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Ifldes Sopplemeni to the Notes and Qaeties, with No. 55, Jan. 16, 1875. 


iMeliittm of Sntercommuni cation 



" When foond, mate a Doti&t>t-*t^-<?AFrAnr Cuttlk. 

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July — December 1874. 




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COHTBNTS.— N» 27, 

!!70TE8 :^^SfrWftlter Scott » 1— Shftkjsi(e*riftn4» 2— PoUt-Lort, 8 
_i>hiirtPl-" Uving On*'! Ufa over A««ln "— Saeczlii^, 4— 
•fhr iL<shm»Ji— •*Exami««it"— Old Fttnciml Cn*- 

tf,, , WD—** Bonnte DuDdec," 5— Curioiu Xniwoa- 

|<iUKRIl»:— •* lioAl* bcftforhif eoiry"— "Ublogihell/' 7— 

■ **^n «!..., -^-FaJrnieL. tUe Ajiiit— Tlie ** OirmBgiioIo "— 

Ht^ 1 1 vw Badite— James Pajriani — Matciuj- 

** D«cK«r-6ikv)»p "—A '* W&ter'bUut^*' £r. 

BBPLMS: — TUe Wonifworthi, d — Da QalBcoy: Goii|ch'« 

F»;*, lO-Anloirfmph ot Bufoa : **To Termughtr on HiJ 

Btrtlt-Daf/ 11— The Jowa in KoglAsd— UAOglii^ &Dd Uo«iu- 

1 '-TAriniA Fentoa. DuchttU of Bolton— P»toriul 

xtijQ aad KngU^h <4iianUty— Heraldic— '*Th" 

;./' A:c—" There 'b tomewhat," &c., JS— Mr*. 

sl.iik. ii.^ire Uoncottijuiee— Dr. WlUlam 

marriflbge," &C.— Popular V<!f»ei 

rl«ya oa " Play '—KoUi' Lore of 

'• M&rkey " — Younga "Night 

-•D«ide« — SeLzini; Ck)rpw» for 

way ■— Buda— CowTwiT : Trooper 

....,._ i . jwU»— Swam, 16— Claaiical Sign- 

tioaitU • iianiuii ul VViriii«<*y— " How they brou<{bt,'' ^c. 
— TUc SMnllowfr ^ Sbotten Herring — Thomaa Ffyo — 
"Uloody* — T»- xvut-ri-,., RMd Peninsular Medals — 8t. 
CkUi«ria« of .^ V> ell, Wisat Feltiju— dUrna 

aaaPoeWir— i ie*Uo}ent.lS-"ilcguiAld 

Tnrot* • Tall;. ^. : Atilgate : B*dcllffe Family, 




Mr. Glftdstone, Ln a lecture on S^ott delivered 

I at the Ha warden Literary Institution in February, 

^1>^68, ?aid that we did not in theae days appreciate 

t writer as w© ought, and thiit newer 

- ibhioQi* had for ii whde (hut only for n, 

.whdi:) obaaired hii< splendid fame. Mr. Glad- 

letone confessed himself a devoted admirer of 

I Bcott, whom on another ocaision ho termed " the 

^fimt nmong the Bons of Scotland," and I dare 

Ray he ejioke th« above words more in sorrow 

I than in anger. ^ly reason for alluding to them 

i. ♦»..! T „;.i. i.^ point out that a recent 

r to prove that Mr, Gkid- 

■ uiflniiil-. Ik,irt1f. :,i-k,| that 


, _ dood, 

ions with redoubled my." A 

Aitken» kui just contributed a 

' Golden Tre;ii>ury tSerieBj"* 

and tki8 bnok purports 

of the choicest lyricji of 

mi (H^rafHitent to form an 

ule with much good 

I id tlie volume quite 

Ul ine pt..)iit-c «►! iiH utle page in giving \i< 

i chousett lyrical iio^lrv of tScotlnndj with, how- 

ever, one notable exception. One name is con- 
Bpicuously absent, and that name is— Sir Walter 
Scott'B ! I do not mean that Soott is absolutely 
and literally unrepresented j but, on turning to 
the index, what was my surprise to find that 
amongst the two hundred and ten pieces which 
make up the volume, there was only a aingle one 
by Scott, ** Jock of Hazeldean " ! I at first 
thought that perhaps Missi Aitken did not con- 
sider that Soott, although a Scottishman, wrot« 
distinctively Scotch poetry ; but this cannot be 
her reason for almost entirely rejecting him from 
her anthology. There tire at least three pieces in 
the book which, although written by Scotchmen, 
are cjuite as much English as Scotch —Allan Gun- 
ningbim'a " A wet sheet and a flowing sea," Hogg^s 
" Skylark/^ and Locan's " Ode to the Cuckoo/^ 
Indeed, the first of these, so far fiom being Scot- 
tish, h,is a particularly English flavour about it. 
Now it would be easy to name six or eight of 
Scott's lyrics which we might well expect to find 
in a collection like Miss Aitken's — " Kosabelle,** 
"County Guy," **Soldierj rest, thy wtufare o'er,*' 
" O, Brignall banks are wdd and fair," " March, 
march, Ettrick and Teviotdale," and the ** Red 
field of HarLiw/* in the Ajitiquaryi those glorioua 
verses which, as Sir Philip Sidney said of '* Chevy 
Chase,*' stir the heart like the sound of a trumpet. 
Some of the above lyrics, taking lyrical poetry in 
its most restricted sense, tm meaning simply a Bong, 
have perhaps never been surpassed, except by 
Shakspeare, Bums;, and perkaps Tennyson in his 
Pfineeis. Miss Aitken, however, goes still further, 
and says (page 6) that Allan Bamsay is the second 
of Scotland's poet*, Burns of course being the first. 
Truly Mr. Gladstone knew what he was saying ; 
a generation has arisen which knows not Scott. 
Alas for Scotland, when an accomplished Scottish 
hwly presents her countrymen with a volume of 
Scottish lyrics, and yet considers, I presume justly, 
that Scott is so little to their taste that she need 
only include a aingle specimen of hia verse in her 
book ! 

It is not too much to say that Scotland owes 
more than half her fame to Soott, who i^'as 
tlio first to unfold the glories of her history 
and the beauties of her scenery before the eyes, 
not only of Britain, but of the whole ciriliewl 
world. Yet how little, compiuiitively speaking, 
does slie appreciate him ; how coldly does she 
repay ** the debt luunenso of endless gratitude ** 
which she owes him ; and what a half-hearted 
affair w^aa the Scott centenary fete in 1&71 ! 
But, iis Mr. Gladstone said, "If we do not now 
appreciate Soott as we ought, it is our misfortune, 
not his. The fashion of the moment may prefer 
the neweat to the best ; but as the calm order of 
nature is resumed after a storm, so the pennanent 
judgment of mankind will regain its equilibrium, 
and will reader the honours of poetical and literary 


16* a 11 JLLtl, T4. 

achievement where they are due/* These worrls, 
eouiing from bo accomplished a scholar as Mr, 
Gladstone^ are indeed comforting to all true 
lovers of Scott, 

I do not know if any of your readers have ever 
noticed that Mrs, Browning, in her splendid 
Visiuii of Fods^ in whieh she marahals the noble 
array of laurelled hards and causes them to pass 
before our eyes, each one introduced by a few 
lines of appropriate and happy description, findE* 
no place for Scott, nor does she make the smallest 
allusion to him. 

Notwithatandingy however, the prevailing dis- 
loyalty t<J the illuatrious Scottishman, I am sure 
there is a till a remnant left in the land who have 
not bowed the knee to the false deity of Kensation- 
aliam, nnd whose feelings towards Walter Scott 
may best be expressed in the words of Tennyson's 
artist- 1 over, ^* My first, !ajst love ; the idol of my 
youth ; the darling of my manhood.'' Perhaps I 
may be allowed to finish the quotiition, and, re- 
membering the wonder and delight with which 
some of U8 !ir«t read Scott's poems and romances 
in our sweet hour of primej add, "the most 
blessed memory of mine age," 


['*Amen!^* to Mr. Bouchier's quoted wordi. The 
admirers of Scott, however, need not fear for tLo Rfoat 
object of their admiration. Mrs, Browning omitted 
Scott from her Virwn of PotU. So Addi&on left SfatLk- 
speare ttnnamed in his Account of tht Qrtatat Engliih 
Potlt {addre«ed to SacherereH). ^o much the worse for 
Addison^ who also sneered at Chaucer and at Spender ! 
The euccessive cheap cditionji if Fcott^s Novels are so 
many proofs of his undying Ttoiiulartty. The editions of 
his poems for less thau a shining show how thoroughly 
** popular * ho is, in the best sense of that word» Within 
the Wt four or five years new dramas, founded on his 
workSf b^TC been successfully placed upon the sta^e. 
These include The Lady of tht Lak:, Keniluvrtkt /ran- 
koi^ and The Fortunes cj y'itfii. In tho last draxna Mr. 
Fhc'lps proved his line nuality as an actor by his masterly 
performance of King James. For the coming 8€b*ou at 
J>rur/ Lane a play is preparing, which is dmwn from the 
same inexhaustible source, nanielj, The Tatunnan. The 
enthusiasm which the novelty aod brilliancy of tho 
trtfiiaurcB excited when they were first delirered by 
Scott to tho public, —pOFseasions for ever, — has subsided^ 
us II matter of course ; but there is a wider sense now, 
and a prfjfo under popular appreciation of their ines* 
timable ralued 


Shakspkare's Name. — There would have been 
less difficulty in arriving at the derivation of tho 
niiiue of our great poet had it been viewed, not as 
one of an exceptiomil character, but as belonging 
to a diBtinct cIom of sobriquets that have become 
hereditary. Tlie nicknames given to lower-claa^ 
officials some centuries ago, mi3i as *" tipstaffs ^' and 
"elearers of the way/' were all but invariably hits 
at the ojiciaus ana meddliwme cJiatadtr of their 
duties. These duties were discharged mainly by 

the display of the symbol of office which they held 
in their hand. We can readily understand the 
crowd outijiide the sacred ring poking fun ni these 
well-ft'd orticialii through the mefiium of the baton 
which they bore. Various cant fcenua were em- 
ployed, but the ingredient of all was "wag" or 
" ahiike.^ Theee terms came even to be used more 
generdlly. A silly swaggerer became a ** wag- 
fenther-' (Halliwell); a woman with a tmiling 
dress a "wag-tail" (Halliwell) ; while Smith, '' the 
ailver-ton^ed preacher,*' says of a "graceless 
boy " that he will prove a " wag-string," that ia, 
like a bow relaxed* Thus of " shake " also. A 
bully was called n "shake-buckler" (Halliwell% 
and a turnkey a ** shake-lock.'^ Let us see how all 
this atl'ected our nomenclature. Let us take 
"wag" first. "Robert Wafrgeataff" is found in 
the Hundred RoIIf, "Richard Wflge-ttiir* in 
Proc. ;ind Ord* Privy Council, and " Mabill Wag- 
Hpere '* in the Coldin^hum Priory Records (Surteeis 
yoc). ** Wag-horn " still exiatB. It was Captain 
Waghorn who was tried for the wreck of th& 
Royal George in 17&2. So far of the term " wtig/* 
Let us now turn to " shake." " l^imon Shake-lok '* 
occurs in the Pari. Writs, " Henry Shake-hmnce " 
in the Hundred Rolls, ** Hugh Shake-shaft " in 
8t. Ann's Register, Manchester (date 1744)« and 
"William Shuke-^pere '* in Dury St. Edmunds 
Wills {Cam, Soc). Of course I could give oth«' 
in.«tances of all the above, but one I think will 
suffice. You will see that " Wag-spere ■' is but 
synonynioubt with the poet's name. William 
Shakspeare, I ciinnot doubt, was descended from 
some officer of the law, or one who held service 
under some feudal lord ; while his name must be 
viewed as belonging distinctively to the nicknau>e 
class. I will say a word or two at another time 
about tho poet's son ** Hamnct/' who bore a purely 
Christian name, althougb, if I be not mistaken, 
this has not been observed before, 

Charles W. Bardslby. 

" Mars his sword." — - In Abbott's Shakt' 
*/wr<iWart Qrammar^ § 217, we find **" Hu was some- 
times used by mistake for s\ the sign of the pos- 
sessive case, particularly after a proper name/* 
Professor Latham {English G-rammar^ "Pleonasm ** 
in the Syntax of Pronouns), however, takea hu 
in such aises to be the possessive pronoun, and I 
conceive he is right. In German such expressions- 
wid^mi Professor tcinc Fran f " the Professor his wife" 
(dern Profumt being the dative), are commonly 
used, though only in conversation. Again, wo find 
it in Dutch: thus in the Maayden of vondcl, i. 1, 
we have Marnl zijn g^€$i, " Marsilius big ghost,-' — 
Van Moten's note on this being, ** As at the pre- 
sent day, in the language of conversation for 
ghost of Marsilius." Again, in the works of 
Fritz Reuter, written in the Mecklenburg-Schwerin 
dialect, such expressions are to be found in every 

ff" a Ih JoxT 4. 74-1 





e have Frih Bahlmmin^ji sin ?f"?fjif, 
lann lib sausage " — Ut ^ic FntnzoBai- 
iid, j>, :i:^.i ; Hn oik Moder thr i/a/f, ** lii» old 
mother her heikrt " — Id., p. 22() ; fUn Mijllcr £^in 
yridrkh^ '* the iDLller his Fridrich,'^ poMim. 
H^rts tsa will be obierved, the noun which comes 
first iH in the genitive or dative ; it is ditficult to 
«iy which, a» the inflexions are the same. Agivin, 
int; to Quickbom, by Kk^j Groili, written in 
DitLnwirsch dialect, we find such expreasiona 
frequents, us uns Htrr sin ffiw, *'our Lord 
hi» House" — Quickhom^ sey^nih edition, p. 13^; 
Pock dn Fru^ " Froggie his wife ''— M, p. 197. 
In this diAle<;t it h impossible to siiy in what case 
the firet noun is, as there are no intiexions. In 
theie lan^ujigiet, or dialects, it is quite certain that 
$€uif or nUf is the pos^eesive pronoun and nothing 
ol8» ; why then should we hnd a difficulty in a 
dorrwponding usage in our own lan<^age I 

Mr. Abbott, in support of his view, that hu is 
ttB«d in such cases by mistake for ^s^ says, " Afler 
Ibe feiuinine name Guinivere, we have in the later 
text of Layamon, iL 511, *for Owenayfer hu 
l0Te»' " The passage at full length is — 

** Arthur wm in CornwuUe 
Al thane wynter, 
For Gwenayfer hi* love 
Womman hirii leofest."* 

It ij^ms to me possible that " lore " may here 
tfUJid for ** lover," as we have *' mine own tnie 
loTl^ " pwmm in the old ballads, in which case the 
inoanifig of the line will be, ** for the gi\ke of his 
kire Gwenayfer." This, however, I leave to others 
to decide. F. J. \\ 

** Lovt's Labour's Loht " (5**^ S. h 3tJft.) — I may 
fcry Bofely assert that there is but one authority 
for the assertion intputed to Burbage, that this 
^Uy would please t^ueen Elizabeth, viz., a letter 
from 8ir \\ alter Cope to Viscount Cranbome, 
darted 1R<>4, preserved in Lord Salisbury's library 
at Hatfield. SpitniEXu will find it printed (with 
no very commendable accumcy) in the third 
ft of the Koyal Commission of Historical 
ai4cripU| 1872, p» 148. All Burbage "wiyes" 


" ThtT ys no new pUje that the queue hath not aeene, 
hare Retjrved an olde one, Cawled Lovet 
rr, nlijcli for wytC and mirthe he sayea wiU 



LK-LoaE OF THE Tuoay (5*^ S. i. 347.)— I am 

to oifer E. J. C much infomiation in 

^Tfp! first piirt of his query, but may call 

' Kirs . to some superstitions obviously re- 

* 1» the earlier edition it ia '^ and al for ^Venhicuere 

hited to that mentioned by him. In Suffolk, to 
sleep in a room with the whitethorn bloom in it 
during the month of May " will surely be followed 
by some great misfortune." Aod — 
** If you sweep the house wit]i ' ' 1 broom in May, 

Y>c sure to sweep the head *' away/* 

Chow Js -, , . i Lont p. 113. 

Turning to the latter portion of the query, the 
origin of the superstition in question is part of a 
wide and curious subject ; but three points seem to 
deserve special prominence. 

The first is the connexion in the minds of the 
primitive Aryans of the thorn and fire, a connexion 
traceable, as in the case of the rowan, &e., to the 
red colour of the fruit of the tree. Much infor- 
mation as to ancient notions on the subject^ and 
the conceptions in which they originated, will l>e 
found, if your correspondent cares to pursue the 
inquiry, in Kuhn*s treatise, The Decent of Fir^ 
and the Dnnk of th€ Ood» (Berlin, 1859), and in 
Mr. Kellys Curiosities of Indo-Europmn Tradi- 
tion and Folk Loi'€^ an able sketch, not so well 
known ns it deserves. 

The next point is the association of the thorDj 
as well as rowan, &c., with the celebration of the 
festival of the returning Sun, May- day. That 
festival was apparently understood to miirk the 
coming back ot the Fire, through its supposed 
great source, the Sun, aft-er the durk and cold 
winter ; and one h prepared to Hnd the tire trees, 
the thorn and rowan, figuring in the celebration. In 
Westphalia, the herdsman on May-duy ** quickens" 
his heifers, striking them over the haunches and 
loins with a rowan sapling, which has been cut at 
or before sunrise, and praying that, ** as sap comes 
into the birch and beech, and the leaf comes upon 
the oak, so may milk fill the young cow^s udder." 
A kindred practice survives in the county of 
GriUway, where caorthann gads, i.e. withes of the 
rowan, cut before sunrise, and twisted into circlet*, 
are placed on the churn, the chum-dash, and the 
plough. In the same loc^ility it is the furze (which 
is expected to be found in bloom) which is used 
for the Dos-Bmltainc^ or May-bush. In England 
the whitethorn was expected to be in bloom. ** To 
be delivered from witches they hang in their entries 
(among other thint^) hay-thorn, otherwine white- 
thorn, gathered on May-day." (Scott's JJUcovery 
of Witchcraft, in Brand, i. 217. See also i. 22U^) 

Kow, if the thorn was thus asaociated with the 
festival marking the beginning of summer, and its 
blooming connected in the jx^pular mind with 
May-day, it is conceivable that the flowering of 
the tree before May would be looked upon as some- 
thing sti'ange and ominous, and we should have 
some explanation of the superstitious notion men- 
tioned by E. J. C. that such early bloom bodes 
misfortune. It may be noted, in connexion with 
this ide^ that the blooming of an apple-tree after 

th« fruit L. ^lymyigllliygiy^^ 



"A bloom upon the apple when the apples are ripe 
la ft Btira tennination to somebody^ life/' 

( North&mptonahire,) 

An old Baw, though th^ couplet embodying it is 
nmnifestly, in the form her© given* of latS dtde 

Apnrtj however, from what has been said as to 
the possible reference of the whitethorn superstition 
in question, and other? like it, to the ancient 
chnracter of the thorn tU3 a fire tree, and its con- 
sequent connexion with the solar festrvrd of May, 
ther« 18 a numerous and well-knowTi cla^s of jwpula? 
notions which throw light on the matter, namely, 
those which associate the ideaa of the soul and 
death with various irfttV^' objects, butteiHiea, moths, 
lilies, and (white) pigeons and tither birds {Clioice 
HoUf!, pp. 17 and til ; DMin UiiirfrHty Ma^n- 
9ine, Oct. 1873, " Folk-Lore of the Lily" ; and Long 
Ago, IR73, *' Butterflies in Folk-Lore*'). Some 
cjurioua items of folk-lore in connexion with thin 
tree w^ould, I think, be found aunriving in Ireland, 
where it is often found, as a ** monument bush,'* 
marking old places of sepulture, or planted about 
ancient rsiths. Any »uch scmps of old Celtic 
Buperatition, if got from the lipa of the people 
themsetvea, and not from so-called treatises on the 
subject, would, I should think, be worthy of a 
place in ** N. & Q.;^ where Irish folk-lore is not 
particularly well represented at present. 

David Fitzobrald. 


Calomtil»— All the lexico^iphers and cfcymolo- 
gista who mention this word* seem agreed that it 
is deriyed from K-aAcW, beautiful, and /MAas^, 
bkck,t but they are by no means at^ree^l whtj it 
was called so, ^lahn (in. Webster) tells ua it \vm 
"in iklhision to ita properties and colour." Un- 
fortunntely, calomel, inste^ui of being of a bmuH/ul 
blachf is pure irhiU,X so that it would seem as if 
Mahn had never seen c^ilomel! Littre says 
cautiously, " ainsi nomm«, dit-on, parce que le 
chimiste qui le ddcouvrit, vit, dans la preparation, 
S6 cLoDger une belle poudre noire en une poudre 
blanohe."§ But is it the fact that such a change 
takes place ? I expect not, but perhaps some one 
of the readers of " N. & Q." will teU us. 

* S«Ter&l etymologists, u Dlei, Seheler, Bmoheti 
Wedgwood, and Ed. M tiller, omit the word Altogether, 
either, I suppowj, bccuQBe it is& techniciil word, or becdUBe 
they had no sattsfActory explanation to offer. 

f Johnson, in ?i>caking of the dematton^ eajs nothing 
more than " calomelaji, a chymical word." 
I When impure, it is of a jt 11 o wish white, but it ta ncrer 
Lof any colour in the least dejjrce nppronchinji; blaclr. 
I $ When lime water ia added to CAJomel a blackish 
^■powder it thrown down, and the n^Jted btaeJt ipask is 
produced. But hew the change ia the conrerao of that 
noted by Littr6, and the precipitate, so far frr>m being 
of a beautiful black, ia retdlyiather of a dark grey colour 
(mb-oxide of mercury). 




Pereim, in bin Materia Mtdica (ed. 1849, 
p. 847), speaks a little more explicitly. He tel 
us that ** the term calomel . , » . was first U8( 
by Sir Theodore Turquet de Mayenne (who dii 
in 1655), in consequence; a« some aay, of his havi 
had a favourite black servant who prepared it ; orT 
according to other?, because it was a ^ood remedy 
for the hl/ich bile.'' 

But Hooper, in his Medical Dittionary^ 
us what I conceive to be the true solution o 
difficulty. His words are: "This name 
originally applied to the Aethiops mineral or bh 
sulphuret of merrnty ; it was afterwards applied 
by Sir Theodore Mayeme* to the chloride of mej 
cury [calomel], in honour of a favourite ne[ 
servant whom he employed to prepare it.** Mai 
{op, eit) also refers to Atthioptumncral^ ji, it, " G 
rael," but he evidently thinkt^ that they are t 
different names for the same thing, and therein 
is m (Striken. 

We see, therefore, that it was really owing 
a kind of joke or jeii de woNt that the name 
t'a^otn^i=beautiful (or good) hhrJc^ became applii 
to a white powder ; and confusion and error hai 
been the resuU. F. Chakcb. 

Sydenham Hill. 

*^ Living Oj^ie's Lifk ovkh Aoain,**— -The 
following ia from Franklin^ m Life:- — 

"When I retlect, as I frequently do, upon the felici^~ 
I have enjoyed, I enmetiine^ say to nijstlf that, wefl 
the trffer made true, I would engage to i-un again, fro* ' 
bcgiiinln^ to end, the same career of life. All I wou 
ask should be the privilege of an author, to correct, m^ 
second edition, certain errors of the first.'' 

W, A. C. 

S?tKEZfKG, — I tmnslate from the Pali t<;xt 
the Gagga Jaiaka^ publii?hed by Fausboll {T4 
Jatahas, Tnibner, 1872), the following curioua 
reference to a very ancient superstition : — 

"One day, Buddha, while seated in the midst of 
large congregation of difciplcs, to whom he woe prcacl 
ing the Law, chanced to snreEC. Thereupon the pri 
etcliiiming May the Blesied Lord live, may the Wulcoi 
One live, made a loud noise and BcriouBly interrupted 
discourge. Accordingly, Buddha addressed them a# 
follows : Tell me, pHests, when a person sneeaea, if the 
byatanders say, May you lire, will ho live the l^'Wpcr ( 
die the aooner for it I- Certainly not, liord. — Thei 
Briesta, if any one sneexes yon are not to say to hit 
May you live; and if any of you ehall «ay it, let hii 
he guilty of a transgression. From that time fos ' 
when the priests sneezed and the bystandHrs exclaims 
May ynu live, Sins, the priests, fearful of transgressini 
held their peace. People took offence at thii : Whi 
said they, do these priestly sons of Sakya mean by m 

* Perciru. fis we havc secfn, calls thia iianta Mayenn^ 
but '^ \nnB^nCoftt^ftition$'Li^rifim{\Oihed\tioi 

1851 I) find the name given as Mayeme (wilj 

the i.,.M instead of 1655), I preiome thut th 
latter form is the correct one. 

t Sir Thtodorp mu^t bare noticed the eontnuit 
tween the vrhitmas of the powder and the blaeknat < 
his servant 






iflg ft word when wo f»y» May yon live, Sin ? The 
rr camo to Buddh&'s can. PriGft?, he said, the 
laity '^" '> ■ ">mer-«tone of the chore h ; when h&jioen 
my, > e, i^iri, 1 grre my SBBflticm to your reply- 

ing, o you/* 

Fiv*fti tliib it appears tbut, in ancient Hindust^m, 
it Wfi3 customary, when a person sneezed, for the 
hywUoiden to excioiin, ** May you live ! *' (jloa), anti 
etiqtieite required tliat the sneezer ihould reply, 
** Long life to you ! " (chiram jivathji)- The 
JftUka Book, firom whieh this story 19 taken, m 
part of the Buddhist Scriptures, and belongs to a 
period far antecedent to the Christian Era, The 
lapentition with regard to sneezing is a very wide- 
•ptiiii one. It would bo interesting (if it has not 
bfi^Ti Mlr*i!*jlv done) to bring together references to 
it fr eraturesof different countrie?^. For 

iqyiLi _. 1 j^pening to look through Clodd's Child- 
0/ the frorld the other day, I came upon the 
tng pii^aage : — 
*• According to mn old Jewish legend, the cutitom of 
myinsr 'Ood b1e» yoa' when a perflon sneezes datea 
from ' ' The Kabbis «ay that before tbo time that 
J«r n raeeied onc«, and that wa« ilie end of 

th«>ii '::k slew them. Thii law wai sot aside on 

tk« praver **( Jacob, on condition that in all nationt a 
mamtm uiould he hallowed by the word* * God bles» you.' " 

R. 0. CniLDKES. 

Ttne FLYrNG Dutchman,— In the narrative of 
the voyapea of H.M. Khips " Leven " and " Barra- 
conta,'* under Captain W, F, Owen, ILN., in the 
jwr 1823, the following curious story is published : 
** In the evcninK of the 6th of ApHK when off Port 
Danger, the Barracouta wie eeen about two mites to 
]«ew&nl. struck with the sitj polarity of licr Ijuinp so 
Hon after us, we at tint concluded that it cjuld not be 
Imt ; but the peculiarity of her rigging, and other ctr- 
anDAtances, convinced ue that we were not so mistaken. 
Ifay, to diftinctly waa ihe Hccn, that many well-knoTm 
Am could be ob«er?cd on deck, looking towards our 
ihi^^ Aflef keeping thus for some time, we became 
CBf^find that the nuule no effort Uy join us ; but, on the 
eoQtfmry* ttood away. Bot being so near the port to 
wbfeh we were both destined, Captain Owen did not 
Mlach much importance to thia proceeding, and we 
•fOordtrjrty continued our course. At sunset it was 
okae- -he hove to, and sent a boat away, appa- 

iini I'urpiDwe of picking up a man overboard. 

Jlttri: a . — i'ji^Ut we could not perceive any light or 
OliMrmdieation of her tocaHty. The neitt morning we 
n^orod in Simon's Bay, where, for a whole week, we 
w«w lu ftnxious expectation of licr arrival ; but it alter- 
wifds appeared that at this very period the rsiirraoouta 
mttnt TiftTf biren aboTC three hundrea miles from ug, and no 
oUi^ ^^e same clan was ever seen a bout the Cape*" 

' of the narrative disclaims any in- 
t4i excite the supernatural feelings of his 
Arr^ptin^ the story a« true {and it is 
t f -tible weight of authority), 

, out of all the Fhipa sailinp^ 
lie one which the law of refraction 
tnjtired np in view of the ** Leven '* 
:.r snip^ own consoit in n deadly and perilous 
F. w! Chessox. 

" Excumgent/' — I have not heard this North- 
unibrianism lately. I fancy it h rather slang than 
a provincial iam. It is applied to a person or 
thing " got up " more emartly than usual^ *' Where 
are you going, you are quite exctinigent/ " — ** How 
do you likemynewbonnct ?"— "Oh, it is quite cx- 
cumgent." Extra gent(eel) is, I presutnc, the 
etyniologj% It is among servants I have heard it 
used. P. P. 

Old FtTNERAL Customs int Cape Toww. — By 
an old colonial Dutch law, now almost forgotten, 
when a man died in debt^ leaving a widow and 
family, the hearse was brought before the door in 
the presence of a largo concourse of friends and 
neighbour, the widow came forth, locked the door, 
and placed the key on the coffin, thus being ro- 
lexised from her husband's debts. The la^t record 
of this ceremony being performed is as fitr back as 
1823. It was formerly the practice, when any re- 
spectable person was interred^ to have white sand 
strewn in the street from the house door to tho 
grave. This ban of late years, in Gape Town at 
least, been discontinued^ but may still exist in tho 
more remote Dutch villagea. At Dutch funerals, 
in olden days, two respectably dresaed men (ti-op- 
schlutera), got up in cocked hats and black fttlk 
stockings, were generally engaged to form tho In&t 
couple of mourners in the funeral procession. The 
popular opinion was that the h\8tr couple took all 
the ill luck supposed to wait on the last conple 
into and out of the churchyard, no friend liking 
to figure last at a funeral Formerly no regpectablo 
family buried their de^d until after dark, when 
each mourner was attended by his sUive carrying a 
lighted lantern. The appeamncje of such a procession 
wjis very strange to meet in the narrow, and then 
unlighte<i, streets of ( Vipe Town. Hiitcbment* of 
the iirnifl of the principal deceased otticials of tho 
old Dutch Government were formerly suspended 
in the " Oudo Keerk '■ on the Heercngnicht, and 
presented some very curious and interesting speci- 
mens of old Batavian heraldry. They are now, 
however, nearly all removed, and lie rotting in n 
himber room in the vicinity of the church, in com-- 
pany, it is said, with a few valuable pictureH of 
the Dutch school, long lost to the public eye, 
Tliese and many other primitive Dntch customs 
are gradually disappearing, and tho modes and 
habits of English domestic life have almost snper- 
Beded the quaint and homely manners which pre- 
vailed in the City of Van Riebeck to a period at 
late as the first three decades of the present cen- 
tury. I am indebted to an old friend and tjuondam 
correspondent of *' N. & Q.^' for some of the id>ove 
interesting notes. H. Mall. 

Lavender Bill. 

**BovNiE Duypitp:," — From a small volume 
which professes to teach boy»* tlie history of Hcot^ 



P^-S.!!. JuLr4,*7i; 

the death of Lord Dimdc^c, written in a »tjle 
ueiirly as stilted as that of the mendndous his- 
torian Wodrow : — 

** CljVTcrliouflc ncvpT knew that ho had won a Tictory. 
He fell at the beginning of the action pierced i>y a mns* 
l(Ct ball, wkich entered beneath his nrm. When one in 
ii pack of hungry wolrea i? killedi the rest turn upon 
bim and eat hirn np, ClaTerhoufle'e own men. true to 
their savage instinct of plunder, stripped hi§ body, and 
left it naked ULpon the field, where it was with difficulty 
distinguiihed from the other bodies of the fallen." 

Lord Bundet^, created a viseount in the secoud 
year of JaDies II., did not die on the field of 
Killiecninkie. He was mortally wounded, but 
not in the beginninjx of the action, and w(ls carried 
to the house of Old Bhm*, at that time the inn, 
where J (juite aware of the success of his manter's 
troopsj he sank the next mornings and waa buried — 

** For a gable shroud 

8bcathod in bis iron panoply/* 

in a vault in the old church of Blair. Had tbe 

Hij^hJiinders^ likened by the reverend historian 

to Eun^r}^ wolves, " true to their mvage nature/' 

wished to treat w^ith such l>rat*d indignity the 

pbodj of their ve Derated " Black John of the 

f Battles/* would they have put olf time in doing so, 

I "when they had Huch a tlock of runaway sheep 

I (without a .Hhephertl) as iVIackay-a array to fall 

f ttpon 'i 

My friend Mr* Robertson » of Old Blair, has 
"kindly furnished me with the following curious 
tradition : — 

'•My information regardinjjf the circuniBlances of 
ClRTerhousie^H! death, was derived from an old man who 
died at Aldclune last winter, about the age of 70. 

*^ His etory waa tliat be bad t>een told by an old troman 
who lived at Aldolune, and was, I tbimk, his grand auiit> 
that her father, who waa a boy nt the time of the battle 
©f Killiccrankie, lay concealed on the hill above Urrard 
niinrory) during the engagement, and that he foil" wed 
Ihe party vfho carried Claverhouse to the inn at Old 
Blair, and that ChLverhou^e died in the inn the following 

A. A. 

CcuiousTreasoxadle Lktter* — The man who 
• wrote the following letter had been Ioujt suspected 
€»f giving treasonable information Uy the enemy ; 
^»nd Government set a spy over him, by whos^ 
exertions they procured the letter directed to a 
hou&e at Paris. At first they imagined they had 
bit on the wront; person, when a few dny^ after- 
wards a second letter, directed by the ajime hand, 
to the same person, containing only the fij^U'es, as 
^ ander it, was hrou^^ht by the infonnaut to Govern- 
inent ; when, after a little considtation, they dis- 
covered it was a key to the tin^t letter, and accord- 
ingly hud the writer in close confinement till, at 
the earnest intercession of liis friends, he was 
suilered to leave this country, under a promise of 
not returning during the war : — 

*' London, April 6, 179S. 
Dear Friend,— As I findtJiert Man opportunity, 1 write 
to say how wc mt ; my daughter Mary, who vraa fere^i' 


t^en last week« has an ofiTer ; the man ia a mil niakert 
honest and industrious ; he is very sober, iind o/re 
iible family; a;* to the trade we do not object, 
workmen in that lint are sure of employment. My \ 
has been almost r^d^ to go distracted with pain iU 1 
gtomach ; after fluffering for aome days* *he $oit up 
sharp matter, which greatly relieved her hmd ; i\ 
became again afflicted, and /tow long her illness r 
continue. Heaven knows. Any commatuU you may hi 
to execute will be carefully attended to by. 

YouTB truty* 
4 1 8 S 5 9 

7 2 7 6 5 10 

3 3 7 7 3 11 

3 4 4 8 3 12." 

3 $ 
This curioua document, together with the pi 
ceding particulars regarding the detection of the 
-writer, appears in the Eurcfpmn Magazine, 181-" 
vol- IxTi, pp. 21, 22. The first column of figm 
indicates tue word«j and the second column t\ 
lineii in the original letter. The words convey tl 
the treasonable infomirition are printed in itali 
though of CfRirse in the original no words W( 
underlined, or otherwise marked, the list of fi|^ 
which followed the letter admirably serving 
purpose. It will be observed that the infoniuiti 
conveyed to the enemy in this letter was ** Tb 
uit! seVenteen sjiil of the line ready at SpiLhes 
Howe oomniaads." W, A. C. 


Parallel Passaoes. — 

" Drydcn says prettily of Ben Jonson's many imitath 
of tlie ancietitrt, you track bini everywhere in their SKO^ 
. . . . Menage adds, that ho intended to compile a regu- 
lar treatise on the thefts aiid inutations ot the poets. 
As hii^ reading waa very cx^teusive, his work would, prob- 
ably, liaTe been rery entertaining.'' — Warton's Euay oh. 
the Otniut and Wriiin^i of Popf, P* 80, 

"Let us see bow far we are got in this inquiry, 
may say of the old Latin poets, that they all came oat (j 
the Greek echooh. It is an true of the roodcrni* in tn 
part of the world that thev* in generiil^ have had thd 
breeding in both the Greek and Latin. But when t*" 
queatioo Is of ihny particular writer, how far and iu wti 
instances, you may presume on bis being a profess 
imitator, much will depend on the certain knowle^ 
you have of his Age, Education, and Character, Wiii^ 
all these circumstances meet in one man, as they h»^ 
dotie in others, but in none perhaps so eminently as in 
Ben Jfonson, wherever you Imd an acknowledged like- 
ness, vou will do him no injustice to call il imitation,**- 
Bp- liurd, On Poftu^ai Imitation, (Critical Works^ ii.).J 

**You track him everyAvhere in their aoofl 
Were these words of Dryden'a an original though 
or did he recoUect " leporem venator," &e., 
Horace, Sat. 2, lib. i. ? Who hiii< been supposed ( 
have translated toHdein vcrbH an epigram of Call 
machua, a translation of which is subjoined frrj 
Dr, WellesleTr^s Antholagia PoUjtjhtta, cxni 
thi'? question, see Fabricii Ojmscula Lit^rar 
p. 29 ; Tnnafjuilli Fabrl Epiatolcf, p. 229 ; J, 
Scaligeri Opv^cula^ p. 464 ; UomC I}€lpMnif\ 


«» 8. II. JuLT 4, 74. 


"The CiiACt'. 
llft^rk; Bpicyde«, Low the hunter beard 

■TA in the cbucc» when timid hares 

itn^ he tracks throu}:;h fro^t and tUQW, 
ttiti» cchotniK to the valea below. 
L if !■ it»e clown balKos i ' Here, master, here 
•otmg &t TOUT feet the fitiickcn deer/ 
llec »a becd, hut stirts for newer game, 
^eh ii mj love, and puch hi« arrow's ifcitn, 
lTh»t fellow* etill with Bjo^d the flying Mr, 
* But deems the yielding slave below his care." 


[We miut requett correepondeniB dcairiag inf formation 
on family miitt«rt of only private interest, to affix their 
naaiet ind addreesei to their queriefl, in order that the 
smwen may he addressed to them direct.] 

** BuitT HEBE FOR 1113 En VY.'' — Ou » fomier oc- 
aision the correapondf nU of " N. & Q" gave me 
efitet^nt help towards the interprelAtion aad elncida- 
tioD of **the Grim Feature" in the Ninth Book of 
Parmlisf Lost, I now submit to them a difticulty in 
the Fir«it Book, unnoticed by Todd* At U. 258- 
26^Ly of first edition, we read — 

'' Here at leist 
W« ahall b« ffoe ; tV Almighty hath not built 
Here for bis envy, will not dri?e aa hence :'* 

lithe reference he to the Imppy nmnsioa built by 
iJxe Almij^hty in Heaven, which mi^'ht well be 
aAld to hftve been built for the env^ of tho.-ie who 
were excluded from it, one would expect the la>it 
line to tun ** Here for our envy/' &c.; as it h, the 
envy Li jittributed lo the piirty in possesaion, and 
not to the party ejected or excluded. 

An act-omplishcd friend suggested to nie that, in 
the ftbovo passage, built k a subfltantive; having 
the mn9e of o-kckto?, i «., ft mark or target. 
Obviously, if built had such it sense, ha use here 
would he most appropriate. But, unfortunat-ely, 
1 cannot find that the substantive built had any 
oth^r meaning than builds which meant, and 
iiD«, form or figure. My friend referred me 

^iJryden's Annua MirabilU for an instance, but 
I piu^Sij^c proves nothing to the point ; — 

** And u the hvilt, bq different is the fight ; 
Their monntitig ihot is on our sails deiigned." 

Ortalnljt if biUH he used hero for mark or object, 
tilt M^nne is perfect ; but it ia so likewise if built 
taeikn* (bo build of the ship of war from which the 
•b' 'd. Anotlier instance which he gave 

lilt 1 1 pie, ** timber proper for this built/' 

il ftt_Ui uiLHij doubtful Having collated a good 
nmojr •diijons of Fatadiu Lost (including the first 
and acocmd), I have not found a single variAtton 
in the paasngc in question ; but an examination 
of iruioot versions of the work bas repaid the 
nmuh. In WilliJim Hog's Farnphrusis Fodiea, 

*' nulloque prcinuntur, 
Colla jvigo, nuUam omnipotens livortg uccrbi 
Materiatn hie ridet, hinc ideo nunquam ille ref>ellet 
Agmina nostra/' &c. 

Kow here, beyond «loubt, we have the very sensft 
suggested by my friend. There can be no dotibt 
that materinm here means occasion or grouncK It 
is so used in Suetonius, who, in bis Lift of 
Galbn^ conveys by that word iht occasiim of 
yero's jmlomy. I need not stay to in^ifit on the 
value of Hogg's translation as a contenipomry evi- 
dence of Milton's meaning. In 174<», Fatadiu 
Lod was *' Attempted in Rbime ^- ; and the author 
of that absurd attempt thus renders our passage : — 

"here at least 
We fiholl he free ; for here the Victor Prince, 
Built not for Envy, will not drive us hence/* 

80 he took Milton's hDili for the j^ist participle <yf 
huihh In 1745, a still more absurd version wai 
puhlished, viz,, an English tranHhition of Ray- 
mond lie St. Maur's French version of Fatadim 
Lost, The re-tmnslator, **A Gentleman of Oxford," 
thus turns our psissage : — 

'* At leant here we ah all ho free, the Thunderer Uttli 
not built this Place for bia Envy, he will not drive ui 
out from hence, * ^c. 

m be tuok built in the same sense ; but he does 
not remove the ditticulty of the phmse ** for hi» 
Envy/' which his predecessor effecteil by omitting 
the pofgsessive pronoun* We have, then, sncee©de«i 
thus far only ; we have proved that, in ^lilton'st 
day, built was understood as a substantive, meaning 
occiision cr ground of the Almighty's envy ; but 
we have not been able to pmve that huih wa« usecl 
(unless by Milton himself) in that sense. I shftll 
bo greatly obliged to any reader of this note who 
shafi be able and willing to furnish me with 
evidence of such use. Jabbsl 

Athenaeum Club, 

** Ublooahbll,*' — ^Woiild some of your Iriak 
readers state the meaning and true ?jpeUing of thU 
word, which occurs in Camden^s Eemaimsf ft 
seems probable that it is some strange attempt at 
giving, in Engli.Hh language and letters, the 
phonetic spelling of some Irish word, or words, in 
use at the time when Camden wrote. Just as in 
the State Papers of the time of Henry VIIL we 
find a word written ** Allyicgs^" and ** oylcgcags/' 
for an Irish exaction, explained as a fee said to 
Live been paid by each litigant party, both 
plaintiff and defendant, to the Brehon appointed 
by the Irish Chiefs, or by the Anglo-Irish Lords 
who had adopts Irish customs, for his judgment, 
the purport and etymology of which is to b« 
founa, aa we are told, in the Irish words iHUgh, a 
Brehon or Judge, and tag^ payment. 

The word printed " Allyiegs,** at p. 558, vol, iL, 
of the St^ite I*:ipers, in a letter written by Cinnond 
to Sir Anthnny Sentlcger, the Lord-Deputy, dmU^i 



[SI*H,lLJuLT ,*71 

jiiund and Oas. auioDg ^' like exaccions and extor- 
tions/' would apiieiu- to be the same as that spelt 
** Oylegeaga/' which wc find in a note by the 
editors of the brief substance of the several pre- 
aentments made by the juries for each of the 
counties in the South, except Tippera-ry, in 1537, 
where we are told that according to the Wuterford 
present men ta, " the Brehon who wil? ordained/' or 
appointed by the Lady Katharine Poer, took for 
hiB judgment, called " Oyle^^eiig," I6d, of every 
mark sterling, both of the pkintiH' and defendant. 
But inatead of the words oihghy or Brehon, and 
eajjf, payment, which would seem to liave boea 
coined for the occasion, 1 would venture to aub- 
stituto oUmtOir, or oUave^ a judge, a man of educa- 
tion ; and easg, or nu(feacht^ as the Irish for hire, 
or wiiges, the former words not occurring in any 
Irish Qkifldajry with which I am acquainted ; whde 
we find a clue in O'Donovan's Supplement to the 
late Edward O'Reilly's IHctionaiij, in which Dul- 
cmiui is explained by tuaji saetair (for which he 
gives as his authority *' an oM gloas^wy "), which I 
t!ike to import the «aiue, or nearly so, as tuack 
koMi^ the price or reward of welfare, and »actar^ or 
in more modern Irish, saotar^ which imports work, 
labour, or dmdgery, *' Ublogahell '' would ^eem 
to have been used or intended (but I write froiu 
memory, not having Camden's limiahics before 
me at this moment) as a title, a designation of| 
Bome atone of inauguration, or place of meeting of 
the Iriish^ perhaps like Tullahogue, where they 
" mado " the great " Oneyll " in the time of Queen 
Elizabeth, or Kilmacrenan, in the County of 
Donegal. J. Huband Smith. 

lUtjoX Iriih Academjj DahUn. 

"No WTTEK."— A few evenings ago, I asked a 
small ho3^ of mine, of three yeans and four months, 
if he had been " crying," a», in the morning, be htid 
been in disgrace. Hia reply at once was, **I 
Liven'fc cried again to day no wlitaJ* As "no 
how" and "no where*' are correct, why not 
'* 4WJ wlieriy" and if so, has it ever been in use, or 
is this infant to be credited with a new wortJ, 
though in perfect ignorance of everything but 
baby language ? K, 

Falconet, the Artist, — Perhaps some reader 
of " N. & Q,** may be able to give some account of 
Falconet, the artist, who resided in or near London 
towards the close of the lust centur}^ Are there 
any paintings by hiui known to bo in e.xistence, 
and if so, where are thej' to V^e »een I 1 po^iie*!* 
two engravings, by different bands, after a portrait 
pftiDted by him in 1768, but have never met with 
any of hi^ works. KtRjJV Trimmer, 

The Close, Norwich. 

Thk ** Carmaonole."— A few yeai« ago, I asked 
in ** N. & i)" if any one could tell me where I 
could find the music of the Cantiaffnok, that song 

and dance so famous in the French Resolution. 
I inquired also for the music of the €a ira. The 
latter I received from your late respected contrL- 
but<jr F. C. H,, but I have never yet succeeded| 
getting the Cfi-nn4igiiol&, I have the words, , 
least some of them, because I beheve it wins wl 
is called in these days a "topical" son^j, and ven 
were added from time to time to suit the eveil 
of the day. Can any new contributor help me i 
find the music I Dickens, in his Tah of Two Ciiii 
has a moBt graphic and, 1 should think, accurate 
descri])tion of the Carmagnole dance : who was lus 
authority for the description ? 

Jonathan Bouchier,. 

** The Pilorim*8 Prooress.** — In the ( 
of June 17, there occurs the following, 
of the Rev. W. J. Stracey, of Buxt^jn, Norfolk 3 

" In a letter I have by mo, dated Jno. 26, 1S66, I > 

told by the writer that *Mj«8 C haa publiihed a 

tranglatioD^ for prirato circalation, from a French MS. 
copy in the British Muacum Libmry, of Thg Pilgrima^ 
of the So^f^lc, by GuillauntQ do Ouiifcviilot a Churchmafi, 
who tiouri«hed in tlio fifteeath century. The original 
work was txtuitlated in Kn island seventy years before the 
Keformiationp and waa printed by Caxtrjn iu 1483. Misa 
C — —'a object in pablinhmg her trandatioa i« to ibow 
that Bun van 'fi PilffrimU Frogreu U nearly verbatim a 
copy of this rare work« with a few alterations here i 


there to giTo it the tinge of orii^inality/ '* 

Is anything known of this book ? Is the ah 
a correct account ? E. L. BLEKKrKSorp. 

[See a letter from Mr. Stracey in this week'a Guardian,] 

Rev. Samtjel Hardy. — He waa Rector of 
Little Blakeaham, in SutTolk, and Lecturer of En- 
tield, in Middlesex. He is the author of a learned 
work on the Scripture jiocotict of the nature and 
ends of the Holy Euehiiriat (17B4}. I should be 
glad to have any further information respecting 
him, and to know whether the puVdication ot his 
Ixkok attracted much notice, or Ciilled forth any 
reply. In the Dedication to ibe Archbishopsi, 
Bishops, and Clergy of the Church of England, he 
speaks of having compoaed it amid circumstances 
of trouble and affliction, owing to bodily ailme ttt# 
and distres.s of mind on account of the barba 
murder of his sou. E. H. 

" NKWtTK/'— Wiere can I obtain informatj 
as to the derivation or meaning of this surnaa 
There is a novel entitled Ncidifi^ Jloma^ 
A. E. W., and published by Simpkin, Jfclar ' 
& Co* *Ayv6j^ia 

Bn[>KLL OF London. — Can any of your read 
supply memoranda relating to the Be<iell faj 
of Lomion ? The pedigree is recorded in 
I'tsitntifm of LomloHy liSlVA-A, William Be 
with whom this pedigree 
tiutxny Thonuis Bedell of A 
who msirried the daughter i>t ijuriiinu ix;u»L-j 
Thurleigh, and Matliew Bedell of Kemp 




B^dfordshLre^ who, by Helen Morgan of Torvey, 
li&il a eou, Mathew Bedell of Loudon, Tlus 
Mat hew mjuried two wives ; by the first, Margaret, 
• ciiiughter of — Lawrence, imd widow of — Weatby, 
he hml a son, Mathew, and two daughters , Pru- 
dence, wife of Thomas Thorold of London, and 
Anne, wife of Thomas Mustard of London. By hi^ 
second wife, Anne Boothby of London, ho bad a 
floo, Thomas, and three daugbtenj, viz., Elizti, wife 
to Herbert AwLrey, son and heir of Sir Samuid 
Awbrey ; M&ry,'^ wife to Ralph Hawtrey ; and 
IhfAitha, wife to Eichard TaYemer, son imd heir 
of Fiuncia Taverner, of HextoBj co, Aliddlesex, 

J. J. Howjuid, 
Dftiimouih How, Blnckhcath. 

SiLvnt Badge* — I have before me a silrer 
badge, of which the following la a description : — 
i * -lA circular garter or scroll surroundM an heraldic 
tideld. On the one side this escutchet)n l^ears 
anwi blaiioned thus:^Or, on a bend gules^ three 
mijiL.t. r.,.%nt^ Tp^th the badge of Ulster (for a 
b:i3 1*? on the garter are engraved these 

yfvi'-,- , :...-iiipfylde and Independence." On the 
ferene side the ahield is occupied by two right 
haixdB chispedf under a sun in gioij, with thi^ 
title, ** True Blue Union/' and the garter surround- 
ing be&T9 this motto, ** Not interest but inclina- 
tioiu^ The badge has had a loop for suspension, 
is one and a half inches in diameter^ and is, 
Apparently, of eighteenth - century worL For 
what j»olitical event or purpose was it designed i 


James Patzakt.— James Payzant, a French 
rpfugee, descendant from the Bouen family of 
PayiAnt de Boiisgudlebert, after senring for 
•eventy years in the Foreign Office, died July 23, 
ITa", aged one hundred years* Is anything 
known of his family and de^cendiints, and does 
may proof exist of kis longevity I 

Frkdkric Lajifkxt. 


MkBCURY-WaTBR.— What was it ?— 
*'Soni« IhioTee hare cat off their irom, and fretted off 
ihtkt feitcr», with jnerettry-maUr** kc, — Fuller, Jai€ph'i 
i^ifiViifmn d Coat (H^iO), p. l^ (od. ISdT). 

F. H. 

'—What is the meaning otpan in Panllcld 

ffeld, two enclosures formerly be- 

' nuns of Wykea, in Essex? {Motu 

,\ .J17J. I luive met with the word Pan- 

I as a load name in scvenil phices in 

i^uc iiLUihire. K. P. D. E, 

"Goo AND THE KiNo/'— What is the book so 
iaiilitkd to which allnaion is made in Vbitation 

Articles of the seventeenth century 1 " Whether 
doth your minister teach the book intituled God 
atid the King according to His Majesty's pro* 
clamationr' E, H, A. 

ZiNZAN Strbbt,— There is a street of this name 
in Reading. Can any probable origin be assigned 
to the word? C. A Ward. 


** Bagger-chrap.^ — 

" Wfl set oar wares at a Tary easy price, he [the dcvU] 
may buy us even dagger-cheap, as we suy"— 6p. An- 
drifwct, Sermon VI,, Upon the Temptation qf Christ. 

"Dagger-cheap" evidently means tie same m 
dirt-cheap, but why ? T, Lewis 0, DAVUta, 

Pear Tree Vicarage, Southamptoo. 

A ** Water-blast."— What is a " water-blast *' ? 
I was asking a few days ago concerning the ailment 
of a wuter-cress gatherer who had his hand tied up, 
and he told me that he was sutfering from a 
*' water-bhist.'* I know what a ** bone-blast " is, 
but a *^ water-blast" puzsks mo. 

Tho8» Batclcff e. 


(5"* S. i. 143.) 
The note of your distinguished correspondent, 
the Rev, Robert Collykr, induces mc to send 
the foOowing, which has long lain in quiet amongst 
other north-coimtry scraps. The colloquial, familiar^ 
and parenthetical style of Wordsworth's poem, 
Tlu Excunion, has furnished abundant food for 
humorists and parodists. The Smiths had their 
fling — at leitat, Horace had, a wit that a satirist of 
the day described as one— 

" " who§e throat 

Coald ape ill tuaeSr without one native note." 

Hogg, in his Poetic Mirror, has extracts from an 
*' unpublished canto of The Excurtion" Many 
others might be named. A good deal of this 
waggery was, perhaps, owing to Byron*i? ill-natured 
remarks in his Don Jitan^ where he speaks of— 
" A clumiy, frowij poem c Ailed I^ J^jnturpi^a, 
Writ in a manner that is my av«rrioii." 

The following burlesque, by some anonymoUB 
scribe, appeared in thv CJmfkt of ihncord, a 
prirulely printed periodical— never publislied — 
got up by some young people in Kewcastle-on- 
Tyne and Durham about forty years ago, for I 
cannot speak correctly as to the exact date. The 
(*fmithi was never finished ; it stopped when it had 
reached the forty-eighth page of tne first and only 
volume. Its di^olution was caused by some of 
the contributors sending articles on logarithms and 
rnalhematicid problems, which were not reiiidied 
by the literar^^ and poetical sobscribeis. 



[5'^ S. a Jptt 4. 7 

(Jhapkt as far q& it went. I have only twelve pages, 
a few of which have the story or episode of Pdcr 
HiompfiOii, iV by no meuns bad imitation of WoHsj- 
worth :— 

" PiiTBE Tbompsox. 
*' From an unptibluhed ennto of TAi ExcttrtiiMi. 
"The Solitary drew hia ruiilc chair 
Bc.iido the Stratiger, whom be thus addresied : 
' 8trang«r ! If e'or thou wert in Amblcftde* 
Thuu must hare nmrked a well-known Huitclrie 
Called the " Blitck Lion," k€|it by Peter Thompson. 
The s€ir«»me inn where a <iran)atic troop 
f A utroIUng THj^ant band from Cockemiouth) 
Performed Wat T^ltr many years iigo; 
At which time it wm kept by laaoc Lewthwaite, 
Father of Barbam who had tlie petlamb. 
And C0U91Q of the Ancient MarincTt 
Whoso tomb is seen in Gra$mere's burial -ground. 
With a rude rhyme about '* afflictions aore," 
And how " Physician'* skill " was " all in vain." 

The sire of Peter Thompson dwelt at Bristol, 

(An ancient city in the We^t of England) 

And was by trade a barber and a blackimith. 

Early in life he married Alice Fell, 

(The Uaujj;liter of a stroirm^ manaf^er) 

By whom be had a numerous family, 

All of whom died when young, excepting Peter, 

And a fair ftister known a^ Tabitha, 

Who tied to Gretna with a corporal, 

And never aft^^rward wai seen at BrsatoL 

This wa4 a lad blow to the old folk^ who 

DeUiihted in the maiden. Mr Thompgon 

Lived but a thort time after ; and his wife 

Biod also— and tbeir property was left 

To their sole heir, the aJore*aid Peter Thompeon. 

He at that period waa bound apprentice 

Unto a cattle- doc tor, Amoa Bell. 

But Peter Tbampson did not like the businesi, 

And now that he was worth three hundred pound, 

Left Amoa Bell and entered as a soldier 

The forty second regiment of foot, 

A highkj.d regiment of great esteem, 

Wlicre in due time he rose to be a sergeant. 

He fought in many a battle ivitb BQCce««j 

And never got a eingle acAr, until 

Upon the fated plains of Waterloo 

He lost hia left leg by a cauDon ball. 

And so wa3 rendered quite unfit for serrke. 

When he retum'd to Etiglaod, he inquired 
At Bristol if Susanna Foy was living ; 
And by her brother Nathan was informed 
She was the chamber-maid at Ambleside ; 
At the Black Lion, that aforegaid inn. 
This Susan Foy was a good virtuous girl. 
With whom the soldier bad *' kept company/' 
To use a bomely phrase our dales' men use. 
She was, besides, of good intelligence 
And unbeclouded iTitellect, unlike 
A fdlly cousin who was somewhat soft, 
Confounding owls with cocks, and night with day. 
The love that glows with an eternal ilame. 
And knowg nut change or mutability. 
Determined Peter Thompson's onward courte. 
So without more ado he took the coach— 
An inside place, for he waa somewhat proud — 
And in due time arrived at Ambleside : 
There went to the Black Lion, where lie saw 
His lovely Susan ; but she knew him not« 
He boldly stumping up to her, would fitin 

Have ki»<ied her rosy cheeks, but she repuls'd him. I 

Saying, " Beg»me from me ! thou Iww-hred fellow If 

At this the soldier wept, and <taid, " C>b, }>u*an I 

Hast thou forgot thy etwee theart, Peter Thumpson l1 

Then did *hc gnze into lus face und btare 

Inttntly on him, and excl&imM *' Forgive me, 

Peter, I knew thee not: that wooden leg 

Has altered thee completely, and thy face* 

Once lair, is brown witli frauticles, nud sun-burut/' 

Soon afterward, ho married her; and n.>w 

There is no happier foul than Peter Tliompsoii, 

The cheerful landlord of a well-kept inn, 

Blest with a careful hotisewife and a pension.' 

Tlie Solitary cea9*d, and bade * Good nigbt,' 

As the moon rising over Langdale pikes 

Was silvering G rasmere Vale and Rydal Lake, 

- W. W,1 
The heading to this extenaion of Mr, Colly; 
note induces me to ask if an epitaph in Grasi 
Church, coiumencing — 
"^ These vales were saddened with no common gloonii 
k by Wordfiworth, as stnted in Hone's Table Bi 
It 18 on }i nmrbl© Uiblet in memory of 
Qui Hi nun, the tirsit wife of a gentleman who a] 
wardss married the bite Miss Dora Wordaworth. 
should nlei> like to know what are the '*rhym( 
that Wordsworth alludes to in ati etiriy 
thus : — 

" Those wittt/ rhymes 

About the crazy old church clock, 
And the bewildered chimes." 

What Wordsworth coni>idered ** witty *' tniiBfe ] 
worth preserving. 

(4*^S. X. S31, 418; 5^^ S. i. IIT.) 

TJic Dog of HclirAlytK During Christnms \ 
in the year 1 S04, young Guugh, who was a tjua . 
and had miidv many mtnbles in the hill>!( of Cu 
berlind and Westmoreland, aceorn|mnied by a liri 
yellow terrier bitch, named Fid a, quitted oofr 
morning the Patterdale inn, called the '* King*d 
Arms" (in those days no hotels existed in the 
mountain district), with his dog, intending to go 
over Helvellyn top to Wythhiirn. The day was- 
stormy — hailing when he set out — with snow upon 
the ground. He was unable to get any ono t< 
his companion over the mountain, because *' We 
wood's lioyal Volunteers*' were on duty that ( 
at Muttenlale, about five miles distant, »oi 
started by himself. 

More than three months after, on the C5tli 
or 7th April, 1805, a shepherd named Willia 
Harrison, in the employ of Mr. Mounsey, 
proprietor of Pattcrdale Hall, was on Helvelj 
looking after sheep, when, at the bead of the " 
Tarn, and near Swirrel Edge, he was much 
prised by the barking and nppeamoce of a 
m that remote and loneJy place. Ah th« 8h<:^pherd 
approacheii the creature went on, and he, folloM 
with '^ bodin^j thoughts/' came in sight of an obta 

to Jm 

at ^M 

S"8. It JvitJ. 7i] 



on th<^ grouad — n shape of something like what a 
TTi^n hi'1 once been. The dog stopped by the 
V rm. The ^hophe^t^, awe-«truck, dnred 

; r, iind hastened.Tuuch agitated, to Patter- 
d:ilc Hy.iL, iibont three miles distant, The dop did 
not follow. Harmon having procure^l the aid of 

^ other men, caniG hack, und the body wfts carried 
lown to the vilhijje. Fida, *^ wild and shjt" 
ef«5cd to be caught. She went in her masters 

jfetnain*!, barked, aod defeoded herself, biting the 

|iuaa who first ^ot hold of her. She was with 
flifficulty secured, and then taken in a basket to 

^"Kendal to the friends of Goiigh, Her future 
remains unknown. If matchleas fidelity deserve* 
an honourable montimentj hers ought to be a noble 

*' Butt the poor dog, in Ufa the finpeit friend, 
The lint Co weicome, foremost to defend ; 

Unhonouret! fftlla. Unnoticed all bii worth." 
GiUigh was buried at Tirril, near Penrith. 

ft api>ears that he must either have tried to go 
Tight up the crags of Helvellyn above the Red 
Turn, and fallen firom them, or have slipped off the 
' ofen snow at the summit. His body lay near 
iSwirrel Edge. Certainly he did not, as is generally 
mppo:^ed, tumble from Striding Edge. Hia hat 
waa discovered many yar^ls higher up the rocks 
than where his remainii were finind. Hia bodj^, or 
kelcton, was in the clothes, all except the skull, 
rhich lay at some distiinc«» 

The bitch, poor creature I had whelped in that 
wild and solitary ^pot — 

** Far in the boiom of Helvellyu, 

Remote from public road or divelliog.'* 

To shelter herself and her 3'oung from the 
intense cold of the stern region, which there rises 
♦ ' H'ct above the sea, — the Bed 

\ "^1 st of all the Cnmberland and 

Ai r^nriMH ,;ni.i i;i K^^,— she had dug out a burrow- 
in the fell-side. In it wiks found one whelp about 
^ftix weeks old. The puppy waa dead, but the 
Uother in gooti condition. What whe could meet 
^th on that barren mountain's breast to maintain 
bcr and her olfs^pring'B life for no long a time, 
"hrough the frost-s% snowH, rains, and storms of 
winter, is doubtful. Dead sheep may have been 
her support. Thcji© not unfrequently die on the 
uouut-ains by disease, falls from the crags, being 
aried in unow-drifte, or drowned in swoUen 
torrentjk, I>e:id fish ure occasionalJy thrown up on 
the moruina of the mountain tarns, Moreover, the 
^r ''* black ^lug is not uncommon. Foxes live 
ii on field mice, beetles, frogs; and there 
_nijgla l>o h*bbit» or other food a dog could subsist 
on. How do Uie hill foxes and ravens lire 
gh the winter ? A dead sheep during a hard 
Nroiild su«ituin a little dog for a lengthened 


^heep are brought down to the valleys in the 
winter season, they are not always so, and, at 
times, the poor beasts are so famished they eat the 
wool from each other's bticks. 

There are people who assert the dog devoured 
her ma.ster. The supposition is not a probable 
one. The Ked Tarn is only about three miles, 
from Putterdale and the little inn which the ill- 
fated wanderer and his devoted companion left the 
vfiry morning of his de^th. Had she chosen to 
quit him, — had the loving, enduring, valiant crea- 
ture not been indomit^ibly true to him and faithful 
to the 8j>ot, — how easily could she have retmced her 
stepa. Tliafc unfaltering affection, that indomitable 
constancy, is inconsi.^tent with the iden of her 
e-ating the body. Moreover, bitches eat their 
young when unable fixmi insufficiency of milk to 
support them : Fida's little one was untouched, 
though dead. Had she fed on her master^s corpse, 
it could hartlly have maintained her for three 
months— setting deeompo*iition aside— yet she was 
even in good condition when discovered, The 
hill foxes and ravens probably attacked thtj body 
while the poor dog wiis absent hunting for food. 
Ravens scent carrion from afar, and some, most 
likely, frequented the dark precipices of Helvellyu 
itself. George R. Jks^e. 


Autograph OF Burns : "To TgRRAUonTr o>* 
His Birth-Day'* (5^ S. i. 283.)— Having been 
nnvious to know the history of this autograph of 
Burns, I applied to its present iwssessor, John 
Taylor Johnston, Esq., of New York, to find 
whether he couhi tell in what way it had come 
into the possession of his friend Mr. Maxwell, of 
Dalbeattie, from whom he had received it. He 
has kindly furnished me with the following par- 
ticulars, which will be interesting to many of your 
readers. I ainnot say that I am very well versed 
in the handwriting of Burns, and, therefore, my 
opinion is comparatively of Httle value. I am in- 
clined, however, on comparing this autograph with 
those with which I am famQiar, such as *' Scots, 
wha hae," to think that it is a genuine autograplu 
though the handwriting seems to be smaller than 
that which he genemlly used. A friend draws 
my attention to the line, — 

" I see thy life is stuff O* prief,** 
and remarks that the capital is scarcely 
what Bums would have used, and which indeed 
does not ap{>e!ir in the copy of **N. & Q.,*' so 
difficult is itj with all the pains posaible, to give 
a fac-simile. Is the expression found in any of 
the other known autographs of Bums ; and if so, 
does he writ« witli a capitid 1 The autograph h.m 
evidently been divided into four parts, and hsut 
nin many risks of utter destruction, but ha* Mur- 
vived them all, though in a very t:ittepe<I *tatc, 





*' Dftlbeattic, nc&r Dum&iM, 2Uh Aug. 1659. 
" Tho mawuscript on the other tide hereof belonged 
at one time to a Miae Muiter* wbu, it is well kuuwn, wiis 
an iuiiiDate acquAititance of the poet Buriiii, atid a fre- 

Sttient visitor at big house in Dumfriea. Tradition Bay? 
hftt it was a gift from the |>oet himwiflf to the lady jibove 
named, and that eUe in her turn bestowed it on her 
rulivtive^ the Rev. James Little, M)ii]etime miiii»t«r of 
the parish of Colvcnd, in KirkcudbriKht'bire, From bia 
son-iti'Uw, Mr. Bobtrt Sutherland of Dalbcatlie, it vtub 
certainly obtained by Mr Thomas Maxwell of the aume 
pHace^ and by him donuted to John Taylor Johnston, 
Esq*, of New York. It has been in noBsession of the 
fiubecriber hereof for many years, and been compared 
with some of the poet's uadieputed autogmphsp aa well 
us examined by several pi^rtiei fanulifti* with his hand- 
writing, and been infanahly pronounced genuine. Dal- 
beattie having fonned purt of the district tiurvi^yed by 
Bums iB his capacity of an Officer of Exciic, he was in 
consequence intimately known to not a few inhabvtanti 
of thti place, and, among others, to the eubkcnber's 
mother, (Signed) Thomas Maxwell." 

The question arises whether the original addres.^ 
Bcnt to Terraiighty is lost ; and I suppose that it 
must be so, ua Lord Berries htm allowed Mr, 
Fra»er to insert si copy of this autograph of Mr. 
Johns too in the Book of Caerlaverocki though it 

is not quite correctly copied. If the ori^^iujil had 
been preserved in the Maxwell family^ thia auto- 
graph would not have beea resorted to. In the 
copy, which I ^ve in ** N. & Q./' there is a mis- 
print, arising likely enough from my indistinct 

writinjj;, which it may l)e as well to notice. In- 
stead of " Hoke them like Sodom and Gomorroh,'' 
read " Rake." C. T. liAMAaK. 

Thk Jews ly England (5*** S. L 399.)— I think 
it cjxu be shown, k propos of the very interesting 
extract from the Jewim World, that their earhest 
status in thii* country was a much more favoumhle 
one than h there descJ-iljed ; aud that it was this that 
moved the cupidity of the early '^ Chriatiiin " prieeta 
to *^ atir up the fieople" to their jiersecuLion, and will 
account for the **»tone43'' of their '* crucify iug Chris- 
tiau children on Good Fridays,'* &c. The fullest 
investigation upon this point would be of great 
utility and intoreat. In Holingiihed's Chro,^ 3^ 15, 
and Stowc'a Anns,^ 103^ it is stated that William 
the Conqueror and Rufus introduced the Jews into 
Eo^%nd to assist them in monetary matters. In 
BlomefieM's Norfolky 6^ 1 23^ and Parkius's Norfoll% 
8, 481 J it h distinctly eUted that they were hmd- 
owners, and lordsof manors as well as money lenders, 
Refereiice« are there given to the public reconk. 
The same occurred in co. Salop, and I think other 
counties also, about the same jieriod ; and it ap- 
pears that it was the succeeding kings, particuhirly 
John, wlio sided with their per»ecutors aod pocketed 
the 8]ioiIs. It would seem from the earliest history 
of Salop, that some Jews turned Chri^^tians, for 
the following (evidently Jews), with Christiiui and 
fiurmuuea, oci^ur there: from a. d. 115<> to 1301*, 
viz., John Aaron, Joseph Aaron (a prieut), Eiiaj* 
Jonas, Ric. Abel, Adam Hagar, Hemtog Sheakel, 


and Gdbert Sadoc. An eqtml number, at leaat, of 
Jewish names aUo occurs in the early history of 
Norfolk. These names (with Christiaii and sur- 
name added, and without the ** de ") are generally 
found in, or about, some royal demesne ; and, it 
strikes me that, as the Jews aasieted the earJ 
Norman kings in monetary matters, they ni 
have helped them also in managing their cro 
lands, forests, chaces, kc. The names occur in 
the forest and other rotU. The seven kings of the 
heptarchy had each such propertien. They woi "" 
all merge in Egbert, tirot monarch of Englai 
pass through the troublous times of the Di 
tt) the Conqueror ; then, when the New Forest 
near to the old capital, Winchester) was complete 
they wouhl be comparatively useless, and 
" utilized '■ for the Conqueror and his son 
Jews. What, might I ask, is further kno^ 
the subject, and what was the status of tlie 
in A. S. times ? There are Jewish names us la; 
owners in the Confessor's reign recorded in Doim 
day. C. Chattock, F.R.H.B. 

Castle Bromwicb. 

Hanging and Resitscitation (5** S. i* 44-t' 
In reference to this subject, the follow r^ ^'n 
from a paper in the QuarUrly Review 
1849, p. 393), on ^" Fontenelle, aur 
dee Signes de la ilort/' confirms the stateiuei 
quoted by Cyril. Mr. and ^Ira. Manning di 
on the gallows In November, 1849, for the mi 
der of O'Connor. Just before the executii 
Manning asked the fini.sher of the law if he shouli 
suffer much pain ; and I remember thinking 9A 
the time that it would have been a solace to 
culprit could he have read the article in questi( 
and known tliat it waa a positive pleasure to 
hanged ! — _ 

*^ An immenie number of persoriB recovered from in- 
eeneibility have recorded their nensatioiii, and agree in 
the report that an easier end (than hanging) could not 
be desired. An acquaintance of Lord Bacon, who meant 
to hang himself partially* lost hia footing, and waa cut 
down at the lust exircmity^ having nearly paid for hia 
curiosity with hiii life. Ue declared that he felt no pain, 
and hid only senaation wiis of fire before his cyc«, whi 
changed first to black and then to aky-blue. Tf 
colours are even a source of plca^mro. A Captain 
tagnac, who was hanged in Fraiice during the rcligi 
wupi!, and rescued frutn Lhe gibbet at the interoesflion 
Vidcount Turtnne, compliuned tlmt, havintr lost all i 
in an instant, he had lieen taken from a light of w 
the charm defied vleaeription, AikOther criinirtali 
escaped ' ^ "* * ' ' '' - cotd, said that, afi 

second it ed< ntid across it the 

UaHti/iii iv IV, of France teat 

physician iu qui<btii>u hiui^iiikud when mention waA 
of a pardon, the man nna^er^d cohily that it wa« 
worth the asking. The n^ ■•-!*' *.f'tho de ^'"^ 
renders it uselera to mult ii -), Tbey 

in every book of Tnrd'rnl ■ ■ c. All i 

the unt:^ 

hues StuU i^i^ .,. ..-.^ .,,^: .;-.r,.--^ -' -» '^- 

boen gased ou for a tririat spAce, the rest is obli 








Til ! from tbe reality of tbe eituntion, la 

«ifL e moft remote from thtki whicU fills 

tliL^ .^. -: .:. ..j,.^cULtorf — the vile mbble, ibe bideouB 
gftlloiTi, »nd th« struggliDg form th&t twings io tbe 

H. A. Kennedy. 
Wi^rlo<> Lodge, Beading. 

" Aug. 3" (1805). ** Walked with Fiiiii round tbe gaol. 
Tbe ipikllows erecting for tbe execution, F. meotioned 
tbat ft friend of his had often (1) inquired of a perron 
f»ho btul been turned off, mid cut down on a repneTtt, 
Kvhitt wtfre bia 8en««tione. He ^lud tbe prepftr&ttOQS 
Mrere dreadful beyond all expresiion. On being dropped^ 
be found hifABelf ami dit fieldji and nrerg uf bloody gradcudlj 
atquirtng a greenith tioge,— imagined if bo could reach 
a certain tpot in the tame be fbould be easy, — struiEgled 
forcibly to attain it,— atid fett no more !*' — Green's Diary 
quoted in GftUteman's Mageuiiu, May, 1834. 

I knew one who in like manner "babbled of 
^jfeea fields ^ on his recovery from drowning. 

Qui VIS. 

Lavikia Fbnton, DucnESs of Bolton (5"^ S. 
i. 488.) — I thought most sstudenta knew that 
Hogurtli ptunted one of hi» best portraits from this 
lady. It waH engraved by G. W ataoD, and ta now, 
or wiifl while comprised in the Second Exhibition 
of Nntionftl Portraits, 1B67, in the poasession of 
Mr, Brin^lcy Marlay ; it bore the number 240. 
It bxH been also enji^^ved by other hands than 
those of Wataon* (Jack) Ellys likewise painted 
her, itnd his work was engraved by Faber, l72Sy 
prtant year in her hiatoiy. Hogarth's like- 
IIW8 rather more than a buBt, in a low lace- 

_ 'dre^s, with a flower in the bosom and a 
necklace of pearl;^. The ArtiDdel Society published 
II fiurly successful plioto^iph from the original, 
taken while that work was at South Kensington. 
She looka about forty years of age, and proliably 
aat to Hogarth in 1748, or about that time. 

F. G. S. 

Pastorini (.5*^ S, i 4<>6) was the name assumed 
by Dt. WalraAley, a bishop of the Church of Rome 
la England, in the title of his work on the Eeve- 
Ution of St. John* In it he predicted the de- 
jtraction of all heretics in 1825. The falsification 
of this prophecy has caused his book to bo almost 
forgot t4jn. The same befell a work on unfulfilled 
ffophecy by one Fleming, which foretold the 
VII of the Puptury in 1848 ; and also a 
uptdet called Tht Cirming Siruggk^ which 
made A great noii»c just after the cio^e of the 
Wiir. S. T. P. 

hsBAK ^ (5«» S. i. 4G9.)— This word is Gaelic, 
means an adder. Highlanders, as a matter of 
coonr^ declare tliat Giielic is older thun Hebrew, 
liartng been the hinguji^je spoken by Adjim and 
Jive ia Pufndi^e. 1 quote from memory : — 
•* Wben in tbe Wwcis of paradiae 
E%e Unit t«*t Adam's view, 
Tlie ftrftt wortj that bo iaid to her, 

Of coui^ the ^; the lait plita&e is not 

Celtically corrci r the benefit of your 

re^uiers who do not understand Gaelic, I may state 
that it means ** How are you to-day 1 " J. H, 

The proper name of one of the sons of David, 
mentioned in the lists next after Solomon and 
before Elisha, 2 Samuel v. 13-10 ; 1 Chroa. iiL 
6 ; xiv. 4-7. It aignifies "whom he (sc. God) 
chooises." By Jose^os (ArUiq* rii. iii. 3) it is 
written Jeban. W, Platt. 

Conserrative Club. 

Latin and ENousa Quantittt (5*^ S. i. 464.) 
— Something might be said in defence of Byron'g 
** tribanal," strange aa it sounds. Anyhow, there 
are many Latin words of which we English 
habitually diaregard the Latin quantity , owing to 
our fondnedss for lengthening the penultimate, 
like auditor and inteTWcHt&r. The atory is well- 
known of the Scotch advocate who, upon speaking 
of airdtOTM before an English judge, wa.s reminded 
by him that the word should be pronounced curd- 
tors^ in the Latin manner. " I supposed," retorted 
the advocate, ** that I was folio wiog tbe English 
proDunciation ; but I bow to the decision of so 
great a nemtor and eloquent an ordt&r tis your 
lordship." Jl H. I. Oaklkt. 

Heraldic (b^ S. i. 449.)— In answer to P. 0, E., 
the arms, &c., belong to the family of Wilson, of 
Queenaferrj', Scotland. 

Wm. Jackson Pigott. 

DandnuD^ co. Down. 

'' Te' berrin's gone by," &c (5«* S. I 468.)— 
This ftaytng, exactly as Hermentrude gives it, ia 
very common in Craven ; but it is chiefly confined 
to achool-boys. At Skipton and Cnrleton Gram- 
mar Schools, when a boy 

** Just arrired in time to be too late '* 
for a share of ** toffy " or *' bull's-eye," he was 
always greeted by us with the proverb. I never 
could find any meaning in it. Anthony is a very 
common name in Lancaahire and Oraveo. 

Stepeen Jackson. 

"There's somewhat in this world amiss" 
(G**» S. i. 468.)— This is in what is now the third 
verse of Alfred Tennyson's pniem, " The Miller's 
Daughter," p. 83, edition 11S48 of Po^nut ;— 
" Yet fill my gbua : give mc one kiss ! 
My own sweet AUce. we miwfc die. 
There '« somewhat in ibis world amiss 

^ball bo unriddled bj and by, 
There 's totuewbat fiow<» to u« ih Ufe, 

But more is taken quite awuy. 
Pray, Alice, pray, my dmrling wife. 
That wo may dietlie f^-irmrue dity. 
It is by no means improbable that the last line 

tt: " ^ ^ suggested to Mi^s Dinidi ^^ 

t ^ion of her best work, 

\rML>. u 



p** 6. IL Jutt 4, ti 

othtrrwisje inemomLle, if it be true, as wu« reportetl 
long atro» that it wus brouglit under the notice of 
Queen Victoria l»y *Mohniiy who iip^et the coach/' 
iind by its winning the iwal favour was tlie 
iinmediiite occnBion of piiniuf,'^ for TonnyBon the 
newly vacj*nt Liinreatslup. lu the first edition, 
1833, there is un openiaw ver^^e, now omitted : — 
** I met in mil tbo close green vraya. 

While vriilkinp wUli my line and rod. 
The we alt by Miller'a mealy fiice, 
Like the moon in an ivy-tod. 

He h»oked go jully uni to good 

While Hiihinu; In the mUl-dam waterj 
I laufihed to «ec him M ho stood. 
And dreamt not of tbe Miller's d&ughter.** 

J. W. E. 
MolRfihi by Ashfordi Kent. 

Mrs, -Cow den Clarke's Shakspearb Co^s- 
coRDANCE (5*^ S. i. 485*) — It is a curious circum- 
stance thftt it would he inipoi<siblc for any one to 
verify a certain well-known Shakspeurlan quota- 
tion — 

" 'Tib in ourfolvu tbjit we ftre tfaui. or thus/' 

OiktUo, Act L flc. 3, 
by referring to this excellent Concordance, for the 
reason thtit it entirely consists of the simplest 
words. These the accomplished compiler bus nutu- 
ridly omitted^ otherwise they would have swelled 
her hmk to nn enormouis hulk. 

JonatHjVn Boucriko. 

Dr. William Dudd {Ty^^ S. i. 488.)-'Seo also 

•' a f\A\ . . , , Account of tbe life and trial of . , , , 
Doctor Dodd," Lc. Lond, [1777 1» linio. 

'* Genuifie jMeinoirsi of the Rev. Dr. Dodd ; containing 
manv curious anecdotes." .... bond* [1777 J, Svo. 

**Tbe trial and the life of the Rev. Dr. Dodd.** 
tPtLJ 1777, Svo. 

Allibone refers to the Memoirs prefixed to his 
Thoughts in Pruon; Jones's Lift of Hornc; Gen- 
tleman's Miuja::ini', Ix., 1010, '66, '77 ; and Boa- 
well*s Life of Dr. Johnson. 

Sparks HEXDERsoy Williams. 

IS, Kenmngton Crescent, W. 

FLEtjR DE Lyb (5"^ S. L 480,)— The old name, 
flower de luce, is **a pknt of the genua /mV; 
yellow flag; Iris pmudacontii**:WoT€GHU>t's Eng- 
lish Didimta'nj, The quotiition from ShakB^^eare, 
lltnnj VI., Pt, I. Act i. Bi% i., commonly cited 
with the word la — 

" Cropped are the flower de lucea in your arms ; 
Uf Englnntl'a coat one half is cut uway.'^ 
The word is still inserted in dictionariet> : " Fleur- 
deliser, to cover with flower de luces."— J. E. 
Weisseley 8 French Didionartj, Routledge. Flower 
de lis is the mode of spellin^r In Guillim'ti DvtpUnj 
of Heraldry, § iii. c. x., p. 143, Lond,, 1660 :— 

'* But of all other, the Flower de lis is of most esteem, 
b&Ting been, from the firat. bearing the charge of u 
Beg»l eicocbeon^ ongin&lly boroo by the French Kinga, 
though tract of time hath made the bearing of them 
mof© Tiilgtr." 

£d. Marshall. 


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"This MAURIAOB is a TERRtULK tuis^o," 
(5*1* S» i. 488.) — Thc«e Une8 appear to he meant i 
the following in Hood s Miss Kilmanscgif^ Part [ 
** Her Marriage '* : — 

•* Yet wedlock 's a very awful thing \ 

'Tis sonicthiiii^ like that feat in the ringj, 

Which requires good nerre to do it — 
When one of a ' Grand EqueBtrian Troop * 
Makes a jump at a gilded hoopi 
Not certain at all 
Uf what mav befull 
After hiB getting through it I '' 

Jonathan Bouchier, 

PoptJLAR Verses bearino Serious Aliaisiohis 
(h^ 8. i. 380.)— Your correspondent (J. W. trn 
lie glad to see what Mr, J. 0, Halliwell 
{Nuncnj Ehymtis of England, 6th edition, p, 
concerning ** 8ing a Song of Sixpence ^' : — 

" The firat line of this nursery rhyme is quoted in 
Beaumont and Fletcher's Bofiduat, Act v,, ic» 2. It is 
probable, alfio, that Sir Toby alludei to this song in 
Twr.ifth Ni'jhi, Act, ii., ic. 2, when be rays, * Come 
there is a tixpenc© for you ; let 's have n song." 
KpHiano ; or^ ik€ Jialian Banffuet^ 1589, i* a receipt 
make pies to that tbe birds may be alive in them n\ 
flie out when it is cut up/ a mere device^ live birds 
being iutrcduced after the pie ii made. This may be t' 
oriKinal subject of the following song, * Sing a i?ong 

CtmiBERT BbdeJ 

Plavs oy "Plat'* {5^ S. i. 423.)— A plj 
culled Thirty Years of a Gombk/s Life ib oe^ 
sionally on the bills uf the Theatre Royal, ~ 
mingham ; this, us the scene is laid at Paris 
suspect to be a translation of Tunic Ans ; 
la Vie t^ttn Joueur. Among plays containii 
^amblintr episodes should be included 
Lytton s comedy, Monty. S. FoxALi 


FoLK-LoRE OF THE Hare (^j^^ S* i, 427.)- 
Tlte CliTonides of Mernf Enfflantl, London, l^ 
Book ii„ § 4, is— "She " (Boadieea) "had a an 
in her hand, and a live hare \vithin the folciaj 
her loose-bodied gown, which, nl the end of 
speech, she let slip for f/oo(/ lucL'' The italics , 
mine, J, Manuel.1 

"Paws'* (5*1' S* i. 460) are mentioned 
" itinerant broom -vendors— a northern name." 

have not met with this word oa a name, nor heard^ 

applied to broom -vendors, or, rat her, as we call them, 
" Eussuni-maekers.- ' Foa was the name of a tribft 
of Gypsies located on the Boniers, and of which c. 
Will Faa was, in his day, the kin;^. Sir Wall 
Scott, I think, mentioni* this tribe in one of 
novels. The name seems, at one time in the bori 
country, to have been appbed to a mischievQ 
pickle of a child. A lady of my ac»|uaint«tnce 
forms me that, when a child, her grand moth 
who came from the border country, occasiona 
reptoved her thus : " 0, you little Ftui !'' It woa 
be used, also, playfully, as "0, yoa little Gypsy I *'' 





occasion (illy to l^e lieurd in these duys. 8ir Wiilter 
has Gabriel Fua, in (rvy Mtxnrmiuff^ aa tht^ 
nephew of Meg Merrilies, J, N, 

BiirDArii Cmstlc. 

'* Market " (5*^ S, I 469) may refer to the Isle 
of Hsirken, a little N.E. .\jiisteruAm. 

R. S. Chabkock. 
Gnhy'i Itin. 

Yorxo's ** NiOBT Thoughts '' (5«* S. i. 365.)— 
Tbe above poem may not stiit tlie taste of the 
present rery stipe rior age, but it contuinA a re- 
iDHrkAble number of pjiasagea lit for quotation, 
I would instance the following : — 

•'Humble Love, 
And not proud Eea^n, keeps tbo door of Hearen.'' 
** Tbe spirit w&lks of every day deceased, 
And emil«s Rti anget, or » fury fi-owns." 
** Fniib buitda & bridge from tbia ivorld to tbe next* 
O'er De&tb's dark gulf^&nd all its borror bides." 

That tbe i>oeti5 have read Night HioughU with 
aittention and sympathy is evident from the 

t manner in which they Iiave borrowed from that 
production. To cite a very few caaes : — 
" Man wants bat little, nor tbat little long/' 
NigfU iih, 
"Man want! but tittle bero below^ 
■ Kor wants that little long." 

■ Goldamitbi Edmin and An^tiina. 

r ''A preTiQUB bla«t fortelA tbe rising storm/' 
NiyfU 3rc/. 
•• Coming erenta cast their ibadows before." 
Campbell's Lochicl't )Varninff. 
*' Hit crimen forgive ! forgive his virtues too ! " 
*' Forgiro wbat seem'd my Bin in mo, 
w Wbat •cem'd roy worth since I began.** 

■ Tennyson's In M'fnwnafn. 

T J. w. w. 

CxfiBTTLED BaRONKTCIES (5** S. l 125^ 1J>4, 
i52L} — ^W. BL*s objection to the House of Lords 
deciding claims to baronetoiea is, I thinks very 
well founded, but some of his remarka are scarcely 
accumte. For instance, he aays that tbe Houito 
of Lords acta as referees and advisers of tbe 
Crown in peerage cases, and that peerage cbims 
are always referred to them. This is, of course^ 
tbe general rule, but there have been crises where 
tbi! clami to a peerage has been disputed ami 
tliaalbwed by the Peers themselves, on the jfrouod 
of Want of power in tbe Crown to create such a 
peervge^ a«, for instance, the creation of the life 
pprtttge of Wensleydale, where the House declined 
10 allow a Peer to sit, notwitlistanding a writ of 
aittnmona from the Crown. Agiiin, W. M., in 
a^nswer to Mb* tSTRATToN, denies the analogy of 
th» cUima to Irish and Scotch peerages with that 
of ' ' T'Ut the Lord.s certainly 

h / Crown, taken cogni- 

affect themselves as a House. A modern case in 

Cint wa* tbe claim of the co-heiresses of the bUe 
»rd Willougbby d'Eresby to a moietj^ of the 
office of Hereditary Great Chamberlain, and tbe 
reference to the Peers in cases of attainder or 
abeyance, in view of those disabilities being re- 
moved by the Crown, supports, to a certain extent, 
this ^-iew of tbe matter. W. M. also rcmsirks 
that a baronetcy can in Scotland be indirectly 
established by a Decree of Ser\'ice, and that a 
right under a Ser\uce of 1821 cannot now be called 
in (Question. But this could not in any way, I 
take it, affect a baronetcy or peerage ; for it is an 
undeniable rule that the Crown cannot suffer from 
neglect or laches, and that no enjoyment of an 
hereditary dignity, however long, can give an 
indefeasible title. 

If I might suggest a tribunal to decide claims 
to baronetcies, I should certainly fix upon the 
Probate Court, and mainly for thb reason, viz., 
because it already has, under the powers given by 
the Legitimacy Declaration Act, the power of 
deciding many, if not most, of the disputed baro* 
netcies, e.ff.^ Payne, Vane, Codrington, Frederick, 
&c. The process might be very simple. Let the 
Garter, the Lyon, and the Ulster Kings^at-Arms 
draw up yearly a roll of the baronets of the three 
Kingdoms, as is now in the ciise of the peemge 
done by Garter and Ulster. Let them admit to 
such rolls those baronets only who could prove 
their right to their dignities*, in tbe same manner 
as a Peer proves his right to a i^Tit of summons on 
the death of his ancet^tor, and give them the 
power in case of any doubt or n\H>n the motion of 
a rival claimant, whether to a dignity on or off 
the rolls, to transfer the consideriition of the ease 
to the Probate Court, and give the Crown ]Kiwer 
to attend any proceedings. If a power of nppeal 
should be desired, the most appropriate would bo 
to tbe Queen in Council, that is, to tbe Judicial 
Committee. This is not, and never can be, a 
popular question ; but if some M.P, or Peer of 
legal training would introduce a well-considered 
bill on the nubject, it is difficult to see what 
objection there could be to its being carried into 
kw. E. Passingium* 

W, M. says,— 

^' If, in tbfl cfise of Dick, tbe right to the baronetage 
was Yc - ! son 90 recently as 1 S21 , and the present 

claim I I since that date upon tbe mere quevtion 

of proj , ^ 1 ! that person, and u tfowi in t'tsei/f tbd 
expense ot a service would be comparatively triding.*' 

This I grant; but as no such baronetcy ever 
existed, no service can be of any avail 

Setu Wait* 

Sbizino Corpses for Debt (4** S. xii 158» IQO, 
2m y 5«* S. i. 49<».)— This repulsive i ' 'f^ to 

mind Masstngcrs Fatal ]Jon*ri/^\\\ivi 



MATsha) of Burgundy, whose body^ ^^ Imving died 
a prisoner for debt, is arrested at the prison door, 
when his son engages to satisfy the creditors, — 
'* WiioflC cruelty denied him rest in deiith/* 

and snirendew himself to obtain its sepulture. 

The supposed instance of Sir Barnard Turner, 
in 17iS4, was imitated half-a-century later, hut do 
less supposititioiisly, I hope, as I heard it whispered 
at tlie funeral of a friend, I remember, however, 
an epigram, older, I believe, than the poor baronet's 
case, when the privations, the afflictions, the 
squalor, suffered by robbers and murderers, were 
heaped as heavily on debtors, ad pttnam^ as being 
erpmlly criminal in not paying their creditors : — 

** Of old, to debtorf who iiuol?cnt died 
E^^'vpt the rites of sepulture dented : 
A Jilfcrent trmlo euliglitened ChristUiis drirc. 
And chftritftbij bury them alive/' 

E. L. S, 

Sir Thomas Strang ewats (5"» S. i, 127, 1»4, 
318.) — I ought to have taken more notice of the 
fact that J. F. M. spoke of Viscounty not Lord, 
Beaumont, My reason for doubting the m:\rriage 
was certainly not the absence of grant or panion, 
which, a« J. P. M. suggests, would disprove 
nothing. It was the consideration that I had 
never met with any allusion whatever to Katherine 
Neville as Livdy Beaumoni I understand him to 
say tkiit the marriage is proved by dociimcntiirj' 
evidence ; if bo, there is an end of tho cpiestion. 
My note of the pardon contains no description of 
Sir Thomas Strangeways ; and I think it would 
have done so, had there been any, 


BuxjA (5^ S. I 287, 374, 417, 458.)— Is there 
not an error here ? It is not from personal know- 
ledge, but only on the authority of books, that I 
speak when I say that it is Btid^, and not PeM, 
which is otherwise called Of en ; Anglic^ ovtn or 
stofHs, From my own knowledge, I may add 
th/it the equivalent of 0/m is, in Ec<^l. Slavonic, 
Fi^^hfck, and in RiiBsinn, Fetch. With the Polish or 
Bohemian variants I am not acquainted, 

W. B. 0. 

CawpBR : Trooper (5^^ S. i. 68, 135, 272, 316.) 
— If the following letter, wluch appears in the 
Europmn Ma^axine, 1814, vol Ixvi. pp, 386, 387, 
does not materially help to settle the controversy 
at prenent being waged in " N. & Q.,'* it may prove 
somewhat Interesting in showing that Kixty yejirs 
ago the pronunciation of the name of Cowjxjr was 
a subject of discussion in the correspondence 
columns of a popular monthly periodica! : — 

** It appe&ri to me fAther sin^lar that there should 
oxitt ft diversity of opinion with regard to the pronun- 
ciation of the lume of Cowprr. That a gentleman of 
tlmt uwne, belonging to the HauBe of Commoni, is callcti 

Cooper^ instead of Cotrpn, prtjves nothing, but that tfatt 
pronunciation ia errone'ous. One of your Correspondents 
jsiys, that he knowBi only one word analogous to Cowper 
in which the w is dropped in pronouncing it, imd that is 
Snowden ; hut as this word is evidently composed of 
tnow and dov^n. (a plain upon a barren bill), the tir^t 
gyllftble ought to retain its original eound, Sno. We fay 
Sno'fnll, nut Snoo'hiilf or Snou-hUl. For the some reason 
Cowper can neither be pronounced Coper nor Coopfr, or 
else we mu^ also say Coatd, or Cooard, for Cowar\i. The 
diphthong f>w is pronounced either o or o», but never wj, 
119 far u I know* If in sumamei it were to eound like 
00, then we ought to pronounce the names Bowles* 
Brownlow, Crowder, Howard, Howland, Lowtht'r, Lowry^ 
Owen, Rowley, Townshcnd, &c.> Boolst, Brmmlo*), Cror^der, 
Hooardf H(H>l^Hd, Lootktr, L&ory, Ootn, Rooteift Toon^ 
tfundf &c.*' 

This correspondence had its origin in a manner 
characteristic of the times, not, as in ** N. & t^.," by 
a correspondent quoting a verse in which C'Owper 
was made to rhyme with Trooper. ** A Constant 
Header " relates that, '* sitting otvr tht bottir one 
day with some friends," he hnp|)ened to iu?k a gentle* 
nmn whether he had read Uowper's poems, ** pro- 
nouncing it as if it had been spelled Cooper," and 
his friend replied that he had not read Cowper's 
poems, ** pronouncinfT the first ayllnble as you would 
pronounce tho quadruped cow'' (*t<?). 

It appears to me that the ** ingenious " writer 
(as he would be tenued in those days), who, in all 
likelihood, has been long since gathered unto his 
fathers, in the letter I have given above, has made 
a very good defence of the common pronunciation 
of the name of Cowper, The fact of some versifier 
having made Cowper rhyme with Trooper should 
not, I think, be any criterion, and, until I see 
better reasons for changing my opinion than liave 
as yet appeared on the !*ubject in *' N» & Q.," I for 
one shall continue to pronounce Cowper ** as you 
would pronounce the (luadruped cow.*' 

W. A. C. 


Watnkclowtes : Plooh-clowtbb (6»** S. i. 

" In riii. moldbredes (plough mold board) empti* xiid. 

*^ In ii. moldbredclontz (iron platee) emptiA xiid. 

** In xii. clut' cmpt' xi\d. 

** In ii* clout naii emp* virf." 

From Cmnpotus of y" Sttimnt of Sir John de Itard^ 
Mhnl, 33 Ed. III. (ftarh Roll. A.A. 31.) 

Felix LAtrRE^cT. 


P,S. " dottt : aH iron pkte to keep an axle- tree 
from wearing." — Johnson's IHcL 

Swans (5»* S. i. 308, 338.)— Jodrell, in hia | 
IlluHrationJs of Enripidts^ after having considered 
the ancient idea of the musical quality of tho 
swan, enumerates the authors and witnesses of 1 
more modem times who acknowledge and support I 
it, and, on the other hand, those opposed to these | 
authorities. (lofi^ pp. 43-74.) 



>8.IL J«iLT4,7i.] 



Classical Sigk-boards (6*^* S. i. 20B, 395.)— 
When a schoolboy at Fulnec, near ljeed$, wcU- 
"gh sixty years ago, I retnemhert on ooe of our 
^•chool excursion 8 to Kirkstall Abbey, noticing on 
the liign-board of the chief inn of the neighbouring 
village the short Greek motto, rh ^rrpiTrov. Greek 
mottoes on the sign- boards of our villa^ inns 
must, I imagine, be mre. Octis. 

Eifletj, Beds. 

Bardolf op Wiumegat (5*^ S. i. 227, 293, 
41 R)— I regret to say that I cannot answer the 
qaeriei} in Cf. A* C/s last communication. Perhapa 
he will find replies by taking the advice |»iven him 
by Tkwars. ' Hermentrdde* 


GmoiT TO Aix" (5* S. L 71, 174, 298, 418.)— 
Mr. Browning, while on a yachting expedition in 
the Mediterranean, w^as once lying becidmed. The 
&ncy »tnick him, what would I give for a goo<l 
gallop ! Aa a I'Jcvrc/io? ttAo it«E he wrote the ballad 
in question. I have heard the story at firBt bund, 

F. Storr. 

Tbb SxnrpLowER (^^ S. i. im, 256, 417.)- 
This flower is called gtrasol in both Italian and 
Spanish^ and derives its name from turning, girare, 
in both langnages. From one of tbe^e languages 
comen our JeroBalem artichoke, which has nothing 
to do with Jerusalem, but a great deal with its 
reHBubhinre to the giratol, or sunflower. 

E. L. Blekkiitbopp. 

[ShOTTEK Hebrino (St** S. i. 146,194,276,449,) 
^ f Taylor s WorhSj iii. 5 : — 

" Though they like shotten-beiring* arfl to we, 
Yet rach t&ll Bouldier^ of their teeth tbej be 
That two of them, like greedy cormorants, 
Devour more than sixe Loneat protestanta." 

Fredk. R^le. 

^Thomas Frte (5^^ S. i. 269, 3 J 6, 419, 470.)— 
the portrait of the Queen of Denmark 
\to under the above heading i« not by Frye. 
■iting I have seen a reduced engraving of 
DO sabject by Wataon aft^r Cotea, I was 
led into the mistake from seeing it among the 
by Frye in the Print-room of the British 
Charles AVtlie. 

" (4^ S. xii. 324, 395, 438 ; r,^^ S. I 
Ii7 377.) — Permit me to ffugg<*Rt tbnt this 

cxpktitfe lA, like most or»tha, of the<»l tn, 

lad ui nynonymous with the obsoh /v» 

ptcpervnd in Thjin Aldrich^s Bark the ^onny 
CVilteAiiftrA iklU^ which sound — 
' r/y jjTcat." 

Hexrt Attwku* 

jam PmissoLAft M£04yi($>^ 


458, 498.)— Permit a final paragraph to this sub- ] 
ject to recommend a perusal of vol. ii. of Chris*! 
topher Kelly's History of ihe Wartf^ where the! 
reader is told, and quite correctly, that **<ttfry 
individual present ^^ at Waterloo received the 
medal J. W. FLKMtsro. 


St. Catherhte of Siexka (5«* S. i. 387, 433.) 
— I copy the annexed titles from various cata* 
logues I — 

1. '' Vie de Siiinte Catherine de Sienne, par Raymond 
de Capoae, iuivie du Suppl6ment da Thomas Gitflarini et 
dcfl terooignage* dea diicitilei de Sainte Catherine anJ 

Sroce* de Venise." (Edition*, Paris, ISiSS and 1859»1 
Raymond of Capun waa her Confessor) 

2. The same work tr&nRtnted, Dublin, 1S57. 

3. "The Life of Saint Catbcrinc of Siena, New Yofk.'* 

By Father PormbjJ 

4. "Catherine de Sienne. Fioreti utili»iml extract! J 
dal diuto Dval()go vulgaro da ta Seraphica ipoaa dt 
Cbristo Saneta Gktharina da Siena del tertio ordin« di 
Sco. Domenfco (A la fin). Impresfte in Perrara per 
Laxirentio de Eubei da ValenUn. ISllj'* in Sro. with 
portrait. ■ 

5. " Catharina SeneneiA. Vita ac mtrneula telectiora 
formia aeneis expresaa Venitiia. 1755,'' in 4to., 34 platea. 
Noa 4 and 5 ire quoted in Catalogue AlaiBODneave etC**. 
Pans, 1870. 

E. A. P. 

WooLSTOK Well, West Felton (5"» S. i. 449, 
51^.) — The local traditions are singularly meagre. 

1 have never heard any date assigned to the . 
building. It is evident, I tliink, that the cottage 
over the well was formerly used m a chapel, and 
there are some persons in the neighbourhood (tny- 
&elf amongst the number) who would be glad to 
see it restored as such. The water of the well ia ' 
singularly pure and clear ; it is mid to be good 
for the eyes. I hojK* that some one will be able 
to discover more about it than 

The Rector^s Wife. 

SrER^fE AS A Poet (5'*^ S. i. 388.)— I copy the 
following from the account of C<»xwold in Gill's 
VallU Ehorac^iuis : — 

'*The following piecso of original ijoetry, by Sfcerna, 
has been handed dnwa in Bueeet«on from the com> 
poeer tn the rev. gentletnen who have auooeedod him 
in the living of Cox^old, and through the kindness of 
the Rev. George Scott is now presented to the public ; — 
The Uwkkowk" 0. 
Verses occa«ion*d by hearing a PftM>Bellj 

B>* y- Rev'. Mr, St a. 

Hark* my gay Fr'' j* eolemn Toll 
speaks y* departure of a soul ; 
Iii gone, y" all we know— not where 
Qr how y* unbody*d ioal do's fare. 

In y^ mynterioaa none knowa, 
But 9 at<>ne to w" it goes ; 
To whom departed aouls retttm 
To take y" Doom, to niiilo or mourn, 
^^^^ Oh ' by v,^ t^Hmm'ririLf liutit w gvie 
^^^Bie un' ' 



[5" 8. IL JULT i, 74. 

God baa lock'd up y* myetic Pa^^v- 
Atid curtiutL*d dftrkiieaa rguad y" stage ! 
Wife }^ to render Msrch perplext, 
Hm driivra 'twixt y' & y' next 
A dftrk unpenetrable icreen 
AU b«biod w*^ is yot unsecoi f 

We tatk of 8, wg talk of Hell ; 
But w* yy« loean no tongue can tell I 
Heaven U y* retiim t?bere angels are, 
And Hell y* cbaoe of despair. 

But w' y*" awful trttths Imply, 
None of ub know before we die ! 
Wheth**^ wo will or no, we muet 
Take y* succeeding on tni«t. 

Tbls hour perhaps o"" Fr"^ is well. 
Death-struck y" next he cries, Fazewell ! 
I die ! — k y"^ for ought we see, 
CettAGs at once to breathe & be. 

Thu* launch *d f"** life's ambiguous shore, 
TnguTpb'fi in Death appears no more. 
Then undirected to repair 
To difttant 0* we know not where. 

Swift flies y" 1^, perhaps 'tis gone» 
A thousand Icikgnes beyonil y' sun ; 
Or 2" 10 thousand more 3" told. 
Ere y" forsaken clay is cold ! 

And yet who knows if Fr*'^* we lov'd 
Tho* dead inay be ho far remov'd ; 
Only y* vail of fl«sh between* 
Perhaps yy. watch us though unseen. 

Whibt we, y'^ loss Uinentingf say, 
They're out of hearing far away ; 
llnardians to us perhaps they're near^ 
Conceard in vehicles of air. 

And yet no notices yy. give. 
Nor tell us where, nor how yy. live ; 
Tho* conscious wliiUt with us below, 
How much y""* d««ired to know. 

As if hound up by solemn Fftte 
To keep v" veoret of y^' state. 
To tell y"' joys or paina to none, 
That man might live by Faith alone. 

Well* let ray suverdgn, if ho j)Iease| 
Look up his marvellous decrees ; 
Why sh"* I wish him to reve&l 
W* be thinks proper to couceat T 

It is enough y* I believe 
HeaTen 's bright y" I can conceive : 
And lie y' msJtes it all his csre 
To istve God here shall »eit him there • 

But oh 1 w' 0* shall I survey 
The moment y* I leave y* clay t 
How sudden y' surprise, how new f 
Let it, my God, be h^ppy too," * 

J, G. B. 

Bar Sikistkr (5^»* S. L 268, 314, 4 L=*,)— Bogging 
Mn. Stephen Jackson's pvrdon, tho mark of 
illegitimate descent in heraldic bearings is not a 
hmd. sinister, but a baton amister^ the latter figure 
being a diminutive (in width) of the former, and 

• ExplanaUon of the ^rmbols, kc. :— © world ; 
^ He ; b heaven ; 1^ soul ; y"* th«mselv«8 ; y th ; 
yy they ; y* them, fto. 

Ljing tninctited at each end, instead of extending 
entii'ely across the shield. The first Dukes of 
ClevelaDd, Grafton, and St. Albans, natural sons 
of Charles 11., bore hia arms with a baton sinister 
over all, to mark their illegitimacy. In tliose 
days, such a mark of connexion with royalty was 
considered an honourable distinction in a coat of 
nnnt, and some heraldic authorities write with 
scorn of the notion that any marks of diBtrniee 
were ever inserted in heraldic bearinp. The term 
" bur sinister/* in English heraldn% would not only 
he a misnomer, but would involve in it an im- 
{Kissibility ; for as a bar Is a horizonttd figure, 
extending entirely acroes the shield, it could not, 
as a whoic, be either dexter or sinister* I think, 
however, that I can explain how the term *' bar 
sinigter " has crept into our language. In a curious 
work on heraldrj' now before me, published in 
1724, and which I fancy is now Bomewbat rare, 
viz*, Johnston's Notitia An^lic^nu (see vol. ii. 
p. 54-6), it ifl .stated that the French heralds have 
no " bend sinister" in their heraldry, but call it a 
" ban" So it would seem that " bar sinister *' is & 
Gallicism. Johnston ridiculejs the idea of any 
heraldic betiringa lieing pigniticant of dingnice. 
At the eaiue time, I imagine that all hernld« admit 
that there are de^ree-i of Iron our in the i>ositIon 
of figures in the field, and that the sinister side 
of a shield is less honounible than the dexter. 

M. ait 

Surely a *' baton 8inist^?r *' is also used as n 
mark of illegitimacy. It may be ^een at this 
monient pbiced on the shield of the Royal arms 
of Englund borne by the Fitz-Roys, Dukea of 
GrartoiL John PickforD| M.A. 

Kewbounie Eectoryi Woodbridge, 

Welsh Testament (:>^ S. i. 9, 173, 256, 393.) 
—I opened this correspondence in order to call 
attention to imjportxmt variances between the 
English and Webb versions, and with a view to 
ascertain whether the New Testament Company, 
ID collating different versions, are taking any notice 
of the Welsh vension. I only quoted the c^iae of 
the miracle at Cana as one Instance out of many, 
in which it appears to me that the Welsh ia more 
clear and forcible than the English. Possessing 
but i\ Bupcrticial knowledge of Welsh, I may have 
been mistaken^ as pointed out bv Mr, IJnnone and 
SKtMA, in tmnjilating the Wclsn "mo'r*' into the 
English 7nore^ and I don't dispute their correctness. 
At the same time I have this excuse, that one of 
the dictionary me^mings of the W^elsh '*mo" i« 
jHorc of. However^ this error does not atfect my 
main contention, that the W^elsh version, stating 
clearly that the wine ha<l run ahort^ is more ex* 
pressive than the English, in which it is at least 
doubtful whether there Ijtui been any wine originally 
provided. Sioma admits that the Wethh is leas 
vagne. My object now is to point out two in- 


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tftanc<?3, in the next chapter (S. John iii.)j where the 
English and Welnh are strikingly difi'erent ; tlie 
difference being, in my opinion, in favour of the 
latter. Verse 16^ " Thnt whosoever believeth in him 
fihonld not perish, but have everlastinf^ life/' The 
words *^ but have everlasting life " are thus rendered 
in the Welsh : " ond caffael o fwno fy wyd tmg)^- 
^ddol/' the meaning of the latter being ** but 
ohlain frovi liim eternal Hfe/' The diflerence is 
lilo€t important^ Again, in verso 33 (English), 
*'that God is inxc"; (Welsh), ** mai gcirtmr yw 
Duw" (that God i"* iniih- »j)eaHnfj or truthful, 
literaUy true in word). The difference here is of 
special iinportance, as i^eeeh is referred to in the 
innuediate context : indeed in the very next verse 
occurs the expression (English) ** speaketh the 
words of God. * I observe that in the Luther 
Bible the word " wahrhaftig '* (tntthful) is used 
for the Bnglish true. It itppeara to me that the 
English word is more genertd — not to say vague 
— toan either the Germnn or Welsh, and not 
nearly so expressive in relation to the context tm 
thektter. M. H. K. 

*'R«/ji?rALD Trevor: a Tale,'' &c., by Ed- 
ward Trevor Anwtl (4i*» S. viiu 327, 462 ; 5^ 
S. I SC, 413.) — On'iiAR Hamst has overlooked 
that jjuvrt of the note of Cymro am Btth in which 
Ihe writer remiirks that " Anwyl ■* is a Welsh aur- 
QAfne as well as an adjective. The Cambrian 
Quarttrltf Magazine for April, 1829, in a review 
of "Reginald Trevor," speaks of the author as 
** Mr. Anwyl,^' and the author, in tliat name, dedi- 
e*te« the work to Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, 
Youp anagram matie correspondent does not think 
the word Anwyl euphonioiLs ; he Ims never heard 
fi WeUh mother, in caressing her baby, call it 
** Anwyl biich," or he would perhaps alter his 
opinion. He is puzzled mth the signature " Cyitiro 
Am Byth,'* and fears there may be some hidden 
meaning in it. If he will refer to the ULigazines 
af the day, he will find " Cymry am By th " as a 
motto^ under the trade-mark (a goat) of the Ruthin 
Soda Water Works ; and the meaning of the 
one is " Welshman," and of the other ** Welshmen 
for ever I" Anwyl, as a surname, is not nncomraon 
in North Wales : tht? Anwyls of Bahi are the de- 
scendants of Evan Lloyd, a friend of ChurchiU, 
Wilkes, and Garrick, and who wrote The Mtiho- 
dut^ The Foicers of Hit Fen, and other poems. 

A. R. 

Crocfwyliui, Oswetiry. 

**Anw7l Biich" ^little dear; "Deux AnwyF' 
=rgoi>d God ! a common expletive, "deax** being 
corrupted WeUh« 

I aiu " V d that :iJiy fioubt should exist as 

tn thi proper name, I have often p<ud 

tJiir) i" n tIi Anwyl, who formerly kept a grocer's 
Ahop in Belgmvia, and waji n tax-gatherer as weU ; 

and having just opened The Itoyfal Red Book for 
1B68, 1 find the name there also, 

W. J. Bernhard Smith. 

Arms or Miloate : Radclipfe Family (5*** 
S. i. 227, 374.) — After much careful study and in- 
vestigation of this point, 1 have come to the con- 
clusion that there can be but little doubt of thi-* 
ancient family of Raduliffe being at the present 
time directly represented in the male line by Mr. 
Etidcliffe of Foxdentott Hall, in the county of Lan- 1 
CBLSten Why his coat of arms is differenced by a I 
label, I am unable to say, representing as he does! 
the main stem. There are three families at the 
present day bearing that time-honoured nanie^ 
whose arms are underneath described : — 

L Raddifle of Foxdenton arms : Argent, two 
bends engrailed, sable, over all a label of three 
points, gules ; crest, a bull's head erased, sable, i 
ducsdiy gorged and chained, azure ; motto, ^*Caen> < 
Cresai, Calais/' In addition to Foxdenton, this 
family hius extensive estates in the county of Dorset. 

2. Radelitle of Rudding Park, Yorkshire, now 
represented by Sir Percival Radcliie, Bart. Arm:!, 
argent, a bend engrailed, sable, charged with a 
crescent of the field for diilerence ; crest, as that 
of Foxdenton ; motto, " Virtus propter se." The 
name of the first baronet was originally Joseph 
Pickford, Esc[.y who, in consequence of the eminent 
services he rendered to Government in supprrHsin^l 
the Ludditc disturbances, was so created, with the 
singular honour of a gratuitous patent. He died 
in lbl9. 

3. Delmo Ridclitfe, of Hitchin Priory, in the 
county of Hertford- Arms, as Radcltile of Fox- 
denton, aceording to Clutterbuck's Hittonj of 
HerifwdMre, iii., 22 and 23. But Berry p. 
Encyclopedia Hcraldica gives as arms, "argent^ 
a cross crosslet, gules, between two bendlets en- 
grailed, sable ; a label of three points, on a canton 
firgentj a cross crosslet, or/' The original patro- 
nymic of this family was Delm^, and the nameJ 
liadcliffc was added m 1S(>2, on coming into pos*" 
session of property in right of his wife. 

But the arms of Ratcliffe, or RAdcliffe, Earl of 
Sussex in the sixteenth century, were : Argent, 
a fess, engrailed, sable. John Pickpord, M.A, 

Newboume Rectory, Woodbridg«. 

KnglUh Sehoot Ctatticf. Edited by Pranoia Storr, B.A.^ 
Arelwtunt Mftiter at Marlborough CoUege, kc. Cou^peri J 
TatL By Francis Storr, B. A. Scoid Lav qf ikg Lagi I 
Mimtrrf. By J. 8urteet PhiUpotta, M.A , AemsUtit 
Muter in Rugby School, Itc. (RivingtoDsO 
\» . , n; T , . u » may be eonpntu l«t«d on the miknn ^^ r i ti « l , u Ji 
Hng for tchooU a good tnuning in Ki < 
hoot Cfmtict <they will embrace, h^ 
e£iujiieriitcd aboto, the Statom, Bac<mt Estay*, i» <"^(*' 
}(orth'* ExtstrniiH, &c.) ov^bt to find its w»y into Ktoti uul 


[S^S. II.Jct.t4,'7«. 


H&rrow, and aJl our ^eat public ecbooh,, to aay nothing 
of tbo collepea that are sx^iinging up €vervi*here for the 
odac&tion of girls. Wc caDnot but tnink tbAt, were that 
TOeuial tDiining ndopted vkich the etudy of our greateat 
vritert would ussurtidly provide, iar greater and more 
Ufieful reealtfi muat be attained than by dri?ing boys^ 
wLetbcr tliey like it or not, through a courac of cleiraiit 
9cr > )it0. On alt handa it ifl uffiruied now that 

to' in J? attempted ; that, after all, the ttio rough 

kiL I few aubjecta ia of more avail in after-life 

tb.> LterLng intelligiince which id only too often 

pt neloqueucotbbtia offensive by its ignorance. 

T}^ then is evidently Mr. 8 torr* 9 mm, for he 

eu>. acb volume contains enough for otic term's 

nviL. iL uutct} ore Burc, by their freedom from dry- 
neSB, to create an intercft aod rivet attention. 

The Manwxh Cln-'coru>n : a Guide fur tkn Hft^rati and 
IMttnt Ctl'' fiivint Str^ej the Iloi^ Sticra" 

titfftitt, atiiJ of i/u Church. Edited by the 

Rev, P. G. Ltc. L'A^L., F.aA. {Hogg L Co.) 
Tuts manual, abridged from the Dmctorium Anoli- 
caitnni, will prove ot great teirice to those clergy, lay 
feaders, and choirmastem who find the lawr work out 
of th< ir reaeb. Dr. Lee is ao well known lor his great 
knowledge uf tboae ancient ritual airangemcnta Vkhich 
arc gradually being revived, that it would ahuost at&m 
pre«urnptioii to critidxe anythirt^r thnt he may tay on the 
fiubjeet ; vsc will, tbcrcfi^ "iitentcd wiih cun- 

gratulating our letinied < iit> not only on tho 

method «iud atyle of lii^ L.„. ,...., Lut ab*o on the very 
exhaustive manner in which each acrvicc, oj to its 
ritual arrjiTipemrnti?, i* treated. Rec^tir?*- nin§t be had 
to the / ' ' <Ied, for 

thei^in . nlficient 

reason tl : ^ ,^ it in a 

couveuieni purtAble IWiu, ajjd i' ^ 'ie price. We 

xituBt not omit to add that the ,1 : urnisbed ^ith 

an &diuira1jle glo&sary ; and it ia itoc i <o iiiucb to aay that, 
without the help thus ntforded, it would bnAc bcco, to a 
gi'eat extent, tinintelligiblc to tho*c not pretending to a 
very deep knowledge of the fiubject. 

Mai trials for tJi4 Hutory ^f ihi A thj^ian^ DonoeriKy /V*0*n 

Hiii*iiv to PtricUi, Collected from Ancient Authors. 

lly T. Case, M.A., Late Fellow of BragGuo«o CuUege, 

Oxford. ( Parker & Co.) 

Clak^ical authors may find in thi$ pamphlet m&teriat 

whereon tr> fowiid mnny chnptera. The authorities cited 

are in C 3 i Led to a certain period, are 

very co 1 1 uf i>olcu, and thij: chang:ea 

made by '.„-;,,-__ „ . ^'.^^^i, form the main ba^ia of 

ficverjd injportaut t^uotatioua. V'oting ly lot 16 placed 
before iW a.c, and is »bown to have trGcn generally, but 
not nccedoarily^ dumocmtic. *'* Litenc Humaniores " and 
•* TriptJ« " men may peroae Mr. C&m'b collection with 

Slori€* from JfrrodotuSj in Attic Ureel : 1* iitory of 
Hhanipfinitus ; 2. Tli€ liattk <t/ Maruthmu Adapted 
by J. t5urteen Phillpotta, M.A., Aisiatant-Master in 
Biigby i^chwd, and formerly Fdlow of New College, 
Ox lord. (RivingtonB.) 
Aftkh aecond thoughts few critics will find fault when 
thev «*© the revcr'-d Hcrodotu? turned )uu.* Atti<» Gr«?^k 

M^ ^ ■■■ 


ti>^'- --.-■- ' -- -- , - , 

very iM^id piugictis. 1«:l nut (<> lie Ui^ught it is to be 

deprived of much cla»fiical grownd-work. How i» it to be 

mrv- ' .... .^ -.-.■-■. . ....;. ..^^ 

At: CO 

rtu I — ' ' ■, ' _. ■ ■■ a. 

actUixig iui^tii thAU " lii^'udvlu^uiiuk 4?A*y " u wauted 

—a comparative knowledge of dialects had to be gained* 
The author of iiticcUoTLS /rowk Ximophoii, SrUcfioriA frmn 
Arrmn,^ Notu qj^ the ** Lay of (hf Latt J h'tny 

and VomfnoH^e&klth, has, in SttfHa/rom pre- 

pr"''^' '""'lie schools ivith a book which mn viji.uLirago 
1 :. and acholara in an arduous taak— begimuog 

TJie Ilrraid and Genealooitt. Edited by John Gough 
Nichola, F.S.A- Parta XLVIL, XLVIll. (Nichola k 
Wk intend no di«re&f)ect to other labourers in that iidd 
of antiquarian literature which the late Mr. John Gough 
Kichvls had made »o ptcuiiarly his own wben we e;tpreia 
our conviction that it has been wiaely dotermiued that 
the Ucrald r ' '' '^yijti, of which he was the origi- 
nator, Bhoul< > Lo a cloie now that ho by whom it 
had been ao conducted htu^ gone Ut his ro^L 
Not less judiciuu^ ixud becoming ia it, that the la«9t nuti^ber 
of tliat journal should contain a memoir of its accom- 
plitihed editor, written by a loving hand, in which are to 
!>e found not only a full and det;iiled account ol the 
numerous literary, historical, and ;[:cnea!f>}z:fcri! norksifor 
which the World are indebtt 1 Itdgo 
and untiring industry of Mr i^^t 

aliufiioiis to the frieuda and t^ ... .....i ... .i, was 

often cloisely associated, and many ^iimfifiea ot timt antiable 
character which distinguish^'d him in all hh domfsttc 
relations. Mr. Nichols' " ' ' 'sltkc 

of all folae pretences, <> or 

three of the shorter nui , ^t^nt 

work, the last which h«:rckldic Atudtiiis aio duetuicd to 
receive from the feitrleaj and independent pen of John 
Gough Nichols. 


PartieoJftri of Pri««, Ac, of lh« fallowlug buok to b« mhI dinot to 
the ix^TvoD hy trbom it u n»jL(iired, wlM>i« tuune &ud oddivM are 

pKTVntjof ThtviiLt u&D»lat*d f r^tm U>c Gtrtu&Q of 1I«ZU7 U«la«:tj 

>Vaul«d by £dmard t4t»twJ(, BoiUmtotd afaaor, Ji^igs* , 

Hatiai to Carrr^iianlifntil. 

Ovn Correspond EWT8 mil, xre u-wi, txaue ottr t^ 

fftsting t(^ ihem, loth for ih^r .iakes v-- - ' ■ - "nr gwn — 

That thty should write dtarly <x /—and on 

one aide of the paper only — mart «/; , > r names 

ajTit/ wordj and phrases t>/ %ihich k ■ v if 

rtffuircd. We cannot vndrrtake to j r'or- 
rtipohdaxi itoit Hot tAM vorih tk^ w-/- -i^ ^v ,^ttUnff 

U. £, S. K. — '' At sUea and sevens '* Ib a phrase In The 
Widou\ Act i. *c. 2 (ltJ62), n piece by Jonaon, Fktchor, 
and Middleton. It became a popular phFaee Co denote 
confuiion. It wa^, bowovtir, of earlier datL-, hit iUderi* 
vatton haa never been aatistactorily accounted (or. 

A FoBEionRR.— The pres&ca you apeak of are rarely 
emccessfuL Tbo Work reouired would be done more aatit- 
foctorily and economically by any respectable phfiter. 

Editorial Communlcationi should bo addressed to " The 
*" "" I " — Advcrtieemenbi and Bupiooss Lett«xrs to " The 
er *'— at the Office, 20, Wellington Street, ytnwid, 

I,, \r.c. 

\Vt- beg leave to etate thut we decline to return com- 
munications which, for any rciiAon, vm do not print p and 
to Ihia rule we can r ' - — ■ 

To all commaniL nivme nnd 

address of the eenrj ^ ^tion, but 

as ft gttonuitoe of good Wkih, 


iP> 8. II Jdlt 11, 71] 



JtOMiMli^ SATU&UA r, JUL y 11* lis:*. 

CaNTENTS,— »• 28* 

irivn^ :— AtKhof Pftfiittr of Worcc-terihlM, 81— \ Picture 
a*l . tl TiU«i of liouor/' 

Ji) Lord CornwaliU — 

Bull— V ^iLiAn^^* IrVi^yipfi - l.uiti ou a daa'i>UI, 2&-^rJi« 

^ITKK I lander* or ZltijMn^ 26— Cipiy 

*< . . ^ rtio Jiid^e« Oft Circull -Qati«n 

At I MArkborough. 27 — '* Y«nge 

MxUiUj' ' — " rb'-: Uonny HanAv of i*lrlie " — Fruncb 
]llaii4>Miu-|«i—TltiUra Abtny-Mri KlUnhelb Moatigu — 
Ki'liittti ^b'K.v York* — ,\ Caaterbiio' roim'liina— Henry 
jAtSH* ttelUr«-^To» Htif ' Torpple/' of LnciioQ— Mr«. J. A 
8«i||f«lttt— '■ Muttir'-JutiAtb^a £a«r»rai. Of Americ*^ 2& 

•"REPfJES :— SpftlUojt Rrfrtrm*, '?9— Hjilpli do Ckkbham: M*ry 
lie K^im. SO— Hyror) : W ychorK^f — *' '!>»« ftt %ht Hirihuiigbt 

B«tt. " *[<-- . Hi — ' PrfsLi f J ihn iiiid tiic Arms of iho Sua of 



vi : 



isia— " The <jiarr of their 

-I bo Swift t«railj, S3— 

lir hc^lool for i^CAud^l " — 

• Hu'libfM '—Krglator of Jo**— Heraldic— 

^ wnti (^iMwera — Ibe " JttCDbiu" — La Viho- 

JoLUttio Drury C^aoc," 36— Bttd4— The 

; —" M\'i" — Arltbtot'tic : U«fitlng out 

i>f Wi^tnore—'* VVhek"— Prlnccji of 

-ii»e l)»eof inverted CoQimas — liMC itnd 

.t -T)i« [NipuUtkoD Two UuudrtKl Ymin Ago 

I iMirt in *' VuiiHiia," 37—'* Ue»ler**— Ui^by, 

' Wont* in 174ld— Po«U uid Prapor Namei— 

lUneko JUiiera, ^ -Puot Scotut— Meraiulc— 

aSolm on Booki^ ifcc 


My attention has latdy be^n dniwn to the 
nestton of the origin of the Archer family of 
'arbo4oG8 in the seventeenth century from htLring 
!cn a work on thi« »urnj«ne, which, although a 
;^uule to inquirers, is, nevertheleftSj em- 
\ug from the recurrence of misprint or 
10*1 trrora, which might have been obviated hy 
sltj^htest effort in the correction of the proof 
ihect*. In this work, althou<?h frequent suggea- 
iom are thrown out in favour of the Worcester- 
IbLfc origin of this family, it i» evident that the 
or hud a preference for Suti'olk. A careful 
sin of the contents, howei'er, ftnd collution 
other nourcea of information, will» I think, 
thai th4:^v*i were Archers in Barbadoes from 
ik, and Lincoln, but tbit Edward 
umI there in IH93, was none of those, 
I wti* li a iliritinct and Worcestershire origin. 1 
^e\) <\*^-!>rt> how little rcliAocc can be placed on 
I triMp yet, to a certiiin extent, they 

due m tdnefl. The descendants of 
Archer svre at ill to be found, not only 
€a« bat in Jamtiicar where two of hi» 
' ' ' '""I, In both branches 

ig the lup^e of time 


that their English progenitors were BojaliatB, and 
of Uinber&lade descent ; and this, too, in CiMoe of 
the facts that Sir John Archer of the Be Boys, or 
E^ex, fumily was himself in Barbadoes, and tb&t 
he hiid relatives in Jamaica in the seventeenth 
century, and ihey still trea-sur»> an heirloom trana- 
luitted from generation to generation, whicli would 
deem to strengthen the fir^t part of the tradition^ 
viz., a locket set in gold of the period, contaiauag 
a portrait of Charles 1. reading I 

That the Worcestershire Archer? were Royaliati 
there can be no doubt ; tlie children of Edward 
A rchcr of Hanley Castle^ eldest son of John Archer, 
of WelLuid, by his wife Eleanor, daughter of 
Richard Frewen of Hanky Castle, were di»- 
posscssed of their estate.^ by CrorawelJ. We find, 
about 1652, '' William Archer and William Walter 
petitioning; on behalf of the children, hiing miTwrg. 
Thomas, George, and Anne, of the late Edward 
Archer of Hanley Castle." There h no mention 
of his elder children in this petition ; they, no 
doubt, had equally incurred the Profcector'» dil- 
ple^isure, ThomaA, George, and Anne, being 
minora, might be presumed to be gtiiltleds of 
politiciil sj^mpathies. Theae WeUand Archers 
appear to have broken up entirely about lG-19, 
and to have dispersed in all directions, their large 
possessions pacing into the handa of their Crom- 
well ite neighbours —the Lechmeres and others. 
Presumably, the Frewens — maternal ancestors of 
Edwiird of Hanley— were also Royalists, for we 
Hud them settled in Barbadoes at tlie same period 
as Edward Archer of 1GJ)3, aa well as the Thornes, 
Moo res, and other familiee, with whom the Wel- 
land Archers had intermarried. It is a curious 
and suggestive fact that the first Barbadian an- 
cestor of Edward Archer of 1693 called hh estates 
"Cleobury," »*01dbury," and '^Gretton." Now, 
if we refer to Dugdale's " Pedigrees of Archers of 
Umberilatle/* we find that Thomas le Archer — 
Edward III,— married Margarita, daughter of 

Clebnrie, and Rowland Archer of Uniber- 

alade quartered the arms of the Mortimer-Cleburie 
family. Again, Old bury is a town in Worcester- 
shire. I cannot but think Uiat a deep signihcance 
lies in the Jiames chosen by thia branch of 
Barbadian Archers for the litst properties held by 
them in the land of their exile. They would eerve^ 
not only to keep alive the cherished memory of the 
mother country, but act as landmarks to their 
posterity, showing the liru of Umberslade from 
which they derived, as in the case of Cleoburic, 
and their Worcester origin from OUHtuTif. Taking 
all these circumstances together, I think 1 atn 
justified in my preference for a Worcester instead 
of a Suffolk descent for Edwjird Archer of Bar- 

TV ' I Ht Archen mcjit* - " tV V. ridi 
R. Barbadoes in i. 



16* 8. II. Jin.T 11, 74. 

Nicholas Arclier of Huatropp, co. Lincoln, iind 
of ^* foreign p**," His wiU is recordetl in London. 
Sons, Richard Leon (qj. cont. Leonani), NtcholaSy 
and Christ&phcr, That they were ulso Crotuwellites 
and Piiritansj I think we may infer from the bap- 
tismal names of their children, when we consider 
the mania, at that period, for Biblical apfxjllations 
among the followers of the Protector. Kathaniel, 
Joseph, Joshua, and Peter, are the Christian 
names we find bestowed on the offspring of these 
early Archers, and they were perpetuated in their 
descendants. The name of Edward appears but 
once amongst them ; one Peter Archer, grandson 
of Leonard, called his son by this name, but he 
was born in 1703, ten years after the death of 
Edivard Archer of 161>3. 

It is morally impossible that the latter could be 
descended from eitherof the three brothers, liirjinrd^ 
Leonurd^ or Nichohu, since the only uiember of 
their respective families who bore the name of 
Edward was born after his deniise. 

At the present time, baptismal designations 
kive no signitication ; it was not thus, however, 
in the days of our forefathers. Let us, then, turn 
from these Lincoln Archers to Edwar^i Archer, of 
IG93, and his descendants. In no single instance 
do we find a Seriptund name them, but 
in their stead wo do find the baptismal names 
borne for centuries by the Umbers lade Archerv — 
Thomas^ Edwixrd, Rohert^ John^ and William — 
names, moreover, borne by the sons of John 
Archer of Wetland, from whom I ckim descent 
for Edward Archer, who died in Btubadoes in 
1693, either through his eldest son, Edward, of 
Hanley Castle, or through Robert, a younger son, 
born 1016. We know that tlie formers eldest son, 
John, was in " foreign p** " (see Nosh) ; it is 
possible, nay, probable, that his other " dispos- 
sessed '^ elder sons were also emignmts, Edward, 
of Hanley Castle, was born June, 16tH\ Allowing 
thirty years for a genenitioa, Edward Archer, of 
Barbadoes, might dearly have been his son ; were 
he born about 1630, he would only have been 
sixty-three at the time of his death in 1693. That 
some members of the Worcestershire Archers did 
emigrate is an undoubted fact ; for among the 
wills of Archers in *^ foreign p** '" we find those of 
** John of Worcester," Humphrey Archer, &c* 
The former, I presume, was the son of Edward of 
Hanley. I :im more disposed, however, to think 
that Edward Archer of Barbadoes wa^ the son of 
the younger brother, Robert, son of John Archer of 
Welland and Eleanor Frewen of Hanley. 

Robert Archer w.oa baptized at Hanley, April, 
1616. He married Anne Skinner of Ledbury, and 
waa the father of many children. His son Robert 
was " Parson of Casde- Morton " : he married, 
1677, Hannah Moore, daiUghtcr of Edward Moore 
of Suckloy Court. Two short tabulations will 
show more clearly than I am do by words my 

reason for believing that this younger Robert 
a brother of Edward of Barbadoes. That Edwar 
Archer's father was named Robert, I myseij 
believe, though I readily admit that my reason 
for this preference will not satisfy genealogists i 
but, in the absence of pmof, let the following fa< 
weigh for what it is worth. IHiring the hiirricanflj 
of 1831, in common with many other ancien* 
mansions of the old settlers (or " Planters," 
they were called), the ancestral honie of thl^ 
branch of the Barbadian Archere was destroyed j 
beneath the foundation-stone was found, by M 
Edwartl Archer (the owner), an exquisite porceku 
cup, on which were the initials R. A. in gold. 
is nccefi.sary to explain that Mr, Edward Arch^ 
waa innocent of all genealogical precise inforn 
tion, and, like many othci-t?, merely relied on 
fniuily tradition, without any misgiving, and, 
the same time, without any interest in sue 

K. C, 

=iKobert Archer, aon of=ATine 


John Archer nud Elea- 
nor Frewen, b. Ifilti. 


I ia77. 

The R€V. Rol>ett A r-^* Hannah, da ugh. of 
c her, Parson of Caatlo I Edw, Moore ol Suck- 
Mcirtoa. | ley Court. 

1 (~~" i i M I r. 

Timothy. Edward. jElimheth, Hannah, Oihec< 

name of hU oh. an childr 

brother's infant. nHniea.<j 

wife. unknown 

Edward Archer of— f Elisabeth, 
Barbftdocfl, ob. 101(5. j 

dii in- 




^Hftnnah,= — Aahtt 


called ai^ter 

his brother 't 





It may be interesting to compare with fion 
recent picture sales the results of a sale by auctia 
of tho collection of* Sir Luke Schanb, which tc>oJ 
phice on 26th, 27th, and 28th April, 1758. 
three days' side comprised 118 lot^, and the su^ 
realiined was 7,784/, ha. Out of the 118 lots, 
recorded in the QentJnnan^ji Magazine^ vol. xxvi 
p. 225, &c. (1758), I &hall select, the names of iiboa 
forty works of the most celebrated masters, with t' 
prices and purchtisers :— 

FtrH Pa^*t Snit' 
Lot 9. W. yandeTelde--A calm, U 15#. (StL 
chaser, Goremor Saunders. 

Lot 10, KujjH-A landscape Willi rocks, ^L Of. Pur- 
chascri FitzwiUiami* 




L«i 11. Oitade— A kndic^po and figures, 7/. 17i. C^. 
i PtttctiAMr, Mr Cimptjini. 

Lol 14 CK Fjor&in— A li&Tid«eBpe and flgtires, 105/. 
f PttrrbMcf, DucUess of PortJand. 

IM 17. J Hiifi«»i)0— A Holy F&mllj, 13/. 2t, 6dL Piir- 

, 1 •■ 1 Low— Soldiers, Ac, 17/. 17i. PurchMcr, 

Li i _ .. . cronese— A woiniui*B head, 12/. 12f. Pur- 
f cbs^r, Mr* Vcmoii. 

Lot 25. Domeoko— 8L Barb«, &$/. 16«. Furcbaser, 
[ BicUiiril Grasvenor 

L«i 3^, Fr. Mierii-Boy with a jug> amdl onl, e/. lOi. 
[ Purcb4»«r, Mr. Stetntrd. 

f L(>e Rd. P. Potter— A 1iiQd«c&pe and figurei, lU. (hM. 
I FiiT<!h»«pr, Mr, Reynolds 

L< ' ' * " I no — 8 1 . Catherine, 42L Purcbater, 

>t .n— A ileeping Yonuf, 18/* 7*. 6</. Pur* 

•r. Mi. Mufterson. 

L 61 Gt»ercino~8t. Sebastian, 54L I2t. Purcbaaer, 
I Cottpcr. 

Lot &4. Giordano— A elecping Venu« vitb Cupids 

I MtUftiling, 11/. 11*. ParcliMcr, Mr IJolditcb 

I ^ Lot r<5. RubenB— A Und^cupc with Our Saviour bc&l- 

I inij the lame, 79/. Ifu. Purcljoser, Duclican of Portland. 

Lot 5Q. Correggir^—^igUuiunda weeping over the beart 

«f Titnered, 104/. 6i. Purcba^er, Sir T. tiejibrigbt. 

Second Days Sale, 
Lot 8. D. Teta»que2 — An old wonum'i bcad^ 3 qrf., 
ItiL 13*. 6(/. Purcbaaer, Mr. Dulton. 
I Lot 11, Holbein— A woman's bead, S qn., 2/< 2i. 
I Pq rebuke r, H. Poi, E-«q. 

Lot \2. M. A, CarftTa^frio — A man playing on a flute, 
It 7#* Purchaser, Mrs. Child. 

Jk>t 25 Albert DUrer— A cracifixion, 15/. 15j. Pur- 
r Saunders, 
i -A Dutch lady at ber toilet, 22/. lU U. 

^^e.^ nevr, figures by CanMci, 6^. 2<. 
c if Portland. 
J He tiihraudt— Admiral Euyter, 16/. 5f. 6c/. 
f Pureba#«r, Mr. Steward, 

Lot £0. Ann. Caracci- Venus at ber toilet, 63/. Pur- 
<liaaar. Lord Cowper. 

Lot 51. Guido — Our Saviour asleep and the Virgin 
'vwtehing OYcr bim, 32S/. VU. Purcbascr, Richard QroB* 

Lot 62. P. de Cortona-^Rinaldo ftnd Armida» 2SL 2t. 
I Pnrchaier, Admiral Knowles. 

Ltit fiJ. VatidTke— Virgin, Jesos asleep ia her lap, 
tSIl/ ' - "-r^ aser. Duchcaa of Portland. 

L* ers— Boon at Cardt, 85/, If, PurcbsAer, 

|lii>r.i !i. 

Third Dayt Sale, 
Lot 4. Sir P. Ldy— Due head of Port«moatb, 3 qra., 
1-4/. 7*. H/i. Ptifcbiser^ Richard GrosTenor 
] Lot UK Watteau- A landscape fluid figures, 9/. 9i, 
pParcba«er, GoTem or Saunders. 

Lot 11. .Tordaens— Man piping, children about bim, 
\ 5f Pufcl^Mcr* Lord Byron. 

vl ' '' ul—J(ympbs bathing, 4/. 4i. Porchaser, 


lisaln— A landscape and fignrcij 67/. ISt. 
[tclia^r, ^ Rust. Esq. 

tS. K. PouBsin—tts companion, 23/, 2^ Pui^ 
' ' ■ n*on, 

overmans— A TiUage camiTa), SI/, lOs, 
ei , niiergutcb. 

4^5. L* Ufun— Departure of Rinaldo fhrtii Armida^ 
. lOj. Piscbaseri Lord Anion. 

Lot 44. Rigaud— Cardinal Dubois, balf-le&gtb, 33/, I2#. 
Purchaser, Mr. Tbompson, 

Lot 40, MurUlo— Beggars, 32/, 11#. PorcbaMr, Richard 

Lot 52. Carlo Maratti— A Holy Family, 33/, 1*, U, 
Purchaser, Vaodergutch. 

Lot 60. Raphael— A Inrge and capital picture of a 
Holy Family, 703/, 10*. Purchaser, Ducheaa of Porthind. 

The krpeat purchasers at the sale were (1) the 
Durhes.^ of Portliinrl, who secured fourteen pictiiTOi, 
119 folio WB :— CL Lorain, 105/. ; Rembrandt, 32/. 1 U.; 
BamboGcio, 21/. ; ElshcimeT, 171. lis. ; Guido, 
157f, 10^. i Kul^ens, 79/. 16«,; Vandyke, 126/.; 
P, Brill, 65/. 2.<f. ; Yaindyke, 21 U. 1*,; View of 
Antwerp by P. Brill, Rubens, GillisT and Brueghel, 
551/, 5*. ; Titian, 43i, 1*.; Eli/,. Siratii, 23/, 2*, ; 
Tintoret, 66/, 3s. \ Raphael, 703/. 10*. — Total, 
2,202f. l&r. (2) Richard (first Eiu-l) Gro^jvenor, 
Beventeen pictures, ^c: — Oescentia, 1(»/, lOi, ; 
Domenico, 58/, 16*.; Jordaens, 16/. 5j. 6<i, ; 
F, Laura, 36?. 15*,; nn antique bronze, 42/.; 
Guido, 328/. 13*.; Sir P. Ltdy, 4L 7$. firf.; 
P, Veronese, 79/. 16«. ; Holltein, 3/. 3*,; Do., 
3/. 13^, Gd. ; Polydore, 36/. 15*, ; Rubens, 25/. 4<. ; 
Borgo^rnone, 23/, 2*.; F, Bassano, 115/, 10*.; 
Murillo, 32/, lU. ; Tenier^, 157/, IOj. ; Le Bnin, 
127/,— Total, 1,101/, 11^. 6d (3) Sir J, Seabrigbt, 
A, Corre^gio, 404/, r»#. .(4) Governor Saunders, 
fourteen picture* : — Antolinl, 7/. 15^. ; Vandevelde, 
5/. 15«, 6t/, ; Badddocio, 15/, 15*.; Gentilesehi, 
44/. 2.1. : Albert Durer, 15/ 15*.; A. Kuyp, 
26/. 15«. 6rf, ; HubcDR, 28/. 17s, Qd. ; Bo., 15^ 15*.; 
Gofredy, 6/. 6s.; Wutteau, 8/. 18s, (3^ ; I>0., 
9/. 9*,; Sal. Ros,i, 7/, 7#,; Do., 4/. 4s,; Rotteu- 
hamer, 16/, 5s. 6d.— Total, 213/. Os. 6</. 

S. H. Harlowe, 

St. John's Wocd. 


This interesting work was written to show the 
real value of foreign titles of nobility (some of 
wbicb were purchasable at the moderate figure of 
30/, [), and to di&abuse tbe minds of the ordinary 
class of travelling Britona of the idea that Con- 
tinental Counts and Barons are on a par irith our 
Earls and Barons, and therefore superior to BaroneU 
and tbe nobiles minora of Great Britain, the fact 
being tbat tbe majority of these titled gentlemen 
can scarcely be considered equal in rank to our 
Esquires, The following conclusions, drawn by 
tbe author from his arguments and faotc^ are 
wortby of a place in tbe Peerages, Baronetages, 
and other works of a similar character: — 

*' 1. That, notwithstanding the pofialar distinction 
between Ni»bility and Gentry, no one who goes abroad 
and *eho rtalU belong* to thi nobiUt minoru of Elngland, 
should deny thit be is Noble, 

** II, That it ii a Tulgar error* to suppose that a 
Commoaer may not ba Noble. 

* ConclujiTely proTed by tbe fact tbat all Uie sons of 
Peers (iu their ktberf' Ufetime), thou^b by courteqr 



[6^8, n ,JITiTn|7i; 

** in, Tliftt the three ftr«t title* of the Ppcrftpe being 
Princely ilignitie* and the two |ft*t of hijfb NobiHty. no 
Engltehm&n should on the Continent ftddren a Prer ba 
M. L© Coint©, or M. Le B&ron; for these are, there* 
titles nf low Nobtlily. 

'♦IV, That, in order to diacorer whether a foret^ 
Nobleman mny runk with our Prers, we should jfinti out 
whether he \t the chuf of kin fomtitf ; utid whether hii 
anc'cttori had a rittht of fi$T€dilury evi&t in the Diet of his 
country ; or whether he ri.ay be, in any other wny, moked 
am^^nitet tte hi^h Nubility. 

*• V, That there ia a marked dtffcrence between the 
Britiah Jcreer Nobility {or Gentry) an-l that of Germany, 
Tia., tbut the Britiah le«.*^er Nobility hftvc been from time 
Imiuemoriat called iVc^MYit in LmIiu; tb^t they hnte 
alwaji bad lb ri|$bt to nh and be reprenented in Parlia- 
ij>ent ; and that they miyht intonuarry with the hj«h 
Nobility^ iind oven with the blo^d Royal; wh^reii« the 
teiser Nobility of the Etnpiro were n^-t called yuhtlt* 
before the fi^iurteenth century- nor cou'd they sit or be 
represented in the Diet, imr could they marry i\itb the 
high Nobility, nor the b!o<»d Kmal of their country, 

*'VL That the only Couiit^ who coutd formerly be 
nunked with nur Prerugo were the Counts of the 
Empire, icilh right of teat ; and these ure now ulniost all 
titulux Prtnceii. Atio that the only Continental Bi^rin 
who could rank with a British Bartm i^as tbe old tierman 
Dynasty Baron, who hm long ceawd to exii^t* 

** Vlf, That a Bntiah Baronet haa^ at leaftt, a ripht to 
rank wiih a titular Count, or Grave, of Germciny, «*« 
may bt chief of kit family ^i and above all those whw may 
sot be so. 

•• VIIL That a British Esqnire who ia chiefof afumily, 
the head of which fonnerly held a Manor immedi<it4;ty, 
without bcim; a Peer of Purlinment, may rank with en 
immediate Bttron of the Ettipirc, f^ho is head of hu 
Bouse, and whose unccstor bad no right to a »eat in the 
Diet of hie country. 

''^ IX, That a British Esoutro, who it rcprraentJttlTe af 
a family which fomtrly htid a Kilght'a-fee imini diately, 
may rank with mi immediate Kiiight of the Empire, 
who may be alio chief of his family. 

" X. That Barons by puteut mast rank with our 
Esquires bv patent. 

" That the ' EdUnton * must rank with our^ntlemen 
bearing arms. 

*• XL That the common 'von' (deHyed from official 
situation), or ' dt,' must t© conndend to give Nobiliiy 
equiraleut to Ibatof those persons in En>zla^d who ar*c 
Eii(]U]reB, or Gentlemen, by prfifc«9ion»uffic4\4c., aUbouj^h 
9ome of ihem may hare precedence of Getitlemen of 

Lord Wkllssi^ey and Lord Cornwallts. — 
In the rec^ntly-ptublisbed correspondeDco of Lord 
Ellenborongh (p. 172), th^re in a iiienioTandura by 
Lord Welledey containin|j an extmordinaiy mift* 
stvtement about Lord CorDwaLlis. 

Lord Wellealey 8»tb that, in 1797, Lord Com- 
wnllis was a poor old maiij with one foot in the 
grave. So far ia this from the truth, that, at the 
time la question. Lord Cornwania bad just been 
appointed both Lord- Lie ut<?Dant and Commander 

matiy of them are Lords, m well as the Baronete, are 
commontTi, i.*.. only entithd to sit or be represented in 
the House of Commomf, 

t *• Younger sons i»f Foroipn NobllitT mntt tank with 
younger sons of Euglish Nobility of equal grade." 

of the Forces in Ireland ; nnd it was suh$tqumil% 
that ho was uppointedf for the second tmiepl 
GoverDor-Generul of India (which did not ti»k« 
eflect)) andf afterwards^ to an important niilitaryl 
command \ and, several ytan later, be wns^ for tbfl 
third time, named^with general approval, Goremor-iJ 
General, and actually succeeded Loxd Welle&ley 

It is true thatf on this lae^t occasion, hiR motiTca 
were partljof a somewhat trivial personal kind, and 
he )ca.i then physicaJJy unfit, but his mind waa a»1 
vigorous lis ever. 

All this may be seen in the excellent Mtmo 
of Lord Comw(dli$^ by Mr. Charles Rosa, 

'Ihe truth of the matter is in the opi>osite direc 
tion. The memorandum was written in JulyJ 
1842, and Lord Wcllchley died in the following 
September. It has but slight traces of the .creafe 
ability which the writer had as a yoimger nian^l 
imd I happen to have bad some perftf>nal Inter 
course with him some time previrius, from which i^l 
was clear that he was not what be had been. His] 
second nppointmentf feTeral ye^irs before, to th 
Irish Lord -Lieu tenancy rather surprised the world, i 
I have no doubt ho either mis-stated the dut^| 
or bad but imperfect recollection of what ha" 
happened forty-fiye years before. LTTTXLToy. 

PoKGATTON BY FiRE.— It may not be «o well 
known to the Etiglisb as to the clasmcal reader J 
that the ordeal so commonly resorted tobyaccu* 
persona in the Middle AgcK, in attestation of tbeis 
innocence, had neither its rise in, nor waa eflpecialJl 
characteristic of, those times. It wa« known nnd 
in use centuries before. And thus the 8chob««tl 
upon Sophocles, in tlie Jn^i^Tic^from which (I 
uke the subjoined ilkimtration — says: "Kibil in 
historia notius, quum purgationes, quibuB, adhibito 
SAcrsimento, rei objecta crimina amoliebuntur, 
irmocentium comprobabant/* '* No fact of history ia 
better known or authenticated thun Unit of pvrga'} 
Hony by which^ under solemn appeal to hej^ven^j 
accused persons were accustomed to rebut tha 
charges brought against them, and to as&ert their 
innocence of them." Thus in this play (v4nhywe)| 
the messenger eent to announce loCreon that ►ome 
one had sprinkled dust over the corpse of Poly- 
nioes, offers, on the p«irt of himself and fellow*! 
wiitchers, to undergo this ordeal ns a test of iheiC 
inncHsence and igoornnce of the deed :— 

Hal TTVp ^te/JTTftV, Hal 6'cov9 OpKMfAoTtiVf 

To /ai}t€ Spdirai^ fiyJT€ Tf^» ^rj'cifct'cu 

TO Tpdyaa Bovktvo'avTu tt^nr ci/jyao-iif im 

' U264W. 

"The msii of bnming imii In nur haniU 
We all »* ere i rompt to t»*ke, ro y aiis ibrou^h CfC» 
Tm ra'l tlie gods t*ii wtineAs ^ith firm onth 
We did it nftt, we knew not who dt si^ti'd. 
Or who perform'd the deed.**— i^etter. 

iPF. It. J TOT 11, 74] 



TIlS sdioliast seems to think thnt this mnjhe^ 
, ji^fhiip, th- earliest intimutiun of triiil by orde^U 
that i«c hivve on record, Tlu^y abouistl id wtiat 
I u« caliad ** the Daxk Ages.'' 

Edmusd Tew^ M.A, 

Faratxel Passages. — 

** 1 liii i» tlie jro'den chtin of Jove, whereby the whole 
~~~ia* 11 •# lioijid to the thtotifi of the Cre tor/'^Arch* 
on ili»f^*« tertnon on The Lam uf ^S^lf^Sucrijiee, 
^ An4 f» the whole romid w orJtl is eTerj wav 
BiMjcU l>j gula cbAiuis al»<iut iho .if O.-d," 

Ttntjjftou'i jl/trt r* W Arthur, 

''IfvtlHnlai ii ii heiter that I •honid hnTt nined nwny 

'' ' "V goldene*it years, **h«n 1 hm ihmll fo the 

irii fui er CYfs, of Alice W-^^u^ than thMso 

'ft iMV-e-ft venture Bhould be loat;"— Eiin's 

. kiMj ii*u iVtw Vfar'i Hvt, 

** Tin belter to hftTe foTed a»»d lost 
Thim never to havf lov« d Mt lilL" 

Ttfiifi;soi/t In, Memoriam, 
■ T* •- ^ -* to lore wisely, r«rt doubt; but to love 
I fottt r th»n Dot to' be able to lore at aU/' — 

1 1 1»»'- itJei^nis, chap. vi. vol, i. 

" A» ti»« trombJer satd of big d ce» to love and win it 
Ithe 1ie»i (b'tii|(> to lore and lose u the next bcat.'^-^/'^w- 
dbaaiiy chap, u vot. ii* 

" The Tairu* here. 
So broad and clear, 
Blue» in the clenr tklue nooa — 
And it lies liKb% 
All iilvi r white, 
TJf>der the tilTcr moon I " 
^B4>l>ert SoutUey, quoted in C^tU's Remini* 

** Sllrer nili all ont of the west 
UAdet the siWer moon." 

Song in Tennyson '■ PrUctu, 

^y<i»btrg ran be more unlike than the ■impHcitT nf 
^*^e and the r}chi<eft of Ji bnt-on. *l heir ntv I* b diflV r 
nil cloth and l>rocade/*^Bu8v>eU'ii JL'/« oj Jukn^vtij 
*, toL i., Midone't edition. Ib24. 
' They [Milt' n> pr fc writini^i] wre a fverfrct field of 
Iclotb t f gold. The it; le itfttiff with ^rgevus etabroidtry," 


p f T(» the T«t parallel laar be ad.led the folToiwiflgf :— 

'^ *^it wbii h Prior could afford he kiie«v^ 

but be nsnled the i ullioii tf But >r, 

>it a negli^nt pr>lcLBion, ci^rtaiii ot the 

^ri^klf b«»&<teat of the stamp.'— yuA4«#0A.j 

T«" ^ - -c-r Irish Bull,— In the following 
i>t» leaiderin the Daily News of a, recent 

■' ? two of the Ltt^t Iriub bulls, 
> Iws distirjoubhed a pemonrtLge 

^.: — ^..w .ja ex-Lo^i Mayor of Bublm to 


1 two 

ur fif 
»f|i|iii.n 1 tir ' Mh, w ia> uaa he. n i Jn-zl iKa^M^rfate of 
l#ahlifL The stitiK of the cai togn^ miut bare gotte deep 

ind*fd, for Sir WTli'am d''f3}^Tfd in court that he nevvr 
gi»frfrrd ' more lotf^i^ f ain of mind' than the caricntnrea 
CNUsedbim; ani ii« dcfinfng tl c ntluUte fcverfty ol the 
} iciur^s be complntiicd that 'one imA ert^i^ badf anil 
the other *quaUg worxc ^ ** 


A Strang B Epttafh : — 

** The following cun« ti« interipiffm is ern a fdmbitniie 
m Bidtford chmtshyur J. ro the memory of Cap tafn Beitij 
Cljtrk, of ihat tiMn, who appe rs to hare yit^ded i40 
much to a thusty na'ure, and died in 1886:— 
''Oar worthy fr»end who hew beoeatfa thiftfitooe 
Was maattfr *>( » ve»sel all his f>WfU 
Bouse Nnd l«i»ds hfd be. and gold in stare ;. 
Ue «pent the whD!e, nnd would if ten timet mm^ 
For twtfuty ye*<rB he 6C»irQe «lept In a bed ; 
Linbayn iml limekilna tuiPd hie weary bead 
H' c uie be would n*d to the poordKmse go. 
For hlA proud cpcrit would tioi let hlui to. 
The b'ackbir I'fl wht-tling notes, at break of day, 
Ured to awfike him from his bed of bay« 
Uj»to the bridu'e and quay he then repaired 
To gee what shipping up tbe rher sleer'd* 
Oft in (he week he n»ed to xicw the hay 
To Bce what «bip« were comintr in frotn sea* 
To f^nptrdnt' wives be brooght tbe weldooi* nmwWf 
And ti tbe reiutives of :dl the orewa. 
At Tust -pvtnr Qa'nr CI vrk was tnken ill» 
And carHrd to tbe WMrkhouse 'gaiwt bu iriU f 
But being of this mortal life aaice tired. 
Me lived about a month athd then expired**' 

As tbe aboTe is from a paper edit^ by the B^v. 
Williiim rirwkell, MA,, there can be no doubt. .t« 
to itfi genuioeDesa. IT, 

Lines ok a Sdk-dtal.— Thie fblldwingii i 
one, on a white timrble cross, in Colleton Chtnolt^ 
Devon : — 

** If on th^i dial fUl a rhada the time roddem ; 
Pur, hi ! it piMiMrtb like a dream* 
F^r if it all < e blank, then iitonmihT lost 
Of houri uable?Sid by f badowa ftom tbe cross^^' 

Jony BtJNYAN'R PARBNTAaE,— A* Iwna (by the 
courtesy of tbe vicjir of the parudi) inspecting the 
reifistera of Wootton parish, on. Bedford^hir*^. I 
came across the following entries which evidently 
allude to some of John Bunyan'a aDCCstom; as 
Wootton is not ro very far from ELtaWf — obon^ 
fire miles,— and they may, pcrhafia, aTcatoaUy^ 
Icid (0 the discovery of who were hi« parentis 
they »<lso do away with the supposition of thoM 
who think that John Buoy an may have hud gipsy 
blood in his veins : see TAa ^fero c/ ElsloWf by 
*M.'ime« Copner, M.A./' " Hodder & Stoughion^ 
MDcoct^xxiv,/' p. 20:— 
*' Tbe Beg i^or for Cliristenin^ h borfallt k weddingaa 

made bf Richar 1 li»*ver<>ck Vicare of Wottoo from the 

ft iBt of 8t. >llcbael m the 3 ear of Oar Lord ISSl aa 

following : — 

Oc^iher Inipntnis xx*^ dale waa Chriitcned WUlai. 

>o»©mb«r 15$5 the ix** aie was baptiwd EeiN^ai 
Bunion (tie J 


trie's. I LJcLiii; 

1583 xtUj"" dftie of August waa baptized Kicliard 

1689 Ocf^ xtiiij'*' daie waa inaried Ekhjird Otiion 
(qy. Bunion) At Margaret Jepfon _ 

1591 August xTig'** dale was bAptued William Burjion 
ibe younger 

December 151^3 tbe xrj''' dale was baptised Thomas 

23 Maij 1604 . . . Bunuion ibe soniie of Tbom&B 
buTinion wm buried 

21 Mag 1604 . . , Bunnion the wife of Thomaa 
Buntiliiti wM burkd 

26 Maij 1G04 » . . Bunnion tbe Bonu^ of Tliomaa 
Bunritim wan buried 

15 October 1604 WiUm. Bmmiou k Elisabetb Wright 
wore married 

14 October 1621 Alice y* dAUgbter of Richard Bunoion 
wa^ bjiptlxed 

9 Fi-b ru II rjr 1023-4 Henry y* aonne of Richard Bunnion 
(br Dinah Vavan) was baptized ( *ic) 

17 October 1G25 Wjrdow Bunniou was buried 

September 17 1636 Dina the wife of Eicbard Bunnion 
WM buried 

6 September ]S33 Eicbard Bunnion k Alice Draae 
WPre marie d 

9 January 1644 G Richard Bunnion k Clixabeth 
Nichols were maried/* DuDLEY CaRY Elwes. 

Tub 0*Mulconry. — How few recognitiona Ibei-e 
will be in tbe Swcdenborf^ian Hiwies by supposed 
ftncestora of their supposed descendants I It ijs a 
jiiomnful reflection that so jnuch ingenuity should 
fail. The writer of a recent article in one of tbe 
newspapers* starts with the following observation, 
■whicb I quote chiefly for the reason limt it ixlfordti 
another example of the erroneous use of **ut" 
for ''of':- 

*' There ift no necesalty to aek * Garter Principal King- 
cif-Arms ' or 'Ulster* what is the sii^iJiciitioti of the 
dignily about to bo conferred upon Prince Arthur," 
But the aume writer (relying, perhaps, on Wuller s 
definition of poetrj% when exinining himself to the 
merry inonaTch for a Imd laureate ode, or jierhiips 
being one of those who revere '^ chiiiuj* '' to descent 
from the Counts of Percbcj the Earls of Che5t«r» 
or the patriarcbiil Tbonuia de Brotherton, and blest 
with lliat lurgti faith which is redly so great a 
coiviforfc to many minds) thus continues : — 

'' There is a Baronet livioK in Wales at present — Sir 

John Conroy — whoso lineal arjcestord used to nominate 

the Kings of Conimuffbt. The Conroys are tbe same as 

the Couftires^ and tbe Conaires were culled in the eleventh 

' century the O'Maolconmres, which Engliahmen corrupted 

' ftkto the O'Mukoniies ; and this same huuse^ which has 

[ noiv diifted clean out of Ireland— woe paramount in thht 

province of Connaugbt of which Prince Arthur is to be 


On tumint^ to Burke's Peerage and Baronetage ^ 
J find no re*il reference to any authentic proofs of 
a linejil tiescent. The warranty by Thomas Preston 
of forty-three descents ia worth nothing. Charles 
Corny, b. 1657, seems to be the earlieat reliable 
ancestor, t Again : — 

* Dai Iff Telegraph, Msy 27* 1874. 
rather, bowercr, rely on J( 
I tbe founder of the family. 

f 1 rather, bowercr, rely on John Conroy» bom in 
1701, as '^^' '' - •■ *" 

"Tliuf, if we went by ancient heraldic tradition^ 
would almost ^eem that bis Royal Highness tbe Pri^ 
ought to be making matten straight with tbe O'JdalcoiJ 
otherwise Conroy." 

The value of such old chronicles in proving on 
ancestry would not be c^tiniated by Mb, Plj 
KERTON, Anglo- Scot us, Hermeintrldk, or Tn 
Aik-, as they would bo by the O'Maolconuii 
themsel veis. *^ Ulster "of coun^e does not voucIj { 
the triiBtwortliiness of the old chronicle ; he mer 
refers to it. The liimily itself very probably ri^'hi 
estimates the would-be greatDe«a thrust upon it * 
indiscreet admirers. Again : — 

" But, iu good truth, a live Duke is better than a ( 
Milesian Goiiaire, even though he were one of the ** 1 
Hofitiges/' and Monarch of Ire hind 400 a.d. 

As for ** Niallus Magnus " (a.d. 4fX)), I leare 

to Mr. PlNKERTON. 

My object In drawing attention to tbe article i 
question is to suggest the advisability of separati^ 
general introductory remarks on a Bumame, 
family, from the special pedigree that follows, 
nine cases out of ten, these Celtio and Kor: 
pedigrees that thunder in the index are genera! 
found to be trustworthy only from some sUrtin 
point in the seventeenth century, when Bo-and-a 
grand-son, or great-grandson, b bupposed to turn J 
as So-aod-fto " [jricked high sberitf," or " fined T 
aHerman," who leaves a will from which dates I 
true foundation of the faintly. J S.^ 

A Conjecture. — In Cic., Ep. ad AU. iv. 
we read ** Sed nihil tani pusilhim, nihil ta 
sine voce, nihil tarn verum. Httc tu tecum habet^ 
Ernesti coiifeases that he cannot reconcile *' t4l 
verum" with the rest> It might, perhapss 
altered tliiis :— ** Seti nihil tam puaillum, nil 

tam sine voce, nibil tain Yerum bite tu teen 

babeto." S. T. P.I 

[We must request correspondents desiriDg^ in format] 
on family matters of only private interest, to affix thd 
names and addresiei to their queries, in order ' 
an&weris may be addressed to them dhrect.] 

Family OF Alexander, or Zinzan»— Conne 
with the Court of James I., as Et^ueries and Maj^le 
of Revely, were members of tbe family of Alexand^ 
or Zinmn. Of this family I am desirous to obt 
some information. The first person helongji 
the family whose name occurs in the Public . 
is Robert Alexander, who waa "E^juery 
Stable" to Queen Elizabeth, This person, in 15l3 
was employed by the Queen to convey to ** T 
King of Scotts " certain hordes which she sent hO 

X Gambetta, in his recent funeral oration (f^e Z)ti| 
T*U(pap?t, May 27), se tens to Lave over- rated the i ' 
cestry of his friend the Count 




as II gift. In April, 1594, Robert Alexander 
aod another equeiy named Ilicbartl Monpeasoiif* 
received » royal licenco gmntinfj them and their 
reprt'«ientaTives the aole right of importing *' annis 
Hods and Fumacke " for the spnee of twenty years, 
Atnong the knights dubbed by James I. at White- 
bitll on the 23rd J illy, lfj03, wiis Robert Ale xunder 
Jt^^.^h*.! ji* **of Herts." Sir Robert seems to 
\vi 1 G07t for his son, described a-s ** Ilcnry 

55i(i Alexander/' then received the oflice 

.of ry'* in succession to his father, de- 

Bcr, Sir Robert Zinseun, or Alexanders- 

Henry tvtiviaed Ids office at leiist tOl 1638, for, on 
t^e l«t Muy of that year^ there ia an indenture be- 
en hini and Joseph Zinsm, aliat Alexander, 

ibeii as ** one of hi« sons/' 
Sir Sigismund and Henry Alexander, aliaA 
SSiiuxin* ai'e mentioned by Lsidy Anne Clifforfi as 
roTal eqneries in her description of certain fetes 
which took place in preeencc of Jumes L at 
Omfkon^ the seat of her father, George, Earl of 
Cumbcrhind, in June^ 1603. From 16U8 till 1624, 
th© brothers Alexander^ or Zinzan, received 100/. 
j»er annum **towurdH their charges for running at 
tylte." The ** tyke " was run on the 24th March 
annually. In 1614, Sir Sigismund and Henry 
Alexander receired a special ^rant of 1,(K)0?, 
Vnriou8 other boons were from time to time oon- 
fenvd upon iheni. 
Other members of the family of Zinzan, or Alex- 
l ander, are mentioned in connexion with the Court 
f of King James, Alexi^nder and Andrew ZLnKan, or 
Alf tender, are, in May, 1607, named as "onlinary 
• »f His Majesty 8 stable ; the former died in 
iif-n John Pritchard i^ named a^^ his j»uc- 
-r. Andrew Zinzan is, in April, 16<J7, described 
* of the town of St. AlbiiD and county of Hert- 
llbrd/ M -^irvl in 1624, when he was succeeded 
I by Zinzan, alias Alexander." 

1.,^,. . xi i further reference to members of the 
faonAc till the 2Sth Auguft, 17tl4, when there is 
an inJfnture of thb dat^, relating to certain 
. between ** Peter Zinzjin, alujut jUexander, 
i»^% Berkshire, brother and heir of Henry 
Airjtander, alias Zinziin, late of Tylehurst, and 
Xicbnhu Zinzan, alias Alexander, of London, 
Clerk."" I am desirous of ft.*certaining whether 
, Zin£«n h ki\\{ known as a family name, and also 
lof - origin. It firi^t appears as an alias 

Jtoil r Alexander in 16t)3,and it iscujious 

1 r the royal cqueries who 
'\9, Rtyled by tumiJ " Alex- 
ia a««tT. "r /*rii/-iii liwi *'Zinziin, or Alexander.'* 
I., it hi weU known, was in the liabit of do- 
ing hia favourites by pet names ; but how 
nme of Zinzan should huve been given as an 
nntive to eaeh ei^uery bearing the family 
ue of Alexander 19 pu^zlio^ 

QrmmpUn todlgc', Foreit Htll, BS. 

Gipsy Names. — I should be glad if some one, 
who bus :vcce«s to them, would examine the oh J 
rej^isters of Norwood, Epping, Ixiugbton, and Yet- 
holm. A ffreat deal of information, with rei:;ard to 
the history of the gipsies, am be gathered from 
their Cliristian name«. I have made ;i collection 
of about ft hundred such, many of which are not a 
little curious. For instance, C4in any of vour 
readers explain the existence of the name GilJcroy 
in a family of gipsies travelling in Oxfordfihire j 
Was the hero of the ballad a gipey I 

J should aLso be much obliged to any ono who 
could tell me where an account of the case of 
Elizabeth Canning, mentioned in the works of 
Bright and Borrow, is to be found. According to 
the hitter, it occurred in the reign of George 11. 
Fkancis H. Groome. 

[The moit completi^ account of Elizabeth CAnnfnfr* 
and the most thorough sifting of her fttory, mwy be 
found ia one of tha most remHrkable of modern books. 
Pariulox€i and rnzifei, Jlitloricatt Judiciat,anU Lit€rar^, 
by John Pftgot, Burriftter-at-Law. Blackwood k Sons, 

CnniSTY Collections. — In the Christy Col- 
lections there are two patens, one inscribed 
** Feliciter lo(|uere *' ; the other has this legend : — 


What does this mean ? They were found with 
chalices and liturgical spoons and seals, on St. 
Louis' Hill, Carthage. Macksh2IC Walcott. 

The Judges ox Circuit, — Her Majefity^s 
Judge.% when on circuit, never interchange 
hospitaJity with the Sheriti* of any £ngli)<h county 
except Yorkshire. In the Welsh counties this 
curious custom does not obtain ; the SheritT of 
each county is always invited by the Judge to 
dine with him. Can any of your correspondent* 
throw any light upon the origin of these different 
customs in the two divi.Hions of the country ? 

It has been suggested that the custom in the 
English counties was the result of the large 
judicial powers of the Sheriff in early times. The 
Judges had to control these judicial fimctions, 
which were often harshly and improperly dis- 
charj^ed, and it became necessary, it is said, tliab 
they should avoid friendly social relations with 
officials whom they were nent, often by spe4;iat 
commission, to restrain. But if this is the rctd 
explanation, why was Yorkshire made an excep- 
tion I Arthur Williams. 
3, Utrcoart Buildingi, Temple, 


BOROUOH.— Earl Stanhope says (Rti^fn of Qft$mi 
Anru, ch. xi.) I hat the Duchess of Marlborough 
serif fli»* V»tieen, together with a U^r^r ],ttof^ 
stn cts transcribed from the ' ^tt 

of ^ I iilso the injunction from i >/ 

Common Fraytr bidding us be in charity with all 


men buforo the Uoly Cotninunioo is received. 
Misb Btricklttod {Life of (^hteta Anne) hfiviD^^ 
described tbe letter (ihe same, I suppose), adds — 

"She Ukewlfte obliged iUt! Quecu vritli a Prayer^bnok ' 
interlinod, and a cnj.y of Jcien y Tnvlor's //*i/_v ('^viH>f 
and Dyiu;/, wiih tlie Itr»vea *»iarVeti mid turned dowfii of 
the p«Mf«:ij|te!i by uLicki her Maji!gtvV &oul vtas lo |irutiL 
before purtakin^ of the aucred rttc.^* 

Which la the authentic accouQt, or ore the^ botk. 

fcmol >:. 

" Yangtc MoitBATr.^'"In the old pnriah registers 
of Sbifford, Essex^ h the foUowing cnilry: — *' Mut- 
gufeLt Uiininion iwas baptized oae YaD^e Monduy, 
1686/' What day ia signiiied / A. H. B. ' 


"The BaiiNT HauSE of AmT.iE.'* — May I, for 
Uie sake of obUiDiDg mforiniitioo, refer to » note 
on the abore «tibj©ct which appeared in ** N. & Q./^ 
3^S»'Ti. 383? An extract is there ^nven from h 
Bpeoob of the Diikeof Argyll; of which one piiSfuige 
runs aa follows : — 

" I h«Te dltcorered within the Tut few dnyf, by in<»re 
accident, that Ihb celebrated mid ' (viz. thut in ^vhich 
th0houte of ATrlie was deitroyedj, ** whch formed one 
of tliegrtvo acotuatioMH J^gnin^t the Mai quia of Ari^vll., 
and I betiero furmtd part uf tlse ucctiiiatior^ mi whUli be 
lo«t his bead, woa a laid tictivcly «up^ortf:d by ilit; grettt 
MjhrqyJA of MeattY>M9." 

Tiie correspondent who sends tbe extract justly 
callfl thiB *' an important bint on u point of his- 
tory/* To nie it wppetirs a most Bturtlifij; liint^ 
and most difiicult to reconcile with nil that is 
known of the bitter enmity between Montrose and 
Argyll, and tho devotion of the O^jtilvie family to 
tbe groat Marquis. I Tentnre, therefore, to retuH 
aUention bj the passage, and hhW whether uny one 
caniBUpply proofs and eKplanatiuns of Montrose's 
.aliWDMin tbe matter^ or throw any iight on the 
miilery, M. L. 

Fkkhgh DiCTJONARiRa, — What is the beet 
Frenob Dietionary to use in the pern.'*al of the 
Etrly French writeni, cfipeckUy Monrni^jne, Rjibe- 
Ui»,&c.? A* W. BhYTU. 

TiTfTFRN Abhrt.— Would Mr. Mackenzie 
Walcott, Mh. Fowler, or any of your other 
kamed correapondent% kindly infonii' me where 
I can find the be»t and fullest account of Tin tern 
Abbey ? Are tliere any good and trustworthy 
local gulde-bookfll A Foreigner. ' 

Mrs. Eltzabrth Mohtagu. — I have of this 
bidy a<anioo portrait, or portruit in relief, in a 
locket. It h not from the Zinck miniature, a 
ftiaaU engraviog of which I have, but it U a pmfiU 
portrait, tjiken at a nuich Liler dale in her life, 
«bawiug a very good profile and ciu-, tlie hair beintj 
roUod bacli from tho forehead. CLin any one tell 
hms ftflythin^' about it ? H. F. 

KiRKfiTALL Abrrt, Yokks.— Gilbert d© 
was thiHeenih AUhot, circ-ii 1350 1401)— i 
BriLy vol vi I tiliall be glad of infiumHtil^ 
hitive to the place of his hirtli, pArenta*.^c, &c. 
he of the famiiv of Cotele, of Camertoo, Sotn 
or Cotele, of Wilta ? W. H. Oottb 

Brixton, 8.W. 

A Cahtbrburt FouiTDLiKa. — Among 
Inoe di,^played this year at the International ' 
placed the waxen figure of a baby, with ^ 
notice attached : — 

■* This i« < he tttodel of an Infant left on a d<>of) 
Canterbury 60 or 70 years Mgi^ dre-)He>l iMei.bfH 
robe!*. Willi armft, an'l tlntfiaioe worked into lbe| 
Don San ittg* de Tahayut Ta^juno/' 

The child was never claimed. He wm ^ 
posed to have been the last scion of a 
" Portutjueae family/' Can any one say wl] 
this story is authentic, and give further p:irtica 


Henrv James Bellars, one of the ele? 
fivc-sirai lists of njodern tiiij£»s, did much wurl 
for the lute Mr, John Ciimden Hotten an<l nt.hi« 
book Hellers, He wrote and illuistratcd a ptmptile 
on Conthology, &c. When and where was be l»orn 
where did he live in Loridon, when did he dw 
Any hio-bibliognipbieal facts concerning bim^ 
desirous of acquiring, also the exiict title 
above-mentioned work on Concholo5[y, 

H. S, 

The Brig ** Temple,*' or London.— Can 

correspondent direct rue how to obtain in format roi 
r©«>}>ecting the loss of this vessel (so report) 
Lloyda on June 30th, 18250? Althou-fc 
** Teuiple ^' Wiis lost on a coral reef, the cre« 
passeni^ers did not per'wh as suppogcd, for I wn 
one of the latter, and, although only about iiv 
years of iige at the time, not only have I a distinc 
recollection of the mtiuitrophe, but 1 even remeuibj 
the flowers that grew on the then desert iHln "^ 
Little Caynmn, whence we made our way/ 
boat, lo Great Cayman, where we lived 
month, until rescued by the ** Thetijs/* of Lotidui 
The loj( of the latter ship may be in eKistenc 
if so, it would show that we had a nairow i 
from capture by pirates, off Cuba, iuuu&f^ 
after our rescue, in consequence of tbe " T' 
ninninij on a ^-andlnank^ and only beinj^ sutHc 
lightened in time to get off the bank juiit a^ tlii^ 
piratical boats were close upi>n h*;rr. I am niid< 
the impression that there is no detailed account < 
the above circumstanceB at Lloyd's, but po^ibt 
there may be in sotne contemporary aewepap^ 
(April to August, IttSB). b?-„ 

Mrs, Jakb Alice Sargent.— She U aut 
the following works : SfntntU and other 
1&17, Hackney ; HiunHUtjd Ahhtu, or the $Str 
Gram {a tale); i/t/4 of ArckbuliQp (Jnmmtr^ \ 



r I wii 

out iiv 

d for^ 


w ^^^1 




Jaarh of ArCfn phxy, 1840; J%i ChriAiian'uSHnday 
Comp'tnion^ 1h43. Can you give? me the dale of 
iKitt liMijr'*! dentin or auy biognipbical in formation 
rr;^ftrdiitg iter ? K. Inous* 

it warn i 

- -- ii did thifi title, 

_ no com Hi on I J in 

.a, .c, coQLinue in use 

ung the clergy, before 

er "i It is to be foundf 

^ft for itiaUinee, teveriftl times in a Ttiropike Act, 


■ Que. 

3 G«o. H,, lis, **Tke Bererend Master John 
Pcnyston," Ed. Maeshajul. 

Jonathan Edwards, of America,— Can any 
Aniericun reader tell me wh:it arms were borne 
by the famdy of Edwards, of which the author of 
Uie treatise on the Freedom of tfm IV ill was a 
fiieiiiber ? The family is said to have been Welsh. 
1 think we shall find that Salop was the coutiry 
from which it spmng. I IsAve not met with any 
tueniion of its using arms ; but it is not at all 
improhnbte that engraved port raitR, seals, or monu- 
menU may have been so marked. The following 
deacieiiL, 1 believe, is cotrect so far m it goee:— 
I* The Rev. Richard Edwunis, of Oxford, time of 
^»u«cn Elizabeth. 2. The Eev. Richard Edwards, 
" London ; married Ann , , . . 3. William Ed- 
K of America, 1610 ; married Agnea .... 
4. Richard Edwards ; marri%;l first Elizabeth Tut- 
hill, and second^ . , . . Taleott. By his first wife 
h^ had a son. 5. The Rev. Timothy Edwards, 
graduate of Har\'ard College, who married Misa 
Bc«cUiftnl« 6, The Rev. Jon^ithan Edwards, the 
#Utrv Preaideafc of New .lersey College, author of 
f^ r....i.^i o/ ike Wtif, born 1703, married 
Si»i nt, died 1758. 7. The Rev, Jonathan 

£ci..— -^, -uc younger, D.D. H. B. 


■ I h: 


(5««» 8. i. 421, 471, 511.) 

I wish to explain that I am sorry to seem to 
dbnent from Br. Brewer's view* on this subject ; 
<>ji flu. i-niiTriry what I intended to say is that, to 
bf be changes to be made must be much 

a- than any which he has proposed. 

Ml the la<it ten yeans in reading English 

^ KTy date and in almost every diiuect, 

I h.'«niiy require to be told that, as a matter of 
Ihcti continual changes in spelling have been made, 

' will eontimie to be made hereaft<*r. But I do 

Ibink 1>R, Brewer rises to the height of the 

4ttgnfiiei!t. I was perfectly well aware of the 
«ifMdhJ# words of Professor Max Miiller to which 
he ' ' lit their meiining, 1 believe, 

^•' [ian he does. The problem 

4tmm not in, uii see in to be generally understood. 
Spetkuig generally (I do not need to be told of 

the hosts of exceptions), T am prepared to main- 
tain that it is, on the whole, tu>t our spelling tliat 
b in fault, but our pronunciation. Those who do 
not know whiU this means will gain some light 
upon it by consulting Mr. Ellis's valuable work 
u^M>n Early Enifluh Pronunciation, The main 
result is this : that wherea^^ in olden times, spell- 
ing, though by no means uniform, was maibly 
regulated by phonetical considerationB, and at- 
tempts were made to spell words as they were 
pronounced ; everyone knows that, at the present 
day, the sjiellinj^ gives no real clue to the sound 
of the word which it represents. Whyf The 
answer will be found to be this, that pronuncia- 
tion has changed far more rapidly than the s|x^UiDg 
has done. The invention of printing did a great 
deal to yL the sfi€*lling ; and, since Gaxton's time, 
the changes made have been of a mild and timid 
character, slowly verging towards something like 
a generdl uniformity. But the pronunciation has 
changed, in the same period, very largely, till at 
last we have arrived at a period, in 1874, when we 
are situated in a far worse position than ever be- 
fore ; when the divergence between writing and 
sound is m great that, if any reform is to be made 
at all, nothing short of a tolerably l»oId one will at 
all s^itisfy the conditions of the problem \ and, to 
me, it seems idle to discuss points of minor ira- 
poTtiince when the whole matter requirt^s to be 
boldly taken in hand. Aiid here I may as well 
say at once that the conclusion to which many 
who have considereil the matter have come is, that 
there are only two things worth doing. Either (1) 
to leave the matter alone altogether, tnisttng to tiie 
printing-offices to make such Blight improvements as 
may, from time to time^ seem good to them ; or (2) 
to propose some new system, more or less phonetic, 
which aball be aocepted as '* good " spelling eoneur- 
rtntly with that which all the best printing-^fi&oea 
will certainly continue to use. In tt^e third course, 
which conajats in mere attempts at mending the 
spellings of some classes of words, I can see nothing 
but the elements of ^ikrc, because, what one 
person proposes another will disapprove of, and 
the net result will certiiiiily be tluit nothing will 
be donf* by eoiubined individual effort onUide of 
the printing-offices, It has been, in fact, tried by 
several hands, notably by Hare, and we are still 
where we were ; and, this being so, I sympathise to 
a great degree with those who say, why not leave 
the whole matter alone ? And, in fact, I think that 
what I call ^* printer's spelling ^* requires no par- 
ticular alteration. On the other hand, those who 
can rejvd the signs of the times will discern that 
the problem is presenting itself for solution, and 
will, ere long, push itself to the front : and I much 
sujjpect that something will have to be done in tlie 
w.ay of an admiaaible concurrent system of spelling* 
The p.Hoo of the present day is tremendous, and we 
are coming to this, that there will be thou 



wbose interest it h tole&m to read, but who cannot 
fairly B|Kire the time to master that iieculinr system 
of gniphy which is useless phonetically, but miiy, 
by the etymologist, he rightly termed " ortho- 
pruphy." The whole subject is too vast a one to 
he auitable for furthor discuasioD in these pa^es ; 
I only wish to repeat that I have no wish to difiVr 
from Dr. BrtEWEU, and that 1 merely intended to 
say that 1 doubt if he will be successful, unless 
he* takes a sufficiently extended view of the case, 
I ieei that I have written much in this communi- 
cation which can eiwily l>e misconiitrued and 
challenged ; but it ia difficult to be at once clear 
and brief, and I have no desire for controversy. 
Walter W. Skeat. 
Cambridge. ^ ^ 

Ralph db Cobham : Mary db Roos (5"> S, 
i. 208, 294, 397.)^! think it advisflble to take 

notice of Hermentrudb's comraunication to ** N^ 
& Q." at the latter reference, otherwise, I fear i 
pedigree of the Bmoae family will become mfl 
confused than ever. Hermbntrude, in her 2soj{ 
aasertion, says that Alina, daughter of her (Afa 
de Roos^fi) eldest son, married in 1294. Now thj 
iippeartt to me to be an entirely incorrect aasertia 
for Alina was the daughter of William de Br 
who was the son of her husband by his first wil 
Ifebel de Cbre, whereas Mary de Rooa waa 
third'wife. Again, in No. 3, her third son, <^ 
'' leaving his son." Now this would be, accordii 
to Hermentrudk, Richard de Braose, who died J 
1294 ; but if t!ie inquisition taken ^m his death! 
examinetl it will be found that he died s. p., i 
that his brother, Peter, was found his heir, aged i 
Inq. 24 Ed. I. No. 38, so that Km son Gile« 
myth. I believe the following table of pedigree i 
be found correct, if I may be allowed to give it i 

Ifci^be], dn. of Gilbert =1 Will sum de BraosBf^Aeum, da, of Ni-=MiU7,dft. of Wm, de 

de Cl&ro, E. of Gluu- 
ceater, 1st wife. 

died TilJy, Lord of | cbdaa dc Moels, \ 
Bnuiiberj Ilc. \ 2iid m(e. 

ilUDa, d. ofi= 

= William de=ElM&1ieth. 

ThtJS, de 

Brao^e, d. d and b, of 


132(5, Lord Rayntond 

1st wife. 

of Bram- de Sully, 

ber, &c 2nd wife. 

Roos, 3rd wife, d. 
1325-6, l^q. p. m. 

Beatrix* d.=SirGile«de=M&ad, d. 

and h. of I Braoge, d. 
John de I 1305. 
St Elena, 
let wife. 

of Eu«- 
tiic« do 
2nd wife. 

de Brao9e, 

d. nu, 


Peter de 

BmosB, m, 


d. m2. 



, m. 12&4, John de Mow- Joan, in. Jamea 
jp; 2ndlj Hicbard de Pee- dc Bohuo; dau. 
bale ; dan. aad oo-b. and co-k 

[ am quite aware that Mary de Roes, the widow 
of Willtrim de Braose, and Mary de Bmoiic, the 
widow, first of Ralph de Cobham ^ secondly of 
Thomas de Brotherton, arc two perfectly different 
personages. I believe myself that the latter Mary 
must be searched for in quite a difTcreiit branch of 
the family^ viz., that one connected with Lincoln- 
shire. Ah 1* am compiling at this moment a 
pediffree of the Braose family, to insert in a work 
that I am preparinfjfor the press, Caaiks, AfauMmu, 
*Smf*, (^c, of tht \Vt^.<tcrti Division of the County 
of iSu^ex^ any notes concerning this family arc? of 
great interest to me. D. 0. E. 

5, The Crescent, Bedford. 

Maria, third wife of William, son and heir of 
John de Braoae, and Margaret Llewelyn, was, 
probably, a daughter of William le Rus, and not 
of William de Ros, as Dugdale »tate». William le 
Rus married Agutha, sole daughter and heiress of 
Roger de Clere, and his wife Matilda (Inq. p. m. 
34 Hen. IIL, No. 44). She inherited from 
her mother a moiety of the manor of Brotidey 
in Surrey. WiiJiaiu le Rus died in 37 Hen. 111. 
{Inq. p. m. No. 4 9) J leaving a daughter Alicia, 
married to Richarfl de Braose, brother-in-biw to 
Maria, He and his wife, in 56 Hen. IIL (Blom- 
field's Norfolk)) gave to William and Maria de 

Jobn de 


Brao»e Bromley in exchan|;:e for iUfenham 
Suffolk. Akenham, however, had been the 
pcrty of William le 'Rus, and may have 
gmnted to Maria by Alicia. The fonuer, at her 
deaths in 10 Ed. IL, [>oa8essed Bromley, whi ^h i 
passed to her grandson Thoma.s de Braoi^e, a^H 
aldo Akenham, which reverted to Alicia^a heir. ^| 
is reasonable to suppose that Maria was a daughter 
of William le Rus, but illegitimate ; for at the^ 
inquisitions (34 and 37 Hen. IIL) Alicia was found 
to be sole daughter and heiress. 

Some writers of county histories have confound 
the above -named Maria with one of the same nad 
alleged to have been the second wife of her thu 
fcon, William ; and they have also said that, after 
William's death, she married Ralph de Cobham^ 
and then Thomiis Plantagenet (de Brotherton)^ 
balf-broiher to King Edward IL, Earl of Norfo,'" 
Mar?hid of England. Records prove that she ' 
the wife of Ridph, who died in 19 Ed. IL, 
of Brotherton, who died in 12 Ed, IIL ; but they 
speak of her its a Braose by births tmd not hj 
ruarriage. She died in 36 Ed. IIL The foUowiJ 
are extmcts from the Inq. p. m. (PU 2, No. 9} 5 

*' Maria CnrnitiBsa Norfolc', uxor Thoane de Brotl 
ton Coiuitis Norf'^ relicta Radi dc Cubebaiu miUtia. 

" Thomns de Brotbertoa deBpotuiavit Moriam de Bii 
secundam uiorem suun. 






«tt&n. Jn.rll,74] 



•M«riii tenuit de ba?r£ditiite Jobannla CoWUam, et 
Railulfl CoUrham pri^i Tin ejuedeni ComitJ»i» Tuaoc- 
riuin <le Anlitijutoiu" 

In 35 Ed. Ill, by a deed dat^ at Fmrnlinghara 
Cftsile, John de Cobham jrnint^d for life to his 
jnutber (dotuinjp Marite de Breuse) all tlie manors, 
&:c, which he had in BackiDgham* and other 
counties, by concesaion and feofnient of Ralph de 
Wcdon (BM Cott Juts. c. vii. 174), Maria held 
many of these at her deiUh, and anion^ them 
Weflon, To a bond, executed by Maria at Wedon, 
A wai was attached, having in the centre a heater- 
iliAp^d *hield (Plantagenet amas)» between three 
circuhir shields (Braose arms). (JuU, c. vii, 174.) 

Felix Laurxnt. 

Bmox : WrcKKRLEY, &c. (^^^ S. i.* 164, 25*1.) 
— If Wvrlii Hpy was indebted to MassLnf,'er for the 
i«i* d in the passage in his play of The 

Cou- j'^^*^ I weigh the man, not his title j 

'tw not the king's stamp can make the metal 
better** — he has most decidedly improved upon 
the originaL Had Mr, Macgrath added to 
Iw« cj notation from Masainger's Great Duke of 

* They c«n give v^mltk and tittet, but no virtues '* 

I the words which follow — " that is without their 

^ power,'* he would have shown an aluioiit exact 

ilel to Bnmss well-wom^nes— 

** A prince cnn m&k a bctt«d knight, 
A marqais, duke» and a' that; 
But an hone«t ntui'a aboort liia might, 
Quid faiLh he otauna fa' that !" 

^ TKii, however, has been pointed out before, vide 

7ff' Instructor, 1845, vol. i., p. 145. But it 

8 to me there is some confusion of ideas in 

illne^ by Ma^sinfrer alnoiit the atamp on "pure 

tad try'd j*old." If I understand I he pa?«i»ge 

aright, Masainfrer expresses a sentiment directly 

the opposite of Wycnerleya "^tis not the king's 

itfump can make the metal better " ; Sterne's 

* honour*, like impressions upon coin," &c. (see 

\mj note, 5*** 8, u 164), ami Bums's "the rank is 

ihfi guine* stamp," &c,, for he declares that 

uizaro, ^* bemg pure and try'd gold, any 

%jht I>ttko is pleased to give him to make 

I current will add honour." I do not see any 

» KUppose that either of the^e authors was 

1 to any of his predecessors for the idea,-^ 

inly not to Massinger, who does not seem 

^ hare got hold of the right idea in the matter of 

rtke 4an^p on **pure and try'd gold." What he 

T n)«(an«i to nay is evidently that the Duke would 

tint utamp any man with his approval unless he 

knew hira to l>c of the genuine metal ; but what 

hh*•oth^^ »!»thors eicpress is that, even when the 

^'hI to the pure gold, when virtue is 

honour?, tne gold, or virtue, is not 

^cr«Jiunccd in value. The capricious and 

ate conferring of favours and honours 

by princes on persons devoid of merit or virtue 
has been the theme of poets through all timt% and 
by none has it been denounced so forcibly as bj 
our great dramatist : — 

** Who ah all go about 
To cosen foriunG and be honourab'e 
Without the stamp of merit } Let none presome 
To wear an unJeterved dignity. 
O that iwintep, dej^rees, niid offices 
Were not derived cnrniptly ; that clear honour 
Were purohflsed Ity the merit of the wearer/' ice, 
ApropoA of parallel passages, give me leave to 
add one or two to my list of ** Poetical Reaem* 
blatires '• (5*** S. i. 164). We ^ve seen Burna*a 
lines — 

" A prince can mak a belted koigbt," kc. 
pamlleled in more than one instance; but I am 
not aware that a ftimilarity has been discovered 
between them and three lines in the poet Gower*» 
Vonjuno Atrm-idu^ viz. — 

** A ktn^ can kilt, a king can sare ; 
A king can make a lord a knare ; 
And of a lord a knave also/* 
In the cases already cited the power of a king 
stops short of conferring virtue, but here he is 
credited with power to debase. These Iin?s are 
quoted by D' Israeli, in his Ar^ianliu of LiUraturt^ 
IlU connexion with an amusing conversation be- 
tween King Charles L and the Marque&s of 
Worcester. It is needless, I presume, to infonn 
most of the readers of *' N. & Q.'- that the word 
hnave, in Gower*s and Chaucer^s time, and for long 
afterwards, did not signify a low or dishonest 
person, as we now employ the word fdlow in its 
contemptuous sense, but simply signified a serv.inL 
I may, however, give two examples, the first of 
which is curious enough : in an old translation of 
the New Testament^ the apostle Paul is descrilted 
as ** Paul, the Innvd of Je*us Christ" (1 think this 
is noticed by Evelyn in h'm IHary) ; and in that 
fine old bcJIad of JRobm Hood and Guy of Uis- 
homt we read — 

" But now I hare flalne the master, he bmcs. 
Let me gee atriko the knave/' 
Another instance of simLhirity of idea and ex- 
pression :— 

"Silence and Darkaees,— iolemn tisters,— twins 
From uncirat Night — who nurse the lender thought 
To Reason, and t^i Reason build Hesoive'^ 
That column of Irwt rnujtMtif m jvtciw/' 

Young's Ni^kt T%oushis, 
** Come, firm Raotv€. tak' thou the van, 
TAiru Hatk <t* ^ri hrmp in fnaa. ** 

tturaa, Epistle to Davie, a Broiktr Poet, 
The Scottish poet here seems to have hcdpcd him- 
self to Youngs idea ; it is well known Burns was 
an admirer of Young's writings, W. A. C\ 



i. 448) will be found in the European Magazine 
for January, 1782, where it is entitled **A Piece 
of Ingenious Levity ^* :^ 



p'* 8, n. Jvut ll/'Tl 

'''Twtti iifc the Birihniglil BalL tlr, 

God bleu **ur Gr»«tou» Qu-i-n. | 

Witf rv ]>i!(Tf>)e greiit At»ci gtu^tli fir, 
Ar« cti fit ff*"tiii;» imetu 

V [rMm France^ 

A l: — -, ea^w, 
Tho' wci *he tiipp'd 
The loiiy •hpi*'d 
And off ihe raitt, her slioe. 
1 h x)di«-dox.<dJ«-dMO. 
The t*— — ili4it litTthoe, 
Her ni|(hne«A Ut>p|i'dy 
The fid «leri ftoi-pM 
Not knowmg «rh»t to do. 

Am axed iki sucb & p&uFe, «ir, 

'Jlip d»nc«r«i to « riiai>, 
Eax*!* *o htikf tiie oAute, sir, 
Aruiitid ihe Priuces^ r«a; 
Jjiird lit rtlord too 
Lii<<' l>glHni»i|r fleiv, 
An«I Ih'^' ijnn««d in tr.ickle, 
L «i«l down hia wund^ 
And kftt H h»iid, 
fier Hityikl t«h4i« tu bueltle. 
Doudle-dijodlr-duo, ^c* 

^•The TeBtftl mat d^ of h'Honrr 
AUetiii%e to th*ir Uuty. 
A]J omv^ded close upon iKt, 
The i'linec bu< vey'd tlieir boMflty* 
A^liitired rhoir zeal* 
For'* prtner* heel» 
But VtU tbem he c mi^tT^d, 
Tha* >cuu fidflc ft^epi 
Mniitc dait i-repti^ 
TAt« flior^ luUht b« rctrifTfld* 
D uud I e doodle doo. ke. 
The Princes* eomi was ^hi'd, «ir, 
An-j njcm the d a rite weni: on« 
'Til »«iid Si I me gum diaii Gi>d, Mr, 
Came di»wn to vet it done; 
Pi fh ^jifl 'til* true, 
Old KiihIa d tiio. 
Iff ig])t danco from n'glit io tlQOHj 
ll 8li| e of Smtc, 
A«in»ng*t the f^i-eat. 
Ware m n^ied h^iirmi eooxL. 


£gid 'lis ve 7 true, 

iitr Jftt^ « r ftiMin, 

TUi'.v'ro nut i.f tane, 
And know doI what %a do.* " 

Colli Ks Trelawkt. 

At tbe Gotirt ball, givcii in celebration of Queeo 
<;'liurlotlc'» binbdiiy (Jtmuaiy 18, 1782X the 
Princeii8 Boyal, di-riog tbo first country d^incc, 
eauyht the frioge of her p^lticoHt in the buckle of 
her shoe, wbith brought I he dance to an abrupt 
ternii nation. This incident gave risse to ihe song 
incmireii for by ** J* C. C." 

The few en ty -four persons who took part in this 
meiuor&bio dance were — 

Prince rf WaJes, 
Bukf of rumherltutd, 
I)uke of Doiieti 
h»f¥*\ R4tclifutd, 
Lord Otftluiini 
Mr. GrotUlej 

Princess RoywU 
Lrkdv A. CMm^ibell, 

Lsudy Ht^iriiiont. 
hiuly Fr.iurvs Pinch, 

Mr, N^nrtli, 
Coloiti-I St, Legate 
Mr BccklJid, 
Mr Went. 
Mr, Luiidcy, 

>{iti4 Brodi^Hck, 
Mt»<< North, 
MUi North, 
Lady C. Talbot, 
Mi-s Woiidlcy. 

The first nomber of the Europran Maga 
(J.anurirj, 1782) contuina an enLT^aving of 
Princess Royal nod the Prince of Wdes aancind 
fxiintiet. William KayneO 

UiLTrin^n Street , Hftniptt^iid Eoad, N.W. 

*^ Phestkr John " and the Ahhs of tre 
OF CmcBESTKR (4^** S. xLi- "poJisim ; 5*** S, i. 
177, 217, 359, 450.)— Id reply to Ma, Mackkni 
Walcott's query standi ng at the head of his last 
paper, I take leave to ask a question and to wake 
a statemeut. My question is, if the sms of 
ChriBtchurch, Canterbury, be oot a " pall," what 
Hre they ? My stat^ement is, that I hare said 
notliing whatever of the arms of ** SL P«ter*«, 
York.'^ Id addition, I luaintain that the arma of 
the See of Hereford tire three leopard** beadfti and 
de-tcriH*d by Peter Heylin thus : — " Gules,^" 
Leopards Heads tetersed, swallowing aa mi 
Flower-de-luces, Or/' Bishop 8purrow*« desc 
tion ia identical. As Bishop Canielupe did 
occupy the See of Hereford until 1275, I wo 
further beg to ask what were *'the firms'^ befd 
his time, and why now they ** show his shield*! 
I quite accept Mfi. WALCorr'a assurance thatf 
meant no " sneer *|; but he must allow me in J 
turn to ** rebut tlie impeachment^' (if it be such) 
of "jesting observjttiona on cathedral armories 
in general/* or that what I wrote was "a diversion 
from the original subject." It was a manifest 
logical sequence for which Mr. Walcott is re^ 
sponsible, and of which he has attempted no ex- 
pknatioD. Edmdwd Tew, WLA, 

JoHS LusoN (5'^ S. i. 449.)— Suckling has gi? 
a brief pedigree of the Luson family of Suffoj 
^^'illiam LusoQ was lord of the manor of Gun' 
in 1724. Sir John Luson, Knt. of Kenif ia mea- 
tioncd in Coll Top^g. ti Om,, vol vii., 207, aa 'Jj 
fitraojiiT in London, 1595.'* He was "JDep 
Lyuf tenant and Caprayne of 314 trayned 
meyn." Thomas Luson held lands in '^* Vln 
hanapton": see Lelanda Notes of Stafford 
Families^ lb, vol. iii., 34<). The name often < 
u^ Levison, LeuMn, and Lewsoo. The na 
(Luson) will be fouod in the list of those peral 
who signed a<*atQSt ^* any change of the Booh 
Common Prayer," 1662. A Mons*^ de Lusaji 
Governor of Blois, 1591 ; Lansd. MHS.* 
f. 158. Rok*rt Luson, wh«' 
Vaugban is recorded in the 
register, 17»il» was &on f ^ V> u 

Jane died 28th of May, 181 -ivanctd i 

of I Hn and was buried in i LXiM,,., i lelds, '* 
bofw the oldest person interred there": see 
^ iK/l wt«, vol, i., 317. ^^' WivTER 





f S. i, 4ho.) — Piiny {H.N.) would 

iv^ thdt Uim woitl is of 

orj'^'ii. * •iiiiirii sliows that iu the onci<?nt British 
Kcirth ii-DitiHi ** u»l« " (couf. Wdiih ctirch) ; 
ttud it would be inttrestiug to txscejrtain whether 
tht* ancient GiiuJish had a word for hurley or oats. 
In ihv ancit'iit Britiiih kun\ km-ut\ is ale. In 
lofKltrn Welsh cwrw la ale or stTOOfi; heer* The 
jVtml. Lat has eerevitiay cervvtia^ ctrvua; the luil, 
eervrtPi ; the Baiaq. nnd Sp. c«rf*m; the old 
Frcoch efvervfiue^ e^rvoite^ bi^re, boiaaon. Scbeller 
render* oeritvitia, ccrvi^ia, **& drink made from 
COfO# which many derive from Ceres, qu. ctrctu^ 
«u." According? to Eckeard and others, certt^uia 
wtui tmtiied from Ceref^ ** quasi Cerebibiam, quod 
Cen**, id cast, fmmentum coctum bihatur/' Aios- 
^orlb gives arcvisutj qu. cfrrrwia, i.e, cereiiHs 
hi\nor. E. S. Charm ocs. 

Gnk^r'i Inn. 

P..S. Roget de Bellogiiet (Glo$8, Oauhis) gives 
**o«revi«ia, (.Una Ulpien^ Di^. 33, tit. 6. 1 9, 
notre c«rvoiae ou bterej en K. knrcf on kuruf^ Z. 
itprpf, bi^re forte ; Ar. itorf/, iuijourdh,, Awi/r ; C. 
k^r^, Le I; none ofiVe encore keirdi^ avoine ; Ai\ 
kmx'h ; Ckerk; Ir, JbirJt* ; E. kork'' 


or THK PiUMiTivE Fathers" (5"» S. i. 408.)— Tbia 
work is by Donald Lupton, and will be found in 
Lowndes, who mentiona seTcral other work^ by 

hrr" ^ in not be regarded as scarce, nor as of 

m i value, but it is useful m giving the 

kvi . .^ .., u of the lives, lists of works, and 
layingt of the Fathers^ much in the luanner of 
Fuiier's Ab<l MfxUvii^ug, Another work of a 
mtudar chumcter by Lupton— " The EUtory of the 
Modtrn ProUiiant JJivina^ London, by J, Oke**, 
Ut37» l2«'«j'* with engraved heads from Holland's 
licrooto^ia and Yerheiden's £ffi)i^es, is of great 
j4U-ity, as may be seen by the notice of it in the 
PrefaK'e to the Lrfe of Dean NoweU, by the Ven. 
Archdeacon Ralph Churton, pp. ix — riii, and in 
H^lfte'n Antedotc» ofLiUnUure, vol i, p. 188, edition 
1:- ' " ' *' ; ed. 1814. Thf-re is a copyof this volume 
iti lu Tite'a iUitahgnt^ No, 1903, for which 

W ^%^^i' -IN 4b. in 1856. Br. Bliss's copy became 
f»^ii)o for about the Siime sum at the »ale of his 
library. It contains a note by him that the plates 
were aflcrwHrdsj used for Fullers Ahd liidivitms 
in \fi;\ Writing the«e lines from Middleton 
Cl *h was for nearly forty years the home 

o' ted predecessor, Archdeacon Churton, 

J V my tribute of respect to his memory 

m* and odJ attention to his Preface to the 

L £c of Nuwell as full of interest, information, and 
4iil»c%i0n. The terms in which he speaks of 
, OoQgh arc singularly t«uder and touch iD^^ 
W. E. BncitLEY. 

*Th« anthor nf the above is reputed to have been 

with a tine book- plate in it ; it appeari^ to be pjtgcd 
wrong from p. <i4, jumping to p, 77, but there i* no 
matter misiiing. It seems t^ have sold, accord iug 
to Bohn's Lowndes's BtbUoijrajtlirr' s Mof^ttnl^ at 
various prices, the highest inentioueii being U. 
There is a pencil aot-e in my copy its follows ;-- 

"A copy (f tine scare*- book wm n^UI at B*ir*on*t 
■aleitf Mr Bn&cebridgt; sUbr%ry in Liverpool , April, 1818, 
far 2/. 5«., which wai cansidored uaUer lu valve." 

D. C. K 

The Crescent, Bedford* 

" The Liohthouse," &c, (5^ S. i. 4C8.)'-T 
copy this beautiful and chriractensdc spec im en of 
Moore '5 style from an edition, i>oorly printed , and 
carelessly revised, published at Piiiladelphia in 
1827 :— 

*' Tbe icsne was tnorci beantiful far to mv flf^et 
I Tbim if day in ilM pride baJ arrayed it« 

The land br«eze blew u ild. and tbe Mzure-orchcd tltj 

Looked pure ai the Spirit tfiat made it : 
Tbe murtiiur rowo soft nn 1 silently jf ^led 
la the tLnidowy warv«' playlul motion. 
From the dim distant bill, tdl ibe Light-hoiuo fire 
Like a ctar tn the CDld»t of the ocean. 

No longer tbe joy of the eailor l^'oy's breast 

Was he>ird in lii* wddl| breatbtd rtun^b^rs, 
Tbe sea bird bftd flnvn Ut h r wiivc->{»rdled oe«t. 

The fisherman HUtik to bid ^lutnber^ : 
On*^ HKMikcnt 1 looked frnm tbe biil'*|f*f«tle slopes— 

All hu'hed wa« the liiltom-fVimnn'itiun,— 
And ihoui^bt th^t the I4Kbt-hoa*e lou4ed lovely as 

Tliat fttur of life's tromufoui ocean. 

The time ii long past» and the fccne it afar. 

Yet when my he^id re*U on itit pilUiMr, 
Will memory som»;iime^ rekindle the *tar 

Thut blazed on the breast of th^- bill>w : 
In life's cttxiin^ hour, wbert the tr m ilinfr sool flies, 

And death f'tilJi* the benrt^a l«i«t emotioa; 
O then may tbe seraph ol mere? unee. 

Like u ittur ou eternity's occan ! " 

J. H. L Oaklet. 

This is in ** 8acred Pottry^ Edinburgh, William 
Oliphanl, 1627. Seventh Edition/' where it is 
given to P* fiL James, 

CflARLXs F. S. Warren, M.A. 

The Swtft Family (5W» S. i. 485.)-^ne of our 
kiKgs shrewdly observed Ibit he comU make any 
man a lord, but that God Ahui^fhty alone could 
make a gentlemam But in th's our day, ** gentle- 
man " bjis declined into a middle term between 
nqtiire and yeoman. My direct ancestor, God- 
win, the possessor of GocJeriche, was lineAJly de* 
stendeil fmm Sir BoWrt Swift of Rotherham 
(Imip. Ell/.), whose son was crc;kted by Jame4 I. 
ViHcoutit Carlin^fonl ; his daughter was married 
to the Earl of Dumfrias, the ancestor of the Mar* 
qui** of Bute. His elde«t son dying withoui is*uo 
male, tlic viscountcy descended to his second son, 
thrmigh whom it descend cd, r/* jMrr, U> Goilwin, 
(syBiaiJ ftf ltk& Jjciab Paialinatfj >r'^ 



[5**' a XL JlTLT 11/7* 

to his present inheritor by the firet wife, with the 
title conferred a few weeks ago {baronialltf} on 
Mr. Fortescue. 

The Goderiche cstaite was devised by Godwin to 
the Rev, Thomas Swif^, the issvic of his second 
iiKArriage. In his heredit^iry royal ism he sold a 
portion thereof, and pre'^ented its purchase-uionev, 
three thou«iinci broxid pi^^cea of goM, to Ohurles 1. 
in aid of bis conte«?t with Cromwell. For thiM he 
was rewarded by the Round hend^ with iniausage 
and spoliation ; by Charles II. with verbiU thank?, 
HiH Mujesty needing, as he sard, to make friends of 
his enemie^i, whereas Mr. Swift was his friend 
ready made. The residence of the Goderiche estate 
came, in proeess of time, to my elder brother, who 
(his only s^on having died) levied a fine and devised 
it to bis ^'rand-danghter in fee simple. The young 
lady survived him but a f<bort time, having devised 
it to her mother, who will, I suppose ^ leave it to 
her son by her former marriage. Thus has our 
ancient family estate been Bwept away, leaving 
me no remains of ^''The Swift Family*' but my 
patriarchal race of children, gnn;indehildren, and 
OTiit- grand children, with the hononr of being the 
head of the second branch. 

The slovenly mode of registering the Protest-iint 
denizens in Ireland appears by the said '* William 
Swift^ Gent," having been a clrrgyman; his father, 
the Rev* Thomas Swift, and himself having been 
the rector*, succeasively^ for fifty- five years, of 
St. Andrew's parish, in Canterbury, as recorded 
on their nnonument in that church. 

Edmund Lestiiall Swjfte. 

St. Verdiaka (&**> S. u 509.)— August Potthant, 
in hia Bihlwihtca HUiorica Mtdii Ai^i^i^ has the 
fnllnwing reference to thia person :^'* Vita S, 
Verdiana> virg. Castelli-Florentii in Etruria .... 
ab At tone episcopo latine scripta, , . . AA. SS. 
Boll. L Febr., i., p. 257-263 ; cf. commentar, 
pneviuB, ihiil p. 255-257. K. P. D. E. 

St. Verdiana would seem to be the .same with 
** Viridianay Ste, FerdiVnn^, V. k Florence ; en 
Itnlien, Vml\/tna" mentioned in the Vomh, 
HitgiologitjHc of Mi^^nage. Some account of her is 
found in Zedler a Lccicmi^ " Der Getlachtniss-Tag 
L^t der 1 Feb.*' R, S. Cbabnock. 

Gmy'B Inn. 

In Sacred and Lc^eiuJary Art is the following 
small pkiijsuge having reference to St. Verdiana : — 
** Arioth<?r Saint, who is sometimes represented in the 
old Florrntin* piciun^s, is St. Verdiana, usunUy dreMed 
M n Vallombrosian nan, but flio did not belong to any 
\ TDrder. She Is rep reseated with serpen ti feeding from 
her baakct." 

W, J* Macadam. 
Althorpe Road^ Upper Tooting, 

SuKaiDA^ AND " The ScnooL for Scandal '^ 
(5*^** S. i. 449. \ — If we may believe his own account, 
Michael Kelly, the well-known singer and musical 

composer^ snid to Sherid.^n, " You are afraid of ih© 
author of The School for SvaudaL'^ I have 
access to the work, but Mr. Matthkws will fti 
the story related by Kelly in the second volume 1 
hi.^ very amusing Hcminiifcmc^if^ edited by Theodo 
Hook. T. J. Bknnett. 

*' Had nB " (5*^ S, L 124,)"I ace that no one j 
ynur renders has thought it worth while to expn 
either assent to or dissent fi-otn my attempt to 
plain this usage. I must Buy it seems to me ] 
stand very much in need of explanation. It 
surely un grammatical, and not only is it used eve 
hour in common life, but also frequently by ( 
best iwets in serioiis passages. I do not find n 
mentifin of it either by Dr.^Iorris in hi»Acci(Uti 
by Mr, Earlc in his Phihhgij of ihn Englii 
Tongue^ or by Dr. Abbott in hia Shnkfspcafii 
Orarnmur. F. J. V, 

The "Vknoeur" (5»»» S. I 5020— My [_ 
father commanded the "Culloden" in the actii 
of the Ist June, 1794. In his Naval CJironola^ 
vol. ii,, p. 2f58, he mentions nothing of the deta 
which M. Wall on and Louis Blanc would feij 
bcdicve of the thinking of the ship ; if they 
right, he would hardly have omitted them ; 
words are, " Le Vengenr sunk before the whole] 
her crew could be taken out, not more than 
of whom could be saved.'' Otto^J 

See Jal (A.), Diction na ire Critique de 
graphic d d^ tiistoirt\ Paris, I8fi7, 8vo. ; artic 
** Andn^ (Saint) {dii Jean Bon)" and *^ Keuuudfl 
(Jean Fmn^ois)." R. S. Turner. 

1, Park Square. 

[Tbe groft cx«ggen»tionB of Bftrer* utid Jean Bon I 
An*lru ha?e alone a douM ojt tbe itciud hero* 
of the crew of th* '* Veng^-ur du Peu}>1e ** in i\\ 
j^'dlant flRlit with tho " Bniiiawick " on " the glorloiit ] 
of June,'* 1794. When ihe " Vengt»ur" yttm reduced ] 
a complete wreck, she dbpbived a Union Jack over h 
quarter us a token of Kubmisstori (ittd a denire to I 
relieved. Ai loon as it could be done, the bo«it4 of tj 
** Alfred " and the "Culloden" repcnod, it i« auid, iib« 
4CiO of tbe brave French crew^ and amona; them the ** V« 
ci?ur'f " captain, Renaudin, vrbo did not rcraoin with t1 
few who were left aboard. In the account piven »>y Vr^ 
tain Rcnaudin, — the only reidly truthful in; 
that the iribn who were ttill on b^mrd the vt^ !t| 

could not be Sitved before ihe went down^ ' . 
on ponsMnt des crts lamenUblee, des secoura i]uili» | 
ponvaient plus efpfirer. , , , Nous entendiona en no 
t'loignimt, qui'lauef uns de not camarndcfl fonner cnea 
defl va?U-T pourleur patrle. LoHdcmicr^ cris d« ces I 
fortunes furent ccuk de 'Vivo la llcpubiiqne ! * 
moururent <rn leu pronon^ant." The *' Vengcur'a" cr 
iurrendered, and aaked to be saved from ficrishtii 
Ncnrly all tctrt saved. The heroic few who law doo 
inevitable met it, bke the bra^ve saifor^ that they were. 
Thev loie no honour by bavins the »tmpte and creiJitablt 
trucli told of ihem and ibtir rncttjontblc galhmtrv in ih 
glorious tight belweirn tbe fbeti of llr^we and V'ilhinB 
Joyeuse Victors and vanquished were of the stuff ( 
true-hearted men ] 




"Yale College Magazine-' (5*^ S, l 44a)— 
The Rev. Robert Aikman, a presbyterian clei^jy* 
tosLTL, of Miiiiison, in th*^ ntate of New Jersey, 
living in 1871, when the last Yule triennial 
printed A letter tvdtlrcssed to him would 
oWbly obluiQ most of the desired informa- 
tioei. The Hon. William M, Everta, one of the 
editors of the Yale ColUge Magazint^ ia aaw a dis- 
tinguished hiwyer in New York City. The Rev. 
Churles Rich uas bprn at Boston, Sept. 12, 1809, 
and* ivfter fitting for college, uiado several voyageii, 
Jk«t Q& a sailor, and afterwards as mate of a 
el. He then entered Yale College, and^ in 
^_ f at the age of twenty-nine, graduated. After 
Sludying divinity, he wua settled as a minister, firrit 
iti Wft»hington, D.C, then in Nantucket, Mas3,, 
And finally, in Buffalo* N.Y. About 1853 he gave 
> preaching, and went into mercantile busLnesa in 
^Dwn, Jliinoisf, where he died Oct. 31, 1802. 
i Hdwin Osgood 0:irter ami William Smith 
ough were living in 1871, according to the 
triennia.1. The Rev, Chester Smith Lyman resides 
Haven, Ct, and is a profeasor in Yale 
Frederick Augusitua Coe was a lawyer, 
etised hia profession in New York City, 
^ where he died Jaii. 9, 187U, a^ed fifty- three. 

John Ward Dean. 
fioit<m« U.S. 

David Llovd^ LLwyNRiivDowKis' (r/'* S. i, 4?>.; 

— ^In addition to the pnrticnlurs already known to 

T. C. U., this eminent Pre^byte^ian (or, more pro- 

I wtrlj' speaking, Unitarian) minister appears to have 

' oeen ednciiied at the Carmaj-then College. He 

founded nearly all the Arian congreg;\tians in Car- 

I diganBhire and purts of Cfirinartheoshire. wjis a 

mun of sound learning, enlightened political ideas, 

^iM^considerable ability aH a poet. I have now 

~ a copy of some of his poetical workB, 

it Carmarthen in 1785, being about seven 

\ after his death. The poems are, of course, 

^ in Welah, He is said to Imve been thirty- six years 

ill Uie ministry when he died. R. \V. 

*^Hni>iiiitA9" (5^^ S. i. 4B1).)— The astrologer 
Bitirigiyl under the name of Siilrophel, in Butler's 
Hn'hf"-." r- '--r-ndly believed to have been the 
m\ Lilly, 

_._ - in Dettinyt d&rk connsi^b " 
I in the leventeenth century. Charles 11. la said to 
I luive fx«ii»uUed Lilly in hlK capacity of astralogvr 

ftXfitBTKR or Jews f5«* B. L 480*)— The follow- 

^ " 'V- ^Tanual for th& GtiieO' 

lB56y stated what i^ 

* eraofhirtbi, itmrfiftgeB, 

mtid .. ™. - — Uccn cornctlj ma^Je, mtd 

cauinilj pf«Mrred ; tbc bulb is entered &t tliolr cere- 

moTiiul on tbe ci^ljth dny: nnd ftll the etitries are aore 
mtnuie tbiiii tbose of the ChrlsTtiim Church. 

" The ComtoitteeB of tbe great Synagogues in Bevla 
Mark« and l>uke'B PlM$e, Aldiirafe, when ttpplied to bjr 
the CommiMionera appointed to inquire into the itftte of 
KegiBtcrs of Births, &c., in li^^iS, declined to part with 
their regi-^ters, which are kept in the Uebrew Iftngtia^e, 
on tbe ground tlmt they are continuolly required for 
civil &s well «« reltgioua purpoaci." 

As Jews after the Act of 1753 were able to 
marry in their cbapeb, their marriageiJ are more 
nuraenius than in the case of others. J. S. Burns 
{Hid, of Par. Rcffif^L, p. 224, Lomlon, 1862) says:— 

*' The followijig is a speciroen of tbe entry of birth, at 
the JJamburj^h Syim|?o^ue, in Church Row, FeruhurcTi 
Street:— Julia, the diiu^bter of Jonas Lery and Matilda 
bevy, his wife, of Bevn MRrks, Saint Marv Axe> wm 
boni on Wednesday, the i3d August, lii-'ti.' '*—Ibid, 
p. 242. 

This refers to the period before the parsing of 
the Registration Act. £d. Mahshall. 

Heraldic (5^*^ S. i. 489.)— Ermine, on a chief 
indented azure, 3 fleurs de lis argent, are given by 
Camden, in his VijtUati4»i of MuntingtlofuJdrc 
(Camden Society, 184S), a* the arms of Ap Rhese, 
Ap Rece, or Aprece. Alpreaa, whose arms Mti, 
Jay inquiiea for, will most likely be another 
variation of the same mime, 


Sprinkling Rivers with Flowers (5**> S. i. 
505.)— This custom, says Reinsberg Duringsfeld, 
Das Fi:Mchc Jahr, p. 144, is nearly extinct in 
Germany, but stUl lingers in some parts of the 
Rhine valley, c g., at Bacharach, ETc aays tlmt 
the ceremony always took place on the Ist of May, 
and cidlfi it Mtiibruunenfcst. 

Charlbs SWAIHSOX, 

Highhurst Wood. 

The "Jacobus" (5*»» S. i. 5()6.)— Richard Pitt 
had a gnmt of the office of Gun Founder, for life, 
October 31, 1613, See Cal Stat Pap, Dame^tk^ 
1011-1618, ti. 204. Edward Peacock. 

Bot tea ford Manor, Bngg, 

La Vienville (5*'* S. i, 315, 457.)— Is this the 
correct name of the Miirquis who wa« killed io the 
skirmish at Auldborn Choiie ? It is commonly 
given, I think, oa Vieuville, but occurs in the 
Journals of the House of Commons, April 11, 
1643 (and I believe elsewhere), as J)e la Vein VilU, 

T. W. Webb, 

"The Private House iw Drurt Lake" (5**> 
S, L 508.)— On the subject of private theatres, and 
the peculiikrities that ^distinguii^hed them from 
those that were public, let me refer Mr. Ellis to 
Thi AnnaU of the Stage, by Mn J. P. Collier, 
Vf.l lii T» 335; also to Malone's account of the 
E t ' prefixed to his edition of Shake^ptart, 

e<jii _ iioswell, 1821, vol iii. Mr. Collier 

notices seven ^* distingaiAhiDg loarks of a private 



[S-^S.IL Jtrtt II. *ri.- 

pluy house," one of them betD|jf» "the boxes or 
rooms of prtVfite thetitrea were rncloaed and locked. ' 
It WAS* fmiti thi-H^ in :ill prob^ibility, ihut the name 
WiW derived. The Bhickfriani, the Cockpit in 
Dniry Line, and the tbexitre in fcklisbnry Ooart. 
were private; ; the Globe, Fort line, and Bull were ' 
public thesitreB* Charugs WruR, 

BuDA (5*^ a I 287, 374, 417, 458 [ il 16.)— Your 
correspondent W. B* 0. is undoubtedly right in 
fiayinj; thcit it is Buda which beiirs the name of 
Ofen, thoutjh stninfjely enoui^h the Slavonic Pesth 
(pronounced F6Jii}, with the mme signification 
a** Ofen in German, is upplied to the other bilf of 
the town. The name probably arose from the 
oven-like situation of Buda. 

Buda if^ a Slavonic word, Hud fomiFi part of the 
nsme of mary villages in Bohemia. Its meaning 
in Tchekh, [ believe, is dwellincj-plaoe, habitation; 
it lA probably connected with the English bide, 
abode. AsHToK W. Dilee. 

W, B. C* 18 right in his coirectiom It is BudiL 
whTch is known in German by the name of Ofen, 
although the latter term is properly a tRinBlation 
of the name of Pesth* whicn in Old Hungarian 
(like the Old Slavonic p^Mhteh) fii^nified a stove. 
I vviia led into the blunder by a. hasty readinf^ of 
my Hanqurinn Dulloaary (Farka.s), in which I 
found **Pest, Pesth (Stadtj ; Ofen (venUtet)," and 
understood the sentence as jjignifyinff that the 
name of Ofen waa now obsolete, whereas the 
meaning really is that the Hungarian jjoit., in the 
sense of stove, ift obsolete. The puzzle in how the 
German translation of the nmne Pe-^th could ever 
come to desiguate the city (Buda) on the opposite 
side of the river., H* W, 

TuK Emperor Alexander II. (5** S. i. 464,}— 
The word Uar, the German ifcat^r. Barb, Greek 
Katrapf " F3ub-emperorj a sort of viaier," Arabic 
htAf^ar^ are corrupted from Ctuair, The ktter, 
which Schlegel derives from SiusskrtC ktJshoh 
(A^Vi), "the hair of the head,'* is probably from 
Ptfpsiao ffrtr, bead, top, stimmtt, a genera!, great, 
hij/heftt, chief. R, S. Charlock, 

Onhj'fl Inn, 

"Sblb" (fi*^ 8* L 228, 276, 318.)— It would 
appear evident that uU is not the same in mean- 
ifjjj, if it be the atmc in oritjin, which is doubtful^ 
with ulio^ or adion^ which, in En^iHsh, is called a 
stitcf^ or rut^ti <yf hind, and which Spelman, fol- 
lowed by Bloimt and CowelL, saya waii ** agri portio 
sulcos ftiiquot non f-ertos continens^; and also that 
it wtM calleil '' k Gall millon, I terra elata inter 
duos snicns {v. selio) "—facts these wbijch are 
otherwise well eat^ibliahed. 

Therefore, fdthough Mr» Dobson geems to reject 
the 8tUo( Prot H. Leo, of Halle (p. 54], I incline 
to receive it tm the moat p«>b«ble root of the 

place-name *Me soele," or "le scle," and noj 
*' seal,'' occurring in Grants of Land to Reich all 
He would limit the signification of this t^rm t^\ 
dweXUng exdfifimhf^ in the belief that Prof. Ij< 
had done the like, which, however, he baa ti^ 
done ; and in this way h}v<i arisen what I presttn 
is Mr. Dobson's misconception. Leo says iW 
the ancient form of stif. was saly the primitil 
meaning of which must have been thus general; t% 
this reason, as he ^ys,that ** wo have safjan inGott 
meaning mancTe^ divtrten^" whkh is "nopnmitif 
word,^' but, as he add«, is *' indisputably derive 
from I he same root," viz. mL Then no one 
doubted that manrrc (the inf. of m'fnto) is the ] 
of mansuBj the meaning of which tho lenrni 
Spelman says is "habitatio vel sedes rustica, nq 
n?dea tauium complectens, sed terras etiam 
alendam familLam idoncas" (GL z?. *'Mansta, 
Mansus ") ; who also (r. *' Mansi, aellas '') cites < 
*'Adnuntiatio-' of King Carolus, apud Pistl 
cap* 30, where the ** hfereditates colonornm" 
called mama^ and tho »ella^ the " domiciiia m 
sorum " (colonorum hereditatea mnnsa vo 
domicUia mansomm sella*), where also this pil 
hibition is contained, *' Separarique prohibet 
sellis mansa, ue divenditis terris confundanti 
mansn, subducantur servitiii,et de-stniantur villin| 
and where this statement is added, "Retinu 
hwnc morem vetus Angloruni CEconomia t**q«« i 
Henrici 2, Eobatem; ut h Garvaaio Uqueat TiJb 

Prof. Leo baa said that " If ttU be tba dwillin 
of the wealthy, of landowners, eoUf on tbe 
hand, indicates the abode of the poorer clnu 
(v. " Cote," p, 55) ; and if this be a well-found 
distinction, scle may be ju3t tantamount to 
manor, un(|U est ion ably a derivi»tive of mowf 
which is the interpretation of mJjan. But 
says, besides^ that in the northern dialect aalu I 
been distinguished from »el, the former men nil 
an "aides, domus, aula"; and the latter a ** tug 
ium ffistivum/' or summer hut of turf. Accolj 
ingly, there is a strong probability that 9fU ^= k 
is the true root of all those place-names which, 
Scotland, are ciilled Bhiels, or The SheiU (i.e., pla 
of the huts), sheilinga (L smlinga)^ &c.^ a« well { 
of the stdU, or ateiU^ and all of which are comtriO 
both single and compounded ; <i.fy.. The Sin 
{U scd&?), Lyand-si'heiles, Oauld-ishiela, A^h 
steil, Bar-coed*isteils, Birket-steil, &c. 

Aritttmetic : Oastiko out Nikks (5*** Sc ». 
332.)-'Though " N, & Q." is hardly a medium 3 
mnthematic^d communications, yet, "' the ball be^ 
set a-roUing,'* I will dvo it another shove. 
Mortimer Collins ls perfectly correct in »dl 
says, but there is no reason io the world, 
economy, for Teatricting the operation to nines i 
elevens. The reason why, in casting out elevc 
we take tJie difference between the sum of the < 








tnd the nam of the evpn digit* i«, that the difference 
between the radix (ten) and eleven is negative 
unity ; hut if we cast oat any number has than 
the ittdix, the operation is one of addition only, 
taJcSog care to write the number operated on, as if 
itA ridix were not ten, but the difierence between 
ten and the number to be cist out. Thu?^ take 
043^ and cast out the eights, then we work thua:— 
2-f3x2-l-ix2'+6x 2»=72; 
and 2 + 7 X 2 = 16 ; and 6 + 1 x 2 = 8. 
That ifi, G432 ie divisible by 8 without remainder. 
Or, caat out tho sevens from the same number^ 
then — 

S+S^eS+lxa' + Cx S»= 209 ; 
tedS + 2 X 3* = 27; and 7 + 2 x 3 = 13 ; 
and 3 + 1 x 3 ^ 6 ; 

thai is, 6 la the remainder after dividijig 6432 by 7. 

Alli«Dftiim Club. 

• OF WiOMORE (5^ S. i. 188, 234, 
)-Thot]^b I cannot tell T. H, who 
III hecket, or Ragonu Beehet, was, for she 
tie to tne, I can at teli him who 
not, and that is, the wife of Roger, fifth 
Bar) of March. The wife of Eurl Roger^ Aliunora 
^ lent, survived him, and died in 1405, while 
i was liTing in 1407^ and was then widow of 
/ Seya. So far as my knowledge goes, she 
atvtr diUed Ragona Mortimer, but K:igona 
Beebet* Bomina de Mortimer. 

I must beg leave to offer an apology to }*ouTiielf 
and your reisers for my stupidity in msserting that 
tli» Queen is the heir of the Mortimers. Tewars 
liM eaoght me napping ; and though I deserve his 
rttrnke, 1 do not feel entitled to the sweet envelope 
ill whidi he has wrapped it I will try not to 
^'dio It again*'* Hsamsntrude. 

«Wtol«" (b^ a i. 347, 462,)— Stratman^s 
iKefmary of Old Enfliik gives *' whele, A.-Sax. 
kfdi^ potredo." The Pr&mptorium FarvHlorum 
l m m \akte » the word by pmtula. F. Storr. 

PftssrcKs OF THE Blood Rotal (/>** S, i. 467, 
$lft.) — F. EL H. is too hasty in his reply to ray 
qamy. I am well aware that the " Dnke of Cam- 
bridge i* the grandnoT! of fJeorpe HI."; bnt th:\t 
do«i not, on "my ' ng," explain his pre- 

etdmoe over the ]> of Canttrhury and 

tli» groat officers ot ^ime. The Duke i» the i^rand- 
ma of m king, not of '' the ^* kinof. The diMinction 
it innportnnt. Middle Temflar. 

Ik«dfbr^ Yorkshire. 

T r Tnterted Come as (5** S. u 9, 75, 

liK, i;, 455.) — Inverted commas are fre- 

<|icmlj £MU4)d in printed ph^js to denote passages 

OOiiUled oo the stage : »ee Lond Lytton s Riehelim, 

J. Bbakder Matthews* 

htm CoK Nrw York. 

Isaac (akd Joan) FnANSTiAwt (2«»* S. ti. 467.) 
— Ihaac Franshtim w.'w elder brother of John Fran- 
Bbam, a linen-draper in Norwich* Of hia history 
I kijow nothintc more than is recorded in the in- 
sicription on his tombstone (quoted above). Nor 
can I tell whether they were related to ^* the 
Norwich polytheist," who may have been a 
nephew, but certainly was not the son of e'tiier of 
them, (Why that very eccentric person waacalled 
a polytheist I know not) The younger brother, 
John, died about ten years after Isiuk*. I hiive a 
parc^^l of his note-books, ooosisting partly of copies 
of his contributions to the GetUiima^*^ J<fnrtutl 
(a monthly period icjd pubiisbod in London, 1H90- 
92), for the most part in vcr!ie,and not much worse 
than the ruHbish whieh a few years later passed 
under the name of poetry in the earlier volumes of 
the Geitiletnan's Ma^^ifie^ with sundry other 
eqncJly uninteresting compositions. The coHection 
i^y however, not altogether worthless, for it confains 
also hiR correspondence with Daniel Defoe, of whom 
he uppears to have been a great admirer. These 
letters are all interesting ; one from Defoe eerpecially 
so, dated from Edinburgh, and containing an 
account of proceedings there during his mission as 
secretary to the Conimissioncrs for the Treaty for 
Union between England and Scotland. None of 
them have ever appeared in print, and I shrUl liave 
much pleasure in sending copies for publicntion in 
" N. & Q," as soon as I can find a little leisure for 
transcribrng them. Fr, Nokoai^k. 

17, Btdfora Sirtmtt Covent Garden. 

TjTE Population Two Hundred Years Ago 
(S*** S. i. 387, 495.)— Your querist will find some 
useful information in HaUani (Murray's Eeprint, 
p. 22) :- 

** The rorthem coun'ies, etpe^'ially Lancsuhire and 
CumhedMnJ, tHsiri^ vei j ill pei»j»Ecd ^nd tb« inhabitants 
of LoTidun and vv«i n<iiiFier not excepdini^ f^ixty or 
seventy tbnifan').'* (Note 1.) " 1 bo poiioUtirm fur H85 
\§ entirtiated by coTrpttriti^ » »ort ofcen^uA in 1378, when 
tht< inhal^itun*! of the realm fleem to have amouni d to 
ahout 2,80<Mi<'0, M-ith one still mur** lootiem drrBHinboth 
io 1588, witkh wniitd |^e atKmt 4,40r%4K}0, ninkifiiE p^^me 
iitTowuDcefor inore mpid It^crea** in iho latter per od. 
Three n^ilMiUa iit the at Ccsaiuii of Henry VII. ia i4robabty 
not too low t»u ettimate." 

G. LAUREycE G6vaim. 

Marmiois Herbert ik Mr, Dl-^rakli's ** Vtif- 
KTIA " (S^*" S. i. 140, 4<)0.) - In reply to a query of 
mine as to the historical charscter represented by 
" Marmion Herbert^ in Disraeli's Vemii^t^ a coi^ 
re*|)ondent wrote to you to say that SbeUey the 
po«t is meant I was for many reasons diaiAtisfied 
with that answer. I have junt come acrom a pa*- 
sage in the last chapter of Cuiccioli*« Rec^Uteiion* 
of Li>f(i Bijroti^ wnich gives a very satisfactory 
aohition : — 

** n« (Di*p*el?) hat given Byron (mo indiwi^wiii*t% 
I#ofcl C«iiiici» re|irc»«Miit4 Byrmi fr* m hit i'lfnnev to the 
time of hit m«rnA^e, »nd Mr. Herbert equmlly reprebsnts 




Lord Byron from tbnt faUl epocli till liis dentil. The 
selection of tvro persons to repTcaeid the Bame cliariLCtc'r, 
and to allow of Bjron's simple yet conuplt-x HAture being 
better uaderetood, was ft very happy pbilosopliical no- 

**Marmion Herbert^ ifl emmently unlike the 
poet Shellej» V* de S. Fowke. 

*' Dester " (5*** S, L 148, 214, 365, 498,)—" She 
(the divorced wife of Char-le-Mugne) is chilled b}^ 
various ttamea in history, Desideria^ Desiderata, 
Herinengard, and Bertha/' Extract from Hiatory 
of OharUmagne. Read note p. 135 instead of p. 146, 
SA the reference to the authority frotn which the 
afcatcinent miuio was derived. E, 

EioBT, Paymaster of the Forces in 1768 {5**> 
S. i. 428, 613,)— ^Ir, Wilkes, in the Nt>rih Briton, 
No. 31, closes a humorous corupatiaon, after 
Plutarch's manner, of Mr. Pitt with I^Ir, Eigby in 
the following words : — 

"In their more priTdte chArftcteni, both Mr. Pitt and 
Mr. Rr^hy bare generosity and spirit f in other things 
tbcy differ. Mr. Pitt h abatemioun, t<;mporate, and 
regular: Mr. Bi^jby indulges more in conTirial ple&sure», 
M an excellent bon-vivant^ ainiuble and engn^niiC. Mr. 
Pitt, by the most manly eenBe. and the fine sallita of a 
warm and iportir^ imagtaation, can charm ibe whole 
day ; andj as tbe Greek eaid* hit entertainmeuEs pleate 
even the day after they are giren, Mr. Rigby has iiU 
the gibes, and gambols, and datihes of merritnt^ntp which 
»et the table in a roar ; but the day after, a cruel h cud- 
ache fit iea»t fre(|uently eucceedi. In aburt^ 1 vfUli to 
ei»etid all wy days with Mr. Pitt, but I am afraid that 
At ntjflit I ehohid often skulk to Mr. Rigby and hia 
fmntU." — John Tijubs's AMcdcte JBiOffrafthi^f ** Lord 
Chatham,'' p. UQ. 

J. T. 

PORTR AND PROFKR NaMES (5**» S. 1. 464, 513.) 

— The prominciatiou ofBohvjii wasnutboritatively 
settled by CJhriatopher North SQinciclurc in the 
following terms : — 
*' It ia wrong to say 

*Bold Biraon Boliror 
Hatch for old OliTer/ 
It abould be, 

' Who can deceive or 
Baffle Eoiirar*' *' 

w. a 

A Jew*s Will (5^^ S. i. 449, 406.) -Many 
thanks to three respondents to my query; their 
replies are luost interesting. In the sume will the 
testator bequeaths thus: **4ti?. per annum for the 
flupport of the Jews' synagogue in my gjirden in 
Magpie Alley, in or near Fenchurch Street " ; 
also ^ to ten Rabbies to read prayers every day for 
one year after my death, in my said synagogue, 
I Of. apiece." 

I would ask whether such prayers for the de- 
parted are in general use among the Jews, and if 
so, what is the form 1 Is the siiid synagogue still 
standing ? The will alluded to is that of Benja- 
min Isaac, of Magpie Alley, merchant, proved 

May 4, 1750, a native of Bounsall, in Bohemia. 
He bequeathed several sums for charitable uses jft, 
London* He mentions his »on Henry, of Fafl| 
church Street BuildingK, mercliant, and threeSB 
his sons, Ephraim, Hyam^ and Isaa^. Is any- 
thing known of these descendants? Is this the i 
Benjamin or Henry Ism\c who possessed a 
collection of paintings, many of which were 
graven by Boydell ? The Lord of 0u Vtnctji 
by Rembrandt, was one. H. T. *" 

Ranckk Riders (5*^ S, i. 203, 271» 4I9.)-:I 
may be allowed to say so, and without being egotia 
the best description of these ''beggars ou ho 
back" U to be found in Dekker's i««f/ior7i^ 
Candle-light f lfJ09, a book on thieves and thio^ 
tricks, carefully condensed by me in my ShaJc^p 
Eiifjland. The passage I allude to is the foil 
ing :— 

'' The Rank Riders were cheats akin to the Gcr 
guests who took in 'mine host of the Garter.' 
gener&lly went six or seven in company, their punet 
weU-hllcd, well dressed, booted arid spurred. The Inn- 
keeper they cheated tljcy called the Colt; the galled 
far mop the Snaffle : and the plunder the Ring. Two of 
ttiem dr«:s«cc1 as gentlemen, and the rest wore blue cnatfi 
aa strTingnnfU, Tbev generally entered the bcJt inn of 
the place, dirty and dusty, linking their senranta if their 
footman had gone Iwck with their horses, to which the 
blue coats answered *yes.' Here, then, they stopped 
seireral day.4 — living in clover, keeping the rust off the 
spigotst and never bating the reckoningn a penny— to 
show they were gentlemen of noble eatraction. In the 
meantime their servants ascertained from what county 
the innkeeper came, where the ostlers and chamberlain 
were born, and what other country gentlemen were their 
fellow guests. They then, in the gaping circles round 
the sea-coal fires, bragged of their master's estates ia 
Bome remote and unknown shire, described how many 
hawks they kept and how many hounds, and begNn to 
fiWeur that they had come up to receive some hundredi 
of pounds opon land which tliey htid lately sold, and 
would harbour in that inn (liking the situation and the 
host) some quarter of a year at least. 

f* These reports flpread, and widening as they spread, 
the betid cheat got better attended, and was socm dubbed 
your worship at every eentence ; and to pleaae Bonifi 
be would ri^fuso to fit down to dinner till his host ' 
the upper place at the board. 

*" In the middle of supper, juiit at ' the pipptut and 
ale,' or very early in the momiDg, ruebed in an aocom- 
plice, dressed m a running f»jotman, and fiery Ijot with 
baste, t«ent up a message thut Sir Somebody Something 
had wished to f>ee hi« worship, and that he must be with 
him at auch nn hour, the journey not being more than 
twelve or fourteen miles. Upon receipt of tbif message 
ifrom so dear and so noble a friend), one who stHnds «o 
well at Court louk you, the chief sweated and chafed be- 
cause all his hor^B were out of the way, cursed tho 
aending them back, and the fool who proposed it ; o0ers 
to give any sum if hii cousin. him*e]ft und hi-* man, 
could b« reasonably horsed. Our ho«t provided t\j^ 
all horisea (if he had none bimf^elf, bori'ontng theq 
hU ncighboan*, paising his word for thtir fortbcoii 
in a day or two i, and with grace cupi, and kii^ieij^ 
hands, and rtjflie of ril»bons, the ohaata apurrcd awa« 

" Three days or so ha? ing paased, and his worahip i 
yet ntariiing, the host began to tiaatl a trick. He i 



t man, 
i thy^ 






Qp and doum us busy u a cortitnble on Shrovo Tuetdaj, 
with ^ hue nnd cry at bi» beels, and a plentiful store of 
ikfout cudj^Ii, Biit ala» ! by tliii time riur frk^nds bod 
rbfttiged Ihetr dresses four score milei off^ bad fold their 
hortet Ibt lonie country fair^ tiomted away half the money 
in i«aji of wine, and eUrtcd off in search of freah con- 
fidittff boiiifl and pleasantly situated inns.^ — '* LaHtfiorni 
and CtindU-iiffht; or, The BtU-matu Setond J^it/ftfi' 
wf'' •'• ^hich he bring! to light a Brood of more 
»t ifg than ever were iUTtbls yeare diicoTcred, 

X> . ■<'? malum, feciwe nefandum. The lecond 

adiuub liiwly corrected and Amended. London, Printed 
for Jfihn BiuhT, iind are to be »old« at bii shop m Fleet 
Strttie, in Saint Dunatane* Church yard, 100l>/* 

Walteq Thornburt. 

Dtnre ScoTTS (5*>» S, i. 488.)— I take the fol- 
lowing from Brunet^a Mamul du Libraire^ Paris, 

•SoctTca (Joanna Dam). 

** t >. pv-i..YitrFe quodlibeticn purgatae per Th, Penkeih. 
r , f «t, M, CO: c 1 X X m T. IJitc A (btftui tgo Sttn* 

B? ri jrrtsti {Vmtliu), in foL Edition 

Tv e» routa: Et cunrra rcn d*Mcila 

{> ant par un index de 5 ff. Vend, 

tc 1 .: . id: 2 Uv. 2 lb* Pinclli. et moins 

d'liuii, rar en Rcwcnd toutes ccb anciennea ^itiona dea 
tiaouloKiena tcoljDuitiquei aont 4 tr^sbaa priji/' 

SpAHtc.^ Henderson Williams. 

IS, K«fiilngton Crcficent, W. 

Heraldic (5**' S. L 348.)^ — The arms appear to 
be those of Walbunke, of Kixkbridgc, &c.» co. 
York* The coat^ ^lej a fesse fiubatucd urgent^ 
between two fmhires in chief and li g&rb in base or, 
b quartered by John \^'^illbanke ChildeTB, Esq., of 
CAOtley ; and the crest, on ft g»irb, a bird rising or, 
k borne by him as a seoood. 

Charles Jacksoj^. 


Pedigree Tractko (5"* S. i. 609.)— I should 
adtiae X, to purchftfie a copy of Siin»*s Manual foi' 
(As Oencaloffifty Topograpktr^ Antiquarif, and 
^ i^al Professor. He will, in this hook, tind an 
ant of most of the public records likely to be 
service. If, however, the membera of the 
fiLUtily whose pedi^ee be wishca to trace were not 
i^nr. T^ ..r i-ijui or hoWers of offices of importance, 
1 ' the work neither easy nor cheap. As 

111: . ( , u of the information soraelime.** ati'orded 

by the Jnmtu, Fo*t Morttm, I may say that, not 
lonjc Jign, 1 found in one of these documents (taken 
in 1535) the eridence of nine generations. 

H. FiSHWicic, F.S.A. 




OUcTt Aiy fn LkhfiitUi, a.d, 164:!. amd eiktr Skvrt 
fermi. By I he Rev, R. J, BuddicoTn, M.A, Vicar of 
1l|#r<AT}. ^»tt»l^^>^c^r^^^«h. ^Parker & Co.) 

trd attractiTe. Dork deeda 
•T yc^ ed in veraes rf pleoaant 

f<ta4rti^ ' vrho«e namci fjiU »o fanti- 

HaHy on lh« ear trum ihfi Churcb'a calendar, but whoiie 
tetonci af« not every day read, are depicted without 

fentiment, and without an unmerited tancUty heHg 
attributed to the or)Kinnl«. The inartytdunia arid per* 
aecutions of men to whom innny of our churchrf nre 
dedicated are faithfully told. The dayf of the Baptini, 
St, Chad, Alphagc, Abp* of Canterbury, and of other* 
*' whoae praise "naa once in all tho cburchea" wiU bo i 
found fur from tubjecti of dull reading. 

Mainoc, EpfliHe^ ttc. {Pickering*) 
Tttt author of thia little volume of poema need not hft?e 
iuppressod hi^ name. He may fairly claim to be a writer 
of poetry. Mainoc can hardly be faid to be the pro- 
minent feature of the five cantos devoted to him. Sitttil^a 1 
and home truths are inserted to a grtat extent and with 
aucceafl. Mainoc cornea on the acene, in the midbt of a 
atorni, distracted, and the very imafi;e of despair. "Ho 
la a dreamer ever of that which could not be ; a phantom- 
lU'icked and wild brained being. He had no aenfe of i 
fault. He knew no friendahip.*' Kvelino h a pcniive» « 
and lonely girl. Her deep love ia misinterpreted ly tho | 
a^iiniring jet timid Oic&r. Both pine in luneJineM, but 
Time ^ivea a voice to Reticence. All gloutny tboughto 1 
are at last a^roeabty stilled, Alcvone and other short 
poems close thia alluring little book. 

BtTiTAit's " PiLGRtji's p£0<i&t:S8 " (fi»* a 11. 8.)— Tho 
following ia the letter in the Guardwht referrtd to in 
the last number of " N. k Q." . — 

" Sir,— After two daya of careful research at the Brittah 
Museum Library, I can perhapa give aome further infor- 
mation reapecting the Aubject of my former letters, and 
\n reply to two letters in the Ouaidmn of tbii y^ttek, 

"It appeara that Guiltaumo de Guilleville wrote his 
first hook, Le Petcriftaqc de V Homme for de ta Vftt 
Ilnmainr)^ about A.i>. ^1330 to 1^35, and re-wrote it 
in 1368. 

*' Between these dates he wrote two other hooks, vit., 
£e Ptlerina^e de VAttte and Ze PtUnnagt de Jtms- 

"It is to ihe jirnl of these, if any, that Bunyan wao 
indebted. To look for coincidencrB*bet*^cen TAe I*yt* 
orimagt ttf the ik^uti and Thi Pd<friin'ii Prwp^^t is use- - 
less or nearly aOf as the lutter Vncfji where thefumtef-i 
begina. Bunyan does not enter into th** tutject of tho j 
intermediate ctato; De tJaUUviUe'a ticond book treat* I 
only of that. | 

"I find that the rolutne printed by Caxton to 148S ' 
containa no p^rt of De Guillevilk's first book^ bat begins 
with his lecond. 

*' A rt- print of the Pilnrxma^t t*j Man, waa made for 
the Roxburghe Club in 14<69- In the prefuce to thta 
work it is stated :— 

*' * It is not within the scope of the present prrface to 
discuta a queation which h>ia been raiicd aa to how fai- 
Eun>an may have been indebted to this allegory for tho 
idena atid even the detaila of hia /V^nw's Pi'offru$^l 
But it 10 at Uast worth tf of rtmark that «m ike fevtnt<mt^ 
ttntury thfft w«# citpitd and atOiUttid in MS. a con' 
devttd EmjtUh wivion of (/, d* Guiilrtiiie't Eirtt Pit- 
ffrtmaffc. . » , . In the Univr— '*" ? * - r- -* * -' l^jidge 
there is a itmall volume of J cUaa 1 

mark is Ff, 0. 30. , . , , It !• ,i cTerf 

law this, or th<r Ghwp' u ^^Ii-muiii " 

(Q. 2. "151 (^r the MS. i volume is 

mint-. I i>» i\^--a In i! ,_.. .. .. j-n'i Cnllrge^ 

Cati.i ] I, hvt he may f*e 9<mt Uiftt haw* faiitn <» 

ipi(/ ffith that dncrxbid,* 

**Mi<«' ii-iH rianitatiuu and ctmipurisfm " ' ' I 
upon the French >IS., vrbich Bunyan i<i nr\ 
have sern, nor could have rtad, aa wc are told 
«tood no language but lib o«vn. There are stiU » few 
copies of thia wurk^ botli of Uie Pii{fr%tnagt of Man. and 




[5«* B» IL Jolt 11/ 

of the &M1I, to bf hiMl lit Ptckoinsr's, TUe. Piccadilly. 
Tliey weie prii tcl in 1858 and 18.W. 1f»jr, each* I Jiud 
tliMtMr. f^iHTHili, in hi» Antr»fitt*^» of htt^iiurt. refera 
tu tbff re*cni1il«in e bciwei-n the /'•Vf/fn*/f J^*upiti4 nnti 
i^ti 4)ld woik by l*itr* Piawnuirv. br. Dit d n «&>a the 
/S'A/riwio<3M» «/ rA<? iS/**/ liii'l the lonTidiitod of (he 
Ptl,r»mr Prf^jrttf, nhicli i^ ckftHy a nii-t«k«, &a I h»ve 
8'nt>d ftb>>ve, 6* uthey rjiVF, *The atime ttile^orv h<id 
of tun been trtat' d tefort* b in. Soft** of ihtte way A ore 
Jatlrn tu littntfan't vnyr «"^ WinhJ^ti fat cithCepiioH. 
Vhirft A« iFifg ftot *viraif of mth frjiutiitr.* 

*' T Clin hardly *«iik you tu firi'l hoom for f>n Im'tr a loiter 
as thi-* without cjipt' fBil»^f my th links t'« the Libt^rian 
lii •! offici-T^ of the firiti-h Museum for the brip they §» 
nudly and courteously havt; &ifcrdi,d me. 

" W J. Sthackt. 

*^' Buxton Vlcarap?, Konncb, June 20. 1874/' 

Piii»ep» im '* PiigrimV Proirreaa " not c«ipied from ** The 
PHgrinus»re of the l?oul '* wi.I h^ found in *' X, & Q /' S**'' 
£J. viii. 268» 37:^, 4M2. See alM> 3^ B. viii. 46. 

"Tjiii NortTntiMUEiLLASD HocsM Lioji.— Mr Pmnk 
BtJck)ittMl, ill a If tier to Land ut*U IVufert fKiites tii»t, 
huppcnin)^ til be pai inir N'onhumber aiid B«>u»e on 
Thiif'dny ni* the li'^ti iva« beii'g takm <iowi>, he obtaijiiecl 
tiermiuiiiri to iii6|iept it. The inscription on the lion, 
Mr BuckiA' d Ba\«, ni« a thus :— ' aio r d : u 1749 
c : If Hkbt/ Under this, on the f^ast Adt% is a mmio^rarn 
i>f the letter a wih an s tainted into it ; on Iht; wrst 
«idt?, the It-tter h vnth & p, and hung^ i>n to ou*^ of the 
«n»ail )«f:B below ihi« iii a cr^^sr, %iz . a 1 oronct with live 
eynkep, carrying n^und bftlla. mil uudnnratli a balf- 
tDoon ; on thr? niber I de is a diffVrunt puttem of a 
eoronet, with three BCrawbf-nrT lr«ve« und a phcBn^x 
rbi K' from the flninest ; the ft>riiier is the Karrn, the 
la'ter the Ducal corontrL The nira§uremctit of the 
litn waa an foDows :— From lip of nose to end *»f 
tail, eleven feet it-ven ; tail, four f*et three ; heiglit Mt 
fth'MiTdfni, five feet five; round the Mime, six feet; 
vci^ht, abiiit one nnd a hJf ton«. 1 he body ie le id ; 
the (ail citppT, There are three ctiats of p irnt on the 
titin : ooe La bright liiue, IJe wa< puint«-d blikc in 1822 
by the tlit^n clerk of ibe work^. The iit»cripii<m wtifl tn^ 
terj^reted 10 Mr. Buckkitd a4 mcnDiog ' Alv'crnon, Dtike 
<>i e^imeisiet. 174i> (hi d tht) Countess Nortlmuibcrlnnii 
resiorod ' Tbo Hon ro|ir6«eivts the f*iue lion, the cre*t of 
the I'ony family, Karl* of Norihunjb^r'tmd* The stone 
on wliieh the bon »tood, and into whiob bis pnwa were 
faUc tied with lonif iron roiis ba <ed io, rcpr^etnt* the 
choptau li'hortjftitr of the cre*t/'— /^a// kiuH Oatttie. 

EoYAL AncH^JLuorcAi. iN^TiTtTTR.— J«/v 3.— ionl 
Tulhot Ue Malahidc, Pieaidout, iu the ibair.— Mr> 
<jr« avea reatl *'Nute9 on the Ura^n^fl on the Tomb of 
KicholsB KfjiTelon m Mu^ginEon Church, Derby-hire." 
— Mr, J. H* Pa'ktr, C B,, g^xe a d acourso o i " Archo*' 
*»b».ic<l InveHiig^ititn-* in Kome during tlie Winter of 
187-74.*' Till* wii.'* [[histruttd by tmnicrnusi pTanj*, 
sketches, and pbi>togra|'bs. — Mr Bohn exhibited two 
poitL<<]ifi of frescoes {'rt>ti} Pompeii; Mr. Hiptii^lcy, an 
anoii^ beiid and two o'j c\.^ in lironze ; Mr. GuMiniir« 
tU roui d- !•< of the time f-f El snbeth : Mr*. Gwilt, 
rutvbing of u br irs in ihc church of 8t. JMhn, Margate, — 
Mr. Tirge las gains an out ine of the prof^sed arrani^e- 
montfi for ihe liipon Mevtinjj;* beg(imii*g on the 21et in«t. 

PoBTft*ns op BiujtflficARK. — Mr Hain Friswbll 
writes: "I »ni aliotit to i««>ue a nt'u ' ! i : my Uff. 
Piiriuiifj uf ShAkk*jitTt, Ihe fine s of the 

p<utr<ita will he repr<-duced in pcm i i igrap})K, 

•rv« ral new ones being added. MrghC i a«« tiuy 4»f vonr 
readers nhn have oopieH of the A!«libourne, thr Ketton, 
or any other curious poHraitn, it they would aid m^ by 
letting me have them copied I The greateitt care should 

be taken of them if sent to me, cnre of the publishuflJ 
Messrs. Sampson 1>ow« Mar^tnn &. Co.| 188, Fleet 8t] 
" fair Hume. Bexky Ho^iik" 


tl'A.%T£n TO rtJncrflASE. 
P&rtfoti1ftrft of Frlitc, Ito , nf c^vry br>ak to he ««iit 4$d 
the fh-r-itii hr «h"in It i« Mquitttl, «bo«t iMtntt ft«»d addn 
firi^«i f»'r tliQi iturpwBi'i— 

, 4L< LiiiitT, po DahIlNMv a Scnoon bjrL. ( 

r i IfflHl, 

J MS of was vf Ihe Ko^eli Mf Vui Lesuivp« tke Dfriteb 

^ maud b^ S4immr4, f§op>tk, Boktmtard Maawi 


^oHrrff to € QtrtiponHtnti* 

pt*itn(j ttj CAtfwt, ioih /or thtir taixi at well tu our Qwn-^ 

Tkttt ihev JthnulU wirii* clrarttf and distknrUtf — p|i4 Of! 
one aide of tl ' ' 

and woidii :• 

TfqU'iltd, 1 1 . I 

rt'SfOhdettt d<**:4 not UkttJ^ wttrik Un^ Ui^iukUi 0/ imfasyl 

1m. Roy.— The auth'ir of the £l^t Hiftfonqm di 
At ad time Eth'thtik dr Fttinet w<is M. Per rand. Tba 
edition pubbuhed in PariH in 1314 waa the second, The 
first editioQ waa published at Katiabanne fi«verftl yoftTl 

C; P. S. WAtcREK,— The paasagie al hides to the project 
of certain Frtuch reformeraof a generation ago to divido 
society into phalanxes. 

N.— The acre varies in extent in En^rUnd, IreTimd. 
and ^<cot'ft^d, 121 Irish acres = Kuglish, aud 4S 

Scotch = 61 En^ilitih. 

A. L. M AYBiiW, — It is no iaptvs eatami df ours. The 
line etunds in Thf Soeakrrg Commentarif aa B. 8. W, giTca 
it; aud he simply uakd how it ia to be amended. 

F, H. O.^'* Was Hiinyan a Oip«y? * See " N. k Q" 
S-*^ 8. ir, 465; t. 15. 3ia, 386; vi. 07; and note on 
Buuynn's Paientage, p. 25 of present ounibcr. 

R. W. P. (BathJ.— The London FMtOjflce D^rfdory 
gives the informatiou with the exception of the dales of 

B P. J.—TkewkoUAH of Tachtf^apky : or, Short- 
kand Wrdtfiff made Maiia, &0., i* not considered scarce. 

J. B.— Tlie subject of artbangeU bse been discutsed in 
" N- & Q.," a^^ 8 ix, 4t$2, 617 ; x. S4, 137. 

W, — Wilbam Curtis, the botanistj naa born ia ] 
and died in 17iJ9. 

L, P.—** Abraham men.'* See ** N. & Q.," l**S.^ 

P . D.— Yule wa« the name anciently given to OhnttBiis. 

T. C. D.— Inquire at ihe Lamb«th Library. 

W. R. C. "We cannot ay. 

C. SoTBKRAif. -I'ou shall hear 1 

BiGMA,—*' Situate* next week* 

BwRATPM. — Piij?c 518, col. 2, line 13 from bottom, for 
** houjc- keeping/' read hoiM-keeping, 


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iMyooy^ SA r(mnA r, julv i«» i-cj. 

CONTENTS. — N- 29, 
*KUm" in CliaucftT, 41-Ji*Uli>gi io By-Waj-t. 4i^ 

9onam»t ltttny«i--**TJia FJower ftu4 the U»*f "— F*ttitr 
KamMe's Rftod, 44— The t^owagftr Litdy Tldiboro«— Pope's 
]lhjiii«»--Iron Tnsf*— <Oia Hohson'a KplUph— The "Umg" 
UlnUfcr^r— Bella, 4:^— MS. Notet in Boolu— The JiquoctilAii 
6Uiua la LeloMter ^oara— OftpUlo Baajsmla bUrluj, 4tl, 




>t«d — lAary i 

;:.rtrAlt of h: 

crIUb ^plicopal Seex 
' — Bdw«rd Klo^ of 

^^ H 1 Thiftle— Heraldic - 
ir Thcotlore Ttirqaet do 

<"i!il!s-."Qiil.l hoc »d 


1>iktf ' Ucun&D CnUiulic L^iDdcd LieaLg', temp. Chiirlei IL 

milJiiiiitc ti.,4d, 

HEPIJXS :— *'T1ie PilfiEim'i Progiw," 4»-Sln8ltt Bre-GlaMei 
—fijmm'B *' U^B of CoriDth«" 60— OruiU of NoblUtj Ui 
For«kii«n. £1—" A Stick of fieli"— Rogftrth's ** M&rriAiio & 
Ift Mod*"— ftUnley of Btrraingbam— Robert do Wydif. rtt^ 
** BmIi *•— •♦ Neir i J n '^ - Zin K»n 8tr«« t — " BUunte, " :>,^ - FbI- 
«6ii^ tJip \rttit -Cray** '* Elegy"^** Topn^raphia Hibcmic*" 
of > i^ia— Ediranlc^ of America— Tb«rf'C«ka, 

Ai < ly — Pniaciea io Bookj — Th« A lutnLllan 

i)t . r Moreton — *' M*ra hLn 5^woitl "—A 

*• W*um ror AIoxaj] ? -^jarPort 

Tim, A t of tho i>l.i Uw <il 

to««*to<t ' i-An Herali i^- — Tlie 

Abd til" I logatoun F*njily, 67 - W'liqne— 

Fi ;U ad*l«U"— "8* vomu "Z," 

VoIot on Bookit ftc 

In Todd*a Johnstm^i Dictionnry^ wnder the word 
*' Kick," we are told that Chaucer spells the word 
^.-. ._ii>:i .1 accordingly, under the same 
he J ly, gives a 4Uotation from 

ikc i- ... .-> ^ M.. > xuU^\ 6524:— 

** T1i»t we n'm kike, for that he saltb as doth/' 
T! ling can hardly, I think, have been 

^gi* ord by any one who had considered 

I i5ait . li I -^^ ^:^ » iier its form or the sense of the possa^^ 
' in which it oc<;urs. 

'kick," with its short i, would Bcem to 
\ form kikktn in Etirly Englifih ; but the i 
i lon^T iike the tt in it#e/;» 
A« to the sense of the word, I think it clear that 
' it has nothing to do with kicking, and that if kick 
HO* tttbatituted for kike it would not accord with 
tkefood wife'i* argument. 
Here ia the passage in full ; — 

^" A raanj ihal wynue va best with flaterye 

And witlt ' and with bisyneaae 

' he moore ftod lease 
it we luueu beat 
» light at Ti leitt 
ureue v.t M cioro tioe 
wiael jitifj no thyug nieo 

Ifauy\si ' * I iwe v« on the «alle 

That wu b«« Kaith va sooth 

Assnyl hiM± u ..J., ft |j^t SG dooth 

ffur be we nt la withlacie 

We wol been h : and clene of eynne. ' 

This is from the EUegmere MS. The five other 
MBS, publisher! by the Cliauoer Society give as 
follows : — 

limfrffrt. " That we nyl likc\ for he seith Vi iooth/' 

Cafnbridffe. ''That wo nolde k^fhe for he seyth vi 

C<»'ptii. ** ^at we nyl lake or he fiei)i ra sofi."* 

PeimorUi. ""^ )>%t we oj 1 /oAie or he saye vs aoih.'* 

Zran*dowae^ "' ji^it we a;l /oi:^ or he (i«ls |»t) so^/* 

We may dismiss like from consideration ; but 
though it may be a inis- writing either of Jtike or 
loke, and not a true reading, I think it gives 
appmximately the sense of the piisnuge. 

Kike (or ktjkt) is evidently the modem ke^ 
meaning to peep, or look, which is now used only 
in Northern speech, a ktck signifying a stolen 

The word accordingly appears as lokf in three 
MSS. of the Wi/^ of BtUk'n Tale, and in one of 
the MSS. of the Miller"^ Tak (L 3841):— 
EUamere, " In to the roof they kiken" .... 
Corpva^ *' And to t^a roof Jjay t4}ken,'' , . . , 

The Langdowne is indeed a Northern M8., and 
might have been supposed to have been con tent with 
kike without trauKUting it into loke ; but l^tkt was 
go<Kl Northumbrian enough j and was probably in 
the MS. which the Northern scribe took tm \m 
original, and in which loki^ had been subgtituted 
by a scribe to whom kQce was a less familiiir word* 

Now, as to the sense of the word in the passage 
before us, what could the Wyf of Bath not mean t 
She could not intend to say that tvcr^ woman 
would *'kick" every man who would tell her the 
tnitli. That was a violent way of enforcing the 
liights of Women to which she makes no preten- 
sion ! Nor was she likely to use the word ** kick ^ 
in an Ln transitive sense. It was not a question of 
rmjttititj anybody or anything, but of being and 
looking pleased or not pJeased. 

The sense of the whole paas«^e seems to be 
rougldy this : — 

** Flattery ia what pleases at all, and with that wa are 
casieat limed. HoweT«r froely we loa? lire, wo don't 
like bein^ told of it. but Ulie to hear that w«i are vrise, 
and no fool9 at alL >Vhy, there '• not a womaa of at bat« 
if a man will scratch her where the itohoa ((»rai«s her 
for her foible*. T^^'i^taLps<i, will look ely (and {il«'awd)j, 
because forvf I Let him try only, 

and ho ahaU i iv to please. How- 

ever bad we u-fiz, v,c h&j i^ i.u ui>tu^Ut good/* 

The " keek/' or stolen glance, implies a certain 

cijj -r-^^ ' nod with f'" ■ ' and 

iti Tale we i lor 

Ui. DttRitan if Bes>eDt*i Park, 

NOTES AND QUERIES^ ^^s?nl^vtWmf 



Harieian MS,, 831, is a scribe's copy, probably 
of the time of James I-, very clearly written, on | 
exceedingly good folio paper, and within red 
miirginal lines, outride of which ure occasional 
pyn optical headings. Its lengthy title in — 

"An Apologie or | true defense of ber ^W* hono'^ [ aud 
good ronowne iigamst all such | a^ h&iic undiiolie sought 
or- 1 shall leek to blemkh the i^amc, ] with any miustice, 
crQeltie, or | other unorincely behaviour I in any parte 
of her Ma" | proceeatnga againet the | lai« 8<^tiflh 
Qneeiie, | Be it for her first Ftirpriace, impriion- ] meut, 
process, att- 1 aynder or death.' 

** By very flrme rcaaons, auihoritiej, k \ examples, 
provcing that her Ma *" hath | done nothing in the said 
action a- j gamst the nilea of hono'^ or amie« I or other- 
wise, not warrantable [ by the law of God k of ( Man." 

''Written by George Puttenfaam lo the j seruice of 
her >Ia"* Je for Urge aatia- 1 faction of all such p'aons 
both prince: j ly & private, who by ignorance | of the 
ca»e, or pariiBllitie of mind | i^hall happen to be irre- 
solute I & not well satisfyed in the ] said cause:/** 

This political tract hna been taken aa a proof 
that George Puttenbam wan the author of The 
Arte of Engluh Pouit ; but whether it be a proof 
or disproof of this, it was^in i*ccon:Jance with the 
words, ** to the seniice of her Ma*^^ "—evidently 
written untler authority, and aa evidently, accord- 
ing to the French plimse, insj>ired. Hence, and 
«a it has not to my knowledge been printed, I 
thought that its vei'siori of the Queen's intents in 
signing Mary's death warrant, and delivering it to 
her secretary , might be acceptable to the readers 
of " N. & Q." 

Yet may it be truely said k swome 
in her behntf and ought to be be- 
leived, that her ma*" never abso- 
lutely determined her plea«tre in it, 
more then by aiibsignation of the said 
Trarrant in ^etj^all terraea w"'out 
UmiCation of any time in w'*" the feato 
ahoald he accompliahed^ and more then the deliu'y of the 
same to her secretary to be kept In a readjness k not to 
take place before her mn*' Terrall comandcm* giuen for 
Ttttificatio[nJ and dispntch of y' same, nor indeed that 
her heart could euer be brought to like well of that 
course of Jatiice/ nor by any open speeches gaue her 
consent to the deed/ nor p'aduenture truer intended to 
haue donoj, though for some respects the same ivarr' was 
Huffred to pass fru her, to the intent onely oi her Ma'^' 
hath been heard oftentimes to say k earnest! ie to p'tesi 
that the notice of it to her prioy couosell should satisfy 
them and her nobilitie for her steadfast p'eenerance in 
that purpose and determination, w*** they had with so 
great instance pressed her unto, and that the gcn'all 
publication thereof w"'' her Ma^* was not unwilling 
shotild be made and brute d abroad, might be a terror to 
all her enemies, and an expedient meane to interrupt 
and repress ail further dangerous attempts w'^ might he 
wrought against her mat^* by the tud Scottish Queenei 
favourers in hope of her longer life and aurrivour : by 
her Ma** ouer roach lenity and patience, the heat of 
her Mn^* indignation as it might be conceaued vt'^ hef 

'*The declaration 
of her Ma" intent 
in signing [y'] de- 
livery of her warr* 
for the Sk: Qt 

long sufferance by litle k litTe cooleing and declineing tc» 
a furgetfollncds of a just reTenge,[.l For cleareing i' 
m'^ suspicion it pleased her Ma*'" to condiscend to th 
subscription k deliuerie of her warrant and not in trold 
that the same should be put in execution, but by ha 
further sdvice and privitio, and p*chance not w^'out aonJ 
other now causes of danger enforceiag to let it be aceon 
plisbed. And so being otherwise used then wua ber Ma 
meaueing, it could not for all that—seeme to deserue ai 
blame or more to any discredit of her Ma" privic Cou 

J cell, who receiving the same warraj 
by the hands of her Secrctarie w*'*oa 
privie Councell I any such notice or caution, did w^'' all 
blameless in the \ dllligence csufo it to be dispatcht for 
matter { her Ma** finall security, whereas if 

I they shoidd haue used delay by de- 
tracting of time^and any euill consequence had happened 
the mean while, their loyalty might haue been called in 
inestion very detfply:/ 

[ Now neu'theles how good a sei 
h«r Ma*» grief | so euer it Ije likely to prove both 
whythcwarr^wu^ her self k the realmc, as all 1 
exec u ted so | fai th full subjects, & wel 1 w i < I ers veril 

speedily w'^out trusty yet was it 1)cyond all mi 
her further 1 offensive to ber Ma"' to baue 

advice I speeches k intent so much by 

I secretary mistaken, and (as sbee a 
ceivoth it) to be so spitefully prcucnted of two notn 
purposes w^^ shec htid w"' her self long before, bol 
rertuousty and prudently determined. One way 
Ridering now by the said Ladies attaynd' and judge i 
finiaht and consumate in open p'liam* she had noi 
power to make her own peace and safety, so as if sha 
found it by any litle debiV to ensue ^hc might make her 
mercy most glorious., if efiee found it not likely, that yet 
she might ti»e her advantsge at eu'y howra both w"* 
bono'' and good conscience. Then agmn by spare in g the 
feat some convenient tyme that shce should not a liti"~ 
gratitie many forrayn princes Ler go<jd neiglibo' 
Frkuds who had been earnest suito^* for the said Laii 
Life, and in that sort haue temp'ed their stomaciks iti 
coroodiously, k re leaned them in uery good amity 
opinion by expectation of her Ma'" better favo'^ to 
obtained in time, giueiftg the ?aid Princes by her ni\ 
curteouB k gracious dealcing both Leisure k also g( 
cause to search out any betor security for her Ma"' if 
had been before time cither offred or devised- For u^ 
the uttonuost pinch of extremity her Ma"* was right w( 
assured thut all y' best offers in any match be comoi 
made ^^ not before- so as if upon any such imaginati 
her Ma*^** taid accretary supposing p'oduenturc that he 
saw further into her dangers than her self did, or then 
ber heart falwaics replcniiihcd, with princely to 
nanimity) would easily he made a fraid of and thercK 
litle more then became him mistrusting sonic routabilil _ 
of her m*ntl, would secme to conceale from her privy 
Councell the verity of his verbal 1 comission rcceiued at 
y delivery of the said wairarU t» his kecpeing. it was no 
doubt a great ou'^ight in him and in her Ma^'' and privie 
councell none at all. vea whosoeucr should be of y* 

I mind to think it a fault to be some* 
mutabillity | what relenting and as it were irre- 

toward mercy no | solute (in the things onely that tea 
fault in a prince | to mercy k forgiueoes *) it may ven ' 

I be reputed a princely default, 
such as giueth her Ma'^* great hono'Jk no reproach, s 
a p'tc besides in her regaU nature, as her Ma'^" ia i 

* B. Chettle, in bis England's Mourning Oa\ 
writing after the death of Elisabeth, gives her ilmi 
praise for her merciful disposition, erring on the side 


^&IL JoiTlS,7i.] 



I po<«d b^rdJj able to reform e in her 

Iftir Ma"' ill »b!o | ielf or cuer wilbe during her Life. 

to w'SUnd y* pita- i And tbta tbat linth been »aid of her 

floa of merej. | Mvk*' iatent may rery well be bekivcd 

I and seemc notbinj^untikcly to lucb as 

know Ik, he well acquainted w"' hertfrucioujt goinddisposi- 

tioiii Mid bow iinde«erTedly iibcc hath nlwftief been enured 

w** the gretkt ingratitude of the world, aud the jswecteat 

buth iiNo taitvd the bitterest p'te§of Furtuue, that being 

now longftioce become oMunitc k eencctes as it 

I ftdrersity. yea ao little joying in the transitory 

. L.._-. uf tbija world or glory of her crown, she hath l>ecii 

heard ofcentimes saye she had resolued w'** her self rather 

to hazard her p'*on and state to the 

bcr Mm,*' resola- utmost danger w''' p'rer^e Fortune or 

tioQ k upon wbfct the malice of the said Lcidio could 

•c* work ber y* residue of her time, t^ien 

to bereaue ber that poor life of hers 

tlM bad so many yeares taken paynes to p'serue from) 

other meni aitaulti, and took it for no Hile comfort Ac 

jctory to to bauc done. And tliis intent of her Ma"* was 

tKjt to dose or secret, but that manyubout berhaue been 

made nrqunitited w**" it hr her own re^ll mouth. And 

if it were olherwijie k coutd not be witnesied at all (w*^"* 

^^ht reasoniiblte haue happened in so weighty a case, 

^ttot can worke ber Ma' * any poynt of prejudice whether 

' it be Gonfest or denyed) ik were suffi- 

I That her Ma"' cient to bu by ber Ma'* own solemne 

<><qght to he be- p'testation made in the fear of God, 

lerved lonehinf^ and in all truth, princely honor, and 

her intent k integritie auerred, and ought right 

wherefore well to a«tisSe euery p ticular p'son 

remaineing ignorant or unsatisfied of 

laer Ma** fucb intent/' 

. Brinsley Nicholson. 

PaiMTiri yoR PaivaiB Cihcclatiok. 

Th«» poem (5'«»S, i, 364) by W. M. Pmcd, in tbo 
ilA&za of which " Harver " la erroneously 
for ** Cobbett,'' eug^e^ted the follow iog jcu 
'] br MiM Catherine Fanabawe, authoress of 
ih on " The Letter H/* so long attributed 
Byron. As the veraes have never been 
utitislieilf pcrhnpK the editor will allow them a 
. in •* N, & Q. ~ 


•• * Sleep, Mr. Speaker, Cubbett will soon 
More to abmish the Sun and Moon !* 
* Btansas to the Speaker A«leep/ 

Morning Foil, March, 1S3S. 
*Kr. C— b — t a«k'd Icrte to bring in Tery ioon 
" *1U1 to abollBh the Sun and the Moon. 
I Bouonrab'e Member pr^cetded to atate 
p arTTtmeTit^ n^'d in n former dehate. 

res. Taxes, Vcxaftonfi, 
T' i Old Corpomiiong;— 

Tlj. ^,^-.^,--_. 1 , , ..t.ii those upon Earthy 

Had, he laid, been corrupt from the duy of their birth, 

With irekleiB profusion expending their li^ht, 

Onaafitr another, by day and by itiKhL 

And what diuses enjoy "d it I The Upper alone— 

I7p«>n jtti.b tUcir lind alwayi exclunrcly thone ; 

Bti' ever cmittt-d aBjiftrk, 

JTc r toil umicrground in the darkf 

Tlw rff-iH*? *«T t.ugiand— the Mincriand Borers, 

Of Atftb^a hidden treasuret the «kilful explortrrs. 

Who furnish, by grubbing beneath like the mole, 

All the Iron und Copper, the Tin and the Coab 

But their minds were enlightening ; they leam*d cir'ry 

Tliat dbeufcftton ie knowledge, and knowledge u power. 
Long humbled and crufih*dj tike a Giant they 'd riiOi 
And Dweep off the cohweba that darken the ^krei ; * 
To Sun^lune and MoonBhine their duties assign, 
And claim enual rights for the Monntain and Mine, 
Turn to other departments— High time to Inquire 
What (ibuaei exiflt tn Air, Water, and Fire, 
— Why keep up Volcanoes? that idle display. 
That Pageant, waf all mighty well in ita d»y. 
But the reign of Utility now bad cominenc*d, 
And WiBdom with such exhibitions dispeni'd. 
When »o many were atarifing with coM, it was cruel 
To make inch a watte of gQc^d fire und fyel. 

As for Nature— how little experience had taught her 
Appeared in the adtntntstration of wnter 
Was Bo noble a Ca^iital duly employ 'd. 
Or Wft« it t»7 few (if by any) enjoy 'd1 
Ponr'don marahesand fens^ which were better without, 
While paiture and arable pcriflh'd for drought. 
When flagrant injuttice bo often o«€ur«, 
Abler handa must be wanted, and purer^ than bersu 
Not to Bpeak of old Ocean's intatiable needi. 
Or of Sca« so ill-plough'd they bear nothing but wced«. 
— At Bonie future day he perhaps Bhottld be able 
To lay tlie details of their cost on the T<iblo ; 
At present, no longer the Home to delaint 
He ^d confine hiB remarks to the subject of Rain. 
Wa* it wanted 7— A more economical plan. 
More equally working, more ueeful to man. 
In this age of improtcraent might surely bo found. 
By which all would be sprinkled, and none would Ik: 

He would boldly appeal to the Nation'i good senBe| 
Kot to sanction this useless^ enormous expense. 
If tho Wind did but Hhift,— if aCload did but lower,^ 
What millions of Kaindrops were spent in a Shower ! 
Let them burst through the Bbackles of wind and of 

Do away with the office of Rain altogether. 
Let the whole be remodelled on [trinctples new^ 
And consolidate half the old Funds into Dfte. 
Less than half was sttJficient ; the surplus applied 
To Ste:am and Canals, would for Commerce proride. 
What on Earth could be wanted that Dew would not 

Bafreshment and food for all creatures that Uve, 
Just moisture enough to promote regetation. 
And supply the demands of this Tiist population ; 
For warmth would consummate whnt Dew had begun, 
When Olonds would no tonijser offuacate the 8un. 

Ho hop*d that the House a few minutes would spare 
While he ofTer'd Bome brief observations on A%r. 
To plain statements he mu$t their attention be«>eech, 
For be never had yet in his life made a speech. 
Air caird for his censure, nor should it escape, 
Tho* skill'd to elude any tangible shai«. 
Not the Sun, nor the Moon, nor Earth, Water, or 
Not* Tories themsekes when with TVliigi they conspire ; 
Nor Churchmen, nor Statesmen, nor Placemen, nor 

Nor the Emperor Paul, nor the Dey of Algiers, 
Were half so unjust, so despotic, so bUnd* 

** Old Woman, Old Woman, whither bo high ! 
To sweep the Cobwebs off the Sky, 
And I will be with you agiiin by and bye.*' 




So 6f%f to the cric« and the claitnii of mankind, 
An Air »iid hf* vrJckrd Prime M^n^^tc^, Wind— 
Goet forth the Despoiler— coTi^ummi? the rfttiuiif, 
I)e!«iirnM for the hmga of uu ' utions. 

Whf t a vMtc ot the Elcmci t itorra ! ftU thiB <^arried en in tl Keform ! 

Hnil, Li([htniiMr» and Thunder in Vulkys and Peals, 
The TropicB are trctiibling, the Universe reels ! 
Ocrtre Whirlwind and Hurricane, Tcnipcsta. Toraadoea, 
Woe, woe to Antigua, Jamaioo, Barbodoes t 
rianUtiofii uprooted, and Sugar dUsolvM, 
Rum, Coffee, an^l Spice, \u one ruin iutoWU 
And while the Caribbee* were ruin'd and rilled, 
Not> breete reach'd Guiana, and England waa itifled* 
The quality bad, and the quiintity bare, 
Our Liff 's ppf nt in taking or changing the Air ! 

Bate all that exists at its pmctical worth. 
'Twaa a •yitem of Humbug from HcaTcn to Earth ! 

Tbese abuses routi ceaee — they had loxtrd too lorifTi 
Was there anything right f— was not eTerything wrong 1 
The Crown wa» too cortly, the Church wa« a ctirac ; 
Old Parlinmentfl bad, Reform'd ParliamcuU worw» 
All rcTenu^B iil-mDnng'd, all wants ill-provided. 
EqunliiT, Liberty, Justice, derided— 
But the People of England no more would endure 
Any remedy short of a Ra4ioal Cure. 
Ififitmrted, united, a Nation *if Sages 
Would look with contempt on the vi»dom of agee^ 
Provide ft-r the world a more just Legislature, 
Aiid impose ao Agrarian Law upon Nature." 

W. M. M. 

Macaulat : Spenser : BinfYAK. — 
**One unpardonable fault, the fault of fedionsneWj 
perradee the whole of the Faery Queen, We become 
gick of cardinal Yirtuea and deadly ei^^ and long for the 
fociery of plain men and women. Of the personi who 
rciid the first canto, not one in ten reaches the end of the 
first book, and not one in a hundred perseverea to the 
end of the poem. Very few and Tcry weary are tboae 
who are in at the death' of the Blatant Beaut.** — Lord 
Macaulay, Eituyt, ** Buoyan,"' 

When I flnt took tip The Faery Queen, I read 
it, to the excluBton of all otber books, from be- 
ginnin*? (^ onH and within six months I had read 
it thr* "1, loving the poetry, and wholly 

inatt-er: hf> alleg^ory. But I was not " in at 

the denfh of the Bktant Beaat*' The last thftt I 
re^l of him was — 

" So now he mnireth throujth the world agaio^ 
Ard r«?eth •ore in each degree and state t 
N*: . him now re«trjtin, 

F at and itrf«nK of late, 

Bin ^ 1 11 t but htm ♦lo hate, 

A I be they w< I r ir clear of crime ir 

Ke opareth h* o(\ wit* to rale» 

No Bf anrth he ihe ^'cnue poet'a rime. 
But retida without regard oi person or of time.*' 

Ftitry Qm«n, bk« vt, c. xlL •. 40. 
I iiiti ' d to riccept Macfliilny a« a fi^ide 

tf> r<" I iry. In hifl essay on Milton he 

aji ; — 

♦ W itffficlT r-ntild we enter into a detailed eiaminatinn 
<- ^'Oi^m, the Paradise Repatntd,vih%cht 

h -.^ ecarcely erer mentioned e accept aa an 

u u.. iudneM of that parental affection which 

Tn*n of Icttem b'ar townrda fbe rfftnrinp of their in- 
tclleote. Tbat Milton was mlitaken in preferring (hia 

workt exrctlrnt ss tt it* to the l^arndUn Lmt, we t»rj« 
readily admit But we are rure tbut tlic superiority < 
the Paradtfiii Lo»t to the Parudhe liri/tttutd i? not mor4 
decided than the Koptrrority of the / < ' "' 
to every poem which hni since niiidc it 

And this wua written in 1&25 ! 1'*;. ujrtvi: 
Garriik Club* 

"Tafi Flowkr AKD THE Leaf/*— In < ' 

formerly, though wronj^ly, attributed tf 

is a passage which br' '.tie it« date : — 

•' Bke there be kn f the partof 

That t/t Aer tirui .... ..^:.i worthily.*' 

L- 520» Fh'Wtr and LtaJ^ Aldine ed., ir. 104. 
Thjit is, in thtir tinu^ these knights of old dii 
right worthily long duys agone, loDg before thj 
irentle lady told their famous story in the bower 1 
But, at the date of our legend ^ eadi old knight's 

" bone^ are dtist, 
And hia good sword ruat ; 
Eia aaul is with the eainta^ I tmat.** 
" Knighles old * ' must mean time-honoured ] 
of the garter," or " knights of the time-ho 
institution of the garter," but not " aged kni^ 
for the chief of the original knights (whOi^ 
have been referred to if the poem waa 
about 1476), the Black Prince, died before he vrt 
t\ " knight old " ; neither he nor his fellows U, '/J 
Sir W. Manny) were (by being **lrni^ht^fi old 
incapacitated from doing " right worthily/* Btl 
it is plain that this line can only me>an, *' th<ff 
were also those knights of old of the garter^ ' 
fathers of the order, who, in their time, in i ' 
of King Edward of famous memory, per 
braTe deeds in France and Scotland.** 

Cleiirly, " old " refers to the compamtiv 
antiquity of tl ' of the Garter 

cording to TA? ffvme) it was * ll 

in i34JJ ; accor'iirv^ in >ir John Froiasari ^\i>i. i.| 
p. 125, ed. Johnea, 1839), about 1344 (John 
gives a list of the original knights). 

If Chancer (or any one else) wrote The Fh 
and the Ltaf about 1374, i. <f,, thirty years aft^ 
the " knightes old " had been made an onler, id 
what sense could he have meant these lines to havf 
been understood ? In none, for they would hav 
had none ! So we must either condemn |x>or olci 
Ueoflrey as having written nonstiuc (the knightJ 
eoter, be it remarked, with the " Bouze P aif»| 
and Arthurian knights !)» or, less improbabljn 
dude that this poem wha written about a hu 
years after the time of the knighta old, wheii^ 
the doers and the deeds were reiisonably iintiq 

Harold LrrrLKDAfS 

Father Kemblets HA?rD.— To ** N. & O/* th^f- 
have been many contributions regarding tk«^ han« 
of Father AjTowMiiith, who wa« executed in Mm 
chestej in the reign of Que(?n Eliwibeth, aod of til 
cures performed by it to thi^ Hay. fn a ' 
called 7' ' * , 





liT^Hi. liiiclt tjf tUti present Ur. Jolin KembTe vtm 

Priect. in ihc reifr^i of CharloA the Vint. lUi 

I "' re tiled fttiil bnngtid. The place 

% is na*w a race-uround, mul wtks 

i> , . . Uia hiu\d woji cut off, itnd 

r. i'l^etuiirt K, A rcupeotibiQ Romftn CaihoUCf 

TtiiW of the town, iwid ti c¥eti in these e»i- 

dujj emplojed . , . . to touoh wenff, lores, Jtc. 

. . hope tbAl H poflHSfeWt Hupematunii 

Bl no Life of the ^ijeai John Kemble that I huve 
Men have I met this jmecdote. Where ia itm hmxd 
Father Keinble now \ 

>liiCRicE LsNtaAjr, M.R.LA. 

; DowACiEE Lady TicHBORWis,— Scmie time 
k^ i' Sir Alfred IHchbome^ hut before 

ir OrtoQ ckimiog to be Sir Roger 
De litui exotted any mtere^li a «a]e took 
^ n lo( of miscellADeoua ellectfi at TicbborDe 
wh ich wero leTcni reUgiovM hooka, 
• FrcDch Jangiiage» manj of thctn 
uiy itchbome's autograph and mujr^noJ 
Soiae of the^o book« were descriptive of 
rine of the Virgin of Lourdoa and other 
I pUgrimage ptao^^f, and tho ootids in Lady 
Eio'a writing pbiinly showed how she ex- 
i niinKulous iuteriwsition of the Viiyin in 
lint of her )K)D. The books in qtaeslion 
I parehiifed by the propnetor of an old book- 
High Street, Porturiiouth^ opposite the 
» to C^uii bridge B:u-r.ick8^ but were esteemed 

v;diie and sold for :i few pence each. 1 

dlxf^TK iber the notes on tho Shrine of the 

Vii^w '.:» us i^Lriking ine at the Ume as 

iwn T^sskAikMhie^ ei^|>eciully in oonnexioa with the 
Viu-lciioirii events tlmt followed. The books in 
^ttHion 1 fear h^ve beeo loof dispeivai and lost. 

p€irm*B Rhihum.— To looking throogb Pope's 
Stmjf and Satires, I hiive been ft truck with the 
miBuer of rby tnes that, to our earv, seem cKsentiiilly 
^ttltj, I uuftp^ct that be often made his rhymes! 
ptif|Knrljr iniu^nnito, for varicty'a ?Ak<?. If not. 
tfti|ltwitimciaii(in of many worda mn^t have greatly 
<iM|gefl sbce his days. In two instances the 
ill iBBi ioe hi strangely remarkable (Em. M., Ep. i. 

♦•TWrt Ihjit and rea-on. Tkhat a nrco barrfer; 
Pur «iP«r iBpante, yet fi»r erer near ! ** 
(Jf^wwl BumfM, Ep, ii. I 111) :— 
'T1i«^litT Anodjne, and n'ghtly Dnuiiht, 
1V» Ipdl llaaw fo«i to fair ouot^ Time tkoA Thouerht.** 

& T. 9 

kTMxbs. '^ ■ ■- -1 aloe or agavr, palnte<i 
aa acl^ : suooeaa. Bttch pdantf^ 

dullest and most prosaic of hotel*, and it has 
occurred to me that the idea might be usefuUy 
developed in rows of iron fan paJma (Palmyra), and 
other suitftble trees for the purpose, on those snn- 
etrickcn promenades at favourite wutering-plaoe«. 
where the natural tree refuses to ^ow ; as, for 
instance, at Brighton. From one giX>d model, 
avenucH of such trees might bo produced tit HtUe 
cmty and if manufactured carGl\iily« with i^ good 
effecL a 

"Old Hobson's Epitaph.** — ^ 

** Here Rolinon lies among his insny betterv. 
Alii ' ~C'd, yet a man of Letters; 

LI i LS well known* oft bath he gona 

In I vvix-t father and tho fon : 

Tiict« 'n UVM ill Camhridgt^ to his pruiso belt spoksa^ 
Kui may remember hiniby eonie good Token* 
Fr«>iii ub«(]ce he rtd to LoudoH day by day. 
Till <lcatb beiiighting him, he lost bis w»y : 
Hia Team wns of the hett. nor would h© haw 
Been mir'd in aay vmy but in tho grave. 
Nor ia't a wonder thtit he thiut it goOf 
Since all men know, he long wa^ dmivingoo. 
lima rest in pence thou everlasting Swain, 
And Suprcun Waggoner, next Charla hia wain.* 

The above is Epitjiph Ko. 149 in Witt's E<€rta- 
tiont! (or Bccrmtion, for Ingtnious Htad-Picets)^ 
1667. The same book contains four other hii- 
QiorouB epitaphs on tlie carrier (Koe. 63-6). 

J. E, Baiu&t. 

The "Brao •* Mr?fisTRY, — In turning o^^r the 
leaves of an old Election ScrA|>-Book, I h;iv<? found 
the following, which will prolnibly be new to moift 
people :— 

'* The T^Iinintrj which was formerly called the Caha^ 
received its name from tho initials m ita leading menft* 
ber« forming that word : and it w a fsct no lees ilnimlar 
than true thut the initials of the lesding members of the 
preeeot admiaisiratiori— 

B roughani, 


A Ithorp, 

form the appropriate word Brag t By traxuposmg the 
urraii(;emetit they make Garb I and by another trsns- 
peaitton, Qrah /" 

The writer then goe« on to prove, or attetapi^to 
prove, the Utness of the name to the ministry of 
1831 ; but with his arguments I will not tromUc 
yon. The name of the newsDamtr from which ih« 
[Mkragmph is cut is not recoraed. A. R. 

CroeiwyUtt, Oswestry. 

Bells.— The bells of St. Martin's, Bpaom, bear 
th** following imcriptions :~ 

1. Tbomns Jnjiaway, of Cbebcik, fecit 1781, Muika ««t 
mentis nvedicinii. 

2. Although I am bat tmidl, I will be heard above ibcm 

$. John Siiirt ^wA John Carter, Cluiinslmar^us, lf8l« 

I. Jubn l^hclps Buuie me, 1714. 

U. hhuu 

«'. Thotniui Swaine made me, 1700L Jolm WMfbM 




7. Rifrliurd Pliclps tnmle me, 173S. Williiioi Hoftre and 
JoflhuiL C)ti«ntiJilatu» Cliurcbvirairilciia. 

8. St mud Knij^ht made mo. 

In tho Beventh yeur of Edward VI. there were 
only four bells *' roruEiining iii their (the church- 
wardcDs*) charge to the kinoes iise/' 

Gbo. White. 

St. BriaTel*8, Epaom. 

MS. Notes in Books.— L In Buhop Buniei's 

Uutory af His (htm Time, folio edition, vol i., 

|i724 ; vol. iL, 1734 ; immediately following the 

rtitle-|)agi© in vol. u is thia *' Advert Laeni en t to the 


" The Editoni of the following Ilbtorj int«Dd, for the 

. fi&tisfaction of the FubHck, to dep^osite tbe Copy from 

' wliich it it printed (corrected and interlined in many 

places with the Author* own H&nd) in aoHie pubMck 

Library, as loonas the §eeond volume ehallbe publiahedM." 

And on the verao of the title-pa<:ye of vol. ii,, 
with reference to the above advert iseiiient, h this 
MS. note, within a spiace surrounded by red 
printed line.** : — 

"The oripnal raanufcript of both Tolumea of thi.^ 
Hiitory will be deposUed in the Cotton Library bv 

•* (Sigurd) T. Burnett." (iic.) 

The Editor, according to the title to the life of 
the author (end of vol. iL), was Thomas Burnet, 
Esq. Qiierif--Wtis. the MS, deposited in manner 
AS above recorded / 

2. Opposite to the title-psige, in a copy of lite 
I Tryal of Dr, Henry Sai^hererril he fore the Roiise 
cf Pecm, for High CrhntJi ami iMindemeanours^ 
upon an Impeacfunevt htj the KniffhU^ Citlxtm 
and Bntgesae^ in Parliament Assevibkd^ folio^ 
London^ 1710, printed by Ton»oD in pursuance 
of an onier of the House of Peers, is tlie following 
MS. note, viz.: — 

" Thu Hooke belongs to Thonuu D'Aeth, m be bad the 
honnor to be a Membir of that Hoiue of Commons ai»d 
Vote (nc) in thU imp^achnient. 

*' (8igncd> Tho^ D'Aeth.^' 


Thk E<jtrBsTttiAN Statue ik Leicester 
Square* — It has never been decided whom this 
piece of sculpture represented, whether George I., 
George 11.^ or the son of the latter king, William, 
Duke of Ciiiuberland, who waa bom in Leicester 
Fields. As it hiwi now for ever disappeared from 
its accuatomcd feite, and will never more be a 
scandal to the ** great world of London '^ in the 
eyes of Englishmen jiud foreigners, It may interest 
someone to know that when Wyld'B " tjrreat Globe" 
ooctipied the Square, the figure was, with ita 
pedoatai, buried several feet deep beneath the spot 
on which it had dways stood. When the " Great 
Globe" waa removed, the statue was disinterred 
and FB-erccted, " very little the wot^e for its »ub- 
terranean obacurity," so I am told by a gentleman 
who was one of Mr. Wyld'« Ethnojogical Lecturers 

at the time. My infornmnt further tell* me th 
Mr. Wyld himself wsis most anxious to linve tlj 
figure removed to ii place of .'wfety ; but that f 
could obtain permission to erect his '* Ctreat G\u\m 
only on the condition of his not removing tlj 
statue from its original site ; hence the expedic 
which he resorted to. 

My ethnological friend tells me alilt» thai oae i 

his ct»-lecturer8 and ''demonstrators" wus 

Shirley Brooks, a fact in that lamented gentlcmaQ 

histoiy which is, I tx^Ueve, ** not genendly knowt 

S- E. T0WN8HEND May mi. | 

Richmond, Surrey. 

Cai»tain Bknjampn Stareet. — As a cont 
porary with Umbrella Harvey (mentioned 5**» S. 
485), j>emut nie to introduce to your readers 
ejttroordinary and well-known chamcter to 
natives of Newcastle-upon-Tyne sfjcty years ag 
who was said in early life to have been the hn 
person who introduced and wtis accustomed to 1 
an umbrella in the streets of that town. The Otpta _, 
was a small man, whom I well remember, alwajj 
dressed in a well-worn long coat ; he was of son 
what pompous manner, very polite, and unusuall 
partial to borrowing wixpences, wliich, of cour 
were never intended to he repaid, Starkey caLlo 
upon a merc^hant one day with his u^ual reuneil 
^"^ My dear sir, will you kindly oblige me with tli 
loan of sixpence l " — " Well, yeB, Mr. Starkey," 
the reply ; ** but 3'ou must give me your promiK^oij 
note for the repayment." — " Cenainly^my dear f * 
with the greatest pleasure in the world," The pw 
misBory note was drawn, duly signed, and the mon^ 
paid (for he wrote a fine, bold, free, commerci 
hand, and was not deficient in abQity). Tli 
Captain then made his bow with many thanls 
A week had scarcely elapsed before our friea 
again made his appearance ; but before he 

make hia request known, Mr, C addr 

him, — ^* Punctual man, Mr. Starkey ; 1 see vc 
have come to redeem your Dromissor)' note.^'- 
*' Excuse me, my dear friend, 1 have not forgott 
it, I only called to in<[uire after your healtb ; gc 
morning," After two or three attempts, witn 
better result, the Captain's calls ceased, 
note was kept as a curiosity. The life of thl^ 
singular character, said to have been written 
himself, was published. About the smnv tiuu 
Mr, H. P. Parker, an artist of eminent 
his famous local picture of T}t4i Eccentrit * 
of NttvemlU^ which waa afterwards engraved, 
consisted of more than a dozen full-length Hgur 
showing, as far as a painting could, all the pecti 
liarities of the peraons portrayed. Amongst the 
Captain Starkey appears ; an admirable likene 
ivs were all tho others. Why the Captain had na 
succeeded in life, with his ability and fine hand 
writing, I never learnt. iT, B. P. 

Barboumef Woroeater. 


Hit IP, 74] 



ttuflt requeft eorrcflpondents dcmrin^ information 
rty hiiiUqtv of onlj private interest, to aiBz their 
and uddf cam to their qaeries, in ord«r that the 
f, Mtukj b« Addntttd to them direct.] 

^PkiiiAVii70s. — I lately picked up two old 
KOgBf ooncernmg whicU I am demroua of 
3ig the names of the artist and engraver, 
»f publication, and uny other partictilars. 
Mgins have been completely cut away. The 
has assumed^ I suppoBe from a^e or neglect, 
I brown tint Bize of each, M)out nixteen 
long by fifteen inehea high. No* L A 
Q in a famj-hoiiae^ with some of the family 
round a table, enjoying a meal of sooie kind 
idge. A man with cropped head, stout Ieg9» 

Pfect, is busily employed with a howl and 
IpAted beside him is a young woman 
B^ on her knee ; the child boldij h spoon, 
woman » the gnindmother probcbly^ is 
p milk out of a jug, or jar^ into another 
A shock-headed fellow stands in the back- 
I, busy with bowl and spoon. An elderly 
its at, or rather on, one end of the table, and 
ently tnakinj,' some pleitsant speech to the 
woman opposite. A large hound aita imder 
ble close to the satyr's legs, and a oock h 
I on the window shutter, inside the room, 
upper right-hand comer. No, 2, The same 
r scene, but with a different set of persons. 
tjT, who now is well bearded, is standing, 
apset his chair, and is addressing the 
, who evide-utly listen to him with attention, 
mid and cock are both larger than in No. 1, 
e hitter h perched on the top of a wicker- 
ajm-chair, in which an old wouian sits ; a 
Died girl, wearing a high crowned hat, and 
f a pitcher under her arm, leans against the 
titf with her back to a lattice window. 
»wi]|£ in l>oth h moat life-like, and the 
iiig adjnimble. W. H. Pattkrson^ 

\mstr £kolish Episcopal SEKa.— In the 
lie of a decree of Aethelheard, ArclibiBhop 
which is dated a.d. 803, ktely 
I'Pahcogmphic&l Society, I notice 
* op describes himself as *^ archi- 
mU civitatisJ' Will any of 
nts be 80 good as to inform me 
bbiflhops of Canterbury ceased thus 
^th^ir see I 

her bishops subecribing the same docu- 

[''legorensis civitatis episeopus" and 

k ciTitAtia epiiicopuB,'^ What were the 

m^ blflhopd t There are also ** syddenKi^ 

5^ " *' scirabumcnsiti civitatis epis- 

! ecclesice episeopus." Am I 

bppoimg lucse bishops to bo the bishops 

ictrrtgr, Sherborne, and Sehea? 

It may be well to add that the other subscribing 
biahops are the bishops of Lichfield (who siguB 
next to the Primate), of Worcenter, of Hereford, 
of Winchester, of Ehnham, of London, and of 
Rochester. (L D. W. 0. 

Authors Wanted. — I shall be glad to know 
where the following lines may be found in the 
literature of tlie seventeenth century ; also to be 
favoured with some reference to where I can lind 
not ices of the personages whose merits and de- 
merits are so characteristically depicted by the 
author :— 

" When York to Heaven shall lift one •olctnn eye, 
And love bi« wife beyond Adultery, 
Whea Godltnew to (jain shall be prefer'd 
By more thttn two of the Right KoTerend Herd, 
When Pa Her ihall pronounce upriKht decrees. 
And Nun^erford refaM his double fees, 
Wh«n bonent Prke Bhall trim and truckle under, 
And PoicU give a Charge without h blunder, 
When Piuff one tinge r free from bribery shewi, 
And ForUsfue deserves a better ho«e, 
When £tfert hia haughtiaess shall lav aside, 
And Tracy*i fOul in peneroufl «ct4^ taJte Pride, 
VVTien Prat with Patience sball dispence the L&ws^ 
And Kinrj chall partially decide one cauce, 
Then will I cease my Charmer to adore 
And thiciJc of Lore and Politicks no more." 

T. W. W. S. 

*' And wonderli) with a face of foolish proiio.'* 
Sam. M. Hahrison. 

A hidy of eightv-eight has these lines on a 
watch running in lier head. Can any of your 
correspondents help her to the rest of the words ? — 
'' Little monitor, from thee 
Let me leara what I ihoald be." 

z. z. 

**ThKRE 18 NOTHIKa so SirCCKfiSKUL AS 8U0CK8S." 

— I have beard it attributed to Napoleon I. 



Mary op Bl'ttermeiie-—! have hunted in vain 
through uH the vohimeH of ** N. & Q.'* for some 
account of this popular heroine of our youth. 
Antecedently to experience it is incredible that 
she should not be mentioned in your pages. I am 
desirous to know (1) what her real name was ; 
(2) when did she die ; (3) did she marry again ; 
(4) are any of her family still ut Buttermere ? De 
Quincey's account seems to 1m? the only one easily 
accessible. It occurs in the seajnd volume of hia 
works. The Jit4^oUfeiions of the Laka. He, how- 
ever, does not tell what Wordsworth does in his 
Prelude^ B. 7, where he mentions that "Mary** 
had a child, and that it died. Any particniars 
would greatly oblige FiTZ Hkoinald. 

Edward Krsfo, of '^Lycidab": Portrait ok 
StiELLBY.— Can any one infonn me if there exists 
any portrait, psiinted or engraved, of Edward King, 

the Ljeidaa of Miltoti's poem ; and if ihefe exist 
sueh, where it is to be seen or heurd of? A\&>^ 
where the fullest account of hiii cbnmcter and life 
And appeamnce is to be found ? I am aware of information to be derived from Thomas War- 
ton's unequalled edition of Milton's P*y€v^s on 
Swertd i)€C(motis^ 1 70 1 ^ and other dates. I also 
wieh to know if there is any engraTO<i ]>ortmit of 
Shelley of a aiite larger than those prefixed to most 
tH^itions of hia poems. I have inquired hitherto 
without saocetSy but perhaps ^ K. & Q.*' can help 
me. H. S. Skipton. 

Exeter Gollego, Oxford. 

MARLBonouoH Familt PicTURB. — In whose 
po«i!*ession is the large picture of the Marlborough 
lamUy, painted by Cloaterman about the beginning 
of the hist century, in which were represented the 
Duke of Marlborough (in a corner behintl a thin 
curtain)^ the Duchess, their Ron, the Murf^uit? of 
Blandford, and their four daufjhters i This picture 
13 mentioned by Boyer, in hia History of Qit4^:n 
Anjif. The Dudiesa, it seems, havin)^ been told 
of m cftrcittb remjirk made upon it by the Countess 
of DorchiiteT, wished to have her own figure 
rubbed out, and a flower-pot placed instead of it ; 
but at last she resolved to leave the picture on 
Mr. Clostenuan'a hjuids, which he took so much 
to heart that lie went melancholy mad and pined 
aw»y, Geo. Cleohorn. 

D&URT HousK, — I suppose that the Drury 
Hiovue, where the ^'Committee for the s&le of 
sequeilarated lands " sat durinj; the Commonwealth^ 
was the one in Beech Lanet Barbican, The house 
was cither built by, or belonged to, Sir Drew 
Drury, and Prince Rupert resided there. I shouM 
be glad to have further authentic particulars about 
thia houae. Cunningham only slifrhtly mentions 
it* I should also much like to know whether there 
ia any print of it, t^mp. Charlon I, or IL Did the 
house hdong to Rupert when it was sequestrated 
bf the Parliament? Henrt W. Henfrey, 

$, Queen Anne's Oate^ 8*W. 

Tms, Blssssi) TaisTL«.—Iii Switzerland the 
Omrduu* B€al%i9, or Biased TkisiU, ia said to have 
obi»tn«d its white marka from the droppings of 
Hhi Vir^'s milk. la thia legend known in other 
parts? A* McRirniajf* 

Hi£BALDia — A (entitled to be&r arms) leaves a 
Hon, B, and a daughter, 0. B marries^ and has an 
only daughter and heir, D, whose children are of 
courae entitled to quarter their mother's arms. 
C also marries and has children. Can the chUdren 
of C, Jiftcr the death of B, also quarter their 
mother'ti arms, or do the heraldic honours descend 
to D.'s children only 1 E. 

Baooms anp Powell FAmxtvsL — Can any 
^genealogical atudent point out whether any, and if 



any, what connexion exists between the family 
of Brooke^ of which Dr, Zachars' Fninlr who waa 
elected Margaret Professor at V [ n ^sm- 

uary, 1705, was a member, an uiily 

PowclJ, many mem bets of whtoh are buned in 
so-called Huguenot churchyard at Wandsworth 

B, P. 

Sir Throdore TtrRQirrT r>E MAvru^jF —I 
shall feel much indebted to nny per III 

tell me what were the arms borne by tli i t ed 

phyRician, Ralph N. Jaxbs. 

Ashfgrii, Ktnt. 

LoKDOK CoatPANixs, OR GiTiLDS^^ Where oan I 
find the datea of their faundotion? R. W. F,^ 

" Qri» HOC AD Tphtcu doves."— From whenoa 
comes this proverb T It is used by Scott in the 
novel of Ktnilwortk^ chapter ix. Erasmus doe* 
not jjivc it in his Adaguu The oxen of Iphyclus 
are mentiotned in the Odyssty, H. C 

W. W. Story, the sculptor, and author of thi|_ 
exquistte k>ok of poems entitled Orn '!u 

Has iherre beien a portrait publi^^hcd o; 
man ; if »o, when, where, and price ? uko ol Jie 
Perkina, of Haaworth Fjirk, the Bibliophile I 


Wrlss Slaths.— The names given to the Vi 
nbxM of slates in Wales are queens, duchesses, 
QOtmtessee, ladies, &c. ; and I aoe, by a newspaper 
cutting of 1839, that these n.imes— 

'' Drew frotn the iwn of the Into Mr. Lejcasler, wh» 
WM tuaajr years « j<*d^o on tho \XAah Circuit, » refy 
wittj poem, ef which ihe following Imoi will w^rr^ ia • 
Bpt^etiueii : — 

* Tbi* eomteH or >m17. thouf^b crowris may be prMeni* 
Snboiiti t» to dreoed bv the haadi of a pcMuit ; 
And you'U Me, whon her grmco U hut odco in Ills 

With howr little rcapoct ho will handle a duchrts.' " 

Will any one kindly give me, through the 
medium of " K. & Q,," or direct, the whole of the 
lines? A. E. 

Croeawjlan, Osweetiy. 

Lord GoLLiirowooD. — Neither in l%t. ExUntot 
Furag^ nor in Tk* Landtd Gentry can I fisid aii7 
afiooiant of the near relatives of the heroic admiral 
He had & aiater named Sarah, who married a 
^ntleman named Barker. Can any of the readern 
of " N. ^ Q.** afford information on thia Hubject 1 


Mart SoKBRTmLS.— In the Prr^^-^"^ J^rr^J. 
Z^diotit of Ihui Admirable lady,ut p. 1 
ahe tpeikkii of the DtffrrrnL, a Oilr 
•* now sitpoisoded by 1 1 
to be infomied what !<ii 
If the referencp is to the new Algebra four 
ProfeasorB OfiyJey and Sylvester, and ex[» 
by Dr. Salmon, I see no senae in ih^ remark. B^U 




iiasurpdljr Mrs. SomerviUe was not a person to 
write noniienic on any maihematicftl (|U&stioo. 

Aibeiueuni Ctub. 

'* Thb Milleknium/'— Cttii you mform mo who 
tf the author of thij^ dramatic poem, 1847, by 
•*0[oicron/' author of EUmJtnts of Truths Paulus, 
Pfid/t and Prejudk^r &c, J 11. Ihglis. 

Proat, Verb Nkijteiu — 
h€t not lii now be like inllen chickeoE, whkh tit 

. ttig antier A rottt^n hed>(e^ or priMtuut under an old 

VQod'pilo, when the hen calleth them. ""Thomas FuUer, 
A C^mmtni on. Ruth (1030-1), p, HI. ed, ISSb. 

What is the exAct meaning of the verb praat^ 
And what ia its etymology ? F. H. 


RLTF^T WooDcrr WITH a Bati, — What is 
of the woodcut in the Bibliothetiue de 
-ne In Briias^lB, which bears tlic date 1418 ? 
H. FisnwicK, F.S.A. 

HoMAjr Catholic Laxdkd Okntrt, temt. 
Cbarlbs II. AtTD James IL— Can yoa ^ve me 

an-' '•■♦'^-"Tition re^pectinff the property held by 
i\ Ciitholic hmded gentry about the time 

*'y^ IL or Jumes IL / In what counties 

v. most numerous, or held the KToatesit 

qi if land? Is there any book published 

vbjoh givea an account of them at that time ? 

(5»J» S. ii. 8.) 

AmoAgit the numerous adTaniages which 
■*H. h i)/* offers to literiiry students, there i» 
cicwj which ia very liable to abuse — I mean the 
^pr..r. ,,„ f,. ..♦*•., rded for resuscitating old and 
1 > from the limbo of oblivion, and 

pi\.., I info a temporary vitality. One 

«jcli II II the number quoted above. 

It uri;» inoQvmous persi>nha3 writtea 

('- ' to a clergyman convey log the 

V nation that a cert^iin Miaa C 

hn^ publt»b»_*d a tmn^liition, for private circulation^ 
* from a Prt-nrh My>, copy in the British Museum 
t*( "j£ of fhf .Sf*>ir^?, by Guillaume de 

<• md that "her object in publish- 

in^ li' J i; is to phow that Bunyan't 

Ptlfr\7H*^ ' tienrly rtrhiUim a copy of 

ihia rare v. ' sv alterations here and 

IhcTv to ^n ori;jjinality," 

1 car: - r ^^vper — 

" ') ' i wbo knowi no bettor 

1 ,V |K» l-.»i^.. 

Must L 

T]i9 ftory on the iuw ui ii ia idlo^tkei aboard* 

Seeing that the work in question wa» ttansl tted 
into English and t^rinted by Caxton in 1483, ope 

cannot understand why Mi^ C should have 

given hen^elf the trouble of again translating it, 
particularly as her laudable dcaign of proving 
Bunyan a plagiarist was to be limited to a ** private 

This wretended discovery is raereljr the revival 
of an ola fallacy which has been again and again 
disposed of. 

Dr. Dibdin, in his Typographical AniiquUiu 
(vol. L p. 153), called attention to this volume, 
'' an ejctraordinary production, which, pe^ha^>s, 
rather than Bernard's liU of Matt, laid the founda- 
tion of John Bunyan's PUgrim'^ Progress." The 
learned Doctor apparently meant nothing more 
than that the idea of an allegory of the Christian's 
pilgrimage might (though very improbably) have 
been suggested by the book in question. The 
assertion that the Pilgrittis Progress is copied 
nearly verbatim from De Guilleville's work can 
only be accounted for on the charitable supposition 

that the anonymouH MissC-^ had never read 

Bunyan s immortal allegory. 

Any person who ia curious on the subject will 
find the whole matter set out ut length in Otfor's 
edition of Bunyan's works (vol iii*, p. 33), where 
an analysis of the French work, with copiuUH 
extmcts, is given, which demonstrates thjit there 
is no founi£ition whatever for the charge of. 
copyism or phigiarism. The basis of the older/ 
work vi the adventures of the soul after death La^ 
purgatory and hell, with angels and penonifiedl 
attributes for the dramatU fttrsona. The drift of 
the two works in utterly diseimilar. 

In the last number of " N. & Q.'^ (p, 39) a letter 
is inserted copied from the Cruardiati, written by 
the Rev. W, J. Stracey, in which the ground is , 
somewhat changed. It now appears that it ia not' 
the Ptfltp-itiuige of iht HovpU but Lt Pchrinagt d»\ 
V Homme which is to prove Buoynn a pln^arisL I 

Mis3 U ia turned adrift, with the remsrk that j 

" to look for coincidences between the P^rimag^A 
of ifie Smde and the Pilgrim'^ Progrun is usetei^ J 
as the latter enda where the former begins."! 
Would it not have been as well to have ascertained J 
this before nishing into print with so serious a 
charge against Bunyan as that of "nearly ver- 
batim ** copy ism \ 

The Book^ of iht, P^lgrima^e of Man is a small 
brochnrc^ in the Lihrar^'of Qucen'sf " ^ /> i _* 
transUtedf it would appear, from 

dcCH ^ ' i stated to be in u,v ^ 

Libr :'. I have not seeii 

thestj v.v. r, ., - ;.. Offor hv* nv.^n tl ,[ 

titles, with eJctrjMJts from the Ei hich 

enables the readier to judge i . .1 the 

contents. The scope o( the tract— tor it is nothtiig 
more— is an acc<Juut of Adam in Paradise, of the 
batlding of Babel, of Moses and Solomon^ of^the 


coming of the Siiviour. Then commences the 
pil^image of mankind^ ** which entoreth the londe 
of June at the age of lx." Mankind are then 
panided through the different months, and the 
book concludes with a hattle between Justice and 
Vice, when Jvistice finally triumphs. How any 
rescmbUmce can be found between this and the 
PilfjrinCi Frogrefis passes my com prehension. If 
the mere allusion to a pilgrimage, which almost 
necessjirily includes an allegory, is to constitute 
plagiarism, there are a score of books which might 
equally involve Bunyan in the accusation. It is a 
singular fact that these charges all deal in ^Tigne 
generalities. When put tt> the test, I am not aware 
that a single passage in Bunyan has ever been 
tniced to any other source. Shakspeare might 
erjually he accused of plagiarism, because his plots 
were derived from the legendary chronicles of his 
time. If there had been any such close resem- 
bUnce as is attempted to be shown, it is incredible 
that the older works, so long since translated into 
English, should have been allowed to sink into 
oblivion, whilst the glorious epic (it is worthy of 
being called Buch) of the in.spired tinker has 
delighted successive genemtions for two hundred 
years, and bids fair to endure aa long as the 
iangija^ in which it is written. J. A. Picton. 
Sundylcnowe, Wavertree. 

The poem of Gnillaume de GuiUeville was 
published in London by B. M. Pickering, 196, 
Piccadilly, 1858, and entitled, " Lc Pdtrinage de 
X'i/ommi; com pared with the Filgrini 8 Progress of 
John Bunyan. Edited from Notes collected by the 
lute Mr. Nathaniel Hill, of the Royal Society of 
Liteniture, with Illustrations and an Appendix.'* 
The liooki'. of the Pylgrtmnge of the iS'orr/r;, trans- 
lated from the French of G. de GuilleviUe, 
printed by W. Caxton in 1483, was published 
the yeiir foU owing by B. M. Pickering, edited 
by Kntherinc Isabella Oust. The MS. before 
me, from which the above was taken, is in 
excellent preservation. The date appears on the 
last folio (1413), in rubric : — ** Here endith the 
dreem of the pilgrimage of the soide translated 
owt of frensch in to Englysch. The yeer of oure 
lord MccccxMJ"'^\ Verbifc trans latoris," For a 
review of these works, see GenL Mag., 1859, p, 582, 
and the Dublin Frteman^s JoitmaL 

W. Winters, F.R.H.5^. 

WnlthAm Abbey. 

I sh.ill be very glad to lend my copy of Lc 
Pdtrinage dc VEmnmc to Mr. BLENKiNSOPr, if he 
will writ© to me for it. A. F. C» 

Harringiijn Rcctgryi CwliAle. 

Single Ette-Glassks (5*^S. i. 489.)— Some good 
practical obfiervation on the advantage of double 
over single eye-glasses and opera-glasses will be 

found in Dr. Kitchener's Economy of tht Eyes^ 
Loud., 1824. He says, in pp. 15 and Hi : — 

^^ SpectHcles &re always pneftrrftble, beeati«<d both eyes* 
by being kept in scdon. ure kept in health. Vition is 
brighter and easier, and the labour of each is cou- 
fitdermbly IcfAened. If persons will lave (l ringte eye- 
glass, let them take care to use it without partiality, and 
put it to each eye alternately.'' 

A donble eye-glass is better for the eye«, hut 
rather cumbrous slung round the neck, and 
troublesome to open on every trifling ocoasion. 
Being very short-sighted, I use a single glass, but 
apply it to the left eye with the right hand, and 
tice varsa^ By so doing, the eye not used is 
covered by the wrist^ and its focuft is not disturbed, 
I believe the common practice of sticking a glass 
over one eve to be very injurious to both. 

H. B. a 

U. U, Club. 

The following appeiired in the Lancet of June 
27th (p. 924), after Mr. Ellis'^ query was pul>- 
iii^hed in ** N. & Q." It almost seems as if written 
as a reply to it ; — 

'*8i.'«oLK Fa'E'Glassks.— Of all the folliea of humini 
f^itbiori, perhaps none is more ridiculoua than that of 
placini^ before one eye a circular piece of glasS} through 
which the wearer cannot see, and which he cai^not even 
hold in po«itioQ without considerable facial distort ion. 
Ifj however, no more harm were done than thi«, th« 
foolish practice mi|iht be left to bo dealt with by tho 
caricaturiBt. Unfortunately there arc person?, wlio 
really require the aid of lensef, who prefer a kiugle eye- 
gliies to ordinary *pectjiclcB. Speaking pncrally, tlie 
use of £uch glasses is to be condemned. With a tingle 
eye glftgs, most of the work is thrown on to on© eye ; 
while the opposite eye, from disuse or want of correc- 
tion, becomes gradually deteriorated. The hannonioua 
woi'kinga of the ocular inu^cicf are interfered with, and 
weakncM and deviationa of the muccles ensue. But, 
eren optically, single eyo-jitlaafea are bud, because it ia^ 
not poM-ible to properly adjust tbem, so that the retinal 
images arc unfavoumldy affected. The popula^rfallaciet 
conci-ming the us© of eye-glasses and spectacle* are in- 
numerable ; but none are more reprehensible than those 
Gonccming the single eye-glass and the ordinary ^ince- 

S PARKS Henderson* Williahs. 

I liave used a aingle glass for my left eye for 
more thiin a quarter of a century. I find the 
sight of that eye as good as ever it was ; but the 
rigki eye has lost its power^ and I cannot now 
read with it tdone. I think it probable that this 
loss of seeing power results from noD-usef and 
that the eye might improve if, from any cause, it 
were eaJJed on to supply the function now dis- 
charged by the left eye solely. I have tried 
double ^flasses, but without benefit, F. I). F. 


Byron's *' Siege of Cohinth " (5»*^ S. i. 465.) 
^The first quotation is not from the "Biege of j 
Corinth," which thus begins :— 
" Many a vanished year and age. 
And tempett's breatbi and battle s mg^/' He, 


S*' i U. Jott 1«^ 7«.l 



— ^^t fmin *'T/mp- hif^nde^i for the opening of the 
Byron wrote in imitation 
»I»el|'- of which he wiis u 
^i\ii.i 4i>^itiii*it, Tlitrn^ lines ara given by Moore 
m hia Life of Bijron^ *' iis too full of chamcter and 
•pint to be lo4t," beginning as follows : — 
" In the year iincc Jeiua died for toco, 
Eighteen huodred jenrs and tea. 
We were a iifMUatit company. 
Riding o'er Jand^ »nd taillnjr <ttr seiL 
Uh f but yte wutit merrilj ! '' kc. 

In a letter to Murray, after forwarding the MS. 
of the Sufie of Corinth^ referring to these linei«, 
vrhich were written in December, 1815 — the poem 
as it Wft» publifllied dated 22nd Jtinaar^', iyi<J, — 
b« say* :— ** I hiid forgotten them, and ain not 
»ai« but ibey had better be left out now ; on that 
you And your synod can determine." They were 
not inserted. 

It i^, indeed, as Mn. Suirti says, "a strange 

' ' ' " ihi^ dating the Chriatian year from our 

"leath insteud of from the Nativity ; but 
.. .. .. nuW Htnmger blunder that he Bhould have 

tixed bis date at the 18U)th year after the death 
of Our Lord, wh'ch would be the year a.d* 1M3, 
f cir lU yeara after Byron's own deiith ! The date 
IcttOFjot have reference to the year when the siege 
\t)( Corinth took place, namely, 1715 ; but the 
[lioeA S4fem t<» allude to the poet's travclfl in Greece 
la 1810-11, in company of Mr. Hobhouse. 

** We were a gall&ut company," 
[be oy0, 

. «... '^ of all tonguei and crcedi ; 
8ome were ilio«« who eouutcd ben^Mt 
SotM af moBque, and lome of cliurrli^ 
And tome, or i mit-tay, of neither; 
Yet throui^h tlie wido world ye may eearch^ 
Nor find * lootticr crew nor blither.'* 

y ** motley crew ** were evidently his follower*, 

nt whym Virete some Arnaout^, to whom he 

reference in a foot-note. Apropos of this 

I Use poen), it h.'iH l>een remarked th^it the lines in 

[Ooleridge'a W(u EfloQUt^ Firu Famine^ and 

" f ^f.^..A ir, d «vroin|,y field of battle, 

- and ikutU 1 made a rattle, 
iL tbe wulf, and the carrion crow, 
AjfJ ibc L^irjclefi dog, but tliej vroald not go," 

may hare suggested to Byron the well-known 

1'^ And he taw the lean dogi beneath the wall, 
tiold o'er the d«ad thilr carnival,'' kc. 
w. A. a 
I doubt whether there be any mistake in the 
liticr m^mase quoted from Lord Byron's Sitffe nf 
Omimtk* The cujtom of neceiving communion in 
both kjfida wa ' ^ . umong Koman Catholiea 
inthf>£aai K<i had been left ofi' in the 

I WtM- f luive iM»i uii Uink at hand, but I think 
' eontspondent {onfliiltii Webb's VontinenUd 

EcdfMolog^ he will tind a notice of some largo 
dialice^i, wFiich btwl been miide for this purpose, 
lliat are stdl preserved at ^'enice. K. P. D. E. 

GttAKTS Ot' Nomt^tTT TO FoHBIONERS (5^ S. J, 

447, 516.)— The Dutdt fiimily of Tulp, created 
baronets of England April 23, 1675, is, according 
to Riet>>tap, extinct. That of Spcelman, created 
baroncta June 4 and Bcpt. i), 1686, appears to l>e 
yet flourishing ; their family arms still bear, on a 
cunton, the badge of Ulster, but I do not know 
whether the present representative assumes the title 
of bjironet, or is content with the rank of ** Jonk- 
hecr," conferred on the family in September, 1817. 
His name does not appear iu the latest baronetage 
I have at Jmnd. 

The Dutch family of Senserf, now extinct, held 
an English baroaetcy, and bore the badge of 
Ulster ; and as this indication of nink still 
appears in the arms of the family of Kievit, of 
Holland, I t\m led to believe that it wa« similarly 

The Mackays, Barons Reay of Scotland, are 
baronets, and of thei*e titles, Eneas, Baron Mackay 
d'Ophemert, in the kingdom of the Netherhinds, i% 
the heir presumptive. The ** grants of nobility "of 
the original query (5*** S. i.447) were wbfit we should 
call "grants of arwu," not of peerage nobility. 
Abroad, every artnujer who can prove his right la 
use armorial bearings is a " noble.'* It is one of 
the modem popular errors of our own country 
to suppose that nobility is confined to membera 
of the i>eeragc and their children. This really 
utterly absurd and entirely insular notion haa 
been most ably confuted in a little book which 
deserves to be much more widely known, especially 
in these days, when so many of our countrymen 
flock in search of he:dth or recreation to the Con- 
tinent, — I mean The Nobility of the £ngli*ft 
Gentry^ by Sir James Lawrence. 

Many ap(>otntment^ at foreign courta, and moiat 
milittiry commissions in foreign armies, oould only 
be held by ** nobles '* : and the grants of nobility, 
which form the subject of the quer}*, gave to their 
holders, whether foreigners or Kngh.shmen, the 
right to use armorial bearings, and so i|ualitied 
them for these offices* 

Simil.*ir certificates of '* nobility** have, to my 
own knowledge, been required within a recent 
period from aspirants to commissions in the 
Au'^trian servioe. Any one who examines the 
lists of graduates at foreign universities (say at 
Padna or Hi idelberg) will tind many English and 
Scotch men correctly designated as nobues whoae 
parents had no pretensions to peerage dignity. 
Multitudes of foreign barons and eounta are, in 
every respect, including nobility, the inferiora Ckf 
an old English gentleman. 

The Parsonage, Meotrote. 

I am aware of one case of a foreigner baronet » 
f\%.y Boreel, of the Hague. The present holder of 
the title is Sir WOlem Boreel : he is n senator of 
Holland, And ia, or has heen. n Minister of State. 
He was born in ih& year l&MK Curiously enough, 
his sister miirried, in li»14, Willenj, Count de 
Tv% i^le-Ginkel, the Lwit Karl of Athlone in the 
1 . Liripje of Ireland, whose title became extinct at 
hiH death, in 1844. NuuMX's. 

The baronetcy of Van Coulster, conferred 
kyebrnary 28th, 1645^ is staled (vi(U Burke's Exiind 
fSarondage^ 1841^ p. 541) to have become extinct 
At tlie decease of the first baronet, about 1065. 

G, Garwood. 

** A Stick of Eels " (6"^ S. i. 48!>.)— The follow- 
ing (|Uotatioa furnishefl tm answer to the query, 
liow much is a stick f — 

** A itick of fish, a term applied to eels when itrung on 
arowr, * 81C dicta, qmKi trujectn vimine (quwl gUc dicimui) 
ConnectatjAntar '; t'ipeimaft., A H>r.(i doiisiisted gf 25 etildj. 
and W^lkix xtLtde & bimie; Gl&iir. lib, ii. c. 9/' 

Tbis ia a note by Sir F. Madden, reprinted in 
my edition of Havclok Ou Dane, fi.v. Stacj in the 
Ciiossari&l Index, p. 144. 

Walter W, Skeat. 

Cintra Terraee, Ciimbridge. 

HoQARTH^a ** Marriagf. a la Mode " {4^^ S. 
viiL 164,)— RuoiiDuging **N. & Q/' for scraps 
•►bout this Beries of pictures, I came on Mr. W. 

iJBATBs's querj^ accompanying a quotation from 
"M. F. Wey'B preciouf* Lvndns %l y a CtntAiis, The 
extract and the quesition which arisen from it refer 
to the existence of u certain Jkvr dt lU m the 

fourth plate of ** Marriage \\ la Mode.'^ M, Wey 
ne^erts — 

'All del du tit de la cotntefec on Toit unc Caorrae 
i!eiir de lb, dont In vigiiif^cation conHrnio ajisez Ics 

■iiitdisitnces de Tautfiur de CmtdK/e sur Jn eociC-to do ce 

R"t«mp8-li, m tone.qutf p-ur i3n»bolt««r lu mCino idcQ chci 
nous, au lieu de rtcoui ir ^ IVcuasun di? Fmrice, on eUi 
I>luc6 d&nB un caJre le portrait de Chrbtophe Colomb.*' 
Mr. Batkb inquirer?, what are the .sign ificiit ion 
twd idea alluded to iu this passacjo 1 I cannot 
venture to nay what Hor^^arth mifjlit have intended 
by the introduction of a jf^/ur de I in in this posi- 
tion, but ihc fact in be did not introduoe the 
evmbol ftt all, for no such thini? exists in the 
deaign. There is, indited, on the wooden cornice of 
the bedhtciid an ornament comprising three leaves, 
and having a very va^e reseuibluace to a y^«r de 
lis^ but it is only such a^ the debased tiiste of the 
Conotesi! Kipuindertielda upholsterer produced on 
the model of a Jhur dc tis^ and long after the 
beauty of that symbolic flower had become in- 
visible to the groji* vision of the tradesmun and 
bis customcrt* Your correspondent says that he 
coidd find no hint on the subject in TruKler, 
Nicbob, or the exhaustive commentary of Lichten- 
berg* No wonder. But it Mr, Bates cures to 

track the steps of M. Wey in error, let hini 
to M- Jansen's AnahjMti di hi BcauU, &c., *' do i 
Hogarth,' <Sfcc., *' mii^k d'urt^ fwticc ckroriQla^H 
hutoriqiie,** &a, Paris, An xiu., 1805, il. p, 
and read — 

'■^ II no rcsto plus qu'ane petite ciroonst&nce h ob 
mftia cctte Imgatetle e<t uue cspcco d'^nigme, Au ci^ 
du lit do la coait^ase on volt uae gmtido il«ur do \f 
Que peuvent aignlfier let amies dc Fraaoo attaches J 
lit d une dame Anglaue? " 

F. G. S. 

Stanley of BiRMiNGtiAM (b^^ S, L 388.)— Two 
of Stanley's tunes, " Montjromery ■* and " Dove] 
dale," appear in Waite's naltrlujah and The Ci 
grcgalioiial Fsalmut (Allon and Gauntlett^s), ai 
most other collections ; the latter sometimes as 
** Stonefield." E. A. P. 

Robert de Wyctjf (5^*^ S. i. 147.)— In reply 
Mr. Furnivall, I always understood that Jol 
Wyclif was of the family of Wyclif or Wyclyffe, 
Wyclif, CO. York (1) : and I think I have seen 
printed pedigree showing it. Probably, this villeii 
Robert Wyclif, was of tiiat family ; because, fi 
the provision made by law that a nobleman orfi 
man might volunt.arily become a villein by acknoi 
1 edging himself as such in a Court of Record, it 
not improbable that many sold themaelve*^ ini 
villenage— younger descendants, for instance, 
freemen of every rank. These, as far as i 
memory carrier me, would become villeins 
gross. The females were called neifa, as, 
course, Mr. Furntvall must know. And, if a 
villein married a free womiin, their issue would 
not be thereby enfntncbtssed ; but I think the old 
Reports show no nettled law as to the enfranchise- 
ment of the issue of the marriage of a nief with 
freeman. I thought this singtifar in my studei 
days that, as late as Littleton's time, the law 
unsettled on this point, and I therefore rememl 
it, I think, accurately ; but, as the lord of the 
nief would have an action against the freeman for 
the marriage, 1 think it pretty certain the childrei 
if not the mother herself, would be manumitti 
See more in the cap. -^n villenage in Littleton, 
copy of which I have not at hand. 

The information Mr. FtiRNivALL has previonsl 
given is very interesting. It is an entirely ne' 
fact to me thiit a villein cotdd hold any part of 
lordship, I mean manorial rights over estatos in tf 
|^>09 session of others, as welt as in hiis own. TiH 
in fact, he could 7iot hold theni^ except on 
For^ were he the villein of king or ^' 
manor, lands, or other e-st4ite^ would instjini 
become lii« mjister's ; and, if he sold it, the 
could even follow it, though the subject could 
Therefore* Robert Wyclif wns the mere n^ni 
his lord m the purchase of the r 
allowed to hold it, probably, by tS * of 

rent. (I) In still earlier timenj it not ub late 


iae- I 




V* 8. II. JoiT IS, 74 ] 




ScJwoid ilL or RIchani IL, certain freemen even 
(snch as tho?^ of villein de:%cent) could not kold 
brdsbip over the dotl, tboagh they could acquire 
land. A manoriiJ estate in the early Plantn^net 
times mnked among the highest, and the possessor 
of throe iimoor« and upwards waa e^toemed a nuijor 
hATon — ranked with tne greater noblea* Thk waA, 
of course, before the formation of the Hotues of 
PKrlmment. It will, therefore, be undeiistood, us 
Ibe more surprising, that Mr. Furnivall baa fished 
Dp the t^vidcnce he has, that, about a century after 
the e«tabli&hment of a regular Parliament, we find 
ft villein in possession of manorial rights, even on 
coflemttoe. H. T. 

PA Was Dot Eobert WydiC, in fact, a trostee? 
Many were the concealed trtists of those days^ and 
many, too» were the abuses arif^ing out of them. 
A ntan had absolute possession by one deed, and a 
decJamtion of the tmsts in another. He perhaps 
filed, and all hi« trust property, if knights' fees, 
were sonietiuies aceouoted his own on his InquUi- 
timi vmt trwrt. His heir would still hold in trust 
for the real owner, and, perhaps for generations 
and generations, the-entail (if any) would never be 
docked« and the iiin;^^:? fees on eivch InqmMon 
p64t nujtL of the successively dying tniateea 
would be paid by the ixecutors, and afUrwarde 
charged to the tm^t e^uite. As the estate was not 
ftbown ti6 that of the owner (or, as lawyers say, 
<€*tui que iLifi), so many in those troublous, yet 
merryt oA<i tiiues altogether escaped forfeiture. 

*• BosiJ '♦ (S*** S. L 389.)— Kedhouse renders Urn 
Turric //rWj, empty, vain, useless, and hosh hdirdt\ 
tionsfcnjie ; but this word ia iirobably an itbbi'eviH- 
lion of tho felftn^ term kihom or hjboah^ doubtless 
corrupted from cui bono* K. B. Charnock. 

Gr*y'i Inn* 

** Ni5WT.T>- "' i'l^^ S. iL a)— There are two New- 
hnwi, or rather St. Newlyn?, both in Cornwal! ; 
<^T ' '' ' ' 'lie A bctrough of Grampound, 
ti h of St. Paul by Pen/iince. 

Iii.,..u.>^ .i..^i^ Mii^iiL I'uraiflh au answer. 


If A* £. W. have not coined this word for the 
title of his novel, perhaps it may be explaiaed as 

Sgal to New Linn* which latter ' ' tch 

^ Miancs render by ** precipice or 1 

•MftUo tlic name Newlinp in CrockUnu ^ < untal 
JHmUfry. C. F. S. Warrex, MA 

ZiHZAS 8TILKKT (S*"* S. ii. i)) would fieem to 
hav# iC« name from a Kurniuues. The IJiU. Reading 
(l^ad., IM12, p. 451 ;, apeaking of the prtttent 
•tale of the town, flays : — 

**T\\* i<hop Laud hftd pro- 

)- tho ruw of bouiw 

between Back Lane and Sun Lane, but thoso which 
stand bctivton Fisbcr Row and Butcber ILow» and to 
have made Broad Street, in wbieh he wa^ born, a very 
cxiennvo street, by continDtug it tip to Mr, Gor^y now 
Mt«. Zintan'fl, at the end, and on the other to the 
' Saracea'i Head." " 

I was at first inclined to think that tho name 
Zin^an was corrupted from 8injin, i,6.^ St. John, 
or allied to the French names Sins, Sinns, Binsard ; 
or perhaps derived from O. Fr. itjnxin^ cousin, 
parent, alli^ (also xyn^ Jt^r, cousin, cousine, Ac): 
but I take it that the name is mthcr from Alex- 
ander, Amonjs the burials in 8t. Lawreoce'a 
Register for 1625 is *' Mr» Andrew Zinzano, clV$ 
Alexander"; and among the marriages for 1663 is 
** Peter Alexander, oftti* Zinzan, and Judith 
Gunter." R. S. Charkock* 

Gray's Inn. I 

The name of this street in the town of Reading | 
is without doubt atttibutable to the fact of thes 
Zinzan family being possessed, for two or three 
generations, of the manor of Tilehurst, and of other 
hinds and tenements near to and within the town 
of Reading. The property was acouired by the 
marriage of Henry Zinzan with Jncoba, the eldest 
of the three daughters and co-heirs of Sir Peter 
Vanlore, of Tilehurst, Kt. and Bart, (as I have 
shown in the Eer. and Gen., i. 371). 

From a monumental inscription formerly in 
Tilehurst church, but now out of sight, we learn 
that Ucnry Zinzano, alui^ Alexander, died on the 
18th November, 1676, and JacoV*a, his wife, the 
22nd June^ 1677, and that both were buried at 
Tilehurst, They had istue a son, Henry Zinzano, 
bom 2nd January, 1633, and four daughter*, who 
were all baptised at Tilehurst. 

The first of the family that is met with in Eng- 
land was Sir Robert Zinssano, alias Alexander 
(Haid to have been an Italian noble), of St. Albans, 
HcrtH, and Bailiff of the royal Liberty of St. 
Albansf. His eldest son was Sir Sigismond Zinzan, 
Kt., of Molesey, Snr- - - V^ mairied Margaret^ 
daughter of Sir Phil , Kt,, of co, Notting- 

bum, and died in Ib^-.. Iwcy had i*sue several 
children, the eldest of whom, Henrj^ Zinzano, mar- 
ried Jficoba Vunlore, and became of Tilehurst in 
right of bis wife. B. W- GftKExriKLO. 


"SiTUATK*' {b^ a L 407.)-W. E. oaks, "Is 
the use of this wortl in the preterite correct?" 
and adds that "the |">aat tense, according to all 
analog^', ia situaicd, and m it is generally u»ed." 
In reply, I would ask, are there any examples of 
the use of the word as a verb bv nnv tt'<tH^ctable 
writ^-r f To me it appeare tt rifde 

W. ¥jk gives of it in the ** past i 1.4 an 

odjecttTe fallowing a substAntivc verb in tho pi^ 
tent© :— 

** A goodly orchard ground W9B iUuaiit.'' 

It ia not ^ttitfe Qbviwa mh^- mUml^ ihwiM h^^auk* 


[ri'»'S. ii.juu i$.7c 

sidered more " slipshod " than adequate^ co7tunen' 
miraic^ sedate^ or any other luijective in ale. Surely 
the term is more upplicuble to aituakd^ a partici- 
piftl form, auggefitive of a siiuaUrf one who situates. 

The question raised by W. E, is based on an 
entirely false assumption. In the sentence quoted, 
" situate '* is not the preterite^ nor is it a verb at all, 
but an adjective, and its use as such, and in pre- 
eisely the senite quoted, is perfectly in accordance 
with well-established usage. In law papers the 
udjeetive situate its in constant use in thia country, 
as well as in England, though its use otherwise is 
much less frequent here than there. 

GAaxoN Djs Bkrneval, 


Is it not Hither W. E.^g own expression which 
is ** slipshod " i Does he not imagine a iKirticiple 
and then invent a verb for it } Tliere is no verb 
to situati in Johnson, nor is it " accord ipg to all 
analogy ■* to form our present infinitive from a 
Latin past participle. H. D. C. 

Falcoxkt tue Artist (5*^ S. ii, 8,)— Falconet 
was an artist, painter and sculptor, employed on 
the statue of Peter the tlreat at St. Petersburg, 
nnd created in reward a noble as the ** High Bom '' 
—truly, so said Falconet^ I was born iu an attic. 
I have a portrait by hiiu of his wife, or declared 
to be so in the catiilogiic— a careful! y-finiahed, 
pleasant picture, which has iiadergone the criticism 
and approval of many celebrated British artists. 
I bought it at the StRiwberry HiU sale, 

H, P. S. 

The Gaithnian'A Magazine, 1808, voL i. p. 5, 
speaks of a port mi t of a Mr. Kirby psunted by 
P. Falconet. The ^<iime pcriodiciil^ 1790^ vol. ii. 
p. 667, i^ives, under July 1, the njiirriage of "John 
Lewis Theodore Depalizeux Fidconet, Esq.^loMisa 
Anne Hunter, of Khode Ishind. 

Edward Pjcacx)ck. 

Pierre Falconet was the son of fitienne Maurice 
Falconet^ the celebrated sculptor. Ro«e (Biog. 
IHd. 18!)7) merely says he was a painter of i»rtraits 
and historicftl subjects. He visited L<jndon in 1766, 
and gained two prizes from the 8<iciety of Arts. 
Sparks Hendeb^ok Williams. 

Gray's ** ElettV** (5*^ S. j, 466.)— Breen, in his 
Modem EnqlUh Literature^ p. :231, traces Gray's 
stanm to the Kntin couplet :— 

•* PluriinA gemma lutct caca tellurc c^pulta ; 
Plurima n^glccto fmgrat «hdore rosa," * 

Biihop Hall has a ptimllel to the first two lines :— 

** T])«re ii many a rich Atone laid up in the bowels of 
the eartlj, m&ay ft fair pear) in tlie bo«9m of the ieu^that 
never wm s«en. nor ever will be." 

The last line occurs in the same words in 
Churchill : — 

'* Nor waste their sweetoese in tie desert %\t,** 
And also in Lloyd :— 

** Which else bad waated in tbe desert air/* 
In Habington's Cattara (Arbers Reprint, p. 28) 
the following lines are found :^ 

'* III » d:irkc care* which never eye 
Could by hia subtlest ray descry. 
It doth like a rich minerall lye.'* 
In Wallers beautiful song, (?o, lovely iio»K I 
find a parallel to the second half of the stan?^ :— 
'* Tell her that *g young, 
And shuns to bave her f^races spied, 
That had'ftt tbou vprung 
In deserts, wbero no men abide. 
Thou must have uncommendcd died." 
The idea also occurs in Shelley^s Utvolt of htoAS^ 
canto i, 16 :— 

•* There was a woman, beautiful us morning, 
Silting boncutb the rock», upon the sand 
Of the waflte sea, /air as oiuHoiDtr adoriiiu^ 
An.icjf wUdemeu.'* 

T. Macorath. 

*'TopoQRAPniA HraKRNirA** of Gfralous Cam- 
BRENsis (ri*** S. i. 389.)— This work was translated 
into Englisli by Hoi ins lied j but perhaps the 
translation most readily procurable by a Natu- 
ralist is B(>hn*8 edition^ published in 1863, and 
edited by Thomas Wright, Strange to say, no 
reference is made to it under the name of either 
author or editor in Bohn's edition of Lowndes. 
Gajbton de Bebkbval. 


Edwards, of America (5*** S. i. 408.)— I en- 
close a cut of the arms borne by the family of 
Jonathan Edwardj*, imthor of Tltr Freedom of the 
WiU. I infer that the Kdwardses of Salop are of 
the same family, and if so I wonUl bo glad to oor- 
rcs^wnd directly with U. B, in re^^uni to the 
geuealogicjil table he is getting up. 

We have but little information about our family 
previous to their emigration from Enghind ill 
1640, or about any of the English branches. 1 am 
a great-great-grandson of Jonathan Edwards. 

Wm. B. Edwards. 

Pittshui^gbi Fennejlvanift. 

Therp-Cakb (6^' a i. 4i4.)— Ma. Fibhwjcb: 
has quoted two lines of the Visioii of Purt Plow- 
man where this cake is mentioned ; and siys that 
in Lancjishire nre cakes cjiUed thar and fAaiA-cakes. 
I notice this to add that in Scotknd are cakea 
called eaar-cakcif (pr, sic), compounded of flour or 
meal, eggs and sugitr, with what is there called 
hcaitic-milk, which is that taken from the c*ow tirnt, 
or soon aft^r calving. The uiass is fired on a girdle 
antl then used : mac Jamieson's Dictioimnj, under 
" Care-cake," " Skair-skon/' and ** Sooty-skou/* 
whcte all of these are said to be es^ten on Fasteea> 

y»8. II.Jcitl8.74.J 




■ ^^ 

■ wur 

■ istl 



j.;Vp '"• ^i^-ove-Tiiesday. Also " Skirrin-fimsdAy/* 
ill' \ before Good Friday (Jamieaon). C«m 

%n\ ^ .. \vhether the adjectives coar and b€a»He, 

Sualtfjing milk, aaaume other fonns^ and what is 
acir origin ? H 

Rev. Samtkl Hardy (5*^ S. ii. a)— For 
further pnrticulam rebting to hU writings, aee 
Omie's Bihliothtcti Bihlica^ AUibone's Dictionary 
^f Authority and Dr. Watt's Bihlv^ihcca Britanidca. 
A short btogr»phiciil account of him is found on 
K 580 of Pagers History of Suffolk. The Anmial 
KtifuUr^ 1783, gives an account of his non's 
wiunler by Mr. Daniel M*Ginni8, who stiibbed him 
in the Itft breast with a bjiyonet, which entered liift 
iie&rt. This unhiippy accident wiis occasioned by 
le water thrown out of Mr. M'Ginnis's window 

Mr. Hardy's Bkyli^jht, who, going upstairs to 
remoDstrate witli Mr. ^l^Ginnis, words arose, 
which proceeded to this fatal extremity. Mr. 
MHimnis had n moat excellent character given 
hhii aa a quiet, hiirtnlefis, inoffensive, and humane 
p^rsoD, by gentlemen of high nink. I find ^ again, 
in the Annttal lic^utkr^ 1784-.% the following 
pmgmph :-^" July 19th, 1785. On Tuesday lust 
I)t. Mjicffinnis^ who was convicted of stabbing Mr. 
Hmtly, the hatter, in Newgate Street, two yearH 
•go^ was discharged from his confinement in the 
King's Bench, and set off for the Continent.*' The 
Kev, Suiiiuel Hardy died m 1793^ aged seventy- 
three. OWLKT. 

PRETACES TO BooEs (5* S. i. 357.)— I have 
before me a coj^ of Tavemer's EpUtlfs and 
GospelJiM, 154(J, which has '*Tbe Preface" and 
other preliminary matter, comprising four un- 
nuinbered leaves ; but I think prefaces were 
mdtuilly introduced after title-]>ages became of 
neqnent occurrence, say nbout 150(). 

Gaston dk Bernevau 


The Australian Drama (5*^ S. L 423.)— 
Additions to list of names of authora, &.C., fur- 
nished by Mu. Ikolis :— 

1. Fntn£09ca VoMn, » imgedy in five actif by John 
fjr- luthor »Uo of ircflilses on Coloniftl Law, 

'if Maif, a Christian drama founded on the 
A' ripid«, corof>of«d by B*v. Wm. Kelly, 9. J.* 

U'\ 14 at Convent of Biitera of Mercy, Mel- 

"fh Sea Si$tir*t a lyric mafioae. Is the work 
of i (crnie, author of Orton, ana waa tjsued in 

lBQ6, X muiiih or two subfequently to his other d'*«ma, 
^tamttktui tk* F^rt-Bringer. Both were published in 

^r t Dramatic IHttib-aiions of Ancient Hit- 
Ic^j ^d (m far «i complete) in one volume, MeU 

Itenkf^ 1H5, And include the following :—,/w</i7A, Tht 
Mwmmf Makgfw o/S^fpt, Buryncme ike Orttl Aiaidrn, 
QmAm^ M94iimr$k, Baboon, /fimrvud ih4 Mi^htj^ 

bourne, 1873, is by My tea MacFhail, a gentle man well 
known in Edinburgh. 

7. End^rhif, a tragedy in Are ftct«, MeIbottme,nodate. 
1 cim furniah evidence a§ to the date of thU drama 
additiorml to that already givtn (5*'' 8, i. 154), if Mu. 
IftOLis desires it. 

Stage Criticisms deser\'ing special notice : — 
^. Tr<ij /Tomtet Madt or, the Lucubrations of Mestrv. 
Smith, Brown, Jones, and Robinson, with in trod tic tory 
preface by the Editor of the Argm (from which they 
are repruUcd). with writers* names attached:— Jamtra 
Smith, Dr. Ncikl. arc all I remember. Thia pamphlet 
wa«i issut'd iu 1863, and i« a valuable addition to the 
theatrical memoranda of Melbourne, 

9. Brown ihe Or:at ; or, Preea and Stage, a Colloquy, 
by George Scott Hough, Melbonme, 1868. 

E. A P. 

Tub Earl of Moreton (5^* S* i. 508.)— May 
this title be rh error for Mortagne, or Mortain, in 
Konnandy ] He wa.** half-brother to William the 
Conqueror, In the Appendix to Pennant-* Brituh 
ZooitMjif^ vol. ii., (540, is a document from Biishop 
Lyttelton 8 Collections, which begins, ** Johan, comes 
^ioreton.*' George R. Jessr. 

Robert, Enrl of Moreton, or Moriton, who was 
also Earl of Cornwall, was brother of Odo, Earl of 
Kent, and half-brother of the Conqueror. He was 
associnted with Odo in the imsaccesaful attempt to 
dethrone William Rufus. In addition to his 
estates in Surre}'^ and Sussex, he held a oon* 
aiderable part of the Isle of Wight, William, his 
son and successor, was deprived of all his GBtatei 
in En^rhind by Henry I. C. L. M. Stevtoi8» 


^'Mars ma Sword '* (5*^ S. H 2.)—T. J. V. 
wiO find on reference to the Prliyer Book, in " a 
Collect or Prayer for all conditions of men,*' be- 
ginning, " God, the Creator and Preserver of 
all mankinil,^" that it concludes, "And this we 
beg for Jesus Christ hU sake." Clarrt. 

A "Watkr-Blast'* (5**^ S. iL 9.)— A water- 
blast and a wnter-blain are the same thing, a 
swelling caused by chilling the hand in water, as a 
chilbkin ia produced by ft chiil from cold air. 

a A Ward. 


The Emperor Alexander IL (5* S. i, 464 ; 
ii. 30.)— You will perhaps allow me to make a few 
remarks on Mr, 1>ilkk's note, which appears to 
contain some errors. In the first phice, that the 
word tzar is derived from Ciesiir is now admitted 
by ail the best Slavonic schoUrs. It will be euffi- 
cient to quote the nam^ of Schnffarik and Kopitiir 
as having held thnt opinion. The hitter sav-^, in 
his GtogoUta Clo^iianuSf a classical work to all 
students of this neglected branch of bnguages 
(p* ix.), that it resulted *' francicA medii levi pro* 
nuntiatione Cieaaris." In the Church Slavonic we 
get the foroi Uitarm X uae English letters^ feAciog . 


lfs*a n.JiTLTis.^ 

that you have no Slavonio type. There i^ also a 
Go^^nfite verb^ meiitiing *' to rule.'* Uim well known to 
iBcbolar^ that there arc mnny words in the old 
Church knguajro derived through a Gennaa me- 
dium : thu:*, SI. popCf Genn. jo/ajfc ; SI aliar, 
Gemi. altar; and, as very similar to the ca96*of 
^Gmar and Tmr. I m^j add Germ, kirctt^ and BL 
ftmh&v^ a church* 

The old idea that Tmr was from an AssyriJin 
root, or something of the kind, the same im we find 
in Belsbazzivr, Nebuchadnezzar, &c-, is now quite 
exploded. I believe one geBtlemaQ did attempt 
to prove that Belshazzar was only bolahoi Txar^ i.e. 
great emperor ; but there have been Slavotio- 
maniaca as there have been Gel to- maniacs. This 
derivation of the word Tzar is found in the notes 
to Kararazin% work ; but the lucubn^tions of tlmfc 
once revered author^ whether historical or philo- 
logical, are now somewhat obsolete. 

In the second place, I must enter a protest 
agnimt the use of the word Turanian, a very un- 
fortunate expression, belon^ring to the infancy of 
, compamtive philology, and now bein;:; ^.Tadually 
I abaudone^J, even by it» chief Bupporters. It wtis 
^ a^ b«3t but a mere Blovenly name for all the odd 
laikguages which defied claasificatton* 


That the Byzantine and Gennon words for 
Emperor are derived from Coeaar ia indisputable, 
hut I should be glad to hear somewhat more of the 
reasons for deriving Tsar from the »ame root than 
Dr. Charnock*s tp«€ dixiL I have neither suffi- 
cient knowledge nor time to examine the details 
of the qiieijtioD, which was quite incidental in my 
note on the Eiinx?riif8 title; but when a majority 
of the best Riissian authorities have come round 
of late to the contrary opinion, 1 may be excused 
for considering it unproved, at least till some 
aigument has been brought forward in its favour. 


Sba-port Town, Afbtca (5*^ S. i. 4S7.)— In 
the map of Northern Africa in Tke UliistraUd 
Atlas (London, J. & F. Tallis), the town of 
Mnhedia is marked on the moat easterly part of 
the coast of Tunis, but, according to the scale of 
miles, it is 124 miles S.K from Tunia, in a direct 
Hue, F, A* Edwabbb. 

"The Ghost op thi: Old Empire'' (d^ S. i. 
508.) — Til IB idi»a is, I am pretty sure, to be found 
in Hobt»ci(, but I have not hit works at hand to 
hunt the passage «p* K, P. D, JE. 

UsK OF Ikvicrtkd Cohkab (5**> S. i. 9, 75, 
154, 217, me, 455 ; 5*^ S. ii. 37.)--Medweio may 
rest assured the use of inverted commas for the 
purpoie excepted to by Lord Ltttci/pok, «<> far 

from belnjr the result of *" half-education" on tbo 
part of either writers or printers, has always been^ 
iind still is, the practice of the educate<l of all 
ranks. I say nothing as to the expediency of the 
equivocal use of inverted commas, and incline to 
agree with Lord Lyttelton that the more laud- 
able practice is to restrict their use to ca^es of 
actual quotation ; but I assert that such a restric- 
tion would be a no\^ltj on estahlished usage. I 
am not going to crowd the columns of ** N. & Q.*^ 
with illustrative extracts ; in fact, I meet with 
auch every day, in both old and recent litcmture, 
I give the last instance I have observed, which (g 
in the Timci of last May 14, p. D— "We should 
like to see our women less * accomplished * and 
better instructed/* The tirst participle is not a 
quotation from one or other of the speeches in the 
Convocation of the University of London, to which 
the article relates, but is put in inverted commas 
purely for contemptuous emphasis, 

I observe another early instance of the emphatic 
use of inverted commas in Webster's DutcJifss^ of 
Maify, 1G4(>5 the last two lines of the play t>eing 
printed in italics, with " opposite the first line of 
the couplet. I have not considted the edition of 
1623. Jabjbz. 

Atheoiema Cluh, 

The sixteenth and seventeenth century examples^ 
which have been quoted, of the use of inverted 
commas^ for emphasising notable passages, or those 
to which attention was desired to ho apeciaJlj 
directed, are interesting as showing how certain 
peculiaritiea arise at particular pcjioda, and the© 
cease ; but I imagine that none of your oorrespon- 
denta bring them forward to show the propriety of 
their use for similar purposes at the present day^ 
any more than they would wish to hring forward 
the vagarious spelling of the same epodm. Custom, 
I think, must be, for the most part, the arbitrator 
in such cases. This applies equally to another 
subject which has branched out of the above — I 
mean the mark ! I at once admit that *^ note of 
exclamation" is a better term than "note of 
admiration/' because the former would include the 
latten as, How beautiful ! but the latter would not 
tdways be includetl in the former, as, How horrible? 
How absurd ! All I contend for is, that this 
mark — whatever name it may be called by — 
exprcwes, except sometimes in the case of irony^ 
an emotion— mostly twdden — of th£ mind. And 
as I regarded the usual "Dear Sir," or ''Gentle- 
men,^* as conveying neither emotion of the mind 
nor irony, but as simple " nominatives of address '' 
(not "Wocatives "), I consider*'*! nml still con- 
sider, the use of such a marl 1 ignorance 
and viUgarity, and, thereforL^ i / could uot 
have existed in the origimtl manuscript of Law^ 

T have neither the time nor the opportunity now 





I lo if if it were cuatoraary to employ this 

[ nj.i 1 ' asea at early periods, but that it was 

[not Fi> :vi LUi latter ptirt of the eighteenth century 
I ia clearly iinpiied by the Rev. J. Robertson, whose 
I learned little work on Pnnctufition I referred to 
[on a former occafiioa when speaking of the first 
' um of iJao colon (:) 

*' A note of exdftmation may he placed after Sir or 
Jfadaat mhem any tudd^n or tn^mt €moti4>n li cxpr*a$€dt 

Sir t this langoage amaMa me ! 
Madam I I am thnndentntck ! " 

Foreign examples appear to me beyond the 

" •■ -1 I have read (though I do not vouch for 

vj) that the Gennans invert this mark at 

.- ^lj4 of a sentence to expresa Irony ; and 

[ Timperley, who we know waa a practical printer, 

vs ilu Sninish and Portngnese typographei^ do 

_% hut at the beginning of a sentence^ 

^ I vxcljunation from interrogation* We 

I know no such instances in English. Medwbig. 

Tka (5^ S. L 405, 47a)— Br. Kitchiner, in his 
I Codk^s OrafU^ quotes the folio win ;? from Sir 
I Kenelm Di^^by's Cookery^ London, lG6ti : — 

"The Jesuit that came from China* a.d. 16i54, tolj 

Hr Walter that to tt drfiohm of tea they put a pint of 

water, and fre<^««iitly tuke the >olkBof twottcw latdegvcit 

"^rat them np u tth u^ rnuch fin© augar aa ia aufSctent for 

Mil atlr all well together. He alio in- 

it we let the hot water remain too lomg 

. ..,--.. .he tea. which luakea it extract into itftelf 

I the cariUy part of the herb ; the ivMter must remain 

Uf»on it tio longer than tekile yp\t ean tay tht Miterere 

i*4tUm 9fr You hare then the spiritual part 

©f the t*. ' "rtion of which to the water matt 

be about u _______ J i\ pint." 

Think of the Jesuit misgionarieK in their black 
and whi»i^ lijtbita reciting in penitential peaha 
I *• tr* fy," with their eyes devoutly tbced 

I npo: lOt! Gbetsteiu 

Ak Eeealdic Mao.izine (5**» S. i. 444, 496.)— 
I Oiherfl, highly eligible, lui, for instance, Asglo- 
ScoTUs* Mn, Sinclair, Mb. Maidment, Ma. 
EorT - - *^r PT. Bkrtrand Payne, &c., might be 
nan junt of their historical, genealogical, 

ind i<^ i .i i i 1 -icqnirementFj for the vacated editorial 
ofaair in question. Tewars and Hermekthodb, 
^^jlUie real names are unknown to ine, must be ad- 
^^^H^ to be Hcond to ncne as reguds snbstantiai 
H^Rficfttions for sucli a post. S. 

Tint Beo akd tuib HAtrPENNr (5"* S. i. 326, 
I32L) — I urn able to afford some infomiAHon re- 
•^ectiEie the coin " la mtuUe ," ita >Tdue, and its use 
iarr— -'- 

1 I ien*3 Ttaiie d€s Mon n oi« 

«t i' h C<*ur deg ATonnoifs, en 

j /»rr '2 vols. 4 to., Paris, 1764, 

■\ oa do compte^ 

ri^TPC parti d'un sol toumoii. La Maifle $e (luhdMie 
en deux Htes, et chaque Pite en deux ften.i t'itca. ha 
Maillc a ct^ autrefois unc monuoie courante, et la plua 
pttitede cellei qui onteu cours en PrMtice ; mubsi dtmntit* 
on encore te nom de Mail e, parmi le peup'e, au denier 
toumob, eouii le K-gno d'Henri IV,, par 1 habitude oA 
Ton (!tiiit d'af pellcr de ce nom lee plu^ petite* des e»- 
jjccei courante 8." 

Under the head of "Denicrs tournois," the 
Dictionary above-mentioned mjs : — 

** Dculera toumotf . appe116s ainpi parceque lea premier* 
fureitt frapp^fl A Tiuri; petite M*initoie de cuivro eans 
ra^lenKe de fin, qui a en autrefois icrand couri en Frances 
Le denier tournoisse subdirise eti deuxiiiaiY/u ouob^^lat/' 

At the end of the Bictionfiry are tables of th^ 
various muniea struck in Franco between a.d* 
125H and a.d. 1726, their valuei^, &c. No men- 
tion is mtxde of **Maille8 de Irorraioe," but the 
*' Maillc d'jirgent" of 131(» i» given aa worth | of 
the value of one denier. There were also istiUfHi 
in 1315 **Mailles Bourgeoises/^ valued, per maille,, 
at i a denier ; and *' Maillea Farisia," idightly 
higher in value, vis^., | of a denier. In 1329 wero 
issued '*MailleH blanches'* of varied values, i. c» 
some worth 4 deniers, some worth 6 denfera, and 
others worth X sol 4 deniers each. The last royaJ 
edict for coining ^'Mailles tournoiaes^' is given a» 
dated on Nov. 7, a,d. 141 1, and the vilae, as be- 
fore, 4 !i denier. 

M. de Bazinghen was " Conseiller Commissaire 
en la Cour des Monnoies de Paris'* ; and his work 
seems to me to be worthy of all respect as an au- 
thority, being, on all matters connected witb 
French coinage, a-ssays of precious tuefnls, lawa 
regulating the work of goldsmiths, jewellers, &c., 
full of quaint and well-«tored information. 

It seems clear enough that the " maille," when 
referred to in any proverb, must be the ** maUle 
toumoise," and not one of the " mailles blanches '* ; 
I judge .^o not only from the saw given by Mr. 
Ward, " Bonne cat la maille qui sauve le denier/* 
but from another proverb, which I proceed ta 
quote. When anytning has been improved, they 
say, " Qn'elle vaut mieux denier qu'eUe ne valoit 
tnaille,'* evidence that of the two pieces the denier 
was of the highest irapoitance. FaiTe Ui honn^ 
nmilU is **garantir que le oompte y est jusqu'4^ 
une inaille," and "maille k partir" ia "avoir 
quorelle." The.*<e two explanations, and the pro- 
verb immediately preceding, are extmcied from 
the IHctionnaira de$ Frovtrbet Fmmeakf ISoMk^ 

Paris, 1758. Ommamm. 


r N' FAMitY (5i»» S. i. 208, 2f)l)^Thia 

is ij nsime of early times. Among th« 

cha.iii- injJ family papers of the "Maxwells of 
Pollok '* (vol i. p, 203), the nnme appears in A 
charter by ** John, Earl of Lennox, and Mfvtihcw 
Stew.nrd, hig son, to Sir John Munguiitry^ 



[6-^ S. 11. Jatt 18, 7t 


Clogistonc, notario publico," 16th April, 1403 ; 
and iigam, in u ^ubj.equent document (p. iJ<»5), the 
niinie appenrA " Bcbir Alexander (*hig5tone." The 
name of the inrxterDtil preat -grand fat her of the 
present Lady (*ole was Clugston^ in some wuj 
connected fi4» a public officer either with the port 
or county of Wigton, His daughter married 
Captain Acton, of the old Cutbolic family, the 
Actons. I believe that Cardinal Acton and 
CaTaliere Acton, Prime Minister of Ferdinand^ 
King of Naples, about the beginning of this 
centurj', were uncles of Captain Acton. The 
Cliigstons became^ in this way^ allied to some of 
the oldest families of England. The late Lady 
Granville, Maria-Louifia, only child and heir of 
Emeric-Joseph, Due D'Alberg, was widow of Bir 
Ferdinand Ri chard Edwarrl Acton, Bart., Aid en- 
ham, the son of Cavaliere Acton, and a leader of 
fashion at the Court of Naples about forty years 
ago, where I hare oft^n met him. I have no 
doubt that Clugstoun, like man3''suc!i names, was 
derived oriojtnally from some place. Not long 
ago I met with the name of a piece of land, Clogis- 
ton, in an old charter connected with the ahire 
either of Roxburgh or Berwick, but unfortunately 
I did not take note of it, and cannot recall to my 
memory the charter in which I found it. 

a T, Ramaoe. 

There Is n family' of the name of Clogsf oun now 
living at Wim borne, Boi-setshii-e. It is a Scotch 
name. G. C, 

B^ziQl'E (:,«» S. I 167, 233, 357, 41 IX)— I have 
found the word Ba^^ca h\ the I>izmiaru) Uni- 
tenale Critico Enajdoptdic.o ddla Lingua It^- 
liano (leir Abbati D'Albcrti di l^iUanuova, pub- 
lished in Lucca, Mnccxcvii*:— 

** BAzzicA un gnico di carte huK che li guiocti in tra 
4> in quattre persone, e si donno tre ciirte per uiio; clie 
<;eiitM»o chufchedunn il iuo numere, e le ft^ure centaiio 
dieci. Lb mtUa eonta n piactmento, dv g:iociitc»ri dull 
nno al died. II nutufre at quale »i che glugfiere per 
▼isiooe la posta suol' esiere il trent' uno." 

This, although not a very clear description, has 
no reflembbnoe to our game of B^-sique. A, S, 

Richardson Family (4**» S. x. 392; xl 36, 
1G(>, 262: 5«» 8. i 513.)—! regret that I am unable 
to give RoTSSE any further infonuution, and that 
in consequence of the number of the fac-Hiuiile 
eopie« of the charter being conhned to the number 
of copies of the " Chronicle " which they are in- 
tended to illustrate, I ^hnil only bo uble'to afford 
him a single copy, which I sljali gladly forward if 
RoTSSE will say to what address it mu.«5t be sent. 
The fftC-simile i* by the anastatic pioceas of Mr. 
Cowell, of Ipswich, a process very good for faded 
charters. I may add that various cireumytance* 
connected with the eogravingn, heliotynes, &c., aud 
in the preparation of the MS., have delayed, .^nd 

fire likely to delay for a considerable time loIlg<(^r, 
the publication of the Frcwisham hi&tory, in whidi| 
all that relates to the Rieliiirdsons* that is neces»ar/, 
will be inserted in a foot-note, T. Helsby* ' 

York Chamhera, Manchester. 

If S. P. A. (4^^ S, xi. 36) has succeeded in 
meeting with the arms of the WarwicJcshire family 
of this name, or any account of them in that county, 
1 should be very glad to obtain information on the! 
subject. The name is frequently to bo met with in' 
the neighbouriDg counties of Oxford and Bucks, aa 
well as in Shropshire ; but I have not yet discovered 
it in Warwickshire, and I am inclined to think, 
that if there were a Wanvickshire branch, it musl 
be in recent times. The only arms borne b; 
faiiiilies of this name with which I am acquain 
are aa frdlows : 

Richard.Hon of London (?): emune, on a cliiel 
azure, three lions- heads erased argent, laugued gu 

Richardson of Norfolk : or, on n chief gu,, threO', 
lions' heads erased of the first, quartering erminci 
on a canton az., a sjdtire ar. 

Richardijon of Shropshire : argent, thr^e chaplets, 

Richardson of Durhiim : &able, on a chief indent, 
tliree liooii' heads erased, ermine, langued guJes. 

Richard son (Bp. of Ardagh, Ireknd): a fSosi^ 
gultic (?), between three pheons. 

I should be glad to know of any others* 


"SiBiLLA Odalbta*' (5"* S. L 489.)— About 
the time this novel appeared an Italian friend^ a 
gentleman well versed in the literature of his 
countr}% informed me that the author of the work 
was a 8ignor Verres^ who sometimes called himself 
" Vnrese," and preferred the latter appellation. 
This is my only authority. The -same author wrote 
likewise La Fulmizata Ligurt, It ProttcrxHo^ and 
Prezima di Sanluri; also some other novels which 
I did not read, and whose names I have forgiitten. 
His style is light and cheerful, bis language good, 
and his plots rre sufficiently interesting to induce 
the reader to go to the end of them ; and his books 
have the great merit (alas t too rare in Ihe^e days) 
of being safe to put into the hands of the young of 
either sex. V arose was an intense admirer of our 
Walter Scott, and published a clever and ingenious 
essay, propcaing to show that Walter Bcott might 
be considered the Rossini of literature, and Rossini 
the Walter Scott of music, which I thought worth 
translating, and it appeared about the period abov5 
referred to in a magazine long since defunct. 

M, H. R. 

*^S" VBR8U8 "Z"" (S*** S. i. 8S>.135, 155, 455,51S.)J 
— UxKDA dm& not know what he would effect, ii 
the st>elhnf; of words were altered to suit promiDCta-l 
tion. A langtiuge would be simply destroyed,! 
both a!* regards iU historical character and the J 


6^8LU.jttii8,wj NOTES AND QUERIES. 


true meaning of its words. Let me put before 
him tlie remarks of Archbishop Trencii on ihiB 
nubjeet, with which every person of ediicAtign, I 
abould imagine, must agree : — 

* A wdrd exiitc m truly for the eye is for the enr, and 
'm Kii hlxhl; ft^lvaiiced etatc of eoctety, wberc reading is 
ftlmrtii as uaiveniLl as rpe&kJDg, a.9 much, pcrlitpi^ for 
the firtt 9» for the Iwt. The gains con^reiiuent un the 
introduction of such a cbruige would be very ftnall^ 
while the lo8se§ would be enormonfily grcaL The gainii 
would be the fating of a certain amount of labour in 
the tcArmng to spell; but e?en these g^iiiu would not 
long remain, seeing that pronunciation is itself con- 
tinually altering ; custom is lord here for better and for 
worse ; and a multitude of words are now pronounced in 
a different manner from that of u hundred yeara n,y[t}, 
mo that, ere very long, there would ogain be a chasm be- 
tween the spelling and pronunciation of wordA, In 
pbonetic spelling lies the proposal that the educated 
Kliould.of free choice, plaee themsekes in the conditions 
and under the dtsail vantages of the i^n^orant and un- 
•du^Mtcd, instead of seeking to elevate these lajt to 
lh« ir own more favoored condition." 

Mny 1 ask Uneda, would he have Earl Beau- 
tip spell his name ** Bechuiii/' or fihoiilti UIa 
: of Rutland address his letters from '* Bevor 
ile"? W. G. K. 


Coroner (/>*»> S. i. 4S1.}^A$ Y&u Like It^ 
Act iv. 1 : Koaalind, spetiking of Leander s de^ith, 
»y#, " The foolish ckronidrrit of tkut age found it 
wfts — ^Hero of Sestos." Various rrities seem to 
b«ve suggested " coroner/' but, as far as I know, 
ibis is not borne out by finy old t'opies. It is 
evident that an inquest is alluded to. Wuji the 
word fhronifUr uaed in this aense in Shakspeare 8 
lime f In ilennj VIIJ\, Act iv. 2, the word 
i^hronicUr is applied to Griffith by Queen 
KaiJierine with a somewhat Biuiihir incoming. 

Z, Z. 

TTit^ TiKiM probablederivationof this word seems 
It* ' conies from the J^atin coronator, a 

cr-.^■ * * 

**Oqu axd thb Kixo" (S*** 8. ii. a)~Thc book 
H eoiitled Is this, now before nie : — 

^Ood k the Ring, or a Dialogue shewing that our 
SfOtTnlgnt Lord King lames being immediate vnder 
God within his Dominions, Doth rightful] v claime 
vlteljoeuer is retjuired by the Oath of Allegeance, 
11 ftp. , $!•% London : Imprinted by hii Maiestie*! fe|ieciali 
Priule<lc9 Aod Command. 1615." 

I h.ive it also in small quarto, isi^ued by com* 
inund of Charles IL, 1663 ; on the title,— 

*' ^ ' ' ^V" coioptlcd and printed by Speeial Commiuid 
fit s, (of blessed Memory :) and now Com- 

mar e reprinted it publifhed by Uis 3Ii^esty's 

rivkdaanatjon, for the Inttruction of all H, M/s 
I la their Duty k Allegiance." 

I that Its inculcation by the ministers was 
but see **N. k Q.,' 2"'* S, iv. 141. 
Alexander GARDyxE, 



Tki Uistorv 0/ Mtaic ( Art atid Scisnce}, Vol. L From 
the Earliest Records to the Pall or the Roman Umpire. 
With Explanations of Ancient Syatems of Music. 
Musical Instruments, and of the 1'ruc Physiological 
Basis for the Science of Mumc, whether Ancient or 
Modurn. By W. Chappell, F.8,A. (Chappell k Co. 
and Simpkiii, 3f are hall A:; Co.) 
SoMK years ago, at the house of 3fr. Grote, Ihst great 
historian suggested to Mr. Chappell that he might most 
worthily «pply his knowledge and Echolarfhip by writing 
a history of music as it was known Mid pra«:tisid among 
the Greeks. The subject, it may be readily supposed, 
was not a new one to .Mr. Chappell ; but out of tne sug- 
gestion on the part of Mr. Grote has come to us this 
lirst volume, complete in itself luid sufficiently described 
in the title-page, of a History of the Art and f^cience of 
Muf'ic general ty. No living man possesses higher quali- 
ftcAtions for such a task ; and, in the volume before us, 
Mr. Chuppell proves the excellence of his qualificutiona 
by the way in which he arrests the attc>iition of the 
antiquary, excites the admiration of the scholar, and, by 
his geniality and grace of style, gives new delight to tike 
general reader. In the Introductory Chapter, Mr. 
Chnppe]l demolishes, good-humourcdly, the former his- 
tories by Hawkins and bv llurney, but he prefers Sir 
J<»l)n to the Doctor. ^Ihe latter relied much on 
Boetbius, who *' took up music simply as a branch of 
arithmetic," and who ^' could not even tell whether a 
Greek scale began at the top or the botk»m." Muste 
owes less to Bgethiu!« (and to those writers who looked 
on it as a branch of astronomy connected with the 
music of the spheres) than it does to Ctestbius, the 
Egyptian barber, who invented the hydraulic organ. 
Mr. Chappell has made a working model of this aneioot 
organ to test the principle, and " it answers perfectly.'* 
Mr. Chappell gives numerous proofs of the vast antiquity 
of the art and «clence of music, all replete with interest. 
His book does honour to himself and to literature. Itis, 
moreover, well illustrated,— from the frontispiece, re- 
presenting a ladies' musical party in Egypt, about 
the time of Moses, to the caricature of another party, in 
mIi ' '' -c« IIL is represented, by some audscioaa 
I' ray, as a lion, sweeping the lyre, while 

CI Ii ,:iring as an ass, u crocodile, and a nonie- 

fciipt aiiinikil, proudly accompany the Grand Maestro 
among musical majesties. Mr. Chappell ends his Tolume 
tn the good old-fa<iinoncd phrase " lAus Deo ! ^* May he 
be well sped from the Source to which he offers pratM in 
the renmmiler of his ta^k, with liealthfortts accomplish- 
ment, and long enju^rnient from all accruing honour. 
Aifount of l/ic Errr*'if>r^ fif fiirh/trrf, fiishf^p nf T.n'ndfm^ 
1303, ciwc* iff il ;^ ■ "" ' ' ' 0/ 

Ex^itr, 1310. \ the 

]H:»s.4«saion of the 1 ^ .' ' ' . ^^^d 

from the Archives \ji the Ciij/ of KjLeter By the late 
Vcn. Henry Hale, Archdeacon of I^ondon, and the 
Rev. H. T. Ellaciimbe. M.A., Rector of Clyst 8. 
George, Devon* {Printed for the Camden Society.) 
Tnit surviving editor of thl« interemting volume needs no 
introduction to the reiulers of " X. & Q./' the columns of 
which he has so often enriched by his contributions. 
The Rev. Mr. Elkcombe modestly assign i all the merits 
of editorship to his late venerable colleague. Archdeacon 
Uale. It i« only for us to say that jointly they have 
produced a volume which is full of iliustrations of the 
episcopal life, professionally and socially, as it existed 
in the lime of Richanl de Qnivesend and Thomas do 
Button, at the cto»e of the thirteenth and at the be- 
ginning of the fcHirisexith csnturka One marked 



IS^" fl. II. JuLv 18, 71* 

difference between the two prtflnteu is recorded in tie 
Inirodnction. '* The garderote of Bi«hop Button w(ib 
filled with »idce« and grocery, thmt of liij^boji Ornresend 
with boiika. * Archdeacon U&lo it of opttdoti that the 
vj*lue of money when thise prelate* lived was not 
firt^rcn, but only three times ita present value ; 240 
pennies af full weight, making 20#. in tal^, contained, 
flujB the archdeacon, a« much oXyqt as ftftj-gevcu Bbil< 
linga imd five pence ot our present coin. 
The Nt^ Quarkrl^ Ma^aLzintf {qt July, (Ward, Lock 

TnB reputation which the iVrtP Qaarttrl^f boa aTready 
ftcquired for what inny be called its *'perauna]'* illuft- 
Irations is excclUntljr' au^ta*ncd in the July number iu 
•*ihe Personal ULitory of Lord MftCAuUy/' by the Kov. 
F. Am^ild. The writer, witli rca<iy ncknowleUjzmietit of 
Loid Miiciiulay's great power^^ rtctiguiiees xbo \m weak- 
nenes and defecui, and lie concludes that oritioism not 
4iiigenrruui>, and evidence not to be gainsaid^ have 
aeriuuely damaged Lord Maoaulay, and proved him to 
be often partial and unfair in hi» stttttment^. The 
•* Student Guilds of Germany" helps to show that 
4tii.lliMg bus become more *' burlesque '* than heroic, 
though a br&ve young fellow niay still be murdered at 
it by a fool. The other articles are all *'good*'; und 
ftill higher prake ia due to *' Meliora Latent," which is 
trortb more than any score of the noyels of the day« 

M&. Wm. Jackson wfit«a:— *'I urn compilinn: a pedi- 

jjree of the Rkbraond family, of UiKbbeat '^ ' ' 'utn- 
berland, from wil]4?>, regiaterf, and ual 

sources, and am very de§iruu9 to eeo a pri' Jtcd 

book, entitled Tht Life of tStr Francis Dnjdt, H;iUi soihc 
Amount of tht JHchmond FamU^ of highltmd CatiU, 
Will any poBsewor of the volume Jtindiy allow me to 
infpect tbe tame for a few dajrsi 

'* Fleatham Huose, 8t, Bees by Cam forth/' 
|TniOLTrn wishes tbe name of an illustrated work con* 
Jining the cotit. of anni, crest, and motto of all person ■ 
irao have bad them granted by the Henilds*Collegef uid 
the reasons. 

Goon Nsw9 FftOM Frawce. — Where Young^i Night 
Tfuruohit and Hervey's Mtditatton* were once »o 
popular, we learn, with gati^f action, that Cowpcr Las, at 
laat. been introduced to tbe acceptance of the French 

Cublic- Thi* has been done by M, LC'on Boucher, in a 
undiiomc volume, entitled WUiiatn Coftper^ *a Corre- 
$pondaHce tt §es Potixu. 

Mt3* OF LKTTStis will be interested in tbe new re- 
search e« on the history of the discovery of the VenuA of 
ililo which have bctn made, by M, Jean Aicard^ among 
documeiits hitherto unpublished, »nd which he has pub- 
lished uiider the title La IVnui dt Milo. 

We thankfully acknowledge tbe receipt of a draft for 
100 dollars (18(. 4#. 4{/.)« tlie frenerous contribution of 
Mr. Kesin A. Wight, of Kew York, to the fund being 
nused for Mrs. MoJcon. 



rM^tlmi^an of Vt\o*^ Sc.. of trriy book to b« fcnt dLrr«t to 
(h> ' i» rvquirrd, »tui»« fi«tn« i^id MldraM an 

t.^ [>• 'i OArv [>r Gn!*i BrltBin toid Ir<Ua<l- 


*' i:io*i*AM»>. 5 Veil, Siro«ot«tb« 

1^ ' 1 rj, A recent EdHitm. 

Wuit«d bj Aor. /. ITeily, PilUtxa Ttnrtft. SoaOttlsiid. 

Ilottrrif to CoiTrif))onirnitd. 

Our CoRRESPOjenKHTS vitl, ire '• '*' -^ 
^eftttit^ to tkem.^ lotk for (htir iaJie^ 

Tkiti tfuv Fhrf^fM. writf v , J ofl 

one side of tl (ml 

ahtl word* ; ' 

required, \\\ .^ .,.„, ^ ^ ,., ,-.... ._.,.: u fjui 

respondent do€9 not thmJt; icortk ihe trtmbU ^f wrUin 

In the "Curious Tr^asonnblc Letter' (5"' Sr it. 6) i 
^cfcrence^ by nurobtra at the foot of the letter re 
spunded to tnc italics in tite written letter ; but whc;ll 
the letti?r wa^ printed tbe tiun»ber« no longer referred 
corrootly to tho trceuonnblc word*. Thia is now 
ri^htud below: — 

line wor4 


line word 


1 Thin U 


2 are 5 


2 itVTfV* 4 


li teen 4 


S MuU 10 



. tbe 


4 of 

6 lin< 

7 fwef y 
7 ui 

pLTptFT OaBUY ELWE^.— \^- ^ " -^ **• 

ing reply from a well -401 
portrait you forwarded to ' 
14 a portrait of Hans Bolbtiu the yuuLger, 
picture which has been engruvcd more thdn once. Thf| 
crik^inal (print) of the enctotied l« not known to mo, bu 
other copies from tbe picture are known. The engra'v 
mime, which your correspondent gives iia * I^ailin_^ 
or some such name,' is probably Benjumin Iteading, wb« 
worked in London in the bitter half of the last ccnturv. 

•*F. G. Stepdexs/' 

F* E. Hoe (Sabibur^^) will And a large amount of in-] 
forniatiork concerning the origin and btbliogm]jbv 
Tfu Poemt of A fairs of SUtte in '* i\. k Q./* -4^* S. iL ij 
244, 3f>l, 409, 470, In the piipers indicated by the 
references the hiitory of the book, and ita various cdi-^ 
tions, is very fully illustrated. 

Wkstoate. — Such false inielhgence is nothing new. 
David was told that Absalom had stain *' all the king^ 
sons" when he hod slain but one^ Amnon^ and the 
rest were galloping tbcir mules towards David^s bottse,. 
But, fast as they galloped, tbe false tiews went faster 

Jklesaweth.— See " N. & Q./' T* S. xl 343, 3Tk: 3"^ 
S. li. 104, 285; 4"' S. xii- MO, 357. The vesselwatfl 
named the " Uhkttou,'* after the pansh of that name iai 
Bunta. She performed the exploit in 1796. See Jam' 
Naval Iliftort/^ vol. i. 

W, A. a— For articles on Rotten Row, B«e " N. Ir C 
1*' S. i. 441 ; ii. 235 ; v. 40, 360 ; 2-* S. iv. JifiS ; 8^* al 
213,361,443; xii, 423, 500. 

George Stepbekj (Chcapingbavenj DetmiiirlL)^ 
" Bonnyclapper." See '*X. &. Q,/* 1** 8. vi. 318; %^ 
375: 4^8. ix. 29*5. 

li. S. B.— Pleaao subdivide tbe query ; it is retume 
for that purpose. 

A> DE L, U. — Probably as old as brides and sunsbiac. ' 

Ve WIT AS.— Name and address of writer wanted. 

B. Y. H.— Next week. 


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tA^JTDON^ 8A TURD A T, JUL V zs. 18^4. 

CONTENTS, --N' 30. 

^ Fsroytb, the Fiwt Prindpwl of Bnseoaic CoUei^^ 
64^1^fT» Epttapli, 6J3 — Itmulttr AoosntiiftUoni— 
l^LUnn^ rsralltli— IktokJi of Tr&vel— Maij Q\]««d of SooIb 
■M tt<r AocoMti-^Kirclx's Com«t of Iti^O i7X (MK 

— PoHw, or La IlodW"-Pliii&liig— Clw-lc« F*oiils'— 
of WtUIuu 1 , 67-^o«iiiift Soutbcotc— SituUe VVanled 
—••On* raati'i mMV" Ac.— silver Cmmwtll— *• D«lii0log7" 
^Aslbof Wftotod— Fhkm Sir B^^tnirt WLl»OQ*t Noto-Boolc— 
T1i« BAlloU'The Fyudani Moo urn on t in GMldriy Clionsli, 
IK— Sebtpf* or Sibley— The Willow rattflm — " Ptuket '^ — 
dem^**A Wftlk In atiitluiii^" 6D. 

I;— The FiffbUat Uie laches of Perth, 69 — "The 
Ptcbirt GsmoTy/' 70— FfoW-Loro : Cwrr, Inij, Arc, 
ClSfh of Burnt— The fimperor AleiiAdor II., 72— 
— cv Sdwud MuU Wlaglleld, 73— '*Tli« Thr«e IlMn"— 
*• Pr»«hli«^ • — lloTCunr Water — " No whon " — MAfch 
O^i — " Pm**— Christy CMl^ctlons^*' Yaniry Moniay "— 
••Th« Bona/ Hotiic ^ ;,ow"— 

niah«th Ouiniag — m," or 

niM "Klbh*ocl"^TJi -Drury 

Btmm — ■• SoliiUdtf " — " l^e ciuin wy : Gondii li Fiit* " — 
'*Fnl lo buck"— Gip«y BurUb- Why Adun OMazii North, 

fig«t> »0d West— fdri^atliUn MoQOUiOA^Quoitfi — 

/ flKftllT— "Th- w ": Bittern, 7«^Col- in 

CM'fiU'-Prkcea ct Koynl — 8. CAttMrine of 

— r^^l-nui -( it AprO SO, l&a9— Rev. 

B « I r,cull!ir i^p'-IMoe — *' P«>nteco«t"* m a 

-A Swale F*mUy— Flogging in kichooU— 

TIm 9»ir. < ^impcoa & Co., 7^^ — "l>mld" — The 


I I would next invite the &tt4?ntion of the rwideri 
mi "N, & Q.y" with a view of reform, to the 
Mfewin^ ruUa of spelling r — 

L MotDOS^rUAblea ending Id oqc con^naDt, pre- 
oeded Uj odj due vowe^ double tb€ luftt letter 
when a suffix Veg^nning with a Tovrel u added. 

SL DJaiyUablet aoceDtod on the kst syMablo, 
Ibe same oondltioiUi are treated in the same 

negatives of these two rules are : — 

L Monosytiables, and aliso diissyUAblea-accented- 
«ft-the-last-8vllablef enilitif^ in a single consonant, 
db not double it: (1) if more thun one vowel imme- 
dm$^ preocdea it ; (2) If the liD^t l«tter but one 
tt a oonBonanto 

li. Ko diaiyUabte, even if it ends in one con* 
Mmm^ ptecvded bj only one vowel, doubles the 
Jail miat oo r^seivtng the now part, unless the 
aoeml of tk» word is on its final sylinble. 

Tbii« : rttj^ end?* in orio oonwniint, and has only 
m» if, heni'o w#^ are to WTit« 

^f <-ed, f/itn?<-ing^ &c» 

IJLiL\ii na- in one vowel before the 

Iteat muQOUiM i:^ BOt to be doubled under 

tiv C0ciiinitau<'('-^ xi..uf:-d^ 

Eaiairr hoi not a vowel at all preceding tiie 

final consonant, so the nde does not apply to words 
of that tj'pe. 

Similarly, peter', accented on the la»t gylkble, 
ends in one consonnnt, and that coasonant is pre- 
ceded by only one vowel, hence we are U} write 
df/etr-cdf <hferr-'ing, dtferr-ei, ^c. 

But DirVKR, although it terminatefl in a idmilor 
Wii)% renifiina unchanged throughout, becanse it is 
Dot accented on the la^t syllable. 

In like manner reveal' uiukes ret'f<^^ ^^ - ^^?- 
in^, &c., b^jcause lAore than one vov i-* 

the final consonant; and disturb' maL.. „. ...6- 
ance, lUsturb-eTf disturb -ed, &c., because the final 
consonant is not immediately preceded by a vowel 
at all 

There seems a certain method in these rules, and 
no doubt they may be applied to many words, but 
they have these ^eat objectiona : (1) They have 
so manj" ''ifs'* and "buts'^ that it is very hard to 
teach thera to childt^n ; (2) There are »o many 
exceptions that pnKttcally they are of very little 
value ; and (3) The whole theory is based on an 

The root of the evil in this : we have most iin- 
wisely rejected accents, and have resorted to sundry 
shifts to compeneate for them : one way h to insert 
an extra vowel, as biT, bier; Utyfeet; girts, gooMe; 
rip, rtfipy &c.; but the most general plan h the 
clumsy addition of a mute e, as hiis, rtousf ; f^r, 
Jire; fyl,//«,* Ml, idk; w^d, i(?i<&J ,- fif,^f<?; giSt, 
gaU^ and so on. 

Thus, the old English thin has the t short, but 
th(n the i long. Hanng abolished the accent of 
the latter word, and wanting to show that the % 
is long, we have added a raute e to the end of the 
word, converting thin into thine. 

This very foolish contrivance has involved us in 
a host of troubles, and practically deprived us of 
the valuable service of a final t or « sonant. Thus 
we cannot in English express the Hri me 

for Juno (ntr6)i nor Fhow whether ■>*:$ 

is a word of four or five syllables, y1^M/^';.w-v of 
three or four. The kw word ^frra^munire would be 
pronounced in three syllables by the untaught, and 
not one in a hundred could say if zancn is to l>e 
pronounced sm/ia, or zn-ncs. I question wli»^hct 
any of the raoat learned readers of "N, & Q," 
have not occasionally stumbled on a word ending 
in f or « which has not suggested the question, 
** I wonder how this word h pronounced"; for my 
own part I candidly confer I never dare utter 
such a word in public till I have heard it pro- 
nonnced, or have solved the mystery in some other 
way. This ought not to be, and would not be^ 
but for the reason objected to. 

What hi»H been said above ia only half the cviL 
We have lengthened the once-removed vowel by 
lidding U* the word t tnuk, but tind this lett-eir 
sadly in the way when a suffix beginning «vCVi*. 
vowel la retiulred. T^e lot ^il»xcv^\^ ^<£. v»3^>:vx^ 





word cdr[i\]. Vie drop the accent, and cornpen- 
ate for its loss by t muif, converting the word 
tr into care (an oblique case of the original one). 
7e find the e troublesoine when -f^, -ing^ &c,, are 
to be added ^ so we drop it out^ writing car-cd and 
ear-in^, as if from ** cxir,'' a carringe ; we pick it 
lip again in eare-fulj care-kssy &c., and all this has 
to be maatered before we can spell care and its 
compounds. Probably it would be difficult to 
introduce back the di^cjirded accents^ otherwise 
the ob\dous remedy would be c<ir, CKiredf caring^ 
carfuUy cArUsSf but if the e mute must be retained, 
the next best way is the one ^ug^ested in the 
previous pajjer, car«, cared, cardngy carefully earc- 
l€4i$j the e belong merged into the e of the suffix in 
the ^cond case, and retained in all the other 

Even here the uiischief ceases not; like evetr 
lie it needs a blind red others to make it stand. 
Having absurdly enough added e mute to lengthen 
a vowel, we next lulopt the rule that the vowel 
precediurf the eon sou ant shall be long imlhout the 
c, provided the suffix attached begins with any 
vowel whatsoever, as -ana'.^ -ant, -uij?, -ity^ -ol^ and 
so on. Tlius taring [car-ing] is supposed to have </ 
long ; droning [dron-ing]j o long ; driit-ing nud 
driv-cr^ i long ; and so on. We have thus driven * 
oui'selves into a corner with a Urge class of words 
** ending in a single consonant preceded by only 
one vowel," and to meet the difficiilty adopt another 
shift, fpite as absurd as any of the preceding, 
which 13 this : we gJiortcu a vowel once-removed 
by doubling the final consonant* Thus, as skin- 
ing is already assumed to be shm-ingj with the 
I long, sin-ing must be changed into sinn-ing to 
show to the eye that the vowel is short, j'et have 
we »muoii^, inshmati^ shictry slnltkr^ and so on. 

I freely grant that our favourite ''Anglo- Saxon *' 
had an c accidental (not mute), but then like u it 
was declensioniil, and marked out a series of 
suffixes for the several caaes of the noun ; having 
abolished inflexional cases, we have no need of the 
declensional sign. 

I also allow that our ancient English in some 
instances doubled the final consonant, but pro- 
bably all such words ended originally in double 
consonants, one of which had been sufiereci to 
drop out of tise : thus '* bed '' is a corrupt form of 
hedd, ** den '• of deuTiy ** mim " of numny " thyn " 
[thin] of tkynny '* wit " of mtt, ** wan " of tcanHy 
&c. So tliat our obvious plan is either to restore 
the lost consonant to the primitive word, and 
retain it throughout, or to drop it in the aimple 
word, and in all its compounds. As the matter 
now stands, we blow hot and cold with the same 

Let ua now state once more one item of the rule 

• How i* it tliat driven hu o ihort e, according to 
ipdling uiftIog7 ? All !■ pUin in the original drifC^n], 
to drifc ; dm/f drove ; drjftn, driven. 

given above. DiasyUables, unless they are accente 
on the final s^dlable, never double the last con 
sonant when a new syllable is added ; they do i 
if more than one vowel precedes the final eon 
sonant ; they do not if no vowel at all precedes i^ 
they do not even when they end in a single 
sonant, preceded by a single Towel, because th 
accent falls in the wrong place. The word giv 
above, by way of illustration, was differ^ whidi i 
compared with ik/er. The latter being acoento 
on the last sj'llable makes dtftrr-td^ dtferr-ing^ &c 
the former not being accented on the last syllabll 
makes differ -cd^ differ-ing. 

The lii-st palpable observation is that the ruU 
will not apply even to the favourable examp' 
selected, for dcfer-eac^y de/tr*cnt%al^ are as mud 
under the rule as dcferr-cr and dcftrr-ed. If it ( 
objected that the accent on derercnoe is thron 
bock, and in deferen'tial is thrown fom'ard, imotT 
condition must be added to the nde, namely, 
lung jis the accent remains on the same syllable,^ 
rule which woidd not bear the slightest examinatiQ 

We have nine dissyllables ending in p, 
accented on the last syllable ; six of these ob 
the rule, and three are nonconfonmsts. For ( 
ample : — 

Gos'sir makes gompp-tVy gommp-td^ gossip 

Kic^KAr makes lcidiiajpp-€/ryhiana.i>p-td^ kxdnaf 

WoRSHir makes tcorshipp-er, wcrshipjt-cd^y 

Manifestly accent has no part or lot in 

The six conforuxin^' words are fillip, gall 
scallop, scollop, [delvelop, [enjvelop, and wallop. 

Fillip mi\kes Jillip*ed^ jUHp-mg* 

Gallop makes galU^p^de^ ^awop-er, gt 

Scallop makes scallop'tdy seallop'ing. 

Scollop, the same. 

Wallop makes loallop-ery icalhp-cd, icall&v^in 

Dc and e»-VELOP moke dcvclott-ed, dti^ticp 
dcvelop-ing; and "envelop" follows the 

As there is no eailhly reason why the first 
words of this team should kick over the ti 
let them be at once reduced to order, and 
gom]^€T^ hidnap'CT, worship- er^ and uniformly 
the simple word intact in all the compounds. 

The refractory words in / are more numerooa. 
There are altogether seventy- two words of 
syllables, accented on the first syllable, nnd 
forming to the conditions of having one consoni 
for the last letter, preceded by 'only one voweh 
these words thirty -six conform to the nile, 
thirty-six are a rule unto themselves. 

The simplest way of exliibiting these words will 
be to put them in vowel order. 

There are twenty? ix in aZ^ three of which rel 
against the rule. 


& n. JoiT 26, 71.) 



Equal mhkm equall'tHf eauaU-iti^, nnd, to make 
BUkU^FB worse, equiU-itij^ aUhough the accent is 
mittllt to the last syUable of the simple word, 

Maarhal makes mar$hall-cd, manhaU*ti\ trwir- 
t^M-in^^ but we have manhal'tiea^ matthal-ship^ 
l« perplex young spellers. 

diOKAL 18 the third licentioua word. Tt tnnkea 
ii^naU-^, i%tp%fdl-ing^ &c., but #i^ia/-»V. 

these three wanis are ontroted by tvrenty- 
they ought, without farther question, to drop 

t-niHrnitrnertvrj* if. 

thpee conform in^'^ words which retain 
itKumils the original form are hmtal^ 
"ntdt fortnaif frugal ^ loculj 
'\ tpfcialjVmal^ nnd vocal; 
ttdd tiuiftUil^ /tderal, ifeneralt Wtcral^ 
^iiaiional^ and rational. 
tho*»e ending in -d, the number? nre nearly 
rcverseil» thirty double the hust /, and four do not, 
■o here ia a yeiy nice tnemaria Ucknka for the 

1. Nercr double the laat lot ten 

2. Jn the twenty-si^c words ending in -al there 
Vt t^ — >^^^ ^ - ^, which must be learnt by rote. 

*^ liiree words ending in -« there 

nf? t't»'>u8, but it will be more easy to 

leftTi the three which are not exceptions. 

4, 1- ,--. -IX words ending in -il three go one 

Iwijr md three another; the learner mar master 
b. Of the eight remaining (in -ol and -uf), none 
wm nfiiictory. Our examiners are surprised that 
oor children spell so badly ; would it be less than 
j» miracle if they could cram all this into their 
hmAt at the age of eight or nine ? 
Hi* three ending in -tl which remain true to the 
toI* are — 

CtttsRi^ ikiUl-tA, fhiul-in^, chistl-er* 


ti» (one 
The !: 
the tin^i >.v 


*l [lir ucctMK;. 

•nforming won! a which double 

', -^ Tn«/, dtaptl (not c/www^-rf/), 

/d, ((rivd, {€in}lHiwdf SOmd 

.J ,,....,/ J,o..*v7 7...^./^ 

The other words in I conforming to the con* 
ditions remain unchanged throughout : as CAEol 
makes carol-ed^ earol-iiuft caTol-rr; consul, eon* 
snl-ar, coni^ul-aUj &c. ; oaitbol, gamhol'ing^ gavi- 
hol'td^ &c. ; sTMBot, f!ymhoUis£^ symboUical^ &c. 

The number of exceptions in p and I are just 
equal to the number which conform to the rule, 
and the question is, which should be made to give 
\^'ay \ There cannot be a doubt, that the best plan 
would be to let every word remain in its simple 
state throughouti and merely add the sufHx, espe- 
cially as many of those which double the last 
letter with some b affixes do not double it with 
others : thus, aqimll-ing, fqual-ize, e^iuai-ihj ; goi- 
pell-erj go9j>d-izey &c. Even if we except the suiHx 
izfj we have the rebellious tranquill'Vus to con- 
tradict lis. 

The sum of the matter is this ; at once abolish 
the supemumemty p in the compounds of jomj), 
kidnap J and wordiip. 

At once abolish the supernumerary I in the 
compounds of tqual (half of which go one way and 
half another), rnarthal and tigncU. 

At once abolish the supernumerary t in the 
compounds of bei'il and Hvet, caril and tranqni!. 

There will then remain the thirty in -e/, and I 
have no hesitation in saying let the useless letter 
be dropped without remorse. 

By this means we lose nothings and simplify the 
spelling of a large number of wordn. 

£. OoBiiAM Brewer. 

Lavant, Chichester. 

[Da. Baswsa s replies to comments on hEs "SpsUiag 
Keformfl*' are deferred till he hu concluded the main 

(To hi €0ntinutd.) 

)'md^ and travd, 
i\ double the tiital I are — 
MKVisL, k:t'Ut'€il, bcnU-ing^ and 


Bkviiu and 



Thm llir«9 wmfonni«t« toe civil, civil-ian, cm7- 

id, r : ■ 

rranfiuilt^i:.^!^ &c. (not 

^♦^nled kidneys*'), divil-idi, 

Measuek for Measure, Act i. bc. 1, IL 6-7 
(S^** S. i. 3t)4.)— Mr. R J, Fuknivall's nostrum 
is but a colourable variation of Mr, Spedding^s 
** I add Commission ample," &c* Both commit a 
fault in '* / add/' which pronoun cannot govern 
" let " in the next line. Theobald, Hanmer, and 
Tyrwhiit avoide*! this, by reading respectively, 
** you add/' " yov joyn/' and " you p^it." If these 
emendations are on the right scent, it would seem 
that we should read — 

" But that to you ■ufSclency [you take 
Thiiyour ComniimonJ, at your worth is able. 
And fct them work," 
i, «., " Ami that you let them work together for 
the public weal" Jabcz. 

Athenasum Club. 

P.S.— 8. T. P. (5*>» S. L 263) will find Bddami 
for "Bcdhim'* (King John, iL 2) in Ingleby*s 
CompkU VHt^ (ff thi Sh4tks}}crf Controvi'nyt 18(51, 
p. 205. The word al»o occurs in the sama ^^a^^ 
IV. 2 ; but, all the same, '* BiB^^m" \a tnj^vV. 



JOTES AND QUERIES. ts^an.Jn.tSp.'yc- 

Grkene's ** UrsTART CHOW." — I do Dot remem- 
ber to have s^en it pointed out that the epithi't 
" crow," applied by Greene to Shukspeare in the 
GrmUworih of Wii^ 15d2, had been previously 
applied to Greene's opponents by his friend and 
fiily, Eliote. in the French sonnet prefiaced to 
FfTvnitdes ilu BlaeksfniXh^ 1588, As the passage 
m not quoted in Mr. Dycfi'a Life of Grmifj I 
pve it : — 

*<CoiiTmgej doBC je dis, mon amy Greene, covjnge : 
M^priie del chiens, corb-e»ux ct chathuans U rage : 
JBi ({(lorieax) endure letir muklignantc furie. 
Zojlo urricire, arriere Momus ohien enrage, 
Furieux naiustin hurlant au croiasant argentc : 
Greene jamais Dnyre sauroii ta calomnie.*" 

The existence of a lively feud of some years' 
standing between Greene and the players has not, 
I think, been sufficiently considered by niaoy of 
the writers who h&ve commented upon the "w ell- 
known passage of the Groaisimrth. 

C. Elliot Browne, 

In Shakspeare's play of Th^ Tempest, Act iv. sc 1, 
Fertlinand, in replying to Prosperous injunctions as 
to his bebaTiouT towards Miranda, says : — 

'' Ai I hope 
For quiet dayi, fair ietuei and long life. 
With rack love as *tia now, the murkiest den, 
The mof t opportune place, the etrong'st tuggiiatioti 
Our woTser genius can. shall never mdt 
Mine honour into lust,*' ke. 

So far as I am aware^ this passage baa hitherto 
gone unchallenged, zmd yet it seema to contain a 
misprint of no small importance «» regaida the 
cleame«s of the idea it is meant to express. Is it 
not pr<»babte that Sbakspeare int-cnded Ferdinand 
to say that no conjuncture, however pressing, of 
iimt, place, and ijidmatimi, should overcome his 
sense of duty : and that, oonseauently, instead of 
** den," in line 3, we should read e'en," or " gt'd." 
It is easy to see how, without much asaLatfl-nce from 
bad penmanship, the one word may have lapsed into 
the other. It is not easy to see how, in such a 
mind afl that of Ferdinand, the idea of a " den *' 
should at all connect itself with the supposition to 
which he was referring. And a still stronrjci 
argument against the present reading is, that the 
tantoloCT displayed in the use of both " den *^ and 
** pliice^ indicates a slovenlinesa of composition, 
not to say confusion of thought, which we do not 
often find in 8hak6pe&ie. C. T. 


Favour, — 

" S]pe«dL Is ihe not hard-faToored, Sir ? 
Vol. Not 10 fair^ boy, aa well-favoured." 

Tico Omilemen of VwronOf it 1« 

I How H^-^^ /'livttfr in the old writers oome to bear 
bis 1 Is it a oorruptton of faiturt^ 

atuic . .. evidently refers to features* not comr 
plexioD, ais the above passage shows. F. J. V, 

Was HASiLfiT FatI (5*** S. i. 484. V- If Mn, 
KEifNEDir refers to the Cambridge Shakmptare^ 
edited by MeF^rs. Wright and Clark, he willUnii he 
has been anticipated in the suggestion that "fill** 
is ik misprint for '^ faint.'' I have no doubt of imch 
being ihe cose. Jatbxc 

Mr. Spedding has just sent me two re^amuDtge- 
ments of passages in Lmr^ which he made thirtyj 
two years ago, and which I agree with him in 
thinking manifestly right. The tizst is nftneiMMiiJ 
as a pendant to its foregoing lines^ — ^ 

" They flattered me like a dog ; and told me I bad 
white hairs in my beard ere the black onei weie Hufv.** 

(A reproof of the flattery must follow this.) 
second makes better metie, F. J. F, 

In AWs Well that Ends Well (Act il so. 1) ^ 

" Oft expectation fails, and moat oft there. 
Where most it promisca."' 

Had he in hi^ thoughts the character of Gftlbft I 
represented in Ta^^itus {RisL, L 49)2 — *'"" 
privato visus, dum privatus fuit, et omniu 
sensu capax imperu, nisi imperAsset.'' It is i 
that one of the sayings (cbtiv.) of La 
cauld is based upon it— "II eat plus 
paraitre digne des emplois rju^on n^a paa i 
eeux que Ton exerce," which is proved eT€( 
to be true of the political world. 

0. T. EAMAfiB. 


Mr. Churton, in his Lives of the FQund^sri 
Brazmose, mentions the above as one of the I " 
men of Bishop Smyth, but he was unable to dl^ 
cover the exact degree of rchUionship in wh* "" 
Matthew stood to that prelate ; for (says he) 
of the pedigrees which I have seen acknoi 
him, nor have I been able, from any other aij 
fully to authenticate the fact that he was of 1 
the Founder/' 

By his will, dated December 11, 1547, V 
Smyth constituted his nephew WiUiiu 
B.D., parson of Barton-in- the- Clay, aiiu 
Morwent, his executors ; bequeatluog a tenemefl 
and lands in Sutton, in the parish of Prtscot, 
Lancaster, to his nephew Baldwin Smyth, and I 
heirs, on condition thjxt they should pay tw^en^ 
shillings yearly to the usher of Famwortn school : 

"The place of bis birth iLancashire), the sihjation < 
his cBtate, and the term of hia bequestg (»> 
ton), concar to proTe him to have been a br: i 
Cnerdley family. If his nephews, William h 
were the two brothers so named^ aoni of Bol 
as stated in two of the pedifrrees, he must I» 
brother of ihe Bishop of Lincoln who has e&cuped the 
r«eearchee of horalda and genealogist?. 

*' Baldwin Smjth, a name that rarely oocutr eZsewkerer 
WM an asnstant to the manciple of Braxenoae CoUegev 


IPMI. Jclt25,74.] 



mad mlao groom of the CoHej^e in the ^car 1644 tmd 

Pmfivnr%td»: but wd can b^dlj rappose a, penon oe< 
cupjriDg either or both or these namofo tliAioBa to hnro 
been a nephew of Uie Priiicip&l.*' 

The Baldiriii Bmyth here referred to 10 staCecl 
in the pedigree extracted by Mr, Chiirton from 
the apohivea of Brazenose, to hare "married in 
London/* and to have bad " divers Issue ^' ; and in 
another pedigree* he has two dangbters, Eliza - 

■ "beth, wife of Robert Cromp, and Bridget, wife of 
Edward Thurland. 
There is also another Baldwin Smyth, who, 
with bi5 brothers, Hugh (of Cueitiley), WUliam.^ 
nd Thomaa (of Oxford), id mentioned in seveml 
I of the pedigrees 

] But 1 have been fortunate enough to discov er 
the will of the real Baldwin, in a collection of 
[ Xjinca«»hire and Cheshire wiHs formed bv Ran die 
Hohiie in the Harl MS. No. 2067» fo. 127^; and 
Ijithough it does not enable me to indicate the 
f in wbieh the Princiiwil of Braiienose wm re- 
ft to the founder, it furnishes some infonna- 
\ not ftlTorded by Mr. Chorton'8 researchea. 
is dateil Feb, 27, 1565, and the testator de- 
faimself as of Widnees, in the county of 
ler, yeoman. 

• a religion? preamble, he devises to liiB son 

1 all that meeauage in Hit it on ^ late in the 

BOn of William Hill, deceiLsed, with the 

Ibereto belongin^^ to hold for life, paying 

vwly to Hichard Bold, of Bold, EHi[., and his 

hoMf tvpenhf shillings ti) tht mt 0/ an mher at 

#flim uvriA^ and to snch other uses as is specified 

n| vnl&^gB of award ; and paying also yearly to 

M^ 4)fcMiilor*8} wiie two Ahiliings for her life ; and 

fnnaindeT, after the d^th of the aaid Richard, 

Itia (testotor^s) son William Smyth, and hi^i 

t for tr&r, ** if the mid WUl*" after ray deeeaM 

finale Rftger Hmjrth, my eldest sonne, with 

' I^^emge, and appareli, imtill be 

tmvenient livelyhood." 

01 hia son Richard not occupying 

iia^, and employing it to his own 

iiiuu iir J*? vised it to bis son William Smyth, 

Ma heir« for ever ; naying the same renta, and 

to i1.'« ^ n-1 Richard 10/. within one year 

Ef^fuse to dwell upon the same, 

^^lid William, and liis heirs, 

t in a certain messuap^'C, 

M? holding of Ralph Hunt, 

ld9C«4«5i, '* if be keepe ray sonne Roger as afore- 

^ II tboctUl be meatioDcd th&t the vnri oug pedifcretif 
wr OMi^d^mhlj qoc from tbe othf r. Id one, Bishop 
fclflli ftiedM ««i»» -.< /•-/-' ^t,,iH. ^f Peel Houie; in 
• taoODd, pDft f jcrdley: and in 4 

•IliH. eoo of J V. AndatthoMgh 

Hr. CliattoneaiK Mtn th'- i-vrrth --r.ji of Robert Stnyth^ 
of Ptoil Orm^ Widnem, in tho pmtuh of Pretcot, co. 
' Tfhe ailmit^ that he hsu onlj adopted from the 
.pcdlgrcet that accoiuit which aeems upon the 
i t9«al eooitotent and probable. 

said/* and provided that he suffered the wiffe nod 
children of the swd Ralph Hunt to oceu|iytfe 

He gives to Sir Thomas Hill 2^, to pray for him : 
to his lm>tKei\Mr, WUHam S^ttytk^ 20*, ; to his 
landlord, Mr. Ogle, a bti»bel of cmts ; to hia wlf^ 
huH bhick filly and a bedstead ; to his throe MP- 
vants^ twelve-pence a piece ; to Thomas Rathbone, 
his servant, his beat hose-, and ** the ruBset claaCli 
tlj f f 'boater, payingo for the hewinge mi 

d 1 reof " ; to Thomas Ellam, hia ** nimett 

coau' ; uj liig Bon William, his best coat ; and lo- 
his sons Roger and Richard, his " next '' coat. 

The reaidue of hi^ gootU he directs to be di'?ided' 
into three parts, one of which he gives to Mami^l, 
bia wiffe, another to bi« daughter EUen, and the 
third equally between his t)]rce sons, Roger, Wil* 
liam, and Richard. Hb wife to have the keeping 
of the said EUen, and her share of the goeda^ **m 
long as she will tarrie with her/* The ** seedkige 
thiii yeare " to be divided iuuong his wil^ md 
child pen. 

Finally, he appoints bis wife, his son Willism^ 
and Robert Hichem>ugbe, his eiecutors, and hb 
brother, Mr. William Smyth, supervisor. 

H. Stdnet GaAZEBRoor. 

Taaffk Epitaph.— The following epitapli of 
one who, in hia own times, must have held a veij 
prominent position in a family of groat hktom 
uoto, is a striking im^tance of the un trust worlhiiiMi 
of the printed and MS. t>edigree9 of the family of 
Tiiailb. The papers rebttlng to the attainder af 
Christopher Tttitfle, already referred to in "N. & Q.," 
and the genealogical information conveyed in than, 
although of the most important description (being 
connected with considerable estatea), have been 
ignored in the pedigrees in question, as any one 
may asoertain who goes no farther than the pub- 
liEhed rooorda (Hib, CanocU.}. 

Inatead of these pedi^es being of any uae^ 
beyond affording a ^naraX idea of the ramificsitiQnv 
of an extem<ivo family, they rather tend to obaonrr 
a knowledge of the subject, by the suppression or 
overiookuiff of pjraminent members* and the ailb- 
atitution df othera of leas note, if not of younger 
JSftUapk of Stephen Taaftt S»qKin, m DnMc CkmtfL 

** fn the bpaeath tomb, i^ buried the bodv of Btffphen 
Taaff, Kiq., with that of the Honhle. AlicePluaket, <m^ 
of thedaaghteraof the Right Huxible. Matt. Lord bo wth,* 
bis 1* wife, who died in the year 17"7, aged 3(J jeanN^ 
And of the Right Honhle. Mabd Barnwell^ one of the 
duughters of the Rijjbt Honble, Henry Vigcount Kifin. 
Und, and L&dj Dowoger of Lowth,t his '2^ wife, wdko 
died in the year 1711, ag«d 37— And of hit father, Law- 

* 3ffttthew, lefcntb liArcm 
f Widow of Oliver 
only sou J Matthew, , 

rod, bi 'wViOTa. ^% \i^%^ 



f.9' a n. JtrLr2K.^4. 

re ace Ti*ff| Em|., who died . « . . the ye&r 1709— And of 
Bridget Burk^ one of the daughters of Sir .... Burkj, hb 
3^ wife, who died in the year 171<>, aged 27 yeaw* 

''The B&id Stephen, by his lut will and toitamcnt, 
ftppointed the said tomb to be erected in i&emory of his 
s&id lather, and aaid wireg, and as ii burial place for \m 
poflterity. — Ho departed this life, the 15th of August, 
1730, aged 60 je»n, Bequie^oat in pace." 

A reference to the Fterage ami Baromtage will 
not throH' any light oq these luamagea, or on 
earlier iutenuarria^'ea with the FijigAll family. 

Stephen Taiilie* had two sons— (I) Theobald (by 
his firat wife), afterwards of Hanover S<iiiare, 8t. 
George's, Middx., whosfi wife Buaanna's will is re- 
corded in JaBiaicA in 1754 ; (2) Jolin, of whoni I 
know nothing certain. 

Stephen Taatfe appoint^jd the Earl of CarlLngford 
his execQtor. As hna been ahown^ he was the son 
of Lawrence Taatfe, find must have been bora aliout 
1670, and Jialf-brother of Henry DowdaU. 

It seems to me that Stephen was the son of 
La\^Tence Taafte, of PeppiijnIstowD (son of Peter, 
son of John Taaft'e and his wife, Anna Plnnket), and 
uncle of Christopher TuaJ!e, son of Jame.*!, of Pep- 
pardstown ; but that the Christopher, son of 
George Taafte (deceased), mentioned in Stephen's 
wilJ, Wits the stime LliriMtopber who bequeathed 
hia piatola, &c»j to Theobtdd, Stephen^s son, in 173t>, 

Finallj, I do not think that Sir Wm. Taaffe of 
Smermor's (will 1 Vt2G) sons — Edward, James, 
George, Christopher, and Ch»rles— have been proved 
issueless, or that such important personages in the 
fiimily as Charles Tfiatfe and his wite, the Lady 
Susannah, should ho excluded from th^^ ii^digrees 
given in *M Hutonj of the Family of Taaffe j 
Vienna, 1856,^' fis fh>ra LHster's records. Sp, 

Iksttlar AccEKTtJATiONS. — I once heard a very 
excellent clergyman and popular preacher say in 
the pulpit, " hAlen, hi^dee, hiMee," for ** holy, holy, 
holy." He was a native of the I^le of T^Ian. 

A I'wiy who resided several jeiirs in Jersey toM 
me that the natives there accentuate English words 
very strangely ; i',g,y a man said to her, " It was a 
▼ery meldncholy occiirr^nce. He died of an 
ap<ipl«ry/' S. T. P. 

Literary Parallels.— In the First Part of 
Sir John OldcaMlCf a dmma, by some nttribtited to 
Shakspeare, a quarrel between Lords Herbert and 
Bowia in the streets of Hereford is described, in 
vhicL the Welsh retainers get very noisy. The 
Chief Justice (it being Assize time) appears on the 
scene, and the following dialogue ensues on the 
Welsiunftn otferiog bail : — 

" /atf^e.— What bftil, what Buretiea I '* 

**Davy.—Ilat cozen up Rhice, ap Eran, up Mortce, 
ap Morgan, ap Lluelyn, ap Madoc, ap Meredith, ap 
Griffin, ap Dary, ap Owen, ap 8heukirt, »p Sbones." 

*\fudgt» — Two of the moat ftufficient are enough.** 

* Hifl town houBe wafl in King Street^ Dublin* 

'* 5Am/f.— An please your wonhip they af« all bii 
one t " 

In Wamba's song, " The Widow of Wycotiibe^l 
in IvatiJwef two verses run thus : — 
"The next that came forth awore by blood and by n»ib 

Merrily eang the roundeley ; 
Hat's a gentleman, Qod wot,andbur> linea^are wa»of Wale 

And where was the widow might say him nay? 

Sir David np Morgan ap Griffith ap Hugh 

Ap Tudor ap Rice, quoth hii roundeley, 
She said that one widow for so raany wa* too few. 

And ahc bade the WeUhman wend hit way.** 

A. K- 

CroeswyUn, Oiweitnr. 

Books of Travel. — ** Behold what Mravelal 
amount to 1 Are they not for the most part th 
records of the misapprehensions of the misin 
formed r' This delicious bit is in an article b| 
Mr. C. D. Wamer, in the Atlantic Mojtthtv foi 
May, 1874. W. H. P. 

Mary Queen of Scots and Her AccrsERS,- 
Mr. Hosackf in commenting upon the famou^ 
letters to Botbwell, has adopted a line of defenorf 
which I believe to be quite new. Two r>f thflj 
letters he admits to be genuine letters, written bf 
the queen; but he supposes them to have beeq 
addressed, not to BothweD, but to Damley, in thij 
inter>^al between their supposed private luarnago 
in April and their public marriage in Jtdy, 
With regard to one of the letters, this iaitnpr- 
The Letter 3 (the same which is Letter 8 in ] 
TMjfsertalioii) sLates that she sends it by Paris wit! 
a lock of her hair ; and further on she speaks 
PariA aa one who was thoroughly trusted by hii 
she is addressing. Now^ it is certain that Parti 
had been a servant of Both well, and continued hid 
servant until January, 1567, when, upon ih 
queen's leaving Cullendar House for Gliisgovr,j 
Both well made him over to her to be her chiimbep 
lain. The i>erson who considered Paris so trust 
worthy could only have been his former masterJ 
and not Darnlev, who knew nothing al>out him, 

J. C. M. 

Kirch's Comet of 1680(1).— In the old paritii 
register of Alstonfield, in the Staifordsbire moor 
lands (one of the finest and best presen etl I luiv^ 
yet come across), is this notice of a coioet whic* 
Haydn tells us, terrified the people from its ne 
approach to the earthy and was visible from Zn 
November, IC79, to 9th March, 1G80: — 

**A very atrang k fiery Meteor, in form like a Sword 
appeared north-weut by West in Dec. 16^), &l contiftue' 
auout 6 wecki ; after which ensued a tediotui k Ion 
DroMht, which began Aprill the 10^\ 1681, k continue* 
till June the 20''' of the ? ' ^ 5 tUel 

Wiaeit thought,) procured i aaee^j 

OB Agues, strong ffearoura, .^m aitit; 

tif which many died in v* Cvunir^y, cLifeiy in great 
Cities k towns corporate,' 

John Sleigh. 

^ S. a Jtru 25, 74.] 



[We muit request correflpondenta deffiiing informiktioii 
on fftmfly mattcrfl of onlj pHrate interest, to tkSix their 
! tnd fcddresjses to tlmr queries, in order that the 
t maj be B4dre88od to tbcm dLrecC] 

PoBTKB, OR La Roche.— (1.) The GentUmanU 
Ma^asirifi records the death, on the 7th January, 
1753, of Mrs. Porter, mother of Sir Junies Porter. 
Fh>lu the fiecount of the refugee family of D'Aubrcs^ 
or^ m llie name b now spelt, Daubrez, given in 
Mr. Agnew^s valuable worJc upon the exilea from 
Fnincc' in the reign of Louis XI V.^ I learn that 
this hdy was the eldest daughter of the refugee 

W dAubrc^H and sister to the Rev. Charles ^^;^^_j^_(3^^ -^ ^ Ij ^^^ ^, j 

I>»abre2wn Kector of Kotherham m York- , , ^^^, . ,^^ J. u^^ i^„^ ^' :^, 

(2.) M. k Roche (afterwards Porter) left two 
sons and one daughter, who died UDmam><i The 
elder son^ Sir James Porter^ F,R,S, (knighted 
Sept. 21, 1763), British Ambassador at the Porte 
from Sept. 22, 1746, to May 24, 1762, and subse- 
quently British Minister at Brussels, the author J 
of scveml works on the Eitst, died (teste Annual^ 
Reguttr) in Great Marlborou'^h Street (qy, Bath or 
Lotidtia if), December fl, 1776, aged sixty-six. The 
yoini^or son, John Porter, belono;ed t^ the Salters* 
C/Oiiip:* tiy. was elected alderman of Lime Street | 
W'Avd Ajiril 6, HriS, and died dnt prok April IL, 
175G, in the year of hia shrievalty ; he was tht» 
colleague of William Beckford. He married 
Anne, the eldest daughter of Claudius Amyand, 

Family tmdition, as well ns Mr. Agnew, 
that she married a Monsieur la Roche, 

knoN*' not when or for how long a period, M.P. 
for Evesham, Botli sons bore the arms above ' 

ICrV . '^''^ a Monsieur la nocne i,i,,^„,,^^ ^an any of your re.ulei^ tell me where 
French refugee, who subsequently™ why :md ^^ ^.^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^j ^.^^ ^^ ^^^ l^^^^j^^ j 
IS unknown— assumed the surname of Porter^ "^ PcRnimip T a »i>fvt 

fetaining, however, the amis of La Koche, which 
Appear, fn^m a bidly engraved book-plate in my 
poese&sion, to have been (no tinctures can be de- 
ciphered) *^in Imse, a rock (ntr six pointiJf, over 
which » bird — I believe a hawk — between four 
wing^" These arms are certainly of foreign ex- 
traction. Can any one inform me where I should 
look for further particulars regarding the jmrentage, 
oamr, date;!} of birth, dcnth, &c., of this M. la 
Koche t 

Frbderic Larpext* 

Clarkz Family, — Any of the correspondents 
of " N. & Q.^* who would aasist me with cilhiT 
dates or localities, or any other suggestions or in- 
formation enabling mo to continue the descentij of 
the annexed pedigree, would oblige mc vety 
greatly. The anterior portion from an early pericd 
is fully recorded in the College of Anna. 


Sunae] Clarke, of Kinjf«tborpe,^=^Margarct, dau. of Wm. 
CO. Northampton, D.D., born Pcyt4, of Chefltcrton, 
1 4 Dec. 1585^ died 1640, w. Warwick, Esq, 

Geo. (Jterkc^=Parker. 
of liondon. 

Wni. Clarke, 
a merclant. 




Saml. Clarke,:^ Eli zth.| dau and 
heir of Geo. 
Knight, of Bray, 
CO. Berks. 

KatheriFio, married 
Sir Rtchd. Ravi 1 9- 
ford, Kt, Ban.m of 
the Exchequer. 


*' I'r. BaiTton waj a punster to tbe backbone. He 
■ud. ' the fellow!^ of mj college ivished to have an organ 
fa tJie cliaiieL but I put a stop to it ' ; whether for the 
flake of (he pun, or because he disliked mmuc, is un> 
eertam. He invited, for the love of puiininft^ Mr. 
Cr ' ^Ir. Rookc to dine with himj and having 

K 'Iniorc, aiLother |2:uest, a hint to be rather 

b<i >^n his appearing he said, ' Mr. Rooke, Mr. 

Onjm<t I beg leave to introduce one Bird-more.^ He 
]iiame<l hin niece to a gentleman of the hopeful name of 
Biscklc. The enteriiri.*e succeeded beyond hit expecta- 
Iton. M(^. Buckle wa^ jHlivcrcd of twini, ' A pair of 
Bucktea ' ' ' hoy a or girls :' in quired a congratulating 
^end. The answer may be suppoeed.*' 

Off and on, I have been supposing this answer 
for thr Itt^t fift^^en years, it being about that time 
tihte I first met with the paragraph anent Dr. 
E^fcTton in soiiie "variety column," The York 
iinnid haA jnsl revived it again, and, akft! in the 
bot too weil-remembcred words. I am, con*«e- 
t^acntly, aupposing more vigorously than ever^ but 

would gkdly relinquish my suppositions in favour 
of a fact. Can any one tell me what Dr. Barton 
really did reply to ** a congratulating friend *' / 

St. SwiTSiN, 

' Medai. of William I.— A friend has latei>* 
I given me a medal which was dug up during the 
construction of a railway at Chubb s Hill, near 
I Sevenoaks. It appears to be of bronze^ an inch 
' and a half in diameter, and Iniars on the obverse 
' the figure of a funereal monument, on the base of j 
' which is a bas-relief representing the submission 
of the Saxons to their Nonnan victors. Beneuth 
it ia the following inscription, referring to William 
the Conoucror, *' Nat . 1023 . C-or . lutKJ , Mart . 
1087." The revense beara the bust of the Con- 
queror^ helmed, and clad in ana our of a clmt^ic^il 
t^T^c ; around it h the legend, ** Gulielmtiu 1 . 
Oonciuftiitor , D . G . Aug . Rex . C . L" 1 *^^sfcW^ 
be glad to learn ibe ^nslorj ^sl ^^x^s \w&^Ti2L% ^Vw^ 




it wjis atruck| &c. The workoianahip is apparently 
not later than the last century^ J. Woodward. 

JoAiRfA SorTHCOTE. — Is there any meeting 
hmise or place of assembly in England where the 
followers of ond l)elievers in Joanna 8«uthcotc 
lather together for puqx^ses of religious devotion ? 


[In Londoni tho followers of Joanoft Soothcoie u- 
aeoMe at 97, Trafalpir Street, Walworth. For a full 
doioription of a iDcetin^, see U^iortkodox London (TItLs* 
Itf Bruther«), page 267. J 

SiKiLB Wanted. — Sara Coleridge says in one 
of her letters (Memoir, yoL h p. 169) — 

*' I wish Tery much thnt some day or othfir you mtLj 
have timo to learn Greek, because ilmt luDguihge is an 
idin. Krtn a little of it is like manure to the soil of the 
mind, mid mnkea it bear ttowcra/' 

I have elsewhere seen it stated tluit all reading, 
whether we rememher what we read or not, is like 
manure to the mind. Can any of your readers 
help me to the jMissage T 

John Chttrohill Sikes, 

Lichfield Housej Anerley* 


— In illustration of this old sayini,^, Thomas Muflett 
sayfl^ in Hetdth^x Iinprovanent ; or ^ Rules Com- 
prinmg and Duect'ering tht. Nature^ Mdhody and 
Manner of Preparing all torts of Fmd, — 

"What Bouldier kuoweth not that a roasted Pigg will 
affright Captain Swan more then Ihe eight of twenty 
SpaniftrdB ? What Lawyer hath not heard of Mr, Tao- 
fiel'e conceit, who ia feared an rawch with a dead Duck^ 
aa Philip of Spain woa with a liTing Drake ? *' 

Who are the persons alluded to ? L. D* 

Oliver Cromwell. — I have juBt come upon the 
ioD owing i^asaage in FrophcsitM and the PrGjihdic 
Spirit in tfu OmMiau JSra, by John J. Ign. von 
Dollinger, translxited by Alfred Plunimer. 1 am 
.inxiiouK to know oa whiit authority the statement 
is bftaed :— 

"Gff9i&well oftUBcd events which he intended to brinjj 
aUmt to be inserted in the almanack before handj and 
the astrologer, in consequence^ acquired a high reputa* 
a«»n,"— P. 8, 

K. P. D. E. 

*'Dkisology."— i>«ri7io%y; or, tJie Union of 
MeagtfH and Elegance. Ls there such a work, or iV 
it the invention of the Edgewortlis, in Essaij on 
Ifith Bulh, p. 221 i C\ A. Ward. 


Author Wastkd.— Will Olphar Hamst oblige 
me with the name and any partieuhira of the author 
of the following work : — 

"A new and full Critical, Biographical, and Geo- 
mphical History of Scotland, containing the history of 
iho ■ufiCQSflion of theii- Kiugs from llobert Bruoe to Ihe 
proseat time, with an imporfeiiil account of their ooa- 

fitiintion, genius^ manners and customs: with a Qeo^ 
graphical description cf the seTeml Counties, their cora- 
moaitica, rarities, antiquities, and commerce; together 
witli au Appendix of a short hut Just history of their 
most remarkable writers and learned men, and a Map of 
each Coanty In Scotland. Fro Eege ot Patria. By an 
impartial hand. I^ondon : printed for the Author* and 
sold by the bookscUersof London and Westnunster, 1719* 
All the prints, engmvingaj kc, are by Boitard.'' 

Charles Masovs 
3, Gloucester Crescent Hyde Park, W, 

From Sir Robert Wilson's Note-Book.^^ 
Kt'mhle always pronounced the word ** aches *^ 
" ar/c^t'-s*' likethe letter h. He was much censured 
for this, but Shakspeare's puna prove him to 
have been correct. Much Ado aho^it Nothing, 
Act iii. fic. 4: — 

'* Btatrict. Bv my troth T am exceed ingly ill — Hei^h-bo ! 
Marffartt. {"or a Hawk, a Horoe, or a Husband t 
Bmtrirt. 'Tis the leittr that begins them alL** 
Antony and Clwpatra^ Act iv. bc. 7: — 
** Anton}/. Thou bloedest apace. 
^ScariM. I baTe had a wound here that was like a % but 
now it is like an U," 
Is there any con'oboration of this pnumndatioii 
in other authors of the time or before it ? 

Herbert Rajowlph. 

The Ealiols, — I make bold to ask any of your 
correspondents who may be willing to undertabe 
tlie tiusk, and who may travel towards Normandy 
and Brittany, to learn for me— 

L Whether the tomb of John Baliol, formerly 
King of Scotland, is still in existence, and in what 
condition of repair. 

2. To send me a description architecturallj, 
heraldically, and MUth local tnidition. 

A pholo^aph or careful pencil study of the 
tomb woidd be greatly prized by me, and would 
eventually form the subjeet of an engraving. 

I am, lastly, anxious to know the condition of 
the tomb as to repair, and its iitness, or otherwise^ 
for restoration. 

Cotman, in his Uluatrated description of the 
Churches of Normandy, states tliat in 1827 the 
tomb wa» then in existenee. 1 do not think ho 
relates exactly in what church situate ; but if my 
memory serves me, I think he states thnt John 
Baliol was buried in the neighbourhood of Mofts 

or of Castle Oaillard. He wu- "^ ^' Vccauip; 

and not improbably in* the nei; i of that 

toT^Ti some ridings of the last r- , ^ of this 

most unfortunate monarch may It mI. iK'd. 

I address myr^elf specially to blLuIuu^ u( BoUiol 
College, of wliich the iather or grandfather vf John, 
the King, was founder. J* R. Scott, 

Knells, Beedtng, Sussex. 

The Ftxdern Monument is Childrkt 
CHtTRcH. — \yhere can I Had a pubiiabed drawing j 
or description ot this monument ? P. 

Cromwell Crescent. 




5»B, II.JtMX5,74.J 



SxBLRTr» OR 81BLEI-.— What is the crest of (he 
aboTG faioihr ? Of Saxou origin, it is now ?ett]ed 
in Deronslure* A Constant Beadbr. 

Tde WiL.t.ow PATTKnA'. — Will any render of 
**N. ft Q.' kindly infonu nie in what publication 
I eaa find the story of the Willow- Pat t4?rn Plate i 
Edward C Daviibb. 
Jonior GArrick Cluh* 

PlTBKBT '' is used in Suffolk to si^ify a pod of 
I can find no mention of it in Sloor s Suffalk 
^otd>i^ or in Forby*s Vocdlmlnrfj of Esd Anglia. 
Is it merely another form of " peascod ** i 

C. Davis. 
15, C^unpdtin Grofe^ Eendngton. 

Bqjxq, — 

" I Mnt my love a loiter^ 

But, aX»a I sho cann* read, 
And I lQ*e her a' the better/* 
in Sifhiag Loicta^ by Mrs. CiiKkell, as 
worda of the lover of Jess Mac Fitrlane.'* 
er© may this song be foiind^ and who was the 
bor of it ? E. T. 

**A Walk ix SnETLAim/' — There wjis printed 
nt KJfpil>!ir 'Ik in 1831, a small book, entitled— 

Slietlnnd. Bj Two Eccentrics. B? the 
Au Jew Exile in the Hightuida and Islaad^ 


'i as pttbl iahed in Lond on, by Eflingham 

Wikon, in 1828. Tlie writer appears to have been 
A in«rv facetious person. Can anybody name him I 

A. G. 

(5**» S. L 364, 469.) 
I am glad to find from Mr. A. M. SHAW^l 
Uitcr that we are almo^^t agreed as to the names of 
tbo [wuties who fo. 1-1.1 faf the North Inch. Mn. 
8tCAW offen thHom 1^ on ray communica- 

1100, bnt as they <i t materially the pointa 

which 1 wished to insist. I shall merely say, in 
to thetn, thnt the older writera seem to have 
the terms parentela, dan, kin, and family 

Mr. Shaw is right in supposing that, by 

IIt« oldest anthors. I met\nt Wyntoun, the 

of Moray, Bower, Major, and Boece. 

after making allowance for the rois- 

' in saying that the com- 

nd Clan Qahelc. One of 

1 iine^ of the leaders. 

.;ti Sha Beg or Sha, 

ii A A, and Christr John- 

,0 Clan tt>uhele. V^yntouu 

111 it* viVi'T^Q the leaders* 

; and we mast 

od down by the 

» " of verse, nnd that no eubsequent author 

f i hifi Hoeming assignment of leaders. 

zL, i\s Others besides Mk, Shaw may have 
heard now, for the first time, that the fight was a 
consequence of the battle of Oasclune, I shall give 
my reasons for this opinion at some length, as they 
hare never before been fully stfited. 

It may be premLied, that the fight in question 
was a diidlo of a verj' peculiar nature. Govern - 
luent was not in the habit of asking contending 
tribes to settle their differences in such a vi^y, nor 
used tribes to offer to do so. Indeed, the Scotch 
Goveniment was indiffexent enough to the inter- 
necine feuds of Highlaoden?, in which they inter- 
fered little, espcciEiily before the time of James I. 
It is, tlierefore, probable thnt, in the fight on the 
Inches, they had a special object in view, and this 
object is, I think, sufficiently indicated to iib b j 
the efirly authorities. 

Two of the four names that appear in the lists 
at Perth, Clan Quhele or CheweU, and Sha or 
Sheagh, occur in the roll of men outlawed for 
the Raid of Angus, 

WjTitoun, after giving an account of the fight at 
Perth, immediately reverts to the disaster at 
Gaschme ; and, while showing supreme indifference 
to the fortune of the ckns, regrets that the loss at 
the former combat by no means came up to that 
which had been siiatained at the latter. This 
reference would really be quite objectleds, if the 
two fights did not stand In some relation to each 

Bower, Major, and Boece, all mention the fight 
of Katerans at Perth just after the fatal skirmish 
with Kateraas at Gasclune. As the one followed 
tolerably close upon the other, this is ooly natural, 
and would not necessarily signify very much, were 
it not for the specitic statement, which has been 
made by the continuator of Fordun, of the year 
1461, in the Bodleian (and whose work haa not 
been printed, unless veiy recently). He says that, 
by the management of the Earl of Crawford and 
other nobles, the tribes, who were rava^jinj their 
own country, w^re induced to send tl cis, 

along with their chief and more influr:i nU, 

to go and alay each other at Perth ; lor, owiak to 
their plundering, the whole county of Angus nad 
not been able to enjoy any peace, and not long 
ago those very wild Scots ipn had slain in the 
field the Sheriif of Angus and many of the nobility, 
Buchanan also, in 1582, ha\'ing all the accounts of 
prerioua authors before him, gives us expressly to 
undenit^ind that the combatants at Perth, whose 
names he does not mention, were two families 
of robbers concerned in the Raid of Angus, and 
he conccivira that '■'* '"--^ '" ...♦.a.. r>if>ce of policy 
on the part of th* 1 i of Mora^j-^ 

as they could not ;u. , l. ^ ,, ihem in their 

own count r}' without the risk of a heavy los« of 
men, to persuade them to alaiiLrhier each otber ia 




a public combat ; and they fouDd this to be no very 
difficult matter, owing to an (old) violent (end ! 
having broken out between them. Old is Wyn- 
toun's word. There ia, therefore, no novelty in 
the conclusion, which has been forced on me, thiit 
the tight at Perth grew out of the Raid of Angus 
and out of the desire of Government to Dunieli 
those who had been concerned in it. Whether 
Government in this merely showed its weakness, 
or whether it hod any object in view, such as 
affording a speckwk to the Court and its foreign 
visitors, is immat^riid to us. 

3. To what district did Sheach and his brothers 
and all Ckn GhewLl, if all of one nice, belong \ 

It IK nexirly certain that they must have lived in 
the Heights of Angu« and of Al^erdeen, The 
name of Clan Chcwil, m the Act of rarUanient of 
1391 (the only name of a chin mentioned in the 
list, by the way), comes after Duncansons and 
Macnaire, and other Perthshire names, and is 
followed by those nf Mowat and Cowter on Lee- 
aide. It is really of no great importance in a 
general sense to know to which Uhm Sha the 
Little or the mn of Feruuhar belonged ; but it 
is of some moment to know that there were 
in Brae Angus, or Braemar, at that period, 
Shas, sons of Fe^iuhar, closely allied by mar- 
riage to the LuncansoDB, the leaders of the 
Raid of Angus, and fmrther that, in the same 
district, a Ferquhar, Ferquhar Mackintoshy, as 
early i\m 1382 hiid l)een plunderiHg lands on 
Leeside at Birse, t^ which he laid claim. 

Other facta, tending to fix their locality, are, that 
the Earl of Crawford, himself holding iandts Ln 
Angus, was selected to act againat them ; further, 
that the Act of ParEament of 1391^ directing the 
town of Aberdeen to proceed against the outlaws, 
would have been a mere hm turn fulmctif if some 
conHiderable portion of those who were outhiwcd 
were not to be found on the etistern side of the 
Grampians. I shall go one point further, and my 
that if, as we have every reiison to suppose, the 
tribes on the eastern side of the Grampians were 
closely connected with their immediate neighbours 
on the western side, and the latter were involved 
in the feud that led secondarily to the fight of 
the InchcK, it was natural to a^isociate with the 
Earl of Crawford the Earl of Moray, a more 
northern potentate, and neighbour of the more 
weistern tribea. I hope that I have thus made out 
pretty clearly the origin of the fight of the Inchej*, 
and the geographical position of at least a portion 
of the combatants. 

It is perhaps for the present premature to go 
into other questions ; for instance^ which party 
was victorious in the hard -fought contest at Perth, 
about which point » however, there never haa been 
reidly any doubt, as all writers who hjive men- 
tioned them at oil arc agreed that Clan Quhele 
ne/v victoTS^ or at whrit period the mimes of Clan 

Sha or Clan Chat tan appear in history (Glen- 
quhattans not having been introduced into the j 
combat at the Inches till 140 years after the fight), I 
or whether the old theory that tlio Camerong 
fought at the Inches can be maintained, 

I shall be thankful for any light that Mn, , 
Sha%v may be able to throw on those subjects in I 
his forthcoming work, especially such jxj? he tells I 
us he has derived from charters and deeds, which 1 
are certainly more authoritative than family tradi- I 
tiona, which, in the case of Celtic races, are almost \ 
necessarily tinctured with what is called Highland 
pride. But I would venture to say that iiny 
version of the fight that C4\n be accepted must not, 
at least in my opinion, overlook the ascertained j 
names and geographical position of certainly ono I 
portion of the comoatant^n, or the influences whiclij 
Je<l them to engage in the combat. 

Sows MAcrflERSoN, M,D. 

Curaon Street, W. 

"The Althorpe Pictuhe GAixEar-^: Maet 
J. JouRDAJT (5*** S. i. 348, 435, 516,)— I haTO 
much pleasure in giving Olphar Hamst the in- 
fonnation he seeks, and a little more which doubt* 
\^m will be acceptable to him» 

Lient.-CoL Henrj^ Georf^e Jourdan, of the lOtJj 
Madras Native Infantrj'' Kegiment, was a son of 
John Jourdan (a weaver) and Susanna his wife^ of 
Spitid Sc[uai'c, in the Liberty of Nortctn Folgate. 
He was Imptized at Christ (jhurch, itiddlesex, on . 
the 23d June, 17S4, when twenty-three dnys old.j^ 
He was a cadet of 1804 ; lieutenant, l7th July^ 
1805; captain, 14th May, 1821 ; major, 24th May^ 
1828 ; nnd lieu tenant- colonel, tJth July, 1.^33. He 
retired from the service on the Itjth February, 1838 J 
and embarked on that day for England on th^ 
** Mary Ann," he being apparently the only 
senger on board of the name of Jourdan. 

His first furlough to Eiiro^K* was on privjiti 
affairs, and he left Madras in the ** Windsor*' on 
the 13th August, l&Ui; While at home h\k ^on 
Henry Fmncis Halcombe, Wiis boni, 3rd Miin 

1822, and baptized on 31at May, 1822, 
Horsham, Sussex. The baptismal entry dcsciib 
this child as *' son of Col'. Jourdan of the \ 
Army on Furlough, of 32, Hunter Street, and ofl 
Mary Johnson Jourdan/' As Col Jourdan's ma 
riage is not rec4>rdcd as having taken place 
India, the probability is that he married soon afU 
his arrival in England in 1820. Another son 
Alexander Harcourt, was bom 0th April, IS 
and baptized at Hor&ham, Sussex, on 31st May] 

1823, and is described in the baptismal entry i 
"son of Col^ Jourdan of the Madras Ani»y on 
furlough, and Mary Johnson Jourdan.'* 

He returned to' Miulras with his wife id th 
" William Fairlic," arriving there on tlie 2nd JillyJ 

He died on the 10th November, 1860, ftl 





Westboume Park, aged s^aventy-seven {see Allen's 
Indian Mail, 13th November, I860, page B48) ; 
and by probate of bis will of 6th December, 18(>0, 
J^ne Eliza JourdiiDj spinster, and Johii Hobert 
JouTtbiD were his executors. His widow, Mary 
J. Jourdan, died 22tid December, 1865, at 19, 
Weatbaurne Park (see Allea'a Ijidia^i Mail^ fJ7tb 
December, 1805, p{\ge 086). 

Hta son, He my Francis Ha-lcombe, was educated 
At Midbur?t, and wil^ afterwards a ctidet in the 
Madra* unny» Sailed in the " Mary Ann '■ on the 
*i August, 1839, for Madras, Died 3uth August, 
E, at Secanderabad (see Time^t 12th November, 

The other »on, Alexander Harcourt, was educated 

Bexley and at Midhurst. He too wiis ;ifter- 

" I ft cadet in the Madras army. Sailed in the 

li«wd Kyd" on the l&th March, 1841, for 

Madras. Bied 24th April, 1845, at MiVilrHS (see 

Timai, *Jih. June, 1845), Charles Mason, 

Gloocciter Creioent^ Hyde Pftrk. 

Field-Lore r Carji, Ing, &c, (4*^ S. xi. xii, 
pauirft; 5'*^ S. i. 35, 131, 311, 376, 409.)— Will 
your several correspondent?, who have given en- 
couragement and contributions to the stock of 
field -lore, accept my thanks ? — too long delayed 
while trying, under invalid dmwbacks, to illus- 
tnU€ our old words, which I see youn;^er persons 
eaonot know &o well, and strangers oft^en mist^ike, 
or from books alone misinterpret, 

Mft. CoBDEAUx's list of Lincolnshire field- 
njkmes, with hia interesting description, has been 
jklready replied to by Mr, Peacock and others, I 
Ibink ; but I may observe that they seem sng- 
gottive of an influence kindred to that which g^vve 
<nir own name^, yet modiiied aa the circumstances 
of the district would lead usj to expect. Wonis 
have varyin^^ shades of meaning in diiierent phices ; 
and however well we may know our omti^ for a 
diatAnt county one can only suggest, with safety. 
in^tiLncc, ^^ groves " in such a situation as that 
ibcd would idmost give an idea of these fields 
r ' ' .twered in making the embankments. 
, is to dig ; grotcn, that which is dug. 
ur felU, are culled by rustic people 
; pron^ gruives, and pitmen gniivers. The 
woog fuggeatod to me Dan. vang, a field ; 
in BoiwoHh uoitg is A.S. ; we have not 
rKiines, Bridge Carr, Reedforth, and 
11 the tale of marsh, the tirst in Ian- 
:t of many northern counties. Hag 
utting here ; pmt Hag in synonymous 
. *' Gttun on like a man haggin' rice," 
in 1 have heard frcim old people, to 
progre^ made in a short time, as of 
v^n bnishwood (Dan, nw), compared 
hewer of timber. I have heard it 
- sense of one who causes great 
'-•, W6 have also the verb to 


Aain, to spare, to protect, hedge ; " It g«tB nae 

To K nf for notice of carr* in Norfolk, and 

to A- J. M. for ings in Yorkshire, I am indebted, 
especially to the latter for the quotation showing 
that a word so beautiful in its associations is not 
neglected in ^* contemporary verse. ^' This, I pre- 
sume, is of a lociU character, and I should be glad 
to know the title of the book in which it appciira. 

Mr. Dobson mentions ings in Durham, and 
H. T. C, a list of field names in Lancashire, oon- 
taining only the oft-recurring carr, which I recog- 
nize. But what is F^?^/t, with which it seems <*ynony- 
mous? (We have name» Flosb, Flasa, &c,, which 
I have suspected to be reclaimed bog,) " Carr- 
dole," there, might be a divided marsh, perhaps, 
like moss-da i<Jt, in Cumberland ; and dti//-dike, of 
which the responsibdity is shared, a hedge or 
stone wall. And what is the derivation of Jiik, 
** fittie land," mentioned by Mr. Cordeaux, 
which is beginning to be written Fiti ? M. 


Will M, pardon ray correcting his statemeirt 
that the word ing is "wanting along the West 
t'cwiat of Cumberland.*- There is a Ponsonby Ing 
Fell near Calder Abbey, and a few miles south of 
Whitehaven we have a gentleman's seat called Ing 
W^ell. I would also suggest that the provincial 
name for meadow sweet (Queen o* t' Meddow in 
West Cumberland) may come from the Fr, " Reine- 
de«-pres." A. MiDDLEToy, M.A, 

School House, Kmg»bridg<!. 

In an old map of property in the parish of 
Cheriton, co. Kent, dated 1713, the following 
names of fields occur which I fail to trace in con- 
nexion with any recorded owners or occupiers : — 
"Bonyers," ^'Daniers Church," '' Great Eastbinn," 
" Little Eastbinn.** \Mience are they derived J 
Hardrjc Morfhtn. 

I do not think that there is much chance of the 
name Ing^ as applied to a meadow on the bank of 
a river, being superceded or forgotten in Yorkshire. 
When curate of Bolton Percy, in that county-, I 
used always to hear it applied to the low dying 
grounds on the banks of the Ouse and the Wharfe 
in that parish. Perhajw^ by way of illustration, 
I may be allowed to quote a paissage or two from 
The Lifc^of Lord Fairfax, by Clements H. Mark- 
ham, Esq. :■ — 

•' From Tftdcaster to itc jaaoiion with the Ouwj at 
Nunappleton. the Wh&rfe i^ a hro&d tidal nrer, wtth 
sides covered with ootj mud called varp, and is subject 
trj Hitodi, The \ovr niejulotrs along itt baiik», whicli lire 
often under water in the winter, are called ingi/* — P,f»7. 

And again, speaking of Nunappleton Hall, onc€ 
the property of the Fairfaxes, now of Sir William 
Milner, Bart., he observes : — 

** A noble park, trith i|Jetidid oak tree*, and containiwi^ 
30O head of deer, ttrelcbtd vwkm \.q >Xv% t\qx>^\ ^V^ 



[5^8. ai^ntSf,^ 

on ili« «out1i Bide were the miBH of the old Dunnery, the 
fiower-g^rden, &nd the low meadows cnlled ins*$ c^' 
tending io the banki of the Wlukrfe."— P. 366. 

Burkej in hiB Hiitory of ifu Commoners, vol, i, 
p, 32:2, fljiya thut the luges of Thorpe* C/onstuntine, 
AQ imcieat family in the county of 8ttii!'ord, derive 
eir name from a field or meadow. 

John Pr?kford, M.A. 
' Newboumc Rectory, Woodbridge» 

AuTooRAPn OF BrRKS (5<*' B. L 283 ; ii. IL)— 
The point involved is, whether the address in 
MS. *^ To Termughty " on his seventy-first birth- 
day^ which la in the hands of Mr. Johnston, 
iji ftn aiitogmph of the poet Burns, It seems 
to be iissnmed that it h ; but any hypotheaia, 
in niy Wow, more groundless is Imrdly con- 
<5eiviible. The handwriting is not, in any of its 
features, like any of BtimB^s ob»er\'ed. Tlie 
MS, is admittedly not the original ; it is clearly 
not the ])oet'B dnift, but a capij^ by whomsoever 
inude. The letters of the >vTiting throughout are 
very small ; bo small, indeed, that there may be 
rea^^onable doubt whether, if Burns had attempted 
to write in such small characters, he could have 
accouinliBlied his intent. The handwriting ia 
like thsit of a female, or it may be like that 
of those preachers who were in the practice of 
compre&sing into ismall iipjice their notes in- 
tended ft>r use in the pulpit, &c. The MS, 
may thereforw have been penned by Miss IM niter 
from the original draft, or a copy, or, as it might 
be^ from the poet^s dictation, or that of some of 
his family at his house in Dumfries, where Mhs 
Muiter was accustomed, it h said^ to visit. Or 
nerhaps it mny be the handwTiting of the Rev. 
Mr. Little, Migj* Maitor^g relative, a copy from the 
copy (possibly by Bums) said to htive been given 
him by Miss Muiter. There is a great abuse of 
capital letters (i. 2S3), of which there is no example 
in any of Bums's other MSS- Thii^ abuse is no 
flagrant, indeed, as to establish not only a w^ant 
of scholarship, but practice in writmg. There is 
al»o an entire want of tK>inti*, which Burns, who 
was, indeed, a master in punctuation, never dis- 
pensed with. Severjd words are also mis-spelt; 
«8 **acarBe," "meets,'' ** DeeL," "Gomorroh/ &c 
The fourth line of verse two has been first written 
in cnntinuation of the third line, and afterwards 
blotted with ink. Could Bums have done this I 
There are none of the back-hand strokes forming 
letters to be found in this MS,, which occur in 
most, if not all, of Burns a MSB. ; as, for example, 
the last limb of the letters p, h, m, n, &c. On the 
contrary, every letter of this MS. haa the usual 
regular slope from right to left. The copyist, 
besides, has mistaken the iiuthor> words, and tlie 
meaning intended by him to be conveyed, " Un- 
scoured '* appears in the second line of verse one, 
while *'tmsoured" is the word adopted in all 
a ccnani ble editions of the poet's works. Either 

seems unhappily used to transmit the miihor'i 
meaning ; luid possibly his word was 
*. fi, not scored, scratched, harrowed, or lace 
Health scoured would be health cle4kred, wa 
cleansed » or purged, to its benefit or iniprovea 
while health moured is next to meaningless, 
import of the fifth line of verse one is ambiguon«J| 
Burns 'meant to say that, as n uovv.. 1u w .- 
spired, and hence saw that T 
constitution, or frame) was 
worn," inasmnch as it was **Btutf U prietV ♦*< 
stufiT which was proof, or probably over ifTOof^- 
more than proof ("o'er prief"), — a fact that 
established by the more than patriarchal Ji^ 
which TerraugUty had reached. Then, the 
line of the second verse is, " This day thou 9ncis(i| 
threescore eleven." But Terraughty did not 
that age as if it was conimg towards or confrontin 
him. To meet signifies to come together fro 
different phctii. He had rather come up to, 
with, metedt measured, or reached that age. Three- ' 
score and eleven years was then the measure of 
his days. 

Burns never committed all, perhaps not 
one, of these unscholarly blunders ; and therefoi 
they must be placed upon the shoulders of i' 
much less learned and less practised copyist. 

K. M. J. 

The Empebor Alexander II. (5'*^ S. L 46^ 
ii, 36, 55.) — The spelling C-^ar is not a new inv« 
tion of the Engli.^h press. It has been in use T 
in English and French for at least fifty years, 
never heard that the Russians considered * 
insult, and to my ears, and those of othefl 
Eic«|uainted ivith the langiinge, the t; givef" 
sound of the Russtnn letter Wtter than the s. 
K^licve the word is derived from an old Ta 
title, Chazar^ or The title of the heil! 
apparent is of more modem date. T )i(A\i 
probably me^int to indicate that tb* 
peror is the successor of those of t 
but, though wTitten Cesarevith, it ia usnaliy ' 
nounced in Russia Czart^vitch. 

The mute t at the end of all Bn 
ending with a vowel has no more 
one at the end of the French wordi* w^t; *itii;*4 
Probably Mr. Dilke was thinking of the wow 
Czarieh, as it occurs in the first line of the Nation 
Hymn, and the title of the Russian opera ( ~ 
za C ' \ - jmich spoken of at the time ( 
recc I - ; but in both these cases it 1 

objecuv<j ioirii of the word whi ' " " ^ "^ 
is the formula, "Emperor > 
** a gross error," It hajs, of t.\Mi, e, ....,..,i»;. 
ever to do with Rns^sia in Europe and Kn 

imited under one ruler as they now arc i bive 





*thb iiionicnt^ before Tne » mooUmation rekting 
a treaty wj , in Kttfisioti tmd French, 

which Hia . lajesty's tities are, *' Em- 

ir et Autucratcui dc toiites l$« HituieSy de 
^ irie, KiGvie, Wlfidamir et Novoeorod, Czar 

%^ KasaD^ C ' * ei. Czar de Sib^rie/' 

besides about iikedoma, ditkedoms^ 

piincipalities, .-mi jiMu-^innsn 

AU-Rassiao would imply that the Emperor had 
&o foTcign hUtod m hU veins, which ib far from 
bdag the case ; besides the word woald theo be, 
in Bmebn^ V6i or VsJ^rooBsko], whereas it ia 
Veinoossiaskitt, a genitive pltual form. There ia 
nothing to correspond to ifm^ only because there 
ure DO articles in Russian ; bat m Engli^ thej 
are absolutely necessary to the sense. 

For ins»tance, take the following Husfil^in sentence : 
Y» (Ij vilida (ordered) chelavok (man-servant) 
pteeteet (to come). Would Mr. Dilke translate 
It, ** I otiiered man-servant to come/' or *• I ordered 
I4« fnan-seiTaDt to come"? B. Y. H. 

^m With rc^iard to Mr. Morfill^s note on the 

^Mmtniion of the word Tsar, I think that its 

^f imiireiiiJ use, not only at the present day, but 

■ a0 &r bttck afi we can truce, among the Russian 

' |»eMaBtiy, who are greatly given to clinging to old 

dtlfiMy and among whom new ideas sain ground 

bat *lowlv. is almost conclusive proof against the 

the* uoman derivation. 1 believe it to be 

A cu ' moe of double derivation, of a dcri va- 

tioti littcd on to a word already in uae, and arising 

dllielly from the accidental aimilatity of the Polish 

fipetling, r\iir, with the word Ciesar, Tliough 

Imfiefrntor has been the official title since Peter 

llie Great, I have never heard it on the lips of a 

BufeBJAii peosantf and a large part of them consider 

•hort of an abomination, or the mark of 

mt, whereas^ if we accept the derivation of 

■ ' mr, we mnni allow that a perfectly 

came national in a few years, and so 

Lirpated the more ancient title-^i as to 

<sian language without any native 

^r their nder. The Emperor himself 

nmy be eadled as a witness on my side, for it is not 

pnAmble he- would give up his claim to so 

that of successor to the Cfesars, 

le the comparatively unmeaning 

' were- not assured that ^Tmr (which 

by the way, himself seems un- 

F to apc'U) is ft native word, repre- 

tlowerthan his own. I may mention 

f»*ian peu^iint? as know of the existence 

of tte Emperor of Austrm^ call him Tsesar^ and 

hkoovntry TH*arhaiti^ with the idea of drawing 

«kuiy the distinction between him and their own 

WliiJ* Ikir. 

I do HOC o6DAider Kamm^iu as a great authority^ 
■ad k b A<m the fashion to set him down ; but at 
UhI he VM A Russian^ which ia more than can be 


said for Bchofikrik and Kopitar, quoted by Mr* 


I grant without hesitation that I deserve the 
rebuke for the use of do slipshod a term as Turaoiao. 
I should never have used it to express any form of 
speech ; but as an antithesis to Aryan, and to show 
my doubt whether the word in question was Turk, 
Finnish, Mongol, Assyrian, or Babylonian, I think 
its use is pardonable. I may add that I have no 
wish to derive it from Belahazaar or from the Car 
of Sumir and Akkad, dear to Hungarian etymolo* 
gists ; but I must express my wonder that, if the 
word really came from Europe to Russia, the date 
of its importation and naturah^sation should not 
have been fixed long ago by one of those many 
German mvant4i who are so anxious to prove that 
Sbvonic barbarism can invent nothing, not even 
a mune for its oppressor. I nuiy be wrong, but 1 
have as yet not seen a single argument to prove 
me BO, and I think the onus probandi lies certainly 
on the other side. Ashton W, Dllkk, 

There is no trace whatever of tinj native Slavonic 
root for Tmr in Tauchnitz's Dicttanary^ where we 
find two forms thuM Anglicized. 1. Tmry, whence 
Tsarovit^chy ; 2. Tsr^ari/, whence Tsemreffti^ T»$^ 
sarovitjch, Tuetarcvna. Of these fluctuating ortho* 
graphics, the latter is very near to the original 


The strongest reason, offering argument In ab- 
sence of proof, is that Byziintium, whUe ruled by 
the dynasty of Greek Emperors, was called Czar* 
gorod by Russians, i. <., the city of Csesar, when 
as yet the chief ruler of Russians ninked only as 
Grand Buke, It was because their line became, 
by mrtrriage, representatives of the Greek Emperoi*, 
that a Rub^iequcDt (J rand Duke assumed the title of 
Cmr^ i.<f.T Emperor or Ciesar. A. H, 

Sir Edward Maria Wikopield, 1670 (5**^ S. L 
48B.)— CoRKUH jisks whether ** Maria" may not 
(in Biu'ke's History of the Cammoners) be a mis- 
print ; if not, how came Sir Edward by it, and 
did any male member of the family before 1G08 
bear the name ? A passage from Camden s Et- 
nuiints answers all these questions : — 

" But two Christian names are rare in SngUtndt and I 
only remember tiow his Hajeitj. whoivas named ChurleM 
Jama\ aa the Prince \\\& *onno Bnirtf Frederic; and 
among pri?atc men. Thomag Mariv )Vin£fUld and dr 
Tkomns FotUiumuM Uoblt/. AUhongU it if common in 
Italy t'^ adjoTne the name of some Saint, in a kinds of 
devotion to the Christian name, as Johannes Bavtista 
Spinuia, Johannes Francitcvi B€ifrhomew, Martms 
AniomiHS Fiawiniui ; and in ^paine to adde the name 
of the Saint on who*c day the childc wr« borne-"— 
Remoine^ coneerninff Bniamt, the fiffe ImprcMion, 
1637, p. 49. 

The following extract from the summing-up of 
the Lord Chief Justice in the Tichborne t'ase is 
not without interest : — 

'* I don't know whcUm Kx. «c»\^^ 1^^^ 





but it is a fact that when Arthur Orton ihvppcd on 
h(mrd the Jessie 31 i Iter to go home, he did uot ahip in 
the name of Arthur, but of Joseph 31. Ortou, What 
does JoBCTih M* mean ? What does the M. stand for ] I 
Bu^npest ' Mari«L* There is no doubt that it is the «ime 
Arthur Orton who signed * Joseph >L' This i* jul- 
milted. But when he came to London he was Arthur 
drton Again. Tlie change of religion bad serred Lis 
mrpoie, and the new u&nie waa con§equently dropped. 
ST^othing IB more common abroad than for a male to be 
(l>aptizeJ, in ndditiori to frouie opdinarr Christian name, 
with the name * Marie ' or * Maria.' Ilierc is a fumiliar 
instance in the cauie of Jean .Marie Farina, and one of 
the gentlemen who received Arthur Orton in his hou»e 
woa Jo«e Maria Toro. If, therefore, Arthur Ortou woa 
re-bttptt*ed^ Jose Marm Toro wm very likely to bo 
his godfather. When Arthur Orton signed the nnme 
' Joseph M./ he would Imve been the laughing-stock of 
the sailors on board if he ha^l written * Maria.* " — The 
TimetlUport.p. 5, Feb. 17, 1874- 

Sir Alexander Cockbura added, " I don't think 
[rioniai]"! Catholic Enfrlishmoo tsike * Maria' in 
JadditioQ to their onlinury CiiviKtian nsime?.'' I don*t 
Tijiow whether they do uow, but the paaaage I 
have quoted from Camdea shows that they did 
once upon a time. 

Sparks Henderson Williams. 
1$, Kensington Crescent, W. 

" The Three Bears" (5**» S. i* 506.) -England 
obtained this favourite nursery taJe immediately 
from the poet Sou they. It may be found in Tht 
Jtodor, vol iv., 318. A» L. >LvviiEW. 


" Drawback '* (5*^^ S. I r)()fi)-^Wlien this word 
wa^ found at the bottom of the title-pai^e of a 
Iwjok, it meant that the hook, being for the good 
of the public, or of the nation, was entitled to 
"drawback," or an allowance or return of the 
duty chargeahlo on books of a ditterent chamcter* 
William Blood, 


Mercurt Wateh (.5*** S. ii, 0.)^Mercury water 
is doubtleB.s water with quicksilver in it. The 
water does not destroy the corrosive properties of 
the merairy, the powerit of which are shown at 
the Cinnabar mine^, where wood is burnt up by it, 
hrick soon destroyed, and the iron pans and con- 
densers ref|uire constant renewal. 

H, A. St, J. M. 

*' Nu WHEX '■ (5^ S. it. 8.) — An expression in 
constant use in this part of Sussex even aruoa^ 
fairly educated people. I have always taken it to 
be a proviacialibui, Anif itiken aim is in constant 
"Be. Edmund Tew, M.A. 


March Ddst {5*>» S. i. 5t>5.)— **A peck of 
:M5irch dust 18 worth an earr* itinsoni," and "A 
bushel of Muivh dust is worth a kinjr's ransom/' 
may be ** common saying-^ enough '• iii Dorset^liirc : 
hat, BO Iwr as 1 am aware, they are uoveltiea in 

both Devon and Cornwall. Perhaps the 
niinfall in the two south- we3t-<vm counties 
hunced the value of the du«t, a» the *^ sayintf 
there takes the form of ** A pock of Mnn^h dust! 
worth a kind's ransom," Wm. P^nazLLY* 1 


"Pan** (5«» S. ii, a)— In a glossary of 
Norfolk Tvords, at page 51 of the lilosj^irlci* 
printed last year by the English Dialect Socletj 
is this article : — 

** Patif the flooring on which the cuUivAtod ioil hcf. 
Immediately under the cultivated soil^ a hard cr 
provinciRlly ' the pan,* occurs universally/' 

Possibly this may explain the term Paiifiel< 
but, in the explanation of local nameis it is har' 
ever possible to be certain except after 
search and the exerciBe of all one's critical i 
Walter W, 

1, Cintra Terrace, Gftmhridgc. 

Christy Collections {ti^ S. ii. 27.)-^ 
**I>ono dederunt Julii Cre^conii chirentissij 
True it is I can find no instance of the particip 
ID this sense; but Smith giv^ under *^ch 
the meaning *Ho be distinguished, iilustrious, 
nowned," Charles F. S. Warren, MJUJ 

*'Yanob Monday'' (5«» S. ii. 280—Prob«ih 
Gange Monday, u e,, the Monday before Ascensfid 
Da5% referring to the beating of the parish bounj 
In that week. Citarles h\ S. Warhkn, M.A. I 

Elleralie* Bexhill. HMttngs. 

" The Bonny House op Airlie** (S*** S. ii. 2^ 
—It is well known that J[ont ri>5e was a leader i 
the Covenanters, and su^yiected to liave on 
changed sides from jealousy of Argyll. See 
Clarendon, Book IV. Referring to Spalding 
TrauhUs of Sccdland, we find him, the *'! 
General ■' of the Covenanters, reviewing five Hu 
rlred Argyll Highlanders on their joining liis i 
at Aberdeen. And in the case of Airlie it app 
from Spalding, edit. 1830, page 179, that ^lontr 
himself had Baled in an attempt on Airly, 
that the estates in consequence entrusted 
attack to Arg}'ll : — 

** The Earl of Airly went from home i 
fearing the troubles of the land, and ibut li 
pressed to eubecribe the Covenant whether 1.. .. .,, 
not, whilk bj deeing the land he resolved to eschew oji^i 
m he could * . . * The E^ttates or tables h'^nnn? ^f hu ^ 
parturOj directed the Earls of Montr> 
to go to the place of Airly and to take 
for that effect to carry cartowa with t 
ciirta) . . . The asgftilaiita findii]|; the \nt^v uiiwil 
by tuituro of fcrcnt strength, without great fkulfl 
the place without niickle loss on either t.ide, t^ 
purted therefro' in Jime. 

" Xt)w the Committee of Eetate?, finding n* coulf 
mcnt in thif expedition, and hearing how i" {| 

of the name ol Forbei and others in the • 
daily injured and opprost by highland limniur^ rru*o, 
out of Lochab«ri Clai^rcgor, out cf Brae of Aik4 



Brme of Mar» and dUvene other phicci, therefore tbej 
gire atden to the Earl of Arg^fU to r»iae men out of hla 
own couDlry, and firat to go to Airly and Furtour, two 
of tl^e EaH of Airlj'd principal bouse i, atid to take in 
and destroy the samen, and neict to ^o upon tUir limnmra 
fttid punuih them ; like as conform lb hifl order he nii««i 
mn araiy of about five thotasand men, and marches to- 
vrmrdf Airly: hut the Lord Ogil-rie, hearinif of hi« coming 
with fluch irreiutible force, reaoWei to ilcti and leave the 
houie maoleis ; and so for their own safety they witely 
fled ; but ArjcyU, most crueliy and inhumanly, enters the 
houac of Alrly^ and b«ata the same to the ground, and 
riglii Bua he dues to Furtour, eyne spoiled all within both 
himt», and inch ms could not be curled they master- 
foUy bmke down and destroyed." 

W. G. 

" HiGR AND Low/' &c. {^^ a I 46B.)— Words- 
worth's Ecderiasticat SmiKcU. F. L. 

Eliza B£TH Oakninq (5"» S* ii. 27.)— Mr. 
Gbooilb wiU find a full report of all the proceed- 
ingB in rektion to thi» wretched girl in HowtdFs 
Sintf Triah, pp. 283-680 of roL xix. The dtite is 
1753-^4. It iM noteworthy that, althou^'h the 
Jt of the first triril (iu which CanninjT waa pro- 
ttijc) woA admitted to have been much in- 

p^ . 3 V- -' irjjiny m^fiiir representations printed 
atn I I ' (p. 274), no proceedings were taken 

for i-Ji^ of C'ourt." Middle Tkmplail 


TiNTERN Abbey (5*** S* ii. 28.) — I gave Mr. 
Block a phin (with .*everal others), which la pub- 
It^htKl in the la^t edition of the Guide to i^oidh 
II'«i/m (1874). There is no local Guide- Book. 
l^LkCKENZiE R C. Walcott. 

Blot " RiBBOK,^ OR Blue " Ridbaxd'^ (5*»» S. 
I i 606.) — In the curliest editions of Johnson*« 
\ iittium am/, this word is given thug : — ** Riband : 
"" Ruban, fr. (.sometimes written Ribon)," 

Ort^ by the following quotations : — 
■lint in green she shall be loose enrob'd 
fflth nbbandi pendent, fltring ^bout her head.'* 

** A ribband did the braided tresses bind. 
The rest was loose/* 

Dryden'g Knight's Tali. 

" S99 1 in the lists they wait the lrompet*i sound ; 
6ouie lore dcrice is wrought on cT'ry sword. 
And erVy ribband beai9 some mystic word/' 

WiLLLAM Blood, 

Tm " HricAiciEa'a Coithisntabt " (5*** S. i, ftOT.) 
-I* The omiasion of the word« "and 

[lets ritly a lapsus calami of the conunen- 

|lAUif« 1 iiv jiebrew numeral in question ^S€r«7i/y. 
\Mi» och^ reading or rendering i^* known. 

A. L. Mat HEW, 

^ptCntT House (u*^ S. iL 4S.)— An engraving of 
Bli|ier("« Hou^, Beech LaQe^ Barbican, is 

in Thi Antiquitm of London^ hy John TbomaK 
Snuth» 17!>i, There i» no letter-pre^s. but on the 
plate are these words, ** see P^nnant'fi London.'* 
Thifl reference may probably as^mt Mr. H, W. 
Kexi-'rev in obtaining the mrticulars he i» in 
search of. Charles Wylie. 

"Solidarity" {5*^ S. I 347, 492.)— There i« 
no mystery whftteyer about iolidarity^ and any of 
the usual books of reference would doubtless hare 
fumifthed Jahez with the refjuired intunnation. 
Solidum, in Latin, means tht whole jmrn; and in 
Ita,ly, when two persons sign a promissorj' note 
together, the common formula k pagh€rci7w injtkmc 
cd in solido^ each being thus answerablef in case of 
need, for the entire sum. The two parties are 
aoUdjirii^ or Aolidali, that i*, UnvH per tiilta la 
$omnva> Hence soUdaAeta in Italian, while the 
French forms are mlidaiTc, iolidaritiL 

All the other uses of the word are metaphorical^ 
but easily refenible to the ground -iden, soluhr%t<' 
des ptnpleji, den itUMU^ de^ t^le^ couromUes^ &c. 

H. K. 

Archbishop Trench is rij^bt in connecting this 
word with the French Communbts— that is tbeir 
motto, and one, indeed, which no one could be 
ludiiuned of ; but, as D. M. thinks, they have not 
coined it, ril though it is not of much older dtite 
than the French Revolution, The French word 
mlidarite appears for the tirst time in the famous 
speech in which Cuxotte is said to have foretold 
the fall of the monarchy and the decapitation of 
Louis XVL Henri Gausseron. 

Ayr Academy. 

** Be QuiNCET : Gocoe'a Fate^* (4*^ S. x. 331. 
418; 5"» S.i. 117; iL m)--The Dog of Echdhjn. 
A dog would find it dLtHcult, if not imposs^ible, to 
hold ita own .igainst the attacks of hungrj' mvens. 
One of Landseer's drawings represents a fox unable 
to keep the IB from a dead red deer, 

Scott, Wordsworth, and Davy visited Helvellyn 
together soon after the discovery of Gough's re* 
niiiins. Scott was shrewd, and possessed too muoh 
knowledge of the craft so often found with the 
"clouted shoon'* to be imposed upon by g^uides' 
tales. Wordsworth resided in the Lake country 
at the tiuie, and must have known the facta of the 
matter and the belief of the inhabitants. He was, 
like Scott, too honounible a man to have mis-state*l 
them, and Ids verses are evidence of his being well 
acquainted with some of the details of the episode. 
Bishop Watson, in the letter to Hay ley (ouoteil by 
Mr. Oakley), terms Gough^s companion, *faitlt/fil 
dog/' Professor Wilaon said the same,* From 

• *• Christopher Xorth " could estn * v ;; at his 
true worth. StG '" Chri«topher in hi lackeL" 

** If erer^ in thij cold, chanceful* i IK I il, there 

was a fricmlihip that might be C&IU4 «u^c.^i:ttt V^ "^vrt^ 
ihat which, haif a ceiit\^T| a^o ittk^ ^^-wax^^ avCoivAft^. 



[5^ S, 11. JtTLY 25. • 

Wordsworth's lines it h evident that the creature 
made aa iin usual cry to attract the sliepherd's 
attention^ und then led him to the reJice of her 
mivster. There is gr>od evidence of her remaining 
upon the mountain for more than three months, 
not two, as Bishop Wat&on a tinted. 

Oarefal inquiries have been made in Patterdale 
and elflewhere, and information received from u 
tmafcworfchy sowcce — an elderly, intelligent, and 
respectable peroon, of good position, who spoke 
from old personal recollectionit, having resided in 
the vale and been about tifteen years of age when 
Gough lost his life. 

Even if the (^lant and devoted animal which 
remained true to the spot, ho useless and alone, 
exposed to the rigour of winter, and ** biding the 
pelting of the «tonn" for so many long 
days and long nights, had been driven by the 
excruciating pangs of famine to touch the remains 
of one she loved so weU, it would btrdly impair her 
fidelity. Nature might succumb and reason fail 
under such a trial. Civilized man eat« his fellow- 
man when forced by hunger. Let the loyal Fida 
of Helvellya rank with the life-saver Barri of 
St. Bernard, and her epit-aph be, " Fidelis ad 
Umam." George R. Jksse, 

"Pttt to buck'' (5t»» S. i. 228, 29.X)^Th« «^- 
pr^Bsion, implying to be delayed or hindered^ haa 
been remarked upon by two correspondenU who 
have gone a long way back for a very imMttafiictory 
solution. One ^^ thinks ** it in to be mode to tweaiy 
the other has *' no doubf that it means to huddc 
(as to put on armour). The origin of the expression 
lies upon the surface, and is not far to seek : it is 
simply a corruption of put n-bach rapidly uttered 
with a provincial prononciatioiL I have frequently 
heard a person exclaim, after being delayed by 
some unexpected difficulty or hindrance, ** I never 
was so put a-back in my llfe.'^ E, V. 

GirsY Burials (5«» S. i. 129, 212, 058.)— Two 
gipsy ladies are buried in one gnive in Beighton 
churchymrd, Derbyshire. Tlie following is a copy 
of the inseriptions upon the stone erected to their 
memory : — 

'' Happy tcmlj thy days are ended, 

ML thy mmiraifi^ dikyn below ; 

Go, by Migel iruarda attended^ 

To the ftight of Joaui, go.'* 

''Sacred *^Al«o 

to tho memory To the memory 

of of 

Matilda Doflwcll, Lucretia Smith, 

tvho died Jan. 15, 1844^ Queen of the 

Aged 40 years," Oypifies, 

who died Not. 20. 18U, 
Aged 72 yeara." 

It would be inteTesting to ascertain the exact 

b«twe«n Christopher North and John Fro. We never 
had a quarrel in all our lives, and within these two 
monthB we made a pilgiimagc to hie graTc. * 

relationship between the«© two gip«y ladles. I eop- 
pose them to have been mother and daughter* 

Taoat^vs Ratcli ffe. 

Wrt Adam meaxs North, South, East, axd 
West (5^ S, L 305, 433,)— The extnvct from 
Hyam Isa^ic/s Cercuumi^ of the Jtvcft^ given hj\ 
Mji. Gomme, to the etfect tlikt the name Adam lsI 
composed of the initial letters of ^dam, Il!ividy| 
and Jlfesaiah, seems to me to be open to the oh^\ 
jection that the word Aiidni moat have exited I 
before its lirsfc letter could be taken for the for- 1 
mation of itself, W. W. 

CARFATUlAJf MouKTAtSfs (5*** S. i. 328, 375,} — 
For the botany of tho Carpathian Mountains, J 
H. J. B. is referred to Dr. Wahlenbergs F?<>rft j 
Oarpatormri Principalium; and, for a genenill 
description of the region traverBcd by them, 1«>I 
Kennan's Jourti^ey acroag the Carj>nthian Aftwm-j 
tai?w, Gaston de Berneval, 

QtTorrs (5^^ S, i. 428.)— The book wanted » 
Routledge's Handbook of Quoits and Bowh, by 
Sidney DaryL 18mo. Load., I86a See ab(» 
Strut t's Sports and Fa9tint*9f edited by Hone. 
8vo. London, 1831 and 1855, p. 76 ; TfiA PhiMf^ 
ffround, by Rev. J. G, Wood. 12mo. Londouyj 
1861, p. 167 ; and Wondtra of Bodily Strmffik] 
and Skill, by Charlea RusaelL 12mo. N. Y.^j 
1871, pp, 47-54. Gaston ob Bee^sval. 


SniRLKY Family (5^ S. L 248, 2^ 477.)— 
In Burke*s Peerage for the current year, as well 
as in previous editions, Sir Hobert Shirley, first J 
Earl Ferrers by his second wife, Selina Finch, left, 
inter olio, three daughters — Selina, wife of Peteri 
Bathurst ; Mary, wife of Charles Tryon, Eaq.s 
Anne, married to Sir Richard Ftimese, Baronet 
In Burke's Extirict Baronetage, p. 211^ artic 
'' Furnese of Waldeishan^ co. Kent,'^ there appears] 
no l^ii Richard Furneae at all, but a Sir Robert] 
Fumeae, married (lat) Anne Balam, (2nd) Lad^ 
Arabella Watson, (3rd) Lady Selina Shirley, 
wish to learn which is correct. Should the 
Baronet's name be Richard or Robert^ and should 
the lady he married be SciiTia or Anne f 


"Tms Night Crow": Bitterw (5*^ S. L Si 
114, 293,457, 613.)— MR. Jessb quotes from t 
poets (p. 293)— whose names he omits — ^ooi 
ing the Bittern, and asks for other qnotalioilil 
perceive that in each of tho three that h** orivfin tbi 
word ** boom " is applied to the peculiar 
burd ; and the same word is used in the i 
lowing quotations from three poeta who wer9| 
decidedly original, and not copyists from 
other : — 

" And the Biitom soand his dram 
Boomioff from the ied^v eh allow,'* 

Soott, Lady of ih€ Lakt, Cwito t, ZV 




— This gives the ex]jlim(vtion of the local term, 
the '* Mire Druni.'^ 
" Or ndl; listen to the luneleu cry 
Of fiihiDg jguU or clftiifEiag iroIdeD-eje ; 
Wh«( Uttie the sea-bu-dB ta tbe umreh would com«, 
And th« bud bitkm, from his bull-niBh home, 
G%Y% from tbe s^lt-ditch side, hta beHowitkg boom.'^ 
Cmbb«, Thi Borough, 22. 
'^ Ko more with her will bear tbe Bittern boom 
At eTeoiDg's dewj clo«e/' 

£ben«zer Elliott. 

Howitt uaei the word "boom" as jipplied to 
** the soariiig cockchafer." CuTnuisRT Bede. 




h V 



Je98z uaks for the derivation* In Eichard- 

ruMTffSuh voce, Datch BuU>m- is given^ 

'f/f, J5<w taunts^ or J?aa(ii^ f(tur«iiuj« 

X. -12, quoted to the eftect that it is called 

ib^cxLUse it lows like a buIJ. TkU reference 

^" ' ^ • y*H Forcellini givea PlinVj L 1 (\ 42. 

p8et3 the derivation, because the 

ciiiien ianrn4t^ And not Boatus Uturinus. 

I imkc it to mean simply *m= bird, bin that heati, 

hmdcm or humping kern. In Northumberland it 

il failed the butUHmmpj m Lancashire the hitttr- 

Sow a few jMUsa^es in which it occurs : — 
^ Whmrt li»wki» sea owb, and long-tongued bittours bred.'^ 

Cba|»nan'fl Odj/t. v. 
The bittern knows hii timo» with bill Ingulpht^ 
To ihake the lounding manh.'^ 

" Atid M m ^iitcmr^ humbldA in tbe mire." 

Wif tif Batiii* TaU, t, 0544, Chancer. 
'* And m » btttottr bumpe within a reed*" 


a A. w. 


I filioidd jmn^ine thut Bitterti wa.s the EnjrliHh 
fbfiD of the scientific name of the bird, Botauruei, 
!«., Bootaorus, given to it from \\» hollow boom- 
iflg DOt^f which rei^embles the bellowing of an ox. 
**"" rits provincial appellation of **Eull of the 
Oharlrb Swai?»sox. 
It Wood. 

^CoL- IV r*>T-Fox{5*^S. i. 141, 2n» 371, 417, 
4aew)— '' ' 'f the birth of '' a colly foal "" wsjj 

tolil tec V a Yorkshireman, and I thought 

Imt meant a oAi foal uotU further inquiry showed 

bnc that the new-comer was of tli£ feminine gander. 
Wh«ii 1 thereupon asked for the si^idoHtion of 
^ ooUj," it wa«» explaiiied to me that it meant *'an 
udhliti, ^ and my informant promised to 

teok fcii In hiii dirtiun.ary. He remarked 

lint f>eopic u: i!vi coUit for a foa), ju&t w& they used 

I 6wMif Ibr » rabbit. 
P€ff)bap» co/ meivns v " ' " ,< i^ 

irJ»&Qnroi» mihI his t ric 

aiMitrn tiTy. If <w>, coJ-Mnvr^ m** t^iuim or pocket 
ladfcs ; A col- fox i^ a youjij^, a little fox ; a coUic 

iB, aa Mh. Blk>kin&ofp says, a whelp ; and mj 
colly foul is on equine baby. The snmamo Col- 
cluugh has been of late in the papers ; this, ae-* i 
eordinj* to my interpretation^ is liiUe glen, ravine^ , 
or whatever elae chugh may be said to signify. 
The place ColcJough is in Stafford shire» " in which 
county/' writes Lower, ** the family reiiided temp. 

Edw. HL" fcsT. SWITRIK. 

pRiKCKS OF THE Blood Royal (5**» S. t. 467, 
ni6 ; ii. 37.)— MiDDLK Templar wiU find that th^ 
Duke of Cambridge takes precedenco by ** special 
Act": vUe " N. & Q.,'» 4^ S. x. 453, in an ampla ' 
article by Mr. Wickham. 

O. LAtJitsKce OomtE, 

B, Catbbrixk of SiENSTA (5«» 8. i. 3ft7» 4133 ; 
ii, 17.)— The following is a vety interesting work 
on the life and times of S. Catherine : — Storia di 
S. Cat<rina <fo SiennO' t del Fopato d$l 9UQ Tempo^ 
per Alfonso Capelcelatro, Napwi, 1856, 2 voli. 

W. M. M, 

Pastoriki (b^ S. i. 408 ; IL 13.)— Fleming did 
71 of '* foretell the downfall of the Papacy in 184rt,* 
His woni.i are, " But yet we are not to imagine 
that this vial will totaUv destroy the papacy, 
though it will exceed Lngly weaken it." K»«f^ 
reprint of Eise and FcSl of Borne Papain by 
Robert Fleming, ed, 1848, p. 62, 

C. CaATTocK, F.R.H.S. 

Castle Brotnwich. 

Comet Tistule Ai^ril 30, 1530 (5"» S. i. 369, 
435.)— The statement of the Portuguese historian, 
Don Jean Antonio dc Veia et Figueroa, as to a 
solar eclipse, as well as a comet, having been 
visible on the day on which Isabel died, 1st May, 
153!>, is, therefore, most satisfiictorily substantiated ; 
and I beg Mr. T. W. Webb wiil accept my best* 
thanks for his great kindness in tbe matter, K 

Rev. STKFHiLjr Clarkk (5** S. L 206, 265, 298, 
438.) — I beg to thank your correapondente for the 
information given respecting the above divine. 
The typographical portion of my que^ haii not, 
however, received any elucidation. My copy of 
the work ia nearly identical with that of J. U. B«» 
with the foUowir- - - -><^; - ♦>- title has **six- 
teen '* discoursr a are enume- 

rated, the sixteti. -. . . ,, .. 1- ~ Advantages of 
Casting our Bread upon the Waters.'^ The title- 
page ends thus : '^^ Second Edition, Malton^ 
Printed by Joshua Nick^on ^* fn. d.). The number 
of pn;[:r-^ i.^ Lnvpn Lis ^^51, bnt sheet Dd is erroneously 
] ition of sheet Cc, thus 

-- < to the volume. 

2^Uy 1 ery about the Malton 

printer, an^. ho above volume? 




NOTES AND QUERIES. p**8.n.JutT2$,7i. 

PECttLiAR SpkIi^^HHK. i. 405, 4bZ.)-Ridde 
far ready post tenser, mByron. In the Malmt^bury 
Qfrrttpondtnre the following passage from a letter 
i« quoted :— " The letters ... * were reddr in both 
Houses of Pftrliatiient." Upon which the editor, 
the present Lord Malmeabmy, remarkfl i — 

" Jiedde t« tiled in the originjil of all letters of tbif 
dute, and so the word was sptlt in the days of ShaJce«p«re 
and duriDg movt part of the last century. Why not 
spetl the paat tenae as it ia pronounced rtddt, and the 
preNnt aa it U now written read t This would at leaet 
define the two." 

Is it not aa prolmble th-ut Byron was more 
familiar with the fonii redd^^ m that he iwiopted 
this from iiiero whim ? Is it not u positive Iobs, 
too, that the distinction in writing the past and 
the present of this verb ahoidd be misaed I Spen- 
ser Has red for the post tense. Inquirer, 

" Pektecost" as a Najie (4t*» S, i. 568 ; h^ S, 
i. 402, 472.)— In the Phiknthropic Farm School, 
Redhiil, is at thiB time a boy of the nume of Al- 
bert Ponteco8t. He was bom at Danehill^ Sussex, 
Dec. 15, im2y and baptized there Feb. 1863. 
The Vicar of Dane hill writes :-;- 

" The name • Pentecost' ia a famiUar one in thii plae« 
and in tbese parts. Four miles from this village), ott a 
place called 'Flaw Hatch/ livea at this time old Jack 
Fenteoo«t (S3) ; and John Pentecost^ aged 76, was buried 
here four years ago. They belou^ to the labouring 
clafi. The sons of old Jack Peotecoet are resident in 
the iitxt pariahesj Twryford, ilartfield, and Maresfield." 

G. L. Cr. 

Tit»ey Place, Surrey, 

A Jew's Will (5«^ S. I 449, 4m ; ii. 38.)— The 
Magpie Alley and Fenchurch Street Synagogne 
is probably the Hambro BA-nagogue, Norihum&r- 
land Alley. Mr. Jacob Solomon, of 27, Great 
Prescott Street, E., Secretarj-^ thereof, can probitbly 
give all information about it^ sind of the Isaac 
family. Partly in forced xniitat ion of the mediaeval 
Catholics, each male Jew ref>eats a doxology, 
Kaddish, for the first eleven months after his 
parent'ii death, and on the annivers:try of the same ; 
also olfera public aims on Pui^sover, Pentecost, 
Tabernacles, and Bay of Atonement (vide Jewish 
Festival Prayers, "The Memoriul of Departeil 
Soids ''). The Jntish ilironidf Offiee, 43, Fins- 
bury Square, London, has publisJied this year an 
interesting history of the London Jews ; and 
probably the erudite author of the same will give 
H. T. E. a genealogy of the L*aacs fumily j one, 
Alexander Isaac, was grandfather of Sir" Julius 
Vojjel, of New Zeahind. S. M, D. 

SwAXE Fajiily (5**» S, i. 1B8, 253, 297, 476.)— 
There is no doubt that Sir Solomon Swale had 
a fourth son, Robert Swale, ]VLD,, Pivdua, aud a 
licenthite of the London College of Physicians, 
My aeorch for an heir to this baronetcy is now 
suspended owing to other occupations, fhe points 


on which I should be obliged if any of your cor- 
respondents could give mc information are, the 
parentage, marriage, and issue of a John SwaJc 
(grandson of Rol>ert Swale, M.D.), who was born 
in 17tX>, and lived at Windsor, holding some post 
connected with the royal household. 

John H. CnAPMAK, M.A. 
Crosthwoite Park, Kingstown. 

Floooiso in Schools (6**» S. I 2S4, 415.)— 
A, E. is "greatly miatakem*^ Nothing of the 
kind was ever used by his " ingenious Amencaii 
cousins " ; and if he has " read of slaves being nent 
to the flogging mills," in the whilom slave-holding 
States, he has only missed discovering the " in- 
vention^' io the story, G. L. H. 

Greenville, Ala. 

The Swift Familt (6^ S. L 485 ; ii. 33.)— I 
hope Mr. Swifte will pardon me if I take the 
liberty of inverting bis statement that, for the 
hereditary royalisui of the Rev. Thomas Swift in 
presenting to Clnirles I. the purchase- monej of hin 
estate, " he was rewarded by the Roundheads with 
misusage and spoliation," the fact being, with stiU 
greater credit to his unwavering loyalty, that the 
first barbarous plundering of his home by the Earl 
of Stamford's soldiers, then occupying Hereford, 
took place in 1642, and bis nuinificent donation 
was offered to the King at Raglan Castle, after the 
battle of Naseby in 1645. Heath says it was the 
produce of a mortgage, and 300, not 3,tKK), broad 
piecea ; and this seems more probable, us they 
were carried quilted into His waistcoat. Nor, un- 
less he crossed the Channel, which is not vciy 
likely, could he have been rewarded by Charles IL 
" with verbal thanks," as his decease took place I 
June 2, 1658. How cruelly his defenceless famtly | 
were treated by the Parliamentaty ^v^ill 

appear in my late fathers (the Rev. td>) 

Memoirs of th^ Civil War in tJu Coiumj t>j licr^ 
/onf, whicJh I am now preparing for the presft. 
One of the cnftrops with which this noblt^-heartetl 
man is said to luvve aiiised the ford nt Goodrich 
to l>o secured against cavalry is now in my pos- 
^. I ^n. T. W. Wfinn. 

Simpson & Co. (5«» S. i. 49, 114, 197, 33a>— i 
Adam's Son forgeta that W. T. RL has said not a ' 
word which implies that he is not well aware thjit 
all old families bore arms before the Heraldn' 
College was ; and lie conceals the fact that it is 
just these old families whose arms are mo*t 
certainly recorded there. Very few of the families 
whose arms are on alttu? tombs and corl>eIs ha^t* 
managed to escape the notice of the betnlds. He 
writes tij. */ho did not know the nde in her.ddiy, 
tlmt ii coat of arms is a property voMtod in the 
IdtXMl iie*icendant^ of the ori^dnal owner. Hence, 
whoever has a right to use my family arms ia mr i 
blood relation. He would not object to a don 



H »|AtUS IS 


iTeiigvF pbciiig the Adam*8 Sok aniis on his 
dtist-cart ; aor should I, or a poor scavenger 
cither, if the man was a blood relation ; neither, 
I suppose, would any one who is above the mejin- 
naea of difiowniiig a relative because his social 
»|Atus is inferior* But if the saivenger wim no 
relation, and was the honest man Burns speaks of^ 
scorn the falsehood of sneniking Into arm^ 
no right to, merely to puff himself oa being 
bom than he wtia. He is rich enough to buy 
a new coat at the College, but he knows it would 
not be as *' genteel '' as the Adah's Son old one^ 
and would not help hira up in society as well, so 
be paaaes off a fraud upon society nnd claims what 
10 not his. P, P. 

I once used to be of the same opinion as One 
OF Ai>Ait*8 Dbscenda^^tb, hut hiive long since 
bee" .i"*i^>^*^ived. Although anna similar to those 
of are to be found at Sawley, Bolton, 

„. .ail of a very early date, it does not 
Dw tiuit he has any right to them. They 
have been assumed by some progenitor 
ignorant of the necessity of genealogical proof 
positive of descent &om the original bearer. It is 
ft cue of ipse dmt, until such proofa are submitted 
to the responsible public authorities on such ques- 
tions. Mere usa^ and the presumption of a 
right, derived, say, from the postewbn of an 
ancient estate, are not sufficient ; for there ui-e 
many instsnoes, especially in Scotland, of strange ra 
of the mme name carrying on the succession of 
oatftm labdB without any blood relationship^ and, 
oonseqnently, without any right to the pen^onal 
aims of their predecessors. The assumption of 
nna without the perfect geneidogical proof ia 
decidedly illegal, as regards the Heralds' College, 
and tliia illegality is not affected by the Armonal 
TiKK Act, which refers to arms *^ regiiitered or not/- 
tlie object being mei^ly to prevent evasions. But 
tbe Act does not imply that the payment of the 
tax condones any henddic offence. It is simply, 
ill it» object, liscjiL 

LiAtly, DO one has a right to bear arms without 
tike approval of the heraldic authoritiea constituted 
hf Act of Parliament. He may, however, have a 
dormani right, but, until he proves it, it must be 
oanddend an open question. S. 

**0R!7lD* (5** S. i, 308, 435.)— It is obvious 
llkfti both Collins and Lord Byron use the word 
" Dnitd " as a synonym of Bard ; but can this be 
figjlit I I cannot think thjvt the functions of bard 
nsMl Htuld were the same. In the lustoTy of every 
liilloa, tbe most important events, national or 
ptfiOiiAl, w^ere first chronicled in verae, and were 
imog 9X ncred festivals, or as soogs of victory ; 
b«jt t&cAC, though uttered by the Druids in their 
prUiUj cjiancter, seem not to have been the work 
m llie piicit, but of the bard. The I>ruid pro- 
tkJan^ ibe cotamand« of the God that he adored. 

Ho might explore the heavens, and draw know* 
ledge from the courses oT the starss ; he might 
impart a mysterious significance to omens, and 
predict events from symbolical .signs ; but he was 
not the bard, — certainly not the bard of Celtic 
Htemture. Omy bore in mind the distinctionj 
and^ during the time that our language has been 
carefully studied, there has not been a dictionary 
published in which " Braid " is made synonymous 
with bard. 

There may be found in the lays of Viliemarqiie 
some good information as to the ** Druid.*' The works 
of Da vice, Higgins^Cj ate well known ; and, in 
the To/tmn of D, W. Nash, F.S.A,, chap. I, it is 
stated, on hi^'h authority, that in Druidism the bards 
were a distinct class, from which the Druidfi» as 
priests and judges, were chosen. S. H. 

The" JAconus" (5"» S. i. 506 ; ii. 35.)^ Infor- 
mation concerning this may be found in the Record 
Office. Jonham ben Douiat» King of Acheen and 
other parts of Sumatra, in a letter to Jauies in 
1616, asked for ** ten mastiff dogF, & ten bitches, 
with a great gjun wherein a man iiuiy sit upright,'^ 
It was also said of him, — 

*' A cnek of hot drink were a fit present for hiin^ for 
lie delights greatlj id drinking and to make men drunk: 
the King of Jore which is now there, aliboagh he bo 
his prisoner, do often drink drunk together." 

Memoirs of thiB King Cole of the £a«t might 
be interesting. George B. Jbsbe, 

Tre Shaksfearb D&atb Uasu., 

Iir Serihner's M<mtAlif (m New York periodicaj* pub- 
liihed also in London by Wame k Co.) there is^ In the 
current number, an article^ with the abore title, by Prof. 
John 8. Hart, tome account of which wiU interett Shmk- 
fpe&riant. Brieflj, the chief poiata put forth are these. 
A caet of the f&co and forehead of Shakipeare exiatt in 
Oermtnj which was tinken by the sculptor of the biut 
oTcr the poet't graTe aa hie guide in thmt well-known 
productioD. 31 r. P&ge, of New York, ha< been lately 
occupied on a likeaew of Shakapeare, whkh ie baaed 
on photograpbfl of " the German Mask/' The UkenoN 
thill produced doee not resemble any other porttwit of 
the poet, but it ii **mucb more BUggeetiTC of what we 
might conceire to have been ha earthly dwcUing-placc." 
Prof, Hart, on & riait to Europe, went in teaivh of 
thii mask, of which the world hat heard not a little 
from other tourcet. It wae foond in the poaieitiqo of 
Dr, Eroeet Becker, Prirate Secretary to the Frinceia 
AUce of Hesee IHrmetadt. It wai ongmally diecorered 
in Maycnce by hii brother LudwJg, in 1849, who ex- 
hibited it to TanoQt person! in England in IS&Opand who 
left it in the keeping of Prof. Owen for ten yearf. At the 
end of this time, Ludwig Becker having died ia Aui- 
tnUi&j the cast was eent to hii brother ErneiL 

The abore are the introdactoty pointa. The aeit 
poinU, condemed, like the abore, from Prof. Ilart'M 
narratiTet are aa foUowa 

At the Bale of the deceeeed Count von Kenelifcadt't 
effecti at Mayence in 1649, one 8. Joiirdan bought au 

oil pftinttng. It ropresetitM a man Ijing on « bod, witli 
a wreuth round hiB bctd, and the date ** A.D. I'Ja? ^' 
nbore his left aidu. This was irmlitioTi&Ily mid to be a 
portrait of Sbakepcare, who died io 10U*. Ludwig 
Beeker bought thii reputed portrait from Jotinlan in 
1647. Subfl«queiitly he di^cotered the Death Mask in a 
r«g shop in M&veace, and bought it aa the cast from 
which the KeiaelttiMit reputed Shokipeare was probnbly 
pftinted. Woodcut of portrait and cost are giren. The 
portrait i« unlike any existing portrait of SLftk.«peare, 
and, as far &■ our judgment goee, the mask is not in the 
leant like the portrait. Prof Hart thinks otherwiee. 
Within the Ciist is inscribed the date, ]616; and there 
are ikomo human hairs of the colour of thoao of Shak- 

The hTpothesis act forth a that thia cast, used by 
Gerard Johnaon when executing the bust of ShiikBpeare, 
now at Stmtfordt got somehow into Germany, and that 
the Keiselsiadt portrait waa painted from it. Not only 
ia there no reseniWn v- '» i^ unknown cast and 

this umdeiitified K . but the Professor 

diatinctly aays tbut • : "!, in one respect or 

another, from every rccoguiicd likcDeaa of Shakspcare *" ; 
and yet it is asserted that the maik waa copied ty Gemrd 
JohoiOD, the gcalptor of the iStratford bust. Prof, Hart 
finda various reasons to account for the difference« be- 
tween the nmak and the bust, tbe conaidonition of which 
may be left to readers generally, " Fanny Kemble on 
aeemg if (the mask) " burat into tears." Prof. Hart 
then fMiPinta out where he finda reeemblances between the 
maak found in the rag-ahop at Mayence aud aculptur<!s 
and paintinga eaid io be likeneaacs of Sliakspeare. He 
aajt of the terracotta bust, now at the (Jarriok Club, 
originally found in the ruins of the old Ltncoln'ii Inn 
Field'a Theatre, or rather in cleariug away the premises 
(on that site) of Meaars. 8pode k Co pel and, dealers in 
ceimnic ware» that ■* of all recognized likene^eeA of Shak- 
epeare, there b none that, in my opinion, cornea ao near 
to the general character of the Death Maak/* Prof 
Hart finda pointa of reBirmhlanre between the aamemaek 
&nd the Droeehout engraving in the old folio i to moat 
eyes no rcaemhtonco will be apparent. 

The chief points of the Prufeaaor'a earnest article in 
Sfribner'g Monthlf/ have now been stated. Comment ii not 
IMeeaaary. Full credit will be given to Prof. Umri on the 
score of cajidour, ilncerity, and (it may b« added) ingenuity. 
'* K. k Q/' concludee by making note c^ the fact that the 
world haa, or ia to have, a now portrait of Shakapeare, 
founded on the reputed Keaaelatadt portrait, bearing 
date 16ii7» and a Death Ma«k, of which nothing what- 
ever IE known except that it ia said to have been found 
in 1847 in a Mayence ra^-ahop. We tAj, with Lord 
Brougham, *' Non liquet." 

Ukdee the title of Tl^e Great Convenerft ^fcflsra. 
Triibner k Co. have pubUr«hed a capital goaslping book 
by Dr. Alathewa^ of the University of Chicnjro. It is a 
collection of anecdotal articlca, of which tltoae illua- 
trating American matters are the most novel and in- 
tercBting. Here la one aample : — " Some yeara ngo. a 
clergyman near Boaton aaked another, who waa noted for 
his prolixity, to nreach for him. * I cannot,' was the 
replji *for I am buav writing a aermon on the Golden 
Calf/—' That 'a Jufft the thing/ waa the rejoinder; * come 
und give ua a fore qnarter of it/" 

Msoaitfl. LoiroMAHs k Co. have iiaued a noteworthy 
little Tolume, by the Rev. Bourchler Wrey i^aviie, culled 
Ap^ariUoM: a Narralxvtof FaeU. The value of thia 
boox liea in the fact that the author ia above all sua- 
picion^ and the conclugion to which moat of tta readera 
will come is that there are more things in hearen and 
earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy. 

The same firm haa isfued a remarkably attraetive 
book, by Miss R. H. Busk, namely, Th( VaUt^m o^i 
Tirol : their Traditioni and Cattona. Thie volume la 
nicely illustrated, and in every respect is well frat trp 
Uood' ta^te and good sense mark evenr pogie . 
moreover, there ie something to iiitereaieveryt 
the scholar, now the sfiunterer, now those wL. ...<_.. .. 
guide, and bide-at-homo travellers, who only need an 
an^uHnjc ^"^l in*tntrttrf* If-^nk, The Tyroles© are ecthu* 
s f native local beauty, and I 

V ":'(, volume that in Tyrol j 

ti,,,; „,_„ — :., -, ^ ,--..- iL^ ownviUley* 

Thi Swiss !\frTiTTTrTA^ BnTATrrc 8oci£TT meet on 
Wednesday, i ! ^Ivtcs, between Mar- | 

ttgny and ^ ^nd), TouriMtt and I 

atrangera uic junw^^. ....,«x...utx..icatioas are soUoitedJ 
from visitors, 

KcMis writes:—" Where can the following work b«| 
conauUcd I — Jtutttutwnts Clericorum tn. Comituiu WU^I 
tomer, ab ann. 1297, nd ann. 1810, 2 vols, folio, ld^| 
Privately printed by Sir Thomas PhiIliJ^ps, Bart/* 

The Rev. Mackenzie W.u.miT ban ^iveu blf MSI \ 
collections for a complete Welsh Mouaaticon, with plii 
to the British Museum. 

Nkw Histobt of Proteftaitttsm.— We nnilcrstiad 
that Messrs. Cassell, Fetter k Galpin « tetm- 

plati^vn to iaaue shortly a work dealing ■ vtlf 

with the History of the Keformed ChurcL^^, ^ <m^ wots ^ 
will be entitled Thi Butoiy of Protatanlun^ 



PftrtlculnrR of Priee, Ac, of cTfTv l-nok to b© atnt dtnMt 
tltc petvoti bf vrhofli it it reiiuircd, w[jo*e Etame sad *ddiiaB I 
(TiTcu for thst purpoie :— ^ 

L*Pt Maut Wo»Tt»T MojrtAftc'B Lrrrut. AnnaftaleS 1 

Wanted hf A«r. J. /r«rf*,S9. IvUik WllliBD 8C£««t,B.a^ 

fotfrrf to CcrreitfitonirnTti* 

AiKSTUBfi.—See, in Lord Chesterfield'a poems, hU A 
drem to a Lady in, Aviumn ;— 

'* The deiva of the even in » most carefully sban; 
Those tears of the sky for the loss of the sun,** 

R. R.^-Thcre is no doubt as to the writer of 
account of Captain Starkey in the K-c^ff'Buy B^^\ 
namely, Charles Lamb. 

G. L. G. deal res ta thank an anonymous ooi 
at Norwich for his interesting communication i 

P.— No one could aniMfer the queries except the iioUi 
men and their agents. 

J. B.— The word bus been ooounon in SootlAnd fo| 

R. S. B.— Too Uto for this week. 

S. J. — A libel upon Darug. 


Editorial Commtinlcattona should be addreaaed to •* 
Kditor*'— Advertiaements and Bu^inesa Lettera to "IW 
Publisher "—at the Office, 20. Wellington £>treet^ iS<mid, 
London, W.C. 

We beg leave to state that we decline to return com* 
municationa which, for any reason, we do not print \ and 
to thia rule we can make no exception. 

To all com municationa ahould be affixed the name 
address of the sender, not necessarily for pub(t«atioii| 
M m gmmntee of good faitU, 



m^PHQlf, SA TURnA r» A UGITST 1. IK 4 



K0nBI:—11w Aid of At) no :ti fidiraird L, 81— The Ataeiit^ftn 
gUtM-'W J. R.. si -8ir Robert Wilion's Xot«-B<ioka, 1827 
'^ Potk-t/'"^ -' ^' r Botueflof Sinvt&ndSuihetl&nd— Dr 
. Borring—m Dee's CrysUl—Pfrrttllei 
1 of Cromwell — J uniiin aod "*The 


Q!7«RI©:— <3<wi»tTlo— Wy*tt. or Wyit, Browne, Tufnell, 87 

dar Dtufechtfjj. ■'^■\ •■ " --■ ' |f:^ .-.-of 

til* (ktlenkl ^ ' — ■■■-^1 -!'•■ -- M ■ r' -Ss- 

»>>,n_n... ^.■,. ■,.: -:-t,- -''. M '^ ..:::iu^:r: 

Ar riUiic — Histuin!.!!,.-, Kin:: :, isB — 

M: ■^— Sir Johu VVhithr- .«» ^ 

Tt^.., — ♦ -i(^ in*rk— Poeio t^ X. JsL li^..-.. Jitima** 

BCnilBS :— FeeaUsr TrntnK^cit nf some Wordi in Futin^ 
Hon oo* LmiiraaSQtO snot • EqneatrlAo filsliie 

ta LtlOfiitef Squ«re^ 91—1 le'a H&ml-'LtuiAf 

BbMmw— ** M*rf eiy Mur < ' ii»rIoi 1, a? a Pool 

—Tha BvU Ey«— Dr \r V^Ush^a and 8lr H. Halfofd— 
Aftto«vl«t«<l PUoe-N^iiioes. Ui — MUion'a *' U Allegro " — 
Afdbor K-niilv^WitAT mirks— "LttUa Monitor," ic,» »1^ 
"And *. -"Thu SiiMj^o"— "Lo ProcOj," &«.— 

Tll« lln^ 'i —The BabstitutSon of I tUfl re for r— 

.i , , .jnlil Tit!e-i of HoBoar**— Tho BloMod 

' 4 V4Uo«iUna«i«ii Nan/' 9S^Th4 Bii^ " Tomplo"— 
Yoifk to HoATvo " — Lofd GoUlugwood — Shirley 
_>— 44»4rtn ( t.ii»irtnkf^ nr i :utidi_Tiiiteini Abbey— Tb0 
nperor Ale^ ' e 8«ltelmore nod " Old 

Mnftellly" Pi C.*jmtnjM-»-'*Iike" *i » 

CbiiJtoAcsir>T3 ", /., rjuiei prevalent Lu ITliter— 

*^e*'-f I ^ ^ . tsirtl— *'lWi«r''— Tivtrn I]ii«rl|>- 

nolai Ofi Book^ 4«r 


It 'T****-- ri.ti tniie n ill if uny writer on Kent hits, 

use of the Aid of 

for the mtiJcia^ of 

ioi Caroarvon u knight), or, at least, cited 

jfeired to it a* nuh. The Aid of anno 2i* 

Itl tie vied at the knighting of the Bldck 

ifl brought forwiud in coiinexion with the 

iitv of the manors bjr Philipot, Horria, and 

i m iucoession, and jet this equally im- 

it record— one, tix*, d.itlng forty ye»rB eadier, 

ood invA] liable for tiettllug the descentg — seemt to 


iting to Kent is 

• '\xnr ' aiL^ction, No. 309y 

introduced with the date 

•'■'^ ^ *i irUe of the 

1 it in the 

,uod to the 


*tf »**.,■- -•' ..^..... 

Dcii Aid of Like 
mdaf oi events, 
prmmbk. But the i^oond entry of the 

«|iiftv« tw aI naot wL it if re illv ;>. for it inform* us 
Uiitatt^ i^'in Hundred 

fiseiiiTAinuitte^Iii M 

of OauUemiFy *'; iir. 

ifMBi^ and l]i« lUforxu^uoQ ooiy two A 

of Omtettntfy of the name, wlio occur iu , , e 

proximity to each other, yU., Robert Kilwnrdby, 
li!73-7S, and Robert Winchelsey, 1293-1313. 
Moreover the second of them muit be intended, 
because no other Aid of that character took plsiLe 
durintj either of their archiepiscopate^, knighthotxl 
hiivio^^ been conferred on Edward Lon^'shanka sa 
ikr buck oa anno 38 Henry IH. (vid^^ fragment of 
Aid of that year preserved by Kobert Glover, 
Somerset, in HarL >lS., No. 245, folio 38). Agnin, 
at folio 123 of this Lansdowne MS., we have a copy 
of the veritable Aid of anno 20 Edw-ird IIL (of 
which Philipot li' ' Mn hia 

Collections for Kr lioStJ); 

and if any one wiii iUKe uie inniuif- ir> <u»mpar© 
these Aids he cin hardly come to any other coa- 
cl(Mioo^ I think, than that the finst of them is 
undoubtedly the next preceding one, of like 
auture, to that of anno 2U Edward III,; and it 
seemit probable, in addition, that it was made ii^e 
of for determining the assessments of the latter. 
But independently of such indication?, which a 
careful comparison cannot, in my opinion, fail to 
impress upon the mind, the evidence afforded by 
au examination of the several entries thenvselvee 
corrobonilesv and to a great extent, the date of 
anno 34 Edward I. for the earlier record. For 
irLstance, ** Henry de Gobham, junior,*' pays aid 
for Couling, and John, hb father, did not die till 
»Xk&o 28 Edward I. ; the date must necessarily be 
posterior to that year. Bartholomew de Biidlea* 
mere ^ys aid, but his Either, Guncelin, was not 
dead till anno 2f> Edward I. ; it cannot, therefore, 
be earlier than the latter date. None of the CrioU 
of the elder branch, which became extmet in anno 
30 Edward I. by the death of Eertrand de Criol 
without issue, and the acceasion of his sister to the 
estates, are mentioned ; the date lb, consequently, 
later than this* 

On the other hand, Walter and Robert de 
Vrvloi|^3 pifty aid for Otham, but " Robert, the son 
itf Walter de Valoigns, and Robert de Valoign,s *' 
(his uncle), were declared lords of that place m 
anno 9 Edward II, [iHd^ Parliamentary Writs), 
prior to which the date must be. Aijain, Thomas 
de Ley bourne pays aid, and there is only one of 
the name in tbo Leybourne [)ecli^ ' 'he 

heir to Sir William do Leybourni te 

hi" ^ *^ " ]n anno 1 Edward 11. li-^'v, ^^mcli 
foL Mgument of any date to the document 

tliat pr V, 

to TriV I: ■ -.,...,..■ , '_ .-.'j'n" 

al! iuit it is : al lh>^ 

m;t d of Carii , it will 

be seen that the internal evidence of the few I 
hnrti cited alone «ufRee3 to eonfine the possible ei r^ 
of its compilation to the interval betw'eon tinno 30 

• His father, also entered ai paying aid, oaly « ic^v^-e^. 
him two reare, dying In W^% \««t AlxK«:<)logifltQ*^'S>«~a, 
vol. T. p. 133, kc). 


iS^'S/II-Airo. 1,74 

Edward I. and anna 1 Edward II., or a period of, 
at most, little more than Bve years. 



I hare the foUowuig cutting in a scrap-book of 
tlie year 1840. It k worth embuiming in 

** OuaiN OF TBE Nambs of the Btatks op Amekica. 

I. Id sine was so c&Ued as earl; as 1633, from Moinej 
Lin France, of -which Henrietta MariUj Queen of Bugland^ 
f'm&s at that time proprietor. 

"2. New Hampanipc waa the nanie Riyen to the territory 
conveyed bv the Plymouth Company to Capt. John Mason, 
by patent, ^ot. 7j 10:^9. with reference to the pateidee, 
who vru Qoveraor of PortBmouthi in Hampshire, Bug- 

,i. Vermont waja so culled hy the inhahitantB in their 
declaration of independence, Jan, 16, 1777i from the 
French vcrd, i^reea, and mont, mountAin. 

4. MsAsachuaettg derived its name from a tribe of 
llndians in the neighbourhood of Beaton. The tribe k 
I suppowd to Imve derived its name from the Blue Hills 
rof Milton. ' I have J earned,' Ays Roger Willkms^ * that 
' the MasmehneettB were so called from the Blue Htlla,' 

5. Rhode Island was bo called, in 1641, in reference to 
the Iflland of Rhodes in the Mediterranean. 

6. Connecticut wb« bo called from the Indian name of 
it* principal riyer. 

7. New York (originally called New Netherlands) wa* 
so called ID reference to the Dulce of York &Qd Albftny^ 
to whom this territory was granted. 

8. New Jersey (originally called New Sweden) wu so 
^ named, iti 1644^ in compliment to tiir George Carte re t, 
I one of its oritrinal proprietors, who had defended the 
[ Island of Jersey against the Long Parliament during the 
I civil war of England. 

0. PennBylv&nia was ho called, in 1681, after William 
[ Penn, the founder of Philadelphia. 

IQ. Delaware was so called^ in 1/03, from Delaware 
Bay. on which it lies, and which received its name from 
Lord 0e ta Warr, who died in this bay. 

II. Maryland waa so call oil in honour of Henrietta 
Maria, Queen of Gharlea L, in his patent to Lord 

[Baltimore, June 30, 1632, 

I 12. Virgin La was so called, m 1534, after Elizabeth, 

Llhe viigia Queen of England. 

T 13 and 14. Carolina (North and South) was so called, 

f in 1664, by the French, in honour of Cbarles IX. of 


15. Georgia was so called, in 1772, in honour of 
George IL 

16. Alabama was so called^ in lS17j from its principal 

17> Miaainippi was so called, in 1790, from its western 
boundary. MiasisBippi is said to denote the whole river; 
tliat is, the river formed by the union of many, 

18. Louisiaua woa so c&Ued in honour of Louis XVI. 
of France. 

19. Tennesice was so called, in 179t5, from iti principal 
river. The word Tennessee is s&td to signify a curved 


20. Kentucky was so called, in 1782, from its principal 

21. Illinois was so called, in 1809, from ita principal 
liver. The word is aiud to signifv the river of men. 

22. Indianji was to cilled, in 1802, from the American 

23. Ohio was so colled, in 1802, from iU soatbeni 

24. Mlsfiouri WM so called* in 1S21„ from Ha princnpil 

25. Michigan w so called, in 1805, frcm the lake oa 
iti borders. 

26. Arkansas was so called, in 1S19, from its princip 

27. Florida wos so called^ by Jn&n Ponce de Leon, i 
L562, because it was discovered on £aster Sunday- 
Spanish , PatnuL Florida, 

28. Texas was so called by the Spaniards, In 1090, w| 
that year drove out a colony of French who bad 
lished themselves at Mittagorda, and niAde their : 
permanent settlement. 

29. WisGongin was so named, in 1836, from the rifi 
of the some name, when a territorial goTemmeot i 

30. Iowa was so called, in 1838, after a tribe of IndiaDS 
of the same name, and a separate terriloriaJ gore 

CoRirra | 

[With reference to Virginia, we may add a note wh 
is of interest on both sides of the Atlantic. John, foi 
Earl of Dunmore, was the last British Governor i 
Virginia. At nearly the close of his govemon 
youngest d«ughter was bom in that colony, fron 
she was named the Lsdy Virginia Murray. 
ginia was siater to the Lady Augusta Murray, i 
wife of the late Duke cf Sussex. The date of Lady ' 
gifiia'a birth was about 1777; and in Dcbrttt or 
year, 1874^ we find recorded as now surriving, *' Murra^ 
Lady Virginia^ daughter of the fourth Earl cf Lunmore^ ') 

W, J. R. 

I have just be«n reading a rare semi-poetic 
tract, which deaerves, I tnink, a brief note 
your columns. It is a small 4to. of twelve 
the first of them r«!i<ling : — 

"September 1, 1850. Fresh Waters from a Fresh 
Spring. Wave the First. W. J. R. Price 6d, Pub- 
lished by the Author. Printed by T. Smith, d« Bridge 
Court, Westminster," 

The hrockurc opens with a prose article^ entitl 
*' The Siesta/^ written in a %^in of juvenile enl ' 
Biasm :— 

" Few men, he they as commonplace minded as they 
may, but have pleasant thoughts occasional It llasluii| 
across their moncy-Ioving beartF, of spen^ng the deqUof 
of their lives amongit the hills and d^ea_ 
native county. For my x>art> I am ever dw« 
true castle -building intensity, upon the tim« ] 
shall be able to forget there is such a place ; 
and when— 

' Passing rich with fifty pounds a year/ 
I shall be ahls to dedicate myself to nature and my 
books, and leave the busy arena of life to spirits more 
calculating and cold than my own." 

Further on, speaking of those who derote them- 
selves to the rac€ for wealth, he says \ — 

*' Heaven help them, let them delve on —I envy 1 
not, and, dreamer as I am. I would rather be a ffmliU 
vifionary than a hardened lump of metal, with a V^ 
stamped in the mint of crime, bearing the kapr 
avarice and guilt.'' 

note ^H 



lea qC^£U 

J as LfmSm, ' 




Doling this iMila eomes a dream, wHicb 15 told 
hi recM. First, saji he, — 

'* I eair«n old mm gray : 

Itift ebc«k wif thin uid withered, hia flowing beard was 

And hii e;« «s tnum a OftTera threw out its pallid light 

And «Ter on the rippling wftTM the froth green buds he 

WhttowftntoQ windi in whiepera their woeful dirgep snng, 
'Whiibcr mw»j, Child, wbttber?' Wu voice was stern 

mod deep. 
*J fOv' Miu If ' to ntber the pe^rli from yonder steep.' 
The old man laugbed a noiwten laugh, — * They h»?e a 

brilliiLnt hue, 
But they'll rantsh ai you gnup them, they are but 

pearlj of dew." 

■ Wby pluck thoee budleUj Father 1 Why caat them ibu« 

»w»y t ' 
' I am the world*j wide waiter. Child, in me all tbingH 
bTbf«e bud* are bot the emblems of cbi1dhood*e early joyi, 
llflych ere they burst to blovaom, youth's early care 
' dcitroyB/' 

TliM is the key-not^ of the pocnL Again, oa a man 

'1 of power and riches, ana afterwards^ 

<i>nt and wrinkled," he raeet« the old Grey- 

Weoned horn the vanitieu of the world h© 

" I tremblingly withdrew, 

Ihe path that led to lOTe, more bright than 
fmrt» d/ dew,'* 

Withevident marks of juvenility these yerses give 

|ifi»iii9e of poetical power and expression. They 

are even more remarkable for their enthusiasm and 

kwr© of Nature and poesy. AIbjs for the high 

llOMt of youth ! the poet-dreamer, the *' guiltleaa 

IJHOii Myt" ^a« afterwards known to all nien as 

^^BBftin James Hobson, whose frauds upon the 

PH^pal Pakce, to the amount of about 26,00<U., 

^l^^in 1666, to his transportation for twenty 



I. •• When Favraa wat condemned at Paris during the 
BiiTililtttioD, Monnenr, the preaent Louis the XVIIL, was 
I of being hie employer. On the da? the execu- 
I waa to tike place Monsieur, instead of dining at his 
1 hour of 2 p Ji., ordered dinner to be kept buck till 
I for. Between 6 and 7 o'clock, his at Je-de-camp 
^g^e^T^*-*^* ' miclf into the apartment, and in joyous 
M^t' li out, * C'est fait' Monsieur turned 

iBlDi> irndant, and snid, ' Qu^on serve.' 

•• Iaxlh^, till he mounted the scaffold, r«lied on Mon- 
•inr^f procuring him a pardon ; and Moniiear was kept 
to 9^pmj, fearing that he might, in hi« despair and anger, 
make an aocusatorv confeaiion/' 

^ " General Lallemande saw a letter in Madame^s 
ttha wife of Monsieur) own hmidwritin);!:, In which, when 
rdattligthe oommitto,! of tb* (^ueLri to the Temple^ she 
addc. 'IjB. vuth'i uu sjhi Itikliie fn Vj-Hiloit/" 

of the tiffair of the diamond 

iio du Barry wat mode the 

juiuxa^ prin?j*4j Hk rci&uon of it* tltuftrated with the moft 

uti i iin «f»nacB^ and trMttauttcd a copy of it to alt 

the Courts of Europe. Two eopiet are now at Copen- 
hagen, and are called ' Mons^* edition.' 
'* My informant saw them." 

4. *' Pope Sixtus \. published a Bull of Excommuni- 
cation agHinst Henrr IV., in which he calls him ' The 
basturd and detestable generation of the House of Boor- 
bon.^R. W." 

5. " Le Pr^aident do Thou, the gretit hlfltoria.n af 
France, relates that * Franr^ois dc Guise wished to aaaas- 
sinate Antoino de Navarre, father of Henry IV., in the 
Ch&mber of Francis the II., baring engaged ihLg young 
prince to permit the murder,' *' 

6. " Murat said to me at Bologna, in Italy, in the year 
1814,— 'Pour un aoldat tel que moi qui sest missurle 
tr6ne r6pC'e h, la main, on no peut aescendre que de 
passer au torn beau.'" 

7. " The Diilicarlians bad by their fidelity preserved^ 
and br their valour restored, Gustavus to his tnrone. 

*' The Eiame DalicArlians engaged to re-establkh the 
monster tyrant, Christiem IL of Denmark, on condition 
that * they might again sing their Psalms in Latin ' — 
which they did not understand — 'and burn every 
Lutheran, without dtstmction of age, sex, or condition/ 
QustATut himself included, l»ecause tbey had eaten meat 
upon a fait day ! 

'* This fury of ignorance histed till the peasant found 
his taxes diminished in proportion as the priests were 
made to refund their usurpations, to restore their silver 
idols to the mint, and their superfluous bells to the 

8. "Gustavus, when working in the mines of Dali- 
oarlia, flattered himself that he had taken every pre- 
caution against discovery, fiut he had omitted to leave 
off wearing an embroidered Fhirt; and was detected by 
a female eye or Aant/— ' Honi soit qui malypcnse.'— 
R. W." 

9. ** When the tenatora of Sweden were being executed 
at Stockholm by the order of Christiem. the Bishop of 
Linkoving, when directed to lay bis he^d on the block, 
begged the commaDdlng officer to break the seal of hia 
arms which had been nflixed to the warrant for the 
arrest of the Archbishop of UpsaK Chriitiem himself 
tore off the seal, and found underneath a little note 
' protesting against the act which, from fear, he had been 
obliged to sign/ The long bead of the bishop saved hia 

10. "^ Had Napoleon but studied more the policy and 
life of GustavuB, he would have reformed the Ckun^ ef 
Francd^ and secured the conformity of Rngland to hU 
Imperial Establishment.— R. W." 

11. ''Maasena, on being aaked. when about to take 
command of the army of Italy, which was his baggage, 
replied by taking out of hi" pocket (me shirt and a map.*' 

12. '^ Sir Benjamin Bloomfield udvised Lady Cochrane 
to introduce into ber proposed memorial the term 
sovereign as often aa possible, * Since it was an appel- 
lation which much pleased His Majesty/ " 

13. "0. III. had the habit of unAwering all appUea- 
tions by the phrase, *I will think about it.* Lord Wal- 
singbam one day answered him by * Then I vrill think no 
m<xTe about it.' ** 

Herbert Bakdolfh. 


Witchcraft, — Although the belief in witch 
craft is dying out in proportion to the spread of 
educittioti and common-sense, yet certain l^i^nds 
and traditions concerning those who *^ trafficked 
with the devil'' are stdl circulated in maay 


[5»*S.1L AW;1,« 

loc»Jitie». I heud two examples of these, which 
perlnvps may interest some of the readers of 
**N, & Q;' The first bails from the " Kingdom of 
Fife"; the second is in eoanerion with that part 
of West Scotland in which I was born and fetill 
reside. The first tntditicn is as follows : — An uged 
woman, bearing the chiiracter of a witch, lived 
ulone in a miperable hovel, situated on an eicten- 
moor iB the centre portion of Fife- Besides 
•aring the notoriety of being an " uncanny wife/' 
she was celebmted in the district for a wonderful 
breed of "dooB*^ (pigeone) which the reared. On 
a certain day a boy made his appearance at the old 
woman's hut, and desired to purchase one of these 
pigeons. Being suppUed ajceordijiEj' to \dn whhes, 
he turned his steps nomewajdn, but had scarcely 
gone a mile when he discovered that the pigeon 
had disappeared, Scarcely knowing whnt he did, 
be returred to the old hag's hovel, where on 
entering he beheld his own bird sitting amongst 
its kin. An altercation immediately enaued be- 
twixt him and the old wonianj but lie eventually 
regained possesBion of the bird, which this time he 
carried home in safety. Next momiug, however, 
it was nowhere to be eeen, and, after a search, was 
a^ain discovered in the witch's hut» The boy's 
pai^ents, by thia time becoming suspicious that 
there had been some supematunil agency em ployed 
in this miruiculous diBappeamnce, applied to anolhf-r 
old woman for aid, vho advised them to send 
their boy to the witch's habitation, who, unseen, 
should cut off a small portion of her petticoat, 
wliich, on the boy's return, should be thrown into 
the fire. This waa done. No sooner had the rag 
cftnght fire than a great noise woa heard, and the 
old witch appeared at the doorway. Exclaiming 
that they were burning her heart, «he rushed 
forward, seized the fiaraing fragment from tbe 
bciiTth, disappeared, and waa never again seen in 
that district. The second tradition relates to a 
once celebrated witch, Meg Lang, of Dumbarton, 
who, being convicted of witchcmft, and a dhy 
being appointed for her execution, begged the 
magifitiates to grtint her a boon, which was that 
one of their number should be sent to Glasgow to 
purchase two pewter plates, whitih were to be 
Drought to her, but on no ticcount waa either of 
th(?m t^ be allowed to touch water. Her request 
having been granted, one of the bailies was 
despatched to Glasgow for the plates. Having 
made his purchase, he turned homewards, and 
about half-way began to feel rather thirsty. At 
this point, happening to approach a beautifully 
clear, cool stretmi, he detCTmined to indulge him- 
self with a drink of water. He tried to bend his 
head down to tiio water, but, being of a rather 
obefl© eonfonnation, was unable to do ko ; so at 
last, utterly regardlcs* of the instructions which 
were given hiin, he filled on« of the plates, took a 
heaxty **waucht,' and continued hjs journey to 

Dumbarton, On the day appointed Meg Lang 
was led out to execution. On approitcliing tl 
gtate, she^ holding' a plate in each hand, con 
menced to flap with her arms a^ birds do wif 
their wings, hhe mounted a few y.ird8 into 
air, when one arm was observed to find her, i 
whirling round, she fell to the ejixth, and tl^ 
execution was proceeded with, not, however, 1 
it wa^ discovered that the arm that lailed J 
held the plate from which the worthy 
drunk, *D, D, 

The Bkll akb theGhavf. — A r.n^iHb fnnnir 
vicarage was lately startled by the i 
wonted hour ofthe church bell. On >^ N 

tain theciusc of Ihc disturbance, an*' old mhabitantj 
was found in the belfry, who had been engaged, f 
the absence or illness of the u»ual sexton, to dig^ 
grave. He said, in explanation, thnt in hi? 
it was alwaye usual for the grave-d ' o\i 

bell three times before breaking t. 
ground. ,J, it. 

"Star dcmsoing the Mook'' (5^^ R. i. 3S4:'- 
l^ome years ago, an old fisherman o' 
me, on the morning next after a Tioi< 
had foreseen the storm for some tiinf, aa ht: lu 
observed *^ onu star ahead of the moon, towing " 
uud another aatem, chaaing her. I know^dJ 
coming, safe enough." He had simply ootio 
moon nearly in a line between, imd tomewli 
two conspicuous stara or planets. 


Popular Sitpkrstitionb.^A striking instmnd 
came lately under my observation. Travellfa 
along a main highway in East Cheshire, I antic 
hanging against the outbuildings of a comfortable 
looking farm-house what seemed to be a bundlj 
of bones and hide. On inquiring at the place, { 
was told it was a cufitorti when a cow **Flippedi 
her calf (that is when the birth was untiiiscly) 1 
suspend the dead ctilf against the cow-bouse,* aa ( 
charm to prevent the other cows from doing 

In the above case the remains of the calf 
stated to have been hung up during twenty ye 
and were brought from another laxni wmcb 
owner had previously occupied. 

Some people say that the cjJf ppematurely ' 
must be secretly buried in another townslit^ 
The words ** picking " and ** casting ** are m^ 
in the same sense as "slipping.** Few ma 
prove more conclusively the euprii 
the education which has hitherto, 
rural districts than the 
among many farmers and 
ashamed to openly avow iinr 
are privately cherished by tti 



The Houses of Stdart A?n> SoTHBRLAifD.— 

IfttD not awnre il' ' " M-^ - .ra that, ac- 

cordiii^ to the tttf representa- 

lior '^-^ '' Tise oi .HLi. J .J. iii have sue- 

Cff' throne ol on the death of 

K\h^ L , Bruce in Ly, ., .-.. ; ?it)f the House of 


T}w illustriouR King Rohert Bnwe had three 
^^ Marjory, who was maiTi«d to the 
i of ScotlaDd, and who waa King Robert's 
dbaxghter by hJ9 Jirst wife. By his ieaond wife, he 
iflii tLin^ David and a datigbtefi who Wfts married 
to the Earl of ButherlAiid, It is n weU -known 
lepal nile that, in Kiiccession, the fuU blood ex- 
chi' If. The Countess of Biitherlftiid, or 

her nts, ou^ht, therefore, to have sue- 

cec<ic'l ti> tilt? throne on the death -of King David. 
. Thig was f*o clear that it was recoj^ntzed and 
I for by King David and the L<?gii^!uttire ; 
fune^cpected death of the elder son of the 
irnmedjately after attaining iminhood 
Ducert^d this ftrraiifrenient, her other 9on being 
in infancy or little more ; Jind, on King 
id's dying shortly affcerwardF, the Steward of 
IliTu] ili^> son of MttTJory, ascended the throne 
rt IL, and that without any oppo- 
t in the shape of war, on the pari of 
Ottse of Sutherland. There were, in the cir- 
ttnces, numerous und sufficient reasons for 
pferrin;? the Steward. (1.) Bcotknd was still 
an nn'ipttlpd stnte after long wars with the 
Ai nation no doubt. cleiKfly 
ble that they «honld have 
in^' iQ nil I In- > i;;oiur of manhood. (2.) Ac- 
cording to the historians, the Steward poesewied 
mftt pergonal qualihciitiona for the office. (3.) 
He wms of undoubted descent from King Robert 
" ' *' ^ too, by his eld^ (mughter. 
\vere extremely powerfnL (5.) 
vxiitoriea lay in a ranch more 
Bition in Scotland than did those of the 
F^inls.-rl.MiuI. r; \ exertions had 
' !*'■ independence 
I '"^utliriiantj had 
little or nothii ji that 

I r, might be :i je, at 

to the distance of the county of 
'in the chief itcene of strife — the 
But be that as it may, there 
t the exertions of the Stewards 
» wdi fic iielri to jgive to th^ir hotijsc the beet 
ia the cirtunkHtances, to incceed U-* the 
t«— n ngbt of the Kame imMcemi.t 
m tkiC of Kni» E*jbcrt Btvee hiiiuelf, w 

]lirw«ft d- 
bad, wi^ 
IIm itnVt 
tbaL, bef 
hit dftu^: 

Toyal family or .^t 4- 
Litfttivc according lo 
It may be added 
irriage, the right of 

uf her husband, the 

9le«»r<( md of their diwceudantB, to succeed to 

the throne was recognized by the Scottish Legis- 
lature ; and, while the birth of Dnvid II., lind uf 
hi« sifltcr, the Gountess of Batherland, m*y lie 
held to huve 8uj>erseded tbi - — ......t- r -f, it m^y 

be »Md to have been ultiur t to ia 

the Buooeeeion of Robert IL .. ..i. ...^ ..iuarroaoe 

Off the Legisbtfure, Reicrt Kiloodil 

Dr. Dojtxb. — I have a copy i ' Pottrnt 

Tonson'g edition of 1719, on the \] i o end <i 

which there is in MS. a poem ;> ^< 1 1 1 ! 1m. I>otiai, 
of which I send a copy, If t hv jh l u. i n t knowji, 
or not known a? Donne '«, it nmy be of interest to 
your re^iders to learn the foUowifng partiouhira. 
The ink is a good deal faded, and the handwriting 
18 that of the beginning of the hL<?t century. The 
volume had the book-plate of ** Marquis Coro- 
walLis" pasted inside the cover. On examiniijg 
it carefully, I thought I saw some sign -of thia 
phite having been pasted over another. I mtsed 
the Marquis's book plate, and found my con- 
jecture confirmed by the discovery of an earlier 
plate of the Comwallis amis, with a barorl*8 
coronet, and with the following inscription en- 
graved under the shield r " Cha : Cornwallia, tfi 
Comwallis/* On referring to Brj'dges*^ CoWiiw, 
vol. ii. r>5ri, I find that Charles *Oomwallis, the 
fifth baron, succeeded in 1721-2, and wiw treated 
a viscount in 1753. The presumption, therefore, 
would be that the MS. poem in this copy is in his 
handwriting. The following ia a copy of the 
inscription or poem. This poem I found in an 
old m^muscript of Sir John Cotton, of Btmtlo% 
UuntingdoDahire :— 

"Abuxos, bt J. Doirxe. 
AlMoncc^ hear thou my protestatioir 
Apkinst thy strength, 
Bbtanoe and length, 
Do what thou canst for alteratton. 
For Hcftrte of truest MottiJ 
Abwnoe doth joyn and time doth wiUe, 
Who loves a miitresw of such qnality 
His mind hath found 
Affieotioti's ^roiiiid 
Btyond time, pkce, and »11 mortalttj'^ 
To hearts that cannot rary, 
Abeenee U pra«ent, time doth Tarty. 
My fenset want their outward iziotloa 
W(h)ilo now ivitbia 
Eea«on dotii win* 
Redoubled by her «ecret Nt»tion, 
Like rich men that tnko nh?anire, 
In hiding^ meM than handling treamre. 

By absence Itii j ^ood meitti I gaiit, 
Thftt I cftn cwAeh her, 

When' rionr cnn wnteli h^T. 
In some cl 
There 1 i 
AbA fO enjuy nrr vrniio Tionc miif>9 her." 



[S'** 8, 


BuRiJiNG V. BuRYiyo. — The following raay be 
worthy the notice of those interested in cremation. 
See memoiri of the Literary arid FkiloBophical 
Societif of Majushe^ttry 1793, vol. iv. pt. i. p. 217, 
Plates^ being a eommunicjition of "An Antient 
Mode of Sepnlture/' from Mr. Alex. Copland of 
IJrr, 30 Oct.» 1792, to Dr. Percival, and read before 
the Society, 30 Nov. 1792; also, vol. iv. pt. ii 

&330, a p.*iper from the same {gentleman to Mr. 
arv'ev, Secretary, ** On the Combustion of Dead 
Bodies formerly practised in Scotland/' read 4 Oct, 
1793, before the same Society. 

Richard Hemming. 
Warrington, MX. 

Dr. Des's Crystal,— The newspapers record 
the death of Commander Riclmrd Jamei? Morrison^ 
the compiler of ZadkitVi Almanac, It will be 
remembered by many that, in a trial in which he 
was concerned several years ago, it came out that 
he was the possessor of Dr. Dee*s magic mirror, so 
fia^moua in the early part of the seventeenth century, 
to which was ansij^'ned the credit of having made 
known the Gunpowder Plot. So widely was this 
aasertion believed, that it found its way into our 
Prayer Books. In one, print^^d by Baskett, 1737, 
18 a picture representing the mirror diaoloaing the 
facts. Surely it is well worth while to see that this 
magical relic be preserved, and not left to be sold 
for old lumber, and be lost and forgotten. 

E. L, Blenkinsopf. 

Parallel Passa^ses. — Correspondents of " N. 
& Q " have quoted parallel passages which cannot 
be reckoned proofs of plagiarism. The most strik- 
ing instance I know occurs in Aristophanes, Eipini;, 
L 948 :~ 

If at iivL^aipaVy 

KqX Tl»P^t TQVTiy KQV^^V to'X'^h ff^"*/^' TO TTpofiaTOVf 

Compftred ivith Genesis xxii. 7 : — 

" Behold the lire and the wood ; hut where m the 
lamb for a bumt-offerlng ] '^ 

S. T. P. 

Anecdotes of Cromwell. — I have met with 
the following anecdote in a book of newspaper 
cuttings collected about 1788-1792. I do not 
remember to have seen it elsewhere. Like many 
anecdotes of the great Protector, it la probably 
apootyphal : — 

" ProTioiifl to the battle of Marstcm Moor, Lieuteniint 
Cjk&eral Cromwell had Mot out 8pie« to reconnoitre the 
king's fore ea under the command of Prince Rupert. Not 
oonfiding in their report of the dijipoflitiofj of the enemy, 
and detcrmiaed to g&m personal information, unknown 
to any of hia officers be procured the habit of a farmer, 
with which hanng equipped himself, be mounted a cart- 
horse, takes a circuit from the camp and reconnoitres the 
king's forces from every conyenient point of view; but 
being observed by some eentineli, troopers wore sent out 
to take him prlioner. On coming suddenly upon him, 
they accosted him roughly: Oliver, pretendtag deafness, 

naked with the greatest tranquillity, For what porpose 
those brave men were armed? On being informed that 
they were the king**, and that the opposite troops b« ~ 
longed to the Parliament, 'What!' said Oliver, 'han 
they diflTered tbenl' The Mmplictty of the queitioi 
excited laughter among the troopcra^ and Oiiver wi 
permitted to proceed to his camp without 

I also not loBg since read another Cromv 
anecdote^ which was, like the above, new to 
buti as FlueUen sa^-s, '" it is out of my pn 
where I met with it. I must accordingly te" 
well as I can from memorj\ Cromwell, 
riding one day in Scotland, was fired at ; thel 
of course missed its aim. Oliver, without eve 
stopping, merely turned round, and crie<i outj 
^' Fellow, if one of my soldiers had miased stich i 
mark, he should have had a hundred lashes.'^ 

I wish to end with a query a prqpo* of the reiL 
used by, or attributed to, Oliver, Did floggin 
exist in the Parliamentary army ? I think it vc 
improbiihle that those grim warriors who, aa the 
great leader himself said, *' had the fear of '^ 
before them, and made some conscience of wh 
they did," were ever subjected, or woidd inde 
have submitted, to the indignity of the laaL 

Jonathan BotrcHiKii. 

Junius and *'The Ministerialist.*' — Abooi 
the month of October, 1783, probably soon after 
the publication of the "booksellers* edition*' 
Junius had revived the attraction of the nnm«i 
Stockdale published a virulent attack upon th 
new Govrernment, entitled The MinukrHiluit^ 1 
Junius, with the t juotation from Macbeth, " Ca 
such things be?" &c., as a motto. In our day 
when Junms has become a classic, and liis styli 
familiarized to na by a host of imitators, it it* 
matter of difficulty to believe that this productioij 
could ever have imposed upon anybody ; but it i| 
nevertheless true that it was received by seven 
of the journals as a genaine work of the ** mighty 
boar of the forest." 

The private affairs of Fox and Burke 
handled here with a more tlian political iinimoaity 
'^ A grateful countrj'," says the ^Titer, ** will lop 
remember how cheaply they have purchased 
appointment of the Duke of Portland ' ^ 
the tried in t^;rity of Messrs. Sheridan nii 
that of Lord John Cavendish, of Lord i\i pp • 
Lord Northington, and, above all, of the lligh^ 
Hon. Mr. Fox." And to the reference to Bat 
a note ia appended : — ^ 

' ' Exemplified by the Opera-House scconnts of the onij 
of wbtcb the Public will hear more in a court of Law] 
and by the failure of the other in Im West India CoUei 
torship, of which the Public ought to bear in the i 

In another part we are told how Fox, " out < 
fine feelings of humanity for the sufferings of 
ereditois, coodeocexidGd U> receive a hourly pittA&o 



foi mmisterlDg at a public gaming-table^'^ which is 
afterwards explainea in ihis way : — 

** For the infornmtioD of our Eeadtn we mtist state 
tliat within tfaeM few months Mr. F— x held in wtDer* 
ship with two other gentlemen a public Faro Bunk at 
BralcetX a game so notnriouBf; fruudulent that It 
' I rappreoed bj Act of Parlitinient. And aa a com 

MMatioD for this labour* the dealer, an ofRce ivbicb 
nvquantlT feU to the share of Mr, P., received from the 
loiBt ftock the wages of fl?e guineas for eTory hour thus 
MOotuably spent/ 

Who wn& the writer of thm pamphlet? The 
iTiiQitioa hail, of course, no direct oeanng upon the 
Jnmtis mjaterj, but it would be of some interest 
to diacoTer the daring person who at this eiirly 
diC0 Qaurped the uamCf and it would enable us to 
j|]dg9 how far such usurpation majr account for some 
of the mystifications connected with the inquiry. I 
infer, from the criticism of the Monthltf Rsinew^ 
that it WHS regarded at the time as the work of a 
mator in the camjp. **This pamphlet," says the 
WTTCwer, " is not ill lATitteD, and would have gone 
off well enough if the author hiid called himself 
Jtdijui, or Juaaa, or anything but Junius." 

C. Elliot Browi^'e. 

[W« nrast request correspondents desiring information 
on fiMni]]r matters of only private interest, to affix their 
Banes and aildre«se8 to tiicir queries, in order that the 
r aas p eJS may be addpeised to them direct. 1 

■ — - 

^M GosPATRtc, — Will Hjs&mekt&ods or other of 
V your obliging readers aaaiat me in obtaining the 
^LoBDoalogy of Gospatric, who appears, according to 
^H^Wtaker, in his Laodu d Elmde^ to have been the 
^HKn* or ancestor of John le Scot, of Sootty^ Hall, 
^^^Ster Newton, in the township of Leeds^ York- 
abirr T John le Scot was steward to the Empress 
Maud circa 114^. 

Snd* Was 6oZf Cob, or God (a name appearing 
- ^ ") nmonymous with Gos or Cospatrick] 
me minstrel, book i. ch. 4^ has the 
>.^. „liich may aasist in the inquiry :— 

**Ring Edirard (Rdvr. L) paat and Cospatric to Scone, 
kwi there he ^ot homage of Scotland soone, 
For riofie W4s left the reaTm for to defend. 
For John Ilaliol to Montroae then he send, 
M. put him down for erer off this KiDgrjk. 
Than Edwards self was called a Royftd ryto, 
Tkt Crown he took npon the self same stane.'* 

6|Makiiig of tHe stone at Scone, the minstrel 

^fOOfieds: — 

** m« Jtwel he got tune into Enghind. 
la Unulmi it set in witness of this thing, 
By oonquevt then of Scotlaud called him King. 
Wlim that stone is Scots aje should Masteni be^ 
CM ehase the time for MargnrtVt * hein to see/* 

3rd. What is the meaning of the first line of the 
above doggerel ? 

4 th. Was the name of Goz» Coe, God, the 
equivalent for ** Ysgod/* the British etymon for 
the Anglo-Saxon **Scot-'? As it would appear 
that the surname of David of Huntingdon, and Ids 
progenitors from the time of Malcolm Eanmoie, 
was that of " Le Scot/' — probably from his im- 
mediate descent from the royal heir of Scotland, — 
does any known connexion in way of descent or 
near alliance historically exist between the family 
of David of Huntingdon — whose only son was anr- 
named John le Scot— and this Cospatrio, the 
reputed father of John le Soot, stewartl to the 
Empress ^f and before referred to ? 

liistly, Wtis GoRpatric descended from the 
ancient Earls of Northutuberhind or from the 
Domesday Earls of Huntingdon (feifs to the reatm 
of England held by the Norman Kings of Scot- 
land) and Northampton, or was he connected with 
the ancient Earls of Chester, the last Palatinate 
Earl, of whom was John le Scot, in right of his 
mother^ Maud» daughter of Hugh le Kevelioc ? 

A^ I find, in my researches into the family his- 
tory of the Kings of Scotland and their immediate 
descendants^ that the name of Cospatric, or Gosl, Ik 
frequently found in some connexion with them, I 
am anxious to know in what descent (if any) the 
connexion exists, pointing to a descent either from 
Wiiltheof, Karl of Northumberland, and through 
him to the Earls of Huntingdon and Northampton, 
or eke through the Earls of Chester from the 
ancient Saxon Earls of Mercia. 

As I said before , I shall be emteful for any 
information about him, or the locsdity of his caput 
haronia;, in England or Scothind. 

J. R. Scott, 

Wtatt or Wyat, Browne, Tctfkell, — Con 
any of your correspondents give me information 
as to these families, and more narticularly with 
reference to those persons of tne names giren 
below. John Wyatt, said to be of Wychwood, 
but noMibly of Burford, or Minster Lovcll, Ox- 
fordaiiiiB (son of George Wyatt^ and grandson of 
George Wyatt, who dietl U>24, the fourth son of 
George Wyat, of Boxley, Kent, by hia wife Jane, 
daughter of Sir Thomas Finch, of EastweU), mar- 
ried Elizabeth, daughter of Samuel Browne. She 
died 6 June, 1728, aged fifty-six, and her father 
died 13 February, 172t», aged seventy-three. I 
want to learn the date and pkce of maniage of 
John Wyatt with Elizabeth (Browne), the dj^ of 
his birth and death, the place of hia burial, and 
hia occupation ; and also the same facto aa to his 
father and grandfather, mth the names of their 
wives, children, &c. I also seek infotmatioti of 
Samuel Browne ; Captam Edward Tufnell, maaon 

* MamMl, eldest daughter of David of Huntingdon, of John Baliol, Ring of ScoUaiidf and of bsr present 
^mtx «f Jaha la Scot« Earl of Chester <12d7)f ancestress | Mj^tj^ Qoeen Victoria. 



[5**aiL ce. i;*?! 

to WestniinBter Abbey, who died 2 September, 
17 19, and is buried in flie Abbey; married in 
l(f97» at the Abbey, Anne, duugnter of Samuel 
Bfowne. Is anything* known of the ancestry or 
dOBeendantB of Edwiitd Tufnell i 

Rkoinalt) Stewabt Boddington. 

Bavwrll Court, Su me rj^ki'.— During the re- 
aioTiition of tim jtucient tnaumon, Hoiue iew moDth» 
ginoe, ik stone corl>el of lurge diiuenBiuoB was found, 
at the bottom of an otd foundation ; upon it is the 
(bllowing co«t : on a chevron three esutdlopSf the 
ooJoufB not indicattiii. Aguin, at the back of an 
old Qiantelpiei^e the aanie arnia, impiilin^ those of 
tJiG ae© of Welk, were found t!urved on a piece of 
Qttea atone. £«Jiwell Court was formorly the 
sBsideDoe of the Biahopa of Bath and WeUa. I do 
not tind the above coat as belonging to either of 
the Biahoi»s. Perhaps gome of your reailers will 
be able to infoi'm me to what family they belong, 
uid how they come to be mip&led with the iinm 
of the ate of Wells* Cearlbs Wade. 


FaiEDRicH Kapp's ** Geschichte dkr 
Bkutsohen EmwANDERUNG IN Amerika.'' — Has 
this work been tranfiiated into English ? 

Jat ArrcH. 

** SUflbrdflbirc, — The Widow of the Wood, an authentic 
bftrmlive c^f tk luia remurktiblo Tranaaction in ^tafTord- 
■hire. riifitilj Buppresi^d, am. Svo., calf neat, 21 f. 1755. 

" Every copy of thiBextraordinury tiarratiTc that could 
be rounil wiui l)ougbt up and destroyed by the descoD- 
dftnU of the ftunily. To Is copy cout&iug MS. notes, and 
» Key to die cbaracters/' 

1 shall be nioeb obliged if some one will kindly 
explain the meaning of this extract from a eatu- 
logue of Mr. Downing, of 74, New Street, Bh- 
mingham. CiiAHLEa F. S. Wakren, M.A. 

EUendiej Bexhill, Hastings. 

"Htstory op tmk Gexeral Election of 
1802J'—In Suirth*s FarliammU of Enffland, vol. 
til. p. 99^ there ia an extract quoted from tliis 
work, page 149. Where can I see a copy of tliis 
book f Is it in the British Mtiaeum^ imd if so, 
under what heading / I have seitrthed for it there 
in vain, Aino, can any one inform me who was 
elected M.P- for Oaahel, vice Richard Bagwell, 
reeigned in December, l&Jli I have a MS. note 
(tAk«n^ I think, fi-om the retiu-na in the Crown 
Offloe)-which givea " John Bagwell," elected I*e- 
comber 0th, but who was this John Bagwell ? 
One person of the name repreaent-ed the county 
(Tipperary) at that time, and I do not know of 
wjotW John in the family at the same tijue who 
wii» eligible. Alfred B. Beavek, M.A. 


*' SiNopLiL"--Ciiaaanji, in his* chapter on French 
Heraldry^ gives va-t as the equivalent for this word ; 


but on refening to Hkiiiner, E(ifiM>logicoH Lifujut^ 
Aiiglicjxntr^ ed. If57!» I find it thus : — 

** ^inople, » Fr. Siaople, Iiuhr%ca forte m Snioos Po&ti 
urbe undc ohm adveotum, est q. d. Terra SbiopiOA.'' 

Which is rightj or haa the word been u^ed \ 
both? RorsBE. 

IVLfiKBKLSBOSK. — ^Waa the eminent ooiii^ 
and musician any descendftot of, or in anylj 
related to, Mose^ Mendelssohn HT^n st;' 
friend of Lesaitig and the original 
Jew in the latter's drama, Nathan ^ 

Jat Ajti^o. 

The SociETT OF Ancie^jt Scots. — TLI ' * / 
existed in 1S21, and edited Lim^ of ti> 
ro€t4^ 3 Tok. IBuio. To the different nvts ure 
merely notod initiaU, as follows ; — 

W. A— B. T.— E. W.— B. K.— R. C— C. a~R. H 
D. B.— a. M-n.-J. B.-J. R.-E. L-W. M.-D, C. 
8. Y.^G, G.— T. M.— C. H.— M, M.— A. S. J. L 
H: B.-B. 1\-B. M.-P. B.-P. R.-J. E.-^E. B. 

H. s.-a. t.^j. m.— t. c— h. s.~a, t.— a. n 

R. M.— D. K^N. J.^W, C.--K. F,— J. G,— W. W. 
W. 0.~A, O.-O. E.-l). S.— W. B.-J. H.— P. B.- 
T. McN. 

Can any of your readers give the key ? 

Charles Haines Gunk, — He is the author < 
Di4uUory MourSy a volume of verse published i 
Yanuiiutb^ 1844, dedicated to the Hon. 
Hev, E. PeOew. Can you give me any informn 
tion regarding him ? He was, if I mittake not, i 
student at Cambridge, B* Inous. 

Latimer : Arukdel. — In Burke's Ej^im 
Feerage it BUttea that William Latimer, fourd 
Lord Latimer of Dan by* married the Lady 
beth Fit^-Alan, daughter of Richard, Earl 
Arundel, From the dates given it mn^t cithc 
have been the ninth or t«nth Earl whos • 
was married to Lord Latimer. In 1 
Fitz-Alan in the Extinct PeeriVfi^ I could ijyl tin 
any daughter of either Karl who was married I 
Lord Latimer. The Chi'islian name of the SQ 
Earl in alwo EichanI, but it evidently wa* : 
If it was the tenth Earl, the Latimera wc 
entitled to the arms ot Fitx-Aian. I am 
interested in finding out this, as our 
• [Uarters the armx of Latimer with thoFc of Nev 
W. G. TArTNTOs* 

Heraldic. — To what femily appertains the fol- 
lowing coat — Asfi., a eross pat6e between fourflencs 
de lis per saltire orf Q< 

Hemhikg, King of Denmark, reigned 
811-12, aooording to Playfiiir^s C^rwioZojfjr, Ediji 
burgh, 1 784. I wish for a reference to the life i 
reign of this monarch, and the mcantiig of 
name, if any. B. H* 




y be looked upon 

,;owhen?. Anyone 

with thii? miormation "off-hjini," or 

' 1 1 ion t o t work of tra^t worthy authority 

i \j doin^ me a servicf . 

fid in the :iutu!iin, and 

like Uj cukiviite the acqujiintance of 

w their native place, so shnll be ^'Imi 

tkuow where they are moat likely lo be easily 

'^ ; with. Leslib. 

Sir Johs Whitbrooke.— Who was 8ir John 

Hi ^ 1 1 Listley 

Street. Feotiment diited 3l>th September, 9 Jamea. 
Burke*» Arrtwry mentions a coat of unus f^nted 
tf> tbiH ntune on 2nth March, 22 Queen ElizLibetk 
There is & bouse in the Low Town^ Brid^norLb, 
iiufcfked " Whitbrook Uouae '' on the map of 1835, 
and Uiis may have been his residence* 

Wm. p. Philljibiorb, 
Soenton, Nott». 

** OuEssKs AT Truth.-' — In this work, by the 
bmUiers Hare, the paragraphs are maiked by let- 
ters of the alphabet. In hia Preface to the reader 
Jtiliu^ 311 y«» *' Such of them lu* rire distinguished by 
•omt»fsipit:»l U^tter I have borrowed from my acuter 
fti^ndft." U Ap[>cA» to be the cleverest of the lob. 
I* ■ ! uho he was, and ttre the othem kno wu \ 

Jii' -f own contributions are unlettered ; of 

llkeui iit« Kays, *' My own are little more thun 
^fiamerinja^ I bad almost said dreams of thought ; 
not ft word in them ia to be taken on truHt/' 

C. A. Waed. 

WATin^iUfcltiL — I am anxiotis to obtain in- 
ane: the water-mark on a MS,, 
rnnl evidence, must have been 
^ v^^ of the reii^ of Charles IL 
' oat, the de.^tgn represent?* 
„ his hand, on the top of which 
[-like hat. On the head of the 
is, to appearance J a foolVcap, 
him the lej^end " Pro Patria." 
r-^igh is a 8ort of large curb-chain 
I'he size of the MS,, I should say, is 
ap r]Tiarto. About what period was thb 
, and wa« there any circumstance in 
saggett so singiUar a water-mark \ 


i*OEii bT T. K. nF.Fivr.v.— Some seventeen or 
iJ;: \vaa pabliished by tlie 

1^. , o Barker, entitledf The 

Th»m iMy* of l^'ifulsydoU^. In this book he 
qttotei tlic foliowing poetHf attributing the same 

to the lute Mr* T. K*.Herv%y. I am ansLious to 
know whether tlie lines here gircn iire the whole 
poem^ or whether, as I ?^tt«"«' -^ *here are more 
verses which ^Mr, Barker i ven. I have 

searched in many likely ana .„.. . y places in the 
vain hope of discovering the original. 
**Tlirit nuict liind i,vli£Tt>, peril paflt* 
'* pose; 

'i at Ufit 

A IJflllil T'>r UM X'y- \Sur'fi. ; 

And lowly ^'■ri<'t' and lurdij prid^ 
Lici dowu like brotUeriii aide by «idc. 

Tho broftth of ilaoder oaunot come 
To break the calm that lingers there ; 
There is no < iho tomb, 

No waking ii 
UukiudnM-s t...... -, ., ...uad us more, 

And &I1 earth's bittemess id o>r. 

There the foaiden weita lill her lover come. 

They neirer more shall part ; 

And the ttricken deer hath fitted her home 

With the M-row in her heojrt ; 

Aud pa88]on''B puUe lies liii«]jed and itill, 

Beyond the reacli of the tempter'a AkiU» 

The mother— she U Kone to sleep, 
With ber babe upon ner brewit— 
Bhe ha6 no weary watch to keep 
Of ©r her infant's roit ; 
H\» alumbera on her Ixxsom fair 
Shall never more he broken— there»'* 


** Ultima " as a Ohbistiak Namb.— In a eon- 
vcrSati -' ^ ^ - V n few days ago, with ■ -^ ■ -^ ' lady 
of L.I! f»aid that the ymitv hter 

of a n , ..iLi ,. wifts family WBs nanK-v v .,LUia/' 
Is this a solitary instance f There are miiny 
ftuvttriml Christian names, both male and female, 
but I never heard of an ** Ultima " before ! 
By-the-bye, the name would be an unfortunate 
one if an Ultima was not the kiM, but a 
FtnniHma ! Richard Baxter's " laat words *' were 
obliged to be followed by " more hist words ! ** 
Btephbn Jackbox. 

Muse :— 

ly Mme ^ntlo MvM 
: ucky words favoar my deitin'd urai 
An I tk^h* pu9c» tnrn* 
And bid fair mNU» be to my iablc shroud, " 

Milton. Lycidat, 19-21 
Is there any other inatance of a gentleman Muse 
in English poetry ? A. L, Mayhkw. 


GowT, Ek«ravek, — I have an engrared pot- 
tniit of a Gresham Professor, of 1644, mjirked 
**rjrowy del" Who waa this Growy, and where 
c^uld 'l inform myacif about him ? I^Tone of tho 
ctirrent bio^^raphiciil wuikn of painter? or en- 
gravers mention that B» G. 

University College, Ll 




(5^ S, L 247.) 
ll would not be difficult to give nmny in- 
stances of names beinj< entirely diverted from 
their originttl significations in parsing from one 
jAnguftge to another, for it is eo very natuml for un- 
educated and illiterate people to attempt to ^ve 
to a word which, to their minds, conveys no definite 
ide& a sense which has some aignificanoe in the 
dialect they are familiar with, that such instances 
will be always found where two languages meet^ 
or where foreign words are introduced into a 
language. The word €i$paraqus^ corrupted into the 
English Aparrow-gra&Sf is a familiar instance, and 
many similar might be adduced. Probably on the 
confines of England and Wales other changes of 
names quite as extraordinary na that of Yr Eifi 
into ** the Rivals" might be found. 

A Welshman or Breton would have little diffi- 
culty in remembering the names af localities in 
Cornwall, bcciiuse, in most cases, they have a sig- 
nificance in the dialects with which he is familiar. 
Penzance = Holy head, a neighbouring hamlet, 
Chyandour (Welsh Tt-an-dwr) = House on the 
water, are examples of this ; but the Corni^hmen 
of the present day have long lost all knowledge of 
the ancient Celtic tongue spoken by their ance^ors, 
and the consequence is that chimges of name quite 
as strange as the instance given by Mr. Fallow 
01*6 not uncommon. The name of Monsehole, n 
fishing village near Penzance, is said to be a cor- 
ruption of the Cornish words Moz-hayh^ the 
** maiden's brook,'* or Mm^fnd^ the " sheep^s moor.' 
More than one locality in that county bears the 
extmordinarj name of Weary-me-out, evidently a 
(x>rruption of some more ancient appellation. On 
the eastern border of the county, near Plymouth, 
there is a ferry called Penny-come- quick, and a 
legendary story has been invented to account for 
the name ; but a Welshman will have no difficulty 
in Tecognizing in the first three syllablea Ftfi-v-tumi, 
= the " Head of the combe." What may be the 
meaning of the last syllable I know not, but doubt- 
less it has one. 

English ffimily names derived from a Norman 
source have undergone largely the proces.^ of tnins- 
mutation into significant English words, Churchill, 
it is well known^ wasoriginaByi)* Courceuil; Beau- 
champ became, at least in popular pronunciation, 
Btcdiavi. The Norman termination vUle was 
changed in numberless cases into the English ^/icW, 
fild^ot/dl, Uranville or GrenviUe, tntnemuted 
into Greenfield, may be given as an instance^ and 
many others might be adduced. 

In this island (Guernsey) the old names of places 
are all French, or, to sviak mote correctly^ Nor- 

man. The lower classes of English, who come 
over here in search of employment, can make 
nothing of these names ; but whenever they ap^ 
proach in sound to an English word, an adaptation 
ts sure to be made. Thus, the parish c^Uled L€ 
CiUd is always spoken of by them as the Kettle or 
Cattle ; the bay of Rocqiuiine is changed into 
Rock -end ; UAncrtsite into Long creai^ ; La TVA*- 
roiicrie (an old word, signifying a tannery) becomes 
The Cherry-tree ; and La Hongut'k'U Ptrrt-^ 
the Ugly Pier. I could give other inatances, but | 
I think I have said quite enough to show that this | 
"peculiar treatment of words** is far from un- 
common. Edoar Mac<7clloch. 

I refer Mr. Fallow to Taylors Wordi a\%d\ 
Places (the beat work on the subject) for instances 
of what he requires. They may be multiplied I 
almost to any number. The Focl^ the hM or] 
treeltM hilli in Monmouthshire, is now known as I 
the Vale. Br- Cbirles Lloyd, some seventy year« I 
ago, called a well in Llanwenog, Ciu-diganshirCt [ 
A qtta Vitm ; it is now known as Ffynon Gc/itt^t I 
i, €., the well of the house of sorrow. 

I doubt whether there is such a Welsh word usi 
Yr Eifl^ and even though there be, I doubt whether I 
it can^mean "The Fork/' The Fork is not at allf 
a name likely to have been applied to thrtt' hills ; 
it is a two-pronged instrument, that with thn 
prongs being quite a modern Invention. **Ytl 
efel," or ^* Yr efail,^' are derivations that imme-| 
d lately occur tp a Welshman, but both these again 
can only apply to two or a pair. The radical &r 
of these words has a ^, and ^tfdl^ or (y*/«i 
(cf. Lat, gtmdht*, Latin m becomes / or v 
Welsh), means a twin; gtfail is a pair of tones 3 
gefail ijnaxi^ nut^crackers, probably from gafoA^ 
to lay hold of. There is a Toit-yt'tfail in Glamo^ 
gan shire. Gafad^ a holding, is a word whicb 
found in a great number of names of places* 

One other attempt and I give up. Reading tbii 
article "Carnarvonshire" in the Penny Cydopftdii 
I find there are four hills or summits, \h.^ Craig 
Goch, Bwlcb Mawr, Oath Goch, Rivdl Apparentlj 
then this last name, which does not look roue 
like Webb, is not applied to three summitSj bu 
only to one. We have four summits hearing 
distinct names. The first means The Red '. 
(2) The Great Gap, (3) The Red Carn, or Heap 
Now, if two of these hilb are red, I conclude \ 
may be wrong, nsver kiving been there) that 
other two are red also. If sij, I should say ** RiTell^J 
is a corruption of the Welsh ** Rhufel," and deriv 
from " Rhttf," of a reddish hue. 

. J. C. Unnonk. 

Perhaps the following maybe acceptable to 1Mn 
Fallow, In parts of Canibridgesliire , * 1 

which are only used to give access to h- 
ture, or otherwise^ are themselves in gtiiaB 




DMtare ; Uiey ftre called ** droves," smd aometimes 
"driit-wajis which have l>eeii thought to he the 

(Oeromn trifl = pasture* This, I sec, ia not iin 
«x&ct pomlJet inasmuch as the two lunguages, 
Gcnuttn and English^ do not exist side by aide, 
like Mr. Fallow's Welsh and English* but it 
may bo tt?,eftil to him for all that. 
K a F. S. Wahren. M,A, 




^An ♦ x.w'i parallel to Mr. Fallo'w*8 instance of 

Yt Eifl " is to be found in PeBnell'a Hill, near 
Cftbi. Fen is the Celtic for hill ; to thia wilb 
added the Teutonic hull PenhuU wa.s corrupted 
to Pennell, tuid when the meaning of this word 
becMiic innignificitnt, a third hill wiis added. 

Other inift4inces are to be found in Farrar's 
Origin of LanffUOfftf p. 57, seq.; Max Miiller's 
Stimee of L(m{fua^ ii. 53<.v, aeq.; T. Taylor's 
JFi/rtU and Floftt^ p. 272, aeq» F* Storiu 

M»rtba rough. 

I have no doubt that the name of the famed 
5;«:iHr.vv FalK near Bettws y Coed, luis arisen from 
iij the oiigioAl Welah name. The pro- 
f the name Rhuiatir y Wmnol^ ^" the 
r of the Swallow/' is by no means obvious ; 
Ehaiadr Ewpx&g, ** the Fottming Cataract," 
quite apposite ; and the pronunciation uf the 
I two Welsh names is so similar that the snbBtitution 
f 009 for the other would he perfectly natural 


I hfg to add the inatances of Bhotover Hill^ near 

1 {ChdUau Ftfrt), which famous Robin Hood 

- necda have **8hot over"; beefeater (buffeti^); 

^COtlQtJj-daDce [canin-daiuii) ; and Wormwood 

(«»rmit<A), See Latham's Handbook of tAt Eng- 

ktk Language^ tifth edition^ pp. 121-124. 



Tn Eqcsstrian Statuk in Lricbster Squark 
W^ 8. ii 46.) — Cunningham says it was of 
George n., and was brought from Canons, the seat 
of tile Duke of Chandos, near Edgeware. Of the 
lalior ikct there can be no doubt, and thin may 
seiTe to est^iblish the identity. Cunningham Bays 
that the print of the Square^ 1754, in the edition of 
*^ of that year, is mihout the statue. There 
be no flppropriatenei«s ia placing George I. 
but George II., as Prince of Wales, lived 
in 1717, and in 1721 William, Duke of 
Brland, his son, was born there. If the 
Aiiais represented either of these, it would have 
htcn ftfiDropriate. Appropriate or not, however, 
il mofli bave been of George I., for in Brewers 
Middkmz it is said to be George I., and he is 
ilnijiliing Qknon.*; ; and John Timbs, CuHontiu 
^ Lmtdoft, p. 454, sayt distinctly it is a metal 
mofliU^' of George I., modelled by 

UBocikt: Uuke^ and brought from Canons 

in 1747, when it was purchased by the inhabitimts 
of the Square. It was " finely gilt." Is there any 
record of thii* purchase / This all seems so clear 
that we can scarcely doubt it. Does a sale cata* 
logue of the sale at Canons exist ? If the purchase 
can be established, how can we account for the 
statue not being erected in the Square till 1754, 
seven years later, as inferred by Cunningham above? 
Tlie history of this statue appears to be almost na 
curious as that of Charles X at Charing Cross. 
About the year 1 847, perhaps, Mr. Moxey, archi* 
tect of the Hall of Commerce, now Uie Consolidated 
Bank in the City, waa treating for the Square, and 
had absolutely acquired, or supposed he had 
acquired, the right to remove the statue, and he 
offered it to a mend of mine, who then lived at 
Victoria Grove, Stoke Newington, if he would cart 
it away ; he refused it, because he had only a snudl 
garden t^ put it into. Some years since, the figure 
was unhorsed on a certain Saturday night, and on 
the Sunday morning following I saw it lying on the 
ground, and entering the broken enclosure, I found it 
to be of had J and, nob knowing then anything of ita 
sculptor or modeller, C. Buchard, was struck by ita 
excellent workmanship. It soon after disappeared, 
and the riderless horse followed it perhnps a year 
later. I iiiive a print of it in its palmier days, appa- 
rently out of the EuToptan Mm^a'dne^ m which tnere 
were some excellent papers on London antiquitiei, 
written by Moser, under Bome such title as ** Col- 
lections and Recollections," which are well worthy, 
I should Bay, of being reprinted. The Square ia 
full of large trees, and the view is given for the 
sake of showing Hogarth's house, which was the 
north half of the Bidibniere Hotel. Very interest- 
ing was thiB house. Hogarth died in it, Kosciusko 
died in it, and the Counter Guiccioli resided there. 
The newly-built Tenison School, transplanted from 
Castle Stn?et, occupies the site, and is so well de- 
signed that I wish some correspoiident of" N. & Q." 
would name the architect. Was it Hayter Lewis I 

a A. Ward. 

Having, happily, got rid of *' this niece of sculp- 
ture," it is certainly desirable that the question of 
whom *Mt represented " should be set at rest. 

The matter has already been discussed at some 
length in the pages of " N. k Q." (3"! S. i. 217 ; 
ii. 150, 170, Am'; \^ S. v. 578; vi. 68), but aa 
doubts about it «tiU appear to exist, I repeat the 
authority I have l^efore cpioted, showing that the 
figure represented George I.: — 

**IIU** (George Il.'i) "«on Frederick affected tbe 
MQifl contradictory fondnees for his gmndfjLiher, aod 
erected tbe Btatoe of Georue I. in Leicester Reld», wid 
int^ r ' > '-',.. iii^ii come to the erown, to ptiLce a moait- 
iDc 1 raorrin St, Paar*.'* — Metnoirt a/ tkt Re^fffk 

o/ ' bj Horace WiUpole, vol. iii p. 315, A^ 





Father Krmule's Hax© (5*'^ S. ii. 44,)— This 
unfortunate priest was t>ot hanged in the reign of 
Charles L, as stated in the book quoted by Mr. 
Lknuian. The execution took place August 22, 
1679, at Widemarsh (not Hide Marsh}^ m the 
outskirts of Hereford^ when ho was fiir iidvaneed 
in years ; and 1 have repeatedly seen the Lnnive- 
»tone which covers his retiuiinB in the churchyard 
of Welsh Newton, on the confines of the counties 
of Hereford and Monmouth. His sole offence was 
the celebration of rnjiAs in the chapel of Pembridge 
Castle, at a short distance from his grave. Not 
many yeurs ao;o, a Roman Catholic tenant, who 
had occupied the castle as a farmhouse, on 
quitting it locked up the chapeU and carried away 
the key^ apparently m a kind of sacred truut. I 
?*hould much like to know, with your correspon- 
dent, where the hand of Father Kemble is now» 
Hia dying speech Is in my possession. I have 
seen it stated that Walton* has told us how tran- 
quiOy he suffered, with a reference to the Compldc 
A ngltr^ but I can find no notice of it in that book. 
Can any of your readers give me information about 
the '* Kemble pi^jc '■ and ** Kemble cup" ? It is a 
Badly interesting story* T* W. Webb, 

Lunar Rjukbow (5^S. i, 427.)— The phenome- 
non described may not be a rainbow, but a hido. 
The conditions under which a rainbow is formed 
are the same for the lunar as fof the solar kind : 
the si>ectator has his back towards the luminary, 
nnd the bow is defined against the clouds opposite. 

Lunar rainbows appear very rarely ; one Wiis 
»eeo in Birmingham by the present writer about 
thirty years ago ; it wai^ au arc of white light» 
slightly tinged in parts with the prismatic colours, 
and was formed against a dark mass of clouds 
i^}jHy$itc the moon, which shone in & clear »pace of 
blue sk^'. S. FoxALL. 


I have at different times seen as many as a 
dozen lunar rainbowR, suid I have never had the 
slightest difficulty in deciding what they were. A 
lunar rainbow, when it occurs, is as easily recog- 
nized as a solar one ; the principtil difference 
being ihb, that the lunar bow is ver}' faint us 
compared with the f^olar one, and the colorrs are 
not very distinct, Besides, your correspondent 
speaks of the phenomenon he T^itnessed as ctu:om- 
^(is$ing ihQ moon, an altogether imfmsBible position 
fur a rainbow. Rainbows, both solar and lunar, 
are invariably directly opposite the lummary by 
whose rays they are caused ; and the spectator 
necessarily turns his liack t^ the sun or Uioon, as 
the case may be, when looking fuH-faco u|K>n the 
luinbow. Wljat Mr. HKnui^fo saw wiw, no donbt, 
ji lunar halo, a phenomenon altogether distinct 
from the rainbow. Joa, BrM£s, 

I saw a similar phenomenon from Teddinct^n 
on the llih or 12th of April, but the 
covered with a ver)^ thin, transparent, lofi 
favourable to halo, lunar or solar. In Lon^i^m I 
should Imve calleil it a cloudless ^br ; and it 
doubtless was an unu-sually fine display of halo. 

Having seen a lunar rkinbow in the Vale of thd' 
Severn two yeai's ago, I think I - ' wiy, 

without pretending to be scientlti n is 

essential to its formation ; and thou- u il u<M.3notl 
eidiibit the seveml colours of the spectrum, no] 
pturtake of the gmnd projiortion.s of the N>lar arch| \ 
it is, nevertheless, otherwise subject to the Biums 
natural laws of refraction and refiecnitn of ilvj? ott 
drops of falling rain, and coniietpient u to, 

and not encircling of, the planet, n 1 by 

Mr. Hebhino. L. H. H. | 

What your correspondent saw was not a luita 
rainbow, but a paraselene — false moon beside tl 
true moon. A lunar rainbow is similar to a eoh 
rainbow, only the colours are so faint as to 
acsrcely visible* I have seen botk 

^^ Margery Mar-Prrlat" (5»^ S. i. 48a.)— laj 
addition to the tiuct named by Mr. Hailstoj 
I have copies of the two following : — 

1. "A Sermon Preached in London hy l 
Minleter of Christ. And Perfected hy UStti 
ftot forth to the puljliko View of «l), for tbe J 
of the Truth, and cleftrtnfr the Innoccncrc ot hi 
inffering for it Acta 5, 29. We oaght to tA 
rather than men. Printed by Jtargery Mat' 

2. "Vox Borcalls or The Northern Discoverfe: 
Way of Dialo^e betireen Jumie and Willie " 

3. *'Amid*t the Eabyloniftn*. Printed, by Manteiy M«r- 
ProUt« in Thwackcttat-Laoe, sit the Signo of the Cn*^ 
tree Cadgell, without any priviludge, of the Onter^Ui] 
the yeare coming oiij 1041. ' 

These three tracts are evidently frr^m oi 
printing press; they are very peculiarly firtnt'. 
and the type is rude and remarkrtV>le. 1 ' II 

tract {Vojr B&realu) is a scurrilous atta d| 

bLshopSi and characterized by all the \ ii)It!Uc*} ai 
bittfjrnoas of language of the Mar-Prelate tracts 
the sixteenth centurj-, I give the following 
dress, *' The Printer to the Reader;' in order 
explain to Mr. Hailstone the reason why tl 
printer aiisumed the name of ^Margery Alar-Pi 
lat :— — 


Mftrtin Mar PrcUt was a bonny Ijid, 

lit* brave adventares iiiJide the Prelate mud ; 

Thui^'li hfr le dc:wi Yct he Imth left bcWiid 

A <• -ind. 

y, *ny haaio. 

As wv.a ».^ .... :.-. . .. .^ i. . , loiU to paaM I 

Tell not tbe Itii^liops, iind you'a know her Kamtf^ 

Margery Mar-Prelat, of renowned f^iue. 

Bat now, alag, what will tbe Prcbita doel 

Her Tippit 'a loose, and Boreas 'gins to blow ; 

»• a. II. Aon. 1, 74-1 




fihv«1 *ro\i\t\ in Fritit ; who1« Volum^i till ihey roarer 
* ' fco them strangled in tbcir goarc ; 

- blowtt, ehet'i put hu Wind in Print, 
Life to strike their latall dint; 
much for South, for Eai?t, or West, 
. \tiiturc to blow at tb<» tieasi: 

ihe Winds should jovne ai one, 
nee on tb*t cursed Throne; 
t > »ee that huppy diiy, 
tied to blow^the BetiBt awny; 
h E«nai forth u luBty gale; 
:^, and goc hoyit up Sayle : 
ve you to the Romij^h C^oaat, 
- 1- . ihe Pope will be your Host/' kc. 




Tile W 

Bow ( 
A ': 

I doiibt whether any information can now be 
grrea na to the printer or publisher* They w^ere 
c*iriiiefitl)r privately printed. About ihia period 
»iome of i\w fcixuienth-centurj Mar-Pi-elat* Tracts 
v*vr*? n>priiite<l by the Paritiin party, in order to 
excite hostility agjiiost the biijhopg, One^ "A 
DiiUogue wherein is Phiioly Libido open, the ty- 
raninculi deaJing of Lord Bishops figaiDst Goers 
cbrjdtvn/ &c,, which fint appeared about 1580, 
wiw reprioted in 1C40. On a (ireful examination 
of the type and printing of thi^, I think there ia 
Mft doubt but that it proceeded from the same 
the thre€ named above as ** printed by 
f Mar-Prekt.'' George W. Napiek. 
•y Edge. 

C^BAALKS 1. AS A PoET (o^^ S. i. 3ii2, 379, 436). 
^Mft, TnoaxBUHY evidently iridorc>e^ the view 
that King Charles waa " wectk and vaoiliutin|(/' 
Of bb ** weaknetis," ia there the sli^ditest evidence 
ffsoopt what IB baBe<l upon ]mrty and sectarian 
fmaooQT ? As to his *^ vacillation/' the extremely 
difficult circtM'-^^ -v-^ in which he waa placed la 
complHe }m r any hesitation he niii^ht 

exhibit ; for i.^ ..,..; .i and not vacillation is the 
ironi tbftt ought to be applied to Kin;^ Chfiiles's 
ct>Qduct^ and neaitation is generally the offspring 
of c««ition and wisdom, and, in hia case^ there can 
b* CO dniibt that it wajs so. It was very easy for 
Or' be very determined, when a cunnin;^, 

lit ^ntTons man like him had a strong pack 

of I I ics at his back, rwidy to do hia 

bill t consisted in putting a king to 

dcifctli, "T ill Li^ iiieriug successive Parliaments, — 
when thr.^e Parliaments found to their surprise that 
tied with due respect, a« they 
irles and King James, ac- 
.^viin uf the English Constitution, 
but were struck down at once and extinguished by 
of military usurpation, despotism, 
ambition. As for Cromwell's bo- 
fortign adminiatratiottT it simply 
the iuit that, by his military 
xrmtnUnt ihc English people, without 
nt, to pay to him 
purpo««, and which 
j ChArkki and King James could never 
ooxutittztioQal m£afu. King Charles 

had better objects in view than what any mere 
military usurper like Crorawell cotild have : he 
(Charles) wiahed to reign constitutionally if he 
(x>ssibly could, and "hesitated'^ to do anything 
which seemed to run count-cr to the constitution, 
even w*hen strongly provoked to do so by the 
cunnm!.*. knavery, and uns^cupulousnesB of bi« 
0] n wilfully perverting and migapplyiog 

c 1 id rules and forms. 

In bhurt, King Charles was a man of the 
greatest honesty, ability, firmness, and accomplish- 
ments, placed in the most trying circumstances, 
through which he bore himself with the utmost 
dignity. Hewrt Kiloociu 


The Evil Eye (5* S. L 324, 374.)— This snprar- 
Btition is also alluded to by Persius, Hat, ii. ;^ 
** Ecce arui, ant meiuens diruni ni&iertora, cania 

Exemit puenimf froatemquo {lique uda lube 11a 

Infanii digito tt luetrahhai ante ftalivii 

Expiai, unntu oculot tjUt&ere ptrilaJ' 


Athenieam Glab. 

Dr. William VAUonAN akd Sib Hkkht, M.D. (4*'' S. iv. 20.)— A writer signing 
himself Tbwars impugns Mr. Grosart's accuracy 
in numbering WUliam Vaughan amongst the an- 
cestor** of the late Sir Henrys Htdford, the celcbrat-ed 
physician. He observes : ** It is notorious that 
bir Henry Haiford's father. Dr. Vaughan, was the 
son of an auctioneer of humble origin"; and he 
refers to the Oetitkvum^s Maga^ine^ May, 1844, 
p. 534. Mr. Grosabt is unquestionably right. 
It ia not a fact that Sir Henry Halford's father, 
Dr. Vaughan, was the son of an auctioneer, or of 
any person of humble origin. His birth and 
baptism under the name of Jjimeft (Vaughan) took 
place at Leominster in 174<). He was the son of 
Henry Vaughan, a surgeon in that town, whose 
father, Henry Vaughan, had been for many years 
vicar of the parish, being himself the son of Dr. 
William Vaughan, of whom Anthony Wood gives 
some account in hh Athena: Oxonuatef. The 
statement in the Gaitleman'i Magazint is possibly 
a misprint ; certainly it baa no foundution in fact. 
Since the error of the Gcnthiitnn'fi Muijiixinf ia so 
confidently endorsed as truth by Tewars, it needa 
correction all the moiv. 

Upton Ctatle, Pembroke. 

Abbrbviatbd Placb-Namks (5*^ S. i. 146.)— 
Pampisford (Cambridge), Paunser, A Cambridge 
Fellow, riding to do duty at this place, and not 
being sure of his road, inquired of nearly every 
one he met hii* way to " Pam-pi^-ford." But no- 
body had ever heard of such a place in all Ids 
life. Accordingly the bewildered Fellow rode for 
many miles till he came \Hv\ft % e^tVaaac^ V^iCsaM^ 
There, fortune beVii^ gwdom \» \;wss\yt v<^v vwb 



[S'^aiLAuQ. 1,71. 



usual query to an individual of superior intelli- 

?mce, who straiebtway answered — ** Oh, you mean 
aunxcr; why this is Paunser!" and "Paunser" 
sure enough it was. C, F. S. Wahrkn, M,A. 
EllersUe/ EerhQI, Hoatingf. 

GholmonJely, Clmmly; Cliolmondeatone, Cliumstoo; 
Davedl^mm, Duneliam ; Ringwa>% Run^ (g «<*f ; Wen* 
Torhum, Warchain; WildbottTclouRh, Wilbercluf ; M&c- 
cktfieldj Muifield (by some old peordo. and need to be so 
spelt), ichflahire). Wavertree, Wartry (Lancaaliire)* 
ATcbury, Abury (Wilta). Churchdown, Chosen (Glou- 

RoBKRT Holland. 

Averham^ Alrham j Southwell, Suthell ; Cortlingstock, 
Cofltock (Notta). BcWoir, Be«v«jr ; Croxton, Croxcn : 
Quoradon, Quom (Leioesterflbire). PelmcrBJiam, Fen- 
ah»m ; Pjireiihain^ Pacion ( Bed ford aM re}. Bicester, 
Bbtcr (O^con.J. Roth well, Row ell (Nortbainptonshire)* 
Uttoxetcr. Utclieter ^StaffonWiirc) ; Hawarden, Harden 
(FOntahire) ; Launceflton, Laanceton {Cornwall)* 


8. Collingharo, Newark, 

Wedncsfield, Wcdgefield; St. Tbomas, Sentimus (Staf- 
foFdflbirc|. Ilopwaa^ Uoppua; Alrewas^ Arlu« ; Build- 
was, BuilduB (SbropBhire). Temple BnUall. Bussle 
Temvl^ (Warwiokahire). AlfreBton, Arfaton (Sum^x). 
Leckbaropton, Lackington (Gloucestershire), Ditvetitry, 
Daintry (Nortbamptonshirt'). Sltttigbani, SUffliam (Sus- 

AY. J, Brrkhard Smith, 


Rocester, Roeatcr (Staffordsbire). Tideswell, Tidaa 
(DorbyBbire). Wolitunton, Ussiton (StaffordBbire). Wy- 
bunbury^ Wimbry ^CbeiMre), 

a w. N. 

Alderley Edge. 

I send the following from our district (Craven) : 
Appletreewick^ Aptrkk ^BomoldBwick, Barlick ; Grass- 
ingtou, Giriton ; ilalham, Maum. 

Stephen Jackson. 

Milton's **L'ALLEaRQ" (5"» S. i. 406,)— I 
think there can be no doubt sl& to Milton*a mean- 
ing in the Hne^ — 

" And every sbepherd tells his tale,'* 
though Mr. Ainoer is loth to give up the poetical 
idea of the lovers for the more prosaic one of 
eounting tht she^p. It should be borne in mind, 
tirsfc, that the verb "to tell^' was ordinarily used 
in Milton's time, instead of the more modem word, 
" to count.'' Thus in the Patdms— " Thou tdhd 
my flittings'^; " He kUdh the numbex of the stars/' 
&c. To this day a shepherd would say of his 
»heep, " They was all right last night when I told 
'giu/' Such a man would have no doubt as to the 
meaning of the line in question. But Udte the 
context, aa Mr. Ainger proposes, Milton is 
describing an English landscape, such as, with 
little excc'ption, we may see now, with the usual 
incidents. Now, after picturing the ploughman, 
the milkmaid, and the mower, engaged in their 
jteremlrml occupations, it is as diflifult to imagine 

the poet suddenly jumping, in the case of 
shepherd^ to an i4mL one, as it is to suppose that*^ 
every such person should be making love when ' 
ought to be tending his shrep. Milton was 
well luxjuainted with England (not Arcadia) 
make such a nusUtke, and properly reservoe Uie 
pastime for the rustic holidnv that follows. 

T. L Beknett. 

Abcheu Family (5** S. IL 2L)— -Thomas I> 
Archer, parson of Elmsett (co. Stiff.), in 4th of 
Edward III., held one-third part of the lordahip 
of the mant>r of Bricett Magna (co. Suff.), Bf 
imd Richard his brother, in 1330, presented to the 
church of Ridleswortb (co, Norf.), and held that 
manor, which they seem to have inherited in right 
of the heiress of the house of Bathonia, or Hathun* 

The east window of the south chaj>el of the 
church of Thaxted (co. Essex) contained the anna 
of the Archer family \ ermine, a cross, sable. 



Water-marks (5*'" S. i. 88.) — By consultiog^ 
Sotheby's Frinnpia Tfpoffraphica, Mr. Js 
may find information a*? to the water- marka 
early paper-makers, Gaston db Bkrneval, 

*^ Little monitor from TttKE,** &c. (5**» S. iL\ 

47.)^ — The lines here quoted — ^not qu;^ t 
are a portion of a "posy" or inKi i 
amongst others, was frecjuently prin(«M >- 
years ago on the '* watch papers," which were at J 
that period uaualiy inserted between the inner and 
outer cases of watches. The whole runs as foliowi:- 
*' Little monitor impart 

Some inatniction to tbc beart. 

Shew the buiy aod tbe gay 

Time la baf tiag swift away ; 

Pleasure cannot long ondnre. 

Life 'a uncertain, death ia eure. 

Hftpny they who wisely learn 

Truth from error to diacem ; 

Truth immortal aa the aod. 

Firm enduring as the pole/' 

I do not know who is the author of the lineB. 

J. A. PtcTour* 

Sandy knowe^ WaTertrec. 

An eld eriy lady, although on this side fou 
has pleasure in putting into my hands, from thil 
oiemoriids of her chUdbood, the answer to Z. Z.*sJ 
elder lady- friend's asking : — 

"To MY Watch. 

Little monitor ! by thee 

Let me learn what 1 abould be : 

Learn thi« round of Life to fill, 

Useful nnd pr^greadfe stUi. 

When I wind Thee up at nighty 

Mark each fault and aet Thee right ; 

Let me search my bosom too„ 

And my daily tboaghta review ; 

Mark each movement of my mind ; 

Nor be eai»y when 1 find 



«»8. lUAoo. 1,'74.] 


H Latent ern^rfl riae to Tiew, 

^ Till all be regulix and true/' 

I remember it nniong children's current poetry 
eaiiy in the centiuy, but not the name of the 
writer, which, I think, went with it. Erem, 

fA, C, tends the above rendering from ** The 0<rVt 
Wmk'D^y Bookf hj Dorothy White, " but trith the two 
l(>llowiiig lines interpolated after the fourth :— 
H *' Thou canst useful hints impiirt 

H^ How to reguhkte the heart. '] 

H[^ A»i> woiTDER," Ac (5«» 8. il 470— This luae 
^FsfinxM run — 

■ •* And wonder with a fooU»b face of praise." 

H II ts in the well-known satire on Addlaon by 

■ Ptope. W. W. 

•'Tbe Savage** (oti^ 8. i, 4SD.)— The author 
iVMi John Robinson, a native of the eastern part 
of Tennessee. He was born in 17^2. In early 
life he became involved in a fight, originating in 
political tiifferencen, and killed a man^ which 
cftttsed him to leave the State and remain away 
for several years. It is many years since I read 
tlleie eesajs, bitt my impression is that they dis- 
pliy much originality and vigoar of mind, but 
arte tinctured with sceptical opinions, not incon- 
tifltent with the character of an Americin Indian, 
imiixied by the writer. He died in Tennessee 
thoat the year 1833, in a house in the woods, 
Voilt for him by the students of Tusciilimi College, 
end U buried at Greene ville, Tenn., the residence 
of ex* President Andrew Johnson. A second edi- 
iioD of Tht Sav4ig€ was published at KnorviUe, 
TeniL, in the year 1835. Unsda. 



'*Lk pRocfes DEs Trois Rois" (5*^ S. i. 468.)— 
Tbit curious French tract inquired after is usually 
^" fibttted to Bontfonidor {vide Barbier) ; but in 
David^s careful hibliogmphy, appended to an 
edition of Linguet's Mrmoires sur la Ba^Hlh^ 
which appeared in the BiblioUiique Natioiiah in 
1866, the work is attributed to that author. 

William E. A. Ajcos. 

Tins Music to '* Macbeth " (5"^ S. i, 486.)— 
I write not to disprove wliat Mr. C. Wylie has 
wKtten, ^jetause if the music to Macbtih was first 
n»'rfoMw»^d in 1672, that fivct puts Richard Lev^ridge 
virt, as be is naid to have been born in 
U 1 finii this in The Imperial XHcti^marti 
€»/ ' raphy (Mackenzie, London), su\ 

f*f ' . — 

* in Eowe'e edition of Shahpcarft the masic of Mae* 
iiCi it mid to have been »ei by Lereridge. Thia ia the 
tJiafming witcb- music which has so long passed current 
a<i Uw wip otttion uf Matthew Lock.'* 

Aed« nth rcct " Lock" :— 

•Th« *rudo and wild excellence' of his music to 
JftfeMA U a cooftant theme of admtratton bv mtuieal 
•ad bittonaiit. Bat unfortunatetj Look'i music 

ie lo§t. That so popularly known, and for whieh he ^ta 
credit, is the compofiiiion of Kichard Leveridge^ thirty 
yewra later." 

Falm^im qiti 'mtruit^ fmrai. Dates, like facts, 
are stubborn things, and biographers should heed 
both. It may be right to add that the above 
biographies are both written by ** E. F. R." 


The Sfbstittttion of "l" axd **w" for 
*' R " (5*»» S. i. 481.)— The substitution of w for r 
is usualiy owing to organic defect or inveterate bad 
habit. But it i^ seldom a distinct i^ that is 
uttered. An indescribable soft guttural, which 
no combination of letters (unless, perhaps, ^^»jI?) 
could represent, is heard in place of r. Many 
schoolboys may recall the sentence fabricated 
in ridicule of this failing : — ** Jnchuird hit 
H'obetrt," &c. A gentleman who idolized Lord 
Byron's poetry had displayed his devotion by 
writing some verses addressed to him, and some 
wags of my acquaintance amused themselves by 
getting him to recite his venses, which began — 
*' Impeiriiil mileie of the trealmt of wime." 

S. T. P. 

" Brttisfi and Contdtental Titles of 
Honour '' (5*^ S. ii. 23.) — It is by no means ** a 
vulgar error to suppose that a commoner may not 
be noble." The eldest son of an earl (to take an 
extreme case) is certainly not noble, by the 
common law of Engknd, in the lifetime of his 
father ; for, if he commit felony, he will not be 
tried by the House of Lords, or the Court of the 
Lord High Steward, but by a juiy. Why \ Be- 
cause be is not "the peer" of a Lord of Parlia- 
ment. On the other liand, he m the peer of any 
common jurj'-man ; else is Magna Chart a broken. 
This being so, how can he be said to be *' noble " i 
** The commoners, though some are greatly superior 
to others, yet all are, in kw, peers, in rt$p^t of 
their imnt of nobUityS—2 Co. Imt,^ 29. 

Middle Templar. 


The Blessed Thistle (5*»» S. iL 48.)— Tlie 
legend that the white streaks on the leaf of the 
Carduus b^aitu came from the milk of the Blessed 
Virgin is common in many parts of England. 
Miss Yonge's Herb of the Field (Mozley) will 
give information on this and other plants named 
after Our Lady and the saints. 

E. L. Blenkinsopp. 

^'A Vallomrbosian Nuk" (5^»» S. iL 34. W- What 
does the author of iSacred oitd Ligenmnj Art 
mean by this tenn I I am well acquainted with 
Vallombroaa, and I never heard of any nunfi either 
there or near it. The convent (now dissolved) was 
q/ccupied by monks, Yallombrosa lias tiow ^ v^t^ 
comfortable hoteL ^ atair ^^jry.t \>vxw&. 



[^ S, TL AcG, 1, •I?. 

The Beig " Temi-le," of London (S^"* S. iL 28), 
208 tons, built at IpBwich in 1815, was owned 
by John Bourke Ricketts, of LejukuliaU Street, 
London, and Charles Nichoks Pallraor, Norblton 
House, KingBton-upon-Thames. The following 
notice appears in '* Lloyd's Lbt " of 30th June^ 
1829 :— 

" The 'Temple/ Midwinter, from Jamaica to London, 
was wrecked on the night of the 30th Apnl, off the oast 
enid of Caymftnes. Cnw and pari of the cargo tavetL" 

Brecknock Rood. 

"When York to Hj£Aven** {5^ S. ii 47,)— 
The lines qnotcJ hy T, W. W. S. Wong to the 
liteniture, not of the seventeenth, but of the 
eighteenth century. They were written by the 
Duke of Wharton, Foss (Judges of England^ 
p. 245) quotes the line about Tracy differently 
from T. aV, W, S., thus — 

" When Trncy'fl gencroua soul shall sarell with pride.** 
I have not seen a copy of Whiirton^a poems, 
therefore I cannot any whid!i is the more correct 

All the persons named in the lines were judj^es, 
except Hungerford. Parker, of course, was Lord 
Mftcele afield, the well-known Chancellor. Pratt^ 
King, and Eyre, were the Chief Justices of the 
three Courts. Biogniphiea of aU may be found in 
Fosr's Jndge^^ of Entjlnnd. 

John HuQ^erford was a lending banister, and 
counsel to the Ef^t India Company. He repre- 
sented Scwborough as a Tory, from April, 1692, 
to Msirch, 1605, when he was expelled tlie house ; 
again from 1702 to 1705 ; and finally from Novem- 
ber, 1707, until his de^th (June 8, 1729), 

ALrRED B. BeaveNj I^LA. 


Lord Colltkowood (5'^ S ii. 48.)— He was of 
Northumberland family, and hia great-great-gnuid- 
father, Ralph CoUingwood, married the niece of 
Anthony^ Knrl of Kent, seventh in descent from 
Joan Pliintjij^enet, the Fair Maid of Kent, who 
waj* wife of the Black Priuce, He went to scliool, 
at Newcastle, with Lord Stowell and Earl Eldon, 
Hia brother was Capt. Wilfred CoUingwood, of 
the ** Rattler.'*^ He married Miss Saruli Blackett, 
daughter of Q. C. Blackett, of Newcastle, and had 
two daughters, Sarah and Mary Patience. In 
8iU<itioiia from ike Public and Private Corrc- 

r^ndenc^ of Vim^ Admiral Lord CoUingwood^ 
Ridgway, Piccadilly, 182!), a great u umber of 
the lettets are nddre^saed to his* father-in-law. 
Mary Patience married Anthony Denny, Esq., 
Rnd died in 1822 ; and Sarah married G. L. 
Newnh&m CoUingwood, Esq., F.R.S», who pub- 
Hfihed the selection abore niuned* 

C. A, Wahd. 

A brother of Lard (>llingwood lived at Churton, i 
near North Shields ; his son now Uvea at Lilburn j 
Tower. One daughter married the Rer. Chri?-- 
topher Reid, Vicar of Tynemouth ; the other, I 
John Frederick CoUingwood^ Esq., of G]antoti| 
Pyke, aU in Northumberland. 

E. L. Blestkiktbofp. 

Shirlet Family (5"» S. i. 248, 294, 477 jj 
ii. 76.) — Lady Anne Shirley, fourth danghter or 
Robert^ first Earl FeiTers, by hh Countess, SelioA 
Finch, was born at Staunton Howard May 24,1 
1708. and married May 15, 1721)» Sir Robert I 
Fumese, of Waldershare, in Kent, Baronet. Sb«' 
died Febmary 25, 177D, ami wa^j buried ui 
GrosTenor Chapel, South Andley Street, London. 
Ev. Ph. Shirlet. 

The name of the Baronet ivho married Anne, , 
daughter of the first Earl Ferrers, wan Sir Robert-j 
Furnese. Burke (who, by the way, is focilc pri'n-»| 
ctps amongst incorrect compilers) makes hira M PrJ 
for Brt\mber in 1698, confounding him with hisl 
father, Sir Henry. Sir Robert entered Parliamentj 
iis M.P. for Truro in December, 1708, sat fof^ 
Romney from 1710 to 1727, and for the countj^ 
of Kent from 1727 until his death in 1733. 

Alfred B. Beaven, M.A. 

LoNi>ON Companies, or Guilds (5** S. iL 48lJ 
— A complete li^t, with the date of Incorporatioa 
the situation of the hall, where any exists, and th 
amount of Uverj^ fine, will be fimnd in Noorthouck^ 
History of London^ 4to., 1773, p. 887. 

Virion Niohtoit. 

TiNTRftN Abbkt (5*^ S. ii. 28, 75.)— Mb- Mac 
kenzie Walcott is wrong in his statement (" 
there is no local handbook to Tintern Abbey* 
have myself written one, contjwning many fi*shl| 
gathered details, including, for the firat 
accurate dates of the erection of the Abb- 
the ruins of which constitute the chief rtnun 
the monastery. The title of the work is 
Abbey and its Founders. It was reviewed 
Athtm<mim of August 6, 1670, and ha« reached a 
second edition. Johx Tavloe. 

BHstol Moseum and Library. 

Tjie Emperor Alexander IL (5**^ S. I 4fT4 \ 
il 36, 55, 72.)^'nie argument adducod by A- '" 
that the EussiaQ claims to be the suooeesa 
of the Cji&sars as connected by marriage with 
Byzantine Emperorfl, is certainly in favour of lh« 
theory, but I think the arguments in mj 
letter apply to it. 

I ilo not wish to deny the assertion mnd^ 
B, Y. H., that the form Czar has been in oso 1 
fifty years, as age is no excuse for tm error, j 
the PoUsh BpeUing would naturaUy be the 
to reach Europe, and Russians wottM be os fooH 

9* & IL Acq. 1, 7i.] 



to feel inmlled by such an error, as EngUshinen 
wmM be it Ihey took offence at the " Lord Cllad- 
fltolM^* and ** Sir Disraeli" of aomo igtiomnt French 
atMrgpapen. The title of the heir-apparent is 
Mfmdy derived from that of the Tsar, and would 
hwra been in ose as long as the hitter, and it is 
hoUh wriiteti and pronounced Tsftrtvitch^ und not 
l^MMieTYtch or Cesan^v'it-eh. I am pleased to iind 
Ifctt B. Y. H. su^^reea with me in deriving it from a 
nmk'Arjiin root^ but I CJinnnt accept his theory, 
Khii^ar beinn;^ I believe, not a titles but the naoie 
of a nirt\ wlia were almost o€3rt^unly not Tatars, 

T y of foreignerB to hear or pronotinoe 

tbtf ihing at Ijia end of many Russi&n 

words u «b tiominon source of ainiiBement among 
Busiians, and B. Y. H seems to be no exception 
to the rule ; but can he perceive no dilierence 
(<|UoUng his own exiuuple) between nn and unc f 
I W3Mi eertainlj not thinking of the lines which he 
quot4^, and am weU aware that Tsaria is in the 
I Czarieh would represent no form 
im acfjuainted). 

* translatioDf^of Russian official d»cu- 

loriously inaccuniU'. I have a large 

^ ..,_-..,..,..-. .... ^, .,.,.. ^ plunil 
not end in kia^ but in klUi). 
V. H,'fl last sentence, I ain at a los!i 
(o conainie it. If he thinks that '' veliela" (why 
tbi fipmlnin^ I) can govern the nominative "^ tche* 
}&mkf*^ be b mnch ntbtaken : nor is the '' t '' at 
tfaie end of the verb ^' priiti *' abaolutely fanltlees. 
I Imow TciT well that Runflian has no article and 
tJiai Sugliui hoAf but I cannot see the bearing of 
thnee fectd on this question. At all events, sen- 
tences in very doubtful Enssian are not calculated 
•o ctnsagthcm the wiit^-^s authority on difficult 
fslllte In one of the harda^t lan^^niageft of Europe. 


The B.vltimorb and **Old Mortalitt'* 

Patbrsows (4"* 8. vi, vii. p<Ufim,)—ln " K. & Q." 

roruo v« ir^ aL'o. I i^ve some curious infomiatton 

ily of *'01d MortiJity/^ inves- 

f the statement, which had been 

. that M.idanie Jt^rome Bonaparte, 

svr\^ drerr^nded from John, the eldest 

■ '■" I showed, by a letter 

!^. vii, 218), a friend of 

I .elieved her ancestora 

, and that they were 

h till? Scottish PaterB(»fi!<, 

lied (1874), LHUrg //> JHs 

" ' ntouj D.JJ,^ with a 

MJer Anderson, WeM 

To W m Baltimore, was conrlcoosly pennitted lo 

examine the will of Madame Jert'ime's father, I 
quote the following pcuoogo from the memoir, 
whioli sets the question forever at rest : — 

*'The Rev. Nathaniel Pat^rwn, a son of Dr Pateivon, 
ATid minister in Martin Town, Oan&dai visHed BaUimore 
last autainn, found Mr. Pennington, the Uwjisr who 
drew out the will of Miwlame Buonaparte's father, and 
wftA peimitted to exftmino it for himself. From Ihie 
doc anient, which is prefaced hy & iliurt autobiography 
of the testntor, it atmears that Matiiinie Botmpurte'^ 
f&ther'e name was William ; that he was a natiro of 
Tanot, County Donegal, Ireland, and brought up in ctnk' 
nextoii with ti»e Episcopal Choreh. After aettltiitr in 
Baltimore', he h&d foren sone and one dauiehter, whoiu 
he mention* nmler the name of Betsy, and us the wife of 
Jcrcjune Botmpartc?, There Beoma no reason to doubt the 
statement made in the will, efpecially ia view of the 
scanty evidence for the truth of the ttory oo long and 
io widely circulated." 

C. T. Bjmaqz. 

Interted CoMitAS (.*)**» S. tp<usim; ii. 37» 56.) 
Sotting aside former examples, 1 atill feel no doubt 
that in all good modem usage inverted commaa 
iviptjt a quoUtion at ]east ; and this is the only 
modification suggested by Jadez's remarks. Tbo 
quotation he gives from the Times seems to me 
quite t^ iliuBtmte this. The commas no doubt 
import a sneer more or less. But they also, I have 
no doubt^ taking this example, mean this : " The 
education may V>eeomo vhat we have so o/t4m ietn 
dMicrihtd at lest accompiuM, but not therefore,** 
&c» A rtfermuia ib intenied, and so, I believe, it 
always ie. Lttteltok. 

"Like" as a Covjuvcrtov (6* S. L 67, 116, 
157, 176, 237, 498.)— Here is a clear i;istance from 
the Shakspeare part of Hennj VIIL The Duke 
of Norfolk says to the Duke of Buckingham,^ — 
*' Not a man In England 
Can advise me like you/' — 
that is, ** like you can advise me.** It ia true that 
here too is the shrinking from setting the verb 
after tike^ which I noticed l»efore ; but that /tl'€ is 
here a conjunction, and not a preposition, b nn* 
deniable. F. J. FdRNtVALL, 

P.S. — As the great authority with whom I am 
at iflsue on the point will not iwlmit the above 
instance,— he says you is in the ' .^com- 

pare **like him." I add an inconti : ince of 

the conjunctival use of Hke, which .^^cuimut ?j excel- 
lent ShaJcspere- Lexicon referred me to :— 

"Andkm^ ' kingdom i^ without a head — 

l,iit gi I z$. left without a roaf. 

Soon fhl your noble self. * . . 

We thua »ui>[uit lUiio,— our aovcreigu.*' 
PericUa, I. iii* M, 
(Not S^ ' re* port : probably WilkJna'a.) 

Thid coTifi 1 i lanation of the conjunctivaf 

use of the adv( m nrr, from ^^ a^^^-:.. - rfthe i# 
tiuit followed it. and its cor of the 

function of a*; just as in *.*. — ,....,, ihe odv 
Hht lakes the prepottUoutiX loTca. c»l to* ^ 's^ 



[5" S. U. At;a. 1, 74. 

" N. ife Q/' men again for other early instances of 
conjunction like^ witli tlie verb ejcpresst, 

F, J, F. 

Words AND Phiubes Prevale:kt in Ulster 
(B^ S» i. 245^ 374.)— I hATe been accuatomed to 
hear Ulster people use the word " Bcddy ^ from 
my earliest recofiectbns, and never with but one 
meaning, and that none of those given by your 
correspondentis, or the authorities whom they 
quote. The sense in which I Imve heard it usod 
lA somewhat akin to muaj^ yet not in the sense of 
boldness or forwardness, but ralher negntively or 
defensively ; thus, a menial scn-ant who would 
reject food served up a second time, on the ground 
that it was not good enough for him^ would be 
considered very " beddy." 

Gigit (I am not certain of the orthography) is 
another Ulster word, which signifies elated with 
the novelty of anything. It may be a corruption 
of gigUt or giglot^ giddy, light, inconstant. 

Gaston de Beritbval, 


"Crack" (5^^ S. i. 124, 175, a32.)-It is 
evident, us Mr. Wedgwood has pointed out, 
that I was i^Tong in suggesting, without qualifica- 
tion, that the word '* wag " was an abbreviation of 
** wagtidl." 1 have since met with another pas* 
flage oonfirming Mr. Wedgwood's derivation of 
it firom " waghalter " ♦ :— 

*' Ohp thoa onftj wMitrijtg, 
And could'flt thou thii§ demde me i " 

Heywood'fi '' EDgli^li TnTeUer/' in 
Diike's Old Hays, vi. 206. 

I cannot, however, help thinking that the word 
^' wag^ is sometimes an abbreviation of ^^ wagtail.'^ 
In a coU«ctioiL of sketches of Dutch life and 
manners, entitled the Camera Obsaira, by Hilde- 
brand (Nicolaua Beets), fifth edition, pp, 252-261, 
I find a gentlemaji, by name Heer Wiigestert 
(Mr, Wagtail), invited to a dinner-party, to enter- 
tain the company with very indifferent jests and 
jokes; in fact, he exactly correajxindH to the 
Mr. Wagg of Peiidtmtit. Now 1 cannot think 

* Dor anoflctort were singuliu'ly fond of tfaeta oom- 
pliment&ry aUurions to the gallowi. Thus we bare 
** wa^balter," " wagBtring/' "cruckrope/' •* crwckhemp/' 
^g&lfowfl-birdj" wLicli ln«t we §tili ratajn. Betitlen tlie<»ef 
in Fletcher alone I find *' rope runner "— 
*' Stand farther, friend ; I do not like your rope-runnera.*' 

Coxcombf ii. 9. 

AIbo "elipstring " and " haltcrstck/' in Kin^ and no 
Kinft. il % 

*' nope^runner," I concsire, menns " one who has run 
away from tlie rope "; " slipstring " will have nearly the 
■atne meaning; "hattenack" is not 6o clear, but' pro- 
tmlily the idea ii, that ai a tack hat a halter rtiund its 
neck» to the peraon addresKd deserroa to, aod will in 
duo time hare otie round his. 

Besides these there are the Sbakepearian wordj "rope- 
trie ki *' and *' ropery/' and doubtl«ai many others may 
\m found in the writingi of that era^ 

that this coincidence is merely occidentoL As the I 
Dutch connect the idea of jesting and joking with ( 
the word " wagtail,*' our ancestors may have done j 
the same. It seems to me quite possible that the j 
word ** wag " may sometimes have been an abbre^l 
Tiation of the word " waghalter," or ** wagatring,"] 
and sometimes of ^* wagtail''; and that in a short I 
time people nsed the word without havitig any I 
clear idea in their minds whether they meant* 
"rogue" or **je»ber," the two meanings ranningj 
eiisily into each other. 

With respect to the word " crack," I ^^^ '^^th I 
pleasure that it is not quite obsolete in its Sliak- > 
speurian sense : the other day I heard a bdy say— J 
" There was only a crack of a boy in the sbop.*^ 

F, J, V. 

P.S.— I find that in my former note on thcj 
word " wag " I have followed Professor Latham in J 
giving " pert person,** whereas above I liave giretlJ 
"^^ jester '' as its meaning, the latter being that Ia] 
which it is commonly used at the present day*| 
The two meanings are, however, as ia obvious 
closely akin. 

LKOLrxK : Christabel (5**» S. L 405, 515*] 
The latter name would seem to be the sun<^ 
(YisUibal^ the Spanish form of Christopher* 

M, S. Charkocic 

Gray's Inn. 

"Ibhar'* {&*^ S. i. 469 ; ii. 13.)— J. H. styi 

that Ibhar " is Gaelic, and means an adder," How 
comes it that no such word occurs in Armatmng's 
copious Gadic XHciiofiargf and that it does not 
resemble any of the Gaelic names for an adder, of 
other serpent, given in that work I S* T* P. 

Tavkbn Inscriptions (o^ S* i. 165, 274)— The 
following inscription stood for many years over 
the door of a tavern, occupying a portion of the 
present site of the Wistar Museum of Anatomy in 
this city : — 

" I, Michael McI>ermotfc* lirea herCf 
Aod eella good Porter, Ale, and Beer: 
I makea my sign a little wider. 
To let you know I sell good Cider," 

In quoting the foregoing, I have thought it b«t 
to preserve the syntax of the poet just as ho in- 
dited it. Gastok de Berskval. 


Rancke Riders (5*^ S. L 203, 271, 411* . ti 
38.)— In Memoirs of Vidacq^ written by himwrU, 
translated from the French, 4 vols., London, Lsill), 
vol iv. p. 210, will bo found a description of a 
somewhat similar class of swindlers to thoHo d. 
scribed by Mr. Waltkb TnoRNBuar, ^li i 
flourished during the French revolution, liini 
reaped a golden harvest from French innkeepers^ 

Harrt Bltth 




P'KU. ADC. 1,74.] 




In tbe current nambar of ih^QtutrUrlflU^niw^ — 
a most attractive number for the importance and 
yariety of it« ftrticlee, and for the ability with 
which they are written, — the old and ever interest- 
ing story of the escape of the Jacobite (and 
capit4itly*eonvicted) Ean of Nith^dale once more 
challenges and wins attention and sympiithy. 
Under the title of The Book of Car later ocJc^ Lord 
Hemes, the bead of the Maxwell family, has 
sanctioned the printing of 150 copies of his col- 
lection of family papera. Tbeie form two quarto 
Tolumcs, which are not for sale* In this collection 
axe to be found the C *ounte88*8 narrative of how 
ahe dfectetl her husband's escape from the Tower 
CQ the eve of the day on whicn he was to suffer 
deftth OQ the Hcaltbld/ 

It has never» perhaps, been noticed thiit the 
means employed by this noble daughter of the 
Herbert* (she was the younjje«t daughter of the 
Marquis of PowLs) may be said to have been more 
"^ (ly t*' " ' I ;i to succeed ; and how succesH 
irne^ pt is yet inexpliciible. 

Lord ' was doomed to die on Wednes- 

day, ih 'uaiy, 1716, On the night pre- 

vionty l-...f ^^..,^dale took two women with her 
into the Tower, in order that her lonl might pojis 
out aa one of those women. Their names were 
Mrs. Morcan and Mrs. MiE's. Mrs. Morgan, tall 
and thin. Tike Lord Nithisdale^ was the ^t intro- 
dnced, aa a viaitor, into the EarFs room^ where, 
having depoiited a riding-hood which she wore 
under another of her own, Lady Nithsdale re-con- 
dntcted her to the stairs (on which, from the 
prisoner's door to the foot of the stairs, were 
Mvend sentinels), and there bade her farewell 
Thie first lady had thus gone in, and had thus de- 

Next* Mrs. Mills waa ushered into the room. 
AiriTed there, she and Lady Nithsdale proceeded 
to diagiiise the Earl, so aa to make him as like 
Mrm, Millfi 03 possible. This done, Mra, MiDs put 
on the riding- hood, which had been left behind 
for th« purpose by Mrs. Morgan, and withdrew, 
pMiing through the guards, as well as various 
peo]]le about the landing and staiiB, in the cha- 
nflUsT and similitude of Mis. Morgan, who had 
hnsi Been to come from my lord's chamber some 
tkic before ! Two women had gone into that 
diamb«r, and two had left. Ko one remained save 
thm Eoil and Countesa, Kotwithstanding this 
fiicl, in a few minutes, the Earl issued, dressed 
fUtbJIy in Mn. Mills's clothing, and through 
SQttdi, aerrmnta, and warders, sacceasfully wended 
Km «»y tnKo the street, and got dear off. Thus 
iff, tw« wocnen^ with tne Count^sa, had be«n in- 
tipdoord to the EarV^ room, and apparently thru 

had departed ! Subseciuently, Lady Kithedal^ 
herself paaaed out unquestioned, pretending that 
her husband was still in the now empty chamber* 
That this little drama could have been played 
out successfully without collusion, which must 
have been well paid for, seems impossible. Lady 
Nithsdale remains as heroic as ever, for her risk 
and peril were undoubtedly great ; but if tdl i\m 
guardians of the Tower were not confederatei, 
they were the greatest simpletons that ever wor« 
a uniform, or acted as gaolers. George I., who 
was half enraged and half amused at the incident, 
insisted, nevertheless, that he was betrayed, and 
that the escape could not have been effected but 
by means of a guilty confedemcy* 

The heroism on this occasion saved no hero, 
though the lady strove hard to the last to believe 
that nhe had a hero for her husband. After Lord 
NitliadiLlo bad reached the Continent, disguised as 
a servant of the household of the Venetian Am- 
bassador, *^Lady Nithsdale," says the Quarterly^ 
" for whom no search was made, remained for the 
time in London.'^ The truth is that she baffied 
all search, and lived undiscovered in a house in — 
then not unfashionable — Drury Itfrne. She seoma 
to have encouraged a report that she re&Uy had no 
hand in the ejicipe, in hopes that she might live at 
liberty. She wisely lay hid the while, but search 
wofi made after hex. As it wa3 unsuccessful, the 
Botioitor-Oeneral xiiade it known that, as Lady 
Nithsdale had the decency, as he called it, not to 
appear in public, the Government would give her 
no further trouble, but that if she showed herself 
outside her hiding- pkce she would certainly be 
arrested. After a farewell visit to the family ee* 
tat^ in Scotland, she passed through London and 
subsequently landed on the coast of Flandeirsi, 
where she was detained some time by a nuBc^riage 
and dangerous illnesa. 

There was never a more selish man than the 
husband for whom Lady Nithsdale had made so 
many sacrifices. When they again came together 
at Lille, he vexed her bouI liy hia extmyaganoe, 
and by living over their little income. He nccuaed 
her of grudging him ! ** I am sure,*' she writes to 
her sister. ** I would not grudge my heart's blood, 
if it would do him any service." While Lord 
Nithsdale was in Italy, his wife, in Fiance, en- 
dured the sharpest poverty, but felt no cross, save 
that of having to bve apiui from him. Neither 
could have existed but for the charity of Lord and 
Lady Traquair. The ktter waa Ladv Nithsdale » 
sister. Instead of acknowledging the kind aid 
extended by Lord Traquair, Lord Nithsdale pro> 
tested that he was the lender of money to Lord 
Traqoair ! What the former Lord got he spent 
on his own pleasures. ^'He has never been the 
man," is the mehmoboly, ultimate remark of the 
heroic wife who had onoe thought hinv ti. \afiws, 
"that had offeied me i^ lMi\flXk%^^^<i^^^*^ 




h© hm taken up ; find, aa yet, all h §pent.'* He 
died at Rome in 1744 ; lady Nithsdalc at the 
«ome place in 174J). Out of an iinnnity paid to 
her by her son (in pos«e?^sion of tbi» fa i ' ■ 

she dischjirged all ht»r lord's debts, to 
tation. lliis should have been dout^ f?\ im M.,i. 
It was the litst of the noble acts of a noble life ; 
and the HpJiee, it is hoped, ia not w.i-«*f -' wt.;, |. jr 
devotwl to the Note which adds notm ' t-o 

the details of the story of the Count^^as vi _ .. side. 

Hkbkt S. Kma k Cow have added a ohiLrming tolume 
tD Fairy Lore in ***S/arfjniiV J'cwry Tales^ C'otUctcd and 
Truttiiattd /r^n the IttusiaJK Paiith^ Strriun, and 
JBo^^eviitin, by John T. Nftakc, of th« British Miueum/' 
In oontraKt with this atti-iictiTc book of sturtltng fancy 
wft foiiiarkabtc atory (from the same firm) of domeatic 
life, called Softa Time (n Irdawd^ a Itecotltcti'on. Thiii 
Ib a clererly told tioJe of Irish lite, free from ftU exa^e^ 

To Messrs. MACMiLt.AK k Co. we owe a handsome and 
interesting volume, entitled, '" The Balladt and^ongn of 
Scotland, III View of their Influence on the Character 
of the People/* By J. CUrk Murray, LL.a Br. Mur- 
ray ftnda much that is new to be eaid on an old but arct 
pleasant iubject. 

Mn. Tkqq hns added to his reprint! two works that 
have charmed the grand-fiarenta of the preeextt geaorar- 
tlon, and that will obarni, not only this^ but Kucoeaaive 

fenerations, namely, Barrow *9 Mutrn^ of tAc B<m^y, as 
ull of interest as Rulntt^on Cruaett and the fni3M»fn 
Ntstorp of a Ship, from hrr CradU t& her Ormt, Tills 
bistory hn^ a neecnary supptement at to ^team and 
atiamehips^ tbinga flcarceW employed in the Baercauttle 
marine and Boyj2 Navy when The Hutmy of a Ship wa* 
firet written. 

Mkssbs. WAnn^ Lock k Titleb, in M. nopcweir* 
Ltfffnds of the Muiouri and Mwijfnppi, bare proTided 
^tiei'aJ readers tvith above two dozen very readable 
utoriea, which refer to the lands about the two j^eat 
Tiwers, whe'u none but the Eed Men ovvD<;d them, and 
when the White Man and Fire Wutor hod not yet cum- 
menced their civilizing proeefia. 

DvjLTn or Mr. W. P. CnHiSTis, C-B.—Evory reader 
of ^' N. k Q/* will, we feel uasuretl, aharc the deep regret 
with which we announce the dettth of a fn-tjuent and 
valued contributor to ita colnmna— Mr. William Doug»l 
Christie, M.A,, C.B. — which took place on Monday last, 
41^ hit reindbnce in Doraet Square. Of Mn Chrii^tie's 
vanouaiuid uaefnl parliamentary and dqdomatic services, 
und his excrtione a* a social peformert it is not our pro- 
vince to treat. We would rather point attention to the 
e»lengive historical knowledge and snurjd critical taite 
exhibited by Mr. Chriiiiie in the tuo ' hi^d works 

which he hai ML Uii life of Uit I Shafte*- 

^KTv (2 vole., 1S71), and The I Mia* A^^ . , .Si<;tttary 

WiUiamson, lately edited by him for the OamdenSocitt^', 
furnish coiicluaive evidence of Mr, Chriftie'e intimate 
acquaintance with the imncrtant period to wliich they 
relate ; while hia admirable edition of Dryden's Po^mA 
(in the Globe and Clarendon Beriea) ma^ei it » Bubjcot 
of regret that we have not a fuller and more complete 
edition of tlio works of *' Glorious John " from one who 
wa« BO well able to do justice to hi« genius. The Heath 
of this lamented gentleman, who was only in his fifty- 
ninth year, will cn^ate a void in a wide aociiU and literal^ 



I'ATtieut&n or Price, In,, of ct^it hook to be wnt dtrest be 

y\\v '^ff*<ya hy vrbom i( ij requircii, wUott- nunc aod •ddnw aic« 

jici.t,V Uau.. Bolt^u. IT'ff. 

-> » > . ,. of % YutttiK €ren(leia«a vlioet B^mIh eti 

i ' .u. IT IS. 
rAiiJ«7 F^icatlj, coDcemiof Itie Etialt tt 

li'Li.i,*ujtTu'i Lift jf IT. Lhad<frtoii. CAinbrid^. I7ai>* J 

^Dttrr^ to Co trr^iionOritt^. 

RAri£--^Thc epigram in tolerabh ^^•_'l( imown. but H 
ts worth repe.itiui;. It ia laid to I n at* 

eertion mode by Mr. Froude (at ¥A Mcall 

writers are not truthful* and iu [Miuitit;r uy tJ^anon^ 
Kingaley, that there iA no truth to be found in hif* 

"' Froude informs the Scottish youth 
That parsona have no care for truth ; 
AS* h lie Cauon Kingsley loudly cries 
That history i^ a pack of liee. 
AVhat cause for jadgmct*t ^i Taal!;^ 1 

A brief reflection «o' tery ; 

For Froude thinks Kin ite. 

And King-^ley goei tu ^ i ^ r history.* 

If the above be the epigram inqulr 1 dr ' r- o hawoill| ' 
to add that of the uuthurahip notliin ■ lurtlier i« knowi^^ 
vre believe, than that it ia of Cambridge. 

Stkpuakus.— If you will turn to Murray^a JIandhd6k\ 
for Ktnt and Sussex, p. 205, you will find yoar qoefjf 1 
thus answered : — *' On the base of the second YiilMlM^ i 
N. side of choir" (in the ancient church, Mlfitler« J 
Isle of Thanet), **a scratched, in lettora of early (orm. I 
' EKscmt qui nescit quod Naihui hie requie^cu/ A] 
leaden coffin wa« difecor ^ ^ - ^^j in the ooufw 
of iho restorations, po- the renmiua of 

the person thuR unflntt rated." 

R. P,— The reference* which you ^ek are prolNlUy 
famished in the following nucieTit lines : — 

" Bemardus vallfis, oolles Benediatus amabat^ 
Oppida FrandsGUi* umgnai I^atius urbes." 
VT, A. C— There is no pn-oof that 8t, Patrick was a 
Somersetshire man, and little probability Uint ho wai 
an Irishman. The question of his birth[ilace is a pcratti 

W. E. thanks our correspondents for the informftlim 
supplied on pp. 53, 54. 

J. W. B.— It is from Plautiu, *' Homo trium Hterisntin ** 
=^** Fur/' a thief. 

Mii>nLK TEttPLAiL. — The allu&ion woi^ dcnibtleM^ tij 
you have stated. 

H. B. P.— Th? authorship haa not been dbpatcd tel 
** N. k Q. ' 

C. O. D,— Consult the life of the Boiiitor any book ot\ 

X. should state the case to the Archbishop of Canter- 

Editorial Communications should bo addrofled to ' 
Editor ''—Advertisements and Bu$<ine3s Letters to ''lli» I 
Publialier "'—at the Office, 2ti, Wellington Street^ Utmig I 
London, W.C. 

We beg leave to state thttt we decline to return cwd* 
municotiODS which, for any itu^or). \\*. i\o not print ; «lld 
to this rule we can make no ^ 

To all commUTiicatione shoi I the name und 

addreea of the tender, notnecvr^iii i.> i.r pnhlioitioii, but 
M ft goarantee of good ftiith. 


E *tt«. 8, 74] 



r, SAVmtOAT, AUGUST % m4, 

CONTENTS. — N* 32. 

-On th» l>«rfvfttloD of tbe PTcnch Word Vtux, 101— 
A Wotk of iiiM B4U«nt7U« Prcu, 102— Stiakn>ntrittnA, 
lairtA^ CiMii|»(B«ri mod PredeeeMom — *'Keljitl*>n of 
\f' ifii—Worktof EdpiT Altftn P«>e~**Mrw;l. ' 105— 

il aii«lley— Pftnl]«l PM»s«m-PjiltadromQ 
rboiuM FuUw— "Tb» Piokwlok PApera," 

Tb« t^c of I>r, Meftd's Pictaroa ia U5i, 

h— SkAlIaf Llt^ntnre, TOT » Dr. Tlidi. Be«7e't 
k» DfTOtlont ; or, m CoUoctioia of Prmjfwre *"— ** The 
aifCvftd*'— Wyftt, WjaU, umI Wood PMuiUc^ lOS 
aimpliiesl De«eriptioii« Wanted — Authon Naihas 
— ;9)p«ftioletto — "Th« 9worcl wtetttinir out tlw 8ci»b- 
IlAjrtiAa Po«i— Oipfj MiLirla^e, 109 — Osleauii — 
toam* fur UtUe R^^dere' — J ChoichlU, MP-— 
iStflooOBptuiA -*' KJd^ Cottl's Levl^ "—The Ternpl&n 
W§tHliitn^~*'Mj. Fl7« yo K info's Coal Port«r" — 
la AlotspTA, DT the liuoler Chief "—LVsiL Valentine 
i^8«adi»kh Muidi — "tiipi7 (^iiflui "—Domingo 
B, 110. 

It— "KJke •• in Chancer^" 110— "Poverty p4rt» good 
7"— A rurlnua Ii«Uc of Old C«leuti«, 112— "Th« 
W«ittw5 t>f *i irUe "— •* Thie Altborpc Picture Uillaj " : 
, Ji "" ^uet du Mayeme^To Proat— 

B«' "1 John Porter— Tlie Pynderu 

lAt r.Ji — TliQ Willow PAttern — 

9t i»coii«na— " Like ' a* a C«DJ unction—" Hudl- 
l4-<tfiifle gr«^lu*M— ZlnsftQ Street -"Ttie litory 
' Vmm" — 8«li«i In "Bokaby"- Kuijfbl BU»m : 
~^ "BH— BlAld'LoM : Carr, loi^, &o — **lMtaAt«," 
, tb» JLrtiii — Inrfltied Oom mas - Charlaa I. an 
IkphfD Clarke— Rer ^muel Hardy. B.A., 110 
■>•« ol Wi«iiion— Andeot Ea^llAh Kpiaooptd 8«6»— 
N-EUaakwth Caaxtin£. 117. 

Booka* Ao. 

Iber'ation of the feench woed 



OF triT«iAirc«. 
If«tta: ia, La one respect iit leiust, the 
word ihftt J am acquainted with. 
we expect to find nt Iciist one 
original word fix)m which it is de- 
^^ 'in i/t'W:^' there is nut a nn*jh kittv of 
To^H^uj (from which it is uni^'ersaJly ad- 
b be derived), for the two u's have nothing 
If to do with it. The successive steps 
k me to %ave been about the following : 
peUm^ Qch^ oiU and oU^ fxU and ah^ eua, 
lit, jfttUjX wid the €u^ in some of these ex- 

luotieed aa «« Iti /f««^ or i mjl%^ 
moanocd m y in j^m. 

I mti prufca* to give the exmct ie(|aenc«, bnt I 

il tbc rxrtm|>!cfl in tbe moifc intelUgiblo 

■ doubt inlroduced at 

: I iUkWG BMsiiiued to it, 

. .. . : „ oljo occur; and by the 

ib9 i the»o t^wMUo 490 aftd imt. The e in 

told iie«iu to i«||ifei«tit a <»bortenuig and 

Ittft ot {or**) urrs. iiphtbouga 

are a >ofittiyd frirm of r;. 

^h|m and oe/i 1 have l. ^nth. The 

^^K wUl he 

IT (.' 


amplea, aeenis to be mefelj another way of ex- 
prei^aing the gound of oe or tr, just jis the « in ctil 
ut the present day hns much the same »i)und hb 
the ftt of yeux, and exactly the isame sound a4 the 
(^ii( in fkuiL The 11 cannot be the n in ornio»^ be> 
cause it ia not found in the oldest forms ;§ besides 
which a short Latin vowel in the position of the u 
in oruhs invariably diKappeara in Frent^h (see 
Brachel's Gramm,^ 2nd ed., p. 121). Nor is the u 
either to be regarded as due to the change of the I 
(a change which I deny ever takes pbee), for an 
accented Lat. short o, regularly (or ivi^iriahhj as 
Braohet haji it, ifn<L p. 119, note 1) becomes t^t in 
Freack Comp. feu from fdcus^ jeu from jiwun, 
lieu from Idcta^ in which words there is no medial 
f, and no one can say, therefore, thnt the h in tile 
correi^pondiiig French words is due to the change 

However, it is not t^ the « of yeitjn that I wish 
e,si>eciu]Jy to direct attention, but to the i or 1/, 
which has been added in the middle of oil^ and at 
the be>rinning in ytux, and which in the hrst case 
diiiiinisshei* the hiatus between the m and the M| 
and in the second gives a softMied sound to the ^u 
by diminishing the abruptness of its utteranccIF 

ThisTifi© of t and y is exceedingly coninioo, and 
to be found in a great many languat?e8, and yet I 
am not aware that it hiie ever been remarked upon. 
It is imposgibJe to go into the matter exhaustively 
in the pages of ** N. & Q.,-' and I will therefore 
content mj^elf rather with pointing out where the 
examples may be found Umu with giving umny of 

I do not often find i and y used thus at the be- 
ginning of a word, as in ycitx. Still it does occur, 
and especially it would seem in old French^ fl» in 
ieri (==«r*, ». *., €rat, was), ittt (—eve^aqna), ierbe 
(=/t«r&«). Comp. also in Ital. jeri (pronounced 
uK, from LaU wri), and in Span, ytdra (mf^ Lat, 
kt^iUra), ycrba^ Lat. herha^ And we might almost 
comp. our y(Mtr{day} with the Lat. hesUmui, 

In the middle of words i and y so used are very 
common indeed. In French, in nM (^m nut). 

or LJttr6's Diet In ths sing, we find oi7, otl^ al, vel, 
ntiit iJid it U eaij to tee how the present Corm ceU has 
ariien out of them. The u in the la>t two fomka h not 
either of the «'« in ocuium, (See text.) 

$ Burguy my9, that oil (or oyl) ia the oldest lorawii 

II I do not thiuk that this fifsl osae ia aaarlj so com* 
mon of occurrence aa the second. 

X The buccal cuirity or tube (a« Max MtlUer cattt it) 
is much narrowed In pronouncing: i (=e< in /r^^ ^r 1 in 
pin) or y (u in yam), ikt the dernan of tl^ < < 

Drought into c1o»c proiLimity with the paltvi' 
volume c»f breath eiaitted is ooniidenihly Ic^ 
softer souiid i« produced, Oae is thus v 1 

down, aa it were, into the vowel (or conAunu^o . 
the t or y. The stream of breathy iastea^i oi (.v ii 
the w»y alon^ of the tome Tolamo* b«T^i\» ^o\W 
gradunlly widens «mt, liSt ift\t atvto Vte.x^Xv«i\ v^^r "[^^ 




pud (from p€dem\fid (fromfd), bun (from bene), 
and in a great many otber instances. And so in 
Italian and Spnuiab, though by no means always 
in the same words as in French. Tliua the Fr. 
membre is in Spun* miimbre^ the Fr. mcrh is in 
Span* mierla. And bo again the Fr. flamnic is the 
It. fiammoj where the % does not, in my opinion, 
result from the change of the L 

In English we find this auxiliary sound likewise, 
though it ia commonJy not written at all, and when 
written, not as i nor v- The sound occurs in mule 
(i=.myoole), rtfusc (c£ the It. rifitito), rebuke^ dukt, 
&a, but is not written. In pew (0* Fr. ptn, mii^ 
or piiy—hiUj m in Puy-de-Borae, from Lat. 
podium), the sound is e^reased by e* and so, 
perhaps, also in ntw fcf. Germ, neu), and in few 
(cf. Swed. /a» Dan, ftm). 

In French again it is heard, hut not written, after 
Ih when they are mmtiWeSy and in their place, 
when they are pronounced like y. In Itai. the i 
is written ftfter gL In Span. U, and in Fort, Ih^ 
are pronounced miimy followed them. And so 
1^ in Fr. and Ital, as in agneaUj agndlo^ n in 
Spaa, as in aito (year), and nh in Port., as in anho 
(lamb). In Butch I find it, as in nuuic (^new). 
In Swed. it occurs also, especially after k\ when 
foUowed by soft voweb, and in Irish it is much 
heard (though as in Swed, not written) after con- 
sonants followed by soft vowels. In German, 
which is a rohnster language, it scarcely seems to 
occur, though I seem to detect a little of the sound 
in ah soft, as in mikh^ ich. But what need to 
multiply examples? This t or y isj donbtless» to be 
seen or heard in nearly all languages. 

F, Chaxce, 

Sydenham Hitl. 


The Minitrdty oftht f?cottuh Border is, upon the 
authority of Sir Walter Scott, universally believed 
to be the first work which issued from the famous 
Ballantyne press, and, as far as the general public 
is concerned J there can be no question that this 
belief is founded on fiact. But the readers of 
Lockhart*s Life of Scott must have observed that 
a volume printed for private circulation by James 
BaUantyne preceded the M%n$tr&Uy by three yeais. 
At p. 316 (first edition), Mr. Lockhart relates a 
conversation which took place in December, 1799, 
between Scott and Ballantyne relative to the 
latter's trying to get some bookseller's work. 
Ballantyne said — 

'* That Buch an idea had not occurred to him ; that he 
had no acqiuietonce with the Edinbiii^h * trnde ' ; but, 

* In ItaL aad Spaa. % is tometiines uaed with the 
Mine view of eoftenlng and preparing the way, M €.g,, 

if he had, his types were gtKxl, and he thotight he couH 
afford to work more cheaply than town printers.'* 

Scott, with his good-humoured smile, said — 

''You had better try what you can do. You harr 
been praising my little ballads ; suppoic you print off a 
dozen copies or 80 of as many ae will make a punphlcli 
fiufficient to let m? Edinburgh acquahitanoeB judge eir 
my ekitl for tliemBeiTeB.'* 

Ballantyne assented ; and, I believe, exactly 
twelve copies of *' William and Helen," " The Fire 
King,-' " The Chase,** and a few more of these 
pieces, were thrown otf accordingly, with the Utk 
(idluding to the long delay of Lewis's colloction) of 
Apohgy for TaUi of ToTor, 1799. Tl.T^ ^r^ 
snecimen of a press afterwards so <\ 

plea.'iied Scott, and then follows the pi ^ i jf 
the MinsirtUy. 

As the Apology is, perhaps, one of the nir«t 
works of a celebrated author, and more e^p«ciall| 
as Lockhart does not seem to have seen a copf 
himself, a brief description of the volume Tnay W 
of some interest to your readers. In the first 
place^ then, it is something more than a *^ pam- 
phlet,'' being a quarto volume of 6C» pp., ftsd 
bound (at least my copy is so) in strong boards^ 
the name ** Poems " being stamped on the baclL 
The title-page is as follows : — 

•♦ An Apology for Talei of Terror. ' A thing of shreds 
and patchea.'— Z/atn/eC Kelio: Printed at the 
Office. 179a;' 

It will be remarked that, in the convcr 
with Ballantyne above quoted^ Scott wishes 
eopie;^ of hin own ballads, and in the Lift^ p, 3tfl 
Lockhart speaks of the Apohgij as Scott's *' oi 
little volume." 

Of the six ballads which compose the book, ] 
ever, only three—" The Erl-King," "The Cb 
and " William and Helen "—are to be found 
Scott's works. The other three are " The WaU 
King: a Danish BallAd" (qut^n^ who is tb 
author?), " Lord William,'' and "Poor Mar}% I _ 
Maid of the Inn." The last-named is sUted to b^ 
by Mr. South ey, but his authorship of " Lord 
William " is not acknowledged, and the others t 
likewise printed without the name of the writci 
" Lord William," and, I presume, also ** Po 
Mary,'* were written for Lewis's Takjn of W\ 
and, as that work was not published till 18()1| 
ballads nmst have made their first app 
the Apology, Scott's ** Fire-King '* is no 
tained in the volume. It would be intertsti 
know the reason why Scott departed from 
intention, and included in the Apolo 
ballads than bis own. Perhans it 
modesty, which was not the least pr>c»minent 
characteristic of the author of WaverUy, The 
translations from Burger ftppear in the Apoto^ in 
their original form, t.£,, with all the false rh^inta 
and Scotticisms pointed out by Lewis, and 1 
were corrected before the baUads were pric 


>logy I 





tius TaU* cf Wondsr, It only remaina to be 
added that* as a specimen of typogmphy, the 
Apohf^ is worthy of idl the praise bestowed upon 
it W. B. Cook, 


8&AK5PKARE'fi Name (5**» S. 11. 2»)— I thiok tliSt 
"wc amy go too far in giving to every name the 
derivation that sseeins most natural. WnghomT 
for instance^ may be derived from Wigorn, and 
Shukspeare, like ** Fewtarspeare," from some Nor- 
mAn name denoting a very diflerent origin to thj^t 
we diotild accord it in English. I do not at all 
disigree with Mr. BARDSLBir^a not^, but insist on 
exoeptioDs. Many also who acquired these nick- 
name Kiimaines were not only servants, but the 
^ns and kinsmen of feudal lords ; and whatever 
the oricin of Shakspeare's name, as quite as pro- 
IkiKJc ris lt^ niiLriri would be the supposition that 
the first who bore it was kinsman to some feudal 
Jotd. Men of Shakapeare's appearance, in the days 
of onr more nncoutn ancestors and ** wdd Irish- 
men,'' did not usually apring from a mediteval 
Tuiduum, True, his mother was an Arden ; bat 
'la specimens of rarious animals one may study 
in these better days (when all cbisses are 
mixed), I do not think the coarse grain 
be very greatly improved by only one 
:nt ; at all eYenta, Dot bo much as to tarn the 
brutal-looking features of the agricultund 
of Elizabeth's day mto the retined and 
fMitnres of a Shakspeare. Btill, it must be 
1 that long before Shakspeare's time 
the '3 (even younger sons occjisionally) 

qf feuajii ionis took to agriculture, as husbandmen, 
and nuUTied those whose origin was serfish, so that 
be inferred the mixture of cla^^es was very 
lerable in Elizabeth's time, and the lower 
h 11 net was not the gross, brutaJ, or 
animal of, say, King John's time. 
-L\, however, whatever the origin of 
^ajik:«|xi*are*s name, I decidedly believe, with many 
'Ttu -- that two or three hundred years before his 
iiaJe ancestors were more likely to be of 
iQ of villain blood. 

:irlopi the Darwinian belief, animals in 

' t are much the same, whether biped or 

- d ; and every one knows that when an 

' M iiitJiider beats the whole field in a race, it 

I id, on one side or another (usually 

I, that, however far back, he comes 

'^1 K:k.*^ But the accomplishments of 

ijt those of the man. Nevertheless, 

r^r- -T*..,. _t^|j^ development uf the 

l^e race is animal or in- 

"'•"l*>rs habits conducive 

I feet forma of head, 

. . i __..,_ . _ the tine-bred tapering 

ttaa or boiw* A gitM deal more might be said 

on these matters, for either horse or man may have 
(however well-bred the dam) quite a yokel-bred 
issue, and these again a really tine breed, becauaa 
some "strain" or other, imported, perhaps, in re- 
mote times, occasionally " crops up/' On all these 
grounds (and I could prove that there is nothing 
invidious in themX I say Shakspeare s appearance 
points to a far better origin than that which the 
bias and vanity of not a few would assign to him. 

X. Y. Z. 

WagstajT and Waghorn are without doubt local 
surnames. Staff is from nUd^ a place, Conf. 
Envestatf, BickerstafT. Horn is a winding stream. 
E. S. Charkoce. 

Oray'f Inn. 

Is Shakspeare Right? (5**^S, i. 485.)— It 
appears to me that Shakspeare is right ; tluit the 
meaning of the lines in question is easily under- 
stood, and the grammar correct. The lines are^ — 
•* OtHc, How i«'t, Laertes? 
Latrie$. Why, ew a wcHxIcock to • mine own ffpringc^ 
I am justly killed with mine own treaehei7.^' 

//amlfe, V. 2. 

First, as to the grammar in ^* How is 't, Laertes 1" 
" with you '' is omitted ; the complete expression 
would be, **Howi8't with you, Laertes?" Osric 
says this, and Laertes answers, "It is with me (in 
relation) to my own springe or treachery, as it is 
with a woodcock (in relation) to his own springe." 

Now as to the meaning : a woodcock is trained 
to decoy other birds into a springe; first, the 
fowler places him just outside the springe ; then, 
while strutting about Just outside the springe, aEu 
calling, and by various arts alluring other birds, the 
woodcock incautiously places liis foot in or on the 
springe, and so is caught. The sprinfje is termed 
tlae woodcock's " own " springe, not because tlie 
woodcock contrived it, as Zoilus jocularly suggests, 
bvit because be standi in a certain relation to it, 
i. «., stmts round it, with the view of decoying 
other birds into it. The comparison seems to me 
perfect : the woodcock is treacherous towards other 
birds, and is caught himself ; Laertes is treacherous 
towards Hamlet, and is caught himself. 

F. J. V. 

"Favoub" (5«* S. ii, 64,)— "Favour" is still 
used in its old sense in Lancashire, though pro- 
nounced favvoT, Thus, when a son resembles his 
father in look, or gesture, it wiU be said, "He 
favvors his father/' " Hard-favoured " and '* well- 
favoured " are expressions common enough in the 
North of England* Th^ cattle in Pharaohs dream 
were ** well-favoared " and ** ill-favoured." 

E. L. Blknkinsopp. 

This word is in common use here as an expres- 

• The qonf to of 1676 r«»d» '* In ** for " to/' but " to 
teems to me, at least, far {ireferabk. 



[{/' S. U. A'ja, ^, *7k 

aion of wQiilitudo between parent and child ; thus^ 
"She fjivnura the father," and "He favours the 
Doiherv' ure accepted a» meaning a reisembLancc 
"id features, F. D. 


** Lovers Labour 's Lost*' (5«» S, I 36S ; iL 3.)— 
I am obliged to Jabbz for unswermg my query ^ 
but he IS surely wrong in attributing to Queen 

? Elizabeth the mention of "the queue" in a letter 
written in 1604, when Elimbeth Wiis Ln her grave. 
There can be no quest ion of an error in the 
endorsement, for the nobleman to whom the 

lietter was addressed was only oreiiied Viscount 
in August, 16()4. Speriekd. 

[Jabes iLcknowletlgf 8 the error, and eintes thut Anne 
of I)«fiitiArk, wife of Jdmes L, was the Queen to whom 
referoQce was made.] 

" Who wrote Shakspere ? " — In the article so 
entitled, in Fraser's Magaxine for August, 1874, 1 
find this assertion : — 

^Mr. HalUwelt obserres: ' It i§ remarkable that con- 
temporary writera refer to them (the SonntU) much 
ofiener than to the plaje/*' 

Knowing that "contemporary writers," with the 

^ single exception of Meres, do not refer at all to 

3hakespeare'8 SotineU^ I turned with aome curiosity 

\to Mr. HaUi well's Life of Shakespeare^ 1848^ 

pp, 158-9, which is the foot-reference in Fra$er, 

found there the sentence quoted in Frtistr^ with 

jthe exception of the parenthesis ; and in Halliwell, 

the prononn "them" refers to Shakespeare's 

j!Fwm« {Vcnu» and Adonis, and The Hope of 

i^tcrect^f which are, in fact, the topic of this and 

I the preceding sentence. 

Seeing that this sentence is employed by the 
writer in FroMer to discredit the poems and plays 
ISA the work of Shakespeare, by showing that the 
~^onntts are referred to by Shakespeare^a contem- 
aries much oftener than the plays (nothinff in 
Ihia place beine said of the poems), I think it but 
fiiir to expose tms extraordinary mist^ike, 

I note also that the actual assertion in Mr, 

HalliweU's Life of Shakespeare is not correct. 

-^hakespeare^s contemporaries mention or refer to 

^liia plays much more frequently than to his poems. 



Doutscli, on the Talmud, says :— 
*' Wt (tltall deroie the brief fpace that remidni to this 
^ f^tt<l for a E«iierai picture of H we Bball refer 

^ , wlio^ fpeakiog of his oirn book, which — 

L Jul,.,, m^tttndu — is Tery Haggadistk, nnknowinglr 
l4eseritMS tlie HagfmdaiK as accurately m can be.' — 
^L%f4ntr^ Remaitu ofSmanuel DeuUck, p. 47. 

euts^ch then gives the poetiy of Bunyan prefiitory 
rifi his Ptlgrim'8 Frogrm,^ explanatory of the 
contenu of the Bmggadah to be found in tiie work 


of Bunyan. Bunsen, in his second vork on 
polytus, comptires the authf- ^* ** ■ " ?t»f 
HtrmAU to Bunyan and his J ^^^ 

In the use of allegory the . . .sity be- 
tween The Pastor of Bciinas and Thf PUftiiA't 
Progress ; and there may be btl wif >n thf Ha»jgad£kk 
and The PilgHm'^ Pro^ts^ . 'r. Deut*ch, 
such an authority on the T". , tnuse be* 
tween them. There are but it lt, ac- 

quainted with the JJoffgadah or '1'" UoaitD 

compares The Sh^jih^ird of JJcrmoi w tlie trilogy 
of Dante as well as The Pilgrim'jt Progftm «f 
Bunyan. He appears to put on an equality «f 
meJit the three authors and their works^ It may 
be asked whether Bunyan could have bean ae- 
quaioted with Eaggadah or Talnmd, Shfphird «/ 
Jlermas or Dante and his p>oem, or ' * , wiiijdi 
appears most probable, he only v une «o 

the same subject, as all write, \'^ nowx]^ 

or following in the footsteps of e:u 

The judgments of celebrated wi i 
of others hiive been recently givr 
that, but variations of their own op: 
ent times on the same auihoni and 

IreDtf^uB, against heroaiea, at one time qaots 
Bermas with approbatiaD, when he siip|>orU hi» 
views, and on another occasion condenuia him oitd 
his works, when contrary to him. 

Tertullian, on prayer, aasunkcs the Soiipiiiiif 
dignity of the book called TJt^ Sh^tsrd o/ Si rmm; 
yet in another, De FndicUia^ when the taxi if 
against him, he treats the same work as impose 
apocryphal, and scouted by all the churobea. 

It is curious after ao many ages Buaaen alia 
follow the eame course as his predeocacon ui 1 
criticism of the same work. BunsoD, itt liia I 
book on Hippi^ljtus, says J7i^ Sh^v^"""^ ^^ Rm 
is an absurd composition ; and oi> ttcaoi 

book on Hippolytus, he says 1 1 i^ 

shepherd is equal to Dante and ii 
yan and liis PiUftim^s Progtina. 
Ilerfnas seems to have been a niii 
in the first ages of Christianity. . 
was used by the earliest churcheti u^ «a tic 
elementary instruction. — E, II. y b. in. ch. iiL 

And not only this may be said to be the ph 
of Bimyan^s Pilgrim's Pro*;r«w, but it may 
said to have kept it in popular e&timatic 
Pa4tor of Hrrtfui^f from being bound uji ' 
New Testament, accounted Scripture, and 
churche&f fell into entire di&iise. Lately, 6001 
three tiunslations of it into F •' ' .1. — tnay [ 
thought to be a revival of int^ ur* 

V. . J, i^incn* I 

**Bblatioji or England." — A H«la 
this title wna written about a.d» 15iX), by a«^ 
Venetian in the suite of the Ambttiavdc^ 
Venice to the Court of England, A tnin» 

tP^ H. II. Av9. 6, 7iO 



of thfff ruHous docrtment, "wiUi the teit at fool, waa 
pijl tW Cumitcu Society iu 18^17. It is 

r^r iQ^% atid writleii hj a man of good 

if I uou. Amongst many interesting 

m:i one qiieation that perhapi:; *oiae 

fmuf r Ml .>. tv Q/' ciin settle^ viz., that Julius 
Caasor set? the three sides of Eogland at %iH)(t 
i«ik«» wliilKt Bede makes it 3,000, Who m right } 
The rivf-rn ahound, he says, in every species of 
Xian fiih^ " except cjirp, t^nch, and perct " (" ma 
^per<\ carponi^ o temoh, no peradci"). As to the 
n, it ^*em9 there is a disitich in Bakers Oiro- 


' Hop* and torke^e^ carps and hew, 
" " 1 a year/* 

Came into England all in 

Now Ron*lelet (born 1507) fiays of the perch tbut 
it ahouociK more in the Po and in Ent^land than 
anjwh^'TV else. It is stranjie thiit before the middle 
of the century it should have been abandaiit if 
anknnwTi at the commencement. Leonard Mascal, 
or ^ of Sussex^ is said to have introduced 

tht It 1514. 

< H we had abuDdance of tceea, but 

ntl ^ nor fir, 

\ luei, loo J were cultivated ; and Bede me nt ions 
fiiiejania. The Vale of Glouccater waa very 
favourable to the vine, and Rkhard II. made wiue 
in ihi* little park, Windsor. It is anppoBed that 
when the Enjrligh had po^nedsion of Uaacony the 
choapn»*&.% of wine thenoe imported destroyed the 
home manufacture ; but I have read that the 
cutting down of the forests so changed the climate 

i t\n- vliiA would no longer thrive. Diaatforest- 
atly the tempemtnre ol a district. 

1 u makes a oarjooa remark tliait the 

homn oi Enjjliah oxen are mtich larger than the 
Italian^, which proves the mildness of the cbnuite, 
av homa iril] not bear esoowive cold (** impero che 
il rnmo dA toUera freddo ecoeasivo^). 

'f tjiany more points to whidi attention 

m.. a if any of tfie«e lead to the eetabli^- 

mwit uf fucL5 touching any of them. The ftimple 
obaervationa of keen observers are more pregnant 

\h< of half the phikMOphers ; and 

theae jh of the Camden Society have 

nr vr - '" I iinnk, duly searched for the marrow 

tli They teem with facts physical^ 

M> I political ; and if a man could bring 

•D V a^ that of lyjrd Baoon or Btifibn to 

ht-^. ., ,, iiiii), marshalling all that is of vnlue in 
them into nne book^ I, for one, fchould value the 
work afl of hi/ln r price by fiir than all the aemi- 
Uiiiflricnl, r-ophical diaquititions of 

Bume « «o-c: I h rj^ of England. 

C. A. Ward. 

W<mK8 or ElMiAn Amjin Pok. — Mr. John 
Camdes Hotl«n npem Um> ''Preliminary'' to bk 
(1&72) with the alittAaient that "^ the pre- 

sent edition is more complete than any yet pub- 
lislied in i\m country." It may be worth while 
to inform English readers that thia edition is, 
nev^rtheleas, far from compkte. In fact, no com- 
plete oolbction of Poe'6 writings has yet beon 
published even in America, IVIr. Hot ten's edition 
wants at hsaat one-half of the matter contained in 
the editions of lledfield and Widdleton (New 
York), which contain, I believe, all of l*of^^^ 
known \x rit Jn,rM excepting hi*< two series of papers 
on **.A V and Onrp^ograpliy " (publiKhod 

m Gnt/ .:\"jaxim^ 1841), and perhaps some 

in tnor reviews, Mr, Hotten, probably, means to 
clamr thivt his edition contains more of Foe*a 
writings (a thing cannot be either taore or Uu 
tovitpUiU) than any edition previously published in 
EnjLilacd (or Bnt^iin) ; and this claim may be fully 
jiiMtifjod by the facts. But he follows this with a 
sUitcment that is not thus justifiable. Thia edi- 
tion, he 8jiy«*, ** gives the whol€ of the poema and 
storiefi which have been left us by this fine genius,'* 
&c. This statement is so far from true, that there 
are jii«t nineteen ritories contained in tlie Amerioan 
editions which are not contained in Mr, Hotten'c. 
Among them are, the ** Narrative of Arthur Gor- 
don PyTii»'' which is by far the most lengthy of 
Poes tales, and, in some respectij, tlie iinmt re- 
markable ; and " The Fall of the House of Udher/' 
which has been pointed out by each of his three 
literary bio^rriiphen? in this country (U.S*A.) as 
the most characteristic production of Foe's peculiar 
geni««, and the l>efit example of his kighest poweia 
in the department of prose. 

I will only add tbiit of this author's essays and 
criticisraf! Sir. Hotten's edition contains but a 
fragment, and that the one essay which has called 
forth the most unqualified praise of his critics, 
viz., '* Eureka,'* is omitted. G. L, H. 

Qrecnville, AI&. 

"Streel.^- — There is one word in common mse 
in Ireland I do not find noticed in ** N. & Q./' t, c,, 
the word stre^h It is not in Webster nor in the 
Slang LHttkynary^ although its derivation, per- 
haps, from the Latin itratumy or the same root ti» 
the English ttntc^ may be pkin enough. It *igni- 
Hqh generally to ilrag along the ground in a care- 
less manner, as the following quotations of Dublin 
slang will ^bow : — 

*' Bg fft reeled hia coat all over the Mti but conld fOt 
no one to trend on it.** 

" She it a dirty athreel f\. e^ c»releBi ia h«r diMi)/' 

" Ue Atreeled me up the CrM^mbe and up and down 
Francis Street till I tbougbt 1 d dfarop in my aUnnin.*' 

"bet af go out and take & itrecl (it ttrotl?) up uidt 
djjwn the qtmy/' 

'' And she went along streeling her dirty gowod In the 
gutter behind her.'* 

It appe:ir% to be a very expreeaive word,* 

H. U. 

• Kbhlar givct the wotd \n \iaa GtrmiMb bvdM«|* 


[5** .IL Ac.i. 15,71- 

Blood.— The want of preciMon m aonie popular 
Ideas ifl often very perplexing. I refer chiefly to 
the pride of birth. Id India, there is a strong pre- 
jtidioe againat the otispring of a European father 
and a HindusUmi m other, or, as they are called, 
EiMn»ian8. There fieems to be no really sound 
ethnological reason^ however, for thi» objection, 
and the Eurasian ia generally proud of his 
paternal origin. In England, on the contrary, 
feuraaians^ especially of the gentler sex, are often 
very much admired. One of the most Highland 
of all Highlanders I ever met was a mulatto, the 
legitimate son of an Aberdeenshire gentleman by 
a negro mother. Unfortunately, be took very 
much after the latter, und, for this accidental cir- 
cumstance, he was unable to enforce his pretensions 
in society, to be considered *' an armiger " and re- 
pi^eaentattTe of a good old family. Hts want of 
sufficient means, however, may have had a great 
deal to do with the cold water thrown on his just 

But it does not require, after all, a bond fide 
Norumn descent to make some men the ** proudest 
of tht proud/' Some of the most fastidious men 
I have ever known were not awure that they had 
no descent whatever beyond timt which is coromon 
to all ; but their hallucination had the good effect 
of making them courteous and honoumble. 

Again, the coromon expression, *' aristocratic 
looking," is equally applicuble to occasional 
indiYidualfl in all classes of society where a(!tual 
want is not found, and the converse holds good. 
The ** indecent clown " is not alone found in the 
Helds. S. 

Balzac and Shelley. — The Clvrutian World 
obaerves — 

'' In Balxac's talis of the Feau de Chagrin, the possessor 
fmda hifl ataukt sliTtnkingdfty by d&y^ond as it contracts 
to & span, BO hie life ehrlitlu away in equal proportionii." 

If we turn to Shelley^s Alastor^ we find some- 
thing very similiur. The enthusiast dies, gazing on 
the moon — 

" Still ai the dmded frame 
f>f the vast meteor sunk, the Poet's blood 
Thut ever heat in mystic wirinpatliy 
With nature's ebb antt tlow grew feebler »tilL 

..... 'till the miiiuteai ray 
Wm quetich'd^ the puke still lingered in his he&ri" 

There %b no plagiarism. I merely allnde to the 
two writers to show a similarity of ideas. Shelley's 
conception is more sublime than that of Balzac ; 
but we must be^r in mind that one occurs in a 
poem, the other is found in a prooe ronuinoe. 

although he eTidcntly does not know the Irish meaning 
of it, ma he tranilates it ** str&htea/' to beam or irmdijite. 
• There is m curious sayirt{,' in tbe West Indies tliat 
?nu can always detect bfack blood by ttic griitle of a 
man's nofe^ ». e., if he has black ancestry, the griffclv 
point of the nose has no division in it. 


PaRALLKL PA88AOSS (5**^ 8. L 466.)— 
*' Full many a flower is bom lo blnih unseen, 
And waste its sweetneta on the de«ert air." 

Compare Waller's song, " Go, lovely Kose," in J 
and 3rd stanzas: — 

'^Tetl her that '« youn^, 
And ihuns to have her graces spied. 

That bad'st thou tpning 
In deserts* where no men abide, 
Thou mujt have uncommend«d died. 

Smalt is the worth 
Of beauty from the light rvtit^d : 

Bid her come forth ^ 
Suffer herself to be deetrec^ 
And not blush so to be admired." 

J. w. w, 

Palixdromr, — I have met mth the foU owing ' 
one in Oamden^s Rfmainea, Camden says*^ — 

'* I will end with this of Odo, holding Master Df>ctoiir't ^M 
mule, and Aune with her table-cloth* wliich aM the ^M 
maker much foolish labour^ for it is a perfect rcr^e, and ^^ 
every word is the very same, both backward and for watd. 
* Odo tenet mulum, madidam mappam tenet Anna, 
Anna tenet mappam madidam, mulum tenet Odo/ " 

Fredk, RrLK. 

Dr. South and Thomas Fullkr,^ — In one of^ 
South's speeches, as Terr»*-filiti8, at the Ojffowl 
Comroem oration of 1657, he mentions, amon pother 
droll exuLggenitions of Fullers person and cha- 
nicter, that he was once nn unsuccessful eandidnte 
for a post AS sub-librarian in the gift of the Uni- 
versity of Oxford :— * ^ 

'^Unum hoc supereet notatu dignam, quod super 
Tacante Inferior is Btbliothecarii loco, Acudemiie noetrfe 
tuppHcavit per litenu, ut 6ibi iltum conferret : sed 
neimrit Academiaj^ nee ilium admtait BibliothecRrinm, 
ob nunc rationemi ne Bibliothecee scripta sua ingcrerel ! ' 

WTiiit position is here referred to, and is the 
petition extant ? One refuFes to believe that the 
fnct was made up by South. It is noteworthy 
that Heylyn twitted Fuller for this veiy speech, 
to whom the latter replied^ — 

*' For the seventeen years I Uved m Cftm^nV;^ I 
never heard any Prevaricator mention his jeaior [South 
was then only twenty-lour years old, Fuller double the 
igej bjf name: we count such partfCulaHsmff betiealh au 
Untvernty. ... I regret not lo be Aorile, for any in* 
genioua Nammtr to make pleasant mufiick on; but it 
•ecms my Traduoer was not so happy."— The App^nl o/ 
innir«d It^noemet, pL L« p* 28. 

J. E. Bailkt. 

"The Pickwick Papers."— During a recent 
visit to London, I remarked with snti-* <^ ^«"t* tliat 
tablets have been affixed to many n 
ex. gr.^ Franklin's house at Soutli i . ^^ton, 
Drj'den's house in Gerrard Street* Soho* &c. Re- 
gtinlinfj this as a most pmiseworthy act, I beg to 
suggest that one of these tablets should be put np 
on the wall of the bouse facing Woods Hot^^xl (the 
nght'hand entrance}, in Fumival's Inn, Holbom, 




IQ jYcord that in thAt hoti^ Charles Dickens wrote 
Th4 Piekmde Papen, F. D. F, 

Dr. Watts,— a great deal of fusg was njiwie 
lately by tkc newspApers bex^use Dr. Watts (the 
bicentenary of whose birth has just been celebrateil 
at Southampton), when only nineteen years of age, 
gare an impromptu description of the first miiaclo 
in the following words :— 

** Modc«t water, pressed by power dirtne, 
F%w its Lord, and blushed itMlf to wioA."* 

Si I Watts is not to hare the credit of 

Ui . si conceit. Richard Crasbaw, the poet, 

died tweoty-four years before Wiitts was born* 
Tbc ktter knew Latin well, and it is highly pro- 
bible he wivi iic*iuainted with the Latin poems and 
epj^mms which the fonuer composed while resident 
ftl Cambridge^ and which, doubtless, were more 
widely read during Watts's time than they are 
now. In this volume we find a reference to the 
miracle thus : — 

*' The eofifcloua water law lU Qod and blushed.*' 

Wm. Trant. 

The SiCK of Dr. Mead's Pictures in 1754. 
— The quarto sale catalogue of Dr. Mead's pictures 
in 1754 is very scarce. In the British Museuui is 
» oopy with the prices marked in ink ; but I have 
ADOtiier to which some person jittached, many 
yeATv since, Tfic Evening AdveitUcr^ dated, ** Lon- 
don, from Thursday f March 21, to Saturday, 
March 23, 1754.'' This newspaper was, in fact, a 
penny paper, if we deduct the halfpenny atamp, as 
the price wa* three hidfpuce. In it are given the 
following particulars, which are reprinted from the 
anginal newspaper. There is an octavo catalopie 
of I)r. Mead's pictures, published in 1755, but it 
is not a reprint of this quarto sale catalogue as the 
pictures are placed in a diflerent order. The 
former is ti descriptive eatalo^ue^ Many of the 
picture* have l>ecn engraved. In the above-named 
number of TA** Etxntng AdLHf\rtuer are recorded 
h^ death of Deistpade, the dancing master, and 
©enlence of ** Elizabeth Newton, for breaking 
I a Hou^e, to be uhipC^ Ralph N. James. 
bford> Kent. 

bo priced catalogue is too long for iosertioti. We 
fnmj, hitvifeTitr, remark, thai we collect from Tki Bveninff 
Advartutr that Dr. Mead's hundred and eixty pictures 
" in three nighU* fale for ;i.417t ll#. The 
ie« was realtied hy " An holy Pamilj with two 
itteiidiag^ and one playing on » Harp, Cariti 
Mff- V. ]5#. Thif was the laat lot aold on the 

(hi' lid aext hijrhett price wai fetched bj *'Sir 

T»3 "- '^'hmgih, Rubens," U5Ll0g. The 

W A Man'i Head, Com. Jantea, 

I/. ' went wan for " Mtt. Barber the 

nufi -iter Coluui-a, 1/. 9*." A thr«e-<]uarterB of 

I)r. ^ i. 1 y KiieU«r, went for 2L, and Walker'i Oliver 
CrukAwil, ^Uxee-quarten, for two guineas and a half.] 


[We must request correspondents desiring infomiatioii 
on family matteti of only private interetti to affix thair 
names and add r sss oa to their querieti in order that lh« 
answan may be addressed to them direct.] 


Wilt those who are able kindly help to perfett 
the following list I 

I give a tmnacript of the title-page within 
commas, followed by other particulars within 
brackets : — 

"A Treatise on Skating; founded on certain principW 
deduced from many years' experience : by which that 
noble exercise i« now reduced to an art, and may b^ 
taught and learned hy a regular method^ with both ease 
and safety. The whole itJustrated with copper plates, re- 
presenting the attitudes and graces. By R^ohert] Jones, 
LiGutenaQt of Artillery. . . . London, printed for the 
author : and sold by J. Ridley, in 8t, Jameses Street* 


[Svo., pp. xTi 64, 4 plates and 2 figa., 2s. 0d.] 

*' The Art of Skating, practically expl«ined« by Lieut. 
R. Jones, R,A., with revisions and additions br W. £. 
Cormock, Esq., with plates. .... Loudon : Bally Brothers^ 
3, Royal Exchange Buildings." 

(" Boily Brothers, printers.** 1855 ? 8vo. pp, 40, five 

"The Art of Skating practically explained. With 
plates. .... London : Baily Brothers, 3, Royal Exchange 

[** Baily Brothers," printcri. On wrapper, *'.,.. A. 

H, Baily «r Co 186f). Price one Shilling." 8fo., 

pp. 40^ 5 plates. This pamphlet and the preceding one 
are reprints, with slight alterations, of the 1772 pam 

"Garcin (J.), Yrai (le] patincur, ou principes sor Tart 
de patincr avec gr&ce, etc. Paris, Delevptnasse ; Be- 
Iftunay ; Nercu do TAuteur, 181S, iii-12. 1 fr. fX) c." 

This I find as an entry in torn. iii. p. 256, of 
Quii'mrd (J. M.), La France Littemire. 12 totn. 
Paris, 1827-64. 4to. I have not seen a copy. 

" The Art of Skating, containing directions for be- 
ginners, learners, and good skaters, and explaining all 
(he movements and figures. By a Skater. London: 
Basil Steuart, 139, Cheapride, 1$32.'* 

[*• R White k Son. printers, 25, New Street, Biihops- 
gate.*' 8?©., pp. 16. 7 plates. Plate 1 wa« ^* designed 
and lithographed by A- Gordon, 145, Btrmnd,"*] 

Who was the author ? 

**Thc Art of Skating; with plain dipections for the 
acquirement of the most difficult snd elegant moTemenU. 
By Cyclos, a member of the Glasgow 8kattng-Clab, 
Glasgow: Thomas Murray & Son, An?yl« Strsat 
London : David Bogue. Edinburgh : John Measles. 


[♦'John Neilson, printer, Trongate," 8to. pp. l-riii- 
80. 3 plates and a liihog.] 

A work on skating, published at Belfast, m 
noted in the preface.. I have not seen a copy of it. 

"John CjcIoA, mitglied des SchHttscbuhfahrerClubs 
SQ Glascow, die kunst des 8chlitt>chuhfarens, mit 
deutlichen anweisungvn rar erlernung der sohwierigsten 
und grastoiesten be wegungen. Z weite vermehrte aalegv* 
Mit 4 erliiutemden ufehi. Weimar. 1858, Verlsg^ 
dnickt und litbo/raphie von B. F. Volf^." 

[Sto.. pp. tiu-60. 4 |»\a\t%.^ 





Tho first edition of thi» txansktion I huvc not 

*'Tbe Art of Skating ; «ontftining niAny ^^ros noTier 
prcTiouEilj deeciibed, with iUuttmiiontt, dift^ratnn, and ' 
pljiiii directions for the acquirement of the niojit difficult 
and olegiiut nioTtment«. By George Audeiiaon (' Cychjg'), 
for nuaj Teikr» |>r»«ident of the GImrow Skatiu}; Club. 
Second edition. London : Horace Cox. 346, Htmud, 
"W f^ HUM " 

["Printed by Horace Cox/* 8to*, pp. Trlil*72. 8 

^TLe Art of skating; contttinitig ttiuij figures never 
preTiousl; Ue^cribci], with illufltrations. diaKrumt^, &tid 
pMn direct ioti» for the acquirement of the moet difficu't 
afld elegant mcrrein^nts. By George Anderson {** Cyoloi *') . 
Tice-preiident of the Cryital P&la«e Slmttng-Cliib. Third 
edition. London: Horace Cox, S46, Strand, W.C, 

[••Printed by Horace Cox." 8vo., pp. x-Sl 10 
plftteft and 5 figi., 3f. 6d,] 

'' T^yeiologie du patineur, oti definition complete dee 
principcs et de* r^-gles qui fl*appliquent A rez«reiee da 
patin pur un ancicu p^tiucur. Paris. Bentu, Libratre* 
Edittiur, l*alai6 Kuyal, galerie d'OrK'atls. ISfe. Tons 
droit« r»a«rT««/ 

f* Typogr»|>hic, Monnoyer Frtrea, Au M&ue ^SartLe).** 
12ino.,'pp. iT-lld, 6 Utliographs*] 

Who wfts the author ? 

<' Skates (The). ISmo., cL 75 cti. Boston, Maw. 
aaSoo., 1864** 

An entry in vol i. p. 193 of Kel!y (J.), The 
American Cat of Books (Jan., 1861, to Jan., 
1871). 2 Tola, New York md London, 1866-71. 

I hAYG not seen a copy, but suppose it to be a 
work reLiting to tsknting. Who was the author, 
and what is the full name of tbe ** Moafi, S. S. 

" out. E. L., Skater's Mannal. UeTitea ed. ISmo. 
pap. 10 cts, K. Y. A. Peck k Co., 1S67." 

This is another entry in Kelly's Am, Cai., vol* il, 
p. IGL I have neither seen this revised edition 
nor tJae edition of ^vbich it is i^ revision. 

** The Skater'a Text-Bnok, By Frank Swift, champion 
of America, ntid Marvin R. Clark, tbe noted akaiing 
critic* New York/' 

(" Entered, according to act of Coogreii, in the year 
ISflS. by Wm, H. Biihop and Marvin R, Clark, in the 
clerk's office of the district cotirt of the United States for 
the southern district of New York." *' John A. iJray JSi 
Oreen, printers, 16 aud IS, Jacob Street, New York.** 
12ino,, pp. ii-ll€. 7 cuts aud 3S figs., pap. 50 cts., cl 
75 eta 1 

"A System of Figure-Skating. Being the theory and 
practice of the art as developed in EnKluad^ with a 
ghmcoat its origin and hintory. By H.fenry] £<[uKene] 
Vanderrell, and Tfhomas] AlaxweinVithsmj meaihers 
of the Ltmdoii Sktitii»g Club. London : AlacmiJiuii k Co . 
186a The right of tnmstation and reproduction ia 

[" London, IL Clay, Sons k Taylor, printers, Bread 
Stveei HilL" Svo. pp. xviit-266. 4 double plates. Si 
figi. ^.] 

Thia la«t work ta sLraply admirable. The Bom- 
mary (pp. 98-99) of the ei^ht " main |>oints that will 
oonstitute a first-clas3 skaler, a» tTtttl«i of "* in tbe 

work, h probably worth more than all that Una 
previoualy been written on the subject — worth 
moret not only to those in their tyrociny in the 
art, but to the skater of many winters. 

I had the intention of transcribing these eight 
points, for they are contained in as many lines, 
but, on commencing, I felt in anticipation so like 
a thief that I delisted. There are a few line* 
which I feel free to t range ribe,-- these ; mi^ they 
bear abundant fruit, here or elsewhere : — 

" Should there be any readers of this work In possessiaa 
of any authentic information that would tcTui to tfirow 
farther light upon the origin, and extend t of 

skating, and would like, ia the interests io 

intruat it to the nuthors with a view tt> i..* ...,^. .u>«i. 
should thia work t;Ter reach a second edition, they will 
be happy to receive it^' (p. 35). 

Besides poaseasing the SyiteiH of ¥>■ '^^ 

the third edition (1973) of the Art of aid 

abo an American work — that of Swift iuid t'Luk, 
if there ia not a better one with which I am un- 
acquainted — should be read ; the facts (and fal- 
lacies) will then be before the reader, and his 
judgment may foUow. 

There is a distinct class of skating literatnre^ 
the "Specifications" relating to skating—-" PuV 
lished at the Great Seal Patent Office, 25,, South- 
ampton BiiildingSj Holbom,'' which I can only 
thus refer tc». Frxo, W. Fo&t&r. 

Dr. Thos. Reeve's "PtrnLiirE Dwonom; 

OH, A Collection of Pratees," London, 12tiiat 
leSL-'I should l>e glad to obtain from anv owner 
of this book one or two particulars of it. It ia not 
to be found in the public libraries. Though cata- 
logued in the British Museum Collection, the copy 
cannot now bs found. It beare, I am iiiformecj, 
an ** old Library " press-murk, and when the col» 
lection wiw re-marked, more than forty years affo* 
it was missing. It seems to be au earlier and 
unnoticed edition of ^* Pulpit Sparks: or, Chmcc 
Form^ of Prtwytr^ by fieveml lenrued and godly 
divines, used by them both !»ctuh3 and after 
Sermon,* London, 12mo., 1*^59, a copy of which b 
said to be aft Trinity College, Cambridge. An 
earlier edition of the same book apparently ia 
found on the regititer^ of Stationers' Ilall» Feb.^ 
16B3-4,^**A book containing y* or.iyers of I>r. 
(lillingham^ Dr. Reevf^^ Dr, Holdisworth, I>r. 
Tailor (Jcrremy), Mr. Goddjird, Mr. FuUcr, Mr. 
Harding, Mi. Machines t, and other divines, uaod 
before weir aermonB." 

'* Tor On^acn Revived,'' by J. R, 16«3, l2mo. 
— The querist wishes to make a reference to thi* 
scaroe book^ and would begmteful to any |)oasessor 
of it who would oblige him. Jomi B, Bails t. 

Stretfbrd, MaaclMster. 

Wtat, Wtatt, akd Wood Faitiijks, — I 
should be glad to be infonned as to the deccen- 

Us. ILA0«.8t74.] 



of Isiiac Wjat, of Bobbingwortb, Eas4>x^ who 
led Elizabeth Kid|;e, Mary Preston, and a 
MfA H»f»v wbo«e Daoie I do not know ; of Edward 
Wv Hiking, EaseiLj who in:irried Jane, 

nee* > r :iiid co-heiress of Wilton Brown, 

of ! X ; of Edwurd Wyut, of Rcat^ 

wh'* iiik^ daughter of H, Duigky, of 

ChiulUai, \Vurcy«ite.rshire ; and of Thoraa* Wyat, 
of Brivxt4;d, Esaer, in 1624^ who married Saj&h, 
' Icr and heireas of Paid Ambrose Vincent^ of 
n, goldmiiith. Several of the Wyat faniily 
have resided at Tillinghaiu, Essex* in 
nth centur}% Geor^'e Wyatt, of SL 
fs, Westminster, son of John Wyatt by 
wife Elizabeth (Browne), muTied 23rd July 
^ at p. 44>9), 1722, at St. Paul\ 
n^ Hannah Wood, of St. Margaret^ 
but of her family I have gxeaned 
nothing, nor do I know where her birth, on 2(itU 
aber^ 1703, toi>k place, or who her mother 
I find a Thomas Wood, Vestry Clerk of St. 
*»^ Westiuinater, in 1733. 

REijiNALD Stewart Boddinoton, 
15, M^rkhMn 



BiBUooaAPnicAL desciiptiona of tho following 
woritt are r^iuested :^ 

The Russian edition of J. B. dn Halde*s De- 
seriBiion of China, Have any editions of this 
wodc been pobUshed in other languages besides 
Frenrh, Entrliisli, German, and Russian l 

'/e du Gouiwrmmrnt CJiinois^ Paris, 
nne SilhouettCj Comptroller of the 
LQ Fmnce in 17r>9. Is this the exact 
i AS it been translated ? 

''>h edition of Osbeck's J^avehi to 

ili' Have they been published in 

Unjru Piv^ niner than German (17t>5} and English 


Hare the Ldtres Edifianiu been published in 

'^ other than French, German (Stockletz), 



AirrRORs' Najtvb wanted of the following :— 

I. AbboM of ShaftBtbury ; or, the Days of John of 
GMaL A Tttleu hand., Kivingtoo, 1846. 

IL Abbatflinere. A Tale. By Miury Gertrude. Load.. 

II. Acwlemic Error*; or, Kecollectiani of Youth. By 
a Member of the rniveraity of Cambridge. Load., 

4 The Acftdian Cofle of Signals. ... By a Prai^liciil 
fWUsfmplliit. . . . Load,. W. L«wii, St Joba'a Square, 
lSt7 (•£« Qtfdtimiin^** Magaxint^ part L p. 439). 

& AM>9»|i1libe<l Hypticrtte; or. Bran Glitter? mor« 

Hoi O^hL A Moral Tale iu two vols. Ey A. U 

UmL, a. £, Newman, 1822. 

6. Acrofli ilie ChanaeL By Theophilat Oper. 13^. 
Ulphar Hamst. 

JM BanMl, Herts. 

Srasstourrro. — I want a rompl««te ILgt of this 
, «MiraCel pamters* worits. A genilemfiu of mv 

acquaintance has pecently purohasod n iv.iTiMMrf of 
St. Jerome, which represents the sairi' ng 

position, gazing earnestly upon a skull . _ : tiu, 
on an aoclivity of a cave or hermitage. The 
picture is more than two hundred years old, as the 
canvas and frame are of very old manu^tore. 
The reason I have for wantiog a list of Spugnoletto*8 
paintings is this, viz., the painting was bought 
under nither peculiar circunistances, and was 
always said to be his; my friend paid rather a 
high price for it, and wishes to satisfy himself i\s to 
ib* authenticity. Chalmers, in his /■ 'ad 

Didionarify wjs, " St. Jerome was one ^ ng 

subjects; he painted, he etched him, m iiuuitTous 
repetitions, in whole lengths and half Bgures." I 
shall be very much obliged to any one who will 
kindly give the list, Frederick Ovrrtok. 

*'The Sword wEARiN«t out the Scabbard," — 
Lord Byron, in a letter, uae^ the erprcsiion in 
reference to himself, that " the sword is wearing 
out the scabbard/* Cnrlyle, in his Lif$ of John 
Sttrling^ says tlmt be wore l^ola lu the oatmird 
case of his body by his restless vitality, which 
could not otherwise find vent ; and, in a bio- 
graphical notice of the painter Titian, it is said 
that, in extreme old age, his soul was keen und 
brilliant, Uke a sword which had worn out its 
scabbard. The expression, with little variation^ 
has been frequently employed by writers sinoe 
ByroR'^ time. Is it to be found in the works of 
any author prior to the noble poet 1 W. A. C. 


Haytian Poet. — I have a cutting some yeara 
old from the New York fribuntr which reads :— 

"There is a simple and beautiful itftuaii— beautiful 
becauM aimple — ^whioh I found in a book of poems by a 
Haytiaci author. It U written ; of course the origtoal 
{whi{:li 1 have loit) is in Freacfa, bat my traxulation is 
Tery literal^ containmg one word only— /(itn^y — ^wMoh 
if noi in the author's verse :— 

* Last Wisb or a Motssr. 

O God ! Bhe faintly said, ap«n ber dying bed. 
If I have followed Thy divine baheil* 
As my entire reward grant this rcoaef t : 

Makti mo the guardian angol to my bab«s when dead ! ' ** 

Can any reader supply the orieinjil and the 
author's name ? \V. E. A. A* 

Gipsy Marriage.— In the Tinww list of mar- 
riages on July 21, 1S74, appeared the two follow- 
ing curious announcements : — 

•^On the 11th instant, at Valid Herr^^« Norway* 
Uubert i^mitU, E«q., the authnr of Tin.t L^h vUk Knffluh 
OipnifM tji 3'onctiy, to Ksmeriilda, the fleroine of his 

*• On Ihellth initant, Adreg ValUi Philllaain, Xorvray^ 
the Rve Hut*«rt 9aiiUit E^t., romado to Tkrno E^mef^ 
alda Look, who pooken covah tiafa to law Bomanj 

' lW>tTOW*»Rwn«wiLo,TolAA^*^ 



[5*^ 8. IL Aco. 8, 74 

"Oa the 11th, in ifao &e«, Korw&y, the Noble Hubert 
Smith, Esq,, married to Tftroo, kc, whotftlks bewitching 
words to laugh at her Gipsy hrethreiL'* 

Am I right 1 • Pelaoius. 

OsTEMAN. — Win some one be good enough to 
state what is the meaning of this tenii i To what 
IMTofeBsion, trade, or craft does it apply f It t>L*curs 
in Bome Chancery proeeedinf^rg in 1677, in which 
one Thomas Armorer, of Newcaade-npon-Tyne, is 
described as ** Ostenmn/^ HalUwell gives " Oust " 
(1) as curd for cheese (north), and (2) as a kiln for 
ID alt or hops (Kent)* Does it, in the present case, 
signify *^ maltster"! John Maclkax. 


"Little Poems for Little READKR8."^In 
this little volume, recently published by Ront- 
iedge & Son, there is one called ** The Orphan a/* 
the fiist line of which is, — 

"* My clmiao the Tillage inn had gained." 
These simple verses I have known for forty years, 
having been taught them by mj father, five and 
thirty years dead. Can any one inform me who is 
their author 1 JoeN Bowes. 

John CHtmcHiu^ M.P. for Newtown, 167a — 
What authority is there for identifying him with 
the great Duke of IMarlhorough i Fosa ideotifies 
him with Sir John Churchill, Master of the Rolls ; 
bnt he was knighted before 1679, and woidd have 
been described with the handle to his name, 
Coxe says that Alarlboroiigh never sat in the House 
of Commons, Alfred B. Beavejj, M,A. 


Albizzia sericocephala. — Thia is a tree of 
Southern Kordofan, and is described in Dr. 
Schwcinfurth'a Heart of AfriccL, But there m one 
point in this description, oa it appears in the 
English translation (1674, 2nd edit., vol. i. p. 144)^ 
which I am unable to comprehend. The translator 
thus gives it : " The finely-articulated, mimosa- 
like leaf consists of from 5,0<30 to 6,0110 particles." 
** Particles '^ cannot be right. Can the proper 
word be pints f Jabez. 

AtheaoBum Club. 

" KiKG CoAL*fl Lkv^" — 1m the author known 

" Kinijc Goafs Lev^e, or G&olopcal Etiquette, with 
Explanatory Notes, and the Council of the Metak; also 
Baron Baaalfs Tour, 3rd ed. 12aio. 1819," 

which I lind in a recent catalogue 1 


The Templars akd Hospitajllerb.— I should 
be much obliged to any corre,'*pondent who will 
t^O me the distinctive symbols or badges of the 
Templars and Hospitallers, Did not a change 
take place in that (or those) of the Templars \ 

T. W. Webb. 

•* Mr. Fry, te Ki:ng's Coal Porter.-' — I haT 
a miniature portrait in water-oolours, on 
inscribed in pencil lis above. It represents a mad 
with aquiline nose, blue eyes, and deep hcdlows i 
his cheek. As the face is in profile, one cheek onl| 
can be seen. He has a blue e«at, red waistcoati 
and white neckerchief. Was this man a celebrity? 
W, H. Pattersox* 

** Haroun Alompra, or the Hunter Chief/ 
— Who is the author of this drama, acted at Pori 
mouth Theatre, April 19, 18241 He is said 
have been a lit-erary gentleman of Portsmouth, i 
'' kmght of the hincet.*^ R, Inolis. 

Col. Valentine Wauton. — What wb« 
name of the father of Col Valentine Wauioo, \ 
Walton, the regicide ? 

Is anything known of the present whereabout! 
of the manuscript of the History of fht Cttnl Wan 
which Valentine Walton is said, by Heame, to 
have written (Heame's Diary, 2nd edit., iii, 108)?| 


Sandwich Islands. — Wanted the date of bu 
and death of the lute Princess Victoria Kamamahi; 
sister of the two former kings, Kamehameha IV J 
and V. J NO. A. Fowler. 

" GrpsT QrEEN.'^— Who is the composer of i 
GipsTf Quetn, m whlvh ike wonis ** Ride forth, rid 
forth, ye rolling thunders of the night *^ occur I 


Domingo GoNSALEa* — Is the authorship know 
of a curious fiction (of which I have a copy of ih 
Bec:*nd edit., printed 1768), entitled Th^^. ^Stranff 
Voyage a7id A(h:entur(ia of Dmningo Gorvnalet ( 
the ffVW in the Moon f D. A, 

{5^ S. ii. 41,) 
The amount of learned ingenuity which 
been expended in mystilication of the clear and 
explanation of the simple is perfectly amnzii 
An eminent instance of this occurs in the retuarfe 
of Mr. H. H. Gibus on the word hike in Chaucet! 
To ordinary readers, the passage in the HV/V oj| 
Both's Tak presents no difficulty. The knighti 
errant is sent forth by the Queen to ascertain^ o^ 
pain of death, within " a twelvemonth and a dayij 

*• What thing it is that women most desiren.' 
In answer to his inquiries, he receives the mo 
cfkntlicting opinions ; but, by the aid of a witch ( 
fairy, he ultimately solves the question 
factorily : — 

" Women detiren to bin BoveruinetAe 
As well over hir huiboud a« hir Iot», 
And for to ben in inaidtrie him above,* 




This I§ ihfi kej to all the illiistmtroDs of femsile 
chAroct4>r in the* iyifit of JJatfii Tak, and will 
motcruiJty aid iq the expknution of any doubtfal 
piummgiBA^ if euch there be. 

The vajioijB fominine proclivities are treated in 
•P|idUtU« panigr^phs, beginning ^^ Some saiden'* 
tbiSi tbdit, and the other. One paragraph is de- 
voted to women's lore of flattery, to which succeeds 
another on their propensity to have their own way, 
indopendent of reproof. Mr. Gibbs takes lialf of 
the farmer para^aph, and reads it as if it belonged 
to the ktt4;r, with which it ha« no manner of con- 
nexioHt and thu$ imports a factitious meaninf? 
into whttt ia atmightforward and easy if taken by 
it0cl£ It is necesaarj to quote the whole para- 

" And lome mpn saldeti, thiit we Icrren b«it 
For to be free, vid do right ns at le«t, 
And tb&t no nmn repreve u» of our rice, 
Eot tsy thmi we ben wise Rod nothing nice* 
For trewelv ther n'is non of ui all, 
If any wij^lii wnl claw na on the gtUl, 
That we n 11) tiie, for that be eaith us ooth : 
AMay^ and he thai find it that bo doth. 
For be we nerer bo ricioufi witbinne. 
We wol be holden wiie, and dene of sitine." 

Hit meaning of the panage aurely lies on the 
ntcfiioe The reference is sunihir to that in 
HamUt : — 

' •• It touches U8 not, 

Let the galled jade wince \ our withers are unwrung." 

Golly Fr. ^afe, is a sore place, a scab, a Riw ; 
when this is touched, or " clawed," the jade will 
irijic** and kick. So says our text ; the woman^ 
wbi ition is daimd in a sore pliu^ 

mc- ly will huh. Let any one tiy, and 

he &h'Ui rnKi it that so dotL 

The application m so obvious, that very powerful 
reasooi would be required for giving any other 

Mr. Gibbs «iy«, " Kikf (or hjkt) is evidently 
the tuodeni kuk, meaning to peep or look .... 
m huk signifying a stolen glance/' Subsequently 
ht uiieipret« it as looking pleiiaed, aod so applies 
ii in the passage in question. Kfeking^ then, 
wxittid be equivalent to ogling or leering. Let us 
see how thi* view is borne out by the evidence. 

He 9tky»j *^Our Irvdt, with it^ short t\ would seem 
la r«<}iiir<» a form kikktn in Early English ; but 
the t m kike is long, like the Ae in kuk,^' Why so? 
Hie p<rofody of the line — 

•• That we a ill tile for he teitb us Booth/' 
fN[nlre« the final e in kike to be sounded. It will 
tie fcmnd that the short i suits the measure much 
better than the long. 

T -ts have searched a long way round 

foi ition which lay all the time at their 

Tt-r There can be no doubt that it is 

d^i\ 1 r in Cymric tieiaii\ t-o kick, from ciV, the 

Tb« old Kagliftb word ke^k^ kttk, or hjkty is now 

princijially confined to the Scottish, It is of Low 
German or Scandinavian origin, Dan, kige, Swcd. 
kiki\ Dutch kijken, Flemish JbJc^cH, allied, no doubts 
with High Ger. gitckcn^ pli having the primary 
meaning of the English word ** peep,*' — as Jamie- 
son expkinB it, *' to look with a prying eye/' ** to 
spy narrowly," "to look by stealth,** as in the follow* 
ing examples : — 

"By double way take kepe 
First for thyn owoe ettate to l^ke.^* 

Gower, Can/, A mantti, 
" Then euld I cost me to keik in kirk and in market*^ 

**Keek into the draw well^ 

Janet^ Janet, 
There ye 'U see yer pretty eel, 
My jo Janet'' 

Old Scotch Song. 
** Conceal yoursel as weel -t ye can 
Prao critical disgection, 
But leel: thro' every other man 
Wr Abarpened, sly inapection.** 

Bama'i MputU to a Fating Friend. 

A ke^king-ginsSy a looking-^lass ; a ^^il'-hole, li 
peep-hole. The same meaning will be found uni- 
forniJy adopted by Chaucer : — 

** This Nicholai eat ever gaping upright 
Aa be hod kvkid on the newe moonc.'* 

MiU€r*i Tale, 3445. 
" loto the roof they kyken and they gape.** 


In none of these, nor in any other passage, can I 
find the least tiuce of the sense of ogling or look- 
ing pleased, Katber the reverse ; the feeling of 
anxious gazing. Jamie&on, it in true, gives us a 
secondary meaning of keek, **t.o take a stolen 
glance ^ ; but stolen glances fire not necessjArily 
amatory nor cheerful ; in the great majority oif 
cases they are the reverse, 

I cannot help, therefore, coming to the con- 
clusion that the proposed emendation is forced 
and unnatural^ and is not sustained by the reasons 
brought for^^anl in its defence. J. A, Pictok, 

Sandyknowc, Warertroe. 

I am much surprbed nt the extraordinary mean- 
ing assigned by IMr, Gibbs to the word kike in 
Chaucer, It simply me^ns to kick^ and nothing 
else. The mistake hai* ari^n from mistaking the 
whole drift of the passage. What the Wife of 
Bath really wiys is thii* : ** Some said, that we are 
most eased in our hearts when we are flattered and 
praised. And I will not deny that such a one 
comes very near to the truth. A man will beat 
win us by flattery ; and by attention and constant 
waiting upon we are all alike caught, both the 
greatest and the least of us." So far we have ons 
opinion ; bat we are next introduced to an opinion 
of a totally diflerent cbanictor. The good hidy 
goes on to say : " And somt said, that we like best 
to be free, and to do just whatever we please ; and 
that no one ought to reptovci xaiot m\^ lax!i.V»\»LV 




ought to say that we are always wise, and never 
fooliah. For tnily there ia not one of iis all, but 
— if any one mbs us upon the &ore placn — will be 
sure to' kickj merely buciiaso he dares to say the 
truth* Try it, and he who does so will fi_nd it as 
I sii}\ For ho we vex vicious we are at heart, we 
like to be considered prudent and free fipoin sin." 
How tbia passage can be forced into any other 
ineaninjT, I do not understand. On the one hand, 
women are aaid to be pleased with untrue tlattery; 
|On the other, they are displeased with unflattaring 
'truth* The one they receive with jjraciousiiesa 
And smiles, the other they kick at and resent. 

The word kike^ to kick, is in Wiclifs Bible, 
Acts ix. 5 ] with a pait tense kikid^ Beut, xxxiu 15 ; 
and a past tenae plond kikidimy 2 Kings yi. 6. 
Thut Chaucer also employs the word in the diJTerent 
sense of to p^cp, is, of course, granted ; but how 
the sense of puplng can have any place here, 1 do 
not see. We have no smthority for niaking it 
signify to look vdth approi^al; it b tin ply means to 
[peep, gaze, or look about seaixhingly without 
either approval or diaapprovaJ, Surely, too, the 
galled jade winces, not poe^ about. 

Walter W. Skeat. 


2880 — This forms the last line of the eighth verse 
i>f that rare old Gkucestershire baUiwl, George 
Jiiflkfis Oi'^en; and us it is good enough to be more 
^ widely known, although printed in HidliweJl's 
Froi\ and Arch. Dtc/., and in Dr. Latbani'sj Eng- 
Uak Langtiage^ vol. ii., it would, 1 am sure, please 
the taste of many of your renders to see it given 
at length in "N. & Q./" where it would be in 
keeprng with similar bnliad litemture to which 
you have already acconled space. It is remarkable 
that a society of charita I lie aiui^ called the ** Glouces- 
tershire Society," meet annuidly at the White 
Lion Hotel, in Bristol, where it« meinbera dine 
together, and retain the custom of Hinging this 
song of Omrgc li idler's Orm directly after the 
removal of the cloth. I shoidd like to know the 
on gin of the society, and the date of the song, 
which they thus so pleasantly perpetuate. — 



The Btowni that built Georce Ridler's Oven, 
And Ihany geum from the Bteokeney's quor; 
And Geor^se lie wur n jolly old nion, 
And his yead it gmw'd above his yarc. 

One thing of Genrge Ridlor I rautt commend^ 

And thftt if»ure not a notablo theng ; 

He niQud bii brA^^ ftvoore he died, 

We any dree brothers hiM zona I'hou^d zeng. 

There's Dick the treble and John the meao. 
Let every nion zin< in hia au\ni pkoce ; 
And Cieorgc he war tbc older brothfcr^ 
And thcrevoor« he would ling the beosf. 

Mine hotfcoft^a moid (ftod her neniiiii *twnr ^eU) 
A prcttv wenoh anrj I lov'd Iter well ; 
I li>v'd htr well, good reaoioa why; 
Because »be lot'd my dog and L 

3(y dog lA good to cftteh a hen^ 
A duck or goose is rood for mtin ; 
And where good ootnpnny I soy, 
ihethergwoes my aog and I. 

My rn ' I I whou I wur yonngji 

If I di 10 strong beer pwoot» 

That <..w-.« ... .*id pruT my xuverdronry 
And meauk me wov a threitd-bara owoiU. 

My dog has gotten zHcb a trick. 
To visit moids when thauy be xick : 
When tbaoy be zick and like to die, 
O tliether gwoei my dog and I. 


When I have dree zispenees under mj ihumbi 
O then I be weleotne wherever I oome ; 
liut when I have none, O then I pMt bf, 
'Tls poverty pe&rts good company. 

If I tbould die, as it mav hap« 
My groauve shall be under the goodyeftl i 
In rouled carms there wool ui lit^ 
Cheek by juwl my dog aiid L"' 


F, a 

" When my o'erlay was white as the foara on the Umif^ 
And my pouches were eliukiu' wi' siller wUhin ; 
When my lambkuiB were blcatin' on meadow an* bi 
As 1 hied to my sweetheart, I snog a' the way : 

Kind was &be, an* my freens they were free, 

Bat Poverty puirts guid company ! 

We met at the fair, and we met at the kirk. 
Wo met i' the sunshine, we met V the mirk : 
And the a^mnd o' her voice, an* the blink o' her e*«« 
Seemed a Pjiradise opened for ever to me ! 

Leaves frae the tree* at Marti'mas ilee, 

Aud Poverty pairts gold company ! 

Wharever I gaed^ the blythe lasses smiled sweety 
An' mlthert an' aanties were mair than discreet; 
While kebbuok an' becker were »et on the boskrd; 
But noo thejr pass by me, on' never a word ! 

8ne 1st It be, — for the warldly an' she 

Wi' Poverty keep nac coropimio ! " 

A, T. 

This Bong is in Allan Cunninghu»u'« *Songi^ 
ScMlajtd, i 33i>* It is called '' Todlen Ham 
and begins — 

" When I hae eaxpenee under my thumb.'* 
According to Cunuingham, it is uot luodem, hm 
vcrj' old, 0. F. S. WAAaKN, M.A. 

This song was first inserted in an nnnuoli a 
ship's Offering, Stkphk.v Jackbom 

A CtTRious Relic of Old Calcutta (a^ | 
i. 4600 — T*>*^ second verse in thi« Teiy 

C« 8.11. Ana. 8k7«.J 



intcraiiing haUiwl-epiUiph probably refers to 
rawnMDd't earliest recollections of some locai 
Dier between the Koundheada and RoyalisU 
(tlie Iftit days of Cromwell, when the country 
t in a disturbed state, and Hucb collisions were 
[jucnt. **An Ashbumhttm ! '^ ** A Fairfax!" 
Woild naturally be the war-cries of the different 
bctiooF, even if these two leaders were not actually 
prreeent, A^hburnhom (John) being one of Ohtirles 
Ub moat devoted adbereota and followers, and Fair- 
lut being the great Parliamentary leader. From the 
POffding of reifie 2, I ahoald infer that J, Towns- 
md was not himaelf engaged In the fray described, 
^ he ia sappo«ed, when dying, to refer to 
^ early recollectioa : — 

*' H»rk how the Corflleti ring ! 
f are the Blackamiths out to-day^ b«atijig thoae mea 
i th« fpring ! " ^c. 

The ailuisiona to Fairlight Church and Fairlight 

in the next verse point to Sussex and the 

*{id of Hastings as the scene of Joseph 

early recollections. The Aahbum- 

un ancient and distingtiiahed Sussex 

h makes it all the more probable that 

joumham "' would be the representative 

L of the Royalist party in that district. 

abmnoes of the skirmish in verse 1 pro- 

diKTibe an event which happened many 

before the seizure of J. Townsend by the 

verae 2, immediately before his in- 

I marriage. No doubt ver^e 3 describes (as 
^our eomepondent suggests) the rescne of two 

widows from the funeral pile — one of 

[ infer became the " nut-brown bride " of J- 

t and the mother of " Young Joe," who 

r 60 ^' at the time of hia father's death 

i 86. LiNDIS. 

^S. Jo«*eph Townsend died in 1738, aged 86. 
riljinh. Ho was therefore born several years 

II of Mara ton Moor and Naseby 
and one year after the battle of 
. His earliest recollections could^ 

t^t ' of the loctil skirmishes following 

^ iu variouA parts of Enghuid. 

BoSTXT HotisE OF Aiblie" (5»"> S. ii. 28. 

I beg the Editor kindly to giant me a 

apace in his valuable pages ] I am aa 

puzzled as ever, though in a different way. 

own I had forgotten, when I wrote my 

the destruction of Airlie Castle took 

ft Montrose's rupture with the Cove- 

I \d ignorance of the fact, but 

iy ' 'ly forjjot it. Of course, as 

[whom 1 !'► - Miani for his kind reply) 

aie, it V, I I Ih- quite natural to iind 

ftji'' '• '' iji._' tit lyt J^.t.-t I'njHir^nt 

oi ' lUa 1 l:iu:im| fL'.ti'-i'' the 

ef Ar^'ie s (Statement, that " fh*^ nt'tl wan 

§nppCfUd by Montrose,'' with Hpoldingi 

account, nor with iboee quoted by Mr. Mark 
Napier, in a note to Montran and the CovmaTUert, 
as follows : — 

"Biihop Guthrie recordft that, in the 3rearl640* Argyte 
per»uted in destroying the hoa»e of Airlie, with wham 
lie wiM at personul feud^ id though Montrose had put a 
garrison Into it^ and hbd written to Argyle to that effect." 

James Gordon, in his MS., has this account :— 
" Thus far is certain, that .... Montrose, with a 
party, was the first who besieged Airlie, and left the 
prosecution of it to Arjryle, who," A'c. Here follow 
Arigyle^s atrocities. The passages I have omitted 
contain merely a discussion whether the right diito 
of these events is, 1639 or 1641). 

If the- Duke really meant no more tluin this, I 
cannot see why be should have spoken of it a^ a 
new and accidental discovery, when it was all to 
he found in Spalding and Guthrie, and more easily 
in Napier. Still less can I underatand how he 
could have called this *' actively supporting the 
raid.'* According to Guthrie, Montrose w;w 
directly opposed to it ; according to Spalding and 
Gordon, he had nothing to do with it, but his own 
proceedings against Airlie had been distinct from 
ArgyleX and quite different from themr-'« 
different as the cbarsurtei^ of the two men. Still, 
perhaps thL^ is all that was meant, and I have in- 
tortjreted a passage in a playful speech too literally 
and seriously. If so, mj^ excuse m my dcMre 
for historical infonnation, and my ten] for the 
memory of one, the details of whose career, I 
firmly believe, have no need to fear the strongest 
light. M. L. 

**TiiB Althortk PicraRE Gallbut": -Mart 
J. JouRDAN (5*^ S. I 348, 435, 516 ; ii. 70.)— I 
wish to add a few particulars to Mn. Mason's 
accx>unt of thtf -Juunlan family, which may interest 
him and (iLrnAtt Hamst. The " weaver," Jolin 
Jourdau, was the grandson of Anthony Jourdao, 
of Toulouse, who was one of the band of noble 
refugees who sacrificed their property and their 
natiomd ties for the sake of religion and con- 
science, at the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes. 
Many of thens established themselves in the silk 
trade, in consequence of their connexions in the 
South of France, Amon^ these was John Jourdan^ 
who, in partnership with Mr. D'Albiac (grandfather 
of the Duchess of Roxhurfrh), carried on the busi- 
ness of a ailk'Weaver in i^pitalfielda. Hia wife, 
Susjinna, was the third daujfhter of John Jacob 
Zornlin (my grandfather), of the finu of Battier & 
Zovnlin, who ranked very high among the English 
merchants of the last century. 

Colonel Jourdan was married early in the year 
1S15, in Java, where he held a high official ap- 

S^intment. Borne of his children died young, 
enry Francis Holcombe wn* the first who attained 
maturity. The amiorifd bearing^ of lU\^ Jci\«A3&.\k 
(or Jourdnin) familT ate — ^\e%, % etos* ^v\i«^ ^'i 




crest, a mailed anu em bowed, holding a cutksa* 
It is Dot in my power to j^ve any infonnation 
respeetmg Mjiry J. Jourdan, except thut she was 
the daughter of Colonel Mokombt^ not Haloombe. 

2. Z. 

TURQDET DE M AT ERNE (5^ S. H 48.) — Ifl thia, 

or TuiNftiet Mayerne, the real name t It appea,ra, 
1 believe J in the latter form in a volume of hia 
works in the British Museum Libmrv. 

T. W. Webb. 

To Proat (5*^ S. ii. 49.)— To proat is the G. 
protttHj to show one's ill will or displeasure by a 
surly silence. — Kiittner* A somewhat ditfei^nt 
form of the word is given by Hnlliwell^ " Prutttn, 
to be proud, to hold up the head with pride and 
disdain." The origin of the foregoing, as well an 
of the CI. trotzen, is to be found in the interjection 
of displeasure, prut ! trut I representing a blurt 
of the mouth with the protruded lip«. See Pout in 
my Dictionary. H. Wjsdowood. 

Hiilliwell has pride, " to wander about like a 
young ehild/- and this, 1 take it, is a f«rui of the 
word for which F. H. inquires. W. T. M. 

8biii3e1d Gro?€. 

Mart of Buttermeue (G*^ S. I 47.) — In 
"N. & qj' !•' S. viii. 26, under the heading of 
"GossippiDg Hisjtory/' ia ti note of mine on De 
Quincey'fl account of Hatfield. I have nothing 
to add or alter, but wisti to withdraw an opinion 
too hastily fomied. I said, "I do not blame Mr. 
De Quincey, having no doubt that he believed 
what he was toid.'' When I MnAe that 1 was 
Ttading the Boston edition of his works. Long 
before I came to the end I felt thut the compliment 
waa entirely undeaer^'ed, for which, I think, satis- 

ifactoiT reaaons are given in " Leslie and Dr. 

r^iddleton/' 1*» S. X. 33. H. B, C. 

U. U. Club. 

Alderwan Joun Poeter (S**^ S, ii. 67) was 
MP. for Evesham in pait of one Parliamentj vi?.., 
from the general election of 1754 until his death, 
[April 11, 1750. Alfred B. Beaven, M.A. 

AUibone, in his Dictionary^ savs that Sir James 
Porter died at Bath. C. F, S. Warren, M.A. 

Toe Ftndern Monument in Childrey 
CiiLitcn (5^1* S. ii, C8.)-P. wdl find a descrip- 
tion of the Fynderne brasses, with a copy of the 
inscriptionB on them, in Ashniole^s Btrh(^ vol. ii., 
pp. 20H, 2(H}, and 210, of the edition of 1711) : 
al^jn Chu'ke's Hundred of Wanlintj, pp. 7(1 
aiicr77. C. J. Eystok. 

See Eelton'a Skdchu of C7ittrr/*<s«, London, 
1843, for a plate and full descn^tion in the 
Hccompiiuying text. It in a hnwa of a peenlinr 

character, the crosses of the figures being filled witj 
lead. The figure of Sir William Fynderne to 
knees is in Boutell's BroMes antl SlahA^ p. 
London, 1847. A description of the monumeil 
wiJl also be found in the Oxford Manual, NJ 
168, p. 61. SiAMUKL Shaw. 

The Willow Pattern (5*»» S. ii. 60.)— S«ct 
Family Friend (Houlston k Stoneman, Ijondoo 
vol i. p, 124. H. FisHwicE, F.S.A. ' 

Vide Benil^y'^i Miscdlany, vol iii„ p. 61, pu 
llshed in 1838, where will be found "A Tn 
History of the Celebrated Wedgwood Hieroglyp 
commoidy called the WiUow Pattern," by Ma 
Lemon. WiLLiAii WlNU. 

Steeple Aston^ Oi^ord. 

Histort of ScoTULNn (5**' S, ii. 6ft.)- 
Ma. Ma SOX, who i» goo<i enough to apf>ea1 to i 
as to this work, will turn to that admirable Cd 
lo^ue of the Printed Books in tht Adm 
Library, now printing, on p. 680 of vol. iL he ^ 
find that William Dull', M.A., waa the author i 
the work he inquires for. See also Lowndes ' 
Bohn, p. 2215. Allibone mentions an edition of 
1750, probably after Watt, to whose Bihiiothica ^ 
amnofc refer here. I take thin opportunity ~ 
thanking Ma, Mason for Ixia reply on p. 70. 

Olfoaji Hamst, 

New Bimet^ Utris. 

^'LiKE** AS A Conjunction (5^^ S, I 67, 111 
157, 176, 237,498; ii, 97.)— I am surprised f 
Mr. Furmvall cannot see, in the jm^^ 
quote-s from Henry VII I. ^ that the | ^ 
which goveniB the you is understood : — 
** Not a ni&n in England 
Clin adrisc me liko [nHto] you." 

It is a parallel paasage to that whicb I 
quoted from the same play :— 

" Said I for this the girl wiua lilce to hi 
So in the passage from Pmc/<**f,* — 
" And knowing this kingdom i« witboat a head. 
Like [untQ or tu] goodly buildings left without n 

In Cowden Clarke's Concordance thexe is a refei 
Tan^mf, Act i. bc 2, " like to a nymph.*^ In 
only Shabq^mre that I can refer to, being a^ 
fn>ni home, I find the to h omitted, *' Enter Arji 
like a water nymph." To what edition did 
writer of the Coivcordanct refer I Clariit* 

**HuDiBRAs^^ (51*" S. i. 489: 5t"» S. ii 3^.> 
The Rev. Dr. T. R. Nash, in his edition of HuJ 
hrm (1835), remarks in a note to these lin«s f 
559-5G2, Part I. canto i.) :— 

"Thu« Clcvfiland, pApc HO, *Tho next intrrr(!i'«nf I 
a diufnalis plots, horribb plots, mhich wiM 
Mgocity it hunts dry foot, while they are i 

causes, before materia prima can put on herMnor* 

Nichols (LiUrary Illtuh-atiom, edition 182 

**8.11. 4li«.S>74] 



ToL ir. p. 246) gives a letter from the Rev, Mon- 
tnini Bacon to Dr. Zachary Grey on the same 
eiibj<yrt : — 

**B««irord, Aug. 31,1746. 
^ Bev. Sir,— Going by tbis way, I send you thi» i&luta- 
tkn. I »m much ppe*Bcd in tny jyurney, othenviic I 
might p«rhftp4 venture to caU upon you. I eend you a 
pAMAgv from Regnier (Sat. 1<J), the fftinoua rrencb 
tfttiriftt, whom, I am sure, Butler bad read. 
** I anil rev. Sir, your moit obedient bumble aerrant, 

" M. lUvam. 
** 'Qu'mi ttm Globe il « reu bi mAtiere premiere.' 
^ ''8o BudlbrM aayi, 

' Firat matter be bod seen uodreia't, 
B«foro one rag of form waa on,* 
" B^^ier deikcnbcA his pedant so. 
"So llilton {Far. Lost, hook 7) detcribea Light at fint, 
'dphear'd in a radiant cloud (for yet the sun wna not).'" 

In a very rare iittk' book, Note^ itpon Hndibras, 
by Zachary Grey, LL.D., 1752, there is a note 
{p. 23), timed M. B. (Montagu Bacon), which after 
quoting the above line from llegnier gontmuea:^ — 

"And 'ti§ manifeit, from tbo Context, that Butltr 
meaiu only a Ridicule on tbe Utrtnelick QiJbbtTukf wbere 
there i« mucb Talk of Fini Matter, and Cha4u, and 
F%r*t MaUf and iticb Stuff: And by fHr$i Matter tbev 
miill Materia and Forma ; whicb appears from a Book 
«ttlillid A tkoTi Ihquirif into tAe Jfrrmtttck Artf P. 79." 

The lines, then, are not ^* stipposcd to pomt to a 
iicuUir individual,'' but are "only a Ridicule 
io the Hermetick Gibberish." 

Sparks Hendebsok Williams. 
18. Keoun^oQ Crefcent, W. 

I OQ t 

Siv,;r,i.- Fve^Glasses (5«» S. i. 489; il 50,)— 
what E. D. F. says. I have used a 
ji ft eye only for about twenty years, 
1 now Hnd that in shooting I invariably fire too 
' 1 to the lefL I have tried to counteract it by 
ling the left eye, at the reooumiendatioD of an 
ent gunmaker^ and as that is very difiicult 
lys to do, he now reeommendB me to blacken 
L iIm left gkss of my shooting speetpacles,— we shall 
rith what result. Black Eye. 

ZlKXAV Street ip^ S, ii. 9, 53.)— A Reatling 

|rtMd*-Book flays tliat " Zinzan Street most pro- 

hM^ .»-«.'-. its name from Dr. Zinzani^ a gentle- 

I extraction, who had a residence in 

_L — a_.^, i firing the laat century." 

H. JL Kenxedt. 

'\Y or TUEiH Times" (5** S. I 408; 
k that is often priced according to 
I it at the «alea of famous colIection» ; 
uiwdly to l>e had at iu proper value. 
cost me u few shillings. The same 
riiy in pn^ne as is iu D. G. E/b copy 
'' I take to be i - ' t 
r»g the book >i 
J jji <_i«j>i|ninion volume jitumi. »Mf 
Uodtm< ProttMtAifit iHviufM la of far greater nurity, 

but I have seen it on sale at much less priees than 
those named by Mb. Bccklet, the copy in my 
possession having Wen bought for about one-fifth 
of the sum. It appears to have been acquired by 
Mr, Mitford in 18i4, and he has added the dat© 
when he read it, vix., **Sept. 1836,'* with the note, 
" See Brit, Bibliog,, vol I p. 47 S." The engraved 
front, has been most cleverly imitated by pen and 
ink. J. E. Bailet. 

SoNOfl IS **Rokeby" (5** S. I 428, 515.)— 
Writing my fonner note on this subject hurriedly, 
I omitted from it the moat beautiful of the songs: — 
" Brignall banks are wild and fair, 
And Greta woods are green ; 
And you may gather garlands there 
Would grace a summer queen.'' 

Canto iii. ituixa 1^ 
John Pickford, M.A. 

Kntoht Biorn : DifREE's ETcHiKog (5^ S. I 
167, 215, 356,) — I suppose the ** snare " mentioned 
by Mr. Holt and Mr. Addis in the ** Knight 
and Death " is the curious twisted line near the 
hoof of the horse's off hind leg. I have the auto- 
type of the etching before me, and believe that 
Mn Runkin and Mr. Addis have undoubtedly 
explained it. I think the readers of " N. & Q? 
would be gbd to have the picture in rjnestion and 
the MiUticoliaj its companion, interpreted on Mr. 
Addis's theory by that gentleman. The one 
seems to me the type of **The Steadfast Wiiy 
the Melmcolia of " The Intermittent, too versatile 
Will,** — tendencies to which latter the artist, if 
he were not more Ihaa human, must have felt and 
deplored in himself. Pelaoius. 

Field-Lore : Carr, Ino, &c. (4'** S. xi. xii. ; 
5'^ S. Lpaanm; ii, 71,) — M. inquires what is the 
meaning of Flagfi^ and suggests it may be re- 
claimed bog. In this parish, there is a marshy 
place in the bills known as the Flush- mow, in 
which peats were formerly c^ist^ but it ha3 been 
surface- drained, and is now grazed by sheep. 
There is a farm of the same name near Stewruton 
in Ayrshire, and the name Flofh occurs as the de- 
signation of two or three pUices in Annandale. 
Halliwell (fifth edition) has FlmchCj *'a pit or 
pool " ; but, in the old English couplet quoted as 
an example, the word will apply equally well to a 
marnh. See, too, Flnsh, Floih, 

I\at hag^ also mentioned by ^L, is a common 
term here for the hollows made by casting peat. 

Another name applied here to marshy places is 
coflru^ which appears to be the same as carsc, and 
to have some connexion with carr, W. E. 

Riilewater, Roxburghshirt. 

**8iTiTATK" (5"» S. 1. 407; ii. 53,)— SioMA aska, 
*'^ Are there any examples of the Uise of the word »» 
a verb by any respectable writer T* Iipl ^jni\ 
Labowr*$ Lo^^ Act i. ac. ^, XimtsAo wbcj^^ — 




'( I will TiBLt thee mi the lodge. 
Jarj. ThRt'a hereby. 
Arm. I know where it ia situate/* 
Again, Com4dif of Errors^ Act ii. sc. 1, Lucianft 
sajra, — - 

*♦ Wby, headstrong libertr is tash'd with woe. 
Tbr're 's notbing aituatc under HeaTen*B eyv 
But hath hLs boond/' 

I Bhould be glad to know whether grammariaUB 
won Id call "situate" in tliese two pru^t^iges an 
adjrctivc. H. B. Purton. 


Faixonet, the Aetist (5*^ S. ii. 8^ 54.) — Mn* 
TkiMMEa will find Bome interesting and mithentic 
facts about the Falconets in Jal*6 IHctionnaire 
CHtique de Biographic ti tVRistoiri. See the 
Kecond editionj and refer also to the corrections at 
the end of the voluni«* Olphar Hamst. 

INVERTED Commas (5^ S. i. ptutnm ; ii 37, &6, 
97r) — I differ very much from Jabez. I have 
proved (from Timperly) that these marks were 
originally used (1496) for the purpose of quotation 
only. Other writers have shown that tliey were 
afu^rwivrds employed for emphagixiog aho, but not 
befui'e the time of Queen Elizabeth ; and when they 
cejued to be used in this latter way, Ym» not been 

As to the *^ modern instance " from tlie Tim£M^ 
it is ({uite clear that the word ** accomplished " is 
not used there according- to its real meaning, but 
aocording to its misapplication ; and it is therefore 
quok'd in this sense, and marked accordingly. 


Ohahles L as a Poet (b^ B. I 322, 379, 435; 
ii. 93.)— Before this subject ia dismisfled, I would 
he^ leAve to auote a possa^ ficom the late Pro- 
fessor Craik's LikratuTe and Learning in-England^ 
ed. 1845, vol iv. p. 66:— 

'' It ia not easy to understand the meftninc^ of Horace 
Wal|iole'a judKinent on Charlea'e fityle* that *it «m4» 
formed bitwt^n a certain portion of ieiuf, diffuit^, and 
perfmps a little injtinetriitj.' What he ray a of a co^iy of 
vcrrcs Raid to bare been "written by hia mjijesty during 
hlH cnndnenaent in Cafi.^brook Castle, is more to the 
pur|ki>8e : * Thepo€trjfU m&st »ncotit/t and inharmonious; 
but tfare arc strong ihov^kh t« if, #omf ^ood tense, and a 
Mtrain. of majeittic pieti/.^ Though uot very polished, 
iideed, or very like the ppodaction of a pructiscd versifier, 
vbich goei so far to forniish a preaamption of its authtin- 
ticity. tbia coniposition. which is entitled ' MajeKiy in 
Miftrry, or an hnploraiiou to the King of Kingi,' mdi- 
calei pnet^c feeling, and an evident familiarity with the 
hi^be«t models. " 

The ahove quotations from Horace Walpole are 
out of his Koyal and Noble Authors. J. W. W. 

Key. Stephen Cuauke (S^ S. i. 208, 255, 298, 
438; ii. 77.)~PtT»vincial printing if a subject that 
has diiinied my attention for a year or two pasi^ 
\)ut I ha ye at present failed to discover an earlier 
3j)ccimen of Mai ton printing than a tract quoted 

by Archde.aoon Cotton in his Typo^phical Ca 
Uitr, of whicb the following is a collation : — 

^'Modest and Candid Retlections on Dr. Mtddleton'i 
Examination of the Right Reverend the Lord Biibap ef' 
London'^ Use and Intent of Prophecy : In a Letter t> 
the Honourable O. Lyttelton, Eaq., from Thomas Cob- 
bor, A^. 

** Matton : Printed by J. N. for Mesara. Eti 
Book sell er^i in St. Paul't Cburoh yard, m^scc^u 
One 8liillin^ and Six-pence.! 12niOw pp. 100. 
from Eaat-Newton, Feb. 3d, 1750." 

The second edition of Rev. BteinbeiQ 

£>ijfcour««, being postlmiaous, may be as late 
later than this : it is certainly after 1746, for 
that year I find Mr. Clarke hubacribing ll Ot. 1 
the Yorkshire Astsociation. 

Mr. RoViei't Bavies, in his Memoirt of the York 
Prcfiity tells us that Nicholas Nickson* priiit4»r, I 
came a freeman of York by patrimony in 17* 
and carried on business till 1777. What relatifll 
was he, if any, to Joshua Nickson, of Mai ton f 

W* H. A1.LKUTT. 

Rev. Samuel Hardi% B.A- (5*^ S. iL 
55), the author of many astronomical and 
logicjil works, was bom in 172(>, and 
a Fellow of Emanuel College-, Canibridjfre. 
a sermon of his, entitled The E ' ■ ' ' protfi 
io he a MtUerial Sacrijux; an 
of CoTtstant Covirnvnion ; proved ft ^fi^ <"' N^it 
of ilu ChriMian Coreyiani, pretwibed on " Go 
Friday, April the 8th, 1748,'* I find he 
then *' Curate of L^yhamJ^ He was afterwan 
Rector of Blakenham Parva, Suffolk, and '. 
and Master of the Fre-e School at 
His moat important work seems to ba-f 
an edition of the New Teetajiient, 
Bcholiifi Theologicis et Philolopcis," pufc 
anonymously in 1768, and a^in in 1778. A tliil 
edition appeared in 182t>. He died in 1793. 

Spares Hendersok Whjuaio. 

18t Kensingrton Croiceat, W. 

In my copy of the Account of the Nahirc nud 
E7uh of the 'Eoly Encharifit:, 12mo.^ Htja, I fi^ 
the following, in the handwriting of llie " 
Wm. Lajlon, fifty years rector of St. Haiti 
I|>s\vich : — 

" Hardy, Sam. Etoan. A.B.» 1741; i«ctor of Blake 
Parva 17ti4 ; niany year* lecturer and maiter cf the 1 
School at Enfield. He died at Tottetibam, Dec. 1 1, 17 
aged 73." 

On the title of bis book on the Eucharist, be | 
said to be curate of St. Clement^s, Ipswich. 
believe he was resident in this town many y« 
consequently he oomes into my collection of Ip 
wich authors. I find I have the following : — 

*'An Answer to Mr. Chubba Enquiry concerning At> 
demption ; the Substance of Niue Sermons at L^lmii 
Suffolk. 8vo. Ipswich, 1744." 

" Not. Testamentum Graeenm : ciiin aohollif Tbed*<t 
Phil 2 vols. Bvo., 1768." 




** A TniMlAttoo of SeberSfif 'fl Tr&Atife oo the Emen- 
ifttt - * 'v rtridil Tdeicofvfs; with ExflooAtory 2i{o4ea. 

pie PrtifpheGi«€ : compiired atid explftimd. 

Jahes Kea.d. 
Ipvwich, SI, CbnhilL 

"T ,. OF WiGMORK (f)"* S. L 18S, 234, 

3:^ - ; iL 37.:h—The chief object of Mb. 

Stu>3:- iQ^Liiry S4?enis to be whence such a ein- 
Jar title as Mortimer De Mortuo Marl could 
en derived ; an interestiDg quefition, atnd 
_ich none of your correspondent baa at- 
lf«d to answer, Mr. Ettoit snyi that Ealph 
de Slortemer, to whom William I, ffave Cleobury 
ftod Wigmore. carae from castle Mortenjon in 
Konaftody. How so mimed, I did not atteniprt to 
0QcpbiirK i-xcf^nr thnt T iviinti^sl *iiir flint tli»>re was 
ftt dueai 

f»f«| . ^ ^ I iijrtimer 

wiw u scion, and the Kast» Diike Ko>>ert, father of 
Williiun, went on a pilgrimage to the Holy Lund, 
and died iit Nica?a, in Bithynia ; some of the junior 
itietnberB ol* the fornily may have accompanied hinu 
The trreat Eiirl Ilo;j:er de Montgomery, another 
iiiem>>**r iif the family, woe no exUled from \im 
castle of Mont^'omeri, in Norraandy, the mins of 
which nrr, I believe^ stUl standing. The name of 
ihi« cu-Htlc, lb*' Mount of Gomer^ wxitten in Latin 
I I>c Alonte <_romerico, may also have r^tilted 
^jrimage. A»ra Minor, where Duke 
13 said to have been r>eopled by the 
f <;..,.-,,>. tjjQ ^jj (jf Jivpheth, Gaul 
li(?ia, one of the provinces. 
■-•^ :.^ r-a..,l in ,v 1 .. fanciful and 

and J «' if a more 

lots rme cv" i , ^ Ltd. I have 

Eibout it, and, a short time before I 
E^s query, I wrote to " N. & Q./' ask- 
j if it wiiv knoim how Mauley or Mawley came 
br written in Latin De Mtilo Lacu. This, 1 
mu&t have some relation to De Mortuo 
Mr. Evton says that the Baton name of 
^vrlLV, near Cleobury, waa Melela, and that it 
irranted with other manors to the Mortimens 
lt!i V Dr. Ainawortb, who was a bit of 

«ti - the Latin aynonymB of these 

llir«^' pu liivtui'!^, Avit h others, at the end of his hatin 
DidtSammy ; and I bive no doubt they are all to 
he found tn Latin ohroniclea, though I have only 
nmi with Bern ortuomari, William Purtok, 

SH Episcopal Skes (fl*** S. ii. 

i Haated (History of Ktnt) we 

the Arcbbi*<hop«^ of Cunterbuiy 

their «eoA a>i ^* dorobemencis 

time of the Narman Cdotjooftt, 

hi^^ ^aU «Uii;tp, c«n It (Cftfit^rbttry) Portfmrm'a, 
0, which M iald to be id uJd atme. Th* 

Saxoiw called thia city Ctmi-^arn-hifrtj, iVf,, the Keatfib 
men's city. The Lntin^ tifterwrird^ mod<!ttod it to Can- 
twanVz, and the EtU£)i»h tci iu precent iiauio of Ciinier- 
bttry, by which it bus be«n ta general caJHed, from about 
the time of the Normun Conquest.*' 

Of the other!», two are quite claar, natnely, 
** SciraburnenBis ciritatis,^ and " sclesego eccle«i£B 
episcopua/' meaning reapectively, as your corre- 
spondent supposes, the Whops of Sherborne End 

In Dugdale {MonoKih^oni^ voL i. p, 137, loL 
16fi2) wo have an account of certain epineopal se^ 
founded in the kingdom of Mercia— nve in num- 
ber — 4UQon£ which occur the names Ltogora and 
Syddma^ which seem in some degree to answer to 
ie4foreiiau and gytitUttMi^, but to what towns these 
refer I am quite unable to gay. On " dammucft? 
civitatifl episcopus/' unless it be Doranoc— Dun- 
wich^ I oin throw no light at all. Other readea 
better inibmied may do better for your querist. 

The document I quote from is headed, — 
** Jj£ ponttfiaUi »tdtt guomodo primitut itainia 9U 
Wigomaj ; «t di pos*tMi&hibnM tpiet a rt§fbv», tuftrmvI^K 
€t <k bonmr^^t td al lonu Ttru dtita Mtnl W igorzwmi tedMim* 
Edmukd Tinv, M«A« 

GoDwiT (5**» S. i. 129, 212.)— After having been 
80 buffeted by Ma. Tkw and others for my 
explanation of Milton's **Grim feature/' I very 
humbly venture to su^^gest that as the Knot, the 
&liore- companion of the God wit, is undoubtedly 
named after Canute, ho the God wit catriea on the 
fame of the famous Earl Godwin, of the Goodwin 
Sands. Morris {Brit, Bitih) gives ** Godwyn *' as 
a synonym of God wit. Pklaoius, 

Elizabeth CASfKiwa (5*^ 8. it, 27, 75.) — A good 
summary of the chief points of the evidence on 
both sides is given in the Gmtlmaanti Ma^asine, 

It is singular that Mr. Paget, who has evidently* 
read the aooount in the 8tate Trials moet carefully, 
should have overlooked the note at the end of the 
volume, in which the date of Canninff^ death is 
given. Mr. Paget says {JudiHal Pumm, p. 886), 
*' the la^ notice we find of her is contained in tIftB 
Annval Regitterfof 1761 "; whereas, in the SUst^ 
Trxah, he might have seen a reference to the 
Gmtlrman'i Magarme for August, 1773 (vol. xliii. 
pp. 412, 413), whi'-^ Tiifntiona Cunmng^s death aa 
occurring ut " Wt i, in Connecticut, Nortb 

Americji," on the ^„i J uly in that year. 

By-the-way, the exinict from the Anmial Re- 
gistrr^ quoted by Mr. Paget ^ represents that 
*' Elizabeth Canning is arrivtd in Englandf and 
i6oeived a le^cy of hml, left her thi^e ye^kn «g9 
Ijy «& old h^y of Newington Green ^'; whereas tSt 
GmiUmum*9 Ma^txxmt «iys, ^In Augost, 17^ 
she waa sent by her friends to Kew Enghnid, mfcam 
ihe ktu resided ever tijuA,^ 

Ajlfrsd 6. Beayix^ VLk^ 


[6*^ a IL Am 8,1* 


K0TE9 ON BOOKS, lea 
LftUrii adilre^ed to ThomoA Htarne^ M.A,,, of 

Edmund Hall, Edited by Frederic Ouvry, 

M.A- (London, Privately Printed.) 
The late Rev. Joseph Stevenson haviog made 
copies of certain letters among the Rawlinson 
31 bS. which are preserved in the Bodleian 
Library, presented those transcripts to Mr. Ouvry. 
This geDtlem&ii, whoee litemiy and antiquarian 
taates are well known to all who enjoy his friend- 
ahip or have the honour of his acquaintance, 
believing that these letters are of considerable 
interest, hm^ in liberal spirit, printed them, and 
giren copies to his friends. 

The collection conaista of fifty-five letters, 
extending in date from January, 1705, to 
November, 173l>. Among the writers are the 
names of Bishop Wilson, Henry DodweO, Hilkiah 
Bedford, Dr. Richard Mead, John Anetis, and 
George Hcarae. The last was the father of ThoniiLs, 
His letters are by far the quaintest in the book. 
The old parish clerk had a hard time of it. His 
only pride was in the scholarship and the com- 
parative success in life of his son^ from whom the 
aire oceaaionally asked for the gift of a pair or 
two of stockings^ a shirt, and some comfort against 

Thorough Jacobite, sincere and savage Tory as 
Hearne was, he was on very good terms with 
numerous Whig friends, f^ome of whom apjiear 
also to have been on equally good terms with all 
who would help them to make life not merely 
tolerable, but "joDy." Among the illustrations 
of the manners and morals of the day, there is a 
striking one in a letter of old George Hearne-s^ in 
which he says :— '* At Kerscomb, Squire AJdworth 
having invited some Gentlemen to dinner on Bun- 
day the 6th of March, which, I think, they naid 
was his Birthday, there was, among the rest, Owen 
Buckingham, Esq., of Reading ; it so happened 
that in the evening Mr. Aid worth and he had 
aom words, and went out from the house soni 
distance and, they aay, drew, and Mr. Aldworth'a 
hard fate was to kill Mr. Buckingham on the 
spot." Hospitable dinners and angry dif^putanta 
often came to this conclusion. It only remains for 
«a to congratulate those who possess copies of this 
book through the generosity of the editor. 

MacmUtanU Maganiu. No. 178, August. (MacmiUan 

& Co.) 
Tuis is a capita] number. The Uadmg articlo on "Victor 
Hugo*8 Dramaa'* {by Caraille BarT<r«) will please 
drarri&tlc reiuleis ceneraUy, and the ghost of Madame d© 
S£rign6 in particular; for M. l^n^e spe«k» dia- 
para^ngly of Racine, for which wc too mre profound I jr 
thankful. For example :—** The tragedies of Hacine 
are abtolately dull ; and the few spectator! *BritannicaB' 
«in master now-adA7« are thow who nippoee that 
Maciue iB juimlrable, and mast, in conaequcnoe, be yawned 


oyer, with due respect to hii great but unfettered ^eniu^ 
What can be more dreary than the emphaik tirndet or 
those pompous and oxtra-humiin persoDages who entwinal 
the simplest expresriitYna with pmphraset and cireum-^ 
locutions, and, insteitd of ' 11 est minoit/ give ui this 
cart and neatty put euphemism ?— 

' Du haut do ma demeof e, 

Seigneur, I'horloge eoSn Bonne la doozieine heare.* 
The lines quoted by M. Barr^re rotnind ut of a Ktmlli 
stilted passage in Saurin*8 tragedy, Biveritf tlatelj w-j 
ferred to byoureioellcnt French coutcmponLry, Vin' 
mediairti: — 


Qa*entre tos maiDSi, Moniieur, Ton ta'a dtt de reuiettre. 

M. Barrtjre, in the course of the above article* in»»* 
takes Edmund Kcan, " the great English actor/* for hii 
sou Charlesi. 

Diu Karl Elzr has published, at Despati (Loitd< 
Williams k Norgnte), a pretty and, \s * ' nl4, 

perfect edition of Rowlej's chroniclohi ' T" 

IW Sdi Me, V*.m Know Mf.^ Dr. K , '^'^ 

Introduction and Notes; and he state* i*f Ikwwley' 
play, with its boisterous Henry VIIL, th»t it 
aU probability serred i^hake8pea^e as an inducemenl 
dramatize the life of Henry V^IIl."' The whole vdai 
refiecte the greateit cre-Jit on Dr. Eh« at a 
scholar, chronicler, and critic. 

Wb have onlv space to make farther record here t/t 
Mr, Cornelius firown't Noiu upon NotU (Nottingbai- 
Formen). which is a most amusing rolume. and one 
be used for reference as well as amusement. To tH>oktl 
on London, Mesera. Bemrose hare added a tctj graceful 
one» illustrating the history of 8t, Bartholomew'^ l*\' 
Church, with pictorial illustrations by 0. I 
and last^but not least, Messrs. Ktng&Go.ha«i 
the second volume of their handy and handsou.. l-l... • 
of Tennyson. 


At the recent Festival of the Printers* Ponaion 
Corporation, Mr. Walter spoke of th« early cfTortt 
of his father as a printer, and expressed I 
that he himself had not been practically i 
in the art ; and he referred to the vast inilut^u-.*' oi 
machinery in promoting the development of the 

The TimeSj as we know, was established in the 
year 1788. From the first the question of 
luachinery became a study, and improvetnent at 
I'ejieated intervals has been the result. Tlio 
machinery employed Jifty yean a^, 1824» o'ulil 
not give out more than twelve to hfteen hur»*iit'i 
copies per hour. The Applegarth, or " mangU? " 
machine, introduced, we believe, about the year 
1.H30, was a great improvement upon its predecea- 
sors, and gave a decided Htimulus to the wd<*. 
With the present machinery (the '* Walter "i tlh 
«peed is at the rate of twelve thtmsand per li 
It was^ however, the fiscal restriction imp' 
upon the pres.^ that retarded Ita progresa, 
have looked carefully over a copy of the Tifn* i 
the l8t of January,' 1824, a small sheet of i 
pages only, and have arrived at the conclusion tii a 
for that one day*s issue its proprietors paid no l»:*i 





a sum tlian IBlL in taxes to the State. Xo 
mitigiition of these Uwd took place until 1836, 
'when the advertisement duty^ the compulsory' 
stamp, and the paper duty were all reduced. The 
prosperity of the uewspoperB, of course, dates from 
that tirne. 

In 1824 there were published in the United 
Kingtlom 266 papere in all, thus divided: London, 
31 ; ill the countiy, 135 ; in Ireland, 58; in Scot- 
land, 33 ; in the British Islands, 0. In the present 
year the aggregate number is 1,585. Eatimating 
the news sheets printed in 1824, we cannot place 
the number at more than thirty millions of sheets. 
At the present period, we do not doubt that the 
issue m sue hundred and fifty millions of sheets 
per .annum. 

The Post-Office Directory for the year 1824 
©Tea the names of 136 master printers in London. 
Tl ie present year's Directory crives the names of 777. 

We subjoin the list of daily piipers:, morning 
and evening, published in 1824. The curiousi in 
such matters should examine the li^t of weekly 
papers issued in London at that period, and also 
the lists including the country papers, and for 
Trnl^inr]. Bcotland, and the British Islands. 


Ikitiih Press, 

MomiDK Advertiser. 
Public Ledger* 





New Times. 


Daily Evtmnt^. 
BHtiih Traveller. Star. 

Courier. Staklman. 

Globe and Traveller. Sun. 

From the Athencmm of /tUjf 25. 

In continuation of the alx)ve a correspondent 
ffives the list of all papers published in the United 
Kingdom in the ye&r 1824: — 

Fanner't Journal. County Chronicle. 

Monday f WfdnekUijf, and Friday, 
Mreulng Mail. London Packet. 

Tuetday, Thurtdayf and Saturday, 
£iiglith Chroiuclo. 8t. James's Chronicle, 

Twfday and Saturday. 
London Oaxetlc. Hue and Cry^ every 3d week. 

• WedntAday, 

British Mercury* 

Iaw Advertiser. Law Chroniote. 

^m Law Gazette. 







jFriday—II&ldwin't Journal. Saturday — Literary 
ISaturday—Cobbett's U^&B" 2ette. 

tor. „ Museum. 

Idtemrj Chronicle. „ WestmiDSterGaiette. 

Britisij Monitor. 
BeU*fi Mcjsengcr. 
John Bull. 
The News. 
Bcirs Life. 


Sundaj Monitor and Ee- 

Ke&l John BulL 
Weekly Regiatcr. 
t» Gazette. 
Sunday Times. 
Beming B Ej^preis. 
The (juardiaa. 


Bath Chronicle. 
^ , JoumaL 
„ Herald. 

f, and Cheltenham Ga* 
Berwick Advertiser. 
Birmingham Gazette. 

,, Chroaiole. 

Blackburn Mail, 

,f Journal. 
BoUoa Express. 
Boston Gazette. 
Brighton Herald. 

„ Oasette. 

,f Chronicle. 
Bristol Gazette, 

„ JoumaL 

», Mirror. 

„ Mercury. 

„ ObserTor, 
Beccles Chronicle. 
Bury Post. 

^ G«xette. 
Cambridge Chronicle. 
Cambrian (Smransea). 
Ciy-marthen JouruiJ. 
Cajliale JoumaL 

„ Patriot. 
Chelmsford Chronicle* 

Cheltenham Chronicle. 
Cheater Chronicle. 

ff Courant. 

„ Guardian. 
Colchester Gaxette. 
Cornwall Gaxette (Truro). 
County Chronicle. 

„ Herald. 
CoTentry Mercury. 

„ Herald. 
Cumberland Pacquet. 
Derby MercuiT. 

„ Reporter 
DevizeB Gazette. 
Devonshire Freeholder, 
DorcUeBter JoumaL 
Dorset Chronicle. 
Don caster Gazette. 
Durham Advertiser. 

n Chronicle. 
Essex Herald (CbelmAford). 
Exeter Flying Post 

„ Gaxette. 

y, News. 
Gloucester Joamal. 
,f Herald. 

Hampshire Chronicle 

Hamp§hlre Telegraph 



Hereford JoumaJ. 

Hull Pocket. 
♦♦ Advertiser. 
,, Rockingham. 

Huntingdon Gazette. 

Ipswich JoumaJ. 

kentish Gazette (Canter- 

Kentish Chronicle (Caater> 

Kent Herald (Canterbury). 

„ Mercury. 
Lancaster Gazette. 
Leeds Intelli^nocr. 

,, Mercury. 
Leeds Independent. 
Leicester Journal. 

fy Chronicle. 
Litch&etd Mercury. 
Liverpool General Adver* 

„ Advertisen 

ff Saturday's 


,1 Courier. 

„ Mercury. 

1^ Mercantile 


Moccleafield Courier. 

Maidstone JoumaL 


ManchcBtor Mercury, 

,, Herald. 

,, Chronicle. 

,» Gaxette. 

ft Volunteer* 

„ Guardian. 

Newcastle Courant. 

„ Chronicle. 
Northampton Mercury, 
Norfulk Chronicle. 
Norwich Mercury. 
Nottingham Journal. 

„ Review. 

North Wales Gaietie (Ban- 
Ofwestry Herald, 
Oxford Journal. 
,, Herald. 
Plymouth Telegraph. 
Plymouth and Dock Jour* 

Pottery Gaxette (Hanky). 
Preston Chronicle. 
Heading Mercury. 
Rochester Gazette. 
Sahsbury Journal. 
Salopian JoumaL 
Shrewsbury Chronicle. 
Sheibome Morcory. 




Sheffield Iri8. 
„ Mercury. 

Southamptoti Chronick* 

Stamford Mercury. 

„ News. 
SUffon!abire Advertiter. 
Stockport Advertuer. 
Suffolk Cbroniole (IpRWich). 
Sussex Advertiser (Lewes). 

„ Chronicle. 
Tftunton Courier 
WakeSeld Journal, 
"Warwick Advertiser. 

Guernsey Qaxette. Jcrtey Constitutional. 

,f ' Mercury, Manks Advertiser, 

,, 8tar. „ 8u«. 

Jersey British Press. „ Man. 

„ Gazette (Mourant*a). 


Aberdeen Joum*]. Edinburgh Star. 

f, Chronicle. „ Weekly Chromcle, 

Arbroath Review (Mon- „ Scotsman. 

trose). M Observer. 

Ayr Advertiser. Fife Herald. 

„ and Wigtonshipo Cottt- Obsgow Courier. 

Westmoreland Advertiser. 

West Briton (Truro), 
Wjeatcrn fjuniinary. 
Weymouth G»xette. 
Whitehaven Gazette. 
Winrls42ir Express and Bucks 

Wolverhampton Cbroniole. 
Worcester Jou rnal. 
York Counmt, 

,, Cbronicla. 

ff Herald. 

,1 OaKette. 

Cupar ilenild, 
Dumfries Journal. 
♦♦ Courier. 
Dundee Advertiser* 

„ Courier, 
Edinbmigh Caledonian Mer- 
fp Evening: Courant. 
„ Advertiser. 
^ G^isctte. 
„ Weekly JoumaL 

Armaj^h Volunteer. 
Athtoue Herald. 
Del last Newsletter. 

„ Commercial Chro- 

„ Irishman. 
Corloiv Morning Post. 
Caran Herald. 
Cork Mercantile Chronicle. 
„ Advertiser. 
„ Conslitutlon. 
,j Mercury. 
„ Sou them Reporter* 
Clare Journal. 
Oonmel Herald. 

,, Advertiser. 
Connaught Advertiser. 
Dublin Antidote. 

„ Evening Post. 

„ Freeman's Journal. 

„ Sannder'a Newslet- 

yf Morning Post 

„ Correspondent 

,, Goietle. 

„ Faulkner's Journal. 

„ Weekly Freeroan*8, 

„ Farmer's Journal. 

,, Hibernian Journal. 

,^ JKrenJmr Heralds 

'„ Journal- 
„ Chronicle. 
„ Sentinsl. 
Greenock Advertiser, 
Inverness Journal. 
„ Courier. 
Kclso Mail, 

,, Weekly Journal, 
Montrose Chronicle. 
Perth Cuurier. 
Stirling JoumaL 
Ibihs Pafek9. 

Dublin Evening Mall. 

J, Times, 

„ Commercial Gazette. 

„ Weekly Register. 

„ Mercantile Adver* 

„ Hue and Cry. 
Dro^heda Journal, 
Ennis Chronicle. 
Enniskillen Chronicle. 
Gal way Chronicle. 

J, Advorti«or. 
Kerry Western Herald. 

„ Evening Post. 
Ivtlkonny Moderator. 
Limerick Clinmicle. 

,, Evening Post. 
Lein^ter Juumah 
Londriiiderry JotiraaL 
Mayo Cnnstitution. 
Newry Telegraph. 
Sligo Joumjti. 
Strabane Morning Post 
Tuam Gasette. 
Ulster Chrouiote. 
Watorford Cbrontclc. 

,t Mirror. 
Westmeath Journal. 
Wexford Hsrald. J. F. 

TsR GoLPBN BoBi.— Tliii Talncd compliment from 
the Pope has been given this year to the Baronue ViglaTt 
formerly Sophie CruTelli, aud'a Queen of Song, 

The *' Sbrrwbburt Show/' — This remuout of tha «] 
Corpus Christl festival vraa celebrated this year 
renewed spirit and splendour. 



Pai^trnlar* of Pricif. &e,, ot vwrvf boolr t« bt iPDt 4|rMl| If- 
L H !• requlrnl^ urtioM oamc &&tt Midrmt iff 

uUTelllatoiTofan&iBilUia. SUti«r Ibv fttilh 

W«n(«d by itev. «r. ^siBM^tt, Kioflirmiaia StMSti MAX 

Ocitiir'n Africa. 1 Vol- foU<K 

TuiMiiciKrih TniT«U in fi. Africa. 1 vol. 4|o. 

Ann other Old Tr&<r«Ueri In !$. Afrim, in «ajr Sfodcm Eurmasa 

Wanted br Mr. H. BqU^A, Gljcut* TerrMe, LbthmIw mn. 


fL\iiitt€ to CarrftfpattGrnitH, 

R. S— T.— Ravaillac asserted that twice^ at the sign 
the *' Ecce Homo,*' near Estampes, the idea rame ii 
bis head to kill Henri IV. Th< liteg^d br] 

RaTaillao were that th« king atou! J I ^uaieaP< 

the Refurmed Beligiou to become II .,.^-. ..aho1iai»ai!i4 
thai lie tin was about to make wsr '' against God, inas- 
much as the Hope i:* God, and God the Pupe."— See the 
*' Trial of Ravailloc," at the end of the Mrmoirwdv SuU^ 

M, T. Prbstow.— The line is neither PofMi'i 
Drydcu's. The former bos {Imit, of J^orace, Bvok \ 
Ep, 1) :— 

*' Praise undeserved Is scandal in disguise " ; 
but it is a quotation from the author of a poem To Ih^} 
CtUbraied Btauiiu o/ifu British Court. Dryden, in thei 
dedication of Don Seboitian^ to the Earl of Lcicestef^, 

"Where Praise is undeserved 'tis Satire.*' 

Pal. — For Strcater, or Streeter, see Pepyi^ Ptnkerton*. 
Redgrave, kc. For his work at St. Michael's^ the folH 
lowing extract speaks for itself ;—" Ui72, 15th November,! 
Ordered that Mr, Streater, the Painter, who h^th l\n' 
diucourBed with to pjiint Moses and A 
Commandments, the Beltefe^ and Lord 
chancell, and hath retjuired for it ZoL, L^ 
as he hath proposed, shall hare that suiu. itir it. ' ^^ 
countM qf Par. q/ Hi. Michael, ComlulL 

C. A. W.— C. B. T. (Eton) writes:— "The arc 
of tho Tenifon Sehool was Frederick Momvble, wL 
suddenly last year. He wa«i the first ->''•• 
artthiitect under the Metropolis Local M 
Hayter Lewis's work in the square was ti. .j,i.' 

J. P. — The first article of the sort was 2voah'a Arit^ 
Jafueb.— See p. 6i of present Tolurao. 


Editorial Oommunicutt- ■ -^r^ ■' 1 he addreced to ** The^ 
Editor '■— AdvertiscroO' mess Letters to "Tlw \ 

Publisher "—at the Ofii , .ing ton Street, Stroiid^i 

London, W.C. i 

We l>eg leaye to state that we decline to return comj 
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; I 
to this rule we can make no exicepdoiL 

To all communications should he affixed the i 
address of the sender, not necessarily for pubUe»tloD, boi^ 
at a guarantee of good taith. 

. 15, 7*.] 



yUfDOy» SATURDA r, A UOUSr H, W4. 

CONTENTS. — N« 33. 

kcAi Itl— FUwrCktntflBiiriwilim* 1212 -Spelling 

tU , 1^— Ald«fia«ti Sir WilliAta SUlnes, 134 

|0f«Ar ' < lOilmitig— B&tLle of Floddes^ 

tl< t f or Mr, Froudir't Hlftofj— 

I of il _ 1 ar the Charchln]^ of Womea," 

)|tti— Dr. PriMtiey's MftUrUlinn— Bon jiii*s Gold 

but mdefi Kolfls for Hoaitb. ISO. 

i b«c*iii« of SetSMDi Botliweli Y 126'-8traQgo 
i PtioAtlf Cruelly— The BolMrtaoQ F»mUy^ 
•ad »*The Autiwotic Rccowls," 127— "Mr. 
ilt"»Babcicftl Qtwry— Privf CoiujcQ Judff- 
i\ WeslertoD — To OopjiiU — Uvy— Bev. 
ntfcb— A i^ucsUoQ for AnttquAties, 1^— 
Leon." a Poeni — Lrii (an IsLand) — Tho 
«wberT7 LeairM— Hie Piivate Goronenihi|)i 
•d— l^e Second Crusade, 129. 

f— T " udi. EarU of Wlntoo» 129-Macaulay 

II 130— George Colman, 131— Adam'i 

Iffr— Lrefor hit envy**— **Antlent," 132— 

[Bttrr and bj^ll— " Wiadom'i betier Uiau money" 
p|*-_«' A Euwan-Tne," 134—*' I*mbard'B Andeot 
OoOJMftQTO-^Old Epgraviag*— T. AUingtoo— Mary 
le *- flenldJc — Dr. JBarion^ Pans— The Jodvee 
nit* 135 — Mendelwobn — " The Widow of the 
— WaUr-roarlc — "Shotover" — Dr. I>e&'s Mas^c 
Tlie Scottish Family of £d«at — Epkscopd Tiblefl, 
[ Trevor " — Mn. Cowden Clarke'fi " Shak- 
flce,** LIT — Wiggp — Drtuy Hoiuo— * ' Put 
^nfr-^Prononclatioa of " Aches/' 130. 



ing IS abridged from an article called 
mtenuy of Cricket/' by Mr. Arthur A, 
and printed in Tlit Hour : — * 
"otaxie^ of cricket are aware thai this year is 
iftaj of that Doble game. Cricket ieems to be 
■ to j^igload and the Engligh race. Wlierevcr 
lb noe taJcoe root^ there to a certainty cricket 
D iiHliiutioi), The gftine has taken d^i root 
iSf, bal golf cannot be forced to give way» and 
I its own. Ireland ha« not shown any great 
>xi for tbo nme; indeed, I do not know that 
iQj national flport except huntiQg. Cricket is 
ko be identical with au offshoot of a game cmUled 
lriii«h wia ptavod in the fourteenth ceatary ; 
|ite||P 17 i 4 that cricket wa« an ackaowtedged 
^^^Bgialated for. In the autumn of tLat 
^^^Bliobl«iQen and g«>ntlemen formed them- 
^nmi&itt:' I^tUte of Dorset 

a, ano of laws for the 

the garni, ^led before in a 

ttltory fortu. le fiwt club wa« 

nblcdon. iniluij it was, in reality^ 

L Coiein4n. ivritmg m&ny Tears 
I Lile in pheainntSy cherries, hof>B, 
ricketers/ The game ii suppoted 
Iraui the 8axon word ' cricc/ a stick. 
Ian ©id EqgUtfa word. ' kri^et/ which 
IH^n*: pr-^' -^ *i . ider times 
% a- ' aycra ore, 

All i e caleodar 

have their anniTanaiy and centenary. Why ibould not 
Saint Cricket's centenfirybo held I I do not think the 
players of the North and 8outh have ever met with their 
Btrongeit teams. Mi^ht not a great match be g«>t up 
between North and fc^outh, each side tj pick out their 
tttretity litiL^t menj, the names being then sout to the 
M.C.C., the committee of which wotJd chow -t 

the two elevens? The cricketing feaaorn i^ 
certainly; still there i« tim^ to get the tcau.. ^ „..<.. vi- 
and wind up the season of 1874 with the greatest mitoh 
on record." 

There in no doubt, I apprehend, that cricket, as 
a regular ffxme^ " under a code of kwa/' is older 
than Mr. Gilmore imagines, 

Sevenil instances of the early Ujje of the word 
have been given in former numbers of " N. & Q.*' 
It had found ifcs way into dictionaries long before 
1774. The earliest instance I have met with is in 
Kersey^s Engluh THctionaiyj third edition, 1721, 
where it is explained to be — 

** An idsect like a grasi-hopper ; also a lo^ stool aach 
at children uaually sit on ; also a sort of play with a ball.' ' 

Fenninc'a Royal Engluh jyidioiiary, 1741, is 
rather clearer as t<» the »ort of game meant. There 
we are told that cricket means — 

*' An insect which frequents fire-places or ovens, and 
is remarkable for a continual chirping or cro^kiitg tiotse; 
a game which is played witli a bat and a ball/* 

The Gentlemaivs Magiuim, for September, 1743, 

?[Uote« an article on " Publick Cricket Matche*," 
rom the BHtuh Champion of the 8tb of that 
months from which it seems that, much to the db- 
gust of the writer, "noblemen, gentlemen, and 
clergymen "were then, as now, in the habit of joining 
with their social inferiors in pLiying the game ; that 
notices of the matches were given by advertisement 
in the newspapers, and that large numbers of people 
used to flock to behold them. 

This certainly indicates that the game had then 
a weil-undei'stood constitutiotL In the same maga- 
zine^ for October, 1756, a poem i& printed which 
does not leave much room for doubt that crick el 
wm then played much in the same manner as it in 
now. I do not think it boa ever been reprinted, 
and therefore endose a transcript for your colunms. 

"Tub Qijcs or C&rcntT. Ah Exuactss at MsncHAirT 
Tatloeb' School. 
Peace, and her artt, we sing— her genial poir*r 
Can give tho breast to pant, the tho*t to towY^ 
Tho* guiltlen. not ioglorions soub inspires, 
And ^asts lest eavage, not test nobte fires. 
Such is her sway, when Cricket calls her ttmln, 
The sons of labour, to the accustom'd plain. 
With all the faero'i passion and desire* 
They swell, they glow, they envy, and adnure; 
Despair and resolution rcis^ by turns : 
Su^^ense torments. ' • .: - ^,yJ^^J^ 

See ! in due rank *i y ttand. 

In act to start— the e hand, 

Still active, eager, sc^iu coi^uiuJ in one; 
Tho' (lit. all moving, and while present gone. 
In ancient combat, from tho /»r--" - *»''<?fJ. 
Not more unerring flew the ba 
Than rolU the ball, wUVv ^arj W \ 



[5*^ S. IL Ata. ISz-ri. 

^ow Icveird, wUizzing o'«r th« tpritiging blade, 

Now tO!»'d to rise more fatal from the groundj^ 

ExHct and faithful to th' appointed bounds 

Yet Vttin its gp«ed, yet vain iU certain aim ; 

The wary bataman vratcbeft o*er the game; 

fi«fore hu stroke the leathern cirele flies, 

Nowwbecli oblique, now mounting threati the ikici. 

Nor jet lets Tain the wary batsman ^t blow, 

If intercepted by the circling foe. 

Too foon the nimble arm retorts the ball. 

Or ready fingers catch it in its fall : 

Thus Tarious art with vary'd fortune strives, 

And with each changing chance the iport re rites. 

Emblem of manj-colour'd life— the state 

&r Cricket-rules di^c rim i nates the great : 

TIu onimird nd(, who ptacc and profit want, 

Watch to surprize, and labour to supplant : 

While those wim taste the sweets of present winnings. 

Labour as heartily to keep their inningM. 

On either side the whole great game is play 'd, 

LTotry'd no shift is left, unsought no aid: 

8kill vies with Kkill, and pow'r contends with pow 'r, 

And vptinX tffd prejudice computes iAs icon. 

In privstc life, like ginpk handed plafn, 

We get less notckfjt, but we meet less care&< 

Full many a lusty effort, which at court 

Would fix tbe doubtful isaue of the sport, 

Wide of its mark, or impotent to rise, 

Ruins the ra^h, and disappoints tbe wise. 

Yet all in public, and in private strive 

To keep the ball cf action still alive, 

And just to all, when each his ground has run, 

Death tipt the tcuht, and the game is done/' 

Mabel Pel\lock. 
Bottesford Manor, Brigg. 

[By consulting the General Indexes of " X. k Q/' all 
who are interested in the game of Cricket will be refetretl 
t<t passages wherein it is shown tbat long before 1774, 
when the game underwent, as it has often done, some 
modifications, it had been played at Eton in Horace 
Walpole's younger days; that Pope had alluded still 
earlier to the fact that ** Senators at Cricket urge the 
bair*; that it was mentioned in Swift's John Bull ; 
that it was named distinctly in a song by Turn DTrfy at 
an earlier period ; that ''Cricket'* was noticed by 
Edward Phillips. Milton saephewjti 1685; and tbut the 
acholanof the Free School at Ouildford pkyed '* Cricket '* 
in the reign of Queen EliKabeth. Thta is the earliest 
mention of the game by its modern name. That it existed 
long previously under another name, may also be seen by 
all mm will turn to the word " Cricket in the Indexes.] 

Mr8. Mart Arthur, — Miss Cathertxe Grear. 

As the centenarian aeoaon seems to 1>e, a^ Horace 
Wiilpole 84iid of the sumtner, **fteitiii^r in with it» 
accustomed severity," I wiU, with your pcnnisstont 
avail myself of a little leisure to clear off a number 
of caae5, more or less authenticated, which have 
lately reitched me, either directly or through the 
medium of " N. & Q.'* 

Mm. Mar}^ Arthur, the subiect of the fii-st of 
these communications^ is an old ttctiiiaintance of 
mine. She was introduced to me, some two years 
since, by a hidy correspondent, to whom, although 

♦ CoDtinued from •• N. k Q^" 5"- 8, L 221* 

I have not the advantage of her peisonikl aoquainti 

II nee, I am indebted for several most interestin 
photographs of au])posed centenarians and notice 
of their claims. The case of Mm, Arthur was oa 
which I was quite disposed to credit,— supported i 
it W!is by the recollections of tbe lady in que^-tio 
and her family (to one of whom bo Jong since 
1799 Mrs. Arthur had stated her then age},— ha 
wanted such further corroborative evidence of t" 
from the parish renters, as that which is no 
furnished by my friend Sir Jony Macle 
whose habit of sifting evidence^ in the porsuit < 
his historical and genealogical inquirieit, has 
turned to t^ood account in establishing the cent 
narianisin of Mil?, Mary Arthur. 

*^ Mrs. Manj Arthur. Two or three weelts Sjp(o] 
cut the following panigmph from the Itoyal C(m 
iixdl OazttU^VLwA 1 have since made «ome im^umei 
:i5 to the facts. It will be obficrved that Mr 
Arthur i« stated to have been bom nearly a ye 
bi'fore she was baptized. This I am un 
est^iblish ; but she was baptized on the djiy \ 
as is proved by the following extmcts fron 
pirish registers of the parish of St. Clement's, nta 
fruro, obligingly sent to me by the vicar. I giv 
tlie baptism of all the children of Thomas anfl 
Ann Shear, so that it may be seen that the baptism^ 
of Marj' comes in natural sequence i— 

' 1770, Andrew son of Thomas and Ann 8hear« 2rof*2(^* 

1772. Mar^, daughter cf Thonuu and Ann Shmr, 

Jan. 28. 

1773. Ann, daughter of Thomas and Antt Sliear, 

Mar. 1^. 
1774^ Elisabeth, daughter of Thomas and Ann Sheir« 

1777. Nancy, daughter of Thomas and Ann Shear, 

Feb. 20. 

1778. BctRcy, iUughtcr of ThomM and Ann Shear, 

'Oct. 26/ 

"With respect to these baptisms, the date of birlb 
is not stated in the registers, but comtuenciorr willi 
Oct* 5, 1783, there is a reoord of the day of 1 
as well as of baptism, with the addition, ' Du'\ 
paid £i). 0. 3./ in each case as far as March 21, 
1784. There are in all fifteen entries of this* kiiuL 
This tax was levied under the Act 2*4 Geo, lllu 
which provided that the clergy m in idiould diarjiv 
a stamp duty of 3rZ. upon every entry, under * 
IKjnaUy oi 5l. It taime into operation from I Oct, 
1783, and was not repealed until 34 Geo* HLar 
so that being in force for ten years, it is curio 
that ther^ Hhould be only these fifteen entries, 
is atill more curious that in all my ivc<iuaintA»c< 
with parish registeni, and it hfi4& been g*ytiewhal 
extensive, I do not remember to have noticed aDj 
Bimilar entries. 

"But, returning to Mre. -iiihur, I haH 
certained from another clergyman that kIim 
married in 1792, as stated, and as to the date < 
her death there can be no doubt It is, therrfon 
clearly established, I hope to the satislactioo 

S*8. II.Ana.15.7*.] 



mj fri^il Mr. Thomfi, that the old lady, on the 
d»3r of her death, was at least 102 years and 70 
dajTB old. 

* DiATu or Tinj OutKsT Irhabitakt or Cornwall.— 

The mortal rtmAini of Mrs, Mary Arthur, ibe oldest 

uilmbitent of i?omirftlI, were deposited in the cemetery 

■I Loftwithiel on MondAj hit, in the preaence of » large 

number of those amon^t whom she hai lived for the 

ervatcr portion of a century. She retided at Lq«twithie] 

^nr« h^r iTwrrin^ ther«^ on NoTember 26, 1792, to 

She ma the daughter of Thamna and 

ii« bom in February, 1771, was baptised 

luirch of 8t, Clement, near Truro, on 

Jtuttmty 2<, 1772, and died at Loatwithielf April 14, 1874^ 

in her 10 Uh year.* 

JoHx Maclkan. 

It I 

racteri^tic ot the tendency to make 
ihr I nuir^ niarvcliuus that the Royal 

'" :fow3 up the announcement of 

m on January 28, 1772, and 
I nn Apnl 14, 1874, by stilting that her 

it 1 1 !• »k |>lace in her 104th year. It U taid 
\^ v^as lioni nearly a twelvemonth hefore her 
* m ; but this I doubt, aa her brother Andrew 
been baptized only fourteen months before, 
icly, on the 26th Nov., 177(». 

** Mist Cttth^rinf Grmr, — The following slip, 
m tla* New York Timts, of Hay' 9tb, 1874, may 
lllibute U> Mr. Thoms's invest tigtitions. I pre- 
the materials for verification are ample : — 
i»H or A P'-—-' ■-" V ''^' rine Orcar 
Tu«tday. v. < Jiidelphia, 

"Jjtars. J i4 a natire 

city; HjiTing bceti Loru in thg year 17<J<*, in a 
1 8tAr Alley, near Fifth and Cherry ^treetA. She 
G«rman descent, her parenti harin^ come to thii 
itjtry in the cAriy part of the last ceDtury. Two of 
■itt4*m nrr Ttnw living, one a^ed ninety, and the other 
itv li third died two yean o^o at the ad* 

ty. Min Orear wa« quite strong and 
. Lin a fhftrt period of her deoeaie, and 
diiiinctly occurreiicei that took place durioig; 
(r part of the last centory/ 

M. B. S. 
ic, K.J., U.S.A." 

I am much indebted to M. B, ^. for hh courtesy, 
t am quite unable at this distance from Phil- 
Iphia to make that uearcbing investigation 
would be neceasary to establLali the excep- 
»g« of 106 yeois claimed for Miss Grear. 

WllXlAH J. TllOM.S. 

W* bjivt* now made the following anggestion.^ :— 
lI, T he hi wordH don veil from theLatin cede 
be all ap^lt alike, hence the 3 cicfption!*, 
fftocttd, and An<rcf4U should be written 
piooede, and auccede. 
the lift* words i*nding in c mute, which 
ntHlx -w^ai, only 3 drop the r in so doin^, 
wotda ahould be made lo conlbnu to the 

117 others, and should be apeit ahridgcmtnt, 
ackiw^tUdycmmt^ and judgement. 

o. Of the 1 80 worda enaing in e mute which take 
the suffix -abU^ some reject the e in !h> doing, and 
^ome retain it. All should conform lo one rule, 
and I au^gest that the simplest plan would be to 
retain the « throughout. 

4. We have 672 wordn aUoj»^tber which take 
the sufliK -Me^ and 208 which take the «ulhx -ihU, 
As this distinction does not point out any con- 
juffational ditfcreDce (for between 60 and l*X\ of 
those in -abU are not of the first conjugation), I 
snggeat that the miffix -ibU he abolished, a« a 
delusion and a snare, and that all the 88*» words 
be spelt alike with the termination -able. 

5. The next suggestion is this : No dissyllable 
accented on the first of ita ayllablea shnll double 
iu final consonant on receiving a suffix, but all of 
them without exception ahall retain their simple 
form throughout. 

There are 9 of such dissyllables ending in -p, 
H of which double the p on taking cert«in sutfixes, 
vu,j (fomp, kidnap, and worship. 1 suggest that 
the extrai p be abolished, and that the suffixes be 
added to the simple word without any alteration 
in its spelling. 

The same with dissyllables eodiog in -*7, -d^ 
&c. In a word, no dissyllable accented on the 
first syllable shall in any case change ita original 
form on receiving a suffix. 

These easy rales wLU simplify the spelling of 
some ii,(KJO words, without causing any striking 
change in the apf>ea ranee of a page, and certainly 
without obscuring the etymolog>" or violating any 
rule of spelling. The help they will aflbtd to 
simplicity and uniformity will be very graat, and 
the drawback balanced against the^^e advantages 
will be almost ni7, and very temporary. 

I will now, with penniasion, continue the sub- 
ject, and take for my text this axiom : The plural 
suffix -€$ 18 never to be used except when it makes 
a distinct and separate syllable, as in church, 
chnrcU'tA; ga*, (fm-fs^ &c. Of course the immediate 
reference is to the plurals of nouns ending in 
-/, -ffy and -o. The present plan Lb most complex, 
confused, and absurd. 

The roles for nouns ending in -/are these :~~ 

L Ail nouns in -r/ (except thitf and ttandker- 
ehief) form their plural by adding ^, as belief, 
beliefs; brief, briaf*; chief, chic/s; clef, cle/i; 
fief,}t^/f ; grief, griefs ; reef, re«/>. 

2. Similarly, nouns in -tYand -*/f add #, as — 
Bailiff, bailiffs; caititf, caitifi ;* calif, ealif* (?) ; 

cliff, rUffii; coif, rc/i/ji ; mi^tllf. mastiffs; pliiiutiff, 
plftiiUiffs: sheriiT/»fur V. $kiff$; tariff, 

hiriffa ; waif, icaifi ; win 

3. The same with nou nd -off, as — 
Hoof, hoofs; proof, . proof, reproof i; 

root, roofs; woof, woo/*; m:i>i\ 

4. The Mune wvl\i mM^m vw ^ .u\J,|**— 




Cu^t cT<jf* ; huff, huff» ; muff, mvffs ; puff, pvff»; 
ruff, raffs ; snuff, snuffs ; stuff, stuffs ; gulf, gulfs. 

5, Asd lasiljj nouns ending in -r/ foUow the 
same niJe, as — 

Dwarf, dwarfs; scarf, scarfs; wharf, wharfs; 
8urf, surfs ; and turf, turfi. 

Altogether 39 words, only two of which are 
irregular. Why ia the plural of ** thief" to be 
thitres^ and of "handkertbief " to W hamlker- 
chitves? Of course " thief ^' m our native word 
thatf which makes fhivfas (thitfs) in the pluiaJ^ 
and could not by any possibility change /into tw, 
seeing there is no sucJa letter afi t? in the language. 
The letter v is wholly Latin, but there is no pxo- 
babitity that it bad any resembhmce in Bcrana to 
our modem letter so-aiJled. 

A^in, "handkerchief" is a mule and an ass 
Yoked together, for hand is a native word, and 

rchief ia French. Why should this hybrid word 

» still further deformed by an imposiible plural ? 
Of course the French couvr'-chtf mnkea convr^-cJiefs 
in the plural, and ^' handkercbieves " is a monster 
which ought not to be tolerated an hour. 

Without doubt, therefore, the words "thief" 
and '^handkerchief^' should be reduced to rule, 
and we should write their plimds ihitfs and 
handhirchiefs, conformably with the 37 other 

Kow for the reverse of the medal. Nouns in 
-o/ or -CTjf, -alf and -c?/, change the / into vts. 
Strange enough, all these nouns are native wonlst 
not one of which makes such a ptund, or indeed 
could do so. There are 11 in all ; they are :— - 

Calf, mlves; half, hahu; elf, ehu; adf, sdves; 
shelf, fihdves. 

Leaf, haves; aheaf, shmves; loaf, lomtts ; staff, 
staves ; but not " dist^V* which makea distaffs. 

Now, the original of staff is ataf plural stafas 
(stafs). The original of loaf is hUif plural hldfas 
(hlafs), and so with the rest. To tbe»e may be 
added hitf plural bi^res, which, of course, mis- 
represents the French baiufs. 

Where is the inconsistency of demanding the 
restoration of these 1 1 words to their normm and 
original condition I By s5uch a restortition we should 
gtnn thus much for unifomiity of spelling : every 
word ending in -/ would form its plural in the 
regular way, by adding s, and not 38 in one way, 
11 in another, and 3 deviating from either method. 

In regard to -fc the caae is worse, and even more 
absurd. We have 6 nouns with this ending, 3 
native and 3 borrowcnl from other languages. The 
native words are knife, life, and wife. The natii- 
ndize^l strangers are^/e, strife, and safe (a closet). 

The 3 native words have for their plunds kjiires, 
Hvfs, jind mres. The three oliens fifes, strife, iind 
safi:s. The originals of the first three are cnif Uf 
and mf^ the final c being the ridiculous substitute 
of the accent. It need not be added that the 
phiral BD&ix -res finds no countenance in the ori- 

ginal words. Wif and lif being neater, ane sdik» 
in both numbers ; and crnf m&tB mi/as (fc»i/r " 
or hiifes without the accent. 

The 3 strangers need no remark. Wliiit stdki 
me most forcibly is the gratuitou* disiortion of 
JiFBt 3 words ; and the question lu) ' > rKUH 

or impediment exists why they t be 

roduc^ to the general rule, so thai . >li_> vs^ni in 
-/ or -fe should iform its plural by adding s f 


{To ht contin%id*) 

In Mr. Thorn bury's Old and New Lrmdon.^ j\ 
stated of Sir William Staines (Lord Mayor 

" He began life lui a hricllayerU lah<mrer, and by pif^ 
BeTenng stcailily in the ptrremt of one object, occamulBliii 
a large fortune, and rose to the state coach and tha 
MftHfion Houie/' — Vol. i. p* 412. 

I lately fell in vnth a very interesting 
entitled Economy ; or, a Ptcp at Otir Nci^hl 
purporting to be a narrative of six month*' 
dence of an English family in 0" - - i: 
eunimer of 1B44, whore a different ; 
of the early occupation of thu^ "^ 
dignit^ary, which, with permission, I extrnct, ni 
follows :^ 

"It is w«ll known that Aldenoftn Stekiea fcm ^ 
fortune from his having been employed as a sUm*<^tUr 
at St. SflmpBon'i, He had left Englmid in hb etfly 
youth, came to Qaenuey, and to earn a lirtng hired 
himself as a jiovriuyiTtan s(on4-c%Uter to a farmer at the 
Vale, Returning to London some years aftenfardi^ h* 
accidentally came to a street they were t^kving with the 
Guernsey stone, and, lookiog at it as be would at hi 
Aisooiate he knew well and loved from early recciUectienM» 
he saw the cluniey manner in which they were laying it 
down» at the game time pointing out to the workmtn 
how they ocmlJ do it better; and whiht bo dof 
attraGicd the attention of the contractor, who, et 
his knowledge of the buBinciia, wat glad to emploi 
hia lerifice. From this he became a contractor " 
made money, was elected Alderman, and Hnnllv 
lite a gccond Whittington, Lord Mayor of London^ 
fact wae unknoAtn in the Island until Sir Jthn Doyte, 
when gorernor, dining one dity nt the Mansiuo Houi^ 
hnppened to be seated next to Alderman Staines, 
opportunity of hearing about Guenuey was not it 
re^isted^ and he said,^— 

*' ' You seem, General, to know the people of th* iil 
toll me of my old maater^— is he yet alive, — the woi 
farmer of the Vale l * 

'* The GoTemor knew him well. 

"'Then tell bim,' said the Alderraan. *that 
journeyman, William Staines^ learnt ir*!^ '^-"* 
economy under his rofif, and is now dotng^ i* ^ 
will be happy to see him in the City of Lcjh; 
return him the kindnew, with interest, he nBCcixcd al hks 
hands/ '—Pp. 13*^-1^9. 

Apropos of Economy; or, a Peep at iktr Ntiifh' 
hours (London, John OUivier, 1845), can any 
reader of " N. & Q/' inform me who i* the ftOthorJ 
— apparently a lady of good pomtioQ in socaelfj 



- ' leii for Fome inonth.s on 

- the title), inGiieniRey- 
biPMM-.> Ml a -tries of graphic letters, 
IS I pither from int«nial evidence) to 
fy man, ABsiimin^ the author to be a 
Ha a highly- gifted and accomplished 
'lief ocowiouiil reflections on life and 
lti<l even her views on political ques- 
lie n thoughtful^ inteOi^ent and smsiblc 
Iteibly the nutho? is now well known ; 
ftely I had never seen, nor even heard of, 
bd, having come upon it by chancei I 
) into it, and became so interested as 
(rough at one sitting. W. A. 0. 

m Grbat^s Visit to Godalming ix 

tay not be* genemlly known that the 

ited in the Memoir of PtUr tlic frreatf 

brrobomted by a no le^s eminent cmt- 

thority than Peter le Neve. 
liiited herald'9 account difTcrs aomcwhat 
[ven in the Memoir (from a letter in the 
9)Tary), as will be seen on comparisoR; 
ler jwaiatiJ us in filling up one or two 
Le Neve*a MS., a ctipy of which, by 
\j in preserved among the Additional 
t Mus., No. 548C, under the heading 
I MiBcellanies and other Events begin- 
6nd» 1694, collected antl carried on by 
re, E«qr., Norroy King of Arras " : — ' 
.— Ahout one month before " {the mcmor- 
ijrecedcs it fs tlatcd in July of same year) 
Mtifcovy, beiri^' in England^ went to Porte- 
H kiA way. Jay at Godalroin in Surry. There 
it at table at iupper, and the scrTarUn 
^"-^-one. They hml tVn- ^nn^-^r [five riba 
fee stone, cme liing fifty- 

ri of lamb, It istedond 

wltbbacon^ eight i)uiiot>, tour couple 
dosen of sack, one dozen of claret, and 

ail * (the following morning evidently) 
ntnet^en pounds of laiub^ ten ptilleta» one 
\nM, and three quarti of brandy/' 

NMk mulled at nfgifat, and in the 
I of egga, and [saladl tti proportion, 
to jTil.*' 

James GKKKirsTiiKST, 

BUDKN.— The tv 
kt«Mr. JU 

en "' ^' 

here sup- 

3 ** List 

in who were 

I :»i:3,'' printed 



Jiatt,^ KdinbuTgh, 1660 (printed 
■ Aion)» p. 3, 
bth) of Cleland. Life of ,^r 
, B^Tt., Bdinburght 1872, p. li. j 

For John third Lord Maxwell read fourth^ 
'' N. & Q/' 4^ S, xi. 233, 

For John urond Lorrl Ro«« and William hi& 
only aon, read firxt, and Nintan his eld$H son* 
Rid de IPs Bo&s Fcdigrtc. 

To the list of ** escaped " add Gib of that Ilk. 
Life and Times of Hohtrl Cih, Lord of Carribher^ 
London, 1 874, p. /i. J. MAmTEi*. 

N e wcasfcle 'Upon-Tyne, 

Epitaph at Salzburg. — In the doistered grave- 
yard belonging to the Monast^ery of Rt. ^m - *-n 
a t Salzburg (which con titi n s t h e t omb of I ' 
I copied, on the 25tli Aprd, 1871, the i ..-.^.ig 
curious inscription } from a slab in the pave* 
nient; — 

•' Ah mi Viator 
Sine kcrymia ne veni ne £ita 

Nam «>culu§ ()ui Patri 

Matrique intempestiye cxoidit 

Hic Jacct 

Joannes Baptigta 


Snpra aetate maturtu gravis Puer 

Aot O ramm I duodennts Vir 

Qni cum in icholit Co- 

Honam Nemiui cede- 

rct MoTi invida ecripnit efl Jonfi o tmperio 

Kt eola flolio movit 

Nunc coeli in academla Deum audit 


In memoriam niaTisaimi Filii mocsti parentes 

3ton ; hoc pp. obiit 10"" April. A. 164&/* 


A Fact for Mr. Frohuk's Hibtory.^ — About 
the year 1^2 the late Rev. Thomas Newland, 
curate of St. Peter's, Dublin, told me that he was 
then visiting, on her deatb-lfed, an old woman, who, 
when a little girl, had been one of the Protestants 
shut up in the bam of Skullabogue. When asked 
how ffhe imd escaped being burned with the rest> 
she said the Bomish priest had got her out, 
bec4iU5e her life was in a lease which he held, 

S. T, P. 


CHtrRCHtKu or WoMEK."— Sir Thomas Widdring- 
ton, M.P. for York, iu a speech in the Houso of 
Commons, tells an extraordinaty anecdote of a 
clergyman who was his friend and neighbour. A 
butcher in the parish was severely gored in tha 
stomach by an ox, and only narrowly escaped 
death. Eventually, the wound b< ' h the 

butcher desired to give public thanl ii the 

church for \m safe deliverance. i uf pu/>zled 
clenryumnt finding himself in a A%, anxious and 
vv^illin" *-■-' —tify hia pariRhioner, and yet not 
know I ,' authorized form for such a public 

act, iioL.. ... . -1 ^1"' Pr«v.-r. f, ,r 1 he Churching of 

Women, (ra /ol. ix* p, 455*) 

In mv own ► . tv to an unin- 



[5^*S. ILAvit. 15^74 

^ «li<scuil pcw^ capacious t\nd high, nt the entmnce 
I of the churcli, where only womea woi^hippe<l w ho 
'desired this office of benediction. One SumkiTr 
Afternoon three Oxford umleripraduates, amving 
during the evening service, Laslily took their 
pUees in this particular pew ; when^ iiccording to 
^aistom, towards the close of the service, the p^irson 
(wJiO was shortsighted), looking up and seeiug the 
pew occupied, imiDediateW proceeded **to church" 
these visitors, an Jict which be completed to the 
CODfit^mation of the congregation. 

Frederick George Lee. 
All Balntft' Vicarage^ Lambeth. 

MisrHTSTs, — " K. & Q/' Im^s froio lime to time, 
directed attention to absuiTi misprints. Pray, 
therefore> find n:>oui for the fcjllowing. In the last 
editinn of the MonaJiticon Anglicannnij vol. vi* 
prtTt iii, p. 152ij is printed a contract, in Englif<h, 
ior making certain windows in the church of the 
Grey Friars, in London. The printer has not 
understood the contnmion for *'con,'' and has not 
once only, but several times, represented it by the 
Ji^ire U. Con seq lien t]y» instead of " reconsylej"' 
'* contaynyth/' and *^ conquest, we have " re9syle/* 
^*S)tayDyth," "Squcst." K. P. D. E. 

Da, pRntsTLEY's Materialism, — The unveiling 
of Dr. Priestley's statue at Eiruiingham, on Satur- 
day, August 3, may perhaps give snflicient interest 
to the following epitaph to insure it an insertion 

" Here lie nt rest 

In onkeQ chest. 
Together packed most nicely, 

The bones &nd brftini, 

Flwht bloody und teins, 
And toril of Dr Priestley." 

It ifi »aid the Doctor, when he read it, enjoyed a 
hearty laugb over it. The author, the Kev. David 
D&vis, of Castle HowlII, yvoA the KUcx:essor of David 
ZJovd, Llwynrhydowen, lately referred to in 
'*N* k Q,,'* and was for tifty years the most 
celebrated schoolmaster in the Principality, There 
18 a short account of him, WTitten by the Rev, 
Arthur Mursell, in G<fod WoTd^^ imz, p. 41^. 

T. C, Uk>'oxe. 

BinrrAN's Gold Km&. — Who now has the gold 
ring found, 1 think, in the moat near Bedford Jail, 
and Bupposed from the initial'^ to be Bunyan's ? It 
belonged to the late Dean of Manchester, Dr, 
Bowers, who very highly prized it. Tlie device 
wafi ft death's head, surrounded by the motto, 
** Memento mori," and with the letters J, B. just 
tinder the skull. Such rings were often left as 
JegiuVie-s at that time, which may account for Ban- 
yan liaving ao expensive an article. I forget the 
llean's reasons for believing it to he bis, P, P. 

Cardastus Rider's Rules for Health.— 
Jiider's Brithih Merlin, for the year 1769, i% ac- 

cording to the title-page» *' adorned with 
delightful and useful Verities Htl 
in the Inland. H of Great Britain^ 
was *' compiled for bis Country* ii^^ij 
Cardanua Rider/' Tliinking it a pity ^ 
" Verities " should be unknown to the \>o<\^ 
this sophisticated age, I send you the rule* I 
health as they appear in the " Obsenrattoiw ^* ;' 
each month : — 

** JanvaiTf.—htt not Blood, and ufc no PhyskV. uxM 
there be r Necessity : K&t often, and Avuid too luV 

** Feh^an/.—Ue paring in Phjsick, and lot not Bk 
without absolute Ncceeeity, and be careful of cMth' 

** JtfrtrcA.— Purge aad let Blood : Eat no grom UuL, 

'^.4;>ri/.— It is ttow a good Time to bleed an^S telM 
Phyaick : abstain from much Wine ; they will oum^ 
Ferment m your Blood, and ruin your Constitution. 

** May. —The Blood and Uumours beir- ' '" 
Motion^ \Tc must be careful to avoid eatinL 
or stale Meats ; fat People must aToid Excv 
of any kind. 

" June. — €<x>1ing Sallads, as Letuce, 8orreU Pan 
kCf will prevent too great a Perspiration, and throw ( 
feTcrish Disorders. 

*^July. — Forbear supertuous Drinking. tr§e ei4d 
Herbs. Sbun boil'd, sail, and strong Meats, 
abstain from Pbysick, 

•'^Mj^if. -This mouth use moderate Diet. forUj-^ 
sleep soon after Meat : for that brin^:- 
Heftdacbfi, Agup?, and Catarrhs, and other 
of the same Kind. Take gjeat care of »4ii<^j«un kq 
after Heat, 

September contains no rule, bo it ia to be nn 
posed you may live as you like, 

" Ocl&hfr^—AtQid bettig out late at Night*, of In foj „ 
Weather; for a Cold now, may contmue the whole 

" Novmher,^7hc best Phyeick this 51 
Exerciae« warm Clotboa, and wholesome I 
any Diatempor atUict you, finish your I i 
Month, and so rest till March, 

*' l)fcembtr.—0\d Par's Maxims of Healtk. K« 
your F«et warm by Exercise, your Head cool 
Temperance, i>ovcr cat till ^ou are ahungiy^ord 
but when Nature requircB it/* 

a w, &4 

[We must request correspondent* desiring info; 
on family mattem of only private interest, to affiji I 
names and addressee to their queries^ in order thai tlw 
answers may be addressed to them direct,] 

What becamk of SKaaiiANT Botbwkll f 
The Francis Stewart, grandsion of Queen Ma' 
E;irl of Bothwell, i«, »b we all know, p^'ctuj 
by Sir Walter Scott in Old Mortality as n pri 
in the Bcottish Life Guarda. He if promoted 
the grade of a sergeant, and, at the interc^ ^^ 
Lady Margaret Bellenden, is promised by 
house ft cornetcy ; but, ere he obtains his 
mission, ^he is slain in flinglo combat by Jol 
Bulfour, of Burley, All this ia m 
drzLmatic, but it is notoriously quite ^'un 

Tlie real Fnmcis Stewart, ^nindsou of the Earl of 
^iSotbwell, was a private in ihu Scottish Horse- 
iiaidg, but he was promoted from the ranks to a 

Etaincj of dragooDs. He certiunly wiw never 
cd in the fight at Drtuiiclog, since ho was in 
Duunand of the dnigoons at the battle of Bothwell- 
J and he seems to have siinived for some 
Fnfter wards, Claverhouse was never his com- 
n^lng officer, nor was that brave bad man in 
[>minand of the Scottish Life Guards at all He 
he captain of an independent troop of horse, 
bth well- Brig jT the Life Guards were headed by 
"arquis of Montrose {ncc Atholl disgraced), 
nd Claverhoase only commanded his own troop of 
Tegular cavaln'. The.^e facts are all plainly 
cited in the Memoirs of Captain John Crtichion ; 
nd it is at a period after the accession of James It. 
' the throne, and during Monmouth's rebellion, 
lit the Captain incidenljUly refers to the death of 
ftptain Stewart as a recent event. When and 
ow did he die I It is curious to remark that 
Jir Walter, who edited Swifl, who bafl edited 
eichton's Memoirs, should have so deliberately 
verted historj^ in the matter of Bothw ell's 
ndion, who appears to have been a person of 
ehiitscter and consideration, seeinf^ that bis 
i iraa sent np from Edinbur^di to the Govern - 
Ekt hi Loadon as that of a military Jiian likely to 
do the SUite good service in Scotland a;;ainst the 
*" citerK His nomination (probably on account 

I myal bclonofings) received instiiut approval 
"he ttuthoritieri at Whitehall ; and he, a mere 
Life Guardsman, was at once sent for to 
mrj^b, and entrusted with the command of a 
of horse, in which Creiebton wm apj)ointcd 
pn(int, Still more curious is it to note that the 
eristic Sergeant BotbiveLI of Scott^H wonder- 
lion is not Francis Stewart at all, but 
ally Creiebton bimself ; and but for 8ir 
efn evidently inteni^e study of the gniphic 
i^tive taken down from the old persecutor's 
* i|>8 by Swift, we shoiihl never, probably, have 
he story of Old Mortality. All the fictitious 
JPs impudence, profligjicy, lawlessness, and 
9evil bravery are to be found in John Creich- 
I own character as drawn by himself. History, 
vcver, is history ; and it would be scarcely justifi- 
es even in the greatest of hiatorical novelists, to 
i thnt Oliver Cromwell wa^ killed in sin^de 
by Charles L at the battle of Worcester ; 
pierre waiS shot in a duel by Mirabeau ; 
oleon L escaped from St. Helena, and 
lident of the United States of America, 
uncis Stewart (or Stuart), grandsrm to 

"" hwtdl, and who— odd coincidence— 

n^ed the left wing of cavjdry at B(>tbweU- 
^must have had a veraciou*^ history of bis own. 
f my one tcJl me how he came by hi« end ? 

a A, HAUi. 

P,S. There can lie no cause to doubt the autheu- 
ticity of Creichfcoufi own narrative ; and the his- 
torical accnmcy of his allusions to Clave rhoase,. 
Dalziel, Leslie, Sir Evan Cameron, and other 
personages of the time, huA never been called in 

[Scott, in Old MGrUttttH, fliar* that the " Bothwcll " ©f 
the novel wft* '*ile«sended from tUe laat carl of that 
nanitf, not the 'u' ' vcr of the unfortunate Quuen 

Mary, but Kras , Earl of Bothwell, whose tur- 

bulence and rtj ;i racial embarrassed the early 

part of Jamea V L & r^igu, and wbo at length died in exile 
in great poverty," TIub earl's son, Scott Btates. '* died id 
the utmost indigence/' The " BothwdP* &f Old Mot- 
taliti/, the laAt earl's aon, ia thus " unhistorizcd " in tlie 
first note to the 4tlj chap, of that romance :—" Tlie 
chnracter of Bothwell, except in relation to the name, 
18 entirely ideal."] 

Strange Btdry ok Alleged Priestlv 
Cruelty. — 

''Reprieveg may al&« be ?^ nertsiitatf Uffu; an wJierr 
ft vroman is capitally convicted, and pleads her pregnancy; 
tlioui;h this is no cause to stay the judgment ; yel it is t<^ 
respite the execution till she be dcUvcrtd* This iis n 
mercy dictated by the law of nature, m /aoorem protis ; 
and, therefore, no nnrt of the bloody proceedings in the 
reign of Queen Mary hath been more Justlv dete«ted 
tlian the cruelty thtit waa exercised in the iiland oi 
Gueraiey, of burning a woman big with child:. and 
when, throuifli the vioience of the tlames, the infant 
sprang forth at the itake, and ^vas preserved by the by- 
Btanders, after some deliberation of the prie«t« viho 
nssisted &t the sacrifice, tliey cast it tgain into the hfv 
m a young heretic." 

Thl^ piifisage occurs in Blackstone's chapter oo. 
" Reprieve and Pardon.'' He cites in a note the 
mart}Tologi»t Foxe ! Is ther*^ any better authority 
for the incredible story ? Middle Te^iplaR- 


The Robertson Family. — The crest of thir 
Robertson fuinil}', which waa once the Clao 
iJivnnachie (or Donnachee), is a hand holding » 
crown. The coat of arms resta on the iignre of a 
man in chains (not a (juartering). 

A lady belonging to this family, and the only* 
Fur\T.vor of her bnmch of it, would be gi'eailr 
obliged if any one eonld expkin to her the origin 
of tlieiie artnoriai bearings. She ijs aware thai 
there h some legend of historic interest connected 
with ihem, ami believes that the incident which 
pive rise to them took pltvce in the reign of 
James I. (she thinks of Scotland). She would 
ghidly send an impression of the crest or coat of 
arms to any one who is disponed to investigate the 
matter. F. Chakci:. 

Bydenhoni HUl. 

Mrs. Wood and '' The At?TnE3fTTC Recohpu/' 
^A friend of mine^ a wcll-ltnown man of lettcntt 
ha** in his possession a copy of that scaJidalotifl^ 
ehroniclej Tlie Authfiitic Record* of tht Cq^H' ' '* 
England for the lanl l^tvcniy Vears^ contai 
among other manuscript notea^ ooft ^Ti \3la.<fe \\\S*:- 




pnge which states it was " Written by si lady of the 
tiame of Wood, who vms residing in the poJiico. 
Suppressed, bought up and destroyed. Very few 
copies in existence/^ I have seen Mrs, Wood's name 
OS authoress (pioted in a bookseller's catalogue^ and 
have heard her spoken of in the saine character. 
Wufi there ever such n [kerson I If t^tj where can 
I learn any particulars of her ? It hfis been stated 
that neither the AuUieniic Bccords nor the enhirgetl 
version of it, Tha Sca-et History^ 5:c., was publicly 
aold, but hawked about ut night by a mysterious 
female, who chtirged very lii^ prices for them. 
Certain it is that the '^remainder" of the Mccrd 
Hutortf was offered one evening, by some such 
agent, to a well-known bookseller, who declined 
to purchase. Could this be the Mrs. Wood re- 
ferred to in the MS. note 'i M. W. 

" Mr. Fuller's Complaint,^*— I wish to ascer* 
taiu the collection whence a poem, entitled aa 
above, is taken. The following is the first of 
soren stanzas : — 

" Englimd, once Europe's Joji 
iMow her scorn ; 
AmbitiouB to be forlorne, 
fid f, by self torn; 
SUnd amaz*d^ 
Thy wo«B are bliu'd, 
By MlcQce best. 
And waatiug words, even wander out tbe rest" 
J. E. Bailey. 

EoBRiCAL QuERT. — In Sir Archibald J. 
Stephen ^H edition of the Book of Common Prayer, 
published by the Ecclesiastical History Society in 
the year 1849, tbe first rubric touching the orna- 
ments that were in use in the second yeai' of the 
reigo of King Edward VI. is scurod across in blue 
ink, and in a foot-note we are informed that '* The 
40th pace of the Sealed Books commences with the 
words * Thk Order,* but is cancelled. This 
* Order ^ does not appeur in the MS, Booky Diihlin^ 
C. R. E." On refening to his edition of the Book 
of Common Prayer for Ireland, I find it as he says. 

My query is, w:i3 tbb rubric intendeil to be 
omitted at the last review, but left remaining by 
An overaight ? Edmund Tew, ]VLA. 

Privy Council Judgment: Liddell v, Wes- 
TERToN. — In Bayiurd's (ed. 1857, p. 128) report of 
the judgment of the Judicial Comuiittee of the 
PrLv>^ Council (Liddell v, Westerton), delivered 
March 21, 1857, 1 read :— 

" Bat by the time* when the second Prayer Book was 

introduced & ^reat chiuigG hod takcD place in the oniaioii 

of tbe Erigliih Cburch, kod the consequence was taat on 

ih« revision of the BeTTice ihete aever&I mmttera were 

I completely altered; the use of the surplice was sybi^ti- 

l^ied for the several vcatments preTionslj enjoined, ihi 

xtjferfor citfutcratian rjf the eUfH^mlx van omiiUd, ihougk 

the prtsent Prater Book it U nHor^, the br«ad and 

In Tait (Bishop of London), Brodrick and 

Freemantle'a (ed. 1865, p. 147) report of the vm^y 
judgment, I read :— 

*^ ... the use of tbe BurpUce wat «ab«titut6d for tht 
several vestments previously enjoined, mtUtrial lU^fnUmi 
irer* introdwitd HI iki frrujftr of amteeraiicm, the hrwi 
and wine/' &c. 

How could '* material alterations '* be i* 
in a prayer that was omitted ? How cou I > , 
if not omitted, be " restored '- ? Which i^ Liia 
true report of the jud^mient delivered 1 


To Copyists. — Will Hkrkbnthi ni' or kdv 
other expert genealogist, kiudly rec 
experienced person, who wo\ild uui it 
for mo at the Public Record Office and Bntiaii 
Museum I X, 

[Letters » prtpaid, will be forwarded to oar cwfe- 

XavT, — In an edition of Livy, bearing on lU 
title-pace " Francoforte ad Mijenain " :is ^ place 
of publication, and dated 1678, the foUowiog 
passage occurs : — 

"PIcbs tribunes plebis abaentca Sex. Tempantaflif 
A Selium, Sex. Antietiatnj et Spuriliaiu fecit, q«ot tl 
quo oenturiombus sibi paefecemnt Tempanio aatbofe 

In the Oxford classics "Sp, Icilium** occurs 
for " Spunlium," Li\ii iv* 42. Which of these 
readings is correct, and how is the diacrepanQr to 
be explained ? Is there any tnontlon of a HSpuriU^ 
elsewnere in Latin authors I OiffioA. 

Eev.Timotht K ewmarcb.— Wanted particukn 
of this clergyman, a Yorkshire Nonjuror, in 
middle of the eighteenth ceDtur}% who is* > 
have possessed much of the MS. tt- 
the "Kev. Edward Stephens;' a r* 
juror of a previous generation, {^oua- ot wiiox 
lettei-B are preserved in the GiV»son MSS. in Jjm- 
beth Library. Invks-huatob. 

A Question for Antiquauies,— Tlu^ ^ n.^dm, 
is extracted from the Unitarian Herat < 
at Mauchester. By giving it the pi,.*. ... 
*'N. & 1,J;," we umy, perhaps, obtain ivn answdr 
forF, S, A.:— 

*' In the inicresting volume Utelj publithed by Ma 
Le Breton, entitled Memoir vr^f> i. n.rrLiuhf, :fir!inii*s 
Ldlers and Notices of her / 
is gi?en addressed by the P^ 
Dr. Aikin, when about t.. 
Warrington. He )?ivc8 him u 
ia post'Chaiies as far ai l^t I : 
at that place he will /*<' 
1768. Can any of your ji 
eture or Cheshire inform u. ..-^.- „...-i, ., 
firat poBt-ch4i8c ran in Stockport ! A latiy nut tc r 
deceased informed ine that, in her youtli, a pcr^i 
did not wiali exactly to confess having oomc on iwi 
would say * I came by Stopport chaise.' Tlioru mvxm 
to bare been a general inclination to substitut« mmt 
indirect pluTi»e for tbe simple * I walked.' A Scotchinaa 



wotjld Sftj^ * I rodo oa thank' f naggu> A German, ^ I 
f p€r pfdfs ApotloloTum,* F. 8. A." 

SAI^KARA,^ MaRUATTA BiLAJIiiANj A*D, 1717.^ — 
"^ " 'i koown regiirdin^i^r the life mid writingd of 

\ who negocinted the trciity between the 

__Jttt)cn>r Firokh Sir and Biilit-ji Biaha Nath, the 
fii*t Peshwji, in 1717, by which the rights of 
Cbouth and Sir D(^ Mukhi were ceded to the 

*JI>oir Lieosr, & Poem by the late Lonl Byron» ic. To 
vliaeh U added Leon to Annabella, an epiatJe from Lord 
"* I to Lady Bjrron. London : Printed for the Book- 
jtDoccLJtvi." 8to. 1 vol. 

Th€«e two poems are, of course, not by Lord 
Srroti* Can you inform me who was the author ? 
Tae ptthlbhers name, and the circnmstimces of 
publication, would tiho he acceptable. 

H, S. A. 

Thk Islahd Iris. — Biodonis Siculus (v., 32) 
i^^eftka of those Britons, who inhiibtt tt)v oi'ofxa- 
{c^uAiofv 'Ipiv^ aa being cannibals. Where is tliLi 

The Sqllt Islss. — What is the earliest ex- 
ttoipld of Vm namef and why were they so called i 


Stkawbeaby Leaves.— ^liy were these leares 
L*ii to decorate ducal and uther coronets 7 

St. Swithin* 


Where can T meet with an account of the^e, I 
mean such as were attached to certain manors ] 
I know an instance in which such an otficc waa 
^^ fordshire Ump, Henry VI IL, and 

of the propeJty of a fdo dt u 

f^*^' .iuyi afterwards remitted by the lord 

of [, Have such privileges ever been 

alwu^"^^^, -; are they anywhere in force now ? 

T. W. Wbbbl 

Thx Second CarsADE. — I remember readinfr 

Ittmjr years ago (I think in a modern work on the 

f Criwides) a H«t, said to be copied frt^m the Annfds 

^Of Waverley Abl>ey, of the knights who accom- 

' Henry, son of David, King of Scot- 

cond crusade. I have since referred 

^ rlitiona of the " Annjdes Montis- 

in Mr. Luard^s Annales Alonua- 

. .i r ach liiiit, though the crusade is 

ioned. Can any of the readers of your in- 

ftblo publication inform me where the list in 

qttistian ijf to be found i Miles. 

* MumtaUa^-itl-L^dru by Klidfi Eliia. Fenian text, 
' i Indtca, Tol. ii, p. 781. 

(4^ S. X., xi., xii. passim; 5«» S. L 98.) 

I do not pretend to be able to enter into this 
question respecting these Earls of Winchester, 
which has been argued with much leiuming, though 
their early history does not yet «eem to be aatis- 
fcictorUy cleared up. Having, however, been led. 
for other objects, to read over a number of old 
charters, I have had my attention drawn to refer- 
ences to the De Quiucy liuuily, and aa I do not 
ftnd that these have been noticed by any of your 
correspondenU, it may assiut Anolo-Scotus and 
Mr. SiiiTu in their researches if I give, in the 
briefest manner, the purport of these charters. The 
first to which I refer is in the "liber de Dtj- 
biu*gh," presented to the Bannatyne Club by 
Mr. Spottiswoode, and there at Ko. 138 it reads 
thus : — 

** OtnnibiiM, kc, Eog«nii de Quinoy, comes Wintonle 
et conBtabulanuB Scocie, eteniam in Domino aaJuiem. 
Norerit univtirsitu T&stra no« divine pietatis tntuitii et 
prosalntc anime nostre et Alyenore Bponse meeetpro 
amtnabus AlanL de Galwytha et Helene alie sue quondanL 
sponao nostre/* kc. 

Then he goes on to say that he gives " totum 
boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod " to the Abbey of 
Drj'burgh. Like idl other charters of this chartu- 
lary no names of witnesses are given, but Mr. 
Eraser, the learned editor of these charter?, thinki^ 
that the date may be circa 12ik:i This, however, 
is somewhat too early, as Roger could not have 
assumed the title of Earl of Wmchester before the 
death of his father^ Seher, which took place in the 
Holy Land a.d. 1219, as shown by Mr. Smith. 
The next charter (No, 139) is ** super piscaria in 
lacu de Mertonn/* which Roger gives ** pro salute 
anime nostre et Alienorc spouse nostre," but he 
does not refer to his former wife, Helen. Again, 
in another charter (No. 141), he gives to the Abbey 
of Diyburgh " totum toftum meum quod habui in 
villa de Hadyngtoun, illud scilicet quod dominus 
Willelmus quondam rex Scocie (1165-1214) 
domino Kobcrto de Quincy avo meo dedit," &c, 
Mr. Eraser attaches the same date to this charter, 
but as Wdliam the Lion died in 1214, and he is 
here spoken of as *' quondam rex," the charter 
muat be later. I shall not, however, enter into Uie 
question, but merely give these references for tlie 
consideration of Anolo-Scotus. 

Then going to the *' Liber de Melros ''presented 
to the Bannatyne Club by the Duke of Buccleuch 
in 1837, I find the name of Robert de Quincy 
(No. 39) mer' " ^ i a charter of Robert Avend, 
de Escheda^ - to the Abbey of Melrose 

"terram me..... .-. ^..^t•hedale, scilicet, Tumlochec 

et Weidkerroc." We arts \:o\i m ^^ O^asxVtx ^\^^ 
this b a confttmaUoTi ot t\u& ofvygaisl ^gy«»X^'«^^^V 



[$** ,ri. Auc.15,74. 

him (Robert Avenel) in the reign of ^lalcolm 
(1153-1165), and which he now requests his Lord, 
William the Lion, to confirm. Tlie witnesses to 
the original charter are the foOoiring : — 

"Ricartlufl epiflcopue SAncti Andrce, Engclrftmiii epis- 
coptu dt Ol&aifue, Gregoniu episcopos de DnnkeK (jAU- 
fridua ibbbaa de dmnferliDe. Jobanoes ftbbas de kelcbo, 
Alnredtii ablMU de strivelin^ Nicholauf canccOarius, 
M&ttheus iirchtd!acoiiu9, Walleuus conies^ Duaecanua 
cotnep. Ported gduim. Malcolmui come», Ricardu^ de 
morevill, Wal tenia filiii* ftlAoi, Darid oUfurd, Rohfrtus 
de fjuincf, Ricardua ctmiin« Bemardua filiui bricn, 
ll*jbertu* de berkele, Wolteni* clericiia, Walteni* de 

Thi? recited charter is nndnted, hut as we know 
that Tn^elraiii was appointed Bishop of Glasgow 
lat Nov,, 11G4, and Malcohn TV. died 1165, it 
^xes the charter to one of these two years. Then 
again the name of Robert de Quincy appears in ti 
charter (Xo. 42) of Williaiu the Lion, confirming 
a grant of Robert Avenel of lands in E»kdale to 
the abbey. There is another charter (No. 49) to 
which I would dniw particular attention : — 

*' Omnibufl, kc. Era quondanfi uxor Roberti de quinci 
Balutem. NorerTt uQiTersitaa Testni foe via;ind ftcru$ 
terre arabilis ernis<e cnniiguai! metis gmngie de edmund- 
■tone eC eas do, kc^ pn'o lAlute domint me! Willelmi 
regis Scocie et . . . , pro aniTnabiia dominonim m^onam 
Boberti de quincy ct Walteri de Berkeley et ftolandi 
fratria niei efc Johannii filii mei et Chriatiae Bororie 
mee»" kc. 

Again, at the commencement of the reif^n of 
Alexander IL (1214), he coniiram nil the lauds 
that had been j^ranted in former rei;jn'^ to the 
Abbey of Melrojje, and the lirst two witnesses are 
" Willelmus de Boacho, eancellarius ineiL^, SeiheruH 
de Quinci comes Wintone." Air^iin, we have the 
sauie Klnvr Alexander (No. 278) condmiLng a 
charter gnxntin^^ the land *' de Rjisawe,'* in which 
the name of no;jjer de Quincy appeal's. It is dated 
** a pud R<^>ksbiirjEr Anno regni douiini regis duo- 
decimo Septimo die Martiss,*- i. c, 1226, 

I hfivc a tew more references to these De Qulncis 
from other charters, but^ to avaid occupying loo 
much of your space at one time, shall, with your 
permission, return to the subject in a future paper. 

C, T. Ramaqe. 


44.)-^FiTZHnrKixs objects to Macauhiy's assertion, 
in his essay on Milton, that Paradut Ritjained is 
superior to every poem which has since made its 
appearance. This is, I am well aware, considering 
the great poets who have lived Kince Milton^s time, 
a strong assertion on the part of the briOiunt essayist, 
but I cannot help thinking that he h nevertheless 
right. It is very difUcult to speak positively in a 
matter of criticism, as every one >viil naturally be 
guided to a certain ext^ent by his or her own personal 
tastes and predilections ; but, according to my own 
judgment, the greatest things whkh English poetry 
has achieved since Milton's death are Words- 

worth*« Ode on Iniiinniiom of /wmarfaiifi/. ftod - 
parts of the fourth bix*k of the E^fcutiiQjn. ; ByronVj 
Address to the Ocean, and the stanzas on Walerloo» i 
both in Ckikh Harold; Shelley's Adomiif; GrajRi 
£lf(jy; and perhnps to these I may add the Battle 1 
of Flodden Field in Afflrmi<m,^all written befotvJ 
1825, the date of Macaulay's essay. Now, b«| 
would be a bold critic who would niiiintainl 
tliat any one of these lofty flights of the Muse- 1 
is equal to the incomparable f^ --*; r f,fj 
Athens in the fourth l^ook of Para ttd, \ 

a description which is, I believe, uii» ,., . tveuj 

in the pcetry of ancient Greece. Whm wo re* 
member that our divine Milton never siiw Athens*! 
with his bodily eyes, our adrainition of his genius] 
is lost in wonder at the astonishing power of J 
imagination which could thus assimilate what He I 
could only have known through books, and refiro-l 
duce it in such a nmnner as to present us with a I 
picture of " the eye of Greece, mother of arts and I 
eh^quence,^ immeas^unibly superior to any evefj 
penned by a traveller who had actually vinited it,| 
The poet's description of imperial T' ^ 'Ughl 

quite worthy of ]m genius, is h:ii 1 toj 

that of Athens. Some people might ari i 
tn wonder at this, knowing that Milton 1' 
Rome, whereas he had never visifced Alhtii? ; Luv ■ 
that it is so only proves how detply imlnie^d th<r| 
poet was with the spirit of Greek literature. It i«l 
alsf> a proof of the fact tlmt the eye of imaginatiottj 
really sees more clearly than the bodily eye. 

FiTznopKiNS differs from Macaulay in hil 
opinion of the Facrir Queme, Macaulay complaioy 
that it is tedious. I am so ardent an athnirer ' 
Spenser myself, that I am only too ready to take 
up the cudgels when I hear him depreciated ; an " 
not very long ago you were so kind as to insert 
note of riiine in which I drew attention to th9 
singnhir fact that Sir John, now Lonl, ColeridgeJ 
in his lecture on Wordsworth at Exeter, did no 
even damn Spenser with faint pmisc, but simpl/ 
ignored his name altogether in speaking of ih^ 
greatest English poets. Notwithstanding, howJ 
ever, my iitrong nppreciation of Spenser, I do r»o^ 
feel disposed to he very angry with !il;itiiidiir». 
feeling certain in what sense he meant that thoj 
Faerie Quccm is tedious. I once re4ui the 
right through from beginning to end, but this is i 
feat which I have only accomplished once. Like 
FiTznoi'KiNs, I trouble myself very little about 
the allegory, and only read it for its poetry. I do 
not suppose I sludl ever read the poem from he- 
ginning to end again, but parts of it I have res *" 
(and hope still to read) so often that they >**'<> lu 1 
be inseparably hound up with niy very * 
e. g.y the Bower of Bliss, Una and the \\ 
the Cave of Mammon, and a hundred ot i 
poetical descriptions scAtt-ered through 
Having thus expressed my great adhiUimoM 
Spenser's poet^, I trust I ah«dl not b*s considc 



I to him Lf I Bay thiit I think the Faerie 
h tedious to rwul right tliroiigh, at any 
re«d thn>tirrh more th(4n once. Its length 
eat, being nearly equnJ to that of the Iluid. 
fittij^ and the Ailiuvl together, that S{>en- 
•nius would Imve hud to he almost super- 
to eouhle hlni to Bostain so great a work 
qnally lofty wiBg right through to the end, 
er booka Jire not^ except^ perhflpa, here and 
oual t*. the e^irlier ones. 

uhiy terms Spenser tedious, I am 
^ only nienn it in the sease in 
fc i^c«U hman, of whom I hare been told, 
►cott '^prohi," It shows no disrespect to 
Biriotui novelist to feet that his descriptions 
me lire tometimes rather long dmwn out ; nor 
show any disrespect to him who was ubove 
?ts the "Pfiet of the Beriutifrd, to feel that 
Iho f arms J with which the Fatrit ^luetric. so 
B resound.^i, at length palls on the ear. 
pfor myself, I would gladly exchange some 
& "hattjules tierce ^' for a few more Bowers 
and Garden,** of Adonis. That Macsniky 
ly iiUve t4j Hpenaer's ^^nt merits, la suffi- 
©rinced by his tenniufr him, as he docs in 
f on Bunyanj ** assuredly one of the greatest 
i_ev€r lived." Jonathan Buuchier. 


CoLMAN (5*^ S. i. 487.)— The short 
*A Reckoning with Time," consisting of 
it&nzas (in all seventy-two lines), was puh- 
Iritli other fugitive pieces, in 1818, under 
» of Fodical VagarUi. In a foot-note the 
remarks that '* Reckoning with Time " 
•cd three or four years ago, at the request of 
^ 1 a monthly publication, whence it was 
Bo a few work>i of a similar description. 
W^iiB fir^t purposely written to be intro- 
J the present tale, viz., Low Ambition; or, 
^gml Death of Mr. Dan, a,nd has been seen 
■bts a little n^ore fugitive (perhaps) than 
Kthe author trusts he may he excused for 
I it in the place of its original dei:tination.'' 
iinall v<i!inn»' mKo contains — " An Ode to 
k"; **The Lady of the 
■ygig''; "Two Parsons; 
rSftle of a Hhirt '; and ** Vagaries Vindl- 
I Joeni addressied to the Reviewers. 

W. Platt. 

ik the enclosed must be the ** Reckoning 
fflie,^ by George Colman the Younger, of 
our corresfK/ndent J. C H. is in search. 
I ;»ifMriM 1,1,,, where it Ls to be found, but 
many (oh, how many !) ye^rs 
lace book, I have much plea- 
a copy, and shall be please<l 
dw ledge it with real name and 
initials beinf^ those of two friends 

of mine, I am anxious to know if cither of them ia 
the appl leant. 

**A RicKoiriKo wiTB Triti. 
Bj George Cotman the Younger. 

Come on, old Time ! nay that i« staff; 
Gaffer ! thou coin'et on fas^t enough ; 

WingM foe to feather'd Cupid ! 
But tell me, Sftudrnwi I e*er thy grains 
Have multiplied upon my brams 

So thick to make me stupid. 

Tell me, Death's Joumevman ! but no ; 
Hear thou »ty speech ; t will not grow 

Irrev'rcnt while I try it. 
For tliou^jh I mock thy fliglit, 'tis said! 
Thy forelock fills me with such drfod 

/ n>er€r takt ihte hy %L 

List thou old lit Wtxtt and To ht/ 

I 'U state teconnts Hwixt thee and me :— 

Thou fcav'st me first the meaAles ; 
With tcethiner ^Tould'st have taken m© off, 
Then mnd'nt me with the hooping-cough 

Thinner than fifty weasels. 

Thou gav'st small-pox (the dragon now 
That Jenner combats on a cow) ; 

And thetj some seeds of knowledge ; 
Grainf of Grammar, which the flails 
Of pedants thnuh upon our tails 

To fit us for a college. 

And when at Christchurch 'twas thy sport 
To rack my brains with sloejuice port^ 

And lectures out of numl>er ; 
When Freshman Folly tiuftfTs and stni^. 
While liruduate Dulness clogs thy wings 

With Mathematic lumber. 

Thy pinions next (which, while they ware. 
Fan alt our birth^iays to the grareji 

I think. eVr tt vtm prudent, 
BttUooned from the schools to towni 
When 1 was parachuted down 

A dapper Temple student. 

Then murh on Dramas did I look, 
And «»lighted thee and jfrcat Loid Cot*^ 

Congrtvf beat Biachtont hollow ; 
Shakspeinre made all the statutes stalc# 
And in mi^ crown no pleas had EuU 

To supersede Apollo* 

Ah, Time J Those raging heats, I find. 
Were the mere Dog Star of my miod — 

Hnw c*>ol is retrospection. 
Youth's ^audv Summer »olstice o'er. 
Experience* yields a mellow itore, 

All Autumn of rf flection. 

Why did I let the god of song 

Lure me from Law t*! join his tbronir, 

GaU'd by ^otikc *li^ht appLaases f 
What's Tcrte to A when versus B 1 
Or what ' John Bull/ a Comedy, 

To pleading John RulVf caoaes? 

Hut though my childhood felt diteaset 
Though my lank ptir^e, tm^wolVn by feev 

Some rag,' ' ' .^ r>etted, 

Still honest CI I moat true 

To thee (and fiii,. , , ys foo| 

I 'tn very m\kQh \nj^«l^Vb4^ 



(5»B.n. Atrial 15,71. 

For tbou Luist miule me a^oMy tough. 
Inured mc to each day ihaX's rougb^ 

In hopefl of culm to-morrow ; 
And Vfhen. old Mower of us aJl, 
BeDe&lh thy Bweeinng «cyth« I fall. 

Some ftv dtarJrUiidt will wrrow. 

Then thottgli my idle prose or rhyme 
Should half-an-uour outlive me» Time, 

Pray hid the atone-engrft?cr§. 
Where'er my iKnies fiod churcbyiird room, 
Simply to chifcl od my tomb, 

' Thank Time/or all hiifavomrt / * " 

Sam. Bell. 

The first edition of hk Poctiad Votaries was 
publislied in 4to,, Id 1812. This I have not seen, 
but the second edition, smflll fevo., Longmans, 181-4, 
is now before nie, and in it I find LLe piece which 
J, 0. H. is in search ol\ "A Reckoning with 
Tune," the firat lines of which he has not given 
quite correctly ; the true readiug is — 

*' Come on* old Time ! nay thftt is atuff; 
Gaffer ! thou com'st on fast enougrh ; 
Wing'd foe to fe^ther'd Capid ! " 

E. V. 

Adam's First Wife (5**^ S. L 387, 495.)^ 
Folck Lebahn, in the notea to Goethe'a Faust, 
pp. 599, COD, gives the following :■ — 

'* Ala Gott im Amfang den ersten Ad&m im Pariuliej 
eiosam f^schaffen, hat er geaae;t : Eb ist nicht ^ntj daaa 
dieBer Meii»ch olkein sei^ bat inm dcsholb ein Weib am 
der Erden gtsohnfTent ihoi gleich, und dieaelbigo Lilia 
geheiisfteo. Alsbiild haben diese iwei aii£efang«n niit 
einander xu hadera und zu zankon, und nat 4&.S Weib 
jcesprochen: Icb will dir nicht unterwUrfig »ein; und 
der Mann sprach ; Ich will aucb nicht UDi«r dir aein, 
eondem tiber dich herraclien, denn dir gcbiibrt unier- 
thMuig lu sein. Da antwortet dfts Weib : Wir aind beide 
gleicb, und keinoa iat beAser ala daa andere^ darum du«s 
wir beidc aiis der Erde gema«ht Bind, und sind also 
UDgebonnun und widorspUQEtig gegen einander verblie- 
ben. All nun die Lilis geteheo, da^ cs keine Einigkeit 
zwiscben ihnen geben werde, bat aie den beiligcn Xamen 
^Schem hamphortucJi {dz& Ui der heili|fe Kamen Gottea 
Jehova, mit aeiner heimlichen Cabali^tischcn Auelegung, 
djiwider Luther mu Biiclileia gcichrieben hat) aus- 
geaprochen, und i^t uhbald damit in der freicn Lult hin- 
weg geflogen. Ua ppr&ch Adam zu Gott: Uerr der 
ganxen Welt, daa Weib, da» du mir gegeben baat, ipt von 
mir gefiogen. Da achiokto Oott der Lilia droi Engcl 
na«h, Senotf Samenoh Sanmanffefopk, und eprach zu 
Ihnen : Will sie wieder zttriick kebren, wobl und gut, wo 
aber nicht^ to solkn idle Tage hundert von ibren Kin- 
dern sterbon. Alao jageten dieae En^cl ibr nach, uud 
crreichten sie iiber dem Meer. da ea eehr ungeatiini ge- 
weaen, ebeo an dem Ort, wo die Egypter haben eollen 
hemaeh ertrinken^ und Koigeten ibr den Befehl Oottea 
an. AU aie nber nicbt geborchen nnd xurbckkebfen 
woUte, aprachen die Engel . Wir wollen dich in dem 
Meer eraiiufen, wo du nicbt zurilck kehreat. Da bat 
Lilia, sie ftollten sie doch nur bleibeu laseen* denn sic set 
nur cr»ebaffcn, dasa sie die jungen Kinder vom acbten 
Tag, von ibrer Gcburt her, wenn o^ ^' ' ' ^cien, und 
vom jEwanzigsten Tag, wcnn es ?: an, pUgc 

und b'jdte. Ala golehca die En^cl I: I'teu bio rIo 

mit Gewalt nehmcn, uud wieder zuni Adutu fUhren. Da 
gehwor ihnen die Lilii rinen Bid, daas flo oft aie ibren 

(der Eiigel) Nomen odcr Ge*tn!t, n«f firrfm TJ^Jttfl. 1*<t- 

jKament oder anderswu 

keine Gewalt iiber die 1 

thneiimcbtazuLeide tL- . .» 

und diescn Flucb und titrate ericiden woUe^ daw aiie 
Tage von ibren Kindern bundert *terl»«»Ti «<»nt^fi. E« 
■ina also bemacb alle Tage hundfi 
Teofel von ihren Kindern gostorl> 
die Ursaohe, warutn wir dieae i 
Kamca odcr PergamentZctttd icLrcibeu u\ 
iren Kindern anhangen, dasti namlicb, wen 
dieae Zottel oder Ge^cbriftaiebt, aie an ihren Lju »:c(iLUJ^'.. 
und den Kiudern keinen Schaden thuc. — (Brn i$ir<f,J — 
Von oincm Teufelsgesptinat in Wcibdgestalt verit lirn c5 
aach die Juden, welche in der Hammer em 
terinn inwendig und aurwendig un die Th^ 
Wand und um daa Bctt : Adam, Cb^t*- 
achreiben, d. h. Adam, Eva, heraus dn 1 
'* Adam aoll nacb ficiner Veratoiiaunj 
diese, wider seinen liVlllen, mit der Lili^ loiJ JaIuc hm;; 
lauter Riesen und bJ>8e Geiflter gezeugt haben. — (Geneiii 
v.1,2,3; vi.l,2,3,4,r 

J. C. Glouoil 


" Built here for his ekvt " (5*** S. ii 7,)— 
Bentley iiTitea a very pregnant note upon lhi»:-^ 

** To raise sense from more nonaenae ia much tMUr 
and surer of acceptance than to ndae atill better artu«e 
from good and tolerable. No doubt God bml 
receptacle for Satan and hie crew ; but to tu 
it not for his own tnvy^ aa if he could ever wish m cuaijjt 

Xlacea with them, isaomothing eitravaganL Let'a reduce 
Liiton's own words :— 

* Th' Almighty had KO butt 
Here for hjB envy; will not drive ua hence.* 
No butt, no object, no acope for his envy here ; hecAiuiol 
think the place too good and delightful for ua." 

Richardson, in his I}iction€t;}'y^ gives ** ^ ' ** 
n neuter substantive equivalent to bu: 
cites the passage from Dryden's Anni' ^m r 
Archery and niusketry butts are alwa}*s tbi»i:.^ 
builded or built, and it would be y^ry easy t^ 
account for the thing huiU becoming synonyn" i^ 
with a huity supposing we could find an}' such u v 
of it in any special trade or local dialect. 

C. A. Warp. 

and also applied to the 

fact equivalent to our ou ^. , . , 

subaltern, an ensign. It is used more tbitn onoe 
in Shakspeope ; — 

" This ia Othello** Qnclenl, aa I take it. 
The same indeed ; a very valiant fellow/* 

And again :— 

'' 0(A, So pleaae your grace, my anckni ; 
A man he ia of honesty and trust ; 
To hia conveyance I assign my wife.'* 
J. 8. Udai. 
Junior Alhenieum Club. 

Is not atieiint or antunt equivalent to tAti^ f 
** Lord Westmoreland Ida ancvent raiide. 
The Dun Bull he rays'd on bye"— 



V^&.U.A\iQ.U, 74] 


I^js the f}]d bnlLid ; luid ut n later date, almost 

• d by J. IL B., we find the word, used 

tiie sense of ancieot or ensign hearer, 

le in Went worth Church, co. York : — 

Auno Domini 1(^67 : hj the appomtment 

_ liurl of 8traffbrdo this itono U kid over the 

Hr. Elch&rd Mftrrie, whu died in the ;e&r 1635^ 

ir«rdl and ancient to his lonUhip^a cTcr most 

f&ther Thomtfl Eorle of BtrAforde/' 


indent^ in the sense noted by J. H. B.^ means 
MvdArd-ljearer. The word ia of constant occur- 
rence in our older literature, to signify an heraldic 
etiK " - ^ ittle standard. Fidatati' says of his 
m* r y are "ten times more diahonoumbJe 

ihiMi . u hw^ed ancimt" — 1 Hmry IF, Act iv, 

«c. 2. There ia an order in the Leycester Cor- 
Rsipondence, A.D. 1586, for "causing the foraaid 
fiotudgiprH to he kept under their auneicnta^^^ p. 17. 
The balitvi of Tfi^ J^mng in fA« North tells how-^ 
^£r1e PercT there hli aiicy<n( aprcd^ 
The Half^e-Moone thininf aII to f^ire ; 
The HoTiooA anc^tat bad the croiSt 
And the fire wounds our Lord did btare." 

Edward Psacocs* 

i inttgn in modiani phnyieolo^. The atUi^t 
[ Wm the juune given to a fstandjirdV and also to li^ 
I bMrtr. In ShakBpetire we have ** ancient Pistol/* 
GolglftTe, in hia IMdiofiary^ English iind Frendi, 
1960, giveir " An Ancient or Eoaigno in warres, 
£Djeigne"; and under *'EniM*igne/— ** An Enyigne, 
JUintient, St^uiiLkrd hearer ; he that, in war, carries 
}, goUquts of a coni|XLny of foot/' 


ThJj* is a religious^ and not a military term. The 
mmiinU in ** Lord Pett?rborough*a regiment against 
|||0 king " wa8 no doubt a Pnjsbyterian deacon, 
eldfvrt or antieiit, for all the:*e terms were, and are, 
still u^d in Calvinistic established churches and 
m Englitfh Dissenting congregsitions. The term 
cifiltfn^ in French ancUn^ w iu*ed in foreign 
Luthenui and Calvinistic churches. He is what 
the Scotch churches call a deacon. He receive* a 
fidnor ordination, and hands the cup in the admi- 
~' The Communion. He b &ko a sort of 

I. and in iwme con^r^jsfationii is found 
' -onage. 

Th t-d and 

OUUpi.M 1^ I rj i; i>:ipn.''i ludiir^u-r '»i «, aiuuringr, said, 
*' Tfiilk to me of your Lonl Bifjhopa ! Lord deliver 

mt* *' ' '^ Tv:icon!" The IHciimiTtuire 

U> Le La Chatre, Paris, 1855, 

oiuL - .^^ .. ii/'iiays: — 



>md0nn6 ii tm certain nombre 

nt ^^nrmi le petiple, lea^aelies 

I tipoeedit Je ooiiai«toirc qui 

>a, et ao mMntien de la 

I^td Peterborough's ehaplAin would be a Cal- 

vinist, and an aniient or elder was, therefore, a 
necesaarj Aid or asnstant to him. 

Jahks Hekkt Bixok* 

EAinsL (Sl^ B. I 388.)— This form, apparently 
foimd only in Jeremiah xxxL 15, in the Englum 
verKLon, may be a misprint, but I suspect other- 
wise. If I understand him rightly, Mr, J^Iant is 
WTong in saying that it is found in the English 
version only, as it is the regular form in the Welsh 
veraion, and hencoi perhaps, we may arrive at its 
origin. In this way, I thinks it will be found that 
tliei"c was at least one Welshman on King James's 
Bible Revision Committee, and that he himself 
reviiied several portions of the Old Testament. To 
him I attribute the form in question* It would 
be inte resting to know when it ^t appeareii in 
the English version, J. C. Ukkokk* 

P.S. — Spurrell, in his Cmmarihen andiU Neigh^ 
bourhood, aays that Biahop Richard Daviji, D.D.. 
translated Joshua, Judges, Euth, 1 Samuel ana 
2 Samuel, in the English Bible in 1568* and 
1 Timothy, Hebrews, James, 1 and 2 Peter, in the 
Welsh New Testament. What Ls Mr, Spume tl*s 
authority for his first statement, I do not know ; but 
the authority for the second is Saleabury's Welsh 
New Testament, first published I5G7. 

The form " Rahel " is warranted by the Hebrew, 
the letter h representing the Hebrew letter if eyth 
I the ^aUtural /*;, Hryin is (Uicays so represented 
when initial, **<;., Hannali, Hermon, Horeb, Hophni, 
with two exceptions, Enoch, Eve ; and nearly 
always when in the middle of a word, «, /?., Beth- 
lehem, Gehasi, Ahasuerus, Ahaz. ** RaheV' there- 
fore, is more correct than the well-known Maehel, 

A% L. Mayhew. 


I have in fiiy possession a copy of the Enjgllsh 
Bible in which the name of " Bachel " Ls printed 
in the fifteenth verse of the thirty-first chapter of 
Jeremiah. Gborge Elub, 

St. John's Wood. 

more accurate form of the 

_ „ .,.1 ,.j T^^chel, In the 

1 throughout^ 

..-,.-.. , ..m of 1611, and 

in Jeremiah xxxi. 15 only.** 

'jve s article in Smith's />if- 

Vitk also a foot-note, t«v. 

J. Manuel. 

4'^B.iiL220; xiL 128.] 

"RaheP* is **thc 
familiar name el ' "^ 
older English \< 
butsnr^ivp-^ '" + 
in our p^e^' 
—See Mr. C ^ . 
iionanf of the Mtbk. 
" Rachel," p. 988. 


KxtniR AKD Spkll (5"» S. i. 348.)— In the 
Skiichesfrom Cnmhri^ige,^. 13, Mr. Leslie Stephen 
says, *'We have now every game that lilies the 
pages of BtlVi lA/ty except the profoundly mys- 
tenons knurr and spell/* Bo ]Mr. Bi/:**^^ \* iseis* 
alone in \m c\\™%\ly i^XymV X^sa^ ^xel^. l^^fw' 



[5^i,lLAcc. iri,7c 

I take It to be tlie same ua ** northern spell,*' tliousxb 
which is the proper name I eiinnot guess ; and for 
the " profound mystery '* of it Mr* Blood (also 
Mr. Leslie Stephen, if he cluance to see this) is 
referred to Strutt's Sports and Pastimes^ p. H>9 
(Hone*a edition), where it will appear that the 
^i^ame is played with a trap, bat, and ball^ the 
contest being simply who shall strike the ball 
farthest with a j^fiven number of strokes. If I 
remember rights this tigured in the Boy^ Own 
Book I used to read twenty years ago, 

Charles F. *S. Warrkn, M.A, 

This is a common field game in Craven, and 
matches are played. The knurr is a small ball of 
lignum yiUt'j which is struck out of a wooden stand 
by a tiexible stick or wand thiit has a bit of wood 
at its end. This stick is the spell. Some philo- 
logists have asserted that knurr huH uolhing to do 
with the wooden bidl, tin* name of the game being 
a corruption of " northern spell." I do not fall 
in with this idea. Htkphen Jackson^ 

This game is called by Strutt *' northern spelL" 
Haliiwell makes knurr the small ball of hard wood, 
and spell the trap from which it is struck ; but 
Strutt's spelling seems to point to " Norden spiel." 

It is very popular in the clothing districts of 
the West Eidmg, betting on the crack professional 
players, and the conseipieot drinking, being the 
attraction- The contest i^ who shall strike the 
b;dl to the greatest distance In a given number of 
strokes. W. G, 

[See " N. & Q." i'^ S. i. 294, 325, 468.1 

" Wisdok's bettbh than money," &c. (5^*^ S. 
i. 149.) — This volume appean to be composed of 
two distinct works. If so, the latter is, I pre-surae* 
im English translation of a work by De la Chambre, 
a French writer, entitled jL'. 4 rf dt Connotstrc Its 
Homm€^^ and published at Amsterdam in 1669, 
the year of the authors death. 

Gaston be Bkrneval- 


The Lancashire Word " Areawt" (S*"^ S. L 
ltf3.)— ^J^^' Entwible, referring to Hones com- 
mentary on the woixl aroint, <jUotes his or Bou- 
chers allusion to the Lancashire word areawt, 
which, he say.^, signifies *jd out, or avmij vnth thcc. 
Mr. Entwisle {Sds, in a note, that ** the Lanca- 
shire equivalent to this now-a-days is ger cmtC 
Hone or Boucher might have been pardoaed for 
the mistjdie here made, but it is scarcely excusable 
in a Lanciiahiie man. Arcmci means outside, or 
out of doors. It has no connection whatever with 
the word aroints Thus John Collier, in his Tim 
Bohhin \^lVorkSf p, 58), iwiys:— **1 re no soi>ner 
areawt boh a threave o' rabblenient wur watch in 
on meh at t* dur," which translated = ** I was no 
sotmei outside than I found a rabble crowd watch- 

ing for me at the door." Agsdn, Samuel Bamford, 
in bis ^'Wild Rider" (Hoimbj IChjmfa^p, 74) says: 
*' And why cornea a gentleman riding aToueT 
And vthy doth he vrander tirtawt i<uch » night ? '* 

The wo nl is still in use in the few districts in Lan*l 
c^Lshiro where the dialect it? sfxjken. With regard 1 
to the wor«l arointj I am pnzzled to determine I 

whother it ever was in common use i- ^ hire. 

Although given in some of otir verj' ol- 

lections of county words, I have jum ....... ,.. ic t'>-j 

discover it in the text of any writer of the dialect, 1 
and only one of the thirty contributors engaged J 
upon the Glossary now in preptinuion professes 
to have heard it. This gentleman, 3klr. T, T. 
Wilkinson, of Btiniley, a close and conscientious J 
observer, haj* heard the word used in the sense of J 
stand aside or gel att^y, imd he suggests that it ml 
connected with the Icelandic knind and German | 
i^tidc. J. H. Nodal. 

Heaton Moor, near Stockport. 

"A Rowan-Tree*' (5«»S. i. 161)— The word I 
'• rowan *' is a probable inversion of om-w#, or it^ I 
root, QptLv-os ==-' mountainous, wild, growing wild. ] 
A propos of ** aroint,-* we tind roinf tfur^ aDdj 
araunte thin' ; and there is the Cheshire rynti 
ihee; and we have also arongt. Jamieaon renderal 
runt the "trunk of a tree "; and, as a third me«n-| 
ing, *' an old woman, t. q. a withered hf<^." Bi*^ 
gives abio Scottish runt^ **a contemptuou 
tion for an old woman,*^ and says in 1 
hrund in explained ** nuilier," but particuhuly huta J 
the name of a heathen goddess. Again, in Scc»t- 1 
land J runt is an old cow; in England, an ox or cow I 
of giiiall size. The Belgic rund is a bullock; the j 
Geruian no**/, an ox ttr cow, Jamieson says, m\ 
the north of England, a woman is said to be r«nt^| 
when she is fifty years old, it being a questioul 
sometimes put to a son— **Is your mother rtifi^afl 
yet?" I take it, however, that the nropej etynio-| 
logy of aroint is from arry awint, which I 'ot grave I 
renders " on afore, away there hoe ; from ihtiJ 
carter's cry, arry, and kori ho" 

R. S. Cbarsock. 

Gray'a Inn. 

P,S, — The Norman arr signifies in an- «^ \^ 

arraigned ; arveii^ arreyn^ antut, is u i 
and rcyntm fi^ned; ?«nf, reint^ indicted, . . 
fined. The 0*G. haren is rendered vocart^ ciamar 
and haro, clamor, 

Tliis extract may possibly throw some light on 
the derivation of ** ai^oynt " or ** aroint ": — 

*'*Aroynt thee/ get ye gone^ bo off! In Cbethin 

they Bay 'rynt yc, witch' ; and m^^' -'-^ * 

cowa, when they have done milkii 

beauties* (Saxon, a-rennan, run < ; 

Welsh, rhiD, a cb&imel for vrtitcr, ivbe&cc iiLhincJ. — (J 

Bictionaty of Phratu and Fahit, by the Rev. E. Ooblli 

Brewer, LL.D. 


» 8, IL Ado. 15,71.] 



148.) — This was not the first book prtntet] from 
Saatoa t jpes* at lejwt three Saxon books havinrr beeo 
prititi?tl in 1567, The earliest of these is believed 
to bc\— 

** A Teitimonie of ftntiquitie Shewinit thfi ftuncient 
~Tlh in %he Church of England, touching the sacntment 
r the liodjr mad bInuJe of the Jjord here publikeHy 
ebcd. Mid also rece&ucd in the Smxoni iymct abotie 
ytnm ngoe . . , Jmprinted «l London by John 
Dftj, dvteUing ower Aldengate beneath 8* M&rtjus.' 

A cojiy of this curious book now lie« before me. 
It consists of seventy 'five numbered leaves, in- 
eluding title, followed by thirteen unnumbered. 

There tire some |>ei'uliiiritie3 of tbi.^ book that 
tieem to hftve ef^^ipetl the notice of bibliofjrapherji, 
one uf which h that folios 7H-S6 contain *' The 
Louies |»rayer, the Crcede, and the x Commiiunde- 
mcntx in the Snxon and JEnglishe toiin;Te/' with a 
etrictly liUral ijitfTiinear trandaHon, Is not this 
the cfirlicst instJinc« of the kind extunt ? A well- 
koowTi t#«iirher of lanj?iK\ge.«T named Hamilton, who 
floti ' ' me thirty or forty years af^o, cbiinied 
to inator of interlinear tnvnsIatioDP^ and 

cTc t. me system of teaching biwed on tbem 

Ibr li r 1 1 1 rj ian syitem. His clftinw to originality 
were ui^pultrd on the ground that he waa merely 
the i^n<i to 'tpply the system, but that Lo<*ke and 
AjKjhsim had rteotnmtnded it or something akin to 

! it Horf, however, b», at this early date, not 
mrr»lr n >ii ^estion, but a practical cxompliHcation 
<»f Hum il too, after a lapse of nearly 

I thrr t years, claimed m his own. 

Oafton de Bkrneval. 


A Conjecture (5** S. ii. 26.) — Gronoviua says 

MMMgC : — 

2Um, VtT^m kax t» t^cun hcJ^eh, Sic habent 
Watt M8S. Lambino teste» neque etiam Munatiui 
lsprt»baL Bed MftUsp. »on placet; qui ^uspkmtur 
h£md9m, nihil f*^m rirfvm. B >*i! Tectioncin fvquitur 
JmAm. 6ed a^' f tam r€rum. 

ffitcim tocwm mam lectio- 

arai pr^chut) *; , r in libro IV,, 

Qhmrt. flap. 7, •t i^w ab aliurum truatmnciB matation- 
Ibot laf bUtam bic tcrravi/' 

It appears then that S. T. P/s emendation is no 
coojectoppj after all, but a reading supported by uU 
th<i MS8» 'To my mind, ridum is no bad gue*s ; 
rertainly more applicable than rertim to audi a 
prr»oti lui Antipho. Edmuxd Tew, M.A. 

OtD ExoRAVTNGS i**)*^ S. ii. 47.)— I believe that 
tlie old Cable of " The Siitvr aod the Traveller " is 

tlie rabject of the i 
pATnmsox, I t 
DMnc fif tbe pninh 
in my fioaM^i'Tu I 
io a fn^fid. ii 
and tlio 

■'"■ inquired for by Mr. 

have told him the 

.raver, for copies were 

ii^n they were given 

f . V vvofi" disi)08ed of, 

them, the 

■ dt. TbeiT 

was an inscription on the margin tindernciiih, \n 
both the English and French lungiuiges. 

John- PicKFonitf M,A. 
Kewbonroe Rectory, Woodbridge. 

T. AixiNfjToN (5^»» S. i. 288.}— Mr. Webb as- 
sumes that evcrj'body knows AJJington'si ^'ifmidl 
volume of |>ocms." I can find no such name in 
Allibone 4 Dutionaiy^ nor in any catalogue. If 
Mr. Wbbb will be more precise, perhapsr aotiie of 
your readers will be able to supply the information 
he asks for. The same remarks apply to hiii *|uery 
numbered 3. OLrnAR Hamst. 

JSLiRT SoMERviLLE (o^^ B. ii. 48.) — It apjiejirs 
from the ** Memoirs " that, when Mrs. Somerville 
put on pitper the opinion in question, she had J)een 
recently examining m, to her, new aubjecta Seiret's 
Analyst Supirieurt and Tail's QiiatcrnionM, Now, 
the former of these works in no respect trenches 
on the methods of the BitTerential Calcalu«, but 
the latter avowedly tends to rephtce the CarteBiaii 
Geometry of Co-ordinates. A hiptie of attention on 
the part of the venerable writer would account for 
the passage. E. C. S. 

Hkraldic (5**» S. iL 48.)— In reply to K, the 
henildic honours descend to B.'s children oidy. 

D. C. E. 
The Cre#cent, Bedford. 

Dr. Barton's Fvsa (5*'^ 8. li. (17.)— May not 
the answer, which St. S with in sa_vs he has been 
** supposing •* for the luat fifteen years, be a pifjwn 
paiT f Geo. Rippox* 


I think I know the reply ; and the fact of its 
being hardly printable in these day* will account 
for its being le<l to the imagination of the reader. 
J, Stores Smith. 

The Laurelf^ Chesterfield. 

The JurM>E& on CjaruiT ('t*^ 8. ii. 27.)— Mr. 
ARTnrR AViLLiAMs asks, bow is it that Her 
Majesty's judges^ when on circuit, never inter- 
clmuge hospitality with th** sberitl* of any English 
county except Yorkshire { He states that in 
Wales this cue torn does not prevail In Wales 
the jadges entertain the grand jury, and the 
sheritf is invariably invited ; and for ought that I 
have been able to discover, there is no reason why 
this should not be also the caBe in England. But 
it is quite clear that an interchange of hospitality 
would be wrong, for the statute 13 & 14 Charles 
II. c. 21, provides that — 

•• No person duly ■worn into the office of sheriff .... 
sball . . . . in the time of the acaixei held for the county 
or shire during hi« ih«rtff»lty keep or maintain or cause 
to be mamtaine'l one or moro table or tables for receipt 
Of Giitertainment of any ptnon or persona retorting to 
the said aniies other tbnn tUo»ve that shall b« ot \\\% tgrntii 
family or retinue, nor tbh\\ a\tvV<i ot wevA w^i ^v^***^^ 
any Judge or Judices ot Sxixvtl' kc« 



(y* 8, IL Aco. 

The necessity for thie, as set out in the preamble of 
the Act, amae "by reason of the g:mit and un- 
necessary charges in the time of tisaijies,'* which 
had *' of late years been retry burdensome to the 
gentry of the ReAhn.'^ 

Thw Act does not extend to the sheriffs of 
London and Middlesex, the sheriff of Westmore- 
land, or any sheritf of any city- and -county or 
town-and'County. The sheriffs of the City of 
London inviirial>ly entertain the judges sitting at 
the Old Bailey Mr. Williams probably con- 
founds Yorkshire with Westmoreland. 

J. RoLAiJD Phillips. 


MENnELsaoHN (5*^ S. ii* 88) was the grandson 
of Moaee Mendelssohn. See The ImiH^rial Die- 
tioTuiTy of Univenal Biography (Mackenzie, Lon- 
don), Fredk* Kule. 

Half-a-hundred correspondents can inform Jav 
AiTCH that the late eminent composer (bom Feb. 3^ 
18(H), died Nov. 4, 1847) was a descendant of the 
almost equally eminent philosopher. It htm been 
recorded of the great musician's father that he 
sometimes spoke of himself as having been eompli- 
meDiCHl in his youth as the son of the famous^ 
Mendelssohn, and in his latter days as the faihir 
of the famous Mendeksohn. 

Henry Campein, F.S.A, 

*'The Widow of the Wood ^' (5"» S. IL 88.)— 
The book about which your correspondent innuires 
ia siflid to refer to the Wolseley family, of Wolseley 
Hal!, in Staffordshire, and it is supposed to have 
been written by Benjamin Victor, dramatist. The 
" widow " in question is reputed to have been 
Anne, relict of a Mr, Whitley. She, according to 
the scandalous chronicle now In view, induced Sir 
William Wolseley to manr}^ her. as pirt of a com- 
plicated scheme, which it is not needful to repeat. 
Your correspondent will fin«l a copy of this book 
in the British Museum Library (U)81, d. 13/2), 
with the title *^ The Widmv of ihc Wood^ London, 
printed for C. Corbett, opposite St. Dunstan-s 
Churchy in Fleet Street, jfuccLv." The book was 
suppressed, but it does not appear to be very rare, 

F, G. S, 

The anthor of this work is said, in Bohn's 
LotvndeSj which see for note, to have lieen Benja- 
min Victor. The work was published in London 
in 1755, 12mo. 3^. ; and reprinted at Qlnsirow in 
1 7 69. A more lengthened account of * ' Th o Wi d ow '^ 
will be found in the Gentkman^s ilfo^etstnCjVol. xxv. 
(1755), p. nh K V. 

Watek-Hark (5*"^ S. ii, 8J>,)— The paper is 
Dutch paper, and the nmrk on it represents the 
genius of Holland holding, on a staff, the Hat of 
Liberty, which long precedefl the ^*«/do-clas»ical 
Phrygian cap now used with the same significance. 

** SnoTovER '' (6*^ S. il 91.) — Is there any other 
means than conjecture of tracing the supposed 
relationship of " Chateau Vert'* with •VShotorer^! 
In Dovfy^day Book it appears too* 'i 1) j 

as "Scotorne," with the other re*: - off 

"Stanuorde, Wodestock, Coxnberie, hKimuMie," 

Ed. Marshall. 

Be. Dee's Magic Mirroe (5*** S, ii. H6,) — j 
This celebrated relic of the absurdity of the seven- 
teenth century is quite safe and sound in iho I 
British Museum, It is a pink-tinted ghiss hall, | 
about three and a half inches in diameter, 

Geoboe Ellis, 

St John*8 Wood. 

The Scottish Family of Edgar (5*"* S. L 25, 
75, 192, 355, 430, 5(X).)— X. applies very UB- 
parliamentary expressions in his last ; howe 
special pleader must be excuseii, I ain jur 
in treating his remarks on two missing di 
its a skilful diversion to give a general character ti>' 
his criticism. At the same time, I am sure thst 
other readers will not find the omissionfl of wf 
he complains. 

X, says that it is ** quite puerile bringing in Ui«' 
Lyon King of Arms when the question is as to the 
judgment" shown by the author of the work. 
Here, I think, X. is a little disingenuous, The 
retd drift of the whole discussion is tx) attempt U^\ 
convince the public that the Rev. John Edgar, 
Hutton, was the heir male of Edgar of Newton, 
and, by implication, the heir male of Weddprlie 
and the judgment of the an^l^' '• ^»*^rris to 
impugned simply and solely 1 has no^| 

professed his belief in such ji. but 

left the authentic materials which b^ 
to speak for themselves. This beiu;. 
object of X., — the author having (as may 
by any reader of the '* Account of the 8i 
Edgar'-) refrained from passing any judgment^ 
maintain (always keeping in view the pretensior 
attempted to be established) that, not only 
there nothing puerile in pressing X* to 
crucial test of the Lyon Office, but su * 
is the only one worth anything, and • 
tried I make X. a present of all the rt' 
which he has raised, and which I I 
him well employed, at any rate, until An 

EpiscorAL Titles (4^* S. xii. passim ; b^ S. i 
92, 310,)^Mr. Tew and his new ally are f^rtniftljl 
not at one on this subject. Mr. Tew acl^ r 
the power of the Church t-o do many thii 
independent of Sta^te authority or intertc 
and declares that to deny this *' would l)e 
ing up the rankest P^i 
Street's Erastianism i 

asserts that to say the iJiiHiin <iin «-tMiM i n^n 
which the civil power may or may not enforce i 

a U. Ana, IS, 74.] 



■ in t 


rlmt juridical absurditjf an impt- 
He then proceeds to ask^ 
uh ^" and, with regard to the 
were his own question by 
on that it is "entirely a 
; and, with r^jard to the 
by the ahnost equally 
llartliog declai'utiim tbiit it ifi '^only a yoluntary 
4lgifiisaition and private corporation accordlngf to 
tlte \aw by whose pennies ion it exists/' as though 
in the dap of the penal statutes, when the law did 
nol pennit it to exist, it were not a Church at 
Jit It is really quite usc4ei5s to argue with one 
iffco seems to think that churches only exist as 
portion H of the State, or by legal permission. To 
argue such questions^— which, of course, lie at the 
loot of the Church t* power to grant titles,— would 
leo<! tr. Jf^tMissiona which are very properly for- 
bh; pages of "N. & Q." 

^i ippeaiB to me to concede the whole 

irm when he acknowledges, " I do not, there- 
deny to the Church the power of conferring 
titles as'Lortl/ &c." The poiPtr, then, is 
flmied ; and Mn. Tew only denies that there 
AM ever been an authoritative exercise of such 
power. My answer is, tliat the custom of cen- 
taiieA 13 liuffieient proof of the exercise of that 
power. There has never been a period when 
titles of honour have not been given to biflhopt*, 
Skom the days of which Binf^ham wiite^ (Book II., 
c&ap ' ' '^r. the present time : — 

** jicaki in the uiual phrase and style of 

ilK>- irnep, when be calls bishops princts 0/ tA« 

J»*o/ it wiu another u?iia> title that wa9 givfn 

tben irs from Optatus, and several paMaget in 

fli JcTom»», HHOt to diftinKiilih them from aecnlar priiices, 
mnlly stylee them prinjcipe* EctUna^ priuca of ih4 

Mr. Tew, however, requires " the production of 
ttbsoUite ainon of the Church assembled in 
council*" I cannot produce such a c4inon, 
fftn ^fn. Tew produce im ubjsolute law by 
een's right to the title of *^ Majesty" 
wiL> Clearly the pGwar lies in the State 

of graatin^ — possibly it may lie in the sovereign 
of Msumin^ — such title, just as the p(m'€r lies in 
' ■ ' f trraji ting titles to bishops. But the 
act by which the title oi '* Majesty " 
wa or even assumed, by the sovereigns 

^ 1 entirely wanting. The various and 

cop' ^ vmenta made by writers on the 

•Bk iire clear prooft* that no valid 

•qlL — -»n lii^ ■4r^^MJ1ed; and eonse- 

qasiiti^. . custom must be 

Meepbtfl \^ ^ L- exercise of that 


JIf lh«fl, the ^ihicen h,i- a right to the title of 
^\tjiW' V she has, notwith- 

lini. : authoritative law or 

iitks the bishops equally have 
. .idfiM, oQtwilbataadiiig a similar 

^haci eon: 

absence of an absolute canon of the Church aa* 
scmbled in genernl council. 

I should much like to achieve Mb. Tbw's oon- 
yersion ; but he is not likely to hold his present 
views without reasons which, to his own mittd, 
appear unassailable, though he has now conoeded 
much ; and whilst I fully appreciate the pleasure 
of an argument with him, 1 fear that if the dis- 
cussion were to l>e carried on until one of ua 
were convinced by the other, the readers of ** N. 
& y." would become very tired of the duel. 

H,P. D. 

Surely Mk. Tew is uoreasonable when he says 
that nothing will satisfy him but ** the production 
of an absolute canon of the Chui*ch assembled in 
general council." Unreasonable, I say. becftuse 
there is so much of " mofl pro lege " in the Church, 
that if everything were denied unless decreed by 
a gene ml council, we should be shorn of half our 
wonihip and much of our faith, t.g,^ has the Atha- 
nasian Oeed ever received the sanction of an 
absolute canon of a general council ? The title 
" Lord," I suppose, rests on authority very similur 
to that which gives ** Countess '* to tlie wife of an 
Earl, tuid ■ * Lord " or " Lady '^ \o the younger chil- 
dren of Dukes and Marquises. It is worthy of 
note thiit when the bishops of the Scottish Epis- 
copal Church addressed the Duke and Duches« of 
Edinburgh on the occasion of their murring^, the 
official reply, addressed to " The Right Rev. the 
Bishop of Moray, Ross, and Caithness,'^ of the Prin* 
cess, commenced **My Lord."* Surely this is an 
official recognition of the right of a bishop to that 
title, E. L. Blekki>'sopp. 

[This discussion is now closed.] 

"Reoinald Trbvor'' (4**» a TiiL; 5"» S. L 
ptiMim ; ii. 19.)— -I suppose I must now consider 
myself convinced that " AnwyP is not a pseudonym, 
but a real name ; and therefore I should now like 
to know who was the author of the above work, 
the bearer of that name, where and when he lived, 
and when he died. If your correspondents will 
kindly supply this, and any other information, the 
matter will be beyond any further doubt. Not* 
withstanding the astonishment that is expressed 
at my considering ** Anwyl '* might be a pBcudonym, 
I do not see there is any matter for surprise. Is it 
quite possible for the most ordinary proper tiame 
to be a pseudonjTu ? Probably Mr. W. J. BERy- 
HARD Smith, who e^ys, on p. 19, that be is "as- 
tonished that any doubt should exist as to this 
being a proper name/- would be surprised to bear 
that " Smith " itself is often a pseudonym, as, for 
example, when it is adopted by Jeremy Bentham- 

Olphar Hamst, 

Kew Bamet, H«rt«. 

Mr«. CJowdex Clarke^s **SH*L^%t^AU^ Ci<s»- 



II.AtJO-15,*J4. 1 

and Mr. Bouc^ffl^' MvinBlelrf but in no de- 
tracting spirit, pointed out importttOt omissions 
firom Mrs. Cowtien Clarke's SJmhipMrc Concord- 
ance of auxiliary words, siieli as **havin|ij*^ »nd 
" tbu«/^ when used Bubstantively. With tbe like 
feeling, I copy fiom my note-book the following 
omissbns :■ — 

1. "If/' JU You Lihi It, Act r. sc. 4, L 106 :— 

" Your if ts the only peacemaker/' 

And agftin in Richard TIL, Act iii. ftc. 4, 1. 77: — 

" T*Ik»t thou to me of ifa i " 

2. "ShjiU,"' Coriolanus, Act iii. se. 1, L 88:— 

" Mark you 
Uie absolute shulL" 

3. "Bat yet," Antony and (JleopCLtra, Act ii. 
Bc. 5, 1, 52 :— 

" But yet ifi us ft jailor to bring forth 
Some monstrous mulefactor." 

4. ** Why -■ and ** wherefore," Vomtdy of Errort, 
Act ii. sc, 2, 1. 45 : — 

*' Every why hatb a wherefore. " 

5. *JNay;' "ji woman's nay,'* lUchard III., 
Act iii. sc. 7, 1. 51 : — 

** PJay tbe mttitVa part, atill anjwer nay, &nd t«ke it." 
Et seq. I hefirtiJy second Mr. Rclk's suggestion 
that the nuuxlter of the line, or, aa I would add. 
even the pige or coUunn, of a recognized edition of 
Sh4d'S]^earc woidd make Mrs. Clarke's Conmr- 
daiict a still more *' fiiithful ^uide." 

Charles Ed. Rawlins. 

Boekmount, EainhilL 

I omitted to number the line of the second 
example of the word ftarinff : — 

** Your age», of what having" kc. 
Tbe line is 875« 

M re^ardB the nimihering of lines beinj^ 
omitted m Mrs. Cowden Clarke's Voncordmia:^ 
the lady writet* to me, and say a i— 

" I think you will ceafle to feel any regret when I tell 
you \t was an omiision advifedly miwle. No two editions 
of the playi can po^mbly have the lines numl^ered alikcr 
and, ft* a proof of this, two editioBfl, published by the 
tame bouie, and gupermtended by the name editors, who 
advocate tbe lyitem, have nut their linea numbered alike. 
Now, the Concordnnct, heing intended for nd^ptjition to 
all editions of Bhakspeare's Playa, jjroperly (iivc« no 
numbering of lines. We ourselves, having Auperintonded 
Tarioua oditiona of Shakspeare, have ample eitperience of 
how worse than lucleii for reference ia numbering the 
Hnea in hia PUyi." 

Fredk. Rule. 

«Wmoa» (5»»* 8. L 261, 474.)— If **wig8'^ be 
extinct in Bnrbani and Nortbumberland, I wot of 
a shop at Grantham, in Lincolnshire, where, unlees 
I greatly mistuke, toothsome cates under that title 
are still to be had. If you ask for a tea-cake you 
will be served with the ordinary disc of currant 
bread, which, save in the presence of ** N, & Q./' 
I should say is current everywhere ; but express a 
wish ioT a wicf, and you will get a confection of 

dou^b and seeds, not round, but elongated, after 
tbe fashion of a tea-c^ke when it sees its face 

** looking wofully long in a spoim/* 
But wigs are not necesstirily restricted to carrawa 
attractions. Five and twenty ye^rs ago all Grani 
bam juveniles knew " Mrs. B— - — , the wig woman^ 
who frold tbe most delicious pennyworths of ind 
geation I can now c^dl to mind ; and these we 
what we should in these days call plum bu 
I remember lier being excessively indignant witi 
a servant of our family who callt-d her, as I belie 
everybody else diil, " tbe wig-woman.^' 

St. SwiTHis. 

This word is not so extinct as Mr. Blekkixbob 
supposes. In Hants, a snudl oval cake, with bonflj 
in the middle, ifi called a wigg. On St. Audre« 
Day, at Leighton Buzzard, in Bcdforrlsbire, an 
buns (something like Good Friday buns) 
yearly made, and confectioners go round 
orders, some days beforehand, for Tandry Wigs, i 
St. Andrew's buns. Vnit derivafur '* wig " witi 
this meaning i T. W. R, 

This name is still giren to tbe plain halffien 
buns sold by tbe pastrycooks in Bristol. 1 Imt 
asked for them by that name, and been i^uppiio 
with them, as long as I can remember, but 1 
not recollect to have ever seen tbe woitl gpelt. 

DftiTRY House (5«^ 8. ii. 48, 750 — 1 
House is mentioned by Stow (see Stow*s Sum 
by W. J. Thorns, p. 113), and so called of T 
I'hewc DrevrrU, " a worshipful owner thi - ' 
was of old time tbe town house of tli f | 

Ramsey. J. T. Smith has left a \aew ii 
remained of tbe old bouse in 1796. I do nd 
think there is any print of it at so early a date I 
( 'harles IL There is no evidence of it ever barit>|| 
belonged to Rupert. Cunningham suys only { 
he lived there. I should hnve thrjugbt that 
Committee for Sale of Senueatrated Lands wouli 
have sat rather at Dnvry House, Dmry Lane. It 
jippears to have been a grand house, and ia men- 
tioned by Btrypo as the aeat of Lord Cmven. The 
Olvmpic Theatre occupies tbe site. 

C. A. Wabp. 


A view of this bouse^ taken in 179tl 
mention of tbe occupants, will be found ir 
Londirdanat London, 18i29, vol. iv. p. 3ui. 

W. E. B. 

"Put to buck" (5t»» S. i. 228, 293 ; li. TC.)— I 
have many times heard the word bucking used to 
Oxfordshire by old men. The expression '* I have 
had a good hychu(f" meAning a ^od t»<H^£<njf. 
"Put to buck " I have never heard in Oxfordshire 
in the sense in which £. V. osea it^ 

G. J. Dkw. 

Lower Heyford, 0*on. 





PROKtnraATioK of *' Acites " (5*^ S. ii. 68.)^ — 

I The ]---■' '- -; of ar^cj? as a dissyllable seems 

]io 1 led to the cloae of the century. 

' In \«rMu- r i_.j„.jr...ut Eiigluh Hdwlar, Loud., 1087^ 
we are told tlwt — 

♦ Ch m wordj purely Engliah hive a iic^uUar lound 
kiritK them both before and after vowelis, ikfon* a vowell 
, lo chaoc«, cheap, chino, choke, churl : nfter a vuweU in 

aeli, reach, aioh, roch, fach : But in wordu uf a Hebrew 

or Qrttk derivation ch flooDda like l\* Slc. 

H C* Elliot Beowml 

^L^b^£bisDiit«rJ9 Shepherd's CahridaTf the following 
HHBMBURience " August '' : — 
^■^^BffSi, Perigwt, what shall be the game^ 

Whertfore with mine thou dare thy rauBtc match ? 

Or be thy bagpipei run far out of frame } 

Or haih the cranip thy joinU l^numb'd with ache ?'* 

W, pEi«CtJBLLr, 




Ix the August number of Scrihuers ^fonthllt 

fWnnie Si Co.). Miss Kate Field tellH u curious 

jiectingthe above-named MS. The first 

rsis story isi that by a favourable review in 

tW TiiM^ the sale of the book was greatly in- 

CfOftied* and its success established ; '* for even 

svoins," saya Miss Field, " can be made or marred 

(tjr the pointed criticism of clever quills.'' It in 

atuted that Dickena presented to the writer 

"S. of the book w hich the letter is supposed to 

** maile" by his ** clever quill" in ** ^nitefiil uc- 

ledgment of tkit service. The writer of the 

question does not seem to have appre- 

I AIS. HA highly tis he did the merits of 

_ in it. Mr. Dallas, the critic, who is said 

to l>4vc"received this valuable honorarium for the 

aemces rendered to the author, p^irted from the 

llCttflure. *^ And now, with one of those stnmge 

tunu of Fortune's wheel, whereby everything^ 

or h&tefj get.8 upside down, this manuscript 

the Atlantic, to find a welcome home in 

th« library of Mr. Child." This gentleman, weU 

known and much esteemed in this country, resides 

in FbikdeJphm, and is proprietor of the The Fhit- 

adtinhia Ledger. Miss Field thuH describes 

PictcnKS way of employing hia pen, ink, and 

*' A!mo4t always writing on thick blue note-paper and 
irtth blue tuk, Lickeiu baa been faithful to hii rule in 
tjiti manutcript. By unfolding his note paper be has 
fonf«xt«d ii Into large-sized letter-paper, and by pasting 
Ibk «3ti alitl Urger-6ixed und thicker wLite paper, he has 
Siaula the two Tolume« as dui-able m poiaible. Townrdi 
tb« eod of Volume Firtt there i» one hit of iuanui><:rt;jt 
io black mk. All the reit U in blue ink, bat not always 
«f i&f bcd^ and the fineneta and cloeeneM of the writing 


are enough to render the most amiable of experienced 
printers tem}>ortirily insane. There ia no lorer of Dickens 
fio urdent as to willingly read a page through, nor would 
the most mercetiary peruse both volumca for lew than 
their weight in gold. Added to a microscopic chiro- 
graphy is erasure after erasure, such aa, 1 am told^ can* 
not be found io his earlier manuscripts, marking either 
greater care or less fluency of thought. Dcacriptiona 
undergo most correction, and so deftly does Dickona 
cancel himself, that I defy the greatest expert to de- 
cipher what the author doeii not wish to hayo read. . . . 
The eraaurea at the beginning of * Podsnappery * ar« 
absolutely appalling. The entire first page looks u 
though tt hnd been cut into m many pieces as there are 
linea^ and then been carefully darucd.*' 

Miss Field gives several examples of how 
Dickens worked through his story and its diffi- 
culties to the end ; and she summarizes the ex- 
amples thus : — 

'* Most interesting of all are the nine notes preceding 
the novel in each volume. Dickens takei the world into 
his confidence^ opening the door of ht^ workshop; and ii 
curious, well-regulated shop it ii. After thinking out 
hia ])lot and charActcrB, Dickena puts down on the right' 
hand side of his page the cliapters with dramattj pertonet,^ 
on the left he tells himself what he ihall dO| or asks him* 
eclf questions about the doing, which he answers affirma^ 
tivcly or negatively, either at the time or after." 

These matters are of interest to us alL But 
nuich interest also attaches itself to the story of 
the original manuscript. We should much like to 
know if any other "original'* exists. In these 
days, when original letters are supplied according 
to demand of the market, a somewhat fuller story 
as to Mr. Child's manuscript (which we do not 
mean to dispnrage) would be very tieceptable. 

The A rdtitedtirt of the CiJtUrciant. By Edmund Sharpe, 

M.A, F.R.I.B.A. iSpon.) 
In a ouarto form, beautifully illustrated, and printed iit 
ft bold, clear type, Mr. Sharpe discusaes and explains the 
principles which guided tbeCibterciaiisin planning their 
con?entunI hulldingd and in dcHigning their churches. 
This work is tho substance of a lecture which Mr. 
miarpe delivered, four >ear» ago, at the Royul luEtituto 
of Britifth Architects* The views which he then laid 
open to his professlooal brethren he now ofiTers to tho 
general public, who, by the aid of the illustratione, will 
thoroughly comprehend the text, and, perhaps for the 
first time, will bare a clear idea of the grandeur of eomo 
of the material works of the once famous Cistercian 
Order Shortly before the Refarmation the number of 
dependencies possessed by the Abbot of Citeaux it Stated 
to have been 3;200! 

Hiiiory of ihi Christiafi CAurcH, fr&m (he Apottolic Affe 
io the Htfonmaiioiif a.i», 64—1517. By J. C. Robertaon, 
MA., Canon of Canterbury. Vrd. IV. (Murray,) 
Tnrs new and revised edition of Canon Robertson's work 
is now half'Way towards completion. The period covered 
in the prescDt book is from the death of Charlemagne, 
^14, to the death of Ametm, llOi*. Anselra's method of 
proving the existence of God by a single argument (the 
ohJ€ct of his Faith ui Search of UnderttaHdinq) is shown 
ill the prelate's words ; — " Uod is that than which 
nothing greater can bo conceived - and he who welt 
understanda this will understand that the Dirine Being 
exists in euch a manner that His nA^-^^Vi^itnA^ ^;axnv:^ 



even be conceived." Gannilo, a freely inquiring monk 
of the time, objected to th\&. '* thiii tlic conception of & 
thing does not imply iU estisteaee/' Ctnoti Koberisoa 
does not touchy or does not more tlinn touch, on the 
knowled^ Anflelm u said to haye had of the CfttMtrophe 
by which Rufus was got rid of. 

Teb MtruiTHiAH BocrETY. — This Siriaa Botanic Ano- 
elation held thetr fourteenth annual aasembly on the 
29th of July olt,» at Ormercp, a imaH town between 
Martigny and the Great St. Bernard. Dr. Faucormet» 
of Nyon, M.D.. the President, presided at the business 
meeting, and was the chairman at the dinner. Numerous 
intereeting papers were read. About a hundred members 
trcre present ; fifty were at the dinner. The death of 
Dr. Hoaenbetli vtos m«^ntioned, and a deep regret waa 
expressed. The Asaocbtiun is in a healthy conditionj 
though it has sustained Bome heavy lossoa by deathii. 
Hany new members were admitted, and one lionorary 
and corresponding mcmbfT— Mr. William Gomersall, of 
Oitarbum, in Craven, The third part of the Traju- 
stations was deliyered to the members, and the fourth 
was said to be in preparation. It was resolved that a 
photograph of Alurith, the *■ Limunus of the Alps/' 
should bo taken from the oil painting at 8t, Bcrn4ird, 
for the use of the members and the public in general. 
One of Dr, Husenbeth^s last acts wa« a transmission to 
Bi. Bernard of some ycry interesting letters on geology 
and botany that Murith addi'essed i\j him. It Is much to 
be regretted that they were not given to the Britii^h 
Museum. I can apeak on the yalue of these documents^ 
as they were sent to me to hand over, and, being open^ I 
perused tliem. One was a rery ehiborate aoc[>unt of the 
bunting of the Dranse glacier in 1818. Murith visited 
every part of the devas^ted scene, and de^ecribed it most 
iMCurately (ind ecieutifically to his friend the **young 
priest/' as he then called Dr. Huscnbeth. I will 
endeavour to bare the above important letters given 
to the world. A brief biogmphy of Murith has been 
inserted iu '* N. & Q./' rhU General Indtac. 

J. n. Di3tON, LL.D. 

The Drtklofmekt of the Phes?, 1S24-1871— Will 
, jou permit mo to add to the list of papers pubtiahed it* 
«N. & g.;' 6'^ 8. ii. 118, the folio wtn^^ f They are not 
printed in the Pott-OjHce JJinctory for the year 1S21» 
hence the omieion. 'The papers now given are still 
fiourishingt and were in existence, or established^ in the 
year mentioned i— 

North Devon Journal. Bolton Chronicle. 

Hampshire Advertiser. Belfast Northern Whig. 

Fermanagh Mnil. Eoscommon Gazette, 

Wat«rford JttaiL Wexford Independent 

JOHir FftAKClS. 



FftrtiCTilaiit of Prtov. *«,» of everj- book to Lt Mnt dii««t to 
th« iNcrvon by whom ik is rmulred, wboie n«ine tud addteM arc 
glreti for tluii i^iirpow i— 
GriLiiM's lixflLAttiiiT, Edit. icrs. An Unftttteot co^t, ponUiniut 

th« PurtrftiM of Lord BeaaarM of Worl4t>f«» and Sir WUU&m de U 


Boeaai, Th!oka». The Catholic ]>ocirla« of tfao Ciiiu«b of Satlaad. 
(FarlDN-aoo.) *^ 

iS In 


TsB I^iTtaufT Ci.tAaxD. «r & Vindioattoo of Caplsin Jeba Smith. 

Wanted bj Bdvara P«iwci, Boticsford Maaar« Briff . 

PA«ai«io}t*B PandlJtu TffRwtrii, or Uarden of PUuoat WUwtn. 
I^ondoo, ISSi-M, 

LtsDL»Tli Gocra aad %Hiii« of Ocehidac>coiu Plann. 

Wanted by P. W. BmrUdgt^ r, Boutbamptvo HtvtU St»ad. WX\ 


fioti€t!i to CorrfipanHfttU. 

Oira CowuMPOMBWiTB vm'li, T/v tnt^i, ernwe our 
gaiinff to thtm, hoik for their saJta as wdl ai owr otea-^ 

Thai ihty tkouJd writt tU^ir'u aii' diiliuctti/-^xtid 
one aide of the paper only — - naiaeff 

and words and phrases o/ ^av It 

ritjuind, Wt cannot uacferux^c (» f">-.if dim; wvi^t ot Cw- 
t^potideni dott not think ^forlh the tftfubU of «rri(if^ 

Mb. Chr. Cookr writes: — "The useful 1 
papers, 3824, published in "N. & Q*," No. 
12U, rcmindfl me that an accurate and earcfi^ 
lag^ued iiult-x of all newspapers is required m Um^ 
Museum Library, showintf distinctly wlmt n<«iir 
are now therein^ Thv* catalogues now i 
to new:q»apers, incomplete and \m<]\v 
collection of these periudioals is n/ ' 

CoF. Al.— The father of 8oj 
Vigier), the opera-sii^er, to whoix. ... 
have sent the Ootden Rose, was n Pr 
named Cruwel, of Bielefeld, in I'ru 
husband, Baron Vigier, is grandson ot the 31. 
who made a fortune by establishitig Uiose fnmoui 
the ** Bains Vigier," on the Seine. 

Mjllveen : — 

** The childhood shows the 

As mornini; ihows the day." 

Milton, Par. R^., iv,, lines 220-1* 

WaTBE-MABKs {5*'' S. i. 88 J ii. 94.)— I thank 
Gastoh »e BimnEVAL for his kind reply, and 
know the price and publisher's name of 
Prineipia Typogi-apkim. Gborqx E. Jm 

SouTBWAiix.— You will find that and a seoond eniL, 
on.Hobeon, the Cambridge carrier^ in Wit lUitmwa, W, 
p. 201, Camden Hotten's reprint. 

W, GiiiMAMit.— For the personal v:-'- 
deaih, and " prophecies *" or Mother 
General Index of our last seriee. Wu g 

lines quoted^ see " N. & Q.," 4^' 8. x, 450 , xL ;l;w. 

pRDfCK. — Copies of the work are to be found at the 
dealers in old books; any publisher of clasdcat workt 
would answer the query fully. 

J. H. H. — It pofers to the old custom at this time •( 
the year of making a pilgrimage to the grotto of ^ 
James of Com|>oatella. 

P. S.— Laviuia Fenton, Duoheti of Bolton, the utigiaal 
'* Polly Penchem/' lies in Greenwich Churchyanl, 

B, on T.— To **drinL' tobacco *' was the earlicfi foria 
of expressing the act of smoking. 

A. 11.— The List is of |iapers existing in 1524, not of 
papers which began to exiit in that year. 

F. J. V.—" Mars his sword," see p. 2, and *• Had hr." 
p. 34, of present volume. 

HKRMESfTR CUR— Letter forwarded. 

E, H,— Picton was killed at WaterloOi June IS, 1$LL 

W. T.-^Unavoidably deferred till next Wfek, 

Editorial Communications should be addressed to ** The 
Editor " — Advertisements and Business Letter? to «* The 
Publisher "—at the Office, 20, Wellington Street, J^trand, 
Ixindon, W.C. 

We heg leave to itate that we dedine to netuni c»ib. 
munications which, far tiny reason, we do not print ; ioA 
to this rule wo c: J exception, ~ 

To all comma 1 iild be aflix^ the i 

address of the s«l^ jcessarily for puhlioa^O&i t 

aa a guarantee of good faith. 




aAtmtpAT, A UGusT 2s, i3r4. 

INTENTS. — N* 34, 

tttca br Mn. OUvIa Serrai : '*The Book.** 
mii. S7ov IV., 143—1110 Tttto of B«voir0iid 
tMfoi* lb* Hon/" ix*_-ivr,Lii..i rv.. ......_ 

of Vtotntba—A ' 

llffiiffcl Victory =^ _.._;. L.,>-i i 

I Um CUn Cb&tteQ— blh«ki|MAre, Uinuc«;r, 

tham Clninh JSolb^Oennaa BmicnnU In 

alutj— An AnwxicAn lEmaj* oi^ £iilc«7« oa 
htoyiMt Drmyton— P&lbGT Lotils leComte 
tOit-Cft«lto»l WolMr and LvJi_i?i.k.. 
lor"* ** Pi«<«ali " : Stmiuc'tf ' 
»d Abbe/« Yorksblra-WUlia 
t" — KomeiieliittT" ' v..i , ;, ,^ ,.^^ 
mnb*— Sir Of r»r : iduacnddeu 

UloI Brettoa >1 j—" Seeing 

i|* — "Shot" — ' V- ., .4....ay ju Old ju 
Savry Day "— Placiflo, the Cnb«ii Po«t — 
*P.. 18i»— Puiy FamUy» 140 — "Mort» 
kbor WimUd—*' nrimp*, " 150. 
feting ** for Cui!&o RaMei, lAO — Charles 
i ^ OohUBbiis-'Oitemui, 153 ^ Milton's 
1i Priioin, 163— MedAl of WillUto I.— 
tknj— A VjiUomhroiUn Nun—'* Llwbee'i 
* AuM Wif # ' h«ko " — Whi*ky — Bonnie 
Knftve " — *• FaTonr" — '* Dtituolofiy " — 
-♦* Sinoiil« '*— HeraldJc — Miuhb— " Ooesicji 
Society of AtU' HemoriJil Tabtctft^iUpiy 
Ftuotly, 166— "Academic Erron^-^HAytlm 
id wwriaK out the acabbard "--SkftUnK 
^ftltotisA Wftutoo— •* La ProvinrJAlM *'— 
S B«Uvys "DictloiiMy-— •" y--- '-•■■ -■ 
X, lfi9--BlD9ll«h SoniiiiMis— 
id*— Prtvj* Council Judgment 
catat In tli« Brlttih Miucuiu- v, u..i .."U 
m — Woidivnrth and Boeg^ 167 — FurOe 
^d BanudtAitoB — Ityroa: Wyciierky* dx;.. 



mt correspondent, Calcuttknsis, 

jinion ("N, & Q;* 3^*^ S. >lL 11) 

« list of the publications of Olivia 

miuld be a desideritum," Thia 

ftliare«l by every one w]io liax paid 

Lory of Mi's. HeiTc;?!, or of 

I of which she wtm the 

tuiii I hAve, during the lost few 

no oppnrtnnitj of securiii^ copies 

Is for exposing 

ions m I have 

:l with, 

*ecent ttajuiiiitions of ihiw character 

e that he h:id i*rinterl it in thf. 

It Will occupy m your , 
'*vusicd. It is writteii ou 

both .-ides of u half-sheet of quarto letter-paper, 
und is iis foUtJWS : — 

** Work* rrntkh " '' T .:««# OUvt bt/are $h^ 
L FUjrhts of Ful.,, .. . iuine of Poems, including 

Til? Ciistle of Avola ^nn Opera). 
ir. St. .rnltHii. 180*1 

III. TTii " " " ^% 2 volumes. 

IV. A igb, ISIO, 

V. Oil ^0 her Danfbter. 

\1. E^kj OH tU Tpiuity, IblS, 

"TnE Book." 
Vn. An Eftsaj in Favour of the Duke of York. 
VI IL The Lifeof Juuiiu. 
IX- The Memoirs of the lute Earl of Warwick. 
X* Mary Ann Lnia. 

*' M¥2%€h wid by Mr, KtUy ol hit Saio<m, Pail MaU, 

1. 0«d 6&r9 ilio Prince* 

2. The Beggar Boy. 

3. Behold in all the pomp of Day. 

4. Wcrter'e (!) Lost Sen, dcdiCfttcd to the Duke of 


5. Loved Niglit. 

*i. Sweet Lore, tho Moon appe*n. 
7. Adieu, Adieu, ye hnuutA^ Adlea. 
And othera. 

" yew rmdjf (& pMith toAtii rtmnd* 
Three volume i of a Hiitory of England, in ferpo (■ full 

Three Tolumei of Memoirs of Olive, Prinoeiis of Cum- 

Three volumes of ReUpous and 31aral Poemi, 
Two volumes of Mranoars of tbo Bake of Keot 
A Book of Pnlmt for every d»y in the week. 
A volume of Corroepondc&ce Dctween the lfti9 and pre* 

sent Ministers as to our Birthright. 
A volume of State Recollections.'' 

In transcribing the title of the paper Mr. Cble- 
man made iin omission, of some importance, of the 
words *' before she knew her birth." Kow, though 
the list is not d.ited, it could not have been written 
before 1821, the yecir in which Mrs. Scrrea aasume<I 
the title of Princess Olive,— a fact of which she 
beciime aware, avconling to her statement, in May^ 
1815^ — yet tliJHliKt not only contains a book which 
she dtttea in 181w (I think erroneously), but one — 
the iVfc77M>ir5 of Lord ly'arunck — which was not 
published till 181 J) ! Like almost everything 
written by her^ the fict« which the paper in 
intended to establish contradict each other. 

As the works of this extraordinary womiin are 
hy no means common, I venture to add dome brief 
notea on such of tliem as I have hud an opportunity 

>/ Fanev h a handsomely printed 

Mni. J. T. Serre«." I 

..-.. -;,.-, ,.jU><e the Vntji'tv nf Jimii.'H 

by the Lady on her sact- i 

lihy. Tlie vubimti Is ' i^e 



(6*8. It Atc, 22, Tl-^ 

foyal descent. The dedication is oeuclied in very 
t iiiimble and fulsome terras, which contract strongly 
I with the BUit<?ment made by her in 1822, " that 
I Bhe was a lady, intimate from infancy with the late 
■ Earl of Warwick." See her account in the Gentk- 
n*tMagasin€ for July, 1822, of his apparition 

appeaiiDg to her, her daughter (Mrs. R}^es)^ and 

the Kev, Mr. Grove. 

2. SL Julian, a Series of Letters by Mre, J. T. 
Serres, was al&o published by Ridgway in the same 
year, 1805, 

3. Memoirs of a FrincsUf or Firiii Lo^: an 
HiBtorical Romruice. In 2 vols. By Olivia W. 

S , Author of The Booh (Maynard, 1812.) 

The heroine of this stor^^ h the unfortunate Caro- 
line, Princess of Wales, afterwards Queen Caroline ; 
and the story it&elf is a fine specimen of the pure 
Minerva Press style, as the following extract will 
show. Speaking of England, a Princess writes as 
follows : — 

" How bleflsed i« thftt land of Uberty and repoee where 
no tanffVrinury tide* o/h'fe*t sacred piialiiy deioiaU iis 

On the title-page the writer describes herself as 
with that affectation of 

i tiUe-pag 
W, §^ 


mystezy which is so charactenstic of her ; while 
the Preface is signed "0, W. Serres" in her own 
himd writing* 

4 I have not been able to see a copy of the 
Ldter to Lord Va^threngh, published in 1810. 

5. OHvia-s Ldter of Adrice to Her Baughter^ 
written by Mrs. Wilmot Serrei^ Landscape Painter 
to His Eoipnl Highness tli£ Prinr.^ of WalUy Author 
of " FUghU of Fancy;' ''SL Julian^' &c., published 
by Ebers in 180a It is addressed, not to her 
daughters, but only to Lavinia, the late Mrs. 
Ryres,— Mrs. Serres ignoring iit this early period 
the existence of her younger daughter Britannia 
(Mrs, Brock) m persistently as Mrs. Rjrves after- 
wards did in her Appeal to Rmjalty and her pro- 
ceeding in the Courts of Law.' Mrs. Brock was 
living in 1866, nor have I seen any notice of her 

6. Esmy on the Trtiiitit^ I have never seen 
this volume, which, although dated by Mrs. Serres 
1818, is probably identical with that described in 
the Omtkma7i*s Magazine (July, 1835, p. 93), iia 
having been published in 1814, under the title of 
" ♦S'i, A ihantisi'us'ii Crixd M^hxnidfor the A dvantage 
of Youth, By Olivia Wilmot Serres, Niece of 
I)r. Wilmot^' The writer of the notice in the 
Genikinan's Magazine adds : " It will be observed 
she had already begun to traffic in assumed names, 
for that of Wilmot was not given her in baptism." 

7. Of the Essay in Faiwir of the Ihike of York 
I am unable to say anything, not having as yet 
been able to meet with a copy. 

8. which by a pardonable mis- reading of Mrs, 
Serres's ill- written list, Mr, Coleman printed as The 

I^/e o/ SSnurs^ is, no doubt, The Life of the 

Author of the Ltttern ofJuniuif^ the Rev. Jan 
Wilmot, D,D., &c., hy ki4 NiiOA, Olima W% 
Serres, published by Williams in 1813, — a 
fatal to the claims which the aatboresa cah 
quently put forward, oontaining, as it does, 
menta which directly contradict the story of her 
royal birth, and place her case in this dilemma^ ; if 
her first statement is true, her second is f " 
her first statement is false, her second is an 
of credit, Mrs. Serres makes no mention i 
second book on Junius, Junius Sir Ph 
FranciM daiied^ 8vo., 1817, — a work of equal irf^ 
portance in demolishing her pretensions. 

I have in my possession a copy of the Lift of 
Wilmot^ with Mrs, Serres's corrections, nufcde for s 
new edition. 

9. The poper title of this volume is LtUert of 
the. late Might Hon. Earl of Brooke and Warwiek 
to Mr$. Wilmot Serres^ HlustraUd with (he Pormt 
and Memoirs of His Lordship, &c., Svo* { Birktit 
& ScottX 1819, Taken for what it professeil 
this book is, probably, as dull and twada ^ 
volume as any man could be condemned to^ 
through ; but looked at with reference to 
history of Mrs. Serres, and the exti5 
events with which her name will ever be i 
it contains many points of great interest i 
portance, as I may, at some more oonvenie 
opportimity, endeavour to demonstrate. 
"^VArwick is B/iid to have told Mrs. Sen 
secret of her birth in 1815, yet here is hS 
published in 1811*, inserted in a list of those whid 
she describes i\s having been written befa 
hneiv her birth ! In 1816 there ap|)eared _ 
work coined in the same mint, ot forged in tk 
stithy, professing to be (as it is entitled) Narmtii 
of the peculiar Case of the Earl from Hi4 '^ 
ship's oiim Manuscript This was alto publii 
by WOlianis. 

10. The "Mary Ann Letts'* of the list, si 
printecl in the GmtUfnaWs Magminey is " Mmrii 
Anme LaiSy the C&urte2an; or^ Certain lUust 
tio7i^. A Rotiumce. By the Author of Tbk B00K.J 
Small 8vo. Rodwell, 1812. But tbrr ' ' " 
page the writer modestly describe- 
the author of The Booh, yet the satiii . 
" to two moat injured illustrious characti 
subscribed, like the Prefrtce to the Mtvwir 
Princess, with the autograph of O, W. 
As the reader will probably anticipate 
date, &c., the parties so distinguished are ih 
of York and Mrs. Mary Anne Clark, wh 
actions, and feelings Mr«. Serres probably 
took to describe on the principle that 

'* 8he best can paint them who shaU feel ihtim 

Those who remember the character «! 
Mrs. Serres^s lat^r productions will be : 
reading the following esttrwrt from this litti^ 
trumpery book :— 


fD QUE] 



* lUeetpl to 1/uiJU a t»#ry 9iituahU P^ubikaiian, 

'* Takt of iRVfutton, the utmost degree of fabtkood. 

«iid Hw QXtnttiQ of calumny^ well blend tkese two 
dmifMt ootnpouDcU ia the oil of audBciouioe^,"— 

And so on for a whole page. 

With Mrs. Serrea's muaical oampositiona I do 

not propose to trouble myself. Keither hove I 

^Jljrtning to saj with respect to those works 

libed \>j her lus ** ready to publish when 

Probably among a lorge collection of 

in her handwriting which I possess, there 

[An Bomt! frogmenta of her SiaU RecoUsctionSt 

\€&rrt*poti4en€4 wiih MtnUtcrs, Memoir of the 

*Jhike of Kent, which, I fear^ will scarcely repay one 

for the tronbJe of deciphering. If on examinntion 

'' 1 Mhould find any thing worthy of notice, it shaU be 

^rea to the world. 

And now I come to one entry on the list which 
I have advisedly deferred noticing. I alhide to 
the remarkable unnumbered article, between Nos. 6 
nod 7, which the authoress has marked with in- 
Terted commas, and doubly underlined — **The 
Book/* But ** Thjb Bck:>k " must form the subject 
of another paper. 

In the mean time, can any correspondent refer 
me, either through " N. & Q.'* or directly to roy- 
teU^ to any copy of " Tbe Book " by Mr*. Serrea, 
bearing an earlier date than 1813 ? 

William J. Thoms. 
40, 81 QeoiKe's Sqo&re, Belgrave Boad, aW. 


Come we now to the pkimls of nouos ending in 

o; they are about 1(X>, and may be beat displayed 

nnder 3 groups : 1. Musical terms and terms 

descriptive of the size of a book. All these are 

Italian words, and make their plurals by adding 

- -- -'ffy-Sf bastthf^ solo'Sy Jlauto-8 piano-s^ and 

V-*; canto-i^ Tondo-s^ &c.; with foUo-s^ 

J i.. ., tiCtavO'$, duofhcinw-Sj 24m^-«, and so on. 

As this group is consistent and without exception, 

no (tbii tion can be brought ajroinst it. The other 

are about equal, 30 of one make the 

[ '», and the 29 of the other add -«. 

Ail Douns endij^ in -io, *«>, -vOj and -o, after a 

rowel, make the plural by adding -#, with one ex- 

' c [)tion, vijs., buffalo-rj. 1 bus we have armadillO'it^ 

/' '^vf, und p^rrmiilh-s in -lo ; protfUo-s and inr- 

>-^, rdi6vo-s^ and tcUvo-* in -vo ; 

.<, oqI%o-« or oltVjt, pi«tfuMo'S, 

■nitiii^ftf raiio*^, seraglio-*^ studio-Sy 

>f>-#, ^c, in 'O preceded by a vowel. 

i*> luvy*^ ;ui(i SIX in *f«, uot musical terras or sizes 

of b<>okH, rli... cmto-$^ (froth-g^ juntos, wafunto-s^ 

- '"^ '" -«, and itikttO'i^ with all such proper names, 

'0-*. The list complete contains between 

' wonls. 

I • i ^ ;^'roup consUts of 29 words, which 

iu.xUr ihf: ^.lural in -«. and I have no hesitation in 

K^g that the i should be expunged. In the irst 

place^ we never add -a except to make an extra 
syllable, as ehurck-ei, foz-a, sath-^y and so on.^ 
In the next place, not one of the words haye any 
etymological claim to a plural in -es. 

Let us take them in terminationol order. 1. 
'cho and -co, as e^ko, c(UicOf fruto^ •magniJicOf 
portico, and stucco (all having their plural in -«)• 
Echo is Greek, in which language^it has no plural ; 
in Latin, it is the fourth declension, echo^ ecMiip 
and, of courae, could have no such plural aa sdU>«t; 
in French, the plural is icho», "Now, in the 
name of all the gods at once," Ignorance excepted^ 
what right bos this word to the suffix -es t ** F^aco, 
mogDifico, portico, and stucco/' are Itallim, like the 
musical teniis and the sizes of books ; and there 
is no reason but caprice why they should deviate 
from those words. " Calico " is probablv a cor- 
ruption of Calicut, and ought also to be deprived 
of the €. 

2. In -dO| as &rat?aio, innuer^^ rotunda^ 
iomado^ and iorptdo. Of these, "rotundo" is 
Italian, often wntten rotwtwfci in Eoglish ; and, 
to show our spirit of contradiction, the foreign 
words broivaia and imtuida we make " bravado " 
and " tornado " ; " innuendo *' and ^* torpedo " ar« 
concocted from the Latin verbs innuo and £orp^, 
so that none of these 5 words has a right to a 
plural in «««. 

3. The words in -go are ca/rgo, flamingo^ indigo^ 
mu7igOf so^ro, and virago. Of these, "cam, 
flamingo, indigo," are Italian. ** Mango " is Uie 
Indian -Talmu£c word truingo$; "sago,'' the 
Malay word »aau, in Ftench soj^ou ; and " virago" 
is Latin, the plural being viragincs. So tlrnt none 
of these six words has a plural resembling its 
modem English fonn. 

4. In -nOj the only examples are no-es (peraons 
voting " no % albino-es^ doinino-cs, and vokano^M. 
Of these, ".ilbino^* ia spelt both ways in the 
plural, (dbinoa and albinoes; "domino" and 
** volcano " are Italian ; and as for the plural 
of ** no," if iio» will not do, write fM>*^, as we 
write I*s, ra's, and so on. 

5. In -ro there are 4 words : they are Wo, 
negrOf tifro^ and ztto. **Hero," like '* echo," is 
common to Greek, Latin, and French, in all 
which languages the singular is htro&. Probably 
we borrowed the word from the French, where the 
s is silent ; but there is not a tittle of authority 
for h€ro€s. As for '* negro" and **zero/* they are 
Italian ; and ** tyro," the Latin word, baa iyrotiu 
for its plural. 

We have now gone through every word ending 
in -0 except 6, and can find no reason why the 
30 which miike their plural in u should not join 
the 60 or TO which make their plural in -«. By 
enforcing this uniformity, an enormous difficulty 
of spelling would be removed, nothing would be 

* Those ia >/ tnd -ft changed into -vet at« obiected to 



loM, and every word would be consistent with its 
original form. 

The six remaining words are tBo«e ending in -to. 
Of the 12 words with this termination, 6 go one 
way, and 6 another, W© have already noticed 
the words ccnto-fi^ ffrotto-s, jimto-i, TnemtntO'Sj 
p%7nmi(y'S, and diUito-g; the remaining six are 

jTototo^, tomato-a. Three of thea^* are Spanish ; 
•'toosquito, mulatto, tomato''; two are Italian, 
** motto" and "manifesto"; and the sixth In a 
comiption of the American Indian wonl haiatm. 
In every case, the saffix -«9 is an abomination. In 
even' case, therefore, it w a violation of correct 
spelUng, an " anomaly in English orthography, 
where -et is limited to words cntling in -^, -jshf -ch 
hoTilj and -x (with the single word topa>€S in r) ; 
it introdnces great confusion and difficulty ; has 
not one single excuse, and ought to be abolished. 
To use the words of Lord Lytton, it may be truly 
said " such a system of spelling was never concocted 
but by the Father of FaJseho^" ; and we may ask 
with him, *^ How can a system of education flourish 
that begins by [such] monstrous falaelioods ? ^* 
E. CoDHAM Brewer, 
Lavaaij Chiohnter. 

(To be e(mdudtd in our nezt.} 

The following is ^m the Tiftits of the 13th 

" Sir,— Probablj somo of youraiitiqaarian re»d«ra will 
be able to mform you when the title * Beverend ' began 
to be ii£ed by the clergy ia gen^^ral; but tbc regisien of 
th« parish of T&m worth contida some interesting parti- 
coUrv as to local usage. These roisters date buck from 
the reign of Philip and Mary. IU6. The first title given 
in them to a elergymui it tae old title 'Sir/ with which 
8hak»peare has made uji familiar. In May, 1567f we 
have an entry *Sir Peter Strtngar, curate,' The 
clersy^an who suceeedcd him is called *8ir Rieh&rd 
Walfcer/ but there are other contemporaneous entries, 
•nch aa 'ncerdoV 'olericue/ 'preacher/ and 'verb! 
minlfter/ Theae latter leem to have obtained till, in 
Kiag Jamee*e reign, we have the prefix ^Diastcr/ whicb, 
aa we know, waa applied to the great dirine, Master 
Hooker ; and thU practice Beema by our roisters to have 
been continued through the Commonweal^, though 
'Miniater of the Qoflpell' ii lometimei added. We 
baTe, however, in 1667, the firat nae of the word 'Rev- 
erend,* evidently in thia caae as a iipeoial mark of re- 
tpeet^ not as a formal title. On '11 June, ]657| was 
buried our Beverend Pastor Maater Thoma* Blake, min- 
liter of Tarn worth/ In 1603 we have a clergyman by 
name Samuel CoUina. I had noticed with eoriotitv an 
eraaure before hie name in each of the caaualtiea, bap- 
^nnal or funereal, recorded in our regiater* At last, m 
l7Ql. I waa luckv enough to find an unerased ent^; and 
it appean that the obnoxious word was the title 
'Bevd.* (flo written) prefixed to hia Mr, However, he 
!Sit not to have been able to hold to hii title. One of 
I fihildren» baptifed in 1706, is baptiied at ibo child of 

?lain Samuel CoUim, miuiiter; and when he died, in 
706, he was boned witliout the title * Reverend '—as 
Mr. (ue,, l^hsXtT) Samuel Collins, minister of Tamworth- 

Henceforward the tame addreas fs TtFed trll Kovcsnber, 

1727, when we have the haptisu' 

*ye Bev. Mr. Kobcrt Wilson, - 

and after that date the prefix * Iv .viv..^ never i 

io have been omitted. I am thanktul, for the hei 

my parish, to say that it was not withheld evei 

case which reminds one of the matter ditcoaeedj 

Camborne Conference. It fell to the lot of \ 

predecosaors to bury a Nonconformist The ^ 

the burial is as follows. 1786-37:—* 10 starch, 1 

Kev. Thomas Worthington, a Nonjuror of ^ 

In this he only followed tht: example of an earlier^. _ 

who, when 'Thomaa FlaveU, Presbyterian teacbo i 

Tamworth,' died, allowed him the prdix of Mr» (Uaile 

—a prefix used with great partimonv in those days. 

"BaooKs LAjcBsat. 
•* Tam worth/' 

\^. P., writing to the IVsisi on the 14th iniL, 
iliat the term *' Nonjuror," as applied abvre, did 
not neoesaarily imply a ^Nonconformist. He coi^cctai^i 
that Mr. Worthington was one of the surnvon of the 
Carolinean and Jacobean clergy (the date of hie deaHi 
being 1736-7, and no age given) who had dedincd te 
take the oatbt of allegiaiwe and suprcmaey to Che 
Hanoverian dvnastv. 

Mr. Mafikell, uuthor of Berkymgchtfrch^ Jwrfa TVwtwl ' 
on the 15th writes, that the earhett iii^' ' % ;.v 

man being entitled "Beverend" in 
Barking Register ii ihe following nc lv 

"1732, December 17.— The Rev. Dr, Jolm i^tmt\h. 
Vicar'*; that previous to this date the cle^lcy ar« ^Uri^ 
iiated "Mr ClericuB,'' ** Mn JJoctor,** and, during the 
Puritan period, ** Minister/* 

J. R., of the same date, would correct ant infi 
that might be drawn from Mr* Lamber* h 

titles "Sir*' and "Master" were cki 
wafl not tbc case. The former was tbc 
the name of a U.A.. the latter to that o' 
is notliing more than a translation of '' i 
still ^ven by ihe Uuiverstties to a H, A., us qult be «c«o 
by a (reference to the Tripos Ltsta in the CamJbriigt 
CaUndur, where each column ia headed by the abh(»> 
Tiated form ** !>«.'* 

g. 0. O. (the Rev. Lord B. Q. Oabome) baa aliiM 
written to the Timet a letter, in which he atiilee tittt t^ 
pretx "Bev." is a more conventional courle^, 1%t 
courtesy seemi to have been originally applied ta, 
sisstics of the higher rank; but when thcMe 
degree came to be coorteoualy addreaaed as ** R( 
then the higher dignitaries were rec 
** Right Reverend " or " Very Reverend 
who have addreeaed " N. k QJ' on tb 
consult the General Indexes. They^ will bo led tl 
to much valuable information on tliif matter.] 


"Beat the dog bbforti the lion.'— TKLb pro- 
verb occurs in George HerherVs Jticula PruderA^ 
but is not very explicit. Howe^-er, brfon Ib 
this place means ^"t '* 
i^iven b}"" Gotgrave 
^*Batre/* where ht .... .^ 
chim dtvaiit le lityft, to punish 
thepresence, and to the terror < 

The merit of underBtandiii 
it will explain a passage in t_ ! ' i 

in Shak3i)eare, viA, the following ; — 

" And for to maken other be war by mCj 
As by the whelp chastised is the )e>oun.'' 

Chaucer^ S^, Tal^, PL 1. 

a meanc 

person ! 





A \muhhmQnt more tn policy titan in mallco -, erea 
f one wfiiitd beat hia oflfenc^tlesi dog to frJglu ui im- 
UQn:*—Olhdto, Vu 3, 27/i, 

If anj cf)iT€3j>ondent cnn iell me if the proverb 
k found in Latin or Greek, I shjUJ be obliged. 
Walter W, Skkat* 
1^ Cintn T«moc^ Ounbridfis. 

Pamallkl Pass ages.— Compare the well-known 
P sUma in Gmfs Mkgy — 

' Full many iv geai of purest m; serene 

The dark unfathom'd c&vet of oc«ui bear : 
FoU nuioy a dower if bom to Ultuh uuHen, 
And wute it< fwectness on tl^e desert tir/' 

with the following from the poems of Ossian — 
i ** Whw did not I pass away ia lecrot, like ifae flower of 
' tkm foek tiiat UIW its fair head imseoQ, and atrewB Ita 
wilted UaTet on the blast I '*—Fiiit/uL 

'H. T. Blyth. 

" T'^ ^. -1 } knows nothbg of its greatest mm." 
'i bill] expression of Sir Henry Taylor, 

in 1 ! - ^ *'rd4c (Pi. I. act I sv, 6), in 

not (lat we find in the follow- 

ing i ~ ,.^ -. I ---^, L.^ {Les CaracUre$, c. iL): — 
"'Ooinblcm d*hoflnfnei admirables, et qui avaiont de 
im hm wL ^ giniet, soot mortt sans qu'on en alt parl^ ! 
Opobten viTont encore dcmt on na parle point, et dont 
fio ii« parlcm jamais ! '* 

C. T. Ramage. 

I may nho add, as a pamllel in the turn of 

;ht (&*** S- ii. 25), whAt Charles Lamb says in 

y on •* The Genteel Style in Writing" ;— 

"XoUiing can be more unliice thmi the inflated finical 

rlliqMiMliei of Shaftesbury and the plaia natural chit-chat 

of Tie»|>lc .... The peer seems to h&re writteo with 

his coronet on, and bis Karl's mantle before him ; the 

MDUnoner, in his elbow chair and androsa.*' 

X W. W. 

In tho IkipHomphiskB of Athemens some iatx- 
tloas deMmptioiifl are auoted from the old Come- 
iSatiB 4d the Satnmia Rc^gna, when^ &a there were 
m msnmatMf whatever was wanted presented it«elf 
iPOBtaiieooBly> The following extract is from the 
omMi cj/ Nicophon, a comparatively modern 
Indtatof ii the ancients : — 

N4<^Tu» /AC I' dkcftirmSy 
i^aJca{cTO) 5* aproitTiVf vtrui S* ervet* 
|«s^io^ Sia Twv oSC*v KvXnMrtii Kpia' 

AtJ^n. ItHpn., Lib» VI, o. Wl. 

" Ningat polentis, 

rorMcal panibQi, pluat<|ue pidto, 

jvaeuhnn per Ttsa volvat earnes, 

plac«ata ipsa coin«di se jubeat. " 

Tmnilated by Sehwelghaeuaer. 

Ill Stttki{ie«re*8 Merry Wix:a of Wimhor^ 

Am ▼. ic. 6v we have FaUtaff's reply to Mrs*. Ford : 

* W lh« ikj rain potatoes; let it thunder to the tune 

if Qw« Sfoev^f ; hail kisainf^-comfita, and Btiow cnn- 

p^l Itt tberv be a tcmpcit of proTocatioa.** 

■Ibt property heti^ supposed of the 

see Mr. Collinses note on a jjassage in Trtnlus nnd 
CreMiilaf Act v, so, 2, wtich, on account of ita 
len^h, is given nt the end of the play in Johnson 
and Stoevens's edition. G. S. J. 


Ebthing Bundle of Pro^terbs.— I hm% at 
least three other Bongs that are entitled " A Bundle 
of Proverbs'' (see b^ S. i. 205), all of them be- 
longing to the eighteenth century. Here is one an 
a epeciraen : — 

Ilc.bakuk's my name, it *e well known to toy friends. 
That my dittlee are made up of (jueer odds and ends; 
I can*t in fine cadence your heanmrs asadl, 
Nor wind up each close like a rattlesnake*! talL 

Plain, frank and free^ 

My song shall be ; 
In vain for fine versee mj brain I would thresh, 
For ' What's bred in the bone won't come out of the 

For • What's bred in/ *c. 

Our foes on the ocean sent plenty of ships^ 
But ' It 's not the best carpenter makes the most chips ' ; 
They promts'd to give Britain's sailors a beating. 
Though ' The proof of the pudding they found in the 

The Sans Calottes 

!n rafts and boats^ 
They wouldn't be qaiet, though bsk'd to 1>e ciril, 
' Set a beggar on honeback he 'U ride to the devil/ 

Our island is small, vet it plainly appears 

That * Fishes [qu. P'ttchenl though little, have eUn 

mat ears.* 
The FreTK;h have five kingSj but their threats are but 

For ' Too many cooks do but rain good broth.* 

Their eorVcigns five, 

And all their hive 
Are welcome Britannia to catch when they get her. 
For * Tho' Brag*B a good Dog, yet Holdfast is a better. 

For their threats of invasion we ne'er cared a ruth, 
' A bird in the hand is vorth two in the bush/ 
They may think open-mouth'd to devour ua like sharks. 
Bat, * Tin tho sky falla wc must wait to catch larks.' 
3Iy friends, if wc 
Do but agresj 
Old EngUud her bitterett foes may defy. 
To attempt to say, * Black b the white of her eye.*** 

J. W. K 
Moluahj by Ashfordi Kent. 

A Tradition of the Pass of Kii-lijbcrankik, 

^Travellers proceeding to the upper part of the 
Fms of Killiecrankie by the lower road, will 
observe on their right a deep laviDe (kaowa by the 
name of the "Troopera* Den'^), Cfomei^ hy the 
viaduct of the llighland Railway. 

Tho erection of this mass of mason^ Iub. in 
i5ome measure, filled up the lower part of the den, 
through which a stream (in winter a torrent) 
rushes to join the Garry. 

Previous to the formation of the railway^ 
numerous fniirnifTits of ruftty iron, the remaina of 
bits^ spurs, j ,^ occ«A\0TM3iX^ ts«A^ ^?h«a 




diBCOvery of such relics is accounted for by a 
tradition current in the glen, vi?.,, that before 
MAck»y met Lord Dundee on the field of Killie' 
crankie, he ported a regiment of cavuliy on the 
upper bank of the hollow. 

After the defeat and subsequent retreat, oyer 
the hill of Tuhtch, of King Williain^s ^eneJ:al, the 
Tictarioua clansmen came down in force on the 
troopers, who^ with their horsea, perished in the 

Their bodies were buried, or covered over with 
earth, on the sloping banks of the brook, but so 
uupeiiciaUy that their decay produced very un- 
pleasant results, to obviate which a Highland 
farmer dammed up the wat^r of the rivulet in 
aevenU places above this Aceldama, and when 
aufficiently pent up the torrent was let loose, and 
in its descent swept the graves and their contents 
into the Garry. The site of the excavation from 
which the earth was taken to cover the bodies is 
still pointed out, and a friend of mine had for 
aomo years the frame of a troop-saddle found in 
the ravine. D, A, 

Wjixkeb's " Pronouncino DicTioyARY."— This 
leiricographer seems to me scarcely to deserve the 
repute in which he ha* been held, except as a 
witness of the pronunciations current in his day. 
When he attempts to argue he often becomes 
absurd. J^-j?., he contends that rahin should be 
sounded as rcmon^ because of a bad pun in Shnk- 
speare ; and he seems to approve of sometimes 
pronouncing rather m raijihcr. The sound given 
by him to either and neither diifeia from that now 
most usually adopted. His grammar is often very 
faulty. S. T, P. 

Lord Howk*s Great Naval Victory. — The 
following note by a correspondent of The Naiy^ 
regarding Lord HoweV famous victory over the 
French fleet, on June Ist, 1794, is, I think, suffi- 
ciently int-erestiDg to merit a place in " N. & QJ*i— 
*' After the battle of June Ist. Lord Howe, delighted 
ftt hill BHccesBp offered a prise to tliat sailor who ahould 
write the beet verses in celcbmtion of the event. Many 
leeg^tny and more or leaa elaborate compositions were 
iont in in competition ; but that for which the prize was 
awarded wai the production of a young midshipman ^ 
whow lines ran m foJIowa:— 

' If Prance can e'er be tuught to fight. 

It Rurely must be now ; 
The First of June hath set her right, 
And ihe'II remember hefvie).'" 

• w. A. a 


London compared with Antioch» — I have a 
amnll engraving, 8vo, sijBe, signed ** Hollar, fee." The 
ftubject^ two male figures in the foreground, look- 
ing down upon a walled city, inscribed *'Antiochia," 
which occupies the middle and bnckgronnd of the 
pUte ; underoeMh are the foDowiog lines : — 


** B«hold tbifl ancient Citty from wheQC« otme 
Ab from y* BAcrcd Font the Ohmtianj} n^me : 
Heauen grantc y* owr once famous Lottduu tuajr 
What Antioch gaue, In time not take away, 

" Jobn Stafford, Excu: 1657^ Jo. Oo!'' 

Motto of rmt Clan Chattait* — ^The Times, 
describing the costumes at the ball at Marlborong' 
HouB€, iiayii :— 

''Lady Florence Gower, air the Wtiite Cat« yn$ 
oourse all in white satin and soft white fur, and on a rt 
cat's collar round her neck was written the ClanClialti 
tnotto^ * Toueh not ike cat bot tntK iKi Ohve.* " 

Sir Walter Scott says :— 

" The County of Caithness is supposed to haye ita n 
from the Teutonic settlers of the race of the Cottit i 
heraldry has not neglected so fair an occasion for that 
specieB of painted punmng in which she used to delight 
Ttiuek not tk* eat but a glortt in the motto of Mackintoih^ 
alluding to his crest, whtch^ as with most of the now 
scattered septa of the old Clan Chattan, is the Mountain 
Cat."*— Tfte Fair Maid of FertK, note to chap, xxriL j 

Shakspkauk, CHATJcm^ Fastolf.^ — 1, On the 
Coram Eege Eoll, St. Barthw,, 45 Henry 17" 
Merak 13, Office No. of Roll 117, is a snit 
Bome land at Pruslbury, Gloucesterahire. 
verdict of the jury ia all that need be given ; they 
say — 

" The hamlet of P., where there were four tenants, 
was at a certain time an escheat of the king, who gare 
it to his valet 8imon Sh&kespeye, who afterwards gave it 
io Consiantia de Legh, who gave it to W*" dc Solar, 
the Dft," 

It is useless to give more, the above showing 
thjit Simon- 8 descendants, if he had any, could not 
be traced through this property. 

2, In a workj published in 1&47, by M. Julw 
Delpit, called CoUedion Oinirah d4s Docum^ 
Francis qui se trfmveni en Angleterrf^ p* 43» ifl » 
writ of Edward II, to the ConstAble of the Tovrr, 
to inquire who, in the City of London, mole i^ i 
the Gascons resident there, and the ret 1 1 

said writ. Amongst those who thus * 

Robert h Chaucer. It is on account of Lui: uju^ir 

prefixed to the name that I mention this. 

3, On the Vascon Roll, 1 Henry V., M, % is i 
^ant made, 4th February, to John Faatolf, Amni^er. 
of the ewatleand lordahipofVeir^, worth a hundn ' 
marks yearly, the grantee to siwtain the castle, hi 
not to account. 

Vayres is a commune in the canton and arroi 
dissement of libonrne, department of the Girow* 
where, in n large chateau, built at various tinieSi 
are numeroua remains of the ancient cattle. 

It is impossible to speak positively on such 
subject, but roy opinion is that this grant 
equivalent to what one of %000l, a year 
be now. My study of Shakspeare havin|_ 
limited to tlus work, I am ignorant wheth( 
above has or has not been noticed by any of 






comments tort*^ but tho fontradiction it 
the well-kTiowTi rehtikc of Henry» after his 

tto Falfttaff i» mivnifest. \V. Floyd. 
Mqnati oimneipondeiito desiring inform&ilon 
7 matters of only privAte interest, to affix their 
lid addresses to their queries, id order that the 
r ^ Addressed to tbem direct,] 

Church Bells. — The fine ohl 
laddenhani, in the Isle of Ely (or, as it 
1 ancient communion dmllce, ^^Hadnam 
I "), and from whose lofty tower were 
Ible twenty-eight piirish churches and 
iliedraliif is now undergoing h thorough 
on, though funds iire atili needed for its 
Ion and for the re-erection of the tower* 
of »ix belk are of various dates, from 16S7 
, and they were cast by at least three 
i founders. Two of the bellt*, the fourth 
b, bear the impress of coins, in relief, as if 
d been phhced in the s^md previous to 
in the molten metal. On the fourth is a 
>y of George II., and on the fifth two 
1, one of George I, and the other of Anne. 
r it was customary thus to affix coins to 
thin period (1725-41), some une better 
b campanology will perhaps explain ; but, 
sots, tne fact is worth recording in^* N* <& Q," 
mring inscriptions ap[>ear on the bells : — 


Be the period. Also on No, 1 — 

WOvn : Q.Ytr 

No. 2— 

us HooELF : C.W.*' 

vn : 8cAaBOKot;oB : Mm : I : MoaaUf R. Esad, 

IfjjLDEVS : LABOft : Ipse : Voluftas : I : Eatr% 

>S : Ftcit 1741/* 

I the halfpenny referred to : — 

-^ OOLX -f AJrn + lOBN + PORTia 
p- T»0 : -f XWWUAH + MAM + ME 4" 1725 + 
ShillJng ShiUinic 

Hi D.G. Rex. Anna Regiaa, 

L GLoar BEB TO God opt Hr«H x Edward 
u * Dakiel Goold - WAEDiKa * 1657. 
|Bi> fuin ' * iiiie on this bell, but on 
Kre r W.G. and W.M., and a 

Price, vsiLij, lu Lhe centre, a Latin cro«8, 
ipper comers the sun and moon, and the 
Co ""'* f^^ each side of the cross. Some 
ni be recognized as the foundei-'s 

H , , lig the new foundation for the 
^BnUiT pit or weU was discovered, just 
^ft% four or ^ve feet deep. In it were 
Ebi of sand and scraps of hell-metal^ as 
i Itad been ased for casting some of the!^ 
li Mch a theory tenable? Are similar 
wu i The question seems to me to 

be one of so much interest as to lead me to greater 
length than I intended, but I have been uk concise 
OS possible under the circumstancea. W. U. 

P.S, In the nort.h wall of the cbanoel waa dis- 
covered, on clearing away tjxe pLiater, a ** hagio- 
scope,'* or squint, in eEcellent preservation. 

i After reading the above, many of our readers maj be 
_ uced to assist the rector in his eodeavoar to raise 
funds for the restoration of this churck] 

German Emigrants m the EioiiTiiKNTri 
Century. — Under what regulations were German 
emigrants permitted to settle in America during 
the previous century? In Gentian Pioneerf^ a 
Tak of th€, Previous Century, by Friedrich 8pie!- 
liftgen, there occutb the following passage, of which 
I should like an explanation : — 

** From the peak of the voisel waved the Butoh flag, 
but the cargo was Oermaa— foar or five hundred emi- 
grant* : one scarcely knew exactly, for some time pre ' 
vioua the weu had been sent on shore to do homigei or 
twear allegiance Ihuldigen), at the Senate House to the 
King of Engl And." 

This was in April, 1768. Jar Aitcb. 

An Amebicak Essay, or Euloqy, ok Wombn. 
— Some time ago — ^about three years, 1 think — an 
octogenarian lady, now no more, lent me an 
American newspaper which contained a very 
humorous essay, or eulogy (1), on the fair sex. It 
had been often delivered at what we call " penny 
readings.^ It contained various interruptions and 
expostulations from the audience. On a Jiut 
delivery, these disapprovals and remonatrancep 
must have had n ludicrous effect. On a subHecpicnt 
delivery, such outbursts, of course, no longer 
deceive, and the tjot-np by-play is seen through^ 
and loses its effect. I remember a passage some- 
what as follows : — 

*' ' And now, huliei and gentlemen ! allow me to intro- 
duce that paragon of her sex, and of all the virtues, 
Lucretia Boreia.* 

'* * We won t have her ! don't want to hear anytbiug 
about her ! ' cry the audience^ 

** * Well, then," continues the lecturer> * allow me to 
brinjT before you the amiable Mr a. Brovmrigg, whose 
wholesome discipline towards her refractory appreotioee 
led to her martyrdom, which^ unfortunately, has not 
been followed by canon ixat ion ! ' 

'* * We won't have her either/ cry the audience, * yow 
pais on to somebody else 1 now go ahead ! ' ** 

The essay occupied about four columns of a 
large newspaper, for I remember the journal was 
one of those mmistcr pa^iera that we only find in 
the States, I should like to know if the essay has 
appeared in a separate form, and, if so, who is the 
publisher, anil how I could obtain a copy ; and I 
should also like to have some particubirs as to the 
author. The essay was anonymoun in the joumal. 
I do not believe that it had even a fiv^ga»l\vx^ «i*^ 
initiala^or a twmi de pUittu. T«AiK^ ^2B&'to^** 



l^an.At?o. 22,74. 

Dr. Colly kr could aid my mquiry, and, if so, 
send a iiot43 to '' K. & Q." 

James Henet Dixok. 

CtiaisTOPHER Dratton, — Id a raw little 
Tolume, entitled — 

' ' Lych nocanift stva Honlui Ficvm Emblem* ta. Li^lt ta 
Morail Emblemfl. Anthora Hobtrta FarUto Scoto-Bn* 
tauDO. Sir luceat lux vestra <£? cei, London, Pritited b; 
T%o, Co(&, for Michael Sparks lunior, md are to be eold 
ftt the blue Biblo in Ortifn4 Arbor, 1638/' 

are the following lines : — 

•* To the Arahor, 
Mtroit bright tftinpe, whicb abe on S«itm itnMAd, 
Set up to be a marke, by which mleht land 
Her ioir'd Leandert when he crost the Sea 
Of ffelUtpont ; long aince wa» outi and we 
Onely enjoy its fame, the light is gone, 
ADd tow'r ia buried in obliirion. 
Th' Mfjmitian Pkaro*, which waa fam^d to be 
The worlds acjiv 'nth wonder, in obscurity 
Lyes niin'd, and that miiltiplicit light, 
Once to the Marrinera a Snnne bj night, 
la now extinct ; for tie decreed by fate, 
What Art doth reare, that Time shall ruinate : 
Kay holy Writ aitnref , at the laat daT 
The Btarrea shall fall from heaven, tfie snnnc decayj 
The Moone be tiimd to bbod^ those which God made 
Firat moat resplendent lights, at last ahall fade. 

U But thy Lighta most tranaceodent, can no hand 
Of Time or Fate (which all thinga else bath ecand,) 
Put to these Lights an end, for these thai! be 
Blight ehinjng Tspera to Eternity, 

** Chntt<fpher Drayton.' 
*I dmU be glad to leam if there is anything 
Tmown of the writer of the foregoing, and if he 
was in any way related lo the ilhmtrious poet^ 
Michf^el Drayton. S. 

Father Louis Le Comte, one of the Jesuits 
Tfho left Fmnce in I^Inrch, 1685, to go to Ghin;^, 
and the author of the wcll-kno'wn Memoirs and 
Obserwxiion* . , . . mad4 in a late Journcij through 
the Empire of Chhuty wrote, on p. X of the Edmr* 
{dammni dc la TMnoyuiaiion jaiU a N, S, I\ k 
Pope .... MDCC, 12mo, pp, 32: — 

* H y a quatro ana que je donnay au public lea noureaux 
Midiiioirea de la Chine. J'eua Thonneur de lea pr^aenter 
au Eoy, aux J-'T^quea, h toute la Prance ; ct oe livro fut 
ai bien re<^u, qu'on en a fait sept c'ditiona, et qa'il a etc 
tradnit en pluaieura taogues der Europe . . , ." 

Will some one be good enough to j(ive me a 
description of these aeven editions, and of any 
others which may have been since published in the 
French language, and of the various trunalations 
of l\m work I 


Bun van's Ihitatobs.— In the Preface to the 

Whole Works of Mr, John Bunyatiy in 8 vols. 8vo., 

[published by Alexander Hogg, iibout 1780, 1 read: 

'* When thai great man Dr. Simon Patrick attempted 

I to write the parable of the Christian pilgrim, ho made 

■mmaelf ridiculoua-^vnd when the anonymous scribbler 

of the third part of the Pilgrim's Pnigreag tried to 

0btrade his stuff on the world as the production of Mr. 

Buuyan« the cheat >Tae eoon diaeoTerad; erery Chri^tlaa 
of taste could see the diB^ereuce as easily at we can diac^iii 
the superior excellence of a Raphael era Tiii&n from the 

SToductionsof a common dauber; and we eaiiaa easily 
iatinguiah Bunyan from all other writera oa we can 
discern the difference between the finest cambrick and a 
piece of hop aackmg/" 

Where can I learn anytbing furt«ber of ihebe 
two works, and what are their precise titles I 

J. CiLvRLEs Cox. 
Haselwood, Helper. 

Cardinal Wolsbt is said by Hasted to haviij 
been Vicar of Lydd, lind it is supposed that 
built the tower of its church. The stvl© of i 
building is evidently that of his time, Thft J 
of Lydd belonged to Tintern Abbey (to wh 
was given by one of the De CLires). It i 
less through this means he obtained it. Any i 
formation upon the above would be of venri, 
interest. Artbihl Fzmc» 

Weetbroke, Lydd, 

Episcopal Query. — One John Boner Is 

scribed as "Buachudunei epus." in a record date 
1440. To what see is reference thus maile ? 

Tatlor's **Biaoksi8": Straubs^s "Old Fajtb 
Asxt New.'* — Have any specific replies been written 
to the aboye ; if so, by whom, and where pnh- 
lished? T. k 


Btlakd Abbey, Yorebhire. — I want the 
mimes of any works containing accounts of thl^ 
Abbey and neighbourhood. Where can I ol i.i 
the best information respecting the names of tU. 
ancient inhabitants of the locality l J. A 

William McGtreoor Logatt.— Cm 
favour me with a few biographical pur 
the author of the English tmnslation <*i 
ot Der Freisekuhj first performed on tl 
stage in 1824 I He is author also of ' 
Fro7nue^ an opera, performed at the < 
June, 1833, and 'The Comdj an opcFji, 
Mr. Logan a native of Scotland, and in h 

living I R» iNGLla. 

" MlNIOK.'* — 

'* They hare erer abhorred, and cannot away v* i 
thia day, a multitude of idols and ceremomcf. v ; 
that levity of ifitHtcJt^i repreeentationa and Mii^omttV! n 
iVc— William Freake, 7%e Dodrina and Prtu^ticct :/ : 
Socidii ofJetuita (1630), pp. 9, 10. 

Is miymk, " frivolous," shortened from wm 
or is the latter based on the former ? If -m 
came first, and horn the Old High Gennim mu;>'\ 
whence was its termination derived I F. ii 


NoBrEsci.ATTJRK OF Vericlks. — Suwly araoflg 
the contributors to ** S, & Q." there must be soiue 

ff» & 11. Aeo. 22, Ti.] 



|»«f9ona learned in Long Acre lore, and to them I 
appeid fnt tnfonuAtioii regarding the why and 
fmcreibro of the mim&?, and th« dates of Intro- 
doelion, uf the following vehicles, rh.^ landau, 
Iitft«ln, harouchc, tdbary, don net (?), stanhope, 
dIuu:! 1 phiieton, sociable (or t>M-«^vt</). 

OttT IS in France have g^tveu us coupt^ 

and L-aiTLoa-L 1 barouche, too, I preaumeX besides 
Olllifir n&mea; and their lively wit has often been 
Ctlijd into play by novelties or peculiarities in the 
gBDUi eoAcn ; er ^., of eighteenth-centary date, 
1. A Bnull ooftch, which carried but one person, 
HSi Ulflrefore dubbed *'a misanthrope/' 2, A 
luiduiey coach with wooden blinda was called ** the 
^uaide of sinnerBiy'* becftose the young men oarried 
^Bimr muitreflses to a couDtry frolic in these vehicles. 

■ WaibMini. 

TnrccKT a>'d Newcombe. — Can any of your 
^Mgder^ fnrnLili mje with replies to this cmeiy? — 
^^^^Ber Eev. Willi^im Vincent, D.D., Dean 

^^^h'' r, married J on Ifith inot 4bh, as at 

^^^ft409k Aatfust, 1771, to Hannaii, daughter of 
P^H^B Viyutt^ of St. M;irgaret's, Wentminster, by 

■ tff wife Hannah (Wood) i What descendants of 
*tiac Vincent (Windsor Herald, 1624, died 

1625-6, and buiied at St. Benet*a, 

j are now living ? He had a son 

ent, of Uffington, Lincolnshire, who had 

who married and bad issue* I am 

making out a pedigree of the family of 

scended from Miles Vincent, of Swin- 

rehire, in 1317. John Newcombe, 

William Newcombe, by his wife 

^. 1;, bom 22d February. 1725, married 

beth, i^iater of Dean Vincent, tut where and 

the marriage took place I have not dia- 

cavigred. I much wi^h to learn the places and 

jKoct dates of the births and baptisms of their 

djtjii,—Samh, bom about 1752; Eliziibeth, born 

fft 1754: and William, bora 10th October,} 

Tli i Newcombe became a banker 

; bi Praeds'), and had a resideiioe 

I Trent hick in Cornwall. 

RKGt5fAi*t) Stewart Boddinotok. 
IS, Markliaia Bqukre, S.VV. 

Stft Qerard LTpFLETB. — Who was be? He 
Elizabeth Mowbray, Duchess of Norfolk, 
bisginning of the fifteenth century* Were 
» any children of such marriage I A. C 

CtAClDfACtJDOE^f, — What b this famous stone 
k ljiTertu?ss ? What does the name mean, and [» 
fe© any legend? D. F. 

TuoitMB Wr^ - ^ OF BaETToN Hall, 

17 WhowJis he/ He had 

•yiaUn,,,.. .^. .;x-pkt<s of which I have a 

Thm hi an obelisk on the led marked 

kno\dtihjty formed of titpa of books, sunnountecl by 
a bbizin^ star. In the centre, supported by (ignres 
of ApoUo and Minerva, is a taolet bearing the 
riu thorns name, with the price, number, and date, 
entered in writing ; above tbis is the capital of a 
column^ with figures of an owl, an ink-bottle, and a 
trumpet, with the motto, on a flying scroll aboYe> 
each thtir oi&n; below these is a globe, map, 
piilette, compasses, &c., with a shield bearing crest 
and arms ; and to the right the words **" Minerva 
manufactory," — the whole being finely engraved, 

Buenos Ayres. 

"Seeing wmiouT PERCEivrwc.** — An article 
with this heading appeared some time ago in 
one of the minor periodicals. An indication in 
" N. & Q." of where it may be found will much 
oblige an old subscriber and occasiojial contributor. 

*' Shot." — What is the meaomg and derivation 
of the termimvtion in the local names Alderahot, 
Brtgshot, &c. ? Is the tennination " shot " or " hot" I 
If the latter, is it a coniiption of "holt"? 

C. 0. B. 

" CimiaTiANrTr as Old as Orjsation ; or, the 

Gospel a Republication of the Religion of Nature." 
— I want any infomiation as to the name of the 
author of this book, published tn 1700 (4to, volume). 

E. J. 

" Sawt Day/*— In the mining districts of the 
north of England the pay day used to be known^ 
and probably is BtiU, as the " savvy day." What 
is the origin of the term ? Stephen Jackson. 

Pi*Acioo, THE Cuban Poet,— Have the poems 
of Placido, the Cuban slave (who was execQied for 
*^ insurrection " at Hubana, July 7th, 1844), ever 
been ooUecteil I I am anxious to see the original' 
of the celebrated prayer which he chuuiited as he 
wne led to death, and which has been transkted 
by Whittier, W. E, A. A, 


Thomas Wilsoh, M.P. roa Staftobd, 1812.— 
Who was he, and what was the date of his death ? 
Alfred B, Beaven, M^. 

The Family of Pcrt, or Purjcy, of Tat^- 
ton, GLoncRSTERSHTTtK. — What connciuon is there 
between the Porys of Gloneestershire and the 
Pureys of Kirton, Lincolnshire, the heiress of which 
married Sir Richard Cast ? The anna are the aame* 
In the CoU44^t4iiiea Topograpkka tt GenMh^fica of 
Nichols, voL iv. p. 105, the anns of Puiyare men- 
tioned as being impaled with those of DanT«!ra in 
the windows ot St. Duns tan-in- the- West, mentioned 
by Nicholas. Charles Poreyqaarters as., a fess^ or. 
between three dnoks^acg. Yah!Qfii^«xixa^%t^^^l> 




William Danveis was JuBtico of the Common Pleas 
in 1488. Is there any pedigree of thfe Pureys, or 
any account of them ? H. Cust. 

"MoRi.K ExcOM I CTH," — In this aatirical work, 
r the celebmted Emsmua, who La the person named 
cotus ? The personation of Folly h represented as 

** While I am acting the Divine and Tentaring into 
their pwlemick difficultiea, wiih mjielf for aome time 
anlmAted with i:icotua, hi a briatling and prickty soul, 
which I would not care ho^v afterwanlB it returned to 
his bcdy» though for rcfincmeut it were itoppod at ft 
purgatory by the wjiy," 

A curious woodcut of the most humorous 
description shows the purgation of the soul prior 
to returning to the body of Scot us. Why " briatliDg 
md prickly m\i\ *' ? ' J. B. P. 

Bftrboume, Worcester. 

AuTOOR Wanted, — 

'^ An Arcbjcologkal Episik to the Reverend and 
Worship fid Jeremiah MiUes, D.D., i>eau of Exeter, 
President of the Society of Antiquirries, and Editor of a 
mipcrh edition of the Poems of Tliom48 Rowley, Priest, 
to which in annexed n Glossary extructed from that of 
the Learoed Dean." 1 toL 4to., pp. 1&, Loud , 1782, Is. 

Who wn,^ the writer of this lampoon on the 
Kowley controversy ? Richakd HEMMiyo, 

Mutf, Lib.j Warrington. 

**Grimpe," jl Gamis at Cards,— In a letter 
from St. Evremond to Harry Jermyn, Earl of 
St. Albans, the uncient Epicurean remarks, talking 
of the pleasantest manner of dying, ** Une vole ii 
PHombre ; et a Grimpe troia iis naturels en premier 
contre tioia neufs, termineront assez heureuseiuent 
votre vie." What was **Grimpe"— a modifica- 
tion of " Vingt-et-un " f And why the mime of 
**Grijupe"? G, A, Sala. 


P.S, — I hear some talk of the revival of the once 
fashionable game of Hombrej or as it is misspelt 
(owing to the non-pronunciation of the h in 
Spanish), " Ombre/^ But, if the game bccomea 
popular agttin^ it would be as well to insist upon 
the hj as meiining ** Hombre^'* a man ; as other- 
wise "Ombre" might be taken in its French 
Biguification, as a shadow. 


(b*^ S. i. 5<)5,) 
It is anything but an enviable task in Eng- 
lish folk 'lore to have to make a note of the con- 
tinuance of Huch a practice i*s that of '* worming '^ 
dogs. Unfortunately, the "old Cheshiiv gsir- 
dener ** haa jnany town and country cousins litill 
living who equally believe in the '* worm/' which 
they gravely assert to exist in the tongue of the 
do^. Half-grown pups very often have nn irre- 

sistible desire for gnawing everything which coma 
in their way; and people who would scorn the id« 
of restmining the exuberance of their too-noiJ 
urchins, by attempting to emdicate a tongue won 
here see a very ditt'erent state of affaire* and havin 
discovered a preposterous theory, proceed to ex 
it by a cruel and absurd operation. 

The origin of this hypothetical worm is a fib 
septum which divides the tongue into two htdvil 
in a vertical d inaction, and which, becomin 
thickened on the under surface, presents the ap 
pearance of a thin white ligament ; this is to 
** worm," which is forthwith torn out by 
professional or amateur wisejicre, while the 
excited for a few days restrains the poor animal 
from any desire to bite or bark, or even to eat. 
The unnily pup is thought to be weaned from I * ~ 
wicked ways, but in nine cases out of tea he 
turns, however, until nature performs the cure i 
pushing out the temporary and providing the ] 
manent fangs. 

As to worming being of any use in preventi 
rabies, it is only an instance of one of thf^ ...y-r 
popular fitllacies, and of the pertinacity ^v 
the more absurd a theory is the more pc ^^^t. -ii , 
stick to it. Who, at corn-cutting time, wheal 
some yokel has accidentally succeeded in nearly 
severing a limb, has not found him, deliberately 
"letting it bleed a bit, maister," thinking that 
herein hj the Urst principles of cure, and inform in^^ 
us for his reiison over and above, that his " fanlier 
did so when he cut hisaelf, and his feythcr 'afore 

We can nndergt^nd the ultimate nnalyuis of 
reasoning in Goldsmith's animal, where — 
*' The dog« to gain some private ends, 
Went ijiad, and bit the man," 

when we meet with such men as the Chcshirti 
gardener, with his " lone experience *' in worming- ' 
It is stmnge that the dog, which has been 
the faithful ally of man so long that History , 
cannot remember at what perio^i of her Imby- ' 
hood he £rst left the beasts of the field, t^l 
come under the roof as servant and friendil 
should still be bo little understood* He indei^J 
ought to be possessed of nine lives if Nicholai* 
Cox is correct when he enumerates in his GeniU- 
man*» Eecreaiion "seven sorts of madnesses whicli 
afflict a dog/- He gives " divere cures and remediw 
for biting of dogs," one of which may nof 
out of phice here. ** Against the simpK 
a dog> take the urine of a dog, which i^ 
since there is but little venom in those woy 
To lay the hair of the same dog thereon Iff 
much tjdkt on) I look upon as ir '' np 
We laugh at this reitie<ly of two \ 

ago, but the various suggestions oLu*tJHM<i 
a modem crowd around a dog in a fit .ixe 5 
absurd and ridiculous— lancing his mouth, bh 
his " shoulder veins/' cutting his tail^ alittlng i 





liis tBi^ rubbing his nose with buckthorn, tobacco, 
salt, and loatly the hiaty truncheon of mme intelli- 
geot constAble, if he am be found, are »ome of the 
cries which are only too fu miliar to all of ua. 

There are, probably, no more raad dogs about 
now than there were fifty or a hundred years ago. 
Most things and thoughts revolve in the cycle of 

XI, and every dog ha« bis day, though those 
tied to the canine tribe are for the most part 

Latterly the ciy of " road dog " has again been 
nifled, and in many instances it has acted like the 
tail-tied tin kettle on Kome poor cur who was 
enduring the pain of returning sensation after an 
ofdinaiy fit, and who only wanted to get away 
fram. everybody, and, like Mark Twain's horse, 
^lean np against a pist and think.*' 

In the second volume of the Citisen cf the 
World U an article on the ^* Epidemic Terror, the 
dread of Mad Dogs, which now prevails ; the 
whole oation is now actually groaning under the 
mali^ity of its Influence," which ia an outcry 
qniie as great as ours of 1H74. 

Rabiea ia a very rare disease in England ; and 
wlien an epidemic breaks out, it is generally found 
to proceed from one, or, at the most, two cases of 
decided madness, the others Ijcing simply lite of 
an ordinary kind, aggravated by hooting and hunt- 
ing, and which with proper care and common- 
sense are in no way dangerous to man. Of the 
cause and tre:U,ment of rabies nothing is known, 
except tbit irritation is likely to help on any pre- 
di:9poaition in a greater degree than any other 
cau«e in this the most naturally nervous of rdl 
An innJjt. J. Devekish Hoppus, 

The ** thorough ventilation" of the subject 
hronght forward by Junii Nepos will be best 
ffieetod by a good blast^ strong enough to blow 
away altogether the vulgar error of worming dogs. 
No doubt there are to be found in every neigbbour- 
hood men who^ either from ignorance or dishonesty, 
are ready to cut a puppy's tongue and extract a 
wappoaed worm. When anything is really taken 
oat, it is the duct of the poor animal's salivary 
dand, which is made to do duty for a worm. 
How utterly absurd is it to suppose that such a 
cnnture, even if it existed under every pupp/s 
tooffoe, would lie there quietly for years, neither 
oncMi^ing transformation nor changing its habitat, 
and then, at last, in one instance among a hundred 
HKmfand dogs, would cause such a constitutional 
5 aa hydrophobia ! J. Dixon. 

CttARi ^T ss GiTNN (5«* S. ii. 88.)— Charles 

BaliM (i es*') Gunn, after publishing his 

\ SmuUo. -^ ^'-'' nt Yarmouth, became 

'LaoiUT Language and Litera- 

[tovt^at t«iv J^....... I ..* i . , .iiimsium, Amsterdam*" 

IH^poUiilwd in liotterdam, 1859, Th€ Hittoriml 

Et4}thT and Translator; Exerci^fs on Archhi^top 
Whnkhy* *' ♦Si/«ont/?rw," London, ISCf); ManutU 
iff Modern Engluh Prose Literature, Haarlem, 
1862 : Goldm Treasury of English Poetry, Am- 
sterdam, 1862 ; and .4 Manual of Modern Eng- 
lish Foetieal Littraturf^ Haarlem, 1863. These 
books were written, their author tells us, for uae 
in " those Educational Establishments in which a 
well-grounded knowledge of the Language and 
Literature of my country is cultivated and appre- 

In 1864 appesared, on the 15th of each month, 
Th4 Entjlish and American Mmithhj Etviewer, 
Conducted by C. H, Gunn. Amsterdam, Binger 
Brothers." Twelve numbers only were published. 
Mr. Ixglis is right in thinking Mr, Gunn a Cam- 
bridge man. In the July numWr of the Eftnetoer 
appeared the following lines, which I should like 
to see rescued from the remains of the extinct 
Amsterdam Reviewer: — 

"Tea AoiD CANTi^a to bjs Ootttoa Cap a»d Oowir. 
Damao^a quid non imminutt diei T->HoR. 

Ah f there ye bang^ my cap and gown ! — meroentoes 

of the past, — 
And ye, like lae, I plainly wee, arc fs^infi^ very fait : 
S?ince iaflt we beard the Proctor's voice, * Your Colleca 

and your name ? ' 
We 'vc changed alike , my good old friends, and nought 

remains the same ! 

Ye once were black as black could be, but DOW a ruMet 

brown J 
Time dulls the jet wMch once was yours, my College 

cap and gown 1 
And I^ too, share as hard a fate,— he makes tnei too, 

his prey, — 
Ye saw me with my bright jet locks, and now ye see 

me grey 1 

Each College scene ye bring to mind of Commons and 

Of scnimhling to the Chapel gate at winter roon)£iig*a 

Aad aA on you I paze it seems that College days return, 
And &U the ardour of my youth afresh begins to bumf 

Ob, how we passed the bappy time, nor feared tb« 

Dons a bit, 
And laughed at all the Dean prf scribed, in jocmid fun 

and wit ! 
And when Commencement week at length brought 

beauties to the town* 
We thought, I Tear, much more of them thasi books, 

my College gown. 

But now, alas ! those College days are gone for ever 

No more for as the Tictor*a bump,—' Bt John * and 

Ko more for ua the merry meal, the hoax, the laugh, 

the fun,— 
The fleecingt of a smooth-tongued Gyp who charged 

us three for one t 

Ah t happy days, for eyer past,— now Oranta*s charroi 

are o*er, — 
ThotJgh Mem'ry— potent sibyl !— lores to haunt ibem 

as of yore ; 



L6»^8. a At?B.22l7» 

Down Lethe a aMe etfeAta tkej j^Mt, 7et» gildings 

seem to «U7r — 
The hop63» the )Qj9, the Ioto of youth, to clj««r Life's 
darkening: daj. 

Qtanta ! these icenee are freah ftnd fur, inscribed on 

McmWe page ; — 
They urged the luidour of my youth ^ imi2 now they 

cheer my a^e ; 

Long cherished be the memVy of thy lored and 

nonoured name, — 
Thy ttreumi of lore from which I ahUied my youthful 

thirst for fame. 

Time in his flight has borne mo on to farrowed age, it 

And d&y 1^ day I *m gliding down Life*i ererflowing 

The Ocean of Btemitj !— there they are winding 

And I muat go and leare you here» my College cap and 

" a H. Gujnr." 
Sparks Henderson Williams, 
Kensington Orescenti W. 

Columbus (6"^ S, L 448.)— Columbut died at 
Valladolid, May 20, 1506 (Ascenaion-djiy), aod 
wns buried in the Convent of San Franciaco. In 
1 513 his body was transported to the Carthuaiaii 
Monaat^ry of Lata Ousvnfl, at Seville. His son 
Fernando U buried in the cathedral of thjit cityj 
and it ifl on his tomb thut the well-known motto — 
** A Caitillft y ji Leon 
Mnndo nnevo dl6 Colon/' 
is inEcribed. 

In 1636 his body, with that of his son Diego, 
wag removed to St. Domingo, and there interreS ; 
but on January 15, 1796, hia booeJi were brought 
to Havana, and deposit^ tn an urn covered by an 
ereet monumental shib on the left-hand aide of the 
entrance to the choir of the cathedral. The in- 
scription beneath the bust of the discoverer, which 
forms a portion of the monument, is m follows :— 
" Eotta BO Imngen del Gnode Colon I 
Mil ngloa dnntO goArdadoe en hi Urna 
T en U romemhniMB do Nucatra Naclon J '* 

The blazon of his arms given at the reference 
above is a curious translation of a part of the 
blazon which I |3:ave in " N. & Q^" 2«'* S. xii. 401. 
The '* Cope of Castile and Loon " is the same thing 
as ** Tescu en mimteau," &c 

I may, perhaps^ be allowed to answer my own 

auery at the latter reference, by giving the bkzon of 
le augmented arms of the great navigator. They 
were — quarterly; 1. Gu. a castle or (Caslik). 

2, Arg, a lion rwnp. eu. crowned or (Leon), 

3. A aea, az. seme of iiJands aig., covered with 
trees proper, and strewn with crains of gold, the 
blue of the qmirter surrounded by a similar repre- 
sentation of a portion of the terra firma, 4. Az. 
five anchors in saltire or. The whole — mU en 
pointf Biury wavy aig. and az. 

John Woodward, 
The PariODsge, Mon^oee* 


I have seen tho t<mib of Oolrnnbus In 
eathedral at Havanti. Both the cathedisi 
the tomb disappoint expectution&f especially 
former, on ooming, as I did^ after seeing llw 
cathedral in the city of Mexico. There is a wood 
cut drawing of ea<m in Hazard's Csiha. nnbl 
in 1B71 by Measfs. Sampson Low, S 
Columbus died at Valladolid, 20tii I 

His remains were removed to Seville in 1513, tb( 
in 1536 to San Domingo, sod in 179(5 to Cuba. 
The inscription on the monument is very poor ini 
expression. Thomas Falconcil 

OsTfiMAK (5*** S, ii. 110.)— This word is in oom* 
moo use still in Kewcastle-on-Tyne, twj applied to J 
a society fstill in existence there. The word \mM 
spelt "ostman or hostman" by Brand, the locdT 
untiquaiY, who traces the use of it to very early 
times. Hi| derivation of the word from tho bar- 1 
barous Latin oustmanni^ i. c, the es^tnii^n, is opSA J 
to question* It seems much more si 
it as the German word winwin, or 
eastern countries, with whom we muHi 
in early times our chief trade was c:. 
John Evelyn tells us, in his Diary , that 
was in Antwerp (October 4, 1641) he v 
Ot^ters houit belonging to the East Inti 
pany. Our word iterUny h by many < 
to be only a oonuptiou of Omtcr/iJi^, anoti 
stance of our close communication with f* 
in business transactions. The society of 
or boatmen (says Brand) existed as a gudd OfPi 
fraternity in the town of Newcaiitle-on-Tj^ue ftcml 
time immemorial, and appears finally to have beeaj 
incoTporat<?d by royid charter about the year 159^^ 
by Queen EUmbetL The society still lives under 
the name of the Ostman^s Oompiuiy, and anaoally 
elects its governor and stewards on the 4th «f 
Januoxy. Its funds, which I believe Rm not warn 
considerable, are devoted to charitable ami be*- 
pitable uses. Francis BitoiiL£T. 

at, Anac'Sp HewcsBtlo-on-Tjne. 

In the lAfi of Lord Eldon by Twias, there ii 
the following note on this word (vol i« pi, ^4, 

" We learn from Brwid'e HiHory of N'emeaHti'amfTfm 
(17S9. voL ii. p. 269) that » society of ostmea or hoftmw 
liAd existod as a ^ild or fratemity in that town fhwi 
time immeinoriAli proriotis to their InoorpocutkMi b; 
ch&rtcr in IQQO hy (^ueea EUzAboth." 

He adds :■ — 

" The csuie of their ri t^eemstol'' i 

in the Bubseqaent statu \ , cap. 9 < \ 

'' Murchiknts alieiui : -..._ . o it i« ordk . . 
fltablUhed that in everie Gitie« towne and porto oi 
ioa in Eaglandi where the aoide marchantd aXUm . 
strangeri l^ or thall be repairing, sufficient hooties s (laii 
be aatiffned to the samo inarohADti by tho maior» iheriffM, 
or bainffea. of the mid cities, townet, and porlea of the 
aea ; and tuat the mid marohaates aliens attd stnttgrfi 


& n. Al»>. 23, 7i.] 



. ia fiane other p1iL9«^ bui nith tbeir B&id 
tQ b« usigucd, and that the hudo lioitcs so to 


^ i for their tr»T»iIe in the itianer aa 

fMeuiCauied in olde time." ^StatuU* by Barker, 1567, 
▼ol. I p. 228. 

Bnmd farther states thut it appears from tbe 
eailieBt entries in the booki< of thiH society of 
iMMfltmen, that the stranger arriving ui the port 
d TfM to buy ccala ia ^ed '' iha oaste "" ; Bud 
h» ^ves an engravinjr of " The Seiile of the Fre- 
tcmity of the Ostmen of the Towne of Newcastle- 
upon-Tine," representing the hoastman receiving 
toe stiozjger and addresaing him tbua, *^ Weloome 
my oste. 

He quotes also that — 

*■ Camden, in hia BriianAia, toL il foL, 1319, gfTea 
the following «tjriiioii r — 

*' * The word hottmeo may not improperly bo t&ken to 
be trmden into the ewteni part« of Europe, and may 
hftve their name from the Iditin word ouatmanni, i. €., 
the eAftmen, h trading into those part«« aa well aa the 
nnttnianni, L €., the eaitmen, who came from the lea- 
oo««t of G«nnanv into Ireland, where, under colour of 
tradn and merchandise, being admitted into iome of 
their citiet, in a ahort time they began a very terrible 



Ill the Chanoery proceedings to which your cor* 
wpOiideiit alludes I doubt not but it meanfi 'a 
mr^ml seller. Thus I find :-- 

" Jfo«f(-«9«iiY an ancient guild or fraternity (trading 
tiwaeoal) at Newcaatle."— Colea'a JSn^uA fXdi&naryf 

"Otif or DoU (C.*), a vesicl, on which hopi or malt u 
diyod.*'— Keraeya £n^luh Dictionary, 1715^ 

*• ^oojc-ntfii, an ancient company ,of deaJert in aea- 
eoal at Newcaatle-apon-Tyne/'^Keraey'a Sn^lith 2>i>- 
liMary. 1715* 

"0«j< (S.C.) (iouth country word), a kiln,**— Bayey'a 
bitilsiamm, 17^1. 

" Ott^ Oottt a veeael upon which hopa or malt ii dried." 
^BMtey'B DtOionary, 1751, 

' ihntt^Mmf an ancient company of traders In aea*eoal 
il 2Ic«liaitku"->6aUey'B Dietionartf, 1751. 



In Kent the Od^ or OaM^ is the kiln in which 
ihc liopi are dried, and the Oatmaii is the peraon 
etoployed in drying them. If the word, as Bailey 
givisi it| mean any kind of kiln, then Otieman may 
01 properly he understood of a drier of miilt aa a 
drier of hnp*. " Maltster " I take it, more properly 
aueuia the deiiler in tualti or the master for whom 
the OtUmcDx works. 

Edituxd Tew, M.A. 

Odeman = *' kiln-dryer," undoubtedly. The 
Unftdte wnrd is tut, at^ m icst ; nnd there is the 
'*to kiln -dry." Hopscame to ns^ I 
It^Htve^ Won ilie ^'eiherlands. 

JoRN ADDrs. 

I comaiiy ygrd« 

From osty oo^^i^ oavi, a kiln or a vessel upon 
which hopa or malt are dried (see Johnson, Bailey, 
and Wedgnnood's Dictimiarm). The word is allied 
to, and it may be derived from, the Dutch lUk 
which ia explained in Hexham's Neifurduyki 
DictionairUf 4to., 1660, to be *^ a pkce where 
bioley is dr\ ed to make malt with,* and by Kilian, 
in his Di ! T^lofiico - Latinum^ n&, 

"Ustrina, C-! rua fornax,'* 

Mabsl Peacock. 

Bottesford Manor, Brigg* 

Mutton's " L' Allegro " (6^ S. i. 406 ; ii. 94.) 
—Mr. Bbnkett haa, I see, very nearly, but not 
quite, put his linger on the spot. He gives you 
^ tell" and **told/' I will go a step further and 
give you ** tale," the word, and in the sense Milton 
meant it The three words are still in use on the 
sheep farms in the Teme Valley, and the distinct 
meaning of each of them will be apparent in the 
following passage, which is an extract from a work 
I am preparing for the press (not on "fblkdore," 
but a three- volume novel)* The dialogue is be- 
tween master and man, and the scene is a night 
rescue of sheep firom the flood, the aheep being 
huddled together on a knoll, the water rushing 
round them ;— 

'''Stop a bit,' laid Frank, 'and well tell themorer. 
It mar ho some are lost/ 

** * A han told 'em aur/ iaid the wagoner,— who had 
alreadv counted them, — as he acctured one ewe and 
6trugglod stOQtty with another. 

" ' And what do you make the t&Ie of em then ? * 

'"^Sivenan forty sur/ said William; *nointeen Iambi 
an aight an twenty ship.' 

'* ' That 'a right then, for the rest arc by the house. So 
now let's go to work/ " 

Any Teme Valley man will at once recognise 
the above, and such phrases as these, as nttenmces 
in daily use :— 

" Tse agwain to tell tlie ahip aur." 

'* Tlicy bin all roight aur ; me and Jem han told 'em.** 

*^ They bin all theer aur. Ise gotten the talo on *eni." 

Besides, it is by no means probable that Milton 
would negative his claim as a close observer of the 
realities of rural life — which the very context of 
the line {iroves him to have been — by adding to 
the solitajy and matter-of-fact occupation of the 
fihepberd the ideal and companionable one of love- 
ninking. I must, therefore, agree with Mr. Bek- 
>ETT*s proposition, that Milton's meaning of ** tells 
his tale " is, in reality, " counts his flock." 

Shelslet BEAUcaaMr. 

Paris Prisons (S*"* S. L 468.)— La Maine. 
This was the house of the Premier President of 
the Palais de Justice, and in now the Pr^ectute 
de Police. It is near the Ste* Chapelle. 

Le Plessis was formerly a college, known during 
the Revolution under the name of "Maiaon d'Arwt 
de TEgalite," and was in the lu^^^AsicKYXTftisjcA ^V^i^ 


fC'* a IL Atjr,, 22, 71- 

Ste. Pelagie, formerly s, convent of nuns, was 
suppressed at the Revolution of 1789, and aftcr- 
wania cod verted into a prison for debtora. It ia 
in the Rue du Pints rHermite and Rue Copeau. 

Les MjMlelonnettea. These buildings formerly 
belonged to a society of nuns ctdled Les Filles de 
la Madeleine, who devoted themselves to the re- 
claiming of abandoned women. Since the Revo- 
lution of 1789, tbey have been used, first as a 
prison for females, and on their removal to St. 
Lazare, as a temponur prison for men and boys. 
This vuiison d^arrtt is situated in the Rue des 
Fontaines, between the Rue du Temple and the 
Euc St. ^fartin. 

Les Carmes, Rue de Vaugirard, 7iX The church 
still exists, and waa used as a prison in 1792 ; but 
the convent which was attactied to it has been 

St. Lazare. This wa« the ancient convent for 
the LaKariBta, or hospital for leprosy, in the four- 
teenth century. In 1652 it was given to St. 
Vincent de Paul for his congregation of the Pretres 
de la Mission. In 179(), it became *' propriete 
nationale/* and in 1793, a prison. 

The buildings now existmg were constructed by 
St. Vincent de Paul or his successors, and are tlie 
same as the present Prison de St. Lazare, 1(>7, Rue 
dn Faubourg, St. Denis. {Pai-ii Quidf^ by Jules 
Simon, chapters " Lea Ptisona *' and " Les fegliaes 
de Paris " ; Paris Guidf^ by Galignani). Much 
information on the prisons of Paris will be 
obtained by consulting Maxiine du Camp*a Work^ 
Paris, vol. iii., and Les Fruoris de Parts 30U9 la 
Biwdution, par C. A. Dauban. M. Van Ets. 

Medal of Willtam L (5**» S. iL 67.)— It fomis 
No. 1 of Daasier'a Medah of the Kin^s and Qiiecnf 
of England^ so common and well known. 

J. W. Fleming. 


Insulae Accentuations (b^ S. ii, 66,)— In 
conversation with an American the other day, he 
said, speaking of modern "arras of precision/- 
** any soldier now-a-daya failing to advocate some 
sort of protection for infantry, in the shape of 
a narrow iron shieid which tx>uld easily be carried 
in place of a knapsiick, deserved a L Qua tic Asylum." 

M, W. W. 


A Vallohbrosian Nl'n (b^ S. ii, 95.)— The 
order of VaJlis Umbrosa waa founded by St. John 
Gualbert. Of this order, there were houses both 
of men and of women :^** Suntque illius instituti 
plurima monaster ia turn viromm tum virgin um 
in Italia."— Beyerlinck, Mag. Tluaintni Viim 
Humanm^ vol vi., p, lOWL 

An account of the founder may be seen in 
Butler*8 Livu of the ^xnti, under his feast day, 
tfaljr JSL Also J I beL'eve, in Surius, Dc Probaiu 

Sanctorum HuioHu ; the Acta Sanctorum of the I 
Bollandists ; and the Ada Snnctornm ffrdinit] 
Samti Benedicli. In this bookless region, I regret J 
to say that I have no means of consulting tiie| 
hist three. Edwabo Peacock. 

Botteeford Manor, Brigg. 

*' Lis abee's Love Story" (5** S. i. 5£0),publl8he 
in 1865, by Messrs. Hurst & Blackett, was writtei* j 
by Miss Matilda Betham-EdwardR, though issued ( 
anonymotusly, as was tdso Jofm and /, by the Faiue^j 
author, in 1862. Gaston de BEFiVFVAU 


** AuLD Wife-rake '' {5^ S. i. 468) is, 1 bclieve- 
an annual party held in the lake district nt which 
married women of distant dales meet in the Ion 
days of summer, and where, I have read in lo 
papers, they have very plcasitnt gatherings, now, 1 
perhaps, not confined to matrons. Mr. Ferguson 
has " /wLte, a convivial meeting, i>erha[ks frt>m Wcl. 
haig, a crowd." In this sense, the word is un- 
known in other portions of the county, so far aa I j 
know. It is probably an old name revived, tut ] 
I do not remember it in early days. M. 


Whisky (4^ S. xi. 156.)— On the 8th ot June, j 
1723, was formed at Edinburgh the Society ofl 
Improvers in Agriculture, the tirst association of 1 
the kind in the United Kingdom. The Duke of j 
Hamilton moved imd cju-ried a resolution against J 
drinking foreign stutf, ** that thereby the distillin|;C 
of our gniin might be encouraged, and the grcAt | 
sums annually sent to France for brandy, generally 
smuggled, might be kept at home." It thus and j 
then became a point of honour to drink only home- j 
made whisky, which, becoming popular by degrees, i 
acquired the character it hiis long home of Deiii;g' 
pre-eminently " Scotch drink " {GentleniafC^ Maga- 
siTW, August, 1870, art., " The First Agricultniiil 
Society"). J. Mancbl. 

" Bonnie Dundee'' (^^ S. ii, 5.)— That CUTe^ J 
house did not die on the field of Killiecrankie in I 
proved by the fact that a despatch by him, iaj 
which he alludes to his wound, and exi^re.sses hopesJ 
of his recovery, was 'WTitten the dajr after thcl 
battle. This document, says a writer in thei 
Antiquanj, YoL iv. (1873), p, 289,18 now in ibel 
Bodleian Library at Oxford, together with tbcl 
other letters and papers of Naime, King James IL^a 1 
private secretary. It was published in Macpher-I 
son*s Chriginal Paper$t 1775. Scott, in his raic»J 
of a GrandfaUutf says :— 

"Obserring the stand made by the two £r>g1U!ll 
regimeatd, ht gallop«d towardg tho Claa of M««Don«]il«] 
and vflj in the act of bringing them to the chaixe^ wltlrl 
his right »nn elerated, as if pointii^g to the 'w»y <if 
victory, when he was struck by a bullet bencnth thd 
nrmpitf where he wu unprotected by hii cuirnflg. H«| 
tried to ride on, bat being tmable to keep hh Bttddle,! 

fell^ moTUdly woa&ded, and died m the eourt€ of the 

After receiving his wound he waa curried to the 
house of Blair-Athole, about two and a lialf miJes 
ftom the field of battle, where he died the day 
alter. He was buried in the church of Blair ; but 
it is annonnoed in the Antiquary, p. 56 of the 
fiiune yolunie, — 

Some few vears ago a too xealous admirer^ in some 

or other — not yet explained— romorcd the ro- 
maliw to the Scotch Episcopal Chapel at Old Deer in 
Aberdeenshire, where the hero now Ue§, and a stained 
^tflM window in the chapel conunemorat^ the fact." 

Brack's FiciuT€9qu^ Tmirui of Scotland (1873) 
sajTBi — 

*• Not far from Urrard Honte there may he obBorred 
an erect stone in a field on the right hand, which has 
often been pointed out as a rude monument to Dundee. 
More accurate obaerration, ho were r^ ha« assigned a spot 
in the grounds of Urrard, higher up, as the one where 
the hero fell," 

F. A. Edwards. 

•' Kkave" (5«» S. ii. 31.)— Fuller, in hia Churck 
HiUory (1655), book iv, p. 142, says : — 

* About this time, he (Wycliffe) ended his triinilation 
of the Bible into English (afuir copy whereof in Qu€fn'i 
Colledg in Oxford^ and two more in the Unirertity 
Ltbrary) done no doubt in the most expressive language 
of Ihoie dayeSf though sounding uncouth to our ears, 
Tki Kman QfJetut C\riH,for Servant 

The existence of a genuine printed Bible with 
the word " knave " instead of servant has long 
>>een disproved. Wycliffe does use the word 
* Knave -child " for man child, or male childi four 
times in hia veruion — Ex. i. 16, Lev. xii. 7, 
Bed OS, rxxvi. 23, Apoc. xii. 5 ; and " knave- 
children " once — Ex, L 18» but never "knave" for 
' senrimt (see Madden and Forahall's edition of 
Wyclifle*8 Bible). E. K. 


"Favoitr'* (6^ S. ii, 64) ifl used in the aarae 
tense^ ha given by A[r. Blenkinsopp and F. D., 
11] in the north of Scotland generally, — a«j for in- 
stance, speaking of a good-looking man, north- 
[ country people say he is " weel fauitl." E. M. 

"Dkinologt" (5^^ S. ii. 68.)— A book with 
I this title was published in 1789 : — 

•* Deinologj ; or the Union of Reason and Elegance ; 

l^fini? TTjfltn lotions to a Young Barrister; with a Poat- 

ag some Considerations on the Viva Voce 

^ f Witnesses at the English Bar. By 

lloruiiaiat. [Hto. London, Rohiceons, 4*,}/' 

Under **Hortentiua [sic]^ Bup]>08ed fictitious,'^ 
' Dr. Watt mentions an edition, with the same title 
HM above, published in 1801. 

Sparks Henderson Williams. 

Oliver Cbomwell (5"» S. ii. 68.)— The maker 
©f alcoanacs alluded to apjiears to be William 

iDy, a I»eicestershire man (bom 1602, died 1680), 
wIMi tuocofdmg to Stephen Jones'a Bio^raplikM 

^ C 


Dictionary (London, 1805), was consulted l.)oth 
by the King and General Fairfax, and made hLi 
fortune by favourable predictions to both [>artie.'j. 

William Winu. 
Steeple Aston, Oxford. 

" 81NOPLE ** (5^ S. ii. 88) ought to menu red. 
See Andrewa^s Lai.-Eng, Lexicon^ Hofmanni 
Lexicon Universale^ and Chambers's Cyclopaidiaf 
ed. 1738. In heraldry, however, it has come to 
mean verL Both meanings are illustrated in 
Dufresne, Glouarium Medus et InftnuB Latinitatis^ 
ed. l846,»nA voce "Sinopis." Edward Peacock. 

Heraldic (S"* S. ii. 88.)— Jennour of Essex. 
See Papwortha Ordina/ry of British Armorials^ 
p. 640. J* R. 

St. Neot's. 

HusE (5^ S. ii. 80.)— 

'< And a« h€ paaNs torn. " 
He must be a misprint for sJu. In the edition 
published by Messrs. Nelson k Sons, Mr. Mathew 
wUl find it — 

" And as $hi passes torn.'' 

W. J. Macadam. 

*' Guesses at Truth" (5^ S. iL 89.)— U. is, I 
believe, Augustus Hare. I have not now by me 
the "Golden Treaaury'* edition, which is my 
authority for this, and my recollection of it is a 
little fainfc ] but I rather think there U a note in it 
giving the authors* names. 

C. F. S. Warren, M.A 

The Society of Arts' Memorial Tablets 
(b^^ S. ii. 106.) — Certainly Dickens's house ought 
to be marked ; but why la Howth^s house, or the 
site, not marked i Why ia not Sir Isaac Newton's ; 
Turner's, at 47, Queen Anne Street, and 26, Maiden 
Lane; Count EtimfordX At what used to be 
45, Brompton Row, the balconied house ; the 
house where Curran died, 7, Ameliti Place? 
Unless a special fund m mised for the express 
purpose of setting up these memorial tablets, the 
work will never be thorougMy done. 

0. A. Ward. 


[There is a tablet bearinf? Franklin's name on the 
house in Crayen Street, Strand^l 

GiPST Marriage (6*** S. iL 109.) — Eauni 
MirtUa'fi vocabulary required " friends will kindly 
accept this intimation'^ to be paraphrased into 
*' who tells these words to aU Gipsy brethren," 
She wished them to laugh with her, and not to 
laugh at them. FkiUissin is a tmnslation of 
Herreffoard, and signifies a hall or mansion. 

T. Crofton. 

WrATT Familt (5* S. iL 108.)— There hiia 
been a family of this name located for many years 



[5*^ a II. At70. 22, 74. 

at To^enliam, near Moreton-in-Marsh, Gloucester- 
shire. As one (iiinily Mr. Bodhinoton mentions 
is described of somewhere in the adjoimnt» county 
(OxfordBhire), it may chance that there is a close 
relationship between the two, and he might, there- 
fore, be able to find information to farther enlighten 
him from the parish register of the quiet parish 
mentioned above. I know the name is of long- 
standing' thereabouts, both from my own observa^ 
tton and from what my friends have t-old me. 

Dan. Harrisox. 

** Academic Errors/* &c. (d^ S. ii, 109.)— I 
have seen this ascribed to Dr. Valpy, but believe 
it to be the work of his brother, the Rev. Edward 
Valpy, B.D., of Trinity College, Cambridge, who 
Assisted the Doctor in nis educatiomid labours. 

A. G. 

Hattian Pokt (b^ S. ii. 109.)— Thia stanza 
might be much more truly called " beautiful " if it 
were doctrinally correct. ** Simple" it certainly 
is, and in more senses than one of the word ; for 
everybody having the slightest pretent^ion to any 
theological knowledge knows, or ought to know, 
that the souls of the dead do not beconio angels. 
Equal unto the angels they are, no doubt ; but 
that is a thin^ as different as possible. The pre- 
valence of this error is rather renmrkable, Mr. 
Sabine Baring-Gould alludes t« it in the Curioui. 
MytJu (iu 292), where he would give it a heathen 
origin. C. F. S. Warrkj*, MJL 

"The sword wearing out the scabbard" 
^6*>» S. ii. 109.)— In the ApopMh^gmi of EraamuB 
(1542), Book L No. 191, the following is given as 
a saying of Diogenes: — 

" Hauyng » jromig ikitiile^iig of a vcraye wet fuioured 
nnd honest face, v»jng vnhoQ^st communicacion, Art 
ihou not aihwaed. quoth he, to drawe a Swoordc of lead 
out of an ieuorie iheathe?" 

In the some Book the body is frequently idluded 
to as ** a sheathe " and **a peignted sheathe," 

R E. 

Ittak Wslton, in his inimitable ZAfe of George 
H$rheH^ records that *' ho would often say [of him- 
self] * He had too thoughtful a Wit : like a pen- 
knife in too narrow a sheath, too sharp for his 
body.''' A, 

This query immediately suggests to my mind 
the well-known lines in Dryaen's AbsaJom ami 
AchitophtJj in the portrait of Lord Shuflesbuiy : — 
*' A iicry soul^ which working out ite wa^. 
Fretted the pigmy body to decay. 
And o*er-infornied the tenemeiit of clay," 

J. W, W. 

SpTiNG Literature (6«> S. ii. 107,)— 'There is 
a thin 4to. pamphlet^ 16 pp., not included in Mr. 
FoBTSJi'BhBi:—*^CnrmuGia€ialif; m, ikoHng: 


a Poctiml Sxmtf, inscribed to the clnb, '* O^ror 
Euro." " Har.: Printed in the Month of JimaBijy 
MDccLxxrr.*' £^& 

I don't see anything jjoetical in Mr, Foanx^ 
list. There is a short poem, entitled Sha$inf^ 
among the translations in the MiseeUantacf J, 0^ 
IS 18, a privately printed book, by Jiitne« Glasi-^ 
ford ; it ifi thei^e trunHlated and given with I 
original Oursus Glaciixlis of Phil, Frowde« reprints 
from Anglic* Afttsar. AnaltcUi. A. 6, 


Col, TALENTiyi: Waittox (5*** S. ii. 1 " 
papentaj?e of Ck)L Wanton is niiknown. 
Cromwell, CJ,B., appointed liiin heir to ; 
of Sir George Wanton, but probably th^r. \v. ^ . 
blood relationship between them. 

Joseph Kix, MJ), 

8t. Neot's, 

** Les Provinclales ** (b^ S, i 328, 37F,)— Is 
Mr. Williams aware of the fiict that ' Pr. 
Ludov. de Montalto" was Blaise Paiscal hiu 
the author, and not the translatorp of ^ ' 
Apparentl j^ not, for be quotes Watt as n t 
for assigning the first English transL 
person of the former nam© ; whereas 
does is to assi^ the authorship to Dr. l.v^^^, 
being himself ignorant of the real authonhip ifbt^ 
he penned the entry imder that word, tboogb 
he seems to have asoertalned it when he reached 
the word "Pascal,'' The fact is, that Watt sn«l 
Allibone are very unsafe guides, though th^ 
stupendous work they have accomplished (or 
Englidi bibliography makes it appear alauit 
UDgmcious to refer to the vast noniber of most 
with which they abound, 

Gaston de Berneval 


Lord Chatham and Baiuet^ "T>H-noKARf1 
(5«» S. i.448,B14.)— If itwill a^ist ^ 
in arriving at a more proximate dn^ 
of Bailey's UmverMot Etymologic 
tionary^ I beg to state for his inlV 
have a copy of the j^econd edition* in i vo 
published m 1724, which is an earlier edit'' 
either of those referred to by yonr 
or the one in his otsti poss^aioi^ ; 
dedicated to the children of Geom j _ 
and WQhelmina Charlotte. I have wo & 4 
the fifik edition of the second vol., 
lished in 1760. B. 



514; 5"^S. i, 471.)<" 

** I hare long been in search of a passage in Gn«k 
frrlteti parallel to thii proreih, Chn a^iy one saili* 
me I '' 

The following extracts arcs, I think, n^ 
the remarks by which this qmry is accoi 





and the proverb vrhkh. the extracts are adduced to 
illti&tmte is at least aaaiogoua to the one refeored 

•**Ai»do*«roc *Av6pi5irov ^atfiovwVs PJinii loouB 
hue ptrtlii^t, lib. ii. c. 7, Natur. BiMUmxe; Hie eit 

I referendl bcDCiniGrentibus gmtiivm moB, ut 
t&les numinibuB adscribant. Quippc et omnium alionim 
oonuiMi t3L bominnm riftta font montiB. Et Jurernfttis 
\r. 132] Quidm^ntA tibi ffi quia Deus^ &tii similii liitB, 
£t melior fatiB donaret homuucio* Pmvtrhio, ZeaobiL'* 

I Cfr. Juv. X, 365:— 

I ''KttUnni nuoien abest, si ait Prudentia : nos te, 
^ Nob fwimiiB, Fortune, Deam ctcloque locamoi." 
And the notes in loc, by Gifford. ^otfjipotrvvii, 
mens stvmi in cori)oro sano, is the real source of 


Ekolish SuBKAMsa (5^ S. i 262, 330, 352, 

391» 47< »0— Mr, Sala, speaking of the " Macs," 

obeerres — " Thus also from * Thomas ' there him 

L|jrobably dropped off that * Ap,- which is still 

IHIftiiied by a celebnvted living harpist." Kather 

ited than reUiined, for the harpist in ipie^tion 

&e only one of the faanily, I believe, who use a 

I the Ap, The "Ap'' in Wales onJy remuins in tbt 

I c^mjptiona of Ap Kichard = Pritchard ; Ap Hupjh 

I = Pngb, &c., and the harpbt in (question seeniw to 

I tmve wished to foreignize hia pMn name of Thomas 

into ** Aptommaa/' and to be known as "Aptoma/' 

as un-Welsh a word as possible. A. E. 

Groe»wylan, OsfWettry. 

Allow mo to challenge Dil Charkqck's (p, 331} 
incidental identification of the surname Ruhcr 
with Hubert J for which there is no warrant. The 
forroer, equivalent to our Engl isli word "cotter/' 
" Lihe iniiuedinte derivative of " hub " = niansui?, 
I croft or piece of land cultivated for his own 
by a serf- The German historian Vonarx 
' gtat^es that a *^ hub " generally contained from 
i^^rfy to forty acjiea ; if it exceeded fifty, it 
dved the name of **hof" = villa, ^ The 
He Hubert or Hubert us, of immediate French 
pamitAge. though nri;:nni«lly belon^finff to the 
ftnmerous class of Tcutoinc names in "bert," has 
no connexion with the appellative " huber.'' 

C. A* Federer. 

That bieats Akkbo ** (5* S. L 148, 255, 317, 
476.}— " Akebo " is probably a pia<:«, sayings of 
tbe same sort, about towns, kv., not being rare. It 
if, perhapft, Agliabo {Archadh-bo'Caiftniyh)^ in 
9w?m*« (>imty. The name means simply " cow- 
he addition of " Saint Cainnech," to 
lie plncc fmm others of the same 
nai] '" ■\ " ' ^ot of Archadh-bi5, is 

tic^ to have died here in 

5^8. 1 ii». nnd-u jrs ri x i v ing, howevcr, h "That 
bates Bannghcr; and B?»uarrher bate the DireL'' 

n R 


Tkk AcActA (4'^ S, xii pmim ; 6^ S. i. 67, 
1S»7, 316, 457.)— A note in The Ckridian Year on 
the noero for the Fifth Sunday after Eaeter, on 
whici day the lesson is read descriptire of Mose^ 
seeing the bush buminii; with fire but not oon- 
fnimedf mentions that " tne towering thorn Seneh 
is said to be a sort of Acacia. '' Mr, GK>ve, in 
The Dictionary of the Bible, in an article on 
" Seneh," says :— 

"The mime in Hebrew means a 'thorn/ or thora-boili, 
and IB applied elBewbcre only to the momOTuble Ihom oif 
Horob; but whether it refen, in tliis instnneo, to the 
shape of the rc>ck, or to the growth of Stndi upon it, we 
cannot uscertaiu." 

John Picepord, M.A. 

rf owboumc Rectory, Woodbridge. 

Privy Councel Judgment : Liddell tv Wes- 
TERTOK (5*^ S. ii. 128.) — The words italicized 
in the /orm^r quotation, denying the existence of 
the Prayer of Consecration in the aecsond Prayer- 
Book of Edward VI., are entirely at variance with 
the Him pie fact, as any one may see who wUl refer 
to that book. The Episcopal Assessors who allowed 
this misstatement to pass were the late Archbishop 
Siinmer and the present Archbishop Tait. The 
words ita.licized in the sccomi quotation are oa 
astounding fabrication, no such words having 
occurred in the Judgment of the Court. For tlus 
again Archbishop Tait is responsible, as it ocums 
in a book edited under his rlirection when BiBhop 
of London. The former is the true report of the 
** Judgment '* delivered. See a pamphlet entitled 
Lord SdhoTfU^s Letter to tha " TimesJ' B. M. 
Pickering, 1874. F. S. A. 

I believe it is well known that Baytord's is a 
true report of the words actually used by the 
Judges, though (as need hardly be said) they are 
at utter variance with fact, which is as stated in 
the other report. And if this be so, there would 
bo no authority for altering the words in that one. 
Charles S\ S. Warren, M.A. 

purhcates in the british musetjm (4^ s. 
X, 332, 399, 479 ; 6**^ S. I 494.)~A short time 
since I purcba«ed, at a moderate price, Ballard 'a 
Lcanuid Ladiet, 0x1, 1762, 4to. On the back of 
tlie title-page occurs the old Museum preas-niajk, 
** MVSBVM BRlTANNicvM.— Duplicate 1804." 

Waltliam Abbey. 

WooLSTON Well, Wkrt Fklton (5*^ S. i. 449, 
515; ii. 17.)— I Buggefit this well may have been 
dedicate*! to St. Wulfetan, or Woolstan, the Anglo- 
Saxon Bisliop of Worcester at the time of the 
Conquest, and who, I believe| was born in one of 
the Midland Counties. A. K. K. 

Wordsworth axd Hogg (b^^S. i. 143; ii.9.)— - 
Hartley C^:)leridgc used U> t<i\BX^ vv ^'ejsA iSycin ,*^^ 




at Bvdnl Mounts and Wordsworth showed him ull 
tbfi liona of the vicinity. On one of their long 
walkB Hogg got rather tired, on which Wordsworth 
said, " I ff just show you another lake, and then 
well go homewards/' To thifi the Shepherd replied, 
^^ I dinna want to see onny mair dubL Let 'a Atep 
in to the public and hev a wee drap o* whusky, and 
then we ^11 hame ! " Wordswort h used to tell the 
story, and say that at first he was often ded at 
hearing his Ukes called duhi i hut, on reflection, he 
could not take nmbrage— the dubs wa» »o chanxc- 
teryjtic of the man. The Shepherd contrasted the 
small English lakea with the large Scottish ones^ 
and duhs was the natunvl consequence of the 
comparison I 

Another anecdote has been recorded which meritg 
a place in ** N. & Q." It was duringHogg's stay at 
Ryda] that he met with Byron. Byron was an 
inmate at the Salutation Hotel, and one day he 
encountered Hogg propping the doorway of the 
Gmsmere Inn, of which the late Jonathan Boll 
(named in Hone) was then the landlord. It is 
said that Byron, accosting Hogg, said, " Your 
name 'a Hogg, I believe ; my name is Byron. We 
ought to be acquainted !" The story goes that the 
two poets reached their respective lodgings in a 
very queer state. Bid Byron, when he visited the 
l&keii of Westmoreland and Cumberland » ever make 
the acquaintance of Wordsworth ; and, if he did 
90, was the visit aubaequent or prior to the publica- 
tion of The ExcuTtion f N, 

Farob Isles (5"^ S. L 329, 394, 438.)— For a 
recent account of these islands, see T/ie Proceedin^g 
of the Eojfal Geo^a^ical Soeieiyj vol. xviL p. 312. 
EvERARD Home Coleman, 

Brsckaock lUwd, N. 

Haxgijco and Resuscitation (5^ S. L 444 ; 
iL 12.)^l3 Mr. H, a, Kennedy acquainted with 
Southe/B baikd of Ropreehi th& RMcr f It is 
a story of resuscitation ^ter hanging and gibbeting, 
and ia sai^ to be ** founded on fact.** AvihroM 
Gwinndt is an English narrative of the same kEjxd. 
Roprecht had a second suspension, and he richly 
deserved it. Poor Gwinnett was an innocent man, 
and lived long enough after his hanging and 
gibbeting to discover the real culprit and return 
to hb roadside inn a pardoned man. The storj' 
has been dramatized under the title of Ainbrom 
Omnmtt ; or, the Munkr at tht Roadside Inn. 
I forget the date of Gwinnett^s trial and execution. 
James Henry Dixon. 

Btron : Wtcrerlet, &c. {b^ 8. i 164, 256 ; 
ii* 31.) — Twice lately by your correspondents has 
the fine quotation from Wycherley— I weigh the 
man, not his title : Ws not the king^a stamp can 
make the metal better or heavier "—-been referred 
to The Country Wift as ita source. Some time 
a^ (P^ 8. xii. 25) I gave the true reference in 

full. Let me repeat that it is part of a apeech hj 
" Manly " in Tfc» Plain Dcal^, Act i. sa I. ■~* " 
name alone of this play ought to he a sofficie 
reminder of the place of the quotatioxL There j 
nothing at all idtin to it in Th€ Ctmntry Wift, 

W. A, C. does not quote correctly. What ] 
singer says is as follows : — 

*' But in our Saaaz&rro 4ii not to, 
He beiDg putt and tried gold ; and anj ttAmp 
Of gr*ce, to miLkc him c^rrtni to the world. 
The Duke i« pleased to gire hiia, will add bonotir 
To the great bestower; for he, though allowed 
Companion to hi< maater, *titi pruervtt 
Hia majesty in full /lufre.** 

W, A, C. in closing his quotation with the word 
"honour," in the fourth line, entirely alters the senm 
of the passage. I confess that I am also in fauk in 
having misqiioted " bestower " as ^'poeseffior," aa 
thin perhaps may have misled W. A, U*^ aad catLsed 
some confusion. What Massinger reallj^ says is in 
effect just what Bums says t — 

" The rank la but the guinea's stamp. 
The man 'e the gowd for a" tliat" 

T. ALacoRATE. 



The Letters and the Life of Fraficu Bocofi. 
eluding all his Occasional Works, namely, 
Letters, Speeches;, Tracts, State Papers, Me- 
morials, Devices, and all Authentic Wrttinci 
not already Printed among his Philosophical, 
Literary, or Professional Works. Newly Col- 
lected and set forth in Chronological Order, 
nith a Commentary, Biographical and His- 
torical, hy James Spedding. VoL VIL (Long* 
mans & Co.) 
HsRE is a noble work nobly ended. Mr. Sped- 
dinj^ may any with pride, as the old poet ta^d, 
"Exegi monnnientnm.'* If Mr, Spedding went 
forth, after writing the last word in this volume, 
as Gibbon did after the accompliahment of \m 
great undertaking, under a mingled eensatiou of 
joy and of regret, — ,joy that the task was done, 
regret that such accomplishment had terminated 
one of the proudest purposes of his laborious life,^ 
the editor of Bacon was fully justified in so doing. 
The amount of new matter of Bacon's own com- 
position in this volume amounts to about forty-one 
pages. To this it may be added, that " Elsing's 
notes of the debates in the House of Lords ha?e 
enabled me," says Mr. Spedding, "to throw some 
fresh light upon the personal history of Bac-'n"- 
imijeachment ; and the exi>osition of their pii 
ceeding as a Court of Justice in i i — 
which has not been attempted befoi 
to have an important bearing upon tfie aispuutoi** 
points in his case, some of which are rtrj 




malemL" Mr. Dixon, in liia PerKmal HUtortj of 
Lmd Bacon, had onJy the Lords' JoumftlR to go 
by, but thcae "tell us nothing of what passed in 
committee, except the remilt qa embodied in the 
Bubaeqnent action of the Honse." The notes are 
▼ciy brief. In the instractions for the grave cir- 
comstADCe coming on (when Bacon was expected 
to b« preaentX we find the Sergeant directed " to 
cany ais mace, and to show it him, but not to 
tsriT it before him, as he did when he had the 
8eaL'' Tbe propoaal of Sheffield that Bacon should 
be declared incapable " hereafter of any office of 
judicature or councillor's place** was "well liked 
ot" It led to Southampton's queation, "Whether 
be whom thiB House thinks unfit to be a constable 
ahall come to the Parliament '^ ; and it was agreed 
thai " be never come to the ParHament again*" 
TbeM and similar passages in the notes bring the 
aeme Tiyidly before us, and^ a^ Mr. Stiedding 
lanarkiy **we gain from them a tolembly clear 
idea of the manner in which this important de- 
nberation was transacted." In amnming-up Bacon's 
Quality, chamcter, and conduct, Mr, Spedding 
tiunks that Bacon himself would have been con- 
tent witb the judgment contiiineii in the following 
lines of Sir Henry Taylor's hcuic Cmmumis: — 
" Yet 11 he p in iad truth, a faulty man. 
la tlavitli^ tyrannouji, and turbulent titnea 
He drew his lot of life ; and of the times 
Some deep and bloody stains have fallen ui>on him. 
Bat, be it B&idj he had this honesty, 
That undesiroui of » false renown. 
Ha aver wiihed to pus for what be wis ; 
Ooe Uiat swerved much »nd oft^ but being still 
Pelibentely bent upon the right, 
Had kept it in tbe main * one that much loved 
Whatever in m&n is worthy high respect, 
And in bis soul devoutly did aspire 
To be it all ; yet felt from time to time 
Tbe littleness that clings to what is human, 
And suffered from the shame of having felt it." 

This judgment may not be acceptable to those 
wb(> think Bacon all guilt, or to tho«e who hold him 
Ui be entirely innocent, but it probably hitsi the 
troth exactly ; and it is not less trtie in sentiment 
it is noble in expreasion. 


mrt or St. Johw of JsausjiLait.— K. Z, Z. wishes 

to record that an investiture of knkbts of the above 
ordar took pUce in the church of Sonnenbur^, on St. 
Jfilin's da>. After marches, processions, feasting, &c., 
the following ceremony was observed:— "Tlie knights 
who w«ro to rrceive tbe Accolade came forward now, 
kd bj ih*i tT%i marshal, at their bead, the Grand Duke 
af Mecktenbur^-Schwerin, to tbe throne of the Herron 
Jitiftvr, who a«ked in a clear loud voice--* What is your 
imtnV — to which the unanimous answer was returned 
—'To have the honour of being received as knights of 
juailca Into the Baillnijc of Brandenburg, of the Order 
ef Saint John of JeruSaJem.' The Herrcn Meister 
(f^rtnea Karl of Prussia) replied— * The reception is 
^rafitad ■«> yoQ> if you promise to obey tbe laws of the 
cyfte* and to conduct yourselves as true knights/ The 
Banan Mdater then stepped in front of the altar steps, 
taair lb« nakad sword from the Captain of the Order, 

and touched with it, according to ancient custom , the 
shoulder of tbe knight kneeling on a footstool before 
him, saying, * Better knight than squire.' Then followed 
the iuvestituro, Tbe ineignia of the order, the white 
enamelled cross, with the gold eagles between the limbs, 
and flurmouoted bv a gold crown, suspended from a 
black ribbon, and the black silk mantles, with the large 
white cross on the left shoulder, were banded by the 
psges to the a»aisting commanders, one of whom banded 
tbe croM, whose eight points typify the eight bcurtitudes, 
to the Prince, who placed it rotind the neck of the 
knight. Tbe other commander invented blm witb the 
mantle, whose oolour typifies the camel's-h«jr garment 
of tbe Baptist, as the white cross does purity of heart. 
The Herren Meister then drew together the corda of the 
mantle, which symbolise the cord with which our Saviour 
was bound for ui. Then followed the vow, which was 
read by tbe secretary, and repeated after him by the 
knights. After which each gave his baud to tbe Herren 
Meister, the Chancellor, and the Commanders, as a tciti- 
mony that he would maintain a contest against unbelief^ 
would coasidar the care and relief of the sick as the 
duty of a Knight HospitiJIer, and that as a true knight 
he would wage constant war against the enemies of the 
Chmxh of Christ, and the disturbed of the peace of God 
and man. The Ilerren Meister then pronounced the 
words, * I wish you the blesini| of God, health, and pros* 
perity '; and tbe * Te Deura' having been sung, the pro- 
cession returned to tbe castle, where a State dinner, 
given by the Herren Meister, concluded the day/' 

"Local Orioik of the 'Retrosfectitk Review.' — 
I l&iel^ mndo a note of the followini; item, which E 
found in a smaJl volume consisting of a collection of 
literary papers, &c., originally nublithed in tbe Afaa- 
ektster Bxc^iun^t Herald in lol5 and 1S16, the con- 
tributors being a society of local gentlemen. The book 
in <|ti6Stion, which is in the library of William Booth, 
Esq., of Combrook, is entitled Bihltographianjii, and waa 
printed la 1817 by Joseph Aston, Xo. 14, St. Ann Street, 
only twenty *four copies being printed. Tbe fly-leaf 
contains the following pencil memoranda : — * The Rdro* 
sptctive RevUro originated from this work. This society 
was instituted by the late Mr, ^V\ Ford, bookseller, and 
was held in his establishment in St. Ann^s Square. 
All the articles signed M, IK (the final letters of his 
name) (tic) were written by him/ * Copies of thii 
little volume are now esttremely scarce, and &re likel^ 
to remain so, ns they are only to be found in the collec- 
tions of a few noblemen nm^ gentlemen who g^vc very 
ej^travftgant prices for them to Trip hook, Thorpe, kc, 
of London. — J. Ford.' The worthy President of the 
Chetliam Society, whoso tiame as a contributor to the 
Retrotpectivt Etv%€w has been omitted by Lowndes, 
could perhaps say aomeUung about the above note. 
I observe that Mr. Grosstey makes a commendatory 
reference to Bihliographiana in a foot-note in bis essay 
on FoUer's Holy SiaU (vol iii., p. 51). I may add, thnt 
tbe Free Library copy of the Review contains in writiiuc 
the names of many of the contributors, the late W. J. 
¥QXt E^q., M.P.for01Jham,bcin§ amongst the number/' 
— JoBN fi. Bailet, in *' Local ^otes and QaerieSj'* the 
Manchatfr Guardian. 

AaacoRiAt Book-plates. — Dm. HowARn (Dartmotith* 
Row, Blackheath) writes: — ''I have many duplicates 
which I wish to exchange/* 

The BAaoavTcT or pAVKt— An anonymous corre- 
spondent notifies to us the deaths recently, of Sir 
Coventry Payne, Bart This gentleman, of ancient 
descent, was one of two claimants to the hereditary title. 
The other, Sir Saltasbury GilUas Payne, asserU that his 
late rival was debarred by ilkfjvtA'taa^l vn. ^>&ft Xvf»a \vnsv 



[S«^ an. Aero. 22, 74, 

vrhicU he descended. The P&ynea lire numed by Orderi- 
ous Vitiklif. THe name htm gone through the fonxu of 
PftgAimflf Fajen, Payu, and Fa^me ; and the old Xomuui 
family is weU represented in the rt^spective clftimants in 
Engiud M well «a in l^armAudy, 

MlSPBnrtS. — Our respected contemporary, the Jievu^ 
MiMiogtupku/ue UnhtrtdU^ says : " A new romance by 
Lady Georgiana Fullerton (and not Chatterton, as the 
Athmmtm printed it) ia m the prees." After this eor^ 
rectton, the Remte announces the title of the novel as 
On Hi WloMl! 

LA9CAtiTn!E.-'ThG iame Eivn^, In a notice of the third 
and fourth volume of the Cortttpondanca dt Lninarttiu, 
points out the errors in jp*&mmar which this elegant 
irritcr continually committed; und which h]3 editor has 
thought fit to leave uncorrectt'd in this edition* Hero 
are some sjimpiea: — ^' Jg no t'envcrrai pour ma soldo de 
cette aBn6e que 700 fr. {IIL 221); si j &i deux jours d 
disposer (III. 308) ; c# Florence . . . eiU m'etonno (III* 
354) ; ma femme gouU beaucoup et ut Irii-ijotUte par la 
princesse (III. 36<A ; une pcrsonne qui nVst ni Fmi^-ai* 
ni ItalUn jIII. 37o) ; chtrts dfieombres (IV. C) ; je vous 
prC'vientirtti, si jo U saistIV* 57) ; tii?otr reit^ {IV* 246) ; 
j'ai fiiu dt but a rkti (1 v. 837) ; la society tt&rii s%r nous 
(IV. 347}j &c. Un ^ammoirieni" adds the Mevue^ 
'^triplerait cette liste de ^olecismest en y joigoant de 
harou barbarismes, comme rewLplat^abU, mt^mjMntt 
emphyahU, duxrboit d4 pium, imprhtayalt4" &c. 



P»ttl<mlftn of Price. A<j.» of «f«7 book tA b« mdI difwf t« 
th« p«rtoA bj wbum It li rtq,ulrM, wbost naaat uad wldrfiw are 
SlTtn tot that parpoM — ~ 

BuTiut AuujrACK AXD Covr^a iom, \$sst, iSaO, IB^L, lS33t 1S34. 
Caxdcji SoctKTT^ Prrjinptorium Parvuloruni. Vols, II. uad III, 
STMOstv**! DiatT of M&tgJic* uf Ro^ Armj. 

Wanted by Xdmxrd PMcodt, Botttafond Slanor, BxUm, 


A PlottLTecquc Toot through Hollands BMkb(uit» aad Part of Plwac«* 

PMajreviac Vlewvon tbcRirarThAinoa. s tuli, 
Tb« Plel.m-««iiuo Beauties of t}u» \\ arwielcsbira Avon. 1 vol 
_ 9!b« P{e(ari!«qa« BcaatlM of th« Rl?«r Btvarti* 
ISlie PtQtu]-e«qaa BflvaliM of ilit Blrcr Wjt, 

ParticuUr* may b« fent to W, S, HfmitU^ Kirton in LindMy. 

SonatV VkJotiutUs vf Fkmltlet. 
0craai^ Bsottiuv of tbi PMnce. 

Waated bj Bm, ilmrv AtupiUimJ^hmAont KJlmoro, 

Otrn CoKRESFONDiNTS mil, tce trv4ty <xcus€ our sug- 
ffuting U> them, both for thdr atUees (w vkU a* onr own — 

That thty should writt deari^ and disttHdlj^ — and on 
one aide of the paper only^morit espteially prtjper noinos 
and words and pniaaei of wAi*cA eii» txvmnation mav b€ 
required. We eanmoi underiaki io pumi oni rchat a Car- 
rupi^iMUni dots 7wt think vvrth the troubU of nfriHnf; 

OoLOitrEitsis. — Amongst the many good works being 
elated by Dean b'tauley in WǤtiiiinBter Abbey are the 
gradual replacement throu^ho<at the church of the 
gravestones— notably, Sir Isaac Newton's— that were 
removed at the beginning of this century^ and the re- 
catting of inscriptions tl^t have been obliterated by 
wear and time. Coursyei'B grave is itois^. marked \ the 

muiml tablet close by, howefer, haa perhaps eaoaped the 
notice of ottf corpespondont. The inscnpiioiji on "*^- 
former is— 

Pierre Francois Le Coniayer 

Bom at Rouen in Normaiidy 

November 17» 1€S1 

Oanon of the Abbey of g Genevieve 

Author of '* A Iiistortation 

In Defence of the Validity of English Ordinatiom ** 

Died October 17- 1776 

Aged 95 

D. h. — liatnpflond was originally called Hi_, 
the old way of spellin}? Homestead. The prt-sent 
which it is souglit to remove, h;iLiei no connexion « 
with the reign of Que- 1 " t only dates from 
The inoroo&ing neMs h require am onl 
church. As, then, the \^\ lin^ is extremely, 
without a vestige of antiquity about it^ we can wT 
understand the opposition that is now offered io 
tuting a really grand church, whose lofty spire " b^ , 
be a landmark, and indeed worthy of the ma^m&oenii 
crowning position to be occupied. 

E. Truelovb. — Our corrcs|)ondent adds his 

to a fact already established, as to the sex of 
Chevalier d'Eon, who so long passed for ft woman. Xl 
Truelove states that in 1610, toon alter D*Bon'f deadkp 
he saw and examined this mysterious ohatteter ; a&d be 
asks for information conoemiog any Ufa of this oust 
famous adventurer. 

TiKTiLLEEiESL— Voltaire himself has sidd that Frenoh* 
men were represented for the first time in Freoek 
tragedy in hi* oivn iTtiirr,— alluding, of cottrse, to thi 
characters of Luslgnan and Nerest&n. 

J. G. — We cannot give an opinion on the legality, Of 
othorwise, of wills. Of the one now se&t, we cau only mj 
that it would delight most lawyers, and dissipate Ibo 

J. n. C— Tlie ballad Thi Farmtr'* Son ond lh§ iWj 
Gay is printed iu ChappeU'a well-known volumea, aMl 
still sung in country parts. 
O. L.- 

" Thoughts that breathe and wordf that bum.*' 
G^y. I*fvi/r*jM of Poeif, 

F. R. S, V ^ ' 
Mud ford, I? lOTtll 

k Lady op the Prf^kkt Cebtcry ^ould have btr 
query answered by writijig to Lord Boktby, Him 
Montagu's representative. 

Q. h. — It i& the ha ha that tsihe sonkeit pari. 
fence (as at Delaval Hall and elsewhere) is abote 
The term ia common. 

A. II. writes:— "*D0velov^"^"< t fi,e Prosi.' — ^! 
Oivftslrif JliTold was discoiili 

.M. T.— There is no use j 

H. A. B.— Forwarded to Mr. Thorns. 

Editorial Communications should be addrawd lo ^ TIm 
Editor "--AdvertiBementft and Bnsinots Letten to ^T 

Publisher "—at the Office, 20, Wellington 8tr«et, tit 
London, W.C. 

We beg leave to state that we decline to retu 
municationB which, for any reuoD, we do nol j 
to this role we can make no exception. 

To all cownpunieations ahould be affixed the nutie and 
of the sender, not necesianly for pttbUeatiODi I 

a guarantee of good faith. 


to ua reriewfl < 

. Ana. 29, 74] 



W^mX, SATfTRDA r.AVQVST ». 1«7«, 


Spaniac lUf onos. No. V., '. 
Jung*- liKi— li*bel And Uizn 

GONTExxa— N* as. 

i. to 4 
s —The 

liiuf BUiiop— A BilrAcl« la lo,>' 

FInl &u(Llili Locomotive ia Kew York, 100 — Fandlel 

QUKRira:— llerrinit-Couiitijig— Tliis two Thie¥6» jU CAlvary 
-'*'Th« Bird's N«t "— Fly-Le»f luH'riptionJ— " Dramclog/' 
"^ »B0 Clera mad De BratMe Faaiilic<^— Abbes«eii of BliftrteA- 
' -Tom Qnsd ftt Chruit Church—" Ftoatit, and tdhvi, 
I J«ani "— DuUUn Tivam* -^ JUdajue RoUkd — ** Pm» 
'•—Vox W*nj»^-^Eoiurta Coin, Itii— Dkkaiui** **B4ttle 
o"— "Tooth aod J£«g "— Jetferson Davti— "Ood ble** 
^k •*—• • K«aelmChiLUQgljr "— " Eenttej v oua " — Aa Old 

SLEFLIES:— Tlie**GftniiAKiiQlc'' l(K»»Tha Do Qnindi, Earli 
or Win ton, 170— Saojr&n'i ConiMen And Predeceasom, 171^ 
Tli« Suu-Flower — Svippo«ed Pricstlj Gni«Uj, 1T2 — The 
Tem^vLuT anct HosyiUliert— John f'hTirchill, M.I\ — '^Mf 
ch»lM ib« vUU^e iDO did gal " '^' 'nngCoal't Lavf'C— 
' Tl*» Hiiu*e4 of StuArl ao^J — " atro«l " ^ The 

fj^woeb Wotxi •'Yeiix'-Tl! Stiit<^, ITI-Goa- 

fe— Pocxn by T. K, HtrvLV^.-iiii > " ^ • " -Pri%ry 
III Judjinent—** Christianity a.* Oli} 4:c. 

I Emperor Akxioder 11,— Mafv of : J'ft— 

le Batxifti, ITti—Hyrfid's "SiciJi^ <it (_t>iii;ith"— 
-MAnntoD Herbert— Eancke llidera— bird Ool- 
ITT- '* YfcOge MoO'Uy "— " Piui "— *' Xewlyn "— 
• tworf*— '* AU'i over/' &c«— Rohert de Wyclif— 
•'W^iBtr l7«-Pr.WAtt»— OoMm CQl-Pox^Mr. Froudc'i 
"Hkiory/* 179. 

llotii an BaokB, kc 


In Basil Montai^iis Works of Lord Bacon^ 

foL IT,* facing title, is an engraved portrait of hira, 

' \ ftge of dixty-five, aa Montagu tells m in an 

iiUf notice at the conimenceinent of vol. ii. 

that chaotic edition. It is £roin a painting 

Van Somer,— /*«!</, I suppose, for I do not 

lovr whether his brother Bernard ever came to 

lagland. It deem* to be a fine likeneKj^ and tine 

|ft8 a work of art, thouf^h, perhaps, a little 

His portrait of the firat Earl of Devonshire, 

Kworth, is mid to be eijual to Vandyke's. 

rjorlr^it does? not appear to nie to be taken 

rof sixtV'five, as stated bj Bits LI Hon- 
would be more like fifty-two or fifky- 
C:in Linv retvder of 'VN. & Q." say where 
\v 18 ? Van Somer generally dated 
tiLs tx>riraits ; if so, this rather iui- 
sn might, be conclusively settled. 
r pnssea adds more and more im- 
n^ connected with, the life and 
icon. The attribution to him 
l*laya, a* the rn*ji^mU, or, at any 
irce of them, h growing up into 
' ' ' Uentiou is drawn to 
1 do not lit nil 

refined and noble features of a Shakspeare " ; does 
he speak of the Chandos portmit, the Stratford 
buHt, the fancy thing in the Abbey by Koubiliac» 
the mask from the German rag-shi>p, or what I I 
have always taken the Junsen bust, at Stratford, 
for the only authentic one, and the result of 
physiognomical criticism applied to thiit is that it 
was modelled from a posthumous cast— that the 
nose is Biniply ridiculous in its want of proportion. 
It is a hop-o'-my-thumb nose ; a very abortion 
and abnormity, phiced as it is in cJoi*e juxta- 
position with the frightful and giijantic upi>er lip. 
The moustache i^ moi^t artistically treated ; it is 
shipped like a mouth, and is phtced where the 
mouth ought to be. The mouth below is a small 
mouth ; but, whenever I look at this face, I feel 
persuaded thjit Malone performed quite un art- 
service to the world in daubing it all over with 
white. Get any artist to re-colour one of the 
masks liir us, and I doubt not but the whole will 
become absolutely liideous, so ihigrant is the dis- 
proportion. The skull in large and well-shamm 
enough to satisfy all requirements. Assuredly, 
however, if I were asked whether the Van Somer 
portmit or the Jansen bust stood nearer to the 
man to whom was due the miraenlouK coinage of 
the plays, I should decide for the man of the por- 
trait. Has it ever been .stated, surmised, or au^- 
Rented how it came about that Jan^en^ one of the 
tu-st jirlists of his tiuie, was ever empkyed upon 
the uiortmiry bust of the cs-manager of ** the 
Globe," who bad settled down, for aome years 
pre\'iously, into a Warwickshire farmer? This 
appears to me, like all the rest, paasing strange. 
As the subject is thus raised, I may be allowed to 
record for what it i» worth, no thin <j or something, 
m the reader shall please, a kind of conviction 
tliat has always itself upon me whilst read- 
ing the plays, that there wjis a very noticeable 
duality throughout them ; thiit the plot^ con- 
st rue tion, story, and philosophic universality of 
knowledge and of mind betokened one type of in- 
tellect, whilst the other type belonged to a poet 
proper, as phrase-maker to the multitude. Let 
othera contradict this, as, of course, they wiU ; 
but I shall stand to it till I change my nature, and 
with it the convictions that Hpring from it. It 
apf>ears to me alwaya a moat prodigious absurdity 
in modem criticism to insist, as Schlegel sind all 
do, on the constructive faculty which distinguishes 
the really great poet from tlie minor poet, the 
lyrist, &c. Coleridge b equally absurd ; Km 
intuition often saved him from such error, but 
not in this. Invention and creation are indeed the 
poet's faculties, but not in the ^ense of construct- 
ing anything, nor of building up a total out of 
consecutive acts, of pre-cahailatiDg reason, nor the 
piecing together of all t V , ' * ^ ' ^ M *> 
on a subject andbuil* -^ 

plot OUtj 

lady wliat waa the momt of Chrutahtt^ he replied, 
'' Miidnm, I did not know that it wanted ii moniL" 
The fact is^ it has none, and, still worse, it has no 
purpou whatever ; hut it is one of the Diost 
uniqae bits of real poetry in the whole worlds for 
all that. It thrills a competent refider in every 
fibre with its pathos, its weirdness, its dream- 
jMJT^er, its refined aerial melody, which wakens up 
the hidden things, remote and near^ lying dormant 
in the wide and diflTiised province of the soul 
itself. It is the sublime gift and felicity of 
words that does this. A poetic soul vibrates 
lan^age so as to awuken movements in a kin- 
dreS aoul that the word*, as words, appear not 
cjilculated to reach out to, nor to toudi. 

If Scott, who waa no jjoet at all, as I reckon 
poetry, could have worked with Coleridge i\& a 
narrator and thrcad-fumisher, there would have 
been nothing since Shakspeare'« Plap, Goethe 
not excepted^ equal to the birth-iKsue of that 
marnage act. I fancy this was known in the 
bd^ht Elizabethan day when young thought burnt 
^ divinely clear, and that Beaumont and Fletcher 
tried to accommodate thenu^elves to a then recog- 
nized necessity, as Sijakspeare and some other one 
had before them actually succeeded in doing. 
Bacon, I should think, did not write the Plays ; 
Shakspeare, I should tliink, did not conslruct the 
Plays, But that the one fiirnished the matter, the 
thread* the catholic knowledge, and mucli of the 
large, cool, reasonable phiIoKoj>hy to be found in 
them ; whilst 81i^kspeare gave the melody ; the 
phmse-making was his, the vibratorj'^ words* and 
all the passionate things that hang libout and arc 
suggested by them. If minute examination can 
plausibly introduce Bacon as the male genninator 
tit these marvels^ whilst Shaksiieare enwombs them 
plastically, then all who can endure uiy view wiil 
be prepared to cordially accept the new thcon\ 
and find a hitherto inexplicable wonder si tuple. 

One word more. Burns ciinnot construct, yet is 
he a giant poet. Byron cannot construct. Swin- 
burne says he is no lyrist ; I say he is nothing 
else, and the greatest of them, not, perhaps, alto- 
gether in the narrow sens© of perfect song and 
perfect ode writing, but in the large sense a 
sublime singer to the universal l}Te, which, great- 
gifted as he is, Mr. Smnburne himself will never 
be. Homer is not constructive. He Utisbes a SfK) 
year old tale : the backbone ribs and all set fonus 
are given him. Milton constructs nothing, or very 
little : the Bible famishes to him his bone frame, 
Dante has no plot nor plan, no preached-about 
grand construct iveness. He takes a supernatural 
walk with Virgil, and inscribes about its path, as 
he goes, incidents sublimely felt and softly melo- 
dizedj like notes floating forth from the harp of the 
golden sun-god. Harper of Harpists, incidents 
in the shape of liard beliefs and square-cut mis- 
beJiefs, There crosvd into his poem fill the super- 

stitious folk-lore fairy dreams of the strange, \ 
igtiorant, mediaeval, Romano- Crothic, bhie-ciirtai^ 
Italy he dwelt in and loved so well. The 
tualism of all the Church phantoms and doe 
dreams, and the concrete devotlnnn! fnncirs r>f 
pctpulace, and the whole ph ! 
book-lore of his time, with 1 1 1 
mental sui)en\dded, he invvi?uvc^ in tUiis 
sublimest chant of the saddest and loftiest ch 
that ever lifted a hymn devout of praine to j 
great Witness who looks down in sorrow tm i 
vast drama of man's misery below. If By 
Milton, Homer, Da ntt%Cijnstruct nothing, bttt< 
vibrate in imlaon to the harmony of the sph 
and tjo convey to us the baser- born, ns prop 
might and vaticinators, some tiiste of M*" ^*' 
God as it pealed through their ear 
think I Khali not gre.^tly di lu-nt* 
sspeare if I despoil him of tli 
his plots and his material | 
him amid the glorious corop;iny of master 
through all time — the men who cntwn :•:• 
and burn for ever after with an it 
because that in their day their ear wli 
and their heart was bold to utter, wi 
could, or, being able, dared sum U|' 
Canticle of Canticles, C, A. v> 



As our old dreamer is again up " ' 
haps you will allow me a worti or i 
his famous book Much ha« been o., 
the originality of the PibjHuis Prth! 
though the author deeku'es''T:^ Jl m^ 
will persevere with their i 
trary, and the inspired tinki i 
sole invention of his matchless oiiegory. ^ 
swelling the cry of detraction, if one of t! 
dates for a share of the honour will hen: 
ill its favour, it is, I think, Th^ TabUi oj 
has been mentioned as probably supply jti. 
to Bunyan. The Greek origimd was, of » 
sealed book to him, but it became avail 
161t>, when John Heoley's translation y^-. 
lishcd \ and it wjis upon the sop| 
little book might have ffillen m 
the late George Dfibr made his 5.I 

Bunyan's biographer, ht^wevi 
been unaware that the well-knov. 
Kidwelly, publisdied in 1670 a ti 
and as his works were pnncii);rJl 
the people, this was not i 
into Bunyan s hands. If in 
copy of his £pictdu« and 
folding ** piece of sculpture )| 

kst, entitleti ''An Embleme, 01 
Humane Life," he will, I think, 
with the probability that it had cume uni 
eye of Bunyan. 

5"» a. a. Aco. 29, 7^.] 



The picture ^liBplays a roc'ky eminence, divided 

I niM ; at the base the rising genera- 

It nil towarda a ^te presided over by 

^ijc^niy ' , who offers licr intoxicuting 

^lilet to > a*4 they pjiss through ; while 

r oil III. I irln^ a veritable evangelist in 

^ ttnce, is ittjl r the crowd to be temperate 

^fr Ht-^ii,r},i tji (>lc;v.-ure. Once inside, we find 

1, with a second wicket, in the up- 

Li, at which stands Genius ngain, 

ting im open bi:K>k, towards which only few 

jare wending their way, the bulk having 

de on their first entrance to the by- 

ing to variouK forms of vice. The next 

itflBf^li^nt •'hows the same passing away to the 
faroad Toaih on the part of the ruuUitude, and the 
«un« iptttisity of pilgrims holding on towards the 
otxt ascending: wicket ; the nigged obstructions of 
tlb« way are l»erp indacing a reirognide movement 
unotii:; the faint - henrted, while fewer resolute 
- ^ nglj marching' on their 
I picture, with the a^aist- 
i.,T.i,ii> i..,u.l. is Been surmounting a 
My,' and finally attaining the summit 
rivt d by True Doctrine, conducted 
urn, and there cfowned. The 
DA, who reach the goal, are the 
of Banyan's Christian heroes, in their 
__ garb ; one, indeed, with the porten- 
t ** burden upon his back," is defending himself 
L the AtLacka of an enemy* 

PtlgTiTn^i ProffTc^ was not printed until 

7% while BaviR*^ Cche^ appeared in IC70. If 

i hiid taken this suggestive book into prison 

a m'uiii like his, pondering over the 

and it* accompanying text^ might have 

been brought to the practicability of re- 

and christianizing the old heatlien'ss em- 

and, if »o, the masterly way in which the 

tl.-A it out and adapted it to hispuqiose 

uim in claiming this imperishable 

all bb own.^* 

Alexander Gardtke, 


now ptt?3ed in renew aome 2,2(h> words 

ly, a thirtl of the words in ordinary une. 

reforms have been the reduction of ex- 

generail rules, and in no instance hnve 

' " • e dogmas kid down for 

lilrni ; 


tlmt between 

- ^njst be done to 

iiated und un- 

le were canrie«l 

would remain 

.>i not be more 

lalfout and hibm'. 

'% Ncvtiung mu^t be done to make etymology 

more intricate and obscure. In every Cftse but 
one, we have pleaded for the restonition of wortls 
to their etymological ranks. The one exception Lh 
the abolition of the suffix -i6Zc, as -able will do oh 
well, and the present distinction is n delusion and 
a snare. 

3. Nothing must 1>e done to make the task of 
learning to read more laborious and perplexing* 
All the reforms proposed would render the task of 
reading, as well as of spelling, easier, by removing 
exceptions, the great stumbling-stone of learners. 

W e are, no doubt, a learned nation, and have 
undertaken to educate the entire population ; our 
literature is sec4:>nd to none in the world ; we arc 
extremely sensitive about our cla9,«?icjil tiistes, and 
no dictionaries make so great a point as ours of 
giving the derivation of words : but, with all thi^, 
our spelling is atrocious, and, strange to fitiyj is 
worst in those very points in which we pride our- 
selves the most. We am not open a dictionary at 
random, but some anomaly stares us in the face. 
Let us try : — " Resistance," from the Latin 
rcJtiitcna; then why not '* Resistense *' t " Ossicle,-* 
from the Latin ossicnlnm ; then why not "Ossi- 
cule " ? ** Mantle,** Saxon mirntd^ German 
mantel ; then why in the world should the word be 
trdmnwgrifytd into ** Mantle " i " ExERCiSAnLE,'* 
Latin cxtrcirt. "Flotaqk," French Jlottagt. 
** Floor,'' Ang.-Saxon Jfore. ** Florist," French 
fl^uri^tc (flower being the French fleur); then 
why not Jloioer and flowrritt f And so on, by 
scores Mid hundreds. If any one were now to 
attempt to introduce 4 word wrongly derived, 
scholars would set their faces against it like a flint ; 
yet make we no effort to f»tirge from existing words 
the leaven of solecism and barbarism, but rather 
stand up in its defence, aa a mother ifor a rickety 
child. But now to Hecuba. 

Wkit I would bring under notice in this paper 
are the suflixos -ant in connexion with -mt, -anrc 
in connexion w^ith -enrf, and -anse in connexion 
with -tn**\ Let us see if something cannot be 
done to simplify this six-fold difficulty. 

There are 256 words terminating in the suffix 
-ant, and nearly 70fi in -ent ; 219 endmg in -anccy 
and 226 in -cticf; 1 in -anst^ and 6 in -etue. 
Altogether 1,508 words. The one in -anse is 
e/i(rfl?if<:, w^hidi is now generally written with a 
c, and ought at once to be brought back again 
(French trame). 

The six in *€iuc arc ro ' ^ ^«0i dupfriH 

(dispenso), upcnsi, (expei i t inmexisus), 

prfpm«<r (pne|>endeo, thi^ mjuim , ;mii rccti'mj^ensc 
(re — compenso). It will be Hcen at a ghuice tlint 
the termination 'tfi»e in all but one of tbcse wordn 
k radical, aud cannot be touched ; not so the 
r in word^ ending in -encc. This might be changed 
to J, and, indeed, *boidd be so* A few examples 
will suffice for proof, *' Acquiescence,** why not 
ac^iiiwcCTW (acquiescens) ] « " 

'Adolescence" vi\x'% 



[5'-»8.n. AC0.1B.7il 

[not adolescttiu (adoiescens) ? " Cadence" fcadens), 

[''coalescence" (coaleacens), "decencc'* (decens), 

I " effloreflcence " (efflorescens), " innocence " (inno- 

loens), " licence'* ^ioens), "precedence ^' (pnvcedt^ns), 

liind so on. In other cases, the -ce represents the 

' Latin -tin, as rthagn^ence (magnificentia), mnnifi- 

-^nce (munificentm), &c, ; but it would be no 

outiage to fipeli these words munijicense, magniji' 

t€ih$€. If, therefore, the little mountain of six 

words cannot move, Mahomet, with 2 2(5, may go 

to the mountain^ by which means a very great 

perplexity will be got over by the abolition of 

-cnc€^ and the invariable termination of the two 

groupa in the one Buffix, -aise. 

The same may be said of the suffix -ancc. Tlie 
one word in -ansc cannot be changed without out- 
raging its etymology ; but the 219 in -anc€ might, 
and, indeed, ahould, be changed to -amt* Let tis 
take a dozen words at random :— 
" Appeahanck," Latin ajpparens, 
" Baulnce," Latin bilanx^ through the French. 
" CouKTENAKCE^^' Latin cmitinai^j through the 

"Forbearance," being from our motive verb 
forhtjer-an^ is free to take either c or *. 

** Governance,*^ Latin gnhemanM, through the 

" MAnfTKNANCB,'' L&immamid—tmem, thiough 
the French. 

" Performance/' Latin ptrformam. 
"Remembrance," Latin rememorans, through 
the French. 
" Eesohance,^* Latin rrjonajM. 
" Valance,'*^ being a corruption of the Nonnan 
valannt, is fiie to take either -ce or -j»c in the 
phiice of -t 

" Vigilance,^' Latin vigilant. 
And 80 OQ with the rest. The only one word 
wkich ha5 any show of right to end in -nnce is tlie 
monosyllable " lance " (Latin Iancca\ in German 
lanze. Tim may seem at first sight somewhat 
startling, but so it ia. The other monosyllables 
are **djmce" (Freoch dunMr); *^ glance" (Dutch 
glam); "trance" (French transe)^ &c. The re- 
duction of the four terminations to two would be 
a great boon to young speller??, and would relieve 
many of older growth of much perplexity. I 
would ruthlessly abolish the two abnormal ter- 
luinations -ance and -ciuc^ which at the best have 
only French lenve for their naturalization. 

In re^iid to the terminations -ant and -ame 
f-ance], if they are meant to represent the first 
Latin conjun^ation^ every word belooging to one of 
the other three conjugtitions should be expelled 
from the group. To "the general*' the ter- 
mination speaks iin unknown tongue, but to the 
scholar every word jHirading the L-onjugational a 
with no right to it is a Trojan in Greek armour. 
In our first paper we showed a long list of words 
ending in -aolc not of the first conjugation ; we 

will now do the same with the suffixes -ani and 
-ancc : ~ 

Admiitaneej udmtttahlf^ omittance, _ 
rcf(iittance^ but ptrmimhh^ omimhW^ ttmi 
nmitttni (mitt^re). 

Annoyanct (noccre), through the French. 

AppaidanU depmdant^ pendant^ dfpendan 
also appcndent, dependent ^ pti\da%U dr^ 
indipendentj indepcndcmt (pend^re). The "^^ 
form is the older. Some modern lexicog 
timidly give the "e" form in a suggestive! 
but if derivation is worth a stntw in EngJiairl 
ing, the ** a '* form ought to be tabooed. 

Asctndantf df^cmdmit (the noun), dtsemdmf 
(the adj.), aseendahh lait dcicej\dihltf aitcatdnu-\i 
but ascendance, (ascend^re, descend^re). C?un inv 
thing justify the vacillation from a to e^ and ft' 
and who is to learn spelling when folly like iL ^ ■ 
tolerated ? 

A Mutant, oMutance; resUtant, rtsiHaneM^ im- 
iUtance; but rtnatihU^ regidiHlity^ irreMSik^ 
irrcjdstibility (asaist^re, resist^re). 

A ttendmd^ attendance ; intenda nt, ' — ^'^ ' " " 
but sMptrmtcnd^nt^ miperintcndencey int 
tcnnfy^ and tmdency. Conjugation ia ^^u. ;.,>.. ^ 
regarded here. 

Complaijiant, complainahU (com — plmgllt/i 
through the French. As if from complanOr^^^ifi 

Cowplauont^ complaisanet ; coTnplianrf, r 
pliant; pltasancCf pleasant^ unpleasant (a hyln i 
&c. (placere), through the French- 

Connivance^ but connivent (connivere, 

Confidajit^ confident^ confidence; diffideiU^ dtp- 
dcncc (fidfre). The firet is French. 

Can tri ranee (conteri*re, pfr/, contrivj), through 
the French controuver. There is also the FnM 
wonl coniritionf more rMralar. 

Cofivqtam'Cf conve^aoiej fonfej^onc^r; pUTtef- 
anre (veh«^re). 

Cofinisant^ cognisance; ncognisant, rccwpiisana*. 
recognisable (cognoscere), through the French. 

Coienant (con venire), through the FrencJu 

Ihfcndanl^ d^fcndMc, drft^imtrn {hnnvAxXht 

French) ; but defensible, 

DiHdant^ ditndable; 1 , 

Dorniant, donnAncy^ tiomtar ; with dorvuFf 
donnit^yry ! I dormiiive ! ! (dorm ire), most won- 
derful confusion ! 

Mucrtant,^ m%g€rean<t (mis — credere), as if ftnni 
mis-crearc (to create amiss), 

Nitiianre (nocere), through the French. 

Obei$ancc (through the French) ; but ohtdtenif 
obeditmcc (obedire). 

Poujno :' - V- -i^fh the French) ; bat 

pungent, , 

Pit Usiiii . . /c H ^, .„ , . , « .„^c. . ^,^anc€ (iKMse), throupk 
the French. 

Fnrfmnli pursuance^ pvrmimnt (penequ 
through the French. 




e»S.II.Acc. 29, -Vt] 



ttsagc (uiens)^ through the 

PmUMni^ pwimuxnee; apj^wUmmiM^ appttr- 
UnmUf oho ptrUfumty ptfriinemu, vmpmi*»*^>i >m^ 
pmiinmct ; app4ttmme» (pertinereX ^ 5 * 

14 <tDpari€fia7tcey th« Lat c^tpvienmr, 

Jlfp^nksnl, repentante^ imrqmtiant: but peni- 
Untj pfnittner., imprniUnt (piniteto). The wrotJg 
conju gilt ion we owe to the Freiw^h, 

Kettiant, rcxiaucc (through NoruittQ-Fne&cb) ; 
bat re^siiJUnt^ TfJuUnc*^ rtsidtntiary (reaidere), 

IluUUint, TcrittancA ; but rt^iil»U, rmiaUbiUiy 

i^uini, itrjtant (scrtire), thn)iigh the French. 
Si '^" - mjiaanci (French), «aJftr*thU; with 
WJ tieflC4^ fttjficifnnj (j^utlicere). 

-^ -'^^A, tttmntrt^f tmaf^abU (tenure), 


I ., ,..,. 


I^aliani (vaJere), tlirough the French. 
To these add currnnf (Corinth* " Connlhht^e 
OTie '*), and verdant (virunt)^ through the French. 

AlU»fe'cther nearly ItXl word* of the wrong con- 
j action. 

^ow, one of two things is obvious : to be con- 

ftist^nt w<^ should either cut the knot altogether, 

** have done, and m&ke one univeraid 

v((^ regardleaa of conjugation^ or else 

*' r back into its con- 

[ jtlg'' [ plan would simplify 

^P^J*'"^ :'nu as we feel no offence in 

™ 1*^* ' <i above* why shoold we start 

;, .^.u at the idea of othorv following 

exiimple ? The *' let alone '* syBtem is 

XnrlHn /,.in^ jy, (jHO ^tajT. Thc 

'4 lonat j^o* Reform 

uie, but lie rjiuat be 

hat cannot see the htmdwriting on 

t thp present ** unhiBtorical, tmsjBte- 

' s unt6achable» but by no means 

ntf now curreut in Enj^land." 

ALix Midler's. Ohuistone, Kussell 

' Irtto Ivord Lytton, the late John 

'he Inspectors of Schoois, 

: our Universities, iind a 

the literary cliLJ«s huve 

! reuce u.nd their hope 

'w iiriiahe*:! the few jiAjn^m 

The subject i^ much too 

I'l all I sought was to show 

' reform la spelling is po«- 

'"'I' ' '^' *Uire or shocking 

^^ 1 I Hay I do Uitt 

, nor do 1 hope 
"', I crave the 

, iiriil sliniild }i«» 

U$ herve even jw ; I 

s. The new ti.. :, 

•w trans for til sa Mill oi our .s|^h1K 

r has been thuught ix^Hsihle, 

LiiUT is most hopeful, I have no 


blin : 

system of my own to which I urn wedded, but I 
have eyes to see and experience to know, aad^ like 
Demosthenes, I say to caviUer*, " Strike^ bat hear 
me ! " B. CoBHjijtf Beswisiu 

Lataat, Chiobsilir. 

BuBDUA. — A short time back^ a Rnscijiii friend, 
on a visit to England, promiUgated the somewhat 
startling proposition that Buddha was a RnsBiaa. 
Knowing the haimlesi^ propensity of Shwimic 
etymologists to find their race everywhere, from 
CeyloD to WiUiihire, for both of which Slavonic 
deriviitions have been discovered, and lymng 
heard uU sorts and kinds of men, from Nebuchad- 
nezzar to Prince Bismarck, not to mention Prome^ 
theus and Alexander the Great, claimed to swell 
the glory of the Slavonic race, I 'was less alarmed 
than might have been expected. He grounded 
his theory on the following chain of arguments :~ 
The Shivs were Skyths (which is probable), ib^ 
Skyths were Sakie (which is possible) ; Buddha's 
early name being Sakj'a-Mana, and he having 
been bom id India, in or near which the Siiktt^ 
niiiv, or may not, have lived aljout that period, h& 
waj? a prince of thiit race (which is rather wild) ; 
also he found a considerable Slavonic tinge in 
Bmldhii's chimicter and doctrine, in which I agnse 
with him. I paid little heed to his ur^ments ; 
bitt, on ca^uaiiy glsincing into Mr. WLnwood 
Beutle'a book, 'Ilit: MarUjnhm of Man, shortly 
afterwariis, I saw that Sakya-Muna took the 
name of Buddha, or " the A u^JcentJ,-^ I am not 
aware in what language it has this meaning, but 
snrelj' it is a most niarvelloua coincidence that, io 
Hiii^aian and Bohemian certaiuly, and, I believe, 
in every f!?lavonic tongue, budit means *^ to wake.'* 

As « TON W. DlLKlG, 

"God Save thk Kino/'— I thought thnt my 
friend Mr. W. Cbappell had nettled the dispute as 
to the origin of our National Anthem* But I 
have recently, in one of the French illustrated 
joumrtl% reuil u French claim to the air, and also 
to the words. The version of the latter, par- 
ticularly of the stanza where we have '* victoriotin " 
and ** glorious," apj)cared to me us the clever 
forgery of some wsg. I regret that I have lost the 
cutting. If Mr, Chnpjmll has seen the article, I 
fihnuld like to have his opinion about it. It wa« 
entitled '* French Origin of Words and Tune ufGod 
Sfirc the KintfJ'* James Hkxry Dixox. 

[Mr* Williatii Chap^ell, F.8.A., ha* kindljr fs?oure«l 
*' N. k il" with the fonowinjj comment on ihii natJoiutl 

The mistake of ^upposiug (io*t Sav< tht^ Kimj t*> 
be French cJiU only have originate*! with y>me 
render of the Sonvniin d^ la Marqum dc Cruiui, 
and mistaking that work for history. Its r»«il 
chamcter will be wen by TCt«mi4^\<i ^<i (^wwVrrVMi 



[5» K It, A^. ^S^ 

Jttneifi for June, 1834, The atoiy of Gi'«u«f LHo*^ 

aauvt Ic Hoi^ composed by Lully, and sung by tlie 

[Kuns of St Cyr to Louis XIV.. is imrc invention. 

IFor !i further account us to how Handel is tlit^xe 

aid to have brought the National Anthem from 

France, and to have palmed it off upon the Eng- 

Ilish as his own composition, Ree Ptyjmlnr Mimic of 

Wit! Olden Time, ii. 692. UnfortunaUdy for that 

itKirt of the story, Handel never entered Fmnce^ 

his own God Save the King is known as 

aslied the Royal Society why water weitjhed no 
heavier with a fish in it than without^ it is siiid 
that a shrewd member of the society presumed to 
imiuire whether the fact were so. Since that time, 
one >^Titer after another has drawn inferences from 
the medifuval custom of identifyinglsabel and Eliza- 
beth, but the shrewd member never comes forward 
to demtind the proof of any such identiiiaitiun. 
Tliougli I do not claim credit for ahixwdnes^, yet 
allow me to play the ]Mirt of the memher. I came 
to the study of the Rolls, and other inediteval 
dociimentH, with the pre-conceived idea that I 
nhould tind the fiame person constantly nivuied 
both liijibel and Elizabetli. I found no such thing. 
I met with out: imtuncc of this confusion ; aiid, in 
another passage, I found the same person called 
Margaret. I discovered one ca^c of the same 
jjcrson being termed Eleanor and Blanche, several 
mixtures of Edmund and Edward^ and some dozen 
instances of the interchangeable use of Margaret, 
Margery, and Mury. But my notion of the ordinury 
exchange, as sATionyms^ of Elizjibeth and Isabel 
faded away in the presence of facts. I wish, there- 
fore, to ask why viTiters keep repeating this asscr- 
tion without examination ( If tlierp be instances 
which have esniped me, I shall b-e glad to hear of 
them ; but if the instances he, as I have met with 
them, so few «s to be mere exceptions, proving the 
rule, let us acknowledge it at once. 

I hope I tihall not be answered by the remiuder 
that Isabel ia used for Elizidjeth in 8puin. 1 
know it is so, but I am sjieaking not of Sjisanis'h 
use, but of English. . The Spaniards use Isiil^el 
because they have no Eliztibeth, just m we call 
two of our Queens who were Spanish princesses 
t'-atherlne, because we ha\ e no CaUdJna, and we 
were ignorant at the time that we did possess the 
same name in Kathleen. 

An entry on the Patent Roll for 8 Henry V. 
seems to me to confirm my view :— 

*' Uxor Nicltoki Kyriell, defancti, Ch'r, habuit nomen 
EtLzabetha;, et noii IsnbeUa?." 

Hod the two names been considered abj^olut^ly 
identical, would this entry have been written? 


TnB Devil LiKEXEti to a Busy Bisaor.— In 
the "Breefe Notes and Remembraunecr" of Sir 

Jolin Harington {Niigtr Antiqua^, €>dition 17711 
vol ii. 2'IH) h the following :— 

" I Ihya day heard the Kyngc [James I.] di»lTTef lii 
fit>eeche totho Commons and Lordes^an I t^^r. l, , . - , ,^^ 
thereof therein his Majestie calledo t 
Bishtjpc, eparyngc neither Inboure nor i 
of London tolde mc, he thoughte hia Mnjf^tj. 
bttue chosen another name," 

Neither the Bishop of London nor Sir Jo 
Harington, V>oth learned men» .seem to have bet*! 
aware that gentle King Jamie might have quoteil 
old Liitimer's senuon, The Plougft, a^ hia aiithi> 
rity for this phrase :— 

"Who i« the most diligcnte^t brRb<wi and P«tjit« lal 
all Englimd J I will tell you: U uVhe Devitl. Itts ii T 
moii diligent pnuvcher- He ia never oat of hisdioc 
he is nerer from his cure, he keepeth resjdence ftt «ll 

And again at the conclusion of the *ermon:— 
" The devill is diligent at hiv plough, be It &0 HO* 
preaohiag Prelate.'' 

H. A. KEyxs&r, 

Waterloo bodge, Heading* 

A Miracle jx 1656.— -The Paris eorrespoti 
of the Mtrt'unu/i Politicus^ November C, ItVKiil 
sends the following information, which may notUl 
without in te real to readers of Port-Roj'al hl^torv: 

** I sent you word of n new Mir&cle wroucbt in tli? * 
Monastery of Port-Royall in the City : the • 
Fostula in the Eye by the Touch of a 7/ 
(they »fty) was taken out of the Crowri - ^ 
This Miracle growcth famone, lo that > 
identifuU at the MouMtery, therein i 
Touch of this Thorn without great difficulty .' 


''Taking a Sioht.'*— The mode of taking a I 
sight, well known to school-boys, by means ofj 
applying the thumb to the tip of the nose undl 
extendin<jf the fingers, is, I find, by no means i1 
modem invention. We find it mentioned iaj 
Rabelais, book ii. c. 19, where Panurge cnconn*j 
ters the Englishman, Thaumart. 

** Pariurtrc ^^udJcnly lifted up in the a»r his rijfht h*] 
and put the thunih thereof into the nostril of tli.> .ut 
side, holdinj; liis four fiDg^«;rs straight nut, 
orderly ia a pandlelline to the point of his n^ 
the left eye wholly, and nmkiitg the other WinJt_ 
profound depression of tlie eyebrows and eyelidft* " 
lifted he up bi» left baiidl with InrJ wruL^* 
BtretohinfT forth of hia four fitu 
thumb, which he held in a tine di \4 

the situation of his right hAtid, v 
cubit and n half between them, 
form he abased toward the urouiHi , nl tin 

other hand. Ijnatly, he held thecu iu the uadat^ at i 
ing at the Englishman '» nofc." 

E. L. BLCKttljrsOFF* 

The First English Locomotivi: is Ni 

** Among ilie articles deposited in the corner fton^a 
the New York New Coal and Iron Exd ' 

kid a few we«k« ago, was a docunien 

following curic>u« scrap of hi«tory :— • Th < 

that ran on n roilroaa on this Cantincnt ^tu uu^(^ 



(JFOfn fingUnd hy this company ; wa« ordered in England 
bj H^ntio Alien* aaslatant engineer ,* waa shipped from 
Mrefpool April 3rd» 1829, on hoard the packet ship 
John Jiy ; ixrtTed in Xevr York 17th of May, 1821* ,- 
Tu serit up Ihe river to Rondoat,&nd arrived the 4th of 
JaJy, 1529; from thence was tran^orted bj canal » Htid 
irnred iit HoQetdale Juij "Xin}. 1 S'29 ; vad on the Sth of 
liupfit nmde the trial trip. ThiEi locomotive %vaa bailt 
ii SUmrtridfe, Enghmd, nnd the boiler ia now in u«e at 
Ov^Otulftle, rexinfiylv&itiA/— TA« Ewjinetr'' 

K. P. D. E. 

Parallel Passage. — Prof. Tyndall finiahed 
[ hia adtljreHH to the nieTDl)eP5 of tlie British Asso- 
I ciatioD Jit Belfast in theae words ; — 

[ must (juit % theme too prent for me to hxndle, hut 
irhicli will be h&ndlcd by (he loftiest mtmU tif^eB after 
\ you &nd I» like strei^ks of morning cloudy shall have 
I melted into the inlinite azure of the past/* 

HuynuMin, the j^ipsy [Qkuntin Uunmrdj^ when 
I ahi^Qt to l»c hanged, ia asked by Quentin wliat he 
I fxpccts as to tho future, Hayraddin answers :^ 
Fo b« resolved into ibo elements. 3fy hope» truit, 
pxfjeelAtion U, that the myaterious fmitie of humRnity 
\ melt into the general m&m of nuture, to Le recom- 
dcd in the other forina with which the daily supplici 
I which daily di*npp*''*''^ »"*f return under different 
the watery I 1 ' ' ' atreauis and ahowere; 

hy parti to i fnothtr earth, the airy 

I to wanton ip > ,'e, and those of fire to 

FfWTrBly the blaae of Aldiburstn and hia brethren* In thia 
I faita have 1 lived, and I will die in it/' 

Hiivniddin woiild have distinguished himself 
[ at Belfast, but he was before hii* time. 

E DuoBUS. 


I We must request coirG§pondcnt« ile siring information 
n f»Tiii!v fuuttors of only pri^Tvto interest^ to affix their 
■An refues to their querief, in order that the 

nsf* . jiddressed to them directs] 

fli^nnixo-CouxTtyo, — I shall be glad if any 
he thrown upon the following statement 
^nner in which herring* are counted on 
lur I of Devon. 

A . Bucks, Bideford, Ilfracombe, and 

M f m, herriD^s are sold by the " maze " 

I or * f>12 tiiih. This nuniber is arrived nt 

^l] i;; way : tho hemn;i[x ore counted by 

i three psh, cnllcd a "cast^'; and 
1<> " castB '^ have been eountetl, 12u 
bare been n ckoned, ctiual to a ** long hun- 
T» far-r,^ "' ,ists" are counted, und the 
(III of theiie 3<* more 
nn calls out " cast," 
nng the number 
fUf I roii four limes, 

ot Ulii ti b, licing^ four times 
lip the ''luazo'* or ** mea^ " 
torn is a very old one, 
m, or of the meaning 
ni ni:»-'-* «>r me!v«s' »eenis to Ije 
*Ca«t" probably me^ms the sanie as 

"throw"— as many fish, that is, aa can be con- 
veniently thrown or handed at once. The nuinber 
153, of course, recalls the number of fish in the 
miniciilous draught of fishes ; but this suggestion 
when offered is a novelty t^ the fishermeo of 
Cloveny and Bucks; and, tis the 153 in countinj^ 
the herrings is not arrived at by one reckoning, 
but by first counting as far as the " long hundred " 
of 120; then lidding li) more '^ca^ts,*' that k to 
nay 30 fii*h : and, histly, by throwing in the odd 
three fish,— the coincidence of the nuniber with 
thitt of the infraculons dmught of fishes imiyy 
probably, be only accidental, curioTis n« it is* At 
Yarmouth herring'i are sold by the " la»t '* of 
1(MWX», und at Berwick by the ".cran." What di. 
these words mean ? Frederick Pollock. 

The Two TniEVES at Calvary*— Some few 
yetirs iigo I noted down, in lecture at OxfonJ, tliat 
the mimes of the two thieves cnicified with Chnnt 
were Zorithoii and Camaiha. Did I take down 
the names correctly ! What are the authoritte)» 
for the tradition ? Perhaps something of the 
history, as well as of the names, of these two men 
is known* G. F. B. 

*' Ttib Bird^s Nest."— Where can I find this 
poem, which concludes with the*e words : *' It.*i 
little beak made s^ '' ? G. WoriiKaspooN* 

Fly-Leap Inscriptions.— In a copy of Hyl- 
ton's Scala P^r/e#^f lo^aj*, AVynkyn deWorde, 1194, 
sold on Tuesday, 18th August, by Messrs. Sotheby, 
were some curious M8. note^ tmd pmyei-i, appa- 
rently MTitten by a former owner, whose name wah 
thus given on one page :— -** This Boke belongeth 
to Dame Jhone Sewell, Syster in Syon, Pfe^^sed 
the yere off oure Sahiation a thousand and .syxc 
hundreth/' The ihiie i-^ nerhaps a mistake for 
15(><), as the book also belonged to a monk of 
Sheen^ one Grenehelgh, in HDO. On the l>f»ck of 
the title-page is a device of the Indy : it connists 
of a kind of monogram of the letters J and S, 
with *' -ohanna -ewell " alongside, and surrounded 
with pious invocations. Alxtvc this inscription 
are two sets of verses. The first U Tieaded : — 
"In despuyng of y* (lend and ghostly eamye tay y* bimn, 
O tortuose Serpens qui mille per meandros fraudcsfjue/' 
with five or six lines in atldition. A pious prayer 
addressed to Satan is certainly a curiosity. After 
this come<a— 

'* Againat vayne dremes or faatosies lay y" use, 
Pxul o p.cul vaganta portotita 9omnionim 
Prooul eato p.uicaci prcttigiator hasta. Distcde, to." 

Ih any MUch charm known f The last wordK 
seem to jxiint to a continuation. F. K. 

" Bnt^cLoo." — Will liny of your 8c«utish cor- 
re^ondents kindly say in what collection thi* 
hymn tune is to be found j and from what pub* 



[6»* a IL XuQ, 20, 71 

lUKer it can be procured, or whether it is to be bid 
»cp«JTitely ? It« moflic runs thfoogh A Jkxu^hUr 
of mtJi. T. W. C, 

Db Clere and Pb Braosb FAHiUte.— In 
Vincent's Misceltutiea CotL of Ana^ B. i, fo. 71, 
maybe found the following marriJiges tabiiliitjwi:— 

Irnilimuft* de Brevofi&, co^om&tu&^Mftiildis T ' Conutis de 

GaiDf obiit Apud B timbre, lii StiMcx, I CUre, *] i • Buronun, 

et Bspoltua in Fnoratos do Selc, I Buck in j. .: iiiti acit ut 


pAtet In Imj., ^c* 


ditts de Brewocm ante- 
' iUonizn dc Wiiten- 
D, in com< Su«acx, unde 
Ut Shirley. 

JoLiuincs dc Brewoaa^ de^tt^IargaretiL. Dna. 
Brembre, KiiAtip, et de C&ntreselif, 
Gower. Vido Eecb. a"* &g. 
5Bd. 11. No. 32. 

Rich«rdu« de Brefwoia«=. , . , ^t« «t 
Baro duperRtea 1277t I nnft birFiKl 
6 Ed. L KoetH d<? 

1 Clert 

William de &rewo8tt.=I«abella, filia Gilbcrti de Clurej 
eo* Olooc. neptb Gilberti Ma- 
rescftlli, Comb. Fetnb. 

Jl<>w, I think the Above will puzzle lUl genen- | 
who hikse OS yet maidled with tlie De | 
fttmily, and no wonder either ; but my 
ient object is to find out who Roger de Clere, 
ove mentioned^ was the son of. 1). C* E. 

5, The Croacetit, Bedford. 

OF Shaptesburt. — "Maria AmiUi 

J«luuini», 7 Dec,^ 1 Ric. I.," m mimed 

I (Rot. Pat., 21 Hen. VI.^ Pars Prima) a.s one of 

I the Abhesiseii of Shaftesbury. No such Princess 

^ t on record iis daughter of the Empress Maude, or 

»ter of Queen Kit onore of Aquitaine. She may 

hATe )»eeto an iUegilimate daughter of Geoffrey 

FlaiitageDet. Is it known who i^he wait 7 


Tom Q0AB at CHRiar Church*— Vast openir 
tions are now going on here, wbieh one of your 
nmny Oxford correspondents might be willing to 
cz^ain. The broad gravel-Wiilk is being lowered 
|«nd JBade much narrower ; and thuH have been 
Jo«ed the bases of the buttresses of the cloister 
[fihat surrounded, or wa« intended to surround* tlie 
inadrangle. I am sure thut some authoritative 
ant of the present proceeflrngs, and also of the 
{tfeiiilt they are intended to aim at, would interest 
very many besides Y, 

Mr. BisRAELi's ExpREssioK OF " Flouts, akd 
QtmES, AND JEERS.'' — Bv Way of Variety, and ad a 
slight episode in the jjarlinmentary discussion of 
the Public Worship Eegolntion Bill, some rather 
caustic temaiks were passed by the Premier upon 
0e?tain eanprwftions uttered in another place, by 
bialtidiafiDeCFetary, LoH Salisbury, Mr. Disraeli's 
worda, as given in the papers, were that his 
coHaagae wa« a man given to ** iiout^, and gibes, 
and jeers^" Another reading met with in a 
Loudon journal gave the last word as ** sneers ^ ; 
bat pfwiblj the former reading is (he more oor- 

• This William wiui the one who wiu it&rrcd to death 
in WmdAor Custle by King John, with hu mother Maud, 
1210, and I cannot think he wiiu baiT«d at StU Priory, 
ihoiQgh lie may hove been so. 

rect. It is a matter of interest to inqur 
**N* & i),' whether the phraae in *{ ■ 
original or a quotation, it hajs n rl a i 
thing of the ring of a iiuotation, lii: it ; i i 
terse ; perhaps, then, you will aLlo% n ' ** i 
as a question to your readers, whether • m* , , 
ever met with this expression before. f 


DuBLix Taverns. — Can aar of yo»i 
respondents let me know if there arr 
published that give u description of t 
taverns and their owners from the y* 
1779? Wm. Jackso* in... 

Jhmdramj go. Down. 

Madame Rolaxd, — Was a spurious ^ T^i 
professing to l)e her Autobiogrjipby, publisher i I 
am inclined to believe so, having seen in an Am » r 
can newspaper, published early in this ornuN 
references to poaaages in what were 
Memoirs, too abominable for any h^i 
written. i yt-v.i 


" PiNA Silver."— I wish to know til 
of this term. It is applied to some ^i 
bullion captured from the Spanish in U' 
it also stated that water was " soked • 
pitft of the Pina Silver." What 6i>e^ - i lui 
mean] H. W. H. 

'*Vox DiAN.Y..*' — Pn>f. Petit, in his leant 
work on Mary Stuart, has gathered togvtber H»m«' 
interesting contemporary te»timonie« to the t 
of the Queen of Soots. One of these is 
Dianw ! God bless tluit sweet faiy*,* <^ 
Where in Knox*ft writing** do tbc«e ^^ 
and do they not refer to the custom of juoiutiu^ tin 
moon ] U. F, 

Ham m fmi H rith^ 

RoMAK Coin. — Any information reiiiifilitiii tki-* 
coin will much oVjlige. On**? 
is repre^nted the head of a m.^ 
hodced noee and projecting ckin. The ktvk id 





curlouslv formed. The words aximxts 

, the it bein^a' h^i in a de^p 
M ; hea comes another cracky and 

nt o o very much oblit^Tuted, followed by 
e distinct and in good preseniation. The 
tor I take to be an R or ii, I nit c;mnot Ije 
p$itive on thiit print The other letters are 
Pgnizrible. being woni down almost to the 
ft.Thfi reverse represeotu i\ woman holdinj^ 
Dg in her right hand — what it h I can't 
he only ihing I can liken it to is a huge 
umbrella \ Something like a sword is 
ed by Uer left bund* The lett^n are all 
* "'' Hiis aide, but I think 1 van yet die- 
Tliere are suiall putts of other 
.... ,„iug, but not enough to identif)' them. 

Eg, IN HIS " Battlk of Life/* in a de- 
of, the chan'jes which hivve gr«iduBJly 
ce oil one of our English battle-fields, 
iise of the two following reuiurkoble psL^- 

no t1Ui|(o girl would drew her hair or boiom 
I fweeUtt flower from tkit field of deAth> and 
uiy • long year had come and gone, thf berries 
M«rtf won* l,t£i4ved to Uavc too dttp a Uctin o^i (he 

e were deep green paicbes in the ^n*o\nQg corn 
th it people looked at awfullj; year aft*?r jear 
: [ %ii : 1, and it wsj knoivn. that undemeath 
•tA, heaps of men and hones lay buriedp 
, enriching the earth ; for many a year 
r«. H' 'Wn there were cnlled hnitlc-sheaTeft, and 
^ ftod no one ever knew a battle-sheaf to be 
the iMi load at a harvest hoaie. '' 
here imy legends respecting the iso-called 
l^eaf, or the " too deep ^tain '' from the 
owing on the battle-ground 1 I am in- 
thio£ that this is not a mere picture of 
% imaginatioo. 

Jamjes FsARaoyy Juk. 

TH AND Eoo.*^ — This name is often npnlied 
is nlsi'i known as ** Britannia metal." Why 
ied**T€K>lUandEgg'»i K. 

OK Davis,— Is the ex-President of 

ction 7 He in cbiimed tm a relative 

tDw'iBei in CardiganahLre, being de- 

^llicyf fitJiii a I^avis who emignited 

lity, aad settled in Virginia, in the 

imy. T. 0. LL 

iLR&a THK MARK."— What Is the origin 
Sbo- of the 8hak8[»earian phrase. "God 



es* what the 
iituf of Vcnia\ 

fa purenlhetic ftlKjh)gy for some proCcme 

or vulgar word/* The other commentators give no 
light on the process by which the words came to 
be BO used. Iota. 

Oban, N.B. 

"Kexrlm CHiLLrsoLT," voL iL 375: — 
** Fortunate art thou, tny reader, if thou chanee to 
liave heard the popular song of Mf QiM/a ning by the 
one bdy wlm alone can ting it with expresfion worthy 
the verse of the paeteai and iba mualc of the compositton, 
by tbc aiatcr of the eiquiute tougitrasa" 

Wanted, the nauies of the ladies referred to in 
the above paragraph, and the name of the mib- 
lisber of the music. E, T. 

*' Rendbz-voub/* — About what period did this 
word become of ordinary use in England, so a«, in 
fact, to become an English word I It appears to 
have been a very favourite expression of Oliver 
Cromwell's. In one of bis earliest letter*, dated 
3rd May, 1643, and addressed to ** The Honourable 
the Committee at Lincoln," I find it use<l no leas 
than f«mr tirncj?, and in the later pait of bis corre- 
a^>ondence it fre^juently occurs. 

K. Fassikgham* 

An Old Claymore. — I have an old claymore 
which ia inscribed along the blade "'J. J. Runkel. 
Sohlingen." Can any of your readers kindly give 
me the date when it was made ? Scot. 

(5t»» S. ii. a) 
In reference to Ma. Bouchikb's rjuery respecting 
the music of the Carttiagnoli\ which is a well-known 
air in France, but which I am not able to prick down, 
it would be perhaps int€reating for some of the 
readers of ** N. k Q," to have this famouiJ dong, 
not with its *' topical *' and changing form, but m 
its original andy we may say, dehnitive words. It 
is as follows : — 

" Quo faut-il au E6pablicain ? flu) 
Da plomb, da coour et puis du p^in : (huj 
Du plamb pour Tetrang^, 
Du cceur pour sc vcnger, 
Et du pftin pour sea fri'res. 

Vive Ic mn (hii) 
Et du puin pour ae« frcrcs. 
ViYe le ion 
Bu canon ! 

t^aiivonf Ja Cannagnolt t 

Vive le *on (hit) 
I>Hnians la Carmagnole f 

Vifo le son _ 

I>u canon \ 


Vaut-U ] 


[5^5, ILAITO.29,74 

Que reclame an Rcpablicftlnl (hir) 

La mort des traitres et des coquina, (bU) 

La piocho dant les cachota^ 

La torchc daikH le^? chateaux, 

Et la paix aux cbaumiLTea; 

Vivo le aoti (bif) 
£t I*J|>A>ix aux chaumicr«a« 
Vive le son 
Du canon ? 

DttBfonH Itt Carmiignole ! &c 

Que recherche iin R^puhlicainT (hU) 
Le traTall, la ecience ot Ic Tin : (hi*) 
Le travail pour manger, 
La fcioncc pour 8*<u'clairer, 
Et le vin nlein ton rerrc t 

Vive le aon (hx») 
Et le vin plein sou verre ! 
Vive le son 
Du canon ? 

Dansona la Cnnnagnole f kc 

Quels font les Dieux Rdpnbljcaini 1 (hit) 
La Xaturo ot le Genre H urns in ! (U*) 
Le ciilte a la Patria ! 
L« Christ A la voirie • 
Et le Saint- Pi>ro au dlikble ! 

Vive k son (hU) 
Et le Saint-Pere an diable ! 
Vive le aon 
I>a canon ! 

Danflona la Carmagnole I kc 

Que desire un R^«pnbUcam ) (hi*) 
C'est de nionrir sana calotm^ ihi*) 
Un fili pour le pletirer. 
Le peupk pour I'cluver, 
Le resect ^ sa Mere ! 
ViTfl le son (bit) 
Le respect h. aa Mdrc f 
Vive Ic son 
Du canon ! 

Dansona la Caimagnole ! &c. 

ViTc la Commnne dc Paris J (hit) 
Vivent nos setitioiis et nos districtB J (hi:) 
PJui de riches sur nous, 
]>e pauvrca li gcnoux ! 
Aux faln(iaut4 la upuerre I 

Vive Ic son (hit) 
Aux faini>anta la guerre • 
Vive te son 
Du caAon ! 

Dansons 1a Carmaj^ole \ 

Vive Ic aon (hit) 
Dansofia la Carn^agnole f 
ViYc le aon 
I>u canon ! ** 

Thus was ii^in the CarmagnoU sijug by the 
people of Pans during the Revolution of the j 
18th MarcL, 187l» ^ 

Kjt Academy. 

Hkkrj Gau6€ER0>'. 


> lie I 


(4*»» S. X. xi. xii. fomm ; b^ S. L 98. im> 

To continue my references fri^ui old clmrtcrs tnl 
wliicb the family of Be Quinci nppenrs, 
draw attention to a chnrter in the ?■ > -^ 
lar crocks which has been hitely pn 
by Lord Herries, under the enit-- , 
Fntscr. Hern we find n charter bv William iBe] 
Lion to William Giffard, of Thibu (TealiDgX 
afterwards the property of the Maxwells, in which 
tht^ names of the following witneis?^es are ottAched ; 

*' Reginaldo Roesenai epiacopo, Comite r>uncano I 
justiciariOf Itoherto de Qmnci, Philippo de VRlnnil* 
ciimeraho^ Willclmo Cumin, Jolmnne de 
Wiilelmo de Ilaiaj, Haiiu1|>ho Je Soulia, ^ 
Bcrkclny, RoRero dc Mortcim'r, PhKir^^^ 
Wiiltero Miu*dac, Rogtro de Kerlicl, H 
$ir!;ill0p apud Monros j^Montrose) prirao ui 

There h no date, but Mr. Fraser places it between I 

There can be no doubt thnt Soiher waa ?on I 
of Robert, us I find, in the volume entitled! 
The Chiefs of f'olqvhoun and ihrir CourUr^l 
(l86Ji), a confinuMtion by Pope Clctneni ^ 
(il88) of ft grjmt, *' ex dono Hoberti de QuiJ 
Seer filii ejuj*," to Henry, abbot, and the C^o 
of Newbot tie, of the Orange of Prestoun. 

That charter of Alexander IL (15.1?^ ^n^ 
the barony of Kylosbern to Ivan t^ " 
which I quoted (4^ S. v. ^62) for 
name of Roger de Quinci at«a<be>i ti- 
diately after the name of William de B- 
Chancellor ; but he does not atll hiuiseli 
Wintonie.^ It will beobi*erved that there aretw^| 
hdies mentioned in these charters a^ wives of tho 
Be Quinciii of which no notice has been taken ial 
the discussion, namely, Eva, wife of Il< nrulT 
Eleanor, second wife of Roger I? it kf 
what families they were connected? It 
if Eva had l>een previou>*ly mrtrried to W tiiter dt 
Berkeley liefore she became thr wife of Robert d<l 
t^bdncy and had a 6on Jolin, but by whift' 
husband does not appear. All this* ANOLO-f 
umy be able to clear up, We have thus th 
thi^ee generations— Robert, Seher, and Rogc 
extending from about A.D. 1143 i l| 

when it i^eems to be agreed that I' 
is, from the middle of the reign of J *.i \ u * M 
1153) to the middle of (he reign of Alexander III 
(1249-12B5). I would venture to 
pedigree of those De Quincis uientior 
above charters thus, along with the C*^^ 
tuny be csonMidei^d eertain : — 




Sether, cai«ef=Mar^ret, iiater of 
1207, died i FitJE-Parnell, Earl 
1219. ( of Leicester, 


lit, Hel«i=Boircr. 122^3, 1232^2Dd, Elenaor. 
died 11>64. 

The De ^uinci^ here mentioned in these 
rti«h cluirtcrs include only the three later 
iona, bin ;;ive no jissbtnnce to denr up the 
Itics of the enrlier irenerntionf* goiini tmck 
from A.», 1143. I would rwk An«lo-Scot[:s 
^ whether a witno^n in that charter of De Brus 
B granting the church of Anntmd, &c.^ to tlie 
^L Abbey of Gysehiirgln circa 1141, to which he 
^B^M drawn our titttniion, and which is found in 
^Hvn A^Apendix lo llie <.'lmrtuhiry of Gl[L^r;:oWf may 
oot give ftonie aswikt.ince. There I find, after the 
name of Adnni fir Sf vton, the foUowinj^ name : — 
" Willdmu- \ 1 di, filii 8eyeri." Here we 

luive three . dtiling from tthont 1141, 

which, if we n;uy judge frOTn the Ii*ter generation 
given abovf^^ would carry the l>irth of this Seyer 
otor! it A^T). U}2i. This would suit very 

we: -L*yer, who is^ said to htive come over 

wli rVie Conqueror in 1<KJ6, as he would 

th« : :ry-six yeiir^ of at?e. It would be 

thi« ^--.»»i »>i.o would give for ^* the soul of him- 
•vlf und his ?on Seyer '* the donation to Dunmow. 
*rh<* i.^rf.wl l.,.vi-->v.r jit which he lived will 
scv n- the husbund of Maud St. 

Li. n de St. Lit/ the first, of 

wb S. xl 44H) spealw, who wiia 

frr , son of Riclmrd Fitz Gia- 

ml, ^licondiy, to Heyer de Qninci. It 
;o me that it must be the second Seyer, 
ttho uhj^ ujiirried to Maud St, Liz, daughter of 
DuTTid I. 'a fjueen. 


1 liiUjit ii|K)iuyj>:e for *■ 
lftf>fi of wbtch T bnvp 

wife of Roger de Quincy, 

er she waa fall sister to 

..I jaEin de B:\liol, Lord of Eem.*ird 

m we are indebted for theoKI bridj^^e 

" ' if Miirgaret, danj^hter of Davtd^ 

fT» be not her motlier, who was 

.it' tivf'^ ^' " ' btieu ih(^ eldest 

ter hu d^i became, 1 fiup- 

1i» r ' ju< Scotiay' in 

T>, of Galloway. 

' y, cin ho be the 

A of Wiiiifim the Lion^ whose 

I ten in the ** Liber de Mclros " i 

nn'^ in a qnes^- 

knowledj^e ; but 

on, as they are 

rn, and I shall 

cimrin;: Up the obscure 

'l\\ 0, T, R.UI AOK, 

Bt;KYA»'8 Compeers and pRatrKCESsoiis (5** 
S. ii. 104.) — Certain Rtatements in thi:? paner 
seem to me so contrary to fact, and to involve 
clijtr^'es so grave ag.*4iDst two of the moat eminent 
of the early Fathers of the Christinn Church, 
I cannot let them pasH without a word of honest 
remonj^trance, Irenfi'us and TertuUian are flatly 
charged with wilful discrepancy of statement to 
suit their own ends. Of the fonuer it is said, — 
"Irena?UH^ against heresies, at one time quotes 
Htrmas with approbation, when he supjiorts his 
views, and on another occimon condemns him and 
his works, when cgntrarj" to him." We should 
have been very grateful for chapter and verse. 
Irenieus, it U quite true, *' quotes Hirjttas with 
approbation,** and the quotation will be found in 
Contra Ihtrata, Lib. IV. c.aj>. X3C,,— " Bene ergo 
prominctiit scriptura, qu.a^ dicit : Primo omnium 
cralc^ quonimn unus Mt Dent, fjui omnia conslituUj 
d constimmavii ; d /veil t.i- co qnod UGfi entfj ut 
f^ifiifd omnia: ovuiinm. cajMt(\ d 'jui h nemine 
eapUUiit.'* On which the ffK>t-note, — "Hennas 
Fcmtonm intellif^ct, ex cujus lib. ii. mand. 1, verba 
hie cituta desumpta sunt." I tind no other men- 
tion of this Hermas ; but in Lib. XL cap. xxxiii. 
3. 2, he seems to make allusion to Hermejt Tris- 
magvitusj as an advocate of the doctrine of the 
trans mignttion of souls. 

** TertuUian/' we are informed, *' on prayer, as- 
^imes the Scriptural dij^mity uf the book called 
TTic Shepherd of Hcruinjt; yet in another, De 
Fiidicitia^ when the text is agatust him, be treats 
the same work i\» impure, apocryphal, and scouted 
by all the churches." The pu-^sac^e^ I pre^time, 
referred t-o a-s ansunung ^* the Scriptural digaity " 
of thLs book is this {Dt Orationt^ xii.) : — 

*^ Item quod aft^it^ata omtiorte ns«idenr!i nio9 etC 
qtttbusdam^ non ]>er«picto ratioitetn, nisi ei Hermits ilt^, 
cujm fcnpturafere Pastor inscrilitur, traniacta orationo 
noil frapcr lectam jf«tedisBet, termn nJiad quid focueet, 
id quoque ad obserr&tionom rindicaremus.^* 

Whnt assumption is there here of ** Scriptural 
dignity," or dij^nity of any kind ? Hermes only is 
quoted as tea<'hing a reverentinl attitude in prayer, 
not a word is aald or a hint dropped a^ to the 
nature of his writin^^*. Thi« we have fully and in 
no measured term^ in Lk Fndinthi^ c.ip. x,| but, 
to u)y mind, without justly subjecting nim to fto 
serious a diar^^e a,^ wilful contrfidictton. His 
attitude in prayer TerUdlian comiucnds, but cei^ 
tain of his dotrtrineH he so uttirly reproltates a« to 
give it as \\U upinion that his book had been justly 
condonmcd s\» apocrjqjhnl and fal«c* by every 
Council of the Church. I see no "variation of 
opinion here." 

Easeluus does not go «o far ns to «iy that " it 
wa» used by the earliest Churehes as a boak of 
elementarj* instruction/' but only that ^rij »om€ it 
wa«« judged a very tjece***ary book^ espe<'iaUy for 
teaching the first elem^tiW <ti1 C\\t\»\Aa?&\\iv ^^ 




was, no doubt, held in Ligb esteem^ and often 
quoted A3 authority by ancient writera. It hns 
always j^eemed to me to bear, in niuny parts of it, 
a very atriking likeness to The Piljf rim's Progress. 
Edmund Tew, M,A. 

Thk S UN-flow jer (5*»» S, L 165, 256, 417 ; ii, 
17.)^ — The Jerusalem artichoke is the Helmnthus 
fuherosu$i a p^?rermiid plant of the same family as 
the common simtlowcr, Avhich is an annwtl. In 
favouruble seiwons like the present the above 
artichoke bears liowers almost equal to those of 
the guntlower^the Hdianthvs aunuus; but, in 
general, the tJowers of the tubcrosvs are of an in- 
ferior size, iind lack the ele^nce and bri^^ht colour 
of the garden sunflower. The name *' Jerufialem/' 
in union with artk-hoke is evidently a corruption 
of the Italiun word ginuok^ which means " turn- 
win." Thanks to ftlu* Blenicinsopp for tbii* in- 
formation, the tnith of which is to me self-evident. 


If A MuRiTHiAy had turned to the iwges of 
old Crerard's Herbal^ he would have found that 
aaoe observer taking the same view of the ** popular 
fallacy '' m Chtitdert Bf.dh ; and my observation 
is entirely in unison with that of the quaint herbal- 
ist as a matter of fact. He says:-- 

" The llower of the Sunae is colled m Latino F'iojt 
Solt'i^ inking that name from tboie that have reported it 
to turae with the Sunnc, the whicU I could never ob- 
wrre, although I have endeavoured to find oat the truth 
of it ; but I rather think it waj f o called because it doth 
retemble the mdiant benmefl of the Sunne, whereupon 
iome hare called it Corona Soliij and Sol Indidntts, the 
Indian Sunflower/* 

No doubt the notion of some particular flower 
turning to and with the sun ** is a very ancient 
one," and Ovid says of his suntlower (transformed 
from the nymph Clytia, who vainly loveii AiwUo) — 

" Still the lov'd object the fond leaTea pursue. 
Still moYo their root the moving «itu to view/' 

The ** fond leaves " are what liotaoiHtii would call 
the petals of the flower ; but* though Ovid may be 
correct as to the plant he had in view, it wa« cer- 
tainly not the modern Peruvian sunflower (Hdian* 
thus anntiUis), which was unknown to the ancient 
world, Ovid's idea, however, was too good to be 
lost sight of, and, therefore, modern poeta, who 
are seldom botanists, finding a flaming stintlower 
in gardens, which, with its golden rays, i^, tis Lou- 
don says in his EnnjchjMrdia of FlnnU^ a ** com- 
plete idetd representative of the sun/' iippropriated 
the simile of Ovid to the Peruvian plant without 
caring to verify the foct ; though when planted iu 
a favourable jjositton, as most flowers revel iu the 
bhy&e of day, navu of the staring flowers of the 
Helianthus would, doubtlew, Ikoe the solar beams. 
Pr, Darwin, iu his Loir* of the rianfii, describes 
the sunflower as watching the course of the i»un 
rather than turning round with it : — 

" With xealoQB rtep he climbi the upland lawYi, 
And bows in homtj^e to the riiing dawn; 
Imbibefl vith eafcle oje the golden rav^ 
And wfttchea, as it moves, the orb of oav/* 

The simile« of poets arc ofttr 

they are not to be reive* 1 on a.^ 

That sunflowers in gardens may Lt 

sun may be true, but to say that .< 

Cowley expresses it, " follow i ^ 

he turns," is incorrect. Pr- 

wjia a good botanist, has atatvu m 

four flowers on the Barae stem poiiir 

canlinal points ; and, as I can texi..,, 

means unoommon in a ^roup of suiii 

perceive their staring dial-like coui 

rodiant and golden as the petals are, poiniiiig Uf 

every quarter of the compL«s» 

Edwik Lkkb, F.I*,8, 
Green Hill Summit, Worcester 


— Middle TEMPLA.Rwill find the story n II u. 1.^1 
by Blackstone in vol. viii, p. 2^6 iqo,. 
Acts and Monurnents, edited by the : 
Townshend, M.A. (Seeley, Burnside ^ 
London, 1849.) The authorities there quo^ 
Dicey's Hiaiory of Qunrnsey, p, 48, and Ha 
Survey of Guernsey and Jtrsey, The gist ( 
matter was as follows : — 

In May, 1556, Katherine Cawchea and Utf ti 
daughters, Guillemtne Guilbert and Penjtin 
Massey, were trieil in Guernsey for theft and < 
honesty, and acquitted t but the - 
as to character which ass^isted in 
acquittal proved also that they wt i 
to the commands of the Roman t_ 
They were consequently taken intocu ^ , 
time, and kept in prison. The Bailitf, Lieut 
and Jurats placed the matter in the Imuds 
Dean and C unites, and the accused weit 
examined, declared by the clergy to l>c ha 
The Bailiff and Jumts ordered an examh 
which aceordLngly took place, that of each i 
being mode separately. On the 4th of iJulr ' 
Dean and Clergy delivered to a full Court of tl^ 
Btiiliff and ten Jurats their act and sentenei 
namely, that the accused were heretics and ahou 
be sentenced to b« burnt. The three wotoen ' 
then sent for to the Court, where they profw 
themselves willing to conform to f I 

n:tnces, but were condemned n 
They then appealed, but un •• 
Crown. At the time of c\i 
were set up. At the n» id die ; 
the elder daughter on the n 
I he left. They were first t>trn _, 
broke before they were dead, and thev ir»>pp 
into the tlame^J, Perotioe, who Wii« dieu in 
advanced ntate of pregnancy, fell on her hide ai| 
burst. The infant felt into the Ere, and oQ 
\\\ Houi$e, took it out and laid it on the 







[TJM child wii* tftltoD to the Provost (PrMt)^ and 
to the BjiililT, who ordered it to 1>p carried 
tiiinin and cusi into the lire, where it waa 
urn mother, ,fi:randiiiotber, lind iiunt. 

I Qce of thi* pro<:eediiig, Katherine's 

:vi;trthew, appealed to Lbo (JSueen in 1562, 
the Bean wna dkspoH^cssed ol" his livings and 
whereupou the Bailiff, J unit a, Deun, 
ititioned for pardon, and recei%'«?d it* 
A, DE L. Bammond, 

The account which Blatkstone rjiiotes may be 
found in Foxe's AiU and Moniiiit4^HU. edition 
ldGd<, vol. viii, part i. p, 226. It is headed — 

" A Tragical. Lamentable, and Pitiful History, full of 
ih* mott cniel nnd Tyrannical murder done by the pre- 
tenMri CtttKalie* upnri thre« wunieu and ati Infant ; to 
wit the mother, her two dftu^hters. and the ohUd. in the 
!«)« of Oti^rniey, fop ChrisfB true ReUgton, July 18, the 
jmf of our Lord, 15f>6." 

TV- -»'"-^^ U lamentable enon^'b, but it seems to 
Oie rary to the nature of things that th<5 

imci': _ - be tale which give« to it such exceed- 
ii^ hoiTor can have happened in the ordinary 
cotsrie of nature. I concUule^ therefore, either that 
th4> ruiin who first divulged the at^ry lied, or that 
a miracle was wrought for the purpose of giving to 
the penecuiora a chance for additional cruelty. 

K. R D. R 

Tlie best thin$r which your oorrespoodent can do 

b to resid the r*tory in Fore's Acis aud MimuincnU, 
.er« and voudiers appended for the 
ibters. No human being ever wrote 
nt (xaiid hAve written a work of that siie, derived 
chicflr from oral evidence, without some mistakes ; 
bttt the more I use his works— «nd I have done so 
pretty larjt^ely^the more thoroughly I am con- 
d of the perfect honesty and general tnist- 
liness of the old raartyrologist. It h the 
to sneer at Foxe as an authority, but I am 
aoff^r to see that «neer in the pages of '' N. & Q." 


Turn Tmrnrt^xm a»i> HosriTALtuRs (5** S. ii. 
IKK) — The distinction in dre^s between these two 
ooient was thai the former wore a white robe with 


and the hitter a black robe with a 
The Templars origiDally had no 
' - but, wnen their order received 
n of the Council of Troyes, in 
'^r•^^ adopted. The red croaa 
^ IIL in 1I4C. The Hew- 
: oTHTftnization, selected for 
;ii ii: il .[ i^^lio with a white cross 
; ii Ireast : and when they 
I d du Puy, in 1 1 1 8, as a 
.'oially enjoined that — 
! ^li^Jl I -jir npoQ their 
■ rd. r tli:u tbcy wiay re- 
DL»rr (o LK-iir in ir>f.Mr iicaiiv tlie oro«i of J^tui Chriit 
I adociiad with the eight virtoM which accocnpaiky it/* 

& ird 

IIS^ a ^. 
«aa abided 


Alexander IV., in a Bull published at Anagni^ 
in 12r>9, makes a distinction net ween the Knights 
of the Hospital an<t the inferior classes, by ordering 
thiit they shall wear black miintles, but in battle 
and campaign '^ surcoats and other military decora- 
tions of a red colour, on which there aball be a 
cross of white colour sewn on in acoordance with 
that on your standard." The servants of the order, 
who were permitted to marry, wore a demi-ccosB 
of three branches. J. CstARLES Cox. 

U axel wood, B«lp«r. 

The H "s— the older order— wore a black 

habit V. ute cross of eight points on tlie 

breast. BuL alter the suooessful defence of Khodes 
ogninst the SamceiiB, in 131 L the Grand Master 
adopted in :i ' : ' ' ' '' ' r letters 

F. E. R.T.,fi UfMiiL 

Those of tht- uiun ^iuk-m I'^tjnu*^, r'l iiKUU-CTOSBe^ 

and who were allowed to marrv, wore a goldttli 
croas of ikrce branches, those of the knights, chap- 
laliia, and servants, having four. Their true 
badge, boweverf was the white cross of eight 
points, as the other could not be worn without a 
special order from the Grand Mast-er. 

The Templars wore u white habit, to which Pope 
Eugenius III. added a red cross on the breast. 
Their *" banner —the Btausrant — waK of black and 
white, inacribetiwith the motto, JVo« nobis^ Dfimint, 
uon fwbi4, 6td nomini /tw) da jhrianu'' The a^ai 
of the order was two men seateil on one horse. 
Edmcnd Tew, M.A. 

This paragraph reminds me of a question I have 
never been able to answer. These knights are 
always! called priests ; but when and how were 
theyordainett t Was it before their knighthood, 
or after I Was it, as a matter of course, by the 
bishop in whose diocese they were, or had they to 
seek their orders from any particular bishop ? And 
on receiving knighthood, did they go through all 
the minor orders at once, or were these given while 
they were squires I No doubt St. Bernard's liuUs 
of the Tcfiipk would answer me ; but I have no 
means of referring to his works. 

Charltm? F. S. Warrkn, M.A. 

John OHUKCinLL, M.P. for Nkwtown, 1879 
(5^»» S. iL 110.)— If Sir Bernard Burke (who has 
lately come off rather badly in ** N. & Q.") may be 
trusted, *' in 1679 Marlborough attended the Duke 
of York into Flanders, and the following year into 
iScothind." C. F. S. Warrex, M.A, 

** My chaise thb viLiMas i»y did o ai^c '* (5** 
S. ii, no) was written by Samuel Roberts of 
Sheffield, a manufacturer, and u m.'in of grwt 
activity and benevolence. It was entitled Ttt^ 
iJrj>h/nt4, and was sent to Jamc* ^lontgomery, 
Sheffield, for insertion in the SJuiffidd IrLt, This 
was the commencement oC th« }fii^SL ^Tc«^^j2wk^ 




which afterwunU exiftt^^d between these two good 
men. The lines appeared In the Iris in November, 
1804^ and Mont^ottierj*, in a note to the ^mter, 
spettkB of ** the ntfertinjjf deii;^ht with which he 
had frequently read theiu*' ; see HolIand'M Life of 
Mont^OTitery, roL ii., p. 55» The ballaji jipp4?;trA 
in mtiijy coliections, and is stated to be anon vinous. 

1. J. 

"Kraa Coal's Levee" (b^ S. ii- 110.)— Ihuve 
thU, on the title " By John Scafe, Esq,/' 12'\ pp. 3^, 
Alnwick, Grahura, i8l8» with a Poeticid Address, 
1 pfVjie and '* Note. The i^oitmtitic reader will 
perceive that this jca tl^nprit hoa reference only to 
the geologiad feuturei* and order of stnitification of 
England and Wales." Of this only twenty- Hve 
copies were printetl lor private circulation. The 
4t.h edition, lti'\ D^nd., 1^20, with the addition of 
Conybeare and Buckland's enlargements, thelirst 
to the text, and the hvst to the notes, extends to 
pp. 119. Ktnff Coal was followed, in 1820, by— 

" Court News : or, the Peers of K. C. a.nd the Errant b i 
or, II Survej of Briti&b btratft, with Explaimtury Notci. 

A- Q, 

TiTE Houses of 8tfart and SuTHEULAxn (:j*** 
B, ii. 85.) — There can be no doubt whatever that 
Mn. KtLGOiTR is mistaken in his assertion that 
" the House of Sutherbmd ought t« have succeeded 
to the throne of Scotland, according to the driH 
principles of le^al representation, on the death of 
King David Bruce in 1371, and not the House of 

The succession to the crown was expressly 
limited, by acts of Parliament, to the isano of the 
Princess Marjory, eldest dnu^'hter of King Robert L, 
failintf his ovm male iAsue, or that of his ouly son 
David ; .so that it is doubtful whether even u 
dau;j:hter of the latter could have succeeded to the 
Scottish thn>ne. King David II., througli personal 
dislike to his lej^d heir-iipparent, Hubert Stewart, 
and being hopelessly childless hiinaelf, did attempt 
to alter tlie succea«ion in favour of his own sister's 
son, John, eldest son of William, Earl of Suther- 
land, by the Princess* Margaret de Bruce ; but the 
consent of Parliament was never given to this, and 
the young omn died in 13B1, at Lincoln, while a 
hostage there for the ptiyment of his uncle's ransom 
Mto England, for relonjie frtira captivity thero be- 
ween 134fi and 1357, Even in Llflli another 
futile attempt was m.ide by David IL, an un- 
worthy son of the gallant Robert L, to make 
Lionel, Buke of Chijence, secoml son of Kinj^ 
Edward IIL, his sucLt»R»(ir, a propjsition indig- 
nantly rejected by the nation and Parliament of 
Scotland. 'A. 8* A. 

liichtnonU* * 

**StreeL'* pt^ S. ii. im.)—Stnd is to me a 
quite familiar word, although the dictionaries do 
not give it, " She went stieelittg ulotig down the 

street." meaning trailing nlong with Hfr<?rtJ!^ti<*n^ | 
but still in a leisurely fashion, an i 
kiml of zigzag motion. It i« .nppan ] 
of the word stroll. The Swiss jfrj o> 
about, is pven by Wedgwood, accompaDicd by* 1 
quotation from Bfvth's iltfshandryj 1052, in which 1 
the wonl to droyU about occurn. Sfnuhf, a* longi 
and lean, is given by Halliwell as a Suffolk word. 

a A. Warb. 

Br. F. H. Strsitnunn, in his Biiira{f$ tu 

WitTtttbuche dtr Englischcn Sprachc^ Krefeld, 1$CB3 
notices the following use of gtnrl (not CenikJ 
slmUn^ radiiirc) by Thackeniy : *': '^' - 
train thut ftfrethd after her like the i 
Vaaitfj Foir^ L '2U, ^lany modern, i..^ ..i.d ' 
vinciaiiams are entered in this very useful Heitra/jr^'^ 

F. J. Y. " 

An instance of unnotice*.! derivation from iLaliftit | 

seems to me to occur in the F ^ " 

In Antonelli's Dieiionarij (] 

for oneof itsme^ininj^, **meditiuniLitii[in im* 

A man star-gaziwj, aa he walked, might wrll H\ 

feaid to atroll S. T. P. 

The Frencu Word '* Yecx " (5"» S. ii. ini.Wl 
Dr. Chance says that ycux in in one i 
most singular word he is acquainted with, i 

as it does not contain a single letter of the woi\ 
(iculuff, fi-oin which h(* belic-ves it to be deriv 
There are many words in our too;:;ue of wh 
same may be sfdd. Jonrual is fourth in ( 
from Dies: dies, diurnus^ giomo (Itol.), 
joumaL OCTlt. 

Riaely. B*ds. 

The American ^^tk-vv^ r.tu g^ n «§ ^— Tn iI.aI 
origin of nimics cf -^ n by Cor. 

be added the popui .which! *] 

Triibner'a JAitrary iUcordy No. i7, Augnat 
1867 :— 

"Mttiiie is popularly kaown jis Tim Lumltror Pi* 
Trr4 tStntr; New Hampshire rs T.*<f ^rftni^f 
Vermoat nn The Grtai Afo ^'1 

aft Tht liny StaU ; Rbode I 

ace tie lit «js Tht Nutmm "r .' \ 

OS Thi Emptrr or Ej-<-' 
KttfStofte ^ate ; heh' 
.Stat^ ; Vlrg'mia u- 7 - . 
Sfntfx ; South <_'nr:.!ir!;i -a^ !'■.■■ / 
CrtroliniiRa Tht nfJ A"rfA ■':■ 7 
sifipi aa The Batfoa StaU ; J 
Ten^«f^fl€t; iv» The Hit/ Bm 
Bigrdfyiltg a curv "^ ' 

Th> /: n ii* rV ' 

Ark I*fwn as J 

CivliJ;..j...,: ^^ . ,... L...,_,. .LdU ; Tetiks a^. .... i,^., 

It will be ohscm'ed that only twenty-four of I 
States are included in the preseoit list. 

6»8. tl. Aoa.20,74.J 



ftome other coi-respondent can suppler the populi 
aawps r/f the remaimng States. E. A. P, 

iGosrATaic (5**» 8. u. >^7.)— Your correspondent 
M be rety welcome to any information in my 
;..., \.,,, T „„> nrrj^ t<» «ay thut I can throw 
no! „jx. There does not Appear, 

»i>t^ - ...,. L.,. ,^t extendi*, any connexion of 
Oo9patric with the Earls of Huntingdon or 

ChC!»t<?r. HEnStENTRlTDE. 

Poem bt T. K. Hkii%*ky (5««> S* ii. 89.)— If 
An OK, will turn to the collected edition of Thontus 
Kibble Hervey's Poemt^ nublislicd ut Bitston, U.S., 
in 1S66, Ticknor &^ Fields, he will fiml, iit p. 76, 
the poem he ia seokin;?. It is entitled " The Quiet 
L&Bd/' and consists of eijrht stinzas altogether. 
William E. A. Axoii* 

SaHdwich Islands (5«^ S, ii. IKk)— Tlie Prin- 
C0M Victariii KaAnianou-Koahoumanou (K:tnmmaLi- 
Kiuihuuianu), of Hawai, or the Sundwieh Isles, wj« 
bom on November 1, 1838, and died in ISVAl ishc 
^ ma iiiter of two former kings of those ishinds : 
iler Liholiho KajruJiamtha IV, (born Feb- 
raiLtj iK ISMy succeeded, an ** adopted son," to King 
Knm€h4im4ha III., on December 15, 1854, and died 
in November, 1863), and Lot Kartuhaineha V. (born 
Deceiober 11. 1834:», suoceeded bus brother on the 
' "^ 'or, 1863^ and died December 1 1, 

- were children of the Governor 
■ neoftheduu^'hterRofKinjLj 
L monai'ch of the^ie iMlanda ; 
.,, — ^... i ,..,^c^a wtks, during the reign of 
^brother. Kameluiroeha IV,, Prime Minister, or 
DlKna ninJ* A* S. A. 


r ' 1 NCIL JCDUMEKT : LiDDELL t". Wks- 

TKi . iL 128, 157.)— I beheve Utrum will 

kfin^i \ur usiis to be as follows- The judgment of 
the Priry Council, iia delivered in IS57, asserted 
ijp t, "- *' t-'cond Prayer Book of Edward VL, 
Wmi* '"T consecration of the elements was 

BBt; .., .;, a^'b in the present Prayer Book it is 
TtmU>T&L" Unfortunittely this statement of fact, 
ring in a solemn judgment of the iinal Court 
al in ecclesiastical causes, was false ; and 
irho objected to the Court took care to c;lI1 
iioD to it It wrw jLirobably for this reason 
iin the coHei'tion of Privy Council judgments 
Tail, Mr, Brodrick, and 
joneotis statement U cor- 
I tiuili -ubHtiiut*:*<l, that "material 
y introduc*'d in the prayer of uon- 

I thank F. S. A, and Mr. WAiiRKiir for their 
kind antl lucid ^oUitions; of my difliculty. I am 
to understjind that; the former (Sumner and Tait) 
wna a judicial misstatement of fact, and that the 
latter (Tait and others) m\A a privily sub-stitated 
after-thuught. Two queries present themselvea: 
1, Wa,s not a fixed table or idtJir removed on the 
strength of the former i 2, Was it rentored on 
the cr>nfe^aion of the latter? I write this in no 
polemical spirit, bat piu-ely in the interests of 
honesty and trutk Utrum. 

" OuRISTlAyiTY AS Old AB CREATION^ &C. (5*** 

S. ii. 149.) — This is perhaps the best-known work of 
the best'- known of the Deif«tical writens of the early 
nart of last centurj^^Matthew Tindid. There is a 
mil account of it in the Biographic Britannko, 
and I should think in most other dictionaries. 


TuK Bmi»ebor Alexander II. (5'*» 8. i. 464 ; 
ii. 3€, 55, 72, 96-)— t) wing to ray nbdenoe, I have 
only just seen Mr. Dilke's reply. Will you 
allow me to put the following questions to him ? 

(1.) When doe-s he imagine that the title Tzar 
was ftrst applied to the Russian sovereign ? 

(2.) Will he be so good as to mention any rtcent 
Russian scholar of eminence who has denied the 
word to be Slavonic 1 

(3.) Docs he wbh to assert that the Polish for 
Tzar is ihar ? If so, he must be sent again to hif* 
Lindr. There ia no such word in Polish \ if there 
were, it would be pronounced Otar. The true 
form is Car (pronounced T^tir), 

Mu, Dilke, who no doubt is acquainted with 
the modern Russian language, thinks that either 
in the hurry of writing, or from a typographical 
error, my note has the two forms Uar and ixar. 
Surely he knows that the corresponding Russian 
letter may very well be expressed in either way. 

W. R. jMorfill. 

Mauv op BuTTKn>fERE (5**" S. ii. 47, 114.)— 
Tiiere is a short accf^unt of her in A Companion 
to tht hakts of Ciimhfjland^ IFtJitmorehnd, and 
Lanof^ihire, by Edward Baines, Jun. (3^1 edit., 
London, 18^1). Froui this we learn that her name 
was Maiy Robinson, that she was the irlaughter of 
the innkeeiier at Buttermere, and that she was 
seen in 1792 by Cu]>t. Bud worth, who, in his 
Hamhh^ described her as— 

*' An eminently beautiful yet simple and artless |drl of 

fifteeOf nrhote manner and app«iarance, «o unexpected in 

such a spot, hfld channed liiui. This panegyric drew 

mnny traTellers to Butte nn ere, and directed alt eve* on 

I ttifai peasant Flattery enough Vfos adJre«sed 

'orriit her simplicity ; but Bhe prewrvcd htr 

■ :ii(^ and tm^UFpeeted. At leugth, iu ttia 

n as deceived into niarriaife by an outlawed 

name of Huttield, wlia had for pome time 

A^'rV' ' I '*'^"f^'' ti^nircd in this f*art of the eoontry under the 

A. C, I uaine of the Honourable C^loucV R.«^, ^% VWl ^Xvt 



[F'S.II, Ai?o,2J>,7i. 

ftddreis mud Ul«tit to tupport his Msuined character, 
but. heiag ditoorervd, b« wm ftpprehend«d, tried at 
Oftni^te on » etiar^ of forgerf, and banged within a 
ytuT after bia murtttge. Tbe jo^^ag widow ucted in the 
most becoming manner nndtr her misfortunes, &nd after 
eome years married agnln. This match was happier 
than the former; the and herhuiilmnd for a coneldemble 
period kept the inn which had been her father's, and 
uved in much comfort. AVben I inquired about her of 
the present Landlady of this inn, I was told that she had 
quitted Buttcrmerei and now lived iu a village near 
Bassenthwaite Water; it was added that she htul seven 
children, and was in comfortable cireurattaneei.** — 
Balnea's Companiant pp. 179-180. 

F. A. Edwards. 

Through the kindness of my friend Frederick 
Reed, Esq,, of Hassnees^ Butt^rmere, I am enabled 
to give your correspondent Fitz Reginald the 
information he deaties respecting Mjuy of Butter- 

Her real name was Mary BobLnson, and nhe 
died of cancer about thirty years ago. She nmiried 
again, a man named KicbRrd Harrison, xind had 
two sons and three daughters. None of her family 
are now at Buttermere. One of the dimghters is 
dead, but both the sons are still living. Little is 
known about one of them at Buttermere, aa he 
" went down into the shires when he was young," 
and never visits his native county. The otber son 
lives at Thiatlebottorn, BoUoo Gate, in Cumber- 
land, and is still proprittor of the Flfih Inn at 
Buttermere, He rents a good farm of Lord Lecon- 

Mr, Keed adds the foUowiog particulnrs : — 

*' Mary of Buttermere was not the htautiif she is repre- 
iVDted to hare been. She carded herselif well, but got 
lo be coarse featured. Wordsworth und he Quincey are 
"both Tery romantic on the subject of her marriage, kc, 
Wordsworth, speaking of the child she had by Matfield, 

' Beside the mountain chapel ileep« in earth 
Her new bom infant.' 
l?ow there is not, and never has been, a buriAbgrotind 
at Buttermere, and it would pu««Ie folk to moke ifrares 
in the rook on which the present cliap«L stands, and the 
late chapel stood, though Wordsworth repeats — 
*Thy nameless babe that sleeps 
Bflflide the mountain chapeL undisturbed.* 
Be Quinoey aayt, ' I know not whether the marriage 
was, or cfluld hare been, ceTebrated in the little mountain 
chapel of Buttermere- If it were, I pentuiide myself 
that the most hardened ritlaiQ must have felt a momen- 
, tary pani; on rtolating the altar of such a chapel, so 
loncbingly does it express,* &:c. Now, marrtnges were 
BOt celebmted in Buttermere chapel until alx>ut nine 
'years ajro, when I procnred n licence from the Bishop. 
Mary of Buttermere was married iu the church of Lort<in, 
and I believe by the then clergymaa of Buttermere, 
whoM name was Nichobon/' 

I have ventured to add the above remarks of my 
informant, in the belief that they will be interesting 
not only to your correspondent, but l<l«o to many 
of the readers of '' K «S; Q." C, B, Hicb. 

Thk Scrname Barnes (4"» S. xii. 496 ; 5*^ S. 
i, 56, 97,) — Tewabs cannot suppose for a moment 

that I ^* gravely assert " what he says ; and, in 
truth, I did not expect him to ** rush into print " 
of a violent type on m small a provocatiotL Th« 
asEertion looks less *' ivstounding " in MS. thao J 
print, and particularly in italics. It would \iav 
been fairer to have simply put theqn v ' 
the usual marks. But I have no < 
form Tbwahs that sis no Barnes oi ci 
of which I wrote was a knight (as erer^ 
like Tewaju? must know)» the T>hrase> ** fArtV i 
were h(uk(d off in tru*i ftunal ftishlon" is, 
course, a mere rhetorical tiourisfa, which Tew^ 
not justified in tJourishing in my face an 
done. As to the second part, ** aW riw/ 1 
of their e^xigtence mui enuof from Uu mrrM j 
of the heraldt," I say that if such had been 
case by " judicial sentence," it would have i 
them very well right. But whoever heard of i 
a easel I aiu certain that Tewars ney« 
therefore I think Tbwars** question, as be i 
is not at all pertinent^ but veiy imp^srtinen 
have now to explain that in a oonvertation wit 
the late lamented Mr. King, a herrtl- * 
perience at the College of Anns, 
through aU their records in vain .-. 
relating to ^ Barnes,^' he entirely concurred in mjj 
suggestion that everything might have been Uttm 
from the books on their attainder of high trawov. 
But the aaaertion, as I put it, is too tNiKitrve far ^ 
Tewars. I did not think, as I hnn 
how "grave" "'assertions** may ^t 
most insignificant matieiB} so I mui»l :> 
But if Tewars will only consider for n 
that a too oonspicuous and nobori' 
they had been for generations in 8er:i , 
county like Middlesex, coidd scarcely liuTc ls 
the eyes of Heralds' College^ like scores of faniili 
of even very large estates in remoter count' 
will probably admit of the existence of a ^ 

f) resumption that at one Visitati<in * *V 
east, the Barneses genealogy was il 
If Tewars wnll nho consider for ai^ 
he wiU also probably admit that the V' ri i - ? ^ if | 
hemlds (whether they felt it or not; wuuiii 
w^th indignation at such treason, and, to hbd4 
their affection to the new order of things, tuil 
public hangmen for the occasion, and bum •? 
scnvp of paper I'clating to the famUy, 
I have now to put a question !<' 
whether he can show that the genc;. 
who conspired along with the Barnes aic mt 
the regjiBters of the Hendds / And if so, ^ 
each of tho^e n ' ' ' 

notorious for t 

And if so, whi'iiici- iJi- 1-1 Muiv ui;iL 11 

pedigrees remain untouched had not *' 
court/' to U3e u vulgarism, or that the j.^i 
pedigrees be may find did not escape, at tho tin 
the notice of the heralds ? 

In cooclusion, I will observe that wb^n 




were ftHAintM in blood to the extent they were, 
there U nothing t«o ** sjstounding'' in the ** as- 
tounding statement," nor so extmordinfiry in the 
** cxtraoniinary proceedings," that should htive 
ItaliAnized the pen of Tbwars so completely in 
the heated eloquence with which he brings forward 
this very grave qneetlon* T. H. 

Btk'j1i*8 "SiisoB OF Corinth" (S*** S, I 4«J6 r 
ii, m)— W. A, a writes, ** The first quotation '^ 
(▼iz.^ " In the year since Jeans died for men ") ** is 
'\ horn the Siege of CoriTttJi:' Htul he snid that 
lines were not in the edition of IHlfi he 
fcve been right, but they most cert*iinly 
oera to thnt jioem in the fine edition 
I und in all sabsequent ones I have seen 
by Murray. In cheap and incomplete 
^by other publisheni they are often omitted ; 
ow not. W. A. C. adds, ** Lines which 

I in imitjition of CoIeridgeVi Cltrisiabd" 

? will find in the foot-note of the edition I have 
before me, vit., IS.^7, that Byron " had never read 
(^rutuhd at the time when he wrote these lined." 
William Whistos. 

Mm. Srrrbs (6*>»S. ii, 141.)— In his interesting 
of Mrs* Serre.^ worfci, Mr. Tboms (p. 142, 
, 6) quotes the OtntkmanJt Magazine in refcr- 
^ Ui her ftssnmption of the name of WiJmot. 
Tki BioQTafthital Didhnanj of Liring AnihorSj 
'916' ^ xnl.nm.^ it as follows : " It is proper to ob- 
e her separation from her husbaml, 
nence of the ill-trejitment which she 
hM ♦xjivrifyneed, she ha^ conmionlj colled herself 
p^^iimot.'* 1 hope Mr. TnoM8 will be Buccessfid 
la iirocttiing those works he hain not. 

Olpiiar Hahst, 

Marmimbt Herbert (5"> S. i. 140, 4(M»j ii. 37.) 
— H'i^*v'-r (lnl>iiU]< tiiNV h:\vp been iSIr, Dismeli^a 
f^eate the character of 
ii ^ I : , It of Vfnetifi was cer- 

intended to represent that poet, and not 
Brrr>n. In Book ii. c. 4, of Vcndiat Marmion'a 
pBT* mnce is thus dpscribed : — 

'' ' rTi&fice vfta of iinjKuUr lovelineu &nd 

wwcr. , . , On each side of the cle&rnnd open brow 
now Ii Jul et<n (o the i^boulder^ the cluBterini; locks of 
^ildcB b*ir : while the (^jes larg« And jet deep beftmed 
wHh • ifiiriluil ener^.'* 

Tljt< tvirTv^rMrriil ultli the descriptions of Hhellcj 

hf ) Mcdwin, Trel;iwn*»y, and 

flib* if ani'lv ill any respect to 

Ix^r i rri hair, and was 

the novel, many of the 

■ nre recorded ; and epcak- 

ithor says, ** thry were 

tried." Now, every 

I'M wiis the populiirity of 

Hki iheix first appeai^ance ; 

while the masterpieces of Shelley were neglected 
by the mass of readers, and derided by the critics. 

Byron was not a ** violent republican," nor was 
he ** tirst an atheist,'* afterwards *' a Pbit^nist," nor 
was he ** fond of quoting Greek." These were the 
chttnu'teristica of bhelley. 

If Mr. Fowke has read that splendid poem^ 
Laan and Cythna^ or The EttoU of Jilam, as it wa* 
ttfkerwimls ill named, and will compart? it with the 
following description of Herbert's poem in the 
la»t- mentioned chapter of Vtmiia.^ he will discoTer 
an analogy between them not to be mistaken : — 

" Herbert celebrated that fond world of hij imagina- 
tion, wliich he wished to teach men to lo^e. In ituixae 
glittering >Nith the mott refined imagvfl, and re«oiuuit 
with the moflt lubtle Bymphonj* he c&Ued into creation 
that societr of imDiacal&te parity and unbounded enjoy- 
ment which be believed was the natural iaberiKance of 
UDAbackled man. /a thi htro hi pietuftd a phH69opk«r, 
iftmmf und ffijttd aa ktmattf: iu the hermn*, kit uUa of a 

ptrftct woman The public read the hf-tfiry ftf an 

ideal world, and of creiiture$> of exquisite 1 ' I in 

iangUBge that alike dawled tlieir fancy, *« .d 

their ear. They we re lost in a delitjious mnzt: : i__. - hof 
and nmfie/* 

This kind of praise applied to anjr of Byron'a 
poems would be absurd, as it would imply a t<ptal 
ignorance of the character of that great poet's 

In the eighth chapter of the sixth book of 
I'endia^ Cadurcis aska Herbert — 

" ' Wh&t if poetry but a lie^ and what are po»fct bui 
liar* 1 ' 

*■ ♦ Yoo ape wrong, Cod arc i«/ snid Hcrtiert, ' po«t$ uri 
the KjtttchioitUd^ed leffulat&rf nf Ott world*" 

lliese are the very words of Shelley himself in the 

last sentence of hia Lkftnct of Podry^ and the 

queation of Cadurcis recalls the lines in Ihm Juan : 

*' Poeta are such liars, 

** And take all colours like the handa of dyert/' 

After all, it is questionable whether Mr. Disraeli 
has been moro successful in describing Byron than 
Shelley. Many will regard both as laihires. 

W. T, B. 

Raiickk Eiders (5^ S. L 203, 271, 419 ; ii. a?, 

" And on hii match as much the Western horseman lays. 
As the rank riding Scoti upon their CSalloways," 

IXraytou's Pal^olhton, the Third Song. 
George R. Jesse. 

Lord Oollinowood (6«» S. ii. 48. 9a)— The 
last note on this subject is, unfortunately, no reply 
to the ori^nnal query, re»pettinp Captain Barker, 
who married Sarah, sister of the j^nreat admiral* 
Since, however, the lineage of the family lia* been 
brouiiht into the quealion, I am unxvillinf?!y in- 
duced to deny that the admiral was descended 
from a " niece of the Fair Maid of Kent." No 
proof whatever has been adduced in support of 
such an assumption ; but if the evidence ^lis^ 
and is produced {j& l\\^ ^^Mv^^ Vtk& tb^ t\^v Xft 



fS^S.n. Aua,a»,7l. 

exjwct when such fi clttim is put forwnrd), I ahnlJ 
be only too luippj to retract. In the nieantuiie, 
however, my scepticism is, 1 think, fullv justified. 


" Yakgb Monday " (5«» S. ii 28, 74.)— I have 
little doubt that this means Gang Monday,— that 
is the ilonday in Rofr^tion week. The Bog:atir)n 
d«y8 i*'ere called Gatm darfos before the Norman 
Conquest, and Gang <iiya they are stiU, rm I huve 
understood in the folk-speech of the northern 
counties. Bishop Jewell uses the word in his 
Exfosiiwn upon the l^teand EpMt U> ihi ThtMa- 
huiatis^ chap. ii», ** They have used in Ivome» in 
iheir geneml processions in tjanQ-weckj to go to 
these seven hills," — Purker Soe.. edit., p. Ulb, 

Henry Machyn, citizen nnd merdmnt lay lor of 
London, tells u;* in his diar^^ under the year l^&\ 
"In gainic wyke, c^Uyd Hogasyon weke, they 
whent a preaessyon with baners in dyvera pkues.*' 
—P. 236. 

Many more examples of the use of this term 
raAy he found in Ellis'a BratuTs Fomilur Auti' 
quit It jr, 1813,1. 172. Edward Pbacock. 

Bottesford MAnor^ Brigg. 

"Pan » (5"^ S. ii, 9, 74.)— Pan in Panileld may 
be a slight coiruption produced l>y u trivial vowel 
change in the Celtic Pen ^= a sham or peaky hill, 
hence the *' Pennine chain" of hiJis, the ** Apen- 
nines," &c. Tlie spellioff of the second syllnbte — 
thus **ffeld" — takers us back to a time anterior to 
the !!p|x^Uation *• hard pan/' as applied to the sub- 
soil by agriculturists. When Jie?a was spelt ** Held," 
it had not the coutnict^d sense now associated with 
it^ but generally represented a large tract of open 
land, or campus, deai-ed of timber, 

a Chattock, F.RH.S. 

Cmtlc BromwicU. 

In my note-book » I find the following meaning 
of this word in connexion with a proverb i— 
** Weal imd wciaati canaot pan* 
But woe mud wo man can. 
♦ Poll. Expression ti*ed in tlio Eastern GotmtteB 
when the Barface of the soil is so closely welded together 
thni uo ordinary effbrti of liuibandry can make any im- 
presiiun on it."— From Uphill^ a novel, by Lady Wood. 


Panfield may be a conruption of Penfield or 
Penfold. R. S. Charnock. 

Gray'B Inn. 

**Kkwlyk *' {b^ 8, ii. 8, 63.)— The "derivation 
or meaning " of this name does not appear to be 
certainly known. The late Rev. Dr. Bannister, in 
hi."* Ghssary ofContuk Nanu.^^ defines it as '* New- 
pool " ; but adds, on tlie authority of Gwnvjis of 
Penzance^ who, with Tonkin, prepared a vocabulary 
in the eighteenth century, " = ni«/-i^(, in a fog or 
mist " ; and, in a foot-note, quoting Dr. Pryce, 
author of Mineraloifia Comubiefms^ 1778, ** The 

o|;»en or naked (nouth) hike (/j^i) ; and, quotiotr^ 

Mr. R. Edmonds, author of Z^ ^ ^ 

^c, '*near {ua) tho like." J 

** the chiuch of ^'citdyn Ea^t w.^.- 

to Si. Ne^vdina ; that of Newhjn ' , to] 

St. Peter." Wm. I -lt, 


'^ Mars nts sword " (5*** S. ii. 55.) — Somft 
remarks on this subject will be found in Ait^h 
bishofp Trench's Engli-ih^ Ptut and Pn^cftt, p. 11' 
of the tirst edition. In reference to the pa»>ui^o ii 
the pniyer for all conditions of men mentioned b 
* 'laruv, the Archbishop w rites :— 

** I cannot think that it would exceed the n'l*^"— •*- -f"^ 
our University Presaes if so palpable and * 
ungramniatioil form were rcmoTcd frnm i 
Bouk 8 which they put fartb, oa II 
is Bupprest by many of the clergy i 
would be only ueing here a libti:, ;..„... 
already oaaumed in tho cuee of the iiible. in all 
editions of the aMthori?e<l Vf^p^ion it stood oriifii 
1 Kings XT. '24, * Nevt rL ^ hut heart was 

with the Lord '; it ir; t now. In the 

way Nordicai hit inftti lii. 4) bos been 

changed into * Mordtcuts m&iiisti '; and in sonae m< 
Gdltion»j but not in all, * Holofenut hU head * ( Juditbi 
xiii. 9), into * Holof'trMs't bead.'" 

T. Lewis O. Davikbl 

Pear Tree Vicarage, Southampton. 

** All's over and tbr child's KAKB'a Ay*l 
thony" (5*^ S. I 46t^; ii. 13) is our veruon ofi 
this puzzling saying on a too late arrivid. 1 never I 
hcstrd it explalneii. M. 


Robert db Wycltp : Villenage (o**> vS, i. I-iTfl 
ii. 52.)— H, T. is wrong in saying tlmt " so hit as ' 
Littletons time " the law was "unsettled aa to th# 
enfnmchif«ement of the issue of the marriage of a 
niefe w itb a freeman." Littleton is expitss upon 
this point. He says : — 

*' Also, if a viUelae taketh a free woman, to wifi 
httve issue betweene tliein, the issues sh&ll b« rlT. 
But if a niefe tnketh a freeman to her husband, ' 
issue shall be free." 

And Bee Coke's comments on this 
Co. Litt.^ 123a. He cites as authorities 
and others of our oldest writers on law. In ( 
wall there was a peculliir cuptom. **Ibi pmtlt! 
Kunt pueri inter libera m pat rem et dominiim uxori* 
viilaua\" The really floubtful ]>oint in wbeth<:'r thJ j 
marriage enfranchised the nuft for evrr, or onlf \ 
during the continuance of the 
Co. Liii.^ loc. cit., and tlie note b} _ 

authorities there cited). Middle Tjiiiii^Aii, 


" WiGos" (,V*» S. i. 2<U, 474; ii. 138.)— Wiga^ 
are still to be had nt nrintlunn. in Linmln* 
They are nmde with 111 

supposed the name > 
Anglo-Saxon, which meaua whey, ^In. lUffiiJ 




llieT KxptTi€ntcd Ilonsck<fprr^ 17711, p* 274. gives 

n receipt for mnking "Light Wi^^s/* ^Irs. Oia.sse, 
in h<*r AH of Cooh:rif^ 1778, p. 27Q, instrucU the 
un^ " »w to make "Very goodWi^"; und 

T^ Econmnut, bv Mra Smith, lhir>, 

p. L'4<>, t^ive.^ u receipt for "Whig?/* 

Louisa Julia Kormak. 

Dr. Watts (b^ S. ii. 107.)— Mr. Tra^t very 
corrf'< ilv i*store» to Richartl rniahAw the credit 
of A\\l verses descriptive of the mirftcle 

at * I tiiink, however, the line — 

** The coQflcioua wa,tcr saw ltd God, and blusbed " 
— iji jgfeneRilly Attributed to Dryden, who, when a 
ichooUboy iit We'rt minster, j^eeriH to hnve been 
ijnpressecl by Cniishuw's example* Am I right? 
Crosbaw's lines run thus i — 
'* Fnfle nilK>r Testrw, et non lua purpura lymphiB 
■ rcaa miraDtcs turn nova uiutat aquas ? 
t: fcotiTiTO}) pnD&eita sLifnaacite Xuuicn : 
^^jinplbii pudica Deum vitlit, et crubuit." 

Hic ET Ubiqck, 

Wlio was first in the field to imitate Crashaw, — 
the author of the Bury Bit, or his contemponirj', 
Aaron Hill, whose lines on the turning of wuter 
into wine I append ? — 

V ri Cbriit, at Cnnu'i feast» by power dirine 
I ri.'d cold water with the warmth of wine* 
: ,, crv'd tliey, wliile in red'ninur tide it gushed. 
Ihc bMiiful ftteam hath seen iU God and b)u&h*d." 

W. W. 

Cot- IK CoL*Fox (5*^ S. i* pansim ; ii. 77.) — 
If St, Swithin's acceptation be lulnussible (p. 77), 
what are we to make of col-pi'itphd f Is this n 
"young/" ** little/' *' new-bom " prophet { I snb- 
Qut tlmt this rendering will not do. Turning to 

ilisy, I find ** colly (of coIe» or cnul), Ihe black or 
on the outride of a pot or kettle." Wedg- 
1 sjivs, "A shepherds dot;, from having its 
tt:' '. Sw. huUvg^ koliig, without boms, 

ir>i e meralKT that ought to be there.^ 

' iLTinal question, an able contributor to 

till ;d, Mr. IvALrn N. Jame-s, suggested 

to me ftumc time ago the French mlc, which Bo3^er 
rriHlcrs **ftkim,-* and gives us, ha a synonym of 
ht^urdt — *' a fib^ tt lie, or slmm." This would do 
qait* well for col^fox, or col-propkef. CoUy^ in my 
fypiaion, comeis jfrom quite a ditferent root. 

Edmu?;d Tew, ^I.A. 

It ii atAt^d in the Rev. J. G, Wood's Natural 
liiff^^f, p. 21>r», that the tails of some sheep-dogs 
^r- i in early youth on account of the now 

01 i wliich refiii?ed to acknowledge any 

iiog j^- J'' [> .Ii>L. ur to exempt it from tax, 

T ' lend.^ to confirm Mr. Wedgwood's 

iri, h laws extended to 8coth*nd were 

a^i'-Lvvi^ UL to the wop<l collie^ and caused the mati- 
alluded to. GEORiiE H. Jesse* 

Mr, Froitdk's "History" (5«* S. ii. 125.)— 
Allow me to remind 8. T, P. that this so-called 
" fact " is hearsiiy *' double-distilled." Possilily 
it may not, on that account, be out of place in IMr. 
Froude's HUtortj. Middlk Templar. 


Rteord* of the Past hehuj Sngluh ; 7*ra' . /' ' ihe 

Assyrian and Efjypliaii MoAumentji, Pi t 1 1 - 1 > I > under 
the Sanclion of the Society of Biblicii Au iia oJogy, 
Vol. IL Egyptian Texts. (Bagster k Sons.) 
Tuisaccond tolumo, like the former, takes un, in Tory 
trutbt into the far, far past. It is no fiHi^bt privilege to 
read in modem type the ete-nta of bygone nf^e^, rcveiLled 
liJtherto only in hieroglyphic and btenitit: cbarnctcrsu 
When wc consider how mutilated the papyri, and how 
iHejcrible the inscriptions of recent date often become^ 
the value and impurtancc of theso Hocorda cannot be 
lowly estimated. Fulsome flattery bestowed on monarcht 
19 not wanting* and probably to the lo« of importattt 
chronicler, but even flattery is here a boon. The events 
narrated nre clearly citpre^Sfd. It teemt, too, that the 
Eftjptian kingi had gencratly five, and, in aomc oaiet, 
iix titles and names. Two of the*c only are hi*toricaUy 
important ; the first, or the pr:enomen, beinir the aolaV 
or divine nfirn "' - 'the ftimily or birth name. 

The great nii records make* us feel that 

we are really ; ' < ' j»ast. while the authority, 

public and poUiic^l iu kind, causes this book to be a pro- 
duction rich in truth and hiitury. Many unaccountable 
dificrep ncics will probably hereby die a natural death, 
and Bib ical interpreters will welcome the new life with 
wliicb history is being inspired. Wo cannot speak too 
highly of both these volnmca. They are national contri- 
butions. The remaining uupubUiihed inscriptitin« may 
be looked for with pleasure, initiating us, as they will, 
into many mysteries of the oldest literature in the world* 

Tl(t Civil SfTvice JTaiulhook uf KngUih LiUrature. By 

II. A. I)ob«on. (Lockwood k Co.) 
This work^ though not the only one of its kind, ade- 
quately serTes its end. It indicates sourees of information 
to student*. Candidates for cicaminiitions m»y» by means 
of this work, with liitto labour, make a rapid and healthy 
digest of the rise and progress of English Literature. In 
a volumi: of some 290 pages, all philosophical researches 
are excluded. It« concieo form and cln ' ' ! nr- 
rangcnipnt cnhnnce the vigour of the ) ful- 

ness. The hiugraphies, terse in their <i 1 bo 

appreciated by readen restricted U* time. iJJViJoJ, con- 
ventionaUy. into eight chapter?, the various periods are 
^|,.; o.r., A...r^jjg(| Qyj (^p njemory. The ^..-.T-ifc ..r this 
J i ill not be diminished by the r liat 

\ I 1^ the editor of The Civil S' / <>/ 

7: J ;.ija/, iuid atsiitant editor of Th4 CivU 6ar><c C/eo- 

/^ftjfuE. Aftei^t and Modern. By Jolm Piggutt, F.S, A^ 

RO.a, FILG S. \ King & Co,) 
HovrKVFit many may bo the demerits of thii book, — they 
are for the most part, perhaps, m Oriental orthogranhy. 
— jti merits are nut a few. It lajs hold of that at which 
it has grasped. *• There is a demand,'* says the writer, 
** for information respecting the land of the Shall." Mr. 
Piggott has met this demand for information by pre- 
senting the public >»ith a supply of details compilcdfrom 
the best authorities on aubjects concerning Persia. The 
author exhausts no small part of a vast theme. Briefly 
touching on the ancient and legendary period*, be ^ak^a 




the reidcr into the modem hiitory of the country* He 
then plcMiintly idlures hioi into an acquaintauce with 
Peraift'B religion, literAture, conimerce and products, orti 
mod acieocefi, aumjj eduofttion and Janguage, wayt of 
truYeUbg, spurts^ wowen, crown -jewek, coalfields^ and 
the iilustrioui monarch recently a Tisitor at Buckingham 
Palace, Every clmpler is full of iuitnictii>n ; »o liiU* 
that wfl must refrain from quoting from itA 300 pvges, 
and, instead, recommend a perusal of its muny attractioiu, 
Pertiat Ancient and Modtrn ought to find a pUc© at 
once on the gheUes of public, lendLng^ and free libraries. 

Local Oaiai* ok the *' Retbospectivb Rkview." — 
A writer, under the initial *'C/' (which b that beginning 
the name of an old and honoureil correspondent of 
" N, & ^.," 3Ir. Jamks Crossley), states, in the Man- 
ckttter OuardiaHt that there is no foundation for the 
aflwjriton that the Retrospfctive Aprun;; from the Mnn- 
dijester Bihlinf/raphiana. Mel Cro^slet waa one of the 
writers in the itc(rotp*'ditV(, and haf " surrited, it ia 
beli4:fvcd, all thoae odsociated with him in the llrat tcries 
of that work/' which appeared more than half a century 

DuftHAK CATiiKi>UAL.— The excaTatioDi made on the 
rate of the Chapter Uouae have brought to Light many 
reUcs of mcdi»ral interments. A itone coffin covered 
by a alabf but without any inicription, was found lately 
in the centre of the Chapter House, a few feet below the 
original floor. The slab waa raised in the preeence of 
the ]>eun and other gentlemen. Iniide the coffin was 
found the skeleton of a womao^ four feet six inches in 
length, which presented the appearance of having once 
been wrapped iu liuenj some traces of which remained. 

The Saxon Chubcu At Bbacpordox-Avoj?.— Tbia 
invaloable and unique retic of early Christianity in 
We^sex ha« now beeti purchased, and m permanently 
secured. Tl)e work of reparation and preMrvation hai 
been, on the advice of Sir Gilbert Scott, itnintsied to the 
care of Mr. J. T. Irvine. About 5t)0/. Lave been cpent 
in the cost of purchase. As the funda in hund nre almost 
exhausted, and some 800^ are still required, intending* 
donors will do well to forward their contributions, 
without delay, to the Vicar, the Rev. W. U* Jones. 

Tub grave of Leonardo da Vinci has been diacovered 
within the Castle of Amboise. It was covered by a slab 
beoriug the great artiste name. The body was found in 
£Ood preservation. 

The " Young Roscius," Master Betty, who set England 
in a foolisli frenxy at his acting sixty-nlne years ago, 
died on Monday, aged S3. 

The ARCiTiK?lscorAL Lidbary at Lambeth Palace will 
be closed, for the receas^ for six weeka, from tl^o end of 
August. ^ 


Putl«u)ar« of Prk«, ac., of «very book to be trnt ilirtct to 
tile peTKo ^T vlium it ii required. wb«M hkihc aad Addrewi m,t* 
Civen for that purpoM :— 

Amik BARTiiiLifut Misciiit (8t. Leser]. Notice Raifoea^** d«s 

liisT of ' i(v Thouiuvd Pound* <<tTi.aied ht 

Hix uvt of hu Tralj Uij&l A»d tadf- 

scut I 

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