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WNDO!t, SATUHDA F, JUL V *, IS74.
COHTBNTS.— N» 27,
!!70TE8 :^^SfrWftlter Scott » 1— Shftkjsi(e*riftn4» 2— PoUt-Lort, 8
_i>hiirtPl-" Uving On*'! Ufa over A««ln "— Saeczlii^, 4—
•fhr iL<shm»Ji— •*Exami««it"— Old Fttnciml Cn*-
tf,, , WD—** Bonnte DuDdec," 5— Curioiu Xniwoa-
|<iUKRIl»:— •* lioAl* bcftforhif eoiry"— "Ublogihell/' 7—
■ **^n «!..., -^-FaJrnieL. tUe Ajiiit— Tlie ** OirmBgiioIo "—
Ht^ 1 1 vw Badite— James Pajriani — Matciuj-
** D«cK«r-6ikv)»p "—A '* W&ter'bUut^*' £r.
BBPLMS: — TUe Wonifworthi, d — Da QalBcoy: Goii|ch'«
F»;*, lO-Anloirfmph ot Bufoa : **To Termughtr on HiJ
Btrtlt-Daf/ 11— The Jowa in KoglAsd— UAOglii^ &Dd Uo«iu-
1 '-TAriniA Fentoa. DuchttU of Bolton— P»toriul
xtijQ aad KngU^h <4iianUty— Heraldic— '*Th"
;./' A:c—" There 'b tomewhat," &c., JS— Mr*.
sl.iik. ii.^ire Uoncottijuiee— Dr. WlUlam
marriflbge," &C.— Popular V<!f»ei
rl«ya oa " Play '—KoUi' Lore of
'• M&rkey " — Younga "Night
-•D«ide« — SeLzini; Ck)rpw» for
way ■— Buda— CowTwiT : Trooper
....,._ i . jwU»— Swam, 16— Claaiical Sign-
tioaitU • iianiuii ul VViriii«<*y— " How they brou<{bt,'' ^c.
— TUc SMnllowfr ^ Sbotten Herring — Thomaa Ffyo —
"Uloody* — T»- xvut-ri-,., RMd Peninsular Medals — 8t.
CkUi«ria« of .^ V> ell, Wisat Feltiju— dUrna
aaaPoeWir— i ie*Uo}ent.lS-"ilcguiAld
Tnrot* • Tall;. ^. : Atilgate : B*dcllffe Family,
1ft.
0aM.
BIB WALTER SCOTT.
Mr. Glftdstone, Ln a lecture on S^ott delivered
I at the Ha warden Literary Institution in February,
^1>^68, ?aid that we did not in theae days appreciate
t writer as w© ought, and thiit newer
- ibhioQi* had for ii whde (hut only for n,
.whdi:) obaaired hii< splendid fame. Mr. Glad-
letone confessed himself a devoted admirer of
I Bcott, whom on another ocaision ho termed " the
^fimt nmong the Bons of Scotland," and I dare
Ray he ejioke th« above words more in sorrow
I than in anger. ^ly reason for alluding to them
i. ♦»..! T „;.i. i.^ point out that a recent
r to prove that Mr, Gkid-
■ uiflniiil-. Ik,irt1f. :,i-k,| that
loubt
, _ dood,
ions with redoubled my." A
Aitken» kui just contributed a
' Golden Tre;ii>ury tSerieBj"*
and tki8 bnok purports
of the choicest lyricji of
mi (H^rafHitent to form an
ule with much good
I id tlie volume quite
Ul ine pt..)iit-c «►! iiH utle page in giving \i<
i chousett lyrical iio^lrv of tScotlnndj with, how-
ever, one notable exception. One name is con-
Bpicuously absent, and that name is— Sir Walter
Scott'B ! I do not mean that Soott is absolutely
and literally unrepresented j but, on turning to
the index, what was my surprise to find that
amongst the two hundred and ten pieces which
make up the volume, there was only a aingle one
by Scott, ** Jock of Hazeldean " ! I at first
thought that perhaps Missi Aitken did not con-
sider that Soott, although a Scottishman, wrot«
distinctively Scotch poetry ; but this cannot be
her reason for almost entirely rejecting him from
her anthology. There tire at least three pieces in
the book which, although written by Scotchmen,
are cjuite as much English as Scotch —Allan Gun-
ningbim'a " A wet sheet and a flowing sea," Hogg^s
" Skylark/^ and Locan's " Ode to the Cuckoo/^
Indeed, the first of these, so far fiom being Scot-
tish, h,is a particularly English flavour about it.
Now it would be easy to name six or eight of
Scott's lyrics which we might well expect to find
in a collection like Miss Aitken's — " Kosabelle,**
"County Guy," **Soldierj rest, thy wtufare o'er,*'
" O, Brignall banks are wdd and fair," " March,
march, Ettrick and Teviotdale," and the ** Red
field of HarLiw/* in the Ajitiquaryi those glorioua
verses which, as Sir Philip Sidney said of '* Chevy
Chase,*' stir the heart like the sound of a trumpet.
Some of the above lyrics, taking lyrical poetry in
its most restricted sense, tm meaning simply a Bong,
have perhaps never been surpassed, except by
Shakspeare, Bums;, and perkaps Tennyson in his
Pfineeis. Miss Aitken, however, goes still further,
and says (page 6) that Allan Bamsay is the second
of Scotland's poet*, Burns of course being the first.
Truly Mr. Gladstone knew what he was saying ;
a generation has arisen which knows not Scott.
Alas for Scotland, when an accomplished Scottish
hwly presents her countrymen with a volume of
Scottish lyrics, and yet considers, I presume justly,
that Scott is so little to their taste that she need
only include a aingle specimen of hia verse in her
book !
It is not too much to say that Scotland owes
more than half her fame to Soott, who i^'as
tlio first to unfold the glories of her history
and the beauties of her scenery before the eyes,
not only of Britain, but of the whole ciriliewl
world. Yet how little, compiuiitively speaking,
does slie appreciate him ; how coldly does she
repay ** the debt luunenso of endless gratitude **
which she owes him ; and what a half-hearted
affair w^aa the Scott centenary fete in 1&71 !
But, iis Mr. Gladstone said, "If we do not now
appreciate Soott as we ought, it is our misfortune,
not his. The fashion of the moment may prefer
the neweat to the best ; but as the calm order of
nature is resumed after a storm, so the pennanent
judgment of mankind will regain its equilibrium,
and will reader the honours of poetical and literary
KOTKS AND QUEll
16* a 11 JLLtl, T4.
achievement where they are due/* These worrls,
eouiing from bo accomplished a scholar as Mr,
Gladstone^ are indeed comforting to all true
lovers of Scott,
I do not know if any of your readers have ever
noticed that Mrs, Browning, in her splendid
Visiuii of Fods^ in whieh she marahals the noble
array of laurelled hards and causes them to pass
before our eyes, each one introduced by a few
lines of appropriate and happy description, findE*
no place for Scott, nor does she make the smallest
allusion to him.
Notwithatandingy however, the prevailing dis-
loyalty t<J the illuatrious Scottishman, I am sure
there is a till a remnant left in the land who have
not bowed the knee to the false deity of Kensation-
aliam, nnd whose feelings towards Walter Scott
may best be expressed in the words of Tennyson's
artist- 1 over, ^* My first, !ajst love ; the idol of my
youth ; the darling of my manhood.'' Perhaps I
may be allowed to finish the quotiition, and, re-
membering the wonder and delight with which
some of U8 !ir«t read Scott's poems and romances
in our sweet hour of primej add, "the most
blessed memory of mine age,"
JONATHAM' BoUClttER,
['*Amen!^* to Mr. Bouchier's quoted wordi. The
admirers of Scott, however, need not fear for tLo Rfoat
object of their admiration. Mrs, Browning omitted
Scott from her Virwn of PotU. So Addi&on left SfatLk-
speare ttnnamed in his Account of tht Qrtatat Engliih
Potlt {addre«ed to SacherereH). ^o much the worse for
Addison^ who also sneered at Chaucer and at Spender !
The euccessive cheap cditionji if Fcott^s Novels are so
many proofs of his undying Ttoiiulartty. The editions of
his poems for less thau a shining show how thoroughly
** popular * ho is, in the best sense of that word» Within
the Wt four or five years new dramas, founded on his
workSf b^TC been successfully placed upon the sta^e.
These include The Lady of tht Lak:, Keniluvrtkt /ran-
koi^ and The Fortunes cj y'itfii. In tho last draxna Mr.
Fhc'lps proved his line nuality as an actor by his masterly
performance of King James. For the coming 8€b*ou at
J>rur/ Lane a play is preparing, which is dmwn from the
same inexhaustible source, nanielj, The Tatunnan. The
enthusiasm which the novelty aod brilliancy of tho
trtfiiaurcB excited when they were first delirered by
Scott to tho public, —pOFseasions for ever, — has subsided^
us II matter of course ; but there is a wider sense now,
and a prfjfo under popular appreciation of their ines*
timable ralued
8HAKSPEARIANA,
Shakspkare's Name. — There would have been
less difficulty in arriving at the derivation of tho
niiiue of our great poet had it been viewed, not as
one of an exceptiomil character, but as belonging
to a diBtinct cIom of sobriquets that have become
hereditary. Tlie nicknames given to lower-claa^
officials some centuries ago, mi3i as *" tipstaffs ^' and
"elearers of the way/' were all but invariably hits
at the ojiciaus ana meddliwme cJiatadtr of their
duties. These duties were discharged mainly by
the display of the symbol of office which they held
in their hand. We can readily understand the
crowd outijiide the sacred ring poking fun ni these
well-ft'd orticialii through the mefiium of the baton
which they bore. Various cant fcenua were em-
ployed, but the ingredient of all was "wag" or
" ahiike.^ Theee terms came even to be used more
generdlly. A silly swaggerer became a ** wag-
fenther-' (Halliwell); a woman with a tmiling
dress a "wag-tail" (Halliwell) ; while Smith, '' the
ailver-ton^ed preacher,*' says of a "graceless
boy " that he will prove a " wag-string," that ia,
like a bow relaxed* Thus of " shake " also. A
bully was called n "shake-buckler" (Halliwell%
and a turnkey a ** shake-lock.'^ Let us see how all
this atl'ected our nomenclature. Let us take
"wag" first. "Robert Wafrgeataff" is found in
the Hundred RoIIf, "Richard Wflge-ttiir* in
Proc. ;ind Ord* Privy Council, and " Mabill Wag-
Hpere '* in the Coldin^hum Priory Records (Surteeis
yoc). ** Wag-horn " still exiatB. It was Captain
Waghorn who was tried for the wreck of th&
Royal George in 17&2. So far of the term " wtig/*
Let us now turn to " shake." " l^imon Shake-lok '*
occurs in the Pari. Writs, " Henry Shake-hmnce "
in the Hundred Rolls, ** Hugh Shake-shaft " in
8t. Ann's Register, Manchester (date 1744)« and
"William Shuke-^pere '* in Dury St. Edmunds
Wills {Cam, Soc). Of course I could give oth«'
in.«tances of all the above, but one I think will
suffice. You will see that " Wag-spere ■' is but
synonynioubt with the poet's name. William
Shakspeare, I ciinnot doubt, was descended from
some officer of the law, or one who held service
under some feudal lord ; while his name must be
viewed as belonging distinctively to the nicknau>e
class. I will say a word or two at another time
about tho poet's son ** Hamnct/' who bore a purely
Christian name, althougb, if I be not mistaken,
this has not been observed before,
Charles W. Bardslby.
" Mars his sword." — - In Abbott's Shakt'
*/wr<iWart Qrammar^ § 217, we find **" Hu was some-
times used by mistake for s\ the sign of the pos-
sessive case, particularly after a proper name/*
Professor Latham {English G-rammar^ "Pleonasm **
in the Syntax of Pronouns), however, takea hu
in such aises to be the possessive pronoun, and I
conceive he is right. In German such expressions-
wid^mi Professor tcinc Fran f " the Professor his wife"
(dern Profumt being the dative), are commonly
used, though only in conversation. Again, wo find
it in Dutch: thus in the Maayden of vondcl, i. 1,
we have Marnl zijn g^€$i, " Marsilius big ghost,-' —
Van Moten's note on this being, ** As at the pre-
sent day, in the language of conversation for
ghost of Marsilius." Again, in the works of
Fritz Reuter, written in the Mecklenburg-Schwerin
dialect, such expressions are to be found in every
ff" a Ih JoxT 4. 74-1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
3
t**.
^1
e have Frih Bahlmmin^ji sin ?f"?fjif,
lann lib sausage " — Ut ^ic FntnzoBai-
iid, j>, :i:^.i ; Hn oik Moder thr i/a/f, ** lii» old
mother her heikrt " — Id., p. 22() ; fUn Mijllcr £^in
yridrkh^ '* the iDLller his Fridrich,'^ poMim.
H^rts tsa will be obierved, the noun which comes
first iH in the genitive or dative ; it is ditficult to
«iy which, a» the inflexions are the same. Agivin,
int; to Quickbom, by Kk^j Groili, written in
DitLnwirsch dialect, we find such expreasiona
frequents, us uns Htrr sin ffiw, *'our Lord
hi» House" — Quickhom^ sey^nih edition, p. 13^;
Pock dn Fru^ " Froggie his wife ''— M, p. 197.
In this diAle<;t it h impossible to siiy in what case
the firet noun is, as there are no intiexions. In
theie lan^ujigiet, or dialects, it is quite certain that
$€uif or nUf is the pos^eesive pronoun and nothing
ol8» ; why then should we hnd a difficulty in a
dorrwponding usage in our own lan<^age I
Mr. Abbott, in support of his view, that hu is
ttB«d in such cases by mistake for ^s^ says, " Afler
Ibe feiuinine name Guinivere, we have in the later
text of Layamon, iL 511, *for Owenayfer hu
l0Te»' " The passage at full length is —
** Arthur wm in CornwuUe
Al thane wynter,
For Gwenayfer hi* love
Womman hirii leofest."*
It ij^ms to me possible that " lore " may here
tfUJid for ** lover," as we have *' mine own tnie
loTl^ " pwmm in the old ballads, in which case the
inoanifig of the line will be, ** for the gi\ke of his
kire Gwenayfer." This, however, I leave to others
to decide. F. J. \\
** Lovt's Labour's Loht " (5**^ S. h 3tJft.) — I may
fcry Bofely assert that there is but one authority
for the assertion intputed to Burbage, that this
^Uy would please t^ueen Elizabeth, viz., a letter
from 8ir \\ alter Cope to Viscount Cranbome,
darted 1R<>4, preserved in Lord Salisbury's library
at Hatfield. SpitniEXu will find it printed (with
no very commendable accumcy) in the third
ft of the Koyal Commission of Historical
ai4cripU| 1872, p» 148. All Burbage "wiyes"
At
" ThtT ys no new pUje that the queue hath not aeene,
hare Retjrved an olde one, Cawled Lovet
rr, nlijcli for wytC and mirthe he sayea wiU
excediugly/'
Jabez.
Club.
FOLKLOBE.
LK-LoaE OF THE Tuoay (5*^ S. i. 347.)— I am
to oifer E. J. C much infomiation in
^Tfp! first piirt of his query, but may call
' Kirs . to some superstitions obviously re-
* 1» the earlier edition it ia '^ and al for ^Venhicuere
hited to that mentioned by him. In Suffolk, to
sleep in a room with the whitethorn bloom in it
during the month of May " will surely be followed
by some great misfortune." Aod —
** If you sweep the house wit]i ' ' 1 broom in May,
Y>c sure to sweep the head *' away/*
Chow Js -, , . i Lont p. 113.
Turning to the latter portion of the query, the
origin of the superstition in question is part of a
wide and curious subject ; but three points seem to
deserve special prominence.
The first is the connexion in the minds of the
primitive Aryans of the thorn and fire, a connexion
traceable, as in the case of the rowan, &e., to the
red colour of the fruit of the tree. Much infor-
mation as to ancient notions on the subject^ and
the conceptions in which they originated, will l>e
found, if your correspondent cares to pursue the
inquiry, in Kuhn*s treatise, The Decent of Fir^
and the Dnnk of th€ Ood» (Berlin, 1859), and in
Mr. Kellys Curiosities of Indo-Europmn Tradi-
tion and Folk Loi'€^ an able sketch, not so well
known ns it deserves.
The next point is the association of the thorDj
as well as rowan, &c., with the celebration of the
festival of the returning Sun, May- day. That
festival was apparently understood to miirk the
coming back ot the Fire, through its supposed
great source, the Sun, aft-er the durk and cold
winter ; and one h prepared to Hnd the tire trees,
the thorn and rowan, figuring in the celebration. In
Westphalia, the herdsman on May-duy ** quickens"
his heifers, striking them over the haunches and
loins with a rowan sapling, which has been cut at
or before sunrise, and praying that, ** as sap comes
into the birch and beech, and the leaf comes upon
the oak, so may milk fill the young cow^s udder."
A kindred practice survives in the county of
GriUway, where caorthann gads, i.e. withes of the
rowan, cut before sunrise, and twisted into circlet*,
are placed on the churn, the chum-dash, and the
plough. In the same loc^ility it is the furze (which
is expected to be found in bloom) which is used
for the Dos-Bmltainc^ or May-bush. In England
the whitethorn was expected to be in bloom. ** To
be delivered from witches they hang in their entries
(among other thint^) hay-thorn, otherwine white-
thorn, gathered on May-day." (Scott's JJUcovery
of Witchcraft, in Brand, i. 217. See also i. 22U^)
Kow, if the thorn was thus asaociated with the
festival marking the beginning of summer, and its
blooming connected in the jx^pular mind with
May-day, it is conceivable that the flowering of
the tree before May would be looked upon as some-
thing sti'ange and ominous, and we should have
some explanation of the superstitious notion men-
tioned by E. J. C. that such early bloom bodes
misfortune. It may be noted, in connexion with
this ide^ that the blooming of an apple-tree after
th« fruit L. ^lymyigllliygiy^^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
p*S.lI.JirLT4,74.
"A bloom upon the apple when the apples are ripe
la ft Btira tennination to somebody^ life/'
( North&mptonahire,)
An old Baw, though th^ couplet embodying it is
nmnifestly, in the form her© given* of latS dtde
enough.
Apnrtj however, from what has been said as to
the possible reference of the whitethorn superstition
in question, and other? like it, to the ancient
chnracter of the thorn tU3 a fire tree, and its con-
sequent connexion with the solar festrvrd of May,
ther« 18 a numerous and well-knowTi cla^s of jwpula?
notions which throw light on the matter, namely,
those which associate the ideaa of the soul and
death with various irfttV^' objects, butteiHiea, moths,
lilies, and (white) pigeons and tither birds {Clioice
HoUf!, pp. 17 and til ; DMin UiiirfrHty Ma^n-
9ine, Oct. 1873, " Folk-Lore of the Lily" ; and Long
Ago, IR73, *' Butterflies in Folk-Lore*'). Some
cjurioua items of folk-lore in connexion with thin
tree w^ould, I think, be found aunriving in Ireland,
where it is often found, as a ** monument bush,'*
marking old places of sepulture, or planted about
ancient rsiths. Any »uch scmps of old Celtic
Buperatition, if got from the lipa of the people
themsetvea, and not from so-called treatises on the
subject, would, I should think, be worthy of a
place in ** N. & Q.;^ where Irish folk-lore is not
particularly well represented at present.
David Fitzobrald.
HimmernDith.
Calomtil»— All the lexico^iphers and cfcymolo-
gista who mention this word* seem agreed that it
is deriyed from K-aAcW, beautiful, and /MAas^,
bkck,t but they are by no means at^ree^l whtj it
was called so, ^lahn (in. Webster) tells ua it \vm
"in iklhision to ita properties and colour." Un-
fortunntely, calomel, inste^ui of being of a bmuH/ul
blachf is pure irhiU,X so that it would seem as if
Mahn had never seen c^ilomel! Littre says
cautiously, " ainsi nomm«, dit-on, parce que le
chimiste qui le ddcouvrit, vit, dans la preparation,
S6 cLoDger une belle poudre noire en une poudre
blanohe."§ But is it the fact that such a change
takes place ? I expect not, but perhaps some one
of the readers of " N. & Q." will teU us.
* S«Ter&l etymologists, u Dlei, Seheler, Bmoheti
Wedgwood, and Ed. M tiller, omit the word Altogether,
either, I suppowj, bccuQBe it is& techniciil word, or becdUBe
they had no sattsfActory explanation to offer.
f Johnson, in ?i>caking of the dematton^ eajs nothing
more than " calomelaji, a chymical word."
I When impure, it is of a jt 11 o wish white, but it ta ncrer
Lof any colour in the least dejjrce nppronchinji; blaclr.
I $ When lime water ia added to CAJomel a blackish
^■powder it thrown down, and the n^Jted btaeJt ipask is
produced. But hew the change ia the conrerao of that
noted by Littr6, and the precipitate, so far frr>m being
of a beautiful black, ia retdlyiather of a dark grey colour
(mb-oxide of mercury).
I
Of,
ledy
la^B
Pereim, in bin Materia Mtdica (ed. 1849,
p. 847), speaks a little more explicitly. He tel
us that ** the term calomel . , » . was first U8(
by Sir Theodore Turquet de Mayenne (who dii
in 1655), in consequence; a« some aay, of his havi
had a favourite black servant who prepared it ; orT
according to other?, because it was a ^ood remedy
for the hl/ich bile.''
But Hooper, in his Medical Dittionary^
us what I conceive to be the true solution o
difficulty. His words are: "This name
originally applied to the Aethiops mineral or bh
sulphuret of merrnty ; it was afterwards applied
by Sir Theodore Mayeme* to the chloride of mej
cury [calomel], in honour of a favourite ne[
servant whom he employed to prepare it.** Mai
{op, eit) also refers to Atthioptumncral^ ji, it, " G
rael," but he evidently thinkt^ that they are t
different names for the same thing, and therein
is m (Striken.
We see, therefore, that it was really owing
a kind of joke or jeii de woNt that the name
t'a^otn^i=beautiful (or good) hhrJc^ became applii
to a white powder ; and confusion and error hai
been the resuU. F. Chakcb.
Sydenham Hill.
*^ Living Oj^ie's Lifk ovkh Aoain,**— -The
following ia from Franklin^ m Life:- —
"When I retlect, as I frequently do, upon the felici^~
I have enjoyed, I enmetiine^ say to nijstlf that, wefl
the trffer made true, I would engage to i-un again, fro* '
bcgiiinln^ to end, the same career of life. All I wou
ask should be the privilege of an author, to correct, m^
second edition, certain errors of the first.''
W, A. C.
S?tKEZfKG, — I tmnslate from the Pali t<;xt
the Gagga Jaiaka^ publii?hed by Fausboll {T4
Jatahas, Tnibner, 1872), the following curioua
reference to a very ancient superstition : —
"One day, Buddha, while seated in the midst of
large congregation of difciplcs, to whom he woe prcacl
ing the Law, chanced to snreEC. Thereupon the pri
etcliiiming May the Blesied Lord live, may the Wulcoi
One live, made a loud noise and BcriouBly interrupted
discourge. Accordingly, Buddha addressed them a#
follows : Tell me, pHests, when a person sneeaea, if the
byatanders say, May you lire, will ho live the l^'Wpcr (
die the aooner for it I- Certainly not, liord. — Thei
Briesta, if any one sneexes yon are not to say to hit
May you live; and if any of you ehall «ay it, let hii
he guilty of a transgression. From that time fos '
when the priests sneezed and the bystandHrs exclaims
May ynu live, Sins, the priests, fearful of transgressini
held their peace. People took offence at thii : Whi
said they, do these priestly sons of Sakya mean by m
* Perciru. fis we havc secfn, calls thia iianta Mayenn^
but '^ \nnB^nCoftt^ftition$'Li^rifim{\Oihed\tioi
1851 I) find the name given as Mayeme (wilj
the a.tm i.,.M instead of 1655), I preiome thut th
latter form is the correct one.
t Sir Thtodorp mu^t bare noticed the eontnuit
tween the vrhitmas of the powder and the blaeknat <
his servant
i
«»II.ILJeii4,7tO
NOTES AND QUERIES.
I
I
iflg ft word when wo f»y» May yon live, Sin ? The
rr camo to Buddh&'s can. PriGft?, he said, the
laity '^" '> ■ ">mer-«tone of the chore h ; when h&jioen
my, > e, i^iri, 1 grre my SBBflticm to your reply-
ing, o you/*
Fiv*fti tliib it appears tbut, in ancient Hindust^m,
it Wfi3 customary, when a person sneezed, for the
hywUoiden to excioiin, ** May you live ! *' (jloa), anti
etiqtieite required tliat the sneezer ihould reply,
** Long life to you ! " (chiram jivathji)- The
JftUka Book, firom whieh this story 19 taken, m
part of the Buddhist Scriptures, and belongs to a
period far antecedent to the Christian Era, The
lapentition with regard to sneezing is a very wide-
•ptiiii one. It would bo interesting (if it has not
bfi^Ti Mlr*i!*jlv done) to bring together references to
it fr eraturesof different countrie?^. For
iqyiLi _. 1 j^pening to look through Clodd's Child-
0/ the frorld the other day, I came upon the
tng pii^aage : —
*• According to mn old Jewish legend, the cutitom of
myinsr 'Ood b1e» yoa' when a perflon sneezes datea
from ' ' The Kabbis «ay that before tbo time that
J«r n raeeied onc«, and that wa« ilie end of
th«>ii '::k slew them. Thii law wai sot aside on
tk« praver **( Jacob, on condition that in all nationt a
mamtm uiould he hallowed by the word* * God bles» you.' "
R. 0. CniLDKES.
Ttne FLYrNG Dutchman,— In the narrative of
the voyapea of H.M. Khips " Leven " and " Barra-
conta,'* under Captain W, F, Owen, ILN., in the
jwr 1823, the following curious story is published :
** In the evcninK of the 6th of ApHK when off Port
Danger, the Barracouta wie eeen about two mites to
]«ew&nl. struck with the sitj polarity of licr Ijuinp so
Hon after us, we at tint concluded that it cjuld not be
Imt ; but the peculiarity of her rigging, and other ctr-
anDAtances, convinced ue that we were not so mistaken.
Ifay, to diftinctly waa ihe Hccn, that many well-knoTm
Am could be ob«er?cd on deck, looking towards our
ihi^^ Aflef keeping thus for some time, we became
CBf^find that the nuule no effort Uy join us ; but, on the
eoQtfmry* ttood away. Bot being so near the port to
wbfeh we were both destined, Captain Owen did not
Mlach much importance to thia proceeding, and we
•fOordtrjrty continued our course. At sunset it was
okae- -he hove to, and sent a boat away, appa-
iini I'urpiDwe of picking up a man overboard.
Jlttri: a . — i'ji^Ut we could not perceive any light or
OliMrmdieation of her tocaHty. The neitt morning we
n^orod in Simon's Bay, where, for a whole week, we
w«w lu ftnxious expectation of licr arrival ; but it alter-
wifds appeared that at this very period the rsiirraoouta
mttnt TiftTf biren aboTC three hundrea miles from ug, and no
oUi^ ^^e same clan was ever seen a bout the Cape*"
' of the narrative disclaims any in-
t4i excite the supernatural feelings of his
Arr^ptin^ the story a« true {and it is
t f -tible weight of authority),
, out of all the Fhipa sailinp^
lie one which the law of refraction
tnjtired np in view of the ** Leven '*
:.r snip^ own consoit in n deadly and perilous
F. w! Chessox.
" Excumgent/' — I have not heard this North-
unibrianism lately. I fancy it h rather slang than
a provincial iam. It is applied to a person or
thing " got up " more emartly than usual^ *' Where
are you going, you are quite exctinigent/ " — ** How
do you likemynewbonnct ?"— "Oh, it is quite cx-
cumgent." Extra gent(eel) is, I presutnc, the
etyniologj% It is among servants I have heard it
used. P. P.
Old FtTNERAL Customs int Cape Toww. — By
an old colonial Dutch law, now almost forgotten,
when a man died in debt^ leaving a widow and
family, the hearse was brought before the door in
the presence of a largo concourse of friends and
neighbour, the widow came forth, locked the door,
and placed the key on the coffin, thus being ro-
lexised from her husband's debts. The la^t record
of this ceremony being performed is as fitr back as
1823. It was formerly the practice, when any re-
spectable person was interred^ to have white sand
strewn in the street from the house door to tho
grave. This ban of late years, in Gape Town at
least, been discontinued^ but may still exist in tho
more remote Dutch villagea. At Dutch funerals,
in olden days, two respectably dresaed men (ti-op-
schlutera), got up in cocked hats and black fttlk
stockings, were generally engaged to form tho In&t
couple of mourners in the funeral procession. The
popular opinion was that the h\8tr couple took all
the ill luck supposed to wait on the last conple
into and out of the churchyard, no friend liking
to figure last at a funeral Formerly no regpectablo
family buried their de^d until after dark, when
each mourner was attended by his sUive carrying a
lighted lantern. The appeamncje of such a procession
wjis very strange to meet in the narrow, and then
unlighte<i, streets of ( Vipe Town. Hiitcbment* of
the iirnifl of the principal deceased otticials of tho
old Dutch Government were formerly suspended
in the " Oudo Keerk '■ on the Heercngnicht, and
presented some very curious and interesting speci-
mens of old Batavian heraldry. They are now,
however, nearly all removed, and lie rotting in n
himber room in the vicinity of the church, in com--
pany, it is said, with a few valuable pictureH of
the Dutch school, long lost to the public eye,
Tliese and many other primitive Dntch customs
are gradually disappearing, and tho modes and
habits of English domestic life have almost snper-
Beded the quaint and homely manners which pre-
vailed in the City of Van Riebeck to a period at
late as the first three decades of the present cen-
tury. I am indebted to an old friend and tjuondam
correspondent of *' N. & Q.^' for some of the id>ove
interesting notes. H. Mall.
Lavender Bill.
**BovNiE Duypitp:," — From a small volume
which professes to teach boy»* tlie history of Hcot^
6*
NOTES AND QUERIED
P^-S.!!. JuLr4,*7i;
the death of Lord Dimdc^c, written in a »tjle
ueiirly as stilted as that of the mendndous his-
torian Wodrow : —
** CljVTcrliouflc ncvpT knew that ho had won a Tictory.
He fell at the beginning of the action pierced i>y a mns*
l(Ct ball, wkich entered beneath his nrm. When one in
ii pack of hungry wolrea i? killedi the rest turn upon
bim and eat hirn np, ClaTerhoufle'e own men. true to
their savage instinct of plunder, stripped hi§ body, and
left it naked ULpon the field, where it was with difficulty
distinguiihed from the other bodies of the fallen."
Lord Bundet^, created a viseount in the secoud
year of JaDies II., did not die on the field of
Killiecninkie. He was mortally wounded, but
not in the beginninjx of the action, and w(ls carried
to the house of Old Bhm*, at that time the inn,
where J (juite aware of the success of his manter's
troopsj he sank the next mornings and waa buried —
** For a gable shroud
8bcathod in bis iron panoply/*
in a vault in the old church of Blair. Had tbe
Hij^hJiinders^ likened by the reverend historian
to Eun^r}^ wolves, " true to their mvage nature/'
wished to treat w^ith such l>rat*d indignity the
pbodj of their ve Derated " Black John of the
f Battles/* would they have put olf time in doing so,
I "when they had Huch a tlock of runaway sheep
I (without a .Hhephertl) as iVIackay-a array to fall
f ttpon 'i
My friend Mr* Robertson » of Old Blair, has
"kindly furnished me with the following curious
tradition : —
'•My information regardinjjf the circuniBlances of
ClRTerhousie^H! death, was derived from an old man who
died at Aldclune last winter, about the age of 70.
*^ His etory waa tliat be bad t>een told by an old troman
who lived at Aldolune, and was, I tbimk, his grand auiit>
that her father, who waa a boy nt the time of the battle
©f Killiccrankie, lay concealed on the hill above Urrard
niinrory) during the engagement, and that he foil" wed
Ihe party vfho carried Claverhouse to the inn at Old
Blair, and that ChLverhou^e died in the inn the following
Oay.*'
A. A.
CcuiousTreasoxadle Lktter* — The man who
• wrote the following letter had been Ioujt suspected
€»f giving treasonable information Uy the enemy ;
^»nd Government set a spy over him, by whos^
exertions they procured the letter directed to a
hou&e at Paris. At first they imagined they had
bit on the wront; person, when a few dny^ after-
wards a second letter, directed by the ajime hand,
to the same person, containing only the fij^U'es, as
^ ander it, was hrou^^ht by the infonnaut to Govern-
inent ; when, after a little considtation, they dis-
covered it was a key to the tin^t letter, and accord-
ingly hud the writer in close confinement till, at
the earnest intercession of liis friends, he was
suilered to leave this country, under a promise of
not returning during the war : —
*' London, April 6, 179S.
Dear Friend,— As I findtJiert Man opportunity, 1 write
to say how wc mt ; my daughter Mary, who vraa fere^i'
I
t^en last week« has an ofiTer ; the man ia a mil niakert
honest and industrious ; he is very sober, iind o/re
iible family; a;* to the trade we do not object,
workmen in that lint are sure of employment. My \
has been almost r^d^ to go distracted with pain iU 1
gtomach ; after fluffering for aome days* *he $oit up
sharp matter, which greatly relieved her hmd ; i\
became again afflicted, and /tow long her illness r
continue. Heaven knows. Any commatuU you may hi
to execute will be carefully attended to by.
YouTB truty*
4 1 8 S 5 9
7 2 7 6 5 10
3 3 7 7 3 11
3 4 4 8 3 12."
3 $
This curioua document, together with the pi
ceding particulars regarding the detection of the
-writer, appears in the Eurcfpmn Magazine, 181-"
vol- IxTi, pp. 21, 22. The first column of figm
indicates tue word«j and the second column t\
lineii in the original letter. The words convey tl
the treasonable infomirition are printed in itali
though of CfRirse in the original no words W(
underlined, or otherwise marked, the list of fi|^
which followed the letter admirably serving
purpose. It will be observed that the infoniuiti
conveyed to the enemy in this letter was ** Tb
uit! seVenteen sjiil of the line ready at SpiLhes
Howe oomniaads." W, A. C.
Glasgow*
Parallel Passaoes. —
" Drydcn says prettily of Ben Jonson's many imitath
of tlie ancietitrt, you track bini everywhere in their SKO^
. . . . Menage adds, that ho intended to compile a regu-
lar treatise on the thefts aiid inutations ot the poets.
As hii^ reading waa very cx^teusive, his work would, prob-
ably, liaTe been rery entertaining.'' — Warton's Euay oh.
the Otniut and Wriiin^i of Popf, P* 80,
"Let us see bow far we are got in this inquiry,
may say of the old Latin poets, that they all came oat (j
the Greek echooh. It is an true of the roodcrni* in tn
part of the world that thev* in generiil^ have had thd
breeding in both the Greek and Latin. But when t*"
queatioo Is of ihny particular writer, how far and iu wti
instances, you may presume on bis being a profess
imitator, much will depend on the certain knowle^
you have of his Age, Education, and Character, Wiii^
all these circumstances meet in one man, as they h»^
dotie in others, but in none perhaps so eminently as in
Ben Jfonson, wherever you Imd an acknowledged like-
ness, vou will do him no injustice to call il imitation,**-
Bp- liurd, On Poftu^ai Imitation, (Critical Works^ ii.).J
**You track him everyAvhere in their aoofl
Were these words of Dryden'a an original though
or did he recoUect " leporem venator," &e.,
Horace, Sat. 2, lib. i. ? Who hiii< been supposed (
have translated toHdein vcrbH an epigram of Call
machua, a translation of which is subjoined frrj
Dr, WellesleTr^s Antholagia PoUjtjhtta, cxni
thi'? question, see Fabricii Ojmscula Lit^rar
p. 29 ; Tnnafjuilli Fabrl Epiatolcf, p. 229 ; J,
Scaligeri Opv^cula^ p. 464 ; UomC I}€lpMnif\
Valpy:—
wmm
«» 8. II. JuLT 4, 74.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
"The CiiACt'.
llft^rk; Bpicyde«, Low the hunter beard
■TA in the cbucc» when timid hares
itn^ he tracks throu}:;h fro^t and tUQW,
ttiti» cchotniK to the valea below.
L if !■ it»e clown balKos i ' Here, master, here
•otmg &t TOUT feet the fitiickcn deer/
llec »a becd, hut stirts for newer game,
^eh ii mj love, and puch hi« arrow's ifcitn,
lTh»t fellow* etill with Bjo^d the flying Mr,
* But deems the yielding slave below his care."
Mcrivnte.
BjBLIOTllEC*iR, ChETHAM.
[We miut requett correepondeniB dcairiag inf formation
on family miitt«rt of only private interest, to affix their
naaiet ind addreesei to their queriefl, in order that the
smwen may he addressed to them direct.]
** BuitT HEBE FOR 1113 En VY.'' — Ou » fomier oc-
aision the correapondf nU of " N. & Q" gave me
efitet^nt help towards the interprelAtion aad elncida-
tioD of **the Grim Feature" in the Ninth Book of
Parmlisf Lost, I now submit to them a difticulty in
the Fir«it Book, unnoticed by Todd* At U. 258-
26^Ly of first edition, we read —
'' Here at leist
W« ahall b« ffoe ; tV Almighty hath not built
Here for bis envy, will not dri?e aa hence :'*
lithe reference he to the Imppy nmnsioa built by
iJxe Almij^hty in Heaven, which mi^'ht well be
aAld to hftve been built for the env^ of tho.-ie who
were excluded from it, one would expect the la>it
line to tun ** Here for our envy/' &c.; as it h, the
envy Li jittributed lo the piirty in possesaion, and
not to the party ejected or excluded.
An act-omplishcd friend suggested to nie that, in
the ftbovo passage, built k a subfltantive; having
the mn9e of o-kckto?, i «., ft mark or target.
Obviously, if built had such it sense, ha use here
would he most appropriate. But, unfortunat-ely,
1 cannot find that the substantive built had any
oth^r meaning than builds which meant, and
iiD«, form or figure. My friend referred me
^iJryden's Annua MirabilU for an instance, but
I piu^Sij^c proves nothing to the point ; —
** And u the hvilt, bq different is the fight ;
Their monntitig ihot is on our sails deiigned."
Ortalnljt if biUH he used hero for mark or object,
tilt M^nne is perfect ; but it ia so likewise if built
taeikn* (bo build of the ship of war from which the
•b' 'd. Anotlier instance which he gave
lilt 1 1 pie, ** timber proper for this built/'
il ftt_Ui uiLHij doubtful Having collated a good
nmojr •diijons of Fatadiu Lost (including the first
and acocmd), I have not found a single variAtton
in the paasngc in question ; but an examination
of iruioot versions of the work bas repaid the
nmuh. In WilliJim Hog's Farnphrusis Fodiea,
*' nulloque prcinuntur,
Colla jvigo, nuUam omnipotens livortg uccrbi
Materiatn hie ridet, hinc ideo nunquam ille ref>ellet
Agmina nostra/' &c.
Kow here, beyond «loubt, we have the very sensft
suggested by my friend. There can be no dotibt
that materinm here means occasion or grouncK It
is so used in Suetonius, who, in bis Lift of
Galbn^ conveys by that word iht occasiim of
yero's jmlomy. I need not stay to in^ifit on the
value of Hogg's translation as a contenipomry evi-
dence of Milton's meaning. In 174<», Fatadiu
Lod was *' Attempted in Rbime ^- ; and the author
of that absurd attempt thus renders our passage : —
"here at least
We fiholl he free ; for here the Victor Prince,
Built not for Envy, will not drive us hence/*
80 he took Milton's hDili for the j^ist participle <yf
huihh In 1745, a still more absurd version wai
puhlished, viz,, an English tranHhition of Ray-
mond lie St. Maur's French version of Fatadim
Lost, The re-tmnslator, **A Gentleman of Oxford,"
thus turns our psissage : —
'* At leant here we ah all ho free, the Thunderer Uttli
not built this Place for bia Envy, he will not drive ui
out from hence, * ^c.
m be tuok built in the same sense ; but he does
not remove the ditticulty of the phmse ** for hi»
Envy/' which his predecessor effecteil by omitting
the pofgsessive pronoun* We have, then, sncee©de«i
thus far only ; we have proved that, in ^lilton'st
day, built was understood as a substantive, meaning
occiision cr ground of the Almighty's envy ; but
we have not been able to pmve that huih wa« usecl
(unless by Milton himself) in that sense. I shftll
bo greatly obliged to any reader of this note who
shafi be able and willing to furnish me with
evidence of such use. Jabbsl
Athenaeum Club,
** Ublooahbll,*' — ^Woiild some of your Iriak
readers state the meaning and true ?jpeUing of thU
word, which occurs in Camden^s Eemaimsf ft
seems probable that it is some strange attempt at
giving, in Engli.Hh language and letters, the
phonetic spelling of some Irish word, or words, in
use at the time when Camden wrote. Just as in
the State Papers of the time of Henry VIIL we
find a word written ** Allyicgs^" and ** oylcgcags/'
for an Irish exaction, explained as a fee said to
Live been paid by each litigant party, both
plaintiff and defendant, to the Brehon appointed
by the Irish Chiefs, or by the Anglo-Irish Lords
who had adopts Irish customs, for his judgment,
the purport and etymology of which is to b«
founa, aa we are told, in the Irish words iHUgh, a
Brehon or Judge, and tag^ payment.
The word printed " Allyiegs,** at p. 558, vol, iL,
of the St^ite I*:ipers, in a letter written by Cinnond
to Sir Anthnny Sentlcger, the Lord-Deputy, dmU^i
$
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[SI*H,lLJuLT ,*71
jiiund and Oas. auioDg ^' like exaccions and extor-
tions/' would apiieiu- to be the same as that spelt
** Oylegeaga/' which wc find in a note by the
editors of the brief substance of the several pre-
aentments made by the juries for each of the
counties in the South, except Tippera-ry, in 1537,
where we are told that according to the Wuterford
present men ta, " the Brehon who wil? ordained/' or
appointed by the Lady Katharine Poer, took for
hiB judgment, called " Oyle^^eiig," I6d, of every
mark sterling, both of the pkintiH' and defendant.
But inatead of the words oihghy or Brehon, and
eajjf, payment, which would seem to liave boea
coined for the occasion, 1 would venture to aub-
stituto oUmtOir, or oUave^ a judge, a man of educa-
tion ; and easg, or nu(feacht^ as the Irish for hire,
or wiiges, the former words not occurring in any
Irish Qkifldajry with which I am acquainted ; whde
we find a clue in O'Donovan's Supplement to the
late Edward O'Reilly's IHctionaiij, in which Dul-
cmiui is explained by tuaji saetair (for which he
gives as his authority *' an oM gloas^wy "), which I
t!ike to import the «aiue, or nearly so, as tuack
koMi^ the price or reward of welfare, and »actar^ or
in more modern Irish, saotar^ which imports work,
labour, or dmdgery, *' Ublogahell '' would ^eem
to have been used or intended (but I write froiu
memory, not having Camden's limiahics before
me at this moment) as a title, a designation of|
Bome atone of inauguration, or place of meeting of
the Iriish^ perhaps like Tullahogue, where they
" mado " the great " Oneyll " in the time of Queen
Elizabeth, or Kilmacrenan, in the County of
Donegal. J. Huband Smith.
lUtjoX Iriih Academjj DahUn.
"No WTTEK."— A few evenings ago, I asked a
small ho3^ of mine, of three yeans and four months,
if he had been " crying," a», in the morning, be htid
been in disgrace. Hia reply at once was, **I
Liven'fc cried again to day no wlitaJ* As "no
how" and "no where*' are correct, why not
'* 4WJ wlieriy" and if so, has it ever been in use, or
is this infant to be credited with a new wortJ,
though in perfect ignorance of everything but
baby language ? K,
Falconet, the Artist, — Perhaps some reader
of " N. & Q,** may be able to give some account of
Falconet, the artist, who resided in or near London
towards the close of the lust centur}^ Are there
any paintings by hiui known to bo in e.xistence,
and if so, where are thej' to V^e »een I 1 po^iie*!*
two engravings, by different bands, after a portrait
pftiDted by him in 1768, but have never met with
any of hi^ works. KtRjJV Trimmer,
The Close, Norwich.
Thk ** Carmaonole."— A few yeai« ago, I asked
in ** N. & i)" if any one could tell me where I
could find the music of the Cantiaffnok, that song
and dance so famous in the French Resolution.
I inquired also for the music of the €a ira. The
latter I received from your late respected contrL-
but<jr F. C. H,, but I have never yet succeeded|
getting the Cfi-nn4igiiol&, I have the words, ,
least some of them, because I beheve it wins wl
is called in these days a "topical" son^j, and ven
were added from time to time to suit the eveil
of the day. Can any new contributor help me i
find the music I Dickens, in his Tah of Two Ciiii
has a moBt graphic and, 1 should think, accurate
descri])tion of the Carmagnole dance : who was lus
authority for the description ?
Jonathan Bouchier,.
** The Pilorim*8 Prooress.** — In the (
of June 17, there occurs the following,
of the Rev. W. J. Stracey, of Buxt^jn, Norfolk 3
" In a letter I have by mo, dated Jno. 26, 1S66, I >
told by the writer that *Mj«8 C haa publiihed a
tranglatioD^ for prirato circalation, from a French MS.
copy in the British Muacum Libmry, of Thg Pilgrima^
of the So^f^lc, by GuillauntQ do Ouiifcviilot a Churchmafi,
who tiouri«hed in tlio fifteeath century. The original
work was txtuitlated in Kn island seventy years before the
Keformiationp and waa printed by Caxtrjn iu 1483. Misa
C — —'a object in pablinhmg her trandatioa i« to ibow
that Bun van 'fi PilffrimU Frogreu U nearly verbatim a
copy of this rare work« with a few alterations here i
ab<fl
there to giTo it the tinge of orii^inality/ '*
Is anything known of this book ? Is the ah
a correct account ? E. L. BLEKKrKSorp.
[See a letter from Mr. Stracey in this week'a Guardian,]
Rev. Samtjel Hardy. — He waa Rector of
Little Blakeaham, in SutTolk, and Lecturer of En-
tield, in Middlesex. He is the author of a learned
work on the Scripture jiocotict of the nature and
ends of the Holy Euehiiriat (17B4}. I should be
glad to have any further information respecting
him, and to know whether the puVdication ot his
Ixkok attracted much notice, or Ciilled forth any
reply. In the Dedication to ibe Archbishopsi,
Bishops, and Clergy of the Church of England, he
speaks of having compoaed it amid circumstances
of trouble and affliction, owing to bodily ailmettt#
and distres.s of mind on account of the barba
murder of his sou. E. H.
" NKWtTK/'— Wiere can I obtain informatj
as to the derivation or meaning of this surnaa
There is a novel entitled Ncidifi^ Jloma^
A. E. W., and published by Simpkin, Jfclar '
& Co* *Ayv6j^ia
Bn[>KLL OF London. — Can any of your read
supply memoranda relating to the Be<iell faj
of Lomion ? The pedigree is recorded in
I'tsitntifm of LomloHy liSlVA-A, William Be
with whom this pedigree
tiutxny Thonuis Bedell of A
who msirried the daughter i>t ijuriiinu ix;u»L-j
Thurleigh, and Matliew Bedell of Kemp
>B.lI.JtJLT4,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
9
B^dfordshLre^ who, by Helen Morgan of Torvey,
li&il a eou, Mathew Bedell of Loudon, Tlus
Mat hew mjuried two wives ; by the first, Margaret,
• ciiiughter of — Lawrence, imd widow of — Weatby,
he hml a son, Mathew, and two daughters , Pru-
dence, wife of Thomas Thorold of London, and
Anne, wife of Thomas Mustard of London. By hi^
second wife, Anne Boothby of London, ho bad a
floo, Thomas, and three daugbtenj, viz., Elizti, wife
to Herbert AwLrey, son and heir of Sir Samuid
Awbrey ; M&ry,'^ wife to Ralph Hawtrey ; and
IhfAitha, wife to Eichard TaYemer, son imd heir
of Fiuncia Taverner, of HextoBj co, Aliddlesex,
J. J. Howjuid,
Dftiimouih How, Blnckhcath.
SiLvnt Badge* — I have before me a silrer
badge, of which the following la a description : —
i * -lA circular garter or scroll surroundM an heraldic
tideld. On the one side this escutchet)n l^ears
anwi blaiioned thus:^Or, on a bend gules^ three
mijiL.t. r.,.%nt^ Tp^th the badge of Ulster (for a
b:i3 1*? on the garter are engraved these
yfvi'-,- , :...-iiipfylde and Independence." On the
ferene side the ahield is occupied by two right
haixdB chispedf under a sun in gioij, with thi^
title, ** True Blue Union/' and the garter surround-
ing be&T9 this motto, ** Not interest but inclina-
tioiu^ The badge has had a loop for suspension,
is one and a half inches in diameter^ and is,
Apparently, of eighteenth - century worL For
what j»olitical event or purpose was it designed i
Wimhiedon.
James Patzakt.— James Payzant, a French
rpfugee, descendant from the Bouen family of
PayiAnt de Boiisgudlebert, after senring for
•eventy years in the Foreign Office, died July 23,
ITa", aged one hundred years* Is anything
known of his family and de^cendiints, and does
may proof exist of kis longevity I
Frkdkric Lajifkxt.
Cy^utta.
MkBCURY-WaTBR.— What was it ?—
*'Soni« IhioTee hare cat off their irom, and fretted off
ihtkt feitcr», with jnerettry-maUr** kc, — Fuller, Jai€ph'i
i^ifiViifmnd Coat (H^iO), p. l^ (od. ISdT).
F. H.
'—What is the meaning otpan in Panllcld
ffeld, two enclosures formerly be-
' nuns of Wykea, in Essex? {Motu
,\ .J17J. I luive met with the word Pan-
I as a load name in scvenil phices in
i^uc iiLUihire. K. P. D. E,
"Goo AND THE KiNo/'— What is the book so
iaiilitkd to which allnaion is made in Vbitation
Articles of the seventeenth century 1 " Whether
doth your minister teach the book intituled God
atid the King according to His Majesty's pro*
clamationr' E, H, A.
ZiNZAN Strbbt,— There is a street of this name
in Reading. Can any probable origin be assigned
to the word? C. A Ward.
Majf&ir.
** Bagger-chrap.^ —
" Wfl set oar wares at a Tary easy price, he [the dcvU]
may buy us even dagger-cheap, as we suy"— 6p. An-
drifwct, Sermon VI,, Upon the Temptation qf Christ.
"Dagger-cheap" evidently means tie same m
dirt-cheap, but why ? T, Lewis 0, DAVUta,
Pear Tree Vicarage, Southamptoo.
A ** Water-blast."— What is a " water-blast *' ?
I was asking a few days ago concerning the ailment
of a wuter-cress gatherer who had his hand tied up,
and he told me that he was sutfering from a
*' water-bhist.'* I know what a ** bone-blast " is,
but a *^ water-blast" puzsks mo.
Tho8» Batclcff e.
1
THE WORDSWORTHS.
(5"* S. i. 143.)
The note of your distinguished correspondent,
the Rev, Robert Collykr, induces mc to send
the foOowing, which has long lain in quiet amongst
other north-coimtry scraps. The colloquial, familiar^
and parenthetical style of Wordsworth's poem,
Tlu Excunion, has furnished abundant food for
humorists and parodists. The Smiths had their
fling — at leitat, Horace had, a wit that a satirist of
the day described as one—
" " who§e throat
Coald ape ill tuaeSr without one native note."
Hogg, in his Poetic Mirror, has extracts from an
*' unpublished canto of The Excurtion" Many
others might be named. A good deal of this
waggery was, perhaps, owing to Byron*i? ill-natured
remarks in his Don Jitan^ where he speaks of—
" A clumiy, frowij poem c Ailed I^ J^jnturpi^a,
Writ in a manner that is my av«rrioii."
The following burlesque, by some anonymoUB
scribe, appeared in thv CJmfkt of ihncord, a
prirulely printed periodical— never publislied —
got up by some young people in Kewcastle-on-
Tyne and Durham about forty years ago, for I
cannot speak correctly as to the exact date. The
(*fmithi was never finished ; it stopped when it had
reached the forty-eighth page of tne first and only
volume. Its di^olution was caused by some of
the contributors sending articles on logarithms and
rnalhematicid problems, which were not reiiidied
by the literar^^ and poetical sobscribeis.
10
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5'^ S. a Jptt 4. 7
(Jhapkt as far q& it went. I have only twelve pages,
a few of which have the story or episode of Pdcr
HiompfiOii, iV by no meuns bad imitation of WoHsj-
worth :—
" PiiTBE Tbompsox.
*' From an unptibluhed ennto of TAi ExcttrtiiMi.
"The Solitary drew hia ruiilc chair
Bc.iido the Stratiger, whom be thus addresied :
' 8trang«r ! If e'or thou wert in Amblcftde*
Thuu must hare nmrked a well-known Huitclrie
Called the " Blitck Lion," k€|it by Peter Thompson.
The s€ir«»me inn where a <iran)atic troop
f A utroIUng THj^ant band from Cockemiouth)
Performed Wat T^ltr many years iigo;
At which time it wm kept by laaoc Lewthwaite,
Father of Barbam who had tlie petlamb.
And C0U91Q of the Ancient MarincTt
Whoso tomb is seen in Gra$mere's burial -ground.
With a rude rhyme about '* afflictions aore,"
And how " Physician'* skill " was " all in vain."
The sire of Peter Thompson dwelt at Bristol,
(An ancient city in the We^t of England)
And was by trade a barber and a blackimith.
Early in life he married Alice Fell,
(The Uaujj;liter of a stroirm^ manaf^er)
By whom be had a numerous family,
All of whom died when young, excepting Peter,
And a fair ftister known a^ Tabitha,
Who tied to Gretna with a corporal,
And never aft^^rward wai seen at BrsatoL
This wa4 a lad blow to the old folk^ who
DeUiihted in the maiden. Mr Thompgon
Lived but a thort time after ; and his wife
Biod also— and tbeir property was left
To their sole heir, the aJore*aid Peter Thompeon.
He at that period waa bound apprentice
Unto a cattle- doc tor, Amoa Bell.
But Peter Tbampson did not like the businesi,
And now that he was worth three hundred pound,
Left Amoa Bell and entered as a soldier
The forty second regiment of foot,
A highkj.d regiment of great esteem,
Wlicre in due time he rose to be a sergeant.
He fought in many a battle ivitb BQCce««j
And never got a eingle acAr, until
Upon the fated plains of Waterloo
He lost hia left leg by a cauDon ball.
And so wa3 rendered quite unfit for serrke.
When he retum'd to Etiglaod, he inquired
At Bristol if Susanna Foy was living ;
And by her brother Nathan was informed
She was the chamber-maid at Ambleside ;
At the Black Lion, that aforegaid inn.
This Susan Foy was a good virtuous girl.
With whom the soldier bad *' kept company/'
To use a bomely phrase our dales' men use.
She was, besides, of good intelligence
And unbeclouded iTitellect, unlike
A fdlly cousin who was somewhat soft,
Confounding owls with cocks, and night with day.
The love that glows with an eternal ilame.
And knowg nut change or mutability.
Determined Peter Thompson's onward courte.
So without more ado he took the coach—
An inside place, for he waa somewhat proud —
And in due time arrived at Ambleside :
There went to the Black Lion, where lie saw
His lovely Susan ; but she knew him not«
He boldly stumping up to her, would fitin
Have ki»<ied her rosy cheeks, but she repuls'd him. I
Saying, " Beg»me from me ! thou Iww-hred fellow If
At this the soldier wept, and <taid, " C>b, }>u*an I
Hast thou forgot thy etwee theart, Peter Thumpson l1
Then did *hc gnze into lus face und btare
Inttntly on him, and excl&imM *' Forgive me,
Peter, I knew thee not: that wooden leg
Has altered thee completely, and thy face*
Once lair, is brown witli frauticles, nud sun-burut/'
Soon afterward, ho married her; and n.>w
There is no happier foul than Peter Tliompsoii,
The cheerful landlord of a well-kept inn,
Blest with a careful hotisewife and a pension.'
Tlie Solitary cea9*d, and bade * Good nigbt,'
As the moon rising over Langdale pikes
Was silvering G rasmere Vale and Rydal Lake,
- W. W,1
The heading to this extenaion of Mr, Colly;
note induces me to ask if an epitaph in Grasi
Church, coiumencing —
"^ These vales were saddened with no common gloonii
k by Wordfiworth, as stnted in Hone's Table Bi
It 18 on }i nmrbl© Uiblet in memory of
Qui Hi nun, the tirsit wife of a gentleman who a]
wardss married the bite Miss Dora Wordaworth.
should nlei> like to know what are the '*rhym(
that Wordsworth alludes to in ati etiriy
thus : —
" Those wittt/ rhymes
About the crazy old church clock,
And the bewildered chimes."
What Wordsworth coni>idered ** witty *' tniiBfe ]
worth preserving.
^'DE QUINCEY: GOUOH'S FATE."
(4*^S. X. S31, 418; 5^^ S. i. IIT.)
TJic Dog of HclirAlytK During Christnms \
in the year 1 S04, young Guugh, who was a tjua .
and had miidv many mtnbles in the hill>!( of Cu
berlind and Westmoreland, aceorn|mnied by a liri
yellow terrier bitch, named Fid a, quitted oofr
morning the Patterdale inn, called the '* King*d
Arms" (in those days no hotels existed in the
mountain district), with his dog, intending to go
over Helvellyn top to Wythhiirn. The day was-
stormy — hailing when he set out — with snow upon
the ground. He was unable to get any ono t<
his companion over the mountain, because *' We
wood's lioyal Volunteers*' were on duty that (
at Muttenlale, about five miles distant, »oi
started by himself.
More than three months after, on the C5tli
or 7th April, 1805, a shepherd named Willia
Harrison, in the employ of Mr. Mounsey,
proprietor of Pattcrdale Hall, was on Helvelj
looking after sheep, when, at the bead of the "
Tarn, and near Swirrel Edge, he was much
prised by the barking and nppeamoce of a
m that remote and loneJy place. Ah th« 8h<:^pherd
approacheii the creature went on, and he, folloM
with '^ bodin^j thoughts/' came in sight of an obta
to Jm
^e<ifl
at ^M
S"8. It JvitJ. 7i]
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11
on th<^ grouad — n shape of something like what a
TTi^n hi'1 once been. The dog stopped by the
V rm. The ^hophe^t^, awe-«truck, dnred
; r, iind hastened.Tuuch agitated, to Patter-
d:ilc Hy.iL, iibont three miles distant, The dop did
not follow. Harmon having procure^l the aid of
^ other men, caniG hack, und the body wfts carried
lown to the vilhijje. Fida, *^ wild and shjt"
ef«5cd to be caught. She went in her masters
jfetnain*!, barked, aod defeoded herself, biting the
|iuaa who first ^ot hold of her. She was with
flifficulty secured, and then taken in a basket to
^"Kendal to the friends of Goiigh, Her future
remains unknown. If matchleas fidelity deserve*
an honourable montimentj hers ought to be a noble
*' Butt the poor dog, in Ufa the finpeit friend,
The lint Co weicome, foremost to defend ;
Unhonouret! fftlla. Unnoticed all bii worth."
GiUigh was buried at Tirril, near Penrith.
ft api>ears that he must either have tried to go
Tight up the crags of Helvellyn above the Red
Turn, and fallen firom them, or have slipped off the
' ofen snow at the summit. His body lay near
iSwirrel Edge. Certainly he did not, as is generally
mppo:^ed, tumble from Striding Edge. Hia hat
waa discovered many yar^ls higher up the rocks
than where his remainii were finind. Hia bodj^, or
kelcton, was in the clothes, all except the skull,
rhich lay at some distiinc«»
The bitch, poor creature I had whelped in that
wild and solitary ^pot —
** Far in the boiom of Helvellyu,
Remote from public road or divelliog.'*
To shelter herself and her 3'oung from the
intense cold of the stern region, which there rises
♦ ' H'ct above the sea, — the Bed
\ "^1 st of all the Cnmberland and
Ai r^nriMH ,;ni.i i;i K^^,— she had dug out a burrow-
in the fell-side. In it wiks found one whelp about
^ftix weeks old. The puppy waa dead, but the
Uother in gooti condition. What whe could meet
^th on that barren mountain's breast to maintain
bcr and her olfs^pring'B life for no long a time,
"hrough the frost-s% snowH, rains, and storms of
winter, is doubtful. Dead sheep may have been
her support. Thcji© not unfrequently die on the
uouut-ains by disease, falls from the crags, being
aried in unow-drifte, or drowned in swoUen
torrentjk, I>e:id fish ure occasionalJy thrown up on
the moruina of the mountain tarns, Moreover, the
^r ''* black ^lug is not uncommon. Foxes live
ii on field mice, beetles, frogs; and there
_nijgla l>o h*bbit» or other food a dog could subsist
on. How do Uie hill foxes and ravens lire
gh the winter ? A dead sheep during a hard
Nroiild su«ituin a little dog for a lengthened
AiHIiHIlfeMilHilll
^heep are brought down to the valleys in the
winter season, they are not always so, and, at
times, the poor beasts are so famished they eat the
wool from each other's bticks.
There are people who assert the dog devoured
her ma.ster. The supposition is not a probable
one. The Ked Tarn is only about three miles,
from Putterdale and the little inn which the ill-
fated wanderer and his devoted companion left the
vfiry morning of his de^th. Had she chosen to
quit him, — had the loving, enduring, valiant crea-
ture not been indomit^ibly true to him and faithful
to the 8j>ot, — how easily could she have retmced her
stepa. Tliafc unfaltering affection, that indomitable
constancy, is inconsi.^tent with the iden of her
e-ating the body. Moreover, bitches eat their
young when unable fixmi insufficiency of milk to
support them : Fida's little one was untouched,
though dead. Had she fed on her master^s corpse,
it could hartlly have maintained her for three
months— setting deeompo*iition aside— yet she was
even in good condition when discovered, The
hill foxes and ravens probably attacked thtj body
while the poor dog wiis absent hunting for food.
Ravens scent carrion from afar, and some, most
likely, frequented the dark precipices of Helvellyu
itself. George R. Jks^e.
itk
Autograph OF Burns : "To TgRRAUonTr o>*
His Birth-Day'* (5^ S. i. 283.)— Having been
nnvious to know the history of this autograph of
Burns, I applied to its present iwssessor, John
Taylor Johnston, Esq., of New York, to find
whether he couhi tell in what way it had come
into the possession of his friend Mr. Maxwell, of
Dalbeattie, from whom he had received it. He
has kindly furnished me with the following par-
ticulars, which will be interesting to many of your
readers. I ainnot say that I am very well versed
in the handwriting of Burns, and, therefore, my
opinion is comparatively of Httle value. I am in-
clined, however, on comparing this autograph with
those with which I am famQiar, such as *' Scots,
wha hae," to think that it is a genuine autograplu
though the handwriting seems to be smaller than
that which he genemlly used. A friend draws
my attention to the line, —
" I see thy life is stuff O* prief,**
and remarks that the capital 0 is scarcely
what Bums would have used, and which indeed
does not ap{>e!ir in the copy of **N. & Q.,*' so
difficult is itj with all the pains posaible, to give
a fac-simile. Is the expression found in any of
the other known autographs of Bums ; and if so,
does he writ« witli a capitid 1 The autograph h.m
evidently been divided into four parts, and hsut
nin many risks of utter destruction, but ha* Mur-
vived them all, though in a very t:ittepe<I *tatc,
BHiaiiiiiiiiiMiiiiiittHli^
12
NOTES AOT) QUERIEa
^RlLJOLTl^Tl*
*' Dftlbeattic, nc&r Dum&iM, 2Uh Aug. 1659.
" Tho mawuscript on the other tide hereof belonged
at one time to a Miae Muiter* wbu, it is well kuuwn, wiis
an iuiiiDate acquAititance of the poet Buriiii, atid a fre-
Sttient visitor at big house in Dumfriea. Tradition Bay?
hftt it was a gift from the |>oet himwiflf to the lady jibove
named, and that eUe in her turn bestowed it on her
rulivtive^ the Rev. James Little, M)ii]etime miiii»t«r of
the parish of Colvcnd, in KirkcudbriKht'bire, From bia
son-iti'Uw, Mr. Bobtrt Sutherland of Dalbcatlie, it vtub
certainly obtained by Mr Thomas Maxwell of the aume
pHace^ and by him donuted to John Taylor Johnston,
Esq*, of New York. It has been in noBsession of the
fiubecriber hereof for many years, and been compared
with some of the poet's uadieputed autogmphsp aa well
us examined by several pi^rtiei fanulifti* with his hand-
writing, and been infanahly pronounced genuine. Dal-
beattie having fonned purt of the district tiurvi^yed by
Bums iB his capacity of an Officer of Exciic, he was in
consequence intimately known to not a few inhabvtanti
of thti place, and, among others, to the eubkcnber's
mother, (Signed) Thomas Maxwell."
The question arises whether the original addres.^
Bcnt to Terraiighty is lost ; and I suppose that it
must be so, ua Lord Berries htm allowed Mr,
Fra»er to insert si copy of this autograph of Mr.
Johns too in the Book of Caerlaverocki though it
is not quite correctly copied. If the ori^^iujil had
been preserved in the Maxwell family^ thia auto-
graph would not have beea resorted to. In the
copy, which I ^ve in ** N. & Q./' there is a mis-
print, arising likely enough from my indistinct
writinjj;, which it may l)e as well to notice. In-
stead of " Hoke them like Sodom and Gomorroh,''
read " Rake." C. T. liAMAaK.
Thk Jews ly England (5*** S. L 399.)— I think
it cjxu be shown, k propos of the very interesting
extract from the Jewim World, that their earhest
status in thii* country was a much more favoumhle
one than h there descJ-iljed ; aud that it was this that
moved the cupidity of the early '^ Chriatiiin " prieeta
to *^ atir up the fieople" to their jiersecuLion, and will
account for the **»tone43'' of their '* crucify iug Chris-
tiau children on Good Fridays,'* &c. The fullest
investigation upon this point would be of great
utility and intoreat. In Holingiihed's Chro,^ 3^ 15,
and Stowc'a Anns,^ 103^ it is stated that William
the Conqueror and Rufus introduced the Jews into
Eo^%nd to assist them in monetary matters. In
BlomefieM's Norfolky 6^ 1 23^ and Parkius's Norfoll%
8, 481 J it h distinctly eUted that they were hmd-
owners, and lordsof manors as well as money lenders,
Refereiice« are there given to the public reconk.
The same occurred in co. Salop, and I think other
counties also, about the same jieriod ; and it ap-
pears that it was the succeeding kings, particuhirly
John, wlio sided with their per»ecutors aod pocketed
the 8]ioiIs. It would seem from the earliest history
of Salop, that some Jews turned Chri^^tians, for
the following (evidently Jews), with Christiiui and
fiurmuuea, oci^ur there: from a. d. 115<> to 1301*,
viz., John Aaron, Joseph Aaron (a prieut), Eiiaj*
Jonas, Ric. Abel, Adam Hagar, Hemtog Sheakel,
1
and Gdbert Sadoc. An eqtml number, at leaat, of
Jewish names aUo occurs in the early history of
Norfolk. These names (with Christiaii and sur-
name added, and without the ** de ") are generally
found in, or about, some royal demesne ; and, it
strikes me that, as the Jews aasieted the earJ
Norman kings in monetary matters, they ni
have helped them also in managing their cro
lands, forests, chaces, kc. The names occur in
the forest and other rotU. The seven kings of the
heptarchy had each such propertien. They woi ""
all merge in Egbert, tirot monarch of Englai
pass through the troublous times of the Di
tt) the Conqueror ; then, when the New Forest
near to the old capital, Winchester) was complete
they wouhl be comparatively useless, and
" utilized '■ for the Conqueror and his son
Jews. What, might I ask, is further kno^
the subject, and what was the status of tlie
in A. S. times ? There are Jewish names us la;
owners in the Confessor's reign recorded in Doim
day. C. Chattock, F.R.H.B.
Castle Bromwicb.
Hanging and Resitscitation (5** S. i* 44-t'
In reference to this subject, the follow r^ ^'n
from a paper in the QuarUrly Review
1849, p. 393), on ^" Fontenelle, aur liu.vi.Ma-
dee Signes de la ilort/' confirms the stateiuei
quoted by Cyril. Mr. and ^Ira. Manning di
on the gallows In November, 1849, for the mi
der of O'Connor. Just before the executii
Manning asked the fini.sher of the law if he shouli
suffer much pain ; and I remember thinking 9A
the time that it would have been a solace to
culprit could he have read the article in questi(
and known tliat it waa a positive pleasure to
hanged ! — _
*^ An immenie number of persoriB recovered from in-
eeneibility have recorded their nensatioiii, and agree in
the report that an easier end (than hanging) could not
be desired. An acquaintance of Lord Bacon, who meant
to hang himself partially* lost hia footing, and waa cut
down at the lust exircmity^ having nearly paid for hia
curiosity with hiii life. Ue declared that he felt no pain,
and hid only senaation wiis of fire before his cyc«, whi
changed first to black and then to aky-blue. Tf
colours are even a source of plca^mro. A Captain
tagnac, who was hanged in Fraiice during the rcligi
wupi!, and rescued frutn Lhe gibbet at the interoesflion
Vidcount Turtnne, compliuned tlmt, havintr lost all i
in an instant, he had lieen taken from a light of w
the charm defied vleaeription, AikOther criinirtali
escaped ' ^ "* * ' ' '' - cotd, said that, afi
second it ed< ntid across it the
UaHti/iii iv IV, of France teat
physician iu qui<btii>u hiui^iiikud when mention waA
of a pardon, the man nna^er^d cohily that it wa«
worth the asking. The n^ ■•-!*' *.f'tho de ^'"^
renders it uselera to mult ii -), Tbey
in every book of Tnrd'rnl ■ ■ c. All i
the unt:^
feeling
hues StuU i^i^ .,. ..-.^ .,,^: .;-.r,.--^ -' -» '^-
boen gased ou for a tririat spAce, the rest is obli
1
iam
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»
»
Til ! from tbe reality of tbe eituntion, la
«ifL e moft remote from thtki whicU fills
tliL^ .^. -: .:. ..j,.^cULtorf — the vile mbble, ibe bideouB
gftlloiTi, »nd th« struggliDg form th&t twings io tbe
wind/'
H. A. Kennedy.
Wi^rlo<> Lodge, Beading.
" Aug. 3" (1805). ** Walked with Fiiiii round tbe gaol.
Tbe ipikllows erecting for tbe execution, F. meotioned
tbat ft friend of his had often (1) inquired of a perron
f»ho btul been turned off, mid cut down on a repneTtt,
Kvhitt wtfre bia 8en««tione. He ^lud tbe prepftr&ttOQS
Mrere dreadful beyond all expresiion. On being dropped^
be found hifABelf ami dit fieldji and nrerg uf bloody gradcudlj
atquirtng a greenith tioge,— imagined if bo could reach
a certain tpot in the tame be fbould be easy, — struiEgled
forcibly to attain it,— atid fett no more !*' — Green's Diary
quoted in GftUteman's Mageuiiu, May, 1834.
I knew one who in like manner "babbled of
^jfeea fields ^ on his recovery from drowning.
Qui VIS.
Lavikia Fbnton, DucnESs of Bolton (5"^ S.
i. 488.) — I thought most sstudenta knew that
Hogurtli ptunted one of hi» best portraits from this
lady. It waH engraved by G. W ataoD, and ta now,
or wiifl while comprised in the Second Exhibition
of Nntionftl Portraits, 1B67, in the poasession of
Mr, Brin^lcy Marlay ; it bore the number 240.
It bxH been also enji^^ved by other hands than
those of Wataon* (Jack) Ellys likewise painted
her, itnd his work was engraved by Faber, l72Sy
prtant year in her hiatoiy. Hogarth's like-
IIW8 rather more than a buBt, in a low lace-
_ 'dre^s, with a flower in the bosom and a
necklace of pearl;^. The ArtiDdel Society published
II fiurly successful plioto^iph from the original,
taken while that work was at South Kensington.
She looka about forty years of age, and proliably
aat to Hogarth in 1748, or about that time.
F. G. S.
Pastorini (.5*^ S, i 4<>6) was the name assumed
by Dt. WalraAley, a bishop of the Church of Rome
la England, in the title of his work on the Eeve-
Ution of St. John* In it he predicted the de-
jtraction of all heretics in 1825. The falsification
of this prophecy has caused his book to bo almost
forgot t4jn. The same befell a work on unfulfilled
ffophecy by one Fleming, which foretold the
VII of the Puptury in 1848 ; and also a
uptdet called Tht Cirming Siruggk^ which
made A great noii»c just after the cio^e of the
Wiir. S. T. P.
hsBAK ^ (5«» S. i. 4G9.)— This word is Gaelic,
means an adder. Highlanders, as a matter of
coonr^ declare tliat Giielic is older thun Hebrew,
liartng been the hinguji^je spoken by Adjim and
Jive ia Pufndi^e. 1 quote from memory : —
•* Wben in tbe Wwcis of paradiae
E%e Unit t«*t Adam's view,
Tlie ftrftt wortj that bo iaid to her,
Of coui^ the ^; the lait plita&e is not
Celtically corrci r the benefit of your
re^uiers who do not understand Gaelic, I may state
that it means ** How are you to-day 1 " J. H,
The proper name of one of the sons of David,
mentioned in the lists next after Solomon and
before Elisha, 2 Samuel v. 13-10 ; 1 Chroa. iiL
6 ; xiv. 4-7. It aignifies "whom he (sc. God)
chooises." By Jose^os (ArUiq* rii. iii. 3) it is
written Jeban. W, Platt.
Conserrative Club.
Latin and ENousa Quantittt (5*^ S. i. 464.)
— Something might be said in defence of Byron'g
** tribanal," strange aa it sounds. Anyhow, there
are many Latin words of which we English
habitually diaregard the Latin quantity , owing to
our fondnedss for lengthening the penultimate,
like auditor and inteTWcHt&r. The atory is well-
known of the Scotch advocate who, upon speaking
of airdtOTM before an English judge, wa.s reminded
by him that the word should be pronounced curd-
tors^ in the Latin manner. " I supposed," retorted
the advocate, ** that I was folio wiog tbe English
proDunciation ; but I bow to the decision of so
great a nemtor and eloquent an ordt&r tis your
lordship." Jl H. I. Oaklkt.
Heraldic (b^ S. i. 449.)— In answer to P. 0, E.,
the arms, &c., belong to the family of Wilson, of
Queenaferrj', Scotland.
Wm. Jackson Pigott.
DandnuD^ co. Down.
'' Te' berrin's gone by," &c (5«* S. I 468.)—
This ftaytng, exactly as Hermentrude gives it, ia
very common in Craven ; but it is chiefly confined
to achool-boys. At Skipton and Cnrleton Gram-
mar Schools, when a boy
** Just arrired in time to be too late '*
for a share of ** toffy " or *' bull's-eye," he was
always greeted by us with the proverb. I never
could find any meaning in it. Anthony is a very
common name in Lancaahire and Oraveo.
Stepeen Jackson.
"There's somewhat in this world amiss"
(G**» S. i. 468.)— This is in what is now the third
verse of Alfred Tennyson's pniem, " The Miller's
Daughter," p. 83, edition 11S48 of Po^nut ;—
" Yet fill my gbua : give mc one kiss !
My own sweet AUce. we miwfc die.
There '« somewhat in ibis world amiss
^ball bo unriddled bj and by,
There 's totuewbat fiow<» to u« ih Ufe,
But more is taken quite awuy.
Pray, Alice, pray, my dmrling wife.
That wo may dietlie f^-irmrue dity.
It is by no means improbable that the last line
tt: " ^ ^ suggested to Mi^s Dinidi ^^
t ^ion of her best work,
\rML>. u
^umaMtimam
NOTES AND QUERIES.
p** 6. IL Jutt 4, ti
othtrrwisje inemomLle, if it be true, as wu« reportetl
long atro» that it wus brouglit under the notice of
Queen Victoria l»y *Mohniiy who iip^et the coach/'
iind by its winning the iwal favour was tlie
iinmediiite occnBion of piiniuf,'^ for TonnyBon the
newly vacj*nt Liinreatslup. lu the first edition,
1833, there is un openiaw ver^^e, now omitted : —
** I met in mil tbo close green vraya.
While vriilkinp wUli my line and rod.
The we alt by Miller'a mealy fiice,
Like the moon in an ivy-tod.
He h»oked go jully uni to good
While Hiihinu; In the mUl-dam waterj
I laufihed to «ec him M ho stood.
And dreamt not of tbe Miller's d&ughter.**
J. W. E.
MolRfihi by Ashfordi Kent.
Mrs, -Cow den Clarke's Shakspearb Co^s-
coRDANCE (5*^ S. i. 485*) — It is a curious circum-
stance thftt it would he inipoi<siblc for any one to
verify a certain well-known Shakspeurlan quota-
tion—
" 'Tib in ourfolvu tbjit we ftre tfaui. or thus/'
OiktUo, Act L flc. 3,
by referring to this excellent Concordance, for the
reason thtit it entirely consists of the simplest
words. These the accomplished compiler bus nutu-
ridly omitted^ otherwise they would have swelled
her hmk to nn enormouis hulk.
JonatHjVn Boucriko.
Dr. William Dudd {Ty^^ S. i. 488.)-'Seo also
•' a f\A\ . . , , Account of tbe life and trial of . , , ,
Doctor Dodd," Lc. Lond, [1777 1» linio.
'* Genuifie jMeinoirsi of the Rev. Dr. Dodd ; containing
manv curious anecdotes." .... bond* [1777 J, Svo.
**Tbe trial and the life of the Rev. Dr. Dodd.**
tPtLJ 1777, Svo.
Allibone refers to the Memoirs prefixed to his
Thoughts in Pruon; Jones's Lift of Hornc; Gen-
tleman's Miuja::ini', Ix., 1010, '66, '77 ; and Boa-
well*s Life of Dr. Johnson.
Sparks HEXDERsoy Williams.
IS, Kenmngton Crescent, W.
FLEtjR DE Lyb (5"^ S. L 480,)— The old name,
flower de luce, is **a pknt of the genua /mV;
yellow flag; Iris pmudacontii**:WoT€GHU>t's Eng-
lish Didimta'nj, The quotiition from ShakB^^eare,
lltnnj VI., Pt, I. Act i. Bi% i., commonly cited
with the word la —
" Cropped are the flower de lucea in your arms ;
Uf Englnntl'a coat one half is cut uway.'^
The word is still inserted in dictionariet> : " Fleur-
deliser, to cover with flower de luces."— J. E.
Weisseley 8 French Didionartj, Routledge. Flower
de lis is the mode of spellin^r In Guillim'ti DvtpUnj
of Heraldry, § iii. c. x., p. 143, Lond,, 1660 :—
'* But of all other, the Flower de lis is of most esteem,
b&Ting been, from the firat. bearing the charge of u
Beg»l eicocbeon^ ongin&lly boroo by the French Kinga,
though tract of time hath made the bearing of them
mof© Tiilgtr."
£d. Marshall.
il
t in
[tia
g m
nn4l
"This MAURIAOB is a TERRtULK tuis^o,"
(5*1* S» i. 488.) — Thc«e Une8 appear to he meant i
the following in Hood s Miss Kilmanscgif^ Part [
** Her Marriage '* : —
•* Yet wedlock 's a very awful thing \
'Tis sonicthiiii^ like that feat in the ringj,
Which requires good nerre to do it —
When one of a ' Grand EqueBtrian Troop *
Makes a jump at a gilded hoopi
Not certain at all
Uf what mav befull
After hiB getting through it I ''
Jonathan Bouchier,
PoptJLAR Verses bearino Serious Aliaisiohis
(h^ 8. i. 380.)— Your correspondent (J. W. trn
lie glad to see what Mr, J. 0, Halliwell
{Nuncnj Ehymtis of England, 6th edition, p,
concerning ** 8ing a Song of Sixpence ^' : —
" The firat line of this nursery rhyme is quoted in
Beaumont and Fletcher's Bofiduat, Act v,, ic» 2. It is
probable, alfio, that Sir Toby alludei to this song in
Twr.ifth Ni'jhi, Act, ii., ic. 2, when be rays, * Come
there is a tixpenc© for you ; let 's have n song."
KpHiano ; or^ ik€ Jialian Banffuet^ 1589, i* a receipt
make pies to that tbe birds may be alive in them n\
flie out when it is cut up/ a mere device^ live birds
being iutrcduced after the pie ii made. This may be t'
oriKinal subject of the following song, * Sing a i?ong
Sixpence.*"
CtmiBERT BbdeJ
Plavs oy "Plat'* {5^ S. i. 423.)— A plj
culled Thirty Years of a Gombk/s Life ib oe^
sionally on the bills uf the Theatre Royal, ~
mingham ; this, us the scene is laid at Paris
suspect to be a translation of Tunic Ans ;
la Vie t^ttn Joueur. Among plays containii
^amblintr episodes should be included
Lytton s comedy, Monty. S. FoxALi
Edgbaston.
FoLK-LoRE OF THE Hare (^j^^ S* i, 427.)-
Tlte CliTonides of Mernf Enfflantl, London, l^
Book ii„ § 4, is— "She " (Boadieea) "had a an
in her hand, and a live hare \vithin the folciaj
her loose-bodied gown, which, nl the end of
speech, she let slip for f/oo(/ lucL'' The italics ,
mine, J, Manuel.1
"Paws'* (5*1' S* i. 460) are mentioned
" itinerant broom -vendors— a northern name."
have not met with this word oa a name, nor heard^
applied to broom -vendors, or, rat her, as we call them,
" Eussuni-maekers.- ' Foa was the name of a tribft
of Gypsies located on the Boniers, and of which c.
Will Faa was, in his day, the kin;^. Sir Wall
Scott, I think, mentioni* this tribe in one of
novels. The name seems, at one time in the bori
country, to have been appbed to a mischievQ
pickle of a child. A lady of my ac»|uaint«tnce
forms me that, when a child, her grand moth
who came from the border country, occasiona
reptoved her thus : " 0, you little Ftui !'' It woa
be used, also, playfully, as "0, yoa little Gypsy I *''
8»a.iLJoLT4,'74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
15
I
occasion (illy to l^e lieurd in these duys. 8ir Wiilter
has Gabriel Fua, in (rvy Mtxnrmiuff^ aa tht^
nephew of Meg Merrilies, J, N,
BiirDArii Cmstlc.
'* Market " (5*^ S, I 469) may refer to the Isle
of Hsirken, a little N.E. .\jiisteruAm.
R. S. Chabkock.
Gnhy'i Itin.
Yorxo's ** NiOBT Thoughts '' (5«* S. i. 365.)—
Tbe above poem may not stiit tlie taste of the
present rery stipe rior age, but it contuinA a re-
iDHrkAble number of pjiasagea lit for quotation,
I would instance the following : —
•'Humble Love,
And not proud Eea^n, keeps tbo door of Hearen.''
** Tbe spirit w&lks of every day deceased,
And emil«s Rti anget, or » fury fi-owns."
** Fniib buitda & bridge from tbia ivorld to tbe next*
O'er De&tb's dark gulf^&nd all its borror bides."
That tbe i>oeti5 have read Night HioughU with
aittention and sympathy is evident from the
t manner in which they Iiave borrowed from that
production. To cite a very few caaes : —
" Man wants bat little, nor tbat little long/'
NigfU iih,
"Man want! but tittle bero below^
■ Kor wants that little long."
■ Goldamitbi Edmin and An^tiina.
r ''A preTiQUB bla«t fortelA tbe rising storm/'
NiyfU 3rc/.
•• Coming erenta cast their ibadows before."
Campbell's Lochicl't )Varninff.
*' Hit crimen forgive ! forgive his virtues too ! "
*' Forgiro wbat seem'd my Bin in mo,
w Wbat •cem'd roy worth since I began.**
■ Tennyson's In M'fnwnafn.
T J. w. w.
CxfiBTTLED BaRONKTCIES (5** S. l 125^ 1J>4,
i52L} — ^W. BL*s objection to the House of Lords
deciding claims to baronetoiea is, I thinks very
well founded, but some of his remarka are scarcely
accumte. For instance, he aays that tbe Houito
of Lords acta as referees and advisers of tbe
Crown in peerage cases, and that peerage cbims
are always referred to them. This is, of course^
tbe general rule, but there have been crises where
tbi! clami to a peerage has been disputed ami
tliaalbwed by the Peers themselves, on the jfrouod
of Want of power in tbe Crown to create such a
peervge^ a«, for instance, the creation of the life
pprtttge of Wensleydale, where the House declined
10 allow a Peer to sit, notwitlistanding a writ of
aittnmona from the Crown. Agiiin, W. M., in
a^nswer to Mb* tSTRATToN, denies the analogy of
th» cUima to Irish and Scotch peerages with that
of ' ' T'Ut the Lord.s certainly
h / Crown, taken cogni-
affect themselves as a House. A modern case in
Cint wa* tbe claim of the co-heiresses of the bUe
»rd Willougbby d'Eresby to a moietj^ of the
office of Hereditary Great Chamberlain, and tbe
reference to the Peers in cases of attainder or
abeyance, in view of those disabilities being re-
moved by the Crown, supports, to a certain extent,
this ^-iew of tbe matter. W. M. also rcmsirks
that a baronetcy can in Scotland be indirectly
established by a Decree of Ser\'ice, and that a
right under a Ser\uce of 1821 cannot now be called
in (Question. But this could not in any way, I
take it, affect a baronetcy or peerage ; for it is an
undeniable rule that the Crown cannot suffer from
neglect or laches, and that no enjoyment of an
hereditary dignity, however long, can give an
indefeasible title.
If I might suggest a tribunal to decide claims
to baronetcies, I should certainly fix upon the
Probate Court, and mainly for thb reason, viz.,
because it already has, under the powers given by
the Legitimacy Declaration Act, the power of
deciding many, if not most, of the disputed baro*
netcies, e.ff.^ Payne, Vane, Codrington, Frederick,
&c. The process might be very simple. Let the
Garter, the Lyon, and the Ulster Kings^at-Arms
draw up yearly a roll of the baronets of the three
Kingdoms, as is now in the ciise of the peemge
done by Garter and Ulster. Let them admit to
such rolls those baronets only who could prove
their right to their dignities*, in tbe same manner
as a Peer proves his right to a i^Tit of summons on
the death of his ancet^tor, and give them the
power in case of any doubt or n\H>n the motion of
a rival claimant, whether to a dignity on or off
the rolls, to transfer the consideriition of the ease
to the Probate Court, and give the Crown ]Kiwer
to attend any proceedings. If a power of nppeal
should be desired, the most appropriate would bo
to tbe Queen in Council, that is, to tbe Judicial
Committee. This is not, and never can be, a
popular question ; but if some M.P, or Peer of
legal training would introduce a well-considered
bill on the nubject, it is difficult to see what
objection there could be to its being carried into
kw. E. Passingium*
W, M. says,—
^' If, in tbfl cfise of Dick, tbe right to the baronetage
was Yc - ! son 90 recently as 1 S21 , and the present
claim I I since that date upon tbe mere quevtion
of proj , ^ 1 ! that person, and u tfowi in t'tsei/f tbd
expense ot a service would be comparatively triding.*'
This I grant; but as no such baronetcy ever
existed, no service can be of any avail
Setu Wait*
Sbizino Corpses for Debt (4** S. xii 158» IQO,
2m y 5«* S. i. 49<».)— This repulsive i ' 'f^ to
mind Masstngcrs Fatal ]Jon*ri/^\\\ivi
16
NOTES AND QUERIES
MATsha) of Burgundy, whose body^ ^^ Imving died
a prisoner for debt, is arrested at the prison door,
when his son engages to satisfy the creditors, —
'* WiioflC cruelty denied him rest in deiith/*
and snirendew himself to obtain its sepulture.
The supposed instance of Sir Barnard Turner,
in 17iS4, was imitated half-a-century later, hut do
less supposititioiisly, I hope, as I heard it whispered
at tlie funeral of a friend, I remember, however,
an epigram, older, I believe, than the poor baronet's
case, when the privations, the afflictions, the
squalor, suffered by robbers and murderers, were
heaped as heavily on debtors, ad pttnam^ as being
erpmlly criminal in not paying their creditors : —
** Of old, to debtorf who iiuol?cnt died
E^^'vpt the rites of sepulture dented :
A Jilfcrent trmlo euliglitened ChristUiis drirc.
And chftritftbij bury them alive/'
E. L. S,
Sir Thomas Strang ewats (5"» S. i, 127, 1»4,
318.) — I ought to have taken more notice of the
fact that J. F. M. spoke of Viscounty not Lord,
Beaumont, My reason for doubting the m:\rriage
was certainly not the absence of grant or panion,
which, a« J. P. M. suggests, would disprove
nothing. It was the consideration that I had
never met with any allusion whatever to Katherine
Neville as Livdy Beaumoni I understand him to
say tkiit the marriage is proved by dociimcntiirj'
evidence ; if bo, there is an end of tho cpiestion.
My note of the pardon contains no description of
Sir Thomas Strangeways ; and I think it would
have done so, had there been any,
HE&MEKTRtrDlS.
BuxjA (5^ S. I 287, 374, 417, 458.)— Is there
not an error here ? It is not from personal know-
ledge, but only on the authority of books, that I
speak when I say that it is Btid^, and not PeM,
which is otherwise called Of en ; Anglic^ ovtn or
stofHs, From my own knowledge, I may add
th/it the equivalent of 0/m is, in Ec<^l. Slavonic,
Fi^^hfck, and in RiiBsinn, Fetch. With the Polish or
Bohemian variants I am not acquainted,
W. B. 0.
CawpBR : Trooper (5^^ S. i. 68, 135, 272, 316.)
— If the following letter, wluch appears in the
Europmn Ma^axine, 1814, vol Ixvi. pp, 386, 387,
does not materially help to settle the controversy
at prenent being waged in " N. & Q.,'* it may prove
somewhat Interesting in showing that Kixty yejirs
ago the pronunciation of the name of Cowjxjr was
a subject of discussion in the correspondence
columns of a popular monthly periodica! : —
** It appe&ri to me fAther sin^lar that there should
oxitt ft diversity of opinion with regard to the pronun-
ciation of the lume of Cowprr. That a gentleman of
tlmt uwne, belonging to the HauBe of Commoni, is callcti
Cooper^ instead of Cotrpn, prtjves nothing, but that tfatt
pronunciation ia errone'ous. One of your Correspondents
jsiys, that he knowBi only one word analogous to Cowper
in which the w is dropped in pronouncing it, imd that is
Snowden ; hut as this word is evidently composed of
tnow and dov^n. (a plain upon a barren bill), the tir^t
gyllftble ought to retain its original eound, Sno. We fay
Sno'fnll, nut Snoo'hiilf or Snou-hUl. For the some reason
Cowper can neither be pronounced Coper nor Coopfr, or
else we mu^ also say Coatd, or Cooard, for Cowar\i. The
diphthong f>w is pronounced either o or o», but never wj,
119 far u I know* If in sumamei it were to eound like
00, then we ought to pronounce the names Bowles*
Brownlow, Crowder, Howard, Howland, Lowtht'r, Lowry^
Owen, Rowley, Townshcnd, &c.> Boolst, Brmmlo*), Cror^der,
Hooardf H(H>l^Hd, Lootktr, L&ory, Ootn, Rooteift Toon^
tfundf &c.*'
This correspondence had its origin in a manner
characteristic of the times, not, as in ** N. & t^.," by
a correspondent quoting a verse in which C'Owper
was made to rhyme with Trooper. ** A Constant
Header " relates that, '* sitting otvr tht bottir one
day with some friends," he hnp|)ened to iu?k a gentle*
nmn whether he had read Uowper's poems, ** pro-
nouncing it as if it had been spelled Cooper," and
his friend replied that he had not read Cowper's
poems, ** pronouncinfT the first ayllnble as you would
pronounce tho quadruped cow'' (*t<?).
It appears to me that the ** ingenious " writer
(as he would be tenued in those days), who, in all
likelihood, has been long since gathered unto his
fathers, in the letter I have given above, has made
a very good defence of the common pronunciation
of the name of Cowper, The fact of some versifier
having made Cowper rhyme with Trooper should
not, I think, be any criterion, and, until I see
better reasons for changing my opinion than liave
as yet appeared on the !*ubject in *' N» & Q.," I for
one shall continue to pronounce Cowper ** as you
would pronounce the (luadruped cow.*'
W. A. C.
Oloagow.
Watnkclowtes : Plooh-clowtbb (6»** S. i.
167,232,338):—
" In riii. moldbredes (plough mold board) empti* xiid.
*^ In ii. moldbredclontz (iron platee) emptiA xiid.
** In xii. clut' cmpt' xi\d.
** In ii* clout naii emp* virf."
From Cmnpotus of y" Sttimnt of Sir John de Itard^
Mhnl, 33 Ed. III. (ftarh Roll. A.A. 31.)
Felix LAtrRE^cT.
Saleby.
P,S. " dottt : aH iron pkte to keep an axle- tree
from wearing." — Johnson's IHcL
Swans (5»* S. i. 308, 338.)— Jodrell, in hia |
IlluHrationJs of Enripidts^ after having considered
the ancient idea of the musical quality of tho
swan, enumerates the authors and witnesses of 1
more modem times who acknowledge and support I
it, and, on the other hand, those opposed to these |
authorities. (lofi^ pp. 43-74.)
BlELtOTaEOAR* CHBTILAir.
I
>8.IL J«iLT4,7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
IT
Classical Sigk-boards (6*^* S. i. 20B, 395.)—
When a schoolboy at Fulnec, near ljeed$, wcU-
"gh sixty years ago, I retnemhert on ooe of our
^•chool excursion 8 to Kirkstall Abbey, noticing on
the liign-board of the chief inn of the neighbouring
village the short Greek motto, rh ^rrpiTrov. Greek
mottoes on the sign- boards of our villa^ inns
must, I imagine, be mre. Octis.
Eifletj, Beds.
Bardolf op Wiumegat (5*^ S. i. 227, 293,
41 R)— I regret to say that I cannot answer the
qaeriei} in Cf. A* C/s last communication. Perhapa
he will find replies by taking the advice |»iven him
by Tkwars. ' Hermentrdde*
"How THET BROUOHT THE GoOD NeWS FROM
GmoiT TO Aix" (5* S. L 71, 174, 298, 418.)—
Mr. Browning, while on a yachting expedition in
the Mediterranean, w^as once lying becidmed. The
&ncy »tnick him, what would I give for a goo<l
gallop ! Aa a I'Jcvrc/io? ttAo it«E he wrote the ballad
in question. I have heard the story at firBt bund,
F. Storr.
Tbb SxnrpLowER (^^ S. i. im, 256, 417.)-
This flower is called gtrasol in both Italian and
Spanish^ and derives its name from turning, girare,
in both langnages. From one of tbe^e languages
comen our JeroBalem artichoke, which has nothing
to do with Jerusalem, but a great deal with its
reHBubhinre to the giratol, or sunflower.
E. L. Blekkiitbopp.
[ShOTTEK Hebrino (St** S. i. 146,194,276,449,)
^ f Taylor s WorhSj iii. 5 : —
" Though they like shotten-beiring* arfl to we,
Yet rach t&ll Bouldier^ of their teeth tbej be
That two of them, like greedy cormorants,
Devour more than sixe Loneat protestanta."
Fredk. R^le.
^Thomas Frte (5^^ S. i. 269, 3 J 6, 419, 470.)—
the portrait of the Queen of Denmark
\to under the above heading i« not by Frye.
■iting I have seen a reduced engraving of
DO sabject by Wataon aft^r Cotea, I was
led into the mistake from seeing it among the
by Frye in the Print-room of the British
Charles AVtlie.
" (4^ S. xii. 324, 395, 438 ; r,^^ S. I
Ii7 377.) — Permit me to ffugg<*Rt tbnt this
cxpktitfe lA, like most or»tha, of the<»l tn,
lad ui nynonymous with the obsoh /v»
ptcpervnd in Thjin Aldrich^s Bark the ^onny
CVilteAiiftrA iklU^ which sound —
' r/y jjTcat."
Hexrt Attwku*
jam PmissoLAft M£04yi($>^
^^jyg^^^^
458, 498.)— Permit a final paragraph to this sub- ]
ject to recommend a perusal of vol. ii. of Chris*!
topher Kelly's History of ihe Wartf^ where the!
reader is told, and quite correctly, that **<ttfry
individual present ^^ at Waterloo received the
medal J. W. FLKMtsro.
Brighton.
St. Catherhte of Siexka (5«* S. i. 387, 433.)
— I copy the annexed titles from various cata*
logues I —
1. '' Vie de Siiinte Catherine de Sienne, par Raymond
de Capoae, iuivie du Suppl6ment da Thomas Gitflarini et
dcfl terooignage* dea diicitilei de Sainte Catherine anJ
Sroce* de Venise." (Edition*, Paris, ISiSS and 1859»1
Raymond of Capun waa her Confessor)
2. The same work tr&nRtnted, Dublin, 1S57.
3. "The Life of Saint Catbcrinc of Siena, New Yofk.'*
0 By Father PormbjJ
4. "Catherine de Sienne. Fioreti utili»iml extract! J
dal diuto Dval()go vulgaro da ta Seraphica ipoaa dt
Cbristo Saneta Gktharina da Siena del tertio ordin« di
Sco. Domenfco (A la fin). Impresfte in Perrara per
Laxirentio de Eubei da ValenUn. ISllj'* in Sro. with
portrait. ■
5. " Catharina SeneneiA. Vita ac mtrneula telectiora
formia aeneis expresaa Venitiia. 1755,'' in 4to., 34 platea.
Noa 4 and 5 ire quoted in Catalogue AlaiBODneave etC**.
Pans, 1870.
E. A. P.
WooLSTOK Well, West Felton (5"» S. i. 449,
51^.) — The local traditions are singularly meagre.
1 have never heard any date assigned to the .
building. It is evident, I tliink, that the cottage
over the well was formerly used m a chapel, and
there are some persons in the neighbourhood (tny-
&elf amongst the number) who would be glad to
see it restored as such. The water of the well ia '
singularly pure and clear ; it is mid to be good
for the eyes. I hojK* that some one will be able
to discover more about it than
The Rector^s Wife.
SrER^fE AS A Poet (5'*^ S. i. 388.)— I copy the
following from the account of C<»xwold in Gill's
VallU Ehorac^iuis : —
'*The following piecso of original ijoetry, by Sfcerna,
has been handed dnwa in Bueeet«on from the com>
poeer tn the rev. gentletnen who have auooeedod him
in the living of Cox^old, and through the kindness of
the Rev. George Scott is now presented to the public ; —
The Uwkkowk" 0.
Verses occa«ion*d by hearing a PftM>Bellj
B>* y- Rev'. Mr, St a.
Hark* my gay Fr'' j* eolemn Toll
speaks y* departure of a soul ;
Iii gone, y" all we know— not where
Qr how y* unbody*d ioal do's fare.
In y^ mynterioaa 0 none knowa,
But 9 at<>ne to w" it goes ;
To whom departed aouls retttm
To take y" Doom, to niiilo or mourn,
^^^^ Oh ' by v,^ t^Hmm'ririLf liutit wgvie
^^^Bie un' '
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5" 8. IL JULT i, 74.
God baa lock'd up y* myetic Pa^^v-
Atid curtiutL*d dftrkiieaa rguad y" stage !
Wife }^ to render Msrch perplext,
Hm driivra 'twixt y' 0 & y' next
A dftrk unpenetrable icreen
AU b«biod w*^ is yot unsecoi f
We tatk of 8, wg talk of Hell ;
But w* yy« loean no tongue can tell I
Heaven U y* retiim t?bere angels are,
And Hell y* cbaoe of despair.
But w' y*" awful trttths Imply,
None of ub know before we die !
Wheth**^ wo will or no, we muet
Take y* succeeding 0 on tni«t.
Tbls hour perhaps o"" Fr"^ is well.
Death-struck y" next he cries, Fazewell !
I die ! — k y"^ for ought we see,
CettAGs at once to breathe & be.
Thu* launch *d f"** life's ambiguous shore,
TnguTpb'fi in Death appears no more.
Then undirected to repair
To difttant 0* we know not where.
Swift flies y" 1^, perhaps 'tis gone»
A thousand Icikgnes beyonil y' sun ;
Or 2" 10 thousand more 3" told.
Ere y" forsaken clay is cold !
And yet who knows if Fr*'^* we lov'd
Tho* dead inay be ho far remov'd ;
Only y* vail of fl«sh between*
Perhaps yy. watch us though unseen.
Whibt we, y'^ loss Uinentingf say,
They're out of hearing far away ;
llnardians to us perhaps they're near^
Conceard in vehicles of air.
And yet no notices yy. give.
Nor tell us where, nor how yy. live ;
Tho* conscious wliiUt with us below,
How much y""* d««ired to know.
As if hound up by solemn Fftte
To keep v" veoret of y^' state.
To tell y"' joys or paina to none,
That man might live by Faith alone.
Well* let ray suverdgn, if ho j)Iease|
Look up his marvellous decrees ;
Why sh"* I wish him to reve&l
W* be thinks proper to couceat T
It is enough y* I believe
HeaTen 's bright y" I can conceive :
And lie y' msJtes it all his csre
To istve God here shall »eit him there •
But oh 1 w' 0* shall I survey
The moment y* I leave y* clay t
How sudden y' surprise, how new f
Let it, my God, be h^ppy too," *
J, G. B.
Bar Sikistkr (5^»* S. L 268, 314, 4 L=*,)— Bogging
Mn. Stephen Jackson's pvrdon, tho mark of
illegitimate descent in heraldic bearings is not a
hmd. sinister, but a baton amister^ the latter figure
being a diminutive (in width) of the former, and
• ExplanaUon of the ^rmbols, kc. :— © world ;
^ He ; b heaven ; 1^ soul ; y"* th«mselv«8 ; y th ;
yy they ; y* them, fto.
Ljing tninctited at each end, instead of extending
entii'ely across the shield. The first Dukes of
ClevelaDd, Grafton, and St. Albans, natural sons
of Charles 11., bore hia arms with a baton sinister
over all, to mark their illegitimacy. In tliose
days, such a mark of connexion with royalty was
considered an honourable distinction in a coat of
nnnt, and some heraldic authorities write with
scorn of the notion that any marks of diBtrniee
were ever inserted in heraldic bearinp. The term
" bur sinister/* in English heraldn% would not only
he a misnomer, but would involve in it an im-
{Kissibility ; for as a bar Is a horizonttd figure,
extending entirely acroes the shield, it could not,
as a whoic, be either dexter or sinister* I think,
however, that I can explain how the term *' bar
sinigter " has crept into our language. In a curious
work on heraldrj' now before me, published in
1724, and which I fancy is now Bomewbat rare,
viz*, Johnston's Notitia An^lic^nu (see vol. ii.
p. 54-6), it ifl .stated that the French heralds have
no " bend sinister" in their heraldry, but call it a
" ban" So it would seem that " bar sinister *' is &
Gallicism. Johnston ridiculejs the idea of any
heraldic betiringa lieing pigniticant of dingnice.
At the eaiue time, I imagine that all hernld« admit
that there are de^ree-i of Iron our in the i>ositIon
of figures in the field, and that the sinister side
of a shield is less honounible than the dexter.
M. ait
Surely a *' baton 8inist^?r *' is also used as n
mark of illegitimacy. It may be ^een at this
monient pbiced on the shield of the Royal arms
of Englund borne by the Fitz-Roys, Dukea of
GrartoiL John PickforD| M.A.
Kewbounie Eectoryi Woodbridge,
Welsh Testament (:>^ S. i. 9, 173, 256, 393.)
—I opened this correspondence in order to call
attention to imjportxmt variances between the
English and Webb versions, and with a view to
ascertain whether the New Testament Company,
ID collating different versions, are taking any notice
of the Welsh vension. I only quoted the c^iae of
the miracle at Cana as one Instance out of many,
in which it appears to me that the Welsh ia more
clear and forcible than the English. Possessing
but i\ Bupcrticial knowledge of Welsh, I may have
been mistaken^ as pointed out bv Mr, IJnnone and
SKtMA, in tmnjilating the Wclsn "mo'r*' into the
English 7nore^ and I don't dispute their correctness.
At the same time I have this excuse, that one of
the dictionary me^mings of the W^elsh '*mo" i«
jHorc of. However^ this error does not atfect my
main contention, that the W^elsh version, stating
clearly that the wine ha<l run ahort^ is more ex*
pressive than the English, in which it is at least
doubtful whether there Ijtui been any wine originally
provided. Sioma admits that the Wethh is leas
vagne. My object now is to point out two in-
4
P»8.1I JCLTl, 7AJ
NOTES AND QUERIES.
19
»
k
tftanc<?3, in the next chapter (S. John iii.)j where the
English and Welnh are strikingly difi'erent ; tlie
difference being, in my opinion, in favour of the
latter. Verse 16^ " Thnt whosoever believeth in him
fihonld not perish, but have everlastinf^ life/' The
words *^ but have everlasting life " are thus rendered
in the Welsh : " ond caffael o fwno fy wyd tmg)^-
^ddol/' the meaning of the latter being ** but
ohlain frovi liim eternal Hfe/' The diflerence is
lilo€t important^ Again, in verso 33 (English),
*'that God is inxc"; (Welsh), ** mai gcirtmr yw
Duw" (that God i"* iniih- »j)eaHnfj or truthful,
literaUy true in word). The difference here is of
special iinportance, as i^eeeh is referred to in the
innuediate context : indeed in the very next verse
occurs the expression (English) ** speaketh the
words of God. * I observe that in the Luther
Bible the word " wahrhaftig '* (tntthful) is used
for the Bnglish true. It itppeara to me that the
English word is more genertd — not to say vague
— toan either the Germnn or Welsh, and not
nearly so expressive in relation to the context tm
thektter. M. H. K.
*'R«/ji?rALD Trevor: a Tale,'' &c., by Ed-
ward Trevor Anwtl (4i*» S. viiu 327, 462 ; 5^
S. I SC, 413.) — On'iiAR Hamst has overlooked
that jjuvrt of the note of Cymro am Btth in which
Ihe writer remiirks that " Anwyl ■* is a Welsh aur-
QAfne as well as an adjective. The Cambrian
Quarttrltf Magazine for April, 1829, in a review
of "Reginald Trevor," speaks of the author as
** Mr. Anwyl,^' and the author, in tliat name, dedi-
e*te« the work to Sir Watkin Williams Wynn,
Youp anagram matie correspondent does not think
the word Anwyl euphonioiLs ; he Ims never heard
fi WeUh mother, in caressing her baby, call it
** Anwyl biich," or he would perhaps alter his
opinion. He is puzzled mth the signature " Cyitiro
Am Byth,'* and fears there may be some hidden
meaning in it. If he will refer to the ULigazines
af the day, he will find " Cymry am By th " as a
motto^ under the trade-mark (a goat) of the Ruthin
Soda Water Works ; and the meaning of the
one is " Welshman," and of the other ** Welshmen
for ever I" Anwyl, as a surname, is not nncomraon
in North Wales : tht? Anwyls of Bahi are the de-
scendants of Evan Lloyd, a friend of ChurchiU,
Wilkes, and Garrick, and who wrote The Mtiho-
dut^ The Foicers of Hit Fen, and other poems.
A. R.
Crocfwyliui, Oswetiry.
**Anw7l Biich" ^little dear; "Deux AnwyF'
=rgoi>d God ! a common expletive, "deax** being
corrupted WeUh«
I aiu " V d that :iJiy fioubt should exist as
tn thi proper name, I have often p<ud
tJiir) i" n tIi Anwyl, who formerly kept a grocer's
Ahop in Belgmvia, and waji n tax-gatherer as weU ;
and having just opened The Itoyfal Red Book for
1B68, 1 find the name there also,
W. J. Bernhard Smith.
Temple«
Arms or Miloate : Radclipfe Family (5***
S. i. 227, 374.) — After much careful study and in-
vestigation of this point, 1 have come to the con-
clusion that there can be but little doubt of thi-*
ancient family of Raduliffe being at the present
time directly represented in the male line by Mr.
Etidcliffe of Foxdentott Hall, in the county of Lan- 1
CBLSten Why his coat of arms is differenced by a I
label, I am unable to say, representing as he does!
the main stem. There are three families at the
present day bearing that time-honoured nanie^
whose arms are underneath described : —
L Raddifle of Foxdenton arms : Argent, two
bends engrailed, sable, over all a label of three
points, gules ; crest, a bull's head erased, sable, i
ducsdiy gorged and chained, azure ; motto, ^*Caen> <
Cresai, Calais/' In addition to Foxdenton, this
family hius extensive estates in the county of Dorset.
2. Radelitle of Rudding Park, Yorkshire, now
represented by Sir Percival Radcliie, Bart. Arm:!,
argent, a bend engrailed, sable, charged with a
crescent of the field for diilerence ; crest, as that
of Foxdenton ; motto, " Virtus propter se." The
name of the first baronet was originally Joseph
Pickford, Esc[.y who, in consequence of the eminent
services he rendered to Government in supprrHsin^l
the Ludditc disturbances, was so created, with the
singular honour of a gratuitous patent. He died
in lbl9.
3. Delmo Ridclitfe, of Hitchin Priory, in the
county of Hertford- Arms, as Radcltile of Fox-
denton, aceording to Clutterbuck's Hittonj of
HerifwdMre, iii., 22 and 23. But Berry p.
Encyclopedia Hcraldica gives as arms, "argent^
a cross crosslet, gules, between two bendlets en-
grailed, sable ; a label of three points, on a canton
firgentj a cross crosslet, or/' The original patro-
nymic of this family was Delm^, and the nameJ
liadcliffc was added m 1S(>2, on coming into pos*"
session of property in right of his wife.
But the arms of Ratcliffe, or RAdcliffe, Earl of
Sussex in the sixteenth century, were : Argent,
a fess, engrailed, sable. John Pickpord, M.A,
Newboume Rectory, Woodbridg«.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ko.
KnglUh Sehoot Ctatticf. Edited by Pranoia Storr, B.A.^
Arelwtunt Mftiter at Marlborough CoUege, kc. Cou^peri J
TatL By Francis Storr, B. A. Scoid Lav qf ikg Lagi I
Mimtrrf. By J. 8urteet PhiUpotta, M.A , AemsUtit
Muter in Rugby School, Itc. (RivingtoDsO
\» . , n; T , . u » may be eonpntu l«t«d on the miknn ^^ r i ti « l , u Ji
Hng for tchooU a good tnuning in Ki <
hoot Cfmtict <they will embrace, h^
e£iujiieriitcd aboto, the Statom, Bac<mt Estay*, i» <"^(*'
}(orth'* ExtstrniiH, &c.) ov^bt to find its w»y into Ktoti uul
TES AND QUERIES.
[S^S. II.Jct.t4,'7«.
I
H&rrow, and aJl our ^eat public ecbooh,, to aay nothing
of tbo collepea that are sx^iinging up €vervi*here for the
odac&tion of girls. Wc caDnot but tnink tbAt, were that
TOeuial tDiining ndopted vkich the etudy of our greateat
vritert would ussurtidly provide, iar greater and more
Ufieful reealtfi muat be attained than by dri?ing boys^
wLetbcr tliey like it or not, through a courac of cleiraiit
9cr > )it0. On alt handa it ifl uffiruied now that
to' in J? attempted ; that, after all, the ttio rough
kiL I few aubjecta ia of more avail in after-life
tb.> LterLng intelligiince which id only too often
pt neloqueucotbbtia offensive by its ignorance.
T}^ then is evidently Mr. 8 torr* 9 mm, for he
eu>. acb volume contains enough for otic term's
nviL. iL uutct} ore Burc, by their freedom from dry-
neSB, to create an intercft aod rivet attention.
The Manwxh Cln-'coru>n : a Guide fur tkn Hft^rati and
IMttnt Ctl'' fiivint Str^ej the Iloi^ Sticra"
titfftitt, atiiJ of i/u Church. Edited by the
Rev, P. G. Ltc. L'A^L., F.aA. {Hogg L Co.)
Tuts manual, abridged from the Dmctorium Anoli-
caitnni, will prove ot great teirice to those clergy, lay
feaders, and choirmastem who find the lawr work out
of th< ir reaeb. Dr. Lee is ao well known lor his great
knowledge uf tboae ancient ritual airangemcnta Vkhich
arc gradually being revived, that it would ahuost at&m
pre«urnptioii to critidxe anythirt^r thnt he may tay on the
fiubjeet ; vsc will, tbcrcfi^ "iitentcd wiih cun-
gratulating our letinied < iit> not only on tho
method «iud atyle of lii^ L.„. ,...., Lut ab*o on the very
exhaustive manner in which each acrvicc, oj to its
ritual arrjiTipemrnti?, i* treated. Rec^tir?*- nin§t be had
to the / ' ' <Ied, for
thei^in . nlficient
reason tl : ^ ,^ it in a
couveuieni purtAble IWiu, ajjd i' ^ 'ie price. We
xituBt not omit to add that the ,1 : urnisbed ^ith
an &diuira1jle glo&sary ; and it ia itoc i <o iiiucb to aay that,
without the help thus ntforded, it would bnAc bcco, to a
gi'eat extent, tinintelligiblc to tho*c not pretending to a
very deep knowledge of the fiubject.
Mai trials for tJi4 Hutory ^f ihi A thj^ian^ DonoeriKy /V*0*n
Hiii*iiv to PtricUi, Collected from Ancient Authors.
lly T. Case, M.A., Late Fellow of BragGuo«o CuUege,
Oxford. ( Parker & Co.)
Clak^ical authors may find in thi$ pamphlet m&teriat
whereon tr> fowiid mnny chnptera. The authorities cited
are in C 3 i Led to a certain period, are
very co 1 1 uf i>olcu, and thij: chang:ea
made by '.„-;,,-__ „ . ^'.^^^i, form the main ba^ia of
ficverjd injportaut t^uotatioua. V'oting ly lot 16 placed
before iW a.c, and is »bown to have trGcn generally, but
not nccedoarily^ dumocmtic. *'* Litenc Humaniores " and
•* TriptJ« " men may peroae Mr. C&m'b collection with
advantage.
Slori€* from JfrrodotuSj in Attic Ureel : 1* iitory of
Hhanipfinitus ; 2. Tli€ liattk <t/ Maruthmu Adapted
by J. t5urteen Phillpotta, M.A., Aisiatant-Master in
Biigby i^chwd, and formerly Fdlow of New College,
Ox lord. (RivingtonB.)
Aftkh aecond thoughts few critics will find fault when
thev «*© the revcr'-d Hcrodotu? turned )uu.* Atti<» Gr«?^k
M^ ^ ■■■
hi
ti>^'- --.-■- ' -- -- , - ,
very iM^id piugictis. 1«:l nut (<> lie Ui^ught it is to be
deprived of much cla»fiical grownd-work. How i» it to be
mrv- ' .... .^ -.-.■-■. . ....;. ..^^
At: CO
rtu I — ' ' ■, ' _. ■ ■■ a.
actUixig iui^tii thAU " lii^'udvlu^uiiuk 4?A*y " u wauted
—a comparative knowledge of dialects had to be gained*
The author of iiticcUoTLS /rowk Ximophoii, SrUcfioriA frmn
Arrmn,^ Notu qj^ the ** Lay of (hf Latt J h'tny
and VomfnoH^e&klth, has, in SttfHa/rom pre-
pr"''^' '""'lie schools ivith a book which mn viji.uLirago
1 :. and acholara in an arduous taak— begimuog
TJie Ilrraid and Genealooitt. Edited by John Gough
Nichola, F.S.A- Parta XLVIL, XLVIll. (Nichola k
Sont.)
Wk intend no di«re&f)ect to other labourers in that iidd
of antiquarian literature which the late Mr. John Gough
Kichvls had made »o ptcuiiarly his own wben we e;tpreia
our conviction that it has been wiaely dotermiued that
the Ucrald r ' '' '^yijti, of which he was the origi-
nator, Bhoul< > Lo a cloie now that ho by whom it
had been ao conducted htu^ gone Ut his ro^L
Not less judiciuu^ ixud becoming ia it, that the la«9t nuti^ber
of tliat journal should contain a memoir of its accom-
plitihed editor, written by a loving hand, in which are to
!>e found not only a full and det;iiled account ol the
numerous literary, historical, and ;[:cnea!f>}z:fcri! norksifor
which the World are indebtt 1 Itdgo
and untiring industry of Mr i^^t
aliufiioiis to the frieuda and t^ ... .....i ... .i, was
often cloisely associated, and many ^iimfifiea ot timt antiable
character which distinguish^'d him in all hh domfsttc
relations. Mr. Nichols' " ' ' 'sltkc
of all folae pretences, <> or
three of the shorter nui , ^t^nt
work, the last which h«:rckldic Atudtiiis aio duetuicd to
receive from the feitrleaj and independent pen of John
Gough Nichols.
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pKTVntjof ThtviiLt u&D»lat*d f r^tm U>c Gtrtu&Q of 1I«ZU7 U«la«:tj
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Hatiai to Carrr^iianlifntil.
Ovn Correspond EWT8 mil, xre u-wi, txaue ottr t^
fftsting t(^ ihem, loth for ih^r .iakes v-- - ' ■ - "nr gwn —
That thty should write dtarly <x /—and on
one aide of the paper only — mart «/; , > r names
ajTit/ wordj and phrases t>/ %ihich k ■ v if
rtffuircd. We cannot vndrrtake to j r'or-
rtipohdaxi itoit Hot tAM vorih tk^ w-/- -i^ ^v ,^ttUnff
U. £, S. K. — '' At sUea and sevens '* Ib a phrase In The
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confuiion. It wa^, bowovtir, of earlier datL-, hit iUderi*
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emccessfuL Tbo Work reouired would be done more aatit-
foctorily and economically by any respectable phfiter.
AOTICS,
Editorial Communlcationi should bo addressed to " The
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\Vt- beg leave to etate thut we decline to return com-
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To all commaniL nivme nnd
address of the eenrj ^ ^tion, but
as ft gttonuitoe of good Wkih,
I
iP> 8. II Jdlt 11, 71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
21
JtOMiMli^ SATU&UA r, JUL y 11* lis:*.
CaNTENTS,— »• 28*
irivn^ :— AtKhof Pftfiittr of Worcc-terihlM, 81— \ Picture
a*l . tl TiU«i of liouor/'
Ji) Lord CornwaliU —
Bull— V ^iLiAn^^* IrVi^yipfi - l.uiti ou a daa'i>UI, 2&-^rJi«
^ITKK I lander* or ZltijMn^ 26— Cipiy
*< . . ^ rtio Jiid^e« Oft Circull -Qati«n
At I MArkborough. 27 — '* Y«nge
MxUiUj' ' — " rb'-: Uonny HanAv of i*lrlie " — Fruncb
]llaii4>Miu-|«i—TltiUra Abtny-Mri KlUnhelb Moatigu —
Ki'liittti ^b'K.v York* — ,\ Caaterbiio' roim'liina— Henry
jAtSH* ttelUr«-^To» Htif ' Torpple/' of LnciioQ— Mr«. J. A
8«i||f«lttt— '■ Muttir'-JutiAtb^a £a«r»rai. Of Americ*^ 2&
•"REPfJES :— SpftlUojt Rrfrtrm*, '?9— Hjilpli do Ckkbham: M*ry
lie K^im. SO— Hyror) : W ychorK^f — *' '!>»« ftt %ht Hirihuiigbt
B«tt. " *[<-- . Hi — ' PrfsLi f J ihn iiiid tiic Arms of iho Sua of
Civ
Tti.
Sin
vi :
^^
J.
A
isia— " The <jiarr of their
-I bo Swift t«railj, S3—
lir hc^lool for i^CAud^l " —
• Hu'libfM '—Krglator of Jo**— Heraldic—
^ wnti (^iMwera — Ibe " JttCDbiu" — La Viho-
JoLUttio Drury C^aoc," 36— Bttd4— The
; —" M\'i" — Arltbtot'tic : U«fitlng out
i>f Wi^tnore—'* VVhek"— Prlnccji of
-ii»e l)»eof inverted CoQimas — liMC itnd
.t -T)i« [NipuUtkoD Two UuudrtKl Ymin Ago
I iMirt in *' VuiiHiia," 37—'* Ue»ler**— Ui^by,
' Wont* in 174ld— Po«U uid Prapor Namei—
lUneko JUiiera, ^ -Puot Scotut— Meraiulc—
aSolm on Booki^ ifcc
ABCHEB FAMILY OF WOECESTEaSHIRB.
My attention has latdy be^n dniwn to the
nestton of the origin of the Archer family of
'arbo4oG8 in the seventeenth century from htLring
!cn a work on thi« »urnj«ne, which, although a
;^uule to inquirers, is, nevertheleftSj em-
\ug from the recurrence of misprint or
10*1 trrora, which might have been obviated hy
sltj^htest effort in the correction of the proof
ihect*. In this work, althou<?h frequent suggea-
iom are thrown out in favour of the Worcester-
IbLfc origin of this family, it i» evident that the
or hud a preference for Suti'olk. A careful
sin of the contents, howei'er, ftnd collution
other nourcea of information, will» I think,
thai th4:^v*i were Archers in Barbadoes from
ik, and Lincoln, but tbit Edward
umI there in IH93, was none of those,
I wti* li a iliritinct and Worcestershire origin. 1
^e\) <\*^-!>rt> how little rcliAocc can be placed on
I triMp yet, to a certiiin extent, they
due m tdnefl. The descendants of
Archer svre at ill to be found, not only
€a« bat in Jamtiicar where two of hi»
' ' ' '""I, In both branches
ig the lup^e of time
^M^^MiiMiiihriiiiii
that their English progenitors were BojaliatB, and
of Uinber&lade descent ; and this, too, in CiMoe of
the facts that Sir John Archer of the Be Boys, or
E^ex, fumily was himself in Barbadoes, and tb&t
he hiid relatives in Jamaica in the seventeenth
century, and ihey still trea-sur»> an heirloom trana-
luitted from generation to generation, whicli would
deem to strengthen the fir^t part of the tradition^
viz., a locket set in gold of the period, contaiauag
a portrait of Charles 1. reading I
That the Worcestershire Archer? were Royaliati
there can be no doubt ; tlie children of Edward
A rchcr of Hanley Castle^ eldest son of John Archer,
of WelLuid, by his wife Eleanor, daughter of
Richard Frewen of Hanky Castle, were di»-
posscssed of their estate.^ by CrorawelJ. We find,
about 1652, '' William Archer and William Walter
petitioning; on behalf of the children, hiing miTwrg.
Thomas, George, and Anne, of the late Edward
Archer of Hanley Castle." There h no mention
of his elder children in this petition ; they, no
doubt, had equally incurred the Profcector'» dil-
ple^isure, ThomaA, George, and Anne, being
minora, might be presumed to be gtiiltleds of
politiciil sj^mpathies. Theae WeUand Archers
appear to have broken up entirely about lG-19,
and to have dispersed in all directions, their large
possessions pacing into the handa of their Crom-
well ite neighbours —the Lechmeres and others.
Presumably, the Frewens — maternal ancestors of
Edwiird of Hanley— were also Royalists, for we
Hud them settled in Barbadoes at tlie same period
as Edward Archer of 1GJ)3, aa well as the Thornes,
Moo res, and other familiee, with whom the Wel-
land Archers had intermarried. It is a curious
and suggestive fact that the first Barbadian an-
cestor of Edward Archer of 1693 called hh estates
"Cleobury," »*01dbury," and '^Gretton." Now,
if we refer to Dugdale's " Pedigrees of Archers of
Umberilatle/* we find that Thomas le Archer —
Edward III,— married Margarita, daughter of
Clebnrie, and Rowland Archer of Uniber-
alade quartered the arms of the Mortimer-Cleburie
family. Again, Old bury is a town in Worcester-
shire. I cannot but think Uiat a deep signihcance
lies in the Jiames chosen by thia branch of
Barbadian Archers for the litst properties held by
them in the land of their exile. They would eerve^
not only to keep alive the cherished memory of the
mother country, but act as landmarks to their
posterity, showing the liru of Umberslade from
which they derived, as in the case of Cleoburic,
and their Worcester origin from OUHtuTif. Taking
all these circumstances together, I think 1 atn
justified in my preference for a Worcester instead
of a Suffolk descent for Edwjird Archer of Bar-
badoes.
TV ' I Ht Archen mcjit* - " tV V. ridi
R. Barbadoes in i.
22
NOTES AND QUERIES.
16* 8. II. Jin.T 11, 74.
Nicholas Arclier of Huatropp, co. Lincoln, iind
of ^* foreign p**," His wiU is recordetl in London.
Sons, Richard Leon (qj. cont. Leonani), NtcholaSy
and Christ&phcr, That they were ulso Crotuwellites
and Piiritansj I think we may infer from the bap-
tismal names of their children, when we consider
the mania, at that period, for Biblical apfxjllations
among the followers of the Protector. Kathaniel,
Joseph, Joshua, and Peter, are the Christian
names we find bestowed on the offspring of these
early Archers, and they were perpetuated in their
descendants. The name of Edward appears but
once amongst them ; one Peter Archer, grandson
of Leonard, called his son by this name, but he
was born in 1703, ten years after the death of
Edivard Archer of 161>3.
It is morally impossible that the latter could be
descended from eitherof the three brothers, liirjinrd^
Leonurd^ or Nichohu, since the only uiember of
their respective families who bore the name of
Edward was born after his deniise.
At the present time, baptismal designations
kive no signitication ; it was not thus, however,
in the days of our forefathers. Let us, then, turn
from these Lincoln Archers to Edwar^i Archer, of
IG93, and his descendants. In no single instance
do we find a Seriptund name among.st them, but
in their stead wo do find the baptismal names
borne for centuries by the Umbers lade Archerv —
Thomas^ Edwixrd, Rohert^ John^ and William —
names, moreover, borne by the sons of John
Archer of Wetland, from whom I ckim descent
for Edward Archer, who died in Btubadoes in
1693, either through his eldest son, Edward, of
Hanley Castle, or through Robert, a younger son,
born 1016. We know that tlie formers eldest son,
John, was in " foreign p** " (see Nosh) ; it is
possible, nay, probable, that his other " dispos-
sessed '^ elder sons were also emignmts, Edward,
of Hanley Castle, was born June, 16tH\ Allowing
thirty years for a genenitioa, Edward Archer, of
Barbadoes, might dearly have been his son ; were
he born about 1630, he would only have been
sixty-three at the time of his death in 1693. That
some members of the Worcestershire Archers did
emigrate is an undoubted fact ; for among the
wills of Archers in *^ foreign p** '" we find those of
** John of Worcester," Humphrey Archer, &c*
The former, I presume, was the son of Edward of
Hanley. I :im more disposed, however, to think
that Edward Archer of Barbadoes wa^ the son of
the younger brother, Robert, son of John Archer of
Welland and Eleanor Frewen of Hanley.
Robert Archer w.oa baptized at Hanley, April,
1616. He married Anne Skinner of Ledbury, and
waa the father of many children. His son Robert
was " Parson of Casde- Morton " : he married,
1677, Hannah Moore, daiUghtcr of Edward Moore
of Suckloy Court. Two short tabulations will
show more clearly than I am do by words my
reason for believing that this younger Robert
a brother of Edward of Barbadoes. That Edwar
Archer's father was named Robert, I myseij
believe, though I readily admit that my reason
for this preference will not satisfy genealogists i
but, in the absence of pmof, let the following fa<
weigh for what it is worth. IHiring the hiirricanflj
of 1831, in common with many other ancien*
mansions of the old settlers (or " Planters,"
they were called), the ancestral honie of thl^
branch of the Barbadian Archere was destroyed j
beneath the foundation-stone was found, by M
Edwartl Archer (the owner), an exquisite porceku
cup, on which were the initials R. A. in gold.
is nccefi.sary to explain that Mr, Edward Arch^
waa innocent of all genealogical precise inforn
tion, and, like many othci-t?, merely relied on
fniuily tradition, without any misgiving, and,
the same time, without any interest in sue
K. C,
=iKobert Archer, aon of=ATine
(|uestions.
John Archer nud Elea-
nor Frewen, b. Ifilti.
K5kiimer.
I ia77.
The R€V. Rol>ett A r-^* Hannah, da ugh. of
c her, Parson of Caatlo I Edw, Moore ol Suck-
Mcirtoa. | ley Court.
1 (~~" i i M I r.
Timothy. Edward. jElimheth, Hannah, Oihec<
name of hU oh. an childr
brother's infant. nHniea.<j
wife. unknown
Edward Archer of— f Elisabeth,
Barbftdocfl, ob. 101(5. j
11
Robert,
dii in-
herited.
Edward=
Tbo-
Eliufc*
beth.
^Hftnnah,= — Aahtt
probably
called ai^ter
his brother 't
wife.
I
Edward.
Joan.
A PICTURE SALE IX 175S.
It may be interesting to compare with fion
recent picture sales the results of a sale by auctia
of tho collection of* Sir Luke Schanb, which tc>oJ
phice on 26th, 27th, and 28th April, 1758.
three days' side comprised 118 lot^, and the su^
realiined was 7,784/, ha. Out of the 118 lots,
recorded in the QentJnnan^ji Magazine^ vol. xxvi
p. 225, &c. (1758), I &hall select, the names of iiboa
forty works of the most celebrated masters, with t'
prices and purchtisers :—
FtrH Pa^*t Snit'
Lot 9. W. yandeTelde--A calm, U 15#. (StL
chaser, Goremor Saunders.
Lot 10, KujjH-A landscape Willi rocks, ^L Of. Pur-
chascri FitzwiUiami*
l»aiLJotTll,7t.l
NOTES AND QUERIES.
23
L«i 11. Oitade— A kndic^po and figures, 7/. 17i. C^.
i PtttctiAMr, Mr Cimptjini.
Lol 14 CK Fjor&in— A li&Tid«eBpe and flgtires, 105/.
f PttrrbMcf, DucUess of PortJand.
IM 17. J Hiifi«»i)0— A Holy F&mllj, 13/. 2t, 6dL Piir-
, 1 •■ 1 Low— Soldiers, Ac, 17/. 17i. PurchMcr,
Li i _ .. . cronese— A woiniui*B head, 12/. 12f. Pur-
f cbs^r, Mr* Vcmoii.
Lot 25. Domeoko— 8L Barb«, &$/. 16«. Furcbaser,
[ BicUiiril Grasvenor
L«i 3^, Fr. Mierii-Boy with a jug> amdl onl, e/. lOi.
[ Purcb4»«r, Mr. Stetntrd.
f L(>e Rd. P. Potter— A 1iiQd«c&pe and figurei, lU. (hM.
I FiiT<!h»«pr, Mr, Reynolds
L< ' ' * " I no — 8 1 . Catherine, 42L Purcbater,
>t .n— A ileeping Yonuf, 18/* 7*. 6</. Pur*
•r. Mi. Mufterson.
L 61 Gt»ercino~8t. Sebastian, 54L I2t. Purcbaaer,
I Cottpcr.
Lot &4. Giordano— A elecping Venu« vitb Cupids
I MtUftiling, 11/. 11*. ParcliMcr, Mr IJolditcb
I ^ Lot r<5. RubenB— A Und^cupc with Our Saviour bc&l-
I inij the lame, 79/. Ifu. Purcljoser, Duclican of Portland.
Lot 5Q. Correggir^—^igUuiunda weeping over the beart
«f Titnered, 104/. 6i. Purcba^er, Sir T. tiejibrigbt.
Second Days Sale,
Lot 8. D. Teta»que2 — An old wonum'i bcad^ 3 qrf.,
ItiL 13*. 6(/. Purcbaaer, Mr. Dulton.
I Lot 11, Holbein— A woman's bead, S qn., 2/< 2i.
I Pq rebuke r, H. Poi, E-«q.
Lot \2. M. A, CarftTa^frio — A man playing on a flute,
It 7#* Purchaser, Mrs. Child.
Jk>t 25 Albert DUrer— A cracifixion, 15/. 15j. Pur-
r Saunders,
i -A Dutch lady at ber toilet, 22/. lU U.
^^e.^ nevr, figures by CanMci, 6^. 2<.
c if Portland.
J He tiihraudt— Admiral Euyter, 16/. 5f. 6c/.
f Pureba#«r, Mr. Steward,
Lot £0. Ann. Caracci- Venus at ber toilet, 63/. Pur-
<liaaar. Lord Cowper.
Lot 51. Guido — Our Saviour asleep and the Virgin
'vwtehing OYcr bim, 32S/. VU. Purcbascr, Richard QroB*
Lot 62. P. de Cortona-^Rinaldo ftnd Armida» 2SL 2t.
I Pnrchaier, Admiral Knowles.
Ltit fiJ. VatidTke— Virgin, Jesos asleep ia her lap,
tSIl/ ' - "-r^ aser. Duchcaa of Portland.
L* ers— Boon at Cardt, 85/, If, PurcbsAer,
|lii>r.i !i.
Third Dayt Sale,
Lot 4. Sir P. Ldy— Due head of Port«moatb, 3 qra.,
1-4/. 7*. H/i. Ptifcbiser^ Richard GrosTenor
] Lot UK Watteau- A landscape fluid figures, 9/. 9i,
pParcba«er, GoTem or Saunders.
Lot 11. .Tordaens— Man piping, children about bim,
\ 5f Pufcl^Mcr* Lord Byron.
vl ' '' ul—J(ympbs bathing, 4/. 4i. Porchaser,
■Lifl,
lisaln— A landscape and fignrcij 67/. ISt.
[tclia^r, ^ Rust. Esq.
tS. K. PouBsin—tts companion, 23/, 2^ Pui^
' ' ■ n*on,
overmans— A TiUage camiTa), SI/, lOs,
ei , niiergutcb.
4^5. L* Ufun— Departure of Rinaldo fhrtii Armida^
. lOj. Piscbaseri Lord Anion.
Lot 44. Rigaud— Cardinal Dubois, balf-le>b, 33/, I2#.
Purchaser, Mr. Tbompson,
Lot 40, MurUlo— Beggars, 32/, 11#. PorcbaMr, Richard
Grtisvenor,
Lot 52. Carlo Maratti— A Holy Family, 33/, 1*, U,
Purchaser, Vaodergutch.
Lot 60. Raphael— A Inrge and capital picture of a
Holy Family, 703/, 10*. Purchaser, Ducheaa of Porthind.
The krpeat purchasers at the sale were (1) the
Durhes.^ of Portliinrl, who secured fourteen pictiiTOi,
119 folio WB :— CL Lorain, 105/. ; Rembrandt, 32/. 1 U.;
BamboGcio, 21/. ; ElshcimeT, 171. lis. ; Guido,
157f, 10^. i Kul^ens, 79/. 16«,; Vandyke, 126/.;
P, Brill, 65/. 2.<f. ; Yaindyke, 21 U. 1*,; View of
Antwerp by P. Brill, Rubens, GillisT and Brueghel,
551/, 5*. ; Titian, 43i, 1*.; Eli/,. Siratii, 23/, 2*, ;
Tintoret, 66/, 3s. \ Raphael, 703/. 10*. — Total,
2,202f. l&r. (2) Richard (first Eiu-l) Gro^jvenor,
Beventeen pictures, ^c: — Oescentia, 1(»/, lOi, ;
Domenico, 58/, 16*.; Jordaens, 16/. 5j. 6<i, ;
F, Laura, 36?. 15*,; nn antique bronze, 42/.;
Guido, 328/. 13*.; Sir P. Ltdy, 4L 7$. firf.;
P, Veronese, 79/. 16«. ; Holltein, 3/. 3*,; Do.,
3/. 13^, Gd. ; Polydore, 36/. 15*, ; Rubens, 25/. 4<. ;
Borgo^rnone, 23/, 2*.; F, Bassano, 115/, 10*.;
Murillo, 32/, lU. ; Tenier^, 157/, IOj. ; Le Bnin,
127/,— Total, 1,101/, 11^. 6d (3) Sir J, Seabrigbt,
A, Corre^gio, 404/, r»#. .(4) Governor Saunders,
fourteen picture* : — Antolinl, 7/. 15^. ; Vandevelde,
5/. 15«, 6t/, ; Badddocio, 15/, 15*.; Gentilesehi,
44/. 2.1. : Albert Durer, 15/ 15*.; A. Kuyp,
26/. 15«. 6rf, ; HubcDR, 28/. 17s, Qd. ; Bo., 15^ 15*.;
Gofredy, 6/. 6s.; Wutteau, 8/. 18s, (3^ ; I>0.,
9/. 9*,; Sal. Ros,i, 7/, 7#,; Do., 4/. 4s,; Rotteu-
hamer, 16/, 5s. 6d.— Total, 213/. Os. 6</.
S. H. Harlowe,
St. John's Wocd.
"BEITLSH AND CONTINEXTAL TITLES OF
HONOR," BY A TRAVELLER, 1842.
This interesting work was written to show the
real value of foreign titles of nobility (some of
wbicb were purchasable at the moderate figure of
30/, [), and to di&abuse tbe minds of the ordinary
class of travelling Britona of the idea that Con-
tinental Counts and Barons are on a par irith our
Earls and Barons, and therefore superior to BaroneU
and tbe nobiles minora of Great Britain, the fact
being tbat tbe majority of these titled gentlemen
can scarcely be considered equal in rank to our
Esquires, The following conclusions, drawn by
tbe author from his arguments and faotc^ are
wortby of a place in tbe Peerages, Baronetages,
and other works of a similar character: —
*' 1. That, notwithstanding the pofialar distinction
between Ni»bility and Gentry, no one who goes abroad
and *eho rtalU belong* to thi nobiUt minoru of Elngland,
should deny thit be is Noble,
** II, That it ii a Tulgar error* to suppose that a
Commoaer may not ba Noble.
* ConclujiTely proTed by tbe fact tbat all Uie sons of
Peers (iu their ktberf' Ufetime), thou^b by courteqr
24
NOTES AND QUEEIE8.
[6^8, n ,JITiTn|7i;
** in, Tliftt the three ftr«t title* of the Ppcrftpe being
Princely ilignitie* and the two |ft*t of hijfb NobiHty. no
Engltehm&n should on the Continent ftddren a Prer ba
M. L© Coint©, or M. Le B&ron; for these are, there*
titles nf low Nobtlily.
'♦IV, That, in order to diacorer whether a foret^
Nobleman mny runk with our Prers, we should jfinti out
whether he \t the chuf of kin fomtitf ; utid whether hii
anc'cttori had a rittht of fi$T€dilury evi&t in the Diet of his
country ; or whether he ri.ay be, in any other wny, moked
am^^nitet tte hi^h Nubility.
*• V, That there ia a marked dtffcrence between the
Britiah Jcreer Nobility {or Gentry) an-l that of Germany,
Tia., tbut the Britiah le«.*^er Nobility hftvc been from time
Imiuemoriat called iVc^MYit in LmIiu; tb^t they hnte
alwaji bad lb ri|$bt to nh and be reprenented in Parlia-
ij>ent ; and that they miyht intonuarry with the hj«h
Nobility^ iind oven with the blo^d Royal; wh^reii« the
teiser Nobility of the Etnpiro were n^-t called yuhtlt*
before the fi^iurteenth century- nor cou'd they sit or be
represented in the Diet, imr could they marry i\itb the
high Nobility, nor the b!o<»d Kmal of their country,
*'VL That the only Couiit^ who coutd formerly be
nunked with nur Prerugo were the Counts of the
Empire, icilh right of teat ; and these ure now ulniost all
titulux Prtnceii. Atio that the only Continental Bi^rin
who could rank with a British Bartm i^as tbe old tierman
Dynasty Baron, who hm long ceawd to exii^t*
** Vlf, That a Bntiah Baronet haa^ at leaftt, a ripht to
rank wiih a titular Count, or Grave, of Germciny, «*«
may bt chief of kit family ^i and above all those whw may
sot be so.
•• VIIL That a British Esqnire who ia chiefof afumily,
the head of which fonnerly held a Manor immedi<it4;ty,
without bcim; a Peer of Purlinment, may rank with en
immediate Bttron of the Ettipirc, f^ho is head of hu
Bouse, and whose unccstor bad no right to a »eat in the
Diet of hie country.
''^ IX, That a British Esoutro, who it rcprraentJttlTe af
a family which fomtrly htid a Kilght'a-fee imini diately,
may rank with mi immediate Kiiight of the Empire,
who may be alio chief of his family.
" X. That Barons by puteut mast rank with our
Esquires bv patent.
" That the ' EdUnton * must rank with our^ntlemen
bearing arms.
*• XL That the common 'von' (deHyed from official
situation), or ' dt,' must t© conndend to give Nobiliiy
equiraleut to Ibatof those persons in En>zla^d who ar*c
Eii(]U]reB, or Gentlemen, by prfifc«9ion»uffic4\4c., aUbouj^h
9ome of ihem may hare precedence of Getitlemen of
Lord Wkllssi^ey and Lord Cornwallts. —
In the rec^ntly-ptublisbed correspondeDco of Lord
Ellenborongh (p. 172), th^re in a iiienioTandura by
Lord Welledey containin|j an extmordinaiy mift*
stvtement about Lord CorDwaLlis.
Lord Wellealey 8»tb that, in 1797, Lord Com-
wnllis was a poor old maiij with one foot in the
grave. So far ia this from the truth, that, at the
time la question. Lord Cornwania bad just been
appointed both Lord- Lie ut<?Dant and Commander
matiy of them are Lords, m well as the Baronete, are
commontTi, i.*.. only entithd to sit or be represented in
the House of Commomf,
t *• Younger sons i»f Foroipn NobllitT mntt tank with
younger sons of Euglish Nobility of equal grade."
of the Forces in Ireland ; nnd it was suh$tqumil%
that ho was uppointedf for the second tmiepl
GoverDor-Generul of India (which did not ti»k«
eflect)) andf afterwards^ to an important niilitaryl
command \ and, several ytan later, be wns^ for tbfl
third time, named^with general approval, Goremor-iJ
General, and actually succeeded Loxd Welle&ley
himself.
It is true thatf on this lae^t occasion, hiR motiTca
were partljof a somewhat trivial personal kind, and
he )ca.i then physicaJJy unfit, but his mind waa a»1
vigorous lis ever.
All this may be seen in the excellent Mtmo
of Lord Comw(dli$^ by Mr. Charles Rosa,
'Ihe truth of the matter is in the opi>osite direc
tion. The memorandum was written in JulyJ
1842, and Lord Wcllchley died in the following
September. It has but slight traces of the .creafe
ability which the writer had as a yoimger nian^l
imd I happen to have bad some perftf>nal Inter
course with him some time previrius, from which i^l
was clear that he was not what be had been. His]
second nppointmentf feTeral ye^irs before, to th
Irish Lord -Lieu tenancy rather surprised the world, i
I have no doubt ho either mis-stated the dut^|
or bad but imperfect recollection of what ha"
happened forty-fiye years before. LTTTXLToy.
PoKGATTON BY FiRE.— It may not be «o well
known to the Etiglisb as to the clasmcal reader J
that the ordeal so commonly resorted tobyaccu*
persona in the Middle AgcK, in attestation of tbeis
innocence, had neither its rise in, nor waa eflpecialJl
characteristic of, those times. It wa« known nnd
in use centuries before. And thus the 8chob««tl
upon Sophocles, in tlie Jn^i^Tic^from which (I
uke the subjoined ilkimtration — says: "Kibil in
historia notius, quum purgationes, quibuB, adhibito
SAcrsimento, rei objecta crimina amoliebuntur,
irmocentium comprobabant/* '* No fact of history ia
better known or authenticated thun Unit of pvrga'}
Hony by which^ under solemn appeal to hej^ven^j
accused persons were accustomed to rebut tha
charges brought against them, and to as&ert their
innocence of them." Thus in this play (v4nhywe)|
the messenger eent to announce loCreon that ►ome
one had sprinkled dust over the corpse of Poly-
nioes, offers, on the p«irt of himself and fellow*!
wiitchers, to undergo this ordeal ns a test of iheiC
inncHsence and igoornnce of the deed :—
Hal TTVp ^te/JTTftV, Hal 6'cov9 OpKMfAoTtiVf
To /ai}t€ Spdirai^ fiyJT€ Tf^» ^rj'cifct'cu
TO Tpdyaa Bovktvo'avTu tt^nr ci/jyao-iif im
' U264W.
"The msii of bnming imii In nur haniU
We all »* ere i rompt to t»*ke, ro y aiis ibrou^h CfC»
Tm ra'l tlie gods t*ii wtineAs ^ith firm onth
We did it nftt, we knew not who dt si^ti'd.
Or who perform'd the deed.**— i^etter.
iPF. It. J TOT 11, 74]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
25
TIlS sdioliast seems to think thnt this mnjhe^
, ji^fhiip, th- earliest intimutiun of triiil by orde^U
that i«c hivve on record, Tlu^y abouistl id wtiat
I u« caliad ** the Daxk Ages.''
Edmusd Tew^ M.A,
Faratxel Passages. —
** 1 liii i» tlie jro'den chtin of Jove, whereby the whole
~~~ia* 11 •# lioijid to the thtotifi of the Cre tor/'^Arch*
on ili»f^*« tertnon on The Lam uf ^S^lf^Sucrijiee,
^ An4 f» the whole romid w orJtl is eTerj wav
BiMjcU l>j gula cbAiuis al»<iut iho f.et .if O.-d,"
Ttntjjftou'i jl/trt r* W Arthur,
''IfvtlHnlai ii ii heiter that I •honid hnTt nined nwny
'' ' "V goldene*it years, **h«n 1 hm ihmll fo the
irii fui er CYfs, of Alice W-^^u^ than thMso
'ft iMV-e-ft venture Bhould be loat;"— Eiin's
. kiMj ii*u iVtw Vfar'i Hvt,
** Tin belter to hftTe foTed a»»d lost
Thim never to havf lov« d Mt lilL"
Ttfiifi;soi/t In, Memoriam,
■ T* •- ^ -* to lore wisely, r«rt doubt; but to love
I fottt r th»n Dot to' be able to lore at aU/' —
1 1 1»»'- itJei^nis, chap. vi. vol, i.
" A» ti»« trombJer satd of big d ce» to love and win it
Ithe 1ie»i (b'tii|(> to lore and lose u the next bcat.'^-^/'^w-
dbaaiiy chap, u vot. ii*
" The Tairu* here.
So broad and clear,
Blue» in the clenr tklue nooa —
And it lies liKb%
All iilvi r white,
TJf>der the tilTcr moon I "
^B4>l>ert SoutUey, quoted in C^tU's Remini*
** Sllrer nili all ont of the west
UAdet the siWer moon."
Song in Tennyson '■ PrUctu,
^y<i»btrg ran be more unlike than the ■impHcitT nf
^*^e and the r}chi<eft of Ji bnt-on. *l heir ntv I* b diflV r
nil cloth and l>rocade/*^Bu8v>eU'ii JL'/« oj Jukn^vtij
*, toL i., Midone't edition. Ib24.
' They [Milt' n> pr fc writini^i] wre a fverfrct field of
Iclotb t f gold. The it; le itfttiff with ^rgevus etabroidtry,"
OtaiTfoir.
p f T(» the T«t parallel laar be ad.led the folToiwiflgf :—
'^ *^it wbii h Prior could afford he kiie«v^
but be nsnled the i ullioii tf But >r,
>it a negli^nt pr>lcLBion, ci^rtaiii ot the
^ri^klf b«»& 4.af<teat of the stamp.'— yuA4«#0A.j
T«" ^ - -c-r Irish Bull,— In the following
i>t» leaiderin the Daily News of a, recent
■' ? two of the Ltt^t Iriub bulls,
> Iws distirjoubhed a pemonrtLge
^.: — ^..w .ja ex-Lo^i Mayor of Bublm to
I:—
1 two
ur fif
»f|i|iii.n 1 tir ' Mh, w ia> uaa he. n i Jn-zl iKa^M^rfate of
l#ahlifL The stitiK of the cai togn^ miut bare gotte deep
ind*fd, for Sir WTli'am d''f3}^Tfd in court that he nevvr
gi»frfrrd ' more lotf^i^ f ain of mind' than the caricntnrea
CNUsedbim; ani ii« dcfinfng tl c ntluUte fcverfty ol the
} iciur^s be complntiicd that 'one imA ert^i^ badf anil
the other *quaUg worxc ^ **
Glasgow.
A Strang B Epttafh : —
** The following cun« ti« interipiffm is ern a fdmbitniie
m Bidtford chmtshyur J. ro the memory of Cap tafn Beitij
Cljtrk, of ihat tiMn, who appe rs to hare yit^ded i40
much to a thusty na'ure, and died in 1886:—
''Oar worthy fr»end who hew beoeatfa thiftfitooe
Was maattfr *>( » ve»sel all his f>WfU
Bouse Nnd l«i»ds hfd be. and gold in stare ;.
Ue «pent the whD!e, nnd would if ten timet mm^
For twtfuty ye*<rB he 6C»irQe «lept In a bed ;
Linbayn iml limekilna tuiPd hie weary bead
H' c uie be would n*d to the poordKmse go.
For hlA proud cpcrit would tioi let hlui to.
The b'ackbir I'fl wht-tling notes, at break of day,
Ured to awfike him from his bed of bay«
Uj»to the bridu'e and quay he then repaired
To gee what shipping up tbe rher sleer'd*
Oft in (he week he n»ed to xicw the hay
To Bce what «bip« were comintr in frotn sea*
To f^nptrdnt' wives be brooght tbe weldooi* nmwWf
And ti tbe reiutives of :dl the orewa.
At Tust -pvtnr Qa'nr CI vrk was tnken ill»
And carHrd to tbe WMrkhouse 'gaiwt bu iriU f
But being of this mortal life aaice tired.
Me lived about a month athd then expired**'
As tbe aboTe is from a paper edit^ by the B^v.
Williiim rirwkell, MA,, there can be no doubt. .t«
to itfi genuioeDesa. IT,
Lines ok a Sdk-dtal.— Thie fblldwingii i
one, on a white timrble cross, in Colleton Chtnolt^
Devon : —
** If on th^i dial fUl a rhada the time roddem ;
Pur, hi ! it piMiMrtb like a dream*
F^r if it all < e blank, then iitonmihT lost
Of houri uable?Sid by f badowa ftom tbe cross^^'
Jony BtJNYAN'R PARBNTAaE,— A* Iwna (by the
courtesy of tbe vicjir of the parudi) inspecting the
reifistera of Wootton parish, on. Bedford^hir*^. I
came across the following entries which evidently
allude to some of John Bunyan'a aDCCstom; as
Wootton is not ro very far from ELtaWf — obon^
fire miles,— and they may, pcrhafia, aTcatoaUy^
Icid (0 the discovery of who were hi« parentis
they »<lso do away with the supposition of thoM
who think that John Buoy an may have hud gipsy
blood in his veins : see TAa ^fero c/ ElsloWf by
*M.'ime« Copner, M.A./' " Hodder & Stoughion^
MDcoct^xxiv,/' p. 20:—
*' Tbe Beg i^or for Cliristenin^ h borfallt k weddingaa
made bf Richar 1 li»*ver<>ck Vicare of Wottoo from the
ft iBt of 8t. >llcbael m the 3 ear of Oar Lord ISSl aa
following : —
Oc^iher Inipntnis xx*^ dale waa Chriitcned WUlai.
Bunnioti
>o»©mb«r 15$5 the ix** aie was baptiwd EeiN^ai
Bunion (tie J
NOTES AND QUER
trie's. I LJcLiii;
1583 xtUj"" dftie of August waa baptized Kicliard
Bunnion
1689 Ocf^ xtiiij'*' daie waa inaried Ekhjird Otiion
(qy. Bunion) At Margaret Jepfon _
1591 August xTig'** dale was bAptued William Burjion
ibe younger
December 151^3 tbe xrj''' dale was baptised Thomas
Bunnion
23 Maij 1604 . . . Bunuion ibe soniie of Tbom&B
buTinion wm buried
21 Mag 1604 . . , Bunnion the wife of Thomaa
Buntiliiti wM burkd
26 Maij 1G04 » . . Bunnion tbe Bonu^ of Tliomaa
Bunritim wan buried
15 October 1604 WiUm. Bmmiou k Elisabetb Wright
wore married
14 October 1621 Alice y* dAUgbter of Richard Bunoion
wa^ bjiptlxed
9 Fi-b ru II rjr 1023-4 Henry y* aonne of Richard Bunnion
(br Dinah Vavan) was baptized ( *ic)
17 October 1G25 Wjrdow Bunniou was buried
September 17 1636 Dina the wife of Eicbard Bunnion
WM buried
6 September ]S33 Eicbard Bunnion k Alice Draae
WPre marie d
9 January 1644 G Richard Bunnion k Clixabeth
Nichols were maried/* DuDLEY CaRY Elwes.
Tub 0*Mulconry. — How few recognitiona Ibei-e
will be in tbe Swcdenborf^ian Hiwies by supposed
ftncestora of their supposed descendants I It ijs a
jiiomnful reflection that so jnuch ingenuity should
fail. The writer of a recent article in one of tbe
newspapers* starts with the following observation,
■whicb I quote chiefly for the reason limt it ixlfordti
another example of the erroneous use of **ut"
for ''of':-
*' There ift no necesalty to aek * Garter Principal King-
cif-Arms ' or 'Ulster* what is the sii^iJiciitioti of the
dignily about to bo conferred upon Prince Arthur,"
But the aume writer (relying, perhaps, on Wuller s
definition of poetrj% when exinining himself to the
merry inonaTch for a Imd laureate ode, or jierhiips
being one of those who revere '^ chiiiuj* '' to descent
from the Counts of Percbcj the Earls of Che5t«r»
or the patriarcbiil Tbonuia de Brotherton, and blest
with lliat lurgti faith which is redly so great a
coiviforfc to many minds) thus continues : —
'' There is a Baronet livioK in Wales at present — Sir
John Conroy — whoso lineal arjcestord used to nominate
the Kings of Conimuffbt. The Conroys are tbe same as
the Couftires^ and tbe Conaires were culled in the eleventh
' century the O'Maolconmres, which Engliahmen corrupted
' ftkto the O'Mukoniies ; and this same huuse^ which has
[ noiv diifted clean out of Ireland— woe paramount in thht
province of Connaugbt of which Prince Arthur is to be
buke,**
On tumint^ to Burke's Peerage and Baronetage ^
J find no re*il reference to any authentic proofs of
a linejil tiescent. The warranty by Thomas Preston
of forty-three descents ia worth nothing. Charles
Corny, b. 1657, seems to be the earlieat reliable
ancestor, t Again : —
* Dai Iff Telegraph, Msy 27* 1874.
rather, bowercr, rely on J(
I tbe founder of the family.
f 1 rather, bowercr, rely on John Conroy» bom in
1701, as '^^' '' - •■ *"
"Tliuf, if we went by ancient heraldic tradition^
would almost ^eem that bis Royal Highness tbe Pri^
ought to be making matten straight with tbe O'JdalcoiJ
otherwise Conroy."
The value of such old chronicles in proving on
ancestry would not be c^tiniated by Mb, Plj
KERTON, Anglo- Scot us, Hermeintrldk, or Tn
Aik-, as they would bo by the O'Maolconuii
themsel veis. *^ Ulster "of coun^e does not voucIj {
the triiBtwortliiness of the old chronicle ; he mer
refers to it. The liimily itself very probably ri^'hi
estimates the would-be greatDe«a thrust upon it *
indiscreet admirers. Again : —
" But, iu good truth, a live Duke is better than a (
Milesian Goiiaire, even though he were one of the ** 1
Hofitiges/' and Monarch of Ire hind 400 a.d.
As for ** Niallus Magnus " (a.d. 4fX)), I leare
to Mr. PlNKERTON.
My object In drawing attention to tbe article i
question is to suggest the advisability of separati^
general introductory remarks on a Bumame,
family, from the special pedigree that follows,
nine cases out of ten, these Celtio and Kor:
pedigrees that thunder in the index are genera!
found to be trustworthy only from some sUrtin
point in the seventeenth century, when Bo-and-a
grand-son, or great-grandson, b bupposed to turn J
as So-aod-fto " [jricked high sberitf," or " fined T
aHerman," who leaves a will from which dates I
true foundation of the faintly. J S.^
A Conjecture. — In Cic., Ep. ad AU. iv.
we read ** Sed nihil tani pusilhim, nihil ta
sine voce, nihil tarn verum. Httc tu tecum habet^
Ernesti coiifeases that he cannot reconcile *' t4l
verum" with the rest> It might, perhapss
altered tliiis :— ** Seti nihil tam puaillum, nil
tam sine voce, nibil tain Yerum bite tu teen
babeto." S. T. P.I
[We must request correspondents desiriDg^ in format]
on family matters of only private interest, to affix thd
names and addresiei to their queries, in order '
an&weris may be addressed to them dhrect.]
Family OF Alexander, or Zinzan»— Conne
with the Court of James I., as Et^ueries and Maj^le
of Revely, were members of tbe family of Alexand^
or Zinmn. Of this family I am desirous to obt
some information. The first person helongji
the family whose name occurs in the Public .
is Robert Alexander, who waa "E^juery
Stable" to Queen Elizabeth, This person, in 15l3
was employed by the Queen to convey to ** T
King of Scotts " certain hordes which she sent hO
X Gambetta, in his recent funeral oration (f^e Z)ti|
T*U(pap?t, May 27), se tens to Lave over- rated the i '
cestry of his friend the Count
6»8.1LJotTn,7A]
NOTES AND QUEIUES.
27
as II gift. In April, 1594, Robert Alexander
aod another equeiy named Ilicbartl Monpeasoiif*
received » royal licenco gmntinfj them and their
reprt'«ientaTives the aole right of importing *' annis
Hods and Fumacke " for the spnee of twenty years,
Atnong the knights dubbed by James I. at White-
bitll on the 23rd J illy, lfj03, wiis Robert Ale xunder
Jt^^.^h*.! ji* **of Herts." Sir Robert seems to
\vi 1 G07t for his son, described a-s ** Ilcnry
55i(i Alexander/' then received the oflice
.of ry'* in succession to his father, de-
Bcr, Sir Robert Zinseun, or Alexanders-
Henry tvtiviaed Ids office at leiist tOl 1638, for, on
t^e l«t Muy of that year^ there ia an indenture be-
en hini and Joseph Zinsm, aliat Alexander,
ibeii as ** one of hi« sons/'
Sir Sigismund and Henry Alexander, aliaA
SSiiuxin* ai'e mentioned by Lsidy Anne Clifforfi as
roTal eqneries in her description of certain fetes
which took place in preeencc of Jumes L at
Omfkon^ the seat of her father, George, Earl of
Cumbcrhind, in June^ 1603. From 16U8 till 1624,
th© brothers Alexander^ or Zinzan, received 100/.
j»er annum **towurdH their charges for running at
tylte." The ** tyke " was run on the 24th March
annually. In 1614, Sir Sigismund and Henry
Alexander receired a special ^rant of 1,(K)0?,
Vnriou8 other boons were from time to time oon-
fenvd upon iheni.
Other members of the family of Zinzan, or Alex-
l ander, are mentioned in connexion with the Court
f of King James, Alexi^nder and Andrew ZLnKan, or
Alf tender, are, in May, 1607, named as "onlinary
• »f His Majesty 8 stable ; the former died in
iif-n John Pritchard i^ named a^^ his j»uc-
-r. Andrew Zinzan is, in April, 16<J7, described
* of the town of St. AlbiiD and county of Hert-
llbrd/ M -^irvl in 1624, when he was succeeded
I by Zinzan, alias Alexander."
1.,^,. . xi i further reference to members of the
faonAc till the 2Sth Auguft, 17tl4, when there is
an inJfnture of thb dat^, relating to certain
. between ** Peter Zinzjin, alujut jUexander,
i»^% Berkshire, brother and heir of Henry
Airjtander, alias Zinziin, late of Tylehurst, and
Xicbnhu Zinzan, alias Alexander, of London,
Clerk."" I am desirous of ft.*certaining whether
, Zin£«n h ki\\{ known as a family name, and also
lof - origin. It firi^t appears as an alias
Jtoil r Alexander in 16t)3,and it iscujious
1 r the royal cqueries who
'\9, Rtyled by tumiJ " Alex-
ia a««tT. "r /*rii/-iii liwi *'Zinziin, or Alexander.'*
I., it hi weU known, was in the liabit of do-
ing hia favourites by pet names ; but how
nme of Zinzan should huve been given as an
nntive to eaeh ei^uery bearing the family
ue of Alexander 19 pu^zlio^
COARLBS BOOBBS.
QrmmpUn todlgc', Foreit Htll, BS.
Gipsy Names. — I should be glad if some one,
who bus :vcce«s to them, would examine the oh J
rej^isters of Norwood, Epping, Ixiugbton, and Yet-
holm. A ffreat deal of information, with rei:;ard to
the history of the gipsies, am be gathered from
their Cliristian name«. I have made ;i collection
of about ft hundred such, many of which are not a
little curious. For instance, C4in any of vour
readers explain the existence of the name GilJcroy
in a family of gipsies travelling in Oxfordfihire j
Was the hero of the ballad a gipey I
J should aLso be much obliged to any ono who
could tell me where an account of the case of
Elizabeth Canning, mentioned in the works of
Bright and Borrow, is to be found. According to
the hitter, it occurred in the reign of George 11.
Fkancis H. Groome.
[The moit completi^ account of Elizabeth CAnnfnfr*
and the most thorough sifting of her fttory, mwy be
found ia one of tha most remHrkable of modern books.
Pariulox€i and rnzifei, Jlitloricatt Judiciat,anU Lit€rar^,
by John Pftgot, Burriftter-at-Law. Blackwood k Sons,
1874,
CnniSTY Collections. — In the Christy Col-
lections there are two patens, one inscribed
** Feliciter lo(|uere *' ; the other has this legend : —
-f PDJCRESCONLCLAUEKT.
What does this mean ? They were found with
chalices and liturgical spoons and seals, on St.
Louis' Hill, Carthage. Macksh2IC Walcott.
The Judges ox Circuit, — Her Majefity^s
Judge.% when on circuit, never interchange
hospitaJity with the Sheriti* of any £ngli)<h county
except Yorkshire. In the Welsh counties this
curious custom does not obtain ; the SheritT of
each county is always invited by the Judge to
dine with him. Can any of your correspondent*
throw any light upon the origin of these different
customs in the two divi.Hions of the country ?
It has been suggested that the custom in the
English counties was the result of the large
judicial powers of the Sheriff in early times. The
Judges had to control these judicial fimctions,
which were often harshly and improperly dis-
charj^ed, and it became necessary, it is said, tliab
they should avoid friendly social relations with
officials whom they were nent, often by spe4;iat
commission, to restrain. But if this is the rctd
explanation, why was Yorkshire made an excep-
tion I Arthur Williams.
3, Utrcoart Buildingi, Temple,
QCEKK AyjiK AND TTIB DtJCHESS OP MaRL*
BOROUOH.— Earl Stanhope says (Rti^fn of Qft$mi
Anru, ch. xi.) I hat the Duchess of Marlborough
serif fli»* V»tieen, together with a U^r^r ],ttof^
stn cts transcribed from the ' ^tt
of ^ I iilso the injunction from i >/
Common Fraytr bidding us be in charity with all
^ES AND QUERIES.
men buforo the Uoly Cotninunioo is received.
Misb Btricklttod {Life of (^hteta Anne) hfiviD^^
described tbe letter (ihe same, I suppose), adds —
"She Ukewlfte obliged iUt! Quecu vritli a Prayer^bnok '
interlinod, and a cnj.y of Jcien y Tnvlor's //*i/_v ('^viH>f
and Dyiu;/, wiih tlie Itr»vea *»iarVeti mid turned dowfii of
the p«Mf«:ij|te!i by uLicki her Maji!gtvV &oul vtas lo |irutiL
before purtakin^ of the aucred rttc.^*
Which la the authentic accouQt, or ore the^ botk.
fcmol >:.
" Yangtc MoitBATr.^'"In the old pnriah registers
of Sbifford, Essex^ h the foUowing cnilry: — *' Mut-
gufeLt Uiininion iwas baptized oae YaD^e Monduy,
1686/' What day ia signiiied / A. H. B. '
BreiiiwoocJ.
"The BaiiNT HauSE of AmT.iE.'* — May I, for
Uie sake of obUiDiDg mforiniitioo, refer to » note
on the abore «tibj©ct which appeared in ** N. & Q./^
3^S»'Ti. 383? An extract is there ^nven from h
Bpeoob of the Diikeof Argyll; of which one piiSfuige
runs aa follows : —
" I h«Te dltcorered within the Tut few dnyf, by in<»re
accident, that Ihb celebrated mid ' (viz. thut in ^vhich
th0houte of ATrlie was deitroyedj, ** whch formed one
of tliegrtvo acotuatioMH J^gnin^t the Mai quia of Ari^vll.,
and I betiero furmtd part uf tlse ucctiiiatior^ mi whUli be
lo«t his bead, woa a laid tictivcly «up^ortf:d by ilit; grettt
MjhrqyJA of MeattY>M9."
Tiie correspondent who sends tbe extract justly
callfl thiB *' an important bint on u point of his-
tory/* To nie it wppetirs a most Bturtlifij; liint^
and most difiicult to reconcile with nil that is
known of the bitter enmity between Montrose and
Argyll, and tho devotion of the O^jtilvie family to
tbe groat Marquis. I Tentnre, therefore, to retuH
aUention bj the passage, and hhW whether uny one
caniBUpply proofs and eKplanatiuns of Montrose's
.aliWDMin tbe matter^ or throw any iight on the
miilery, M. L.
Fkkhgh DiCTJONARiRa, — What is the beet
Frenob Dietionary to use in the pern.'*al of the
Etrly French writeni, cfipeckUy Monrni^jne, Rjibe-
Ui»,&c.? A* W. BhYTU.
TiTfTFRN Abhrt.— Would Mr. Mackenzie
Walcott, Mh. Fowler, or any of your other
kamed correapondent% kindly infonii' me where
I can find the be»t and fullest account of Tin tern
Abbey ? Are tliere any good and trustworthy
local gulde-bookfll A Foreigner. '
Mrs. Eltzabrth Mohtagu. — I have of this
bidy a<anioo portrait, or portruit in relief, in a
locket. It h not from the Zinck miniature, a
ftiaaU engraviog of which I have, but it U a pmfiU
portrait, tjiken at a nuich Liler dale in her life,
«bawiug a very good profile and ciu-, tlie hair beintj
roUod bacli from tho forehead. CLin any one tell
hms ftflythin^' about it ? H. F.
KiRKfiTALL Abrrt, Yokks.— Gilbert d©
was thiHeenih AUhot, circ-ii 1350 1401)— i
BriLy vol vi I tiliall be glad of infiumHtil^
hitive to the place of his hirtli, pArenta*.^c, &c.
he of the famiiv of Cotele, of Camertoo, Sotn
or Cotele, of Wilta ? W. H. Oottb
Brixton, 8.W.
A Cahtbrburt FouiTDLiKa. — Among
Inoe di,^played this year at the International '
placed the waxen figure of a baby, with ^
notice attached : —
■* This i« < he tttodel of an Infant left on a d<>of)
Canterbury 60 or 70 years Mgi^ dre-)He>l iMei.bfH
robe!*. Willi armft, an'l tlntfiaioe worked into lbe|
Don San ittg* de Tahayut Ta^juno/'
The child was never claimed. He wm ^
posed to have been the last scion of a
" Portutjueae family/' Can any one say wl]
this story is authentic, and give further p:irtica
Priji
Henrv James Bellars, one of the ele?
fivc-sirai lists of njodern tiiij£»s, did much wurl
for the lute Mr, John Ciimden Hotten an<l nt.hi«
book Hellers, He wrote and illuistratcd a ptmptile
on Conthology, &c. When and where was be l»orn
where did he live in Loridon, when did he dw
Any hio-bibliognipbieal facts concerning bim^
desirous of acquiring, also the exiict title
above-mentioned work on Concholo5[y,
H. S,
The Brig ** Temple,*' or London.— Can
correspondent direct rue how to obtain in format roi
r©«>}>ecting the loss of this vessel (so report)
Lloyda on June 30th, 18250? Althou-fc
** Teuiple ^' Wiis lost on a coral reef, the cre«
passeni^ers did not per'wh as suppogcd, for I wn
one of the latter, and, although only about iiv
years of iige at the time, not only have I a distinc
recollection of the mtiuitrophe, but 1 even remeuibj
the flowers that grew on the then desert iHln "^
Little Caynmn, whence we made our way/
boat, lo Great Cayman, where we lived
month, until rescued by the ** Thetijs/* of Lotidui
The loj( of the latter ship may be in eKistenc
if so, it would show that we had a nairow i
from capture by pirates, off Cuba, iuuu&f^
after our rescue, in consequence of tbe " T'
ninninij on a ^-andlnank^ and only beinj^ sutHc
lightened in time to get off the bank juiit a^ tlii^
piratical boats were close upi>n h*;rr. I am niid<
the impression that there is no detailed account <
the above circumstanceB at Lloyd's, but po^ibt
there may be in sotne contemporary aewepap^
(April to August, IttSB). b?-„
Mrs, Jakb Alice Sargent.— She U aut
the following works : SfntntU and other
1&17, Hackney ; HiunHUtjd Ahhtu, or the $Str
Gram {a tale); i/t/4 of ArckbuliQp (Jnmmtr^ \
Jalfl^
inatToi
rttf^
r I wii
out iiv
distiiiG
rnenibi
diidB
d for^
Lotidui
>DC^^^
w ^^^1
itHcfflH
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29
Jaarh of ArCfn phxy, 1840; J%i ChriAiian'uSHnday
Comp'tnion^ 1h43. Can you give? me the dale of
iKitt liMijr'*! dentin or auy biognipbical in formation
rr;^ftrdiitg iter ? K. Inous*
it warn i
- -- ii did thifi title,
_ no com Hi on I J in
.a, .c, coQLinue in use
ung the clergy, before
er "i It is to be foundf
^ft for itiaUinee, teveriftl times in a Ttiropike Act,
I
■ Que.
3 G«o. H,, lis, **Tke Bererend Master John
Pcnyston," Ed. Maeshajul.
Jonathan Edwards, of America,— Can any
Aniericun reader tell me wh:it arms were borne
by the famdy of Edwards, of which the author of
Uie treatise on the Freedom of tfm IV ill was a
fiieiiiber ? The family is said to have been Welsh.
1 think we shall find that Salop was the coutiry
from which it spmng. I IsAve not met with any
tueniion of its using arms ; but it is not at all
improhnbte that engraved port raitR, seals, or monu-
menU may have been so marked. The following
deacieiiL, 1 believe, is cotrect so far m it goee:—
I* The Rev. Richard Edwunis, of Oxford, time of
^»u«cn Elizabeth. 2. The Eev. Richard Edwards,
" London ; married Ann , , . . 3. William Ed-
K of America, 1610 ; married Agnea ....
4. Richard Edwards ; marri%;l first Elizabeth Tut-
hill, and second^ . , . . Taleott. By his first wife
h^ had a son. 5. The Rev. Timothy Edwards,
graduate of Har\'ard College, who married Misa
Bc«cUiftnl« 6, The Rev. Jon^ithan Edwards, the
#Utrv Preaideafc of New .lersey College, author of
f^ r....i.^i o/ ike Wtif, born 1703, married
Si»i nt, died 1758. 7. The Rev, Jonathan
£ci..— -^, -uc younger, D.D. H. B.
Hi
■ I h:
Hfpltrjf,
8PBLUNO REI^ORM.
(5««» 8. i. 421, 471, 511.)
I wish to explain that I am sorry to seem to
dbnent from Br. Brewer's view* on this subject ;
<>ji flu. i-niiTriry what I intended to say is that, to
bf be changes to be made must be much
a- than any which he has proposed.
Ml the la<it ten yeans in reading English
^ KTy date and in almost every diiuect,
I h.'«niiy require to be told that, as a matter of
Ihcti continual changes in spelling have been made,
' will eontimie to be made hereaft<*r. But I do
Ibink 1>R, Brewer rises to the height of the
4ttgnfiiei!t. I was perfectly well aware of the
«ifMdhJ# words of Professor Max Miiller to which
he ' ' lit their meiining, 1 believe,
^•' [ian he does. The problem
4tmm not in, uii see in to be generally understood.
Spetkuig generally (I do not need to be told of
the hosts of exceptions), T am prepared to main-
tain that it is, on the whole, tu>t our spelling tliat
b in fault, but our pronunciation. Those who do
not know whiU this means will gain some light
upon it by consulting Mr. Ellis's valuable work
u^M>n Early Enifluh Pronunciation, The main
result is this : that wherea^^ in olden times, spell-
ing, though by no means uniform, was maibly
regulated by phonetical considerationB, and at-
tempts were made to spell words as they were
pronounced ; everyone knows that, at the present
day, the sjiellinj^ gives no real clue to the sound
of the word which it represents. Whyf The
answer will be found to be this, that pronuncia-
tion has changed far more rapidly than the s|x^UiDg
has done. The invention of printing did a great
deal to yL the sfi€*lling ; and, since Gaxton's time,
the changes made have been of a mild and timid
character, slowly verging towards something like
a generdl uniformity. But the pronunciation has
changed, in the same period, very largely, till at
last we have arrived at a period, in 1874, when we
are situated in a far worse position than ever be-
fore ; when the divergence between writing and
sound is m great that, if any reform is to be made
at all, nothing short of a tolerably l»oId one will at
all s^itisfy the conditions of the problem \ and, to
me, it seems idle to discuss points of minor ira-
poTtiince when the whole matter requirt^s to be
boldly taken in hand. Aiid here I may as well
say at once that the conclusion to which many
who have considereil the matter have come is, that
there are only two things worth doing. Either (1)
to leave the matter alone altogether, tnisttng to tiie
printing-offices to make such Blight improvements as
may, from time to time^ seem good to them ; or (2)
to propose some new system, more or less phonetic,
which aball be aocepted as '* good " spelling eoneur-
rtntly with that which all the best printing-^fi&oea
will certainly continue to use. In tt^e third course,
which conajats in mere attempts at mending the
spellings of some classes of words, I can see nothing
but the elements of ^ikrc, because, what one
person proposes another will disapprove of, and
the net result will certiiiiily be tluit nothing will
be donf* by eoiubined individual effort onUide of
the printing-offices, It has been, in fact, tried by
several hands, notably by Hare, and we are still
where we were ; and, this being so, I sympathise to
a great degree with those who say, why not leave
the whole matter alone ? And, in fact, I think that
what I call ^* printer's spelling ^* requires no par-
ticular alteration. On the other hand, those who
can rejvd the signs of the times will discern that
the problem is presenting itself for solution, and
will, ere long, push itself to the front : and I much
sujjpect that something will have to be done in tlie
w.ay of an admiaaible concurrent system of spelling*
The p.Hoo of the present day is tremendous, and we
are coming to this, that there will be thou
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
wbose interest it h tole&m to read, but who cannot
fairly B|Kire the time to master that iieculinr system
of gniphy which is useless phonetically, but miiy,
by the etymologist, he rightly termed " ortho-
pruphy." The whole subject is too vast a one to
he auitable for furthor discuasioD in these pa^es ;
I only wish to repeat that I have no wish to difiVr
from Dr. BrtEWEU, and that 1 merely intended to
say that 1 doubt if he will be successful, unless
he* takes a sufficiently extended view of the case,
I ieei that I have written much in this communi-
cation which can eiwily l>e misconiitrued and
challenged ; but it ia difficult to be at once clear
and brief, and I have no desire for controversy.
Walter W. Skeat.
Cambridge. ^ ^
Ralph db Cobham : Mary db Roos (5"> S,
i. 208, 294, 397.)^! think it advisflble to take
notice of Hermentrudb's comraunication to ** N^
& Q." at the latter reference, otherwise, I fear i
pedigree of the Bmoae family will become mfl
confused than ever. Hermbntrude, in her 2soj{
aasertion, says that Alina, daughter of her (Afa
de Roos^fi) eldest son, married in 1294. Now thj
iippeartt to me to be an entirely incorrect aasertia
for Alina was the daughter of William de Br
who was the son of her husband by his first wil
Ifebel de Cbre, whereas Mary de Rooa waa
third'wife. Again, in No. 3, her third son, <^
'' leaving his son." Now this would be, accordii
to Hermentrudk, Richard de Braose, who died J
1294 ; but if t!ie inquisition taken ^m his death!
examinetl it will be found that he died s. p., i
that his brother, Peter, was found his heir, aged i
Inq. 24 Ed. I. No. 38, so that Km son Gile«
myth. I believe the following table of pedigree i
be found correct, if I may be allowed to give it i
Ifci^be], dn. of Gilbert =1 Will sum de BraosBf^Aeum, da, of Ni-=MiU7,dft. of Wm, de
de Cl&ro, E. of Gluu-
ceater, 1st wife.
died TilJy, Lord of | cbdaa dc Moels, \
Bnuiiberj Ilc. \ 2iid m(e.
ilUDa, d. ofi=
= William de=ElM&1ieth.
ThtJS, de
Brao^e, d. d and b, of
>tulton.
132(5, Lord Rayntond
1st wife.
of Bram- de Sully,
ber, &c 2nd wife.
Roos, 3rd wife, d.
1325-6, l^q. p. m.
Beatrix* d.=SirGile«de=M&ad, d.
and h. of I Braoge, d.
John de I 1305.
St Elena,
let wife.
of Eu«-
tiic« do
Witney»
2nd wife.
Ricfaard
de Brao9e,
d. nu,
uamar*
ried.
Peter de
BmosB, m,
Agnes,
d. m2.
I
Lucy.
, m. 12&4, John de Mow- Joan, in. Jamea
jp; 2ndlj Hicbard de Pee- dc Bohuo; dau.
bale ; dan. aad oo-b. and co-k
[ am quite aware that Mary de Roes, the widow
of Willtrim de Braose, and Mary de Bmoiic, the
widow, first of Ralph de Cobham ^ secondly of
Thomas de Brotherton, arc two perfectly different
personages. I believe myself that the latter Mary
must be searched for in quite a difTcreiit branch of
the family^ viz., that one connected with Lincoln-
shire. Ah 1* am compiling at this moment a
pediffree of the Braose family, to insert in a work
that I am preparinfjfor the press, Caaiks, AfauMmu,
*Smf*, (^c, of tht \Vt^.<tcrti Division of the County
of iSu^ex^ any notes concerning this family arc? of
great interest to me. D. 0. E.
5, The Crescent, Bedford.
Maria, third wife of William, son and heir of
John de Braoae, and Margaret Llewelyn, was,
probably, a daughter of William le Rus, and not
of William de Ros, as Dugdale »tate». William le
Rus married Agutha, sole daughter and heiress of
Roger de Clere, and his wife Matilda (Inq. p. m.
34 Hen. IIL, No. 44). She inherited from
her mother a moiety of the manor of Brotidey
in Surrey. WiiJiaiu le Rus died in 37 Hen. 111.
{Inq. p. m. No. 4 9) J leaving a daughter Alicia,
married to Richarfl de Braose, brother-in-biw to
Maria, He and his wife, in 56 Hen. IIL (Blom-
field's Norfolk)) gave to William and Maria de
Jobn de
Braose.
Maud.^
Brao»e Bromley in exchan|;:e for iUfenham
Suffolk. Akenham, however, had been the
pcrty of William le 'Rus, and may have
gmnted to Maria by Alicia. The fonuer, at her
deaths in 10 Ed. IL, [>oa8essed Bromley, whi^h i
passed to her grandson Thoma.s de Braoi^e, a^H
aldo Akenham, which reverted to Alicia^a heir. ^|
is reasonable to suppose that Maria was a daughter
of William le Rus, but illegitimate ; for at the^
inquisitions (34 and 37 Hen. IIL) Alicia was found
to be sole daughter and heiress.
Some writers of county histories have confound
the above -named Maria with one of the same nad
alleged to have been the second wife of her thu
fcon, William ; and they have also said that, after
William's death, she married Ralph de Cobham^
and then Thomiis Plantagenet (de Brotherton)^
balf-broiher to King Edward IL, Earl of Norfo,'"
Mar?hid of England. Records prove that she '
the wife of Ridph, who died in 19 Ed. IL,
of Brotherton, who died in 12 Ed, IIL ; but they
speak of her its a Braose by births tmd not hj
ruarriage. She died in 36 Ed. IIL The foUowiJ
are extmcts from the Inq. p. m. (PU 2, No. 9} 5
*' Maria CnrnitiBsa Norfolc', uxor Thoane de Brotl
ton Coiuitis Norf'^ relicta Radi dc Cubebaiu miUtia.
" Thomns de Brotbertoa deBpotuiavit Moriam de Bii
secundam uiorem suun.
4
thiW
after
ham^
ton)^
m
r
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31
•M«riii tenuit de ba?r£ditiite Jobannla CoWUam, et
Railulfl CoUrham pri^i Tin ejuedeni ComitJ»i» Tuaoc-
riuin <le Anlitijutoiu"
In 35 Ed. Ill, by a deed dat^ at Fmrnlinghara
Cftsile, John de Cobham jrnint^d for life to his
jnutber (dotuinjp Marite de Breuse) all tlie manors,
&:c, which he had in BackiDgham* and other
counties, by concesaion and feofnient of Ralph de
Wcdon (BM Cott Juts. c. vii. 174), Maria held
many of these at her deiUh, and anion^ them
Weflon, To a bond, executed by Maria at Wedon,
A wai was attached, having in the centre a heater-
iliAp^d *hield (Plantagenet amas)» between three
circuhir shields (Braose arms). (JuU, c. vii, 174.)
Felix Laurxnt.
Bmox : WrcKKRLEY, &c. (^^^ S. i.* 164, 25*1.)
— If Wvrlii Hpy was indebted to MassLnf,'er for the
i«i* d in the passage in his play of The
Cou- j'^^*^ I weigh the man, not his title j
'tw not the king's stamp can make the metal
better** — he has most decidedly improved upon
the originaL Had Mr, Macgrath added to
Iw« cj notation from Masainger's Great Duke of
* They c«n give v^mltk and tittet, but no virtues '*
I the words which follow — " that is without their
^ power,'* he would have shown an aluioiit exact
ilel to Bnmss well-wom^nes—
** A prince cnn m&k a bctt«d knight,
A marqais, duke» and a' that;
But an hone«t ntui'a aboort liia might,
Quid faiLh he otauna fa' that !"
^ TKii, however, has been pointed out before, vide
7ff' Instructor, 1845, vol. i., p. 145. But it
8 to me there is some confusion of ideas in
illne^ by Ma^sinfrer alnoiit the atamp on "pure
tad try'd j*old." If I understand I he pa?«i»ge
aright, Masainfrer expresses a sentiment directly
the opposite of Wycnerleya "^tis not the king's
itfump can make the metal better " ; Sterne's
* honour*, like impressions upon coin," &c. (see
\mj note, 5*** 8, u 164), ami Bums's "the rank is
ihfi guine* stamp," &c,, for he declares that
uizaro, ^* bemg pure and try'd gold, any
%jht I>ttko is pleased to give him to make
I current will add honour." I do not see any
» KUppose that either of the^e authors was
1 to any of his predecessors for the idea,-^
inly not to Massinger, who does not seem
^ hare got hold of the right idea in the matter of
rtke 4an^p on **pure and try'd gold." What he
T n)«(an«i to nay is evidently that the Duke would
tint utamp any man with his approval unless he
knew hira to l>c of the genuine metal ; but what
hh*•oth^^ »!»thors eicpress is that, even when the
^'hI to the pure gold, when virtue is
honour?, tne gold, or virtue, is not
^cr«Jiunccd in value. The capricious and
ate conferring of favours and honours
by princes on persons devoid of merit or virtue
has been the theme of poets through all timt% and
by none has it been denounced so forcibly as bj
our great dramatist : —
** Who ah all go about
To cosen foriunG and be honourab'e
Without the stamp of merit } Let none presome
To wear an unJeterved dignity.
O that iwintep, dej^rees, niid offices
Were not derived cnrniptly ; that clear honour
Were purohflsed Ity the merit of the wearer/' ice,
ApropoA of parallel passages, give me leave to
add one or two to my list of ** Poetical Reaem*
blatires '• (5*** S. i. 164). We ^ve seen Burna*a
lines —
" A prince can mak a belted koigbt," kc.
pamlleled in more than one instance; but I am
not aware that a ftimilarity has been discovered
between them and three lines in the poet Gower*»
Vonjuno Atrm-idu^ viz. —
** A ktn^ can kilt, a king can sare ;
A king can make a lord a knare ;
And of a lord a knave also/*
In the cases already cited the power of a king
stops short of conferring virtue, but here he is
credited with power to debase. These Iin?s are
quoted by D' Israeli, in his Ar^ianliu of LiUraturt^
IlU connexion with an amusing conversation be-
tween King Charles L and the Marque&s of
Worcester. It is needless, I presume, to infonn
most of the readers of *' N. & Q.'- that the word
hnave, in Gower*s and Chaucer^s time, and for long
afterwards, did not signify a low or dishonest
person, as we now employ the word fdlow in its
contemptuous sense, but simply signified a serv.inL
I may, however, give two examples, the first of
which is curious enough : in an old translation of
the New Testament^ the apostle Paul is descrilted
as ** Paul, the Innvd of Je*us Christ" (1 think this
is noticed by Evelyn in h'm IHary) ; and in that
fine old bcJIad of JRobm Hood and Guy of Uis-
homt we read —
" But now I hare flalne the master, he bmcs.
Let me gee atriko the knave/'
Another instance of simLhirity of idea and ex-
pression :—
"Silence and Darkaees,— iolemn tisters,— twins
From uncirat Night — who nurse the lender thought
To Reason, and t^i Reason build Hesoive'^
That column of Irwt rnujtMtif m jvtciw/'
Young's Ni^kt T%oushis,
** Come, firm Raotv€. tak' thou the van,
TAiru Hatk <t* ^ri hrmp in fnaa. **
tturaa, Epistle to Davie, a Broiktr Poet,
The Scottish poet here seems to have hcdpcd him-
self to Youngs idea ; it is well known Burns was
an admirer of Young's writings, W. A. C\
Olasgow.
"TWAS AT THE BiRTHNlGHT BaLL," &a (5* S.
i. 448) will be found in the European Magazine
for January, 1782, where it is entitled **A Piece
of Ingenious Levity ^* :^
32
NOTES AND QUERIES,
p'* 8, n. Jvut ll/'Tl
'''Twtti iifc the Birihniglil BalL tlr,
God bleu **ur Gr»«tou» Qu-i-n. |
Witf rv ]>i!(Tf>)e greiit At»ci gtu^tli fir,
Ar« cti fit ff*"tiii;» imetu
V [rMm France^
A l: — -, ea^w,
Tho' wci *he tiipp'd
The loiiy •hpi*'d
And off ihe raitt, her slioe.
1 h x)di«-dox.<dJ«-dMO.
The t*— — ili4it litTthoe,
Her ni|(hne«A Ut>p|i'dy
The fid «leri ftoi-pM
Not knowmg «rh»t to do.
Am axed iki sucb & p&uFe, «ir,
'Jlip d»nc«r«i to « riiai>,
Eax*!* *o htikf tiie oAute, sir,
Aruiitid ihe Priuces^ r«a;
Jjiird lit rtlord too
Lii<<' l>glHni»i|r fleiv,
An«I Ih'^' ijnn««d in tr.ickle,
L «i«l down hia wund^
And kftt H h»iid,
fier Hityikl t«h4i« tu bueltle.
Doudle-dijodlr-duo, ^c*
^•The TeBtftl mat d^ of h'Honrr
AUetiii%e to th*ir Uuty.
A]J omv^ded close upon iKt,
The i'linec bu< vey'd tlieir boMflty*
A^liitired rhoir zeal*
For'* prtner* heel»
But VtU tbem he c mi^tT^d,
Tha* >cuu fidflc ft^epi
Mniitc dait i-repti^
TAt« flior^ luUht b« rctrifTfld*
D uud I e doodle doo. ke.
The Princes* eomi was ^hi'd, «ir,
An-j njcm the d a rite weni: on«
'Til »«iid Si I me gum diaii Gi>d, Mr,
Came di»wn to vet it done;
Pi fh ^jifl 'til* true,
Old KiihIa d tiio.
Iff ig])t danco from n'glit io tlQOHj
ll 8li| e of Smtc,
A«in»ng*t the f^i-eat.
Ware m n^ied h^iirmi eooxL.
p04>dtt"dno<l|r-d'H^
£gid 'lis ve 7 true,
iitr Jftt^ « r ftiMin,
TUi'.v'ro nut i.f tane,
And know doI what %a do.* "
Colli Ks Trelawkt.
At tbe Gotirt ball, givcii in celebration of Queeo
<;'liurlotlc'» binbdiiy (Jtmuaiy 18, 1782X the
Princeii8 Boyal, di-riog tbo first country d^incc,
eauyht the frioge of her p^lticoHt in the buckle of
her shoe, wbith brought I he dance to an abrupt
ternii nation. This incident gave risse to ihe song
incmireii for by ** J* C. C."
The few en ty -four persons who took part in this
meiuor&bio dance were —
Prince rf WaJes,
Bukf of rumherltutd,
I)uke of Doiieti
h»f¥*\ R4tclifutd,
Lord Otftluiini
Mr. GrotUlej
Princess RoywU
Lrkdv A. CMm^ibell,
Lsudy Ht^iriiiont.
hiuly Fr.iurvs Pinch,
Mr, N^nrtli,
Coloiti-I St, Legate
Mr BccklJid,
Mr Went.
Mr, Luiidcy,
>{iti4 Brodi^Hck,
Mt»<< North,
MUi North,
Lady C. Talbot,
Mi-s Woiidlcy.
The first nomber of the Europran Maga
(J.anurirj, 1782) contuina an enLT^aving of
Princess Royal nod the Prince of Wdes aancind
fxiintiet. William KayneO
UiLTrin^n Street , Hftniptt^iid Eoad, N.W.
*^ Phestkr John " and the Ahhs of tre
OF CmcBESTKR (4^** S. xLi- "poJisim ; 5*** S, i.
177, 217, 359, 450.)— Id reply to Ma, Mackkni
Walcott's query standi ng at the head of his last
paper, I take leave to ask a question and to wake
a statemeut. My question is, if the sms of
ChriBtchurch, Canterbury, be oot a " pall," what
Hre they ? My stat^ement is, that I hare said
notliing whatever of the arms of ** SL P«ter*«,
York.'^ Id addition, I luaintain that the arma of
the See of Hereford tire three leopard** beadfti and
de-tcriH*d by Peter Heylin thus : — " Gules,^"
Leopards Heads tetersed, swallowing aa mi
Flower-de-luces, Or/' Bishop 8purrow*« desc
tion ia identical. As Bishop Canielupe did
occupy the See of Hereford until 1275, I wo
further beg to ask what were *'the firms'^ befd
his time, and why now they ** show his shield*!
I quite accept Mfi. WALCorr'a assurance thatf
meant no " sneer *|; but he must allow me in J
turn to ** rebut tlie impeachment^' (if it be such)
of "jesting observjttiona on cathedral armories
in general/* or that what I wrote was "a diversion
from the original subject." It was a manifest
logical sequence for which Mr. Walcott is re^
sponsible, and of which he has attempted no ex-
pknatioD. Edmdwd Tew, WLA,
JoHS LusoN (5'^ S. i. 449.)— Suckling has gi?
a brief pedigree of the Luson family of Suffoj
^^'illiam LusoQ was lord of the manor of Gun'
in 1724. Sir John Luson, Knt. of Kenif ia mea-
tioncd in Coll Top^g. ti Om,, vol vii., 207, aa 'Jj
fitraojiiT in London, 1595.'* He was "JDep
Lyuf tenant and Caprayne of 314 trayned
meyn." Thomas Luson held lands in '^* Vln
hanapton": see Lelanda Notes of Stafford
Families^ lb, vol. iii., 34<). The name often <
u^ Levison, LeuMn, and Lewsoo. The na
(Luson) will be fouod in the list of those peral
who signed a<*atQSt ^* any change of the Booh
Common Prayer," 1662. A Mons*^ de Lusaji
Governor of Blois, 1591 ; Lansd. MHS.*
f. 158. Rok*rt Luson, wh«'
Vaugban is recorded in the
register, 17»il» was &on f ^ V> u
Jane died 28th of May, 181 -ivanctd i
of I Hn and was buried in i LXiM,,., i lelds, '*
bofw the oldest person interred there": see
^ iK/l wt«, vol, i., 317. ^^' WivTER
WnUhatLkAbUj.
>8.n.Jrtrll,7t.J
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33
f S. i, 4ho.) — Piiny {H.N.) would
iv^ thdt Uim woitl is of Giiuli.sh
orj'^'ii. * •iiiiirii sliows that iu the onci<?nt British
Kcirth ii-DitiHi ** u»l« " (couf. Wdiih ctirch) ;
ttud it would be inttrestiug to txscejrtain whether
tht* ancient GiiuJish had a word for hurley or oats.
In ihv ancit'iit Britiiih kun\ km-ut\ is ale. In
lofKltrn Welsh cwrw la ale or stTOOfi; heer* The
jVtml. Lat has eerevitiay cervvtia^ ctrvua; the luil,
eervrtPi ; the Baiaq. nnd Sp. c«rf*m; the old
Frcoch efvervfiue^ e^rvoite^ bi^re, boiaaon. Scbeller
render* oeritvitia, ccrvi^ia, **& drink made from
COfO# which many derive from Ceres, qu. ctrctu^
«u." According? to Eckeard and others, certt^uia
wtui tmtiied from Ceref^ ** quasi Cerebibiam, quod
Cen**, id cast, fmmentum coctum bihatur/' Aios-
^orlb gives arcvisutj qu. cfrrrwia, i.e, cereiiHs
hi\nor. E. S. Charm ocs.
Gnk^r'i Inn.
P..S. Roget de Bellogiiet (Glo$8, Oauhis) gives
**o«revi«ia, (.Una Ulpien^ Di^. 33, tit. 6. 1 9,
notre c«rvoiae ou bterej en K. knrcf on kuruf^ Z.
itprpf, bi^re forte ; Ar. itorf/, iuijourdh,, Awi/r ; C.
k^r^, Le I; none ofiVe encore keirdi^ avoine ; Ai\
kmx'h ; Ckerk; Ir, JbirJt* ; E. kork''
"TttK GloRT op THEtR TiMES ; OR, THE LlTES
or THK PiUMiTivE Fathers" (5"» S. i. 408.)— Tbia
work is by Donald Lupton, and will be found in
Lowndes, who mentiona seTcral other work^ by
hrr" ^ in not be regarded as scarce, nor as of
m i value, but it is useful m giving the
kvi . .^ .., u of the lives, lists of works, and
layingt of the Fathers^ much in the luanner of
Fuiier's Ab<l MfxUvii^ug, Another work of a
mtudar chumcter by Lupton— " The EUtory of the
Modtrn ProUiiant JJivina^ London, by J, Oke**,
Ut37» l2«'«j'* with engraved heads from Holland's
licrooto^ia and Yerheiden's £ffi)i^es, is of great
j4U-ity, as may be seen by the notice of it in the
PrefaK'e to the Lrfe of Dean NoweU, by the Ven.
Archdeacon Ralph Churton, pp. ix — riii, and in
H^lfte'n Antedotc» ofLiUnUure, vol i, p. 188, edition
1:- ' " ' *' ; ed. 1814. Thf-re is a copyof this volume
iti lu Tite'a iUitahgnt^ No, 1903, for which
W ^%^^i' -IN 4b. in 1856. Br. Bliss's copy became
f»^ii)o for about the Siime sum at the »ale of his
library. It contains a note by him that the plates
were aflcrwHrdsj used for Fullers Ahd liidivitms
in \fi;\ Writing the«e lines from Middleton
Cl *h was for nearly forty years the home
o' ted predecessor, Archdeacon Churton,
J V my tribute of respect to his memory
m* and odJ attention to his Preface to the
L £c of Nuwell as full of interest, information, and
4iil»c%i0n. The terms in which he speaks of
, OoQgh arc singularly t«uder and touch iD^^
W. E. BncitLEY.
*Th« anthor nf the above is reputed to have been
with a tine book- plate in it ; it appeari^ to be pjtgcd
wrong from p. <i4, jumping to p, 77, but there i* no
matter misiiing. It seems t^ have sold, accord iug
to Bohn's Lowndes's BtbUoijrajtlirr' s Mof^ttnl^ at
various prices, the highest inentioueii being U.
There is a pencil aot-e in my copy its follows ;--
"A copy (f tine scare*- book wm n^UI at B*ir*on*t
■aleitf Mr Bn&cebridgt; sUbr%ry in Liverpool , April, 1818,
far 2/. 5«., which wai cansidored uaUer lu valve."
D. C. K
The Crescent, Bedford*
" The Liohthouse," &c, (5^ S. i. 4C8.)'-T
copy this beautiful and chriractensdc spec im en of
Moore '5 style from an edition, i>oorly printed , and
carelessly revised, published at Piiiladelphia in
1827 :—
*' Tbe icsne was tnorci beantiful far to mv flf^et
I Tbim if day in ilM pride baJ arrayed it«
The land br«eze blew u ild. and tbe Mzure-orchcd tltj
Looked pure ai the Spirit tfiat made it :
Tbe murtiiur rowo soft nn 1 silently jf ^led
la the tLnidowy warv«' playlul motion.
From the dim distant bill, tdl ibe Light-hoiuo fire
blaied
Like a ctar tn the CDld»t of the ocean.
No longer tbe joy of the eailor l^'oy's breast
Was he>ird in lii* wddl| breatbtd rtun^b^rs,
Tbe sea bird bftd flnvn Ut h r wiivc->{»rdled oe«t.
The fisherman HUtik to bid ^lutnber^ :
On*^ HKMikcnt 1 looked frnm tbe biil'*|f*f«tle slopes—
All hu'hed wa« the liiltom-fVimnn'itiun,—
And ihoui^bt th^t the I4Kbt-hoa*e lou4ed lovely as
hope,
Tliat fttur of life's tromufoui ocean.
The time ii long past» and the fccne it afar.
Yet when my he^id re*U on itit pilUiMr,
Will memory som»;iime^ rekindle the *tar
Thut blazed on the breast of th^- bill>w :
In life's cttxiin^ hour, wbert the tr m ilinfr sool flies,
And death f'tilJi* the benrt^a l«i«t emotioa;
O then may tbe seraph ol mere? unee.
Like u ittur ou eternity's occan ! "
J. H. L Oaklet.
This is in ** 8acred Pottry^ Edinburgh, William
Oliphanl, 1627. Seventh Edition/' where it is
given to P* fiL James,
CflARLXs F. S. Warren, M.A.
The Swtft Family (5W» S. i. 485.)-^ne of our
kiKgs shrewdly observed Ibit he comU make any
man a lord, but that God Ahui^fhty alone could
make a gentlemam But in th's our day, ** gentle-
man " bjis declined into a middle term between
nqtiire and yeoman. My direct ancestor, God-
win, the possessor of GocJeriche, was lineAJly de*
stendeil fmm Sir BoWrt Swift of Rotherham
(Imip. Ell/.), whose son was crc;kted by Jame4 I.
ViHcoutit Carlin^fonl ; his daughter was married
to the Earl of Dumfrias, the ancestor of the Mar*
qui** of Bute. His elde«t son dying withoui is*uo
male, tlic viscountcy descended to his second son,
thrmigh whom it descend cd, r/* jMrr, U> Goilwin,
(syBiaiJ ftf ltk& Jjciab Paialinatfj >r'^
34
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5**' a XL JlTLT 11/7*
to his present inheritor by the firet wife, with the
title conferred a few weeks ago {baronialltf} on
Mr. Fortescue.
The Goderiche cstaite was devised by Godwin to
the Rev, Thomas Swif^, the issvic of his second
iiKArriage. In his heredit^iry royal ism he sold a
portion thereof, and pre'^ented its purchase-uionev,
three thou«iinci broxid pi^^cea of goM, to Ohurles 1.
in aid of bis conte«?t with Cromwell. For thiM he
was rewarded by the Round hend^ with iniausage
and spoliation ; by Charles II. with verbiU thank?,
HiH Mujesty needing, as he sard, to make friends of
his enemie^i, whereas Mr. Swift was his friend
ready made. The residence of the Goderiche estate
came, in proeess of time, to my elder brother, who
(his only s^on having died) levied a fine and devised
it to bis ^'rand-danghter in fee simple. The young
lady survived him but a f<bort time, having devised
it to her mother, who will, I suppose ^ leave it to
her son by her former marriage. Thus has our
ancient family estate been Bwept away, leaving
me no remains of ^''The Swift Family*' but my
patriarchal race of children, gnn;indehildren, and
OTiit- grand children, with the hononr of being the
head of the second branch.
The slovenly mode of registering the Protest-iint
denizens in Ireland appears by the said '* William
Swift^ Gent," having been a clrrgyman; his father,
the Rev* Thomas Swift, and himself having been
the rector*, succeasively^ for fifty- five years, of
St. Andrew's parish, in Canterbury, as recorded
on their nnonument in that church.
Edmund Lestiiall Swjfte.
St. Verdiaka (&**> S. u 509.)— August Potthant,
in hia Bihlwihtca HUiorica Mtdii Ai^i^i^ has the
fnllnwing reference to thia person :^'* Vita S,
Verdiana> virg. Castelli-Florentii in Etruria ....
ab At tone episcopo latine scripta, , . . AA. SS.
Boll. L Febr., i., p. 257-263 ; cf. commentar,
pneviuB, ihiil p. 255-257. K. P. D. E.
St. Verdiana would seem to be the .same with
** Viridianay Ste, FerdiVnn^, V. k Florence ; en
Itnlien, Vml\/tna" mentioned in the Vomh,
HitgiologitjHc of Mi^^nage. Some account of her is
found in Zedler a Lccicmi^ " Der Getlachtniss-Tag
L^t der 1 Feb.*' R, S. Cbabnock.
Gmy'B Inn.
In Sacred and Lc^eiuJary Art is the following
small pkiijsuge having reference to St. Verdiana : —
** Arioth<?r Saint, who is sometimes represented in the
old Florrntin* piciun^s, is St. Verdiana, usunUy dreMed
M n Vallombrosian nan, but flio did not belong to any
\ TDrder. She Is rep reseated with serpen ti feeding from
her baakct."
W, J* Macadam.
Althorpe Road^ Upper Tooting,
SuKaiDA^ AND " The ScnooL for Scandal '^
(5*^** S. i. 449. \ — If we may believe his own account,
Michael Kelly, the well-known singer and musical
composer^ snid to Sherid.^n, " You are afraid of ih©
author of The School for SvaudaL'^ I have
access to the work, but Mr. Matthkws will fti
the story related by Kelly in the second volume 1
hi.^ very amusing Hcminiifcmc^if^ edited by Theodo
Hook. T. J. Bknnett.
*' Had nB " (5*^ S, L 124,)"I ace that no one j
ynur renders has thought it worth while to expn
either assent to or dissent fi-otn my attempt to
plain this usage. I must Buy it seems to me ]
stand very much in need of explanation. It
surely un grammatical, and not only is it used eve
hour in common life, but also frequently by (
best iwets in serioiis passages. I do not find n
mentifin of it either by Dr.^Iorris in hi»Acci(Uti
by Mr, Earlc in his Phihhgij of ihn Englii
Tongue^ or by Dr. Abbott in hia Shnkfspcafii
Orarnmur. F. J. V,
The "Vknoeur" (5»»» S. I 5020— My [_
father commanded the "Culloden" in the actii
of the Ist June, 1794. In his Naval CJironola^
vol. ii,, p. 2f58, he mentions nothing of the deta
which M. Wall on and Louis Blanc would feij
bcdicve of the thinking of the ship ; if they
right, he would hardly have omitted them ;
words are, " Le Vengenr sunk before the whole]
her crew could be taken out, not more than
of whom could be saved.'' Otto^J
See Jal (A.), Diction na ire Critique de
graphic d d^ tiistoirt\ Paris, I8fi7, 8vo. ; artic
** Andn^ (Saint) {dii Jean Bon)" and *^ Keuuudfl
(Jean Fmn^ois)." R. S. Turner.
1, Park Square.
[Tbe groft cx«ggen»tionB of Bftrer* utid Jean Bon I
An*lru ha?e alone tbro.in a douM ojt tbe itciud hero*
of the crew of th* '* Veng^-ur du Peu}>1e ** in i\\
j^'dlant flRlit with tho " Bniiiawick " on " the glorloiit ]
of June,'* 1794. When ihe " Vengt»ur" yttm reduced ]
a complete wreck, she dbpbived a Union Jack over h
quarter us a token of Kubmisstori (ittd a denire to I
relieved. Ai loon as it could be done, the bo«it4 of tj
** Alfred " and the "Culloden" repcnod, it i« auid, iib«
4CiO of tbe brave French crew^ and amona; them the ** V«
ci?ur'f " captain, Renaudin, vrbo did not rcraoin with t1
few who were left aboard. In the account piven »>y Vr^
tain Rcnaudin, — the only reidly truthful in;
that the iribn who were ttill on b^mrd the vt^ !t|
could not be Sitved before ihe went down^ ' .
on ponsMnt des crts lamenUblee, des secoura i]uili» |
ponvaient plus efpfirer. , , , Nous entendiona en no
t'loignimt, qui'lauef uns de not camarndcfl fonner cnea
defl va?U-T pourleur patrle. LoHdcmicr^ cris d« ces I
fortunes furent ccuk de 'Vivo la llcpubiiqne ! *
moururent <rn leu pronon^ant." The *' Vengcur'a" cr
iurrendered, and aaked to be saved from ficrishtii
Ncnrly all tctrt saved. The heroic few who law doo
inevitable met it, bke the bra^ve saifor^ that they were.
Thev loie no honour by bavins the »tmpte and creiJitablt
trucli told of ihem and ibtir rncttjontblc galhmtrv in ih
glorious tight belweirn tbe fbeti of llr^we and V'ilhinB
Joyeuse Victors and vanquished were of the stuff (
true-hearted men ]
5»li,aJirLTll,74.3
NOTES AND QUERIES.
35
"Yale College Magazine-' (5*^ S, l 44a)—
The Rev. Robert Aikman, a presbyterian clei^jy*
tosLTL, of Miiiiison, in th*^ ntate of New Jersey,
living in 1871, when the last Yule triennial
printed A letter tvdtlrcssed to him would
oWbly obluiQ most of the desired informa-
tioei. The Hon. William M, Everta, one of the
editors of the Yale ColUge Magazint^ ia aaw a dis-
tinguished hiwyer in New York City. The Rev.
Churles Rich uas bprn at Boston, Sept. 12, 1809,
and* ivfter fitting for college, uiado several voyageii,
Jk«t Q& a sailor, and afterwards as mate of a
el. He then entered Yale College, and^ in
^_ f at the age of twenty-nine, graduated. After
Sludying divinity, he wua settled as a minister, firrit
iti Wft»hington, D.C, then in Nantucket, Mas3,,
And finally, in Buffalo* N.Y. About 1853 he gave
> preaching, and went into mercantile busLnesa in
^Dwn, Jliinoisf, where he died Oct. 31, 1802.
i Hdwin Osgood 0:irter ami William Smith
ough were living in 1871, according to the
triennia.1. The Rev, Chester Smith Lyman resides
Haven, Ct, and is a profeasor in Yale
Frederick Augusitua Coe was a lawyer,
etised hia profession in New York City,
^ where he died Jaii. 9, 187U, a^ed fifty- three.
John Ward Dean.
fioit<m« U.S.
David Llovd^ LLwyNRiivDowKis' (r/'* S. i, 4?>.;
— ^In addition to the pnrticnlurs already known to
T. C. U., this eminent Pre^byte^ian (or, more pro-
I wtrlj' speaking, Unitarian) minister appears to have
' oeen ednciiied at the Carmaj-then College. He
founded nearly all the Arian congreg;\tians in Car-
I diganBhire and purts of Cfirinartheoshire. wjis a
mun of sound learning, enlightened political ideas,
^iM^considerable ability aH a poet. I have now
~ a copy of some of his poetical workB,
it Carmarthen in 1785, being about seven
\ after his death. The poems are, of course,
^ in Welah, He is said to Imve been thirty- six years
ill Uie ministry when he died. R. \V.
*^Hni>iiiitA9" (5^^ S. i. 4B1).)— The astrologer
Bitirigiyl under the name of Siilrophel, in Butler's
Hn'hf"-." r- '--r-ndly believed to have been the
m\ Lilly,
_._ - in Dettinyt d&rk connsi^b "
I in the leventeenth century. Charles 11. la said to
I luive fx«ii»uUed Lilly in hlK capacity of astralogvr
ftXfitBTKR or Jews f5«* B. L 480*)— The follow-
^ " 'V- ^Tanual for th& GtiieO'
lB56y stated what i^
* eraofhirtbi, itmrfiftgeB,
mtid .. ™. - — Uccn cornctlj ma^Je, mtd
cauinilj pf«Mrred ; tbc bulb is entered &t tliolr cere-
moTiiul on tbe ci^ljth dny: nnd ftll the etitries are aore
mtnuie tbiiii tbose of the ChrlsTtiim Church.
" The ComtoitteeB of tbe great Synagogues in Bevla
Mark« and l>uke'B PlM$e, Aldiirafe, when ttpplied to bjr
the CommiMionera appointed to inquire into the itftte of
KegiBtcrs of Births, &c., in li^^iS, declined to part with
their regi-^ters, which are kept in the Uebrew Iftngtia^e,
on tbe ground tlmt they are continuolly required for
civil &s well «« reltgioua purpoaci."
As Jews after the Act of 1753 were able to
marry in their cbapeb, their marriageiJ are more
nuraenius than in the case of others. J. S. Burns
{Hid, of Par. Rcffif^L, p. 224, Lomlon, 1862) says:—
*' The followijig is a speciroen of tbe entry of birth, at
the JJamburj^h Syim|?o^ue, in Church Row, FeruhurcTi
Street:— Julia, the diiu^bter of Jonas Lery and Matilda
bevy, his wife, of Bevn MRrks, Saint Marv Axe> wm
boni on Wednesday, the i3d August, lii-'ti.' '*—Ibid,
p. 242.
This refers to the period before the parsing of
the Registration Act. £d. Mahshall.
Heraldic (5^*^ S. i. 489.)— Ermine, on a chief
indented azure, 3 fleurs de lis argent, are given by
Camden, in his VijtUati4»i of MuntingtlofuJdrc
(Camden Society, 184S), a* the arms of Ap Rhese,
Ap Rece, or Aprece. Alpreaa, whose arms Mti,
Jay inquiiea for, will most likely be another
variation of the same mime,
O. D. TOMLIWSON.
Sprinkling Rivers with Flowers (5**> S. i.
505.)— This custom, says Reinsberg Duringsfeld,
Das Fi:Mchc Jahr, p. 144, is nearly extinct in
Germany, but stUl lingers in some parts of the
Rhine valley, c g., at Bacharach, ETc aays tlmt
the ceremony always took place on the Ist of May,
and cidlfi it Mtiibruunenfcst.
Charlbs SWAIHSOX,
Highhurst Wood.
The "Jacobus" (5*»» S. i. 5()6.)— Richard Pitt
had a gnmt of the office of Gun Founder, for life,
October 31, 1613, See Cal Stat Pap, Dame^tk^
1011-1618, ti. 204. Edward Peacock.
Bot tea ford Manor, Bngg,
La Vienville (5*'* S. i, 315, 457.)— Is this the
correct name of the Miirquis who wa« killed io the
skirmish at Auldborn Choiie ? It is commonly
given, I think, oa Vieuville, but occurs in the
Journals of the House of Commons, April 11,
1643 (and I believe elsewhere), as J)e la Vein VilU,
T. W. Webb,
"The Private House iw Drurt Lake" (5**>
S, L 508.)— On the subject of private theatres, and
the peculiikrities that ^distinguii^hed them from
those that were public, let me refer Mr. Ellis to
Thi AnnaU of the Stage, by Mn J. P. Collier,
Vf.l lii T» 335; also to Malone's account of the
E t ' prefixed to his edition of Shake^ptart,
e<jii _ iioswell, 1821, vol iii. Mr. Collier
notices seven ^* distingaiAhiDg loarks of a private
m
AND QUERIES.
[S-^S.IL Jtrtt II. *ri.-
pluy house," one of them betD|jf» "the boxes or
rooms of prtVfite thetitrea were rncloaed and locked. '
It WAS* fmiti thi-H^ in :ill prob^ibility, ihut the name
WiW derived. The Bhickfriani, the Cockpit in
Dniry Line, and the tbexitre in fcklisbnry Ooart.
were private; ; the Globe, Fort line, and Bull were '
public thesitreB* Charugs WruR,
BuDA (5*^ a I 287, 374, 417, 458 [ il 16.)— Your
correspondent W. B* 0. is undoubtedly right in
fiayinj; thcit it is Buda which beiirs the name of
Ofen, thoutjh stninfjely enoui^h the Slavonic Pesth
(pronounced F6Jii}, with the mme signification
a** Ofen in German, is upplied to the other bilf of
the town. The name probably arose from the
oven-like situation of Buda.
Buda if^ a Slavonic word, Hud fomiFi part of the
nsme of mary villages in Bohemia. Its meaning
in Tchekh, [ believe, is dwellincj-plaoe, habitation;
it lA probably connected with the English bide,
abode. AsHToK W. Dilee.
W, B. C* 18 right in his coirectiom It is BudiL
whTch is known in German by the name of Ofen,
although the latter term is properly a tRinBlation
of the name of Pesth* whicn in Old Hungarian
(like the Old Slavonic p^Mhteh) fii^nified a stove.
I vviia led into the blunder by a. hasty readinf^ of
my Hanqurinn Dulloaary (Farka.s), in which I
found **Pest, Pesth (Stadtj ; Ofen (venUtet)," and
understood the sentence as jjignifyinff that the
name of Ofen waa now obsolete, whereas the
meaning really is that the Hungarian jjoit., in the
sense of stove, ift obsolete. The puzzle in how the
German translation of the nmne Pe-^th could ever
come to desiguate the city (Buda) on the opposite
side of the river., H* W,
TuK Emperor Alexander II. (5** S. i. 464,}—
The word Uar, the German ifcat^r. Barb, Greek
Katrapf " F3ub-emperorj a sort of viaier," Arabic
htAf^ar^ are corrupted from Ctuair, The ktter,
which Schlegel derives from SiusskrtC ktJshoh
(A^Vi), "the hair of the head,'* is probably from
Ptfpsiao ffrtr, bead, top, stimmtt, a genera!, great,
hij/heftt, chief. R, S. Charlock,
Onhj'fl Inn,
"Sblb" (fi*^ 8* L 228, 276, 318.)— It would
appear evident that uU is not the same in mean-
ifjjj, if it be the atmc in oritjin, which is doubtful^
with ulio^ or adion^ which, in En^iHsh, is called a
stitcf^ or rut^ti <yf hind, and which Spelman, fol-
lowed by Bloimt and CowelL, saya waii ** agri portio
sulcos ftiiquot non f-ertos continens^; and also that
it wtM calleil '' k Gall millon, I terra elata inter
duos snicns {v. selio) "—facts these wbijch are
otherwise well eat^ibliahed.
Therefore, fdthough Mr» Dobson geems to reject
the 8tUo( Prot H. Leo, of Halle (p. 54], I incline
to receive it tm the moat p«>b«ble root of the
place-name *Me soele," or "le scle," and noj
*' seal,'' occurring in Grants of Land to Reich all
He would limit the signification of this t^rm t^\
dweXUng exdfifimhf^ in the belief that Prof. Ij<
had done the like, which, however, he baa ti^
done ; and in this way h}v<i arisen what I presttn
is Mr. Dobson's misconception. Leo says iW
the ancient form of stif. was saly the primitil
meaning of which must have been thus general; t%
this reason, as he ^ys,that ** wo have safjan inGott
meaning mancTe^ divtrten^" whkh is "nopnmitif
word,^' but, as he add«, is *' indisputably derive
from I he same root," viz. mL Then no one
doubted that manrrc (the inf. of m'fnto) is the ]
of mansuBj the meaning of which tho lenrni
Spelman says is "habitatio vel sedes rustica, nq
n?dea tauium complectens, sed terras etiam
alendam familLam idoncas" (GL z?. *'Mansta,
Mansus ") ; who also (r. *' Mansi, aellas '') cites <
*'Adnuntiatio-' of King Carolus, apud Pistl
cap* 30, where the ** hfereditates colonornm"
called mama^ and tho »ella^ the " domiciiia m
sorum " (colonorum hereditatea mnnsa vo
domicUia mansomm sella*), where also this pil
hibition is contained, *' Separarique prohibet
sellis mansa, ue divenditis terris confundanti
mansn, subducantur servitiii,et de-stniantur villin|
and where this statement is added, "Retinu
hwnc morem vetus Angloruni CEconomia t**q«« i
Henrici 2, Eobatem; ut h Garvaaio Uqueat TiJb
iensi."
Prof. Leo baa said that " If ttU be tba dwillin
of the wealthy, of landowners, eoUf on tbe
hand, indicates the abode of the poorer clnu
(v. " Cote," p, 55) ; and if this be a well-found
distinction, scle may be ju3t tantamount to
manor, un(|U est ion ably a derivi»tive of mowf
which is the interpretation of mJjan. But
says, besides^ that in the northern dialect aalu I
been distinguished from »el, the former men nil
an "aides, domus, aula"; and the latter a ** tug
ium ffistivum/' or summer hut of turf. Accolj
ingly, there is a strong probability that 9fU ^= k
is the true root of all those place-names which,
Scotland, are ciilled Bhiels, or The SheiU (i.e., pla
of the huts), sheilinga (L smlinga)^ &c.^ a« well {
of the stdU, or ateiU^ and all of which are comtriO
both single and compounded ; <i.fy.. The Sin
{U scd&?), Lyand-si'heiles, Oauld-ishiela, A^h
steil, Bar-coed*isteils, Birket-steil, &c.
Aritttmetic : Oastiko out Nikks (5*** Sc ».
332.)-'Though " N, & Q." is hardly a medium 3
mnthematic^d communications, yet, "' the ball be^
set a-roUing,'* I will dvo it another shove.
Mortimer Collins ls perfectly correct in »dl
says, but there is no reason io the world,
economy, for Teatricting the operation to nines i
elevens. The reason why, in casting out elevc
we take tJie difference between the sum of the <
mk
m
«»8.n.JoiTll,74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
37
I
I
tnd the nam of the evpn digit* i«, that the difference
between the radix (ten) and eleven is negative
unity ; hut if we cast oat any number has than
the ittdix, the operation is one of addition only,
taJcSog care to write the number operated on, as if
itA ridix were not ten, but the difierence between
ten and the number to be cist out. Thu?^ take
043^ and cast out the eights, then we work thua:—
2-f3x2-l-ix2'+6x 2»=72;
and 2 + 7 X 2 = 16 ; and 6 + 1 x 2 = 8.
That ifi, G432 ie divisible by 8 without remainder.
Or, caat out tho sevens from the same number^
then —
S+S^eS+lxa' + Cx S»= 209 ;
tedS + 2 X 3* = 27; and 7 + 2 x 3 = 13 ;
and 3 + 1 x 3 ^ 6 ;
thai is, 6 la the remainder after dividijig 6432 by 7.
Jabbz.
Alli«Dftiim Club.
• OF WiOMORE (5^ S. i. 188, 234,
)-Thot]^b I cannot tell T. H, who
III hecket, or Ragonu Beehet, was, for she
tie to tne, I can at le.ist teli him who
not, and that is, the wife of Roger, fifth
Bar) of March. The wife of Eurl Roger^ Aliunora
^ lent, survived him, and died in 1405, while
i was liTing in 1407^ and was then widow of
/ Seya. So far as my knowledge goes, she
atvtr diUed Ragona Mortimer, but K:igona
Beebet* Bomina de Mortimer.
I must beg leave to offer an apology to }*ouTiielf
and your reisers for my stupidity in msserting that
tli» Queen is the heir of the Mortimers. Tewars
liM eaoght me napping ; and though I deserve his
rttrnke, 1 do not feel entitled to the sweet envelope
ill whidi he has wrapped it I will try not to
^'dio It again*'* Hsamsntrude.
«Wtol«" (b^ a i. 347, 462,)— Stratman^s
iKefmary of Old Enfliik gives *' whele, A.-Sax.
kfdi^ potredo." The Pr&mptorium FarvHlorum
lmm\akte» the word by pmtula. F. Storr.
PftssrcKs OF THE Blood Rotal (/>** S, i. 467,
$lft.) — F. EL H. is too hasty in his reply to ray
qamy. I am well aware that the " Dnke of Cam-
bridge i* the grandnoT! of fJeorpe HI."; bnt th:\t
do«i not, on "my ' ng," explain his pre-
etdmoe over the ]> of Canttrhury and
tli» groat officers ot ^ime. The Duke i» the i^rand-
ma of m king, not of '' the ^* kinof. The diMinction
it innportnnt. Middle Temflar.
Ik«dfbr^ Yorkshire.
T r Tnterted Come as (5** S. u 9, 75,
liK, i;, 455.) — Inverted commas are fre-
<|icmlj £MU4)d in printed ph^js to denote passages
OOiiUled oo the stage : »ee Lond Lytton s Riehelim,
J. Bbakder Matthews*
htm CoK Nrw York.
Isaac (akd Joan) FnANSTiAwt (2«»* S. ti. 467.)
— Ihaac Franshtim w.'w elder brother of John Fran-
Bbam, a linen-draper in Norwich* Of hia history
I kijow nothintc more than is recorded in the in-
sicription on his tombstone (quoted above). Nor
can I tell whether they were related to ^* the
Norwich polytheist," who may have been a
nephew, but certainly was not the son of e'tiier of
them, (Why that very eccentric person waacalled
a polytheist I know not) The younger brother,
John, died about ten years after Isiuk*. I hiive a
parc^^l of his note-books, ooosisting partly of copies
of his contributions to the GetUiima^*^ J<fnrtutl
(a monthly period icjd pubiisbod in London, 1H90-
92), for the most part in vcr!ie,and not much worse
than the ruHbish whieh a few years later passed
under the name of poetry in the earlier volumes of
the Geitiletnan's Ma^^ifie^ with sundry other
eqncJly uninteresting compositions. The coHection
i^y however, not altogether worthless, for it confains
also hiR correspondence with Daniel Defoe, of whom
he uppears to have been a great admirer. These
letters are all interesting ; one from Defoe eerpecially
so, dated from Edinburgh, and containing an
account of proceedings there during his mission as
secretary to the Conimissioncrs for the Treaty for
Union between England and Scotland. None of
them have ever appeared in print, and I shrUl liave
much pleasure in sending copies for publicntion in
" N. & Q," as soon as I can find a little leisure for
transcribrng them. Fr, Nokoai^k.
17, Btdfora Sirtmtt Covent Garden.
TjTE Population Two Hundred Years Ago
(S*** S. i. 387, 495.)— Your querist will find some
useful information in HaUani (Murray's Eeprint,
p. 22) :-
** The rorthem coun'ies, etpe^'ially Lancsuhire and
CumhedMnJ, tHsiri^ vei j ill pei»j»Ecd ^nd tb« inhabitants
of LoTidun and vv«i n<iiiFier not excepdini^ f^ixty or
seventy tbnifan').'* (Note 1.) " 1 bo poiioUtirm fur H85
\§ entirtiated by coTrpttriti^ » »ort ofcen^uA in 1378, when
tht< inhal^itun*! of the realm fleem to have amouni d to
ahout 2,80<Mi<'0, M-ith one still mur** lootiem drrBHinboth
io 1588, witkh wniitd |^e atKmt 4,40r%4K}0, ninkifiiE p^^me
iitTowuDcefor inore mpid It^crea** in iho latter per od.
Three n^ilMiUa iit the at Ccsaiuii of Henry VII. ia i4robabty
not too low t»u ettimate."
G. LAUREycE G6vaim.
Marmiois Herbert ik Mr, Dl-^rakli's ** Vtif-
KTIA " (S^*" S. i. 140, 4<)0.) - In reply to a query of
mine as to the historical charscter represented by
" Marmion Herbert^ in Disraeli's Vemii^t^ a coi^
re*|)ondent wrote to you to say that SbeUey the
po«t is meant I was for many reasons diaiAtisfied
with that answer. I have junt come acrom a pa*-
sage in the last chapter of Cuiccioli*« Rec^Uteiion*
of Li>f(i Bijroti^ wnich gives a very satisfactory
aohition : —
** n« (Di*p*el?) hat given Byron (mo indiwi^wiii*t%
I#ofcl C«iiiici» re|irc»«Miit4 Byrmi fr* m hit i'lfnnev to the
time of hit m«rnA^e, »nd Mr. Herbert equmlly reprebsnts
38
W QUER
[5«^B.U.JpLTll,*ri*
Lord Byron from tbnt faUl epocli till liis dentil. The
selection of tvro persons to repTcaeid the Bame cliariLCtc'r,
and to allow of Bjron's simple yet conuplt-x HAture being
better uaderetood, was ft very happy pbilosopliical no-
tion.**
**Marmion Herbert^ ifl emmently unlike the
poet Shellej» V* de S. Fowke.
*' Dester " (5*** S, L 148, 214, 365, 498,)—" She
(the divorced wife of Char-le-Mugne) is chilled b}^
various ttamea in history, Desideria^ Desiderata,
Herinengard, and Bertha/' Extract from Hiatory
of OharUmagne. Read note p. 135 instead of p. 146,
SA the reference to the authority frotn which the
afcatcinent miuio was derived. E,
EioBT, Paymaster of the Forces in 1768 {5**>
S. i. 428, 613,)— ^Ir, Wilkes, in the Nt>rih Briton,
No. 31, closes a humorous corupatiaon, after
Plutarch's manner, of Mr. Pitt with I^Ir, Eigby in
the following words : —
"In their more priTdte chArftcteni, both Mr. Pitt and
Mr. Rr^hy bare generosity and spirit f in other things
tbcy differ. Mr. Pitt h abatemioun, t<;mporate, and
regular: Mr. Bi^jby indulges more in conTirial ple&sure»,
M an excellent bon-vivant^ ainiuble and engn^niiC. Mr.
Pitt, by the most manly eenBe. and the fine sallita of a
warm and iportir^ imagtaation, can charm ibe whole
day ; andj as tbe Greek eaid* hit entertainmeuEs pleate
even the day after they are giren, Mr. Rigby has iiU
the gibes, and gambols, and datihes of merritnt^ntp which
»et the table in a roar ; but the day after, a cruel h cud-
ache fit iea»t fre(|uently eucceedi. In aburt^ 1 vfUli to
ei»etid all wy days with Mr. Pitt, but I am afraid that
At ntjflit I ehohid often skulk to Mr. Rigby and hia
fmntU." — John Tijubs's AMcdcte JBiOffrafthi^f ** Lord
Chatham,'' p. UQ.
J. T.
PORTR AND PROFKR NaMES (5**» S. 1. 464, 513.)
— The prominciatiou ofBohvjii wasnutboritatively
settled by CJhriatopher North SQinciclurc in the
following terms : —
*' It ia wrong to say
*Bold Biraon Boliror
Hatch for old OliTer/
It abould be,
' Who can deceive or
Baffle Eoiirar*' *'
w. a
A Jew*s Will (5^^ S. i. 449, 406.) -Many
thanks to three respondents to my query; their
replies are luost interesting. In the sume will the
testator bequeaths thus: **4ti?. per annum for the
flupport of the Jews' synagogue in my gjirden in
Magpie Alley, in or near Fenchurch Street " ;
also ^ to ten Rabbies to read prayers every day for
one year after my death, in my said synagogue,
I Of. apiece."
I would ask whether such prayers for the de-
parted are in general use among the Jews, and if
so, what is the form 1 Is the siiid synagogue still
standing ? The will alluded to is that of Benja-
min Isaac, of Magpie Alley, merchant, proved
May 4, 1750, a native of Bounsall, in Bohemia.
He bequeathed several sums for charitable uses jft,
London* He mentions his »on Henry, of Fafl|
church Street BuildingK, mercliant, and threeSB
his sons, Ephraim, Hyam^ and Isaa^. Is any-
thing known of these descendants? Is this the i
Benjamin or Henry Ism\c who possessed a
collection of paintings, many of which were
graven by Boydell ? The Lord of 0u Vtnctji
by Rembrandt, was one. H. T. *"
Ranckk Riders (5*^ S, i. 203, 271» 4I9.)-:I
may be allowed to say so, and without being egotia
the best description of these ''beggars ou ho
back" U to be found in Dekker's i««f/ior7i^
Candle-light f lfJ09, a book on thieves and thio^
tricks, carefully condensed by me in my ShaJc^p
Eiifjland. The passage I allude to is the foil
ing :—
'' The Rank Riders were cheats akin to the Gcr
guests who took in 'mine host of the Garter.'
gener&lly went six or seven in company, their punet
weU-hllcd, well dressed, booted arid spurred. The Inn-
keeper they cheated tljcy called the Colt; the galled
far mop the Snaffle : and the plunder the Ring. Two of
ttiem dr«:s«cc1 as gentlemen, and the rest wore blue cnatfi
aa strTingnnfU, Tbev generally entered the bcJt inn of
the place, dirty and dusty, linking their senranta if their
footman had gone Iwck with their horses, to which the
blue coats answered *yes.' Here, then, they stopped
seireral day.4 — living in clover, keeping the rust off the
spigotst and never bating the reckoningn a penny— to
show they were gentlemen of noble eatraction. In the
meantime their servants ascertained from what county
the innkeeper came, where the ostlers and chamberlain
were born, and what other country gentlemen were their
fellow guests. They then, in the gaping circles round
the sea-coal fires, bragged of their master's estates ia
Bome remote and unknown shire, described how many
hawks they kept and how many hounds, and begNn to
fiWeur that they had come up to receive some hundredi
of pounds opon land which tliey htid lately sold, and
would harbour in that inn (liking the situation and the
host) some quarter of a year at least.
f* These reports flpread, and widening as they spread,
the betid cheat got better attended, and was socm dubbed
your worship at every eentence ; and to pleaae Bonifi
be would ri^fuso to fit down to dinner till his host '
the upper place at the board.
*" In the middle of supper, juiit at ' the pipptut and
ale,' or very early in the momiDg, ruebed in an aocom-
plice, dressed m a running f»jotman, and fiery Ijot with
baste, t«ent up a message thut Sir Somebody Something
had wished to f>ee hi« worship, and that he must be with
him at auch nn hour, the journey not being more than
twelve or fourteen miles. Upon receipt of tbif message
ifrom so dear and so noble a friend), one who stHnds «o
well at Court louk you, the chief sweated and chafed be-
cause all his hor^B were out of the way, cursed tho
aending them back, and the fool who proposed it ; o0ers
to give any sum if hii cousin. him*e]ft und hi-* man,
could b« reasonably horsed. Our ho«t provided t\j^
all horisea (if he had none bimf^elf, bori'ontng theq
hU ncighboan*, paising his word for thtir fortbcoii
in a day or two i, and with grace cupi, and kii^ieij^
hands, and rtjflie of ril»bons, the ohaata apurrcd awa«
" Three days or so ha? ing paased, and his worahip i
yet ntariiing, the host began to tiaatl a trick. He i
uuoea
'1
t man,
i thy^
!Ol^^|
lipV
9»8.U.JoiTn,7*0
NOTES AND QUERIES.
39
Qp and doum us busy u a cortitnble on Shrovo Tuetdaj,
with ^ hue nnd cry at bi» beels, and a plentiful store of
ikfout cudj^Ii, Biit ala» ! by tliii time riur frk^nds bod
rbfttiged Ihetr dresses four score milei off^ bad fold their
hortet Ibt lonie country fair^ tiomted away half the money
in i«aji of wine, and eUrtcd off in search of freah con-
fidittff boiiifl and pleasantly situated inns.^ — '* LaHtfiorni
and CtindU-iiffht; or, The BtU-matu Setond J^it/ftfi'
wf'' •'• ^hich he bring! to light a Brood of more
»t ifg than ever were iUTtbls yeare diicoTcred,
X> . ■<'? malum, feciwe nefandum. The lecond
adiuub liiwly corrected and Amended. London, Printed
for Jfihn BiuhT, iind are to be »old« at bii shop m Fleet
Strttie, in Saint Dunatane* Church yard, 100l>/*
Walteq Thornburt.
Dtnre ScoTTS (5*>» S, i. 488.)— I take the fol-
lowing from Brunet^a Mamul du Libraire^ Paris,
1864:--
•SoctTca (Joanna Dam).
** t >. pv-i..YitrFe quodlibeticn purgatae per Th, Penkeih.
r , f «t, M, CO: c 1 X X m T. IJitc A (btftui tgo Sttn*
B? ri jrrtsti {Vmtliu), in foL Edition
Tv e» routa: Et cunrra rcn d*Mcila
{> ant par un index de 5 ff. Vend,
tc 1 .: . id: 2 Uv. 2 lb* Pinclli. et moins
d'liuii, rar en Rcwcnd toutes ccb anciennea ^itiona dea
tiaouloKiena tcoljDuitiquei aont 4 tr^sbaa priji/'
SpAHtc.^ Henderson Williams.
IS, K«fiilngton Crcficent, W.
Heraldic (5**' S. L 348.)^ — The arms appear to
be those of Walbunke, of Kixkbridgc, &c.» co.
York* The coat^ ^lej a fesse fiubatucd urgent^
between two fmhires in chief and li g&rb in base or,
b quartered by John \^'^illbanke ChildeTB, Esq., of
CAOtley ; and the crest, on ft g»irb, a bird rising or,
k borne by him as a seoood.
Charles Jacksoj^.
Doneaster.
Pedigree Tractko (5"* S. i. 609.)— I should
adtiae X, to purchftfie a copy of Siin»*s Manual foi'
(As Oencaloffifty Topograpktr^ Antiquarif, and
^ i^al Professor. He will, in this hook, tind an
ant of most of the public records likely to be
service. If, however, the membera of the
fiLUtily whose pedi^ee be wishca to trace were not
i^nr. T^ ..r i-ijui or hoWers of offices of importance,
1 ' the work neither easy nor cheap. As
111: . ( , u of the information soraelime.** ati'orded
by the Jnmtu, Fo*t Morttm, I may say that, not
lonjc Jign, 1 found in one of these documents (taken
in 1535) the eridence of nine generations.
H. FiSHWicic, F.S.A.
I
ffifrrllaurcrutf*
KOTBS ON BOOKS, kc.
OUcTt Aiy fn LkhfiitUi, a.d, 164:!. amd eiktr Skvrt
fermi. By I he Rev, R. J, BuddicoTn, M.A, Vicar of
1l|#r<AT}. ^»tt»l^^>^c^r^^^«h. ^Parker & Co.)
trd attractiTe. Dork deeda
•T yc^ ed in veraes rf pleoaant
f<ta4rti^ ' vrho«e namci fjiU »o fanti-
HaHy on lh« ear trum ihfi Churcb'a calendar, but whoiie
tetonci af« not every day read, are depicted without
fentiment, and without an unmerited tancUty heHg
attributed to the or)Kinnl«. The inartytdunia arid per*
aecutions of men to whom innny of our churchrf nre
dedicated are faithfully told. The dayf of the Baptini,
St, Chad, Alphagc, Abp* of Canterbury, and of other*
*' whoae praise "naa once in all tho cburchea" wiU bo i
found fur from tubjecti of dull reading.
Mainoc, EpfliHe^ ttc. {Pickering*)
Tttt author of thia little volume of poema need not hft?e
iuppressod hi^ name. He may fairly claim to be a writer
of poetry. Mainoc can hardly be faid to be the pro-
minent feature of the five cantos devoted to him. Sitttil^a 1
and home truths are inserted to a grtat extent and with
aucceafl. Mainoc cornea on the acene, in the midbt of a
atorni, distracted, and the very imafi;e of despair. "Ho
la a dreamer ever of that which could not be ; a phantom-
lU'icked and wild brained being. He had no aenfe of i
fault. He knew no friendahip.*' Kvelino h a pcniive» «
and lonely girl. Her deep love ia misinterpreted ly tho |
a^iiniring jet timid Oic&r. Both pine in luneJineM, but
Time ^ivea a voice to Reticence. All gloutny tboughto 1
are at last a^roeabty stilled, Alcvone and other short
poems close thia alluring little book.
BtTiTAit's " PiLGRtji's p£0<i&t:S8 " (fi»* a 11. 8.)— Tho
following ia the letter in the Guardwht referrtd to in
the last number of " N. k Q." . —
" Sir,— After two daya of careful research at the Brittah
Museum Library, I can perhapa give aome further infor-
mation reapecting the Aubject of my former letters, and
\n reply to two letters in the Ouaidmn of tbii y^ttek,
"It appeara that Guiltaumo de Guilleville wrote his
first hook, Le Petcriftaqc de V Homme for de ta Vftt
Ilnmainr)^ about A.i>. ^1330 to 1^35, and re-wrote it
in 1368.
*' Between these dates he wrote two other hooks, vit.,
£e Ptlerina^e de VAttte and Ze PtUnnagt de Jtms-
Chrut,
"It is to ihe jirnl of these, if any, that Bunyan wao
indebted. To look for coincidencrB*bet*^cen TAe I*yt*
orimagt ttf the ik^uti and Thi Pd<friin'ii Prwp^^t is use- -
less or nearly aOf as the lutter Vncfji where thefumtef-i
begina. Bunyan does not enter into th** tutject of tho j
intermediate ctato; De tJaUUviUe'a ticond book treat* I
only of that. |
"I find that the rolutne printed by Caxton to 148S '
containa no p^rt of De Guillevilk's first book^ bat begins
with his lecond.
*' A rt- print of the Pilnrxma^t t*j Man, waa made for
the Roxburghe Club in 14<69- In the prefuce to thta
work it is stated :—
*' * It is not within the scope of the present prrface to
discuta a queation which h>ia been raiicd aa to how fai-
Eun>an may have been indebted to this allegory for tho
idena atid even the detaila of hia /V^nw's Pi'offru$^l
But it 10 at Uast worth tf of rtmark that «m ike fevtnt<mt^
ttntury thfft w«# citpitd and atOiUttid in MS. a con'
devttd EmjtUh wivion of (/, d* Guiilrtiiie't Eirtt Pit-
ffrtmaffc. . » , . In the Univr— '*" ? * - r- -* * -' l^jidge
there is a itmall volume of J cUaa 1
mark is Ff, 0. 30. , . , , It !• ,i cTerf
law this, or th<r Ghwp' u ^^Ii-muiii "
(Q. 2. "151 (^r the MS. i volume is
mint-. I i>» i\^--a In i! ,_.. .. .. j-n'i Cnllrge^
Cati.i ] I, hvt he may f*e 9<mt Uiftt haw* faiitn <»
ipi(/ ffith that dncrxbid,*
**Mi<«' ii-iH rianitatiuu and ctmipurisfm " ' ' I
upon the French >IS., vrbich Bunyan i<i nr\
have sern, nor could have rtad, aa wc are told
«tood no language but lib o«vn. There are stiU » few
copies of thia wurk^ botli of Uie Pii{fr%tnagt of Man. and
m
40
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5«* B» IL Jolt 11/
of the &M1I, to bf hiMl lit Ptckoinsr's, TUe. Piccadilly.
Tliey weie prii tcl in 1858 and 18.W. 1f»jr, each* I Jiud
tliMtMr. f^iHTHili, in hi» Antr»fitt*^» of htt^iiurt. refera
tu tbff re*cni1il«in e bciwei-n the /'•Vf/fn*/f J^*upiti4 nnti
i^ti 4)ld woik by l*itr* Piawnuirv. br. Dit d n «&>a the
/S'A/riwio<3M» «/ rA<? iS/**/ liii'l the lonTidiitod of (he
Ptl,r»mr Prf^jrttf, nhicli i^ ckftHy a nii-t«k«, &a I h»ve
8'nt>d ftb>>ve, 6* uthey rjiVF, *The atime ttile^orv h<id
of tun been trtat' d tefort* b in. Soft** of ihtte way A ore
Jatlrn tu littntfan't vnyr «"^ WinhJ^ti fat cithCepiioH.
Vhirft A« iFifg ftot *viraif of mth frjiutiitr.*
*' T Clin hardly *«iik you tu firi'l hoom for f>n Im'tr a loiter
as thi-* without cjipt' fBil»^f my th links t'« the Libt^rian
lii •! offici-T^ of the firiti-h Museum for the brip they §»
nudly and courteously havt; &ifcrdi,d me.
" W J. Sthackt.
*^' Buxton Vlcarap?, Konncb, June 20. 1874/'
Piii»ep» im '* PiigrimV Proirreaa " not c«ipied from ** The
PHgrinus»re of the l?oul '* wi.I h^ found in *' X, & Q /' S**''
£J. viii. 268» 37:^, 4M2. See alM> 3^ B. viii. 46.
"Tjiii NortTntiMUEiLLASD HocsM Lioji.— Mr Pmnk
BtJck)ittMl, ill a If tier to Land ut*U IVufert fKiites tii»t,
huppcnin)^ til be pai inir N'onhumber aiid B«>u»e on
Thiif'dny ni* the li'^ti iva« beii'g takm <iowi>, he obtaijiiecl
tiermiuiiiri to iii6|iept it. The inscription on the lion,
Mr BuckiA' d Ba\«, ni« a thus :— ' aio r d : u 1749
c : If Hkbt/ Under this, on the f^ast Adt% is a mmio^rarn
i>f the letter a wih an s tainted into it ; on Iht; wrst
«idt?, the It-tter h vnth & p, and hung^ i>n to ou*^ of the
«n»ail )«f:B below ihi« iii a cr^^sr, %iz . a 1 oronct with live
eynkep, carrying n^und bftlla. mil uudnnratli a balf-
tDoon ; on thr? niber I de is a diffVrunt puttem of a
eoronet, with three BCrawbf-nrT lr«ve« und a phcBn^x
rbi K' from the flninest ; the ft>riiier is the Karrn, the
la'ter the Ducal corontrL The nira§uremctit of the
litn waa an foDows :— From lip of nose to end *»f
tail, eleven feet it-ven ; tail, four f*et three ; heiglit Mt
fth'MiTdfni, five feet five; round the Mime, six feet;
vci^ht, abiiit one nnd a hJf ton«. 1 he body ie le id ;
the (ail citppT, There are three ctiats of p irnt on the
titin : ooe La bright liiue, IJe wa< puint«-d blikc in 1822
by the tlit^n clerk of ibe work^. The iit»cripii<m wtifl tn^
terj^reted 10 Mr. Buckkitd a4 mcnDiog ' Alv'crnon, Dtike
<>i e^imeisiet. 174i> (hi d tht) Countess Nortlmuibcrlnnii
resiorod ' Tbo Hon ro|ir6«eivts the f*iue lion, the cre*t of
the I'ony family, Karl* of Norihunjb^r'tmd* The stone
on wliieh the bon »tood, and into whiob bis pnwa were
faUc tied with lonif iron roiis ba <ed io, rcpr^etnt* the
choptau li'hortjftitr of the cre*t/'— /^a// kiuH Oatttie.
EoYAL AncH^JLuorcAi. iN^TiTtTTR.— J«/v 3.— ionl
Tulhot Ue Malahidc, Pieaidout, iu the ibair.— Mr>
<jr« avea reatl *'Nute9 on the Ura^n^fl on the Tomb of
KicholsB KfjiTelon m Mu^ginEon Church, Derby-hire."
— Mr, J. H* Pa'ktr, C B,, g^xe a d acourso o i " Archo*'
*»b».ic<l InveHiig^ititn-* in Kome during tlie Winter of
187-74.*' Till* wii.'* [[histruttd by tmnicrnusi pTanj*,
sketches, and pbi>togra|'bs. — Mr Bohn exhibited two
poitL<<]ifi of frescoes {'rt>ti} Pompeii; Mr. Hiptii^lcy, an
anoii^ beiid and two o'j c\.^ in lironze ; Mr. GuMiniir«
tU roui d- !•< of the time f-f El snbeth : Mr*. Gwilt,
rutvbing of u br irs in ihc church of 8t. JMhn, Margate, —
Mr. Tirge las gains an out ine of the prof^sed arrani^e-
montfi for ihe liipon Mevtinjj;* beg(imii*g on the 21et in«t.
PoBTft*ns op BiujtflficARK. — Mr Hain Friswbll
writes: "I »ni aliotit to i««>ue a nt'u ' ! i : my Uff.
Piiriuiifj uf ShAkk*jitTt, Ihe fine s of the
p<utr<ita will he repr<-duced in pcm i i igrap})K,
•rv« ral new ones being added. MrghC i a«« tiuy 4»f vonr
readers nhn have oopieH of the A!«libourne, thr Ketton,
or any other curious poHraitn, it they would aid m^ by
letting me have them copied I The greateitt care should
be taken of them if sent to me, cnre of the publishuflJ
Messrs. Sampson 1>ow« Mar^tnn &. Co.| 188, Fleet 8t]
" fair Hume. Bexky Ho^iik"
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
tl'A.%T£n TO rtJncrflASE.
P&rtfoti1ftrft of Frlitc, Ito , nf c^vry br>ak to he ««iit 4$d
the fh-r-itii hr «h"in It i« Mquitttl, «bo«t iMtntt ft«»d addn
firi^«i f»'r tliQi iturpwBi'i—
, 4L< LiiiitT, po DahIlNMv a Scnoon bjrL. (
r i IfflHl,
J MS of was vf Ihe Ko^eli Mf Vui Lesuivp« tke Dfriteb
^ maud b^ S4immr4, f§op>tk, Boktmtard Maawi
BtiJB
^oHrrff to € QtrtiponHtnti*
pt*itn(j ttj CAtfwt, ioih /or thtir taixi at well tu our Qwn-^
Tkttt ihev JthnulU wirii* clrarttf and distknrUtf — p|i4 Of!
one aide of tl ' '
and woidii :•
TfqU'iltd, 1 1 . I
rt'SfOhdettt d<**:4 not UkttJ^ wttrik Un^ Ui^iukUi 0/ imfasyl
1m. Roy.— The auth'ir of the £l^t Hiftfonqm di
At ad time Eth'thtik dr Fttinet w<is M. Per rand. Tba
edition pubbuhed in PariH in 1314 waa the second, The
first editioQ waa published at Katiabanne fi«verftl yoftTl
before.
C; P. S. WAtcREK,— The paasagie al hides to the project
of certain Frtuch reformeraof a generation ago to divido
society into phalanxes.
N.— The acre varies in extent in En^rUnd, IreTimd.
and ^<cot'ft^d, 121 Irish acres = Kuglish, aud 4S
Scotch = 61 En^ilitih.
A. L. M AYBiiW, — It is no iaptvs eatami df ours. The
line etunds in Thf Soeakrrg Commentarif aa B. 8. W, giTca
it; aud he simply uakd how it ia to be amended.
F, H. O.^'* Was Hiinyan a Oip«y? * See " N. k Q"
S-*^ 8. ir, 465; t. 15. 3ia, 386; vi. 07; and note on
Buuynn's Paientage, p. 25 of present ounibcr.
R. W. P. (BathJ.— The London FMtOjflce D^rfdory
gives the informatiou with the exception of the dales of
tonndation.
B P. J.—TkewkoUAH of Tachtf^apky : or, Short-
kand Wrdtfiff made Maiia, &0., i* not considered scarce.
J. B.— Tlie subject of artbangeU bse been discutsed in
" N- & Q.," a^^ 8 ix, 4t$2, 617 ; x. S4, 137.
W, — Wilbam Curtis, the botanistj naa born ia ]
and died in 17iJ9.
L, P.—** Abraham men.'* See ** N. & Q.," l**S.^
P . D.— Yule wa« the name anciently given to OhnttBiis.
T. C. D.— Inquire at ihe Lamb«th Library.
W. R. C. "We cannot ay.
C. SoTBKRAif. -I'ou shall hear 1
BiGMA,—*' Situate* next week*
BwRATPM. — Piij?c 518, col. 2, line 13 from bottom, for
** houjc- keeping/' read hoiM-keeping,
IVOTWJi.
Editorial Communications should be addrnsed to " Tho
Editi^pr "—Advej tisemente and Bu<^ine(ts Lettt-ra to "The
Puhlifiher "—at the O0ce, 20, Weliii.gtou Hirc^t^ SttBnd,
L ' "' a
.ive to state th:it we decline to return i
III which, for any reason, we do not ptint ; I
to i\n0 rule we can make no exi'option.
To all comntunioatiotip should be affixed the name and
address of the setid«r« not neoesiartly for publication^ but
as a guarantee of good f«vith»
:4
m, for
"The
"Th©
ttwida
i^gigi
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
41
iMyooy^ SA r(mnA r, julv i«» i-cj.
CONTENTS. — N- 29,
*KUm" in CliaucftT, 41-Ji*Uli>gi io By-Waj-t. 4i^
9onam»t ltttny«i--**TJia FJower ftu4 the U»*f "— F*ttitr
KamMe's Rftod, 44— The t^owagftr Litdy Tldiboro«— Pope's
]lhjiii«»--Iron Tnsf*— <Oia Hohson'a KplUph— The "Umg"
UlnUfcr^r— Bella, 4:^— MS. Notet in Boolu— The JiquoctilAii
6Uiua la LeloMter ^oara— OftpUlo Baajsmla bUrluj, 4tl,
Qtrr
r
ll
>t«d — lAary i
;:.rtrAlt of h:
crIUb ^plicopal Seex
' — Bdw«rd Klo^ of
^^ H 1 Thiftle— Heraldic -
ir Thcotlore Ttirqaet do
<"i!il!s-."Qiil.l hoc »d
Welsh
iwlUii.
1>iktf ' Ucun&D CnUiulic L^iDdcd LieaLg', temp. Chiirlei IL
milJiiiiitc ti.,4d,
HEPIJXS :— *'T1ie PilfiEim'i Progiw," 4»-Sln8ltt Bre-GlaMei
—fijmm'B *' U^B of CoriDth«" 60— OruiU of NoblUtj Ui
For«kii«n. £1—" A Stick of fieli"— Rogftrth's ** M&rriAiio &
Ift Mod*"— ftUnley of Btrraingbam— Robert do Wydif. rtt^
** BmIi *•— •♦ Neir i J n '^ - Zin K»n 8tr«« t — " BUunte, " :>,^ - FbI-
«6ii^ tJip \rttit -Cray** '* Elegy"^** Topn^raphia Hibcmic*"
of > i^ia— Ediranlc^ of America— Tb«rf'C«ka,
Ai < ly — Pniaciea io Bookj — Th« A lutnLllan
i)t . r Moreton — *' M*ra hLn 5^woitl "—A
*• W*um ror AIoxaj] ? -^jarPort
Tim, A t of tho i>l.i Uw <il
to««*to<t ' i-An Herali i^- — Tlie
Abd til" I logatoun F*njily, 67 - W'liqne—
Fi ;U ad*l«U"— "8* vomu "Z,"
VoIot on Bookit ftc
"KIEE" IN CHAUCBR,
In Todd*a Johnstm^i Dictionnry^ wnder the word
*' Kick," we are told that Chaucer spells the word
^.-. ._ii>:i .1 accordingly, under the same
he J ly, gives a 4Uotation from
ikc i- ... .-> ^ M.. > xuU^\ 6524:—
** T1i»t we n'm kike, for that he saltb as doth/'
T! ling can hardly, I think, have been
^gi* ord by any one who had considered
I i5ait . li I -^^ ^:^ » iier its form or the sense of the possa^^
' in which it oc<;urs.
'kick," with its short i, would Bcem to
\ form kikktn in Etirly Englifih ; but the i
i lon^T iike the tt in it#e/;»
A« to the sense of the word, I think it clear that
' it has nothing to do with kicking, and that if kick
HO* tttbatituted for kike it would not accord with
tkefood wife'i* argument.
Here ia the passage in full ; —
^" A raanj ihal wynue va best with flaterye
And witlt ' and with bisyneaae
' he moore ftod lease
it we luueu beat
» light at Ti leitt
ureue v.t M cioro tioe
wiael jitifj no thyug nieo
Ifauy\si ' * I iwe v« on the «alle
That wu b«« Kaith va sooth
Assnyl hiM± u ..J., ft |j^t SG dooth
ffur be we nt la withlacie
We wol been h : and clene of eynne. '
This is from the EUegmere MS. The five other
MBS, publisher! by the Cliauoer Society give as
follows : —
limfrffrt. " That we nyl likc\ for he seith Vi iooth/'
Cafnbridffe. ''That wo nolde k^fhe for he seyth vi
aoth/'
C<»'ptii. ** ^at we nyl lake or he fiei)i ra sofi."*
PeimorUi. ""^ )>%t we oj 1 /oAie or he saye vs aoih.'*
Zran*dowae^ "' ji^it we a;l /oi:^ or he (i«ls |»t) so^/*
We may dismiss like from consideration ; but
though it may be a inis- writing either of Jtike or
loke, and not a true reading, I think it gives
appmximately the sense of the piisnuge.
Kike (or ktjkt) is evidently the modem ke^
meaning to peep, or look, which is now used only
in Northern speech, a ktck signifying a stolen
glance.
The word accordingly appears as lokf in three
MSS. of the Wi/^ of BtUk'n Tale, and in one of
the MSS. of the Miller"^ Tak (L 3841):—
EUamere, " In to the roof they kiken" ....
Corpva^ *' And to t^a roof Jjay t4}ken,'' , . . ,
The Langdowne is indeed a Northern M8., and
might have been supposed to have been con tent with
kike without trauKUting it into loke ; but l^tkt was
go<Kl Northumbrian enough j and was probably in
the MS. which the Northern scribe took tm \m
original, and in which loki^ had been subgtituted
by a scribe to whom kQce was a less familiiir word*
Now, as to the sense of the word in the passage
before us, what could the Wyf of Bath not mean t
She could not intend to say that tvcr^ woman
would *'kick" every man who would tell her the
tnitli. That was a violent way of enforcing the
liights of Women to which she makes no preten-
sion ! Nor was she likely to use the word ** kick ^
in an Ln transitive sense. It was not a question of
rmjttititj anybody or anything, but of being and
looking pleased or not pJeased.
The sense of the whole paas«^e seems to be
rougldy this : —
** Flattery ia what pleases at all, and with that wa are
casieat limed. HoweT«r froely we loa? lire, wo don't
like bein^ told of it. but Ulie to hear that w«i are vrise,
and no fool9 at alL >Vhy, there '• not a womaa of at bat«
if a man will scratch her where the itohoa ((»rai«s her
for her foible*. T^^'i^taLps<i, will look ely (and {il«'awd)j,
because forvf I Let him try only,
and ho ahaU i iv to please. How-
ever bad we u-fiz, v,c h&j i^ i.u ui>tu^Ut good/*
The " keek/' or stolen glance, implies a certain
cijj -r-^^ ' nod with f'" ■ ' and
iti Tale we i lor
Ui. DttRitan if Bes>eDt*i Park,
NOTES AND QUERIES^ ^^s?nl^vtWmf
JOTTINGS IN BYE WAYS.
V, GEORGE PUTTEN ham's DEFENCE OP QUEEH
ELIZABETH,
Harieian MS,, 831, is a scribe's copy, probably
of the time of James I-, very clearly written, on |
exceedingly good folio paper, and within red
miirginal lines, outride of which ure occasional
pyn optical headings. Its lengthy title in —
"An Apologie or | true defense of ber ^W* hono'^ [ aud
good ronowne iigamst all such | a^ h&iic undiiolie sought
or- 1 shall leek to blemkh the i^amc, ] with any miustice,
crQeltie, or | other unorincely behaviour I in any parte
of her Ma" | proceeatnga againet the | lai« 8<^tiflh
Qneeiie, | Be it for her first Ftirpriace, impriion- ] meut,
process, att- 1 aynder or death.'
** By very flrme rcaaons, auihoritiej, k \ examples,
provcing that her Ma *" hath | done nothing in the said
action a- j gamst the nilea of hono'^ or amie« I or other-
wise, not warrantable [ by the law of God k of ( Man."
''Written by George Puttenfaam lo the j seruice of
her >Ia"* Je for Urge aatia- 1 faction of all such p'aons
both prince: j ly & private, who by ignorance | of the
ca»e, or pariiBllitie of mind | i^hall happen to be irre-
solute I & not well satisfyed in the ] said cause:/**
This political tract hna been taken aa a proof
that George Puttenbam wan the author of The
Arte of Engluh Pouit ; but whether it be a proof
or disproof of this, it was^in i*ccon:Jance with the
words, ** to the seniice of her Ma*^^ "—evidently
written untler authority, and aa evidently, accord-
ing to the French plimse, insj>ired. Hence, and
«a it has not to my knowledge been printed, I
thought that its vei'siori of the Queen's intents in
signing Mary's death warrant, and delivering it to
her secretary , might be acceptable to the readers
of " N. & Q."
Yet may it be truely said k swome
in her behntf and ought to be be-
leived, that her ma*" never abso-
lutely determined her plea«tre in it,
more then by aiibsignation of the said
Trarrant in ^etj^all terraea w"'out
UmiCation of any time in w'*" the feato
ahoald he accompliahed^ and more then the deliu'y of the
same to her secretary to be kept In a readjness k not to
take place before her mn*' Terrall comandcm* giuen for
Ttttificatio[nJ and dispntch of y' same, nor indeed that
her heart could euer be brought to like well of that
course of Jatiice/ nor by any open speeches gaue her
consent to the deed/ nor p'aduenture truer intended to
haue donoj, though for some respects the same ivarr' was
Huffred to pass fru her, to the intent onely oi her Ma'^'
hath been heard oftentimes to say k earnest! ie to p'tesi
that the notice of it to her prioy couosell should satisfy
them and her nobilitie for her steadfast p'eenerance in
that purpose and determination, w*** they had with so
great instance pressed her unto, and that the gcn'all
publication thereof w"'' her Ma^* was not unwilling
shotild be made and brute d abroad, might be a terror to
all her enemies, and an expedient meane to interrupt
and repress ail further dangerous attempts w'^ might he
wrought against her mat^* by the tud Scottish Queenei
favourers in hope of her longer life and aurrivour : by
her Ma** ouer roach lenity and patience, the heat of
her Mn^* indignation as it might be conceaued vt'^ hef
'*The declaration
of her Ma" intent
in signing [y'] de-
livery of her warr*
for the Sk: Qt
txecution
long sufferance by litle k litTe cooleing and declineing tc»
a furgetfollncds of a just reTenge,[.l For cleareing i'
m'^ suspicion it pleased her Ma*'" to condiscend to th
subscription k deliuerie of her warrant and not in trold
that the same should be put in execution, but by ha
further sdvice and privitio, and p*chance not w^'out aonJ
other now causes of danger enforceiag to let it be aceon
plisbed. And so being otherwise used then wua ber Ma
meaueing, it could not for all that—seeme to deserue ai
blame or more to any discredit of her Ma" privic Cou
J cell, who receiving the same warraj
by the hands of her Secrctarie w*'*oa
privie Councell I any such notice or caution, did w^'' all
blameless in the \ dllligence csufo it to be dispatcht for
matter { her Ma** finall security, whereas if
I they shoidd haue used delay by de-
tracting of time^and any euill consequence had happened
the mean while, their loyalty might haue been called in
inestion very detfply:/
[ Now neu'theles how good a sei
h«r Ma*» grief | so euer it Ije likely to prove both
whythcwarr^wu^ her self k the realmc, as all 1
exec u ted so | fai th full subjects, & wel 1 w i < I ers veril
speedily w'^out trusty yet was it 1)cyond all mi
her further 1 offensive to ber Ma"' to baue
advice I speeches k intent so much by
I secretary mistaken, and (as sbee a
ceivoth it) to be so spitefully prcucnted of two notn
purposes w^^ shec htid w"' her self long before, bol
rertuousty and prudently determined. One way
Ridering now by the said Ladies attaynd' and judge i
finiaht and consumate in open p'liam* she had noi
power to make her own peace and safety, so as if sha
found it by any litle debiV to ensue ^hc might make her
mercy most glorious., if efiee found it not likely, that yet
she might ti»e her advantsge at eu'y howra both w"*
bono'' and good conscience. Then agmn by spare in g the
feat some convenient tyme that shce should not a liti"~
gratitie many forrayn princes Ler go<jd neiglibo'
Frkuds who had been earnest suito^* for the said Laii
Life, and in that sort haue temp'ed their stomaciks iti
coroodiously, k re leaned them in uery good amity
opinion by expectation of her Ma'" better favo'^ to
obtained in time, giueiftg the ?aid Princes by her ni\
curteouB k gracious dealcing both Leisure k also g(
cause to search out any betor security for her Ma"' if
had been before time cither offred or devised- For u^
the uttonuost pinch of extremity her Ma"* was right w(
assured thut all y' best offers in any match be comoi
made ^^ not before- so as if upon any such imaginati
her Ma*^** taid accretary supposing p'oduenturc that he
saw further into her dangers than her self did, or then
ber heart falwaics replcniiihcd, with princely to
nanimity) would easily he made a fraid of and thercK
litle more then became him mistrusting sonic routabilil _
of her m*ntl, would secme to conceale from her privy
Councell the verity of his verbal 1 comission rcceiued at
y delivery of the said wairarU t» his kecpeing. it was no
doubt a great ou'^ight in him and in her Ma^'' and privie
councell none at all. vea whosoeucr should be of y*
I mind to think it a fault to be some*
mutabillity | what relenting and as it were irre-
toward mercy no | solute (in the things onely that tea
fault in a prince | to mercy k forgiueoes *) it may ven '
I be reputed a princely default,
such as giueth her Ma'^* great hono'Jk no reproach, s
a p'tc besides in her regaU nature, as her Ma'^" ia i
* B. Chettle, in bis England's Mourning Oa\
writing after the death of Elisabeth, gives her ilmi
praise for her merciful disposition, erring on the side
mercy.
ben
^&IL JoiTlS,7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
43
I po<«d b^rdJj able to reform e in her
Iftir Ma"' ill »b!o | ielf or cuer wilbe during her Life.
to w'SUnd y* pita- i And tbta tbat linth been »aid of her
floa of merej. | Mvk*' iatent may rery well be bekivcd
I and seemc notbinj^untikcly to lucb as
know Ik, he well acquainted w"' hertfrucioujt goinddisposi-
tioiii Mid bow iinde«erTedly iibcc hath nlwftief been enured
w** the gretkt ingratitude of the world, aud the jswecteat
buth iiNo taitvd the bitterest p'te§of Furtuue, that being
now longftioce become oMunitc k eencctes as it
I ftdrersity. yea ao little joying in the transitory
. L.._-. uf tbija world or glory of her crown, she hath l>ecii
heard ofcentimes saye she had resolued w'** her self rather
to hazard her p'*on and state to the
bcr Mm,*' resola- utmost danger w''' p'rer^e Fortune or
tioQ k upon wbfct the malice of the said Lcidio could
•c* work ber y* residue of her time, t^ien
to bereaue ber that poor life of hers
tlM bad so many yeares taken paynes to p'serue from)
other meni aitaulti, and took it for no Hile comfort Ac
jctory to to bauc done. And tliis intent of her Ma"* was
tKjt to dose or secret, but that manyubout berhaue been
made nrqunitited w**" it hr her own re^ll mouth. And
if it were olherwijie k coutd not be witnesied at all (w*^"*
^^ht reasoniiblte haue happened in so weighty a case,
^ttot can worke ber Ma' * any poynt of prejudice whether
' it be Gonfest or denyed) ik were suffi-
I That her Ma"' cient to bu by ber Ma'* own solemne
<><qght to he be- p'testation made in the fear of God,
lerved lonehinf^ and in all truth, princely honor, and
her intent k integritie auerred, and ought right
wherefore well to a«tisSe euery p ticular p'son
remaineing ignorant or unsatisfied of
laer Ma** fucb intent/'
. Brinsley Nicholson.
A POEM, BY MISS CATHERINE FANSHAWE.
PaiMTiri yoR PaivaiB Cihcclatiok.
Th«» poem (5'«»S, i, 364) by W. M. Pmcd, in tbo
ilA&za of which " Harver " la erroneously
for ** Cobbett,'' eug^e^ted the follow iog jcu
'] br MiM Catherine Fanabawe, authoress of
ih on " The Letter H/* so long attributed
Byron. As the veraes have never been
utitislieilf pcrhnpK the editor will allow them a
. in •* N, & Q. ~
•• SrUKCH OF THK MeUBEF. FOR OdIUH.
•• * Sleep, Mr. Speaker, Cubbett will soon
More to abmish the Sun and Moon !*
* Btansas to the Speaker A«leep/
Morning Foil, March, 1S3S.
*Kr. C— b — t a«k'd Icrte to bring in Tery ioon
" *1U1 to abollBh the Sun and the Moon.
I Bouonrab'e Member pr^cetded to atate
p arTTtmeTit^ n^'d in n former dehate.
res. Taxes, Vcxaftonfi,
T' i Old Corpomiiong;—
Tlj. ^,^-.^,--_. 1 , , ..t.ii those upon Earthy
Had, he laid, been corrupt from the duy of their birth,
With irekleiB profusion expending their li^ht,
Onaafitr another, by day and by itiKhL
And what diuses enjoy "d it I The Upper alone—
I7p«>n jtti.b tUcir lind alwayi exclunrcly thone ;
Bti' ever cmittt-d aBjiftrk,
JTc r toil umicrground in the darkf
Tlw rff-iH*? *«T t.ugiand— the Mincriand Borers,
Of Atftb^a hidden treasuret the «kilful explortrrs.
Who furnish, by grubbing beneath like the mole,
All the Iron und Copper, the Tin and the Coab
But their minds were enlightening ; they leam*d cir'ry
hour
Tliat dbeufcftton ie knowledge, and knowledge u power.
Long humbled and crufih*dj tike a Giant they 'd riiOi
And Dweep off the cohweba that darken the ^krei ; *
To Sun^lune and MoonBhine their duties assign,
And claim enual rights for the Monntain and Mine,
Turn to other departments— High time to Inquire
What (ibuaei exiflt tn Air, Water, and Fire,
— Why keep up Volcanoes? that idle display.
That Pageant, waf all mighty well in ita d»y.
But the reign of Utility now bad cominenc*d,
And WiBdom with such exhibitions dispeni'd.
When »o many were atarifing with coM, it was cruel
To make inch a watte of gQc^d fire und fyel.
As for Nature— how little experience had taught her
Appeared in the adtntntstration of wnter
Was Bo noble a Ca^iital duly employ 'd.
Or Wft« it t»7 few (if by any) enjoy 'd1
Ponr'don marahesand fens^ which were better without,
While paiture and arable pcriflh'd for drought.
When flagrant injuttice bo often o«€ur«,
Abler handa must be wanted, and purer^ than bersu
Not to Bpeak of old Ocean's intatiable needi.
Or of Sca« so ill-plough'd they bear nothing but wced«.
— At Bonie future day he perhaps Bhottld be able
To lay tlie details of their cost on the T<iblo ;
At present, no longer the Home to delaint
He ^d confine hiB remarks to the subject of Rain.
Wa* it wanted 7— A more economical plan.
More equally working, more ueeful to man.
In this age of improtcraent might surely bo found.
By which all would be sprinkled, and none would Ik:
drown'd.
He would boldly appeal to the Nation'i good senBe|
Kot to sanction this useless^ enormous expense.
If tho Wind did but Hhift,— if aCload did but lower,^
What millions of Kaindrops were spent in a Shower !
Let them burst through the Bbackles of wind and of
weather^,
Do away with the office of Rain altogether.
Let the whole be remodelled on [trinctples new^
And consolidate half the old Funds into Dfte.
Less than half was sttJficient ; the surplus applied
To Ste:am and Canals, would for Commerce proride.
What on Earth could be wanted that Dew would not
gi«1
Bafreshment and food for all creatures that Uve,
Just moisture enough to promote regetation.
And supply the demands of this Tiist population ;
For warmth would consummate whnt Dew had begun,
When Olonds would no tonijser offuacate the 8un.
Ho hop*d that the House a few minutes would spare
While he ofTer'd Bome brief observations on A%r.
To plain statements he mu$t their attention be«>eech,
For be never had yet in his life made a speech.
Air caird for his censure, nor should it escape,
Tho* skill'd to elude any tangible shai«.
Not the Sun, nor the Moon, nor Earth, Water, or
Pire,
Not* Tories themsekes when with TVliigi they conspire ;
Nor Churchmen, nor Statesmen, nor Placemen, nor
Peers,
Nor the Emperor Paul, nor the Dey of Algiers,
Were half so unjust, so despotic, so bUnd*
** Old Woman, Old Woman, whither bo high !
To sweep the Cobwebs off the Sky,
And I will be with you agiiin by and bye.*'
44
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[5**S.lLJiri.tl8,74
So 6f%f to the cric« and the claitnii of mankind,
An Air »iid hf* vrJckrd Prime M^n^^tc^, Wind—
Goet forth the Despoiler— coTi^ummi? the rfttiuiif,
I)e!«iirnM for the hmga of uu ' utions.
Whf t a vMtc ot the Elcmci t itorra !
At.il ftU thiB <^arried en in tl Keform !
Hnil, Li([htniiMr» and Thunder in Vulkys and Peals,
The TropicB are trctiibling, the Universe reels !
Ocrtre Whirlwind and Hurricane, Tcnipcsta. Toraadoea,
Woe, woe to Antigua, Jamaioo, Barbodoes t
rianUtiofii uprooted, and Sugar dUsolvM,
Rum, Coffee, an^l Spice, \u one ruin iutoWU
And while the Caribbee* were ruin'd and rilled,
Not> breete reach'd Guiana, and England waa itifled*
The quality bad, and the quiintity bare,
Our Liff 's ppf nt in taking or changing the Air !
Bate all that exists at its pmctical worth.
'Twaa a •yitem of Humbug from HcaTcn to Earth !
Tbese abuses routi ceaee — they had loxtrd too lorifTi
Was there anything right f— was not eTerything wrong 1
The Crown wa» too cortly, the Church wa« a ctirac ;
Old Parlinmentfl bad, Reform'd ParliamcuU worw»
All rcTenu^B iil-mDnng'd, all wants ill-provided.
EqunliiT, Liberty, Justice, derided—
But the People of England no more would endure
Any remedy short of a Ra4ioal Cure.
Ififitmrted, united, a Nation *if Sages
Would look with contempt on the vi»dom of agee^
Provide ft-r the world a more just Legislature,
Aiid impose ao Agrarian Law upon Nature."
W. M. M.
Macaulat : Spenser : BinfYAK. —
**One unpardonable fault, the fault of fedionsneWj
perradee the whole of the Faery Queen, We become
gick of cardinal Yirtuea and deadly ei^^ and long for the
fociery of plain men and women. Of the personi who
rciid the first canto, not one in ten reaches the end of the
first book, and not one in a hundred perseverea to the
end of the poem. Very few and Tcry weary are tboae
who are in at the death' of the Blatant Beaut.** — Lord
Macaulay, Eituyt, ** Buoyan,"'
When I flnt took tip The Faery Queen, I read
it, to the excluBton of all otber books, from be-
ginnin*? (^ onH and within six months I had read
it thr* "1, loving the poetry, and wholly
inatt-er: hf> alleg^ory. But I was not " in at
the denfh of the Bktant Beaat*' The last thftt I
re^l of him was —
" So now he mnireth throujth the world agaio^
Ard r«?eth •ore in each degree and state t
N*: . him now re«trjtin,
F at and itrf«nK of late,
Bin ^ 1 11 t but htm ♦lo hate,
A I be they w< I r ir clear of crime ir
Ke opareth h* o(\ wit* to rale»
No Bf anrth he ihe ^'cnue poet'a rime.
But retida without regard oi person or of time.*'
Ftitry Qm«n, bk« vt, c. xlL •. 40.
I iiiti ' d to riccept Macfliilny a« a fi^ide
tf> r<" I iry. In hifl essay on Milton he
aji ; —
♦ W itffficlT r-ntild we enter into a detailed eiaminatinn
<- ^'Oi^m, the Paradise Repatntd,vih%cht
h -.^ ecarcely erer mentioned e accept aa an
u u.. iudneM of that parental affection which
Tn*n of Icttem b'ar townrda fbe rfftnrinp of their in-
tclleote. Tbat Milton was mlitaken in preferring (hia
workt exrctlrnt ss tt it* to the l^arndUn Lmt, we t»rj«
readily admit But we are rure tbut tlic superiority <
the Paradtfiii Lo»t to the Parudhe liri/tttutd i? not mor4
decided than the Koptrrority of the / < ' "'
to every poem which hni since niiidc it
And this wua written in 1&25 ! 1'*;. ujrtvi:
Garriik Club*
"Tafi Flowkr AKD THE Leaf/*— In < '
formerly, though wronj^ly, attributed tf
is a passage which br' '.tie it« date : —
•' Bke there be kn f the partof
That t/t Aer tirui .... ..^:.i worthily.*'
L- 520» Fh'Wtr and LtaJ^ Aldine ed., ir. 104.
Thjit is, in thtir tinu^ these knights of old dii
right worthily long duys agone, loDg before thj
irentle lady told their famous story in the bower 1
But, at the date of our legend ^ eadi old knight's
" bone^ are dtist,
And hia good sword ruat ;
Eia aaul is with the eainta^ I tmat.**
" Knighles old * ' must mean time-honoured ]
of the garter," or " knights of the time-ho
institution of the garter," but not " aged kni^
for the chief of the original knights (whOi^
have been referred to if the poem waa
about 1476), the Black Prince, died before he vrt
t\ " knight old " ; neither he nor his fellows U, '/J
Sir W. Manny) were (by being **lrni^ht^fi old
incapacitated from doing " right worthily/* Btl
it is plain that this line can only me>an, *' th<ff
were also those knights of old of the garter^ '
fathers of the order, who, in their time, in i '
of King Edward of famous memory, per
braTe deeds in France and Scotland.**
Cleiirly, " old " refers to the compamtiv
antiquity of tl ' of the Garter
cording to TA? ffvme) it was * ll
in i34JJ ; accor'iirv^ in >ir John Froiasari ^\i>i. i.|
p. 125, ed. Johnea, 1839), about 1344 (John
gives a list of the original knights).
If Chancer (or any one else) wrote The Fh
and the Ltaf about 1374, i. <f,, thirty years aft^
the " knightes old " had been made an onler, id
what sense could he have meant these lines to havf
been understood ? In none, for they would hav
had none ! So we must either condemn |x>or olci
Ueoflrey as having written nonstiuc (the knightJ
eoter, be it remarked, with the " Bouze Paif»|
and Arthurian knights !)» or, less improbabljn
dude that this poem wha written about a hu
years after the time of the knighta old, wheii^
the doers and the deeds were reiisonably iintiq
Harold LrrrLKDAfS
Father Kemblets HA?rD.— To ** N. & O/* th^f-
have been many contributions regarding tk«^ han«
of Father AjTowMiiith, who wa« executed in Mm
chestej in the reign of Que(?n Eliwibeth, aod of til
cures performed by it to thi^ Hay. fn a '
called 7' ' * ,
i^lLU.J«ul8,7«.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
45
Kerablcs^':—
liT^Hi. liiiclt tjf tUti present Ur. Jolin KembTe vtm
Priect. in ihc reifr^i of CharloA the Vint. lUi
I "' re tiled fttiil bnngtid. The place
% is na*w a race-uround, mul wtks
i> , . . Uia hiu\d woji cut off, itnd
r. i'l^etuiirt K, A rcupeotibiQ Romftn CaihoUCf
TtiiW of the town, iwid ti c¥eti in these e»i-
dujj emplojed . , . . to touoh wenff, lores, Jtc.
. . hope tbAl H poflHSfeWt Hupematunii
Bl no Life of the ^ijeai John Kemble that I huve
Men have I met this jmecdote. Where ia itm hmxd
Father Keinble now \
>liiCRicE LsNtaAjr, M.R.LA.
; DowACiEE Lady TicHBORWis,— Scmie time
k^ i' Sir Alfred IHchbome^ hut before
ir OrtoQ ckimiog to be Sir Roger
De litui exotted any mtere^li a «a]e took
^ n lo( of miscellADeoua ellectfi at TicbborDe
wh ich wero leTcni reUgiovM hooka,
• FrcDch Jangiiage» manj of thctn
uiy itchbome's autograph and mujr^noJ
Soiae of the^o book« were descriptive of
rine of the Virgin of Lourdoa and other
I pUgrimage ptao^^f, and tho ootids in Lady
Eio'a writing pbiinly showed how she ex-
i niinKulous iuteriwsition of the Viiyin in
lint of her )K)D. The books in qtaeslion
I parehiifed by the propnetor of an old book-
High Street, Porturiiouth^ opposite the
» to C^uii bridge B:u-r.ick8^ but were esteemed
v;diie and sold for :i few pence each. 1
dlxf^TK iber the notes on tho Shrine of the
Vii^w '.:» us i^Lriking ine at the Ume as
iwn T^sskAikMhie^ ei^|>eciully in oonnexioa with the
Viu-lciioirii events tlmt followed. The books in
^ttHion 1 fear h^ve beeo loof dispeivai and lost.
p€irm*B Rhihum.— To looking throogb Pope's
Stmjf and Satires, I hiive been ft truck with the
miBuer of rby tnes that, to our earv, seem cKsentiiilly
^ttltj, I uuftp^ct that be often made his rhymes!
ptif|Knrljr iniu^nnito, for varicty'a ?Ak<?. If not.
tfti|ltwitimciaii(in of many worda mn^t have greatly
<iM|gefl sbce his days. In two instances the
illiBBiioe hi strangely remarkable (Em. M., Ep. i.
♦•TWrt Ihjit and rea-on. Tkhat a nrco barrfer;
Pur «iP«r iBpante, yet fi»r erer near ! **
(Jf^wwl BumfM, Ep, ii. I 111) :—
'T1i«^litT Anodjne, and n'ghtly Dnuiiht,
1V» Ipdl llaaw fo«i to fair ouot^ Time tkoA Thouerht.**
& T. 9
kTMxbs. '^ ■ ■- -1 aloe or agavr, palnte<i
aa acl^ : suooeaa. Bttch pdantf^
dullest and most prosaic of hotel*, and it has
occurred to me that the idea might be usefuUy
developed in rows of iron fan paJma (Palmyra), and
other suitftble trees for the purpose, on those snn-
etrickcn promenades at favourite wutering-plaoe«.
where the natural tree refuses to ^ow ; as, for
instance, at Brighton. From one giX>d model,
avenucH of such trees might bo produced tit HtUe
cmty and if manufactured carGl\iily« with i^ good
effecL a
"Old Hobson's Epitaph.** — ^
** Here Rolinon lies among his insny betterv.
Alii ' ~C'd, yet a man of Letters;
LI i LS well known* oft bath he gona
In I vvix-t father and tho fon :
Tiict« 'n UVM ill Camhridgt^ to his pruiso belt spoksa^
Kui may remember hiniby eonie good Token*
Fr«>iii ub«(]ce he rtd to LoudoH day by day.
Till <lcatb beiiighting him, he lost bis w»y :
Hia Team wns of the hett. nor would h© haw
Been mir'd in aay vmy but in tho grave.
Nor ia't a wonder thtit he thiut it goOf
Since all men know, he long wa^ dmivingoo.
lima rest in pence thou everlasting Swain,
And Suprcun Waggoner, next Charla hia wain.*
The above is Epitjiph Ko. 149 in Witt's E<€rta-
tiont! (or Bccrmtion, for Ingtnious Htad-Picets)^
1667. The same book contains four other hii-
QiorouB epitaphs on tlie carrier (Koe. 63-6).
J. E, Baiu&t.
The "Brao •* Mr?fisTRY, — In turning o^^r the
leaves of an old Election ScrA|>-Book, I h;iv<? found
the following, which will prolnibly be new to moift
people :—
'* The T^Iinintrj which was formerly called the Caha^
received its name from tho initials m ita leading menft*
ber« forming that word : and it w a fsct no lees ilnimlar
than true thut the initials of the lesding members of the
preeeot admiaisiratiori—
B roughani,
EusscJl,
A Ithorp,
Gi-ey,
form the appropriate word Brag t By traxuposmg the
urraii(;emetit they make Garb I and by another trsns-
peaitton, Qrah /"
The writer then goe« on to prove, or attetapi^to
prove, the Utness of the name to the ministry of
1831 ; but with his arguments I will not tromUc
yon. The name of the newsDamtr from which ih«
[Mkragmph is cut is not recoraed. A. R.
CroeiwyUtt, Oswestry.
Bells.— The bells of St. Martin's, Bpaom, bear
th** following imcriptions :~
1. Tbomns Jnjiaway, of Cbebcik, fecit 1781, Muika ««t
mentis nvedicinii.
2. Although I am bat tmidl, I will be heard above ibcm
nlL
$. John Siiirt ^wA John Carter, Cluiinslmar^us, lf8l«
I. Jubn l^hclps Buuie me, 1714.
U. hhuu
«'. Thotniui Swaine made me, 1700L Jolm WMfbM
46
NOTES AND QUERIES
l^B,tLJttrn,*H,
7. Rifrliurd Pliclps tnmle me, 173S. Williiioi Hoftre and
JoflhuiL C)ti«ntiJilatu» Cliurcbvirairilciia.
8. St mud Knij^ht made mo.
In tho Beventh yeur of Edward VI. there were
only four bells *' roruEiining iii their (the church-
wardcDs*) charge to the kinoes iise/'
Gbo. White.
St. BriaTel*8, Epaom.
MS. Notes in Books.— L In Buhop Buniei's
Uutory af His (htm Time, folio edition, vol i.,
|i724 ; vol. iL, 1734 ; immediately following the
rtitle-|)agi© in vol. u is thia *' Advert Laeni en t to the
Eeader":—
" The Editoni of the following Ilbtorj int«Dd, for the
. fi&tisfaction of the FubHck, to dep^osite tbe Copy from
' wliich it it printed (corrected and interlined in many
places with the Author* own H&nd) in aoHie pubMck
Library, as loonas the §eeond volume ehallbe publiahedM."
And on the verao of the title-pa<:ye of vol. ii,,
with reference to the above advert iseiiient, h this
MS. note, within a spiace surrounded by red
printed line.** : —
"The oripnal raanufcript of both Tolumea of thi.^
Hiitory will be deposUed in the Cotton Library bv
•* (Sigurd) T. Burnett." (iic.)
The Editor, according to the title to the life of
the author (end of vol. iL), was Thomas Burnet,
Esq. Qiierif--Wtis. the MS, deposited in manner
AS above recorded /
2. Opposite to the title-psige, in a copy of lite
I Tryal of Dr, Henry Sai^hererril he fore the Roiise
cf Pecm, for High CrhntJi ami iMindemeanours^
upon an Impeacfunevt htj the KniffhU^ Citlxtm
and Bntgesae^ in Parliament Assevibkd^ folio^
London^ 1710, printed by Ton»oD in pursuance
of an onier of the House of Peers, is tlie following
MS. note, viz.: —
" Thu Hooke belongs to Thonuu D'Aeth, m be bad the
honnor to be a Membir of that Hoiue of Commons ai»d
Vote (nc) in thU imp^achnient.
*' (8igncd> Tho^ D'Aeth.^'
Crescent.
Vfifflbledon.
Thk E<jtrBsTttiAN Statue ik Leicester
Square* — It has never been decided whom this
piece of sculpture represented, whether George I.,
George 11.^ or the son of the latter king, William,
Duke of Ciiiuberland, who waa bom in Leicester
Fields. As it hiwi now for ever disappeared from
its accuatomcd feite, and will never more be a
scandal to the ** great world of London '^ in the
eyes of Englishmen jiud foreigners, It may interest
someone to know that when Wyld'B " tjrreat Globe"
ooctipied the Square, the figure was, with ita
pedoatai, buried several feet deep beneath the spot
on which it had dways stood. When the " Great
Globe" waa removed, the statue was disinterred
and FB-erccted, " very little the wot^e for its »ub-
terranean obacurity," so I am told by a gentleman
who was one of Mr. Wyld'« Ethnojogical Lecturers
at the time. My infornmnt further tell* me th
Mr. Wyld himself wsis most anxious to linve tlj
figure removed to ii place of .'wfety ; but that f
could obtain permission to erect his '* Ctreat G\u\m
only on the condition of his not removing tlj
statue from its original site ; hence the expedic
which he resorted to.
My ethnological friend tells me alilt» thai oae i
his ct»-lecturer8 and ''demonstrators" wus
Shirley Brooks, a fact in that lamented gentlcmaQ
histoiy which is, I tx^Ueve, ** not genendly knowt
S- E. T0WN8HEND May mi. |
Richmond, Surrey.
Cai»tain Bknjampn Stareet. — As a cont
porary with Umbrella Harvey (mentioned 5**» S.
485), j>emut nie to introduce to your readers
ejttroordinary and well-known chamcter to
natives of Newcastle-upon-Tyne sfjcty years ag
who was said in early life to have been the hn
person who introduced and wtis accustomed to 1
an umbrella in the streets of that town. The Otpta _,
was a small man, whom I well remember, alwajj
dressed in a well-worn long coat ; he was of son
what pompous manner, very polite, and unusuall
partial to borrowing wixpences, wliich, of cour
were never intended to he repaid, Starkey caLlo
upon a merc^hant one day with his u^ual reuneil
^"^ My dear sir, will you kindly oblige me with tli
loan of sixpence l " — " Well, yeB, Mr. Starkey,"
the reply ; ** but 3'ou must give me your promiK^oij
note for the repayment." — " Cenainly^my dear f *
with the greatest pleasure in the world," The pw
misBory note was drawn, duly signed, and the mon^
paid (for he wrote a fine, bold, free, commerci
hand, and was not deficient in abQity). Tli
Captain then made his bow with many thanls
A week had scarcely elapsed before our friea
again made his appearance ; but before he
make hia request known, Mr, C addr
him, — ^* Punctual man, Mr. Starkey ; 1 see vc
have come to redeem your Dromissor)' note.^'-
*' Excuse me, my dear friend, 1 have not forgott
it, I only called to in<[uire after your healtb ; gc
morning," After two or three attempts, witn
better result, the Captain's calls ceased,
note was kept as a curiosity. The life of thl^
singular character, said to have been written
himself, was published. About the smnv tiuu
Mr, H. P. Parker, an artist of eminent
his famous local picture of T}t4i Eccentrit *
of NttvemlU^ which waa afterwards engraved,
consisted of more than a dozen full-length Hgur
showing, as far as a painting could, all the pecti
liarities of the peraons portrayed. Amongst the
Captain Starkey appears ; an admirable likene
ivs were all tho others. Why the Captain had na
succeeded in life, with his ability and fine hand
writing, I never learnt. iT, B. P.
Barboumef Woroeater.
i
Hit IP, 74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
47
ttuflt requeft eorrcflpondents dcmrin^ information
rty hiiiUqtv of onlj private interest, to aiBz their
and uddfcam to their qaeries, in ord«r that the
f, Mtukj b« Addntttd to them direct.]
^PkiiiAVii70s. — I lately picked up two old
KOgBf ooncernmg whicU I am demroua of
3ig the names of the artist and engraver,
»f publication, and uny other partictilars.
Mgins have been completely cut away. The
has assumed^ I suppoBe from a^e or neglect,
I brown tint Bize of each, M)out nixteen
long by fifteen inehea high. No* L A
Q in a famj-hoiiae^ with some of the family
round a table, enjoying a meal of sooie kind
idge. A man with cropped head, stout Ieg9»
Pfect, is busily employed with a howl and
IpAted beside him is a young woman
B^ on her knee ; the child boldij h spoon,
woman » the gnindmother probcbly^ is
p milk out of a jug, or jar^ into another
A shock-headed fellow stands in the back-
I, busy with bowl and spoon. An elderly
its at, or rather on, one end of the table, and
ently tnakinj,' some pleitsant speech to the
woman opposite. A large hound aita imder
ble close to the satyr's legs, and a oock h
I on the window shutter, inside the room,
upper right-hand comer. No, 2, The same
r scene, but with a different set of persons.
tjT, who now is well bearded, is standing,
apset his chair, and is addressing the
, who evide-utly listen to him with attention,
mid and cock are both larger than in No. 1,
e hitter h perched on the top of a wicker-
ajm-chair, in which an old wouian sits ; a
Died girl, wearing a high crowned hat, and
f a pitcher under her arm, leans against the
titf with her back to a lattice window.
»wi]|£ in l>oth h moat life-like, and the
iiig adjnimble. W. H. Pattkrson^
\mstr £kolish Episcopal SEKa.— In the
lie of a decree of Aethelheard, ArclibiBhop
which is dated a.d. 803, ktely
I'Pahcogmphic&l Society, I notice
* op describes himself as *^ archi-
mU civitatisJ' Will any of
nts be 80 good as to inform me
bbiflhops of Canterbury ceased thus
^th^ir see I
her bishops subecribing the same docu-
[''legorensis civitatis episeopus" and
k ciTitAtia epiiicopuB,'^ What were the
m^ blflhopd t There are also ** syddenKi^
5^ " *' scirabumcnsiti civitatis epis-
! ecclesice episeopus." Am I
bppoimg lucse bishops to bo the bishops
ictrrtgr, Sherborne, and Sehea?
It may be well to add that the other subscribing
biahops are the bishops of Lichfield (who siguB
next to the Primate), of Worcenter, of Hereford,
of Winchester, of Ehnham, of London, and of
Rochester. (L D. W. 0.
Authors Wanted. — I shall be glad to know
where the following lines may be found in the
literature of tlie seventeenth century ; also to be
favoured with some reference to where I can lind
not ices of the personages whose merits and de-
merits are so characteristically depicted by the
author :—
" When York to Heaven shall lift one •olctnn eye,
And love bi« wife beyond Adultery,
Whea Godltnew to (jain shall be prefer'd
By more thttn two of the Right KoTerend Herd,
When Pa Her ihall pronounce upriKht decrees.
And Nun^erford refaM his double fees,
Wh«n bonent Prke Bhall trim and truckle under,
And PoicU give a Charge without h blunder,
When Piuff one tinge r free from bribery shewi,
And ForUsfue deserves a better ho«e,
When £tfert hia haughtiaess shall lav aside,
And Tracy*i fOul in peneroufl «ct4^ taJte Pride,
VVTien Prat with Patience sball dispence the L&ws^
And Kinrj chall partially decide one cauce,
Then will I cease my Charmer to adore
And thiciJc of Lore and Politicks no more."
T. W. W. S.
*' And wonderli) with a face of foolish proiio.'*
Sam. M. Hahrison.
A hidy of eightv-eight has these lines on a
watch running in lier head. Can any of your
correspondents help her to the rest of the words ? —
'' Little monitor, from thee
Let me leara what I ihoald be."
z. z.
**ThKRE 18 NOTHIKa so SirCCKfiSKUL AS 8U0CK8S."
— I have beard it attributed to Napoleon I.
IT N EDA,
Philadelphia,
Mary op Bl'ttermeiie-—! have hunted in vain
through uH the vohimeH of ** N. & Q.'* for some
account of this popular heroine of our youth.
Antecedently to experience it is incredible that
she should not be mentioned in your pages. I am
desirous to know (1) what her real name was ;
(2) when did she die ; (3) did she marry again ;
(4) are any of her family still ut Buttermere ? De
Quincey's account seems to 1m? the only one easily
accessible. It occurs in the seajnd volume of hia
works. The Jit4^oUfeiions of the Laka. He, how-
ever, does not tell what Wordsworth does in his
Prelude^ B. 7, where he mentions that "Mary**
had a child, and that it died. Any particniars
would greatly oblige FiTZ Hkoinald.
Edward Krsfo, of '^Lycidab": Portrait ok
StiELLBY.— Can any one infonn me if there exists
any portrait, psiinted or engraved, of Edward King,
the Ljeidaa of Miltoti's poem ; and if ihefe exist
sueh, where it is to be seen or heurd of? A\&>^
where the fullest account of hiii cbnmcter and life
And appeamnce is to be found ? I am aware of
t.be information to be derived from Thomas War-
ton's unequalled edition of Milton's P*y€v^s on
Swertd i)€C(motis^ 1 70 1 ^ and other dates. I also
wieh to know if there is any engraTO<i ]>ortmit of
Shelley of a aiite larger than those prefixed to most
tH^itions of hia poems. I have inquired hitherto
without saocetSy but perhaps ^ K. & Q.*' can help
me. H. S. Skipton.
Exeter Gollego, Oxford.
MARLBonouoH Familt PicTURB. — In whose
po«i!*ession is the large picture of the Marlborough
lamUy, painted by Cloaterman about the beginning
of the hist century, in which were represented the
Duke of Marlborough (in a corner behintl a thin
curtain)^ the Duchess, their Ron, the Murf^uit? of
Blandford, and their four daufjhters i This picture
13 mentioned by Boyer, in hia History of Qit4^:n
Anjif. The Dudiesa, it seems, havin)^ been told
of m cftrcittb remjirk made upon it by the Countess
of DorchiiteT, wished to have her own figure
rubbed out, and a flower-pot placed instead of it ;
but at last she resolved to leave the picture on
Mr. Clostenuan'a hjuids, which he took so much
to heart that lie went melancholy mad and pined
aw»y, Geo. Cleohorn.
D&URT HousK, — I suppose that the Drury
Hiovue, where the ^'Committee for the s&le of
sequeilarated lands " sat durinj; the Commonwealth^
was the one in Beech Lanet Barbican, The house
was cither built by, or belonged to, Sir Drew
Drury, and Prince Rupert resided there. I shouM
be glad to have further authentic particulars about
thia houae. Cunningham only slifrhtly mentions
it* I should also much like to know whether there
ia any print of it, t^mp. Charlon I, or IL Did the
house hdong to Rupert when it was sequestrated
bf the Parliament? Henrt W. Henfrey,
$, Queen Anne's Oate^ 8*W.
Tms, Blssssi) TaisTL«.—Iii Switzerland the
Omrduu* B€al%i9, or Biased TkisiU, ia said to have
obi»tn«d its white marka from the droppings of
Hhi Vir^'s milk. la thia legend known in other
parts? A* McRirniajf*
Hi£BALDia — A (entitled to be&r arms) leaves a
Hon, B, and a daughter, 0. B marries^ and has an
only daughter and heir, D, whose children are of
courae entitled to quarter their mother's arms.
C also marries and has children. Can the chUdren
of C, Jiftcr the death of B, also quarter their
mother'ti arms, or do the heraldic honours descend
to D.'s children only 1 E.
Baooms anp Powell FAmxtvsL — Can any
^genealogical atudent point out whether any, and if
an*
i
any, what connexion exists between the family
of Brooke^ of which Dr, Zachars' Fninlr who waa
elected Margaret Professor at V [ n ^sm-
uary, 1705, was a member, an uiily
PowclJ, many mem bets of whtoh are buned in
so-called Huguenot churchyard at Wandsworth
B, P.
Sir Throdore TtrRQirrT r>E MAvru^jF —I
shall feel much indebted to nny per III
tell me what were the arms borne by tli i t ed
phyRician, Ralph N. Jaxbs.
Ashfgrii, Ktnt.
LoKDOK CoatPANixs, OR GiTiLDS^^ Where oan I
find the datea of their faundotion? R. W. F,^
" Qri» HOC AD Tphtcu doves."— From whenoa
comes this proverb T It is used by Scott in the
novel of Ktnilwortk^ chapter ix. Erasmus doe*
not jjivc it in his Adaguu The oxen of Iphyclus
are mentiotned in the Odyssty, H. C
W. W. Story, the sculptor, and author of thi|_
exquistte k>ok of poems entitled Orn '!u
Has iherre beien a portrait publi^^hcd o;
man ; if »o, when, where, and price ? uko ol Jie
Perkina, of Haaworth Fjirk, the Bibliophile I
GlBH
Wrlss Slaths.— The names given to the Vi
nbxM of slates in Wales are queens, duchesses,
QOtmtessee, ladies, &c. ; and I aoe, by a newspaper
cutting of 1839, that these n.imes—
'' Drew frotn the iwn of the Into Mr. Lejcasler, wh»
WM tuaajr years « j<*d^o on tho \XAah Circuit, » refy
wittj poem, ef which ihe following Imoi will w^rr^ ia •
Bpt^etiueii : —
* Tbi* eomteH or >m17. thouf^b crowris may be prMeni*
Snboiiti t» to dreoed bv the haadi of a pcMuit ;
And you'U Me, whon her grmco U hut odco in Ills
dutches.
With howr little rcapoct ho will handle a duchrts.' "
Will any one kindly give me, through the
medium of " K. & Q,," or direct, the whole of the
lines? A. E.
Croeawjlan, Osweetiy.
Lord GoLLiirowooD. — Neither in l%t. ExUntot
Furag^ nor in Tk* Landtd Gentry can I fisid aii7
afiooiant of the near relatives of the heroic admiral
He had & aiater named Sarah, who married a
^ntleman named Barker. Can any of the readern
of " N. ^ Q.** afford information on thia Hubject 1
Q.
Mart SoKBRTmLS.— In the Prr^^-^"^ J^rr^J.
Z^diotit of Ihui Admirable lady,ut p. 1
ahe tpeikkii of the DtffrrrnL, a Oilr
•* now sitpoisoded by 1 1
to be infomied what !<ii
If the referencp is to the new Algebra four
ProfeasorB OfiyJey and Sylvester, and ex[»
by Dr. Salmon, I see no senae in ih^ remark. B^U
|P8.11JirMl!i,I4.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
49
iiasurpdljr Mrs. SomerviUe was not a person to
write noniienic on any maihematicftl (|U&stioo.
Jadez.
Aibeiueuni Ctub.
'* Thb Milleknium/'— Cttii you mform mo who
tf the author of thij^ dramatic poem, 1847, by
•*0[oicron/' author of EUmJtnts of Truths Paulus,
Pfid/t and Prejudk^r &c, J 11. Ihglis.
Proat, Verb Nkijteiu —
h€t not lii now be like inllen chickeoE, whkh tit
. ttig antier A rottt^n hed>(e^ or priMtuut under an old
VQod'pilo, when the hen calleth them. ""Thomas FuUer,
A C^mmtni on. Ruth (1030-1), p, HI. ed, ISSb.
What is the exAct meaning of the verb praat^
And what ia its etymology ? F. H.
Jd&rUiford.
RLTF^T WooDcrr WITH a Bati, — What is
of the woodcut in the Bibliothetiue de
-ne In Briias^lB, which bears tlic date 1418 ?
H. FisnwicK, F.S.A.
HoMAjr Catholic Laxdkd Okntrt, temt.
Cbarlbs II. AtTD James IL— Can yoa ^ve me
an-' '•■♦'^-"Tition re^pectinff the property held by
i\ Ciitholic hmded gentry about the time
*'y^ IL or Jumes IL / In what counties
v. most numerous, or held the KToatesit
qi if land? Is there any book published
vbjoh givea an account of them at that time ?
''THE PILGRIM'S PR0GUB8S.*'
(5»J» S. ii. 8.)
AmoAgit the numerous adTaniages which
■*H. h i)/* offers to literiiry students, there i»
cicwj which ia very liable to abuse — I mean the
^pr..r. ,,„ f,. ..♦*•., rded for resuscitating old and
1 > from the limbo of oblivion, and
pi\.., I info a temporary vitality. One
«jcli II II the number quoted above.
It uri;» inoQvmous persi>nha3 writtea
('- ' to a clergyman convey log the
V nation that a cert^iin Miaa C
hn^ publt»b»_*d a tmn^liition, for private circulation^
* from a Prt-nrh My>, copy in the British Museum
t*( "j£ of fhf .Sf*>ir^?, by Guillaume de
<• md that "her object in publish-
in^ li' J i; is to phow that Bunyan't
Ptlfr\7H*^ ' tienrly rtrhiUim a copy of
ihia rare v. ' sv alterations here and
IhcTv to ^n ori;jjinality,"
1 car: - r ^^vper —
" ') ' i wbo knowi no bettor
1 ,V |K» l-.»i^..
Must L
T]i9 ftory on the iuw ui ii ia idlo^tkei aboard*
Seeing that the work in question wa» ttansl tted
into English and t^rinted by Caxton in 1483, ope
cannot understand why Mi^ C should have
given hen^elf the trouble of again translating it,
particularly as her laudable dcaign of proving
Bunyan a plagiarist was to be limited to a ** private
circulation.®
This wretended discovery is raereljr the revival
of an ola fallacy which has been again and again
disposed of.
Dr. Dibdin, in his Typographical AniiquUiu
(vol. L p. 153), called attention to this volume,
'' an ejctraordinary production, which, pe^ha^>s,
rather than Bernard's liU of Matt, laid the founda-
tion of John Bunyan's PUgrim'^ Progress." The
learned Doctor apparently meant nothing more
than that the idea of an allegory of the Christian's
pilgrimage might (though very improbably) have
been suggested by the book in question. The
assertion that the Pilgrittis Progress is copied
nearly verbatim from De Guilleville's work can
only be accounted for on the charitable supposition
that the anonymouH MissC-^ had never read
Bunyan s immortal allegory.
Any person who ia curious on the subject will
find the whole matter set out ut length in Otfor's
edition of Bunyan's works (vol iii*, p. 33), where
an analysis of the French work, with copiuUH
extmcts, is given, which demonstrates thjit there
is no founi£ition whatever for the charge of.
copyism or phigiarism. The basis of the older/
work vi the adventures of the soul after death La^
purgatory and hell, with angels and penonifiedl
attributes for the dramatU fttrsona. The drift of
the two works in utterly diseimilar.
In the last number of " N. & Q.'^ (p, 39) a letter
is inserted copied from the Cruardiati, written by
the Rev. W, J. Stracey, in which the ground is ,
somewhat changed. It now appears that it ia not'
the Ptfltp-itiuige of iht HovpU but Lt Pchrinagt d»\
V Homme which is to prove Buoynn a pln^arisL I
Mis3 U ia turned adrift, with the remsrk that j
" to look for coincidences between the P^rimag^A
of ifie Smde and the Pilgrim'^ Progrun is usetei^ J
as the latter enda where the former begins."!
Would it not have been as well to have ascertained J
this before nishing into print with so serious a
charge against Bunyan as that of "nearly ver-
batim ** copy ism \
The Book^ of iht, P^lgrima^e of Man is a small
brochnrc^ in the Lihrar^'of Qucen'sf " ^ /> i _*
transUtedf it would appear, from
dcCH ^ ' i stated to be in u,v ^
Libr :'. I have not seeii
thestj v.v. r, ., - ;.. Offor hv* nv.^n tl ,[
titles, with eJctrjMJts from the Ei hich
enables the readier to judge i . .1 the
contents. The scope o( the tract— tor it is nothtiig
more— is an acc<Juut of Adam in Paradise, of the
batlding of Babel, of Moses and Solomon^ of^the
iM
coming of the Siiviour. Then commences the
pil^image of mankind^ ** which entoreth the londe
of June at the age of lx." Mankind are then
panided through the different months, and the
book concludes with a hattle between Justice and
Vice, when Jvistice finally triumphs. How any
rescmbUmce can be found between this and the
PilfjrinCi Frogrefis passes my com prehension. If
the mere allusion to a pilgrimage, which almost
necessjirily includes an allegory, is to constitute
plagiarism, there are a score of books which might
equally involve Bunyan in the accusation. It is a
singular fact that these charges all deal in ^Tigne
generalities. When put tt> the test, I am not aware
that a single passage in Bunyan has ever been
tniced to any other source. Shakspeare might
erjually he accused of plagiarism, because his plots
were derived from the legendary chronicles of his
time. If there had been any such close resem-
bUnce as is attempted to be shown, it is incredible
that the older works, so long since translated into
English, should have been allowed to sink into
oblivion, whilst the glorious epic (it is worthy of
being called Buch) of the in.spired tinker has
delighted successive genemtions for two hundred
years, and bids fair to endure aa long as the
iangija^ in which it is written. J. A. Picton.
Sundylcnowe, Wavertree.
The poem of Gnillaume de GuiUeville was
published in London by B. M. Pickering, 196,
Piccadilly, 1858, and entitled, " Lc Pdtrinage de
X'i/ommi; com pared with the Filgrini 8 Progress of
John Bunyan. Edited from Notes collected by the
lute Mr. Nathaniel Hill, of the Royal Society of
Liteniture, with Illustrations and an Appendix.'*
The liooki'. of the Pylgrtmnge of the iS'orr/r;, trans-
lated from the French of G. de GuilleviUe,
printed by W. Caxton in 1483, was published
the yeiir foU owing by B. M. Pickering, edited
by Kntherinc Isabella Oust. The MS. before
me, from which the above was taken, is in
excellent preservation. The date appears on the
last folio (1413), in rubric : — ** Here endith the
dreem of the pilgrimage of the soide translated
owt of frensch in to Englysch. The yeer of oure
lord MccccxMJ"'^\ Verbifc trans latoris," For a
review of these works, see GenL Mag., 1859, p, 582,
and the Dublin Frteman^s JoitmaL
W. Winters, F.R.H.5^.
WnlthAm Abbey.
I sh.ill be very glad to lend my copy of Lc
Pdtrinage dc VEmnmc to Mr. BLENKiNSOPr, if he
will writ© to me for it. A. F. C»
Harringiijn Rcctgryi CwliAle.
Single Ette-Glassks (5*^S. i. 489.)— Some good
practical obfiervation on the advantage of double
over single eye-glasses and opera-glasses will be
found in Dr. Kitchener's Economy of tht Eyes^
Loud., 1824. He says, in pp. 15 and Hi : —
^^ SpectHcles &re always pneftrrftble, beeati«<d both eyes*
by being kept in scdon. ure kept in health. Vition is
brighter and easier, and the labour of each e.vc is cou-
fitdermbly IcfAened. If persons will lave (l ringte eye-
glass, let them take care to use it without partiality, and
put it to each eye alternately.''
A donble eye-glass is better for the eye«, hut
rather cumbrous slung round the neck, and
troublesome to open on every trifling ocoasion.
Being very short-sighted, I use a single glass, but
apply it to the left eye with the right hand, and
tice varsa^ By so doing, the eye not used is
covered by the wrist^ and its focuft is not disturbed,
I believe the common practice of sticking a glass
over one eve to be very injurious to both.
H. B. a
U. U, Club.
The following appeiired in the Lancet of June
27th (p. 924), after Mr. Ellis'^ query was pul>-
iii^hed in ** N. & Q." It almost seems as if written
as a reply to it ; —
'*8i.'«oLK Fa'E'Glassks.— Of all the folliea of humini
f^itbiori, perhaps none is more ridiculoua than that of
placini^ before one eye a circular piece of glasS} through
which the wearer cannot see, and which he cai^not even
hold in po«itioQ without considerable facial distort ion.
Ifj however, no more harm were done than thi«, th«
foolish practice mi|iht be left to bo dealt with by tho
caricaturiBt. Unfortunately there arc person?, wlio
really require the aid of lensef, who prefer a kiugle eye-
gliies to ordinary *pectjiclcB. Speaking pncrally, tlie
use of £uch glasses is to be condemned. With a tingle
eye glftgs, most of the work is thrown on to on© eye ;
while the opposite eye, from disuse or want of correc-
tion, becomes gradually deteriorated. The hannonioua
woi'kinga of the ocular inu^cicf are interfered with, and
weakncM and deviationa of the muccles ensue. But,
eren optically, single eyo-jitlaafea are bud, because it ia^
not poM-ible to properly adjust tbem, so that the retinal
images arc unfavoumldy affected. The popula^rfallaciet
conci-ming the us© of eye-glasses and spectacle* are in-
numerable ; but none are more reprehensible than those
Gonccming the single eye-glass and the ordinary ^ince-
S PARKS Henderson* Williahs.
I liave used a aingle glass for my left eye for
more thiin a quarter of a century. I find the
sight of that eye as good as ever it was ; but the
rigki eye has lost its power^ and I cannot now
read with it tdone. I think it probable that this
loss of seeing power results from noD-usef and
that the eye might improve if, from any cause, it
were eaJJed on to supply the function now dis-
charged by the left eye solely. I have tried
double ^flasses, but without benefit, F. I). F.
Belfast
Byron's *' Siege of Cohinth " (5»*^ S. i. 465.)
^The first quotation is not from the "Biege of j
Corinth," which thus begins :—
" Many a vanished year and age.
And tempett's breatbi and battle s mg^/' He,
I
S*' i U. Jott 1«^ 7«.l
NOrES AND QUElUEa
51
— ^^t fmin *'T/mp- hif^nde^i for the opening of the
Byron wrote in imitation
»I»el|'- of which he wiis u
^i\ii.i 4i>^itiii*it, Tlitrn^ lines ara given by Moore
m hia Life of Bijron^ *' iis too full of chamcter and
•pint to be lo4t," beginning as follows : —
" In the year iincc Jeiua died for toco,
Eighteen huodred jenrs and tea.
We were a iifMUatit company.
Riding o'er Jand^ »nd taillnjr <ttr seiL
Uh f but yte wutit merrilj ! '' kc.
In a letter to Murray, after forwarding the MS.
of the Sufie of Corinth^ referring to these linei«,
vrhich were written in December, 1815 — the poem
as it Wft» publifllied dated 22nd Jtinaar^', iyi<J, —
b« say* :— ** I hiid forgotten them, and ain not
»ai« but ibey had better be left out now ; on that
you And your synod can determine." They were
not inserted.
It i^, indeed, as Mn. Suirti says, "a strange
' ' ' " ihi^ dating the Chriatian year from our
"leath insteud of from the Nativity ; but
.. .. .. nuW Htnmger blunder that he Bhould have
tixed bis date at the 18U)th year after the death
of Our Lord, wh'ch would be the year a.d* 1M3,
f cir lU yeara after Byron's own deiith ! The date
IcttOFjot have reference to the year when the siege
\t)( Corinth took place, namely, 1715 ; but the
[lioeA S4fem t<» allude to the poet's travclfl in Greece
la 1810-11, in company of Mr. Hobhouse.
** We were a gall&ut company,"
[be oy0,
. «... '^ of all tonguei and crcedi ;
8ome were ilio«« who eouutcd ben^Mt
SotM af moBque, and lome of cliurrli^
And tome, or i mit-tay, of neither;
Yet throui^h tlie wido world ye may eearch^
Nor find * lootticr crew nor blither.'*
y ** motley crew ** were evidently his follower*,
nt whym Virete some Arnaout^, to whom he
reference in a foot-note. Apropos of this
I Use poen), it h.'iH l>een remarked th^it the lines in
[Ooleridge'a W(u EfloQUt^ Firu Famine^ and
" f ^f.^..A ir, d «vroin|,y field of battle,
- and ikutU 1 made a rattle,
iL tbe wulf, and the carrion crow,
AjfJ ibc L^irjclefi dog, but tliej vroald not go,"
may hare suggested to Byron the well-known
1'^ And he taw the lean dogi beneath the wall,
tiold o'er the d«ad thilr carnival,'' kc.
w. A. a
I doubt whether there be any mistake in the
liticr m^mase quoted from Lord Byron's Sitffe nf
Omimtk* The cujtom of neceiving communion in
both kjfida wa ' ^ . umong Koman Catholiea
inthf>£aai K<i had been left ofi' in the
I WtM- f luive iM»i uii Uink at hand, but I think
' eontspondent {onfliiltii Webb's VontinenUd
EcdfMolog^ he will tind a notice of some largo
dialice^i, wFiich btwl been miide for this purpose,
lliat are stdl preserved at ^'enice. K. P. D. E.
GttAKTS Ot' Nomt^tTT TO FoHBIONERS (5^ S. J,
447, 516.)— The Dutdt fiimily of Tulp, created
baronets of England April 23, 1675, is, according
to Riet>>tap, extinct. That of Spcelman, created
baroncta June 4 and Bcpt. i), 1686, appears to l>e
yet flourishing ; their family arms still bear, on a
cunton, the badge of Ulster, but I do not know
whether the present representative assumes the title
of bjironet, or is content with the rank of ** Jonk-
hecr," conferred on the family in September, 1817.
His name does not appear iu the latest baronetage
I have at Jmnd.
The Dutch family of Senserf, now extinct, held
an English baroaetcy, and bore the badge of
Ulster ; and as this indication of nink still
appears in the arms of the family of Kievit, of
Holland, I t\m led to believe that it wa« similarly
dignified.
The Mackays, Barons Reay of Scotland, are
baronets, and of thei*e titles, Eneas, Baron Mackay
d'Ophemert, in the kingdom of the Netherhinds, i%
the heir presumptive. The ** grants of nobility "of
the original query (5*** S. i.447) were wbfit we should
call "grants of arwu," not of peerage nobility.
Abroad, every artnujer who can prove his right la
use armorial bearings is a " noble.'* It is one of
the modem popular errors of our own country
to suppose that nobility is confined to membera
of the i>eeragc and their children. This really
utterly absurd and entirely insular notion haa
been most ably confuted in a little book which
deserves to be much more widely known, especially
in these days, when so many of our countrymen
flock in search of he:dth or recreation to the Con-
tinent,— I mean The Nobility of the £ngli*ft
Gentry^ by Sir James Lawrence.
Many ap(>otntment^ at foreign courta, and moiat
milittiry commissions in foreign armies, oould only
be held by ** nobles '* : and the grants of nobility,
which form the subject of the quer}*, gave to their
holders, whether foreigners or Kngh.shmen, the
right to use armorial bearings, and so i|ualitied
them for these offices*
Simil.*ir certificates of '* nobility** have, to my
own knowledge, been required within a recent
period from aspirants to commissions in the
Au'^trian servioe. Any one who examines the
lists of graduates at foreign universities (say at
Padna or Hi idelberg) will tind many English and
Scotch men correctly designated as nobues whoae
parents had no pretensions to peerage dignity.
Multitudes of foreign barons and eounta are, in
every respect, including nobility, the inferiora Ckf
an old English gentleman.
JoilS WoODWAHB,
The Parsonage, Meotrote.
I am aware of one case of a foreigner baronet »
f\%.y Boreel, of the Hague. The present holder of
the title is Sir WOlem Boreel : he is n senator of
Holland, And ia, or has heen. n Minister of State.
He was born in ih& year l&MK Curiously enough,
his sister miirried, in li»14, Willenj, Count de
Tv% i^le-Ginkel, the Lwit Karl of Athlone in the
1 . Liripje of Ireland, whose title became extinct at
hiH death, in 1844. NuuMX's.
The baronetcy of Van Coulster, conferred
kyebrnary 28th, 1645^ is staled (vi(U Burke's Exiind
fSarondage^ 1841^ p. 541) to have become extinct
At tlie decease of the first baronet, about 1065.
G, Garwood.
** A Stick of Eels " (6"^ S. i. 48!>.)— The follow-
ing (|Uotatioa furnishefl tm answer to the query,
liow much is a stick f —
** A itick of fish, a term applied to eels when itrung on
arowr, * 81C dicta, qmKi trujectn vimine (quwl gUc dicimui)
ConnectatjAntar '; t'ipeimaft., A H>r.(i doiisiisted gf 25 etildj.
and W^lkix xtLtde & bimie; Gl&iir. lib, ii. c. 9/'
Tbis ia a note by Sir F. Madden, reprinted in
my edition of Havclok Ou Dane, fi.v. Stacj in the
Ciiossari&l Index, p. 144.
Walter W, Skeat.
Cintra Terraee, Ciimbridge.
HoQARTH^a ** Marriagf. a la Mode " {4^^ S.
viiL 164,)— RuoiiDuging **N. & Q/' for scraps
•►bout this Beries of pictures, I came on Mr. W.
iJBATBs's querj^ accompanying a quotation from
"M. F. Wey'B preciouf* Lvndns %l y a CtntAiis, The
extract and the quesition which arisen from it refer
to the existence of u certain Jkvr dt lU m the
fourth plate of ** Marriage \\ la Mode.'^ M, Wey
ne^erts —
'All del du tit de la cotntefec on Toit unc Caorrae
i!eiir de lb, dont In vigiiif^cation conHrnio ajisez Ics
■iiitdisitnces de Tautfiur de CmtdK/e sur Jn eociC-to do ce
R"t«mp8-li, m tone.qutf p-ur i3n»bolt««r lu mCino idcQ chci
nous, au lieu de rtcoui ir ^ IVcuasun di? Fmrice, on eUi
I>luc6 d&nB un caJre le portrait de Chrbtophe Colomb.*'
Mr. Batkb inquirer?, what are the .sign ificiit ion
twd idea alluded to iu this passacjo 1 I cannot
venture to nay what Hor^^arth mifjlit have intended
by the introduction of a jf^/ur de I in in this posi-
tion, but ihc fact in be did not introduoe the
evmbol ftt all, for no such thini? exists in the
deaign. There is, indited, on the wooden cornice of
the bedhtciid an ornament comprising three leaves,
and having a very va^e reseuibluace to a y^«r de
lis^ but it is only such a^ the debased tiiste of the
Conotesi! Kipuindertielda upholsterer produced on
the model of a Jhur dc tis^ and long after the
beauty of that symbolic flower had become in-
visible to the groji* vision of the tradesmun and
bis customcrt* Your correspondent says that he
coidd find no hint on the subject in TruKler,
Nicbob, or the exhaustive commentary of Lichten-
berg* No wonder. But it Mr, Bates cures to
track the steps of M. Wey in error, let hini
to M- Jansen's AnahjMti di hi BcauU, &c., *' do i
Hogarth,' <Sfcc., *' mii^k d'urt^ fwticc ckroriQla^H
hutoriqiie,** &a, Paris, An xiu., 1805, il. p,
and read —
'■^ II no rcsto plus qu'ane petite ciroonst&nce h ob
mftia cctte Imgatetle e<t uue cspcco d'^nigme, Au ci^
du lit do la coait^ase on volt uae gmtido il«ur do \f
Que peuvent aignlfier let amies dc Fraaoo attaches J
lit d une dame Anglaue? "
F. G. S.
Stanley of BiRMiNGtiAM (b^^ S, L 388.)— Two
of Stanley's tunes, " Montjromery ■* and " Dove]
dale," appear in Waite's naltrlujah and The Ci
grcgalioiial Fsalmut (Allon and Gauntlett^s), ai
most other collections ; the latter sometimes as
** Stonefield." E. A. P.
Robert de Wyctjf (5^*^ S. i. 147.)— In reply
Mr. Furnivall, I always understood that Jol
Wyclif was of the family of Wyclif or Wyclyffe,
Wyclif, CO. York (1) : and I think I have seen
printed pedigree showing it. Probably, this villeii
Robert Wyclif, was of tiiat family ; because, fi
the provision made by law that a nobleman orfi
man might volunt.arily become a villein by acknoi
1 edging himself as such in a Court of Record, it
not improbable that many sold themaelve*^ ini
villenage— younger descendants, for instance,
freemen of every rank. These, as far as i
memory carrier me, would become villeins
gross. The females were called neifa, as,
course, Mr. Furntvall must know. And, if a
villein married a free womiin, their issue would
not be thereby enfntncbtssed ; but I think the old
Reports show no nettled law as to the enfranchise-
ment of the issue of the marriage of a nief with
freeman. I thought this singtifar in my studei
days that, as late as Littleton's time, the law
unsettled on this point, and I therefore rememl
it, I think, accurately ; but, as the lord of the
nief would have an action against the freeman for
the marriage, 1 think it pretty certain the childrei
if not the mother herself, would be manumitti
See more in the cap. -^n villenage in Littleton,
copy of which I have not at hand.
The information Mr. FtiRNivALL has previonsl
given is very interesting. It is an entirely ne'
fact to me thiit a villein cotdd hold any part of
lordship, I mean manorial rights over estatos in tf
|^>09 session of others, as welt as in hiis own. TiH
in fact, he could 7iot hold theni^ except on
For^ were he the villein of king or ^'
manor, lands, or other e-st4ite^ would instjini
become lii« mjister's ; and, if he sold it, the
could even follow it, though the subject could
Therefore* Robert Wyclif wns the mere n^ni
his lord m the purchase of the r
allowed to hold it, probably, by tS * of
rent. (I) In still earlier timenj it not ub late
old
iae- I
'M
the
for
e<^B
V* 8. II. JoiT IS, 74 ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
53
I
ScJwoid ilL or RIchani IL, certain freemen even
(snch as tho?^ of villein de:%cent) could not kold
brdsbip over the dotl, tboagh they could acquire
land. A manoriiJ estate in the early Plantn^net
times mnked among the highest, and the possessor
of throe iimoor« and upwards waa e^toemed a nuijor
hATon — ranked with tne greater noblea* Thk waA,
of course, before the formation of the Hotues of
PKrlmment. It will, therefore, be undeiistood, us
Ibe more surprising, that Mr. Furnivall baa fished
Dp the t^vidcnce he has, that, about a century after
the e«tabli&hment of a regular Parliament, we find
ft villein in possession of manorial rights, even on
coflemttoe. H. T.
PA Was Dot Eobert WydiC, in fact, a trostee?
Many were the concealed trtists of those days^ and
many, too» were the abuses arif^ing out of them.
A ntan had absolute possession by one deed, and a
decJamtion of the tmsts in another. He perhaps
filed, and all hi« trust property, if knights' fees,
were sonietiuies aceouoted his own on his InquUi-
timi vmt trwrt. His heir would still hold in trust
for the real owner, and, perhaps for generations
and generations, the-entail (if any) would never be
docked« and the iiin;^^:? fees on eivch InqmMon
p64t nujtL of the successively dying tniateea
would be paid by the ixecutors, and afUrwarde
charged to the tm^t e^uite. As the estate was not
ftbown ti6 that of the owner (or, as lawyers say,
<€*tui que iLifi), so many in those troublous, yet
merryt oA<i tiiues altogether escaped forfeiture.
*• BosiJ '♦ (S*** S. L 389.)— Kedhouse renders Urn
Turric //rWj, empty, vain, useless, and hosh hdirdt\
tionsfcnjie ; but this word ia iirobably an itbbi'eviH-
lion of tho felftn^ term kihom or hjboah^ doubtless
corrupted from cui bono* K. B. Charnock.
Gr*y'i Inn*
** Ni5WT.T>- "' i'l^^ S. iL a)— There are two New-
hnwi, or rather St. Newlyn?, both in Cornwal! ;
<^T ' '' ' ' 'lie A bctrough of Grampound,
ti h of St. Paul by Pen/iince.
Iii.,..u.>^ .i..^i^ Mii^iiL I'uraiflh au answer.
Ltttbltok.
If A* £. W. have not coined this word for the
title of his novel, perhaps it may be explaiaed as
Sgal to New Linn* which latter ' ' tch
^ Miancs render by ** precipice or 1
•MftUo tlic name Newlinp in CrockUnu ^ < untal
JHmUfry. C. F. S. Warrex, MA
ZiHZAS 8TILKKT (S*"* S. ii. i)) would fieem to
hav# iC« name from a Kurniuues. The IJiU. Reading
(l^ad., IM12, p. 451 ;, apeaking of the prtttent
•tale of the town, flays : —
**T\\* i<hop Laud hftd pro-
)- tho ruw of bouiw
between Back Lane and Sun Lane, but thoso which
stand bctivton Fisbcr Row and Butcber ILow» and to
have made Broad Street, in wbieh he wa^ born, a very
cxiennvo street, by continDtug it tip to Mr, Gor^y now
Mt«. Zintan'fl, at the end, and on the other to the
' Saracea'i Head." "
I was at first inclined to think that tho name
Zin^an was corrupted from 8injin, i,6.^ St. John,
or allied to the French names Sins, Sinns, Binsard ;
or perhaps derived from O. Fr. itjnxin^ cousin,
parent, alli^ (also xyn^ Jt^r, cousin, cousine, Ac):
but I take it that the name is mthcr from Alex-
ander, Amonjs the burials in 8t. Lawreoce'a
Register for 1625 is *' Mr» Andrew Zinzano, clV$
Alexander"; and among the marriages for 1663 is
** Peter Alexander, oftti* Zinzan, and Judith
Gunter." R. S. Charkock*
Gray's Inn. I
The name of this street in the town of Reading |
is without doubt atttibutable to the fact of thes
Zinzan family being possessed, for two or three
generations, of the manor of Tilehurst, and of other
hinds and tenements near to and within the town
of Reading. The property was acouired by the
marriage of Henry Zinzan with Jncoba, the eldest
of the three daughters and co-heirs of Sir Peter
Vanlore, of Tilehurst, Kt. and Bart, (as I have
shown in the Eer. and Gen., i. 371).
From a monumental inscription formerly in
Tilehurst church, but now out of sight, we learn
that Ucnry Zinzano, alui^ Alexander, died on the
18th November, 1676, and JacoV*a, his wife, the
22nd June^ 1677, and that both were buried at
Tilehurst, They had istue a son, Henry Zinzano,
bom 2nd January, 1633, and four daughter*, who
were all baptised at Tilehurst.
The first of the family that is met with in Eng-
land was Sir Robert Zinssano, alias Alexander
(Haid to have been an Italian noble), of St. Albans,
HcrtH, and Bailiff of the royal Liberty of St.
Albansf. His eldest son was Sir Sigismond Zinzan,
Kt., of Molesey, Snr- - - V^ mairied Margaret^
daughter of Sir Phil , Kt,, of co, Notting-
bum, and died in Ib^-.. Iwcy had i*sue several
children, the eldest of whom, Henrj^ Zinzano, mar-
ried Jficoba Vunlore, and became of Tilehurst in
right of bis wife. B. W- GftKExriKLO.
BouthAmptoo.
"SiTUATK*' {b^ a L 407.)-W. E. oaks, "Is
the use of this wortl in the preterite correct?"
and adds that "the |">aat tense, according to all
analog^', ia situaicd, and m it is generally u»ed."
In reply, I would ask, are there any examples of
the use of the word as a verb bv nnv tt'<tH^ctable
writ^-r f To me it appeare tt rifde
W. ¥jk gives of it in the ** past i 1.4 an
odjecttTe fallowing a substAntivc verb in tho pi^
tent© :—
** A goodly orchard ground W9B iUuaiit.''
It ia not ^ttitfe Qbviwa mh^- mUml^ ihwiM h^^auk*
TOTES AND QUERIES.
[ri'»'S. ii.juu i$.7c
sidered more " slipshod " than adequate^ co7tunen'
miraic^ sedate^ or any other luijective in ale. Surely
the term is more upplicuble to aituakd^ a partici-
piftl form, auggefitive of a siiuaUrf one who situates.
The question raised by W. E, is based on an
entirely false assumption. In the sentence quoted,
" situate '* is not the preterite^ nor is it a verb at all,
but an adjective, and its use as such, and in pre-
eisely the senite quoted, is perfectly in accordance
with well-established usage. In law papers the
udjeetive situate its in constant use in thia country,
as well as in England, though its use otherwise is
much less frequent here than there.
GAaxoN Djs Bkrneval,
FhilEbdelphiA.
Is it not Hither W. E.^g own expression which
is ** slipshod " i Does he not imagine a iKirticiple
and then invent a verb for it } Tliere is no verb
to situati in Johnson, nor is it " accord ipg to all
analogy ■* to form our present infinitive from a
Latin past participle. H. D. C.
Falcoxkt tue Artist (5*^ S. ii, 8,)— Falconet
was an artist, painter and sculptor, employed on
the statue of Peter the tlreat at St. Petersburg,
nnd created in reward a noble as the ** High Bom ''
—truly, so said Falconet^ I was born iu an attic.
I have a portrait by hiiu of his wife, or declared
to be so in the catiilogiic— a careful! y-finiahed,
pleasant picture, which has iiadergone the criticism
and approval of many celebrated British artists.
I bought it at the StRiwberry HiU sale,
H, P. S.
The Gaithnian'A Magazine, 1808, voL i. p. 5,
speaks of a port mi t of a Mr. Kirby psunted by
P. Falconet. The ^<iime pcriodiciil^ 1790^ vol. ii.
p. 667, i^ives, under July 1, the njiirriage of "John
Lewis Theodore Depalizeux Fidconet, Esq.^loMisa
Anne Hunter, of Khode Ishind.
Edward Pjcacx)ck.
Pierre Falconet was the son of fitienne Maurice
Falconet^ the celebrated sculptor. Ro«e (Biog.
IHd. 18!)7) merely says he was a painter of i»rtraits
and historicftl subjects. He visited L<jndon in 1766,
and gained two prizes from the 8<iciety of Arts.
Sparks Hendeb^ok Williams.
Gray's ** ElettV** (5*^ S. j, 466.)— Breen, in his
Modem EnqlUh Literature^ p. :231, traces Gray's
stanm to the Kntin couplet :—
•* PluriinA gemma lutct caca tellurc c^pulta ;
Plurima n^glccto fmgrat «hdore rosa," *
Biihop Hall has a ptimllel to the first two lines :—
** T])«re ii many a rich Atone laid up in the bowels of
the eartlj, m&ay ft fair pear) in tlie bo«9m of the ieu^that
never wm s«en. nor ever will be."
The last line occurs in the same words in
Churchill : —
'* Nor waste their sweetoese in tie desert %\t,**
And also in Lloyd :—
** Which else bad waated in tbe desert air/*
In Habington's Cattara (Arbers Reprint, p. 28)
the following lines are found :^
'* III » d:irkc care* which never eye
Could by hia subtlest ray descry.
It doth like a rich minerall lye.'*
In Wallers beautiful song, (?o, lovely iio»K I
find a parallel to the second half of the stan?^ :—
'* Tell her that *g young,
And shuns to bave her f^races spied,
That had'ftt tbou vprung
In deserts, wbero no men abide.
Thou must have uncommendcd died."
The idea also occurs in Shelley^s Utvolt of htoAS^
canto i, 16 :—
•* There was a woman, beautiful us morning,
Silting boncutb the rock», upon the sand
Of the waflte sea, /air as oiuHoiDtr adoriiiu^
An.icjf wUdemeu.'*
T. Macorath.
*'TopoQRAPniA HraKRNirA** of Gfralous Cam-
BRENsis (ri*** S. i. 389.)— This work was translated
into Englisli by Hoi ins lied j but perhaps the
translation most readily procurable by a Natu-
ralist is B(>hn*8 edition^ published in 1863, and
edited by Thomas Wright, Strange to say, no
reference is made to it under the name of either
author or editor in Bohn's edition of Lowndes.
Gajbton de Bebkbval.
Phikdelphia.
Edwards, of America (5*** S. i. 408.)— I en-
close a cut of the arms borne by the family of
Jonathan Edwardj*, imthor of Tltr Freedom of the
WiU. I infer that the Kdwardses of Salop are of
the same family, and if so I wonUl bo glad to oor-
rcs^wnd directly with U. B, in re^^uni to the
geuealogicjil table he is getting up.
We have but little information about our family
previous to their emigration from Enghind ill
1640, or about any of the English branches. 1 am
a great-great-grandson of Jonathan Edwards.
Wm. B. Edwards.
Pittshui^gbi Fennejlvanift.
Therp-Cakb (6^' a i. 4i4.)— Ma. Fibhwjcb:
has quoted two lines of the Visioii of Purt Plow-
man where this cake is mentioned ; and siys that
in Lancjishire nre cakes cjiUed thar and fAaiA-cakes.
I notice this to add that in Scotknd are cakea
called eaar-cakcif (pr, sic), compounded of flour or
meal, eggs and sugitr, with what is there called
hcaitic-milk, which is that taken from the c*ow tirnt,
or soon aft^r calving. The uiass is fired on a girdle
antl then used : mac Jamieson's Dictioimnj, under
" Care-cake," " Skair-skon/' and ** Sooty-skou/*
whcte all of these are said to be es^ten on Fasteea>
y»8. II.Jcitl8.74.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
55
I
■ ^^
■ wur
■ istl
I
^
j.;Vp '"• ^i^-ove-Tiiesday. Also " Skirrin-fimsdAy/*
ill' \ before Good Friday (Jamieaon). C«m
%n\ ^ .. \vhether the adjectives coar and b€a»He,
Sualtfjing milk, aaaume other fonns^ and what is
acir origin ? H
Rev. Samtkl Hardy (5*^ S. ii. a)— For
further pnrticulam rebting to hU writings, aee
Omie's Bihliothtcti Bihlica^ AUibone's Dictionary
^f Authority and Dr. Watt's Bihlv^ihcca Britanidca.
A short btogr»phiciil account of him is found on
K 580 of Pagers History of Suffolk. The Anmial
KtifuUr^ 1783, gives an account of his non's
wiunler by Mr. Daniel M*Ginni8, who stiibbed him
in the Itft breast with a bjiyonet, which entered liift
iie&rt. This unhiippy accident wiis occasioned by
le water thrown out of Mr. M'Ginnis's window
Mr. Hardy's Bkyli^jht, who, going upstairs to
remoDstrate witli Mr. ^l^Ginnis, words arose,
which proceeded to this fatal extremity. Mr.
MHimnis had n moat excellent character given
hhii aa a quiet, hiirtnlefis, inoffensive, and humane
p^rsoD, by gentlemen of high nink. I find ^ again,
in the Annttal lic^utkr^ 1784-.% the following
pmgmph :-^" July 19th, 1785. On Tuesday lust
I)t. Mjicffinnis^ who was convicted of stabbing Mr.
Hmtly, the hatter, in Newgate Street, two yearH
•go^ was discharged from his confinement in the
King's Bench, and set off for the Continent.*' The
Kev, Suiiiuel Hardy died m 1793^ aged seventy-
three. OWLKT.
PRETACES TO BooEs (5* S. i. 357.)— I have
before me a coj^ of Tavemer's EpUtlfs and
GospelJiM, 154(J, which has '*Tbe Preface" and
other preliminary matter, comprising four un-
nuinbered leaves ; but I think prefaces were
mdtuilly introduced after title-]>ages became of
neqnent occurrence, say nbout 150().
Gaston dk Bernevau
PhilAdelpbta.
The Australian Drama (5*^ S. L 423.)—
Additions to list of names of authora, &.C., fur-
nished by Mu. Ikolis :—
1. Fntn£09ca VoMn, » imgedy in five actif by John
fjr- luthor »Uo of ircflilses on Coloniftl Law,
'if Maif, a Christian drama founded on the
A' ripid«, corof>of«d by B*v. Wm. Kelly, 9. J.*
U'\ 14 at Convent of Biitera of Mercy, Mel-
"fh Sea Si$tir*t a lyric mafioae. Is the work
of i (crnie, author of Orton, ana waa tjsued in
lBQ6, X muiiih or two subfequently to his other d'*«ma,
^tamttktui tk* F^rt-Bringer. Both were published in
^r t Dramatic IHttib-aiions of Ancient Hit-
Ic^j ^d (m far «i complete) in one volume, MeU
Itenkf^ 1H5, And include the following :—,/w</i7A, Tht
Mwmmf Makgfw o/S^fpt, Buryncme ike Orttl Aiaidrn,
QmAm^ M94iimr$k, Baboon, /fimrvud ih4 Mi^htj^
bourne, 1873, is by My tea MacFhail, a gentle man well
known in Edinburgh.
7. End^rhif, a tragedy in Are ftct«, MeIbottme,nodate.
1 cim furniah evidence a§ to the date of thU drama
additiorml to that already givtn (5*'' 8, i. 154), if Mu.
IftOLis desires it.
Stage Criticisms deser\'ing special notice : —
^. Tr<ij /Tomtet Madt or, the Lucubrations of Mestrv.
Smith, Brown, Jones, and Robinson, with in trod tic tory
preface by the Editor of the Argm (from which they
are repruUcd). with writers* names attached:— Jamtra
Smith, Dr. Ncikl. arc all I remember. Thia pamphlet
wa«i issut'd iu 1863, and i« a valuable addition to the
theatrical memoranda of Melbourne,
9. Brown ihe Or:at ; or, Preea and Stage, a Colloquy,
by George Scott Hough, Melbonme, 1868.
E. A P.
Tub Earl of Moreton (5^* S* i. 508.)— May
this title be rh error for Mortagne, or Mortain, in
Konnandy ] He wa.** half-brother to William the
Conqueror, In the Appendix to Pennant-* Brituh
ZooitMjif^ vol. ii., (540, is a document from Biishop
Lyttelton 8 Collections, which begins, ** Johan, comes
^ioreton.*' George R. Jessr.
Robert, Enrl of Moreton, or Moriton, who was
also Earl of Cornwall, was brother of Odo, Earl of
Kent, and half-brother of the Conqueror. He was
associnted with Odo in the imsaccesaful attempt to
dethrone William Rufus. In addition to his
estates in Surre}'^ and Sussex, he held a oon*
aiderable part of the Isle of Wight, William, his
son and successor, was deprived of all his GBtatei
in En^rhind by Henry I. C. L. M. Stevtoi8»
Guildford*
^'Mars ma Sword '* (5*^ S. H 2.)—T. J. V.
wiO find on reference to the Prliyer Book, in " a
Collect or Prayer for all conditions of men,*' be-
ginning, " 0 God, the Creator and Preserver of
all mankinil,^" that it concludes, "And this we
beg for Jesus Christ hU sake." Clarrt.
A "Watkr-Blast'* (5**^ S. iL 9.)— A water-
blast and a wnter-blain are the same thing, a
swelling caused by chilling the hand in water, as a
chilbkin ia produced by ft chiil from cold air.
a A Ward.
Mayfair.
The Emperor Alexander IL (5* S. i, 464 ;
ii. 30.)— You will perhaps allow me to make a few
remarks on Mr, 1>ilkk's note, which appears to
contain some errors. In the first phice, that the
word tzar is derived from Ciesiir is now admitted
by ail the best Slavonic schoUrs. It will be euffi-
cient to quote the nam^ of Schnffarik and Kopitiir
as having held thnt opinion. The hitter sav-^, in
his GtogoUta Clo^iianuSf a classical work to all
students of this neglected branch of bnguages
(p* ix.), that it resulted *' francicA medii levi pro*
nuntiatione Cieaaris." In the Church Slavonic we
get the foroi Uitarm X uae English letters^ feAciog .
NOTES AND QUE
lfs*a n.JiTLTis.^
that you have no Slavonio type. There i^ also a
Go^^nfite verb^ meiitiing *' to rule.'* Uim well known to
iBcbolar^ that there arc mnny words in the old
Church knguajro derived through a Gennaa me-
dium : thu:*, SI. popCf Genn. jo/ajfc ; SI aliar,
Gemi. altar; and, as very similar to the ca96*of
^Gmar and Tmr. I m^j add Germ, kirctt^ and BL
ftmh&v^ a church*
The old idea that Tmr was from an AssyriJin
root, or something of the kind, the same im we find
in Belsbazzivr, Nebuchadnezzar, &c-, is now quite
exploded. I believe one geBtlemaQ did attempt
to prove that Belshazzar was only bolahoi Txar^ i.e.
great emperor ; but there have been Slavotio-
maniaca as there have been Gel to- maniacs. This
derivation of the word Tzar is found in the notes
to Kararazin% work ; but the lucubn^tions of tlmfc
once revered author^ whether historical or philo-
logical, are now somewhat obsolete.
In the second place, I must enter a protest
agnimt the use of the word Turanian, a very un-
fortunate expression, belon^ring to the infancy of
, compamtive philology, and now bein;:; ^.Tadually
I abaudone^J, even by it» chief Bupporters. It wtis
^ a^ b«3t but a mere Blovenly name for all the odd
laikguages which defied claasificatton*
W. R. MOSHLL.
That the Byzantine and Gennon words for
Emperor are derived from Coeaar ia indisputable,
hut I should be glad to hear somewhat more of the
reasons for deriving Tsar from the »ame root than
Dr. Charnock*s tp«€ dixiL I have neither suffi-
cient knowledge nor time to examine the details
of the qiieijtioD, which was quite incidental in my
note on the Eiinx?riif8 title; but when a majority
of the best Riissian authorities have come round
of late to the contrary opinion, 1 may be excused
for considering it unproved, at least till some
aigument has been brought forward in its favour.
ASHTON W. BlLK£.
Sba-port Town, Afbtca (5*^ S. i. 4S7.)— In
the map of Northern Africa in Tke UliistraUd
Atlas (London, J. & F. Tallis), the town of
Mnhedia is marked on the moat easterly part of
the coast of Tunis, but, according to the scale of
miles, it is 124 miles S.K from Tunia, in a direct
Hue, F, A* Edwabbb.
"The Ghost op thi: Old Empire'' (d^ S. i.
508.) — Til IB idi»a is, I am pretty sure, to be found
in Hobt»ci(, but I have not hit works at hand to
hunt the passage «p* K, P. D, JE.
UsK OF Ikvicrtkd Cohkab (5**> S. i. 9, 75,
154, 217, me, 455 ; 5*^ S. ii. 37.)--Medweio may
rest assured the use of inverted commas for the
purpoie excepted to by Lord Ltttci/pok, «<> far
from belnjr the result of *" half-education" on tbo
part of either writers or printers, has always been^
iind still is, the practice of the educate<l of all
ranks. I say nothing as to the expediency of the
equivocal use of inverted commas, and incline to
agree with Lord Lyttelton that the more laud-
able practice is to restrict their use to ca^es of
actual quotation ; but I assert that such a restric-
tion would be a no\^ltj on estahlished usage. I
am not going to crowd the columns of ** N. & Q.*^
with illustrative extracts ; in fact, I meet with
auch every day, in both old and recent litcmture,
I give the last instance I have observed, which (g
in the Timci of last May 14, p. D— "We should
like to see our women less * accomplished * and
better instructed/* The tirst participle is not a
quotation from one or other of the speeches in the
Convocation of the University of London, to which
the article relates, but is put in inverted commas
purely for contemptuous emphasis,
I observe another early instance of the emphatic
use of inverted commas in Webster's DutcJifss^ of
Maify, 1G4(>5 the last two lines of the play t>eing
printed in italics, with " opposite the first line of
the couplet. I have not considted the edition of
1623. Jabjbz.
Atheoiema Cluh,
The sixteenth and seventeenth century examples^
which have been quoted, of the use of inverted
commas^ for emphasising notable passages, or those
to which attention was desired to ho apeciaJlj
directed, are interesting as showing how certain
peculiaritiea arise at particular pcjioda, and the©
cease ; but I imagine that none of your oorrespon-
denta bring them forward to show the propriety of
their use for similar purposes at the present day^
any more than they would wish to hring forward
the vagarious spelling of the same epodm. Custom,
I think, must be, for the most part, the arbitrator
in such cases. This applies equally to another
subject which has branched out of the above — I
mean the mark ! I at once admit that *^ note of
exclamation" is a better term than "note of
admiration/' because the former would include the
latten as, How beautiful ! but the latter would not
tdways be includetl in the former, as, How horrible?
How absurd ! All I contend for is, that this
mark — whatever name it may be called by —
exprcwes, except sometimes in the case of irony^
an emotion— mostly twdden — of th£ mind. And
as I regarded the usual "Dear Sir," or ''Gentle-
men,^* as conveying neither emotion of the mind
nor irony, but as simple " nominatives of address ''
(not "Wocatives "), I consider*'*! nml still con-
sider, the use of such a marl 1 ignorance
and viUgarity, and, thereforL^ i / could uot
have existed in the origimtl manuscript of Law^
rence.
T have neither the time nor the opportunity now
I
I
fl»&n.JoiTl8,7i.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
57
I lo if if it were cuatoraary to employ this
[ nj.i 1 ' asea at early periods, but that it was
[not Fi> :vi LUi latter ptirt of the eighteenth century
I ia clearly iinpiied by the Rev. J. Robertson, whose
I learned little work on Pnnctufition I referred to
[on a former occafiioa when speaking of the first
' um of iJao colon (:)
*' A note of exdftmation may he placed after Sir or
Jfadaat mhem any tudd^n or tn^mt €moti4>n li cxpr*a$€dt
Sir t this langoage amaMa me !
Madam I I am thnndentntck ! "
Foreign examples appear to me beyond the
" •■ -1 I have read (though I do not vouch for
vj) that the Gennans invert this mark at
.- ^lj4 of a sentence to expresa Irony ; and
[ Timperley, who we know waa a practical printer,
vs ilu Sninish and Portngnese typographei^ do
_% hut at the beginning of a sentence^
^ I vxcljunation from interrogation* We
I know no such instances in English. Medwbig.
Tka (5^ S. L 405, 47a)— Br. Kitchiner, in his
I Codk^s OrafU^ quotes the folio win ;? from Sir
I Kenelm Di^^by's Cookery^ London, lG6ti : —
"The Jesuit that came from China* a.d. 16i54, tolj
Hr Walter that to tt drfiohm of tea they put a pint of
water, and fre<^««iitly tuke the >olkBof twottcw latdegvcit
"^rat them np u tth u^ rnuch fin© augar aa ia aufSctent for
Mil atlr all well together. He alio in-
it we let the hot water remain too lomg
. ..,--.. .he tea. which luakea it extract into itftelf
I the cariUy part of the herb ; the ivMter must remain
Uf»on it tio longer than tekile yp\t ean tay tht Miterere
i*4tUm 9fr You hare then the spiritual part
©f the t*. ' "rtion of which to the water matt
be about u _______ J i\ pint."
Think of the Jesuit misgionarieK in their black
and whi»i^ lijtbita reciting in penitential peaha
I *• tr* fy," with their eyes devoutly tbced
I npo: lOt! Gbetsteiu
Ak Eeealdic Mao.izine (5**» S. i. 444, 496.)—
I Oiherfl, highly eligible, lui, for instance, Asglo-
ScoTUs* Mn, Sinclair, Mb. Maidment, Ma.
EorT - - *^r PT. Bkrtrand Payne, &c., might be
nan junt of their historical, genealogical,
ind i<^ i .i i i 1 -icqnirementFj for the vacated editorial
ofaair in question. Tewars and Hermekthodb,
^^jlUie real names are unknown to ine, must be ad-
^^^H^ to be Hcond to ncne as reguds snbstantiai
H^Rficfttions for sucli a post. S.
Tint Beo akd tuib HAtrPENNr (5"* S. i. 326,
I32L) — I urn able to afford some infomiAHon re-
•^ectiEie the coin " la mtuUe ," ita >Tdue, and its use
iarr— -'-
1 I ien*3 Ttaiie d€s Mon n oi«
«t i' h C<*ur deg ATonnoifs, en
j /»rr '2 vols. 4 to., Paris, 1764,
■\ oa do compte^
ri^TPC parti 0 d'un sol toumoii. La Maifle $e (luhdMie
en deux Htes, et chaque Pite en deux ften.i t'itca. ha
Maillc a ct^ autrefois unc monuoie courante, et la plua
pttitede cellei qui onteu cours en PrMtice ; mubsi dtmntit*
on encore te nom de Mail e, parmi le peup'e, au denier
toumob, eouii le K-gno d'Henri IV,, par 1 habitude oA
Ton (!tiiit d'af pellcr de ce nom lee plu^ petite* des e»-
jjccei courante 8."
Under the head of "Denicrs tournois," the
Dictionary above-mentioned mjs : —
** Dculera toumotf . appe116s ainpi parceque lea premier*
fureitt frapp^fl A Tiuri; petite M*initoie de cuivro eans
ra^lenKe de fin, qui a en autrefois icrand couri en Frances
Le denier tournoisse subdirise eti deuxiiiaiY/u ouob^^lat/'
lie.
At the end of the Bictionfiry are tables of th^
various muniea struck in Franco between a.d*
125H and a.d. 1726, their valuei^, &c. No men-
tion is mtxde of **Maille8 de Irorraioe," but the
*' Maillc d'jirgent" of 131(» i» given aa worth | of
the value of one denier. There were also istiUfHi
in 1315 **Mailles Bourgeoises/^ valued, per maille,,
at i a denier ; and *' Maillea Farisia," idightly
higher in value, vis^., | of a denier. In 1329 wero
issued '*MailleH blanches'* of varied values, i. c»
some worth 4 deniers, some worth 6 denfera, and
others worth X sol 4 deniers each. The last royaJ
edict for coining ^'Mailles tournoiaes^' is given a»
dated on Nov. 7, a,d. 141 1, and the vilae, as be-
fore, 4 !i denier.
M. de Bazinghen was " Conseiller Commissaire
en la Cour des Monnoies de Paris'* ; and his work
seems to me to be worthy of all respect as an au-
thority, being, on all matters connected witb
French coinage, a-ssays of precious tuefnls, lawa
regulating the work of goldsmiths, jewellers, &c.,
full of quaint and well-«tored information.
It seems clear enough that the " maille," when
referred to in any proverb, must be the ** maUle
toumoise," and not one of the " mailles blanches '* ;
I judge .^o not only from the saw given by Mr.
Ward, " Bonne cat la maille qui sauve le denier/*
but from another proverb, which I proceed ta
quote. When anytning has been improved, they
say, " Qn'elle vaut mieux denier qu'eUe ne valoit
tnaille,'* evidence that of the two pieces the denier
was of the highest irapoitance. FaiTe Ui honn^
nmilU is **garantir que le oompte y est jusqu'4^
une inaille," and "maille k partir" ia "avoir
quorelle." The.*<e two explanations, and the pro-
verb immediately preceding, are extmcied from
the IHctionnaira de$ Frovtrbet Fmmeakf ISoMk^
Paris, 1758. Ommamm.
Wimbledon*
r N' FAMitY (5i»» S. i. 208, 2f)l)^Thia
is ij nsime of early times. Among th«
cha.iii- injJ family papers of the "Maxwells of
Pollok '* (vol i. p, 203), the nnme appears in A
charter by ** John, Earl of Lennox, and Mfvtihcw
Stew.nrd, hig son, to Sir John Munguiitry^
.58
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6-^ S. 11. Jatt 18, 7t
I
Clogistonc, notario publico," 16th April, 1403 ;
and iigam, in u ^ubj.equent document (p. iJ<»5), the
niinie appenrA " Bcbir Alexander (*hig5tone." The
name of the inrxterDtil preat -grand fat her of the
present Lady (*ole was Clugston^ in some wuj
connected fi4» a public officer either with the port
or county of Wigton, His daughter married
Captain Acton, of the old Cutbolic family, the
Actons. I believe that Cardinal Acton and
CaTaliere Acton, Prime Minister of Ferdinand^
King of Naples, about the beginning of this
centurj', were uncles of Captain Acton. The
Cliigstons became^ in this way^ allied to some of
the oldest families of England. The late Lady
Granville, Maria-Louifia, only child and heir of
Emeric-Joseph, Due D'Alberg, was widow of Bir
Ferdinand Ri chard Edwarrl Acton, Bart., Aid en-
ham, the son of Cavaliere Acton, and a leader of
fashion at the Court of Naples about forty years
ago, where I hare oft^n met him. I have no
doubt that Clugstoun, like man3''suc!i names, was
derived oriojtnally from some place. Not long
ago I met with the name of a piece of land, Clogis-
ton, in an old charter connected with the ahire
either of Roxburgh or Berwick, but unfortunately
I did not take note of it, and cannot recall to my
memory the charter in which I found it.
a T, Ramaoe.
There Is n family' of the name of Clogsf oun now
living at Wim borne, Boi-setshii-e. It is a Scotch
name. G. C,
B^ziQl'E (:,«» S. I 167, 233, 357, 41 IX)— I have
found the word Ba^^ca h\ the I>izmiaru) Uni-
tenale Critico Enajdoptdic.o ddla Lingua It^-
liano (leir Abbati D'Albcrti di l^iUanuova, pub-
lished in Lucca, Mnccxcvii*:—
** BAzzicA un gnico di carte huK che li guiocti in tra
4> in quattre persone, e si donno tre ciirte per uiio; clie
<;eiitM»o chufchedunn il iuo numere, e le ft^ure centaiio
dieci. Lb mtUa eonta n piactmento, dv g:iociitc»ri dull
nno al died. II nutufre at quale »i che glugfiere per
▼isiooe la posta suol' esiere il trent' uno."
This, although not a very clear description, has
no reflembbnoe to our game of B^-sique. A, S,
Richardson Family (4**» S. x. 392; xl 36,
1G(>, 262: 5«» 8. i 513.)—! regret that I am unable
to give RoTSSE any further infonuution, and that
in consequence of the number of the fac-Hiuiile
eopie« of the charter being conhned to the number
of copies of the " Chronicle " which they are in-
tended to illustrate, I ^hnil only bo uble'to afford
him a single copy, which I sljali gladly forward if
RoTSSE will say to what address it mu.«5t be sent.
The fftC-simile i* by the anastatic pioceas of Mr.
Cowell, of Ipswich, a process very good for faded
charters. I may add that various cireumytance*
connected with the eogravingn, heliotynes, &c., aud
in the preparation of the MS., have delayed, .^nd
fire likely to delay for a considerable time loIlg<(^r,
the publication of the Frcwisham hi&tory, in whidi|
all that relates to the Rieliiirdsons* that is neces»ar/,
will be inserted in a foot-note, T. Helsby* '
York Chamhera, Manchester.
If S. P. A. (4^^ S, xi. 36) has succeeded in
meeting with the arms of the WarwicJcshire family
of this name, or any account of them in that county,
1 should be very glad to obtain information on the!
subject. The name is frequently to bo met with in'
the neighbouriDg counties of Oxford and Bucks, aa
well as in Shropshire ; but I have not yet discovered
it in Warwickshire, and I am inclined to think,
that if there were a Wanvickshire branch, it musl
be in recent times. The only arms borne b;
faiiiilies of this name with which I am acquain
are aa frdlows :
Richard.Hon of London (?): emune, on a cliiel
azure, three lions- heads erased argent, laugued gu
Richardson of Norfolk : or, on n chief gu,, threO',
lions' heads erased of the first, quartering erminci
on a canton az., a sjdtire ar.
Richardijon of Shropshire : argent, thr^e chaplets,
vert,
Richardson of Durhiim : &able, on a chief indent,
tliree liooii' heads erased, ermine, langued guJes.
Richard son (Bp. of Ardagh, Ireknd): a fSosi^
gultic (?), between three pheons.
I should be glad to know of any others*
BOTSSS.
"SiBiLLA Odalbta*' (5"* S. L 489.)— About
the time this novel appeared an Italian friend^ a
gentleman well versed in the literature of his
countr}% informed me that the author of the work
was a 8ignor Verres^ who sometimes called himself
" Vnrese," and preferred the latter appellation.
This is my only authority. The -same author wrote
likewise La Fulmizata Ligurt, It ProttcrxHo^ and
Prezima di Sanluri; also some other novels which
I did not read, and whose names I have forgiitten.
His style is light and cheerful, bis language good,
and his plots rre sufficiently interesting to induce
the reader to go to the end of them ; and his books
have the great merit (alas t too rare in Ihe^e days)
of being safe to put into the hands of the young of
either sex. V arose was an intense admirer of our
Walter Scott, and published a clever and ingenious
essay, propcaing to show that Walter Bcott might
be considered the Rossini of literature, and Rossini
the Walter Scott of music, which I thought worth
translating, and it appeared about the period abov5
referred to in a magazine long since defunct.
M, H. R.
*^S" VBR8U8 "Z"" (S*** S. i. 8S>.135, 155, 455,51S.)J
— UxKDA dm& not know what he would effect, ii
the st>elhnf; of words were altered to suit promiDCta-l
tion. A langtiuge would be simply destroyed,!
both a!* regards iU historical character and the J
^
6^8LU.jttii8,wj NOTES AND QUERIES.
<i9
true meaning of its words. Let me put before
him tlie remarks of Archbishop Trencii on ihiB
nubjeet, with which every person of ediicAtign, I
abould imagine, must agree : —
* A wdrd exiitc m truly for the eye is for the enr, and
'm Kii hlxhl; ft^lvaiiced etatc of eoctety, wberc reading is
ftlmrtii as uaiveniLl as rpe&kJDg, a.9 much, pcrlitpi^ for
the firtt 9» for the Iwt. The gains con^reiiuent un the
introduction of such a cbruige would be very ftnall^
while the lo8se§ would be enormonfily grcaL The gainii
would be the fating of a certain amount of labour in
the tcArmng to spell; but e?en these g^iiiu would not
long remain, seeing that pronunciation is itself con-
tinually altering ; custom is lord here for better and for
worse ; and a multitude of words are now pronounced in
a different manner from that of u hundred yeara n,y[t},
mo that, ere very long, there would ogain be a chasm be-
tween the spelling and pronunciation of wordA, In
pbonetic spelling lies the proposal that the educated
Kliould.of free choice, plaee themsekes in the conditions
and under the dtsail vantages of the i^n^orant and un-
•du^Mtcd, instead of seeking to elevate these lajt to
lh« ir own more favoored condition."
Mny 1 ask Uneda, would he have Earl Beau-
tip spell his name ** Bechuiii/' or fihoiilti UIa
: of Rutland address his letters from '* Bevor
ile"? W. G. K.
Bove,
Coroner (/>*»> S. i. 4S1.}^A$ Y&u Like It^
Act iv. 1 : Koaalind, spetiking of Leander s de^ith,
»y#, " The foolish ckronidrrit of tkut age found it
wfts — ^Hero of Sestos." Various rrities seem to
b«ve suggested " coroner/' but, as far as I know,
ibis is not borne out by finy old t'opies. It is
evident that an inquest is alluded to. Wuji the
word fhronifUr uaed in this aense in Shakspeare 8
lime f In ilennj VIIJ\, Act iv. 2, the word
i^hronicUr is applied to Griffith by Queen
KaiJierine with a somewhat Biuiihir incoming.
Z, Z.
TTit^ TiKiM probablederivationof this word seems
It* ' conies from the J^atin coronator, a
cr-.^■ * *
**Oqu axd thb Kixo" (S*** 8. ii. a)~Thc book
H eoiitled Is this, now before nie : —
^Ood k the Ring, or a Dialogue shewing that our
SfOtTnlgnt Lord King lames being immediate vnder
God within his Dominions, Doth rightful] v claime
vlteljoeuer is retjuired by the Oath of Allegeance,
11 ftp. , $!•% London : Imprinted by hii Maiestie*! fe|ieciali
Priule<lc9 Aod Command. 1615."
I h.ive it also in small quarto, isi^ued by com*
inund of Charles IL, 1663 ; on the title,—
*' ^ ' ' ^V" coioptlcd and printed by Speeial Commiuid
fit s, (of blessed Memory :) and now Com-
mar e reprinted it publifhed by Uis 3Ii^esty's
rivkdaanatjon, for the Inttruction of all H, M/s
I la their Duty k Allegiance."
I that Its inculcation by the ministers was
but see **N. k Q.,' 2"'* S, iv. 141.
Alexander GARDyxE,
iltc^ney.
^Urenatttoul.
^OTES ON BOOKS, kc
Tki Uistorv 0/ Mtaic ( Art atid Scisnce}, Vol. L From
the Earliest Records to the Pall or the Roman Umpire.
With Explanations of Ancient Syatems of Music.
Musical Instruments, and of the 1'ruc Physiological
Basis for the Science of Mumc, whether Ancient or
Modurn. By W. Chappell, F.8,A. (Chappell k Co.
and Simpkiii, 3f are hall A:; Co.)
SoMK years ago, at the house of 3fr. Grote, Ihst great
historian suggested to Mr. Chappell that he might most
worthily «pply his knowledge and Echolarfhip by writing
a history of music as it was known Mid pra«:tisid among
the Greeks. The subject, it may be readily supposed,
was not a new one to .Mr. Chappell ; but out of tne sug-
gestion on the part of Mr. Grote has come to us this
lirst volume, complete in itself luid sufficiently described
in the title-page, of a History of the Art and f^cience of
Muf'ic general ty. No living man possesses higher quali-
ftcAtions for such a task ; and, in the volume before us,
Mr. Chuppell proves the excellence of his qualificutiona
by the way in which he arrests the attc>iition of the
antiquary, excites the admiration of the scholar, and, by
his geniality and grace of style, gives new delight to tike
general reader. In the Introductory Chapter, Mr.
Chnppe]l demolishes, good-humourcdly, the former his-
tories by Hawkins and bv llurney, but he prefers Sir
J<»l)n to the Doctor. ^Ihe latter relied much on
Boetbius, who *' took up music simply as a branch of
arithmetic," and who ^' could not even tell whether a
Greek scale began at the top or the botk»m." Muste
owes less to Bgethiu!« (and to those writers who looked
on it as a branch of astronomy connected with the
music of the spheres) than it does to Ctestbius, the
Egyptian barber, who invented the hydraulic organ.
Mr. Chappell has made a working model of this aneioot
organ to test the principle, and " it answers perfectly.'*
Mr. Chappell gives numerous proofs of the vast antiquity
of the art and «clence of music, all replete with interest.
His book does honour to himself and to literature. Itis,
moreover, well illustrated,— from the frontispiece, re-
presenting a ladies' musical party in Egypt, about
the time of Moses, to the caricature of another party, in
mIi ' '' -c« IIL is represented, by some audscioaa
I' ray, as a lion, sweeping the lyre, while
CI Ii ,:iring as an ass, u crocodile, and a nonie-
fciipt aiiinikil, proudly accompany the Grand Maestro
among musical majesties. Mr. Chappell ends his Tolume
tn the good old-fa<iinoncd phrase " lAus Deo ! ^* May he
be well sped from the Source to which he offers pratM in
the renmmiler of his ta^k, with liealthfortts accomplish-
ment, and long enju^rnient from all accruing honour.
Aifount of l/ic Errr*'if>r^ fif fiirh/trrf, fiishf^p nf T.n'ndfm^
1303, ciwc* iff il ;^ ■ "" ' ' ' 0/
Ex^itr, 1310. \ the
]H:»s.4«saion of the 1 ^ .' ' ' . ^^^d
from the Archives \ji the Ciij/ of KjLeter By the late
Vcn. Henry Hale, Archdeacon of I^ondon, and the
Rev. H. T. Ellaciimbe. M.A., Rector of Clyst 8.
George, Devon* {Printed for the Camden Society.)
Tnit surviving editor of thl« interemting volume needs no
introduction to the reiulers of " X. & Q./' the columns of
which he has so often enriched by his contributions.
The Rev. Mr. Elkcombe modestly assign i all the merits
of editorship to his late venerable colleague. Archdeacon
Uale. It i« only for us to say that jointly they have
produced a volume which is full of iliustrations of the
episcopal life, professionally and socially, as it existed
in the lime of Richanl de Qnivesend and Thomas do
Button, at the cto»e of the thirteenth and at the be-
ginning of the fcHirisexith csnturka One marked
ISO
NOTES AND QUERIES-
IS^" fl. II. JuLv 18, 71*
difference between the two prtflnteu is recorded in tie
Inirodnction. '* The garderote of Bi«hop Button w(ib
filled with »idce« and grocery, thmt of liij^boji Ornresend
with boiika. * Archdeacon U&lo it of opttdoti that the
vj*lue of money when thise prelate* lived was not
firt^rcn, but only three times ita present value ; 240
pennies af full weight, making 20#. in tal^, contained,
flujB the archdeacon, a« much oXyqt as ftftj-gevcu Bbil<
linga imd five pence ot our present coin.
The Nt^ Quarkrl^ Ma^aLzintf {qt July, (Ward, Lock
TnB reputation which the iVrtP Qaarttrl^f boa aTready
ftcquired for what inny be called its *'perauna]'* illuft-
Irations is excclUntljr' au^ta*ncd in the July number iu
•*ihe Personal ULitory of Lord MftCAuUy/' by the Kov.
F. Am^ild. The writer, witli rca<iy ncknowleUjzmietit of
Loid Miiciiulay's great power^^ rtctiguiiees xbo \m weak-
nenes and defecui, and lie concludes that oritioism not
4iiigenrruui>, and evidence not to be gainsaid^ have
aeriuuely damaged Lord Maoaulay, and proved him to
be often partial and unfair in hi» stttttment^. The
•* Student Guilds of Germany" helps to show that
4tii.lliMg bus become more *' burlesque '* than heroic,
though a br&ve young fellow niay still be murdered at
it by a fool. The other articles are all *'good*'; und
ftill higher prake ia due to *' Meliora Latent," which is
trortb more than any score of the noyels of the day«
M&. Wm. Jackson wfit«a:— *'I urn compilinn: a pedi-
jjree of the Rkbraond family, of UiKbbeat '^ ' ' 'utn-
berland, from wil]4?>, pnri.sh regiaterf, and ual
sources, and am very de§iruu9 to eeo a pri' Jtcd
book, entitled Tht Life of tStr Francis Dnjdt, H;iUi soihc
Amount of tht JHchmond FamU^ of highltmd CatiU,
Will any poBsewor of the volume Jtindiy allow me to
infpect tbe tame for a few dajrsi
'* Fleatham Huose, 8t, Bees by Cam forth/'
|TniOLTrn wishes tbe name of an illustrated work con*
Jining the cotit. of anni, crest, and motto of all person ■
irao have bad them granted by the Henilds*Collegef uid
the reasons.
Goon Nsw9 FftOM Frawce. — Where Young^i Night
Tfuruohit and Hervey's Mtditatton* were once »o
popular, we learn, with gati^f action, that Cowpcr Las, at
laat. been introduced to tbe acceptance of the French
Cublic- Thi* has been done by M, LC'on Boucher, in a
undiiomc volume, entitled WUiiatn Coftper^ *a Corre-
$pondaHce tt §es Potixu.
Mt3* OF LKTTStis will be interested in tbe new re-
search e« on the history of the discovery of the VenuA of
ililo which have bctn made, by M, Jean Aicard^ among
documeiits hitherto unpublished, »nd which he has pub-
lished uiider the title La IVnui dt Milo.
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Mr. Kesin A. Wight, of Kew York, to the fund being
nused for Mrs. MoJcon.
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Our CoRRESPOjenKHTS vitl, ire '• '*' -^
^eftttit^ to tkem.^ lotk for (htir iaJie^
Tkiti tfuv Fhrf^fM. writf r.lr-tirhf v , J ofl
one side of tl (ml
ahtl word* ; '
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In the "Curious Tr^asonnblc Letter' (5"' Sr it. 6) i
^cfcrence^ by nurobtra at the foot of the letter re
spunded to tnc italics in tite written letter ; but whc;ll
the letti?r wa^ printed tbe tiun»ber« no longer referred
corrootly to tho trceuonnblc word*. Thia is now
ri^htud below: —
line wor4
word
line word
i
1 Thin U
5
2 are 5
11
2 itVTfV* 4
1
li teen 4
11
S MuU 10
line
0
10
11
. tbe
<'';hj**d_
from
4 of
6 lin<
7 fwef y
7 ui
pLTptFT OaBUY ELWE^.— \^- ^ " -^ **•
ing reply from a well -401
portrait you forwarded to '
14 a portrait of Hans Bolbtiu the yuuLger,
picture which has been engruvcd more thdn once. Thf|
crik^inal (print) of the enctotied l« not known to mo, bu
other copies from tbe picture are known. The engra'v
mime, which your correspondent gives iia * I^ailin_^
or some such name,' is probably Benjumin Iteading, wb«
worked in London in the bitter half of the last ccnturv.
•*F. G. Stepdexs/'
F* E. Hoe (Sabibur^^) will And a large amount of in-]
forniatiork concerning the origin and btbliogm]jbv
Tfu Poemt of A fairs of SUtte in '* i\. k Q./* -4^* S. iL ij
244, 3f>l, 409, 470, In the piipers indicated by the
references the hiitory of the book, and ita various cdi-^
tions, is very fully illustrated.
Wkstoate. — Such false inielhgence is nothing new.
David was told that Absalom had stain *' all the king^
sons" when he hod slain but one^ Amnon^ and the
rest were galloping tbcir mules towards David^s bottse,.
But, fast as they galloped, tbe false tiews went faster
Jklesaweth.— See " N. & Q./' T* S. xl 343, 3Tk: 3"^
S. li. 104, 285; 4"' S. xii- MO, 357. The vesselwatfl
named the " Uhkttou,'* after the pansh of that name iai
Bunta. She performed the exploit in 1796. See Jam'
Naval Iliftort/^ vol. i.
W, A. a— For articles on Rotten Row, B«e " N. Ir C
1*' S. i. 441 ; ii. 235 ; v. 40, 360 ; 2-* S. iv. JifiS ; 8^* al
213,361,443; xii, 423, 500.
George Stepbekj (Chcapingbavenj DetmiiirlL)^
" Bonnyclapper." See '*X. &. Q,/* 1** 8. vi. 318; %^
375: 4^8. ix. 29*5.
li. S. B.— Pleaao subdivide tbe query ; it is retume
for that purpose.
A> DE L, U. — Probably as old as brides and sunsbiac. '
Ve WIT AS.— Name and address of writer wanted.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
61
tA^JTDON^ 8A TURD A T, JUL V zs. 18^4.
CONTENTS, --N' 30.
^ Fsroytb, the Fiwt Prindpwl of Bnseoaic CoUei^^
64^1^fT» Epttapli, 6J3 — Itmulttr AoosntiiftUoni—
l^LUnn^ rsralltli— IktokJi of Tr&vel— Maij Q\]««d of SooIb
■M tt<r AocoMti-^Kirclx's Com«t of Iti^O i7X (MK
— PoHw, or La IlodW"-Pliii&liig— Clw-lc« F*oiils'—
of WtUIuu 1 , 67-^o«iiiift Soutbcotc— SituUe VVanled
—••On* raati'i mMV" Ac.— silver Cmmwtll— *• D«lii0log7"
^Aslbof Wftotod— Fhkm Sir B^^tnirt WLl»OQ*t Noto-Boolc—
T1i« BAlloU'The Fyudani Moo urn on t in GMldriy Clionsli,
IK— Sebtpf* or Sibley— The Willow rattflm — " Ptuket '^ —
dem^**A Wftlk In atiitluiii^" 6D.
I;— The FiffbUat Uie laches of Perth, 69 — "The
Ptcbirt GsmoTy/' 70— FfoW-Loro : Cwrr, Inij, Arc,
ClSfh of Burnt— The fimperor AleiiAdor II., 72—
— cv Sdwud MuU Wlaglleld, 73— '*Tli« Thr«e IlMn"—
*• Pr»«hli«^ • — lloTCunr Water — " No whon " — MAfch
O^i — " Pm**— Christy CMl^ctlons^*' Yaniry Moniay "—
••Th« Bona/ Hotiic ^ ;,ow"—
niah«th Ouiniag — m," or
niM "Klbh*ocl"^TJi -Drury
Btmm — ■• SoliiUdtf " — " l^e ciuin wy : Gondii li Fiit* " —
'*Fnl lo buck"— Gip«y BurUb- Why Adun OMazii North,
fig«t> »0d West— fdri^atliUn MoQOUiOA^Quoitfi —
/ flKftllT— "Th- w ": Bittern, 7«^Col- in
CM'fiU'-Prkcea ct Koynl — 8. CAttMrine of
— r^^l-nui -( it AprO SO, l&a9— Rev.
B « I r,cull!ir i^p'-IMoe — *' P«>nteco«t"* m a
-A Swale F*mUy— Flogging in kichooU—
TIm 9»ir. < ^impcoa & Co., 7^^ — "l>mld" — The
SPELLING REF0RM8.— No. IL
I I would next invite the &tt4?ntion of the rwideri
mi "N, & Q.y" with a view of reform, to the
Mfewin^ ruUa of spelling r —
L MotDOS^rUAblea ending Id oqc con^naDt, pre-
oeded Uj odj due vowe^ double tb€ luftt letter
when a suffix Veg^nning with a Tovrel u added.
SL DJaiyUablet aoceDtod on the kst syMablo,
Ibe same oondltioiUi are treated in the same
negatives of these two rules are : —
L Monosytiables, and aliso diissyUAblea-accented-
«ft-the-last-8vllablef enilitif^ in a single consonant,
db not double it: (1) if more thun one vowel imme-
dm$^ preocdea it ; (2) If the liD^t l«tter but one
tt a oonBonanto
li. Ko diaiyUabte, even if it ends in one con*
Mmm^ ptecvded bj only one vowel, doubles the
Jail miat oo r^seivtng the now part, unless the
aoeml of tk» word is on its final sylinble.
Tbii« : rttj^ end?* in orio oonwniint, and has only
m» if, heni'o w#^ are to WTit«
^f <-ed, f/itn?<-ing^ &c»
IJLiL\ii na- in one vowel before the
Iteat muQOUiM i:^ BOt to be doubled under
tiv C0ciiinitau<'('-^ xi..uf:-d^
Eaiairr hoi not a vowel at all preceding tiie
final consonant, so the nde does not apply to words
of that tj'pe.
Similarly, peter', accented on the la»t gylkble,
ends in one consonnnt, and that coasonant is pre-
ceded by only one vowel, hence we are U} write
df/etr-cdf <hferr-'ing, dtferr-ei, ^c.
But DirVKR, although it terminatefl in a idmilor
Wii)% renifiina unchanged throughout, becanse it is
Dot accented on the la^t syllable.
In like manner reveal' uiukes ret'f<^^ ^^ - ^^?-
in^, &c., b^jcause lAore than one vov i-*
the final consonant; and disturb' maL.. „. ...6-
ance, lUsturb-eTf disturb -ed, &c., because the final
consonant is not immediately preceded by a vowel
at all
There seems a certain method in these rules, and
no doubt they may be applied to many words, but
they have these ^eat objectiona : (1) They have
so manj" ''ifs'* and "buts'^ that it is very hard to
teach thera to childt^n ; (2) There are »o many
exceptions that pnKttcally they are of very little
value ; and (3) The whole theory is based on an
abmirdit^'.
The root of the evil in this : we have most iin-
wisely rejected accents, and have resorted to sundry
shifts to compeneate for them : one way h to insert
an extra vowel, as biT, bier; Utyfeet; girts, gooMe;
rip, rtfipy &c.; but the most general plan h the
clumsy addition of a mute e, as hiis, rtousf ; f^r,
Jire; fyl,//«,* Ml, idk; w^d, i(?i<&J ,- fif,^f<?; giSt,
gaU^ and so on.
Thus, the old English thin has the t short, but
th(n the i long. Hanng abolished the accent of
the latter word, and wanting to show that the %
is long, we have added a raute e to the end of the
word, converting thin into thine.
This very foolish contrivance has involved us in
a host of troubles, and practically deprived us of
the valuable service of a final t or « sonant. Thus
we cannot in English express the Hri me
for Juno (ntr6)i nor Fhow whether ■>*:$
is a word of four or five syllables, y1^M/^';.w-v of
three or four. The kw word ^frra^munire would be
pronounced in three syllables by the untaught, and
not one in a hundred could say if zancn is to l>e
pronounced sm/ia, or zn-ncs. I question wli»^hct
any of the raoat learned readers of "N, & Q,"
have not occasionally stumbled on a word ending
in f or « which has not suggested the question,
** I wonder how this word h pronounced"; for my
own part I candidly confer I never dare utter
such a word in public till I have heard it pro-
nonnced, or have solved the mystery in some other
way. This ought not to be, and would not be^
but for the reason objected to.
What hi»H been said above ia only half the cviL
We have lengthened the once-removed vowel by
lidding U* the word t tnuk, but tind this lett-eir
sadly in the way when a suffix beginning «vCVi*.
vowel la retiulred. T^e lot ^il»xcv^\^ ^<£. v»3^>:vx^
^^i
62
NOTES AND QUERIES.
I5*8.1I.Jetr2S;7l.
word cdr[i\]. Vie drop the accent, and cornpen-
ate for its loss by t muif, converting the word
tr into care (an oblique case of the original one).
7e find the e troublesoine when -f^, -ing^ &c,, are
to be added ^ so we drop it out^ writing car-cd and
ear-in^, as if from ** cxir,'' a carringe ; we pick it
lip again in eare-fulj care-kssy &c., and all this has
to be maatered before we can spell care and its
compounds. Probably it would be difficult to
introduce back the di^cjirded accents^ otherwise
the ob\dous remedy would be c<ir, CKiredf caring^
carfuUy cArUsSf but if the e mute must be retained,
the next best way is the one ^ug^ested in the
previous pajjer, car«, cared, cardngy carefully earc-
l€4i$j the e belong merged into the e of the suffix in
the ^cond case, and retained in all the other
compounds.
Even here the uiischief ceases not; like evetr
lie it needs a blind red others to make it stand.
Having absurdly enough added e mute to lengthen
a vowel, we next lulopt the rule that the vowel
precediurf the eon sou ant shall be long imlhout the
c, provided the suffix attached begins with any
vowel whatsoever, as -ana'.^ -ant, -uij?, -ity^ -ol^ and
so on. Tlius taring [car-ing] is supposed to have </
long ; droning [dron-ing]j o long ; driit-ing nud
driv-cr^ i long ; and so on. We have thus driven *
oui'selves into a corner with a Urge class of words
** ending in a single consonant preceded by only
one vowel," and to meet the difficiilty adopt another
shift, fpite as absurd as any of the preceding,
which 13 this : we gJiortcu a vowel once-removed
by doubling the final consonant* Thus, as skin-
ing is already assumed to be shm-ingj with the
I long, sin-ing must be changed into sinn-ing to
show to the eye that the vowel is short, j'et have
we »muoii^, inshmati^ shictry slnltkr^ and so on.
I freely grant that our favourite ''Anglo- Saxon *'
had an c accidental (not mute), but then like u it
was declensioniil, and marked out a series of
suffixes for the several caaes of the noun ; having
abolished inflexional cases, we have no need of the
declensional sign.
I also allow that our ancient English in some
instances doubled the final consonant, but pro-
bably all such words ended originally in double
consonants, one of which had been sufiereci to
drop out of tise : thus '* bed '' is a corrupt form of
hedd, ** den '• of deuTiy ** mim " of numny " thyn "
[thin] of tkynny '* wit " of mtt, ** wan " of tcanHy
&c. So tliat our obvious plan is either to restore
the lost consonant to the primitive word, and
retain it throughout, or to drop it in the aimple
word, and in all its compounds. As the matter
now stands, we blow hot and cold with the same
breatL
Let ua now state once more one item of the rule
• How i* it tliat driven hu o ihort e, according to
ipdling uiftIog7 ? All !■ pUin in the original drifC^n],
to drifc ; dm/f drove ; drjftn, driven.
given above. DiasyUables, unless they are accente
on the final s^dlable, never double the last con
sonant when a new syllable is added ; they do i
if more than one vowel precedes the final eon
sonant ; they do not if no vowel at all precedes i^
they do not even when they end in a single
sonant, preceded by a single Towel, because th
accent falls in the wrong place. The word giv
above, by way of illustration, was differ^ whidi i
compared with ik/er. The latter being acoento
on the last sj'llable makes dtftrr-td^ dtferr-ing^ &c
the former not being accented on the last syllabll
makes differ -cd^ differ-ing.
The lii-st palpable observation is that the ruU
will not apply even to the favourable examp'
selected, for dcfer-eac^y de/tr*cnt%al^ are as mud
under the rule as dcferr-cr and dcftrr-ed. If it (
objected that the accent on derercnoe is thron
bock, and in deferen'tial is thrown fom'ard, imotT
condition must be added to the nde, namely,
lung jis the accent remains on the same syllable,^
rule which woidd not bear the slightest examinatiQ
We have nine dissyllables ending in p,
accented on the last syllable ; six of these ob
the rule, and three are nonconfonmsts. For (
ample : —
Gos'sir makes gompp-tVy gommp-td^ gossip
Kic^KAr makes lcidiiajpp-€/ryhiana.i>p-td^ kxdnaf
ing.
WoRSHir makes tcorshipp-er, wcrshipjt-cd^y
Mpp~iiuf.
Manifestly accent has no part or lot in
matter.
The six conforuxin^' words are fillip, gall
scallop, scollop, [delvelop, [enjvelop, and wallop.
Fillip mi\kes Jillip*ed^ jUHp-mg*
Gallop makes galU^p^de^ ^awop-er, gt
gaUop'ing,
Scallop makes scallop'tdy seallop'ing.
Scollop, the same.
Wallop makes loallop-ery icalhp-cd, icall&v^in
Dc and e»-VELOP moke dcvclott-ed, dti^ticp
dcvelop-ing; and "envelop" follows the
example.
As there is no eailhly reason why the first
words of this team should kick over the ti
let them be at once reduced to order, and
gom]^€T^ hidnap'CT, worship- er^ and uniformly
the simple word intact in all the compounds.
The refractory words in / are more numerooa.
There are altogether seventy- two words of
syllables, accented on the first syllable, nnd
forming to the conditions of having one consoni
for the last letter, preceded by 'only one voweh
these words thirty -six conform to the nile,
thirty-six are a rule unto themselves.
The simplest way of exliibiting these words will
be to put them in vowel order.
There are twenty? ix in aZ^ three of which rel
against the rule.
t:
& n. JoiT 26, 71.)
NOTES AND QUERIES.
63
Equal mhkm equall'tHf eauaU-iti^, nnd, to make
BUkU^FB worse, equiU-itij^ aUhough the accent is
mittllt to the last syUable of the simple word,
Maarhal makes mar$hall-cd, manhaU*ti\ trwir-
t^M-in^^ but we have manhal'tiea^ matthal-ship^
l« perplex young spellers.
diOKAL 18 the third licentioua word. Tt tnnkea
ii^naU-^, i%tp%fdl-ing^ &c., but #i^ia/-»V.
these three wanis are ontroted by tvrenty-
they ought, without farther question, to drop
t-niHrnitrnertvrj* if.
thpee conform in^'^ words which retain
itKumils the original form are hmtal^
"ntdt fortnaif frugal ^ loculj
'\ tpfcialjVmal^ nnd vocal;
ttdd tiuiftUil^ /tderal, ifeneralt Wtcral^
^iiaiional^ and rational.
tho*»e ending in -d, the number? nre nearly
rcverseil» thirty double the hust /, and four do not,
■o here ia a yeiy nice tnemaria Ucknka for the
yottM:—
1. Nercr double the laat lot ten
2. Jn the twenty-si^c words ending in -al there
Vt t^ — >^^^ ^ - ^, which must be learnt by rote.
*^ liiree words ending in -« there
nf? t't»'>u8, but it will be more easy to
leftTi the three which are not exceptions.
4, 1- ,--. -IX words ending in -il three go one
Iwijr md three another; the learner mar master
b. Of the eight remaining (in -ol and -uf), none
wm nfiiictory. Our examiners are surprised that
oor children spell so badly ; would it be less than
j» miracle if they could cram all this into their
hmAt at the age of eight or nine ?
Hi* three ending in -tl which remain true to the
toI* are —
CtttsRi^ ikiUl-tA, fhiul-in^, chistl-er*
PaEat
ti» (one
The !:
the tin^i >.v
£3!r
*l [lir ucctMK;.
•nforming won! a which double
', -^ Tn«/, dtaptl (not c/www^-rf/),
/d, ((rivd, {€in}lHiwdf SOmd
.J ,,....,/ J,o..*v7 7...^./^
The other words in I conforming to the con*
ditions remain unchanged throughout : as CAEol
makes carol-ed^ earol-iiuft caTol-rr; consul, eon*
snl-ar, coni^ul-aUj &c. ; oaitbol, gamhol'ing^ gavi-
hol'td^ &c. ; sTMBot, f!ymhoUis£^ symboUical^ &c.
The number of exceptions in p and I are just
equal to the number which conform to the rule,
and the question is, which should be made to give
\^'ay \ There cannot be a doubt, that the best plan
would be to let every word remain in its simple
state throughouti and merely add the sufHx, espe-
cially as many of those which double the last
letter with some b affixes do not double it with
others : thus, aqimll-ing, fqual-ize, e^iuai-ihj ; goi-
pell-erj go9j>d-izey &c. Even if we except the suiHx
izfj we have the rebellious tranquill'Vus to con-
tradict lis.
The sum of the matter is this ; at once abolish
the supemumemty p in the compounds of jomj),
kidnap J and wordiip.
At once abolish the supernumerary I in the
compounds of tqual (half of which go one way and
half another), rnarthal and tigncU.
At once abolish the supernumerary t in the
compounds of bei'il and Hvet, caril and tranqni!.
There will then remain the thirty in -e/, and I
have no hesitation in saying let the useless letter
be dropped without remorse.
By this means we lose nothings and simplify the
spelling of a large number of wordn.
£. OoBiiAM Brewer.
Lavant, Chichester.
[Da. Baswsa s replies to comments on hEs "SpsUiag
Keformfl*' are deferred till he hu concluded the main
subject.]
(To hi €0ntinutd.)
)'md^ and travd,
i\ double the tiital I are —
MKVisL, k:t'Ut'€il, bcnU-ing^ and
1
Bkviiu and
h^mH-inij.
r
1
Thm llir«9 wmfonni«t« toe civil, civil-ian, cm7-
id, r : ■
I'
rranfiuilt^i:.^!^ &c. (not
^♦^nled kidneys*'), divil-idi,
SHAKflPEARIANA.
Measuek for Measure, Act i. bc. 1, IL 6-7
(S^** S. i. 3t)4.)— Mr. R J, Fuknivall's nostrum
is but a colourable variation of Mr, Spedding^s
** I add Commission ample," &c* Both commit a
fault in '* / add/' which pronoun cannot govern
" let " in the next line. Theobald, Hanmer, and
Tyrwhiit avoide*! this, by reading respectively,
** you add/' " yov joyn/' and " you p^it." If these
emendations are on the right scent, it would seem
that we should read —
" But that to you ■ufSclency [you take
Thiiyour ComniimonJ, at your worth is able.
And fct them work,"
i, «., " Ami that you let them work together for
the public weal" Jabcz.
Athenasum Club.
P.S.— 8. T. P. (5*>» S. L 263) will find Bddami
for "Bcdhim'* (King John, iL 2) in Ingleby*s
CompkU VHt^ (ff thi Sh4tks}}crf Controvi'nyt 18(51,
p. 205. The word al»o occurs in the sama ^^a^^
IV. 2 ; but, all the same, '* BiB^^m" \a tnj^vV.
m
u
JOTES AND QUERIES. ts^an.Jn.tSp.'yc-
Grkene's ** UrsTART CHOW." — I do Dot remem-
ber to have s^en it pointed out that the epithi't
" crow," applied by Greene to Shukspeare in the
GrmUworih of Wii^ 15d2, had been previously
applied to Greene's opponents by his friend and
fiily, Eliote. in the French sonnet prefiaced to
FfTvnitdes ilu BlaeksfniXh^ 1588, As the passage
m not quoted in Mr. Dycfi'a Life of Grmifj I
pve it : —
*<CoiiTmgej doBC je dis, mon amy Greene, covjnge :
M^priie del chiens, corb-e»ux ct chathuans U rage :
JBi ({(lorieax) endure letir muklignantc furie.
Zojlo urricire, arriere Momus ohien enrage,
Furieux naiustin hurlant au croiasant argentc :
Greene jamais Dnyre sauroii ta calomnie.*"
The existence of a lively feud of some years'
standing between Greene and the players has not,
I think, been sufficiently considered by niaoy of
the writers who h&ve commented upon the "w ell-
known passage of the Groaisimrth.
C. Elliot Browne,
In Shakspeare's play of Th^ Tempest, Act iv. sc 1,
Fertlinand, in replying to Prosperous injunctions as
to his bebaTiouT towards Miranda, says : —
'' Ai I hope
For quiet dayi, fair ietuei and long life.
With rack love as *tia now, the murkiest den,
The mof t opportune place, the etrong'st tuggiiatioti
Our woTser genius can. shall never mdt
Mine honour into lust,*' ke.
So far as I am aware^ this passage baa hitherto
gone unchallenged, zmd yet it seema to contain a
misprint of no small importance «» regaida the
cleame«s of the idea it is meant to express. Is it
not pr<»babte that Sbakspeare int-cnded Ferdinand
to say that no conjuncture, however pressing, of
iimt, place, and ijidmatimi, should overcome his
sense of duty : and that, oonseauently, instead of
** den," in line 3, we should read e'en," or " gt'd."
It is easy to see how, without much asaLatfl-nce from
bad penmanship, the one word may have lapsed into
the other. It is not easy to see how, in such a
mind afl that of Ferdinand, the idea of a " den *'
should at all connect itself with the supposition to
which he was referring. And a still stronrjci
argument against the present reading is, that the
tantoloCT displayed in the use of both " den *^ and
** pliice^ indicates a slovenlinesa of composition,
not to say confusion of thought, which we do not
often find in 8hak6pe&ie. C. T.
Liverpool.
Favour, —
" S]pe«dL Is ihe not hard-faToored, Sir ?
Vol. Not 10 fair^ boy, aa well-favoured."
Tico Omilemen of VwronOf it 1«
I How H^-^^ /'livttfr in the old writers oome to bear
bis 1 Is it a oorruptton of faiturt^
atuic . .. evidently refers to features* not comr
plexioD, ais the above passage shows. F. J. V,
Was HASiLfiT FatI (5*** S. i. 484. V- If Mn,
KEifNEDir refers to the Cambridge Shakmptare^
edited by MeF^rs. Wright and Clark, he willUnii he
has been anticipated in the suggestion that "fill**
is ik misprint for '^ faint.'' I have no doubt of imch
being ihe cose. Jatbxc
Mr. Spedding has just sent me two re^amuDtge-
ments of passages in Lmr^ which he made thirtyj
two years ago, and which I agree with him in
thinking manifestly right. The tizst is nftneiMMiiJ
as a pendant to its foregoing lines^ — ^
" They flattered me like a dog ; and told me I bad
white hairs in my beard ere the black onei weie Hufv.**
(A reproof of the flattery must follow this.)
second makes better metie, F. J. F,
In AWs Well that Ends Well (Act il so. 1) ^
find—
" Oft expectation fails, and moat oft there.
Where most it promisca."'
Had he in hi^ thoughts the character of Gftlbft I
represented in Ta^^itus {RisL, L 49)2 — *'""
privato visus, dum privatus fuit, et omniu
sensu capax imperu, nisi imperAsset.'' It is i
that one of the sayings (cbtiv.) of La
cauld is based upon it— "II eat plus
paraitre digne des emplois rju^on n^a paa i
eeux que Ton exerce," which is proved eT€(
to be true of the political world.
0. T. EAMAfiB.
MATTHEW SMYTH. THE FIB8T PRlNCrPAL OF
BRAZENOSE COLLEGE, OXFORD.
Mr. Churton, in his Lives of the FQund^sri
Brazmose, mentions the above as one of the I "
men of Bishop Smyth, but he was unable to dl^
cover the exact degree of rchUionship in wh* ""
Matthew stood to that prelate ; for (says he)
of the pedigrees which I have seen acknoi
him, nor have I been able, from any other aij
fully to authenticate the fact that he was of 1
the Founder/'
By his will, dated December 11, 1547, V
Smyth constituted his nephew WiUiiu
B.D., parson of Barton-in- the- Clay, aiiu
Morwent, his executors ; bequeatluog a tenemefl
and lands in Sutton, in the parish of Prtscot,
Lancaster, to his nephew Baldwin Smyth, and I
heirs, on condition thjxt they should pay tw^en^
shillings yearly to the usher of Famwortn school :
"The place of bis birth iLancashire), the sihjation <
his cBtate, and the term of hia bequestg (»>
ton), concar to proTe him to have been a br: i
Cnerdley family. If his nephews, William h
were the two brothers so named^ aoni of Bol
as stated in two of the pedifrrees, he must I»
brother of ihe Bishop of Lincoln who has e&cuped the
r«eearchee of horalda and genealogist?.
*' Baldwin Smjth, a name that rarely oocutr eZsewkerer
WM an asnstant to the manciple of Braxenoae CoUegev
iMiA
IPMI. Jclt25,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
m
mad mlao groom of the CoHej^e in the ^car 1644 tmd
Pmfivnr%td»: but wd can b^dlj rappose a, penon oe<
cupjriDg either or both or these namofo tliAioBa to hnro
been a nephew of Uie Priiicip&l.*'
The Baldiriii Bmyth here referred to 10 staCecl
in the pedigree extracted by Mr, Chiirton from
the apohivea of Brazenose, to hare "married in
London/* and to have bad " divers Issue ^' ; and in
another pedigree* he has two dangbters, Eliza -
■ "beth, wife of Robert Cromp, and Bridget, wife of
Edward Thurland.
There is also another Baldwin Smyth, who,
with bi5 brothers, Hugh (of Cueitiley), WUliam.^
nd Thomaa (of Oxford), id mentioned in seveml
I of the pedigrees
] But 1 have been fortunate enough to discov er
the will of the real Baldwin, in a collection of
[ Xjinca«»hire and Cheshire wiHs formed bv Ran die
Hohiie in the Harl MS. No. 2067» fo. 127^; and
Ijithough it does not enable me to indicate the
f in wbieh the Princiiwil of Braiienose wm re-
ft to the founder, it furnishes some infonna-
\ not ftlTorded by Mr. Chorton'8 researchea.
is dateil Feb, 27, 1565, and the testator de-
faimself as of Widnees, in the county of
ler, yeoman.
• a religion? preamble, he devises to liiB son
1 all that meeauage in Hit it on ^ late in the
BOn of William Hill, deceiLsed, with the
Ibereto belongin^^ to hold for life, paying
vwly to Hichard Bold, of Bold, EHi[., and his
hoMf tvpenhf shillings ti) tht mt 0/ an mher at
#flim uvriA^ and to snch other uses as is specified
n| vnl&^gB of award ; and paying also yearly to
M^ 4)fcMiilor*8} wiie two Ahiliings for her life ; and
fnnaindeT, after the d^th of the aaid Richard,
Itia (testotor^s) son William Smyth, and hi^i
t for tr&r, ** if the mid WUl*" after ray deeeaM
finale Rftger Hmjrth, my eldest sonne, with
' I^^emge, and appareli, imtill be
tmvenient livelyhood."
01 hia son Richard not occupying
iia^, and employing it to his own
iiiuu iir J*? vised it to bis son William Smyth,
Ma heir« for ever ; naying the same renta, and
to i1.'« ^ n-1 Richard 10/. within one year
Ef^fuse to dwell upon the same,
^^lid William, and liis heirs,
t in a certain messuap^'C,
M? holding of Ralph Hunt,
ld9C«4«5i, '* if be keepe ray sonne Roger as afore-
^ II tboctUl be meatioDcd th&t the vnri oug pedifcretif
wr OMi^d^mhlj qoc from tbe othf r. Id one, Bishop
fclflli ftiedM ««i»» -.< /•-/-' ^t,,iH. ^f Peel Houie; in
• taoODd, pDft f jcrdley: and in 4
•IliH. eoo of J V. AndatthoMgh
Hr. CliattoneaiK Mtn th'- i-vrrth --r.ji of Robert Stnyth^
of Ptoil Orm^ Widnem, in tho pmtuh of Pretcot, co.
' Tfhe ailmit^ that he hsu onlj adopted from the
.pcdlgrcet that accoiuit which aeems upon the
i t9«al eooitotent and probable.
said/* and provided that he suffered the wiffe nod
children of the swd Ralph Hunt to oceu|iytfe
same*
He gives to Sir Thomas Hill 2^, to pray for him :
to his lm>tKei\Mr, WUHam S^ttytk^ 20*, ; to his
landlord, Mr. Ogle, a bti»bel of cmts ; to hia wlf^
huH bhick filly and a bedstead ; to his throe MP-
vants^ twelve-pence a piece ; to Thomas Rathbone,
his servant, his beat hose-, and ** the ruBset claaCli
tlj f f 'boater, payingo for the hewinge mi
d 1 reof " ; to Thomas Ellam, hia ** nimett
coau' ; uj liig Bon William, his best coat ; and lo-
his sons Roger and Richard, his " next '' coat.
The reaidue of hi^ gootU he directs to be di'?ided'
into three parts, one of which he gives to Mami^l,
bia wiffe, another to bi« daughter EUen, and the
third equally between his t)]rce sons, Roger, Wil*
liam, and Richard. Hb wife to have the keeping
of the said EUen, and her share of the goeda^ **m
long as she will tarrie with her/* The ** seedkige
thiii yeare " to be divided iuuong his wil^ md
child pen.
Finally, he appoints bis wife, his son Willism^
and Robert Hichem>ugbe, his eiecutors, and hb
brother, Mr. William Smyth, supervisor.
H. Stdnet GaAZEBRoor.
Stourbridge.
Taaffk Epitaph.— The following epitapli of
one who, in hia own times, must have held a veij
prominent position in a family of groat hktom
uoto, is a striking im^tance of the un trust worlhiiiMi
of the printed and MS. t>edigree9 of the family of
Tiiailb. The papers rebttlng to the attainder af
Christopher Tttitfle, already referred to in "N. & Q.,"
and the genealogical information conveyed in than,
although of the most important description (being
connected with considerable estatea), have been
ignored in the pedigrees in question, as any one
may asoertain who goes no farther than the pub-
liEhed rooorda (Hib, CanocU.}.
Inatead of these pedi^es being of any uae^
beyond affording a ^naraX idea of the ramificsitiQnv
of an extem<ivo family, they rather tend to obaonrr
a knowledge of the subject, by the suppression or
overiookuiff of pjraminent members* and the ailb-
atitution df othera of leas note, if not of younger
branahaa»
JSftUapk of Stephen Taaftt S»qKin, m DnMc CkmtfL
** fn the bpaeath tomb, i^ buried the bodv of Btffphen
Taaff, Kiq., with that of the Honhle. AlicePluaket, <m^
of thedaaghteraof the Right Huxible. Matt. Lord bo wth,*
bis 1* wife, who died in the year 17"7, aged 3(J jeanN^
And of the Right Honhle. Mabd Barnwell^ one of the
duughters of the Rijjbt Honble, Henry Vigcount Kifin.
Und, and L&dj Dowoger of Lowth,t his '2^ wife, wdko
died in the year 1711, ag«d 37— And of hit father, Law-
* 3ffttthew, lefcntb liArcm
f Widow of Oliver
only sou J Matthew, ,
rod, bi 'wViOTa. ^% \i^%^
m
NOTES AND QUERIES.
f.9' a n. JtrLr2K.^4.
re ace Ti*ff| Em|., who died . « . . the ye&r 1709— And of
Bridget Burk^ one of the daughters of Sir .... Burkj, hb
3^ wife, who died in the year 171<>, aged 27 yeaw*
''The B&id Stephen, by his lut will and toitamcnt,
ftppointed the said tomb to be erected in i&emory of his
s&id lather, and aaid wireg, and as ii burial place for \m
poflterity. — Ho departed this life, the 15th of August,
1730, aged 60 je»n, Bequie^oat in pace."
A reference to the Fterage ami Baromtage will
not throH' any light oq these luamagea, or on
earlier iutenuarria^'ea with the FijigAll family.
Stephen Taiilie* had two sons— (I) Theobald (by
his firat wife), afterwards of Hanover S<iiiare, 8t.
George's, Middx., whosfi wife Buaanna's will is re-
corded in JaBiaicA in 1754 ; (2) Jolin, of whoni I
know nothing certain.
Stephen Taatfe appoint^jd the Earl of CarlLngford
his execQtor. As hna been ahown^ he was the son
of Lawrence Taatfe, find must have been bora aliout
1670, and Jialf-brother of Henry DowdaU.
It seems to me that Stephen was the son of
La\^Tence Taafte, of PeppiijnIstowD (son of Peter,
son of John Taaft'e and his wife, Anna Plnnket), and
uncle of Christopher TuaJ!e, son of Jame.*!, of Pep-
pardstown ; but that the Christopher, son of
George Taafte (deceased), mentioned in Stephen's
wilJ, Wits the stime LliriMtopber who bequeathed
hia piatola, &c»j to Theobtdd, Stephen^s son, in 173t>,
Finallj, I do not think that Sir Wm. Taaffe of
Smermor's (will 1 Vt2G) sons — Edward, James,
George, Christopher, and Ch»rles— have been proved
issueless, or that such important personages in the
fiimily as Charles Tfiatfe and his wite, the Lady
Susannah, should ho excluded from th^^ ii^digrees
given in *M Hutonj of the Family of Taaffe j
Vienna, 1856,^' fis fh>ra LHster's records. Sp,
Iksttlar AccEKTtJATiONS. — I once heard a very
excellent clergyman and popular preacher say in
the pulpit, " hAlen, hi^dee, hiMee," for ** holy, holy,
holy." He was a native of the I^le of T^Ian.
A I'wiy who resided several jeiirs in Jersey toM
me that the natives there accentuate English words
very strangely ; i',g,y a man said to her, " It was a
▼ery meldncholy occiirr^nce. He died of an
ap<ipl«ry/' S. T. P.
Literary Parallels.— In the First Part of
Sir John OldcaMlCf a dmma, by some nttribtited to
Shakspeare, a quarrel between Lords Herbert and
Bowia in the streets of Hereford is described, in
vhicL the Welsh retainers get very noisy. The
Chief Justice (it being Assize time) appears on the
scene, and the following dialogue ensues on the
Welsiunftn otferiog bail : —
" /atf^e.— What bftil, what Buretiea I '*
**Davy.—Ilat cozen up Rhice, ap Eran, up Mortce,
ap Morgan, ap Lluelyn, ap Madoc, ap Meredith, ap
Griffin, ap Dary, ap Owen, ap 8heukirt, »p Sbones."
*\fudgt» — Two of the moat ftufficient are enough.**
* Hifl town houBe wafl in King Street^ Dublin*
'* 5Am/f.— An please your wonhip they af« all bii
one t "
In Wamba's song, " The Widow of Wycotiibe^l
in IvatiJwef two verses run thus : —
"The next that came forth awore by blood and by n»ib
Merrily eang the roundeley ;
Hat's a gentleman, Qod wot,andbur> linea^are wa»of Wale
And where was the widow might say him nay?
Sir David np Morgan ap Griffith ap Hugh
Ap Tudor ap Rice, quoth hii roundeley,
She said that one widow for so raany wa* too few.
And ahc bade the WeUhman wend hit way.**
A. K-
CroeswyUn, Oiweitnr.
Books of Travel. — ** Behold what Mravelal
amount to 1 Are they not for the most part th
records of the misapprehensions of the misin
formed r' This delicious bit is in an article b|
Mr. C. D. Wamer, in the Atlantic Mojtthtv foi
May, 1874. W. H. P.
Mary Queen of Scots and Her AccrsERS,-
Mr. Hosackf in commenting upon the famou^
letters to Botbwell, has adopted a line of defenorf
which I believe to be quite new. Two r>f thflj
letters he admits to be genuine letters, written bf
the queen; but he supposes them to have beeq
addressed, not to BothweD, but to Damley, in thij
inter>^al between their supposed private luarnago
in April and their public marriage in Jtdy,
With regard to one of the letters, this iaitnpr-
The Letter 3 (the same which is Letter 8 in ]
TMjfsertalioii) sLates that she sends it by Paris wit!
a lock of her hair ; and further on she speaks
PariA aa one who was thoroughly trusted by hii
she is addressing. Now^ it is certain that Parti
had been a servant of Both well, and continued hid
servant until January, 1567, when, upon ih
queen's leaving Cullendar House for Gliisgovr,j
Both well made him over to her to be her chiimbep
lain. The i>erson who considered Paris so trust
worthy could only have been his former masterJ
and not Darnlev, who knew nothing al>out him,
J. C. M.
Kirch's Comet of 1680(1).— In the old paritii
register of Alstonfield, in the Staifordsbire moor
lands (one of the finest and best presen etl I luiv^
yet come across), is this notice of a coioet whic*
Haydn tells us, terrified the people from its ne
approach to the earthy and was visible from Zn
November, IC79, to 9th March, 1G80: —
**A very atrang k fiery Meteor, in form like a Sword
appeared north-weut by West in Dec. 16^), &l contiftue'
auout 6 wecki ; after which ensued a tediotui k Ion
DroMht, which began Aprill the 10^\ 1681, k continue*
till June the 20''' of the ? ' ^ 5 tUel
Wiaeit thought,) procured i aaee^j
OB Agues, strong ffearoura, .^m aitit;
tif which many died in v* Cvunir^y, cLifeiy in great
Cities k towns corporate,'
John Sleigh.
Highgaie.
^ S. a Jtru 25, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
6r
[We muit request correflpondenta deffiiing informiktioii
on fftmfly mattcrfl of onlj pHrate interest, to tkSix their
! tnd fcddresjses to tlmr queries, in order that the
t maj be B4dre88od to tbcm dLrecC]
PoBTKB, OR La Roche.— (1.) The GentUmanU
Ma^asirifi records the death, on the 7th January,
1753, of Mrs. Porter, mother of Sir Junies Porter.
Fh>lu the fiecount of the refugee family of D'Aubrcs^
or^ m llie name b now spelt, Daubrez, given in
Mr. Agnew^s valuable worJc upon the exilea from
Fnincc' in the reign of Louis XI V.^ I learn that
this hdy was the eldest daughter of the refugee
W dAubrc^H and sister to the Rev. Charles ^^;^^_j^_(3^^ -^ ^ Ij ^^^ ^, j
I>»abre2wn l.ir. Kector of Kotherham m York- , , ^^^, . ,^^ J. u^^ i^„^ ^' :^,
(2.) M. k Roche (afterwards Porter) left two
sons and one daughter, who died UDmam><i The
elder son^ Sir James Porter^ F,R,S, (knighted
Sept. 21, 1763), British Ambassador at the Porte
from Sept. 22, 1746, to May 24, 1762, and subse-
quently British Minister at Brussels, the author J
of scveml works on the Eitst, died (teste Annual^
Reguttr) in Great Marlborou'^h Street (qy, Bath or
Lotidtia if), December fl, 1776, aged sixty-six. The
yoini^or son, John Porter, belono;ed t^ the Salters*
C/Oiiip:* tiy. was elected alderman of Lime Street |
W'Avd Ajiril 6, HriS, and died dnt prok April IL,
175G, in the year of hia shrievalty ; he was tht»
colleague of William Beckford. He married
Anne, the eldest daughter of Claudius Amyand,
Family tmdition, as well ns Mr. Agnew,
that she married a Monsieur la Roche,
knoN*' not when or for how long a period, M.P.
for Evesham, Botli sons bore the arms above '
ICrV . '^''^ a Monsieur la nocne i,i,,^„,,^^ ^an any of your re.ulei^ tell me where
French refugee, who subsequently™ why :md ^^ ^.^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^j ^.^^ ^^ ^^^ l^^^^j^^ j
IS unknown— assumed the surname of Porter^ "^ PcRnimip T a »i>fvt
fetaining, however, the amis of La Koche, which
Appear, fn^m a bidly engraved book-plate in my
poese&sion, to have been (no tinctures can be de-
ciphered) *^in Imse, a rock (ntr six pointiJf, over
which » bird — I believe a hawk — between four
wing^" These arms are certainly of foreign ex-
traction. Can any one inform me where I should
look for further particulars regarding the jmrentage,
oamr, date;!} of birth, dcnth, &c., of this M. la
Koche t
Frbderic Larpext*
Calcutta.
Clarkz Family, — Any of the correspondents
of " N. & Q.^* who would aasist me with cilhiT
dates or localities, or any other suggestions or in-
formation enabling mo to continue the descentij of
the annexed pedigree, would oblige mc vety
greatly. The anterior portion from an early pericd
is fully recorded in the College of Anna.
KOYSSE.
Sunae] Clarke, of Kinjf«tborpe,^=^Margarct, dau. of Wm.
CO. Northampton, D.D., born Pcyt4, of Chefltcrton,
1 4 Dec. 1585^ died 1640, w. Warwick, Esq,
Geo. (Jterkc^=Parker.
of liondon.
I
Wni. Clarke,
a merclant.
Elizabeth
ibetl
Eleanor.
Elizabeth.
Mari^ret,
Jane.
Saml. Clarke,:^ Eli zth.| dau and
heir of Geo.
Knight, of Bray,
CO. Berks.
KatheriFio, married
Sir Rtchd. Ravi 1 9-
ford, Kt, Ban.m of
the Exchequer.
PtrxniNo:—
*' I'r. BaiTton waj a punster to tbe backbone. He
■ud. ' the fellow!^ of mj college ivished to have an organ
fa tJie cliaiieL but I put a stop to it ' ; whether for the
flake of (he pun, or because he disliked mmuc, is un>
eertam. He invited, for the love of puiininft^ Mr.
Cr ' ^Ir. Rookc to dine with himj and having
K 'Iniorc, aiLother |2:uest, a hint to be rather
b<i >^n his appearing he said, ' Mr. Rooke, Mr.
Onjm<t I beg leave to introduce one Bird-more.^ He
]iiame<l hin niece to a gentleman of the hopeful name of
Biscklc. The enteriiri.*e succeeded beyond hit expecta-
Iton. M(^. Buckle wa^ jHlivcrcd of twini, ' A pair of
Bucktea ' ' ' hoy a or girls :' in quired a congratulating
^end. The answer may be suppoeed.*'
Off and on, I have been supposing this answer
for thr Itt^t fift^^en years, it being about that time
tihte I first met with the paragraph anent Dr.
E^fcTton in soiiie "variety column," The York
iinnid haA jnsl revived it again, and, akft! in the
bot too weil-remembcred words. I am, con*«e-
t^acntly, aupposing more vigorously than ever^ but
would gkdly relinquish my suppositions in favour
of a fact. Can any one tell me what Dr. Barton
really did reply to ** a congratulating friend *' /
St. SwiTSiN,
' Medai. of William I.— A friend has latei>*
I given me a medal which was dug up during the
construction of a railway at Chubb s Hill, near
I Sevenoaks. It appears to be of bronze^ an inch
' and a half in diameter, and Iniars on the obverse
' the figure of a funereal monument, on the base of j
' which is a bas-relief representing the submission
of the Saxons to their Nonnan victors. Beneuth
it ia the following inscription, referring to William
the Conoucror, *' Nat . 1023 . C-or . lutKJ , Mart .
1087." The revense beara the bust of the Con-
queror^ helmed, and clad in ana our of a clmt^ic^il
t^T^c ; around it h the legend, ** Gulielmtiu 1 .
Oonciuftiitor , D . G . Aug . Rex . C . L" 1 *^^sfcW^
be glad to learn ibe ^nslorj ^sl ^^x^s \w&^Ti2L% ^Vw^
68
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t5^8;If,Jri.T55,^t.
it wjis atruck| &c. The workoianahip is apparently
not later than the last century^ J. Woodward.
Monlrose.
JoAiRfA SorTHCOTE. — Is there any meeting
hmise or place of assembly in England where the
followers of ond l)elievers in Joanna 8«uthcotc
lather together for puqx^ses of religious devotion ?
Ignoranoe.
[In Londoni tho followers of Joanoft Soothcoie u-
aeoMe at 97, Trafalpir Street, Walworth. For a full
doioription of a iDcetin^, see U^iortkodox London (TItLs*
Itf Bruther«), page 267. J
SiKiLB Wanted. — Sara Coleridge says in one
of her letters (Memoir, yoL h p. 169) —
*' I wish Tery much thnt some day or othfir you mtLj
have timo to learn Greek, because ilmt luDguihge is an
idin. Krtn a little of it is like manure to the soil of the
mind, mid mnkea it bear ttowcra/'
I have elsewhere seen it stated tluit all reading,
whether we rememher what we read or not, is like
manure to the mind. Can any of your readers
help me to the jMissage T
John Chttrohill Sikes,
Lichfield Housej Anerley*
" OtiK MAN-9 MEAT IS AJfOTHEH MAN's POISON."
— In illustration of this old sayini,^, Thomas Muflett
sayfl^ in Hetdth^x Iinprovanent ; or ^ Rules Com-
prinmg and Duect'ering tht. Nature^ Mdhody and
Manner of Preparing all torts of Fmd, —
"What Bouldier kuoweth not that a roasted Pigg will
affright Captain Swan more then Ihe eight of twenty
SpaniftrdB ? What Lawyer hath not heard of Mr, Tao-
fiel'e conceit, who ia feared an rawch with a dead Duck^
aa Philip of Spain woa with a liTing Drake ? *'
Who are the persons alluded to ? L. D*
Oliver Cromwell. — I have juBt come upon the
ioD owing i^asaage in FrophcsitM and the PrGjihdic
Spirit in tfu OmMiau JSra, by John J. Ign. von
Dollinger, translxited by Alfred Plunimer. 1 am
.inxiiouK to know oa whiit authority the statement
is bftaed :—
"Gff9i&well oftUBcd events which he intended to brinjj
aUmt to be inserted in the almanack before handj and
the astrologer, in consequence^ acquired a high reputa*
a«»n,"— P. 8,
K. P. D. E.
*'Dkisology."— i>«ri7io%y; or, tJie Union of
MeagtfH and Elegance. Ls there such a work, or iV
it the invention of the Edgewortlis, in Essaij on
Ifith Bulh, p. 221 i C\ A. Ward.
Mayfair.
Author Wastkd.— Will Olphar Hamst oblige
me with the name and any partieuhira of the author
of the following work : —
"A new and full Critical, Biographical, and Geo-
mphical History of Scotland, containing the history of
iho ■ufiCQSflion of theii- Kiugs from llobert Bruoe to Ihe
proseat time, with an imporfeiiil account of their ooa-
fitiintion, genius^ manners and customs: with a Qeo^
graphical description cf the seTeml Counties, their cora-
moaitica, rarities, antiquities, and commerce; together
witli au Appendix of a short hut Just history of their
most remarkable writers and learned men, and a Map of
each Coanty In Scotland. Fro Eege ot Patria. By an
impartial hand. I^ondon : printed for the Author* and
sold by the bookscUersof London and Westnunster, 1719*
All the prints, engmvingaj kc, are by Boitard.''
Charles Masovs
3, Gloucester Crescent Hyde Park, W,
From Sir Robert Wilson's Note-Book.^^
Kt'mhle always pronounced the word ** aches *^
" ar/c^t'-s*' likethe letter h. He was much censured
for this, but Shakspeare's puna prove him to
have been correct. Much Ado aho^it Nothing,
Act iii. fic. 4: —
'* Btatrict. Bv my troth T am exceed ingly ill — Hei^h-bo !
Marffartt. {"or a Hawk, a Horoe, or a Husband t
Bmtrirt. 'Tis the leittr that begins them alL**
Antony and Clwpatra^ Act iv. bc. 7: —
** Anton}/. Thou bloedest apace.
^ScariM. I baTe had a wound here that was like a % but
now it is like an U,"
Is there any con'oboration of this pnumndatioii
in other authors of the time or before it ?
Herbert Rajowlph.
Bidmonth.
The Ealiols, — I make bold to ask any of your
correspondents who may be willing to undertabe
tlie tiusk, and who may travel towards Normandy
and Brittany, to learn for me—
L Whether the tomb of John Baliol, formerly
King of Scotland, is still in existence, and in what
condition of repair.
2. To send me a description architecturallj,
heraldically, and MUth local tnidition.
A pholo^aph or careful pencil study of the
tomb woidd be greatly prized by me, and would
eventually form the subjeet of an engraving.
I am, lastly, anxious to know the condition of
the tomb as to repair, and its iitness, or otherwise^
for restoration.
Cotman, in his Uluatrated description of the
Churches of Normandy, states tliat in 1827 the
tomb wa» then in existenee. 1 do not think ho
relates exactly in what church situate ; but if my
memory serves me, I think he states thnt John
Baliol was buried in the neighbourhood of Mofts
or of Castle Oaillard. He wu- "^ ^' Vccauip;
and not improbably in* the nei; i of that
toT^Ti some ridings of the last r- , ^ of this
most unfortunate monarch may It mI. iK'd.
I address myr^elf specially to blLuIuu^ u( BoUiol
College, of wliich the iather or grandfather vf John,
the King, was founder. J* R. Scott,
Knells, Beedtng, Sussex.
The Ftxdern Monument is Childrkt
CHtTRcH. — \yhere can I Had a pubiiabed drawing j
or description ot this monument ? P.
Cromwell Crescent.
I
I
4
i^MMMH
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KOTES AND QUERIES.
69
SxBLRTr» OR 81BLEI-.— What is the crest of (he
aboTG faioihr ? Of Saxou origin, it is now ?ett]ed
in Deronslure* A Constant Beadbr.
Tde WiL.t.ow PATTKnA'. — Will any render of
**N. ft Q.' kindly infonu nie in what publication
I eaa find the story of the Willow- Pat t4?rn Plate i
Edward C Daviibb.
Jonior GArrick Cluh*
PlTBKBT '' is used in Suffolk to si^ify a pod of
I can find no mention of it in Sloor s Suffalk
^otd>i^ or in Forby*s Vocdlmlnrfj of Esd Anglia.
Is it merely another form of " peascod ** i
C. Davis.
15, C^unpdtin Grofe^ Eendngton.
Bqjxq, —
" I Mnt my love a loiter^
But, aX»a I sho cann* read,
And I lQ*e her a' the better/*
in Sifhiag Loicta^ by Mrs. CiiKkell, as
worda of the lover of Jess Mac Fitrlane.'*
er© may this song be foiind^ and who was the
bor of it ? E. T.
**A Walk ix SnETLAim/' — There wjis printed
nt KJfpil>!ir 'Ik in 1831, a small book, entitled—
Slietlnnd. Bj Two Eccentrics. B? the
Au Jew Exile in the Hightuida and Islaad^
«fh
'i as pttbl iahed in Lond on, by Eflingham
Wikon, in 1828. Tlie writer appears to have been
A in«rv facetious person. Can anybody name him I
A. G.
B riOUT AT THE INCHES OP PERTO.
(5**» S. L 364, 469.)
I am glad to find from Mr. A. M. SHAW^l
Uitcr that we are almo^^t agreed as to the names of
tbo [wuties who fo. 1-1.1 faf the North Inch. Mn.
8tCAW offen thHom 1^ on ray communica-
1100, bnt as they <i t materially the pointa
which 1 wished to insist. I shall merely say, in
to thetn, thnt the older writera seem to have
the terms parentela, dan, kin, and family
Mr. Shaw is right in supposing that, by
IIt« oldest anthors. I met\nt Wyntoun, the
of Moray, Bower, Major, and Boece.
after making allowance for the rois-
' in saying that the com-
nd Clan Qahelc. One of
1 iine^ of the leaders.
.;ti Sha Beg or Sha,
ii A A, and Christr John-
,0 Clan tt>uhele. V^yntouu
111 it* viVi'T^Q the leaders*
; and we mast
od down by the
» " of verse, nnd that no eubsequent author
f i hifi Hoeming assignment of leaders.
zL, i\s Others besides Mk, Shaw may have
heard now, for the first time, that the fight was a
consequence of the battle of Oasclune, I shall give
my reasons for this opinion at some length, as they
hare never before been fully stfited.
It may be premLied, that the fight in question
was a diidlo of a verj' peculiar nature. Govern -
luent was not in the habit of asking contending
tribes to settle their differences in such a vi^y, nor
used tribes to offer to do so. Indeed, the Scotch
Goveniment was indiffexent enough to the inter-
necine feuds of Highlaoden?, in which they inter-
fered little, espcciEiily before the time of James I.
It is, tlierefore, probable thnt, in the fight on the
Inches, they had a special object in view, and this
object is, I think, sufficiently indicated to iib b j
the efirly authorities.
Two of the four names that appear in the lists
at Perth, Clan Quhele or CheweU, and Sha or
Sheagh, occur in the roll of men outlawed for
the Raid of Angus,
WjTitoun, after giving an account of the fight at
Perth, immediately reverts to the disaster at
Gaschme ; and, while showing supreme indifference
to the fortune of the ckns, regrets that the loss at
the former combat by no means came up to that
which had been siiatained at the latter. This
reference would really be quite objectleds, if the
two fights did not stand In some relation to each
other.
Bower, Major, and Boece, all mention the fight
of Katerans at Perth just after the fatal skirmish
with Kateraas at Gasclune. As the one followed
tolerably close upon the other, this is ooly natural,
and would not necessarily signify very much, were
it not for the specitic statement, which has been
made by the continuator of Fordun, of the year
1461, in the Bodleian (and whose work haa not
been printed, unless veiy recently). He says that,
by the management of the Earl of Crawford and
other nobles, the tribes, who were rava^jinj their
own country, w^re induced to send tl cis,
along with their chief and more influr:i nU,
to go and alay each other at Perth ; lor, owiak to
their plundering, the whole county of Angus nad
not been able to enjoy any peace, and not long
ago those very wild Scots ipn had slain in the
field the Sheriif of Angus and many of the nobility,
Buchanan also, in 1582, ha\'ing all the accounts of
prerioua authors before him, gives us expressly to
undenit^ind that the combatants at Perth, whose
names he does not mention, were two families
of robbers concerned in the Raid of Angus, and
he conccivira that '■'* '"--^ '" ...♦.a.. r>if>ce of policy
on the part of th* 1 i of Mora^j-^
as they could not ;u. , l. ^ ,, ihem in their
own count r}' without the risk of a heavy los« of
men, to persuade them to alaiiLrhier each otber ia
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a public combat ; and they fouDd this to be no very
difficult matter, owing to an (old) violent (end !
having broken out between them. Old is Wyn-
toun's word. There ia, therefore, no novelty in
the conclusion, which has been forced on me, thiit
the tight at Perth grew out of the Raid of Angus
and out of the desire of Government to Dunieli
those who had been concerned in it. Whether
Government in this merely showed its weakness,
or whether it hod any object in view, such as
affording a speckwk to the Court and its foreign
visitors, is immat^riid to us.
3. To what district did Sheach and his brothers
and all Ckn GhewLl, if all of one nice, belong \
It IK nexirly certain that they must have lived in
the Heights of Angu« and of Al^erdeen, The
name of Clan Chcwil, m the Act of rarUanient of
1391 (the only name of a chin mentioned in the
list, by the way), comes after Duncansons and
Macnaire, and other Perthshire names, and is
followed by those nf Mowat and Cowter on Lee-
aide. It is really of no great importance in a
general sense to know to which Uhm Sha the
Little or the mn of Feruuhar belonged ; but it
is of some moment to know that there were
in Brae Angus, or Braemar, at that period,
Shas, sons of Fe^iuhar, closely allied by mar-
riage to the LuncansoDB, the leaders of the
Raid of Angus, and fmrther that, in the same
district, a Ferquhar, Ferquhar Mackintoshy, as
early i\m 1382 hiid l)een plunderiHg lands on
Leeside at Birse, t^ which he laid claim.
Other facta, tending to fix their locality, are, that
the Earl of Crawford, himself holding iandts Ln
Angus, was selected to act againat them ; further,
that the Act of ParEament of 1391^ directing the
town of Aberdeen to proceed against the outlaws,
would have been a mere hm turn fulmctif if some
conHiderable portion of those who were outhiwcd
were not to be found on the etistern side of the
Grampians. I shall go one point further, and my
that if, as we have every reiison to suppose, the
tribes on the eastern side of the Grampians were
closely connected with their immediate neighbours
on the western side, and the latter were involved
in the feud that led secondarily to the fight of
the InchcK, it was natural to a^isociate with the
Earl of Crawford the Earl of Moray, a more
northern potentate, and neighbour of the more
weistern tribea. I hope that I have thus made out
pretty clearly the origin of the fight of the Inchej*,
and the geographical position of at least a portion
of the combatants.
It is perhaps for the present premature to go
into other questions ; for instance^ which party
was victorious in the hard -fought contest at Perth,
about which point » however, there never haa been
reidly any doubt, as all writers who hjive men-
tioned them at oil arc agreed that Clan Quhele
ne/v victoTS^ or at whrit period the mimes of Clan
Sha or Clan Chat tan appear in history (Glen-
quhattans not having been introduced into the j
combat at the Inches till 140 years after the fight), I
or whether the old theory that tlio Camerong
fought at the Inches can be maintained,
I shall be thankful for any light that Mn, ,
Sha%v may be able to throw on those subjects in I
his forthcoming work, especially such jxj? he tells I
us he has derived from charters and deeds, which 1
are certainly more authoritative than family tradi- I
tiona, which, in the case of Celtic races, are almost \
necessarily tinctured with what is called Highland
pride. But I would venture to say that iiny
version of the fight that C4\n be accepted must not,
at least in my opinion, overlook the ascertained j
names and geographical position of certainly ono I
portion of the comoatant^n, or the influences whiclij
Je<l them to engage in the combat.
Sows MAcrflERSoN, M,D.
Curaon Street, W.
"The Althorpe Pictuhe GAixEar-^: Maet
J. JouRDAJT (5*** S. i. 348, 435, 516,)— I haTO
much pleasure in giving Olphar Hamst the in-
fonnation he seeks, and a little more which doubt*
\^m will be acceptable to him»
Lient.-CoL Henrj^ Georf^e Jourdan, of the lOtJj
Madras Native Infantrj'' Kegiment, was a son of
John Jourdan (a weaver) and Susanna his wife^ of
Spitid Sc[uai'c, in the Liberty of Nortctn Folgate.
He was Imptized at Christ (jhurch, itiddlesex, on .
the 23d June, 17S4, when twenty-three dnys old.j^
He was a cadet of 1804 ; lieutenant, l7th July^
1805; captain, 14th May, 1821 ; major, 24th May^
1828 ; nnd lieu tenant- colonel, tJth July, 1.^33. He
retired from the service on the Itjth February, 1838 J
and embarked on that day for England on th^
** Mary Ann," he being apparently the only
senger on board of the name of Jourdan.
His first furlough to Eiiro^K* was on privjiti
affairs, and he left Madras in the ** Windsor*' on
the 13th August, l&Ui; While at home h\k ^on
Henry Fmncis Halcombe, Wiis boni, 3rd Miin
1822, and baptized on 31at May, 1822,
Horsham, Sussex. The baptismal entry dcsciib
this child as *' son of Col'. Jourdan of the \
Army on Furlough, of 32, Hunter Street, and ofl
Mary Johnson Jourdan/' As Col Jourdan's ma
riage is not rec4>rdcd as having taken place
India, the probability is that he married soon afU
his arrival in England in 1820. Another son
Alexander Harcourt, was bom 0th April, IS
and baptized at Hor&ham, Sussex, on 31st May]
1823, and is described in the baptismal entry i
"son of Col^ Jourdan of the Madras Ani»y on
furlough, and Mary Johnson Jourdan.'*
He returned to' Miulras with his wife id th
" William Fairlic," arriving there on tlie 2nd JillyJ
1824.
He died on the 10th November, 1860, ftl
iS^!i.ILJ0LT2S,7t.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
71
I
Westboume Park, aged s^aventy-seven {see Allen's
Indian Mail, 13th November, I860, page B48) ;
and by probate of bis will of 6th December, 18(>0,
J^ne Eliza JourdiiDj spinster, and Johii Hobert
JouTtbiD were his executors. His widow, Mary
J. Jourdan, died 22tid December, 1865, at 19,
Weatbaurne Park (see Allea'a Ijidia^i Mail^ fJ7tb
December, 1805, p{\ge 086).
Hta son, He my Francis Ha-lcombe, was educated
At Midbur?t, and wil^ afterwards a ctidet in the
Madra* unny» Sailed in the " Mary Ann '■ on the
*i August, 1839, for Madras, Died 3uth August,
E, at Secanderabad (see Time^t 12th November,
•2).
The other »on, Alexander Harcourt, was educated
Bexley and at Midhurst. He too wiis ;ifter-
" I ft cadet in the Madras army. Sailed in the
li«wd Kyd" on the l&th March, 1841, for
Madras. Bied 24th April, 1845, at MiVilrHS (see
Timai, *Jih. June, 1845), Charles Mason,
Gloocciter Creioent^ Hyde Pftrk.
Field-Lore r Carji, Ing, &c, (4*^ S. xi. xii,
pauirft; 5'*^ S. i. 35, 131, 311, 376, 409.)— Will
your several correspondent?, who have given en-
couragement and contributions to the stock of
field -lore, accept my thanks ? — too long delayed
while trying, under invalid dmwbacks, to illus-
tnU€ our old words, which I see youn;^er persons
eaonot know &o well, and strangers oft^en mist^ike,
or from books alone misinterpret,
Mft. CoBDEAUx's list of Lincolnshire field-
njkmes, with hia interesting description, has been
jklready replied to by Mr, Peacock and others, I
Ibink ; but I may observe that they seem sng-
gottive of an influence kindred to that which g^vve
<nir own name^, yet modiiied aa the circumstances
of the district would lead usj to expect. Wonis
have varyin^^ shades of meaning in diiierent phices ;
and however well we may know our omti^ for a
diatAnt county one can only suggest, with safety.
in^tiLncc, ^^ groves " in such a situation as that
ibcd would idmost give an idea of these fields
r ' ' .twered in making the embankments.
, is to dig ; grotcn, that which is dug.
ur felU, are culled by rustic people
; pron^ gruives, and pitmen gniivers. The
woog fuggeatod to me Dan. vang, a field ;
in BoiwoHh uoitg is A.S. ; we have not
rKiines, Bridge Carr, Reedforth, and
11 the tale of marsh, the tirst in Ian-
:t of many northern counties. Hag
utting here ; pmt Hag in synonymous
. *' Gttun on like a man haggin' rice,"
in 1 have heard frcim old people, to
progre^ made in a short time, as of
v^n bnishwood (Dan, nw), compared
hewer of timber. I have heard it
- sense of one who causes great
'-•, W6 have also the verb to
u>
Aain, to spare, to protect, hedge ; " It g«tB nae
baining,**
To K nf for notice of carr* in Norfolk, and
to A- J. M. for ings in Yorkshire, I am indebted,
especially to the latter for the quotation showing
that a word so beautiful in its associations is not
neglected in ^* contemporary verse. ^' This, I pre-
sume, is of a lociU character, and I should be glad
to know the title of the book in which it appciira.
Mr. Dobson mentions ings in Durham, and
H. T. C, a list of field names in Lancashire, oon-
taining only the oft-recurring carr, which I recog-
nize. But what is F^?^/t, with which it seems <*ynony-
mous? (We have name» Flosb, Flasa, &c,, which
I have suspected to be reclaimed bog,) " Carr-
dole," there, might be a divided marsh, perhaps,
like moss-da i<Jt, in Cumberland ; and dti//-dike, of
which the responsibdity is shared, a hedge or
stone wall. And what is the derivation of Jiik,
** fittie land," mentioned by Mr. Cordeaux,
which is beginning to be written Fiti ? M.
CumberloJi^,
Will M, pardon ray correcting his statemeirt
that the word ing is "wanting along the West
t'cwiat of Cumberland.*- There is a Ponsonby Ing
Fell near Calder Abbey, and a few miles south of
Whitehaven we have a gentleman's seat called Ing
W^ell. I would also suggest that the provincial
name for meadow sweet (Queen o* t' Meddow in
West Cumberland) may come from the Fr, " Reine-
de«-pres." A. MiDDLEToy, M.A,
School House, Kmg»bridg<!.
In an old map of property in the parish of
Cheriton, co. Kent, dated 1713, the following
names of fields occur which I fail to trace in con-
nexion with any recorded owners or occupiers : —
"Bonyers," ^'Daniers Church," '' Great Eastbinn,"
" Little Eastbinn.** \Mience are they derived J
Hardrjc Morfhtn.
I do not think that there is much chance of the
name Ing^ as applied to a meadow on the bank of
a river, being superceded or forgotten in Yorkshire.
When curate of Bolton Percy, in that county-, I
used always to hear it applied to the low dying
grounds on the banks of the Ouse and the Wharfe
in that parish. Perhajw^ by way of illustration,
I may be allowed to quote a paissage or two from
The Lifc^of Lord Fairfax, by Clements H. Mark-
ham, Esq. :■ —
•' From Tftdcaster to itc jaaoiion with the Ouwj at
Nunappleton. the Wh&rfe i^ a hro&d tidal nrer, wtth
sides covered with ootj mud called varp, and is subject
trj Hitodi, The \ovr niejulotrs along itt baiik», whicli lire
often under water in the winter, are called ingi/* — P,f»7.
And again, speaking of Nunappleton Hall, onc€
the property of the Fairfaxes, now of Sir William
Milner, Bart., he observes : —
** A noble park, trith i|Jetidid oak tree*, and containiwi^
30O head of deer, ttrelcbtd vwkm \.q >Xv% t\qx>^\ ^V^
T2
NOTES AM) QUERIES-
[5^8. ai^ntSf,^
on ili« «out1i Bide were the miBH of the old Dunnery, the
fiower-g^rden, &nd the low meadows cnlled ins*$ c^'
tending io the banki of the Wlukrfe."— P. 366.
Burkej in hiB Hiitory of ifu Commoners, vol, i,
p, 32:2, fljiya thut the luges of Thorpe* C/onstuntine,
AQ imcieat family in the county of 8ttii!'ord, derive
eir name from a field or meadow.
John Pr?kford, M.A.
' Newboumc Rectory, Woodbridge»
AuTooRAPn OF BrRKS (5<*' B. L 283 ; ii. IL)—
The point involved is, whether the address in
MS. *^ To Termughty " on his seventy-first birth-
day^ which la in the hands of Mr. Johnston,
iji ftn aiitogmph of the poet Burns, It seems
to be iissnmed that it h ; but any hypotheaia,
in niy Wow, more groundless is Imrdly con-
<5eiviible. The handwriting is not, in any of its
features, like any of BtimB^s ob»er\'ed. Tlie
MS, is admittedly not the original ; it is clearly
not the ])oet'B dnift, but a capij^ by whomsoever
inude. The letters of the >vTiting throughout are
very small ; bo small, indeed, that there may be
rea^^onable doubt whether, if Burns had attempted
to write in such small characters, he could have
accouinliBlied his intent. The handwriting ia
like thsit of a female, or it may be like that
of those preachers who were in the practice of
compre&sing into ismall iipjice their notes in-
tended ft>r use in the pulpit, &c. The MS,
may thereforw have been penned by Miss IM niter
from the original draft, or a copy, or, as it might
be^ from the poet^s dictation, or that of some of
his family at his house in Dumfries, where Mhs
Muiter was accustomed, it h said^ to visit. Or
nerhaps it mny be the handwTiting of the Rev.
Mr. Little, Migj* Maitor^g relative, a copy from the
copy (possibly by Bums) said to htive been given
him by Miss Muiter. There is a great abuse of
capital letters (i. 2S3), of which there is no example
in any of Bums's other MSS- Thii^ abuse is no
flagrant, indeed, as to establish not only a w^ant
of scholarship, but practice in writmg. There is
al»o an entire want of tK>inti*, which Burns, who
was, indeed, a master in punctuation, never dis-
pensed with. Severjd words are also mis-spelt;
«8 **acarBe," "meets,'' ** DeeL," "Gomorroh/ &c
The fourth line of verse two has been first written
in cnntinuation of the third line, and afterwards
blotted with ink. Could Bums have done this I
There are none of the back-hand strokes forming
letters to be found in this MS,, which occur in
most, if not all, of Burns a MSB. ; as, for example,
the last limb of the letters p, h, m, n, &c. On the
contrary, every letter of this MS. haa the usual
regular slope from right to left. The copyist,
besides, has mistaken the iiuthor> words, and tlie
meaning intended by him to be conveyed, " Un-
scoured '* appears in the second line of verse one,
while *'tmsoured" is the word adopted in all
accnanible editions of the poet's works. Either
seems unhappily used to transmit the miihor'i
meaning ; luid possibly his word was
*. fi, not scored, scratched, harrowed, or lace
Health scoured would be health cle4kred, wa
cleansed » or purged, to its benefit or iniprovea
while health moured is next to meaningless,
import of the fifth line of verse one is ambiguon«J|
Burns 'meant to say that, as n uovv.. 1u w .-
spired, and hence saw that T
constitution, or frame) was
worn," inasmnch as it was **Btutf U prietV ♦*<
stufiT which was proof, or probably over ifTOof^-
more than proof ("o'er prief"), — a fact that
established by the more than patriarchal Ji^
which TerraugUty had reached. Then, the
line of the second verse is, " This day thou 9ncis(i|
threescore eleven." But Terraughty did not
that age as if it was conimg towards or confrontin
him. To meet signifies to come together fro
different phctii. He had rather come up to,
with, metedt measured, or reached that age. Three- '
score and eleven years was then the measure of
his days.
Burns never committed all, perhaps not
one, of these unscholarly blunders ; and therefoi
they must be placed upon the shoulders of i'
much less learned and less practised copyist.
K. M. J.
The Empebor Alexander II. (5'*^ S. L 46^
ii, 36, 55.) — The spelling C-^ar is not a new inv«
tion of the Engli.^h press. It has been in use T
in English and French for at least fifty years,
never heard that the Russians considered *
insult, and to my ears, and those of othefl
Eic«|uainted ivith the langiinge, the t; givef"
sound of the Russtnn letter Wtter than the s.
K^licve the word is derived from an old Ta
title, Chazar^ or Khnr.ar. The title of the heil!
apparent is of more modem date. T )i(A\i
probably me^int to indicate that tb*
peror is the successor of those of t
but, though wTitten Cesarevith, it ia usnaliy '
nounced in Russia Czart^vitch.
The mute t at the end of all Bn
ending with a vowel has no more
one at the end of the French wordi* w^t; *itii;*4
Probably Mr. Dilke was thinking of the wow
Czarieh, as it occurs in the first line of the Nation
Hymn, and the title of the Russian opera ( ~
za C ' \ - jmich spoken of at the time (
recc I - ; but in both these cases it 1
objecuv<j ioirii of the word whi ' " " ^ "^
is the formula, "Emperor >
** a gross error," It hajs, of t.\Mi, e, ....,..,i»;.
ever to do with Rns^sia in Europe and Kn
imited under one ruler as they now arc i bive
».XLJdi.t29i'?4]
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I
*thb iiionicnt^ before Tne » mooUmation rekting
a treaty wj , in Kttfisioti tmd French,
which Hia . lajesty's tities are, *' Em-
ir et Autucratcui dc toiites l$« HituieSy de
^ irie, KiGvie, Wlfidamir et Novoeorod, Czar
%^ KasaD^ C ' * ei. Czar de Sib^rie/'
besides about iikedoma, ditkedoms^
piincipalities, .-mi jiMu-^innsn
AU-Rassiao would imply that the Emperor had
&o foTcign hUtod m hU veins, which ib far from
bdag the case ; besides the word woald theo be,
in Bmebn^ V6i or VsJ^rooBsko], whereas it ia
Veinoossiaskitt, a genitive pltual form. There ia
nothing to correspond to ifm^ only because there
ure DO articles in Russian ; bat m Engli^ thej
are absolutely necessary to the sense.
For ins»tance, take the following Husfil^in sentence :
Y» (Ij vilida (ordered) chelavok (man-servant)
pteeteet (to come). Would Mr. Dilke translate
It, ** I otiiered man-servant to come/' or *• I ordered
I4« fnan-seiTaDt to come"? B. Y. H.
^m With rc^iard to Mr. Morfill^s note on the
^Mmtniion of the word Tsar, I think that its
^f imiireiiiJ use, not only at the present day, but
■ a0 &r bttck afi we can truce, among the Russian
' |»eMaBtiy, who are greatly given to clinging to old
dtlfiMy and among whom new ideas sain ground
bat *lowlv. is almost conclusive proof against the
the* uoman derivation. 1 believe it to be
A cu ' moe of double derivation, of a dcri va-
tioti littcd on to a word already in uae, and arising
dllielly from the accidental aimilatity of the Polish
fipetling, r\iir, with the word Ciesar, Tliough
Imfiefrntor has been the official title since Peter
llie Great, I have never heard it on the lips of a
BufeBJAii peosantf and a large part of them consider
•hort of an abomination, or the mark of
mt, whereas^ if we accept the derivation of
■ ' mr, we mnni allow that a perfectly
came national in a few years, and so
Lirpated the more ancient title-^i as to
<sian language without any native
^r their nder. The Emperor himself
nmy be eadled as a witness on my side, for it is not
pnAmble th.it he- would give up his claim to so
that of successor to the Cfesars,
le the comparatively unmeaning
' were- not assured that ^Tmr (which
by the way, himself seems un-
F to apc'U) is ft native word, repre-
tlowerthan his own. I may mention
f»*ian peu^iint? as know of the existence
of tte Emperor of Austrm^ call him Tsesar^ and
hkoovntry TH*arhaiti^ with the idea of drawing
«kuiy the distinction between him and their own
WliiJ* Ikir.
I do HOC o6DAider Kamm^iu as a great authority^
■ad k b A<m the fashion to set him down ; but at
UhI he VM A Russian^ which ia more than can be
Jmpf^^T^
said for Bchofikrik and Kopitar, quoted by Mr*
MOBFILL.
I grant without hesitation that I deserve the
rebuke for the use of do slipshod a term as Turaoiao.
I should never have used it to express any form of
speech ; but as an antithesis to Aryan, and to show
my doubt whether the word in question was Turk,
Finnish, Mongol, Assyrian, or Babylonian, I think
its use is pardonable. I may add that I have no
wish to derive it from Belahazaar or from the Car
of Sumir and Akkad, dear to Hungarian etymolo*
gists ; but I must express my wonder that, if the
word really came from Europe to Russia, the date
of its importation and naturah^sation should not
have been fixed long ago by one of those many
German mvant4i who are so anxious to prove that
Sbvonic barbarism can invent nothing, not even
a mune for its oppressor. I nuiy be wrong, but 1
have as yet not seen a single argument to prove
me BO, and I think the onus probandi lies certainly
on the other side. Ashton W, Dllkk,
There is no trace whatever of tinj native Slavonic
root for Tmr in Tauchnitz's Dicttanary^ where we
find two forms thuM Anglicized. 1. Tmry, whence
Tsarovit^chy ; 2. Tsr^ari/, whence Tsemreffti^ T»$^
sarovitjch, Tuetarcvna. Of these fluctuating ortho*
graphics, the latter is very near to the original
CCPSIU",
The strongest reason, offering argument In ab-
sence of proof, is that Byziintium, whUe ruled by
the dynasty of Greek Emperors, was called Czar*
gorod by Russians, i. <., the city of Csesar, when
as yet the chief ruler of Russians ninked only as
Grand Buke, It was because their line became,
by mrtrriage, representatives of the Greek Emperoi*,
that a Rub^iequcDt (J rand Duke assumed the title of
Cmr^ i.<f.T Emperor or Ciesar. A. H,
Sir Edward Maria Wikopield, 1670 (5**^ S. L
48B.)— CoRKUH jisks whether ** Maria" may not
(in Biu'ke's History of the Cammoners) be a mis-
print ; if not, how came Sir Edward by it, and
did any male member of the family before 1G08
bear the name ? A passage from Camden s Et-
nuiints answers all these questions : —
" But two Christian names are rare in SngUtndt and I
only remember tiow his Hajeitj. whoivas named ChurleM
Jama\ aa the Prince \\\& *onno Bnirtf Frederic; and
among pri?atc men. Thomag Mariv )Vin£fUld and dr
Tkomns FotUiumuM Uoblt/. AUhongU it if common in
Italy t'^ adjoTne the name of some Saint, in a kinds of
devotion to the Christian name, as Johannes Bavtista
Spinuia, Johannes Francitcvi B€ifrhomew, Martms
AniomiHS Fiawiniui ; and in ^paine to adde the name
of the Saint on who*c day the childc wr« borne-"—
Remoine^ coneerninff Bniamt, the fiffe ImprcMion,
1637, p. 49.
The following extract from the summing-up of
the Lord Chief Justice in the Tichborne t'ase is
not without interest : —
'* I don't know whcUm Kx. «c»\^^ 1^^^
m
m
NOTES AND QUERIES.
l§^BAlIvLi%ii
but it is a fact that when Arthur Orton ihvppcd on
h(mrd the Jessie 31 i Iter to go home, he did uot ahip in
the name of Arthur, but of Joseph 31. Ortou, What
does JoBCTih M* mean ? What does the M. stand for ] I
Bu^npest ' Mari«L* There is no doubt that it is the «ime
Arthur Orton who signed * Joseph >L' This i* jul-
milted. But when he came to London he was Arthur
drton Again. Tlie change of religion bad serred Lis
mrpoie, and the new u&nie waa con§equently dropped.
ST^othing IB more common abroad than for a male to be
(l>aptizeJ, in ndditiori to frouie opdinarr Christian name,
with the name * Marie ' or * Maria.' Ilierc is a fumiliar
instance in the cauie of Jean .Marie Farina, and one of
the gentlemen who received Arthur Orton in his hou»e
woa Jo«e Maria Toro. If, therefore, Arthur Ortou woa
re-bttptt*ed^ Jose Marm Toro wm very likely to bo
his godfather. When Arthur Orton signed the nnme
' Joseph M./ he would Imve been the laughing-stock of
the sailors on board if he ha^l written * Maria.* " — The
TimetlUport.p. 5, Feb. 17, 1874-
Sir Alexander Cockbura added, " I don't think
[rioniai]"! Catholic Enfrlishmoo tsike * Maria' in
JadditioQ to their onlinury CiiviKtian nsime?.'' I don*t
Tijiow whether they do uow, but the paaaage I
have quoted from Camdea shows that they did
once upon a time.
Sparks Henderson Williams.
1$, Kensington Crescent, W.
" The Three Bears" (5**» S. i* 506.) -England
obtained this favourite nursery taJe immediately
from the poet Sou they. It may be found in Tht
Jtodor, vol iv., 318. A» L. >LvviiEW.
Oxford.
" Drawback '* (5*^^ S. I r)()fi)-^Wlien this word
wa^ found at the bottom of the title-pai^e of a
Iwjok, it meant that the hook, being for the good
of the public, or of the nation, was entitled to
"drawback," or an allowance or return of the
duty chargeahlo on books of a ditterent chamcter*
William Blood,
Liverpool*
Mercurt Wateh (.5*** S. ii, 0.)^Mercury water
is doubtleB.s water with quicksilver in it. The
water does not destroy the corrosive properties of
the merairy, the powerit of which are shown at
the Cinnabar mine^, where wood is burnt up by it,
hrick soon destroyed, and the iron pans and con-
densers ref|uire constant renewal.
H, A. St, J. M.
*' Nu WHEX '■ (5^ S. it. 8.) — An expression in
constant use in this part of Sussex even aruoa^
fairly educated people. I have always taken it to
be a proviacialibui, Anif itiken aim is in constant
"Be. Edmund Tew, M.A.
Arundel*
March Ddst {5*>» S. i. 5t>5.)— **A peck of
:M5irch dust 18 worth an earr* itinsoni," and "A
bushel of Muivh dust is worth a kinjr's ransom/'
may be ** common saying-^ enough '• iii Dorset^liirc :
hat, BO Iwr as 1 am aware, they are uoveltiea in
both Devon and Cornwall. Perhaps the
niinfall in the two south- we3t-<vm counties
hunced the value of the du«t, a» the *^ sayintf
there takes the form of ** A pock of Mnn^h dust!
worth a kind's ransom," Wm. P^nazLLY* 1
Torquay.
"Pan** (5«» S. ii, a)— In a glossary of
Norfolk Tvords, at page 51 of the lilosj^irlci*
printed last year by the English Dialect Socletj
is this article : —
** Patif the flooring on which the cuUivAtod ioil hcf.
Immediately under the cultivated soil^ a hard cr
provinciRlly ' the pan,* occurs universally/'
Possibly this may explain the term Paiifiel<
but, in the explanation of local nameis it is har'
ever possible to be certain except after
search and the exerciBe of all one's critical i
Walter W,
1, Cintra Terrace, Gftmhridgc.
Christy Collections {ti^ S. ii. 27.)-^
**I>ono dederunt Julii Cre^conii chirentissij
True it is I can find no instance of the particip
ID this sense; but Smith giv^ under *^ch
the meaning *Ho be distinguished, iilustrious,
nowned," Charles F. S. Warren, MJUJ
*'Yanob Monday'' (5«» S. ii. 280—Prob«ih
Gange Monday, u e,, the Monday before Ascensfid
Da5% referring to the beating of the parish bounj
In that week. Citarles h\ S. Warhkn, M.A. I
Elleralie* Bexhill. HMttngs.
" The Bonny House op Airlie** (S*** S. ii. 2^
—It is well known that J[ont ri>5e was a leader i
the Covenanters, and su^yiected to liave on
changed sides from jealousy of Argyll. See
Clarendon, Book IV. Referring to Spalding
TrauhUs of Sccdland, we find him, the *'!
General ■' of the Covenanters, reviewing five Hu
rlred Argyll Highlanders on their joining liis i
at Aberdeen. And in the case of Airlie it app
from Spalding, edit. 1830, page 179, that ^lontr
himself had Baled in an attempt on Airly,
that the estates in consequence entrusted
attack to Arg}'ll : —
** The Earl of Airly went from home i
fearing the troubles of the land, and ibut li
pressed to eubecribe the Covenant whether 1.. .. .,,
not, whilk bj deeing the land he resolved to eschew oji^i
m he could * . . * The E^ttates or tables h'^nnn? ^f hu ^
parturOj directed the Earls of Montr>
to go to the place of Airly and to take
for that effect to carry cartowa with t
ciirta) . . . The asgftilaiita findii]|; the \nt^v uiiwil
by tuituro of fcrcnt strength, without great fkulfl
the place without niickle loss on either t.ide, t^
purted therefro' in Jime.
" Xt)w the Committee of Eetate?, finding n* coulf
mcnt in thif expedition, and hearing how i" {|
of the name ol Forbei and others in the •
daily injured and opprost by highland limniur^ rru*o,
out of Lochab«ri Clai^rcgor, out cf Brae of Aik4
NOTES AND QUERIES.
10
Brme of Mar» and dUvene other phicci, therefore tbej
gire atden to the Earl of Arg^fU to r»iae men out of hla
own couDlry, and firat to go to Airly and Furtour, two
of tl^e EaH of Airlj'd principal bouse i, atid to take in
and destroy the samen, and neict to ^o upon tUir limnmra
fttid punuih them ; like as conform lb hifl order he nii««i
mn araiy of about five thotasand men, and marches to-
vrmrdf Airly: hut the Lord Ogil-rie, hearinif of hi« coming
with fluch irreiutible force, reaoWei to ilcti and leave the
houie maoleis ; and so for their own safety they witely
fled ; but ArjcyU, most crueliy and inhumanly, enters the
houac of Alrly^ and b«ata the same to the ground, and
riglii Bua he dues to Furtour, eyne spoiled all within both
himt», and inch ms could not be curled they master-
foUy bmke down and destroyed."
W. G.
" HiGR AND Low/' &c. {^^ a I 46B.)— Words-
worth's Ecderiasticat SmiKcU. F. L.
Eliza B£TH Oakninq (5"» S* ii. 27.)— Mr.
Gbooilb wiU find a full report of all the proceed-
ingB in rektion to thi» wretched girl in HowtdFs
Sintf Triah, pp. 283-680 of roL xix. The dtite is
1753-^4. It iM noteworthy that, althou^'h the
Jt of the first triril (iu which CanninjT waa pro-
ttijc) woA admitted to have been much in-
p^ . 3 V- -' irjjiny m^fiiir representations printed
atn I I ' (p. 274), no proceedings were taken
for i-Ji^ of C'ourt." Middle Tkmplail
Bradford,
TiNTERN Abbey (5*** S* ii. 28.) — I gave Mr.
Block a phin (with .*everal others), which la pub-
It^htKl in the la^t edition of the Guide to i^oidh
II'«i/m (1874). There is no local Guide- Book.
l^LkCKENZiE R C. Walcott.
Blot " RiBBOK,^ OR Blue " Ridbaxd'^ (5*»» S.
I i 606.) — In the curliest editions of Johnson*«
\iittiumam/, this word is given thug : — ** Riband :
"" Ruban, fr. (.sometimes written Ribon),"
Ort^ by the following quotations : —
■lint in green she shall be loose enrob'd
fflth nbbandi pendent, fltring ^bout her head.'*
Shakspej&re.
** A ribband did the braided tresses bind.
The rest was loose/*
Dryden'g Knight's Tali.
" S99 1 in the lists they wait the lrompet*i sound ;
6ouie lore dcrice is wrought on cT'ry sword.
And erVy ribband beai9 some mystic word/'
OrauTiUe.
WiLLLAM Blood,
ItlT«rpooL
Tm " HricAiciEa'a Coithisntabt " (5*** S. i, ftOT.)
-I* The omiasion of the word« "and
[lets ritly a lapsus calami of the conunen-
|lAUif« 1 iiv jiebrew numeral in question ^S€r«7i/y.
\Mi» och^ reading or rendering i^* known.
A. L. Mat HEW,
CblortL
^ptCntT House (u*^ S. iL 4S.)— An engraving of
Bli|ier("« Hou^, Beech LaQe^ Barbican, is
in Thi Antiquitm of London^ hy John TbomaK
Snuth» 17!>i, There i» no letter-pre^s. but on the
plate are these words, ** see P^nnant'fi London.'*
Thifl reference may probably as^mt Mr. H, W.
Kexi-'rev in obtaining the mrticulars he i» in
search of. Charles Wylie.
"Solidarity" {5*^ S. I 347, 492.)— There i«
no mystery whftteyer about iolidarity^ and any of
the usual books of reference would doubtless hare
fumifthed Jahez with the refjuired intunnation.
Solidum, in Latin, means tht whole jmrn; and in
Ita,ly, when two persons sign a promissorj' note
together, the common formula k pagh€rci7w injtkmc
cd in solido^ each being thus answerablef in case of
need, for the entire sum. The two parties are
aoUdjirii^ or Aolidali, that i*, UnvH per tiilta la
$omnva> Hence soUdaAeta in Italian, while the
French forms are mlidaiTc, iolidaritiL
All the other uses of the word are metaphorical^
but easily refenible to the ground -iden, soluhr%t<'
des ptnpleji, den itUMU^ de^ t^le^ couromUes^ &c.
H. K.
Archbishop Trench is rij^bt in connecting this
word with the French Communbts— that is tbeir
motto, and one, indeed, which no one could be
ludiiuned of ; but, as D. M. thinks, they have not
coined it, ril though it is not of much older dtite
than the French Revolution, The French word
mlidarite appears for the tirst time in the famous
speech in which Cuxotte is said to have foretold
the fall of the monarchy and the decapitation of
Louis XVL Henri Gausseron.
Ayr Academy.
** Be QuiNCET : Gocoe'a Fate^* (4*^ S. x. 331.
418; 5"» S.i. 117; iL m)--The Dog of Echdhjn.
A dog would find it dLtHcult, if not imposs^ible, to
hold ita own .igainst the attacks of hungrj' mvens.
One of Landseer's drawings represents a fox unable
to keep the IB from a dead red deer,
Scott, Wordsworth, and Davy visited Helvellyn
together soon after the discovery of Gough's re*
niiiins. Scott was shrewd, and possessed too muoh
knowledge of the craft so often found with the
"clouted shoon'* to be imposed upon by g^uides'
tales. Wordsworth resided in the Lake country
at the tiuie, and must have known the facta of the
matter and the belief of the inhabitants. He was,
like Scott, too honounible a man to have mis-state*l
them, and Ids verses are evidence of his being well
acquainted with some of the details of the episode.
Bishop Watson, in the letter to Hay ley (ouoteil by
Mr. Oakley), terms Gough^s companion, *faitlt/fil
dog/' Professor Wilaon said the same,* From
• *• Christopher Xorth " could estn * v ;; at his
true worth. StG '" Chri«topher in hi lackeL"
** If erer^ in thij cold, chanceful* i IK I il, there
was a fricmlihip that might be C&IU4 «u^c.^i:ttt V^ "^vrt^
ihat which, haif a ceiit\^T| a^o ittk^ ^^-wax^^ avCoivAft^.
76
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^ S, 11. JtTLY 25. •
Wordsworth's lines it h evident that the creature
made aa iin usual cry to attract the sliepherd's
attention^ und then led him to the reJice of her
mivster. There is gr>od evidence of her remaining
upon the mountain for more than three months,
not two, as Bishop Wat&on a tinted.
Oarefal inquiries have been made in Patterdale
and elflewhere, and information received from u
tmafcworfchy sowcce — an elderly, intelligent, and
respectable peroon, of good position, who spoke
from old personal recollectionit, having resided in
the vale and been about tifteen years of age when
Gough lost his life.
Even if the (^lant and devoted animal which
remained true to the spot, ho useless and alone,
exposed to the rigour of winter, and ** biding the
pelting of the pitile.ss «tonn" for so many long
days and long nights, had been driven by the
excruciating pangs of famine to touch the remains
of one she loved so weU, it would btrdly impair her
fidelity. Nature might succumb and reason fail
under such a trial. Civilized man eat« his fellow-
man when forced by hunger. Let the loyal Fida
of Helvellya rank with the life-saver Barri of
St. Bernard, and her epit-aph be, " Fidelis ad
Umam." George R. Jksse,
"Pttt to buck'' (5t»» S. i. 228, 29.X)^Th« «^-
pr^Bsion, implying to be delayed or hindered^ haa
been remarked upon by two correspondenU who
have gone a long way back for a very imMttafiictory
solution. One ^^ thinks ** it in to be mode to tweaiy
the other has *' no doubf that it means to huddc
(as to put on armour). The origin of the expression
lies upon the surface, and is not far to seek : it is
simply a corruption of put n-bach rapidly uttered
with a provincial prononciatioiL I have frequently
heard a person exclaim, after being delayed by
some unexpected difficulty or hindrance, ** I never
was so put a-back in my llfe.'^ E, V.
GirsY Burials (5«» S. i. 129, 212, 058.)— Two
gipsy ladies are buried in one gnive in Beighton
churchymrd, Derbyshire. Tlie following is a copy
of the inseriptions upon the stone erected to their
memory : —
'' Happy tcmlj thy days are ended,
ML thy mmiraifi^ dikyn below ;
Go, by Migel iruarda attended^
To the ftight of Joaui, go.'*
''Sacred *^Al«o
to tho memory To the memory
of of
Matilda Doflwcll, Lucretia Smith,
tvho died Jan. 15, 1844^ Queen of the
Aged 40 years," Oypifies,
who died Not. 20. 18U,
Aged 72 yeara."
It would be inteTesting to ascertain the exact
b«twe«n Christopher North and John Fro. We never
had a quarrel in all our lives, and within these two
monthB we made a pilgiimagc to hie graTc. *
relationship between the«© two gip«y ladles. I eop-
pose them to have been mother and daughter*
Taoat^vs Ratcli ffe.
Wrt Adam meaxs North, South, East, axd
West (5^ S, L 305, 433,)— The extnvct from
Hyam Isa^ic/s Cercuumi^ of the Jtvcft^ given hj\
Mji. Gomme, to the etfect tlikt the name Adam lsI
composed of the initial letters of ^dam, Il!ividy|
and Jlfesaiah, seems to me to be open to the oh^\
jection that the word Aiidni moat have exited I
before its lirsfc letter could be taken for the for- 1
mation of itself, W. W.
CARFATUlAJf MouKTAtSfs (5*** S. i. 328, 375,} —
For the botany of tho Carpathian Mountains, J
H. J. B. is referred to Dr. Wahlenbergs F?<>rft j
Oarpatormri Principalium; and, for a genenill
description of the region traverBcd by them, 1«>I
Kennan's Jourti^ey acroag the Carj>nthian Aftwm-j
tai?w, Gaston de Berneval,
QtTorrs (5^^ S, i. 428.)— The book wanted »
Routledge's Handbook of Quoits and Bowh, by
Sidney DaryL 18mo. Load., I86a See ab(»
Strut t's Sports and Fa9tint*9f edited by Hone.
8vo. London, 1831 and 1855, p. 76 ; TfiA PhiMf^
ffround, by Rev. J. G, Wood. 12mo. Londouyj
1861, p. 167 ; and Wondtra of Bodily Strmffik]
and Skill, by Charlea RusaelL 12mo. N. Y.^j
1871, pp, 47-54. Gaston ob Bee^sval.
PhiliuldphiiL.
SniRLKY Family (5^ S. L 248, 2^ 477.)—
In Burke*s Peerage for the current year, as well
as in previous editions, Sir Hobert Shirley, first J
Earl Ferrers by his second wife, Selina Finch, left,
inter olio, three daughters — Selina, wife of Peteri
Bathurst ; Mary, wife of Charles Tryon, Eaq.s
Anne, married to Sir Richard Ftimese, Baronet
In Burke's Extirict Baronetage, p. 211^ artic
'' Furnese of Waldeishan^ co. Kent,'^ there appears]
no l^ii Richard Furneae at all, but a Sir Robert]
Fumeae, married (lat) Anne Balam, (2nd) Lad^
Arabella Watson, (3rd) Lady Selina Shirley,
wish to learn which is correct. Should the
Baronet's name be Richard or Robert^ and should
the lady he married be SciiTia or Anne f
NoVAVtLLA,
"Tms Night Crow": Bitterw (5*^ S. L Si
114, 293,457, 613.)— MR. Jessb quotes from t
poets (p. 293)— whose names he omits — ^ooi
ing the Bittern, and asks for other qnotalioilil
perceive that in each of tho three that h** orivfin tbi
word ** boom " is applied to the peculiar
burd ; and the same word is used in the i
lowing quotations from three poeta who wer9|
decidedly original, and not copyists from
other : —
" And the Biitom soand his dram
Boomioff from the ied^v eh allow,'*
Soott, Lady of ih€ Lakt, Cwito t, ZV
mm
NOTES AND QUERIES.
77
— This gives the ex]jlim(vtion of the local term,
the '* Mire Druni.'^
" Or ndl; listen to the luneleu cry
Of fiihiDg jguU or clftiifEiag iroIdeD-eje ;
Wh«( Uttie the sea-bu-dB ta tbe umreh would com«,
And th« bud bitkm, from his bull-niBh home,
G%Y% from tbe s^lt-ditch side, hta beHowitkg boom.'^
Cmbb«, Thi Borough, 22.
'^ Ko more with her will bear tbe Bittern boom
At eTeoiDg's dewj clo«e/'
£ben«zer Elliott.
Howitt uaei the word "boom" as jipplied to
** the soariiig cockchafer." CuTnuisRT Bede.
Mr,
90-
F:
fVltti
h V
Tl
birti
Je98z uaks for the derivation* In Eichard-
ruMTffSuh voce, Datch BuU>m- is given^
'f/f, J5<w taunts^ or J?aa(ii^ f(tur«iiuj«
X. -12, quoted to the eftect that it is called
ib^cxLUse it lows like a buIJ. TkU reference
^" ' ^ • y*H Forcellini givea PlinVj L 1 (\ 42.
p8et3 the derivation, because the
ciiiien ianrn4t^ And not Boatus Uturinus.
I imkc it to mean simply *m= bird, bin that heati,
hmdcm or humping kern. In Northumberland it
il failed the butUHmmpj m Lancashire the hitttr-
Sow a few jMUsa^es in which it occurs : —
^ Whmrt li»wki» sea owb, and long-tongued bittours bred.'^
Cba|»nan'fl Odj/t. v.
"Sotbatacarce
The bittern knows hii timo» with bill Ingulpht^
To ihake the lounding manh.'^
Thomeon,
" Atid M m ^iitcmr^ humbldA in tbe mire."
Wif tif Batiii* TaU, t, 0544, Chancer.
'* And m » btttottr bumpe within a reed*"
Dirden.
a A. w.
jfair.
I filioidd jmn^ine thut Bitterti wa.s the EnjrliHh
fbfiD of the scientific name of the bird, Botauruei,
!«., Bootaorus, given to it from \\» hollow boom-
iflg DOt^f which rei^embles the bellowing of an ox.
**"" rits provincial appellation of **Eull of the
Oharlrb Swai?»sox.
It Wood.
^CoL- IV r*>T-Fox{5*^S. i. 141, 2n» 371, 417,
4aew)— '' ' 'f the birth of '' a colly foal "" wsjj
tolil tec V a Yorkshireman, and I thought
Imt meant a oAi foal uotU further inquiry showed
bnc that the new-comer was of tli£ feminine gander.
Wh«ii 1 thereupon asked for the si^idoHtion of
^ ooUj," it wa«» explaiiied to me that it meant *'an
udhliti, ^ and my informant promised to
teok fcii In hiii dirtiun.ary. He remarked
lint f>eopic u: i!vi coUit for a foa), ju&t w& they used
I 6wMif Ibr » rabbit.
P€ff)bap» co/ meivns v " ' " ,< i^
irJ»&Qnroi» mihI his t ric
aiMitrntiTy. If <w>, coJ-Mnvr^ m** t^iuim or pocket
ladfcs ; A col- fox i^ a youjij^, a little fox ; a coUic
iB, aa Mh. Blk>kin&ofp says, a whelp ; and mj
colly foul is on equine baby. The snmamo Col-
cluugh has been of late in the papers ; this, ae-* i
eordinj* to my interpretation^ is liiUe glen, ravine^ ,
or whatever elae chugh may be said to signify.
The place ColcJough is in Stafford shire» " in which
county/' writes Lower, ** the family reiiided temp.
Edw. HL" fcsT. SWITRIK.
pRiKCKS OF THE Blood Royal (5**» S. t. 467,
ni6 ; ii. 37.)— MiDDLK Templar wiU find that th^
Duke of Cambridge takes precedenco by ** special
Act": vUe " N. & Q.,'» 4^ S. x. 453, in an ampla '
article by Mr. Wickham.
O. LAtJitsKce OomtE,
B, Catbbrixk of SiENSTA (5«» 8. i. 3ft7» 4133 ;
ii, 17.)— The following is a vety interesting work
on the life and times of S. Catherine : — Storia di
S. Cat<rina <fo SiennO' t del Fopato d$l 9UQ Tempo^
per Alfonso Capelcelatro, Napwi, 1856, 2 voli.
W. M. M,
Pastoriki (b^ S. i. 408 ; IL 13.)— Fleming did
71 of '* foretell the downfall of the Papacy in 184rt,*
His woni.i are, " But yet we are not to imagine
that this vial will totaUv destroy the papacy,
though it will exceed Lngly weaken it." K»«f^
reprint of Eise and FcSl of Borne Papain by
Robert Fleming, ed, 1848, p. 62,
C. CaATTocK, F.R.H.S.
Castle Brotnwich.
Comet Tistule Ai^ril 30, 1530 (5"» S. i. 369,
435.)— The statement of the Portuguese historian,
Don Jean Antonio dc Veia et Figueroa, as to a
solar eclipse, as well as a comet, having been
visible on the day on which Isabel died, 1st May,
153!>, is, therefore, most satisfiictorily substantiated ;
and I beg Mr. T. W. Webb wiil accept my best*
thanks for his great kindness in tbe matter, K
Rev. STKFHiLjr Clarkk (5** S. L 206, 265, 298,
438.) — I beg to thank your correapondente for the
information given respecting the above divine.
The typographical portion of my que^ haii not,
however, received any elucidation. My copy of
the work ia nearly identical with that of J. U. B«»
with the foUowir- - - -><^; - ♦>- title has **six-
teen '* discoursr a are enume-
rated, the sixteti. -. . . ,, .. 1- ~ Advantages of
Casting our Bread upon the Waters.'^ The title-
page ends thus : '^^ Second Edition, Malton^
Printed by Joshua Nick^on ^* fn. d.). The number
of pn;[:r-^ i.^ Lnvpn Lis ^^51, bnt sheet Dd is erroneously
] ition of sheet Cc, thus
-- < to the volume.
2^Uy 1 ery about the Malton
printer, an^. ho above volume?
t^ABl^ES A. FSDEAISL.
Bradfoid.
mtmm
NOTES AND QUERIES. p**8.n.JutT2$,7i.
PECttLiAR SpkIi^^HHK. i. 405, 4bZ.)-Ridde
far ready post tenser, mByron. In the Malmt^bury
Qfrrttpondtnre the following passage from a letter
i« quoted :— " The letters ... * were reddr in both
Houses of Pftrliatiient." Upon which the editor,
the present Lord Malmeabmy, remarkfl i —
" Jiedde t« tiled in the originjil of all letters of tbif
dute, and so the word was sptlt in the days of ShaJce«p«re
and duriDg movt part of the last century. Why not
spetl the paat tenae as it ia pronounced rtddt, and the
preNnt aa it U now written read t This would at leaet
define the two."
Is it not aa prolmble th-ut Byron was more
familiar with the fonii redd^^ m that he iwiopted
this from iiiero whim ? Is it not u positive Iobs,
too, that the distinction in writing the past and
the present of this verb ahoidd be misaed I Spen-
ser Has red for the post tense. Inquirer,
" Pektecost" as a Najie (4t*» S, i. 568 ; h^ S,
i. 402, 472.)— In the Phiknthropic Farm School,
Redhiil, is at thiB time a boy of the nume of Al-
bert Ponteco8t. He was bom at Danehill^ Sussex,
Dec. 15, im2y and baptized there Feb. 1863.
The Vicar of Dane hill writes :-;-
" The name • Pentecost' ia a famiUar one in thii plae«
and in tbese parts. Four miles from this village), ott a
place called 'Flaw Hatch/ livea at this time old Jack
Fenteoo«t (S3) ; and John Pentecost^ aged 76, was buried
here four years ago. They belou^ to the labouring
clafi. The sons of old Jack Peotecoet are resident in
the iitxt pariahesj Twryford, ilartfield, and Maresfield."
G. L. Cr.
Tit»ey Place, Surrey,
A Jew's Will (5«^ S. I 449, 4m ; ii. 38.)— The
Magpie Alley and Fenchurch Street Synagogne
is probably the Hambro BA-nagogue, Norihum&r-
land Alley. Mr. Jacob Solomon, of 27, Great
Prescott Street, E., Secretarj-^ thereof, can probitbly
give all information about it^ sind of the Isaac
family. Partly in forced xniitat ion of the mediaeval
Catholics, each male Jew ref>eats a doxology,
Kaddish, for the first eleven months after his
parent'ii death, and on the annivers:try of the same ;
also olfera public aims on Pui^sover, Pentecost,
Tabernacles, and Bay of Atonement (vide Jewish
Festival Prayers, "The Memoriul of Departeil
Soids ''). The Jntish ilironidf Offiee, 43, Fins-
bury Square, London, has publisJied this year an
interesting history of the London Jews ; and
probably the erudite author of the same will give
H. T. E. a genealogy of the L*aacs fumily j one,
Alexander Isaac, was grandfather of Sir" Julius
Vojjel, of New Zeahind. S. M, D.
SwAXE Fajiily (5**» S, i. 1B8, 253, 297, 476.)—
There is no doubt that Sir Solomon Swale had
a fourth son, Robert Swale, ]VLD,, Pivdua, aud a
licenthite of the London College of Physicians,
My aeorch for an heir to this baronetcy is now
suspended owing to other occupations, fhe points
I
on which I should be obliged if any of your cor-
respondents could give mc information are, the
parentage, marriage, and issue of a John SwaJc
(grandson of Rol>ert Swale, M.D.), who was born
in 17tX>, and lived at Windsor, holding some post
connected with the royal household.
John H. CnAPMAK, M.A.
Crosthwoite Park, Kingstown.
Floooiso in Schools (6**» S. I 2S4, 415.)—
A, E. is "greatly miatakem*^ Nothing of the
kind was ever used by his " ingenious Amencaii
cousins " ; and if he has " read of slaves being nent
to the flogging mills," in the whilom slave-holding
States, he has only missed discovering the " in-
vention^'io the story, G. L. H.
Greenville, Ala.
The Swift Familt (6^ S. L 485 ; ii. 33.)— I
hope Mr. Swifte will pardon me if I take the
liberty of inverting bis statement that, for the
hereditary royalisui of the Rev. Thomas Swift in
presenting to Clnirles I. the purchase- monej of hin
estate, " he was rewarded by the Roundheads with
misusage and spoliation," the fact being, with stiU
greater credit to his unwavering loyalty, that the
first barbarous plundering of his home by the Earl
of Stamford's soldiers, then occupying Hereford,
took place in 1642, and bis nuinificent donation
was offered to the King at Raglan Castle, after the
battle of Naseby in 1645. Heath says it was the
produce of a mortgage, and 300, not 3,tKK), broad
piecea ; and this seems more probable, us they
were carried quilted into His waistcoat. Nor, un-
less he crossed the Channel, which is not vciy
likely, could he have been rewarded by Charles IL
" with verbal thanks," as his decease took place I
June 2, 1658. How cruelly his defenceless famtly |
were treated by the Parliamentaty ^v^ill
appear in my late fathers (the Rev. td>)
Memoirs of th^ Civil War in tJu Coiumj t>j licr^
/onf, whicJh I am now preparing for the presft.
One of the cnftrops with which this noblt^-heartetl
man is said to luvve aiiised the ford nt Goodrich
to l>o secured against cavalry is now in my pos-
^. I ^n. T. W. Wfinn.
Simpson & Co. (5«» S. i. 49, 114, 197, 33a>— i
Adam's Son forgeta that W. T. RL has said not a '
word which implies that he is not well aware thjit
all old families bore arms before the Heraldn'
College was ; and lie conceals the fact that it is
just these old families whose arms are mo*t
certainly recorded there. Very few of the families
whose arms are on alttu? tombs and corl>eIs ha^t*
managed to escape the notice of the betnlds. He
writes tij. */ho did not know the nde in her.ddiy,
tlmt ii coat of arms is a property voMtod in the
IdtXMl iie*icendant^ of the ori^dnal owner. Hence,
whoever has a right to use my family arms ia mr i
blood relation. He would not object to a don
NOTES AND QUERIES.
79
H »|AtUS IS
I
I
iTeiigvF pbciiig the Adam*8 Sok aniis on his
dtist-cart ; aor should I, or a poor scavenger
cither, if the man was a blood relation ; neither,
I suppose, would any one who is above the mejin-
naea of difiowniiig a relative because his social
»|Atus is inferior* But if the saivenger wim no
relation, and was the honest man Burns speaks of^
scorn the falsehood of sneniking Into arm^
no right to, merely to puff himself oa being
bom than he wtia. He is rich enough to buy
a new coat at the College, but he knows it would
not be as *' genteel '' as the Adah's Son old one^
and would not help hira up in society as well, so
be paaaes off a fraud upon society nnd claims what
10 not his. P, P.
I once used to be of the same opinion as One
OF Ai>Ait*8 Dbscenda^^tb, hut hiive long since
bee" .i"*i^>^*^ived. Although anna similar to those
of are to be found at Sawley, Bolton,
„. .ail of a very early date, it does not
Dw tiuit he has any right to them. They
have been assumed by some progenitor
ignorant of the necessity of genealogical proof
positive of descent &om the original bearer. It is
ft cue of ipse dmt, until such proofa are submitted
to the responsible public authorities on such ques-
tions. Mere usa^ and the presumption of a
right, derived, say, from the postewbn of an
ancient estate, are not sufficient ; for there ui-e
many instsnoes, especially in Scotland, of strange ra
of the mme name carrying on the succession of
oatftm labdB without any blood relationship^ and,
oonseqnently, without any right to the pen^onal
aims of their predecessors. The assumption of
nna without the perfect geneidogical proof ia
decidedly illegal, as regards the Heralds' College,
and tliia illegality is not affected by the Armonal
TiKK Act, which refers to arms *^ regiiitered or not/-
tlie object being mei^ly to prevent evasions. But
tbe Act does not imply that the payment of the
tax condones any henddic offence. It is simply,
ill it» object, liscjiL
LiAtly, DO one has a right to bear arms without
tike approval of the heraldic authoritiea constituted
hf Act of Parliament. He may, however, have a
dormani right, but, until he proves it, it must be
oanddend an open question. S.
**0R!7lD* (5** S. i, 308, 435.)— It is obvious
llkfti both Collins and Lord Byron use the word
" Dnitd " as a synonym of Bard ; but can this be
figjlit I I cannot think thjvt the functions of bard
nsMl Htuld were the same. In the lustoTy of every
liilloa, tbe most important events, national or
ptfiOiiAl, w^ere first chronicled in verae, and were
imog 9X ncred festivals, or as soogs of victory ;
b«jt t&cAC, though uttered by the Druids in their
prUiUj cjiancter, seem not to have been the work
m llie piicit, but of the bard. The I>ruid pro-
tkJan^ ibe cotamand« of the God that he adored.
Ho might explore the heavens, and draw know*
ledge from the courses oT the starss ; he might
impart a mysterious significance to omens, and
predict events from symbolical .signs ; but he was
not the bard, — certainly not the bard of Celtic
Htemture. Omy bore in mind the distinctionj
and^ during the time that our language has been
carefully studied, there has not been a dictionary
published in which " Braid " is made synonymous
with bard.
There may be found in the lays of Viliemarqiie
some good information as to the ** Druid.*' The works
of Da vice, Higgins^Cj ate well known ; and, in
the To/tmn of D, W. Nash, F.S.A,, chap. I, it is
stated, on hi^'h authority, that in Druidism the bards
were a distinct class, from which the Druidfi» as
priests and judges, were chosen. S. H.
The" JAconus" (5"» S. i. 506 ; ii. 35.)^ Infor-
mation concerning this may be found in the Record
Office. Jonham ben Douiat» King of Acheen and
other parts of Sumatra, in a letter to Jauies in
1616, asked for ** ten mastiff dogF, & ten bitches,
with a great gjun wherein a man iiuiy sit upright,'^
It was also said of him, —
*' A cnek of hot drink were a fit present for hiin^ for
lie delights greatlj id drinking and to make men drunk:
the King of Jore which is now there, aliboagh he bo
his prisoner, do often drink drunk together."
Memoirs of thiB King Cole of the £a«t might
be interesting. George B. Jbsbe,
NOTES ON BOOKS, ko.
Tre Shaksfearb D&atb Uasu.,
Iir Serihner's M<mtAlif (m New York periodicaj* pub-
liihed also in London by Wame k Co.) there is^ In the
current number, an article^ with the abore title, by Prof.
John 8. Hart, tome account of which wiU interett Shmk-
fpe&riant. Brieflj, the chief poiata put forth are these.
A caet of the f&co and forehead of Shakipeare exiatt in
Oermtnj which was tinken by the sculptor of the biut
oTcr the poet't graTe aa hie guide in thmt well-known
productioD. 31 r. P&ge, of New York, ha< been lately
occupied on a likeaew of Shakapeare, whkh ie baaed
on photograpbfl of " the German Mask/' The UkenoN
thill produced doee not resemble any other porttwit of
the poet, but it ii **mucb more BUggeetiTC of what we
might conceire to have been ha earthly dwcUing-placc."
Prof, Hart, on & riait to Europe, went in teaivh of
thii mask, of which the world hat heard not a little
from other tourcet. It wae foond in the poaieitiqo of
Dr, Eroeet Becker, Prirate Secretary to the Frinceia
AUce of Hesee IHrmetadt. It wai ongmally diecorered
in Maycnce by hii brother LudwJg, in 1849, who ex-
hibited it to TanoQt person! in England in IS&Opand who
left it in the keeping of Prof. Owen for ten yearf. At the
end of this time, Ludwig Becker having died ia Aui-
tnUi&j the cast was eent to hii brother ErneiL
The abore are the introdactoty pointa. The aeit
poinU, condemed, like the abore, from Prof. Ilart'M
narratiTet are aa foUowa
At the Bale of the deceeeed Count von Kenelifcadt't
effecti at Mayence in 1649, one 8. Joiirdan bought au
oil pftinttng. It ropresetitM a man Ijing on « bod, witli
a wreuth round hiB bctd, and the date ** A.D. I'Ja? ^'
nbore his left aidu. This was irmlitioTi&Ily mid to be a
portrait of Sbakepcare, who died io 10U*. Ludwig
Beeker bought thii reputed portrait from Jotinlan in
1647. Subfl«queiitly he di^cotered the Death Mask in a
r«g shop in M&veace, and bought it aa the cast from
which the KeiaelttiMit reputed Shokipeare was probnbly
pftinted. Woodcut of portrait and cost are giren. The
portrait i« unlike any existing portrait of SLftk.«peare,
and, as far &■ our judgment goee, the mask is not in the
leant like the portrait. Prof Hart thinks otherwiee.
Within the Ciist is inscribed the date, ]616; and there
are ikomo human hairs of the colour of thoao of Shak-
flpeare.
The hTpothesis act forth a that thia cast, used by
Gerard Johnaon when executing the bust of ShiikBpeare,
now at Stmtfordt got somehow into Germany, and that
the Keiselsiadt portrait waa painted from it. Not only
ia there no reseniWn v- '» i^ unknown cast and
this umdeiitified K . but the Professor
diatinctly aays tbut • : "!, in one respect or
another, from every rccoguiicd likcDeaa of Shakspcare *" ;
and yet it is asserted that the maik waa copied ty Gemrd
JohoiOD, the gcalptor of the iStratford bust. Prof, Hart
finda various reasons to account for the difference« be-
tween the nmak and the bust, tbe conaidonition of which
may be left to readers generally, " Fanny Kemble on
aeemg if (the mask) " burat into tears." Prof. Hart
then fMiPinta out where he finda reeemblances between the
maak found in the rag-ahop at Mayence aud aculptur<!s
and paintinga eaid io be likeneaacs of Sliakspeare. He
aajt of the terracotta bust, now at the (Jarriok Club,
originally found in the ruins of the old Ltncoln'ii Inn
Field'a Theatre, or rather in cleariug away the premises
(on that site) of Meaars. 8pode k Co pel and, dealers in
ceimnic ware» that ■* of all recognized likene^eeA of Shak-
epeare, there b none that, in my opinion, cornea ao near
to the general character of the Death Maak/* Prof
Hart finda pointa of reBirmhlanre between the aamemaek
&nd the Droeehout engraving in the old folio i to moat
eyes no rcaemhtonco will be apparent.
The chief points of the Prufeaaor'a earnest article in
Sfribner'g Monthlf/ have now been stated. Comment ii not
IMeeaaary. Full credit will be given to Prof. Umri on the
score of cajidour, ilncerity, and (it may b« added) ingenuity.
'* K. k Q/' concludee by making note c^ the fact that the
world haa, or ia to have, a now portrait of Shakapeare,
founded on the reputed Keaaelatadt portrait, bearing
date 16ii7» and a Death Ma«k, of which nothing what-
ever IE known except that it ia said to have been found
in 1847 in a Mayence ra^-ahop. We tAj, with Lord
Brougham, *' Non liquet."
Ukdee the title of Tl^e Great Convenerft ^fcflsra.
Triibner k Co. have pubUr«hed a capital goaslping book
by Dr. Alathewa^ of the University of Chicnjro. It is a
collection of anecdotal articlca, of which tltoae illua-
trating American matters are the most novel and in-
tercBting. Here la one aample : — " Some yeara ngo. a
clergyman near Boaton aaked another, who waa noted for
his prolixity, to nreach for him. * I cannot,' was the
replji *for I am buav writing a aermon on the Golden
Calf/—' That 'a Jufft the thing/ waa the rejoinder; * come
und give ua a fore qnarter of it/"
Msoaitfl. LoiroMAHs k Co. have iiaued a noteworthy
little Tolume, by the Rev. Bourchler Wrey i^aviie, culled
Ap^ariUoM: a Narralxvtof FaeU. The value of thia
boox liea in the fact that the author ia above all sua-
picion^ and the conclugion to which moat of tta readera
will come is that there are more things in hearen and
earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy.
The same firm haa isfued a remarkably attraetive
book, by Miss R. H. Busk, namely, Th( VaUt^m o^i
Tirol : their Traditioni and Cattona. Thie volume la
nicely illustrated, and in every respect is well frat trp
Uood' ta^te and good sense mark evenr pogie .
moreover, there ie something to iiitereaieveryt
the scholar, now the sfiunterer, now those wL. ...<_.. ..
guide, and bide-at-homo travellers, who only need an
an^uHnjc ^"^l in*tntrttrf* If-^nk, The Tyroles© are ecthu*
s f native local beauty, and I
V ":'(, volume that in Tyrol j
ti,,,; „,_„ — :., -, ^ ,--..- iL^ ownviUley*
Thi Swiss !\frTiTTTrTA^ BnTATrrc 8oci£TT meet on
Wednesday, i ! ^Ivtcs, between Mar- |
ttgny and ^ ^nd), TouriMtt and I
atrangera uic junw^^. ....,«x...utx..icatioas are soUoitedJ
from visitors,
KcMis writes:—" Where can the following work b«|
conauUcd I — Jtutttutwnts Clericorum tn. Comituiu WU^I
tomer, ab ann. 1297, nd ann. 1810, 2 vols, folio, ld^|
Privately printed by Sir Thomas PhiIliJ^ps, Bart/*
The Rev. Mackenzie W.u.miT ban ^iveu blf MSI \
collections for a complete Welsh Mouaaticon, with plii
to the British Museum.
Nkw Histobt of Proteftaitttsm.— We nnilcrstiad
that Messrs. Cassell, Fetter k Galpin « tetm-
plati^vn to iaaue shortly a work dealing ■ vtlf
with the History of the Keformed ChurcL^^, ^ <m^ wots ^
will be entitled Thi Butoiy of Protatanlun^
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WA.NTED TO PCIICHAFE.
PftrtlculnrR of Priee, Ac, of cTfTv l-nok to b© atnt dtnMt
tltc petvoti bf vrhofli it it reiiuircd, w[jo*e Etame sad *ddiiaB I
(TiTcu for thst purpoie :— ^
L*Pt Maut Wo»Tt»T MojrtAftc'B Lrrrut. AnnaftaleS 1
Wanted hf A«r. J. /r«rf*,S9. IvUik WllliBD 8C£««t,B.a^
fotfrrf to CcrreitfitonirnTti*
AiKSTUBfi.—See, in Lord Chesterfield'a poems, hU A
drem to a Lady in, Aviumn ;—
'* The deiva of the even in » most carefully sban;
Those tears of the sky for the loss of the sun,**
R. R.^-Thcre is no doubt as to the writer of
account of Captain Starkey in the K-c^ff'Buy B^^\
namely, Charles Lamb.
G. L. G. deal res ta thank an anonymous ooi
at Norwich for his interesting communication i
P.— No one could aniMfer the queries except the iioUi
men and their agents.
J. B.— The word bus been ooounon in SootlAnd fo|
centuries.
R. S. B.— Too Uto for this week.
S. J. — A libel upon Darug.
NOTICE.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
81
m^PHQlf, SA TURnA r» A UGITST 1. IK 4
CONTENTS— N» 3L
¥
K0nBI:—11w Aid of At) no :ti fidiraird L, 81— The Ataeiit^ftn
gUtM-'W J. R.. si -8ir Robert Wilion's Xot«-B<ioka, 1827
'^ Potk-t/'"^ -' ^' r Botueflof Sinvt&ndSuihetl&nd— Dr
. Borring—m Dee's CrysUl—Pfrrttllei
1 of Cromwell — J uniiin aod "*The
k
Q!7«RI©:— <3<wi»tTlo— Wy*tt. or Wyit, Browne, Tufnell, 87
dar Dtufechtfjj. ■'^■\ •■ " --■ ' |f:^ .-.-of
til* (ktlenkl ^ ' — ■■■-^1 -!'•■ -- M ■ r' -Ss-
»>>,n_n... ^.■,. ■,.: -:-t,- -''. M '^ ..:::iu^:r:
Ar riUiic — Histuin!.!!,.-, Kin:: :, isB —
M: ■^— Sir Johu VVhithr- .«» ^
Tt^.., — ♦ -i(^ in*rk— Poeio t^ X. JsL li^..-.. Jitima**
BCnilBS :— FeeaUsr TrntnK^cit nf some Wordi in Futin^
Hon oo* LmiiraaSQtO snot • EqneatrlAo filsliie
ta LtlOfiitef Squ«re^ 91—1 le'a H&ml-'LtuiAf
BbMmw— ** M*rf eiy Mur < ' ii»rIoi 1, a? a Pool
—Tha BvU Ey«— Dr \r V^Ush^a and 8lr H. Halfofd—
Aftto«vl«t«<l PUoe-N^iiioes. Ui — MUion'a *' U Allegro " —
Afdbor K-niilv^WitAT mirks— "LttUa Monitor," ic,» »1^
"And *. -"Thu SiiMj^o"— "Lo ProcOj," &«.—
Tll« lln^ 'i —The BabstitutSon of I tUfl re for r—
.i , , .jnlil Tit!e-i of HoBoar**— Tho BloMod
' 4 V4Uo«iUna«i«ii Nan/' 9S^Th4 Bii^ " Tomplo"—
Yoifk to HoATvo " — Lofd GoUlugwood — Shirley
_>— 44»4rtn ( t.ii»irtnkf^ nr i :utidi_Tiiiteini Abbey— Tb0
nperor Ale^ ' e 8«ltelmore nod " Old
Mnftellly" Pi C.*jmtnjM-»-'*Iike" *i »
CbiiJtoAcsir>T3 ", /., rjuiei prevalent Lu ITliter—
*^e*'-f I ^ ^ . tsirtl— *'lWi«r''— Tivtrn I]ii«rl|>-
nolai Ofi Book^ 4«r
TEB AID OF AKXO 31 EDWARD L
It 'T****-- ri.ti tniie n ill if uny writer on Kent hits,
use of the Aid of
for the mtiJcia^ of
ioi Caroarvon u knight), or, at least, cited
jfeired to it a* nuh. The Aid of anno 2i*
Itl tie vied at the knighting of the Bldck
ifl brought forwiud in coiinexion with the
iitv of the manors bjr Philipot, Horria, and
i m iucoession, and jet this equally im-
it record— one, tix*, d.itlng forty ye»rB eadier,
ood invA] liable for tiettllug the descentg — seemt to
rity.
iting to Kent is
• '\xnr ' aiL^ction, No. 309y
introduced with the date
•'■'^ ^ *i irUe of the
1 it in the
,uod to the
»tf
*tf »**.,■- -•' ..^.....
Dcii Aid of Like
mdaf oi events,
prmmbk. But the i^oond entry of the
«|iiftv« tw aI naot wL it if re illv ;>. for it inform* us
Uiitatt^ i^'in Hundred
fiseiiiTAinuitte^Iii M
of OauUemiFy *'; iir.
ifMBi^ and l]i« lUforxu^uoQ ooiy two A
of Omtettntfy of the name, wlio occur iu , , e
proximity to each other, yU., Robert Kilwnrdby,
li!73-7S, and Robert Winchelsey, 1293-1313.
Moreover the second of them muit be intended,
because no other Aid of that character took plsiLe
durintj either of their archiepiscopate^, knighthotxl
hiivio^^ been conferred on Edward Lon^'shanka sa
ikr buck oa anno 38 Henry IH. (vid^^ fragment of
Aid of that year preserved by Kobert Glover,
Somerset, in HarL >lS., No. 245, folio 38). Agnin,
at folio 123 of this Lansdowne MS., we have a copy
of the veritable Aid of anno 20 Edw-ird IIL (of
which Philipot li' ' Mn hia
Collections for Kr lioStJ);
and if any one wiii iUKe uie inniuif- ir> <u»mpar©
these Aids he cin hardly come to any other coa-
cl(Mioo^ I think, than that the finst of them is
undoubtedly the next preceding one, of like
auture, to that of anno 2U Edward III,; and it
seemit probable, in addition, that it was made ii^e
of for determining the assessments of the latter.
But independently of such indication?, which a
careful comparison cannot, in my opinion, fail to
impress upon the mind, the evidence afforded by
au examination of the several entries thenvselvee
corrobonilesv and to a great extent, the date of
anno 34 Edward I. for the earlier record. For
irLstance, ** Henry de Gobham, junior,*' pays aid
for Couling, and John, hb father, did not die till
»Xk&o 28 Edward I. ; the date must necessarily be
posterior to that year. Bartholomew de Biidlea*
mere ^ys aid, but his Either, Guncelin, was not
dead till anno 2f> Edward I. ; it cannot, therefore,
be earlier than the latter date. None of the CrioU
of the elder branch, which became extmet in anno
30 Edward I. by the death of Eertrand de Criol
without issue, and the acceasion of his sister to the
estates, are mentioned ; the date lb, consequently,
later than this*
On the other hand, Walter and Robert de
Vrvloi|^3 pifty aid for Otham, but " Robert, the son
itf Walter de Valoigns, and Robert de Valoign,s *'
(his uncle), were declared lords of that place m
anno 9 Edward II, [iHd^ Parliamentary Writs),
prior to which the date must be. Aijain, Thomas
de Ley bourne pays aid, and there is only one of
the name in tbo Leybourne [)ecli^ ' 'he
heir to Sir William do Leybourni te
hi" ^ *^ " ]n anno 1 Edward 11. li-^'v, ^^mcli
foL Mgument of any date to the document
tliat pr V,
to TriV I: ■ -.,...,..■ , '_ .-.'j'n"
al! iuit it is : al lh>^
m;t d of Carii , it will
be seen that the internal evidence of the few I
hnrti cited alone «ufRee3 to eonfine the possible ei r^
of its compilation to the interval betw'eon tinno 30
• His father, also entered ai paying aid, oaly « ic^v^-e^.
him two reare, dying In W^% \««t AlxK«:<)logifltQ*^'S>«~a,
vol. T. p. 133, kc).
NOTES AND QUERIES.
iS^'S/II-Airo. 1,74
Edward I. and anna 1 Edward II., or a period of,
at most, little more than Bve years.
James GjiEJRNSTaEKT.
THE AMERICAN STATEa
I hare the foUowuig cutting in a scrap-book of
tlie year 1840. It k worth embuiming in
** OuaiN OF TBE Nambs of the Btatks op Amekica.
I. Id sine was so c&Ued as earl; as 1633, from Moinej
Lin France, of -which Henrietta MariUj Queen of Bugland^
f'm&s at that time proprietor.
"2. New Hampanipc waa the nanie Riyen to the territory
conveyed bv the Plymouth Company to Capt. John Mason,
by patent, ^ot. 7j 10:^9. with reference to the pateidee,
who vru Qoveraor of PortBmouthi in Hampshire, Bug-
laud.
,i. Vermont waja so culled hy the inhahitantB in their
declaration of independence, Jan, 16, 1777i from the
French vcrd, i^reea, and mont, mountAin.
4. MsAsachuaettg derived its name from a tribe of
llndians in the neighbourhood of Beaton. The tribe k
I suppowd to Imve derived its name from the Blue Hills
rof Milton. ' I have J earned,' Ays Roger Willkms^ * that
' the MasmehneettB were so called from the Blue Htlla,'
5. Rhode Island was bo called, in 1641, in reference to
the Iflland of Rhodes in the Mediterranean.
6. Connecticut wb« bo called from the Indian name of
it* principal riyer.
7. New York (originally called New Netherlands) wa*
so called ID reference to the Dulce of York &Qd Albftny^
to whom this territory was granted.
8. New Jersey (originally called New Sweden) wu so
^ named, iti 1644^ in compliment to tiir George Carte re t,
I one of its oritrinal proprietors, who had defended the
[ Island of Jersey against the Long Parliament during the
I civil war of England.
0. PennBylv&nia was ho called, in 1681, after William
[ Penn, the founder of Philadelphia.
IQ. Delaware was so called^ in 1/03, from Delaware
Bay. on which it lies, and which received its name from
Lord 0e ta Warr, who died in this bay.
II. Maryland waa so call oil in honour of Henrietta
Maria, Queen of Gharlea L, in his patent to Lord
[Baltimore, June 30, 1632,
I 12. Virgin La was so called, m 1534, after Elizabeth,
Llhe viigia Queen of England.
T 13 and 14. Carolina (North and South) was so called,
f in 1664, by the French, in honour of Cbarles IX. of
fyrancc,
15. Georgia was so called, in 1772, in honour of
George IL
16. Alabama was so called^ in lS17j from its principal
river.
17> Miaainippi was so called, in 1790, from its western
boundary. MiasisBippi is said to denote the whole river;
tliat is, the river formed by the union of many,
18. Louisiaua woa so c&Ued in honour of Louis XVI.
of France.
19. Tennesice was so called, in 179t5, from iti principal
river. The word Tennessee is s&td to signify a curved
^•poon.
20. Kentucky was so called, in 1782, from its principal
river.
21. Illinois was so called, in 1809, from ita principal
liver. The word is aiud to signifv the river of men.
22. Indianji was to cilled, in 1802, from the American
Indians.
23. Ohio was so colled, in 1802, from iU soatbeni
boundary.
24. Mlsfiouri WM so called* in 1S21„ from Ha princnpil
river,
25. Michigan w so called, in 1805, frcm the lake oa
iti borders.
26. Arkansas was so called, in 1S19, from its princip
river.
27. Florida wos so called^ by Jn&n Ponce de Leon, i
L562, because it was discovered on £aster Sunday-
Spanish , PatnuL Florida,
28. Texas was so called by the Spaniards, In 1090, w|
that year drove out a colony of French who bad
lished themselves at Mittagorda, and niAde their :
permanent settlement.
29. WisGongin was so named, in 1836, from the rifi
of the some name, when a territorial goTemmeot i
formed.
30. Iowa was so called, in 1838, after a tribe of IndiaDS
of the same name, and a separate terriloriaJ gore
formed.''
CoRirra |
[With reference to Virginia, we may add a note wh
is of interest on both sides of the Atlantic. John, foi
Earl of Dunmore, was the last British Governor i
Virginia. At nearly the close of his govemon
youngest d«ughter was bom in that colony, fron
she was named the Lsdy Virginia Murray.
ginia was siater to the Lady Augusta Murray, i
wife of the late Duke cf Sussex. The date of Lady '
gifiia'a birth was about 1777; and in Dcbrttt or
year, 1874^ we find recorded as now surriving, *' Murra^
Lady Virginia^ daughter of the fourth Earl cf Lunmore^ ')
W, J. R.
I have just be«n reading a rare semi-poetic
tract, which deaerves, I tnink, a brief note
your columns. It is a small 4to. of twelve
the first of them r«!i<ling : —
"September 1, 1850. Fresh Waters from a Fresh
Spring. Wave the First. W. J. R. Price 6d, Pub-
lished by the Author. Printed by T. Smith, d« Bridge
Court, Westminster,"
The hrockurc opens with a prose article^ entitl
*' The Siesta/^ written in a %^in of juvenile enl '
Biasm :—
" Few men, he they as commonplace minded as they
may, but have pleasant thoughts occasional It llasluii|
across their moncy-Ioving beartF, of spen^ng the deqUof
of their lives amongit the hills and d^ea_
native county. For my x>art> I am ever dw«
true castle -building intensity, upon the tim« ]
shall be able to forget there is such a place ;
and when—
' Passing rich with fifty pounds a year/
I shall be ahls to dedicate myself to nature and my
books, and leave the busy arena of life to spirits more
calculating and cold than my own."
Further on, speaking of those who derote them-
selves to the rac€ for wealth, he says \ —
*' Heaven help them, let them delve on —I envy 1
not, and, dreamer as I am. I would rather be a ffmliU
vifionary than a hardened lump of metal, with a V^
stamped in the mint of crime, bearing the kapr
avarice and guilt.''
M>etid^|
note ^H
Fresh
Pub-
ridge
they
iluni
lea qC^£U
J as LfmSm, '
mmm
^
^
Doling this iMila eomes a dream, wHicb 15 told
hi recM. First, saji he, —
'* I eair«n old mm gray :
Itift ebc«k wif thin uid withered, hia flowing beard was
white.
And hii e;« «s tnum a OftTera threw out its pallid light
And «Ter on the rippling wftTM the froth green buds he
WhttowftntoQ windi in whiepera their woeful dirgep snng,
'Whiibcr mw»j, Child, wbttber?' Wu voice was stern
mod deep.
*J fOv' Miu If ' to ntber the pe^rli from yonder steep.'
The old man laugbed a noiwten laugh, — * They h»?e a
brilliiLnt hue,
But they'll rantsh ai you gnup them, they are but
pearlj of dew."
■ Wby pluck thoee budleUj Father 1 Why caat them ibu«
»w»y t '
' I am the world*j wide waiter. Child, in me all tbingH
decay.
bTbf«e bud* are bot the emblems of cbi1dhood*e early joyi,
llflych ere they burst to blovaom, youth's early care
' dcitroyB/'
TliM is the key-not^ of the pocnL Again, oa a man
'1 of power and riches, ana afterwards^
<i>nt and wrinkled," he raeet« the old Grey-
Weoned horn the vanitieu of the world h©
" I tremblingly withdrew,
Ihe path that led to lOTe, more bright than
fmrt» d/ dew,'*
Withevident marks of juvenility these yerses give
|ifi»iii9e of poetical power and expression. They
are even more remarkable for their enthusiasm and
kwr© of Nature and poesy. AIbjs for the high
llOMt of youth ! the poet-dreamer, the *' guiltleaa
IJHOiiMyt" ^a« afterwards known to all nien as
^^BBftin James Hobson, whose frauds upon the
PH^pal Pakce, to the amount of about 26,00<U.,
^l^^in 1666, to his transportation for twenty
DtTDLBT ARMTTAGIE,
am KOBERT WILSON'S NOTB-BOOKS, 1827.
I. •• When Favraa wat condemned at Paris during the
BiiTililtttioD, Monnenr, the preaent Louis the XVIIL, was
I of being hie employer. On the da? the execu-
I waa to tike place Monsieur, instead of dining at his
1 hour of 2 p Ji., ordered dinner to be kept buck till
I for. Between 6 and 7 o'clock, his at Je-de-camp
^g^e^T^*-*^* ' miclf into the apartment, and in joyous
M^t' li out, * C'est fait' Monsieur turned
iBlDi> irndant, and snid, ' Qu^on serve.'
•• Iaxlh^, till he mounted the scaffold, r«lied on Mon-
•inr^f procuring him a pardon ; and Moniiear was kept
to 9^pmj, fearing that he might, in hi« despair and anger,
make an aocusatorv confeaiion/'
^ " General Lallemande saw a letter in Madame^s
ttha wife of Monsieur) own hmidwritin);!:, In which, when
rdattligthe oommitto,! of tb* (^ueLri to the Temple^ she
addc. 'IjB. vuth'i uu sjhi Itikliie fn Vj-Hiloit/"
of the tiffair of the diamond
iio du Barry wat mode the
juiuxa^ prin?j*4j Hk rci&uon of it* tltuftrated with the moft
utiiiin «f»nacB^ and trMttauttcd a copy of it to alt
the Courts of Europe. Two eopiet are now at Copen-
hagen, and are called ' Mons^* edition.'
'* My informant saw them."
4. *' Pope Sixtus \. published a Bull of Excommuni-
cation agHinst Henrr IV., in which he calls him ' The
basturd and detestable generation of the House of Boor-
bon.^R. W."
5. " Le Pr^aident do Thou, the gretit hlfltoria.n af
France, relates that * Franr^ois dc Guise wished to aaaas-
sinate Antoino de Navarre, father of Henry IV., in the
Ch&mber of Francis the II., baring engaged ihLg young
prince to permit the murder,' *'
6. " Murat said to me at Bologna, in Italy, in the year
1814,— 'Pour un aoldat tel que moi qui sest missurle
tr6ne r6pC'e h, la main, on no peut aescendre que de
passer au torn beau.'"
7. " The Diilicarlians bad by their fidelity preserved^
and br their valour restored, Gustavus to his tnrone.
*' The Eiame DalicArlians engaged to re-establkh the
monster tyrant, Christiem IL of Denmark, on condition
that * they might again sing their Psalms in Latin ' —
which they did not understand — 'and burn every
Lutheran, without dtstmction of age, sex, or condition/
QustATut himself included, l»ecause tbey had eaten meat
upon a fait day !
'* This fury of ignorance histed till the peasant found
his taxes diminished in proportion as the priests were
made to refund their usurpations, to restore their silver
idols to the mint, and their superfluous bells to the
foundries,"
8. "Gustavus, when working in the mines of Dali-
oarlia, flattered himself that he had taken every pre-
caution against discovery, fiut he had omitted to leave
off wearing an embroidered Fhirt; and was detected by
a female eye or Aant/— ' Honi soit qui malypcnse.'—
R. W."
9. ** When the tenatora of Sweden were being executed
at Stockholm by the order of Christiem. the Bishop of
Linkoving, when directed to lay bis he^d on the block,
begged the commaDdlng officer to break the seal of hia
arms which had been nflixed to the warrant for the
arrest of the Archbishop of UpsaK Chriitiem himself
tore off the seal, and found underneath a little note
' protesting against the act which, from fear, he had been
obliged to sign/ The long bead of the bishop saved hia
neck/'
10. "^ Had Napoleon but studied more the policy and
life of GustavuB, he would have reformed the Ckun^ ef
Francd^ and secured the conformity of Rngland to hU
Imperial Establishment.— R. W."
11. ''Maasena, on being aaked. when about to take
command of the army of Italy, which was his baggage,
replied by taking out of hi" pocket (me shirt and a map.*'
12. '^ Sir Benjamin Bloomfield udvised Lady Cochrane
to introduce into ber proposed memorial the term
sovereign as often aa possible, * Since it was an appel-
lation which much pleased His Majesty/ "
13. "0. III. had the habit of unAwering all appUea-
tions by the phrase, *I will think about it.* Lord Wal-
singbam one day answered him by * Then I vrill think no
m<xTe about it.' **
Herbert Bakdolfh.
qidmouth.
folk-lore.
Witchcraft, — Although the belief in witch
craft is dying out in proportion to the spread of
educittioti and common-sense, yet certain l^i^nds
and traditions concerning those who *^ trafficked
with the devil'' are stdl circulated in maay
AND QUKKIES.
[5»*S.1L AW;1,«
loc»Jitie». I heud two examples of these, which
perlnvps may interest some of the readers of
**N, & Q;' The first bails from the " Kingdom of
Fife"; the second is in eoanerion with that part
of West Scotland in which I was born and fetill
reside. The first tntditicn is as follows : — An uged
woman, bearing the chiiracter of a witch, lived
ulone in a miperable hovel, situated on an eicten-
moor iB the centre portion of Fife- Besides
•aring the notoriety of being an " uncanny wife/'
she was celebmted in the district for a wonderful
breed of "dooB*^ (pigeone) which the reared. On
a certain day a boy made his appearance at the old
woman's hut, and desired to purchase one of these
pigeons. Being suppUed ajceordijiEj' to \dn whhes,
he turned his steps nomewajdn, but had scarcely
gone a mile when he discovered that the pigeon
had disappeared, Scarcely knowing whnt he did,
be returred to the old hag's hovel, where on
entering he beheld his own bird sitting amongst
its kin. An altercation immediately enaued be-
twixt him and the old wonianj but lie eventually
regained possesBion of the bird, which this time he
carried home in safety. Next momiug, however,
it was nowhere to be eeen, and, after a search, was
a^ain discovered in the witch's hut» The boy's
pai^ents, by thia time becoming suspicious that
there had been some supematunil agency em ployed
in this miruiculous diBappeamnce, applied to anolhf-r
old woman for aid, vho advised them to send
their boy to the witch's habitation, who, unseen,
should cut off a small portion of her petticoat,
wliich, on the boy's return, should be thrown into
the fire. This waa done. No sooner had the rag
cftnght fire than a great noise woa heard, and the
old witch appeared at the doorway. Exclaiming
that they were burning her heart, «he rushed
forward, seized the fiaraing fragment from tbe
bciiTth, disappeared, and waa never again seen in
that district. The second tradition relates to a
once celebrated witch, Meg Lang, of Dumbarton,
who, being convicted of witchcmft, and a dhy
being appointed for her execution, begged the
magifitiates to grtint her a boon, which was that
one of their number should be sent to Glasgow to
purchase two pewter plates, whitih were to be
Drought to her, but on no ticcount waa either of
th(?m t^ be allowed to touch water. Her request
having been granted, one of the bailies was
despatched to Glasgow for the plates. Having
made his purchase, he turned homewards, and
about half-way began to feel rather thirsty. At
this point, happening to approach a beautifully
clear, cool stretmi, he detCTmined to indulge him-
self with a drink of water. He tried to bend his
head down to tiio water, but, being of a rather
obefl© eonfonnation, was unable to do ko ; so at
last, utterly regardlcs* of the instructions which
were given hiin, he filled on« of the plates, took a
heaxty **waucht,' and continued hjs journey to
Dumbarton, On the day appointed Meg Lang
was led out to execution. On approitcliing tl
gtate, she^ holding' a plate in each hand, con
menced to flap with her arms a^ birds do wif
their wings, hhe mounted a few y.ird8 into
air, when one arm was observed to find her, i
whirling round, she fell to the ejixth, and tl^
execution was proceeded with, not, however, 1
it wa^ discovered that the arm that lailed J
held the plate from which the worthy
drunk, *D, D,
The Bkll akb theGhavf. — A r.n^iHb fnnnir
vicarage was lately startled by the i
wonted hour ofthe church bell. On >^ N
tain theciusc of Ihc disturbance, an*' old mhabitantj
was found in the belfry, who had been engaged, f
the absence or illness of the u»ual sexton, to dig^
grave. He said, in explanation, thnt in hi?
it was alwaye usual for the grave-d ' o\i
bell three times before breaking t.
ground. ,J, it.
"Star dcmsoing the Mook'' (5^^ R. i. 3S4:'-
l^ome years ago, an old fisherman o'
me, on the morning next after a Tioi<
had foreseen the storm for some tiinf, aa ht: lu
observed *^ onu star ahead of the moon, towing "
uud another aatem, chaaing her. I know^dJ
coming, safe enough." He had simply ootio
moon nearly in a line between, imd tomewli
two conspicuous stara or planets.
Torquay.
Popular Sitpkrstitionb.^A striking instmnd
came lately under my observation. Travellfa
along a main highway in East Cheshire, I antic
hanging against the outbuildings of a comfortable
looking farm-house what seemed to be a bundlj
of bones and hide. On inquiring at the place, {
was told it was a cufitorti when a cow **Flippedi
her calf (that is when the birth was untiiiscly) 1
suspend the dead ctilf against the cow-bouse,* aa (
charm to prevent the other cows from doing
same.
In the above case the remains of the calf
stated to have been hung up during twenty ye
and were brought from another laxni wmcb
owner had previously occupied.
Some people say that the cjJf ppematurely '
must be secretly buried in another townslit^
The words ** picking " and ** casting ** are m^
in the same sense as "slipping.** Few ma
prove more conclusively the euprii
the education which has hitherto,
rural districts than the
among many farmers and
ashamed to openly avow iinr
are privately cherished by tti
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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The Houses of Stdart A?n> SoTHBRLAifD.—
IfttD not awnre il' ' " M-^ - .ra that, ac-
cordiii^ to the tttf representa-
lior '^-^ '' Tise oi .HLi. J .J. iii have sue-
Cff' throne ol on the death of
K\h^ L , Bruce in Ly, ., .-.. ; ?it)f the House of
Stuiirt.
T}w illustriouR King Rohert Bnwe had three
^^ Marjory, who was maiTi«d to the
i of ScotlaDd, and who waa King Robert's
dbaxghter by hJ9 Jirst wife. By his ieaond wife, he
iflii tLin^ David and a datigbtefi who Wfts married
to the Earl of ButherlAiid, It is n weU -known
lepal nile that, in Kiiccession, the fuU blood ex-
chi' If. The Countess of Biitherlftiid, or
her nts, ou^ht, therefore, to have sue-
cec<ic'l ti> tilt? throne on the death -of King David.
. Thig was f*o clear that it was recoj^ntzed and
I for by King David and the L<?gii^!uttire ;
fune^cpected death of the elder son of the
irnmedjately after attaining iminhood
Ducert^d this ftrraiifrenient, her other 9on being
in infancy or little more ; Jind, on King
id's dying shortly affcerwardF, the Steward of
IliTu] ili^> son of MttTJory, ascended the throne
rt IL, and that without any oppo-
t in the shape of war, on the pari of
Ottse of Sutherland. There were, in the cir-
ttnces, numerous und sufficient reasons for
pferrin;? the Steward. (1.) Bcotknd was still
an nn'ipttlpd stnte after long wars with the
Ai nation no doubt. cleiKfly
ble that they «honld have
in^' iQ nil I In- > i;;oiur of manhood. (2.) Ac-
cording to the historians, the Steward poesewied
mftt pergonal qualihciitiona for the office. (3.)
He wms of undoubted descent from King Robert
" ' *' ^ too, by his eld^ (mughter.
\vere extremely powerfnL (5.)
vxiitoriea lay in a ranch more
Bition in Scotland than did those of the
F^inls.-rl.MiuI. r; \ TlN.fr exertions had
' !*'■ independence
I '"^utliriiantj had
little or nothii ji that
I r, might be :i je, at
to the distance of the county of
'in the chief itcene of strife — the
But be that as it may, there
t the exertions of the Stewards
» wdi fic iielri to jgive to th^ir hotijsc the beet
ia the cirtunkHtances, to incceed U-* the
t«— n ngbt of the Kame imMcemi.t
m tkiC of Kni» E*jbcrt Btvee hiiiuelf, w
]lirw«ft d-
bad, wi^
IIm itnVt
tbaL, bef
hit dftu^:
Toyal family or .^t 4-
Litfttivc according lo
It may be added
irriage, the right of
uf her husband, the
9le«»r<( md of their diwceudantB, to succeed to
the throne was recognized by the Scottish Legis-
lature ; and, while the birth of Dnvid II., lind uf
hi« sifltcr, the Gountess of Batherland, m*y lie
held to huve 8uj>erseded tbi - — ......t- r -f, it m^y
be »Md to have been ultiur t to ia
the Buooeeeion of Robert IL .. ..i. ...^ ..iuarroaoe
Off the Legisbtfure, Reicrt Kiloodil
Dr. Dojtxb. — I have a copy i ' Pottrnt
Tonson'g edition of 1719, on the \] i o end <i
which there is in MS. a poem ;> ^< 1 1 1 ! 1m. I>otiai,
of which I send a copy, If t hv jh l u. i n t knowji,
or not known a? Donne '«, it nmy be of interest to
your re^iders to learn the foUowifng partiouhira.
The ink is a good deal faded, and the handwriting
18 that of the beginning of the hL<?t century. The
volume had the book-plate of ** Marquis Coro-
walLis" pasted inside the cover. On examiniijg
it carefully, I thought I saw some sign -of thia
phite having been pasted over another. I mtsed
the Marquis's book plate, and found my con-
jecture confirmed by the discovery of an earlier
plate of the Comwallis amis, with a barorl*8
coronet, and with the following inscription en-
graved under the shield r " Cha : Cornwallia, tfi
Comwallis/* On referring to Brj'dges*^ CoWiiw,
vol. ii. r>5ri, I find that Charles *Oomwallis, the
fifth baron, succeeded in 1721-2, and wiw treated
a viscount in 1753. The presumption, therefore,
would be that the MS. poem in this copy is in his
handwriting. The following ia a copy of the
inscription or poem. This poem I found in an
old m^muscript of Sir John Cotton, of Btmtlo%
UuntingdoDahire :—
"Abuxos, bt J. Doirxe.
1.
AlMoncc^ hear thou my protestatioir
Apkinst thy strength,
Bbtanoe and length,
Do what thou canst for alteratton.
For Hcftrte of truest MottiJ
Abwnoe doth joyn and time doth wiUe,
2.
Who loves a miitresw of such qnality
His mind hath found
Affieotioti's ^roiiiid
Btyond time, pkce, and »11 mortalttj'^
To hearts that cannot rary,
Abeenee U pra«ent, time doth Tarty.
3.
My fenset want their outward iziotloa
W(h)ilo now ivitbia
Eea«on dotii win*
Redoubled by her «ecret Nt»tion,
Like rich men that tnko nh?anire,
In hiding^ meM than handling treamre.
By absence Itii j ^ood meitti I gaiit,
Thftt I cftn cwAeh her,
When' rionr cnn wnteli h^T.
In some cl
There 1 i
AbA fO enjuy nrr vrniio Tionc miif>9 her."
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TES AND QUERIES.
[S'** 8,
iira.
BuRiJiNG V. BuRYiyo. — The following raay be
worthy the notice of those interested in cremation.
See memoiri of the Literary arid FkiloBophical
Societif of Majushe^ttry 1793, vol. iv. pt. i. p. 217,
Plates^ being a eommunicjition of "An Antient
Mode of Sepnlture/' from Mr. Alex. Copland of
IJrr, 30 Oct.» 1792, to Dr. Percival, and read before
the Society, 30 Nov. 1792; also, vol. iv. pt. ii
&330, a p.*iper from the same {gentleman to Mr.
arv'ev, Secretary, ** On the Combustion of Dead
Bodies formerly practised in Scotland/' read 4 Oct,
1793, before the same Society.
Richard Hemming.
Warrington, MX.
Dr. Des's Crystal,— The newspapers record
the death of Commander Riclmrd Jamei? Morrison^
the compiler of ZadkitVi Almanac, It will be
remembered by many that, in a trial in which he
was concerned several years ago, it came out that
he was the possessor of Dr. Dee*s magic mirror, so
fia^moua in the early part of the seventeenth century,
to which was ansij^'ned the credit of having made
known the Gunpowder Plot. So widely was this
aasertion believed, that it found its way into our
Prayer Books. In one, print^^d by Baskett, 1737,
18 a picture representing the mirror diaoloaing the
facts. Surely it is well worth while to see that this
magical relic be preserved, and not left to be sold
for old lumber, and be lost and forgotten.
E. L, Blenkinsopf.
Parallel Passa^ses. — Correspondents of " N.
& Q " have quoted parallel passages which cannot
be reckoned proofs of plagiarism. The most strik-
ing instance I know occurs in Aristophanes, Eipini;,
L 948 :~
If at iivL^aipaVy
KqX Tl»P^t TQVTiy KQV^^V to'X'^h ff^"*/^' TO TTpofiaTOVf
Compftred ivith Genesis xxii. 7 : —
" Behold the lire and the wood ; hut where m the
lamb for a bumt-offerlng ] '^
S. T. P.
Anecdotes of Cromwell. — I have met with
the following anecdote in a book of newspaper
cuttings collected about 1788-1792. I do not
remember to have seen it elsewhere. Like many
anecdotes of the great Protector, it la probably
apootyphal : —
" ProTioiifl to the battle of Marstcm Moor, Lieuteniint
Cjk&eral Cromwell had Mot out 8pie« to reconnoitre the
king's fore ea under the command of Prince Rupert. Not
oonfiding in their report of the dijipoflitiofj of the enemy,
and detcrmiaed to g&m personal information, unknown
to any of hia officers be procured the habit of a farmer,
with which hanng equipped himself, be mounted a cart-
horse, takes a circuit from the camp and reconnoitres the
king's forces from every conyenient point of view; but
being observed by some eentineli, troopers wore sent out
to take him prlioner. On coming suddenly upon him,
they accosted him roughly: Oliver, pretendtag deafness,
naked with the greatest tranquillity, For what porpose
those brave men were armed? On being informed that
they were the king**, and that the opposite troops b« ~
longed to the Parliament, 'What!' said Oliver, 'han
they diflTered tbenl' The Mmplictty of the queitioi
excited laughter among the troopcra^ and Oiiver wi
permitted to proceed to his camp without
molestation."
I also not loBg since read another Cromv
anecdote^ which was, like the above, new to
buti as FlueUen sa^-s, '" it is out of my pn
where I met with it. I must accordingly te"
well as I can from memorj\ Cromwell,
riding one day in Scotland, was fired at ; thel
of course missed its aim. Oliver, without eve
stopping, merely turned round, and crie<i outj
^' Fellow, if one of my soldiers had miased stich i
mark, he should have had a hundred lashes.'^
I wish to end with a query a prqpo* of the reiL
used by, or attributed to, Oliver, Did floggin
exist in the Parliamentary army ? I think it vc
improbiihle that those grim warriors who, aa the
great leader himself said, *' had the fear of '^
before them, and made some conscience of wh
they did," were ever subjected, or woidd inde
have submitted, to the indignity of the laaL
Jonathan BotrcHiKii.
Junius and *'The Ministerialist.*' — Abooi
the month of October, 1783, probably soon after
the publication of the "booksellers* edition*'
Junius had revived the attraction of the nnm«i
Stockdale published a virulent attack upon th
new Govrernment, entitled The MinukrHiluit^ 1
Junius, with the t juotation from Macbeth, " Ca
such things be?" &c., as a motto. In our day
when Junms has become a classic, and liis styli
familiarized to na by a host of imitators, it it*
matter of difficulty to believe that this productioij
could ever have imposed upon anybody ; but it i|
nevertheless true that it was received by seven
of the journals as a genaine work of the ** mighty
boar of the forest."
The private affairs of Fox and Burke
handled here with a more tlian political iinimoaity
'^ A grateful countrj'," says the ^Titer, ** will lop
remember how cheaply they have purchased
appointment of the Duke of Portland ' ^
the tried in t^;rity of Messrs. Sheridan nii
that of Lord John Cavendish, of Lord i\i pp •
Lord Northington, and, above all, of the lligh^
Hon. Mr. Fox." And to the reference to Bat
a note ia appended : — ^
' ' Exemplified by the Opera-House scconnts of the onij
of wbtcb the Public will hear more in a court of Law]
and by the failure of the other in Im West India CoUei
torship, of which the Public ought to bear in the i
court.
In another part we are told how Fox, " out <
fine feelings of humanity for the sufferings of
ereditois, coodeocexidGd U> receive a hourly pittA&o
NOTES AND QUERIES.
87
foi mmisterlDg at a public gaming-table^'^ which is
afterwards explainea in ihis way : —
** For the infornmtioD of our Eeadtn we mtist state
tliat within tfaeM few months Mr. F— x held in wtDer*
ship with two other gentlemen a public Faro Bunk at
BralcetX a game so notnriouBf; fruudulent that It
' I rappreoed bj Act of Parlitinient. And aa a com
MMatioD for this labour* the dealer, an ofRce ivbicb
nvquantlT feU to the share of Mr, P., received from the
loiBt ftock the wages of fl?e guineas for eTory hour thus
MOotuably spent/
Who wn& the writer of thm pamphlet? The
iTiiQitioa hail, of course, no direct oeanng upon the
Jnmtis mjaterj, but it would be of some interest
to diacoTer the daring person who at this eiirly
diC0 Qaurped the uamCf and it would enable us to
j|]dg9 how far such usurpation majr account for some
of the mystifications connected with the inquiry. I
infer, from the criticism of the Monthltf Rsinew^
that it WHS regarded at the time as the work of a
mator in the camjp. **This pamphlet," says the
WTTCwer, " is not ill lATitteD, and would have gone
off well enough if the author hiid called himself
Jtdijui, or Juaaa, or anything but Junius."
C. Elliot Browi^'e.
[W« nrast request correspondents desiring information
on fiMni]]r matters of only private interest, to affix their
Banes and aildre«se8 to tiicir queries, in order that the
r aaspeJS may be addpeised to them direct. 1
■ — -
^M GosPATRtc, — Will Hjs&mekt&ods or other of
V your obliging readers aaaiat me in obtaining the
^LoBDoalogy of Gospatric, who appears, according to
^H^Wtaker, in his Laodu d Elmde^ to have been the
^HKn* or ancestor of John le Scot, of Sootty^ Hall,
^^^Ster Newton, in the township of Leeds^ York-
abirr T John le Scot was steward to the Empress
Maud circa 114^.
Snd* Was 6oZf Cob, or God (a name appearing
- ^ ") nmonymous with Gos or Cospatrick]
me minstrel, book i. ch. 4^ has the
>.^. „liich may aasist in the inquiry :—
**Ring Edirard (Rdvr. L) paat and Cospatric to Scone,
kwi there he ^ot homage of Scotland soone,
For riofie W4s left the reaTm for to defend.
For John Ilaliol to Montroae then he send,
M. put him down for erer off this KiDgrjk.
Than Edwards self was called a Royftd ryto,
Tkt Crown he took npon the self same stane.'*
6|Makiiig of tHe stone at Scone, the minstrel
^fOOfieds: —
** m« Jtwel he got tune into Enghind.
la Unulmi it set in witness of this thing,
By oonquevt then of Scotlaud called him King.
Wlim that stone is Scots aje should Masteni be^
CM ehase the time for MargnrtVt * hein to see/*
3rd. What is the meaning of the first line of the
above doggerel ?
4 th. Was the name of Goz» Coe, God, the
equivalent for ** Ysgod/* the British etymon for
the Anglo-Saxon **Scot-'? As it would appear
that the surname of David of Huntingdon, and Ids
progenitors from the time of Malcolm Eanmoie,
was that of " Le Scot/' — probably from his im-
mediate descent from the royal heir of Scotland, —
does any known connexion in way of descent or
near alliance historically exist between the family
of David of Huntingdon — whose only son was anr-
named John le Scot— and this Cospatrio, the
reputed father of John le Soot, stewartl to the
Empress ^f and before referred to ?
liistly, Wtis GoRpatric descended from the
ancient Earls of Northutuberhind or from the
Domesday Earls of Huntingdon (feifs to the reatm
of England held by the Norman Kings of Scot-
land) and Northampton, or was he connected with
the ancient Earls of Chester, the last Palatinate
Earl, of whom was John le Scot, in right of his
mother^ Maud» daughter of Hugh le Kevelioc ?
A^ I find, in my researches into the family his-
tory of the Kings of Scotland and their immediate
descendants^ that the name of Cospatric, or Gosl, Ik
frequently found in some connexion with them, I
am anxious to know in what descent (if any) the
connexion exists, pointing to a descent either from
Wiiltheof, Karl of Northumberland, and through
him to the Earls of Huntingdon and Northampton,
or eke through the Earls of Chester from the
ancient Saxon Earls of Mercia.
As I said before , I shall be emteful for any
information about him, or the locsdity of his caput
haronia;, in England or Scothind.
J. R. Scott,
Wtatt or Wyat, Browne, Tctfkell, — Con
any of your correspondents give me information
as to these families, and more narticularly with
reference to those persons of tne names giren
below. John Wyatt, said to be of Wychwood,
but noMibly of Burford, or Minster Lovcll, Ox-
fordaiiiiB (son of George Wyatt^ and grandson of
George Wyatt, who dietl U>24, the fourth son of
George Wyat, of Boxley, Kent, by hia wife Jane,
daughter of Sir Thomas Finch, of EastweU), mar-
ried Elizabeth, daughter of Samuel Browne. She
died 6 June, 1728, aged fifty-six, and her father
died 13 February, 172t», aged seventy-three. I
want to learn the date and pkce of maniage of
John Wyatt with Elizabeth (Browne), the dj^ of
his birth and death, the place of hia burial, and
hia occupation ; and also the same facto aa to his
father and grandfather, mth the names of their
wives, children, &c. I also seek infotmatioti of
Samuel Browne ; Captam Edward Tufnell, maaon
* MamMl, eldest daughter of David of Huntingdon, of John Baliol, Ring of ScoUaiidf and of bsr present
^mtx «f Jaha la Scot« Earl of Chester <12d7)f ancestress | Mj^tj^ Qoeen Victoria.
88
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5**aiL ce. i;*?!
to WestniinBter Abbey, who died 2 September,
17 19, and is buried in flie Abbey; married in
l(f97» at the Abbey, Anne, duugnter of Samuel
Bfowne. Is anything* known of the ancestry or
dOBeendantB of Edwiitd Tufnell i
Rkoinalt) Stewabt Boddington.
Bavwrll Court, Su me rj^ki'.— During the re-
aioTiition of tim jtucient tnaumon, Hoiue iew moDth»
ginoe, ik stone corl>el of lurge diiuenBiuoB was found,
at the bottom of an otd foundation ; upon it is the
(bllowing co«t : on a chevron three esutdlopSf the
ooJoufB not indicattiii. Aguin, at the back of an
old Qiantelpiei^e the aanie arnia, impiilin^ those of
tJiG ae© of Welk, were found t!urved on a piece of
Qttea atone. £«Jiwell Court was formorly the
sBsideDoe of the Biahopa of Bath and WeUa. I do
not tind the above coat as belonging to either of
the Biahoi»s. Perhaps gome of your reailers will
be able to infoi'm me to what family they belong,
uid how they come to be mip&led with the iinm
of the ate of Wells* Cearlbs Wade.
BanwttU.
FaiEDRicH Kapp's ** Geschichte dkr
Bkutsohen EmwANDERUNG IN Amerika.'' — Has
this work been tranfiiated into English ?
Jat ArrcH.
** SUflbrdflbirc, — The Widow of the Wood, an authentic
bftrmlive c^f tk luia remurktiblo Tranaaction in ^tafTord-
■hire. riifitilj Buppresi^d, am. Svo., calf neat, 21 f. 1755.
" Every copy of thiBextraordinury tiarratiTc that could
be rounil wiui l)ougbt up and destroyed by the descoD-
dftnU of the ftunily. To Is copy cout&iug MS. notes, and
» Key to die cbaracters/'
1 shall be nioeb obliged if some one will kindly
explain the meaning of this extract from a eatu-
logue of Mr. Downing, of 74, New Street, Bh-
mingham. CiiAHLEa F. S. Wakren, M.A.
EUendiej Bexhill, Hastings.
"Htstory op tmk Gexeral Election of
1802J'—In Suirth*s FarliammU of Enffland, vol.
til. p. 99^ there ia an extract quoted from tliis
work, page 149. Where can I see a copy of tliis
book f Is it in the British Mtiaeum^ imd if so,
under what heading / I have seitrthed for it there
in vain, Aino, can any one inform me who was
elected M.P- for Oaahel, vice Richard Bagwell,
reeigned in December, l&Jli I have a MS. note
(tAk«n^ I think, fi-om the retiu-na in the Crown
Offloe)-which givea " John Bagwell," elected I*e-
comber 0th, but who was this John Bagwell ?
One person of the name repreaent-ed the county
(Tipperary) at that time, and I do not know of
wjotW John in the family at the same tijue who
wii» eligible. Alfred B. Beavek, M.A.
Prvaton.
*' SiNopLiL"--Ciiaaanji, in his* chapter on French
Heraldry^ gives va-t as the equivalent for this word ;
I
but on refening to Hkiiiner, E(ifiM>logicoH Lifujut^
Aiiglicjxntr^ ed. If57!» I find it thus : —
** ^inople, » Fr. Siaople, Iiuhr%ca forte m Snioos Po&ti
urbe undc ohm adveotum, est q. d. Terra SbiopiOA.''
Which is rightj or haa the word been u^ed \
both? RorsBE.
IVLfiKBKLSBOSK. — ^Waa the eminent ooiii^
and musician any descendftot of, or in anylj
related to, Mose^ Mendelssohn HT^n st;'
friend of Lesaitig and the original
Jew in the latter's drama, Nathan ^
Jat Ajti^o.
The SociETT OF Ancie^jt Scots. — TLI ' * /
existed in 1S21, and edited Lim^ of ti>
ro€t4^ 3 Tok. IBuio. To the different nvts ure
merely notod initiaU, as follows ; —
W. A— B. T.— E. W.— B. K.— R. C— C. a~R. H
D. B.— a. M-n.-J. B.-J. R.-E. L-W. M.-D, C.
8. Y.^G, G.— T. M.— C. H.— M, M.— A. S. J. L
H: B.-B. 1\-B. M.-P. B.-P. R.-J. E.-^E. B.
H. s.-a. t.^j. m.— t. c— h. s.~a, t.— a. n
R. M.— D. K^N. J.^W, C.--K. F,— J. G,— W. W.
W. 0.~A, O.-O. E.-l). S.— W. B.-J. H.— P. B.-
T. McN.
Can any of your readers give the key ?
Charles Haines Gunk, — He is the author <
Di4uUory MourSy a volume of verse published i
Yanuiiutb^ 1844, dedicated to the Hon.
Hev, E. PeOew. Can you give me any informn
tion regarding him ? He was, if I mittake not, i
student at Cambridge, B* Inous.
Latimer : Arukdel. — In Burke's Ej^im
Feerage it BUttea that William Latimer, fourd
Lord Latimer of Dan by* married the Lady
beth Fit^-Alan, daughter of Richard, Earl
Arundel, From the dates given it mn^t cithc
have been the ninth or t«nth Earl whos •
was married to Lord Latimer. In 1
Fitz-Alan in the Extinct PeeriVfi^ I could ijyl tin
any daughter of either Karl who was married I
Lord Latimer. The Chi'islian name of the SQ
Earl in alwo EichanI, but it evidently wa* :
If it was the tenth Earl, the Latimera wc
entitled to the arms ot Fitx-Aian. I am
interested in finding out this, as our
• [Uarters the armx of Latimer with thoFc of Nev
W. G. TArTNTOs*
Heraldic. — To what femily appertains the fol-
lowing coat — Asfi., a eross pat6e between fourflencs
de lis per saltire orf Q<
Hemhikg, King of Denmark, reigned
811-12, aooording to Playfiiir^s C^rwioZojfjr, Ediji
burgh, 1 784. I wish for a reference to the life i
reign of this monarch, and the mcantiig of
name, if any. B. H*
»8Ln*Ar^l,74]
NOTES AKD QUERUCS.
89
y be looked upon
,;owhen?. Anyone
with thii? miormation "off-hjini," or
' 1 1 ion t o t work of tra^t worthy authority
i \j doin^ me a servicf .
fid in the :iutu!iin, and
like Uj cukiviite the acqujiintance of
w their native place, so shnll be ^'Imi
tkuow where they are moat likely lo be easily
'^ ; with. Leslib.
Sir Johs Whitbrooke.— Who was 8ir John
Hi ^ 1 1 Listley
Street. Feotiment diited 3l>th September, 9 Jamea.
Burke*» Arrtwry mentions a coat of unus f^nted
tf> tbiH ntune on 2nth March, 22 Queen ElizLibetk
There is & bouse in the Low Town^ Brid^norLb,
iiufcfked " Whitbrook Uouae '' on the map of 1835,
and Uiis may have been his residence*
Wm. p. Philljibiorb,
Soenton, Nott».
** OuEssKs AT Truth.-' — In this work, by the
bmUiers Hare, the paragraphs are maiked by let-
ters of the alphabet. In hia Preface to the reader
Jtiliu^ 311 y«» *' Such of them lu* rire distinguished by
•omt»fsipit:»l U^tter I have borrowed from my acuter
fti^ndft." U Ap[>cA» to be the cleverest of the lob.
I* ■ ! uho he was, and ttre the othem kno wu \
Jii' -f own contributions are unlettered ; of
llkeui iit« Kays, *' My own are little more thun
^fiamerinja^ I bad almost said dreams of thought ;
not ft word in them ia to be taken on truHt/'
C. A. Waed.
Jfayfur,
WATin^iUfcltiL — I am anxiotis to obtain in-
ane: the water-mark on a MS,,
rnnl evidence, must have been
^ v^^ of the reii^ of Charles IL
' oat, the de.^tgn represent?*
„ his hand, on the top of which
[-like hat. On the head of the
is, to appearance J a foolVcap,
him the lej^end " Pro Patria."
r-^igh is a 8ort of large curb-chain
I'he size of the MS,, I should say, is
ap r]Tiarto. About what period was thb
, and wa« there any circumstance in
saggett so singiUar a water-mark \
S.
i*OEii bT T. K. nF.Fivr.v.— Some seventeen or
iJ;: \vaa pabliished by tlie
1^. , o Barker, entitledf The
Th»m iMy* of l^'ifulsydoU^. In this book he
qttotei tlic foliowing poetHf attributing the same
to the lute Mr* T. K*.Herv%y. I am ansLious to
know whether tlie lines here gircn iire the whole
poem^ or whether, as I ?^tt«"«' -^ *here are more
verses which ^Mr, Barker i ven. I have
searched in many likely ana .„.. . y places in the
vain hope of discovering the original.
**Tlirit nuict liind i,vli£Tt>, peril paflt*
'* pose;
'i at Ufit
A IJflllil T'>r UM X'y- \Sur'fi. ;
And lowly ^'■ri<'t' and lurdij prid^
Lici dowu like brotUeriii aide by «idc.
Tho broftth of ilaoder oaunot come
To break the calm that lingers there ;
There is no < iho tomb,
No waking ii
UukiudnM-s t...... -, ., ...uad us more,
And &I1 earth's bittemess id o>r.
There the foaiden weita lill her lover come.
They neirer more shall part ;
And the ttricken deer hath fitted her home
With the M-row in her heojrt ;
Aud pa88]on''B puUe lies liii«]jed and itill,
Beyond the reacli of the tempter'a AkiU»
The mother— she U Kone to sleep,
With ber babe upon ner brewit—
Bhe ha6 no weary watch to keep
Of ©r her infant's roit ;
H\» alumbera on her Ixxsom fair
Shall never more he broken— there»'*
Anoit*
** Ultima " as a Ohbistiak Namb.— In a eon-
vcrSati -' ^ ^ - V n few days ago, with ■ -^ ■ -^ ' lady
of L.I! f»aid that the ymitv hter
of a n , ..iLi ,. wifts family WBs nanK-v v .,LUia/'
Is this a solitary instance f There are miiny
ftuvttriml Christian names, both male and female,
but I never heard of an ** Ultima " before !
By-the-bye, the name would be an unfortunate
one if an Ultima was not the kiM, but a
FtnniHma ! Richard Baxter's " laat words *' were
obliged to be followed by " more hist words ! **
Btephbn Jackbox.
Muse :—
ly Mme ^ntlo MvM
: ucky words favoar my deitin'd urai
An I tk^h* pu9c» tnrn*
And bid fair mNU» be to my iablc shroud, "
Milton. Lycidat, 19-21
Is there any other inatance of a gentleman Muse
in English poetry ? A. L, Mayhkw.
OxforC
GowT, Ek«ravek, — I have an engrared pot-
tniit of a Gresham Professor, of 1644, mjirked
**rjrowy del" Who waa this Growy, and where
c^uld 'l inform myacif about him ? I^Tone of tho
ctirrent bio^^raphiciil wuikn of painter? or en-
gravers mention that B» G.
University College, Ll
90
NOTES AND QUEItlES.
tP^aELAudjTI.
PECULIAR TREATMENT OF SOME WORDS D?
PASSING FROM ONE LANGUAGE
TO ANOTHER.
(5^ S, L 247.)
ll would not be difficult to give nmny in-
stances of names beinj< entirely diverted from
their originttl significations in parsing from one
jAnguftge to another, for it is eo very natuml for un-
educated and illiterate people to attempt to ^ve
to a word which, to their minds, conveys no definite
ide& a sense which has some aignificanoe in the
dialect they are familiar with, that such instances
will be always found where two languages meet^
or where foreign words are introduced into a
language. The word €i$paraqus^ corrupted into the
English Aparrow-gra&Sf is a familiar instance, and
many similar might be adduced. Probably on the
confines of England and Wales other changes of
names quite as extraordinary na that of Yr Eifi
into ** the Rivals" might be found.
A Welshman or Breton would have little diffi-
culty in remembering the names af localities in
Cornwall, bcciiuse, in most cases, they have a sig-
nificance in the dialects with which he is familiar.
Penzance = Holy head, a neighbouring hamlet,
Chyandour (Welsh Tt-an-dwr) = House on the
water, are examples of this ; but the Corni^hmen
of the present day have long lost all knowledge of
the ancient Celtic tongue spoken by their ance^ors,
and the consequence is that chimges of name quite
as strange as the instance given by Mr. Fallow
01*6 not uncommon. The name of Monsehole, n
fishing village near Penzance, is said to be a cor-
ruption of the Cornish words Moz-hayh^ the
** maiden's brook,'* or Mm^fnd^ the " sheep^s moor.'
More than one locality in that county bears the
extmordinarj name of Weary-me-out, evidently a
(x>rruption of some more ancient appellation. On
the eastern border of the county, near Plymouth,
there is a ferry called Penny-come- quick, and a
legendary story has been invented to account for
the name ; but a Welshman will have no difficulty
in Tecognizing in the first three syllablea Ftfi-v-tumi,
= the " Head of the combe." What may be the
meaning of the last syllable I know not, but doubt-
less it has one.
English ffimily names derived from a Norman
source have undergone largely the proces.^ of tnins-
mutation into significant English words, Churchill,
it is well known^ wasoriginaByi)* Courceuil; Beau-
champ became, at least in popular pronunciation,
Btcdiavi. The Norman termination vUle was
changed in numberless cases into the English ^/icW,
fild^ot/dl, Uranville or GrenviUe, tntnemuted
into Greenfield, may be given as an instance^ and
many others might be adduced.
In this island (Guernsey) the old names of places
are all French, or, to sviak mote correctly^ Nor-
man. The lower classes of English, who come
over here in search of employment, can make
nothing of these names ; but whenever they ap^
proach in sound to an English word, an adaptation
ts sure to be made. Thus, the parish c^Uled L€
CiUd is always spoken of by them as the Kettle or
Cattle ; the bay of Rocqiuiine is changed into
Rock -end ; UAncrtsite into Long creai^ ; La TVA*-
roiicrie (an old word, signifying a tannery) becomes
The Cherry-tree ; and La Hongut'k'U Ptrrt-^
the Ugly Pier. I could give other inatances, but |
I think I have said quite enough to show that this |
"peculiar treatment of words** is far from un-
common. Edoar Mac<7clloch.
GaorDa«y,
I refer Mr. Fallow to Taylors Wordi a\%d\
Places (the beat work on the subject) for instances
of what he requires. They may be multiplied I
almost to any number. The Focl^ the hM or]
treeltM hilli in Monmouthshire, is now known as I
the Vale. Br- Cbirles Lloyd, some seventy year« I
ago, called a well in Llanwenog, Ciu-diganshirCt [
A qtta Vitm ; it is now known as Ffynon Gc/itt^t I
i, €., the well of the house of sorrow.
I doubt whether there is such a Welsh word usi
Yr Eifl^ and even though there be, I doubt whether I
it can^mean "The Fork/' The Fork is not at allf
a name likely to have been applied to thrtt' hills ;
it is a two-pronged instrument, that with thn
prongs being quite a modern Invention. **Ytl
efel," or ^* Yr efail,^' are derivations that imme-|
d lately occur tp a Welshman, but both these again
can only apply to two or a pair. The radical &r
of these words has a ^, and ^tfdl^ or (y*/«i
(cf. Lat, gtmdht*, Latin m becomes / or v
Welsh), means a twin; gtfail is a pair of tones 3
gefail ijnaxi^ nut^crackers, probably from gafoA^
to lay hold of. There is a Toit-yt'tfail in Glamo^
gan shire. Gafad^ a holding, is a word whicb
found in a great number of names of places*
One other attempt and I give up. Reading tbii
article "Carnarvonshire" in the Penny Cydopftdii
I find there are four hills or summits, \h.^ Craig
Goch, Bwlcb Mawr, Oath Goch, Rivdl Apparentlj
then this last name, which does not look roue
like Webb, is not applied to three summitSj bu
only to one. We have four summits hearing
distinct names. The first means The Red '.
(2) The Great Gap, (3) The Red Carn, or Heap
Now, if two of these hilb are red, I conclude \
may be wrong, nsver kiving been there) that
other two are red also. If sij, I should say ** RiTell^J
is a corruption of the Welsh ** Rhufel," and deriv
from " Rhttf," of a reddish hue.
. J. C. Unnonk.
Perhaps the following maybe acceptable to 1Mn
Fallow, In parts of Canibridgesliire , * 1
which are only used to give access to h-
ture, or otherwise^ are themselves in gtiiaB
C>k8,U.Aoo.l,71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
91
DMtare ; Uiey ftre called ** droves," smd aometimes
"driit-wajis which have l>eeii thought to he the
(Oeromn trifl = pasture* This, I sec, ia not iin
«x&ct pomlJet inasmuch as the two lunguages,
Gcnuttn and English^ do not exist side by aide,
like Mr. Fallow's Welsh and English* but it
may bo tt?,eftil to him for all that.
K a F. S. Wahren. M,A,
"\
Cft]
adc
to
I
»
^An ♦ x.w'i parallel to Mr. Fallo'w*8 instance of
Yt Eifl " is to be found in PeBnell'a Hill, near
Cftbi. Fen is the Celtic for hill ; to thia wilb
added the Teutonic hull PenhuU wa.s corrupted
to Pennell, tuid when the meaning of this word
becMiic innignificitnt, a third hill wiis added.
Other inift4inces are to be found in Farrar's
Origin of LanffUOfftf p. 57, seq.; Max Miiller's
Stimee of L(m{fua^ ii. 53<.v, aeq.; T. Taylor's
JFi/rtU and Floftt^ p. 272, aeq» F* Storiu
M»rtba rough.
I have no doubt that the name of the famed
5;«:iHr.vv FalK near Bettws y Coed, luis arisen from
iij the oiigioAl Welah name. The pro-
f the name Rhuiatir y Wmnol^ ^" the
r of the Swallow/' is by no means obvious ;
Ehaiadr Ewpx&g, ** the Fottming Cataract,"
quite apposite ; and the pronunciation uf the
I two Welsh names is so similar that the snbBtitution
f 009 for the other would he perfectly natural
Sigma.
I hfg to add the inatances of Bhotover Hill^ near
1 {ChdUau Ftfrt), which famous Robin Hood
- necda have **8hot over"; beefeater (buffeti^);
^COtlQtJj-daDce [canin-daiuii) ; and Wormwood
(«»rmit<A), See Latham's Handbook of tAt Eng-
ktk Language^ tifth edition^ pp. 121-124.
C A, FfiDERBR.
BnMtfofd*
Tn Eqcsstrian Statuk in Lricbster Squark
W^ 8. ii 46.) — Cunningham says it was of
George n., and was brought from Canons, the seat
of tile Duke of Chandos, near Edgeware. Of the
lalior ikct there can be no doubt, and thin may
seiTe to est^iblish the identity. Cunningham Bays
that the print of the Square^ 1754, in the edition of
*^ of that year, is mihout the statue. There
be no flppropriatenei«s ia placing George I.
but George II., as Prince of Wales, lived
in 1717, and in 1721 William, Duke of
Brland, his son, was born there. If the
Aiiais represented either of these, it would have
htcn ftfiDropriate. Appropriate or not, however,
il mofli bave been of George I., for in Brewers
Middkmz it is said to be George I., and he is
ilnijiliing Qknon.*; ; and John Timbs, CuHontiu
^ Lmtdoft, p. 454, sayt distinctly it is a metal
mofliU^' of George I., modelled by
UBocikt: Uuke^ and brought from Canons
in 1747, when it was purchased by the inhabitimts
of the Square. It was " finely gilt." Is there any
record of thii* purchase / This all seems so clear
that we can scarcely doubt it. Does a sale cata*
logue of the sale at Canons exist ? If the purchase
can be established, how can we account for the
statue not being erected in the Square till 1754,
seven years later, as inferred by Cunningham above?
Tlie history of this statue appears to be almost na
curious as that of Charles X at Charing Cross.
About the year 1 847, perhaps, Mr. Moxey, archi*
tect of the Hall of Commerce, now Uie Consolidated
Bank in the City, waa treating for the Square, and
had absolutely acquired, or supposed he had
acquired, the right to remove the statue, and he
offered it to a mend of mine, who then lived at
Victoria Grove, Stoke Newington, if he would cart
it away ; he refused it, because he had only a snudl
garden t^ put it into. Some years since, the figure
was unhorsed on a certain Saturday night, and on
the Sunday morning following I saw it lying on the
ground, and entering the broken enclosure, I found it
to be of had J and, nob knowing then anything of ita
sculptor or modeller, C. Buchard, was struck by ita
excellent workmanship. It soon after disappeared,
and the riderless horse followed it perhnps a year
later. I iiiive a print of it in its palmier days, appa-
rently out of the EuToptan Mm^a'dne^ m which tnere
were some excellent papers on London antiquitiei,
written by Moser, under Bome such title as ** Col-
lections and Recollections," which are well worthy,
I should Bay, of being reprinted. The Square ia
full of large trees, and the view is given for the
sake of showing Hogarth's house, which was the
north half of the Bidibniere Hotel. Very interest-
ing was thiB house. Hogarth died in it, Kosciusko
died in it, and the Counter Guiccioli resided there.
The newly-built Tenison School, transplanted from
Castle Stn?et, occupies the site, and is so well de-
signed that I wish some correspoiident of" N. & Q."
would name the architect. Was it Hayter Lewis I
a A. Ward.
Mayfair.
Having, happily, got rid of *' this niece of sculp-
ture," it is certainly desirable that the question of
whom *Mt represented " should be set at rest.
The matter has already been discussed at some
length in the pages of " N. k Q." (3"! S. i. 217 ;
ii. 150, 170, Am'; \^ S. v. 578; vi. 68), but aa
doubts about it «tiU appear to exist, I repeat the
authority I have l^efore cpioted, showing that the
figure represented George I.: —
**IIU** (George Il.'i) "«on Frederick affected tbe
MQifl contradictory fondnees for his gmndfjLiher, aod
erected tbe Btatoe of Georue I. in Leicester Reld», wid
int^ r ' > '-',.. iii^ii come to the erown, to ptiLce a moait-
iDc 1 raorrin St, Paar*.'* — Metnoirt a/ tkt Re^fffk
o/ ' bj Horace WiUpole, vol. iii p. 315, A^
peadix.
92
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[5«»8.n.Avo.l»7l,
Father Krmule's Hax© (5*'^ S. ii. 44,)— This
unfortunate priest was t>ot hanged in the reign of
Charles L, as stated in the book quoted by Mr.
Lknuian. The execution took place August 22,
1679, at Widemarsh (not Hide Marsh}^ m the
outskirts of Hereford^ when ho was fiir iidvaneed
in years ; and 1 have repeatedly seen the Lnnive-
»tone which covers his retiuiinB in the churchyard
of Welsh Newton, on the confines of the counties
of Hereford and Monmouth. His sole offence was
the celebration of rnjiAs in the chapel of Pembridge
Castle, at a short distance from his grave. Not
many yeurs ao;o, a Roman Catholic tenant, who
had occupied the castle as a farmhouse, on
quitting it locked up the chapeU and carried away
the key^ apparently m a kind of sacred truut. I
?*hould much like to know, with your correspon-
dent, where the hand of Father Kemble is now»
Hia dying speech Is in my possession. I have
seen it stated that Walton* has told us how tran-
quiOy he suffered, with a reference to the Compldc
A ngltr^ but I can find no notice of it in that book.
Can any of your readers give me information about
the '* Kemble pi^jc '■ and ** Kemble cup" ? It is a
Badly interesting story* T* W. Webb,
Lunar Rjukbow (5^S. i, 427.)— The phenome-
non described may not be a rainbow, but a hido.
The conditions under which a rainbow is formed
are the same for the lunar as fof the solar kind :
the si>ectator has his back towards the luminary,
nnd the bow is defined against the clouds opposite.
Lunar rainbows appear very rarely ; one Wiis
»eeo in Birmingham by the present writer about
thirty years ago ; it wai^ au arc of white light»
slightly tinged in parts with the prismatic colours,
and was formed against a dark mass of clouds
i^}jHy$itc the moon, which shone in & clear »pace of
blue sk^'. S. FoxALL.
Edgboftton.
I have at different times seen as many as a
dozen lunar rainbowR, suid I have never had the
slightest difficulty in deciding what they were. A
lunar rainbow, when it occurs, is as easily recog-
nized as a solar one ; the principtil difference
being ihb, that the lunar bow is ver}' faint us
compared with the f^olar one, and the colorrs are
not very distinct, Besides, your correspondent
speaks of the phenomenon he T^itnessed as ctu:om-
^(is$ing ihQ moon, an altogether imfmsBible position
fur a rainbow. Rainbows, both solar and lunar,
are invariably directly opposite the lummary by
whose rays they are caused ; and the spectator
necessarily turns his liack t^ the sun or Uioon, as
the case may be, when looking fuH-faco u|K>n the
luinbow. Wljat Mr. HKnui^fo saw wiw, no donbt,
ji lunar halo, a phenomenon altogether distinct
from the rainbow. Joa, BrM£s,
I saw a similar phenomenon from Teddinct^n
on the llih or 12th of April, but the
covered with a ver)^ thin, transparent, lofi
favourable to halo, lunar or solar. In Lon^i^m I
should Imve calleil it a cloudless ^br ; and it
doubtless was an unu-sually fine display of halo.
Having seen a lunar rkinbow in the Vale of thd'
Severn two yeai's ago, I think I - ' wiy,
without pretending to be scientlti n is
essential to its formation ; and thou- u il u<M.3notl
eidiibit the seveml colours of the spectrum, no]
pturtake of the gmnd projiortion.s of the N>lar arch| \
it is, nevertheless, otherwise subject to the Biums
natural laws of refraction and refiecnitn of ilvj? ott
drops of falling rain, and coniietpient u to,
and not encircling of, the planet, n 1 by
Mr. Hebhino. L. H. H. |
What your correspondent saw was not a luita
rainbow, but a paraselene — false moon beside tl
true moon. A lunar rainbow is similar to a eoh
rainbow, only the colours are so faint as to
acsrcely visible* I have seen botk
^^ Margery Mar-Prrlat" (5»^ S. i. 48a.)— laj
addition to the tiuct named by Mr. Hailstoj
I have copies of the two following : —
1. "A Sermon Preached in London hy l
Minleter of Christ. And Perfected hy UStti
ftot forth to the puljliko View of «l), for tbe J
of the Truth, and cleftrtnfr the Innoccncrc ot hi
inffering for it Acta 5, 29. We oaght to tA
rather than men. Printed by Jtargery Mat'
2. "Vox Borcalls or The Northern Discoverfe:
Way of Dialo^e betireen Jumie and Willie "
3. *'Amid*t the Eabyloniftn*. Printed, by Manteiy M«r-
ProUt« in Thwackcttat-Laoe, sit the Signo of the Cn*^
tree Cadgell, without any priviludge, of the Onter^Ui]
the yeare coming oiij 1041. '
These three tracts are evidently frr^m oi
printing press; they are very peculiarly firtnt'.
and the type is rude and remarkrtV>le. 1 ' II
tract {Vojr B&realu) is a scurrilous atta d|
bLshopSi and characterized by all the \ ii)It!Uc*} ai
bittfjrnoas of language of the Mar-Prelate tracts
the sixteenth centurj-, I give the following
dress, *' The Printer to the Reader;' in order
explain to Mr. Hailstone the reason why tl
printer aiisumed the name of ^Margery Alar-Pi
lat :— —
*' TbK PRUITBa TO TOK E&A.I1XJU
Mftrtin Mar PrcUt was a bonny Ijid,
lit* brave adventares iiiJide the Prelate mud ;
Thui^'li hfr le dc:wi Yct he Imth left bcWiid
A <• -ind.
y, *ny haaio.
As wv.a ».^ .... :.-. . .. .^ i. . , loiU to paaM I
Tell not tbe Itii^liops, iind you'a know her Kamtf^
Margery Mar-Prelat, of renowned f^iue.
Bat now, alag, what will tbe Prcbita doel
Her Tippit 'a loose, and Boreas 'gins to blow ;
»• a. II. Aon. 1, 74-1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
93
I
fihv«1 *ro\i\t\ in Fritit ; who1« Volum^i till ihey roarer
* ' fco them strangled in tbcir goarc ;
- blowtt, ehet'i put hu Wind in Print,
Life to strike their latall dint;
much for South, for Eai?t, or West,
. \tiiturc to blow at tb<» tieasi:
ihe Winds should jovne ai one,
nee on tb*t cursed Throne;
t > »ee that huppy diiy,
tied to blow^the BetiBt awny;
h E«nai forth u luBty gale;
:^, and goc hoyit up Sayle :
ve you to the Romij^h C^oaat,
- 1- . ihe Pope will be your Host/' kc.
V,
I
'I
Tile W
Bow (
A ':
1
I doiibt whether any information can now be
grrea na to the printer or publisher* They w^ere
c*iriiiefitl)r privately printed. About ihia period
»iome of i\w fcixuienth-centurj Mar-Pi-elat* Tracts
v*vr*? n>priiite<l by the Paritiin party, in order to
excite hostility agjiiost the biijhopg, One^ "A
DiiUogue wherein is Phiioly Libido open, the ty-
raninculi deaJing of Lord Bishops figaiDst Goers
cbrjdtvn/ &c,, which fint appeared about 1580,
wiw reprioted in 1C40. On a (ireful examination
of the type and printing of thi^, I think there ia
Mft doubt but that it proceeded from the same
the thre€ named above as ** printed by
f Mar-Prekt.'' George W. Napiek.
•y Edge.
C^BAALKS 1. AS A PoET (o^^ S. i. 3ii2, 379, 436).
^Mft, TnoaxBUHY evidently iridorc>e^ the view
that King Charles waa " wectk and vaoiliutin|(/'
Of bb ** weaknetis," ia there the sli^ditest evidence
ffsoopt what IB baBe<l upon ]mrty and sectarian
fmaooQT ? As to his *^ vacillation/' the extremely
difficult circtM'-^^ -v-^ in which he waa placed la
complHe }m r any hesitation he niii^ht
exhibit ; for i.^ ..,..; .i and not vacillation is the
ironi tbftt ought to be applied to Kin;^ Chfiiles's
ct>Qduct^ and neaitation is generally the offspring
of c««ition and wisdom, and, in hia case^ there can
b* CO dniibt that it wajs so. It was very easy for
Or' be very determined, when a cunnin;^,
lit ^ntTons man like him had a strong pack
of I I ics at his back, rwidy to do hia
bill t consisted in putting a king to
dcifctli, "T ill Li^ iiieriug successive Parliaments, —
when thr.^e Parliaments found to their surprise that
tied with due respect, a« they
irles and King James, ac-
.^viin uf the English Constitution,
but were struck down at once and extinguished by
of military usurpation, despotism,
ambition. As for Cromwell's bo-
fortign adminiatratiottT it simply
the iuit that, by his military
xrmtnUnt ihc English people, without
nt, to pay to him
purpo««, and which
j ChArkki and King James could never
ooxutittztioQal m£afu. King Charles
had better objects in view than what any mere
military usurper like Crorawell cotild have : he
(Charles) wiahed to reign constitutionally if he
(x>ssibly could, and "hesitated'^ to do anything
which seemed to run count-cr to the constitution,
even w*hen strongly provoked to do so by the
cunnm!.*. knavery, and uns^cupulousnesB of bi«
0] n wilfully perverting and migapplyiog
c 1 id rules and forms.
In bhurt, King Charles was a man of the
greatest honesty, ability, firmness, and accomplish-
ments, placed in the most trying circumstances,
through which he bore himself with the utmost
dignity. Hewrt Kiloociu
fidiDDurgh.
The Evil Eye (5* S. L 324, 374.)— This snprar-
Btition is also alluded to by Persius, Hat, ii. ;^
** Ecce arui, ant meiuens diruni ni&iertora, cania
Exemit puenimf froatemquo {lique uda lube 11a
Infanii digito tt luetrahhai ante ftalivii
Expiai, unntu oculot tjUt&ere ptrilaJ'
Jabrz.
Athenieam Glab.
Dr. William VAUonAN akd Sib Hkkht
Haj.ford, M.D. (4*'' S. iv. 20.)— A writer signing
himself Tbwars impugns Mr. Grosart's accuracy
in numbering WUliam Vaughan amongst the an-
cestor** of the late Sir Henrys Htdford, the celcbrat-ed
physician. He observes : ** It is notorious that
bir Henry Haiford's father. Dr. Vaughan, was the
son of an auctioneer of humble origin"; and he
refers to the Oetitkvum^s Maga^ine^ May, 1844,
p. 534. Mr. Grosabt is unquestionably right.
It ia not a fact that Sir Henry Halford's father,
Dr. Vaughan, was the son of an auctioneer, or of
any person of humble origin. His birth and
baptism under the name of Jjimeft (Vaughan) took
place at Leominster in 174<). He was the son of
Henry Vaughan, a surgeon in that town, whose
father, Henry Vaughan, had been for many years
vicar of the parish, being himself the son of Dr.
William Vaughan, of whom Anthony Wood gives
some account in hh Athena: Oxonuatef. The
statement in the Gaitleman'i Magazint is possibly
a misprint ; certainly it baa no foundution in fact.
Since the error of the Gcnthiitnn'fi Muijiixinf ia so
confidently endorsed as truth by Tewars, it needa
correction all the moiv.
H. HaLFORD VAtJOHAN.
Upton Ctatle, Pembroke.
Abbrbviatbd Placb-Namks (5*^ S. i. 146.)—
Pampisford (Cambridge), Paunser, A Cambridge
Fellow, riding to do duty at this place, and not
being sure of his road, inquired of nearly every
one he met hii* way to " Pam-pi^-ford." But no-
body had ever heard of such a place in all Ids
life. Accordingly the bewildered Fellow rode for
many miles till he came \Hv\ft % e^tVaaac^ V^iCsaM^
There, fortune beVii^ gwdom \» \;wss\yt v<^v vwb
94
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[S'^aiLAuQ. 1,71.
theH
"4
usual query to an individual of superior intelli-
?mce, who straiebtway answered — ** Oh, you mean
aunxcr; why this is Paunser!" and "Paunser"
sure enough it was. C, F. S. Wahrkn, M,A.
EllersUe/ EerhQI, Hoatingf.
GholmonJely, Clmmly; Cliolmondeatone, Cliumstoo;
Davedl^mm, Duneliam ; Ringwa>% Run^ (g «<*f 0 ; Wen*
Torhum, Warchain; WildbottTclouRh, Wilbercluf ; M&c-
cktfieldj Muifield (by some old peordo. and need to be so
spelt), ichflahire). Wavertree, Wartry (Lancaaliire)*
ATcbury, Abury (Wilta). Churchdown, Chosen (Glou-
CMterflhirc).
RoBKRT Holland.
Averham^ Alrham j Southwell, Suthell ; Cortlingstock,
Cofltock (Notta). BcWoir, Be«v«jr ; Croxton, Croxcn :
Quoradon, Quom (Leioesterflbire). PelmcrBJiam, Fen-
ah»m ; Pjireiihain^ Pacion ( Bed ford aM re}. Bicester,
Bbtcr (O^con.J. Roth well, Row ell (Nortbainptonshire)*
Uttoxetcr. Utclieter ^StaffonWiirc) ; Hawarden, Harden
(FOntahire) ; Launceflton, Laanceton {Cornwall)*
F. a S, WOOLLKY.
8. Collingharo, Newark,
Wedncsfield, Wcdgefield; St. Tbomas, Sentimus (Staf-
foFdflbirc|. Ilopwaa^ Uoppua; Alrewas^ Arlu« ; Build-
was, BuilduB (SbropBhire). Temple BnUall. Bussle
Temvl^ (Warwiokahire). AlfreBton, Arfaton (Sum^x).
Leckbaropton, Lackington (Gloucestershire), Ditvetitry,
Daintry (Nortbamptonshirt'). Sltttigbani, SUffliam (Sus-
sex).
AY. J, Brrkhard Smith,
Temple.
Rocester, Roeatcr (Staffordsbire). Tideswell, Tidaa
(DorbyBbire). Wolitunton, Ussiton (StaffordBbire). Wy-
bunbury^ Wimbry ^CbeiMre),
a w. N.
Alderley Edge.
I send the following from our district (Craven) :
Appletreewick^ Aptrkk ^BomoldBwick, Barlick ; Grass-
ingtou, Giriton ; ilalham, Maum.
Stephen Jackson.
Milton's **L'ALLEaRQ" (5"» S. i. 406,)— I
think there can be no doubt sl& to Milton*a mean-
ing in the Hne^ —
" And every sbepherd tells his tale,'*
though Mr. Ainoer is loth to give up the poetical
idea of the lovers for the more prosaic one of
eounting tht she^p. It should be borne in mind,
tirsfc, that the verb "to tell^' was ordinarily used
in Milton's time, instead of the more modem word,
" to count.'' Thus in the Patdms— " Thou tdhd
my flittings'^; " He kUdh the numbex of the stars/'
&c. To this day a shepherd would say of his
»heep, " They was all right last night when I told
'giu/' Such a man would have no doubt as to the
meaning of the line in question. But Udte the
context, aa Mr. Ainger proposes, Milton is
describing an English landscape, such as, with
little excc'ption, we may see now, with the usual
incidents. Now, after picturing the ploughman,
the milkmaid, and the mower, engaged in their
jteremlrml occupations, it is as diflifult to imagine
the poet suddenly jumping, in the case of
shepherd^ to an i4mL one, as it is to suppose that*^
every such person should be making love when '
ought to be tending his shrep. Milton was
well luxjuainted with England (not Arcadia)
make such a nusUtke, and properly reservoe Uie
pastime for the rustic holidnv that follows.
T. L Beknett.
Abcheu Family (5** S. IL 2L)— -Thomas I>
Archer, parson of Elmsett (co. Stiff.), in 4th of
Edward III., held one-third part of the lordahip
of the mant>r of Bricett Magna (co. Suff.), Bf
imd Richard his brother, in 1330, presented to the
church of Ridleswortb (co, Norf.), and held that
manor, which they seem to have inherited in right
of the heiress of the house of Bathonia, or Hathun*
The east window of the south chaj>el of the
church of Thaxted (co. Essex) contained the anna
of the Archer family \ ermine, a cross, sable.
C. GOLDING.
Paddington.
Water-marks (5*'" S. i. 88.) — By consultiog^
Sotheby's Frinnpia Tfpoffraphica, Mr. Js
may find information a*? to the water- marka
early paper-makers, Gaston db Bkrneval,
*^ Little monitor from TttKE,** &c. (5**» S. iL\
47.)^ — The lines here quoted — ^not qu;^ t
are a portion of a "posy" or inKi i
amongst others, was frecjuently prin(«M >-
years ago on the '* watch papers," which were at J
that period uaualiy inserted between the inner and
outer cases of watches. The whole runs as foliowi:-
*' Little monitor impart
Some inatniction to tbc beart.
Shew the buiy aod tbe gay
Time la baf tiag swift away ;
Pleasure cannot long ondnre.
Life 'a uncertain, death ia eure.
Hftpny they who wisely learn
Truth from error to diacem ;
Truth immortal aa the aod.
Firm enduring as the pole/'
I do not know who is the author of the lineB.
J. A. PtcTour*
Sandy knowe^ WaTertrec.
An eld eriy lady, although on this side fou
has pleasure in putting into my hands, from thil
oiemoriids of her chUdbood, the answer to Z. Z.*sJ
elder lady- friend's asking : —
"To MY Watch.
Little monitor ! by thee
Let me learn what 1 abould be :
Learn thi« round of Life to fill,
Useful nnd pr^greadfe stUi.
When I wind Thee up at nighty
Mark each fault and aet Thee right ;
Let me search my bosom too„
And my daily tboaghta review ;
Mark each movement of my mind ;
Nor be eai»y when 1 find
i
mt^
«»8. lUAoo. 1,'74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
H Latent ern^rfl riae to Tiew,
^ Till all be regulix and true/'
I remember it nniong children's current poetry
eaiiy in the centiuy, but not the name of the
writer, which, I think, went with it. Erem,
fA, C, tends the above rendering from ** The 0<rVt
Wmk'D^y Bookf hj Dorothy White, " but trith the two
l(>llowiiig lines interpolated after the fourth :—
H *' Thou canst useful hints impiirt
H^ How to reguhkte the heart. ']
H[^ A»i> woiTDER," Ac (5«» 8. il 470— This luae
^FsfinxM run —
■ •* And wonder with a fooU»b face of praise."
H II ts in the well-known satire on Addlaon by
■ Ptope. W. W.
•'Tbe Savage** (oti^ 8. i, 4SD.)— The author
iVMi John Robinson, a native of the eastern part
of Tennessee. He was born in 17^2. In early
life he became involved in a fight, originating in
political tiifferencen, and killed a man^ which
cftttsed him to leave the State and remain away
for several years. It is many years since I read
tlleie eesajs, bitt my impression is that they dis-
pliy much originality and vigoar of mind, but
arte tinctured with sceptical opinions, not incon-
tifltent with the character of an Americin Indian,
imiixied by the writer. He died in Tennessee
thoat the year 1833, in a house in the woods,
Voilt for him by the students of Tusciilimi College,
end U buried at Greene ville, Tenn., the residence
of ex* President Andrew Johnson. A second edi-
iioD of Tht Sav4ig€ was published at KnorviUe,
TeniL, in the year 1835. Unsda.
rhiladelphia.
I
'*Lk pRocfes DEs Trois Rois" (5*^ S. i. 468.)—
Tbit curious French tract inquired after is usually
^" fibttted to Bontfonidor {vide Barbier) ; but in
David^s careful hibliogmphy, appended to an
edition of Linguet's Mrmoires sur la Ba^Hlh^
which appeared in the BiblioUiique Natioiiah in
1866, the work is attributed to that author.
William E. A. Ajcos.
Tins Music to '* Macbeth " (5"^ S. i, 486.)—
I write not to disprove wliat Mr. C. Wylie has
wKtten, ^jetause if the music to Macbtih was first
n»'rfoMw»^d in 1672, that fivct puts Richard Lev^ridge
virt, as be is naid to have been born in
U 1 finii this in The Imperial XHcti^marti
€»/ ' raphy (Mackenzie, London), su\
f*f ' . —
* in Eowe'e edition of Shahpcarft the masic of Mae*
iiCi it mid to have been »ei by Lereridge. Thia ia the
tJiafming witcb- music which has so long passed current
a<i Uw wipotttion uf Matthew Lock.'*
Aed« nth rcct " Lock" :—
•Th« *rudo and wild excellence' of his music to
JftfeMA U a cooftant theme of admtratton bv mtuieal
•ad bittonaiit. Bat unfortunatetj Look'i music
ie lo§t. That so popularly known, and for whieh he ^ta
credit, is the compofiiiion of Kichard Leveridge^ thirty
yewra later."
Falm^im qiti 'mtruit^ fmrai. Dates, like facts,
are stubborn things, and biographers should heed
both. It may be right to add that the above
biographies are both written by ** E. F. R."
Aahford.
The Sfbstittttion of "l" axd **w" for
*' R " (5*»» S. i. 481.)— The substitution of w for r
is usualiy owing to organic defect or inveterate bad
habit. But it i^ seldom a distinct i^ that is
uttered. An indescribable soft guttural, which
no combination of letters (unless, perhaps, ^^»jI?)
could represent, is heard in place of r. Many
schoolboys may recall the sentence fabricated
in ridicule of this failing : — ** Jnchuird hit
H'obetrt," &c. A gentleman who idolized Lord
Byron's poetry had displayed his devotion by
writing some verses addressed to him, and some
wags of my acquaintance amused themselves by
getting him to recite his venses, which began —
*' Impeiriiil mileie of the trealmt of wime."
S. T. P.
" Brttisfi and Contdtental Titles of
Honour '' (5*^ S. ii. 23.) — It is by no means ** a
vulgar error to suppose that a commoner may not
be noble." The eldest son of an earl (to take an
extreme case) is certainly not noble, by the
common law of Engknd, in the lifetime of his
father ; for, if he commit felony, he will not be
tried by the House of Lords, or the Court of the
Lord High Steward, but by a juiy. Why \ Be-
cause be is not "the peer" of a Lord of Parlia-
ment. On the other liand, he m the peer of any
common jurj'-man ; else is Magna Chart a broken.
This being so, how can he be said to be *' noble " i
** The commoners, though some are greatly superior
to others, yet all are, in kw, peers, in rt$p^t of
their imnt of nobUityS—2 Co. Imt,^ 29.
Middle Templar.
Bradford*
The Blessed Thistle (5*»» S. iL 48.)— Tlie
legend that the white streaks on the leaf of the
Carduus b^aitu came from the milk of the Blessed
Virgin is common in many parts of England.
Miss Yonge's Herb of the Field (Mozley) will
give information on this and other plants named
after Our Lady and the saints.
E. L. Blenkinsopp.
^'A Vallomrbosian Nuk" (5^»» S. iL 34. W- What
does the author of iSacred oitd Ligenmnj Art
mean by this tenn I I am well acquainted with
Vallombroaa, and I never heard of any nunfi either
there or near it. The convent (now dissolved) was
q/ccupied by monks, Yallombrosa lias tiow ^ v^t^
comfortable hoteL ^ atair ^^jry.t \>vxw&.
96
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[^ S, TL AcG, 1, •I?.
The Beig " Temi-le," of London (S^"* S. iL 28),
208 tons, built at IpBwich in 1815, was owned
by John Bourke Ricketts, of LejukuliaU Street,
London, and Charles Nichoks Pallraor, Norblton
House, KingBton-upon-Thames. The following
notice appears in '* Lloyd's Lbt " of 30th June^
1829 :—
" The 'Temple/ Midwinter, from Jamaica to London,
was wrecked on the night of the 30th Apnl, off the oast
enid of Caymftnes. Cnw and pari of the cargo tavetL"
EtESAAD HoMB GOLfiMAK.
Brecknock Rood.
"When York to Hj£Aven** {5^ S. ii 47,)—
The lines qnotcJ hy T, W. W. S. Wong to the
liteniture, not of the seventeenth, but of the
eighteenth century. They were written by the
Duke of Wharton, Foss (Judges of England^
p. 245) quotes the line about Tracy differently
from T. aV, W, S., thus —
" When Trncy'fl gencroua soul shall sarell with pride.**
I have not seen a copy of Whiirton^a poems,
therefore I cannot any whid!i is the more correct
version.
All the persons named in the lines were judj^es,
except Hungerford. Parker, of course, was Lord
Mftcele afield, the well-known Chancellor. Pratt^
King, and Eyre, were the Chief Justices of the
three Courts. Biogniphiea of aU may be found in
Fosr's Jndge^^ of Entjlnnd.
John HuQ^erford was a lending banister, and
counsel to the Ef^t India Company. He repre-
sented Scwborough as a Tory, from April, 1692,
to Msirch, 1605, when he was expelled tlie house ;
again from 1702 to 1705 ; and finally from Novem-
ber, 1707, until his de^th (June 8, 1729),
ALrRED B. BeaveNj I^LA.
Pratoo.
Lord Colltkowood (5'^ S ii. 48.)— He was of
Northumberland family, and hia great-great-gnuid-
father, Ralph CoUingwood, married the niece of
Anthony^ Knrl of Kent, seventh in descent from
Joan Pliintjij^enet, the Fair Maid of Kent, who
waj* wife of the Black Priuce, He went to scliool,
at Newcastle, with Lord Stowell and Earl Eldon,
Hia brother was Capt. Wilfred CoUingwood, of
the ** Rattler.'*^ He married Miss Saruli Blackett,
daughter of Q. C. Blackett, of Newcastle, and had
two daughters, Sarah and Mary Patience. In
8iU<itioiia from ike Public and Private Corrc-
r^ndenc^ of Vim^ Admiral Lord CoUingwood^
Ridgway, Piccadilly, 182!), a great u umber of
the lettets are nddre^saed to his* father-in-law.
Mary Patience married Anthony Denny, Esq.,
Rnd died in 1822 ; and Sarah married G. L.
Newnh&m CoUingwood, Esq., F.R.S», who pub-
Hfihed the selection abore niuned*
C. A, Wahd.
Mayfalr.
A brother of Lard (>llingwood lived at Churton, i
near North Shields ; his son now Uvea at Lilburn j
Tower. One daughter married the Rer. Chri?--
topher Reid, Vicar of Tynemouth ; the other, I
John Frederick CoUingwood^ Esq., of G]antoti|
Pyke, aU in Northumberland.
E. L. Blestkiktbofp.
Shirlet Family (5"» S. i. 248, 294, 477 jj
ii. 76.) — Lady Anne Shirley, fourth danghter or
Robert^ first Earl FeiTers, by hh Countess, SelioA
Finch, was born at Staunton Howard May 24,1
1708. and married May 15, 1721)» Sir Robert I
Fumese, of Waldershare, in Kent, Baronet. Sb«'
died Febmary 25, 177D, ami wa^j buried ui
GrosTenor Chapel, South Andley Street, London.
Ev. Ph. Shirlet.
The name of the Baronet ivho married Anne, ,
daughter of the first Earl Ferrers, wan Sir Robert-j
Furnese. Burke (who, by the way, is focilc pri'n-»|
ctps amongst incorrect compilers) makes hira M PrJ
for Brt\mber in 1698, confounding him with hisl
father, Sir Henry. Sir Robert entered Parliamentj
iis M.P. for Truro in December, 1708, sat fof^
Romney from 1710 to 1727, and for the countj^
of Kent from 1727 until his death in 1733.
Alfred B. Beaven, M.A.
LoNi>ON Companies, or Guilds (5** S. iL 48lJ
— A complete li^t, with the date of Incorporatioa
the situation of the hall, where any exists, and th
amount of Uverj^ fine, will be fimnd in Noorthouck^
History of London^ 4to., 1773, p. 887.
Virion Niohtoit.
TiNTRftN Abbkt (5*^ S. ii. 28, 75.)— Mb- Mac
kenzie Walcott is wrong in his statement ("
there is no local handbook to Tintern Abbey*
have myself written one, contjwning many fi*shl|
gathered details, including, for the firat
accurate dates of the erection of the Abb-
the ruins of which constitute the chief rtnun
the monastery. The title of the work is
Abbey and its Founders. It was reviewed
Athtm<mim of August 6, 1670, and ha« reached a
second edition. Johx Tavloe.
BHstol Moseum and Library.
Tjie Emperor Alexander IL (5**^ S. I 4fT4 \
il 36, 55, 72.)^'nie argument adducod by A- '"
that the EussiaQ claims to be the suooeesa
of the Cji&sars as connected by marriage with
Byzantine Emperorfl, is certainly in favour of lh«
theory, but I think the arguments in mj
letter apply to it.
I ilo not wish to deny the assertion mnd^
B, Y. H., that the form Czar has been in oso 1
fifty years, as age is no excuse for tm error, j
the PoUsh BpeUing would naturaUy be the
to reach Europe, and Russians wottM be os fooH
9* & IL Acq. 1, 7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
97
to feel inmlled by such an error, as EngUshinen
wmM be it Ihey took offence at the " Lord Cllad-
fltolM^* and ** Sir Disraeli" of aomo igtiomnt French
atMrgpapen. The title of the heir-apparent is
Mfmdy derived from that of the Tsar, and would
hwra been in ose as long as the hitter, and it is
hoUh wriiteti and pronounced Tsftrtvitch^ und not
l^MMieTYtch or Cesan^v'it-eh. I am pleased to iind
Ifctt B. Y. H. su^^reea with me in deriving it from a
nmk'Arjiin root^ but I CJinnnt accept his theory,
Khii^ar beinn;^ I believe, not a titles but the naoie
of a nirt\ wlia were almost o€3rt^unly not Tatars,
T y of foreignerB to hear or pronotinoe
tbtf ihing at Ijia end of many Russi&n
words u «b tiominon source of ainiiBement among
Busiians, and B. Y. H seems to be no exception
to the rule ; but can he perceive no dilierence
(<|UoUng his own exiuuple) between nn and unc f
I W3Mi eertainlj not thinking of the lines which he
quot4^, and am weU aware that Tsaria is in the
I Czarieh would represent no form
im acfjuainted).
* translatioDf^of Russian official d»cu-
loriously inaccuniU'. I have a large
iij^ki,"
^ ..,_-..,..,..-. .... ^, .,.,.. ^ plunil
not end in kia^ but in klUi).
V. H,'fl last sentence, I ain at a los!i
(o conainie it. If he thinks that '' veliela" (why
tbi fipmlnin^ I) can govern the nominative "^ tche*
}&mkf*^ be b mnch ntbtaken : nor is the '' t '' at
tfaie end of the verb ^' priiti *' abaolutely fanltlees.
I Imow TciT well that Runflian has no article and
tJiai Sugliui hoAf but I cannot see the bearing of
thnee fectd on this question. At all events, sen-
tences in very doubtful Enssian are not calculated
•o ctnsagthcm the wiit^-^s authority on difficult
fslllte In one of the harda^t lan^^niageft of Europe.
ASHTOK W, DlLKK.
The B.vltimorb and **Old Mortalitt'*
Patbrsows (4"* 8. vi, vii. p<Ufim,)—ln " K. & Q."
roruo v« ir^ aL'o. I i^ve some curious infomiatton
ily of *'01d MortiJity/^ inves-
f the statement, which had been
. that M.idanie Jt^rome Bonaparte,
svr\^ drerr^nded from John, the eldest
■ '■" I showed, by a letter
!^. vii, 218), a friend of
I .elieved her ancestora
, and that they were
h till? Scottish PaterB(»fi!<,
lied (1874), LHUrg //> JHs
" ' ntouj D.JJ,^ with a
MJer Anderson, WeM
To W m Baltimore, was conrlcoosly pennitted lo
examine the will of Madame Jert'ime's father, I
quote the following pcuoogo from the memoir,
whioli sets the question forever at rest : —
*'The Rev. Nathaniel Pat^rwn, a son of Dr Pateivon,
ATid minister in Martin Town, Oan&dai visHed BaUimore
last autainn, found Mr. Pennington, the Uwjisr who
drew out the will of Miwlame Buonaparte's father, and
wftA peimitted to exftmino it for himself. From Ihie
doc anient, which is prefaced hy & iliurt autobiography
of the testntor, it atmears that Matiiinie Botmpurte'^
f&ther'e name was William ; that he was a natiro of
Tanot, County Donegal, Ireland, and brought up in ctnk'
nextoii with ti»e Episcopal Choreh. After aettltiitr in
Baltimore', he h&d foren sone and one dauiehter, whoiu
he mention* nmler the name of Betsy, and us the wife of
Jcrcjune Botmpartc?, There Beoma no reason to doubt the
statement made in the will, efpecially ia view of the
scanty evidence for the truth of the ttory oo long and
io widely circulated."
C. T. Bjmaqz.
Interted CoMitAS (.*)**» S. tp<usim; ii. 37» 56.)
Sotting aside former examples, 1 atill feel no doubt
that in all good modem usage inverted commaa
iviptjt a quoUtion at ]east ; and this is the only
modification suggested by Jadez's remarks. Tbo
quotation he gives from the Times seems to me
quite t^ iliuBtmte this. The commas no doubt
import a sneer more or less. But they also, I have
no doubt^ taking this example, mean this : " The
education may V>eeomo vhat we have so o/t4m ietn
dMicrihtd at lest accompiuM, but not therefore,**
&c» A rtfermuia ib intenied, and so, I believe, it
always ie. Lttteltok.
"Like" as a Covjuvcrtov (6* S. L 67, 116,
157, 176, 237, 498.)— Here is a clear i;istance from
the Shakspeare part of Hennj VIIL The Duke
of Norfolk says to the Duke of Buckingham,^ —
*' Not a man In England
Can advise me like you/' —
that is, ** like you can advise me.** It ia true that
here too is the shrinking from setting the verb
after tike^ which I noticed l»efore ; but that /tl'€ is
here a conjunction, and not a preposition, b nn*
deniable. F. J. FdRNtVALL,
P.S. — As the great authority with whom I am
at iflsue on the point will not iwlmit the above
instance,— he says you is in the ' .^com-
pare **like him." I add an inconti : ince of
the conjunctival use of Hke, which .^^cuimut ?j excel-
lent ShaJcspere- Lexicon referred me to :—
"Andkm^ ' kingdom i^ without a head —
l,iit gi I z$. left without a roaf.
Soon fhl your noble self. * . .
We thua »ui>[uit lUiio,— our aovcreigu.*'
PericUa, I. iii* M,
(Not S^ ' re* port : probably WilkJna'a.)
Thid coTifi 1 i lanation of the conjunctivaf
use of the adv( m nrr, from ^^ a^^^-:.. - rfthe i#
tiuit followed it. and its cor of the
function of a*; just as in *.*. — ,....,, ihe odv
Hht lakes the prepottUoutiX loTca. c»l to* ^ 's^
98
NOTES AKD QUERIES-
[5" S. U. At;a. 1, 74.
" N. ife Q/' men again for other early instances of
conjunction like^ witli tlie verb ejcpresst,
F, J, F.
Words AND Phiubes Prevale:kt in Ulster
(B^ S» i. 245^ 374.)— I hATe been accuatomed to
hear Ulster people use the word " Bcddy ^ from
my earliest recofiectbns, and never with but one
meaning, and that none of those given by your
correspondentis, or the authorities whom they
quote. The sense in which I Imve heard it usod
lA somewhat akin to muaj^ yet not in the sense of
boldness or forwardness, but ralher negntively or
defensively ; thus, a menial scn-ant who would
reject food served up a second time, on the ground
that it was not good enough for him^ would be
considered very " beddy."
Gigit (I am not certain of the orthography) is
another Ulster word, which signifies elated with
the novelty of anything. It may be a corruption
of gigUt or giglot^ giddy, light, inconstant.
Gaston de Beritbval,
Philadtilphifl*
"Crack" (5^^ S. i. 124, 175, a32.)-It is
evident, us Mr. Wedgwood has pointed out,
that I was i^Tong in suggesting, without qualifica-
tion, that the word '* wag " was an abbreviation of
** wagtidl." 1 have since met with another pas*
flage oonfirming Mr. Wedgwood's derivation of
it firom " waghalter " ♦ :—
*' Ohp thoa onftj wMitrijtg,
And could'flt thou thii§ demde me i "
Heywood'fi '' EDgli^li TnTeUer/' in
Diike's Old Hays, vi. 206.
I cannot, however, help thinking that the word
^' wag^ is sometimes an abbreviation of ^^ wagtail.'^
In a coU«ctioiL of sketches of Dutch life and
manners, entitled the Camera Obsaira, by Hilde-
brand (Nicolaua Beets), fifth edition, pp, 252-261,
I find a gentlemaji, by name Heer Wiigestert
(Mr, Wagtail), invited to a dinner-party, to enter-
tain the company with very indifferent jests and
jokes; in fact, he exactly correajxindH to the
Mr. Wagg of Peiidtmtit. Now 1 cannot think
* Dor anoflctort were singuliu'ly fond of tfaeta oom-
pliment&ry aUurions to the gallowi. Thus we bare
** wa^balter," " wagBtring/' "cruckrope/' •* crwckhemp/'
^g&lfowfl-birdj" wLicli ln«t we §tili ratajn. Betitlen tlie<»ef
in Fletcher alone I find *' rope runner "—
*' Stand farther, friend ; I do not like your rope-runnera.*'
Coxcombf ii. 9.
AIbo "elipstring " and " haltcrstck/' in Kin^ and no
Kinft. il %
*' nope^runner," I concsire, menns " one who has run
away from tlie rope "; " slipstring " will have nearly the
■atne meaning; "hattenack" is not 6o clear, but' pro-
tmlily the idea ii, that ai a tack hat a halter rtiund its
neck» to the peraon addresKd deserroa to, aod will in
duo time hare otie round his.
Besides these there are the Sbakepearian wordj "rope-
trie ki *' and *' ropery/' and doubtl«ai many others may
\m found in the writingi of that era^
that this coincidence is merely occidentoL As the I
Dutch connect the idea of jesting and joking with (
the word " wagtail,*' our ancestors may have done j
the same. It seems to me quite possible that the j
word ** wag " may sometimes have been an abbre^l
Tiation of the word " waghalter," or ** wagatring,"]
and sometimes of ^* wagtail''; and that in a short I
time people nsed the word without havitig any I
clear idea in their minds whether they meant*
"rogue" or **je»ber," the two meanings ranningj
eiisily into each other.
With respect to the word " crack," I ^^^ '^^th I
pleasure that it is not quite obsolete in its Sliak- >
speurian sense : the other day I heard a bdy say— J
" There was only a crack of a boy in the sbop.*^
F, J, V.
P.S.— I find that in my former note on thcj
word " wag " I have followed Professor Latham in J
giving " pert person,** whereas above I liave giretlJ
"^^ jester '' as its meaning, the latter being that Ia]
which it is commonly used at the present day*|
The two meanings are, however, as ia obvious
closely akin.
LKOLrxK : Christabel (5**» S. L 405, 515*]
The latter name would seem to be the sun<^
(YisUibal^ the Spanish form of Christopher*
M, S. Charkocic
Gray's Inn.
"Ibhar'* {&*^ S. i. 469 ; ii. 13.)— J. H. styi
that Ibhar " is Gaelic, and means an adder," How
comes it that no such word occurs in Armatmng's
copious Gadic XHciiofiargf and that it does not
resemble any of the Gaelic names for an adder, of
other serpent, given in that work I S* T* P.
Tavkbn Inscriptions (o^ S* i. 165, 274)— The
following inscription stood for many years over
the door of a tavern, occupying a portion of the
present site of the Wistar Museum of Anatomy in
this city : —
" I, Michael McI>ermotfc* lirea herCf
Aod eella good Porter, Ale, and Beer:
I makea my sign a little wider.
To let you know I sell good Cider,"
In quoting the foregoing, I have thought it b«t
to preserve the syntax of the poet just as ho in-
dited it. Gastok de Berskval.
Phihidelphia.
Rancke Riders (5*^ S. L 203, 271, 411* . ti
38.)— In Memoirs of Vidacq^ written by himwrU,
translated from the French, 4 vols., London, Lsill),
vol iv. p. 210, will bo found a description of a
somewhat similar class of swindlers to thoHo d.
scribed by Mr. Waltkb TnoRNBuar, ^li i
flourished during the French revolution, liini
reaped a golden harvest from French innkeepers^
Harrt Bltth
Barnstaple.
i&
d^B
P'KU. ADC. 1,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
IHUcrnattrotur*
NOTES ON BOOKS, lea
THB COUNTESS OF NITHSDJLLS.
In tbe current nambar of ih^QtutrUrlflU^niw^ —
a most attractive number for the importance and
yariety of it« ftrticlee, and for the ability with
which they are written, — the old and ever interest-
ing story of the escape of the Jacobite (and
capit4itly*eonvicted) Ean of Nith^dale once more
challenges and wins attention and sympiithy.
Under the title of The Book of Car later ocJc^ Lord
Hemes, the bead of the Maxwell family, has
sanctioned the printing of 150 copies of his col-
lection of family papera. Tbeie form two quarto
Tolumcs, which are not for sale* In this collection
axe to be found the C *ounte88*8 narrative of how
ahe dfectetl her husband's escape from the Tower
CQ the eve of the day on whicn he was to suffer
deftth OQ the Hcaltbld/
It has never» perhaps, been noticed thiit the
means employed by this noble daughter of the
Herbert* (she was the younjje«t daughter of the
Marquis of PowLs) may be said to have been more
"^ (ly t*' " ' I ;i to succeed ; and how succesH
irne^ pt is yet inexpliciible.
Lord ' was doomed to die on Wednes-
day, ih 'uaiy, 1716, On the night pre-
vionty l-...f ^^..,^dale took two women with her
into the Tower, in order that her lonl might pojis
out aa one of those women. Their names were
Mrs. Morcan and Mrs. MiE's. Mrs. Morgan, tall
and thin. Tike Lord Nithisdale^ was the ^t intro-
dnced, aa a viaitor, into the EarFs room^ where,
having depoiited a riding-hood which she wore
under another of her own, Lady Nithsdale re-con-
dntcted her to the stairs (on which, from the
prisoner's door to the foot of the stairs, were
Mvend sentinels), and there bade her farewell
Thie first lady had thus gone in, and had thus de-
Next* Mrs. Mills waa ushered into the room.
AiriTed there, she and Lady Nithsdale proceeded
to diagiiise the Earl, so aa to make him as like
Mrm, Millfi 03 possible. This done, Mra, MiDs put
on the riding- hood, which had been left behind
for th« purpose by Mrs. Morgan, and withdrew,
pMiing through the guards, as well as various
peo]]le about the landing and staiiB, in the cha-
nflUsT and similitude of Mis. Morgan, who had
hnsi Been to come from my lord's chamber some
tkic before ! Two women had gone into that
diamb«r, and two had left. Ko one remained save
thm Eoil and Countesa, Kotwithstanding this
fiicl, in a few minutes, the Earl issued, dressed
fUtbJIy in Mn. Mills's clothing, and through
SQttdi, aerrmnta, and warders, sacceasfully wended
Km «»y tnKo the street, and got dear off. Thus
iff, tw« wocnen^ with tne Count^sa, had be«n in-
tipdoord to the EarV^ room, and apparently thru
had departed ! Subseciuently, Lady Kithedal^
herself paaaed out unquestioned, pretending that
her husband was still in the now empty chamber*
That this little drama could have been played
out successfully without collusion, which must
have been well paid for, seems impossible. Lady
Nithsdale remains as heroic as ever, for her risk
and peril were undoubtedly great ; but if tdl i\m
guardians of the Tower were not confederatei,
they were the greatest simpletons that ever wor«
a uniform, or acted as gaolers. George I., who
was half enraged and half amused at the incident,
insisted, nevertheless, that he was betrayed, and
that the escape could not have been effected but
by means of a guilty confedemcy*
The heroism on this occasion saved no hero,
though the lady strove hard to the last to believe
that nhe had a hero for her husband. After Lord
NitliadiLlo bad reached the Continent, disguised as
a servant of the household of the Venetian Am-
bassador, *^Lady Nithsdale," says the Quarterly^
" for whom no search was made, remained for the
time in London.'^ The truth is that she baffied
all search, and lived undiscovered in a house in —
then not unfashionable — Drury Itfrne. She seoma
to have encouraged a report that she re&Uy had no
hand in the ejicipe, in hopes that she might live at
liberty. She wisely lay hid the while, but search
wofi made after hex. As it wa3 unsuccessful, the
Botioitor-Oeneral xiiade it known that, as Lady
Nithsdale had the decency, as he called it, not to
appear in public, the Government would give her
no further trouble, but that if she showed herself
outside her hiding- pkce she would certainly be
arrested. After a farewell visit to the family ee*
tat^ in Scotland, she passed through London and
subsequently landed on the coast of Flandeirsi,
where she was detained some time by a nuBc^riage
and dangerous illnesa.
There was never a more selish man than the
husband for whom Lady Nithsdale had made so
many sacrifices. When they again came together
at Lille, he vexed her bouI liy hia extmyaganoe,
and by living over their little income. He nccuaed
her of grudging him ! ** I am sure,*' she writes to
her sister. ** I would not grudge my heart's blood,
if it would do him any service." While Lord
Nithsdale was in Italy, his wife, in Fiance, en-
dured the sharpest poverty, but felt no cross, save
that of having to bve apiui from him. Neither
could have existed but for the charity of Lord and
Lady Traquair. The ktter waa Ladv Nithsdale »
sister. Instead of acknowledging the kind aid
extended by Lord Traquair, Lord Nithsdale pro>
tested that he was the lender of money to Lord
Traqoair ! What the former Lord got he spent
on his own pleasures. ^'He has never been the
man," is the mehmoboly, ultimate remark of the
heroic wife who had onoe thought hinv ti. \afiws,
"that had offeied me i^ lMi\flXk%^^^<i^^^*^
100
NOTES AND QUKRIEa
[e»»aiLAml,74.
h© hm taken up ; find, aa yet, all h §pent.'* He
died at Rome in 1744 ; lady Nithsdalc at the
«ome place in 174J). Out of an iinnnity paid to
her by her son (in pos«e?^sion of tbi» fa i ' ■
she dischjirged all ht»r lord's debts, to
tation. lliis should have been dout^ f?\ im M.,i.
It was the litst of the noble acts of a noble life ;
and the HpJiee, it is hoped, ia not w.i-«*f -' wt.;, |. jr
devotwl to the Note which adds notm ' t-o
the details of the story of the Count^^as vi _ .. side.
Hkbkt S. Kma k Cow have added a ohiLrming tolume
tD Fairy Lore in ***S/arfjniiV J'cwry Tales^ C'otUctcd and
Truttiiattd /r^n the IttusiaJK Paiith^ Strriun, and
JBo^^eviitin, by John T. Nftakc, of th« British Miueum/'
In oontraKt with this atti-iictiTc book of sturtltng fancy
wft foiiiarkabtc atory (from the same firm) of domeatic
life, called Softa Time (n Irdawd^ a Itecotltcti'on. Thiii
Ib a clererly told tioJe of Irish lite, free from ftU exa^e^
ration.
To Messrs. MACMiLt.AK k Co. we owe a handsome and
interesting volume, entitled, '" The Balladt and^ongn of
Scotland, III View of their Influence on the Character
of the People/* By J. CUrk Murray, LL.a Br. Mur-
ray ftnda much that is new to be eaid on an old but arct
pleasant iubject.
Mn. Tkqq hns added to his reprint! two works that
have charmed the grand-fiarenta of the preeextt geaorar-
tlon, and that will obarni, not only this^ but Kucoeaaive
fenerations, namely, Barrow *9 Mutrn^ of tAc B<m^y, as
ull of interest as Rulntt^on Cruaett and the fni3M»fn
Ntstorp of a Ship, from hrr CradU t& her Ormt, Tills
bistory hn^ a neecnary supptement at to ^team and
atiamehips^ tbinga flcarceW employed in the Baercauttle
marine and Boyj2 Navy when The Hutmy of a Ship wa*
firet written.
Mkssbs. WAnn^ Lock k Titleb, in M. nopcweir*
Ltfffnds of the Muiouri and Mwijfnppi, bare proTided
^tiei'aJ readers tvith above two dozen very readable
utoriea, which refer to the lands about the two j^eat
Tiwers, whe'u none but the Eed Men ovvD<;d them, and
when the White Man and Fire Wutor hod not yet cum-
menced their civilizing proeefia.
DvjLTn or Mr. W. P. CnHiSTis, C-B.—Evory reader
of ^' N. k Q/* will, we feel uasuretl, aharc the deep regret
with which we announce the dettth of a fn-tjuent and
valued contributor to ita colnmna— Mr. William Doug»l
Christie, M.A,, C.B. — which took place on Monday last,
41^ hit reindbnce in Doraet Square. Of Mn Chrii^tie's
vanouaiuid uaefnl parliamentary and dqdomatic services,
und his excrtione a* a social peformert it is not our pro-
vince to treat. We would rather point attention to the
e»lengive historical knowledge and snurjd critical taite
exhibited by Mr. Chriiiiie in the tuo ' hi^d works
which he hai ML Uii life of Uit I Shafte*-
^KTv (2 vole., 1S71), and The I Mia* A^^ . , .Si<;tttary
WiUiamson, lately edited by him for the OamdenSocitt^',
furnish coiicluaive evidence of Mr, Chriftie'e intimate
acquaintance with the imncrtant period to wliich they
relate ; while hia admirable edition of Dryden's Po^mA
(in the Globe and Clarendon Beriea) ma^ei it » Bubjcot
of regret that we have not a fuller and more complete
edition of tlio works of *' Glorious John " from one who
wa« BO well able to do justice to hi« genius. The Heath
of this lamented gentleman, who was only in his fifty-
ninth year, will cn^ate a void in a wide aociiU and literal^
circle.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PCTRCHASE.
I'ATtieut&n or Price, In,, of ct^it hook to be wnt dtrest be
y\\v '^ff*<ya hy vrbom i( ij requircii, wUott- nunc aod •ddnw aic«
jici.t,V Uau.. Bolt^u. IT'ff.
-> » > . ,. of % YutttiK €ren(leia«a vlioet B^mIh eti
i ' .u. IT IS.
rAiiJ«7 F^icatlj, coDcemiof Itie Etialt tt
li'Li.i,*ujtTu'i Lift jf IT. Lhad<frtoii. CAinbrid^. I7ai>* J
^Dttrr^ to Co trr^iionOritt^.
RAri£--^Thc epigram in tolerabh ^^•_'l( imown. but H
ts worth repe.itiui;. It ia laid to I n at*
eertion mode by Mr. Froude (at ¥A Mcall
writers are not truthful* and iu [Miuitit;r uy tJ^anon^
Kingaley, that there iA no truth to be found in hif*
torians,—
"' Froude informs the Scottish youth
That parsona have no care for truth ;
AS* h lie Cauon Kingsley loudly cries
That history i^ a pack of liee.
AVhat cause for jadgmct*t ^i Taal!;^ 1
A brief reflection «o' tery ;
For Froude thinks Kin ite.
And King-^ley goei tu ^ i ^ r history.*
If the above be the epigram inqulr 1 dr ' r- o hawoill| '
to add that of the uuthurahip notliin ■ lurtlier i« knowi^^
vre believe, than that it ia of Cambridge.
Stkpuakus.— If you will turn to Murray^a JIandhd6k\
for Ktnt and Sussex, p. 205, you will find yoar qoefjf 1
thus answered : — *' On the base of the second YiilMlM^ i
N. side of choir" (in the ancient church, Mlfitler« J
Isle of Thanet), **a scratched, in lettora of early (orm. I
' EKscmt qui nescit quod Naihui hie requie^cu/ A]
leaden coffin wa« difecor ^ ^ - ^^j in the ooufw
of iho restorations, po- the renmiua of
the person thuR unflntt rated."
R. P,— The reference* which you ^ek are prolNlUy
famished in the following nucieTit lines : —
" Bemardus vallfis, oolles Benediatus amabat^
Oppida FrandsGUi* umgnai I^atius urbes."
VT, A. C— There is no pn-oof that 8t, Patrick was a
Somersetshire man, and little probability Uint ho wai
an Irishman. The question of his birth[ilace is a pcratti
qwtio.
W. E. thanks our correspondents for the informftlim
supplied on pp. 53, 54.
J. W. B.— It is from Plautiu, *' Homo trium Hterisntin **
=^** Fur/' a thief.
Mii>nLK TEttPLAiL. — The allu&ion woi^ dcnibtleM^ tij
you have stated.
H. B. P.— Th? authorship haa not been dbpatcd tel
** N. k Q. '
C. O. D,— Consult the life of the Boiiitor any book ot\
folk-lore.
X. should state the case to the Archbishop of Canter-
bury.
Editorial Communications should bo addrofled to '
Editor ''—Advertisements and Bu$<ine3s Letters to ''lli» I
Publialier "'—at the Office, 2ti, Wellington Street^ Utmig I
London, W.C.
We beg leave to state thttt we decline to return cwd*
municotiODS which, for any itu^or). \\*. i\o not print ; «lld
to this rule we can make no ^
To all commUTiicatione shoi I the name und
addreea of the tender, notnecvr^iii i.> i.r pnhlioitioii, but
M ft goarantee of good ftiith.
M^^diA
E *tt«. 8, 74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
101
r, SAVmtOAT, AUGUST % m4,
CONTENTS. — N* 32.
-On th» l>«rfvfttloD of tbe PTcnch Word Vtux, 101—
A Wotk of iiiM B4U«nt7U« Prcu, 102— Stiakn>ntrittnA,
lairtA^ CiMii|»(B«ri mod PredeeeMom — *'Keljitl*>n of
\f' ifii—Worktof EdpiT Altftn P«>e~**Mrw;l. ' 105—
il aii«lley— Pftnl]«l PM»s«m-PjiltadromQ
rboiuM FuUw— "Tb» Piokwlok PApera,"
Tb« t^c of I>r, Meftd's Pictaroa ia U5i,
h— SkAlIaf Llt^ntnre, TOT » Dr. Tlidi. Be«7e't
k» DfTOtlont ; or, m CoUoctioia of Prmjfwre *"— ** The
aifCvftd*'— Wyftt, WjaU, umI Wood PMuiUc^ lOS
aimpliiesl De«eriptioii« Wanted — Authon Naihas
— ;9)p«ftioletto — "Th« 9worcl wtetttinir out tlw 8ci»b-
IlAjrtiAa Po«i— Oipfj MiLirla^e, 109 — Osleauii —
toam* fur UtUe R^^dere' — J ChoichlU, MP-—
iStflooOBptuiA -*' KJd^ Cottl's Levl^ "—The Ternpl&n
W§tHliitn^~*'Mj. Fl7« yo K info's Coal Port«r" —
la AlotspTA, DT the liuoler Chief "—LVsiL Valentine
i^8«adi»kh Muidi — "tiipi7 (^iiflui "—Domingo
B, 110.
It— "KJke •• in Chancer^" 110— "Poverty p4rt» good
7"— A rurlnua Ii«Uc of Old C«leuti«, 112— "Th«
W«ittw5 t>f *i irUe "— •* Thie Altborpc Picture Uillaj " :
, Ji "" ^uet du Mayeme^To Proat—
B«' "1 John Porter— Tlie Pynderu
lAt r.Ji — TliQ Willow PAttern —
9t i»coii«na— " Like ' a* a C«DJ unction—" Hudl-
l4-<tfiifle gr«^lu*M— ZlnsftQ Street -"Ttie litory
' Vmm" — 8«li«i In "Bokaby"- Kuijfbl BU»m :
~^ "BH— BlAld'LoM : Carr, loi^, &o — **lMtaAt«,"
, tb» JLrtiii — Inrfltied Oom mas - Charlaa I. an
IkphfD Clarke— Rer ^muel Hardy. B.A., 110
■>•« ol Wi«iiion— Andeot Ea^llAh Kpiaooptd 8«6»—
N-EUaakwth Caaxtin£. 117.
Booka* Ao.
Iber'ation of the feench woed
TEUX,
SB IKriOTHJOfT OF 1^ (OB Tf) VDR THK PlTltFO^
AUD DIMIfflSBniO THE ABBUPTKEBS
OF triT«iAirc«.
If«tta: ia, La one respect iit leiust, the
word ihftt J am acquainted with.
we expect to find nt Iciist one
original word fix)m which it is de-
^^ 'in i/t'W:^' there is nut a nn*jh kittv of
To^H^uj (from which it is uni^'ersaJly ad-
b be derived), for the two u's have nothing
If to do with it. The successive steps
k me to %ave been about the following :
peUm^ Qch^ oiU and oU^ fxU and ah^ eua,
lit, jfttUjX wid the €u^ in some of these ex-
luotieed aa «« Iti /f««^ or i mjl%^
moanocd m y in j^m.
I mti prufca* to give the exmct ie(|aenc«, bnt I
il tbc rxrtm|>!cfl in tbe moifc intelUgiblo
■ doubt inlroduced at
: I iUkWG BMsiiiued to it,
. .. . : „ oljo occur; and by the
ib9 i the»o t^wMUo 490 aftd imt. The e in
told iie«iu to i«||ifei«tit a <»bortenuig and
Ittft ot {or**) urrs. iiphtbouga
are a >ofittiyd frirm of r;.
^h|m and oe/i 1 have l. ^nth. The
^^K wUl he
IT (.'
fW%k
amplea, aeenis to be mefelj another way of ex-
prei^aing the gound of oe or tr, just jis the « in ctil
ut the present day hns much the same »i)und hb
the ftt of yeux, and exactly the isame sound a4 the
(^ii( in fkuiL The 11 cannot be the n in ornio»^ be>
cause it ia not found in the oldest forms ;§ besides
which a short Latin vowel in the position of the u
in oruhs invariably diKappeara in Frent^h (see
Brachel's Gramm,^ 2nd ed., p. 121). Nor is the u
either to be regarded as due to the change of the I
(a change which I deny ever takes pbee), for an
accented Lat. short o, regularly (or ivi^iriahhj as
Braohet haji it, ifn<L p. 119, note 1) becomes t^t in
Freack Comp. feu from fdcus^ jeu from jiwun,
lieu from Idcta^ in which words there is no medial
f, and no one can say, therefore, thnt the h in tile
correi^pondiiig French words is due to the change
ofaal.
However, it is not t^ the « of yeitjn that I wish
e,si>eciu]Jy to direct attention, but to the i or 1/,
which has been added in the middle of oil^ and at
the be>rinning in ytux, and which in the hrst case
diiiiinisshei* the hiatus between the m and the M|
and in the second gives a softMied sound to the ^u
by diminishing the abruptness of its utteranccIF
ThisTifi© of t and y is exceedingly coninioo, and
to be found in a great many languat?e8, and yet I
am not aware that it hiie ever been remarked upon.
It is imposgibJe to go into the matter exhaustively
in the pages of ** N. & Q.,-' and I will therefore
content mj^elf rather with pointing out where the
examples may be found Umu with giving umny of
them.
I do not often find i and y used thus at the be-
ginning of a word, as in ycitx. Still it does occur,
and especially it would seem in old French^ fl» in
ieri (==«r*, ». *., €rat, was), ittt (—eve^aqna), ierbe
(=/t«r&«). Comp. also in Ital. jeri (pronounced
uK, from LaU wri), and in Span, ytdra (mf^ Lat,
kt^iUra), ycrba^ Lat. herha^ And we might almost
comp. our y(Mtr{day} with the Lat. hesUmui,
In the middle of words i and y so used are very
common indeed. In French, in nM (^m nut).
or LJttr6's Diet In ths sing, we find oi7, otl^ al, vel,
ntiit iJid it U eaij to tee how the present Corm ceU has
ariien out of them. The u in the la>t two fomka h not
either of the «'« in ocuium, (See text.)
$ Burguy my9, that oil (or oyl) ia the oldest lorawii
form*
II I do not thiuk that this fifsl osae ia aaarlj so com*
mon of occurrence aa the second.
X The buccal cuirity or tube (a« Max MtlUer cattt it)
is much narrowed In pronouncing: i (=e< in /r^^ ^r 1 in
pin) or y (u in yam), ikt the dernan of tl^ < <
Drought into c1o»c proiLimity with the paltvi'
volume c»f breath eiaitted is ooniidenihly Ic^
softer souiid i« produced, Oae is thus v 1
down, aa it were, into the vowel (or conAunu^o .
the t or y. The stream of breathy iastea^i oi (.v ii
the w»y alon^ of the tome Tolamo* b«T^i\» ^o\W
gradunlly widens «mt, liSt ift\t atvto Vte.x^Xv«i\ v^^r "[^^
102
NOTES AND QUERIES.
I5*^B.lI.Acra8,74
pud (from p€dem\fid (fromfd), bun (from bene),
and in a great many otber instances. And so in
Italian and Spnuiab, though by no means always
in the same words as in French. Tliua the Fr.
membre is in Spun* miimbre^ the Fr. mcrh is in
Span* mierla. And bo again the Fr. flamnic is the
It. fiammoj where the % does not, in my opinion,
result from the change of the L
In English we find this auxiliary sound likewise,
though it ia commonJy not written at all, and when
written, not as i nor v- The sound occurs in mule
(i=.myoole), rtfusc (c£ the It. rifitito), rebuke^ dukt,
&a, but is not written. In pew (0* Fr. ptn, mii^
or piiy—hiUj m in Puy-de-Borae, from Lat.
podium), the sound is e^reased by e* and so,
perhaps, also in ntw fcf. Germ, neu), and in few
(cf. Swed. /a» Dan, ftm).
In French again it is heard, hut not written, after
Ih when they are mmtiWeSy and in their place,
when they are pronounced like y. In Itai. the i
is written ftfter gL In Span. U, and in Fort, Ih^
are pronounced miimy followed them. And so
1^ in Fr. and Ital, as in agneaUj agndlo^ n in
Spaa, as in aito (year), and nh in Port., as in anho
(lamb). In Butch I find it, as in nuuic (^new).
In Swed. it occurs also, especially after k\ when
foUowed by soft voweb, and in Irish it is much
heard (though as in Swed, not written) after con-
sonants followed by soft vowels. In German,
which is a rohnster language, it scarcely seems to
occur, though I seem to detect a little of the sound
in ah soft, as in mikh^ ich. But what need to
multiply examples? This t or y isj donbtless» to be
seen or heard in nearly all languages.
F, Chaxce,
Sydenham Hitl.
THE FIRST WORK OF THE BALLANTYKB
PRESS.
The Minitrdty oftht f?cottuh Border is, upon the
authority of Sir Walter Scott, universally believed
to be the first work which issued from the famous
Ballantyne press, and, as far as the general public
is concerned J there can be no question that this
belief is founded on fiact. But the readers of
Lockhart*s Life of Scott must have observed that
a volume printed for private circulation by James
BaUantyne preceded the M%n$tr&Uy by three yeais.
At p. 316 (first edition), Mr. Lockhart relates a
conversation which took place in December, 1799,
between Scott and Ballantyne relative to the
latter's trying to get some bookseller's work.
Ballantyne said —
'* That Buch an idea had not occurred to him ; that he
had no acqiuietonce with the Edinbiii^h * trnde ' ; but,
* In ItaL aad Spaa. % is tometiines uaed with the
Mine view of eoftenlng and preparing the way, M €.g,,
if he had, his types were gtKxl, and he thotight he couH
afford to work more cheaply than town printers.'*
Scott, with his good-humoured smile, said —
''You had better try what you can do. You harr
been praising my little ballads ; suppoic you print off a
dozen copies or 80 of as many ae will make a punphlcli
fiufficient to let m? Edinburgh acquahitanoeB judge eir
my ekitl for tliemBeiTeB.'*
Ballantyne assented ; and, I believe, exactly
twelve copies of *' William and Helen," " The Fire
King,-' " The Chase,** and a few more of these
pieces, were thrown otf accordingly, with the Utk
(idluding to the long delay of Lewis's colloction) of
Apohgy for TaUi of ToTor, 1799. Tl.T^ ^r^
snecimen of a press afterwards so <\
plea.'iied Scott, and then follows the pi ^ i jf
the MinsirtUy.
As the Apology is, perhaps, one of the nir«t
works of a celebrated author, and more e^p«ciall|
as Lockhart does not seem to have seen a copf
himself, a brief description of the volume Tnay W
of some interest to your readers. In the first
place^ then, it is something more than a *^ pam-
phlet,'' being a quarto volume of 6C» pp., ftsd
bound (at least my copy is so) in strong boards^
the name ** Poems " being stamped on the baclL
The title-page is as follows : —
•♦ An Apology for Talei of Terror. ' A thing of shreds
and patchea.'— Z/atn/eC Kelio: Printed at the
Office. 179a;'
It will be remarked that, in the convcr
with Ballantyne above quoted^ Scott wishes
eopie;^ of hin own ballads, and in the Lift^ p, 3tfl
Lockhart speaks of the Apohgij as Scott's *' oi
little volume."
Of the six ballads which compose the book, ]
ever, only three—" The Erl-King," "The Cb
and " William and Helen "—are to be found
Scott's works. The other three are " The WaU
King: a Danish BallAd" (qut^n^ who is tb
author?), " Lord William,'' and "Poor Mar}% I _
Maid of the Inn." The last-named is sUted to b^
by Mr. South ey, but his authorship of " Lord
William " is not acknowledged, and the others t
likewise printed without the name of the writci
" Lord William," and, I presume, also ** Po
Mary,'* were written for Lewis's Takjn of W\
and, as that work was not published till 18()1|
ballads nmst have made their first app
the Apology, Scott's ** Fire-King '* is no
tained in the volume. It would be intertsti
know the reason why Scott departed from
intention, and included in the Apolo
ballads than bis own. Perhans it
modesty, which was not the least pr>c»minent
characteristic of the author of WaverUy, The
translations from Burger ftppear in the Apoto^ in
their original form, t.£,, with all the false rh^inta
and Scotticisms pointed out by Lewis, and 1
were corrected before the baUads were pric
'ondt^
>logy I
was
I
)
NOTES AND QUERIES.
103
tius TaU* cf Wondsr, It only remaina to be
added that* as a specimen of typogmphy, the
Apohf^ is worthy of idl the praise bestowed upon
it W. B. Cook,
K«l«o.
SHAK8PEARUNA.
8&AK5PKARE'fi Name (5**» S. 11. 2»)— I thiok tliSt
"wc amy go too far in giving to every name the
derivation that sseeins most natural. WnghomT
for instance^ may be derived from Wigorn, and
Shukspeare, like ** Fewtarspeare," from some Nor-
mAn name denoting a very diflerent origin to thj^t
we diotild accord it in English. I do not at all
disigree with Mr. BARDSLBir^a not^, but insist on
exoeptioDs. Many also who acquired these nick-
name Kiimaines were not only servants, but the
^ns and kinsmen of feudal lords ; and whatever
the oricin of Shakspeare's name, as quite as pro-
IkiKJc ris lt^ niiLriri would be the supposition that
the first who bore it was kinsman to some feudal
Jotd. Men of Shakapeare's appearance, in the days
of onr more nncoutn ancestors and ** wdd Irish-
men,'' did not usually apring from a mediteval
Tuiduum, True, his mother was an Arden ; bat
'la specimens of rarious animals one may study
in these better days (when all cbisses are
mixed), I do not think the coarse grain
be very greatly improved by only one
:nt ; at all eYenta, Dot bo much as to tarn the
brutal-looking features of the agricultund
of Elizabeth's day mto the retined and
fMitnres of a Shakspeare. Btill, it must be
1 that long before Shakspeare's time
the '3 (even younger sons occjisionally)
qf feuajii ionis took to agriculture, as husbandmen,
and nuUTied those whose origin was serfish, so that
be inferred the mixture of cla^^es was very
lerable in Elizabeth's time, and the lower
h 11 net was not the gross, brutaJ, or
animal of, say, King John's time.
-L\, however, whatever the origin of
^ajik:«|xi*are*s name, I decidedly believe, with many
'Ttu -- that two or three hundred years before his
iiaJe ancestors were more likely to be of
iQ of villain blood.
:irlopi the Darwinian belief, animals in
' t are much the same, whether biped or
- d ; and every one knows that when an
' M iiitJiider beats the whole field in a race, it
I id, on one side or another (usually
I, that, however far back, he comes
'^1 K:k.*^ But the accomplishments of
ijt those of the man. Nevertheless,
r^r- -T*..,. _t^|j^ development uf the
l^e race is animal or in-
"'•"l*>rs habits conducive
I feet forma of head,
. . i __..,_ . _ the tine-bred tapering
ttaa or boiw* A gitM deal more might be said
on these matters, for either horse or man may have
(however well-bred the dam) quite a yokel-bred
issue, and these again a really tine breed, becauaa
some "strain" or other, imported, perhaps, in re-
mote times, occasionally " crops up/' On all these
grounds (and I could prove that there is nothing
invidious in themX I say Shakspeare s appearance
points to a far better origin than that which the
bias and vanity of not a few would assign to him.
X. Y. Z.
WagstajT and Waghorn are without doubt local
surnames. Staff is from nUd^ a place, Conf.
Envestatf, BickerstafT. Horn is a winding stream.
E. S. Charkoce.
Oray'f Inn.
Is Shakspeare Right? (5**^S, i. 485.)— It
appears to me that Shakspeare is right ; tluit the
meaning of the lines in question is easily under-
stood, and the grammar correct. The lines are^ —
•* OtHc, How i«'t, Laertes?
Latrie$. Why, ew a wcHxIcock to • mine own ffpringc^
0»Hc;
I am justly killed with mine own treaehei7.^'
//amlfe, V. 2.
First, as to the grammar in ^* How is 't, Laertes 1"
" with you '' is omitted ; the complete expression
would be, **Howi8't with you, Laertes?" Osric
says this, and Laertes answers, "It is with me (in
relation) to my own springe or treachery, as it is
with a woodcock (in relation) to his own springe."
Now as to the meaning : a woodcock is trained
to decoy other birds into a springe; first, the
fowler places him just outside the springe ; then,
while strutting about Just outside the springe, aEu
calling, and by various arts alluring other birds, the
woodcock incautiously places liis foot in or on the
springe, and so is caught. The sprinfje is termed
tlae woodcock's " own " springe, not because tlie
woodcock contrived it, as Zoilus jocularly suggests,
bvit because be standi in a certain relation to it,
i. «., stmts round it, with the view of decoying
other birds into it. The comparison seems to me
perfect : the woodcock is treacherous towards other
birds, and is caught himself ; Laertes is treacherous
towards Hamlet, and is caught himself.
F. J. V.
"Favoub" (5«* S. ii, 64,)— "Favour" is still
used in its old sense in Lancashire, though pro-
nounced favvoT, Thus, when a son resembles his
father in look, or gesture, it wiU be said, "He
favvors his father/' " Hard-favoured " and '* well-
favoured " are expressions common enough in the
North of England* Th^ cattle in Pharaohs dream
were ** well-favoared " and ** ill-favoured."
E. L. Blknkinsopp.
This word is in common use here as an expres-
• The qonf to of 1676 r«»d» '* In ** for " to/' but " to
teems to me, at least, far {ireferabk.
104
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[{/' S. U. A'ja, ^, *7k
aion of wQiilitudo between parent and child ; thus^
"She fjivnura the father," and "He favours the
Doiherv' ure accepted a» meaning a reisembLancc
"id features, F. D.
^olbitighnoL
** Lovers Labour 's Lost*' (5«» S, I 36S ; iL 3.)—
I am obliged to Jabbz for unswermg my query ^
but he IS surely wrong in attributing to Queen
? Elizabeth the mention of "the queue" in a letter
written in 1604, when Elimbeth Wiis Ln her grave.
There can be no quest ion of an error in the
endorsement, for the nobleman to whom the
lietter was addressed was only oreiiied Viscount
in August, 16()4. Speriekd.
[Jabes iLcknowletlgf 8 the error, and eintes thut Anne
of I)«fiitiArk, wife of Jdmes L, was the Queen to whom
referoQce was made.]
" Who wrote Shakspere ? " — In the article so
entitled, in Fraser's Magaxine for August, 1874, 1
find this assertion : —
^Mr. HalUwelt obserres: ' It i§ remarkable that con-
temporary writera refer to them (the SonntU) much
ofiener than to the plaje/*'
Knowing that "contemporary writers," with the
^ single exception of Meres, do not refer at all to
3hakespeare'8 SotineU^ I turned with aome curiosity
\to Mr. HaUi well's Life of Shakespeare^ 1848^
pp, 158-9, which is the foot-reference in Fra$er,
found there the sentence quoted in Frtistr^ with
jthe exception of the parenthesis ; and in Halliwell,
the prononn "them" refers to Shakespeare's
j!Fwm« {Vcnu» and Adonis, and The Hope of
i^tcrect^f which are, in fact, the topic of this and
I the preceding sentence.
Seeing that this sentence is employed by the
writer in FroMer to discredit the poems and plays
ISA the work of Shakespeare, by showing that the
~^onntts are referred to by Shakespeare^a contem-
aries much oftener than the plays (nothinff in
Ihia place beine said of the poems), I think it but
fiiir to expose tms extraordinary mist^ike,
I note also that the actual assertion in Mr,
HalliweU's Life of Shakespeare is not correct.
-^hakespeare^s contemporaries mention or refer to
^liia plays much more frequently than to his poems.
Jabez.
BtJmfAN'B COMPEERS AND PREDECB8S0EB.
Doutscli, on the Talmud, says :—
*' Wt (tltall deroie the brief fpace that remidni to this
^ f^tt<l for a E«iierai picture of H we Bball refer
^ , wlio^ fpeakiog of his oirn book, which —
L Jul,.,, m^tttndu — is Tery Haggadistk, nnknowinglr
l4eseritMS tlie HagfmdaiK as accurately m can be.' —
^L%f4ntr^ Remaitu ofSmanuel DeuUck, p. 47.
euts^ch then gives the poetiy of Bunyan prefiitory
rifi his Ptlgrim'8 Frogrm,^ explanatory of the
contenu of the Bmggadah to be found in tiie work
-41
of Bunyan. Bunsen, in his second vork on
polytus, comptires the authf- ^* ** ■ " ?t»f
HtrmAU to Bunyan and his J ^^^
In the use of allegory the . . .sity be-
tween The Pastor of Bciinas and Thf PUftiiA't
Progress ; and there may be btl wif >n thf Ha»jgad£kk
and The PilgHm'^ Pro^ts^ . 'r. Deut*ch,
such an authority on the T". , tnuse be*
tween them. There are but it lt, ac-
quainted with the JJoffgadah or '1'" UoaitD
compares The Sh^jih^ird of JJcrmoi w tlie trilogy
of Dante as well as The Pilgrim'jt Progftm «f
Bunyan. He appears to put on an equality «f
meJit the three authors and their works^ It may
be asked whether Bunyan could have bean ae-
quaioted with Eaggadah or Talnmd, Shfphird «/
Jlermas or Dante and his p>oem, or ' * , wiiijdi
appears most probable, he only v une «o
the same subject, as all write, \'^ nowx]^
or following in the footsteps of e:u
The judgments of celebrated wi i
of others hiive been recently givr
that, but variations of their own op:
ent times on the same auihoni and
po7<itionB.
IreDtf^uB, against heroaiea, at one time qaots
Bermas with approbatiaD, when he siip|>orU hi»
views, and on another occasion condenuia him oitd
his works, when contrary to him.
Tertullian, on prayer, aasunkcs the Soiipiiiiif
dignity of the book called TJt^ Sh^tsrd o/ Si rmm;
yet in another, De FndicUia^ when the taxi if
against him, he treats the same work as impose
apocryphal, and scouted by all the churobea.
It is curious after ao many ages Buaaen alia
follow the eame course as his predeocacon ui 1
criticism of the same work. BunsoD, itt liia I
book on Hippi^ljtus, says J7i^ Sh^v^"""^ ^^ Rm
is an absurd composition ; and oi> ttcaoi
book on Hippolytus, he says 1 1 i^
shepherd is equal to Dante and ii
yan and liis PiUftim^s Progtina.
Ilerfnas seems to have been a niii
in the first ages of Christianity. .
was used by the earliest churcheti u^ «a tic
elementary instruction. — E, II. y b. in. ch. iiL
And not only this may be said to be the ph
of Bimyan^s Pilgrim's Pro*;r«w, but it may
said to have kept it in popular e&timatic
Pa4tor of Hrrtfui^f from being bound uji '
New Testament, accounted Scripture, and
churche&f fell into entire di&iise. Lately, 6001
three tiunslations of it into F •' ' .1. — tnay [
thought to be a revival of int^ ur*
V. . J, i^incn* I
**Bblatioji or England." — A H«la
this title wna written about a.d» 15iX), by a«^
Venetian in the suite of the Ambttiavdc^
Venice to the Court of England, A tnin»
tP^ H. II. Av9. 6, 7iO
KOTES AND QUERIES.
105
of thfff ruHous docrtment, "wiUi the teit at fool, waa
pijl tW Cumitcu Society iu 18^17. It is
r^r iQ^% atid writleii hj a man of good
if I uou. Amongst many interesting
m:i one qiieation that perhapi:; *oiae
fmuf r Ml .>. tv Q/' ciin settle^ viz., that Julius
Caasor set? the three sides of Eogland at %iH)(t
i«ik«» wliilKt Bede makes it 3,000, Who m right }
The rivf-rn ahound, he says, in every species of
Xian fiih^ " except cjirp, t^nch, and perct " (" ma
^per<\ carponi^ o temoh, no peradci"). As to the
n, it ^*em9 there is a disitich in Bakers Oiro-
iitd<.'—
' Hop* and torke^e^ carps and hew,
" " 1 a year/*
Came into England all in
Now Ron*lelet (born 1507) fiays of the perch tbut
it ahouociK more in the Po and in Ent^land than
anjwh^'TV else. It is stranjie thiit before the middle
of the century it should have been abandaiit if
anknnwTi at the commencement. Leonard Mascal,
or ^ of Sussex^ is said to have introduced
tht It 1514.
< H we had abuDdance of tceea, but
ntl ^ nor fir,
\ luei, loo J were cultivated ; and Bede me nt ions
fiiiejania. The Vale of Glouccater waa very
favourable to the vine, and Rkhard II. made wiue
in ihi* little park, Windsor. It is anppoBed that
when the Enjrligh had po^nedsion of Uaacony the
choapn»*&.% of wine thenoe imported destroyed the
home manufacture ; but I have read that the
cutting down of the forests so changed the climate
i t\n- vliiA would no longer thrive. Diaatforest-
atly the tempemtnre ol a district.
1 u makes a oarjooa remark tliait the
homn oi Enjjliah oxen are mtich larger than the
Italian^, which proves the mildness of the cbnuite,
av homa iril] not bear esoowive cold (** impero che
il rnmo dA toUera freddo ecoeasivo^).
'f tjiany more points to whidi attention
m.. a if any of tfie«e lead to the eetabli^-
mwit uf fucL5 touching any of them. The ftimple
obaervationa of keen observers are more pregnant
\h< of half the phikMOphers ; and
theae jh of the Camden Society have
nr vr - '" I iinnk, duly searched for the marrow
tli They teem with facts physical^
M> I political ; and if a man could bring
•D V a^ that of lyjrd Baoon or Btifibn to
ht-^. ., ,, iiiii), marshalling all that is of vnlue in
them into nne book^ I, for one, fchould value the
work afl of hi/ln r price by fiir than all the aemi-
Uiiiflricnl, r-ophical diaquititions of
Bume « «o-c: I h rj^ of England.
C. A. Ward.
Jl«yfair.
W<mK8 or ElMiAn Amjin Pok. — Mr. John
Camdes Hotl«n npem Um> ''Preliminary'' to bk
(1&72) with the alittAaient that "^ the pre-
sent edition is more complete than any yet pub-
lislied in i\m country." It may be worth while
to inform English readers that thia edition is,
nev^rtheleas, far from compkte. In fact, no com-
plete oolbction of Poe'6 writings has yet beon
published even in America, IVIr. Hot ten's edition
wants at hsaat one-half of the matter contained in
the editions of lledfield and Widdleton (New
York), which contain, I believe, all of l*of^^^
known \x rit Jn,rM excepting hi*< two series of papers
on **.A V and Onrp^ograpliy " (publiKhod
m Gnt/ .:\"jaxim^ 1841), and perhaps some
in tnor reviews, Mr, Hotten, probably, means to
clamr thivt his edition contains more of Foe*a
writings (a thing cannot be either taore or Uu
tovitpUiU) than any edition previously published in
EnjLilacd (or Bnt^iin) ; and this claim may be fully
jiiMtifjod by the facts. But he follows this with a
sUitcment that is not thus justifiable. Thia edi-
tion, he 8jiy«*, ** gives the whol€ of the poema and
storiefi which have been left us by this fine genius,'*
&c. This statement is so far from true, that there
are jii«t nineteen ritories contained in tlie Amerioan
editions which are not contained in Mr, Hotten'c.
Among them are, the ** Narrative of Arthur Gor-
don PyTii»'' which is by far the most lengthy of
Poes tales, and, in some respectij, tlie iinmt re-
markable ; and " The Fall of the House of Udher/'
which has been pointed out by each of his three
literary bio^rriiphen? in this country (U.S*A.) as
the most characteristic production of Foe's peculiar
geni««, and the l>efit example of his kighest poweia
in the department of prose.
I will only add tbiit of this author's essays and
criticisraf! Sir. Hotten's edition contains but a
fragment, and that the one essay which has called
forth the most unqualified praise of his critics,
viz., '* Eureka,'* is omitted. G. L, H.
Qrecnville, AI&.
"Streel.^- — There is one word in common mse
in Ireland I do not find noticed in ** N. & Q./' t, c,,
the word stre^h It is not in Webster nor in the
Slang LHttkynary^ although its derivation, per-
haps, from the Latin itratumy or the same root ti»
the English ttntc^ may be pkin enough. It *igni-
Hqh generally to ilrag along the ground in a care-
less manner, as the following quotations of Dublin
slang will ^bow : —
*' Bg fft reeled hia coat all over the Mti but conld fOt
no one to trend on it.**
" She it a dirty athreel f\. e^ c»releBi ia h«r diMi)/'
" Ue Atreeled me up the CrM^mbe and up and down
Francis Street till I tbougbt 1 d dfarop in my aUnnin.*'
"bet af go out and take & itrecl (it ttrotl?) up uidt
djjwn the qtmy/'
'' And she went along streeling her dirty gowod In the
gutter behind her.'*
It appe:ir% to be a very expreeaive word,*
H. U.
• Kbhlar givct the wotd \n \iaa GtrmiMb bvdM«a.vn|*
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5** .IL Ac.i. 15,71-
Blood.— The want of preciMon m aonie popular
Ideas ifl often very perplexing. I refer chiefly to
the pride of birth. Id India, there is a strong pre-
jtidioe againat the otispring of a European father
and a HindusUmi m other, or, as they are called,
EiMn»ian8. There fieems to be no really sound
ethnological reason^ however, for thi» objection,
and the Eurasian ia generally proud of his
paternal origin. In England, on the contrary,
feuraaians^ especially of the gentler sex, are often
very much admired. One of the most Highland
of all Highlanders I ever met was a mulatto, the
legitimate son of an Aberdeenshire gentleman by
a negro mother. Unfortunately, be took very
much after the latter, und, for this accidental cir-
cumstance, he was unable to enforce his pretensions
in society, to be considered *' an armiger " and re-
pi^eaentattTe of a good old family. Hts want of
sufficient means, however, may have had a great
deal to do with the cold water thrown on his just
claims.*
But it does not require, after all, a bond fide
Norumn descent to make some men the ** proudest
of tht proud/' Some of the most fastidious men
I have ever known were not awure that they had
no descent whatever beyond timt which is coromon
to all ; but their hallucination had the good effect
of making them courteous and honoumble.
Again, the coromon expression, *' aristocratic
looking," is equally applicuble to occasional
indiYidualfl in all classes of society where a(!tual
want is not found, and the converse holds good.
The ** indecent clown " is not alone found in the
Helds. S.
Balzac and Shelley. — The Clvrutian World
obaerves —
'' In Balxac's talis of the Feau de Chagrin, the possessor
fmda hifl ataukt sliTtnkingdfty by d&y^ond as it contracts
to & span, BO hie life ehrlitlu away in equal proportionii."
If we turn to Shelley^s Alastor^ we find some-
thing very similiur. The enthusiast dies, gazing on
the moon —
" Still ai the dmded frame
f>f the vast meteor sunk, the Poet's blood
Thut ever heat in mystic wirinpatliy
With nature's ebb antt tlow grew feebler »tilL
..... 'till the miiiuteai ray
Wm quetich'd^ the puke still lingered in his he&ri"
There %b no plagiarism. I merely allnde to the
two writers to show a similarity of ideas. Shelley's
conception is more sublime than that of Balzac ;
but we must be^r in mind that one occurs in a
poem, the other is found in a prooe ronuinoe.
although he eTidcntly does not know the Irish meaning
of it, ma he tranilates it ** str&htea/' to beam or irmdijite.
• There is m curious sayirt{,' in tbe West Indies tliat
?nu can always detect bfack blood by ttic griitle of a
man's nofe^ ». e., if he has black ancestry, the griffclv
point of the nose has no division in it.
■Sk
PaRALLKL PA88AOSS (5**^ 8. L 466.)—
*' Full many a flower is bom lo blnih unseen,
And waste its sweetneta on the de«ert air."
Compare Waller's song, " Go, lovely Kose," in J
and 3rd stanzas: —
'^Tetl her that '« youn^,
And ihuns to have her graces spied.
That bad'st thou tpning
In deserts* where no men abide,
Thou mujt have uncommend«d died.
Smalt is the worth
Of beauty from the light rvtit^d :
Bid her come forth ^
Suffer herself to be deetrec^
And not blush so to be admired."
J. w. w,
Palixdromr, — I have met mth the foU owing '
one in Oamden^s Rfmainea, Camden says*^ —
'* I will end with this of Odo, holding Master Df>ctoiir't ^M
mule, and Aune with her table-cloth* wliich aM the ^M
maker much foolish labour^ for it is a perfect rcr^e, and ^^
every word is the very same, both backward and for watd.
* Odo tenet mulum, madidam mappam tenet Anna,
Anna tenet mappam madidam, mulum tenet Odo/ "
Fredk, RrLK.
Dr. South and Thomas Fullkr,^ — In one of^
South's speeches, as Terr»*-filiti8, at the Ojffowl
Comroem oration of 1657, he mentions, amon pother
droll exuLggenitions of Fullers person and cha-
nicter, that he was once nn unsuccessful eandidnte
for a post AS sub-librarian in the gift of the Uni-
versity of Oxford :— * ^
'^Unum hoc supereet notatu dignam, quod super
Tacante Inferior is Btbliothecarii loco, Acudemiie noetrfe
tuppHcavit per litenu, ut 6ibi iltum conferret : sed
neimrit Academiaj^ nee ilium admtait BibliothecRrinm,
ob nunc rationemi ne Bibliothecee scripta sua ingcrerel ! '
WTiiit position is here referred to, and is the
petition extant ? One refuFes to believe that the
fnct was made up by South. It is noteworthy
that Heylyn twitted Fuller for this veiy speech,
to whom the latter replied^ —
*' For the seventeen years I Uved m Cftm^nV;^ I
never heard any Prevaricator mention his jeaior [South
was then only twenty-lour years old, Fuller double the
igej bjf name: we count such partfCulaHsmff betiealh au
Untvernty. ... I regret not lo be Aorile, for any in*
genioua Nammtr to make pleasant mufiick on; but it
•ecms my Traduoer was not so happy."— The App^nl o/
innir«d It^noemet, pL L« p* 28.
J. E. Bailkt.
"The Pickwick Papers."— During a recent
visit to London, I remarked with snti-* <^ ^«"t* tliat
tablets have been affixed to many n
ex. gr.^ Franklin's house at Soutli i . ^^ton,
Drj'den's house in Gerrard Street* Soho* &c. Re-
gtinlinfj this as a most pmiseworthy act, I beg to
suggest that one of these tablets should be put np
on the wall of the bouse facing Woods Hot^^xl (the
nght'hand entrance}, in Fumival's Inn, Holbom,
I
NOTES AND QUERIES.
107
IQ jYcord that in thAt hoti^ Charles Dickens wrote
Th4 Piekmde Papen, F. D. F,
Dr. Watts,— a great deal of fusg was njiwie
lately by tkc newspApers bex^use Dr. Watts (the
bicentenary of whose birth has just been celebrateil
at Southampton), when only nineteen years of age,
gare an impromptu description of the first miiaclo
in the following words :—
** Modc«t water, pressed by power dirtne,
F%w its Lord, and blushed itMlf to wioA."*
Si I Watts is not to hare the credit of
Ui . si conceit. Richard Crasbaw, the poet,
died tweoty-four years before Wiitts was born*
Tbc ktter knew Latin well, and it is highly pro-
bible he wivi iic*iuainted with the Latin poems and
epj^mms which the fonuer composed while resident
ftl Cambridge^ and which, doubtless, were more
widely read during Watts's time than they are
now. In this volume we find a reference to the
miracle thus : —
*' The eofifcloua water law lU Qod and blushed.*'
Wm. Trant.
The SiCK of Dr. Mead's Pictures in 1754.
— The quarto sale catalogue of Dr. Mead's pictures
in 1754 is very scarce. In the British Museuui is
» oopy with the prices marked in ink ; but I have
ADOtiier to which some person jittached, many
yeATv since, Tfic Evening AdveitUcr^ dated, ** Lon-
don, from Thursday f March 21, to Saturday,
March 23, 1754.'' This newspaper was, in fact, a
penny paper, if we deduct the halfpenny atamp, as
the price wa* three hidfpuce. In it are given the
following particulars, which are reprinted from the
anginal newspaper. There is an octavo catalopie
of I)r. Mead's pictures, published in 1755, but it
is not a reprint of this quarto sale catalogue as the
pictures are placed in a diflerent order. The
former is ti descriptive eatalo^ue^ Many of the
picture* have l>ecn engraved. In the above-named
number of TA** Etxntng AdLHf\rtuer are recorded
h^ death of Deistpade, the dancing master, and
©enlence of ** Elizabeth Newton, for breaking
I a Hou^e, to be uhipC^ Ralph N. James.
bford> Kent.
bo priced catalogue is too long for iosertioti. We
fnmj, hitvifeTitr, remark, thai we collect from Tki Bveninff
Advartutr that Dr. Mead's hundred and eixty pictures
" in three nighU* fale for ;i.417t ll#. The
ie« was realtied hy " An holy Pamilj with two
itteiidiag^ and one playing on » Harp, Cariti
Mff- V. ]5#. Thif was the laat lot aold on the
(hi' lid aext hijrhett price wai fetched bj *'Sir
T»3 "- '^'hmgih, Rubens," U5Ll0g. The
W A Man'i Head, Com. Jantea,
I/. ' went wan for " Mtt. Barber the
nufi -iter Coluui-a, 1/. 9*." A thr«e-<]uarterB of
I)r. ^ i. 1 y KiieU«r, went for 2L, and Walker'i Oliver
CrukAwil, ^Uxee-quarten, for two guineas and a half.]
laurrM*
[We must request correspondents desiring infomiatioii
on family matteti of only private interetti to affix thair
names and addrsssoa to their querieti in order that lh«
answan may be addressed to them direct.]
SKATING LITERATURE.
Wilt those who are able kindly help to perfett
the following list I
I give a tmnacript of the title-page within
commas, followed by other particulars within
brackets : —
"A Treatise on Skating; founded on certain principW
deduced from many years' experience : by which that
noble exercise i« now reduced to an art, and may b^
taught and learned hy a regular method^ with both ease
and safety. The whole itJustrated with copper plates, re-
presenting the attitudes and graces. By R^ohert] Jones,
LiGutenaQt of Artillery. . . . London, printed for the
author : and sold by J. Ridley, in 8t, Jameses Street*
MtHTCLXXII."
[Svo., pp. xTi 64, 4 plates and 2 figa., 2s. 0d.]
*' The Art of Skating, practically expl«ined« by Lieut.
R. Jones, R,A., with revisions and additions br W. £.
Cormock, Esq., with plates. .... Loudon : Bally Brothers^
3, Royal Exchange Buildings."
(" Boily Brothers, printers.** 1855 ? 8vo. pp, 40, five
pUtes.1
"The Art of Skating practically explained. With
plates. .... London : Baily Brothers, 3, Royal Exchange
Buildings.'"
[** Baily Brothers," printcri. On wrapper, *'.,.. A.
H, Baily «r Co 186f). Price one Shilling." 8fo.,
pp. 40^ 5 plates. This pamphlet and the preceding one
are reprints, with slight alterations, of the 1772 pam
phleL]
"Garcin (J.), Yrai (le] patincur, ou principes sor Tart
de patincr avec gr&ce, etc. Paris, Delevptnasse ; Be-
Iftunay ; Nercu do TAuteur, 181S, iii-12. 1 fr. fX) c."
This I find as an entry in torn. iii. p. 256, of
Quii'mrd (J. M.), La France Littemire. 12 totn.
Paris, 1827-64. 4to. I have not seen a copy.
" The Art of Skating, containing directions for be-
ginners, learners, and good skaters, and explaining all
(he movements and figures. By a Skater. London:
Basil Steuart, 139, Cheapride, 1$32.'*
[*• R White k Son. printers, 25, New Street, Biihops-
gate.*' 8?©., pp. 16. 7 plates. Plate 1 wa« ^* designed
and lithographed by A- Gordon, 145, Btrmnd,"*]
Who was the author ?
**Thc Art of Skating; with plain dipections for the
acquirement of the most difficult snd elegant moTemenU.
By Cyclos, a member of the Glasgow 8kattng-Clab,
Glasgow: Thomas Murray & Son, An?yl« Strsat
London : David Bogue. Edinburgh : John Measles.
MDCCCLir.'*
[♦'John Neilson, printer, Trongate," 8to. pp. l-riii-
80. 3 plates and a liihog.]
A work on skating, published at Belfast, m
noted in the preface.. I have not seen a copy of it.
"John CjcIoA, mitglied des SchHttscbuhfahrerClubs
SQ Glascow, die kunst des 8chlitt>chuhfarens, mit
deutlichen anweisungvn rar erlernung der sohwierigsten
und grastoiesten be wegungen. Z weite vermehrte aalegv*
Mit 4 erliiutemden ufehi. Weimar. 1858, Verlsg^
dnickt und litbo/raphie von B. F. Volf^."
[Sto.. pp. tiu-60. 4 |»\a\t%.^
m^
NOTES AND QUEPOES.
[S*aiLAoo.8,t4..
1
Tho first edition of thi» txansktion I huvc not
seen.
*'Tbe Art of Skating ; «ontftining niAny ^^ros noTier
prcTiouEilj deeciibed, with iUuttmiiontt, dift^ratnn, and '
pljiiii directions for the acquirement of the niojit difficult
and olegiiut nioTtment«. By George Audeiiaon (' Cychjg'),
for nuaj Teikr» |>r»«ident of the GImrow Skatiu}; Club.
Second edition. London : Horace Cox. 346, Htmud,
"W f^ HUM "
["Printed by Horace Cox/* 8to*, pp. Trlil*72. 8
plBt»«id2fig8.}
^TLe Art of skating; contttinitig ttiuij figures never
preTiousl; Ue^cribci], with illufltrations. diaKrumt^, &tid
pMn direct ioti» for the acquirement of the moet difficu't
afld elegant mcrrein^nts. By George Anderson {** Cyoloi *') .
Tice-preiident of the Cryital P&la«e Slmttng-Cliib. Third
edition. London: Horace Cox, S46, Strand, W.C,
1873."
[••Printed by Horace Cox." 8vo., pp. x-Sl 10
plftteft and 5 figi., 3f. 6d,]
'' T^yeiologie du patineur, oti definition complete dee
principcs et de* r^-gles qui fl*appliquent A rez«reiee da
patin pur un ancicu p^tiucur. Paris. Bentu, Libratre*
Edittiur, l*alai6 Kuyal, galerie d'OrK'atls. ISfe. Tons
droit« r»a«rT««/
f* Typogr»|>hic, Monnoyer Frtrea, Au M&ue ^SartLe).**
12ino.,'pp. iT-lld, 6 Utliographs*]
Who wfts the author ?
<' Skates (The). ISmo., cL 75 cti. Boston, Maw.
aaSoo., 1864**
An entry in vol i. p. 193 of Kel!y (J.), The
American Cat of Books (Jan., 1861, to Jan.,
1871). 2 Tola, New York md London, 1866-71.
8vow
I hAYG not seen a copy, but suppose it to be a
work reLiting to tsknting. Who was the author,
and what is the full name of tbe ** Moafi, S. S.
Society"!
" out. E. L., Skater's Mannal. UeTitea ed. ISmo.
pap. 10 cts, K. Y. A. Peck k Co., 1S67."
This is another entry in Kelly's Am, Cai., vol* il,
p. IGL I have neither seen this revised edition
nor tJae edition of ^vbich it is i^ revision.
** The Skater'a Text-Bnok, By Frank Swift, champion
of America, ntid Marvin R. Clark, tbe noted akaiing
critic* New York/'
(" Entered, according to act of Coogreii, in the year
ISflS. by Wm, H. Biihop and Marvin R, Clark, in the
clerk's office of the district cotirt of the United States for
the southern district of New York." *' John A. iJray JSi
Oreen, printers, 16 aud IS, Jacob Street, New York.**
12ino,, pp. ii-ll€. 7 cuts aud 3S figs., pap. 50 cts., cl
75 eta 1
"A System of Figure-Skating. Being the theory and
practice of the art as developed in EnKluad^ with a
ghmcoat its origin and hintory. By H.fenry] £<[uKene]
Vanderrell, and Tfhomas] AlaxweinVithsmj meaihers
of the Ltmdoii Sktitii»g Club. London : AlacmiJiuii k Co .
186a The right of tnmstation and reproduction ia
reaerrcd/*
[" London, IL Clay, Sons k Taylor, printers, Bread
Stveei HilL" Svo. pp. xviit-266. 4 double plates. Si
figi. ^.]
Thia la«t work ta sLraply admirable. The Bom-
mary (pp. 98-99) of the ei^ht " main |>oints that will
oonstitute a first-clas3 skaler, a» tTtttl«i of "* in tbe
work, h probably worth more than all that Una
previoualy been written on the subject — worth
moret not only to those in their tyrociny in the
art, but to the skater of many winters.
I had the intention of transcribing these eight
points, for they are contained in as many lines,
but, on commencing, I felt in anticipation so like
a thief that I delisted. There are a few line*
which I feel free to t range ribe,-- these ; mi^ they
bear abundant fruit, here or elsewhere : —
" Should there be any readers of this work In possessiaa
of any authentic information that would tcTui to tfirow
farther light upon the origin, and extend t of
skating, and would like, ia the interests io
intruat it to the nuthors with a view tt> i..* ...,^. .u>«i.
should thia work t;Ter reach a second edition, they will
be happy to receive it^' (p. 35).
Besides poaseasing the SyiteiH of ¥>■ '^^
the third edition (1973) of the Art of aid
abo an American work — that of Swift iuid t'Luk,
if there ia not a better one with which I am un-
acquainted— should be read ; the facts (and fal-
lacies) will then be before the reader, and his
judgment may foUow.
There is a distinct class of skating literatnre^
the "Specifications" relating to skating—-" PuV
lished at the Great Seal Patent Office, 25,, South-
ampton BiiildingSj Holbom,'' which I can only
thus refer tc». Frxo, W. Fo&t&r.
Dr. Thos. Reeve's "PtrnLiirE Dwonom;
OH, A Collection of Pratees," London, 12tiiat
leSL-'I should l>e glad to obtain from anv owner
of this book one or two particulars of it. It ia not
to be found in the public libraries. Though cata-
logued in the British Museum Collection, the copy
cannot now bs found. It beare, I am iiiformecj,
an ** old Library " press-murk, and when the col»
lection wiw re-marked, more than forty years affo*
it was missing. It seems to be au earlier and
unnoticed edition of ^* Pulpit Sparks: or, Chmcc
Form^ of Prtwytr^ by fieveml lenrued and godly
divines, used by them both !»ctuh3 and after
Sermon,* London, 12mo., 1*^59, a copy of which b
said to be aft Trinity College, Cambridge. An
earlier edition of the same book apparently ia
found on the regititer^ of Stationers' Ilall» Feb.^
16B3-4,^**A book containing y* or.iyers of I>r.
(lillingham^ Dr. Reevf^^ Dr, Holdisworth, I>r.
Tailor (Jcrremy), Mr. Goddjird, Mr. FuUcr, Mr.
Harding, Mi. Machines t, and other divines, uaod
before weir aermonB."
'* Tor On^acn Revived,'' by J. R, 16«3, l2mo.
— The querist wishes to make a reference to thi*
scaroe book^ and would begmteful to any |)oasessor
of it who would oblige him. Jomi B, Bails t.
Stretfbrd, MaaclMster.
Wtat, Wtatt, akd Wood Faitiijks, — I
should be glad to be infonned as to the deccen-
Us. ILA0«.8t74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
109
of Isiiac Wjat, of Bobbingwortb, Eas4>x^ who
led Elizabeth Kid|;e, Mary Preston, and a
MfA H»f»v wbo«e Daoie I do not know ; of Edward
Wv Hiking, EaseiLj who in:irried Jane,
nee* > r :iiid co-heiress of Wilton Brown,
of ! X ; of Edwurd Wyut, of Rcat^
wh'* iiik^ daughter of H, Duigky, of
ChiulUai, \Vurcy«ite.rshire ; and of Thoraa* Wyat,
of Brivxt4;d, Esaer, in 1624^ who married Saj&h,
' Icr and heireas of Paid Ambrose Vincent^ of
n, goldmiiith. Several of the Wyat faniily
have resided at Tillinghaiu, Essex* in
nth centur}% Geor^'e Wyatt, of SL
fs, Westminster, son of John Wyatt by
wife Elizabeth (Browne), muTied 23rd July
^ at p. 44>9), 1722, at St. Paul\
n^ Hannah Wood, of St. Margaret^
but of her family I have gxeaned
nothing, nor do I know where her birth, on 2(itU
aber^ 1703, toi>k place, or who her mother
I find a Thomas Wood, Vestry Clerk of St.
*»^ Westiuinater, in 1733.
REijiNALD Stewart Boddinoton,
15, M^rkhMn
hU
^ptember,
BiBUooaAPnicAL desciiptiona of tho following
woritt are r^iuested :^
The Russian edition of J. B. dn Halde*s De-
seriBiion of China, Have any editions of this
wodc been pobUshed in other languages besides
Frenrh, Entrliisli, German, and Russian l
'/e du Gouiwrmmrnt CJiinois^ Paris,
nne SilhouettCj Comptroller of the
LQ Fmnce in 17r>9. Is this the exact
i AS it been translated ?
''>h edition of Osbeck's J^avehi to
ili' Have they been published in
Unjru Piv^ niner than German (17t>5} and English
(I77i)?
Hare the Ldtres Edifianiu been published in
'^ other than French, German (Stockletz),
I?
SCTBSCRIBER IW THE FaR EaBT.
AirrRORs' Najtvb wanted of the following :—
I. AbboM of ShaftBtbury ; or, the Days of John of
GMaL A Tttleu hand., Kivingtoo, 1846.
IL Abbatflinere. A Tale. By Miury Gertrude. Load..
II. Acwlemic Error*; or, Kecollectiani of Youth. By
a Member of the rniveraity of Cambridge. Load.,
4 The Acftdian Cofle of Signals. ... By a Prai^liciil
fWUsfmplliit. . . . Load,. W. L«wii, St Joba'a Square,
lSt7 (•£« Qtfdtimiin^** Magaxint^ part L p. 439).
& AM>9»|i1libe<l Hypticrtte; or. Bran Glitter? mor«
Hoi O^hL A Moral Tale iu two vols. Ey A. U
UmL, a. £, Newman, 1822.
6. Acrofli ilie ChanaeL By Theophilat Oper. 13^.
Ulphar Hamst.
JM BanMl, Herts.
Srasstourrro. — I want a rompl««te ILgt of this
, «MiraCel pamters* worits. A genilemfiu of mv
acquaintance has pecently purohasod n iv.iTiMMrf of
St. Jerome, which represents the sairi' ng
position, gazing earnestly upon a skull . _ : tiu,
on an aoclivity of a cave or hermitage. The
picture is more than two hundred years old, as the
canvas and frame are of very old manu^tore.
The reason I have for wantiog a list of Spugnoletto*8
paintings is this, viz., the painting was bought
under nither peculiar circunistances, and was
always said to be his; my friend paid rather a
high price for it, and wishes to satisfy himself i\s to
ib* authenticity. Chalmers, in his /■ 'ad
Didionarify wjs, " St. Jerome was one ^ ng
subjects; he painted, he etched him, m iiuuitTous
repetitions, in whole lengths and half Bgures." I
shall be very much obliged to any one who will
kindly give the list, Frederick Ovrrtok.
*'The Sword wEARiN«t out the Scabbard," —
Lord Byron, in a letter, uae^ the erprcsiion in
reference to himself, that " the sword is wearing
out the scabbard/* Cnrlyle, in his Lif$ of John
Sttrling^ says tlmt be wore l^ola lu the oatmird
case of his body by his restless vitality, which
could not otherwise find vent ; and, in a bio-
graphical notice of the painter Titian, it is said
that, in extreme old age, his soul was keen und
brilliant, Uke a sword which had worn out its
scabbard. The expression, with little variation^
has been frequently employed by writers sinoe
ByroR'^ time. Is it to be found in the works of
any author prior to the noble poet 1 W. A. C.
Gtaagow.
Haytian Poet. — I have a cutting some yeara
old from the New York fribuntr which reads :—
"There is a simple and beautiful itftuaii— beautiful
becauM aimple — ^whioh I found in a book of poems by a
Haytiaci author. It U written ; of course the origtoal
{whi{:li 1 have loit) is in Freacfa, bat my traxulation is
Tery literal^ containmg one word only— /(itn^y — ^wMoh
if noi in the author's verse :—
* Last Wisb or a Motssr.
O God ! Bhe faintly said, ap«n ber dying bed.
If I have followed Thy divine baheil*
As my entire reward grant this rcoaef t :
Makti mo the guardian angol to my bab«s when dead ! ' **
Can any reader supply the orieinjil and the
author's name ? \V. E. A. A*
Gipsy Marriage.— In the Tinww list of mar-
riages on July 21, 1S74, appeared the two follow-
ing curious announcements : —
•^On the 11th instant, at Valid Herr^^« Norway*
Uubert i^mitU, E«q., the authnr of Tin.t L^h vUk Knffluh
OipnifM tji 3'onctiy, to Ksmeriilda, the fleroine of his
bo9k/'
*• On Ihellth initant, Adreg ValUi Philllaain, Xorvray^
the Rve Hut*«rt 9aiiUit E^t., romado to Tkrno E^mef^
alda Look, who pooken covah tiafa to law Bomanj
Palftr*/*
' lW>tTOW*»Rwn«wiLo,TolAA^*^
no
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*^ 8. IL Aco. 8, 74
"Oa the 11th, in ifao &e«, Korw&y, the Noble Hubert
Smith, Esq,, married to Tftroo, kc, whotftlks bewitching
words to laugh at her Gipsy hrethreiL'*
Am I right 1 • Pelaoius.
OsTEMAN. — Win some one be good enough to
state what is the meaning of this tenii i To what
IMTofeBsion, trade, or craft does it apply f It t>L*curs
in Bome Chancery proeeedinf^rg in 1677, in which
one Thomas Armorer, of Newcaade-npon-Tyne, is
described as ** Ostenmn/^ HalUwell gives " Oust "
(1) as curd for cheese (north), and (2) as a kiln for
ID alt or hops (Kent)* Does it, in the present case,
signify *^ maltster"! John Maclkax.
HammcrBmitli.
"Little Poems for Little READKR8."^In
this little volume, recently published by Ront-
iedge & Son, there is one called ** The Orphan a/*
the fiist line of which is, —
"* My clmiao the Tillage inn had gained."
These simple verses I have known for forty years,
having been taught them by mj father, five and
thirty years dead. Can any one inform me who is
their author 1 JoeN Bowes.
John CHtmcHiu^ M.P. for Newtown, 167a —
What authority is there for identifying him with
the great Duke of IMarlhorough i Fosa ideotifies
him with Sir John Churchill, Master of the Rolls ;
bnt he was knighted before 1679, and woidd have
been described with the handle to his name,
Coxe says that Alarlboroiigh never sat in the House
of Commons, Alfred B. Beavejj, M,A.
Preston.
Albizzia sericocephala. — Thia is a tree of
Southern Kordofan, and is described in Dr.
Schwcinfurth'a Heart of AfriccL, But there m one
point in this description, oa it appears in the
English translation (1674, 2nd edit., vol. i. p. 144)^
which I am unable to comprehend. The translator
thus gives it : " The finely-articulated, mimosa-
like leaf consists of from 5,0<30 to 6,0110 particles."
** Particles '^ cannot be right. Can the proper
word be pints f Jabez.
AtheaoBum Club.
" KiKG CoAL*fl Lkv^" — 1m the author known
of—
" Kinijc Goafs Lev^e, or G&olopcal Etiquette, with
Explanatory Notes, and the Council of the Metak; also
Baron Baaalfs Tour, 3rd ed. 12aio. 1819,"
which I lind in a recent catalogue 1
DUDLKY ArMTTAGE,
The Templars akd Hospitajllerb.— I should
be much obliged to any corre,'*pondent who will
t^O me the distinctive symbols or badges of the
Templars and Hospitallers, Did not a change
take place in that (or those) of the Templars \
T. W. Webb.
•* Mr. Fry, te Ki:ng's Coal Porter.-' — I haT
a miniature portrait in water-oolours, on
inscribed in pencil lis above. It represents a mad
with aquiline nose, blue eyes, and deep hcdlows i
his cheek. As the face is in profile, one cheek onl|
can be seen. He has a blue e«at, red waistcoati
and white neckerchief. Was this man a celebrity?
W, H. Pattersox*
** Haroun Alompra, or the Hunter Chief/
— Who is the author of this drama, acted at Pori
mouth Theatre, April 19, 18241 He is said
have been a lit-erary gentleman of Portsmouth, i
'' kmght of the hincet.*^ R, Inolis.
Col. Valentine Wauton. — What wb«
name of the father of Col Valentine Wauioo, \
Walton, the regicide ?
Is anything known of the present whereabout!
of the manuscript of the History of fht Cttnl Wan
which Valentine Walton is said, by Heame, to
have written (Heame's Diary, 2nd edit., iii, 108)?|
OoRJfUB.
Sandwich Islands. — Wanted the date of bu
and death of the lute Princess Victoria Kamamahi;
sister of the two former kings, Kamehameha IV J
and V. J NO. A. Fowler.
" GrpsT QrEEN.'^— Who is the composer of i
GipsTf Quetn, m whlvh ike wonis ** Ride forth, rid
forth, ye rolling thunders of the night *^ occur I
Carmenl
Domingo GoNSALEa* — Is the authorship know
of a curious fiction (of which I have a copy of ih
Bec:*nd edit., printed 1768), entitled Th^^. ^Stranff
Voyage a7id A(h:entur(ia of Dmningo Gorvnalet (
the ffVW in the Moon f D. A,
"KIKE" IN CHAUCER.
{5^ S. ii. 41,)
The amount of learned ingenuity which
been expended in mystilication of the clear and
explanation of the simple is perfectly amnzii
An eminent instance of this occurs in the retuarfe
of Mr. H. H. Gibus on the word hike in Chaucet!
To ordinary readers, the passage in the HV/V oj|
Both's Tak presents no difficulty. The knighti
errant is sent forth by the Queen to ascertain^ o^
pain of death, within " a twelvemonth and a dayij
*• What thing it is that women most desiren.'
In answer to his inquiries, he receives the mo
cfkntlicting opinions ; but, by the aid of a witch (
fairy, he ultimately solves the question
factorily : —
" Women detiren to bin BoveruinetAe
As well over hir huiboud a« hir Iot»,
And for to ben in inaidtrie him above,*
NOTES AND QUERIES.
HI
I
This I§ ihfi kej to all the illiistmtroDs of femsile
chAroct4>r in the* iyifit of JJatfii Tak, and will
motcruiJty aid iq the expknution of any doubtfal
piummgiBA^ if euch there be.
The vajioijB fominine proclivities are treated in
•P|idUtU« panigr^phs, beginning ^^ Some saiden'*
tbiSi tbdit, and the other. One paragraph is de-
voted to women's lore of flattery, to which succeeds
another on their propensity to have their own way,
indopendent of reproof. Mr. Gibbs takes lialf of
the farmer para^aph, and reads it as if it belonged
to the ktt4;r, with which it ha« no manner of con-
nexioHt and thu$ imports a factitious meaninf?
into whttt ia atmightforward and easy if taken by
it0cl£ It is necesaarj to quote the whole para-
g»pli:—
" And lome mpn saldeti, thiit we Icrren b«it
For to be free, vid do right ns at le«t,
And tb&t no nmn repreve u» of our rice,
Eot tsy thmi we ben wise Rod nothing nice*
For trewelv ther n'is non of ui all,
If any wij^lii wnl claw na on the gtUl,
That we n 11) tiie, for that be eaith us ooth :
AMay^ and he thai find it that bo doth.
For be we nerer bo ricioufi witbinne.
We wol be holden wiie, and dene of sitine."
Hit meaning of the panage aurely lies on the
ntcfiioe The reference is sunihir to that in
HamUt : —
' •• It touches U8 not,
Let the galled jade wince \ our withers are unwrung."
Golly Fr. ^afe, is a sore place, a scab, a Riw ;
when this is touched, or " clawed," the jade will
irijic** and kick. So says our text ; the woman^
wbi ition is daimd in a sore pliu^
mc- ly will huh. Let any one tiy, and
he &h'Ui rnKi it that so dotL
The application m so obvious, that very powerful
reasooi would be required for giving any other
interpretation.
Mr. Gibbs «iy«, " Kikf (or hjkt) is evidently
the tuodeni kuk, meaning to peep or look ....
m huk signifying a stolen glance/' Subsequently
ht uiieipret« it as looking pleiiaed, aod so applies
ii in the passage in question. Kfeking^ then,
wxittid be equivalent to ogling or leering. Let us
see how thi* view is borne out by the evidence.
He 9tky»j *^Our Irvdt, with it^ short t\ would seem
la r«<}iiir<» a form kikktn in Early English ; but
the t m kike is long, like the Ae in kuk,^' Why so?
Hie p<rofody of the line —
•• That we a ill tile for he teitb us Booth/'
fN[nlre« the final e in kike to be sounded. It will
tie fcmnd that the short i suits the measure much
better than the long.
T -ts have searched a long way round
foi ition which lay all the time at their
Tt-r There can be no doubt that it is
d^i\ 1 r in Cymric tieiaii\ t-o kick, from ciV, the
loot
Tb« old Kagliftb word ke^k^ kttk, or hjkty is now
princijially confined to the Scottish, It is of Low
German or Scandinavian origin, Dan, kige, Swcd.
kiki\ Dutch kijken, Flemish JbJc^cH, allied, no doubts
with High Ger. gitckcn^ pli having the primary
meaning of the English word ** peep,*' — as Jamie-
son expkinB it, *' to look with a prying eye/' ** to
spy narrowly," "to look by stealth,** as in the follow*
ing examples : —
"By double way take kepe
First for thyn owoe ettate to l^ke.^*
Gower, Can/, A mantti,
" Then euld I cost me to keik in kirk and in market*^
Dunbar.
**Keek into the draw well^
Janet^ Janet,
There ye 'U see yer pretty eel,
My jo Janet''
Old Scotch Song.
** Conceal yoursel as weel -t ye can
Prao critical disgection,
But leel: thro' every other man
Wr Abarpened, sly inapection.**
Bama'i MputU to a Fating Friend.
A ke^king-ginsSy a looking-^lass ; a ^^il'-hole, li
peep-hole. The same meaning will be found uni-
forniJy adopted by Chaucer : —
** This Nicholai eat ever gaping upright
Aa be hod kvkid on the newe moonc.'*
MiU€r*i Tale, 3445.
" loto the roof they kyken and they gape.**
Mttl€r'9Tat«,3ML
In none of these, nor in any other passage, can I
find the least tiuce of the sense of ogling or look-
ing pleased, Katber the reverse ; the feeling of
anxious gazing. Jamie&on, it in true, gives us a
secondary meaning of keek, **t.o take a stolen
glance ^ ; but stolen glances fire not necessjArily
amatory nor cheerful ; in the great majority oif
cases they are the reverse,
I cannot help, therefore, coming to the con-
clusion that the proposed emendation is forced
and unnatural^ and is not sustained by the reasons
brought for^^anl in its defence. J. A, Pictok,
Sandyknowc, Warertroe.
I am much surprbed nt the extraordinary mean-
ing assigned by IMr, Gibbs to the word kike in
Chaucer, It simply me^ns to kick^ and nothing
else. The mistake hai* ari^n from mistaking the
whole drift of the passage. What the Wife of
Bath really wiys is thii* : ** Some said, that we are
most eased in our hearts when we are flattered and
praised. And I will not deny that such a one
comes very near to the truth. A man will beat
win us by flattery ; and by attention and constant
waiting upon we are all alike caught, both the
greatest and the least of us." So far we have ons
opinion ; bat we are next introduced to an opinion
of a totally diflerent cbanictor. The good hidy
goes on to say : " And somt said, that we like best
to be free, and to do just whatever we please ; and
that no one ought to reptovci xaiot m\^ lax!i.V»\»LV
119
NOTES AND QUEkI
p*ftILAiro,S/W
ought to say that we are always wise, and never
fooliah. For tnily there ia not one of iis all, but
— if any one mbs us upon the &ore placn — will be
sure to' kickj merely buciiaso he dares to say the
truth* Try it, and he who does so will fi_nd it as
I sii}\ For ho we vex vicious we are at heart, we
like to be considered prudent and free fipoin sin."
How tbia passage can be forced into any other
ineaninjT, I do not understand. On the one hand,
women are aaid to be pleased with untrue tlattery;
|On the other, they are displeased with unflattaring
'truth* The one they receive with jjraciousiiesa
And smiles, the other they kick at and resent.
The word kike^ to kick, is in Wiclifs Bible,
Acts ix. 5 ] with a pait tense kikid^ Beut, xxxiu 15 ;
and a past tenae plond kikidimy 2 Kings yi. 6.
Thut Chaucer also employs the word in the diJTerent
sense of to p^cp, is, of course, granted ; but how
the sense of puplng can have any place here, 1 do
not see. We have no smthority for niaking it
signify to look vdth approi^al; it b tin ply means to
[peep, gaze, or look about seaixhingly without
either approval or diaapprovaJ, Surely, too, the
galled jade winces, not poe^ about.
Walter W. Skeat.
Cambridge.
"POVKRTT PARTS GOOD COMPACT** (5"^ S. h
2880 — This forms the last line of the eighth verse
i>f that rare old Gkucestershire baUiwl, George
Jiiflkfis Oi'^en; and us it is good enough to be more
^ widely known, although printed in HidliweJl's
Froi\ and Arch. Dtc/., and in Dr. Latbani'sj Eng-
Uak Langtiage^ vol. ii., it would, 1 am sure, please
the taste of many of your renders to see it given
at length in "N. & Q./" where it would be in
keeprng with similar bnliad litemture to which
you have already acconled space. It is remarkable
that a society of charita I lie aiui^ called the ** Glouces-
tershire Society," meet annuidly at the White
Lion Hotel, in Bristol, where it« meinbera dine
together, and retain the custom of Hinging this
song of Omrgc li idler's Orm directly after the
removal of the cloth. I shoidd like to know the
on gin of the society, and the date of the song,
which they thus so pleasantly perpetuate. —
"GEOMtf ElDLER'S OVEN.
1.
The Btowni that built Georce Ridler's Oven,
And Ihany geum from the Bteokeney's quor;
And Geor^se lie wur n jolly old nion,
And his yead it gmw'd above his yarc.
One thing of Genrge Ridlor I rautt commend^
And thftt if»ure not a notablo theng ;
He niQud bii brA^^ ftvoore he died,
We any dree brothers hiM zona I'hou^d zeng.
3.
There's Dick the treble and John the meao.
Let every nion zin< in hia au\ni pkoce ;
And Cieorgc he war tbc older brothfcr^
And thcrevoor« he would ling the beosf.
Mine hotfcoft^a moid (ftod her neniiiii *twnr ^eU)
A prcttv wenoh anrj I lov'd Iter well ;
I li>v'd htr well, good reaoioa why;
Because »be lot'd my dog and L
3(y dog lA good to cftteh a hen^
A duck or goose is rood for mtin ;
And where good ootnpnny I soy,
0 ihethergwoes my aog and I.
My rn ' I I whou I wur yonngji
If I di 10 strong beer pwoot»
That <..w-.« ... .*id pruT my xuverdronry
And meauk me wov a threitd-bara owoiU.
7.
My dog has gotten zHcb a trick.
To visit moids when thauy be xick :
When tbaoy be zick and like to die,
O tliether gwoei my dog and I.
8.
When I have dree zispenees under mj ihumbi
O then I be weleotne wherever I oome ;
liut when I have none, O then I pMt bf,
'Tls poverty pe&rts good company.
9.
If I tbould die, as it mav hap«
My groauve shall be under the goodyeftl i
In rouled carms there wool ui lit^
Cheek by juwl my dog aiid L"'
Churchdown.
F, a
" When my o'erlay was white as the foara on the Umif^
And my pouches were eliukiu' wi' siller wUhin ;
When my lambkuiB were blcatin' on meadow an* bi
As 1 hied to my sweetheart, I snog a' the way :
Kind was &be, an* my freens they were free,
Bat Poverty puirts guid company !
We met at the fair, and we met at the kirk.
Wo met i' the sunshine, we met V the mirk :
And the a^mnd o' her voice, an* the blink o' her e*««
Seemed a Pjiradise opened for ever to me !
Leaves frae the tree* at Marti'mas ilee,
Aud Poverty pairts gold company !
Wharever I gaed^ the blythe lasses smiled sweety
An' mlthert an' aanties were mair than discreet;
While kebbuok an' becker were »et on the boskrd;
But noo thejr pass by me, on' never a word !
8ne 1st It be, — for the warldly an' she
Wi' Poverty keep nac coropimio ! "
A, T.
Bunfermliue.
This Bong is in Allan Cunninghu»u'« *Songi^
ScMlajtd, i 33i>* It is called '' Todlen Ham
and begins —
" When I hae eaxpenee under my thumb.'*
According to Cunuingham, it is uot luodem, hm
vcrj' old, 0. F. S. WAAaKN, M.A.
This song was first inserted in an nnnuoli a
ship's Offering, Stkphk.v Jackbom
A CtTRious Relic of Old Calcutta (a^ |
i. 4600 — T*>*^ second verse in thi« Teiy
C« 8.11. Ana. 8k7«.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
113
intcraiiing haUiwl-epiUiph probably refers to
rawnMDd't earliest recollections of some locai
Dier between the Koundheada and RoyalisU
(tlie Iftit days of Cromwell, when the country
t in a disturbed state, and Hucb collisions were
[jucnt. **An Ashbumhttm ! '^ ** A Fairfax!"
Woild naturally be the war-cries of the different
bctiooF, even if these two leaders were not actually
prreeent, A^hburnhom (John) being one of Ohtirles
Ub moat devoted adbereota and followers, and Fair-
lut being the great Parliamentary leader. From the
POffding of reifie 2, I ahoald infer that J, Towns-
md was not himaelf engaged In the fray described,
^ he ia sappo«ed, when dying, to refer to
^ early recollectioa : —
*' H»rk how the Corflleti ring !
f are the Blackamiths out to-day^ b«atijig thoae mea
i th« fpring ! " ^c.
The ailuisiona to Fairlight Church and Fairlight
in the next verse point to Sussex and the
*{id of Hastings as the scene of Joseph
early recollections. The Aahbum-
un ancient and distingtiiahed Sussex
h makes it all the more probable that
joumham "' would be the representative
L of the Royalist party in that district.
abmnoes of the skirmish in verse 1 pro-
diKTibe an event which happened many
before the seizure of J. Townsend by the
verae 2, immediately before his in-
I marriage. No doubt ver^e 3 describes (as
^our eomepondent suggests) the rescne of two
widows from the funeral pile — one of
[ infer became the " nut-brown bride " of J-
t and the mother of " Young Joe," who
r 60 ^' at the time of hia father's death
i 86. LiNDIS.
^S. Jo«*eph Townsend died in 1738, aged 86.
riljinh. Ho was therefore born several years
II of Mara ton Moor and Naseby
and one year after the battle of
. His earliest recollections could^
t^t ' of the loctil skirmishes following
^ iu variouA parts of Enghuid.
BoSTXT HotisE OF Aiblie" (5»"> S. ii. 28.
I beg the Editor kindly to giant me a
apace in his valuable pages ] I am aa
puzzled as ever, though in a different way.
own I had forgotten, when I wrote my
the destruction of Airlie Castle took
ft Montrose's rupture with the Cove-
I \d ignorance of the fact, but
iy ' 'ly forjjot it. Of course, as
[whom 1 !'► - Miani for his kind reply)
aie, it V, I I Ih- quite natural to iind
ftji'' '• '' iji._' tit lyt J^.t.-t I'njHir^nt
oi ' lUa 1 l:iu:im| fL'.ti'-i'' the
ef Ar^'ie s (Statement, that " fh*^ nt'tl wan
§nppCfUd by Montrose,'' with Hpoldingi
account, nor with iboee quoted by Mr. Mark
Napier, in a note to Montran and the CovmaTUert,
as follows : —
"Biihop Guthrie recordft that, in the 3rearl640* Argyte
per»uted in destroying the hoa»e of Airlie, with wham
lie wiM at personul feud^ id though Montrose had put a
garrison Into it^ and hbd written to Argyle to that effect."
James Gordon, in his MS., has this account :—
" Thus far is certain, that .... Montrose, with a
party, was the first who besieged Airlie, and left the
prosecution of it to Arjryle, who," A'c. Here follow
Arigyle^s atrocities. The passages I have omitted
contain merely a discussion whether the right diito
of these events is, 1639 or 1641).
If the- Duke really meant no more tluin this, I
cannot see why be should have spoken of it a^ a
new and accidental discovery, when it was all to
he found in Spalding and Guthrie, and more easily
in Napier. Still less can I underatand how he
could have called this *' actively supporting the
raid.'* According to Guthrie, Montrose w;w
directly opposed to it ; according to Spalding and
Gordon, he had nothing to do with it, but his own
proceedings against Airlie had been distinct from
ArgyleX and quite different from themr-'«
different as the cbarsurtei^ of the two men. Still,
perhaps thL^ is all that was meant, and I have in-
tortjreted a passage in a playful speech too literally
and seriously. If so, mj^ excuse m my dcMre
for historical infonnation, and my ten] for the
memory of one, the details of whose career, I
firmly believe, have no need to fear the strongest
light. M. L.
**TiiB Althortk PicraRE Gallbut": -Mart
J. JouRDAN (5*^ S. I 348, 435, 516 ; ii. 70.)— I
wish to add a few particulars to Mn. Mason's
accx>unt of thtf -Juunlan family, which may interest
him and (iLrnAtt Hamst. The " weaver," Jolin
Jourdau, was the grandson of Anthony Jourdao,
of Toulouse, who was one of the band of noble
refugees who sacrificed their property and their
natiomd ties for the sake of religion and con-
science, at the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes.
Many of thens established themselves in the silk
trade, in consequence of their connexions in the
South of France, Amon^ these was John Jourdan^
who, in partnership with Mr. D'Albiac (grandfather
of the Duchess of Roxhurfrh), carried on the busi-
ness of a ailk'Weaver in i^pitalfielda. Hia wife,
Susjinna, was the third daujfhter of John Jacob
Zornlin (my grandfather), of the finu of Battier &
Zovnlin, who ranked very high among the English
merchants of the last century.
Colonel Jourdan was married early in the year
1S15, in Java, where he held a high official ap-
S^intment. Borne of his children died young,
enry Francis Holcombe wn* the first who attained
maturity. The amiorifd bearing^ of lU\^ Jci\«A3&.\k
(or Jourdnin) familT ate — ^\e%, % etos* ^v\i«^ ^'i
114
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[5*S.11,Ato.«,74
crest, a mailed anu em bowed, holding a cutksa*
It is Dot in my power to j^ve any infonnation
respeetmg Mjiry J. Jourdan, except thut she was
the daughter of Colonel Mokombt^ not Haloombe.
2. Z.
TURQDET DE M AT ERNE (5^ S. H 48.) — Ifl thia,
or TuiNftiet Mayerne, the real name t It appea,ra,
1 believe J in the latter form in a volume of hia
works in the British Museum Libmrv.
T. W. Webb.
To Proat (5*^ S. ii. 49.)— To proat is the G.
protttHj to show one's ill will or displeasure by a
surly silence. — Kiittner* A somewhat ditfei^nt
form of the word is given by Hnlliwell^ " Prutttn,
to be proud, to hold up the head with pride and
disdain." The origin of the foregoing, as well an
of the CI. trotzen, is to be found in the interjection
of displeasure, prut ! trut I representing a blurt
of the mouth with the protruded lip«. See Pout in
my Dictionary. H. Wjsdowood.
Hiilliwell has pride, " to wander about like a
young ehild/- and this, 1 take it, is a f«rui of the
word for which F. H. inquires. W. T. M.
8biii3e1d Gro?€.
Mart of Buttermeue (G*^ S. I 47.) — In
"N. & qj' !•' S. viii. 26, under the heading of
"GossippiDg Hisjtory/' ia ti note of mine on De
Quincey'fl account of Hatfield. I have nothing
to add or alter, but wisti to withdraw an opinion
too hastily fomied. I said, "I do not blame Mr.
De Quincey, having no doubt that he believed
what he was toid.'' When I MnAe that 1 was
Ttading the Boston edition of his works. Long
before I came to the end I felt thut the compliment
waa entirely undeaer^'ed, for which, I think, satis-
ifactoiT reaaons are given in " Leslie and Dr.
r^iddleton/' 1*» S. X. 33. H. B, C.
U. U. Club.
Alderwan Joun Poeter (S**^ S, ii. 67) was
MP. for Evesham in pait of one Parliamentj vi?..,
from the general election of 1754 until his death,
[April 11, 1750. Alfred B. Beaven, M.A.
rreston.
AUibone, in his Dictionary^ savs that Sir James
Porter died at Bath. C. F, S. Warren, M.A.
Toe Ftndern Monument in Childrey
CiiLitcn (5^1* S. ii, C8.)-P. wdl find a descrip-
tion of the Fynderne brasses, with a copy of the
inscriptionB on them, in Ashniole^s Btrh(^ vol. ii.,
pp. 20H, 2(H}, and 210, of the edition of 1711) :
al^jn Chu'ke's Hundred of Wanlintj, pp. 7(1
aiicr77. C. J. Eystok.
See Eelton'a Skdchu of C7ittrr/*<s«, London,
1843, for a plate and full descn^tion in the
Hccompiiuying text. It in a hnwa of a peenlinr
character, the crosses of the figures being filled witj
lead. The figure of Sir William Fynderne to
knees is in Boutell's BroMes antl SlahA^ p.
London, 1847. A description of the monumeil
wiJl also be found in the Oxford Manual, NJ
168, p. 61. SiAMUKL Shaw.
The Willow Pattern (5*»» S. ii. 60.)— S«ct
Family Friend (Houlston k Stoneman, Ijondoo
vol i. p, 124. H. FisHwicE, F.S.A. '
Vide Benil^y'^i Miscdlany, vol iii„ p. 61, pu
llshed in 1838, where will be found "A Tn
History of the Celebrated Wedgwood Hieroglyp
commoidy called the WiUow Pattern," by Ma
Lemon. WiLLiAii WlNU.
Steeple Aston^ Oi^ord.
Histort of ScoTULNn (5**' S, ii. 6ft.)-
Ma. Ma SOX, who i» goo<i enough to apf>ea1 to i
as to this work, will turn to that admirable Cd
lo^ue of the Printed Books in tht Adm
Library, now printing, on p. 680 of vol. iL he ^
find that William Dull', M.A., waa the author i
the work he inquires for. See also Lowndes '
Bohn, p. 2215. Allibone mentions an edition of
1750, probably after Watt, to whose Bihiiothica ^
amnofc refer here. I take thin opportunity ~
thanking Ma, Mason for Ixia reply on p. 70.
Olfoaji Hamst,
New Bimet^ Utris.
^'LiKE** AS A Conjunction (5^^ S, I 67, 111
157, 176, 237,498; ii, 97.)— I am surprised f
Mr. Furmvall cannot see, in the jm^^
quote-s from Henry VII I. ^ that the | ^
which goveniB the you is understood : —
** Not a ni&n in England
Clin adrisc me liko [nHto] you."
It is a parallel paasage to that whicb I
quoted from the same play :—
" Said I for this the girl wiua lilce to hi
So in the passage from Pmc/<**f,* —
" And knowing this kingdom i« witboat a head.
Like [untQ or tu] goodly buildings left without n
In Cowden Clarke's Concordance thexe is a refei
Tan^mf, Act i. bc 2, " like to a nymph.*^ In
only Shabq^mre that I can refer to, being a^
fn>ni home, I find the to h omitted, *' Enter Arji
like a water nymph." To what edition did
writer of the Coivcordanct refer I Clariit*
**HuDiBRAs^^ (51*" S. i. 489: 5t"» S. ii 3^.>
The Rev. Dr. T. R. Nash, in his edition of HuJ
hrm (1835), remarks in a note to these lin«s f
559-5G2, Part I. canto i.) :—
"Thu« Clcvfiland, pApc HO, *Tho next intrrr(!i'«nf I
a diufnalis plots, horribb plots, mhich wiM
Mgocity it hunts dry foot, while they are i
causes, before materia prima can put on herMnor*
Nichols (LiUrary Illtuh-atiom, edition 182
**8.11. 4li«.S>74]
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
115
ToL ir. p. 246) gives a letter from the Rev, Mon-
tnini Bacon to Dr. Zachary Grey on the same
eiibj<yrt : —
**B««irord, Aug. 31,1746.
^ Bev. Sir,— Going by tbis way, I send you thi» i&luta-
tkn. I »m much ppe*Bcd in tny jyurney, othenviic I
might p«rhftp4 venture to caU upon you. I eend you a
pAMAgv from Regnier (Sat. 1<J), the fftinoua rrencb
tfttiriftt, whom, I am sure, Butler bad read.
** I anil rev. Sir, your moit obedient bumble aerrant,
" M. lUvam.
** 'Qu'mi ttm Globe il « reu bi mAtiere premiere.'
^ ''8o BudlbrM aayi,
' Firat matter be bod seen uodreia't,
B«foro one rag of form waa on,*
" B^^ier deikcnbcA his pedant so.
"So llilton {Far. Lost, hook 7) detcribea Light at fint,
«a
'dphear'd in a radiant cloud (for yet the sun wna not).'"
In a very rare iittk' book, Note^ itpon Hndibras,
by Zachary Grey, LL.D., 1752, there is a note
{p. 23), timed M. B. (Montagu Bacon), which after
quoting the above line from llegnier gontmuea:^ —
"And 'ti§ manifeit, from tbo Context, that Butltr
meaiu only a Ridicule on tbe Utrtnelick QiJbbtTukf wbere
there i« mucb Talk of Fini Matter, and Cha4u, and
F%r*t MaUf and iticb Stuff: And by fHr$i Matter tbev
miill Materia and Forma ; whicb appears from a Book
«ttlillid A tkoTi Ihquirif into tAe Jfrrmtttck Artf P. 79."
The lines, then, are not ^* stipposcd to pomt to a
iicuUir individual,'' but are "only a Ridicule
io the Hermetick Gibberish."
Sparks Hendebsok Williams.
18. Keoun^oQ Crefcent, W.
I OQ t
Siv,;r,i.- Fve^Glasses (5«» S. i. 489; il 50,)—
what E. D. F. says. I have used a
ji ft eye only for about twenty years,
1 now Hnd that in shooting I invariably fire too
' 1 to the lefL I have tried to counteract it by
ling the left eye, at the reooumiendatioD of an
ent gunmaker^ and as that is very difiicult
lys to do, he now reeommendB me to blacken
L iIm left gkss of my shooting speetpacles,— we shall
rith what result. Black Eye.
ZlKXAV Street ip^ S, ii. 9, 53.)— A Reatling
|rtMd*-Book flays tliat " Zinzan Street most pro-
hM^ .»-«.'-. its name from Dr. Zinzani^ a gentle-
I extraction, who had a residence in
_L — a_.^, i firing the laat century."
H. JL Kenxedt.
'\Y or TUEiH Times" (5** S. I 408;
k that is often priced according to
I it at the «alea of famous colIection» ;
uiwdly to l>e had at iu proper value.
cost me u few shillings. The same
riiy in pn^ne as is iu D. G. E/b copy
'' I take to be i - ' t
r»g the book >i
J jji <_i«j>i|ninion volume jitumi. »Mf
Uodtm< ProttMtAifit iHviufM la of far greater nurity,
but I have seen it on sale at much less priees than
those named by Mb. Bccklet, the copy in my
possession having Wen bought for about one-fifth
of the sum. It appears to have been acquired by
Mr, Mitford in 18i4, and he has added the dat©
when he read it, vix., **Sept. 1836,'* with the note,
" See Brit, Bibliog,, vol I p. 47 S." The engraved
front, has been most cleverly imitated by pen and
ink. J. E. Bailet.
SoNOfl IS **Rokeby" (5** S. I 428, 515.)—
Writing my fonner note on this subject hurriedly,
I omitted from it the moat beautiful of the songs: —
" 0 Brignall banks are wild and fair,
And Greta woods are green ;
And you may gather garlands there
Would grace a summer queen.''
Canto iii. ituixa 1^
John Pickford, M.A.
Kntoht Biorn : DifREE's ETcHiKog (5^ S. I
167, 215, 356,) — I suppose the ** snare " mentioned
by Mr. Holt and Mr. Addis in the ** Knight
and Death " is the curious twisted line near the
hoof of the horse's off hind leg. I have the auto-
type of the etching before me, and believe that
Mn Runkin and Mr. Addis have undoubtedly
explained it. I think the readers of " N. & Q?
would be gbd to have the picture in rjnestion and
the MiUticoliaj its companion, interpreted on Mr.
Addis's theory by that gentleman. The one
seems to me the type of **The Steadfast Wiiy
the Melmcolia of " The Intermittent, too versatile
Will,** — tendencies to which latter the artist, if
he were not more Ihaa human, must have felt and
deplored in himself. Pelaoius.
Field-Lore : Carr, Ino, &c. (4'** S. xi. xii. ;
5'^ S. Lpaanm; ii, 71,) — M. inquires what is the
meaning of Flagfi^ and suggests it may be re-
claimed bog. In this parish, there is a marshy
place in the bills known as the Flush- mow, in
which peats were formerly c^ist^ but it ha3 been
surface- drained, and is now grazed by sheep.
There is a farm of the same name near Stewruton
in Ayrshire, and the name Flofh occurs as the de-
signation of two or three pUices in Annandale.
Halliwell (fifth edition) has FlmchCj *'a pit or
pool " ; but, in the old English couplet quoted as
an example, the word will apply equally well to a
marnh. See, too, Flnsh, Floih,
I\at hag^ also mentioned by ^L, is a common
term here for the hollows made by casting peat.
Another name applied here to marshy places is
coflru^ which appears to be the same as carsc, and
to have some connexion with carr, W. E.
Riilewater, Roxburghshirt.
**8iTiTATK" (5"» S. 1. 407; ii. 53,)— SioMA aska,
*'^ Are there any examples of the Uise of the word »»
a verb by any respectable writer T* Iipl ^jni\
Labowr*$ Lo^^ Act i. ac. ^, XimtsAo wbcj^^ —
J
116
NOTES AND QUERIES.
'( I will TiBLt thee mi the lodge.
Jarj. ThRt'a hereby.
Arm. I know where it ia situate/*
Again, Com4dif of Errors^ Act ii. sc. 1, Lucianft
sajra, — -
*♦ Wby, headstrong libertr is tash'd with woe.
Tbr're 's notbing aituatc under HeaTen*B eyv
But hath hLs boond/'
I Bhould be glad to know whether grammariaUB
won Id call "situate" in tliese two pru^t^iges an
adjrctivc. H. B. Purton.
Weobley.
Faixonet, the Aetist (5*^ S. ii. 8^ 54.) — Mn*
TkiMMEa will find Bome interesting and mithentic
facts about the Falconets in Jal*6 IHctionnaire
CHtique de Biographic ti tVRistoiri. See the
Kecond editionj and refer also to the corrections at
the end of the voluni«* Olphar Hamst.
INVERTED Commas (5^ S. i. ptutnm ; ii 37, &6,
97r) — I differ very much from Jabez. I have
proved (from Timperly) that these marks were
originally used (1496) for the purpose of quotation
only. Other writers have shown that tliey were
afu^rwivrds employed for emphagixiog aho, but not
befui'e the time of Queen Elizabeth ; and when they
cejued to be used in this latter way, Ym» not been
decided.
As to the *^ modern instance " from tlie Tim£M^
it is ({uite clear that the word ** accomplished " is
not used there according- to its real meaning, but
aocording to its misapplication ; and it is therefore
quok'd in this sense, and marked accordingly.
MsuwBia.
Ohahles L as a Poet (b^ B. I 322, 379, 435;
ii. 93.)— Before this subject ia dismisfled, I would
he^ leAve to auote a possa^ ficom the late Pro-
fessor Craik's LikratuTe and Learning in-England^
ed. 1845, vol iv. p. 66:—
'' It ia not easy to understand the meftninc^ of Horace
Wal|iole'a judKinent on Charlea'e fityle* that *it «m4»
formed bitwt^n a certain portion of ieiuf, diffuit^, and
perfmps a little injtinetriitj.' What he ray a of a co^iy of
vcrrcs Raid to bare been "written by hia mjijesty during
hlH cnndnenaent in Cafi.^brook Castle, is more to the
pur|ki>8e : * Thepo€trjfU m&st »ncotit/t and inharmonious;
but tfare arc strong ihov^kh t« if, #omf ^ood tense, and a
Mtrain. of majeittic pieti/.^ Though uot very polished,
iideed, or very like the ppodaction of a pructiscd versifier,
vbich goei so far to forniish a preaamption of its authtin-
ticity. tbia coniposition. which is entitled ' MajeKiy in
Miftrry, or an hnploraiiou to the King of Kingi,' mdi-
calei pnet^c feeling, and an evident familiarity with the
hi^be«t models. "
The ahove quotations from Horace Walpole are
out of his Koyal and Noble Authors. J. W. W.
Key. Stephen Cuauke (S^ S. i. 208, 255, 298,
438; ii. 77.)~PtT»vincial printing if a subject that
has diiinied my attention for a year or two pasi^
\)ut I ha ye at present failed to discover an earlier
3j)ccimen of Mai ton printing than a tract quoted
by Archde.aoon Cotton in his Typo^phical Ca
Uitr, of whicb the following is a collation : —
^'Modest and Candid Retlections on Dr. Mtddleton'i
Examination of the Right Reverend the Lord Biibap ef'
London'^ Use and Intent of Prophecy : In a Letter t>
the Honourable O. Lyttelton, Eaq., from Thomas Cob-
bor, A^.
** Matton : Printed by J. N. for Mesara. Eti
Book sell er^i in St. Paul't Cburoh yard, m^scc^u
One 8liillin^ and Six-pence.! 12niOw pp. 100.
from Eaat-Newton, Feb. 3d, 1750."
The second edition of Rev. BteinbeiQ
£>ijfcour««, being postlmiaous, may be as late
later than this : it is certainly after 1746, for
that year I find Mr. Clarke hubacribing ll Ot. 1
the Yorkshire Astsociation.
Mr. RoViei't Bavies, in his Memoirt of the York
Prcfiity tells us that Nicholas Nickson* priiit4»r, I
came a freeman of York by patrimony in 17*
and carried on business till 1777. What relatifll
was he, if any, to Joshua Nickson, of Mai ton f
W* H. A1.LKUTT.
Oxford,
Rev. Samuel Hardi% B.A- (5*^ S. iL
55), the author of many astronomical and
logicjil works, was bom in 172(>, and
a Fellow of Emanuel College-, Canibridjfre.
a sermon of his, entitled The E ' ■ ' ' protfi
io he a MtUerial Sacrijux; an
of CoTtstant Covirnvnion ; proved ft ^fi^ <"' N^it
of ilu ChriMian Coreyiani, pretwibed on " Go
Friday, April the 8th, 1748,'* I find he
then *' Curate of L^yhamJ^ He was afterwan
Rector of Blakenham Parva, Suffolk, and '.
and Master of the Fre-e School at
His moat important work seems to ba-f
an edition of the New Teetajiient,
Bcholiifi Theologicis et Philolopcis," pufc
anonymously in 1768, and a^in in 1778. A tliil
edition appeared in 182t>. He died in 1793.
Spares Hendersok Whjuaio.
18t Kensingrton Croiceat, W.
In my copy of the Account of the Nahirc nud
E7uh of the 'Eoly Encharifit:, 12mo.^ Htja, I fi^
the following, in the handwriting of llie "
Wm. Lajlon, fifty years rector of St. Haiti
I|>s\vich : —
" Hardy, Sam. Etoan. A.B.» 1741; i«ctor of Blake
Parva 17ti4 ; niany year* lecturer and maiter cf the 1
School at Enfield. He died at Tottetibam, Dec. 1 1, 17
aged 73."
On the title of bis book on the Eucharist, be |
said to be curate of St. Clement^s, Ipswich.
believe he was resident in this town many y«
consequently he oomes into my collection of Ip
wich authors. I find I have the following : —
*'An Answer to Mr. Chubba Enquiry concerning At>
demption ; the Substance of Niue Sermons at L^lmii
Suffolk. 8vo. Ipswich, 1744."
" Not. Testamentum Graeenm : ciiin aohollif Tbed*<t
Phil 2 vols. Bvo., 1768."
^aU.Aoa8,7l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
117
** A TniMlAttoo of SeberSfif 'fl Tr&Atife oo the Emen-
ifttt - * 'v rtridil Tdeicofvfs; with ExflooAtory 2i{o4ea.
pie PrtifpheGi«€ : compiired atid explftimd.
Jahes Kea.d.
Ipvwich, SI, CbnhilL
"T ,. OF WiGMORK (f)"* S. L 18S, 234,
3:^ - ; iL 37.:h—The chief object of Mb.
Stu>3:- iQ^Liiry S4?enis to be whence such a ein-
Jar title as Mortimer De Mortuo Marl could
en derived ; an interestiDg quefition, atnd
_ich none of your correspondent baa at-
lf«d to answer, Mr. Ettoit snyi that Ealph
de Slortemer, to whom William I, ffave Cleobury
ftod Wigmore. carae from castle Mortenjon in
Konaftody. How so mimed, I did not atteniprt to
0QcpbiirK i-xcf^nr thnt T iviinti^sl *iiir flint tli»>re was
ftt dueai
f»f«| . ^ ^ I iijrtimer
wiw u scion, and the Kast» Diike Ko>>ert, father of
Williiun, went on a pilgrimage to the Holy Lund,
and died iit Nica?a, in Bithynia ; some of the junior
itietnberB ol* the fornily may have accompanied hinu
The trreat Eiirl Ilo;j:er de Montgomery, another
iiiem>>**r iif the family, woe no exUled from \im
castle of Mont^'omeri, in Norraandy, the mins of
which nrr, I believe^ stUl standing. The name of
ihi« cu-Htlc, lb*' Mount of Gomer^ wxitten in Latin
I I>c Alonte <_romerico, may also have r^tilted
^jrimage. A»ra Minor, where Duke
13 said to have been r>eopled by the
f <;..,.-,,>. tjjQ ^jj (jf Jivpheth, Gaul
li(?ia, one of the provinces.
■-•^ :.^ r-a..,l in ,v 1 .. fanciful and
and J «' if a more
lots rme cv" i , ^ Ltd. I have
Eibout it, and, a short time before I
E^s query, I wrote to " N. & Q./' ask-
j if it wiiv knoim how Mauley or Mawley came
br written in Latin De Mtilo Lacu. This, 1
mu&t have some relation to De Mortuo
Mr. Evton says that the Baton name of
^vrlLV, near Cleobury, waa Melela, and that it
irranted with other manors to the Mortimens
lt!i V Dr. Ainawortb, who was a bit of
«ti - the Latin aynonymB of these
llir«^' pu liivtui'!^, Avit h others, at the end of his hatin
DidtSammy ; and I bive no doubt they are all to
he found tn Latin ohroniclea, though I have only
nmi with Bern ortuomari, William Purtok,
SH Episcopal Skes (fl*** S. ii.
i Haated (History of Ktnt) we
the Arcbbi*<hop«^ of Cunterbuiy
their «eoA a>i ^* dorobemencis
time of the Narman Cdotjooftt,
hi^^ ^aU «Uii;tp, c«n It (Cftfit^rbttry) Portfmrm'a,
0, which M iald to be id uJd atme. Th*
Saxoiw called thia city Ctmi-^arn-hifrtj, iVf,, the Keatfib
men's city. The Lntin^ tifterwrird^ mod<!ttod it to Can-
twanVz, and the EtU£)i»h tci iu precent iiauio of Ciinier-
bttry, by which it bus be«n ta general caJHed, from about
the time of the Normun Conquest.*'
Of the other!», two are quite claar, natnely,
** SciraburnenBis ciritatis,^ and " sclesego eccle«i£B
episcopua/' meaning reapectively, as your corre-
spondent supposes, the Whops of Sherborne End
Selsea,
In Dugdale {MonoKih^oni^ voL i. p, 137, loL
16fi2) wo have an account of certain epineopal se^
founded in the kingdom of Mercia— nve in num-
ber— 4UQon£ which occur the names Ltogora and
Syddma^ which seem in some degree to answer to
ie4foreiiau and gytitUttMi^, but to what towns these
refer I am quite unable to gay. On " dammucft?
civitatifl episcopus/' unless it be Doranoc— Dun-
wich^ I oin throw no light at all. Other readea
better inibmied may do better for your querist.
The document I quote from is headed, —
** Jj£ ponttfiaUi »tdtt guomodo primitut itainia 9U
Wigomaj ; «t di pos*tMi&hibnM tpiet a rt§fbv», tuftrmvI^K
€t <k bonmr^^ttdal lonu Ttru dtita Mtnl W igorzwmi tedMim*
Edmukd Tinv, M«A«
GoDwiT (5**» S. i. 129, 212.)— After having been
80 buffeted by Ma. Tkw and others for my
explanation of Milton's **Grim feature/' I very
humbly venture to su^^gest that as the Knot, the
&liore- companion of the God wit, is undoubtedly
named after Canute, ho the God wit catriea on the
fame of the famous Earl Godwin, of the Goodwin
Sands. Morris {Brit, Bitih) gives ** Godwyn *' as
a synonym of God wit. Pklaoius,
Elizabeth CASfKiwa (5*^ 8. it, 27, 75.) — A good
summary of the chief points of the evidence on
both sides is given in the Gmtlmaanti Ma^asine,
1754.
It is singular that Mr. Paget, who has evidently*
read the aooount in the 8tate Trials moet carefully,
should have overlooked the note at the end of the
volume, in which the date of Canninff^ death is
given. Mr. Paget says {JudiHal Pumm, p. 886),
*' the la^ notice we find of her is contained in tIftB
Annval Regitterfof 1761 "; whereas, in the SUst^
Trxah, he might have seen a reference to the
Gmtlrman'i Magarme for August, 1773 (vol. xliii.
pp. 412, 413), whi'-^ Tiifntiona Cunmng^s death aa
occurring ut " Wt i, in Connecticut, Nortb
Americji," on the ^„i J uly in that year.
By-the-way, the exinict from the Anmial Re-
gistrr^ quoted by Mr. Paget ^ represents that
*' Elizabeth Canning is arrivtd in Englandf and
i6oeived a le^cy of hml, left her thi^e ye^kn «g9
Ijy «& old h^y of Newington Green ^'; whereas tSt
GmiUmum*9 Ma^txxmt «iys, ^In Augost, 17^
she waa sent by her friends to Kew Enghnid, mfcam
ihe ktu resided ever tijuA,^
Ajlfrsd 6. Beayix^ VLk^
Pfcaton.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6*^ a IL Am 8,1*
^cifcrtMIHw*
K0TE9 ON BOOKS, lea
LftUrii adilre^ed to ThomoA Htarne^ M.A,,, of
Edmund Hall, Edited by Frederic Ouvry,
M.A- (London, Privately Printed.)
The late Rev. Joseph Stevenson haviog made
copies of certain letters among the Rawlinson
31 bS. which are preserved in the Bodleian
Library, presented those transcripts to Mr. Ouvry.
This geDtlem&ii, whoee litemiy and antiquarian
taates are well known to all who enjoy his friend-
ahip or have the honour of his acquaintance,
believing that these letters are of considerable
interest, hm^ in liberal spirit, printed them, and
giren copies to his friends.
The collection conaista of fifty-five letters,
extending in date from January, 1705, to
November, 173l>. Among the writers are the
names of Bishop Wilson, Henry DodweO, Hilkiah
Bedford, Dr. Richard Mead, John Anetis, and
George Hcarae. The last was the father of ThoniiLs,
His letters are by far the quaintest in the book.
The old parish clerk had a hard time of it. His
only pride was in the scholarship and the com-
parative success in life of his son^ from whom the
aire oceaaionally asked for the gift of a pair or
two of stockings^ a shirt, and some comfort against
winter.
Thorough Jacobite, sincere and savage Tory as
Hearne was, he was on very good terms with
numerous Whig friends, f^ome of whom apjiear
also to have been on equally good terms with all
who would help them to make life not merely
tolerable, but "joDy." Among the illustrations
of the manners and morals of the day, there is a
striking one in a letter of old George Hearne-s^ in
which he says :— '* At Kerscomb, Squire AJdworth
having invited some Gentlemen to dinner on Bun-
day the 6th of March, which, I think, they naid
was his Birthday, there was, among the rest, Owen
Buckingham, Esq., of Reading ; it so happened
that in the evening Mr. Aid worth and he had
aom words, and went out from the house soni
distance and, they aay, drew, and Mr. Aldworth'a
hard fate was to kill Mr. Buckingham on the
spot." Hospitable dinners and angry dif^putanta
often came to this conclusion. It only remains for
«a to congratulate those who possess copies of this
book through the generosity of the editor.
MacmUtanU Maganiu. No. 178, August. (MacmiUan
& Co.)
Tuis is a capita] number. The Uadmg articlo on "Victor
Hugo*8 Dramaa'* {by Caraille BarT<r«) will please
drarri&tlc reiuleis ceneraUy, and the ghost of Madame d©
S£rign6 in particular; for M. l^n^e spe«k» dia-
para^ngly of Racine, for which wc too mre profound I jr
thankful. For example :—** The tragedies of Hacine
are abtolately dull ; and the few spectator! *BritannicaB'
«in master now-adA7« are thow who nippoee that
Maciue iB juimlrable, and mast, in conaequcnoe, be yawned
netd^l
cefulB
oyer, with due respect to hii great but unfettered ^eniu^
What can be more dreary than the emphaik tirndet or
those pompous and oxtra-humiin persoDages who entwinal
the simplest expresriitYna with pmphraset and cireum-^
locutions, and, insteitd of ' 11 est minoit/ give ui this
cart and neatty put euphemism ?—
' Du haut do ma demeof e,
Seigneur, I'horloge eoSn Bonne la doozieine heare.*
The lines quoted by M. Barr^re rotnind ut of a Ktmlli
stilted passage in Saurin*8 tragedy, Biveritf tlatelj w-j
ferred to byoureioellcnt French coutcmponLry, Vin'
mediairti: —
"C'ertunelettre,
Qa*entre tos maiDSi, Moniieur, Ton ta'a dtt de reuiettre.
M. Barrtjre, in the course of the above article* in»»*
takes Edmund Kcan, " the great English actor/* for hii
sou Charlesi.
Diu Karl Elzr has published, at Despati (Loitd<
Williams k Norgnte), a pretty and, \s * ' nl4,
perfect edition of Rowlej's chroniclohi ' T"
IW Sdi Me, V*.m Know Mf.^ Dr. K , '^'^
Introduction and Notes; and he state* i*f Ikwwley'
play, with its boisterous Henry VIIL, th»t it
aU probability serred i^hake8pea^e as an inducemenl
dramatize the life of Henry V^IIl."' The whole vdai
refiecte the greateit cre-Jit on Dr. Eh« at a
scholar, chronicler, and critic.
Wb have onlv space to make farther record here t/t
Mr, Cornelius firown't Noiu upon NotU (Nottingbai-
Formen). which is a most amusing rolume. and one
be used for reference as well as amusement. To tH>oktl
on London, Mesera. Bemrose hare added a tctj graceful
one» illustrating the history of 8t, Bartholomew'^ l*\'
Church, with pictorial illustrations by 0. I
and last^but not least, Messrs. Ktng&Go.ha«i
the second volume of their handy and handsou.. l-l... •
of Tennyson.
THE DEVELOPMENT OP THE PEES8.
1821—1874.
At the recent Festival of the Printers* Ponaion
Corporation, Mr. Walter spoke of th« early cfTortt
of his father as a printer, and expressed I
that he himself had not been practically i
in the art ; and he referred to the vast inilut^u-.*' oi
machinery in promoting the development of the
press.
The TimeSj as we know, was established in the
year 1788. From the first the question of
luachinery became a study, and improvetnent at
I'ejieated intervals has been the result. Tlio
machinery employed Jifty yean a^, 1824» o'ulil
not give out more than twelve to hfteen hur»*iit'i
copies per hour. The Applegarth, or " mangU? "
machine, introduced, we believe, about the year
1.H30, was a great improvement upon its predecea-
sors, and gave a decided Htimulus to the wd<*.
With the present machinery (the '* Walter "i tlh
«peed is at the rate of twelve thtmsand per li
It was^ however, the fiscal restriction imp'
upon the pres.^ that retarded Ita progresa,
have looked carefully over a copy of the Tifn* i
the l8t of January,' 1824, a small sheet of i
pages only, and have arrived at the conclusion tii a
for that one day*s issue its proprietors paid no l»:*i
^i^tart
m
NOTES AND QUERIES.
119
a sum tlian IBlL in taxes to the State. Xo
mitigiition of these Uwd took place until 1836,
'when the advertisement duty^ the compulsory'
stamp, and the paper duty were all reduced. The
prosperity of the uewspoperB, of course, dates from
that tirne.
In 1824 there were published in the United
Kingtlom 266 papere in all, thus divided: London,
31 ; ill the countiy, 135 ; in Ireland, 58; in Scot-
land, 33 ; in the British Islands, 0. In the present
year the aggregate number is 1,585. Eatimating
the news sheets printed in 1824, we cannot place
the number at more than thirty millions of sheets.
At the present period, we do not doubt that the
issue m sue hundred and fifty millions of sheets
per .annum.
The Post-Office Directory for the year 1824
©Tea the names of 136 master printers in London.
Tlie present year's Directory crives the names of 777.
We subjoin the list of daily piipers:, morning
and evening, published in 1824. The curiousi in
such matters should examine the li^t of weekly
papers issued in London at that period, and also
the lists including the country papers, and for
Trnl^inr]. Bcotland, and the British Islands.
Dailtf,
Ikitiih Press,
MomiDK Advertiser.
Public Ledger*
Chronicle,
Post
■KroeB.
Herald.
New Times.
I
Daily Evtmnt^.
BHtiih Traveller. Star.
Courier. Staklman.
Globe and Traveller. Sun.
From the Athencmm of /tUjf 25.
In continuation of the alx)ve a correspondent
ffives the list of all papers published in the United
Kingdom in the ye&r 1824: —
3fon4a!f.
Fanner't Journal. County Chronicle.
Monday f WfdnekUijf, and Friday,
Mreulng Mail. London Packet.
Tuetday, Thurtdayf and Saturday,
£iiglith Chroiuclo. 8t. James's Chronicle,
Twfday and Saturday.
London Oaxetlc. Hue and Cry^ every 3d week.
• WedntAday,
British Mercury*
Thurtdaif,
Iaw Advertiser. Law Chroniote.
^m Law Gazette.
Hrridi
HSatiL
h
I
Ga-
WteJtly.
jFriday—II&ldwin't Journal. Saturday — Literary
ISaturday—Cobbett's U^&B" 2ette.
tor. „ Museum.
Idtemrj Chronicle. „ WestmiDSterGaiette.
Dispatch.
Engliehman.
Britisij Monitor.
Ohaerver.
BeU*fi Mcjsengcr.
John Bull.
The News.
Kxaminer.
Bcirs Life.
Sunday,
Sundaj Monitor and Ee-
corder.
Ke&l John BulL
Weekly Regiatcr.
t» Gazette.
Sunday Times.
Beming B Ej^preis.
The (juardiaa.
CotKTRY NkWBJ»APBE8 P«J»USHB1> IK 182L
Bath Chronicle.
^ , JoumaL
„ Herald.
f, and Cheltenham Ga*
zette.
Berwick Advertiser.
Birmingham Gazette.
,, Chroaiole.
Blackburn Mail,
,f Journal.
BoUoa Express.
Boston Gazette.
Brighton Herald.
„ Oasette.
,f Chronicle.
Bristol Gazette,
„ JoumaL
», Mirror.
„ Mercury.
„ ObserTor,
Beccles Chronicle.
Bury Post.
^ G«xette.
Cambridge Chronicle.
Cambrian (Smransea).
Ciy-marthen JouruiJ.
Cajliale JoumaL
„ Patriot.
Chelmsford Chronicle*
Gai»!tte.
Cheltenham Chronicle.
Cheater Chronicle.
ff Courant.
„ Guardian.
Colchester Gaxette.
Cornwall Gaxette (Truro).
County Chronicle.
„ Herald.
CoTentry Mercury.
„ Herald.
Cumberland Pacquet.
Derby MercuiT.
„ Reporter
DevizeB Gazette.
Devonshire Freeholder,
DorcUeBter JoumaL
Dorset Chronicle.
Don caster Gazette.
Durham Advertiser.
n Chronicle.
Essex Herald (CbelmAford).
Exeter Flying Post
„ Gaxette.
y, News.
Gloucester Joamal.
,f Herald.
Hampshire Chronicle
(Winch).
Hamp§hlre Telegraph
{Portsmouth).
Ad-
Ad.
Hereford JoumaJ.
Hull Pocket.
♦♦ Advertiser.
,, Rockingham.
Huntingdon Gazette.
Ipswich JoumaJ.
kentish Gazette (Canter-
bury).
Kentish Chronicle (Caater>
Kent Herald (Canterbury).
„ Mercury.
Lancaster Gazette.
Leeds Intelli^nocr.
,, Mercury.
Leeds Independent.
Leicester Journal.
fy Chronicle.
Litch&etd Mercury.
Liverpool General Adver*
tiser.
„ Advertisen
ff Saturday's
Tcrtlser.
,1 Courier.
„ Mercury.
1^ Mercantile
vertiser.
Moccleafield Courier.
Maidstone JoumaL
Gasette.
ManchcBtor Mercury,
,, Herald.
,, Chronicle.
,» Gaxette.
ft Volunteer*
„ Guardian.
Newcastle Courant.
„ Chronicle.
Northampton Mercury,
Norfulk Chronicle.
Norwich Mercury.
Nottingham Journal.
„ Review.
North Wales Gaietie (Ban-
gor).
Ofwestry Herald,
Oxford Journal.
,, Herald.
Plymouth Telegraph.
Plymouth and Dock Jour*
nal.
Pottery Gaxette (Hanky).
Preston Chronicle.
Heading Mercury.
Rochester Gazette.
Sahsbury Journal.
Salopian JoumaL
Shrewsbury Chronicle.
Sheibome Morcory.
120
I^OTES AND QUERTEa
[5*S,n.Apa,l,7i,
Sheffield Iri8.
„ Mercury.
Southamptoti Chronick*
Herald.
Stamford Mercury.
„ News.
SUffon!abire Advertiter.
Stockport Advertuer.
Suffolk Cbroniole (IpRWich).
Sussex Advertiser (Lewes).
„ Chronicle.
Tftunton Courier
WakeSeld Journal,
"Warwick Advertiser.
Guernsey Qaxette. Jcrtey Constitutional.
,f ' Mercury, Manks Advertiser,
,, 8tar. „ 8u«.
Jersey British Press. „ Man.
„ Gazette (Mourant*a).
SOOTCJ] FilPEKS.
Aberdeen Joum*]. Edinburgh Star.
f, Chronicle. „ Weekly Chromcle,
Arbroath Review (Mon- „ Scotsman.
trose). M Observer.
Ayr Advertiser. Fife Herald.
„ and Wigtonshipo Cottt- Obsgow Courier.
Westmoreland Advertiser.
Qaxetie.
West Briton (Truro),
Wjeatcrn fjuniinary.
Weymouth G»xette.
Whitehaven Gazette.
Winrls42ir Express and Bucks
Oaxette.
Wolverhampton Cbroniole.
Worcester Jou rnal.
Herald.
York Counmt,
,, Cbronicla.
ff Herald.
,1 OaKette.
ler.
Cupar ilenild,
Dumfries Journal.
♦♦ Courier.
Dundee Advertiser*
„ Courier,
Edinbmigh Caledonian Mer-
cury.
fp Evening: Courant.
„ Advertiser.
^ G^isctte.
„ Weekly JoumaL
Armaj^h Volunteer.
Athtoue Herald.
Del last Newsletter.
„ Commercial Chro-
uiele.
„ Irishman.
Corloiv Morning Post.
Caran Herald.
Cork Mercantile Chronicle.
„ Advertiser.
„ Conslitutlon.
,j Mercury.
„ Sou them Reporter*
Clare Journal.
Oonmel Herald.
,, Advertiser.
Connaught Advertiser.
Dublin Antidote.
„ Evening Post.
„ Freeman's Journal.
„ Sannder'a Newslet-
ter.
yf Morning Post
„ Correspondent
,, Goietle.
„ Faulkner's Journal.
„ Weekly Freeroan*8,
„ Farmer's Journal.
,, Hibernian Journal.
,^ JKrenJmr Heralds
Her»ld.
'„ Journal-
„ Chronicle.
„ Sentinsl.
Greenock Advertiser,
Inverness Journal.
„ Courier.
Kclso Mail,
,, Weekly Journal,
Montrose Chronicle.
Perth Cuurier.
Stirling JoumaL
Ibihs Pafek9.
Dublin Evening Mall.
Warder.
J, Times,
„ Commercial Gazette.
„ Weekly Register.
„ Mercantile Adver*
tiscr,
„ Hue and Cry.
Dro^heda Journal,
Ennis Chronicle.
Enniskillen Chronicle.
Gal way Chronicle.
J, Advorti«or.
Kerry Western Herald.
„ Evening Post.
Ivtlkonny Moderator.
Limerick Clinmicle.
,, Evening Post.
Lein^ter Juumah
Londriiiderry JotiraaL
Mayo Cnnstitution.
Newry Telegraph.
Sligo Joumjti.
Strabane Morning Post
Tuam Gasette.
Ulster Chrouiote.
Watorford Cbrontclc.
,t Mirror.
Westmeath Journal.
Wexford Hsrald. J. F.
TsR GoLPBN BoBi.— Tliii Talncd compliment from
the Pope has been given this year to the Baronue ViglaTt
formerly Sophie CruTelli, aud'a Queen of Song,
The *' Sbrrwbburt Show/' — This remuout of tha «]
Corpus Christl festival vraa celebrated this year
renewed spirit and splendour.
BOOKS AND ODD T0LUMB8
WANTED TO PDBOHAOS.
Pai^trnlar* of Pricif. &e,, ot vwrvf boolr t« bt iPDt 4|rMl| If-
L H !• requlrnl^ urtioM oamc &&tt Midrmt iff
uUTelllatoiTofan&iBilUia. SUti«r Ibv fttilh
W«n(«d by itev. «r. ^siBM^tt, Kioflirmiaia StMSti MAX
Ocitiir'n Africa. 1 Vol- foU<K
TuiMiiciKrih TniT«U in fi. Africa. 1 vol. 4|o.
Ann other Old Tr&<r«Ueri In !$. Afrim, in «ajr Sfodcm Eurmasa
Wanted br Mr. H. BqU^A, Gljcut* TerrMe, LbthmIw mn.
I
fL\iiitt€ to CarrftfpattGrnitH,
R. S— T.— Ravaillac asserted that twice^ at the sign
the *' Ecce Homo,*' near Estampes, the idea rame ii
bis head to kill Henri IV. Th< liteg^d br]
RaTaillao were that th« king atou! J I ^uaieaP<
the Refurmed Beligiou to become II .,.^-. ..aho1iai»ai!i4
thai lie tin was about to make wsr '' against God, inas-
much as the Hope i:* God, and God the Pupe."— See the
*' Trial of Ravailloc," at the end of the Mrmoirwdv SuU^
M, T. Prbstow.— The line is neither PofMi'i
Drydcu's. The former bos {Imit, of J^orace, Bvok \
Ep, 1) :—
*' Praise undeserved Is scandal in disguise " ;
but it is a quotation from the author of a poem To Ih^}
CtUbraied Btauiiu o/ifu British Court. Dryden, in thei
dedication of Don Seboitian^ to the Earl of Lcicestef^,
says—
"Where Praise is undeserved 'tis Satire.*'
Pal. — For Strcater, or Streeter, see Pepyi^ Ptnkerton*.
Redgrave, kc. For his work at St. Michael's^ the folH
lowing extract speaks for itself ;—" Ui72, 15th November,!
Ordered that Mr, Streater, the Painter, who h^th l\n'
diucourBed with to pjiint Moses and A
Commandments, the Beltefe^ and Lord
chancell, and hath retjuired for it ZoL, L^
as he hath proposed, shall hare that suiu. itir it. ' ^^
countM qf Par. q/ Hi. Michael, ComlulL
C. A. W.— C. B. T. (Eton) writes:— "The arc
of tho Tenifon Sehool was Frederick Momvble, wL
suddenly last year. He wa«i the first ->''••
artthiitect under the Metropolis Local M
Hayter Lewis's work in the square was ti. .j,i.'
J. P. — The first article of the sort was 2voah'a Arit^
Jafueb.— See p. 6i of present Tolurao.
NOTJCW.
Editorial Oommunicutt- ■ -^r^ ■' 1 he addreced to ** The^
Editor '■— AdvertiscroO' mess Letters to "Tlw \
Publisher "—at the Ofii , .ing ton Street, Stroiid^i
London, W.C. i
We l>eg leaye to state that we decline to return comj
munications which, for any reason, we do not print ; I
to this rule we can make no exicepdoiL
To all communications should he affixed the i
address of the sender, not necessarily for pubUe»tloD, boi^
at a guarantee of good taith.
. 15, 7*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
121
yUfDOy» SATURDA r, A UOUSr H, W4.
CONTENTS. — N« 33.
kcAi Itl— FUwrCktntflBiiriwilim* 1212 -Spelling
tU , 1^— Ald«fia«ti Sir WilliAta SUlnes, 134
|0f«Ar ' < lOilmitig— B&tLle of Floddes^
tl< t f or Mr, Froudir't Hlftofj—
I of il _ 1 ar the Charchln]^ of Womea,"
)|tti— Dr. PriMtiey's MftUrUlinn— Bon jiii*s Gold
but mdefi Kolfls for Hoaitb. ISO.
i b«c*iii« of SetSMDi Botliweli Y 126'-8traQgo
i PtioAtlf Cruelly— The BolMrtaoQ F»mUy^
•ad »*The Autiwotic Rccowls," 127— "Mr.
ilt"»Babcicftl Qtwry— Privf CoiujcQ Judff-
i\ WeslertoD — To OopjiiU — Uvy— Bev.
ntfcb— A i^ucsUoQ for AnttquAties, 1^—
Leon." a Poeni — Lrii (an IsLand) — Tho
«wberT7 LeairM— Hie Piivate Goronenihi|)i
•d— l^e Second Crusade, 129.
f— T " udi. EarU of Wlntoo» 129-Macaulay
II 130— George Colman, 131— Adam'i
Iffr— Lrefor hit envy**— **Antlent," 132—
[Bttrr and bj^ll— " Wiadom'i betier Uiau money"
p|*-_«' A Euwan-Tne," 134—*' I*mbard'B Andeot
OoOJMftQTO-^Old Epgraviag*— T. AUingtoo— Mary
le *- flenldJc — Dr. JBarion^ Pans— The Jodvee
nit* 135 — Mendelwobn — " The Widow of the
— WaUr-roarlc — "Shotover" — Dr. I>e&'s Mas^c
Tlie Scottish Family of £d«at — Epkscopd Tiblefl,
[ Trevor " — Mn. Cowden Clarke'fi " Shak-
flce,** LIT — Wiggp — Drtuy Hoiuo— * ' Put
^nfr-^Prononclatioa of " Aches/' 130.
,^
ubw\
CRICKET,
ing IS abridged from an article called
mtenuy of Cricket/' by Mr. Arthur A,
and printed in Tlit Hour : — *
"otaxie^ of cricket are aware thai this year is
iftaj of that Doble game. Cricket ieems to be
■ to j^igload and the Engligh race. Wlierevcr
lb noe taJcoe root^ there to a certainty cricket
D iiHliiutioi), The gftine has taken d^i root
iSf, bal golf cannot be forced to give way» and
I its own. Ireland ha« not shown any great
>xi for tbo nme; indeed, I do not know that
iQj national flport except huntiQg. Cricket is
ko be identical with au offshoot of a game cmUled
lriii«h wia ptavod in the fourteenth ceatary ;
|ite||P 17 i 4 that cricket wa« an ackaowtedged
^^^Bgialated for. In the autumn of tLat
^^^Bliobl«iQen and g«>ntlemen formed them-
^nmi&itt:' I^tUte of Dorset
a, ano of laws for the
the garni, ^led before in a
ttltory fortu. le fiwt club wa«
nblcdon. iniluij it was, in reality^
L Coiein4n. ivritmg m&ny Tears
I Lile in pheainntSy cherries, hof>B,
ricketers/ The game ii suppoted
Iraui the 8axon word ' cricc/ a stick.
Ian ©id EqgUtfa word. ' kri^et/ which
IH^n*: pr-^' -^ *i . ider times
% a- ' aycra ore,
All i e caleodar
have their anniTanaiy and centenary. Why ibould not
Saint Cricket's centenfirybo held I I do not think the
players of the North and 8outh have ever met with their
Btrongeit teams. Mi^ht not a great match be g«>t up
between North and fc^outh, each side tj pick out their
tttretity litiL^t menj, the names being then sout to the
M.C.C., the committee of which wotJd chow -t
the two elevens? The cricketing feaaorn i^
certainly; still there i« tim^ to get the tcau.. ^ „..<.. vi-
and wind up the season of 1874 with the greatest mitoh
on record."
There in no doubt, I apprehend, that cricket, as
a regular ffxme^ " under a code of kwa/' is older
than Mr. Gilmore imagines,
Sevenil instances of the early Ujje of the word
have been given in former numbers of " N. & Q.*'
It had found ifcs way into dictionaries long before
1774. The earliest instance I have met with is in
Kersey^s Engluh THctionaiyj third edition, 1721,
where it is explained to be —
** An idsect like a grasi-hopper ; also a lo^ stool aach
at children uaually sit on ; also a sort of play with a ball.' '
Fenninc'a Royal Engluh jyidioiiary, 1741, is
rather clearer as t<» the »ort of game meant. There
we are told that cricket means —
*' An insect which frequents fire-places or ovens, and
is remarkable for a continual chirping or cro^kiitg tiotse;
a game which is played witli a bat and a ball/*
The Gentlemaivs Magiuim, for September, 1743,
?[Uote« an article on " Publick Cricket Matche*,"
rom the BHtuh Champion of the 8tb of that
months from which it seems that, much to the db-
gust of the writer, "noblemen, gentlemen, and
clergymen "were then, as now, in the habit of joining
with their social inferiors in pLiying the game ; that
notices of the matches were given by advertisement
in the newspapers, and that large numbers of people
used to flock to behold them.
This certainly indicates that the game had then
a weil-undei'stood constitutiotL In the same maga-
zine^ for October, 1756, a poem i& printed which
does not leave much room for doubt that crick el
wm then played much in the same manner as it in
now. I do not think it boa ever been reprinted,
and therefore endose a transcript for your colunms.
"Tub Qijcs or C&rcntT. Ah Exuactss at MsncHAirT
Tatloeb' School.
Peace, and her artt, we sing— her genial poir*r
Can give tho breast to pant, the tho*t to towY^
Tho* guiltlen. not ioglorions soub inspires,
And ^asts lest eavage, not test nobte fires.
Such is her sway, when Cricket calls her ttmln,
The sons of labour, to the accustom'd plain.
With all the faero'i passion and desire*
They swell, they glow, they envy, and adnure;
Despair and resolution rcis^ by turns :
Su^^ense torments. ' • .: - ^,yJ^^J^
See ! in due rank *i y ttand.
In act to start— the e hand,
Still active, eager, sc^iu coi^uiuJ in one;
Tho' (lit. all moving, and while present gone.
In ancient combat, from tho /»r--" - *»''<?fJ.
Not more unerring flew the ba
Than rolU the ball, wUVv ^arj W \
122
NOTES AND QUERIES
[5*^ S. IL Ata. ISz-ri.
^ow Icveird, wUizzing o'«r th« tpritiging blade,
Now tO!»'d to rise more fatal from the groundj^
ExHct and faithful to th' appointed bounds
Yet Vttin its gp«ed, yet vain iU certain aim ;
The wary bataman vratcbeft o*er the game;
fi«fore hu stroke the leathern cirele flies,
Nowwbecli oblique, now mounting threati the ikici.
Nor jet lets Tain the wary batsman ^t blow,
If intercepted by the circling foe.
Too foon the nimble arm retorts the ball.
Or ready fingers catch it in its fall :
Thus Tarious art with vary'd fortune strives,
And with each changing chance the iport re rites.
Emblem of manj-colour'd life— the state
&r Cricket-rules di^c rim i nates the great :
TIu onimird nd(, who ptacc and profit want,
Watch to surprize, and labour to supplant :
While those wim taste the sweets of present winnings.
Labour as heartily to keep their inningM.
On either side the whole great game is play 'd,
LTotry'd no shift is left, unsought no aid:
8kill vies with Kkill, and pow'r contends with pow 'r,
And vptinX tffd prejudice computes iAs icon.
In privstc life, like ginpk handed plafn,
We get less notckfjt, but we meet less care&<
Full many a lusty effort, which at court
Would fix tbe doubtful isaue of the sport,
Wide of its mark, or impotent to rise,
Ruins the ra^h, and disappoints tbe wise.
Yet all in public, and in private strive
To keep the ball cf action still alive,
And just to all, when each his ground has run,
Death tipt the tcuht, and the game is done/'
Mabel Pel\lock.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
[By consulting the General Indexes of " X. k Q/' all
who are interested in the game of Cricket will be refetretl
t<t passages wherein it is shown tbat long before 1774,
when the game underwent, as it has often done, some
modifications, it had been played at Eton in Horace
Walpole's younger days; that Pope had alluded still
earlier to the fact that ** Senators at Cricket urge the
bair*; that it was mentioned in Swift's John Bull ;
that it was named distinctly in a song by Turn DTrfy at
an earlier period ; that ''Cricket'* was noticed by
Edward Phillips. Milton saephewjti 1685; and tbut the
acholanof the Free School at Ouildford pkyed '* Cricket '*
in the reign of Queen EliKabeth. Thta is the earliest
mention of the game by its modern name. That it existed
long previously under another name, may also be seen by
all mm will turn to the word " Cricket in the Indexes.]
ULTRA.CENTENAHIAKlSM.--No. $.•
Mr8. Mart Arthur, — Miss Cathertxe Grear.
As the centenarian aeoaon seems to 1>e, a^ Horace
Wiilpole 84iid of the sumtner, **fteitiii^r in with it»
accustomed severity," I wiU, with your pcnnisstont
avail myself of a little leisure to clear off a number
of caae5, more or less authenticated, which have
lately reitched me, either directly or through the
medium of " N. & Q.'*
Mm. Mar}^ Arthur, the subiect of the fii-st of
these communications^ is an old ttctiiiaintance of
mine. She was introduced to me, some two years
since, by a hidy correspondent, to whom, although
♦ CoDtinued from •• N. k Q^" 5"- 8, L 221*
I have not the advantage of her peisonikl aoquainti
II nee, I am indebted for several most interestin
photographs of au])posed centenarians and notice
of their claims. The case of Mm, Arthur was oa
which I was quite disposed to credit,— supported i
it W!is by the recollections of tbe lady in que^-tio
and her family (to one of whom bo Jong since
1799 Mrs. Arthur had stated her then age},— ha
wanted such further corroborative evidence of t"
from the parish renters, as that which is no
furnished by my friend Sir Jony Macle
whose habit of sifting evidence^ in the porsuit <
his historical and genealogical inquirieit, has
turned to t^ood account in establishing the cent
narianisin of Mil?, Mary Arthur.
*^ Mrs. Manj Arthur. Two or three weelts Sjp(o]
cut the following panigmph from the Itoyal C(m
iixdl OazttU^VLwA 1 have since made «ome im^umei
:i5 to the facts. It will be obficrved that Mr
Arthur i« stated to have been bom nearly a ye
bi'fore she was baptized. This I am un
est^iblish ; but she was baptized on the djiy \
as is proved by the following extmcts fron
pirish registers of the parish of St. Clement's, nta
fruro, obligingly sent to me by the vicar. I giv
tlie baptism of all the children of Thomas anfl
Ann Shear, so that it may be seen that the baptism^
of Marj' comes in natural sequence i—
' 1770, Andrew son of Thomas and Ann 8hear« 2rof*2(^*
1772. Mar^, daughter cf Thonuu and Ann Shmr,
Jan. 28.
1773. Ann, daughter of Thomas and Antt Sliear,
Mar. 1^.
1774^ Elisabeth, daughter of Thomas and Ann Sheir«
1777. Nancy, daughter of Thomas and Ann Shear,
Feb. 20.
1778. BctRcy, iUughtcr of ThomM and Ann Shear,
'Oct. 26/
"With respect to these baptisms, the date of birlb
is not stated in the registers, but comtuenciorr willi
Oct* 5, 1783, there is a reoord of the day of 1
as well as of baptism, with the addition, ' Du'\
paid £i). 0. 3./ in each case as far as March 21,
1784. There are in all fifteen entries of this* kiiuL
This tax was levied under the Act 2*4 Geo, lllu
which provided that the clergy m in idiould diarjiv
a stamp duty of 3rZ. upon every entry, under *
IKjnaUy oi 5l. It taime into operation from I Oct,
1783, and was not repealed until 34 Geo* HLar
so that being in force for ten years, it is curio
that ther^ Hhould be only these fifteen entries,
is atill more curious that in all my ivc<iuaintA»c<
with parish registeni, and it hfi4& been g*ytiewhal
extensive, I do not remember to have noticed aDj
Bimilar entries.
"But, returning to Mre. -iiihur, I haH
certained from another clergyman that kIim
married in 1792, as stated, and as to the date <
her death there can be no doubt It is, therrfon
clearly established, I hope to the satislactioo
S*8. II.Ana.15.7*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
123
mj fri^il Mr. Thomfi, that the old lady, on the
d»3r of her death, was at least 102 years and 70
dajTB old.
* DiATu or Tinj OutKsT Irhabitakt or Cornwall.—
The mortal rtmAini of Mrs, Mary Arthur, ibe oldest
uilmbitent of i?omirftlI, were deposited in the cemetery
■I Loftwithiel on MondAj hit, in the preaence of » large
number of those amon^t whom she hai lived for the
ervatcr portion of a century. She retided at Lq«twithie]
^nr« h^r iTwrrin^ ther«^ on NoTember 26, 1792, to
She ma the daughter of Thamna and
ii« bom in February, 1771, was baptised
luirch of 8t, Clement, near Truro, on
Jtuttmty 2<, 1772, and died at Loatwithielf April 14, 1874^
in her 10 Uh year.*
JoHx Maclkan.
Eanmertmith.*'
It I
racteri^tic ot the tendency to make
ihr I nuir^ niarvcliuus that the Royal
'" :fow3 up the announcement of
m on January 28, 1772, and
I nn Apnl 14, 1874, by stilting that her
it 1 1 !• »k |>lace in her 104th year. It U taid
\^ v^as lioni nearly a twelvemonth hefore her
* m ; but this I doubt, aa her brother Andrew
been baptized only fourteen months before,
icly, on the 26th Nov., 177(».
** Mist Cttth^rinf Grmr, — The following slip,
m tla* New York Timts, of Hay' 9tb, 1874, may
lllibute U> Mr. Thoms's invest tigtitions. I pre-
the materials for verification are ample : —
i»H or A P'-—-' ■-" V ''^' rine Orcar
Tu«tday. v. < Jiidelphia,
"Jjtars. J i4 a natire
city; HjiTing bceti Loru in thg year 17<J<*, in a
1 8tAr Alley, near Fifth and Cherry ^treetA. She
G«rman descent, her parenti harin^ come to thii
itjtry in the cAriy part of the last ceDtury. Two of
■itt4*m nrr Ttnw living, one a^ed ninety, and the other
itv li third died two yean o^o at the ad*
ty. Min Orear wa« quite strong and
. Lin a fhftrt period of her deoeaie, and
diiiinctly occurreiicei that took place durioig;
(r part of the last centory/
M. B. S.
ic, K.J., U.S.A."
I am much indebted to M. B, ^. for hh courtesy,
t am quite unable at this distance from Phil-
Iphia to make that uearcbing investigation
would be neceasary to establLali the excep-
»g« of 106 yeois claimed for Miss Grear.
WllXlAH J. TllOM.S.
8PELLTK0 RBFORMS.-No. IIL
W* bjivt* now made the following anggestion.^ :—
lI, The hi wordH don veil from theLatin cede
be all ap^lt alike, hence the 3 cicfption!*,
fftocttd, and An<rcf4U should be written
piooede, and auccede.
the lift* words i*nding in c mute, which
ntHlx -w^ai, only 3 drop the r in so doin^,
wotda ahould be made lo conlbnu to the
117 others, and should be apeit ahridgcmtnt,
ackiw^tUdycmmt^ and judgement.
o. Of the 1 80 worda enaing in e mute which take
the suffix -abU^ some reject the e in !h> doing, and
^ome retain it. All should conform lo one rule,
and I au^gest that the simplest plan would be to
retain the « throughout.
4. We have 672 wordn aUoj»^tber which take
the sufliK -Me^ and 208 which take the «ulhx -ihU,
As this distinction does not point out any con-
juffational ditfcreDce (for between 60 and l*X\ of
those in -abU are not of the first conjugation), I
snggeat that the miffix -ibU he abolished, a« a
delusion and a snare, and that all the 88*» words
be spelt alike with the termination -able.
5. The next suggestion is this : No dissyllable
accented on the first of ita ayllablea shnll double
iu final consonant on receiving a suffix, but all of
them without exception ahall retain their simple
form throughout.
There are 9 of such dissyllables ending in -p,
H of which double the p on taking cert«in sutfixes,
vu,j (fomp, kidnap, and worship. 1 suggest that
the extrai p be abolished, and that the suffixes be
added to the simple word without any alteration
in its spelling.
The same with dissyllables eodiog in -*7, -d^
&c. In a word, no dissyllable accented on the
first syllable shall in any case change ita original
form on receiving a suffix.
These easy rales wLU simplify the spelling of
some ii,(KJO words, without causing any striking
change in the apf>ea ranee of a page, and certainly
without obscuring the etymolog>" or violating any
rule of spelling. The help they will aflbtd to
simplicity and uniformity will be very graat, and
the drawback balanced against the^^e advantages
will be almost ni7, and very temporary.
I will now, with penniasion, continue the sub-
ject, and take for my text this axiom : The plural
suffix -€$ 18 never to be used except when it makes
a distinct and separate syllable, as in church,
chnrcU'tA; ga*, (fm-fs^ &c. Of course the immediate
reference is to the plurals of nouns ending in
-/, -ffy and -o. The present plan Lb most complex,
confused, and absurd.
The roles for nouns ending in -/are these :~~
L Ail nouns in -r/ (except thitf and ttandker-
ehief) form their plural by adding ^, as belief,
beliefs; brief, briaf*; chief, chic/s; clef, cle/i;
fief,}t^/f ; grief, griefs ; reef, re«/>.
2. Similarly, nouns in -tYand -*/f add #, as —
Bailiff, bailiffs; caititf, caitifi ;* calif, ealif* (?) ;
cliff, rUffii; coif, rc/i/ji ; mi^tllf. mastiffs; pliiiutiff,
plftiiUiffs: sheriiT/»fur V. $kiff$; tariff,
hiriffa ; waif, icaifi ; win
3. The same with nou nd -off, as —
Hoof, hoofs; proof, . proof, reproof i;
root, roofs; woof, woo/*; m:i>i\
4. The Mune wvl\i mM^m vw ^ .u\J,|**—
^^^tfi^
124
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
Cu^t cT<jf* ; huff, huff» ; muff, mvffs ; puff, pvff»;
ruff, raffs ; snuff, snuffs ; stuff, stuffs ; gulf, gulfs.
5, Asd lasiljj nouns ending in -r/ foUow the
same niJe, as —
Dwarf, dwarfs; scarf, scarfs; wharf, wharfs;
8urf, surfs ; and turf, turfi.
Altogether 39 words, only two of which are
irregular. Why ia the plural of ** thief" to be
thitres^ and of "handkertbief " to W hamlker-
chitves? Of course " thief ^' m our native word
thatf which makes fhivfas (thitfs) in the pluiaJ^
and could not by any possibility change /into tw,
seeing there is no sucJa letter afi t? in the language.
The letter v is wholly Latin, but there is no pxo-
babitity that it bad any resembhmce in Bcrana to
our modem letter so-aiJled.
A^in, "handkerchief" is a mule and an ass
Yoked together, for hand is a native word, and
rchief ia French. Why should this hybrid word
» still further deformed by an imposiible plural ?
Of course the French couvr'-chtf mnkea convr^-cJiefs
in the plural, and ^' handkercbieves " is a monster
which ought not to be tolerated an hour.
Without doubt, therefore, the words "thief"
and '^handkerchief^' should be reduced to rule,
and we should write their plimds ihitfs and
handhirchiefs, conformably with the 37 other
examples.
Kow for the reverse of the medal. Nouns in
-o/ or -CTjf, -alf and -c?/, change the / into vts.
Strange enough, all these nouns are native wonlst
not one of which makes such a ptund, or indeed
could do so. There are 11 in all ; they are :— -
Calf, mlves; half, hahu; elf, ehu; adf, sdves;
shelf, fihdves.
Leaf, haves; aheaf, shmves; loaf, lomtts ; staff,
staves ; but not " dist^V* which makea distaffs.
Now, the original of staff is ataf plural stafas
(stafs). The original of loaf is hUif plural hldfas
(hlafs), and so with the rest. To tbe»e may be
added hitf plural bi^res, which, of course, mis-
represents the French baiufs.
Where is the inconsistency of demanding the
restoration of these 1 1 words to their normm and
original condition I By s5uch a restortition we should
gtnn thus much for unifomiity of spelling : every
word ending in -/ would form its plural in the
regular way, by adding s, and not 38 in one way,
11 in another, and 3 deviating from either method.
In regard to -fc the caae is worse, and even more
absurd. We have 6 nouns with this ending, 3
native and 3 borrowcnl from other languages. The
native words are knife, life, and wife. The natii-
ndize^l strangers are^/e, strife, and safe (a closet).
The 3 native words have for their plunds kjiires,
Hvfs, jind mres. The three oliens fifes, strife, iind
safi:s. The originals of the first three are cnif Uf
and mf^ the final c being the ridiculous substitute
of the accent. It need not be added that the
phiral BD&ix -res finds no countenance in the ori-
ginal words. Wif and lif being neater, ane sdik»
in both numbers ; and crnf m&tB mi/as (fc»i/r "
or hiifes without the accent.
The 3 strangers need no remark. Wliiit stdki
me most forcibly is the gratuitou* disiortion of
JiFBt 3 words ; and the question lu) ' > rKUH
or impediment exists why they t be
roduc^ to the general rule, so thai . >li_> vs^ni in
-/ or -fe should iform its plural by adding s f
£. COBHAM B&KVBR.
{To ht contin%id*)
ALDEB.MAN SIR WILLIAM STAINES.
In Mr. Thorn bury's Old and New Lrmdon.^ j\
stated of Sir William Staines (Lord Mayor
tlmt
" He began life lui a hricllayerU lah<mrer, and by pif^
BeTenng stcailily in the ptrremt of one object, occamulBliii
a large fortune, and rose to the state coach and tha
MftHfion Houie/' — Vol. i. p* 412.
I lately fell in vnth a very interesting
entitled Economy ; or, a Ptcp at Otir Nci^hl
purporting to be a narrative of six month*'
dence of an English family in 0" - - i:
eunimer of 1B44, whore a different ;
of the early occupation of thu^ "^
dignit^ary, which, with permission, I extrnct, ni
follows :^
"It is w«ll known that Aldenoftn Stekiea fcm ^
fortune from his having been employed as a sUm*<^tUr
at St. SflmpBon'i, He had left Englmid in hb etfly
youth, came to Qaenuey, and to earn a lirtng hired
himself as a jiovriuyiTtan s(on4-c%Uter to a farmer at the
Vale, Returning to London some years aftenfardi^ h*
accidentally came to a street they were t^kving with the
Guernsey stone, and, lookiog at it as be would at hi
Aisooiate he knew well and loved from early recciUectienM»
he saw the cluniey manner in which they were laying it
down» at the game time pointing out to the workmtn
how they ocmlJ do it better; and whiht bo dof
attraGicd the attention of the contractor, who, et
his knowledge of the buBinciia, wat glad to emploi
hia lerifice. From this he became a contractor "
made money, was elected Alderman, and Hnnllv
lite a gccond Whittington, Lord Mayor of London^
fact wae unknoAtn in the Island until Sir Jthn Doyte,
when gorernor, dining one dity nt the Mansiuo Houi^
hnppened to be seated next to Alderman Staines,
opportunity of hearing about Guenuey was not it
re^isted^ and he said,^—
*' ' You seem, General, to know the people of th* iil
toll me of my old maater^— is he yet alive, — the woi
farmer of the Vale l *
'* The GoTemor knew him well.
"'Then tell bim,' said the Alderraan. *that
journeyman, William Staines^ learnt ir*!^ '^-"*
economy under his rofif, and is now dotng^ i* ^
will be happy to see him in the City of Lcjh;
return him the kindnew, with interest, he nBCcixcd al hks
hands/ '—Pp. 13*^-1^9.
Apropos of Economy; or, a Peep at iktr Ntiifh'
hours (London, John OUivier, 1845), can any
reader of " N. & Q/' inform me who i* the ftOthorJ
— apparently a lady of good pomtioQ in socaelfj
NOTES AND QUERIES.
125
- ' leii for Fome inonth.s on
- the title), inGiieniRey-
biPMM-.> Ml a -tries of graphic letters,
IS I pither from int«nial evidence) to
fy man, ABsiimin^ the author to be a
Ha a highly- gifted and accomplished
'lief ocowiouiil reflections on life and
lti<l even her views on political ques-
lie n thoughtful^ inteOi^ent and smsiblc
Iteibly the nutho? is now well known ;
ftely I had never seen, nor even heard of,
bd, having come upon it by chancei I
) into it, and became so interested as
(rough at one sitting. W. A. 0.
m Grbat^s Visit to Godalming ix
tay not be* genemlly known that the
ited in the Memoir of PtUr tlic frreatf
brrobomted by a no le^s eminent cmt-
thority than Peter le Neve.
liiited herald'9 account difTcrs aomcwhat
[ven in the Memoir (from a letter in the
9)Tary), as will be seen on comparisoR;
ler jwaiatiJ us in filling up one or two
Le Neve*a MS., a ctipy of which, by
\j in preserved among the Additional
t Mus., No. 548C, under the heading
I MiBcellanies and other Events begin-
6nd» 1694, collected antl carried on by
re, E«qr., Norroy King of Arras " : — '
.— Ahout one month before " {the mcmor-
ijrecedcs it fs tlatcd in July of same year)
Mtifcovy, beiri^' in England^ went to Porte-
H kiA way. Jay at Godalroin in Surry. There
it at table at iupper, and the scrTarUn
^"-^-one. They hml tVn- ^nn^-^r [five riba
fee stone, cme liing fifty-
ri of lamb, It istedond
wltbbacon^ eight i)uiiot>, tour couple
dosen of sack, one dozen of claret, and
pnmnrtion&ble.
ail * (the following morning evidently)
ntnet^en pounds of laiub^ ten ptilleta» one
\nM, and three quarti of brandy/'
thi»—
NMk mulled at nfgifat, and in the
I of egga, and [saladl tti proportion,
to jTil.*'
James GKKKirsTiiKST,
BUDKN.— The tv
kt«Mr. JU
en "' ^'
here sup-
3 ** List
in who were
I :»i:3,'' printed
VV-
Sir
Jiatt,^ KdinbuTgh, 1660 (printed
■ Aion)» p. 3,
bth) of Cleland. Life of ,^r
, B^Tt., Bdinburght 1872, p. li. j
For John third Lord Maxwell read fourth^
'' N. & Q/' 4^ S, xi. 233,
For John urond Lorrl Ro«« and William hi&
only aon, read firxt, and Nintan his eld$H son*
Rid de IPs Bo&s Fcdigrtc.
To the list of ** escaped " add Gib of that Ilk.
Life and Times of Hohtrl Cih, Lord of Carribher^
London, 1 874, p. /i. J. MAmTEi*.
N e wcasfcle 'Upon-Tyne,
Epitaph at Salzburg. — In the doistered grave-
yard belonging to the Monast^ery of Rt. ^m - *-n
a t Salzburg (which con titi n s t h e t omb of I '
I copied, on the 25tli Aprd, 1871, the i ..-.^.ig
curious inscription } from a slab in the pave*
nient; —
•' Ah mi Viator
Sine kcrymia ne veni ne £ita
Nam «>culu§ ()ui Patri
Matrique intempestiye cxoidit
Hic Jacct
Joannes Baptigta
Eellenbergier
Snpra aetate maturtu gravis Puer
Aot O ramm I duodennts Vir
Qni cum in icholit Co-
Honam Nemiui cede-
rct MoTi invida ecripnit efl Jonfi o tmperio
Kt eola flolio movit
Nunc coeli in academla Deum audit
docentem
In memoriam niaTisaimi Filii mocsti parentes
3ton ; hoc pp. obiit 10"" April. A. 164&/*
V.HJ.LJ.C.LV.
A Fact for Mr. Frohuk's Hibtory.^ — About
the year 1^2 the late Rev. Thomas Newland,
curate of St. Peter's, Dublin, told me that he was
then visiting, on her deatb-lfed, an old woman, who,
when a little girl, had been one of the Protestants
shut up in the bam of Skullabogue. When asked
how ffhe imd escaped being burned with the rest>
she said the Bomish priest had got her out,
bec4iU5e her life was in a lease which he held,
S. T, P.
StRANOE USB OF THE "SkRTICE FOR THIC
CHtrRCHtKu or WoMEK."— Sir Thomas Widdring-
ton, M.P. for York, iu a speech in the Houso of
Commons, tells an extraordinaty anecdote of a
clergyman who was his friend and neighbour. A
butcher in the parish was severely gored in tha
stomach by an ox, and only narrowly escaped
death. Eventually, the wound b< ' h the
butcher desired to give public thanl ii the
church for \m safe deliverance. i uf pu/>zled
clenryumnt finding himself in a A%, anxious and
vv^illin" *-■-' —tify hia pariRhioner, and yet not
know I ,' authorized form for such a public
act, iioL.. ... . -1 ^1"' Pr«v.-r. f, ,r 1 he Churching of
Women, (ra /ol. ix* p, 455*)
In mv own ► . tv to an unin-
126
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^*S. ILAvit. 15^74
^ «li<scuil pcw^ capacious t\nd high, nt the entmnce
I of the churcli, where only womea woi^hippe<l w ho
'desired this office of benediction. One SumkiTr
Afternoon three Oxford umleripraduates, amving
during the evening service, Laslily took their
pUees in this particular pew ; when^ iiccording to
^aistom, towards the close of the service, the p^irson
(wJiO was shortsighted), looking up and seeiug the
pew occupied, imiDediateW proceeded **to church"
these visitors, an Jict which be completed to the
CODfit^mation of the congregation.
Frederick George Lee.
All Balntft' Vicarage^ Lambeth.
MisrHTSTs, — " K. & Q/' Im^s froio lime to time,
directed attention to absuiTi misprints. Pray,
therefore> find n:>oui for the fcjllowing. In the last
editinn of the MonaJiticon Anglicannnij vol. vi*
prtTt iii, p. 152ij is printed a contract, in Englif<h,
ior making certain windows in the church of the
Grey Friars, in London. The printer has not
understood the contnmion for *'con,'' and has not
once only, but several times, represented it by the
Ji^ire U. Con seq lien t]y» instead of " reconsylej"'
'* contaynyth/' and *^ conquest, we have " re9syle/*
^*S)tayDyth," "Squcst." K. P. D. E.
Da, pRntsTLEY's Materialism, — The unveiling
of Dr. Priestley's statue at Eiruiingham, on Satur-
day, August 3, may perhaps give snflicient interest
to the following epitaph to insure it an insertion
" Here lie nt rest
In onkeQ chest.
Together packed most nicely,
The bones &nd brftini,
Flwht bloody und teins,
And toril of Dr Priestley."
It ifi »aid the Doctor, when he read it, enjoyed a
hearty laugb over it. The author, the Kev. David
D&vis, of Castle HowlII, yvoA the KUcx:essor of David
ZJovd, Llwynrhydowen, lately referred to in
'*N* k Q,,'* and was for tifty years the most
celebrated schoolmaster in the Principality, There
18 a short account of him, WTitten by the Rev,
Arthur Mursell, in G<fod WoTd^^ imz, p. 41^.
T. C, Uk>'oxe.
BinrrAN's Gold Km&. — Who now has the gold
ring found, 1 think, in the moat near Bedford Jail,
and Bupposed from the initial'^ to be Bunyan's ? It
belonged to the late Dean of Manchester, Dr,
Bowers, who very highly prized it. Tlie device
wafi ft death's head, surrounded by the motto,
** Memento mori," and with the letters J, B. just
tinder the skull. Such rings were often left as
JegiuVie-s at that time, which may account for Ban-
yan liaving ao expensive an article. I forget the
llean's reasons for believing it to he bis, P, P.
Cardastus Rider's Rules for Health.—
Jiider's Brithih Merlin, for the year 1769, i% ac-
cording to the title-page» *' adorned with
delightful and useful Verities Htl
in the Inland. H of Great Britain^
was *' compiled for bis Country* ii^^ij
Cardanua Rider/' Tliinking it a pity ^
" Verities " should be unknown to the \>o<\^
this sophisticated age, I send you the rule* I
health as they appear in the " Obsenrattoiw ^* ;'
each month : —
** JanvaiTf.—htt not Blood, and ufc no PhyskV. uxM
there be r Necessity : K&t often, and Avuid too luV
Bleep.
** Feh^an/.—Ue paring in Phjsick, and lot not Bk
without absolute Ncceeeity, and be careful of cMth'
Cold.
** JtfrtrcA.— Purge aad let Blood : Eat no grom UuL,
'^.4;>ri/.— It is ttow a good Time to bleed an^S telM
Phyaick : abstain from much Wine ; they will oum^
Ferment m your Blood, and ruin your Constitution.
** May. —The Blood and Uumours beir- ' '"
Motion^ \Tc must be careful to avoid eatinL
or stale Meats ; fat People must aToid Excv
of any kind.
" June. — €<x>1ing Sallads, as Letuce, 8orreU Pan
kCf will prevent too great a Perspiration, and throw (
feTcrish Disorders.
*^July. — Forbear supertuous Drinking. tr§e ei4d
Herbs. Sbun boil'd, sail, and strong Meats,
abstain from Pbysick,
•'^Mj^if. -This mouth use moderate Diet. forUj-^
sleep soon after Meat : for that brin^:-
Heftdacbfi, Agup?, and Catarrhs, and other
of the same Kind. Take gjeat care of »4ii<^j«un kq
after Heat,
September contains no rule, bo it ia to be nn
posed you may live as you like,
" Ocl&hfr^—AtQid bettig out late at Night*, of In foj „
Weather; for a Cold now, may contmue the whole
Winter.
" Novmher,^7hc best Phyeick this 51
Exerciae« warm Clotboa, and wholesome I
any Diatempor atUict you, finish your I i
Month, and so rest till March,
*' l)fcembtr.—0\d Par's Maxims of Healtk. K«
your F«et warm by Exercise, your Head cool
Temperance, i>ovcr cat till ^ou are ahungiy^ord
but when Nature requircB it/*
a w, &4
[We must request correspondent* desiring info;
on family mattem of only private interest, to affiji I
names and addressee to their queries^ in order thai tlw
answers may be addressed to them direct,]
What becamk of SKaaiiANT Botbwkll f
The Francis Stewart, grandsion of Queen Ma'
E;irl of Bothwell, i«, »b we all know, p^'ctuj
by Sir Walter Scott in Old Mortality as n pri
in the Bcottish Life Guarda. He if promoted
the grade of a sergeant, and, at the interc^ ^^
Lady Margaret Bellenden, is promised by
house ft cornetcy ; but, ere he obtains his
mission, ^he is slain in flinglo combat by Jol
Bulfour, of Burley, All this ia m
drzLmatic, but it is notoriously quite ^'un
Tlie real Fnmcis Stewart, ^nindsou of the Earl of
^iSotbwell, was a private in ihu Scottish Horse-
iiaidg, but he was promoted from the ranks to a
Etaincj of dragooDs. He certiunly wiw never
cd in the fight at Drtuiiclog, since ho was in
Duunand of the dnigoons at the battle of Bothwell-
J and he seems to have siinived for some
Fnfter wards, Claverhouse was never his com-
n^lng officer, nor was that brave bad man in
[>minand of the Scottish Life Guards at all He
he captain of an independent troop of horse,
bth well- Brig jT the Life Guards were headed by
"arquis of Montrose {ncc Atholl disgraced),
nd Claverhoase only commanded his own troop of
Tegular cavaln'. The.^e facts are all plainly
cited in the Memoirs of Captain John Crtichion ;
nd it is at a period after the accession of James It.
' the throne, and during Monmouth's rebellion,
lit the Captain incidenljUly refers to the death of
ftptain Stewart as a recent event. When and
ow did he die I It is curious to remark that
Jir Walter, who edited Swifl, who bafl edited
eichton's Memoirs, should have so deliberately
verted historj^ in the matter of Bothw ell's
ndion, who appears to have been a person of
ehiitscter and consideration, seeinf^ that bis
i iraa sent np from Edinbur^di to the Govern -
Ekt hi Loadon as that of a military Jiian likely to
do the SUite good service in Scotland a;;ainst the
*" citerK His nomination (probably on account
I myal bclonofings) received instiiut approval
"he ttuthoritieri at Whitehall ; and he, a mere
Life Guardsman, was at once sent for to
mrj^b, and entrusted with the command of a
of horse, in which Creiebton wm apj)ointcd
pn(int, Still more curious is it to note that the
eristic Sergeant BotbiveLI of Scott^H wonder-
lion is not Francis Stewart at all, but
ally Creiebton bimself ; and but for 8ir
efn evidently inteni^e study of the gniphic
i^tive taken down from the old persecutor's
* i|>8 by Swift, we shoiihl never, probably, have
he story of Old Mortality. All the fictitious
JPs impudence, profligjicy, lawlessness, and
9evil bravery are to be found in John Creich-
I own character as drawn by himself. History,
vcver, is history ; and it would be scarcely justifi-
es even in the greatest of hiatorical novelists, to
i thnt Oliver Cromwell wa^ killed in sin^de
by Charles L at the battle of Worcester ;
pierre waiS shot in a duel by Mirabeau ;
oleon L escaped from St. Helena, and
lident of the United States of America,
uncis Stewart (or Stuart), grandsrm to
"" hwtdl, and who— odd coincidence—
n^ed the left wing of cavjdry at B(>tbweU-
^must have had a veraciou*^ history of bis own.
f my one tcJl me how he came by hi« end ?
a A, HAUi.
P,S. There can lie no cause to doubt the autheu-
ticity of Creichfcoufi own narrative ; and the his-
torical accnmcy of his allusions to Clave rhoase,.
Dalziel, Leslie, Sir Evan Cameron, and other
personages of the time, huA never been called in
question.
[Scott, in Old MGrUttttH, fliar* that the " Bothwcll " ©f
the novel wft* '*ile«sended from tUe laat carl of that
nanitf, not the 'u' ' vcr of the unfortunate Quuen
Mary, but Kras , Earl of Bothwell, whose tur-
bulence and rtj ;i racial embarrassed the early
part of Jamea V L & r^igu, and wbo at length died in exile
in great poverty," TIub earl's son, Scott Btates. '* died id
the utmost indigence/' The " BothwdP* &f Old Mot-
taliti/, the laAt earl's aon, ia thus " unhistorizcd " in tlie
first note to the 4tlj chap, of that romance :—" Tlie
chnracter of Bothwell, except in relation to the name,
18 entirely ideal."]
Strange Btdry ok Alleged Priestlv
Cruelty. —
''Reprieveg may al&« be ?^ nertsiitatf Uffu; an wJierr
ft vroman is capitally convicted, and pleads her pregnancy;
tlioui;h this is no cause to stay the judgment ; yel it is t<^
respite the execution till she be dcUvcrtd* This iis n
mercy dictated by the law of nature, m /aoorem protis ;
and, therefore, no nnrt of the bloody proceedings in the
reign of Queen Mary hath been more Justlv dete«ted
tlian the cruelty thtit waa exercised in the iiland oi
Gueraiey, of burning a woman big with child:. and
when, throuifli the vioience of the tlames, the infant
sprang forth at the itake, and ^vas preserved by the by-
Btanders, after some deliberation of the prie«t« viho
nssisted &t the sacrifice, tliey cast it tgain into the hfv
m a young heretic."
Thl^ piifisage occurs in Blackstone's chapter oo.
" Reprieve and Pardon.'' He cites in a note the
mart}Tologi»t Foxe ! Is ther*^ any better authority
for the incredible story ? Middle Te^iplaR-
Bradford.
The Robertson Family. — The crest of thir
Robertson fuinil}', which waa once the Clao
iJivnnachie (or Donnachee), is a hand holding »
crown. The coat of arms resta on the iignre of a
man in chains (not a (juartering).
A lady belonging to this family, and the only*
Fur\T.vor of her bnmch of it, would be gi'eailr
obliged if any one eonld expkin to her the origin
of tlieiie artnoriai bearings. She ijs aware thai
there h some legend of historic interest connected
with ihem, ami believes that the incident which
pive rise to them took pltvce in the reign of
James I. (she thinks of Scotland). She would
ghidly send an impression of the crest or coat of
arms to any one who is disponed to investigate the
matter. F. Chakci:.
Bydenhoni HUl.
Mrs. Wood and '' The At?TnE3fTTC Recohpu/'
^A friend of mine^ a wcll-ltnown man of lettcntt
ha** in his possession a copy of that scaJidalotifl^
ehroniclej Tlie Authfiitic Record* of tht Cq^H' ' '*
England for the lanl l^tvcniy Vears^ contai
among other manuscript notea^ ooft ^Ti \3la.<fe \\\S*:-
128
NOTES AND QUERIEl
IS^B^ILAvqA^IL
pnge which states it was " Written by si lady of the
tiame of Wood, who vms residing in the poJiico.
Suppressed, bought up and destroyed. Very few
copies in existence/^ I have seen Mrs, Wood's name
OS authoress (pioted in a bookseller's catalogue^ and
have heard her spoken of in the saine character.
Wufi there ever such n [kerson I If t^tj where can
I learn any particulars of her ? It hfis been stated
that neither the AuUieniic Bccords nor the enhirgetl
version of it, Tha Sca-et History^ 5:c., was publicly
aold, but hawked about ut night by a mysterious
female, who chtirged very lii^ prices for them.
Certain it is that the '^remainder" of the Mccrd
Hutortf was offered one evening, by some such
agent, to a well-known bookseller, who declined
to purchase. Could this be the Mrs. Wood re-
ferred to in the MS. note 'i M. W.
" Mr. Fuller's Complaint,^*— I wish to ascer*
taiu the collection whence a poem, entitled aa
above, is taken. The following is the first of
soren stanzas : —
" Englimd, once Europe's Joji
iMow her scorn ;
AmbitiouB to be forlorne,
fid f, by self torn;
SUnd amaz*d^
Thy wo«B are bliu'd,
By MlcQce best.
And waatiug words, even wander out tbe rest"
J. E. Bailey.
EoBRiCAL QuERT. — In Sir Archibald J.
Stephen ^H edition of the Book of Common Prayer,
published by the Ecclesiastical History Society in
the year 1849, tbe first rubric touching the orna-
ments that were in use in the second yeai' of the
reigo of King Edward VI. is scurod across in blue
ink, and in a foot-note we are informed that '* The
40th pace of the Sealed Books commences with the
words * Thk Order,* but is cancelled. This
* Order ^ does not appeur in the MS, Booky Diihlin^
C. R. E." On refening to his edition of the Book
of Common Prayer for Ireland, I find it as he says.
My query is, w:i3 tbb rubric intendeil to be
omitted at the last review, but left remaining by
An overaight ? Edmund Tew, ]VLA.
Privy Council Judgment: Liddell v, Wes-
TERToN. — In Bayiurd's (ed. 1857, p. 128) report of
the judgment of the Judicial Comuiittee of the
PrLv>^ Council (Liddell v, Westerton), delivered
March 21, 1857, 1 read :—
" Bat by the time* when the second Prayer Book was
introduced & ^reat chiuigG hod takcD place in the oniaioii
of tbe Erigliih Cburch, kod the consequence was taat on
ih« revision of the BeTTice ihete aever&I mmttera were
I completely altered; the use of the surplice was sybi^ti-
l^ied for the several vcatments preTionslj enjoined, ihi
xtjferfor citfutcratian rjf the eUfH^mlx van omiiUd, ihougk
the prtsent Prater Book it U nHor^, the br«ad and
In Tait (Bishop of London), Brodrick and
Freemantle'a (ed. 1865, p. 147) report of the vm^y
judgment, I read :—
*^ ... the use of tbe BurpUce wat «ab«titut6d for tht
several vestments previously enjoined, mtUtrial lU^fnUmi
irer* introdwitd HI iki frrujftr of amteeraiicm, the hrwi
and wine/' &c.
How could '* material alterations '* be i*
in a prayer that was omitted ? How cou I > ,
if not omitted, be " restored '- ? Which i^ Liia
true report of the jud^mient delivered 1
Utkum.
To Copyists. — Will Hkrkbnthi ni' or kdv
other expert genealogist, kiudly rec
experienced person, who wo\ild uui it
for mo at the Public Record Office and Bntiaii
Museum I X,
[Letters » prtpaid, will be forwarded to oar cwfe-
spoodeaij
XavT, — In an edition of Livy, bearing on lU
title-pace " Francoforte ad Mijenain " :is ^ place
of publication, and dated 1678, the foUowiog
passage occurs : —
"PIcbs tribunes plebis abaentca Sex. Tempantaflif
A Selium, Sex. Antietiatnj et Spuriliaiu fecit, q«ot tl
quo oenturiombus sibi paefecemnt Tempanio aatbofe
cquitea/*
In the Oxford classics "Sp, Icilium** occurs
for " Spunlium," Li\ii iv* 42. Which of these
readings is correct, and how is the diacrepanQr to
be explained ? Is there any tnontlon of a HSpuriU^
elsewnere in Latin authors I OiffioA.
Eev.Timotht K ewmarcb.— Wanted particukn
of this clergyman, a Yorkshire Nonjuror, in
middle of the eighteenth ceDtur}% who is* >
have possessed much of the MS. tt-
the "Kev. Edward Stephens;' a r*
juror of a previous generation, {^oua- ot wiiox
lettei-B are preserved in the GiV»son MSS. in Jjm-
beth Library. Invks-huatob.
A Question for Antiquauies,— Tlu^ ^ n.^dm,
is extracted from the Unitarian Herat <
at Mauchester. By giving it the pi,.*. ...
*'N. & 1,J;," we umy, perhaps, obtain ivn answdr
forF, S, A.:—
*' In the inicresting volume Utelj publithed by Ma
Le Breton, entitled Memoir vr^f> i. n.rrLiuhf, :fir!inii*s
Ldlers and Notices of her /
is gi?en addressed by the P^
Dr. Aikin, when about t..
Warrington. He )?ivc8 him u
ia post'Chaiies as far ai l^t I :
at that place he will /*<'
1768. Can any of your ji
eture or Cheshire inform u. ..-^.- „...-i, .,
firat poBt-ch4i8c ran in Stockport ! A latiy nut tc r
deceased informed ine that, in her youtli, a pcr^i
did not wiali exactly to confess having oomc on iwi
would say * I came by Stopport chaise.' Tlioru mvxm
to bare been a general inclination to substitut« mmt
indirect pluTi»e for tbe simple * I walked.' A Scotchinaa
NOTES AND QUERIES.
129
wotjld Sftj^ * I rodo oa thank' f naggu> A German, ^ I
f p€r pfdfs ApotloloTum,* F. 8. A."
SAI^KARA,^ MaRUATTA BiLAJIiiANj A*D, 1717.^ —
"^ " 'i koown regiirdin^i^r the life mid writingd of
\ who negocinted the trciity between the
__Jttt)cn>r Firokh Sir and Biilit-ji Biaha Nath, the
fii*t Peshwji, in 1717, by which the rights of
Cbouth and Sir D(^ Mukhi were ceded to the
*JI>oir Lieosr, & Poem by the late Lonl Byron» ic. To
vliaeh U added Leon to Annabella, an epiatJe from Lord
"* I to Lady Bjrron. London : Printed for the Book-
jtDoccLJtvi." 8to. 1 vol.
Th€«e two poems are, of course, not by Lord
Srroti* Can you inform me who was the author ?
Tae ptthlbhers name, and the circnmstimces of
publication, would tiho he acceptable.
H, S. A.
Thk Islahd Iris. — Biodonis Siculus (v., 32)
i^^eftka of those Britons, who inhiibtt tt)v oi'ofxa-
{c^uAiofv 'Ipiv^ aa being cannibals. Where is tliLi
The Sqllt Islss. — What is the earliest ex-
ttoipld of Vm namef and why were they so called i
Pelaoius*
Stkawbeaby Leaves.— ^liy were these leares
L*ii to decorate ducal and uther coronets 7
St. Swithin*
IE, PbITATE CORONEESHIl'S OF EnQLAND. —
Where can T meet with an account of the^e, I
mean such as were attached to certain manors ]
I know an instance in which such an otficc waa
^^ fordshire Ump, Henry VI IL, and
of the propeJty of a fdo dt u
f^*^' .iuyi afterwards remitted by the lord
of [, Have such privileges ever been
alwu^"^^^, -; are they anywhere in force now ?
T. W. Wbbbl
Thx Second CarsADE. — I remember readinfr
Ittmjr years ago (I think in a modern work on the
f Criwides) a H«t, said to be copied frt^m the Annfds
^Of Waverley Abl>ey, of the knights who accom-
' Henry, son of David, King of Scot-
cond crusade. I have since referred
^ rlitiona of the " Annjdes Montis-
in Mr. Luard^s Annales Alonua-
. .i r ach liiiit, though the crusade is
ioned. Can any of the readers of your in-
ftblo publication inform me where the list in
qttistian ijf to be found i Miles.
* MumtaUa^-itl-L^dru by Klidfi Eliia. Fenian text,
' i Indtca, Tol. ii, p. 781.
THE DE QUINCI8, EAKLS OP WINTON*
(4^ S. X., xi., xii. passim; 5«» S. L 98.)
I do not pretend to be able to enter into this
question respecting these Earls of Winchester,
which has been argued with much leiuming, though
their early history does not yet «eem to be aatis-
fcictorUy cleared up. Having, however, been led.
for other objects, to read over a number of old
charters, I have had my attention drawn to refer-
ences to the De Quiucy liuuily, and aa I do not
ftnd that these have been noticed by any of your
correspondenU, it may assiut Anolo-Scotus and
Mr. SiiiTu in their researches if I give, in the
briefest manner, the purport of these charters. The
first to which I refer is in the "liber de Dtj-
biu*gh," presented to the Bannatyne Club by
Mr. Spottiswoode, and there at Ko. 138 it reads
thus : —
** OtnnibiiM, kc, Eog«nii de Quinoy, comes Wintonle
et conBtabulanuB Scocie, eteniam in Domino aaJuiem.
Norerit univtirsitu T&stra no« divine pietatis tntuitii et
prosalntc anime nostre et Alyenore Bponse meeetpro
amtnabus AlanL de Galwytha et Helene alie sue quondanL
sponao nostre/* kc.
Then he goes on to say that he gives " totum
boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod " to the Abbey of
Drj'burgh. Like idl other charters of this chartu-
lary no names of witnesses are given, but Mr.
Eraser, the learned editor of these charter?, thinki^
that the date may be circa 12ik:i This, however,
is somewhat too early, as Roger could not have
assumed the title of Earl of Wmchester before the
death of his father^ Seher, which took place in the
Holy Land a.d. 1219, as shown by Mr. Smith.
The next charter (No, 139) is ** super piscaria in
lacu de Mertonn/* which Roger gives ** pro salute
anime nostre et Alienorc spouse nostre," but he
does not refer to his former wife, Helen. Again,
in another charter (No. 141), he gives to the Abbey
of Diyburgh " totum toftum meum quod habui in
villa de Hadyngtoun, illud scilicet quod dominus
Willelmus quondam rex Scocie (1165-1214)
domino Kobcrto de Quincy avo meo dedit," &c,
Mr. Eraser attaches the same date to this charter,
but as Wdliam the Lion died in 1214, and he is
here spoken of as *' quondam rex," the charter
muat be later. I shall not, however, enter into Uie
question, but merely give these references for tlie
consideration of Anolo-Scotus.
Then going to the *' Liber de Melros ''presented
to the Bannatyne Club by the Duke of Buccleuch
in 1837, I find the name of Robert de Quincy
(No. 39) mer' " ^ i a charter of Robert Avend,
de Escheda^ - to the Abbey of Melrose
"terram me..... .-. ^..^t•hedale, scilicet, Tumlochec
et Weidkerroc." We arts \:o\i m ^^ O^asxVtx ^\^^
this b a confttmaUoTi ot t\u& ofvygaisl ^gy«»X^'«^^^V
130
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[$** ,ri. Auc.15,74.
him (Robert Avenel) in the reign of ^lalcolm
(1153-1165), and which he now requests his Lord,
William the Lion, to confirm. Tlie witnesses to
the original charter are the foOoiring : —
"Ricartlufl epiflcopue SAncti Andrce, Engclrftmiii epis-
coptu dt Ol&aifue, Gregoniu episcopos de DnnkeK (jAU-
fridua ibbbaa de dmnferliDe. Jobanoes ftbbas de kelcbo,
Alnredtii ablMU de strivelin^ Nicholauf canccOarius,
M&ttheus iirchtd!acoiiu9, Walleuus conies^ Duaecanua
cotnep. Ported gduim. Malcolmui come», Ricardu^ de
morevill, Wal tenia filiii* ftlAoi, Darid oUfurd, Rohfrtus
de fjuincf, Ricardua ctmiin« Bemardua filiui bricn,
ll*jbertu* de berkele, Wolteni* clericiia, Walteni* de
berkele."
Thi? recited charter is nndnted, hut as we know
that Tn^elraiii was appointed Bishop of Glasgow
lat Nov,, 11G4, and Malcohn TV. died 1165, it
^xes the charter to one of these two years. Then
again the name of Robert de Quincy appears in ti
charter (Xo. 42) of Williaiu the Lion, confirming
a grant of Robert Avenel of lands in E»kdale to
the abbey. There is another charter (No. 49) to
which I would dniw particular attention : —
*' Omnibufl, kc. Era quondanfi uxor Roberti de quinci
Balutem. NorerTt uQiTersitaa Testni foe via;ind ftcru$
terre arabilis ernis<e cnniiguai! metis gmngie de edmund-
■tone eC eas do, kc^ pn'o lAlute domint me! Willelmi
regis Scocie et . . . , pro aniTnabiia dominonim m^onam
Boberti de quincy ct Walteri de Berkeley et ftolandi
fratria niei efc Johannii filii mei et Chriatiae Bororie
mee»" kc.
Again, at the commencement of the reif^n of
Alexander IL (1214), he coniiram nil the lauds
that had been j^ranted in former rei;jn'^ to the
Abbey of Melrojje, and the lirst two witnesses are
" Willelmus de Boacho, eancellarius ineiL^, SeiheruH
de Quinci comes Wintone." Air^iin, we have the
sauie Klnvr Alexander (No. 278) condmiLng a
charter gnxntin^^ the land *' de Rjisawe,'* in which
the name of no;jjer de Quincy appeal's. It is dated
** a pud R<^>ksbiirjEr Anno regni douiini regis duo-
decimo Septimo die Martiss,*- i. c, 1226,
I hfivc a tew more references to these De Qulncis
from other charters, but^ to avaid occupying loo
much of your space at one time, shall, with your
permission, return to the subject in a future paper.
C, T. Ramaqe.
MACAtTLAT ON IMlLTON AND SrEXSKR (5*^ S. il.
44.)-^FiTZHnrKixs objects to Macauhiy's assertion,
in his essay on Milton, that Paradut Ritjained is
superior to every poem which has since made its
appearance. This is, I am well aware, considering
the great poets who have lived Kince Milton^s time,
a strong assertion on the part of the briOiunt essayist,
but I cannot help thinking that he h nevertheless
right. It is very difUcult to speak positively in a
matter of criticism, as every one >viil naturally be
guided to a certain ext^ent by his or her own personal
tastes and predilections ; but, according to my own
judgment, the greatest things whkh English poetry
has achieved since Milton's death are Words-
worth*« Ode on Iniiinniiom of /wmarfaiifi/. ftod -
parts of the fourth bix*k of the E^fcutiiQjn. ; ByronVj
Address to the Ocean, and the stanzas on Walerloo» i
both in Ckikh Harold; Shelley's Adomiif; GrajRi
£lf(jy; and perhnps to these I may add the Battle 1
of Flodden Field in Afflrmi<m,^all written befotvJ
1825, the date of Macaulay's essay. Now, b«|
would be a bold critic who would niiiintainl
tliat any one of these lofty flights of the Muse- 1
is equal to the incomparable f^ --*; r f,fj
Athens in the fourth l^ook of Para ttd, \
a description which is, I believe, uii» ,., . tveuj
in the pcetry of ancient Greece. Whm wo re*
member that our divine Milton never siiw Athens*!
with his bodily eyes, our adrainition of his genius]
is lost in wonder at the astonishing power of J
imagination which could thus assimilate what He I
could only have known through books, and refiro-l
duce it in such a nmnner as to present us with a I
picture of " the eye of Greece, mother of arts and I
eh^quence,^ immeas^unibly superior to any evefj
penned by a traveller who had actually vinited it,|
The poet's description of imperial T' ^ 'Ughl
quite worthy of ]m genius, is h:ii 1 toj
that of Athens. Some people might ari i
tn wonder at this, knowing that Milton 1'
Rome, whereas he had never visifced Alhtii? ; Luv ■
that it is so only proves how detply imlnie^d th<r|
poet was with the spirit of Greek literature. It i«l
alsf> a proof of the fact tlmt the eye of imaginatiottj
really sees more clearly than the bodily eye.
FiTznopKiNS differs from Macaulay in hil
opinion of the Facrir Queme, Macaulay complaioy
that it is tedious. I am so ardent an athnirer '
Spenser myself, that I am only too ready to take
up the cudgels when I hear him depreciated ; an "
not very long ago you were so kind as to insert
note of riiine in which I drew attention to th9
singnhir fact that Sir John, now Lonl, ColeridgeJ
in his lecture on Wordsworth at Exeter, did no
even damn Spenser with faint pmisc, but simpl/
ignored his name altogether in speaking of ih^
greatest English poets. Notwithstanding, howJ
ever, my iitrong nppreciation of Spenser, I do r»o^
feel disposed to he very angry with !il;itiiidiir».
feeling certain in what sense he meant that thoj
Faerie Quccm is tedious. I once re4ui the
right through from beginning to end, but this is i
feat which I have only accomplished once. Like
FiTznoi'KiNs, I trouble myself very little about
the allegory, and only read it for its poetry. I do
not suppose I sludl ever read the poem from he-
ginning to end again, but parts of it I have res *"
(and hope still to read) so often that they >**'<> lu 1
be inseparably hound up with niy very *
e. g.y the Bower of Bliss, Una and the \\
the Cave of Mammon, and a hundred ot i
poetical descriptions scAtt-ered through
Having thus expressed my great adhiUimoM
Spenser's poet^, I trust I ah«dl not b*s considc
NOTES AND QUERIES.
131
I to him Lf I Bay thiit I think the Faerie
h tedious to rwul right tliroiigh, at any
re«d thn>tirrh more th(4n once. Its length
eat, being nearly equnJ to that of the Iluid.
fittij^ and the Ailiuvl together, that S{>en-
•nius would Imve hud to he almost super-
to eouhle hlni to Bostain so great a work
qnally lofty wiBg right through to the end,
er booka Jire not^ except^ perhflpa, here and
oual t*. the e^irlier ones.
uhiy terms Spenser tedious, I am
^ only nienn it in the sease in
fc i^c«U hman, of whom I hare been told,
►cott '^prohi," It shows no disrespect to
Biriotui novelist to feet that his descriptions
me lire tometimes rather long dmwn out ; nor
show any disrespect to him who was ubove
?ts the "Pfiet of the Beriutifrd, to feel that
Ihof arms J with which the Fatrit ^luetric. so
B resound.^i, at length palls on the ear.
pfor myself, I would gladly exchange some
& "hattjules tierce ^' for a few more Bowers
and Garden,** of Adonis. That Macsniky
ly iiUve t4j Hpenaer's ^^nt merits, la suffi-
©rinced by his tenniufr him, as he docs in
f on Bunyanj ** assuredly one of the greatest
i_ev€r lived." Jonathan Buuchier.
I
CoLMAN (5*^ S. i. 487.)— The short
*A Reckoning with Time," consisting of
it&nzas (in all seventy-two lines), was puh-
Iritli other fugitive pieces, in 1818, under
» of Fodical VagarUi. In a foot-note the
remarks that '* Reckoning with Time "
•cd three or four years ago, at the request of
^1 a monthly publication, whence it was
Bo a few work>i of a similar description.
W^iiB fir^t purposely written to be intro-
J the present tale, viz., Low Ambition; or,
^gml Death of Mr. Dan, a,nd has been seen
■bts a little n^ore fugitive (perhaps) than
Kthe author trusts he may he excused for
I it in the place of its original dei:tination.''
iinall v<i!inn»' mKo contains — " An Ode to
k"; **The Lady of the
■ygig''; "Two Parsons;
rSftle of a Hhirt '; and ** Vagaries Vindl-
I Joeni addressied to the Reviewers.
W. Platt.
Club.
ik the enclosed must be the ** Reckoning
fflie,^ by George Colman the Younger, of
our corresfK/ndent J. C H. is in search.
I ;»ifMriM 1,1,,, where it Ls to be found, but
many (oh, how many !) ye^rs
lace book, I have much plea-
a copy, and shall be please<l
dw ledge it with real name and
initials beinf^ those of two friends
of mine, I am anxious to know if cither of them ia
the appl leant.
**A RicKoiriKo wiTB Triti.
Bj George Cotman the Younger.
Come on, old Time ! nay that i« staff;
Gaffer ! thou coin'et on fas^t enough ;
WingM foe to feather'd Cupid !
But tell me, Sftudrnwi I e*er thy grains
Have multiplied upon my brams
So thick to make me stupid.
Tell me, Death's Joumevman ! but no ;
Hear thou »ty speech ; t will not grow
Irrev'rcnt while I try it.
For tliou^jh I mock thy fliglit, 'tis said!
Thy forelock fills me with such drfod
/ n>er€r takt ihte hy %L
List thou old lit Wtxtt and To ht/
I 'U state teconnts Hwixt thee and me :—
Thou fcav'st me first the meaAles ;
With tcethiner ^Tould'st have taken m© off,
Then mnd'nt me with the hooping-cough
Thinner than fifty weasels.
Thou gav'st small-pox (the dragon now
That Jenner combats on a cow) ;
And thetj some seeds of knowledge ;
Grainf of Grammar, which the flails
Of pedants thnuh upon our tails
To fit us for a college.
And when at Christchurch 'twas thy sport
To rack my brains with sloejuice port^
And lectures out of numl>er ;
When Freshman Folly tiuftfTs and stni^.
While liruduate Dulness clogs thy wings
With Mathematic lumber.
Thy pinions next (which, while they ware.
Fan alt our birth^iays to the grareji
I think. eVr tt vtm prudent,
BttUooned from the schools to towni
When 1 was parachuted down
A dapper Temple student.
Then murh on Dramas did I look,
And «»lighted thee and jfrcat Loid Cot*^
Congrtvf beat Biachtont hollow ;
Shakspeinre made all the statutes stalc#
And in mi^ crown no pleas had EuU
To supersede Apollo*
Ah, Time J Those raging heats, I find.
Were the mere Dog Star of my miod —
Hnw c*>ol is retrospection.
Youth's ^audv Summer »olstice o'er.
Experience* yields a mellow itore,
All Autumn of rf flection.
Why did I let the god of song
Lure me from Law t*! join his tbronir,
GaU'd by ^otikc *li^ht appLaases f
What's Tcrte to A when versus B 1
Or what ' John Bull/ a Comedy,
To pleading John RulVf caoaes?
Hut though my childhood felt diteaset
Though my lank ptir^e, tm^wolVn by feev
Some rag,' ' ' .^ r>etted,
Still honest CI I moat true
To thee (and fiii,. , , ys foo|
I 'tn very m\kQh \nj^«l^Vb4^
132
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(5»B.n. Atrial 15,71.
For tbou Luist miule me a^oMy tough.
Inured mc to each day ihaX's rougb^
In hopefl of culm to-morrow ;
And Vfhen. old Mower of us aJl,
BeDe&lh thy Bweeinng «cyth« I fall.
Some ftv dtarJrUiidt will wrrow.
Then thottgli my idle prose or rhyme
Should half-an-uour outlive me» Time,
Pray hid the atone-engrft?cr§.
Where'er my iKnies fiod churcbyiird room,
Simply to chifcl od my tomb,
' Thank Time/or all hiifavomrt / * "
Sam. Bell.
The first edition of hk Poctiad Votaries was
publislied in 4to,, Id 1812. This I have not seen,
but the second edition, smflll fevo., Longmans, 181-4,
is now before nie, and in it I find LLe piece which
J, 0. H. is in search ol\ "A Reckoning with
Tune," the firat lines of which he has not given
quite correctly ; the true readiug is —
*' Come on* old Time ! nay thftt is atuff;
Gaffer ! thou com'st on fast enougrh ;
Wing'd foe to fe^ther'd Capid ! "
E. V.
Cfunbridgo.
Adam's First Wife (5**^ S. L 387, 495.)^
Folck Lebahn, in the notea to Goethe'a Faust,
pp. 599, COD, gives the following :■ —
'* Ala Gott im Amfang den ersten Ad&m im Pariuliej
eiosam f^schaffen, hat er geaae;t : Eb ist nicht ^ntj daaa
dieBer Meii»ch olkein sei^ bat inm dcsholb ein Weib am
der Erden gtsohnfTent ihoi gleich, und dieaelbigo Lilia
geheiisfteo. Alsbiild haben diese iwei aii£efang«n niit
einander xu hadera und zu zankon, und nat 4&.S Weib
jcesprochen: Icb will dir nicht unterwUrfig »ein; und
der Mann sprach ; Ich will aucb nicht UDi«r dir aein,
eondem tiber dich herraclien, denn dir gcbiibrt unier-
thMuig lu sein. Da antwortet dfts Weib : Wir aind beide
gleicb, und keinoa iat beAser ala daa andere^ darum du«s
wir beidc aiis der Erde gema«ht Bind, und sind also
UDgebonnun und widorspUQEtig gegen einander verblie-
ben. All nun die Lilis geteheo, da^ cs keine Einigkeit
zwiscben ihnen geben werde, bat aie den beiligcn Xamen
^Schem hamphortucJi {dz& Ui der heili|fe Kamen Gottea
Jehova, mit aeiner heimlichen Cabali^tischcn Auelegung,
djiwider Luther mu Biiclileia gcichrieben hat) aus-
geaprochen, und i^t uhbald damit in der freicn Lult hin-
weg geflogen. Ua ppr&ch Adam zu Gott: Uerr der
ganxen Welt, daa Weib, da» du mir gegeben baat, ipt von
mir gefiogen. Da achiokto Oott der Lilia droi Engcl
na«h, Senotf Samenoh Sanmanffefopk, und eprach zu
Ihnen : Will sie wieder zttriick kebren, wobl und gut, wo
aber nicht^ to solkn idle Tage hundert von ibren Kin-
dern sterbon. Alao jageten dieae En^cl ibr nach, uud
crreichten sie iiber dem Meer. da ea eehr ungeatiini ge-
weaen, ebeo an dem Ort, wo die Egypter haben eollen
hemaeh ertrinken^ und Koigeten ibr den Befehl Oottea
an. AU aie nber nicbt geborchen nnd xurbckkebfen
woUte, aprachen die Engel . Wir wollen dich in dem
Meer eraiiufen, wo du nicbt zurilck kehreat. Da bat
Lilia, sie ftollten sie doch nur bleibeu laseen* denn sic set
nur cr»ebaffcn, dasa sie die jungen Kinder vom acbten
Tag, von ibrer Gcburt her, wenn o^ ^' ' ' ^cien, und
vom jEwanzigsten Tag, wcnn es ?: an, pUgc
und b'jdte. Ala golehca die En^cl I: I'teu bio rIo
mit Gewalt nehmcn, uud wieder zuni Adutu fUhren. Da
gehwor ihnen die Lilii rinen Bid, daas flo oft aie ibren
(der Eiigel) Nomen odcr Ge*tn!t, n«f firrfm TJ^Jttfl. 1*<t-
jKament oder anderswu
keine Gewalt iiber die 1
thneiimcbtazuLeide tL- . .»
und diescn Flucb und titrate ericiden woUe^ daw aiie
Tage von ibren Kindern bundert *terl»«»Ti «<»nt^fi. E«
■ina also bemacb alle Tage hundfi
Teofel von ihren Kindern gostorl>
die Ursaohe, warutn wir dieae i
Kamca odcr PergamentZctttd icLrcibeu u\
iren Kindern anhangen, dasti namlicb, wen
dieae Zottel oder Ge^cbriftaiebt, aie an ihren Lju »:c(iLUJ^'..
und den Kiudern keinen Schaden thuc. — (Brn i$ir<f,J —
Von oincm Teufelsgesptinat in Wcibdgestalt verit lirn c5
aach die Juden, welche in der Hammer em
terinn inwendig und aurwendig un die Th^
Wand und um daa Bctt : Adam, Cb^t*-
achreiben, d. h. Adam, Eva, heraus dn 1
'* Adam aoll nacb ficiner Veratoiiaunj
diese, wider seinen liVlllen, mit der Lili^ loiJ JaIuc hm;;
lauter Riesen und bJ>8e Geiflter gezeugt haben. — (Geneiii
v.1,2,3; vi.l,2,3,4,r
J. C. Glouoil
Tiverton.
" Built here for his ekvt " (5*** S. ii 7,)—
Bentley iiTitea a very pregnant note upon lhi»:-^
** To raise sense from more nonaenae ia much tMUr
and surer of acceptance than to ndae atill better artu«e
from good and tolerable. No doubt God bml
receptacle for Satan and hie crew ; but to tu
it not for his own tnvy^ aa if he could ever wish m cuaijjt
Xlacea with them, isaomothing eitravaganL Let'a reduce
Liiton's own words :—
* Th' Almighty had KO butt
Here for hjB envy; will not drive ua hence.*
No butt, no object, no acope for his envy here ; hecAiuiol
think the place too good and delightful for ua."
Richardson, in his I}iction€t;}'y^ gives ** ^ ' **
n neuter substantive equivalent to bu:
cites the passage from Dryden's Anni' ^m r
Archery and niusketry butts are alwa}*s tbi»i:.^
builded or built, and it would be y^ry easy t^
account for the thing huiU becoming synonyn" i^
with a huity supposing we could find an}' such u v
of it in any special trade or local dialect.
C. A. Warp.
Mayfair.
and also applied to the
fact equivalent to our ou ^. , . ,
subaltern, an ensign. It is used more tbitn onoe
in Shakspeope ; —
" This ia Othello** Qnclenl, aa I take it.
The same indeed ; a very valiant fellow/*
And again :—
'' 0(A, So pleaae your grace, my anckni ;
A man he ia of honesty and trust ;
To hia conveyance I assign my wife.'*
Othdto.tl.
J. 8. Udai.
Junior Alhenieum Club.
Is not atieiint or antunt equivalent to tAti^ f
** Lord Westmoreland Ida ancvent raiide.
The Dun Bull he rays'd on bye"—
i
iri&
V^&.U.A\iQ.U, 74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
I^js the f}]d bnlLid ; luid ut n later date, almost
• d by J. IL B., we find the word, used
tiie sense of ancieot or ensign hearer,
le in Went worth Church, co. York : —
Auno Domini 1(^67 : hj the appomtment
_ liurl of 8traffbrdo this itono U kid over the
Hr. Elch&rd Mftrrie, whu died in the ;e&r 1635^
ir«rdl and ancient to his lonUhip^a cTcr most
f&ther Thomtfl Eorle of BtrAforde/'
Clk,
indent^ in the sense noted by J. H. B.^ means
MvdArd-ljearer. The word ia of constant occur-
rence in our older literature, to signify an heraldic
etiK " - ^ ittle standard. Fidatati' says of his
m* r y are "ten times more diahonoumbJe
ihiMi . u hw^ed ancimt" — 1 Hmry IF, Act iv,
«c. 2. There ia an order in the Leycester Cor-
Rsipondence, A.D. 1586, for "causing the foraaid
fiotudgiprH to he kept under their auneicnta^^^ p. 17.
The balitvi of Tfi^ J^mng in fA« North tells how-^
^£r1e PercT there hli aiicy<n( aprcd^
The Half^e-Moone thininf aII to f^ire ;
The HoTiooA anc^tat bad the croiSt
And the fire wounds our Lord did btare."
Edward Psacocs*
i inttgn in modiani phnyieolo^. The atUi^t
[ Wm the juune given to a fstandjirdV and also to li^
I bMrtr. In ShakBpetire we have ** ancient Pistol/*
GolglftTe, in hia IMdiofiary^ English iind Frendi,
1960, giveir " An Ancient or Eoaigno in warres,
£Djeigne"; and under *'EniM*igne/— ** An Enyigne,
JUintient, St^uiiLkrd hearer ; he that, in war, carries
}, goUquts of a coni|XLny of foot/'
JoffNSON BaILY.
ThJj* is a religious^ and not a military term. The
mmiinU in ** Lord Pett?rborough*a regiment against
|||0 king " wa8 no doubt a Pnjsbyterian deacon,
eldfvrt or antieiit, for all the:*e terms were, and are,
still u^d in Calvinistic established churches and
m Englitfh Dissenting congregsitions. The term
cifiltfn^ in French ancUn^ w iu*ed in foreign
Luthenui and Calvinistic churches. He is what
the Scotch churches call a deacon. He receive* a
fidnor ordination, and hands the cup in the admi-
~' The Communion. He b &ko a sort of
I. and in iwme con^r^jsfationii is found
' -onage.
Th t-d and
OUUpi.M 1^ I rj i; i>:ipn.''i ludiir^u-r '»i «, aiuuringr, said,
*' Tfiilk to me of your Lonl Bifjhopa ! Lord deliver
mt* *' ' '^ Tv:icon!" The IHciimiTtuire
U> Le La Chatre, Paris, 1855,
oiuL - .^^ .. ii/'iiays: —
I
"ChtiUaC
>md0nn6 ii tm certain nombre
nt ^^nrmi le petiple, lea^aelies
I tipoeedit Je ooiiai«toirc qui
>a, et ao mMntien de la
I^td Peterborough's ehaplAin would be a Cal-
vinist, and an aniient or elder was, therefore, a
necesaarj Aid or asnstant to him.
Jahks Hekkt Bixok*
EAinsL (Sl^ B. I 388.)— This form, apparently
foimd only in Jeremiah xxxL 15, in the Englum
verKLon, may be a misprint, but I suspect other-
wise. If I understand him rightly, Mr, J^Iant is
WTong in saying that it is found in the English
version only, as it is the regular form in the Welsh
veraion, and hencoi perhaps, we may arrive at its
origin. In this way, I thinks it will be found that
tliei"c was at least one Welshman on King James's
Bible Revision Committee, and that he himself
reviiied several portions of the Old Testament. To
him I attribute the form in question* It would
be inte resting to know when it ^t appeareii in
the English version, J. C. Ukkokk*
P.S. — Spurrell, in his Cmmarihen andiU Neigh^
bourhood, aays that Biahop Richard Daviji, D.D..
translated Joshua, Judges, Euth, 1 Samuel ana
2 Samuel, in the English Bible in 1568* and
1 Timothy, Hebrews, James, 1 and 2 Peter, in the
Welsh New Testament. What Ls Mr, Spume tl*s
authority for his first statement, I do not know ; but
the authority for the second is Saleabury's Welsh
New Testament, first published I5G7.
The form " Rahel " is warranted by the Hebrew,
the letter h representing the Hebrew letter if eyth
I the ^aUtural /*;, Hryin is (Uicays so represented
when initial, **<;., Hannali, Hermon, Horeb, Hophni,
with two exceptions, Enoch, Eve ; and nearly
always when in the middle of a word, «, /?., Beth-
lehem, Gehasi, Ahasuerus, Ahaz. ** RaheV' there-
fore, is more correct than the well-known Maehel,
A% L. Mayhew.
Oxford.
I have in fiiy possession a copy of the Enjgllsh
Bible in which the name of " Bachel " Ls printed
in the fifteenth verse of the thirty-first chapter of
Jeremiah. Gborge Elub,
St. John's Wood.
more accurate form of the
_ „ .,.1 ,.j T^^chel, In the
1 throughout^
..-,.-.. , ..m of 1611, and
in Jeremiah xxxi. 15 only.**
'jve s article in Smith's />if-
Vitk also a foot-note, t«v.
J. Manuel.
4'^B.iiL220; xiL 128.]
"RaheP* is **thc
familiar name el ' "^
older English \<
butsnr^ivp-^ '" +
in our p^e^'
—See Mr. C ^ .
iionanf of the Mtbk.
" Rachel," p. 988.
[8ee'*N,&a/
KxtniR AKD Spkll (5"» S. i. 348.)— In the
Skiichesfrom Cnmhri^ige,^. 13, Mr. Leslie Stephen
says, *'We have now every game that lilies the
pages of BtlVi lA/ty except the profoundly mys-
tenons knurr and spell/* Bo ]Mr. Bi/:**^^ \* iseis*
alone in \m c\\™%\ly i^XymV X^sa^ ^xel^. l^^fw'
134
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[5^i,lLAcc. iri,7c
I take It to be tlie same ua ** northern spell,*' tliousxb
which is the proper name I eiinnot guess ; and for
the " profound mystery '* of it Mr* Blood (also
Mr. Leslie Stephen, if he cluance to see this) is
referred to Strutt's Sports and Pastimes^ p. H>9
(Hone*a edition), where it will appear that the
^i^ame is played with a trap, bat, and ball^ the
contest being simply who shall strike the ball
farthest with a j^fiven number of strokes. If I
remember rights this tigured in the Boy^ Own
Book I used to read twenty years ago,
Charles F. *S. Warrkn, M.A,
This is a common field game in Craven, and
matches are played. The knurr is a small ball of
lignum yiUt'j which is struck out of a wooden stand
by a tiexible stick or wand thiit has a bit of wood
at its end. This stick is the spell. Some philo-
logists have asserted that knurr huH uolhing to do
with the wooden bidl, tin* name of the game being
a corruption of " northern spell." I do not fall
in with this idea. Htkphen Jackson^
This game is called by Strutt *' northern spelL"
Haliiwell makes knurr the small ball of hard wood,
and spell the trap from which it is struck ; but
Strutt's spelling seems to point to " Norden spiel."
It is very popular in the clothing districts of
the West Eidmg, betting on the crack professional
players, and the conseipieot drinking, being the
attraction- The contest i^ who shall strike the
b;dl to the greatest distance In a given number of
strokes. W. G,
[See " N. & Q." i'^ S. i. 294, 325, 468.1
" Wisdok's bettbh than money," &c. (5^*^ S.
i. 149.) — This volume appean to be composed of
two distinct works. If so, the latter is, I pre-surae*
im English translation of a work by De la Chambre,
a French writer, entitled jL'. 4 rf dt Connotstrc Its
Homm€^^ and published at Amsterdam in 1669,
the year of the authors death.
Gaston be Bkrneval-
Pbikdelphia*
The Lancashire Word " Areawt" (S*"^ S. L
ltf3.)— ^J^^' Entwible, referring to Hones com-
mentary on the woixl aroint, <jUotes his or Bou-
chers allusion to the Lancashire word areawt,
which, he say.^, signifies *jd out, or avmij vnth thcc.
Mr. Entwisle {Sds, in a note, that ** the Lanca-
shire equivalent to this now-a-days is ger cmtC
Hone or Boucher might have been pardoaed for
the mistjdie here made, but it is scarcely excusable
in a Lanciiahiie man. Arcmci means outside, or
out of doors. It has no connection whatever with
the word aroints Thus John Collier, in his Tim
Bohhin \^lVorkSf p, 58), iwiys:— **1 re no soi>ner
areawt boh a threave o' rabblenient wur watch in
on meh at t* dur," which translated = ** I was no
sotmei outside than I found a rabble crowd watch-
ing for me at the door." Agsdn, Samuel Bamford,
in bis ^'Wild Rider" (Hoimbj IChjmfa^p, 74) says:
*' And why cornea a gentleman riding aToueT
And vthy doth he vrander tirtawt i<uch » night ? '*
The wo nl is still in use in the few districts in Lan*l
c^Lshiro where the dialect it? sfxjken. With regard 1
to the wor«l arointj I am pnzzled to determine I
whother it ever was in common use i- ^ hire.
Although given in some of otir verj' ol-
lections of county words, I have jum ....... ,.. ic t'>-j
discover it in the text of any writer of the dialect, 1
and only one of the thirty contributors engaged J
upon the Glossary now in preptinuion professes
to have heard it. This gentleman, 3klr. T, T.
Wilkinson, of Btiniley, a close and conscientious J
observer, haj* heard the word used in the sense of J
stand aside or gel att^y, imd he suggests that it ml
connected with the Icelandic knind and German |
i^tidc. J. H. Nodal.
Heaton Moor, near Stockport.
"A Rowan-Tree*' (5«»S. i. 161)— The word I
'• rowan *' is a probable inversion of om-w#, or it^ I
root, QptLv-os ==-' mountainous, wild, growing wild. ]
A propos of ** aroint,-* we tind roinf tfur^ aDdj
araunte thin' ; and there is the Cheshire rynti
ihee; and we have also arongt. Jamieaon renderal
runt the "trunk of a tree "; and, as a third me«n-|
ing, *' an old woman, t. q. a withered hf<^." Bi*^
gives abio Scottish runt^ **a contemptuou
tion for an old woman,*^ and says in 1
hrund in explained ** nuilier," but particuhuly huta J
the name of a heathen goddess. Again, in Scc»t- 1
land J runt is an old cow; in England, an ox or cow I
of giiiall size. The Belgic rund is a bullock; the j
Geruian no**/, an ox ttr cow, Jamieson says, m\
the north of England, a woman is said to be r«nt^|
when she is fifty years old, it being a questioul
sometimes put to a son— **Is your mother rtifi^afl
yet?" I take it, however, that the nropej etynio-|
logy of aroint is from arry awint, which I 'ot grave I
renders " on afore, away there hoe ; from ihtiJ
carter's cry, arry, and kori ho"
R. S. Cbarsock.
Gray'a Inn.
P,S, — The Norman arr signifies in an- «^ \^
arraigned ; arveii^ arreyn^ antut, is u i
and rcyntm fi^ned; ?«nf, reint^ indicted, . .
fined. The 0*G. haren is rendered vocart^ ciamar
and haro, clamor,
Tliis extract may possibly throw some light on
the derivation of ** ai^oynt " or ** aroint ": —
*'*Aroynt thee/ get ye gone^ bo off! In Cbethin
they Bay 'rynt yc, witch' ; and m^^' -'-^ *
cowa, when they have done milkii
beauties* (Saxon, a-rennan, run < ;
Welsh, rhiD, a cb&imel for vrtitcr, ivbe&cc iiLhincJ. — (J
Bictionaty of Phratu and Fahit, by the Rev. E. Ooblli
Brewer, LL.D.
MaDoC.
» 8, IL Ado. 15,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
I
148.) — This was not the first book prtntet] from
Saatoa t jpes* at lejwt three Saxon books havinrr beeo
prititi?tl in 1567, The earliest of these is believed
to bc\—
** A Teitimonie of ftntiquitie Shewinit thfi ftuncient
~Tlh in %he Church of England, touching the sacntment
r the liodjr mad bInuJe of the Jjord here publikeHy
ebcd. Mid also rece&ucd in the Smxoni iymct abotie
ytnm ngoe . . , Jmprinted «l London by John
Dftj, dvteUing ower Aldengate beneath 8* M&rtjus.'
A cojiy of this curious book now lie« before me.
It consists of seventy 'five numbered leaves, in-
eluding title, followed by thirteen unnumbered.
There tire some |>ei'uliiiritie3 of tbi.^ book that
tieem to hftve ef^^ipetl the notice of bibliofjrapherji,
one uf which h that folios 7H-S6 contain *' The
Louies |»rayer, the Crcede, and the x Commiiunde-
mcntx in the Snxon and JEnglishe toiin;Te/' with a
etrictly liUral ijitfTiinear trandaHon, Is not this
the cfirlicst instJinc« of the kind extunt ? A well-
koowTi t#«iirher of lanj?iK\ge.«T named Hamilton, who
floti ' ' me thirty or forty years af^o, cbiinied
to inator of interlinear tnvnsIatioDP^ and
cTc t. me system of teaching biwed on tbem
Ibr li r 1 1 1 rj ian syitem. His clftinw to originality
were ui^pultrd on the ground that he waa merely
the i^n<i to 'tpply the system, but that Lo<*ke and
AjKjhsim had rteotnmtnded it or something akin to
! it Horf, however, b», at this early date, not
mrr»lr n >ii ^estion, but a practical cxompliHcation
<»f Hum il too, after a lapse of nearly
I thrr t years, claimed m his own.
Oafton de Bkrneval.
rhiiAdciphiA,
A Conjecture (5** S. ii. 26.) — Gronoviua says
MMMgC : —
2Um, VtT^m kax t» t^cun hcJ^eh, Sic habent
Watt M8S. Lambino teste» neque etiam Munatiui
lsprt»baL Bed MftUsp. »on placet; qui ^uspkmtur
h£md9m, nihil f*^m rirfvm. B >*i! Tectioncin fvquitur
JmAm. 6ed a^' f tam r€rum.
ffitcim tocwm mam lectio-
arai pr^chut) *; , r in libro IV,,
Qhmrt. flap. 7, •t i^w ab aliurum truatmnciB matation-
Ibot laf bUtam bic tcrravi/'
It appears then that S. T. P/s emendation is no
coojectoppj after all, but a reading supported by uU
th<i MS8» 'To my mind, ridum is no bad gue*s ;
rertainly more applicable than rertim to audi a
prr»oti lui Antipho. Edmuxd Tew, M.A.
OtD ExoRAVTNGS i**)*^ S. ii. 47.)— I believe that
tlie old Cable of " The Siitvr aod the Traveller " is
tlie rabject of the i
pATnmsox, I t
DMnc fif tbe pninh
in my fioaM^i'Tu I
io a fn^fid. ii
and tlio
■'"■ inquired for by Mr.
have told him the
.raver, for copies were
ii^n they were given
f . V vvofi" disi)08ed of,
them, the
■ dt. TbeiT
was an inscription on the margin tindernciiih, \n
both the English and French lungiuiges.
John- PicKFonitf M,A.
Kewbonroe Rectory, Woodbridge.
T. AixiNfjToN (5^»» S. i. 288.}— Mr. Webb as-
sumes that evcrj'body knows AJJington'si ^'ifmidl
volume of |>ocms." I can find no such name in
Allibone 4 Dutionaiy^ nor in any catalogue. If
Mr. Wbbb will be more precise, perhapsr aotiie of
your readers will be able to supply the information
he asks for. The same remarks apply to hiii *|uery
numbered 3. OLrnAR Hamst.
JSLiRT SoMERviLLE (o^^ B. ii. 48.) — It apjiejirs
from the ** Memoirs " that, when Mrs. Somerville
put on pitper the opinion in question, she had J)een
recently examining m, to her, new aubjecta Seiret's
Analyst Supirieurt and Tail's QiiatcrnionM, Now,
the former of these works in no respect trenches
on the methods of the BitTerential Calcalu«, but
the latter avowedly tends to rephtce the CarteBiaii
Geometry of Co-ordinates. A hiptie of attention on
the part of the venerable writer would account for
the passage. E. C. S.
Hkraldic (5**» S. iL 48.)— In reply to K, the
henildic honours descend to B.'s children oidy.
D. C. E.
The Cre#cent, Bedford.
Dr. Barton's Fvsa (5*'^ 8. li. (17.)— May not
the answer, which St. S with in sa_vs he has been
** supposing •* for the luat fifteen years, be a pifjwn
paiT f Geo. Rippox*
Oxford,
I think I know the reply ; and the fact of its
being hardly printable in these day* will account
for its being le<l to the imagination of the reader.
J, Stores Smith.
The Laurelf^ Chesterfield.
The JurM>E& on CjaruiT ('t*^ 8. ii. 27.)— Mr.
ARTnrR AViLLiAMs asks, bow is it that Her
Majesty's judges^ when on circuit, never inter-
clmuge hospitality with th** sberitl* of any English
county except Yorkshire { He states that in
Wales this cue torn does not prevail In Wales
the jadges entertain the grand jury, and the
sheritf is invariably invited ; and for ought that I
have been able to discover, there is no reason why
this should not be also the caBe in England. But
it is quite clear that an interchange of hospitality
would be wrong, for the statute 13 & 14 Charles
II. c. 21, provides that —
•• No person duly ■worn into the office of sheriff ....
sball . . . . in the time of the acaixei held for the county
or shire during hi« ih«rtff»lty keep or maintain or cause
to be mamtaine'l one or moro table or tables for receipt
Of Giitertainment of any ptnon or persona retorting to
the said aniies other tbnn tUo»ve that shall b« ot \\\% tgrntii
family or retinue, nor tbh\\ a\tvV<i ot wevA w^i ^v^***^^
any Judge or Judices ot Sxixvtl' kc«
136
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(y* 8, IL Aco.
The necessity for thie, as set out in the preamble of
the Act, amae "by reason of the g:mit and un-
necessary charges in the time of tisaijies,'* which
had *' of late years been retry burdensome to the
gentry of the ReAhn.'^
Thw Act does not extend to the sheriffs of
London and Middlesex, the sheriff of Westmore-
land, or any sheritf of any city- and -county or
town-and'County. The sheriffs of the City of
London inviirial>ly entertain the judges sitting at
the Old Bailey Mr. Williams probably con-
founds Yorkshire with Westmoreland.
J. RoLAiJD Phillips.
Temple.
MENnELsaoHN (5*^ S. ii* 88) was the grandson
of Moaee Mendelssohn. See The ImiH^rial Die-
tioTuiTy of Univenal Biography (Mackenzie, Lon-
don), Fredk* Kule.
Half-a-hundred correspondents can inform Jav
AiTCH that the late eminent composer (bom Feb. 3^
18(H), died Nov. 4, 1847) was a descendant of the
almost equally eminent philosopher. It htm been
recorded of the great musician's father that he
sometimes spoke of himself as having been eompli-
meDiCHl in his youth as the son of the famous^
Mendelssohn, and in his latter days as the faihir
of the famous Mendeksohn.
Henry Campein, F.S.A,
*'The Widow of the Wood ^' (5"» S. IL 88.)—
The book about which your correspondent innuires
ia siflid to refer to the Wolseley family, of Wolseley
Hal!, in Staffordshire, and it is supposed to have
been written by Benjamin Victor, dramatist. The
" widow " in question is reputed to have been
Anne, relict of a Mr, Whitley. She, according to
the scandalous chronicle now In view, induced Sir
William Wolseley to manr}^ her. as pirt of a com-
plicated scheme, which it is not needful to repeat.
Your correspondent will fin«l a copy of this book
in the British Museum Library (U)81, d. 13/2),
with the title *^ The Widmv of ihc Wood^ London,
printed for C. Corbett, opposite St. Dunstan-s
Churchy in Fleet Street, jfuccLv." The book was
suppressed, but it does not appear to be very rare,
F, G. S,
The anthor of this work is said, in Bohn's
LotvndeSj which see for note, to have lieen Benja-
min Victor. The work was published in London
in 1755, 12mo. 3^. ; and reprinted at Qlnsirow in
1 7 69. A more lengthened account of * ' Th o Wi d ow '^
will be found in the Gentkman^s ilfo^etstnCjVol. xxv.
(1755), p. nh K V.
Watek-Hark (5*"^ S. ii, 8J>,)— The paper is
Dutch paper, and the nmrk on it represents the
genius of Holland holding, on a staff, the Hat of
Liberty, which long precedefl the ^*«/do-clas»ical
Phrygian cap now used with the same significance.
** SnoTovER '' (6*^ S. il 91.) — Is there any other
means than conjecture of tracing the supposed
relationship of " Chateau Vert'* with •VShotorer^!
In Dovfy^day Book it appears too* 'i 1) j
as "Scotorne," with the other re*: - off
"Stanuorde, Wodestock, Coxnberie, hKimuMie,"
Ed. Marshall.
Be. Dee's Magic Mirroe (5*** S, ii. H6,) — j
This celebrated relic of the absurdity of the seven-
teenth century is quite safe and sound in iho I
British Museum, It is a pink-tinted ghiss hall, |
about three and a half inches in diameter,
Geoboe Ellis,
St John*8 Wood.
The Scottish Family of Edgar (5*"* S. L 25,
75, 192, 355, 430, 5(X).)— X. applies very UB-
parliamentary expressions in his last ; howe
special pleader must be excuseii, I ain jur
in treating his remarks on two missing di
its a skilful diversion to give a general character ti>'
his criticism. At the same time, I am sure thst
other readers will not find the omissionfl of wf
he complains.
X, says that it is ** quite puerile bringing in Ui«'
Lyon King of Arms when the question is as to the
judgment" shown by the author of the work.
Here, I think, X. is a little disingenuous, The
retd drift of the whole discussion is tx) attempt U^\
convince the public that the Rev. John Edgar,
Hutton, was the heir male of Edgar of Newton,
and, by implication, the heir male of Weddprlie
and the judgment of the an^l^' '• ^»*^rris to
impugned simply and solely 1 has no^|
professed his belief in such ji. but
left the authentic materials which b^
to speak for themselves. This beiu;.
object of X., — the author having (as may
by any reader of the '* Account of the 8i
Edgar'-) refrained from passing any judgment^
maintain (always keeping in view the pretensior
attempted to be established) that, not only
there nothing puerile in pressing X* to
crucial test of the Lyon Office, but su *
is the only one worth anything, and •
tried I make X. a present of all the rt'
which he has raised, and which I I
him well employed, at any rate, until An
EpiscorAL Titles (4^* S. xii. passim ; b^ S. i
92, 310,)^Mr. Tew and his new ally are f^rtniftljl
not at one on this subject. Mr. Tew acl^ r
the power of the Church t-o do many thii
independent of Sta^te authority or intertc
and declares that to deny this *' would l)e
ing up the rankest P^i
Street's Erastianism i
asserts that to say the iJiiHiin <iin «-tMiM i n^n
which the civil power may or may not enforce i
a U. Ana, IS, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
137
■ in t
mk
rlmt juridical absurditjf an impt-
He then proceeds to ask^
uh ^" and, with regard to the
were his own question by
on that it is "entirely a
; and, with r^jard to the
by the ahnost equally
llartliog declai'utiim tbiit it ifi '^only a yoluntary
4lgifiisaition and private corporation accordlngf to
tlte \aw by whose pennies ion it exists/' as though
in the dap of the penal statutes, when the law did
nol pennit it to exist, it were not a Church at
Jit It is really quite usc4ei5s to argue with one
iffco seems to think that churches only exist as
portion H of the State, or by legal permission. To
argue such questions^— which, of course, lie at the
loot of the Church t* power to grant titles,— would
leo<! tr. Jf^tMissiona which are very properly for-
bh; pages of "N. & Q."
^i ippeaiB to me to concede the whole
irm when he acknowledges, " I do not, there-
deny to the Church the power of conferring
titles as'Lortl/ &c." The poiPtr, then, is
flmied ; and Mn. Tew only denies that there
AM ever been an authoritative exercise of such
power. My answer is, tliat the custom of cen-
taiieA 13 liuffieient proof of the exercise of that
power. There has never been a period when
titles of honour have not been given to biflhopt*,
Skom the days of which Binf^ham wiite^ (Book II.,
c&ap ' ' '^r. the present time : —
** jicaki in the uiual phrase and style of
ilK>- irnep, when be calls bishops princts 0/ tA«
J»*o/ it wiu another u?iia> title that wa9 givfn
tben irs from Optatus, and several paMaget in
fli JcTom»», HHOt to diftinKiilih them from aecnlar priiices,
mnlly stylee them prinjcipe* EctUna^ priuca of ih4
Mr. Tew, however, requires " the production of
ttbsoUite ainon of the Church assembled in
council*" I cannot produce such a c4inon,
fftn ^fn. Tew produce im ubjsolute law by
een's right to the title of *^ Majesty"
wiL> Clearly the pGwar lies in the State
of graatin^ — possibly it may lie in the sovereign
of Msumin^ — such title, just as the p(m'€r lies in
' ■ ' f trraji ting titles to bishops. But the
act by which the title oi '* Majesty "
wa or even assumed, by the sovereigns
^ 1 entirely wanting. The various and
cop' ^ vmenta made by writers on the
•Bk iire clear prooft* that no valid
•qlL — -»n lii^ ■4r^^MJ1ed; and eonse-
qasiiti^. . custom must be
Meepbtfl \^ ^ L- exercise of that
pvwer.
JIf lh«fl, the ^ihicen h,i- a right to the title of
^\tjiW' V she has, notwith-
lini. : authoritative law or
iitks the bishops equally have
. .idfiM, oQtwilbataadiiig a similar
^haci eon:
absence of an absolute canon of the Church aa*
scmbled in genernl council.
I should much like to achieve Mb. Tbw's oon-
yersion ; but he is not likely to hold his present
views without reasons which, to his own mittd,
appear unassailable, though he has now conoeded
much ; and whilst I fully appreciate the pleasure
of an argument with him, 1 fear that if the dis-
cussion were to l>e carried on until one of ua
were convinced by the other, the readers of ** N.
& y." would become very tired of the duel.
H,P. D.
Surely Mk. Tew is uoreasonable when he says
that nothing will satisfy him but ** the production
of an absolute canon of the Chui*ch assembled in
general council." Unreasonable, I say. becftuse
there is so much of " mofl pro lege " in the Church,
that if everything were denied unless decreed by
a gene ml council, we should be shorn of half our
wonihip and much of our faith, t.g,^ has the Atha-
nasian Oeed ever received the sanction of an
absolute canon of a general council ? The title
" Lord," I suppose, rests on authority very similur
to that which gives ** Countess '* to tlie wife of an
Earl, tuid ■ * Lord " or " Lady '^ \o the younger chil-
dren of Dukes and Marquises. It is worthy of
note thiit when the bishops of the Scottish Epis-
copal Church addressed the Duke and Duches« of
Edinburgh on the occasion of their murring^, the
official reply, addressed to " The Right Rev. the
Bishop of Moray, Ross, and Caithness,'^ of the Prin*
cess, commenced **My Lord."* Surely this is an
official recognition of the right of a bishop to that
title, E. L. Blekki>'sopp.
[This discussion is now closed.]
"Reoinald Trbvor'' (4**» a TiiL; 5"» S. L
ptiMim ; ii. 19.)— -I suppose I must now consider
myself convinced that " AnwyP is not a pseudonym,
but a real name ; and therefore I should now like
to know who was the author of the above work,
the bearer of that name, where and when he lived,
and when he died. If your correspondents will
kindly supply this, and any other information, the
matter will be beyond any further doubt. Not*
withstanding the astonishment that is expressed
at my considering ** Anwyl '* might be a pBcudonym,
I do not see there is any matter for surprise. Is it
quite possible for the most ordinary proper tiame
to be a pseudonjTu ? Probably Mr. W. J. BERy-
HARD Smith, who e^ys, on p. 19, that be is "as-
tonished that any doubt should exist as to this
being a proper name/- would be surprised to bear
that " Smith " itself is often a pseudonym, as, for
example, when it is adopted by Jeremy Bentham-
Olphar Hamst,
Kew Bamet, H«rt«.
Mr«. CJowdex Clarke^s **SH*L^%t^AU^ Ci<s»-
138
NOTES AND QUERIES,
II.AtJO-15,*J4. 1
and Mr. Bouc^ffl^' MvinBlelrf but in no de-
tracting spirit, pointed out importttOt omissions
firom Mrs. Cowtien Clarke's SJmhipMrc Concord-
ance of auxiliary words, siieli as **havin|ij*^ »nd
" tbu«/^ when used Bubstantively. With tbe like
feeling, I copy fiom my note-book the following
omissbns :■ —
1. "If/' JU You Lihi It, Act r. sc. 4, L 106 :—
" Your if ts the only peacemaker/'
And agftin in Richard TIL, Act iii. ftc. 4, 1. 77: —
" T*Ik»t thou to me of ifa i "
2. "ShjiU,"' Coriolanus, Act iii. se. 1, L 88:—
" Mark you
Uie absolute shulL"
3. "Bat yet," Antony and (JleopCLtra, Act ii.
Bc. 5, 1, 52 :—
" But yet ifi us ft jailor to bring forth
Some monstrous mulefactor."
4. ** Why -■ and ** wherefore," Vomtdy of Errort,
Act ii. sc, 2, 1. 45 : —
*' Every why hatb a wherefore. "
5. *JNay;' "ji woman's nay,'* lUchard III.,
Act iii. sc. 7, 1. 51 : —
** PJay tbe mttitVa part, atill anjwer nay, &nd t«ke it."
Et seq. I hefirtiJy second Mr. Rclk's suggestion
that the nuuxlter of the line, or, aa I would add.
even the pige or coUunn, of a recognized edition of
Sh4d'S]^earc woidd make Mrs. Clarke's Conmr-
daiict a still more *' fiiithful ^uide."
Charles Ed. Rawlins.
Boekmount, EainhilL
I omitted to number the line of the second
example of the word ftarinff : —
** Your age», of what having" kc.
Tbe line is 875«
M re^ardB the nimihering of lines beinj^
omitted m Mrs. Cowden Clarke's Voncordmia:^
the lady writet* to me, and say a i—
" I think you will ceafle to feel any regret when I tell
you \t was an omiision advifedly miwle. No two editions
of the playi can po^mbly have the lines numl^ered alikcr
and, ft* a proof of this, two editioBfl, published by the
tame bouie, and gupermtended by the name editors, who
advocate tbe lyitem, have nut their linea numbered alike.
Now, the Concordnnct, heing intended for nd^ptjition to
all editions of Bhakspeare's Playa, jjroperly (iivc« no
numbering of lines. We ourselves, having Auperintonded
Tarioua oditiona of Shakspeare, have ample eitperience of
how worse than lucleii for reference ia numbering the
Hnea in hia PUyi."
Fredk. Rule.
«Wmoa» (5»»* 8. L 261, 474.)— If **wig8'^ be
extinct in Bnrbani and Nortbumberland, I wot of
a shop at Grantham, in Lincolnshire, where, unlees
I greatly mistuke, toothsome cates under that title
are still to be had. If you ask for a tea-cake you
will be served with the ordinary disc of currant
bread, which, save in the presence of ** N, & Q./'
I should say is current everywhere ; but express a
wish ioT a wicf, and you will get a confection of
dou^b and seeds, not round, but elongated, after
tbe fashion of a tea-c^ke when it sees its face
** looking wofully long in a spoim/*
But wigs are not necesstirily restricted to carrawa
attractions. Five and twenty ye^rs ago all Grani
bam juveniles knew " Mrs. B— - — , the wig woman^
who frold tbe most delicious pennyworths of ind
geation I can now c^dl to mind ; and these we
what we should in these days call plum bu
I remember lier being excessively indignant witi
a servant of our family who callt-d her, as I belie
everybody else diil, " tbe wig-woman.^'
St. SwiTHis.
This word is not so extinct as Mr. Blekkixbob
supposes. In Hants, a snudl oval cake, with bonflj
in the middle, ifi called a wigg. On St. Audre«
Day, at Leighton Buzzard, in Bcdforrlsbire, an
buns (something like Good Friday buns)
yearly made, and confectioners go round
orders, some days beforehand, for Tandry Wigs, i
St. Andrew's buns. Vnit derivafur '* wig " witi
this meaning i T. W. R,
This name is still giren to tbe plain halffien
buns sold by tbe pastrycooks in Bristol. 1 Imt
asked for them by that name, and been i^uppiio
with them, as long as I can remember, but 1
not recollect to have ever seen tbe woitl gpelt.
DftiTRY House (5«^ 8. ii. 48, 750 — 1
House is mentioned by Stow (see Stow*s Sum
by W. J. Thorns, p. 113), and so called of T
I'hewc DrevrrU, " a worshipful owner thi - '
was of old time tbe town house of tli f |
Ramsey. J. T. Smith has left a \aew ii
remained of tbe old bouse in 1796. I do nd
think there is any print of it at so early a date I
( 'harles IL There is no evidence of it ever barit>||
belonged to Rupert. Cunningham suys only {
he lived there. I should hnve thrjugbt that
Committee for Sale of Senueatrated Lands wouli
have sat rather at Dnvry House, Dmry Lane. It
jippears to have been a grand house, and ia men-
tioned by Btrypo as the aeat of Lord Cmven. The
Olvmpic Theatre occupies tbe site.
C. A. Wabp.
Mayfair,
A view of this bouse^ taken in 179tl
mention of tbe occupants, will be found ir
Londirdanat London, 18i29, vol. iv. p. 3ui.
W. E. B.
"Put to buck" (5t»» S. i. 228, 293 ; li. TC.)— I
have many times heard the word bucking used to
Oxfordshire by old men. The expression '* I have
had a good hychu(f" meAning a ^od t»<H^£<njf.
"Put to buck " I have never heard in Oxfordshire
in the sense in which £. V. osea it^
G. J. Dkw.
Lower Heyford, 0*on.
tffliHi^d^^
0*&ILAv«.15,7't.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
139
PROKtnraATioK of *' Acites " (5*^ S. ii. 68.)^ —
I The ]---■' '- -; of ar^cj? as a dissyllable seems
]io 1 led to the cloae of the century.
' In \«rMu- r i_.j„.jr...ut Eiigluh Hdwlar, Loud., 1087^
we are told tlwt —
♦ Ch m wordj purely Engliah hive a iic^uUar lound
kiritK them both before and after vowelis, ikfon* a vowell
, lo chaoc«, cheap, chino, choke, churl : nfter a vuweU in
aeli, reach, aioh, roch, fach : But in wordu uf a Hebrew
or Qrttk derivation ch flooDda like l\* Slc.
H C* Elliot Beowml
^L^b^£bisDiit«rJ9 Shepherd's CahridaTf the following
HHBMBURience " August '' : —
^■^^BffSi, Perigwt, what shall be the game^
Whertfore with mine thou dare thy rauBtc match ?
Or be thy bagpipei run far out of frame }
Or haih the cranip thy joinU l^numb'd with ache ?'*
W, pEi«CtJBLLr,
T<>rqoay,
NOTES ON BOOKS, kc
P m MS, or " Ont MUTUAL FRIEND," BY CHARLES
DICKENS.
Ix the August number of Scrihuers ^fonthllt
fWnnie Si Co.). Miss Kate Field tellH u curious
jiectingthe above-named MS. The first
rsis story isi that by a favourable review in
tW TiiM^ the sale of the book was greatly in-
CfOftied* and its success established ; '* for even
svoins," saya Miss Field, " can be made or marred
(tjr the pointed criticism of clever quills.'' It in
atuted that Dickena presented to the writer
"S. of the book w hich the letter is supposed to
** maile" by his ** clever quill" in ** ^nitefiil uc-
ledgment of tkit service. The writer of the
question does not seem to have appre-
I AIS. HA highly tis he did the merits of
_ in it. Mr. Dallas, the critic, who is said
to l>4vc"received this valuable honorarium for the
aemces rendered to the author, p^irted from the
llCttflure. *^ And now, with one of those stnmge
tunu of Fortune's wheel, whereby everything^
or h&tefj get.8 upside down, this manuscript
the Atlantic, to find a welcome home in
th« library of Mr. Child." This gentleman, weU
known and much esteemed in this country, resides
in FbikdeJphm, and is proprietor of the The Fhit-
adtinhia Ledger. Miss Field thuH describes
PictcnKS way of employing hia pen, ink, and
*' A!mo4t always writing on thick blue note-paper and
irtth blue tuk, Lickeiu baa been faithful to hii rule in
tjiti manutcript. By unfolding his note paper be has
fonf«xt«d ii Into large-sized letter-paper, and by pasting
Ibk «3ti alitl Urger-6ixed und thicker wLite paper, he has
Siaula the two Tolume« as dui-able m poiaible. Townrdi
tb« eod of Volume Firtt there i» one hit of iuanui><:rt;jt
io black mk. All the reit U in blue ink, bat not always
«f i&f bcd^ and the fineneta and cloeeneM of the writing
I
are enough to render the most amiable of experienced
printers tem}>ortirily insane. There ia no lorer of Dickens
fio urdent as to willingly read a page through, nor would
the most mercetiary peruse both volumca for lew than
their weight in gold. Added to a microscopic chiro-
graphy is erasure after erasure, such aa, 1 am told^ can*
not be found io his earlier manuscripts, marking either
greater care or less fluency of thought. Dcacriptiona
undergo most correction, and so deftly does Dickona
cancel himself, that I defy the greatest expert to de-
cipher what the author doeii not wish to hayo read. . . .
The eraaurea at the beginning of * Podsnappery * ar«
absolutely appalling. The entire first page looks u
though tt hnd been cut into m many pieces as there are
linea^ and then been carefully darucd.*'
Miss Field gives several examples of how
Dickens worked through his story and its diffi-
culties to the end ; and she summarizes the ex-
amples thus : —
'* Most interesting of all are the nine notes preceding
the novel in each volume. Dickens takei the world into
his confidence^ opening the door of ht^ workshop; and ii
curious, well-regulated shop it ii. After thinking out
hia ])lot and charActcrB, Dickena puts down on the right'
hand side of his page the cliapters with dramattj pertonet,^
on the left he tells himself what he ihall dO| or asks him*
eclf questions about the doing, which he answers affirma^
tivcly or negatively, either at the time or after."
These matters are of interest to us alL But
nuich interest also attaches itself to the story of
the original manuscript. We should much like to
know if any other "original'* exists. In these
days, when original letters are supplied according
to demand of the market, a somewhat fuller story
as to Mr. Child's manuscript (which we do not
mean to dispnrage) would be very tieceptable.
The A rdtitedtirt of the CiJtUrciant. By Edmund Sharpe,
M.A, F.R.I.B.A. iSpon.)
In a ouarto form, beautifully illustrated, and printed iit
ft bold, clear type, Mr. Sharpe discusaes and explains the
principles which guided tbeCibterciaiisin planning their
con?entunI hulldingd and in dcHigning their churches.
This work is tho substance of a lecture which Mr.
miarpe delivered, four >ear» ago, at the Royul luEtituto
of Britifth Architects* The views which he then laid
open to his professlooal brethren he now ofiTers to tho
general public, who, by the aid of the illustratione, will
thoroughly comprehend the text, and, perhaps for the
first time, will bare a clear idea of the grandeur of eomo
of the material works of the once famous Cistercian
Order Shortly before the Refarmation the number of
dependencies possessed by the Abbot of Citeaux it Stated
to have been 3;200!
Hiiiory of ihi Christiafi CAurcH, fr&m (he Apottolic Affe
io the Htfonmaiioiif a.i», 64—1517. By J. C. Robertaon,
MA., Canon of Canterbury. Vrd. IV. (Murray,)
Tnrs new and revised edition of Canon Robertson's work
is now half'Way towards completion. The period covered
in the prescDt book is from the death of Charlemagne,
^14, to the death of Ametm, llOi*. Anselra's method of
proving the existence of God by a single argument (the
ohJ€ct of his Faith ui Search of UnderttaHdinq) is shown
ill the prelate's words ; — " Uod is that than which
nothing greater can bo conceived - and he who welt
understanda this will understand that the Dirine Being
exists in euch a manner that His nA^-^^Vi^itnA^ ^;axnv:^
NOTES AND QUERII
li*R'H.Aml5,Tf
even be conceived." Gannilo, a freely inquiring monk
of the time, objected to th\&. '* thiii tlic conception of &
thing does not imply iU estisteaee/' Ctnoti Koberisoa
does not touchy or does not more tlinn touch, on the
knowled^ Anflelm u said to haye had of the CfttMtrophe
by which Rufus was got rid of.
Teb MtruiTHiAH BocrETY. — This Siriaa Botanic Ano-
elation held thetr fourteenth annual aasembly on the
29th of July olt,» at Ormercp, a imaH town between
Martigny and the Great St. Bernard. Dr. Faucormet»
of Nyon, M.D.. the President, presided at the business
meeting, and was the chairman at the dinner. Numerous
intereeting papers were read. About a hundred members
trcre present ; fifty were at the dinner. The death of
Dr. Hoaenbetli vtos m«^ntioned, and a deep regret waa
expressed. The Asaocbtiun is in a healthy conditionj
though it has sustained Bome heavy lossoa by deathii.
Hany new members were admitted, and one lionorary
and corresponding mcmbfT— Mr. William Gomersall, of
Oitarbum, in Craven, The third part of the Traju-
stations was deliyered to the members, and the fourth
was said to be in preparation. It was resolved that a
photograph of Alurith, the *■ Limunus of the Alps/'
should bo taken from the oil painting at 8t, Bcrn4ird,
for the use of the members and the public in general.
One of Dr, Husenbeth^s last acts wa« a transmission to
Bi. Bernard of some ycry interesting letters on geology
and botany that Murith addi'essed i\j him. It Is much to
be regretted that they were not given to the Britii^h
Museum. I can apeak on the yalue of these documents^
as they were sent to me to hand over, and, being open^ I
perused tliem. One was a rery ehiborate aoc[>unt of the
bunting of the Dranse glacier in 1818. Murith visited
every part of the devas^ted scene, and de^ecribed it most
iMCurately (ind ecieutifically to his friend the **young
priest/' as he then called Dr. Huscnbeth. I will
endeavour to bare the above important letters given
to the world. A brief biogmphy of Murith has been
inserted iu '* N. & Q./' rhU General Indtac.
J. n. Di3tON, LL.D.
The Drtklofmekt of the Phes?, 1S24-1871— Will
, jou permit mo to add to the list of papers pubtiahed it*
«N. & g.;' 6'^ 8. ii. 118, the folio wtn^^ f They are not
printed in the Pott-OjHce JJinctory for the year 1S21»
hence the omieion. 'The papers now given are still
fiourishingt and were in existence, or established^ in the
year mentioned i—
North Devon Journal. Bolton Chronicle.
Hampshire Advertiser. Belfast Northern Whig.
Fermanagh Mnil. Eoscommon Gazette,
Wat«rford JttaiL Wexford Independent
JOHir FftAKClS.
BOOKS AKD ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PCRGHASE.
FftrtiCTilaiit of Prtov. *«,» of everj- book to Lt Mnt dii««t to
th« iNcrvon by whom ik is rmulred, wboie n«ine tud addteM arc
glreti for tluii i^iirpow i—
GriLiiM's lixflLAttiiiT, Edit. icrs. An Unftttteot co^t, ponUiniut
th« PurtrftiM of Lord BeaaarM of Worl4t>f«» and Sir WUU&m de U
Mon.
Boeaai, Th!oka». The Catholic ]>ocirla« of tfao Ciiiu«b of Satlaad.
(FarlDN-aoo.) *^
iS In
4to.
TsB I^iTtaufT Ci.tAaxD. «r & Vindioattoo of Caplsin Jeba Smith.
Wanted bj Bdvara P«iwci, Boticsford Maaar« Briff .
PA«ai«io}t*B PandlJtu TffRwtrii, or Uarden of PUuoat WUwtn.
I^ondoo, ISSi-M,
LtsDL»Tli Gocra aad %Hiii« of Ocehidac>coiu Plann.
Wanted by P. W. BmrUdgt^ r, Boutbamptvo HtvtU St»ad. WX\
4
fioti€t!i to CorrfipanHfttU.
Oira CowuMPOMBWiTB vm'li, T/v tnt^i, ernwe our
gaiinff to thtm, hoik for their saJta as wdl ai owr otea-^
Thai ihty tkouJd writt tU^ir'u aii' diiliuctti/-^xtid
one aide of the paper only — - naiaeff
and words and phrases o/ ^av It
ritjuind, Wt cannot uacferux^c (» f">-.if dim; wvi^t ot Cw-
t^potideni dott not think ^forlh the tftfubU of «rri(if^
pLtmly,
Mb. Chr. Cookr writes: — "The useful 1
papers, 3824, published in "N. & Q*," No.
12U, rcmindfl me that an accurate and earcfi^
lag^ued iiult-x of all newspapers is required m Um^
Museum Library, showintf distinctly wlmt n<«iir
are now therein^ Thv* catalogues now i
to new:q»apers, incomplete and \m<]\v
collection of these periudioals is n/ '
CoF. Al.— The father of 8oj
Vigier), the opera-sii^er, to whoix. ...
have sent the Ootden Rose, was n Pr
named Cruwel, of Bielefeld, in I'ru
husband, Baron Vigier, is grandson ot the 31.
who made a fortune by establishitig Uiose fnmoui
the ** Bains Vigier," on the Seine.
Mjllveen : —
** The childhood shows the
As mornini; ihows the day."
Milton, Par. R^., iv,, lines 220-1*
WaTBE-MABKs {5*'' S. i. 88 J ii. 94.)— I thank
Gastoh »e BimnEVAL for his kind reply, and
know the price and publisher's name of
Prineipia Typogi-apkim. Gborqx E. Jm
SouTBWAiix.— You will find that and a seoond eniL,
on.Hobeon, the Cambridge carrier^ in Wit lUitmwa, W,
p. 201, Camden Hotten's reprint.
W, GiiiMAMit.— For the personal v:-'-
deaih, and " prophecies *" or Mother
General Index of our last seriee. Wu g
lines quoted^ see " N. & Q.," 4^' 8. x, 450 , xL ;l;w.
pRDfCK. — Copies of the work are to be found at the
dealers in old books; any publisher of clasdcat workt
would answer the query fully.
J. H. H. — It pofers to the old custom at this time •(
the year of making a pilgrimage to the grotto of ^
James of Com|>oatella.
P. S.— Laviuia Fenton, Duoheti of Bolton, the utigiaal
'* Polly Penchem/' lies in Greenwich Churchyanl,
B, on T.— To **drinL' tobacco *' was the earlicfi foria
of expressing the act of smoking.
A. 11.— The List is of |iapers existing in 1524, not of
papers which began to exiit in that year.
F. J. V.—" Mars his sword," see p. 2, and *• Had hr."
p. 34, of present volume.
HKRMESfTR CUR— Letter forwarded.
E, H,— Picton was killed at WaterloOi June IS, 1$LL
W. T.-^Unavoidably deferred till next Wfek,
Editorial Communications should be addressed to ** The
Editor " — Advertisements and Business Letter? to «* The
Publisher "—at the Office, 20, Wellington Street, J^trand,
Ixindon, W.C.
We heg leave to itate that we dedine to netuni c»ib.
munications which, far tiny reason, we do not print ; ioA
to this rule wo c: J exception, ~
To all comma 1 iild be aflix^ the i
address of the s«l^ jcessarily for puhlioa^O&i t
aa a guarantee of good faith.
M^IMMi
NOTES AND QUERIES.
141
aAtmtpAT, A UGusT 2s, i3r4.
INTENTS. — N* 34,
tttca br Mn. OUvIa Serrai : '*The Book.**
mii. S7ov IV., 143—1110 Tttto of B«voir0iid
tMfoi* lb* Hon/" ix*_-ivr,Lii..i rv.. ......_
of Vtotntba—A '
llffiiffcl Victory =^ _.._;. L.,>-i i
I Um CUn Cb&tteQ— blh«ki|MAre, Uinuc«;r,
tham Clninh JSolb^Oennaa BmicnnU In
alutj— An AnwxicAn lEmaj* oi^ £iilc«7« oa
htoyiMt Drmyton— P&lbGT Lotils leComte
tOit-Cft«lto»l WolMr and LvJi_i?i.k..
lor"* ** Pi«<«ali " : Stmiuc'tf '
»d Abbe/« Yorksblra-WUlia
t" — KomeiieliittT" ' v..i , ;, ,^ ,.^^
mnb*— Sir Of r»r : iduacnddeu
UloI Brettoa >1 j—" Seeing
i|* — "Shot" — ' V- ., .4....ay ju Old ju
Savry Day "— Placiflo, the Cnb«ii Po«t —
*P.. 18i»— Puiy FamUy» 140 — "Mort»
kbor WimUd—*' nrimp*, " 150.
feting ** for Cui!&o RaMei, lAO — Charles
i ^ OohUBbiis-'Oitemui, 153 ^ Milton's
1i Priioin, 163— MedAl of WillUto I.—
tknj— A VjiUomhroiUn Nun—'* Llwbee'i
* AuM Wif # ' h«ko " — Whi*ky — Bonnie
Knftve " — *• FaTonr" — '* Dtituolofiy " —
-♦* Sinoiil« '*— HeraldJc — Miuhb— " Ooesicji
Society of AtU' HemoriJil Tabtctft^iUpiy
Ftuotly, 166— "Academic Erron^-^HAytlm
id wwriaK out the acabbard "--SkftUnK
^ftltotisA Wftutoo— •* La ProvinrJAlM *'—
S B«Uvys "DictloiiMy-— •" y--- '-•■■ -■
X, lfi9--BlD9ll«h SoniiiiMis—
id*— Prtvj* Council Judgment
catat In tli« Brlttih Miucuiu- v, u..i .."U
m — Woidivnrth and Boeg^ 167 — FurOe
^d BanudtAitoB — Ityroa: Wyciierky* dx;..
CEN BY MRS. OUVU SERllESr
"THE BOOK/*
mt correspondent, Calcuttknsis,
jinion ("N, & Q;* 3^*^ S. >lL 11)
« list of the publications of Olivia
miuld be a desideritum," Thia
ftliare«l by every one w]io liax paid
Lory of Mi's. HeiTc;?!, or of
I of which she wtm the
tuiii I hAve, during the lost few
no oppnrtnnitj of securiii^ copies
Is for exposing
ions m I have
:l with,
*ecent ttajuiiiitions of ihiw character
e that he h:id i*rinterl it in thf.
It Will occupy m your ,
'*vusicd. It is writteii ou
both .-ides of u half-sheet of quarto letter-paper,
und is iis foUtJWS : —
** Work* rrntkh " '' T .:««# OUvt bt/are $h^
rtii,
L FUjrhts of Ful.,, .. . iuine of Poems, including
Til? Ciistle of Avola ^nn Opera).
ir. St. .rnltHii. 180*1
III. TTii " " " ^% 2 volumes.
IV. A igb, ISIO,
V. Oil ^0 her Danfbter.
\1. E^kj OH tU Tpiuity, IblS,
"TnE Book."
Vn. An Eftsaj in Favour of the Duke of York.
VI IL The Lifeof Juuiiu.
IX- The Memoirs of the lute Earl of Warwick.
X* Mary Ann Lnia.
*' M¥2%€h wid by Mr, KtUy ol hit Saio<m, Pail MaU,
1. 0«d 6&r9 ilio Prince*
2. The Beggar Boy.
3. Behold in all the pomp of Day.
4. Wcrter'e (!) Lost Sen, dcdiCfttcd to the Duke of
Cambddge.
5. Loved Niglit.
*i. Sweet Lore, tho Moon appe*n.
7. Adieu, Adieu, ye hnuutA^ Adlea.
And othera.
" yew rmdjf (& pMith toAtii rtmnd*
Three volume i of a Hiitory of England, in ferpo (■ full
History).
Three Tolumei of Memoirs of Olive, Prinoeiis of Cum-
bertond.
Three volumes of ReUpous and 31aral Poemi,
Two volumes of Mranoars of tbo Bake of Keot
A Book of Pnlmt for every d»y in the week.
A volume of Corroepondc&ce Dctween the lfti9 and pre*
sent Ministers as to our Birthright.
A volume of State Recollections.''
In transcribing the title of the paper Mr. Cble-
man made iin omission, of some importance, of the
words *' before she knew her birth." Kow, though
the list is not d.ited, it could not have been written
before 1821, the yecir in which Mrs. Scrrea aasume<I
the title of Princess Olive,— a fact of which she
beciime aware, avconling to her statement, in May^
1815^ — yet tliJHliKt not only contains a book which
she dtttea in 181w (I think erroneously), but one —
the iVfc77M>ir5 of Lord ly'arunck — which was not
published till 181 J) ! Like almost everything
written by her^ the fict« which the paper in
intended to establish contradict each other.
As the works of this extraordinary womiin are
hy no means common, I venture to add dome brief
notea on such of tliem as I have hud an opportunity
>/ Fanev h a handsomely printed
Mni. J. T. Serre«." I
..-.. -;,.-, ,.jU><e the Vntji'tv nf Jimii.'H
by the Lady on her sact- i
lihy. Tlie vubimti Is ' i^e
142
NOTES AND QUERIEa
(6*8. It Atc, 22, Tl-^
foyal descent. The dedication is oeuclied in very
t iiiimble and fulsome terras, which contract strongly
I with the BUit<?ment made by her in 1822, " that
I Bhe was a lady, intimate from infancy with the late
■ Earl of Warwick." See her account in the Gentk-
n*tMagasin€ for July, 1822, of his apparition
appeaiiDg to her, her daughter (Mrs. R}^es)^ and
the Kev, Mr. Grove.
2. SL Julian, a Series of Letters by Mre, J. T.
Serres, was al&o published by Ridgway in the same
year, 1805,
3. Memoirs of a FrincsUf or Firiii Lo^: an
HiBtorical Romruice. In 2 vols. By Olivia W.
S , Author of The Booh (Maynard, 1812.)
The heroine of this stor^^ h the unfortunate Caro-
line, Princess of Wales, afterwards Queen Caroline ;
and the story it&elf is a fine specimen of the pure
Minerva Press style, as the following extract will
show. Speaking of England, a Princess writes as
follows : —
" How bleflsed i« thftt land of Uberty and repoee where
no tanffVrinury tide* o/h'fe*t sacred piialiiy deioiaU iis
plaint,"
On the title-page the writer describes herself as
with that affectation of
i tiUe-pag
W, §^
"OUvia
mystezy which is so charactenstic of her ; while
the Preface is signed "0, W. Serres" in her own
himd writing*
4 I have not been able to see a copy of the
Ldter to Lord Va^threngh, published in 1810.
5. OHvia-s Ldter of Adrice to Her Baughter^
written by Mrs. Wilmot Serrei^ Landscape Painter
to His Eoipnl Highness tli£ Prinr.^ of WalUy Author
of " FUghU of Fancy;' ''SL Julian^' &c., published
by Ebers in 180a It is addressed, not to her
daughters, but only to Lavinia, the late Mrs.
Ryres,— Mrs. Serres ignoring iit this early period
the existence of her younger daughter Britannia
(Mrs, Brock) m persistently as Mrs. Rjrves after-
wards did in her Appeal to Rmjalty and her pro-
ceeding in the Courts of Law.' Mrs. Brock was
living in 1866, nor have I seen any notice of her
death.
6. Esmy on the Trtiiitit^ I have never seen
this volume, which, although dated by Mrs. Serres
1818, is probably identical with that described in
the Omtkma7i*s Magazine (July, 1835, p. 93), iia
having been published in 1814, under the title of
" ♦S'i, A ihantisi'us'ii Crixd M^hxnidfor the A dvantage
of Youth, By Olivia Wilmot Serres, Niece of
I)r. Wilmot^' The writer of the notice in the
Genikinan's Magazine adds : " It will be observed
she had already begun to traffic in assumed names,
for that of Wilmot was not given her in baptism."
7. Of the Essay in Faiwir of the Ihike of York
I am unable to say anything, not having as yet
been able to meet with a copy.
8. which by a pardonable mis- reading of Mrs,
Serres's ill- written list, Mr, Coleman printed as The
I^/e o/ SSnurs^ is, no doubt, The Life of the
Author of the Ltttern ofJuniuif^ the Rev. Jan
Wilmot, D,D., &c., hy ki4 NiiOA, Olima W%
Serres, published by Williams in 1813, — a
fatal to the claims which the aatboresa cah
quently put forward, oontaining, as it does,
menta which directly contradict the story of her
royal birth, and place her case in this dilemma^ ; if
her first statement is true, her second is f "
her first statement is false, her second is an
of credit, Mrs. Serres makes no mention i
second book on Junius, Junius Sir Ph
FranciM daiied^ 8vo., 1817, — a work of equal irf^
portance in demolishing her pretensions.
I have in my possession a copy of the Lift of
Wilmot^ with Mrs, Serres's corrections, nufcde for s
new edition.
9. The poper title of this volume is LtUert of
the. late Might Hon. Earl of Brooke and Warwiek
to Mr$. Wilmot Serres^ HlustraUd with (he Pormt
and Memoirs of His Lordship, &c., Svo* {Birktit
& ScottX 1819, Taken for what it professeil
this book is, probably, as dull and twada ^
volume as any man could be condemned to^
through ; but looked at with reference to
history of Mrs. Serres, and the exti5
events with which her name will ever be i
it contains many points of great interest i
portance, as I may, at some more oonvenie
opportimity, endeavour to demonstrate.
"^VArwick is B/iid to have told Mrs. Sen
secret of her birth in 1815, yet here is hS
published in 1811*, inserted in a list of those whid
she describes i\s having been written befa
hneiv her birth ! In 1816 there ap|)eared _
work coined in the same mint, ot forged in tk
stithy, professing to be (as it is entitled) Narmtii
of the peculiar Case of the Earl from Hi4 '^
ship's oiim Manuscript This was alto publii
by WOlianis.
10. The "Mary Ann Letts'* of the list, si
printecl in the GmtUfnaWs Magminey is " Mmrii
Anme LaiSy the C&urte2an; or^ Certain lUust
tio7i^. A Rotiumce. By the Author of Tbk B00K.J
Small 8vo. Rodwell, 1812. But tbrr ' ' "
page the writer modestly describe-
the author of The Booh, yet the satiii .
" to two moat injured illustrious characti
subscribed, like the Prefrtce to the Mtvwir
Princess, with the autograph of O, W.
As the reader will probably anticipate
date, &c., the parties so distinguished are ih
of York and Mrs. Mary Anne Clark, wh
actions, and feelings Mr«. Serres probably
took to describe on the principle that
'* 8he best can paint them who shaU feel ihtim
Those who remember the character «!
Mrs. Serres^s lat^r productions will be :
reading the following esttrwrt from this litti^
trumpery book :—
S>a.II.A«i<i.9s;74.]
fD QUE]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
143
* lUeetpl to 1/uiJU a t»#ry 9iituahU P^ubikaiian,
'* Takt of iRVfutton, the utmost degree of fabtkood.
«iid Hw QXtnttiQ of calumny^ well blend tkese two
dmifMt ootnpouDcU ia the oil of audBciouioe^,"—
And so on for a whole page.
With Mrs. Serrea's muaical oampositiona I do
not propose to trouble myself. Keither hove I
^Jljrtning to saj with respect to those works
libed \>j her lus ** ready to publish when
Probably among a lorge collection of
in her handwriting which I possess, there
[An Bomt! frogmenta of her SiaU RecoUsctionSt
\€&rrt*poti4en€4 wiih MtnUtcrs, Memoir of the
*Jhike of Kent, which, I fear^ will scarcely repay one
for the tronbJe of deciphering. If on examinntion
'' 1 Mhould find any thing worthy of notice, it shaU be
^rea to the world.
And now I come to one entry on the list which
I have advisedly deferred noticing. I alhide to
the remarkable unnumbered article, between Nos. 6
nod 7, which the authoress has marked with in-
Terted commas, and doubly underlined — **The
Book/* But ** Thjb Bck:>k " must form the subject
of another paper.
In the mean time, can any correspondent refer
me, either through " N. & Q.'* or directly to roy-
teU^ to any copy of " Tbe Book " by Mr*. Serrea,
bearing an earlier date than 1813 ?
William J. Thoms.
40, 81 QeoiKe's Sqo&re, Belgrave Boad, aW.
SPELLING REFORMS.-N0, IT.
Come we now to the pkimls of nouos ending in
o; they are about 1(X>, and may be beat displayed
nnder 3 groups : 1. Musical terms and terms
descriptive of the size of a book. All these are
Italian words, and make their plurals by adding
- -- -'ffy-Sf bastthf^ solo'Sy Jlauto-8 piano-s^ and
V-*; canto-i^ Tondo-s^ &c.; with foUo-s^
J i.. ., tiCtavO'$, duofhcinw-Sj 24m^-«, and so on.
As this group is consistent and without exception,
no (tbii tion can be brought ajroinst it. The other
are about equal, 30 of one make the
[ '», and the 29 of the other add -«.
Ail Douns endij^ in -io, *«>, -vOj and -o, after a
rowel, make the plural by adding -#, with one ex-
' c [)tion, vijs., buffalo-rj. 1 bus we have armadillO'it^
/' '^vf, und p^rrmiilh-s in -lo ; protfUo-s and inr-
>-^, rdi6vo-s^ and tcUvo-* in -vo ;
.<, oqI%o-« or oltVjt, pi«tfuMo'S,
■nitiii^ftf raiio*^, seraglio-*^ studio-Sy
>f>-#, ^c, in 'O preceded by a vowel.
i*> luvy*^ ;ui(i SIX in *f«, uot musical terras or sizes
of b<>okH, rli... cmto-$^ (froth-g^ juntos, wafunto-s^
- '"^ '" -«, and itikttO'i^ with all such proper names,
'0-*. The list complete contains between
' wonls.
I • i ^ ;^'roup consUts of 29 words, which
iu.xUr ihf: ^.lural in -«. and I have no hesitation in
K^g that the i should be expunged. In the irst
place^ we never add -a except to make an extra
syllable, as ehurck-ei, foz-a, sath-^y and so on.^
In the next place, not one of the words haye any
etymological claim to a plural in -es.
Let us take them in terminationol order. 1.
'cho and -co, as e^ko, c(UicOf fruto^ •magniJicOf
portico, and stucco (all having their plural in -«)•
Echo is Greek, in which language^it has no plural ;
in Latin, it is the fourth declension, echo^ ecMiip
and, of courae, could have no such plural aa sdU>«t;
in French, the plural is icho», "Now, in the
name of all the gods at once," Ignorance excepted^
what right bos this word to the suffix -es t ** F^aco,
mogDifico, portico, and stucco/' are Itallim, like the
musical teniis and the sizes of books ; and there
is no reason but caprice why they should deviate
from those words. " Calico " is probablv a cor-
ruption of Calicut, and ought also to be deprived
of the €.
2. In -dO| as &rat?aio, innuer^^ rotunda^
iomado^ and iorptdo. Of these, "rotundo" is
Italian, often wntten rotwtwfci in Eoglish ; and,
to show our spirit of contradiction, the foreign
words broivaia and imtuida we make " bravado "
and " tornado " ; " innuendo *' and ^* torpedo " ar«
concocted from the Latin verbs innuo and £orp^,
so that none of these 5 words has a right to a
plural in «««.
3. The words in -go are ca/rgo, flamingo^ indigo^
mu7igOf so^ro, and virago. Of these, "cam,
flamingo, indigo," are Italian. ** Mango " is Uie
Indian -Talmu£c word truingo$; "sago,'' the
Malay word »aau, in Ftench soj^ou ; and " virago"
is Latin, the plural being viragincs. So tlrnt none
of these six words has a plural resembling its
modem English fonn.
4. In -nOj the only examples are no-es (peraons
voting " no % albino-es^ doinino-cs, and vokano^M.
Of these, ".ilbino^* ia spelt both ways in the
plural, (dbinoa and albinoes; "domino" and
** volcano " are Italian ; and as for the plural
of ** no," if iio» will not do, write fM>*^, as we
write I*s, ra's, and so on.
5. In -ro there are 4 words : they are Wo,
negrOf tifro^ and ztto. **Hero," like '* echo," is
common to Greek, Latin, and French, in all
which languages the singular is htro&. Probably
we borrowed the word from the French, where the
s is silent ; but there is not a tittle of authority
for h€ro€s. As for '* negro" and **zero/* they are
Italian ; and ** tyro," the Latin word, baa iyrotiu
for its plural.
We have now gone through every word ending
in -0 except 6, and can find no reason why the
30 which miike their plural in u should not join
the 60 or TO which make their plural in -«. By
enforcing this uniformity, an enormous difficulty
of spelling would be removed, nothing would be
* Those ia >/ tnd -ft changed into -vet at« obiected to
aBabaoimaL
.NOTES AND QUERIES.
{S»»8,ILAf70.22,7t
loM, and every word would be consistent with its
original form.
The six remaining words are tBo«e ending in -to.
Of the 12 words with this termination, 6 go one
way, and 6 another, W© have already noticed
the words ccnto-fi^ ffrotto-s, jimto-i, TnemtntO'Sj
p%7nmi(y'S, and diUito-g; the remaining six are
jTototo^, tomato-a. Three of thea^* are Spanish ;
•'toosquito, mulatto, tomato''; two are Italian,
** motto" and "manifesto"; and the sixth In a
comiption of the American Indian wonl haiatm.
In every case, the saffix -«9 is an abomination. In
even' case, therefore, it w a violation of correct
spelUng, an " anomaly in English orthography,
where -et is limited to words cntling in -^, -jshf -ch
hoTilj and -x (with the single word topa>€S in r) ;
it introdnces great confusion and difficulty ; has
not one single excuse, and ought to be abolished.
To use the words of Lord Lytton, it may be truly
said " such a system of spelling was never concocted
but by the Father of FaJseho^" ; and we may ask
with him, *^ How can a system of education flourish
that begins by [such] monstrous falaelioods ? ^*
E. CoDHAM Brewer,
Lavaaij Chiohnter.
(To be e(mdudtd in our nezt.}
THE TITLE OP REVEBENB.
The following is ^m the Tiftits of the 13th
instant:—
" Sir,— Probablj somo of youraiitiqaarian re»d«ra will
be able to mform you when the title * Beverend ' began
to be ii£ed by the clergy ia gen^^ral; but tbc regisien of
th« parish of T&m worth contida some interesting parti-
coUrv as to local usage. These roisters date buck from
the reign of Philip and Mary. IU6. The first title given
in them to a elergymui it tae old title 'Sir/ with which
8hak»peare has made uji familiar. In May, 1567f we
have an entry *Sir Peter Strtngar, curate,' The
clersy^an who suceeedcd him is called *8ir Rieh&rd
Walfcer/ but there are other contemporaneous entries,
•nch aa 'ncerdoV 'olericue/ 'preacher/ and 'verb!
minlfter/ Theae latter leem to have obtained till, in
Kiag Jamee*e reign, we have the prefix ^Diastcr/ whicb,
aa we know, waa applied to the great dirine, Master
Hooker ; and thU practice Beema by our roisters to have
been continued through the Commonweal^, though
'Miniater of the Qoflpell' ii lometimei added. We
baTe, however, in 1667, the firat nae of the word 'Rev-
erend,* evidently in thia caae as a iipeoial mark of re-
tpeet^ not as a formal title. On '11 June, ]657| was
buried our Beverend Pastor Maater Thoma* Blake, min-
liter of Tarn worth/ In 1603 we have a clergyman by
name Samuel CoUina. I had noticed with eoriotitv an
eraaure before hie name in each of the caaualtiea, bap-
^nnal or funereal, recorded in our regiater* At last, m
l7Ql. I waa luckv enough to find an unerased ent^; and
it appean that the obnoxious word was the title
'Bevd.* (flo written) prefixed to hia Mr, However, he
!Sit not to have been able to hold to hii title. One of
I fihildren» baptifed in 1706, is baptiied at ibo child of
?lain Samuel CoUim, miuiiter; and when he died, in
706, he was boned witliout the title * Reverend '—as
Mr. (ue,, l^hsXtT) Samuel Collins, minister of Tamworth-
Henceforward the tame addreas fs TtFed trll Kovcsnber,
1727, when we have the haptisu'
*ye Bev. Mr. Kobcrt Wilson, -
and after that date the prefix * Iv .viv..^ never i
io have been omitted. I am thanktul, for the hei
my parish, to say that it was not withheld evei
case which reminds one of the matter ditcoaeedj
Camborne Conference. It fell to the lot of \
predecosaors to bury a Nonconformist The ^
the burial is as follows. 1786-37:—* 10 starch, 1
Kev. Thomas Worthington, a Nonjuror of ^
In this he only followed tht: example of an earlier^. _
who, when 'Thomaa FlaveU, Presbyterian teacbo i
Tamworth,' died, allowed him the prdix of Mr» (Uaile
—a prefix used with great partimonv in those days.
"BaooKs LAjcBsat.
•* Tam worth/'
\^. P., writing to the IVsisi on the 14th iniL,
iliat the term *' Nonjuror," as applied abvre, did
not neoesaarily imply a ^Nonconformist. He coi^cctai^i
that Mr. Worthington was one of the surnvon of the
Carolinean and Jacobean clergy (the date of hie deaHi
being 1736-7, and no age given) who had dedincd te
take the oatbt of allegiaiwe and suprcmaey to Che
Hanoverian dvnastv.
Mr. Mafikell, uuthor of Berkymgchtfrch^ Jwrfa TVwtwl '
on the 15th writes, that the earhett iii^' ' % ;.v
man being entitled "Beverend" in
Barking Register ii ihe following nc lv
"1732, December 17.— The Rev. Dr, Jolm i^tmt\h.
Vicar'*; that previous to this date the cle^lcy ar« ^Uri^
iiated "Mr ClericuB,'' ** Mn JJoctor,** and, during the
Puritan period, ** Minister/*
J. R., of the same date, would correct ant infi
that might be drawn from Mr* Lamber* h
titles "Sir*' and "Master" were cki
wafl not tbc case. The former was tbc
the name of a U.A.. the latter to that o'
is notliing more than a translation of '' i
still ^ven by ihe Uuiverstties to a H, A., us qult be «c«o
by a (reference to the Tripos Ltsta in the CamJbriigt
CaUndur, where each column ia headed by the abh(»>
Tiated form ** !>«.'*
g. 0. O. (the Rev. Lord B. Q. Oabome) baa aliiM
written to the Timet a letter, in which he atiilee tittt t^
pretx "Bev." is a more conventional courle^, 1%t
courtesy seemi to have been originally applied ta,
sisstics of the higher rank; but when thcMe
degree came to be coorteoualy addreaaed as ** R(
then the higher dignitaries were rec
** Right Reverend " or " Very Reverend
who have addreeaed " N. k QJ' on tb
consult the General Indexes. They^ will bo led tl
to much valuable information on tliif matter.]
m
"Beat the dog bbforti the lion.'— TKLb pro-
verb occurs in George HerherVs Jticula PruderA^
but is not very explicit. Howe^-er, brfon Ib
this place means ^"t '*
i^iven b}"" Gotgrave
^*Batre/* where ht .... .^
chim dtvaiit le lityft, to punish
thepresence, and to the terror <
The merit of underBtandiii
it will explain a passage in t_ ! ' i
in Shak3i)eare, viA, the following ; —
" And for to maken other be war by mCj
As by the whelp chastised is the )e>oun.''
Chaucer^ S^, Tal^, PL 1.
a meanc
person !
m^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
145
»
A \muhhmQnt more tn policy titan in mallco -, erea
f one wfiiitd beat hia oflfenc^tlesi dog to frJglu ui im-
UQn:*—Olhdto, Vu 3, 27/i,
If anj cf)iT€3j>ondent cnn iell me if the proverb
k found in Latin or Greek, I shjUJ be obliged.
Walter W, Skkat*
1^ Cintn T«moc^ Ounbridfis.
Pamallkl Pass ages.— Compare the well-known
P sUma in Gmfs Mkgy —
' Full many iv geai of purest m; serene
The dark unfathom'd c&vet of oc«ui bear :
FoU nuioy a dower if bom to Ultuh uuHen,
And wute it< fwectness on tl^e desert tir/'
with the following from the poems of Ossian —
i ** Whw did not I pass away ia lecrot, like ifae flower of
' tkm foek tiiat UIW its fair head imseoQ, and atrewB Ita
wilted UaTet on the blast I '*—Fiiit/uL
'H. T. Blyth.
Bamfltnple.
" T'^ ^. -1 } knows nothbg of its greatest mm."
'i bill] expression of Sir Henry Taylor,
in 1 ! - ^ *'rd4c (Pi. I. act I sv, 6), in
not (lat we find in the follow-
ing i ~ ,.^ -. I ---^, L.^ {Les CaracUre$, c. iL): —
"'Ooinblcm d*hoflnfnei admirables, et qui avaiont de
im hmwL^ giniet, soot mortt sans qu'on en alt parl^ !
Opobten viTont encore dcmt on na parle point, et dont
fio ii« parlcm jamais ! '*
C. T. Ramage.
I may nho add, as a pamllel in the turn of
;ht (&*** S- ii. 25), whAt Charles Lamb says in
y on •* The Genteel Style in Writing" ;—
"XoUiing can be more unliice thmi the inflated finical
rlliqMiMliei of Shaftesbury and the plaia natural chit-chat
of Tie»|>lc .... The peer seems to h&re writteo with
his coronet on, and bis Karl's mantle before him ; the
MDUnoner, in his elbow chair and androsa.*'
X W. W.
In tho IkipHomphiskB of Athemens some iatx-
tloas deMmptioiifl are auoted from the old Come-
iSatiB 4d the Satnmia Rc^gna, when^ &a there were
m msnmatMf whatever was wanted presented it«elf
iPOBtaiieooBly> The following extract is from the
omMi cj/ Nicophon, a comparatively modern
Indtatof ii the ancients : —
N4<^Tu» /AC I' dkcftirmSy
i^aJca{cTO) 5* aproitTiVf vtrui S* ervet*
|«s^io^ Sia Twv oSC*v KvXnMrtii Kpia'
AtJ^n. ItHpn., Lib» VI, o. Wl.
" Ningat polentis,
rorMcal panibQi, pluat<|ue pidto,
jvaeuhnn per Ttsa volvat earnes,
plac«ata ipsa coin«di se jubeat. "
Tmnilated by Sehwelghaeuaer.
Ill Stttki{ie«re*8 Merry Wix:a of Wimhor^
Am ▼. ic. 6v we have FaUtaff's reply to Mrs*. Ford :
* W lh« ikj rain potatoes; let it thunder to the tune
if Qw« Sfoev^f ; hail kisainf^-comfita, and Btiow cnn-
p^l Itt tberv be a tcmpcit of proTocatioa.**
■Ibt property heti^ supposed of the
see Mr. Collinses note on a jjassage in Trtnlus nnd
CreMiilaf Act v, so, 2, wtich, on account of ita
len^h, is given nt the end of the play in Johnson
and Stoevens's edition. G. S. J.
Bnth.
Ebthing Bundle of Pro^terbs.— I hm% at
least three other Bongs that are entitled " A Bundle
of Proverbs'' (see b^ S. i. 205), all of them be-
longing to the eighteenth century. Here is one an
a epeciraen : —
Ilc.bakuk's my name, it *e well known to toy friends.
That my dittlee are made up of (jueer odds and ends;
I can*t in fine cadence your heanmrs asadl,
Nor wind up each close like a rattlesnake*! talL
Plain, frank and free^
My song shall be ;
In vain for fine versee mj brain I would thresh,
For ' What's bred in the bone won't come out of the
€esh.*
For • What's bred in/ *c.
Our foes on the ocean sent plenty of ships^
But ' It 's not the best carpenter makes the most chips ' ;
They promts'd to give Britain's sailors a beating.
Though ' The proof of the pudding they found in the
eatiog.*
The Sans Calottes
!n rafts and boats^
They wouldn't be qaiet, though bsk'd to 1>e ciril,
' Set a beggar on honeback he 'U ride to the devil/
Our island is small, vet it plainly appears
That * Fishes [qu. P'ttchenl though little, have eUn
mat ears.*
The FreTK;h have five kingSj but their threats are but
froth.
For ' Too many cooks do but rain good broth.*
Their eorVcigns five,
And all their hive
Are welcome Britannia to catch when they get her.
For * Tho' Brag*B a good Dog, yet Holdfast is a better.
For their threats of invasion we ne'er cared a ruth,
' A bird in the hand is vorth two in the bush/
They may think open-mouth'd to devour ua like sharks.
Bat, * Tin tho sky falla wc must wait to catch larks.'
3Iy friends, if wc
Do but agresj
Old EngUud her bitterett foes may defy.
To attempt to say, * Black b the white of her eye.***
J. W. K
Moluahj by Ashfordi Kent.
A Tradition of the Pass of Kii-lijbcrankik,
^Travellers proceeding to the upper part of the
Fms of Killiecrankie by the lower road, will
observe on their right a deep laviDe (kaowa by the
name of the "Troopera* Den'^), Cfomei^ hy the
viaduct of the llighland Railway.
Tho erection of this mass of mason^ Iub. in
i5ome measure, filled up the lower part of the den,
through which a stream (in winter a torrent)
rushes to join the Garry.
Previous to the formation of the railway^
numerous fniirnifTits of ruftty iron, the remaina of
bits^ spurs, j ,^ occ«A\0TM3iX^ ts«A^ ^?h«a
146
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5»*a.ILA«<3*22,'7C
diBCOvery of such relics is accounted for by a
tradition current in the glen, vi?.,, that before
MAck»y met Lord Dundee on the field of Killie'
crankie, he ported a regiment of cavuliy on the
upper bank of the hollow.
After the defeat and subsequent retreat, oyer
the hill of Tuhtch, of King Williain^s ^eneJ:al, the
Tictarioua clansmen came down in force on the
troopers, who^ with their horsea, perished in the
nmne.
Their bodies were buried, or covered over with
earth, on the sloping banks of the brook, but so
uupeiiciaUy that their decay produced very un-
pleasant results, to obviate which a Highland
farmer dammed up the wat^r of the rivulet in
aevenU places above this Aceldama, and when
aufficiently pent up the torrent was let loose, and
in its descent swept the graves and their contents
into the Garry. The site of the excavation from
which the earth was taken to cover the bodies is
still pointed out, and a friend of mine had for
aomo years the frame of a troop-saddle found in
the ravine. D, A,
Wjixkeb's " Pronouncino DicTioyARY."— This
leiricographer seems to me scarcely to deserve the
repute in which he ha* been held, except as a
witness of the pronunciations current in his day.
When he attempts to argue he often becomes
absurd. J^-j?., he contends that rahin should be
sounded as rcmon^ because of a bad pun in Shnk-
speare ; and he seems to approve of sometimes
pronouncing rather m raijihcr. The sound given
by him to either and neither diifeia from that now
most usually adopted. His grammar is often very
faulty. S. T, P.
Lord Howk*s Great Naval Victory. — The
following note by a correspondent of The Naiy^
regarding Lord HoweV famous victory over the
French fleet, on June Ist, 1794, is, I think, suffi-
ciently int-erestiDg to merit a place in " N. & QJ*i—
*' After the battle of June Ist. Lord Howe, delighted
ftt hill BHccesBp offered a prise to tliat sailor who ahould
write the beet verses in celcbmtion of the event. Many
leeg^tny and more or leaa elaborate compositions were
iont in in competition ; but that for which the prize was
awarded wai the production of a young midshipman ^
whow lines ran m foJIowa:—
' If Prance can e'er be tuught to fight.
It Rurely must be now ;
The First of June hath set her right,
And ihe'II remember hefvie).'"
• w. A. a
QlMgow.
London compared with Antioch» — I have a
amnll engraving, 8vo, sijBe, signed ** Hollar, fee." The
ftubject^ two male figures in the foreground, look-
ing down upon a walled city, inscribed *'Antiochia,"
which occupies the middle and bnckgronnd of the
pUte ; underoeMh are the foDowiog lines : —
ThB
** B«hold tbifl ancient Citty from wheQC« otme
Ab from y* BAcrcd Font the Ohmtianj} n^me :
Heauen grantc y* owr once famous Lottduu tuajr
What Antioch gaue, In time not take away,
" Jobn Stafford, Excu: 1657^ Jo. Oo!''
W. H* PATTERSOy.
Motto of rmt Clan Chattait* — ^The Times,
describing the costumes at the ball at Marlborong'
HouB€, iiayii :—
''Lady Florence Gower, air the Wtiite Cat« yn$
oourse all in white satin and soft white fur, and on a rt
cat's collar round her neck was written the ClanClialti
tnotto^ * Toueh not ike cat bot tntK iKi Ohve.* "
Sir Walter Scott says :—
" The County of Caithness is supposed to haye ita n
from the Teutonic settlers of the race of the Cottit i
heraldry has not neglected so fair an occasion for that
specieB of painted punmng in which she used to delight
Ttiuek not tk* eat but a glortt in the motto of Mackintoih^
alluding to his crest, whtch^ as with most of the now
scattered septa of the old Clan Chattan, is the Mountain
Cat."*— Tfte Fair Maid of FertK, note to chap, xxriL j
Shakspkauk, CHATJcm^ Fastolf.^ — 1, On the
Coram Eege Eoll, St. Barthw,, 45 Henry 17"
Merak 13, Office No. of Roll 117, is a snit
Bome land at Pruslbury, Gloucesterahire.
verdict of the jury ia all that need be given ; they
say —
" The hamlet of P., where there were four tenants,
was at a certain time an escheat of the king, who gare
it to his valet 8imon Sh&kespeye, who afterwards gave it
io Consiantia de Legh, who gave it to W*" dc Solar,
the Dft,"
It is useless to give more, the above showing
thjit Simon- 8 descendants, if he had any, could not
be traced through this property.
2, In a workj published in 1&47, by M. Julw
Delpit, called CoUedion Oinirah d4s Docum^
Francis qui se trfmveni en Angleterrf^ p* 43» ifl »
writ of Edward II, to the ConstAble of the Tovrr,
to inquire who, in the City of London, mole i^ i
the Gascons resident there, and the ret 1 1
said writ. Amongst those who thus *
Robert h Chaucer. It is on account of Lui: uju^ir
prefixed to the name that I mention this.
3, On the Vascon Roll, 1 Henry V., M, % is i
^ant made, 4th February, to John Faatolf, Amni^er.
of the ewatleand lordahipofVeir^, worth a hundn '
marks yearly, the grantee to siwtain the castle, hi
not to account.
Vayres is a commune in the canton and arroi
dissement of libonrne, department of the Girow*
where, in n large chateau, built at various tinieSi
are numeroua remains of the ancient cattle.
It is impossible to speak positively on such
subject, but roy opinion is that this grant
equivalent to what one of %000l, a year
be now. My study of Shakspeare havin|_
limited to tlus work, I am ignorant wheth(
above has or has not been noticed by any of
I
I
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
147
comments tort*^ but tho fontradiction it
the well-kTiowTi rehtikc of Henry» after his
tto Falfttaff i» mivnifest. \V. Floyd.
Mqnati oimneipondeiito desiring inform&ilon
7 matters of only privAte interest, to affix their
lid addresses to their queries, id order that the
r ^ Addressed to tbem direct,]
Church Bells. — The fine ohl
laddenhani, in the Isle of Ely (or, as it
1 ancient communion dmllce, ^^Hadnam
I "), and from whose lofty tower were
Ible twenty-eight piirish churches and
iliedraliif is now undergoing h thorough
on, though funds iire atili needed for its
Ion and for the re-erection of the tower*
of »ix belk are of various dates, from 16S7
, and they were cast by at least three
i founders. Two of the bellt*, the fourth
b, bear the impress of coins, in relief, as if
d been phhced in the s^md previous to
in the molten metal. On the fourth is a
>y of George II., and on the fifth two
1, one of George I, and the other of Anne.
r it was customary thus to affix coins to
thin period (1725-41), some une better
b campanology will perhaps explain ; but,
sots, tne fact is worth recording in^* N* <& Q,"
mring inscriptions ap[>ear on the bells : —
^TaOJCAS ^XWXAIt MAPS MKS : 1706."
Be the period. Also on No, 1 —
WOvn : Q.Ytr
No. 2—
us HooELF : C.W.*'
vn : 8cAaBOKot;oB : Mm : I : MoaaUf R. Esad,
IfjjLDEVS : LABOft : Ipse : Voluftas : I : Eatr%
>S : Ftcit 1741/*
I the halfpenny referred to : —
-^ OOLX -f AJrn + lOBN + PORTia
p- T»0 : -f XWWUAH + MAM + ME 4" 1725 +
ShillJng ShiUinic
Hi D.G. Rex. Anna Regiaa,
L GLoar BEB TO God opt Hr«H x Edward
u * Dakiel Goold - WAEDiKa * 1657.
|Bi> fuin ' * iiiie on this bell, but on
Kre r W.G. and W.M., and a
Price, vsiLij, lu Lhe centre, a Latin cro«8,
ipper comers the sun and moon, and the
Co ""'* f^^ each side of the cross. Some
ni be recognized as the foundei-'s
H , , lig the new foundation for the
^BnUiT pit or weU was discovered, just
^ft% four or ^ve feet deep. In it were
Ebi of sand and scraps of hell-metal^ as
i Itad been ased for casting some of the!^
li Mch a theory tenable? Are similar
wu i The question seems to me to
be one of so much interest as to lead me to greater
length than I intended, but I have been uk concise
OS possible under the circumstancea. W. U.
Sarowsbury.
P.S, In the nort.h wall of the cbanoel waa dis-
covered, on clearing away tjxe pLiater, a ** hagio-
scope,'* or squint, in eEcellent preservation.
i After reading the above, many of our readers maj be
_ uced to assist the rector in his eodeavoar to raise
funds for the restoration of this churck]
German Emigrants m the EioiiTiiKNTri
Century. — Under what regulations were German
emigrants permitted to settle in America during
the previous century? In Gentian Pioneerf^ a
Tak of th€, Previous Century, by Friedrich 8pie!-
liftgen, there occutb the following passage, of which
I should like an explanation : —
** From the peak of the voisel waved the Butoh flag,
but the cargo was Oermaa— foar or five hundred emi-
grant* : one scarcely knew exactly, for some time pre '
vioua the weu had been sent on shore to do homigei or
twear allegiance Ihuldigen), at the Senate House to the
King of Engl And."
This was in April, 1768. Jar Aitcb.
An Amebicak Essay, or Euloqy, ok Wombn.
— Some time ago — ^about three years, 1 think — an
octogenarian lady, now no more, lent me an
American newspaper which contained a very
humorous essay, or eulogy (1), on the fair sex. It
had been often delivered at what we call " penny
readings.^ It contained various interruptions and
expostulations from the audience. On a Jiut
delivery, these disapprovals and remonatrancep
must have had n ludicrous effect. On a subHecpicnt
delivery, such outbursts, of course, no longer
deceive, and the tjot-np by-play is seen through^
and loses its effect. I remember a passage some-
what as follows : —
*' ' And now, huliei and gentlemen ! allow me to intro-
duce that paragon of her sex, and of all the virtues,
Lucretia Boreia.*
'* * We won t have her ! don't want to hear anytbiug
about her ! ' cry the audience^
** * Well, then," continues the lecturer> * allow me to
brinjT before you the amiable Mr a. Brovmrigg, whose
wholesome discipline towards her refractory appreotioee
led to her martyrdom, which^ unfortunately, has not
been followed by canon ixat ion ! '
'* * We won't have her either/ cry the audience, * yow
pais on to somebody else 1 now go ahead ! ' **
The essay occupied about four columns of a
large newspaper, for I remember the journal was
one of those mmistcr pa^iera that we only find in
the States, I should like to know if the essay has
appeared in a separate form, and, if so, who is the
publisher, anil how I could obtain a copy ; and I
should also like to have some particubirs as to the
author. The essay was anonymoun in the joumal.
I do not believe that it had even a fiv^ga»l\vx^ «i*^
initiala^or a twmi de pUittu. T«AiK^ ^2B&'to^**
148
NOTES AND QUERIES.
l^an.At?o. 22,74.
Dr. Colly kr could aid my mquiry, and, if so,
send a iiot43 to '' K. & Q."
James Henet Dixok.
CtiaisTOPHER Dratton, — Id a raw little
Tolume, entitled —
' ' Lych nocanift stva Honlui Ficvm Emblem* ta. Li^lt ta
Morail Emblemfl. Anthora Hobtrta FarUto Scoto-Bn*
tauDO. Sir luceat lux vestra <£? cei, London, Pritited b;
T%o, Co(&, for Michael Sparks lunior, md are to be eold
ftt the blue Biblo in Ortifn4 Arbor, 1638/'
are the following lines : —
•* To the Arahor,
Mtroit bright tftinpe, whicb abe on S«itm itnMAd,
Set up to be a marke, by which mleht land
Her ioir'd Leandert when he crost the Sea
Of ffelUtpont ; long aince wa» outi and we
Onely enjoy its fame, the light is gone,
ADd tow'r ia buried in obliirion.
Th' Mfjmitian Pkaro*, which waa fam^d to be
The worlds acjiv 'nth wonder, in obscurity
Lyes niin'd, and that miiltiplicit light,
Once to the Marrinera a Snnne bj night,
la now extinct ; for tie decreed by fate,
What Art doth reare, that Time shall ruinate :
Kay holy Writ aitnref , at the laat daT
The Btarrea shall fall from heaven, tfie snnnc decayj
The Moone be tiimd to bbod^ those which God made
Firat moat resplendent lights, at last ahall fade.
U But thy Lighta most tranaceodent, can no hand
Of Time or Fate (which all thinga else bath ecand,)
Put to these Lights an end, for these thai! be
Blight ehinjng Tspera to Eternity,
** Chntt<fpher Drayton.'
*I dmU be glad to leam if there is anything
Tmown of the writer of the foregoing, and if he
was in any way related lo the ilhmtrious poet^
Michf^el Drayton. S.
Father Louis Le Comte, one of the Jesuits
Tfho left Fmnce in I^Inrch, 1685, to go to Ghin;^,
and the author of the wcll-kno'wn Memoirs and
Obserwxiion* . , . . mad4 in a late Journcij through
the Empire of Chhuty wrote, on p. X of the Edmr*
{dammni dc la TMnoyuiaiion jaiU a N, S, I\ k
Pope .... MDCC, 12mo, pp, 32: —
* H y a quatro ana que je donnay au public lea noureaux
Midiiioirea de la Chine. J'eua Thonneur de lea pr^aenter
au Eoy, aux J-'T^quea, h toute la Prance ; ct oe livro fut
ai bien re<^u, qu'on en a fait sept c'ditiona, et qa'il a etc
tradnit en pluaieura taogues der Europe . . , ."
Will some one be good enough to j(ive me a
description of these aeven editions, and of any
others which may have been since published in the
French language, and of the various trunalations
of l\m work I
A SUBSCBIBEB IN THE FaE EaST.
Bun van's Ihitatobs.— In the Preface to the
Whole Works of Mr, John Bunyatiy in 8 vols. 8vo.,
[published by Alexander Hogg, iibout 1780, 1 read:
'* When thai great man Dr. Simon Patrick attempted
I to write the parable of the Christian pilgrim, ho made
■mmaelf ridiculoua-^vnd when the anonymous scribbler
of the third part of the Pilgrim's Pnigreag tried to
0btrade his stuff on the world as the production of Mr.
Buuyan« the cheat >Tae eoon diaeoTerad; erery Chri^tlaa
of taste could see the diB^ereuce as easily at we can diac^iii
the superior excellence of a Raphael era Tiii&n from the
SToductionsof a common dauber; and we eaiiaa easily
iatinguiah Bunyan from all other writera oa we can
discern the difference between the finest cambrick and a
piece of hop aackmg/"
Where can I learn anytbing furt«ber of ihebe
two works, and what are their precise titles I
J. CiLvRLEs Cox.
Haselwood, Helper.
Cardinal Wolsbt is said by Hasted to haviij
been Vicar of Lydd, lind it is supposed that
built the tower of its church. The stvl© of i
building is evidently that of his time, Thft J
of Lydd belonged to Tintern Abbey (to wh
was given by one of the De CLires). It i
less through this means he obtained it. Any i
formation upon the above would be of venri,
interest. Artbihl Fzmc»
Weetbroke, Lydd,
Episcopal Query. — One John Boner Is
scribed as "Buachudunei epus." in a record date
1440. To what see is reference thus maile ?
Tatlor's **Biaoksi8": Straubs^s "Old Fajtb
Asxt New.'* — Have any specific replies been written
to the aboye ; if so, by whom, and where pnh-
lished? T. k
Liverpool.
Btlakd Abbey, Yorebhire. — I want the
mimes of any works containing accounts of thl^
Abbey and neighbourhood. Where can I ol i.i
the best information respecting the names of tU.
ancient inhabitants of the locality l J. A
William McGtreoor Logatt.— Cm
favour me with a few biographical pur
the author of the English tmnslation <*i
ot Der Freisekuhj first performed on tl
stage in 1824 I He is author also of '
Fro7nue^ an opera, performed at the <
June, 1833, and 'The Comdj an opcFji,
Mr. Logan a native of Scotland, and in h
living I R» iNGLla.
" MlNIOK.'* —
'* They hare erer abhorred, and cannot away v* i
thia day, a multitude of idols and ceremomcf. v ;
that levity of ifitHtcJt^i repreeentationa and Mii^omttV! n
iVc— William Freake, 7%e Dodrina and Prtu^ticct :/ :
Socidii ofJetuita (1630), pp. 9, 10.
Is miymk, " frivolous," shortened from wm
or is the latter based on the former ? If -m
came first, and horn the Old High Gennim mu;>'\
whence was its termination derived I F. ii
Marlesford.
NoBrEsci.ATTJRK OF Vericlks. — Suwly araoflg
the contributors to ** S, & Q." there must be soiue
ff» & 11. Aeo. 22, Ti.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
149
|»«f9ona learned in Long Acre lore, and to them I
appeid fnt tnfonuAtioii regarding the why and
fmcreibro of the mim&?, and th« dates of Intro-
doelion, uf the following vehicles, rh.^ landau,
Iitft«ln, harouchc, tdbary, don net (?), stanhope,
dIuu:! 1 phiieton, sociable (or t>M-«^vt</).
OttT IS in France have g^tveu us coupt^
and L-aiTLoa-L 1 barouche, too, I preaumeX besides
Olllifir n&mea; and their lively wit has often been
Ctlijd into play by novelties or peculiarities in the
gBDUi eoAcn ; er ^., of eighteenth-centary date,
1. A Bnull ooftch, which carried but one person,
HSi Ulflrefore dubbed *'a misanthrope/' 2, A
luiduiey coach with wooden blinda was called ** the
^uaide of sinnerBiy'* becftose the young men oarried
^Bimr muitreflses to a couDtry frolic in these vehicles.
■ WaibMini.
TnrccKT a>'d Newcombe. — Can any of your
^Mgder^ fnrnLili mje with replies to this cmeiy? —
^^^^Ber Eev. Willi^im Vincent, D.D., Dean
^^^h'' r, married J on Ifith inot 4bh, as at
^^^ft409k Aatfust, 1771, to Hannaii, daughter of
P^H^B Viyutt^ of St. M;irgaret's, Wentminster, by
■ tff wife Hannah (Wood) i What descendants of
*tiac Vincent (Windsor Herald, 1624, died
1625-6, and buiied at St. Benet*a,
j are now living ? He had a son
ent, of Uffington, Lincolnshire, who had
who married and bad issue* I am
making out a pedigree of the family of
scended from Miles Vincent, of Swin-
rehire, in 1317. John Newcombe,
William Newcombe, by his wife
^. 1;, bom 22d February. 1725, married
beth, i^iater of Dean Vincent, tut where and
the marriage took place I have not dia-
cavigred. I much wi^h to learn the places and
jKoct dates of the births and baptisms of their
djtjii,—Samh, bom about 1752; Eliziibeth, born
fft 1754: and William, bora 10th October,}
Tli i Newcombe became a banker
; bi Praeds'), and had a resideiioe
I Trent hick in Cornwall.
RKGt5fAi*t) Stewart Boddinotok.
IS, Markliaia Bqukre, S.VV.
Stft Qerard LTpFLETB. — Who was be? He
Elizabeth Mowbray, Duchess of Norfolk,
bisginning of the fifteenth century* Were
» any children of such marriage I A. C
CtAClDfACtJDOE^f, — What b this famous stone
k ljiTertu?ss ? What does the name mean, and [»
fe© any legend? D. F.
TuoitMB Wr^ - ^ OF BaETToN Hall,
17 WhowJis he/ He had
•yiaUn,,,.. .^. .;x-pkt<s of which I have a
Thm hi an obelisk on the led marked
kno\dtihjty formed of titpa of books, sunnountecl by
a bbizin^ star. In the centre, supported by (ignres
of ApoUo and Minerva, is a taolet bearing the
riu thorns name, with the price, number, and date,
entered in writing ; above tbis is the capital of a
column^ with figures of an owl, an ink-bottle, and a
trumpet, with the motto, on a flying scroll aboYe>
each thtir oi&n; below these is a globe, map,
piilette, compasses, &c., with a shield bearing crest
and arms ; and to the right the words **" Minerva
manufactory," — the whole being finely engraved,
Buenos Ayres.
"Seeing wmiouT PERCEivrwc.** — An article
with this heading appeared some time ago in
one of the minor periodicals. An indication in
" N. & Q." of where it may be found will much
oblige an old subscriber and occasiojial contributor.
*' Shot." — What is the meaomg and derivation
of the termimvtion in the local names Alderahot,
Brtgshot, &c. ? Is the tennination " shot " or " hot" I
If the latter, is it a coniiption of "holt"?
C. 0. B.
" CimiaTiANrTr as Old as Orjsation ; or, the
Gospel a Republication of the Religion of Nature."
— I want any infomiation as to the name of the
author of this book, published tn 1700 (4to, volume).
E. J.
" Sawt Day/*— In the mining districts of the
north of England the pay day used to be known^
and probably is BtiU, as the " savvy day." What
is the origin of the term ? Stephen Jackson.
Pi*Acioo, THE Cuban Poet,— Have the poems
of Placido, the Cuban slave (who was execQied for
*^ insurrection " at Hubana, July 7th, 1844), ever
been ooUecteil I I am anxious to see the original'
of the celebrated prayer which he chuuiited as he
wne led to death, and which has been transkted
by Whittier, W. E, A. A,
Busholme.
Thomas Wilsoh, M.P. roa Staftobd, 1812.—
Who was he, and what was the date of his death ?
Alfred B, Beaven, M^.
The Family of Pcrt, or Purjcy, of Tat^-
ton, GLoncRSTERSHTTtK. — What connciuon is there
between the Porys of Gloneestershire and the
Pureys of Kirton, Lincolnshire, the heiress of which
married Sir Richard Cast ? The anna are the aame*
In the CoU44^t4iiiea Topograpkka tt GenMh^fica of
Nichols, voL iv. p. 105, the anns of Puiyare men-
tioned as being impaled with those of DanT«!ra in
the windows ot St. Duns tan-in- the- West, mentioned
by Nicholas. Charles Poreyqaarters as., a fess^ or.
between three dnoks^acg. Yah!Qfii^«xixa^%t^^^l>
150
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(5'*S.1LAUG.22;'74
William Danveis was JuBtico of the Common Pleas
in 1488. Is there any pedigree of thfe Pureys, or
any account of them ? H. Cust.
"MoRi.K ExcOM I CTH," — In this aatirical work,
r the celebmted Emsmua, who La the person named
cotus ? The personation of Folly h represented as
rjaying—
** While I am acting the Divine and Tentaring into
their pwlemick difficultiea, wiih mjielf for aome time
anlmAted with i:icotua, hi a briatling and prickty soul,
which I would not care ho^v afterwanlB it returned to
his bcdy» though for rcfincmeut it were itoppod at ft
purgatory by the wjiy,"
A curious woodcut of the most humorous
description shows the purgation of the soul prior
to returning to the body of Scot us. Why " briatliDg
md prickly m\i\ *' ? ' J. B. P.
Bftrboume, Worcester.
AuTOOR Wanted, —
'^ An Arcbjcologkal Episik to the Reverend and
Worship fid Jeremiah MiUes, D.D., i>eau of Exeter,
President of the Society of Antiquirries, and Editor of a
mipcrh edition of the Poems of Tliom48 Rowley, Priest,
to which in annexed n Glossary extructed from that of
the Learoed Dean." 1 toL 4to., pp. 1&, Loud , 1782, Is.
Who wn,^ the writer of this lampoon on the
Kowley controversy ? Richakd HEMMiyo,
Mutf, Lib.j Warrington.
**Grimpe," jl Gamis at Cards,— In a letter
from St. Evremond to Harry Jermyn, Earl of
St. Albans, the uncient Epicurean remarks, talking
of the pleasantest manner of dying, ** Une vole ii
PHombre ; et a Grimpe troia iis naturels en premier
contre tioia neufs, termineront assez heureuseiuent
votre vie." What was **Grimpe"— a modifica-
tion of " Vingt-et-un " f And why the mime of
**Grijupe"? G, A, Sala.
Brompton.
P.S, — I hear some talk of the revival of the once
fashionable game of Hombrej or as it is misspelt
(owing to the non-pronunciation of the h in
Spanish), " Ombre/^ But, if the game bccomea
popular agttin^ it would be as well to insist upon
the hj as meiining ** Hombre^'* a man ; as other-
wise "Ombre" might be taken in its French
Biguification, as a shadow.
*' WORMING** FOR CANINE RABIB8.
(b*^ S. i. 5<)5,)
It is anything but an enviable task in Eng-
lish folk 'lore to have to make a note of the con-
tinuance of Huch a practice i*s that of '* worming '^
dogs. Unfortunately, the "old Cheshiiv gsir-
dener ** haa jnany town and country cousins litill
living who equally believe in the '* worm/' which
they gravely assert to exist in the tongue of the
do^. Half-grown pups very often have nn irre-
sistible desire for gnawing everything which coma
in their way; and people who would scorn the id«
of restmining the exuberance of their too-noiJ
urchins, by attempting to emdicate a tongue won
here see a very ditt'erent state of affaire* and havin
discovered a preposterous theory, proceed to ex
it by a cruel and absurd operation.
The origin of this hypothetical worm is a fib
septum which divides the tongue into two htdvil
in a vertical d inaction, and which, becomin
thickened on the under surface, presents the ap
pearance of a thin white ligament ; this is to
** worm," which is forthwith torn out by
professional or amateur wisejicre, while the
excited for a few days restrains the poor animal
from any desire to bite or bark, or even to eat.
The unnily pup is thought to be weaned from I * ~
wicked ways, but in nine cases out of tea he
turns, however, until nature performs the cure i
pushing out the temporary and providing the ]
manent fangs.
As to worming being of any use in preventi
rabies, it is only an instance of one of thf^ ...y-r
popular fitllacies, and of the pertinacity ^v
the more absurd a theory is the more pc ^^^t. -ii ,
stick to it. Who, at corn-cutting time, wheal
some yokel has accidentally succeeded in nearly
severing a limb, has not found him, deliberately
"letting it bleed a bit, maister," thinking that
herein hj the Urst principles of cure, and inform in^^
us for his reiison over and above, that his " fanlier
did so when he cut hisaelf, and his feythcr 'afore
him.''
We can nndergt^nd the ultimate nnalyuis of
reasoning in Goldsmith's animal, where —
*' The dog« to gain some private ends,
Went ijiad, and bit the man,"
when we meet with such men as the Chcshirti
gardener, with his " lone experience *' in worming- '
It is stmnge that the dog, which has been
the faithful ally of man so long that History ,
cannot remember at what perio^i of her Imby- '
hood he £rst left the beasts of the field, t^l
come under the roof as servant and friendil
should still be bo little understood* He indei^J
ought to be possessed of nine lives if Nicholai*
Cox is correct when he enumerates in his GeniU-
man*» Eecreaiion "seven sorts of madnesses whicli
afflict a dog/- He gives " divere cures and remediw
for biting of dogs," one of which may nof
out of phice here. ** Against the simpK
a dog> take the urine of a dog, which i^
since there is but little venom in those woy
To lay the hair of the same dog thereon Iff
much tjdkt on) I look upon as ir '' np
We laugh at this reitie<ly of two \
ago, but the various suggestions oLu*tJHM<i
a modem crowd around a dog in a fit .ixe 5
absurd and ridiculous— lancing his mouth, bh
his " shoulder veins/' cutting his tail^ alittlng i
ju^^m
NOTES AND QUERIES.
151
I
I
liis tBi^ rubbing his nose with buckthorn, tobacco,
salt, and loatly the hiaty truncheon of mme intelli-
geot constAble, if he am be found, are »ome of the
cries which are only too fu miliar to all of ua.
There are, probably, no more raad dogs about
now than there were fifty or a hundred years ago.
Most things and thoughts revolve in the cycle of
XI, and every dog ha« bis day, though those
tied to the canine tribe are for the most part
Latterly the ciy of " road dog " has again been
nifled, and in many instances it has acted like the
tail-tied tin kettle on Kome poor cur who was
enduring the pain of returning sensation after an
ofdinaiy fit, and who only wanted to get away
fram. everybody, and, like Mark Twain's horse,
^lean np against a pist and think.*'
In the second volume of the Citisen cf the
World U an article on the ^* Epidemic Terror, the
dread of Mad Dogs, which now prevails ; the
whole oation is now actually groaning under the
mali^ity of its Influence," which ia an outcry
qniie as great as ours of 1H74.
Rabiea ia a very rare disease in England ; and
wlien an epidemic breaks out, it is generally found
to proceed from one, or, at the most, two cases of
decided madness, the others Ijcing simply lite of
an ordinary kind, aggravated by hooting and hunt-
ing, and which with proper care and common-
sense are in no way dangerous to man. Of the
cause and tre:U,ment of rabies nothing is known,
except tbit irritation is likely to help on any pre-
di:9poaition in a greater degree than any other
cau«e in this the most naturally nervous of rdl
AninnJjt. J. Devekish Hoppus,
The ** thorough ventilation" of the subject
hronght forward by Junii Nepos will be best
ffieetod by a good blast^ strong enough to blow
away altogether the vulgar error of worming dogs.
No doubt there are to be found in every neigbbour-
hood men who^ either from ignorance or dishonesty,
are ready to cut a puppy's tongue and extract a
wappoaed worm. When anything is really taken
oat, it is the duct of the poor animal's salivary
dand, which is made to do duty for a worm.
How utterly absurd is it to suppose that such a
cnnture, even if it existed under every pupp/s
tooffoe, would lie there quietly for years, neither
oncMi^ing transformation nor changing its habitat,
and then, at last, in one instance among a hundred
HKmfand dogs, would cause such a constitutional
5 aa hydrophobia ! J. Dixon.
CttARi ^T ss GiTNN (5«* S. ii. 88.)— Charles
BaliM (i es*') Gunn, after publishing his
\ SmuUo. -^ ^'-'' nt Yarmouth, became
'LaoiUT Language and Litera-
[tovt^at t«iv J^....... I ..* i . , .iiimsium, Amsterdam*"
IH^poUiilwd in liotterdam, 1859, Th€ Hittoriml
Et4}thT and Translator; Exerci^fs on Archhi^top
Whnkhy* *' ♦Si/«ont/?rw," London, ISCf); ManutU
iff Modern Engluh Prose Literature, Haarlem,
1862 : Goldm Treasury of English Poetry, Am-
sterdam, 1862 ; and .4 Manual of Modern Eng-
lish Foetieal Littraturf^ Haarlem, 1863. These
books were written, their author tells us, for uae
in " those Educational Establishments in which a
well-grounded knowledge of the Language and
Literature of my country is cultivated and appre-
ciated.'*
In 1864 appesared, on the 15th of each month,
Th4 Entjlish and American Mmithhj Etviewer,
Conducted by C. H, Gunn. Amsterdam, Binger
Brothers." Twelve numbers only were published.
Mr. Ixglis is right in thinking Mr, Gunn a Cam-
bridge man. In the July numWr of the Eftnetoer
appeared the following lines, which I should like
to see rescued from the remains of the extinct
Amsterdam Reviewer: —
"Tea AoiD CANTi^a to bjs Ootttoa Cap a»d Oowir.
Damao^a quid non imminutt diei T->HoR.
Ah f there ye bang^ my cap and gown ! — meroentoes
of the past, —
And ye, like lae, I plainly wee, arc fs^infi^ very fait :
S?ince iaflt we beard the Proctor's voice, * Your Colleca
and your name ? '
We 'vc changed alike , my good old friends, and nought
remains the same !
Ye once were black as black could be, but DOW a ruMet
brown J
Time dulls the jet wMch once was yours, my College
cap and gown 1
And I^ too, share as hard a fate,— he makes tnei too,
his prey, —
Ye saw me with my bright jet locks, and now ye see
me grey 1
Each College scene ye bring to mind of Commons and
ofHAll;
Of scnimhling to the Chapel gate at winter roon)£iig*a
call:
Aad aA on you I paze it seems that College days return,
And &U the ardour of my youth afresh begins to bumf
Ob, how we passed the bappy time, nor feared tb«
Dons a bit,
And laughed at all the Dean prf scribed, in jocmid fun
and wit !
And when Commencement week at length brought
beauties to the town*
We thought, I Tear, much more of them thasi books,
my College gown.
But now, alas ! those College days are gone for ever
No more for as the Tictor*a bump,—' Bt John * and
'Trinity*!
Ko more for ua the merry meal, the hoax, the laugh,
the fun,—
The fleecingt of a smooth-tongued Gyp who charged
us three for one t
Ah t happy days, for eyer past,— now Oranta*s charroi
are o*er, —
ThotJgh Mem'ry— potent sibyl !— lores to haunt ibem
as of yore ;
152
NOTES AND QUERIES.
L6»^8. a At?B.22l7»
Down Lethe a aMe etfeAta tkej j^Mt, 7et» gildings
seem to «U7r —
The hop63» the )Qj9, the Ioto of youth, to clj««r Life's
darkening: daj.
Qtanta ! these icenee are freah ftnd fur, inscribed on
McmWe page ; —
They urged the luidour of my youth ^ imi2 now they
cheer my a^e ;
Long cherished be the memVy of thy lored and
nonoured name, —
Thy ttreumi of lore from which I ahUied my youthful
thirst for fame.
Time in his flight has borne mo on to farrowed age, it
And d&y 1^ day I *m gliding down Life*i ererflowing
atre&ms:
The Ocean of Btemitj !— there they are winding
down,—
And I muat go and leare you here» my College cap and
gown!
" a H. Gujnr."
Sparks Henderson Williams,
Kensington Orescenti W.
Columbus (6"^ S, L 448.)— Columbut died at
Valladolid, May 20, 1506 (Ascenaion-djiy), aod
wns buried in the Convent of San Franciaco. In
1 513 his body was transported to the Carthuaiaii
Monaat^ry of Lata Ousvnfl, at Seville. His son
Fernando U buried in the cathedral of thjit cityj
and it ifl on his tomb thut the well-known motto —
** A Caitillft y ji Leon
Mnndo nnevo dl6 Colon/'
is inEcribed.
In 1636 his body, with that of his son Diego,
wag removed to St. Domingo, and there interreS ;
but on January 15, 1796, hia booeJi were brought
to Havana, and deposit^ tn an urn covered by an
ereet monumental shib on the left-hand aide of the
entrance to the choir of the cathedral. The in-
scription beneath the bust of the discoverer, which
forms a portion of the monument, is m follows :—
" 0 Eotta BO Imngen del Gnode Colon I
Mil ngloa dnntO goArdadoe en hi Urna
T en U romemhniMB do Nucatra Naclon J '*
The blazon of his arms given at the reference
above is a curious translation of a part of the
blazon which I |3:ave in " N. & Q^" 2«'* S. xii. 401.
The '* Cope of Castile and Loon " is the same thing
as ** Tescu en mimteau," &c
I may, perhaps^ be allowed to answer my own
auery at the latter reference, by giving the bkzon of
le augmented arms of the great navigator. They
were — quarterly; 1. Gu. a castle or (Caslik).
2, Arg, a lion rwnp. eu. crowned or (Leon),
3. A aea, az. seme of iiJands aig., covered with
trees proper, and strewn with crains of gold, the
blue of the qmirter surrounded by a similar repre-
sentation of a portion of the terra firma, 4. Az.
five anchors in saltire or. The whole — mU en
pointf Biury wavy aig. and az.
John Woodward,
The PariODsge, Mon^oee*
"4
I have seen tho t<mib of Oolrnnbus In
eathedral at Havanti. Both the cathedisi
the tomb disappoint expectution&f especially
former, on ooming, as I did^ after seeing llw
cathedral in the city of Mexico. There is a wood
cut drawing of ea<m in Hazard's Csiha. nnbl
in 1B71 by Measfs. Sampson Low, S
Columbus died at Valladolid, 20tii I
His remains were removed to Seville in 1513, tb(
in 1536 to San Domingo, sod in 179(5 to Cuba.
The inscription on the monument is very poor ini
expression. Thomas Falconcil
OsTfiMAK (5*** S, ii. 110.)— This word is in oom*
moo use still in Kewcastle-on-Tyne, twj applied to J
a society fstill in existence there. The word \mM
spelt "ostman or hostman" by Brand, the locdT
untiquaiY, who traces the use of it to very early
times. Hi| derivation of the word from tho bar- 1
barous Latin oustmanni^ i. c, the es^tnii^n, is opSA J
to question* It seems much more si
it as the German word winwin, or
eastern countries, with whom we muHi
in early times our chief trade was c:.
John Evelyn tells us, in his Diary , that
was in Antwerp (October 4, 1641) he v
Ot^ters houit belonging to the East Inti
pany. Our word iterUny h by many <
to be only a oonuptiou of Omtcr/iJi^, anoti
stance of our close communication with f*
in business transactions. The society of
or boatmen (says Brand) existed as a gudd OfPi
fraternity in the town of Newcaiitle-on-Tj^ue ftcml
time immemorial, and appears finally to have beeaj
incoTporat<?d by royid charter about the year 159^^
by Queen EUmbetL The society still lives under
the name of the Ostman^s Oompiuiy, and anaoally
elects its governor and stewards on the 4th «f
Januoxy. Its funds, which I believe Rm not warn
considerable, are devoted to charitable ami be*-
pitable uses. Francis BitoiiL£T.
at, Anac'Sp HewcsBtlo-on-Tjne.
In the lAfi of Lord Eldon by Twias, there ii
the following note on this word (vol i« pi, ^4,
1844):—
" We learn from Brwid'e HiHory of N'emeaHti'amfTfm
(17S9. voL ii. p. 269) that » society of ostmea or hoftmw
liAd existod as a ^ild or fratemity in that town fhwi
time immeinoriAli proriotis to their InoorpocutkMi b;
ch&rtcr in IQQO hy (^ueea EUzAboth."
He adds :■ —
" The csuie of their ri t^eemstol'' i
in the Bubseqaent statu \ , cap. 9 < \
'' Murchiknts alieiui : -..._ . o it i« ordk . .
fltablUhed that in everie Gitie« towne and porto oi
ioa in Eaglandi where the aoide marchantd aXUm .
strangeri l^ or thall be repairing, sufficient hooties s (laii
be aatiffned to the samo inarohADti by tho maior» iheriffM,
or bainffea. of the mid cities, townet, and porlea of the
aea ; and tuat the mid marohaates aliens attd stnttgrfi
dB.
& n. Al»>. 23, 7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
153
. ia fiane other p1iL9«^ bui nith tbeir B&id
tQ b« usigucd, and that the hudo lioitcs so to
I
^ i for their tr»T»iIe in the itianer aa
fMeuiCauied in olde time." ^StatuU* by Barker, 1567,
▼ol. I p. 228.
Bnmd farther states thut it appears from tbe
eailieBt entries in the booki< of thiH society of
iMMfltmen, that the stranger arriving ui the port
d TfM to buy ccala ia ^ed '' iha oaste "" ; Bud
h» ^ves an engravinjr of " The Seiile of the Fre-
tcmity of the Ostmen of the Towne of Newcastle-
upon-Tine," representing the hoastman receiving
toe stiozjger and addresaing him tbua, *^ Weloome
my oste.
He quotes also that —
*■ Camden, in hia BriianAia, toL il foL, 1319, gfTea
the following «tjriiioii r —
*' * The word hottmeo may not improperly bo t&ken to
be trmden into the ewteni part« of Europe, and may
hftve their name from the Iditin word ouatmanni, i. €.,
the eAftmen, h trading into those part«« aa well aa the
nnttnianni, L €., the eaitmen, who came from the lea-
oo««t of G«nnanv into Ireland, where, under colour of
tradn and merchandise, being admitted into iome of
their citiet, in a ahort time they began a very terrible
war/"
H. B. PURTON.
Weobtey.
Ill the Chanoery proceedings to which your cor*
wpOiideiit alludes I doubt not but it meanfi 'a
mr^ml seller. Thus I find :--
" Jfo«f(-«9«iiY an ancient guild or fraternity (trading
tiwaeoal) at Newcaatle."— Colea'a JSn^uA fXdi&naryf
"Otif or DoU (C.*), a vesicl, on which hopi or malt u
diyod.*'— Keraeya £n^luh Dictionary, 1715^
*• ^oojc-ntfii, an ancient company ,of deaJert in aea-
eoal at Newcaatle-apon-Tyne/'^Keraey'a Sn^lith 2>i>-
liMary. 1715*
"0«j< (S.C.) (iouth country word), a kiln,**— Bayey'a
bitilsiamm, 17^1.
" Ott^ Oottt a veeael upon which hopa or malt ii dried."
^BMtey'B DtOionary, 1751,
' ihntt^Mmf an ancient company of traders In aea*eoal
il 2Ic«liaitku"->6aUey'B Dietionartf, 1751.
C GOLDIHO.
Paddington,
In Kent the Od^ or OaM^ is the kiln in which
ihc liopi are dried, and the Oatmaii is the peraon
etoployed in drying them. If the word, as Bailey
givisi it| mean any kind of kiln, then Otieman may
01 properly he understood of a drier of miilt aa a
drier of hnp*. " Maltster " I take it, more properly
aueuia the deiiler in tualti or the master for whom
the OtUmcDx works.
Edituxd Tew, M.A.
Odeman = *' kiln-dryer," undoubtedly. The
Unftdte wnrd is tut, at^ m icst ; nnd there is the
'*to kiln -dry." Hopscame to ns^ I
It^Htve^ Won ilie ^'eiherlands.
JoRN ADDrs.
I comaiiy ygrd«
From osty oo^^i^ oavi, a kiln or a vessel upon
which hopa or malt are dried (see Johnson, Bailey,
and Wedgnnood's Dictimiarm). The word is allied
to, and it may be derived from, the Dutch lUk
which ia explained in Hexham's Neifurduyki
DictionairUf 4to., 1660, to be *^ a pkce where
bioley is dr\ ed to make malt with,* and by Kilian,
in his Di ! T^lofiico - Latinum^ n&,
"Ustrina, C-! rua fornax,'*
Mabsl Peacock.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg*
Mutton's " L' Allegro " (6^ S. i. 406 ; ii. 94.)
—Mr. Bbnkett haa, I see, very nearly, but not
quite, put his linger on the spot. He gives you
^ tell" and **told/' I will go a step further and
give you ** tale," the word, and in the sense Milton
meant it The three words are still in use on the
sheep farms in the Teme Valley, and the distinct
meaning of each of them will be apparent in the
following passage, which is an extract from a work
I am preparing for the press (not on "fblkdore,"
but a three- volume novel)* The dialogue is be-
tween master and man, and the scene is a night
rescue of sheep firom the flood, the aheep being
huddled together on a knoll, the water rushing
round them ;—
'''Stop a bit,' laid Frank, 'and well tell themorer.
It mar ho some are lost/
** * A han told 'em aur/ iaid the wagoner,— who had
alreadv counted them, — as he acctured one ewe and
6trugglod stOQtty with another.
" ' And what do you make the t&Ie of em then ? *
'"^Sivenan forty sur/ said William; *nointeen Iambi
an aight an twenty ship.'
'* ' That 'a right then, for the rest arc by the house. So
now let's go to work/ "
Any Teme Valley man will at once recognise
the above, and such phrases as these, as nttenmces
in daily use :—
" Tse agwain to tell tlie ahip aur."
'* Tlicy bin all roight aur ; me and Jem han told 'em.**
*^ They bin all theer aur. Ise gotten the talo on *eni."
Besides, it is by no means probable that Milton
would negative his claim as a close observer of the
realities of rural life — which the very context of
the line {iroves him to have been — by adding to
the solitajy and matter-of-fact occupation of the
fihepberd the ideal and companionable one of love-
ninking. I must, therefore, agree with Mr. Bek-
>ETT*s proposition, that Milton's meaning of ** tells
his tale " is, in reality, " counts his flock."
Shelslet BEAUcaaMr.
Paris Prisons (S*"* S. L 468.)— La Maine.
This was the house of the Premier President of
the Palais de Justice, and in now the Pr^ectute
de Police. It is near the Ste* Chapelle.
Le Plessis was formerly a college, known during
the Revolution under the name of "Maiaon d'Arwt
de TEgalite," and was in the lu^^^AsicKYXTftisjcA ^V^i^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
fC'* a IL Atjr,, 22, 71-
Ste. Pelagie, formerly s, convent of nuns, was
suppressed at the Revolution of 1789, and aftcr-
wania cod verted into a prison for debtora. It ia
in the Rue du Pints rHermite and Rue Copeau.
Les MjMlelonnettea. These buildings formerly
belonged to a society of nuns ctdled Les Filles de
la Madeleine, who devoted themselves to the re-
claiming of abandoned women. Since the Revo-
lution of 1789, tbey have been used, first as a
prison for females, and on their removal to St.
Lazare, as a temponur prison for men and boys.
This vuiison d^arrtt is situated in the Rue des
Fontaines, between the Rue du Temple and the
Euc St. ^fartin.
Les Carmes, Rue de Vaugirard, 7iX The church
still exists, and waa used as a prison in 1792 ; but
the convent which was attactied to it has been
destroyed.
St. Lazare. This wa« the ancient convent for
the LaKariBta, or hospital for leprosy, in the four-
teenth century. In 1652 it was given to St.
Vincent de Paul for his congregation of the Pretres
de la Mission. In 179(), it became *' propriete
nationale/* and in 1793, a prison.
The buildings now existmg were constructed by
St. Vincent de Paul or his successors, and are tlie
same as the present Prison de St. Lazare, 1(>7, Rue
dn Faubourg, St. Denis. {Pai-ii Quidf^ by Jules
Simon, chapters " Lea Ptisona *' and " Les fegliaes
de Paris " ; Paris Guidf^ by Galignani). Much
information on the prisons of Paris will be
obtained by consulting Maxiine du Camp*a Work^
Paris, vol. iii., and Les Fruoris de Parts 30U9 la
Biwdution, par C. A. Dauban. M. Van Ets.
Medal of Willtam L (5**» S. iL 67.)— It fomis
No. 1 of Daasier'a Medah of the Kin^s and Qiiecnf
of England^ so common and well known.
J. W. Fleming.
BrightoD.
Insulae Accentuations (b^ S. ii, 66,)— In
conversation with an American the other day, he
said, speaking of modern "arras of precision/-
** any soldier now-a-daya failing to advocate some
sort of protection for infantry, in the shape of
a narrow iron shieid which tx>uld easily be carried
in place of a knapsiick, deserved a L Qua tic Asylum."
M, W. W.
Brooks.
A Vallohbrosian Nl'n (b^ S. ii, 95.)— The
order of VaJlis Umbrosa waa founded by St. John
Gualbert. Of this order, there were houses both
of men and of women :^** Suntque illius instituti
plurima monaster ia turn viromm tum virgin um
in Italia."— Beyerlinck, Mag. Tluaintni Viim
Humanm^ vol vi., p, lOWL
An account of the founder may be seen in
Butler*8 Livu of the ^xnti, under his feast day,
tfaljr JSL Also J I beL'eve, in Surius, Dc Probaiu
Sanctorum HuioHu ; the Acta Sanctorum of the I
Bollandists ; and the Ada Snnctornm ffrdinit]
Samti Benedicli. In this bookless region, I regret J
to say that I have no means of consulting tiie|
hist three. Edwabo Peacock.
Botteeford Manor, Brigg.
*' Lis abee's Love Story" (5** S. i. 5£0),publl8he
in 1865, by Messrs. Hurst & Blackett, was writtei* j
by Miss Matilda Betham-EdwardR, though issued (
anonymotusly, as was tdso Jofm and /, by the Faiue^j
author, in 1862. Gaston de BEFiVFVAU
Fbiladelpbia.
** AuLD Wife-rake '' {5^ S. i. 468) is, 1 bclieve-
an annual party held in the lake district nt which
married women of distant dales meet in the Ion
days of summer, and where, I have read in lo
papers, they have very plcasitnt gatherings, now, 1
perhaps, not confined to matrons. Mr. Ferguson
has " /wLte, a convivial meeting, i>erha[ks frt>m Wcl.
haig, a crowd." In this sense, the word is un-
known in other portions of the county, so far aa I j
know. It is probably an old name revived, tut ]
I do not remember it in early days. M.
Ciunbcrland.
Whisky (4^ S. xi. 156.)— On the 8th ot June, j
1723, was formed at Edinburgh the Society ofl
Improvers in Agriculture, the tirst association of 1
the kind in the United Kingdom. The Duke of j
Hamilton moved imd cju-ried a resolution against J
drinking foreign stutf, ** that thereby the distillin|;C
of our gniin might be encouraged, and the grcAt |
sums annually sent to France for brandy, generally
smuggled, might be kept at home." It thus and j
then became a point of honour to drink only home- j
made whisky, which, becoming popular by degrees, i
acquired the character it hiis long home of Deiii;g'
pre-eminently " Scotch drink " {GentleniafC^ Maga-
siTW, August, 1870, art., " The First Agricultniiil
Society"). J. Mancbl.
" Bonnie Dundee'' (^^ S. ii, 5.)— That CUTe^ J
house did not die on the field of Killiecrankie in I
proved by the fact that a despatch by him, iaj
which he alludes to his wound, and exi^re.sses hopesJ
of his recovery, was 'WTitten the dajr after thcl
battle. This document, says a writer in thei
Antiquanj, YoL iv. (1873), p, 289,18 now in ibel
Bodleian Library at Oxford, together with tbcl
other letters and papers of Naime, King James IL^a 1
private secretary. It was published in Macpher-I
son*s Chriginal Paper$t 1775. Scott, in his raic»J
of a GrandfaUutf says :—
"Obserring the stand made by the two £r>g1U!ll
regimeatd, ht gallop«d towardg tho Claa of M««Don«]il«]
and vflj in the act of bringing them to the chaixe^ wltlrl
his right »nn elerated, as if pointii^g to the 'w»y <if
victory, when he was struck by a bullet bencnth thd
nrmpitf where he wu unprotected by hii cuirnflg. H«|
tried to ride on, bat being tmable to keep hh Bttddle,!
fell^ moTUdly woa&ded, and died m the eourt€ of the
After receiving his wound he waa curried to the
house of Blair-Athole, about two and a lialf miJes
ftom the field of battle, where he died the day
alter. He was buried in the church of Blair ; but
it is annonnoed in the Antiquary, p. 56 of the
fiiune yolunie, —
Some few vears ago a too xealous admirer^ in some
thcr-
or other — not yet explained— romorcd the ro-
maliw to the Scotch Episcopal Chapel at Old Deer in
Aberdeenshire, where the hero now Ue§, and a stained
^tflM window in the chapel conunemorat^ the fact."
Brack's FiciuT€9qu^ Tmirui of Scotland (1873)
sajTBi —
*• Not far from Urrard Honte there may he obBorred
an erect stone in a field on the right hand, which has
often been pointed out as a rude monument to Dundee.
More accurate obaerration, ho were r^ ha« assigned a spot
in the grounds of Urrard, higher up, as the one where
the hero fell,"
F. A. Edwards.
•' Kkave" (5«» S. ii. 31.)— Fuller, in hia Churck
HiUory (1655), book iv, p. 142, says : —
* About this time, he (Wycliffe) ended his triinilation
of the Bible into English (afuir copy whereof in Qu€fn'i
Colledg in Oxford^ and two more in the Unirertity
Ltbrary) done no doubt in the most expressive language
of Ihoie dayeSf though sounding uncouth to our ears,
Tki Kman QfJetut C\riH,for Servant
The existence of a genuine printed Bible with
the word " knave " instead of servant has long
>>een disproved. Wycliffe does use the word
* Knave -child " for man child, or male childi four
times in hia veruion — Ex. i. 16, Lev. xii. 7,
Bed OS, rxxvi. 23, Apoc. xii. 5 ; and " knave-
children " once — Ex, L 18» but never "knave" for
' senrimt (see Madden and Forahall's edition of
Wyclifle*8 Bible). E. K.
Boston.
"Favoitr'* (6^ S. ii, 64) ifl used in the aarae
tense^ ha given by A[r. Blenkinsopp and F. D.,
11] in the north of Scotland generally, — a«j for in-
stance, speaking of a good-looking man, north-
[ country people say he is " weel fauitl." E. M.
"Dkinologt" (5^^ S. ii. 68.)— A book with
I this title was published in 1789 : —
•* Deinologj ; or the Union of Reason and Elegance ;
l^fini? TTjfltn lotions to a Young Barrister; with a Poat-
ag some Considerations on the Viva Voce
^ f Witnesses at the English Bar. By
lloruiiaiat. [Hto. London, Rohiceons, 4*,}/'
Under **Hortentiua [sic]^ Bup]>08ed fictitious,'^
' Dr. Watt mentions an edition, with the same title
HM above, published in 1801.
Sparks Henderson Williams.
Oliver Cbomwell (5"» S. ii. 68.)— The maker
©f alcoanacs alluded to apjiears to be William
iDy, a I»eicestershire man (bom 1602, died 1680),
wIMi tuocofdmg to Stephen Jones'a Bio^raplikM
^ C
■of
Hud
1^
Dictionary (London, 1805), was consulted l.)oth
by the King and General Fairfax, and made hLi
fortune by favourable predictions to both [>artie.'j.
William Winu.
Steeple Aston, Oxford.
" 81NOPLE ** (5^ S. ii. 88) ought to menu red.
See Andrewa^s Lai.-Eng, Lexicon^ Hofmanni
Lexicon Universale^ and Chambers's Cyclopaidiaf
ed. 1738. In heraldry, however, it has come to
mean verL Both meanings are illustrated in
Dufresne, Glouarium Medus et InftnuB Latinitatis^
ed. l846,»nA voce "Sinopis." Edward Peacock.
Heraldic (S"* S. ii. 88.)— Jennour of Essex.
See Papwortha Ordina/ry of British Armorials^
p. 640. J* R.
St. Neot's.
HusE (5^ S. ii. 80.)—
'< And a« h€ paaNs torn. "
He must be a misprint for sJu. In the edition
published by Messrs. Nelson k Sons, Mr. Mathew
wUl find it —
" And as $hi passes torn.''
W. J. Macadam.
*' Guesses at Truth" (5^ S. iL 89.)— U. is, I
believe, Augustus Hare. I have not now by me
the "Golden Treaaury'* edition, which is my
authority for this, and my recollection of it is a
little fainfc ] but I rather think there U a note in it
giving the authors* names.
C. F. S. Warren, M.A
The Society of Arts' Memorial Tablets
(b^^ S. ii. 106.) — Certainly Dickens's house ought
to be marked ; but why la Howth^s house, or the
site, not marked i Why ia not Sir Isaac Newton's ;
Turner's, at 47, Queen Anne Street, and 26, Maiden
Lane; Count EtimfordX At what used to be
45, Brompton Row, the balconied house ; the
house where Curran died, 7, Ameliti Place?
Unless a special fund m mised for the express
purpose of setting up these memorial tablets, the
work will never be thorougMy done.
0. A. Ward.
M&yfair.
[There is a tablet bearinf? Franklin's name on the
house in Crayen Street, Strand^l
GiPST Marriage (6*** S. iL 109.) — Eauni
MirtUa'fi vocabulary required " friends will kindly
accept this intimation'^ to be paraphrased into
*' who tells these words to aU Gipsy brethren,"
She wished them to laugh with her, and not to
laugh at them. FkiUissin is a tmnslation of
Herreffoard, and signifies a hall or mansion.
T. Crofton.
WrATT Familt (5* S. iL 108.)— There hiia
been a family of this name located for many years
156
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*^ a II. At70. 22, 74.
at To^enliam, near Moreton-in-Marsh, Gloucester-
shire. As one (iiinily Mr. Bodhinoton mentions
is described of somewhere in the adjoimnt» county
(OxfordBhire), it may chance that there is a close
relationship between the two, and he might, there-
fore, be able to find information to farther enlighten
him from the parish register of the quiet parish
mentioned above. I know the name is of long-
standing' thereabouts, both from my own observa^
tton and from what my friends have t-old me.
Dan. Harrisox.
** Academic Errors/* &c. (d^ S. ii, 109.)— I
have seen this ascribed to Dr. Valpy, but believe
it to be the work of his brother, the Rev. Edward
Valpy, B.D., of Trinity College, Cambridge, who
Assisted the Doctor in nis educatiomid labours.
A. G.
Hattian Pokt (b^ S. ii. 109.)— Thia stanza
might be much more truly called " beautiful " if it
were doctrinally correct. ** Simple" it certainly
is, and in more senses than one of the word ; for
everybody having the slightest pretent^ion to any
theological knowledge knows, or ought to know,
that the souls of the dead do not beconio angels.
Equal unto the angels they are, no doubt ; but
that is a thin^ as different as possible. The pre-
valence of this error is rather renmrkable, Mr.
Sabine Baring-Gould alludes t« it in the Curioui.
MytJu (iu 292), where he would give it a heathen
origin. C. F. S. Warrkj*, MJL
"The sword wearing out the scabbard"
^6*>» S. ii. 109.)— In the ApopMh^gmi of EraamuB
(1542), Book L No. 191, the following is given as
a saying of Diogenes: —
" Hauyng » jromig ikitiile^iig of a vcraye wet fuioured
nnd honest face, v»jng vnhoQ^st communicacion, Art
ihou not aihwaed. quoth he, to drawe a Swoordc of lead
out of an ieuorie iheathe?"
In the some Book the body is frequently idluded
to as ** a sheathe " and **a peignted sheathe,"
R E.
Bocton.
Ittak Wslton, in his inimitable ZAfe of George
H$rheH^ records that *' ho would often say [of him-
self] * He had too thoughtful a Wit : like a pen-
knife in too narrow a sheath, too sharp for his
body.''' A,
This query immediately suggests to my mind
the well-known lines in Dryaen's AbsaJom ami
AchitophtJj in the portrait of Lord Shuflesbuiy : —
*' A iicry soul^ which working out ite wa^.
Fretted the pigmy body to decay.
And o*er-infornied the tenemeiit of clay,"
J. W, W.
SpTiNG Literature (6«> S. ii. 107,)— 'There is
a thin 4to. pamphlet^ 16 pp., not included in Mr.
FoBTSJi'BhBi:—*^CnrmuGia€ialif; m, ikoHng:
A^m
a Poctiml Sxmtf, inscribed to the clnb, '* O^ror
Euro." " Har.: Printed in the Month of JimaBijy
MDccLxxrr.*' £^&
I don't see anything jjoetical in Mr, Foanx^
list. There is a short poem, entitled Sha$inf^
among the translations in the MiseeUantacf J, 0^
IS 18, a privately printed book, by Jiitne« Glasi-^
ford ; it ifi thei^e trunHlated and given with I
original Oursus Glaciixlis of Phil, Frowde« reprints
from Anglic* Afttsar. AnaltcUi. A. 6,
1
Col, TALENTiyi: Waittox (5*** S. ii. 1 "
papentaj?e of Ck)L Wanton is niiknown.
Cromwell, CJ,B., appointed liiin heir to ;
of Sir George Wanton, but probably th^r. \v. ^ .
blood relationship between them.
Joseph Kix, MJ),
8t. Neot's,
** Les Provinclales ** (b^ S, i 328, 37F,)— Is
Mr. Williams aware of the fiict that ' Pr.
Ludov. de Montalto" was Blaise Paiscal hiu
the author, and not the translatorp of ^ '
Apparentl j^ not, for be quotes Watt as n t
for assigning the first English transL
person of the former nam© ; whereas
does is to assi^ the authorship to Dr. l.v^^^,
being himself ignorant of the real authonhip ifbt^
he penned the entry imder that word, tboogb
he seems to have asoertalned it when he reached
the word "Pascal,'' The fact is, that Watt sn«l
Allibone are very unsafe guides, though th^
stupendous work they have accomplished (or
Englidi bibliography makes it appear alauit
UDgmcious to refer to the vast noniber of most
with which they abound,
Gaston de Berneval
Philadelphia.
Lord Chatham and Baiuet^ "T>H-noKARf1
(5«» S. i.448,B14.)— If itwill a^ist ^
in arriving at a more proximate dn^
of Bailey's UmverMot Etymologic
tionary^ I beg to state for his inlV
have a copy of the j^econd edition* in i vo
published m 1724, which is an earlier edit''
either of those referred to by yonr
or the one in his otsti poss^aioi^ ;
dedicated to the children of Geom j _
and WQhelmina Charlotte. I have wo & 4
the fifik edition of the second vol.,
lished in 1760. B.
Bradford.
" EVKBT MAN IS THE ARCHrTECT," &a (4*
514; 5"^S. i, 471.)<"
** I hare long been in search of a passage in Gn«k
frrlteti parallel to thii proreih, Chn a^iy one saili*
me I ''
The following extracts arcs, I think, n^
the remarks by which this qmry is accoi
31
.ILAva.22,';4.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
157
and the proverb vrhkh. the extracts are adduced to
illti&tmte is at least aaaiogoua to the one refeored
ta>-
•**Ai»do*«roc *Av6pi5irov ^atfiovwVs PJinii loouB
hue ptrtlii^t, lib. ii. c. 7, Natur. BiMUmxe; Hie eit
I referendl bcDCiniGrentibus gmtiivm moB, ut
t&les numinibuB adscribant. Quippc et omnium alionim
oonuiMi t3L bominnm riftta font montiB. Et Jurernfttis
\r. 132] Quidm^ntA tibi ffi quia Deus^ &tii similii liitB,
£t melior fatiB donaret homuucio* Pmvtrhio, ZeaobiL'*
I Cfr. Juv. X, 365:—
I ''KttUnni nuoien abest, si ait Prudentia : nos te,
^ Nob fwimiiB, Fortune, Deam ctcloque locamoi."
And the notes in loc, by Gifford. ^otfjipotrvvii,
mens stvmi in cori)oro sano, is the real source of
CV6«<^OVIO. BiBLIOTHfiCAR. ChETHAM*
Ekolish SuBKAMsa (5^ S. i 262, 330, 352,
391» 47< »0— Mr, Sala, speaking of the " Macs,"
obeerres — " Thus also from * Thomas ' there him
L|jrobably dropped off that * Ap,- which is still
IHIftiiied by a celebnvted living harpist." Kather
ited than reUiined, for the harpist in ipie^tion
&e only one of the faanily, I believe, who use a
I the Ap, The "Ap'' in Wales onJy remuins in tbt
I c^mjptiona of Ap Kichard = Pritchard ; Ap Hupjh
I = Pngb, &c., and the harpbt in (question seeniw to
I tmve wished to foreignize hia pMn name of Thomas
into ** Aptommaa/' and to be known as "Aptoma/'
as un-Welsh a word as possible. A. E.
Groe»wylan, OsfWettry.
Allow mo to challenge Dil Charkqck's (p, 331}
incidental identification of the surname Ruhcr
with Hubert J for which there is no warrant. The
forroer, equivalent to our Engl isli word "cotter/'
" Lihe iniiuedinte derivative of " hub " = niansui?,
I croft or piece of land cultivated for his own
by a serf- The German historian Vonarx
' gtat^es that a *^ hub " generally contained from
i^^rfy to forty acjiea ; if it exceeded fifty, it
dved the name of **hof" = villa, ^ The
He Hubert or Hubert us, of immediate French
pamitAge. though nri;:nni«lly belon^finff to the
ftnmerous class of Tcutoinc names in "bert," has
no connexion with the appellative " huber.''
C. A* Federer.
Iford.
That bieats Akkbo ** (5* S. L 148, 255, 317,
476.}— " Akebo " is probably a pia<:«, sayings of
tbe same sort, about towns, kv., not being rare. It
if, perhapft, Agliabo {Archadh-bo'Caiftniyh)^ in
9w?m*« (>imty. The name means simply " cow-
he addition of " Saint Cainnech," to
lie plncc fmm others of the same
nai] '" ■\ " ' ^ot of Archadh-bi5, is
tic^ to have died here in
5^8. 1 ii». nnd-u jrs ri x i v ing, howevcr, h "That
bates Bannghcr; and B?»uarrher bate the DireL''
n R
k
Tkk AcActA (4'^ S, xii pmim ; 6^ S. i. 67,
1S»7, 316, 457.)— A note in The Ckridian Year on
the noero for the Fifth Sunday after Eaeter, on
whici day the lesson is read descriptire of Mose^
seeing the bush buminii; with fire but not oon-
fnimedf mentions that " tne towering thorn Seneh
is said to be a sort of Acacia. '' Mr, GK>ve, in
The Dictionary of the Bible, in an article on
" Seneh," says :—
"The mime in Hebrew means a 'thorn/ or thora-boili,
and IB applied elBewbcre only to the momOTuble Ihom oif
Horob; but whether it refen, in tliis instnneo, to the
shape of the rc>ck, or to the growth of Stndi upon it, we
cannot uscertaiu."
John Picepord, M.A.
rf owboumc Rectory, Woodbridge.
Privy Councel Judgment : Liddell tv Wes-
TERTOK (5*^ S. ii. 128.) — The words italicized
in the /orm^r quotation, denying the existence of
the Prayer of Consecration in the aecsond Prayer-
Book of Edward VI., are entirely at variance with
the Him pie fact, as any one may see who wUl refer
to that book. The Episcopal Assessors who allowed
this misstatement to pass were the late Archbishop
Siinmer and the present Archbishop Tait. The
words ita.licized in the sccomi quotation are oa
astounding fabrication, no such words having
occurred in the Judgment of the Court. For tlus
again Archbishop Tait is responsible, as it ocums
in a book edited under his rlirection when BiBhop
of London. The former is the true report of the
** Judgment '* delivered. See a pamphlet entitled
Lord SdhoTfU^s Letter to tha " TimesJ' B. M.
Pickering, 1874. F. S. A.
I believe it is well known that Baytord's is a
true report of the words actually used by the
Judges, though (as need hardly be said) they are
at utter variance with fact, which is as stated in
the other report. And if this be so, there would
bo no authority for altering the words in that one.
Charles S\ S. Warren, M.A.
purhcates in the british musetjm (4^ s.
X, 332, 399, 479 ; 6**^ S. I 494.)~A short time
since I purcba«ed, at a moderate price, Ballard 'a
Lcanuid Ladiet, 0x1, 1762, 4to. On the back of
tlie title-page occurs the old Museum preas-niajk,
** MVSBVM BRlTANNicvM.— Duplicate 1804."
W. WlKTBRB*
Waltliam Abbey.
WooLSTON Well, Wkrt Fklton (5*^ S. i. 449,
515; ii. 17.)— I Buggefit this well may have been
dedicate*! to St. Wulfetan, or Woolstan, the Anglo-
Saxon Bisliop of Worcester at the time of the
Conquest, and who, I believe| was born in one of
the Midland Counties. A. K. K.
Wordsworth axd Hogg (b^^S. i. 143; ii.9.)— -
Hartley C^:)leridgc used U> t<i\BX^ vv ^'ejsA iSycin ,*^^
158
fOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^an.ADa.22,T4.
at Bvdnl Mounts and Wordsworth showed him ull
tbfi liona of the vicinity. On one of their long
walkB Hogg got rather tired, on which Wordsworth
said, " I ff just show you another lake, and then
well go homewards/' To thifi the Shepherd replied,
^^ I dinna want to see onny mair dubL Let 'a Atep
in to the public and hev a wee drap o* whusky, and
then we ^11 hame ! " Wordswort h used to tell the
story, and say that at first he was often ded at
hearing his Ukes called duhi i hut, on reflection, he
could not take nmbrage— the dubs wa» »o chanxc-
teryjtic of the man. The Shepherd contrasted the
small English lakea with the large Scottish ones^
and duhs was the natunvl consequence of the
comparison I
Another anecdote has been recorded which meritg
a place in ** N. & Q." It was duringHogg's stay at
Ryda] that he met with Byron. Byron was an
inmate at the Salutation Hotel, and one day he
encountered Hogg propping the doorway of the
Gmsmere Inn, of which the late Jonathan Boll
(named in Hone) was then the landlord. It is
said that Byron, accosting Hogg, said, " Your
name 'a Hogg, I believe ; my name is Byron. We
ought to be acquainted !" The story goes that the
two poets reached their respective lodgings in a
very queer state. Bid Byron, when he visited the
l&keii of Westmoreland and Cumberland » ever make
the acquaintance of Wordsworth ; and, if he did
90, was the visit aubaequent or prior to the publica-
tion of The ExcuTtion f N,
Farob Isles (5"^ S. L 329, 394, 438.)— For a
recent account of these islands, see T/ie Proceedin^g
of the Eojfal Geo^a^ical Soeieiyj vol. xviL p. 312.
EvERARD Home Coleman,
Brsckaock lUwd, N.
Haxgijco and Resuscitation (5^ S. L 444 ;
iL 12.)^l3 Mr. H, a, Kennedy acquainted with
Southe/B baikd of Ropreehi th& RMcr f It is
a story of resuscitation ^ter hanging and gibbeting,
and ia sai^ to be ** founded on fact.** AvihroM
Gwinndt is an English narrative of the same kEjxd.
Roprecht had a second suspension, and he richly
deserved it. Poor Gwinnett was an innocent man,
and lived long enough after his hanging and
gibbeting to discover the real culprit and return
to hb roadside inn a pardoned man. The storj'
has been dramatized under the title of Ainbrom
Omnmtt ; or, the Munkr at tht Roadside Inn.
I forget the date of Gwinnett^s trial and execution.
James Henry Dixon.
Btron : Wtcrerlet, &c. {b^ 8. i 164, 256 ;
ii* 31.) — Twice lately by your correspondents has
the fine quotation from Wycherley— I weigh the
man, not his title : Ws not the king^a stamp can
make the metal better or heavier "—-been referred
to The Country Wift as ita source. Some time
a^ (P^ 8. xii. 25) I gave the true reference in
full. Let me repeat that it is part of a apeech hj
" Manly " in Tfc» Plain Dcal^, Act i. sa I. ■~* "
name alone of this play ought to he a sofficie
reminder of the place of the quotatioxL There j
nothing at all idtin to it in Th€ Ctmntry Wift,
W. A, C. does not quote correctly. What ]
singer says is as follows : —
*' But in our Saaaz&rro 4ii not to,
He beiDg putt and tried gold ; and anj ttAmp
Of gr*ce, to miLkc him c^rrtni to the world.
The Duke i« pleased to gire hiia, will add bonotir
To the great bestower; for he, though allowed
Companion to hi< maater, *titi pruervtt
Hia majesty in full /lufre.**
W, A, C. in closing his quotation with the word
"honour," in the fourth line, entirely alters the senm
of the passage. I confess that I am also in fauk in
having misqiioted " bestower " as ^'poeseffior," aa
thin perhaps may have misled W. A, U*^ aad catLsed
some confusion. What Massinger reallj^ says is in
effect just what Bums says t —
" The rank la but the guinea's stamp.
The man 'e the gowd for a" tliat"
T. ALacoRATE.
MiMttU&ntaiui*
NOTES ON BOOKS, ico.
The Letters and the Life of Fraficu Bocofi.
eluding all his Occasional Works, namely,
Letters, Speeches;, Tracts, State Papers, Me-
morials, Devices, and all Authentic Wrttinci
not already Printed among his Philosophical,
Literary, or Professional Works. Newly Col-
lected and set forth in Chronological Order,
nith a Commentary, Biographical and His-
torical, hy James Spedding. VoL VIL (Long*
mans & Co.)
HsRE is a noble work nobly ended. Mr. Sped-
dinj^ may any with pride, as the old poet ta^d,
"Exegi monnnientnm.'* If Mr, Spedding went
forth, after writing the last word in this volume,
as Gibbon did after the accompliahment of \m
great undertaking, under a mingled eensatiou of
joy and of regret, — ,joy that the task was done,
regret that such accomplishment had terminated
one of the proudest purposes of his laborious life,^
the editor of Bacon was fully justified in so doing.
The amount of new matter of Bacon's own com-
position in this volume amounts to about forty-one
pages. To this it may be added, that " Elsing's
notes of the debates in the House of Lords ha?e
enabled me," says Mr. Spedding, "to throw some
fresh light upon the personal history of Bac-'n"-
imijeachment ; and the exi>osition of their pii
ceeding as a Court of Justice in i i —
which has not been attempted befoi
to have an important bearing upon tfie aispuutoi**
points in his case, some of which are rtrj
I^MLAse.El.Tl.T
KOTES AND QCERIKS.
159
0
malemL" Mr. Dixon, in liia PerKmal HUtortj of
Lmd Bacon, had onJy the Lords' JoumftlR to go
by, but thcae "tell us nothing of what passed in
committee, except the remilt qa embodied in the
Bubaeqnent action of the Honse." The notes are
▼ciy brief. In the instractions for the grave cir-
comstADCe coming on (when Bacon was expected
to b« preaentX we find the Sergeant directed " to
cany ais mace, and to show it him, but not to
tsriT it before him, as he did when he had the
8eaL'' Tbe propoaal of Sheffield that Bacon should
be declared incapable " hereafter of any office of
judicature or councillor's place** was "well liked
ot" It led to Southampton's queation, "Whether
be whom thiB House thinks unfit to be a constable
ahall come to the Parliament '^ ; and it was agreed
thai " be never come to the ParHament again*"
TbeM and similar passages in the notes bring the
aeme Tiyidly before us, and^ a^ Mr. Stiedding
lanarkiy **we gain from them a tolembly clear
idea of the manner in which this important de-
nberation was transacted." In amnming-up Bacon's
Quality, chamcter, and conduct, Mr, Spedding
tiunks that Bacon himself would have been con-
tent witb the judgment contiiineii in the following
lines of Sir Henry Taylor's hcuic Cmmumis: —
" Yet 11 he p in iad truth, a faulty man.
la tlavitli^ tyrannouji, and turbulent titnea
He drew his lot of life ; and of the times
Some deep and bloody stains have fallen ui>on him.
Bat, be it B&idj he had this honesty,
That undesiroui of » false renown.
Ha aver wiihed to pus for what be wis ;
Ooe Uiat swerved much »nd oft^ but being still
Pelibentely bent upon the right,
Had kept it in tbe main * one that much loved
Whatever in m&n is worthy high respect,
And in bis soul devoutly did aspire
To be it all ; yet felt from time to time
Tbe littleness that clings to what is human,
And suffered from the shame of having felt it."
This judgment may not be acceptable to those
wb(> think Bacon all guilt, or to tho«e who hold him
Ui be entirely innocent, but it probably hitsi the
troth exactly ; and it is not less trtie in sentiment
it is noble in expreasion.
)
mrt or St. Johw of JsausjiLait.— K. Z, Z. wishes
to record that an investiture of knkbts of the above
ordar took pUce in the church of Sonnenbur^, on St.
Jfilin's da>. After marches, processions, feasting, &c.,
the following ceremony was observed:— "Tlie knights
who w«ro to rrceive tbe Accolade came forward now,
kd bj ih*i tT%i marshal, at their bead, the Grand Duke
af Mecktenbur^-Schwerin, to tbe throne of the Herron
Jitiftvr, who a«ked in a clear loud voice--* What is your
imtnV — to which the unanimous answer was returned
—'To have the honour of being received as knights of
juailca Into the Baillnijc of Brandenburg, of the Order
ef Saint John of JeruSaJem.' The Herrcn Meister
(f^rtnea Karl of Prussia) replied— * The reception is
^rafitad ■«> yoQ> if you promise to obey tbe laws of the
cyfte* and to conduct yourselves as true knights/ The
Banan Mdater then stepped in front of the altar steps,
taair lb« nakad sword from the Captain of the Order,
and touched with it, according to ancient custom , the
shoulder of tbe knight kneeling on a footstool before
him, saying, * Better knight than squire.' Then followed
the iuvestituro, Tbe ineignia of the order, the white
enamelled cross, with the gold eagles between the limbs,
and flurmouoted bv a gold crown, suspended from a
black ribbon, and the black silk mantles, with the large
white cross on the left shoulder, were banded by the
psges to the a»aisting commanders, one of whom banded
tbe croM, whose eight points typify the eight bcurtitudes,
to the Prince, who placed it rotind the neck of the
knight. Tbe other commander invented blm witb the
mantle, whose oolour typifies the camel's-h«jr garment
of tbe Baptist, as the white cross does purity of heart.
The Herren Meister then drew together the corda of the
mantle, which symbolise the cord with which our Saviour
was bound for ui. Then followed the vow, which was
read by tbe secretary, and repeated after him by the
knights. After which each gave his baud to tbe Herren
Meister, the Chancellor, and the Commanders, as a tciti-
mony that he would maintain a contest against unbelief^
would coasidar the care and relief of the sick as the
duty of a Knight HospitiJIer, and that as a true knight
he would wage constant war against the enemies of the
Chmxh of Christ, and the disturbed of the peace of God
and man. The Ilerren Meister then pronounced the
words, * I wish you the blesini| of God, health, and pros*
perity '; and tbe * Te Deura' having been sung, the pro-
cession returned to tbe castle, where a State dinner,
given by the Herren Meister, concluded the day/'
"Local Orioik of the 'Retrosfectitk Review.' —
I l&iel^ mndo a note of the followini; item, which E
found in a smaJl volume consisting of a collection of
literary papers, &c., originally nublithed in tbe Afaa-
ektster Bxc^iun^t Herald in lol5 and 1S16, the con-
tributors being a society of local gentlemen. The book
in <|ti6Stion, which is in the library of William Booth,
Esq., of Combrook, is entitled Bihltographianjii, and waa
printed la 1817 by Joseph Aston, Xo. 14, St. Ann Street,
only twenty *four copies being printed. Tbe fly-leaf
contains the following pencil memoranda : — * The Rdro*
sptctive RevUro originated from this work. This society
was instituted by the late Mr, ^V\ Ford, bookseller, and
was held in his establishment in St. Ann^s Square.
All the articles signed M, IK (the final letters of his
name) (tic) were written by him/ * Copies of thii
little volume are now esttremely scarce, and &re likel^
to remain so, ns they are only to be found in the collec-
tions of a few noblemen nm^ gentlemen who g^vc very
ej^travftgant prices for them to Trip hook, Thorpe, kc,
of London. — J. Ford.' The worthy President of the
Chetliam Society, whoso tiame as a contributor to the
Retrotpectivt Etv%€w has been omitted by Lowndes,
could perhaps say aomeUung about the above note.
I observe that Mr. Grosstey makes a commendatory
reference to Bihliographiana in a foot-note in bis essay
on FoUer's Holy SiaU (vol iii., p. 51). I may add, thnt
tbe Free Library copy of the Review contains in writiiuc
the names of many of the contributors, the late W. J.
¥QXt E^q., M.P.for01Jham,bcin§ amongst the number/'
— JoBN fi. Bailet, in *' Local ^otes and QaerieSj'* the
Manchatfr Guardian.
AaacoRiAt Book-plates. — Dm. HowARn (Dartmotith*
Row, Blackheath) writes: — ''I have many duplicates
which I wish to exchange/*
The BAaoavTcT or pAVKt— An anonymous corre-
spondent notifies to us the deaths recently, of Sir
Coventry Payne, Bart This gentleman, of ancient
descent, was one of two claimants to the hereditary title.
The other, Sir Saltasbury GilUas Payne, asserU that his
late rival was debarred by ilkfjvtA'taa^l vn. ^>&ft Xvf»a \vnsv
160
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[S«^ an. Aero. 22, 74,
vrhicU he descended. The P&ynea lire numed by Orderi-
ous Vitiklif. THe name htm gone through the fonxu of
PftgAimflf Fajen, Payu, and Fa^me ; and the old Xomuui
family is weU represented in the rt^spective clftimants in
Engiud M well «a in l^armAudy,
MlSPBnrtS. — Our respected contemporary, the Jievu^
MiMiogtupku/ue UnhtrtdU^ says : " A new romance by
Lady Georgiana Fullerton (and not Chatterton, as the
Athmmtm printed it) ia m the prees." After this eor^
rectton, the Remte announces the title of the novel as
On Hi WloMl!
LA9CAtiTn!E.-'ThG iame Eivn^, In a notice of the third
and fourth volume of the Cortttpondanca dt Lninarttiu,
points out the errors in jp*&mmar which this elegant
irritcr continually committed; und which h]3 editor has
thought fit to leave uncorrectt'd in this edition* Hero
are some sjimpiea: — ^' Jg no t'envcrrai pour ma soldo de
cette aBn6e que 700 fr. {IIL 221); si j &i deux jours d
disposer (III. 308) ; c# Florence . . . eiU m'etonno (III*
354) ; ma femme gouU beaucoup et ut Irii-ijotUte par la
princesse (III. 36<A ; une pcrsonne qui nVst ni Fmi^-ai*
ni ItalUn jIII. 37o) ; chtrts dfieombres (IV. C) ; je vous
prC'vientirtti, si jo U saistIV* 57) ; tii?otr reit^ {IV* 246) ;
j'ai fiiu dt but a rkti (1 v. 837) ; la society tt&rii s%r nous
(IV. 347}j &c. Un ^ammoirieni" adds the Mevue^
'^triplerait cette liste de ^olecismest en y joigoant de
harou barbarismes, comme rewLplat^abU, mt^mjMntt
emphyahU, duxrboit d4 pium, imprhtayalt4" &c.
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rupi^iMUni dots 7wt think vvrth the troubU of nfriHnf;
piainlp,
OoLOitrEitsis. — Amongst the many good works being
elated by Dean b'tauley in WǤtiiiinBter Abbey are the
gradual replacement throu^ho<at the church of the
gravestones— notably, Sir Isaac Newton's— that were
removed at the beginning of this century^ and the re-
catting of inscriptions tl^t have been obliterated by
wear and time. Coursyei'B grave is itois^. marked \ the
muiml tablet close by, howefer, haa perhaps eaoaped the
notice of ottf corpespondont. The inscnpiioiji on "*^-
former is—
Pierre Francois Le Coniayer
Bom at Rouen in Normaiidy
November 17» 1€S1
Oanon of the Abbey of g Genevieve
Author of '* A Iiistortation
In Defence of the Validity of English Ordinatiom **
Died October 17- 1776
Aged 95
D. h. — liatnpflond was originally called Hi_,
the old way of spellin}? Homestead. The prt-sent
which it is souglit to remove, h;iLiei no connexion «
with the reign of Que- 1 " t only dates from
The inoroo&ing neMs h require am onl
church. As, then, the \^\ lin^ is extremely,
without a vestige of antiquity about it^ we can wT
understand the opposition that is now offered io
tuting a really grand church, whose lofty spire "b^ ,
be a landmark, and indeed worthy of the ma^m&oenii
crowning position to be occupied.
E. Truelovb. — Our corrcs|)ondent adds his
to a fact already established, as to the sex of
Chevalier d'Eon, who so long passed for ft woman. Xl
Truelove states that in 1610, toon alter D*Bon'f deadkp
he saw and examined this mysterious ohatteter ; a&d be
asks for information conoemiog any Ufa of this oust
famous adventurer.
TiKTiLLEEiESL— Voltaire himself has sidd that Frenoh*
men were represented for the first time in Freoek
tragedy in hi* oivn iTtiirr,— alluding, of cottrse, to thi
characters of Luslgnan and Nerest&n.
J. G. — We cannot give an opinion on the legality, Of
othorwise, of wills. Of the one now se&t, we cau only mj
that it would delight most lawyers, and dissipate Ibo
estate.
J. n. C— Tlie ballad Thi Farmtr'* Son ond lh§ iWj
Gay is printed iu ChappeU'a well-known volumea, aMl
still sung in country parts.
O. L.-
" Thoughts that breathe and wordf that bum.*'
G^y. I*fvi/r*jM of Poeif,
F. R. S, V ^ '
Mud ford, I? lOTtll
TheFhth
k Lady op the Prf^kkt Cebtcry ^ould have btr
query answered by writijig to Lord Boktby, Him
Montagu's representative.
Q. h. — It i& the ha ha that tsihe sonkeit pari.
fence (as at Delaval Hall and elsewhere) is abote
The term ia common.
A. II. writes:— "*D0velov^"^"< t fi,e Prosi.' — ^!
Oivftslrif JliTold was discoiili
.M. T.— There is no use j
books.
H. A. B.— Forwarded to Mr. Thorns.
yOTwx*
Editorial Communications should be addrawd lo ^ TIm
Editor "--AdvertiBementft and Bnsinots Letten to ^T
Publisher "—at the Office, 20, Wellington 8tr«et, tit
London, W.C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to retu
municationB which, for any reuoD, we do nol j
to this role we can make no exception.
To all cownpunieations ahould be affixed the nutie and
of the sender, not necesianly for pttbUeatiODi I
a guarantee of good faith.
i
to ua reriewfl <
. Ana. 29, 74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
161
W^mX, SATfTRDA r.AVQVST ». 1«7«,
li
Spaniac lUf onos. No. V., '.
Jung*- liKi— li*bel And Uizn
GONTExxa— N* as.
162—
thfi
i. to 4
s —The
liiuf BUiiop— A BilrAcl« la lo,>'
FInl &u(Llili Locomotive ia Kew York, 100 — Fandlel
QUKRira:— llerrinit-Couiitijig— Tliis two Thie¥6» jU CAlvary
-'*'Th« Bird's N«t "— Fly-Le»f luH'riptionJ— " Dramclog/'
"^ »B0 Clera mad De BratMe Faaiilic<^— Abbes«eii of BliftrteA-
' -Tom Qnsd ftt Chruit Church—" Ftoatit, and tdhvi,
I J«ani "— DuUUn Tivam* -^ JUdajue RoUkd — ** Pm»
'•—Vox W*nj»^-^Eoiurta Coin, Itii— Dkkaiui** **B4ttle
o"— "Tooth aod J£«g "— Jetferson Davti— "Ood ble**
^k •*—• • K«aelmChiLUQgljr "— " Eenttej v oua " — Aa Old
SLEFLIES:— Tlie**GftniiAKiiQlc'' l(K»»Tha Do Qnindi, Earli
or Win ton, 170— Saojr&n'i ConiMen And Predeceasom, 171^
Tli« Suu-Flower — Svippo«ed Pricstlj Gni«Uj, 1T2 — The
Tem^vLuT anct HosyiUliert— John f'hTirchill, M.I\ — '^Mf
ch»lM ib« vUU^e iDO did gal " '^' 'nngCoal't Lavf'C—
' Tl*» Hiiu*e4 of StuArl ao^J — " atro«l " ^ The
fj^woeb Wotxi •'Yeiix'-Tl! Stiit<^, ITI-Goa-
fe— Pocxn by T. K, HtrvLV^.-iiii > " ^ • " -Pri%ry
III Judjinent—** Christianity a.* Oli} 4:c.
I Emperor Akxioder 11,— Mafv of : J'ft—
le Batxifti, ITti—Hyrfid's "SiciJi^ <it (_t>iii;ith"—
-MAnntoD Herbert— Eancke llidera— bird Ool-
ITT- '* YfcOge MoO'Uy "— " Piui "— *' Xewlyn "—
• tworf*— '* AU'i over/' &c«— Rohert de Wyclif—
•'W^iBtr l7«-Pr.WAtt»— OoMm CQl-Pox^Mr. Froudc'i
"Hkiory/* 179.
llotii an BaokB, kc
SHAK8PEARE t BACON.
In Basil Montai^iis Works of Lord Bacon^
foL IT,* facing title, is an engraved portrait of hira,
' \ ftge of dixty-five, aa Montagu tells m in an
iiUf notice at the conimenceinent of vol. ii.
that chaotic edition. It is £roin a painting
Van Somer,— /*«!</, I suppose, for I do not
lovr whether his brother Bernard ever came to
lagland. It deem* to be a fine likeneKj^ and tine
|ft8 a work of art, thouf^h, perhaps, a little
His portrait of the firat Earl of Devonshire,
Kworth, is mid to be eijual to Vandyke's.
rjorlr^it does? not appear to nie to be taken
rof sixtV'five, as stated bj Bits LI Hon-
would be more like fifty-two or fifky-
C:in Linv retvder of 'VN. & Q." say where
\v 18 ? Van Somer generally dated
tiLs tx>riraits ; if so, this rather iui-
sn might, be conclusively settled.
r pnssea adds more and more im-
n^ connected with, the life and
icon. The attribution to him
l*laya, a* the rn*ji^mU, or, at any
irce of them, h growing up into
' ' ' Uentiou is drawn to
1 do not lit nil
refined and noble features of a Shakspeare " ; does
he speak of the Chandos portmit, the Stratford
buHt, the fancy thing in the Abbey by Koubiliac»
the mask from the German rag-shi>p, or what I I
have always taken the Junsen bust, at Stratford,
for the only authentic one, and the result of
physiognomical criticism applied to thiit is that it
was modelled from a posthumous cast— that the
nose is Biniply ridiculous in its want of proportion.
It is a hop-o'-my-thumb nose ; a very abortion
and abnormity, phiced as it is in cJoi*e juxta-
position with the frightful and giijantic upi>er lip.
The moustache i^ moi^t artistically treated ; it is
shipped like a mouth, and is phtced where the
mouth ought to be. The mouth below is a small
mouth ; but, whenever I look at this face, I feel
persuaded thjit Malone performed quite un art-
service to the world in daubing it all over with
white. Get any artist to re-colour one of the
masks liir us, and I doubt not but the whole will
become absolutely liideous, so ihigrant is the dis-
proportion. The skull in large and well-shamm
enough to satisfy all requirements. Assuredly,
however, if I were asked whether the Van Somer
portmit or the Jansen bust stood nearer to the
man to whom was due the miraenlouK coinage of
the plays, I should decide for the man of the por-
trait. Has it ever been .stated, surmised, or au^-
Rented how it came about that Jan^en^ one of the
tu-st jirlists of his tiuie, was ever empkyed upon
the uiortmiry bust of the cs-manager of ** the
Globe," who bad settled down, for aome years
pre\'iously, into a Warwickshire farmer? This
appears to me, like all the rest, paasing strange.
As the subject is thus raised, I may be allowed to
record for what it i» worth, no thin <j or something,
m the reader shall please, a kind of conviction
tliat has always thm.st itself upon me whilst read-
ing the plays, that there wjis a very noticeable
duality throughout them ; thiit the plot^ con-
st rue tion, story, and philosophic universality of
knowledge and of mind betokened one type of in-
tellect, whilst the other type belonged to a poet
proper, as phrase-maker to the multitude. Let
othera contradict this, as, of course, they wiU ;
but I shall stand to it till I change my nature, and
with it the convictions that Hpring from it. It
apf>ears to me alwaya a moat prodigious absurdity
in modem criticism to insist, as Schlegel sind all
do, on the constructive faculty which distinguishes
the really great poet from tlie minor poet, the
lyrist, &c. Coleridge b equally absurd ; Km
intuition often saved him from such error, but
not in this. Invention and creation are indeed the
poet's faculties, but not in the ^ense of construct-
ing anything, nor of building up a total out of
consecutive acts, of pre-cahailatiDg reason, nor the
piecing together of all t V , ' * ^ ' ^ M *>
on a subject andbuil* -^
plot OUtj
lady wliat waa the momt of Chrutahtt^ he replied,
'' Miidnm, I did not know that it wanted ii moniL"
The fact is^ it has none, and, still worse, it has no
purpou whatever ; hut it is one of the Diost
uniqae bits of real poetry in the whole worlds for
all that. It thrills a competent refider in every
fibre with its pathos, its weirdness, its dream-
jMJT^er, its refined aerial melody, which wakens up
the hidden things, remote and near^ lying dormant
in the wide and diflTiised province of the soul
itself. It is the sublime gift and felicity of
words that does this. A poetic soul vibrates
lan^age so as to awuken movements in a kin-
dreS aoul that the word*, as words, appear not
cjilculated to reach out to, nor to toudi.
If Scott, who waa no jjoet at all, as I reckon
poetry, could have worked with Coleridge i\& a
narrator and thrcad-fumisher, there would have
been nothing since Shakspeare'« Plap, Goethe
not excepted^ equal to the birth-iKsue of that
marnage act. I fancy this was known in the
bd^ht Elizabethan day when young thought burnt
^ divinely clear, and that Beaumont and Fletcher
tried to accommodate thenu^elves to a then recog-
nized necessity, as Sijakspeare and some other one
had before them actually succeeded in doing.
Bacon, I should think, did not write the Plays ;
Shakspeare, I should tliink, did not conslruct the
Plays, But that the one fiirnished the matter, the
thread* the catholic knowledge, and mucli of the
large, cool, reasonable phiIoKoj>hy to be found in
them ; whilst 81i^kspeare gave the melody ; the
phmse-making was his, the vibratorj'^ words* and
all the passionate things that hang libout and arc
suggested by them. If minute examination can
plausibly introduce Bacon as the male genninator
tit these marvels^ whilst Shaksiieare enwombs them
plastically, then all who can endure uiy view wiil
be prepared to cordially accept the new thcon\
and find a hitherto inexplicable wonder si tuple.
One word more. Burns ciinnot construct, yet is
he a giant poet. Byron cannot construct. Swin-
burne says he is no lyrist ; I say he is nothing
else, and the greatest of them, not, perhaps, alto-
gether in the narrow sens© of perfect song and
perfect ode writing, but in the large sense a
sublime singer to the universal l}Te, which, great-
gifted as he is, Mr. Smnburne himself will never
be. Homer is not constructive. He Utisbes a SfK)
year old tale : the backbone ribs and all set fonus
are given him. Milton constructs nothing, or very
little : the Bible famishes to him his bone frame,
Dante has no plot nor plan, no preached-about
grand construct iveness. He takes a supernatural
walk with Virgil, and inscribes about its path, as
he goes, incidents sublimely felt and softly melo-
dizedj like notes floating forth from the harp of the
golden sun-god. Harper of Harpists, incidents
in the shape of liard beliefs and square-cut mis-
beJiefs, There crosvd into his poem fill the super-
stitious folk-lore fairy dreams of the strange, \
igtiorant, mediaeval, Romano- Crothic, bhie-ciirtai^
Italy he dwelt in and loved so well. The
tualism of all the Church phantoms and doe
dreams, and the concrete devotlnnn! fnncirs r>f
pctpulace, and the whole ph !
book-lore of his time, with 1 1 1
mental sui)en\dded, he invvi?uvc^ in tUiis
sublimest chant of the saddest and loftiest ch
that ever lifted a hymn devout of praine to j
great Witness who looks down in sorrow tm i
vast drama of man's misery below. If By
Milton, Homer, Da ntt%Cijnstruct nothing, bttt<
vibrate in imlaon to the harmony of the sph
and tjo convey to us the baser- born, ns prop
might and vaticinators, some tiiste of M*" ^*'
God as it pealed through their ear
think I Khali not gre.^tly di lu-nt*
sspeare if I despoil him of tli
his plots and his material |
him amid the glorious corop;iny of master
through all time — the men who cntwn :•:•
and burn for ever after with an it
because that in their day their ear wli
and their heart was bold to utter, wi
could, or, being able, dared sum U|'
Canticle of Canticles, C, A. v>
Mayfair.
JOHN BUNYAN.
As our old dreamer is again up " '
haps you will allow me a worti or i
his famous book Much ha« been o.,
the originality of the PibjHuis Prth!
though the author deeku'es''T:^ Jl m^
will persevere with their i
trary, and the inspired tinki i
sole invention of his matchless oiiegory. ^
swelling the cry of detraction, if one of t!
dates for a share of the honour will hen:
ill its favour, it is, I think, Th^ TabUi oj
has been mentioned as probably supply jti.
to Bunyan. The Greek origimd was, of »
sealed book to him, but it became avail
161t>, when John Heoley's translation y^-.
lishcd \ and it wjis upon the sop|
little book might have ffillen m
the late George Dfibr made his 5.I
Bunyan's biographer, ht^wevi
been unaware that the well-knov.
Kidwelly, publisdied in 1670 a ti
and as his works were pnncii);rJl
the people, this was not i
into Bunyan s hands. If in
copy of his £pictdu« and
folding ** piece of sculpture )|
kst, entitleti ''An Embleme, 01
Humane Life," he will, I think,
with the probability that it had cume uni
eye of Bunyan.
5"» a. a. Aco. 29, 7^.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
163
The picture ^liBplays a roc'ky eminence, divided
I niM ; at the base the rising genera-
It nil towarda a ^te presided over by
^ijc^niy ' , who offers licr intoxicuting
^lilet to > a*4 they pjiss through ; while
r oil III. I irln^ a veritable evangelist in
^ ttnce, is ittjl r the crowd to be temperate
^fr Ht-^ii,r},i tji (>lc;v.-ure. Once inside, we find
1, with a second wicket, in the up-
Li, at which stands Genius ngain,
ting im open bi:K>k, towards which only few
jare wending their way, the bulk having
de on their first entrance to the by-
ing to variouK forms of vice. The next
itflBf^li^nt •'hows the same passing away to the
faroad Toaih on the part of the ruuUitude, and the
«un« iptttisity of pilgrims holding on towards the
otxt ascending: wicket ; the nigged obstructions of
tlb« way are l»erp indacing a reirognide movement
unotii:; the faint - henrted, while fewer resolute
- ^ nglj marching' on their
I picture, with the a^aist-
i.,T.i,ii> i..,u.l. is Been surmounting a
My,' and finally attaining the summit
rivt d by True Doctrine, conducted
urn, and there cfowned. The
DA, who reach the goal, are the
of Banyan's Christian heroes, in their
__ garb ; one, indeed, with the porten-
t ** burden upon his back," is defending himself
L the AtLacka of an enemy*
PtlgTiTn^i ProffTc^ was not printed until
7% while BaviR*^ Cche^ appeared in IC70. If
i hiid taken this suggestive book into prison
a m'uiii like his, pondering over the
and it* accompanying text^ might have
been brought to the practicability of re-
and christianizing the old heatlien'ss em-
and, if »o, the masterly way in which the
tl.-A it out and adapted it to hispuqiose
uim in claiming this imperishable
all bb own.^*
Alexander Gardtke,
tUekoey.
SPELLING REF0EM8*— No. V.
now ptt?3ed in renew aome 2,2(h> words
ly, a thirtl of the words in ordinary une.
reforms have been the reduction of ex-
generail rules, and in no instance hnve
' " • e dogmas kid down for
lilrni ;
nmdr
tlmt between
- ^njst be done to
iiated und un-
le were canrie«l
would remain
.>i not be more
lalfout and hibm'.
'% Ncvtiung mu^t be done to make etymology
more intricate and obscure. In every Cftse but
one, we have pleaded for the restonition of wortls
to their etymological ranks. The one exception Lh
the abolition of the suffix -i6Zc, as -able will do oh
well, and the present distinction is n delusion and
a snare.
3. Nothing must 1>e done to make the task of
learning to read more laborious and perplexing*
All the reforms proposed would render the task of
reading, as well as of spelling, easier, by removing
exceptions, the great stumbling-stone of learners.
W e are, no doubt, a learned nation, and have
undertaken to educate the entire population ; our
literature is sec4:>nd to none in the world ; we arc
extremely sensitive about our cla9,«?icjil tiistes, and
no dictionaries make so great a point as ours of
giving the derivation of words : but, with all thi^,
our spelling is atrocious, and, strange to fitiyj is
worst in those very points in which we pride our-
selves the most. We am not open a dictionary at
random, but some anomaly stares us in the face.
Let us try : — " Resistance," from the Latin
rcJtiitcna; then why not '* Resistense *' t " Ossicle,-*
from the Latin ossicnlnm ; then why not "Ossi-
cule " ? ** Mantle,** Saxon mirntd^ German
mantel ; then why in the world should the word be
trdmnwgrifytd into ** Mantle " i " ExERCiSAnLE,'*
Latin cxtrcirt. "Flotaqk," French Jlottagt.
** Floor,'' Ang.-Saxon Jfore. ** Florist," French
fl^uri^tc (flower being the French fleur); then
why not Jloioer and flowrritt f And so on, by
scores Mid hundreds. If any one were now to
attempt to introduce 4 word wrongly derived,
scholars would set their faces against it like a flint ;
yet make we no effort to f»tirge from existing words
the leaven of solecism and barbarism, but rather
stand up in its defence, aa a mother ifor a rickety
child. But now to Hecuba.
Wkit I would bring under notice in this paper
are the suflixos -ant in connexion with -mt, -anrc
in connexion w^ith -enrf, and -anse in connexion
with -tn**\ Let us see if something cannot be
done to simplify this six-fold difficulty.
There are 256 words terminating in the suffix
-ant, and nearly 70fi in -ent ; 219 endmg in -anccy
and 226 in -cticf; 1 in -anst^ and 6 in -etue.
Altogether 1,508 words. The one in -anse is
e/i(rfl?if<:, w^hidi is now generally written with a
c, and ought at once to be brought back again
(French trame).
The six in *€iuc arc ro ' ^ ^«0i dupfriH
(dispenso), upcnsi, (expei i t inmexisus),
prfpm«<r (pne|>endeo, thi^ mjuim , ;mii rccti'mj^ensc
(re — compenso). It will be Hcen at a ghuice tlint
the termination 'tfi»e in all but one of tbcse wordn
k radical, aud cannot be touched ; not so the
r in word^ ending in -encc. This might be changed
to J, and, indeed, *boidd be so* A few examples
will suffice for proof, *' Acquiescence,** why not
ac^iiiwcCTW (acquiescens) ] « "
'Adolescence" vi\x'%
164
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5'-»8.n. AC0.1B.7il
[not adolescttiu (adoiescens) ? " Cadence" fcadens),
[''coalescence" (coaleacens), "decencc'* (decens),
I " effloreflcence " (efflorescens), " innocence " (inno-
loens), " licence'* ^ioens), "precedence ^' (pnvcedt^ns),
liind so on. In other cases, the -ce represents the
' Latin -tin, as rthagn^ence (magnificentia), mnnifi-
-^nce (munificentm), &c, ; but it would be no
outiage to fipeli these words munijicense, magniji'
t€ih$€. If, therefore, the little mountain of six
words cannot move, Mahomet, with 2 2(5, may go
to the mountain^ by which means a very great
perplexity will be got over by the abolition of
-cnc€^ and the invariable termination of the two
groupa in the one Buffix, -aise.
The same may be said of the suffix -ancc. Tlie
one word in -ansc cannot be changed without out-
raging its etymology ; but the 219 in -anc€ might,
and, indeed, ahould, be changed to -amt* Let tis
take a dozen words at random :—
" Appeahanck," Latin ajpparens,
" Baulnce," Latin bilanx^ through the French.
" CouKTENAKCE^^' Latin cmitinai^j through the
French.
"Forbearance," being from our motive verb
forhtjer-an^ is free to take either c or *.
** Governance,*^ Latin gnhemanM, through the
French.
" MAnfTKNANCB,'' L&immamid—tmem, thiough
the French.
" Performance/' Latin ptrformam.
"Remembrance," Latin rememorans, through
the French.
" Eesohance,^* Latin rrjonajM.
" Valance,'*^ being a corruption of the Nonnan
valannt, is fiie to take either -ce or -j»c in the
phiice of -t
" Vigilance,^' Latin vigilant.
And 80 OQ with the rest. The only one word
wkich ha5 any show of right to end in -nnce is tlie
monosyllable " lance " (Latin Iancca\ in German
lanze. Tim may seem at first sight somewhat
startling, but so it ia. The other monosyllables
are **djmce" (Freoch dunMr); *^ glance" (Dutch
glam); "trance" (French transe)^ &c. The re-
duction of the four terminations to two would be
a great boon to young speller??, and would relieve
many of older growth of much perplexity. I
would ruthlessly abolish the two abnormal ter-
luinations -ance and -ciuc^ which at the best have
only French lenve for their naturalization.
In re^iid to the terminations -ant and -ame
f-ance], if they are meant to represent the first
Latin conjun^ation^ every word belooging to one of
the other three conjugtitions should be expelled
from the group. To "the general*' the ter-
mination speaks iin unknown tongue, but to the
scholar every word jHirading the L-onjugational a
with no right to it is a Trojan in Greek armour.
In our first paper we showed a long list of words
ending in -aolc not of the first conjugation ; we
will now do the same with the suffixes -ani and
-ancc : ~
Admiitaneej udmtttahlf^ omittance, _
rcf(iittance^ but ptrmimhh^ omimhW^ ttmi
nmitttni (mitt^re).
Annoyanct (noccre), through the French.
AppaidanU depmdant^ pendant^ dfpendan
also appcndent, dependent ^ pti\da%U dr^
indipendentj indepcndcmt (pend^re). The "^^
form is the older. Some modern lexicog
timidly give the "e" form in a suggestive!
but if derivation is worth a stntw in EngJiairl
ing, the ** a '* form ought to be tabooed.
Asctndantf df^cmdmit (the noun), dtsemdmf
(the adj.), aseendahh lait dcicej\dihltf aitcatdnu-\i
but ascendance, (ascend^re, descend^re). C?un inv
thing justify the vacillation from a to e^ and ft'
and who is to learn spelling when folly like iL ^ ■
tolerated ?
A Mutant, oMutance; resUtant, rtsiHaneM^ im-
iUtance; but rtnatihU^ regidiHlity^ irreMSik^
irrcjdstibility (asaist^re, resist^re).
A ttendmd^ attendance ; intenda nt, ' — ^'^ ' " "
but sMptrmtcnd^nt^ miperintcndencey int
tcnnfy^ and tmdency. Conjugation ia ^^u. ;.,>.. ^
regarded here.
Complaijiant, complainahU (com — plmgllt/i
through the French. As if from complanOr^^^ifi
level."
Cowplauont^ complaisanet ; coTnplianrf, r
pliant; pltasancCf pleasant^ unpleasant (a hyln i
&c. (placere), through the French-
Connivance^ but connivent (connivere,
Confidajit^ confident^ confidence; diffideiU^ dtp-
dcncc (fidfre). The firet is French.
Can tri ranee (conteri*re, pfr/, contrivj), through
the French controuver. There is also the FnM
wonl coniritionf more rMralar.
Cofivqtam'Cf conve^aoiej fonfej^onc^r; pUTtef-
anre (veh«^re).
Cofinisant^ cognisance; ncognisant, rccwpiisana*.
recognisable (cognoscere), through the French.
Coienant (con venire), through the FrencJu
Ihfcndanl^ d^fcndMc, drft^imtrn {hnnvAxXht
French) ; but defensible,
DiHdant^ ditndable; 1 ,
Dorniant, donnAncy^ tiomtar ; with dorvuFf
donnit^yry ! I dormiiive ! ! (dorm ire), most won-
derful confusion !
Mucrtant,^ m%g€rean<t (mis — credere), as if ftnni
mis-crearc (to create amiss),
Nitiianre (nocere), through the French.
Obei$ancc (through the French) ; but ohtdtenif
obeditmcc (obedire).
Poujno :' - V- -i^fh the French) ; bat
pungent, ,
Pit Usiiii . . /c H ^, .„ , . , « .„^c. . ^,^anc€ (iKMse), throupk
the French.
Fnrfmnli pursuance^ pvrmimnt (penequ
through the French.
^m^m
lenequi)^
p
e»S.II.Acc. 29, -Vt]
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165
ttsagc (uiens)^ through the
PmUMni^ pwimuxnee; apj^wUmmiM^ appttr-
UnmUf oho ptrUfumty ptfriinemu, vmpmi*»*^>i >m^
pmiinmct ; app4ttmme» (pertinereX ^ 5 *
14 <tDpari€fia7tcey th« Lat c^tpvienmr,
Jlfp^nksnl, repentante^ imrqmtiant: but peni-
Untj pfnittner., imprniUnt (piniteto). The wrotJg
conju gilt ion we owe to the Freiw^h,
Kettiant, rcxiaucc (through NoruittQ-Fne&cb) ;
bat re^siiJUnt^ TfJuUnc*^ rtsidtntiary (reaidere),
IluUUint, TcrittancA ; but rt^iil»U, rmiaUbiUiy
i^uini, itrjtant (scrtire), thn)iigh the French.
Si '^" - mjiaanci (French), «aJftr*thU; with
WJ tieflC4^ fttjficifnnj (j^utlicere).
-^ -'^^A, tttmntrt^f tmaf^abU (tenure),
thr..
I ., ,..,.
French.
I^aliani (vaJere), tlirough the French.
To these add currnnf (Corinth* " Connlhht^e
OTie '*), and verdant (virunt)^ through the French.
AlU»fe'cther nearly ItXl word* of the wrong con-
j action.
^ow, one of two things is obvious : to be con-
ftist^nt w<^ should either cut the knot altogether,
** have done, and m&ke one univeraid
v((^ regardleaa of conjugation^ or else
*' r back into its con-
[ jtlg'' [ plan would simplify
^P^J*'"^ :'nu as we feel no offence in
™ 1*^* ' <i above* why shoold we start
;, .^.u at the idea of othorv following
exiimple ? The *' let alone '* syBtem is
XnrlHn / r-.ir,.in^ jy, (jHO ^tajT. Thc
'4 lonat j^o* Reform
uie, but lie rjiuat be
hat cannot see the htmdwriting on
t thp present ** unhiBtorical, tmsjBte-
' s unt6achable» but by no means
ntf now curreut in Enj^land."
ALix Midler's. Ohuistone, Kussell
' Irtto Ivord Lytton, the late John
'he Inspectors of Schoois,
: our Universities, iind a
the literary cliLJ«s huve
! reuce u.nd their hope
'w iiriiahe*:! the few jiAjn^m
The subject i^ much too
I'l all I sought was to show
' reform la spelling is po«-
'"'I' ' '^' *Uire or shocking
^^ 1 I Hay I do Uitt
, nor do 1 hope
"', I crave the
, iiriil sliniild }i«»
U$ herve even jw ; I
s. The new ti.. :,
•w trans for til sa Mill oi our .s|^h1K
r has been thuught ix^Hsihle,
LiiUT is most hopeful, I have no
fgitifseid
blin :
(the
system of my own to which I urn wedded, but I
have eyes to see and experience to know, aad^ like
Demosthenes, I say to caviUer*, " Strike^ bat hear
me ! " B. CoBHjijtf Beswisiu
Lataat, Chiobsilir.
BuBDUA. — A short time back^ a Rnscijiii friend,
on a visit to England, promiUgated the somewhat
startling proposition that Buddha was a RnsBiaa.
Knowing the haimlesi^ propensity of Shwimic
etymologists to find their race everywhere, from
CeyloD to WiUiihire, for both of which Slavonic
deriviitions have been discovered, and lymng
heard uU sorts and kinds of men, from Nebuchad-
nezzar to Prince Bismarck, not to mention Prome^
theus and Alexander the Great, claimed to swell
the glory of the Slavonic race, I 'was less alarmed
than might have been expected. He grounded
his theory on the following chain of arguments :~
The Shivs were Skyths (which is probable), ib^
Skyths were Sakie (which is possible) ; Buddha's
early name being Sakj'a-Mana, and he having
been bom id India, in or near which the Siiktt^
niiiv, or may not, have lived aljout that period, h&
waj? a prince of thiit race (which is rather wild) ;
also he found a considerable Slavonic tinge in
Bmldhii's chimicter and doctrine, in which I agnse
with him. I paid little heed to his ur^ments ;
bitt, on ca^uaiiy glsincing into Mr. WLnwood
Beutle'a book, 'Ilit: MarUjnhm of Man, shortly
afterwariis, I saw that Sakya-Muna took the
name of Buddha, or " the A u^JcentJ,-^ I am not
aware in what language it has this meaning, but
snrelj' it is a most niarvelloua coincidence that, io
Hiii^aian and Bohemian certaiuly, and, I believe,
in every f!?lavonic tongue, budit means *^ to wake.'*
As « TON W. DlLKlG,
"God Save thk Kino/'— I thought thnt my
friend Mr. W. Cbappell had nettled the dispute as
to the origin of our National Anthem* But I
have recently, in one of the French illustrated
joumrtl% reuil u French claim to the air, and also
to the words. The version of the latter, par-
ticularly of the stanza where we have '* victoriotin "
and ** glorious," apj)cared to me us the clever
forgery of some wsg. I regret that I have lost the
cutting. If Mr, Chnpjmll has seen the article, I
fihnuld like to have his opinion about it. It wa«
entitled '* French Origin of Words and Tune ufGod
Sfirc the KintfJ'* James Hkxry Dixox.
[Mr* Williatii Chap^ell, F.8.A., ha* kindljr fs?oure«l
*' N. k il" with the fonowinjj comment on ihii natJoiutl
lubjcct,]
The mistake of ^upposiug (io*t Sav< tht^ Kimj t*>
be French cJiU only have originate*! with y>me
render of the Sonvniin d^ la Marqum dc Cruiui,
and mistaking that work for history. Its r»«il
chamcter will be wen by TCt«mi4^\<i ^<i (^wwVrrVMi
lee
QUERIES.
[5» K It, A^. ^S^
Jttneifi for June, 1834, The atoiy of Gi'«u«f LHo*^
aauvt Ic Hoi^ composed by Lully, and sung by tlie
[Kuns of St Cyr to Louis XIV.. is imrc invention.
IFor !i further account us to how Handel is tlit^xe
aid to have brought the National Anthem from
France, and to have palmed it off upon the Eng-
Ilish as his own composition, Ree Ptyjmlnr Mimic of
Wit! Olden Time, ii. 692. UnfortunaUdy for that
itKirt of the story, Handel never entered Fmnce^
his own God Save the King is known as
TsABEL AND ELIZABETH. — When Charles II.
aslied the Royal Society why water weitjhed no
heavier with a fish in it than without^ it is siiid
that a shrewd member of the society presumed to
imiuire whether the fact were so. Since that time,
one >^Titer after another has drawn inferences from
the medifuval custom of identifyinglsabel and Eliza-
beth, but the shrewd member never comes forward
to demtind the proof of any such identiiiaitiun.
Tliougli I do not claim credit for ahixwdnes^, yet
allow me to play the ]Mirt of the memher. I came
to the study of the Rolls, and other inediteval
dociimentH, with the pre-conceived idea that I
nhould tind the fiame person constantly nivuied
both liijibel and Elizabetli. I found no such thing.
I met with out: imtuncc of this confusion ; aiid, in
another passage, I found the same person called
Margaret. I discovered one ca^c of the same
jjcrson being termed Eleanor and Blanche, several
mixtures of Edmund and Edward^ and some dozen
instances of the interchangeable use of Margaret,
Margery, and Mury. But my notion of the ordinury
exchange, as sATionyms^ of Elizjibeth and Isabel
faded away in the presence of facts. I wish, there-
fore, to ask why viTiters keep repeating this asscr-
tion without examination ( If tlierp be instances
which have esniped me, I shall b-e glad to hear of
them ; but if the instances he, as I have met with
them, so few «s to be mere exceptions, proving the
rule, let us acknowledge it at once.
I hope I tihall not be answered by the remiuder
that Isabel ia used for Elizidjeth in 8puin. 1
know it is so, but I am sjieaking not of Sjisanis'h
use, but of English. . The Spaniards use Isiil^el
because they have no Eliztibeth, just m we call
two of our Queens who were Spanish princesses
t'-atherlne, because we ha\ e no CaUdJna, and we
were ignorant at the time that we did possess the
same name in Kathleen.
An entry on the Patent Roll for 8 Henry V.
seems to me to confirm my view :—
*' Uxor Nicltoki Kyriell, defancti, Ch'r, habuit nomen
EtLzabetha;, et noii IsnbeUa?."
Hod the two names been considered abj^olut^ly
identical, would this entry have been written?
HE&MEyTRlTDE.
TnB Devil LiKEXEti to a Busy Bisaor.— In
the "Breefe Notes and Remembraunecr" of Sir
Jolin Harington {Niigtr Antiqua^, €>dition 17711
vol ii. 2'IH) h the following :—
" I Ihya day heard the Kyngc [James I.] di»lTTef lii
fit>eeche totho Commons and Lordes^an I t^^r. l, , . - , ,^^
thereof therein his Majestie calledo t
Bishtjpc, eparyngc neither Inboure nor i
of London tolde mc, he thoughte hia Mnjf^tj.
bttue chosen another name,"
Neither the Bishop of London nor Sir Jo
Harington, V>oth learned men» .seem to have bet*!
aware that gentle King Jamie might have quoteil
old Liitimer's senuon, The Plougft, a^ hia aiithi>
rity for this phrase :—
"Who i« the most diligcnte^t brRb<wi and P«tjit« lal
all Englimd J I will tell you: U uVhe Devitl. Itts ii T
moii diligent pnuvcher- He ia never oat of hisdioc
he is nerer from his cure, he keepeth resjdence ftt «ll
tim^s."
And again at the conclusion of the *ermon:—
" The devill is diligent at hiv plough, be It &0 HO*
preaohiag Prelate.''
H. A. KEyxs&r,
Waterloo bodge, Heading*
A Miracle jx 1656.— -The Paris eorrespoti
of the Mtrt'unu/i Politicus^ November C, ItVKiil
sends the following information, which may notUl
without in te real to readers of Port-Roj'al hl^torv:
** I sent you word of n new Mir&cle wroucbt in tli? *
Monastery of Port-Royall in the City : the •
Fostula in the Eye by the Touch of a 7/
(they »fty) was taken out of the Crowri - ^
This Miracle growcth famone, lo that >
identifuU at the MouMtery, therein i
Touch of this Thorn without great difficulty .'
S.
''Taking a Sioht.'*— The mode of taking a I
sight, well known to school-boys, by means ofj
applying the thumb to the tip of the nose undl
extendin<jf the fingers, is, I find, by no means i1
modem invention. We find it mentioned iaj
Rabelais, book ii. c. 19, where Panurge cnconn*j
ters the Englishman, Thaumart.
** Pariurtrc ^^udJcnly lifted up in the a»r his rijfht h*]
and put the thunih thereof into the nostril of tli.> .ut
side, holdinj; liis four fiDg^«;rs straight nut,
orderly ia a pandlelline to the point of his n^
the left eye wholly, and nmkiitg the other WinJt_
profound depression of tlie eyebrows and eyelidft* "
lifted he up bi» left baiidl with InrJ wruL^*
BtretohinfT forth of hia four fitu
thumb, which he held in a tine di \4
the situation of his right hAtid, v
cubit and n half between them,
form he abased toward the urouiHi , nl tin
other hand. Ijnatly, he held thecu iu the uadat^ at i
ing at the Englishman '» nofc."
E. L. BLCKttljrsOFF*
The First English Locomotivi: is Ni
York.—
** Among ilie articles deposited in the corner fton^a
the New York New Coal and Iron Exd '
kid a few we«k« ago, was a docunien
following curic>u« scrap of hi«tory :— • Th <
that ran on n roilroaa on this Cantincnt ^tu uu^(^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
167
(JFOfn fingUnd hy this company ; wa« ordered in England
bj H^ntio Alien* aaslatant engineer ,* waa shipped from
Mrefpool April 3rd» 1829, on hoard the packet ship
John Jiy ; ixrtTed in Xevr York 17th of May, 1821* ,-
Tu serit up Ihe river to Rondoat,&nd arrived the 4th of
JaJy, 1529; from thence was tran^orted bj canal » Htid
irnred iit HoQetdale Juij "Xin}. 1 S'29 ; vad on the Sth of
liupfit nmde the trial trip. ThiEi locomotive %vaa bailt
ii SUmrtridfe, Enghmd, nnd the boiler ia now in u«e at
Ov^Otulftle, rexinfiylv&itiA/— TA« Ewjinetr''
K. P. D. E.
Parallel Passage. — Prof. Tyndall finiahed
[ hia adtljreHH to the nieTDl)eP5 of tlie British Asso-
I ciatioD Jit Belfast in theae words ; —
[ must (juit % theme too prent for me to hxndle, hut
irhicli will be h&ndlcd by (he loftiest mtmU tif^eB after
\ you &nd I» like strei^ks of morning cloudy shall have
I melted into the inlinite azure of the past/*
HuynuMin, the j^ipsy [Qkuntin Uunmrdj^ when
I ahi^Qt to l»c hanged, ia asked by Quentin wliat he
I fxpccts as to tho future, Hayraddin answers :^
Fo b« resolved into ibo elements. 3fy hope» truit,
pxfjeelAtion U, that the myaterious fmitie of humRnity
\ melt into the general m&m of nuture, to Le recom-
dcd in the other forina with which the daily supplici
I which daily di*npp*''*''^ »"*f return under different
the watery I 1 ' ' ' atreauis and ahowere;
hy parti to i fnothtr earth, the airy
I to wanton ip > ,'e, and those of fire to
FfWTrBly the blaae of Aldiburstn and hia brethren* In thia
I faita have 1 lived, and I will die in it/'
Hiivniddin woiild have distinguished himself
[ at Belfast, but he was before hii* time.
E DuoBUS.
€Lutriti.
I We must request coirG§pondcnt« ile siring information
n f»Tiii!v fuuttors of only pri^Tvto interest^ to affix their
■An refues to their querief, in order that the
nsf* . jiddressed to them directs]
fli^nnixo-CouxTtyo, — I shall be glad if any
he thrown upon the following statement
^nner in which herring* are counted on
lur I of Devon.
A . Bucks, Bideford, Ilfracombe, and
M f m, herriD^s are sold by the " maze "
I or * f>12 tiiih. This nuniber is arrived nt
^l] i;; way : tho hemn;i[x ore counted by
i three psh, cnllcd a "cast^'; and
1<> " castB '^ have been eountetl, 12u
bare been n ckoned, ctiual to a ** long hun-
T» far-r,^ "' ,ists" are counted, und the
(III of theiie 3<* more
nn calls out " cast,"
nng the number
fUf I roii four limes,
ot Ulii ti b, licing^ four times
lip the ''luazo'* or ** mea^ "
torn is a very old one,
m, or of the meaning
ni ni:»-'-* «>r me!v«s' »eenis to Ije
*Ca«t" probably me^ms the sanie as
"throw"— as many fish, that is, aa can be con-
veniently thrown or handed at once. The nuinber
153, of course, recalls the number of fish in the
miniciilous draught of fishes ; but this suggestion
when offered is a novelty t^ the fishermeo of
Cloveny and Bucks; and, tis the 153 in countinj^
the herrings is not arrived at by one reckoning,
but by first counting as far as the " long hundred "
of 120; then lidding li) more '^ca^ts,*' that k to
nay 30 fii*h : and, histly, by throwing in the odd
three fish,— the coincidence of the nuniber with
thitt of the infraculons dmught of fishes imiyy
probably, be only accidental, curioTis n« it is* At
Yarmouth herring'i are sold by the " la»t '* of
1(MWX», und at Berwick by the ".cran." What di.
these words mean ? Frederick Pollock.
The Two TniEVES at Calvary*— Some few
yetirs iigo I noted down, in lecture at OxfonJ, tliat
the mimes of the two thieves cnicified with Chnnt
were Zorithoii and Camaiha. Did I take down
the names correctly ! What are the authoritte)»
for the tradition ? Perhaps something of the
history, as well as of the names, of these two men
is known* G. F. B.
*' Ttib Bird^s Nest."— Where can I find this
poem, which concludes with the*e words : *' It.*i
little beak made s^ '' ? G. WoriiKaspooN*
Fly-Leap Inscriptions.— In a copy of Hyl-
ton's Scala P^r/e#^f lo^aj*, AVynkyn deWorde, 1194,
sold on Tuesday, 18th August, by Messrs. Sotheby,
were some curious M8. note^ tmd pmyei-i, appa-
rently MTitten by a former owner, whose name wah
thus given on one page :— -** This Boke belongeth
to Dame Jhone Sewell, Syster in Syon, Pfe^^sed
the yere off oure Sahiation a thousand and .syxc
hundreth/' The ihiie i-^ nerhaps a mistake for
15(><), as the book also belonged to a monk of
Sheen^ one Grenehelgh, in HDO. On the l>f»ck of
the title-page is a device of the Indy : it connists
of a kind of monogram of the letters J and S,
with *' -ohanna -ewell " alongside, and surrounded
with pious invocations. Alxtvc this inscription
are two sets of verses. The first U Tieaded : —
"In despuyng of y* (lend and ghostly eamye tay y* bimn,
O tortuose Serpens qui mille per meandros fraudcsfjue/'
with five or six lines in atldition. A pious prayer
addressed to Satan is certainly a curiosity. After
this come<a—
'* Againat vayne dremes or faatosies lay y" use,
Pxul o p.cul vaganta portotita 9omnionim
Prooul eato p.uicaci prcttigiator hasta. Distcde, to."
Ih any MUch charm known f The last wordK
seem to jxiint to a continuation. F. K.
" Bnt^cLoo." — Will liny of your 8c«utish cor-
re^ondents kindly say in what collection thi*
hymn tune is to be found j and from what pub*
168
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6»* a IL XuQ, 20, 71
lUKer it can be procured, or whether it is to be bid
»cp«JTitely ? It« moflic runs thfoogh A Jkxu^hUr
of mtJi. T. W. C,
Db Clere and Pb Braosb FAHiUte.— In
Vincent's Misceltutiea CotL of Ana^ B. i, fo. 71,
maybe found the following marriJiges tabiiliitjwi:—
Irnilimuft* de Brevofi&, co^om&tu&^Mftiildis T ' Conutis de
GaiDf obiit Apud B timbre, lii StiMcx, I CUre, *] i • Buronun,
et Bspoltua in Fnoratos do Selc, I Buck in j. .: iiiti acit ut
kc
pAtet In Imj., ^c*
I
ditts de Brewocm ante-
' iUonizn dc Wiiten-
D, in com< Su«acx, unde
Ut Shirley.
JoLiuincs dc Brewoaa^ de^tt^IargaretiL. Dna.
Brembre, KiiAtip, et de C&ntreselif,
Gower. Vido Eecb. a"* &g.
5Bd. 11. No. 32.
Rich«rdu« de Brefwoia«=. , . , ^t« «t
Baro duperRtea 1277t I nnft birFiKl
6 Ed. L KoetH d<?
1 Clert
William de &rewo8tt.=I«abella, filia Gilbcrti de Clurej
eo* Olooc. neptb Gilberti Ma-
rescftlli, Comb. Fetnb.
Jl<>w, I think the Above will puzzle lUl genen- |
who hikse OS yet maidled with tlie De |
fttmily, and no wonder either ; but my
ient object is to find out who Roger de Clere,
ove mentioned^ was the son of. 1). C* E.
5, The Croacetit, Bedford.
OF Shaptesburt. — "Maria AmiUi
J«luuini», 7 Dec,^ 1 Ric. I.," m mimed
I (Rot. Pat., 21 Hen. VI.^ Pars Prima) a.s one of
I the Abhesiseii of Shaftesbury. No such Princess
^ t on record iis daughter of the Empress Maude, or
»ter of Queen Kit onore of Aquitaine. She may
hATe )»eeto an iUegilimate daughter of Geoffrey
FlaiitageDet. Is it known who i^he wait 7
Hermentrude.
Tom Q0AB at CHRiar Church*— Vast openir
tions are now going on here, wbieh one of your
nmny Oxford correspondents might be willing to
cz^ain. The broad gravel-Wiilk is being lowered
|«nd JBade much narrower ; and thuH have been
Jo«ed the bases of the buttresses of the cloister
[fihat surrounded, or wa« intended to surround* tlie
inadrangle. I am sure thut some authoritative
ant of the present proceeflrngs, and also of the
{tfeiiilt they are intended to aim at, would interest
very many besides Y,
Mr. BisRAELi's ExpREssioK OF " Flouts, akd
QtmES, AND JEERS.'' — Bv Way of Variety, and ad a
slight episode in the jjarlinmentary discussion of
the Public Worship Eegolntion Bill, some rather
caustic temaiks were passed by the Premier upon
0e?tain eanprwftions uttered in another place, by
bialtidiafiDeCFetary, LoH Salisbury, Mr. Disraeli's
worda, as given in the papers, were that his
coHaagae wa« a man given to ** iiout^, and gibes,
and jeers^" Another reading met with in a
Loudon journal gave the last word as ** sneers ^ ;
bat pfwiblj the former reading is (he more oor-
• This William wiui the one who wiu it&rrcd to death
in WmdAor Custle by King John, with hu mother Maud,
1210, and I cannot think he wiiu baiT«d at StU Priory,
ihoiQgh lie may hove been so.
rect. It is a matter of interest to inqur
**N* & i),' whether the phraae in *{ ■
original or a quotation, it hajs n rl a i
thing of the ring of a iiuotation, lii: it ; i i
terse ; perhaps, then, you will aLlo% n ' ** i
as a question to your readers, whether • m* , ,
ever met with this expression before. f
Chtarchdawn.
DuBLix Taverns. — Can aar of yo»i
respondents let me know if there arr
published that give u description of t
taverns and their owners from the y*
1779? Wm. Jackso* in...
Jhmdramj go. Down.
Madame Rolaxd, — Was a spurious ^ T^i
professing to l)e her Autobiogrjipby, publisher i I
am inclined to believe so, having seen in an Am » r
can newspaper, published early in this ornuN
references to poaaages in what were
Memoirs, too abominable for any h^i
written. i yt-v.i
Phikdelphia.
" PiNA Silver."— I wish to know til
of this term. It is applied to some ^i
bullion captured from the Spanish in U'
it also stated that water was " soked •
pitft of the Pina Silver." What 6i>e^ - i lui
mean] H. W. H.
'*Vox DiAN.Y..*' — Pn>f. Petit, in his leant
work on Mary Stuart, has gathered togvtber H»m«'
interesting contemporary te»timonie« to the t
of the Queen of Soots. One of these is
Dianw ! God bless tluit sweet faiy*,* <^
Where in Knox*ft writing** do tbc«e ^^
and do they not refer to the custom of juoiutiu^ tin
moon ] U. F,
HammfmiHrith^
RoMAK Coin. — Any information reiiiifilitiii tki-*
coin will much oVjlige. On**?
is repre^nted the head of a m.^
hodced noee and projecting ckin. The ktvk id
I
II.AM.39,'71.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
169
curlouslv formed. The words aximxts
, the it bein^a' h^i in a de^p
M ; hea comes another cracky and
nt o o very much oblit^Tuted, followed by
e distinct and in good preseniation. The
tor I take to be an R or ii, I nit c;mnot Ije
p$itive on thiit print The other letters are
Pgnizrible. being woni down almost to the
ft.Thfi reverse represeotu i\ woman holdinj^
Dg in her right hand — what it h I can't
he only ihing I can liken it to is a huge
umbrella \ Something like a sword is
ed by Uer left bund* The lett^n are all
* "'' Hiis aide, but I think 1 van yet die-
Tliere are suiall putts of other
.... ,„iug, but not enough to identif)' them.
Eg, IN HIS " Battlk of Life/* in a de-
of, the chan'jes which hivve gr«iduBJly
ce oil one of our English battle-fields,
iise of the two following reuiurkoble psL^-
no t1Ui|(o girl would drew her hair or boiom
I fweeUtt flower from tkit field of deAth> and
uiy • long year had come and gone, thf berries
M«rtf won* l,t£i4ved to Uavc too dttp a Uctin o^i (he
e were deep green paicbes in the ^n*o\nQg corn
th it people looked at awfullj; year aft*?r jear
: [ %ii : 1, and it wsj knoivn. that undemeath
•tA, heaps of men and hones lay buriedp
, enriching the earth ; for many a year
r«. H' 'Wn there were cnlled hnitlc-sheaTeft, and
^ ftod no one ever knew a battle-sheaf to be
the iMi load at a harvest hoaie. ''
here imy legends respecting the iso-called
l^eaf, or the " too deep ^tain '' from the
owing on the battle-ground 1 I am in-
thio£ that this is not a mere picture of
% imaginatioo.
Jamjes FsARaoyy Juk.
TH AND Eoo.*^ — This name is often npnlied
is nlsi'i known as ** Britannia metal." Why
ied**T€K>lUandEgg'»i K.
OK Davis,— Is the ex-President of
ction 7 He in cbiimed tm a relative
tDw'iBei in CardiganahLre, being de-
^llicyf fitJiii a I^avis who emignited
lity, aad settled in Virginia, in the
imy. T. 0. LL
iLR&a THK MARK."— What Is the origin
Sbo- of the 8hak8[»earian phrase. "God
U
iufer
es* what the
iituf of Vcnia\
fa purenlhetic ftlKjh)gy for some proCcme
or vulgar word/* The other commentators give no
light on the process by which the words came to
be BO used. Iota.
Oban, N.B.
"Kexrlm CHiLLrsoLT," voL iL 375: —
** Fortunate art thou, tny reader, if thou chanee to
liave heard the popular song of Mf QiM/a ning by the
one bdy wlm alone can ting it with expresfion worthy
the verse of the paeteai and iba mualc of the compositton,
by tbc aiatcr of the eiquiute tougitrasa"
Wanted, the nauies of the ladies referred to in
the above paragraph, and the name of the mib-
lisber of the music. E, T.
*' Rendbz-voub/* — About what period did this
word become of ordinary use in England, so a«, in
fact, to become an English word I It appears to
have been a very favourite expression of Oliver
Cromwell's. In one of bis earliest letter*, dated
3rd May, 1643, and addressed to ** The Honourable
the Committee at Lincoln," I find it use<l no leas
than f«mr tirncj?, and in the later pait of bis corre-
a^>ondence it fre^juently occurs.
K. Fassikgham*
An Old Claymore. — I have an old claymore
which ia inscribed along the blade "'J. J. Runkel.
Sohlingen." Can any of your readers kindly give
me the date when it was made ? Scot.
THE "CABMA.GNOLE."
(5t»» S. ii. a)
In reference to Ma. Bouchikb's rjuery respecting
the music of the Carttiagnoli\ which is a well-known
air in France, but which I am not able to prick down,
it would be perhaps int€reating for some of the
readers of ** N. k Q," to have this famouiJ dong,
not with its *' topical *' and changing form, but m
its original andy we may say, dehnitive words. It
is as follows : —
t.
" Quo faut-il au E6pablicain ? flu)
Da plomb, da coour et puis du p^in : (huj
Du plamb pour Tetrang^,
Du cceur pour sc vcnger,
Et du pftin pour sea fri'res.
Vive Ic mn (hii)
Et du puin pour ae« frcrcs.
ViYe le ion
Bu canon !
t^aiivonf Ja Cannagnolt t
Vive le *on (hit)
I>Hnians la Carmagnole f
Vifo le son _
I>u canon \
Qu
Vaut-U ]
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[5^5, ILAITO.29,74
Que reclame an Rcpablicftlnl (hir)
La mort des traitres et des coquina, (bU)
La piocho dant les cachota^
La torchc daikH le^? chateaux,
Et la paix aux cbaumiLTea;
Vivo le aoti (bif)
£t I*J|>A>ix aux chaumicr«a«
Vive le son
Du canon ?
DttBfonH Itt Carmiignole ! &c
Que recherche iin R^puhlicainT (hU)
Le traTall, la ecience ot Ic Tin : (hi*)
Le travail pour manger,
La fcioncc pour 8*<u'clairer,
Et le vin nlein ton rerrc t
Vive le aon (hx»)
Et le vin plein sou verre !
Vive le son
Du canon ?
Dansona la Cnnnagnole f kc
Quels font les Dieux Rdpnbljcaini 1 (hit)
La Xaturo ot le Genre H urns in ! (U*)
Le ciilte a la Patria !
L« Christ A la voirie •
Et le Saint- Pi>ro au dlikble !
Vive k son (hU)
Et le Saint-Pere an diable !
Vive le aon
I>a canon !
Danflona la Carmagnole I kc
Que desire un R^«pnbUcam ) (hi*)
C'est de nionrir sana calotm^ ihi*)
Un fili pour le pletirer.
Le peupk pour I'cluver,
Le resect ^ sa Mere !
ViTfl le son (bit)
Le respect h. aa Mdrc f
Vive Ic son
Du canon !
Dansona la Caimagnole ! &c.
ViTc la Commnne dc Paris J (hit)
Vivent nos setitioiis et nos districtB J (hi:)
PJui de riches sur nous,
]>e pauvrca li gcnoux !
Aux faln(iaut4 la upuerre I
Vive Ic son (hit)
Aux faini>anta la guerre •
Vive te son
Du caAon !
Dansons 1a Carmaj^ole \
Vive Ic aon (hit)
Dansofia la Carn^agnole f
ViYc le aon
I>u canon ! **
Thus was ii^in the CarmagnoU sijug by the
people of Pans during the Revolution of the j
18th MarcL, 187l» ^
Kjt Academy.
Hkkrj Gau6€ER0>'.
woulil
> lie I
THE DE QUmCIS, EARLS OP WIJTTOK
(4*»» S. X. xi. xii. fomm ; b^ S. L 98. im>
To continue my references fri^ui old clmrtcrs tnl
wliicb the family of Be Quinci nppenrs,
draw attention to a chnrter in the ?■ > -^
lar crocks which has been hitely pn
by Lord Herries, under the enit-- ,
Fntscr. Hern we find n charter bv William iBe]
Lion to William Giffard, of Thibu (TealiDgX
afterwards the property of the Maxwells, in which
tht^ names of the following witneis?^es are ottAched ;
*' Reginaldo Roesenai epiacopo, Comite r>uncano I
justiciariOf Itoherto de Qmnci, Philippo de VRlnnil*
ciimeraho^ Willclmo Cumin, Jolmnne de
Wiilelmo de Ilaiaj, Haiiu1|>ho Je Soulia, ^
Bcrkclny, RoRero dc Mortcim'r, PhKir^^^
Wiiltero Miu*dac, Rogtro de Kerlicl, H
$ir!;ill0p apud Monros j^Montrose) prirao ui
There h no date, but Mr. Fraser places it between I
ll!)5"ll!}9.
There can be no doubt thnt Soiher waa ?on I
of Robert, us I find, in the volume entitled!
The Chiefs of f'olqvhoun and ihrir CourUr^l
(l86Ji), a confinuMtion by Pope Clctneni ^
(il88) of ft grjmt, *' ex dono Hoberti de QuiJ
Seer filii ejuj*," to Henry, abbot, and the C^o
of Newbot tie, of the Orange of Prestoun.
That charter of Alexander IL (15.1?^ ^n^
the barony of Kylosbern to Ivan t^ "
which I quoted (4^ S. v. ^62) for
name of Roger de Quinci at«a<be>i ti-
diately after the name of William de B-
Chancellor ; but he does not atll hiuiseli
Wintonie.^ It will beobi*erved that there aretw^|
hdies mentioned in these charters a^ wives of tho
Be Quinciii of which no notice has been taken ial
the discussion, namely, Eva, wife of Il<ii.nl nrulT
Eleanor, second wife of Roger I? it kf
what families they were connected? It
if Eva had l>een previou>*ly mrtrried to W tiiter dt
Berkeley liefore she became thr wife of Robert d<l
t^bdncy and had a 6on Jolin, but by whift'
husband does not appear. All this* ANOLO-f
umy be able to clear up, We have thus th
thi^ee generations— Robert, Seher, and Rogc
extending from about A.D. 1143 i l|
when it i^eems to be agreed that I'
is, from the middle of the reign of J *.i \ u * M
1153) to the middle of (he reign of Alexander III
(1249-12B5). I would venture to
pedigree of those De Quincis uientior
above charters thus, along with the C*^^
tuny be csonMidei^d eertain : —
6»an.AuAS9,7*.l
NOTES AND QUERIES.
in
Sether, cai«ef=Mar^ret, iiater of
1207, died i FitJE-Parnell, Earl
1219. ( of Leicester,
John.
lit, Hel«i=Boircr. 122^3, 1232^2Dd, Elenaor.
died 11>64.
The De ^uinci^ here mentioned in these
rti«h cluirtcrs include only the three later
iona, bin ;;ive no jissbtnnce to denr up the
Itics of the enrlier irenerntionf* goiini tmck
from A.», 1143. I would rwk An«lo-Scot[:s
^ whether a witno^n in that charter of De Brus
B granting the church of Anntmd, &c.^ to tlie
^L Abbey of Gysehiirgln circa 1141, to which he
^B^M drawn our titttniion, and which is found in
^Hvn A^Apendix lo llie <.'lmrtuhiry of Gl[L^r;:oWf may
oot give ftonie aswikt.ince. There I find, after the
name of Adnni fir Sf vton, the foUowinj^ name : —
" Willdmu- \ 1 di, filii 8eyeri." Here we
luive three . dtiling from tthont 1141,
which, if we n;uy judge frOTn the Ii*ter generation
given abovf^^ would carry the l>irth of this Seyer
otor! it A^T). U}2i. This would suit very
we: -L*yer, who is^ said to htive come over
wli rVie Conqueror in 1<KJ6, as he would
th« : :ry-six yeiir^ of at?e. It would be
thi« ^--.»»i »>i.o would give for ^* the soul of him-
•vlf und his ?on Seyer '* the donation to Dunmow.
*rh<* i.^rf.wl l.,.vi-->v.r jit which he lived will
scv n- the husbund of Maud St.
Li. n de St. Lit/ the first, of
wb S. xl 44H) spealw, who wiia
frr , son of Riclmrd Fitz Gia-
ml, ^licondiy, to Heyer de Qninci. It
;o me that it must be the second Seyer,
ttho uhj^ ujiirried to Maud St, Liz, daughter of
DuTTid I. 'a fjueen.
Ir
1 liiUjit ii|K)iuyj>:e for *■
lftf>fi of wbtch T bnvp
wife of Roger de Quincy,
er she waa fall sister to
..I jaEin de B:\liol, Lord of Eem.*ird
m we are indebted for theoKI bridj^^e
" ' if Miirgaret, danj^hter of Davtd^
fT» be not her motlier, who was
.it' tivf'^ ^' " ' btieu ih(^ eldest
ter hu d^i became, 1 fiup-
1i» r ' ju< Scotiay' in
T>, of Galloway.
' y, cin ho be the
A of Wiiiifim the Lion^ whose
I ten in the ** Liber de Mclros " i
nn'^ in a qnes^-
knowledj^e ; but
on, as they are
rn, and I shall
cimrin;: Up the obscure
'l\\ 0, T, R.UI AOK,
Bt;KYA»'8 Compeers and pRatrKCESsoiis (5**
S. ii. 104.) — Certain Rtatements in thi:? paner
seem to me so contrary to fact, and to involve
clijtr^'es so grave ag.*4iDst two of the moat eminent
of the early Fathers of the Christinn Church, th.it
I cannot let them pasH without a word of honest
remonj^trance, Irenfi'us and TertuUian are flatly
charged with wilful discrepancy of statement to
suit their own ends. Of the fonuer it is said, —
"Irena?UH^ against heresies, at one time quotes
Htrmas with approbation, when he supjiorts his
views, and on another occimon condemns him and
his works, when cgntrarj" to him." We should
have been very grateful for chapter and verse.
Irenieus, it U quite true, *' quotes Hirjttas with
approbation,** and the quotation will be found in
Contra Ihtrata, Lib. IV. c.aj>. X3C,,— " Bene ergo
prominctiit scriptura, qu.a^ dicit : Primo omnium
cralc^ quonimn unus Mt Dent, fjui omnia conslituUj
d constimmavii ; d /veil t.i- co qnod UGfi entfj ut
f^ifiifd omnia: ovuiinm. cajMt(\ d 'jui h nemine
eapUUiit.'* On which the ffK>t-note, — "Hennas
Fcmtonm intellif^ct, ex cujus lib. ii. mand. 1, verba
hie cituta desumpta sunt." I tind no other men-
tion of this Hermas ; but in Lib. XL cap. xxxiii.
3. 2, he seems to make allusion to Hermejt Tris-
magvitusj as an advocate of the doctrine of the
trans mignttion of souls.
** TertuUian/' we are informed, *' on prayer, as-
^imes the Scriptural dij^mity uf the book called
TTic Shepherd of Hcruinjt; yet in another, De
Fiidicitia^ when the text is agatust him, be treats
the same work i\» impure, apocryphal, and scouted
by all the churches." The pu-^sac^e^ I pre^time,
referred t-o a-s ansunung ^* the Scriptural digaity "
of thLs book is this {Dt Orationt^ xii.) : —
*^ Item quod aft^it^ata omtiorte ns«idenr!i nio9 etC
qtttbusdam^ non ]>er«picto ratioitetn, nisi ei Hermits ilt^,
cujm fcnpturafere Pastor inscrilitur, traniacta orationo
noil frapcr lectam jf«tedisBet, termn nJiad quid focueet,
id quoque ad obserr&tionom rindicaremus.^*
Whnt assumption is there here of ** Scriptural
dignity," or dij^nity of any kind ? Hermes only is
quoted as tea<'hing a reverentinl attitude in prayer,
not a word is aald or a hint dropped a^ to the
nature of his writin^^*. Thi« we have fully and in
no measured term^ in Lk Fndinthi^ c.ip. x,| but,
to u)y mind, without justly subjecting nim to fto
serious a diar^^e a,^ wilful contrfidictton. His
attitude in prayer TerUdlian comiucnds, but cei^
tain of his dotrtrineH he so uttirly reproltates a« to
give it as \\U upinion that his book had been justly
condonmcd s\» apocrjqjhnl and fal«c* by every
Council of the Church. I see no "variation of
opinion here."
Easeluus does not go «o far ns to «iy that " it
wa» used by the earliest Churehes as a boak of
elementarj* instruction/' but only that ^rij »om€ it
wa«« judged a very tjece***ary book^ espe<'iaUy for
teaching the first elem^tiW <ti1 C\\t\»\Aa?&\\iv ^^
172
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[S»S.IT.ltTc.t5;Tt
was, no doubt, held in Ligb esteem^ and often
quoted A3 authority by ancient writera. It hns
always j^eemed to me to bear, in niuny parts of it,
a very atriking likeness to The Piljf rim's Progress.
Edmund Tew, M,A.
Thk S UN-flow jer (5*»» S, L 165, 256, 417 ; ii,
17.)^ — The Jerusalem artichoke is the Helmnthus
fuherosu$i a p^?rermiid plant of the same family as
the common simtlowcr, Avhich is an annwtl. In
favouruble seiwons like the present the above
artichoke bears liowers almost equal to those of
the guntlower^the Hdianthvs aunuus; but, in
general, the tJowers of the tubcrosvs are of an in-
ferior size, iind lack the ele^nce and bri^^ht colour
of the garden sunflower. The name *' Jerufialem/'
in union with artk-hoke is evidently a corruption
of the Italiun word ginuok^ which means " turn-
win." Thanks to ftlu* Blenicinsopp for tbii* in-
formation, the tnith of which is to me self-evident.
A MURITHIAN.
If A MuRiTHiAy had turned to the iwges of
old Crerard's Herbal^ he would have found that
aaoe observer taking the same view of the ** popular
fallacy '' m Chtitdert Bf.dh ; and my observation
is entirely in unison with that of the quaint herbal-
ist as a matter of fact. He says:--
" The llower of the Sunae is colled m Latino F'iojt
Solt'i^ inking that name from tboie that have reported it
to turae with the Sunnc, the whicU I could never ob-
wrre, although I have endeavoured to find oat the truth
of it ; but I rather think it waj f o called because it doth
retemble the mdiant benmefl of the Sunne, whereupon
iome hare called it Corona Soliij and Sol Indidntts, the
Indian Sunflower/*
No doubt the notion of some particular flower
turning to and with the sun ** is a very ancient
one," and Ovid says of his suntlower (transformed
from the nymph Clytia, who vainly loveii AiwUo) —
" Still the lov'd object the fond leaTea pursue.
Still moYo their root the moving «itu to view/'
The ** fond leaves " are what liotaoiHtii would call
the petals of the flower ; but* though Ovid may be
correct as to the plant he had in view, it wa« cer-
tainly not the modern Peruvian sunflower (Hdian*
thus anntiUis), which was unknown to the ancient
world, Ovid's idea, however, was too good to be
lost sight of, and, therefore, modern poeta, who
are seldom botanists, finding a flaming stintlower
in gardens, which, with its golden rays, i^, tis Lou-
don says in his EnnjchjMrdia of FlnnU^ a ** com-
plete idetd representative of the sun/' iippropriated
the simile of Ovid to the Peruvian plant without
caring to verify the foct ; though when planted iu
a favourable jjositton, as most flowers revel iu the
bhy&e of day, navu of the staring flowers of the
Helianthus would, doubtlew, Ikoe the solar beams.
Pr, Darwin, iu his Loir* of the rianfii, describes
the sunflower as watching the course of the i»un
rather than turning round with it : —
" With xealoQB rtep he climbi the upland lawYi,
And bows in homtj^e to the riiing dawn;
Imbibefl vith eafcle oje the golden rav^
And wfttchea, as it moves, the orb of oav/*
The simile« of poets arc ofttr
they are not to be reive* 1 on a.^
That sunflowers in gardens may Lt
sun may be true, but to say that .<
Cowley expresses it, " follow i ^
he turns," is incorrect. Pr-
wjia a good botanist, has atatvu m
four flowers on the Barae stem poiiir
canlinal points ; and, as I can texi..,,
means unoommon in a ^roup of suiii
perceive their staring dial-like coui
rodiant and golden as the petals are, poiniiiig Uf
every quarter of the compL«s»
Edwik Lkkb, F.I*,8,
Green Hill Summit, Worcester
StrPPOSED PRIKSTLV CaCKLTY (5* S, H 1 27 J
— Middle TEMPLA.Rwill find the story n II u. 1.^1
by Blackstone in vol. viii, p. 2^6 iqo,.
Acts and Monurnents, edited by the :
Townshend, M.A. (Seeley, Burnside ^
London, 1849.) The authorities there quo^
Dicey's Hiaiory of Qunrnsey, p, 48, and Ha
Survey of Guernsey and Jtrsey, The gist (
matter was as follows : —
In May, 1556, Katherine Cawchea and Utf ti
daughters, Guillemtne Guilbert and Penjtin
Massey, were trieil in Guernsey for theft and <
honesty, and acquitted t but the -
as to character which ass^isted in
acquittal proved also that they wt i
to the commands of the Roman t_
They were consequently taken intocu ^ ,
time, and kept in prison. The Bailitf, Lieut
and Jurats placed the matter in the Imuds
Dean and C unites, and the accused weit
examined, declared by the clergy to l>c ha
The Bailiff and Jumts ordered an examh
which aceordLngly took place, that of each i
being mode separately. On the 4th of iJulr '
Dean and Clergy delivered to a full Court of tl^
Btiiliff and ten Jurats their act and sentenei
namely, that the accused were heretics and ahou
be sentenced to b« burnt. The three wotoen '
then sent for to the Court, where they profw
themselves willing to conform to f I
n:tnces, but were condemned n
They then appealed, but un ••
Crown. At the time of c\i
were set up. At the n» id die ;
the elder daughter on the n
I he left. They were first t>trn _,
broke before they were dead, and thev ir»>pp
into the tlame^J, Perotioe, who Wii« dieu in
advanced ntate of pregnancy, fell on her hide ai|
burst. The infant felt into the Ere, and oQ
\\\ Houi$e, took it out and laid it on the
y^
f*lLILlim.a>,7*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
173
»
I
[TJM child wii* tftltoD to the Provost (PrMt)^ and
to the BjiililT, who ordered it to 1>p carried
tiiinin and cusi into the lire, where it waa
urn mother, ,fi:randiiiotber, lind iiunt.
I Qce of thi* pro<:eediiig, Katherine's
:vi;trthew, appealed to Lbo (JSueen in 1562,
the Bean wna dkspoH^cssed ol" his livings and
whereupou the Bailiff, J unit a, Deun,
ititioned for pardon, and recei%'«?d it*
A, DE L. Bammond,
The account which Blatkstone rjiiotes may be
found in Foxe's AiU and Moniiiit4^HU. edition
ldGd<, vol. viii, part i. p, 226. It is headed —
" A Tragical. Lamentable, and Pitiful History, full of
ih* mott cniel nnd Tyrannical murder done by the pre-
tenMri CtttKalie* upnri thre« wunieu and ati Infant ; to
wit the mother, her two dftu^hters. and the ohUd. in the
!«)« of Oti^rniey, fop ChrisfB true ReUgton, July 18, the
jmf of our Lord, 15f>6."
TV- -»'"-^^ U lamentable enon^'b, but it seems to
Oie rary to the nature of things that th<5
imci': _ - be tale which give« to it such exceed-
ii^ hoiTor can have happened in the ordinary
cotsrie of nature. I concUule^ therefore, either that
th4> ruiin who first divulged the at^ry lied, or that
a miracle was wrought for the purpose of giving to
the penecuiora a chance for additional cruelty.
K. R D. R
Tlie best thin$r which your oorrespoodent can do
b to resid the r*tory in Fore's Acis aud MimuincnU,
.er« and voudiers appended for the
ibters. No human being ever wrote
nt (xaiid hAve written a work of that siie, derived
chicflr from oral evidence, without some mistakes ;
bttt the more I use his works— «nd I have done so
pretty larjt^ely^the more thoroughly I am con-
d of the perfect honesty and general tnist-
liness of the old raartyrologist. It h the
to sneer at Foxe as an authority, but I am
aoff^r to see that «neer in the pages of '' N. & Q."
Hbrmentrudk.
Turn Tmrnrt^xm a»i> HosriTALtuRs (5** S. ii.
IKK) — The distinction in dre^s between these two
ooient was thai the former wore a white robe with
croiMj,
and the hitter a black robe with a
The Templars origiDally had no
' - but, wnen their order received
n of the Council of Troyes, in
'^r•^^ adopted. The red croaa
^ IIL in 1I4C. The Hew-
: oTHTftnization, selected for
;ii ii: il .[ i^^lio with a white cross
; ii Ireast : and when they
I d du Puy, in 1 1 1 8, as a
.'oially enjoined that —
! ^li^Jl I -jir npoQ their
■ rd. r tli:u tbcy wiay re-
DL»rr (o LK-iir in ir>f.Mr iicaiiv tlie oro«i of J^tui Chriit
I adociiad with the eight virtoM which accocnpaiky it/*
& ird
wliite
dblmcti-
IIS^ a ^.
«aa abided
rob
Alexander IV., in a Bull published at Anagni^
in 12r>9, makes a distinction net ween the Knights
of the Hospital an<t the inferior classes, by ordering
thiit they shall wear black miintles, but in battle
and campaign '^ surcoats and other military decora-
tions of a red colour, on which there aball be a
cross of white colour sewn on in acoordance with
that on your standard." The servants of the order,
who were permitted to marry, wore a demi-ccosB
of three branches. J. CstARLES Cox.
U axel wood, B«lp«r.
The H "s— the older order— wore a black
habit V. ute cross of eight points on tlie
breast. BuL alter the suooessful defence of Khodes
ogninst the SamceiiB, in 131 L the Grand Master
adopted in :i ' : ' ' ' '' ' r letters
F. E. R.T.,fi UfMiiL
Those of tht- uiun ^iuk-m I'^tjnu*^, r'l iiKUU-CTOSBe^
and who were allowed to marrv, wore a goldttli
croas of ikrce branches, those of the knights, chap-
laliia, and servants, having four. Their true
badge, boweverf was the white cross of eight
points, as the other could not be worn without a
special order from the Grand Mast-er.
The Templars wore u white habit, to which Pope
Eugenius III. added a red cross on the breast.
Their *" banner —the Btausrant — waK of black and
white, inacribetiwith the motto, JVo« nobis^ Dfimint,
uon fwbi4, 6td nomini /tw) da jhrianu'' The a^ai
of the order was two men seateil on one horse.
Edmcnd Tew, M.A.
This paragraph reminds me of a question I have
never been able to answer. These knights are
always! called priests ; but when and how were
theyordainett t Was it before their knighthood,
or after I Was it, as a matter of course, by the
bishop in whose diocese they were, or had they to
seek their orders from any particular bishop ? And
on receiving knighthood, did they go through all
the minor orders at once, or were these given while
they were squires I No doubt St. Bernard's liuUs
of the Tcfiipk would answer me ; but I have no
means of referring to his works.
Charltm? F. S. Warrkn, M.A.
John OHUKCinLL, M.P. for Nkwtown, 1879
(5^»» S. iL 110.)— If Sir Bernard Burke (who has
lately come off rather badly in ** N. & Q.") may be
trusted, *' in 1679 Marlborough attended the Duke
of York into Flanders, and the following year into
iScothind." C. F. S. Warrex, M.A,
** My chaise thb viLiMas i»y did o ai^c '* (5**
S. ii, no) was written by Samuel Roberts of
Sheffield, a manufacturer, and u m.'in of grwt
activity and benevolence. It was entitled Ttt^
iJrj>h/nt4, and was sent to Jamc* ^lontgomery,
Sheffield, for insertion in the SJuiffidd IrLt, This
was the commencement oC th« }fii^SL ^Tc«^^j2wk^
1T4
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*aiLAco.»/74.
which afterwunU exiftt^^d between these two good
men. The lines appeared In the Iris in November,
1804^ and Mont^ottierj*, in a note to the ^mter,
spettkB of ** the ntfertinjjf deii;^ht with which he
had frequently read theiu*' ; see HolIand'M Life of
Mont^OTitery, roL ii., p. 55» The ballaji jipp4?;trA
in mtiijy coliections, and is stated to be anon vinous.
1. J.
"Kraa Coal's Levee" (b^ S. ii- 110.)— Ihuve
thU, on the title " By John Scafe, Esq,/' 12'\ pp. 3^,
Alnwick, Grahura, i8l8» with a Poeticid Address,
1 pfVjie and '* Note. The i^oitmtitic reader will
perceive that this jca tl^nprit hoa reference only to
the geologiad feuturei* and order of stnitification of
England and Wales." Of this only twenty- Hve
copies were printetl lor private circulation. The
4t.h edition, lti'\ D^nd., 1^20, with the addition of
Conybeare and Buckland's enlargements, thelirst
to the text, and the hvst to the notes, extends to
pp. 119. Ktnff Coal was followed, in 1820, by—
" Court News : or, the Peers of K. C. a.nd the Errant b i
or, II Survej of Briti&b btratft, with Explaimtury Notci.
Anon."
A- Q,
TiTE Houses of 8tfart and SuTHEULAxn (:j***
B, ii. 85.) — There can be no doubt whatever that
Mn. KtLGOiTR is mistaken in his assertion that
" the House of Sutherbmd ought t« have succeeded
to the throne of Scotland, according to the driH
principles of le^al representation, on the death of
King David Bruce in 1371, and not the House of
Stuart."
The succession to the crown was expressly
limited, by acts of Parliament, to the isano of the
Princess Marjory, eldest dnu^'hter of King Robert L,
failintf his ovm male iAsue, or that of his ouly son
David ; .so that it is doubtful whether even u
dau;j:hter of the latter could have succeeded to the
Scottish thn>ne. King David II., througli personal
dislike to his lej^d heir-iipparent, Hubert Stewart,
and being hopelessly childless hiinaelf, did attempt
to alter tlie succea«ion in favour of his own sister's
son, John, eldest son of William, Earl of Suther-
land, by the Princess* Margaret de Bruce ; but the
consent of Parliament was never given to this, and
the young omn died in 13B1, at Lincoln, while a
hostage there for the ptiyment of his uncle's ransom
Mto England, for relonjie frtira captivity thero be-
ween 134fi and 1357, Even in Llflli another
futile attempt was m.ide by David IL, an un-
worthy son of the gallant Robert L, to make
Lionel, Buke of Chijence, secoml son of Kinj^
Edward IIL, his sucLt»R»(ir, a propjsition indig-
nantly rejected by the nation and Parliament of
Scotland. 'A. 8* A.
liichtnonU* *
**StreeL'* pt^ S. ii. im.)—Stnd is to me a
quite familiar word, although the dictionaries do
not give it, " She went stieelittg ulotig down the
street." meaning trailing nlong with Hfr<?rtJ!^ti<*n^ |
but still in a leisurely fashion, an i
kiml of zigzag motion. It i« .nppan ]
of the word stroll. The Swiss jfrj o>
about, is pven by Wedgwood, accompaDicd by* 1
quotation from Bfvth's iltfshandryj 1052, in which 1
the wonl to droyU about occurn. Sfnuhf, a* longi
and lean, is given by Halliwell as a Suffolk word.
a A. Warb.
Mnyfftir.
Br. F. H. Strsitnunn, in his Biiira{f$ tu
WitTtttbuche dtr Englischcn Sprachc^ Krefeld, 1$CB3
notices the following use of gtnrl (not CenikJ
slmUn^ radiiirc) by Thackeniy : *': '^' -
train thut ftfrethd after her like the i
Vaaitfj Foir^ L '2U, ^lany modern, i..^ ..i.d '
vinciaiiams are entered in this very useful Heitra/jr^'^
F. J. Y. "
An instance of unnotice*.! derivation from iLaliftit |
seems to me to occur in the F ^ "
In Antonelli's Dieiionarij (]
for oneof itsme^ininj^, **meditiuniLitii[in im*
A man star-gaziwj, aa he walked, might wrll H\
feaid to atroll S. T. P.
The Frencu Word '* Yecx " (5"» S. ii. ini.Wl
Dr. Chance says that ycux in in one i
most singular word he is acquainted with, i
as it does not contain a single letter of the woi\
(iculuff, fi-oin which h(* belic-ves it to be deriv
There are many words in our too;:;ue of wh
same may be sfdd. Jonrual is fourth in (
from Dies: dies, diurnus^ giomo (Itol.),
joumaL OCTlt.
Riaely. B*ds.
The American ^^tk-vv^ r.tu g^ n «§ ^— Tn iI.aI
origin of nimics cf -^ n by Cor.
be added the popui .which! *]
Triibner'a JAitrary iUcordy No. i7, Augnat
1867 :—
"Mttiiie is popularly kaown jis Tim Lumltror Pi*
Trr4 tStntr; New Hampshire rs T.*<f ^rftni^f
Vermoat nn The Grtai Afo ^'1
aft Tht liny StaU ; Rbode I
ace tie lit «js Tht Nutmm "r .' \
OS Thi Emptrr or Ej-<-'
KttfStofte ^ate ; heh'
.Stat^ ; Vlrg'mia u- 7 - .
Sfntfx ; South <_'nr:.!ir!;i -a^ !'■.■■ /
CrtroliniiRa Tht nfJ A"rfA ■':■ 7
sifipi aa The Batfoa StaU ; J
Ten^«f^fl€t; iv» The Hit/ Bm
Bigrdfyiltg a curv "^ '
Th> /: n ii* rV '
Ark I*fwn as J
CivliJ;..j...,: ^^ . ,... L...,_,. .LdU ; Tetiks a^. .... i,^.,
It will be ohscm'ed that only twenty-four of I
States are included in the preseoit list.
6»8. tl. Aoa.20,74.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
175
ftome other coi-respondent can suppler the populi
aawps r/f the remaimng States. E. A. P,
iGosrATaic (5**» 8. u. >^7.)— Your correspondent
M be rety welcome to any information in my
;..., \.,,, T „„> nrrj^ t<» «ay thut I can throw
no! „jx. There does not Appear,
»i>t^ - ...,. L.,. ,^t extendi*, any connexion of
Oo9patric with the Earls of Huntingdon or
ChC!»t<?r. HEnStENTRlTDE.
Poem bt T. K. Hkii%*ky (5««> S* ii. 89.)— If
An OK, will turn to the collected edition of Thontus
Kibble Hervey's Poemt^ nublislicd ut Bitston, U.S.,
in 1S66, Ticknor &^ Fields, he will fiml, iit p. 76,
the poem he ia seokin;?. It is entitled " The Quiet
L&Bd/' and consists of eijrht stinzas altogether.
William E. A. Axoii*
SaHdwich Islands (5«^ S, ii. IKk)— Tlie Prin-
C0M Victariii KaAnianou-Koahoumanou (K:tnmmaLi-
Kiuihuuianu), of Hawai, or the Sundwieh Isles, wj«
bom on November 1, 1838, and died in ISVAl ishc
^ ma iiiter of two former kings of those ishinds :
iler Liholiho KajruJiamtha IV, (born Feb-
raiLtj iK ISMy succeeded, an ** adopted son," to King
Knm€h4im4ha III., on December 15, 1854, and died
in November, 1863), and Lot Kartuhaineha V. (born
Deceiober 11. 1834:», suoceeded bus brother on the
' "^ 'or, 1863^ and died December 1 1,
- were children of the Governor
■ neoftheduu^'hterRofKinjLj
L monai'ch of the^ie iMlanda ;
.,, — ^... i ,..,^c^a wtks, during the reign of
^brother. Kameluiroeha IV,, Prime Minister, or
DlKna ninJ* A* S. A.
lar
r ' 1 NCIL JCDUMEKT : LiDDELL t". Wks-
TKi . iL 128, 157.)— I beheve Utrum will
kfin^i \ur usiis to be as follows- The judgment of
the Priry Council, iia delivered in IS57, asserted
ijpt, "- *' t-'cond Prayer Book of Edward VL,
Wmi* '"T consecration of the elements was
BBt; .., .;, a^'b in the present Prayer Book it is
TtmU>T&L" Unfortunittely this statement of fact,
ring in a solemn judgment of the iinal Court
al in ecclesiastical causes, was false ; and
irho objected to the Court took care to c;lI1
iioD to it It wrw jLirobably for this reason
iin the coHei'tion of Privy Council judgments
Tail, Mr, Brodrick, and
joneotis statement U cor-
I tiuili -ubHtiiut*:*<l, that "material
y introduc*'d in the prayer of uon-
I thank F. S. A, and Mr. WAiiRKiir for their
kind antl lucid ^oUitions; of my difliculty. I am
to understjind that; the former (Sumner and Tait)
wna a judicial misstatement of fact, and that the
latter (Tait and others) m\A a privily sub-stitated
after-thuught. Two queries present themselvea:
1, Wa,s not a fixed table or idtJir removed on the
strength of the former i 2, Was it rentored on
the cr>nfe^aion of the latter? I write this in no
polemical spirit, bat piu-ely in the interests of
honesty and trutk Utrum.
" OuRISTlAyiTY AS Old AB CREATION^ &C. (5***
S. ii. 149.) — This is perhaps the best-known work of
the best'- known of the Deif«tical writens of the early
nart of last centurj^^Matthew Tindid. There is a
mil account of it in the Biographic Britannko,
and I should think in most other dictionaries.
Lyttklton.
TuK Bmi»ebor Alexander II. (5'*» 8. i. 464 ;
ii. 3€, 55, 72, 96-)— t) wing to ray nbdenoe, I have
only just seen Mr. Dilke's reply. Will you
allow me to put the following questions to him ?
(1.) When doe-s he imagine that the title Tzar
was ftrst applied to the Russian sovereign ?
(2.) Will he be so good as to mention any rtcent
Russian scholar of eminence who has denied the
word to be Slavonic 1
(3.) Docs he wbh to assert that the Polish for
Tzar is ihar ? If so, he must be sent again to hif*
Lindr. There ia no such word in Polish \ if there
were, it would be pronounced Otar. The true
form is Car (pronounced T^tir),
Mu, Dilke, who no doubt is acquainted with
the modern Russian language, thinks that either
in the hurry of writing, or from a typographical
error, my note has the two forms Uar and ixar.
Surely he knows that the corresponding Russian
letter may very well be expressed in either way.
W. R. jMorfill.
Oxford-
Mauv op BuTTKn>fERE (5**" S. ii. 47, 114.)—
Tiiere is a short accf^unt of her in A Companion
to tht hakts of Ciimhfjland^ IFtJitmorehnd, and
Lanof^ihire, by Edward Baines, Jun. (3^1 edit.,
London, 18^1). Froui this we learn that her name
was Maiy Robinson, that she was the irlaughter of
the innkeeiier at Buttermere, and that she was
seen in 1792 by Cu]>t. Bud worth, who, in his
Hamhh^ described her as—
*' An eminently beautiful yet simple and artless |drl of
fifteeOf nrhote manner and app«iarance, «o unexpected in
such a spot, hfld channed liiui. This panegyric drew
mnny traTellers to Butte nn ere, and directed alt eve* on
I ttifai peasant Flattery enough Vfos adJre«sed
'orriit her simplicity ; but Bhe prewrvcd htr
■ :ii(^ and tm^UFpeeted. At leugth, iu ttia
n as deceived into niarriaife by an outlawed
name of Huttield, wlia had for pome time
A^'rV' ' I '*'^"f^'' ti^nircd in this f*art of the eoontry under the
A. C, I uaine of the Honourable C^loucV R.«^, ^% VWl ^Xvt
IfB
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[F'S.II, Ai?o,2J>,7i.
ftddreis mud Ul«tit to tupport his Msuined character,
but. heiag ditoorervd, b« wm ftpprehend«d, tried at
Oftni^te on » etiar^ of forgerf, and banged within a
ytuT after bia murtttge. Tbe jo^^ag widow ucted in the
most becoming manner nndtr her misfortunes, &nd after
eome years married agnln. This match was happier
than the former; the and herhuiilmnd for a coneldemble
period kept the inn which had been her father's, and
uved in much comfort. AVben I inquired about her of
the present Landlady of this inn, I was told that she had
quitted Buttcrmerei and now lived iu a village near
Bassenthwaite Water; it was added that she htul seven
children, and was in comfortable cireurattaneei.** —
Balnea's Companiant pp. 179-180.
F. A. Edwards.
Through the kindness of my friend Frederick
Reed, Esq,, of Hassnees^ Butt^rmere, I am enabled
to give your correspondent Fitz Reginald the
information he deaties respecting Mjuy of Butter-
mere.
Her real name was Mary BobLnson, and nhe
died of cancer about thirty years ago. She nmiried
again, a man named KicbRrd Harrison, xind had
two sons and three daughters. None of her family
are now at Buttermere. One of the dimghters is
dead, but both the sons are still living. Little is
known about one of them at Buttermere, aa he
" went down into the shires when he was young,"
and never visits his native county. The otber son
lives at Thiatlebottorn, BoUoo Gate, in Cumber-
land, and is still proprittor of the Flfih Inn at
Buttermere, He rents a good farm of Lord Lecon-
field.
Mr, Keed adds the foUowiog particulnrs : —
*' Mary of Buttermere was not the htautiif she is repre-
iVDted to hare been. She carded herselif well, but got
lo be coarse featured. Wordsworth und he Quincey are
"both Tery romantic on the subject of her marriage, kc,
Wordsworth, speaking of the child she had by Matfield,
Bays,—
' Beside the mountain chapel ileep« in earth
Her new bom infant.'
l?ow there is not, and never has been, a buriAbgrotind
at Buttermere, and it would pu««Ie folk to moke ifrares
in the rook on which the present cliap«L stands, and the
late chapel stood, though Wordsworth repeats —
*Thy nameless babe that sleeps
Bflflide the mountain chapeL undisturbed.*
Be Quinoey aayt, ' I know not whether the marriage
was, or cfluld hare been, ceTebrated in the little mountain
chapel of Buttermere- If it were, I pentuiide myself
that the most hardened ritlaiQ must have felt a momen-
, tary pani; on rtolating the altar of such a chapel, so
loncbingly does it express,* &:c. Now, marrtnges were
BOt celebmted in Buttermere chapel until alx>ut nine
'years ajro, when I procnred n licence from the Bishop.
Mary of Buttermere was married iu the church of Lort<in,
and I believe by the then clergymaa of Buttermere,
whoM name was Nichobon/'
I have ventured to add the above remarks of my
informant, in the belief that they will be interesting
not only to your correspondent, but l<l«o to many
of the readers of '' K «S; Q." C, B, Hicb.
Thk Scrname Barnes (4"» S. xii. 496 ; 5*^ S.
i, 56, 97,) — Tewabs cannot suppose for a moment
that I ^* gravely assert " what he says ; and, in
truth, I did not expect him to ** rush into print "
of a violent type on m small a provocatiotL Th«
asEertion looks less *' ivstounding " in MS. thao J
print, and particularly in italics. It would \iav
been fairer to have simply put theqn v '
the usual marks. But I have no <
form Tbwahs that sis no Barnes oi ci
of which I wrote was a knight (as erer^
like Tewaju? must know)» the T>hrase> ** fArtV i
were h(uk(d off in tru*i ftunal ftishlon" is,
course, a mere rhetorical tiourisfa, which Tew^
not justified in tJourishing in my face an
done. As to the second part, ** aW riw/ 1
of their e^xigtence mui enuof from Uu mrrM j
of the heraldt," I say that if such had been
case by " judicial sentence," it would have i
them very well right. But whoever heard of i
a easel I aiu certain that Tewars ney«
therefore I think Tbwars** question, as be i
is not at all pertinent^ but veiy imp^srtinen
have now to explain that in a oonvertation wit
the late lamented Mr. King, a herrtl- *
perience at the College of Anns,
through aU their records in vain .-.
relating to ^ Barnes,^' he entirely concurred in mjj
suggestion that everything might have been Uttm
from the books on their attainder of high trawov.
But the aaaertion, as I put it, is too tNiKitrve far ^
Tewars. I did not think, as I hnn
how "grave" "'assertions** may ^t
most insignificant matieiB} so I mui»l :>
But if Tewars will only consider for n
that a too oonspicuous and nobori'
they had been for generations in 8er:i ,
county like Middlesex, coidd scarcely liuTc ls
the eyes of Heralds' College^ like scores of faniili
of even very large estates in remoter count'
will probably admit of the existence of a ^
f) resumption that at one Visitati<in * *V
east, the Barneses genealogy was il
If Tewars wnll nho consider for ai^
he wiU also probably admit that the V' ri i - ? ^ if |
hemlds (whether they felt it or not; wuuiii
w^th indignation at such treason, and, to hbd4
their affection to the new order of things, tuil
public hangmen for the occasion, and bum •?
scnvp of paper I'clating to the famUy,
I have now to put a question !<'
whether he can show that the genc;.
who conspired along with the Barnes aic mt
the regjiBters of the Hendds / And if so, ^
each of tho^e n ' ' '
notorious for t
And if so, whi'iiici- iJi- 1-1 Muiv ui;iL 11
pedigrees remain untouched had not *'
court/' to U3e u vulgarism, or that the j.^i
pedigrees be may find did not escape, at tho tin
the notice of the heralds ?
In cooclusion, I will observe that wb^n
«^an.Ao<i.M.7<.)
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177
were ftHAintM in blood to the extent they were,
there U nothing t«o ** sjstounding'' in the ** as-
tounding statement," nor so extmordinfiry in the
** cxtraoniinary proceedings," that should htive
ItaliAnized the pen of Tbwars so completely in
the heated eloquence with which he brings forward
this very grave qneetlon* T. H.
Btk'j1i*8 "SiisoB OF Corinth" (S*** S, I 4«J6 r
ii, m)— W. A, a writes, ** The first quotation '^
(▼iz.^ " In the year since Jeans died for men ") ** is
'\ horn the Siege of CoriTttJi:' Htul he snid that
lines were not in the edition of IHlfi he
fcve been right, but they most cert*iinly
oera to thnt jioem in the fine edition
I und in all sabsequent ones I have seen
by Murray. In cheap and incomplete
^by other publisheni they are often omitted ;
ow not. W. A. C. adds, ** Lines which
I in imitjition of CoIeridgeVi Cltrisiabd"
? will find in the foot-note of the edition I have
before me, vit., IS.^7, that Byron " had never read
(^rutuhd at the time when he wrote these lined."
William Whistos.
Mm. Srrrbs (6*>»S. ii, 141.)— In his interesting
of Mrs* Serre.^ worfci, Mr. Tboms (p. 142,
, 6) quotes the OtntkmanJt Magazine in refcr-
^ Ui her ftssnmption of the name of WiJmot.
Tki BioQTafthital Didhnanj of Liring AnihorSj
'916' ^ xnl.nm.^ it as follows : " It is proper to ob-
e her separation from her husbaml,
nence of the ill-trejitment which she
hM ♦xjivrifyneed, she ha^ conmionlj colled herself
p^^iimot.'* 1 hope Mr. TnoM8 will be Buccessfid
la iirocttiing those works he hain not.
Olpiiar Hahst,
Marmimbt Herbert (5"> S. i. 140, 4(M»j ii. 37.)
— H'i^*v'-r (lnl>iiU]< tiiNV h:\vp been iSIr, Dismeli^a
f^eate the character of
ii ^ I : , It of Vfnetifi was cer-
intended to represent that poet, and not
Brrr>n. In Book ii. c. 4, of Vcndiat Marmion'a
pBT* mnce is thus dpscribed : —
'' ' rTi&fice vfta of iinjKuUr lovelineu &nd
wwcr. , . , On each side of the cle&rnnd open brow
now Ii Jul et<n (o the i^boulder^ the cluBterini; locks of
^ildcB b*ir : while the (^jes larg« And jet deep beftmed
wHh • ifiiriluil ener^.'*
Tljt< tvirTv^rMrriil ultli the descriptions of Hhellcj
hf ) Mcdwin, Trel;iwn*»y, and
flib* if ani'lv ill any respect to
Ix^r i rri hair, and was
the novel, many of the
■ nre recorded ; and epcak-
ithor says, ** thry were
tried." Now, every
I'M wiis the populiirity of
Hki iheix first appeai^ance ;
while the masterpieces of Shelley were neglected
by the mass of readers, and derided by the critics.
Byron was not a ** violent republican," nor was
he ** tirst an atheist,'* afterwards *' a Pbit^nist," nor
was he ** fond of quoting Greek." These were the
chttnu'teristica of bhelley.
If Mr. Fowke has read that splendid poem^
Laan and Cythna^ or The EttoU of Jilam, as it wa*
ttfkerwimls ill named, and will compart? it with the
following description of Herbert's poem in the
la»t- mentioned chapter of Vtmiia.^ he will discoTer
an analogy between them not to be mistaken : —
" Herbert celebrated that fond world of hij imagina-
tion, wliich he wished to teach men to lo^e. In ituixae
glittering >Nith the mott refined imagvfl, and re«oiuuit
with the moflt lubtle Bymphonj* he c&Ued into creation
that societr of imDiacal&te parity and unbounded enjoy-
ment which be believed was the natural iaberiKance of
UDAbackled man. /a thi htro hi pietuftd a phH69opk«r,
iftmmf und ffijttd aa ktmattf: iu the hermn*, kit uUa of a
ptrftct woman The public read the hf-tfiry ftf an
ideal world, and of creiiture$> of exquisite 1 ' I in
iangUBge that alike dawled tlieir fancy, *« .d
their ear. They we re lost in a delitjious mnzt: : i__. - hof
and nmfie/*
This kind of praise applied to anjr of Byron'a
poems would be absurd, as it would imply a t<ptal
ignorance of the character of that great poet's
goniua.
In the eighth chapter of the sixth book of
I'endia^ Cadurcis aska Herbert —
" ' Wh&t if poetry but a lie^ and what are po»fct bui
liar* 1 '
*■ ♦ Yoo ape wrong, Cod arc i«/ snid Hcrtiert, ' po«t$ uri
the KjtttchioitUd^ed leffulat&rf nf Ott world*"
lliese are the very words of Shelley himself in the
last sentence of hia Lkftnct of Podry^ and the
queation of Cadurcis recalls the lines in Ihm Juan :
*' Poeta are such liars,
** And take all colours like the handa of dyert/'
After all, it is questionable whether Mr. Disraeli
has been moro successful in describing Byron than
Shelley. Many will regard both as laihires.
W. T, B.
Raiickk Eiders (5^ S. L 203, 271, 419 ; ii. a?,
98.)—
" And on hii match as much the Western horseman lays.
As the rank riding Scoti upon their CSalloways,"
IXraytou's Pal^olhton, the Third Song.
George R. Jesse.
Lord Oollinowood (6«» S. ii. 48. 9a)— The
last note on this subject is, unfortunately, no reply
to the ori^nnal query, re»pettinp Captain Barker,
who married Sarah, sister of the j^nreat admiral*
Since, however, the lineage of the family lia* been
brouiiht into the quealion, I am unxvillinf?!y in-
duced to deny that the admiral was descended
from a " niece of the Fair Maid of Kent." No
proof whatever has been adduced in support of
such an assumption ; but if the evidence ^lis^
and is produced {j& l\\^ ^^Mv^^ Vtk& tb^ t\^v Xft
178
NOTES AND QUERIES.
fS^S.n. Aua,a»,7l.
exjwct when such fi clttim is put forwnrd), I ahnlJ
be only too luippj to retract. In the nieantuiie,
however, my scepticism is, 1 think, fullv justified.
S.
" Yakgb Monday " (5«» S. ii 28, 74.)— I have
little doubt that this means Gang Monday,— that
is the ilonday in Rofr^tion week. The Bog:atir)n
d«y8 i*'ere called Gatm darfos before the Norman
Conquest, and Gang <iiya they are stiU, rm I huve
understood in the folk-speech of the northern
counties. Bishop Jewell uses the word in his
Exfosiiwn upon the l^teand EpMt U> ihi ThtMa-
huiatis^ chap. ii», ** They have used in Ivome» in
iheir geneml processions in tjanQ-weckj to go to
these seven hills," — Purker Soe.. edit., p. Ulb,
Henry Machyn, citizen nnd merdmnt lay lor of
London, tells u;* in his diar^^ under the year l^&\
"In gainic wyke, c^Uyd Hogasyon weke, they
whent a preaessyon with baners in dyvera pkues.*'
—P. 236.
Many more examples of the use of this term
raAy he found in Ellis'a BratuTs Fomilur Auti'
quit It jr, 1813,1. 172. Edward Pbacock.
Bottesford MAnor^ Brigg.
"Pan » (5"^ S. ii, 9, 74.)— Pan in Panileld may
be a slight coiruption produced l>y u trivial vowel
change in the Celtic Pen ^= a sham or peaky hill,
hence the *' Pennine chain" of hiJis, the ** Apen-
nines," &c. Tlie spellioff of the second syllnbte —
thus **ffeld" — takers us back to a time anterior to
the !!p|x^Uation *• hard pan/' as applied to the sub-
soil by agriculturists. When Jie?a was spelt ** Held,"
it had not the coutnict^d sense now associated with
it^ but generally represented a large tract of open
land, or campus, deai-ed of timber,
a Chattock, F.RH.S.
Cmtlc BromwicU.
In my note-book » I find the following meaning
of this word in connexion with a proverb i—
** Weal imd wciaati canaot pan*
But woe mud wo man can.
♦ Poll. Expression ti*ed in tlio Eastern GotmtteB
when the Barface of the soil is so closely welded together
thni uo ordinary effbrti of liuibandry can make any im-
presiiun on it."— From Uphill^ a novel, by Lady Wood.
A,L.
Panfield may be a conruption of Penfield or
Penfold. R. S. Charnock.
Gray'B Inn.
**Kkwlyk *' {b^ 8, ii. 8, 63.)— The "derivation
or meaning " of this name does not appear to be
certainly known. The late Rev. Dr. Bannister, in
hi."* Ghssary ofContuk Nanu.^^ defines it as '* New-
pool " ; but adds, on tlie authority of Gwnvjis of
Penzance^ who, with Tonkin, prepared a vocabulary
in the eighteenth century, " = ni«/-i^(, in a fog or
mist " ; and, in a foot-note, quoting Dr. Pryce,
author of Mineraloifia Comubiefms^ 1778, ** The
o|;»en or naked (nouth) hike (/j^i) ; and, quotiotr^
Mr. R. Edmonds, author of Z^ ^ ^
^c, '*near {ua) tho like." J
** the chiuch of ^'citdyn Ea^t w.^.-
to Si. Ne^vdina ; that of Newhjn ' , to]
St. Peter." Wm. I -lt,
Torquay.
'^ Mars nts sword " (5*** S. ii. 55.) — Somft
remarks on this subject will be found in Ait^h
bishofp Trench's Engli-ih^ Ptut and Pn^cftt, p. 11'
of the tirst edition. In reference to the pa»>ui^o ii
the pniyer for all conditions of men mentioned b
* 'laruv, the Archbishop w rites :—
** I cannot think that it would exceed the n'l*^"— •*- -f"^
our University Presaes if so palpable and *
ungramniatioil form were rcmoTcd frnm i
Bouk 8 which they put fartb, oa II
is Bupprest by many of the clergy i
would be only ueing here a libti:, ;..„...
already oaaumed in tho cuee of the iiible. in all
editions of the aMthori?e<l Vf^p^ion it stood oriifii
1 Kings XT. '24, * Nevt rL ^ hut heart was
with the Lord '; it ir; t now. In the
way Nordicai hit inftti lii. 4) bos been
changed into * Mordtcuts m&iiisti '; and in sonae m<
Gdltion»j but not in all, * Holofenut hU head * ( Juditbi
xiii. 9), into * Holof'trMs't bead.'"
T. Lewis O. Davikbl
Pear Tree Vicarage, Southampton.
** All's over and tbr child's KAKB'a Ay*l
thony" (5*^ S. I 46t^; ii. 13) is our veruon ofi
this puzzling saying on a too late arrivid. 1 never I
hcstrd it explalneii. M.
Cumberland.
Robert db Wycltp : Villenage (o**> vS, i. I-iTfl
ii. 52.)— H, T. is wrong in saying tlmt " so hit as '
Littletons time " the law was "unsettled aa to th#
enfnmchif«ement of the issue of the marriage of a
niefe w itb a freeman." Littleton is expitss upon
this point. He says : —
*' Also, if a viUelae taketh a free woman, to wifi
httve issue betweene tliein, the issues sh&ll b« rlT.
But if a niefe tnketh a freeman to her husband, '
issue shall be free."
And Bee Coke's comments on this
Co. Litt.^ 123a. He cites as authorities
and others of our oldest writers on law. In (
wall there was a peculliir cuptom. **Ibi pmtlt!
Kunt pueri inter libera m pat rem et dominiim uxori*
viilaua\" The really floubtful ]>oint in wbeth<:'r thJ j
marriage enfranchised the nuft for evrr, or onlf \
during the continuance of the
Co. Liii.^ loc. cit., and tlie note b} _
authorities there cited). Middle Tjiiiii^Aii,
Bradford.
" WiGos" (,V*» S. i. 2<U, 474; ii. 138.)— Wiga^
are still to be had nt nrintlunn. in Linmln*
They are nmde with 111
supposed the name >
Anglo-Saxon, which meaua whey, ^In. lUffiiJ
NOTES AND QUERIES.
179
I
llieT KxptTi€ntcd Ilonsck<fprr^ 17711, p* 274. gives
n receipt for mnking "Light Wi^^s/* ^Irs. Oia.sse,
in h<*r AH of Cooh:rif^ 1778, p. 27Q, instrucU the
un^ " »w to make "Very goodWi^"; und
T^ Econmnut, bv Mra Smith, lhir>,
p. L'4<>, t^ive.^ u receipt for "Whig?/*
Louisa Julia Kormak.
Dr. Watts (b^ S. ii. 107.)— Mr. Tra^t very
corrf'< ilv i*store» to Richartl rniahAw the credit
of A\\l verses descriptive of the mirftcle
at * I tiiink, however, the line —
** The coQflcioua wa,tcr saw ltd God, and blusbed "
— iji jgfeneRilly Attributed to Dryden, who, when a
ichooUboy iit We'rt minster, j^eeriH to hnve been
ijnpressecl by Cniishuw's example* Am I right?
Crosbaw's lines run thus i —
'* Fnfle nilK>r Testrw, et non lua purpura lymphiB
■ rcaa miraDtcs turn nova uiutat aquas ?
t: fcotiTiTO}) pnD&eita sLifnaacite Xuuicn :
^^jinplbii pudica Deum vitlit, et crubuit."
Hic ET Ubiqck,
Wlio was first in the field to imitate Crashaw, —
the author of the Bury Bit, or his contemponirj',
Aaron Hill, whose lines on the turning of wuter
into wine I append ? —
V ri Cbriit, at Cnnu'i feast» by power dirine
I ri.'d cold water with the warmth of wine*
: ,, crv'd tliey, wliile in red'ninur tide it gushed.
Ihc bMiiful ftteam hath seen iU God and b)u&h*d."
W. W.
Cot- IK CoL*Fox (5*^ S. i* pansim ; ii. 77.) —
If St, Swithin's acceptation be lulnussible (p. 77),
what are we to make of col-pi'itphd f Is this n
"young/" ** little/' *' new-bom " prophet { I snb-
Qut tlmt this rendering will not do. Turning to
ilisy, I find ** colly (of coIe» or cnul), Ihe black or
on the outride of a pot or kettle." Wedg-
1 sjivs, "A shepherds dot;, from having its
tt:' '. Sw. huUvg^ koliig, without boms,
ir>i e meralKT that ought to be there.^
' iLTinal question, an able contributor to
till ;d, Mr. IvALrn N. Jame-s, suggested
to me ftumc time ago the French mlc, which Bo3^er
rriHlcrs **ftkim,-* and gives us, ha a synonym of
ht^urdt — *' a fib^ tt lie, or slmm." This would do
qait* well for col^fox, or col-propkef. CoUy^ in my
fypiaion, comeis jfrom quite a ditferent root.
Edmu?;d Tew, ^I.A.
It ii atAt^d in the Rev. J. G, Wood's Natural
liiff^^f, p. 21>r», that the tails of some sheep-dogs
^r- i in early youth on account of the now
01 i wliich refiii?ed to acknowledge any
iiog j^- J'' [> .Ii>L. ur to exempt it from tax,
T ' lend.^ to confirm Mr. Wedgwood's
iri, h laws extended to 8coth*nd were
a^i'-Lvvi^ UL to the wop<l collie^ and caused the mati-
alluded to. GEORiiE H. Jesse*
Mr, Froitdk's "History" (5«* S. ii. 125.)—
Allow me to remind 8. T, P. that this so-called
" fact " is hearsiiy *' double-distilled." Possilily
it may not, on that account, be out of place in IMr.
Froude's HUtortj. Middlk Templar.
Bradford.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Rteord* of the Past hehuj Sngluh ; 7*ra' . /' ' ihe
Assyrian and Efjypliaii MoAumentji, Pi t 1 1 - 1 > I > under
the Sanclion of the Society of Biblicii Au iia oJogy,
Vol. IL Egyptian Texts. (Bagster k Sons.)
Tuisaccond tolumo, like the former, takes un, in Tory
trutbt into the far, far past. It is no fiHi^bt privilege to
read in modem type the ete-nta of bygone nf^e^, rcveiLled
liJtherto only in hieroglyphic and btenitit: cbarnctcrsu
When wc consider how mutilated the papyri, and how
iHejcrible the inscriptions of recent date often become^
the value and impurtancc of theso Hocorda cannot be
lowly estimated. Fulsome flattery bestowed on monarcht
19 not wanting* and probably to the lo« of importattt
chronicler, but even flattery is here a boon. The events
narrated nre clearly citpre^Sfd. It teemt, too, that the
Eftjptian kingi had gencratly five, and, in aomc oaiet,
iix titles and names. Two of the*c only are hi*toricaUy
important ; the first, or the pr:enomen, beinir the aolaV
or divine nfirn "' - 'the ftimily or birth name.
The great nii records make* us feel that
we are really ; ' < ' j»ast. while the authority,
public and poUiic^l iu kind, causes this book to be a pro-
duction rich in truth and hiitury. Many unaccountable
dificrep ncics will probably hereby die a natural death,
and Bib ical interpreters will welcome the new life with
wliicb history is being inspired. Wo cannot speak too
highly of both these volnmca. They are national contri-
butions. The remaining uupubUiihed inscriptitin« may
be looked for with pleasure, initiating us, as they will,
into many mysteries of the oldest literature in the world*
Tl(t Civil SfTvice JTaiulhook uf KngUih LiUrature. By
II. A. I)ob«on. (Lockwood k Co.)
This work^ though not the only one of its kind, ade-
quately serTes its end. It indicates sourees of information
to student*. Candidates for cicaminiitions m»y» by means
of this work, with liitto labour, make a rapid and healthy
digest of the rise and progress of English Literature. In
a volumi: of some 290 pages, all philosophical researches
are excluded. It« concieo form and cln ' ' ! nr-
rangcnipnt cnhnnce the vigour of the ) ful-
ness. The hiugraphies, terse in their <i 1 bo
appreciated by readen restricted U* time. iJJViJoJ, con-
ventionaUy. into eight chapter?, the various periods are
^|,.; o.r., A...r^jjg(| Qyj (^p njemory. The ^..-.T-ifc ..r this
J i ill not be diminished by the r liat
\ I 1^ the editor of The Civil S' / <>/
7: J ;.ija/, iuid atsiitant editor of Th4 CivU 6ar><c C/eo-
/^ftjfuE. Aftei^t and Modern. By Jolm Piggutt, F.S, A^
RO.a, FILG S. \ King & Co,)
HovrKVFit many may bo the demerits of thii book, — they
are for the most part, perhaps, m Oriental orthogranhy.
— jti merits are nut a few. It lajs hold of that at which
it has grasped. *• There is a demand,'* says the writer,
** for information respecting the land of the Shall." Mr.
Piggott has met this demand for information by pre-
senting the public >»ith a supply of details compilcdfrom
the best authorities on aubjects concerning Persia. The
author exhausts no small part of a vast theme. Briefly
touching on the ancient and legendary period*, be ^ak^a
180
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5''an.Atrc,2Sl.7i
the reidcr into the modem hiitory of the country* He
then plcMiintly idlures hioi into an acquaintauce with
Peraift'B religion, literAture, conimerce and products, orti
mod acieocefi, aumjj eduofttion and Janguage, wayt of
truYeUbg, spurts^ wowen, crown -jewek, coalfields^ and
the iilustrioui monarch recently a Tisitor at Buckingham
Palace, Every clmpler is full of iuitnictii>n ; »o liiU*
that wfl must refrain from quoting from itA 300 pvges,
and, instead, recommend a perusal of its muny attractioiu,
Pertiat Ancient and Modtrn ought to find a pUc© at
once on the gheUes of public, lendLng^ and free libraries.
Local Oaiai* ok the *' Retbospectivb Rkview." —
A writer, under the initial *'C/' (which b that beginning
the name of an old and honoureil correspondent of
" N, & ^.," 3Ir. Jamks Crossley), states, in the Man-
ckttter OuardiaHt that there is no foundation for the
aflwjriton that the Retrospfctive Aprun;; from the Mnn-
dijester Bihlinf/raphiana. Mel Cro^slet waa one of the
writers in the itc(rotp*'ditV(, and haf " surrited, it ia
beli4:fvcd, all thoae odsociated with him in the llrat tcries
of that work/' which appeared more than half a century
«go.
DuftHAK CATiiKi>UAL.— The excaTatioDi made on the
rate of the Chapter Uouae have brought to Light many
reUcs of mcdi»ral interments. A itone coffin covered
by a alabf but without any inicription, was found lately
in the centre of the Chapter House, a few feet below the
original floor. The slab waa raised in the preeence of
the ]>eun and other gentlemen. Iniide the coffin was
found the skeleton of a womao^ four feet six inches in
length, which presented the appearance of having once
been wrapped iu liuenj some traces of which remained.
The Saxon Chubcu At Bbacpordox-Avoj?.— Tbia
invaloable and unique retic of early Christianity in
We^sex ha« now beeti purchased, and m permanently
secured. Tl)e work of reparation and preMrvation hai
been, on the advice of Sir Gilbert Scott, itnintsied to the
care of Mr. J. T. Irvine. About 5t)0/. Lave been cpent
in the cost of purchase. As the funda in hund nre almost
exhausted, and some 800^ are still required, intending*
donors will do well to forward their contributions,
without delay, to the Vicar, the Rev. W. U* Jones.
Tub grave of Leonardo da Vinci has been diacovered
within the Castle of Amboise. It was covered by a slab
beoriug the great artiste name. The body was found in
£Ood preservation.
The " Young Roscius," Master Betty, who set England
in a foolisli frenxy at his acting sixty-nlne years ago,
died on Monday, aged S3.
The ARCiTiK?lscorAL Lidbary at Lambeth Palace will
be closed, for the receas^ for six weeka, from tl^o end of
August. ^
BOOKS AKD ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PURCHASE.
Putl«u)ar« of Prk«, ac., of «very book to be trnt ilirtct to
tile peTKo ^T vlium it ii required. wb«M hkihc aad Addrewi m,t*
Civen for that purpoM :—
Amik BARTiiiLifut Misciiit (8t. Leser]. Notice Raifoea^** d«s
liisT of ' i(v Thouiuvd Pound* <<tTi.aied ht
Hix uvt of hu Tralj Uij&l A»d tadf-
scut I
\SBiii[«-i] t'y ii,^i.uutii /y.iri.^A:, Bott«aford Muior, Briftg^
Tin Book. % work w tntiUed writtea by Mia Serra, and pubUiU«d la
orberoreiftls,
TuK Book , Tin DiurutK IxravriOATios. OopiiS of Sitiicr of the
aboYC beuring d&t« anteiiiu- to ISLS.
Jfaa. OtJvtA W. f$iEaRr»- Anf wurki vrritUD bv ber oudtr that Qani«.
and aoT writteo bjr her undtr the title of rriuoeitf oUvc uf €am-
bwlaaa.
Vsaled hi VTitlMirt J. Tfum^^ £«i? , <io. St. GMns't lMiuare» Bclgrare
gtiting to thim, b4>th for Ut^ir Baku <u %>tll oi oar v<w> —
Thait th«y shovM ^rriff drcrfy and «fa<t •u^/jr-^and oa
one aide of i ^/t«ctV«//y prt>|»fif iiaasi
a nd words a erptanatii0m mat ht
retjuired. t: . .^ ^. . .*.^. .^ fmMoi tmt mimta CvT'
rttpond€ni doe* not thnnk w&rth the trouhU of writaig
ptainlif^
S. T.— The best answer we can give is iu slAtins afi
The church authorities in Italr have itiAt rtuiwiS ..
inscribe the name of Prince Otho von f — — ^^ Wi flw
baptismal registry of San Giovanni, a.^ - ik
child of aiib lieutenant Tonfani, on the j.'r i%naf.
''Sciant praL'terea parochi . . ... nc»i cs»o adiuitteim
intidoleiaut heroticos .... neque qui ignormnt rodimeBti
fidci."
W. J. J. asks if ''Neither your brotb«r nor I vii
aware of the fact" be a graramattcal orpreaeioD, or t!
the '"was "should be *'were-** The "was*' i
right, and cannot be changed for "were"
terrible bruising of the often-battered head
The above expression is tantamount to "Neither was
your brother aware of it, nor was 1." A referetice le
what any grammar says on difjunctire conjunctiguu
would profit our querist.
J, P. li.— The subject of the dea-ivat- i -'' '' '■
and Judy'* has been discussed an<
•*X. k Q." See General Index to i
4»*'Sene8of"N, &Q."
E.D.—
'' Meteor-like, of stuff and form perplext,
Whose what and where in dispiiiattpii it*"
Look for it in Cowley.
P. 8. (Marlboroagh),-"The Heralds ftod PtirsuivanU
named still officially exist There are three Kingi "f
Arms, six Heralds, and four PunatTanti. See Boolell't
H^frndry^ for details.
W. G. T.— The eixtcen ^u ' u:>d WM flWr
eeparate noble de»ceni«. l e Dokv ^
Northumberland ia said to iui_ . . .,.-
H. P. P.— The body of Henrr VI %s
in Chertsey Abbey. Ktchard IlLremov
where it is now said to reat.
S. begs leave to thank O. and Mr. R. X, Jaitssr<9r
tbcir aiisweiia to his query.
£. X. H. (Hillield).— See p. 131 antt. Thanks all
same.
C, V, ii thanked for hit courtesy in sending to il
publisher the duplicate of an old number of ** N. k (j.**
0. P. (Margate). — The lines are a translation of
of an ode by Horace, Ode 10, Bk. iL, " Beclioa rf te«/^(
W. T.— ^ot only did French gentlemen then w«ar
rings, but they also used muffs, and olten carried faMi|
J. T.— As many cities as bishops.
G. R. Jksse. — Not received.
Editorial Commonications should bo addreaasdlo ^1
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idtiu
jV. 8JkTURDAi\ SSPTSilBSR B» 1874
GOJiTBNTa— N* 86.
iLcKttlHIes: Scotlmnd. ISI^lTltTA-Canie-
tn. t, WSfc-llDU, Wych, fcnd 8«U Workt, 183—
|V*'Cic«baIUmi «t A Mode of Iiii«nneat» ud KcUted
h ISI^OnTMM Entombed in WilU-SunnlijU In-
lfl^"T^rMa/* ie&— " DiphthonK," ** Ophth*lmi»,"
UIA'*— Afflilnvtt Kirldeiaee— Bew %ad Wine, and Beer
MwWmiton K^gisteim. B«da-Sijr WlUiua Tern pie—
^ -"* BftUol : BftUlBQl, 196.
i Atm*-OiboiTie Family, 187-Iri*h
t*,tr..it i'h.M..r*_^-,.i^iun_'*Qi4 LoDdon Fortlfloi-
'i«Jii— Leofrlc'f Hiaia]— f^'Ania
f TboiDM Pftl&ft— Heraldic —
^ .^itman^ tbe Leper— A Gmnd^
r f I ' L— Portrait* of OuitaTtu Adolpbiu
or Weir, the EdtobuiKh Maiflclan, ISti
^^^ i .^ or ''Tbo Three Barena "— V Uage :
mpf—- -' ^>ie OombaUBte at Perth is ISOfl. ISO—
B^ ' ' ^^At« i>orooenbipa of Eadaad, 191 —
Kl l itmfMMlniA la ](ieQ_8{ie^K{iT|pf, ig3_
^» i7iiuiMif-i.it- "' "*'- li —-'« >.,.<- rin^eu*'
l» 8Mllk«0»«--.^ Knt.
-JUSdUrlil. ]v*i-
» 04 CofVUaciital Tltl«a of Honour,' llti^— Archer
'* Coidniu BcnedictiaB "— *' PeotecoBt " « a
'"When Voriclo B«airttD "—Londoii Companies, or
Booki^ t^
fluted.
llAN LOCALITIES: SCOTLAND.
per and north-west end of the parish of
and Stewartry of Kirkcudbright is a
ant some three-quarters of a mile in
^tbree-qu&rtets in breadth, and within
BOitM diitasce from tbe Hhore, is an
and, circnkr^ and of about Km:> fe^t in
It \sL the site of one of those curious
Ima they are called in Irelnnd, find eb^
likeKiweUinga," which has been reared, as
IVCtnn* ugniiily if not almo&t always are,
I VtHiCBliy placed and cro^s beams. This
cdM Lorn ATihur^ also Loch LotuR, or
t and in d MS. description of the Stewartry
". JjUOeg Vm pTY^-^* rvi .1 iirn.k.u' the
WvocMeu' LiIt ader
twrr," Thf' i-, or
tim," Arthtir, who liourisiied. in the
Ih and fii^t h.ilf of tho sixth centur}%
ler of the < d Britons, or
ahria or i ..ie^ is siiid to
Jimt of liis tvviUe renoMoed
e Ftifiin Siixons, united with the
_, at the mouth of a water ciUIchI
fiionum of Nennitis). Mr. Skene*
the Four AthC, Books of Wal4St
bur AdTimced from the boulh, some
part of the English border or soutli t!nn >r, into
Scotland, or that part which lie* ween
the two Konum walls "on the w* tliaa
by fJae cjwt coiiat, or through the enemies country,
Bimicia, At this time the large diiitrict, extend**
ing frmji the river Nith on Uie south, to Loch-
ryan, or the Rhyns of Galloway on tbe west, was
in the oociipation of the Galwtjdd^ said to b© »
Pictittb colony, and hostile to the Cymri. Thi^
pariih of Ni^w Abbey is within this district, now
known as Galloway, aJthou^^h situated at ittt Tery
eastern extremity, bordering on the cj»tuiir>* of the
Kith* And here m a water, aa well aa an extern-
sivu tmcl, both called Glcn^ the "wnter, after
forming' a junction with New Abltey Pow and
various streams, embouchinj^' into tiie Nith }mme-
diately west of Caerlaverock < Jastle. Mr. 8kene
(Mr, Stuart Glennie concurring in his Tiews), in
attempting to identify the site of Arthurs twelve
battles » adopts, not this water Glen, but one whicli
falb into the Irome at Darvel, in Ayrshire, as the
scene of the first kittle, a place an far advanced
to the north-west as to be far within the (southern
frontier, and nearly in the centre of that wide
district lying between the walls. It is also even
yet comparatively a wild mountainous reiarion,
abounding in moraasefl^ and one imq^i '1\
into which it would be dongcrom* to 1:1
face of a hostile army, if backed by the iiilKiuiuiJiLs.
Besides this the question nrLsey—Is it probable
that Arthur was allowed to advance thus far before
the hostile occupants of the intervening district
made a stand and gave him battle I In con-
descending on the Glen water at Darvel Mr. Skene
nmy not luwe known of the Glen water situated
here, and m not far from the starting- point of
Arthur's westward advance, or of the lake Cfdled
IfOch Arthur and Loch Lotus^ the artificial island
within which, if it was occupied by Arthur,
according to the load tmdition, would account for
the name now given to the loch.
Eegarding Loch Lotu&, the other name of this
loch, we lietir of Arthur after his twelve battles
(the last of which was Badon Hill, in 51(> A.D.),
and his great success thereby in subtiuing his
Pagan enemies, the united Saxons, Pict« and
Scota, dividing the conc[uered territory, or a large
IiortioQ of it, nmonff three brolhera— f/riVr^ LUw^
and Annvn; but now he did *m» we learn not.
Llew, also caUed Lothns. i<
I^othirin ; and as he is
traditions as having bee
may htwe hud those of < i. i 1 > ^
UTider hh ^way, im well u^ n
who, it is allowed, at tlii* tii:i
Mn<l whom Arthur is a^id i^>
the ; • v
or I
Lot": una 11 M-eiiv-. Tim ::.
thtit the ifttter had origin m \
-1 Lt.lM
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[S^ 8. IL Saw, 5. 74.
I Pictuii 1di^)eC, whose d&oghter Thenaa was
' er of S«iiii KeQtigem, &od wboee
^ or Mckdred, rtsing in rebellion with
w kttder of the array against
.iillnr Al the l»ttk of CftmlaHf in 537, the site of
w^atA m atqnoaed to be Camdon, once a Boman
tovm «B tlie CWftoii, in which both Aithur and he
^ ii k also proper to mention^ o& the south
^id OBWlii-wesi this parifih of New Abbey is
iMniHih' hw a abort chain of hi^h hilk, the hill of
Lwti% ImIdv which la Loch Lowtis (alias Loch
Latam and Lodi Arthur), being on its south- woit
end, and Cfi^yi on the south-east, both high
at«cp roc^ esunencei^ Mr. Skene and Mr. Stuart
41liiiiiie have fiukd to DOtioe this as an Arthurian
loadi^, and htnee mj object in now directing
tTLf&A^IBXTBSA&IAKISM.— Na 7.*
dm Wjj^bcc, I06L— XAT&urm. Bicanov^, Kft,^
Mmn LtaTWWurjp, UL— BisarrcB, lOL
Ommi Wmidi^—U wiH be conTenient to
■iyinti Ms. (Thavck's communication into the
l»o paita into which it natniallj fidk, and, in
diiing ao^ I will gire pncedenoe to what he desires
to ngr nmding Ooimt Waldeck and the 108
jHHi lo wfeidi he bjs daim : —
' I oopr the ioDowing from the Paris Figaro of
the IMi Mazdb ^h&Sed the ISth):—
'Avttl^hiv, It OoBlit 4s Waldsek, fStait, au milkit
JPwm eaa will d'lsai^ k 10^ anaJfusMje da la naiaanrf ,
^ euBciAuft awe k ^tc di> ie Mam
•X. k Oaato da Waldggk n*<^ sjawmwiiBl mimi:
tdiiwasb 11 Tcaaift de ckaaitr an air dTopfiim avae aat
I'lf Bi ^tiMaanla yor cet to si aiaiici.
•"•Maagrmad^tee a ttomqa-A lO aM»* boos a>l41
<ll. -«ft> iHb W S* ecBin^ da Maftsilk ! **
• II fsB f#e«a fM k Tk hanaiM daiaaa lova kt
ovuft
■i MiB afina aad is md keakh 1
llMlkrMB.THo»!-
I iBtt aa if I Dvgkt to a|okctaa to the f«adm of
>K.ft Q.*lbr tmli4g the pRtoMiMM to center
■ttkakm 4if Oriiold gttkwini aa IT the j wm
lai'iihiilri af hk Hfe ate to moj, awl ipfitM^
aoo«riBid,tkittk7«mto iM<Mo?ir^
that Iktj ikMid Bol be aoeaiD{Maied bj eiM Mft#
dHiy-Hwvcddato; telhcqgh it k staled thai
ht WBB beni at Pr^^ m the lOh Mmh^ ITW,
M cvidnea hsa bees pntAMdia amiat««rtl*l
BMliMlkMtalL HTksakHto
onacir af the old FMe Sk Jfaatt»
1799; to hsw bMtt vwittikd at
m 1906,wbaftsg^oagaas€bptoittof
Hussars ; to hare been pensioned by L'floole dea
Beaux- Arts in 1826 ; and to have married in 185a
when eight j-four jears of sge^ In all this bushel
of assertion there is not one grain
although, through the Timti of thi raa
last, I challenged some Parisian believer m (Joufl
Waldeck's presumed centenananism to fur
confirmation of anj one fikct adyanced bj hin
and reported hy Galiffnani, not an atom
such confirmation has ever reacbed me,
I hare received priyaie communications
ing grave doubts as to the accuracy
Count' t rtcoUiciiofu. One gentleman, who
known the Count between thirty and forty je
sets his age down at about ninety-four or* ninety
five. Until something confirmatory of the Voxmfi
ckim is produced, I shall beg to decline troub
mjself farther with the question of the real agQ <
Count Waldeck.
I feel confident that hk claim to be irip will be
cetabtished bj precisely the same t ' s tlml
which pttwes there have been U\ en lu-
narians in hk fiuniljp and that ms >rneraKI<
gnuMlfiither attained the slightly exceptional :igc.
of les.
SathatM Bidbiofid.— The aeoond case brought
forward by Mm, Chajtcb k one fisr better deserving
of attention : —
** In a note of mine in * N. & Q/ in .1
(3^ S. L 454X I called the attention «>l
Lewis to the case of a penaioner in Cht U..t Hus-i
pital, whom I had seen tnere in 1861, and who wail
then said to be 106 years old ; but if SirCJ. C.
Lewk did make any inquiries about hnn, he <ii<i
not oommimicato the icsult to the n^aders of
'N.&Q/ I saw thft death of this old nio
xeooided in the newspapers two or three yoBff
alter the dale of my visit to the Hospital, and h^
was then stated to be Ilkb or li>9 years old. Un-
fioitttnat^, I omitted to take a note of hh nnm,
but of coittae hit tniist sHU be well rem€ui}>er6d »i,
the Hoipitai It mn^ to be eesy to make ^
whether he rcoUy atladned the age clAimed foi
him, and perhaps Mb. Thqms will undertake t'
inquuT. F. CuAJfci.
Kalhaaiei RirttinnBil, for snch u the :
the penawmer ia qvertaooy died in
Hospital on the t9th of Htty, 1763, at the i
^ge oC Ityr. I looked into thk case as Ion
sa 1571, but was ttnahte to come to any i
coMlissioii as to the ml age oC the old m»ti.
fim pkce of evideoce sa to hk ao^ U thi%t
ttkhta hr him at the ttai^of hL^
theiediDMOMimtks aotlA^
he seena to hftye siatod hk i^ 9: nun\
Gctlably a bmbI aiceptkqal m for a
•■Ikl m» a dnfooa itsiiaaiL If an ^rmrP
MMt fnMtfy BOt cttt to wbkk Bldimona wai s
AM
M
'&U.8>n.S,7«.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
183
p«liT, but Hither, I sospect. An error on the p<ijt
of the clerk who wrote thirty-eight for twenty-
eight. But there exist discrepancies iu the olilcuil
reoordi ; for while at hia enlistment he is
described as thirty-eight in 1794, which would
make 1756 the year of hia birth, ho is, in another
feoord, described as fifty in 1B08, whiuh would
give 1758 as the year m which he wiis born«
Hathaniel Richmond stated, on his enliatment^
he was bom at Tatnwortk In 1871, a friend
ing there had the register examined for the
' of hia baptism, but, althon|»h it was searched
for twenty years each way from the date of his
supposed birth, the only entries of the Richraond
family recorded in it are tho baptisms, on Slat
January, 1767, of William, son of Nathaniel Rich-
mond ; June 19, 1769, of Thomas, son of Nathaniel
and Ann Richmond ; January 12th, 1771, of John,
and of the burial, in 1773, of Ann Richmond, My
frtend suggested that the old man was really either
William or Thomas.
It has since been found that, in one of the
reeckrds of his service, Richmond is described as
bom, not at Tamworth, but at Wigginton, near
^un worth ; but I am informed thai an application
for information from the baptismal register of
Wigginton has not met with any response.
So the real age of Nathaniel Richmond remains^
It this moment, a vexed question.
P*om the many communications which I received
on the subject of the Tring Centenarian, it is
evident that Mr. Piggott^s confident and pre-
tentious account of Betsy Leather! und and her
111 Twirs, which appeared in the Tunes of the
-nist, has been copied into nearly all the
d joumals. As the same publicity is not
iikcjy to be given to the contradictions to this im-
pfotnble story given, by a late rector of Tring, in
the Time§ of the 20th, and by Mr. Loosley, of
Berkhamneteadf in that journal of the 22nd August,
and as >lr. Piggott has not thought it necessary
to take any notice of the points in the case to
which I ventured to call nis attention through
the same channel, I desire to put upon record
(the fact that Bet«y Leather! und's 111 years rest
upon no better foundation than her own state-
ment and the gossip of the neighbourhood.
I am the more anxious to do this since the
iirriter of an article " On Longevity," in the Satur-
^auMfview of August S22, seems to treat the case
tl Betvy Leatherlund as one of which the facts and
vooehttTs are forthcoming in due order ; and having
toio to, proceeds by an easy transition to the case
«la man ; ' ^'Idritch, aged 104, brought for-
, ward l'> a Gibb in the Anthropaloffical
JaurmaL * ur^-ne to speak with all respect of
I Dr. Oibb*a medical oommenta on this case ; but I
I ho^ I taxj say, without offence, I have no coni-
I deooe in Ins treatment of evidence. He flpeaks of
I
the various centenarians who form the subject of
his essay as ** undoubted examples," and of there
bein^ " not a doubt of the accuracy of their ages,**
yet in this very case he does not seem to have as-
certained even the ChriHtian name of Eldritch, the
precise place of his birth (for Gloucestershire in
rather a loose statement), nor even whether it took
place in July or December, 1767, Science is not
advanced by deductions bai^d on such imperfect
premises, William J, Tuohs.
I With rof[&rd to one statement in the paragraph re-
ferring to the Count de W«ldeck'» manigeni^nt of tbe
VoTte St Martin Thentrc. it i« to be obserTrd that ibe
Prvnch Oncra Houm, which wai near the Porte St. Martin,
was clo»ea to 1798, It had been the French Opera Hoiuie
iLDce 1781. It wit not opened as the Theatre de ta
Porto St, Martin till 1S02.]
HALL, WYCH, AND SALT WORKS,
The names of phices in England terminating ir>
idch being the site of salt works, and the prefix
Hall under similar circumstances in Qemiany,
open up an interesting inquiry as to their origin
and relation.
We may first inquire, whether the temiination
wichj widely scattered as it is over the country^
and applied to many hamlets and townM which
never had anything to do with salt, can be shown
to have any connexion with the manufacture. I
believe there is such a connexion, but it is in an
indirect and rather circuitous manner. The radical
wrtdt, or viCf is very widely spread throuffbout tbe
Aryan languages. We find it in Sao wit Pes' a
(the Sanskrit i' being the equivulent for the
guttural in other tongues); Greek, oticov; Lat.,
vic-iiM t Goth.» rcifu ; GaeL^ Jlch ; Cyni., gwi^ ;
A.-S,, wic; Norse, rig. The original meaning
appears to be that of an abode or dwelling-place.
In this application, we find t^urJk, or tvtdt^ as a
suffix in every part of the country ; Barwiok, KI-
wick» Warwick, Adwick, Osbaldwick, Ktlnwiclir
Wickham, Wickford, &c.
When the Danish and Norwegian pirates
ravaged the coiists of Great Britain, they ran into
the little bays and creeks for shelter, and ettab-
lished themselves, sometimes temporarily, some-
times permanently. These vigs^ or hamlets, being
usually in an inlet or bay, the term t^ig came to
signify the bay as well as the hamlet. We have
thus mtks^ wichts and vig^ all round our coast,
Dunwich, Harwich, Sandwich, Northwich, East-
wick, Ray wick, Berwick, &c In Scotland, Wig-
ton, Wick, Uig Bay in Lewis, Uig Bay in the
Isle of Skye, &c.
When many of these bays afterwards became
used for tbe manufacture of salt from sea water,
the term vig^ wick^ or (Ci/cA, was naturally tt«sQ*
ciated with the pbce of the production. Subse-
quently, when brine springs were discovered
inland, the familiar name of tryc^, identified with
184
NOTES AND QUERIES.
f5**s.1T,%itlT;%,^
the salt manufactture, vtbjs applied to them. The
salt pan3 were rn^' -* ^h houses* In Domesday
Hoak% we hjiYe to salt works at Wich,
IJpewich, Midiil, .r- .,, ^inwich, Droitwich, nil in
Worcefitershire. Hence, also Northwich, Middle-
^widi, Nuntwich, in Cheshire. Wick, therefore, in
roundahont sort of way, has undoubtedly a
bilological connexion with the salt niBnuiiif'tiire.
When the salt works became established inland ^
a difference waa found to exist >>et\veen the salt
jua^Je friiin the brine aprings and that from the aea
-water, the latter being coai'acr and stronger. From
l>eing made in the vics^ or bajH, on the coaat, it
acquired the name of *' bay salt," a term which is
stlD continued in the trade, but more applicable,
at the present day, to the salt made from sea water
abroad.
Another element in the nimies of places con-
nected 'with the salt manufacture is Hall.
Hal and sah are the terms for salt in the Latin
and Teutonic langua^jes, Hals and Hall in the
Greek and Keltic, Now, it is a fact that we find
the words Hall and Sah strangely mixed together,
ontl intersecting each other in the names of places
in Teutonic countries. Halle, in Prussia, stands
on the River SaaJa ; Halkiyi^ m Sakburg, stands
on the' River Salza ; Hfichen-kaU^ in Bavaria, is
on the River Sak ; HiMadt is in the Sak Kam-
mergut. We have Ln En}:Tli\iid many names of
plaoes compounded with Hall. BahaH^ in Lan-
■ cashiTe, presents the same combination of the two
-elements just mentioned, and is situated on a
jnarsih near the sea coast. At Haling, on the
Hftiup»lure coast, salt works still exist. We have
idso Halstead^ Hal wick, Halton, and others, tdl
pointing in the same direction.
It is impossible to resist the conclusion, that in
remote times, before the immigration of the
Tetttonio race6 into Crerraany and England* salt
was manii£ictnred in these localities by the Keltic
habitants, who have recorded their memorials in
ftho names left behind them. Th« Welsh name for
lit is hd^ and for a salt pit, heUdd, Hence
Vj'MlulU, the m\% pools. By the Welsh, Nant-
l-wich is called luledd-wcii, the clear salt pits ;
jKorthwich, heUdd-ddu^ the dark salt pits.
The light cast upon our loeal nomenclature and
Pthe migration of racei* by associations of this kind
is interesting, and worth being placed on record.
J. A. PlCTON,
Swidjknowt, W^vortree*
FOLKLORE.
DEVONsniRE FoLK-LoRE. — L A toad's leg tied
I round the parts aflected is a cure for the king's
[ evil. 2. If yoLi have a mole on your back, you are
tfiure to be murdered. X To cure a sty in the
ti|^e. rub the part three times all one way with a
""^-^iing ring. 4. Another cure for a sty is to
rub the part with a tom-cat's tail 5. If you ineet
a flock of sheep, it is lucky to v "* * ^ ' ^^ the
Sfjn is calle* J by the same na! , one
of the two will be killed, or di^^ ,.^..-.^..,1.
J. C. CiXlOOlL
Tiverton.
WilATIlEU pROCJXOSTtCS (5*** S. I. 3S4,)— I ofttQ
heard the following weather-rhymed in Coren
in my boyhood : —
'' An aut [atmiborlyl wind 4Uid a 1^
Bring aa eMt wind home tniig.**
^* A (o^ and n imaU moon
llring nn casiorly triad MOfi
" Fritljiy nad the week
Are aeiaom aleek [iklike].*'
Torxja^,
Superstitions of Yorksiciee Fiefummor.-
At Staithes, in Cleveland, if a fisl]- I'ptti^
to meet a female first on leaving hi i^ipnt
out to sea, he will turn back again, as no nnaly
believes that all his luck would ne woiled for (M
dav. FLORKtrCS CLKVXLJUrO.
dtokeslej.
Thunder. — Popular weather sajing in Kent
«* If it sinks from the north.
It will double itt wniih.
If it iinki from the south.
It will open it4 mouth,
If it fllnla from tho
It is never at reft.
If it Btaks from the east.
It wlU leave us in peace.''
Berbkrt Ba:
Rlngmore.
OcTRB FOR Consumption. — Th^
tin}? from the Wcittm Mail ne
2r>th June, 1874, deserves perpetual pfeici>4;J
in"N, clQ.'»:—
'* CirnK voa Cokbumptiok.— An AmericMi p«|i
that & family at Lewiftton, Mune, hfiving loet 9<
its memben by conaumption, recently had tli'.'
tbo lart one who died dwinturred and ri
downwanhi. This "nae in accoFclance with
to flop the TVmigim of tha dlieaee in the fanuj v n ^^ «i>if
neeeMaiy to bury tiM kil 'Vkt^ face dosrnwardt/*
K. .S: M,
Cremation as a Mode of LxTEiiiitM, anp
Rklated StrnjECTS. — A cor
writersr have discussed, from
ipiarian points of view, the whulo
ftepultui'e, burial rites, and funerftlH. J
cyclopadias, travels in India, Kgypt, lJai»i
and books on manners and custotoit geneml
among the older authoritieB—
BoBio« IM Roma ^Soffomnm (ateo la Aria^hr* Htm^
Sotttranfo.) ; Gutherius, Dt Jwr* Manimm, fit IThnwa*
Toliv T. and x\\. : Kircbmanaae, Xk #Va<rtf MomstUfmMS
Laurentiufl, Dt Funeribvis Antipwrum, #te., Ae Qt^Mti^
rot xi. ; Meurtias, Di Funert^ in GroiwHu, TOl. SiL;
Mf,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
185
— ta Menrmifa, Optra; Montfaucon, Lt* /^VnnU
' voL v.; aitd Supplement^ aJ«o voL t. ;
^* Fur^hns (It toutti Us N^ation* i and
pulcHi He
find VtUttA
^i by L
' PAI)TCIlill<>.
Hanfys : Pomay,
Porcacahi, Fan-
\ 4h«r 1 tmttBlaiiQtl ; Kl
V^*^ ■ ■-. /"?itorj.'iu, Tol. xi, t ^"i--......., -<.i..r,,^ ... ..u-
«erfitKi|^ Burial, or Do Sepultiinii in hie Worki ; Spon-
ttmv^ CoftneCma S^cra.
A luor© modern dUcussion of the sepulture
^ueetioo arose in France, chiefly during and after
e Fwach Revolution, with reference prinoipAlly
the »ame evik which occasioned the English
tigatioas and consequent enact-
t half a century later, viz., the
li^j oi i.u'.iiiii j(L in or under church edifices and
the mid-'it of towns. The authority most cite<i
^_A tMs discussion wa^ the Italian Piattoli, who
RnveatigJkt^d the subject by request of the Govern-
Tjuetit of Tuscany, and whoae work was mostly
tmnaferred (with acknowledgment) by the French
-.1.^ -'^-^n, W<v\ ii'Azyr, into hia own publication
■b led Eii(xi mr Us Licux tt Uji
^^^ res, in voL vi. of the CEuvreii
Icq d'Aiyr. Other authorities for this Btatfe
lh*» diPcu'^'iion are, Cambry, Rapports surks
I rard, De9 Tomheaux^ on dr VInjincnct
■< Fun^hret sur li& Mftiurs; Maret,
rMimoiic Kur i Usage WEnkrrer Us MorU dans Ujf
'-tf, &c* ; other works by Navier^ a physician
ulons (1775), Haguenot, a professor at'Mont-
_e nukteriftl of Piattoli ag used by Vicq dAzyr
I Hied agikin by Dr. Allen, of New York, in a
— hlftt titiKli«li*..i 1.V:. \.;^ \j^ th»t city in 1822,
lis, of New York, in
i- .-, , :tred in 1823, Both
m(r other authorities, to a report in
of the New York City Board of
' i.ido by Dr. Miller, Mr. John
f ^Ir Vfin Zandt, on interment in
' N V York publications were with
fi 'i^^^il^riy? to cholera or yellow-
lificuRsion nf the question of intra-
nt is presented pretty
Parliamentary com-
S — one by
by Lopda
^, auu i^ii, V ijiiiUwick and
th.
„...ient authorities above quoted
I ** (or bumintj) of the' dead i« dis-
in a» 111 .fr^rirrd manner, as one of
I the reruains. The
Jiwft^'' i-h diseus^ionB next
to i*alj^ di^iiil with i( incidentally or by
^^_^ iotj ; what they sought, aoii have obtained,
WM ilie nsG of rural eemeteries instead ©f city or i
** intm-tnural ** burialj. The renewal of the general
que4ition of
present in ]i
''Oretnation . ...
view, see Grimm,
Leichen/^ in the
' of the dead^ wliich is at
speciUcally directed to the
.LinainB, For this particular
' Li eber daa Vcrbrennen der
Tramactio7iji of the BcrHn
Academy of Scknces^ 1849 ; Jamiesou, *' Origin of
Cremation," in Tran4a4*iion8 of Royal Society of
Edinburgh for ISIS ; "The MeriU of Ch^mation,"
a paper by P. Frazer, jun., in the Penn MontJkly
of June, 1874, reprinted separutely.
The following, on ix>ints connected with inter-
ment, may also be consulted: Rossi, l^mn Sot-
teranc^^ Rome, 1864, &c., a transktion and com-
pilation from Kossi by Northcott and Brownlow,
London, 1SU9 ; '* Burial of the Dead," an essay by
Dr. Jaeob Bij^elom-, in his Modern Immiriu;
Feydeiiu, **CtTcucU« et Inhumations au Moyen-
Age/* in Annahj^ Archiofogiqnc^ vols. 14, 15, for
1854-5; Ranch, //i^ro-AfuroZ fnfxnrunts^ pamphlet^
Chidigo, 1BG6* C W. Suttox,
CoRPBEs ENToitBKD vs Walls.— I lately met
with somewhere, it may have been in *^ N. & Q.,-'
a notice of a corpse found embedded in the wall
of a church under restoration. The circumstance
teemed to have created much surprise, and to be
regariied as one of rare occurrence. This may be
the case, and yet there is strong ground for the
belief that it is a custom that has prevailed from
very early times. Though tolerably well acquainted
with the works of Bede, it was not tO] the other
day that I read his history of the Abbots of Wear-
mouth and Jarrow, in which, at chap, xv*^ I c&mo
upon the following passage : —
'* Utraqiie in una tbeca led «i«fto parieU dii»i»a reet^-
deni, inUiB m eadem ecdeiU ju«ta corpm Ueati patris
Beaedicti composuit."
The bodiea were those of Easter win and Sij^jfrid,
Abbots of Weannouth and Jarrow, the dates of
whose deaths being respectively a. r>. 686 and a.d,
689. Hence the custom can be traced back, ap-
parently, close upon twelve centuries, and probably
farther stiU. Edmpnd Tew, M, A
Su:k-dial Inscriptions. — It should be made a
note of that the inscription on the sundial at All
Souls* College, Oxford, is taken from Martial,
B. v., ep. 20, Lite connexion in which the words
occur being —
*' bdnoR<]ue
Soloa cfiTugere ntqiie abtre Ben tit ;
Qui nobis p<ir«uiii, et imputmitur*'*
BtOIL
"Tureen.*"— -This word is an instance of the
innovations so often produced by carelessoena or
caprice. In every dictionary to which I liave
access it is spelled terrinc^ aa b^\ww \3a\v!^n TsssAfe
of earthenwaTe. ^. \, ^ .
186
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[5<» 8. a. Smn. 5^ IL
** DiPHTHonG^" "Ophthalmia,"** Nafhtha-*' —
In these and similar words, English people pro-
nounce pk a« p. The Greeks, who had better ea-ra,
purposely miide it i^ U> match the &. Walker, a
► very incompetent judge, defends the English
practice. T. H, R
ArriDAVTT EvtDKKCB :—
*' The queiiion of an entirely reformed sjatem of jnrit*
pmdence i« prominently before the public at this
'moment. At present the rulee uDdcr which the iystem
III to be worked hare not l>een seen. All who t&kc an
f.Sfitereat in the adminktration of justice will remember
Lthe strong commenU called forth from Lord Chief
[justice Bovill on the occ&bIoq of the firet Tichbome
[trial by the wny in which evideucew&s given byaffidftTit
[in the Court of Chancery, The Epping Foreet cane now
rbeing heard before an eminent judge of that court — tbe
I Halter of the BolI«— ia provoking aimilar commente
IttBOn the affidarits put in by the Lordi of Manora. On
I Tuesday, for int tance^ during the croaa^examinaiion of
[the defendant 'a witDeetet, h« expreiaed himaelf Ihuf : —
F * Bad ai our gyatem of affidavit la, it doea not generally
break down like this ' ; and again. * up to the preeent
I moment^ we hare not got a witneu who knows what ho
r&aa a worn to in his afiBidarit.' It ia to be hoped^ in the
I intereat of tnith, that affidirit evidence will be put an
L#nd to IB con tested pauaeSj lO that every ftc titty may
r ibe given for the croM-cxamination of deponentit not by
llkvour of the presiding judg^e^ but «8 the right of the
Lfluitor. It ia encouraging to find the Master of the Roili
fpeaking plainly upon ibe subject^ for the Equity Judaea
00 not often look with disfavour upon a ayetem m which
they have been rearedjand which aavea them trouble/' —
OloU, July 16, 1874.
The coraplaiDt is not new : —
" A defendant in Chancery having heard his aniwer
read, said. There were some things in it not true ; however^
since it wa« engrossed, be would swear it as it waa,
rather than give the clerk any trouble to alter It/' —
P« 23, Mr, AtgiWt Dtftnct upo-m ku Exputdon. from the
Bo%it ofCommontj London, 1712» 8vo,,.pp. 88.
An Inner Tkkplaii,
Oxford Cirottit.
Beer akd Wihe^ AifD Beer and Cider. — I
reeently met at table a Dative of PrusBin, who,
h&ving taken a gksa of beer, paused on being,
asked to tnke wine, and then, repeating the lines^
" Bier auf Wien,
Das las sem ;
Wcin a^f Bier,
Dai rath" ich Dir,"*
iaid, " I will take some, if you please/'
The Pmsaian maxim reminded me of the fol-
lowing fiimikr one frequently henrd in Devonshire
and Comwull :—
'* Cider on beer is very good cheer.
But beer upon cider ^s a rider/^
By a " rider '^ h meant that it does not mix with
the previous beverage, and thus produces un-
pleasiintnesa. Wm. Pbngelly.
Torquay.
WoOTON Registers, Co. Beds,— The following
curious notice of Holland, which I extracted from
f ooui» ^
the above registers whilst se^^biog for entries af
the Bedell family, may be thought worthy of a
nook in '* N. & Q/' The writer of it Is of ooun*
unknown : —
'' In Holland y Earth is better y- tlia aar.
Profit more in request y* Honour:
V^licre y'** more sense y" Wit,
more good nature y" go»d Humonr
more wealth y"* pleasure ; where a man waoJd ehuae
rather to travel y" to live : May find more tliiiigi
to observe y" desire and more pcraona to catao f
love/'
I think it was written between the J9»n 1675
and 1705. D. C, K
The Creacent, Bedford.
Sir WtLLiAit Temple.— A phmae made cuxmX
in our day by Mr. Matthew Arnold is to be mM
with in Sir William Temple's essay, eiititled^y
Fottryy where he says —
" Homer bad more Fire and BaptvM,
Virgil more Light and SweetneM.*'
The fine conclusion of the same essay is echoed is
Shelley's 8tan:sat Written in Dtjtction fMtir Napfm.
Compare the two :—
** When all ii done, Human Life ia, at the greatNt mA
the bcst^ but like a fro ward child, tbat mutt be filay'^
with and Humour'd a little, to keep it quiet^ till it falk
asleep, and then the Care is over/^
" I could lie down like a tired child^
And weep away the life of care
Which I have borne, and yet must bear,
Till death like sleep might steal on ma.'*
J. w. vt.
Beaxe : Baillie : Bai^iol : BArLi^ci..-
fact may establish a theory. The lact ia,
Scotland ray name was changed from
to **Beale/' The theoiy is, that Beale, Balll
BaMol, Bailleul, are derived from Baal. The So;
is Baal, great celestial niler ; hence Bailli,
Balivua, little terrestrial ruler ; BaiUeul, Bsflioj
Uie baillidom, territory ruled, town, place, «'
of power, or seat of government, whea0
Bailli de Bailleul, Be Bailleul, De Boliol, :
Baillie, Beale, Beal, the litentl transfor
Baal, the prototyixj. Possibly final € made '
at one time dissyllabic, as if Baily, the abbrevia-
tion of Bailiff ; but Beal became monosyUabic^^
if Beel in England, and Bail in Scotknd.
c^rpts recently taken from the Haddintrton
gistera in Edinburgh, and now before vu
my fact and partly confirm my theory.
1621, Bakie ; 1623, Bailxe ; 1624, BaiUi^^ ; j
BMlzie; 1642, Bailie; 1644, Bailke ;
Bailie; 1687, Bailive ; 1687, Bailyne ;
Baill; 1728, Baile ; 1794, Beale; 1811, Bali
and intermediate orthography, e
pricious, exemplify the transfonmit
elusion is, that, whether aa Le Ba;
The Bailiff, Do Bailleul, De Baliol,
the surname Beale implied, ab tJtit^,.,
power, and dignity. J, BsAUL ^
^MM
NOTES AND QUERIES.
187
Mt eorretpondenti desiring mfnrmation
t of only private interest, to affix their
HM lo th«ir queriei, in onkr that tb«
I iddreiMd Ui them direct.]
* UNAUTHOEIZED AKMS.
t correspondence in " N. & Q/* insiating
Qegality of persons using arras by *^ im-
I castom " only, is very annoying and
tg to many who, like my family, have long
IS wluch have never been granted by a
i|t]eg9, and whoM honour hjiB been, and
SSbtlnuous subscriber and an occasional
x>r to " N. & Q»" oi initio, perhaps I may
itted, by the mduJgence and courtesy of
7Tj to tell the little I know about the
"fleur-de-lys and chief ermine,** and to
|i thereon.
Us, Xicholas Dixon, Rector of Cheshunt»
|i arms, as above, were sculptured on a
DfatlTe brass, still to be seen on the
loor, though hardly discemible ^m age
Mt. This is the first record of the arms
on.
ft^later than Nicholas, and probably hb
John Dixon, of Furne^a Abbey,
^ who, by Anne Roos, of Witherskck,
nd, his wife, had, with two sons,
Miles, a <iftiighter, Margaret, wife of
of Uawkshead Hall, mother of
a) Edwyn, Archbishop of York,
of the *^ Barons Sandys of Om-
*of the Vine." West, in his Anti-
*, ed. 1805, p. 334, says :—
f late, in the north wiadow'' (Uawkibeiid
" there were painted \u gla^s, quarterly (as I
ined hjmn ancient perfton)^ the 3&ndya' aad
ini;t and cm a Jabcl, * William married Mar-
ti a note at foot, ' f Margaret Diion'« arms are
flfur-delia, with a chief erm/' *
^ Dr Whi taker, in his Hi^toyy of Leeds^
K •* Dixons of Heaton-Royds," &c.^ arms
^ no doubt because the fir^t Dixon in
rree was a grandson (though not so stated)
Lnd Anne, ut »upra.
7, Robert Dixon, of Dublin, son of Richard
iohop of Cork and Cloyne, 1570, by Mur-
" r, hi& wife, and grandson of William,
^n of John and Anne Dixon, ut twpra^
phcr and clerk of the Crown and Peace
and the cos. Wicklow and LoutL
ed, hb wife Maude, nit Bee,
her arms with ** sable, &c.,"
i^Liicato in Ulster^s office. This is
' of the differeneed arms of the
but the differencing? was probably
rp'f, to distinguish his progeny from the
E Dixons,
above differencfd arras to Sir Robert Dixon, Knt,
(grandson of Robert of Dublin), with the motto
** auxiliuni iiieiim ah alto/'
In 1711, died Thomas Dixon, of Little Wood-
bouse, Leeds ; and on his tomb in the choir of
St John^s Church (of which his late son. Bright,
had been incumbent), his arms are recorded by
Thoreaby as " sable, a fiower-de-lia or, and a chief
ermine,"
Having said my little "say," will some com-
petent authority kindly tell me how to escape im*
paliment on the horns of a dOemma ? Am I to
continue to perpetuate my lily, which some
Scottish ancestor very probably won on a French
battle-field, under a kinsman (Keith or Douglas),
in the fifteenth century, or, am I to discontinue
its use until I ctow rich enough to pav Boi,
more or lesa, for the distinguished nonour of being
permitted to bear it by leave from the Heralds'
College ? ** I pause for a reply."
R. W. Dixon,
8eaton Carew, West HartlepooL
Osborne Family. — The Osbomes of the county
of Waterfbrd have been an influential family there
since the reign of James L Richard Osborne, of
Knockmoane, finished building the house of Ballin-
laylor in 1619, and woa created a baronet in 1629.
The representiition of the famOy paased thrice to
heirs gen end, Lord Harberton and Mr. Ueaher of
Cappagh being heirs of the third baronet, a-i I am
of the Hflh, and Mrs. Bemal Ofiborne of the ninth:
but the male line still exists, the present being the
eleventh baronet.
The origin of this family has long puizled Irish
genealogists ; but on looking over some of the
curious impers belonging to Sir Greorge Osborn at
Chicksands Priory, I found a letter from his kins-
man John Osbom of Stackallen, made Prime
Sergeont-at-Law in Ireland by Charles II., where
be says : —
" There ii a rich numoroiu familj in the county of
Waterford in Muneter, of which Sir Richard UBhorne,
wboae father waa a baronet. U chief. But thej came
hither^ as I hafe heard, with Sir J. I>aTii, Attoraej
Geneml to King Jaioee in Ireland, and were of the wett
country in England, in which parts there are le trend of
5e namej who give for their armi, as did alio ihoea of
lorthamptonahiro, quarterly ermiae and aiure a croa
engrailed or/*
These arms were used by the Waterfbrd family
at that time, but they now use an unusual coat
ascribed to Osborne, sheriff of Dublin, who died
in 1624. father-in-law of the well-known Sir
George Sexton, secretory to the Lord Deputy.
Sir John Davis waa of Wiltshire, and his mother
is stated to hare been a Benett of Pythou<»e. I
shall feel very grateful to any correspondent who
can add to the information given in this old letter.
GORT.
Olinda, East Oowei.
iuuri
)TES AND QUERIES.
[fi*S.II.8Kpr.Bp7t
iRian BtJixa* - — Miss Edgeworth and her
father, Richard Lovell Edge worth, wrote a book
on thiB subject, and Sydney Smith a review on it.
lij there any other work devoted to the same
topic, or to the subject of bulla in gen end I Also,
ia there any work containing a hirge collection
of bulb, ftjicient and modem, in literature or
tradition,— from that early bull in Hierocles of
the matron, her son l>eing nearly drowned in bath-
ingi who threatened him with the severest chaBtise-
ment if he ventured into the wat^r again before
he hjid learnt to swim, down to the advertiser of a
washing-machinCj in these words, " Every man his
own wai<heni>07iMii*"/ C. A. Wajid.
MAjfiir.
StrPFOLE CHARTEns.— In several Suffolk charters
k,-^0f the fourteenth century, recently innpected, I
' Ibivc met with the surname "le I>enc3-s," t.g,^ Koger
\e Deneys. The K*me sumnme also occurs in the
Hundred Eolk. TVTiat does it mcfin 1 Is it another
wav of spelling k Dunou^=the Dane ?
Epic. HAM. —
*' Who ite&lf a gooBo from off a coiomon
Ifl counted for a rogue or worag ;
What should be thouglit of man nr wonuui
That e^t^ftla tbo common from the gooie?*^*
Can any of your readers give the correct version of
an epigram directeti against the encloseis of
commons, which runs somethiDg as above i
J, W. A
"Oli> Losdow Forttfioatiosb.— '^ Fac simile ' of a Ket
of 1>r*vrmi?a^ »bewing the fortification* round Londont ai
directed by the ParliJimetit in 1643, 20 pl&tes— oue a
View of Lcindon, 40 inches bj 8 inches, ahewiiig the old
walb and gati^s/*
I have cut the above from a recent .second-hand
bookseller's catidogue. I am anxioua to know
where the original drawings from whidi these fac-
similes have been executed may be seen,
CoBNUB»
Alexaxder, Lord Popham. — I hare been told
that Colonel Alexander Popham, afterwards one of
CromwelP^i Lords, received some medub from the
Parliament for his serAieea in the Commonwealth*^
cause. If so, where are they now ? Any part iculaiis
would be very acceptable for my NnmmrmM
Cromicdiiana ; oTj the MtdMic Rhf^tnj of OliiYr
CromiirlL Hesry W. Henfrey,
5, Queen Aunt's Gate^ S.W.
Leokric's MJSHAi. — Is there any reprint of
" iStis MissaJ, the MS, of which is, I believe, in the
Bodlejjui Library ] H. A. W.
Name of a Poet Waxted.— WTio is the poet
lieferred to by Mjurvell in the following aside ? —
i^ A poet indeed, by a dash of his pen, ha via j; once
ilieen the cause of a war agaimt Poland, but,'* &c.
A. B. GnoaAat.
Portrait of Thomas Paikk,— Id 77i.f Xt/f oI
Thomas i*a*HS (political writer), wriUen by hi^
friend Clio Ridcm&n, publishea IB 19, ibe *
in his Preface says : —
*' The enffra?ing of Mr. Ffune by Shirp, prefirt to iblii
work 19 the only true Ukene(f« of him ; it It trim Ijfi i
portrait by Romney, and le perhapii the great
ever taken by ati^ painter : to that omineDi
troduced bim in 1 1 92, and it wos by my eamaii yx
that ho mat to htm.'*
Can you say what has become of BotnuQr^'
painting? E. TbI7£LuV&.
2G6, High Holbom.
HfiRALDia — upon an old house tti SidRift
there was n shield bearing on a chevron. ^ -' -r -^
three bears' hmds couped and muzzled, f '
rising, with the date 1659, To what f. ..^ -
this coat belong 1 C. J, P.
"The Wild iRisnauis'.'- — Who fist gate tl« I
limited mail train frpm London to Holyhead iki> {
name? A. fi.
Cro«swylui^ Oivrestry.
Naaman, the LiTSm.— ** Tradition says Meat i
Ktmman the SjTian was the man who * drew n botr j
at a venture and smote the King of Israel/ " I
came across this note in an old MS. of mine* to- 1
day. "Where did I get this infor? ru,€C]
rather, from what source did my ii: I
E
AGraxti-tut i;titrr OF Edward HI, — I sbottld
be great I lo HKHMEUTiitrBic, or any of
your cori' , ^ who could tell me the niun
of the eldest daughter of Isabella, daughter d (Wf
Edward IIL, liTid In^T'T^ni de C<»\icy. In M»
Green's Frinr ', she is cJilW Mary,
and states! to L cd to a L>«kc olBair
But in a genealugiuii viktrt 1 myself made oui
years ago her Uiune is inserted as BnrVmrm ai
IS represented to have marrieil a < * "1
by Ibim to have been the mother o:
Emperor Sigismund. I think iVIiss r!>iriciijj
my authority. A- St
Portraits op GrsTAvnrs Adolphub ako «•
Officers.— These portraits are still prrrrrrrrfte
the Castle of 8k(ig Kloster, Sweden. J
of the artist who painted them kn
Edward Creasj*, in his Hcro*^^ of llt^ Sixcuit^i^
Cattnry, mentions that he failed to prociif© pW^
graph Ji of them. 0. S* K.
Ejihati Lodgv, Soaihgate, N.
l^LvJOR Weir, i
It i» stated in 8ir ^
Si-oituh Border ^ ed. isGl, ii..
Iftoa, that is, 13t) yeare air
sorcery, no one had btHfn 1* • i
hous^ of Major Weir, the Eii n
This house stands, or itOOd^ 1 believe, i-erv : ^
KOTES AND QUERIES.
189
^Ciyitlt* I am anxious ta know irhether it is
i in existencci and, if so, whether it is titill an*
tnluibitcsd ? CORHUB*
"TweTwa < OR** The Three EAVfiNs."
— A YnYi-Ad Ti ^e titles was printed by Sir
W.: I io the Mimtr4*tf of tU Scottish
Bin ., 1861, ii. 367-3eOr The Scottish
Tcrsiufi, ''The T^Mi Corbies/' was taken down
fpoitti tmdition. The English vereion, ** The Three
'* 1 Ravenscroft's Mdumata^ as
I RittRiD in his AiicUni Songs^
1 niiiiW b€ much obliged to any one
fh t inv attention to other versions of
uH.^L.4J, either in print or manuscript
Edward Peaooc;|c.
"Tjaj^oR : YiSAOEB*— In what connties were
Iht^ families se^ited t Amis^ ^lu a Mulmon in
fip.; rrrj, a dolphin in fease nr» Beside the
Lities of the nbove families, the diflerent varin-
' '' T ''' liases'') under which their
nm tctl. XIX.
Br{»ltrtf.
FAXES OP THE CO^IBATAI^XS AT PEILTH
IN 1396.
(5"» S. L 364, 469 ; iL C9.)
I nm aorrv thai Dr. Macphbrson do«B Eoi Gon>
icisms (i. 469) on hi^ note (L 364) as
rifilly the jxtints on which he wished
' tii>i.si. ni;cAtme unless wu can come to some
i^lisenient on these criticisiiii, or at all events have
aodae ttuderet'tr •»:"-' - ♦'• ♦>'" p-nts on which Dr.
Hactbcmon 1 Ciinnot eee that
w» afft ever 111 ^-^^ ^.. ...:,, mjain. Hia reply
to thctn, viz., that 'UUe older writers seem to have
^iMd the tenn» parentela, chn, kin, and family
^^^W^reolly;' b* not only not a reply to them at
^^P^Sbtit is acliudly & sign thitt he in to some extent
^PE^OOiViTt to my view. Thu^, on p» 365, he 8petdcB
K ^ pSTfnfftf^ ?!•* " closely allied races " and " allied
^ sfit i suggest that alliance by blood
k ti T«>d by the word parenUltr ; and
QOm > to coincide with me
hf rtnUla was used in-
dir II, liin, and &mi]y. Kow, in
ipCii ins in the abstract, we should
hf no iu-_Tiiii fM.M:i!«*arily suppose them to be allied,
«ttlwr hf Wood or othem^iie ; and therefore, if
|»ni^|ji and clan were used indilierently^ there is
na Ton*an why we should suppose the pi u ml of
fmrwni^im any more than that of dcm to indicate
•llt^tM^ I pn«unR\ therefore, that X)r. IVIac-
kwrnmrnif jeives up hi§ idea that the combatant
llaiM w#ff '* cloftoly allied " in any way.
t WttB regard to fiur being ^'almost agreed'* as
Is til* names of the parties at the North Inch^ I
can only say that w© appear to be fully agreed as
far as this — that the names given by the two con-
temporary chroniclers are Clan Quhewil and CHan
Ua or Kay. But here our agreement ends ; and
if Dr. Macphersox wUl re-peruse my reply on
page 469, especially under head 5, he ivHI ko^ ihat
there is not the femallest sign of our hat
Clan Ha was Clan Shaw, I repeat f i < 'ne
of the clans had been called Clan Sha (Gael. ikih%
its name could not possibly have been sounded as
Ha ; and (2) that the ClanShaw had no existence
until after the fight at Perth, and were not even
known generally by the name until the latter piirt
of the rnieeuth oentury.
Before proceeding to examine the portion of
Dr. Macphkrsoit's reply which has any bearing
on my criticisms on p. 469, vix., on the conneTion
which be assumes to have existed between the
battles at^ftskclune and Perth, I must renew mj
protest against the title of either Major, Boece, or
Buchanan to be regarded m in the smallest degree
authoritative or trustworthy in themselves on any
|K>int connected with the fight at Perth. Not one
of them wrote until more than a century after the
event, and all obtained their information from
either Wyntoun or Bowar. Even Bowar, the con-
tinuator of Fordun (whose work, I may state for
Dr. Mactherson's information, was printed at
Oxford in 1722, andat Edinburgh in 1769), did
not write till about half a century after the battle,
and he probably owed most of his information to
Wyntoun, who alone, hieing a grown man in 1396,
is entitled to any real regard as an authority in
this matter.
That the chroniclers should mention the Perth
fight imracdintely after the fight at Gaskclune (in
the Paid of An^iR), Dr. Macpherson admits to
be only natuml, because the one event followed
closely after the other. But, he points out^
Wyntoun refers to the disaster at Gaskclune at the
clo'se of bis account of the Perth combat, saying
that, althongh nearly all the Highlanders at Perth
were killed, there viere more of his own compatriots,
the Lowlnnders, killed—
" lu th»i day^fi irork timt was don^
Ai ye before heard at Gaekclune/*
" This reference of Wyntoun V' I*R- Macphekson
says, ** would be quite objectless if the two fights
did not stand in some relation to each other,'' — n
conclusion which to me seems very far-fetched, if
not somewhRt abBurd, For what We the facts of
the case ? Wyntoun is writing of two occurrence*
wliich hnjiji^ned within a few yettrs of each other,
both concerning the Highlanders. In the first, the
Hi-« 1 tv ^— had killed many of the J-'"' "'^-^r^ ;
in d, they killed a few of s;
arj ri mtTidy wrhes as if re^L. ,_ .hut
th< I ;ii _ ti . J Msclves had not been as
grr I wiijch \iv has, a few lines before,
described them as having made among the Law-
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[$«ka iLSxpT. 5,71
I'finders. Just in the same way, an English writer
of the sixteenth oentary might have expressed
reKTet that the lods of the Scots at Flodden wab
not eo great as that of the English at Bannockburn.
Coming now to Dr. Magphbrson^s quotation
from Bo war, whose work in the Bodleian that
gentleman my 9 has not been printed, unless very
• recently, 1 regret that I am not at present able to
- conatilt that work ; but I shall niake a point of
doing so at an early period, and of stating the
?e<9alt. As I was ignonmt uf its existence until
Dr, Macpherson mentioned it, I am, of course,
' ttnahte at present to judge as to the amount of
authority due to it, aa either an original by fiowar
himself, or a transcription by some later hand. I
therefore withhold any remarks upon it for the
present. There are two Harlcian MSS. of Fordun
and Bo war, both differing somewhat from the
original, and both the work of a Magnus Mac-
kulloch, tlie earlier bearing the date 1483. Alto-
gether, there are some seven or eight MSS. of
Bowar ; and it seems somewhat stmnge that the
lengthy passage referred to by Dil Macpheeson
as connecting the Perth light with the Raid of
Angus should have been overlooked by both
Hearae and Goodall in their editions of 1722 and
ti759 respectively.
The next authority (?) given by Dr. Macphkrson
is Buchanan, m 15B2— nearly two centuries after
the event. Without waiting to ask how Dr. Mac-
PHKRSON knows that this historian *'had before
hira all the accounts^ of previous authors" when he
wrote his own account, I would suggest that if he
hHAi all these accounts he is less to be depended
upon than ever, for it wilt be evident to any one
who may read his account with those of his prede-
cesisors that he has departed far from their sim-
plicity, and has stated things which are not to be
found in their writings at all.* Compared with
the account of Wyntoun, or even with that of
Bowar, Buchanan's beautifully written and almost
"*' tlowery " account reads like what we should ex-
pect froQi the writer of an historicfU novel In the
same way, as in the earlier chapters of his history,
lie baa put vitality into the dry bones of the fabu-
lous Scots kings, so in his account of the doings of
1391-6 he has strung together the events, detached
.and biire as they were related by the chroniclers,
^aod hiis made of them a connected nnd interesting
-*tory, the only fault uf which is that few of its details
are correct. But, as I have i>ointed out, be did
Dot write till nearly two hundred yeara after the
event which he describes, and he can no more be
regarded slh an aviJwrity for what look place than
' The first edition of Buch»iiati*i hiBtorv— /f^rttm
Scoiicantm Hutoria—vim pruitea in folio at Kdinbargh
in 1582. ThR evfltitf of Vm I1 will be found at folio 103
I flf the work, whicb h in the Hritiah Museum. A tr&uB-
^ lation, fii nearly aa po««ible literal (tlso in the British
KuMtim), woa printed at Loadao in IddO (pp. 328*5}.
can Tytler, or Scott, or any author of the present
day.
I can scarcely imagine that Dr. MjlcpBBSSOiI
would be prepared to follow Buchanan in f '
that the combatants at Perth numbered
hundred on each side.
In the h&t sentence of his communication BiuJ
Macphersok sneaks of the "ascertained ttametj
and geographical position of certainly one portioaj
of the combatantB/* t. «., Sheach and Clan Qnhewi! ; 1
but as regards the geographical position of thcae he ^
is only able to say that ** it is nearly certain thai J
they must have lived in the heights of Angus and i
of Aberdeen/* principally because in the Act uf j
1392 their names occur among certain Perthnhirej
and Dees id e names. (Dr. Macpherson will i
however, if he will ghmce again at the A'-'^ f^*
the Perthshire nnraea he quotes occur l»
leaders, while Sheach and Clan QuLe
among their followers— cUioi 9U0$ aSurentM^ ^c^i
No do\ibtf among the forces with which DutiOkal
Stewart descended on the fertile districts of Augosj
and the M earns were to be found many of the High*
landers belonging to the parts mentioned by Dr. I
Macpherson ; perhaps even these composed th* 1
bulk of the marauding host ; but at the s&me iimt
there were others firom more distant parts, suchssl
David dc Koae, or Ross, from beyond Iuvernc«,j
Stewarts from Athole, and Mathiesons and RurywO
(Mac Buari) "cum suis adhsrentibus," who, if j
from EoBs and Argyle, might have been ft-om aaT-J
where, and airaply sons of a Matthew or a Roty.l
We kiiow that Duncan Stewart suoeeeded to th«^
influence of his father, the Wolf of V: ..Uu'li.
among the Highlanders, as well as to h'-
tive propensities ; and, while it is scari
that he would appear alone among the tribes i
eastern Grampmns bordering on the Low!
and make up an army to harry the Lowlands!
from among them, it is in the highest dejzrce l
that he would he accompanied by some folio
from the central HighlandB, especially from B»d*
noch, where his and hm fathers influence
greatest. Sheach and Clan QuhewU, as I pro]
at a future time to show, were of the Chin Chalta
who, for some time before 1391, had a consid
able footing in Badenoch ; and thev ^ ' ■ im
connexion, necessarily, with the b.
and Aberdeen than had the Rofl>k.i, .:..... a is, <
Mathiesons named with them in the Act*
When Dr. Macpuzrson says that it in c f n. 1
importance, in a general sense, to kotv
Ckn Sha the Little belonged, does he nn;
of the fact that this is precisely one of tiir
points at issue I And when he H&ys that
were Shas, sons of Farquhar, in Bnie
Brae Mar, at the period in question, doesl
forget to give bis grounds for the statement I
he speaks of Shas in the plural^ I presame ha i
prove the escistenoe of more than one ; but it 1
C»* an. Sift. 5, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
191
ntber siiaDge that the sons of a person named
F&rquhftf should be known as SHaa. I am willing
to admit that a Fajqaliar MackfntoBh may have
plundered lands on Deeside io 1382, — the Mackin-
tosheft of those days were no better than, their
neighboaiv, and plundered more places than one.
And now to conclude, I observe that DiL Mac*
FitKRsoK continues to speak of the fight as on the
Inches at Perth. This ia perhaps to be regretted,
because man j readers have no doubt very properly
A respect for matters of detail, and sometimea carry
this respect so far as to judge of a writer^s whole
work or yiews by hia regard or disregard of detail.
Dn. Macphekson's last communication was, how*
eTer^ probably written curren,U ctdamo, which may
ikcoount for his continuing to apeak of the Indus,
aa weU as of the Act of 1391 instead of 1392 ; of
the Ecarl of Crawford instead of Sir David Lind-
say ; of Ckn Ouioil instead of Clan QubewO in
toe Act (for although the words are identical, the
ftrm Cktmll occurs only in an Act of 1594) ; and
of the I>uncansons aa Me U€tderji of the Raid of
Angus, when it is well known ^ and is stated by
Buchanan himself, that Duncan Stewart^ son of
the Wolf of Badenocb, was the leader, — the Dun-
canaojia* Patrick and Thomas, being only two of
iIm principal persons with Stewart, CowUr^ as
the name of a Deeside family, is no doubt a mis-
print for Cowts, or Coutts.
Alexander Mackintosh Suaw,
See Loft of (h4 Detr Forest^ hr J. S. and
C. E. Stuart, Edinburgh and London, 1S48, in
which (vol. ii, p, 472) is a long note on the subject.
George R. Jesse.
BRICAL Qttert (5* S. ii- 128.)— I think it
/be distinctly said that there is no appearance
firhatever of an oversight in the retention of the
r'*0niument6 Rubric." Mr. Tew, in examining
I Stephen's Prayer Book^ appears to have overlooked
I the fact that the cancelled rubric is in what never
I could have been meant for its riglit pkce, the
I middle of the Tables. Now if Mr. Tew will pur-
' sue his researches as far as pp. 303, 3i)4, of Stephen,
he will find as follows : —
*' Tlie /iard page of the Sealed Books is btwifc, TTie
irith n»g« commenoei with the words ' Tlic Order." The
^^ lemf forming the jKSrd and Stih pages hu been inserted."
^m From thi^ alone it would seem clear that the
^Bicibric, having got by some means into its wrong
^B|)lAce, was cancelled and reprinted to get it in its
jVtight one, i. e., immediately before Matins, where
" we have it iit present ; as is very clearly shown hj
the Bishop of Carlisle (who bases his remarks on the
LUly Sealed Book) at pp, 127, 128, of the First
\Meport of the Ritual Commiiaumers.
iut this is not all. Mb. Tkw need not of course
reminded that though the Sealed Books are
called the standard, yet the last appeal
mtist be to the actual MS. Prayer Book itself at-
tached to the Act of Uniformity. This, it is well
known ^ was for a lon^ time considered lost, but at
last discovered in the manner explained at the
reference (p. 128) given above. There it ia said —
*• An inspection of this MS. Prayer Book has proved
that 'The Ordor^' kc, is identical ia all respects with
that which \a ordioarily prefixed,"
And yet further, if Mr. Tew would Imve ocular
demonstration, he may have all that can be had
short of the original itself by referring to the
Ftyurik of the RiJhLol ReporU, pp. 1 d seq. There
it is said, —
*' The existing Rubncs In the left-hand column are
printed exactly from the MS. Prajer Book.**
And at p. 9 stands " The Order," ^c, exactly
as, and in the very same place where, we have it
now. In this last court of appeal there is no dis-
crepancy (so to say) of any kind whatever — ^not
the least pretext for attributing any sort of " over-
sight " to the editors of our Prayer Book.
Charles F. S. Warrek, M.A.
In reply to Mr. Te w'a queTT, " Was this rubric
intended to be omitted at the last reView, but left
remaining by an oversight ? " I would say that it
is simply impos^^ible that this matter was an over-
sight. If it had been an oversight, the rubric would
be identical with the rubric in the preceding edition
of the Prayer Book. It ia not so, it is made more
explicit Aft it formerly stood, a question might
have been raised against any or all of the orna-
Tuents of the roiDiater, e^g,, surplice, vestments,
&c. As it BOW stands, no such question can be
raised with any show of reason. On such subjects
a most uiieful book for Mr. Tew to consult is The
Book of Common Prayer of 1636, with the Altera-
Hotu made by Convocation in 1601, Photographed
by Sir Henry James's process, folio, 1871. Pub-
lished for Her Majesty's Stationery OHice. Such
questions are there answered at a glance.
B, M, PlCKBRINO.
1 have examined the officially certifie<l copy of
the Sealed Book of Common Pniyer, preserved in
the library of the Cambridge University, and I
find the Ornaments Rubric, whith is placed be-
tween the " Table to find Ezister" and the "Kalen-
dar," cancelled as in Sir A. J, Stephen's edition ;
and it evidently is so because it occurs again, un-
cancdM, immediately before the Order for Morn-
ing Prayer. Stephen^s edition of the Sealed Book
is quite correct in this particuIfU". Although it is
canceUcil on page 184, Mr. Tew will find it given
on page 3<>4, in the place where it is usually printed
in the modem editions of the Prayer Book.
E. V.
The PRfVATE CORONERSHIPS OF EnOLAKD (5'*
B. ii, 1211/)— The following passage from Jervis,
fM tJte Qjfi^e atid Duty 0/ Cot<rtv,«nf*,\It^ii^ e<!)^\Qfa^
TES AKD QUERIES.
[y»8,aS«iT.5^7k
p. 3, gires nn occcmnt of coroners vho hold thdr
po»U by charter or c^DmmissioD, not by right of
electioQ or virtue of office : —
" Coroners by ch»rt«r, commiBdoo, or prfyilege, are
tboi© within pariiGular libertiea »nd fmnchiisB^ OTtr
which tho IdmU, or he&da of corporationf, nre empowered
ht oharitr to Mi tb«nfilT«s» or to create their own
Cforoners. The Crown taaj dJum thii privikgc by prc-
■cription, but the frwicbi«e i«Qf so high a mture tbat no
subject can cl&im it otherwise than by a grant from the
Grown. Thii prbilcg« ii expreealy exempted from the
operation of tb« Statute 'JM Bdw. 8,0. tJ, which confirmed
to the county the power q£ electing Coronen, and from
thai of the subeequent etatutea relating to the election of
county Coronert * and therefore the <jueen, within certain
preeincte, and tn« lords c*f franchisee, in all causes in
which they were before the passing of the act em-
powered to nominate and appoint their own Coroners,
may, not with itandinff the proriuona of those statu tes^
exerttJie the Mmc authority at thia day»
**Tbuji the Mayor of London is by charter Coroner of
London ; and the Cinqut Portia from their great an-
tiquity, hiiTc their own Coronor. The Dean and Chapter
of Westminster hsTe their own Coeontr, who by their
appointment is Coroner for the city and liberties of West-
Ini»4t'^n So, likewise the Bishop of Ely has power by
charter to mikke Coroners in the isle of £ty ; and in the
stannaries in Cornwall the AYardens are Coroners. The
matter of the crown office, or clerk of the crown, is
Coroner of the Queen's Bench, and has jurisdiodlQn
over matters arising within the prison of thai oonrt.
He holdi his o8!ce by letters patent under the great eeaL
In addition to which there are many exclusive jorisdic-
tioQd and corporations for which Coroners are appointed/'
Mabel Pkacock.
Bottesford Manor, Brig;g.
These privileges still exist. The Crown and
cert^iin lorda of franchises, having a charter from
the ( 'rown for tbn.t purpoae, mny uppoint coroners
for certain precincts by their own mere grant,
bout election. See 23 & 24 Vict,, c. 116,
ct 9. I should recoiUDiend Mr. Wkbb to con*
'salt Comyns's IHgeitf title " Oflicer/' g.
Middle Tkmplab.
Bradford.
The I>e Hoghtons, BiiTonet«, are coroners for
their M:mor of Walton le Dale, and exercise the
right by a deputy, F. P.
Fathkr Kghble (5<* S, ii. 44, 02.)— The fol-
lowing interesting account of Father Keonble will
be new to many of your readers. It occurs in
Bishop Challoner^a Memoirs of Musionary Fricsts^
ed. 1^3, vol ii. pp. 411-414.
" On the same day aa Father Wall was executed at
Worcciter for his priestly character, and his relitrion,
Mr. KemMe. a priest of the secular clergy, suJTert'd at
ITr ' '■ T ^ ' r the fame cause. He was eighty Years old,
*^* a *hort prmted account I ha^fo of him* and
^' - ; riest and a missioner, in a great variety of
tinji:*, Jou3 -and*fifty year*. I find in the diary of Douar
CoDcge, anno 1625, John Kimble, of the dinceso o'f
Hereford, ordained pneit tho ^Hrtl of FcV ^'injj
his first nia« the 2nd of M&rch, and tho
BYiglish mission the 4th of June, wherr icncc
ma hi bis nativa county of Herefordshire. In the
miseion he waa always eateeaed ft veir pietta and 1
labourer. The following account of hlmwvaai
fromawf'Tt: u kiiig|diintt«t
from the i] 1 i known him :— J
**'! have liiiiL^c: iMt L,,„ .U.J..XX.,. . could ^«t^:
Kemble ; what 1 could learn from those wbof
knew hiTn. h n^ fnllow? — He was tnk*Mx at
Caatk- •" He
byCi hei
of s..^' ......^ ^. --- but ^
acccjj coune of nature he had but 1
to h\\ V it would Ke ftn adrautago to luia 1
solFer tur liia r**ligioo i Tore, he wcNild Bat I
scond. Ha waa comn 1 ereford gaial ; mh
after some time, he wa5< -to Lon^lon. »vn<! il
remitted back again, to iaka hiA trial I
that journey he suffered more than a a* 1
account of a great indiflpoiitioii he had^ ^ui« d wtmid h
permit him to rida but lidawai^ ; ind it WM 00 huMm-
back he was compaUad to perform the jotmity, at lagt
great part of the way. After hi 1
gaol, he was frcouently Ti&ited l y
children* whom r •- " ? ^rith vr^n.^.^. *.v «.*- . .
was good, sent li i tinds ; and being mtkt4, v^h?
he graTG all to t snade answer, bttCMM tk»a
father was the bcit friend he had in the world.
** * He was executed on Wigmaxah, by Hereford. Uk
headway c^i^ • '^ ^'^ body was V -^'''i liv Kik Ti»i>titw,
Captain Ri Ic, who put nH^
it to Wclf- ; uricd it in i^t^.
and erected n t^iub over it. SoDU' tiiut : evrl
that CJaptftin Scudamore's dauiihter In • -v
throat, which was apprehended dangt
adri«ed by a devout Catholic, who had pre^r ■
in which ft^. Komble was hanged, to put t
her neck, upon the application of it she waa iimucam "t
cure J. 8oTiie neigh bour'mg Catholics resort to his t<'itJ'
on thv 22nd of August, the day on which he toffered, tc
pay iheir devotions: once I myself being preaent, aiti\
three or four of the family of U , and eotaa oth<n.
Mr*, '' ' i^cudamore, who for some tiiv * * '
extr;i fif, und at that time waa
some ^.f which she could not be HI f
by reaftua of har deafness, stayed at her pra>c:i by ?
tomb, after tlie rest of the company were retired for tK<.r
refreshment to an inn, not <"•- '>-'- »> - ->■""-** vru-l.
and when she came to thern. ' \^A^ee
recoTcred my hearing ; nnd < ■'^''
aa any one in tho company* Tlicse ivre - »'
I could learn, more than that he waa rJ
zealous good luiisioncr.' So far my ri^. 1 - . . ■
respondent. The following speech wa* published ia
print not long after Mr, Kemble'i execution.—
" ' Tk« Itut tpteeh of Mr, John Krmhl< , n cltmmA ,
he fftale i» the cart upon f>Vjjwai#A, }^jf Hir^'ard,
A%i'jiiit 22, WW.
*' * It will be expected T fhon!d «ny something: W ••
I am nn old mjin, it c 1 not having tfff
cernccm in the plot, r <'llefitt|| tl«l* w
ativ niiti'4 rinsl Ik'.i]! cWnre m* wUh
I beir ttf Mil whvttt I Uiivc '
word, or deed, to forgive rn
all those that hare been m-nu mhiluh^^ ^u u -i^vu* ui *u;
dcJith.'
** Th«n iomftiig to the cxeeultoner. he took blm bv (^
band, and calling him hy hit naine ff^m ^wMei^
Jfa
rg.U.8vT.6,74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
193
[ Anthony, 1$ n^ a/raid ; do tk^ 9^Ut,
I with nli mjf ktartf thou mti do me a grtaitr
on d\McourUiv, Then be drew bia cup orer
» ind after & little meditation upon his knees, &nd
; hmts^'tf up to Almighty God, oe told them^ they
■<^ct when they pletised. In conclasion,
ice repefttcfdj with great ferrour, those
J handij 0 LiJtd, I ammend my tmrit, the cwrt
iwn ftw«y» and he hnaged at least half an hour
» be wai quite dead, the Jmet of the rope not bebtfr
)' apfilicd ; though tbis, as it ]£ belieTed, bappeoed
er by accidet^ than deiign. The Protetlanta that
t ipe^tort of the exit acknowledged that ibej never
one die eo like a gcaUeman, atid bo like a CbnstLan/*
Challoner says that ho derived his info rmat ion
om **Mx. Kemble's printeti speech, the Douaj
■*** -*^-l the testimonies of those that knew him/'
Edward Peacock.
iLADtVEDVSA w 1090 (5** S. i. 4(>6.)— Tn Sir
* m Inj rii.'hv'g JmtTtial of a Voyage into iht
in 1628, printed by the Ciimden
^Ifind:—
'We were all day becalmed in m^\\i of the Island
ftnft««o. By tbie iifand is another litlc one called Lam-
:. which dwelt no pertons (according to the
by some of my men tbat had bin there
mcs with the Turkey), but there i^ a lampe
kUy btinuDg. The Turkes beare great re Terence
placet and atlwayea leave oyle or bread, or some-
Td them {through demotion), but they know
Om ; and it hath proTe<l very fatal! to oarry
log from thence, aa well to ChriBtLans aa to
lr«f, only one may safely water there/*
flich rrmntip informntinn nbout thia isknd
ufc on ttid"
i Hey wood
_lit;, m A^Licii ho endfiivour* to ulentify Lam-
pedttBa with Prospero's Island. H. ^\. B.
Sluprwrcck of Ro^ro, the Pagiui King of Sicily,
tlte lakud of Lipadosa^ between the town of
tea and Malta, and his conversion to the
an faith by the unod hcrnnt, who liyed
Ittring the reign oi ' /ne : —
_k ffom tlie tossing eu J i ven's oomroanda,
[Jpmi the dreary cliff Eogero aLiiid* :
Around tbe Mrage shore he roll* liie eyea ;
Anti. K(fe itoiij !.ea. Mfw Ct'iirn >>y land arisc:
Ttu lire coast to lie
1 ab&re,
! ^91
^ C"j>^fgiw» thnf. with tt^p* ♦ftdittA jind »low,
*FCTr iRurrt, juujjier, luiu iu^iljc" i^reen,
With spreading paJm*trees, grn I y scone ;
Whose mingled shade a liquid I 4s,
That down the rook tta munnunn^ u-urrtnt leada<
Near forty years had past since fint the sire
Forsook each worldly pleasure, to retire
To this re<3«9a, where, by his Saviour blessed,
Hfli led hit days in purity and rest.
For wholesome food the gather d fruits he took ;
To quench iih thirst be sipp'd tbc crystal brook;
And BtroTiff in bealtb, and free from care and stril^^
He reached the extremest verge of human life."
Book XX. OfUmdo Furiosoj by Ludovico ArioEto>
tianslAted by John Hoole.
Was Rogcro, the Pagan Prince ol Sicily of the
poet ArioHto, who died a.d, 1533, the one of timt
Qjime to whom EdrLssi's^* great geograohicai wofk,
called after him Kitdb E^tgiojr^ or Boolt of Koger,
is dedioited ; and what accounte are obtainable
in the Mediterranean regarfling the good hermit
of Lipndosa, and the battle described in the Or-
lando Furioso as having been fought on that
island % E,
Skeeziko (4^ S. ii. 4.)— Allow me to quote two
passages from Greek classic writers in illustration
of sneezing being considered a lucky omen. One
of them is from a poem of veiy hoar antiquity,
namely, the Odyucy of Homer ; the other from «^
rutber more recent production, the Anahem^ d
Xenophon : —
"n? t/>aTo' TrjkifLa)(os Si. fdy hrraptv" dfiif}i Sc
(TutpSaXiov Koi'ot/^r/o-e* yiKa<rtr€ <5e ni;v<Ao7r<ia*
ai\I'a 8* (xp Kvftawv *ir€rt Trre/weiTa Tr/Kjwi'^a*
E/);yc«> ILOL, Tov ^ctt'ov ivnvTtov tSoc KdAeo-fro*'.
ot;^ opar^^t o ftot vlo^ cTrcTrra/Jc iraa-LV c^-co'O'ti';
Tfji K€ KuX ovK areX^s Oavaro^ fii^icrrrjpfTi
ytVOLTOr
Trda-i udk\ (ivSi k€ Ti5 Odvarov Kol Kijpas
aAv^ou
Odyttm Bk, xtU* line 641 d <*;?.
And^— ^^
rovTO Oc kiyoiTo'i aiVov Trrdpi^vrm rts^ a*cov-
cratTC? ^ ol (rrparmTfU irui^i^ fiia op^^ TrpofTtr
Kv%'T}Q-av Tuv ntnv,—Aniibans^ lib. iii. c. 11, 1>.
See also **K & QJ' 1«» S. vlii. 121; v. 364,
51X), 572, 599; viii. 3G6, 624; ix- C3, 250; and x,
451. Jomf PicKJ-oRD, M.A,
Newboime Keotory^ Woodbridgt.
In India, nt the present day, one mav obser^'e
thi 1 of the cross, which a Hindu makes
sb ince to sneeze while performing his
mornmpTH ;ir>iution3 in the Gauges. Hav?'" - ^ - ^p^d
his forehead) nose, cIuUt and cheeks, v p
of Ir +^- ' - \^" -f ' -^TtienceH bin pra)ti.. i* .... tUa
ver I do so nts oftx'n as they are
inh ...i. tuition. I have read some-
will ont Romans made oblations to
the ^-^ J^g* ^^*
* Edristi, vol. h p. C^ D^Herhelot, EVU\«^3aJtmsi^
Orientalei 4to., 1?27*
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[5*8.n.8«rt5/Ti.
Et1HK3»K DE SlLHOUKTTE (5^^ S. \L lOO*)— The
ei^BCt title of £tienne de Silhoaette^s work as given
hj Quc^rard (La France lAUdraiTt, Paris, 1838)
lA —
" Idee g^n^r&Ie du gouTememeni ct de la mortle det
Chinois, tir^e p&rttcuHensment des ouTiuges de Conf uctus,
«i r^ponse h troU crUiques. 8«c. ^dit., Porit, Q%%UaM^,
1781, iii.l2/'
M. Qu^rar«l Ls good eDoagli to add —
** La prenderc edition, pubU6e en 1729, m Ten/trmi pat
i$t ripontM avjT criiiquea*'
The Biographie Univerulh says : —
'' Cette Mi don [1731] cit iiugmoiit6e d'une r£p<)n8« de
Tnuteur h troie critiques qui av&knt p&ru da son Vim.
L'ouTTSge n'eat qa'tm eztraii assez mperficiel des 6crit<
det muMionnairea sur la mtune m&tiere et dei trftductionB
l&tines <iu'i1s Arnioat doniiecs des lirret de Coofuciug et
4e ftes disciples."
Sparks Henderson Williams,
Keoaingtou CreBcent, W.
"Little Poems," &c. (5*^ S. ii 110.)— Mr.
Bower will fiod the poem in the Lfrical Ballads
-of Wordsworth, N.
*^ Gipsy Queen" (5"» S* ii. 110,)— Carmen i
iiOiidea to the recitative and air, "Rage, thou
juigiy stomi " in The (Up^y's IVaTning^ muaic com-
posed by Sir J. Benedict. W. Phillips.
Joanna Southootb (5*** S. ii, 68.)— There are
Bereral places, both in town and country, where
the Soutncotians assemble. They call themselves
" Christian Israelites," and they observe the Jewish
Sabbath, and follow in many instanceB^ such as
selection of food, the Mosaic Law. They dress in
drab, and have clothes somewhat resembling those
of the Quakers. But the wearing of beards dis-
tinguishes them from members of the Society of
Friends* One of their leading and most learned
ministers used to be, and may be still, the editor
of a popular weekly periodical, N*
Alderman Sir William Staines, Knt. (6^
S. il 124.)—
^* A Pftvlour and a Stone-mason made a fortune
honorably, and marned bis cook-maid.
" His mannerM may be judged from the following
anecdote. At a city feast, when Sheriff, sitting by
General Tarleton, ho thus addreftaed him : ^ Eat away at
the pines, Geiiemi, for vre must pay all the eame^ eat or
not eat ! '
** Ho was Sheriff in 1797."
The above I copy from a curious work (second
edition, LSCM))^ called—
" City Biography. Containing Anecdotes and Memoin
ef the Rise, Progrcsa, Situation, end Character of the
Aldermen, kc, of the City of London."
H. s. a
LivY (rt^ S. ii. 128.)— The following quotation
from Smith's IHdi&tianj of Grtek and Mommi
Mythology fiurniahea a reply to the query of
Omega i—
n
"Spurilia Oenir only known from coini for the
Snurilius, whose name oecnra as a tribttne in taam
edittona of Liry (ir. i% is in all the more modem eMana
3p. Iciliua."
K. P. D. E.
The Sctlly Isles {5^ S. ii. 129.)— (l^
Bevan, editor of the Herefoixl Mappa Mun
date of which he supposes to be 1275),
thus on the word SHlla: —
" We have to notice a SvUU off the lOutbetA ptnai of ^
Ireland, which may posaibly hare some refercDec to theli
SciUy Isles."
He derives the name from ScyUa, the famed lock
between Italy and Sicily.
(2.) William Botoner, commonly i'' ' "'^ tliam
of Worcester, thus mentions the Sci n his I
ItintTariuvi site lihir memortibilirim ^r ttt. ^r. in
viaqio de. Bristol tuque ad mofUtrnf SL Michadii
(dated 1478):—
'^Apparicio Sancti Michaelis in monte Tumba antes
Tocatale Hore-rok in the wodd; et fucrunt tarn boacoi
quam prata et terra arabilis inter dictum montem e*
insulas Syllye, et fuerunt 140 ecclesi» parochlales iofcef
iitum monte Di et Sylly snbmerte.'*
See Mailer, Giips, LiL 344. A. L. Mathxw.
Oxford.
■SUM
*
Supposing Scilly to be an accommodation*
corruption of the Latin word SiluTU, the na
given to these inlands by Solinus, we fiist
with it in Tacitus— as far as my reading 9tsrf»
mG—{Afm. xii. 32), applied to certain counties in
South Wales. Silurus^ from StAorpo«, moat-
bably the derivation, meaning a kind of ri
— some authorities say the chad — it is not
that both these localities took their iism««
the fact of their rivers beii^ especially fAmooi
this kind of fish. Edmukd Tew, 3LA.
Haddenham Church Bells (.5** S. ii. 147.)
The square device on the sixth bell of Hnddc
Church, consisting of a Latin cross between ti»1
inttialB " G. O.,^' surmounted by a cresceut and » J
star, is the mark of George Oldfield, a bell-foander |
of Nottin^^rliatiL George Oldfield the elder^ who i
cast many bells that are still extant in Nottingham* I
shire, Derbyshire, .and the adjacent count iea» wisJ
the first to adopt this mark, the crescent and fctar,l
which appear in the municipal seal of Nottingham,
being symliolical of that town. He flourished about
the middle of the sixteenth century. He wn*
succeeded by his son Henry Oldfield, who ined
the same mark, except in the sul>stitution of *'' H*"
for " G." The earliest beU bearing hb nmrk h«
the date 158J>. Henry Oldfield was, in his tuni, .
fiuccee<lcd by his son George, the founder off*
bell in Question, who naturally i- '
mark to liis grandfather. The lat
his mark is said to beat Crosswell !>.-.:..,, -^ 16
and the earliest at Bunny, in 16:^0.
J. Charles Cox.
H axel wood, Belper.
8*R1LB»».5.7tl
NOTES AND QUERIES.
195
I
I
I
t
** ABSE3ICB," BY Dm DoNKK (5^ S. iL 85.)— See
tlut poem In the Fuller Worthies' Llbrarj edition
of the complete Poems of Bean Bonne, with
rebtive notes (vol ii. pp. 238-9, 360).
A. K Grosaet.
SoUGS IK **EoKEBY*' (5*^ S, L 428, 515 ; ii.
115.)— "A weaiy lot is thine," canto iii. stanm
xxTul ; ^* Allen-a-dale/* c&nto iiL aUnza kxx. ;
** The harp/* canto v, stanza xviiL ; and ** The
CaTftUert" canto t, stanza tx.^ were all set by
Maiwei, second Marchioness of Northampton,
but I believe were never publiBhed. In the same
MS. collection Is a ietting of ** Brignall Banks,''
**,ij#,.T..,] frv.rji Biahop^s set by Lady Compton"
(Lo': impton), from which I conclude that
it ^♦J^ |^.„!j.. Ued to music by Sir H. Bishop. There
WM abo a setting of the " Cypreas Wreath/' canto
T. stanza xlil. ; but I cannot at this moment find
it» 8o I do not know whether it was by Lady
Hofthanipton, or by her sister, or from some other
•Oltroe. A setting of the song ^* Summer's eve is
eime and past^'^ canto v. stanza Tii« ix.» as a glee
for three voices^ by T, R. Hobbea, was published
by Robert Birchall, 133, New Bond Street, with-
Ottt date. A. CoaiPTON.
" Chribttanity A8 Old as this Creation," &c
(5*^ S. il 149, 175.)— The author of this book, Mat-
lliew Tindal, LL.D., was the son of a DevonEihire
clergynuin,«nd an uncle of the Rev, Niclioks Tindal,
ih^ tiansktor of Raptn's Histmy of England. After
taldag bis degn^ at Ox/oid, he joined the Church of
Home, which, however, he soon left. He was the
aothor of numerous controversial works, but h now
chiefly remembered by the one above named (the
fiiat edition of which, by the way, was published . not
in 170<>, OS stated by E. J., but in 1730), and by
his Hi^hti of thf Chrtitian Church as$ertal tufainal
thf, Motnuh and all other FritsU (8vo., 1706),
Dr. Watcrlnnd wrote a reply to the former (en-
titled Scripture Vindicated, &c.), but it seems to
liave been more distinguished by abuse and ex-
BffBWttOns of contempt for the unknown i^Titer than
for «oundnes« of argument. At all events, it was
severely handled in a Letter to Dr, Wattrland^ by
Cony ens Middieton, who exposed at considerable
length the injustice of many of Waterland's
[e«, and then, after havinc, to a great extent,
lish(>d the criticisms of his antagonist, went
teach him how he ought to have dealt with
t, concludiM hit letter with a masterly
nf tisc" rv^alTv we^ik nolntn in Tindurs
-^^ ! the work
avo, ii red unjust
i, and to expoiie tbe erron* of so eminent a
T orthodoxy as Wnterlaud, seems to
I more notice than bin own refutation
vhicli Watcrland had overlooked, so
he shortly afterwards found it necessary to
publish a second letter in order to defend himself
from the charge of favouring an attack on revealed
religion. Frbd. NoRGATJk
lit Bedford 8tr«et, Covent Garden*
Matthew Tindal was about seventy- three when
he published Chrutumity at Old 09 tht Creation z
and when he died^ in 1733, he left a second
volume in manuscript, by way of general reply to-
all his answerers, the publication of which was pre-
vented by Gibson, Bishop of London. One
hundred and six answers are said to have appeared
by 1700, and Farrar (Crit Hi^t. of Free Thouoht)
remarks that it was the book to which more thaii
to any other single work Bishop Butler's Analogf
was designed as a reply.
Sparks Hendersost WiLLiAMa.
Kensington Crescent, W.
l^Iatthew Tindal is referred to by Voltairo^
in his LetiiT io tht Princt of WaUs ccnctmin^
those Persom who Jiave Ijttn Accused of AUack-
ing the Chrinttan Religion, It b said he left in
MS. a second volume of tliis work, but it has
never been published. Ellcsb.
Craren.
" British and CoimKEKTAL Titles of
Hokour" (5*^ S, ii. 23, 95.)— Middlk Templar^
in denying that it is "a vulgar error to suppose
that a commoner may not be noble," has fallen into
the equally ** vulgar error *^ of confounding iJo^tiic^
(or peerage) nobSity with nobility of blood. How
can the son of a nobleman be leas noble than his
father? He may not possess the political privi-
leges enjoyed by the father, and, therefore, not
being the " peer ^' of a Lord of Parlianient, he is
only, in the eye of the law, " the peer of any com-
mon juryman,'* but how does this affect his real
nobility? As Meddle Templar quotes Coke,
allow me to remind him that the lame great
authority says, " Every Gentleman must be arma-
gei-eiu^ and the best trial of a Gentleman in blood,
which 18 the lowest degree of nobility^ is by bearing
arois" (2 Irutit. on tlu StaL of Addiiiont). In the
opinion of any herald a gentleman of blood, being
already noble, cannot be further ennobled by
being raised to the peerage, though his fank and
privileges are thereby au men ted. Blackstone,
who quotes Coke, that ** Commoners, &;c., are in
law peers in respect of their want of nobility," a
few lines further on speaks of the gentry as an
order of ** inferior no6t7{f 1// ' and also decides that
Irish peers* are by law esquires (and, therefore,
fommoners). From these fi^ts it is evident that
both C*oke and Blackstone meant (though I fully
tidmit they have expressed it badly) that the Lords
of Parliament were peers in respect of their poli-
tieal nobility (i. e., right to an hereditary seat and
all the privileges attached thereto), and that com-
• This was vn E^a^^^Ti^ bt Jwt ^^^ ^ws^k.
196
NOTES AND QUERIES.
moners, whethei' nobte or othenrise, were peers
of &aioh other by reiia<>ii of their want af it.
In France, the old nohhsse^ v?hoae anct'atore were
Eeers 6f that country, have never lost their no-
ility* though they no longer poaaesa political
privileges ; and should, unfortunately^ any Eoglish
statesman^ after " thinking ihriee ** on the subject,
deem it expedient to abolish our Upi^er House,
and Kucccfd in doing so, our Lords would not be
ieais noble, though then only politically immaQturs.
Sytban Lodge, South«»te, N.
Your correspondent's remarks on the maimer in
which pewons, not members of the Houfl€ of Lords,
are tried when charged w^th Mony^^ are beside the
<^ue8tion- Sir Edward Coke's judgment on the
point iii conclusive as to the opinion of hia own
day, and has never, I believe, been seriously called
in question. He says, "Every Gentleman must
be armagzrtns^ and the best trial of a Gentleman
in blood (which is the lowest degree of nobility) is
by bearing of arms-" Then, after quoting Juvenal
and Cicero as to the customs of the Bomana, ho
continues, "In these days the rule is Nobiles sunt
qui insignia Gentilicia generis sui proferre possunt."
^IiuiiL Part II., ed, vi. p. ()G7.
Mabel Pejloocc
Boitesford MAnor, Brigi^,
Akchee Family (5«* S. ii. 21, 94.)— Thomajs !e
Archer, parson of Elmsett, co, Sutf-, and Richard
his brother, were aoua of Archer of Tanworth
(Umberslade), co. Wan-. This fact is fully estab-
lished by the authorities given in MS. additions
to MemoHah of the Surname Arcfur (Brit. Mus.).
The arms in Thaxted Church — " ermine, a cro«8,
uable" — to which Mu. Golding* refers, are those
of the distinct family of Ik Boy*, whereof was
Simon de Boys, esquire to Henry V,, whose sur-
name, by special royal eommand, under the king^s
seal (etiU preservedt), was changed to that of
ArdicT, (See remarks on this subject in the
Herald and Gmealogid.) Early last century
these two families of Archer were connected by a
marriage, fully explained on a handsome monu*
ment in the church of Hale, near Salisbury.
The arinoriid seals of the early Suffolk and
Norfolk Archers still exist, and have been descril>ed
elsewhere.
I may observe, m pasiant^ that there is a w^ork
on Derbyshire (the reference to which is amongst
Archer M8S,, Brit. Mus.) in which a curious
error may be noticed, as regards the arms of these
two families.
There was a very early coioiexion between the
* I shonld liks to draw Ma. Goldtng's attention to
the ooiacidetice timt thore ii recorded ia B&rbivdoa tlie
wUl of a Mr. Qolding Archer early last century. Who
was ho?
f 8, P. 0.
Domfront Archers'**^ and Essex.
notes on Ordericus Vi talis : ** Kec^
Domsday," and the rKlnts »eal of
Hare, the animal, ^*cher'*^ — is-^^r
additioD>s Ui Dugdales irant'i.
Lastly, advertinfT t) H. C
observations on tli«
ward Archer, of Bi
ready to admit that
lineai^e, in the work :
satisfactorily disposed of, uad, imieeii^ nixitirdy
over-ruled. R. C/a nr^nnicnt* convitt«*¥» nr*^ ;
on looking into the >> ' i '
is additional evideni
As tniffi is the object (►! i^ene u< guni
one need not hesitate to admit an error.
Autograph of BrRNs (6*^ B* i 283 ;
72,)— On Thursday, I8th June, 1863» 1 atli
a sale of books, autographs, &c,, at Branch'!
tioo Rooms, Hanover Street, Lirer|ioo!. At
the books were many ape
Ja4^.obit€ IMici, Tht r^v
bald's ChroiiicU o/ >^
0/1715, Patten-si?<
of 1745, Currie's eduivjii vt iinrii-
the autographs were "No. 90, 1:
fuU poem in Author's Iwndwritin^jj, u) i
on his Birth-day/' "No. Dl" (*t>, oltiion
lowing), *' a Leaf out of a Ladies Pocket"
with ^IS. Epijframs, by Burn?, om of iken^i
pithUshed" ^'No. 98, A Copv ni r. P.u.m
Syme, certified in BuruBs hiui
I find that I have hastdy wj r iie time cc
the back of my catal<^guc, which i have now be-
fore me : —
**Tlii« WRS the wle of tho books, «utographt. ke.,9(^
Mr Maxwell, nephew, or sou, I believe, to the MaxirtU
of Termugbty, tw whom Bums uddreased that poen, sod
hence the »utt:>graph8 of Bums."
I have also copied tL ' — he tm-
published, and which d ^ill
agree with me does not hn tv ^'^ i n. un —
" Grant me, indulgent Heaven, that I may Utc
To sec the miscreants feci the jfains they gife :
Deal Freedom's sacred treaaurcs free m air,
TiJl Slave and Despot be but thingi that were,"
—the reference being, I presume, to slavery*. Till
first lot^ ** n6^" was sold for 205. ; the sccund faj
18*, M.; the purchasers I do not know. I g»^
15«. for the third, I have no doubt, on mmp
the words "To Mr. Syme fiom tin : '
the writing of an undoubtedly if
Burns in my wife's collect i^
March 2, 1788, addressed to '
Sylvander), that these woru- v
Burns. It wa^, I belie vcj stated
the words written in a tliird hand, , ..,
2, fo. 285," were in the writing of Cun-ie, i
^ I issame them to hare been fdenUes!.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
197
feed tkrougli his hands when preparing hk
pQ of Bums, which I do not possess, and,
"^ore, cannot say whether they refer to the
'. c^py or not, WiL Jacksox,
FiCsiTLiAn Treatme^tt or Boms Woftns in
^ABSnrO > ! TO A NOT]
fM7 1 ii. ' frequent 1
'ill, in pfta^aii,^ from
II known j and your
iinerans examples of it.
ri any lUlusion to thut
"'^ • which is pncKluced
'W this is, aod to be
, 1 ^w.. merely mention one
ULtnge, which, amongst many
id in the Teme Valley district,
is the change produced by the aJteriition of
i" to *Hhttn/' which is common with the
wh«ii speaJdng of things nod
* •'U* hup i* thun orchard but.*'
*■ Arter u2 fell tbun oak, ul fall thun Mh/'
* lae Agwain to liU thun hule hup sur/*
This habit, when applied to numea of places
I, conyert^, in the course of yeurs,
ijsiines of the Orchard, the A^b, the
tiwi iiw Hole farms, into the m*^aniugkss
xling ones of the Norcburd, the Njiah, the
6, and the Knoll farms, by which names they
now known ; the last-named farm, by its
*^d designation, forcing those unacquainted
local dialect to the supposition that there
bere been sope convuliiion of nature, causing
Btnerly (by inference) upheaved knoll to bo
> hollow, far below the level of the ground
'og. I could multiply examples of the
'^Hct of the dialect of tLit quarter, but, as
is valouble, Butlice it to say those who
ions in the matter will find plenty of them
reference tt> Graniky Crrang^ (Tinsley
b), in which work I have carefully repro-
them. I should say, however, tnat the
of "the" to "thun" in peculiar to the
fewest, or Herefordshire side, of the valley ;
when it h heard on the north-east,
er^hire side, the speakers are invariably
men who have come there, or people
such men have long associated,
too, 13 confined to words beginning
,a,and/i.; and m by dialect (wood, ^ood).
in that locality for many yeara — during
Ftote I waa brought professionally into daily
the working clashes — I was enabled
difference ; and I obnerre the distinc-
I tJie works referred to. In G^rnvtltij Granfjii
nn'* is not once named, the lomlity hciug
Sii ■ ■ ' ■ ' -'' invari-
But in -^ 1 see the
i H ift in €«<"«. snstancM --up i nimi ^x^d wi'
thun esses," iSLc, the locality being aonth-weat;
a distinction which will, I expect, make the critics
fall foul of me for ** careless writing," but I prefer
to cliance a cutting up to being locally inaccumte.
The only other peculiarities not common to both
aides the valley, are (south-west) "uz*' for he's
and her's— hiij being '*his," and her "bur"; "ul"
for he 'II and 1 11 ; and the excess of phrase, *' how-
sumbe howivir," ** ho wivir on it possible," *' may-
hap an mebbe," &c. The extra o (goo\ and a
(waant), the * f«>r e (nivir), the e for i (* ^' ' Tie
a for ** I " and ^* he/'~except w*hen cui u
'* I " and "be/* — being tised alike by Ilrit ■ MMiMiiio
and Worcestershire men ; as also the excessive use
of negatives: *'a dunna not lo)*e not no toime, a
don*t, nirir, ef he do/' Their exckmations, too,
arc singular : " Ah 1 look at that now 1 '* *^ 8ure !
an it be curus, werry much so '' ; *' Sure-ly now ! an
the Lord suffered it I '■ " Sartin sur I now be it-
well I ** kc. Altogether they are " a peculiar people"
in tliose hop and apple district*, full aa they are
of odd phrtues, quaint sayings, and su|ierstitionfi,
Shelslet Beaucuamf.
**KrKE" (5«^ S. ii. 41, 110,)— I think Mr.
PicToK and Mr. Skeat much more likely to be
right in their explanation of Cbaucer^s meaning
tlian I am, and 1 only Return to the question
because neither of them h.'is adverted to one of
the difficulties which I found in the matter. If
we had only the EUesmere text, the case would he
as simple as Mr. Picton thinks it ; but, wrong
as my roDdering seems to have been^ all the Bcribea
of the other five texts erred with me. He of the
Hengwrt did not apparently know the word kik«
in either sense, and substituted a word which gaTe
the passage a like sense to that which I supposed
it to have. The other four understood bike to be
hetkf and boldly changed it, as one of them had
also done, in the passage in the Miller's Talej into
look. They eviJently did not know the word
Jttj-^^rjtidt, which existed none the less, as Mr,
Skeat shows,
I cannot agree with Mft. PiCToy that a short-
sounding letter suits the second syllable of the
second iambus better tlmn n long one would have
done. * He5RT H. Gibbs,
Aldenh&mj Herts.
Shotover (5t»* S. ii. 91, 13fi,)'-What is the
evidence— not mere assertions — that Shotover is a
corruption of Chdtenu rtrt ; and when did the
change take place ? In the Patent Roll for 1 1 Edw.
L (128^-3) I find " Foresta nostra de Shothouere."
Hermesttrude*
^'Plaoal" (S*"^ S, i. 329, 415.)— From phga, a
blow=irAi7y7J, Dor. Trkaytx k TrAvJo-o-o*, to strike.
I>u Cange explains it *^ Modus toni musici," and
gives reference to Autinln&, T\l^TL'r>^AQlVv.^s^\>Kstt«^*^
from the Btiikmo iW e\\ot^?v oi ^?xx\Ts.^J5L\^vr^-
198
NOTES AND QUEREES.
[B»aitSwT.S,7i
ment* Hence al^o pkdrum = that hy which the
chords arc atnick* Edmuitd TW, M.A.
** Etym, TTXayipc, dfl c6i6 pAre« que k quftrte ie
troure plac6e a c6t^ de 1» tonique* auinnt d^Ortigue,
Dictionnaire d* Plain-Chant ; mail, luiTant Lafag^, parce
que les mod^sptagaax sont mains dii«el«fl que leaautben-
ticjucB qui donnent ime gamine tcmto nftturelle/*— liittrc,
DttLioJinaiTt cU la Langue Fran^Ue,
A. L. Mathew.
Oxford.
Bar Sinister (5«» S. I 268, 314, 418 ; ii. 18.)
— The assertion of M. H. U., that the term bar
nniikr cornea from the French heraldry, is cor-
roborated by the article *' Armoirie " in Viollet-le-
Duc*a Bictionnair^ Eauonn^ da rArehiUctur€f
Tol L, in which a bend sinister h tenned nne
barre. G. A. B,
8L John* A Wood.
Rahel {5«* S. i. 388 ; ii. 133.)— If Mr. Uknone
will refer n^in to my little book, CaTmarth^n and
iU Neiijhbo\irhood^ he will find that the note, in
which it is said that Bishop Richard Da vies, D.D.»
bBaalated Jof=hna, Judges, Rufch^ 1 Samuel, and
2 Samuel, in the Ea|rlish Bible of 1568, and 1
Timothy, Hebrews, damej, 1 P^ter, and 2 Peter,
in Sidesbury'a Wehh New TestametUf 1667, is a
tranalation of the inscciption on the monument to
Biflhop ilavie«\s memory^ erected iu Abergwilt
Chumi at the instance of Bishop ThirlwalL
W. SrURRELL.
Canmartben.
In the " Breeches ^* Bible, that is the edition of
15S>4, the form ** Rahel " is fcnind, and a long note
also prints and refers to ** Bahel " in Jeremiah
XXX L 15. Neomagus.
March Dust v5*»* S. i. 505 ; ii. 74.)~A11 parts
of this island appear to have appreciated March
dust. In Scotland *'n peck of March dust is worth
itfl weight ijn gold "; in the North of England the
same quantity is said to be '* worth a king's ransom.''
To have dry and fair weather in March is so essen-
tial, as a rule, to the prcpamtion and sowing of the
earth, and so often has it been the forerunner of
bountiful crops, that we need look no further for
the origin of this widespread saying. L N.
Barnard Cutle.
The value of March dust, I always understood,
is estimated by the difficulty of getting it : Ist,
because Mfirch is generally not a dry, and there-
fore not a dufity month ; and 2ndly, because it is
to be beaten off the hedges, which are not often in
leaf. E. L. BLK:tKiNsopr.
**CARDtitrs Bekedictus," not "Beatus'' (rit*"
S. iu 48, 95.)— I have been familiar with the
" legend," tn^litionally, from childhood, and have
heard it referred to by many persons in many parts
of England. Herbert Randoltu.
" Petjtecost *' as a Name (4**» a i. Srj8 ;
S. i. 4412, 472 ; ii. 78.)— A ** Pentecost " fan
has resided in this neighbourhood for manr ;
post. F. '
Noiiinghiun.
Authors Wakted : "When York to Heateit^
(fi^ S. ii. 47, 96.)— The ** York'' referred to in 1
first line is, no doubt, Archbishop Blackburn, wh
WiUpole credits with having been a buccan©
and still keeping a seragho. The otlier
satirized are all judges, with the exception ci Hii»^
gerford. Price, a judge of the King's Bench, i
in especially good reptite for his honesty tad
courage, Powys, another judge of the sameoauctf
was no lesB famous for bis dullness. Page, a judge
successively of the Exchequer, the Common Pleu,
and the King's Bench, was known, in bia time, «
the hanging judge. Fortescue (who took hit
mother's name of Aland) was also a judg9 in iU
three courts, and, on his retirement, was ci^eated i
Peer of Ireland. Tracy was an Irish judge trant-
ferred by William IIL to the English Beiu^h.
C. T. B.
Batb.
L0N1>0N COMPANl^ OR GuiLDS (5*^ S. il 4S,
£^6.) — ^The arms of sixty- two, and dates of the
foundation of sixty-five, of the companies ma? he
f#und in The Neiv View of London^ published by
Robert Knaplock at the Biahop^s Head in St
Paul's Churchyard, 1708. By the liist of the com-
panies given in the City Almanac for the camat
year, I find that the " Silk Throwers^ are da&nctr
and that the following compimiea, which were not
in existence in the year 1 708, are now to be foond
among the Companies of the City of London, vir.^
Basket Makers, Carmen, Fan Makers, Fellow Ik*
Porters, Glass Sellen, Gold and SQver W)fe
Drawers, Gun Makers, Playing Card Makers,
Needle Makers, Spectacle Makers, Tin Pial«
Workers, Wheel wri^ta, and Woolmen.
EvERABD Home Colkmax.
71 1 Brecknock Eoad, N.
^iifrn&ntauf.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &a
Th4 ConMitiUiotu and Canons Ecdejfinjffiral pfihf
Church of England referred to ' -
Sources^ and IlLustraUd tcifA Exj'
By Mackenzie E. C. Walcott, BM. (Fiirktr
& Co.)
There is not a more indefatigable, induairtOtti»
useful, and painstaking writer than the above
reverend gentleman, Prre^entor and PrebendaJT of
Chichester. He must have the rare secret of how
duly to partition out im\(\ ^ r '"^ --v/u ^.,<
plish the work, which ne\
Amid his many labours, -M. W ^: ,. .„.-; l<j
to send occasionally a contribution to ^^ N. <
^^
l6»8.n.8BPT. 5^*74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
199
hey are always weleoroet and fully appreciated ;
M onljwiah there were more of them,
[Mr, Waloott eogftges in so many labours that,
senily aa this ** handy volume '' haa appeared,
i Me by no meaoa con^dent in aaaertlng that it
kteat. However this may be, there is no
IS to the value of the present volume.
!in he baa collected scattered material, out
which he has constnicted a goodly edifice.
iitherto no attempt hns been made to trace up
r existing Canons to their origintd sources.'* So
fites the author^ and he naturally expresses his
! at the fact. To many, the very able and
eresting Introduction to the volume will prove,
srhapa, more valuable than all that foOows. It
^jiuffularly able paper, exhibiting remarkable
f Of condensation^ and serving as a chapter,
J up to this time, in Church History, Mr.
riloott states that one principle of the Cburcii of
giand is ** comprehension," not " compromifio/'
! illustrates this by the directions of St. Gregory
Augustine :— **Milii placet, sive in Romana
^^, Galliarum seu in qualibet EccleaiA ah quid
i, quod plus omnipotent! Deo poaitit placere,
eliga^^ et in An^lorum Kcclesia quee adhuc
[ Mem nova est, institutione pnecipua quas de
eccleaiis colligere potuisti infundas ; ex
ergA qutbusque Ecclesiis qua? pia quie
a, Qu« recta sunt eligc." This, perhups, is
. 01 advice which everybody coram ends and
; follows. A French author had it in his
irhen, some half-dozen years ago, he proposed
ffible the union into One of the Jewish^
9 and Moslem belief ! Where canons and
are at issue, Mr. Walcott has no
alty in explaining, if not reconciling them,
Lly, his book on the Canons does what he
'the Canons themselves do, namely, " They
Htute in their successive developments a
J of the growth of Doctrine and Discipline
I the Church of England, and especially as they
1 or enforced by the Rubric." We sincerely
%ie Mr. Walcott on this most useful
jtfUu fi^iirvutry and Chapel of tin EoMpilal and
^ ColUot o/ St. John th€ Svanatlift at Cambndff€. By
\ Charlei 6krdale Bfthiagton, MM, F.R.S., F.S.A., Pro
IfiMnr of Bot*ny in the UniTerstty of Cambridge.
[(Giiabndge» D«ightOD, Bell k, Co.)
mtet an-1 F._llow« of St. Jolin's have done wull in
ry of tb&t ancient Hospit&l which,
ofNig'ellufl, Buhop of Ely (a.d.
if I, uiui pnivea to be but the precursor, through
jirt^ of Margmret of Richmood, of the lecond most
knt collcire ta the tJaiTcraity. The Professor of
handi the work of compU»tion was cn-
cortgratulftted on havuig produced a
^'■f-A its way into the baokabelTea of
1 young, who enjoy notbing better
It* ea should be stirred, from time to
r a tTnjuiaLrMiCC of old oasociationa. The little
iforv U4 oo&t&ius uot oidy an account^ with plans
and phDtogimphic vtewSt of the old buildings that had lo
make way for Sir G. Gilbert Scott's magnmcent chapel,
hut al«o, by way of uniting the past with the prescntp a
full description of the tatter structure. To our mind Pro-
fessor Babington b&s adduced perfectly valid reasons for
the style of architecture (Early Decorated, jl.i>. 12S0)
adopted by its eminent designer. We lately recorded
with pleasure the recntting of no mean name on a grsre-
stone in the cloisters at Westminster; it will then,
doubtless^ be a Mtisfaction to our readers to know thut,
whilst the monomeDts hare been removed from the old
to the now chapel^ the slabs covering the graves of those
who were interred in the former have been left in their
places, and that the foundations of the old obapel^ not
Laving been removed, mark its site, and so form sn ea-
clasure. Can any one give a reason, for it *' is not ap-
parent," why, to quote the Professor** words, *' so eini*
uent a man as Eudo de la Zouch, the first free Chancellor
of the Univertity, A.n. 1396| was buried in the Chapel of
St. John's Hospital" 1
On Certain Bnglhk SwmamtM, and their (keanonal Odd
Phaiu, ithtn geen in Oroupt. By C. L. Lordan.
(London, Houlston ; Komney, Lordao.)
The name of Lordan will recall to the mind of many
persons the same aathor*a CoUof/ma on PoHry and PmU^
which Mr. Lordan, who ts a printer, composed at once
in types» without written copy. This singular volume
has had a success which is not at all bevond its merits.
The present work, which is most creditable to the coin-
Sller s own press, is also creditable to his taste and in-
ustry. Some singular names ore to be found in these
groups. We fail to find " Freshwater " among his
** Liquids/' and it would be well to note that "Christ,'*
ftfl a surname, is German, and means ** Christian,'* A
great deal of " fun " may be got out of some of the
names. The Introduction, " On Some of the udd Phases
of our Surnames/* ihows liow well-qoahfted Mr* Lor^n
is to handle this subject, and that he can be as much a
humourist ss a scholar.
Le Cktwd tt 30% Cavalier, Par le CoBite J. de Lagoa-
die. 2 vols.
L€$ Chevaus dm Pur Sana: Phytionmnit da Eenritf dts
CouruM Fran^aite*. Far le Baron d'litreillcs (Ned
Pearson),
La Pluit et le Biau Tempt.
L* Aquarium d'Eatt DouUt d'Eau d* Met. Par Jules
Pixsetta. (Paris, Rothschild.)
This is, in many respects, a canons collection of French
books. Three out of the four works show how U wport
is progressing in France, and how it is lending, if not
permanently adding, new words to the French language.
Tlie whole are eleganUy got up, and are profnaelv iUns-
tmted with woodcuts. In the first two works there !•
much interesting information about the hone and hti
rider, and useful instructions as to riding. The volume
on Bain and Fine Weather recommends itself by its
simplicity of treatment to every class of readers. The
Aqnari^tm is, perhaps, likely to be the most popnlar. U
is exce&tively interesting. On this side of the Straits of
Dover a young student may at once, by the use of this
pretty book^ improve himself in French and NatumI
History.
English School Clamet, edited by Fr&iicis Storr, B.A.,
Assistant-Master at Marlborough College (Rtvingtons).
The following are now before us : — SimpU Poims, which
includes well-known specimens from various authors;
Sdections front Wordtworth; the First Book of Tkt
Excurnon: The Wanderer; Thomson's Se^toiu!
Winier; Baoon^s Eaayi, and Paradiie Lott (Books
I. and II. J, edited respectively by Messcv ^vK^axa^
Turner, Bnght^ und StQTT. W \i ^i^i tMb«s«Mun ^ ^^
200
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[B»8. n,SB»i.5,74.
3
UiAtthe marilof Uli^iiriMl^lHpMntiimcd m the
rolumefl enumeraiid ftbore. Wr lAn olt^ wish Mr. Storr
aU the tuecefiB that bis o Sorts deserve. Sdectioiis from
the Spectator and Burnf'a J^oems ure pnmmcd. From
Meurs. Rlriniftoii aJjo come A Book qf Metrical
Litanies and A Book of LiUtmes, M«ir\cctl and Prou,
with an Eveninr; S^rri^, which are well adapted to
the Seasons of the Church. Sonm of Many Seaiom
(Pickering) is the title of a §Tn&ll volume of poemSi
whichj embmcing Kome that have already appeared in
The P«oplt*t Magazine and in Evening Bourt, C. H. has
done well In putting with others into a collected form.
The following lines occur in From Jtnisahm to Emma v^ :
'<0h, itmnKC, sweet journey ! Is it thus, dear Lord»
That troubled wanderers throujgb earth's psjasing day,
Seeking, yet doubting still Thy saving word,
Are found by The© upon their sorrowing way 1 "
"Tehple Bail,'* in an article called ''Bought and
Sold in the Last Century," has a sample worth qtioting
of the journalistic style of the period* A newspaper,
after noting the death of Eowe^ the Poet- Laureate, in
1718, adds : — *' He is to be interred in Westminster
Abbey, where Cowley, Chaucer, Ben Joneon, and the
rest of thoee people lie.''
" MACMiLUiir's MAOASiim*' will flutter the Shak-
Bpeariatis. *' Who Wrote our Old Plays?" is the title of
a learned and elaborate paper by Mr. Fleay, in which
Im ftstigns a great part of Henrtf V/II, to Fletcher.
€SfmheUn€ is believed to have been written at periods
Wide apart, as the word " Posthumus is di£Ferently
accented. **Pdsthumua" and **Po«th6mua" But so
is *' BuiislntLiie " in Macbtth ; aad ]>rydei& makes the hero
of his tragedy, Cleom^oea and ClMmSnes indifferetitly,
but without le&diDg to tba eoneluiton that the drama
was compoied at two jwrfods.
JDr. Chahlis MACEAt is preparine a work for pub-
lication, to be issued as soon as a aufllciieat number of
SDbflcribers is obtainedt entitled The O attic Etymohgp of
tkt I^tmqmiaffet o/ Wuitm Murope, and more eupccuititf
pf the Enatiik ai^d Lowland *^cotcK^ ami t/uw Canif
Slunfft and Coltoquial Dialectt. The work will bear
thia sirntlicant epigraph :— '* Without a considerable
knowledge of Oaelic no person can make any real pro-
ficiency iu Philology* — Dr» J/wrray, Proftstm- of Oritntal
Lang^i^agu, Bdinmirgh.** Dr. Mackay demands in the
Prospectus of this work due recognition of the ma-
ternal cluiracter of Gaelic, as, to a large extent, the source
of Greek, Latin, Italian, French, Spanish, and eepecially
of the English. He traces its rise from the far East,
and claims for it a greater antiquity than any InagUAge
now spoken m Europe. It is not liaely that subscribers
will be wantinir for a work like this by a scholar so com-
petent as Dr* Mackay.
Great ^ames excite sufficient respect to authorize us
in noticing that a descendant of the Comnenl who
reigned at Constantinople ha^ distinguished herself at
an educational examination at Aix* This young hidy
^^Colorab de Comneno — is only sixteen yean old.
Dtma^it Cathsdkal. — In reference to a pangiapb in
"N* k Q.," 6"« 8. ii. ISO, J. T, F. states positively that
the skeleton there described as that of a woman wag,
when carefully examined by Professor Rolleaton and
others, pronounced to be that of a boy, a^ed about twelve
or thirteen years; The local eeerelanes of the Society
of Antiquaries are prefNuing a full account of all the
reoent discoveries, and it would be a pity to forestall that
by any further remarks.
BOOKS AND ODD V0LUMB8
WA2STED TO PURCHASR
FaKIcuIaii or iMoe, hn., ot etvfr bodk to bt Bisil dtreoA U. -^^,
pentoa bjr nrhoia » li ni«iilr«d. «buit uaot aod a<Mt«M u^ 0?^
for th*t purptwe :—
Nicriou>*a Bflaiotb««« T^pocnplUea BMIanaicai V^ ▼II^ m Wm
WftDled by W, ii. Demode hkuh^^ if^ CvmXtf Ifcta4. OlJM*
^atftrtf to Cotrc4{ranirritU«
G. P, B. (p. 167. afit«K— See *' N. A: o ' '- ^ -
433, 450). Mr. Nobuati, at the la^t
that the earliest mruiion of the mtxiic^
factors occurs in the apocryphal Gospel oT ZVictJ
otheririse culled The Acta of Pilate; they arc
called Dysmari and Gestaa.
W. B.— We cannot find room for 4hia Ic
munication, but, if the writer pI«Bf«a, we ^
It to the gonttoman to whose jocose paper it ia i
as a reply. Our own wisli is not to carry the jjoke any
further.
Clkf.— " Hope told a flattering tale." The words of
this ballad arc by " Peter Pindar" (Dr. Wulcot). Tb
music of Pray Good^f was published ae Dr. Anie% \
it has l»een repeatedly claimed as Rouseau'g.
J- P, M.— The after-piece, 77k: Camji, was nmee ^
lished in Sheridan^a collected works; but Moore sfcowl^J
in Thf. Lift o/ Sheridan^ that it waa by TickeU.
Mr. TRtriLovE states that it waa not he, bot (M
Kickman, whom he was quoting, who examitscKl the bo4f^
of the GbeTalier d'Bon.
J. C. P.— See Murray's Handbook for ^cmtrMl, Car
the legend of Darrell of Littlecots, and for half'«'daMa
references to other authorities.
W. J. M.-" Sleeps like a top '* has its emurtlent^ no*
only in the Italian ** Donne come nn topo, but sjiso hi
the French '* U dort coumie un taupe,'' or donnoiui^
J. E. P. L.— We cannot help in ^e matter of Oe«t|e
IV.*s amours, or of his pecuniary doings with Jews*
J, W. W,— An application to Mr. R liinailf
would, no doubts receiTe a courteous reply.
LocKWooD k Co.— See p. ^3 of the last t«liuiie flf
H. H.— The book is nntntstworthy in every itite'
ment.
G. A. 8. — Our best thanks for your thoughtful kindtieis.
Q.— Epitaph in Sidbury Church. See ante, 88, Ifll
B. k Co.—" Every kind of f«^te " is the corroci fons<
K. P. D, E.— Forwarded to 51r. Thoma.
S. M.— D. S. P* = Decepsit sine prole,
Nov confirms rather than refutes.
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lOJtDOJf, BATUKDAT, SSFTSMBEB, 1% VST^
CONTENTS.— N- 37.
}— f^coenl Fox on Chftrlei JAmei Foi And ffolUnd
jpcariuift, 203 -'An OlH Claricftl Anecdote--
9(N— Tmnvlt o( Vcnw— Oliver LYomwcll'a Ilc*fl
0otiie. LeicMler Fieldi — "Montiear* &Dd
i«"— Th« Antbonhip of ^'Anld fiobijt Gr»T " —
» oon LuoeiuiOt" :i06^**D«fetid«tr of Lbe F<b" —
"flUMUfH* *&d "St«lUag**^TIiomu Campbell^** Sconce/'
QJDSEIES :~IniiSO Jonci Mid PhlUp, Enxl of rembroke--
Md, 207— "Prl¥*t« History of the Court of EngUnd ■*—
BMI JontoQ, Jan. — The Blue Plonrer of GbaxeeiKire — Two
CHudbct in Od« CbarcbyMd^ toe— Bev. Ur. Singleton^ of
Sl^by— Fletdin^'i Proverb*— Oil PikiJitinf— Old encr&vin^—
SdnntiN) Blount— Six ATtUurGoTfe--Plnicy—** Iron Virgin,"
9iii«Dlieig— J«ioc« Mh|«I*oo, Abp. of Annagb^ S0O.
EEPLIES ;— Domingo (Tootftlcs, 90ia— Bob«rt«on Funllj- Tbe
Ulaad Iri«— Privy CVouncll Jiiit|ia«ata : Liddttll r We«-
latoo. 01-" Worming" for GuiiA« B«bLes» 212—" Touch
boi tli« CS*t"— Btmy&n't ImlUton— Bytand Abbey — Epi-
Mml Q««7— TbouiM Wentworth— " The Bir^r* Neat "^—
** wlQr ** at Kti Expletive, 21S— Lettera by " An English mua "
— €li«kii«ea4d«n — " Rei^Uon of EnglAnd " -^ Fly-Le&f In-
»'« Bmrt At Str»Uord. 214—** God blei«
crk " — a«tTiiifK3oDBtlng — Ittbel and EUfAbeth —
PWMte— **OUi T'—'' " »'-tl flection*." ns-" Diphthong "
—Ml*- S«tT«ft— v> ird— Arbitrary of^ Conventional
Woi4'l^raialir>T ( an ning— Stogie ^e-Qlasiif's —
ZlAJtt. ?^-* ^^i''' — Rev. 8. CUrkc— The
Jvdfei •! ir bi« envy " — Self ing
Oospicafi^ 1 fiction, 217—** Wljieafler
tta KvBUV — ^.»M < ^j*^ ^ ul^ke a bri<ttfe of gold for
m lariDf enemy "»J>r. JJw'i Magic MifTor» SI&
Vote OB Books, ^c
OB!rBEAL FOX OX OHABLES JAMES FOX AND
HOLLAND HOUSE.
the unpublished correspondence of Leigh
tnl io my hnndfi lofit year by Thornton
kiir ' ! letters from the bte Genenil
\h Hunt se€ms to have submit t4?d
hi- MMi *<JT on Hollaiod House, about to
in Jlowtfhold l^ord.i (voL Lx.), and sub-
ally re-issuc-ti^ in book fonii, tis Tfu Old Cmirt
Hth.
Of the thr€<? moat important letters I »end yoii
nfi any p<irticulai9 reapecting Holland
, and any records of tiic life and death of
Jiioies Fox, from the pen of one of his
en, :ir<> of interest to Englishmen, whether
a* to nmtters of fkct or merely Ibiully
lltion#.
' les in Household Words
;j and to Tfie Old Court
ill ijow i^ig\i Hunt's littention to many
1 Fox'a memoranda in the first of the.^
It 10 fttnnge, however, thitt eume of the
• aoggeatwl were not adopted in any
ihe book, if, as it is rcry probable was
■H, ihej were received too late to bo of u^e
^mMkold W^ord*. But it is possible that
Hufitf who wafl most poijistakiiig in his e&r
deavoiir» to be accurate, or, as his son Thornton
better puts it, "a very conscientious M'orkmnn,
who would state nothing that he had not veriHed "
(Corrutpandence of Leigh Bunt, vol iL, p. 168),
had good reason for distruHting even eo high an
autliorlty in mich matters us the General may be
considered ; —
" St. Leonards on Sea, 39 Jumai7, 1854.
" Dear Sir,— I regret that^ being abaent from home
vi siting, I did not get your letter till I returned last
night. 1 return it by this post, aa you are in inch
husie for it.
'' I have made a few pencil memoranda^ bat hare not
been able to make a proper revioicnL There are leveral
orrori in the local deccriDtion. There are no old
Garden! and Fbwer Beds, want there are were made br
njy mother. There ia do expiatory altar to Lord Camel-
ford. There was a little antique AUar pkced on the
spot where ho fell, at one time, but it haa ditappeared
for 3(> ^ears. I am not aware of any pic^turea of
Alighien or of Ciesar Borgia. There are mmiatiirei of
Aitieri aad his wife^ the Duchess of Albany, and one of
Kobespierre. The latter was bequeathed to my father
by the late I^ord Lansdowne. The portr^ts of Sterna
and Gar rick arc no longer at H. House. Mr. Fox was
at lea^t IS or 19, and his Aunts 23 or 2i, when the large
picture of tbeui by Itevnolds was paint^L
"At p- 5 you give a Ii*t of lodgers in U. H. I ncTcr
heard of these, but I conclude you have some autliority.
" P» 6.— The present L*>rd Kensington is a very worthy
man and a captain in the Navy ; and, though, of course,
it re n J aim with you to act as you like, 1 think the ex-
pression of more dLBtinguished Hace might as well be
omitted.
'* 1 hope ymi will forgive the freedom with which I
have mud ' U:a,
*' Vutjr ritainsj I beUeye, all that can be
li^leaned l< nd House, aad will, I have Qodoubt,
amuse tbt: readcra of Houuhold Words,
" I thall try to see you when I rotom with Lady
Mary to Addison lload* k regret to hear of your having
been so unwelL
** In haste, very truly yours, C Fojl
'' In my Father's time the Library was ^fUUd over the
bookcases with portraits of politi(»l, literary, and pri*
rate friends, and aUo Family Portraits, now chiefly
remoyed to other rooms, and some left away to Friends
by my Mpther. There were portraits of Canning, Sir
K. Walpole, J. H. Frere, Lord Darnley, Drydon,
Addison, Lord Th&eet, Krskine, Eomilly, Francis, Lord
Essex, D. of Bedford^ Moere, Kogen, Grabbe, and many
more-
"In the Drafring Eoom there is a fine portrait of
Talleyrand by Sc belter, and one of Napoleon at Fontaine-
bleau, by Gerard.
" To Leigh Hunt, Esq^J*
•*St. Leonards, 3 Fehry. 1854.
" Dear Sir,— I return the proof theeta I have acribWed
some memoranda,
" My father did not die of Dropsy but of Gout in the
Stomach- He had n»t a very strong coostitution, and
had fits of Oout from rery early life, augmented by leaving
off exercise after his marriage. He was before a very
eager Sportsman when iM had the opportunity, & tifl
within 20 years of his death tited to fish whfr- - ' » -1
an opportunity, and also play at tennis at V ,1
London , of w hich he was devotedly fond , aa >v .
though neither of them *rreat performers. It wii^ vjrj
comical to aee Mr, Fom, I ha^^ V»ks4^ ^Xa.Yo^^^'^^^
202
NOTES AND QUERIES.
fat figure ftnd f!&nnel drtss, &c., yet very acttve. George
Selwyn, w you tuY, wm & great Iriend of Hftirj* Fox.
'* George 8. bad a strange (but not uncommon) paiuion
for Meiog dead bodirt, especially thc*«fl of hi« friendj'.
He wouJd go any dietance to gratify this pursuit Lord
^Hollfind was laid up very ill at H. H. shortly before his
deatli. George Selwyn sent to ask how he w«s, and
whether he would like to tee htm. Lord Holland
aiujTsered, * Oh, by all means ; if I am alirc to roorrow I
«liali be delighted to see George, and / imow that if I am
dead be will bo delighted to see me ! '
" I never heard of the Ejiitaph you allude to of my
Pfcther.
" Youra iincorely,
"To Leigh Hunt, Esq.. "C. Fox.
" 7, Cornwall Terrace, Hammersmith/*
With respect to the second letter, it will be ^een
that I*ei|^'li Hunt uses the epii^nmnifilie message of
Lord Holland to George .Sclwyn from his Ueath-
ted ; but of the other corrigenda, mnny were in-
J advertently or intentiomiily wmitted by Leiirh
(•Hunt. For in eta nee, in IIouMthofd IVordi and in
^The Old Court SHhnrh the cnma of Chariot Jiunea
[Fox's death remains *' dropsy" (p. 171, Grd edit.),
J and his ** strong constitution'- is still referred tt>.
On the.se pjinta Lei^^h Hunt ccrUiinly hnd better
^ ftiithoritjthan the Genend. Lord (Vilchester, tlien
' Mn Charles Abbot, and .'is Speaker of the House
of Commons likely to be well mfonned, stated that
Ton Monday, March 3lst, IM^G^ Mr. Fox was taken
^111 in the House of CommonK. He adds " to-day "
(Wednesday, April 2n(i), ** Cline, who had been
called in as a surgeon, entertained ti very l>ad
opinion of his case* , * . His lega swellint^ at night
and not recovering their natural toize in the morning ;
and general symptoms appearing of a dropsicsd
habit ^' (Diarif and Co7'res2}ondinicj\ vol. li. p. 48),
On the day folh>wing this entry Mr. Fox was in
his place in the House of Commons as Foreign
Secretary, and continued to attend j-e^ularly until
June 19th, when he drank tea with the Speaker^
who records it liS " the hi^t, or very nearly the Iji^t,
time of Mr. Fox attendin|f the House of Commons"
ilhuL p. 71). Lord Erskine informed the Speaker
on the 27th of June that JVfr. Fox^a complaint
** wuA not dropsy , . , . but hydropicid symptoms "
{Thitl. p. 73). On the following evening, Dth.
Baillie, Moseley, and Vaughan had u consultation*
and Mr. Abbot describes hia state *4o be that of
an actual formation of water in the chest ; the
mass of his blood broken and debilitated ; no
regular secretion of the kidneys ; and the stronge^it
^medicines for expelling the wati^r have failed. His
I Btate of body is also such as to render it impossible
^ to give vent to the water in his legs for fear of
'ttWitiitcation, .... Lord Grenville had leen him
yijilerduy in good spirir:!?^ hut w^as not aware of the
progress of his iUne^a to the extent that I related "
(p. 74). Lord Holland, in his Mevioin of the
r nhig Party, vol. I p. 265, says that Fox was
' tapped '* for his complainf on the 7th of August.
flc was then at Godolphiu HQUae, Stable Yam (on
the Site of which stands Stafford House), and bow
the operation patiently, whilst his Lcm ' ' dj
aloud the eighth book of VirgiL Oii
Sept^ud>er, when at Chiswick Hou^, u»
*' tapped" for the second and last time
twelve days after, naraely> on the 13Lh
month, he died — of " dropsy," aa the two opei
of "tapping'* fiufficiently prove, and aa all'
jiiemoirs, diaries, and corresfxindences wdiich t^taJ
of that period unequivocally stat*? ; aiJ tbr^-ti
many of them — notably Lord C
not been published when Leigh
may be fiurly assumed that Leigli
in rejecting his correspondents
though that correspondent was a sod iji
I should mention, on the other hand, >-
supporting General Fox's view, that L"
Kav;!, early in June Fox was at tricked wit
at ism in the thighs *" {Manoin of ' ' ' '
vol. i. p, '240) ; and the Annual L
\\ ni2, makes Fox say to a frieriu, x i
liiiuk my complaint not unlike Pitt*s ; my
has been long discompoaed, and I feel my «»•
stituLion dissolving." Again, Wraxall {HiMmmi
^f^mo^^»^ vol. ii., p. 14) says, *' \is rnrlv i^ 1 7>i Mr.
Fox was already attacked wit '
of the bowels and stomach at ti
Sir Nath:miel wrote this in 1813, about v^vvajmn
after Fox's death, and by the tisc of th« irPBi
"already ^' implies that it was un aifcction of ihf
"stomach and bowels" which pr*>Tpd fntfiL
As regards the General's
Hunt's reference to Fox's "^i
is really frivolous, if not actujuiy
own mention of Fox's playing
authorities testify to Fox's f ' '
stamina ; agreeing with Wnix i
had conferred on him a coij.^l^lulm.i
capable of prodigious exertion."
"Addison Road. "' ^r,
'* Dear Sir,—! take blame to mysst :
written before^ but the fact ia that I
the liwit day or tiro been able to read y- ux ua
11. IJ. with Attention, 1 hare now done iu, and
yuu before permitted me^ point out a few
which, though not very important^ stilb in a (o
graphical de«JrHptl<^n, ought to be c^rrecft d. I •htniL
"I will 1 ' i"e With matt ,y%i
one: yon 1 House is j
myself dit! u, and If!
people will ttl6»>. The South Froiitj ly
East Entrance, and tlie whole pile, 1
some of its eort, hut this is rr : '
When yt>u stftte that except a
nothing Micioiit, I think you for..
and paintfit in Jame* the Firat's tiuio.
" The Targ« Elm Tree is not on the Lawn or on
— it is lurrouudcd bv hieh T'^- -^ ' • - * i -. ~ i ,
SJoulh. nut the Wesl Tin 1
3 ttidcB, X<, E., and West, • l i
tmmo the open undulating i;ruuxid, a^id ir, c^iivU
thttn Lane,
" Lord Cametford did not gire the roiuKin you atatt.
nlw^yt hare henrd that ho f^uarrdled with mr. Vk<A f^l
tit In
S>&It6BPr.lS.<74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
203
r Winj^ ft celebrated aliot would not decline fighilng).
Mu. h^ «r..,.,r L„t ttiia [is] iv^hftfc I Ueard. Lord
II ID the Kary, and went rtmml
iser when yottti^. who was a very
_^o_Hii jcr. tMii^l wlijm Lord C, I liaTc heard, horao-
years aftennr;irda. Lord C. himself wad a
J taut hand whtri he cotnmfttided a ship.
r**I WM a Mtdihipmun ia 1811, with G&ptain Stewart^
Uie Seahorse Frigate, who had gone round the
with Lord €., and was much attached to him.
i« however, wa/I,
Tdo not k&ow which watAhewQ yoa u Charles Fox*a
oom"
* Hij Father'*, X thinks I ihewod you, ou the ground
or
f'* I neTer heard the ftory of Champagne for Slieridftji,
ynntljer u*ed to order a aervant to open the door
Treqtiently durinsr ^he nightj aa Sh* had a
\>\ng BraiiJy at hia bedside.
^i'A excuae all detail.
** Very truly you rt, C. Fox.
'To Leigh Hunt, Esq™, Hammersmith."
^ Of the several emendations in this third letter,
i\^h Hunt seems to have used but few. Probubly
. the matters to which they refer are accurately
aled in the Princess Liechtenstein's recently-
iblished account of Holland House, which I have
seen* If, otherwise, possessors of that book
.^r, bv help of " N. *Sc Q.," correct it on the
Ithorify of General Fox ; who, however, in writ-
to Leigh Hunt on the 17th of July^ 1855, to
knowledge the first volume of Tfu Old Court
Ubnrb^ deciared hiH own unused corrections to
' nut of mnch consequence.**
S. K. T0WX8HKND Mayer.
Richmond, Surrey,
SUAKSPEAElANi.
[The earliest copy of a play shows, of a particiular
Kt.ii r< .tdin^ which the next copy deserts. Every
' copv, edited or uneditetl, down to the
y and hour, chiming in with the desertion.
^Ueiuatid the restored reading of the earliest
be opening of the Fourth Scene of the First
in Shaks^peitre's tm^edy of Ma4:bdh gives birth
it appeal. 1 copy from the page of
I dilating editors, 18Gj (that earliest
jiiUfi^' r vrr[,rt«i), the universally current reading:
' Dnftcnn. li execution done on Cawdor? Are not
br>«"e ifi comtniuioQ yet retum'd ?
Moladm, ' My liege,
I They are not yet conxe back* But I have spoke
ritU one thnt saw him die."
rhilsi in the Folio, 1623, the authority for the
'»y, the Kin^^'s twofold questioning lies before
mis- measured, but, I dare avouch, well-
[iexl, iu—
•* !• execution dome on Ca vdor t
Ur uot thti*e in commiMlon yet retum'd T'
rjvering, in the cuiTent reiiding, with the
HUOiliMtiable rectification of the measure, the
more than questionable nmtation of a word — for
"Or not/' ^'Are not/'
The metrical order set straight, therefore, and
the old wording recovered, we shall have, for the
right rejiding of the Kings two questions ; —
•♦ I« execution done on Cawdor ? Or not
Those in commiaaion yet returned I *'
I tmnshite^ in hirge paraphrfise, the imi>ort, as I
receive it, of the cited question and answer, after
the so resusci tilted text of the first Folio. The
King asks : —
" The ientence pronounced on Cawdor, is it executed .'
** Or does it happen that, thoae to whom the overBight
of the business was committed not being returned, you
cumiot yet reply to my inqtiiry ? "
To which the Prince exactly makes answer : —
" The commisdoTiers are, indeedi not yet returned, hut
1 am able, nutwitljMUnding, to satisfy your inquiry,
having ipoken with one who was preaent at the death'"
A lof^ical chain of four sound links, whicb in the
established reading we miss.
I own, in the King's second question so given,
to a harshness, in the ellipsis of the mere con-
struction ; froru *^ in " of the first c|uestion, you
having to infer " are " to the second t^
" Or (arc) not tho«e."
But this harshness of the brevity proper to verse
is miide good to your ear by the energy crowded in
on every side to the elocution of the small subject
fought over—** Or,"'
Yon have lo«>ked upon it — interpreting it — as a
grammarian. Look on it now as n prosodist.
L Of the five syllables, carriers of the metrical
emphasis, it is the closing fifth.
Lord Monboddo coiiimenting, a hundred years
ago, on the precept of the Greek critic, Dionysius
of Halicarnassus, that you .shall procure U} yofU'
verse a grace of simulated prose, by not letting the
verse and the sen.^e end toj^ether {exam pled in
verse after ver^e of tlie FanuliM Lost)^ opportunely
asks, What sliall protect the verse from going a
step beyond the intention, and, in courting a
fiavour of prose, becoming prose ? His answer is
a lesson of high aiguificauce and of high con-
sequences. ** Lfjok,'' he says, ** and you will find
that the veree from which the sense m runs over
ends in a word of marked emplmsis. Such a word
naturally draws after it a momentary pause ; this
intercepts between verse and verse, and shuts up
the antecedent verse, safe in its musical unity/*
These are not precisely his words, but this, in e fleet,
is critically his instruction ; valid just now for us,
allowing us ** Or" set in a place of power.
2, The ciesuni falls in this tirst verse in the ninth
interval, setting ofi our two little terminal mono-
syllables, cfainted together for the sequent hemi-
siich, to Imld good the retj^ired metrical replication
to the nine syllables of the prior, mnintiuning the
equitable l>alance of the verse.
You may think that m ^V \Xiva\ w^^oaL^scwj,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*''8.ILSoT.l«7*
weight on a mere py^iejin heail» \inn\it for mn-
Ltmning it — a tiny di^vjunctive conjunction. But it
^mtist bear more yet. It hiis dmmAtic meaning and
iTJoment. It is a king's " Or/* who inquires into
tbe discharge, by bis semints, of his 84?rTice. Can
he he informed, or must he longer await the
ftssumnee tbfit his ortler given has tjiken occom-
|)Jishment ?
The ttage king must rule bia Toioe to h
mesiaurable pitch, and forbear tPespoRsing on the
ears of Ms auditors; but three aspects these
are under which be has to oonaider in one the
81^ of his altemAtLTe, weighted on tbe tongue
accordingly.
With a fourth our eloentionisti are familiar; not,
tluit I know of, our metrists, whose art it, however,
chanicteristically concerns. It is the inlet of the
vocaI rise and fall on the musical scale — therefore,
of music proj>er — into the poet's making — say, into
bis hearing — of his verse.
In thetse, the King's ven»e», hovering round our
ears, I understand the rise (') and fall ('), for
affected to the more significant aryllables> as I here
note them : —
*' Is L'xeoijtion dime on Ciwdor? Or nilt
Thoflc in commimioii jH reiVLTudi"
The step brings int4> conjparison, one with another,
themselves, our two little bemisticbal mono-
syllables^ the musical tone filling on " Or,^ and
rising on "not": —
The royal mind entertains two thinkings : one,
that regiirds tl:e ordered act of justice ; one, the
return of the miniatering commissioners. "Or"
reflects no part of the one, or of the other. It
stands out as the tie between tbe two. But it
reflects, in the mind of the speaker, the questioning
which of the two rightly conjectures tbe infonnation
that he shall receive ; therewitb, a state of tbe
mind — doubt. Thus it becomes peculiarly the
pergonal, or, as we learn to tenn it, tbe subjective
element, in so much of the speaking as lies under
our inquiiy. To this purport in the word, I bud
an accortiunt'e in tbe deei^er and more inward tone
of the grave accent,
" Not " is all otherwise. It is a part, substantive
and commanding, of the second tbinkiug. It ii^ks
the question with rather an expcctittion of tbe
affirmative answer, and the vivacity of tbe rise on
tlie ftcale suits it.
One ijuestion yet presses itjeelf on me for answer;
How did " Or '^ of the first Folio become ** Arc " in
, Ibe second ?
We lind ourselves remanded to the first Folio
and its reading.
The printer of the second has before him not our
** Or not,'' invested witli tiignificance and with
power by metrical phtce and office, but our'* Or
not ^* transplanted from the end to the beginning
of a verse, or of a line viewed as a vctse, and in
3
the removal divested of the -Iiruifictncc
power which it owed to the j
But bow did tbe meajjur. iiroken
I can imagine but one answer. Tbv play hi«,
some stage between the pen and tbt eye,
transferred from copy to copy by the voices ¥vt
myself, in so many of these plays I have foand
witness of tbis i>erilous trTinsfer,'that I hav« pre-
sumed it of all ; and have rested in tbe *unui*<r^
which I dhould be glad to have conltnned or
proved, of the usage in our youthful press that
read the copy and one set the types. Admit
for all tbe plays, or for any one play, so widi
as you admit it you lift tbe punctuation from ti
page. It is the oopyist'a guess of a meaning
the pauses or tones of bta reader, or of a require
ment in the sense. But just now we are dealini
with only a com5equcntly spoilt lueaaure. In llii»
way tbe reader, in our instance, has read our tfn
first question at a breath, and it is^ acoofdindj,
heard, and, by an unacanning ear, set down for a
\-erse : —
"Is eieentioa do at on Cawdor 1**
The second, similarly, at a breatli, and h if, stmi-
larly, set down for another : —
'' Or those in commisBion not yet rektm^d V*
So treated, the interdependence of the two qocs-
tions vanishes, and the temptation of infuidag
a clear sense, which finds its own att ruction in 1)m
occasion —
" Art not those in commisnoa yet retom^d V"
was irresistible, E&bm.
Ay Old Clerical A:xe<:t)ote,—
** Thcrfnr this arguroente ri^cth of wrongo undeftUn^
Inge, m the Vicar of Trumpenton umkr^tw.lt' EH Hi.
lumjilizabataDi [jitr]. When he red t'
P<ne l^t)day, when be came to that r
and, calleuig the churchwanJeii^ ut**,
this geare miifte be amcttded. I ! in tbe
hooke. I asauro you, if any L. • i - inOff*
and tee it, hee wiU have the bookt. Thcitiore, hj mm
a^iviae, we shall scrape it out, and jml in odro o«at
townes name, Trumpington. '*'^ * • l^maliinlMC-
tani.' They conaentcd, anii -« ha ttukt-
stoda no Grewo.'* — An II u^A/h// aarf
Trev€ iSulij€i:iu (Straeborowe, i^lti*}, ai^, G C; t. 0 4 t.
** Grewe,** t.f. Greek, here denotes any for
language. Tbe expreasion "heathen Cirfct**
the same sense, ia its successor. F, R*
Mariesford,
'* H AL9E " = Hazbl. — I reeentl v h«!ard
working man inform another, in tli »jI kl»
bad put a new ^aUc handle int: luoitt'.
After some inquiry, and with the tiiii ol ru inU
pretcr, I found tluit hnxti wi\» meant, and that^i
at least lluit part of Devonshire which skxif
south-cast of Dartmoor, the prevalent cqiu'
for ha7.eJ wood is 'aUen ^ood^ Wii. PEVai
Torquay.
^
NOTES AKD QUERIES-
SOS
Tiussrr or Vkijits, — A monumental tablet of
lilliCe marble, in the form of a scroll, h on tbe wal]
of Si, MichAers-ia-the-Hamlot Church, nojir Liver-
pool, l*f)on it there la the following inscription: —
" Vtrnu in tolt vIm, Xovember 24, 1639.
In Memory of
JniiiMr4fi Hounox, t-ne of the greateit
AftniDq-nierft thta KiDgiJom eirer prodQced
Barn in Toxt«th Park in 1619
Died \U\ tged 22
HJi obMmiioDS were matle at Boo tie
8 milea from Preston where
He prwKcted And wia the firnt perflon
Who nw the tmtittt of Venus over th«
Sao
Tbit memorial wae erected hj
M. UolJea Afttn^oomer
A.I>. 1826."
M, C, J.
Oliver Cromwkix's Hrad.— Thronjjh the York-
tk%(t€ GastiU, Aug. 8, 1874, I get the followiii>;
lOBaoemefit from the Bmldci' : —
Crofiiwvll*! bodj WW dag up, uid hii hemd pot on »
I and exposed at Ch&ring Croii. This bead ii aaid to
e h««ii dupoeed of^ and after pasung through scTeraJ
da It «M offered for sale. a few jeart a^ to Mr, K. G,
IL aometime M.P. for Tlilrtk, who wa< a lineal
lit of OUfer through his daughter. Lady Rich/*
' ThU head ^ is very suggestive of there Wvim
other heads about, which aI«o belonged to Oliver
Cromwell \ St. Swirnm,
Lkicbsteb Hocse^ Leicester Fields. — In
Faithome's Map of London, l.'ios, we find the
•outh wall of the front conrtyard of Leicester
Hotj-«' ;ilr»ii.-f on a line with the north side of the
pr^ Street; that is, much in a line with
the Qgs of the sqiuare as they stand now,
only that the £K)uth wall of Leicester House fore-
oonrt trended a little to the north-east, in the
I direction of Newport House. The building itaelf
J wotild therefore be about the middle of tbe square,
fjM, indeed, it !ippears in Faithome. And that
^ther*^ H*f»> ImiWm;^ there is proved by the dis-
the late alterations in the enclosure,
! Wundations, as Mr. Tom Taylor was
Mr. Knowles, the architect of tbe
Vow, as the Leicester House of the
'-'^ in I7(X* stands some dintanee
^1 Hide wail of the squiire which
. .iL front of Savile Houfte, — so far
■! to l>c apparently on a line with the
.r r.i^l(^ .-^rr.., t, —this could not be
^ Ifii'^ ind 1658, but » later
•taction, 1 arise, Wben wa« the
Ma hxmm femorcd i Wlio built the new ? Ig
timt extent a palotm^ or en;;ravin;2r, or any picture
or 4kK^» hc§ide that in Faithome, *jf the fonner
haiaam f P^riiup^ Vertue> orijjrinal drawing of
Lneester flou«^ in the [Kmoexiiiou of Jilr. Gardner,
** MoNsiBrR * AND *' 3Iadame.^' — The following
« AtJu'mnim of the 3t>th of May,
pkce in^'N. &Q,'':—
extract from the
1874, deserve* a
" It is generally fuppOMd that the custom, now almost
itniTeml in France, of addreMing ererj one yon meet as
' Mrmsieur * or ' >ladanie ' dates only aa far Lack as the
great Preach Iterolution* when every one waa ' Citoyen '
or * Citoyenne/ afterwards conrcrtcd into 'Bionsieur*
and * Madame '; but the uniTersality of the latter de^ig*
nations datee, at leaat, us far bftck a» tbe lime of the
' Grand Monarque/ and was then noticed by travellers,
as appears from a passage in one of our own dramas of
the period. We iillude to ' The Qtutm- and Concuhine:
a Comedie, by Richard Brome : London, 1659/ Jn this
the discarded Queen Eidalia is a4Jdre«8tid by one of the
characters a^i * Madam.' To which the replies, ' Talte
becd gocMl neighbours ; beware how you give dignitle or
title ; therein you may traosgress.' And she is answered
Lhus :—
' No whit, good Madam. Obserre the dialect of Pnuic€j
And you «Uall find Madam given there in courteste
To womeu of low fortunes, unto whom
Tis held a poor addition, though great Qucena
Do graos md make it royaL' "
EvERJLiiD Home Colemak,
71, Bwclmock Eoad. S,
mm^ light on the subject.
Qt;l Tam.
The AuTHORsnir of " Auld Robin Gray.*' —
It may not be univereally known that this charuiing
and popular air waiS composed by the Rev. Wm.
Leeves, who for nearl? fefty yeara prior to May,
182N, was Eector of Wriugton, in the county of
Somerset.
Wrington is alfio remarkable aa the birthplace
of Locke, and as containing Barley Wood, for
mcmy years the residence of Mrs. Hannah Mote.
The verse* were written in 177i) or 1772 by
Lridy Anne Lindsay, eldest dauffhter of the Earl
of Balcamui, and Mr. Leeves, bayinff receiTed a
copy of the verses from the Hon. Mrs. Bjron,
immefliately set them bo music Many persons
have thought the air to have been an old Scottish
ballad, but such ia not the ca8& It k stated that
(chiefly at the request of the dbtingalshed vocaliat,
Miss Stephens, who knew and venenvted the com-
poser) Mr. Leeves published the ballad with his
name in 1S12, together with some sacred pieces
also composed by him. C
CliftoDj near BnstoL
"Lrccs A yoN LucENT>o.** — As I have never
seen it hinted anywhere that Latin Iwti*^ a grove,
might be derived from Gr. Ai'ien?, a wolf, I send
you the sngi^eiition for what it is worth, Lucus,
thence derived (root, /«Jt), might primarily have
meant a wolfs lair, or as we .should say, a likely
place to find a wolf (looks wolfish). The root luJfc
is pre-Sanscrit, and from it are derived many Greek,
Liiin, Hindustani, and Engligh words; amoojl
the last — light, lynx, luck, laugh, wolf, througb
td]X^irti^t vulpu^ and the ^trtirnomtng Luke and
^ucy, through the Latin gms name Lucius.
200
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5'* 8. IL SCIT. lS.71.1
*' Dkfendee op TiiK Faith." — We are gencmlly
led to understand thtit the title " Defender of the
Faith " was conlerrt»d upon Henry VII f. by a
Bull of Leo X., 5tli October, 152L Whether it wiis
io I'onferred (one might aay confirmed) Is with me
u question. Amongst the charters relatinfj Uj the
manors of vurious ancient ffunilies of Yorkshire,
is one in the possession of Martin Farquhar
Tiijiper, Esq.^ which placea the mutter in a now
li^ht. It commences thus : —
" This Indenture maide the xxij*^ dayc of .Tanuarj in
the Bccond yea re of the reague of Hinge Henry the
Seaventhc by the Graice of God Kin^e of EngUnd
ddtndtiure of Uu faithe, &c. Betivixt Christofer Kktlife
of Hewicke In the CowTity of Yorke Eatjuiere on the one
|>'ty. And Richard Loftbouse of Eklacke tn the saidl
Cownty Yeoro&n of the other p«ty."
It is merely a life lease of some farm-biiildingB,
orchards, pnstura^, &c., and is signed " Xsu'ofer
Kadclym Jan. 23^^^ 1487."
The only doubt Is a« to its genuineness. It is
iu the hand\rriting of the period, sia I hare stated.
Had it been a forgery, the object of which I cnnnot
Bee, the detection would have been certain, as it
h merely a life lease, and by the latter end of the
reijQi^u of Henry VIII. would have been valueless.
Had the scribe erred in writing Henry VIL instead
of Henrj' VIIT., that would only have transfeiTed
the difficulty witliout exphdninr; it away.
There am be no doubt aa to the identity of the
ant^r. In 20 Henry VL, he married a daughter
of John Stalford ; the marriafre settlement, in
Latin, I think\ atill exists. His name also up-
peoTs in another small document, dated 1489.
J. S. Stafford*
"Stealing" and " Stellino,'^— In Canon
Kingsley'fl pleasant volume f»f essuxys^ just col-
lected and publidied with the title of Hmtth and
Education, is a sketch of that stern old Scotch
patriot and |>oet, George Ijuchanau* Bescribiiig
the visit paid to Bucluinan in his last illness by
tlie Melvilba, Mr. Kingsley says :—
"They found tlie old sage, true to his school mas terV
instincts, teaching the Hornbook to his eei-vani kd, and
he told them that doing that wu better than etealing
sheep or eiitiug idle, which was as bftd."
Mr. Kingsley follows the common stereotyped
version of the atory. All the biogniphical dic-
tionaries, Scotch hiatoriea.and memoirs of Buchnnan
have th La phrase *• stealing fsheep.'* But in the
original MS. of James Melville's Diary, Jn the
Advocates' Library, and printed by the Wodrow
Society, the passage stanch thus : —
"When we cum to hij [Buch&n&n'eJ chalmer, we fand
htm fitting in hie chaire, teatching his youii^ man that
aervifc him in hia clialuicr to spell r, h, ab; e, h, cb, &c.
Efter wilutation, Mr, Andro wiyea, ' I sie, air, yie are
nocht ydle/ * Better this/ quoth he, 'norsteUingaheipe,
or sitting ydle, quhiik is tils ill ! ' "
Kow, to Btcll is, in old Scotch, to plac€^ to $et,
** Stell your feet," fix your feet firmly. " Stell
Fishings '• arc salmon fishings where nets Jie \kt*
manently fixed. Old George had fonr
enough to teach his '*chalmer boy" hi^ 1
still he thought it was better, less hopNtde*
ateUinff or placing sheep where it was wiKhi*
should remain. Every one acquainted with
matters knows how difficult is this task
may illustmte it by a humorous story w]
heard the late Scottish judge, Lord Robertson
the famous " Lord Peter," or '' Peter o' ti _
paunch" — relate: — A certain Highlaml fiheep-l
farmer, known as Corrychoilie, wa«$ one evenii
seated with his compeers over their toddy, ani
boasting of his numerous flocks and berd^, H4
admitted that Prince Esterhazy bad more shi
than he himi?elf had, but then the Prince had
rent to pay. After some gasconading of this kini
one of the fraternity interpoBcd :— ** Come, Co
choilie, vou are roakiag yourself as gr^
Duke of WeDington;'—" The Duke of W .
replied the other; "it was easy for the DuUi
put doiiTi his men at Waterloo — a reginient
und a regiment there ; they would all stand ! Btil]
let him trj^ to put down ton thou&and sheep, fo^i
bye [besides] black cattle ^ at Fidkirk Trj'Bt, an<i
it's my opinion he would make a very confused
buzzness of it." C.
Thomas Campbkll, though ao careful a i»oelJ
ha« made a strange mistake in his FUoMwrm ^j\
Hope : —
" ThuB, white EUJah's bumittg wheels prepare
From Cartners heights to sweep the fields of ^ttJ*
Elijah ascended from the bank of the Jofdon,
opposite Jericho,
Camplwll 'svrote a better Irish national poem,
0*Connor)f (luld^ than any Irishman ever pr^
duced. Yet he showed, in a little matter, a
curious ignorance of Irish custom. He calls hb
" Hari)cr's dog Tmy.^ I have never known thai
name given to any dog in Ireland*
In the same ballad, he made as great a blanker
as any Hibernian could fall into ; when he pt
into tile blind mivn's mouth, ** nor refaseil my tut
crust to bis pilifnl fact**
In Campbeira Thcodric—
*' Blindfold hij natire hUls he coold hare trod **
may be paralleled by Guarini, /^Po^faj'/'ido, v. I :—
" Se ne' eonfini tuoi» madre gentile,
Foss' io ^unto a cliiuii occhi^ anco t*arrei
Troppo ben conosciuto*^*
S. T. P.
'* Sconce." — A fort or bulwark ; a catidloetick |
affixed to a wall, the movable socket f^f i\ caiul
stick ; slang word for the head-
English dictionaries, to which I hav
the forms of this word in various
guages, but no derivation ; Ogilvic
derivation aa ** uncertain,'* I thini^ i •
come upon it accidentally in a pa£:sage ii
'&tt8iw.M.7<.i NOTES AND QUERIES.
firmnc's Consiituiiont^ circa 1072 (Wilkins'd Con-
€iHa, t. i*^ pp. 347, 348, qaoted in Willis's
Conventual Buttdings of Vanierbury^ p. 89, n,)i —
"Tunc emm acceDea candela in abaconsa, unus
eonun iniionnitorio deb<?t ciicumire loctos omniurn,
et omnift aedUia in necessariis,'^ Ie«t any brother
fthould be found dozing when he ought to be
j^^ .....»;.... Ahnoma here ia evidently a lantern
in candle is huldtn for protection, hence
~ s. '■ ,u-:-Ji. So a protection to those besieged.
•* icsonce " lUJiy hare got applied to the
the sense of lantern (so "caniatcr''),
ably with reference to a lurtiip htnhnu In
solnshire, n tire-screen is, or waa, eddied a " fire-
Bitfteld Hal], DtiriiAm,
J. T. F.
(We mu«t request correspondeuiB deainng information
on family maiten of otdj private intorcat, to affix ihctr
I and addi'eiies to their queries, in order that the
1 WAf be Addrettdd to them directs]
Ikigo Jones and Philip^ Earl of Pembroke,
^I am shy about differing with Dr* Rimbault
on such ft point, but I have never been able to
ifttisfy myself that he w.i8 right in so confidently
averting C^N. & Q./\4** S, x. 117) that the
wiiter of the ALS, notes in a certain copy of Ini^o
JoneuH Stonthcngc lifstond was " undoubtedly
InigtVg ol<l rival, iiir Balthazar Gerbier," KDr,
RiMUAULT bus seen the volume, and identifies the
handwriting, my doubts will be greatly shaken ;
but even then there are certain points in the
ncril ' which I should find it difficult to
re* li hiB theory.
I j» ii> uj;a morning I myself knew nothing more
ftbout the volume than ia stated by Walpole at
p» 411 of liiii Aneaiotes of Painting (Womuurs
etlition) ; but, while turning over the leaves of
Onbonie'a Harleiim (■utalogne, I unexpectedly
imme upon the following uotict*, which I susiiect
tellit more than has hitherto been generally
known :—
** Tbii Itook has it-* njar^infl If^iiles, topi, and bottomB,
bi maoy (eavet ) almost written throughout, with lome
of ttic fetratigeit notes perhaps to he met witli, no wayt
nlftliag to tin? ^ ■ "^ -tier, nor to one another except
bi one or t\< o ; . book is ii)»eril>ed by J. WebU
to Pliilip, Ear i:e and Montgomery, aomciime
I^"^ -T Charles I., and Chttiicellor of
Oi II Lia own copy, for the Baid
, "L^i^i, writ Ilia own un-r"^ «i.;.o, j^
1) hand with that in ^^ i ^e
'f hit memory and inui rf*
boiJM.' lul lowing po«a«B8or;, or r
ha^, diJCOTering the said wriling to be '
liM written in Ch« margin r^'^f^i not fhU namct -■ - - <^ ,
Mtui iff Ffmirokt and M tnu ihB ^trxter oj
JicN ^d ntdt*, A. MV /e ttuttHfed kttn tk
MUimg Aim a Mttdmutu, thnn i^ to^^y^fj ftt ko* illiterate
I mud e«mid aof tortttf his namt, Thd noi«s aix written in
Latint French^ and Engliah, in pro«e and verse, 000*
laluing truth, fiction, trificp, matteni of useful intclli'
^cncc; tome enough to make you merry, others melan^
choly. Ue seems to hare been under the diaple&rnra of
Cromwell and hia daughters^ Of the former be fays,
' RaYilliac Cromwell is to bo pulled a pieces with wild
horsea upon London streets, and then to be hanged,
drawn, kc, not decapited (rie) in je»t.' In the tame
page where he hus ^vrit his name be liaa these worda,
* If he be mad^ is my lady Hanrood sais (whose tongue
ia no slaunder), it is rather for wanting the 10,00(V, a ^enr
his father promised to jfire liim, than that he thinks
0,000/. a year too much for htm to manage with Wiilon
and Jiavuhurtf; for he is yery learnedly proud, and
proudly learned.* Ia soTcral places he baa mentioned
Inigo Jonea, I be King's Surrey or, nffirming in one placs,
* He had for twenty years together sixteen thousand
pounds a year for keeping the king's houAos in repair,
and yet they lay worse than any house in TumbulL
Street.' But la one place he augments his salar^r very
much when be says, 'llinnico Jones, alias Iniquiiy
Jones, a justice of peace, and of th« quorum ; i and
cuitoB rotulorum ; hath for keeping the king's houses in
repair deux r/m mil tic% prr an, threescore thoosand
pounds iterltng a year, \ and well paid : He is fourscore
years ould«' '*
I at first thought that the body of the book,^iSi^
was not unlikely iu those troubled times, had beer
print^3d off some years before the date of the title*
page, and that the writing mighty after aH, be that
of Philip the fonTih earl ; but, on looking more
narrowly into the volume, I see that it waa un-
doubtedly put together after Inigo was in his
grave J aod he, it is known, survived this earl by
some two yean*. But why may not the notes be
the work of PhOip the fifth earl, to whom the
book is dedicated \ He was turned out of the
Cockpit, the moist desirable residence in London,
by the daughters of Cromwell ; and, 00 hia attain-
ing the earldom, he is exceedingly likely to have
had a long architect's bill pre.sented to him,
Charles IL, too, thought him mad in his latter
days, and I am not sure that t'larcndon does not
hint the same of him a good deal earlier*
The descriptions in the Harleiau Catalogue
are known, in many instances, to have been writ-
ten by Samuel Jobniion before bis stylo had as-
soraed the stately march of the ItamhUr and the
Idler. In the above extract, d<K*3 not the "mar-
ginal eruptions of memory and imagination " carry
a little of the Johnsonian flavour with it I
CniTTKLDROOO.
Field.— Under the heading "Pan" (N. & Q.»"
5*** 8. ii. 178), it was incidenUdly remarked that
'* Mvhen JUUI was spelt ffcU (with two /a), it hatl
not the contracted sense now associated with it^
but generally reprei^eoted a large tract of open
hind /or campus, cleared of timber."
^ in only find JUUI fipelt ffM in MSS. of the
[ith centiiry. Can any corretspondent tell
]ij>" Mi earlier iostances i I except instances in
which the appnrent double / is really a capital
letter. The common A,-S, spelling hfcktj with a
single /> as iti German. Can any one kindly point
S08
NOTES AND QUERIES.
to a single acnip of direct eWdence in any old
author for the belief that the word meant specially
a piece of " et eared ground " / The A.-S. fdd
occurs in Bent, xrxir, 8, where the A. V. haspZainJ,
hut it is not aatd that thes^ plfiins had 'been
fonued by (Uaring. I am cnrions to know if the
oommon idea of connectinii: fidd with the verb to
fdl can be substantiated by any evidence beyond
mere guesswork, Wjlltkr W. Skeat.
"Private History of thb Couut of Eng-
ULND." — Can any rotidcr of ** N» & Q. " familiar
with the flAtirical and saindaloUB Itteritture of the
Georgian era, say who was the author of a little
work, in two volumes, published in XWS under
the title of Th4 Pfivaie liiitory of tfu Court of
England f It professes —
*' To give a ekelch of the priirate life of Edward IV.
and hLs coart before the death of Henry YI., till whose
death be cert&iiilj could not be eaid to enjoy the croim
in perfect i»eurtiiy» thouf^h there ia every reason io atyle
him the Heir AmREXT to the throne of Euj^land,"
The " Heir Apparent " whose stor}- is related is, of
course, the Princie of Wdea, afterwanls George IV, ;
And as the writer ia a pHiTtiiMUi of his unfortunate
wife, the tone of the wonc may eaaily be anticipated.
P. H,
Ben JonpoNj Junior.—
*'Tho Poems of Ben Johnson, Junior. Being a Mi§-
celaine of SeriouEneag, Wit, Myrth and My^terie. la
VulpoDe. The Dream. Iter Bevoriale. Songi, &o.,
composed by W. 8. Gent, Lond.^ 1()72L'*
This eccentric production hjxs been usually
placed by catalogue- makers under the name of
JonsoD, and has, in coaseciuence, often been
cribed to a suppoHititious son of the famous Ben,
llthough it m plain from the title-page that there
•was no intention to deceive. The ]»ook possesses
some Shakspearian interest, owing to its allusions
to the Lucy family, and it is desirable to discover
the name of the author. There is a poetical dedi-
cation to "the Rt, Hon, Walter, Lord ^\ston/'
whose mother was the daughter of Sir Thomas
Lucy of Charlcote, in the conrae of which^ alluding
to Sixall, the writer says : —
" Here I my noble ancestors of old.
Tracing the steps of charity, heboid
By Lore's fair hand to mine own cradle led
Alton and Lucy joyaed in one bed.'*
And again f in another poem, To all the anciint
Famihf of the Litrifeji, and to all thir honourahh
cxtractitm^f h« tells us that —
" From thia clear spring, I am a Utile streun/'
so that he would seem to have bet'u a member of
the family. At the end of the book^ but apparently
part, of it, is the following curious advertisement:—
*♦ A new found medicine for maladies, not haairdous,
deaperate or fiolent ^ but saJe and aure, pleasant, paUt-
*l>le and comfortable ; not putting nature to any strcBa
ttt greatly strengthening, relieving and enj^>ltng her to
'encounter with her maJignant enemies, ic Found out
this instant , 1671, By the great c»tc and study of
A B. C. H. Item- There may be had pie
itiei for the preventioo of di^eaee*. ^ » -' —
fulness, improvement of diet and ^
From Mr. Wadde?,
i.
in White's
U, Wtiaws
i yvQ issy
Enqmre at Mr. Homer*i at the K
Alley in Chaiiccry Lane for C*|«l
any morning, and from eleroi till
hare farther information."
I can find no clue to tlw authorship in tiic cnb
lection of Stiall J*o€try^ edited by Mr. CMurd,
but there was a copy of the work in the Scull
Library. C. Elliot Beowvk,
The Blue Flowsk of Ghaskkpoiul — Pedttw
iK»me corre^jKindtint may be able to give tie
botimical name of the small cerulean blue flower,
which I have only noticed j^tOhazct [ ^ "' nnpU),
where it is found mixed with the < of
that beautiful hiwnlike canlonuitivL
with elegant Ccuuarinwi). This flower is
like that of a Kalmia^ grows dose to the _
and imparts its own hue to the wide expaxuBe
^rrnasy pkin. Its texture and colour resembk llie j
blue Ncmovhih. Its stem and leaves aw
small, and bear no pwoportion to the ai«e of
blossom. The latter fades away entirely, and
disappears under the increasing heat of the 9tin, «
that no ventige*) of it arc ever seen ' A-**
From diWTi until breakfiist-time^ or dew
is still on the ^und, the plain h blue wiih il«
myriad blos.^otUH, but it cannot bear thift woiihiOT
If brought t<j England^ it would be a ««i
embellishment to Jawna, provided it caM It
acxjimatized. 6w
Two CiirRCHRs m OsTE Churchyard. — Vam
instances of this occur in the Eastern Coaiiti««
viz., 1. At Bmy St. Edmnnds, where the laf|?paod
impofiing churches cf *St. James and St. iUrf i
stand but a short distance from each other in jm
extenaive churchyard, to which the fin© oM ^^
man tower serves as a Htting pnrtnL
2. At Swaflhmn Prior, ^ liw j
churches of St. Mary and St dm I
proximity in one churchyard, the furiucr^ Lywewfi j
being now in ruina,
3, The churchef < P "' *
in the parish of \N
St. Cybristcpher, at \^ ijiiti^;ij
buOt in the same enclosure. 1
last, Morant, in liis iZit/f- "
churches of these two A\
same churchyard, the ren
remaining 4jows.^ Po^
of ** N. ^ Q." may be ali
the sin^fuhxr practice of erect
auch close contiguity. Are u
* Lord OomwalUs't ehmic nooomevi bI
middle of the plain, and contaiai » ilab»
think, by Fl&xman.
> a. IL San. 12,71.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
209
Knfsland ftimikrly situated t If »), it wotdd be
Mc to hovc a list of them* if your retiders
llurniftUit Tnos. Bird,
Riev, Br. STyotKroK, op Rdgbt.— In Pile's
Mutitif^ Hovse^j p. 123, is the foUowing
1 ; — '** He (Bennett) obtained a tutorship
I lie tjiraily of X>r. Sin^tdon, the tjedtd head
of Hughy HchooV No dnte is given, but I
lie that Singleton was sl Puritan placed over
BchooL in the time of the usuqiiition, and
♦'1^' "ti St. Bartholomew *>i day. There ia no
\t respecting hiin at Eugfby. Poiisibly
be a funeral ^rnion relating to Single-
on in the Britis^h Mu.*euiii or Dr, Williams'sj
libmj, if any one will kindly look. J. R. B.
Ttxumi!to*B PRovF.nns, — The compiler of this
- the hite William Henry Ireland, of
^e forpcry notoriety. Ireland waii in dis-
ni Llie time of its publicfition, and it wa.n an
pi to niise the wind. The proverbs came
nut the *,%nie time iia Irel.ind^s translation
litaires Pncflle d'OrUnm. The lat^ M. A.
fttn, of Piersbridgc, produced a very superior
ton Proverb*!. He quotes F'iehlinj;, not bdui;
I tliHt Ireland wrw the author, but supposiu^
Ithc bof»k waa by the author of Tmn Jones and
\n Wild. Is Olphar Hamst aware of the
ore IJicts ? Stephen Jackson.
iL Paintixo. — I have an oil pmnting on a
ler-plate, size 12 x 15 in. ; Rubject, flower* in
backgn^und a stone reces» ; aiuon^
! a number of buttertlies, eaterpilhirs,
? flowers, and particularly the insects,
' done with ;;reat fidelity, and are of exquisite
]t !^ V r,< (1 C, V. Bert^he, or Bertie (the
V. in r , and dated 1G17. Can any
D* give tj tion nl»out the artist ? L.
Diiodee.
Or ' I h ,1 !iN!y pir^ked up an
^Id t \'.Jni li 1 -liMiild likt:' to Ifjirn
lifinitikdly executed in
ti boy ami girl (evideJitly
.y, .i. - ;.v<. ..Lh-centuiy costume; the
"IfidiniT and playing,' with a fawn, round
^ which he seems about to place a garland
rre ; the jfirl seated, with a King- Charles
jtn her I, I TV The dog is i*narling ai the
Villi]. The scene is the portico
a I jKirk in the distance. The
^obouL ftiAteen inche.< hif^h by ten wide,
ijiip-n being entirely gone, there ia no
biiitory. W. H.
rtbttTv.
lutely i«een an old
lit t lie middle of the
ftnitrfiili v^Ettilury, primed upon vellum or
parchment by one Edmund Blount. If any reader
of *' N. k Q/' can tell me where this Edmund
Blount lived, and when he died, it will enable me
to assign a dale to the paint tug. H. S. G.
Sir Arthitr Gorge. — I have a letter from
Francis Foster to "Sir Artbure Gorge at Dun-
kerque,'' dated 1634, in which is the following
p>astkag«: —
" My Lord Stanford, who ia gon po«t to Paris, had
order from hia Matie to atop yoa. I met also with
another gentlcttiiui who had ye same matter recomoicficl
unto hhn from noble friend*. You must needa dr*we
yuur relaiioQ conipl^atly, and send to England bj the
^Tft to ftonie of voar noble fnendj to di«poBieaae them of
other relations.'
To what does this refer 1 Spkriend.
Piracy.— Can any one tell me the name of the
vessel the crew of which was tried for piracy oU'
Jamaica / The first Marquis of Sligo appetired as
a witness* on oath in the case. Veritas.
" Iron y iRfiiN," N(trembkro. — Where shall I
find any historical account of this instrument ?
Geo. C.
James Margetson.^ Archbisiiop of Armauh.
—Who wiw his wife ? K. P. D. K
mepiicis.
DOMINGO G0N8ALES.
(5'^ S. ii. 110.}
I wonder your corresj>otident, in his cjnery con-
cerning the authorship of TW Strange J oifage and
Adrcniures of Ikimin'jo Gonsaks to (he World, in
the Mootif 2nd edit., 17<>8, did not refer to the
following paragraph on p. 5 : —
"Itiain this Ifiknd [St. Helena] that the Scene of
that notable Fancy, called Thr Man tw fA^ Mmm, or a
Digfoune of o Voyrnjc thttAcr, by Ik/mtn'/o Goiuaiet, tS
Jftid, written by a' learned BUhop, ^aith the ingeDiom
liiirhop Wiikint, wlio callB it n fdcKBant and well-con-
triTtd Fttney in hi^ owu Book, iniituled A Di^cunt of
the A fir World, tend tufj to ^o^€ (Aid if > pottibU thin
nut tf Iff anothn- /ntf*itatfte l^ orld in t/u Moot*. ... Now
this snmll Tract having po Worthy a TefRm to vouch for
it, and many of our Effjluk lltBtorians baviog publi«bed
for Trtitb %^hat is almost as itsprobable oj thi^. as Sir
John, Mandavxl, in his Traveli, and others, aud thia hav*
ing what they are utterly deatitate of, thnt i^ Invention
mixed with Judjgment;*and ^rt ' v to be
Xiieeused fifty yemw ago, and not hereby
it would be utterly loat. I hare : .-„ i'Ubhsh
tUe Substance thereof."
The book ia, in fact (" the second edition " of),
a modernized verbion of The Man in Vte Moone :
or, a Diicmne vf a Voyage thither hrj Dominrjo
(JonsalcB, the Spcnfy McMcn^er^ Loi
Thia clever ^torj^ waa written by *' a pi ^
lover of vencn\ble antiquity and <d all ^imhI
literature/'— Br. Fnincis Gmlwiri (Bishop of
Lhindatr in l(R»l, and Of Hereford 1<;17), ** while
NOTES AND QUERIED
[5»*8,iLsiFt*i*,rrt
he was a etudenfc of Ch. Ch., under the feigned
name of Donimgo Cronzales, and piiblishe<l some
years after the autbora death br E. M* (of Ch.
Oh^y'—AUiciu Oxon., ed. 1815, ii'. 55?.
Diinlop, in his History of Fi4:tion (ed. 181 0^
Hi. 394), mentions "the Spanish work of Domintco
Oonziiles." He takes Dominic for the real author
of (he **Spaniah " work !
Hallara {LiUraturc of Enropf, ed. 1854, iii.,
108) says that, **by some internal proofs, it must
have been [written] later than 159!>, und before
the death of Elizabeth in 16(>3. But it was not
published till 1038.** Watt and Ailibone are
mistaken in sayinr; the book was published in
Perth. *^London» Printed by John Norton, for
loshua Kirton, and Thomas Warren, in38," ia on
the titlc-pa^c. It was tnmf^luted into French, and
published in Paris in 1048, under the title —
*' Ij' Homme dan* la Lune, ou le Voynge Clilmiirique
fait au mumie de la Lunc, nouvillcmcnt dccouvett |ar
Doriiitjiquo Gonzales ATantmicr Kspftirriol, autrcmciit
dit le Counier Volaat, luia in nostra Lftngttc par J. B. D.
[Jean Baudoinl."
This tnmslation was reprinted in 166B and
1731. Cyrano de Ber*^^enKs the author of the
Votj*igt to the Moon and Huiory of tht Mmpirt of
the Sttjt^ *^ hud modern fictions, especially the
Voijtujt: to the Moon^ by Godwin, . , . which be
had evidently read, to iuip the win^s of an inven-
tion not perhaps eminently fertile '* (Halkm) ; and
it is to De llergerae thiit Swift i^ Biiptioyed to be?
indebted. I rather should think Swift borrowed
directly from Bishop Godwin, particularly in his
Voijogc to Laptitn,
Wood (Athcn. Oxon.) observes : —
'*Tbia book (wliich hath before the title of it the
nictyrc of n man taken up from the top of a i»ountain,
by %n engine drawn up to the moon by certain tljxag
birds) " —
(This curious engraving is, however, p. 15, the
letter-preBs being continued on the back of the leaf.)
" was ceni»»red to be u Train sa the ot>inion of Coper-
nioufi. or the strange diicoursea of the untipcdcft ^> hen
first heard cf. Vet since by a more irLquiflitirc search iu
iiura?c1Hng thos^ iritrioactes.meti of aoliil judgments have
&ince funrid out a way to pick up that which utay mid a
very considerable knonlcdf^eand advantA|^f't*> posterity f []
Aniong which Vr. Wilkin^, sometimes lithhop of Chester,
complied by hints tlu-nce (fiven ias 'tis iLought) a
learned piece, called A Ihgcovtry o/ a iVru* Worttl tu the
Either Wood had not rend this "lenrned piece,"
or he did not believe Dr. Wilkins ; for the Bishop,
at the end of his Ducova-ij (5ih ed., 1708, p. Ki3),
says : —
** Having lhu» fitiieliifd this Dificour^c, T chanced upon
a late Fancy to I hie purpose, under the feigned name of
Itoun'ngo Uontuk*^ written by a lute Hevcrend and
Learned Bbhop : Jn which (be&ideH isundrv Partioulars
iffhcreiQ this Utter Ch«pter did unwitlingfy agree with
it) there i» delivered a very pleasant and welhcontrived
Fancy concerning aVo^aife to this cxther World. Uo
suppoieth/' kc.
Both bookii were published anonymoiialy in 16<l^
The 1768 edition professes to be ** thm )
edition '' of "a tnvct licensed lil'ty yean j
in 1746 the modern version of Bi>"fi*>u
lKX»k had lM*en reprinted in the ei
the Harliian MisaUany^ without
the author^ or a.^ to the existence of i
version, under this title :^
'* A View of SL Helena, an Island in tlie
Ocean, in A mtrica, now in Pop««s¥i'>n of tb*'
i'kixt Indta Company J where ' '
in their Indian VoyagiML
admirable Voyage of Xto
Spanianl, to the World in lk« Jdwoii,
several Ganm^s, or larg« Geese. An i
written by a late learned Bishop, X/mc^u < ^i^
Ing forty- three Pages."
In the re-is9ue of the Harleian MifctHany ia 1
1811 thi!^ is again reprinted with the same titb $t
before and the heuding, on the lf>i» "if • •> b
** Wilkins*B Views of St. Helena, H"
the Moon.'^ In a note to the w ^^
fifty year^ ogo '* the editor says^ " The oidy pP^l
cedent edition, which the editor has utet with, ill
in 1«38, 8vo., inritled The Man in ih< J'
Why did he not point out tlmt he wxin t
not the old story, but a modem and spoilt ^
And why attribute it to Bishop Wilkin?, w!l
the text (I have already given the passiigt) '
ingenious Bishop Wilkins" is quoted as aHtih«t'|
in<^ the book to another prelate /
Although I am afraid I have taken np too i
spiice, I would COD elude with Hallam^s opintoii of|
the book : —
*• Godwin .... had no prototv'pe, as far ae T
Luci&Q. He resembles [him and Swift] in
itnd Tcracioufl tone of hid lies. The tiction s
g<?nioua nnd amusing throughout ; but the most i
able part i» the happy conjectures^ if wo xamv i
mnre, of his philosophy. Xot only ''"
dtfclaro pofitiF«?ly for the Copcmican >[■
uncommon at that time, but h^ hft« ^
etond the principle of
po<cd that the cartL
distance. Nor is the : ^ ,
* I mu^t let you understand that tii« gtobv ul the 1
is not altogether destitute of ru attractive pow^r ; buL
b far weaker thnn that of the earth ; a^ '
fprinp upwards with h11 his force, ns
tiaey show tbcir activity by captrin^, h
mount 6fiy or liity feet high, and tht^u h*
hcjond all attraction of the moon/ By this dttic
fionmlex returaa from Ilia sojourn in tt
it required a more complex one t« I
' The moon,' he olecrtcs, ' i-? cnrnn^j^ %
the parts which seem s*mM r
dry land/ A contrary hyi
prevail; but we mutit not ■u.^^vw . ,^. . ,..
ingenif>us young student.** — Ltieraturtoj Evr^fff^td
lb64, ill, 168.
Sparks Henderson WiLLUlffi.
18, Kensington Crescent, W,
P.S.— Bishop Wilkins** book is roviewed b 1
Etiro^ptctixc lUviciVy 1823*
S» an Sift. 12, 711
NOTES AND QUERIES.
211
RoUKRTSON Family (5*^ S. ii. 127.)— The
BabeitaoDs of Stnum id Perthsliire for anns carry,
ovie*, 3 wolres* heads crsLsed, argent^ armed and
^^ri^? .>-,j^y ; cmst, a dexter hand holding up an
IlD] vn proper; motto, inrUUis gloria
iM«ri . _-. lirst of this family, as Nisbct undcr-
^ stood, was A litincan MacdoDalvl, who bid a grant
tl>f" StTOjm (Btrowan) for kiliiug wolves ; and a
Robert by name, kiving apprehended
^ftCrtie murderere of James I» of Scotland — the
'^mtiidcr haviBg been committed within the monas-
' tery of the Hlack Friars at Perth in February,
1436 — if not the chief instrument in the ius&assina-
. tiou. Sir Robert Gndiam, the family have, on that
f abccouQt, ever since borne a wild man chained
[tiiider the escutcheon of their arms. While Sir G,
Iteijxie would view the horizontal position in
this man is placed tis equivalent to what is
in bluxonry a *^ corapartmentv* Nisbct con-
Btheman as a dtvim^ox ** honourable supporter/^
cacJcts of this famdy have a<lopted the same
but With *' ditt'erences" ; as FaskaUy, MuLr-
^ewbi^ing, I'mnent, Ji:c. (Niebet'^ iiydcmy
323, ii, 135 ; Mackenzie's ikience, chap. 31,
ipu »5» Plate p. ^U ; and Seton's L. and F. of
[ Mtraldry, p. 277). L.
A full account of the Robertsons, or clan Dona-
Lchu«« i» given in Andersoa^s ScoiiUh Nation, Edin.
[and LomL, \&j3. From this excellent work I
BQOte the following interesting account of the
ricol incident (.-oinmenjomted by the crest (*' a
anu erect, holding a rcg:d crown, all ppr."),
[ the lingular external additameut to the diield
af a wild man lying in chninB thereunder : —
**F ' -'►n ('.*'., I>uncni»'i, lord of EiLnndck)
Molty ^rimthd), who tuceceded birn, the cl»ii
dbrii NC of Robertson. Tbia Kobert was noted
for c y incuffiioni into the Lowkmda, and if
bill vrn h$ the chief >4ho arreited and de-
Lj|. L.; ihe vengeance of the government Robert
I liml the Ma«t«r of Atholl, two of the raurdtrcra
D(M l.f for ^bkh he ivaa rewarded with a crown
dated in U51, erecting his whole lands into a
Krony. lie alio received tlio honourable augmen-
ti-nifi of a naked man manacled under the
li the motto rirttitii gloria taerca. Me
i?n<!ef1 in the head near the village ttf
li Robert Forrj-Btcr of
difipute regarding the
.. Ling up hia head with a
doth, he rude to Perth, and obtained from the
I new grant or the lands of !^t rowan. On hit re-
) he died of his wounds). He bad three ion it,
ibb\ Bobeft, aud Patrick, Iiobert» the second
[ In^ ancestor of the earla of I'ortmorc, a title
Ktiaet/*
Cmftn} Artftory has the story thus^
w of Robert, cliief of the chin,
oura^e and intrepidity appre-
the ttim-itireiTB of Jamei^ L of Seotlandf
IL ^*raott;d to his family "the cre^t and
•oU *' iha man lo chains lying under the
escutcheou of the arms was also adopted in com-
memoration of this event.** C. S* K.
Kythan Lodge, Soathjpfcte, N*
The Island Iris [r^^ S. ii. 129) of Diodonwi
Siculua is the Hibernia of Ciesar, Tacitus, and
Pliny, the Juvcrna of Mela (iir. fj), and CeUarius
(Orbis AntxqMi^ L 449), and the lema, upi^y, of
Stntbo and Aristotle {Dt Innnd^ c. 3), names
ohviously deriving their origin from the nativo
appellation of Ir, Eri, or Erin. Strsiho (iv. c. 5,
par. 4), after describinjr lerna oa an island " of
great extent, lying parallel to Britain, towards the
north, long or rather wide,^' confirms Diodorus
Sicuhis by stating that —
** Its Inhabitants are more savage than the Britons^
/<r«/ni<7 Oft A« man /<^*A, and enormous eaterf» and deem-
ing it commendable to devour their deceaatd fatherg. . . .
This we relstej perhaps/* the author further states,
" without very cumpetent authority, although to eat
haman tle^h is said to be a Scjthian custom, and during
the severities of a fiiegCj even the KelL* and IberUns,
and many others^ are reported to have done the like/*
The inhuman custom of eating a deceased parent
is likewise related by Herodotus (lib. i. 216) of the
Mas<iageta% and the Issedoni (lib. iv» 26).
History records three examples of a people being
driven to the extremity of eating huaian llesh : the
Gauls, during their wars with the Cimbri and
Teutonew (Ctcsar, lib, vii. c. 77); the inhabit;mtg
of Numantia when besieged by Scipio (Valerius
Maximus^ lib. viu c, 6) j and the city of PotidiEa
during the Peloponnesian war (Thucyd., lib. ii*
c, 70). William Platt,
Cottserrative Gub*
This is Ireland. Dii Cange tells ns, *'Irmsi^
Hiberni apud Grden Vitalis, lib. ii. and 12, nostris
Irois, A vuee Hitrc vel /re— *quiu iis populis
Occidentem sonat,"' By Ordericus Vitalia the
Hiberni are called Iren?e^^ by our people /roi>,
from the word Hure or Ire^ which among that
people means the AVest. Ptolemy named it Brit--
annia Parvaj while other ancient writers havo
variously called it Jcrna^ Juvirna^ Iru. From
the last, no doubt, we get Eriiij Inland^ and Iruli\
Edmund Tew, M.A
The word*l^t"5 in Diodoms Sicuhis is a form of
Eri^ the Gaelic name for Ireland. Late researches
have rendered it plausible that Eri or Erin is
connected with the Sanscrit *4rj^, the natne chosen
for themselves by the settlers in India in contra-
distinction to the nomadic races. The etymological
Mgnitication of Arya is thought to be **one wha
ploughs or tills " ; in later Sanscrit it means nobU^
vr!l-hf>nt. See Midler, Scimce. ♦/ Lnngtiage^ u
23P.-247. A L Mathew.
Oxford.
PfijvY Council JrDCMENTs : Liddell^ Wks-
TKRTON (5^ S, ii. 12S, 157, 175.)— It aeema to me
that the case of the alteration mode in the |ud^-
212
NOTES AXD QUERIES
inent of the JndkiaJ Committee should be stated
in fnlrness with the dute oi it« being made^ and
the authoritj for it, to aroid the sunnises which
have arisen.
The jud;»i2jont was delivered on Ala-rch 21, 1957,
by the Hon, T. Peniberton Leigh, afterwards Lonl
KingHdown. In the same year an authenticated
report of the St. Paurs and Rimabaa causes, *' fi&
heard and detemuned by the Cunaistoiy Court of
London^ the Arches Court of Canterbury, and the
Judicial CommiUt^ of the Frivy Council," by
E. F. Moore, M.A,, Barrister-at-Law, was pub-
lished by Longmans & Co. (London, 1857^1. The
Preface is dated August 21, and contains these
very important statements by Mr. M»x^re : — " I
have had the advantage of submitting the final
judgment to the learned Jud^e who delivered it,
who huf* obli«;in^ly made one or two tyjjognipbical
emendations/' I am ** the professional reporter of
the C4WieH," and ** the only pwa^essor of the materials
of which an authentic report of this important cjtse
t^uld be formed.''
At p. 197 there is this note, which explains the
matter: —
** The reporter has been requeiied to add the follow-
ing note:— A correctron hun bten introduced of an
erroaeouB pasBaite whicb in the jad||:ment us delivered
atrtod tlnw : that the PruTcr for the coneecratioQ of the
clcm<^nt8 wa» oiuitted. tlmutfU in the preieDt Prayer
Bouk it is reatoreJ.— T. P. L."
The words inserted in the judgment instead of
the above are—** Mate rial alterations were intro-
duced in the Prayer of Consecration."
It appears, therefore, that the alteration wa.s
made by Lord Kingsdo^wu, within tive months of
the judgment being delivered by him, before the
publityition of tlie authentic report, tbtit it is cer-
tified by his initials^ and authenticated l»y the
reporter. Tlie mistake was publicly acknowledged
by the Judge who made it. It is not improbaldc
tliat the other meml>ers of the Committee oidy saw
the draft judgment before it wa» delivered.
Ed. Mausiuxl,
Swidford St. Martin.
The way in which the two prelates, Bumner rind
Tait, fell into the error of declaring that the Prayer
of Consecmtion was left out of the second boi>k of
Edward VI, is probubly this: being profoundly
ignorant of Liturgiology, they took up one of thof^c
ibnoka which compared the two Liturgies, and
I placed them side by side in iwiraliel robiTuni*. In
I tlie first liook the Prayer of Coni»ecration comes at
] an earlier stage than in the second, accordingly the
I column of the second is blank. Without looking
further, they concluded thiit it wan wholly omitted 1
In the Purchas judgment the Archbishop of
York made an equally inexcusable blunder. On
rthe question of the mixed chulice, the iJean of
'Arches iiiled that it is not allowed to mix the
ehjilice in the middle of the office, but that it mtiy
be Lawfully doizie in th# Sacristrv ht^ne tli»«
meaopment of ''- -^^ ^'^ *"^- ^— ^
comicnmed, &:•
in any branch <>* ,.,. .. i oat,
after the delivery of t!i o fia
from being an unknown , ' fgdar
order in the Greek Church,
It would have been well if thesr nkoet rovgwoi
prelatee had followed the example of medivfil
times, and colled in the fid vice of learned mcft,
usually called iJimfl^gwfii^ before giviiae jud^BMflL
Had they done so, suck blunideri woid d !»?» b«i
avoided. E. L. Bt-nnajcsorf.
" WoRMTuri " FOR Canixe Rabiesi (T*** S, I »«:
ii. 150.)— Had Juxii Nepos consulted tlie iraib
of the most eminent wTiters <r ' " n^gx,
he would have found that ''
gross error. Not a few pn juMtn.^ nn.:.ts is
Cherihire, the lenet- in formed county in E&^inl.
The ** Old Cheshire Gardener " is, perhsps, m ih
establishment of a certain Justice of the Pr^' '
these parts, who publicly awerted, not long ^mr^
at Quarter Sessions, that ** it was only the dop of
* loafers * who went mad, not the dog* of n^prct-
iible jieople." What would Buckle say '
Delabere Blaine, W'ho was first an nr:
and subsequently the ablest vet*''
and probably of any cotmtry in i
us —
" Worming, therefore, I Tv^sitwlr affirm, if »• •ft*
gu»rd whnterer against ral' i<tletflfHk
Tint creditAble to otir presei: olf loCDra^*
tion."— Ctiftinf PcUhdogy, i
Youfitt, Blaine^s pupil And ftucoenon; «rp <
'* worming^-: —
** For tbe eake nf htitn&nity, as well »a to atoid ikil
charge of igrior&iice, it ie to bo hoped thai Uite i>rM
wiH e|>eedily cease. ''^TAtf IM^, By WiUiam Y«
London, 18<j4.
ISkf ayhew's opinion is : —
** People who talk of m worm in the tongue of a te
only ftJiou f ' ^ tng it ilu«»
be reuiov.
'* As to V . 'Ad
teotioa in cubC ru>l>ic^
*o prcfwisteroufl tliat 1
Dog*: ihtir MtLtiiuji i^tt u i , i.j j^^+^^^i-^.^ ^.4Mt+L«.
Sixty-six dog^ have been massacred Ihia \
London streets. In fixty-tive thcrt
of mbies ; the other cum' was doi
son has died of hydrophobia this }
recently) in any bospitnl in the nu
other hand, there have been in i
two instances^, at leu.st, of men <i
fear of the disease ; one in Munrt
Hospital, and another in Liverpool fi
is very questionable if the epidemic tr-
by penny-a-liner?, panic-mongers
has not caused directly more poi^
(to say Bothing of ill health and nervou<&n4.d») 1
^^^n
J^&IL8inT.lS;7<.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
213
_»U the rvjkHr Tunt! dr>^i in the country. '* Riibie?
kntiiu '* I unknow^n in innnj lands, and
ml,,- . A» yet, one of the rarest of
GRonnR R. JitssE,
^ THE Cat/^ &c. (A"* S. iL 146.)—
ibe orijfinal and correct way of wordin^j
otto 18 " Touch not tlie cnt» but a glove/
nf i» Scotch for ttithout. To most people,
fiiDjar would Dot be clear, so there is no
in altering it to ** Touch not the cat without
Thomas Strattox
BmnfAsr's Imitators (5* S* iL 148.)— -Symon
" ely Bbthop of Chichester and Ely,
« a( GdinAborough, Lincolnshire, in 1628,
I at Ely, 1 707. A Ust of hia works niay be
I in Bohn's edition of Lowndes's BibluffP'aphfr's
^famut^l Thi Farahlc of the Pilgrim^ uritUn to
^^^Kbnd, Wiis ptiblLshed in 1665, in 4to., and hafi
^H^ni^^enJ times reprinted,
Th» aboY«-quot«d authority informs us that—
** tleia-^mlled Third Part {oiTht Pilgrim t PTo*jrfM*\
flnl prittted m 101^1^ and of which m flixth edition
>pptre<1 in 1705, ia b epuriout and contemptible pro-
Edward Pkacock.
XD A±5nEY (5*^ 8, ii, 148.)— See " Obser^ii-
the IILstorj' and Structure of the Abbey
Bletjsed Mary of Byland," by John Riehani
D» in the Frocctdingg of the Yorhhirt;
I Socittif^ 1864. CoRNun.
*i«! n r/nod account of By land Abbey in
oraceimi*t JJi^tory an(^ Autiqnitus
and it4 ^ci^Iihourkooil^ 1852,
. iul iii, Sajiurl Shaw,
Of this gneat Cistercian abbey» founded by
^Of^ de Mowbray in the year 1 134, ample ac-
iinl« will )ye found in Ihigdale {Monasticoii^
■ i, pp. 775 and 10*27, fol 1CS2), As to the
hood, and the " naine^ of the ancient
I jiresunie the bf«t sources of infor-
i woitJd he loc»l and topographical histories,
Edxcttd Tew, M.A.
rxh Qrernr (r»** S. iL 14&.}— In 134>S,
Gilbert, Bishop of Enaghdoeu or Enack-
led the restored church of Selrt, or
ing, in Sostfcx. The see was svihse-
rbed into the dioc«e of Tuam.
J. R. B.
, now AunAgluh>wn, and part of the
Tttam, to whidi it wan tiniteti kiiti*,
8<?e Archdeacon Cotton's Fa*t. Efcl
^g»k» IT. 5L CnARLES F. S. Warren, M.A.
H^Titic Tnojtvs Wextworth (5'*» S. il. 149) of
^MUm Hall, inquired after by P, N. L., must
!•¥« twso Sb Thomas Wentworth, baronet, son of
Sir William Wentworth, btironet, by his wife
iHana, dau<:hter of Sir William Blackett, of Wal-
lin^^oD, CO, Northumberland, baronet. Sir Thoma«
Wentworth died unmarried at Bretton Hall on
the 9th Jtilv, 1702. See Hunters South York^
$hirr, vol il'p. 244. K, P. D. E.
*'TuE Bird's Nest" (b^ S. iL 167.)— The pajj-
Sfige to which Mr. G, Wothrrspoon desires a
clue will be found in Hurdis's Pt/ia^e Curate, p. 43,
It runs as follows : —
** But mo«t of all it wioi my ftdmirstion^
To Tteir the Biructurv of thi § little work,
A bird's tieat. Mnrk it well, within, without ;
No too! hod be thnt wrou^rht, no knife to cot,
Ko nail to fii, na bodkia Co inj>eri,
Ko glue to join ; Am liuU fi*ol' trfu «!/,
And yet how nctiti ' ' ' ' * " ' ^ ^i 5 hsadp
With ere ry impl*i
.^nd twenty jear- t,
Could make me luch anotlier i Fondly thi^n
We boast of eicceltenoe, wbose noblest skill
Inttinctif e genius foils."
Hurdis, as a poet, is ahuost forj^otten. These
days of sensationidisra on the one hand, and metn-
pbysical obscurity on the other, are not f;ivourable
to the calm quiet desert pti on :^ of mral scenery and
conntr)' life which fonn the staple of his work*.
Yet there is much of true poetical inspiration in
his productionn. Those who delight iu the works
of Nature in their varied aspects, of the changing
seasons of the year and the daily vicissitudes of
the sk}^ and the earth, with the nuinl»erless asso-
ciations connecting them with human life, will find
a rich storehouse of beauty in The FavtmrUe
Village and Hn ViUage Curat*.
James Hurdia was born in 1763, and graduated
at St, Mary Magdalen, Oxford. He was tutor to
George Pelham, son of the Earl of Chichester,
afterwards Bisbc'p of Bristol. In 171)1, throuv^li
the interest of the Chichester family, he was ap-
pointed to the livinjj of Bishopstone, in Sussex^.
In 1793, he wiis elected Professor of Poetry in the
ITnivetsity of Oxford. He died in Beceraber, 18< Jl,
at the H^e of thirty-eight.
His Villagt Curate was published in 1788, and
met with a verj^ favourable reception, ha%'iniJ
passed through four editions within a few years.
Tlie Favour iu Villagt was printed at his own
private press in 18(K). He was also the author of
t^ir Th&iHOJi Mort, a Tragtdy^ and several proie
works.
His poeticjd works were issued in a collected
form in 181*t, forming two volumes, edited by the
author^s sisters. In tlie correspondence of the
poet Cowj>er, numerous letters will be found ad-
dressed to Hurdis, who was on the most friendly
terujs with the recluse of Olney.
J. A. PlCTOK-
Sandylmowe, Warertree.
a isv^HY •• ^ j^y ExpLFmT! (J^ 8. L 386.)— Tlie
habit of employing expletive ^VvnM»^ %^f^T«D»5ct
214
NOTES AND QITERIEJ
t5»ff,ILB»T.l,7i.
■witth a view of arresting or iixmg the attention of
a hearer, is very common in fill partB of the countrr;
f* gr., nrnnj persons prelii such a phraeK? as '* look
ye/* " mind ye," and ^o on ; while others adopt
another form, and place at the end of the sentence
some expreissions of analogous import, snch as
*' d' y' see ? " or " d' y- hear \ " In some of the
northern parts of Ireland it may be observed tlmt
when two persons are engajjed in earnest conversa-
tion, perhaps in vehement altercation, almost every
plintse is rounded tall' with a final " dear ! *' while
in the extreme south the term ** why " is similarly
employetL Now the suggestive note of S. T. P.
on the use of this latter expletive induces me to
pmpose a pjiir of queries. May not the northern
expression (which does not Hlways sound like a
term of endearment) be simply a nipid colloquial
contraction of " do you hear ? " and may we not
seek for tm explanation of the southern " why ■' l>y
tracing it to a very slightly corrupted form of the
old word *'^ oyez,"' a term still presented in (?oriie
law forms ? E^fSu
Dublin.
Letters by *' Ak Englishman " (6*** S. L 408.)
— I believe the name of the author of these Ietter?5
has never been publicly di\nilged. The editor of
the Tinwi acknowledgetl that the letter? were in-
I tertedj contrary to their usual custom, without the
name and addre^^ts of the author being known* The
excuse for departing from this rule was because
the letters displayed such UQUsual power and
ability. They were afterwards published in n
separate form by Jlr. H. G. Bohn. UjcnRA.
Clachnacudden (5**» S. ii. 14a) — This is a
large stone near a w*ell whereon i>ersons going for
water rest their water-st^ups. The stoup is a
bucket or pitcher, made of Ktiives, two of which arc
longer than the others ; through the t^p at these
a wooden pin piiHi^e.s, and answers for a hantlle.
The bottom is larger than the top. Chidi (stone)
na (of the) cudainn (water-stoup)*
Thomas STRATToy.
"'At the door of tho Towu Hall i;Iiiveraea8) is a bine
lozenge-shuncd Bione^ called Clacb-aa-Cudden, or * itoac
of the tubs, from its having nerrcd at a restintrpliiee for
the wouicn carrying water from the river. TLia ii tho
pBilladium of the town, and ha« been carefully iireserTcd
since the time of iJonald of the lalci, in 1410/'— Black's
i^iV^«r«Y«« O'uidi to f'kotiandj 17th cd., IStifi, p. 502.
J, Manuel*
The Stat. Ac, Scot, renders Cla<h-na-mdden
" stone of the tubs'* (mtainn, a tub ?).
H. S. Charkock.
Groy'g Inn,
"Eelation of Englaijd" (5* S. ii, 1(>4)—
Xi€onard Miusoill is said to have introduced carp,
ujid pUiced them in the moot surrounding hia man-
sion, Flumpton Place, which still retains its moti
and its carp. Lower says in a note : —
'■ This» however, may well be doubted, oa Dame Juliua
Bemera inentionj the fieh in her ^' ^' ■ ' '^'' Alf*ism'i, in
the previous ceatiiry. She descr 'dajirt^fnii
fyifihc. but there ben but few iii , uid^ thcrt*
foroj I wrrte the lesse of bym/ — J^M^jry of StMtr*
ToLii, p, 101.
The Bole was publi&hed in 1496, and ilia date
assigned for the introdoction of carp is ciroot ldS5»
Haydn^s Dictionary of Lhle^, inb it>e^, TiiAe^
are said to have first been brought into EnglftQ
temp. Henry VIIL, who forbade brewers to
hops or sulphur in brewing beer. Ca?sar*s tUU
ment is supported by modem authorities r —
** When the actual cunratare of the coa«t Is tn<«^
and the opposite sides of Hi estuaries ore included, tbt
perimeter if found to bo not Un than 2,000 miiei."^
Black ie'a Imperial OozdUer, 1S55.
'* Includiug the principat indcntattonSp tbe emd^Vi
TOeosures, at leait, 2,000 milei."— P. U^ rtrt-Motk f
OeoffrupAy, by James Douglas, Ph.D.t 187:1.
'* The co&st-Uno of Great Britain h "
of auy other country of equal area, hi I
of coaat to twenty s^^iuare miles of &^i
Caftehum of OoitrtU Geography ^ 12th ed.
This latter gives the arexi as 5B/KH) squnpo i
Meaby, at 57/ hK> ; Stewart, r»8,32(i ; bf»t Bla
stiites " the true area is now understood to
57,S12 st|uare miles/' Juliua Ciesar would {
to have given us the minimum^ while
the maximum ** in round %are«."
JnO, a, FOfWLIlL]
FLT-LE.VP iNSCRrrxioN (5**' S. ii, 107.) — In I5li
Constanciji Browne was elected Abbess of Ly
and among the names of the sifters of the ftbb
at that date, occurs the name of Joan tSactHi i
doubt the owner of the book nmiied*
Samuki. SbaW,
AndoTer,
Shakspeahe'S Bust at Stratford f'^f!,!
161.)— Mb. C. a. Ward writes at tld* :
** Haa it ever been stated, Bunuiaed. or hs _liI
it came about that Jansen^ ow/ o/r
timti was ever employed upon the nv
ex-manager of *tiie Globe/ who bftd r. nu
acme years previously, into a Warwickshire farmtr!
I answer, unhesitatingly, it has not. ^"
iit all wonderful that no one has e\ •
pursued that inquiry ; for assuredly no -_
anything to do with the bust. Mr. Hiun Fi
{Life For traits of Sftakejtptartf 1^G4, pp.
says ; —
" The name of the acnlptor of the Stmtfonl tm?^
Gerard Johnson. *Wc lenm t
Knight, * from Dugdalc'i Currr
Mr. Hamper in 1527/ Of hiti^ . ^ /./.....
fad rtcorded, and that he carved ilIs« H
figure of John Combe, a hcftTy, Btiff, r
hlock," kc.
For ** nothing," howeveFp we should r
read litiU; and that HttU proves that J
»»8.n.8Bw.l2,74]
KOTES AND QUERIES.
215
I ixras s poor tomb-maker (a Hollander), liting in the
' vani of St. Thomas the Apostle,
Where did Mb. (\ A. Ward obtain the state-
tnctnt that Shukspeare, on retiring to Stratford,
J took to farniinjj!' / Is this assertion as tnist worthy
InA his tittribution of the biiiit to "one of the finest
I artists of h m time ? " Jabez.
Aihexucum.
"Got> BLESS THE MARK" (5**» S. iL 169.) — Is
'not thf phnise equivalent to ** God forgive nie*'t
ft, gives, *^ Marque = L€t(rt!^ de rcprt^naUk^,
—- U»er dr repr^jtaillt^" Tq the fragment
©f - i (EJ'IT.S.), tlie verb merUn seems
^1 I nse (*' too merken hem care," 1, 284 j
ujiirk pe teene/' L 497), thotigh* perhaps, the
aing of 7imH: there goes no further than ** to
p, to brand." There is a quibble in The Two
aneii of Verotia passage (iv. 4, IS). The
I is used niostlv wnen a comparison is made.
^, in the Othdlo pfusjiage (i. I, 33) —
% in good time, must his lieutenant he^
And I (God bles« the murk !) bis Moor-aLip^B ^nctent."
evens, in the Variorum of 1821, &ay8 on thift
" Kelly* in his comments on Scots pr»i-
8, observes that the Scots, when they comi.*are
[ person to person, use this exclamation." He goes
[ on to qnol4? from Churchyard : —
* Kot beauty here I olaime by this my talke.
For browne arid Uacke 1 was, God blease the niarke !"
] in which ])iUH^if^'e the comparison h between beauty
I and swarthi!U4», The comparison is generally a
ItKinteniptuous distinction. Thus the fop (1st
^[rnry IT"., i. 3, 56) talks—
** So tike fk wiiUmg gentlewoman.
Of gaiu ftnd dnitoa and wound.<^."
lbs and exckmations are ditficult things to
fte and explain. John Addis,
fEnniso Cot^TfTTKO {5<*» S. ii, IGTO'-Tho fol-
ring may supply Sin Frederick Pollock with
nc new facts : —
I, J/rrTjf , ft mciutire of 500 herringf .
, A burden, or weight.
r o<f mqiackt herriogn, 18 barrels.
j of hcxrinpis. tea tbousand — CQlea*a E$igliiK Die-
tiiiftnty, liJS5,
Mit' M€i€f » tneuure of heniuiKB containing
- d .
bttrd<;n,a certain weight or measure.— Kersejr's
Enfjluh Dictionary 1 1715.
bo ; —
r {[Gaelic)^, n mcature.
iw^-^>-y*ffadain (Welsh), five icore, or 6^0 of herrings.
— Owen> Wehh DicHtmmry.
'> is -riff} (rri*!h), n tnaiae, 500 fishes.
" I , 500 herrings.
ndinaTian), 500 hemn;i».
i.^j, 14 harrela.— Seweire D¥i(h Dictionary,
17*>S,
t — By Slftt Edward I. a lait of herrings wat io con*
tain 10|OOQ» At sLzacore to the hundrtd. — Fronu Pr,
Lvut of white bcrringa, 12 barrela.
Luit of red herrings, 20 cades or thousands. — Tomlin^i
Law Dictiotiaiy^ 1835.
At Great Yarmouth (co. Norfolk), by the
19th Edward III, a last of herrings imported was
to pay a niurajje rate of twopence ; exported^ to pay
Iburpence. [A muriige rate was a rate for sea-
cotKst walLs^ or beach rate.] By 31st Edward III*
no last of herrings to be bought at a higher price
than 40*. C. Goldixo.
Paddington.
Isabel asd Elizabetu (5*** S. ii. 1(W.) — The
following are from the Haddington registers ; —
1- Robert Balllie. Isobell namilton a aon Robert
borne 20th March bap. ll"* Aprrlo 1671.
2. Hobcrt BjtiUie. Eliz«heUi Uamittun a g, William
born 3rd bap, 24th October IfWL
u. Robert Duvid. lasobell Hail He, two Bnughters
Elizabeth and IiiSobeU borne 2JtU bap. 2Vnh Jaauary
V6ii.
1 and 2 exhibit an acknowledged interchange
of BailLie and Baikie, but a doubtful interchange
of Isobell and Elizabeth ; because 3 shows that
there was an understoofl distinction between
Eliisabeth and Issobell, tlie Latter name being
variously spelt, ns Issabell, Isabell, I^3obell, Sic,
J. Beale*
Buddha (5"^ S. ii. 165.) — Buddha is jsaid to be
from tlie Sanskrit buddfia^ wise, sage, from bttddh^
to know. Mr. Dilke says tliat badil means to
wah^ in Kussian and Bohemian. Now the English
word bud is from the Bohemian word boi^ a
prick or goad (see Wedgwood), Our word bodkin
origiiiany meant a pricking instrument ; ** when he
hiniself might his quietus make with a bare badkin^*
proves it. The French poindre da jour (Wedg-
wood) is titst bursting, piercing, or germ of day.
Erachet says that the French bouter is from bozen^
Geniuin for pous.ier, '* Bouton ce qui pousse, ce
qui lionte aux pluntes." So that in this we get at
the primary idea of Buddha^ iuh the germinator,
not the oiraI:&}icr from sleep, but the budder into
life. The engrafter, or in -pricker, from whose in-
cision the bud of all life springs out, and not life
only, but u*ts<fi9?H /which is little else than spiritual
awakenment. This shows that Sanskrit it self is
3'oung coniptred with the triditeml roots that still
live in Euglish. From what I have Siiid those who
have studied the Phallic emblems will now fully
understand the physical meaning of Buddha,
0. A- Ward,
Mayfair,
'* Old LosDoy Fortifications" (5"^ S. i. 183.)
— If CoR3<rB. will refer to *^ N. & Q.," !•» S. ix„
he wLQ find that the drawings in question, which
were said to have been executed by a " Captain
John Eyre of Crom well's own regiment,'* were
then (1854) reported to be in the possession of the
corporation of London ; and I have heurd It ^tAt^ojii
216
NOTES AND QUE]
thAt in consequence of the ciiscussion, which sro»e
as to their gennitieness, and m to the existence of
sQch an ol1ic<?r its Captain John Eyre, the corpora-
tion declined to purchase them. L. F.
" Diphthong;* &c. (b^ S. ii. 186.)— I whoUy
demur to the st^itcment of T, H. P.» that Eoj^lish
people geneniUy pronounce the ph in these words
uci if it W9S p, I conceive it is mere slipalop,
seldom done by educated persons. Lyttbltos.
Mrs. Serres (5*^ S. ii. 141 » 177.)^The name
of Robert Cole^ Eaq,» F.S.A,» may not be unknown
to Mr. Th*jMS, and it is in a catalogue of his
once valuable collection of autof^raphs and mauu-
scripts I iind mentioned other works by Mrs. Serrea
in jwldition to those noticed by Mr, Thoms. They
are as followa :—
The Prmcesa of Cumber land ; Statement to the English
Nation. vSieTietl Olive, 1822.
The Royal Oliiiplain. Maiiascript, octavOp 2dii pages.
Hiatory of I»on Pedro Tolenger, of Valladolid, quarto,
r 445 p«gefl, in tbe Autograph of the Pnncew.
\T\it Footman, a folio m»nuscript. 132 ptgei.
My father's collection contained a naml>er of
interesting letters and documents connected
' with the case, but these are the only books I can
find which would be any help to Mr. Tiiomb.
Toignmoatb. * Emily C-ole.
William Mitdford (5"* B, ii. im).)— Mr. Mud-
iford die<i March 10, 1B48. In 1849 be is de-
l«cribe<! iis *'the LU^ William Mudford^ Esq./* on
I the title-page of hi a Talta aiful Trifit^y fr&rti Black-
wowTs and other 2\ypitlar Ma^jtizinrs.
F. R. S. «ay8 he is the autbejr nf Thr Ftvf
KmmkU of 8L Albans ; isboald it not be *' The Five
Ni^fh U " ? 8 r A RKs H E N der&u n W i l li a ms.
[In the Cat of the Edin. Pbit Inst. Lib. (1857) both
reiidings are given.]
ARBlTRARy OR CONVENTIONAL WoED-FoRMA-
TIDN (4^^ S. vii. riZZ; xl 461.)— An excellent
example of this highly irregular and almost ignored
, mode of word-fonii.ition is presented to us in the
Germ. Fiflihn^^ the ordinjiry equivalent of our
rord spill. Muhn, in hia Untentu4:hunf€n, ».v.
[ ** Pedante " (p. 105), tells us tliat Fidibm h made
• ot fid{dibui /riUr)ibv»^ Aeyen letters in the
■ . i beln^ dropf^iL In Larchey's Diet de
fT Argot Paritien (Paris^ 1872) a somewhat different
account m gireiL He says that in the German
I Tiniversities the oflicijd athuonitions to studcntH
^ begin with the wortls, ^^ Fid*^^ (pour fidtUbus)
dUcipulii nnitf.rsUatiSf'&c,, and that the students
^ing in the habit, by way of bravado, of lighting
theij* pipes with the paper on which these notices
are written or print^'d, any piece of p»per uwd for
lighting a pipe came to be called a fidihuA,
[ 5L Larchey i«, however, a less trustworthy autho*
'rity, especially in reference to a Cferman word,
than Mahn. Littn^ doe« not give the wirrd.
See also Larchey (op. ciL\ <.n ^ Rama,' whcfi hi
quotes a passage from Balzac '^^ « »^i '^ ^^-^ '-'-ra^t
is used = mnti, the mnm i htm
diorania, and having come int. if* finrt
instance in artisti?' studios) at a t im ; .inuw
were a novelty. In a aimilar way 11:- m
that mar (r/. r.), wliich he regards as the i
ratnny w«5, about the yefir li540, fnrqnr
to the end of words, complete or 1 1
cafenmr was used for cri/i?, l
bouhiHgery epicnriar for *^ icier ; and hv; i^uote^ m,
example fi'om a book,
Tbe.*e compounds differ from .r? "'
in that they do not ficem to h;
whilst^rfi^u.? is a recognized dictionurv worn , lut
they are valuable as showing the tcD^enoy of tk
human mind to form such words.
I do not» of course, include the ca&es in
as in the French oui from hoc illud (^oc ttt,,
0 il^ oU^ oi, oui)y two words which wci
together have regularly coalesced. F. Cu
S^denhiua lltU«
Elizabeth CAirin NO (5"*» S. Ii, I'T, :
Since writing ray former note, I J i\
Paget*s ent^jrtaining and jmggcstive *-
Paget is clear and lucid in his account >
what complicated case. But wil! '
for saying that he appears eomt
Canning's favour, and that he unu'
looks some of the strongest gronnil
her story ? To give only one instai.,
&ays more than once (Pumhs and
pp. 321, 336) that Canning's story n n
fjice of it, so improbable a» to be
it k almost impossible to say t«t
balance of evidence inclines, &a (scd ciV, p. S39^
But he lays no stress upon the cxtmortluiwt
phyaiologitvil difficidty, that, according to her
story, Canning lived for twenty-eight dayt oa »
quartern loaf, a mince pie, and a piU'ber of water!
Putting aside all the other improbabilities of Uk*
tale, surely this may be pronounced ** so improbiblt
m to be incredible'^* Midulj: TxaiPJ^t.
Bradford.
SiNOLK Eye-Gla88KS (5"' S. I 489 ; iL 50. II.\|
— I onoe beard the Rev. Stowell Brown, of 1 ' '
pool, in a lecture on ** Manlinet^s/^ ^nr thnf
who wore an eye-glass evidently di
Script ural idea that, when one nici
other menibers suffered with it, or he would wtar ^.1
honest jxiir of ftpectacles ! A. R.
Croiwwylan, Oawcttry.
ZlNZAN (5^^ S. ii. 9, 2fi r>X n:, i— T haro mr^t
with thin name, ali^^ A^
the Civil War^ and in
ship. I think it occurs m i
about 1H43. The remark, if 1
unlike the comiption and ulii «uhl
1
S»&n.90T.lS,7«.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
217
? of tlie niime of the diurch of San Giovnnni
p BiDlci into Z(mtipQh. T W. Webb,
Adam's First Wife (b^ S, i. 387,495 ; iL 132.)
-According to Dn Margoliouth, in bU Filgrivmgc
" r Laxid of my Fathern (vol L pp, 451, 2\ the
i of Tunis believe that Lilith ih the wife of the
, luul that «he has a speciiil spite aj^iuBt new-
They use a sing^iilar written amulet
tp her at bay ; and Dr. Margoliouth quote*
i fellowing story, which was told him, as to the
gin of the custom : —
" When Adam and Etc were thrown out of Eden, tho
former wad ca«t on the Isknd of Cejion, and the latter
an Mount Anifa, near Mecca, one hundred and ieTenty-
live yeart' journey from each other. Poor Adam felt ttic
aepamtioo very much, for he wa« a aociuble chamclcr
»fi<r all ; be piaed, therefore^ on accouni of hii tolitudc.
I^ilith kn^'w t hi a, to with her lord's consent she offered
It^ ' lied widowtT huT coDipanion«hip, which he,
t n lie WU8, frladly accepted. So Adam and
L I iind loTcd together throKijErh many a chang-
11^ K}«-iii»/ Iluwerer, at last Adam met with Ere ; the
raT« of their first lore iUuiutnAtcd their eye* to such an
" ' ' t the tcalei from Adam^i eyes fell off, and he
once more in all the attractive lorelineM
:3 he looked upon her >»hen she was longer
I ihan be liked, and therefore again exclaimed —
' My faircAt^ my e^ouAed, my latest found*
Hea Ten's last, best gift, my ere r new delight,
Sole Etc, associate sole, to me beyond
Compare, tboTe all liring creatures dear.'^
[ "lilith could not brook thi^i insult, eipeclally when
informed her that she might now seek another
for he would hare no time to pay any
her. In frenxied ra?e she flew and swore
land earth that every child of man that should
I she would de«iroy. To prevent the jealous and
ed lady from putting her dire throit into execution,
)o?e amulet is ported on the doors» windows,
nneys, and bed of confinement, to as to prcTent the
a*a tMtf^nw in any way whaterer."
St. Swtthin.
IT. STEPHEy Clabite (5^^ S. i. 208, 255, 298,
; ; ii 77, U6.)~In Tht Life of Mr. JliomasGcni,
4r of York, written by himseLfi is the follow-
lider t lie year I 73»j : —
hit year, on the 4 th of May, I took Stephen Clarke
tny apprentice : he was the son of the ReT. Mr»
ph«n Clarke, M,A,, rector of Burytborpe, near
Jton. who icaTe mo with him twenty ponnda. The
utli l*on«?«tIy served his time, and went to London,
igg I wish him all the good fortune that ho can
^^ or desire, according to his roerita,"
ther of Tliomas (ient's apprentic?«s, about
II was a Joseph Nickson, who prol>ably was
r aatnc person as the Joshua Nickson, printer of
otd edition of the Rev. S. Clarke's :krmons
^l by Mr. Fedeher, J. G. B.
^Ttrp Jri*atH ox Circcit (5**^ S. ii. 27, 135,)—
Fafin^rtfin pnp<?r<, published by the Chethnm
f'LotU Book IV. I deem these
iu!i of my infonoant's original,
' which the narrator »poke
-.jce."
Society, giye a rery tnmons account of the exp^nites
sheriffs used to be subjected to in entcrtainin;^ the
jndges, and the di^^pute which arose upon that
iwint in Lancashire in 16^, P, P.
" BriLT hehe for his envy" (^V** S. ii. 7, 132.)
— Satnn attributCis to the Almighty a deiire to
excite envy. This appears to me to be the sense
of the pussHge. Nowhere in Paradise Lod does
Milton use " built" asa mbstantive. I think what
Satan says, Book IL iO-25, throws light on (he
above |>asBuge : —
" The happier state
In Ilear'n, which follows dignity, mij^ht draw
Envy from each inferior ; but who here
Will cnTy whom the highest place enpotts
Foremost to stand ngainst the TImnd rer's aim.
Your bulwark ? "
A T.
Bamet.
Seizing Corpses for Debt (4* S. pasffim ;
5^^ S. i, 491) ; ii. 15.) — A curious instance of this
revolting custom has recently been detailed in the
Derbygkire Timxs. A tombstone in the church-
yard at North W infield (Derbyshire) bears the
foUowLng inscription :^
** In memory of Thomaa, son of
John and Mary Clay, who departed this life I>ecember
Idth, 1794, in the 40th year of his age.
What thoup:h no mournfull kindred stand
Aruund the solemn bier.
No parents wriog the trembling hand.
Or drop the silent tear ;
!io costly oak adorned with art
My weary limbs enctoee,
Ko friends impart a wtnding-shoet
To deck my last repose?'
These strange verses are thus explained by those
who have heard the circumstances narrated at first
hand. Thomas Clay was a man of intempenite
luibits, aud wo^ indebted at the time of bi^ death
to a viUiige publican of the name of Adiington in
the sum of 201. Adiington resolved to f^lze the
body, but the parents of the deceased were careful
to keep the doors locked till the day of burial.
But no sooDer were the doors opened than Adiing-
ton niahed in, seized the corpse, and placed it on
a form in the open street opposite his mother'^
house. The relatives, however, refused to pay the
debt^ and, after the corpse had been thus exposed
for several days, Adiington was compelled to bun^
it, and it was committal to the ground in an old
bacon chest. Another instance from 8pr*rsholt in
Berkshire, of the year 16S9, was given by me in
4^ 8, X. 271, but it is indexed under the title
** BuriiU in the Churchway*"
J. Charles Cox.
Hazelwood, Belpcr.
^ Lnm "* A« A CoxjuwcTiox (5** S. i. pamm ;
ii. 97, 114.)— -Clarrt haa not copied the line 9»
it is given in Mra. C-owdea Claikfi'ft Cwat»Td«wa*,
MM
*
218
MOTES AND QUERIES.
p* S. IL Skft. 12. 71
if he had, he would have seen that the reference
was not to the sUige directioo, ** Enter FRe^enter]
Ariel, like a watcr-Dymph/' but to Prosperos
order a few lines above : —
" Co, make thyself Hlcc to a nymph o' the les :
B« subject to no ngbt but mine/'
Here the fin*t folio reads *^like a nymph'* ; the
second* third, Jind fourth folios, ^^like to a nympK"
Mrs. Co Wile n Clurke, in coinpilinf^ her Cone<yr'
tlanc^y did not, it scrims, confine hei"self to the
text of any one edition of Shnkjspeare : she
mentions^ in her Prefaee, ** the twelve ye^iru'
writing, and the four more l>estowed oti coUaHng
^cith rcctitt editions and correcting the press."
Spark3 Hexderson Williams.
18, Kecnilngton Crescent, W,
" Wise after the Event" (5^*^ S. i. 409, 514.)
— This proverbiid expression may lie tniced back
lit least to i\w end of the six teen th century, as I
find it in tlie Sa7nmlun{f Teid$cher SpruchiriirteTj
by Dr. Knypius, printed at Frankfort-oD-the-
Mayne, 159L It appears under a Latin form,
*' Snpere post fnctn," In what way it is illustmted
may be judged by the introductor}^ sentence of the
commentary of Knypiiis : — *' Nach der hocbzeit
erkennt man desn Weibs boiwheit/' In the
Ffmikffivm of Christophenis Lehman (p. IX ^l)^ in
1()4(), it appears na *" Post jiKila pntdcns" and
" Jiebus peractis, Prometheus," U. T. Ramaoe.
"IVU^-A-LoST** (5"iS. i. 3S5, 433, 490.)— The
fame of tbia owl incident, wherever it may have
really o-cciirred, would seem to have spread verj^
widely, for, iifty or f?ixty years ufio, the following
wa*s the usual description of the loud-speaking of
a nutn or woman :— *' He (or she) bowted like th'
owlet o' G Hint ley Gmnge," Thija was near the
tou-n of Derby. T. Eatcliffk.
*' Make a bridge of gold for a flyij^o
ENKMY " (4*^ S. i. 434, 547 ; ix. 397, 492 ; x. 17.)
— I have met with this singuLir proverb three
timea : —
'' Oaurex touiicniw » tos eonemys toutoa let porte» et
cliemina^ et phistost lenr fuictea unjf pout d'ftr}^eTitj affin
tie lea rciivoyer,*' — KabsUis^ Oarpantu^, lir. L chEp. 43.
'" El cuhI no t'ltne condidon, ni es ile pareccr de loi
Hwe dken que at criemii^o que buye, lioccrle la pueute de
plata,"— Cervantes, Doti Quijote, part iL cap. 5ii.
"For a flying f' 10
Dii«reet and provident conquerors build up
A bridge of gold."
Ma«8inger, The Quardtattt Act L ic. 1.
Other example.s would oblige, (r. A. B,
8t Jahna Wood.
Dr. Dee's Magic Mirror (6"> S. il 86, 13(1)
— There is, I beUeve, no evidence that the ball of
^ smoky roek crvBtnl (not griass) in the British
*'Iu8eiim was ever the property of the alchemist of
iiche8ter and Mortkke, though some yeai^ ago
it uaed to be ticketed as " Dr. Dee's Show Stone,''
It is engraved by John and Andrew Vaii Rrmsduld
Pictors, in their ouaint folio abont some wf iW
curiosities in the faritisb Museum. Lomlon, KTtt
but with no mention of the Doctors nanie*
is, however, in the National C^ollection a disk^
or coal, inscribed with characters, which
lb ink, supposed to have been his,
W, J. Berxhahd ButTBf
NOTES ON BOOKS, Ac.
Fourth Hfpori of fh Royal Comvt
torical Manntcripts. Part L
Appendix, Part II., Indeau ^^Hcr i>tajc!
Stationery Office,)
This interesting Report contains an accounl
sixty collections of manuscripts in the posscsaiao <
various corpcjmtions and individuals. rbirtyH^*^
are English collections. Seventeen an? Sot^
Ireland furnishes five. They are of vct)'
intere«^t, whether they refer to national or H
individual interests. Among the latter i^rt in-
cidenta referring to some of the most etn
in iingliiih history. There is an altr
rcgJird to one document in the Tov :
to identify, in an '* Ednumd and i
of BumleVj the parents of the greut poet
Knowles, the author of the Report of the Townli
Collection, makes an assertion tov' '
the attention of our fair and aci
tributor Hermen'trude : — "Isabel
says Mr, Knowles, *'are substani
na me. 1 n Moreri 's Did ion nairt i i ^ - f * ? j - . t Lc;
J I re continually used synonymously, and» at
events, their identity is sufficient t^* 1' »^ '- i^sf '
Siienser in linkiug his mother, suii
name was Isabel, with his wife ana
the sonnet in which he praises the ^most
letters' thiit compose that * happy name' : —
* The which three times thrice happy bfttU me nude,
With gifta of body, fortune, and of mind.
The fli*3t niy hbmg gave to rae by Itind,
From mother's womb dcrivM t).v due deseent ;
The aecoad is my soveroi^^n t^ueen moit kitid^
TlHit honour and lar^o richc"^ totue lent;
The third my Love^ my life's last ornauieni.' '*
Among the illu tit rations of a lat^r and h
poetic life, we come upon a ciiriou3 letter £wB
Home Tooke to Wilkes, in 17(56, in which \
is told of an attempt to prove Lord Harb
an idiot. Counsel on both Kides relied
sanje circumata,nce — a box could not lie
Lord Harborough told tlie sen^ants to do i
i\8 they did wilb oysters, viz., " to put it in iM
fire and it would gap -' ! A letter of about '^
.stinie date refers to **the excellent iJirenllon
steel pen^."
Next to being possessor of al I the ml i
which belong lo so many owners, tmd
\ described and qtioted in these volutadSi %kv m>A
»» a It ssre 12.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
219
desirable tbing is to po^scjss the volumes them-
selres. They open uji t\ thousand by-\viiya in
pablic and aIbo in privute hmtory.
Ttny Trtii/tU. By. J. Ashby-Stcrry. (Tlntlcy Brothert.)
Tbf nutlior of The Shuttkcocl- Papa-t has thorotiglily
mcc^edeil in bb endeavour to provUle ft *' latUby "
for tb« wcftry. If wc mistake not, not milj will the
tr«rell«r, llt« tiuthor'a ipcci&l care, whom he depicts &«
not impowibly " j*ded '* bj the erudition, tho figurei,
the *:f'-''"'"*^'"MTeneM of other writer*, prove to he Mr.
Aihb .'btor, but alio thoi« many otljcrs who,
•* n r » toil, whether mental or bodily, will, in
their dcfirc. by other mrani than wine. Ui smooth *• eon*
tAclae MTift lrroati«/' have recourse to this yde&aaTitly-
wt-ittrn vtjlume. In Tiny TravfJf, now we are treated
ter in which, with *' K«r)y to bed/' &c., as a
L idy ft itron^ CU4> is maiie out, at leatt to the
wrii<:r s inind, for the foundation cf » "Society for the
•QI»|»rfn}on of AncienI Proverb<>/' it being roundly
Mserted, with regard to most of ihc»e, that they are
*'pleaMantIy phrased lit?**'— that their principles are
•* wroniT, and their teachinj^ invariably unjuit"; and
r -- ' - ' • v,y ^ijg E^t Wind, but, In *pite of
rot«st against Canon Kin^sleya
tinable blaBt," merrily. The de-
tiouung bzily " Up the Thame* "In glorionsly
f, nA contrasting with and following on that
.^ -,v ?'•"" l-'^ij.'hton/' might well be expected to
prove oo Bi lor the better to writer aa well as
reader ; hm iftrr rxlf, \% lul for it i« not needed,
togaih Sterrrwrit** even when
rtcooTi iij; .1- i/a]ini^btlon>fl>ctween
hi4 o*n Ltrtttx .'cif vv,iL.....^ , ^.^ Ui sleep, and \iv% wone
KJf absolutely refusing to do anything of the kind.
These several paperSj then, on various iubjects, — too
varioo* to l>e h^ro enun^crjited, — are bo nmny delightful
cotnpsuiiori*, ard, thf^t 1 cin^' the case, no further wordj
are needed to comincnd them.
Tkt PtrluMtratwn o/ (Jrtttt VarmoHtk tpitk Garletfoa and
S^tAto*ffk. Bv Chdrles John Palmer, F S.A., an
Honorary Member of the Genealogical and Historical
Society of New York, Vob II. {t-ireat Yarmouthi
Nail)
Wk congmtufftte the goM people of Yarmouth on tho
ap(7eiuiuiee of thii second ]>ortion of their accomplished
townsman'* valuable contribution to the hiitory of their
ancient boroofh. Wc call it a *' contribution to the
V ■ ^" " ' --■'-'' '■ *ho history'* which it really ia, in
r'a modest title; for, aswc showed
t xr.lnmo {*' N - k Q." 4'" S. ix. 4=^7),
V done, the sources of
led, that he must b«
,,, ,. ,, . . ,. . ... «- "'tyiplcmcnting the
Itratiun ot Varnioutii , of it. Like it*
wiil lind h)B '•wandering steps ' ony-
," Wft Rh4U look anxiously for the
c of A work which i« at once
it «(> vahiable nn addition to
.1. By Mark Antony Lower,
as an Emperor, nor Btemarck as a Prince, for neither of
them has a rightful claim to such a title/' Neither are
there wanting tmits of audacity ; ** My wife and myself
visited several newly-made lady friends (in Copenhagen),
and I kissed six of them, without a singie blusli amon^
the eight of u& I " Mr. Lower doe# not nil to record the
results of his observatlona in natural history. " The
sheep," ho saySi ^*are small, and wear the fong tails
which were bom with them. They are curiously marked
on their backs with red and crimjoo ochre," The
traveller aljo records "a curious fact, that bagpipes wer©
invented in Norway, and thence imported into Scotland
during the period when a portion of that Cfinntry fell
into ScftudinavioQ hands/' This little volume will nlTord
ail readers much amusement,
Tfie Afa8a{/€ to Archipptu is the title of a sermon
(Rivingtona) preached at an ordination held on behtilf of
the Archbishop of Canterbury, and ptibli^hed at his
request, by the Rev. C CajMsl Cure, M.A. The recU>r of
Btuomsbury urges the candidates to show thai they
** can look through the pomp of wealth and the misery
of rags, and see that the real diffierence between mnn
and man lies, not in hts rank or in his purse, but in the
manner in which he fulfils the duties of las station, and
in his obedience to God's will*" — SucratntJitdi Confrfsion
Eramined 6y Pastoral Experience, by the He v. C. F. Low-
der,M.A. (Rivingtons). Asonoof the 4S3 priests who signed
that now celebrated Memorial to Convocation, the Vicar
of SL Peter's, London Bocks, addrefses thU letter to the
Bishop of London, and in the course of it affirms that
not only does confe&sion '* harmonise with the tnic spirit
of the Church of England," but that *' its growth syn-
chronizes with the revival of what is most apostolic and
catholic in the faith and discipline of the church." — A
Letier to a Frand on tht Stundardi of iKi Nrv; Code of
Iks Education f)e'^>artmintf by John M(*net, M.A,, Vicar
of Hockerill (Kivingtons). This pamphlet deserves most
careful reading at the present time, Mr. Menct raises
the whole nucition of "standards," the otTspring of
"payment for results"; these *' standards" he would
aboiifh, and, every child in a scliuol being examined,
would eubstitrito payment jer class for that per head.
The effect certainly of the present system of infrpcction
would aecm to be to find out rather what a certain num-
ber of picked children have been mode to accomplish
than what a whole school is worth as an institutinn.
A Natiotjal TnBATRi:.— The Cornhiil ^fff4Ja2^nt for
September has an article on **The iNinish Nation*]
Theatre," to which the attention mav be directed of all
who are desirous of seeinjj a Xatinnal Theatre in Eng-
land worthy nf the name. Thi^ iiriplies Pacta of lofty
intellect, and Actors able f c their sentiments.
Tho end in view is immo It of attainment^
but, as the writer of the reu..ii ».,,._ .nticle named above
says, " Of all the small nations in Europe, Denmark is
the only on© that Itas sueecedtd in founding and pre-
serving ii truly ruitionnl dnunaiic art,** it is to be hoped
that there may bo yet ettablithed in England what
Milton called a *' well trod stuge " :—
" Then to the well trml stage anon,
If Jon'on's lenmcd *f>ck be on,
Or -iiwcetejit i^hakcspcare. Fancy's eUild,
WaiM.* liii native w jud-notes wild,"
f Tkt
r, hat
.^ I II* •iiujMMjiiY, It iKH':? rini uvrt rurn,;
Lower sara !— ♦• ! will never acknowledge W
(.itVLJi.'"! wi;i
id male of flannel, and trimmed with amlyit ^\VW,
Ai^
220
lOTES AND QUERIES.
[fi^^aiL&cpT.ntt
Tliere was no ring on the finger, nor *nr tlgn to elioir
that it WM the corpse of a pricit or bkliop. The face
wore iti naturAl colour, saire a snmW part covered irith a
kind of white mould. Many of iht old tnhabitauU who
came, haviui^ knovrn the Bishop in life, recognised him
distinctly id death. The body wai suWquenilj rein-
terred.
Th« Blocnts or MAPtu-DrwHAM.— The following
extract Lb from the Obituary of the Tima of Tuesday,
the 8th of September :—•* On the 3rd intt, Michael
Henry Blount^ E«<1., of Mapledurhani, Oxfordshire,
aged S5. Krijutescat in pace.'' The deceaied gentleman
was a family representative of the Blounts —
" Martba brown and Teresa fair ** —
of MaplcDurli&m, to whom the ^eat poet Pope ad-
drMMd some of his most elegant and channinc epistles.
HsNRT BL Feibt.
Cheyelcy Villa, Croydoiu
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTKP TO PimCHASE,
ParticmTam of Prtn«, *«., of rmrr i*wk la W nmt 4irt«t to tb*
penon by vhom il i» i«4uirc(l» vtwM laatiis and addrfw &r« Biveu
far thAit purpnae;^
Dinnjv't Typo Afil^. Vo!«^ tit. iwd IT.
J^AVATiB'fi AplMrbuu of Mml S folfl. 37^ ex 17M, ItDio. Vol, IL
T«o vofAm.
Purr's LiUr&TT Cwm&foodtntt^ Iftmo , ITM. t t**!*. I. It, rV'.
T. W tjs ii*fc CoU««tian ef fftf taptu. a »(*!■. . i rra. Vol n.
M aa««d bjr •/. IT. Jm-na^ Kw. i\ CbAclM b^nart. Bvxtoa, K.
A IHirTin»AaT ov Pije«ra Bi,4pg (AfrqitW PvMJslMd la FEvseh aad
En<lUU ty J, Canid«a BvitiGU
The llcvot^j er LiatrTSitAav Bru.!., eealataiai sn Aaeeiznt of iht
€«ptur« of St. tsbasllaii.
WaBtf4 hj E. J^riMf^MK. Ihlsiet «f W«,k« laa, (^aitel4f9 Tova^
F&mboroueb Stktioo.
OABPtif ta^A Zola Country.
T. FBiiroi.t'« ReiidefiM In South AltioA.
Wk&toO hs Mr. n, HtMli, 4, Olyudc T«rfao«, L»vead«r Hill, 8.W,
"Prat Goody,*' asd •* Hort Told.'— With referenee
to these songs (p« 200), Mr. William Cbappcll, and there
could be no better authority, M-rites as follows : — ** * Pray,
Goody, please to modern te the rancour of your tongiie/
is No. 11 of the vucal pieces in the opera ol Midui, In
the original book of words to this opera, the music of
* Pray, Goody/ is atated to be * A tune in Qvuen Mmb*
The music /<»- tbe pantomime of i^mttn Mob wm com-
posed by Dr. Barney* '^ Hope told k flattering tale * was
written [l>y Peter Piodar] to supply the demand for Eng-
lish w«raj to Paisiello's exquisite air —
' li«d cor piii non mi scnto
Brilkr la giorentu.* "
We will only add to the oblijpng communication of our
much valued correspondent, that as mut^ic to panlmnjmca
is almost inrarittbiy selected mtisic, Dr, Buruey may
have borrowed *' Pray, Goody/ *frt"m Rousseau, for whom
the air has been claimed. " Pray, Goody/* was aUo
published as Ame's by Button k Whitaker, St. Pfturs
Churchyard* 1818. The ton^ with musie« now bc-foro ub^
is thus titled : ** Pray Goody. The much admired btillad.
As Sung with the greatest Applause^ by Mr. Sinclair, at
the Tlieatre Eoyal Co vent Garden, In the Burlctta of
Midas. Composed by Dr. Amc.'*
/'Sleeps mu a tor."— Profcwor ATTWtLt^ ^Barnes)
kindly fomiahes iitki>i,jr>r aenv»ttau lor tci^ caying
(p, 2U0). "The i^remA equivMent ii> '^l-sps like a
top ' would be ' comme une titupti * (a tap), ralhtr 1
*une taupe* (a fn&le). The fatniliar fiLMirc. howeter
* il dort comme on mboL* (The wfx>1
sccm^ furnished coDrenient material ^■
top ; hence, or possibly from the mere
the two thingH, this secondary meaning.'
Since receivitjK Professor Attweli
another of eimtlar import baa '
Henhi Gaussxhon (Ayr), with ti
way, dormouse means ' loir ' in Ik t-nci^ , >k4tu im*A.^
the Etiglisli moU,**
Crkmatiow {6^^ a ii. 184).— Ma. C. W. ewrow
state that the abore note is a quotAtion from the L
of the Boit&n (U,S.) Public Library of July Taat. Us ]
anxious to l«t it be known that it is roaily tfawflcli
the excellent librarians at Botton. Hhi aetkoril^ \
inadrertently orer looked.
Mr. James Piuislet writes that "Sir Tboma*
PhiUipjpt's /rtfifitnh'nneg Clericorum, which NtrmiS to-
quires for fJ ' " SO), is in the Cheltenham Ubm,
where he ilcome to consult it, if he ihottM
erer be in ' la."
EsoRj.— The passage from Walter of Coventry ii iJ
wellknown 11 lustration of medieval ''Life in fjtmdou'a
but there is no parallel to be drawn between Johannetl
Benex, w!io may hare been a brarc old fellow, and Fal- 1
A. D,— As stated in the Gv^rdian of this wttL «
have strongly urged tbe recovery and replaetmeinT i
tbe Cathedral of St. Asaph, of the brass nmoturiail f *
to Bishop Barrow. See " N- & Q." 4^* S. tUL Je27« I
full account of the inaeription.
KoELL BiDCLirrf^.—U ■eemi to ut that jofor^fMfy J
was most effectually a.nswered by our esteemed oofft* J
spondent Mr. Crobslet, in " N, A Q./' i^ R xii. 2S)1
P. MAiueQtrnr*— Dr. Jenner was born in 17*?, MtAj
died January 26, 1823; Capd LdTt, bom 1T5L "
May 26, 1824.
Ctti^uK SutTM.— Tbe often-quoted line belongt U
Thomas Paine, who said of Mr. Budte, ** Am he foeefikt
the rocket, he fell like tbe stick/'
Topoo,— There were two places called *' nockhytn*
the*Holc." On© in ClerkenweU, the other in BedlW
shire,
BEi.tSAKit7S.— See Mr. Wiluah Chafpsli* on *■ Gfld
sare the King," in our last number.
J. P&AR»otr, K. P, D. B., and F. A. Ei>waRI«.— fo^
warded to Mr. Thoxs.
8oxi:p SET.— Both the epitaphs on Hobeoo the Cmm
are by Milton.
W. PtATT (ConserratiTe aub).-*Forwmrded ie Plti-
DiAMoiri» Digger. — Next number. Tbe ^mmM9t IT
any, will appear in due course.
H. KiL<K)CJR.— See p, 93, ante,
HiBERMCUS. — Next week.
NOTIOB,
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AVe beg leave lo state that we decline to return ceO'
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u » guarRutee of good faith.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
221
Is— OD&MemtioQ of CIiun:h PUte, 2il— Scotch Peem-
' Cbrl«tll«£ Nanie^, ^22— Bftrb'trlU^a : Ailmitilitmioa
T.iw \n irpTantV *?*?-*' \\:i)n«cii'd Widow "-^** As
■0Dt3«j ' ~ , 11^04 — Laverton Church,
SK - '>o DpiV4il|>on — guec^ti
jGirijj ryof MArri4^e in Chftl-
Tiritb Kfg1iit^r«— I'liris i'risont, S25 — Jofin Viccart,
- 18ebolar-'DenibleGbiliti«a NAmes-^A PoetluU
L Hlohi«rt Church **in Peril of th« Sea" dmt
fte fiKgllidi rcMMeisloof — Authors and (.jaoUtlona Wanted—
AM^ 22T— Vllllen : De ViUien — Vom [nW<%\^-.Fl e tcher,
of BaUovo— Ftetdiflr, BLiboir of Worcester- < WagM
^UittrgiM of Ed wMd V L— BiWlcAl Evld. t iobert
f^Oier— Eftri f.^T.,nL^fhv_'M.iv,... .,f tht> h;uiiil. bj^ajta "—
Sir Edwv m"ii " Dream of Kalr
IKutamtt ' ^Adii6edl« Street — Joha
r ^v ,...,.., i>._., .ix»-air RkLAid PMlliiit
ir MafaxtiMi.'' ii^,
,1 n rnrnpimlc?, or Huitrl?, !*2fl — Spelling
I— Incorrect
J :idt Drake«
t»f?<l in WiJli^^l'Liry family, < .laucealenhlTO— Mr.
ntttveU'i £zpt««loo of '* FloutD nnd ((ib« uid jen-s " —
••TfcltJiig»Sl|!ht '— LeComteB '" Nouvtaoi MCiBulTC^^ fU la
Odntt," 234 — *'Miuick" — Nomcnclatare of
**Shot** jut n TerminaHon — Beer And ¥ri>
Qucitednci, 23&— lubolftad EH^KbBth— BHlph •>
liliiry d« ftoo«, 236— The French Word *• Yeoji ""- LhriaLiiin
KftniM-TIlileni Abb^— BtlwMil J«*rfai WinpHeid, 2:J7 —
r^Uier Kembltf— Archbkbop Mai^eUoti — Privy CoqqcU
JudgmcoU: Liddell c Weatertca — Tho Two Thieves—
]EAb^ 288— Th0 Blened ThUilo— Bobcrtaon Family— Monej
tiMflfiMWSof War, 2S».
KolM on Bookc, &a «
Sir E4
ft
i
I P.ATIOX OF CHtmCH PLATE.
T> f ihp com muni on plate beloni^ng to
1 'I ham b«m the followring"
Parochiali de Strethftm
' v.D. IfiRG/'
liop Laud
I ..inniy, j'jj, _■< 'j-3) timt in
cJ '* conaecTtite &f)me plate.''
. , I .n,r ti'.^ "in qII ages
ine's time^
.. . ..uredvcgseh
Ives '; Init he detues
M/ iti his ciLse, as was
I, '' acixirdiiig to tlie iovtn m Mimali FarvoJ*
thjit T tr^rd wa-? according to the copy of the
'ii>p of Winchester, Biahop An-
)f\^ ny uie to be Been, and which
* That fomi is given in
liop A r Works, pp. liMi-163 :
iC 1 by the Lo: Bishop of
"Church Plate of the
<*\ \\ (Mf ; " (tlie circumstance.^
lius to ftct in Worcester ( 'athe-
' ' but the word 3 uf LuulL
hich I this time," imply that it
I the Lw ... ^ . liup Andrews to conaecme
Ihe church pLat^,
I have :^een i\ considerable list of the church
plate so consccnvtcnl, but, unfortunattdy, I cannot
Liy my hand upon it just now. The fomi drawn
up by Andrews becatne the model by which similar
consecrations were conducted by other bishops in
the seventeen Ui century* Thus, at Ciinterbury
" all the vessels undenvent a solemn consecnUion/'
And Archbishop Bancroft consecrated the altar
plate which hmi been given by Loni Digby, for
his friend Kettlewell^ iu Cole ah ill Church, In
Warwickshire, in the first year of King James IL
** The inanner whereof being somewhat rare and
extraordinary," a description is |(iven of it in the
Life of KtUltwtll^ pp. r»C^ 57, which is too lon;^' to
be repeated her© ; it will be enough if 1 say that
it is clear from it that Andrews'^ Form wtia used *
(see also Editor's Preface to the Form in ** Anglo-
Catholic Library")*
I conclude that an effort was made by the Kon-
jurors t<) revive and perpetuate the custom, since
Sancroft and Kettle well, and the donor of the
Stretham chalice^ were all Nonjurors. This last
was rtichard Oldham, Fellow of 8t. Jolm*s College,
Canibritige, and Rector of Strctham from 1678
untLl he wsis deprived in lODO. Who consecrated
our chalice is not known ; it may have been
Francis Turner»t theu Biahop of Ely, who himself
became a Nonjuror.
It would be verv interesting, I think, if tlirough
**K. k Q/' a collection could be made of the
places where church plate was originally conse-
crated since tho Reformation, where such con-
secrated plate has been melted down, or exchanged
for more modem plate, and where dso it still
remains. It would give additional interest to such
a list if instances where so reverent a practice has
been observed in recent times were recorded in it.
I have been t^ld that the old altar plate at
kSi. Catherine's College, Cambridge, was C43nsc-
craterl ; but the present set is modem.
I will only add here that Bishop Andre ws^s
Form provides also for the consecration of the
candlesticks and of the censer too.t
HUOH PlOOT.
P.S, — Bishop Patrick, of Ely, used a Form
(I7t>4) for consecrating churches dniwnup by him-
self, in which there was a prayer for the consecra-
tion of the communion plate (see Frocicr on Book
of Common Fraycrf p. 155).
irve. given in
'lion, p. 1£»L
aner of •' the
U collections*' of
I unier, which wer©
* Thf r
Warren ^
t Js it ,-.,.-..^
literwy. aniiquiinan, ari4
Georg« Harbin, cbrtplnin
' -'Ts, I'tittick & Simpson in tho
>, 18731 Thcfie might throw
ttdvtrtiec'tl for
Guard i fin of 5
fiomc liKht oc Ti
X Btshcrp Andrfiwa had in his chafiel '
Center '* (sec list of artiiclef in his chupeb ^ -^^i
vol. iv., xcriii* xcix)» wherein the Clerk putunu. vx^wt.-
incense ot the reading of i\i« tmt \i«!iftQ^r
111
222
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[y* a n. Sew, 10, 74
SCOTCH PEEES.
A Bill Ims been sjiokeii of to inquire into the
Scotch and Irish Peerage, It would oe more clear
and simple to have a separate inquiry into each*
In 17tv7, at the Union between Scotland and
England, it was most unfairly settled that only
sixteen Scotch peers were to sit in PiurliiMnent
instead of the whole number. All the English
peers sat in the combined House of Peers. An-
other imfuir thing was tliat all Scotch peers of each
order were to have rank and precedency next to
and after the youngest English peer of the same
degree. They oii^^^ht to have mnked according to
the date of creation of each. At the Union the
Scotch peers numbered 154, and soon after other
nine, whose names bod l>een accidentidly omitted,
were added to the roO. At present the Scotch
peers number eighty-four ; of whom forty are also
peers of England, or of Great Britain^ or of the
United Kingdom^ and are thus qiuJiJied to alt.
From eighty-four tidce forty^ and tnen the sixteen
representative peers, and we have twenty-eight
remaining out in the cold, altboiighj in the nature
of things, they have more right to ait in Parliament
than any of those persons whose peerages have
been credited since 1707. Nearly all the Scotch
peers, who are also pcera of Great Britain or of
the United Kingdom, are tmfairly given a rank
one or two degrees below the one they hold in
the Scotch peerage. It is an aftVont to the
whole Scotch nation that a Scotch duke should
have to record hift vote under an alinf, as Kirl
Something ; and that a Scotch earl should have to
register hi.s vote under the disgidse of Baron
Whatsbtsname, AYhat is wanted is that all Scotch
peers should sit as such in the House of Lcjrds ;
and that in the three countries the individuals in
each grade of the peerage should take precedence
amono; themselves acco^ng to the date of creation
of each.
At the Union, what was the reason that only
Bixteen Scotch peers were allowed seat« I At that
time, in the reign of Queen Anne, there was an
intention to bring in a bill about the succession to
the crown. iMany of the Scotch peers were Jaco-
bites, or were suspected to be so ; and there is an
idea that, tXB their way of voting might have been
inconvenient, this was the reason of limiting the
number. This notion, probably, had some weight;
at the same time this theory does not account for
the unfair displacement of many Scotch peers by
the unjust rule inflicted on tbem^ that the oldest
Scotch peer of each grade wns to have precedency
next to and after the youngest English peer of the
same order !
From the inaccurate way that the matter is
soraetunes referred to, it would seem that some
persons forget that there are five kinds of peers :
(1) of Scotlind ; (2) of England ; (3) of Ireland ;
(4) of Great Bntain ; and (5) of the United King-
dom. The subject is interesting in a
point of view, nnd it is only in this way thai it i
humbly referred to here,
Thomas fiTaArroi.
Stoke, Devonport.
GIPSY CHICISTIAN KAME&
This is a subject which has been eatlier
over or far too brietly handled by the yarious
who have discu88e<i the origin and history
English (jipsies, Gipsies are very conservj
the mattei of Christian names ; and in many of t]
which are current amongst them at the
day, we can see tmces of the route adopi
the Romani mce prior to iU arrival m Ef
The following names have been coll^
at diflerent times and in difl'erent p: . ^
but I can myself indicate the source uf but few
them, as I know little or nothing of the history
Christian names. Possibly some of the neaders of
*'N, & Q." may be able to throw light on the
origin of the rest.
I purpose to divide these names into Gttfkf
German, and French names ; into n- •'^- -
tiiin origin ; names existing, th
England ; Biblical names ; and hu : . . ,
Puritan origin.
1. Greek names, 3fa?€: Dlmitii with tlieTu^
Tchinghian^s Dimftri, Plato, Pyrati i
ik as t. Fem<iU: Angelina, the T< \:
lina, Bosia, i. c, Theodosia j cf. the Tclungh*
names Dcishi and Theodosi.
2. German. MaU: Oscar.
3. French. Male: Emeline. Femaic: Mtui^^
Itilne, R^^n^e.
4. Names of uncertain origin. Males Anido
(commonly pronounced Wanseir "'
Farden. ^Female: Cilli(lCe'
Lolli, Liberina^ Mallndi, Mank], ^ n iinm^, injuu.,
Rjchenda, Kia (? Mjiria), Sago, Sinaminti, Stor-
lina, Synti, Tiiini (? Diana), Zyra.
5. Uncommon English names. Jfafe.* Adolpbos,
Ambrose, Arnold, Christopher, Lancelot^ Lwurenoft
i}\ i ver, 0 wen , Sy d ny , S vl veater. Fan ah : Annalx-I,
Britannia, C:imelia, Ethel, Lavinia, LementiuA,
Lina, Lucretia, Leonora, Mabel, Korah, BempixtBiAp
Therewi.
6. Biblical names. Of these there are a perfert
host, of which I give a few of the mo«t curiotu.
Mate: Gabriel, Goliath, Lazarus^ ^le^hai^h, Ohc-
diah, Sampson, Shajdnicb, Sylvanus, UrialL F#-
vuilc: Athidiah, Delilah or Beliiah, Tiyphi, Li*
Tryphena,
7. Puritan names. MaU: Liberty/ Beoo&cilf*
Wisdom. FtmaU: Patience, Providence, abhre*
viated into Videy, Prudence.
To these may be added the following namtt,
which I could not well bring under any of
above heads. Male : Gilderoy^ SilvezthanL
1
9> & n. 8*n. 19, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
11223
male : Cinderella^ Justerius. The nniue GUderoy,
^liidi I have met with in Oxfordfihire, is curious^
_bjQ2gv»tA the questioD whether the hero of the
a^ '* Gildetoy was a bonny boy," &c., was a
r& connexion with these names, I would suggest
that any ODe who should c-arefiilly ex/imine the
4>ld Elatow registers, if they still exist^ would pro-
hably be able to determine the question whether
Banyim reidiy wiui whnt Mr, Lehind asserts him
U> hare been, ** a Rom of the Rommimy." The
ttvery of such a name its Pkto or Dimiti in the
fan family would clearly prove that such was
' ' ' > case. Much, too, renxains, I believe, to
I cx)nceming the old Gipsy fhuiiliea from
^ tera of Norwood, Epping^ Yetholm, and
sf places. Francis Hindes Groojck.
BAEBABITIES: ADMINISTRATION OP THE
LAW IN lEELAND.
I In » former number of ** N. & Q." attention was
^^.dii^ected to the frequency of capital punishments
^fin England dnring the last centuiy. The Irish
I noonk of the last century show that not only
was there little respect for human life in Ireland,
Imt ' - h waa inflicted under circumstances
Iwhi led still i^freater barbju'ity tlmn pre-
fTa.ilt'M lu i.ngland. The crljne of murder was
aishcd dimply with death, as in Euj^laod ; but
Ivation of the life of the criniiual was, in
a, accompanied with many of the horrora
to high treason. It will lie also seen,
when robbery waa punished with death, that not
I ma hour was given to the criminal to prepare for
^biii pasaage &om thi» life into eternity I As to
^Bnitior offences, for which no higher penalty than a
^pnBail fine is now imposed in London, they were
^ (m the following notes will prove) followed by a
inai« aevere whipping than is now administered to
m bffita) gniTotter tn England.
Til il extracts jire taken from an edition
Ipf ti and Gfntkmnn*a Magazine, pirated
I linrjiifi prLnt4»r named Exshaw, who had aa
ne and remorae in appropriating to hia
I Inbours of others as a Yankee pub-
m^Tork or Boston now has in spoliating
Twithor.
GihhetUjtg :—
•* July l<Jth- At the Aastzea of Clonmel, niaetcon men
mra cDnd«tntied, of vrhom were one Mam^bin two aons and
^ bft>ther, who wore to be gibbeted for murdering & {ledler
t»boul «ix moritba im£0." — London Ma^aiintt vol. x. p.iKM,
* Juty, 1741 (Exihftw'i Dublin eaitioa).
2^ ^f and gihhttiin^ : —
* r r John Bodkia FitxoliTer, Dominiek
Bodk..^ ^ -i.a Uog&n,the shepherd, were brought to
thmhr trUI* at Tuam, Tbej teTemHj plcftded guilty,
ft aad riNreiiriid aeotcuce U> be hanged uid gibbeted the
^Kmut day. . . . The/ were nil very penitent ftt the pl»oo
^Bvf exccntioQ. After they had bong for h few mlnutefl
they h&d their heada cut off^ and were gibbeted on the
road to Gftliray» in sight of the bouse where the murder
was committed.'*— 7Bi(i», toL i. p, 521, October, 1741.
Hanging and quartering:—
** At the CommlsBion of Oyer and Termluer* Bichard
B&llai'd, Bryan Meeban^aud Terence Reilty found icuUty
of murder ftnd robbery, to he hanged and quartered." —
Ibid., p. 521, October, 174L
Boman Catholics hatnng Jirt-arms : —
*' October 21 it. At the Commission of Oyer and Ter-
miner, Wilttam and J. Murtagh, two brothers, were tried
and found guilty for carrying arms, being Papists, and
were fined each £Z0, and are to be imprisoned for one
year."— /tiff., p. fMG, October, 1745.
A Shor. Shrift for Footpa^a : —
"November 25th* liaurence Sherry, Denis Murphy,
Peter Neaglc, anil Thomas Kerry, tried at His Majesty's
Court of King^s Bench, for several robberies committed
near Dublin, were found guilty and received sentence of
death. A gallows was erected for tbem near Brumcondra.
and they were carried from the Court to the place of
execution. Tbis was dona in order to put fin end to the
robberies which hare frequently been committed for
some time past/' — Ihid., p. 6i6.
** 18th February- Three footpads wore tried for street
robberies, and being convicted were ordered for imme^
dtate execution, and accordingly hanged in 8tepben*i
Green/— /iw^., vol. xvi.p. 104, Febroary, 1747.
WTiipf^^mg a Woman : —
'' At the Quarter ScMions at the Tholnel. Catherine
MulUn, of Swan Allc^, in Cook Street, for keeping a
bad bouse, to be whipped/^ — Ihid., toU xi. p. 365,
October, 1742.
mipping a carnian for insolenctt —
"About the same time" (Augnit 3) "a drifcr of a
hackney- chai»e, who refused to go with a fare though not
lured, and for great abuse offered to the person who
wanted to engage him, was found guilty of an a&sauU (1)
and was whipped round Stephen's Green pursuant to his
sentence." — lUd^ toI xi. p. 365, August^ 1742.
miippin^j a hackney (coachman : —
"The same day" (August 5) **Paal Kew, driver of
coach Xo. 47, was whipjped through the city, from New-
gate to College Green, lor giring abusive language to a
gentleman, and refusing his just hirtJ'—lUa., vol, xri.
p. 347, Auguat, 1747.
Hanging f dvattnng and quariering — v?oman
brirjied : —
"AtAthy" (were conricted and sentenced) "James
Lawier and Catherine Bingbam, his motber, for the
murder of Richard Bragban, {tic) of BrtlI>'Tasji, her second
bosband, to be hanged, drawn and ciuartered, nud she to
beborned."— /WJ,, vol, xr. p. 376, July, 174(5,
Httsfxind and xcife hung for the same crime: —
"July 11th. Edward and Mary CosteUoc, husband and
wife, were executed at St. Stephen's Green for filing and
diminishing tbe gold coin.** — Ihid*i tob xix. p. 880,
July, 17M),
Bhooting peophfor crying ^^ Shame !^^: —
•• Angust 5th. Wednesday last the Sub-Sheriff of the
Co. of Publin. attended by a party of Constables, and a
detachment of soldienfrom the Poddle Guard, under the
command of a Sergeant, went to the Commons of KU-
mainham to prerent the assembling of people to see tbe
races to b« run there that afternoon as bad been done the
days preceding. To do this cffectualt^ ^^id&Ta'vct^ ^wst
224
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t5»ait B^n
to puli ilown the liorithM, and breixk tbe barrelfl in which
were strong hiiuoif), which wag puiicti]all]r executed;
Knd the popuhice expressing their diHipprobBlion iit tuch
procoe<itngi by crying out— ih ft me, shame^ or, as some
say, a etc»ne haTJniE beeo thrown, the Boldiers were coni-
wanded to fire, which they did, iind killed one miui who
died on the root, and wounded three others, who died
80on after/*— /iirf., toI. xti, p. 347, Augnitj 1747*
Beyond the fact that the coroner's inquestfi^
both ID the county and city of Dublin, returned
verdicts of " Wilful murder/' there does not seem
to have l>een any one prosecuted or pujiished for
thcise unprovoked homicides.
Tbef^e extracts suffice to prove that cruelly as
tbe crimintd law was enforced in En^4ind in tbe
eighteenth century, it was in Ireland characterized
by biirbjvrism, or it was held in abeyance by those
on whom its due administration devolved.
Wm. B. Mac Cabe.
" WaPPEN^D WIDC^W." —
" That makes the wa^n'd widow wed again.**
Ttmon of AthtfUf Act iv. ic, S.
)r* Stmtmann quotes, in support of the word
<!ppmd (clothetl or wnipped up)^ —
" his bodi is wappid a1 in wd,'*
from the Song^ and Car oh edited by T. Wright
for the Percy Soa, voh xxiii* p. 38. A friend,
referring to this, says : *' In Skrdton's poem, en-
titled IVo^jfuUy Arnydj occurs a similar expres-
aioDj —
* Thus wrappid all in woo/
In a MS. of thi.s same poem, published in the
Atficnaium, 29th Nov., 1873, the line is given, —
* Thus wrappyd all yn whoo/
In vol. jii. VariortLm Sfial^mre^ 1821, p. 21,
occurs the following (juotntion from one of the
ancient mysteries : —
*The fende of hell that la vour foo,
He bhall be wrapp^ ami ^(niudyn in woo.*
^ow (ptery, is the word wappid^ quotcil by Strat-
[^manii,. a true word, or is it only a contraction of
he urrajypyd or wrappid of Skelton / Take a
arallel, or what I suppase to l>e a parallel ca*e.
our old books we frequently find known and
[andoubted words contracted ; for instance, depend
we find written or print-ed drpcd ; but no lexico-
apher would think of lieiiding an article with
pcd^ If it can be shown that imppid h merely
[a contraction of jn-apind^ the support which Dr.
3tfatn]ann\s quotation aflbrds his article ivajipaid
him, and its confirmation as a true word b
yet to seek." Thnt jtrap will corrupt to ivap is
proved by the provincial word impe^ to wrap or
cover up (see HaUiwell). We find the r dropped
in other words, hh Frenc!h doi, from Latin dorsum.
^he woril might also come from tbe provincukl
I KMtpCf pale, or from Saxon tcfljp^n^rf, wtepned, weep-
Idng («'«>au, p.p. wepm^ heu^fKHj to weep, mourn,
I ^^pendtiCf mournful, lamentable)* I take it, how-
■iifc
ever, thai the most reasonable conjocttin' is 1
from wappejCd^ "worn, ^ * i cordiug I
Grose, a Uloucester^hire ^ ** retUMi
fatigued; spoken of a mi *v |".a,m) , whiQ
compare with nhapcy used by Sj*enaer for to.^
or deject {impid^ troubled, soiT'tv^nnl in <
and with the old French m l>ona» ^tu|
perdu sa force, sans vigueUTj b ^ . >J4tU 1
foible, dtjbile, qui exhale mauvaise odcu
inaipide en gout ; esprit porte au maJ,
cceur, vapidus " (see Roquefort).
R* S. Obabsiogs.
Qray's Inr.
"As SOUND AS A TROUT." — I ^ti.1 ihi^ pHrwp"
early in the fourteenth century in In;
lish versions of the Cu rmrMuvdi w ; i : 1
Morris is editing for our 1
Society.' Two doctors, at the i
son, make a tutth of pitch and Lirim»U>ne tw tui
the dise^ised and stinking king in ; and they t**!!
him that when he comes out of it —
'* >ou m1 be hale eum ani trut©.'''^r*^f#fm MS.
** t>a s&l be hal ats ani troute," — G^ S:
'* ]}ou sal be bale as a tronte.'^ — F^^
** |?ou shal be hool aa any troate."— >'.
This book is full of quaint and ust I
F* J. r L ilM 'ALL
i
Singular Tenoreb. — I made a not* of ilic
following, which {inkf alia) are to lie foiijid in
Edks of Liieratxirr, edit. 1823, pp. 152, 3:—
"King John gave ievenikl lands at Eeppert^n aaJ
Atterton» in Kent, to RoUrmon Attefeld, to b* h^h\ 1'?
this singnlar tt! " ' 1' ' ' ' ' ' '
pleased to cro*<^
should be obli^-'
luadi if there shuuld bo ucciu-iun ioi it, li
dhould be seasick ' ; and it appears, by the r
Tower, that thia frame otBce of h\ ' ' ' ' -' ' u i^ uliuwi^^
performed h\ the reipm of Edw&t
"William, earl of Warren, I rrJ, in ibc
time of KinET Jvhn, while etandii ^
eaw two bulls fighting in the ca^i
butcher dogB pursued one of the ..,^,..
the noise of the multitude) quite lb-
The Bight p!efi*cd the earl so much '■.
eastio nxau'. r. the duel of the ^
oomniou r t: r* of the town, l; :
wfti niowu_. „ , dition that they cL :. . „„_ ..
hull, the day six weeks before Chnstmae-fiay, lor tibe
continuance of ihni ^-porf for ever,"
"The town, r ' " ' ' ' ' f , ^^vA
to the sheriffs < -Ai »p9
to be baked in t . \ . . 'ti de-
lifered to the lord oi tlie mtiuor ul lu. oha i«
to convey them to the kin^. And 1 < onon,
Thom«s de Per' ' ' -^ i>i-,. , |^^
thirty ncres of i coiialj
of Norfolk, by i^ kinj,
^vlRTi-ver be ^tiuulii bo iu Eitglaiidj ii^cuiy-four |i*etiei
of fredh herrings at tlieir fimt coming in-"
Fredk- Bnju
Lavertoit CifuncK. — Whilst driving round
Laverton (Somenei) I looked m at Ui* qn '
^tUm^
* B, n* gEPT, 19, 71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
225
Je chtirtli Trhich is nnder repair. The floor of
beil-chnmbcr had falleni and one of the bells
ncktMl nno with an inficription in an oM
FStarACtcr) wtis being put into a wuin to be tiiken
[lo the foundry to be broken np* In these days of
eolo|^cal i-esenrch porhops some umluous c^m-
^lowinn may try to prfservc iin object which, if
: TiH rise, is worth notice na having hang
lunches in the patronaj/e of TI.K.H.
li/nice oi t'omwilll. Ela SboID.
kington Castle.
** S!IRET*.lxchor/' thnt ts, ** .s^oot-anchor ^* : —
L"yof Imely of lUl men be f^ my rhrefc banker
"iformeAt* Midmopo niefe ehootAnker."
Udall '» RoitU i t\ 1 55S» A rber 8
........... 11.
The t^rm ppobably had reference to shoaling the
Dain anclior out at the bows of a «htp.
J, T. F.
llAtAeld H«]l, Durlinm.
ARcnuEACox Desv'alpok. — The following in-
' scription on ei meraoriitl sltib upon the floor of tho
south-west chapel of the church uf Dorchester-
t nprjn-Thame, Oxon, may be worth preserving. It
I commemomtea a di^^uitary of the Galliaui Chureh
I of the bst ce.ntur\', who died in exile :—
" To the memory of the Rev.
Micltael Thoomin Dcavalpoti
Apred 02
jyj). Be C Jj. Arch Deacon and Vicar-
Generul of Dol in britany
A H«n conspicuonn for hi a htep
Knowledge and hirt >f' ral Virtuea
Exiled since 17:^ ' liifion
sad his King, 1 ] deceived
by the En^.. ..- n.
DeoeMed at Orery March '^d 1798
gretklly indet'tr*! ti the Frimilv of
Mr Davev, itiI '
Omrcb at tbe K- 6
of the BeTd. Dr. -„...., „, .rden
of Nor ColieTO, Uxtm*
R. I. K-
[ D^veVB of Dorchester are an old Roman
olic wmily, and their residence is culled
ery'^ or ^'Overies."
Frkderick George Lee,
^tnccx CAROLrxE, — There is a siDguIiir in-
*jjr in Mrs. SoTOerville's Personal liecoUcc-
with regiird tu Qaeen Caroline's appeal for
ion Ut the nn wiifi'^n fif rnr^TL^o 1V» On
t dar, I was y\. r of Great
p ^^trr<^t whirl 1 lire view of
d the royal pnicer*atun, and I saw
10 drive po^t the house on her wny
y, and al8<) od her return^ after her ill-
nipt. It took phuiQ rather early in the
' houra before the pageant of
Lordfi made iU ^low progress
i^fi further attempt was made by
rid th«* whole of the prooeedinga
pfi^ssed oft' poAceably. Tliere were a few hisses
raiiicd by the crowd, when the majestic Lord
Londonderry, in the full robes of a Knight of the
Garter, passed by ; but thc«e were immediately
silenced by the hirije^c citst by his almoner among
the |»eople. There was no disturbance at the
banquet in the Hall, or ut any of the ceremonies,
A friend of mine, who was pi*esent, told ine that
the never witnessed a more striking scene than
when the king stood up and totv^ted Jiis people,
amid the acekmations of all present The appli-
cation was made by the Queen before the coro-
nation, the claim being that she \vji3 entitled to
share in that rite. An admission to the HaU after
the ceremony could not have conferred any titular
benefit upon her. Z. Z,
" FANATta" — It is alwaj^s interesting to notice
the introduction of new words into a lanjjua^e, bnt
it is renuisitc that the testimony to their novelty
should oe trustworthy.
Olu' ever-ddij;;htful Fuller, speaking of the word
" Fanatics," calls it a " new word coyncd within
few months " (Mixt Coutemplationn, lG6c\ Part IL,
I p, 77). He mentions a Hebrew and Greek
etymology, but adds, ** most certainly the word is
Liitin, ftomfanum, a temple."
The word occurs in illnsheu's (htUh into
Tongues^ 1G27, where it is defined, '* mad, fran-
ticke,^' itlso inspired with ** prophetical! furie."
William E. A* Axo^r.
CrRtous Ektbt op Marriaqe in Ohalgrafs
Parish Reolsters. Co. Bedford, during the
CoMMONWEALTn, 1655. —
" Henry Pisher and Sarah Newson, of Limve, pub-
Ibhod three ieTerfLll Lord« dajes in our psh. Mttiinrf
NoiU€ caled th^ church ended the xxtij''' of Septb. atwi
D0« excepton made agairtit it, and the Baid Heniy Ftther
and Saiun Neirson wiw married tbe xxix'^ of September,
80 by eertificat doth appearo by Fninciea AuFtercs, Esq.,
and in piontB. of Will: Martin and Abraham Newaon/'
D. 0. K
The Crescent, Bedford.
Paris Prisons (5^^ S, i. 468; ii. 153,)--I »ay
be, perhaps, allowed to complete some of Mr. M.
Van Ers's statements about the Prisons of Paris*
The "College d« Plessis,'* which became a
prison durin;^' the first French Revolution, wan
founded in 1^17 by GeoflVoi dn Plessis, apostolic
notary and secretary of Philippe V., ** le Lon|r,^*
near the **Coll(^gjc dc Clermont," since "Lycee
LotiiS'le-Grand," which stands Rue Saint-Jacques.
The building has lieen used since for various
scientific purjxn^es, and received at different times
the *' Ecole Kormalo '^ and the *' Faculty de
Th^oJojkrie, dea Lettres, des Sciences/' and **dc
Droit."
Bainte-P<^kgiei9D0wBaedelaClet It c^fuied
several years ago being a prison for debtois.
Clichy was then assigned 4o ^risc^t^^v% ^i N^sAu
226
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5«aU*8EPf,l&/T4
description, until the prison for debtors was
aboHsbed in France. During NapolfK>n IIL's
reign, journalisU nnd politioil writers^ when con-
demned for a " delit dc presse,^* used to be shut up
in Sainte-P^lagie.
Les Madelonettes was a prison as late ns 18G7.
At that time the prisoners were transferred to
another building, situate near the Observatory, not
far from the Boulevard Montpamasse.
Henri Gaxisseron.
Ajr Academy.
John Yiccars, the Oriental Scholar* —
John Viccars, who published his Bccapla »n
Fifdmoif &c., in 1639, i« Raid by Anthony a Wood
to have been " a most admired linguint, and the
best for the Oriental hmgmigea of bis time."' I
shall Ikj glail to put on record in the pages of
** N. & Q." a discovery^ which, I believe, I have
I made as to the birthplace of thia worthy. The
■nccount of Dr. Henrj- SarapHOn in the Non-
conformists' Manoriul saya that he was son of
Mr. Willitim Sainp&on, of South Leverton, co,
Kotti?, and nq)}mv, by the ihotli^g ddc, to those
two eminent Hebrew scholars, John and Samuel
Yicars. Hariufj discovered from Thoroton that a
Gregoiy Vickera wa-s a freeholder at Treswell, a
neighbouring parish* in 1012, I appliei.1 to the
fl^ector there, and he coiirtt_^ously giearched his
legisters for me, with this result : —
**1601| Helino ViccarB, d. of Gregory Viccara, bapt,
25tb Dec."
*' 1604, John Viccura, son of Gregory ViccftW, bfipt.
SOtU Oct'/'
*' 1G07. Samuel ViccRrSj uon of Gregory Viccara, bapt.
13th ApriL**
These were the only^ entries of Viccars found,
but there can \te little doubt tliat they refer to the
two learned brothers and their sister, who married
%Villiam Saiu|xson of South Leverton. I should
he glad to know more concerning the two Viccarses
than whiit h contained in the works uUnded to,
and, idso, whether William Sampson can be the
poetical writer of that name who was their con-
temporaiy. Clk.
DounLE CuRiBTiAy NA!ffE8.— The Fdll Mail
G<mtk of 10th August, 1874, refers to the '' Table
Talk " of the Guardian, which n^ks, " What is the
earliest example of a double Christian name in
England t *' It cites one from the Register of T.im-
worth Church, l-it Nov., 1^)80, which records the
baptism of Robert, son of Thomas Dooley Pyp.
But, says the PaU MaU, Anthony Ashley Cooper,
^Afterwards first Earl of Shaftesbury, was born l«i21,
nd it is not likely that the Thom^m Dooley Pyp
aforesaid was born earlier. Is there anything
fixed about thia by antiqaariea^ The remark,
of course, applies only to private Englishmeri,
I Sobriquets like Phintagenet must, bowerer, have
been civen to many knights aa well as to those of
foral lineage, and they would have this peculiarity.
that they would be inserted between the surrtJTjng
and Christian name. Ashley, howevc
representative probably of property. 1
it would take the position of the sobri^u
between the Christian name and surname {
bequeathed, it migtit follow the Rirname,
convert that original surname into what is
culled a Christian name. I do not know wlmt ]
the origin specially in the case of Uie Shaftesba
family, and have no leisure to seek ; but i
the readers of ** N. & Q.'' can, of coui'se, '
thus much, if not able to lix the ftrstJ^
definitely. C. A- WaKD*
Majfair.
A Poetical Will. — The following quaint
cluiracteristic production was writ^ '^^ ^'"' ^^^ ^
Cooper Grooott, an oi'togeuarinn Lt
recently deceased. Mr, Grocott w.i .
An Inder of Familiar Quotation^ .i
Modem, a work which has [>assed thr
editions :—
"A Lawte&'s Will.
26th Jauuarj, IS35.
ThLa ia tny la«t Will and Testament :
Road it according? to my intent.
Hy gracious God to mo liath ffiv'n
Store of good thiiign that, under bear'n.
Are lov'n to those • that love the Lord,
And hear and do Hia eacred Word ' ;
I therefore tjivo to ray dear Wife
AIJ my Estates, to keep for life.
Ileal and Pertonul, Profit4, Rentf,
Mesaaages, Landi, and Teaementa;
After her death, I give the whole
Unto my Children, one and all.
To take as * Tenants in Comtuon ' da,
Not as * Joint Tenant*,' * per mie— p«r to«t*
May God Almighty bleis His Word
To all my ' presents from the Lord,*
May Ue Hu bloAstngps on them shed
When down in skep they lay their head.
I give ali my * Trust Eatatea ' in fee
To Charlotte my Wife and Derive.
To hold to her, on Tnist»» the ttkme
As I now hold them Iti my name ;
I give her power to convey the fee,
As fully as though 'twere done by me.
And here declare that from ail * cbarsea *
My W jfe*9 ' Receiptt are good </t>*c barges/
And now, my Wile, my hopes 1 fix
On tbeoj my Sole Executrix —
My truest, beat, and to the end
My faithful Partner, ' Crown/ and Friend-
In Witness whereof, T hereunto
My Hand and Seal have set,
In presence of thone whose uamcv below
Subscribe and witness it
J, C. G. (i.3L)
This Will was published, senled and dgn*d.
By the Testator, in his right misd,
In preecence of us, who, at hit request.
Have written oar namea these facts to attaH.
S, a D.
J. M,
J. C
NOTES AND QUERIES.
22T
i nqneit correspondent*! deiiring iiifonn»tioii
iljf QiAttent of only priTKte iniereet, to liffix their
uid mddnnet to their queries^ in order UiAt the
I iDfty bft ftddnned to them direct.]
BIicttAKL*s CnuHcn "m Pekil of Titr
AJJD ITS English Possessions. — In the
id Chartukiy of this Abbey, the^e m a ^prant
mry I, of England which I have not seen
' liere. He gives to the monks ** duo-
t eire inDeneveaira in manerio meo de
1^ in escambio duarum ecclesiarum suarum
£jmv& et de Calsiiv quaa dedi et conc<?s3i
e ae Badinguis in elemosina/' &a In an
in the SatMrtia}/ Eemcw of 2oth July last, on
!^ of the great battles between Alfred and
tnes on ^Escesdun in 1(X>G, mention is made
^* ijiln.jpr cliurch," called Cholsey, not fiir
■rd* wliich ** was given by Henry I^^
ominster, as a cell to hia newly-
d Abbey of Reading." Is this the Calsia
Mont St. Michel charter, and where is
mvs, or is it the Banie as Leominster?
!g!i is donbtless Budleigh, in South Devon.
rigtnal g:rant of these two churches, thus
Tom Mont St^ Michel and given to Reading,
,ot appear in the Chart ulary ; nor have I
L the fact of this Noniian ab)>ey holding
n Devonshire in any of the county histories.
Held St. Michad's Mount in Cornwall by
' Edward the Confessor, which Robert of
n afterwards confirmed, and added farther
T Willi ; while " Liuricos " (»o the
►p of Exeter, freed them from
A L- 1 by himself or his successors
i of Pope Gregory VII. A farther
interesting grant was made to this
}>y Couiin, Duke of Brittany and
lond, of the manor of Wath, in
ikie^ Inrfore the middle of the twelfth cen-
The Duke's two chartera are recorded in
hj&nd than the body of the Chartulary, and
Iresaed to his steward, constable, and chani-
" liis barons and knights, and to all his
, Britannis et Anglict%'' showing
iijceiy Htate kept up at Richmond Castle.
XL confirmed the gift of Con an, who was
""•'< of the old Dukes of Brittany, by a
h his son Geoffiy, styled " Comes
. .. , .J married Conan's heiress, is a witness.
vc not obaen^ed this Yorkshire property
in any account of the English poaeessions
t St. Michel. The Chartulary of the Abbey
t inr^restTTijijrecordof itsNorman and Breton
tainingas itdoes so manyof the
►Tor's loUowers, is well worthy
L'Ush antianaries. It h said
[isle^ of Yalogneii, the eminent
liogist^ contemplates printing it.
Anolo-Scotus,
Authors and QtJOTATioxs Wanted. —
"A daup;hter of the gods, divinety tall and most
divinely fair."
F. K
Poem, " Mak." — It commences —
** Lik€ OS the d&maik rose you see^
Or like the blossom on the tree/'
A. F.
^ Before her face her h&ndkerchief she Bpronit
To hide the flood of tei^rs she did not »M,'*
James T. Pheslet.
What French poet thus beautifully and epigram -
matieally expresses love — mutual love at Mrst
sight i —
*' Et comrae tm jeune ctour est bientdt enitamme ;
II me vit« il m'aima ; je le rti, je I'nimai.*'
— Fp*edic. Rule^
" Hkc Itber est in qao qunerit sua dogmata qnisqaOi
luTenit et pariter dopmaU qutsque sua,"
Some time ago I published the subjoined imitation
of the above in one of the fugitive publications of
the day. I knew at that time who Wiis the author
of the original linos, but I have now cj^tdt© for-
gotten :—
" Motto for a Slave-ovn^i Bihli.
This is the Hook
Into which we all look
For the doctrineji to which wo *re a mind ;
And, when we to look
Into this Book,
Such doctrines we all of us find.**
BayHWfttor. SE?fEX.
** Bolda&d erect the Caledoaiati stood ;
Old wna bis matton and hii claret good.
' Let him drink port/ the Erlgliih atateiman cried ;
Ue drank the polsoo, and his spirit died/'
R, H, Wallace.
" B^^hus et legibuf , Scotlci const&ntes,
Yos clypeii et gladiU pro patriis nuirnantea^
VeBt™ est Tictoria, Testrt est et glorm.
In cantu et hlBtoriftj perpcs est memoria I "
These lines arc quoted, without reference^ in
Sir Waller Scott's Minstnhy of tht ^coiiish
Border f edit. 1861, vol. i. p. 353. Cornub.
Ajlesia. — ^ this common female Christian name
of the Middle Ages to be regarded as standing by
itself, or as a corruption of some other name/
Dugdale, and all modem writers after him, t^ike it
for granted that the name is a variation of Alice.
I think this Bup]x>sition is effectually disposed of
by the fact that in medifeval documents the two
names are always kept distinct, and the sjime
person is never called both Alesia and Alicia,
unless by a patent slip of the pen. The same
person is called Agnes and Annis^ Ami eta and
Amia, Alianom and Elienora, Matilda and Maude,
Thomasia and Thomasina, Avelina and Alina ; but
it is worth notice that the former appear to be the
Latin terms, and the latter tlwi fetviXiOck, ^^sX.
328
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[B^aiT. SsrfitSi
Aloflia and Aliciii ar^ never confounded, I» it
poaaibla th^ Alesia (in French docuinentfi com-
monly rendered Aleys) ia the original form of
Louisa, as derived from the old Italian spelling,
Aloisa or Aloisia } Or is it also |>08sible that it ib
connected with H^loise ? At thi*i time, while Louis
wfts eomtnon enough, Louisa was not domiciled in
France, unless it were under the form of Alesia.
I think the name was introduced there by Louise
of Savoy. With regard to Hcloise, there ia no
more unlikelihood of such a derivation (Hekwif^e
^H^loise^Alesin) than of another which in cer-
tainly the case — Hadewise^=Hawisia^Avice. I
flubmit both suggestionsi^ merely na suggestions, to
the judgment ox your correj^pondents.
Hbbmentbcbe.
ViLLiERa : Da VitxiERS.^One of the most
widely-spread families at the Cape of Good Hope
is that bearinjif the nauie of Ik I illiers. Its mem-
bers are all descended from three brotliers of that
name, who fled from Fi-nnce to Holland after the
revocation of the Edict of Nantes, and came thence
to the Cape with many others of their Protestant
countryiijen. I have heard the arms of the family
Tamely described as a lamb bearing a smaU stand-
ard; bat I believe there is some difference of
opinion as to what their armorial bearings really
are. It ia said that the family came fiiim Rochelle. I
should like to know :— ,^
L Is anythinii^ known of the De Villiers family
before this em ignition l
2. Are there any representatives of this family
still living in Fnmce, and in what part ?
3. If so, what are their armorial bearings ?
4. Are the names Be Yilliers, De Villera, De
Vilhirs, those of difi'erent families, or merely
diifercnt forms of the same name i
5. What is the meaning of the word Villiers,
which serves as a suffix to so many of the names
of places in France (just as in England -wick, -ton,
&C-), aa Baugain villiers, &c. ?
6. What is the origin of the Villiers family in
' England ?
1 he name was borne by the Duke of Buckingham
in Charles I.'s time, and ia now, I believe, borne
by the Earl of Jersey. Are they descended from
the De Villiers famOy, and are they of French
, origin ( " DtAiiowD-DiooEB.
DoatiNicALS,— The rectors of AllhaUows on the
Walla, ^Marj" Stejas, and Mary Arches, in the city
of Exeter, have summoned a number of the in-
habitants of that town for the non- payment of
** Dominicali!." The origin of the custom in Exeter
is not known. It has been supposed to be "sacra-
ment money,'* and to have been levied by the
priests in Roman Catholic times for administering
' the ** Corpus Domini;" The amount now claimed
by the Exeter clergy ia a weekly payment of one
l>enny and an extra payment of fourpenoe at EoiUr*
It ia now claimed from each h< ' ' ^ r wlitD tlit
house does not pay tithes, li - find tlHt
twopence was demanded from i^i ^i.' vrotvhifppin
in the churches on the days on which the L(»d*i
Suppf*'
nioistered, whether the puties iud
or a ..;;..: payment, and i« the payment of
'* Dominicals '* a custom which has the force of lar
aU over England, or merely a local import ? Th»
magistratea of Exeter have decided t ! roittj
ia ]>orfiectIy legal ; and it is, I un ukdtr
to be enforced on all househol ' ur. C«i
any of your readers give a ^ i int of the
origin of these curious imposts .'
EoBBRT BaBCLAT,
Hillside, Belgihie.
Fletcher, of SALTotiK.— Where can I find a
good pedigree of this family? In the Enrvd*^
pccdia Brilannica^ it is stated that Andrew
Fletcher " was descended from an ancient fanulj*
who tniced their origio to some one of thp f-^l-
lowera of William the Conqueror." In'
EncyclopmUa it ia said that his ^ther, ^-
Fletcher, wiis ^* the fifth in the direct line ir>3m Sii
Bernard Fletcher, of the county of York.*' Tl»
pedigree in Burke's Landed Gentry only com-
mences with Audrew^a grandfather, Sir Andre*
Fletcher, of Innerpeffer, an eminent liwyer.
Fletchkb, Bishop of WoRCESTr.B,— Where
can I find any biographical or genealogical infitf-
mat ion concerning him ? W. G. D. F.
Justices' Wages.— Under an old Act, juati'^^
attending (piarter sessions were entitled to n f o*
of four shillings ju^ diem. This papuent w;»- ■
rendered throughout England in the y^ar i
when a select committee reported out!
high sheriff, and complaints were tmtd^
wages often fell upon the sheriff. Wht t;
payment enacted, and when disused ]
J. Charles Coj^
Haselwoodj Belpen
LiTURCJiKfi OF Edwailb VL — The fiwt Pi^jfW
Book of Edward VL was confirmed by Ftfli*-
ment on 4th November, 1548, by Act 2 Ed. VL,
c. i., and was first used on WTiitsun D»y> im
June, 1549.
The second Prayer Book waa confirmed hf
Act 5 & 6 Ed. VL (1663), and waa first VM^
1st November, 1562.
Is there any record of a third Pntyct Book
having been intended, but prevented by the ^mih
of the king? I tin^k this question aa alut *»-
history. S* Wl
BlBLI
of the J
law of evideaoe i
• 5CE.— Ia tliera a book
iLuoea aocordint! to tha
What judge said that the
^im^
futiu
tiiiifl
lleI«Nl^
>BLlLSm.l9,'74.I
NOTES AND QUERIES.
229
)
tociioa of JesUB Christ is certainly proved according
to Uie strictest kws of evid£Qce ; and where \a the
. leoorded i Minucics.
tocmT FcTLLiR. — Burinj? the kt^ restomtion
of ^ lir(!*8 Church, Holbom Viaduct, were
An> tntal remains discovered indicating
the hwrial of this man temp. Hen, yill. ? It is
feported that "he bequeathed his body to be
buried in Corpus Christi Chapel in St, Sepulchre-a
Church without Newgate, London/'
W. WrNTEIlS,
W^lUimm Abbey.
Earl Gonixosbt. — T should be gkd of any in-
fonnation regarding the faniOy of Earl Coning^^by
fthe title Li now extinct), whether Humphrey^ born
in 1681 at Bodenhaiiif and a Humphrey who died
At North Mynina, were one and the aame person ;
whether be was ever married; and^ if ao^ what
he had. G. W. C.
■* Lives qf thb English SAnrrB."— Can any-
one give tOB a complete list of tLi> authors of this
aeriis— one of the beid, productions of the " Oxford
DOYement "— \vith an indication of their respective
<90iDtTibutioas I I have hunted in vain for such a
Ikt Jamss BaiTTEN.
BrltUb JToieaiit.
Sir Edward HtrxomiFORD. — ^Who was the wlfia,
I of Sir Edward Hungerford of Farley, called the
Bpendthiift 1 He had a datighter married in lf>B4.
K. P. D. E.
9*£!orrsoN'a *' Dbbam op Fair Wommu '* (ath
from end): —
— " I WW her, who ctotp'd la her last trance
Her mtirder'd father' b h&Ad.''
Who u she i
Jomc Addis.
TfTf- Old Ladt in Threadnbedle Street. —
How came this name to be given to the Bank of
' ^ t and bow long haj3 it been in u^ ? The
ored to Threadneedle Street in 1732.
T. Lewis 0. Da vies.
P*»r Tfee Vicarage, Soathamptoa.
Jofiy Hooper, Bisnor op Gloucestbr A:n>
I WoRCB»TBR, AND GeoRCE HooPER, BiSHOP OP
IBATa aud Wells.— Is there a pedigree of these
loxiiiting^ and are any of their descendants now
'linBgi J, H. H.
yt"^ ' period was thh prolific
^rf! nthhj Moffoxiiui? If thi^
r Mn Timbs, I think be
u^- to answer this inquiry;
tf ffv, 1 am sure would do so. S« B^ P.
LONDON COMPANIEB, OR OmLD&
(5*fc S, ii. 48, 96, 198.)
Mo, Coleman (p. 198) has given a lidt of com-
panies which, he says, "were not in existence in the
year 1708, but are now to be found among the Com-
panies of the City of London." This ia clearly a
mistake ; the compiler of the ^<fw VifAc of LoiuUm
may not have considered them of such importiince
aa to be worth mentioning in his list, but they were
certainly in existence. On the other hand, I may
misunderBtand Mil. Coleman, and he may mean
thaty in many cases, these companies possessed no
'* Livery " at this particalar time, or, if they did,
that the number of itA members was exceedingly
small. I am aware that the acceasions in tmB
respect have (with sevend of these companies)
occurred in more recent timfes.
The majority of their charters date from the
seventeenth century, but many of them doubtless
belong to an earlier period, though their records
may be lost, and we are thus unacquainted with
their history prior to the respective recognitiona
by the State, Mr, Colei^an begins with the
Basket Makers. It is true that we possess but a
meagre account of their fraternity, but they must
have existed here from time immemorial. Wickecp-
work and basket-making is no modem invention ;
and the practice of any particular trade or craft
by a numoer of persons naturally leada to a union
among them for the protection of their trade
interests, and other scnemes of mutual benefit.
The oompapy is mentioned as early as the year
1540f and, in the year 1665, we hear of them pro-
viding for adverse times by the careful storage ** of
six chaldrons of coals.^'
The Carmen were constituted a fellowship by the
Court of Common Council in the reign of Henry
Till., and by Letters Patent of James L, 1606, ther
were incorporated with the Fuellers, under the title
of Woodmongers ; but in 1668 a dispute occurred,
and the charter was thrown up, the Carmen being
re-appointed as an independent fellowship by the
Court of Common Council Their rules and regula-
tions possess considerable interest, and will well
repay perusal.
The Fan Makers' Company is the only one whose
charter dau bear date later than the year 1708.
It was conferred by Queen Anne, 19th April, 1709.
The Fellowship Porters possessed a hall near
Billingsgate ; they had neither livery nor even
a coat of .'wrnis. Nevertheless their proceedings
were of sufficient importance to be directed
by the Court of Aldermen. In December, 1619,
an Act of Common Council ordered that, "for
the better directing, settling, and establishing
the Company," no measurer of com, &c., nhould
meiifiure grain without the assistance of the Fellow-
ship Porters under a ^nalt^ ^1 %^\. \\i. ^i^oR^ l^^ssai
230
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6*8.IL8iK.l§,Ti.
164G, they were incorporated ns '* tackle and ticket
porters," and t!ie aldennttn of BiUingsg&te Ward
wa« appointed governor.
The Glass Sellers were granted a charter in the
reign of Charles II,, 25tb July, 1664. Besides
the Commonalty^ there is a Master, Warden, a
Court of Assistants, and a mtmber of Hyery men.
A good iUustration of their coat of arms is included
among those recently inserted in the new stained-
glass window lately pat up, under the direction of
the London and Middlesex ArchiH)lo^ical Society,
by the Corporation in the New Library at Guild-
hall.
Gold and Silver Wire Drawers. — KiDg James L,
in the year 1623, granted Letters Patent to the
Company ; but soon after there were grievances
against them, which were reported on to the House
of Commona by 8ir Ed\rard Coke» He said that
as parcel of the Goldsmiths' Company of London,
the citizens of that trade were forced either to
enter into the guild or resign their business,
which " unlawful restraint brought in no bullion" j
and the commodity was dearer than before, so
much 50 that there was f^d, first, and after 4d.
0. B., imposed upon everj' oimce. After thb, the
Act brought in to ratify the Kings Charter was
rejected. A new grant was, however, made by
Willijim and Mary in 1693, the title being
** The Master, Wardens, Assistants, and Com-
momdfcy of the Art and Mystery of drawing and
flatting of gold and silver wire, and making and
spinning of gold and silver thread and stuffs in
our City of London."
Gunmakera, — The charter to this company was
conferred, in 1638, by Charles L Maitlaiid states
that they possessed^ in his day^ neither livery nor
hall. It anpeari*, however, that^ in 17 28, the
Court of Aldermen endorsed a grant as to liveiry-
mtm, and limited the number to a hundred. Some
of the most celebrated gunsmithi! in London are
now members of the guild.
Phiying-Card Makers. — This fraternity had a
charter from Charles L in the year 1629 ; by it
they were to enjoy all the usual privileges con-
ferred on the civic companies. It does not, how-
ever, possess much significance in the present day,
thougn, in the Registration List for 1862 of
persona entitled to vote for Members of Parlia-
ment in the City, it returned names to the number
of twenty-five.
Needle Makers.^ — This is a company which has
until recently been forgotten ; it is now^ though,
beginning to revive. It is the only civic guild
which possesses a charter direct from Oliver Crom-
well. It WAS incorporated by him under Letters
Patent^ lutb November, 165*3, and, curiously
enough^ this was aften^^ards confirmed by Charles
IL The number of their livery was limited to
fifty, but, by a recent application to the Court of
Aldermen from a number of gentlemen interest^
in the resuscitation of the company, this number
has been increased to a hundred^ aad the company
bids fair to prosper. A gathering of its member?
recently took place at the "Albion," and among
those present were many individuals eminent jdLke
in literature and art. The excellent speech upon
the occasion by ^Ir. Parkinson, the senior warnen*
will be remembered by all ttr^^pnt It wk w^U
reported in the Cihj Fres,^
Spectacle Makers. — Inc i - L,
16th Mav, 1630.
Tin Plate Workers. — Their charter dates from
the reign of Charles IL, 29th December, 1670.
Thev have a coat of arms with the motto ** Amoie
Situs Uniti,"
Wheelwrights. — Incorporated also by Charles IL^
3rd Febniary, 1670. In a return of the Livery
Register before quoted, there were as many as
seventy 'three names given in as entitled to T0t&
Woolmen.— Of this company, Allen wiiCee ;—
" The antiquity of this Society may rr - >Jr be
supposed to be equal to that of the - ia
this Kingdom, yet it is onJy a fratt ;.,... ; , prt-
scription. However, it is one of the City Com-
panies, and is distbguished by the name of ** The
Master, Wardens, and Assistants of the Fr*tejnity
or Company of Woolmen of the City of London."
All hist'Orians agree as to the great antiquity of
the City companies. As regards their origin, we
must be careful in affixing dales. The earlMi
charter which any of them possess but lak€i
after all, to a period when tney received a reooig-
nition of a certain kind, and their earlier rules and
ordinances have, in many cases, per ' ' TUeir
origin is probably to be sought in t) i na-
tions which, in a commercial country MKe i-nuiin,
jrrew up from influences that for four centuries
had been gradually imported from Rome, In «o
long a period, how great must have been the
infliience of Roman laws and institutions upon the
customs and habits of the people of this country*
The ** Collegia " of the Empire were analogous to-
our present trade corporations ; and that they
flourished in Roman Britain hits been shown by
various discoveries which have been luadei
inscription found at Chichester immortaliiea
Colkgium Fabrorum (Carpenters) ; another
Caatle Cary, Scotland, the " Image Makers,**
Colkgium Ifignifcrorum ; and a third, found
Bath, commemorates the " Smiths," or <7< *'
Fahricieiuiuvh
That they survived the Roman occupation and
passed down to us through Saxon times, has beeft
abundantly proved, >&. Kemble quotes a de-
faced charter of Ealhere, of the seventh
which refers to ** cniahta geakian," and Hi
mentions a ** guild of knights *' as
A. P. 860-866. In Domesday ther^ is men!
a " guild of clerks " possessing house prop
Canterbury. The analogy of ffuch mstitutloBi
I
I
I
P» 8, U. S«M. 1», 7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
231
^jdtb tiie Roman *' Collegia *^ it la unneccaeary to go
ttto here ; il has been ao fully and ably done bj
H. O, Ooote, F,S.A.» in' bis valuable paper
rjt lied by the London and Middlesex
Society, entitled Ordinance of
likcular Gmld$ of Lojuhn, IS^-l-Uae.
JoffH E. Price, F.S.A.
Sm £caufi« 0/ 'Mnghind and Waks^ vol x.,
it, p* 344 ; also Herbert's Hutory of the
5 Qmtt Livery Companies of Londoit., 2 vols.,
J 1837 ; also ^4 Lut of (In Tiliolt Body of iht
ixfryimn of Londxin^ &c,, London^ 1792 (see
' a;*_i^K^«<fe*, p. nm\ if R. W. F. wonld
re a loan of the Htst-named work, I shall
>lend Uim my copy,
Francis M. Jackson.
Portland Street^ M&achegter.
SriLLUfO Rbfobms (5«» S. L 421, 471, 511 ; ii.
'>.)— I fannot think that Dr, Brewer's elaborate
TOPoaahi (6«» S. i 421, 511 ; iL 61» 123, 143, 163)
ill 1 ' accepted. His ideas of reform
!i. There are ejiger advocates
y iuit\ tr^ii rjLumid system for money, weif^hta,
measures ; to them I reply tliut decimal
on iB a barbarous deduction from the accident
I children and savages count with their ten
ad that if we are to have a reform we
iuce tmht as our radix of notation,
Dtdd goon learn a new multiplication-table
in which eiyht times nine woidd be sixty. The
vast advanta^rej of such a notation are manifest,
Soj I loy in reply to Dr. Brewer that, if we are
to JMkVe a refonu in spelling, we mast begin by
ing the alphabet. There are seven priraary
\ in our language, no one of which has a fixed
representative. The vowel-characters
ah have no settled meaning : the words
lirae are identical in pronunciation, and
I both 15 neither e nor w, but the urvocal
nd tt, as sounded by elementary gram-
marians, are diphthongs. It is a rernarkable proof
of the errors which ensue from this awkward
mrangement that Profe^ssor Sylvester {Laws of
Vene^ p. 50, n.) states that " in general a diphthong
cumoi be reversed as such ; i\ e. in the act of
reriBSa] it becomes a vowel sylkble,'* On the
contraLTy, it is impossible for a reversed diphthong
_to become a pure vowel. You might as well say
- the reversal of a tiompoaite number makes it
Tho diphthong in yard is the diphthong
'the diphthong in oysttr reversed that
thit pronouns tie and yon are diphthongal
reversed* A matbematioLan could never
mftde such a muddle if he had only been
hi^ -1.1 v,.^. ^^^ jjp Qjj^ ^^er is taught
that iis+'fitl rning.
In oonjioi «>.... ,. ,_ .i;ive redundance and deficiency,
iving k and #, of what possible use is the epicene
c? X ia hs. G and j woidd be both useful if they
were kept to their profjer functions ; if one were
always hard and the other always soft. But our
chief disgrace is that we have thrown away the
noble 0 of our great forefathers — have represented
ridiculously by ih thiit letter thorn which no
Frenchmn^n or German could ever yet pronounce.
I strongly protest against any reform of spelling
which does not restore the symbol of that softest
of consonantal sounds.
A reform in spelling is not half so much needed
as a reform in speaking. Orthoepy shoiUd precede
orthography. Our orators are becoming inarticulate ;
our poets would l>e in a sad ^n if they had to
read their comi>osition3 aloud to such an audience
!is listened to Horace. Imagine what it must
have been to hear Aristophanes act a pf^rt in on©
of his own plays, no professional actor being
courageous enough to undertake it ! Every syl-
lable of that musical Attic was fitted into its
place, and shone like a gem in the coronet of
Athene,
It is well that " K, & Q,'* should encourage new
ideas, and be tolerant to even the eccentricities of
literature. But I should just as soon believe, with
Mr. Ward, that Bacon contributed to Shakspeare
^* the beggarly elements of his plots and his material
philoaopmes" (whaiij Shakape&re's material philo-
sophy ?) as, with Dr. Brswsr, that aught can be
gained by writing jUvm^iii instead of ftorigt^ or
dame instead of dance, I should hail a complete
alphabetical reform (which would not interfere with
etymology, if etjmiology were taught orally) even
as I should hail a reform of our arithmetical
system by adoptiog twelve fts the radix. But,
though Dr. Brewir tells us " we are a learned
nation," we have not arrived at a point when either
of these reforms ia even conceivable.
Mortimer Colliks.
Enowl Bill, Berks.
General Fox and Charues James Fox (6**»
S. ii. 2Ul.) — Mr. Mayer has fikllenintoa singular
error in fancying that the late General Fox was
the son of the great statesman Charles James Fox^
inrjteiid of being the son of his nephew, the third Lord
HoUaod. This is not only a well-known and indis-
putable fact, but might have been gathered by Mr.
NIaver from the letter of 3rd Febmary, 1854,
But, in spite of this extraordinary blunder, the
letters are not without interest on their own ac-
count, particularly with regiird to the portraits of
eminent men which once adorned the Library at
Holland House, I am surprised, however, to fin<l
General Fox saying that his " father did not file
of Dropsy, but of Gout in the Stomachy" as this
altogether dejstroys the story, first told, I believe,
by ilr, Croker, in the Quarterly Revicit^j of tho
epitaph which he composed for his own monument :
— " Here Ilea Henry Vassall Fox, Lord Holland.^
&c,, who was drowned while sitting in his elbow
chair.^^ He speaks very vaguely^ iibo, when he
sap, ** Mr» Fox was at leAst 18 or 19, and his
Aunts 23 or 24, when the large picture of them by
Reynolds was pjiinted." One of the Lwliea was
his cousin, not his imnt ; and Jamea Watson's
grand me^^otint fi-om the painting bears the dat^
of 1762, when Fox w«s not more than thirteen.
The General was, no doubt, thinking of Fojc^s ap-
pearance in the picture, but his bushy eyebrows
a.nd manly expression made hiiu look much older
than he really was* Chttteldrooo.
Geneml Fox wfl« the eldest son of Lord Hol-
land, but born before his father married his
mother (then Lady Webster). I suspect that the
originals of the letters you have printed were
sijjfned " C. R. Fox,'' and not *' C. Fox/' as the
itenerai was in the habit of uniting the K with the
F in a monogram, which was not very perceptible
to those who did not know his initials.
Henry B. Wheatlet,
Charles James Fox had no children by his
nmrnage with Mrs, Armitatead. Rogora tells us,
however^ that he hiid a natural son who was deaf
and dumb. I am not aware of any record of what
became of this son. W, F, E ae.
lyCORBBCT noMPlLERS OF Ge\*81AL0OIES (5^ S.
iL 96.)— Mk Beavbn*8 remarks on this subject
are qnite true and justifiable. In Sir Bernard
Burke's Fcermjefi and Barondngts of tht Unikd
Kinffdovi there is a most unintelligible genealo«iy
given of the Fitss Geralds of Castle Ishin, co. Cork,
who are set down as the descendants :md repre-
sentative? of the Baronets of the same nam© seated
at Clenliah, in Limerick, until 1691, when Str
John Fitz Cleraldj Baronet, went abroad with
Jamefi IL These Clenlish baronets were lui
entirely diBferent branch of the Gemldine tree
from the Fitz (Jcrald (kni^'hts) of Cloyne, who
idso o\vned Castle Ishin, or (Castle Lissen, in 1612.
[In 1679, Maurice Fitz Edmund Gerald, younjjer
on of Sir Edmund Fitz Gerald, Knight of Cloyne,
I by Honora, daughter of Lord James Fitz Maurice
[(who brought the Spaniards to Ireland trjfip.
I Elizabeth), was owner of Castle Ishin. This
IHaurice Fitz Eilmund Gerald wiis not a knight
iMniself, He married Lady Honorn Mac Carthy,
land had a son Garrett, of Ciistle lahin, who, by
I the sister of O'Brien, Lord Clare, had a son James
kFitz Gerald, who was married and ownt^t of Castle
Plshin, cirai 1693. This pedigree, as far as it goes,
I I have traced and found to be correct by wills,
Ijiisitions, &c., at the Record Office, and old
npornry records in private collections. But,
my extreme surjjrise, I find in Sir Bernard
Burke's Barmitiatje this lineage transferred whole-
r«Ble to the Clenlish baronets and their repre-
flentatire by some eqtmlly mysterious process}
of transfer settled at Castle Ishin. Tht
branches of this ancient stock need no fftbria
or amplification of their geneidogie*. The (
knights were, to say the least
their Clenlish namesakes, who
title of Baronet. 1 do not s.» v r \
Baronet of Castle Ishin is not the
representative of Sir John Fitz G^ i,
Clenlisli, who went abroad with Jam- i I
or thiit his honours come under ih*^ hi jt
ful baronetcies"; but if he ifl ; i : i r, i
fectly cerUtin that Sir B. Burkt in - luis-st
pedigree Ln the most extraordinary way. Ssi
Edmund Fitz Gerald, Bart.» of Clenlish, m 164
was not the father of Maurice, of Castle
between that year and 16711, not even his fori_
fourth cousin. Sir John, the OlenliBh Barone^l
who went abroad with James IL, is said to h&n
been killed at Oudenarde in 1698. The on"
that I can account for his descendttnts
Castle Ishin, if, indeed, they do own it, is, t
branch of the Cloyne knights, who ce
own that place until 1092, mar
extinct in the eighteenth ecntun .
riisi the ex Ued and attainted baroriL;
managed to obtain the lands nnd to pass^j
penal tinif.s as members of the Castlr Tvliin ^
who had not forfeited in 1088. 1
unlikely ; and in any ease, the aii-
pedigree in Burke ought not to stand in print
sliall be extremely obliged if any of the accunitd|
genealogrsts who read **N. & tj." would kind^j
help to clear up this puxxle, which lias points \
interest for the historian as w«dl as the genealogist.
The fine tomb in Cloyne Cathcdr?d of Sir »lohti
Fitz Gendd, Knight, who dierl 1 * un^r
estates in 1611^ and who wm '
Maurice, of Castle Isldn, in Itj^.f. * ii
restored at the expense of the Mn t i l^
it ill J'^ 14.,^ J v_ Life*
Thx Arms of Sir Fraucis Duakh (4*** -^ tL
464, 514; xii. S5.)— Being anxious to f^?'
qtiestion of Sir Francis Drake'^ i\rm^ ^atlnf h
settled, I have followed the il
pages into the Herald and <
heard from experienced men tliat iliv
fmper printed in the Journal of Otc Eoi
ogiml Institute will be the fiitnre suiuiard ui
reference. Very few will now listen U* th»* in-
credible story told by Prince, when old n :
errors are being daily exploded* notv
Sir WdL Drake's special ^ '- :.
Cook's memorandum, i by Dr. H- B-
Dmke in the College <! -ntu.., records that Sir
Francis might, by pin^rogative of birth and right
descent, bettr the ^'^v^or" 'ulr-* nt . r r.r.A ^botie
the fipeciiU royal i>irdm
words, ^* a» I avi en .: . Amimf
I of Barnard Drake, Sc,^ and otken n^ th(a f^mih
6»&n.BBT.l»,74.I
NOTES AND QUERIES.
233
, and ]\ i!'
I deckratioD, recorded for the heniid^a
i^c«?. Sir Willifim eecms to foi^et that
PT
tl
of wonMp tmd good credit** What can be deoxer
or more posiiiTe i
Dr. Drake. Tiowtvpr, in his reply (aee HeraM
and Genealog ! fen into a imp bj diacussmg
Sir WiUiBin'i^ ion that the entry was one
prcpomd for inBtrtion in the royal gmnt, when on
the hrr nf it it wa^ nothing of the sort* but simply
nn
ofik
Tjietimes made for reniAdcahle
iceii were of BuflicicEDt mag-
' ' 's 1^ w coat w«A granted in ooni-
/f - i[ optional to discard or con-
I ' innga. He states that there is
t > r Francia using the wyvem in Sir
i I ' 0. Thien what is the meanbg of
i i< h he seeks to support I And lie
I ranciA deaiied to connect hiiiwelf
e of Afth : but we find that Richard
named his own son and heir Francis,
which goes to prove that the honour pointed the
other way. The improbabilities betray hiui into
contradict ions ; we desire nothing but the truth,
and not to nm from pillar to post for it. Sir
Williara has advanced only his own private opin-
ions, which appear prejudiced and without weight
in face of the facU published in the Arehm)U>gical
JoumaL The only fact he offers to our considera-
tion is that the wj^vem appears on the tomb of Sir
Bernard's father instead of the chevron and battle-
axe", the distinguishing coat of Ash ; but even
that does not say mach^ as the tomb may have
erected by 8ir»Bemjird, who, Dr- Drake
s, ** changed the coat of Ash," A« no men-
if t)u' tomb was made by Dr. Drake before
th^ ihiralogical Society at Exeter, has he
ov< ; I, or has he any explanation to offer?
Of Clin Sir William produce any grant showing
that the wy^*em belonged to the family of A^h and
to no other 1 ' Queby,
ll- r Calexdars <5*»> S. L 5, 58, 1 79, 257,
3fi^ iOBt convenient means of i-eferri ug to
the almimae of the current year is to have a
calendar in one^j pocket-book. It would ap];iear,
r, that the value of a mnemonic will depend
I OO lit a|)pliGabiUty to otfu^r years than the present,
'"" » 1 " of old date are never at
hile those of future years
.. .^lied ; it is here, therefore,
unemonic is a real desideratum.
of having a ready means of
ntj date within the present
lu the habit of adopting a
I would now recommend to your corre-
' -Letter plan ao long
«»*' cbrities of Dover haa
hfld, fur Uiiuij ;ij*«.ia, my full approval, I 8till think
ihal« fof {mmlical pttipoaos, a mors simple and a
l^j—^^
better mode of arriving at a date might be made
to coDBist^ (1) in fixing the week-day on whidi the
Ist January of the required year falls, has fellen,
or shall fall^ as the case may be ; and (2) in tinding,
by reference to a mnemonic, if necessary, the
number of the earliest day indicated by the iom^
week-day in each of the remaining eleven months.
The rest is obviously a matter of very simple cal-
culation.
The plan I would suggest, for any year in the
present century, is the following: —
(1) To the year, add its fourth part., omitting
fractions, and divide the aum by 7.* If the
remainder be 1, Monday is the 1st January ; if 2,
Tuesday ; 3, Wednesday ; 4, Thursday ; 5, Friday ;
fj < .tv,,.].,^ If there be no remainder, Sunday*
(i &tep in the performance depends on
tliL ... . .;...!, on whateverweek-day the 1st January
falls, the same week-day will be 5th February,
6Ui Miircb, 2nd April, 7th May, 4th June,
2nJ July, 6th Augustj 3rtl tSeptember, Ist Octo-
ber, 5th November, 3nl December, My mnemonic
for these numerical fixtures is as foUows : —
New Year'f Dny luxi October the /rVif being reokoned,
In July and in April that dsiy ^ill bfl second ^
8epteiiil>er the Ourd, untl Decemlter ;
Tlx© /otortA day of June {old King G(?orgo"B birthday),
Fi\ftA of Feb. and of March, and the gunpowder day,
Tlie tijcth day of Au^Bt, the sc9*ntk of Mav :
Tbsse are all that you have to retneiDQer !
Emvfvple. — What divj of the week was the
2(5th June, 1815?—
To the year 1815
add OQe-fourth 453
divide by 7
2268
St24*0 = Sunday.
Therefore, June 4, 11, 18, 25, were Sundays ; and
20 = Monday.
In applying this rule to a bissextile vear, it
should be recolleGbed that the *' remainder " re-
fr^ents only the months aftmr tJie inUrcat^ry day,
n mch years, January 1 and Febniary 5 will fall
one dav earlier in the week than the day indicated
by stioh remainder.
.fiicompk— On what week-day fell the 29th
January J 1796? —
To the year , 1796
bdd une-fourth U9
ploal 1
divide by 7
224a
320 * 6 == Saturday.
But, that year being bissextile, the first two
months are di^>lai3ed backwards by one day *
therefore, January 1, S, 15, 22, 29 = Friday.
Carl Dban.
Dublin.
* For any year in the eighteenth century* add to the
year iu fourth part pluM I, aad divide by 7t sa la tJiia
other case.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5«8.n,SRr.M,T«.
1
Meecctry Water (5*^ S. ii 9^ 74)— I am
imable to find this in any of the old phunaacopixnas
or chemical works ; but I eutertam no doubt that
it wa» either a spirituous or nuueous solution of
chloride of mercury (corrosive suclimate). I made
a saturated solution of it in spirits of wine» and
another in water, aided by chloride of ammonium
(sal ammoniac), and placed a small needle in eticK
The aqueous solution Imd corroded it entirely
away in less than two hours, and the spirituous
aolution did its work equally well, but toi»k more
than double the time. The name " water '■ is
somewhat of a misnomer, but the old chemists ap-
plied the term to numerous substances having any-
thing of the appearance of water, notably aqua
fort is and aqua regia. In old Acts of Parliiiment,
too, spirits are called " strong waters " ; whilst the
French have their eau do vie, and the Scotch have,
or had, their aqua vitie ; and conventionalism
seems to have perpetuated the name^ of eau de
Cologne and lavender water. But, after all, it is
not worse than the term " alcohol " as applied to
wine or grain spirit.
It h flimoiit needless to observe that H. A. St.
J, M, 15 entirely mistaken in supposing that
mercury itself nossesses any corrosive properties,
and he has onlv to try a simple experiment to
convince himself that it is quite msoluble in water.
Certifcinly it will amaJgamate with several metals —
gold, ftUver, lend, tin, &c., but iron ia not one of
mem* Indeed, it is exported and kept in iron
bottl€«> Medweig.
Corpses Entombed in Walls (5*^ S, ii, 185.)
— It is stninge that Mr. Tew could tranacribe the
passage whicn he has sent to " N< & Q." with the
above heading, without perceiving the odd mistake
which he has made. Bede speaks not of a coffin
in the middle of a wall, but of a wall in the middle
of a coffin.
Apn/pog of this kind of intramunvl interment,
the side walls of the exiension eastward of the
chaptar^house at KirkstalJ Abbey hiive built into
them a considerable number of coffins ; from
memory, I should say at least a do«en. Except
one, all have been broken into, and are therefore, of
course, now empty ; but I think they must once
have contained bodies. The chapter-house was,
amongst the Cistercians, the most honourable place
of burial. And it is probable that these coffins at
Kirkstall were originally placed under the floor,
but were disturbed when the place was altered,
and both economy and decency suggested building
them np In the new waUs nn the best way of dis-
posing of them. They are only in the side walls,
BO that they lie east and west. Each has its lid on,
and appears in the waU as two great ashlar stones.
J. T, Mjcei-etmwaite,
PuRT Family, Gloucestershire (5"* S. iL
249.}^If It should happen that Eudders EtsL of
Gloucestershire has not been searched, the following
members of the family of Puiy are mentioned there
under "Tainton**:—
ThoniM Piii7,=Bwb&r» Kyrle. of Wilford^
died 1693,
aged 7i.
Hereford, died l^^SS^ aged
65.
BftrbaTa,=ThomflJ
difd liugginB.
16&4.
Sorcdv, died
unm. 1709,
aged fii.
Elizabeths
■ Whit-
I tln^too,
Sluniiet, died 1724,
aged 42.
Ed. Marshall.
Mr. Disraeli's Expression of '* Fi-octs Ayi>
GIBES AND jeers" (5*^ S, 11. 168.)— Wa« Mr.
Disraeli thinking of some such line as —
*' . , . doai thoo jeer and flout me in Uie ieetli 1 **
Conudy of £rror$, IL ii, 22,
or —
** Scambling, out-fftcmg. faabion^monginK bajri.
That lie, and co^ and dout> deprare and aUnder,
Go antiquely/" kc.
Much Ad0 a5<M*( Nothing, x,l,H.
John Addis.
" Taking A Sight" fS**^ S. ii. 166.)— This pmctice
is, I suspect, a good deal older than ^^** ^'"'^ of
Rabelais. If my memory serves me ) is
a figure on the Nineveh obelisk in _ :Lah
Museum thus engaged. The exempia-ry Panum^
however, is described as etfecting what is calwd
"a double aight,^' while the Nincvite content*
himself with a single one, or«ask^JH«k^«^ (I llunk)
has it^ somewhere i|r\ ^LSt^^*^^^^
Lj^ "'He f^NiiSi no wor<rW mdic&t^a
i
no wora i# indic&t^a d<iubt,
Bu^puyiiii thumb unto hii nosei, and ■^•tohji his
^Dgerfl out."
H, A. Ki^'XEDT,
Waterloo Lodge, Reading,
Le Oomte's "Nouveaux M£moires de la
Chine" {b^ S. ii. 148.)— I hare not been able to
see a copy of the fiist edition of this book. I
believe it was published, in two volumes, in Pftrif^
in 1(>96, and that Bmnet is mistaken in saying it
appearetl " Amsterdam, 1693 ou 98, on 17<.U» 3 vol
in- 12." I can, however, give your ScHscRmsR i%
THE Faji East the exact title of the next edition :
*' Nonreaux Memo? res lur l*ctat iiri«ent de U ChiJWu
Par le R. P. Louis le Comte de la Cofopaipiie de J^sof^
Math6maiicten du Hoy. Eartoht de Figuret* StnTaui
la Copie de Paria. A Amsterdam, ie&7. (2 torn,* Ithneu)"
The "troisieme edition, corrig^e,^* was published,
also in Amsterdjim, in 1698 ; and, in 1701, na
edition, "in three Yolumes," appeared* Qu^ctnl
says : —
'' On a r^lmpnml & la tuiie de cea tn^moitiM dens
4:>QrrRgcB da P.Charles Le Gobien : le ^rr — \---~'''-*\\-
V ' Histoire de Vedit de Tcmpereur de la <
de la religion chrctienne/ qni arait par^ m
12, et le second intituI6 : ** ^:clairciK«emeuU ivx \m
honneurs que Ub ChinoiB rendent 4 Confudits ct ins
^
ff>&ILSBFS,I9,'74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
235
morii/* impr. en 16^. La rii^imprcanon de cen deux
oamgei formeot Ic tome troiiiirnie dei youpeaux
As to Englisli transktions^ a translation ap-
peared in London in 1697, with the title —
*' Memoirs and Obflervfttioiu) TopoiyriiphicaJ, Phyiical^
MathMUftticftl, Mechanical, Natural, CitLI, and Ecclenas-
IticAl. Mftde in a late Journey Tbrougb the Empire of
China, And Published in acverul Letterf. Particularly
upon the Chinese Pottery » . . [Itc. &c.] By Louis Le
CoTT - * ' ' ' • ^ • T to the Dutcbe*s of Burjfundy,
ontf I itictant, and lately Misaionary
into -<, Translated from the Faria
BditJot», ttud iiiuatruUd with Figures."
"A New Translation from the best Pam
Edition ■' waa published in London in 1737, and
republished the next year with a new title-jMge
aud two additional plates. Neither Watt nor
AlliboQe menlionfl Le Comte or his tmnslations.
ISPAJlKfJ iiSNDEBSOX WiLLlAMS*
fieosington Creicent, W.
I hare —
** Hi»tory of the Empire of China, being Observfttions
of aboTe Ten Years' TraTcla through tbut Country,— by
Lewii Le Comte, Jesuit, Confessor to the Dutches* of
Burgundy, &c, ^c. A new Translation. The Second
£dition. London : Printed far Jamea Uodj^ea, at the
Looking GUm on London Bridge, 17;j9. Price Six
Shillings."
It 15 an 8to. yolatxie of 536 pages.
■ Paddiugton.
" ** Mrjrioc" (5*^* S. iL 1480— This word may be
A diminutive of the Keltic min, mun {fuvvo^)^
smoU ; like manikin and monkty from nian. It
may, however, be a misprint ftjr mimick.
R. S. Chars ocK.
Minich*' in the passage quoted by F. H. is np-
parently a mLsprint for mimicked and \mih nothing
to do with minikin or Old Hii:b German.
William Aldis Wright.
Omhrtdgs.
KonKscLATURK or Vehiclks (5*^ S. ii, 148.) —
The ruitiie* Landau, Statdiope, Brougham, Tilbury,
Kiflcn:. Dennetj are derived from proper names.
The conich i^ siiid to have had it« name from
Cot 7-0, now Kitsee, prov. Weieelbui'g, Hungury.
It may however come from ci^um, which EiddJe
rendct^ ** u kind of light vehicle, a chaise" (men-
tiocptl by Cicero and Auaonius). The Britfika is
probably of Kussian or Polish origin. Qu. the
Poli*^h hrzky^ ' 'I See further " K & Q^;
tny IVrdwt J ; Mr, Aug* Goldsmith's
' ' H-u ,o'C, Antiq., 1873 ?) ; and per-
. and Koel et Carpentier (DicL dt4
E. S. Charnock.
r'a Inn.
, it h well known that a/y b a large
, on hire. It may be worth noting,
I
in connexion with tlie above qucr^% that, in
Guernsey, they have a ^tfiall carnage on hire,
which is always caUed a midijc. PosBibly, as a
friend of mine once insisted, a fly is so called
becatise it goes so slowly ; but if, as I believe, it
is from the insect of the name, it is obvious why a
small tiy should be called a midge, A Guernsey
midge ia like a large Bath chair, on four wheeb,
with a horse j it can only carry two persons, and
the driver has a box just hirge enough for him-
self in front. A midge doed go quickly. It Is the
common means of conveyance to evening parties in
Guernsey. J. F, S.
"Shot'' AS a Termination (5*^^ S. ii. 149,)— It
ia shown by the termination *'' hot," in such names
as Bagshot, Aiderahot, &c., that the districts bear*
ing names ending in that way were once covered,
or partially covered, with timber, the teraiination
being etiuivalent to the Anglo-Saxon ** holt "^ (Ger-
man hotz, a copse). The remaining syllable or
syUables in eacn name refer, of course, to some
special peculiarity distinctive of each pHtticuLw
district ; thus Bagi:hot tells us of a wood infested
with badgers, Aldersbot of a thick growth of alders.
A termination of somewhat similar sound occurs
in Bagshaw, and it has the same force, being de-
rived from the Anglo-Saxon acmga^ a wood or
shtuiy pkce. Care, however, must be taken not
to confuse " abaw " with ** hlaw," Anglo-Saxon, &
mound or rising ground, to which we are indebted
for the termination of HounsJow : and also to dis-
tinguish it from " haw," a derivative of the German
f}t)iaii\ signifying a pkce where the trees have
been hewn. C. FAtTLKK-WATLiNCt.
Shot, ns a termination, is from A.S. holi^ a grove.
Conf. Calshott, Hants ; Oakshott, Surrey.
R. S. Ckarkock.
Gray'i Inn.
Mr, Taylor, in hia Wtyrdi and Flatu^ p. 38(>,
says: —
" The bure heaths to the aouth-weit of London seem
to have b«cn at cmo lime covered with forest. This ii
indicated by the termination K*jU (German Ho{z\f which
we tind in the names of Dagah'jt, Oadahot, Ewshot, Lod-
8hot, liramshot, Aldershotj Alderaholt,"
A. L. MATiiKW,
Oxford,
Bekr and Wine (5"^ S. ii. 186,)— The two pro-
verbs on beer and wLne and beer and cider remind
me of the following French saying on wine and
milk ; —
"Viniur Lnit
Bien fait ;
Lait iur Vin,
Malsain/*
Henri GAtrssKRON.
Ayr Academy.
Sixteen QiTARTERtNos (5**» S. ii. ISO.^^Tb^
coats of arms wliicb ts^ iamu^ tsaxv.'^ \i^ «oSA<Nft:^ V»
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t5*aiL8aBT.l8t71
quarter huve bo connexion whattvcj with what is
termed the ttcizc qnar tiers, or sixteen quart era of
deganL When we hear of a (Jerman Graf^ with
his ** sixteen qnarterings/^ it simply means that he
is able to exJiibit a fjene^ilogical table showing
that his sixteen immediate ancestors, oijtcht in the
paternal and eij^ht in the maternal line, were all
nohk in the Continental senee of that word, i. f*,
were all entitled to bear arms.
It may, therefore, happen that a person may be
able to produce his tth^ ^plariur$^ and yet not be
entitled to a single arvKn-ial quartering ; while on
the other liand, although, as the Editor remark*,
the Duke of Northumberland ** is said to be*'
entitled to a shicdd of 8!>2 quarterings, it by no
means folloivf that the present posaeasor of that
dignity ia able to trace a true nisx quartiers,
H. S. G.
Isabel and Elizabeth (5^ S. ii 166, 215.)—
It appears to me that the entry on the Patent Roll,
8 Henry V., from which Hermentrude's quota-
tion is an extract, cuts both ways, to use a
homely expression ; for if it prove that in a.d.
1421) some person or persons unknown were of
opinion that the substitution of '* Isabella*' for
"Elizahetha*' in a patent was suthcient to render
the instrument inoperative, it also shows that some
other person unknown had substitute*! the former
name for the latter, either by miatuke or from a
belief that the two names were synonymous. It
would obviously be iineafc to assume that the sub-
stitution in question was of necessity due to error ;
and even if it could be shown that this was the
case, we should not, I think^ be warranted in
attributing to a similar cause all the earlier in-
Stances of like aubatitutions dlegcd on very high
ftuthority to exist in the Inquisitions Post Mortem
of Edward I. and Edwarrl 111. The two names might
very well have been employed tiynonymously in the
thirteenth and fourteenth centuries^ whUe in the
iifteenih the ilistinction which is now established
between them might luive been beginning to make
its way. But there is no test of a theory so satis-
fttctoiy as a numericid test ; and some such pro-
cess as the following, rough though it be, would
provide ^uch a test in the present instance.
Let Herme??trude take a sufficiently large
number of Inquii^itions Post Mortem of Edwiird I.
and Edward lIL,ttnd count the instances in which
any one Christian name is substituted, obviously
by clerical error-^ for any other, omitting sub^titu-
tions of Isabel or Elizabeth for Elizjtbeth or
Isabel respectively. Call the ratio of the numbtr
uf such instances of obviously erroneous gubstitn-
tion to the whole number of repetitions of Chris-
tian names in the documents examined the " Index
of Error." It will represent roughly the chance that
a meditcval scribe, tidcen at random in the reigns
of Edward I, and Edward JIL, would, in repeating
Christian names, wnte any one for Miv olksTf
omitting the suhMtitntions in question, Nm%^
her take a sufficiently large number of sintilar
docmnents of the same reigns, in which the
Isabel or Eliznbeth occurs, and count the *
in which the one name is suh^t\tni^A far i\u> ni^gr*
Call the ratio of the number « ^s of
substitution to the whole nuui
the names themselves " The Ici
It will represent roughly the ^
rem] scribe, taken at random in the r«jgn» a
named, would, in repeating either of the namcfl
Isabel or Elizabeth, substitute the one far the oth(
from whatever cause. Now it seems to t%w that ij
the theory which HER>rEN"TRUT f
be true, and the substitution •
for Elizabeth or Isabel respectivf ly Ma- awM^-^
to mistake, the former " index " ought to be
nearly equal to the latter. If, on in ^ • - *"^ com-
put.ation indicated, it shotild turn th#
latter " index " is larger than the I hink
we may safely adhere to the th< lonly
accepted on high authority, that t„
were, at legist in the reigns of Edward I. iukI
ward III,, believed to be synonyiuoue.
FitASK Scott Hatdox,
Merton, Surrey.
Ealph pb Cobham : Mart dk Roob (5"^ S. ;
208, 294, 397 ; ii. 30.)— ^Ir, La0Rext's noU <
this family (p. 30) is a most valuable one ; bat i
am sorry he should have * '
daughter (as I have n-
William de Ros, was an
William Ic Rus. I have
otherwise,and that, merely . ^ .^ ^.^
two brothers married wives, the nam < * i;-
ilc Ro6, the name of the other k i: . ue *!
my reasons are as follows : —
In Close RoU, 20 Edwanl XL, m. 7, it J* st ain.!— ^
^' The king has learned b}' Inquisition
wife of William de Braose deceiiPtMl Im
Yorki^hire of WiUunn dc lion of f
E&cheator is not to intermeddle w^i
Feet of Fines, 5(5 JUymj III., No, 73, is ttj
to be " Between Richard dc Ereotis & Aliise 1
wife and William de B. The former groat,
latter & Marj' his wife, the manor of Akeal
t4dl."
This manor, however, in Inqnisitioti on
de Braose, 19 Edward IL, No. 90, is gtu *
held of the heirs of Giles de Brewosa {\
?on of Richard and Alice), and alter ii»-r
the manor did descend to his heirs.
I was wrong in my supposition as to the da
of this Mary do Braose'a death, wbirh I thoug
might have taken place in 10 Flu u,! TI
I find it was 20 Edward II. (see '
of William de Ros, 5«> a i.
am on this subject, I should like to wnduiB
8*&II.8crr.l8,74>l
NOTES AND QUERIES.
237
I
with a quety* What pTouf is there of b Wil»
liam do Brao^e bivvina" married an Eleanor de
Bftvent, fts stated by nearly :ill geoeaJogistB that I
horc httd access (o; and, if .such a marriage did
tuke plju'p, wlmt proof iis th(?re that he Wii^ son of
WiT ' ! *' V dc R008, and brother
to ; ' i argil ret) de Brnose if 1
I <--\Y^niwj^ nifut him, and as to tbe
if eh Peter de BraoFe (stjited to be tije
iji), and hia wife Joan, became pos-
manor of Wistoneston, the property
of ti. ^> Is, it seems to have been a grant by
thfj king to Peter and Joan his wife for a fine ;
id the riiiinor liofoTe that appeara to haTe been
I : by Roger Bavent Fitz, during
'\ and not to have descended hy
d^;^' <d by Mr. Lower in the descent of
W;-- -tijc, Ardi, Coli, vol v. p, 5, who
ilioiitiit^ that WiUiiini de Braose died in 12&\
I tbould be Ye 17 glad to receiTe proof of thi».
At pratient I cannot fijid any mention of this
WiUiain, unleaa the /«*/. ;>, w., 35 Edward II L,
|K f, * ^ X, No. 10, on John de Mowbray, of
A3 i iii^etl, alludes to him :— Sussex, **He
lioiti rn »»;i^8iD^on 2 vlrgiiles of land which
WiUiam fU Br^cauM [held of liini]," If so, it
piOTsfl he did not die in 13(>(». Suppi>«ing him to
oe At stattdf it Ib curious thnt hiii biijther^ sli<>uld
aH die so verv long a time before him, — his eldest
hilf-brather, XVillinm, H> Edward IL ; his next
Sir GileSj 33 Edward L ; his own brother,
d, 24 Edward I.; and Peter, 5 Edward IL
there wrts a William born in this branch
Aware, from Coram Rege Roll Trinity, 10
IT,* m. 26, and that he was born between
JUMJ 14 Kdwnrd L, most probablv, but I think
be wttB dead before Edwnrd I1L*» reign.
Dudley Cart Elwes,
5, Tho CresJcnt, Bedford.
Tire Frrttch Word **YEt:x" (5»^ S. iL 101^
J4.) — It 15 extremely dis^b' "i^f ^lin r ulnn mho
' ( one'B meaning so thoroi i <\
Bile has been by Outis. j u
Mm and jonmal is so entirely and so obviously
4iflgfent from that between ocuhs (octilus i» a
int*) and i/n/j', that one wonders how the
of words can ever for a moment have
' ijen There arc, at least, two
n'tween (lieM imdjmimal (OurtB
in descent from duj?*'),
, and it is from the
Df :r rill, vii,, tUurimh, and not
rnal immediately comes; and
■' ' - •'- My, at least, four
ween ocidostkiid
i— 1 ; oculos id the
• IVm^h Dount ha?'* bf^fu furmed from the a£€tu<ttt*f,
id BU>t front t^ v.', of the cotreBiKinding Latin
Jif^ Br nm., 2nd edit, pp. 101, IC2,
immediate Latin progenitor of yeux, and the two
words have not one Bingl© letter in common.
OuTis must try again* F. Chance.
Sydenham Hill.
CnRisTiAN Names (4*^ S. isc., x., xi., xu, passim.)
— Hiiving recently had occasion to search the
regi.'iterB of the parish churchea in this town, I
availed myself of the opportunity to ** make a note
of-* curious Christian mimes as they crossed my
examination. I now pend them for publication,
just premising that I believe I have struck out
of my list all the names that, in connexion with
this eubjex^t, have hitherto appeared in ** N. & QJ*
S ion, D dautjftUr,
Addom«?nt s 1776 Oriiiell » 1784
Adrian s 1766 Heysa ... B 1790
Aloftus 9 17fil Iphngenift b 1773
Alrara s I7«0 Jcthro ... 8 175S
Amanda ,,. .,. i» 180f» Jnssowny , . s 1724
Andromecba ... D 174^9 Jaf^tinn. .. , i> U'JT
Anaeftia ... .. r l'^*^ ' K'. !nia3 _, _. p 1709
Afierm .„ ,„ ,., i> 17^ lone ... ... n 1763
Bellm , . p IT >. d 1799
Bernpna n 17;>^ ^inttiiittm ... ,., j> 18nf2
Boniflmiiio s 17Cf7 Monica. . ... .. D 1792
Biirdla.. n 17&3 Nirnrod.., s 1741
C)d&miui» .,. ...» 17155 Onetnmui 8 1729
CaeSRiidra ,,. ... n 1758 Paliuitme s 1798
Carlovin s 1807 Pater a 17S5
Clamado ' D 1765 Pfttriettit B 1759
Ckopatra r» 176» Phineaa... „. ... s 1783
Corbetb n 174.'i Salacia 1)1784
Cyiithia i« 1743 Sapphini ... ... U 182D
Doncy s 1783 Selfany B 1761
Ede t> 1765 Serena d 1761
Ednev D 1754 8«mu« ... 8 17S3
Edutt* U 1799 geitua .,. s 17»0
Emery b 1762 Twjy ... .., ,. d 1786
Enny ., n 1761 ThomMin ... ... n 1760
Eptbvcnia n 177« Triophtnc ... ... » 18*n3
EaaebiuB ... ... fl 1765 Tiyoe h 1778
Ejtupcrius 8 1790 ZndtM:k... ... .. 8 1793
GfuevoTa .. ,.. i> 1750 ZUpah .. x> 1775
Gleccc ,,. ... ... s 1758 ZipporaU n 1760
R D.
Nottingham.
Allow me to cull attention to two very un-
common names, the former esjiecially so, Aminda
juid Violetta, both occurring on tombgtonea in
Clrtverdoo churchyard, Warwickshire.
A. O. M. Jay.
L«D«dowae Terrace, L«aminKtoiD.
TiKTBKK Abbkt (5«* S. ii. 29^, 75, 96.)— A very
intr— ^-" - -* -*'T -^*-**" i^v..,. " 'f-Tnpanied
wii und in
Ri ,.^: .i. ....... ,,,,,. ;,.,:.:..,, ,./ :...^.v i.^,Mdn^ by
William and Mary Howitt, 2 vol*., 4to,, Loud.,
1862, published by A. W. Bennett.
Gaston de Berhetal.
Philadelphia.
Edwabd Maria Wikcfikld (5"* S, i, 488 ;
it. 73) wfts ii member of the firat cxmncit appointe^l
for the govenunent oC Vit^unax \i^ >}Qfc \j*ytA<3isi.
238
Company, in 1606. I hare a copy of Mivdame
P'Aubioy'a JJUioirc d'HypoHk^ ComU dt Dnglm^,
which Wtts evidently a school prize, though a very
odd sort of one. It bears iiiipressed on ita side, in
gilt letter:?, '^John ^Inna Forster. Pnr^mium.
1750/' The celebrated uctreas GeoTfjc Anne Bellamy
will be remembered aa rin instaDce of a raiiscn|^e
name applied to the other sex«
Gastok db Berkeval.
PhtladelphiA,
Father Kkhble (5«* S. iL 44, 92, 192.)'-I
have seen a grave slab with a cross on it in the
churchyard of Welsh Newton, inscribed —
**I- K.
hTSV THE 22***
OP AVOVST
Anso q 3 i>o
167&/*
The cross ia a plain Latin one, on three steps,
pierced lozenf^e wise, with a slight ornament in the
way of a scroll above it. The sbb has beea brolven
aerofiSf but united by two iron clamps. I found
two mysterious characters between the anno and
the DO. " N. & Q." cannot be expected to repro-
duce them, but they may be described as a Roman
P revereed, and an Italic li or Greek fJ, They
were choked up with mossj and the cler^'mau of
the pariah, who kindly pointed out th^ gnwc to
Die, tiad not, I think, noticed them, but I easily
cleared them out with the end of a pencil. This
was in 185L I do not remember to have heard of
the hand as being preserAeti, but I did hear that
John Kemljle and his sister, I^Irs. Siddons, hod
paid a visit to the grave of their relative.
W. J. Been HARD Smith.
Temple.
Archbishop Marqetsos- (5** S. ii, 2(>9.) — The
wife of this prelate was Anne Bennett, but of what
family I do not know, Gort,
Pbivt Council Judgment: Liddell r. Wes-
TERTON (5ti» S, iL 128, 157, 175, 211.)— Mn,
rMARSHALL's apology for the falaification of this
>' judgment in the Report published by Tait, Bro-
drick, and Freemantle, does not hold good, because
the falsified report simple and per se was first given
by Tait, &;c. It is true that Moore did relegate
the report of the judgment, as delivered, to a foot-
note, and though it is not given so properly as by
Bayford, still it is given, and attention is thereby
drawn to the error, while in the Tait volume the
leal or genuine judgment is not given. A falwified
Tersion ia there substituted in its stead. As to
rany jndge having authority to revise the judgment
after he had delivered it, such a course ja unwar-
rantable. In casea where a man htis had judgment
pronounced against him for murtier, and before his
\ xecutton has had hia innocence established, does
' the judge revise Ha sentence J I contend not.
The man on whom judgment has been passed
NOTES AND QUERIES, r5«»s,ii.g«rt:iff,%
receives "a free pardon," clearly showing thi|^|
tampering with a judgment after delivery i» im-^^
known to the theory of English law.
E. M. PicKBRnro.
196, Piccftdilly.
The Two Thtih-es (6** 8. iL 167, 200.y-'
name of the repentant robber is commonly «id
Ikj Biraaa, or Dismas. It is not i
Roman ^lartyrology, March 25, or
the " Commemoratio bancti I#atronia
obsen-'es in his note : —
'* Pi mam hio pleiiquc appellftnL Bod <|iioi|it«Bi lil €i '
tpocryphis proditur, €& de cft,im nio tun/ktu pTOpHom
cotiiulto pnctermiAsum videtur/*
The sourcea of apocryphal legend are aUo stated.
Ed. Marshaix*
For the literature on the aubject, flee
Dictionary of tht Bible. The fol*
nanips given ; — Penitent^ — Demn^ < a
Matha, Vicirans ; Impenitent— -Gi
Joca, Justinus, The name Disnii
ground, and ** St, Bismiis takes L
hagiology of the Syrian, the <>
Latin Churches.'* Of. also Jame^^' ■ ^,
Our Lard, London, 1864. A* L. Mathsw.
Oxford.
In TIu Apocryphal Kew TataTJunt (Londoi^
W. Hone, 1820) there are two Gospels called •
Infancy of Jesna Christ." In chapter eight j
first of these Gospels it is told liow Ju^ep'
Mary, with the infant Jesna, during theif^
from Eot>^ ^^^ among robbers, two of who
named xitus and Dumachus. Titus hod
sion on the travellers, and desired to allow I _
to go free ; but Dumachus, refusing to do »0, was
bribed by his coiupanion with forty groaU to con-
sent to their escape, the rest of the gang being
asleep : —
*' 6, Then the Lord Jesaf aniwcred, and iaJd to
mother. When tUtrty yean are expired, U molher^ C
JeWR will crucify mc at Jerusalem ;
'< 7. And the*o two thieTes ihall be with mt at 1
Bamo time upon the cross, Titu« on my right I
Dumftchua oo my left, and from thfi.t iimfl Titus shall |
before me iato Paradiio.'*
Longfellow has introduced this incident in
Goldm Legend. H. A. KenkkoT,
W&terloo Lodge, Ecadins.
Rahel (5«* S. L 388 ; H. 133, 198.)— Kkomaotj*
says, ** in the * Breeches Bible,' that ia the Bible of
i5f»4." My edition is that of 1599. and tin-
doubtedly ** Breeches," imd therein '■•
reading ** Rahel" The 15th verse ol i
xxxi. runs thus in the edition I have beiitn? i
** Thus raith the Lord, A Toyce woa heard
mourning ernd bitter weeping— T^oA*! weeping j
children, refused to be comforted for her
because they were not*'
It ia as well, while on the Bubject, to
I
9>Kn.S»T.t».7«.l
NOTES AND QUERIES. ^PP
239
I
8t. ^fatt, cIl ii, verse 18, and not« the difference
ill the reading as set out in the ** Breeches Bible" '
of \bm to tWt of the text now in use. The
fmAsage in the older edition runs thus : — -
■• In lihama waa a Toycc heaird, mourning, and we«p-
ingt •^nd howling ; Rachel wiping for her children, and
wtmld not be comforted because they vHn not/'
It will be noticed that while in both passages in
the o\i\i*r CHJition the hist word but one in the verse
i« " were,'* in the modem text the Old Testament
has "loffr^" and the New Testament **are.^* I
fajiTe not hud time yet to ascertain when this
altcfution took ptnce.
C«n NEOMAQta tell me how many editions of
the *' Breeches " Bible were issued ? that of l&9i]
in my poaacssion is pictohaL Hic et ubiqcte.
The Blissbd Tbtstlk (5"^ S* ii* 48, D5, 196.)
— The plnnt to which this wide-spread legend
attaches is neither Carduua heatuji nor C. hnc-
dkiu$f >>ut another species, C* Marianns.
James Britten.
Robertson Family {5^B, iL 127, 211,)— There
were many ramifications of the family tree ; but
who hi now the Lineal reprenentative and bead of the
dan Dunachie I Information on this point would
no doubt be acceptable to many rexiders of
" N. & y.-* Celto-Scotus.
Keniingtoo*
MoTfKY the Sinews or War (4*^ S. xi. 324,
M^y 472 ; xii. 18.) — " Coin is the sinews of war "
Babelais, Bk. I. c cxlvii., where it is
iXitet as a proverb or a quotation, for it is
E. L. BLENKrNsorr.
tock ** perhfips from the British *gwaum,* a moun-
tain meadow, and * tacawg/ a tenant in viDemige,
— ^ the mountain meadow of the tenants in rillen-
age/'' Althongb the name exists as a suraame, Mr,
Bardsley giTea no instance of it. As to its mean-
ing, we Jiccept the one given by Mr. Nichohj. He
is probably right, too, in believing that the Belgic
Britons held this wild district before the Roman
period. We enjoy, with the author for guide, a
splendid panoramic view from Wikneek, the
loftiest point of Quantock. One distinction of the
range, he tells us, is, ** it is the last home in Great
Britain of the wild red deer,''— but, for Great
Britain^ we should read ** England." More in-
t<?resting is it to know that to this home of beauty
once came, and long tarried here, Wordsworth,
who could speak on everything save phvaios and
politics ; and Coleridge, who oould speak on both
subjects and everything else besides. What is
better still, both have dwelt upon the Quantocka
in their poetry ; and some of that poetry was bom
of Qujmtock influences. This part of the subject
is admirably treated by Mr. Nichols, and ho ivill
send many a reader, perhaps to the Quantock
district, certainly to the poets with whose great
names that of the place is so closely associated.
The Appendix is as valuable and as interesting as
the boolc itself, and the whole forms a Yolnme
which will be welcome to all readers with refined
tastes and appetite for useful information.
^fiicrnanfautf*
NOTES OX BOOKS. &c. ^
f%M Quantoda and their Atsociaiions, A Paper
read before the Members of the Bath Literary
' ' By the Rev. W. L. Nichols, M.A,
1 ;te<l for Private Circulation.)
Twj; icverend author of this interesting volume, —
for the after-dinner paper of the Bath Literary
CI ■ ' led to a pretty and a prettily-
fl.1 1 — hits the mark exactly when he
- ^^hire mountain range that
0 of Quantock scenery is
^fr, Nichols's description of
;i.>nda with his own desig-
nr.Tlimt/ t.\n In? more piC-
tni f the lovely
**< . ^ . : i^emlly do, at
ijes to the sea-shore, break the outline of
iinliun range into - Heads ' . . . and these
cf. Been from the Brijstol Channel, gave
dayi of yorB to the Keltic name of the
t^oaciciclcB, «.€», the water headlands.^^ It is here
|0 bt obMonred that Mr. Edmunds derives Quan-
CawtrigM Scimttfiqwt, DicouverUM et Invtnticnt, PrO'
ijvii dt la Science et de VInduiiTh* TrtisiJm^ AnnM*
Par Henri de ParrJlle. iParit, Rothicbild)
YouKO (y&ople used to rcaa Joyce's ScUniUlc Dialoguu
with an idea that they were furaiahed with science for
life, Joyce now it not more up to the present nark
than a laet-ceutury almanac la to the present year*
M. de Parville*B book is one of those which shows the
periodical progress of science in every direction. One
of the most mtcreating chuptera is that which describes
the tmiltray by which the Righi is now ascended and
descended. It will disgust the Alpine Club to hear that
French engineers are projecting exoursion- trains to the
Mer de Glace, and " return tickets " for the summit of
Mont Blanc and back by rail are among the things that
remain to be accompliahed.
PetUi RtvuM deM Bihliopkilu Daupkinouj ou, Cotrt-
tpondance €iUre Umt Um Afaoteari tkmplvmoiM q%i oai
ijtui*fit4 Quciiiofi d poMwr, ^udq%€ ReponM a fairer ok
qydqwt Trouvadh ou CurUmU' a tianaler. MHaHfftB
MiiUiriquet *t Litterairu. (Grenoble, AHier.)
Thb greater and the most interesting portion of the last
number of this publication is devoted to dociiio6Dt»
which show the condition of the French Hugueooti ia
Grenoble in the last qimrter of the last century. Tliere
ts aleo ft list of the names of Hu^ruetiota dwelllnR in that
city, with such remarks against their names as <* Mediant
Huguenot," kc, and recommendations that some money
should be given them, and they should be driven out of
the place. Several of the ladies are described as " pro-
cureuse.'^ meaning wife of a ^'procureur/' or lawyer.
One lady is entered tis •* Lr Dam"* Gondrau^ ifiiv*.x«. ^
Tavocat de ce nom," and %b& \a tax^Sb^vc ^jKax^QaaNft^ v^
240
NOTES AND QUERIKS.
[5*aiL8«fitl»,74,
Tax NxxEi 07 TBS CD4BifXL teAXML^A correfpon-
dent Bettdft the foHawing lioUdiij ideitg on tlie uhore
subject : — ** Being recently on u tour in tLo Cbftunel
Jslanda, I found the people deme tbe namei thti«;
Jervey from Ctr'tiTea; Guernsey, GrAm-t-iie ; and AlJer-
nej from ^-1 i«.W^A^. I suiEgeBt ih** denvation us folloivs :
the early colooifita would naturally oome out from St,
OerxQitms, vrhich la about thirty miJefl, or 'a day's
journey ' from the mainhotd. They would, on arriTUig,
Miy 'jour-d,' that is tia jour in (one day> journey) »
Jersey. They would go on anothor thirty tiiileii, and
find another big inland ; and re^^arding ifi as another
daily mileatone uoin home, thr-y wouM si*y 'jour^t -un-
ci * (two day's journey), Guernsey. The laat big inland
of the group would, of course, be called ' Le dernier,*
*Al dernier,' Alderney. Wiotber the difficulty of
landing at Sark, end the still great- r ' =*^ ' ^ , ,f getting
away fWm it aipiiii owing to the ciu li> its dig-
coTcrerv abjure it with the exclauju I aui not
iioitc sure; but this is certain* Jcrda^' t\jlk who try to
aay mere InTariably say ' sark ' to thiti day; As to the
nomenclature of Jethou, Brechou, and Hcrm, I can offer
no suggestion.'*
M. GuTZOT, who died on Saturday eveoing, the 12th
inst., at his residence, Val liidier. Xormand?. at the
age of eighby-eeven, waa buried on Tuesday, 'thu Dean
of Westrainster ana Lady Augusta Stanley were among
the mouruers who fallowed him to the grare. Such
mourners were numerous ; but the Orleans princes and
M. Thiers were not among them. A little more than
eighty years before, M, Guitot's father^ n Protestant
lawyor/waa guillotined, and the sou ne?er seemed fairly
to hare gptaway from tho shadow of that great calamity.
it ^Te him that air and expression of dignified sorrow
which cftused Mdlle. Rachel to exclaim, after hearing
one of M. Guistofs parliamentary ipeechcs, ** I ihould
like to have that man net with me in tragedy ( "' He lias
won for hima«lf a great nam*: in literature. As a statea-
man, hia inflexibility of principle often barred tbe way
to healthy political nurpoae, lie let a royal fabric fall
rather than it ehoulu be repaired by hands which seemed
to him not duly apprenticed to the work. An impartial
history of M. Guijcot's political administration would
hare its deep and gloomy shadows as well a^ it« bursts of
sunlight t but he will, nevertheless, remain one of the
Great Men of France.
The PrIBCE JuiK-AKTOJXB-LASOARlS-AlfaE-FLAVE-
CoKKKNE-PALloUKiUH died near Turin, J^^Hept, 2, a^d fifty*
eight. The Prince is described aa the lai»t male dcscien>-
daut of tbe Grasco-Koman Emperors of Constantinople.
As heir of Oonatantine the Great, be claimed tho
•* patronage" of various palaces aud churches in Home,
wnich were founded by Constantine. This last of a noble
race was Grand Master of the " Angelic C'onstantininn
Eqoeif Irian Order of St. George," perhaps, says the
Ji^Hi^ "the oldest order known. "
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Farticnilam of Prie«, Aa., of every l<<?ok tu htt fcnt dirtot U> the
tH^pon by wh9m It li reKtvfroi. wboM awn* «<id addn» am Etvoa
far tl»t purpo*©*—
E« 1 rii r 1 .4 1 K m D nrnm t . Bti&Mti.
tMiTii's 1M.-Itfiri*ry of Uie Diblfc 4 Vol*.
i' > jlo-Haxon DlcUonary, (LtmgnuDft.)
< L1B&. Fftlrholt. (LA«t Kdiilon.!
IJiaiAK l>OJiuTrc EcojiuHT. (ilcudeDl.
Wa&Ud b; JL liutk, n, Aihltj Haas. &W.
jttlt."
Succeeded In 111
OUK CoRRcsF 7, v€ tmM, txewm
That thr
one side ot
aNcf words uiiii ^unir-v^F ^ mit^i.iui .-^t
requtrtd. Wt cannot unden '.( cui ithmi a (
rupofidetU doe* ntfi think n ^rovMe nf i
B. T. 8.— Pope's line i«—
** One truth b clcttr; whmte¥«r is, i« nghu*
Bp* L. L 5
In Ep. liL, 1. 30i, occurs the line —
** Whate er is best administered is best"
In Dryden'a (Edipus^ Act iil., sc, 1, you witi find ih
line : —
** Whatever is, is in its «
G. G.— In the lift of tbo '' ^
Nicolas's IJUtvHc Ptermj*
prolatea are reguf te red : • * 1 1 ,
in Normandy, Consecrated Uv*
Ascelin, a Monk, Prior of Dorer.
ob. Jan. 2, 1147 3."
Erkji writes :— '* I bnve to nsk pardon for an xm^ |
pardonable piece of carelessness in a mis trauacripti
(5*'* 8. ii., p. 204 ; the second column). For —
* Or those in commission not yet returned 1*
read —
'Or not those in commission yet returned! ***
W. H.— Many of the brareft soldiers who fbu^t x
Elliot, at Gibrsltar, had been London tailors. Th* f»<*»1
ii alluded to in the once- famous Ttaytd^ /or froi
Weather ;—
** A brahamida. His mien is noble and bespeaks lh« lalloi^|
Not of the dunghtll and degenerate race.
Bat such as the bravo Elliot led to battle."
"DfitJMCLOG *' f.V'' i^. ii. It57.)— LiECT.'CoL FLurjc
writes;— ** If T. W. C, should not h:*
prucuring thisi psalm tune, T »hall be
copy of tbe simple air, but r ' ' ■ .ui-thn cB
by which the * Daughter of ! to have adapl
the flimiile tuno to all kind.*! ' iiicct/
Bi'J KT UniQUK will find a good ace4>unt gf tbe nUag#J
of Horacll, or Uorshil ^from tbe Saxon Hortft),
Black's (Jmdf to (As NtAtori/, Aniiquiti^Mf u»Mf
graphy of the Cmtnt^ of ,Siirrtift p. 62SI.
OutsbT: ' IlKAn (f/" S •= ""^^ ' ^ -
al6ol*'S. V 1 ; ix. 496;
T- E. T. informs J, A. tiiat he v
Byland Abbey, Yorkshire, in //.
the Heir. W, j^aitmcad. Peat. Thiras, i--^ ,
• * ♦.—The Oxford Bible, 1717, in the bead-Knt ow
Luke xaii^, had the word ** vinegar" lor "vmaysnl"
Thence, ** Vinegar Bible."
K. (liangwathby.)— We ore always glad to hetf ifoo
you.
^1 be addrevscd to " Tbe
iness Letter? to ** The
I imgtou girael^ Stzviil^
yOTIOE,
I?di tonal Communion
Editor "— AdTertitemc
Publisher"— at the On
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raimications which, for any reason, we do notprt&t :
to thie rule we can make no exception.
To allcommunicatione should be afllred tit* siai sftA
address of the sender, not neoesa^ily i^ pllblifliliiai|lsti
as a guamntee of good faith.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
241
i/Ur/XUr. SAT CRD A l\ S'SFTEMSmt iU S94.
^^^ CONTEICTa — N* $'X
^^^^Kffinir Tutor of th« Olden Time, J4'J-^li«i1dAn &d<1 Sir
^■Mb SookUng. SU^Hoir OM vii%% Mndcrfn 7 24 r* ^ Mies
^r BlAon -^ giptiagmwriMiiwB — '* CcHriih Mj«i<Mty *' — Tta«
■ Belva FftttUr-^Old JtaS^ to Mend, or Tulle uut Tatters,
^UBETEB :— rkM lUllAd — Boh an am] Boiroe FAmllSvii— ^leortrti
W«lkw %n^ John Miebelboume, 147— Modem Latin &Dd
Gunk V««»— •* Fyemarteii " ; ** Viisin "— KoiHuiitiiiff— 1«
aX3^m«» of OuiAtiu KftBM Po«ibl«;^" What Is & Potiad ir ^
Wcbtnl ytlm***-^^ '^''' T>>»*i»t Back— The Corwid Sword
— "Bknr^ Blbk upon tlw Sta««, S4S-" Attn-
dov "—*' dmv ! I «H bf W, T. — " Klbc^ton " or
** fitlbdtOO '^'-A ue^Grifflohoofo— Tl)« Rev. T.
IsOlsai ]lARtN|« or B^^iothal Oulon, SMA,
BSLIBi ;— 'HaXlt Wydi. aad Salt UToHcb, 24i><-" !%« Arch.^ifo^
Mfltf BpMlt to D«Aii Millet,'* 251 -- Bihlioin^phT of
"ujilM — Wattwf » ** Pronouooing Dicllon*ry," 252 — A
Onatf^lMaiflltfr of Kdw&rd III.— Field Lore : Oarr, Arc, 2f#3
—JBe*li»OU^r^'*St«iBg without percMiTlnif "— Wj-Att and
Woodr— ^coicoiiig, KloR of ricnin&rk~Biihop Ricbjurd I'&vii
^**Dil^<l<ir of the f-**' MTrha«l Baoifii — BanweU
Gmirt, fSotatanei ( Aim^ <t.Tt iht King, " 254^Sir
Gecwd UII1«t*— M*dftTi i >« Clere and D« Broofo
< jiiLjiwii —' EendM-ToM"—" Tooth
n SitfUt/' i'^.'i— Boni»n Ootn — Mr.
«>l*i Claymon*— *' TuTwm " — ** Morto
i-:roiDWuU *Dd the C4itkedLnl«," 2Sd—
-Kof lUh Snniimcs— *'Tb« rtloiy of thpir Timea "—
tlu So^tj or Arts' MemoiUl TliUeti— The Gttl» of tha
OArtsdh, S&7— Old Bngrmvingi— Lonl Ch«thAin Mid BalleT^i
**IllelicmafT*-."Toira'i HiD" — *'The Night Crow":
imicfK -> Nmhuw tli« Leper, 2fiS — Saffolk Charters '-
' I OldCaecio&l Anecdote, *2f»9.
r
Xola on Boobi, &«,
■Itiia, 1
MICHAELMAS.
at. MICHAEL AND ST, OKOROE,
* SL George for £ii|jUuid ! " No doubt, it was
_• Bfttianjil cn%
**Su Michiiel for London!" Quito ns certain,
if nn* t}it? i?iy of the Cttj% was the City seoti-
iiicii^ City gjwe it practical iipplication.
V tc> he mcaaiiped by ** DedictitioiL*'
1 1*?, St. Gteori^e wus little thouj^ht
Kired with St, Mich u el. As a
ill for the archan^'el, and
; the beatified warrior.
h of St George in South-
ithout), (where Bonner,
"re bniied, and where
with the one little
•-mr.iti^ ilftdicated to
d to him
ys,— in the
the Great Fire the
•4 jcBTs, were weU
h|>oil," 8m writes of the church
1 ne, JnliT! Stowe. who wan bom in
in 1525. The
II .. . r died in 1606,
■^^Ui adHrii to the sleepera in
^^H^i '.' Lord M&yar, FoEuuui,
James Muniford, T.^n >-iirrr^n t^ King Henry
YIII., and other en /ens.
One church in tl; ' . ?L Oeurge, Tbef^
were ei>fht to St. Michael f < was that
of SL Michael, Aldgate. Ol r Ounning-
hani saya : *^ Close to the Paiup, uud beaefttb t£o
pnvement of the tttreet, ia a curious chapel or
crypt, part, it is said, of the diurch of St. Midiad,
Ald^'Ate/' Second,— SL Michael, Basinghdl, or
*'.*it Bassing's Hall," or '* Bassin^'^'s Haugh," or
" Biissiflhaw/' names which keep up the memory
of the tViTnily who had their " Hall " close by. Some
of them were borons of the realm, and &eejned too
numerous »nd mi^dity to condescend to die (mt.
Third, — SL Miehaer?*, Cornhill, outside which, in
Edward ILL'S tiiae, city matrons, attendeti by
mm d -servant*, basket on arm, crowded to buy their
poultry of ponlterera who were free of the City,
but were not sho|>kee|^»ere. Non-freemen, vending
rabbits and poultry, stood at ** the Carfukes of the
Ledenhalle.*^ This waa the "Carfax,^' Mr, H, T.
Kiley (Msnstoriob of Lonrf'm Life in the Xlllih^
XI FfA, and X Fth Ccntv tures tiial there
was pmbably a four-fu . n here, on the
spot where Gracechurch Suvct and Letidenhall
Street meet. *' Let those/' siiys an Ordinance of
the year 1357, quoted by Mr. RUey^ " who wish
to carry out their poultry to sell, stand and expose
the same for sale along the wall towards the We^t
of the ( 'hiuH^h of St. ^lichael on ComhiU ; nnd let
them be foimd nowhere clse^ either going or stand-
ing, with their poultry for sale, on pain of for-
fehnr.. .,r mII <nrh >J.nlfrv'» To SL Miclmers
wnl' niBci^ive^ and their
mu:' ; tlnan nnu]ii V ; and
n ^^ Michaelmas G • con>
ncxion with the h sold.
There was a John Uxt»niord id the p;vrii^h at that
time who left a house to his iriend Adam Fraunoeys ;
aJso some money, wherewith Adam was to hive
masses said for the f^ood of John Oxenford's soul
The money would not purdiase mjtny, and poor
Adam bitterly complained to the authorities thiit,
althoufijh chiipliins were forbidden by law to trJce
more than five marks for celebratiti;: ma'w for the
sold of any person, he oould not ;j * - ' -- ' n,
at St. IVlicJuiers, or elsewhere, for :
t^ (,,j..i.r- ,T,. i\,^ tjiQ ^^yy^l Qf John * ^ V. ,,.'... ^-id
yet Oxenford had bequeathed money
for ' ...^ - .1 of divers churches that Iiav.- 1m. n
levelled to the ground by the temJx^
How it would have fared with John
soul, it is ^ hard to say^ had not the V i
Mary's Hospital undrrtnl<f^n, for " lo [^ -
ling « , , , to find 1 1 !i?3 to celebr»ttj lur the
soul of John Ox» snld fV>r f^ne Trh^^lc
year" Fabyan, tht ^
church, with the father .
Philip Nye, the curate *' wulx the thaiLkv -^. vt^*^
beard," lies in the ^gevusniu 6(i^t^ ^^3fie^— ^
242
NOTES AND QUERIES.
St. Michnel's, Crooked Lane, An old edifice
(tlie second churcli) perished, like so many othere,
in the Fire, and "Wren's church (the third) waa
swept away when the roiid to New London Bridge
was about to be miide. Sir WilliEm Walworth
was buried in the ancient edifice. He had trouble-
some neighbours in the p^irisk One Alice Godrich
(1379) accuijed him aloud in the street as a cheat
and embezzler, for which be indicted her as a warn-
ing to " such scolds and she liars,*^ Alice was con-
demned to imprisonment^ the ** thews," or pillory,
and 40L fine ; but Walworth went " begging and
entreating^ the Mayor and Aldermen/^ and thereon
she was (Slowed to go free of all pain and penalty,
upon ber good behaviour. The whole stoiy of
Walworth, a-* told by Stowe, illustrates the
chronicler's honesty and truthful nesa. Of the
social life of this parish^ various examples will be
found in Mr. Riley's excellent book, to which
reference has ali-eady been made. Tlie principal
persons buried in the churchyard were ** stock-
fishmonKcrs,'' One of these, John Lopkin, four
times Mayor, built the handsome second church,
which took the place of the first homely budd-
ing ; and Sir William Walworth, Mayor, was
some time servant to the said John Lopkin.
Fifth,— St, MichaePs Patemoeter Eoyal wii^s the
church in which Wbittington waji as often buried
aahe had been Mayor. The parson, in Edward VL^s
time, deapoiled the grave in search of treasure,
disturbed the body^ carried off its leaden sheet,
and then reburied the corpse. In Mar/a time the
parifibionera were compelled to find fresh lead, and
rebury the renowned Richard as he was aforetime.
Whittington^a noble grant of land for the rebuild-
ing of St. MichaerB, Crooked Lane, is one of the
most interesting documents in Mr, Riley's voluuie.
Sixth, — St. Michael's, Queenhitho ; "a convenient
church," says Stowe, **but all the monuments
therein are defaced/* Cunningham says of the
church built by Wren, " the vane, in the form of a
ship, is capable of containing a bubhel of grain,"
the great article of traffic still at Queenliitbe,
Seventh,— the Com Briar ket, in the Ward of
Farringdon, gave to St. Michael's Church there
the additional name^ of "the Querne," **ad
Bladum,'' and " the Come." Anciently there was
a right of foot-way across one portion of this
chiu-cb. In 1378, the incumbent and wardens
waUed up the doors of ingress and egress, but the
public cried out acainst old rights being thus
dealt with, and the law sided with the i>eoplei and
forced the " parson ** to demolish the wall and pay
the costs I This was one of the churches not
rebuilt atler the Fire, Eighth,— St. Michael's,
Wood Street, ioas rebuilt, by Wren. The old
church once possessed the head of James IV. of
Scotland, The body of this king was brought
from Flodden and buried at Sheen. When that
church property feU to Grey, Puke of Sulfolk, the
royal corpse, tightly bpped in lead, ^
among useless lumber, where it was got hold ^fbf
some workmen, who cut oflf the head. On© Yc
glazier to Queen Elizabeth, took the
him to his house in Wood Street, and, ^
was tired of keeping it, he gave it to the sei
SL MichaerSjwho duly bu ied it among commo
bones.
The above are but a few out of numerous iUa
trations of the history of the old chureiies dedic
to St. Michael in the City of London. St, QtoT\
turn did not come till the Geoigiaii erai
mencing with the accession of the House of
Hanover. St, George the INlartyr, Queea
Blooumhur}% was indeed named in hou
neither the saint nor the king, but in comil
to Sir George Btreynsham^ once Goremor of Foi
St. George, India, St, George s, Hanover Sqn
buUt about 171J>, was a compliment to
mo march and warrior, Stv George's in the
(1727) hououred George 11. as well as the fiftia
St. George's, Bloomsbury, consecrated 1731,
loyal, and so royal in its purpose f' ' uild
clapt not the saint's but the kin. a
top of the steeple. Before this t i
uot a common Christian name. It li 1 \ a|
by " M.alniscy Clarence," and there wcxc aj
the same name among the Berkeleys ; but 7
was never a more popular baptisiu.d
George, George and Georgina wen
meat to commonphice kings. Tht i
tional disrespect to the saint. People knew no
of Gibbon's theory that George of Cappadocia ^
contractor of bacon for the army, and m "^
honest tbau such contnictors usiuallyarc. Th«
fts little of Mr, Baring-Gould's idea, that St (
tlie Dmgon, und the Virgin meant the
piercing the storm-cloud and rcsi
When the good WhigglsJi people oJ
the possible, and later the actual, :\
George, the churches began to be >
saint of the same name. The JaL'>..n.rr-» n'jwey^t '
bad their Chevalier St. George, and saw in him a
king.
Still, it will be said, "St. George for Eng
was ever the war-cry in battle and in ' ,
Well, when Edward IIL gained the fatnooA ]
battle at Sluys on Midsummer Day, 13>1U, I
brated the event by issuing the new coin c*llrf
the " Angol,"and the figiu-e impressed thereon iwi
that of the Archangel St, Michael. Ea
A TRAVELLING TUTOR OF THE OLDEN
TIME.
Richard Lassels was of a gCM>d family, and
in 1603, at Breckenhorough, a small place betuMi*
Thirsk and Northallerton, in York«ldtis. Afte
studying at Oacford he removed to Douid, i "
he pursued his studies in the English Bon
fl«&II.Es»t.26,7<.l
NOTES AND QUERIES.
243
Catholic Coileire, and at length beainie a secular
|itieit. Laiisek enjoyed in ii high degfreo the
OOitfideDce of thi» principal Konmn Catholics in
I Great Bs f ,. wishod him to become Pre-
Itident of o jifc Doujii, and their a^^ent at
ll^me. li i> iv( u m\\d that he was oHered a
Q^iahopric ; hut, ns Anthony h Wood informs us^
^lf>,vi- ,^,.^^ delight in Feeing foreign countries,
I i\B tutor to .several of the English
, . ..^ J^ntry, whereby obtaining great
rlcdge of places, men, maitners and cuatoma,
r%iis esteemed the best and surest guide and
or for young men of his time,"
Lasneb died at Montjiellier in September, 166S,
Iftbout 05 years of age, and woa buried in the
JChnrch of the Barefooted Carmelites by the care
icf Ralph Sheldon, of Beoly, a friend of Anthony k
I Wood. Of the gfime family was Cornet Henry
rldkt^- ' I Charles II. to escape after the
Imli
The iH' IV i,,,ni which the following extmcta are
made i« eridentlr the source from which many h\ter
'tte' " ^ ' ? y liave drawn some of the mformation
With the view of showing the state
.^... .. language about 1C50, 1 have adhered
uUy to the spelling in the original. The title
I tbu« : —
" Th« ^oy»gc of Italy by Richmrd Luiels, Gent, who
»t«l)ed thrnuffh Italy PIto Timci, m Tutor to several
l«rftlit Kn^li?h KobiUty and Gentry, Printed at Paris,
U«70. Sparta 8^•*
Thii4 book» which is now very scarce, wa.«i pub-
f 1i«bM nfter the death of Lassels, from the manu-
left by his will to his pupil, Lord Liimley,
' f Wrtterford, and prewired for the press
IV ^, \> il-iou, who 8\iccceded Lassels as tutor to
that nohU iri:»n. It contains remarka which give a
" 'Tjsl^iht into the manners of the different
he viflited in the middle of the seven-
.-..,... ■ uitury.
La^«.*^h paied so much of his life on the Con-
tin, m nf Hiirone that he apologires for hia English
J., " Three long voyages into Flanders, mx
' e. five into Italy, one into Germany and
made me live half of my time in
itys, to the disturbance of my own
After two slaps given in passing to two rivals
—Mr. Wnrcup, who "writes much of Italy and
kal*^ lit til'," nnd Mr. Raymond, " who writes little
Lit much" — Lafsek dwells on the
i>e derived from travelling in foreign
, r/nd points out among othera the fol-
fdkcn mj yotJtig nobleman four notchet
f-cQQoeit and pride. For, whereas the
t Tjprcr tftw anybtKly hut hii Father's
ion, ftod never read anything but
<l ; tbidkfl the Liikiiij«end to be the
» <ti i : urMi mat all eolid mreatncM, next unto a
F^fiy* ootitiiia in a ^reat Fire, and a great estate.
HTiercM my treTelling young Lord, who both seeo bo
many gretter men, aod EjstAtes thati his owd, comet home
far more modest and civil to hit inreriours, and farr leas
puft ap with the empty conceit of his own greatness,"
Citing the Queen of Sheba as an example of the
advantages of travelling, our author next shows tut
how to travel with protit.
To enable youth to obtain that very desLrable
result, he evidently thought there was no specific
equal to *' a good gouvemour," and he enters ao
fully into the different good ingredients necessary
to compound **a good gouvemour" that it is evident
he hikd one Richard Lasiels in his mind when he
enumemted them.
To every picture there is, however, a reverse^
and, in this instance, it is "the bad governour,'*
whose portrait is ao happily drawn that I cannot
do better than quote our author's own words.
After stating that the "govemour" should be **an
Engliahman, no stranger," he adds : —
" I speak this not out of an e&fy to strangers, bat out
of a loTe to my own Country men. For I have known
divers English^gentlemen much wrwaged abroad by their
tiovemours that were strangerp^ Some I hare known
that led their pupil to (Jenevap where they got lomo
French language, but lost all theii true Engttch alle-
giance and re «pect to Monarchy; others 1 rftvo known
who, heini? married and haring their eettlements and
interest lying at Sonmar, kept young gentlemen there
all the time they were abroad ; and mode their Parents
in England believo, that all good breeding was in that
poor town» where their wivci were breeding children.
Others I have known who, having their mistresses in
the country, persuaded their pupik, men of great birth,
that it wuB fine living in a Country house, that i» fino
carrying i* pun upon their neckf and walking a foot
Others have been observed to sell their pupils to Masters
of Exercises, and to have made them believe, that the
worst Academies were the best, because they were the
best to the cunnmg Govemour, who bad ten pound a
man for every one he could draw thither. Others I hare
known who would have married their Puptia in France
without their Parents knowledge, and have sacriSced
their great trust to their sordid avarice. Others I have
known who have locked their pupils in a chamber with
a wanton wotnan, and taken the key away with them.
Nay, this I can say more, that of all those stnmgeri
that I have known Govemours to young Noblemen of
England (and I have known seven or eight), I never
knew one of tliem to be a Oentlemaa bom ; but« for the
moat part, they were needy bold men, whose chief parts
were, their own language and some Latin ; and whose
chief aim* was to serve themselves, not their pupils.*^
Passing on a few pages, we cooie to " what
should and what should not be learnt in France,
Italy, Germany, and Holland ^^ ; and it is cimoua
to notice, after the great political changes which
have ocxiurred in the last two hundred years, how
much has remained unaltered in each country.
Speaking of France, Laaseb says : —
*' 1 say. make true use of France. For I would not
have my youni; Traveller imitate all thingn he sees dune
in France, ot other Foreign Couotreys. 1 would have
him ieam of t!ie French a handsome confidence, but not
an Impudent boldness. He must learn of them to come
Into a Eoom with a * Bonne mitM J Wl ^^ Vi xMsfKiV'Q^^ «»
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*aiL8KlT,3^%
mans cb&mbt^r, rut tliey do, witltout no much ts knocking?
4t the l>«or. He muat lean* of them to daiue well, to
ntfe a soimI gmce in w&lking and saluting, ma tkey do, but
ne nu0t oot dftUBe aa lua walks, oa many of them do.
He must leam of the French, to bccomo ftnjr clothes
wet) ; bat he mnai not fcJlow them in oil their Phantoft-
tical and fanfiu^n clothings. He nmst lenm to fence
well, as they do ; hot 1 would bave hU iword stick faster
in the scabbard thvi theirs do. In fine I nvould have
hitu open, ainr and gallant, as they are ; but not a£footing
to be the GaliaQtB of all I^es, as they do.'*
So in Ifcaly : —
*'I would hare him learn to make a ftne house;
but I wonld not hftre him learn of the ItaUaoa to keep
a good houiie. He nmy leurn of them to b« tober, and
wise : but I would not hare him learn of thom to be
jealous and difltnistfuL I would hare him learn of the
ItaliaoAp to receire those that Tisit him with ^reat
oiriltty and reipei;t ; but I would not hare him stand
upon all their Uttle forms incommodious punetiUioa. I
would hare him to be free of his Hat, a£ they are; but
I would have the heart to go with the Hat, as well as
the hand.
'' In Gennany, I would have him team to offer a man
a cup of wine at his coming in ; but I would not have
blm presse to much wine upon him as he shall not be
able to go out agaiot a a they often do. I would have him
learn of tJunt to go freely to warre for the defence of
his country : hut I would not bare him learn the custom
of these vendible souls there^ who carry their Uvet to
market, and serve any Prince for money. I like well
their shaking hands with you, when you first enter into
their houses ; but I like not their quarrelling with you
for not pled^ng a health a yard long, which would nun
youri* I like very much their singular modeuty and
chastity, which allows not bastards to be freemen of the
meet ordinary trudes : but I like not their endless drink*
ing in feaits, which is able to make them freemen of all
fleet.
** In Hollund, also, I would have him learn to keep his
houie and hc&rth neat ; but 1 would not luive him adore
his hearth, as not to dare to light a fire in it, as they do.
I would haTo him leam of them, a B|>are diet ; but I
wovld not have him drink so much as would keep him
both in good dyet and clothes, aa they do, I would have
him leam of them their great industry and oeconomy ;
hut not their rude exacting upon noblemen strangers in
ibelr Inns, for their <Liuality'fl sake only, as they do. I
would have him leam of them a singular love of hb coun-
trey; but be must take heed of their clownish hatred of
nobUitr. Thus in all oountreys I w->uld have my young
Traveller do as men do at a Great Ftjwt, where there
is no fear of starving; that is, not eat greedily of all
that's before him, but fall to the best meats, imd leave
the worst for the waiters."
I will now notice Rome scraps of infomiatioii
that are to be found here aod there in the book,
the bidk of which consists of descriptions of places
and things generally known,
Aa regards the number of idiots in L» Vall^,
he obeerves, ^ which rattkes me think it no vulgfir
erronr which is commonly said, that the cHmats
that (ire most a p tilted Mnth winds produce more
foob then other climats do." This agrees with
the results of modem statistics of insanity in
Europe. Of the five roads by which he went into
Italy, ho sjiys he thinks the best waa then that
from Ljona, by Mount Cenia, to Turin.
gmlM«%^
KbefluiiM
* buJdb il '
Speaking of what he saw ai Genoa, he remackB :-*
** The tops of their houses are made with erpen {
whore the women sit together at work in clnsl
where also they dry their hair in the tun after tbcf I _
washed it in a certain wash, a purpose for to makt il
yellow, a color much affected here by all women."
As the Venetian women did the same thmg^
shows how genend the fashion was io Ital^i
how long it ksted. He mentloiu, alflo. that
Spanish fashions prevailed at Genoa, aaa tbai <
ladioB wore enormous gnardinfantas.
At Novi he was obUged to take a guard of
brigands, to whom he paid three piaioka t^ pro*
teet him on the road.
He remarks at Piaceii2% —
*' I observed in this town aoolabte peeea of tkiifHaw
used by the Gentlewomen, who make no scntpJe to be
carried to their countrey boutes nc wa in
coaches drawn by two oowea yoaked 'he*
will carry the Signora a prettyrouodtfu. ,„,. ..^i Villa:
They afford her also a dish of their milk, and athtrui^
ktion, bring her home again at night without fpcadiug
a penny."
At Bologmi, uxinong tlie articles of ttaffio h*
mentions *' little dogga for Ladywi, ' ' - ^ i^* aw
50 little, that the Ladyes carryiDu tbar
mulfs have place enougn for tli ' '
leaving Bolognn, he hiul to pi '
Botdtina di Hanila to emihii^r uijja v^ iruiv* »"■
State of Florence.
Of the little town of Poggi B^t^I 1.^> finyt—
" famous for perfumed Tobacco in hich
the Ituhang and Spanianls take : -_ e fee-
• luently than we, as needing neither Cuikdk Wt
Tinderbox to light withal ; nor using any oliUr
Pipes then their own Noftes.'^
Ealtb N. Jjpoe.
Ashford, Kent
!> iciaa
SHERIDAN AND SIR JOHN SUCKLIKO.
One of the moat interesting portions of Moo»>
L\f€ of Sheridan is to be found in the sketches of
plays and skeletons of scenes which the biogn*ph«r
found among Sheridan« papers. In tIic pretty
edition recently pabliBhed by M* " o i
Windiis of The H Vib of Richard B,
there is lUso a collection of these " Ui
Phiys and Poems," Among the iinfinli*
we have, says the editor, Mr. Sto
scenes of a drumu without a name, >^
in haste, and with scarcely any conectioi^t
subject is described as " wdd and immail
Mr, Stainforth is not inclined to attrib
the early probationar}' time of Sheridan as
dmmatist. From this - -i !■ ' -'
extmcts are given. Am
part of a dialoa:ue betwe<,ii ., -. .*. . -
named Reginella : —
** HuntM. Instruct me bow X IDA J apprca^lt thtt
address thee and not oflfend*
^mmk
l)C«p^||^
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»* !ii^ * >b. how my ^ntil would hAng upon lho*e Lipi I
■pet" ■ ^ ' ink» be thou!' ' aJ 80—
wLv iHi4B«d« 1 ciur \.
*" ; ct^, I 'mture t ! ratBot
*' /;*'/. Alt thou nut lie to whom 1 told my imme^ aod
dtil*A fcuou dot saT thina
blesMd b« ttie name that tlien thou
een «ver fiinco mj charm, &Dd kept me
T^nt, may I a*)c how auch aweet eat-
f Lid in guch a pluce i
-for such as thoii I nmrer saw
J7^<t* Nor like thee eyer sfajilL But would*8t thou
tliii place, and live with me aia I am \
Uf^ Why may not yoo Iitc her© with such aa I ?
^ iiunU. \«t— bat I would cury thee whtii*e all above
an asttre c&aopy extends, at ukht bedropt with gemfl*
ftad 0{i« more glorioui lainp, that yields iuch hwhful
lll^t *a [or» ei^joy« — while underaenth a carpet shall he
ipread of flowera to court the preasore of Ihy step, with
■wli iwect whiftper^d iriTitationa frooi ihm UtkVUB of
ilMdy iT'oiL'^ or murmuring of ttl?er ilNftiiii^ Uiafethou
iha] 1 art in P^di«e.
1 !
*'±i, •>','». j\y, and ni watch and wait on thee nil day,
and cull the choicest flowera^ which while thou hiud'iit m
the ttijiteriotiB knot of love, I Ml tune for thee no rulgnr
lftj»4 but t^H thee talea to make thee weep yet please
tbee— white thai 1 preaa thy hand, and warm it thus
vHh k&twi."
I Compare with the above the following portion
of ♦'t ^ I :#.... .. Re^nella and Oreabrm, in Sir
Jo ) J ' y of The Oohlins : —
•• U-, .^... ^ct me in what form 1 must approach
thee.
And how adore thee,
* Mffiinelh, I know not what I im;
Hot like myself I never yet law any.
*'Qmihr\H^ Nor ever shall 0? how came you hither 1
Sort jou were betray 'd. Will you Itavo thia place,
Aad ui« witJi »ucb aa I am I
*• /Sa^'n^f/o. Why may not you live here with mc i
•* Ori^ih, /n Tf«; but I *d carry the© where there Is
Ae^ : where all aboTc la iprcad
A CA lod with twinkling g«mii.
Beaut !/< mi ii-i lo rers' eyet ; and underneath
Carpeta of flow'ry m«iidf to trend on :
A thouittDd thouiaod plea«uree» which this place can ne'er
AtTurd thee.
*^ Rfrf^'nfJla. Indeed!
^Orpaf- ^^ ndeed. Til bring thee nnto shady
I proT til silver purling atreamc,
" reather^d (juiristera
I r own accord*
1, ilowen;
' Ai>«3 i it them up myiteriout waya,
f I 'II ilea, and aigh by thee ;
I Xkajg prc*!i Lh) huuj, And warm it thua with kiMM.'*
Mr St^mfnrth qnotes other passages foooi
ly, the originnls of which
fi^' i from Sucklin^*8 GobliriM.
that "thU singular tlmma
havi.^ been liniaheii !
do when be ml*ii»tp«l
scenes, it wouiu be
is far more curious
t^ tliot m SucicHiig't OoiAins^ we Had the getm
whence sprung Sheridan'^ famous IwUlatl, " H©fe '»
to the maiden of boahfiil fifteen, '" In Stidtling
the biUhul begins —
** A health to the nut-brown law*
With the haxel eyes. Let it pasR^ kc
Ab much to the lively grey« le/*
with some rhymes that, b^fv ■ '* -^^a.^.^i.^,,.. '> ..i^y
be consulted by those who u r i i>r
of saucy ballads. In Sheridan . ..„,-_. -i . _ ,. . .ua"
there is a fragmentary glee on woman* but the
echoea come &om SuckBng, for ahe id thwft il«-
acribed : —
*^ She 'i % savour to the glaa^
Aa cxciiia to make it pais."
ThAt the ballad in T^c School for i^candal jfrew
into its well-known perfection from the seed ftung
abrodd by Suckling, there can be no doubt.
There is neither room nor^ indeed, reMon^ for
comment on this verj' <iLn<^^alar and, hitbfiHck»
unnoticed circum^itance. It umj well be included
among the Curiosities of Literature. £d.
How Old was IVLlckxin* ?— In the Conttm-
porarff Rineio for this present month of September
13 an article by Mr. Fairfax Tiiylor, entitled
"Longevity in a New Light," in which that
rjentlemandws more tlian ju^stice to my endeavoure
to put the question as to the averag:e duration of
human life, not only in a new but a true lights
In treating of that part of my book on Thi Lon*
fjtmtif of Mail (pp. 48-9) in which I seek to prove
tluit tombstone inscriptions cannot be received as
trustworthy eddence of the agesiof those they com-
memorate, and in which I state that Macklin's
monument in St. Paul's, Covent Garden, gives his
age as 107, whereas his ooffin-plate, discovered a
few year:^ since, made him only 97, Mr. Taylor
calls niy attention to some evidence as to the reid
age of Macklin, which I had certainly overlooked.
It is contained in Smith's Life of NolUhiutt iL
276, and is m follows :-—
** Wlien Macklin died the persons who conducted his
funeral differed widely sa to hisag<*, though many pcr-
§on§ bad been applied to to ascertain the period of hi*
birth. My araiabio friend, the late Thomas GrisiMm,
attended the funeral, and just as the ruen were lowering
the coffin into the vault, a Utter tunUitnit^g a caoy of^
r^gUUr €>/ hix birth waa put into the hauda of the chief
ntourner, who immediately took out his penknife ^nd
«cnitchod upon the blank space ' 107."*
Difficult as it may appear to reject a statement
so precise as this, the authority on which what I
saia was founde<i (and which I )iad Inadvertently
neglected to quote, ^N. & Q./' 3"^ S. i. 143) 19
still more precise and condosivew The oorrespon'-
dent who details the circumstance of the fimlin^
of the coffin -plate, and sends the inscription on it,
which I have quoted, says clearly : —
" Tlie age it there stated to be 97. I obtuiiad & ^^%
from the beadle of the p«m\M t^ c»ttw:^:d«» c2^ ^^ti»^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6" a IL Seit. 26, 71
is att«ited by the three church wurdeii a who siipcrin-
t«iided the removing and rcpUcing the coffina."
I limy add that infurmatlon to the same effect
was given to me by one of the officials in quostion.
In the face of so plain a, statetnent as the above,
taking, too, into considenition the fact that the
discrepancy between the ages attracted the atten-
tion of those by whom it waa discovered, I think
there can be no doubt that 97 is the correct aoje,
and that the opportune arrival of the baptismal
certificate and the scratching with a penknife the
date of 1()7 on the coffin are incicfenta having
their origin in the innuiiinvtion oithur of Ndlekem
or his biognipher. From what 1 have heard, I sus-
pect the " ornamentation " of the story is due to
the hitter, William J, Thoms,
Mii^s Bacon, — Miss Bacon wan not a practiciil
joker, but a devout believer in Bacon and lifdeigb
being the joint author^? of Shakspeare. 8ht* <*acri-
ficed every earthly considenition for the support
ajid defence of her creed ; and ahe l>ecaine palpably
insane (at Coventry, I believe), and soon after died
in this conntr)'. Lord Pdnierston's belief was
founded partly itpon his own researches, and partly
upon those of Mr. W* H. Smith ; and in idl pro-
bability he bad never heard of Miijs Delia Bacon
or her big book. Jabujc,
Athcnscum Club.
Septingenarian'ibm. — In a country churchyard
in the county Tyrone, I have just copied this in-
scription on a headstone :—
I, H. a
nSRK . LT£TB . TIUE .
BOPT . OF . TSAOM , O
DUmS . WHO , UKPAaTKl>
THIS . LTFE * SKFTICSIEKR ,
THE 22th 1752 . A(iEI>
709 TEARS.
The rustic stone-cutter intended to inscribe 79,
but did it by carving 70 and then adding 9. I
may, however, observe that in this county 8<) and
W years are very common uges, and that I re-
member two persons who said that their ages were
respectively Hi} and 112. But there are no old
registers to refer to. S. T, P.
" OzARisn Majestt." — This &eenis to have been
the tenu by which the Empress of Russia was
spoken of in the British papers in 1737, The
following interesting poiisage illustrutes the use of
the tenn :—
" Edinburgh, Feb. W. On the 16th ult. the Rt. Hon.
the Earl of Crawford received a letter wrote by order of
her Cxarish iMjueBty, inviting his Lordship to enter into
Iho Mtucorite B«rvice, and in such case prumiaing him
the Oommand of a Regiiueut, the Rank of Lieutenant
O^nenJ. and Remittances, for enabling him to take the
Field with an Etjuipage suitftble to hia Quality und
Merit: bat that his Lordghip had returned for answer,
That he was no wibc disponed to enter into the aorric* of
any Sovereign other than th*t of Lis Britannick Majesty,
ni least in a C&pacitj sajierior to a Volunteer ; ma tacU
he had reeolred to make another Campaign at hi4 (
Chargo agamst the InfideK nnJer the Rumibd Bam
and was ready to mount the Theatre of War with i
firat.''
W. H. PATTutaoSi^
TffE BoLETN Fa^uly.— A few years ago ^
had some notices of tlie Irifdi branches of ih
family, but I do not remember to have Bwn an
account of a tombstone in the courtyard of tli
ruined Castle of Clonona, in the parish of Gtdlec^
in the King^a County, about four miles froa
Banagher. It is a Hat stone supported on fottr loi
pillars, and the letters are fiiirly cut, in the styk ( '
the last century. There is no date, and I Ci»n add
no particulars to those in the inscription, whic
mns thus ; —
" Hereunder 1ie6 Elizabeth and Mary Builyn, Daughted
of Thom&f BuHyn, son of George Bullyii, the^o i '
Oeorge Bullyn, Viscount Rocheford, aon of
BuUyn, Erie of Orrnond and Wiltshire.*'
I copied it exactly, J, A* Crosciir,
Old MSS. to Mend, on Tulle AN*t> TATtEMi.j
— In the rofmir of very dilapidated but perhap
valuable MSS., it not uniretiucntly biinpens tbn
to preserve the writing on both sides o( a leaf i« i
matter of the utmost difficulty. For iit.<:i
have lately Kpent some time in endea
repair an ancient parisli register, niiii!;
puK'hment leaves oi which were reduced to memi
crumpled shreds, of less consistency tluin blotting-l
p!\per. The entries were to be deciphered by thdl
depression left by the ink where it had eaten inUJI
the pxirchment, ndher than by any rematni ofl
blackness of the ink itself; and a« the H?»e^ on "
either side happened to be chiefly in c-
aitioR, the corrosion of the ink had simpf
the leaf into tattered strips- Tiss«
case seemed to be altogether unsuit
of uniting the fragments, though i-
l>e used succes^sfully where writin
nevertheless, I should hesitate to ;
most transparent to faded MS., fen J
sequent thicitening or obscuration. t;
leaf without biding some of the aim- t -i h irjii
entries appeared to be utterly impi^ ih if
was almost ready to give up the task u-
when it occurred to me that with the hv\[
very fine net I might be iible to get over the ailit-
eidty. Having experinientt?d with some upon a
scrap of newspaper purposely torn into piecei^ ami
finding it answered i>erfectly well, I eomrneaced
to pftste one side of the i i I«f
of the register, and after .te-lj
in position, bid on them u iJirci- >
than the page) of that delicate n^;
call ^H/i<^,*' carefully pressing it down
* Tulle is to be procured of rariouf dc- leia I
Tlmt which I selected as bein^ mot t suitable inr nie pur- 1
poAG may be purchaaed at one ehiliing per janL
^A
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knife^ and when sufficiently dry to prevent its
stickiDg to other surfaceft, added a heavy weight.
The expedient proved to be effectual aa simple, and
SQOoeoded beyond my expectation ; for whilst the
net ffireB to the leaf a considerable amount of
tougnness-^to be injCieaaed, where neoiis^ry, by
laying it on both aides — it does not in the slightest
degree obscure the most fiided writing ; in fact,
yon have to look dosdy to pei^ve the net at alL
In Ui0 hope that this suggestion may be the means
of adding useful years of existence to many a
deervpid MS», I have ventured to trespass upon
the valuable space of " N. & Q.**
Ggorqe B. Millett.
PeoMaee.
[We mwi rtqutflt eorregpondentf dcflruiK io/onn&tion
on familj mutten of oolj priTmte iDterest^ to affix their
D«me4 mtid t^ldnme* to their queries, in order tb^t the
lanren maj be addreiaed to them direct,]
uo Ballad. — ^I send a copy I made of an o!d
' given to me many year« jigo by n friend^
lake myself, was much interested in anti-
' quartan research. He told rae that hs had found
it in a collection of ancient bsdlads, bearing the
date, OS far M I can recollect, of 1701 or 1702, but
purporting to contain specimens of early Engli^fb
poetnr from the time of Chaucer to Shakspeare
•ad Morbwe.
I ahoald be glad if any of your correspondents
could help me to fix its probable date. My friend,
who died some years affo in India, believed it to
be very old, as he said the origiDal spelling, whleh
he altered to suit my comprehension, pointed to an
early period.
Iliere seems to me a tenderness of sentiment
and a delicaite fancy, as well as its antiquarian
value, which recommend the poem*
"Loan £ll£rj£.
' Fer thy tonl*? sake, Lord EUeric,
A fid ret for thy fovl'i imke,
Codo the irmng tboa'ftt done to me.
Before my bcAri »hall break.*
' For my toul't take, Mnid Mtijorie,
And yet for my •oul'i take,
I ken no wrong I We done to thee.
Nor why thy heart should break.'
* For Ihy fouri take, Lord EJIerie,
And Tct for thy «oiil*i sake.
Perform the tow thou mail'it to me^
lK> noi thy troth- word break/
* For my wvA*» take. Maid Marjone ,
And yet for my soul's sake,
l^ae troth -word m thy ear spoke I,
5ae promise do I break/
* Aod ktn*si thou not the broad hiU-Btde
Where the broom grows fair to see.
And the low sweet words at t ?entide
Lord EUerie spake to me \
* The natliDg birches could not hide
The whispered words he said,
For the marii sang them close beside,
And the lar'rock oferhead.
* God heard that tow as it was giTen,
For the lark his an^eln told,
And they spake it out aloud in Hearen,
And Bware that tow should hold.
' On Earth no word is said, I wean,
But it registered in HeaTen ;
What's here a jeat is there a ein
Wliich may neTcr be forgifen.
* For thy soul*s sake, Lord £lJerie,
That it may with thee be well.
Make not what God has sworn a lie
To d»g thy soul to Hell.' ^'
J. S. D,
BomiN AKD BowNE Favilxes, — Can any of
your readers supply me with infonnation lending
to prove the identity of the family names ^ or
families, of Bohun and Bowne \ I would submit
the following evidence in confirmation of this
theory : — In the College of Anns iis a pedigree of
Bownct <^f Bakewell^ which corresponds in the first
four genenitions with one of the family given in
Thoroton'a AniiquiUti of NoitinQhmtimirt, Ac*
cording to this, they bore ax., on a bend lirg*, cot-
tized or, between six lions rampant or» three escal-
lops go.
These arms are the same as tho^e borne by the
BohunSj EjirU of Hereford, Essex and North-
am pton» differenced by the three escallops.
In Burke's Artnoary they aro ns«igned Ui
Bowne of Herts, with a mascle gu* in place of the
three escallops.
In this work the arms of Bowne, or Bowyn, are
given tta ax., a ltoss or ; while the Bohans, Baions
of Midlmrst^ bore, or^ a cross az.
In the Ckdlege of Arms b preserved an aceonnt
of a visit nwnie to the (^'funiac Priory of St,
Pancras, at Lewes, by n hemld named Benolte,
who held the otfice of Clarencieux from 1516 to
1534, in which he noted down the varioua monu-
ments he saw there.
In describing that of Richard, third Etirl of
Arundel and Surrey, and Eliz:ibeth Bohun, his
wife, he calb her daughter to ** Lord Wyebowne,
Erie of Northe Hampton."
A man holding Benolte-a office would not l>o
likely to make a mistake in spelling one of the
great historic family names of £o gland, and we
may fairly asiume, therefore, that at his time
Bohnn had been modernized into Bowne.
By simply omitting the A— M'hich may haro
been silent— Bohun becomes Bonn, which waa
Srobably pronounced in the same way as Bown or
lowne. Osgood Field.
15, Pall Matk
George Walker and John MjcHELflotrRNE,^ —
In or<ier to verify what 1 believe to ba ismI^s^xw^^
m
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[B*S.Xl*8n*.3C,71
I wish to learu whether George Walker liad a son
or grandBoii of the same name ; whether John
Midielbounie's father, or any other near relation,
WW? named Thomas, I had hopes of finding some
information in a book lately publiahed on the
Dtfence of JJtrry, but I only found a bitter
aectarian tirade against Widker b memory, i\nd «n
atteiijpt to exalt Il^Iichelboarne's fame at the
expenie of hi§ conmide^s renown and jwrsonal
character for veracity, S» T, P.
MoDERK Latik abtd Grkek Verse.— Will
liOEt) IrYTTKLTOK, OF some other of the imiuy
cUaaical Hchohirs who contriljute to **K. k Q,,"
oblige with a list of translations into Greek and
Latin veree, as well as original Latin and Greek
vereCjby modem and medi-t val writers ? I have the
foDowiii^j but would be gbid to iiTcrense my stwe,
riz.y hord Lyttel ton's Comus and Sa^tson Agotiutfs,
Holden's Folia SilvnUr^ Sertmti CartMotianumf
Shreimbury Greek VfritcMy Hayman's Latin and
Greek Verse^ C. R. Ketmed^^'s, ^Itirshairs, ^leri-
rule's Keai^t Hyperion, Buchamm, J/of(/- TfTiTiy-
sonitmf^; and I have aoeess to Lor^i Grenville-*i and
Lord Wellesley's collections, Loni Lyttelton'a and
Mr- Gladstone's joint work, and the ArnndiJies,
Sahrino! Corolla,, the Orford Anthology^ Vincent
Bourne, and Calvcrley. E. G. B,
Adelaide, 8, Auatralin.
^^Fttemarten": "Virgiic/^ — In MS, Sloane^
5(K>8, i,s the following passage, under the dat* of
February 22nd, 1582 :— " We went to the Theater
io se a scurvie play set owt ul Ity one virgin,
which ther proved a fyemiirten without voice, so
that we stayd not the mutter."
Will you aasibt mc? in the int-erjiretation of Uie
term " fyemurten " i Does the word " virgin "
here mean a female singer, or ia it the name of a
J. O. PjiiLLiprs,
solution I
finition 'I
Whervin Im the difficulty of a ^
IL T.
entittv
FroL... -.-...-.
printed anywhere in the
date, 11m 4, is written
cont^raporaty hand* Is
man I
WiUbuD Abbey.
T h-
frnuJl YohUM 1
.•WtrfW til liPI I
n-tiTii* T« 110(1
annhing known
W, Wi
t Loudoun HouBef Byde.
Fox-HuiffTiNO. — I shall be glad
atl ' ' * *
fo:
pa
foi
oh
Ul
•
■Si
:""
:
to have my
attention directed to descriptions of the s])ort of
fox-hunting as practised in the early tmd middle
parts of the last century. Anok,
Is A Change of CmtrsTiAN Name Possible i
— If possible, what is the pro|>er course to adopt
for a father to alter the Christian name of his
child I In the case I have in view the child is
tinder four years old^ and the Either is desirous to
substitute the Christian names of his own father
for those by which the child was christened*
"What is a Pouxn ? -'—During a debate on
Ihe currency in the House of Oommonfi. the late
Sir R. Peel put a questisn— ** What is a Pound f*'
What led to this apixtrently simple <|Uery, but
which nevertheless posed the House, nnd, accortl-
iag to political wiiters, has never received a
StR James Back. — I have only i
gentlenian*s name onoe, n/», in a ti
t ween Prince Theodore Pala^ologi
buried at Landulph) and the Duke oi
the celebrated favourite of Charles 1. .
I gather from the letter of PaLTo]otrii», i
have been in the service of tiio king ^
dnke.
The Curved Sword,— -Can you tell me at wW
date the curved sword, or hanger, was iotiddnced
into Kuro|>e l I am desirous to a:*certain the diilfl J
of a work of art (probably Ficncb) in which %^
sword of this shape is introduced. Z* 2.
"Blow's Bible,*'— Mr, Aitcliison, bookseUir^
Castle Phit^e, Belfast, has obtained, and It^
exhibiting, a copy of the long-dis| '^ *^
Bible." It is in excellent condit
with fine engravings, full page, an^ n.^-
lowing imprint on the title-page : *
Printed by and for James Blow, :(f»'^ f^^
Grierson, Printer to the King's >
Majesty at the King's Arms and
Essex Street, Dublin. MDCcri/' Tl
4to., margins cut down ; the eugrtiv ? i
plate, of tlie usual Biblical chmaciter. F* D.
Belfast
Women upok the Staok.— Mr, Collier p
1C29 as the date of the first r>^'
femide pei*formera {Amiah o
p. 22)^ Imt I am inclined to t
not unknown even to the 1^
shall be much -*'^' ^ to auv
dents who im me wit I
notices upon til- , t. The e.i
ipiaiiited with is that in C^>ryays '
but probably written tome time
the famous 'Tom was at Venice, he wt^t t*
theatre, and —
"Here I obiervtd certain tl:
before. For I saw women ncte, u
before, though I have hci»nl that
used hi London, and they yeri
grace, actioo, gesture, iind wLa-
plajcr, as ever I baw any m
I quote from the edit t
ToL ii
i^Mddfci
»»an.8trr.»,'?l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
**AsTmocs.*' — This strange fonn is used by
^^y. \\ .if*.r Sc5ott, apmrently for ** astute," in
Dvirward," H'otA'»» "Library Edition,"
,^K 15 L It is not to be found in Richard-
Dr evt^ in that most cxhaustire of English
liarie«i| Latham- a Johnson. Ls there any
ilheT authority for it, or is it an invention of 8ir
Tjdter's I Middle Templar.
Biftdford*
" CiMoCRivM^."— The Spedaim, No, 2406, has
article entitled " Ciuioiirdain in the French
ttibly " Can ony one explain the allusion ?
A. L, MArnKW.
, Oxford,
Ballads by W. T. — In the Mcmthly Catalogue^
ust, 1716, there is this entry: "All the
_j made by W. T, in the Marahabea* With
additional Son^s and Poetn*? not yet made
flblick." Wliat do thi^ae ballads refer to, and
bere can copies of them be seen I
W. E. A. A.
Busholme.
"Klijotos** or **Held6ton." — We have in
Jpper Wlv-''^^ ^'^ ^' raven, a round bill called as
' ove. I i ! the name pronounced both
, und V, ..,..., liiti aspirate* The o is always
Dr. Wtiitaker makes the ''El" to be an
iation for "elf," a fairy; but he does not
pt to interpret the " boton," Can any philo-
ftcholar explain why the hill is called a«
re? N,
Lease. — In Januarv last tlie ncwa-
' d that an order Iwwl been made, at
he in-'umce t»i the F ^ ' M^al Commissioners,
• thd production ot idren at the door of
' iirch of Much ^...m between the hours
J re and two, in connexbn with a lease
in 1 SI 1*1 Lv rliM PJ li<tp of London, to a
pr ' hi» three children,
1^ case ? D, A.
^OMrriKtioont,— Thia curious name occurs in
«*x, nt Safftxm Walden, Can its origin be traeed
tftlli C. A. W^ARD.
yfair,
|TitK RfcT. Thomas Gab u.— This gentleman was
in the early ptirt of this century at the
Jtc vh»TH*5 nniH* att^^clied to Manor House, at
itithor of some curious
' I I shall be glad to l«yim
EL^^x- — LiWng at Constantinople, it
ill am able to »ee your
Miay I make use of the
yoiit *x»luiiHiJi to a^-t if any one can
I may find a small book of twelve
ich| or some of which, were originally
preached during the assizes about the year 184(\
in some town in England ? I thought the name
was Le^B Twelm fkrmonsj but from inquiries
instituted through my booksellers, Messrs.
Hatcharfi, I have not been able to find the little
book under that title. My object in obtaining a
copy of this work is to re-peruse the sermon on
" Justification," a subject more clearly treated in
that sermon than in any other work on the same
subject I have since met with*
George H. Clifton.
" Petronius Arbiter.*' — I have a copy " Am-
sterodami Apud Guiljel. L Civsium, 1626." Is
this a sciirce tditlon ] I do not think it is in
BniDeL B.
Pblsorin.— In a South American paper there
iM on anecdote of an " Abate Pelegrin," who wrote
a play entitled Fclopce^ which was hissed. The
same night he received this letter ; —
" P. P. P. P. p. ?. P. P. P. P. P. P. P."
A " kind friend " thus exphtined its meaning >—
*^Pdapte produccior pCiiina, presentada por Pedro
Pelegrin, pobre p«quefio poeta proveniat, presbitere,
pATttvifco perfoctamente premiada,*
Is there any foundation for this 1
DUDLET ARMYTAGE.
Indiak Marrlage or Betrothal Custom. —
A friend of mine baa seen in a book of travels, the
name of which he cannot recall, an account of an
Indian marriage or betrothal ceremony, in which
tiie woman puts her hand through a window, or
some such aperture, and indicates her acceptance
of a lover by kindling a light from a light held in
his hand. Can any reader of ** N. & Q." favour
me with a reference to the work describing the
above? B. F-
HAmmcmaith.
HALL, WYCH, AND SALT WORKS,
{5^ a ii, 183.)
An indirect beneficial operation of "N, & Q.*
has been to inculcate the necessity of a habit of
close reasoning, and of ascertaining the real taetA
in any investigation. Free discussion is an excel-
lent thin^T for counteracting our natural tendency
to substitute fancies for facts, and falLicies for
argument. Mr. P:cton'*s paper gives certain fects,
or assumed facts, but does not embrace all the
facts. In the first place, it is assumed that tdck
means an abode, and that it occurs in this sense
in Warwick and several other names. To decide
this point we have evidence positive and negative*
Of a positive kind we have the fact, a* I believe it
to be, that place-names involving wick occur in
connexion with spots mwrlssA Vs ^ ^T^»ia^'^fc^^='^
QUERIES.
[5»fi.asEw,M,7i.
peculiarity, like the Bitufttion of Warwick^ in
Warwickshire, for Laataiice ; uml on the negative
side is the fact Umt a pkce-namu iDvolving mkA,
or any of its dozen variationSf is nowhere to be
met with in a situation where such physical
characteristic is absent. Now if wick really meant
an abode, like Jia7n and ion, we should have a right
to expect to find it applied in all sitiiatianii indis-
criminal ely^ ajs the latter terms are. The Buppoai-
tion, then,' that such ia its meaning is completely
upset by the fact, as I affirm it to be, that place-
names involving it iire oonHned to spots having
limilar physical cbunicteriatica with the town
ftbove*mentLoned, Pa^Bing over as inconceivable
the supposition that mck^ a house, caine at len^^h
to si^ify a piece of water, as a derivative sense, I
am also compelled to question if it ever had any
properly ** philological connexion " with the salt
nmnufiicttire. I do not ipiestion that the huts
where the salt-pans were situated were called
tt>i/cA^houses, but I nevertheless deny that a wtjch-
house = a «a^f-house. That the inhabitant's of
such places as Droit wich and Nantwich^ seats of
the salt manufacture, should associate ^eu'h with
fi< is natural enough ; but an association of ideas
in the popular mind is far from com? titu ting a
phiiologiml connexion between the words which
esqprefis them. If wfek implies s^ilt, what are we
to say of such names as Norwich, Crostwick^
Keswick, Wickmere, Norfolk, the Wickhams near
Ctoydon^ Surrey, and numerous other " wicks "
flimiJarly sittiated, wliich have not, nor ever pos-
aibly could have had, anything to do with salt i
I am sony to be oliliged to dissent from Mr.
Picton's A-^iew also in referring hal and hall to
Halt. RIy belief is that in no instance hjis hal iu
place-names any connexion with salt, except in a
lew comparatively modem names, and those in
exceptional situations ; and it appears to me that
^Ir. Ficton'S case is sadly weakened by such
random references as Halstemi, which he mentiona
without specifying whether the place intended is
in Kent, Essex, or LeiceMershire. But it is of
* little consequence, since let ua take which we may,
in which of them can it be shown that there is
now, or ever Lis been, a salt manufacture i "At
Haling, on the Hampshire coast, salt-works etiat,"
But if the name Hiding is to be taken to imply
L salt-works, what can be said respecting Ayling^
now Ealing, Middlesex ; Ajrlesbury, Bucks ; Ayl-
^ merton, Aylaham and HaJes, Norfolk ; Hayles,
Gloucestershire ; Halcsworth, Suftblk ; and Hail-
fiham, Sussex I To infer the existence of salt-
works from a mere place-name is like quoting the
' name of Hammersmith} on the Thames, as a proof
that they used to make and mend hammers tiiere,
as, according to the serio-comic popular myth, was
the case,
I have to make one more objection yet. Mb,
PiCT02f, in support of hm yiewa, states that hel is
Welsh for salt. There is no more serious falUcj
than the assumption that modem Wekb andi
Gaelic may be taken as safe guides in the inter*]
pretation of ancient names* It f*iirs*\n-^; t^ mai
highly improbable, and I affirm it t
with their custom, that the ancle n
tingukh a particular bay, Pwlheiii, a& Saitp
where all the bays and pools were siilt. Tb^ J
no part of Britain in which local name» har^ ^^"
so generally metamorphosed in order to adap
to modern meanings as Wales,
To recur to i/n>l-, it seems to me dcstiBlile i
tnice back the history of thi- *
ascertain at what time writer* i 1 1
it to mean an abode or village, i
idea is due to some medifeval et
being fanuliar with Latin only, br^
to that language as a standard » im<\
viais^ he at once set it down for hau... ,
Having thus questioned the acciinicy of Mb.
Picton's view of tnVJt, I beg leave to otfer mj
own, which ia, that it means simply a u^tr. To
quote Barwick, Ardwick, d omnc quod €iU w
-wick, as instances of untk in the sense of '* Iowa"
is like adducing instances in which the mftix -fr^ift
occurs, under the impression that **w
means a town, especially as it is found i
town-names, as Bbckwater, Loudwater, ii^ii'ig^
water, and Bayswater, W. B.
The following passages are taken from Wcr^A
and Places^ by the Rev, Isaac Taylor, M^?
Macmillan, 1SG4 : —
P. 16£* — ** The name* of Northwich, MJddlf ^^-^' ^' »"''
TTleb, Droitvricb, Netherwicb, Shirleywicli
ftud perhaps Warwick, althoui^li inland places
iodircictly from the Norse tr^c, a bay/ and u
A.S. iciV, ft viilaife. AIJ these places are tv
production of Bait, which was formerly obt''
oTaporution of sea- water in shallow iricA« ci
word bajsalt toitifies. Hence a place for l
came to be called a v^ch-houM, ftnaNantwich, l>r ot
and other places where rock salt was found look tror
Damei from the wych-housea built for it« pirpafati'K
P. 391.—*' Domeadny Book enumerates no less ih>.ri : \'
BoJtworka in the single county of Sussex. But ll>< n:
denc« of names enables 08 to prove th " - -
eaUworkt were worked before the adrt i
race. ThiJ we can do by means of th
salt; which we find in the name f
pools/ in Carn&rroDfhire. In the salt
of Germany several towns wh"=" ^
Celtic root hal stand on rivera wb 1
iTnonymia/« Thus J7aU« in Pru
the river .Saa^o (salt-ri«r) ; i^hWuTi Hall in Bf.vir
aUo on a river Sale; Ilallein in Sotxburg stands <»=' i^.'^
Sa ha. We find town b cal ted IJall nea r t h , . «il 1 1 1 i r
the Tyrol of Upper Austria, and of ^^
Haifa in RavetjaberiJ ; Ilnifn and //'
Hor ■ ' ''■ - ' ::
whi
a jjlii' ;..i!-_ .:.u .:. ' ; ■ ,
laton ia Laucashire.**
Nottingham.
Doulvtless the origin of many wkh is as Mr*
PlCTOJff says ; bat is there not another origin for
many others ? There are several outlying' villft^'eH
from larger villAges or towns, called after the Letter
with the addition of mck. Three that occur to me
at the moment are Bray-wick, near Bray, Eton*
wick, near Eton^ and Egham-wick, near Ejrhani, in
the counties respectively of Berks, Bucks, and
Surrey, but within a few miles distance of each
other. Laycattma.
**Whcn the Diuiith and Norwegtun pirfttea r&TAg«d
the eoasti of Great Britain, they ran into little boya Knil
creeks for shelter, and established themaelves, sometime a
temponkiily, tometimes permanently. These vi^f^ or
ba^aleti, t>einf; usually in an inlet or bay. the terui vitj
e^me to signify the bfty as well as the haralet/'
Dane and Norwegian brought with them the
term nJl, to signify a bay.
•*Vfk, f. tittuf TOrtra/*— BjfilMon, Lexicon Poiiicum
Antiques Lingua S€pt€HtnonaUt. xi>cccLtv.
Erbm.
' the archaeological epistle to dba^
milled;*
(5^ S. iL 15(K)
Tbia has been attributed to the Rev. William
Ma9on« Grav's friend. In the British Museum
Catalogue it is ascribed to John Baynes^ of Gray's
Inn, and a MS. note, in a copy of the book in the
I Library, says : —
** By [fpace] Buynei, a Barrister viho died at a Terr
earlt age. Infortned by Mr. Douce, J. H, [Joseph
HaiJewood]."*
In another copy, a " Bowleinn " has written : —
** Let US for a moment grant that the Poems attributed
to Rowky were the productions of Chattcrtou ; we know
that they must have been eomposed at the Age of twelve
or 13, Wc hftre here the Attempt of a learned* a well
educated, and an experienced writer and no mean Foet^
to Imitate Lbem/^
Mr, Baynes (if he, indeed, was the author) does
I not "' imitnt^^* ; he wTote a burlesque on them ;
I bat the MS, note continues : —
**The belt Stansaof this Epistle is as much inferior
rst of Rowley's as a hop [i] tack is coarser in
■ ■li than geaoa velvet. The sprightleness of the
'he keenneas of the Ridicule mnst be admitted ;
Mkd tt fnu^t iilso be admitted that it has had great In-
llneoce in tixin^ the public opinion. It is not the art of
\ obtaining Truth, bat Victory/' kc.
The iMXik was noticed in the Gentleman^s Maga-
\un< ^'■-' 1782, p. 129:—
Poem thi«, oecaAioned by the foregoing
F work , ^^t^.i Ju;ile5*«* Ponns tupptutd to have heev, Writitn
\tU ^ritlot »it tfu Fi/ttaUh Ctniury^ by Thomtu Howlty,
f /*nff ff f^c. With a Commentary, in which the Antitjuity
of t' ntidered and defended/ 1782]^ and ex-
't in Howleian language/*
" V ►em 'Hhia ki*ipoon/'
as a bitter por?onal
tit, feelings, and in-
tended only to distress and degrade. Assuredly
thLs ^ood'humonred burles<{ue is not a lampoon.
The Preface concludes thus : —
*' I have lately conceived that, as Dryden, Pope, kc.,
employed their pre&t talents in translatini; Yir^l,
Homer, kc, that it would be a very commendable em-
ployment for the poets of the present age to treat fome
of the better sort of their predecessors, such as Shalc-
spoare and MiUon. in a similar manner, by putting them
into Arcbfeolo^cal language. This, however, I would not
call iranslalion, but transmutation^ for a very obvious
reason. It is^ I believe, a settled point among the criUc?,
with Vr. Johnson at thtir head, thjit the greateAt fault
of Milton (exclusire of bis political tenets) is, that he
writ in blank verse. See then and admire how eaiily
thifl might bo remedied :—
" Paradi'u Loti, Bovl I.
* Offb TTianncs fyrste bylcrous volundo wolle 1 singe.
And offe the fraicte offe yalte caltysnyd tre
Whose lethal taste into thye worlde dydde brynge
Botho morthe and tene to all posieritie/
How very near also (in point of dramatic excellence]
would Sbakspeare come to the author of J^lla, if aome
of hii best pieces wore thus transmuted ! Af, for
instance, the soliloquy of Hamlet, * To he, or noi toht* i —
* To blynne or not to blynne the deuwere is ;
Qif It be bette wythin the spryte to beare
The bawsyn fioes and tackeli of dystreue
And by forloynyng amenuse them clere/
But I throw these trilles out. only to vrhet the appetite
of the reader for what he is to feast on in the subsequent
pagefl. Vale ei/fwirt*
" Mile-Ead, March 15th, 1782/*
The poem commences —
" EpiiklU to Z^tmtre MifUa,
I.
As wh&nuo a gronser* tvith ardurous^' glowe,
Han' from tho meei'' lichc* iweltrie* sun ariit,*
The lorflyjige'' toade awhaped' creepethe slowe,
To liilte'' his groted' weam"* in mokie** kistei*;
Owlettes yblentci' aljche dooe tLizio'^ awaie,
In irye-wympled*^ shade to glomb* in depe dismaie.
11.
So dygne*^ Doane Myllo«, whanne as thie wytte'^ lo rare
Han Rowley's ameniised' fame cherysed,''
His faemenne*' alle fork t te *' ib eyre groffish gare'^
VVbychc in tbeyre houton sprytes^ theie handevysed,
Whanne thee theie ken' wythe poyntel'^ in thie honde,
Enroued' lyche anlace"' fell, or fychc a burly-bronde"/'
After describing Warton—
'* Thomas of Ojtenford, whose teeming brayne
Three bawsin* rolles of olde rhyma historio
Ymaken banne wythe micklo tene^' and payne/*
— he comes to Percy, another " Anti*Rowleian ": —
" StanxaL— * A meteor. ^ Burning. "^ Hath. * Meadows
• Like. ' Sultry. * A rose^ *• Standing on his hind legs,
rather heavy, sluggisb. ' Astonished, or terrified.
■^ Hide. ' Swelled. •" Womb, or body- " Black. * Coffin.
!• Blinded, or dazzled. '* Fly away, ' Ivy-mantled.
• Frown.*'
** Stanza II-— ' Worthy, or glorious. ^ Wisdom, know-
ledge. '- Dimiiiiahed, lessened, or, metaphorically here,
injured. '' Restored* or redeeujed, * Lnemies. '' Give
up, or rermquisli. * Rude, or uncivil came. ** Haughty
souls. ' See. *" Peru ^ Brandished. "* Sword, " Furious
fiilchion/*
" • Big, or bulky. *' Labour, or sorrow."
NOTES AND QUERIEl
t8*S. n,SCTT.26»74
Deane Percy, alL»eTtW ihou be« a Detiiit,
0 wUatt« arte tli'ou whAnne plicered' with dygne Deone
Mjlle i
Jieto botte » groffyle" Acol ytbe' I wecne ;
Inne autityiknte barganette' lyes alle tUie akylle.
Beane Percj, 8ftbftlu»* will haiiuti thy aougble,
Q'lSfno thou do«8t Maate''gretc Eowley'i yellows rolle."
There are in all twenty-one sianam. I am not
surprised a second edition of the little book was
called for, Spakks Henderson Willlims*
EemiEigton Creacenti W.
The Rev. Jeremiah MiUes was a Cornishtijan.
This being kuown^ all we Live to do is to refer to
a book which I have not yet found wanting in
information on the minutest points, namely, Boase
and Courtney's Catahffu^ of t}t4i Writings^ hoth
Mt>. fimi PHnkd^ of Camimm^n, Under MUle^
in the BthHotkcca Coi-iinhicnsu, p, 356^ the
AfthcBological Epistk inquired for by Mr, Hem-
itliro is attributed, not without some doubt, to
John Barnes. If the BihUoffuca is not in the
*' ]VIu«. Lib., Warrinj^fton/' it will be found a mo^st
invaluable addition, or, indeed, to any library* It
in the most trustworthy and thoroughly biblio-
graphical work yet published. OLrnAR Hamst.
Bibliography of UxoriAS (4**» S. xi. 51D;
xii. pamm; 5*^ S. i. 78, 237.)— To the lists of
works of this character wiiicb have been furnished
by myself and other con tribu tors, I have now a
few more to add. They are :—
" Geranla : a Ncrw DIjcoTerv of a Little Sort of
People, ancientlf diacoursed ot, called PyguiicB. By
JuEfbua Banies, B.D, 12uio. Loud on, litij^/'
*' A Supplement to Lord Anson's Voyage Round tbe
World, containing a Discovery and DeBcription of th«?
laland of Frivola, By the Abbij Coy or. To which is
prefixed an Introductory Preface by the Traualator.
hrft, London, 1762/'
["A Batirical romance on the French nation/' —
** Anticipation ; er, tbe Voyage of an American to
£n^a«d in the year IW9, in r> ^- ,f Letters.
Hmmorooiljr dueHbing the Suppi m of this
Kingdom at that Period. London, t r W. Lane,
Leadcnball Street, 17S1."
'* Some Account of tbe Great Astronomical Discoveriea
lately mnde by Sir John Ucrscbel »t the Cape of Good
Hope. r2mo. Second Edition, London^ 1S3G.''
This last clever brocJiurc was first published in
the United Stdtes^ and being couched in the
sober, technical phraaeologj' of a scienttfic treatise,
with much detail of the method of research
employed, the American press in genend took it
nii fstrieuj;^ and congratulated the world upon the
importance of the discoveries therein brought to
light. It in principally deviated to a close de.scrip-
tion of the lnn»r surface, including itn animal and
"Stanxa V,— ' Match^, or compared. *OroTelling,
or moan. ^ Candidate for Deacon's Ord«n. ^ Ballads*
• The Devil, * Derogate frem^ or Ie«en.*'
vegetable life and its human nice, the Taffptfrlil^
homo.
"A Tract of Futnre Times; or, the Redectioni of
PoiJterity on the Excitement, Hypr>cri<r¥, atid Idolatry «(
the Kinoteenth Century. By Rabort tiareiideci*
don. 185L"
Tlie writer, in his lifth chapter, giveH a ?iew
ne^^tive rather than positive— nif tlie moml per*
feetion at which our country has arrived at
time when the work is supposed to be written*
which he places, with too great hoj ' only
two cenluriea later than the date i i tie-
page.
**The Air Battle: a Vision of the Fatnre. Bj Scr
mann Lang. London, 185i>."
*' Annals of tbe Twenty -nintb Century; or^ the Auto*
biography of the Tenth Pr<aidcnt of tbe'World EepaUk^
3 vols. London, 1874,*'
James T, Prsslxt,
Cheltenham Libvary.
Walker's "Pronouncing Dict^.
S. ii, 146.)— S. T. R i«, I think, r
his sweeping censure of the great < i
the three words cite^l, it appears to me only the
word rauin is a blunder. Walker seems to haw
luisunderatood the pun in Shakspeare. KaUlAff
declares that " if reasons were a^ plenty as black-
berries, I would giv*^ no man a re:\*on on com-
pulsion." This pun, '\\*alker sa^-a, ** evidently Bbftw*
these words {rakin and reason) Were j>r '
exactly alike in Shakf?pearo*s time." I ■
that a pun is necesstirily meant in tnl
there may be reasoTHf, u8 one mi»;. i i I ,
'* plenty as blackberries." Bnt ' -
it is probable there was h vuIl
the word reason, as my^on, in ^
indeed still obtains among tli
Ireland and in some [wirts o!
thought rainn was pronounce! I
word rca*oa, and in this he has i^
Believers ia this great master ot orlhwpy ^wf
1 am one) will fineely admit tlmt he wa« wrong
go fio much out of the way for ,tn authority.
With re^^ani to the second word cited by S. T* t*
I do not know that Walker is far wrong*
S, T, P. would carefully read the note appnd(
to the word raUur^ he will find tht
given, according to analogy, as ra t
fat (we now pronounce the a in rathn ;<
far), the word being, according to I>r. J<
the commralive of ratJi^ a Saxon word, si|
soon. The pronunciation of this word i\&
he distinctly says is merely coll ^m si i: J ^' ;»>
Udk when we wiah to expn
same mAnner, when rafA/;f «igi
we lenjrthen the first vowel, and pronounce it
and Blender, as if written raytker/^ S. T. P.
have fre<piently heard both Udlt and
familiar conversjition : it is eometimea
fiiUy even by highly-educAted peo^
m ceneml stickler for correct pronunciation,
nd of prontmciation W^^lker jiiBtly calk
Vt the third word with which S. T. 1\ finds
hxkiu tuither, which Walker srivcs a» if written
" ' ' ' ' lhj\t it is still a
unced lutther or
;i!ji/n I , Hit laLkti 13 ;i i.uiii|i.u;i i j velj jii*xiern pTx>-
nUQciation.
S T T'
.L,n
Kfl.,^^ discover other words io
I their orthoi'py since
_ ._ . riiiMt }.o fi^w find in-
Even the < 1 words
dsAiiged within ti ir.; for
exASaplet all words endings m -ic^ as ran^^ puhlir^
9BC,f ^^ ^*'^1^ iTi Walker (my copy is dated 1838)
fwt^ V >. Walker s Principles of Eag-
iisli a are not yet obsfilete ; on the
contrarv, the orthoepy of all modern dictionaries
IB baeea on these Principle^^, and in cases where
modem dictionaries dili'er from Walker, it will be
fotmd, for the most part, that Walker \» right, and
iiuA the ixmoTationa have been introduoed oy some
iPOiUii-be orthoepist, probably to give hk com-
|iilAtioii an appemauioe of originality.
W. A. C.
A 6iuun>DAUoHTBR OP Edward III, (5"" S. ii.
188.^1 am not awwre of any reai4on to doubt the
of Mrs. Everett Green (usually a very
writer) that Marie de Barro waa the
^ dttOgliter of Isabel of Enghitid. Anderson &
JSofoZ Ommlop€8 gives her name as Marie. I do
BOi find, by the index to the Liwt of th^ Q^em$,
tfaal Ml«;.<i Stricklnnd <^et¥ her down as Bftrbam,
ONmie^ - she says so elsewhere,
Mki &L . a most unsafe guide
flKL IfneMogiCHi matters. .She is mistaken in sup-
pMnw tlwt Marie was the Lady de Coucy who
mm Mistress of the Hou^^ehold to Queen Isabelle
of Fttnce, widow^ of Richiird IL ; and Mrs. Green
[i jiIbo in error in supposing that this lady was
Iftne'ii sister, Phillppa, Duchess of Ireland. The
oonleciponiry State Fupers several tim&s call her
Mttttlv^ i£ua identifying her with the wife of
Wlluuti* nephew and heir male of Ingelram de
Obqct, Earl of Bedibrdf and hofiband of Princess
IflU^eL I do not i^et/ why it should be suptwsed
UtflA eilher Marie or Philippa wa;* Laily de Coucy
la lier own rit^bt, nti'? I very much doubt any «uch
r^d^t on the her. The fact that hi^ wife
ft called " 31 / ><ym%7ia dt Coney " geenii* to
imilaLte that w ilLaiti inherited the title. Of
^bftl family Margaret waa, I am ii^Mionmt ; can
jmtXConmuotuA^u' ' ' Edward III.
fM 06t 13«. 4«/. II for ncwa of
llari«d#Cor— ' No name
kinrai, but i were mur-
nu an Jtil>. ^^> , ^ >m in 1360
'L4Ni]tf M Mane^ mihur entry
concerning Philippa ; but the marriage of Robert
de Vere was granted to her parents for her beneftt,
OctobtT IG, 1371* She died in September, 14IL
HlCRlfZKTBUDlE.
Ingelram de Coucj* married Isabel Plantagenet,
dftughter of Edward III., and bec^une Eurl of Betl-
fnrd 1366. He v ' i — nor at the battle of
N icopt)lis ; died ; ! ia, 1 8th Febnmry,
13Q0-7, and the Li.r .,. ..^.^ . vUnct.
He had no son, but three dau^ht^rs, co-hcirB.
The tirst two by his first wife, Isabel Plantagenet ;
the third by a secontl wife. By bis first wife,
Marj^ married Henry de Bar ; PhOippa was
Dueheas of Ireland (no issue). By his second wife,
Isabel mfirried Philip of Bu^^undy. See Pierre
Anselme, vol viii., 5-^* K G3BHAM Bilew^r.
LaTuit^ Chichester.
Field Lore : Carr, &c (4**' S. xl xiL ; 5«» a
i. piuHm; ii. 71, 115.) — (L) Fltuh eeems anothet
form of Flush^ assuming al»o the forms of Flesh,
Floss, Flosh, or Floscbe. In Dairy (Ayrshire) h
a farm name, locally pronounced Flesh- wood^ and
ako Floih'ivood; and in many farm towns in
flouth-wffitem Scotland are places called Tlu Fla^h^
which i« descriptive of Witt^ring-placess or, at least,
of Euch as are wd, or overspread with water. (2.)
Peat haq is referred to by M. and W, E. ; there
\& abo the mo^-hag. Hack seems another form of
ha^, and both ih that part in mosses which is
naturaUy or artificially cut, hoUowed, hagge<l, or
hacked; naturally, by waler runlets forming hollowa,
and artificially by, among other means, the cutting
and removal of peat. Hag^ having the same mean-
ing, is similarly applied, as gill (c. j?,, Moss-j^^ill^
Guis-land, Oills-yartl, &c.), which is a water-hol-
low or channel, wet in winter, and dry in summer
(Jam. 8, THrt., t\v. " Hack " and '* Hngg ")• (3.)
*' Grove,*' " Grave.'* A portion of hind at Paisley
is called now, and for lonfj, GTav<S'hind^ which
jj,.,,- :.,... ..^t htnd duy^ and if dug, cuUivatcd; or if
11 V such as was owned or occupied br the
(;. . ... , a/, or i2e<?t>e (A.S.). (4.) Wong (in Htdl-
wong) and I'ang. The miang at Beith (Ayrshire),
a street- name, may have its origin in woag^ A.S.,
or rrt?i^, Dan,, both signifying a Jkld or plain^
this sib© being naturally a broad terrace, or pkt»
form, in the slope of a st^ep bank, (."j.) Ing»,
What is the origin of the many Inglis-touns,
or Inglej-touns, place, or farm-names^ in southern
Scotland, and especially in Galloway from the
Nith, on the south^ to the Rhins? Towns, or
dwellinffs. at or by the meadow place f (G/l Fittic
/,, V ' J V such as miiifht be footed^ travelled
* I iTu and dry. Bums's *\0Hc hn^ **
(V ...-;.M\s'as &- '^'-— '*" *^^" ^^' *■- on
fl ^, which /< iied
by v:.... .uiine from iL^ .;..c., - , „.l.^ the
furrow. '^
254
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^^8.n.StK,24T4t
On the bordera of Statfordshire and Derbyshire,
^ on the Axe Edge range, between Leek and Buxton,
(IB a village ia the former county called Fl^&h,
'which, according to Smiles's Lira of iht Engitutri^
gave ita imme to pedci^lnan buwkers who " squatted
on the waste lands and commons in the d is trie t^
and were notorious for their wilrl balf-lmrbarouii
maimers and brutsU paatimea. Travelling about
[ firom fair to fair^ and usioc^ a cant or slang diidect^
they became generally known m *Fkshmen/"
The names Flaah Gate, Flash Back, Flash Head,
Flash Bottom, also exist near the rilhige. Near
Macclesfield, on the Stock]X)Ft Koad, is a &mall
inn called *' The Flaidi/* Flasii^ or PUisli^ means,
in Che-ahire, a shallow piece of water.
Geo ROE H, Jesse.
MoTUETi Oliver (r>^ S. i. 289.) — A note to
Qmnge^^{Chara€tcTs of Ranarhshk Persons^^xmes,
Caullield, 1820) portrait of Mrs. Creaswell (a
* notorious procuress of the time of Charles 11.)
I ieems to sufficiently indic^itte the position of this
I lady :—
" Mother Eoaji^ Mother Bennet, Mother Moseley, a.nd
lilotlier BeauHe, liourislieilj or ratber decayed, un iMf
reign ^ but of thew mfttroni we hftve no portraits.
Kor bare we any of Mother NeedbAni, Mother Rawlina of
Deptford* Mother DonglaM^ Mother Eastmead, Mother
Pb-tpSy and several other Mother Strumpets who deBerve
to be remembered oi well as Mother CresawelL
Marcus Clarke.
The Public Libr&ry, Melbourne.
I For Mother PhilEps, see a ciiriouB &ccoutit in Grose's
Bi^iioJiar^ of Siang,~\
" Seeing without perceiving " (5"* S. iL 149.)
— ^An article with thia heading read backwards —
" Perceiving without Seeing '* — appeared in Good
Words for January 1, 1869, pp. 45-53. It had a
eeoond title of " A Romance in Astronomy/' and
ynm written by the Rev* Charles Pritchard.
Wm. Penoellt.
Torquay.
Wyatt and Wood (5^ S. iL 108, ISS.)—! gave
(p. im) the date of the birth of Hannah (Wood),
wife of George Wvatt^ as the 2eth September^
1703 ; it Bhould be i28th October, 1698. I still
neek for any information touching the family of
Wood. REoiy.u.D Stewart Boddington.
Tidey, Herefordihire.
Hemming, Kino of Benmark (5*^ S. ii. 88.)—
R. H. will lind this king spoken of under the
years 810, 811, 812, in Einhard's Aitnak^, pub-
liahed in Pertz's "Scriptores Renim Gennani-
canim^' (Hahn, Hanover)^ and doubtless in all
other collections of German and French mediiis?val
historians. Hemming is, I believe, Frisian as well
sa Danish ; possibly its meaning may be found in
Miss Yonge*a HUiory of Ctiristian Names,
' F. MT,
Bishop Richard Davis, D.D. (5*^ Sv tL 133^
198.)— In Edwards^s edition of Browne WiH' *
Survey of 8t, Asaph, 1801, vol L, p. 133^
stated : —
"ThiB Bifihop (Richard DaTics, S.T.P.) wm
Man, and one of the TranalatoT^ of the
English, nvhich he did from the Beginning of Joehoa to
the End of Samuel ; and some of St. PftuFa Eptsllcs
e wiiiyH
im iMsnlH
Bible bS^
Welsh."
Spttllc»ai»
" Defender or the Faith *' (5**» S. ii. 2<KJ.;
In the Epifitle Dedicatory to the High and Mi^!
Momirch King Charles I. prefixed to Ixaa^ B»]
Samkdge Arraigned arid dyndemntd^ Loi
1668, there is this marginal note : —
" Tis a grofiB Error to think th&t thfl Kings of Ee^
land's Title of liefender of the Chtircli ia no older iwBt
King Henry VOL For 300 years ago, in the <U Wriii
of K. Rich. II. to the Sheriffs, the old fityle nc ~
cle«ia, cujus nos Defensor sumus et ease TolumYUu''
Johnson Bailt.
Michael Banim {AS^ S. xi. 134.)— In 1S78
asked if Michael Banim were living, but no
was given. Upwards of a year after I mm
a subscription was being got up for his
{The Times of 24tb and 25th May, 1874). In
note above referred to, on page 135, I gaid I pt^
sumed Michael was still living, a? he would onlf
be seventy-six. Now we have just had his deitk
announced (August 3u, 1874), aged "eightT-<rt»"
Will some one kindly oblige me with his real sgtJ
If his brother's biographer is correct, Michael wis
only seventy-eight. Mr. Murray say*? that ^lirbii*!
was bom " in August, 1796 " {Bin ' ; •
Banim ^ p. 13),— in the city of Kjlk<
I may also observe that there seems lo ue *oni»^
doubt about the date of the death of John, wm
piitttDg it on the 1st, and others on the 4th
August, Olphar Hamst.
New Bsmet, Usrtsi.
Banweix Court, Sombrset (Arms at> (B* i
il 88.)— Bedford, in The Blazon of T ' /.I
p. 19, gives arg, on a chev. sa. three
the first, as one of the alternative blazons oi utn '
arms of Oliver King, Bishop of Bath and WA
1496-1503 (translated from Exeter), on th«
thority of Iziicke's EMitt^ and MS. Brit Mw
Add., 12,443.
The discovery of the stone at BanweU,
these arms impaled with those of the See of W«l
would seem to indicate that they, and not thc4(
which Mr. Bedford puts in the first place on ihi
authority of Cole's ilS. (Brit, Mus. Add., 6,atf
are the arms really borne by BLshop King.
JOHK WooDWAsn. ,
Montrose.
"God Save the Kino" {5**» S. ii, 165.)— 1 1
surprised with the story of the ^^ench origin <
€iod Save th^ Kin^ on reading llioanat Botkc^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
255
Jounml (new edition, 1858^ with a good index).
"n tbe tirat voliiiue, at p. 174, he gives the
^ Cit^Qi " Bton\ and quotes the reraea.
OtrHAH Hamst.
— -nD Cfflete (h^ S. ii. 149.)— Sir
Gil ', or Usflete, the third husband of
EIL .jwbrftY, Duchess of Nortblk, was
d•^^, t ; vaii John do Ugflete and his wife,
Lor;i, M L I eLta, daughter and co-heiress of Gerard
de Furaival, of Munden. He was a knight of
some note in the days of the fifth Henry, and was
At Agincourt with " ix lances and xxxiij archers/*
I^Mia will, dated 13th Sept^jmber, 1420 (as well as
'^ Withers, also Sir Gerard, 5tb Septeraber, 1405),
be found in the firat volume of Ti^tainenUi
xcnaiaj published by the Surtees Society.
The last Sir Genird (the husband of the
Dudies?) lefl no issue, and the estates of the
family, situate at Usefiete (now Ouscfleet), Swun-
ii nt'ftr Hull, and elsewhere, came to his four
I and co-heiresses, wlio ujnrried respectively
tlie familiea of Beauchamp of PaTv-ykei
jrltou of Wigbill, Bozun of BaiTowby, and
I* nil'.- nf Haldenby. The Uslletes bore for
•n a fe«se azure, 3 fleur de lis or.
. of the name may be found in the
WHiai sources of genealogical information, but a
Inistworthy pedigree seems still to be a desider-
\ mtHBL There is an account »f the faniDy by
i Hopkini»on, in HarL MS,, 4630, but, like most of
I Ilk descents, it probably needs revision. Clk.
JklADAiiE Roland (5"» S. iL 168.)— The "Me-
\ moirs" referred to by Uxeda are siiid to have been
written by Mndauie Roland during: her imprison-
ment (Muy-Xovember, 1703). The inost com-
plet'^ * -Tir . n j^ that forming part of the memoirs
rel* French E evolution, under the title
r s de Madame Roland, avec une
Viev* with noies^ 1820 (vide Populor
";, F. A. Edwards.
I 1)» CtBEE A5D Dk BbAOSE FAMILIES (5*^* S.
ii. 1Gh,)>^D. C E. mtxy find some information
[•peijpecting the Clci"e family in Dugdale's Moti-
aMuojK iv. 275, and Hot. de Finibii«, 15 JoL,
|Ju 478. F, L,
^KzifZLM CniLLixGLT" (5»^ B. ii. ICD.)— The
nn*^r of the eong, My Qvcm, referred to by Lord
Pi till* novel, was composed by the hite
n(*i.^ Popham, of Littlectjte, Wilts. I am
' it Mrs. F. Popham's setting of Mij
r been pMUhed^ though it has been
ted in MSS. If it hus been pub-
r be very recently. The same words
i v'> music by B lumen thai after Mrs,
%m*9 death, but her setting has nlways re-
the mo^t popuhir version. The lady
to by Lord Lytton m ** the one lady who
alone can sing it. with expression worthy the verse
of the poetess imd the music of the composition "
is the late Mrs. F. Ponham's sister, Lady Sher-
borne. The words of the song were not written
by Mrs. F. Popham, though they are by a hwly.
LiifDis.
" Kendez-vous " (5"> S. ii. 169,)— I do not find
an instance of this word older than HaHu)t
{VoyagUf ii. 285).
Charlbs F. S. Warren, M.A.
This word was used also by Clarendon and
Burnet ; and antecedently, in the following from
Raleigh^s Apology : —
'* A commander of many ahipfl should rathor keep liii
fleet together than hftTc it severed far asutider ; for the
attendartce of meeting them again utthc next rtndavoHi
would consume time and victual/'
— Also Bacou : —
"The philcaopher'a s^tone and a holy vrar are but
renderj-oiu nf cracked brains, that wear their feather in
their head instead of their hat "
William Blood.
Liverpool.
" Tooth and Eoo " (5^ S. ii. 169.)-'Thi8 i^ a
corruption of TuUtiague^ or more properly Tuttnafff
which is sm alloy of copper, zinc, and nickel. It
was ori^nally introduced from China, where it is
used in the manuiiicture of gongs, giving to them
their peculiar sonorous properties. As it takes a
fine polish, and does not readily tarnish, it was
adopts as an imitation of silver, and is really
what is called German silver under another name.
The term TutJiie^ or Ttdie (whence derived I
know not), was long ago employed both in Ft^ince
and England as a name for the droes adhering to
the walls of furnaces where zinc is contained in
the ore smelted. It was used in the olden time in
njedicine. Cotgrave, a.d. 16,10 {nth roce*^Tuthie^'),
describes it as **a mcilicinisytle stone or dust said
to be the heavier foyle of Brasse, cleaving to the
upjjer sides and tops of Brasse melting houBca,"
J. A. PicroN,
SnndyktiOTrc, Wavertree.
This is doubtless a corruption of TuUnag^ the
name of a well-known Chinese alloy, sometime*
called " Chinese silver." Tutcnag is an alloy of
nickel, very simikr in composition to the white
metal known as German silver.
P. Le IS^EVE Foster.
See *' N. & Q.," 2"^ S. vii. 476, 510 ; viii. 38,
78 ; X. 144, 214. W. G. Stone.
** Takiso a Sioht ** (5*»» S. it 166.)— In one of
the Latin dramatists— either Terence or Pliiutus —
occurs a phr.tse .somewhat to this ett'ect : — " He m
a low fellow, and put5 his tinger to his nose.'* I
am quoting from memor\% and, therefore, cajmot
recall the original, nor be cettaitL «a Xjo \ks[ ^wci^«^*
itig of the pai^ftge. Some years ago, in a lecture
which I delivere<i at the request of some reverend
friends, I alJudeil to the |>assage, and considensd it
to b^ liD old allusion to ** taking ft sight/' By nay
subsequent travelling in Ituly, I have, however,
been induced to think that the dramatist may
refer to a custom, prevalent in It^ily at the present
day. I allude to the placing a forefinger to the
right side of the nose when enforcing an m'ffttment
The only thing against the idea is the " low fellow,"
for the modern custom is n?od by grave divines in
the pulpit, by advocates at the bar* by judges on
tLe benchf and by senators, as well as by the pro-
fanum imlgus, Jakics HESfBY Dixon.
BoMAN Conr (6* S. iL 168,)— The projecting
^chin is Teiy characterifitio of the portrait of
iHaximinua 1. a,d, 236-238. I suggest that the
obverse inscription reiwls thus : maximisus ; rius :
AUG : GERM. The woman holding something like
a " huge family umbrella " may possibly be Peace
holding an olive branch, with the reverse legend,
FAX : AUousTi : s, a W. G. Stone.
The deacription by J. G. is not very intelligible,
but 1 think it may be a coin of Maximinns, a.d.
235-238. If I am correct, the legenil would be
MAXiMixvs pivs Avo GERM. His portrait has a
very prominent thin ; reverse, Victory, with a
shield and spear ; legend, pax avgvsti. I have
one in my caoinet as above, and another inspection
of the coin may enable J- G. to see if the proposed
reading will HO up the vacant spiices, and tally
with what remains legible on it,
SAlfUEL SuAW,
Andover.
Mr. Jbffersoh Davis (5** S. ii 16O0 — I have
Lpo recoUection of having heard the ex-Pre«»ident
Mate tkii he was of WeGh extraction : but he has
prften, in my presence, referred incidentally to it.
VOn one occaision, during \m recent visit to Eng-
land, in describing some operations in a slate
liuariy in Wales, he cxprcflsed astonishment at the
large number of workmen, whom he likened to
awarms of flies, saying, he never thought ho ** had
80 many coiiflins," Should your correspondent
desire a more direct answer, I will write for it to
the fountain head. M. D.
Ay Old Clatmoiie (5»^ S. ii 169,)— I am
afrftid the particulars which Scot gives of the
claymore are scarcely sufficient for fixing the date
when it was made. " Sohlingenj*' or ** Solingen,"
is the well-known town in llhenish Prussia famed
for its cutlery, rapiers, swords, ifcc, "J, J,
I Bunker* might be the maker*3 name, although I
► doubt whether there is such a name in {i?olingen,
and Sis^st the renowned firm of '* J, A. Henckeb,"
which being, perhaps, obliteiuted on the claymor*,
reads as " J, J, Runkel" Hermit.
**TrRKEN" (5*1* S, iL 185,)~-It would U
teresting if S, T. P. would favour us with a lat i
^^ all the dictionaries to which he haa meetm
Turun is to be found in the ' nm
Worcester, Webster, Richardson, hm^i
and, in Jodrell's
tionary, 1820, the v
** A hollow ve^isel fui
ing quotation : —
'' At the top a fricfl ^
At the bottom Vi.i-
Qoldsmith, J
LIU the
„.i K,....^ ^^^ ieoig
Mng tuweo.**
Po-ms, p. 2!»,edlrt7.
It is worth noting that this illustratioii has I
copied by subsequent lexicographers. Rt/fenoomt
or examples of the nse of the word, wtmld he
interesting, P. H.
Dr. OgUvie's Imptrial Dietioncuv docji nrp
" Tureen (Fr. fijrriTW!)," W«Migwood give
Tureen. Fr. krrintJ" Thus, when wr
silver soup-tureen,** it is a direct c^ is^
J ■ ... .. .: r.Ifc
"MoRu^i E?rcx)MnrM*' (^^ B. iL ISO-j—TO
can mean none other, I should imagine, th.in Jcb
Buns Scotu^s called the ** Subtle Doctor.'* Ftilk
(Cliurch History) says — ** fc^ome ^»'lf ^•"-'^ »'f'^^
called Scotus, ob profundUHinmtn
takmt from his profound obscun
Tliis " obacnrity " the Latins often c\
the word qnnosug =^ thorny ^ priclhi^
clearness and perspicuity. Thus <
iiL 1, 3) — ^" Nostracpe, ut miht \
oratio. Stoicomm autem non
liU^ vel tpinosum potiiis, dis>
I take it, Is a fair answer to the t^utr^ — " WiiJ
bristly and prickly soull " EDacTJND Tkw, M.A
The quotation is a very firee translation. Th»
original runs thus : —
** Fortaase magii convenict op tare, ut mteriai, to
thenlogum agOj f>er(|tie has spinM iogredior^ Seotl toiaa
liAuHeper ex iua Sorbona in meum pectiu dnoi^^
qaovis hintrice Atque eriniuseo ffpiaoitor, moicoiio nsK*
gret quo labebit, vel i^ KopaKaQ^'^'^Bratmi nntm^
Moria, it 3S4 (Tauchnitz).
The allusion is evidently to the *-»"^"^ "/^^wj-
man and thcologlnn. Johannes *S
native of Ireland, who lived at the ^ i.ji'
the BiUd in the middle of the nin( Ui
took an eager part in all the t! ^. i cdb*
troversies of the at;e, arguing on the muoooDtftic
side. Tlie hrisihj soul refers to the polemical m^
ofScotup. A. L, IbtATKIW.
Oxford;
Oliver CRoinvELL anc the CAraKDaAua {^
S. viii, 1<'^' ' .,>^irr?,)— I wa« i'>^iv «^^UUig tlii
bran-nesv ipe, the cl -o ofSaKi'
bury Oaii:^ -.1 , .:id on my cui .^ ;. .. i. Jdiying^
it was too gaudy, the verger replied, ** that It
a
9»aiI.8w«.S6,7«.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
257
»
fxaetly liJse the origmaU as they had found a copy
c»f what it was before it had been , defltroyed by
C^mwell s commissioners, ''^*' Thoinaa Cromwell,"
*^ ** I* ^ the time of Ht^nry VIIL, more thmi a
* Ypars before Oliver CromwelL"— *' Well,
«r." d the verger, ** 1 hiw© ftlwayji under-
ft<» Oliver Cromwell,** and some of the
by- t?ined to confinn his view. — "Make
in'i vour canons/* I added. — **Well we
0 ciueatiou now," said the i^m*
nl he went on describing the
Slbj^rrh m me jnc:wie. Thus is verj^er'5 history
eoiitiBue<l. On th»* previous Sunday I had heard
oni» of the canons prej^ch a^nst " scientific tmth/*
80 well as I could mnke out from his indistinct
Utlemace. I hop© historical truth is not equally
OOlldAiimed in the precincts. Clarrt.
BtmnHA (5*** S. ii. 165, 215.) — Would Mr.
AsHTox W. DiLKTc kindiyadd to the infonjiation
aheady obligingly communicated to the readers of
** N, $c Q." such farther partictdars as he may be
mble to obtai 'rig the parentage^ life^ and
death of the upfioMa to he identitiuble
witli the Saxuii jh. uk, .Salcya Mtmi^ styled Buddha,
the awakened, a highly important historical cha-
facUr, regarding whose date nothing at all poftltive
caji at present be said, owing, peraaps, to uncer-
t^intv tirL,inL^ out of the same title being applicable
I lo 1 Hirsonl
^^'' I ti Buddha connected in any way
I villi the town Buda, called OBen or Oven, in
iHltngarT, the rojral cuatle of whii?h, according to
[ j* ^ A^Hiiic Cliiefx, vol. i. p. 189, was
rbtiil IV., JLD. 1225-70? E.
ExGLtSH Surnames (S*** S. i. 262, 330, 352,
301,470 ; ii. 157.)— I take it we have at least 100
fkamei prefixed by the Welsh ap, ab. Among
otli«ra are Abethdl, Bethell, Apted, Apjohn (by
oofniption Upjohn and Applcjohn), Bew, Pew,
Pne, Bevan, Beavan* Bilfin, Bowen, Benyon,
Bmyon, Parry, Penry, PoweU, Pro^'^'rt, Probyn,
Prodger, Pomphrey, Pumphrey. The French
pflme Hulivr (which is not \incommon in France)
h without lionht corrupted from Hubert, from
k^O0 and br^eht. Wachter renders h(h€, hufe (Med.
I^ h^ba^ huha^ hou^iti^ hioha^ hohixnria^ (*ba\
runticUB (also modus vel mensuriv agrij :
knhtfT^ eolonu3, posseMor hul*a^ and the
ne lltibner. R» S. Chaknock.
Qiay'i Ian.
T OF THKiR Times ** (5*** S. i. 40S ;
I have before me the work cited
iudon, Ui4o),find TAf Marrow of EccUsi-
!wtory, by 8am ur I Clark, third^ edition,
Both books aro adorned with
** of the worthies whoac lives are
note to the Address to the Header in
the lirat-mentioned work says : — *' Most of their
Effigies were obtained, as they are placed before
their Works : some out of divers Books of holy
Orders, where they be figured for Saints, othere
out of several Libraries and phices of Antjquitie."
All these portmita are copietl without acknow-
ledgment in Ckrk*8 book, with the exception of
those of S. Bionysius Aneopagita, S. Clemens
Alexandrinua, S. Amobina, lACtontiua, Eusebius,
S. Hilarie Pictavius, S. Ephrem Synis, 8. Epi-
phanius, S. Gregorius Nyssenus, S. Theodoretus,
S. Cjrril, S. Petrus Chrisologiis, S. Fulgentius,
S. Isidorus, S. Damaren. Theopljylact» Nyce-
phorus, Anselme, Peter Lombard, of whom noticea
are given, but no effigies, Gi-egory Thaumtvturgus
and Rupertus are honoured by Clark with neither
portrait nor life.
The nimbus Ls omitted throughout in the Mar^
ron\ &c., and everj^ trace of monastic or eccleat-
a^ttcal costume csrefidly eradicated. Compare, for
example, in the two bookj* the portraits of
8. Athsinaaius, S. Chrysostou}, S. Auibrose, S,
Augustine. S. Ambrose, in the later work, loses
his beehive ; S. Jerome, hla lion ; S. Augustine,
his attendant angel ; S. Bernard, the all-seeing
eye, — emblems which accompany them in the
earlier book.
Nimbus, mitre, eccleswstical robes, emblems,
monk's cowl, all are carefidly eliminated, as one
would natiindly ex|>ect them to be in a book
written by iyimuel Clark, and recommended to the
world by Eduitind Cahimy, Simeon Ash, and John
Wall, ^Vhence were the other I'dtenesse^ in the
Marroic obtained \ Johnson Bailt.
Pallion Vicarage.
The SociETT of Arts Memorial Tablets
(5"> S. ii. 106, 155.) — The suggestion to raise a
fund for this purpose is a gooil one, and I hope
that the editor of *' N. & Q.'' will lend his influence
to thfit end. I should be glad to see the following
houses; marked : Dr. Johuiou's in Gough Square,
and William Bkkes in Brood Street, Camaby
Market, or in Fountain Court, Strand. It would
be useful to register in *^ N* & Q." a complete list
of all the houFes at present bei\ring a memorial
tablet. I only know of these : Lord Byron's in
Holies Street, Dr. Fmnklin's in Craven Street, Sir
J. Reynolds's in Leicester S<iuare, Dryden's in
Gerrard Street, Soho, and Fbxnmn's in Bucking*
ham Street, Fitzroy Square* J» W. W,
[A tabUt la a^xed to the bonfte, le, Kine Sfereei;*
St. J&mei*«, in which NapoUoa 111. one« retideo.]
TiTE Grxfi OF THE Garioch (4** S. xii. 206,
254, 337.) — A report juat issued by Willuim Don-
nelly, E»q., Regiritrar-Genenil, on agricultural
statistics in connexion with Ireland, contains a
most vtdnable apneudix on the "extirpation of
weeds,'* which mii^ht be st^di«d'm\.Vv ft4^TiSii»^>s\
258
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t5*S.IL8iFT.2(J/74.
every one who may he in any way connected
'with the cultivation of land. The following extract
beiups on the question of the " Gale of the Garioch/'
Litely diBcussed in " N, & Q," Mr. Donnelly is
quoting " that eminent man and real patriot, Sir
John Sinclair, tirtst President of the Board of
Agriculture/' He saysj—
" In Ifenmark there i* a law to oblige the farmers to
root up the com marigold, chryaintk^mum JN^ii4fi, But
the oldest re^ktion for that parpOM was probably In
Scotland : a statute of Aleiander II. about the je&r 1220
harine been direct^^d agauiAt that vrtted, which woa con-
sidered to b-o pe<;urn»rly pemiciotiii to cora-fielda. It
d€fumnces that man to bi a traiior * vKo pouoHt ike
Kin^'i landt with 'weedt, and introduce* into thim a ho*t
o/«iMmief/ Bondsmen who had this plftot in their corn
V€t€jintd a ihtepfor each xlalk. Under the authority of |
that law, Sir WilUani Grier&on, a Stottish baroo, was
accustomed to hold Qoul courts, for t be express purpoAe
of fining the fanners in whose crops three heads or
upward of that weed wore found.'
W. H. Patterson,
Belfast
Old Engravings (5**» S. ii. 47, 1.^5.)— I have
both the GngrayingB described by Ma. Patterson^
and both have been cut pretty c1of<?, but enough
margin is left on each to furnish the pttrtioukrs
naked for, viz,: —
No. 1. ^' live, lordaens invent :—Iacobu9 Neefs scnlpslt :
— A* Bloteling Excudit Cum Priuilegio/*
and the following motto —
"Quern mlmbarift fiatu modo pellere frtfrus
Agricolam Capripes, nunc quid iuepto fugia :
Sic opus eet, tiatu iiniiii fujjiit ecce calorein:
Os ardmusque duplex sunt inimica niibi/*
My copy is also of a deep brown tint, and I
think from iu uniformity that it is the original
colour of the paper.
No, 2. "L lordaena pinxitt—Vontermtnj Scalp:"
and the following motto : —
*• Isle fripfUfl k ardorem
Flaiu peUit, liitic teporetn
Rebm sepcr. ingeret/*
Scroieaper hunc horrescit
Dnm nee calet nee frigefcit
Et quem DeuB doseret."
The paper of this is white, slightly creamed with
age. This has doul^tloaa been in the collection of
a connoisseur^ as it hws on the inar^in, in pencil, a
reference to Bmnde, vol i.^ p. 338. I have not
this work at hand to verify the reference, and if
Mr. Patterson can inform me whence these
I mottoes nre quoted, or any particuhir^ of the fable,
' I should be glad. Francib M, Jackson*
Portland Street, Manchester,
Lord Chatham and Bailet-s "Dictionart"
(5*^ S. i. 448, 514 ; ii, ir^d)— I have a copy of
Bailey, which Iin>< every appearance of being of the
first edition. The dsite im lT2i» There is no
intimation on the title-paj^e of any previous edition.
The dedication is the satnc an that mentioned by
B. B. But there i«, also, an advertisement, whicll
perhaps, is not in any other edition ; it seems
likely to come from a writer making himself I
to the world. It is on the last leaf of the
duction, on the sjime page as ** Abbreviationi|
use of in this following Work." It is an fo\h
"Youth Boarded and Taugbt the /f«&rwr, *7n
Latin Languages* in a Method more Ea«v - • '
than is common; aliio other Schoo! '
A u(Aor of this Dktionarit^ to be heard <
Bookseller at the sign of the Dove io ratcr-HQcUr-l
&c.
s. 8. a
"Town's Hall" {b*^ S. I 285, 439.)-Thq
say "Towu Hali" in Manchester, but they
and write, and print *Hhe towns water"
speaMug of the wuter supplied by ihe Corp
The sign of the possessive case is comrnoB,
out in Lancashire, in the West Hiding, and i
Peak of Derbyshire. I once ^ranted some infoj
mat ion from a Mrs. Taylor, who lived a liti
north of Buxton, and on inquiring for hen
I was answered by a rustic youth, *^ Dun
Jonathan Taylor wife or Sam well Taylor widow 1
Ellcbe*
Craven*
*'The Nionr Crow": Bittern (5^ S.
pawim; ii, 76.) — I return my best acknowle
ments for the kind replies concerning the
and am sorry that my memory does not ret;
names of the authors of the hrst two quotj
the last was from Hemy Kirke Wliite's
Tim^ Gjsoroe R, Jii
— " at eTening o*er ihe Swampy pU
The Bittern's boom came far/'
is in Thalaha, Fifth Book.
In Wales the bittern is called aderyn y
(the bir<i of the hollow cry, or sound), and
y gors (the boom of the marsh).
George M. Trahsritk
Naaman the Leper (b^ S. ii, 188); —
" By hiui the Lord had given ddiTeranee unto i
—2 Kiaffs V. L
" And wlieu tbey sought to kUl Ahab alone, 1
not find him, thore waa a yotmg nobtetnoti belon
King Uenhadad« wbo^e name wM [Aman] Ntoi
drew hia bow against the enemy, and woujtded I
throuf^h hia breastplate, In his lur^gA."*— 1^
Joscphui, Tiii. c, 36, § 5. _ __
C. R. IkLl
Hudson, in hia edition of Josephtir;, v. .1
(Oxonii, E Theatro Sheldoniano,
the following note on the passti-
(Antiq, Bk viii. c. xv, § 6); —
'* Undend nomen *A/j«ivoc? Apud Kosl t Iniiti'^fift
Bcribitar fnisse Nuamati. An hoc idem rot n
(|Ui JudaTcaa trsditiones aliquando tnii^cct]
Johnson' t>An.i.
Pallion Vicmmge.
•&IL8nT.a6,7«.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
259
r. Grove, in Smith's Didi&narit of the BibUy
ir«r9 to the tradition as derived firom Josephus,
remarks that it is " a Jewish tradition, at least
old ua the time of Josephus^ and \vhich nmj
weU be a genuine one.^ Ed. Maebqall.
VBeing,^ writes Bishop Patrick, "the person
I the Jiw^ say in Midrasch TthiUim) who drew
n l>ow at adventure and killed Al^xb^'—iCominmit.
jw* 2 Kin^ii V. L) EjDMU^fD Tttw, M,A.
StTFFOLK Chartehs (5* S. il 168.)— The con-
cture of S. D. G., respecting the origin of the
D6 ** le Deneys ^^ U in accordance with the
^marks of the latest authority on the subject.
Ir. C\ W, Bards let, in his careful treatise on
iinmmes, observes : —
•» EntriM, like * WiUmm le Norrii/ or * Walter Ic Nor-
Bis/ or ' Roger le Daoeis/ or 'Joel le Danevs/ are of
Dtiitant occurreDce. These, added iu the othera, tzia;
mentioned as bringiug before our eyea the broadeat
uita of European immigration, and with scarcely an
exception thej are found among the EngUah Bumames
«f to-daj."— C>» Enaluk Samamtm, tfnir Sourca and
tieations. (LoudOD, Chatto k WinduA ; ii.d. ; Preface
lUoT.. 137a.)
■ the occurrence of Danish names of places in
J^orfolk and Suffolk, Mr. Isaac Tuylor^j IVords
md Places may be consulted, p. 165, Lond., 1B65*
Ed. ^Larshall.
EpioRAif (5*J* S, iL 188,)— The following foot-
note occurs ftt p. Ifi of j4 Shttf'k of the Hut&ry of
the OxfordtJiirc Militui^ by John M. Davenport,
Esq. (i869) :—
---! Trial in 1831j whiek onsuod upon the
M JO of the coimael for the defence face-
|ti c following stanza :^ —
' The fault id great in man or woman
Who itealj a gooae from off a common ;
Bat who can plead that nian'tf excuse
Who ftieaU the common from tlie goose T
Cotivtyti>i€tt*t OnideJ'
Lower Heyford, Uxon< G, J. Dew.
The correct lines are : —
" The crime is small In man or woman,
Sahould they a goose steal from a common ;
But what can plead that man's excuse
Who steals a common from a goose 7 '*
-and form the reply of " Hodge*' (the commoner}
** the Justice who inclo«'d the waste '* from
irhich Hodge ** stole a goose hy famine led " ; see
* The Cottnger *' fanon.) in the Humourisfi Mia-
" HI/, " Crosby & CV>., London, mU:* There is
swer to *' The Cottager " commendinix the
tion of wastes, ending something like this: —
* And twenty (cattle) feed where one goose fed before/'
Bttt I cannot lay my hand on it. G. S.
Ax Old Clerical Anecdote (6^^ S. ii 204.) -
IJjiiler tbia heading F. H. notes " Ore we, i. *'.
Brwk.'* This I tiSce to be true, but not in the
m tntended byj^. H. Is not "no Grewe"
U/ the Greek oroc yp?, **not a fylkble/* ** not
a bit." " He did so, because he understood nothing
about the matter." Featley (-4 Case for the ^pcc-
iadeSf London, 1638) uses, at p. G, the Greek idjom
in its Latinized form, ** But as touching the contro-
veraie, Ne gry quidem." I do not remember to
have met with the phntse fuUy Anglicized as here ;
but, prt>b:ibly, some correspondent, better read in
early seventeenth-century literature, may be able
to give an example. Johnson Bailt.
Fallton Vicarage.
MiMttUKmBui*
NOTES ON BOOKS, &a
Journal of th^ Royal Huiorical and Arckfrological
Association of Ireland. Froceedings and Paper n
of the Royal Historical and Arch(EologicalAsiio*
ciatioJt of Ireland; originally founded as the
Kilkmny Arckfrological Society in the Tmr
1849. Vol. IL, Part II. Fourth Series. (Dublin,
M^Glashan & Gdl.)
There is no hiatorictd and archaeological society
that furnishes more v.iluable results, or more in-
teresting iMicoiints of how those results were at-
tained, than the above '* Association of Ireland.''
Here U a large Hvo. volume of about 4()t> pages ;
it is filled wit h " Proceedinp " very weO condensed,
and *' Papers" exceedingly well written. One,
" A Kamble round Trim," by Mr, Eugene Conwell,
contiiins i\s much as an ordinary volume, and is
much more anuising than umny volumes which
chronicle similar rambling experiences. Much of
the history of Ireland, ancient and modem, is to
be found here, including church iind social history,
manners and customs. We observe it recorded
that Bigby, Bishop of Elphin, ub. 172(J, flourished
fls a successfid amateur painter of miniature
portraits in water-colours, and that his talent for
taking likenesses helped him to the bishopric ! A
curious custom is noted as prevailing in County
Wexford, namely, the hanging on old trees, near
churchyards und at cmsi* roads, wooden crosses,
formed by nailing together the corner pieces cut off
the top and bottom of coffins in the making. Some
trees are laden with such cr^js^es. Among epitaphs,
there is one in the old biirying-ground at New-
town, Trim, which merits notice for its auaintness.
It is in the form of a cross, and is aa follows :■ —
L H. 9. __
Edmond Max
An His Mary*
Pray '
For
Uinise
Lf And
nu wif
Bes Fox
Who Dyed
In ma.
260
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[a^aiLswcse^^m
It is not wiid wh«T " His Man- '' ^iw. The volunw
u 4idmirab1y ilJustrated ; particulir {mviae is due
^ the ijortmit of the Fuir Goraliime.
In Ex/i^ayjetii^Ti o/j4?tnV>/f Tt'7i«jc arw/ Mr4XSttrts
of Land WM aomt Accfyfint of (^hl Tmun^.
Collect<?<l ATiii ConipiJed frmii Various Soun^es,
and Arrsvn^'ed in Alphabetical Order. By
Pliilip H, Hore, of Polo Hore, C^, Wexford.
(Pipkering.)
TiTHix six dozen pii^^f^ Mr. Hore has comprised
one of the most useful of hiindliooks explauatory
of ancient terma and lucttstirca of hmd. The com-
piler hfia the rare quality of oondensntion ; lie
packs a large amount of matter into a very small
spaee, which reminds one of the i)acking of a pair
of Limerick long gloves into a walnut ^helL
Measures of land varied much in different counties;
sometimes in the same district of one cmmty» There
are ancient raeasureis which are nowunascertainnble;
for example.^ *^ Worthine/* which is derived from
the Saxon U'^orth, a ftum or country hou»e. Dr.
Cowel thinks that we get from ircorth the " noun
so often used in the pluml to distinj^uish men of
«B€?ful and estimable tjualilies/* When we re-
member tliat '* pecuniary " comes from pfcuf^ and
that in Low Latin "^^ baccularius/' as Professor
Stubbs tells us in the Glossfvry to his Select Char-
krs, was originally the owner of a ** baccadaria," or
grazing farm, from haira=^vacca^ a cow, we get
quite ft new idea of the old meaning of a wortliy
bachelor ^ith pecuniary means !
H t«ei n« of lh« R<v Jiyhn BiitekUs«6tt. KItticr ItM QHltffeU MtSUaQ
Of lU* Rrprtm «r I9l«,
n. A, Hoftjitit '■ AtAtiit)c«a A«oaunt of WlftvMk.
I«« ci,i and atHer TiMm* hj *' A." INcv
£itAi<i HT a (M.) Ilittorr of tbe dcoictt^ Of our E^MiAl ViiJirrtil
Ws have tlie greatest gratification id rtfcrring our
readers to tho aQuounccmcnt on tho Imck pftjc^ of the
Ere«€nt number. The name of '• Halliwcll " Lm lonj?
ccTi honoiimbly connected with that of Sbakapeare.
Increase or re[Huttitinn i)^ likelj to revult;, if the Hch
ptomiso contained in the list of content! to tho fint part
of Mr. Ualliweirs Illuntrationt of Ihf Life of Shalsf/tare
be, aa we do not douht it \n\l be, idealized to the letter.
The liat itself is full of information, and whets the
appetite for tho feast we are to enjoy in a few weeks.
OcR old correspondent, Mr. K- W. Dixon, of Seaton-
Carow, Durham, informs m that many of bia best effoita
are abottt to be incorporated in Tht Bumlet/ Tune Book,
under the editorship of Mr. Thomas Simpson, of Bum-
ley, organift and ohoirniaater. This work will be pub-
lished early next year,
A?rjiQKAM»— *' By transposing the letters in th€ nama
of * The Marquei»'of Eipon ' the following^ anagram b
found to result:— '"EJ.P.*" quoth FrccmaaoM ! * "—
SaTuiders'B (DMin) NevfUttUr.
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Another order, the An^felici, was founded by the
peror Angelus Coiunenufl, IlUl.
Mn. MoRTiMiR Collins directs attenttcn '
in punctuation (fl'" S. ii, 231):—'*! wmt
Reform*) — the words serpt nnd ftttr^e are
pronunciation, and the vowel in both is oeithar 4j
bat the urvocal vowel. / itnd h, at souttded Iqr
tary grammuriana, are diphthongs/'
Eplalib,— The line inquireil for runs Ihiw : *• FawnUa
fronte patct, Yir pectore, carmine Mufa."* It U said t4j
Imve been written by Julea Janin on OoorgC' S«nd (Mi
DudeTantj,
Mr. F. Rule kindly writes:— *«1 shall T
copy Richard Fletcher'a biography, if yourc" ■
cannot obtain It, aad forward it, if W. G* l>, *' wil
favour me with hi« addreaft,"
F. G. W.—« Again'* rhymes properly witt '*pm''
** vain," &c,
L\. DoN.^A drama, in five acts, entitled BoH^mM^
acted at ilie ThMtre Franyais in 1824.
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lOJrDOA\ SAtO&DAr, OJTOBSR X IW4
CONTENTS. — N" 40.
I
u.t..i. TJi.,* >oticluded\
■■\ iUlw Wft* A
itmcUuD for
,,— , I . ,, ^ , ...t.4jaory— "Tbe
I Cnckot. >Am« of— Cbirles
QujLkt^ra— The Course of tlie
^BU«n'i AUa»— i;aorge IV,— MlwaJ— PronnBCi*-
7 — Bynm'i BirthplAcn : " A^D&iTenarjr Calandar" —
,— Clock'HtriJcing— '* U^nvclittu Rldenc at tx DiAlogpt
baiveen *Jert «id E«ro<«t/" Ac— Carouo : lotai^U^^The
Feet«g« ftad Ikup&aiagc-^Condarus, E&rl of ComiraU— " A.
Modem Aocount of Scotland." &c.—V^n MiuiufAoturen —
&7inbol laStAlDed Glas*— Sir Franciii Swift— Johel deTotti«i
— Diaanii*! "Tancred/* 2(tH-4<eretiteenUi Ovntury Toketis—
Kogttt dt Qulnoy— Freoch Bjttu^teM^Tht *' Cdeiitiiriita "—
VioIuil4 4c.— 2!onjlin Fumily— PotM><Ilc« Mooe^ Orden ia
ITOL-^ohn Weder'a Edition of Thotnaa A Kempis, 269.
REPLIES ;— Pina Silver, 2e&~"The Ardiioologlc&l Epistle to
Ifem M1I1«8," 270— Dnnbl? Chrisliiin Nftmea— " Aald Bobia
Onij," 271— The ' - " *' ' t— "Lucug a non
IbmwimJo"— Un*ui r Weir, tbo Edin-
boi^h MaglijUn or *'Th« Three
— Lomifjn vc^mp LTta wjui Antioch — " Unac-
AB 1 am;* &c.— UeredlUr}- KnlgfaU of the Order
«f St Jolm,273— " A4 Sotind &« a Tr^ut •*— Ttaiwlt of Venui :
Jsrcoiiah Hoirocki — *' IroB V^irgtu," Nuremberg —*' Orewe,"
i, r, Greek— '^Monsletir" and " Madame "—Queen Caroline
^llfblfcul Kridenofr-Sliotov^r ; CbAfteau-Vatt, 274— ''Bou"
''^ the Tntnk-maker— aliaddoiigabe, 276— MouiaigQea
-Owper : Trooper — Welsh Toitamoot, 270 —
— '* PrlTate ftlsiorf of tlia Oouit of England '*—
LUK K«/onn4 — **ArtiIot" — " Knaire "— George Coltnan,
"Gueaaa at Troth "—Princes of the Blood fioyal —
"—A '• Tract;* 278— 'Put to Buck," 271^.
A TRAVELLING TUTOR OF THE OLDEN
TIME.
fCoruiufted from p. 244. ^
It ap|>eaw from the scL-ond part of the book
red inPnrr ' -^ • . nt dii Moutier,
167'^ th;i ;t8 in Borne in
L Jubilee, 1«.;m , ,ui >iitich occasion he
liw^lnnocc nt X. wash the pilgrims' feet,
" ^*" ' t Poussin, the celebrated artist, resided nt
* I Roiut% and Lass^b quotes his opinion
ad's Bafth of ConskmHiic was **the
f tliUig in the world for design."
Ipenkiug of the £reac*>efl in the Loggiii of the
he gives also what was no doubt the
I of Pous^in and t he connoisseurs of Rome
5f) ;—
Tlmt of Adam and the ore&tioQ; that where Adam
r.3 the aheop drink,' tliat where Jacob
' t' that where Moseg shows the Laws lu^
}tnu\r.c^\ T rV.ir. Thftt of thc DclugC
1 Calf lu-e of the haod
■ Jofiie coiaiuands the
' ' :^ aroof the hand
j<uiot bad Rome
^ „ J lidoro). Thfttof
^•Wkiiitf tUe rock; th^t of the Judgment of
jnd iom« others ore of the band of Julio
That of the Baptigm of Ohrwt, with other
I like^ Are of the hand of Pellegrino div Modena. Yet
hcoauflc in all tho*c pictures Kjipbnel Urbin gurc either
thd desi^, or some touches. Urn g%\icry ia onlled
Kapbaera gallery."
In ilh' Fjirtieae Palace he says he saw "divor»
exc< '^Ti8 of the same Ilaphuel, and of
Mi< 1 i" ; that eaiieciitlly of hia Judgment."
A little turtber on he saya, apeaking of the cere-
mony of a Bede Viicante^ when a Pope dies :—
'• Uf all the had compUmento that ever I he&rd made,
I Lik« none flo dl ojb that of a noble man of Germany,
urbo being asked by Pope lutiocent X. whether he had
seen all the ceremonies of Kome, answered, that he bad
seen all but a Sede VMcantc ; as if ho had eaid^ Holy
Father, I bsire seen all the fine Bighta of Rome hut jour
death. A horrible Tramontane coaiplirnentt which put
CTen the Pope himself to a smile. "
Lagselii &i\j8 that the price diartrcd by a vttturino
for the journey from Rome to Naples and back,
with traveller's board and lodging on the road
(but not at Naples), and the use of the horses for
two daya at Naples, waa then fourteen or fifteen
crowns.
He was at Naplea a few years aft^r the revolt
under Masaniello, and observes^ speaking of itj
" They shewed mo the house of this fisherman ;
but the other houses shewd me his fury. Thou-
sands have not yet recovered tho3e ten daiea
tumults." On the way back to Rome he comphiins
bitterly of the ('u atom -House officera at Pumli :
"* For to some they pulled oU' their boot^ ^earclied
their pockets, breeches^ doublets : nay, even their
Baddies, horses tiiils^ and the very horses feet,"
At Venice, LaaHcls tells us there were then twenty
thousand gondolt\,s^ — that the trade with Aleppo
alone brought, in some yearSy four millionii of gold
—probably crowDs. Speaking of the Venetian
Qobles, he observcg : —
"They wear olwaies in the town a long block gtjwn, a
black c»p knit with an edging of black wool ahwut it
like 0. frinjy;e ; an ancient and manly vreur, vrhicli makes
them look like Scmitoni. Thtir hair i» gerjerall? the
best I ever taw any where; tbc*e tittle cupi^ not presJing
it down as uur hats do ; and Ptrywigs are forbid. Under
their gowns (ivhich tly open bi'forel they liave baudsome
block auitea of rich stuffd with stockings and g&rters, and
Spaniab leather ahooea ncutly made.'*
On the Venetian ladies, he remarks :- —
'* As for the women here, they would gladly gtt the
same reputation that their husbund? hare, of being toll
and band»r.nie ; but they overdo it with their horribl©
CioppiTii^ or highahooe^, which I have often seen to he a
full half yard high. I confess I wondered at first to see
women go upon Atilts, and appear taller by the head than
any luaji ; and not tu be able tu go any whether without
resting tbtir hands upon the shoulderi of two grave
matrons that usher them ; but at lost 1 perceived that it
was good policy, and a pretty ingenious way either to
clog women at home by such heavy shoes, or at least to
make tbem not able io go either far, or alone^ or
invioibly/'
Speaking of the famous glass-houses at Mnrano,
Lfi3sels eays that they then funii?*hed almost nil
Europe with drinking glaases, ** and all our T>a<liejs
cabinets with looking gjaaai^^* — ^OoikX* ^'e^ '^^ xa^XKt
262
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*aiLCkT.^T4.
here forth two hundred thousand crowna worth a
year " : —
** For the High Dutch they h»vo high cliuseH, called
Flutes, & full y&rd long. For the English that love toaits
witli their drinlu, thev have curious Tankards of thick
Chrystal f;l&88, juat like our silrer tankardg. For tho
Italians tlmt lore to drink letgurely, they have glasBies
that are almost as lar^e aud flat as silTcr plates, and
almost as uneasy to drink out of, and so for other nations.
In one shop they were making a set of glasses for the
Emperor, of five crowns every glais : They were drinking
glasses with high covers made like spread eagle?, and
finely gilt."
After speaking of a numher of ships, orgaiuj,
and castles, made in glass, he adda : —
"Here also I saw them make those vast Looking
gtaraes. whose bnttleneea sheweib Ladies themselves^
more than their reiection doth.'*
It is very clear^ therefore, that ahoiit 1650
foreignei^ were id lowed to see the mamifacture of
glass at Murano.
Of the Italians of hu? time, Laasels says that
they were usually grave and ceremonioiip, and
very proud of their equipagcii and horses^ — that
even the boys treated one another with politoneaSi
and that be never heard *' two women scold or
man and wife quarrel in words, except once, and
then they did it privately and secretly, and scolded
in a very low tone."
As to their customs and manner of living, he
iays they usually married without having scarcely
seen or spoken to their future wives, and goes on
to say : —
" They make children to go hareheaded, till they be
four or five years, hardning them thus agfiinst rheums
and catarrhea when tUey shall be old. Hence few people
in Italy goe so warm on their heads as they do in France;
men in their houses wearing nothing upon their heads
but a littk calotte; and women, for the most part, going
all bareheaded in the raidat of winter itself. The men
throw (jf their hata, cuffa^ and bands, m well as their
cloaks^ at their return home from y'nits, or businesii, and
put on a gray coat, without which they cannot dine, or
stip ; and I have been invited to dinner by an Italisn*
who before dinner maJe his men tak off owr hats and
l^loaks, and present every one of ua (and wo were five in
Iftll) with a coloured coat, and a little cap to dine in. At
■ dinner they serve in the best meat first, and eat back -
I Vards, that is, they begin with the second course, and
nd with boyld meat and pottage. They never present
m with salt or the braines of any fowie, least they may
«tn to reproach unto you want of wit. They bring
I drink upon a Sottoooppa of silver with three or four
! upon it. Two or three of which are strait neckt
jlasses (called there caraffa'a) full of several sorts ef
Tiriiies or water, and one empty drinking gtasse, into
[^bich you may powr what quantity of wine and water
^*"ou please t*j drink, and not stand ty the discretion of
_ be waiters as they do in other countries. At great
Aasts, no man cuts for himself, but several carvors cut
up all the meat at a side table, and give to the waiters,
to be carryed to the Guests; and every one hath tlie
very same part of meat carried unto him, to wit, a wing
&nd a legg of wild fowl, &c», least any one take excep-
tions that others were better used then he. The carvers
never touch the meat with their bands, but only with
iliejr knife und fotkj and a great eilrer spoon for the
•Mi
wfWHff
sauce. Every man here eats with his fork and knife,
and never toucbeth any thing with his fingen, bat hii
bread : this keeps the liunen neat and the fingerv iweet.
If you drink to an Italian, he thanks yoo, with h^**'"
when you salute htm, and lets you drink quietly 1
fas wo do in England) to thank you again when yi
drunk : and the tirst time he dnnks after thai wifl
you, in requital of your former courtc«y."
After mentioning that the Italians counted the
hours up to four-and-twenty, and the habit they
hiid of addressing persons by their Christian nAmea,
Lassela says that " people of quality never visit
one another, but they send fiiit, to know when
they may do it without troubling him they intend
to visit." He then remarks that ** husbands tad
wives are ^eldome seen together in the name ooadt^
because all men do not know them to be so."
Ralph K, Jaxbbl
Aahford^ Kent.
THE FOLEY FAMILY,
Hi chard Foley, the founder of the ennol
family of Foley, was, says Sir Simon Degge, **
a seller of nails, afterwards a forge-master,
a verv honest man at Stourbridge in Worc<
shire/* He died on the 6th of July, 1G57, aged
seventy-seven, and was buried at Oldswinford on
Thursday, the 9th of the same month.
A!l the pedigrees that I have seen make him a
native of Stourbridge, and the son of one Edwr*
Foley of that place. This I think must be a
take ; for not only is there no trace of this Ed'
Foley in the parish registers, but the very
Folev entry therein is the baptism, on July
lC3l", of '' John * the son of Richard Foley.''
In the year IGlfj a Richard Foley was Mayor
Dudley, and in that capacity signed a petition
the magistmtes assembled in Quarter ^ "-
Worcester. In 1G34 the name of Rii
of Stourbridge appefira in the list of " 1>
at the Heralds' \ iaitation of Worceistci^hij
in that year ; and I imagine that he
Stourbridge about the year 1630, when hv pur-
chased the manor of Bcii€ok(ue. Stourbridgo) feito
the Sparry family.
The Rev. Robert Foley, Rector of Oldswinfoi
in a letter to Br. Na«ih, the historian of WorttMj
shire (dated May 13^ 1781), e^iclosing an itoi>eTt(
list of the Foley entries in the parish
remarks : —
" There are numerous cntriei both of baptisms
burials of the Foleys, of which name there have bee J
and »tiU are many very poor familids in this pariili J~
the neighbouring ones of King's SwinforJ, Dadl
Kowley, ^c.'*
And he adds : —
** I have only glanced my eye cursorily «**£f J* (<
register) and transcribed such as offered <""^ ^"""
• He was Rich&rd*8 youngest son. tnd w >
married in 16S2, aged fifty {Vn, Wore, K. 4, in *
Arm.).
^^H^^Ui
^ 8. n. Oct. S, 74 1
NOTES AND QUERIE?
noiict bj being: written in capitala, on lamented with
flourUbcfj or dLBtinguishcd by ' Mr/ or ' Mrs/ in frotiL"
Mr* Foley's letter is mijileadiDg ; for the Foley
Bines are not rcry nuiuerou.*:, and I ttiu enabled
[to ainte pofitivciyf tVoiu a very careful examination
jof the regtBterSi that^ with very few exceptions,
|lh«^ ull rtibte to Kirhnrd and his descendants,
ItniUi ft)>out the middle of the lost century, when
orne of the neighbouring poor fnxnllies to which
[^ refers put in an ftpijefirance.
Kow it appears to me that Richard Foley was
not d native of Stourbridge, but of Dudley. We
' Bve seen that a Ricimrd Foley was Mayor of that
[town in 1016, and I find that in 1627 Richard
IToley of Dudley purchased lands in Stourbridge
I from John Sparry.
JUfci635 Richard Foley ot Dudley, yeoman, pur-
""""^ji rent^hzLt^e on lands in Dudley ; and in
Mid 1640 Richard Foley, the younger, of
Jey, yeoman, acquired land a there which (in-
Icltiding the rent-charge) were afterwards the pro-
fpertj of Thomas Foley of Witley, Esq., son of
Finally, Richard Foley of Stourbridge, by his
irLU, dated 1056, gave a rent-charge of 6/. to be
apJoyed in the maintenance of a lecture at
udley, and also of a certain building to be em-
I ployed ivs a echoob house there.
Richard Foley was twice married. The nimie
_f his tiret wife appears to be unknown,* but by
her he had a son, Richard, who was thrice niairied,
l<itt© of liis wives being Margaret, second daughter
•of William Brindley, of the Hyde Kinver^ co,
Staffor^i, sister of his father's second wife, Alicct
]ko waa the eldest daughter of the said William
ey. In a pedigree of Brindley compiled by
Ue Holme (Harl. MS. 2119, fo. 67*), from
I derive this information, Richard Foley,
ir,, is described as ** of Dudley, co. Worcester,
I of Richard by his first wife." And it appears
Ithftt Johnniui, the third daughter of the same
iWilliam Brindley, was first marrieti to nii Edward
iToJey, of "Briatow,"* and secondly to Thomas
IJuclraDD, of the same place. This pedigree was
Ji»mpiled in the year 1637.
** Mrs. Alice Foley, the second wife of Richard
' ' the eider, was buried at Oldswinford, March
8tli, 1663, aged seventy-five, so she was only
yearn her husband's junior. It is evident,
ifore, that he must have married his first wife
early age ; and it is equally evident that
the son must have been much younger
i hU wife Margaret, his stepniother^s sister.
Shaw, in hiii Hutory of StaffoTthhire^ speaking
^ \V,^ TU»de in Kinver^ or Kinfare, says :—
pfiirt from a pedigree of Roberta of Sutton
" ! /-i Leicisttrithirt, that a *' Richard
^y lire" married Elizabeth, daughter
. ii^.-., iLoberta, Rector of Stony StnuntoD,
bo diffd in 1^^.
** Here wM the first niill for rolling and tptitting iron
that WI19 erected in England. One Brindley, whose
pcMitcrity enjojed it till about twenty years ago, wont
into Genn&Qy» there ucted the part of a fool, and from
thence brought this excellent machine, which has been
m eerviceabie. and has brought so much money to this
country."
Kow the very same story is related of Richard
Foley ; and, without pretending to decide a« to
who was its real hero, I conclude this already too
long paper with the following extract from Scri-
venor's History of the Irmi Trcwie, 1841, p. 120,
where it is said to b^ taken from Coleridge's
letters : —
" The mott extraordinary and the lot etltaUd inBtaoce
of enthusia«ni, exiiting in conjunolion with perseveraDcv,
is related of the founder of the Foley family. This inan,
who was a fiddler, living near StourbridgCf was often
witneas of the mimcn*e labom' and loss of time caused
by dividing the ro^ls of iron, necessary in the process of
making nails. Tho disooverpr of the process called
fviitting, in works called ^ItUino miiUf wai made in
Sweden, and the conaecraenoes of this advance in art
were mo«t disastrous to the mantifacturers of iron about
Stourbridge. Foley, the fiddler, was shortly missed from
his accustomed rounds, and was not again seen for many
yearf. He had mentally resolved to ascertain by what
means the jirocess of splitting bars of iron was accom-
plisbed ; and without communicating his intention to a
single human being, he proceeded to Hull^ aud thence
without funds, worked his passage to the Swediah Iron
Port. Arrived at Bweden, he begged and fiddled his way
to the Iron Foundries, where, aJ"ler a lonff time^ he
became a liniversal favourite with the worxmen; and
from the apparent entire absence of intelligence, or any<
thing Jijce ultimate object, he was received into the
works, to every part of which he had acceei. He took
the advantage thus offered to him, aud having stored his
memory with observations and all the combinations,
he disappeared from amongst his kind friends as he bad
appeared— no one knew whence or whither. On his
return to England he communicated his voyage and its
rebults to Mr. Knight and another person in the neigh«
bourhood, with whom he was associated, and by whom
the necessary buildings were erected and machinery
provided. When at length everything was prepared, it
was found that the machinery would not act ; at all
events, it did not answer the sole end of its erection — it
would not spUt the bar of iron. Foley disappeared again,
and it was concluded that shame and mortincation at bis
failure had driven him away for ever, i^of so : again,
though somewhat more speedily, he found his way to the
Swedish Iron works, where he was received most jointly,
and» to make sure of their fiddler, be was lodged in the
irplitting mill itself. Here was the very end and aim of
bis life attiiined beji^ond bis utmost hope. Be examined
the works, and very soon discovered the cause of his
failure. He now made drawings, or rude tnciugs; and
having abided an ample time to verify his observations,
and to impress them clearly and vividly on his mind, he
made his way to the Port, and once more returned to
England, This time he wa^ completely succofsful : and.
by the results of bin experience, enriched himself and
greatly benefitted his countrymen."
It is a pity to spoil so good a story by suggesting
any doubts as to its entire accuracy,
H. Sydney Grazebrook.
Stourbridge.
264
NOTES AND QUERIES.
F0LK*LORE.
THE 8EVES WHieiXERS.
Tliese sapposed wamers of evil to come ikre on
the wing agmin, and their shrill aknim still Btrikea
terror into superstitious soula. In "N. & Q.'^
(4*** S. viii 68) record was made of their having been
henid in Lciceatershire, also of Spenser'3 illusion
to " The whistler ahrili that whoso heara doth die,"
and that the develin or martin, the swift, and the
plover were probably of the whistling fraternity
that friijhtened men. At page 134 it was ahown
that Wordsworth had spoken of one who^ —
"... the seven birdB h«ih seen thatncTer part.
Seen the Scren Whiefelen in their iu£hU? round*.
And counted tbeni/'
On the same page the swift is said to be the
true whifitler (but, aa noted at page 1&6, the swifts
never uu^e nightly rounds), and the fiupcrstition
is said to be common in our Midland eounties.
At page 268, Mr* Pearson put on record tlmt in
Lancashire the plovere, whistling as they fly, are
accounted heralds of ill, though sometimes of
trivial !iccident, and that they are there called
" Wandering Jews," and are s:ird to be» or to carry
with them, the ever-reetless souU of those Jews
who nssisted at the Crucifixion, At page 336 the
Whia tiers are chronicled as having been the har-
bingers of the great Hartley colEery explosion.
A correspondent, Viator, added, that on the
BoBphoma there arc flocks of biKls, the size of a
thrush, which fly up and down the channel, and
are never seen to rest on Itind or water. The men
who rowed Viator's caique told him that they
were the souls of the danmed, condemned to per-
petuid motion. The Seven Whistlers have not
fiu-nished chroniclers with later circumstances of
their tuneful and awful progresi^cs till a week or
two ago. Several kind contributora have for-
warded to us copies of the following paragraph,
which has been going the " round of the papers ":—
"i?uri*R3TiTioN. — On Monday TOorninp larpo nurabers
of tho miriera eiiipli>yiuj nt some of the Bcdwrirtb ci'llieries
in North Warwickshire, giving ivay to a superstition
which has long prevaiJed among their ct&sa, refused to
desoead the coal-pits in which they are employed. The
meti are credulous enough to believe that certeiQ
nocturnal souudA, which are doubtlesR produced by flocks
of night'btrds in their pa ss&ge across tlie country* are
harbingers of aome impeudinif colliery di*t»6tcr. During
Sunday niglit it was stated that these tsoundis, irhich have
been de^ienated * the seven whistlers,' had been diatinctJy
heai^ in the neighbourhood of Bedworth ; and the result
wa* that on the following morning, when work should
have been reamncd, many of the men positivt'ly refused
to descend the pits, and were to be seen on Monday
idling about the atreets of the town» The recent colliery
accidents at Bcdworth and the 'sounds' by Hlijt^b thev
are said to have been preceded seem to haVf? aiip'tuctited
rather than diminished thin sttperstitioufi behef."
We have to thank a correspondent, T, V. L., for
directing attention to the fact that the Wliistlers
Am heurd itnd feared in Portugal, In the Xew
m
Quarterly Ma{fasvnej for July, there was
interesting record of trsi veiling experic i
country. The following extract is an*
tration of this subject :—
*' * I see your ExooUcncy laughs at the ghoste Imt
if these are lies, there is no lie about the Berea Whiitkily
for many a tnan beside me has heard them^'
" * And w ho are the Seven Whistlers 1 '
*** Yes, to be Bare, who are they I If vee knew iheW
the priests could ex(»rcise them so that they thooldA't
frighten honest folk at duik on winter njghta/
" * And you have seen them yourpelf ?*
** • Not ieen, thank heaven^ or I should not be *Ht«
tell yottr E^iccllency the story ; but I hftve heard tli4
plenty of times— beard them whistling and iKrreattuiif
the air close over my bead. Some BAy they are
ghosts of children unbaptized, who are to know ne
till the judgment day. Once lastwinter^ the night befofi'
the New Year, I was going with three donkeys and a
mute^ laden with flour, to Caia; the ro«d pairecs by the
bank of the river nearly all the way, and t stopped to
tighten the mulo*B girth. Just at that moment— Holy
Virgin ! I shook all over like a milho leaf— T -ay ju«t st
that moment I heard the accursed Whistlers e(»0tiflC
down the wind along the river. I buried my head uodtf
the mulo*s Ifclly, and never moved it until the daofir
was over; but they must have passed very near, for I
heard the flap and rustle of their wings as clear as t
beard the tread of our horses* feet on the ground at tins
moment.'
*' * And what was the danger?'
** * The danger ? Only that if a man once looks up si
them, and sees them, heaven only knowj^ what will not
happen to him — death and damnation at the very least^
'* ' When I think/ said I, * that I have seen them
scores of times ! '
" Francisco clearly did not believe me. * And
did your Excellency do r he asked, after a paaae»
** * J shot them, or tried to*'
" * Holy r^Iinhtr of God ! you English are an aw^
people. My father and mother have told ftoHeS
your nation that I never believed till now. You 9iM
Seven Whistlers?'
'* * Yes ; we call them marecos (test or widgeon^
country, and shout them whenever we can* They srr
better to eat than wild diicka.^ "
Ka
ab^^J
!noa^^
** Willie was a Wanton WxaJ* — In UiAt
beautiful selection of Scottish song, by MiM Majv
Carlyle Ait ken (Macmillan & Co., 1ft 74), I obscne
that, while Miss Aitken gives the atttiions of all
the lyrics, bo far tm they are known to her, th9
adds the following note m to this song i —
"Mr, David Laing inclines to thi: vriHsxni
Hamilton of Gilbertficld (Boro ItJSO i i ' h* t
wise called * Wanton Willie/ is the uu.»w. ,» v**^!! ai
hero of this song/'
I have before me sotnn "INT.^ nntp=; nn thp hM
Douglases, of >lorton, in
of the family, and I see '
is a tradition in the family thai i
liero of this song was the cclel
Douglas of Finglnnd, tho suitor ot
and author of tiiat Scottish lyrir,
Latiric. Is it known at what
wixs first circulated in Scotland ?
{■,
5" 8. n. 0<T. 3, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
265
was born about 167S, and was suitor of Annie
q:, I ,_ .| . ,^5^ handed down in
lo to that recorded
r. ui quarrd, being one
his ttnie. He fought a
- „/4CSt^ A nei^/^i^' ii'i' which
laL At the in t the
fought ;i not* ^ ntnal
1 and diflAnned him, le^s, as
ii, by akill in fence than by
i's *' herce and squinting eyes/* All this
to 8iut what we mi^ht expect in such d
iBter as in shown in the linee : —
*• Hifl hi>oU they ire re made of the j^*
\^ lit to the weapon«ch*w,
Ui n n&uo durst him brag,
li.v ..v><... D> a Mie among them &*/*
J further light be tbro^vn on the author of
' dd mng I In regard to wkit Miss Aitken
\ done for Scottish lyrios, she baa shown great
in her selection, choosing only those that
( won their way to the heArt« of the Scottish
: and dwelt there. C, T. Ramage,
The Earlt Ekqlish MS. Cowtraction fob
Ffcsca.— Thi*j la either Jhc, Jhu, or Jhfi. We all
' now that the h got there from the Greek H for >/ ;
at the question is, how Early English scribes
lider9tiM>d the contraction, and how we ought to
»nd it, I have fdways maintained that if
) ecribes write in full, as they occasionally do,
s,"" we ought to cjcpand "Jhc" as " Jhf^a/'
"**Jha" as **JhMu.'' Some friends of mine
kf Ko : h was for c ; therefore write «, and expand
Jmis* Jtm, On the same principle, they would
BApive to alter all the early wrong ffpellings of proper
^Mtne« into the right ones. But, luckily, their
^^Koscience-^ are too good for that. As I have just
^Ket with two in<*tance8, in 14 lines, of the spelling
^P Jb«««s/* on leaf 72 of the Trinity MS, of the
" Eifly English Cwr^or Mundl, I print one here : —
" For ho mijt not fyude ihesus ....
So he wtiudG to de Jhegos . . , ."
I bave seen many similar instances in this and
'ler M8S5, F. J. Fctrnivall.
OUABDS OF CuAKhES I,— The question of
■frfMmq. fir at any rate a portion of them,
|73! I asylum in Barbadoea being raided
« V '.f(iT* I beg to offer the following
' tifcr^ncef : —
On the l£th May, 1639, the Lord Chamberlain
the King's troojw at a review. [CaL
jSerie-?, 1639, No. !fll.]
Uoughbydefen ' m person,
be poets day u. i attiK*ked
AyMcue. [Uluody ^twd frt^m the
; . *Mu]3. Cat., K. C.^5/10 ; Ayscue,
Broad A rrow, Ang. S, 15, 1871,
idiid^
1654, 883 f. 29 ; also Acta of Assembly of Barba-
does from 1648, B. Mus., 23 d. 3.1
Some Memoin of tJw Fird Sdthment of Barba-
dot% i*:iken from Anttctit Records (174)- — Brit.
Mu^,, 1196, b. 33. In the above work it appears
that none of the otticers mentioned as afterwards
in the King's Life Umuds and Foot GufU'ds were
then amongsi the inhabitants^ a list of whom is
given, t
In the Cat. Harl. MSS, are the following re-
ferences, which I have not examined : Barhadoes^
vol ii. 96, 1610, 133 ; 98, 1511, 33;— TF. L hlandsy
vol i. 345, 640, 36 ; vol. ii. 142, 1583, 59 ; 316,
1898, 5 ; vol. iii. 308, 5910^ 38 ; 370, 6494, 15.
I am myself inclined to believe that Lord Wil-
lougbby was accompanied or followed by a con-
siderable number of the troops in question ; and
that they were not local militia who bo severely
repulsed Sir George Ayscue's first atttick on Car-
lisle block-bouse. Sir Geoi^e himself bears testi-
mony to the remarkable gallantry of the opposing
force. There wag evidently great esprit ne corps
amongst the latter. J. U. L. A.
A Feat of Memory : —
'*On tho occasion of Professor Pawcett's speech at
Brighton the other day, the report of which occupied
moTo than two c<>lumna of the ScoLnman, a curious
instance i?aa afforded of memory such as ii not olt«,'a
equalled. A gentleman who went down to Brighton in
order to report the speech for fourteen newspapers c&Ued
upon the Frofeesor some time before its deliveryj and.
explaining the natore of his buainesi, re{|ueBted the
fjivour of a statement of the principal points of the
speech. Professor Fawcett very courteously propo«cd
not only to give him the subitance of his speech, but to
rehearse the whole of it for him. This be did, luad the
reporter took it down. Later on, while the speech
proper was being delircred, the origimil copy made at
the rehearsal was checked over word for wora, and from
beginning to end; so perfectly had the speech been
committed to memory, there was not one aingle mistake,
except thut in one place a word was substituted for ita
tquivalent in the noUa^^^—SeoUman,
Ferliapa " N, & Q." may not object to preserve
the above extract quoted in a London paper :—
" Fiiwcdl, an haeo oliiii meminiBSc jurabit"
F. Phillott.
*'The Old is Betteh,"— Not altogether for our
own sakei^ for we are ourselves growing old, and
will soon remove to other scenes, bat for the sake
of the generations to come, it i:^ very painful to
witness how increasingly the gaudy is tikking the . -
place of the neitt, the showy of the mm^i, and ob- jMJmi^
trasive decoration of modest refinement. Without ' *'
\ioiuff into other questions,— and there are many
such*^ in which I feel a lively interest,— to prove
my point, I would sunply, in this note, refer to the
style in which our books are got up. Compare
f Tljia fact is, to some extent, confirmatory of R. C,*s
argument about Robert Archer (Provost- Marshal of the
Army in Earbadoci in 167S : ee« " ^* &^ ^^1* tvRiix.
ixtdk^
266
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[fi* 8. IL Oct. S, '
Pickering's Aldine Edition of the Poets— pmjer,
type, Lindin^, the absence of tawdry illustrations,
iUid all — willi any recent editions of the Rame
authors, and my ineaoing Ls at once made plain.
There is an Auieriain poet in whoae worka I
take great delight, — Longfellow ; but I cannot buy
any new copy of his poems, without beinjj
offended with a glaring cover and a number of
ridiculous wooflcuts, which do not at all Ci>nvey
the sense of the text. Or if I want to give ii
present of Milton, or Pope, or Cowper, the same
result nieet« me. Why should these things be i
Has the ago grown hopelessly vulgar, or is there
any prospect of a return to the sterling, quiet,
subatantiiil, unpretending excellence of our fore-
fathers I J. W. W.
Game op Cricket, Name of, —
" T^d'h, ^y\ltli do jou call it, when the ball, sir, hits
**FHhon. Why, out.
" Tut<h. Even i» ftm 1 ; out, out of all Lope ever to
come In to crown my po^r age at Lis table."
Two Matds oj Mou-clach ^leot*), p. 32.
This passage points to the inference that a
critikci, or stool with four legs (see Nares, ,?. r.),
served in early times for wickets, and that thence
came the name of the game. F* J. V.
Charles Lamb. — In Mr. Carew Hazlitt's re-
cently publiBhed work^ Mary and Cluirks Lamb
(p, 106)^ there is mention of a MS. dialogue in
I Hazlitt's handwriting ** between Lamb and himself
I on the question whether people take an interest in
L^ood for its own sake." ^Ir. ( ". HazHtt does not
: seem to be aware that this piece hsia been printed
Ljind forms part of tSk^khes and Eisai/iSy hj JVillmm
' Hadiii^ colkdctl by hU Sori^ Load. 1839, A. und
B. are the chief interlocutors, and D. i?, I suppose,
meant for Ljunb. The quotation from Hairt/ JV.
given by Mr. U Hazlitt—
*V. L, Thia JBthe strangest tale that o'er I heard.
C» L. It 15 tlifl strangest fellow, brother John."
— forma the concliii*inn of the dialo^e in its printed
form, but the initials iire here given as J. D. and
C. D. If Mr. Hazlitt is right in conjecturing this
quotation to refer to ** something which appears to
have passed between Charles and John Lainb^*'
there m of course some probability that the dialogue
was not entirely im:tginar)\ While upon the
subject of Charles Lamb, may I ask if it 13 known
who wrote the sketch of t)yer in the Public
Charaeterw of 17»8-9 t Was it Lamb ?
C. Elliot Buowxb.
John Locke and the Quakers. — In a pam-
phlet issued by one of the Society of Friends
there m a letter by John Locke, which is a rather
J ciirioua jumble of sweetmeats and sanctity. As it
*• ia shorty and has not been included in his Life,
perhaps you will find a comer for it :—
** A Letter from the cftlobratod John Lockn to B«b
ColHcr and lUchael Brecken.
'^Gtmys Irui, Nor, 21 «t, KOI
"My Sweet Friendf,— A Paper of fliTcctm^ats by I
bearer, to attend your journey, come« to teitify
sweetness I found in your society. 1 admire uo ccmti
more than that of Christian freedom ; I fear 1
like that of pride and prejudice ; I now see acqa
by eight cannot reacu the heii^bt of eiyoymei
nCfiuaintance by knowledge arrivet to:— outward I
may misguide ub, bnt internal knowledge canitut
We have aomething thereof what we shiiU haTij bena
to know, »n we we known, and tbu« we, with ourcfc]
friendi^j, were even at the first view mutual partakei
and the more there is of thia in the life, the le** we ne(
enquire of what Country, Nation, Party, or Penuaaioii
our Friends are'f for our own knowledge in more mst
than another's is for ua ; thua ' we know whom wt bare
believed/
" Now the God of alt grace grant that you
faet that rare grace of Lore and Charity— tmtia
unbounded lore which, if it decay not, will
mightily, m the waters of the inner saTjctunrjr;
nnd higher, till you, with the tttii¥er»al Ch'tv
tO(^elherin the ocean of Divine love. Womand
had the himuur first to publish the resurrection \
ilod of lore, — why not again the reeurrectioa i
«|>irit of love 1 And let all the disciplet of our !
rejoice therein, as doth your partner, Jottis Loccx
"[The a bore letter wae eeiit to Bebeccn Co
Mectinj? in Loudon, with a paper of su-
another for her companion. The great
was at the Meeting, and took particuiar uutice c^
them/j"
I add the full title of the tra.
appear to be in Smith's Quaker h'
*' A Copy of a Letter from a Clergyimtu iu Etigiaud^
Pfttiencc lirayton ; to which is added a Letter from^
celehfiited Joha L<>cke to Rebecca Collier and Ra *
Hrecken ; and abo Reflections on Death. Cb«
Trinled by T. Oriffitli, Bridge Street. 1823."
This letter, although unimjjortant, is not 1
interest, as showing the great philosopbe
Platonic flirter with two fair friends. It
abo seem to show that he liad some diawin
towjirds the Quakers. WrLLiAM E. A. Ajtosc.]
Eusholms.
The Coursk of the Nile. —
*' Vere ergo Nilus ex hoc priorc lacr. f ' ' 12 j
situs est versus At I tare tic um Polum, c and
altissimt montea Ca'fates dicti, Aphron;
fodloit clari. Descendit turn per 4CK) luiii. lu Mtitij
trionem, aliumque lacum subit, quern Maiii rocabuioj
magnitudincm iuoolic dignantur. L;ttitudio
pTtihcndit 220 mill, sob linea titus. De fa
ccrdores nos facere Auiichaui Congitanig vicini 1
merctie iisdem noti. Addunt iidom hoc in L&cii l.
cjei^ere quoe narigiis utatur, scrihere norit, tnt^ttiuram 1
pondera sciat, sedilicla ex lapide et c?»i " ^K-vK.^i^tjH '
Coagitanifl peregrino. Qua ex re propii
Johannts ternn considerari potest. 1
dicto lacu Nilus in Merotn teodit m)|
iatulnim Incumque 240 mill, nostratiuvi 1
alii tiurii procurrunt, ncmpe Aumeu <. .. j
limttes Meliudjo Bitum. Circa Meroeu ^xivm
ramoe abit, ierramque aJtiorem Meroe dictam^
Ad dextrmm Meroas reraus onentem aiunis i
oritur ex laca Bracloa iendens juxt* Pr»abyt«ri Jo
p»g.n.0c».i7ii
NOTES AND QUERIES.
267
insulam frupradicUni. A Bmiatra alii rivi
^ „ _*r quoe Sambco citatuTf fluviua nui le in
i iiem exonomt per iBthiopiam delaUUp tfyse Nil us
odam circa Sienes inmilam e pnecipiti cataractiL
^tM»to itropitu ut Ticiois populia uuditum imminaat
' fttetnque qimmJiim couimuo tinnttu mreraL iSgyptus
I eum Buscipit, patrem &c faecuriditate uberi gratis*
i; htuic rig&t ac per ostiA multiplioia elatus Mare
rvneam subti. Ofltionunduo prseclarisBima «UDt ;
nempe, qaod diei tmiu« itiner« ab Alexandria
et Pelofiii mine Damiatos. ErKo conclusione
_ iacr^metito Nili ^gypti, ac Zftiri In CongiUno
__Q0» Niiriquc in ^Ethiopia catuani dant eodem pene
lefRpofe coDtinai tmbres per menAca quinque in Ooogo
^ii^qiie Tictnioribas terris decidui. *
The above extract is taken from the work of
'. u, the Dutch voysiger, a Latin translation
was printed in 1599. I have a copy in a
Li'd State, owing to a tire. There fire several
arious old maps and other interesting pktes.
omc of your readers may like to compare the
te extract with the accounts of 8peke, Boilon,
T.ivin -sfnne, and Sir Samuel Baker. The
to Odoardo Lupo» a Portuguese, aa
Ifi K H. A.
jyf% must requcit correBpondenia desiring information
I lAcaUj matters of only prirate interest, to af&x their
I and addreaiei to their queries, in order that the
I may be addressed io thiBm direct,]
Blaeu's* Atlas.— On Blaew's'*^ Map of the Ork-
- ^ ^ ^iUiThentmm (}rhu Tirranim^ tive Allan
rUra Va. AniBtela?damj, apud I, Blaev,*
opposite the cape on the west coa^t of
iland of Hoy, called by him ** Rora Head
f",^' but on modern maps Eoray Head, there h
I note : — **Tl)e Stour wher buildet that excellent
foul called the Lyer." I shall be glad to know
Vhat ihii* eea bird is which seems to nave been so
nuch thought of.
The infonnation given in moat of the maps of
he Highknds and west cf)aat of Scotland in this
arions old Atlas is Btated to he on the authority of
' noth. Pont. When the wild state of the Higb-
nds at the beginning of the seventeenth century
\ remembered, the general accuracy of the details
pricing. One is inclined to ask how did
Pont get his information, for it is not
tit to imagine the sort of reception he would
ely to nieet with had he presented himself in
' ■ is of the Macgregors, or Macleods, or
hes, with the surveying chains, levelling
other instruments, with the drawings
L And *^ GuUjelmiia Bbieu " ornament
Tliat he is not always trustworthy, may be seen
^efensncc to his map of Kin tyre (CmUyra
^ rta, Chntyr a Dtmie-ylnnd)^ where Loch
in tome plaoea little over half a mile in
~% ^Rkfi nftme li spelled both ways in the Atlas.
breadth, according to Keith Johnston is shown as
an anil of the seit, many miles broad. In this
case, and in some others, I'imotby must have gone
by hearsay* Any particulars regarding this Timoth*
Pont would, I think, be interesting.
A. FBRorssoN.
United Service Club, Edinburgh,
Geoege IV.^I have lately been told by an oKl
gentleman that it is a mistake to suppose that
King George IV. died without illegitimate isEite.
He informs me that his father-in-law (now dead),
ft gentleman well acquainted with some members
of the hidy's family, told him many years ago that
George IV., when a young man, hatl been aipti-
vated by a beautiful Jewess, and that the result
was the young lady gave birth t4> a son. This son,
it appears, was passed ofl' aa the child of a poor
Jew, who had charge of him, and no doubt thi«
was done to save the " fair fame " of the mothers
family, who are Siiid to have been people of great
weiiith and eminent position in London, in the
latter part of the eighteenth and beginning of the
nineteenth centuries. My friend says that an
allusion to **tho captivation of the prince by a
pretty Jewess " is made in some memoir, but he
cannot remember the name of the publicjition.
Can you, or any of your readers, give me the title
of the memoLr alluded to i Or perhaps some one
who sees this letter may be able to alfortl some
information on the subject. There is a rumour
that the son of the prince enlisted aa a soldier,
attained high rank as an officer, and died greatly
respected* The whole history, its I have heurd it,
is quite romantic ; but as the lady's family very
naturally hushed up the affair, and mystified mat-
ters, it is probable that it may be difficult to prove
it. Perhaps, however, some light may be thrown
on the interesting history by some of your readers.
Ever Inquisitive.
MissAJL. — I want information of a Missal I
have, printed, so far as I can nuike out, by
Joannis Winterburgcr, in the yt^ar 1512, at Vienna.
The following is Lis rhyme of hiniaelf and hm
mark: —
" Signa Tides lector: hjliema ex aree Joimnis
Anguineafi inter jaeulum atnentabile spiral.
Anguls ut etatem : carioaaA illo litoraa
Comiti in invidiam gerit artia tela decorem.^
I confess to being unable to make these lines
quite intelligible to myself, I should say that the
text of the Mis.Hiil puzzles me most. It is unlike
any with which I have compared it. I shall be
glad to show it to any one learned in old editions
of the Missal j to write some of its peculiarities
would take up a great deal too much of your space.
PRoxrNciATiON.^Howshoidd the words hfavm^
prayer f mtre, be pronounced in singing or chant-
ing— as if one or two syUables ( IcL, fi^*^ *
^^^^tfbtflfi^AH
NOTES ANB QUERIES,
t5tt&ILOcT*S,74
DAR.'^ — An inquiry as to th* poet's birthplace
appeared in **N. & Q." !■* S. iL 410, jmd the
Editor, on the authority of Cunningrham'a Hand-
Ihook of London^ stated that he wrta l>om at 24,
[Holies Street (Cavendish Square). In aevenU
f biographical works this street is mentioned as the
locm in quo, but without the number. In the Life
by J. W. Lake, prefixed to the Paris edition of the
poet's works (1828), the place of birth is stated to
I 06 Dover. In the sinnhrrsarif Calendar ^ Natal
1^00^ and UniixrsaJ Mirror^ 2 vok. Stro. Lond.
j1832t under date 22nd January, Loudon (only)
appears, but a ? followg. The compiltT of this
work poasessed a wonderful fund of infomiation,
and he must have had some doubt, I therefore
ask, where was the iioet born ? I have some faint
HBooUection of having been told several yeai3 since
that the compiler of the kust-nientioned work was
I a gentleman named Dixon. Can and will any of
your readers inform me ? Geo. White,
St Briaveri, £piom.
Chklssa. — Passing by the old parish church of
Chelsea, a short time since, I entered into conver-
iaation with an old man, who, amongst other things^
■ told me that he used to live in Lewis Buildings,
Lawrence Street^ adjoining Cheyne Row. When,
and by whom, were Lewis Builmngs erected (they
iiave been pulled down) i Vim there any family
raamed Lewis connected with Chelsea in the seven-
lleeiith century, or does the name occur in the
ppofish register prior to 17tX) ? S,
Clock- Striking, — In passing throiij^h Ham-
hxxTg I observed that the clock in the lofty tower
L of St. Michael's Onirch strikes each hour three
times. For example, when nix o'clock h past, at
I a (marter past six, it strikes one for the quarter,
I and then seven times ; and at half-past it strike*^
Itwo, and then seven ; but singularly at three-
I quarters past it strikes three only ; then at seven
[ly'clock it strikes four for the qnarters, and then
I^Beren. Are there any other clocks that strike like
this ? And why does it not strike seven at the
three-fjuartera past 1 Josun MiLL»n, M.A.
Berlin,
*' IlBaAcLiTPS RiiiBKs at a Dialogue between Jost and
EamcBt coDcerning the Tiroes t London^ printed for 6.
Tooke, No. 1, Feb. 1, 1681, to No. 82 (aad lft«t ?), 16S2."
Who wjw the author or editor of this single-
leaf iveekly publication 1 Is it of any curiosity or
authority ? H» Y,
Camso I Iin'AaLio.— Abont the word intafflia
there ca¬ bo a doobt, cither as to its meaning
I or derivation ; and with the conventional meaning
I of camr4} we are equally fiLmiliar ; but whenr
lit derived? From the Italian cammtowe <i
no information as to its origin. Whence Li>,.x. -
the Italian word I I aAk, as usual, to be informed
by some of the valuable contributors to a work Ui
which I have never b^en disappointed inapMaliij^
W. ifiLT.
TnE Peerage and Baronetage,— In Umiavf
and Dietrichsen's Almanack, the annual pablscfltiott
of which is now discontinued, the peuragrt were
enumerated according to their cnEttlion. and
simihirly with the baronetcies and knighthooda,
This showed at a glance the number of ereatiow
of each in each reign, la there 'imtiaa
that gives the information in Uu >
JNAi^rwicH.
CoKDORUs, Earl of Cobjtwall, —
the arms (if any) of Condoms, last Saxon
Cornwall? Burke's ^nwory does not giv
I thank HERMENTRunR for having kindly stmt
the FitZ'AIan pedigree, W. O. TAUxroy.
" A MoDRRir Account of Scotlajid,*' Ac—
This is apampWet n^ > ^ -^ - T ■ ' » -- - V^-^^ -
poem on the same :
for J. Roberts in Wt*. .. -. x. - x..
In ink, upon title-page, "Datt 1
By Defo***'' I shall feel obliged by - „ ifd
if the dat« and authorship are rightly stated, i
if the pamphlet is of any rarity, J*
Fak Manufacturers.— About l77iK a :
detder in, or maker of, fans lived on Ludgate II
named Clarke. Are there any records of him in I
historical or an artistic point of view 1 8t. Cj
Symhul in Stajned Glassl— %V1bat is
meaning of the following symbol, which ap
in painted ghi#<» in the cast window of the d
at Whitchurch, near Stratford-on-Avon, rii.,J
human head with the tongue ban^iig out of 1
mouth ? There is one on either side. I cano
tell the date, but it is ancient, B. P.
Sir Francis Swift is reported to have been 1
staunch royalist m the turbulent times of Clmrieff
To what family did he beJoog I W. Winters.
Waltham Abbey.
JoHKL DB ToTNEfi.— Where can I procure ]
authentic account of this individual and his
scendants, also of his Dossessionji uiul what I
of them I Was he a Nonnari ^^^ • ^^
the Conqueror, or was ho a '"-
of this country before the Con , ... :
The Crescent, Bedford.
Disraeli's ** Tancrro,'' Book Vt. ('
Is the beautiful description of Tancn
the Que- • " ^
that re 1 1
iigio7t.
vc, and
.. .. ...acy to M;i , x . .
As the latter has be^ pn
]
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
269
TaTicroL it would be interesting to know how fur
the r^im^ Mini£^ter has anticipated Max MiiUer iu
hii. *' new " science.
G, Laurence (]rOMja^
SRVK^fTBEyTH-CENTURT T0KRN8. — W, Bayiie»
in ) ' rruble work on these tokens, deacribes
lb. , which he attributes to Penkridgie, in
jfiiMiirf, viz* : —
. — loan . PircLLiPCs.— The Mercers* Arms. (In the
field.)
Ber. — tB . PACBiiKjjE , 16d5.— HIS - bai^ . pikt.
Ah t1i4. ^|x^ctmen in my pofise^ion distinctly
rt? rDUE» may not the pkce of issue be
in I St. Hancraa, Panend^ being a cor-
FUption i ^I'nlt' Tbnbs's Curiosilies of London^
pp, I Wand 'j.-^tK) HKsar Christie,
KoGKR DK QtJtNCY, brother of Robert and son
of Seiher by Margai'et, daughter of Robert de
Mellent. How can this be reconciled with the
ViUiiu of Matilda do OoIIund to the manor of Hals
(Pltcita f/t Quti H'aranto, p, 550)? She traces
from Koh«?n do Mehm, Earl of Leicester, through
AmuiiJ nnd Cecliiajhia daughters find heirs ; from
t ]' ^ rf, son and heir ; from Robert to
\il , Bon and heir; from Roger to
«i....^..»>.. .Old heir^ &c., aa if Amicia, not
Margaxet, were wife of Seilier, and Roger hie
gnuid^n. B. R.
Fnmxcn Bbpuoeks. — How can I obtain infor-
mation respecting thoae who came over to Ireland
in the reign of William IIL, relative to their
iKUneH, the gi-ants made to them, &c. ? H. B.
oblij^ for a I
Wrr
Ts/* — I should lie much
kU of the *' 5Pt t of the Caleu-
occui-8 in Charles Liimb'B
l„.l... ..,1.1 :„ fftith, did vou
^Tnjftn ? You
-J aect of the
CiltntUiisU,* — ' All FwA's LuVr" Euaifg ef MUa^ by
diarka Lunh, p, 55, new edit., 1868.
O* H.
VlOLAHTX, YOLAKTK, loLAXTHA, loLXKT.— Are
bti6 f^tiUj ooly different forms of the same female
Mml J. Woodward*
XoRifUjff Family. -If Z. Z. {^^ S. ii, 113) can
■- ' p any information respecting " Rosina lilaria
and "Mr?. Zomlin/' who wrote at the
■^ this century, I Bhall he much obliged
e to me, Owhar Hahbt.
FoAT-OFncK MoKET Ordkrs lie 170L— Lack-
the booksdJer, writes on the subject as
Jin lli« country fmrnd it difficult to rcmil imall
I wore lindcr bunkers' noU», wlucU difficutly is
uDw done aivfty, as th«; poat-maaiers receive emjdl lumi
of money, and give drafts for (he s&ooe on the poet-oSice
in LoDdon."
What was the sj-'st^m and the scale of ch&i^ges ?
George Ellis.
St John's Wood.
JoHJT Weslzt's Edttioit of Thomas a
Kempis, — Some time since I boujfht a book, of
which there is not a copy in the Boilleian, nor ia it
mentioned by Lowndes: —
" An Extract of the Christi&n'g Pattern ; or, a Treatise
on the Imitfttion of Christ. Written in Latin, by Thomoa
ii KempiR. AbriJgcd and published in English by John
We»ley, M,A., London. 17»3."
It ifl in Hvo. sheets, but is only 4 by 24 inches
in Hize. Pp. 97, 98 are wanting. There is a Pre-
face on the manner of using the book. Will any
one feYOur me with a transcrijit of the mining
leaf? Ed. Marshall,
Sondford 8t. Martin, Oxon.
PINA SILVER.
(5«» S. ii. 168.)
Having passed many years of my life in Chili
and Peru, I have seen ihaplatajnha manufactured.
It is thus : the silver ore having been crushed to a
pulp in li mill reitembling a mortar mill on an iron
or granite *oi«TO, is then transferred to a cylinder
with four radial anna revolving inside of it, and a
stream of water running into it ; a certain quantity
of salt and quicksilver its then thrown into the
mass, and the. muddy or earthy particles haYing
been washed out at the top of the cylinder, or
barrel, the mercury takes up the sdver particlefl
which settle at the bottom, and ia conYertea into an
amaJgum. This amalgam is then put into iron
mould-, 'ly six inches across the bottonii
three n <^ the top, and nine inches liW
intemjili}, "i an hexagomd shape, having a stmrn
hole at the lesser end ; the amalgam is beaten in at
the big end with a wooden mtiUet, and the excess of
mercury falls through ut the small end into an
earthen pot to receive it ; the mould hi then luted
at the bottom, over an iron plate, with clay, an
inverted tube luted over the hole at the top, its
lower end reaching down into a vessel of water,
and a strong cbarcoid iire apphed all round the
mould. By this means the mercury is evaporated
and condensed in the water, and, after a certain
time, known to the manipulator by experience,
the fire is extinguished, the tube removed, and,
when cold, the contents of the mould shook out ; a
moss of spongy silver, called plaia piltiiy or, more
pro{>erly, piita (pronounced pecn-yii\ fr»>m itR
refieinblance in shape somewhat to a nine-apple. In
this porous state, it will imbil*e a large quantity
of water, and, to pre Yen t fraud in thid respect^ it
270
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[s*aii. ocT.3,tt
is now generally melted down into 2^^^i'<* barra,
and exported to Europe in this sbape. In steameiB
I have comnmnded on tho west coast of South
America, I have carried^ from time to time, many
tons of ailver, both " pina " nnd " barra," from the
intermediate ports, both to Callao (Lima) and Yid-
paiuiao (Chili), representing millions sterling. When
the Duke de Pakta wits apjwinted Viceroy of Peru,
the streets through which he passed on his entry
into Lima were hteraHy paved with bars of ailver,
valued at some sixteen millionB sterling, which
had been collected ready to ship on botird the
nert galleon, vid Panama, for Spain, and the
commonest utensils were formerly made of silver.
George Peacock,
Pioneer of Siemm N&vigatiDD in the Pacific.
The following extract is from E. Chambers's
Cyclopedia , . * of Art* and SeienceSf 2nd edit.,
1738:—
" Pinea, or Pine, in commcpce, a term ui©d in Pery
and Chili, for a kind of light, poroaa maMea or lompi,
formed of a miiture of tnercurvand tilver-duBt from the
mines. . . . The c»re or mineral of silTer, being dug out
of the veins of the mine, 10 first broke, then ground in
mills for the piirpoBe» driven by water with iron peitles
of two hundred pound weight The mioeral thus pul-
verized i« next aifted, then worked up with water iiito a
jMtt/e, wliich^ when half dry, is cut into pieces called
euerpo'jt, a foot long, weighing each ahout two thouAand
five hundred pounds. Each cuerpo is again kneaded up
with Bea-calt, which dlBaalving incorporates with it.
They then add mercuryj from ten to twenty punda for
each cuerpo, kneading the paste a^freah until the mer-
cury be incorporated therewith. Thii office being ex-
ceedinglj dangerom, by reason of the noxioua qiialitiei
of the mercury, is the lot of the poor Indiana. . . . Thia
aiQnIgamation is continued for eight or nine days : fl<»me
add iimet lead, or tin ore, &c.| to forward it; and in eome
minea they are obliged to use fire. To try whether or
no the mixture and amakamatlon be aufficient tbe^
wash a piece in water, ana if tbe mercury b« white it
hfia had iti efect, if hlack it must be further worked.
When enough it is sent to the lavrntories; which are lea^e
buofu that empty euccosaively into one another. The
panto, kc, being laid in the uppermost, the earth is tlien
washed from it into the reat by a rirulet turned upon it,
an Indian all the while stirring it up with hia feet, and
two other Indians doing the like in the other basons. , . .
"When the water runa quite clear out of the baaona
they find the niercurv and silver at bottom^ incorporated.
Thia matter they ciJl petta, and by thii they form tho
phuas hy expressing as much of tho mercury aa they
can ; first by putting it in woollen bajgs atid pressing and
beating it strongly; then by stamping it in a kind of
wooden mould of an octagonal form at bottom, whereof
is a braas plate nleroed full of Utile boles.
" The matter being token out of the mould ia laid on a
trivet, under which ia a Large vessel full of water ; and
the whole heing covered with an earthen head, a fire
ia made around it.
'* The mercury still remaining in the maaa ta thus re-
duced into fumes, and at length condensing is precipitated
into the wat^r, leaving behind it a maaa of silver grains
of different figures, which, only Joining or touching at
the extremes, render the matter very porous and tight.
•* Thia, then, is pinea* or pwna which the workmen
end^aTour to sell secretly to the vessels trading to the
South Sea ; and from which thoae who have ventured to
angage in so dangerous a commerce have made such Tast .
gatns. Indeed the traders herein must be verr canfol^l
for the Spanish miners are errant knaves, and to mak» ]
the p\gntM weigh more make a practice of fiUiog ika
middle with sand or iron."
Mabel Phacock,
Bottesford Manor, Bngg.
Pina silver ia silver in the shape of a wi^ loaf, J
a form which it a^iimes during the process of the !
aepumtioQ of the pure metal from the ore, and J
before cast into bars, when it is as.sayed at thai
king's stAinping hou^, and a mark set ■
uccording to its fineneBS. This may )><
from a work in great estimation^ On th>. _
and Moral History of tM East and HV^f i»di«r,J
by Joseph d^Acosta, the original editions of whic^
were published at Seville in 1590, 4to«, and
Barcelona in 1591, 8vo.
After describing (cap. v* d teq,) the differenil
stages of tho purilication of tlie ore, by means t
heat, Wiishing in water, and the partial eicpiilsioa
of the quicks Uver by the pressure of the ma& '
cloth, the author proceeds to state that —
*' The rest of the ma*a» in form lile a tuffttr tpaf^ 1
coTered with an earthen pan of thai Jkapt; and a||rea
firo haTiofj^ been kindled around it, all the quicksilvtttl
runt) out at a pipe, aa distilled water from a lembick, and
the silver remains in tkt tavie tkapi, sknd of the MOte
bulk, but in weight less by four-fifths, and <*/( IxH a
which explains how the water wa« *^8oked Mid
gott into a part of the Pina* silver."
William Platt.
CoDservatife Club.
"The Arch-^ological Epistle to
MiLLEs" (5tt» a ii. 15t), 251.)— I am in II ]
to state most confidently that Tht Ardux^
Epistk was written by John Baynes, My auti
is that learned and accurate scholar, the late Fi
Douce J who had known Baynes intimately, '•
always spoke of him in the highest terms.
member his once repeatrog to m© a dictum '
Baynes's on the sin of publishing a book witho(
an index. Lord Campbell would, I believe, hav
been contented with hanging the otfender ; not 1
John Baynes, whose judgment went far beyoo
this. Those who rememoer my venerable fner
and know the ore rottmdo with which he delivc
the following Shanda^an curse, will readily believd
that every shelf in that beautiful Ubnu^ in Gow«^
Street trembled at the sound :— " Sir,*' Job*
Baynes used to say, " Sir, the man who pub
a book without jm index ought to be damn6
thousand miles beyond hell, where the devill
get for stinging nettles I ^
Mr. Hemming's query, and the replies of yoti
correspondentSi have served to recall to tny 1
• Pina, in Spanish, signifies '*any itone, ttakfi *
other thing like a sugar-lotif/'
«»an.ocT.3,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
271
I
tDimy pleftsajit hours spent in that " perfection of
ft library " nt the foot of the Gumaliel who had
formed it, and many good and ripe scholars, whose
2icqiiaiDtAn6e it was my good fortune to make
within its walk during the seven years from 1827
to 1834, when I was a privileged visitor to it.
Amoni* these were the late Mr, Singer, whom,
he told me» ^* N. & Q/* called from a literary
ment which had lifted many years ; Sir
kcifl (then Mr.) Palgrave ; the late ^Ir. James
He^ood Markknd ; Sir F. Miidden ; Sir Henry
Ellis, then, as to the end of hia long and useful
life, full of information and racy anecdote ; and last,
though not least, one who contributed in no small
dcigree to caD forth that spirit of historical investi-
gation which has characterized English literature
during the last half century, — I mean the learned
author of The Ouiio^itie^ of Litcraiure,
I first saw Mr. D'lsraeli in Gower Street about
1S27, and my last interview with him was in the
libmry of the Athena^um, in the aiimmer of 1839.
Two incidents have served to fix that interview
strongly in my memory. The Jii-atwus the warm and
drttt^ring manner in which he, a Nestor in litera-
ture, waa kind enough to speak to me, a mere tyro
in Dook-w*ork, of a little volume which I had just
edited for the Camden Society, and showed his
earnestness by urging me to bring out a second
Tolume, and pointing out where I might find
some materials for it. The Bceond, which has a
special and painful interest for me at this time,
was his describing to me the peculiar form
which the loss of .night, with which he waa shortly
after visited, was at that time assuming.
William X Thoks.
BorBLE Christian Names (S**" S. IL 226.) —
Ward, referring to a query in the Fall Mall
_^ ^ -of loth August, in which a case is cited as
Fmentioned in 1680, and the question is put, ** What
is tJie earliest example of a double Christian name
^Sngland i " asks for further notes. I find several
of double Christian name, or double sur-
one surname being used as a Christian
name, though very possibly not given to the child
to church at the time of baptisuu I believe thait
•odi nami^s were much commoner than is supposed ;
'r thrit r]HA- have commonly been omitted by the
Makers, The first case is that of Sir
uent FLiher, of Packington» in the
Warwick, born somewhere in the six-
Iltury. The next are the son and grandson
'mhf!T I>ilke of Shustoke, in the county of
iWarwick, who was bom in 1595. He married .
lEybil Wimtwortb, and his son was called " Fisher ;
|I>ilke, otherwi«*e Wentworth,** of Wobton, in the
Icoiinty of WarwicliL He was born probably about
ll63ci The grandson is eddied Fisber Dilke Went-
lihe pedigrees. He was born in 1655, and
Iftt^ustoke. b.
The subject of early double Christian names was
discussed in Malone's Inquiry concerning Ireland's
Shiikspeare forgeries, 1796, Svo. pp. 226, et acq.,
where he says, and gives reasons, **that in the
beginning of the last [seventeenth] century, and
long afterwards, persons of the first rank in Eng-
knd were contented with one Christian name."
Ho was evidently not aware of what appears to. be
one exception. " Many of the English Bibles,
printed from 1578 to 1620 and after, are supple-
mented by ** Two Right Profitable and Frvitefvll
Concordances Collected by R. F. H." The
Preface is dated and signed " this xxij of December,
Anno Domini 1578. Thine in the Lord, Robert
F. Henry.'* Thomas Kerslakk.
BriBtoh
In an article on " Parish Registers," by R, E. C.
Waters, reprinted from the Honue and Foreign
EemtiCj it is stated that " Henry Algernon, fifth
Earl of Northumberland, whose household book is
well known to antiquarians, was bom January 13,
1477-8, and his double name appears on his garter
plate in St. George's Chapel." Mr. Waters's
essay, full of curious information vivaciously con-
vey^, is well worth reading. The folly of re-
duplication of Chrisftian names became manifest
when such an entry as the following appeared : —
"Burbago, Wilts, 1?S1. Charks CaracUcas Ostorius
Maximilian Gustaviu AdolphuSj sod of Charles StonPj
tailor, bftpt. 2SJ April"
That tailor must have imagined a glorious future
for his son with the sesquipedalian name.
Mortimer Collins,
Knowl Hill, Berks.
**AcLD Robin Gray^' {5^ S. iL 205.)— The
remarks of C. on this subject require some qualifi-
cations and additions to present the actual facts of
the cQ£e.
His general statement seems to imply that the
btdlad was not originally written with reference to
an existing air, but was first set to music by Mr.
Leevcs forty years after the words were written.
This is not correct. The circumstaoces ore fiilly
set forth in a letter from the authoress, Lady Ann
Lindsay (then Lady Ann Barnard), to Sir Walter
Scott, in 1624, printed with the song by the Banna-
tyne Club. The song was wTitten with special
reference to an old Scottish air, ** The bridegroom
greits when the sun gaes down," the worda of
which were rather coarse. Lady Ann was pas-
sionately fond of this melody. She says, '^I longed
to sing old Sophy's air to different words, and give
to its plaintive tones some little history of virtuous
distress in humble life such as might suit it,'' &c.
Hence the beautiful ballad, which has touched
with a tender feeling thousands of hearts from that
day to this.
For forty years it was eung to the oci^nskl ^\ \
272
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[ip 8. n. ocf:s,^
bub it must be acknowledgetl that Mr. Le^ves's
melody baa worthily supenseiled it.
The old air, however, is usually snag to the first
i»tikn)ia m an introductioti to the theme, and will
generally be found preiixcd to the publii?hed copies
of the music, I am not aware that it iy any new
discovery that Mr. Leevea was the composer of the
modern air. It will be found usually attached to
any notice of the song : see the Book of Scoiiuh
ahttg^ published by Messrs. Blackie & Son, 1840.
J. A, PlCTOK.
BAndjknowe^ Wavcrtree.
It may interest C, or other readers of " N. & Q.,"
to know that the ballad Auld Bobin Gray wa«
originally sung to an old Scotch air, called The
Bridegroom GraL I fjincy Mr. Leeves'« air is
not the only one that, without any real claims, is
popukrly supposed to be Scotch. To cite one
i;aseT the present muaie to lyithin a MiU of Edin-
burgh Town was composed by Mr. James Hook^
of Norwich, the father of Theodore Hook. Here,
too, as in AtUd Mobin trray, there is an older air^
modt probably Scotch, now seldoiu, if ever, sung.
W. J. AIacadaj*.
Althorpe Bottd^ Upp€r Tooting.
The Americak States : IVfAiKE (5**» S. ii. 82,
174.) — In an article copied into ** K. & Q./'
August lat, it is stated that *' Maine was so
called, as early a5 1633, from Maine in France, of
which Henrietta Maria, Queen of England, w;i8 at
that time proprietor.'*
This derivation is very frequently given as the
true one, but it is evidently wrong, us Mr, Tuttle
has proved in an article 'priuted in the Bodon
Evining Tnmsrripl^ June 8, 1872, from which I
make the following' extract : —
"The name of Maine was firat authoritatiTely and
deliberutoly applied to that part of tbe State lyiD^f west
of the Kennebec RiTer in the charter of the great
Counoil for New Enj^land, granting thi** territory to Sir
Ferdioando Gorgee nntl Captain J^jlm >la»on, dated
August iO, 1622. In this churter it is Atyled the ' Pro-
vince of Maine/ This event was nearly two years
before the Princef^ Henrietta Martu of Prunes was
tbooght of foi' a wife to Prince Charles of England. At
the time thia name was inserted in the chttrter, a mar-
rtage treaty was pending, and had been for some years,
between the Courts of England and fc^tmin, having U\r
its object the marriage of Prince Charles and the Infanta
Maria, daughter of Philip III. of Spain. A niRrriiigo of
these royal partiea Wiw expected until early In the ycjir
lti-4. it is clear from tbis luid other circu nut anees that
could be mentioned, that tbe nfiudng of Maine liad
nothing to do with Henrietta Maria of France^ as alleged.
1 1 mny add, in this connection, that I expect to «how» in
\my Liffof CapUiin John Matrnt, ioon to go to press,
th»t tbia Spanifih Infanta wm deeignedly complimented
about tbia time in the naming of a district in New Etig-
luud, granted by the great council a curioua fact over-
looked by bUtoriaas.
"It itoemf rciijonably certidii that tbe State of Maine
owei its name to no European state, province, or peraon-
%^ hot to ita own unique geographical features. Years
before the name appeared in this charter to Ooriges i
Maaon, ita territory, or t\>.> Vtn.^nA i^^rf .,i ;« w^ai
monly designated by 1
Main,' variously spelt,
parts lying off the shore. ThiH-iriguiof ibc namf#^
posed long ago, seems to bo the troe ane.*'
One of the ishinds, Monhegan, was
an early dat^. Mr. Folsom, of New ^i
author of the Hutory of Saro and Bid^**jirt
an address, September 6, 1646, before* tlie
Historical Society, saya, in K'fereac^ to
vation : —
** Unfortunataly for its acctfracy, *>"^ ?*
Maine iu France did not appertain to ' irictls
Maria, but to the crown [of France] ; ih < of li-
able that she posoossed any interest in tht- pro^inc«.'*
John Wabd Deax
Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A,
WigcoDsin is called the "Badger Stntp'
that animal being found there ; K< «!
** Silver State," from the great nunibi el
uunes in it» JNL
"LUCUS A SION LtTCEKDO" (D*^ S, 11 -f'' ^
would su^''gest ** lux in tenebris " aa the
fication of the Latin luciUf and its nt.ir
equivalent to be our word ^lad^^
by the I>e8t authorities, referred to ^i
" to lighten up,'' understanding liy it a alin ?'
green sward, open to the sun'a rays, in the lu
of a wood. Suoh a locality seema to hure he^^^n i
the mind of Livy when he wrote (Lib. xxiv», cap* 3
^' LuctiB ibi, frequent! silva et proceri^ abtet'
arlx)rib«s septus^ beta in medio pusouu habuit ^
for liicti^i here connects itself better witb
pasture than with the surrounding wood ; but
knguuge is not exact. Cicero, on the coot
describing a grav« covered with, aa well as 1
in, by a thicket, leavea no doubt of bi« i
" Septum undique et vestitum vepribus ei i
sepmcbrmn " (Tmsc, v., 23). Is not the foeii
lucui being held sacred unfavoumbic to Ibe
gested derivation from the G nek \rKoq( liy
in the chapter just cited, prtj' ; eak of I
aacred tlocks as "nuuquuin i iurunit i
frande violati hominum." This .statement, tbot^
not to be taken for more than it4» worth, militAbes
strongly ngainat the supposition that ft htaut wu
commonly regarded aa a covert for wolves.
Some derive lucus firom Xvyif, darkness, glooH
shade, obscurity ; or from Ao^o?, an ambtu'
(Ao;^)ui>^, a thicket, a place? proper for an amb
ca.d«j. It is most probably from lucns, L q., I
from the light sliining in at the entrance* y% ,
would seem to come from aktuTrrj^, tbrougfil
FaXuiTTrj^. R. S. CitARNOCir.
Grays Inn.
Unauthorized Aiucft (5*^ S. iL IfiT.)— '
can be no doubt that there are many tiimlies
«w|^l
6<» 8. 11. 001.3, '74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
273
(^f'
hesa firms, nnd who have done so for severttl cen-
tarieci, Mliich no record is to be found
in tht* li allege.
The folio wiai^ instances are fresh in my memory:
1. A sergeant !it law, Virin^ m the eurlier part
of the fieveat^oiith century. He came of a family
who, for Neveml t^enerutions bfick, had been calletl
lUemen in olficird d»X'tmienU. His amis appear
ft eoTitrniV'**^''"^^' hcntldic work relating to the
OMinty of which he was a native ; and one edition
" not more) of a book pubHshud by hiiu contains
on the back of the title. No record of a
coniirmation of armi^ to any member of
!y b to bo found in the Heralds' College,
The coat has every mark of antiquity. Few Eng-
bearin«^ are ip '^" -««Mi.le.
2. A di«tin*i^ii i in the Parliamentarian
Ini n.'uur^. I war. His father and
^j, \ft*rf men of good position in the
riLi lid of London ; he hove his armf5 on
his seal, evidently n signet ring, impaled with
thooi^ of his wife. The coat is a very Bingidar one,
does not belon;^ to any other English family, and
is very unlikely to have been invented in the
.seventeenth century. These arms are not on the
Herald.*' tipgiater.
3. A member of a well-known family in an
m county held an othcial position in the reign
Elizi\beth. The arms of the famUy Imd
n in the Heralds' book^. TbiH member of
le, however, used on his seal another coat,
which is not regLHtered. This coat, I was informed
«otne ten year* ago, by the then representative of
the family (himself an accomplished genealogist),
not the arniA of some ancestress which he had
adopted, but a bearing which, though never ad-
mitted by the hendds, had been used, in various
forms, by other members of the fondly, at earlier
ami later period.^
4. A fiimily who have been in the rank of the
itry from the reign of Richard III. or earhcr.
ir arms existed in stained gla^s, till about sixty
rears agoi, in the windows of a church where they
Dtmed their dead in the fifteenth century* They
M9 mentioned by one nf our great seventeenth-
Cf r* "' ' TiJdic writf^rs, and their coat appears
D[ plate piirebiused in 1C53, yet the
b: „..+ i,;t. , of them.
'^ I hiiv© carefully investi-
g wt^re aeedfQl, iidd many
««! Axoif* '
>La nuiiGH Magician (5*^
8^ iL 1 vements in the neigh-
wjod of Uui W <st iiow, Edinburgh, '^near the
e," have swept away all vestiges of the
haunte<i " anrl ilm k aWle of thij* notorious
IDdiridual. aad the nite i^ covered by a building
(3 the Seee^fiou Chuick A woodcut
" is given in Chiunben^s Minor Tro-
ditiom nf Editdturghf 1833, where it is shown as
within a courtyard, approached from the Bow by a
narrow covered entrance still Rtanding, and which
forms the subject of a vignette in Mr. Wilson's
Memoriah of Edinburgh iti Uit Olden TinUf
Edinburgh, 1848. J. Manuel,
Newdwtle-opon-Tyne.
Major Weirds house was not near the castle, but
in the Bow, on the right hand coming up from the
Grass Market* I have constantly i^&s&sd it as a
child, and was always very glad to get out of its
vicinity* Tliere was a tradition that Major Weir*8
carriage used to rattle down the Bow at 12 o'clock
p.M,, and also that his stick— said to bo a witch —
could and did go t-o fetch hia snuif from a neigh-
bouring shop* On a wooden door, painted green^
I distinctly remember the words '* no admittance
except on business." What the business was I
never inquired, bein^, as I have jwiid, very glad to
get away from the plaoe. Isabella Swifte,
"The Twa Corbies,*' ok "The Three Ravkits*'
(5^ S, ii, 189.)— Mr. Peacock will find another
version of **The Twa Corbies," taken from Mother-
wells Collection, at p. 227 of Tft^ Legendary
BallafU of England and Scotland, edited by J. S.
Roberts (London, Wame & Co.),
Alexakdkr MACKiNTOsn Shaw.
London compared with Antioch (5^ S. ii,
146,) — The tetnuitich was written by Jofhn]
Qu[arle8]. Tlie plate itself waa prefixed to Thomaa
Fuller's four aerraon«, 16»^7, entitled Th€ Be$i
Name on Earth; the tirst being on the text, '*And
the ilisciples were called Chriiitiims first in An-
tioch/* I am anxious to learn whether John
Stafford (whose name, as the publisher of tho
sermons, is on the plate) used the same enmving
for any other work. A copy of The Best JVarae is
now before me ; but some Holhir collector has
laid violent hands — *'' convey the wise it call** —
on the frontispiece, which is also missing in other
copies that 1 have seen. I shall be grateful to
Mr. Patterson for permission to copy his engrav-
ing for my forthcoming edition of Thomas Fullei's
Collected Sermom;. Jomr K Baxlet*
8tr«tford, Mancheftcr,
*' Unaocostomrd as I am to Public Speak-
ing'* (5*** S. t. 367,)— Ovid places Ajox in this
position : —
** Sod nfio mihi dic^re promptom ; "
MeL, Lib. xiii. 10.
F. Dandy-Palmer,
HERKDITART K^flOHTS OF THE OrDER OF St,
JoHK (5**^ S. i, 468.)— In the Onler of 8t. John
there were formerly Hereditary Knights of the
Grand Cross who had the right to transmit that
dignity to their descendants. This favour wiu*
very rarely conferred, and w^ \J&& \ss^^\^^\h«e:^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[B-S.IL0cr.Jt7*.
1
great aervices rendered to tihe Order. In France
the fimiilies of Notiillea, St. Simon, Vignaoouit,
&c., were thus diBtinguished. I have never heard
or read of Hereditary Commanders or Chevaliers,
but such may have existed, and the extract given
hy D s may be taken as evidence that this
was the case. J. Woodward.
31oatrofe.
"As sotriiD AS A tbout" (5«» S. il 224.)—
" As sound 03 a roach ^* is a Tery common proverb
in this county^ and perhaps elsewhere. E. B.
Bottoti.
Transit op Venus : Jeremiah Horrocks (5^
S. ii. 205.)— Costard, in hm HUtoryof Astronmny,
calls Horrox, or, as hia name should rightly be
spelled, Horrochf " a young clei^^man " ; and
Thomaa Heame, in his Antiquarian Notes, says
he waa ** minister of Hoole," which is about five
miles from Preston, in Lancashire. I think a
record of the fact tliat the Erst observer of the
transit of Venus was in holy orders, and, at the
time he made the observation, iind when he died,
curate of St. MichaePa, Hoole, should not have
been omitted from the epitaph to his memorj^,
erected by HoWeu, the aatronoiuer. This epitaph,
as quoted by M. C* J*, says the observations were
made by Horrodcs at BootU. There is a mistake
somewhere. Is not Booth a misprint for Hoole '\ I
should mention that a very interesting notice of
Horrocks, baaed on What ton's Memoir^ will be
found in the Qucmvv&rt FarUh Magazine^ for
Sept., 1874, Considering how much astronomers
are indebted to Horrocks, I am surprised to find
no mention of him in any of Mr. R. A. Proctor's
books — The (Sun, Light ikiencefor Leimrt Sours j
or Other Worlds than Ours — all of which treat more
or less of the approaching transit.
S. R. TowNSHEND Mater.
Sbeendalt^ Hkbmondi Suit«j.
"Iroh Virgin," Nuremberg (5*^ S. ii. 209.)
— See ** The Kiss of the Virgin, a Kanative of
Researches mode in Crermany in 1832 and 1834 for
th£ purpose of ascertaining the Mode of Inflicting
that Ancient Punishment .... by R. L, Pejirsall,^
in A rc}i(Fologiay voL xxvii. p. 22&. This paper is
illustmted by engravings of the machine. The
writi>r had only succeeded in seeing one instrument
of this k j nd, but had heard of se vei^ more. 1 believe
that others are now known to be in existence. I
shall be obliged to any one who will point out
where any of them may bo seen* Mr. PearsaO'a
paper was rear! before the Society of Antiquaries
IB 1837. I shall be gbid to be referred to engravings
or books of an earlier date in which the Jungfem-
htus in delineated or described,
Edward Peacock.
Bottesford Muior^ Brigg.
See *'N, & Q.'' 4^ B, y, 35, 151, 255. There is
an interesting article, caUed " The Maiden** Ki»,**
in Chamherds Journal, for Dec. 26, 1863.
John Pickford,
^ewboume Reotoryj Woodbridge.
"Grewe," le. Greek (5*^ S. iL 204-)— la
Ulster, the country people call a greyhound a j^vcir.
The late Mn Richardson, in his V ■- '• ' •••- >^ok
about dogs, calls the greyhound < nd
conjectures that it derived its iiu:*.. :,..., ...;;; of
Greek origin, S. T. P*
" Monsieur" and " Madajmb" (5«> S. ii. a>5,)—
The following extract from a journal of 1738 shows
A curious us^ of the word Madame : —
" Paria, Feb. 23, 1738.—*' The marriftgc of the Mni
AtAd&me of Prance with tbe Infant Don Pbil'tp. and vf
the second Madame with tbe icoond son of the King of
Sardinia, were declared jeaterday at Veraaillet.'*
W. H, Pattersok.
Queen Caroline (5^ S. ii. 22o,)~Her appear-
ance at his coronation was forbidden by George IV.^
but its possibility rendered him jminfuUy nervous.
I wtia told by Sir Thomas Mash that the report of
her object haviug been partly accomplished Wl fo
agitated His Majesty, that, had not a glass of
brandy been at hand, he could not have gnne
through the royal solemnity. My own responiiible
office gave me occasion to know that c* i les
of plute, and aooessoriea of the corona t Let,
had been appropriated by persons \w\\m<i loyal
feehngs had maae them desirous to po^ess me^
mo rials of that event ; one lady had been seen
pocketing a spoon, and declined its restoration,
which being insisted on, she exclaimed — oompal-
sion also hinted at— ^* 2kian, lay a finger on lue,
and I will scream my heart out ! " Aware of the
consequence of any alarm, the attendant suffered
her to carry off her booty.
Edmukd Lsitthali* Swifts.
Biblical Evidence (G*** S. ii. 228.)— Dr. Th.
Sherlock, Bishop of London, piiblisbed Tht Trial
of the Witntuu of the Euurrection, London, 1729.
It has been pubfished with "The Sequel of the
Trial " in Chruiian Literaiurc^ Bohn, 1S48.
Ed* Marshall.
Shotover: Chateau-Vert (5** S. ii. 91, l^i
197.) — The following entry in the earliest Pip«
Roll (31 Henry I., a.d. 1130-31), which occnn
under the account for Oxfordshire, seems to show
that the corruption of ** Ch4teau-Vert '* into tome-
thing very like " Shotover " must have begun, if it
ever took place at all, less than fifty years after the
compilation of Domesday Book ; sunposin^r that
the entry does not tend to prove that the d'
of " Shotover " from ** ChiUeau-VeTt " i^
more than a conjecture founded on aituitiiiKy vi
sound : —
^
p
ff»8.n.OoT.8, 71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
275
^
"Hueo foreftariuf de Sotora reddit Gompotum de x.
tolidia die Teteri Centu forette de Solora."
The won! " Sotora ^' occurs in the same toU in
the Euscoimt for Gloucesterahire : —
** Monichi Gloeoeitrie rcddunt conipotum de c. llhtia
pro tismi de Sotoi^ quam Kex eis coacesslt"
Now. the Monastery of St, Peter at Glouceater
po^cesed land in a place, the name of which
fipiMiora ia the Hwtoirand Cartulary of that house
piiolished in the Rolls Series (voL i, p. 12), under
the form '* Sottcshore/' and which is identified
with " Shotov er " hy the editor in the index. In
Botnesduy Book (f, 154 b), uoder the heading
" Oxenefordacire," there is a notice of a royal forest
in **Scotome," which is most probably identical
with " Shotover.'* If it be» the derivation of the
liitter from " Chateau- Vert " is out of the question^
unless we suppose that the Normans had forgotten
their own language only twenty ye^Pi after the
battle of Hastings. Frank Scott HAYDoy.
Mcrtou, Surrey.
** Boss " (5"i S. i. 221, 253, 356.)—
** Adown the blaclc and craggf bou
Of thftt huge cliff, whoic ample Torge
Tradition calla the Hero's Targe/'
Id these lines, quoted by F. D., boss is plainly
the name for the projecting stud or ;wint on a
Soottiah buckler or targc^ fi^iutively applied to a
pecmliarly-ahaped rocL The edition of Webster
brought out by Meaars, BeD & Diiidy gives the
following etymology : —
'* French loue, ProTeo^ral hoisa, Italian hozaif from
Qermaii luu, buLxn, something cloddy or stumpy, point,
tip ; Old High Oennan boxo, tuft, bunch ; Uutiih fww,
boaoh. tuft ; Old High Gcnnan pv^an, p'zjan, Middle
Bl^ti German hCzetii New High Germiin bosteyit to beat/'
(2.) Bm, 5ojt-^e, which Tauntoniensis has heard
in Someraet^ahire applied to " oxen, cows, or calves,"
can, it need hardly be said, have no connexion
with the foregoing word. It looks like a rcpre-
seDlatire of the well-known Celtic word for a cmt\
Imh 6o, Wel^h butcch, Scottish Gaelic />o, kc.j
which is the relative of /^ou^, hoUf a root which
may very well have been oDouiato^poetic* It is,
however, urged on the other hand that if bo well
expresses the bellowing of the be^ist, the b becomes
a in Skr. gi\ Zendish gdo, O. H. Genu, chuo, Eng*
eou\ all which forms possibly lure variants of
one root found in Tauntoniensib's bos, inter-
rea of b and g not being unfrequent.
(a.) I think Crescent has given ua the true
«ff^in of the American word " boas" in the Butch
David Fitzgerai^d.
i: Trunk- MAKER (5** S, I 3<>B, 43a)—
Tai i I cations issued from the press on the
uw< Percy's claim to the earldom of
1 ^. from the deuth of Josceylin
vj. .>.* ^i.i.ifith earl, May 21, 1670, till the
j dmm WM decided adversely by the Lords in 1669.
His own petitions on the subject extend from
1G70 to 1694. For full information, see the fol-
lowing : —
•*The Petitton of James Percy to Hi* Mnjcsty for the
£<Ut«^ ai being next Heir to the Earl of Northumber-
land. 167y, fo,"
" The Ctairn, Pedigree, and Proceedings of James
Percy* now Claimant to the Karldom of Korthumberlttad,
humbly presented to both Houses of Parliament Lond^
l»>80p fo/'
** The Case of James Percy, Claymant to the Earldom
of Northumberland. With ao impartiid account of the
Proceedings he hath made in the several courts of Juf-
lice, 10 order to the proving and obtBiniog his rl^ht and
title to the faid EarJdom. Lond., 1685, fo., pp. 12."
In Sir Egerton Brydges*9 Eutituia, vol. liL
pp. 619-528, will be found a most interesting
review of this case.
*' Short Account of the Proceedingf of James Pcrcy^
late ^f Ireland, in purBuance of hia right to the Earldom
of Northumberlandi fo. n^d,, but contempomaeouB.'*
I quote from one of the statements that " the
claimant^H adversaries procured to be published in
the gazettes, that the claimant was an impostor;
and declared that hu 7tam^ was not Ferqf,"
In 1689 the Lords aentenced him to wear a
paper in Westminster Hall declaring him *' a fahse
and impudent pretender to the Earldom of North-
umberland.^* Notwithsttinding this Lord Chief
Justice Hale is reported to have said to the Earl
of Shaftesbury, *' 1 verily believe he [the claimunt]
hath aa much right to the Earldom of Northum-
berland m I have to this coach and horses which
I have bought and paid for." See also CoUins's
Peerage^ edit., 1812, vol. ii. p. 357 ; Masters's £ia-
tory of BcneH College^ CambridgCj p. 355, For a
brief iiccount of the suifetings of his son Anthony,
Lord Mayor of Dublin, see Archbishop King's
Stats of Ike FroUsiants of Irdajul, edit., 1691,
pp. 1 38 and 179* Gabton db Berneval*
Fhihtdelphia.
Shaddonoatb (5**» S. i. 328, 395, 517.)—** To
get at the origin of a local name^ we should," ac-
cording to Max Muller, ^* go back to its earliest
spelling," and, as this was not done by the querist,
of course all interpret/itions ** may be held as
dubious." However, I am prepiired to fortify
my definition of this word by some pretty good
authorities. I stated that "Shad" was the
Frankish CAo^i^^war (see Grimm's Ikuischc Gram"
matik)^ not that Ca^ had been corrupted to Shad^
but that the Celtic Cath was equivalent to Shad or
Chad. That they were originally the same is moat
probable, lor the Saxon d was equivalent to tk^
and 8 and soft c were interchangeable. A very
simikr, and perhaps more correct definition of the
word Shaddongate, may be thus : — the repetition
of the d may be a redundancy; as Br. Latham
observes, in liis English Language^ p. 157, ** the
redupUcation of the consonant after a vowel, as in
^oUedf merely denotes that the i^t^cfcto^^ -s^s^^
276
NOTES AND QUERIES.
is short " ; then the on in Shadon nmy be a cor-
ruption of the Saxon plural in en (" N, & Q." i,,
ii,, 2M) or of an = a district (Beale-Poste, Aneiertt
Britahi^ 242), In fact, thia trivial vowel-change
would not be a corruption at ail, for, ** In deriva-
tion, aU the vowels may be treat-ed as one letter "
(BoBworth's A.-S. G^amtnar). I do not find
Shaddongate upon the Ordnance Miip, but, if it
hj or WAS, near Carlisle, there can be no doubt
hut that, being upon the Border, the meaning is
th« wftT-gate, or entrance. Gate here must be
taken in the general and geographical sense, and
not in the contracted form now used. There are
several names near this part of the Border quite as
indicative of war and Btnfe, viz., Wigton, Warwick,
HarrabyH, Harwich, and many others.
When (which Beldom happened) a place name
was adopted from a prc^per name, it waa generally
the name of some one more renowned than he M-ho
" lis mitl to hare been brother to 8t. Patrick/'
C. Chattocic, F.R.H.S.
Cattle Bromwkh.
MoNTAioNE's " Essays** (5^ S. I 2(>8, 275.)—
Surely this idea (were I to live my life over again,
I ahould live it just ils I have done) has occurred
to most of us. I think it bus been put in a most
ooDciflo form by a poet of whom very few of the
readers of ** N, & Q/' have heard :—
•* I 'Te had m J share of trouble, and I *Te done my shoro
of toll ;
And life ii short,— the longest life ii span.
I care not now to tnrry for the com or for the oil,
Or the wine that nii^koth glad the heart of man.
For good isadone and gifti miMpeat, and reflolution«
vaiDj
Til! somewhat Ute to tarry. — Thii 1 kaow,
I would liYc the aame life over if I had to live again.
And the cbancea are I go where most men go/*
The author, the late Mr. Adam Lindsay Gorflon,
was well known in Austndia aa a tine spirit, a
good comrade, and a gallant horseman. Major
Whyte Melville quotes some of his verscH in
Satandla, M. C.
Helbourae, AuBiraUtt.
" Though I think no man can lire well once but he
that could lire twice, yet for my own part I would not
live over my hours pMt, or begin again the thr«iid of
my days : not mito Cicero'a ground because I have lived
them well, hut for fear I should live them wome."— ^S*V
Thomat Brownt.
W. A. C.
CowpKR : Trooper (5'* S. I 68, 135, S72, 316 ;
ii* 16.) — I know nothing of the poet's gene-alojsry ;
but if he waa descended from a iJurhani or North*
umbrian stock, ho would certainly be a Cooper,
We, in the counties of Durham and Northuuiber-
hmd, call a cow a coo^ and, therefore, Coi(^}er would
he X^optTu A tribe of north-country potters is
known um ** Cooper's gtmg," but I cannot say any*
thing about their orthogmphy, for I have known
theni fij^ire in jioluc rtporU as Cooper*5 and
Cowper's. *' Dun Cow Lane,'* in the city of Dor-
ham, is popularly " Dun Coo Lane,"
Names, as to tlieir pronunciation, vary in dif-
ferent localities. Take, as an ejtample, " Wal&h."
This is a common name in Craven, and it ia in-
variably pronounced WotsK In Durham^ we have
the same name, but it is id ways pronounced a»
writt'Cn, "Walsh/' In Craven, we have ^ aoi^
where " Cooper '* in a rhj^ne to ** trooper " ; liiiti,
as I never saw the song in print, I cannot say
whether the hero is a Cooper or a Cowper. I have
known numerous Cowper^^ but they were all C<K>p*r».
I should consider it very pedantic to csill a Cowper
otherwise than Cooper. In these matters the real
guide is not so much corr<rd?*ew as custoffu
James Hekry Dixoy.
We have had Cowpers (Coopers) in the land for i
mimj generations. They are an historic familj, J
and have filled i-arious offices of Stiitp fmit» the I
Lord High Chancellor (grand-uncle « , in
1707, to the First Comiuissioner of ^ .lur
own day. Yet, to humour W. A, C. in his notion
of altering an orig:inal till it resembles its portrait* 1
they are now to call themselves somehoay ebe I
Would it have surprised a " Glasj^^ow '' man to hear
George Stepberuwn's " So much the worse for the i
cw " (cow) ? H, D, C
Dursley,
Cowper is a mere corruption of Cooper^ and it has *
always been pronon need by country people Cooper.
In idl very ancient documents it is usually written I
Coop^ or Covjp^ ID the contnictod form. The pn>- ]
nunciation never altered with the srpelling, init,j
like Darby for Derby, Barkshire for Berkshire, I
Barkeley for Berkeley, &c., held its own. Still, I
like W- A, C, I prefer that the poet's mime should I
not be vulgarized into Cooper, though sentiment
is one thing, truth another. Z. Y. X,
Welsh Testament (5^^ S. i. pamm; U. la}
The suggestion of M, H. II, i^s tn the desirable
of the **New Testameot C^omuii^t-f ' Kf^rif^^l
among them a scholar c;*paVjle of tbe|
Enghsh version with the Welsh is ^' , ^ -on-
sideration. There are many passages which iippcikr,!
to a WelshTjian at least, more forcibly rendwd itiJ
the hitter than in the former, M» H. R. is noi/
however, hnppy in the illuat rat ions he gives of thu
readings in the Welsh TcHtauient. In the passagi%
" Fel na choller pwy by nag a gredo ymJdo ef, ond i
mffcLtl o hono fy wyd trugwyddol " ( Jolm nu lh)A
the wonls italicized do not, tut lie supposes tbcijfj
do, mean "obtain from him/' Th*
boilied in the phrase "o bono" r<
liynng," whosoever; to him who xpiuin
eternal life, not to Him frt)m whom he
obtain it. The text is an example of a ^
Welsh constractionf in which a verb in the ialfinl-^
<
ff»8.IL0cT. 8,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
277
^ tir© is cnnirnnf.1 to a finite yerb, contmry to a
I rule of ] !)tax. This idiomMtic nsn^e is
[of firequ* rence : thus, in Dcut. iv. 25,
1 *' Pan }j;euiat:dJycb feibion, ac wyrion, a hir-drigo
lo honoch jn j wind, ac fnnlygTU o fimioch^ a
\ gumttithu^ o honoch ddelw gerfiedig/* ^'Wlien
thou ghiilt y^^f't ♦"hilflren, and children's children,
land yt >' ned long in the land, and
) $hnll ffrri , Lind makt a graven image.^
' OijfF" / ' 0 Ls eiiuivalent to tty-havc of him =
\his ^^ his hating; "a hit arlgo o htmoch
md ' "lin of ^ii ^= your long
%init< SiOHA*
** Sl3?npLE '' (b^ 8, il m, 155,)— pn Cange
mjB :■ — *^* Sinoitis, color vtridis. Galli in teaseris
armaniB vocant SinopU. Green color, which the
Freoch, in beraldry, call Sinople" Chambers does
nol aay it "ought to mean red^'* but only that
"Pliay and Isidore, by rdor prfwinrts, or ginople^
a brownish red, such as that of onr ruddle,"
Iff aaid for himself just before, ** SinopU^ or
H(y in heraldry, denotes vni, or the green
■» in armories." Coates says (IHctionaty of
Wry) : — " Sinoph is the word used by the
French Heralds for green, which we call vertj' It
vras callcsd Sinoph^ he telhs lis, " from a town in
the Levaot where the best materials for d>ing
grten an found," Edmdnd Tew^ M,A.
»**PKrVATE HlSTORT OF THB CoURT OF EnO-
Z.AJTD*' (5*^ S. ii. 208.)— It would certainly be
intereating to know the author of tho work, but
•till more so to have a key to its assumed names.
Many permnagefi mentioned, such as Mrs. Fits-
lierbej^, Mrs, Robinson (Perdita), &c,, are easily
recognizable, but there are others of less note, for
the discovery of whom a key would b© very uae>
fnL Ferhap6 P. H, will fumiah ns with thia,
H. S. A,
8PELLTKG Reforms (5*^ S- i. 421, 471, 511 j
jiL 29, 23L) — I quite agree with Mr. Mortimer
ICoLLors (p. 231) on the desirability of introducing
r a character to represent the Greek th^ and I think
^thia might he done without disturbing our pre-
i at alL If th, as it ia in tkick^ tfiintjt &c,,
the present form, and the Greek th, ty*
ha^i a line through it, we should
J oieful distinction. So also .something
4<me, l>y very simple contrivances, to
: the most stion^fly pronounced dill'erences of
' I ; but all this belongs to tliat cUjss of
irbich may b^ deferred till something
mftx ^'f ^T^cllinir Im^ lu:on ngreed upon.
T~ ndy/onV^ if the cliange I
fin>\' \N0 words alone, I cannot
Gooorivc ui any i.u;4;4ostron more friFolfm^ and
iiBVfiithy ; hut thr rcnl question is this — i« it not
BUMt destmhle to reduce to uniformity all words
bebogin^ t<> one and the same group, and not
whether it is desirable to spell d/tnce with tt f or ^ f
The question affects some 1,500 worda, of whiah
" dance " happens to be one, and as the French is
dansiT and not dancer , 1 fail to see that ** we*
have not arrived at a point '' when such a change
"is even conceivable,-' although Mr. Collinb
seems to think it conceivable that children may
be taught that ** 8 times 9 is 60."
£, CoBHAH Brewer,
LaFAQtj Chichester.
« Aroint ^'(5«>S. i. 163 ; ii. 1^4,)— The diffi-
culties besetting this Shakspearian word are not
likely to be lessened by persistence in mistake. I
fancied I had said enough at the first reference to
save the arougt of Heame's print from being misread
arongt ; yet we have now Dr. Charnook coolly
asserting that ** we have also arongt** We certainly
have that word in a mislection of the trumpeter's
cry in Heame's print, but nowhere else. Dr.
Charkock also rcTiiarks that *' we find roint thee
and araunte thceJ^ Where do we find the latter
word ? I have seen it only in a spurious (and, I
think, raiaprint<!d) extras;! from a non-existing
book, which was relied upon by the Rev, Joseph
Hunter, in his IlluiiraiionSf but has been uni-
verstdly branded as a spurious quotation.
Meanwhile, we have aro*nf, as a verb active, in
some northern dialect. Here are two modem
examples of its use : —
** Whiakerod cats arointed flee.**
Mrs. Browning.
"What wonder thftt the vermin fi&d aroinlid,'*
From The Animal World, toI. v., No. 63, p. 28.
I have no doubt the word arongt in Heame's
print meant get out ; and, if so, it is almost tho
■?aiue word hb the Lancashire anawt. Jabez.
Atkeaiaeum Clab.
"Knave" (5*»» S. ii. 31, 155.)— Having some
knowledge of vernacular Irish, but none of philo-
logy, my ear is often caught by English and other
words which invite inquiry. I identify knave
with the Irish knab'rtj a lad, a boy ; in dictionary
Irish, a jester, a scoffer ; and should like to know
which is the older word, InaTt or knah're. The
" festive hoard,'- which the lad or boy sen'cs, is no
lem suggestive. Irish bordk^ a table ; ItordSn^ a
tablet or small table. Which is the root, if either?
The (fai>, or raised place of honour, comes in too*
In Irish dais^ a pile or heap ; d^m (the e almost
inaudible), neat, proper, decent ; c/<;fWira, to settle,
to aminge, to adorn ; rfeosaim, to stay (settle down),
to remain. Which is the root, if one or other ist
I should feel much obliged for a clue.
lONOEAMCS.
GKon^iE CoLMAN (:>»*» S. i. 487 ; ii* 131.)— The
lio honing with Tivu is so much in the manner of
Hood, that I think (if it be not by him) it must
have suggested mmt of ht« ^uwvw^^^scm» V^RfeSJoto
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^8. ILOcii.3,71.
p<5€iu by Hood called A TUtrospcdive Be view). In
the Taks of Womhr of Lewis is a contribution by
Colman, called the *^ Water Fiends," where we find
some very good plays upon words, equiU to any
that ever were perpetrated by Hood. Take the
following aa specimens : —
"TheMi*or,
Like eyery other moor, wai bUok."
" No curtaiMd sltt^ Imd Bbe, because
_ She had no otriainM to her bed f "
'* I was not *//, but in a w?f//,
I tumbled backwards and wa« drowni>d/'
Cowper, in his John Qilpm, has a very good
calembourg : —
'* My h&t and wig will soon be here —
They are upan the road J "
But in Praed's Bed Fishcnnmi we have some-
thing that beats Cowper : —
" The startled Priett struck hcAk kit thwht.
And the Abbey clock ttntti On4/*'
N.
[Our oorrespondent*! last example tni j be cupped by
Hood's line* :—
" Th^pj went and told tlie sextooj and
The Miton tolled the belK'^
" Gci»sK9 AT Truth " (5"* S. n, 89, 155.}-^Mn,
Warren is in error in assiffmng the articles signed
U. to AuguMus Hare. In Mn Phuntre's "Memoir,"
prefixed to the ** Golden Treasury'' edition, it is
said (p. XX v) : —
" In the first edition, the Gutttt* contributed by Au-
gustus were ooniidered bj Julius fy» the main lubstance
of the book, and wcre> therefore, left without any special
sign of authorship. Thosne which ht: /u'tojc^/" contributed
were indic-ated by the initial U. Tho»e by his brotbera
Francis and Marcn* are indicated bv B. and A. respec-
tively."
The second letters of their names. E. V.
Anjarustus Hare's contributions have no signature
at alL Those which are signed U. are by JuUixa
Hare. The plan followed with the signatures was
to give the second letter of the name of the writer.
The Cruejfsex by Francii? and Marcus Hare are
signed E. and A, respectively ; and those by
Maria Hare are signed a, J. W. W.
PnmcEs OF THE Blood Royal (4^ S. x. 453 ;
i5*^ S. i. 4f)7, 516 ; il 37, 77.)— I am very much
obliged to Mr. Oomme for his kind reference to
Mr. Wickuam^s instructive note, but ray quei^y
remains unanswered. Me. Wickitam does not
say that the Duke of Cambridge takes precedence
by " special act." On the contmry, he says that
he has the style of *' Royal Highness " by
" especial favour of the kincj," and now (aa it
would seem) by force of the Letters Patent of
1864! I again ask how any patent can over-ride
the express provwions of 31 Hen. VIIL, c. 10. I
suspect, however^ that the Duke's precedence is
settled by some private Act of Paruament ; and
I shall be indebted to any correspondent who can
refer me to auch Act. I should, perhapei, apologia
to your readers for taking up the apftce of ** 5< . ^k Q*'
with, what may seem to many of them, a virf'
trivial matter. But, in view of the happy mcreoia
of the royal family » the question may heneaiter
oome to be of much importance ; and, veiy
possibly, in time to come, the " especial favour '*
accorded to the Duke of Cambridge may be drawn
into a precedent. Middle Templail
Bradford.
" Field " (5»»» S. ii. 207.)— Dr. Ogilvic ^ ^
field = feld, is ** probably level land, a p^
Danifsh velkn^=to fell, to lay or throw down.
I have a charter in my possession, temp, Henr
III., in which field is spelt "veld'*; but I tliink^
slight study of the fac-stmile of Doomsday and tlii]
Ordnance maps will confirm the genendly receiviedj
opinion that field is from the verb ftld. If V
Ogilvie is right, the well-known Danish scttlementi
on the coast, and all the country north of Watlb
Street, ought to be literally ** covered" witi
"fields"; but such is not the case any more thoill
in other parts of the kingdom. The pbce-nanKai ^
containing Stok, Stock, and Stoke are usually
attributed to a similar origin, viz., land cleared of
timber with the exception of the stem and rools*
Hatton, Haddon, and the like, are also oonsideiedL
corruptions or contractions of A*S. Haih4
Heath-Town. By reference to the Or
map it will at once appear that the
^ Afield" in a pbice-name never occurs in
primeval water-meadows on a river bank,
generally in close proximity to land formerly
and woodland. The best county histories {\
are made up principally from the Public Records^
and public and private charters) confirm this,
Dugdale^a Higtory of Warvn^kshire it is stater^
part of this (Castle JBromwich) hamlet was fot
called " Wody-bromwic," and I have chartjcrs i
deeds in my possession from temp. Henry
(without a gap of forty years) to the present tim«|
clearly proving that four of its fields, — viz., Hun '
feld = Woodfteld, Brockhurstfeld = Ba<igefwo
field, Bockenholtfeld = Buckwoodfield, and Ho
stonfeld,— have been carved out of land fomierlji
covered with timber. Three of thest* fields nti
now so named in the reference book of the Tilh*
Commutation Map of the Parish. The other bai
been divided into the Four Days' W^ork^ the Fir
Days' Work, &c. In my note, under the bend
" Pan," I referred not to the double /, but to T
absence of the t in " field/'
C. Chattock, F.R,H.S,
Caatlo Bromwloh.
A ** Tract "(5^*^ S. L 3550~Many thanks
H. A. S, for his information liixmi JJanttji Tt
** Tract " is surely but a contraction of " tr _
tiori," a handling or drawing out of a subject
(which
^^^
l»an.Oor.S,Ti]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
279
find in BichaLrdson the quotation^ '^ I would not
teeme, in tuy tmctatioD of antiquities, to trouble
my reader with^" &c, (HoUnslied, Description of
Britain^). Doubtless in modern use it is re-
strict^ to a small pamphlet, but there seems no
tea^- " iU etymology^ why it should.
/ >: stands on much the same ground.
It lii rrainiLriiy restricted now-a-days to the print
opposite the title- pnge ; but being derived from
' " the front of a houBe/' the present
litiaiy enoagh. Pblaoiub.
**PuT TO BtJCK " (5'»> S. i, 228» 2<»3 ; ii. 76, 138.)
— I think E, V, has *^ gone a lonf( way back for a
very unsatisfactory solution " of this term. " Put
to hook ■ ' was the description given to the process of
' swearing in *' witnesses by a gnmd-juiyman, a
tyeoraan, and uncle of mine, born about a century
ago. The saying was very common in this locality
quite recently, as alao "I swear it on my hook
oath.'* C. CaATTO<jK, F.R.H.S.
Cutis Bromwieh.
*
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A ooLLEcrroN of ancient coins is one of the objects
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*"*" non cui^'is confingjt '* ; and it often remains an
object — unaccomplished. But here b Mr. Lee, to
urbom the public with a taste for ancient learning,
manni rH^&t., is idready hirgely indebted^ pre.senting
us With such a collection, or, at all events, with the
next best thing to it, — the lithographic presentment
of a hundred and sixty Roman miperial profiles.
Th© book is more than useful and interesting, it
is also in a high degree amusing. They who study
character in feature and expression have here a
field, and never-ending cause for astonishment,
ftcn doeji the portrait belie the popular idea of
imlividuaL This volume, moreover^ will, as
Mr. Lee anticipates, be found very useful by "coin
ooikctors/' especially those who are beginning to
numismatics. The drawings have been
Jy made from coins by Mr. Croft, of Torquay,
and the correctness of the likenesses has been
raoogoized by experienced numismatists. Brief
notes of the Lives of the Emperors and Empresses
add very mtich to the value of this most acceptable
" ' ri hour of delight will be enjoyed
t i _ long evenings in turning over
..-. lu Uiem, the first of the Cx*sarB looks
iljjy a man with a purpose. The last of
them, Romidus Augustnlus,— no doubt a rather
conventional portrait, — has the " cut" of an Italian
tenor singing the mournful ^na/<; to a long and
stid opera, and he has the air of a man who is being
hissea by his audience. Pompey the Great !— "Oh,
how unlike my Beverley J " — is a Bnub-nosed,
vulgar, unheroic person, resembling the popular
idea of a small tradesman who has cleaned him-
self and bnished back his hair, to take tbc chair
at some parish meeting. Brutus has no little the
aspect of a patriot that we should take him for a
sharp, plausible, unscrapakms member of th©
modem profession of " Promotcra." Some of the
heads are, of cotirse, supremely grand, little short
of god-like ; but when the imperial heroes begin to
wear whiskers, the majesty goes out of them ; they
remind us of amateur actors out of tune and time
with their subjects. Valerianua might be a rich
railway director at a modern fancy ball. The illus-
trious women are, for the most part, natund, lovable,
human creatures. Cleopatra, indeed, has a strong
w^oman^s-rights air in her Cfice, yet is not an unhand-
some virago. Agrippiua is a lady, in spite of her
sayings and doings. She is as tender and womanly
as Livia, Julia, Antonia, and Orbiana. Octavia
has a rather cold, fashionable, "Vere de Vere*'
expression. Tnmtj^uillinji nmst have been a Roman
blue- stocking, and she strikes us as about to make
a cutting reply to a speech then in course of
delivery at some Roman School Board. There is
something, however, especially attractive about all
these ladiesL They show that there is a beauty for
every age. There is an exquisite charm in their
simplicity. The arrangement of the hair must
have been a delight to the sculptor or engraver,
and a contemplation thereof may be wholesome to
more modern ladies, to whom the graceful^ cleanly
f^hion of the ladies of the Roman world has been
hitherto unknown.
Memorials of Manehe^Ur StrccU. By Richard
Wright Procter. (Manchester, Sutchffe.)
In a handsome volume, with clever and interesting
illustrations, Mr. Procter has given us a readable
and amusing book on Manchester. He takes us
through the streets of the industrious city, and
t^Us a succession of stories as he goes. Mr. Proc-
ter does not forget to rectify established errors.
For example, be assigns to a ISIfinchester man, T*
Noel, ** The Pauper's Drive,-* which is commonly
attributed to T. Hood. We allude to the linea
beginning with^ —
" There *■ a grim oue-horse hearse in a jolly round trot^
To tbe churchyard a pauper i§ going, I woL
The ro*(l it ia rough, and the hcar«e hiM no spriQgs»
And hark to the dirge that tbe iad driver tiogs :
Haiti e hit booet over the stonet.
He 'i ofdy A pauper ^hom nob<»dv owns.'*
We heartily congratulate Mr, Procter or th»?
choice contribution to Manches^ter history.
280
NOTES AND QUERIES.
TU Clan BaiUt at Path in \^m ; an Episode of High-
hnd llmtorv ; f:d, .<n fnrfuir^intQ iu Causa, and an
Attempt to' Id' 'tn* Engaced in lU By
Alexander Mac .v. (For Private Circula-
tion.)
TUK bulk of the matter ooniameil in this «inaU pam'
phbt form* u chftpt<?r of » lw«er work, TU JIutory of
ike UvuMt and Ciati of MackTHtoAh and pf ifa Clan
ChinUan, vthitih tbc wnter hu in hand* Readers will
remember the rreont controYcnsy on the subject in our
eulnmns between Diu MACPQEKJ^if and Mk. Suaw.
A V%tti to Archliiffiop Loof and the Old Catlwlic Chtirr^h
of Holland. By T. >l. Fallow, M.A., St. John's
College, C&mbridge. (Edinburgh, J. & J. Gray.)
In view of the recent conference at Bonti, tbiH paper
Cftoaot feil to bo interottinff. It is a reprint, with Bome
alight moiiific&tiona, from tlie ScoUiih Guardian. It will
not be forgotten that we were able to give^ \u our la»i
volume (p. lS2),ii table of the succeesion of the Daioh
(Janaemtt) Church from 1724 to lbl3,
PAL^ou»dt7». — S. writef aa follows : — " The roeeiit
deaitb, at Turin, of * Prince John Anthony LaBcarta
PalieolojpiB/ h«« called forth ao many leaden in the
daily prew, that one ii led to the conclusion that the
Priaca wai a personage of more importance than might
bave been soppoaed, Gonsiderin^ all thut had preTiously
been said of the name in periodical publications. The
deceased gentleman v&s an illeyitimaie son of u member
of the Houae of L)iicafi, and, prior to his adoption of the
name of Palaeologus, was known as Prince I>tt»c&ri8. The
writers referred to do not seem to be aware of tho fuct,
that his Bote heiress was no other than Mai iJi Maillet* a
voung lady whom he adopted as lik daughter (t'eb. 11,
1869), and who haa been hitherto known as the Princess
Lascarit.*'
SiiAiiSPEARE ANi> MiLTON. — Mr. *J. 0* HalUwell
Sr^imiees us hia reaaons for believing that Shakspeare
16S. may be concealed in an ancient nouse belonging to
Lord OverstoQe. We are the more encouraged to hope
that this ma? prove a fact, as one of Miiion*s common-
?tace book« has just been discovered in the house of Sir
rederick Graham, at ^etherby. It contains letters to
Milton, entries by Milton, in 63 pages, and extracts
which appear to have been made for Milton.
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WttDMd t<7 J, jr. BuOit^ SU«t£)ra, lUoiolicstsr.
^DtUfi^ tu Co rrfJJ^cmOfiiU.
Jnx, Wak. — Sir Cliristopher Wren was cho«eu On
Mastorof tlie Freemft'»<>n?, !«f*>i. In 17H four '
lodges united at "' ' ^
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nmde complaint '
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for the lime. Their choice definitively fell on the T
of Montague.
E. A. D., referring to *• Dominicali" (f/** S, ii
aptly reminds all who are interested in the ^nlvi' «'^t
*' Au aGOOont of the probable origin of tbc
payment called ' Bominicals * will h<* fo't
I" Series of * N. k Q ,' vol. iii. p. C
article I have mot with no staten
induce mo to alter my opinion th^r
Mr. Sparks Heki>eb50N Williams writes : ** Barliam,
and not Thackeray, wrote the linefl misquoted by Mi
KiuririDY (p. 284). If he tuma to Sdl Vooi '
Ingoldib/s legend of the ** Bark Entry * at •
he will see that—
** The Sacristan, he taya no word that indicnttr u J jt.t
But he puts his thumb unto his noscj and sprcaa.* liiS
fingers out ! "
Miu G. C. LoifGLVTt Maitland, Oatario, CanAdi^ aaSa
'^' where, and at what price, books relating to Fr
Spain, and Germftnyj siuiLr to Burke's BntUK I
can be obtained."
A. G. P. aiks for particulars of any essays writi
or against the opinions expressed in Lord M
Hittory of Unfftafui; and. also, of any book (i
written on the Abbeys and Castles of Scotland.
F. K— (5'" S. i. ar.tJ) Pela'SICS refers you to the H«lhK
typo Compauy'it Office, 221, llcgent Street, fur fac-strntlai
of Diirer's etchings.
X. S.— Here is a proof that " Rev." was apnliad to
judges. Thc NtM^ Xatura BrfViuvt of tki Mtai Rtnmthd
Judge, Mr. Anthoi^y FitiktrhrrU siith edittoo, ITIH
Also •* the Rev. the I'rivy Council " occurred. Ump* EUxft'
beth.
M, T. — Zavier de Maistre's works liave been
lated into English, Any good biograpUical dictioiwi
mav be consulted for his life, tie died iu Iti5i2, '
eighty-eightli year.
♦♦. — *' In infancy our hopes »nd feai9 '* ij an
Ariaxtrxet, by Dr. A me. '* Water parted from tba d^
is from the same opera. Words and music by Amcu
A. A- — Will yon be good enough to add to your wa-
tribation thi^ name of the source from which it is talent
W, D. S. ask* for particulars, with publisheff*'
of the best works on Cryptography.
GI4ASG0W inquires when Rome was first liglit«d
gas.
PEiiffCR.— " Vinegar Bible." See a%U, p. 2Ul
G. D. — The Sullclk epitapb has been often pnoiciL
yoTWE.
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JIfltrf.
rs "DICTIONARY OP ARTISTS/*
SATSnS) THE CARICATURIST.
i>rnTtrihlv II I in h better kflowm as a
U 'lid* f^ives him a place
_ i >/} than as rin atto^ney-
^ js Receiver of the Sixpenny Writ
ml M:ir-f]nl of the Marshalse^i of the
M the Lt>rd Treov*arors Ue-
Tht^ne olhcea hiive long
1 -suepL u.way, I believe, and the liinryers
pccly recovpird the cxhilamting effectB
the uncient uaiue of
Ki5o\\}i nuu foT his worka as an
%l is, his caricatures. To his con-
• ' to hiive been tmknown, for
1 1 < d in different wuys, uml his
. . , iLber^f as I whall snow. His
I weru all piiblinhed anonymously^
prciK^rillv ^i IK 1 iho curiciUtire'i thtit
I Ib. It is remark-
111 hiive been m
tt*^ i' I tli«> lynx eye* of the
i. ' IHi-Honary of Living
to h!i\*e known most
IT day. They attribute
Jatuea Sayers^s works lo "Edward Snyer," a
barrister.
W<^ are told thnt Sayers continued his political
caricAtures until Ills death, which took place (Mr,
Redgrave informs us) in l^*23, and he woa buried
in the vaults of St. Andre^^'i* Church, Holborn. No
recorrl of the event is to be found in the Genil&'
Mr, Kedj^ive uaVB, " His father hnring lefk him
a Amall fortune, he did not continue to practise in
the profession of an ftttorney " ; but he quotes no
authority for this Bt4itement. I do not dispute but
that it may be roughly correct, though, at the »«iiiie
time, if he did not actually practise iis an attorney,
he held profe-ssional posts, to his deuth| which
brought him in a considenible income (?)» t^tid
rendered a private income not, at least, tt matter
of necessity,
Sayers was of a Yarmouth faimily,. and I find,
from the Law List-s, that a James Snyers practised
there as an attorney as early as 1779, and continued
to the year 1825, when hig name disappeitrs. In
1821, he took Christopher Sayera into partnership.
I suppose this James Sayers to have been a brother
of James Sayers the caricaturist^ as the hitter is«
in the Law List, amongst the London attomcya
frouj the year 17BD to the year 1802, with the ex-
ception of the years 1785^ 1787, and 1789,* an
omission the following t^uot^tion will explain. It
is rather long, but I think it is fully justified by
its interest inij character, and its being from a book
seldom met with now, namely, the RctonU of My
Life^ by John Taylor, author of Monsieur Tonsofi,
1832, vol. i,, pp. 42 and VMt :—
*' M ' ' " I >tr, James Snyert, well known for hit
Utemr Ik cancaturiU, mnde a ludicroua draw-
iair «t ' '* i" the heroine, .%nd published a print
of it cULc'd hy him^Lf. lie also made a dra^inut of Mrs.
Abington, ia the cb»nicter of Scrub, which sbe degraded
berietf by performiog oa one of her bene^t nights. Mr.
Sayorj wa^ so wel! known, and so much admired, for his
knoTrledge nnd tnleiits, that I mu»t pay a short tribute
to hii memory. Ue was an attorney, and in partaarship
with another in Gray'i Inn* but his partner was so fond
of uiijitHng that h? ne^lect«d all business to inditlsc him-
self ill his favourite diversion, and Mr. Sayers deemed U
pr»ppr in di<?«>lre the connoxioti. Mr. Sayer* was
r lAtamirie humoar, aud for hii fertility
in sarcastic verses, a« well at for his
it.,.. ■■- draw'iiigA, which he engraved himself,
and they constitute a very large coUectiotu He was a
very shrewd maa^ a warm politician, and a sealous
Pittite. Qis moit popular print waa published at the
time when Mr, Foi brought forward bis meiiKirable East
Itnlia Hill, after hi* coatition \'.;tlj L^rd North, which
dc-'troyed the rcputiition of
This print, which difplayed l-
represented Mr, Fox a* '^'
the fiuie of which had i
in Leaden ball t^treet, J j<
tSayers publiahed many other vv <rk
and all in favour of the Pitt admisi
itical inte^ty.
ty and hutnour.
* Xo Iaw Lists (then a private speculation) wcm i^uJi^
liihed for the yean 17^6 auiY;^,
282
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Sntinmte friend of tbe BoydeU^JSUtcted inAny of the
iubjectg for the artists, when tbode ehterpnsin^ patrons
of paiBttingr in conjunction with my hite witty friend
Mr. George Nicol, the bookieller to Hia Mftjesty,
iustitiit«d the 8hakape&ra Gallery in PftU Mall. On the
death of Mr. Pitt, Mr. Sayers published a poem entitled
. £Ujah-i MithUe, which waa very popular at the time,
[ antf has since been erroneously attributed to Mr. Can-
' ning. The fertile imaginfttmn of Mr. Sayers, and his
tareastic humour, remained inexliauated till bis death.
One of hi8 last publications waa an heroic epistle to
3Mr. Winsor, the celebrated founder of the Gaa Company*
This poem abounded in wit, humour, and MtLre, and
might fairly be compared with the memorable herok
epistle to ^ir William Chambers [1773J» the uuthor of
which, like Junlui, has never been discovered, but is
now generally euppofled to have been Mr. [William]
Ma^on."
Mr, Taylor goes on to aay : —
•* I knew Sayers in early life, and notliing interrupted
our friendship. The last time I had the pleasure of see-
ing hiin was at a dinner at &ta|>k Inn UalL lie was a
member of the society of that Inn of Court/* *
The partner Tiiy lor refers to was named Lettenyt
and, in all probabilit}^, he com plained to his friend a
of v^ayera riding his hobbies, jiist as Bayers seems
to have complained to that interesting and
garrnlous old scandal-monger Taylor, They were
partners for nhout a year or two, 1782-3, and dis-
solved about 1784, in which year Sayers was ap-
pointed Marsha] of tlie Marshalseii of the Ex-
che(juer. This I find from the records kept dt
the Public Record Office, Fetter Lsine.t His
name h not in the list of attorneys for 17S5, nor
until the year 179<-» ; it then occurs re<?ul:irly
except IROl) until 1802^ when it disappears.
(Whether he pmetised during his tenure of public
office, I cannot say.
In the Carkutnrc History of the Gcorrjcj^ • * • t>y
ThomjiS Wright , . , (1868), I find Sayers men-
tioned at p, tJlO, and, in A IJutf^rtj of Caricnture
ajul Grotfiique in Liltrature mid Arf^ liy the same
uuthor (1665), on p. 453-6, we have the following
account, which tlu-ows further li^jht on the .subject:
''James Soycr fiici is known, with very trifling ex-
, eeptione, as a political caricaturist. He wan the son of
m captain of a merchant Bhip at Yarmouth* but was bim-
I ielf put to the profession of an nttomer. As, however,
^ lie was posaesicd of a moderate intlependence, and
appears (now ij to have hud no great taste for the law,
he Deflected hia business [ia John Tavlor the authority
for ihiB fj, andf with con a id crab! o talent for satire and
caricature, he threw himself into the political strife of
I the day. Sayer wb« a bad draughtsman. ... He made
the acqutdntance, and gained the favoiu*, of the younger
** Thli is a mlstAke; Staple Inn is an Inn of Chancery,
not an Inn of Court,
f As I had a great deal of trouble to find thi?, and
spent many davs searchiDg, I will be particular with the
references. The appointment, in the room of William
Buckle, dtfceascd, will be found in June. I7ii4, in the
^ 8i^iet Office Docket Book. Every possible facility is
^von lit the Kecord Oflice ; but, unless you know exactly
\ vhat yttu want, and where to find it, tearching there fa
a fortiiidnble adairj and may well be compared to the
inuiitional search for a needle in a btmdle of hay.
William Pitt when that statesman was aspiring to power ;
and be began his career as a caricaturist bv attacking ih»
Rockingham Ministry in 1782, of course m the tnlereii
of Pitt, . . . (who} gave the earicaturiat the n^t un-
lucrative offices of Marsha] of tlie Court of Eaeheipiex^
Receiver of the Sixpenny Duties^ and Cursitor.**
I have several remarks to make about these 4
tracts and Sayers 's biography, which I had betti
reserve for another note. Olphab Hamst.I
New Bametf Herts, N.
shakspeaeiana.
*'The Tempest'* (Act iv, sc. 1).—
" Thy banks with pioned and twilled brimA."
SteevenF, after referring to Chapman (OfiJ
Banquet of SejxUj 1625) —
** Immortal amaranth, white aphrodill.
And cup4ikc twill-pants strew*d in Bacchus' bowtn.*'
(See Reed's Shalipeart.) \
saya^ ** If twill be the ancient name of any floirj
the old rending, j?i^nc4 and iwiUrd^ may
A triend inlbmis me that in Warwick^' '
the adjoining counties he has heard pa
nounced 2>.V<^».v) used for the mat^h-mangoi
tivill for the rush. Let iia examine the
evidence on the subject. The common word iu
or tir€^l^ is to weave in ribs or riiJge* ; usa
weave cloth in a particular manner. To qu
plait or to form with small ridges, like
reeds, and is generally^ if not i
nounced hcill. In the North of i
need for quill, a reed j and UiUhj la to
reversely. Bailey gives " a Umld^ a rmiU, a i
or spool to wind yum on for weavinc, jf . C'*
Dutch fmil is a j^arland, and tidlfjc is a noiegajil
little gadand ; the Alt-Friesi»ch twict^ tmw^ f
rendered *^ zweimal.'^
Roquefort gives the 0. French word douU^ i
dounlf^ dovnk (which would comipt to
daubU, t^pata (from duplrj). The word
sometimeii called tlie ** ruah-lenved daffodil^*^
abbreviate or corrupt to quil or quilK
Tennyson calls a lady's tumed-np no^e ** Un-lma
like the petal of a flower,'' with wliLh the J
tiPilUd might be connected. (Il of
fmm jn7iculuSj a diminutive of j
rush.) The word brim nmy have no refc
the edge or margin of a Kank or river, htitl
brim, margin, or lip of a plant. It would con
from ]i/rlni^ primes for primroH. T UAf' it
we pro.se the whole pomgniph, we i
" Ceres, thy hanks, which Fpuii_
command, betrims with pa^oned j' 1 J
to make chaste crowns for cold n
it we ought first to ascertain with
in question would be likely to bo
it is not fair to decide V"*^ ;'...;'
also accounting for the j
panU, The wor^l jffanfe w „ . .^ , ......^^ ^
planU^ or p<yinU, Boqueiott rendcn* |HIsiI,^
,n. Oct. 10, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
283
_pflMi«": and pnfn:f^panine^ "ventre, groa ventre."
|.jii«'n there is the old English word poune, jmn, the
"head (in Cttnirrr j>.in, ihi' top of the bead), which
Imightbr iTeT\deT?-pen(e^pnntt\
r**thr'dcMi I :, slope nesae, or slope
111' ;i lull, Uiti^L, I'uufe, (Sec; also a place of
. an inclining towurds a fall," Bobt<j
jcmicr^ punt^' '* cluvpelet de jj^tites coquilles
Ihlanches ; toile de crln." Roquefort renders patif,
I •' il pcnse," One of the meunings of the Romance
wjfMntau \n «outi ; and ianci ia the French numo
I for the marigold. There is also the French »anw,
Ij>a7n^ the panic- ilo wen Then ngain, tmU-pant
Vinight corrupt from tulij.mnt, the old form of
Iftiitp^ so called from its resemblance to the
Ifuhft'i'tf «>r hithant^ found in Bailey for the tuThan^
|A ^^ ^ from the Persian dvllmnd.
iers to the marigold, I would write
j^tts. I do not believe that brims has any local
ding ; and looking to the term tmll-2)antHj I
bmk iinll-hnmn may have been the name given
|lo some well-kno^vn plant, who^ apex resembles
the edge or top of a qidU, It may first have been
l^ttill^ then twills tmUd. My attention Vftis not
I the article on " New Shakflpeacian
/'in the Edinburgh /?mnr of October,
^# -:, until after the writing of the nWve notcjs.
R, S. CUARNOCK.
*<S»r roiy. WherefofTfl are these thio^ hid? Wbisre-
fr llAT* tn^ge ^fts a curtain before 'eta ? Are they
I to lycc duft like Miiireu Maira picture 1 "—rire//£A
WigiU, Act* L BC. 3.
Tliis baa been said to be an allusion to Mary
Phth^ oUfiJS Mall Cutpurse^ an Amazonian botuir
|rt>&a. Probably it was, she being as well known,
MolJ was common for ao common a name as
But why " take diist like her picture •■ ?
vcnhiH' Of] a possible explanation* In The
iMo' I iguereUc U an aged lady in waiting
EHj £ ; -. But in Act v. ac. i. we have : —
■ Fa*. . . . Thcre'i Mugucrelle, oldest bawde, and a
erpetttJiU begjcur. Did you never heare of her tricke
t be knoi^ac in the Cittie ?
"Bit. Xevcr,
" /%tj. Wby, she ^tt all the picter-m&kcrs to draw
■1 : when they have done, she most courtly
:f with them one after another, and never
They, in revenue of this, execute her in
doe in Germanie, and bang her in their
inehnea ebc ii better knowne to the
katdjt Uiuii if ibee had beene five time« carted !
* iOL Fore God, an esoelle&t jiolicie ! **
Now this, though quit« conaiatent with Mague-
lie a more yoatldul and more age^i character, is
|U»t« incouwist^nt with her position at Court.
»T I apprehend that JVIarston here introduced
. n story ; and it is clear that he was
f '.fa Court when htj wrote " knowne
iM»r, and " five times cartetl." My fur-
bi>r iupfio«itiou is that Sir Toby is referring to
the same st<>rywhen it waa still known, but older j
nnd when the exposed and uncared-for pictures
were somewhat dust-covered as compared with the
other specimens of each portrait-painters art.
That his word is picture, and not pictures, can
hardly be considered an argtiment of any force ;
and if we accept the reference, there is his usual
under- sarcasm J visible to all but Sir Andrew him-
self, when he likens the hitter's vaunted accora-
plifthinents to the caricatured featurea of Mistress
MalL B. Nicholson.
Thk Expulsive Power op a New Affection
(5'»» S. i. 405,)—
*' Even aa one heat another heat expels.
Or oa one nail by itreugth drives out anoihcTi
8o the remembrance of mj former love
Ii by A newer object quite forgotten,
la it her mien, or Tolentmas' pruiae 1
Methiokfl my zeal to Valentine is cold ;
And that I love him not, as I was wont'*
Two Oefiiiemm o/ Verona, it 4.
" Great is the choice that growes in youthfuU rninda
When Ijonour fulles at variance with affection.
Nor could tt yet be knowne or well defined
Which pAsaion keeps the other in subjection.
Both do aliurOi both do the judgment blinde.
Both do corrupt the heart with itrong Infection.
Yet loe sometimes theae hurt^ procure oiir wealej
Even ae one pojaon doth another heale/^
B.J, Harrington, Trans h England's Parnassia,
On what ground does Allot here ascribe to Mich,
Drayton a oassage at a later period univei^ly
supposed to oe Shakspeare's, viz,, —
*' This n^VftU throne of Kings, this peentrcd ylc,
TbiEi earth of maioetie„ thi« seat of Mare,
This other Eden, thia demi-paraduc/'
Atchurd II., Act it. 1.
BlBLlOTeECAR. ChETHAM.
THE DERING EOLL OP ARM9> ERRONEOUSLY
STYLED THE "ACRE" ROLL.
The valuable collection of 3iJ4 coats, in trick,
which occurs in Harleian MS, No. 0137, from fo.
fin^ to 97^, was, doubtless, derived from one and
the same authority referred to in the Villare Can-
tianum^ in numerous places, aiii the ** regis ter,*'
" cjitalogue," or "beivd roll," which says the author
at p. 123 " comprehends *' (V. n,, indudesf) the
names of those Kentish gentlemen who were with
Richard I. at the siege of Acre (old name Aeon)
in Palestine, it being cited in the margin tlirough*
out as an ancient roll of Sir Edward Dering's.
The copy in the Harleian MS. was taken
apparently, as likewise the one which succeeds it
in the same volume (i. #., Kent roll^ tnnp. clows of
Edw. IL fo. 98-99, m coats, but probably un-
finished), by John Philipot, Somerset, and is headed
(in a later hand ?) *' A very good rowle of Kentish
Amies & som others." Its identity with Sir
Edward Bering's list, which, thatdbt^^ Toa,^ \i^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^ SL XL DOTriJfti
held to biive comprised arms as well as name*, is
forced upon us by many considerationu. The
uthor of the ViUarc gpeaks of Wm. de Say as
einL' ** in the front or van " of this Aeon register,
ad niB ahield is in fjict the first, that is uJ'ter the
iiiigle fi4^mi-regal une, in the roll« It is singuUir
that ftll the names he mentions as ocjiurriug
\ it are to be found now, with but trifling excep-
tions,* agreeably both a,s to Chri«tian iind surnjime,
r5n the Harleian copy. Again, the suppo&ed con-
nexion of the ** very good lowle of Kentish Armes,"
&c,, with the siege of Acre, has strangely enough
attadied to it even to the present day, although a
very superficial exam i nation shows Papwortti to
hare been correct in estimating {Ordinary of
Brituh Armorials) tkat^ though assigned (by
tradition?) to the year llSti, it is, in reality, of
much more reeent date. "Richard fiz le rey,"
moreover, whose shield (gu. 2 leopards passant
gardnnt or) heads the series in the roll, is obviously
not the rebellious son of Henry IL, but rather
f Eichiird, baae son to King John, who took the
[ name of Fitzroy and maiTied the Lady Rohesia de
[Dovor, of Cbilham Castle in Kent The justice of
r this will be easily seen on reference to the Ttsta
tU Nevill (p. 207) where he is designated, in like
manner, Ridmrtl *'fdii ^^^^,*^ his name being
coupled with that of " Roys uxoris sue,'* the Indy
alluded to.f There can be little doubt, I think,
that the occurrence of these singular anus at the
heiwi of the roll, so nearly alike the royal coat of
the time, enhanced by the iDeculiarity of the words
** fiz le rey," affixed to the name of the bearer, has
all along been the reason of its attribution to so
I early a date a« that of the tlurd C'rusitde ; anti-
['Ouariefl of the seventeenth century having taken
[U for granted that the Richard, *'8on of the king ■'
in question^ couM not refer to other than the
obdumt^ but gallant son of Hen?}' II.
The majority of the name^ in the roll, too, are
I those of men of much renown in the lattt*r part of
ihc reign of Henry IIL ; the subjoined Dotes,t
* These excepttoua fti-e, Rob«rt de Houg^faAin, who at
p. 195 is fltated to luve been at Aeon with Etlward L,
irhioh in probably a slip of the pen for Kiclutrd I., tui he
Igures lathe roll; and Robert de Septuua^, mcTitioa^d At
p, 342, but who Ls doubtless tbe blundered ^' Robt Sccu"1
_ \qy. J^euend) affixed to cue of the earlier coat« which is
"leli blank. With respect to tbe coat» of Lucy ami AJ ore-
worthy wc are informed iu the Viltarf tliat tbe connexion
of their reipectire owtiera with tbe Flo!y War wa^ tbe
_ eauae of the introduction of tbe cr
paternal coatA (!); another sugge^
referring to tbe record under consil
sro to dilTerencM in tbe roll.
f In "Gloir^r'fl'* Roll of Ilcnry HI., the ■nni h©rc
»ilo|ted to bim are ntcribed to Riehftrd dc DoTor, who
Iftibficquently married his widow, und Appears to haTe
iBdoptcil his coat Hkowiae.
I The references in bracketa are to tliQ fo. and shield
in the roll.
Roberts^B CalnuL QtnttUogicum,
1^ 8L i2a//NormMinle [««•• lb], Inq. ?. M.— Ub son
collated from the records, respecting ceitAin
them, sufficing to show that none floiinahed ca~*
than that rei^n, and some few so kte as th4? <
mencement of the next (Edward L)» horn,
middle of which the original docitmeAl
TboukOF, tged '2j jears oxdj (Kent). Ann. 4:!^
Hen. llL
m. 1Viii. Le Bretiin or Breton, Inq. P. lA.—JtH
he Breton [i^^' 71 ion and heir, 21 jian of age.
Hen. Ul.
lia Robert de Giitton. Inq. P. M.--Zra«
•on find heir, aged 2i (Surrey), Ann. 43
Philip de Arcy, or Darcy, Inq. P. M-— Sir
[93^ ]H], 6on and heir, aged 28^ and upwar^n
Hen. III.
111. Roger dc Quency. Comes Winton, Inq. P. K—
His «on Bohrrt |Mf>.lO| died in bis lifeiimCj and lift
iMUc^ tw< ' 'uly, Ann. 43 Ren. III.
130. M no'rc. Inq* P. M.— Sir Rogrt \
kencre ['J'. .nd hcii^ aged 26 (Esaex). A&IL I
Hen. llL
1S>6. Emricui de Hcri» 196-151 Inq, P. M.— John,]
brother and heir, jiged 30 and upwards (Xotti. '
Derby). Ann. 1 Edw, 1.
20S. Andrcaa Pcvercl, Inq. P. M.— Thomas [P2» i
8on and heir, aged 30 and upwardi (Susies)*
Edw. I.
211 GilbertuB de Preston* loq. P. M.— Laorenti
nephew, sun of his brother WitliaHi [96^ ll]* bk 1
Ann. 2 Edw. I.
234. Tho3. Abelin, Inq. P. M.—X\r.
and heir, jiged 30 and upward* (Kent i Ij
252. Fulco Peyforer, Inq. P. M.—
fon and heir of full age. Ann. 5 Edw. 1. /ttUp
load [f*l-lS], a($ed 30 and upwards, next heir '
Fulco held in bis wife^s ri^ht. Ann. 5 Edw. 1.
27^. JhAficM de Pcnebrigj? [tJii-lOJ, Inq, P. H.-
Fulco, son end beii , a^td only 8 years. Ana. 7 Edm.l
2»S. BaHh. de Suley [93'^ 1], Inq, P. M.— Joha ^
Sttlev, his heir. Ann. 8 Edw. L
308. /tot/. Tailk'boif [95-161, Inq. P. M.— Looul
boiit^ bis beir, aged 23. Ann. ^ Kd^v. 1.
585. John, eon a ml beir of Jtoiph Httsard [t5^
aged 21 {*' prwb. «t*t."), Oloster. Ann* 15 Edw. L
Htnry de Cobbam [90-7]* of fionndal, son of Jriba4
Cobbam, senior, who was living in ann. 35 Hen. t^
The arms in the roll are adopted from thofc of 8te]»b
de Penceatre, whose heireea be mnrried. Henry da T
hum, of Roimdal, died in the middie of the reign i
Edward lb
\Vm, de Ueurc [90'' 7] was Sheriff of Xent patt i
ann. 1 and «ntu 2 Edw. 1.
Ptrt* de Huntingfield [&K1] w»s Sheriff of K«nt yirt_
of ann. 1 1, 12, and part of aon, 13 Edw. L
lioK. de Sootto [90'' 19] waa Sheriff of Kent atta« I
Edw. h ^
Wm. de Valoignes [9019] wab Sheriff of Kent ami
4, 5* and part of ann. fi Edw, I.
Wm. Monchensi |9M6] attained bl» majority in
year of his father Warine's deathj ann. c(^ Uen. I
(Duffd. Bar.)
Hhity de Malmainft [91-15], ?«n to K
was a minor in the band* o! Itertram
Hen. IIL (Kol»ert*'- " " ' ml i..jk
Ju/iHr do Borne [^l i of Kent iiaH^
ann, 22, 2^1, and pan
Rohrrl de Creveqii" : i>
3uer, junior, and (ji
revcqucr, who died u.iu -.^ uli. in., tf^e »svd (
24 at the time of his gmndfatlicr's deatb*
A
g
£^ S. II. Ooi: 10. 74 ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
285
./.,
rea^mahly W KTirmiacil to Imvo ilalotl. The record^
t [>osaibly have hud any relatifiu
I to Acre, or Palestine, either
if ii.»ni i dur de Lion or Edward Lon;i-
Th«j Isitter le<l «n unsiit.'e4?ssful criHade to
' '^' i, aa w«5 know% in the hist year of his
fnd n'hcn mmnj of the notithxHim uf
^'•'jsfti, IVs will be perceived.
lents ID the Viilnrt as to
uf KentiHh fjimilies huvinj^
a engngcd iix, Aeon as com pan ions in amis of
'liird I, tiivist be looked upon throughout sis
T.c?d by a false as^suiuption us to the
tj 1*1 roll in question, and as not having
^iiijtihtti*t fouBdation io f»ct ; the persons of
nmnes huviug been contemporariejs^ indeed,
one another^ iis the records show, not in the
iga of Richard I., but quit« kulf a c^itury later,
ibit of Henry HI, Jamzs GRiSKaifiiiurr.
VfCTOftfA, AS A SuRNAiiEj oc^urs in the list of
* G«ntleweomen^* who went with Henry VIII. and
>ttern Katherine ** to Cantorbur)% and Hoe to
I and Guisnes, to the Meeting of the French
" '• Mrs. Victorm/' HarL 2210, leaf 4,
F. J. F.
Kxrn AKT> Enolish Vulgarisms.— The un-
BJiiatical slipslop, "A. with B. W€tt so and so/*
nft«»n noted in careless or ignorant Enjjfli^h
H-rtr7>. It is curious to find it delibersitely
'U a French author of great repute: —
avec le jeune due , . . . ac rendlrent a
Vl\\niUA*i-v " ("Say, tk>vrs ('OmpUt ttlLeonvmu Poli-
pqut^ Pt. ix. vol ii p. 5/iOj third edition).
Lyiticlton,
WTRENCBs Family tn HA:siTs.~Some years
I c/jpied the following epiUiphs (if my
iftrenoe be correct) in the Church of St. Cross,
' Win ton. They are in Roman capitala :—
"SCtiJLKA LAVUK^CE
VA8 CAKNK VALIKS
A fleih prevailinif Yesiel fovntl
Ikarttti d to l^-e vrider erornd.
vixiT m:<% 13, ltJ47,
AKVUtlT JAK. 18, 1650.**
"OiaoilOlVS LAVRINCS
^ Effii vti LftvrcTiP
I Vndcr Iv us Invivl dry.
Vixit Uetob. 14, Itifiii.
DBriiit gep. lf>, 165L"
K.B. — In the Jourjud of th< Housa nf L^rds,
' I'll, we tiutl, referriiiii to tl*© subject
r of the no«pti,d of St. Cros*.
it ' ' -re:* Tho ktter
1574} ; and amongi^t my nteiuonmda I Imd
the will of a MartjJiret Lawrence (P. C, Win.)^
firo. Au^just 29» 1G*J!) (her reliitivcs are named
iarton, West, and Sylvester) ; and the marriaye
at Holyi*o*Kl Churchy t;outbampt/iu, of Richard
Lawrence, of All Saints, and Sarah Tomkins,
widow, on April 2rith, I68fj.
There are doubtless a jjreat many more notice*
nf this family to be found in the registries uf
Hants, Sp,
VcLOAR Names of Plants,— The derivation
of Jenisalem Artichoke from GLnisol reminds me of
a similar ause. T met a woman a few days since
with a bunch of " Shjdiing 8tilly," as she ctdled
the purple Loose Strife. The plant h the Lytkrum
nalicaria of Sowerby, and the Halicarui v^ulgaria of
Ray. Collectors of vulgar names should note
Budi comcidencet*. P. P.
New Readings, — Hor. i<at. i. 3, 107. Many
years ago a friend showed me a pocket edition of
Horace, printed in London some time in the last
centurj^ naving a readini^ evidently unique :—
'' Nam fait ante Helen&m sanadon teterrimft belli
CaiUA."
In Doering's Horace^ reprinted in Glasgow^ 182B,
*' deterrima " is given instead of " teterriraa"
S. T. P.
A Sharspeariak Ckitici8m op 1720,— 'In the
Goldtn Medley y London, 1720, it is related that
Apollo held a ** Visitation " of Pamassua, to turn
out a number ot small pieU* who had obtaitMHl
admittance under false prttences :—
** You may eoe several haughty Proteaden roarcbinis
away with 'doleful fiwca, (lad bearing off the heavy
Tolamcfi of their works, Beaumont and Fletcher beia^
only saved by two of their comediea, nor by thoae could
bfi rais'd above the lowest Rank of them that wcro per-
mitted to stnj ; aad if U bad itot been for Shakest^ear's
Ttmpeti ho would »ctiree have been allow'd a pta«se
among the Dramatfck Poeta, 'Tis trae, his admirablv
dmughte of the MtniH^crt would have tecur'd him u
residenoe in this Plikce, yet only tK a Dialogist; others
were recdiv'd only for one I'oem, as Denhara for his
CiiQpfVJt nut. I must observe one thing for tlie Honour
of our country, that Ben Jolnmon tK>re the Prize of
Comedy from tho Ancients and moderns of all Kations,*'
Again, in the same l>ook, in a Tk^^^-ription of
New Athttii in Terra Aiutralu hic/>gnita^ the
traveller diBCUSses the subject of the drama with a
native :—
*• I informM Hemi"pefYeP, *>no of the Society of Poets^
oftl '^ ' ' ■ ' ' losp«Mir in all hl« Plays;
an«l ' uencc, I translated many
of lu I , ^ I ji;pe, which p!cB«'d them
intinttQiy , but I told him that this poet was euttrely
i|icn(rrant of the Roles of the Drama, and, therefore, that
all bit PI ' it fo tn:iUy Pieces of Utatory, which
by cooro'j i bare do Moral, and wore of Utile
use orhij;
C. Elliot Browne,
*'EAcr DE Vie.*' — It is the general impression
that this term means " water of life." Wc find
286
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5** a IL Oct, 10, 7i.
the exact renderinj;^ of it in the CJaelic uu^t-hcathu
(heaths from vita)^ whence twitubattrih and, by
LcomiptiuDj whukij ; but, according to French
tauthoritieH, i>i^ is corrupted from Ijatiu tnfur,
[Bescherelle eaya: " Etiu-de-vie, et Ljit. aqna^ ena ;
■ vitiif de la vi^o, ot non v%t<e, de la vie, coiunje
l-quelquea-uns le pretendent/' Indeed, Oot^ive
(1660) renders " eau de vie '* aqnarite, Dafresne
idmBclf aeema to doubt the usuftl etyniolo^'y^ for
he says : "Aqmi viti?^, pro uqiia vitit*, Gdl. caw dt
vU: nisi ita voceturquod tsit vinum ifjne Ktillatum.
Tract. MB» de Re mUit. et nuicb. bellicis avp. 147.
Hahmntnr mn^cipulm Aqua %ntu balnentiVf d
post&a liijdur cia Juniculug mtlfure unctus^ et
acccndatur funkulus^ &c. Occiirrit pneterea iipud
fBarelet, 8erm. I. in Boul L Quivdrag." The
ItiiliuD arqimi^tCj which in Delhi CriTscii is rendered
** vino atilliito," .seems to agret^ with this ; whilst
the Spanish aqaardiadc (Portuguese, agoartJ^nie)
is rendered *'i»qua ex vino i;^ne elicita*' (from
aqua, water, and ardiaik), Agsiin, the Basque
hiis uTictqnift^ from uray aquit, icequiaf ardena ;
whilst the Armoric haa gum anla^tt.
R. S. Chaknock.
Gny'a Inn.
Curious Historical Relations. — The Coii-
Uur Vaudois of Lausanne publishes the following :
^' Tbe followtiiK etr&age Dikrrativo ia found in tbe
Sutory of ike Sniu Re/ormationt by Be Eucbai It is
not iDd«rt«d na a joke, but gifen in aober SGriouane^s I
lu 1479 the viclmty of Lausume w»a infeited by cock-
obafein. Thej were so niiiucrous luid destructive as to
be ft veritable pest. 3Ir. Kichardt. the then Clmncellor
of fierne, adTifled tbat a Liwetilt should be comuaenGed
u>,ratnBt them. HiM iidviee waa followed, and after three
proceasioni, the insects were cited to ujipear in the
Bbhop'fl Caurt. For counsel tbey bad uisi^ncd to tbeni
one Perrodet, who bad been dead six months f The
accused and tbeir advocate not apyieftrinir* the Court gave
judgtwent by default. The Bcntence is in Latm, and is
preserved in tbe arcbivea of Lausaime. It I'xcotii-
inunicatf^s the hiBecta in the name *^f the lljly Trinity
and til r I'leaaed Virgin, and tbcy nnd their descendanta
arc: ordered to quit for ever the dichce^^e of Lausanne."
The excoiDniunic4ition does not seem to liave
hiftd much elfcct, for at the present day the ban-
Detons, or cockchafers, constitute the ^Teatest
annoyance to which the Yimdoia farmer is sub-
jected. The work of De Ruchat contiiius another
strange story : —
•• In 13G4 the Church of Chattens, in tbe t-'orot Hilla,
pOBWMMed a miracuJoiia image of SJt. Paticritce. A pig
itArini^ dettroytd a child, theaforeaatd image was bnmghi
out, and the child was restored to life. The pig was
cited to appear in the Bishop's Court at Lausanne. It
waa foynJ guilty of wilful laarder^ and aentenced to be
destroyed.
De Buchat says that ** the executioner was a
park-kuicher,'^ The historkn does not inform us
what the finisher of tbe kw did with the culprit's
body I Although Do Ruchat gives dateii, &c., and
refera to d(>cumentfi, &c,, which no one hut him-
self nppears to have consulted, it h dtificult
arrive at any other conclusion thnn *^" '^ *^ * ^
narratives are to be chissed wit)j
in the works of Munchhauscn and .■^.. j. . ^.,.^
Birth-place OF John BrNYA.v. — Tl
letter, here abridged, recently appeaix'd
fordshire Timts: —
I have always been sceptical as to the fuaertcdf
that John Bur^jan was bom in Ehtow parif^^ "^ * *'
a deed I have in my possession, between a !
an Androwes, both of the parish of Cbali^i jh
county, dated 'J'J KUzhbeth, 15th March, I hare
to e^i, limine the register* uf that pariah tburoU}{li
results lead to a presumptioQ tliat Job" v. "=
parish of Chalgrave, and was there bn
June, 1626, makin;? him two year^ f)\"-
supposed ; but I think this wouM
more completely than the M*iual!y
it docs away with the dilhculty . -..
young when he entered the army.
Supposing that this was John Banyan htmaelf. I fhii
from the dates of the baptisma. Jkc, we nitv rcci
assume a table of pedigree for him as annexed.
In the deed in my possession Robert BonyuTi,
worth, in the nariah of Chalgravcj yeoman, — Rotx
yan, late of Wing<'feilde, in said parish, deceased
to said Robert,^ Joane Booyan, now wif' ■ ^ * '
and Henry Bonyon, of Wuigcfcilde, > l
ftnid Robert, are nientioned. Date or
March, which would bo l£iTy-SO accor 1
year. In the registers amonest the 1
Joanne Boijnyan, daughter of Robartt , ^..^l.,.,
feildt^ 22nd Out,, 15!^7, and another t^ne of
Bunnyon, sonnc of Robartt. MoUlfr, Srd Aug , 16
DuiiUrv CARt'ELwr^, I
5, Tbe Crescent, Bedford, 14th August, 1874.
CHALQUAVB aEQltJTili
In 163©, when these regiBtera '.. the
two parishi oners, one William .... '
Richard Bon yon, both having children
think that we may make the foUowin
able from the dates of the dilfert i
William Bonyon, of CbalgraTo, 1
children; he himself was ji-.. . ^. 1 _. .
grave » In 1550.
1. Alice Bonycm, bapticed 25 Nov,, 15C0, bein^ Choi
grit entry iu the register book.
2. Sysley Bonuon, bapti2ed 30 Jan., 15i|, buried SI I
154j(.
3. RoBABTTR BoxYON. bapti»ed la«t dsie t*f June, 15
buried IS April, 1615, and then described aanh""
holder.
This latter was probably father to the foilowi«g:—
L liobartto Bonnon, baptized 29 Nov., 1571«
and had a family.
2. Hcurye Buyan» baptiied 21st July, 1574, burkd \
February, 35&4.
3. Ellen Bon'oyn, baptized,— October, 1576,
4. Jonne Bonyone, baptised 11 August, 1577,
5. Elizabeth Honnon, tmptixed 2ath .Mareb, 15S1.
6. John Bonnyon, baptiited 3rd Nov., 15S;i, buried If
July, 1684.
7. \ViLL9AM BoNKTON, baptized 4th April, IuS$» i
and had a family, as given below
8. Jonne Bonny on, baptized Jjth 3' ' ' "'<\
t*, John Bonnyon, Impdied 17 I" X
The seventh child, WiLLUic, \ i-t fal
the following ;—
fi^ a II. Oct. 10, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
287
1, Etiab«th Bonyoti, b«piiied 9 April, 1619, buried 10
I MArcb, WI^.
I2L Ilcnrr 1»<^nvoD, baptized 10 March, 1620.
• * 'n, baptixed 30 Xor,, 1623.
s, bftDtized 17 Jujie, 1626 (probably the
The rilgrim'B Progreaa ").
Tj, baptized loth February, 162S-9.
- ill this early book d»te from 1539 to
tlR*rd are ^ baptiinia, 12 niBrria|^e«, aud 20
orded of members of the above family, possibly
D. C\ E,
1 Aognst, 1S74.
<auertfit.
fWe Timst rcqaeit coirespondents deairing informatioQ
I on f n of only pri?&to intere^, to affix their
[xiiui.- Lre«e« to their fjueries, in order that the
i uai^crfi may oc addreued to them direct,]
Tns S,\rGOR Post-Bag, — In about the year
\ 1B34 ail excitin;^ incident, fmught with interest to
ti.,. r.L.„ttf^ public, occurred in t be wreck of an
iiU steamer, attended with circuniatanr4*3
. -, ^ a fine opportunity for the muse of the
^jBtirist, The London letters were, it seeniSj saved,
r1>ttt in It wet and diunnged state, and transferred
to a «^amer on her wuy tip from Sangor, the scene
cif the rjT?;i«ter, to Calcutta ; and the scandal ran
he transit the letters were scattered
k, and extensively pried into by the
ngt nsi, who were all of the elite class, retnrn-
om the re- invigorating breezes at the Sand
la. The happy ideti of turning the rumour
[lo luxjount Btruck a barrister of the name of
I Thackeray, a brother, I believe, of the novelist ;
land i\ series of epistles, in the Anstey vein,
rimraediatcly appeared in the ifi/rA'<irw, to the
[no fnmll anmsfuiicnt of the public, in which the
I Government were wigged from Leadenhall Street,
opalar %\ibjects humorously handled, private
from Lidics on furloagh to their spouses,
moAt matters of interest to us Tui Hyes,
jlingly inverted and burle9t[ued. Desiring at
Aer period to go through the Savgor Post-
f Rgain, and under the belief that these dever
found a more permanent and accessible form
Ltbebroadshects of the Indiiin journal, 1 nhaU
I it pointed out by one of the many
lread"K&Q." J. 0.
MOTABLE FlQUBES 151 BoOKS.^Which IS the
.<;,. u....]^ in which figures were cut out
!, by moving them, to illustrate
.,-,,,. : I know of Cowley^s Ferspcf-
tfw^ 1766| asd Harrington's Sdmce Improvtdf
i774. a Y.
^'Dow* WITH turMpo: or, Rea«ona for SupprcMing
Houic. Humbly o0er'd to the ConBidemtion
^'amezit of Ott%% Britain. Printed for J.
lu Jannarr, 1717, there waa published this
ci. To the aJvertiaement I have seen a MS.
note which states that the pamphlet was wdtten
by Sir H. Mack worth. To what hiis it referaDce,
and where can a copy now be seen I
W. E. A. A.
Etiaholme*
Slooan: Kelpie.— What are the derivations of
these words? Have they any relations in the
cognate languages? A. L* Mayhew.
Oxford.
Takgibr. — Some years ago, at one of the London
book Sides, a large volume was sold containing
views and plans of Tangier, the latter being those
made by the Government engineens during the
time of the British occupation (1662-1C83), Can
you inform mt* at what sale this collection was
disposed of, and in whose hands it is at present 1
T. Blackmore-
The Holliea, Wandsworth.
English Tranblations,— Are there English
transhvtions of any, or all, of the foUoiving?—
EpictetuB (in iiddilion to Higginson'i, publiihed bt
Boston, U.S.).
Plutarch, Af&ralia,
Jamblichus, Vila Pytk&^ortr.
Barrutba Epistola (£z Cod. Siaait).
Uertaif PuMtor (either from the Greek [Ex Cod» Sinait.jt
or from the ^thiopic).
Ken IN GALE Cook,
Redhillj Surrey.
2nd Royal Dragoons (Scots Greys), — This
regiment bears the anti-British emblem on it«
cartouches of an eagle with outftprejwiing wings,
resembling greatly the Imperial Eagle of Fmnce.
What is the reason for this ? J no, A. Fowler*
Glenullin. — In Lochiel's Wanting, is this the
title of a real Highland chieftain ; if so, where
was his territory I S. T. P.
The Marriage of the Adriatic and the
Doge of Venice. — What was the form of thiR
ceremony ? According to Ixird Ly tton (Ladif of
Lyons), the ring was recovered after the wedding,
leiulin^ to the supposition that a string must have
been tied to it, and hauled in at the conclusion of
the solemnity. George Ellis.
St. John'* Wood.
AfiSEs' Braying.— How to alienee it, by tyinff
a stone to their tails. I quote (from a ouotation)
this recipe from the Abbe Hue. I have looked all
through his two volumes of TravtU in Tariary^
Thibet^ and fjhina, and cannot find it. Can any-
body direct me to it, there or ehie where 7
H. K
Heraldki — I ask for Ibe fiunily anus of the
two Archbishops of Annagliy BrambftU and Mar-
get^D. G, D. T,
Uuddenfieid,
288
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[s»^s.iLO«, o/n.
" TopsY-TURVT.''^ — Mr. Wedgwood, under thU
word, givea~"from iopBidtt f other way; it is
written tapn'-tarerway in Searches' LigfU of Na*
turt.'*
Is not ** topj?y " an abbreviation, not of " top-
de/* but of **tlxe upside." Cfr. the expression
' upaide-down ^' and —
'* There found I all vrns uptv-turvy turn'd,'*
Orflcae*^ Javtti 1 V. (ed. Dyce), p* 206, caL 2.
F. J. V,
"Ths Aoti^r's AasiffTAifT; being an Epittmiy of y*
Wliole Art cf Anglings whorem is Shewn^ ftt one View,
J* Hftfbours, Seai»nnfi; and Depth* for Cutchins all Sorts
of Fish uguaiily Angled for. Ako tbe Various Bait* for
each, fi ' digeffbed as to contaia the Essance of all y*
Treatiaea ever Wrote on the Subject, exempt from tlieir
SuperHuitiee which tend more to perplex than Instruct,"
{At the foot) '*Sold by C, 0ston9on/2O5, Fleet Street
Fr. Ur
I Imve in my posscasion an engraved broivd-
flheet, meiisuriDg about 124 by 7 J Lnches^r entitled
I above, within i\n elabora^te and appro priiite
order. As there \& no date to the sheet, I shall
be ghvd to know from some angling reader of
" N;& Q." when it was publisheii S.
WiLLtAM DE Rofl, OF YoLToN.— Who was Wit-
liam de Ros^ of Yolton, parish of Alne, in York-
shire, to whom Edward L, in the thirty-fifth year
of his rei^, gnve permission to luive a weekly
market and annual fair within his manor of Halt-
whietle, in Northumberland ] Wns he the swme
with William de Ros who hud Kendal Castle from
his mother, Margaret, one of the sifters and
co-heiressei* of Peter de Brus, Lord of Skelton, in
Oleveknd ? E. H. A.
Material for larpRBSsioKS of Seals. — What
is the best material for impressions of monastic
^caU^ either to keep or transmit by post ? I cjinnot
meet with j^titta-percba .sufficiently unadiiltenited
to make a good imprests ion, and even the best
becomes brittle after a time.
Alfred H kales.
Streatbam.
Toe CoMMUiriON Table. — It is said that there
are several churclies in England where the holy
table remains |in the nave of the cbaR^h, as in
^imes paat, and has not been removed to the
I ^^fifitem end of the chancel^ or placed altar-wise.
[Informntion is requested. Edward Hailstone,
William Lord RrasBLL. — Where was Lord
'^VQlAin Russell, who wiis executed for his alleged
Cffflnplieity in the Rye House Plot, Ijorn i I cun-
iiot find the house mentioned in Lord John
Russeirs Life (fourth edition, 1853), nor in Lady
[BachePs Letter* (Miss Berr^-'a edition, 1819 ; and
' Lord John Rus^elPs edition, 1853).
S. R. TowNsiTEKD Mater.
Eichmond, Surref,
Arthur MAi^nrARi:^^,—
*' Arthur Mainwaring waa a Cominii*ion«r of t)i«
Customs and auditor of the ifliprMt'' (about IJiHfi.
Macaulay's EtMay on Boiweit't /oAiu<}a.
Where can I tind anything about liis lift
writings? F, &
A Scotch BARoyETcr. — To what n '*
original or otherwise, must I refer in ot
cover the particulars of the creation oi
baronetcy, now extinct, in the reign of Charl
J. w;
Ak Old Bookseller, — la the AMin^ M/h
zine^ for 1838-9, there are some article* pntith
*' Letters to my Son at Rome," in the '* T
niscenees of an Old Bookseller.** In one, he «aj
he is the author of Fifty Yeats' RKolUctiond <
an Old Boohsdler. Is this a septinite public4iktioii, '
and who is the author 1 Olphar Hakst,
Geometrical Reform : — \
" A body of men, able mathematidanf, mr iiow wow*
ing together with a view of improrinr ^' ?
geometrical teaching." — P. ix„ An /.
EUintnifof JSueiid, ... by tine Rev. ^. ii*«ttc>, Aiifj
. . . Load. \ . . 1874.
The names of this " body of roen^'* aod
cuhirs of their pr<3posed courae of action, w«>uld
very acceptable. F, W. F
CHANCELi9 PlJiCKD WkSTWARB. — ^Tle
Mackenzie E. C. Walcott, in Sacrf.d Atcf^d
states a curioua ecclesiological fact, that the Jc
make a rule of pkcing their chanceb ^
fll^ainat the general pi-actice of Westei^ '
dom. The fact seems undoubted, but,
reason is unknown to many, will some render (
" N. & Q/' kindly inform me through its medium I
Wm. BLACJCBrajt.
Montreal,
" The Poet " : Tektitson.— A dispnte lo
me to agk, what is the meaning of the folbn
two lines in the firat verse of tliifi poem '/ —
" Dowcr*d with the hate of bate, the acorn of soom, ]
The lovo of lo?e,*'
Jons Addis. {
IxfMuyiTT FROM Beath,— HaJi the famo
AH(/d\ found a sucx-e^sor ? It would ikfppeir (
from the following mysterious ann^iuics«iii«ni J
the Titm^ ^^ ParHamentary IntelUgenoe '' of Jd
23 la£t :—
** Lord O'Neill [in the ^ i
petition from the Rct* Tri
of St, Nicholjw WithtT ''
be tfiken to hare an \
which he supprrt- I
from death im^l
hns been avail;!
they would oul, .^ ,,, ,,
devotion aniouritin>; tu a
i«acri£U:e* syokeu of bytS>
ff* S. H. Oct. 10, 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
289
wbich foraifl he prM«ati to the Houae nlong with hit
petition.*'
Jam£s T, Presley.
SSRRXS, THE MaRDTE PaHTTEII, HIS MeMOIUS.
—Can Mr. Thoms, or any other reader of " N. &
""pj** teU me who wivjte the Memoir of Jokji
Serves^ laU Marine PamUr to Hu Ma-
' a Friend, 182(>, 8vo. pp. 52 ; also, whether
. account of Serres*s excaraion to Scotland
'a^ut 1805, illttstrated with " muny excellent
hea titkcn by him '* in the couree of it, and
I he proposed to pubiiah (m written by Thomas
■■■riecot, Grntlcman, and lUu^tnited by Don
fOiovAnm Serrcs, is Btill in existence, and if ao,
I whew? S. T. M.
TiTK Capitai, op Kent. — Is Maidstone or Oan-
Iterbury the capital of Kent? The geographies
[differ on this 8iibject| I belieyc, and I shall be
I glad of any certain authority. 6. H.
Er^Itrf.
MODERN LATIN AND GREEK VeESE.
(5«^ S. ii, 248.)
E. n. B /« list may be li^rgely extended, and
I no ' li more than I know of. I note some
l«)bvi ons :^
l*fc*Utiivh'ft Afrim (besides Epistles in Latin
^\ whif^h the author, with the frequent baUaci-
inrs about their own works, preferred
lt<> ^i aud Vanwne.
3iiiton s translations ; by some reckoned the
^ofaU.
Gri'r' ' — Vi lions.
4. Jftj! ^ translations ; of whom it was
* tt.t ui'ir^x he grew, and the more troubles
liities he bad, the more he wrote Latin
mm ; an admirable anonymotts
!tjon, from which Et^n boys U8«i largely to
I," imd I presume do still.
Jortin'f* LuAVi PoduL Theiw? I do not know^
IKul I wjM t^ld by the lute Dr. Hawtrey that they
•re rery gixni. He quoted to me a most graoefiii
line about the waxinj^ of the moon : —
*' Lonaqne mtitatsc rcparat diapendU forma*."
f^ The Sftiii Dr. ILiwtrej's Trifoglio (I mean
pmi nf it), marked by the exquisite tasto which
WM ifiyeparuble from all he ever wrote.
Straia Fodim (Dr. Kynaston) ; sroall^ but
Blr. Jf' ' ' ' tons; unsurpfis-
in skill, iKirt in beauty,
torne m mtMn ui-iv jhui ipi l>e called rather
J. tL ;,..,. ... 1. 4;rny*B Ehgy^hy
, Lord Riivens-
^^ ■" ^ "-"^t of the great
schools publish annual sets of Prolusiones or Prize
Exercises. There are also, I think, seTeral volumes
of Oxford and Cambridge Prize Poems, The
earlier Person Prize Poems were collected in one
volume. There is a most interesting Latin version
(from the gpeciaUy of the iHastrious author huving
Iain elsewhere) of a version, by Sir John Herschel,
in his extreme old a^e» but I liave mislaid it, and
Gin not recall the subject,
12. Among modems, I feel well assured that
En^land^ in this department, excels all other
nations. Bub I am acqnamted wi^ a most
masterly Greek version of Goethe's Iphiffmia^ by
Theodore Kock,
13. Comut was translated (very ill, aa I think)
by a Mr. Glasse, about eighty years aco j and both
that and Sofruon Agonigtis by Mr. Greswell.
I have adverted to the latter in the Preface to
my translation. He was a perfectly sound scholar,
but his versions, though accurate, are somewhat
cumbrous and unattractive.
14. A beautiful little posthumous volume^ by
Mr. Jjimes Riddell of Oxford.
I may mention that a few additional attempts
of my own, besides what E. G. B. notices, are to
be found in the second series of mj Ephemera,
Lttteltok.
The following tnedi{t\Til and modem books are
now in my possession : —
1. OweVs Epigramg, By Jno. Owen, of OiLford.
Etovir, 1647.
2. Lyrics of Matthias Casimir, Antwerp, 1646.
3. Golden Verse* of Laurentius Massorillus*
These are mediievnl hymns. (He was bom June,
3rd, 1490, at Fulginia, on the river Topinus.)
Printed at Fulginia, 1537. Any infornation on
the subject wiJU be thankfully received. The
book is neither in the BofUeian Libmr)' nor the
Library of Trinity College, Dublin.
4- Moral Economy of Utt Clerpj. Author,
Gummarus Cranius. Printed at Lovanc {tic). Date
sterns to be 1630. A curious book, in prose and
Leonine verse.
5. Lift of ihf Mod Holy Father Benedid.
Florence, 1586. Elej^iac verse.
6. EdofT^UJi of Utnatm Bajfimt*. Lugduni
Batavorum, 1672.
7. Pmlms of David, Transiat-ed by Arthur
Johnston. With Kote*. Lomlon, 1741. In Ele-
giac Verse. Originally published in the time of
ttenry VIIL
8. Poari^ of Theodore Bexa, Marcos Antonins
Muretus and Johannes Secundus, In 1 vol
Lugdununi, 177D.
9. J<ico6t Vanierit Pradium B^aticum, Paris,
17H6.
These bat two are Barbou^ editions,
10. ia/irt Focm^r of AbmhAUxG^i^Vfif5* l«aroA»ts
1678,
m
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[S* 8. U. Oct. 10. 71
I 9 hull bo very glad of inrornmtion on the
Bubject of liny of iliese books* If any of your
correspondents wish for extracts, I shall be happy
to furnish them. Owen is weU known, m also
Beitii, Cowley, and Johnston's P$alm^. Caaimir is the
most successful of our modern imitators of Homce.
But of MttssoriUus and Guniniunus I know nothing,
except from their books, which ore very curioue,
I share in the wish expressed by your corre-
spondent E. G. B», that some of the excellent
classical scholars who contribute to *' N* & Q."
would att'^mpt a list, with some bibliojrraphical
account, of translations into Latin and Greek
verse executed and published in England. And
it is now the more necessary, a,s, in the present
diiy, classic versification is, comparatively speaking,
BO little attended to» Yet these pages, of course,
are not the place to discuss its axlvantiiges and its
diBadvantages. I have seen most of the books
quoted by E. G, B., and can add three or four to
fiifl lilt which are in my own [x^ssession : —
"MuftOD Anglicanjc. Londmi ex Officina J. and R.
Tonson and J, Watts, jcdccxli* (2 vols,) *Editio
Quint«,*' Vlmo,
" Carmina QimdrfigCAimAlia. Oxonii, e Th«fttro Shol-
donmuo, Miicoxxjii.and MitccxLTtii. (2 yoIs.)" 8iro.
" Sclocta Foem&ta Anglorum. Editio S«cundft Emcn-
datior, Londini: Prosiant Venale*^ apud J. Dodiley,
jltoCLXxix/'
"Mudie Etonrases. Londini excttdit J. SUfford,
1795. Three Vols. (Tbe third coasutt of Greek
Versci onlirely, and there urc only two copies of Imnblcaf
amongst them/*) 8ro.
** Aiitouit Alfopi,^ j'Cdig Cbriiti oUm Alamiii, Qdarum
Libri Duo» Loadinij mdwlii/* 4to»
In an amui9ing book, Fire Years at an EnglLnh
Uinversity, by Charles Astor Bristed, publiHhed in
1852 by Putnum, of New York, is an account of
the difficulties the author of it surmounted at Cam-
rldge in acipiiring verse-writing. He aucceedcti
. mixsterin^' the art, and won the necond place in
^the Second Class in the Classical Triposes in 1845.
Mr. Brii^ted died, I believe, at the beginning of the
present year. John Pickfoed, SlA.
Newbourne Rcctoryi Woodhridgc,
** Miltoni Pabutaj, Samson AgoniBtea el Gomus, Gnece
inter?, est Edv. Oreswdl, S. T/P., C. C. C* Oxon.Sociu8.
Oxon., 1832."
•' Coleti Tnrquia, Carmen Oratulat. Atcalc^in D. R
Bchola recitat. ab 11. Kfnaaton,S. T. R Lond., Fellowei,
* This, from tbe initials V, B., appended to the
Preface, would icem to have been edited by Vincent
Bourne* of claMic fame, who died in 1747.
f Was a proper c«>py of Greek lambios ever composed
JQ modem times bcfuro the dayi of Kichard Porson 7
I Alsop was educated under Busbv at Weitminster^
waa a student of Chnitt Church, and is alluded to by
Pope in the DunHad ; —
" Let Freiod aflect to mak a« Terence anoke,
Aini AJsqp newer but like Horace joke. *
" Cantica CoIciinA, QuoUd. AnniT. Centon., AnctU*
Kynaston. bond., FeUowes, 1807.**
Ed. Mambjulll.
ttttti^
rhicbl
mtberl
" ScoKCK '' (5*^ S. il 20(5.)— J. T. F. haa
been able to make his etymology of this
or his exposition of the chiuse iu 1
Cormtituiions^ very clearly exact or s;*!
(1) There cttn be little hesitation in coiil
that **^ ahsconsa" in the clause quoted,
game domiciliary utensil with that now
as a ** sconce," wbici is that in or within
a candle, when lighted, is often pl/iced, and h]
means of which, front itJ« structure or fonn* t'
Citndle is virtually ahKO^idtd or en^corw^d^ It mo|
fdso import a la7itemf beciuise it acts as a shade, or^
screen from the wind to a c'tndle when li^'htcd, X
fiTt-$conct is clearly the equivalent of a /■
Sconce nuiy also, in a secondary sense, V
properly to a fortified position, to the biUw^ir]
and ramparts thereof, necause by the-**e the *
fenders within are concealed, hidden- \
protected. It is a tenu, however, - t
is not properly given to a candkMick, n mv
of one, inasmuch as both^ of themselves,
expose than screen, or protect, the cnndle,
gconci^ placed against walls, pillars, &c,» now ij
use, are, no doubt, so called from having gencmlV
a wide circular phme, or base, with a tumfnl
encircling rim^ within which, near the centre, 1
candle-socket is placed, and which acts so ni
receive and enclose the falling airJe, as well as
wax or tallow of the candle, thereby prev^'ntii
them dropping upon what may be imdenicnth, !
such a utensil, the candle is within a
ahsconce. It is, being so placed, virtually
or etutconcedi the former verb being deriv
aha^ from, and condo, to hide ; and the latl
III, in or within, and couth. A scoin
quently in use, is a pretext or ?:
when it is said uf one that he is sfOHmi'j.
that be is finessing, acting under cover^ or in «
hidden or conceded manner AhAttyr" ^ " "i
anatomy, is the hollow, or cavity, in a b
which the head, nr end, of another roru^^i-
(2) The clause fn>m Lanfranc*?* ' , i m , i
—the whole of which, however, n - vr^,,,,
raiher to point to the duty ot some oni> of the
brethren within the dormitcny, whicli wiw^ ihib
candle being first lighted in the " ahsconsa^*" to e^jM
round the couches of all the inmat458i, atjtl nil Xm ^
iccds or hmcJitSj to see that they were pri i
necessariis,'' u c, in all things neceesaiy* < '
to their u»e, (3) While a sconce in some jKirt '1
the kingdom may be |>ossibly applied to a cotrnmi
fur the head, it is far from clear how it cun b« de*
aignative of the head itself; only it is jti»t poMRble
that the brain maybe held as abscondoa hriU
bony covering, the cnmium^the sconce. R.
I
C* 8L n. Oct. 10, ■74.1
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
J. T. F. no doubt is right, Du Cange gives
!** Sterna^ CiPoi lucerun^a tkrk liintcrn,"and adds,
under Ahttcoiua^ ** qua MonacUi ut plurimum
Tituntiir in obeundis donnitoriis*" I have seen one
of these lAnterns at i\ neighbouring^ houiie. It is
quite rounds and of the size of an onlinjirj' football
I should iuxa^ine ** the term * sconce ' got applied
[ to the head ''rather from the shape than **with
' n?fer«hc<? to a tuTfiip lantern^'' although, in many
case*, the hotter might not be an inappropriate
deriration.
Permit me to wsk how ** Bconce " comes to mean
I tkfin*^ or forfeit In ray day at Oxford, If a man
i i;uo«>d Greek or Latin duriog "hall/* the butler
waa ordei"cd to " sconce '* him in a gfUlon of ale.
' Biuley mentions thia custom, but gives no satia-
fjMtory explanation. Eoaio^ND Tew, JI.A.
A hintcrn wiui colled Mt^nta in English mediit-val
ilihtin :— '* J^consttS . . . numjuam Prior vel Abbas
I hal>uit, nisi illaju qua* omnium cj^mmunis fuit.''—
[Bu Frtiene, Glogs. MethtF. et Infirm^ Laiiniiaiis^
[qiiotin^ MonmtUon Anglicanum, iii., 171, 331.
K. P. D. K
Tif s Old Ladt or Thrkadneedle Street (5***
I S. ii. 22!>0 — A vulgar name given to the Director
I i>f the Bank of En^and by William Gobbet t, pro-
•f the PoUliml RcfUtery because they
re«l, with their financial broom, to stem
laiitic waves of national progress. This
figure of fij^ech was founded upon an anecdote
introduced by the Rev* Sydney Smith in an
addrautt upon the Reform Billf delivered at Taunton
on or about the 11th of October, 1831, to the
following eflfect : —
'* I di> not mean to be diire«pectfii!, but the fttt«mpt of
ilie LortU to ttop the proi^re^a of Reform reminds me
TCffj f rr ibiv of the great ftorm of Sidmouth, Kud of the
1 the excellent Mrs. Partington on that occasion.
iter of 1B24, there §«t in a greftt flood of the
"' *^'^e row to an incredible height, the wavef
' hoa«et| and eveiythine wa« threatened
ri. In the midat of this aubHtne And
r>ame Partintrtou, who lived upon the
1 ;it the door of her house with mop and
i , L rikT her mop, squee ^injf out the sea water,
mnd Ti^ffjT^unly i>u9liiag away the Atlantic Ocean. The
iktlantic Ural rnu-icd : Mrs. Partington's spirit was up,
Miii f ' tell you that the content was unequal.
The ceiui heat Mr^. Purtini^ton. She wiis
•EC* p or a puddle, but she should not hare
med i tempest. Gentlemen, be at ^oar ease —
te 'i ' kdy— jou will beat Mrs. Partiogton.**
jic». .-ytinty Smithes irorjt*, vol. iii. pp. 75-76.
William Platt.
Onotrfttilve Club.
A5CIB9T EvoLrsu Sees (6** 8. ii. 47» 117.)—
i^gvrmtiM, "Lei^ra cirita^ in AngllA mediterrmneli.^'
LySuiria, Legoria, Loicovtcr {\fon. Ui*t. Brit,, &J2,
JDmmmuett^ Dunimuc, Dtmwich in 8u0otk.
f^idnachester sear Gainsborough {Afon* Miti* BrU*, 222*
The bishops of Sherborne {Sctrabymetmtjy and
Selsey (Sthit/fi)^ and Elmham Mith others sign
this itct ut Cloreshoas (Keinble Cothj- IHplom.^ n.
Mxxtv.^ vol. v. p. 65), St. Duns tan is called
" jVrchiepiscopus in Can in ana'' iT^i</. vi, p. 126),
and^Cn'stesCyrcean onCantrabyrig" is mentioned
by Cnut (p. 170). In 901 it appears as "^^ccle^iie
Christi in Dorobemia*' (lb, p. 44), Florence of
Worcester uses the term " DoR>bemen9L8 eccleisise/'
but Henry of Huntingdon has " Archiepiscopatiis
Cantuariie/' William of Malmeabury gives the
history of the sees : —
" FlurcB episcopattu Ofia in Mertiis fcccnt, et Orien*
tal'" -^ r r-i: - -f^ eorura Ethelbrih"^ -r—^mt.
E| II ali:(L8 translati (L -Jts
in I alteris uniti. ut i k^^ls
in • iiiituiia non extAnt, ut Leipicc^itreasis
et -Lib.!, p. 16.
' ^^ . V -i^u.,.. .vi«^ extulerut loco qui Scleslge dicitor
... 4 Mltigaridus mutavit scdem In Ciccstram." — Lib. II.
p. 206.
"In divisione West Saxonict episcopatus .... qui
Sciburnice sedcrct. haberet Wiltunensem^ I>arsatoiisemp
Herruchemem, Sumer^etendem, Denmoniensom, Comu-
bienaem.**— Lib. IL p. 175.
"Council of London, 1075* Concessum est epi«c«pis
de villi* tranaire ad c imitates Henmano dc Sirabuma ad
Serisbenam Stigando de Selengco ad Cicestram." — Lib.
I. p. 08.
As Dover (Doroheniia) became important the
ancient name of Canterbury (Dorooemia) was
dro|>i>ed. Instead of Castellum Drofense, iJofera,
or Do vera, it becomes ** Dorobernia litus Cantuarue"
(Lib. V. p. 377). Hoveden uses the old term,
when he 8|K?aks of the degradation of '* Stigand
Archiepiscopuii Dorctberni.e " (ed. Savile, p* 452),
and Eadmer also gives the title to Anselm (Hist.
Nov.^ Lib. TIL p. G7\ whiht Richard of Hexham
(ap, X. Script. I p. 324) adopts Cantuariiu The de*
duct ion may be safely made that the latter designa-
tion was fixed about the first <|uarter of the twelfth
century. In the-in<7/o-^'«.rott tTi ron k^^j Canterbury
appears as Cantwarabtirh, and Dover as Dofere
and Dofre. Mackenzie E. C. Walcott.
Two Chttrches in one Cburcrtard (5*^ S. ii.
208.)— The following h contribut^Mi in continuation
of the list lately commenced in ** N. & Q." of places
having two churches in one churchyard.
1. Of Westbury on Severn Sir Robt. Atkyns, in
the Antunf ami Pregtnt 8t€Ut of Olosttrshire^ 1711,
p. 799, writes :—
** The Old Church with an handsome wooden Spire at
the Wett end is yet standing in the Chorch-Yard. It was
deilicated to St, Ptt^r ; there has been an handsome new
Chare h built, 1530, in the same Church Yard, for the Use
of the Parishioners. It ha« an lile on each side aup<
ported by PillarJ, and is dedicated to the Virgin Jifary.**
An engnu iug of Westbury Court is given, which
shows the two churches, the more recent one beiny;
to the south of the oUV one, ^\i\c\i \is>Si c^^^ ^x^sr^
292
NOTES AND QUERIES^
[6* a a Oct. to. 74
sroull naye attached to a lofty spire ateople. At
present the steeple only remiiins of the old chureh.
2. Berkeley muy be placed in the Ibt, for the
tower there stands at the north boundary of the
churchyard. Of this church Sir It. Atkyns, p. 270,
aays :—
" It hftth a strong Tower ftt ft dUtBUCe id the Charcli-
Yftrd, when) nrobubly the old Church dtood. It u dcd:-
csted to the Virgin Mary,"
By some it is stat^ that the present building
of St. Mary wub the conventual church, while the
tower, rebudt In the last century, belonged to the
parochial one. A curious legend is sometimes
related, that when the religious were engaged in
erecting this chnrch, the devil removed the steeple
QM Boon as it was built, and continued so doing as
often ad it was replaoed, until, caught one night in
the act by one of the fraternity, ttemgh fright, he
let it faO where it now is.
W. P. W. PHlLLrMORE.
Nottliighaim.
At Ilrshara there are two churches in one
churchyard. William Wixo.
Steeple Aston, Oxford.
The churches of Alvingham and North Cocker-
inglon (near I^utb, Lincolnshire) are in ooe
churchyard. ¥, L,
At Trindey, in east Suffolk (witKin one mile of
Felixstowe), there are the churches of St. Martin
and St, Mary in one churchyiirfi. When living in
the neighbourhood, I was informed that these
churches were built by two sisters.
Richard SrErffENa.
I sent " N. & Q.^* (3^^ S. xii. 197) an instance of
two churches undtr one roo/— Pakefield, SuH'olk.
Charles F* S» Warbkn.
At Overstrand, near Cromer, Norfolk, the new
church IB contiguous to the old church, whiidi is in
ruins ; and at Antingbam, in the same county, near
North Wakham, a similar instance occurs.
Hic ET UniguE.
At Heponatali, in Yorkshire, are two churches
in the churcbyawi (see " N. & Q.," 3'*^ S. viii. 330).
In thin case the cause, I believe, was that it was
thought cheaper to erect a new church than to
renovate or restore an old one. Would that a
aimilAr course had been followed elsewhere, for
thus many a tine old church Ixad not been fiwept
away. H. Fishwick.
At Reephnm, in Norfolk, there were three
churches in one churchyani, and two remain. At
Fulhournt* near Cambridge, there were two, of
which one only remains. I look upon it as an
early form of foumiing chantries. In all these
1* 31 a. WAaaEN writes that one church was removed
in lTi6 bjr Act of PiurJiameotJ
cases they were separate parislics, and the- piona
founder established a priest in his new chufi-h, anil
gave him a special district to 1 • ' '< - -
in Liter times, a chantry was
the church, and the parish ju.v .. — . ,.
frying special sen' ices therein. At Ely^
Trinity Church was in the same yard wit
Cuthednd- The church was ptilled down alniuf
two hundred years ago, and the parish now i
the lady chapel of the Cathedral W. 31, F.
The Eq^esthiak Statfe rx Letcf^ster JvirAiiil
(6'^ S. ii. 40, 91.)— The following is offenhi as i
contribution to this subjects
1. In the Timts recently appeared this lelttr
from *' Anti<|uarian " : —
'* In the year 1748. on the ooncltimoo of the peftce «
Ail U Chap'eUe. the following paragraph appears in U)«l
Cr^figman of April 10 : —
* Leicester Fields 13 going to be fitted up in a veif I
elegnni manner. A new wall and raila to bo erected wt j
roaad, and a hafrn in the middle, after the mttoner fi
Lincoln's Inn Fi< " ' i W done by a Tolunl&ry sv^*
scriptton of the ir
*' A few days ai . , . „ _ nek. Prince of Walet, |
tnnaqucrade at Leicester House. The liberality 1
irdmbitantBorigintited^prohablT, ?n nHeairotn pn9
«ach fashionkible restart. In 31 " ne wo
employed ivre deforibed »« eaueitrks ij
statue of George the Fir»i^ v j»t tmni U»
country residence of the Duke of OiiuudtMi. '
2. Tijnbs's Lojidmi, edit., 1S55, p. 454^ f^ ro0
"Leicester Square," informs us : —
** In the centre, upon a eculptiired atone pedeataJ^ U ift
equestrian metal ttatae of George the Finf, niocbllttl
by C. Buchard for the Duke of Chandtw. and brou^bt
from Canon* in 1747, when it v - ^ * ty the
inhabitants of the squjire. Thi bcca
described as that of the Duke of • • hero
of Culloden, ^hieh may have artat^n from ih^
birth At Leicefler Houfe b 1721;"
.1. On the other hand^ Cui
edit., 1850, p. 2^5,^6 vacc *'L
forms us : —
" The eaucitrian etattte of George the Stemd^ in \
centre of tae square, came from Canona, In all lik *"
erected about 1751."
—But, at the aame time, informs us, p. 206| la*
voce ** Ooldrn Square "; —
'' The Btatue iti the centre was brongitt fh>m fht
Duke of Chondos's teal »t Cauonii, tmd repreaait% it ii
Skid, George the S'futid.**
JOOX PtKS.
I feel pretty con tid out that the ' '
feet enou<^h when it vanishetl IveU'
at the time of the erertion of the '.jr -v ij^
Its mutihvtion took plac^ a/tf>r the demolW
that building, but ht/om it waa n - -v.
its pe^le^tsd, which wjia adorned \vi
sculptured devices. What has
latter / W. Jp BkrxhaRD 2^1tlTB.T
Temple.
'»8.ILUOT.10,74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
293
jT«ri TJ^TKrrTTnvs (o'^ S. il 223.)— Towards
century, when Irbh rebellion
of Defendcriem (I have not
Xen itsoiiaaes — Whiteboys, Peep-o' -day Boya,
Irisbmen, and so on, down to FenintiH),
^ Us over-active members was tried and con-
at the Triju Assizes, The verdict wtw
ered late in the day ; sentence of Death nro-
ytX ; the Defender, with a large escort, har-
[ Imck to the gaol, and hanged by torch-light*
Some year or two later, one Jemmy O'Brien, a
'*dcal inforii: ' le, and of course moiiatly
by the ' . I-, was eon^-icted of a
nfl -^ r ^ he gallows by a triumphant
' hifi body out of the cart
iOn iU "V. ' ' -i.^^i..^ Hospital for dissection,
ore off the tingers, and carried them about the
itreet in their mouths like Dudeens,
Earlier in that uncompromising century, two
aeti wcjro ci>nvicted of a highway robbery, and
■Sentenced to death by Chief Justice Caultield ;
Sfhen the elder criminal turned to his felluw-
prisooer, and exclaimed — " This ia all along of
i; if you had not hindered my taking that
foUow\t life, he would not have been here to swear
Ivor lives away." *'The next blood which you
liihed," said hia Lordship, "be it on my heail ! — ht
Ifthall be spared, but you shall not see ^mother day."
I A carpenter was sent for, a frallows was erecte<i in
lihe dock, and the dcsjierate \vretch was Ixanged in
It he |iresence of the Judge an<l the full Court.
Edmund Lenthall Swiftk.
LBTCHBR, Bishop of Worcester (5**^ S. ii,
fc) — This diBtingiiished man was Buccessively
Bil^p of Bristol, Worcester, and London, in the
mgn of Elizabeth. He was a native of Kent,
L studied at Cambridge, and after having enjoyed
I for many yeara the Queen's favour, fell suddenly
ilc to a aexjond marriage, Eliziv-
_ of an elderly clergyman and
wed. He was suspended from
|hl« uQ^; for six months, but at last
'T^-J 'v^noured him by a visit
^i 15, 1596. (See /fr*-
. ill Biography,)
Neomaoub.
Jnder "Beaumont and Fleteher/' in the Impeiial
[Ditstionary of Vnivcrml Bioyrajthyf W. G, D. F,
find particulars relating to this bishop, who
I the father of John Fletdier, the dramatist.
Frsdk. Kule,
Lambeth, Dec. 14, 1589,
Jio the aee of Bristol ; tranahvted in 1593 to Wor-
nr, ni\d t',v.i Tr:\.T'. nhf^r to London. He has a
, I857t but a fuller
i in Chsilmers's CVcti,
jiiipilcd from the Bioff. BHi. ;
/ C C, C, CamhHdgt; Stirpe's
Wl'^fnifr rm, 322, 399, 418,428; Harrington^s
Br nd Neal's Puriianj*. See also *4fA<7t.
O' - . a 1815, vol L p. 146 ; vol ii. pp* 225,
43(5, im^ ba5.
Sparks HisyDERSosr Willtams.
Keiulngton Cfoflcent, W.
Srn Edward Ht-KfiEnronD (5*** S. ii. 229.)—
K, B. D. E. will, 1 think, have a correct answer in
the accompanying copy from a coffin-plate which,
in 170t\ was on one of the coffins in the crypt in
the Chapel of Farleigh, Himgerford, co. Somerset :
** The body of the Lady Jiuie Uuofperford, wife of
Sir £dvrard Hungerford* of Fitrley^ Huneerfordj co.
Sota., nnd dAughter and heir unto Sir John Het«, of
Wnnburv. in tba oo. Devon, Kt., who doceased 18 day of
May^lC^i.'
Sir Edward, who sat thirty-three years in Par-
liament, sold at the same time Iwenty-eight
manons, and, with an income of 30,(Xx if. per annum,
lived to the age of 11 n, supported by charity, and
even )>egging the last thirty yearns of his life.
Sir Edward died in London, and wrus buried in the
old church of St, Martin-in-the-Field.-^.
Bkckington.
JtiBTtcas' Wages (5«» S. ii. S28.)— The ancient
allowance wan abolished by 18 & 10 Vict., c. 126,
B, 21.
For this, and the history of the appointment
and office of Justices, see Stephen's Ctmmicni^vrim^
Book IV. pt L, vol ii. p. 681 et jie^., sixth edition,
London, 186S. Ed. Marsh all.
"LrvKa OF the EifousH Saints" (5"' S. ii.
229.) — Some years ago I Triade out the following
list of the lives of the English saints, published by
Toovey, and their authors, to the best of my know-
ledge : —
St. Wulstan, R. W, Chnrch ', St. WiUiam, E, A. Coffin;
St. Aelred, J. D. Dalgaim* ; St. Ninian, J. Bftrrow ; St.
Paulinas, St, Edwin, St, Ethelburga, St. Oswald, St
Oswin, St. Ebba, SL Adamnam, and 8t. Bepa, F. Faber j
St. Au^niAtine, F, Oakeloy; St. Gilbert, W. L<5ckhart»
and J, D. r»algaim«t ; St. Gemiftn* J, Walker ; St. Ricbardf
Kg:., St Wttljbiild, and St. Walburgu, T. Mejrick ; St.
Ednmnd, M. Fttttlsoa; St. Richard, Bp.,J. D. Oikl^irna,
or W. Lockbart ; St. Walthcof, and St. Robert, J. D.
Dttlgftirn^; St. GundkaR, J, H. ^<rwman; St. Helitf,
J, D. DalgaifTiB; St. Herbert, Qy.; 8t, Edelwald, J. H.
Newman; St. Bcttclon, prose, J. H. Newman, vene,
J. I>. Datttairna; St. Noot» J. A. Froude; St. Bartholomew^
Mid St. Stephen Harding, J. D. DalRaim*; St. Stephen
LanfTton, M, PattiHon : St. Wilfred, K Faber; family of
St. Richard, T. Merrick.
J. B, B.
DomNicAts (5«» S. ii. 228.)— The following
appe«u«d in the ExtUr and Plymouth GwsttU of
the 12th ultr—
'*I«icke, in his .Wmon'o^, iay«, *The cagtom touching
the Duiiiioicali hero waa tried in the Kinj^'a Coxtrt.^UftWL
at the Gultdbttll, aad a TreriACS. ^cjuw^^^^ VN^t ^\t«a?Cv^ *
Whereby the coatom waa ^t\d. ^ooV •, . . . tv^*. ^^««^«as.
294
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[I?> a IL Do*, 10, 74.
vru William Ratcljff^ the owner of hotue property iti
tlie poriili of St. Paulr who lued John Byuhope, the
Rector of that Parish, for £5 diLiii&ge<t for dem&iidJDg,
from one of hu ten&ntB, an excessiTe sum for Dominicals
(lie wanted threepence ft week), &nd proceeding a^inst
bim in the Court of Christianity for its recovery. The
proceedings are in Latin ; but I subjoin a tranflUtion of
10 much as eSecta the i^ueetion of the custom : —
" * Ci(y of £r£t€r.— J iihn Bysahope, clerk* waa attached
to anawer to William Eiitclyff of a plea of trespaa^ on
the caee. And w heroupon the same WllLiam, hy Richard
Buke, bla attorney, complains that whereas, in the city
of £ateter» and in the suburbs of the same ctty, such a
Cditom is, and from time thereof the memory of man i«
not to the contrary, baa bceti thnt every Hector of any
pariBh church within the city aforesaid for the time
being, for bis support Jind maintenance weekly {Sfpfimo-
natim) in the year should perceive, and ought to per-
ceive, on Sunday, of every peruon being the tenant of
any tenement called h "grounded hall," one penny, and
of every tenement called *' an hygh hftli,*' one halfpenny ,
called *' Dominical oblations," and this, so long as thoae
tenements shall be litted with tenants, and not other-
wise^ according to the custom aforc^d, heretofore used
and approved.' *' Yours faithfully,
** Ua£TU0L011£W C. GlDLEt/*
"Exeter."
H, T. E.
[S«e"N. &Q."l«8.iii.25.]
Vtllers, ViLLiKRs (5*^ S. iL 228.)— The Dames
Villejr9j Villars^ aod Viliiera are different forma of
the same appelhition, derived, according to La
Eoqiie, Traiti dc l-thiffim dts Noms^ p. 54 ^ from
the Latin ritkHum, As might be expectc'd from
this origin, the name is widely spread. The aj-
moriids contain the arms of more than thirty
distinct families of one or other form of the mime.
No one of thoae whose lirms are mvftn in Rietstiip's
AmioHal USniTal henn the pasoml lamb and flag.
The chief, and best known, famihes of the name,
are those of the Dukes de Villars, Dukes de Lau-
ragnais, Marqueases Villei'a la Faye, Marquess
ViOers^ Comte de Grignancourt, Yifliere de 11 ale
Adam, &c. The Eti^liKh Villiers family, Dukes of
Backingham, Earla of Jersey, &c>, were of old
Korman descent, and claimed kinship with the
last mentioned, but bore entirely different iirms.
J. WOODWABD.
MontroM.
GipsT Kativb Names (5«* 8. L 325.)— The fol-
lowing Gipsy surnames are probably of Oriental
origin : —
Oipijf. Hindu, Bnglith,
Graata ... .,, Greh^t ... ... Domestic, Household.
Nona „. ... No Nine.
Satona ,.. ... Sath Seven,
Toula Toula ... ... Measured.
Donea .., ... Dhanea Wealth.
Oawino.., ... Gau ,., Cow.
HatMggau ,.. Hateegaw ... Cow friMn market.
Lundio ... Lundi ... .^. Monday.
ClVlLIS.
GirsY Christian Names (5"» S. ii. 222,)—
Me* Gboome shoald read Tent Lif^ (^lefean.
King & Co.), by Mrs. Hubert Smith. My god- 1
child, Esmeralda, the heroine of that book, since J
married to its author, is a genuine ^"^ Bom i
Romraany,'* and her brother's names are No '
Zftchariah. I found a gipsy family near
Heath, — tm veiling near Ascot Heath I mean,-
the Christian names, or rather prr t^h
do 7a, Plato, Jemima, Tobias, Jack,
and Britannia; and I shall neT'eTfoi;^
phant air with which ** Britanyer, sir,' was gi^^*!
as much as to say that **gii>sy though we be, 1
we 're patriotic folk, and have no objection to rule I
the fsea. Your correspondent will iind, I think,/
that contact with '^gorgioa*' hua gone some war 1
towards obliterating the distinctiveness of gipsy ^
pramomina^ and that certaia tribes iLnd locaibtie*
favour certain names. S. B. James.
Northmarston.
A gipsy tells me that she gives all her duldreo
"Bible names"*, one son being called '*GolUi*
[Goliath] ; another "Dybrees" [qu. Dives n,
a daughter *'Viriamcnta." Joseph Bice, M.D.
St. Neot'B.
The name of Gilderoy Scamp occurs at FoIk&-j
atone. Rardrig Morpbt^.
Double Christian Names (5"^ S. il 226, 271.)
— It has since been stated in the (hiardiany
the date **7th February, 1679 (79-80),'' (not
Nov., 1680,'' as Mr. Ward gives it), is an enoLi
It abould bo 157!*, There would liave been m
extniordinary in a double Christian name in 1679,
Recently, in i\ note on Sir Edward Maria Wing
field, I quot-ed a paragniph from Camden, in
he teUi* us what he knew about "two CJ
names in England '^ ; and I again transcribe
several papers have discussed the subject withoat,*
aB far as I have seen, mentioning Camden's nemurk
*' But two Chriatian names are rare in Englnnd^ 9hi
I only remember now his Mejeatj who was naiaedi
Charlet Janus, aa the Prince his sonne Henry Fredtne;
and among prirate men, Tkonttu Mann Win^iUidf tiul
sir Thomas Pottkvmus Bobby. Although it ii couiti
in Jtahf, to adjoyne the name of some Saint, in a kii
of dcrotlon to the Christian name^ 08 Johannet Bapi
Spinula; Johanna Francucm BorkomruM, Mm
Anioniut Flamimnt: and in .sytaitK to adde Ibe
of the Saint on whose diiy the childe wa« bome***'^-^ Bt^
metin4t concerning BrUaine. . , , Written by Williim
Chmdon, Bsquire, CJarenceux, King of Armef, Surnamtd
the Learned. The lift ImproMton. ... By the indualry
and care of John Philipot, Somenei Herald. Loocktt
... 1637." P.4i>.
With regard to Thoma.s Dooley Pyp's claims
a donble Christi:in name in the middle of the «
teenth century, the Saturdijiy lUvicw mikkea
following observations : —
*' It see ma that the Tarn worth regie ter . , . cqqI
or is paid to contain, an entry of a doublo Clmttian
which waa fint faid to bear date in IttTd^ ^nd aCWiwtf^
by a bolder flight, in 1&7U. The uncooaeioaa nitjvct ti
i&x. fticvi^U it reported to hear the nmmfj
ff»8.1LOoT. 10, 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
TUomu IkioUv Pyp. u wortUy fellow of Geoffrey CUeeso-
«od-breiid» am<1 HuKerua t)«;us suivet'iloitiinu. >Ve sLould
lik* to know if*b«t the tiatue wt>uld redly turn out to be
if brought before the cyva of anv one who c&n I'ckU
nimnuBcript ; for we know very well wliiit may come of
the imp«taoua zesl of a newly a^vpointed incumbent, wlio
oflen nerer fKw a register, before^ And who natui-ally
IUmIs woaders in the? register wUich \» put under lais owu
keeping. One wbo can read mauiucriptB of all a^^ea haa
tiiBdQ ib9 gatM that the reading nuij very likely be
^TboiBoa Dooley,^7. pcp,'—'fkl\u6 populi ' beintj a com-
njion way of entering members of the clas^ which took
in Williani the Conqueror. Ther* is, therefore, a fair
ckdnco that thii bearer of a double Chriatian name at
Tamworth iii 1579 may turn uut to be on*' of those bas-
tard Blips whicK according to the apocryphal writer,
I to Ur. t^baWt in the dayit of Edward the Fifth, are
\ likely Ui take root. Thouiafl Dooley Pyp may be
_ Uy Mt a^ide till we know more about him^ and ne
nmy rest tati^fied for a while with the undoubted cn»e
of Anthony Ajhlcy Cooper, more than forty years t&ter/*
Or Hither with the undoubted cases of Thnmua
MnTia WiDjirfield and Thomas Postbumus Hobby,
Sparks Henderson WtLLiAiTs.
Keneingtoti Crescent, W*
Aitet all, " Robert F. Herry " may have been
I only another way of writing " Robert Harri-
1 «>a •' ; the '* Fr stfljKiing for *^ Fiiz " or " FUiua.''
I HucU variutions of this imtiie had not yet fallen
out of prjKtice in that tige^ W. Harrison, author
of the IhArriptiOH of Britain preHxed to Holin-
shed, has l>ecn observed to hjive written his name
I as ** Hfin"i5<on " :ind " Henryson,^* bt>th in the siiioe
t author of the concordances the
ert Harrison the Brownist f*
TiioMiVS Kerslake,
Brtsiol
Is Fisher Bilke Went worth a case of a double
f Cbriifrthin name at all i Is it not a case of a double
r of that rarer form still main-
v^ etiquette bv some of the old
- / This gentleman was ri^ifhtly
I Ftjsher DUke, otheTwise Wentworth, Le.alitu.
in the sauie county, we have Hamon, or
bnnion, alUt* < 'larke, of Willoughby, Clarke
I HamoDi the generations alternatLng,
H, C.
b« PaU Mali Output, of the 5th inat,, layB :— '* A
oiident in Derbyshire writes :— The records of the
* rrtnrt<< r^f r>»-Tby»hir»e fointain an example of a
umame (probably
lest yet remarked.
uccura among the
'■r«caipi4ttt-iicti \n the third year of Philip
a flrreat inquidtion of the Ubertie« which
!'-:*k ciiiittied to h ■ ' ]u those
LiM and how, an i t time
t At un earlier i j. taken
i^uc iu the flinteenth year of Edward I.^ the
I mostly disttnguiahed by * place-naine*/ such
[ of Longiden,' * Clement of Ford," ' Peter of
bat there i» al^ ' William, son of the Smith
' Tlie -writer wishea this to be conaidfired na a coo-
I of hlM naVSf ante p. 27LJ
of Bradwell,* on the same paueh There are families
l»eiiring these names at the present time h)cated in Der*
bynhirc ; ar^d it is not improbable that the same habit
which changed ' Clement of Ford ' into Clement Ford,
altered the ttyle of * William, son <;f the Smitii of Brad-
weil ' ioto the compound name.|AV'illiam Smithson Itrad*
welL Extended reseirch amorig old records would pro*
babty reveal «'arlior itiinianGea of compound uame« and
Khow the pruceaa through which they were engrafted
upon Eugliah nomenclature.]
Is A Change of CimisTiAN TCamr Possible ?
(5**» S. ii, 24R.) — By a Constitution of Archbishop
Peclvham, a.d. 12Sl| the name of a child might be
altered, under certain circumatanceR, by the Bishop^
at Confirmation. See Johnson's Coli of Ecc*
Laws, vol li,, con. 3, A.D. 1281, In the note
annexed ia the following : —
"Of old, the Bishopt at Confirmation, pronounced the
name of erery child or peraon coLkJirmea by him« and, if
he did not approve of the name, or the Person himself,
or hi« frienda^ desired it to be altered, it might be done
by the Biahop i>ronottncing a new name upon his
miniate ring this Kite^ and the Common Law allowed of
the Alteration. But, upon the Kcview of the Litarg:y at
King Charlet'a Restoration, the Office of Confirmation
ia altered aa to thta point. For now the Biahop doea
not pronounce the name of the Person confirmed, and
therefore cannot alter it."
How far the learned canonist is correct in his
conclusion h atjuestion which must be left to those
who are more learned ia ecclej^iastical and com in on
law than I am. I should add that the alteration
in the Contirraiition Service was made in 1552, not
in 1662.
M. D. wiU find much very interesting informa-
tion on the question propounded by him in
MaskeU'a Monnmcnta Ritualut, voL i., ** Diaser-
tativ)a," pp. 216-19. Amongst other authorities,
he (luotes Lord Coke, who says :-^
' ' If a man be baptised by the name of JTUnuu, nnd
after, at hia Confirmation by the Bishop, ho is named
John, his name at Confirmation &ball atand good. And
this wan the caM> of Sir Francis Gawdie, Chief Justice
of the Court of Common Pleaa, whose name, by Baptism,
waa Thomaf, and hia name of Confirmation Francit; nnd
that name of Francia, by the advice of all the Jud^a,
he did bear, and afterwarda uaed laall hia purchasea and
granta."— 1 Init 8. CHted« Bum'i SccL Lav, vol il,
p. 10.
Bum observes upon this case, " This aeemeth to
be altered by the Form of the present Liturgy,*'
and then quotes the iwte froiu Johnson, which I
have given above. Maskell, however, sivyi that
" Dr. Burn's conclusion, that because a Bishop,
according to our present Book, does not^ and^
therefore, cannot^ if he sees just reason, pronounce
the name at Confirmation, seems io have no
weight.'' If you will give me space, I will, in
another number, state an interesting case, wliick
occurred in 1707. E. C. Harikotonv
The Cloae, Exeter.
A Oinstian name, that is, a HAme given In bap-
tism, can only (if at all) be chaxv^^ ^X» w>tsS\T«jac-
mm
296
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6» 8. U. Oor. 10. 74.
1
tion ; but it seetus doubtful whether any bishop
would now conseDt to do it. In the Sarum Offic*^,
and in the fir!*t reformed one of 1549, a Chri^tiiin
name wis used in confirmation^ thus givinsi oc*
cftsion for a chiinge. In 15o2 tlua iwe was removed ;
but the practice of cbtinging the Ufime stil! con-
tinii«i, though rare ; tlie hist two inaLauces known
are in 1707 and 1761. See Blunts Book of
Church Law, p. 58,
Charles F. S. Waerjen, M*A.
"Hic LIBER est/' &c. (5*^ S. ii 227.)— The
epigram is, I believe, Scaliger's, It is quoted in
Sir W. Hamilton's i>iacuMiOfts, &c., in the originaJj
but I cannot lay mj hand on the passage.
F. Storr.
Is Senex aware of the following lines, ainiilar
in sense to his own : —
** One day nt least In crcry if^tk,
The BtcU of every kind
Their doctriae§ here ftre ture to te%k,
And just OS iure to find.'*
They are to be found in the Preface (by Prof. De
Morgan) to th^tt interesting work From Maihr to
Spirit f by G, D, Tu-sa-fcj,
" Like to tfie damask ro6e you sek ^' (5^ S.
ii. 227) is by Francia Quarles. It begins thus : —
" LUco to the daniiuk rofo you fee.
Or like the blosiom on tha tree,
Or like the dainty iowera of May,
Or like the moral ng: of the day.
Or like tUe aua^ or like the Bhades^
Or like the f^ourd which Johm had,
Ercii euch is man, whose thread it, apxm,
Drmwn out, and out, and so m done.
The roee withe ra, the bloAftom biejalethi
The ftower fades, the morning wastolh.
The sun setip the shadow fllei.
The gourd Goniumes, and man he dies*'*
A lively parody upon it will be found in the
Iloxhurghe Odlection of Ballads, i. 208, and in the
Balhul Society's reprint of them, Part IV. p. 12.
The fact of a parody arj:^He« a certain amount of
popularity in the original production.
Wm. Chappell.
Rahel : Editions of the " Breeches ^* Bible
(5«* S. i. 388 ; ii. 133, 198. 238.)- Hic et Ubique
givea his "Breeches'* Bible (15r>!) edition) credit
or thi« word in Jeremiah, ch. xxxi,, v, 15, I have
ien different editions of this version, more pro*
perly called the "Genevan Version/' in all of
which it may interest him to know the word is
rendered Eaheh It is so spelt in the first edition,
15G0, where **and" before "bitter weeping" m
in iUlic5, ji3 also in the 15J»9 edition, which your
correspondent has not noted in h is quolution. In the
second edition, called " Bodley's" { 1562), it is Ridjel,
and "and" is in bnickets. The third edition,
** Crispin's ** (1568 or Ibm), is as the first, A
Me edition (1611) \mA "EiLhd'' also. When
Keomagcs can supply the information, I fcliai!
glad to learn through " N. & Q/* bow man;
editions there are of the " Breeches " Bible,
Francis Fur*
Gotham, Bristol.
I am sorry to be unable to answer Htc
LTbique's query regarding the " Breeches Bilaleu^
My edition (1594) hiiH a very elaborate fronti;
and bears " Imprinted at London by the Ik*;
of Christopher Barker, Printer to the
most excellent Maieatie, 15f>4," and ha* ai
to it the " Whole Booke of Psalmes, Collect
Euglish Meetre by Thomas Sternhold, lahn
kina, and others, conferred with the Hebrue|.
apt notes to Hing them w^ithall," and is prini
*' John Windet for the jrVssignes of Ricliard
15 94." Hr' rt Ubiqub quotes from Matt. iL lei^
— "In Rha mn wa^is a voy ec heard , t i n . a r n i n
weeping, and howling." My edn
" Rhama/' " RamiX " ; and for ** ^ "
lamentation/^ I should be glad, like iiic
Udiqce, to know how many editions were is«ue<
I may draw Hic et tTnigiTE's attention lo an ad^
vertisement which appeared in "N. & if J*
Aug, 29 last, of a " Breecbes " Bible, date 157
for s,ale. There seem«, therefore, to have been
least three editions. NfioKAnrs.
Tlie Genevan Version of the Holy Scnptnwit c
the coiuuionly called " Breeches" Bible, was isMe
in numerous editions. Anderson, in hi a lift up- '
pemled to The EnglUh Bible, 1845, gives 1S9
editions to the year Ifill, and hr kv^. " we
safely assert that, by 1616, lU
the Bible and New TesUimen i
" but the Genevan Bible still i^ontinued to '
issued, and by the King's printer, as well
Edinburgh and Amsterdam/' He name* i
in 1613, 1614, 1615, 1616, 1633, 1640, and
"In 1(34&, the present Version wa» printed wH
Genevan Notes by way of iiuslaatf it into faroa
about this poriod it prevailed, and took the placol
occupied cTcr since*
Samctel SaiJi&i
Andover.
In my " Breeches '* Bible, " Imprinted
by the Deputies of Christopher Barker,
the Queens mf>^^ ,.^ , n. ,.t \i ,.»,.. i
miah xxxL 15 i
says, " In Kaiu. ^ -
weeping and great lamentation : '
for her children and would uol 1
cause they were not,*' and not ,
says it is in his edition, " wei|' _
Clark?*/
CERKVLqi^ (5t»> S. i. 485 ; ii. 33.)— T-
well to supplenicnt the remarks of Dr, '
by pointing out what Zcuss has imid upD^^
Celtic woni. The author of tho Grami
fi» & 11. Oct. 10. 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
CV/fuxt (first edition^ pp. 135 and 7H.S) ghows tliat
\ tlic c IB ccrr b only the secondary form of m, Jind
tliat wf» Trjfiy Jtcoordingly take coi-vi-^ rrirm-, iw* the
priit I of the n^juie of the Celtic beer.
AtL itr'tpfiit ; Dioisw>ridea, tcovfifti ; the
old latm Uretik Glosaury of Ptuloxenus and
TJlpian, ciirmai. To these nocient evidenceB,
pbint-ttfimM^ &c., laan y fra^ment-^ of the old < I . . L i
gives the word as ** eurmi or c(!:rvu(t.*- The ttlu< r
Welsh niid < 'OniiBh forms cited byZeues (which do
not, howevtr, go further buck than the twelftli
centnr\'; are kurtf^ kuruf ("© curroi, ccTftia*%
f^jTuf and ^ore/.
May I btj pennitted to remark that Dr.
I CllARJfOCK, in his 4UoUtion from the fAhnogenU
Oauloi^ty has omitted the Iriisb and Krse fomis,
vhich :ire duly t^^^'^Q ^7 I**^ Bellognet I The
omision ia important, for the iTiali form is coirm^
tnirm^ gen, corma, juid this, it will be seen^ by
preserv'intf ihe nidicat m, keepa nearer to the
priniarv *fnrHi lliaii any of the vaj-ialions in the
!l the ending (if the word (cerv-ino,
f-iaa) lo rje explained. Is it not poaaible that
n key to its meaning ii* prei^erved in the old Irl«^h
fWom aSf aitSt given by O'Reilly iis a name for
l^drink of any kind, " such as milk, ale, beer, water'* ?
lie Gallic word etrri<ut (which seciaH the
able »pellinji,0 ^'^^^^ hardly liavt* anything to
I far, tit lej4*t^ ns doriviition is eour^rned, with
, an Italian deity, unknown to the Gauls b}''
iln.li h it is, of course, possible that
<i and tcrvuia contain a root
Md of grain.
ilaninjersmiih.
UksRTTLBD BAROKJtTClKS (6** S. i* 125, 194,
^£52; ii. 10,)— Mr. Pa^misgiiam havli 1
out the fiUlfuy of W, M, h idea, that
inciireetty established, under a iJecree ta i-<i>n:e
in iKiJl, cannot now be adied in tjiie^tion, I
ab
noiher.and i^till more
ith the same object,
,. . a to an hereditary title
from Uio crown decided by t\ jury of
ng country gentlemen. Were the
It* of Liniitations of utiy Avtx'd in such cnie.'?,
. ^f, infi'r , wh;«t would be easier tlian for a
r means and dit?cretion, so
, that at the expir;ttion of
iLi iiud he might "and
•o vrn of one of : .iire** !
L ul tiUii? could be suflii i»_rjl to msike
nt any mle &* rc^pi^ly heredAt^;ry
I imtoBoe how the mil man may bo igno^^d,
I 111 ay mention the following ciwe of *' multiple
poinding," decided in a court of law bo late tts
1872. A testator made a special remainder in
favour of his natur^il »on^ a »ur^feon in the army,
and this remainder eventually fell due to him*
fiut he hiid left the service many years before, and
had last been heard of ut the Cape of Good Hope.
Ko inquiries were instituted by the next legal
representatives, who simply daimed the remjiinder
And gained their suit, in the absence of any one
n presenting the lost intended beneficiary* Here,
Lhcn, was a ciise legally decided iu favour of inter-
lopers ; and if the true residuary legatee should
turn up to-morrow, and has not the means where-
with to recover the money in question, who can
doubt the result I If this can luippen by a legal
process, arising from a will, what might not happen
where a claim was mnde to a dormant or abeyant
title ? My own opinion is that Mr. Passi no ham's
suggestion is a good one, but that the proceedings
in such cases should be of even u much more public
character than his su^^gested procedure woidd
imply ; and thftt due preliminary notice of the
adjudication on the claim should l>e published in
the principal home and colonial newspapers for six
months. S,
A Jew'8 Will : Praters fob thk Bead (5**»
S. i. 44S), 49G ; ii. 38, 78.)— Prayere for the deiid
are usual amongst the Jews* ; they are mostly said
on the Sabbath for a year after a death, a sum of
money being given to charity, or townrda the
synagogue, on each occasion, by the person who
requests their being read ; it is conttideretl com-
plimeDUry amongst the Jews for one i>er»on to
have them read if a friend luis lost a relative ;
they are said, aa is usual in the Jewish service, in
the Hebrew language. The reason of there being
ten Rabbis m«ntioned in this will i.v, I auppofcse, tlmt
the testator, being a verj* religious man, thou'^bt it
would fuid to the solemnity of the pra^cns if they
were read by more than one ; but it in only usual
for the ofljciiiting minister to read them.
B. G.
Prayers for the dead are in regular us© among
the Jews. The first notice is 2 Mncmbe^ xii. 44,
" For if he hfki not hoped tkit they that were
alain ehould have risen again, it liad been
superfluou'^ aud vain to pray for the deiid/' Next
we have the ' ' ' V hut probable one* of St. Paul
pniyin- for is (2 Tim. I 18). A full
acct5unt of pi it-- i^tv the desul among the Jews
w^Jl be found in Bu\t<>rf r Sijtiagoga Judaica^ cap.
idix., from whence I give the following epitome :
"Children mourn for their jmrtnt* for • whole year.
They oujjlt to recit<? a pmytr, called u-*"i"^ cncin day,
for Wwy 1»elieve that the f*tbcr ta frecil H -ry
cm tins confUtion, Jm|ijoa* men remuiii ly
for twelve vholo monthit; the more pious tiiey fcrcj tiie
logtier tbey are dclifcrod from iC
ii
298
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^ S. IL Oct, 10, 74.
In the Talmud it is written {Eoih Hcwc/tanaA,
foh 17, 1):—
*< Sinners, Inraelites at well as GentUef, deBcend in
their own body to Gehenunh, and there for twelve months
suffer torment The body is consumed, and the Boal
reduced by fire to u«bc5, whicb the wiud by itg own
blast puts under the feet of the ri^'bteoua. As saitb tbe
Prophet (MftL iv. 3), iinnters, traitor*, apostates, &c.,
remain in it for crer ; where their worm meth not, and
their fire is not (xueuohcd."
Not only the son prays for the dedd every Sab-
bath, but also tbe whole ayna^^ogue, chbfly for those
who have given much alms and done good deeds.
The prayer is as follows : —
"Kemember, O God, for good tbe aoals of Rabbi N.
or Lady N., who has pono into Jife eternal, with tbe soul
of AbrmbaiD, Isnac^ and Jucob [or if it be a woman ^
Sarah, Bebekah, Hachel and Leah], wbo live in Paradise;
since K. N. or L. N., bi* son, or bis neigbbottr, is ready
to give 04 much as hia intention woufd determine, in
almsy or in oil for the lamps, kc^t for the expiation of
his BOul| and may Iua God rcmcmlier for good ; may God
bestow on him rest, that it may be well with him, and
that his soul may be bound up in the bundle of the living
in life etemah in paradise, under the throne of ^lory.
May he rise in tbe time of the revival of the dead, wad
sing with the rest who are sleeping in the dutt, as it is
written, * Thy dead men sbnil live, my dead bodies shall
rise ; awake und sing, ye that dwell In the dust/ And
to N. bis son, or neighbour, or friend, grant a pood reward^
and a prosperous life^, in this world and in tbe world to
come, Fidfll tbe prayers of his heart, and of our hearts,
for good ; Ml ay «at ration shortly spring up in him and in
us. Thy will be done, AmenJ
This pniyer is chilled *' The ^lemorial of Souls.^'
E. L* Ble:«kinsopp*
MtrsTc TO " Macbeth " (6**» S. i. 486 ; il 95.)
— All the dictionaries and biographies »|i[iote from
one another, and verify nothing, so that an incorrect
assertion once made gets to be believed from it«Ki-
tion. In the Diettonary of Miidciatig, 2 vols. 8vo.,
published by Messrs. Sainsbujy & Ca, 1824, it
suys: —
** It is well known that Lock was the composer of the
music to Shakspeare's pluys of MacheiA and The Tempeit,
as altered by tSir William Davcnant.'*
Unbickily it giveis uo date. In Haydn's Uid.
Biog.j it is said that ht? composed the music for
Mai'heth in 1G72, and died in lfi77. In the
Universal Bioijraphy it s^iys that *' the time of his
death is uncertain/' Mr. Chappell, in his Popular
Music^ &c», x>. 479, eaya that the music to Mai^bdk
was not printed to Lock^a lifetime j but in 1666, in
Mu^c'i Ddi'jht^ there is a tune called '^Macbetb^
** J^gKj' ^^^it ho is reported to have comjiosed the
music to MfJ4:bdk in 167(1, i.e. four years later. As
to its having been lost, not a word is said. At any
nite, it is only the music of the second act that
has ever been attributed to Leveridge. The music^il
dictionary referred to above seem.s to consider that
this is only a mistake made by Rowe in his edition
of Shakfiiieare, and out of which mistake all this
blundering and doubt and reiteration of error
seems to hare sprung. Again, Rowe's exprc^sioq
is that it was "set" by Jjeveridge. Now thil'
might very well mean only a transposition
re-setting to suit the voice of Rome
singer, or even for a part to be sung 1^ ,
for Leveridge was extraordinarily vain uf hla voiu
and oflered in 173(> a wager of IfK) guineas to «in
a ba^s song against any man in Enghmd. "
published his pocket volume of songs in 173
The internal ev^idence of those^ I should fai
would wholly dispose of his claim to Lock's musie
He appe^irs to have been a bud poet, a j
musician, and a coarse singer. InX'k wus a 1 '
musician, a pupil of Gibbons, tmA recognij
excelling in dramatic music. One can
doubt who was the real author. Jivcobs, or^
of the Surrey Chapel, re-arranged the music
Macbeth for the voice and piano. C A. Ward.
Mayfair.
LtTNAR Rainbows (5"» S* L 427 ; n. :j:i ;— Mr.
Symes speaks a little too positively when hv
asserts —
" Rainbows, both solar and lunar, are Invariably dif (^tlf
opposite the luminary by whose r&ys they are cauftd :
and tbe spectator necessarily turns his back to tbe joki
or moon, as tbe cuse may be^ when looking full face uputi
the rainbow.'*
The possible number of rainbows caused 1^ the
same min-cloud is infinite. The two nc^arest to
the source of light, and generally the brightes^t. are
opposite that source. But the third ;*; ' '
are formed around the source of light,
tinue thus in paira. The conditions ol
of the third and fourth bows I will not attempt td
discuss in **N, & Q." For myself, I have ^tem
but two lunar rainbows in my life. Both tht^ie]
were opposite the moon. Jabkz.
Athenseum Ctub.
CORPSKS ENTOifBED IN WaIXS (5**' S. it. 18
234.) — I detected my blunder after it was loo hil^
but I thank Mn. Mtckletiiwaitf. ull the mme,
He will not, I hope, take it amiss if I point out i
him an ** odd mistake which he has nn '- ' '
He says, in the eotirhtsion of his first j
** Bede speaks not of a coffin in the ini. .i
wall, but of a wall in the middle of a coJHu"
italics are mine. Wliat can be meant ** liy a i*ti
in the middle of a coffin ^' ? What Bede says
this: ** Utraque in una theca aed medio pariet
divisarechidens"— two corpses buried in one grav
but divided by a partition wall ; not ** u wall '
the middle of a coffin," which is nonsense, bnt I
wall between two. Edmitxd Tiiw, ^LA*
Mrs. Skrrks (5«^ S. ii. 141, 177, SiaV— 1
Mr. TnoMS is on this subject, I ho; ^
it with the thoroughness he gcni
what h« undertakes, and give us a ii?i •! ^viirjtjj
about the " Princess " as well a& by licr. In *
6" 8. n. Oct. 10, 7*.)
NOTES AND QUERIES.
299
I
Britl&h Museum h the following work : I7i^
Wronf/s of the Prin^t$ji Olive of CHmb€rland^ by
Eliziibctli Wright Macaulay, London, 1833, 8vo.
Olphab Hamst,
[Mb. Cbk. CToocb itatea tbat this peraon, about Mtr
yeftrft «mc«. wrote ftevenU astrological ariickf, which
were publiihed bj Raphael in hUAitrtUocertkc, signing
lier naiue aa *' Uiive, PrinccHa of CamWrland." Mlt.
r Coo ft £ WW infonaed bj the lato Commander Morriaon,
f JK.N.» UtMt he powMBflied her horoflcope, and that;»
l^eving the ctaiind of her daughter, JjaTinin, in he Jast,
he prtpftrod her Appmlfor RotfaUy, lak li^fiS, selecting
\ doeomentf from the Morning Po$(, kc.^ for this purpoise,
I before the ie^ proceedings occurred J
"Taking a Sight'' (5**^ S. ii. 166» 234, 255.)—
The crriginal of Db, Dixon's cjuotation^^ — memoriier
— of a jwutsage "in one of the Latin drnnmtists,
either Terence or PkutUB," is given in the Fseu-
dolus of Plautus, Act iv. sc. 7, i 46 (edition Wetse),
aa foUowB:^ —
" Atqu« in banc ictende digitimi ; hie leno etst.'*
From the subjoined qiiotationsy it will be seen
that the middle finger— hence called " famosus "
(aB the third was called *' mcdicusj'' or ** medic in [ili.s/*
from its supposed unatomiail connexion with the
lieart) — used to be jjointed as a token of insult
And contempt, and the /or«-tinger, ** Index," to
direct attention to some notable person or thing :—
1. Isivi. Iviii. 9—
' If tboti take away from the tnidtt of thee .... the
finiting forth of the finger"
2. Juv. Sat, X. 53—
•• Mediumque ostenderet ungueoi:"
3. Mart., Lib. ii,, Epig. 28, 1| 2—
** Kideto muUum ........
iJixerit, et dlgitum porrigito medium."
(CI Lib. vL, Epig. 70, 5, *' ostendit digituni/')
4. Pere. ii. 33—
*' lafuni digito et luitralibtu ante s&liris.*'
1* Per^. Sat., I 28—
^* At imlcrum digito monfltrari et dioie>r ' bio «■! ! ' ^*
Hor. 4, Camt, iiL 21-22—
** Totttzn niiineriH hoc tui eat ;
Quod moMttor digito praetereuntinm.**
S« At ft feast, to point out any unnoticed
loothflouie diJihes (Hor. 2, SaL vVil 25, 2«) —
** Nomcntaauft ad hoe, <^ui »i t]\nd forte lateret
Indk-G uionitraret digito/'
I Would submit, however, that us no allusion m
in any of these p^issogeB to putii^t^ tfu
to tht noiif, neither to the tip nor yet t^ the
,-;,j.. ,t' Mv. ,..,..-. •i.T . -nnot even freely
tic 'if a iightJ* The
jKa- he- *n rendered,
%f ■ 'ii,ui li .in > ..[ujexion
H, B. PURTOK.
XiiLL i^MTiyo (5»*S. i. 1S2, 274^ 312, 455.)—
The I wo buDads, "Wedneabury Cocking" and
**Diirlaston Bull-bait," were written by a Mr.
Probyn, a gun-maker at Birmingham. H. S. G*
NOTES OK BOOKS, ito.
NOTES FROM THE OCTOBER PERIODICALS.
Thk N*» Quarterly Magazine has its aaual attractiva
variety of fact and fiction. ^Ir. Latouche, in his ** Notes
of Tra?el in Portugal/' conununioates a fact which maj
not be widely known. *' The Christian era wm not in
general use in Portugal till about the middle of the fif-
teenth century. Till then, the Portuguese unially
reckoned from the conquest of the Peninsula by the
Romans, b.c?. 33. . . . In all dates on Foriii uu-
mentfl or charters before 1470 or 1480, u is
apparent reason against it, it is safe to i rty-
cight vearfl/* — In the Cornhilt (besides that power-
ful and thoroughly original novels •* Far from the Mad>
ding Crowd"'), there ia a brief paper on ''FormoBa,'*
which contains as much information as many a volume.
One Formoaan regulation will startle some readers,
namely, " the law vi^hieh provides that no child bom bo*
fore its mother has reached the age of thirty^seven shall
be allowed to lire/' — From ever-amuBing Temple Bar ytt
gather that the librarv of many thougand volumes left
t»y Kapok on 1. to the people of JKlba as a free library is
in a wretched condition. ** Numbers of volumes hftTe
been lost, others are so wcrmenten and otherwise in*
jured as to t>e unreadable ; they are now left to moulder
on their flhelved, no one being allowed to read, or even^
unless by special fjirour, to see them." — Macmi/lan
would be eagerly read, wore it only for Profes^njr Huiley s
article on *' Priestley." There is one point in it well
worth noting ;— ** Though Priestley did not belicTe in
the natural immortality of man, he held, with nn almost
jiaiife realiitm, that man would bo raised from the dead
by a direct exertion of the power of God, and thence-
forward be iraraortaL" iVof. Uuxley quotes puMSges
from Archbishop Whately tind from Bishop Courtenay
(Kingston^Jumivica) toKhowthnt the opinionshcldby those
prela tt!s were $ub:< U n tial ly ide n tlcal with those of Pri^tley.
The Uit named, among other reforms, ndvocAted that of
the *' Thirty-Nine Articles" by removing thirty-eight
of them t ** It is a reproach,"' he said^ ""'to any Chris-
tian establishment if every man cannot claim the benefit
of it who can say that he believes in the religion of
Jesas Christ as it is set forth in the New Testament." —
The Popular Sdenci Remeio lias a capital article lyn
** The Song of Fishes," by Mr. Galton.— The *SL Jamti'tt
Magasint tempts it5 readers by a yery interesting article,
" Leigh Hunt and Dr. Soutbwbod Smyth/' by Mr. S, H.
T. May*3r. From this we make a note of a fact recorded
in a letter from Dr. South wood 8myth to Leigh Himt, who
had attended or^e of the great physician^s leoturea^ in
which, says Mr. Mayer, "he desired to give women an en-
lightened knowledge of the laws of health, and a deter-
mination to pay them a rroHonable obedience," Dr.
Smyth's letter I* du ted in 18^2. ** Several years ago/' ho
sayt^ **I gave tho first Ici^ture that had ever been
delivered on such a subjict in I^trndon. Now the ladies
form, I think, half the nudicnce."— The most Mrioofl
j»rticli? in tbf* S\ .^'t...irV.i, |,v M^it^r Kvtin? P>fl!, on
- V . ■ , , :. ij,^^^
p,.. it
V i ut
pu, . . ...... dc-
FCripUL'n .[ ii^-toiA, t'v ji Ui^lnriuti, t„hfiK-ly, ^ Mr.
Froude ,— ** It often s-ctm* to me ms if lii^tat^ v.«&\SiA "^
300
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5»»S,IL Oct. 10,74.
child's box of leiiere* vtith Ti-bich you can pt><?)I nnr words
you pleitie. Wc hare only to pick ciiit surt wc
want, arrftnge them a; we like, und :si*} ( it
ibcmivbich do not suit us." A curirms - , Ik-
lore comes to UB from an arttele on " Present iJustouiA in
j^outb Germany," wbich la «ipprnpr!»te to tbi* scAson : —
" In many placeg, tbe Batter lea- ' ' ^ t of corn
standinjif in the field, ami the t; . on the
tree. ' Tliat is for Wo<len, f « ^ he j^nys
myffterioiiflly, when questioned, ll thm ati uf piety be
nrglected, the grouna or tree whence all has been taken
will bovr no fruit next ye»r/'~-VVe coucltide \riih a word
of warm praife for the 2i!nd Part of Old and N^nt
Ltmdon (CajiicU, Petttr it Galpin). Tlie illiistrationji
nlnne are worth all tbe money. Tbi« niim1:>er keepa us
in and about Newiu'^ate. We supplement Mr. Thorn-
bury s ajccount of the once famous Dr* Sacheverell by
itatiiig that we recently met with an account (f the
arret t of a boyish malefactor of tbe old Jacobite period^
vrho bore ^e b«ptiflroal namet of ** Doctor So/chevertU
TramiatioM from ike RahxyU AhduU4it (Bin- Ahdui-
kufitir), Munthi. With Comroenti by J. T. Thcwason,
F^K.G S., Author of Some OlimpuM itdo Lift in (Ae
Far EatU ^c. (H. S. King & Co )
AiiTiULLA, it Appears, wot a Mabomedan and a British
^uVtject, Ijoni in Malacca in Yi\i*l. '* He hod the vignurr'*
to quotf Mr. Thomson's own words, "and priJe of the
Arab, llie perseverance and subtil ty of the Hindoo ; in
languMge and nation&l qrmpathy only was ba a Malay.
But the translotions will better illustrate tbe man,
modified undoubtedly a# h'la cbnractcr waa by contact
with superior Eunjpenn and Aiuericnn intellecta, eueh
as Kafiles, Mibif; and North.'* Abdulla baring been
persuaded by a friend to compile hjs autobiography, we
here hare toe result, thanks to Mr. Thomson, who so
far back as 184^3 undertook tbe onerous ta^k of presenting
it in a readable shape to the British public, but was
compelled, from rnrioua c&uBes, to delay the commence-
ment. For tbiij delay wo are tjuite compeniiated by the
much fuller notes that the translator has been able to
give at the end of each chapter. Tbe character gi?en
of Colonel Ffkrquhar, as being **sJow at faultfindings
haTing an i^qual bearing to poor as well as to rich,
' holding neither tbe one lower nor the other highert" —
the observation that Sir T. Stamford RafUc8/ao well
known for bis anxioas desire to advance the welfare of
the native population, was courteous alike to European t
and natives^ only prove, if proof were needed, " how un-
feigned and unfalliti}: esteem may be genemted in the
native mind by jui<t conduct and refined manners."
There is a capital account of an elephant hunt ; and
altogether Mr. Thomson has contrived to give us a most
amu.«>ing and interesting book; consequently we look
forward to the appearance of " tbe remaining untrana^
lated portions/'
'* FrR MARTm'* (pp. 248, 260}* W. G. ronmrks. "should
he * free martin/ a female twin calf, which is barren. See
Bewick's Natural Oitlory of Qifadrvptd^, which notices
this fact. The meaning of tbe rqiitbet is obviously
tincomplimcutary to tbe ladjr singer, "—R, G. (Aberdeen)
writes ^ " I have heard the word used as ooe of vulgar
abuse/*
William Jekdak,— Our old correspondent, tbe Risv.
JoHK PrcKFORD, M.A., Tcctor of >'o*vbourne, Suffolk,
infonoft us that a tombstone has reCL-ntlv been erected
in the churchyard of Rusheyf in Hertfonwhlre, over the
grave of William Jerdsn^ at whoie funeral he, as an old
friend, ofBciAted some years ago. There is upon the one
ff/dn ihff fo}iowiBg iJiBcnpiion, in Roman capitals: "Wil-
liam Jerdan, F.aA,, bom at Kelso, April 1^. 17*?, dtfd <
at Eushevt Julv 17, ISfiO. Founder of
GatttU, and its' Editor fur U Year*,"
'•Erected as a Tribute to bis Metimrv
and Associates in the Society of -li."
William Jer^lan was tip to the last u iiof I
to our coluni 1 1 ' ' ' ' * h — 4
the place y\ . , 'mt, I
He was the : xtut\
tbe tatter bad gLotjMr. PerctiiVHt, tbe> l^riuie 3iuu*ier, uij
the lobby of tbe Honse of Commons, 181 i.
*' BAEnY Cornwall," Ie«« widely ■ " T
Waller Procter, is the most proTi
week's obitu»«ry. This poet of a i u. . . _
school vras born eighty- five years ago, at the
out of the great French Revolution, which \a.
gress.
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for ih%% pturpo** ;—
ArtLiMuV HcsootUIb of Clt jtou familf. ISar.
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Af ucnorr^i Acoouot of Li<n«n CUurcb. JQIP,
BmADFOKD't (John) £x&mlu»LJob httttt V^ Lord CliUMMtlor.
Collie Mil (Joel) Mtuie^t TrmTrlr IBIB.
01.4 til fc'i S«rv«y of Kuf 1 kli Lain es. 178?,
Wanted \fj luteal. -CM. FitimiUk^ Oftcr Hal. RocMata
^atirrtf to Carrr^ponQnttf,
J. B. refers to a report tlmt tbe mi«tT<s«ii, and sob-
sequently wife. t>f Tnileyrand, the I' ' ' decile prt*
vbusly known as Mrs, Grant* or < i l*e widow
of Lieut. Symes, who died 1786, ft 1 la Mao-
Chester. Prcviotie to this lant dutf, the lady was, hi
India, the wife of M. Grant Francis admired her then
in 1778. She came to Europe, made thr ♦ja«
of Talleyrand, lived with him, was divoi r,iot
in 17l'S, and married to Talleyrand at tl the
10th Arrondieaement in Paris in 18i)2. ^ w is
Raid to have been an EngUehwoman < ifa«d
Counties. Mndiime Grant wa^ born at Ti..l.^,^«. . ..v^ and
was of FlecDLsh descent. We do not see how she can be
identified with the vridow of Lieut. Symea,
El>. 3lARgnALL. — "John Wcfley's Abridgment dt
Thomas k Kempis'' (d"- a »i. 2m>K Mit. F/8cTtniig
WiiiTK writer:— *■ My copy <jf '^ ' ^
to tend to Mr. Maiuhi a Ll^
communication with me, but ^
rather too long to copy."
J. P. asks for the title of some work Ukely to prove
practical worth and interest to an intending
sc>j(>uruer at Tangier who has never been tn Ji^
before.
EniuTnii.-'Piige 265« ooL 3, ninth liBeftom
for " usual " read iw^tt/*
KOTICK,
Editorial Communications should be addrased to " Tba
Editor "—Advertisements and Ba»ioeiia Letttrs to *^lli*J
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NOTES AND QUERIES,
*0ox «4 tu^^s r. oeftiBt» tr. M9H.
CONTB5IT8.-5» «2.
iM "^ttlWIMOll* Wk
fLwmyvuntt Poem— SoAdfty Sb^vtag— TlUi lidt
iIm -^ ** pTov1d»ikc« on the Side of th« Oriftl
'— & CtaaOikl— Oowiilmrtiaiii on ih« M«rrlM«
iain>whrtiii<, ITTft: McmnMsr, 307— Artkw
|li«s— "Bonragkrteimh *" -^ l>nrii«M of Ma^
olftw «fid EAdtior BikroQlw^ 90a-^KJf«c& of SUn
vt**— JUtar Kills Covered-AltDf punm, 30».
HaU, Wreh. Aod aalt W<w1b. 9M»-«itrre7 Pro-
P«litMto ol NobWlgr to IforalcMn, 912 -Privy
ipiMDt: li4dda ". WatUttoo. SU^ifox-hiiat^
inaiB Chtirdi Bells-^PtoaBBK^Aitoo— ** Am Soaad
■••^R J. BeUuft— Bunyui's Gold Riii|—
I Widow/* 31i— QQotationi Wimted— Tenartoa't
Fkir Wnaea' — WollBiion'i *'R«tiRk»9 erf Naim«
'— y. K. R T.« Sl«— JVuotoon'i SMllolilal W»|«r-
ilv Tteww — Sir mdkBi4. FhJlliiM tud Hm
Mtatftgfn«''—«cot» Qgt^*^** Hie ltb«r mI,*' Ac—
riMlaB Haiaes — AxcbbAi^iaii Uaivvtioo — A
n* Miue^ S10— Dominkftla, SJ7— Roj*l Heads
Imic of tbe *' Cwmacndb "— Tbo TemplArv aihI
1^** iMndvr of tbir Fftilb "-^akxUiif Lltenture
HlrtBiT af tte C6iirt of AnJAod,** sm
^ ffftftf.
KjSWUfUU HOREOX.
HjAtift fpiiifiditiona of m&u of scieoos
^p foiiils of tJii» globe, waidua^ for
^mfy b«oomiog to bring forwMd the
I latirmliire farmet'g son, who was born
I of J«]a«0 2^ And who^ io the reign of
Mim Cweldii^wilaeaMd, ind detcribed
fDMtMll^ to heboid whiob, in the reign
^ience has gone forth with a pomp
fty which contrast smgularly with the
1 tmd the simpk means in the little
his poor lodging- houi« ftt Hoole, near
im^ool atotaon, near wheie the bfook »ri
0 mto the MenseT, w the site of the
^ich Jeremiah Horrox waa born, in
, Fteton, in hh MtviCrUds of Limrpooly
Ji veMon, this date to the coinmonij'
Dfi of 161 9l The cottage ir^ Bwept
It oooiUwston of the Runcorn niilir&f,
it m\s*}it liA-vi; been at thi^ jimotiifte the
vbich i^vtronomens and ujathettilidAiis
B raortod -*' ♦^ . ... .»ui ^iff^^r.^^^
Q faauer''
m liovw Lut.^- ,..-:....... .\.i«^., .,,uid
oaurtgr oducation to his ison. Hut
Jcremiuh hAYing Icumt wh&t conld be taught at a
YiUieo school^ i4K)k tlie stjurnr world for hi3 lxHftk»
asd amdioii the heavens. He was bom ti inafeh»-
nuitieh' : : i u are bi^^m poote. Urn mtm^
tered I in early youth had Mod hJa
mind uim n.c i. rumcr truths and IdeoA he foaad
in iW Lutln i:r»uti^*« <j1' Loneabeiig, Tyeho Bcuhi^
aad K«[]ivr At the axe of iftoen^ that is, in 1632,
Horrox wan to bo ^tn* a humble, self-den yiag,
deep-9e<trching aizar ut Euimanuel Cotlege^ Uiuu-
bridge. He was soon In cQEroepondeooe with tha
kadiag aetioooisiexit roathiMnaticiiiDg, and geoii>»-
Irteiana of the day, and aotahlj with Ahnham
Ch^afatree. On leaving Cambridge, Hortox entered
into Holy Orders, and was appointed to the cumcy
of HooW, about eight miles from PrestoiL It U
said that the fact of Horrox beJag ordained and
appoiDteii to this curacy was only discovered by
the bite Prof. Rigaud. la the seomtioa of Hooliv
Horrox studied the aatronomtcal tablei 0f tht
great teaohe» in aetroaoii^, a«d he found liboti
not to his mind* AaoOflWiiljr, he ihaped rude
inalnunente^simple, aknoat t^lihe^far MmBelfy
and he made his own obeervations, and found
(what a And for the unknown farmer's boy !) a
niiscalcuhitlon in that acute calculator, Ke^ii&r,
As the orbits of Metoury and Vemia ai« bolween
the Earth'g orbit and the Bun, theae planele eoea-
■ionally, but very rarely — thrice in a oonnle of
hundied years, perhnpa— pais between the Karth
and the Sun, and thue seem (o travel acron the
8nn^ disc. Kepler had foielold the transit of
¥ew for sometime in 1691 ; Horrox, alter long
study, fixed the event for Kowinber 24, 163& He
communicated with Crabtree, and tequealed hot
co-o|>eration. For what took pUoe in the pawon's
fittle parloui- at Hoole, we tum to a page in Mr.
Eapinanse a Lancatkire Worthtu : —
" As the time drew nigh, Horroeks was all anxiety and
expeetatioti, aa4» to make aMafanee doubly mre, he
befMi te mOeh on the finaooon of tho 23rd. His simple
apfaiataa wu a tekteope a^juatod to an apertire nwda
Lq a darkcoed room, so that the imaipe of the saa should
fall perpendicularly on, and eiaotly til, a circle of about
UJL Litcuei m^cribed on u piecs of paper, and divided into
the ufual 390 degreei. In hit fntereftfn^ little Latin
tract, the Vmm ta ioU vi#<t» lywrflowiog with a beautiful
eaikusiaam, a poetry and (genaifie devotocl»SMS, which
give it a iingakr cbiariQ, Ilorroclu has doscribsd what
Mras Keni or at Iea»t ob««rred, by oo eyes but hie own
and Crabtrec'a From noon on the 23rd, so long as the
van vra» above the faorison, he watched for four and
twenty hours with oafy «at, and that one a dgiiiieaBil»
iirtanaiision. In leS^, the 2Alh of £tc»vemher fall an a
jjuadav. and he duerlhes hlmiclf as watching on that
day. ' from sunrise t« nine o'clock, aail alio from a little
bciure ten until Tioon, and at one in tli« afternoon, being
called away In Ibe intervals to matters of greater ho-
whioh finraudh eaeondary oeeapatioao it voaM
Ce oettainly bcea bnpre^ to aagiecl joMm iaaeerrffcai
fiecii.it),'' In pojai of fact the IUy> Jarsmiah Horrocki
had to pcrfb'rm morning and aflemoon service to his
limple and scanty flock m the nwisi4 cburcb or chav^l
fOTES AND QUERIES,
[S'^S, ILOer.lT,7i.
at Hoole : and^ for once in bia Ufe, it m*j be siupectedf
he vas a little— a rery little— ^la(i when both were DTer,
and he could rush bAck to hia darkened room, with ita
teletcope and disc of paper, * At fifteen minutes pait
ibree iu the aftemooti;, wo en I first had leiwre again to
renew my obserration^, the cloudi were entirely diA-
peraed, and invited my willing self to make use of the
opportunity afforded^ it might aeem by the interposition
of liearen. When lo I I behdd a most delightful spectacle,
the object of bo many wiahes : a new spot of unuiual
magnitude, and of a perfectly circular shape, so com-
pletoly entering the left limb of the sun that the limbs
of the sun and the spot precisely coincided, forming an
angle of contact. Not doubtiDf? that tbis was really the
shadow of Venus, I immediately set to work to obserre
it fleduloualy.' The happy Horrocks was reward^, and
for half an hour, until the aun began to aet, he made hia
unique and fruitful obeerrationa,"
Soon aft^r, in 1640^ this now honoured Hon of
Science died. He hiid done enough ; he had cor-
rected Kepler, and his Lheory of limar motion was
afterwards adopted by Sir Isaac Newton, Strangely
enough, the poor Hoole curators ohaervations re-
specting the transit of Yenua were not publiBhcd
till long after his death* and then at Divntzic^ —
" Vmiit in ioU in^a, anno 1639^ d> 24 Novemk
St. F. Liverpohffij a Jeremia Horroxio ; nunc
priroum edita, notisque illustrata. Dantzig. FoL
The church at Hoole contains a hraaa and eaet
window in honour and to the lastiDg memory of
tbia pioneer through astronomical problems. The
window represents him receiving the SuE*a disc on
a sheet, with the motto, " Venua in sole visa,'* and
hiR own exchimatioo, " Ecce gratissinTum specta-
cnlum ct tot votonim materiem!" An epitaph
on this true Lancashire worthy has been already
printed in '' N. & Q./' p. 205.
Five years after the puhlication at Dantzic of
the observations mude hy Horrox, Casaini dis-
covered the diurnal rotation of Venus. In the
following century, Moakelyne, an old West-
minater and Cambridge man, and, like Horrox, in
orders, observed the transit of Venus, from a
station in the island of St. Helena^ In June, 1761,
Mo«keIyne was then Astronomer Royal. In 1769,
Cooke landed in Otaheite, from the ** Endeavour,"
at the head of an expedition, the cost of which
waa defrayed by deorge III. The transit mn
great risk of going unobserved, for, the day before>|
the natives stole the quadrant, and, while the
planet was passing, the s^iilors stole a hundred-
weight of nails ^ and caused a dangerous riot.
After the lapse of more than another century, the
transit is to be observed with a sort of pomp and
state of Science ; as, no doubt, will that of 1882.
But the pomp, the state, and the results cannot
draw us away from a sympathizing memory with
the yoimg lonely Lanaishire clergyman, and the
revelation for which he watched so anxiously, yet
confidently, on the November Sunday, 1639, in that
humble chamber in the village of Hoole, Ed,
JOHN CLAEB, THE NORTH AM PTONSH IBB
POET,
I here publish a copy of a letter wntteii hj this
poet to ilr. Joseph Weston, the editor of the
literary remains of Robert Bloomfield, author of
The Farmcr^s Boy, The autograpih copy now in
my possession consists of three pages foolscap : —
" Helpfitone. Maitsh 7, 1821
** Dear Sir,— In uiiwer to yours of tb« third, I mm. tony
to say that I poseeaa but little of the correepondiaiee of
my departed * brother bard * ; what I do pomem yoa an
welcome to, and as to my letters to him jon may do
witb them just aa you please. I deeply reerei that 01
health proTented our correspondence, for I lo^ed tht
man and admired bis genius, 1 had been lo&g anzioot
to make a journey to spend a day with liim, and on my
Be4Tond Tisit to London I intended to have stopped ftt
Biggleswade on my return home* bat I had got too near
the bottom of my puree for a stoppage on the rtAd, and
it was too great ii didtunoe for me to walk home. Thiir
with other matters, prerented me from feeing liim, aD4,
one of my family being ill, I hastened my rettim boms^
WhiiteTer causes bis friends may hare to regret \ai
death, fame is not one of them, for he died ripe forta-
mortality; had he written nothinii? but jRickard vd
KfUf, th&t fine picture of rursl life is sufficient toe*-
tiibU^h his name as the English Theocritua, and firel of
rural bards in this country. And as Paabion (thtf
feehle subetitute for Fame) tad nothing to do
exaltation, its neglect cannot affect hii mesM
built on a more solid foundatioo* and time will
owti reward to the farmer's boy. I beg you wiO
the kindneaa to take car^ of the fnanuserif>t^ and n
it when you have done with it, as I wish to preserre ^
Bcr&p of his handwriting. The copy on the other mUt
is A note that acoompftnied his present of 3f o^-dty «>iJtl
the MuMti; I gave the original to Allan Ctuifsui|:!iiD,
the poetf who has a high respect for Bloomfield's gmi^
and whose request on that account (to possen a temp
of his writing) I was proud and happy to gratify. Soon
after the poet*B deaths I wrote in a melaueholy feeHf^
three sonnets to his memory. I was not aware thut tiif
Rtinaim would hare had such insertions, or I thoulil
ha^e sent them to his daughter I will fill this sitegt.
with them for your perusal, though I expect thej n
find a place in the volume now in the press that will
published this S^pring. Wtth my best withes tliat JO
friendly labours for the memory of tho d«ptrtad pM^
may meet with the success they deserro,
•* 1 remiun,
" Yoan wry faithfully,
*'Mr, Joseph Weston, ** Johk Cuhi-"
" 12, PfovidcTice Kow,
^' Finabury S(|uare,
" London."
Copy of a Letter from Bloomfdd, aeoompomyittf i
" Mayday fdih M< Mum$^**
" Shefford', Bedfordshire, May 3rd« ISSSL i
*' Neighbour John,— If we were still nearer neighbor^
I would see you. and thank you personally for ili« l
volumes of your poems sent me so long ago. 1
with such labour and difficulty, that I cannot rvi
to praise or discriminate like a cnCic, but must tuolf m
you have given ns great pleasure.
'* I beg your acceptance of my just pu
Toltime, and, sick and ill as I continually IV
you heartily in your exclamation, * What i« urc 1
" With best regards and wii ' ^
'* I am yours aim
"B.ovt, BLooartiUk.1
«P8.n.Oot.l7,7*.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
303
I
Tkrm SQnnttt on MoomJUld*
Sofine feed on HtId^ fame with eo^iBciooB pride^
And in tb«t gay ship. Popularity,
They ttem wit^ pointed oara the ballow tide.
Proud of the noise which flattery's aids supply,
JoitiM with tO'daT'a sian gilded butterfly,
The breed of Paahlou haughtily they ride,
Ai tbo' her breath waa immortality,
Which are bat bladder puffii of common air,
Or water bubbloi that are blown to die,
Lei not their faacies think his masefl fair
While feeding on the public's groaa supply;
Time's wares roll on — mortality must ihare
A mortal's fate— and many a fame ebal] lie
A dead wreck on the shores of dark posterity.*'
IJ.
8weet unaMuming minstrel I not to thee
The dasslioc fashions of the i^ny belong*
S^ature's mild pictures, field and cloud and tree.
And quiet brooka far distant from the throng
In mormur» tender as the toiling bee
31ake the sweet music of thy touder song.
Well, Nature owns thee — let the crowd pa«i by.
The stream of fashion Is a tide too strong
For pastoral brooks that gently flow and sing ;
But Nature if their source ; and earth and sky
Their annual oflerings to her current bring.
Thy injured muse and memory need no sigb,
For they shall murmor on to many a spring.
When their proud streams au-e summer-bumt and dry.'*
*' The tbepherd mttstng o'er hi^ meadowp dreanui
The May-day wild flowers in the iummer graai^
The fanshine tparklinf? in the Talley f treams,
The singing ploughman aud hay making hism, —
Ttiese lire the summer of thy rural themes^
Tby green memonals theio, and they surpass
The cobweb frame of fashion. Every May
^ Sbsdl find a native * G ile.H * beside his plough,
H Joining the iky lark's song at early day ;
^^ And summer nestling in the ripened com,
H ShAll find thy native loves as sweet as now,
^^P Offering to Mary's lips ' the brimming horn/
^r And Seasons round tny humble grave shall be
Fond lingering pilgrimB to remember tbee."
The letter and the three sonnets are not vcr-
haUm, but nearly so. Thinking they may not be
oxnceeptable to re-aders of the works of John Clare,
^le KorthamptoDBhire poet, I publish them in
K. & Q.** Walter Bloompikld,
139, Paddngton Street, Islingtoii*
PARALLEL PASSAGES.
' Tbat looms the world, and, as a traveller,
Ooes to diKover countries^et unknown.'*
Marlowe — Edvard IL^ near end*
* T\w ttodiacorer'd country from whose booni
Ko tnteiler returns."
Hamlttf iii. 1. 79-
II.
** fler feet beneath her pettieoat,
lAe little mice, stole in and out
Aj if they fear'd the light/*
Suckling— £a^/aakp<m a Widding.
« Her pretty feet
Like »o&iles did creep
A little out, and then,
As If they played at lH>*peep|
Did soon draw in agen.''
Herrick — Upon M, Susanna S<mlK^tU ;
herFut
111.
** Alas, I had rather be set quick i' the earth,
And bowl'd to death with turoins I "
Merry Wiva of II md#or, iii. 4, 85.
** Would I had been set in the ^onnd, all but the head
on me, and had my brains bowled at."
B. Jonson— ^artAofoww Fair, iii. 1.
IV.
" Which he disdaining, whisked his sword about.
And with the wind thereof the king fell dawn/'
Marlowe— i>tc^o, iL
" But with the whifl'and wind of his feU sword
The unnerved father falls."
EaviUi, ii. 2, 451*
" When many times the e&ufcive Grecian falls^
Even in the fan and wind of your fair sword.
You bid them rise and live."
TroUiu and Grettida^ v. 3, 40*
** Mad and outrageous with the pain.
He whirl'd his mace of steel :
The very wind of sue b a blow
Had made the champion reel.''
Percy's HdiiTuaj " Valentine and
Ursine/' L 6a.
** Oanit thou not minister to a mind diseased ? **
Machflk, V. 3, 40*
" Nature, too unkind.
That made no medicine for a troubled mind.'*
B. & V.—rhUtuter, iii. 1.
" 4 . . . Ah, but none of them will purge the heart 1
No, there 's no medicine left for my diseaK."
Spanuk Trttgtdy, iv. ; Dod«ley, iii. 154.
*' I think she has a perturbed mlnd^ which I cannot
minister to/*
Two N6U€ Kintmen, W. 3.
*'-... phvtic yet hath never fotind
A remedy to oure a lorer's wound/'
Ford— iJroIen HeaH, I 3.
** It physics not the sickness of a mind
Broken with gritsfs."
ford— Broken Heart, il 2.
*' though art
Clan find no comfort for a Broken Heart.**
Ford— ^rot«n Ifeurt, t. 5.
" No physic strong to core a tortured mind."
Ford — Lore't Sacrifice, ii. 3.
'* But where that herb or science can ye iSnd
That hath the virtue to restore the mind T'
Thracian Wonder, iv. 2 ; Hazlitt's Wdnier*
" 0 ye Gods, haue ye ordeyned for euery malady a
medicine, for euerv sore a salue^ for enery palne a
playster, leaning only loue remedilesse t ''
Lyly's £upku«$, Arber^i cd, p. 61.
*' I 've that within for which there are no plasters."
Oarrick's Prologue to She Stoop* to Conquier,
** So can ho heill Infyrmytee of thoght,
Wich thj^t one erdly medesyne can noght ;
On to his core no medesyne is found.**
304
NOTES AND QUERIES
" For where no hop^ w left, m left no fear,"
Milton — Parad^it Re§uimdj iii,
" Whftt thcaldfit tboa fmm, tlmlfMtlMot what to hope 1 '
Miifin 8mm$ ^ A rUmr, \. 4.
* Be tbftrt H wifboat Uat fi wfChout hope. "
Webrtcr— i>rtTtri Z<np-Ca*r, ii. 3.
** Let in« ifi tWi life feur no kiuii of ill
Tbftt have ni> food to hope for/'
Webster— i>«?ifV Luw-Castf iii. 3.
** In me hiUU Grief isl&in Fear/'
Two NohU Kin*¥mn, lii. 2.
" Th«i» to fei/r wbMi ho^ U frattleM,
Were to be decpcmtetj miserable."
Ford— /»<riltii Jr«r4«^ iii 2L
JOHK ABD18.
INTERNATIONAL TITLES OP XOBILITY.
A very ciirioas practice has b<?en in vogue for
many years, ami it seefos to tue to be of sufficient
importance to be made the subject of a note. I
refer to titles granted to British subjects by foreign
princes, and which are derived from some British
locality. Setting aside ecctolaatkil lilies^ which it
m wisdom, or, at any rate, diacretian, to let alone,
we find, for example, the title of *' Count de Lan-
castre/' "Lancaster" h one of those sincient
titles absorbed by the Crown of Enghmd, imd,
therefore, it aeeni^ a sort of presumption on the
part of a foreign power to bestow it, Bowever dis-
guised, on a Briti&h subject. To do so i^^ to make
international some of ihe anofnalies of the Irinh
Peemge, mich as that of " Earl of Fife in Ireland,"
a mielendiiig designation. But I merely seek in-
formation, and as I have accidentally fallen upon
the title w "Lancaatre," I should be glatl to know
on what plea and by whom it was coofeired.
There are sevend other titles of the same deaciyp-
tion, but one example will tn&e. With ull
respect to individuals, I do not myseK approve of
the practice in question, for it tends to confusion.
On the same principle, a man witbont any right to
the coat armorial of an Earl of Chest-er might go
to Brazil, and induce the authorities there, in their
ignorance, to grant him " azure, three garbs or,"
whereupon he mi^bt return to Ecj^Iand, and, if
questioned about his lineage, he might truthfully
say, ** See, I hear, by authrtrity^ the anuM of my
ancestor.** Nine persons out of ten who knew
nothing of the mibject woidd be deceived, and yet
no charge of falaity could be brought againtit the
eqttivocator, for the responsibility would He on
the foreign Government.
If it were an established international usage,
that what a man oould not obtain in his own
oonwtiy he might get in another, and then bring
home with htm, I shoald not have considered these
remark* ntceaaity ; but the fact is <mr Govern-
ment does not create forei^ territorial titles in
theptsttota of foreignen, and, therefore, I cannot
understimd wL> ior^iou Govcrfimcnta dioidd I
such liberties wiLh us.
This subject induces me to exlend uy remafia
to the cosniopolitfin n<^Uity <if noT kuumiaii, ih
author of 'Ae ^^obilit^ ^f ik^ Britisk (?«
ThiH writer failed, I think, to i^cogome tkn <
tine ti on between tiniverBal costom asd
usages. Like anothei" (
Banks— Lftwreooe wis 1%^
hh own. He was, Aoreow, apt to take lnr<
premises for granted, and then bnild npcm tliem
excellent arguments. He did not at^, in Bone
instances, to prove these premiaes, and aeexiied td
lidopt the fallacious idea that, because fio foRien
nobleman has any legal right to a highei ' '
than that of esauire in Enalaiid, an Ek.
esquire must, on tlie other hand, be equal in mau
to a foreign nobJeman in his own eotinfrr. ? ri:
inclined to believe that Lawreiice -
political with the genealogical. .^
ever, is not to dispute his general <x>rr<jLtncs:i. lie
was a well-read man^ of *^ warm emutioiiB ** oo
things of the past, and ^enercir ^ ■ ^ v ^'^
while I admit the merit of
Brrtuh Gmtry, I cannot bui .11.^,,. l,
work liable to foster imaginary self-imp
Prof. Stu bus's ** Cokstitutionai* Hnroxror
Englai^d^^ and TBS BiflHOPiiic OF £acsm«—
The Saturday Re^iiew of S9tk August bfll fnifti
out a date in which it alleges the Profesnr ha*
gone wrong. The reviewer says :—
" lo pftge 282 1m tpeaki of titriaiii lri«hi|wla% faifer
among them, »■ bei^g ia the liaiidi of formjpttn la ftf
jrear 1070 ; we need not go fuiilier than hk own Mmittnm
Sacntm An^licamum to ahvw tbai Leofric k«filiiitf*a
biBhopric till lOTl**
If the charter now to be quot^ is iMtlifmti/,
and there is no error in its dates Leofric wm^
have kept his bishopric till I0S5. There is a gWDt
recorded in the Mts. riiurnLirv nf Moi ^
Michel, by Robert of Mtn
Mount in Cornwall to 1
varimis lands specified. The grant is
William the Conrmeror, Queen Mathildis, 1
three sons, in token of their approbation of til
grant, and the freedom of the monks from all pi
of the Crown except hoinicide, and witnessed 1
many distin^iished persons. Alter these 18 1
"Pirmnt ' cart* fcnno iM^Iji
(1085) fib indictioiie xi!f
currente ill, .uii,. .*._,, xaj.,..* j., ucvescl. *^ ^
cettrie epi. 4* ^go quidem itnricus tit
cpificopiiB, juftione ci exbcTt.itfone drmi >
tiMimi Cfregorii 1 r .u
que optimatutD i 1 1 > 1 1
be»iiti ArchaniZtl .- ../aLuii 1
officio ©t niiniatr creiiitur atque c
conaecmri ac BaM< ■■^. (.eiiiu C'&oi sb on^
Ttre. potestaie. seu futjconone, Itberai^m At^v
quod «t £Miere tocaoi ckri aoftre conseD&u et
B" 8. U. Oct. 17, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
905
domir
^^ ei^rin
■ Cckiulc
m
diitulu Libero quant mm «l ftxuo nb omni «t^'upft]t
diominfttioiie tHbJMlioiie lo4{iuitfeiidjiiie^ et iwutibM* Hha qui
11] Am ecctefiam tuk com b«ii€fie&i» mi oieeniMiuii expe-
ei^rint ct TiBit&Terint t«rtihm pftrtem Ti«tut«ntiarum
Ccuulonamiu. Et at hoc inconrulaiUD <t munobile H
ioviiilabileaia^teouji (jirl perniitaieftt exaucftoritate
ia et fllil et epiritus ^ancti othdiIula itottri« miccessor-
interdicimufl tie ^liquid coiiLni hoc d^cietom uaur-
ptfi pre«aiiuuii."
As the Queen died in 1083, thie confinuation
ajid \ts dfde must exclusively refer to the act of
the Bishop of Exeter He speaks no doubt of the
Queen iia giving her *' order and exhortatioD," and
not as if she hi>d died ; but this doea not invalidate
the app^irent fact thiit Lioric, or Leofric, Bishop of
ExetiT, i« asserted by the monks to have confiirmed
T in the fortieth year of his episcopatej he
n consecrated in H>46. The correctness
:i?e of the date is worthy of being tested
by Prot Stuhbs or his critic. I have given it
i^xactly as in the MS, Anolo-Scotits.
Ps&cr Foi^io M8. Bai.laj38 and Rouanctrs. —
-la vol, iii, p. 2C)2, Jaatt line of ** The
ui the King" Measna. Spottlswoode's
i liftve iDftde an odd " pie *' of the words in the
»e. These were —
* Will reede itt Bsjfast as youU ffmng by the way/*
In the Tfolume they appe^ir tts—
* Will retde itt ae^a/« ^mMt m y^^ftg by th« way."
L 651, p. 1«X), 18 (eighteen) h wanted by the
' meiiv for 6—
' I gftue the« S p«iioe a day," .
^^ mod as there may be a 1 in the MS. at the foot of
^■ihe long f tthove, I think wc mav safely read " 18."
HP* 111. h 418, for "& " read *^a,"
H Vol ii.* p. 159, I 7, for " 1569-^ read " 165ft";
^|i. 307, L M, for "come" read "came': p. 214,
L 1 18, for ** liuME" read " Dukne'' (the m. is for nn,
see nt*t( 2, p. 215, &c,) ; p. 22<>, 1. ri5, for *^ many''
IW4l v'*; p. 222, 1. h for "Layde'^ re^id
'*Li -. 224, 1. 2, for **fore" rend **8ore";
^^s, L i:j, for "?iweeuens" rt?ad ** sweauens^'j
273, 1. 57, for " said " reaii " aayd '^ p. 275, L 2,
" at " refui " att "; n. 293, I 72, " verry " njay
*Iiott" (which makes better sense) ;* p. 295,
127, for *^said" read "then said*'; 1. 130,
'loUye" mnv be **Follye": h 143, ''thai" may
"; p. 504, I. 67, for "hee'' t^mmI "he,"
L' all the mistakes 1 found in recollating
, i^*ti«ds in vola. ii. wnd iii. for the forthcoming
iiOD of my friend, Prof. F. J. Child, of
F. J. FriiNiVALi,.
JBetTAJrit*^ — Tlie following' t^pit-nph iit transcribed
inral UV^I Parii^b Church of
Ulo t', aiid i« sont to
yti** with the b »pt that it nmy pi'Ove
injBf to the many readers of tbit valuable
f fkU tha Cr^aturos w^* (jod loade undor ilie 6ati
^ii soaa lo nuAerabk a* Man. ¥ot all l>umb
Creatures have ao mUfortuni- i horn Imt wliat
comc4 bj Nature, 'but Man, tbi vu knoirkdge,
brin£« himself into a Thousand j,-.. .. . . lii of Soul and
Body.
** Af for Example.
Our Father bad two children, and aj^iaet his knowMge
he committed the Mn of IdtilHtry upon u«. For hiul Our
Father done hi» du'" ^ > .-i- - i i ,,* Tn i -t m a
Thousand, a^ he diu iod
to »pare our live*, ^t J>ut
God iit a jealous Ood^^uid puni^lieth the fault^j of Farcott
upon their Children.
'* Tho' the tins of our Father hare deprived Uft of the
light of the SuD, ibanki b^^ to God, we a^joy moi« gmftt,
more tweet, more Blegeed Light, which is j* prfigence of
Ood. y* Maker of all Ligbts, to Yvhom b« all Honour UKi
Glorr.
♦* Beneath tbi« place lye tlie Bodiee of John aud
Elizabeth Maroutie^ in tbti Memory of whom their Father
caused this Monument to be put up. Elisabeth Died in
1708. nged G ; John Died in 1711, n^ed 5.
** Their Father, a poor rajui horn in the ProTiuce of
I>ophtn (sic) in the Eiagdum of France, he beUe7ei thai
hie sun were the Cause that Qod took t^e ^feB of hie
ChddiHjn/'
SnoLTo Vere Hark.
Almondfbury, GloucesterBhire.
Hybrid NoiiEycLATURE.— The luibit of en-
in%ftin^ Latin, or other languages, on Greek forms
has bec->me oftensively common. It is no wonder
if geologisti* contend with each other when they
have taken to military studies, which we xnuat
infer from their new term, *' ^^rahgraphitiid.^ If
they must coin a word, why not make it titaU'
graphical \ Then such compounds ok oleogn)|ih,
pistolgtiiphi &c,« are beneath contenmL
S, T. P.
jFyiFER, PRIU\I»FXPHrA, AND PbIWP — XaMXS
OF WoMEN.^Whilst gtrolling through the church-
yard of Liakeard, Cornwall, a few days sincci, I
wa» reminded thnt a query and replieB appeared
in ^^ N. & Q,^ some years since on ** Jenifer, u
Woman'u Name *' (4"* S. ii. 36, ^6), for in front of
me stood ^ headstone " In affectionate remem-
brance of Jenifer, the beloved wife of Thoimuj
Roberta .... who departed thb life on the 22«ni
of December, 1872, ftged 61 years,"
In the same churchyard I noted a headetone
^^ To the memory of Philadelphia Lyne, d&nghter
of John and Jane Lyne .... who drf -* ■' 'hi?
life on the 1 1 th day of April, I860, ttge<
Carew^ in hi* M^urrcy of Cort%wtiU M-xi.i,*v'U,
L*)ndop, 17G9, second book, p. 1U2), twioe 8peak»
of one of hifi ancestresses, who bore the name of
Philip. Wm. PenoRLLT.
Torquay.
Cipher. — How old is the practic* of writing in
cipher? Moren, in bin 7* - -- /> twcf
"BatJHta Porta,' j»ays that 1 <ikiii on
tht» occult signs of letters, " ii . ;e« dm
lettrcs,' and the manner of wi a vo^x >^nto
306
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t5»*S. I LOOT. 17,71
held the key, and aho n method of interpreting
cipher. These were published jit Strasburg, l^HL
He sftva fchiit Porta grefitly aiirpasse<i nil that had
been ^one by TrithejnuSf Abbt' of Spanheini, a*Dv
14U2-1516* Hifl treatise oa stegauography appears
to have been very curious. He designated some
of hisaigna as ^r%tu$ diumtaxid stpintus noctnmi,
and Boville, to whom he showed it, accused him,
on returning to Fmnce^ of dealing in the hliidi art
and of conversing with demons. Pmbfibly the
good Abb^ was only one of many employed upon
the like mgennity, which is acting out the witticism
of Talleyrund, in xiaing kngiiage to conceal our
thoughts* Practically, I suppose we may consider
hieroglyphics aa the earliest description of gipher-
writing, 0. A. Ward,
Mayfair,
Ladics asd Lionesses.— In the Midland
Counties, the once popular belief still prevsiils,
that eveiy third Year is nousually fatal to women
in childbirth, and ihat these triennial perknls are
(coincident with, and, in some mysterious way, con-
sequent upon, the accondmmnl of a great lioness
Tvhich ia kept in the Tower of London, and which
. gives birth to a whelp regularly every three ytiars !
The year 1874 is supposed to be one of the *'lion*s
years." P. E, B.
Burton-on-TteDt.
Fictitious Maariagks, — I came across a some-
what extraordinary announcement in the Gmih-
man*^ Maga:nne/ for December, 1838, p. 656,
bottom of col. 1, of a marriage :^*' George Caswal
Newman, Esq., to Wilhelminti, 3'ounge«t daughter
of Sir Henry Montague, Bart.," which is contra-
dieted in the following volume for 1839, Jnnuaryj
p* 2, col. 2, where they say there is ** no such person
as the party to wliom he is etnted to be married."
Have many su^h announcements of marriages that
have never taken place been made ?
Olphar Hamst.
**La Napoleon iknnb.^' — As a memory of the
past, the following is worth preserving :—
'^Salut, Bulut, orgneil de notre histoire.
Ou va ton vol 1 Au Rhia , h I'Ocean 1
Kamdne aux preui let fronds jours de la gtoire.
Qu'ftdmire ainsi ton regard fr^miasant {
De« 6traJigero la trsice ineffacuc I
La tntbuon n'enchalDc plug not bmft.
C6*ar n*cft plua^ Ayguate a sa pens€c i
Pfttrie, 5 Franco, encore tu {n^adira^.
Reprendfl le sceptre, et reminrf? du Monde.
La palx, ia paix atns hontc dcsoniiaU !
J'entendj! la voix de ta foudre qui |<;rotide :
Guerre Aans tr4"fe k qui ne veut la paix.
Le peuDle et Dieu tVot aacr6 legitime ;
Qtii done pourrait m6confiattre t€B droits?
Nobl« vengeancfl^ licro'i^ine sublime :
L'Aiglc a wi'jTe Ig« peupJe8 et lea Row,
A rhonion, riwe H brOhinte aurore,
QmI beiitt solcU sononce tea gpleudeun \
^ Bu.
J Bit.
Fill du tniTail, oh, o'ett pour voui encore.
Que r% a'ouvtir un iiecle de unuideura.
Sam toip que lont lea gloirea de la Tie,
Religion ? k Tombre du Dn^peau,
Triomphe auwi. Mere de la Patrie :
Au front d'lm fils tu ceiadraa le ba&devtt.
8ur Dog cit6g, nir no« plaineit ai belles.
Oil fier, heureux, r^gae le peuple-nyi»
Puiaeant O^nie, etenda tea ra«tea aites :
N&poleoD, tu commanded la foi ;
Nom cber au del, aymbolc de puisaaTice !
Vaillant aoldat, gln^reux labourcur,
VoB soureQira ont fait notre cap^mnc^ :
VouB rcverrez lea tempe de PEmpereur/*
HuouENOTS.— The origin of this name see m^ to
be buried in obscurity, for we find various e\^
tiona given of it« rise. Whether it wna gi-
the French Protestant* as a tenn of reproa
their enemiesj or adopted by themselvess, Wl
yet to learn*
It has been said to have been given to Ui« Fr«odb
Protestants aa an injurious appellation, u^- I
sijfnify the eaemies of the Church, and to
arisen from a Provost of Paris, Hugo Aubrui*
(Aubriot), who lived in the reign of Charles V,,
and who, having made himself obnoxioua t' ♦^^
members of the University, was cited befj
eccleaiai!tical tribunal as a heretic. He wil
demned to dentli, but the sentence was imti;. -J
by the Court, nnd in the following year Jm
releiised bj the populace, and died in 1382 ;
tion from the Gmtktjuin's Ma^axiiUj third ei
1814, vol i, p. 55).
*' Being grown numerous in the city of Tours, an -^ "V
permitted to eiyoy the liberty of asaeniblmg; witLi
walk, the J held their meetings at a Tillage not fa
for tlieir public devotions; the way to which Itadiiig
through the gate of 8t. Mugo ia thought to hare ooa»'
sianed the name of Hugonots, wbich oth«r« think Lj
baTe been given tbera by re&aon of their frei (
meeiinga, reaemblcd by tbe French to the v
njght-apiritj'which they caU Si. Hugh,**— He ^
o/iAi fttformation, Ecc, Hiit Socy., vol. ii. i
" There have been aeveral fanciful deriTfe(.>i>i>n
word Huguenot. It is now mppoeed to bare :.<^-\:
orij^inalij KidgmoittUi or oifociated by oath, the t
assumed by the CalviftiatJc party in Geneva. J
contest with the Oatholica. From Geneva,
penetrated into the Bouth of France, and took ......
Che ap{>ellat)on of Egaote, or Hugueoota*' — l^ngiifUr
Riitory, 1838, vol. viL
** Some etymologiaU auppose thi« term < I
Uuguon, a word uaed in Touraine to signifj [
walk at night in the atrecta. And aa the fir^c l
like the first Christ btia, nv&y hare choseti
for their religioua aaaembliei, through the i
secution, the Dickoatse of Hugaeaot may, i^tur»Uj
enough, hare been apnlied to them by their cnetniia
UthepB are of opinion that it wa* derived from a French
and faulty pronunciation of the Oerman word r%dyfnw$%^
which aignilies ^on/edfrntf.^, and had been originally tbf
name of that valiant i ' Mjc city of Uenava wlAek
entered into an alliati < S wisa Caiitona^ fit ordof
to maintain their Ubert i .^ ...^lA the tyranaicftl I
I • a. II. Oct. 17, 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIE&
307
Ch&rleA IlL, Duke of SaTO}'. TbeM confederates were
eignoii, itnd from thonco, reTj pnib«bly, wm
J ihe UTonl Ilncucnota. Tlic Coant Vilkrs, in a
(Vntten to the king of France from the ProTtnce
[edoCf where he wa« lieutcDAnt-^nenl, and
11th Noverober, 1500, cftUa the riotoua Cftl*
of the CeTenneSp Huguenote^ and this U the first
this tenn is found in the registers of that pro-
appUed to ihe Proteftantf/' — Mot heim't i?ccf. Hat,
MaclaLne'i tnuulation, 1837» Book IV,, part ii. p. 104,
note.
S. W. T.
I that t
<fturtirif.
[Wa miiat request correspondents desmng information
familj matters of only private interest, to affix their
DM and addrenses to their queries, in order that the
users jnoiy be addreoed to them direct.]
Airoimfous Poem.— I have long been anxious
ascertAm who was the nuthor of the following
liM poem. I cut it out of a newspaper in or
>ut the year 186i> :—
"TITE old INQUBQ MAVOA^BOUfK.
It dawns in the manor-garden ;
The air is blue and calm ;
The blaclr yew-hedge if* gray with dew.
The balsam tweet with balm ;
The lilies' silver chalicfl
Brims orer with last night's rain ;
The blackbird #ings his golden tune.
Then tries it o'er again.
The fountain times its music faint ;
The scent of herb and flower,
Tlie bloom of the dew, the stioshine plotoj
The season* nay, rhe hour —
All help to make a Paradise
Of thitt Eden mined now.
Spite of leares in the nest,, and moss on the wbll^
And canker on the bough.
The house is a stately ruin ;
Though the park -gate*} standing still,
Growned with gilt spheres and motto —
' The river grows from th4 riU ' ,•
And over the barren stubbles
Yon hear the partridge call,
And the screaming hare flies from the stoat,
Eound the warren's old mossed wall.
Tba home of the brave dead gentlemen
!■ now but a heap of stone ;
Th« flesh if gone from its stalwart limbs,
And left but the ghastly bone.
Hie wall>flower in the chimney blooms,
The ^man on the window sill,
Tet stiO on the gates runs the motto proud —
* TU rirtr grmn from tJU riliJ **
Anon.
kT Shavixg. — The church wapdens of
parish paid htdf-a-crown for a bond in
\{^ ^ bound theni'*elves " not to ahivye
the morning." This was in the
ilK \V t-Ti: auch b<jnda common ftt this datet
were thej found eH'ectuai in CJirrying out the
t obtervftnce of the Sabbath Day }
Thos. Eatcliffr*
The Late Johw Marplss. —
"Ds^tH OF a CsLEBKiTT.— Died at Baslow, 30th
August, aged BO, Mr- John Marples, millwright Mr.
Marples claimed to haro planned and modelled the
Crystal Palace, in Hyde Parkt London. Previous to
that he planned, modelled, and superintended the con-
stniotion of the lily house and great conservatory at
Ohatsworth. Though these acnicTements laid the
foundation of Sir Joseph Paiton^s greatness, Marples
receired but 30j. per week, and but for the kindnesa of
the Duke of DeTonshire, who allowed him a pension, his
latter days would have been spent in comparative
poverty,"— /^erfcytAtr* Covritr,
It would be interesting to hear if there is any
truth in the claims made byMr. Marples,
William Andrews*
Cftughey Street, Hall
** PaoVIDEXCE ON THK SIDE OF THE GEBAT
battalions/' — I believe this well-known saying is
due to Wnllenstcin, but I should begkd of a more
exjict reference. Meanwhile, in a little book which
I boujtjht in Paris «oriie yej\ra ago, entitled ConU^
d £pi4p'a7}tmM par k CiL * ♦ * * ♦ ("Gobet"
filled in in ink), a Paris, Vende^mmire, An VIII.,
is an epigram in which the same idea occurs : —
"L'AVAKTAOB DU NOHBEI.
Kous n'avons que peu de soldats,
Et nous aureus, disait un pieux nouvelliste,
De nombreux enncmis au printemps sur les bras;
Mala nous serous Tainqucurs^ si le ciel nous assiste,
Et sil repind sur nous sea bdnddictions.
Ne voutt y fiez pas, dtt un vieux militaire,
J 'si toujours vu Dieu, diins ta guerre,
Du cdt6 des gros bat&illons."
Who was the ** pieux nouvelliste," and who was
Citizen Gobet himself? My copjr of the Ixfok has
various MS. corrections, which, it would almost
aeeni, must be by the author. H. A. B.
Edward Cranfield was appointed by Charles
IL Lieut.-Gov. of the province of NewHampahire,
in New England, in the year 1682, He came here,
and remainetl until 1685, when he went to the
Barbftdoes, where he was for some time Collector
of Customs. He is said to have died in England
in 1704. Can any one give me any further infor-
mation of him, or designate his origin ?
aw. TtlTTLE,
Boston, U.aA.
Co NBI DERATIONS ON THE MaRRIAOE OF THE
Duke OF Cumberland, 1772 : Bioarrirtt, — Who
waa the author of this pamphlet, published by
AJjnon in 1772, and of which the full title ia, —
"Considerations on the Indij^ity Suffered by the
Ct\>wn, and the Dishonour brouj^ht upon the NalioD, by
the Marriage of His Royal Highness the Duke of Citm-
berlaod with an Eaglish Subject. By a Kings Friend.
4to,"?
The author advocates such a chaoge in the law
lus was carried out in the same year by the Royal
Marri.Hge Act. In the course of it he speaks of
the chjiracter of the young Prince as b«vD% <%bimil
308
NOTES AND QUERIED
[S^aiLOcf.lT^Tt
aU hurry, flutter, and biyarriehj.*' What is biffar-
rMKr. totd where else does the word ocetirT
C. D. C
AnTHTm FoKBBS, OF BRtTX.— Who wns this
" Pamxi of T: ' ' -n Scotland, who is not One of
ihDfit caller ,' who wrote *'An Epitaph
wptm ih«t i oii.ii.x ►Servant of the Lm^, Robert
Barolky, of Urie," prefixed to the ivorks of the
bUer (1692) I He sjiys* and with ^^ood resiSiOTL —
" I do Confess, my Mind I caniiot K&tra
To gnre the Defuact hia dewrvcd Priuse.*'
Has the pmolfciiiiAio mocentutLtioB of dlfvmd
bcmehsemdelsewtee? Y.H.I.L.LaLV.
" BoRoiroH-ENaLisH." — Id whiit plooes does the
cMtotn of " Botrmgh-Englkh ^' obtain, of has it
oblMmed ? F. S.
Sl^K»KBS Gir Maalboroug^h and Quksn Ahkb.
— BHi Stanhope says that the DiichemtEMifevibed
MUMiry pusfmi^es from the Wh4>h Dutf €f Mmij
and also the Injunction from the Book of Common
Prayer, biddiDi^ ua be in ebiirity witli all men
before receiving the Holy Couimanion, and sent
them to Qitneii Anne* Wm^ Strickland Biiys that
it WIS' 3etf!my Taylor's Holy Livintj and Dyiiiff
thiit! »he sent. Which is the true account, or are
they both true ? Where ia the original anecdote
feund ? ' C. P. E.
Aribto, iui H;ddi2i or Physiciiin at the Court of
Akbm*, AJX I55ti-1605, p. 642, v. i,, Ain Akbari^
I tmofibteii by H. Blochmnno, >LA. Was he one
] of tlie somi of, or otherwise related to, the poet
Ludovico Ariosto, the author of Orlatido Funom^
wh» died in 15aa i E.
A ** WABttiN&Ton Mkdal.*' — Having in vain
I Mragjii for information about n curiouH medal of
Wuliijigto% in the posseselon of a gentleman of
I IJiia dliy, who has owned it for nearly forty years,
i I mtton tora|>{ay to '' N. & Q.''
I enclose a rubbing of the medal^ which will
convey to j(m a better notion o£ what it is than a
mere description. The tradition that accompanies
the medal is, that there are only three or four
copies of it in eristenoe, that it wm made in Eng-
land by an English artist, and that the dies were
broken at the tV>urth imprewsion, E. A. D.
Ontvereitj of MaryJ&nd, Baltimore.
pfe alioU be glad to forward the rubbings referred to
to nqr oorraflpivfident likely to Btipply the infbrmAtioD
Seals in Two Parts.— In a charter granted to
^thfl borongh of Hedon, 22 Edward III., it is
that, for the quiet and tmnquility of the
■6S, as well UB of mexdmnts resorting to the
f th§tf wiere to have a seal to he ordniued by
the king in two puits. The m<tf>r part of dm add
seal was to remain in the cuAtr*- lOft^or Cor
the time being, and the miiufj »« said tMl
in the custody of a clerk, to be ' ll
king, " & q'd 7najor pan sigilli illii
custodia p'd c'i majoris q'm p'tempore i u jl i.v 3
jMTn ejiisdem Rjgilli in eiiatodia eujusdam clid fi«
uos,'' &e. ^
What is the meaning of the m^jor part sn4j
minor part of the seal ? Is it to be undo
that the seal was in two parts, and hod <
Joined together every time before it coruld bal
If io, how was it divided, or doe« it mmtk
there were two seals, the one larger than theothsfi
Are there any similar instances T G. R. Pasjc
Gkoob-APHIcau— \niat part of the world iriD
firat see the dawn of {t. g,) the 25tli Becembei,
1874 ? Many of the best authorities, I^nflh »»i
English, giving n*> hint towards the answw of
that question, I entreat a line from »ome conr^
spondent of geographical proclivities. R. K A
*' E. S., 1807,"— Who ifl the poiotor indicate
by these letters and date ? The sabj««5e is a Lioct
soApe with cowg, and from the execution
evidently English, probably of the Crome tscho
though i cannot find the name. Wm. HuenK?-
Author Wanted.— Who is the author of i
little poem illustrative of that sublime philosophy
(Christianized) which the le^irued Sir Thoraa*
Browne, in his EtU^io Medici, thus boldly avoiKJ
his faith in ? —
*'The ecvere BchooU ihall nerer lau^ me cut^tk
philo*opbj of Hermes, that this risible wm i
picture of the itivisible, wberoifi, a« in »|>r>r
are not truly, but in •qiilvocal tbape*, iti. . — ^-i
counterfeit aom* real subfUfiGS ia that ian»Uile tt^tkJ'
I give the first of the seren staiusss of lb
poem : —
*' This world I deem
But » beautiful dream
Of shftdowi which are not what they >eem :
Where Tiiioni r«e,
Gmng dim lurmiaa
Of Cho things that shail meot our wokins^t yoa '
Jajtes T. Fewley*
Chtilienham Library,
T0T»B8 A»D RAP?fOR Barokiibs. — Will sowie »f l|
your contributors kindly infr**^" ^*' ^*hy the obovf i
baronies are not mentioned : lie poengl^ j
not even in Nichoks's* or C' ♦! Buai>*fT
yet I believe there were »\^
the following Fine, extrnotea
Devon, 7 John, 119f>-6, to be un^i
*' Fine between WitUaii^ de J^r 'v »f
Niinani toMchinfi the iniT'
remain to each of them, i ■
the Goatle, port, and town '-• V'-.t-.r,,. »»*, » —.^^.^c^ :-^^
Jt^htfh, mfe ofmiti Hcfiiy, Iter dower la M%d darw^«"
'a II. Oct. 17/74]
NOTES AN© QUERIES.
B froi .
*■ allowing charter, ^ximcUd
' It iii diited 3rd Jtrne,
i to WWam de Braom of all
: couu*e4i, And which ht> ih^K
» Welik •neraiea^ in iuercaiia of
D. a E.
TIm CfiMCeutt Bedford.
KpFwrr or Stars» — ^When a child of not more
eight tmd u half yeiirs of age^ and probably
I yt>utigcr, I well remember fixing my eyes on
A star (or pki.net), and being somehow impressed
with a »eii»t* of its tli^tanc^, and with a certain
Iti^ing of eamomnieation or commumoD, which
1 feo thrill me with anxiety. The feeliD^hafi
I oooarfed since. Is the senwition known to
> imd h«ie it anything to do with the preya-
► of the belief in litrolog^- \ Asa Ebbth.
** Tnic Slave."— Was thb poem written by Tom
Moofe on the death of Creorge III. / I have heard
lltnt Lbe subject of it ^m, Frederick^ Buke of
Yoak, but other accounts say it referred to the
King. Ymiu.
Altah Rails Covhrbd.— It ib the custom in
Svmjfleld Church, Lincolnshire, to lay li long nar-
r white linen cloth over the whole length of the
mils whenever tht're \& a celebmtion of the
Comma nion. Con any of your correspondents
'w Any light upon the hi^itory and aigaificance
of thi^ custom, which appears to ha,ve beeA handed
down £r«.i i fonmLtion timcA, and therefore
to have < .z before altar rails were iiitro-
ducfid by iJi^ijop Wren ? Hugh Pioot.
Ai*vs DiSBES. — In N4}rwa^^ braA» lytns dishos^
worn, UD J pur|K>rtiiig to be anci^nti, caa be
* in «ame of the shops of the chief towna,
itjoit &vourite derico in the centra of the dkh
l» Jofihim. and Ciileb cairyiii^ a hirge bunch uf
goipei belivi90& ^lem on » stafr. The writer po»<^
mtmcB Gnm of tlieae akM djabe^ of antique app«ar-
met, ajad boB-iiig a muck dfuced rcpre^ntatton of
dl» Aimmieiation. Are these dishes likely to
^B be ^Dtkine^ or counterfeit antiipiities ] 0. K>
^B XffiA/m of the kind described afa tiispictoasly, m rcgu-d
^■"ifrtlteir BenahieatMt oomroon m Londbn ahopt.J
H Eesliftf.
H HALL, VTYCH, AND SALT WOliKB.
H (j^«^ 3. il 183, 24a.)
^P I im glad to find that my HpecuhitioiU! on these
Vtema,And their coniu^ion with pLiee^oiiTueQ, have
m faftd Uba rfll*ct of bringing out replies from thn«
corrwponderju. I do not And, however, thiit much
■ddJtSoDn! T'.'.lhf hi- ret hrrn throTrn nrt the qTir>-
lli^n, whi '
i« a l:ii- ■. ■ !'
f ofthi
which may not be without its influfince on our un-
derstanding of names of places in other positionis.
I quite agree with W. B., that ** fi^ee dimmimion
\n an excellent thing for ooontcracting our nataral
tendency' to substitutTe fknciefl for facbi^ and
fallacies for argument.'' It l9 an amnaiiig tHiis-
tmtion of this sage dictum, that W. B. canHiides
his letter by atx^csting that ^cick means waJUr.
He might as well have suggested that it mean«
a pot of beer. There is just as much authoritr
for the one as the other, that is, abfiolately ntf,
except his own assertion. I never heard of any
language in which wich means water ; certainly no
languayje erer spoken in the British islands,
I wish, with your permission^ to ft>llow up the
subject a little more in detail* It ift not without
its diffieulties, which can only be oTercome by a
close attention to existing &c^ and aubmission to
whatever results a fair and reasonable infeceutte
may lead to. I have no theories to maintain, and
am prepared to admit whatever coacluaicnw mny
be warrunted by a rigid analysis of the iScts
before us.
TJie problem we haTB to solve ia this : it there
any etymological connexion between the suflbc
icicK found in the nomea of several places where
salt is made and the manufacture carried oa?
Let uij examine the facts.
First then, we find scattered over the face of
the country a nitnabcr of places, the names of
which are compounded with the prefix, or suillx,
ivick or wich. In the interior they are not very
numerous, but they abound round tlie coast Knc,
Eis we shall presently see. Those in the interior
are principally in the midland districts neopledby
the Angles, Worcestenshire having, probably^ the
greatest number.
I suppose it will be admitted that place- names,
when originally applied, had a meaning, and that
this meaning is to be sought for in the language of
the people who occupied the localities when the
names were given, in an Anglian or Saxon dis-
trict we may, therefore, usually look for an exphir
nation in the Anglo-Saxon tongue. I have carefuHjr
examined the works of Bosworth, Somner, Hicdts,
Lye, and Stratmann, as to the Anglo-Saxon ;
Wachter, Griiff, Grimm, and Schiller, as to the
High German connexion ; Meidinger, Drcfenbach,
Ettmidler, Gabeleotz, and Loebe, as to the Teu-
tonic languages ^nerally ; Hire and Cleasby-Vig-
ftisson, a» to the Norse ; and Bopp and Benfey, aa to
the Sanaidit roots, with other ^v^irl-tt r%.1fttincT u^ fhe
minor dialects. Whatever «' ^e
authorities may be^ in oul* e,
that the A.-S. Ttrtc meaiis n
the eouivulent of S;l^J^^k. )> -
Or, ofituv (v,
Goth, tstiht: i
mjk; Cym , fwh<; Bittou,
Slavonic, vricz or wCt:..
13
; Lutin, ^k-U4t
m, xvik; Dttt^jh,
qicik; Gael fUhi
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
(P* 8. n. Oot, 17, 74,
It m found m the Platfc-Deut&ch in such namea
as Juiichy Wittlich, Zulpich ; and, in Nieder
IXeatscb, In Maurick^ Waahcyk^ Oosiinvyk^ Kait'
wjfkf &c. If a conaensas of all who Imve ever
examined the subject ia of imy value, wich means a
dwelling when applied to the A.-S» names of places*
We now come to the numerous suffixes in -tt?%ek
or -tdchi extending like a fringe or border round
our coasts. It wiB be observed that these are to
be found exclusively on the coasts Tisited and
settled, permanently or temporarily, by the North-
men. BeginniDg at Berwiclt, and ninuing down
tho east coast, we find five in Northumberland,
two in Durham, and, on the Yorkshire beach,
where the Danes are known to have settled per-
maoently, there are no fewer than thirteen u^icks.
In Norfolk and Essex they are numerous. On the
Thames, which we know was frequently rav^ed
by the Vikings^ we have Greenwich, Woolwich,
ChiawJck, Hampton Wick. Sandwich is not far
from the mouth of the Thames. After leaving
this, the mck^ become very mre on the southern
coast, which was better able to protect itself against
the rovers ; but, after rounding the Land^s End
and crossing the Bristol Channel, we find them
very frequent in Glamorganshire and Monmouth-
ahire. La the barren, rock-bound coast of North
Wales they are not met with. In Lancashire and
Cumberland they are again found up to the
Scottish border, and beyond. In Scotland we
find tliem wherever the Danes penetrated, as IVickj
AbtrbroaUi-wichj Uig in Lewis, Uig and Alt^jridg
in Skye. In Orknev and Shetland, we have Lcr~
wickf Sandu^ck^ Ukanneneickf &a In Ireland
they are not numerous, but are found where the
Danes settled^ as Limerick, He! wick, Smerwiek,
Wicklow. In^ Norway, vig is, of course, very
common, as in Laarvig^ Brevig^ Lundmg^ &c.
In the Norse language^ the primary meaning of
vig, or vik, is a creek or inlet, generally of narrow
dimensions, in which the small Norse skiffs could
securely harbour themselves. This description
more or less applies to all the coast-liDo toichs.
The creeks have^ in many cases, been silted up or
obliterated by the fluctuating action of the sea
and land, but the pkvces so named are always
within a short distance from the sea.
We have thus one set of itnch, or wichtSj of
A.-8. origin, meaning a dwelling, and another set,
of Norse origin, signifying a small creek or inlet.
Is there any connexion between the two terms in
their etymology? Boawortb, whose remarks are
|jenerall)r characterized by good sense, thinks there
IS. He supposes the primary meaning to be that
of security^ ?ciV being often used for a fortress or
castle, and, in like manner, the Danish vig wj*8 a
placo of security for vessels. There is another
word, xoig^ meaning war, or battle, but the
radical is different. Several other authorities coun-
teniaice the same view.
Let ua now turn our attention to the salt witku.
The principal seats of the salt manafaciaro in
England are in Cheshire and Woiceeterskire, and
they are almost entirely confined to the places
with the suffix widi. When the salt duty
repealed in 1824, there were i«eventy*five i
where salt was made from brine springs, or
salt, the whole of which, with the exception of twx^'
in Durham, of recent discovery, were located at
the Wiches of Cheshire, Droitwich, in Worcester-
shire, and Shirley Wich in Staffordshire,
cumstances remain much the same at the preaail^
day.
The earliest seat of the salt msnu/actnre in
England was in Worcestershire. There have been
extensive Roman remains found at Droitwich, and
some have placed there the Boman town of Snlinfi,
The earliest post-Roman notice is a.d, 81 G, when
Kenulph, King of Mercia, gave ten hous^ in
Wick (now Droitwich), with salt furnaces (salinie),
to the Church of Worcester.
In Domesday Sun^ey there is a remarkable
difference between the entries of the wits and th«j
vnches. Many of the ordinary townships wh-
there Is no reference to salt hfive the terminntioaj
'Wic or -rte, as Willingewic, Celdwic, &c., but, li
every instance where salt works are mention
whatever be the name of the township, the Mit]
works are called unch. In Childeminatre Manorij
with sixteen outlying Beracickg, or hamlets, nonft:
of the names of which end in mc, the gei
assemblace of salt works is called rdch^ now
rmch. The brine springs (pntei) are described
three portions, Wicn, Mi dole wic, and a third not
specially named. There were five putHj and 136
salt-pans [salintf)* In the reign of Henry VII,
Leland describes the same works as Upwir*^
Middlewich, and Netherwich.
The Cheshire salt-works are described in Domes*
day in much the same terms : — ** Temp,
Edw. erat ia Warmundstrov Hund, unum Wit
in quo erafc puteus ad sal faciendum"; "la
Mildefivich Hund. erat aliud Widi" &c. ; **Ili
eo^iem Hund, erat tertium BWA quod voostttr
Nor-wich ; consuetudinea erant ibi qute emnt in
nJiis Wichis^'* &c.
In 1345, according to Matt. Paris^ Henry 11
in order to distress the Welsh, who had made
irruption into Cheshire, ** puteos fecerat de W\
obturari et everti/' In the reign of Edward I„
a pipe roll of the expenses of conveying the
robe of the Princess Elizabeth by way of Ni
wich and Macclesfield, the entry is ^^Le Flj
Cest^ Wiz et Maclesfield.'*
Brine springs have also been worked at
vdch lind Fouhoich, in Broxton Hundred* and
Shirtey IVich in Staffordshire.
It appears from these statements to be
established fact that, from the time of the Mcrcisil'
Angles, the inland salt-works have been known
not
136^
richjj^l
6»aaoot.ir.'7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
311
>
by the distinctive appellation of mchei, and that
nilt has been made nowhere else. It in an
Additional confirmation that the honses containing
the salt-fMuu have always gone by the name of
tryck boufles*
A»»axniiic these &ct8, whence ia the name de-
rired I Following the lead of Mr, Taylor {Words
and Pla€u\ in my fonner article the view I stated
was that the terra waa *' derived indirectly from
the None vig" the inlets ao called having been
the primitive »eats of the salt manumctnre^
Further research liaa convinced me that this theory
cannot be maintained. The tcnu wich^ used in
816 to describe the Worcentershiro salt-work^,
ooiild not have been thus derived^ for the North-
men had scarcely set foot in England at that time.
Further, the salt works at Hay ling Island and
eliewhere on the coa^t, mentioned in Domesday,
are always called ^a/iw^F, never vnck* But if not
so derived^ whence came the term \ It cannot be
*aid that it was given by the Cymry before the
arrival of the Saxons, for wich has no such me/in-
ing in the Cambrian tongue. The brine springs
were known in the time of the Romans, and we
know not how long before. Is it beyond the
bounds of possibility that the name may hstve
existed before the Celtic immigration into Briiiin,
and is a relic from the Euskarian races who pre-
ceded the Celts ? In the Basque language gaiz
is the word for salt. I have not at hand the
Pinnish or Lappish equivalents. Perhaps some
philological inquirer may supply this, and throw
some light on the solution of a question which,
thoagh of limited extent, is attended with con-
nderahie difficulty.
Amongst the extensive MS. collections belonging
to the Corporation of Liverpool, I hare met with
an account of the sidt works in Cheshire drawn tip
about thp middle of the last century, by Mr.
He? ens, who was largely engaged in the
trti^ 1 . » was himself a Low German by birth.
He duiivc%b the term ujtrA from Low German wijck
or ttn'cra, sacred, devoted, alleging that the Northern
luitioDS attached great sanctity to salt springs from
Iheif hiftlliig qualities.
In jhsferenoe to hol^ hcUle^ and ftalkin in connexioD
with the salt manufacture, I have very little to
Mid* Mr. Taylor refers to Prot Leo, and to
fieoder, Mahn, Grimm and Gamett, in support of
hit views, I will quot€ a few words from tne last
writer (Phil. Eim^fg, p. 149):—
** H<e ftod HaUein &ra DB.meB of Tanous plices io
Poutherti «t)d Middle OerciKny poneniiig nJt worka;
and in some JcM:]ditief KaH in used «• fttimpleappellatife,
' '": ^ ftiiY pUce where ialt is m&nafaciiired. It is
II tisai Southern Germany was long occupied
I tril«e, raany of them emigrants W)m Gaul,
isMd ihU at ouct polnu out the Cymric and Armorican
|Aa/> ia^ntj nit, ai the etymology ^ lueh places,'^
Oms word with W. B. before parting. He is
evkleiiily not accaitomed to philological inquiries.
or he would not have penned such a sentence $»
the following : —
'* There it no more sertous fallacy than the aasampMon
thjit modem WeUh and Gaelic may be taken aa safe
guides in the interpretation of uncient names, There
is no part of Britain m which local names hare been to
^nerally metamorphosed in order to adapt them to
modem meaniDgs as Wales."
I would merely ask if a modem language is no
guide to the study of its mother tongue, where are
we to find such a guide ? As to the place-names
in Wales having been metamorphosed as W. B.
describes, my own experience^ which is now of
some standing, is to the direct contrary. There ia
no country in Europe in which the names of places
are more easily interpreted than the Principality,
Pwlhelli is not the ** salt pools '' because of the
salt water in the sea, but because of the salt-pans
or lagoons in which the sea water was evaporated.
J. A, PlCTOK.
Saadyknowe.
Mr. PicTON is undoubtedly right in regard to
the use of iHch as a place-name. In the many
trieki and t/wib in Devonshire there Ls no inference
tu the nature of the locality or to water. The
word simply means " habitation." The wot means
to ** enter," to ** arrive," in Sanscrit, where already
it served to designate a dwelling. In Norse
Viljt.1 means to go," to ** traverse'' fcompare
German irc^^ English way), and it is probable the
Northmen appli^ this root to their fiords, calling
them the way, the path (compare the Greek name of
the sea, poittoff, the path). The Northmen (FtZi-
iii^s) gave the name to similar inlets which they
frequented in England, and where in many cases
Midt was made ; hence the connexion of tekk with
salt-works.
With regard to the halt and sals, it is neoeasaiy
to be very cautious. In German both forms, hal
and sal, are used for a building, from a very general
root, meaning to " cover.*' Nor need we go to the
idea of salt for the explanation of the names of
rivers, such as Saal, &c. In Sanscrit mUi = run-
ning water: root #aZ=:to ^. It is more likely
that the name salt was denved from that of the
sea, from the above root (Greek aAy, halt), than vic6
vtral C. O. B.
Tlie name of the Essex Halstead is said to he
from hcrt-gttdl— healthy place, which agrees with
its situation. Eallein is found in Latin Halla;
and HiiUe (Latin Hula) in Saxony, according to
Lamartinifere^ was originally DobrAotxt or Dobrt'
talii^ which he renders Bon Set; bat perhaps a
better translation of DobresaLi (which would
seem to be a Slavonic compound) is " good hall**
Wachter renders hall^ saUna ; and hall, domus,
polatium, no doubt, i.q. ted, domus, temptum^
aula, pal at i urn, curia. We have Halle in Anvers,
Brabant, Gelderhind, Brunswick^ axyl WvjefcsjBa2e*.%
312
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t5*arLOttrI7^7C
tat I dowbt whether any of these had their n&mes
from salt mines or works. Agaia, there is an
ohjectrion to Kelto-Teutonic compoimde, unless
part of the compound is from a ri^^r name. Eu-
ropean river names ue generally derived from a
Keltic word signifying ** wnt^f '* or *Vriv^/' or
from such ii word and & irooable denoting the
quality of the water ; but not UAually from a
simple word signifying^ for instunce, " salt,"
*' black," '* whiie/^ " red/' '' great," '' tittle." Saal
ui the appellation of two rivers of Bavaria, and
4)ne in Pomeramiu There is the Saale in Saxony
and Sakburg ; the Saalach in Bavaria ; the Saal-
biLch in Baden. Theae namea aru probably from
KelHo al, ilj *^ water^" preHxed by sigma* The
aamo root h found in the river names Bil, Bill^
Till, Bdl, Gille, Willy, Bille. IL S. GHAttNOCK.
Graj'i Inn.
I gather from Miss R, H. Busk's Valkys of Tirol^
p, 149, &c,, that there were Sidt-works in operation
m the neighbourhood of Hall^ North Tirol, as
early as the eighth century ; and that even in the
present day its chief industry la manufacture of
the Kalt brought from Sabburg. '' The Hallthal "
is "otherwise called the StdtxthaL" Miss Busk
quotes Weber's derivation of Hall, from a\% salt,
remarking, ^^ though tr/^^ it should have been dc^
riv^d from the Greek he doejs not expkin.''
St. SwiTHiN.
fTMs dIacuifiOQ is now olofed. ]
SunniijY Provincialisms (5^ S. l 361, 434,
517.)^I kive often thought of writing a note
about provincialimns^ in the hopc^ that it might
leiul to more care on the part of those who writ^»
abomt them. I regret to say tbnt I huve repentedly
aein nwds put down as provincialisms limited to
a particular county when I well knew that they
were in use in other uuuntics^ Nor is this all ;
'' N. «& Q." has not unoommonly b«en favoured
with words as provincialisms which are goed Eng-
lish words, and used by standard authors* Now,
the use of " N. & Q/' in this maitter depends
entirely upon the a<'curmjy of the statements as to
the«c words, and where such errors iis I have
referred to are made, uncertainty, if not mistake,
is likely to be occasioned. A very long and not
inattentive observation leads me to think that it is
a moat hazardous thing to iissert that any word is
limited to a particular district. In the evidence in
Jessie M*LachIan's case at Ghwjjow I yma not a
little surprised to see sundry words and cxprerfsions
^whifth were couiraon in the Midland Counties,
The first time I went to Whitby I was equally
^ Stupruied to hear not only Derbyshire words, but
a great similarity in tone, whilst I never observed
anything of the kind at Harrogate. I am so
impressed with the difficulty of fixing the locality
! aroidc^l
of any word, that I would never YtmfOt^ \
more than say that such a word was u&ed in
particular district, and that can lead fn tro mi:
chief, whether the word is used eh*'
The article last referred to at th
note supplies me with plenty of illutttrati
what I mean ; and I tni»t uiis note may
supposed to be written foi ' r purpoofr'
to point out the errors T i to sec
Cfi(iHi9e^ ** to scold vioifiitiv, is very cotiMnoa
in the Midland Counties, and is a gvxKt &gUil
word,
'* That r may pour my spirits Iti thino
And c}iajihi$fi^ irifK the r(Uo»r of -m^ ttyi
All that imped w thcc,"— *SA«ib|waww
The word, like its original, co#f»yc»', mi
tion with words as well ss with a<?tiB*
Sher^, **to prop up," is very cmnmoti m tht
Midland Counties, and is a good English won!
(Johnson's Dictimianj) ; and so is the substaittive
shore^ which denotes not only " a buttrow^"
anything by which a building, &c., is sllofed isp^
Sfmt, *^to get rid o£," is not on' '<,« i
the Midland Counties, but also n '^gW
word. Johnson^s DteHona/nj givee ria
meaning.
Use, *' to aecnstom to,*^is comroon in the IfMted
Conn ties, and a good Bn^^lish word. JohniuMi't
Dii'tionartf ha« " to aecustom to," ^ to habtiuatn.**
Ja*%, ^'^ exactly,** " accurately," is common la
the Midland Counties, and a good Mngliah woni
Johnjion's Dirtiomtfy hoa **ppopeily," **iiaaetlf,"
*' accurately."
Pemi, '^'lively," ** brisk," is comm<m in th« Mai*
land Counties. ** Market peirt,** a man isdttd
by liquor, dnink at a market, Pfeart ia only ihe
vulgar pronuncLition of pert [ and attraly lbs
vulgar pronunciation of a word doe» not eoamobr
a prc»\'incial word.
A deaf man, " hard of hearing,** is commoii ii
the Midland Counties.
Spilt is merely the vulj^r prontimdatioQ of
spoilt, just as loike is of like, the o being
in the one and inserted in the other.
I have said enough to point o»Jt what f
and, therefore, will add notliing on other pares of
the note to which I have referred. C. ft, S*
The word« amtndtr, ammdtmmiif nas tiied iM
French with the same meaaiag aa am«n4mmii M
Surrey. The French have also tha loeutioti *^4iat
d'oreiUe,'* whicli answers to the Bmr^yiam ** hud
of hearing," said of a deaf man.
AjT Ac»d«my.
GfiAirps o» Noftn.TTT to Foamawfaa (B^ S.
447, 516 ; ii 51) '"' " ""* ^
Uogelander, Hoi I
baron et pair d'Angi^ --> ♦*u
pns ^t^ confirm^, Jonklieer ) " i
NOTES AND QUERIES.
313
]
-?f du Armoiri^
lies dt I* Europe^
pjur J. B. Kut^tup, Gouda, IbOl, The prevalent
Engliib notion (juatJy <leiicTibed by Mr, Wood-
wAttO as " utterly absurd '*) that nobility is con-
fined to peers, ani Mich of th^ir sons as bear the
conr*" • • '' ' ' ] i]:.j>cars to me not to be so
rnji I we find it countenanced by
thtj i-vAi.vuc. i.i J\L,<iij,ci smd BarondageSy whoy by
nioBt people, are deeraed authorities on auch
safn\'rL^ A nnpiilir uork of tliiti deiicriptioii now
b**!" r J article on the Nobility
u: ; ^ ; which commences —
^Heraldic twtborifclea divide the nobiiitj of thii king-
^ into two onJerSj— the grtater and tiio i^w,— the
nirr ooniittlng of idji the degreet from a baron up-
dt Aiid inclikeiire ; the latter, of tb« baronets,*
fhta m^tninm, md ^otJeniffft/*
;ied editor bad been flattsfied with the
er ' I nation of what in mount by nobility^
t V ■ been better than to publish vulgar
rr< subject, as follows : —
" Pnctkmtly, Iioireyer, the onlj recognti ed noblemen
iifiiOBgit m sre the peera ipiritual and temporal, and
tbnee who, by eourtety, bear titlei in virtue ol their im-
mediate coimexioo with noble b«iij«i."
Again ; —
** Praaiioally, the degfeea of the aobility .,. are fire :
Dukes {kc.^ to Baroiu), ta which may be add^d a ttxth^f
m%,f Archbiihops and Diihopi.'^
The public having been Informed ai to the
*^ pmcticftUy recognized noblemen/' are then en-
lii^htcned iis to the mm- practice I nobles ; the title
of e«qutit! i«, we are told, of right due to ■' all
L D ' practically recognized 'J nobleuKJUs yoiinger
^' ; that the oilier of baronets ** k now a dignified
of heredihtry disitinction,^ whatever thsit
/ meiin ; tl ' have their precedency
from baronet wiyes have not, thi^
beiii^ hni a tempuniry ai^nity, and the other an
kerilaibto." After reading this (juotation from
Niit»et, we turn to the ** Table of Precedency *' to
«ee the position of baronet^sj^es, and find that
them !adie», the wive« of younger sons of barons
mad YimsOfmtBy and maids of hooour, are all placed
i^/ltr wives of Knights of the Gfirter, and of
Numefttn royal, in the teeth of Niabef s authority,
**a write? of minut'e research" ! Such want of
mr if care in the compilation of *^ Tables
€>f i y " i* not confined to the vTork quoted,
AQd the &Ame tendency to ignore the nobdity oi
• The editor omits to notice that "hemldlu autho-
riile*" are not agreed a« to whether horonete belong
to the prrit^'r vT le?? nnbitlty {^de Colltni*H MnglisL
B'i /r). The Committee of
thr.' lisierted, with apparent
ed was the Bixth
ii^refore of Dobility
I tho tSHtijb Empire ; and
" "I by a feat in the Lordj
the British gentry may be traced in other works
hujxu gen^rii, C. S, K,
pRnrr Ooitkcil JaDOKKirr : Lfdhell v. Wes-
TERTON {h^ S. ii, 128, 157, 175, 211, 238.)— I can
only describe Mb, Pickeriko^s mode of reasomng
upon legal subjects as "perverse." To be sure,
judgments cannot be altered after they are recorded.
But the ftict \& quite irrelevant to this discussion,
Mr. PiCKERiNa must distinguish between the
judgm^yU imd the r&tuons for th^ judgvvmt There
is nothing to prevent a judge, who has passed
sentence of death upon a man, from afterwards
correcting a mis-statement of fact in the printed
report of his address to the prisoner, Ijaymen
who dogmatically lay down ttiat such and such ^
course of proceeding is "unknown to the thtK»ry of
the Eoglish bw,' should be quite certain that they
understand the legal force of simple technical
terms, such as '^judgment/'
Bradford.
Tltia discussion reminds me of fi section in
Blacks tone, pat enough for a parallel, and (pimnt
enough to bear repetition, where other minds than
those of lawyers may muse over it, and be
amui^ed by it : —
*' If a man eoanterfeit the King's jrreat or priry eeal,
this iff ateo hi^h treaaoa. But if a man tekei wax bear-
ing tbe iinpre«iion of th* fcce»t seal off from one paitent,
and fixes io another, this 19 held to be oAly an abuse of the
Msal. and not a oounterfeitinf of it : at woe the case of a
certain chaplain, who in such manner framed a diipeniift>
tion for non-residence. But tbe knavish artifice of a
hiwyer much exceeded tbii of the diTino. Otir of the
clerks in Chancery gJaed together two piece<t of pM«h'
mentp on the uppermost of which he wrote & patent, to
which he rezularlj obtaiaed the ^v&ht weal, the label
Ijoin^ throufcn both the skins. He then dissolTed tto
cemenfc ; and taking off Che written patent, on tbe blank
akin wrote a fre»h pateat, of a different import from the
former, and published it as true. This was held no
counterfeiting of the great seal, but only a gieat mis-
prision; and Sir Edward Coke (*5 luiL^ 1€) mentions it
with some Indignatioa, tbiit the party ws« living at that
dsy," — C<mim*niariu, Book iv*, ah. 6y t» 5, ed. 1796^
?oL iT., pp. [83] [84].
A question was further iiaked by another corre^
Bipondent, to tbe etfect, if measures w«re taken to
enforce the real but wrong judgment, either before
or after the promulgation iu its place of the more
correct but counterfeit judgment, what would be
the congeciuence ? Let Blackslone speak agaia^
vol iv., p. [393] :—
" When judjrment, prononncfd npogt conricti'^ii, ie
falsified or reversed, ail former proeeeolii^ aro absolutely
set aside, and the f»aj-ty Atandji as if he had never been
accused. . . . But he still remains liable to another pro^
secution for the same offence : for the first being
erroneous, he xwver was in jeopardf Ihsreby/*
This, too, is an apt parallel What was done
in **Liddel! n Westertoiv^l
3 , "^^ ^^yKMato-
^^b^
314
NOTES AKD QUERIES,
[fi«*g,aOcr,l7,*?l.
Fox-HiTKTiNG (5^ S, u. 248.) — Axon ia no
doubt familijir with the Tory fox -hunter who,
** always living out of the way of being better in-
formed/^ said that there had been no good weather
for his sport since the Revolution ; and ** affirmed
roundly that there had not been one good lnw
passed since King Wiiliam^a accession to the
throne except the act for preserving the game/*
(Addison's Freehold/^rj No. 22, 1716, a paper which
for delicate humour is equal to any of the Coverley
^p€ctat<>rs). The doora of Sir Roger de Coverle/s
stable were, it will be remembered, '* patched
with Noses that belonged to Foxes of the Knight's
own hunting down. Sir Roger showed me one of
them that for Distinction' sake has a brass Nail
struck through it, which cost him about fifteen
Hours* riding, carried him through half a dozen
Counties, killed him a Brace of Geldingfl, and lost
aWve half his Bogn'' (Spectator, Ko. 115, 1711).
J. E, Bailey.
[Addition shows he was no fox<hunter^ or he would
hiivc said ** hQund*" not "* dogs*" J
Haddbnham Churcth Bells (5*"* S. ii, 147,
194.)-For "CrosfiweU" (p, 194) read CropwtU.
For information respecting the Oldfielda and their
bell 01 arks J I would suggest reference to ** Notes on
Nottinwliiimshire Campanology "by William Philli-
more W. Sliif (now Phillimore), whicli appeared
in the Rduiimry in October, 187:2 ; the Belb of
JJcrbifshire^ by Llewellyn Jewitt, F.S.A., appear-
ing in the Heliquartj ; Deering^a Nottinghamia
Vetun d Not^j 1761, and works relating to Not-
tinghamshire. J. Potter Briscoe, F.R.H.S.
Nottiagham.
pRONFNciATiON (5^ S. 11. 267.)— I think
H, A. W. must be aware that the three words
which he has mentioned are only specimens out of
a very large list. But the precise question which
he puts is irrelevant. In * singing or chanting,'^
as is notorious, one syllable may be indefinitely
multiplied into any number of syllables*
He probably assumes, however, that the pro-
nunciation in singing is the same as in spe^iking,
or rather, as it is the only relation in which the
question is important or even perceptible, in jtoelry.
In this view I apprehend that miVf, firr^ ^mr«, &c.,
are always monosyllables. Prayer ^ I bdui^e^ is
strictly a diay liable, but is almost, if not quite
always used as a monoayOable. That it was
originally a disyllabic tuay, probably, be proved
by a consideration which applies to the other
word h^avet^^ and te a very great number of others :
that when in verse they appear as a monosyllable,
it is stiU usual with some writ en?, and wfis, I
think, universal, to write them with an apostrophe,
thus, **pray'r/' "heaVn.** I think the partial dis-
continuance of this practice is due to the belief that
we are at liberty, without indicating any change
in writing the word, to pronounce it either "way.
Among the few innovations which survived, in '
the abortive attempt of Archdeacon Hare itnd
others to reform our spelling, was the word "firr/
which he always wrote. ** Ftery '^ is no doubt inde-
fensible on any theory i but, much as it looks like
a trisyllable, it has never been used but as a di-
ayllable. Lyttkltoit.
" As SouyD AS A RoACHE " (5^ S. iL 274.)—
St. Roche, not the fish, is spoken of in the pro-
verb. He was invoked against pestilence {see
Eecon'fl Faihway unto Frayer^ i., 139), Roke'<H
Roque's, or Rook's Hill,, near Chichester, still bears
the name of this devoted man, who, at Piacenza,
ministered, like Charles Borromeo at I^lilan, and
the famous Mompesson of Eyam, to those suffering
under the scourge of the plague : he died Aug, 10,
1327. He is nsutiUy represented pointing to on
ulcer in his left thigh, which was bealed by his
*^ good angel ^' Gothard,
Mackeksie E. 0, Waloott,
H. J. Bellars (5*** S. ii. 28.)— The title is
lUuMrat&d Catalogue of British Land and Fruh'
rmter Shelhi^ by H. J. Bellars, Hon. Sec. and
Curator of Chester Nat, Hist, Soc,, publi*ihed at
Chester by Messrs, MinshuU & Hugli, 1858. The
work is 8vo., contjiining thirty pages and four
plates. Bellars also drew upon a large stone " The
Historical Numismatic Atlas of the Roman Em-
pire " ; it contains 216 heads of Emperors, with
their dales and comparative rarity of their coins,
and was published by Peter Whelan, of London.
A. W. W,
Leeds.
Bunyan's Gold Ring (5**^ S. iL 126.)— I donat
know who is the present possessor of Bunyan's
ring, but any one who feek an interest in the
relic wiU find a long account of it, with two wood-
cuts, in Jttbez Allies's A ntiquitie$ and Folk-Loft
of Wt/rcfJsUrMre^ 2nd ed., 1852. H. B*
" Wappen'd Widow" (5^ S. iL 224.)— WiU the
following bit from Oower help to throw bght oa
the meaning of the word i In the commencement
of the Sixth Book of his Confessio AmanlU^ be
describes '* drookeshyp " at some length, and with
considerable humour, ending thus ; —
*' He drynketb tho W3rne, but at latt
The vvyne drynketh hiiUr »nd hjnt htm fast.
And {€jth hym dronke by tho w&lle
As hyraj which is bis bonde thralki
And %\1 in his subiection,
And lyche to sucht condicion
Ai for to speke it otherwyse,
It fnlkth that the most wyso
Ben other whyle of love adotcd.
And HO biichappid and acioted
Of dronken men* that oeuer vet
Was none which half so lost hii wytte
Of drynke, am they of such thyngas do,
M^hich cleped is the iolyfe wo.'*
4
8*. 17. 71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
315
I
1 1
I
I
In tbe Glostarj to Speight's Chaucer^ 1602, the
meaning of " wapped " is given as ** daanted."
Gower appears to have meant by it atupified,
entlinillea, of an absence of free agency.
R. R.
Bofton.
Smrelj the word "wappen'd" has reference to
the arms or escutcheon borne by a widow.
Arthur H. Browic»
Brentwwra*
QtroTATioNs Wanted (5*'* S. il 227.)— "A
daughter of the gods," &e.. ia from Tennyson's
I}nam of Fair Womai^ twentieth verse. F. L.
Bat who is ** a cavalier that bore a lady from a
leagner^d town," in the Bame poem ! F. Stohr.
It is aaid of Helen of Troy. D. M. S.
*' Before my lace my handkerchief/' &c., occurs
in Pope^s tranalation of Chaucer's Prologue to the
Wife q/BoUi'b Tale, F. Baxter.
** Bold and erect," &c. — The qtiatmin inquired
after by Mr. Wallace wrs written by the
lUiT, Jolm Home, author of Douglm^ a Trnfjtdtf.
1 tisnacribe the foUowinfj from Chambera's Bio-
ympiUcal IHciionary of Eminent Scotmnen- : —
** Mr» John Homo had the old Scottisb proponeisioa
in favour of daret, and utterhr detcBted port. ^Yhen tlie
fortner driak was cxucllcd from the market by high
dutiM, be wrote the following epigram, as it haj been
^led. thoagh we coafeaa wti are at a Io»s to observe
aaythiog in it but a uarmtive of Buppr>s6d facte : —
* Fiirm and erect the Caledonioti ttood^
Old waa hu mattoDj and hia claret good ;
*' Let htm drink port," an English «tAtesmati cried, —
He drank the poison, and hii spirit died/
Darid Hume, who to bb latent breath contiuued the
•aioe playful being he had e?er been, made the following
altiition to the two controversiea^ io a codicil to hU will,
dated only eighteen daji before hia death: 'I leave to
my fnend, 3lr, John Home, of Kildyff^ ten doien of my
old c?nrct. nt hia choice, and one otber bottle of that
otlir lod port. I also leave him six dozen of
jKirt Ijat he attetti utider his own haod, aigoed
Johu V, , .., LUat he hu himeelf alone finished that
bottle at two littings. By this concession he will at once
tenutoate the only two differences that ever aroae
between us in temporal matters/ ''
It may here be stated, that although the two
fiends spelt their names differently, they pro-
nounced them in the &ame way— a castom that
yet prevails in some parts of Scotland,
James Hogo.
SItrtlng.
An account of the circumstances under which
iliia epigmm waa called forth will be found in
W^ S. xu. 293 ; 3'^ S. viiL 39, J. Majcdel.
176w«MtJtapon-Tynfl.
TE»!rY9os<'8 "Brxam of Fair Women*' (5>* S.
ii. 229.) — Thia toinewhat obncure passage probubly
to Margaret Boper, daughter of Sir Thomas
Kfem 1
Mm.
Citthbert Bbde*
Mr. Addis will find the following extract in
Fosses Livu of the Judges:—
" His (Sir Thomas More's) body was buried In St.
Peter's, within the Tower, but was at last removed by
his daughter Margaret to the tomb in Chelsea Church,
which be had prepared during hi* lift!. Hi* head^ aJTter
remaiDing for some time exposed on London Bridge, a
diagusting evidence of the ingratitude of princes, oime
also into the poesession of his affectionate chlld^on whosa
death it was ouned in her armi in St. Dunatan's, Can-
terbury."
B. M. S,
A Correspondent of " N. & Q/' (I't S. iii. 10)
thinks that the ppet alludea to Margaret Boper,
daughter of Sir Thomaa More. Cf. Mackintoah,
Hist of England, li 185» A L. Mathew,
Oxford.
The allusion here is to Mdlle. de Sombre uil, the
daughter of the Comte d© Sombreuil, who instisled
on sharing her father*3 prison during the Reign of
Terror, and in accompanying him to the guillotine.
LlXDlS.
A similar tale to that of Margaret Roper is told
of the young Earl of Derweotwsiter^ whose head
was exposed on Temple Bar in 1716, and obtained
clandestinely by bis young widow. The two tales
are almost identical. E. Cobham Brewer.
L&vantj Chichester.
WoLLASTON'a "Religion of Natijrb Dk*
linratbd" (S"^** S. iv. 381).)— Can any learned
correspondent explain the following extract from
the Catalogue (compiled by the possessor himself)
of ^^The Engliah Portion of the Library of the
Ven. Francis Wrangham, MA., F.R.S., 1826
[Only Seventy Copies], Unpublished " ?^
*' (WoIltt«ton-6) Rilujion of Haturt, 1722.
** The two Hebrew words, subscribed to this Volume —
with the/na/*M. N. — remain* 1 helievejyetunexplained.'*
In the seventh edition by Dr. Clarke, 1750,
8vo., who translated the notes into English, these
Hebrew words are thus Engliahed : ** Who is like
unto God ?'^ and " Praised be Gjd."
Bibliothecar, Chetham.
F. K R. T.. THE Order of St, John (3^'^ and
4** S. p<w«tm,)— After aU that baa been isTitten in
the last two series of " N. & Q," upon the motto
F, E. R. T., and the (mythical) relief of Rhodes, it
is surprising, and a little aggravating, to find Mr.
Tew writing thus, onte, p. 173 : —
*' After the successful defence of Rhodes agaiosl the
Saracens, in ISll, the Grand Master adopted in addition,
as his device, the four letters F. E. B. T,j, meaning Fortu
tudo tju§ Hhodum Unuil. "
I might make several inquiries of Mr. Taw
with regard to this surprising statement, but will
content myself with one. We have been told
again and again (untruly) that the House
of Savoy adopted the arms ot l\tfi Ci'i^t^ ^^^
St. John; wiU Uu. 'tx.^ \ji^ >4& 5i\!L n^wsS^* «a.*
316
NOTES AND QUEREEa
thitt tun tJnvnd Mu-itvr of
iji on iucoiTwit form, tlie
v • ' ■ ■ '
I:
CM, 14, ISi:*." liir
9(|iitUT >*aUI'old» of thi
rtmnd to ihr lu i * '
connt*i^l till' tlirti
or %• M»r oilH^r »
tfiiMariWuid.u
i£ii«lr luivttl itatemeBt,
Um Ofd«r attuned, and
device of Um House of
Jottir WOOOWAAXI,
AT Watkilloo (4*^ S.
In tnmiiijT nvw mti old
i ^ MSfllfold.
. to View
lui.' is» isiri. LoadoD,
elh% l*ntcrno«t€r Row^
rs li lofty,
lie boxed
and
.: .... . : .,1 the
. cocked hilt, is sun'eymt
<f«>iit' : Mnme mounted
lietcaMd. I
RiNat LAn Tr!I01iib(^ aa. iMJ^Kivg Jo^*s
gnuii of b&d in K«hI) «mi IIm «tt*si]kBttB tamtre,
•i moImI, •mm lo bftve bMtt tfci>i|iii HMk <k
Ite BMMMr U Anbers i\^urt wu «beld by G.
m^ (Im^ Ww. m\ wiib Ibis oaoditioiu
Ibviiffmol o«FiMrorowMfa AmiU bold tbe
SiQwMiky
ibliMbti
bTtb«
bi oblie^ to tobU.'
ttmrni^ papcct^i to ay
a
I nmf KidbMM«Mi»a ibe ir«Mu^
lor F
Ib»
Seig^mtCliMlieEwartcf^T'"— -'- ^i^iii
Qom, In commemor&ti' . tbo T
of tne "Eogle" wa« cotitc... . ^,i .„.. ,:A;oto^
And Bergeant £wart was promoted U> an en
in the 3rd Vettnin B%itialion.
HENRr F. PoKMMair.
In the memorable ekaj]ge at Waterloo of tbe
Si^ots Grejs, in which wneral Pottw>fibjr «■«
killod (and which so forcibly struck "' u thjtt
he said to Lacostc, the Belgian G i rtci\i
by hia side, ^ Ces tenibks cbovBUx gns : conune
ik tj^vailient 1"), Sergeant Ghavin £«rMft^ol ^
Reigiment, captured, alter a tnool i
the Ea^le of the French 45th E^^mkeoly i
were inscribed the words **Jeiia, A
Wagrara, Eybu, Fricdland.**
WiLuav pLasT.
11^ PicoAdiUj,
Mil Storr is mistaken in
DMisnik, BmO, 8yol» 1788, IM,
■ W . Hsmitoii oaotei ab« «■»
lines are hj Scaliger ; Umj on hv
(& WmtMmi DMisnik, BoA
liL p. aeS). Sir W. Hsmiton ^aota
tban once, tbougb nc^ei; I tbinb:, in
nomt; and be qoolea Ibcfli oboc,
aoooalx, Tbejr ran tbns in tbe 4 '
•'BklibM^eiltaMoi
larfo^ el fomr itgineta fol^e
DorvLX Cbsistiax
wboMooeedBdiD tbe title
WiLuav FLasT. J
*»8.n.OeT.17, 7*.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
317
Mmwrimm pMum in wliicli Lf/eidm fitst i^ipeMed,
I ifid Ibe liiiet thiui |niiited ; —
*• Bo tnmy gome gestle Muse
Wilh lucky wordg farour my destin'd wm.
And M be paMci, tarn
And bid £ur peace be to my sable shroud."
P, 20,
There can be no doubt as to the correct rending.
Tkt &et U, "Maac" is her^ put for *^poet" ; as
m llto Fmrie Quem4, B. IV. c xi. st. M :—
^Mj nothpT Oafsbridge, whom ai with a crownc
Bt dolb adorne. and it adorned of it
Willi txmmf %^«tUU «iii«e and wmnj a learned wtl,"
Sbakspeiue^s Slst poanet begins;, —
**tk> ia it not ivith me as with tUiit miiM,
Stirred by a pamtcd beauty to hu
I
Sharp-jiidging Adrlel, the mims' friend,
Himietf a muse.**
^l&«iiom and Achilophel^ Part I. (Scotia
/>r^rfc». 1821, ToL ii, p. 243).
Ydr lefiereaoes to the above exAniples of this ii^ie
of llie word, I am indebted to u note of Mr. J. W.
Hdet, co-editor of Bishop Percy's MS. folio
ilxmffrr Englitk Foerm, 1672), on line iriS* of
Speofiers Prothalamion : —
' JIad great Eliaiee gilodoiw oame may ring
TlirMigh al lite world, fil'd with thy wide Alarmes,
WIUeH amne brare muse may sing
9» agei following
¥p(tt the Brydale d^y, wbJeh ia not long.''
Bl*AKKS HkUDSRSOK WlLLIAMB.
Kcixntigtoa Cretoetit
In Bpito of Mr. Macadam^s reply to the sibovc
qaery, I have no beMttJition in saying that he la no
misprint for ilu in the puasa^ referred to. It is
clearly he in the origiDiil MS. (preserved in the
library of Trin. Coll. Cambridge), in the printed
cdiiioiM of 1638, 1645, &c,, ond in all others that
1 hmr^ ever seen. Muse heit? means poet; and
llwogii the use of the word in this sense ib rare,
Uie ini^tiince in Lycidm is not a solitary one. For
HI exam iniit ion of this and other pnAaoges in the
mid pcjcm, I would beg le^ive to refer the ciuerist to
wy noent edition of the L-^dcLn ivnd Ejnteiphium
U&mottis, published by Messrs. LoDgnians.
C. B. Jerram.
DoMMflCAK (!•« S. iii. 25; 5*^ S. ii. 228, 280,
ii0L)—The Dominical, Mass, or Sacrament penny,
W9M paid on Sunday by parishioners to the curate,
ill oroer to psovide the £uclmri«tic elements.
LfodvMd nays tliat —
" Aftiioea «4 negotiat(Tre« Civitatti London ex ordh a*
K
tjoiiA obecrvftftt t^ueritur m^/u DomtHiciM
d&laf. ft in pri».' ir,..]Li,,,. f, -rs. et 8. Apoeiolorum et
lur, oj^trt€ yro iiDgulis
jLiam Inhabitant unitm
^uiiilxt fidcliB tcnetor in Dominieia
eialtk feettria diebu« oUcrre" (Lib. liL, tit xtII.
p.3ca^
Tbo fwiuiy was a conventional offering (Willcine,
iL 163); hsiyee the proverb, '' No penny no pjit<'X'
oo«ter'' (Goverdale, ii. 259; Bradford, ii. 250).
Somner gives a record of 131^7, showing that the
cuAtom at Canterbury was identical with that of
London : **Antiqua et rtttionabiUs oonauetudo tim
in nofltra civitate quiim alibi per totam civitatem
London' antiqultiiii observata et legitime prat:-
scripta." And in another record of a suit, 1457,
it h stvid that the vicar of S. Dunatan's '^ victoriam
obtinait in aisu eonsimili/* over a recalcitrant
parishioner, ^* per sententiam definiiivom '* (Som-
ner 3 Canlerburif^ -^PPi 46&-471). *' CuBtom in
other cities," says L'Estrange, ** hath established a
not much different proportion " (J^iaac^, ch. vL
(180), p. 276). The allusion is probably bo York,
Worcester, and Exeter, where, in 1515, Iznack^
in his M§nwriodgf atatee that there tvas a miit
about the custom called Dominiciilfi in the Guild*
hsill. They seem to be included under 7 & B
Will III., c. 6, with ^*&ll ofi'erings, oblations, and
obventions due in their sever:il parishes, according
to the rights, customs, and prejicriptions commonly
used within the said parishes respectively," It
will l>e seen that this Sunday payment differed
from Easter dues and those of the four offering
days. Its object was as follows :—
The present Rubric and Canon XX. of 1604
(which I have grouped in my recent annotated
edition of the Canons) agree with regard to the
proviBion of the *' Bread and Wine** " at the charge
of the parish.'' In 15.52, 1559, and 1604, thia
rubric followed : — *^ And the parish shall be dis-
charged of such sums of money, or other duties
which hitherto they have paid lor the name, by
order of their houseB, every Sunday*" la 1549
the rubric wiuj :—
" Fortotnucli »€ the pastors and Caratei within this
realm Bhall continually find at their costs and chargea
auSicient Bread and Wine for the Holy Communion [ai
was ordered by the IL Council of ^acon, 585, c 4], it ia
therefore ordered that in reeompence of each eoet» and
ohargea the parishioneni of every pariah shall offer enery
Sunday, at the time of the offertory, the jiui value and
price of the Uoty Loaf^ with all such money and other
things a4 were wont to be offered with the same, to the
use of their pastor and curate, and that in etioh order
and course a^ they were wont to find and pay the said
Holy Loaf" (Keeling, p. 2S4).
The " other devotions of the people ■' are »t ill
distinguished from the " alms,'' and certain sen-
tences of the offertory relate to maintenance of the
clergy. Mackenzie E. C. Walqott,
I venture to tend yon my views on the origin
of this curious charge, which one would have
thought would have become obsolete in the pre-
sent day.
Acoording to Tertullian, Q. S. F^ in his work^
.4^ VxoTtm^ the matron of a (amily was allowedl
to carry home a piece of the oonseorated bread, <»r
wafer, in those early days of Christianity, from th©
church, to be taken privately in time of ^CT*«^3<aL.-
tion, and perhaps ucViKsa^ ia ib^ «wst^ UiXvrmflia,
318
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5* an. Oct. 17, 74.
A^^
It was placed on the hand by the priest in a linen
cloth, which was taken to receive it on Sundays ;
and the handkerchief, or couvre-chtf itaelf, whicli
waa always kept in tke bosom, eventiially took
the name of " Dominical," May not the priest's
fee of one penny, on the occasion of supplying
a piece of the sacred bread, or wafer, called
Eucharist m those days (the early part of the
third century), have been the orii^in of this strange
fee of the present day ? Geo. Peacock:,
Eegeat Uoufle, Starcrowj Devon.
KoYAL Heads on Bells (4^^ S. ix, 76, 2bi\ 3D9 ;
xiL 85; 5*^ S. i. 235, 4170— The aet^ond bell at
Stoneleigh (near Kenil worth) has on it two royal
headB like tho«e found at Battisbani, Cambridge-
shiie ; it has also two shields and this inscription :
A * FKTEKTE . BEMONE . TV . UftltA /'
Henry T. Tilley.
Augartus Eoad^ Edgboeton.
Music of tiie "Carmagnole" (5^"* S. ii. 8,
169.J— Ko doubt Mr Bouchikh could get the
music of the CannagnoU by application to the
" Chef d'Orchestre " of the Adelphi Theatre, as it
was very effectively sung and danced on that stage
in the performance of Webster^s well-knoH n dnirim
of the Dead Hmri, H. H,
Lavender Hill.
Tee Templars and Hospitallers (5'^ S, iL
110, 173.)— The red cross of the Temple was
similar to the present eight-pointed Maltese cross.
The original cross of the Order of Saint John of
Jernaalem was u patriarchiil cross. On the dis-
fiolutiou of the Order of the Temple, with all its
property, rights, &c., it was transferred to the
Knights Hospitallers of St. John, then KnightiS
of Rhodes, and s'dterwards Knights of Malta.
These hist assumed the red-cross banner of the
Temple, aad eventually made it their favourite
flag. The war-banner of the Temphirs, " half
black and half white, called Beaus^ant," is de-
scribed in the Huf&ry of Uw KnighU Ttimplar$.\
Knight of Somerset.
"Defender df tbe Faith" (S**^ S. ii, 206,
254.) — An interesting note on this subject, by
Christopher Wren, Dean of Windsor^ m preserved
by Peck, in ** A Collection of Divers Curious His-
torical Pieces,^' etc., appended to his Matioirs of
VromweU^ 4to., 1740, p. m ;—
'* That KinK Ilenrv VIL had the titlu formerly of
Befender of the Faim, appears by the regiater of the
Order of the Garter, iu the hlack book [eic diet a
t«giiiine ; now io my hands by office], whicli huving
allowed to K. Charier L, he roccived with much joy;
• Thia is & word of 1^ letter*. I cannot make it oat.
f Vint edition, p. &0 ; second edition, p. 67. " Le
Ba^uceut de) Temple d'ar^ent ui chef du sable, a uo
crtf^M de gouleg pAaMDt'—Lel. Coll. vol. L,p. ftU.
r in '
DOthing more pleaiing him, ihea that the ri^t of
title was fi^ed in the CrowQ, long before the Pope^i pre-
tended Donation /'
There ia no date to this memorandum, but Daut
Wren was made Registary of the OnJer m 1635|
and died in 1658. Edward Sollt.
Sutton^ Surrey.
Skating LtTitRATtrttK (5^ S. IL 107, 156.) — Th«
following extract ia taken from A Biblio^raphittU
Lid of Worh on Sicimming^ by the author of
Hrnvdhook of Fictitious Nama, Lood., J.
Smithy 1868. No notice is made of this work io
Mr» Foster's list of works on skating : —
"Family Herftld Handy Booka How io Swim aad
How to Skate, Loud.. 1863, 16mo.» 43, M.
"What ia not copied from Th«Tenot, PrxMt, and
Franklin (without acknowledgment), like ori>;inikl mattefi
in moflt of the handbooks, is rubbish. It was in^de ap*
no doubt, to accomoany the pagei on tkatlll^. If there
ia anything that tue publie avoid at ekatm^ time, I
should say tt is swimming. It gives some mott ndicalooi
'futtM* to govtm peraons who have fiUen into deep
water."
W. p. CorRTKKT.
15j Queen Anne's Gate^ 8.W.
" Private History of the Coitrt of Est*
LA.N-D" (5"^ S. ii. 2<>8, 277.)— This work is by
S. Green, a native of Ireland, the Biogn
IHdiofiary of Living AnthoTi^ 1816, infoi
but I should be gkd of aome biogmplilcal
ticukrs. I have deven anonymotiB works '
in my list, the last written in 1622,
Olfhar Hamit.
^fjjrcOftiifiiutf.
NOTES ON BOOKS, &a
Tilt Life of Tho}}ia4 Fulkr, D,D, Witti N^tit
of his Books^ his Kintnun^ and hut Frimdi^
By John Eglington Bailey. (London, Pickering ;
Manchester, Day.)
This long-expected biography is now before tl
public, from whom it is certain to have
lietirtiest welcome. Fuller has never been
thoroughly dealt with as by Mr. Bailey, wj
with indisputable taste and judgment, make«
hero, as far aa possible, tell his own story. Whej
this is not possible, he narrates it for him with
ubility and corresponding success. Mr. Bailey hftS
trod all the ground that Fuller trod, read and'
meditated upon all that Fuller ever wrote^ and
h^is, so tn apeak, wrapt himself in the atmoepih)^ie
in which Fuller lived. He tidces the reader *
hnnd and leads him, too, over that charmed _
he looks with the reader over FuUer'a pages^iuid*
light upon them where he looks ; and the
almost from the very first page, is ajs OODI]
*^ atmo^pherized ^ as the author, and ns uii
love with him who waa one of the mocit
bmve, earnest, and merry Eugliahmen of
meutoos time. That time spread over uiorti
a»8.ttO«.17,7«J
ES AND QUERIES.
319
I
the first half of the BeTenteenth century. We are
with him in hi» Nortbimntonshire home, where
Fuller was bom in 16(^8, We partake of Ms Cam-
bridge experiences. We sympathize with him as
a preiLoher, and we have a warm peitonal interest
in him when he starts as an author ; but particu-
larly when, in 1640, he sends forth his History of
th4 Holy War, We welcome him to London, and
we admire the boldness with which the Cavalter
puuon, on the occaaion of the king's absence from
London in 1643, cave out his famous text from
the Westminster Abbey pulpit, 2 Samuel xix. 30 :
— " And Menhibosheth said unto the king, Yea,
let him (Ziba) tiike all, forasmuch as my lord the
king is come again in peace unto his own house.^^
Fuller, we know, lost all except honour and
courage. These he manifested during the dark
sind troubled days. But the better time came to
him at last, when ho proved to what goo<i end he
had ppent the adverse period, not having altogether
looked bm^k from the plough to which he hiul
early apphe^l his hand. When lie died, in 1661,
his countrymen were familiar with his Davurn
HeinO^is ifiTi, his Mofy War, his Holy and Fro-
fan4 StaUj his Pii^iA Sight of PaUMin^, his
Abel Itidimims^ and his pleasant Church Hi$lortj
of Qrcat Britain ; but they were not acquainted
the work which, perhaps, more than all othens,
Mftde his name so popolarj The Worthies of
England, It la " gossiping,'* as it has been called ;
but, only for such exquisite gossip, a thousand
things worth remembering would have perished.
For such a man, we share in Mr. Bailey 'a admlr-
aiton and enthusiasm. The volume is excellently
got up in every respect, and it belongs now and for
ever U) Englisih literature. It is in itself a Fuller
library as well as a life of Fuller, a history of the
times as well as of the mam It is most appro-
priatdy ill net rated, and has a fair Index. Mr.
Bailey makes full acknowledgment to all who have
helped him, much or little, m this great work, —
acknowledgment which closes with this gracefully
cxprt^ssed passage : — ** Finally, the work has been
throughout furthered, in no small degree, by the co-
operutioQ of my devoted wife/'
I
That be may bear the strict nod learcbing soan
Of hii own conscience, so it be but tru6 I
And the more
An honest msn wilt search him»eir, the more
A sensfi of imperfection w<rtg;lvs Hm dovrn.
And bringd him in humility to God.'^
We have received the followiag i— From Measra Long*
man, Latin MxwrcUa on, Barbaritvi /or Junior Studmtt,
by R. M. Millington, MA., which urns well at effecting
its purpose^ lie., to prevent the jiie of wordi not properly
Latin, us ** conji^care" for " to confiBcate"; And of good
Latin words in meanings they do not bear, aa **inietUio "
Inite&d of com/tKm fckr an *' iDtention.— In Rhfuutfor
the Titnttj by R. H. (Pickerinjt), will be found, as its
njLme implies, much to amuse the general reader. — The
Jlagician : a Drama m #Vw Acts (Pearson). What
success would attend the production of this play in a
London or provincial theatre one naiumlly heaitiUea to
foretell; the writer^ however, anticipat«a for hii work
•* the uiual fate accorded to unaccredited dramatic pro-
duction!,^' and avers "that syBtematio indifference to
every nttetnpt like the present" must be one chief cau»a
of tbe retariJment of **the rehabilitation of the British
Drama." — The Eiujlak Lan<piafjt Speittd ai Pronounced ,
by George Withers (Triibtier), le a plea for a simple^oon-
Btatcntf and unifonn method of epelling. — The Artfjel of
Love, ajw/ otJter Pmm$, by Zero (Birmingham, Conw,
Kylett k Mec).— TA* Circk andSiraigU Lint (Montreal,
Lovell). Parta 1, 2, and 3, with aupplement.
An Old Lwend of St. Pautt. Bv the Rev. George
Broadley Howard. (H. 8. King & Co.)
On the principle that the amateur who aketches a spot
that has formed the subject of Bome great artlat'«
painting, dote not theriby infringe on the righta of the
latter, Mr, Howard thinka himeelf guilty of no impro-
priety in having selected a naaago in the Legendi of
Kinn Arthur^ although they have already been treated
bv the Poet-Lattreaie. Here are some Bam pies from Mr.
llowatd*B tneafloret i—
*' In our middle life
Tmie aeeisB to spare ua for a little while,
Aa If r«lentit}g aomewhat''
AndaiEain:—
"^ffbat man ii there that lives and sinneth notl
And who wo inaocent and pure within^
Barrv CofLifWAiL baa given uncertainty to hiA real
name, Procter or Proctor. Indeed liin combined names
have been put to confusion. The dally papers have
called him Procter; some of the weekliea. Proctor.
Public Opi7iion registered him aa Bryan Wallace Procter.
Look for him in Vapereau, and you find the tirAt uame
converted into Byrad ! In the TiturJi it is recorded that
from " Br; an W oiler Procter " may be made the ana-
gram *' Peter Barry Cornwall,*' but Mr. Procter never
called himself Peter. In '* Bryan Wailer Procter," the
author of Mirandola himflclf found *' Barry (Cornwall,
Poet/' but with a auperfluoua letter^ that could not he
UBed. In Favourile English P&emM and Poett (LoW| 1870),
there ia ** The AngeVa Story," by Adelaide Anne Procter
(Barry Cornwall's daughter)* but in the Index the lady's
name is apelt Proctor. To the prefatory remarks to
his Mejficir of Cfiarte* Lamb the author aigna hU name
** Bryan Waller Procter/* and the name b ao spelt in all
the books of London addretses. The moat satisfactory
solution might, perhapa^, be found in the poet^s auto-
graph aignaCureSj unless, indeed, he were like the late
MiM O'Neil, the actress (Ladv Beecher). who spelt her
Irisb name in all the variety or which it is susceptible.
Turn obituary of this week records the death of one
who has been, from a Tcry eorly period^ an able and
valued contributor to the Be page*, the Hon. Ed w a up
TwiSLETox, who died recently, aged aixty<«ix. The
deceaied gentleman, who \vas a brother ot Lord Saya
and Sele, had filled many important official poit^ an
others that of Chief Uommtssioner of Poor Laws in
Ireland* and more recently that of a Civil Service Com-
miiaioner. But when bis eminent nublic eerviccs, and
Eocial qualities, are no more remerooered, his name will
be held in wel I -de served esteem, not only for his clever
little book lately noticed by as, Th* Tonpue not Eueniial
to Specchf but atill mf»re for the honest spirit and energy in
which he went into the Junius question, and the liberality
which he displayed in bringing those views before the
public in hia magnificent quarto on The Bandteritina of
JuHiu4, noticed by us in " N, k Q." of the 13th May,
ISTI. We do not share the views of this lamented
320
NOTES
15* & n. Ckf , 17, 71*
f»ent1ein«n at to the aavOionliip ^f th« lett«ra of Junlui,
but hii work ■bowed kim to b« an h<»n««l, efttneft in<
eoircr after truth, wboie moTnof}- will be held in affec-
tionate remembrance by &II who ©Djoycd hii friendship.
Mn. JoHK Tims.— There is a taaii down in the buttle
of life. He is cme wboie whole life has been a battle,
Aod at the age of seTcntyfrmr he fdlls to the tn^und,
not vimqiililMd, bui exhrniiKted. A little help will enable
Mr. IMinbe to renew the stmj?ul^* fo*" hi§ will ii good for
wotK and he needi only the meani to recoirer health
»nd ftreogth in order aj^ain to addre«9 himseir to labour.
Thii indufttrioui man of letters bos, in Rvbttance^ con-
tiibttted between one and two htindred Toluinet to
litenttttre. Will kind synipatbistm generoualy retpond
to Lbd iMHSttion coaveyed in the words "' D&te obolum
Betario"t
Th« TraOfWATlON "t" its the NAUtH 0¥ PLACPn,—
On thU subject a correspondent of the JtUerniidiaire
writes, ** tbmt the final j/ rtpreients the Latiu 6iml
4uun, in foeh wofrdi a« Douay, Dnacum ; Tourna,y,
ToTMumm ; Oambray, Camixracvin, &c. ; bnd tbjit acum
11 from the Sanfcrit acat whence the Latin a^wm, wuter.**
Bnoa ef eor readem ai took an interafft in the papers
on "Hatinab Liehtfoot" and ''Dr. Wilmot'd Polish
Princew/' which appeared in our columns some few
yearm since, BiAy care to know that foon after the scpa-
nkle puUtcfttkiu of those pkikts, Mh. Tkom^ purchaeed
a lergfl number of oripoal Letters and documents, t^nA
thut on examiofttion they are found to contain &o much
curious mutter, that be is prepaiing ft volume illugtrutive
of the career of the eelf-ftyJed (Kitc, Princess of Cum-
berland* and some of her oasociatee in that impudent
impcisture.
Mb. C. a. Rbaii, M, Loughboroujib Rosd, Briztan,
writes:— "I am at present emgeged in compiling a \Ui
^ books treating of Christian names, or in which tn^
formation oi» the subject ie lo he found Will any of
your readers kindly help me to make the list as perfect
ae possible?"
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMfiB
WAJCTEB TO PtTSCBASfi.
Parti«tt1i» «f Prte«k ka.. of ^rrj book to be moI dfnct tn IW
ecrvoa br «%««b ft tt mmirad. wtu^xr a«in« aod ftddrtia art givca
fcrltetsttpaaa:—
««ft %M Kft-Minov Fiu?(r;4ttft. hm Priaeaa> t Valf.
isn
I juw QfliaiH. lit eieriM, 3tid VoL
A Pu*# or homvo*^ sboot A.ti. 17».
Wanted Irj J. BvmAitr, Jfog. . t, Stattify TiUu, ]lal«r R«a«li, f^^
PatvnfttVa BlfteVT sad An«qnltie« of Hif b«r»t«,
ftjflBOAta Avr Brnihs, PampliUtB, «r Fiiabi Klatiag ta.
ILtaiit'f WaodwfU aad E««tatcie If uaram. Odd Vols. Af llils er any
similar WviIul
APasi^akt pafaUiaad tbiHr f^n ato bjr mwanka *
Wanted hr tlM ll«t R. & Bmwim; M^rvaaalnr, OecnwalL
Hxniuaa e>r ifotiir Txoxm Scaan, tftt« MaHoe PaloteT to flla
HWJJJJ^,
IfeeFiNirtli. tVoU. Ma.
bt WmkmmJ. f^Ma^ «•.»!, G«itse^ f$euaftt. iieUiav*
'aTkV
^otfcrji tn fTorrfiiionlifiitt*
Tbj Kw?. F. Mant (Egbam) writes:—** A ifirl dug np
in a potato garden lately a coin of Charles I., apparently
a half crown. The figure is on hone-back, with the
interip^on 'Garolua X». o. x. a. . . . bt rib. nsx/ On the
rererse the royal arms, with the arms of France quar-
tered with the arms of Rngland^ a* c. a«td m. ooeupyiair
either side of the shield, the legend itha^ .' ' f iiaiiifM AXt*
6?fCK KJtono.' There i« no dabt t> Z do nil
suppose that this is an uncoamKni < • the nake
of the Under, I should be j^^n > • ,, « ri«Uiar it it
worth any more than its wer^ 'tw.**
N."The f me reading of ti . KiiU^tOdiUm
Ni^ktingaie is this : —
" CooFd a long age m the deep^elved eartlt/'
The last line of the same ttanaa —
'' And with Ihne fi^le away mto the fov«si tfiiii**—
will not hear to hate *' awny " elitninated* KealeM not
ooBot hie syllables on the Angt^ra. Tbe •niirtiilHlf HiMn
of tbe Btanioj of this Tery ode are of tan. elearaoi, and
twelve syllables indifferently ; but not one of them wmiJd
be otherwise than marred t>r alteration in any way.
S, W. T.— The prorerb of ** Robbing Peter to pay
Paul*" was applied in 1550, on the cvccasion of the appro-
prialion of some of the estates of Wettmiiif tor to nff np
the needs of London. A oorreapondent has OMnUoood Hi
use in Thomas Nash's Savi wlk ^om, (e Ai/raa flWJen^
\im (!'' S. zii. 166) ; but Canon Eoberteon haa poi^
out that a siuiiUr, though not cKactly tbe eaine. ezproMMi
is found generally applied at far b:ick tut the twalflh
oentnry :— *' Tanquam si <)niB cr.^ ' ndduai «t
redimeret Petrum " (Herbert of ti -
J. 8. W.— The Count de Charolai^ (iiticrwarJaC
the Bold, Duke of Burgundy) was twice mafriad
firat wife was Isabella, daughter of th - Duke of 1
The daughter of Charles and Isabella was the oetebialed
Mary of Burgundy. Charles's second wife waa IIbT'
garet, daughter of Kichard, Duke of York.
Tnn Rbt. Em MAfisnAtL, Sandford St. MarlS«,
Oxford, aaks for tbe dote of the 7": " - '>— rnpn^
in which occurs the speech of 8r his
coTigtituente on being appointed U, in
which the land question is discuaaed.
T. Eekp (Brighton),— In Psalm xui. 20, jrm wmf
read. **Thou slialt keep them secretly in a Pariuon from
the etrif e of toturnes. '* The passage is hardly app^ci^
to the Cbureh CongrMs.
B. H. BtAPBa.— The custom referred in is n«l nan*
fined to the Town Clerks of London. See *• Jf . Ik tJ./J^
S. vii. 136, 191 ; TiiL 11^ ; and 4>^ S. xl 17, I«0.
Qui Tam (ants, p. 205).— A correqwodent refers jna
to an article in tbe Saturday He^itv of the ^th ef ^^
tember.
F. D. (5ottii)gham).— " It *s all one side, like Brides-
north election,''^ Bee *' X. & Q," 4'^ 5fl, Tii. I#, HI.
Louisa Wnmiftr it respectfully referred to her hnrtlMii
for enlightenment on tbe shuig adages which tninris htf.
Bow. —On the publication of banns in the tnarksi-
place, see our last volume, pp. 87, !£&-
B. (Blackrock).*— References on the aiblnol hMii nl>
ready been i^ven. Ba« 4' ** & Ix. tfSi.
CviiES O'Lyss.— See oaUr, p. 21 ».
A. J. M.— If possible, nert week.
Editorial Communicatioiis sfantild be addrsBsd lo * Vhi
Editor"— AdTertisements and Busizmm LsIMn lo "Ha
Publisher "—at the Office, 20, "' Mtrmftm Bfrsiil, ffl^tkJ,
London, W,C.
Wc beg leare to state that we deeUne to i^tnTft ten*
munications which* for any reason, we do notprhit; aal
to this rule we can make no exception.
To all commnnioatianB shoutd be olExed thn mm* nnd
address of the sender, not neoeasaxii^ for pnhUanibnt bnt
as a guarantee of good faitL
4
4
(^B.n.Oci.24,7<.1
OTES AND QUERIES.
SSI
LOSTDOy, 8AfVBl>Ar, OCTOBEk fi, 1874,
CONTENTS.— N* 4S.
by Mn. Senvs, «Ad otbvr 8ttm
uo^cnjr, S24-<-Tht Boottkh Addii««i«
1 — o^.uiiu -- HtigsMiioli : Iteland — •*TerreUft** —
Wotdi — CtnlMi SlitiiP^ in dAvarder C3»ud)—
<f 8b«it«rr luad "Sou t
(Jute**— •'
auifttit«
Bo
Cor
in the S«TeDt««iith Centurjr —
— PrtTttiKUefo CkKln— Who wrote
^'TiTopahiits Willi— "IViB
-" PluritDa Kemam Uiet "
irnt*" — An Old Song —
'Tiring and Fo0trf—
VATiA— J, Bcrbftft
. lifciid to tb« dark
» — iif-'iwrminy— Auiuora v^ anted-'Armorisl, KO.
Ab1m»rf%t<$d FUee-NftOiei^ SSO—Tba Chpltol of
'- ' D«4icati<n)»—Ioigo Jones and Pkdlip,
i — DeyoDiliin SKfijag* S82— " Wtut if
v.iih the Mxig" 4ic,-*Thib Itev. TbotnoA
Bfabop of Glonccfltor — 6Lr FnincU
ir Luio-Joliel do Toiiie«->BQfi^Bh
^ amUy— " TojimX'tvgvj " — gy^mbol in
"■ L't" : Tennyson— Cf dfiioboof«—
it^foy— Transit f>f Vebus : Jere-
the ru&rk/' S:i5^" Likt» to the
tvc.— Pticutijir Tnnimeut of some
J Quo LAugiuge to Another— Bun yAii«
nmrffif. 33e-^Bu maiaH^—Lijlund
" T"r IUmt •ft," &c— SeifinB
i in WaUfl^Modero Lfttln
. — ••P«troBitt» AibiUsr;"
*t6.
*' THE book;" by mes. sbrbeb, and othek
8EE&ES BOORC^.
JIo one likes to Le baffled j and I liave to con-
tlial, up to this time^ I have failed in my
ipAvoiiiv tu ascertain wliat was the work which
my ' 'aa Mr. Jesse called Mrs. Olivia
W li I > pu Wished on or before 1812, under
the title of '' The Book."
When I printed, in " N. k Q." of the 22nd
August last, the list of works written by this ludy
" beft>re ahe knew her birth,'' in which list "The
Book " makes a conspicuous ficjiire, I had reiison
U> hope I hud a clue to the work to which nhe re-
lemo, and stated my intention of making *' The
Booic " the subject of a ?*C'pjLr.'ite communication.
I fajire been disappointed. But fiahing for facts
[ til like all other fishing. Sometimes we are luckj'j
1 have a good day's 5p<jrt ; sometimes we hiive
I contented with a day plea&tmtly spent, but
*^ (ind sometimes we knd bigger and better
tried for or expected. So it htks been
\ ill ilih cn-ir. No eamedt tearch after any
U-d, and, in my endeavours
r[^ as to "The Book,'' of
^which jVlr*. Strixs cluims the authorship, I have
oUected scitne curious matcriahi for a history of
(^TltS 3^" *' Thi Gtntti/M Book," aa it is some-
times called, well calculated to furnish a new oad
amusing adtiirv-^' '•' '''>■ '' -'- - 'Lit^ftture —
a little toohn t *'K. &Q,"
Being thu.^ .... .. .. ^ ..i.. ,. ...li is not, as
I hope to show hereafter, alto^'ether devoid of
pubhc interest, I tm&t you will allow me once
more to appeal to your readers for any information
they can >;ive tvs to this mysterious volume, I nwd
not Biij that it is not to be found in the British
Museum, and that I hare extended my inquiries
into every quarter from which I could hope to
obtain any result.
Having, firom long experience, learned not to
place any confidence in tiie statements of Mrs.
Serres, had she only claimed the authorship of
" Thk Book " in the'list printed by tne at ]). 141,
I should have been inclined to mive Hdde<:l that
statement to the many other Inaccuracies of
which the lady has been guilty ; but, as I haTO
before me two books published b}^ her in 1812 (the
year bcfoit? the press teemed with reprints of the
real Book)^ on the title-paffes of \\iiich she dis-
tinctly de»cribea herself an ^ The Author of * The
Book/'' it is clear that dbe Irad really ^ven to
the wodd some work m entitled. In the finit of
the workB alluded to, viz,, Mmmn qJ « Frinum ;
ar, Fivil Lom^ ahe de»crih»i henielf, on tke tifle-
pqtfe, a« ''Olivia W. 8 , Author of *Tfce
Book,' " while at the end cf the Preface «mMf
the words, ** The Autiior of ' The Book,' " wfeck
arc followed by her aiitogmph, ** O. W. iknrrmJ*
On the title-piige of the neooad, Mmrit Amm
Lain, the Courttzaii, she mevely detcnbes llir-
96k£m "The Author of * The Book,' " and the
Dedkation, which is dated Aug^iMt 12, 1!^12,
is signed, in her oAvn writinj^, " O. W, Serres."
Ha\i^ng thus shown that no reason^ible doubt
can exist that Mrs. SeiTes did, early in the ^lear
1812 or before, publish a work entitled " ^ait
Book," I hope some reader of " N. h Q.'' will
solve this little mystery, and piint out
copy of " Thk B*3ok ^' cxist« and may be
suited* It may be oon^enient that I should state
that the real Book (the proper title of which is
T/m: Froci.c<lmgii and C»rr4ipondau€ «pon 1^
jSyftjw:^ of ilk€ Inqutnf into ike O&fndtui of Bm
Emfal Hi^hntAH the Prin^^e^ of }r< ' I ed
in 1807 ; was reprinted in many i ier
various titles in 1813 (I have four ur nw ^hhkum
editions now before me) ; but I have been as yd
unable to truce a copy of any work bearing the
title of "The Book'' with an earlier date thau
1813.
And DOW I wiU go a little further, and, as th^
" give and take ** principle has always been one of
the chanicteri6tic>^ of " N. & Q./' I will follow up
the list of works nublished by Mrs. Sexres " before
she knew her blrtli ^ by ae complete a li«t as I huve
been able to compile of those omitted by her from
that list, and those published by her afLer she as-
322
NOTES AND QUERIES.
a. U. Oct. 2^,
m
1
I
TOUied tho purple and created herself Prmceas
Olive of Cumberland*
This I do in the hop« that Mr. Axon, Mr.
Bates, Mr. Cbossley, ^Ir. Maidjiknt, and
such other of my friends lut, when tired of wander-
ing over the beaten paths of Hisboiy, sometimes
stroll into its by-ways, will correct any errors and
supply any deficiencies in it.
I begin with —
A Nmrativt of Qu Fiodiair Cau o/ the LaU Earl
0/ Warvicktfrfmk Eis Lordtkip^i Ottn ManmcripL Sto.
{Williftmi), 1815.
A volume of 104 pages, professedly written by
Lord Warwick, whose name appears at the end of
the Introduction, but which we leam, from a pre-
liminary notice, was " intended to Imve been
published in the lifetime of the noble EarL" Any
one who reads it will, I think, agree with me that
the author wtva Mrs* Serrea, and not the noble
E(4rl, from whom she may possibly have beard
some of the information on which it is baaed.
FcKli, A Letter to the Ear! of W . 12mo., 181<i.
This letter is addressed to the successor of the
Earl, vihDBQ " Narrative*' has just been deiscribed ;
and is an appeal or attempt to obtain from him
certain debts, which the writer alleges* to have
been owing t^ her from !iis father at the time of
his death. It is dated lat September, 1816, and
is signed on the 24th page "QU via WilmotSerres."
I am veiy desirous of procuring a copy of this
truct. I am indebted to the courtesy of a gentle-
man, a comparative stranger, for the loian of the
copy now before me.
Juniu*. Sir PhiUp Franetj denied. A Letter
Addresnd (o the Brituk Natim. 8vo. (Williarai), 1817.
A pamphlet of twenty-f^ve pages, subscribed
" Olivia Wilmot Serres."
These, it will be seen, are additions to the list
of works pubiii^hed by Mrs. Serres "before she
knew her birth," though it may be remarked that
she says she was informed of it in 1815, and these
were published in the following year !
I wLU now mention the books, &c., issued by
her as a royal author :—
The Princess of CumbeHand't Statement to the English
Ifation, at to the Appi\c€it\aji to Minuter t, with the
Lettere Addruud to the Duke of York, the Secretarv of
SUiie, Lord Etdon, Sir Benjantin Btomield, <tc., indmding
CertiftcaUfM and Confrmaiiont of the Princese Olive'e
Rojfoi Parents' Marriage and Her EirlK. 8to», 1822,
pp. 11^3, Introduction, pp. x.
AH the copies that I have seen have the Princess's
autograph, Olive, at the foot of the title-page. My
copy, which was presented to me by my kind
friend Dr. Dalton, F.S.A., has inserted in it several
curious newspaper cuttings respecting the " Prin-
cess," but unfortunately the names and dates of
the papers from which they have been taken are
not given. I regret to add that the same may be
said of a number of similar cuttings respecting Mre,
Serres, which have, from time to time, come inb(»<
my posseasion.
The Firtt Part of the A^Uhmiicated Prt>oft ef ikt
Legitimacy of Her Eoval Highnut OHwe^ Prittete* rf
Cufiiberlandj and by Virtue of Hie Late Mniettye Com-
ma-nd and Koyal Atdhorifv, DitcKeu of Lanckfi^, Dtdi^
cafid to the English Natioj),. Loudon *. printed for Bcr
HiRbncss Princeea Olive of Cumberland, bjr Lake, 60,
Old Street, near the Cifey Eo&d. Sro. 32 pp.
This pamphlet, which is not dated. waB, I
believe, issued in 1830. My copy, wnicb was
given to me by my old and accurate friend Sir
Henry Ellis, has on its title-page, in his band-
writing, *' Received March, 1830, H. E.-* ; and in]
the author's handwriting, " With the Pnncess'd
compliments for acceptance"; and on th5 last
page, " The Princess being at Crawford St., No. 7,
(may) be seen any morning at one.*' In a note
to her Dedication the writer says : ^ The first
edition of this work was published some yean
since, and was Dedicated to His Eoyal Highaen
the late Duke ©f York.'*
I should much like to procure a copy of thii
first edition, which 1 have never seen ; and evco,
to obtain a sight of it.
Can suck things he,
A nd overtake us Itie a summer doiidg
Without onr especial teonderf
The Wfongs of Ber Royal Highness the Prineeu
of Cwnherland ; heing a ptain^ unvarnished Staifmetd ef
ike unparalleled Oppressions injli^ed v^oa that dm-
Hngui^ked Lady. Second Edmon, dedicated to the
Mefortned Parliament, and addretsed to the Briiith
Nation, by Miss Mucaulaj.
The trodden \coi-m 7cill oft arise.
And by new Life its Foes turprtte,
London: Furkess^ Compton Street; and (oIdb>J
CbnJton Street, Somers Town, and the printer,
PliLCo, Kew EowL 8vo., 1833, 26 pp.
The Dedication is signed "Efe Wright MiC-
uulny,-' and is dated from 52, Clarendon Sqi
Soiners Town.
According to the postscript, the first edition bod'
been in hand for several weeks, but some ** Ee^
porter," belonging to one of our popular joanmlbv
hiid been trying to suppress it.
My copy is unfortunately imperfect
pp. 13 to IG inclusive), and I am very i^
prociu-Ing another copy, or of completing iul- mit 1
possess, and of freeing, if possible^ a copy of th<
first edition.
Documents to prove Mrs. Oliiia Serres to he Iftf j
Legitimate Danffhter qf Henry Freda kk, the tafe Dmk$ei'
Cumberiand,
A quarto sheet without date, containing
teen certificates, which occupy three pages,
printer was A Scale, 1(50, Tottenham Court i
I have in my possession the following clrcu
issued by the Princess, all printed in quarto,
first is—
1. The Princess Olive to Ike Engiisih NaHon.
This appeal occupies two pages. Its object i
P»aiLOcT.24,7iJ
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323
ttvite the nobility, clergy, gentiy, merchauts, &c.,
^ " 11 Toluntju-y subscription towards a loan." It
duted from **4, Park Row, Mill^s BtiOdings,
Cnightsbridge, August l«t» 1829"; and in it, in-
tead of ber baving the secret of her birth, and the
Kipere connected with it, communiaited to her
1815 by Lord Warwick and the Duke of Kent,
*Oii examining the papers of Pr. Wilmot, Tarious
romenU of an importjiiit stato tendency were dis-
[^vorered, among which certificatci of the Pulce and
Ducbaw of Cuwberlaud'ft marriage, and mjr birth and
baptinn," &c.
2, To tkt Naval and MaritijM Qffietri of Oreat
In which the Princess, writing from No. 2 (not
Ko. 4), Park Kow, invites members of the Kaval
profession to view the modebof an improved com-
poas, the result of her scientific attidies.
3. A prospectus on one page quarto of a work
t4) be called The Eoyal Olive Branchy to be written
aod published ** in weekly papera " ; but this is cor-
Liiect^ in the copy before me in her own hand-
LwTttin]2[, into "in Four Volumes, at Two Guineas."
~" > Jioyal Olive Branch wius to consist of no leas
ten distinct works, of which the title* are
D^ besides Essays on various subjects.
I hare not added to the list of Mrs. Serres's
J%§ Avihentic Record* of the Court of England for ike
|lwr Snynfy Ymrx, Svo., 1832, pp, 394.
&r the enlarged rifacimenio of it, publiflbed in the
I year, under the title of —
t€t\Hi*ior}f of th( Court of England, from the Aeee$-
» of Oeorai the Third to th^ Bmtk of George the
itftA, &c. Bj Ludy Anae HamOtoa, ^c. 2 Tola, Sto.,
-oiuse as Lady Anne Hamilton, who did not die
lill fourteen years after its appeanince, namely,
1846, never repudiated the authorship, and Mrs,
Berre^ never claimed it, though her handiwork is
risible throughout, I prefer to leave the discredit
Ittacbcd to it in the mystery in which it is at
at involved, — at least for the present,— and
at myself with referring my readers to the
as article upon this subject by Calcuttensis,
' N. k Q.;' 3^ S. xu p. 196.
The soggfetlOQ of so skilled a bibliographer as
)LPi] AR UXusT has almost the force of a command,
ud I venture, therefor**, to add to this a note of
^ ks m I am aware of which illustrate the
I ';Lini8 of Mrs. Serres.
i .f-L .imoDg these is the following life of her
afortnnate and infatuate*! husband : —
oaV# of John TJiomaf Srrret, hfe Marine Pamter to
iajfsty. Hy 9i Friend. 8to., 1826.
i*i a k»ok wliich deserves the seriouM ut-
on *»f ull w)io would know the real character
Itmordinary woman. I say this advisedly,
having lately discovered a remarkable confirma-
tion of one of the most startling incidentii re-
lated in it. It must be borne in mind that it was
published eight years before the death of Mrs.
Serres ; but during those eight years no attempt
was made to impugn its truth.
Between the 2uth May and the 16th September,
1848, a serios of articles were published in The
Morning Post in support of the claims of Mrs.
Kyves to succeed to the honours which Mrs. Serres
had claimed. Anything more illogical than the argu-
ments, or more preposterous than the assumptions,
brought forward by the writer it is impossible to
conceive. Yet, in 1858, these papers were col-
lected and republished under the title of —
A n Appeal for Royalty. A Letter to Her Most Ora^rioue
Maiatjt QvL€tn Victoria from Lavinia^ Princeu of Cum-
herlanU and Dueheu of Lancaster. S?o., 1S58, pp. 92.
It was this " Appeal " (of which a second edition
was published in 1866) which first called my at-
tention to this singular case. It was given to me
by a distinguished friend, out of regard to whom
I had it handsomely bound, and with it another
pamphlet on the same subject.
The latter was one which had been privately
printed at Aberdeen (I) some few years' before, the
impression being veiy Limited, and consisted cbiefly
of a reprint, (if I am right in my recollection,) of
Sir Robert PeePs memorable exposure of the case.
At the time of the Rp'os trial, I lent the volume
to an official friend who attended the hearing, and,
by some accident, it was lost I should be very glad
to recover the lost sheep, which I much prized ; and
even if that should not be, to learn the full title of
this latter p^unphlet.
The next work on the subject is a amall pam-
phlet, by one who knew well what he waa wnting
about : —
Tki Priitceu Olive of Cumhtrland, Hannah Lightfoot,
and Uu A'^Uhor of Oie LeiUrt of Junius. Heprinted from
the Etif/lithman Ntvtpaper of Jane 23th, 18(56. 8vo.
Calcutta, pp. Ifi.
This, it will be seen, was almost contemporary
with the Ryves trial, which took place at the com-
men cement of June, 1866.
The result of the Ryves trial, in 1 866, was not
C4ilculated to please Mrs. Ryves or her supporters,
and their diss.atisfaction found vent in a small
pamphlet, entitled —
Mytea versuf tht A ttomev-Oeneral . Waa Justice done t
A Qu£stion to 6e Anjiwtrtdhtfihe Briiiak Nation, Lon-
don, 1866. Price Sixpence. 8vo. pp. 16.
I am indebted for a copy of this to the kindness
of Mr. Hyde Clarke, who sent with it an octavo-
page prospectus, with names of Committee, &c., of
a^ —
Fund fvr ih* Private Benejrt of Mrs. L. /. H. Ryvee,
dvring htr AppetU to the Houst of Lords,
This is dated August, 1867, and it ia ^x^gas.'i^Vs^
^* Edward West, tfon. ^^^.^ \^^\i5X hswSl "^^^oSs^
324
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[5«*aLlLOct.2i7l.
.Street, E.C„" the publisher, I presumo, of the
eding brochure.
I close this commanicatioa with a notice of^
A Su]spret*td PrinOMi. T5U Auihthtic^ Roma/hiliet
(md Painful HutoTM <if «« Mxcludtd M^rnh^r of tki
RbytU Family^ By Landor Pra«<L Reprinted from tbe
NfiecattU'Gn-Tyne IVetkly Ckrcrf^idt. London. Priee
Twopence. 4to, pp. 8.
This little ** history " bears no dniB ; but though
it appeared in the Nai-caatU Chronuh of Decem-
ber 5, 1SC3, I have reftson to belieye it was not
reprinted until 1866 or 1S67.
TkiE ia ad complete a. list of the separate workfi
by, or relating t43, the Princess Olive and her
clkima as I have been able to compile. One ad-
vantage of its appearing in "N. & Q." will be,
thtA iha samd kiiidly feeling on the part of its
eontiibaianif which ha^ Hone so much to coinplete
my collection, will, I am sure, letui those that can
to give completeness to this bibliography of tho
Series aeandai Wiluam J. Thoms.
40l Sk. Qmavt'B Sqmm, aW.
P,S. My clofiing words have proved prophetic.
Sinc4:5 they were written 1 have received from
A. G.J an occasional but always instructive con-
tributor to " N, & Q.," not only the firtt edition
of the Fint PaH of tk^ Anthcnticatid Proofs ^
with ft Dediaition to the Duke of York, dated
'Rules of the Kmg^s Bench Prison, November 26,
1835,^' but also a separate publication of which
I^X had never heard, —
The S^Ml, or tJ^6 Wonderhd Ptanetaiy Ptedictiont of
82« and 1827; Ewntfui ftar^ e^mcied witk iU Fate
^ Enrope. Bj Pthob'menois O. London, 1820. 8vo.^
It is illustrated by four prophetic plates, " rmb-
liahetl June 1, 1826, as the Act directs.'^ Mrs,
Serrea's name does not appear in it^ bnt there can
be no doubt of the authorshii) ; not only was she
ai th» time engaged in aiitroiogicid studies, as
shown by her contributions to the Astrologtr of
the Nineteenth Centunj, and elsewhere, but on the
title-poge of this copy of The ^ybill there U
written, in her well-known scrawl, after the dates
1826 and 1827, *Mmtill 1 830.'*
BIBLE CONTROVERSY.
"Belfiit itill fltronj? in all the arts of pMce^
DeMrrea her Dame viho vfos tbe ejc of Greece."
If there is any credit to be derived (and I believe
there is, and I wish to seviu^ if f^^- my native
I town) from Belfast having first ; n edition
\eS the Authorized Version of tin l ^ ires in the
ngUsh tongue in Ireland, I feel most deairous to
ecu re it» and give every assistance in my power to
it beyond all doubt or coniroveiiy for the
btnre.
The latest discussion upon the subject the reader
will ^nd in Dr. Madden'a rerj painstaking volumes
oi Irish Pcriodkal T.ifrnirur, niiT^TI4K.d in 18<S7;.
and as they are e;i rfer«iicc,l
need only refer to j _ f* t he fin
volume^ in which the .
devoted to this controvei
Dr. Madden ia evid< it-need by
statements of the late n in<l vf-rj c^n
petent scholar and antiquiuian, Mi
whose name is traceable in many )
Q./- but whose prejudice on tliis pomt i vtai!
to c4iU in question, and <iiscreetly to refute.
On Mr. Pinkerton^s hist visit to Bdihat^ n
time before his decease, he made no con^
in expressing his oonvrction thn ' ^ '^ - - •
smy Bible whatever ; that thi
name were printed elsewhere. ....,,_,
cellent En^sh Bibles were then pnnfrit \n
land, and Belfast may have been iQppijed
thence."
Astounding as this testimony is, it is the nitirv
rcmfirkable in doubting the eirpre^s .ttte-'tation ut
the imprint given on the tille-pafrr. m^ v_-i:tt nf
tbe end of the prophets, ** Belftist, I
For James Blow." I have seen mv:
of the Bible with this same imprint, di
They are lvU quarto size, and onp of them
the Apocrypha, which ends w' ' ' hisl
" Printed by Daniel Blow, In ) et,
h.vcclxxviil/' and he was »uu atiu j-uecessor
James.
In " N. & Q."for November, 18f?5 ^-^ r — ^ Fnr
cominunicateB he has a Bible pn ium*f
Blow, dated 1 755 ; and the three copk. ^^.^,. ..UuitoJ
to ore all in Bel&flt at this mofHeAi, ftod oo^ d
tbem is in the posaesgion of Willam Bloir, a fnnl-
son of Daniel.
In Trinity College Library, Dublin, there b t
small folio edition of the Bible, printed at DuMb
in 1714, which was considered the first Engli«k
Bible printed in Ireland. This impreiKsion mufl
now be cancelled by overwhelming t^timouy. A
Bible, qujirto size, has been discovered, and it ii at
present in tbe book-shop of Mr. AiUilu5?on, in
Cattle Place, Belfast, and the title- poge bfta tbi
following imprint : —
"Belfftnt.
Printed By And F<»r JtmoB Blow,
And for George (jricr'nTt, PriTitrr
To the King's Mfi>i if.
At The Kitijc» Arru s
In EsMx Street, Du. .....
Now, I would ask, would any san*: [m < n
t)m truthfulness conveyed in the :.i^ ^ n i
What purpose could it serve to p^'V[ - i r I >
and profanation* to induce Blow t <
hood on the title-page of the Bil'
cogBtzance of the "sovenirm '' of
was his partner in the pr ; ,
To be brief, I leave li a] i. h uLsauu.
before the public wiilroir ,i L. liitiou of tlm^ <t)0'
viction of its truthful ulv-.
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t
NOTES AND QUERIES.
335
I
I tlunk it an ^iinwi^ite coneluRion to jjjive your
rvaders a qii , i I>r. ^Imiden's vohiriie:^ —
" LMt wl*c'k: , rt illness, died ia Belfiut Mr.
Jmman Fl r, who dtiTing the courac of • Tery
long lift' ty-tl4re« yean of age, mntntaiiMHl a
fftir - ^ 'Jo was a trtuty good nuai,
•n*^ >^ly pious, imd odiidaont
ia t J tiutiea. He waa of n
liuxnase ood gfiiicrixtua ULspo&ition, ftnd remarkAblj re-
nowned for his libenility iis a Uetiafaotof to th« poor,
It !« remarkAble that ho ^as the first in this
kfaigdom who printed the Blble^ of which ho pubUghed
— — cditioTn. '
jiiirarJTRpli h extracted from Faul-
■ ifL Joitrnixh foT August, 1709.
Henht Greer,
A DclfMt BooJcMlkr uf Octogen&rtAn Maturity.
The Nijrrilurii Jilti^ (Belfast) hu^ been pub-
"^ * B^ tt volimiinoiLS correspondeact; on this sab-
suice it was revived in " K. & C^>.," and the
,tt» I 'I'Ks not yet s^eiii settled satisfactorily* It
fe t I of many that the so-called ** Blow'fi
Bii II it printed wholly in Belfast, but tLit
Blow uiitviitied, by purchnse,* or m a, trade onJer,
pnnted sheets, to which he pretixed title-pagee
with hi* own imprint. The NorUiem Whd^ of the
15lh iiHt. hjw the following nate on this point : —
• A little volume wn? brought to our office yesterday,
wilh ttto following mther remarkable imprint :—
V'^ ' V ''lintecl :
And Ti- I by Jaiies Butw
The i'liU of the booic is * A glimpfie of Eternity. Tery
uwfol u> AwAk*n ^mnem and to Comfort SAINTS : By
Alir ' "' ng: dedication, partly printed
«i>'i I the b«ok of tne title-pEigc :
iTli' , Piitiif being a j^reftt Help to
ti»tio»i lis with it, rtsligiuiin Respect Keeommended to
" Worthy Friend Mr Vfilliiini M'tHiwU By Jam'?a
m VMh Mfty ITfi^.' The wording of the imprint ii
v«fy miiwml, uid 8u^^«t« the poenbllily of Blow having
r»-iMned London- printed f heeto, • hypotbeoi* which ba*
been maintained ae to the mooh-diBpaied Blow's Bible.'*
^^___^^ J. D. I.
**THE SCOTTISH ADDISON;*
Few reiid«n of "N. & Q/' are, I iompne*
aaacrjtiainted with Addison's admirable paper on
T*r Its ID the *Spedatt^i: The
foil -a of the epithet in n wider
** A mw> who hns been bfonght np anaonff bookf, and
li able to bJJc «'!», i« i% Tory indifftirent cotn*
paiii<m, i»f>d n I a pedant. But, me thinks, wo
aluvuld iM.iaf-> ,_, auii give it to every ono tliat
ilo^" '<> tliink out of lis profession and
pari . ;'
Uanry iiiick.uvie, who mnU Miy half a ccn-
a£irr Addi^on^ hniJi h i^assnge on the same
a ptLper in the Mirmr, which is so
exp<t4iiott thnt it in difficult lo acquit
"dalibemt^ plniriuriMnj of th© nboye* He
" PodiLntry« in tbo common sense of the word, means
■Ji ikbHurd i>iiteritatiun of Iuanuti)i:< and etitTaeAs of
Ehmseolo^y, proce<*ditip from a misguided knowledge of
ookfl, iwid a total ii" • mcrh iJut I have often
thought that we n 1 \i» sigcniheation » i»ood
deal farther, and, ; ^VV^y it to ihtki failiog
which diipoeea a per^^iu to obtrude upon others suk^ecta
of oonversatiou relating to hi^ own bufiinaoa^ studidVi or
amusement"
The Spedaiory thtmgh not exactly the tint
]>eriodical of its kind (having been preceded by
the Tatlcr^ which first ap pete red in ITtlS) — ^thft year,
by the way, of Dr. John^on^s btrth^ whi^ was
thus distingiiished by whrxt may truly bo teemed a
revolution in modem literature), wm the precumor
of numerous publications of a Himilar chanwler, of
which none were more professed imitators than the
Mirror and the Lonmft^r^ oondncted by Henry
Mfickenzie, and published in Edinburgh. Sir
Walter Scott, in his dedictition of the "first heir
of his invention ^* in the realms of prortc fiction —
Wai^erUyj the forerimoer of a nohio brooil !— -
t-enus the author of the Man of Feeling^ and other
" tales of sensibility," the *' .Scottish AddiBou," and
the title may he allowed if a servile imitation of
the literary style of the creator of Sir Roger de
Coverley may alone be deemed smificient to nusc
him to an intellectual level with his orreat model.
It appears to me, however, that the title is at beat
far-fetched. In Mackenzie's writings there in
nothing piirticulurly Scottish, — on the contrary,
hid litemry cliaracteristics are pre-eminently Eng
lish, B^runger is calletl the French Burnt?, becauae
his genius rejsembled that of the illnatrious Scot*
tiiih }>easiint, while he was intensely natiooaL
Samuel F.->ote U sometimes termed the " English
Aristophanes," and not, perhaps without reason,
for that facetious personage, in whosd p^e^^;nce
even Dr. Johnson could not maiutiun hiH ^^vity,
possessed many chanicteriistics in common with the
celebrated Athenian s^itirist and comedian. Wash-
ington Irving has been dubbed the **Americ4in
Goldsmith," and he deservej^ the title, for not only
did he form lua style on '* Goldy s '' channing and
elegant model, but his cast of mind bore a striking
resemblance to that of the brilliant author of the
Citizen of ifi4 IVorld. He imitate*! Goldsmith's
Chhitsc Letters in a short-lived pcriodic^jJ, entitled
Sfthiittjnudi, but the matter was entirely his own,
and he ridiculed the foibles of his countrymen i\s
happily and good-naturedly as did the ima|,amiry
i'hine^e philoBopher those of the Enfrliah p«#ple.
Mackenzie, on the other hand, resembleii Addison
only HO far as he successftdly imitated his style ;
but, in my opinion, he bcked orinjinality, and yr
not to be wm pared in point of genius to his
Qhislriou^i master. But I have no desire to lower
M iKmitiou in KogH^h Uteniture. Hi*
w< , 1 fcor^ but little rend now-a>days, and
aciircely known to the younger gcnenklion of
readers. The test-t'Ciitt^rj ia ui»sV5 ^jm-^^sA..^
326
NOTES AND QUERIES,
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and there is e¥enr likelihood that he will ere loBg
be forgotten by til but students of our literature.
It should not be forgotten that Mackenzie was one
of the firet to recognize the poetical genius of
Baraa ; and thut the critical notice of the first
volume of Buma'a poems^ in the 97th number of
the Loungtr^ for December 9, 1786, waa from the
elegant {»en of the author of the Man of Feding.
This critique (which, by the way, I should like to
see reprinted, and thus rescued from the oblivion
of neglected Loung^iQH old book-stalls) is written
with considemble judgment and generous candour^
and was calculated to introduce the gifted plough-
man to the literary ojid fashionable circles of the
Scottish capital. At the close of the frnper a
hope is expreased that meajxs might be found to
render it unnecessary for the poet to *' seek under
a West Indian clime that shelter and support
which Scothind had denied him'*; and in all
human probability, but for Mackenzie's generous
pleading in this critique, Britain would Imve lost
one of her manliest sons, Scot hind her greatest
poet» and our ballad literature would not now
include the choice iM>etry contributed by the genius
of him^^ —
" Who walked in glory and in joy*
Besido hia plough, aloDg the niounUm side,"
W. A. C.
Glugow.
Tied — BoaND.— Said a gentleman to me, *^ If
you have visitors in the country, you are b^iund to
have the Fikc Country Baflads^ the Heathen
Chinee, and such, on your sruoking-room table/'
This American use of the word bound I am sorry
I to see becoming so common, both in conversation
land in newspapers ; for it " was an excellent good
I word before it was ill -sorted ; therefore ivriters had
hieed look to it." A few days ago I was t^ilking
^ith a gipsy from the north of Northumberland.
*i thought I ought to remembei' the name of the
who was Miister of the Hounds in those
parts some time back, but whose name he had for-
^tten. On my fading to refresh his memory, my
mend repeatedly exclaimed, " Oh ! you 're tied to
know him, sir." Now, is this use (jf tied common
in Northumberland, or elsewhere ; or was it only
an affected paraphrase of hound ou the part of the
gipsy? A. FERQU8S0K.
Unit«d SurricB Glab^ Edinburgh,
HnouENOTS : Ireland.— The following is from
the Bdfast Newsletter of 1739 :—
" On SAturdav lost search vrnM m&de for gunpowder in
the bouse of the Widow Query, whoie liQibiind woh a,
French Hu^onett. and «old gunpowder ood thott, in a
httle chop in Chnst-Church-Yard ; hut the widow being
A papitt, iind coiiBijquotitly di»ga«dified for that trade,
between 20 and ^^0 |ioiinds weidcbt of gunpowder was
Hi ere seised, and brought to Hb Majesty's stores^ m the
Ufr directs/*
W. H. Pattkrson.
" Terrella." — This word, quite new to
occurs in Byche's LHciionary^ 1773,
preted : ** a load-atone made into a .
spherical form, and so posited that iXh. p^jU
equator, &c., exactly correspond to the
equator, &c., of the world." Tliis is rei
germ of Professor Rirlow*« ingenious ooq
of an eiectro-imignetic sphexe to repn
pohirityof the Earth. S. T. P.
Suffolk Wohds, — The following <
my notice durini^ a recent visit to Suflv
they are not to be found in the Glos-saric* Uy Ma
and Forby^ you may perhaps deem them wori"
of a corner in "N, k Q.'^ Bigoiy, proud; Bong
borHe-chestnut ; Pitskei^ pod of pea« ; Itaek
idle tale, superstition ; Wahpti.% mouth ; a
lemptuous term, e, g,, " Shut up yar great wahp
hoTj- — an obseiTation I heard addte^fted to a no
boy. C D.
CtTRious Epitaph in Clavrrley Cftfi-
iSHRorsHiRE.— The following extract is fr»'iij
Wolverliampton Chronich^ September 9, '.n
paper, by "K. H-, Wolverhampton," enud'-i
** Wimderinga in Shronshire/* He describe* ihi
fine church (very well xnown to me) of Ul.irerlcj,
ShropBhire, and says :—
''Amonirst the many epitaphs ia and amuud tbe
church, that teach the rustic tDoraliat tn dte. tf il>«
(juaifit following, (sk) which Is near the cominaidoD
table, in the ai»le of the manorial chancel, wnttea In
capitidSj on a large blue alnh : —
* Come, Lei tie Go See Mans. But A Fasbion.
Here Dyed One Whilst lu Mis Statioo,
Who Joumey'd Lonj?, Long Joumers Alio M«reliU
Buahtug luto L>eath, LeaTing Every Yard
Near To Bis Home and l»ear Kclatioti,
Here For To Seat Hia Habitation.'
This ia without either risible date or name, ii i
I edged to be of great antiquity, it so mulilaN
coTered vtith dujt as only to be traceable by black 1
and until ver^ recently was aupi>o*ed by most i
local antiquarians to be part of the church/'
CtTTHBRRT BKnt
Epigram :—
** A loarcod prelate of thift land.
Thinking to make Religion atand^
With equall poi^e on either side,
A mixture oi tbeui thus he try'd :
An Ounce of ProtcBtant he singleUii
And then a Dram of Pttpiet mtngktht
With n scruple of the Purit&D,
And hoiJed them atl in his brain-pan :
But when he thought it vr^ digost.
The scTKple troubled all the rest."
Who h the nuthor, and who was the prebi*'
Heylyn, lfio6, says that it was made on iheoc-j
easion of the controversy about the pOBition of tk 1
altar, " or the like occasion/* J, E. B.
Butler's " Hudibras."— It wri r^ V "" "^"
to BpeaJc of fin}' work in more conti
than those which M. Taine haa eiu^n
book on English Literature, when treatingof ifttofi
1
n. Oor. S4, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
327
broM. Voltaire bcld it in higher estimation, and,
cerUinly, Voltaire was a judge of wit. He says :
** There is one English poem, the title of which i&
Budihras, I never met with so mnch wit in one
single book as this.**
Dr. Johnson testifies as follows : ** If inexhaust-
ible wit could give perpetuftl ple^ure, no eye could
leave half re^ the works of Butler^ for what poet
has brought together ko manj remote images so
happily T Ukeda.
Philadelphia.
<EkurrUtf.
[We must request oomiipondenia desiring infortnation
o& family xiuitt«ri of only prir&te interest, to afEx tlieir
namefl and addreooi to their queries^ m order that the
amwers maj be addreoed to them direct.]
I
Travelling Tutors in the SEVENTEENTit
Cexturt.— In the reigns of Mary and Elizabeth
few English youths visited the Continent of Europe,
altlioui^'h many young Scotchmen sought their
fortunes abroad. Yet soon after the accession of
s I. to the throne of England^ and still more
Prince Charles went to Spain, it becaitie the
ion in England to look upon ** The Grand
Tour of Fmnee HTid the Giro of Italy " aa necessary
to complet-e the education of a gentlem.in. The
marriage of Charlee with Henrietta Maria of
France gave additional strength to this opinion ;
and aubsequently a desire that they should escjipe
from the influence of the Commonwealth, or pro-
vide for the future by paying court to Charles II. ,
induced hundreds of Englishmen to send their
children to the Continent, whose gnindlathers
would have thought it almost a ain to have done so«
Under this new system of education there grew
up a class of men known as " travelling tutors/'
many of whom possessed conaidemble literary
*c<iuirements, and a knowledge of men and things
which must have rendered their influence very
powerful, for gixwi or evil^ over the raw youngsters
~*-isted to their care. I shall, therefore, feel
indebted to any person who will point out
ies which I ought to jvdd to the following list
of tatont of the seventeenth century, who, I believe,
TTrivclled with their pupils ou the Continent of
Ascham, Hobbes, Thos. Murray, Robert
i, BramhalL, LaiiseU, 8 ir Leoline Jenkins,
Locke [l[h Drvdcn (?}, Richaut, Alexander Gill,
the Ablw.^ Montague, Sir William Alexander,
Gailhar^i, Birch, Gerbier, Raymond, Peacham,
WiiFvup, 8pon, Wheeler, Howell.
Ralph N. James.
Baron WAypKSFOKD, — ^^ Houghton
f prints enprraved after the most
ri-> 11^ tlh ^ II (tion of Her Imperitd
i:.i..pfcH 1 I:;; .ia, lately in the pot-
session of the Earl of Orford, at Houghton Hall in
Norfolk, 1788." One of the above prints represents
a middle-aged or elderly figure seated in a chair ;
according to the letter-preiis at bottom, he is stated
to be " Lord Chief Biuon Wandesford.*' The MtUti
Walpoliana;^ a description of the collection, 1752,
ran thus, '* No. 50, Lord Chief Baron Wandesford,
head of the Castle Comer family.^* I have looked
into a peerage, Burke's Landtd Gentry ^ Maunder,
&c., hut with no success. Can any of your corre-
spondents oblige me with information as to this
person, with any particular concerning him, or as
to where any should be Bought for, or likely to be
met with I Burke^s Landtd Gentry^ 1868, gives a
heading, " Comer of Fitzbead, county Someniet,''
but makers no mention of " Castle Conner." It
seems, also, there is Wynsford, Somersetshire ;
Wandesford, Northamptonshire j Wansford, York-
shire. CURIO.
PoRTUOUESB Coin. — A relative of mine hfis in
her possession a small coin^ apparently of brass,
rather larger, and somewhat lignter, than an Eag-
lifcih half-sovereign. On the obverse is a bust of a
man, the right side shown, laurel-crowned, and
with long hair, and the legend " joannbs v d g
PORT REX 1748.' This ia evidently John V,, the
spendthrift King of Portugtil, the builder of
Mafra, the Chapel pf St. John the Baptist, and
other works, and predecessor of the monarch
Joseph, to whom the celebrated Marquis of Fombal
was minister. On the reverse are the words, in
English, ''njxr shillings," in two lines right
across the coin, and in letters about one-eighth of
an incli long. The edge is rudely roughed rather
than milled. Can any of your readers tell me
what this coin is I
In the Mlmoirei du Marquu d^ Fombal there is
mention miide of a statement that John V.'s
treasury wa^s so depleted that some membeiB of
the royal fiimUy received their stipends in copper.
Were coins of this sort made specially for them 1
The English sovereign is, at the present day, a
legal tender, and, practically, the only gold coin in
use, in Portugal
Cyprlan a. G, Bridge, R.N.
Who wrote "The Bctttbrflt's Ball"? — I
have in my possession a well-preser^^ed copy of the
first edition of The BuUerp/^ Ball (Harris, St.
Patil's Churchyard, Jan. 1st, 1807). On the paper
cover is printed, '* Said to be written for the u?e
of his children. By Mr. Roacoe."
In tlie lUroUe^tioji^ of Mrs. SomrrvUle mention
is made by her of Miss Catharine Fanahawe as
the authoress of the vkatadt, {]) on the letter '* H,"
and, if I am not mistaken, of The Butttrfit^n BalL
Many years ago, I remember seeing it ascribed to
the pen of "the Princes Mary" (afterwards
Duchess of GloucestetL Gwi W£^ QEiTt«s^KfsA«^^
328
rOTES AND QUERIES.
of ** N, & Q." throw further light on the subject 1
My copy is what I fanc^ would be described os
qnartf* duodecimo. There is no letter- press. It
iijis fourteen rllu5?tnitions (with the words ubove
fcliem) and a title-page, nil copper-plat^?. TIil*
(xrver alone i» printed^ Jind has two woodcuts of a
b^ittK?rfly and a ^Tas.^hoppcn This elcgnnt little
work W!L*N the forerunner of scvend others. I h:i\"e
early copies of TJir Peacock at Home and Th€
IA<m't Mm<meTad4, both by "A Liidy." Were
th€9e Miss Fanshawe's, though I think they were
attributed to a Mrs. Dorset \ Z. Z.
SaBOPsniRE WiLiA — It is stated in Siina's
MmbUalf **' that there are no less thAn ^72 oouits
of f«oiilki» thixjughout this country where wills
are preieiTed.^ Will some one kindly give uie a
lijii of ike places where Shropshire wilU miiv be
fousd ? &,
*' Tam o' Shaktbr," ajxd "Soutbr Johnny.''—
Where are the origijml fi^^ures of them which were
exhibited in London in 1626 I S* N.
**Plurima oemma latet.*'— Where are these
Latin lino? (6^ H. iL 54) to be found ?
STiernxsr Jackson.
Ipoiksa QtJAMOCLiT.^In Hindu mytholo^,
this, [)eriiapa the most dellciitely beautiful of all
the Ipomctm^ i» sacred to Kamdj the i^od of love,
and I imagine that the first syllable of the specific
notuo of the plant is thus deriyed ; but I qau
inake notliing of the second, i> e. ocUL Can any
ooiveapoikdent oblige me bj exiihuiung: ? Not
poMeBsing a Hindustani dictionary, I do not know
(hiii^iig forj(otten) whether Komia is spelt with
<Juiirif, Karili* or Khya. S.
" Adulziemexts."— T find thia word in Bishop
Hall^fi Cmikmplation^, bk» xx. contem. 2, It is
not in Bailey nor in Kersey. What does it mean ?
Whence i* it derived t The passage stands thua : —
*'&o do they 1i&«te to proclaim Jehu, that they Bcarce
stay to tnatch un their garments, wbkli they Iiad, per-
h«ft, l«ft betitnil them for flpeed, had they not meaaCj
with theae rich abuUleruentflf to garaiiih m atato for their
new sovereign/' ^c.
Bi«]io[) Hall's wTitings are worthy of study, were
it only to observe his quaint language and meta-
photr?, and to find obsolete w^ords^— words and
niet;i])hor» iM?rh«pf* existing then only in East
AiJi^liii. Tljiis, in the eurne Otmteuj plat ion in
which we find this word "abulzienient," we have^
** Nothing is more dangerous than to be imped tn
a wicked family,** — where ** imped ' means either
"^fted" or inserted as a new feather into the
quiU of anuki one cut oft", the qudljitill remaining
♦ If Kania he spelt with thi* letter, a very oyri(MU
f oucstioii might be « tar ted— if not alrteady inoot«d — u to
ILo der]T»tk)n of the word. I fthould be glad to know
whether the subject has been inrestigated.
attaebed to the bii'd'i* wing-
1 ' I* we httve, **Oit:
t IS both in tin
iu iiiL' >;iiiiL' we havCj *'Fwi3 nm _
1 Imn it will want Iru^/i^ of terror." Hen? ** bu^ "
is used as in the old translation of Ps. xcL 5*
E. L. Blenkiks
Ay Old Son o»— Can any of yom
give me inforuiation whereby I mti%
of a Bong, of which the only words i
are: —
" Let lords and fine ladies look round ibem and see
If e'er one amaim them » blither than me ;
I «t at my wheeUe and ring through the day«
And
Sac twirl the round wbe^^li^, I w^ hciw things font,
And I think it a folly joum;
If we wndnu mak' ^\ e Ktna\
The world Avad run i-iu .x. . .._.._. . lud with Qi ^*S^
Somewhere occure the line —
** The epoke that 't at bottom oonijet i
As I am nnitious to obtain a copy of tl>e ftOft^
above alluded to, I am willing to paj sinj fwisoi
able price to get it. W. O. Craw.
Herald Office^ Dtimfriet.
Archbishop Tenibon. — Was he in ««rijr life
incumbent of Cottenham, CHmbri'l and^
if so, by whom was he iwe.'wuted iv cj \
Ahistotle on Daucjiws and PorTBT.— '
any of your learaed correspondent* give me
exact reference to the patisage in Aristotle
he classes dancing and poetry together 1
H. Bscraou
BoBERT Hkrrick^s vctstts '^ To Anthea'^ooi
mence as follows : — _
" Bid me to live, and 1 will lite
Thy Protcitant to be/'
What does he mean here by tbe word * ' Protosi
C. D.
Mary de Braose.^ — Will some f:<
contributor to *' N. & Q/' kindly infort
this mo«t puzzling lady wa^ the daugbt^^t of ? I J
have collected much concemink^ her from thl|
Recoid Office, but at pnesent a ajrrect elation
her parantnge is sm unknown tn me hs pc^iih'
and I am beginning to thinl: ' ' wm not I
De Braose by birth at aU, bia ausfl haH
married a De Brao^i^e durinti the mun^ betii
her marriage with Ralph de Cobhatu afid
subsequent one with Tliomafi de Brothertoiisj
appears to have been a great aciqairer of j
but to have poagiesBed none of her own i
I am led to the above conjecture from i
inquisitions on her death, whern it it> atiitcJ
Thomas de Brotberton, after C.
wife Alice, man-ied Maiy de
wife.'* At the end of the iii4ui8itiu0i« mi
NOTES AND QUERIES.
329
»
proncH y held hy }ur in dower are two documents,
iwJe on her death between
y ivnd MnrgJiret hi« wiie^
I lid Joan hia wife, dAii^hter
L rind Alice were diiugbters
I - . D. a K
TjkRiA, — Who was Elizabeth Fell ? She is mcn-
tioaed m Allibone's Dictionary aa author of poems^
London, 1771, 1771, 1777.
Can any of the contributors to " N. & Q." tell
me anjthm;,^ of Schom berg's letter to I/ord Shel-
bumc, publi^ed, I tbmk, Ln 1767 I What was its
sa^ect I
Where can I find any aocount of (he old Dukes
ofr *\kc.l WhAt crast, ajnifl,
and r i
W^hu weiif iliti LiiiLunis de Buchold, and where
can I ^U any account of them I Otto.
J. HfiRBBBT AHD L L,— I should be glad of in-
fcocuitioii respecting these artists of the seventeenth
m m0kt^9anih century. The former is said to have
«C)p^-*^'' ' "vdidlion ivortrait of Oliver Cromwell ;
jui'i is I. L, are found upon a BJnall por-
U&^t — .- ^ . .lie fiAme person.
HbKRT W, HKSTF&fiY.
^ q^mm Anne'a Q^U, aW.
** Mj^R&RAULTfL^^ — ^Mar 1 be allowed to enter a
ainst the use of this barbarous, unmeaning
on of the present French Government,
I hy euch respectable papera as the Daxhj
\ the Spcdatar^ and applied by the latter
I to Spain also ? ** Septennate/' though
II J weak, is in one point descriptive of the
lit, and so far is superior to *^ Mai^halate/'
I aarpffenes nothing more than a purely adveu-
i ct'T'-'""-*^ i"*"e connected with the President.
'As wdl * Government of the United
: r be called a " Generahite/* or
roment of London be denominated,
; lie worshipfiil company to which the
:>r i' r TJi i.e being belonged^ a *' Finh-
>r ' 6]i- Macleniaterate,*^ or any other
id ever lieen uaed in the same way
in ft p'f' ?»T ' "' accession to power?
U' i^'ning to it only the
M .. * ui<iQiU', charge do mar^cliaL'^
FiJRIST.
iLANP TA Tur dark: tower cajie."
^ lie meaning of this line in Edgar's
in Lear (Act iiL ac. iv. adjinem) f Is there
' legend to whir*h it refer? ? Mr, Browninj^
UtSodcd %
{ of th«t kind* J , U. D u u u l\^ .
Qly^w.
**HoGMAXT.'' — Having heard some discussion
lately as to the right spelling of this word (a
Uftage described in tae second volume of Hone's
Ercry-Daif JBooJt), some maintaining that the cor-
rect word is "Hugmany/^ I should be much
obliged by any information on the aubjecL
H. a B.
Authors Wanted. —
Avon : a Poem in three p&rta, Binmagham, pnated
by John BaakervlLIo, 175 S, f»n. 78,
The Uiitory of Aydt?r-Ali'khan. Nabob Bnhader ; or.
New Memoirs concerning the East indiea, with lliAtorij^
NoU» by M, M. D. L.'T, 2 vols, bro,, pp. 264, 198.
Loudun, J. Johnson, 72» 8t Paul's Churchyard, 1734.
A Short History of English Tr«ii8actionfi in the East
Indies. Cambridge, J. Ahnon, 1776,
Memoirs rf C. M. T&llevnuid de Perigord, Private and
Public J. nefl in Boudoirs os well as in CabineCs.
2 Fols. ' Jolm Murray, 1S()5. By the Author
of the IL^^ — ..y riutarch,
BicBARD HsMinsrG.
Mm. Lib. J Warriagtou.
Armorial. — ^EngraTed on an old son-dial, in a
garden in Hambledon, Hampshire, are the follow-
ing coats of arms : — (1) argent, a chevron engnuled
gules between mullets pierced vert ; (2) argent,
barry of four, vert. The house and property
belonged, in 1651, to Mr, Thoma.^ Symonds, who
sheltered King Charles IL for one night in it
(13th Oct.) on bin flight from Worcester. From
the Symonds family it passed through the Conduit,
Hyde, and Seymour (Lord Hugh) families, to the
present possesaors in 1798. The stin-dtal hfiA been
tliere aiooe that time. To what families do the
cools of antu belong ? E. L,
Hqjltrtf.
ABBBEVIATED PLACE NAMEB.
{o^ S. i 14G ; u. 93.)
Many nnmbera of " N. & Q." might be easily
fiUed with examples of this kind. A few of the
moat prominent instances within my own know-
lc5dge will serve to show how common the practice
is. In my own district of East Anglia, for
instance, we have Hunston for Hunstanton,
Hai^bro* for Happisburgh, and Mauby for Mautby
or MaJtby. The little villii^e of Blundexvtone, on
the borders of Suffolk, where David Copperfield
passed the earliest days of his childhood, is in-
variably pronounced Blunston. Alnesbome, also
in Sulfolk, is known as AJborne. Berwick Bernea,
in £s^x, is contracted into Bemes. In £eni, I
found Womcoswold for Wilmiogswold. In Wilt-
shire, the parish in which the famous Dnaidical
remains oi Ave bury (pmnounced Abury) are
situated was originally called Ambrosebiiry ; it is
now spelt Ambre^bury, and pronounce*! Amesbuiy,
I m*y m well tjike this opportunity of calling at-
tention to an absurd error, which I \i.Qiv<:ft^ wsnsa
330
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[!r*S. TtOcT.21,'
years ago in TIu Engliih Votmiies Belineaied^
where ^lotile coafuseB Sfconehenge with the Ies»-
known but far more extensive remains at Ambres*
bury ; they are many miles distant from each
other^ and Tcry different in character* I know few
recopiized books of Teference wherein a more
bountiful luirveat of blunders may be reaped than
the work above named. In the same county,
Liidgershall i» Lugfjerahall, and Heytcabury often
Hatehbury. In Gloucestershire, Cirencester is
Cicester, In Devonshire, Bathanipton is Bampton,
In ComwalJ, Ipostwithiel is commonly pronounced
as if written Lost- with- all. During my geological
rambles, I have found, in several ootinties^ Overton
on the maps, and Orton in the mouths of the
people ; indeed, most pe<lestriana must have ex-
perienced a ditficnlty in making the peasantry un-
derstand the names of pkcea when pronouncing
them as they are printed on the maps. I once
wanted to find Stanton St. John in Oxiordahire,
and the man to whom I applied declared em-
phatically that he had lived in the neighbourhood,
man and boy, for over fifty years, and had never
" *eerd tell o' the plaace/' However, after several
vigorous etforts on my part, a light dawned upon
him, and we eventually came to the conclusion
that the villiige in which be had spent all the days
of his life wa« the very place I was asking for ; but
I can tliink of no combmation of letters which will
convey any idea of his version of the name, I will
only add one more instance, which occurs in Cum-
berland, and is, perhaps, the most unaccountable
transformation of alJ^ — Burgh-on-the-Sands, where
the first Edward died, is invariably pronounced as
if it rymed or rhymed with " rough."
C. Faulke-Watlinq.
It is odd that this subject, mooted by me un-
Bucoeeifiillj a whole volume ago, sliould have be<en
taken up now. Encouniged by such a mark of
public favour, I beg to add to my fonuer note the
following list, which, for the most pjirtj I owe to
certain unknown correspondent*.
Agmonditham, Amenfaam (Bucks) ; Atfmton, Offerton
f Derbyihire) ; Bmkknoll,Binoll (Wilts) ; Bwwood, Brwd
Staffordshire) ; Cawardcn, Garden (Cheeblre) ; Eaxton,
Exton (Lanciishire) ; Foxcot^, Foscote (Bucks) ; Harin-
gvkj^ Horn^ey (Midcilofex) ; Kington^ Kineton (Warwick-
shiru) ; Mildenhall, Minall (Wilts) ; Nutahalling, ^uriling
(Haiit«); ItudcUff, Riitky (Buok«)^ Kutilipp RuAlip,
(Middkiex); Hawbridge worth, Saps worth ; ShmfteBburj,
Sbftftton (Wilts) ; ShalBtoae, Shawson (Bucks and Oxoq) ;
SilTeratone, SiUttio and Silaon, (Northanta) ; St Ann's
Hill, Tawii Hiil (WilU ) ; St. Botolph'» Claydon, Bottle
Claydon (Bucks); Totlaad, Tolland (Isle of Wight) ;
WaTerham* Wareham {Chegbire); Worksop, Woraop
(Notts) ; Wyrardisbury, Wrajabury (Buck»)«
A. J, M,
Tempk.
The following occur to m© m addition to those
mentioned by Mr, Munby. Where the ahbrevia-
tion is used both orally and in writing, I httre pn^
fixed an asterisk to the name : —
Alnwick, Annik (Northumberland) ; * Breeknoekp Bre-
con (Brecknock) ; * Brigbtbelmntore, Brigbton (8a
* Cbapel Allerton, Chapeltown (Yorkehire) : CbalTil
Cbiuiton (Suwex) ; •Crediton, Kirton (Deroi '
*Kiiig8ton-upon-HulI, Hull (coanty of itacif) :
ceston, Larmgton (Cornwall) ; * Moor AUerton, MoofT-
town [YorkahSro); Penrith, Perith (Cumberland); •St,
Botolph*8, Buttel* (SasBCx) ; Sclmeflton, Simpsoii {Su»ei),
Besides these, ought not Gloucester, Southwadk,
Southwell, Worcester, and other simiUkr towm, Co
come under the head of places whose names are
abbreviated in speaking ? T. M. Fai^low.
Chapel AllertoD^ Leeds.
AlTeat^m, Oleeton (GlouoesterBbire) ; MiTdknhallt
3Iinall (Wiltahire) ; Bagworthy, Bcdgery (Devon).
Brighton is only a short form for Bri^thdm*
stAine. Fahjl
Oxford.
Eaat GarstoD, Argafion (Berks) ; linkenholt, NigDOwl
(Hants).
Herbert Rakikjlpil
Affebridgo, Abridge (Essex) ; Erdington* Yco^oa
(W&rwicksbirc) ; Folkoatonet Foson : llappishii?s)h*
Hiiiaboro* (Norfolk): Heveningiiain, Henrngbam (Sif*
fr>!k); riaii9tow, Plshstow (Essex); Sohbull, SillU
(Warwickabinj} ; Southall, Sutbal ; Uttoxcter, I7s«ler
or Ucheter or tftseter (Staffordahire).
Jabiz.
AthenR?um Clul>»
I send the following from Shropshire : Eatllns;-
hope^ Eatchup ; Ponteabury, Ponsbuiy ; Ponf
ford, Ponaert ; Cardeston^ Carson; Condon er.
Oundor ; Pulverbach, Powderbitch (ihia is a oot-
niption rather than an abbreviation, but tif
similarity of the first two ayllables in each i»'
it doubtful which vaa the original ifj^M
Nobold, No but ; Eardiston, Yarson ; A"
Aberton. Also, AudJeni, Aulum (Chest
Browood, Brood ; Walsall, Wassle ; and ^> eimt^-
bury, Wedgebujy (Staffordshire). W. H.
Shrewsbury.
Towcestcr, Towstcr (Nortbant*^ ; Turweston, Ta»oo
(Bucks); Eversley, Imley (NortbantaJ : Hetnptoii, i
hnmlet of Beddington, Yum (Oxfordshire).
William Wnio*
Steeple Aston, Oxford.
To Mr. MuNBT*fi list of the above, the followiiui,
which I have picked up in my ramblos, may ht
added : —
AbcrgaTenny, Aborgenoy (ilonmoitlhshire) ; Beo*
fiington, Benson (Oxon) ; Bicester. Bf^ter fOtwil:
Brighttngsea, Hritttesea and Bn- ' Cliori
sey,Che8*ey (Surrey) J UaYentry. ! i' '
ahtre) ; Devjlstone, DiJston (Northu
Elstree (Middlesex and Herts); Uvertoo j
Long Orton (Hunta) ; Sjiwbridtr<'wortb,
(Eiscx); Towceiter/ Towiter " '
Wymondbam, Wyndbam <Not
Wrayabury (Middlesex) ; Yealhar ^
I Tonthire),
«
>&IL0€*.at,7«.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
331
To which nii\y he added the more popular
Glcjeter (Gloucester) ; Worst^r (Worctjster) ;
Proater (Frocester) ; Chofttre (Cholcestre), &c-
W. Phillips.
I beg to add a few sp^ectmens from Scotland : —
JiiiatrDtli«r^ Aniter; AuchtermtichU. Muchty; Ben-
iloelij, Betietbj ; BaHingr?, Binary ; BorrowatownneiB,
E(^ne«i; CtmbuinethftD, CumnGthim ; OulrtMs, Guro«s ;
Edinburgbt Embro ; Kilconquban Kineuchar; KU-
iD»muck^ Kiltie [ Kingoldrum, Klngotfarum ; Methven,
Mefian; St. Mttdoea, Simedores; St. Niniaa's, St.
Bingejif ; Yethotm, Yetam.
Chaklgs Eoosi%&
GrmmpiftD Lodge, Forest Hill, S.E.
Permit me to mention a few peculiarities in the
locd pronunciation of some Americiin pkce-names.
Cincinnati and Indianapolis are ge Derail j mis-
S[t)nounced Cincinnatta and Indianopolis. New
rleivns becomes a trisyllable, Newerleens. As for
Arkansaa* it is jet in doubt whether the proper
pronnnciation is as written, Ar-kan'-aas, or
Ark'-an-saw/ Several Congressea ago, the two
senators from that State held opposing "views on
this nu est ion, find the Vice-President gracefully
jw»lve*i the difficulty by alwaj^ recognizing one as
^ The Senator ffDm Ark'-an-saw»^ " and the other as
** The Senator from Ar-kan'-saji***
J. Beakdsji Matthews.
Utdt Club, New York.
[We ■hikll forward direct all farther commumcationi
^_«i this rol?ieci to A. J. 31.]
f The Capital of Kent (5"» S. ii. 289.)— Maid-
^ stone formerly was of little repute^. The as-sfzes
were formerly held at East Greenwich, Dart ford,
Milton next Graresend, Sevenoaks, Rocheater,
M&idjstone, and Canterbury ; but during the reign
of Bichard IL they were most frequently held at
'^ rhnry, and it waa one of the grievances of
; Cade and his followers (a.d. 1450), that they
» tnuel from the farthest part of tctst Kent
be mst to attend the sessions of the peace,
ling men some 5 days' journey,'' and they
**that for the better administration of
i the county should be divided into 2 parts."
■ " of Kent, vol ii. p, 384* After the Ke-
i the town of Maidstone became the aasise
and as the assizes ceased to be held at
fbiiry, Maidstone must be considered the
ttmnty tou^n for all civil puri>o8e8* Canterbury
WMB made by Edward IV. a county per se^ and is
' |mte exempt from all the jurisdiction of the
ounty of Kent Rochester also is a city. Can-
n eccieaisstical purposes may claim
id of Kent, and for all civil purposes
H^mnt' i< I he county town of Kent. I do not
thiit I can better dedne these two pLices.
I wero asked onli/ which is the capital of Kent,
Maidstone or Canterbury I I should answer Can-
terbury. Lewin says Canterbury has been the
capital of Kent from the time of the Romans.
Athford, ROBT. FURLET.
Extra Profuse BfiDicATioys (5^ S. i. 164.)—
D'lsraeli, in his (^imonties of LiUrature {§ Dedi-
cations), mentions other instances of authors who
** carried literary mendicity pretty high.**
I possess a volume that might also be cited as
a further example. It is a somewhat extraordinary
book, entitled " Kwinter Vivoa^ mc inter Moriuot,
Neither amongd the lAvintf^ nor amongst the
Jkad, Or an Improvement of the Sea^ upon th4
Nine. Nautical Verim in tk^ 107 PacUvi." By
Daniel Pell, Preacher of the Word. Lond., 1659,
8vo. It is tirst inscribed r —
'' To the Klght Honourable John Lord Bestorouffk,
one of biB Highn«iiei most Hoooorable Priry Council*
Otorgt Lord A/witi% OoYemoar of 8&>iland, and aole
CommiLndQr of atl the Forces in it. Otorot Lord Mtmnt-
^jptf* GenemI for the Narrovi-Stai ; ana Oeorff€ Atiiw,
Kijigbt» and General fo. the Northern-Seat. To the
Right Honourable CoromiMionen for the Navy, and
Admiral t J of Sufflandf Colonel Sdvfard Sutmony Col.
John CUrk, CoL JtoheH BmA, Esquires/' &c.
He acquaints "my Lords and Gentlemen^ of
the precedent of St. Luke, who dedicated his
Goflpel and Acts to " that honourable and noble
person, Theophilus " ; says that his ** worthless
yet painful piece " was written entirely at sea,
and gives them to ** undorstnnd how hard it was
to write." After a furtht^r dedication "to the
Right Worshipful Mr. Matthew Giley, Esq.,"
there follow three separate dedications to mem-
bers of the Hungarford famiiv, the author, who
writes from ** my study at my Liidy Hungarford's,
in Hungarford House, upon the Strand^" being,
apparently, a dependant upon it (1). "To the
much Honoured, Vertuous, and most worthy Lady,
the Lady Margjiret Hungarford, Wife to the Right
Worshipful Sr. Edward Hungarford, now de-
ceased'* ; (2). ''To the Right Worshioful Mr.
Henry Hungarford, Esquire, and one of the Mem*
bers of the Hononrabfe House of Parliament "^ ;
and (3) " To the Bight Worshipful Mr. GUes
Hungarford, Esquire."
An epistle then succeeds, addressed "To all
the honeat, Godly, sober, pious, and ReHgioos S^a-
Captains, whether within or without the Crommon*
wealth of England." We have next " The Epistle
to the Chris tian Readers, whether at Sea or on
Land." After one more address to the ** Reader,"
and a long "Proei^mium,'' the author strikes saU,
and falls to his subject. The volume itself is a
remarkable production, and is not altogether un-
worthy the attention of those who are seeking to
ameliorate their condition that ^'do btisiness in
great waters." J. E. Bailst.
Imoo Jones and Philip, Earl of Pembrokk
{^^ S. ii. 207.)— The Philip, Earl of Pembroke,
who made the MS. notes on a copy of Siaiuhxxv^*,
883
NOTES AND QUERIES,
tflF8,ILacT.2^7l*
Eesiored, by Jtdgn^Htii was most |Trobably the
ODe to whoiu an GxtmonlinaTy will, a copy of
wlikh I give below, ia attributed. I copied it from
A broadside bound up into a volume, with other
broflrfiside^, and with pJiiupMets, &c., which volume
WVL& in the library at We^t Dean House, Chichester,
a library tli&t wiia sold by auction last year : —
" The lasi tnll and tattxmetU of the Earl of PmJbroht.
" h Philip late Earl of Pembroke luid Montgomery,
now Knight for the County of Berka being (aa I am told)
very we&k in Body, but of pf^rfect Memory; for I n-
member tbiB time Five Years I guve the ca«tmg Voice
to diip*kh eld Ciinterbury : and this time Two years I
▼oled no Address tu be maiJe to my Master ; and thte
tlDM} Twelve Moneih eww bim brought to the Block ; yet
because Death doth threaten and atare upoo me (who
itill bAve obeyed all those that thrcjitened mc) t now
make mj la^t Willi and Teatament.
" Tmprimig» For mv Soal, I confeu I have heard very
much of Soula, but what they are, or whom they are for,
Ood knows, I know not; thej tell me now of another
World, where 1 never wM. nor do I know one foot of the
way thither. While the King itood I was of his Beligion,
made my 3 an wear a Cuisock, And thought to make bim
a Bijjhop ; then came the Scots^ and made me a Pres-
byteriou ; and since Cromwell entered I have been an
IndependenL These (I believe) are the Kingdom's Three
Bitatee, and if any of these can save a Sv>u]. I mmj cUim
one ; therefore if my Executore do find 1 have a eoul, I
give it to him^ that gave it to me.
" Item, I give my Body, for I cunnot keep it: you see
the Chirurgeou u tearing oflT my PJeah; therefore bnry
me (I have Church Landa enough) but do not lay me in
the Church Porch ^ for 1 was a Lord, and would not be
buried where Colooel Pride was born-
" Item, my Will is that I have no Monument, for then
I mint have Epitaphs and Verse<ijr but all my Life long
I have had too much of them.
** Item, I give my Dog* (the best Cnra that Man laid
Leg o*re) to be divided among the C!ouacii of Btate.
Mjtoy a ^ir I>uy have I followed my Doi^e, aod followed
the State both Night and Day; went whitUer they sent
me, sat where they bid me, aometimea with Lords, \ome-
timcs with Commons, and now can neither go nor sit;
yet whatever becomes of me, let my ptior Dogi not want
their AUowaoce, nor come within the Ordinance of One
Meal a Week.
"Item, I give Two of my beet Saddle Horaes to the
Earl of Denbigh, for I fear ere long his own Lej^ will
fail him ; but the talloAt and Btrongest in all my Stables
I give to the Academy, a a a Yault'mj?- Horse for tall
Lovers of Vertue. All my other Horaes, I jrive to my
Lord Fairfax, that when Cromwell and the States take
a way hia Cdmmiaaion, be may have some Horse to com-
mand.
" I^em, I give my Hawks to the Earl of Carnorfon ;
hii Father woa Master of the Hawks to the King, and he
luw Wit so like hta Father, tli*t I begg'd his Wardship,
lest he in time should do eo by me.
"Item, 1 give all my Deer to the Earl of Salisbury,
who I know will preserve them, because be denied the
King a Book out of his own Parks.
*• Item, I Kfv* my Chapbitna to the Earl of Stamford^
ill regfii
Earl <
beget iL!
" Item, 1
I give him, r
'Item, To ni
er used to have any bat his 8oa the
':ing both Spiritual and Carnal, may
: to the Lord Say, which Legacy
tvill bestow it on the Poor.
' oiifiteatcs (my Sister and my Wife) I
now ^ve leave to enjof their Eatatea; but mv own
Estate t give to my Eldest Son, char^dng bim on mf
Blesding to follow the Advice of MtobMl Oldsworth ; fe
though I have had 30,0o0/. petr uufkimL, y«t I die not I
Debt above 80,0001.
" Item, Because I threatened Sir Henry Mtldinvr. bu
did not beat him, I give Fifty Pounda to the Footn
that Cudgeld him.
"Item, my Wdl is, thai the said Sir Harry, shall nolj
meddle with ray Jewels; I knew him when he i
the Duke of Buclcingham, and aince how be bandT
Crown Jewels ; for both which Reasons, I do no*
him the Knave of ^' '-
" Item, To ToT e Pate I broke heretofai
ftt a Ma&que) 1 j^i. . liin^. I intended him mm
but all that have &een hui History of the Pariia
think Five Shilliuga too much.
** Item, To the Auihar of the Libel against Ladiea (
Kewa from the E3cchaT4ge) I give Zd. for inve
more obsoeoe way of scribbling than the Wo
knew ; but aimee lie throwa what 'a rotten and :
divert Xamea of Unblemiahed Honour, I leave hu 1
mcnt to the Footman that paid Sir Harry MUdo ,
Arrears, to teach him the differtrnce betwixt Wii ^id
Dirt, and to know Ladies that are Noble and Chftet, fr^m
downright Roundheada.
" Item, I give back lo the AMoai% of Divini^ tfadr
Classical, Proviiwsial, Oongwiitional, Kational, whack
words I have kept at my own Cliarge above Seven YmOt
but plainly find they *I never come to good.
*' Item, As I restore other Men's worAi. to 1 gift
Lieutenant General Cromwell one word of fl^ae, Itittnie
hitherto he never kept his own*
'' Item, to all the Citiaens of London, to
tcrians, as well as Cavaliers, I give advice to i
Throftti, for by order of the States, the tjarrij-fi ^
Whitehall have all got Ponyazdi, and for New la^ttta
bought Dark Lanthoms.
"Item, I give all my Speeches to these 1'
lowitig : vi«. That Speech which I made i
Defence when the Seven Lords were nr •
TreasoQ, I give to Sergeant Wild, that 1
know whit is Treason, and what is not.
I made Extempore to the Oxford Scbolur^, 1
Earl of Mmnchester, Speaker pro tempore l'^
of Peeri, before it'i Reformation, and Cbait
tempore of Cambridge Univeraity, since ite K
But my Speech at my Election (wh!f*h ir :
without an Oath) I give to tl
ment, becauee no Oath hai ]
ray other Speechea (of what „. . ._ _ , ^
Academy, to help Sir Balthaaare An of Weij bpoftkug.
** Itemji I give up the Ghoet.
** Concordat cum Originali*
" Nathaniel Brent"
H, A. St, J, It
Devoxshibis SATiiro (V^ S. 11. 12ini — ** Thut 'f
extra, as the old iromazi ^n r
This ancient note, oonii ^^
Frtiser some eighteen ye
have been sattflfactorily i :
drift of the sairing may be arru'cii :.
difficulty. The name of Eicrter or
pronounced ** Extra" by T
Devon ; at all events in
districts of the county. Vv v
therefore, that the old lady rt i
her way, for the tirst time in hei ..ir, tu inn . luu.^j
town^ and having reached tht grand old chait:h i
ff»8.IL0cT.24.71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
8d8
I
Krrinn n"*rpJitnn V wliuh B^jeoied a verj" cathedral
he admiringly exclaimed
iiduag, for the momeut,
Ihot her ' m end, onlj to findj
»lasl tLiiL riJ - ijr eight miles ^^extni^'
to lrad|{e. T* Htraiiss, F.S.A.
"WiTAT ts A PotrSTD!" (5*>> S. ii. 248.)— It is
^'i^nt'nJlv iin.h r^ion^l fljrit iiu diillcultv fiurrouiida
aow, A pound is a
sins of ffolJ 22 carats
fioe, »nd thm wna adopt eti by the Ballion Report
iBiAde to the House of Commons by a special
|. Committee. Wiluam Blood.
••BoirK WITH TBR MtKi ; OR, UBASONS FOR
Sdppebbsing the Mctg-Hocse," &c. (f»*** B. il
^287,) — This refers, perhaps, to the Mug-Hou3e
I Club in Sftlisbmy Court, for pullinj; down which
a boys were hjinged. The amj^-iiou«rs of Lon-
mid WeBtminBter are fully «nd «rau^mgly
fdwcribed hj the author of A Jotirntij tkrovi)h
f/land in 1724, and his account of them is
k extracted in ray Popuhir Mittic ofi}\€ Oldvn Timt,
lil fii4. Perhaps the following part of it may
for W. E. A. A. :—
* The mug-hooje clubij in Long Acre, Che«p!idc, &c.,
U«menjr Uwyera, and tradesmen. U3«<I to meet
a, MMom under a hundred. Thej hud &
> late in an arm-chair some steps higher
Pc«t of the company, to Jceefj tUo whole room
or. A harp played all the time at the lower end
'— ^' 'tTid, every now and then, one or other of
0, and entertained the rait with a loag,
/, Bomo were good masten. Here wna
hut ale^ and every genlleman had hia
I.S Liicli he chalked on the tahle where he
.. ..„ brought in; and everyone retired lu he
pleased, aa from a cafiec hoaee.
•• The rwm»s were always io direrted with »ngs. and
drift ^ 'ine table to another, to one aaother't
h^l ^re wa6 no room for on} thinji; that could
mr ' nation/*
On the acce3i*ion of George L, some of tiie
I tiipiiilK-'rH inirrxlimHl iM>lith\al songs, Thev wcro
:^, ready on all oc-
,1 1 1'ssion of mobs on the
vitc side. Many an encounter they had, and
were the riot?t» till at last the clubs w^ere
own by Act of Parliament. A collection of
^hon*e «M>ng3 Wiu jjrinted in the early pivrt of
ry, from which a few were transferred
• u. Wat. Chappell*
TftB Err. Tuomas Gabd ih^ 8. ii. 249.)— The
iou» Ifticttf/' whose titltjs T. K. wishes to
aro probably coat4uned tu the following
**Ftaiia ^fTVfnidif ; or, Difrjuisilions concerning The
Aati^Mily Mid Beieatilio finJ of the great Fyratntd of
Giaik «r aii^*til Memphis, In %ypt, And of the ftnt
^' ' t of Linoftr Mettiam. Ako^ & Coiii|iiate Deacrip-
tion of Solomon*? Teraplis, of which tLo Trac Dimendoni
. . . - [&c.] ^' foundry
CcmtroTcrtcd '\ .now tjt
Symmetries ^k^tu^u.x.i^... . . . l^^v. ^., w«c Kev,
Thomas Gabb :—
* How rcTenend in the face of this tall pile,
^Hiose . . . [kc.y
Congreve*ii Mtmrn* Br.
R«tford : nritiied by W. Peart ; sold by Mr. l^lor,
o9> High Holbom; . . * [Itc.J, vid the ootmtrj ^ook-
nellerd. 1806,"
Pp. 284 and 8, at the end, ^ve the *'JJA
of bubacribera." The Ihike of Norfolk is dow»
for ^^ 4 Fine Copies.'' The book is dedicated to
Hie Grace in an " epistle ** dated *' WorkBop,
November 3(t, 1805." Sotxie oopies have not the
imprint '* lietford, 1806,^ but London, published
by the aforesaid Mr. Taylor, ^vithout any date.
Sparks Hkkdeksok Williams.
He is described as of ** Ketford, Kotts," in the
BiogTO^hical Dict^ 1610, and the only work men-
tioned is hiB FinU Pijramidis, publitshed in 180G.
When did he die i Ulphar Hamst.
Jonn Hoofer, Bishop of Gloucester (5**»
S. ii. 229.) — There arc descendants of hLi now
livin$^. His Bible is still fuiid to be a treasured
family relic in the possession of Dr. WiUiam
Hooper, of Cheltenham* W. F. P.
WoottonT
Sir Francis Swrrr (5*»» S. ii. 268.)— The sou of
my lineal ancestor. Sir Robert Swift, was created
by James 1. Viscxmnt Carlingford. Dying with-
out issue nude— his daaghter or sister (I have not
our pedigree at hand) nad marned the Earl of
Dumfries, the ancestor of the present Marquiu
of Bute— the viscountcy fell into abeyance till as-
sumed de jitre by Godwin Swift, the grandfather
of the young inheritor of the family estates, ex-
cepting that only in Herefoidshire, which, more
than two hundred years aj^^, had been entailed on
the second branch of our family, and posae^^ed by
Sir Edward fciwift, who is chronicled among the
county magnates at some especial asaemSlajje.
How it was redu<^ by the extreme loyalty of the
reverend Tk^mau Swift, and requited by the
sensual and eelHsb heir of the Martyr-King, need
not recapitulation.
The proximity of date and the eomitial identity
lead me to ,si?o-^+>t *SSir Francis" being a mis-
nomer of " rd Swift." Assuredly the
pi^nomen " appeal's in no part of our
genealogy ; neither did 1 ever hear it mentioned
among us. About fifty years ago a Sir Somebody
Swift wa.<? Sheriff of London. He had been a ahoe-
maker, And, for aught I know, was ehristeaed
"Fiancis." Be that as it may, the #uf^ tiltm
cTepidam wis not of oar fauilly.
While on this subject, X btg a smaT'
whertin to correct my smn kaSbf uul
334
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[S'* a IL Oct. 24, 74
lapmi9 txdami (6** S. ii» 33),— the aid presented by
mj ancestor having been three knndral (not
wyuBand) broad pieces to bis sovereign ; and a
lapmu preliy for ^* residence " read ruidu4.
Edmund Lsnthall Swtftb.
A Singular Lease (5^^* S. ii. 24Q.)— There is
nothing unuaual in a lease being granted to one
man for the life of aoothcrj jf>wr auter v^U, m it is
called. The eider for the produetion of the chil-
dren ma prohably made under the provisioos of
statute 6 Ann. c, 16. It is therein enacted that
any person, having a daim in expectancy upon
the determination of an estate pur auter i^ may,
upon affidavit that he has cause to believe that
cestui qtit vie (i, e. the person for whose life the
estate was granted) is dead, or that his deiith is
conceided, obtain an order from the Lord Chan-
cellor for the production of such cestui qtu vie. If
the order ia not complied with, then cestui que vie
is to be taken to be dead. Middle Templar.
Bradford.
This is a curious heading to an inquiry about
an ordinary eeclesietsiieal hoMS for three live^^ of
which there were thowsands by bishops and pre-
bendaries until recent legislation. W, G,
JoHEL DE ToTNBS (5**' S. iL 268.)— The Exon
Domesday contains numerous entries regarding
the poeseasions of this extensive Devon landowner.
He was neither a Nornmn nor a Saxon* but a
Breton, as his name indicates. Johel, Hoel, Jud*
hael, or Judicael, variations , apparently, of the
same word, was a common Christian name among
the early Breton princes, one of whom is said to
have founded the first Cathedral of Dal, in honour
of St. Samson, its patron saint, Johel of Totnes,
styled **son of Alwred," founded the Priory of
Barnstaple, and doubtless built the cjistle there.
He became a " religieux " in his own priory, and
is said to have bestowed on it a church built out-
aide of the castle (^*en dehors de son chateau").
Henry I. confinued this foundation, sty ling the
founder '' venerabilis memorie Johel." The county
histories of Devon will, probably, show some ac-
count of his descendants and the destination of
his posaeflaionn, Anglo- Sckktus.
English Translations (6'* S. ii. 287.)— Arch-
bishop Trench says there is an Engli.sli translation
of Plutarch's Afora^wi by Philemon Holland, pub*
UBhed in 1603, and reprinted in 1657 (vide IHu-
tarc\ hit Life, his Furalld Livat^ and kin MoraU,
Five Lectures, by Richard Chenevix Trench, D.B.^
second edition, 1874, pp. 92 and 93), Yllut.
The Naii&ncd Encydop<rdia states that a trans-
lation of Bamabas's EpistU was printed by Arch-
bishop Wake. This is, doubtless, in his English
Versian of the Oennine Epistles of the Apo$tolieal
J^ai^Sj puhhahed in 16d3. F. A. Edwards,
Epictetue^ translated by Elizabeth Oiuter« 2 rok,
8vo., 1807. Jamblichus, Life of Pytha^orm^ traos-
kted by Thomas Taylor, 8vo,, 1818.
K. P. D. E.
Bedell Family (6*** S. iu 8.)— Possibly
HowAKD may be bterested in the following
tmcts taken from the jjarish roister of WooUaa}
Beds :—
** Baptisms.
166$. Oct. 2. AIu BedelU daughter of Thoaa. Bed^lk.
H Feb. 10. Thoaa. Bedells.
1571. July 20. Uenrie Bedellt.
1572. Oct^*ber 2. Frances B«deUa.
1575. June 16. Susan Bedells.
1576. April 7. Judeth BedelU.
„ March 11. Alii Bedelli.
1577. March 7. WilUam BodcUa.
1579. April 20. Mrit Bodies.
„ March 2, Nataanael Bedles.
1580. Aug. 21. Cbaritio Bodell
I58L Kov. 3. Heary son of H«nry BedeBii ,
„ Not. 10. Martha, daughter of Thomaa BMti$r
15S2. March 31. Thoas., son of Henrie Bedelli,
1585. Jan. 25. Francit, ion of Henrie Bedella.
1593. Not. 25. Marie Bedolk. .
1594. October 20. Wvuefred Bedells. I
1595. Not. 30, Nlcholm, son of Thomw BedeUi.
1597. Augt. 20. Susan, daughter otG^rge Bedllft
1599. Feb. 15. Susamia, daughter of George BlddeDt
1603. Sept. 6. Anne, daughter of Thomai Beadlei^
"Marrietge*
1603. June 6. Humphrey Totna and Mfttia Beadalf.
'* Buriali.
1532. Maj 30. NatbaDiel Beddles.
1586. Feb. 1* Franotfi, ion of Henrie Bedella*
158S. Dec. 3. Susan Bedell, wife of Henri« Bedelli*
1594. Augt. 30. Marie Bedells.
1595. March 10. Henrie Bedella
15m June 23. Jane BedJelti.
1602. January 25. Anne, daughter of Thomas BedeH*
The name was spelt in a variety of T -* •
Bedell, Bedells, Beadles, Bedles, Ben
Beddles, ns I have given it above,
Henry Bcdelk, of Wootton, Gentleman
March, 1595, was proved in London
1597. He names his brothers, Mathew, .
and William, and bis late brother. Thou
wife, Jane ; and sons, William, Thomas, Hc
and George. All then under age. His daughttf%^
Susan, Alice, Mary, and Charitie, Y. 8, M.
" ToFSY-TURVT " (5*^ S. 11, 2S8.)— The foQowuji
occurs in Spenser's Fturie Queene^ B. v^ f,
a. xlii. :—
"At last tbej have all overthrown to grouiid
Quite topside turrej.'*
Wjf. PssTQuxr* I
Torquay.
SnfBoL IN STAiifED Glass (fi*** S. iL
The human face with ** lolling tongue*' is i
commonly met with as a device in bonei^
bell- founders' stamps, fStc. ; and I doobt its]
any particular symbolical meaning,
^
«b
L IL Oct. 24, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
*
Ljatlier as simply an outcome of tbe m«diaBTal lave
|of the grotesque. J« T. F.
H*tflo)d BiUJ, DarhMn.
" Thk Poet": Tkknyson {5"» S. iL 28a)— The
most obvious uieaning of this paaaage would seem
to he the tnieat, viz., that the poet is gifted with
the hi^^^i*'^^ "n^ljties, or jjowera, of hate, acorn, love.
Ku ; liuroughly hates and acorns all that
is e^ -c ; no one more thorou^hlj loves all
that IS loveworthy. So, in less pi}^tiail but kindred
^^^aae, w© aaj, ** A Toiy of the Tories/* &c.
■^^ R B. PtrnTON.
^^^niFPuniooFB (5^ S. ii, 249) seems to explain
^^^Br, ** the earls' court " (D. grdvcn-hnf). ConL
^^^Rrciiend (Kent and Cornwall) ; Gravensteen,
Tondcm (Denmark) ; Gravenhagen, Lippo (Ger-
many) ; S'Gmvenwezel^ Anvera (Belgium) ; S^Gra-
veQpoMer, Zeeland (Neth.) : S'Gravezande, S'Gra-
venLige, SXimvendeel (S. Holland).
R, S. Chakxock.
Gruy'i Inn.
American; Reprints {5*^ S. ii. 223.)-'It is all
very well for Mr. MacCabe to slip in a side slap
at the American publlsbers, by whom he has pro-
bably auifered, but it must not be forgotten that
everything Auierican considered worth reprinting
h forthwith reprinted in England ; for example,
Peter Parley's books, and UncU Toms Cahin^ and
all the ao-caUed comic things we have had for some
I years imst. See AUibone's IHdiouary, under
r*' Goodrich^' and *^S to we," OLpriAE Hamst.
"F. BoNXEFOT*' (4^ a xiL 110.)— Evidently
» t for F. Bartolozzi, R.A., the only engraver
I to the full honours of the Royal Academy
^44. -j.^ae recently, and who did engrave the por-
fmit of the Hon, ^li^ Bingham, alluded to, in
1788. L. a H,
TttiunnT OP Vjikitb : Jeremiah Horrox (5"»
8. iL 3t)6, 2740— A copy of the epitoiph erected
in St. Michael-a Church, Toxteth Park, near
Livdpool, by Mr. Holdcn, is given on page 78 of
WhaUon's Mtmair^ from which it is clear that
there i» ft mistake, as Mr. Mayer remarks, in the
copy of the epitaph as transcribed by M. C. J.^
BootU having been printed for HooU. This is
not the only memorial existing of this remarkable
vouDg astronomer, for his name and discoveries
tiave ako been commemorated in the church of
St* Wchael, at Hoole-, where he officiated as curate
from the spring of 1039 to his death in January,
i(iil, by tne erection of a chapel dedicated to his
memotfj in which thirty sittinga are appropriated
fur the u»e of the poor for ever. A memorial
niiKlav is placed in the chapel ; also a mural
tftblet^ with a long hut appropriate epitaph. It
Bmy he remarked Lcie that {lennisaion has Litely
^ibtl^ed from the Dmn. of WeBtmioater for
Ui
the erection of a memorial tablet in Westminster
Abbey to the memory of Horrox, as the first
observer of a transit of Venu.4 over the Sun's diac«
The necessary funds have been provided by a few
admirers of his astronomical genius-
Edwin Dcsrimr,
Kenwyn, Kidbrooke, S.E.
"God bless the mark'' (5* S. ii. 169, 21&.)—
The remark (a« given by Iota) of the Cambridge
editors on this expression is not strictly correct.
In three of the five instances of it, which occur in
Shakspeare, the word to which it is ap|>ended is
neither ** profane '* nor " vulgar " : —
'* I saw the ^eovnd^ I nw it with mine eyos^
God iave the mark ! " *
Borneo and Julut, Act iH ao. St, I. 52.
"And talk so like a waiting-gen tie womiui
Otgunt and drumt and wmndt, God save the mark \ "
Itt fftnrjf /r„ Act i. K. 3, 1. 57.
''And I, Ood bleu the mark f hii Moonhip*i tmcitnt,^
Otfullo, Act i »c. 1, L 33.
Id the passage from The Two GenUemen of Verona
the wortl La vulgar ; in that from the Merchunt of
Venice it is profane. These five words, however,
have one point in common, i. e. they express souie-
thing, which the speikker wishes to be preserved
from, viz., wound, guns, drums, and wounds, being
an ancient instead of a lieutenant, and the devil.
Of the highly indecorous word used by Launce in
The Two' Gentlemen of Verona^ I will only say
it expresses something from which everj" one
would wish to be preserved, at least when in polite
society, as was the case with Launce's dog.
With respect to lago, it may be remarked that
he was past praying for : he was already an an-
cient, not a lieutenant ; therefore his "God save
the mark ! " is used carelessly for " Would that
God had saved me from it ! "
The conclusion I come to from a comparison of
these five passages is> that our ancestors conceived
that by mentioning a ctdamiiy they rendered them-
selves liable to a visitation of it, and, therefore,
tried to avert it by some pious ejacuhition. ** God
save the mark ! " will, then, be equivalent to the
quod abominor of the Koman8.t Then arises the
question how this meaning am be extracted from
the expression " God save the mark ! " On this
point I venture to throw out a suggestion, in
which, however, I have no great confidence.
May it not be that, during the visitations of the
plague, our ancestore were in the habit of saying
** God save us from the mark ! " meaning thereby
the mark of the cross J on the door, which Indicated
* Mr. Staunton, io ft note on thii pAMftge, iays : " In
the quarto, 15^7, hisiead of * God mve the mark ! ' we
Lave ' God suvc thf" Mimple ! ' an expresuon eiiually
obscure," I do tiut, howcTcr, find this reading dt«d in
the Cambridge edition.
f It. to cAe toloa %i CUJo,
I Properly atJied**Uod'fttnixW*
336
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5»*S, lLOcT.24,Tt
that the house wsa infected ; that thence, io ooiiiBe
of time, the expression came to meiui God aaT© ns
from any evil, whatever evil it might be the speaker
was gpenking of ; also that in time ^^ God s&ve me
from the mark ! ** waj* corrupted into ** God save
the mark 1"? Also " God save the sample'" muy
mean Ckni save me from being an example in this
reapect, t» c in suH'ering from wounds.
Ab we ftod Hve in^Umces of this phrase in Shak-
spcftre, we may suppose that at least fifty are to be
found in the writings of hia contemporaries. Now
the only way of arriving at the meaniog of any doubt-
ful word or phrase is to compare as many paasagea
iifl possible in which it occurs ; therefore, if the
reiiderB of " N. & Q." who come across thb phrase
in any writers of that age, will send such passages
to "N. & Q.,-' it will doubtless soon appear whether
my explanation be right or wrong, and^ if it be
found to be wrong, a more satisfactory one will
present itselfi F. J. V,
** Like to thk d ah ask hose you see,*' &c. (5***
S» ii. 227,296.) — Mr. Chappell informs us that the
lines commencing thus are by Francis Quarles.
In every collection in which I have met with
the»e lines, tbey nre attributed to Simon Wastell.
In Blaokay's A Thousand and One Gems of
Poetry they are siiid to be from the Microbiblia^
1623. Mn. Chappkll^s version seemii to be in-
correct in making " flowers'* and "shades" plural.
The latter is obviously wrongs being supposed to
rhyme with " had." Who was Wiistell ? This is
the onlv mention I can find of him. J. J,
Sheffield.
[3«7er&I correepondenU write to tlie «ain« effect «
J. J. They add that the poem maj bo found in The
lilmtraUd Bot>l of EnglUh Songs froin the Sijrtunth id
C/U NineltenCh Century. Fourth edition. Loadon^ H.
Inptun k Co. [no djite]; and 4 ffomfhold Book of
Mfiffluh Poetry (MMmiiUan). leleot^d and arranged by
I Archbiahop Trench. S^-e •* X. k. Q.," ii''^ «. lii. 3&f).
k4£d, wh«r« the poem U attributed to John PliiiJipott.
IJhL E. CoBUAii: Bakwkr sayfi that the diatich cited by
I A. F. (p. 227} 14 one of the many imitatiouB of a poem
CaUed Lif€ by Hetiry Kinj^, 6 i shop of Chichester (1591*
1610), commenetng :—
" Like to the falling of a star.
Or aa the flights of eagles are/* ke.\
Pbcullak Treatment of Some Words in
FABSiNa PROM One Language to Anotiter (5*'*
S. i. 247 ; il IKJ, 197.)— The following remarks,
I cooipiled from the lat« Rev. Dr. Baouister s
\Qlo»sary of Comhh A^amca, will serve to show
I that the derivation of some of the " Corniiib "
'"Words mentioned by iln, Edgar MacCullocu is
by no nieanfl settled : —
" Penjsanc«, holy (««rw) headland" (Dr. BanDiater);
, " The saint*s head " (Carew, 161)2) ; *'That this is
I the right name appears from the amis of the town,
which are St. John Baptist's head in a cbarj^er''
(Bishop Gibsons Camdin) ; " Head of the Belfa,
&r Sacred («i«i») district" (Rev w r...Ti
of the Bay (mns);^ (Tonkin,
Price » ei^hteLnth contury) ; '
(Whittaker, 18tU) ; ''Head -
den); **Heail of tlie Channri ,
eighteenth century).
*' ISIoiisehole, horn a large carem ncrrr" fBi; bnp
Stattbrd); "Maid^s {mm) River (^
Edmonds) ; '* Maid's (tnos) or she-
(/wi^, or river {luitji}" (Dr. Bannister) ;
of the Cuttle-fifih (mousheol)^* (Mr. J. C*
" Pen iiy-cam©-c| nick, head of the Creek: <ju't(t~
Valley (cHm:);' (Mr, J. Bellows) ; " Of th«
tracted {ctichf) valley or dingle'* (Mr* Daviet* G9
bert) ; or of the cuckoo (coj^,, Gaelic /^lach) '
(Dn Bannister).
I may add that Peony-oomeH|aick, near Plyinoutl
is not, iia Ma, MacC^olloch supposea, on th
eastern border of Cornwall, but near the WMten
border of Bevonihire, and is at the bead '
•* Stooehouse Pool," which separates Plymontl
and Stonehouse from Devonport. It m very ditf
cult to suppose that a ferry ever existed, or
have been needed, there. Prior to I66t>, tiwtov
now known as Fidmouth bore the name of Pen&ft
come-quick. The internal shell of the cutilcnE
w*a8 always called " musahel shtU " in East Ca
wall in my boyhood. Though a nativt^ of
county and aiw«yg familiar with it, I r.«
the name of Wmrtj-me-out applied to i
in Cornwall Dr. Bannister's Gloxnanj c ih
no such name. WiL Pkngkli
Torquiiy,
^cre d-oTfft scorns to me a curious instrance oC ft
change of words. Originally made i ^^ ' V "^
called ** burnt BUjjar/* it was imp
and translated to ** sucre briik^"
England, it wjis called " barley ^
sound of '' brulc^"; then again impL..^ a .> i ..^
it was translated to ** sucre d'orge.'^
H. A, &r. J. M.
Buntan'b Imitators (5*^ S, ii, 148, 2ia>-I
have the Third Part of Tht FiJu: ' " -^
published by Meijurs. Henry Mozl.
1829, "wherein are set wrih." a? tue riijt-|flv^^ ^
states, —
" Tbo flcTeral di^fficulties and dan^m he met witK,*nd
the many Victories he obt^iined over tbd WoHdi ll*
FlciKj and tlie Devil : to^jnthev with bU hsppy lOftit
at the cebfltial city. By John Booyon,^'
The work contains a prose Preface «tgnil
'\L B.,'' and a poetical address to '*his«ortliy
friend^ the author,'' by ** B. D." ; also sora^ \um
'* humbly recommended to the reader (written
upon the perusal of the book),'' by " L. C/'
A, R
Croeswylao, Ofwdstry.
BiTRNlWO ^, BrRTiXG (o*** ^>. M, ^6.)— Thfl
int<*rested in cremation will find a great deal '
Igect, both lustorical and descfiptiYe, in
i JtU^A of Fuuiral, Aneiemt and Modttn^
led 1*7 Lorraln, London, 1683, 8vo, See
tery interesting, though brief, Bihliography
Tn-ifV,>.. in Bulletin No. 30 of the Boston
Gaston de BEit^SYALi
SnfisTKii (b^ S. I 268, 314, 418 ; il 18»
'^ ' vkT M. H. R has inuch to learn, ao far
hie «ci^nco of hhizon'' is conceraod.
Dn iJone is a mark of iUegitimaey, why
Snfirv absent fmin tlie coat of the Duke
' i I should )>e -liid if M. H, E.
iiah me with any anthrutic example of u
Rnms Bo rlitn^oncod in En;j^knd, save in
e of the illegitimate descendant's of royalty.
fie fonrteentli century ixt lexst the baton did
note illegitim.'icy. The fact is that, strictly
ig, there ia no niaik of baflturdy in English
ry. These so-cailed marks are simply dif-
f ; and notwithstanding M. H. R/s correc-
iia> Jacksox, it Is certain that the ngurd
tcf» fv*?ifTiied to an illegitimate son during
and ieventeenth centnriea waa a
% of which there ore seveial ex-
in I ho V'isitation Books.
the preiient day, corttm ^«eial differences
^ in the nature of what the old heraldic
\ odled " abatements '') are aaaigned to Jin
»««*^ ^ n, when the name and an?ij? of the
r are taken ; and these diUbrenc^s
, (»vpr l»r *»livf.rv:Ation, Such diffcF-
mui the shield of a
use he does not bear
mt, and has not been directed to bear the
>f kia reput<?d father. B. G, S.
Aitumr (5«» S. IL 148, 213.)— J. A.
best account of By hind Abbey in
inge'8 VctU of Mowhray^ publiahed at
1B5!). Some information on the same
alBO contfiined in Jeffer:5on's Mktmy of
ibltelied at TMrsk in l?2l.
CiiARLKs A. Fedkrer.
DKMAB (b*^ S. i. jmttvm ; \\. 37, 56,
practice of enipnasr^ing n passage
of inverted cuinnms prevailed even
hui I ?ut>po«ed. In Drant^a free version
t% tbiri ^tire of the Second Book I
iifli4« DO ■aliie. to raf » KM>tli,
■• lU to ijoordo thy goodei^
iil liif fttM Wft fttlMfe,
Vtfian itevitJdite brntow Uuna os
■I anuuntc pllfenii^v thocfe/'
•oesttim^ qaatmina are veaJly bfoken
Up I
couplets, the „ serve here to emphaBize three lines.
This trash is mesnt to represent —
^^ Quid oQim differt, b&rjithroiw
Donci quidquid Imbc^j ati tiimquutn utiu« pwfttitr*
and, therefore, the ,, do not serve to mark off one
speech of the dialogue from another, for all this m
spoken by StertiniuB. Jabi^.
Athenaeum Club.
"Hic LIBER EST,'* &c. (.5«» S. il. 227, 296, 316.)
—This distich is by Professor Wahrenfels of Basle.
W. T. M.
Shtnfidd Grove,
See " N. & Q,," P» S. xi. 27, 73 ; 1L^ S. L 140.
Joseph Rix, M,D.
St. Ncofs.
SEiJjmo CoRPSus FOR Dbbt (4*** S. piMwm; 6*^
S. i. 49<» ; ii. 15, 217.)— I Have just chan^ ' '
across the original of the tonibstoof t
given under this head, in the Annual K'^i^Ut i^r
1766 (viii., 294), It is as follows : —
** Epitaph for %n Infant whoso suppoicd Paretitf were
Vap!*nt«. By tb© Bev. Mr, O- of NorthacnptoTisbire : —
" When no one gave the cordial draught,
No healing art was found,
Mj God thti M>vVei^ balsam brought,
And death reliev'd the woutid.
What though no mournful kindred itand
Around tht$ solemn bier,
THo parents wrint? the trembling hand
Or drop the tender teftr,
No ooatly oak adoro'd with art
M^ infiuit limbe enclose.
No friends a winding sheet impart
To deck my laat repose ;
Yet hear, ye gr«at ones, hear yc this.
Hear lh>i, je niighty proud !
A apotlej* life my coffin 19,
And innocence niy shroud.
My name ttnlmowD, obscure my birtbf
No funeral ritee are gi^'n,
But thf»' deny'd God's courts oa earth,
1 tread bis courts in heav'n/'
C. F. S. Warren, M.A.
CoRPSBS Esfci^osKD IK Wall? : " Utraque rx
miA THKCAv' &c. (5^ ^. ii. 185, 234, 2l>6.)— I can-
not iee that, in writing " a n^U in tfn! viiddle of a
cofflm,** I have made any mistake, orld or otherwise,
Thtm is not tlie gmve, as Mr. Tew renders it,
but the coffin ; and the me^^ning of the passage
ia that the two bodies* were enclosed in one coffin,
but there was a partition or wall along the middle
of it, separating them, J. T. Mickletdwaite.
MootBRN Latin ahd Grjcek Verbs (S*** S. ii,
348, tm.) — Long as is T-^^,. t yi-p£LxoN'9 eatA-
logiie of modern classi I , it may still hv>
fupplemented in a few p„. .. , ^ : —
1. Ihrpa^Auvi Smnrri (Tna. C<dl., Dublin).
Rivingt^ms, 18fj7.
2. Hfn'o' Tinuy$^nian(if^ Ed. A. X CThorch.
Macraillan^ lb7<**
^
338
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[B»* 8.11.001. 31. •14
3. Kottabos; an ingenious periodical devoted to
thin subject, and isfiuin]^ from Trin. ColL, Dublin,
4 Moore, William ^ M.A. Fetieula UrbL^f &c»
LongmikQSt 1871.
Wbile I am writiog, may I call attention to a
curious slip on the \m.vt of the same correspondent,
in his interesting notes on the "ScopuUia Greg-
gianua" in the Contemporarij Rtvitw for Sep-
tember^ of which I am reminded by his note on an
inBUince of loose grammar in your cun^nt number I
In that article {loc. cit^ p, 656) I read : ** Mr.
Mill aa.id that the raeinoiy of the departed wa« to
him a religion ; but this is scfiftu tralatiHo " —
evidently intended to mean in a metaphorical or
derivative sense. But surely the tnie meaning of
trahtici%i« is just the opposite of this : it always
means, so far as I know, at least in good authors —
(1) tnulitiooid, (2) customary » (3) commonplace.
**Hoc tmlaticium est.^* says Cicero {Ad Fam.,
ilh 8) ; and in Ad Aft^ ilL 23, v. 21, we get
tdidumf or caput^ iralaiicinni^ in the one ease
speaking of a clause such an was tdways on such
occsaaions inserted in the resolutions of the Semite,
and with a similar meaning — the ususd edict— in the
other. Finally, Pha>dru3, by bis *' Di sunt locuti
more tramlntido'^ (V. viL 24, Weber), idludes to
the conventional mode of representing the goda on
the Koman etage.
Still your correspondent may have authority for
hia ULse of the expression, uud if this be so, I shall
be happy to be connected.
Ernxst 0. Thomas.
Trinity College, Oxford,
There should be added — EpigrammaXum Opus-
imUum duGbus Ubdlis disiiyittum. Quibm , , ,
lomeri Batrachmnyorrnaehiti Latino rarrninc red-
dita . . . svbjnngitnr. Londioi, 162!>, 8vo. By
Huntingdon I'lumptre, MJ). There is a notice
of Dr. Plumptre, of Nottingham, in Blra. Hutch-
inson s Memoir of Colonel Hutchingon. This lady
abused him, but Thoioton says, " he was eminent
in his profession, and of great note for wit and
learning, and the author of a book of epigmms/'
Hd was the ancestor, I believe, of the many
persons of the name of Plumptre who, even to this
aay, have been eminent scholars. T. F.
Fioiculi Chdtonicnses are selections from the
Cheltenham College Prize Poems, 1846-1860.
These were partly edited by me in 18G7> at the
request of the Rev. Dr. Barry, then Prmci|ml of
the achooL The book contains some pieces of
considerable merit ; and there are some valuable
remarks in Dr. Barry-s Preface upon the study
and practice of Latin and Greek versihcation.
C. S. Jkrram.
** AsTucious " (5«» S. ii. 249.)— I find tliis word
in Spiew^B En ffluih- French Dictu^tary, Paris, 1869,
and in Fhigei's En^luk-German Dictumary^
Leipzig, 1847. The latter tmnslnfj-^ if Lv'^i.;^.
terltstig/' " listig/- " verschbgen."
c V i den tly the Fre nch adj ecti ve a> ' . , ^ : „ .,, .
wily, cunning.
Sparks Henderson Wuxjamb.
^^Petronius Arbiter" (5"* S, iL 249.)— T1»
following is the only jiotice 1 can find of this edi-
tion : —
"[T. Petroni ArhitriJ »tyrlcoii : cum nberioribii^
commentani inst&r, notiB ; concinniu^ multo et oobi»
modiui quam ante ditpositie (ed. J. a WouMrerisii). 0^ B*
fLugdunum BatarorlJj ex off. Plant. EapheleiAgii, liSOi
12mo.
'^2 leaves of preliminary matter, uid $84 pigfL
Repeated, L. B., J. Main, lt>23, 12mo. AmU,, G»tm,
1626, or 34. 24mo."— Ebert'a BtJtlio, Did^ Uxfori
1837.
Sfabxs Henderson Williams.
NOTES ON BOOKS. &a
Th4 Lift of John Holland^ of SluffiM Park Frm
Num^om Lcttrrs and other Do^irnent^fnmitiki^
by his NepJifw and Ext^utor^ John Bollfokd
BrammalL By William Hudson. With For-
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There are no books more interesting thiui tboff
which deal with the life, struggles, and career 4
self-made men. This is one of the very br t nf
such books. It is a social, literary, and reli^
biography. It is as full of interest as a novel
carries with it what many novels hick — an cjcl* i
moml. Mr. Holland is chiefly known in liter
by his seven volumes of The Mevuntg of M
gomtry fAc Foet, a work which wiH alwn
attractive for its interesting details of o '
man, who lived tliroughout a remarkable j
is to be regretted that " N. & Q/' has space
to recommend a volume so worthy of 1
generally read as Mr, Hudson's namitive of i!
tnglisb worthy. We may, however, iuhU thiii Mi
Holland was descended from a clergj^ian, of wliuiii
we the mther make mention as there has l>e«fl
some dieeuBsion lately on the prefix "F ' "''
clergyman in question lies in his grave i
parigh church, and over it is thi^^ ^ *
'* Under tiiis stone is placed and V i
of Mr. PiObert Holland, Vicar of Slit........ .... ..^..
Aupist, 1597." Mr. Holland's father was an
optical iniftrument maker, and the son Tbom uj
1794) began very early to work with the til
He says of his mother :— " It might intHr«'.si
young wives to be told that^ befci
all her household duties in an ext \
my dear mother spun^ not only the cun^
ticks, and coverlets of her beds » for tEi
but also, in early life, most of her own duiL;i^.
The Hpinning-wheel was a dear memorial of Lcr*
kept in the house af^er her death, — a relic sanctitierf
by her labour. The Volume contwna aome ex
^^^^^^^JM
.001.21, -7 4.)
NOTES AND QUERIES.
339
K>eLmens of Mr, Holland's poetical poems,
pie of his lighter vein, we ctinnot refnun
ting the following, in proof of his Benaibie
t;—
le Unt nmnber of this curious sencB,
by week, huTC each one duly read,
J SaturdJiy the Notta and Qutriet
Idle to me at my daily brciid.
et» abound and flomeumes ouriooi theorieB,
Bt and aoBwert that I must etijoy ;
IS lolT'd a grave historic doubti and here is
"d a ohanning literary toy.
ot williagly exchangG for gold
Bet enjoyment of this silent hour,
»rai to ripen rather than grow old«
;h lapse of years iti 11 teeming with fresh flowers.*'
d and honoured contributor passed awny
** His life was bright," says Mr, Hudson^
0 he new the secret of true contentment*"
) knowledge. Of him who possessed it,
daon hjiA produced a thoroughly capital
ly — wholesome English reading, eveiy leaf
1 ^tht Anfan Lanquaqu^ with Notts and
faiicn*. By Henry Attwell. (Williaiua
rgnte*}
me has clapeed since Professor Attwell
id, in the form of a wall-map for the use of
collegeflf and lecture- rooms, a table of the
Dr Indo-Eiiroj>ean langiaages, showing their
ition and affinities. This map or chart
in highly corainended by such high au-
I Bs Dr. Latham and Dr. Schmitz. It is
fadaced as a manual^ with important ad-
^Vtofeisor Attwell's Tahk is an excellent
mrards extending a knowledge of com-
^ philolo^% a science whichj as the author
1 1 immature. In the generolizationB
presents, the author admits there
yet something wanting; but that, as he
IMerres, ^Ms no rcjwon why the young
ihould be kept in the dark aa to the re-
between his mother-tongue and the
Greek, Latin, German, French,
lowed, erroneously, to regard those
he cannot fail to notice as simply
derivation." We have only to
ifeasor AttwelFs Tafde is, in fact, a
of tables ; first, of the Aryan lan-
corafju'ict but clever histories of each ;
blcs of ii lustrations of word-changing ;
ble of what is called ** Grimm's Law,"
a young ^tudont may be enabled to
bAtwpcn kindred and derived words ; and
r ' ' ' mges, which is,
% though per-
{»iriiJ<T. :i]iipirr;jiK. m this valuable
^hi^lp the student will do more than
ITItnow what he is saying— desirable
m thcHi^ days of long speeches, weari-
if Jiod a luera pinch of
Thk Ascitnt JswsL — A much esteemed correspon-
dent writes to the editor of the J€vUK World :—'* As I
hope shortly to Ihi in a position to produce some inter-
etttiig items reepecling the early status of the Jew« in
Eniyland^ I should l>e obliged by the assistance of some
Hebrew scholar for replies to the following queries, to
facilitate that object: —
"1st. The nam© of a certain Rabbi, who lived about
65 B c, is variously spelt Simon ben Bchet4M:h and 8imon
ben $hetach« which is the correct spelling, or are
they botli correct ? It appears so to me* or rather that
the soft c after « crept in as a redundancy in some traa*
pcription in the Anglo-Norman period.
"2nd. r? not this name Schetacb, or Shetach, the
same as Sadoc modified by legitimate letter chaagesY
Such a modification was frequent in the infancy of our
language, and consequently to be looked for in copyit^
others from dictation, or in simple transoribiog : for
instance, c became c4 in Banish, Norman, and Saxony
and 'Crist' and 'ciLd* became 'Christ* and 'child.'
As for the «x, f, and o, all vowels are interchangeable in
deriration, as the Professor of Anglo-Saxon observes,
and the readers of Anglo- Baxon and old English must
have frequently experienced. The d and i are, or were,
BO legitimately interrhangeable, that in a moderately
lengthy document of that period, d was made u«te of for
C, and i for </, at least half a do^en times. This is in
accordance with that inrariable rule of grammar laid
down by Dr. Latham, viae., "the letters most closely
allied in phonetics are the most fret^uently interchanged
in grammar.*' It is a curious coincidence that this rule
not only applies to phonetics, but actually to the cah-
graphy of the Anglo Saxon alphabet, for in it the d and
t are scarcely distinguishable. The application of this
phonetic principle, and of c Incoming cA, applies to the
varied Fpelling of Richard and Ricart, a.4 instanced in
theAirijA World oT 'itSth June last, p. 7; and, what is
more curious irtill, T obserro that the old Hebrew i and
T have a similar affinity.
" 3rd. The name Zadok (of the old Testament) ^ Zedek
in Zedekiab, and Sedec in Molchisedec, are^ I presume,
tynonymoas with Sadoc=jtut.
"4th. Was Sadoc, the founder of the Sadducees (who
is said to have lived about 250 B.C.), the Sadoc men-
tioned in the genealoj^- of Jesus ? According to the
then age of a generation, it would appear so.
'*6th. How early did Jewish proper names become
names of continuancG in a family ; and about what time
were two names first used among the Jews ?
" C. CUATTOCK, F.R.H.S.
*' Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire."
Transits of Venus : Kkplkh aki> Horrojc. — On this
subject, Mr. W. PsNtiELLV writes—'* Kepler predicted
the occurrence of the transit on Doc, 6th iN.S.), 1631,
and it took place during the night between the 6th
and 7th of December Kepler stated that Venus would
notagiiin bo seen on the Sun's disc previous to \liM ; but
Ucrrox. by an exact caloiilatjon, found that another
transit would occur in W^), on NoTCmber 24th, O.S. ,
and on that day he and his friend Crabtrce had the
gratification of witnessing the phenomenon, and were
the only persons who did so, or were aware of its
oct!urrence. Those who are deairous of further in-
formation on this interesting queation will do well to
turn to Grant's MUtonf of Ph^tkul Astronomy, A S52.
pp. 4U-432."
Barrv CoRirwAix (&" a li.31»>.— Mil. 8. R, T. Mavxr
writes : — " You - - - ' " " - :: a solution of the doubt
is to he found to hii letters, I huve
thirty or forty i ina; from 181 S to lvt>9,
and each one is sigacd ' H. VV. i'rocter/^never with his
ChfiitMa o&me in folt He vnu very careful in wntln^
hit tkAtDet k>.nwiTi|r that no context could gire a ctue to
it; ittd Iftfr ^ cruneriil writing iviwt very
feeble, be t tittke tiisBign&turrc distinctp
and alwuyb v, . .^ .- ... »..- .tft-hand lower corner of his
envelopM. As 1 liaro hait-a-dozeu of hia aufcographe to
gn&re, I aball be glad to give them to ilb m&ny readers of
'N. it (^' >vbo may care to have them/'
William Jx51>aic (5*'' S. ii. 300) waa iwe founder of the
Literary Oatette. He begaa editing it at iU twcnty-«ixtb
Kjnunber^ bis first contributiun baring appeared in tlie pre-
lirfoua nnniber (see hii Autobw^raphytVoL 11=., pp* 175, 1 1 7}*
ind, alluding to tbe Literarif Oaz^Ate, cm p, 160 be sayi,
*Tlil» new periodical bad been quoted, witb approbation^
in Che Sun of Febraary lUh [according to Jerdan'g
GUftom, tbe precine year U teft to the imajcuiBktion of tbe
rMder]j whea I luad no idea of erer being coDcemed
with it/' Olpuak Hambt.
T;he Quskf^ BiPViBXAi NAitK&— It may interest
numy to know that tbe Duke of Kent wished bis
t^ugbier's names to be Aiejcaadriaa Georgiatia, tbe first
in compliment to the Emperor of Kutsia, who was to be
P the princess's godfather. But tbe Regent told the
f Biassi&n ambassaidor that tbe name of Geargi&na could
rljc second to no other iu thi* country, and, therefore,
[file could not boar it at all. Tliis is made a note otirom
the OrtviUi Memoirs t jiut published.
Mil JoRif TiMBS.— We hsve to acknowledge, with
tbanks, tbe receipt of the following sums for tbe benefit
of the above gentiemati, now incapacitated for literary
work through age and illneaa :—
Mr. J. 0. PbilHpp« ».. £5 0 0
Mr. E. L. Appleyard 6 0 0
Iklr, n. B. CburcbiH^ 110
A Friend 0 10 6
BOOKS AND ODD TOLTTHEB
WiLNTSD TO PIJ1ICiUA£.
PuUmIui of Priee, &«., ef fvtijr be«k te bs ssat 4irt«t to tb«
tnm bf ivtiom it la required, wbess aaas and addroM u-t eivcn
VCTtoa
Wnuttd hj J, BomMtF, Kn • S. ^Unley VUiu, Uoxiry U«ilh, B.E.
7tiic Bx^To*. snS Uie t)««ipr1i FmuQj. (Cbronlola of Cktlioeford.)
Edition put)lUh«d flboat vm.
8. ljiiRUA^D*iil*ldtimB4acliatttt«eft)ie Wiinriokihire Atod^ and of
ibtRlvtrCevmi.
8. lJt«LAj(it> 1>lAtiiTe«qa« Vlmisf Ibt laiu of C^nrtln Laodom ntcd
1A'ett«DltiJt«r.
lK'aat«d \ty \r. M. BmiMt^ Klrton-ta Uiid<Ay.
ToKMiiArtitcAL JkIU«?lUtii«. London, I7M^ 4lo.
Wsiit«d bf Btv, H, A. SiotMli, BrcftdMlL RMteqr*
H. I*, T.—
" Most wretched men
Are cradled into Poetry by wrong ;
They leani in suflering what they teach in aong.**
Shelley, Julian and Maddah,
*' We Poets, in our youth, begin m glAdnesa,
But thereof comes tbe end, despondency and imidneH.'*
Wordsworth, Jitsolvtian attd Ind^ip€iid£nc€.
J. L. M.— Be Courcy, Lord Einsale : Lords Forester,
Sonax, and some others, had the privilege of wearing
their hats, if thoy chose, in the sovereign's pretence.
Aj, in most oaaes, the privilege was granted be<mn«e they
gtiffered fram king's evil^ thetr descendants are probably
not proud of it.
luid sit in her presence " becntiFC of ln> goedlbies^'*
—** The coin
'tp.3^,a»>
re tliafi
Queen Eliiabctb tol4 Bin^le^ be
shou'
A much-respect*^ Corrc
mentioned by the Hk\*. F.
less in very fine coudit:
old silver. I do nu\
on tbe reverse, 'c .
Mjl Mant wrote 'a t iaid k,
•*The varieties of Ciiarlci L-
numerous, and some of them rare,
tween *rare' and *ci>mmou* are,
minute, aa only to be s*t!»ible to experts^ iitiii Ma, \
cannot do better tbau show the piece Ln qaarttan It
some respectable London coin-dealer*'"
Toe Rev, E. MAii5iiAT.t writes :— *' Mt tioat tli«iikie»
MjL F. SCHITMAK WlMTt:, MR- GAKDTTIK, %{%, P» M. JACK'
SON, and Mk. W. Ci. Diok^ivscin, by whose puUtc a*m<jtsi
I have been enabled to complete my evpy of WmIi]^
Thomas ^ Kempis/'
E. R. W.— We mu? "' Am««l#dW>
corum, by Dr. F. G. ! ar cobtnoms;
or, better stilU to th *i«iii, by lis
same author. The former wortc is tounded on tW taittf.
S> W. K—Tbc sign of " The Naked Man " w« •
satire on the oontiQU&l change of faabiou, and rtmtmlfnA.
a man who was uncertain as to what attirs he diooU
put on,
M. W.-
** as sweet and tmiiiiea]
As bright Apollo's lut^, strung with bis hair/*
Shalupoare, Lo^i Labour '# LfisU Act tv. se. &
MfiSSAS, Go! !
and General >I
* What class of £-,-... i, „.-.,. ..
pith taken oat of cattle boms f '
J. A. CRoziiStt.— Mr. Wm. Jackboot Pioott refert
to " N. & Q.,** 5"' 8. 1 45, for a descripUon of tlie
inscription in tbe old castle of ChAoonv, and alio
onoe to portraiti formerly in Birr Castfe.
F. 8. Vf.^The Lo^inytr vfhi publisbed in
1785^787. Henry Mackenzie contributed betwMilit
and fifty papers.
J APPIER. —Miss O'Keil (the celebmtsd actress) muvd
Mr. (afterward Sir Wm.) Becher (Bart.), in DeceBAcr^
1819.
H. B. PmiTON.— "The Seven Whistlepa/*ie« "K.*V
for October 3, p. 264.
The communioatian on Gipsy ChrisUan Kaniet^Aitl
p. 294, wfkS from cur old Gorref):iondent Bu. KtX«
T. B.-~An Acci^tni of On L%te and Ttma iff Mitmi
Calamy was pnblished many years ago.
A. L. M.— We are seeking for an emrlier cspetaioft if
that proverbial saying.
J. R. Scott asks where a copy of the Chnttuk 4
Simon of Thtrham may be seen.
C. D, F.— Letter forwarded to QcKsr.
H. A. 8.— Next week.
XOTtOE.
Editorial Oommunications sboold be addnflwd lo *'
Editor"— Advertisements and Buiintii Latl^ftlo'*^
PobUaber "—at the Office, 20, Wellington Btfteet,
London, W.C.
We beg leave to fftate that we decline to ratem «o^
municationB which, for any reason, we do tKrtpflnt ; •*»
to this rule we can make no ezceptioCL
To all communications should be afflxcd Cbi aiflW **^
address of the sender, not neoeaarHr for ywMiiliiM^ bat
as a guarantee of good fsith.
0*8. 11. Otm SI, 71.)
NOTES AND QUERIES.
MUnmtft SATtrKDAT, OCTijBEB 31, 187^
COXTBNTa — N» 44,
...f tilt' «;3,,rgy»"—
^RfLIKS :— Cilpff Names. o^I^—ShAlupwins : ItAican,
— C>
P*rts
Ac—
ritliim
1
fiatti.
TDOMAS TRKGOSSE,
1 hivf* 1 *mi!l V'^li
of sinenty pi it- con-
>/ TTtom
r ; and Home Lilt* is
• h, London, PnntM
lxxl' JNlr. Tregnsse was n Parittin
lit SL Ives, nea.r t\w Laod*3i End,
^ 4e» Oxfowl,
mimstry,
lor and ^i ,
J until Biltu ,. . . , ..,. .^.i
; removed to IVnryn.^ in
1 H ' ^ c» aver t^ '^ in 1 660 ;
eciition at the hands of the
i in Janiiivry, 1670. Mj copy
Hpt correction«y and tiie
on the title-pag^, " By
Galewaaan emiofut
rnjin, and the author
rR% hut DO rcfer-
I mts'rt ItRt, The
letters were written to some on<? who l^elouj^^^d to
Devon, but who wft» abAent, fot they !§]x»ftk of
*^yoiir friends nt Cretliton, Chimly, and Scmth-
molton/- und '* heartily wish (hnd the wbe Loud
seen it Ilf) your Bt^ition had been fixed in your
native soil." In another letter, Oct^>Wr ?» 1 070, he
&fly8, " 1 am a SympathizMr with you in dear ^Ir,
R.'« loa? of so choire n mite/* Mn Gale, on his
return from \m truvcU tus tutor to Lor<l Wlmrton'a
-nns, beciimo liH^iisUmt, und ; ' . -1. . -^^
tM Mr. John R<twe, who 1 -t
ikdborn. This ;^'' * ■ 1 ,. .1., -i*-,.,i ^ .. liiut
Mr. Gale W;i5 the I the letters, and pro-
bably the writer oi i. ^i.iphy.
Several instances of " npt^cial Providen* >
DAiTAt^ in th^ \^x*k. The Tregos«es are «!'
to be of noblo blood, bcm;:^ more ancient in Britaii?
than the Nornmn Compipfit, ami having a Barot
John Tref^o?«e under the Conqueror, :i Biiroo
Henry Tre^opse in the Piirliament of 35 Edward L,
and a Robert de Trej;oHs<» amon^ the lords whr
aided with Simon de Montfort u^;ttnat Henry II L
The downftdl of the family is thu% accounted for i—
*■ One Mr Rinrtuhi^v^ ffoing; in PilfrriruR^e. hia Wife
bad in 111 " ' ' ' " u, at his
returu, J t&te on
some Fii- ^u, le«t,
after Ills Ut^atlit th^i ILir at O.»uiiiioii Law i>iiould (urn
hb Wife and Chi Wren *nit of rfoor*. Mr. Rofcadd^m
embriKtnr ^ • •• ■ - ^ :^ i \ x^^ ^^^ ai:ce|)t of tliiitru^t,
i,f hich a [istoiidof n Dc«d in ttuft,
be niAil aiiil iri-^ Heirs. As Boun
08 '^' :. A tt',^& JluJ^ the fdid i' ctitPed
on ' ind tafhcd hii Wife 1 out of
du ' . r,.^ titite lay in a i " "^-ry
riM on tho dniksrhtL t et
iui^ iikccfttice of Oi'd ■ Itii
Otit:^. Allci tLtr> time the Ju^^ l!y
Bppeiirod iv;^iinxt tbi'* Family; 1 ^g
from his horse in u fair way. hi „, . 1. . .-. . of
biti isiue carrie to mi undtuely dJeiith : and a curt^ halib
reniaiDed on the c«ta4e ever tince. This Mr. TbnnMM
Tregogie (wbo«c Life we now relnU) was »o gr«»Uy
sensible of, as that it coat him iranj Prayen for the
remoTiag of this curse, as be hioiftlf assured me.**
Has thia story been related in any history of
Cornwall, or other Ixwk ?
Another special Providence is^ related a few
t St,
: V.
rid
rif
'\\ I 'J i lie r^H'
4"
' r the book was rnillv
I'M' .\\i\ out-
-v Gale / ' The
Page a farther on. When Mr. TriL'os^o tUn! ;
res there waa a f^ure Ln \\n
He advised a day of prayer and :
Xh^» wjw held. Next day an imiii'^
mlchurds api>eiired, and ther<? wa^* a _
The next year theie wa* h gri at catch uf [^ilLiiiiitla
on a Saturday night, and tJie fishermen w*»re fmay
drying their nets next day, Humlay, ^^ ~ -^
told them (hey h.^d prtivitked tbe L ii-
draw hi8 M- ' an<l "hn'i rhat
time to t!ie 1 M>n, thf»y luui not
'' - their Nets."
ed Pimrynj Sep-
" At this Assiic at Kxo^ I waa caiV^Vjo m1t^^J^C^^^»
342
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[S^BALOcT.Zir
no persecutor appearing to giro eridence against mflj
my Jury acquitteml me» and a Verdict of not gmlty waa
returned* Gtorye Smith, the Deputy major of 7*omng(on,
when the CoDT^nticle nvaa eurpntfd (and the grand
Eucmy in tbia i^air) vrta at Le»t Assise attending ; but
tlid Trial being put off, by thi§ Aitizo God disfiblod liim
for such a journey, he having received in a drunken
yoyage a fall from hia Horse ; by which his shoulder-
bone 18 diilocated, and he rendered unable to dresa or
nndreaa himaelf ; and bo like to abide to the day of his
death. Hia Wife atao (that violent Woman) died of a
Timpfeny, a fearful ipectacle to all beholders; abe de-
parted hence the night of that Lorda day in which I
exe relied at Torrington, m my joumeving now to my
home. I suppose you heard of the bad end of another
peraecutor there, one DenySy tSmith Brother in Law,
vrbo BO much rejoyced when our meeting vols broken up,t
affirming^ the aurpriial of the Conventicle did him more
good, and more rejoyced him then all bis loflflca did
sadden him : hti Wife also bitterly bekhM forth tbe»e
worda concerning me, bang the Kog^ue ; hang him at the
8igQ-poat, or next Tree^ and never eend him to Mxon :
Tbia poor wretch did hang himself in his own Study, and
thereby hia Estate is forfeited to the Town. Many much
take notice, how signally Gods hand hath been ogain^
them tince that Meeting."
J. H, A. B.
Cierdand, Ohio, U.S.
ROLL OP XORTHERN AEMS, TEMP.
RICHARD II.
(Harl. MS. No. 65S9, Fo. 309.)
I ftm not aware that this important record has
ever been noticed, except cursorily in the 39th
vol. of the Ar€}i(toiog^i<if where it is alluded to in
a recital of the contents of the above well-known
MS. as iin inserted leaf not in Charles^ band,
but without nny intinmtion respecting its contents^
date, or value, obsen^ations npon which T hope to
I €>lfer in & future article^ contenting^ mjaelf niean-
irhile by simply publiRhiog the roll exactly m it
Btands, except in so far aa contracted words are
concerned J wnicli I have extended in full : —
1- Joho de Blencowe, dc goulei, a vno quater
dWgent.
2. John de Newby, port de fable, a me feea d'argcnt,
k 3 Roses de gouk«
2. John do Lcirinton^ de goulz, sur mc chooron
1 d*argent, 3 . . . sable.
I 4. Tho: Allanby, d'argeni^ a "me chemron plaine, k
bordnr azur engrale.
5. W" Fe their, dc gouls, a Tne cbeuron d'ermyne^
k 3 plumes d'arccnt.*
6. Baph dc Thirkowald, de goula, a r&e cherron k
3 teste du ainglcur d'orgent recopeet.
7. Rie' do Kyrkeby, d^az^entj vne feea k demi de
aablf , a quater d 'argent me ferdomoleyn de aablea.
8. John de la more, dc gouk, a me oroyao pat tee et
Tne ftcalloppe deraunt d'argent.
9. John de Skypton, port d argent, a me acre (ncj
de aable.
10. Hamond Monceaux, de gouU, a me croyae
fMfircelle d'or, et rue acallop d*or en la quarter a moni*
• la the margin, added by the copyiat^ *• after Thtrke-
wald 0,'* he haTing apparently miaplaced it from iti
jpofiiion in the roll.
wald Q,
n, W"* Bealieu^ d'argent, a Tue cb«iinni dati»e«
{ticj k 3 teate du oysell da aable.
V2, Roger Salisbury, de goulea, a TOd er^ifK
d argent, k 4 teste du leopard d'or*
13. Roger Ncwera, d*azur, a too fees d'argent, <
garbei d'or
14. Tho: Brmybrooke, port d'argent, a 6 loaeti^e* i
goulea*
15. John Chamborlayne, de goula^ vne feel 4Si
lopea d'or.
16. John de Wystowe, d*argent, a me cbeuron ,
pellottz de goulz.
17. Roger de Well^ d^or, a une griffbti nuDpmi
vert,
18. Le Boron de Skirpenbeke, de gotilt, fut croia |
d'argent, cheif d'axur, et Tne leopard paMsnt d'or to le
cheif.
19. John de Slererbaisett, dc gouli, a troia '^^If^Sw
d^argent
20. John de Egleafyld, d'argent, a 3 egjet di^iViytt
de gouh.
21. John de Cottingham, de sable, vno cheTrtiii eogiak
k ^ plumes d'argent.
22. Robert yieglites, de Legburn en Lmcoln^tftk ^
goulz, xne chouron k 8 croiaea recerselea d'4>r.
23. Mousire de Scrembyi d'aiur^ a 3 barren k tse
bend d'or.
24. John Shandos, de goulz, a rne pui»c fytche d'tr<
gent.
25. W"' de Randford, ermyno, a une cbeif de gealL
^ 2 teste du singler d'argent.
2il Irjby, d'argent, a deux caterfoyllei k rat qvifter
de goulz.
27. John LytbcRrBynfe, do goal*, a mo «iootc^
voydz d 'argent, et la bend d'or.
23, [Benrjjf de Mekton, de sable, a me leoti rampant
d'argent, coronne dor, et en anne de goaU, mi vrte dtl
marlotts d'argen^.
29. John Wyehamj de sable, a me fe«8 It 6 mailotli
d'argent^
30. Esmond de £vard, d^argent, a cheif de goaU,ltl
molletts d argent,
31. Rarth : deNaun^ " -«*- =- ' )o, a 3 marbtta d'argait
32. John do Buckt , a Tue cbtirrv) lampMl
de sable, le teste et i:h i irgentt lea cronea wst
33. John Biel&nst Kikirte (sic), port d'argent^ a tnp
rooke de chesae de sable.
34. Roger de Somcrryle, port barule de goulz k d*tr
gent, ou Tne bordur d'azur as marlotta d'or,
85. Esmond Montague, port d'azur, a vne grrffp
rampant d'or.
36. William Story, port d*argent, a me tygre de par
pur, a Tne croislott aur le apaule d'argent^ ovee la covi
freashe.
37. John Wellesby, port d'arg;ent, ampde de aaUc^
a Tne leonard pasaant d or du cheif.
38. Hobert de Bynchestree, port de goatea, on te «hiif
battayle d'orgent.
39. W"* Wyrcll, port de goulea, frette d'or, OTee 1
quarter de goulea.
40. Walter Burdon, port d'nzure, a troia b^rdoiilrtl
champ poudree de croiaktts d'or uglitrede.
41. John fit* neell, port d'argent, a troya palea da
gQuIea« et Tne fees d'aaur, k Z marlotta d'or en la feea
42. Robert Teyaa^ port de goules> a me fees et 3 nul-
lotta d'or.
f The Christian name added in another hand.
I EquiTalent to Parly]. i
of the same term in Jenyn^
(HarL 6f>89, p, 94), "Mr. IUi.,.c u. V..:^;.... « „,
Axure amp'ty, le cheif croieelee d'or/*
tm
i
0* & n. Oct. 81, 7*.l
NOTES AND QUERIES?
343
-' Mnrftley, port de goolet, ft troys testes da
51, fn
cbe^ ' m^e«, frejrtie do'inbJei
44 I icpcriratt, p<^ d'ftxufe, & trois gemeaz k
, cblef d ar^iuut,
*r». Ricbanl JHftllctt, port do iftble, me chearon, k
iSffr--- '*' *
[tort de goulefl^ a rne fees dftuoce
<i!l<? d'or*
ort de sable, t me cheuroa &
4i
^ 1 1 de nbU, A me bend ot deux
fit.
.., port d*argcnt, a me bend dauoce
rcy, jjort d'argent, a yne chief de goulei,
iti gU'S^intorif port d'aiur, a rue rasa perce
52. Benry Byssbopbery, port d^argent, a Tne fees ct
I deux costicea de a^ble.
5.1. Ttioinaa Pyxe, d'axiir, a me fees ei 6 crosieleitfl
fyiebet d*or en la champ.
M. John Maadytt port pale ounde do 6 d*or Jc de sable,
65. Tbuinfts BoBville^ port d'argent^ a T«e fuselle de
goaIef« k 3 crola1ett« de nble,
li^, Thouiftf Cobbam, pore ermyne, a troys cre«sants
de *roulp«, on '* hc^ivnU,*
'">rt de goTile*^ a deux moletts d'or
r ermyne.
..*,.... Mortimer, port d'or, a 3 fleure de
able.
Whti .^ytpelbv, port d'ftiur» a «5 marlotti d'or.
^I'Arjfcnt, a me fees daunsce
lies,
^..j u icke. d'argent, a Tne frette k
citon. pott d*azur, a T&e feei goub,
I ilL- iu:o.^ dtir.
bn Tcrebv, port d'argent, obeif luttr, a 3 bousset
I.?©*? estoyll d'or au cbamp.
John Aglomby, d'argent, a deax bam de »ab1e, a
^ Z marl at t« a meairie fncj au cheif.
<55, W-* Uoton de fore«t\ de goules, a Tne fees sable, &
3 oryellien d'argent,
Jaites Greknstreet.
^
ILLUSTRATIONS Of SCOTTISH HISTORY:
maroRicAL error regarding robkrt de brcs,
TBB ** competitor/'
In 187i), the Rev. Joseph St^yenBon edited
far tlie Rolls' aeries of pablicationii twa volumes
of Ih^cMffuntM Ilhutrativc of ScottUh Hiiiory
"^-" * ' M6, which embrace mnnj very
In vol. i. p. 22, a document
..ml, ^....f.>„Ker, 1286, styled
tiand and Eng-
- . tnl, I susjiect, by
odaiid (vol» i. pp. 64-5),
! refiice (p. xxxviii) founds on
ihi* ivMeged mntxiai Bond as showing —
rdioiii\! prtrty at teait had formed
> rod to take advantage of
1 a path to the throne for
> wi the family of Bruce lost
and him a powerful body of
whom wae held at Tumberry
fro
iut>
iij.iMi L.. 1
•^ Bond of c«
** iha.t all- f»>]v
an;
* new cJttUiiii-''
Oil tiine iti ^ri
adlicraita, a r*
Caatle, in order to concert a defimte line of action. A
Bond of mutual defence waa executed, wlich, while it
made it impossible for anyone of the contracting parties
to withdraw from tbeconfederac^y, pledged each member
to act In obedience to the decision of the majority ; in
other wordfl, to support the claim of Robert Bruce. It
passes over iu silence tht^ bereditary title of the Maiden
of Norway ; hf::r nume is not mentioned in the instrument ;
but it ftSBumea that the throne will be occupied by one of
the Royal DIood, who shall obtain it sc cording to the
ancient custt^ms hitherto approred and observed in the
realm of Scotland/'
And be add»^ § 12 ; —
** It would appear that this conTention never came to
the knowledge of the King of England, although it was
joined by his own son-iu-law, the Earl of Gloucester; or
if it did, he treated it with indifference.''
With every deference to Mr. Stevenson^ whose
learned labours in the elucidation of the histofy
of the Middle Ages are well known to all scholars,
be lias entirely mistaken the drift of this Bond*
It is unnecessary to repeat it at lenjjth, but it is
simply a ** Bond of Man-rent," well known in
Scottish Charter cbcnts, by which ** Patrick Earl of
Dunbar, Patrick, John, and Alexander Ms sons,
Walter Stewart Knrl of Menteith, Alexander and
John his sons, Robert de Bnise Lord of Annandate,
and Robert Bnise Earl of Carry k and Richard do
Bruse his sons, James the Steward of Scotland
and John hia brother, Anpns the son of Donald
and Alexander his son," hind tlumsdves on thtir
oath with their whok power, to astUt Fiickard de
Burgs, Earl of Uhter, and Sir Thomm de Chwt^
aqainxt all the lattcr^t adt*er«art«», easing their
allegiance to their respective sovereigns. And so
far from their being any mutual obligation between
the Scots and the Englishmen, the former ore
bound under very gtringent conditions to assist
the latter only ; there is not a word of any re-
ciprocal obligation by Clster or De Clare to the
Scots. As a learned writer ""^ has pointed out, how
could such a Bond forward the claim of Robert
Bruse to the throne, when he and his two sons
expressly declare their allegiance to the person who
shall obtain the Scottish crown ? It must be re-
membered that, although the Maiden of Korway
had been recognized as heir to the crown on Feb. 5,
1283, there was a reservation in favour of any
children whom her grandfather, Alexander III,
(a man only forty-three years of age), or the widow
of her Bon, just dead, might htive, and that when
this Bond was signed Alexander himself was but
six months dead, and it was believed that his
widow was with child (Fordun, xi, c, 3), There-
fore the general terms in which the heir to the
Scottish throne is indicated,—" jtui regnum Scotie,
mtione sanguinis felicis reoordationis Domini Alex-
andri f^gis Scotie qui ultimo obiit, adipisoetur et
oblinebit, secundum antiauas consuetudines hac-
tenus in regno Scotie approbatas et risitatas," dec, —
3U
NOTES AND QUERIES.
are perfectly correct in the above circumstances,
and the omission of the Maid of Norway f^y navu
proves nothing. In no cjise, at any rate, was
Rol>ert Bruce the elder the heir % thful to the
throne. The Baliola and the Comyns (the latter
as the heirs of an eider dynasty) hud a far better
right, though ** their star paled before that of
Bruce," Air. Stevenson makes another sinjj^ilar
mistake in culling Thomas do i 'lare the son-in-lnw
of Edward I. He hn>5 clearly confounded him with
GiJha't de Clare, Earl of Gloucester, a very different
personajte.
It will be noticed that the second eon of the
Competitor k named *^ Ridiard/' This name 1^
not known in the Bruce family, and I waa inclined
to think it a mistake for ** Bernard,'' which appears
to be the readin^f of one of three MStS. of the
**Bond" in the BritiBh Museum. But on con-
sulting the best of these three (MS. Addit. 15,G44X
it is undoubtedly " Ricardua," and therefore may
be due to the copyist. This MS. is a strange col-
lection of documents made by an Augustine
Steward of Lakynheath, co» Norfolk, about the
latter half of the s^ixteenth century. Where he
got them it 13 impossible to divine, as they are
often totally unconnected with that county, the
only bond of union being thnt they genendly make
mention of some person of the surname of Stewart.
One of them, which is noticed liy M. Michel (Lcs
Jico^ais tn France^ i. p. f*2), m a very siniu'ular
rant of arms by Charles VI. of France to an Andrew
Stewart, which is twice blazoned in the volume,
k knight on foot ligbting with a lion, the Stewart
chequcrn hnnging above his head. The idea closely
resemblL-s the wfll-known seal of Roger de Quinci,
Constable of Scotlandj fighting on foot with a
aimilar animal. * Anglo-Scotus.
EXAMINATION OP PHASER OF BRAY.
The following has been copied from a IMS.
evidently a transcript of one much older. The
original orthogrjiphy has been presen-ed : —
** Ane Acmmpt. of what pa*t btiwAt y* Lord H^Uofu
i^yrd Dundonatd, the LaiM nf Bruy (Ftoitr), and
ArchhUhop Sharp,
" HatiiM. What mim of bnJe are joa ?
*'/?mv. Yn Lordahip wold expliUDe wh* you mean
by a hnilo.
**IIaHoH. Arc you an heritor?
" JJray. If that be ihe thiii]^ yo' Lo. meins by «. had«*
I am.
*'iiaUon, Whor lyci yo' LAndil
"Bray* In Eomc.
**ffaltofL Are you a preacher !
*' Bray. Tho' I my*, by not ncknowledrini; this^ put
your Lo. to the trodble to prore it, I will irite y^ Lo. a
clear evide^oce of my tn :'*■' '"■ - *• - 7- freely y* I
do« p reach, and tho' I I 1 1 1 tr.gc the r
despicable, yet I glory i in^; God in
the Ooapell of hij Sone, thaii in any othtr thing I can
pretend ta.
" IftiUoiu Arc you in orders 1
•* Bray, A» to q* concern*** n-
sees 1 have been very free in m
made me culpuble liy y*^ Lawe-
6ircuniV4 ntt d. kiit for««iiti(i \hf !
acknowlerlcfed I breach without u
Bihhop. But aa to q* coneemei otUi rs, r rnnv 1
brin^ tht m on the »tuj:e, yo' Lo/ will excuse
lavinji aiiytbiug in ;t.
*' IlattOfL. Itt you glory ao much in y* Mttgti
doe yt>u not owen U, why doc you not owen y' pi
y^ is not ingenuity at all H
** Brai/, J rCMpiett y' Lo/ to hare no spmelienMcif} (
me at ail, but aa of one tnoet irgcnuoui, bttt
owcned my pereon* miniitry, and other prmelf
po»o me upon, you ihall find me very free
yo' Lo/ an accomp» of tlem, but why I ^ould not 1
y' question directly, I have given yr. Lo' ane
allrendy,
**Mar;?. Thk Gentleman seemee O"^ ii -
with uit, poflFibly he wold bo more fro-
6tait he fitocMi in, q'^' U not ordinary, ti „- .. .i 1.
pendciouB principle*, dettructive to all kynd of U' rci^i
mentt and withal! is very active iu thr?f. *»-» n» y k
ecarce a conventicle I hear i.f hut it I- tfi^r
y* U tho preacher, and lyktvysc i* at ■ ^ir to
bo a man of Learning and pairt», Sc y f m .,. .„ .c to bi
taken notttce off, «emg pairta y* way improvou are nuit
dangerous.
'* iifay. 1 knowe no pen i ' ' '■ 1 ,1
as yau mean niay concern t
loyalty. A» io the first, 1 f: v
eiitabli»*hed, I have a very nfcat avtr-
to my Loyalty 1 wold not cure much tl
q* were in my heart c
ofy'^, I have boin pr ;
to amend y' waycs ari 1 ^ ,
pernicious, I confesse luyw^ii nuijty oi it.
♦* Sharp, The greatest heritick will Ukj wo,
" Broy. It \& not ^ityinj?; but doiufj.
"Sharp. The^e are fyiie princ'*^^' you hold^ y* alJ |*»»i
n- 1 of yo' judgement it is law full to cutt \' vW,
*' Bray. If you can produce any t
(fahc ones you may) y* will gay y^ ever
iuch doctrine, I am content ttj die presci li>.
*^ Slnirp. But you hold y' the people may. q'«verth«|
think y'selves wronged^ make a pretence of reii^oo h
ry^ up Bg* ye iMagrat««
** Bi^y. 1 have read, pro and contra, Dpon Uie ftilnMl.
both Loyalist and Comonewealth men, ^ . . * r
read or heard oft, 1 never knew one y '
(upon q'*' Hatton mid 3 in" others fjj
f'utq'rui-;
-t Lo>'ali«t
. ,_,,.-, „.,.. . Utisyre not U ..^, >v ,.- ..
n q"
we lw\d c^ ■
frttm the i
but y' IB :i Li
at thia tym.
•• JIaitim.
Did you ever pre»^eh tn the fte!<!t*
** Bmy. Yo'' Lo knowca : "" >
Cnminall, and I am nof
acuser. It ig enough my
it not by my owen hand. I :
y', bring my accaBer« and ^ 1
*' Sharp, Tho' thia be t' ;, .^ r,
they most not be taken trtMn u i
" I) undo n ri Id. 8 i r, you w < j ! 1 1 . - .f the
Committy by being in^^nuoufr i«fur*
you none of ua have any ill mil 1* t takt
any adratitage of you or any of y i>i*M ij iroui nuj ihlQC
y' ye «ay.
" iSiTiy. I thank y' Lo^
** HattoH, Did you ever prea<;h tn Lathgow 1
'* Bray. It may be^ I bare.
6« 8. n, Oct. 31, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
345
f *' Sharp, Yt's, Sir, you h»Te, and io tlie fitltU m grant
'* Brtiy. I Retype y* mfty be proven,
-• llntinn. Yon scctne to be tt wnife, Jfc one j* bath not
mn in at the *l'>rc but ut tlip wip.dnvr,
" A'nTy. If I IihaI a ' y' 1 lijid not bvin in ordtr yo' Lo
00 hiul been jgood, q** I a' I could not iuik^ y^
■ o'' Lo/ (»n not nrjiue from tbe negittire &f if
. ..-'^ . .u
** i/alitm.. But you are infcf r-communed.
« /?r,T»/. When F vat outUwed I wm ]2rt mylla frum
<y my citatiojj vftu gtTen, «o y' it wa» not
>r me to tvu^' it, and it wui upon preU'nded
^._u . .y in not n.p}.>cftring:.
**Mt>Uon. But why did you not move in it aince 1
Ijjfrity. I <H»«}td not Timvo in it Ain<*e, b' can9« I hml
I out of )uy Uai'd.
' iiaUon. Ihd yoa crer conycrse witb Mr. Forreit4?r ]
*«/r
|TMt«r.
i be biijd stilly tince he went
CO by letters, and yo are hia
Lord Uatton, j^elnf; tbe Bishop tares so, I
u*ly T hud neicr hoil any from Mr. For*
, no not M niueU m eAchftri>rt:d ^t word nith him.
' ffriff/yr-. Y"Ti '■•ctrie to be of tht* Quakers' |iriuciptci.
II? our civiliticiS, yet My Lord Sint-
\>'. baa plcoacd Lo honour, you j^irc
^ „ - „ :ni ffives you. Ho givta you, Sir, but
f<m (ttvo him nothing, y* i« not citility.
*lISfatf, 1 am not heir to justifie my good breiding,
oniirtt i am a rude man, but for that I have no
A. A.
PARALLEL PASSAGES.
ChihU Han^ f - .. ^.. IT .t..., ., viilr-
^Yetif, P^ id, there bo
A laiiii Lhle t-horfij
To ibNmc litv) iii-'Ctrif^t: u]~ tba ^iidducce
Aud $ophifltiip roadty vain of dubious lore."
; instmcts me to compare
i^ui^ jioniiu .Munibui locu^, ei tit sikpieutibaa
, non cum corporo exftttnguuntur magnm untmie/'
Erem.
Sir Wolt-er Scott niakes HOTnebody describe Ilnl»
* " r»'. I' h'iA fr,r LLv^^M^fT, and o*er ;^ude for
from Oomeiile ? who
LCT hla dcath^
»• II a fait trop de bien pour en tUr« dn mal,
II » fAit trop de mal pour en dire du bien."
a A, Ward.
In n copy of Plnutus in my libniry there is a
Inoie to the hand writ in j^^ of tuy ^Taixdfatber in the
Iftitii gencnition — HorhtTt Iuiinh>Iph — aboiTt the
end of the seventeenth century, to the following
it iv. tc* 2, 99 — * Ad caput amni*',
kqttiv I r «ub aoHo Jims.* Tiri^: SLev, xxii. 1
I — 'Am. V -. - i..»5 a pure river of water of life, clear
[•« crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God aad of
) th« f Aftib.'
' Q, Undt hoc in ment^tn poettv dcsititi f ^'
Herbert Rastdolpii.
" S<> faylniic* be (the Dnke t>f Ork'nn?) *!rcw bi« sword
from ita scabbnnl, anJ flung i« .^c. It went
thf ngb the air like m utrcam , and sunk in
the tlnsbing WAters, which sjit; ..r c ...d over it."—
Scott, Qnenlin Dui-vMtd, eliap. xv,
• ♦ Thtn quickly rose Sir Bcdivere ....
And clutcbtd the sword,
And stn)ntfly nheeUd and thr^w it, Tbe great brand
Mode lightnings in th« ' ' f the moon ....
6o flatted and fell tbe i ' ibur/'
Tci i , ,(€d' Arthur,
Jonathan Bouchier,
With the passa^ quoted by Dr Ramage (5**» S.
ii. 145) from La Bniyere, *'conibien d'hommes ad-
mirahles .... soiit tnorts sans qu'on en ait parlt*,"
may be compared the well-known stanza in Horace
{Odes IV. ix. 25-29) ;—
'* Vixer« fortes ante AjjamcmnoTa
MqUj, 8od omnej illncrymabiles
Urgentur, ignotique longA
Jfocte, carent quin rato Eacro.**
Yonr correspondents (5** S. ii. lOfn 146) have
fsuled tomldiice aniotiti-cnsarktible paralleJ pu&jiage
to iJrt*/R *' Full many a jjem/'&c.^ in a now «lmo«t
entirely forgotten poet of the previous century : —
** spent
Lik(? beauteous flowers, which Tainly waste the scent
Of odors In utibanted dcsarts," &c.
Cbamt^crlayno'fl Ph^ronmda, bk, U. p. ©4, cd, 1<560,
C. W. BnreaAM.
Ha* the following been notinl ! —
" Woe to thee, O land, when thy king ia a child !**
EccUritiite* X. 16.
•* Woe to that land that *s gorern'd by a child ! "
10 chard II L Act ii. ic. 3L
Laycauma.
♦* The Otirt Conr^rt ; t or a | Sincere Sorrow for Bm
Faitbftilly I Traveri'd; | Expressing the Dignity of a I
'fJ.,,.^ T . ,,;f..,,t, I Drawn in Little by Un*\ wbost* Mani- |
f,.] es Abroad hare rei»*ler'd I him Xecea^itated
tu iieltcr Here: | by Deilicatinn himself, and
tbis -Titall I'oem. I By H. A. Oeni, | Printed for the
Author. I **
Sn runs the eomewhat eni;nnAtical title- page of
a very mn^W book now lyine before roe. Besides
the title, it contains an ^* Epistle Dedicatory,*'
2 pp., and the poem iteeif, '24 pp., numbered J> to
32. The mte is small 8vo., not 18mo., m Lowndea
(e<Htion 1834) has it. H. A. Gent Aibscribe* hina-
aelf in fall at the foot of the ** Epistle Dedicatory,"
as Henr>' Anderson. Byeo doinj^c he has certainly
preserved his name from total oblivion, whicli the
merits of Im "Poem" would hardly have done..
Yet, bad as it h, it scema from Lowndes that the
p:itcrnity of it is claimed by anotbi?r individual
equally unknown to farao. "Some conie-H," he
H.'iys, '^ of this poem have Iho name of Audley as
the author." But the curious thing about the
book, and that which alone entitles it to the
honuur of a resurrection in tK^ \«\%^?i tA^^'S.^^-V
346
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
f^** s, n. Oct. ai, 74. '
reinams to be noticed. The " Epistle Dedicatory "
is h<?Aded^ " To the HoiioiTred;* foUoiri-d by a
blankf which In my copy has Lecn very neutly
filled up, by pen und ink, with the name of
'*Bir John MuQwayi-ing^ Bjirt.*' It would thuf*
itppear that the poeuj vvils delibemteiy intouded to
l>e uiicd ii3 ft kind of Leggini^ letter, to be dedicated
in tutn to any one and evcny one who was deemed
likelj to relieve the poet's want>i. As might be
supposed, the ^'' Epistle " Itself is in very generiil
teruis. It merely atta forth that *^ the Aiithor*3
coodition beiag at present on a Level, and the
Basis of hlB former Fortune ovorthrowii, to get
elear of the Dilemma, and prevent his future Inter-
ment in the lluinis ; Hmubly takt^s, leuve to Dedi-
cate thi;3 small Poem (the Otfispring of a Peony-
less Mu.'ie) to your kind Acceptance '*; ami then,
of the dediaiteo, that, '^ believing the »Spirit of
(inodneas and true Humibty resides in your
Generous Breast, a^ a Rich Geniiii in i% Noble
Oftflcate, he (the Author) is eneourajj^d to Lay this
the aforesjiid 3rat at your Hospitable g.tte/'' kc.
Sir John Mainwaring, of Peover, in Cheshire,
jiucceeded kts jiither im second baronet in IGSD,
and died 1702, which fixen the date of our author's
llourishintf, coniirmed ns it iii by the appearance of
nap.^r and type and geneml get-up. My cop}%
being di^ified untb a fair cover and p:ilt edges,
miifit have been the very copy used to dniw upon
8ir Jobn*B purae. Nothing but such mi intent
caa e%pkin its being thought worthy of such
jidomment.
Can it be that both Anderson ind Audley were
partners in thia ingeuioua system of begging/
The " H. A.*' on the title-pa t;e^ the blank ^pace
for the name of the "Honoured" patron, and the
circumstance mentioned by Lowndes^ make it not
improbable. If ^o, neither of tlieni mny, after all,
have been tbe author. The '' Poem " wtw, per-
haps, boDghfc complete from some beg^injj- letter
writer. The ^ammar and diction of the ** Epistle "
are siiBpieioUB. No doubt there were "sereevera of
fakements " in London two hundred yerirs agt).
H. A. 8.
BrendsftUj Derby.
_l' "Sons of tkb Cleiioy/*— The following; extract
tfom an entry in one of the Patent Ho Us of
Edward L m not without interest: — ** Amic" Jil'
maj^dstri Huf*onis perdinnre ccclesiiw de Hones-
worth'/* Whether *'Amic*" was a son or a
daughter cannot be decided by means of the entry
ifcselit But the important potnt^ the pnteraity of
the panon, is quite clear.
The above is the only decided instimce which I
have met with of pjirsomc paternity in the Patent
Holla. There are plenty of such descriptions as
" Kobertuji filius Petri clic^," in which it is doubtfid
irt ether " Kobert Fitz-Peter, clerk," or ** Robert,
ifon of Peter the clerk," is intended. But *' Hugh,
the parson of Honesworth,'* mu*l hare had a i
or daughter, real or putative. F. B. H.
Merton, Surrey.
RAC*MA3r*9 RoLLi OR Rbw«. — A» ihh phr
used so often in early English lit ^
not, I believe, been of late years i
quote Archbishop UdaJ's explamr
his translation; in 1542, of Enmtuus
** In th« time while the Triumuirat'
Lt^ndtu, and Antonius, all three i
thempire of Home iu tli»ir Liisjd^H n* lu ,
Au£u»tuB had written a gi
be *oung on PoHio in dt i
naxne. At the same timt, \h
hold toy p«aee. For it is i
mnter of iupOf to write riih'
persone. in whoie handea it lielh iq write ft m»ti oirt
ttU that euer ho Imth."
'* There waa in Compania a toune called Ft**
the first hihabltaunteB whereof issued from the AlLr%i
ffis*S>r?/tw^ reporteth). In this toune was first imij
the ioylitee of minatrelfie, ftt*d fingyng merit «m
rimeB, for makyoir J&ughter and ^porte at ntarrij
like aa i» now vsed, lo syng eoages of t}'^ V
Xunne, with other temhiablo merie ie^:
:tnd other fea^tyngres. Afid theie »ot:
cause their oricinttll bcginnyng i- i
wcr called in Latiiie Frscmjiina
rt/thiuif or Ver^jt. IMifche I doc .. -
ing to our English prouorhc) a rtgT at, l
bille. For so dooe we call a lon^ itttc, i^th (
any pcrfono by name, or touebeth & b^jdtua huaestee '
fiomewhat nere.**
The above k Utken from a sheet * f '
the edition of LM>4, which Mr. J
of Boston, Lincolnshire, has now it
for which, I tmst, he win lind 2
among the readers of '* N. & Q." Ti. . ;a
ciuainl and intereating. F. J. FmsiVALl*.
Mari' i-JiTEKX np Scots: **PARTir/— Th<
a very geneml prejudice against the word "* 1*
need for a peraoa ot individual,
imagine, in the use of it by a t.
buaineas men, who seek to give ^ h
mystery to their mther commonpUc** h
I was suqirised to find the word us. . "
in a copy of a letter written at Invr
by Mar}' Queen of H
gentleman^ by nau
purpose of giving inui
beneath him. The Qiie*
you aduertisement . , . b» ■ ...^ j < ..
to be of the stewartis blude, . * .
your self to na party in mareaw \\\
and quhill we declair our opi
your self tharanent.'* The ora_
letter h said to be in the possession of the :?hci»ff|
Clerk, Kirkwall. Alex, Futmxrsso^,
[The Queen may have intended Taionj '*\(f "p^'J
B0R1AL8 IN AN ErECT PoSITIOJf.— T^
ha^ often been referred to in the pages of
KOTES AND QUERIEST
\n\t to the best of my belief " the reasoa why " has
titver been gntlsfjictoriljr accounted for. I can
j^dfjri no reu*on cxceot a desire for u peculiurity
in the mode of sepulture. The Clapharas and
Muuleverers are ^aid to Jiave been interred in thi&
lu&DDer in Bolton Abbey; and in 1S58» the vault
of the Powlettfi, Barons Bolton, in Wenaley Church,
in YorktUire, beinpr openecl for a burial, I entered
it, ftnd saw the leaden coffin of the Marchionees of
Winchester in an erect position. It waa placed at
the east end^ and on Hh top was deposited a sinidl
leaden case conUitning the heart. She wa» a natural
daughter of Kinanuel, Lord Scrope, Earl of Sunder-
land, and brought the Bolton estates into the
Powlett family by her marriage with Charlest
Marquia of Winchester, who was created by King
WilUaiu IIL the first Duke of Bolton.
Janit PicKFORD, M.A-
Ncwboame Keciory, Woodbridge«
[We must request correfpondenti desiring information
on famijj m&tt«rA of otdj prirftte interest, to affix their
xkionei and addrei««i to ihmr queriei, m order thut the
I m^ be addrewed to them dimet.]
Jjlmes PtKKCK, 1726* — In a recent ponigraph in
Libc Tim€4 it was stited that there was a dispute
j in lT-2i1 sEinil.ir ia that raised now as to the rij^ht of
I a T> *.QT to the title of " Reverend " t
'li- - , - , ,,:^L.mtcd Presbyterian tiiinistcr, Jaraei
ect tbe founder of Unttarinnbm in tike Wcft of Eng-
p was interred in the cbnrcbjard of St. Leoaard'a,
The rector dteapproved, in tbe fu*8t initance, a
Bfiption^ which bad been written for tbe tomb-
I WM then propofed to euhsititute tbe simple
fttenee * Here ]lie» tbe r«Terend, learned, find piou^
[ Mr. J«Tnc8 Pierce * ; but of thit tbe rector diaapproved
**■■-■'■- '^ ■^ \Ii., Pierce was not revereiKl, for be
ined; not learned, for be was not n
iveruity, and not pioufcf, f*»r be taught
fix^Orl niivts. AUf therefore, thit vt%a allowed to bo
rlbed on tbe Kood man's gmre wa« ' Mr. James
e"8 tomb, 172a- '*
Wbrre can I obtain any further genealogical
-* f -'. rs of this Mr. James Pierce, and what rf-
^ he to ** Samuel Eyles Pierce^' a famoiiH
._.-„.. .i of Honiton, related to the Chilcotts of
|Kxeter, bite preacher at Ebeneiier Meeting in
[Truro, Cornwall, author of i>wcoi(rst>' om ihcLonrs
'^vpptr^ published I79C ? R, J. Ftkmohe.
Shei*ley.— The song wliich commeiic6&—
*• I rise from dreftmi of thee
In the flr»t iweet Bleep of uight/'
by Percy B. Shelley, is entitled Lina (o rtn Indian
liA Where in the air to be found I
O. A. Ward.
' PADt»y.** — I suppose that tliis derisive appella-
-i of onr Irish brethren, like *' Sawney " (Alex-
' ol 08 Scotch, k a mere abbreviatioD of
Patrick, the aaint of their country, I would in-
quire when it first appears in this fomi, I have
been led to nuike this inquiry from finding the
name anion;; the witnesses to a charter of Affrica,
daughter of Ed^ar, in the reign of William the
Lion (11 65- 121 4) J ii^nting to tbe Abbey of Mel-
rose " unam quartam partem plenarie viUe in
territorio dc diinseor " (Liber de Melros, No. 199),
Among the witnesses are found "GiUenberet filio
padi^ padi Mac Cunig/' and the other witnesees
are *' Johanne Slacduftbij Giilcristo, filio GOlennil,
GUlid judice." They seem all to be of Scoto-
Irish extraction. Can any earlier example than
the above >>e given 1 C. T. Rahaok.
Henry Hyde, of Purton, Wilts. — Can you
give me any particular.^ relative to the family of
the father to the celebrated Lord Clarendon ? What
were tbe arms of Hyde, of Purton I Lltsclts.
[Henrv Hyde iimrrted Mary, daugbter of Edward
Langford, cf Troi*brld>re. Edward Hjde, Earl i>f
Clarendon, inArri^d, in 1(^21), firstly, a dAughtcr of Sir
George Ayliffe, Wilts, wbo died six months after mar-
rift;;e ; secondly, in 1632. Francce, daugbtcrof Sir Tbonms
Aylesbury, By the Intter be bad six cbildren, four bu&b
and two dauglUerg. Henry, s^ecof>d Earl of Ckrendon,
died 170&; Lawrence, Earl of R<M!beater, died 1711;
Edward and James died unmarried ; Anne nnarried
James, Duko of York« and was tbe motber of Queens
Mary and Anne; Frances, married to Thomfts Kcigbtlj.
of Uertingfordbury. Lui^cr^fi desires to know whom
Henry and Lawrence married.]
Armorial.— There i» a coat of arms quarten^
by the Taunton family (I mean the Tfumtcns of
Hilfield), and I cannot find out to what family
they belong. The arms are^ quarterly, arg. and
gu.j live crescents counterclianged, one in each
quarter, and one in the precis middle point. The
curious part of it is that another family of Taunton
bears the armfi, quarterly » arg. and gu., /oiir
crescents cotinterchunged, very nearly the same at
the coiit quartered by us. I have long tried to
find out how we came bv them, but have failed.
W. G. Tauntox.
Grotesquk Mkdlkval CARvmos. — Is there in
English or French any sepamte work, or portion
of a work, devotecl t^ the subject of the grotesque
and satirical car\dng5 so common in the ecclesi-
nsticfJ architecture of the Middle Ages 1 It would
be of some interest to tind ont aho the connexion,
if there really wa^ any, of the Freemasons with
these carvings, I have taken pains to discover
some authorities on the matter, but ro far fruit-
lessty ; perhaps, however, some of your re^iders may
be able to refer to help me. A. O'C.
Ambroise Be^^kt, of Blxlstrook, Bucks. —
Who was this gentleman t He got into some
difficulties, politic^d or pecuniar}% in 1671, and
went to Jamaiwt, where he died soon after. His
wife was Rebecca, fourth daughter of Sir Thomas
348
NOTES AKD QUERIES,
HtimptoD, Kt., and AMonnftn of London, uho
rciunmed in En^jland, aod died in 16iK5. I strongly
suapect he waa a near rektive of Lord Arlington,
the tiotoriotid Miuister and Secretiiry of Slate to
Chiirle® II. J. H. CooKK.
pHiLoeopnicAL Fireworks from Ikflam-
iBLE Air. — In the Tima newspaper of the
17th of May, IHCK^, is an advertisement of ^Ir,
Cartwright's Exhibition ut the Lyceum Theatre in
the Strand, which nnnounces " A grund dif^nluy of
Philoeophieal Fire Work? from Inflamniahle Air,
that undergoes a variety of changeSj and produces
several thouj«tnd ttames. The whole without nmoke
or gun|>owder"; and also states that **The Theatre
will he illuminated by a most curious Aeroferic
Branch, which is lighted and extinguished in a
moment."
la anjlhing known of the means employed to
produce the effeets described f Gkoroe Ellis.
St. John's Wood.
Paul Jones's Action. — I have in my possession
a painting of much merit, representing thi^ des-
perate isea-fight, which took place iJi October^ 1779|
off Bridlington. Captain Pouraoo, of the ** Senipi.^* '
frigate, together with a ^loop adled the *' Countess
of Scarborough," defender! himself against three
loi^o American vesseb, sailing under French
colours, and couuuanded by the well-known Paul
Jones. The Jiction was of n most gallant chameter.
It was fought by moonlight, and kated many
hours^ during two of which the ** Berapia " fought
with the muzzles of her guns almost touching those
of one enemy, whilst another kept Bailing round
and delivering brotulsides. Captain Pearson did
not surrender until his ship was on fire and in a
sinking state, having lost sixty killed and many
more wounde*1. Can any reader of ^^ N, & Q."
tell anything of the subsequent career of the gnlhmt
Gttptain R. Peamon, of the *' 8empis " ?
E. ELToy.
Scots Greys. — Can any one inform me when
the 2nd Dragoons finat rode grey horsej^ and at
whiit dnt^ they bccnme familiarly known a« the
Scots Greys? In the records of the regiment there
i« not a scrap of information on the subject. Any
early information aliout the ** Royal Scots L»ra-
goons " will be thankfully received by me,
Gbo. Clkgiiorn.
13, PittTille Parade. Cheltenham.
The Old Roman Roads (Ermine Street), —
In Haydn's Dictiona'nj of Daki, 1868, the deri-
Viition of Ermine Street is thus given : "Ermin
Street, from Irnumsiil, a German word meaning
Mercury, whom our Genuaii ancestors wor^hipi^ti
, under that name/' In a small octavo volume of
he *'ltintnary of AiitnnihU)(^ printed for R. &
r poOaley, Ptdl Mall, 175G," the old rt>iMi **is
derived from Here, in Sax. an army ; and Herinan,
a soldier^ so tliat Herman St, h nothing e!»© but
a military wav," I should be glad to ' * '■
**N. &Q." ^vhich of the two der
more trustworthy, and abo where tli
map can be obtained with the olil
and stationa marked out on the BriL...^
F, d:
Nottingham.
SOM ASTER AND K ELI AND FAMlLIE8,^Gatt afi]
one lejimed in Devonshire geneulogie^ tell me
f here was any connexion between the fiUiiilie*
Somaster and Kelland, of Painsford, in Asl
prington ? Ly^ons says that the heiress of Somant
married a KLdland, but 1 doubt thi' •- '^ f f*
statement. The Sonuviter^ were li 1
ford in !G34, when Dorothy, diii.^u... ^i
Samuel and Lady Frances, was baptized ; and ii
1679, John Kelland of Pafnsfoitl was iMiHt ,1 il
Afthprington, aged seventy-one. This J
land had married Susiiunah Fownes ; m
motheXj who umst have l^een married before
been a sister of Sir Samuel Somaster^ who
the Visitation in 1G20, when he had thi
and two daujjhtei's alive (who mny jdf hu
without issue), it is, at least, r ■
name does not occur in the StM
John Prouz, 1664. — John Pronz, of Cbagford,!
Devon, is stated^ on his monument in r' '^ -* '
Churchy to have been the last heir m
family, and to have died IDth M:'" '
he leave any daughters, and, if ho
they marry ; or did the re]iT« s*
ancient family devolve on his
Phiiippaj married Richard Con
in Laiiivet, CornwaU, Cth June, 1037 i
EDMtJND M. Bottfc
Kock Woodj Torquay.
Sir William Davenant*—
"The Inrk now leaTcs his wftl'rvnest.
And cliruhiag pbnkes lilt! 'k>vv wiflga;
He takes tbid window !■
And iu ioiplore your i ^s.
Awftke, awake, the nmrn «iii iitvtr rise
Till flhc can dre-as her bci^uty at yuur etci.
The inercl>ant bo^ ' ' n'sttar.
Hut Ktill the lovi I I cy are
Whu look fur duy Utur^ Ltd tui&tr«ti waket.
Awake/' kc.
I have seen the above beautiful lin*
Sir William Davenant. Are they
in what edition of his works aa^ tliey lo ii* Utii
If in one of his plays, in which ? CD.
Mrs. Mart Lutwyche.— Is anything recorile
of this hwiy, as to whom I fin-^ " ^' ^" ^ the" "
iqnery^ when did he die 1}
tSupplcnunt to the LittratuTe a:
1856, p, 26 : she waa "among the nolablea of i
S»8.ItOcT.31, Tt]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
349
^]i.- }vm\ -ilwivs moved in the i^v^x -u iety,
Ljn coiirta, wht?a presen-
'i» ntiw . . . ii good lingnist
. . c^ i herself by her trjuiftljitkm of
''a, and also of the Chevalier
^Isgekeia (*tc^ Trav<U in Swcdrn^'F
Both thei*e w<jrks ure by the same uuthor,
niely^ P. M. L. de Bouplin tk Kaultt. The
Bt 15 entitled Anckfit and Modtnt Malfit , . ,
' 1C8 . . . 1H(>4 ; the second, Travfh
rk and Swidtit ... in two volumes,
, iHMM in riuurto, Hnd no mention is mude of
clog tmnsiiitions.
I works were published onginally in EnjCflisb,
1 pre.sume 5lrs, Lutwyche tmnalated from
(jUn'j* luiinuscript. But what nuthority is
for th(» J They were afterwiirda tmnslnteil
"French, and published in France (Quemrd,
r Trnncf Litttraitt),
Virih idin will be found in th© Bio^aphual
^ IRIG, and in VfniVn Bibhothfca
'. Both give incorrect and abbreviated
ages, hut the works thetnselves are in the
I Libmrj- at the British Mu^ciiw-
Tna Mrs. Elizabeth Lutwyche, who published
k€ Ihokm Vttsc in ISltJ, any relation of the
>^ Olphar Hambt.
* B*met, Hert», N,
I Office and British Museum. — What
i Catalogues of the Records in the above
X.
jt .,..., r ,^^. — Would somebody kindly translate
ng into heraldic English ?—
,"U\ A un 6eu d'&r{;ent en cteur atuc bfttoni
tftsey d'or pa^sor en croix ct uii B&utour^ et far t«
«nt &u ciiTftlier armt de sable/'
Otto.
' A Tax : " Kuper^s/'-^
**T\im(^ who contHlmte to the tiuc
Ofi tea, aud chocolate, and wax. *
:T ' hut *'ttix" ' I tJe?
\n a Ih yitfr
'^'w,^...^ uY n <' ' [ in
?52. In the same . !e of
bygone nlacc of 4.,..,,.^u.. ui, Imj^h.. ^. Im
i known wnere this place wfis f
E, Walford, M.A.
I H&snpfieftd, N.W.
N'. — It is said that there is a
rn (it ij5 (.•ailed a Glastonbury
^ tdnight on Twelfth
I ishouM like to
I.. ■» -M ^..-viiit^d for, whether by
Arr there other thorns havint^ n
r? T. C. U.
iCOA^D BRltTLKT, THE MaSTER OF TRHnTT.
SLnj of your refuiern inform me whether
tt pedigree of the family of Kichard
Bentley the critic ext.int, and, if so, where it ca i
be consulted i I think I have jieen it mcntione I
that there is a family of the same name descended
frotn him, now existing in Yorkshire. ^.
Royal Chaplains. — Is there any register of
the appointmenta of clei^men to be chaplains to
royal and noble persons ; if ko, where I The appoint-
ments of chaplains to the sovereign are^ I itssiuae»
recorded in the Lord Chamberlain'* Department.
OcB. Cog,
GIPSY NAMES.
(S*** a i. 325 ; ii. 222, 294.)
With the same idea n% Mr. Groome, Dr. Smart,
of IVl {inch est er^ and myself were led to make a
similur collectioo. The results did not equal our
expect;! tions. In tbi^ countTv we fiiul^ in 15<>6,.
Anthonius Gawino (Simaon, Hutortj of tht Qxinici^
London, 1865, p. D8) ; c, 1512, Giles Hather and
Queen Kit Calot (Samuel Rid, AH of JaggUng,
UM2) ; in 1540, John Faw, Sebastiaue Lalowa, An-
teane Donea, Satona Fingo, Nona Finco, Phillip
Hatseyjjgaw, Towla Bailyow, Grasta Neyn, Geleyr
Bailyow, Bernard Beige, fiemeo Matakalla {or
Macskalla), Notfaw Lawlowr (? Lalowe), Martine
Fenunc (Sims., ini); in 1541, John Faw and
Sebastiane Lnlow (Sims., 106') ; in 1546, Phillipe
Lazer (Archa'ohgiaj xviiL 127) ; in 1549^ John Ro-
land and Babtist, Amy^ and George Fawe (Lodge's
Illustratwn^ of British Hi^tom^ L 135); in 1554,
Andro, George, Robert, Anthony, and Johnne
Faw, Andrew George Nichoah, Gt'orge Sebastiane
Colyne, and George, Julie, and Johnne Colyne,
James Haw, Johnne and George Browne (Sims.»
lo7) ; in IB24, Helen and Luoretia Faa (Sims.,
U8). On the Continent the earliest examples are
Michael, Andreas, Zindelo, Panuel, Johannis, and
Pctrus (Hoy kind, Histortoil Surx^ey of the Otu-
toms, t^c, of tht Gipsies^ York, 1816, p. 57).
The present tritxil names are simply the com*
mon surnaTiiea of their adopted country (see
Putt, I)i '-" . &c.» Halle, 1844, i. 51 ; for
French t r .>ig Guuk, Paris. 18G7, iL 1 113^
1120 ; fur v.iiijuui Gipsies, Liebich, Die Zigewier^
Leipzig, 1863, r»p. 80-iX>; for Turkish Gipsies,
Paspati, Lfs Ta(inghfant% Constantinople, 1870,
p]>. fii?^^-6rU ; fur Itulifiu Gipsies, Aacoli, Zigcim*
cri^^hti^, Halle, l>Hfl5, pp, 128, 129). In En^d m-1
wo find Boswell, Coo|)cr, Heme, Lee, L
^tjinliv. T.ivlrjf, Young, &'c, (see Cnibb, i :
(U^ London, 1832, p. 4S ; Harriot,
/r ^}it Oriental Origin of the Bom-
iiicfuil, IvovU Asiatic Soc. Traru., London, 1830,
p. 522 ; HoyLind, sujyra, 1G5, 1S4-5 ; " N, & Q.,*'
4^ S. iii. 4<J5, 4C1). The English tribe Winter is
extinct (Hoyland, 94). T\k Va^ txTrd-^tit— ^
350
NOTES AND QUERIES.
pugilist — is immortiilized by Hood in his ode to
Spring. There is a Geniian tribe of Winters
(Lieb., 90). In Scotland we find Fm, Oonlon,
Blyth, RutliYen, Sic, (SimB., 117; HojLmd, 94;
" N. & Q./' 2"J S. xi. 190) ; m Ireland, Docherty,
McCurdy^ l^IcCUoskey, McGnire, McKay {Sims,,
3/>8) ; in Wales, Jonas, Roberta, Williams, Woods.
These names were probably a^auuied soon after
the Gipsies* iininigrutioD, from owners of large
eftUtes on which particular hordes usually en-
camped (Borrow, llomi^no Laiv-lilf London, 1874,
p. 227), or from prnte^itors of the proscribed mce
(8ima., 117, note). ^lany of these names are
TougUy rendered into Eoumnes (cf. Sims,^ Slf^.
An old gipsy's account (qmtntum val^t) of these
tribal names is not devoid of interest : —
**Thc Hertiea and Bo^wells is the oldest fanitly. The
Lcci ttTO only two hundred jean u family. Thev »re
nixod nigger Mid Bengauleraa you can flee by their hlnclc
fa^es &nd curly hair, and the Bontellg has loug Rtrai>i^ht
buir, men aod wamoti. The Stanleje ain't real ^'ipaiee.
They origined, I tbiuk, in Lr>rd Derby over there [p^tinitnK
m th« direction of Knowflky] about two hundred years Kgo
[cf, Sims., 177, notel The Smiths h Iri^b, biv. I mean
a« thoy came from Iro]and about two hundricd years OKf^*
bnt I bfllieve as they is a real old family— /o^rAo fiomajitf '*
[cf. BiniB.j 9S, noted
The foOowing records of ttotne of these names
are arranged chronolo;;ically :— IRfi?^ Robert Hem
iind Elizabeth BoKwell^ king and queen, buried ut
Camberwell^ Surrey {Blachvood'i Mag(mru\ xcix.,
article, Review of Simson'a Hutory of the (ripdcit);
Henry Bozwell, kmf^, buried at Wittering, Sussex
(Hubert 8mith, Tait J^i/«, London^ 1873, p. 52(i);
17ti8, James Bosvill, king, buried at Doncaster
(** N, & Q.,^' 4^ H, ill 5.57) ; 1756, Francid Heron,
king, buried at Hartlepool (Blackwood^ v. supm) ;
177ii, clothes of Diana Ijoswell, queen, burnt after
her fiineral {Aimual Ht^uUrj xvi.) ; 1774, Inverto
BoBwell, ktDg'a s^nn, buried at Calne, Wilts {Tmi
lAfcy 52t>) ; 1783, Asbena, daughter of Edward and
GreenleAf Boswell, buried at Stretham, Cambs.
"N. k Q,," 5^ S. I 129) ; 1780, Heniy Boswell,
king, buried at Ickleford, Herts {Tiu Farm Topo-
grapher, I ; i5efc **N. & Q.,'* 5^"^ 8. i. 212).
Their Christian names (sec Pott, i* 51-2) are
sometimes outlnndi.'ih, though generally euphonious.
Some seem traditiomd, but usually they are chosen
for their sound. A gip6V*s ear is captivated hy a
fine sonorous name, io the same way tbat his eye
is caught by the bright colours of a gay bandanna ;
c.^., on telling a gipsy, in answer to nis inc|uirjes
about tt watch chain, that it was made of Alum i-
ntuwi, he at once remarked, ** What a fine name
for a child!" Bibhciil name-s are especially in
favour with them, Mr, Borrow (Roniauy Bye^
f London, 1857, L 03-4) gives several examples of
jue©r gipsy names^ the mofstpeculiar being Culvato
Claude), and, feminine, Pakomovna, Sanpriel,
eviathan^ Clementina, Orlanda, Mikailia, and
(98) Tamo Chikno; also {Lavo4\l) ArtAros (Ar-
thur), Canairis, rinprrdla f ? Cinderella), Fenella (<
Vmntl^ Lieb., ^ i v-i^ La«ho (Lotiis)^ ~ "'
Nurilla, Sacki 221) AgamcmnAn,
Leland, English (tipyuf, Ivondon, 1S7^
Dighton, 58; Horfeni^, Horfcr (OrpH«Uii),
Knight, 247; Wacker, WackerdoU, 57?
Wantelo, 67*
Omitting those given by Mr. Gtioovis ('
Q.," rA^ S.'ii. 222), we have met with— tnWj
— Earth i, Bendigo, Bruce, Bvr-^'^v > tnr ..T^
(IJchovah), Kali, Xisha (Eli
(cf, Mnnxili, Tarh Gnirh, , ,.
Mansfield, Merifil (.' ^^e^ivale), 'M6tch>
(Timothens), O'Connor, Persuvius, M-
'Snbius f" a burning mountain, Sir," V
PhoBnix (abbr. Fennik), Biley, Sant^-Na-tl
(ITasso), Tobias, Trafidgar (abbr. " ^
(Tornapo, Borrow, Lavo-hl^, Wnll
'Westiirus (Sylvester) ; ?
Alma, A maline, Barbara, 1
(abbr. 'Leo da), Delia [t t'ohiniii, jum
Elderifa, EldorTa, EUaffa, Ercilhi (i -
Cilli), Eva, Floa (f Flora ; cf. Ff -
Laro-Ur}^ Gravaliux'i, Horentia, Jul
Kensilla, Leah, Lilla, Lurena, Minti
(Esmendda), Pamela, Ponic'ina, P
Bhurensa (jtbbr, Shuri), Srdm (abt :.
common amongst- the BozweUs, cf. 1'
Cifmr\}y SolivitUfc (for Solforino) ; B\im\
Union, t^rsub, ZQbB, and ZubL
H. T. Vmrtor.
MaiicheBt«r.
$od
hodft,
Shakspearb : Bacoh (5*»» S. ii. 16L)— I few
Ma. Ward's remarks on this subject an >-i -i- ^
give a weak-minded reader, or even
worked student, an attack of ^v.t^ru <
no proof of Bacon ever bavin;.
Shakfpeare, and yet would ni: ; .
*' B&con fieri psit fabuUi, 6hak«fpe&re vortit bverlort/
How could *' the attribution of plays groT,
a llteniture ** ? The "attribution" midu I.
subject of a number of works sufficii
(which is far from being true) a li-
sense of that word. As for the word " m
ner sc^ I doubt that it is English. If it
lute fact that Jansen did fashion the p
why go out of the way to say thftt it >s v
such an artist did do so ? Mo\'
traits enough to prove that th
speare suggested (1) Genius, {"j) i.
and gentle blood ? How anyone
ideiis, fancy, and philosophy C'S *^
j^peare from the mnguage, I
had always thought that tht :^j -..i^.
merged in the language, that ? jujuimm
was quite hidden, like the ^^iL-..^, . aaUiTt, froBB
our weak mortal sigbt. A proof of tliii is the
B«» an. OCT. 31, 71]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
lonie dullness of any pamphnise of the hne poA-
' ' i^eiire. As Mr. Ward huB refused
conviction on this point until he
iiiiiim- iri^ nature (rin ambiguous expreatiion),
kiTgunicnt, I fe<in will be lost tipoo Him. On the
jt. I n ,, ti,.* ^\^Q **many" will prefer **the
■ y of Scblegel" (!), atid the
t T'nlcridge," who ma.y well cry
ads. I observed Bevcnd
I , IS iu Mr. Wabd^s paper,
«eatence '*A poetic soul vibrates Ian-
^, . , . touch." I was not aware that in
vibrate was a transitive verb. Poor
^ t with in six words, and then we Imve
liologicai expreusion the " birth i^sue of this
;e act,"^ A logiwd mind would be incHued
inAt€ hirih and acl, T\Tiat "vibrtvtorj^
»nd *' the sublijne sioger to the aaivcraal
I know not.
ler is nothing if not oonstnic-
Vfeature to adviiic Mr. Ward to
Aristotle's treati^ on poetry in the original,
Ibcre he will see a good conception of Homer
Homer's constructive and dramatic |>owcrs
his chief beauty. With the buld materioJs
w Btoriee of adventure and war, he has pro-
two splendid tragedies, in which the plot ia
and the episodes managed, wito Ibe
it judgment. What does this gontleman
[pan by " He tlflshea a 3CX) year oM tale '' I
lately the non-Bible element in Milton far ex-
dn the Bible element.
Whrit does Mr. Ward moan by "vibrate in
< the harmony of the gpbere"? What ia
nee between a prophet and the suspicious
'* a ^*ati dilator.^' 1 fear Byri:)n conveys to us
of the mttsic of the Devil thnn the muaic of
Finally, I would note the tautology involved in
for fver after with an dtnial glory."
I perhaps, be mainUiiued that much leiirn-
,^ ^, ... miike Mr. Carlyle nmd, but surdy hiii
imitatom are oot subject to the same caiiee.
Bx«(cr €(»t]fiise, Ozfotil*
** BiuTisH AMD Continental Titles of
Honor K'' (5»* S. iL 23,95, 105,)— C. S, X. iind
Misv ['K\ru_K fail, I think, to see my point.
\ij r.ntrfjhi.n is simply this^ that ** political (or
nobility " ia the only nobility known to
iintnon Jmw of Engknd. I speak under
■^ ' \ e aivrays undenftood that it is
i<^ of the heraldic theory of
' ' "" art? equal, i.r. "j^ecra."
it theory, any aniiiger is
... . ..rliivment. But the kw of
^■8 that the fnimgrr is not the peer of
Therefore I conclude that our law does
the heraldic theory of "nobility of
blood.'* I may clench the argument by remarking
that Mjss Pkacocic ia misiiiken in supposing that
it is neccHt<ar>' to be a member of the House of
Ijords to be entitled to trial by that House in a
case of felony. Scotch and Irish non-Tepre«enta-
tive peers, feumlepoci^, peers un^b r >- n possess
this privilege. Again, it is vim mt to
observe, tliat if a peeress by m ^, :use her
huBbatJii and innrry a commoner, she loses also all
priviliL.; I'T r*t vrr i.'o 'Co. JAtLj 16 b). But if a
ail- a baron, she continues a
dun ys Blackstone, quoting this
paijwage of Cukv'j*, '* all the DobUity are parAs^ and
therefore it is no degradation." I admit that the
pfissage cited by C. S. K. and Miss Peacock from
the Sirond liiMitntts is diflicult of interpretation ;
but I refuse to «dmit even Lord Coke as an
authority .ag^iinst him.selfj and in contradiction to
elementary principles of law. The law of England
no more recognixes the nobility of a " gentleman
in bbod" than it recognizes the title of the Arch-
bishop of Wejstminster, or (to take C. B. K.'s
ilhistration) than the modem French law recog-
nizes the nobility of the old vohkssc. C. S. k.
may, if he pleases, say that, for all that, the
** gentleman in blood " possci^ses ^* real nobility/*
I nave no wish to dispute such a statement. I
would oulyoWn'e that a "nobility" carrying with
it no h^lil privileges, and, indeed, carefully ignored
by the law, sceuw to nie to be imaginative rather
than " real,'* and, at tiny rate, to bt of very little
practical importance. Middle Teuflar.
Bradford,
Bealk : Baillik : Bai.iol : BArLLEiTL (5* S.
ii. 186.) — Mr. Braj^r is, in my opinion, incorrect
in bis theory attributing the origin of the Norman
name Bajio'l, or Bsdteul — a town in Norm.andy —
to Baal. The origin would appear to me to be
Balliuuij the r.,iitin equivalent in early English of
Bailey, or Baily, meaning the bailey or ballium of
a castle, and from whence we get our term "bailiff,"
as applied to the officer who formerly kept watch
and ward over castle gates and approaches, a por-
tion of which WH^ teimed either the ballium or
bailey ; hence Old Bailey in London, situate in the
old London wall, and evidently a postern gate in
that wall, with its ballium and watch-tower ; or
the badey street at Castle Acre, in Norfolk, or at
Cardiff, in connexion with the old walls of the
Cfistles at these places. That the Nonnan name
of " De Buliol " and the early English name of
" Le Baily " were synonymous, is proved by refer*
ence to the hii^torieal MSS. recently published by
the H. M>^>^ r,ii,nrjirs., in which, under the head
of Balli' there appeara, that in an obli-
gation oif , [It, **PttiJlK'n de Bttlliol," rector
of th^ Church of Mitfor liumberland.
In a further grunt to 1 J lege, circa 1283,
one of the witnesses to the deed of (pft wai
mak
MMk
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5'8. n. 0ct.«,T4
i
" Stephen de Biiilly," risctor of tkt Church of Mit-
ford.
Again, in a third document, dated Tuesday
before the feast of St. Mar gar d the Virgiii, a.d.
1283, the above uiun m described tis Stephen de
Eure> ftcior of tht Chvrch of Miffm-d,
I may mention that the family of BaiUieSj of
Jerriawood, ctiLim their descent from the Baliol*,
although thiit descent has never been fully eatiib-
liahed.
It may likewise be mentioned that the Buliob
were lordu, for a short time, of the Honour and
Castle of Mitford, in Northumberlimd,
In the.^e hifltoricnl M8S. (Balliol College) a
query arises, whether John do Baliol, who even-
tually miirried Devorgilda, daughter of Mnri^aret
le Boot, and Alan, Lord of Galloway, hi\dprtHomltj
been married, ioasmuch aa an expression in one of
these MSB. would lejid to this conclusion, and
which 1 recommend accordingly to the genealogists
of to-day, thus ; In a small parchment deed in
Latin, whereby Stephen de Euer (or De Baliol
elsewhere in tliese records), rector of the Church
of Mitford, binds himself to the Scholars of BjiIHoI
Colle^, and to ensure payment under thia obUga-
tion, and olfens the aecurity of Sir Hugh Kuer (or
Eure, Eu, Ew, or Buliol, under idl of which alifj^ci
this Hugh elsewhere appears ia the Ballinl College
records), ** his brother by his father s side.'*
If my conjecture is correct, a good deal of mys-
tery as to the family of John the founder, with
bis wife Devorgilda, of ** Balliol " or ** Lu Bailly '*
College, ttkiy be cle^tred up. Ja8. E. Hcott.
The Imperial CoKSTANTiniAir Oimen of St,
Georqk (S"* S. ii. 200.)— As there app^aus to be
some confusion on tht.s subject, perhaps some of
the readei^ of *'N. & Q/' may be able to furnish
an accurate list of th«' various works treating of it.
By ** the Inte Prince Comnenus Palfeologus,** is
Prince Pala^ologus (so-called), who died ktely at
Turin, meant ? S.
Chancels Placed WEfirwARo (5«* S. ii 288.)
— A curious question arose in India many yenrs
ago about the jil.ncing of chancels, t, e. on Dr*
Middleton^ the first bishop, being appointed. It
was thin, that if the chancel were placeil to the
ea^t, it did not face Jenisalem, but the reverse.
It was^ I believe, solved by tlie f?ttpf osition, that
the orienLation of the clKtncel did not rpfer to
JerusrtleiD, but to sometliing else, but I for^ret
Mhat. The chancels, therefore, in our Indian
churches weix? then built, as they have been since,
facing the east. ' CiviLis,
GfiORaB IV. {^*^ S. il 267.)— In a westero city
in which I was born during the Regency, it wiis
currently believeil that a landowner of the neiftb-
bourhood was the king's son, the mother being a
inarrwd woimm. Of course there were details of
the liaison which it is not desinibje to reproiluodj
DOW. A peerage given to that l.indownet 9a\y
setjuent to the death of George IV. did but OOO'
firm the long previously current story. When,
nearly forty ycarts since, I lived in the Gity^ it wna
believed by the commomdty that an eminent
brewer of London Wiis a sou of George IV. I]
each of the two cases, personal likeness was hrli
to confirm the popular story* C W. E.
Ever Inquisitivk was probably ven
informed '*that it was a mistake to maji
George IV. died without illegitimat4? chiidrfu.''J
I personally knew two reputed sons by ditfereTiil
mothers, one a pious colonel in the Army, and thtl
other a midshipman, or perhaps clerk, in
Boyal Navy. One is dead; the othrr may
alive. For obvious reasons, I cannot publi«lll
names. J. C H^
Home.
Seals in- Two Parts (5*^ S. ii. a08.)— Th«l
language of the charter is certainly very obscuril
(and apparently is not transcribed quite accurately) f|
but probably the meaning may be as your ror-
resiKJndent suggests, " that there were ( ^
the one larger than the other." The < *
Privy Seals used by the Crown may, pi*rJr»p% f-^
referred to as ** aimdar instances." T. J, A
CttAP-BooK Literature (4** 8. iv. 215.)— II
Mr. Kinoslrv still cnre^ (<• ^*^>-^ -i rutiv nf 7%ii
ATemjand Dinrtififj Etji' n/in]
(Stirliog, printed for the i , i willj
gladly lend him one, juat obtained, on receipt offtj
note to that effect. J. MAKrEL.
K^wciiHtld-upon-Tyne.
"There is ko (rtJTUHK) rAXo/* iK- ^^*''
2R5.)— The line* are from Byron's M
sc. i. ' l\l.., .. i.
**Thi8 world I DBEV," &c, {6^ B, ft. 30a>
Unless my memoiy plavs me fab
Mr. Preslet inquire:^ about are b ' iim
Bailey^ and I think from his FaUi^. it A. S.
Breadsall, Derby.
" Avon : a Poem in Three Part^,*
(5*^ S. ii. 329.)^ By the Rev. .Trhri
Bohn's edition of Lowndes's Sh
t . .
"Tkrriclla*' (5** S. ii. 326} 'Ma a LnorW
turne<i into an exact 8p^ --^ i/ ,..--. i -
plated that its Poles and
to the Pides and Eijuatot ui ..,,. — . ,
Ihrfionm^t, MoRTiMtrn CoLusrs.
Kuowl liiM, Berks.
Who wrot« **TnE BrTTBnrr.T'* Bali<'T(5^
8. ii* 327.) -It may interest Z. Z. to know that
have the best living authority for believing thai
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
iUustmtionn to this little work were by Mul-
if. li it not proLobk tkit Wiiliiuii Gtitlwui,
tttlreadj^'tt nlly tit tliiti perioil, wrote the tt?xt^ us
DO limi written tbut tjow-very-»ci*rce biogrivpby
The LookiuQ dim, i*>ndon» 1805? F, C». S.
tUer ffipbea on Uiia ffubject irilt appear next week,]
fWNEMOKJC Caulk DABJ» (5*^ S, L passivi ; ii.
Time b*lKj mf lonl & wnHet at bit b«ck
"*'bcrfiii he put« atms for oblirion,
grot six«d monster of ingr&titadet.
^ iMif*pi lire good deeds pwt, wbich arc do vour'd
^t M thoY are iciade, fortrat aa toon
y not " N. & Q." bo likened to this wallet,
according to Ulyasea, Time htitb at bi»
/ Upwnnis of a score of years ago, wben I
k contributor to the Fmi Series, I took some
ith a Mental Almanac, as old a^ Venemble
hich I expliuned and nnxiitied to embrace
cnicjt, all years, all centuries, and all varieties
Old ivnd New Styles ; and now, in 1874, af^er
" ' a bundrt'd volumes of " N. & Q." bave been
ibJi^bed, I bave encountered by accident the
en by y i- nt Cakl Dean to
that von Almanac of all its
uref , in - . ; i m n i m.i: a wort bless diput
of bifl VI . lie would divide by 4 all
figures oi li ii,tu% add tbe result to the
d divide the whole by seven ! I did tbe
Ipon thf tvv hut fi/fvrcs of the date only,
ferenee hem<^ tbut whi»rciiH not one person
Mnieand woubi or com Id perfonn those pro-
trpon four iigures witbout writing tfiem
>rcely one in a thousand would bave any
slty in doing «o u[n>u ft'O fibres. Next,
of g^oinjLjf direct to the month required, be
lOt g*t to any month without first bavlng
rurwp in Junuary. Lastly, be maket* no provision
'iturieSj or change of atyk, except
d preference for the eighteenth
' '1 add 1, leaving all tbe
selves.
M. 1. ,» lUiit, if Carl Dean bad
1 the Almanac of Venerable Be^ie,
.., [lUt bi« own bald and imperfect
|aU«txi|ii in competition witb it ; and yet it is
hiuM e«juiJjv .liili'ult to reconcile tbe simUar
I tbe-ie two lines :—
1 imd Vulcuttne'a day,
k^JiXi q{ FcUuuy, a&d of MaFcb» and tbe Gunpowder
dny.*'
A. E. B.
Oti^mtcy.
iw^ — I t\ .*.._. f^f (,,j, „ij cO'rretBondent.
Hvil) bo found in *' N* ii, Q.*'
:.ld
.-.►lotixo (4^ a ii. 4; 5»^ B, II 1!>3.)-Rti.b-
turucJ writepH tell iM llmt '*iiMei?3!ing wan a mortal
tUfpi oven froni tbe fimt iium tuitil it was taken olf
by tbe i^pecial fiupplication of Jacob. From wbence,
ad a thankful ucknowled^mcat, this salutation firat
begiin, and was after continued by the expi'esBion
of Tobini Cha iim, or vita bona^ by standers by,
UDon all occasions of sneezing " (see Buxtorf, Lex.
Uialtt). Aristotle mentiona tbe omen^ ** why
sneezing from noon to midnight was good, but
from night to noon unlucky." And the ancients,
says St. Austin, *' were wont to go to bed again if
they sneezed while they put on their shoe," Eos»,
in his Arcana Microncitmi^ says : —
'* Prometheui was the firft that wi^ht well to tbe
lueezeTj wben the man, which be had made of cluy, fell
into a tii of «t«smuUfctioM upon the approach of itiai
celestial £Lre which he Hole from the «un. This gave
original to that costome among the Geutiles in saluting
the Bneeser. They ueed al»o to worship the bead in
gtcruutation, ai being a divine part and seat of tbe aemet
and cogitation."
A writer in the Gtnt. Mag, (ApriJ, 1777) informs
U8 that " the year 750 is commonly reckoned the
era of the custom of saying * God bless you ' to one
who happens to sneexe. It is said th:it, in tbe
time of the Pontificate of St. Gregory tbe Great,
the air was filled witb such a deleterious iniluence
that they who sneezed immediately expired."
Pliny inferred that to sneeze to the right was
considered fortunate ; to tbe left, and near a burial
place, the reverse. Creech^ i^a bis translation of
the eighteenth I dy Ilium of Theocritus, mentioni
the custom r—
'' O bappy brideeroom ! Thee a lucky oieexs
To Sparta welcomed.'*
Again, in another Idyl bum : —
"Tbe Lovet tneezed on Stutchid."
It is said that when the King of ^lesopoiamia
sneezed, luud acclamations were made in all parts
of bis dominions. Tbe Persians looked upon tbe
custom as being a very bippy one ; and tbe
Siamese wished long life to all sneezers. There
waSf says Langley, in his Abridgment of Polydore
Vergil —
" A plague whereby many as they nceied dyed iodeynly,
wcrof ifcgrew into a ciwtome that they that were present
when anv man i ■ ' ' '^ tv ' G<id heipe you/ A
like deadly pla.- in vawrning, wherfore
metine uaed to t . %rtth the eig^i of the
croite: botht wUicU cu^tuiucs we reteyne ttyl at thla
day."
One finds a little relief bo ' in a good
hearty sneeze : as an old writi , ** two or
three neses be bolwm '' ; but -^ mtc so
often tnken witb such violent i that
they find it nee»e^ary to "-» • r n>
do it, in order to give iwV
A writer in the ^Wkh>^ - ; . s 15
his readers to perform tbe act in a veiy unpoiite
mxinner :—
** Wben run would sneete, strait turtle yoursetf into your
rieibour'R face :
As for nty part, wbtreln to tneeie^ I luiow no fitter
place;
mmmmim
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[5^* S, IL Oct.ffLlt^
It if an ordcTj frben you nieeze good men uriU pray for
jon;
M&rle him that doth bo, for 1 thlnke he 10 jmir friend
moat tme.
And tbiit your friend may ktiow who meczea, and may
for you pray,
Be sure you not forget to sneexe ftill in his face alway.
But when thou hear'st another sneeze, although he be
thy father,
Say not God bless him, hut Choak up, or some such
matt«r rather/'
Howd Hays {l€59), " He thnt liath sneezed thrice
turn him out of the hospital.'* Bishop Hall alludes
to the custom when Bpeiikini^ of n superstitioinj
person, "when Lg neeseth, thinks them not Mb
friend a that uncover not/'
W, Winters, F.E.H.S.
Waltham Abb«y.
Pennit ine to add to the passages quoted the
following from Herodotus and Aristophanes : —
" Kot ol ravra SteTro vrt €7rT}K$€ 7rTaip€iv re
Kal P^i^at fjLi(6vms Tj m toj^cc." — Merod, vi 107*
** «^>//i^^ y* vfxtv opvts (rrrif Trrapjutov t o/>i't£?a
KakuTtJ* — Aristoph, Av* 7'2(K
Eimc^HD Tew, M.A.
"Slekp>? like a Top*^ (5"^ B. ii. 2(m:), 220.)— It
is, I believe, of John Philpot Ourran that the
following anecdote is told. In his last illness be
wjta very restless^ and unable to sleep. His pby-
dcian gave him r strong sleeping; draucfht, and^
nfter ho hnd tnken it, said to him, *^ There, Mt.
Cnrran, now you irill sleep like a top/' — ** Ah,-'
said Curran, *' I know, Just as usual, keep on turning
round and round.** H. A» 8t. J. M.
In analysing popular sayings like the abo\^ we
muet not be so raatter-of-fuet aa to loftu sight of the
rough huuiouT wbitli underlies tbem. In *'To
sleep like a top,'* ** Dormir conime im mbot/'
*' Etrc Bourd comnie un pot," ** To be dead as a
door-nail," ** Deaf aa a post,*' i&c, the principle at
work l»^ I contend, a voluntary confusion between
absence and priiraUon. A logician would say that
» negative term (or idea; h considered m if it were
privative. Thus, i\. door- nail is Lifeless, and we
tiilk of it a« if it were dtnd, that ia, as if it had
loiit its life ; a post cannot hear, and we ti)M^ of it
as if it were atHicted with deafness. In attempting
to reduco these expressions to common -.sense we
destroy what little merit they have, H. K.
*' To HE WISE AFTER THE EVENT'* (5*^ S, L 409,
514 ; ii. 218.)^ — How eouminu a topic this was
may be illustrated hy the following additions to
the citations by Br. C. X. Ramaoe :—
fy€\$€v ^e Tf \fTj7rw9 tyvoi.
Horn.. ///, xrU. 32.
avTttp 6 S€^afi€vo^, ore Srj KaKop €i\*, cvoijtrc.
flciiod, Qp. €i dim, v. 79.
Ibid.'w. 20SL
Soph., ^A%.« r V2T<><
/jtcyaAoe fif koy<n
fi€yaka^ wkffya^ tuii* vjrcpat*^ti>#
a7roTi<ran-€f,
yifp(^ TO 4>'pov€iv tSiSa^av,
*' Eveutuff ttultomm itte riia^eler eft**
F&biuf, Lir,, rxiL 39. |
** Scro iapiunt Phrtgef/*
FettUB^ Cic.', Fttm., vit,, Ep. HL^
Ed. Marshall. ^
Sandford St, Martin, Oirford.
This proverb may be traced back a little 1
than to the end of the sixteenth eentnry. Ua
the form ** Post mala pnidentior," it occurs in the-
'* Epitome chilia^lutD adagiorum Emetiu Roterdami. id
commndiorem atudioaorum usuni per UnxlriuTittm Bir-
landum <;on»cripta. Basilea; Anno mdxxviu."
It is twice cited at p. 55, and again at n. 5J)5.
JoHXso^ Bailt.
Fallion Vicarage.
The Italian form is —
" Delia sai:gcz£a di poi eon piene le fosa^/'
H. K.
Is A Chakoe or Christian Kamk P^jestnit f
(5"» S* ii. 248, 295,)— In accordance with r"
promise, I send vou an interesting ciise on it'
above subject, wliich occurred in 17<*7. ii i*
given in Muskell's Monnmaiia liitualia^ I>i*s/f-
tation, p. 218 :—
*^ I happen to pOflflesB fwrites Maskell] a Cemfnoo
Prayer Book (4to,, 1702). interleaved, and filled Trtih
manuscript not«s and ob*eriratu>n« by Di«ho|) v, tt:
Kenrict. He givea a case, Aince U1G2, very mucfi 1 • 1 '^
pniivt in question '. * Conftrmntiou mem. On -^'ir. . i
Dec. 21, 1707, the Ld. Bp. of Lincoln confirmed a ;
Iwd in Hen* VII.'* Chapel^ who itpon that cercnufti'v ♦.*.>
to change his Christian name; and acct^rdini^lr Hj^
ppoiiior who preicnted him, delivered to tSi- Ri'-r «
certificnte, which hi* Lordihip *igned. to in
had confirmed eucli a person by ^uch a i:
order the pnri^h minister, tlien pretent, t<<
person in the Pariali Book under that nanjr
done by the opinion, undprh'imch of Sir fidwu
and the hko opinion "' ' ' if Justice Hwt, f
on the authority of 1 Ooke, who tftyi-
the Common Law of L ^ .
Maskell adds, with reference to the opinion of
Lord Coke, quoted by mo in mj previous com-
munication : —
"I am bound to remaj-k, that in tho cam gt««n W
Lord Coke (not knowmg the circumstance^^, we '
argue from the later one of White Kenn^tt the !
appeafi to have exceeded the auti '
ancient Canon Law would have nil jiivi
law permitted a name which bad beeti
to te changed, only if it was improper vi •>
'Attendant Mcerdotee. ne lascira nomina
mtttant parvulit ; et fii contrariuni fiat, per >
epibCopoB corrigatur/ But to change ?
J'ranciM conld only have ari*en from «oiiio
ference to another name; and fuch alone c»u^hi utitr
M
e»flLn.0CT.3i,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
355
to be ullowed u m Just region for ciMtiii]^ aiide, utterly
mnd for ever, « first nKme. in itself good Mid proper,
vrhicU hftil been ' «iiiictlfied/ &« Biihop Keniiet iAy«, in
the adimniatratioQ of tho B&cmntent of BaptUm."
The Bbbop of Lincoln, in 1707, was Wuke,
previously Dean of Exeter, and subsequently
Archbijihop of C{interbun\ E, C HARiKQToy.
The CIqm, ExeUsr.
Fletcher, Bishop of Worcester {6"* S. iL
228. 2i>a>— llie prejudice felt by Queen Elizabetli
agaiiLfit tho B^cond luiirriage of t letcher, Bishop of
Woitester, was not unreasonjible, seeing that; a
^i^comi marriage was regarded as "bigamy."
" ', in bis Htmains Concerning Britain^
of the nificriage of Edward IV. to the
vvju ' "^ ' ;: Gray, describes the opposition
of i r to the matcb^ on the ground
.Ki (Ijady Gray's) "widowhood
lent to restrain him, for that it wan
..,^.. .,..| — ^^cment to a king to be dishonoured
Willi bigamy m liis first marriage.'* E» fl. J.
"Sbot " AS A Termination (5**> S. ii. 149, 235.)
— All your correspondents aecm to think the
termimition referred to is not " shot " but " hot," a
corruption o{ ** holt.'* But is this so sure I Why
is the ** » ■' fdwAys prcfient t t^ hereas, when the
t^rmrnntfofi *' holt ' ap^jears, the *'8** seldom if
tvcr it. Then, ail the "holts" are in
wo«- ctf, but the "shots'* apply to liigh
L h<^ath V Luuui.^, chiefly reuiarhablc for a totid absence
fc©f tr^'es. In one instance at least the ** h '* is
plncod by " c " — Aficot .
the nHtiie.^ of some [
1 root — 1^1
Scotora *')»
HJl (J S J J UIj .'TXtrHU\ rl"
In Devon&hii'c some
vo at present a ttrmina-
spelt as *' sheat •' or
meed by the common
' 0. 0. B.
« ' the Ki-Nuti OP England ('i^^ S. i.
♦S*^ The regal crowns of England, from
Pe«rlj Uuu's to the present, are described and en-
igtwred in BoutelT* Hnaldri/^ Iliitoriml (tnd
Fopular. J. Woodward.
** ToK>oit.vrHiA Hibkrmca" OF Gift ALDUS
(Cambreksis (5"> S. i. 389 ; iL 54.)— In Mr.
\nnnal Report, for 1B73^ on Fac-
tonal Manu-*icripts of Ireland, photo-
.. At the Ordtmnce Survey Office, South-
I the Thirty-Fifth Annual Report of tho
ipr ..f the rublic Reoordu, ^L'vrch,
he give* a portion of the
IfT ^ men of Du Barry's style, —
1^4 T >rd-tjby, \m power of language,
am! I :— **i^ot the least entertaining
mmum^ thti tiubjecU of interest in this collection is
Uie twelfth century MS, of tho Topographia
Hihcrnka of Gerald du Bj\rry, preserved in the
King's Library of the British Museum.
BiBLlOTIIECAR. CHETnAM,
Cloostottn Familtt (5*^ S, u 208, 294 ; ii. 57.}
— The CloRStoun family are decidedly of 8ootch
origin. The pedigree must be in th^ Hendds*
C>ffic€. They are entitled to supporters. Arms :
Or, on a bend ^ules a ram pa,<^nnt ; on a
cAnton ermine, a demi-savaj,^, nude, holding a club
erect in the dexter, a chain in the sinister hand.
Crest : on a mount vert, an eafrle crowned, rising.
Motto : " Turria raihi fortia Deus.'* W, F.
*< Grkwe,^* i. r. Greek (6"^ S. ii. 204, 259, 274.)
— The derivation of greyhound ha« puzzled ety-
mologistii. According to the older and the younger
Xenophon, it seeni^ this species of dog did not
exist in Greece. The greyhound is perhaps of
Celtic origin.
Robert de Brunne, Chaucer^ R. Fraunees, Ed-
mund de Langley, William Brocus, Sir Chrii^topher
Warde, Baiue Julyana Berners, Dr. Caius, and
Stanihuist in Holinshcd, write grekound, or ^^et-
hounds
Calus, in his book Z>e Canibus Britannteii,
Londini^ Anno 1570, says : —
" A Gre quoqua, Grehunde ftpud nusti^s iavenitnom«tt,
qu/Kl previpui gradLU Inter canoe sit, ^ prim» generoii-
ttfctie. Gre ouim &pud nostro^ gradum deaotat/
Sir David Lyndsay .speaks of " Doggis in the
hyeat gre." Bellenden write* " grew." Harring*
ton, in his tran«lation of Orlando Furioso; GoldJng,
in hkOriW published in 1567 ; and others, **grewnd,'*
May not the name have been ori i;\nnl\y grthtind^
and meant the noble, ^?rcat, or choice hound ?
Dan«ey'e learned translation of the Crregeticus
of the younger Xenophon (publif^hed by Bohn,
1831) has an elaborate note on this subject. Per*
bans some of the contributors to *' N. & Q." are
able to thn[^w more lijifht upon it, and nienlion
early documents in which the name occurs of this
beautifully majestic, gentle, pn"Acefu!, surpassingly
awift, and courageous creature. By Canutes
Laws of the Forest no mean person was allowed to
keep greyhounds. Perhnps some ancient copy of
them exists somewhere. Geo roe R. Jesse,
Mr. Richardson's Can w Grains for th' n " ' ud
does not show that iti* origin was Grt • ro
than graioj Itah for l>adger, would 3h(»>v mc vnvjck
to be of Greek origin, unless we could make out
that everythinfj grnj was Greek, As Hosiod
(Wedgwood, ^»/ A rofv) says, *Hhe j^ratai were 80
called from being born with gray hair," — a most
delectable ftict. Or let us amuse ourselves with
canuM canii, greyhound. It is Minsheu*s wiiHlom
that greihouud is Grecian hound, because ftrrt
used among&t them (Richairdson's IHctiotiary),
Pennant is more laughable than anybody about
this, for he say a CanviU W\. liftXxtA^ ^mA^^ ^^kj^^
356
NOTES AND QUERIES.
^i
degree (y( n gentlemtLD, keep a grdiound^ quod pre-
dpui gradtls sit inter canes. This* fool in ji was never
surpassed even by etymolorriet*. Skinner Btigtjetits
fofof Grtrcus as the orr^iQ of i^ey, and Wehster
^vea ypalo^y aged, ^^rey, ua if it had to do with it.
But when we have the German grav, Dnt-«^h
fjraauw, Danii^h graa^ French f/rw, jind Englisli
gray, grrij^ I fancy we c^m easily see where grew
conies froin^ without a trudge to Athens to interro-
gate Minerva, Richardson rouiavks that in «cime
old writers greyhound is contracted into tfriwrnL
H»7fjiir.
Gryw, pronounce^i «jrewe, tind =Oreek, ie com-
mon enoii*i:h in old Welsh book'^. In Dr, Bavied'3
IMionary (i. c. Jo. Davies, SS., ThJ>.), *"'* txicf
** Gryw/' i find it exphiincd ** lingua Gneco," with
this iUustrfition, *^Gwir fu 'ngrryw uc Ebryw gael,
L, G." ; and from the index of authors at the end
I find L. G. are the initials of " Lowya^ alinA
Llywelyn Qlyn Cothi, 1450." In the Latin- Welsh
part of the LHdionary. sub vocii " Gnwus," I End "A
Derthyn ir groeg, a bertbyn ir grijw,'* The date
of this dictionary is torn out from the title-page,
but 1632 is given at the end of the Preface,
T, a U.
*' BlTTLT HERE FOR U13 ENVY " (t5**' S. ll 7, 132,
217.) — I think the pasaafje cjin be explained in the
foUowio}^ way. The chief point in qiieiition liet^^
accordin^T to my estimation, in the word^i "his envy."
r" Envy ■' ineana more than ** vexation at another's
good " or " malice." It implies also ** anger/* In
the latter sense it occurs in The Fa^e Qiuene^
canto iv. s. 44 : —
** Wlotli Cambfill seeing much the rame enryJc.
And ran at him witli aU \n§ inight and nmine.''
'Envyde** means here, wa« angry, indignant,
rhereiore we must read the passage in «|ueation
tbus : —
" The .Almi«hty Imth not built
Here forAi* envy."
He has not built this place in order to become
angrj"^ hitmdf^ not for hui vexation, for his anger,
but for ours ; therefore, be sure, *^he will not drive
us hence/' but will make us remain hero ever-
hLstin^ly. Theodor Marx.
Ingenhcim, Germany.
If I have not been anticip«kted| may I remark
'that Jabez seems bent on discovering an abstmse
pneaning instead of a plain one for this mssage 1
[^o wonder that Todd does not notice? any difficulty
i-in it. The only obscurities which exist in it are
J^und in the expression ** built "and the sentence
J •'here for his envy." With regtird to the former
I of these, it ahotdd be noticed that the pot't hsi;* nil
[along in his mind's eye the classical treatment of
the fall of Vulcan from Heaven while describing
the fiiil of Satan. See /, Par. Loit, r. 45, and
csptHiisdly 738-7*")!. The idea of building it !
ascribed to Vulcan : —
^* t\oT ought iLVftiled Itim nom
To hnvc built in he«v'ii hijeh tower*. •*
** but wi« bca']lunir gQtii
With bis iiidustriotu crew to build iii bell "
In 2.5n» Milton, tnmsferring this imag^^r
makes him nientidly contrast bis own 1
the prototype of the heathen Vulcan),
735, especially 732 : —
" His hand wn* known
In heav'n by many a towor'd simcture ^ - '^ "
— with God'« building, the notion of bii i '
from bis own oeeuj>ation the leading ot n xr«i i Mt
in Satan*s (Vulcan's) mind. Therefore "Iwih"
either means "caused to build*'*' .-.i....J m**!
to build}, or else is equivalent to
chief occupation, His interference V i
of things, is not here," i\«. He works in hi«fM|,
and hi^ nothing to do with this place. Whh
regard to "here for his envy," the *e!i
if envy be understood to mean (as t>
*' jealousy '* ; and this is a sentiment which
chantcteristiciUy would ascribe to Go<L Tl^'
sentence means, the Almighty hath not
to build down here so as to leave tnr
His being in the future
as to tling me out even
Almighty has reared n<>
in heaven) which His jt
to my production?^, and Jtam l.. in^ .^ iMi » .i
me from here. The point lies in the word " */
wnd the character of jei'l oj^v viliir-h Satan v-
to fix on God. Will J ve me if I
his dilht'ulty aoTiiewhat " [he proce«]ii'
a cuttlc-flsh I — it loses itself in the abundance d
its own ink. Prlaoicts.
Richardson Famtlt (4**» tS. x. 3d. p*u^m ; h^
S, i. 613; ii. 58.)— Rotssb will find that th i
was an luieient family of this eurname i^n Wiu
shire, if he refers to Add M8„ Brit. Mas., 4^^\
p. 33S, where is the follow im? t-ntry :**
** Jobn '^ ' " \ '.f.-il*.
county of
flon of Ji lui :...:; ...
if Warwick, Gent., ilird ^errtember 'I^k
Elennr. eldest dauKbter of Willinm }h
in Eagknd, Gent., by whom he I
This is a book of extriKts ! '
Entries. I am not snre th i
vcrhadm ei literatim^ nor hfl^
I beg to refer Korssg t
which he will find that the
of Rich Hill, CO. Armit'i'
Sfible, three leopards' 1.
I need not repeat the ,
the descent from the
Worcestershire. Tlio ai l
Office, May 2, 1647, as those of OpUun gaiter
M
fl»»8.1I. OCT.31.14]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
357
Mnjor) Edwurd Ricliartif*on, who ncquired
be Rich Hill estiite by hh nvirriiige with Anne,
ixh* child !ind bf^rr of Francb SHch<*vert>ll, Ejr*|.
ThfScfii 'v ofRidiardson, oneof whom,
rilliaui I tt E^'Jm b«MM*ttie owner of tho
kngher eitait, co, Tjmne^ by hia marriAge with
lary, elder duu^^hter and co-heir of the Rev.
liil ' f* Mae of Rosadry, co. Tyrone (not as
it-tjtj «Sfc., ^^tArrhilmM Richardson,
Mr daughter of Sir James Erskine '*),
[for their nrms *^ azure on a fesa argent^ an
^■dls furled, In chief, and in ba^e a
head couped or" — m slightly con-
It.^ „... 4. . lua* See *' Bimbnry," Bart*
Y, S. M.
, Fullisr's " PrsnAn-SiGiiT of Palbstixe " (5**^
L 203, 271, 3n», 4in,)^Hank-Ridtr»,^Chfi\>
i ft happy use of the phnise us the trans-
imtiTopi'i iTTTTfiiv (" urgers of horses'') in
lllunU i\\ 3ai)—
♦* The rtml'todif CftdiucAns much itic«ii&'d.' *
(Knight's edition^ toI L p. 112).
Ti"> ^>n;^u..+ ^i^.< fiiyg used earlier th&D Dekker's
nnslation of the passage is
/' vol. i. p. 90. Derby, the
r of debate, ijives the phrase an unexpected
nljao receivea rlkistTntion from Chapman^
Stts renders the line (Iliad^ xi. 675) —
Xaol fSc 7T€pLTp€(Tav dypoLiZrai :
*• All the doty} bore* with tomir fled."
(Vol i, p. 247, fld. Knight,)
leriviile—
** The tQor^ the/ quaked, and all their vpirit broke/*
lerbj* —
'• Terror ieised th« ruttie crowd. **
(line 772,)
Knight's editor, Dr. W. 0. Taylor, has a comment
b the line in question that is qiiite in keeping
pth the wonK It is tis follows:— "Dorp, *nn-<
*l ' (!), JJor^ or *lorft ( !)» in an old Saxon name
\ butU^ whose ' drony flight ' ia proverbially
bicm (jf stupidity." (!) J. E. Bajley,
Watkr-Marks (5»^ S. i. aS; 11. 94, 140.)—
/v.,...,'.,;., T»,,.vi..,|,;,{^y^ yf^^ published in
Samuel Leigh Sotheby,
. uieA imperial <|nnrto, the
whirh is devoted entirely to the subject of
f,*H Intuiiv. The book is scarce, as the
'd of but 250 copies, of which
^ nine guineais each. Copies
illy procured at from tive
i> to binding, iStc. Per-
] procure a copy from Mr.
IU8TOX DE BjSRNEVAL.
KPhi3ad«l|ihta.
"BoNNtJC Duxdek" (5«J> a ii, 5, 154.)— The
inscription j^'iven below, which is copied from a
^tra5f tipon the fioufh side of the altar of the
' I Church of 8. Droslan, Deer, Aberdeen-
o.Nsibly tbjit referred toby Ma. Efj warps.
IJLiiiJc^ the inscription, the brass bears a carving
of the Gmhani arms, nUo the initials I. C : V. D, : —
" -f Sacred to the memory of John Graham of
Ciaverhouse, ViBcount Dundee, who died in the
arms of Victory^ and wh»>se bnttle-cry wa.^ — ^Klng
James and the Church of Scotland,' -4- "
I believe it is quite true that the st/fr-^^^^'
remain* of Viscount Dundee were clande •
removed fronj the family burial vault iit i!^ ,.
Athol, and depo.sitcd within the Einsnopil ChuTLih
at Old Deer. 1 may add that, both internally and
externally, this is one of the handsomest places of
worship, for its sisie, in the North of Scotland.
B.
*^ Lk pROcks DKS Trcjis Rois '* (5»h S, I 468 ;
ii. J)5.) — OcTTis askft for the name of the author
of this work. It was written by " BimfThnidnr,
Attache a a Chevalier Zeno, autrefois A 1 r
lie Venise en France." Such is the 11 n
I find in the Didionnaire dfJt Onvraj/€Ji Anouifvics
. . . par . . . Barbier . . . 1806, vol ii. p. *^27,
No. 5730. It may be that, in the second edition
of 1824, Barbier gives some further infonmition ;
hut I cannot refer to that, for a very simple
reason, I haven't got it ; and the third edition^
which I have, ^oes as far as L, in December^ 18T3»
and has stuck there ever since.
Olphar Hambt*
Pronunciation (5*^ S. ii. 2C7, 314.)"Idare say
Lord Lyttelton 15 right in saying that '* ttery is
no doubt indefensible on any theory^; but suppose
we try to defend it on facts. Inasmuch as the
High Dutch is /eutr^ and the Low Dutch is wr^
it would seem thnt the very tisual spellinrr, /er, in
our old writers, yielding the fi«^ of Spenser and
Dn^den, had something to say for itself^ even
though the Englisc, or *' Anglo-Saxon," wjis fir or
fyr, V.HJ.L.iaf.V.
PnivY Cotrsfcit Judgment : Liddrll t*. Wes-
TKRTON (r,^ S, iL 128, 157, 175, 211, 238, 313.)—
To Middle Templar's objection I would reply
that there is no exact pamllel for Privy Council
Judgments ; they are commonly the work of one
or two lawyers, and four or live " laymen,'* who
know as little of law as the averace country
magistrate. The nearest pandlel to tbe case in
point is where a judge mi»directd the jury. Does
Mjddls Templar mean to tell me that the judge
could correct his misdirection, after a verdict had
been given in conformity wit.h such misdirection,
and still hold to the verdict il I think he would
soon find the verdict ouashed on the ground of
misdirection. The misoirection in tUla <:;«*£* ^^^ ^^
358
KOTES AND QUERIES.
the most ftagmnt description. The facta were
eiiaily ascerUdnable, and the asaeasora were bound
to know the facta, or to admit the jprosse^t ignorance
of their professioa, unless, indited, Middle Tem-
plar prefers to credit them Avith vi ilful perversion
of truth* B. M, PicKEiiijro,
106, Piccadilly.
A GnAND-DAUGIlTER OP EdWAUD III. (5*^ S. 11.
188, 253.)— I am much obliged to HEUMEXTRtJDE
for her answer to my query. She is, as usual,
actmrate, I haye carefully searched Miss Strick-
knd's Livfs of the Qnrcnx, and find that it waa not
from her iiuthorlty I had supposed the danpjhter of
Inf^elram de Coucy and Isjihelb of En^dand to
have been Barbaui, wife of Count Cilly, and I have
no notes by which I can trace out ray — probably
inaccurate — authority for the idea. A, S.
Old Enqravixos (S*** S. ii, 47, 135, 258.) — Lc
8aty}- tl U ViUft(fcou is bjPierr© Maleuvre, from a
painting by l)ietric3^ Maleuvre was a French
engraver, bora in Paris in 1740, died in ISOL
He finjt studied under Beauvarlet, and afterwards
wont to London and placed himself under Sir
Robert Stmn^e. J. Le BoUTiLLtER.
Ciocma&ti, U.S.
" Down with the Mito," &c. (5»t> S. ii- 2H7, 333.)
—Of this Jweobite tnict a second edition, *'by Sir
H. M,/' ctvme out in 17 17, and was immediately
foOowed by—
" The Mug Vindicated : To which is prufix'd, An Ac-
count of the Rlae^ Progress, and Constitution uf llio»e
Loyal Societies ; b^ing an Anawcr to the J*o|>uiar Objec-
tions of the Faction ng&mstthtrRi contftia'd in Sir H. M.'a
Malicbuft and Scurrilous Libel addrePi'tl to the Farlia-
txicnt, and entitled Doicn ifiUi the Mug ; or, Rmtonvjor
Stipprasing thi Mmjhousu**
** King George for ever " w/u* the ^luf^'house cry,
anil the coffee -ho uses where the Muggites met
were, by their partisans, called l^Cunseries of
Loyalty ; the Jacobites, on the other hand, called
them Wliitjgish Garrisons, and cried *' Hidi Church
an<l Onnond ; no Presbyterians ; no Hanover ;
down wuth the Mug/' I do not know whether
these tracts are all scarce. W. E. A. A. is wel-
come to the use of my copy, if he wishes it.
Joseph Rix, M.D.
St Neot'a.
"Touch not the Cat but (or bot) the
Glove " (rji>^ S. ii. 146, 213.)— Mr, Strattox is
quite right in explaining that "but'* or "bot"
means without in Scotch, "^wi and hai'* the
house mean within and without. I cannot agree
with him, however, that it is allow^able to fdter the
idd motto of the Clan Chattan to " unihoid a
glo/e/' instead of *'bot the glove," the original
fording. This would be sacrSficing too much in
'order to make the motto generally understood. To
those of^yoar renders who are fauiiliar with Scotch
balbds, the use of the word but in the
wiihoui muat be "well known. In Allan Cu
ham'B well-known verses, beginnings
•♦ Thoy hMt awom by thy God/'
these lines occur : —
" Come here and kneel wi' me,
Tbe morn is fu' o' the preeonoe o* myOod*
And I CBUna pr»y but thee."
Some families of the name of Unddsny have for
th-oir iDofcto "Love but dread ''=^Love without f»r.
S. T. P.
"Sconce" (5«^ S. ii. 206, 20O,)-Thw b t
peculiar use of thia word in The > ' ' /
Act V. sc, 3. SavU says to Young I
'^ If you consider mo in little^ I
Am, with your worghip's reverence, sir, a rwcal ;
One that, upon the next anger of your brother*
Muit raise a tconct by the highway, and sell ■witeheiL**
Dyce, in a note, says that "sconce '* b^^*^ *"^'"*
to mean some sort of iiall on which tbe '
were to be displayed. Mr* Tew will
" to sconce " = " to fin© ■* is explained by Ri chard-
son, ifivoct^ Middle Tsmplar.
Bradford.
It seems I must explain that " Necessarium,^ b
monastic phrascolog}% is tbe carderobe or jokcfi
which, at Csiuterbury, was playfully called tb»
"Third Dormitory," from the habit which tb«
monks had of doxing in its recesses. One of llic
duties of the rirca, or watchman, waa to go rvtur.d
at night, lantern in hand, to examine rJl \h.
"sedilin,^' and gently wake up any !
mifsfht find there. I do not see what >
can possibly be clearer or more satisfactory tti-it
that of the ti^rm " sconce " from " ab^ccmaa,' or
" sconsa," a lantern. In a question of dcriTaJtloii,
it is quite immaterial whether the term bt
etymologically applicable in all ita later uses.
J T F
Hatfield Hall, Durham.
"Tam o' Shantkr'* akd ••Soutkr %ToH^r*
(5^ 8. ii. 32S.)— I believe I am correct in ^tatjn^
that the originals of Thorn's figures uf Tam i»
Shanter and Souter Johnny are those d*
the interior of Bums'a monument on 11
the Boon, Ayrshire. Charles Kur.r.i.^,
Gmmpmn Lodge, Forest Hill.
[Thete itatuea were exhibited in fie^ent Street
LoodoiL]
ZiNZAS (5^ S. ii. 9, 20, 53, 115, 216.)— IcjuoH
the following from Tht JournuU of the Homh of
Commom, vol. vii., p. 387 : —
" Tuesdny, the 2lBt of November [1654] Ths
humble petition of Mary. Countess of Steriitis. Kiid Join
Blunt, her husband, ^ir Robert Croke, knight* muA
Dame Sa.<iiui, hia wife*, Henry Alexander, al|a« ZiMJui^
and Jacoba, his wife; Sackrile Glemhnm and F^ttf
Glemham, the said Couotesa, Dame Sutaii^ Jsc^U,
^^
t It Oct, SI, 711
NOTES AND QUERIES,
359
Edward Peacx>ck.
It, and Peter QlcmhMD, bein; grandchildren of
ter Vanlore the elder^ de«e«M^ ; juid jour peti-
, the eaJd Countem, D&cue Susan, luid Jacoba.
ilio the right beirs of the mid Sir Peter, und of
M»ry Powoli, her daujarbtcp, lute the mf*i of Sir
d PowetU deceased ; that i« to snjt daughters and
K Peter V»&lore the younger, dccenacd, only
CKE AND THE QUAKERS (5*^ S. il. 266,)
8 letter has frequently been printed. A cor-
opy of it will be foand in Thiatlethwayte*s
in of BUhop Baihursiy and again in tbe
ian Br former foT 1854, p, 691. Your cor-
ident's copy is printed from n MS. copy twice
ice removed from the orija:ina]^ and cootains
1 errors. The Unitarian Locke would never
rritten " the resurrection of the God of love ^';
iginal letter baa it *^ Lord of love."
Ctril*
UCRAPHICAL. — What part of the wor4d will
lee the dawn of {(. g.) the 25th December,
(5«* S, il 30S,)— For us Englishmen, who
Greenwich our zero of longitude, the division
ys occura at the 180th dcc:ree east and west
that point, 80 that those who live in eastern
to ISO**, as, for example., our newly-
aa fellow^citizens, ore nearly twelve
txUfj.d Kti us in time^ and may be sjiid to be
•St to see the dawn of any given day.
me who live in western longitude close to
ire, of course, nearly twelve hours behind na,
early twenty-four beliind the Fijians in time;
m any Saturdflv, the dweller in 179" GJ>' 59"
might eti^iiy kick or be kicked, if not into
aiddle^ at all events into the begLnning, of
reek in eastern longitude.
i, E. A. sihould ever *ail eastward ivcross long!-
16^>^ he will hear the captmn of hia ship
a day to be added ; if weatwajd^ to be sub-
dfc in order to bring the reckoning right.
HBdy ** (4^ S. xii\ ; 5"> S. i. pasnm t ii. 17.)
» writer of one of the ^* Whirligig Papere '* in
London Skttck-Book for April, 1874, p, 25,
hat the word " bloody,^' in the sense in which
ilgur use it, is not derived from blood at all,
rom a word in the old language of the
.1 T^nfnns— the Celtic^ Cymric, or Gaelic.
Illoiik^ or Bloif/hd, which signifies a
,, lent, a bit, or the adverb ** rather,^
John Churchill Sikes.
I HouM, Anerley.
^Ufctdattfouf*
NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.
The Gomel according to St Lnke, vt An^lo-Saxcn
and Northumbrian Versions, Synoj}fimll\f Ar-
ranged. With Collations, exhibiting all the
ReadingB of ail the MBS. Edited for the
8vndies of the University Press, by the Her.
Walter W. Skeat, M.A., late Fellow of Christ^s
College, and Author of a ilavso-Gothic Giossary.
(Cambridge, Deighton, BeU & Co.)
The above fore-leaf happily makes clear to all
the book and what is therein* The name of Mr.
Skcat is of itself enough to give proof tb&t the
work is throughout well done^ Sixteen years
have gone by since Mr. Hnrdwick finished the late
Mr. Kemble's work on the first of the Anglo-Saxon
Gospels^that of St. Matthew. Three years ago
Mr. Skeut gave to those who had long looked for
it the Gospel of St. Mark ; and now, thanks to
his careful oversight, we have a third book, with
the Gospel of St. Luke in the tongues as they
were once fspoken hj Anglo-Saxon and Northum-
brian folk. " Careful '' is the word, for greater
care could not be shown in such a work ; and
" oversight " is also the fitting word, for it never
seems to have been lacking from one end of the
work to the other. One may follow Mr. Skeat
through this book tiU Anglo-Saxon and Northum-
brian become, as it were, each a mother-tongue.
An Introduction to the Studij of Earhj EngUsfi
Hutory. By John Pym Yeatman. (Longmans
& Co.)
A fiTNfiurjiR book — singular for the ill, rude,
almost frantic temper in which it is written. To
sweep the Saxons, their laws and literature, out of
existence, and to make us, our kw^, and pretty
well everything eke, as being originally Britijshy
is a task any one may attempt ; h\ii why he should
rage over it, and roar down Protestantism, and
kick his opponents on the shins, is beyond con-
jecture. As a sample of Mr. Yeatman's gentler
style, we give the following :— " Dr. Whi taker is an
author of whom it is not rash to say that neither
Stubbfl nor Freeman, Creasy nor Maine, ever
read a line.'* In a subsequent page, Mr. Yeat-
mun refers to ** the great works of Mr. Freeman
himself, though the author has not read a line of
them." The above is a Rpecimen of the slipshod
style of the book. Mr. Yeutnian does not want
ability to stat-e a case, but lie sadly lacks temper,
and !in argument set forth in a whirlwind ot
pa.ssion is no argument at all.
Tht Aiifny hut of thi Boundheads and Cavaliers,
Containing the Narnes of the Officers in Ou
RoifiA and rarlianuniary Awms of 1640.
Edited by Edward Peacock, F,S.A. (Chatto &
Windua.)
This is a second ©ditionj revised, corrected, and
enlarged, of a work whioh is ** to serve ^' (as the
French say) to witcdg'WBBWblet iou of a liisLory
of the live« of thoefe^raow^re engaged on both
aides during tfie great civil war, Mr. Pencock
remsvrks, — ** It is doubtful wliether nny of those
«iigriged on either side iu that uiemorable strife
ever understood what is now lueant by liberty,"'
This will seem si bold saying to pftrtl^^jtiis, but not
to thoj^e who hjivo gone into the subject with the
impartiality of a jud^o. We iire bound to Miy a
word ia recognition and pruisc of the Index,
** The Index/' says Mr, Peacock^ ** is mainly the
work of my daughters^ Florence and Mftl»el" All
honour to these ladiea, whose co-operation has
made this 'volume perfect. When we add that
there are above two thou^^iind five hundred entries
in thia Index, we are yure that all who know the
preeioua value of such help to ready acce«s to the
text will lift their caps in homo^^e to Mr. Peacock's
daughters, and re-echo our words, ^* All honour I"
Wm bavo to Minounce a forthcoming reprint of the
WtitjniHMitr Drotlay^ 1671, 16i2» As represeiitaliire of
ilie lyrics of the first twelte yenrs after the Rc5t«jrAtioTi»
it- - l!ed. AfiwofitB - ' tire too'* free'*;
li 'id, th€ mirtli m u^'b *' fitst aiid
fvs kitt of a sort to nt A huudrcU ivnd
•«T€iity-v*ii4; iong» are here 7>re«t^rvtU. A lartje proportion
mre uf an amatory cSavs. To this colloction aii lotrtjduc-
tioa htti been prefix*?(J on the literature of tbt Drotltrifs,
nnd nn Appendix girci such notes ns arc dceaied useful
in illuftmtion of the text^ regariiing authorship and
variety of rendiiigs The impresaiou will be limited to
450 oopie«, fcap. t^vo., 10^. G«^»; fifty eopiea. lur^o paper,
demy Svo., \%s, Subicribcrs* names should be sent to
Robert Roberts, BoBton, LincolEshire.
L«ian HcKT, YsitSGa on.— To my forthcoming edition
of Letifk Uunt'f liemuin^, consisting of hi»iiiedited corre-
spoiidenct', liteitiry frugUJtntjs in proso and verse, and big
hithert> uncollected writing*, I propose to prefix a col-
lection of Corauicmlatory Vtrses. Will retidens of " X. &
Q,,** who know of such poutical tribute*, published in
England and America, kindly point them fmt to tmCj and
when in Transfttlantic sources difficult of acceft?, send
me copies of tbeni ? S, K Totiv&shk&i> Maykju
Richniondy Suri-«y,
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iiJlogcd Mi»(xii. Bible, and a general view of it certainly
seems to conflmi the aocun»cy of the stutement; but
cther« sav thut the last i but one was nriginally an l^
making the edition mdccli* tlie faint or lovrer part of
the L bikTiug been worn away by use,"
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epigram with the followini^ pas«vg« froco the tnaa^
of Sumnna in his memory: —
** Midut7i. TJhi volnntaa prompta estj ri nihil est Ofim
jSw. Qui 1 ' Olio [
i/i. Si 1 ria n-^uiinti, nemo Tim fjACtel tfti*
Kit iui, Xutanna^ Act L^ ee, S U599)l
MjL H. T. TiLtKT Bays, that by the kind n^Uii^nct rf
Mft, EtLAcoiriJE he is enabled to ifivc the proper JtT^n
of the Stoneteigh b«ll ^ it should bo thud : —
"MICHAKtK . TB , rVLSAKTi: . WYltClIKWrTJimA.M .1 <
FETKKTK . liftHOHE . TV . LIBRA/*
S. T. — " n pftfle FraU';aiR comme une rMsHc* Ik*
pagnole/' explains it«elf in this varied form of tibii
popular sxytng :— " II parle Frai}9MA comme une B^M^
Espupiolc/'
W, ir ("Charles Lamb") is referred to pp. 210 t»l
2S0 of the present volume of •* N. k Q." for mntmen U
his queries
H. B. C. should ftrst wntc to Dr. Cummin^ U^knpirU
that gentleman's speech Kvas jipoperly rep*t ud
n. J. ht\s only to rrnd ntt entirely
JuHuf Caf-ar to sntlsfy himself oil the i>
S. II. should address her i[uery to tho aaltior of thi
paper in which the Une>s first appeared.
J. i^UorBKimoN (Perth Oonibftt«iilt}.^A< m<m m
possible.
\\ 8. €AK£Y.--¥our note sludl be forwvdcd to 1^
proper quarter*
Db, Drake and Rkv* Dr, Holdkk.— Next wsei,
Y*. S. M« now corrects Bennet (p. 31 G) to Benn^K,
AOTtcg.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
361
LOKDOW, SATURnA V, NOV E USSR T, urt.
OONTENTR — N« 45.
t
ipoffdar Plot, 301— BMhf in the Mld^lla Agei,
LtlMt*, 3t$3— S«ckftiTti OB Sod they —^rres, &c.
hU Tr«iut«toi«^ 354 — '* Anecdote Uve*"^
Ukroftm Lawi *1 the Qm « OwtitTy Aifo— " Boberaiac "—
Idn«a Vlae^Tbe YeirlWa mi r«io«wick— " The FroJtlesa
Boqulfy/' adti— DwtVAtioni of Names ^ Lftrfe Oek— Btil-
looalng— Waj|to4 « dreat "ToetoUt" Po«i— KpitApb— An
' BltuuS<:f of Thackeray, SOtJ.
[USRIES^^-^rigiii of the Boy&l Btrase of StuArt— Marriages
in t«ni-"Tb«CT7of Nature*" Aa— HfraWic— TbeTbamei :
WL Faol'ior Liwiiibetb™'* School Dialognei for Boya"— Wont-
worth : Gawoytie, 367— Klrby*s " Wonfloiful and Eccentric
MoMam "— Bridf(ford Family— Reginald, Qtrant de VaUe*
iorta — **Onr aifecitoiis and pauioa»/' .tc — a«vent«enth'
Century Toketia— StandArd Wcightft and MeJUurcA of Scot-
hatd — **Gale"~The Towell Family of Radnorvhire — Camit
Von der Mufc— " Oakld^t} For^t Code "— iUog gtephen—
Vtameh, PTonundaUon— Worrh in an Old MS., SJ^— Pro-
tiitami '*Tlie BatUc of tlie Nile*'— Eastrntnilcf, S60,
BSPUES :— MedisTft] ftnd Modern Latia and Greek V«n«.
M9— Sir Chiiitcpber Waadeeforde, Lord C^tlcooiser. 370—
The Arms of air Pnncia Drake, S71 — '*The Butt«rf1r'a
B«IU*' S7£— "Like to the daiaaak roae yoa «e«/' &c., 37:i—
** AbuJlylenienli''— Artlmr Maimvrariiig^ 374— Percy Fotio
MSL SaUadi— The Early fSn«^li»h Contr»ctioit for Jeiiii— The
B&CMtlita of MAple Durham— A " Wasblogioo Medal/' 37.'*—
TbftNftme Jenifer— Str WiJllam Davenaot~Dr. Dee'« Maffic
lOtftJr- '^ Chriitianity as Old lu the tTeaUon/' 37«-'' Field ^
— XArdOoUiiifnirood— ^'Kake a bridge of ffold" — RLr Henry
Cb«cre» the SlAliMry^-Parii Pri»oi)«, 377 — *" Antient '' —
IfUioo'i "I-'AUefro — "The Grim Feature." 3Ri— Eidinton
BsCTi«« — •*W^)peii*d Widow"— "The a*r»ge" — akating
-" ,87».
Koiet on IBookt, to.
OUKPOWBER PLOT.
Tbuisdar last vras tlio SODth anuiversary of tbe
LaUeiDpt called sometimes the '* Gunpowder," 8ome-
TCiiiies the "Popish/' and often the *Meauit3* Plot."
Tbe main object of the consptnicy was to destroy
Janiea L by the ^ame process as that by which his
|ifit]ier| Dora ley, had been got rid of. Not only
James, indeed, but bis family, friends, ministers,
'4^ tind, in them, Kn^4und, sis far as it
1 to the rcli^on of Protustiintism.
The story nced« not to be re-told. Its old
itelluig^ rec-TLlh to mind how the chief actor in it,
f t he grave old Vork proctor,
:< in St. Clenient'fl Baoes,
r iiom his bouse in the Horae-
h, and how the plot was checked
< 'f time," and the chief aj^ents,
ins, through ext:cs-4 of reli;Lrious
ivi. f< rl and -^rntenced to die.
]. and they sug-
d}u'j: coiiiraent.
I is how 1 1 I . We
ipnrnplil lOxncUr
m oj ikt hUe
i>an(. A copy of
'^ dt^HcribedJn a
.htc '* with the amis
of Catesby, Percy, Gnint, Rokwood (sk), Bigby, and
Tresham, illutiiinated in gold and colours within
elegant borders, painted on the sides of cover/*
The publijjber Wiis " Jeffrey C!horlton, at his shop at
the great north door of St Paurs, 160C.''
This pamphlet hits been recently reprinted^ with
modernized spelling, in the MiHcdhmca Antiqua
Anglieana (Beeves & Turner). The author says
of the accused conspirators tlmt ** in the time of
their impriKonment, they rather feasted with their
sins than fasted with sorrow for them ; were richly
appurellefl^ fared deliciouBly, and took tobac-co out
of measure, with a seeming carelessness of their
crime." In the Star Chamber, before they went
into Westminster Hall (they were brought by boat
from the Tower), several of them suioked, one or
two were ** doj^ged " ; others ** forcing a stem look,
iis if they would fear (frighten) death with a frown."
Shortly after conviction, Bigby, the elder Winter,
Grunt, and Bates, were drawn on hur^lles from the
Tower to St. Paul's Churchyard, where they were
hanged, drawn^ and quartered. On the following
day,— but here the contemporary writer may best
describe the scene. The description is only slightly
sibridged : —
" The next day, Imng Priday, were drawn from the
Tower to the Old Falucfi id YVealtniniter» over against
the Parliaificnthouso, Thoirias Winter, the younger
brother, RookiNood. Key€?«, and Pawket the miner, justly
called, the DotiI of tbe Vault*
"Now Wintcrt frrst being brought to the scaiTold,
made little speech, but with a very pale and dead colour
went up tbe ladder, and, after & awing or two with a
hftlter^ to the quartcring-block wa« dbawn, and there
rjaickly dispatched.
"Nex:t him cunie Hookwoodj, who made a speech of
some longer time, confessing^ hie offence to God, to the
King, to the wbole state. But last of all, to mar all tbe
f>otage with owe fiUby weed, to mar this good prayer
with an ill conclusion, be prayed God to make tbe King
a Gatbolic, he went ud the ladder, and, hanging; till be
was altnost dead, was drawn to the block, where he gave
his last gasp.
*' Afttr him came Kcyes, who, n'ing little B,'>eeob, with
small or no show of repentance, went stoutly up tbe
bidder ; where, not staying tbe bangman'ii turn, h©
turned hit/jself off with fucIj a leap, tbat ^\ ' ' ' " ng
he brake the bailer, Imt, nfter bis tall, way \ a
to the block, nnd there was quickly divi . ftir
parts,
** Last of ail came the (rreat Devil of all, Fkwket, alias
Johnson, who sbotifM ' - - it fire to tbe nowder. Hil
Ixidy being wenk t^- i t id sickness^ be was scarce
able to go up the In b tnuch ado, by the help
of the hangman, \v< cK
with tbe fall : who i "t^
serming to be sorrv .^'* »«*- -..<-t.-v, ...,« . ^ ., -.-.i .1 ti>r-
givene-s of the Kui^ antt the state lor bis bloody intenip
and with hij» eros^* tind hih cftiemonics, made his end
upon tbe gallows and tbe block, to tbe great joy of the
beholders, thai tbe land wns ended of so wicked a villany ."
The writer, nnttcipntin;^' expresaiona of horror^
aska : "How can thei^e people be thought to hav6
been cruelly used that could intend and practice
80 horrible a vilh\iny a^i IUm dLt^V\k qS^ ^^q '^^aav^^ia^^.
362
KOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*aii.iroT.1
King, Queen, and Prince, so noble peers ^ and the
ruin of 30 flouriahing a kiogdora.'* Each one who
suffered thought himself justified, inasmuch as the
deed was done lor what he thought to be religious
purposes.
In reference to this plot, we have the following
from a learned correspondent :^
"Go'powiiKE Plot.— Ift there any iu?tance of such a
plot being succeflflful ? In Murray *a Hixndhook of France
i third edition, p. 455)^ in de»cribin^ the Fi&Uce of the
'opes »( Avignon, the writer Bftya : * A atoDe BtaircMe
letds to what wu once tho gre^t hall of the p<oe,
oUled 8»lle Brul6e, over since Pierre de Lurfe, P«p«l
legate la 1441, cauied it to be blown up,^ with the gucstfl
amembled in it, consisting of tbo nobles of Avignon, in
revenge for the murder of bis nephew, a young litjertine,
who had outraged them by hia cxceaaes/
*' But ft very different account is giyen in the Ptrcu
(U Vllistoiri d'Amtjnonf publiahed at AvignoOp 1S62,
vol. ii. p. 7: ' Lo 7 Mai, 1J13, un violent incendie con-
tuma la grande Mile d'audience du Palaia* lea cuiaines et
leB oliicea. On Tappflllait la aatle briil6e, et Poti faiaait
un conte a ce sujet. On diaait que Benoit XIII. (Fierro
de Lune, Antipape) y avajt invito k diner les chefa dea
principalea famiUea d'Arignon, et que> pendant qu'ili
^taient i t»ble^ i\ s'etait retird sous un protexti?, et avait
fait aauter lea convives. Aucun hifltorien tie pjirtc dun
fait pareil, et il aer&it aaaez important pour qu on ue I'etit
pu V*sf^ aous alienee/
•* The difference between thcae two stories seems to
indicate that both rest merely on tradition. I have not
been able to find any mention of either f^tory in nny
biatory of the Uvea of the Popes, nnr ia it alludad to in
the life of Benedict, thirteenth Antipope, In >Ugno,
JfowKU4 Bne^d, TheoloffiqWf torn. L coi. -190, la the
whole a mere popular myth ? J. B."
*' Temple/'
With regard to the variety of Gunpowder Plots,
we may aptly quote Mr. Dixon's words, from his
history of the Tower. After stilting that the power
of cutting off an enemy by a clmrge of powder was
familiar to the mindH of the conspirators, many of
whom had seen sen' ice in the war of engineers,
beyond the Straits, — "in the trenchea before OHbeml
whole companies were conatftntly blown into the
air," — Mr. JDixon goes on to my : —
"A train had been laid Sxi^ainst Famefie in the streets
of Antwerp. A second such train bad been laid against
the Protincial Council at the Hngue. Not once, but
many times, the gveat Queen'a life bad been threatened
bv w powder plot. One euch attempt was umde by
Michael JSloody; andj in Later times, Thomas Moody,
a pupil of Father Owen, had oifered to carry out the
scheme in which Moody failed."
Mr, Dixon states that before Queen EHmbetb-s
denii&e two Papal breves were received in England,
"one addreisseil to the Archprieat, George BlackweU,
and the Catholic clergy ; the other, to the nobility
and commons, in wmch hnevea the children of
Rome were enjoined, on their salvation, to admit
no Prince but such aa the Pope should appoint
to reign over them. These breves were not to be
published till the Queen was dead/' When Garnet
heard that James's acceasion was greeted with a
^ueml J07, "he took the Papal breves from his
desk," says Mr. Dixon, " as things too dangerous
to be kept,** and dropt them in the fire. There
muBt, in this case, have been duplicate copies
The project of cutting off the King and his progeny
was so hopeless of success, that ** the Jesuits," says
Mr. Dixon, ** dared not commit t1i-^^' -• U'^s *
publication of the breves," Ultini;
instmments were found, and the;, i.^- 1,
the consequences which are narmted above.
BATHS IN THE MIDDLE AGES.
Dr. Lyon Play fair, in his address to the
Science Association at Glasgow, stated that **f<^
a thousand years there was not a man or wo
in Europe that ever took a bath." This astound
assertion seems to have been accepted withoal*"
hesitation * but tliat it is without foundation, may
readily be shown.
To begin in the north. It appears in Lurthh
tSttga, that SadiDgadiil, the residence of thf^ hh
Gudruna, was much fre«piented on account of ii-
hot baths, I have rea<l somewhere "^' * Tii-i^,- : ,
who was entrapped in a bath and ^
There is a chapter in Olaus JI ;,
baths of the Northmen, and another «m
monial baths of brides, which were
with much formality. He says that bath- -
much more necessary in the north than in f
and that *^ tbernue tarn privatse rjuam
optimo ordine cum oiimibus requisitis in
dispositiy reperiiintur/* In my copy (Roun, 1
this 13 illtistruted by a view of the interior 5
public bath, showing much appamtus of floats •
great water- jet, and a man with hia fcfl in hui
water, and a tremendous ale- horn at his moiiH ,
good cure for a cold. Swimming and dr r
matches were often made.
In Ducange we find Balnearius, Balnat4>r 1
and that somewhere everj'^ batJier gave the tau .
keeper an egg a.^ lils fee, I
In tho Black Book of the Treasure IT* n, TI. it 1
appears that 4f?. h to be allowed f
bath, except on the three annual i'
would, judging from the next paragrjipli, get liu J
buth gnitis). \
In MSS. quoted by Fosbroke {BntUh 3r
chum) we learn thut E<ister^ Christmas, an I '
Nativity of the B, Virgin were the three T
when the chamberlain of the monast-enr v*
provide baths for the monk^. II
chamberlain, a tailor, and two balti
him, The monks were to go to 1
the superintendence of the vice-ci
their clothes were to be overhauled ; , ..
When the chamberlain was absent, the
berlain, with the consent of the prior^ n.,,
the use of the bath.
Id romances, the authors of which descrilicd 1
manners of their timCj we find the liulie« of 1
'4
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
ses
cattle pi^pariDg the bath for the errant knight. I
need only refer to Sir Tristram's bath^ which was
of such "serious consequence : **Upon a day the
"|Uene and la b<?ale Isoud mayde a bavne for Syre
Qtrist, (sic) and when he waa in his hajme,
quene und Isoud her daughter romed up and
pwne in the chamber/' and, exuinining hh sword^
ed that he was the knight who bad slain
ihnus. whereupon the queen " mahed to
lliiii where he sat in hU buyne." — A. Sitzbad*
there WHS a lady enchanted in a dolorous tower
bo had been kept a long time in boiling water.
pSir Livncelot went into tlie chamber that was as
ot duj any sieiceJ* — La Morte d: Arthur,
I take it that " to be in a stew," " to get into
Dt water/* ** to put one's foot in it/' are all derived
Dm the hob baths of our ancestors.
la Leckinfield Castle was a chamber called "the
^Northuviherland Homehold Book,
I instancea have occurred to me in half-an-
bt's reference to such bo^>k5 as were at hand ; but
aw comes it that Dr. Play fair has ignored the
able military Order of the Bath, and is un-
nted with the cerexiiODiotis and symbolical
Blng and drying of a postulant of the order of
aighthotidl W. G.
^ [In one of the Tolumci publiihcd by the EatIj English
Vxl 8i)cietj. ther« *re instructions to a acrvAiit bow to
> hit lUAfter'a bath, arr&age hia ipougei, ^o.]
8HAKSPEARIANA.
** ROMEO AND JULIET" IN SPAIN.
dflrincM y Monteses ; Tragi-Comidia. By Frey
Lope Felix De Vega Carpio. Translated by
F. \V, Coi^ens. (Printed for Private Circulation.)
Df Bandoji dc ['etmia, Moni€scoi y CapclcUf, By
Francisco De Rojiw y Zorilla. Englished by
F. W. Cosens. (Printed for Private Circulation.)
Thck the Hon. James Howard, in the reign of
barles II., took Shakapcare in hand and '^ini-
foved '' the national poet's dignified tragedy by
imvertLng it into a comedy, he probably waa not
B that the great dramatic poet of Spain bad
before him in that work, and had given a
tyden* hilarious Juliet to the theatre of Madrid.
"he two great dramatists wen* contemporaries.
Jfist Jis Otway, after Howard, "improved"
akspeare's dainty story still more, by moving it
,> cold classical region, and calling it Cairn
$f so Rojaa, some little while Jifter De Vega,
f^ course different from that in the earlier
u liomto and Juliet as diJferent
\h U predecessor's as Otway's young
iuid Lavinia Metella are different from
nrp*- pair of young lovers, who have drawn
FiBM. rliy and ao many toars^
^1q 1 . rbled version of De V<^'s play
nruei -M the Garrick's H^. Catherine
I Strand. About a hundred years kter, Mr.
Cosens translated the Spanish pky, as such a
Spanish scholar only could translate it ; and he
liberally gave copies to his friends. The impression
must luive been a large one^ if ail iir, Cosens's
friends were included in his liberality. Lope de
Vega's dramatized version of the old story varies
from Shakspeare's. There is no n\anifestation of
genius, less display of taste, no niceness of judg-
ment. We have no sympathy with the young lady
who has two ears for as many lovers at a time, and
who^ escaping from the tomb, frightens her father
to death, as die ghost of herself. At the end the
lovers are wedded, though Hoselio (Homeo) has a
narrow escape of being united to Dorot^a, the
sister of Ottavio, who is one of the two lovers of
Julia (Juliet).
In Rojas's version, the County Paris is wedded to
Romeo's sister, Elena, and may be called a perfect
** brute " in his deport metit, for he not only ill uses,
but wishes to rid himself of her, that he may marry
Julia Capelete. The Capeletes and Montesoos are
at feud. Romeo's father had killed, at a touroa-
meat, Julia's brother, and bad been slain in con-
sequence. Romeo rushed thereupon to the Capelete
mansion, to kill the sire, but he stubbed a servant
instead, and tried to slay Julia's falcon. But
Julia's eyes, seen for the first time, nearly slay the
rude intruder, who recovers, however, and the two
young people are ns hard and fast in love as young
people can possibly be. In the very hottest of it
all, the ignorunt old Capelete proposes that Julia
shall marry Andres, All that follows is a» bustling
as the very busiest of Spanish comedies. The lovers
meet and exchange vowa, and feel hopeless ; while
old Capelete is willing to throw over Andres and
give his daughter to County Paris^ if that ex-
emplary gentleman can only obtain a divorce from
Romeo's sister. Subsequently he leaves Julia to
choose between Andres and Paris, and the lady*s
answer is that she will take neither, but that, for
good or ill, young Romeo is lord of ber heart.
There is some fun with some lighting, and a great
deal of comic business, tUd Julia, wearied of lifs
and in despair for her love^ swallows a phial full
of poison, and seemingly dies. The sire and
County Paris unceremoniously deposit her in a
church vault, where, having swallowed only a sleep-
ing draught, she naturally awakes. In a confusing
scene, amid complete darkness, she is carried off
by Andrds, supposing him to be Romeo, who bears
off his sister, Elena, believing he Iijuh got Juliet !
The business becomes a mixture of burlesque, melo-
drama, tragi-eomedy, and pantomime. There is
hide-and-seek in a wood after Julia, who is ulti-
mately carried off by her sire to his castle. Romeo
and his allies storm the fortress with artillery, and
being the conqueror, the lady is yielded to him as
lawful and joyous prize.
There are some pretty lines in both the Spanish
plays, and there is a touch more of dv^t.^ \^\!cn»^
^^m
361
NOTES AND QUERI
[5»aiLNov.;
Juliet of RojftB^s drama thim in the same kidy of
Be Vega*s. When tho former prefers that Eonieo
fphould fjither hate than forget her, she supports
the ijentiiwent by saying : —
*' He who doth hate, »ti*l boUy hateth too.
E'en in his bating doth reniemWr love.
Wbile he who baaelj doth forget hU 1oy«
Ib hateful in hit own forgetftunesB.
1 'd rather know the hatred of my Ioyo
Than fe«l obliyion's shumeful Alight.*'
To which Roraeo replies : —
And jet all women bnYe ni»intain*d that hate
It but revenge, disguised."
It is remarkable that the two Bpanl^ dramntist.s
should have fidled to see what Shakspeare saw^
that a tragic catastrophe wau the only jwetically
just conclusion to this dramatic story of love,
fervent indeed, but ill-regiihited* Eb.
Beckford on Southet. — In a copy of Southe/M
b ** Vision of Judj^ment/' once iu the possession of
f Mr, Beckford of Fonthill, there are the following
eomments in that fjentieman^s handwriting at the
pAssoges indicated below ; —
" Socthet's Vision op Jut»gmfnt. (4 to. edn.)
"XIV. Quite the reveree, but the Duncery of this
d*y will Approve the Poet Lfturefite'fl crambo.
" XX. Bed hot thunderbolts levelled a^inst Inscivioua
Poets— the corruption of public mottils— Men of dUejwted
hearts and depraved imiiKiDations— K^^bols ngaiuBt the
holiest ordJcLQjiceeof humun society^ the Moores, Byrons^
and other gr&du&tes of the Sfttunic scbcvoL
•' XXI. Not only the wriiert, but the purchasers of
such publications, impious negleoters of the pare
8oatbcy'« Utter wriiitigs^ would be atiAthematixeil,
branded, banished, and perhaps burnt uuHtraiigled* were
the Defender of the Faith to be armed with proper
avenj^tt]^ pQwer8> and those powers delegated to his
faith f ul Xaurcatc.
** 2. from far G 1 cramar,
Bleacrag and MsJdeamaur, to Grizedal and westennost
Withon.
Suo'bus and Incubus ugly atich names Ruit
Better than mountains in my poor O-pinion.
"9. The Ghost of Geo. 3'' askin^r the Ghost of Perce-
Tal— What— what of his ton —
* Firm in hit father's steps hath the Regent trod was
the answer.'
''20. A Guiltypair— squinting Wilkes and iron Ttsored
JuniuS;, swtin^ into blaclcest Hell for i!anderin^ their
holv immaoulato Bore reign. Bons of ftictiun be warned^
ana ye, ye slanderers, learn ye justice.
♦• 13, A grand angelic Ho,
*'22, Another Ho.
"Notes. 63. We have the Laureate's word that
chemistry is one of the aubjecu of which he is contented
to be if^orant. More ^ood company in Heaven than
•might have been expected, considering tlic rules of
bdmtsdoa as by Bible cstabli^iied 3Iaj^nific«ut Edward,
^ion hearted Richard, matchlcBs Jiliiza, the Hero of
flssy (rather of Poitiers), certainly not of Limoges^
loha Dtiko of Marlborough— 'alike iu all virtues accom-
"*pli^fld, public or private, he, the perfect soldier and
statetnuui.' Miltoo, HoRarth, 8ir Joshua Reynolds,
and numy others one is happy to meet, but could scarcely
hare Tcntuied to look for.
" I am rather surprised that instead of being whirled
into Hell, ' he of the cast of eye oWiqne ' hnd r.nt made
one of the blessed party, ^outhey c '-"< btte
forgotten tliat this Lord of Misrule, f, haj
apyttafifiaed from his early yi -• -i- ' -^ i.j., ...^ ..d, likt
himself, the fruits of reyi U gone tretiuciitif
to Court, and been emDcd '. . mg Gf^oTpe the.v^
the pattern of all purity. iNL'tltiii!^ ia more bhuding
than fanatical self complacency, boutbcy conSdcs iu
his own lalvation, and damus poor dquinting Wilkes t»
all eternity. W. B."
fX B.
SsKRBS, &c.— In th© Catalogue of the
Library, Ijritish Museum, I find mentionsd'
** Liber NauticuiSy and InMrucior in thi Art (^
Marine I halving^ with plates, foL Loud., I9Mt
By Dominick Serres, R,A., and John ThooMt
Scrres.'* Also, 209, h, 10, the Little S^a TwA tf
B&ixgardj by John Thomas Serrea, Manner Psaitar
to H.M. Geo. III., a large folio, a.ix ISOL
A Gniik to Filots^ with numerous Views of Li|^
houses, &c., being a translation frr»m the Fpiodi
work. In the old Cataloj^nie <>l '^'4, ^
are mentioned " PicturtMpu J dpif
Alonumtnts in the Ctmttcryoj I'-rti la CVfau^, mar
Pai-ig^ with a Yiew of the Panicle te efvoled hf
Abelard." The new Catalocn h dunlictfD
t.opita of the Mtrnmr of J. it« Mttnr
Pttiuter to His Majesty," aak * "'^, ^t^.
by a frienrl, 5»J pages. A relative o'
a valuable marine painting by thijs .*^^,^.. ^sy^^'iUfL
a shipwreck in a storm at sea— li I&ige pantUeJognow
Cbr. Coovl
London.
Dante and his Translators. — The aui
of the book, Holland Moitse, there quoting ihite
verses of the Diviiia tJommedia, L ^' mle^f
adjoined to them the answerinj^' IjfOf^
fellow's version ; and on the page *-i ^xi ^ witicvta
the numbex of the Quarterly litvUw for Octo^bcf
of last year, are the two quotations reproduced,
they here follow. The guide of the poet Vi
speaks, and to him —
Z)aa/«.
** Orai so innanzi a mo nulla a' adomhrn*
Non ti m&ravigliar piit che de* cieli,
Che I'uno all* altro il raggio non ingombra,"
" Now if in front of me no shadow falls*
Marvel not at It more than at the heaTona^
Because one ray impedeth not another^.**
You construe and comi>are. The firt«t
comes out all right and the second. Fi
thinl Engliiih the very peculiar sen-*- -^^ '>
Itidian has escaped altogether. t the
one (heaven) to tne other (heaven) .
the ray, — in one wo\t], that the one bi
translucent to the other, — you have *^ rajr
peding ray/^ Nothing more. HeaTeo moA
have vanlahed.
You love and honour our brother beyond Ib^
8»&TI.Sov.?.74.I
NOTES AND QUERIES.
365
¥
|ReAl waters, and are disquieted. Take comfort.
Two readings of the line, Ji better nnd a worse, are
ID currency. You hiive seen the better. From an
r>>»Iijsh edition— Pickerinff, ls23— read the worse:
•*Cbe I'ufio »ir altro ragglo non iQgombr&,*'
lie distinguished translator, by nushapj
! rfore him, has tnily rendered. In two
ieitt'iN mi^inj^, two worlds missing.
Of an o<id enigma, twice salient in our literature
the day's bringing forth, the unriddling, now
' here, will hardly be thought misiimed or niiB-
S-— The verses are 28-30 of the third canto,
■ IVgatorio*'*
" AxECT>f>TE Liv^Bs.'^— In the second volume of
Uiis work (p. OO) we are told that ** Witticisms
are often attrlV.nti .1 t,, the wrong people*'; and, in
illtiAtnition oj jsm, we are informed that
*^ It was L<inl I Id, not Sheridan" (where ia
it attributed to bhoridan ?), ** who said, on occasion
of m certain marriage, that ' Nobody's son had
•married evei7lxKly'a daughter.'" The "wit" of
'thi» h not very obvious, and, in relating the
anectiote, the author has shown that ** he can mar
n curioua talc in telling it/'
The original story is as follows :— On the mar-
fia^e of a natural son of Mr, Lock (formerly of
liorbtiry Park) with the daughter of Lady Schaub,
who had been rery gallant^ Moraine WalpoU said,
** Then every body"* 3 daughter is married to nob^y'a
S5on" {Life of Eiimunti Malom\ im^K p. 371). In
the same volume (p. 66) it is stated of Rogers that
*• be envied no man of his time any saying so much
as be envied Lord John Russell that admirable
definition of a proverb — * The wisdom of many anil
the wit of one.'" Yet just previously (p. 41} the
mune saying is attributed to Arcbbisliop Whately !
Traly "witticisms are often attributed to the
wron^r people.'* Who Vt'ns the originator of this
definition J— which, notwitb.standing Bogeis's ad-
miration, »eems tnuTeable to Pojje'g Tine —
** What oft naa ihoughtj hut ne'er lo well expreued."
Charles Wtue.
DrvoRCR Laws at the Cape a Cexturt Ago.
— In Thunberg, who visited the Cape in 1774, we
read the foUowLng curious divorce c^c (voL ii. 127):
'•Th« wife of one Fardyn, who had been a ioldicr
ttaen je&rs, and at tbi« time kept ft publichoiOBe and
" "^foom* for the reception of common people, wa«
in Coart by the eridenee of two witnesses, to
,-.;..,;..„ I ^„.,.,.^r _, yriih. & dnimmer The
', to part with hii wife,
all farther pvmighmont ;
klniry, win tloggtyd. and g«nt to
K*t iulfefcd tu receive tho leut benefit
frot' , ,,
1 ' iifle of i^iieen*s Prrnrtor intervening
ih .. .. .,,,.. nee. and ^hows plainly that the old
»ut©h Ea^t Indio mlew of the Cape had a «shjirp
eye to the morality of its serfs, as the colonists
truly were before the conquest of tlie Cape by the
British Covernment. Even at the present day
divorce cases are very rare in the Cape law conrts.
H. H,
La render HilL
"Bohemian/* — ^ Allow me to protest in the
columns of " N. & Q." against the modern and
utterly senseless use of this word to denote a free*
and-easy living, roving artist, or literary man.
It ia dear to our novelists, and enables them to
air a scrap of imperfectly acquired French, ^^ Bo-
hemian*' may very well be^ir this sense in French,
where the word already meant a gipsy or vagrant ;
but when abruptly thrown upon English ground,
without parenUige or belongings, it has the air of
a ridiculous intruder. Tlie French themselvas,
who better understand the use of words, rarely
play such fantastic tricks with their lang
Id.«lik Vine.— Scott, in The Lady of the Lakij
seems to have made a botanical mistidcein mjiking
this plant twine on a Scotch highland lodffe of that
period. The Vacciniiim Vitu Idm^ is a httle bog-
plant. Was he thinking of the Camidian creeper,
which lA bot4inicalIy allied to the vine \ It could
not have been then known in Scotland.
S. T. P.
Thk Yew Trees at Painswick.— An elderly
lady tells me that at Pains wick Church, near
Stroud^ there are ninety- nine yew trees, about
which there is this great peculiarity, that their
number cannot be increased. It has been tried
over and over again, but always with the same
result ; when tho newly -plan ted tree grows, one of
the old ones dies. The old lady has seen the
trees, and very naturally comes to the conclusion
that the legend must be true, T* C. U.
" The Fruitless Enquiry.*' — Towards the close
of the last century, and during my sebool-boy days,
a book having the [ibove title came under my
observation, and, I must confess, wis eimiy
perused. The story related to a married lady
whose son had been lost, and the only hope of his
being restored was by getting a shirt made for him
by any one of her femide friends or iicquaintaneea
who could not accuse herself of having made a
false step in a mond point of view. After various
applications, each one had to confess that she was
nut qualified, and to relate the circumstance, without
:iny reservation, of the cause thereof. At this
length of time, I have forgotton how the stoiy
ended, whether the son had been restored, or if it
resulted in the disappointment of a simihir story
told by Sir Walter Scott in the poem of Snltnua
Solinmuo in ^search after happiness. Not having
seen till very lately Sir Walter's poem^ it btQu^si
366
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[S*S.ItNon
to my recollection the story of the lady and her
Bon ; aod it may be a matter of consideration for
tlie numerous readers of *'N* & i^/' whether be
iiiuned his story thereon, or took ft Ijint ft-om J^a
Camiscia Magica, i\ novel, by Giam Battista CastL
J. P. X.
Bbrivations op Names* — The names of several
textiues of cotton nre held (and without doubt
correctly) to be of Eastern origin. For instance^
calico 19 held to be derived from the Indian town
of f •alicut, and muslin from the town of Mo^ul, on
the TigriB. But I have never heard the texture
cniled gingham asaif^ned to what I beHeve is its
true oriwiD, viz.^ the Indian word guighdm. In
Sir J. Wilkin son's work on Egypt, the word is
held to be of Egyptian origin ; but the Indian
texture ffinghdm is exactly the s:\mc as our English
jringhiun, India maij^ in intercourse with the Red
Sea^ have imported a texture bo called from Eg>l)t ;
but it IB aa likely (if not more so) that the texture,
both in its fabric and name, is of pure Indian
origin. CivtLts,
[Gingliam is aomctlmca »nid to be derived from Gulu-
gamp, a town in Franc e.j
Large Oak. — Allow uie to pluce on record in
the pages of " N. & Q.-* the dimensions of an oak-
tree which there is every reason to believe is the
largest iji England^ even exceeding? in size the
eelebrated one at .Cowthorpe^ near Wetherijy, in
Yorkshire. They have been supplied by a geotle-
mjiD who resides near the place in which tlie tree
is situated^Murtonj a township in the parish of
Prestbuty, in the county of Chester, and about
three milea distant frooi Congleton, The ^irth
round the foot of it is G4 feet /j inches und the
diameter inside varies from lu to 12 leet. The
Mar ton oak is now careful ly preserved, and fenced
round by a railing, but in former years it was used
as a pigaty,* and before that time was the resi-
dence of a bull. Could the old tree speak like
Tennyson's " Talking Oak," what legends could it
tell ; though from once having been devoted to
the above-mentioned useful purposes, the Marton
oak can scarcely, like it^ aay —
" And I liiiTi* sheltered m&ny a group
tJf beftuties that were l>oi n
In teiicu|» tinioa cif liood and hoop,
Or wliilc the pntch waa worn*'
Surely drawings or photographs of this giant
ought to be made, in order to preserve a record of
it, und aa yet I am not aware of the existence of
any. JonN Pick ford, M.A.
Kcwboume Rectory, Woodbridge.
Ballooning. — The reeeot ballooning in Csdais
brought back upon my memory the year 17cH4,
* *'Ip8e ruit, denteMue SalielUeiis exacuit lui*,
1st pede proButigu tcrmm, fricat arbore custHA*
Atqu« hiiic litque iUinc humero» ad vuln«iii durai.*
Oeorifieon, lib* iii. v. 255| «i mq.
when Lunardi made kis first oftcent tn EngUnd.
Over the chimney-piece of my grandmnthrr'
nursery-room (which, being then ^eveii ye-ir- ' .
I had vacated for my day-school le^on^ \.h u
good city of Worcester) was pasted an f«'i;u<' 1
soudl pictures on a single sheet, delinejitiii^ the
histor)' of a balloon, each being underlined wiib a
descriptive hemistich : —
** A puffing at the air-balloon/'
" You now behold it filled quite adod/*
** The people Btare to tec it fl»-"
" Zookf ! ti« got fturprifiing liigh ! "
** The man in the moon, but not ftstoep."*
(Stiting viih hu pipe and pot ^f aU.^
"Old Catafogo Cakci a p<*ep/*
•* Tlie clowns are startled at the ti^ht**
" 'Tiii burst ] atid now it comes down quite/*
Edmund Lenthall Swiftk.
Wanted, a Great " Teetotal " Port — I/>t*J
NeaveS) in T?/e trr<'<'A': j4«//io/o^y (whirli
twentieth and concluding volume of tli
series of " Ancient Classics for English Il^iaaei /
published by Messrs. Blackwood), remarks of the
couplet : —
** Wine to the poet ia & winged steed :
Those who drink water come hut little tpeed,**
that it is "a favourite nentiment— i>erhap> tw
much so — ^^witb the old poets"; and he addf/'^ '*-
great poet has existed in our day who wa* n
exception to this alleged rule** fp. 1130), Wi.. , .
the " great poet of our day " here referretl to ! I
By the way, Moore, I think, has sj»un «lu» ahnw 1
couplet into the following linens : —
"If with water you fill up your gluses,
You'll never write anything wise ;
For wine is the horse cf Parn&seut,
Which hun iea a bard to the ftkiea.'*
Moore, it seems to me, has couiiidembly we*k*nfti
the epijj;rammatic force of the original in ihu
translation, or paraphrase. W* A. C,
Glasgow.
Epitaph. — There is an old tablet in Bf]wn
Cathedral, with an inscription (of whieli I t
copy) in memory of Hugh Ripley, who died
It record.s the good uses to which he pti'. lii
wealth, both in Eii> will and during hu» life. U
says—
« Nor didftt thou broi>ding o'er it tit,
Not making use till death of It.**
S. T. F.
An UxcoNsciotrs Blunder of t
" The Four George*/* CorrUiiU M
voU ii» p. 181 ; and the separate ptibin.aLxi»u tu ?> j
Smith & Elder, 1801, p. 64 :—
*' I read that Ladj Yftrmoulh 'm — —-* rc'liffiaiil «■
gructouA Kiri»t*t« fuTi urite) jMild a r Ji&ttrfffWM
For5,(KX>/. OhebclU-tl him r>,LXK^i/ r^&M Blttbt
miide A biahop, and ho Io$t and paid Ler)#"
It i^ remarkable that the author ncrer dtBOOfure^
that according to the terms gf this bet, as jiUt«4|
m
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367
if the dergyman became a biuhop, he woa the
winner. U. 0— n.
taurrtrC
[We mtut raqueat correspondents desiring iofarmfttioti
on fnmilj nutters of only prirnte interest, to affix their
DABiei Mid a4dre«Ki to their queries, in order that the
mafwen may b« addreued to them direct.]
, i)ElOiy OF THE ROTAL H0U8E OF StUART, — A
volame» by Mr. Cosmo Innes, entitled Con-
nimj ^otri^ Scotch SumameJij printed in 1860
[(ft>ot-Dote» p. 4), contains a reference to the pedigree
I of the Royal House of Stuart. " Alanm dapifer,**
I ibis uulhor says, ** whom we now know (thanks to
[Gt?orge Chalmers) to have been a son of the great
l^onn»n family of Fitz-Alan." Mr. Innes here
pliunly intends the reader to believe that he who
(Jtit indicated the authentic pedigree of the Scot-
flab House of Stuart wna the author of Caledonia.
\Ai p* lfJ7 of Mr. Innes'a Leciuru on Scotcl* Legal
yAntiqmtitfi^ Edinburgh, 1872, he repeats the
IttAtement in a more direct form : —
*• Tbe i»h»rtuTiiry of Paialej," he there Informi iii^ "is
I ling the etrliett record extant of a
procedure of which 1 must spt-ak
'/idty, as iupplyinff the mat trials
iMra'«i *nAUcti tftunjt Chalmeri to prow iht detctnt of
1I4 Roifai StvatU/ronh (A^ ^'orman PiUalant, instead of
^ffom iJector Botce'i imaginary pedigree of BanquoV
hancii of Locbaber.'*
It would appear from another account which I
hfli'e reo;d, that John Finkerton^ and not George
li'halmtrg, was the first to point to the true origin
of the royaJ line of Stuart. The statement to
r^liwli 7 refer occurs in a paper contained in the
ffs of the Scottish Antiquaries at Edin-
inmunicated by Dr. J* C. Roger» a mem-
' **i that body. ^ The title of Dr. Roger's paper
; " Notices of Ancient Monuments in the Ruined
[fourth of St. Mary, Rotbe^Ay."' The passajce in
;|ueation will \te found in vol iL of the Froa^dinffg,
47<'. It is this : —
*T.'» 1he acute perception of Pinkerton we are in-
" the firflt glimpie of the Butben tie origin of
ti family. Penetrating through ihe fltjM* of
kv:- ^->ii/ ubulooa hlat<iriaDB into the regioas of^unex-
[ttniDcd'aiitiqvityf thitt incredulotu antiquary w«a led to
^•Ofxe«t, •! its original, th<? great Anglo-Norman family
qf Fita-Atan, an opinion the truthfulness of which has
beta dcmonstratea by Chalmers iu the |>ages of CiUc'
WMk, therefore, in Mr. Roger's account Chul-
-1 — •" '^hiiie in the transaction ia freely admitted,
^ in neither caae makes any mention of
of Pinkerton, If, aa it would seem,
oa, and not Chalmers, was the actual
terer of the Stuart pedigree, although his
may have been confirm^ by the latter, it
t hartllv fair that he should be altogether
1^lm*ed — paifntun ^i fMTuit ferat. It is one
thing to discover, and quite another thing to foQow
up the RUi^fi^estions of another.
I shall be much obliged If some contributor of
" K. & Q/' will thn:>w any light on this matter,
especially as regards the tmdt.nct on which the
claim of Pinkerton depends. E. D.
Whitehall, Essex,
Marriaoks in LENT.—'^Tien was it first for-
bidden to marry in Lent ? T ask this not aa a
polemical but ns an historical question^ and want
simple factH, Am I th^ht in supposing that it was
the practice in En Poland till nemrly the close of the
la«t century to refrain from entering into maixiage
during Lent I M. T.
*'TnE Cry op Native ; or^ an Appeal .to Mercy and
to Justice on l>ehalf of the Persecuted Animals. By
John Oswald , Member ^^^f the Club dea Jmcohinefl.
London : Printed for J. Johnson, No. 72, St. Paul's
CburchYard. 17B1/"
Perhaps some contributor to " N. & Q.*' can
give information concerning the above author, and
say whether he wrote any other work.
George R. Jesse.
Huraldic, — To what family do the followiDg
arms belong : arg., on a bend wavy^ cottised gu.*
within a bordure az. bezant j--, three liuns' heada
erased of the first ? Are they home by the Tucks
of Wilts] E. E. W.
The Thames : St. Paul's on Lambeth. —
Where can I find an epigram npon a certain divine
setting out from Hangerford or Whitehall Staira
in a Thames wherry, and into whose mouth are
put the words —
** With the tide we must swim*'?
And then follows the moral —
" To St. Paul's or to Lambeth was all one to him.*'
E, Walpord, M,A,
Hampstead, N.W*
** School DiALOGirBS for Boys/* 2 Tok.^ 12mo.,
1783, — Who was the authoress i It was published
by Marshall, Loufion, and is dedicated to Mwater
W F . These dialogues are in reidity short
dramas, illustrative of school life. The authoress
secma to have resided in Suffolk, or to have been
connected with tlmt county. See vol. L, p. 180,
kc, ; also vol, ii., pp. 28-9, &c. The authoress
alludes to her having published some book pre-
viously, but does not mention its title.
R, I}«GLI8.
Wejttwobth ; GAScoYWE-^Wbitaker {Hist&ry
of Leeds) gives two pedigrees of the former family,
the one deducing the descent of Robert de Went-
worth, who married Emma Wodehous, from
Reginald de Went worth by seveti generations, and
the other another line of descent for the same
person. What was this second line, consbtlog, I
Delieve, of five generations ? Also, what is the
^ES AKD QUERIES.
(6** a ILNoT.T.Ti
dbseent, and by wlmt nUiaBc^^g, from Lord Chief
Justice Gnai-oyne to tLat WUliftm Gascoyne who
was fiither-in-law of ThomriR AVent worth of Wont-
worth Woodhouiie ? a. W. ^V,
KiRBT's "WoNDERFtIL AND ECCRKTRIC MtJ-
6EUM." — VThtit plate should vol, iv. have for
frontispiece ? It is wanting in every copy to which
I have had access. George Potter,
Bridgford Familt.— I ask for information
reepecting the history of this family ; the arms
are, gules, two hars between three luurtlets argent*
Could they hiive been in any way connected with
BridgfoniHail and manor in the parishes of St.
Mary and Leighfdrd, Stafford, and within three
miles of the town of Stafford I
Charles Trussel.
Eerinald, GotjxT DE Yallktorta. — Who woa
he ? He married the hetross of Wtdter do Dunstfin-
ville, Lonl of Castlecombe^ and of Trematon in
right of his wife, who was the tliird daughter and
CO -heiress of RegioiUd Fitz-Henr3'(orDim8tanville),
Earl of CornwaU. In Burke^s Peerage ^ it is said that
liichard Plantagenet, yonngier son of King John,
had » natural son, Richard de Comewall, by
Beatrix^ niece of Conrad of Cologne ; whereas in
an old pedigree in the possession of our family it
is stated tliat Jane de Vatletort waa the mother of
this Eiehard de Corn e wall. Iij it posiiible thsit
Eegmald, Count de Valletorta, wiw a Genimn
noble allied to the Hoyal Hou^ of Cologne, and
that a mistake in the Christian name was made /
Was the surname of the Eoyal ITouBe of Cologne
Valietortl ' W. G, T,
" Our affections and pftcsioni conae to ttfl from a dim
recollection of a former eiaie,of bemg/'
What Engliiih poet expresses the above senti-
ment ? Prince.
Se\*kkteenth Centcrt Tokens.— I wkh to
•ppropriat-e correctly a Berenteenth-century token,
[ but the eniecijnen I \ym&em ia ho very poor that I
cannot do so without some fiirther confirmntion.
Ka far rus I C4kn make out it reads, Obv. : ** William
BIDE " (the tield detrited). Rev.: " of finchlte,
i2j66r>. w. K- H." Can any of your readers kindly
. inform me if the name can now be traced to that
locality? A refctence to the register, perhaps,
woidd throw some light on the matter. It is
rather singidiir that no token has hitherto been
assigned tu that then important vilhige* Any in-
formation will oblfge Hexrt CnRisTiE.
SrAyDARD WElunT?? A>*D MEASt^RES OF ScOT-
LAHD.— In the Guildhall at Stirling these are pre-
served ; the yiird being 37i inches, the pound being
I £4 ounces. How is it that they were different
from the English standard I S. N.
" Gale." — In the Dean Forest a mine it «
callfid. Is the won I Wehh ? A. L. Matbcw.
Oxford.
The Powell Faajilt of RADNonsntRE.— !
want to trace the descendants of John Powell
the Castle" Y ' ' ^' ^ '
his wife. Th. P
February 3, iGi'Vf , .>j;u;\. nir *.iu«
Februar)' of the following year ; Jai
1699 ; Richard, August, \7nl ; Siu.,..
17n3; and Anne in Januarj% 1704. 'i
four other children, Vnr rmne of the n! >
buried or married n; *d,
Anne, the la«t n , was the wife of
Conyeia Middleton, whom she surrivcd. SIM
died in 176(i, and left her pronertr to bet nepbe^
John Powell. N. fa. RoBlirsoy.
6, Great Queen Streeti Westminster.
Count Von der Mark,— Who was the Pnissiaa
Count Von der Mark at the close of f v... i,.=f f^.
tury ? Wus the title borne by an i m
of the King of Prussia ? J. \\- _ — r.R
" Oakleioh Forest Code." — ^Wherw can I find
the OaklHgh Forest Code, upon which so mud
praise has lately been bestowed for the apizit i'
which it is \^Tittcn ? A writer, in a w^-^H
Liberal papr strongly opposed to the Game I
has recently stated that *4t betrays genuine *
tion for all aspects of Nature." On this
am most anxious to read it.
KiNii STErnEN.— Can any of your readers helj>
me to fix with any certainty the place of thedeuUi
and burial of King Stex)hen / Did he dt^' :»i
Boulogne^ Dover^ or Canterbury i Wtw he hunoi
at Faversham, and hiA coffin melted down, and hi^
body cast into the river at the time of the di^s^ilu*
tion of the monasteries, or was he buried at i)ovep;
and, if so^ is thei"© any sound ground for beln - : '
the embalmed body, lately discovered in ai l
sea chest under the porch of 8t. Mary's Church lu
that town, to be his ? G. F. Russell Barkfji.
Oxford liquftre, Hyde Park.
French PiioyrNciATiojf.— Chuit^U, in the
Ro^tiad, makes Bmis rhyme with home. Is it
possible tliat the French word was ever 9o pin-
nounced, and are there other exanapkss of Wm f"
to nie a novelty ? The lines are —
" NeKt oune the Treasurer of cither hotipe ;
One with full purse, toother with not a bom,"
c. B. T. ;
Eton.
Words ix ax Old MS.— Ib the library
Campsmount, York.»?hire, is r* tjiiriTiv^Hpt
Robert Parky n, Presb,^ gTvir^ ^f i
sorrows and trials of "Holi
days of Henry VIIL and Edwwd XL He »y»
0* 8. It IToT. 7, "i*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
369
I
th.it all TicaPfs. caraics, &c., wore compelled to
flive in All iii> nfcory of their " majss-books, bells,
^c^.^.aad ciwrtchera, port«S3e», and primers,- '
What 19 the meaoiJig of tiie lfl.st three words ?
PBOTBSTAsrrs,— :Mny I ask if the foUomng
pMnagi from the Vulgatii firat suggested the word
Protestants/' or has it been noticed elsewhere 1^
*• Hiiieh&ieu Froi>b«t«s. ut r«Tert«rcntur ivd Dorainum,
■r» Uli iiudire ndebftut/*— 2 CbroniclcB
xshr.l9.
R. a
Cork-
**Thk Battle op this Nile,**— I wish to
I recover the words iind the music, if possible, of
Ithii (tpiriteiJ n) ' ■ > --j, beginDing—
'Ariie, mrise, ions arise, and join in the
eboaUoflL. , .,_ throng," Jtc.
J. w,
EASTjmreTETi.— In the Daily Nem of the 21st
October, in o pamgniph commenting on the recent
in support of the movement for a new
pal (government for London^ it was stated
the object of the Bill was to preserve the
Micient lines of Sonthwark, Westminster, and
Xioadon, or Eattmimtcr. Several readers of the
fAngniph have asserted this last name to be his-
(torioiL If such be the case, will yon kindly refer
me to «ome authority for the nse of the word ?
pEttor Gordon-
MBDUEVAL AND MODERN LATIN AND
GREEK VERSE.
(5«» S. il 248. 289, 337.)
In addition to the works mentioned b)* Lord
Ltttklto!* in your number for October 10, 1 htive
^^in iiiv own libnirythe following^, of various degrees
^■ef 11 'i I have arnmged according to the
^Bv«ir [ablication. It Is a pretty long cata-
^Viogue, but I have no doubt that f«otne of your
HTuden will be able to supplement it. A full
■ ««c»unt of the beat writers of Latin poetry from
fteenth to the eighteenth centuries is p^iven
diJc, in his work entitled Lehen und Wirkcn
rtwjHchsten latcmuchcn DichUr dei XV.—
f/. Jttkrhundert^, Wien, 1827.
AUrandm'iot Philip GnuUier de (Th»til!afi, Pro-
*. ' - 1 ins of Tuufrmy about the year 1200, *. L
^ the celebmted line—
Scvllftin. cupicuBYibire Charybdin/*
i\nd othtT poonMk, about 1450.
Mftr«Ihj*( of Constantinople,
^vnimznnus,
r.izii, father
iijmua Vida,
idu», Amctcrdam,
. pAris. 1570.—
"n^r /J'f'ianft (i.-juiun, i.'j 76), collected by
I Plclohcf aiidothen.«-Da Moain, BiraitkiaM, Pari*,
im-Po
1579.— Adrian Tamebua, Potmat^, Paris, 1580.— Obio-
poeup, de ArU Bihtndij Frankfurt, 1562. — Chrifftcpbiv
Ocland, Anphruai Prodia, London, 1682L — Pindoff
translated Into Latin Terse^ by Sndoriua, Paris, 1582.—
G, Sabiaua, Leiozfg, 1589.— Janus Dou«a, Lcyden, 1691. —
J. Ruxelius, Kothomagi, 1600.— D. Blven»>iircr, VeMm,
Utrecht, i<JOO.—A. Jonjt<m, 1602.— J '' P&emaia^
Leyden, 1602.— BandiuB, Poemaia, Le -Deliiiag
Pottarum Oaihrum, 1 609.— J . 8cali^< i dngo Gfo-
tius, Poemaiit, Amsterdam, 101«J. — Malapt:rtius, Antwerp,
1616.— Famianua Strsda, Proiution^9, oontaiiiing screrid
pieocfl of origiiml Latin poetry, Rome, 1617, reprinted
at Oxford 1745. — Cardinal Barberini (Pope Urbao
VI I L), Poemata^ reprinted at Oxford, 1726.— Thomas
Campnni JSpiurammeUa* London, 1611'. — Paulas Thomas,
Paris, ltj27.— Nicolaut Bcwbomuf,i*omae»a, Paris, 1630.
— W. Dmry, th^matka poemuta, 1628. — Winseaiii
Amorttf Franek^rsD, ]631. — DtUtim Pottmrum Se&to-
rum, Amsterdam, 1637, — Z)«6^ft? ihUtiarvm, A, B.
Wright^ Oxford, 1637. — Alexander Ross, VtrffUuu
SmnmliMaiUf London, 16^18, from which it is pretended
that Alilton copied much of the Eleventh and TvrelfUi
Books of his Paraditt Lost, — Lifcknocauiia f. mutalia
fa€um Mmblemaia^ Light's Moral Emblems, by Robert
Farley, a Scotchman. London, 1638, pp. 70; Kalmdfr
of Mali's L(f€r by tbe same, pp. 74. Both the aibove
works contain translations into Latin, in viuioaa metres,
of the English remes. — Zerecotitu, Blegwu^ ke , Am-
sterdam. 1640.— J. BMtt, Lyi<cat Levden, 1646.— f»w-
v€rh$ of Solomon, in Greek, by Duport, Cambridge, 1616. —
Baotei Heinsins, Poemata iMiina ti Graeea. Amsterdam,
1649.- Ravisias Textor, JCpifframmeUa. Rotterdam, 1651,
— Duport, JoIj, in Greek hexameters, Cambridge, 1653. —
J. Bathurst, transliition of Spenser's Shephtard's Oaim^
(far, 16.^3. —CI. Quillet, CaUipaed*a, Leyden, 1655 (praised
by Halbm, Lrttraiuit, lit. p. 401),— Caspar fiariasui,
PotinaUi, Amsterdimi, 1655. — Bngenius, Memetkta Ds-
smUffria, the Uaicue, 1655.— Sidronius Hosaohius, MU-
giarum liLri i^r, ittm G. Becani Idyll ia d Eiefftatt Ant-
werp, 1667.— Abraham Cowley, Poemata Lfittna, Lon-
don, 1668.— Petrui Molinieua, HymTU on the ApottM
Crt^d, aho Ecchsitu Ofmitut^ containinfc an attack upon
the ivipnTiijtimtPt n^bidOf Milton, «kc., Cambridge, lo70.
— W. Dillinghani, PoemnUi VaHi j4 rgtimeiifi, London,
167S.— Joebua Barnes, History of Either in Laii% Htza^^
meitritf London, 1679.— J, CommiriuB, Latin and Greek
poems, Paris, 1681.— Rapin, Carmina, Paris, 1681.—
Selfrtff Poemata Italorum^ od. by Bishop Atterbury*
London, 16S4.— J. Aurati Paematia, Paris, 1686,— Par-
then iu», PUcatorta it Nautica, Naples, 1686.— -^gidlus
Menafdus, PotmiUaf Amsterdam, Wetstein, Sth ed, 1687.
— fi*/i<i« Danorum PoOamm, Leyden, 1693.— Francias,
Poemata Latina et Qr^oitca, Amsterdam, W2^.--The Pro*
rerbt qf Solom^tn, in Latin hexameters, by G. Hogaeus,
London, 1699.— J. A. Thuani Poemata .Sacra, Paris, 1699.
—P. Huetins, Utrecht, 1700.— T, Dibben, translation of
Prior's Carmm Stculaif, London, 1700,— Greman. trans-
lation of Boileaa's Epiire ntr V Amour de Dieu^ Paris,
1706.— Jfu<a< Briiat^nicae, London, 1 71 L—P**/***, trans-
lated into Greek hexameters by Duport.— Da la Monnoye,
Pormata, La Have, 1716.— Father Francis Noel (Prank-
fort), 1717.— M, Maittaire. translation of several Greek
poems into Latin vers*?, London, 1722. — Albert Ines,
Lyrieorum HAcroamatum Kpiyrammatkorvm CmturiaM^
3rd ed., Cologne, 1723.— J. A. Vnlpius, PaUrii, 1705.-
Sdeda Poemata Ar<:fn7mldi Pi' ^'fitlmi Scot a
TkirkiiadiM, Tkmw £ineadu, irgh, 1727.—
CarmiiM Qwndmguimatia, Oxt Prior's SoU^
7H0H. on (Kt Vanity ofiht World, traosUted by W. Dobson,
Oxford, 1734.— Lntm andEnglish poems, by a Gentleman
of Trinity College, Oxford, London. 1741. — Vanierius (a
Jesuit) Pmtdmm. Rusticum, Toulouse, 1742.— Jftwoe
NOTES AND QUERIEJ
Mheioricaff P&rii, 1745. — Carding] FoYifSJiACt Afiti-Lucrt*
tiKj, Paris, 1746. — Adiiani Rolandi, Po^nmUif Utrecht,
nAS.—Po«mata Didatcalica, Pftrin, 1749.— Joseph Beau-
tnontp original Poems in Eagliah aod Latin, C&ra bridge,
1749, — Milton's Paradist io*(, traiwkted intu Latin hcica.
meters by W. Dobson* Oxford, 17£»0. — Pope, Eisay on
Matkt tmnalated into Latin hcxauietcraby J. Q. Am-ende,
Leyden, 175L~P. J, 8aut«l (Jesuit), Lmus Po^tici Alle-
fforici, Parii, 1753^ and Gabriel Madelenetua. — 1:^. Bishop,
Feritu Pmtxcae, hondan^ 176G. — P. Maaenitta* SarcoUiei
(Paris, 1771), to vhom Milton is said to be indebted for
many of his grandest ideas.— J. Burton, Opuscuia MiictL
lanta Afcfn'oo-srojaica, Oxford, 1771. — Satitenii Carminaf
Utrecht, 1780— J. Farsetins, Leyden, 1785.— Coi^cfio
Potfarum BUffiaeorum stylo CafvUiano rt Oridwno, by
C. Michftpler, Librarian, Imperial Library, Vienna,
4 vols., 1785-1789 (from the library of Dr. Samuel Parr).
— I>r Jortin, Lujus Poelid^ in tnlscollaneouB tracts,
London* 1790, — Samuel Butler, Potttiata utriiaqut
Jjirttfuae, Cambridge, 171^7. — 0§nani Darlhula Oractr
Mfddi(a,\Y, Herbert, London, 1 801 .-^T. Wurton. Potmaia
Ifexamefra H Epiqrammata, ed. by R. Mant, Oxford,
1802.— N. Kerr, Pmmiia, Oxford. 1802. — Bloomeeld*!
Farmer' t Boy, translated into Lattn hexameters by W,
Clubbe, LL.B„ Ipswich, \m%--MiiceUaneQtt4 Poetical
TraiutaiwHSt by lie t. P. Howes, London, 1806,— Alex-
andre Viel, translatioB into Latin hexameters of F^nelon's
T^Umaqu^, Paris, 1808* — P. Hodgson, miicellaneoua
Poems, English and Latin, London, 1809. — Poeivu, Latin,
Orcek,and Bnglbh, by N. Hardlnge, London, 181 3.— Orfcu
Lfttinnf, T. J. Mathias, Naples, 1B19. — Nmjag Mdru^t,
by Sir H, Halford, Bart,, \%il.Sdva€ Hecrhiioxft, Dean
Herbert,2nd ed,, London, lM^.—Potmata et Insert ptionfs^
itovii auxit Savaffitut Lanchr, 1847. — Oems of Latin
Poetry, Andrew Amos, Cambridge. 1851. — H. Stadel-
mmm. Farm VaHorum Carmina^ Qnoldi, 1854.— Hood's
Smwited Home, translated by P. A. Longmore, London,
ISfiS. — M. Seyffert, Carmina Latina^ Leipzig, 1857. —
CanufMrf J. Stuart Blackie, Edinburgh. 185iJ. — /*n>-
lufionetf Orateae et Latinatf Raleigh Treveljan, 2nd ed*,
London, 1864, — Fuuciculu^, edid^runt L. (iiUley *!t R.
Thornton, London, 1866.— fTeipfriciMm SHfUrri, Brady,
Tyrrell and Cullinan, 1867.
H. A, HOLDEN.
School Hotjse, Ipswich.
I think that, on makinjij Catulo^mes of these pub-
lished prodiictioDs, it would foe eidvisable to divide
theoi into two classes : (1.) Original Poems ; (2.)
TranelationB. It would 9(^em to have been the
general practice in former yetu-g for original copies
of veraes to have been composed on a «et subject or
tbesta, such rw those in the Mum! AngHcantr. and
Carmina QuadrageHmaiia^ ihotigh^ cerUiinly, Vin-
cent Bourne \u\s a few tranalations from English
poetry. In more recent days, the practice of setting
measLgen from English poets for tninshition into
Latin or Greek verse became nsiia^ and, as ex-
cellent specimens of scholarship of this kind, there
are the Anindine^ Cami, the AntJwh^ia Oxo-
nietnitf and the ^abrino! Corolla.
John PicKranD, M.A.
Newbonme Rectory, Woodb ridge.
The translation of Enoch Arden into Latin verse,
by the Rev. Prof. Selwyn, of Cambridge^ published
by Moxon in 1867, should be added. F. H. H.
r'u_.„*,.»J..,T
SIR CHRISTOPHER WANDE8F0RDB, U>RD
CASTLECOMER.
(S^h S. ii. 327)
Born 1502, at Bishop Burton, Yorkshire; van of
Sir George WamleHforde of Kirklingtoo ; educated
at Clare H:ill, Cftin bridge \ M.P. 1638 ; a manaiTr
of the impeachment of the Duke of Btickingbi:
aci>oiiipjinietl Lord Wentworth to Ireland m M' ■
of the Rolls, 1633 ; knighted, 1636 ; Lord De^i n
lt!4tl; created Baron Mowbray ^nd Vift«*uL.
Caatlecomer ; died 1640. His works publi-hed
by his descendant, Dr. Comber.
The portrait at Leeds Ethibition, 1868, was in
the possession of the Rev. H. G, W. Comber. It
was a good one, very highly finished, more like
Coraelma Jan sen than Vandyck i but there i»
an engraving by Watson, after Vandyck, whicb
may be from this picture. See Evana'a CattlogOft,
No, 1U9IL RjLLPH N, Jamsl
P.S. — A long notice of Wandesforde ia to be
found in Hailstone's Yorkshire Wort-
there were only fifty copies printed, I «i
where Curio could find one, and it is a i» .t-^uiu.*
book.
The Wandesfords were a Yorkfibire f;r
in 1660, Sir Christopher Wand eafordwa
and had his estate sequestered* But at the I
kition he was sworn ot the Fnvy Council, aii'''.
17n6j advanced by Qneen Anne to the pecri.'
Ireland, a.** Baron WaDde»ford and Viscf^iuif ( t^tlf
comer (not Castle Comer). He died in Lotiduo J
1 3th September, 1707. His grandson John, fifth I
Viscount Castle comer, was created Earl '^' W"'- T
desford 1758, and died 1784 without i
all his honours becaiue extinct. See Bu.^. . -
find Fe^age, G. W. W.
John, the last Earl, had an only diingbter an«l
heir, Lady Anne, who married John. Earl of
Ormonde/ Fredehic Orvnr,
A memoir of him will be found in Chalnim*
Biog, IHct.^ vol. xxxi. Tlie dates of creation ia
his family were, Baronet, 1662 ; Baron Wan<!«»-
ford and Caatlecomer in the County of Kilk'f^i^i
1706; Earl of Wamlesford, 1758; all of v i
became extinct in 1784, A volume < ^*
writings, together with a memoir of «
Wandeaford, was published in 1778 by ms .:
great-grandson, Dr. Thomas Comber.
Edward Soli,*.
SuttoDj Surrey.
Probably the portrait is that '
WandcHford, who held the Iris-h M
Rolls from 1632 until his death in I
He was a friend of the great St ?
grandfather to the first Viscount <. . ..
waa a leadijig Whig at the time of the J :
AXFBED B. i
Preston,
I
The following extract from Bromley ■» Catahffue
of Engrarcd BrUish Porirait^^ Loiid», 1793, p* 80,
may he of semce to Curio : —
" Sir Chriitopber Wandesfard, Lord Bepoty of Ire*
latid, ot>, 1640. In the Hou^bton Collection. Paitited
ty Van Dyck ; engraved by Watfton. Mczrotint'*
GfouaE iL Trahbrne.
The chief property in the coaJ-mmea of this
pftiish Wfis vested Ln the Wandesford family, to
whom this place gave the title of Earl, now extinct,
and whose representative, the Hon. Uhcirle*^ Butler
Wandeeford, brother of the Mwrquia of Ormonde,
mhejited in right of his motb*-r, the sister *»f the
late Lord Wandesford, and has a handsome
modem residence adjoining the town.
W. H. Oaklet.
Wyfordhy Rectory.
No one of the name of Wandesford was Irisli
Lord Chief Baron since 16! K), or Puisne Baron
aincc 1767, nor i» there Jiny one of tlie natue of
Wandesford in the list of Lord Chancellors, Lords
Cliief Justice, or Lords Chief Justice of the Com-
mon Pleas, aince lf>f>(). I aliva^s iin(lersto<Hl that
t^ founder of the Wandesford family was a suc-
;uJ lawyer, and was disappointed at not finding
name either among the Irish Judges, or on
iWe list of Attorney-Oencmh or Solicitor- Genends
for Ireland since 1690. I should suggest to Ci'Rio
t4i examine the roll of the English judges.
JosEFH Fisher.
Wittrford.
THE ARMS OP SIR PRANXIS BRAKE.
(•4** S. xl 464, 514 ; xii. 35 ; b^ S. ii. 232.)
My attention has been frequently directt^d hy
Cnends to the inquiries of your correspondent
Query, and pressing engagements have caused a
tieb}* from which I expected to benefit by being
Able to deal comprehensively with any further
4|tierte» that might arise in the interval
Your readers are aware tlmt there waA no chance
of reply to Sir William Brake in the Herald and
Ommlogisty as it closed in June last, with the
ntimber containing his article. St ill the advantage
remainn of a wider diffusion of information through
the more popular pages of " N. & Q.,'* and, craving
your permission, for the sake of a name endeajred
to Englishmen, I will involve a reply to Query in
a few remarks on Sir William's letter, leaving my
paper in the Atdwtological Journal to supply
rurther details.
I desire to force my opinions on no one ; the
must ipeak for themselves, and they are
lent to guide the judgment, I only ask your
rs to bear in mind Fullers summary of Sir
CIS Drake, quoted also by Prince, that ** hf loas
vtry ffligioui man, juit in his dealings^ true of
is word.-^ He was a FuritAD, as his letters will
show ; but it requires a peculiar intimacy with the
family's history to state that they were of the same
type, and long continued so. Sly surmise in the
Archaeological Journal respecting Henry Drake,
of Ash, a comrade or proUgl of Sir Francis, is
proved correct by the tone of his letter printed
among the Tnvdyan Papers (Camd. Hoc).
By such men, a prospective ** mansion in the
skies '^ is esteemed more than a town house in Bel-
gravia, and the quartered coat of Percy would be
prchuounced only motley wear ; therefore, by the
aid of a little reflection at the outset, the incon-
sistency of the conscientious Sir Francis Drake
^issuming the arms of a stranger is manifest. Sir
Williani asserts that Sit Fnmcis "desired to
connect himself with the Ash family." For why ?
He w*as on the pinnacle of world-wide fame, whdo
Aah but for him would have remained compara-
tively imknown. Ash itself was mortgaged to him
by Bernard Drake, whose family benefited by his
patronage. Bernard's nephew was nmned Francis
after him, and was styled cousin in his will. Sir
William attaches no importance t-o this in proof
of relationship. It would be more extraordinary
if all of bis surname then in Devon had not a
common origin. The term cousin will generally
disclose kinship when due research ijs possible ;
even when used formerly by crowned heads it im-
plied as much. Witness the policy tif Henry VII,
to prove his nobles allied to him in blood {CoU.
T&p. tt Gen,),
Query is quite correct in stating that the entry
in the C'OUege rif Arms (F. 12, fo. 164) was not a
*^ propoMd addition " to the grant. It is evidence
sepanitely recorded in a different handwriting, and
probably appended by Garter expressly to prevent
future question. It is on one of the folios in the
middle of the voloyic, and not on the *^ fly-leaf,"
as Sir William mistakes. If, however, the book
is made up of a collection of loose papers, of which
the draft of the grunt to Sir Fnincis was one, we
obtain the valuable evidence that the entry was
considered authentic and important enough to
secure the preservation of the fly-leaf.
To enable the geneml reader to form his opinion
of this portion of the evidence of Sir Francis
Drake's title to the wyvem, I here re-quote it : —
*'Yet^ notwithstanding the sayd Sir PrnunciB Brike
may by prerogative of hi< birth, nnrl by right de«c«nt from
his auncestor, beftr the arms of hi<i itanuime »nd fvnily^
to wit, Argent. » waver drii|;Qn geutes, with the difference
of ft third brother, aa 1 am credibly informed by the
teittmony of BHm&rd Drake of the Countv of Devon,
Efiqaire, Chief of that Oot-arniure, and sundry othecv of
that family of worship and good credit.'*
So far clear ; but from the rough draft, when
describing the crest, were struck out the words,
"a red dragon volant sheweth itaelf " on board the
ship, and this omission, among others, I accounted
for in the Herald and Otnialogist without marking
the distinction between the rough draft and the
372
NOTES AND QUERIES,
15* S. II. KoT* 7, *
rider to the grant. Sir Willbm proves that, not-
withntandixtg this cancel, the dragon m to be seen
in the CoDege of AnuB so *^ depicted by Vincent "*
on the crest of Sir Francis, and that it was so borne
by " the famHj as late a^ 1740." I have elsewhere
indicated where it miiy be so seen repeatedly, and,
in all caaee, an bonoiirjible charge. If, theo» the
dragon was practically re-ini;tatcd ut the time, after
having been cancelled in the draft, a fortiori the
unim peached testimony of the appendix reveals the
unchallenged title of Sir Francis, I submit the
case.
Sir William errs in ascribing to me the assertion
that ** Prince stands convicted of mis-Btutenient in
describiDg the arms of iJr^ike of Ash© arg., a
wyvern gu!es." I meant thtit Prince's story of the
Qneen*s petulance, in hanging up the wyvem by
the heels in 8ir Francis*i3 crest, to disgrace Sir
Bernard and to commemorate^ an alleged quarrel,
tnma out to be nntme. As to the arms of Bralce
of A^h, that i|ue8tion ia aptirt from Pi'ince, and
wiH be found more fully discussed in the AtiIxt-
chgic4jl Jounuil, where Sir Bernard is proved to
have been the lirst of his liouse to resume the
ancient wyvera. This brings me to Query's
question about the monument, which Sir William
cites to prove the use of the wyvem by Sir
Bernard's fatlier. I sketched the nmnument years
ago; it was partly erected {in IGll) by Sir
Bernard's son, was finished by his grandson, and,
therefore, furnishes no evidence to the point. Yet
it is not without its import. Over each of the
three shields placed on it is an eagle displayed,
which crest was used by Sir Francis on his seal,
and was engraved over his arms in his folio por-
trait; while the crest allowed, in 162t>, by the
College of Anna, and used by the Drakes of Ash,
was a dexter arm grasping a battle-axe, the same
as they had before borne with their distinctive coat
of a chevron between three hzdberts, and with
which coat it well htu-monized.
Since it is sought to overrule, with Prince's
hearsay evidence, the concurrent testimony of wit-
nesses who lived and died before Prince was bom,
it ia necessary to examine into his trustworthiness
as a county biographer. Without enlisting other
charges, let us consuler his evidence and treatment
of the one family of Brake. He took no pains to
identify the father of Sir Francis Drake, an e^isy
task in his time, and one that ought naturally to
occur to a biognipher ; he left it for n% and,' by
the way, this simple case may undeceive Sir Wil*
liam, by showing that, with our modem appliances,
the " lapse of 300 years " offers no insuriuoun table
obstacle to the discovery of historical truth in
all crises. Prince did not stop to extinguish or
otherwise the several brothers of Sir Francis. He
gave incorrect and idle evidence concerning the
anna without looking into the grant for the tmth,
and he stated that Sir Francis was " once married*'
when his widow waa hiJi iecond wife, a Cu^ not
overlookc»d by Stowe (see abo ** K "^ ^!* "^8.
iw). Although mixed up with th" Sir j
Bernard, coneeraiog whom in p.^.. f i§ i
sought that his testimony shall be accci
tra at worthy, he states that, after the att
gaol fever in Exeter, "Sir Bernard had Bin
enongh to recover home to his House in Asfa^ j
not enough to overcome the Disease, for be
thereof soon after, and was buried in bis '
of Musbury a.o. 1585 ! in an Isle of wkich tfe
several Monuments, but, I think, no Epitaplis.-
Sir:
ht
i io\
reit:;
1H48 :— '*Mt.,
There are epitaphs, and the one
Bernard, inscribed IGU, does not
was buried, but states that be died *'
He did not reach Musbury, but ^
Crediton, within a more easy d; '
miles from Exeter) ; and th<
Crediton records that Sir Beiu.»ir-
was buried 12tb April, 1586.
Princess ignorance or reticence c
death and strange burial of Sir Ber
heir has been matter of surprise to
see Yonge's Diary^ Camd, Soc,
John Drake, of Ash, die<l the llth of April, 1<S2^J
and was buried privately the same night, htxag
Good Friday," The epitaph in Musbury agrew -
in diit^.
Lastly, Prince says that Shr John Drake (thtJ
great-grandson of Sir Bemiu^d) lived in retirement]
while Ash was being rebuilt, and died unmarried I ]
In the Act Book at Exeter, I have seen the licence 1
of marriage, January, 1674-5, between this " John
Dnike of Ash, Baronet, and Catherine PrideftQi
of Ford/'
Having shown that, in these instances, Prince j
was inaccurate and careless about seeking infonna*
tion, or verifying what he had acquired, cuutioit^
shoultl be exercised in advancing his testimony ia
opposition to that of disinterested and older j
writers. Itjs not within my province at pn
to answer Qttery's other question.
HsyRY H. DiLAKS.
London.
f A note on the above subject, by Sir Will iam Drskejin
are reluctantly compelled to defer till next week.}
« The Bihtkrfly's Ball '* (5*^ S, ii- 327, mt$
— Being indebted to Z. Z. for some vn !
foTOiation through " N. & Q.,** I h
pleasure in answering her questions. Tlml Jilr*, j
Somerville should have attributed this to MimJ
Fanshawe seems to me curious. Thut
author of the " Enigma " (so Allibone <
the letter H., but W. Roscoe wa^ '^
ButUrflys Ball^ as a reference (it
other) to an easily *accessible book ,..
Quarterly Rtviar (June 1B12, p. 266) sai-s ;—
** Mr. RoBccte itill continaes to be estimatetl l>r Ul^
first ftnd bett p«i formance, exoeptinjc, indeed, to uri
^iiA
m
und more popuiur test has been fumidhed by
litf Tcnea, lome af ii'hicb poaiets conAiderable meriL
I Among the t*iter wo would particularly mctatuce two
l»ag»t<5lU pr^Cei^ Tht Butterfl/i BaU and Th BtUtet'Jty^t
L J\i^^ai, which might not ufuip% be described bm a pair
pf briiiuinli.**
[of >
flu y.i '■ ■ /.'
Sriti-h 1 'i if'.
*• la oup re»
of tb««e i
amid del'
befttd of i- ^
3f5le FuKts' Urand Gaia^ &c.
of one of the numerous imiLitions
fhji Hall^ ntiniely^ The ConrfrtM of
'i^: or, the Fka'i Turtk Fcani aiul
f'tdl^ tt satificiil po^m, 180S, the
f(/i Ball and Tlu; Pea-
ttemptt at «n imitation
... But no warning
imltaiors; and w« have
Th^. LiofCi Ma^qufTadtf
nay even Th€ Roxt'i
BrtakfaiL''—{\o\. xiii. p. t>5».j
Ta these may be added Tht EUphanfs Ball (by
W- B.) . * . iUustnited by enrnviogs [by W, Mul-
teoiijl 18u7 ; The Bogles Masque^ by Tom TiJt
.[pstTidJ] [London], 18(18; The Emperor's Eont;
or, thii Ptivft of Uu MoUla [in verae], a companion
I to the celebrated Buttcrjltfs Ball . . . Ltjndoir,
CliArles Tilt. 1831, and The BoianUai and Horti-
cuHural Mtding ... in imitation of The Balkr-
a Lady, from Notes by John Quill,
,1634.
at Home is the other work men-
I tioneti by Z. Z. It is an astonishing thing that^ if
I ft vfr.rL 1^ .ince attributed to a particular person^
no ! aufEcient to efface the wrong, even
thou^ 1 by the pemon to whom the work m
■KTongly attributeti. It in now upwards of MLxty
years since Miss Ciitherine Fanshawe denied with
iodignalion (!) that she was the author of The
Ffocodi at HtnHt\ (See British Critic for Nov.,
18<i7, Preface, p. xvit and p. 555). Hie Feaeock
I tU Hquh h given in the Biographical DicUonary
of Livifuj Auth<»-$j ISIG, to Mrs, Dorset, sister of
th*^ Lite Mra, Charlotte SmitL The title-page
s it to be '* a sequel to TliC Butterfly's
i 1 18 "illustrated with elegant engravings"
[^i'\ ^> . Mulrciidy?).
Thijj^ like the other, produced imitations ; for
eianipWi " The. Pencoek and Fairot on tluir Tour
in Search oftht A nthor of * The Fe<icock at Ifome/
nngnivinga^ Lon<L, Harris, 1810." I take
titl© from Watt's BibliotJieea, and do not
for ita accuracy. Olphar Hambt.
5ew Bamet, Herts.
I think there can be no doubt as to the author-
ohip of this «?legant juvenUe poem. It will be
* ' V '^ Foeticul Worh of William Boxcoe,
It Also appeared in a little volume,
ili^'^ 1 uKoi$ by t^* ^f f^rrs of a Family Cirehj
oail ftttnbnted to ( ! family. The edition
of Roiooe'a poems .x^^,^ ...ined is very imperfect,
pfieo«9 being omitted which came from hia
William E. A. Axoisr,
k
The only information I can give i« derived from
my uiother, whose ejirly daya were p:issed in
Liverpool She always spoke of it as the work of
Mr. Koacoe, and I did not know tlmt there was
an)-* doubt about it. She also intimated that it
was a sort of squib, originating in some civic
entcrtiiionient, so far as I remember, and that the
iliuatrations were portraits, or caricatiu^s, of Liver-
pool notabilities of that time. I have never seen
a copy of the original edition, and mention the
above particulars as I heard them years ago, in
the hope that some one better informed than iny-
mlf may be able to authenticate them.
W. E. Buckley.
This poem was written by Charlotte Smith,
afterwards Mrs. Dorset. She also wrote Tfis
Peacock at Home. Mrs. Dorset resided for many
years at Brighton, where she died about 1828.
" Sonnets by Charlotte Smithy with plates after
Stotliard and other artists," were publii^hetl in
1797. S, D. S.
" Like to the damask hose tou see/* &c. (5*** S.
ii, 227, 296, 336.)— It seema to me that we are all
WTont; in some way about this little poem except
Dr, £. CoBnA3i Brewer, who does not point out
the author of the words in question, but of the
originiU from which they were probablv derived.
All who quote Simon WasteU's Micrdihlia {sic)
upon the authority af ISIackay's A Tliottaand atid
One Gems of Poetry^ have been misled by their
authority. The Microbiblion of Simon Wastel is,
as the author expresses it, ^' The Bible's Epitome,
in verse,'* and does not contain anything of this
kind. Sinmn Wastel was of Queen's College,
Oxford, and, when he followed on his paraphi^e
of the Old Testament by another upon the New,
he was *^ Bchoole- Master of the Free-Schoole in
Northampton. '' That was, probably, after 1629»
Again, the poem has been attributed to John
PhiUipott, who was a herald making ^'Church
Noates of Kent," "as marshal and deputy to
Camden." I think Phillipott was Somerset Herald.
The credit of authorship rests in that case upon
MSS. Harl 3917, fol. 88 b, which contains his
" Notes," with only one stanta of the poem. Upon
this the learned editor of " N. & Q." remarked,
** These lines are on the tablet at the base of the
monument of RichHrd Humble, Esq., Alderman of
London, 1616, in St, Saviour's, Southwark." It
would, therefore, appear that the first stanza only
can be traced so far back, and that it was a popular
inscription upon monuments. Next, in " N. & Q^
Dec. 14, 1867, Dr, Joseph Rtx, of St. Neot^s,
supplies the whole poem, and say?, " I think in
some periodical." I copied not from any periodical,
but from some book of songs of the seventeenth
century, in which I found it aaoribed to Frands
Quarles. It has been some time my habit to copy
literaiim ; therefore I did not ftltempt to corccdi
^k
374
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[«»*arLNov,T,7l.
Uia obvious gmmmatical blunder tn the text It
nmy serve as a guide to the source* which I now
forget. ]VIy interest in the word^ amae from their
having b^en sung iiboiit the Mtreets as a pious
ballad in the seventeenth century^ and from iindioLj:
many other ballads ** to the tune of * Like to the
daniask roite/ or * The Dauiixsk Rose.' '* One of
these is a lively parody in the Roxboighe Collec-
tion, L 2()I, "Like to a dove-cot never haunted*^'
It is entitled —
" Pretty comparijoiu wittily grounded.
Which by flconcfull mnidena iiiajt»e«t be expounded."
Wm, Chappell.
" Abulyiements " (5^^ S. ii. 32B.)— This odd-
looking word is merely an old Lowland-Scotch
spelling of hnhilimmif. The spelling ahuhiemenU
(with z) is misleading, aa the old character, which
certainly somewhat resembles a s in the MSS,, is
nothing but a y, and the peculiar shape of it is
directly deducible from the Anglo-Saxon 35 (g\
whichj in some words, was so modified as to take
the sound of y. A good instance is seen in the
name JJalyell^ often niisspelt Dalzid^ though few
are so hardy as to pronounce the latter form with
a z sound. Some editors carried this curious mis-
print to a ridiculous pitck Thus, in Percy's
Bdiques, a ballad beginning—
" Quhy doii your brand sae drop wi' bluid,"
is actually printed "Quhy dois zour brmdj" &e. ;
and the words ze^ zottr (for ye, yourX are repeated
very many times. I have even htard an un-
initiated reader say zie^ ^ur (with a z sound), in
reading this ballad !
My experience of Bailey's and Kersey's Bic*
tionaries is that they swarm with blunders^ and
frequently fail. It wtm a copy of Kersey's THc-
fionary which (as I have shown in ray edition of
Chatterton) first mystiHe^i Ohatterton, and then
enabled that daring young poet to mystify his
readers. Much better guides are Dr. Stratmann s
Old-EmjlUh DicUoimrif (2nd e<iition), The Profnp-
iorium Parimloruinj and Jamieson^s Scottish
^Mietiojutry. The smtiJl edition of Jamieson has,
ig.f the following articles : — " AbidUmait^ dress/'
e,; "Abuhjcit, Abilyeit^ dressed , apparelled/' &c*;
* M // ihftmt ii i is^ A htilyemtntu^ d ress, iu;cou tre men t ;
appanitus, of what kind soever." Even the small
Glossar}' to my Svecimens of Engli9h, 1394-1579,
has the word Aoilyeit^ with a reference to the
thirty-fourth line of Gawain Douglas's pTohgne to
the. Tuxlfih Book of the jEntidy where it will,
accordingly, be found, Walter W, Skeat*
Cambridge.
In The Promptorium Parvuloruvif "Abu lie,
habilis; Abulnesse, hahilitcu" ; and so AbuhU-
mtnts = habiliments, as it is printed in the edition
published at Oxford, by Talboys, in 1837, under
the superintendence of Peter Hall, who unfor-
tunately adopted the practice of the previo
editor, the Rev. Josiah Pratt, and ^^
orthography, even of the poetry, to
The editor of The Cnfpt might have ... ^ .. <..,.-. ^ij
to have preserved every vestige of antiquitr.
bis Preface to Bishop Hall's Jror^, p. 5, be rcfcn
to one printed composition of his of which he ^
not able to obtain a tmnscript. This i* a coo
gratulatory poem addressed to King Jame^a L
his accession to the throne in 1CU3. But onec
is known to exist, and that imperfect at the eni
and as he made seveml applications to the owaef ^
(a barrister in London, well known for bis liler»iy
rarities) w^ithout the happiness of obta^ining m
much as a reply, he could say nothing of the con*j
tents of the volume, or the grounds on which
wiis attributed to the Bishop. Wb: " " ri<|
here referred to? Has it been •
1837» and, if so, where is this pic* l
found? W. E. BucKLKT.
AaTHUR May^waring (5*^ S. iL 2S*^.)— Tha]
following, extracted from memoranda made
years ago, may be acceptable to F, S, AA«r I
notice of Roger May n waring, D.D., some lie
C'baplain to Charles L, and subsequently Bishnp e
St. David^s, ray memomnda are thus continued 1
Another member of the family seated at Ighttield
Sidop, and the last of that branch of the nain^
was Arthur Maynworing, a person more widelyl
known. He was a powerful political writer «nd|
satirist, and commenced bis public career a&
adherent of the House of Stuart, but cb.'mged it
favour of the party of the Revolution. He sat
Parliament^ for Preston, in 1705, and became J
finn supporter of Sir Robert Walpole, He die
at the age of forty- four, in 1712 ; and three ycatB^
afterward Sj Oldmixon publisbed his life and poat^ 1
humous works. His style is said to have been
masterly, and, in the Kit Cat Club, be was t^^
garded as one of its chief ornaments fof
pleasantry and wit.
I do not recollect from whence I obtained I
memomnda, likely enough from Grangers
gmphicfil HUfory^ which was certiiinly
suited by me, though 1 do not possess a copy 1
refer to. I may a<ld, that these Maynwaring* 1
Ightfiefd owed their origin to William. yout\
brother of Sir John Maynwaring, ot ' ''
Cheshire, Kfc. (Warden of the 1.
Blakemere and Cheawardyn, in Sin
the minority of George, fourth Earl ■
and bis wife Margaret (?), the he Ire- . . . ,
of Ighttield, whose arms, chequy or and az. (soios*!
times borne sa.), were quartered by Uieir d#i|
scendants. Their pedigree, brought doWQ to Ifi
wiO be found at the College of ^ms.
Most of the biographical dictionaries
mention of Arthur Maynwaiing. In
the work edited by the late Hugh J. Bos€^ Bi)J
ff» a. U. Kov. r, 7*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
^5
Vbo
_ vet 8ome nmtters of detail, whic!i I have not
noticed (toI sl, 1846). 8b em.
The faUeat account is that writteo hj Oldmixon
in —
" The Life fcnd PostbumouB Worki of Arthur Mayn-
WBTiDjt, Ka<). ; contaiumg BCTeral Originii Pieces, and
Tmn^lntioni in Pros* Mid Verse neircr before Printed i
to wlitch are balded several Political; Tracts written by
him before and after the Change of Minietrj. Lond.
Chalmers, in a brief aecount of Maynwartng, in
Thf (hncral Biog. Dict.y xxi,, p. 502^ Bays of this
life, that, like vX\ the writintrs of Oldmixon, it
luti!»t >j^ read with caution. There is vXm an ac-
UTit of his life printed in The LiviM and Ch^-
fUr* of the mont lllitstrwnt; PtrMtnis, Bfituk and
Foreign, icfu) Dml in the Yfar 1712, Lond*, 870»,
1714, which gives the most important fiu-ts of
Maynwaring's life. Edward Solly.
Sutton, Surrey.
Percy Folio MS, Ballads and RoMANCKa. —
jCorredui/i^ (5^ S. ii. 305.)— My friend Mk, Wil-
II.LAM CnAppELL does not approve my au^gestion
I that '* verry " should be rend " herry " in the
{descriptioa of Spencers second steed in vol. ii.
• ^—
•I Tfii that heo wa» vcrry Browne "
ttuae the vtiTy of L 76, dcscribLng the third
T wia tbftt he wm verry blaoke "
[ — b meant to match the previous **verry/' This
[tuny h(? sti, as the MS. does not necessitate any
Jtemtion, but the sentence^
*' Hii palfrey wai aa brown as eoy beryo "
I L 2i>7 in Chancers Prologue to his €<j^ii^iefhufy
Ift. Chappell also deniuni to the proposed
^ feadiDg of IB for h in voL iii. p. UK), I 65,^
** 1 gO^«e thee S pence a day/"
\ he thinks the Queens assurance to Clowdesley
•four lineii below—
" k V\\ glue tbee 13d. % day "
^ 5 making a gentleman of him, and pro-
is son and wife) ia an o^'er that outbids
I he King's 8d., and an otl'or that William
■accepts, to be one of the Queen's archers instead
|t)f thn Kill 's. This again may be so. But 1 take
|lhe • be cumulative, CJowdealey getting
. piM II both King and Queen, as my side-
InoCcs to the fJtLSsagi^ show. At any mte we are
|lold in 1. 677, that after *^ theae good yeomen" had
en ehiiveSf they **came and lined with the King."
F. J. FCRXrVALL.
Tub Early Enolish Cowtraction for Jjatrs
'"i^i.)— There appears to have been in
iT times a division of opinion as to
.... Greek monogram I H S or I H C (for
tW (WO are the same) meant, and it may be that
this division of opinion or ignorance, combined
with a reverence for the original symbol, lad to
the retention of the letters in such form as with
the remainder would make up clearly the whole
word " Jesus."
In the frentkmnn^g Magazine for 1805, p. 1185,
may be seen an engmving of a piece of stained
glass having in its centre the monogram IhO,
and round it*i margin the English inBcriptioa
*' Blessed be Jbesu." The word '' Jhesus" is not
frequently written at length, but the above in-
stance and that mentioned by Mr. Fcjbnitall are
sufficient to prove the fact. There may be other
reasons than ignorance or a kind of superstitious
reverence for the " h " following the *' I/^ — to wit,
Chaucer invariably wrote ** Jhon '■ for " John."
The balance of evidence is apparently in favour
of the belief that I H S was understood in Early
English times to represent the first two and the
last letters of the word ** Jesus," — not the first
three letters, I think, certainly, or we should be
in difficulty when we come to such a form as Ihu :
** Ihilj heavens kyng, je:niuntfl us grace."
or, ** Domini nostri I H V X P 1 " on the medal
of Constantine. The subject, however, is very
interesting, and no apology need l>e made for
reviving it. Utc £T Ubique;
The Blounts of Maple Dotiham {b^ S, ii.
22fl)— Being anxious to prenerve with certainty
the record of the death of Mr. Michael Henry
Blount, of Maple Durham, I omitted to remind
your readers how closely the deceased gentleman
took us back to the time when Pope addressed
his delighlftd letters to the fairsistei^ of his some-
what capricious idolatry. Mr. Michael Henry
Blount, whose death was lately announced, was
great-grandson of Michael Henry Blount, the
brother of the two beautiful girls described by Gay
(whom I inaccui-ately quoted from memory in my
first note) as —
" The fair-hatr'd Martha and Tereaa brown."
In Kubert Carrutliers*s Lifo of Pope is the fol-
lowing reference to the Blount family, which will
at this period be found interesting for more thaja
one reason : —
" Michael Blount, the brother of Teresa and Martha,
married, in 1715, Mary Agnes, drtughterand co-htrir of
Sir J. Tich borne, of Tichborae, Hants, by whom he had
a numerau* family; tbe present proprietor (1857) of
Map«l Durh:im» Michael-Hetiry-if »ry Blount, being his
great-^anJflon."
ISIr. t?arruthers adds that he was " largely
indebted " to the gentleman who hua just died for
materiaLi for his edition of Pope.
Hrnrt M. Frjbt<
Oheveley Villa, Croydon.
A " Washinoton Medal" (5^ S. ii. 3(>8) was
struck to commemorate Washington's retirement
from the Presidency. It is described iti" H'c»iKvcs#i'
ilk
Mm
M
srs
fOTES AND QUERIES
rS»S.IMfcrT.T.«fl
tan and Naiiorml Medah, by James Roae Snowden,
Director of the Mint of Pliiladelpiim." Phil-
tulelphift, 1861.
A similar one, but of ft different Buce, is eoji^ved
in that work, PI. VIL 15, and it is stated tliat
there are two othera of ditferent sizes^ tliis biding
one of them. The reveratj shows the emblems of
authority deposited on a table. T. J. A.
This medal commemorates the resignation by
Waahington of hia c!ommi«Bion and of the Pre-
sidency of the United States^ 1797. I have the
medal struck in white metal, a substance much
employed in medals of that period. The tirtist^s
name, HaUiday, la given under the bust of the
President. If the one referred to is in harder
metal, gold or bronze, it may be a rare specimen,
in conse4uence^ as I believe that the tUes were
broken at the fourth impression, J. Hamilton.
The Kame Jkkifiib (5*»» S, ii. 305.)— This
name appears in more than one west-country
churchyard. I have been told by a good aiithorUy
on ancient names thut Jenifer is none other than
a latar form of the great name Guinevere or
Guenevere. Is this correct I Perhaps one of
your correspondents can enlighten me.
C. Arthur Le Geyt.
Oxford.
Sir William Bavenant (S^* S. ii. 348,)— The
lines quoted by C D. are certainly those of ** rare
Sir William Davenant/' They are entitled " Song "
by Mr. Bellew, in his Potts' Conitr,
Fredk, Ritle.
These verses are printed in the foHo Bavenant
of 1G72-3, nt p. 320. They are in the division of
the book, which hnA a separate title-mge, ** Poems
on several Occtisiona, never before Printed,^* and
are called simply " Song."
John Addis.
Br. Dee's Magic Mirror {5*^ S. il. 86, 136,
218.) — It may be of interest to your numerous
readers to learn something of the history of Br.
Bee's famous magic mirror, which I extract from a
curious work published by il£ CaJiagiidj 1848 :—
*• This mirror WJti bcM In 1812 uiuonv'^t the ouriositiM
in the posgewioii of Horace WaJ]K )e, m i^trtLwhorrj Htll,
for the eDormous sum of three handred and twenty-six
fmnoB.
"^It was simply a bit of cca-coal perfectly poliahcd,
eut in ft circulnr form, with a handle ; this cnriosity
formerly figured in the cabinet of tlie Eatrl of Feter-
borough. In the Catalogue it waa thuB dencribed :— * A
black stone, by meaiift of which Dr. Dee evoked fij>irit«.'
*' It naoed from the hands of tlie E&rl into those of
Lady EliiLabetb fjerttiaine^ then became the property of
John, Ia«t Duke of ArfiryU, wlioee graiidaon> Lord Camp-
bell, preiented it to U^apolc."
The author of the Thiatrum Chaniaim, Klias
P^AshmoIe, speaks of the sttine mirror in the fol-
lowing terms : —
'* fiy the aid of this magic stone^ ve can let i»ba4etfr
persons we desire^ no matter in what pf^rt of the irvrUt
they be, and were they hidden in the mof* retiltd
apru'tmcrjtj, or even in the caverns in the bowckof llie
earth. John Dee. born in London in 1527, t»»» the mm
f>f » wine merchant : ho studied the sciences vith
micceas, and devoted himself, at nn eftrljr perkd« to
judicial astrology. Queen Elizabeth look him ta/Str
her protection. He compoied seTeral useful ir^rii
Whsn he had discovered his mirror he relurrtitd ll«»l»-
oivingi to Ood. He was occupied dtirtng hIa wbele 1H«
m the search of the philoftopber't stone^ and d»«4 in
London at the age of eighty-four, in a ttftto of al^ecs
jjoTerty/*
I think Mr. Blkkkinsoff must be in error ai
to this mirror ever being in the poesesjdoQ of Zad*
kiel, as wherein he writes of magic mirrors in his
Almanacs, and mentions Dr. Dee^ he nercr hist»
at tliia article being in his poeaession, but speakf
of, and gives revelationa froni| Jjody BleBnogtofi't
Magic Crystal^ which, about the year 1850, w« in
great repute in the upper circles in London, i
produced as much excitement at that tune ;;
subseipient itMn<?c*of Mesmeriem and St
In alluding t'O the trial, the Athm(rtim
1874, siaya that Lieut. Morifion^ R.N., 1
action atniini^t Admiral Sir Edward Bel
Queens Bench, for denouncinf; him as m
Various peraons of nink appeared in 1 1
box.^the late Lord Lytton, the Earl oi vv
Lady Harry Vane, and Lord Egerton of Tv
Sir Alexaniler Cockburn presirjed as judge ,
verdict was for the plainti{f,^Zadkiel waa iu<^
impostor! Dr Dee's mirror has been for n-j^i
years in the Briti-nh Museum. I saw it m)^!l
some eighteen years ago. It h not a pink-tuitnl
fjlass hail, as descnbed by Mr. Ellis, bat a lUr
viirror of poluhtd coal^ of a circular fonn, fiti^'i
uHth a handU, That the occiUt studies and pnu-lii:ef
of the sixteenth century should again be rfvivef n
the nineteenth by men of science,
appendage of F.R.S. to their nanies^ hy
the divality of a lady spintnalist mediuio, u
recently given in the Fortnightly RvoimB* WvD^Mi
one of the wouders of the age. J. B. P.
Barboume, Worcester.
" Christ I AxiTT as old as thk CRKAT!o!f,'
&c. (5«^ 8. ii. 149, 175, 195.)— Is not ^In. Non-
GATE mistaken in stating that the Hiqhts of tkj
Chrittian fjf^urch AsscrUd agaifigt (he ItomnA tnui
all oOier Pricfts was written by TindaJ i Swift,
in his Argummt agaijist Abolishing Chr%$tiruity
(the very masterpiece of his prose writing's), E-tp:—
*' In the la«t place, I think nothtnc cnn hv nKrr<? rlt r«
than tliat, by tliifl expedient, vrf
we wliicfty pretend to avoi t, and
the Chrifttian religion will bo tht :
take to introduce Popery. And 1 ju: i
to thie opimon, bee^ufe w© know it hn
practice of the Jeiaita to send ot'
• Fortntffhtly RevitM
Splritualifin."
Mft
1S74,
ff»aiI.S0T.7,74-J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S77
inAtmctioni to pattoiuiie theuuehes members of the
■eTenU pr«TiuIljig seets among iul So it ia recorded that
th^y hftTe at iundry timc« upppRred Jn the disguiBO of
frcwyttffUpf, AtiAbnpti»t8, Indcpeudents, and (Quakers,
^fig AM hT\y of tliese were moBt in credit, m since
Lili 1(111 luM been taken up of exploding religion , the
f^i. „.;-.... T,,^ric.^ haTe not been wanting to mix with
the ' ^ amona^ Vrhom To land, the great oracle
}t>( t : tinn?; is an Imb prieit* the boh of an
Iritii learned and iDgeoirms aittlior
of ii of the Chriitian Churchy and
, ir*8 iu .. , . , .. .. ^.... . ..coudled to the lioniiah faith,
burhofle true mn, &b uppcars by a thousand paAaages in his
LtreatiBC, he stitl coaUnuirs. Perhaps I could udd some
|Oilitri to the muaber,"— SwiftB Prote Works ^ p. 45^
Mr. Prendeigast, in his valuable History of
CwmwfUian SM^ncrU, gives a curious and
E|ntere«ttng iiccmmt of the adventorea of a Jesuit
L miaaioimTy, who resided for a long time in the
iliatise of the Puritan governor of Wexford or
IWaterford, and greatly ingratiated liimiielf with
lAhe family by the fervour with which he joined in
Itheii- daily worship. After the Restomtion this
imiflsioniirj priest cume out in his true colours ; and
llhe historian telk us he could never pass his former
Huuiter in the sitreet without kughing. Had thert^
** I only a bruce of pious missionaries Ln this case^
B would have been Blightiy reminded of the stoiy
: the Boman atigtUB. Hibernia.
'^FiKLD'* (5«»» S. ii. W7, STSO—In order to
imdantADd the meaning of the word *' field," it is
r to extend the investigation over a ** wider
|L" than that <*f a district cleiired of timber since
onqucst. The word is common to all the
onic hui^ia^es^ and was used by our ancestors
fixate the earth itself, not according to our
of a globe, but of a vast extended plain —
de fim Mtklor," '' Earth, Mother of MenJ'
f Vedaa the Earth is emphatically designated
' Parthier MiUar''; and here we see the meaning
^of the root, "Pftrth, or Prsth," conveying the
'Je* of extension — English ** Broad. '^ Although
Ihc latter word is one correlative of the root,
f2 Folde " is no ]e«B certainly another. Compart
* tin j^ratuMf a meadow. G. 0. B,
^iORO CoLLiKowooD (5^ S, ii. 48, 96, 177.)— I
~* the anthority for the descent of Lord
ngwood from the Fair Maid of Kent h the
tfY in the register of the pirieh of Eglingham,
J^onhumberiand, a copy of which to the ifoDowing
tfcct is given at p. 4 of the Corr^jmondmr^ nnd
\ifntmT 0/ Lord ColUnrrnood^ edited by his son-
b-hiw, Mr. Newnham Collingwood :^
" J«wi« «th, 1G86. Buried Mre. Dorothy Coliiri|fwood,
bfidov ' , of Mr. Cuthbert ColIingwo4>d tif Ditch-
'ther waa one of the listers of the Rev*
1 Anthony Grey, clerk. Rector of Bar-
f Kent,
(Witneta) Charles ^toddart, Vicar.
** k^iiugnmm, Mmith 12, 1736-7."
K H. A,
** Make a bwdoe of gold,^^ &c. (4^ S. L, ix,^
X., passim; 5"* S. iL 216.)— Other instanoee of the
occurrence of this s&ying are asked for. Ouicciar-
dini speaks of a iilver bridge : —
^* Host} ablre volenti iter minime intercludeodumj ced
potiuB, ut est in cotntnuni provtrbio, argenteum ei poniem
faciendum extatlmanL"— ifat. liaL^ Ub. ii. p. OS, od Lat.,
Basil, 1566.
Not unlike this is a saying attributed to Scipio
Africanus : —
** 8cipio AfrieanuA dicore Bolitua est, host! non Bolom
dauduin e«ie viom fugiendi, verum otiam muaicndaliL** —
Frontin., StraUg.j ly. 7, 16.
£e* MAItfiHALL.
Sandford St. Martin, Oxford,
The proverb, **A nemico che fugge un ponte
d'oro,'* is in common use among the Italians,
Sir Hknry Che ere, the Statitart (4^ 8. vi.
525 ; vii. 46.)-^The foUowing extract from Leave*
in a Manutcript IHary^ London in 1772, is an in-
teresting addition to the infonuation about Cheere
the Statnary. I quote it from the Academy of
Oct. 17, p. 433:—
" I came out at the Lodge " (of the Green Park) "and
stepped into Mr. Chere's yard, which,, on account of
numberlo&s tigurca in stnno, lead, uid plaster, you would
8 wear was a country fair or market, made up of spruce
squires, hayiimkers with rake» in their hands, shepherds
and sbcphcrdeues, bagpipers, and pipers and fiddlers,
Dutch skippers and English sailora enough to sypplj a
iirstrntc mtn-of-wkr. I saw here a bust mdoh resembling
a picture of Tristram Shandy, drawn by Sir JoshuA
Reynold 9, which I had teen in his painting gallery at
Leicester Field?* One of Chcre's men told me that Mrs.
Sterne abuned his majtcr a good deal, for pirating her
husband's bust, who said, 'twas not done by him, but
sent by some gentleman."
I have been informed by members of the fomily^
that, at their seat at Papworth Hall (Camb,), there
is a lead figure of a gardener resting his foot on a
spade, and that in the south aisle of Winchester
Cuthedral is a moimmect, in maxble, to Bishop
Willis, with the name of the sculptor cut on it ;
and that there is also a mcmument in Westminster
Abbey simOariy inscribed. W. C, Triveltan*
Wallington.
Paris Prisons (b^ S. i. 468 ; ii. 153, 225.)—
In addition to the authorities quoted by Mrs,
Matuilde Van Eys, the following will furnish
your correspondent with much information on thia
subject. I extracted them fr*]m the Catalogue of
the National Library in Paris a few days since : —
** De» Lcttres de Cachet et dcs Prisons d'Etat. Ouvmgo
pofthume compote en 1778 (parMirabeaii). Hambourg,
1782. 2 Tols. in 8?o."
" ha Police devoll^, par Pierre ManueL Parif,
Gamery. An IL 2 rob. 8vo."
** Hifitoire dc« Prisons de Paris et des D^partementf.
Par J. B. ^'ouguret. Paris, Dutray. An V. 2 toIs, ]2mo/'
*' Histoire Politique et Anecdotique des Prisons de la
Seine. Par Barthclemy Maurice. Paris, GuiUanmin,
1810. 8to.**
378
NOTES AND QUERIES.
" Dfi Prisons et des Friioutiien. Par Le Dr. Vingtriuior,
Edn, Vcreaillei, 1840/*
"Histoir^ da Sjatemc Protectcuren Fnmce depuJs le
JlinUtcre de Colbert juHqu'<^ la Ecvolution de 1848. Par
Picn-c Clement. Patw, Guilkumin, 1864. Sto.**
"La Police ioua Louia XIV. Par Pierre Cltmeni
Paris, Bidier, 1866. 8ra'*
There is al&o Tlie Police of Franct, by Sir W,
Mildmay, Bart., London, 1763, 4to., in the British
Museum.
Me. Bouchier would, no doubt, obtain much
viiiimble information by applying to the Pri^fet de
Police, or t-o his Secn^taire-Genemle, Mods. 0. de
Boullement, or to Mons, Jjabat, the Arcbivi^te,
D«^'mrteaient dea Archives, — all at the Prefecture
de Police. Bureaux, 7, Boulevard de Paris, et Rue
de la Cite» Paris. CuARLEa Masox.
India Office. WhitehaU.
*' Antient" (5**> S. i. 408 ; ii, 132.)— In answer
to J. II, B.*s query concern I d^ the word ** antient "
as us^d at the time of the Civil War, I send you
the following list, wbidi is to be found on p. U of
a tract, entitled " God appdarin^ for Ou Parlia'
inent in sundry late Victoria's htatowed upon tJuir
Forces, i^c. Printed at London for Edward Uus-
bands. March 10, 1644/' 4to., pp. 22.
A Lut o/ ik€ Primnjtrt taken at Salop t/a ^^nd da^ *>/
Februart/, }Mi,
Sir Michael Emely, Kt, ; Cupt Pontoabury Oweo.
and bis brother.
Sir Ukhard Lee, Bart.
Sir Thomas Harris, Bart.
Sir Heary Frederick- T by n,
Bart.
8ir William Owen, Kt
Sir John Wjld, ien., Kt.
Sir John >VyldJun., Kt
Sir Thomas Lyster, Kt.
FrAiicia Tiiornes, Esq.
Herbert Vaughan^ l&tq.
Thpmaa Owen, Esq,
Edward KyuuaAtoUt Eaq.
Robert Ireland, Esq,
KiclmrJ TreTia, E8q»
Thomaa Morris^ Egq.
Arthur Sandford, Egq.
llobert Sandford, Esq.
J 'el bam Corbet, Esq.
Thomas Jones. £iq.
Lieut.-Colonell Edward
Owen.
Lieut. 'ColoncU Thomas
Owen.
Major BVancis Ranger.
Doctor Lew in.
Doctor Amewey.
Gapt. Raynsford.
Capt WilUam Lucai,
Capt. John Ore say.
Capt. Tbonaoa CoByni.
Capt. WiBiom Long.
Oxford.
Jobn Pey Feodary.
Capt. Uenry Harrison.
Coasy BenthaB, Gent.
. Edward Talbot, Oent.
Richard Lee, Gent.
' Edward Stanley, Oent.
Francis Mayn waring, Gent.
Jahu Brads!haw, Gciit.
I Johti Jones, Gent,^
I Edward Leigh ton, Gent.
! Peter Dorrington, Getit.
ThotnnB Barker, Gent.
John W Id t taken*. Goat.
Joseph Taylor, Gent.
I Francis Sandford, Gent.
I Richard Oibljona. Gent.
G«^orgo Mayn waring, Gent
I VharUi iaivi i(h, Edward Pal-
mer, Matthew Wit/lUwtcte,
1 A Hcirtiti.
Viticent Taylor, Thomas
Dewe. Humphrey Daviea,
Richard Bruyno, Ser*
(reants.
Nicholas Proud. Clerk.
Master James La ton.
Master Leatlall
MotM Hotchky^.
OQdTfie Back nail, Corporal!.
Patrick Lawry, an Iriah'
man.
Forty -nine other Prisoners,
W. H. Allnutt.
*' 1628. May 30- Petition of John Biddle, of Bronw*
Jrore^ complaining of seditious language iifled by Ralph
QWtuv, ancieni hcMVT oftk company of soldiers billetted
at Brom^grore,"— House of Lord^ BISS., Fourth Separt
of Comm. on Biiiorical MSS., p. 17^
CORXUB.
Gerar<l Leigh, in his AccidenM of Armmy (folio
54), -wTitten during the early part of Uie reign of
Queen Elijtabeth, uses this word when sj "
n crest ; for of the ram he writer—*'
Auncient of that honomble Company of Brap
whom I am one both by birthe and fleniicc.
B. T. H.
Mtlton's *' L' Allegro *' (b^ S. i. 406 ; ii i
153.) — What Milton exactly meant in the
quoted from the VAlUgro must be decided bjrl
use of the woM elsewhere in his poems, I cti
only remember ** the tale of Troy divine " in the
FttiatrosQ and Otwnu^, 44, which certainly i
Mr, AiiTGER^s view. Again, in the tVmia, \
equips the swain ** with his soft pipe and su
dittied song " (86). I confes.^ 1 had alwayn
of Mb. Brown k's opinion with rcfjard to thi^j
sage. Six o'clock iseems early for love-i
Mr. Ainger says j but Claril)el, in one
best-known song^, Fitt o cloth in iiit
represents wooing sia going on actively
sooner. I have looked out every passage in wh
Milton uses the verb " teBs," " telling," t^e,, fin
none of them mean anything but infortm ■
ing. Telling a love-story is an occupn
suited to L\iUrfjro ihtm counting a tloi-k ut riwrp ;
besides which, to make the shepherd count ihem ]
" under a hawthorn '' seems a needless additioiL (
It is a verj"^ proper canopy for a love-atory, how-
ever. Therefore I think there can be no possible
question but that Mu. AiNOEii'8 view is right, ood
that Mk. Browne's and mine are w^rong.
PELAorua
" The Grim Feature'' (4*** S. xii. pauim ; 5*
S. L 52, 236.)— I should not have reverted to this
discussion had I not, within the last d^y or tvj*
eome over a parage in Lutiniers iyemion* (second
before Convocation), which seems* to me to j
to put the question at rest. Speaking of
persons and practices common at tha^ '*
says, " Some of them engendered one,
such fitiiresy and every one in that be wa.3 ;..
of, was exceeding politic, wise,' &c. Mok
fdur€ evidently means progeny ^ offapring^ jdi
the Lfitin f^rXus^ of which it is dearly tLe
rivative.
Milton, foBowing Scripture, and especiallyj
remarkable passage, James i. lo,* makes *"
the child or ofispring of tSin (see Faraditi ,
♦ James 1 15. OT ^wo€tvitiit Schlensher Fays^ ** Verbi*
proprium prsegnantium, qtiie fcetum maturum emitC
et deponunt,'* and upon this passage in particuli
^*^ aftaprla dtroKviJ dauaroif et peccatum cau^a infclici'l
tatis et popnarum eyadtt; uUi afiapria Teluti uiolwr j
Apu«tolu introducitur, quo habitu tam virtutdf^ qoi
Titia a gentilibuB delineari constat,'*
Kta
B* 8. IL Nov. 7, 74J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
379
Book iL, from 11 745 to 805, in which occur, hn
spoken by Sin^ I. 780, ** odious offapring," and
L 804, ** Grim Death, mj son and foe "), I aub-
init» then, that Milton uses the word ** fenture *' in
the same sense as Latimer used it, nnd that the
only difference is the spelling, which is a matter
of no moment.
Supposing this view to he correct, then " Grim
Death'' and "Grim Feature" are nothing more
than synonymous expressions.
Edmund Tew, M.A.
Eglinton Pbbraok (5** S. L 302, 393.)— As
my silence on another subject has been miscon-
led, it has occurred to me that it may have
n so in this instance also. H. T. ha^ written
thout looking into this matter. He seems not
be aware that nine-tenths of the Peers of Scot-
have ** eetablished '' their Chums in the same
Mr. Fulton attempted to do, namely, by
ng into Holyrood House and rccordiug their
Yoiea. The section of the Act quoted has no »uch
declomtion as H. T. aUeges. If it had, I must
have been idle indeed when I took up the pen on
ic subject. W. M.
Edioburgh.
f'
recently published, Incjuiry concerning him had
been made simultaneously in Engbnd and in thm
country* Uneda.
PhiLTdelphift.
Skating Ltteraturk (5* S. il 107, 156, 318.)
— Mfu Foster inquires for the fuU mime of the
" Mass. S. 8. Society," which published The Skaia,
18mo. cloth, 75 cents, 1864. It is '* The Massa-
chusetts Sunday School Society/ and the work
referred to is a juvenile religious story.
Gaston de Berneval,
rhiladelphia.
^yfcHaniauf.
(Mar-
"WArrEN'D Widow ^ (5"» S. u. 224, 314.)—
The title of an old Scottish song preserved among
~ Herd's Collection (vol. ii. 112 ; Reprint, Glas-
18G9) may go some length in iixing the
lag of this term, a p. p., and eeemincrly of the
irb fa leap. This title, in form of a direction or
adrioe, stands thus : " Wap at the widow, my
laddie^'' the second quatrain of the song being, —
** With courage attack her baith early and late ;
To kisi her, and clap bcr, you msnna be blate»
Sp«Ak well, and do httitr, far that's the best gate
To win a young widowj mj laddie."
in the glossarj* annexed, wajt^ is said to be *' a
•J3 stroke.** To imp, the verb, then, is to strike ;
If this \>e gnmted, what is ** wappen'd " must
it which is loaded with stroke^^^well beaten
well threshed. Some such view of the import
that center tained by Mr. Dyce, who, in the
:io«iJ«iry to his edition of JSfmhfpearef in voce
Wftppen'd/' citing Harman, Dekker, and Grose,
leryncta it as ** over- worn," a view which Dr.
K (p. 224) seems also to concur in, who
the " most reasonable conjecture is that
^^ . ; from wai}pen'df "worn, weakened." A
' wappen'd widow, ' then, seems one well threshed,
ver worn in a certain way ; and it is gold, as
by Timon sap, that makes her " wed
*Ti» Savace'' (5«» S. I 421} ; U. 95.)— A
' - -^onnt than any heretofore published of
ijtmion, the author of *' The »Sarayc, by
-liAix.^y/* is to be found in the number of The
imuan liuUmtal Eccord for October, 1874,
NOTES ON BOOKS, ko.
The Quarterly Review, No, 374. October, 18T4.
my,)
I?f the evor-flcjuHshinit Qnarterltf there » invmriably one
article which ia pre-^tnioently attractira. In the present
number there are two. but all are of first- rate quality.
The parttcakr two are *• The Jesuiti/' and •' The Re-
public of Venice, ita Dec line and Fall." Ia the Society
and in the Veuotian Government tbt^re was a remark&ble
system of secrecj', of tyranny, and of sharp superviaioa
oTtr the tery chiefs of the reirpiectiTe inBtitutioni. Tbe
practical executants of Loyola's theory desired notliiitg
more th&n beini; allowed to carry on tbelr work without
criticitm* The Venetian Government was so jealous, that
\t woald puniBh a man even for pralaing it ; such praise
being taken as an impertinent judgint'n ton a system whick
tolerated no juLigmi.^at and deipLscd all npiTiiona. There
is an admirable nrticle, entitled " The I1ot>c of EngUflh
Architecture,*" and another on" Modern Oulture," which
is written in excellent spirit.
Thf ElemoiU o/ &retk Accidence, With Philological
Koiu. By Evelyn Abbott, M.A., cf Balliol College,
Oxford. ^EiTingtons.)
This annotated Accidencif Mr, Abbott says, arose from
i\n attempt to prondo a Greek Primer, which, being
told by those to whom ho had referred the laoie that
it was torj hard and too shtjrt, he haa supplemented
with adJUional matter and notes, and thus truusformed
into, afl it were, a Primer of Gre<;k Philology. Whilst
the arrauKenjent of subjects is that recjuired by the
order of itnitlyfis, the teacher is left to decide for himself
the priority of the eleven chapters into which tbe book
is dlrided. To Tcry many masters the i^reat Httroctioti
of Mr. Abbott's work will be that it treats of the forms
which arc common and reitular rather than those that
are rare or remarkable ; as he very justly says, ** a gram-
mar which is a collection of irregularities ia not a book
for beginners, but for scholars."
Handy- Book of ikt Puhh'e Wortkip RtmtUttion AM*
Edited by ^. G. Brooke, Barrister-at'Law. (H, S.
King k Co-)
Those who are cognizant with Mr. Brooke** Handjf*
Book of the fritk Ctiurch Act and his Sir Pmirif Council
JwtgjAenti, would have been sunirised had he not ap-
[died his hand to the work of rendering th€ Act of th*
ast Bcsaion of Parliament " intoUigitde to the non pro-
fessional reader/* The Act is gircn in tjctentCf and also
in a form allowing of copious notes bearing on the
ecclesiastical law, kc^ which, together with the Index
at the end of the volume, txti most Taluable. We veotore
to think that both sides in the coming struggle would do
well to avail themselves of Mr. Brooke's palustaking
eflforts to throw light on the provisiona of an A&t^^'owfc
mm
380
NOTES AND QUERIES
[5**S. n. KoT.T/
working may pogiibly be fraught with results thai will
render the iniuntetiaiiGe of the BstabLiahed Church no
longer tolwublc.
Our old and T&lacd correspoudent H. T, E. writes :—
"J. D. W., in tlie Ouarduiti of Oct. 23, mk* the meuiing
of thu InBcription an & bell at Aubourn^ Liucolnihire :— '
* IHC NE MI OK ffl.'
Itia—
' IN . KO . in . NE . IHESF/
The Bjllables b«ing set in backwarda. Th!« he will mt
once seci if he t«iked a rqbbiug with leather, or with a
whis^ of grass» on thin printing denij paper, or the
margin of his newspaper, and hold it up to the ligbt,
with the back of the rubbing towarda him. The old
founders oft«n made such blunders.
^' JfutmciioHJi for taking RubHngt of Intcriptiom oti
BilU, or otAiT Jiati&i Lettert. — Supply yourself with
strips of thin printer's demy paper and bits of black
upper leather, which may be picked up \n iwiy cobbler's
sweeping comer. Lay the paper over the inacription — •
keeping it as steady as best yoa may — then rub the
paper with the black ktbtber where you feel the letters
or ftamps. and they will soon stare you in the face
(though before^ perhapSt they were illogible), and yon
will be pleased iiuth yuur own quick and hsndy work.
It may be well to brush the Icttci's first of all with a dry,
hard brush. Hccl-bftU is better suited for inoifed work :
Kuch rubbings uiay be made by roAching round a t>ell^
when, from some impediment or other, you iraiy not be
able to get round tu read it." H. T. E.
Mb, Edgkll WKsTHAroTT asks ** To what family the
following coat of arms belongs; *arg,, on a bend wavy,
cottised gu., within a bordure az, ; beKanty^ Slionj' head^
eroded of the irst.' This shield ap|>ear8 on a monuTueut
dated 17(^1| impaling the ormii of the Edgelkof Fromc,
Someraet/*
A Hint to tub Public Free LiBRARiiis. — OtrnATi
Hamst writes: — "Will you allow me to point out to
librarians that they should acknowledge the receipt of
all publicationA sent to them ? I hare found thiit unless
n letter is written with gifts no acknowledgment isi
made. This is not a practice likely to increase j^rfts to
libraries. Probablyj as tlie book-^iost is now so certain^
the gift ia more likely to arrivo safely than not ; but an
acknowledgment on a bnltpenuy card even woutd settle
the matter to the donor's satisfaction. That Ibe author 'k
name and address do not appear is no rca«oTi if there ia
the name or addrew of the publisher or printer/'
BOOKS AND ODD VOLITMES
WANTRD TO PUROHABE.
Paitteulmra of Pricw. kc., of every book to be tent ilitrct iu tli«
IMnon b; wboxn it is req,uir«4« irbwM aaoifl and sUdtcu ^re £lr«u
for tb*t pmroM :—
IT. NtwtTjMjc's !S«nnoiiioQ ^inrul Anffer. Wyx.
£, Fnmm^um Fu»«Tal Httrmonr 1864.
K. BoLriHcwoanii AMi4« K«rni't>D». ISn.
Sam Bc»iixi.L, anj of hfi J^fTinoaa. 1«73— IS'^S.
yf, BlunrirairaHD, ^oy uf Uii •Sertuoui. Cirr* ieS«.
IflLUA.!! Bcti-t •xij of hll« aerrooaik CVen 1SSD«
Wftutcd b7 L^tHL-Ctit, FmhmUk, Can HlU, Aodidale.
BcATiiK^i or Batesox'& C«lni<lftr pf SUt«Bmea from tlic Time of
W Uhftm III.
Wuited by A, Schombtrff, E#fl.* the Lodge, a«wid. MiUubioi. ^iU*.
BurKvooif^f MACAijir»> Volt I , VI.. XX ni. XXXI., xxxnr,,
XXXV., XXX [X.t«itber bound or Id nainb«rf.
WtnUdhj B. Samit OUtrkt, 7. I^minrt^ti ttaad rniUt ^Vfttbaarae
AarrothToctni edition, of La4j H. WorUir V<»ta«ue'« Lctt«r>.
Sigma.— The first quotation has defi'^d all rsasareh.
" The aspiring youth who fired the Bphr^tun dome "
will be fouud in Colley CibberV version of StkAat^ir
Act ill , sc. i.
" Tno kings of Brentford smelUtig at on* f«M**
should be—
"So sit two kings of Brentford a« on<? thff^fi^"
. --■ nit
For Sir Hubert Stanley an I
(for the twentieth time) t^
Ache.
T. M, Fallow requests us to thrtrik J. 1? for bi« com-
munication. He adds ;— *• I call t hstr
myself heard Penrith OAlled Pen l^n!
llrougham, whom I nerer saw lu ..., vj;atiot»
therefore, think that he wa« * quite an exception to ihi
rule/ as J. B, states."
George IV, akp hib Riptmi) Cur *i tin*
subject we mu?t be content with m irfmi
correspondents know, or have heard, «.i ^ r
names not to be dirulged, and of locivlitiea V'
who are, or were, supposed to be of royal prii
W. Whiston,— Such parallels are clearly
Common aotiunt arc expresaed in phrase rot
The other favours as toon as room can V "*
Uhiira ab (EaTC. — Apply to Mr. i
couipiler of the* pedigrees of Lanc&eLi,, .
fnmillea.
jAVUAnius.— The ** Silver Wedding ** and the ** • i i u
Wedding "are the twenty-fifth and tiftieth ivnQ]T<r< r
of a wedding-day.
A. — Avcsbury is about six milee frcnn M*rli •
Ameebury b two miles from Stunehenge.
C, 8. W, asks where he can procure an '* Explanuc^,
Key " to Tusie's Gan^.
6. L. win IJnd in Murray's Jlctitdh^k t^ RtttdM^ ^
references to the best county historiana.
F. D. \Y,— The old Knlicld's Sj^akir m»y be foond U
almost any bookstall.
J. E. H. will much oblige by allowing ttt to 099 tbr
work named.
C. G. 0.— See the Timt* of the date for Ute best M^
coutit of thoio cvonta.
F. D., for "A Curious Thorn," 5"^ S. ii, 3i8L nfirt Id
" N & Q./' 1*« a iv. 114, lie ; 2-^ 8. ix, 6(H.
C. H. BAYLST(WeatBromwiett),'-BeceltnedwlUi0tll
pleeaure.
W. T. (M.D.).— Reserved for our Chriattuas Ktuntjef.
C. J. O. — The pnlindromc was and rcmiius dcfectift.
K. J* — Keceived and accepted*
W. E. P.~Anticip»ted.
E, M,— Forwarded to Mn. TBosif.
Skvaru. — Next week*
A. Hamilton.— See " N. &. Q./* aftCr^ pp.dSOt SSI
Editorial Commumcations shouM be rtlilne
Editor*'— AdvertisementB and Ft
Publisher *'-^at the Office, 20, Wi t^mI
London, W,C.
We beg leave to state that we decline to tatom co©^
munieationa which, for rinv rrx*4in. m t- do tiolpttAt
to ihi» rule we can id;> '
Toallcommunicatit^i xtd the iiaoii
lul drees of the sender, not nccLnurtl^- for publiis^iaiu
08 a guarantee of ^ood faiths
• 1 1.^ *
Tbt
^m
i
~14, 74-]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
m
warmx^ SATOHDJ. i% sovmmbmr u. imc
CONTENTS, —N* 4d.
I:— Th« UtUm SnraracT— rrrr*! Kdltfot] of Chaticvr, 3gl
"Cotam FuundoB Id VK" > rles. 384-^
Jftfw Woriu HUK^vU't t,T Villi 1 of Th&nki
— 'PhytioanomLcAl i ' lu; r.iinc^ of tho PhiuihohB —
PttpuLitioa— Sing I : — Vcmln agtimt Meta-nohft^y,
QtTK&reS :— Vinrfliiu
^ m At>TOa ''—The Ariujilel MArble« —
aoin — Inillfta-Ink TopoBTftpliioAl
n -The FlraK Prince of WaJm*
St*j Charch Anuoor'-A Wmier-
It up with it'* — Obsctire Wordi in
rtleburr CuAtle: Tlc*ceU'« Qowoar'i
v-t— •* OUjerwhUen,"" asa.
m1 McKicni L&tlti And Greek Vorce,
r.u>k of M»ocftbo<», 301— '* Attld
—Byron : " Sfage of Oorliitb "
forbMoa Family, SfliS— Ouper'i
Muon," S?H—Aie«l*- Epitaph
• mioni Crltici*wl — Simeon of
.•; ModUjm'al CorviDga — Scots
Kx^ ArtJibbiiKiii^ Tn'tiison — '
' ' ■ '■■•illcy-
loa—
.__ .L:.-W>—
— (iuuj'ftn's
i en " — Bull-
uhii.!*^ - TU*3 1 reach Word
!\ WftlU— ■• FlouU, And Jlb«,
h<>au> Uftbb— Midiftel BaoIo,
V4S Booki^ Jte,
%* Next week
" N. <^ Q." will contain «orae
ietails concerning the Dream
> Lord Lyttelton.
THE LITTLE SUMHEE,
[ Those wixrm and sunny divys whicli jsomeiitues
\e KoveiuHcr bnyht and genial an? populirfy
^tTibuted lo St Murtin. '*Bl Martio'H Little
er *' has been this year a cordial reality. On
Bthiern Lxi:u*tt spri^iy: huiis have peeped forth,
dy to believe tlutt winter liad come and gone :
e'and there blossoms have waxed into full
as if they mwlc no doubt that snmmer
'^* '• -r theui.
lin^ in the Calendar, —
u A.Mi. ...M, t, Murtin, Bishop. Their
.jr on the UnU and Hth of November
y. To the funner is attributed the power
tyringiiii^ back the p{\;M**nce, the joy, and the
ine^-T. tttihr prf'cioiH s^^i3on. Perhaps tJie two
I this y«^ar t-o luiike ftumuier take
It of tho chillier succeeding Beaton,
ii^r aiuon^ in than U'^iial. But,
i truth 11 tnat the year has gi^own
i d}'ing ; and this >l.artinmas tilow
sQUimer is t^ the year what the last fiiish
I axpiring Qamc, what the iuddeo, tempoiury,
llu»h of health \s to the cheek over which spreadB
succeeding mortal pallor. Moreover, it is a que9>
tion whether we nrc indebted to 8t, Martin or AH
Saint.-5 for the siunDier glow shed from November
skies. This year the more j^enial time extended
from All Saints to MartinmaB. We may acknow-
ledge the welcome influence of both. 8ome atfeot
A divided alle«^iancc. " All Saints' Day," say»
one, ** brings the second summer ' • ; and that de-
preciator of St. Martin will add, '* At ^t. Mjirtin's
Day, Winter m on his way." The adherents of
him of Tours, however, bud "the summer of St.
Martin, three days and a bit ! " But this is poor
bosL?5t to the upholders of All Saints, who honestly
confess that '^ All Saints' summer may hist three
hours or three days/' but they add "or three weeks,*'
—a boast which the Mtirtinites never venture to
make. Shakspeare takes a happy course on this
question. The madcap Prince of Wales (ffcjrry
I V.J i. 2) comparer Fa/staff's old age and youthful
induJgences with the All Saint-s' summer. " Fare-
well^ then, latter Spring!'* he cries; "F»rewell,
then, All liallow'en Summer!'* But, in Heniy
VI. (L 2), the poet pays allegiance to the cnoonized
soldier in the words, " Expect St, Martin's summer,
halcyon days !" The saint, however, sometimes
visits us ** on his white borne/' indicative of frosty
and thence the proverb, " Youn^ and old must go
cla^l at Martinmas." The chief succeeding saints
of the month breathe on their fingers for warmth,
and mortals devoutly follow their ex^mDle. St.
Catherine shivers within a glory of icicles; and
St. Andrew is of bo fri^d a cjuality, that in I tidy
even they who lie awake on his night turn un-
comfortably on their couches, think gratefully of
the halcyon days and the little summers of All
Saints and St. Martin, and greet with a giunt of
non-welcome the ptt»sing of St. Andrew. Ed.
UEBY'8 EDITION OF CHAUCER.
If these extracts, which I owe to Mr. Walford
D. Selby^ of the Public Record Office, have not yet
found their way into " N. & Q,/* they will interest
Chaucer students. F. J. F.
DtiNCUMB's History or HKRKfoRnsBnus.
Vol. ii., pa^ not numbered after 318. Appendix to
BruXD&t Hundred.
Withington. — Addition to the account of Mr.
Brome, In the Bodleian Library, Oxford, is a
hirge collection of original letters from Mr. Brome
to the principal scholars and antiquaries of hin
time.* The following is an extract from one, dated
EwithingtoD^^ June 23, 1733, and rehites to an
edition of Chaucer then jjublishiug. It is thus
addressed—** These for Mr. Thomas Rawlins, at
Pophill6,Wurwickshire j to be left at John Sturdys,
at Wixford Bridge":—
"I find you lire a Tcrjr curloui person {inter atta)
about books, for I see yonr name among Mr Hearne'fi
Bubwritiors ; and if jfour acquaintance be much among
the litterati, na I supptfse it is, you may do me a kindn^M.
One Mr, Urry, student of Clirfst Church, was engaged ta
publish a new edition of Cliauccr^ with a glossary, tte.
Before he had finished it, he dyes and leares me executor^
with an intention that some of the profits ariring from
the impre!9»ion shotild goe towards buildlo(f the new
Quadranglia. The ColleRe, mygelf. And Mr. Liniot, the
bookseller, enter into a triimrtito agreement npon thesfl
terms: The College and my^nK to j^et the copy of
Chancerp with prefaces, indexes, glossary, &c., for
Mr« Lin tot. Mr. L. to be at the expense of printing and
pap«r, and the copies to be divided in three parts between
ui. The College oblige Echolars upon their entrance to
take off a copy, and by their acquaintance dispose of
their store : Mr, Lin tot ii in the way of business, and
sells off his ; but mine Ive upon hand, so that I am like
to he a great sufferer, "By our articles wo are not to sell
a copy under the subscription nrice, which is, large
?aper, 60 shillings ; sroall paper, :l0 shillings : m sheets,
'he book in adorned with copper-p'atcs before each tale.
If any friend of yours wantn fcuch a book, I can supply
him in London, hut by no means I would ha^c vou
k-fmportiinate with any person upon my account. I'he
■ enriout may perhaps as well oblige himself as mc,
YourSi kc. Vi. Brqmk.^'
A 8ec€iid letter, on the Attme subject, is dated
Feb. 8, 1734; it states: —
"So the College and myself employed one Mr. Part, a
noted author and editor, to write Chaucer's life; and one
Mr. Timothy Thonma, formerly a student of Clirlat
Church, and now Rector of Prtsteipne, in Radnorehire,
to finiib a text* and write a preface and glotfiary, kc."
Mr William Brome was a cotemporary at
Christ ChuTch with John Philips, the author of
The SpUiidid Shilling, Jik^theim^ and the cele-
brated Et^glish Oeorgic, entitled Cider, and his
pttrticalar intimati?* Mr. Brome piirsiued his studies
at Oxford with so much assiduity and success
that he was considered as a principal ornament of
his Collej[ito, which at that time was the residence
of many persons of distinf,mished literature. He
was parti cnl a liy consulted by Mr. Urry» the learned
and laborious editor of Chancer, in the progress of
his work. He resided at Ewithingtoti (Duneumb's
Hertifordshirff p. 24!>. &c,).
Agninist the east wall of the Houth aisle, or
Poets' Comer, in Westminster Abbey, is placed a
tablet containing an epitaph on John Philips,
written by Dr. Freind. The folio winfj Ib an extract
from it :—
" BeSf sen tenue«» sen roediocret sen graudeflj
Omandas sumpserat,
Nusq[^uain non quod decuit
£t iridet et assecutua est,
E^egius, quocumque sty!um verieret
Fondi author et niodorum artifex.
Fas sit huic
Auso licet a iu4 nietrorum le^^e discederc
O poeais Anglicanic pater at quo ootiditor
Chance r»
Altenim tibi latus claudere
Xstum certe ctfieres tuos undique stipantinm
yon decebit chgnini."
{Ii,, VOL ii. p. 2ia.)
JAMES 6AYERS, THE CARICATrKlST,
(Concluded from p. 2S2J
I fancy I recollect seeing the Christian
Sayers's father mentioned as (Thristopher.
Wright, in the partkgraph I quoted (p. 282), Mf
he was ** son of a captain of a merchant ship.'*
the Gmthman's Magazine for March, 1792, p, 27
I 6nd the death announced of *^ Christoph
Sayere, pier-master of Yarmouth, who died in I *
town on the 2<>th February, 1791, in his 73
year." I conclude that, if not his father, he ^
relation, for it will be obsen^ed tbat one of I
family, J. Sayers^t partner^ was called **C
topher;-
It IB said by Mr. RedsTrave that S:
member of the Borough Council of Yan
I think this must be a mistake. A ^li. Ju
Sayers, a merchant, and one of th^ C^nm
Council for the borough of Yarm*
on the 19th November, 1794 (Ga
zinc for November of that year, p, n'ti.i;. i nndi
nothing in Mr. C. J. Palmer^B Hutory of
Yannouth that enables me to clear up any nf^
these points, but doubtless some of your eoT»
respondents in that town can help me-
lt will be observed that he is called roorre
frefpienily Sayer, without the final **s,** iWi
Sayers, a point tbat has pur/lcd me exce«»d :
because the same thing occurred during hiM^
time, and in places where it would be in
he would have his name correctly spelled. 1
name is in Boyle's Court Guid^ to about IB^fli
Saver ; but what is still more extraorciinary is f'
from the time of his name appearing in the List i
Officers of the f *ourt, which it did in the Law ' *
for 1790, as '* MarshftU of the Court of Exch
{though he was appointed, as 1 have already I
in June, 1784, as James Sayers), imd in It
besides ** Receiver of the Sixpenny iHities,.** to 1
year of his death it was spelled without
final **s."
I thought, perhnps, that he chr^P^'' -^ ^'^ «
on taking his appointment, but I ti
view tenable. Is the name pronoui:, - ,_ ^u
or is it like "Sandys/* which is pronounced
** Sands " ?
It will be observed that John Taylor np
Sayera was a member of Staple Inn. I hnrr
written to the Principal of that Inn, ho] '
might get some information as to his n>^
but I fear my letter must have mis<^•^r^K^L I laf
searched at the Record Office, Fetter Lane,
have not succeeded in finding when he
articled, nor the date of his adtnissioti aft
attorney. The Close Rolls for 1""
information as to him, namely, J '
Great Ormond Street, 24th July» i . ,>' jm « *- *
an order of the Court of Chancery, KUh Juljj
1790, in a matter then depending, entttl^, in 1
matter of the Keeper or Qerk of the Haniiper, i
^
S« 8. IL Noy. II. 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Is, Amongst other things, ordered thi^t James Sayera
IfiTe security for due executioa of the office of
Keoeiver of the Sixpenny Writ Duty in 1,6^K}L
lipom the 3()th April, 1790, His sureties were
"SAmuel Denison, Bedford Row% and Thomas
Rowknd, of CluphaaL*' This recoguiitsmce was
vacftted by order of Court dated 4th May, fifth
year of Geoi^e IV'*, 1B25.
For several yeans previous to 1808 be resided in
OreAt Ormonj Street ; after that year I do not
lind hifl name in the London Directory.
Mr. Redgrave txho says he wa« one of the
9ttori of the Exchequer. I have not found the
of this kst appointment. When did it
> 1 Biographers, but especially auto-
ers, are too fond of generalities, as, at
_ e, about thiis date, &c,, no time or date
mg been given for several volumes.
Tlw following are «uch of the writings publiahed
by Sayers an I have V>een able to trace, and it is in
oonoeqnence of trying to obtain authentic infonua-
iion for the Hajidbook of FUtitious Names, as to
his writiug^f that I have made my notes. I have
not attempted! a list of the caricatures. The first
1 kno«r (I nlibreviate all the titles) is —
1* J7ttf Foundling Ckapd Brawl^ a non -heroic
ballad . . . printed by C* Ro worth . . . 18<)4, in
ipurto of thirty -one page^H, and a Urge caxiavture
' " J. S." The copy in the BritL«ih Museum
uritten on the title-pagf, by the author,
**J. Bindiey, Esq,, from J. S.^'; and on p. iii
tlie word "Statue" is corrected to ** Statute'';
p, vi> third line from the bottom, *' should" is
corrected to *^* ought to'*; p. I), Jaat line, dde the
*'p"' in '* Thompson"; p, 29, line 2 from bottom,
** tsmen " h corrected to ^ licet/*
2. The f^econd part or sequel of the Foundlinff
<^jk/ Bmicl ...tkiso a poetical epistle from the
Doctor ^Willain] . . . with an ode to nuisic for the
iastallation of the Doctor and hiH lady in their
>5kllery pew [motto]. London, printed by C, Eo-
wortlC iy<>r», quarto, pp. 32, with three illustrations,
that on page i!2 probably being a caricature portrait
of Dr. WUiain.
Lowndes (1834, vol ii, p* 739) j^ve« no author's
Xttme The second edition (vol li,, 1858, p. 826)
aid^ (othe title^ *^ by Ed. Sater, the caricaturist/'
aa if the work bore the authora name, and says
that it was yrivahly prijiiedj which may be correct,
though the author says its '* ckculation has
f*xteoded far beyond the metropolis." The follow-
ing ijsi a mocil note on the flydeaf of the copy in
the Britmh Museum. I give it as a specimen of
wh ■ t not to be relied on :— Privately
pr 7 scarce: see Lowndes'* [who says
H' l-e kind). '^^ The prints are by Gilray"
Jt I 1, '^•although marked with the initials
» J. .^ iur V *' pnem itself is very like the
of J !ir; it is stated in Eohn's
E. Sayers, which I presume lias been taken from
the signature to the memorial,"
It would appear from this work that Elizabeth
Say era, whose name is thus given, and whom
Sayers makes to date her memorial from " Great
Ormond Street, 8th May, 1804," had rented a seat
in one of the pews of the Foundling Chapel
upwards of sixteen years, when about the begin-
ning of 1803 Dr. WiUain put up some rail which
was very obnoxious^ and Miss Sayers woidd not
occupy the seat. She was no doubt a sister, and
must have come to London with or not long after
Sayers. It will be observed by the title to the
second part that the Doctor's lady had some hand
in the atTalr.
In his edition of Lowndes, Mr. Bohn, under
**Sayer" (even he was uncertain of the name),
give^ the interesting information that Sayers'a
sister presented a unique set (150) of her brother's
caricatures to Mr. NicoL
The next work is the one that obtained the moat
celebrity ; it i& also anooymous : —
3. Elijah's Mantle, a poem, London, printed
for J. J, Stockdale, 1807, price one shilling, in
8vo. pp. 13.
The copy in the Kings Library at the British
Museiim has tlie words ** a poem " struck through
and these words inserted — ^*'a tribute to the
memory of the Ht, Hon. William Pitt "; and at
the end of the poem the words, " Written 5th
February, 1806," all said to be in the author'a
handwriting.
There wu.s also published : — " TU Feast of
Qalilu^ ill humbU iinitation of ElijalCs MarUh. . ,
1807''; and'* All Ou Talents Garhatid .,. include
ing ElijaJi6 MantU , . . 1808 " ("K, & Q./' 4«» S.
ii. 296).* These were reviewed in the Monthly
JKetrietr, vol. hi. p. 439, vol. liii. pp. 321 and 322.
I do not know who were the authors.
4. "5/. SUphin's Cimpeh a satirical poem," is
mentioned in the Montkhj Rcinyu\ vol, liii. p. 220.
I have not Meen this, but it may be the one that
Mr, Redgrave popularly refers to as *^ Kew Games
at St* Stephen's Chapel.^'
5. An Htroic EpistU to Mr. Wxmor. . . Lon-
don, R. Spencer, Great Ormond Street, 1808, 4to.
pp. 18 and 1. To the copy in the British Museum
h added an illustmtion by Gilray, published
May, 1802, by Humphrey, St. James's Street. It
evidently does not belong to the book, and no
notice being taken of it in the catalogue, it is apt
to mislead. It is a plate ridiculing gas, and en-
titled " New Discoveries in Pneumaticks,^' and it
is referred to by Sayers on p. 13 thus, *^ For an
illustration of this line, see Mr, Gilray's excellent
caricature print of the Royal Institution,"
6. Bints to J. NolltkinMf Esq.^ Ii,A,f on hi*
mtitltd MiijaiCt Afamle . . . WActt»^>a«A.A^*^'
384
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(S>* a IL Not. 14. Tl.
MoihUing a Bitst of Lord 6r******i« [motto],
London, R. Sp4?ncer» 1808^ 8vo. pp. 15, A poli-
tical satire id verse on Lord GrenTille, with a
front bpiece»
7* Query if the following ia hy hira 1 It ia his
puljlisher. An EpUecpul dkjrfft . . . London^
printed for E. Spencer, 22, Orciit Ormond Streetj
l&fi, in 8vo. pp. 13. "A satirit^fl.1 poem on G.
Pretyman, afterwards Tomline, Bishop of Lincoln,"
Note in B. M. Citalogiie.
It will be seen from these notes how much
I remains uncertain. "Will your readers more par-
^ticidarly answer the following questions ?— When
und in what parish was Sayera bornj and where
baptized ? Who wjls the Sayers who practised
at Yarmouth ? Was the caricaturiBt ever married (
Were officers of the courts allowed to practise also
as attorneys, as the registnus of the county courts
are now ? Was bia will (if any) proved, and by
whom ? What other works did he publish i
Olphab Hamst.
James Sayers, the caricaturist, was not identical
with James Say era, the attorney, who died in
1827, although both practised at treat Yamiouth.
Some account of both may be found in the Fcr-
hittration of irrfai Yarmouth^ vol. i. p. 204, where
there is a portniit of the caricaturiBt from a draw*
ing by himself, and vol, ii. pp. B3, 369.
A. G. P.
Great Yarmouth.
The French Flag,— From a work on Let
Z^rapcaux Fra7ifaU, just published in Paris, and
written by M, Gtisstave Desjardins, it rippears that
' the present tricolor of France was the fljig under
[which Henri IV, entered Rouen, and that the
I irhite iliig wns much oftener used by rebels than
by kings, who generally bore the Idue flag, but
aometimes the red ! " !Ed.
"CoMEfi Facuitdus nr Via. The Fellow
Tbavkllkr thuouoh City and Countret-'' —
This very amusing and rare little work wa« pub-
lished anonymously, and the author has never yet^
I believe, been indicated. The complete title is—
"Cornea Facundui in Via. The Fellow TraveUer
^ through Ctty and Countrey, among Studflats and Schi »lari>
I :at Home und Abrokd. PurniBhed with short StoHi^s ond
the choiccBt ffpcecbei of clean and innoeent wit and
ri&irth for dtscoarBe or priTnt« «ntertainineMt in Kecreu-
f floai or Joumcyn. By Democritua Sccutidus. Londrm ;
• Printed for Hum. Robinfloo at the three rigMnn in &t
I Piaarfi Churcli jnrd. 1056. 12mo., 849 pAfpea, iDcludin^
lUlO'pago^ preUnjiniiry tnatt«r, and errata."
In my copy, under Democritus Secundum, is
written in a contemporary hand, " i, e, IJ^"* Hen.
Mmtmdsm, Coll. Reg. Oxon., olim eocio," Of the
€»JTeot!iefi8 of tlii« attribution there can l>e no
doubt TAere in a notice of the author in Wood
(Athmm^ rol Hi p, 474, BUa&'a edit\<iTi)i w\iq/
'51
though he mentions other piece* c»f F '
does not, refer to this, but merely obwr.
wrote ** other thing?*.'' Hi» waa, it ftpjx*;
of Cumberlftnd, und was born there in
leaving Oxford, he bec4ime usher at » u :
School, and in 1655 wa* MaflteT of Kort
School, at which place he died in 1C50. Ai
his works 13 7'^he Natural Hutory of Lau
London^ 1655, 8vo., which I posBWB, %nd L
Contfrdio $iix BfUum Bdlionttity, a
the Rawlinson CoUection in the P.
Comes Facnndus^ from which I ci
entertaining extracts if ifpnce
deserving of being reprinted. Jas, Cr^>&>i
fWlll our corrcfpondent kindly wnd ui tlie
worth reproducing f]
China: CEarETEBiEs. — A cjisual rti,
of the leaders of a daily paper* has f '
forcibly the remarkable absence of
which is generally discovered, e\*
regulated houi^es," when China haiTpio^ i.i i.i m.
surjject of discufision. Indeed, there veeam to^»
a purely conventional, and generally hXkdem^
mode of treating all that relates to the GIrilMli;
as though a foregone conclusion lay at the bottom.
Tlie remark referred to ia a? follows : —
" Metropolitan hothouses for ferer and confonyttoi
are p^rpetu«ited to foster a prejudice which wt litft
only with the tmrbariana of China. The CKmetroeiiM rf
rBilways in the ChiaoM tCmpiromuat be ind«fiiiltaly fcrih
poncd until the pfl<iplo will coT^seni to ^low euttnilla
oe mftde ' throuyli the graves of their ancettoTV."*
In one notorious instance, at any rate»
Chinese have quietly acquiesced in the uii]
of their cemeteries. In tormiog a drill gro'
the troops at Kowloon» we had to level a co
and I have afterwards seen re^j
mea.su ring the ground so as to tl.
{iosition of a grave, in order to remove Ute 1
to some quieter resting-place. I have also -
Europeans, for pjistime^ breaking to pia
funeral urns of the Chinese and scat
iMJoes of the rude forefathers of haiolets I
same locality, and sometimes reserviivg th
jjenknife handlea. In one Lnstfincc, I
an urn and its contents being carried off (for »
sentation to an English museum), and depooM
for security, in the mcuntime, in a OoTtnartODit
store. On auch occu.sions the o»»^f»'^»^*^ f^hlftot
have only offered what is called **ij
I auj, however, inclined to believe i
would not offer even this kind of !► 1 i!
native authorities in any aeknov*ir ouv^i
public utility.
A great deal of valuable insight int/* ffte Hjm
character, and our own trnnswicT
East, is lost to the British pu)
notice taken of daily uocurreri. lUvj I'j :^1
\
Dav(t| TiU^raph^ Ai.
I
a»8.IT.KoT. U.l*.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
385
' ' ' 'Lines© newvpnpers. The following »p*
1 the 2iid of AngUBt iii tlie same paper^ and
au^•^u^ ii ustful commetitary on these remai'ks : —
•* Only A day nr two since we ullmio*! to the concession
mmde by the Lejtibkture to popular feeling hy refusing
U* fi&nctiQii a RUl empowennK the MidUnd Hallway
Company to &b»orb the long disused gmTtywd of St.
PancAS."
s.
New Wores 8UoaRSTm> by Authors. — The
Ifollowiog iiot«« raay be useful eithejr as curiosities
Fftr hints for further iise among your learned cor-
reBpondents r—
1. ^* Anecdotes of Fathitm. A Tolnme on thisflubjeot
might t e mudo Ttrr curioui and eutertaiuttig." — D^vacli,
Vur, of Liu, vol. Lp. 216. edition 1SG7-
^K % *^Ofa History of Evtntt tchick havi not happmtd.
^^ESuch 11 title mii;bt acrve for a work of not iucunotu nor
^Kg«^|^{i, ... f.:. .^1 i7)«cu]ation^ which mif;lit enlarge our
^^^Kt^ humiin affairs.''— y 6 j:V^.t ii^ p« 4*28.
^^^^Pl ■'■ room for a very interesting work, which
flicQld Iiik)- o^en the connexion between the langnages
and in»nnerB of nations.*'— Gibbon's Dtdine and Fall,
^'Jiturr»v> reprint, toI. i. p. 2^» note 4.
4. '*When IKocletinn conferred on Galenua the title
ft^f Cfcaar, he hn I riTP-n him in marriage hia daughter
Valeria, who(»c t v adventures might furnish a
ftry liniirnlar § i ir&fi^dj''—Jt/HL^ toI. i. p. 321.
£>. * Amrnlanu . ...i ahia, who t^'nniniitei hia uieful
[ work with ihf^ delcat and death of Valena, recommends
Ltho more glorious subject of the ensuini? reign to the
~ hful vij^our and cloqaence of the rising generation.
I fifing generation waa not diipoaed to accept his
e."-/friU, vol. iup. 48.
6, *' The Chinese aripaU may be usefully applied to
OTeal the teerft and remote cauaes of the fall of the
Ban Empire."- /&«/., vol. ii. p, 140.
' Our common Uw inay hnve indirectly received
cr modification from the influence of the civilians
An its professors were ready to acknowledce, or even
liha^n thcT knew. A fuH view of this subject is itill. I
■ ' Titura in the history of English law, which
"tite in ft rery intcrei^ting manner,'* —
, ^lurrav's reprint, p. >*'ZS, note I.
of ftocTCs'l lliftori/ of E»glUk Law,
eitecaied with cqunl ability), would
c , .i^^i ^o every student of law or constitu*
►ry/* — Stephen's Coia. on Lawi o/Eng,, toI. i,
- ih
BMeford Oardena, 6hepherd*s Bush Common.
SiKQULAK Card of Thanks,— Tho following
Affpeaied recently in a CleTeland (Ohio) news-
»per:—
* JSoTidL— Tn tfte fncndR rf Mrs. Diana Wall : I
inent for their kind and
Mrs. Joseph Black-
,, ,--,i.Li, to Dr» Mead and his
taing^ff, and the pallbearers I feel under f>eculiar
Rtioiis. Ml the pullbearers were acquiitntMncet of
■a' durmtion, and two bad known Mm. Wall in
lid for the last thirty-eight yeara. Yours re^cct-
JoBJ« J. Wall/'
Bar-Point.
MicAi* PR0VBRB8. — I think the fol*
nt rirnrs *' frnin W, Vaugban's Dircc-
tmisfor HetMlih, fifth edition, 1617j have not been
quoted in your notes upon thi-? »iil>ject :^
" • Faire and foolUh, little and lond,
Long and laiie, bl?icke Ami proud ;
Pat and merry. leant; and j>ad^
Fal« and peevi»b, red and bad.*
As likewise they aymo. that the red-headed or red-
beiiTded are crafty, and thebrowne-oomplaxioDed tmttj :
' To a red man reade thy readt
With a browne man breake thy bread,' "
a K R
The Bones or the Phar^vohs* — A short time
bince^ in passing along the ijuavs of the Bir-
kenhend Docka, I noticed kr^ lieaps of bones
in u fn^gnientary condition. On inquiry, I find
that this is a regular article of commerce from
Alexiindria, and is used for the manufacture of the
great fertilizer, bone-dust, Exantininfj closeljr, I
discovered many port ion a of human akulls, ribs,
tibiit', &c. The greater part are in fn»grment«, about
the size of a hazel nut or walnut, but inany boneei
are entire. I called the attention of a medieal
friend to the matter, who made an examination,
and reports that the greater part consists of the
bones of nniniak in a fragmentary condition, but
that undoubtedly there ia a considerable admixture
of human reuiains.
This peculiar importation h of course obtained
by rifling the mummy pits of Lower Egypt. What
an instructive commentary is here presented on
human preparations and insight into the future 1
The remains of the great and mighty of a famed
and historical country, aft^r lying undisturbed for
thousands of yeai\s, dug up and transferred to a
distant land to be spread for dung on the face of
the earth !
The philoHopher of Norwich, two hundred years
ago, in the stately periods of his Hydriotaphia ; ar^
Uni Burial^ which sound like a strain of solemn
music, thus expresses himself : —
" ^ ' ingenuity waa mora imsatisfiedt oontrivitig
lb' . sweet eoDsiateucies, to attend the return
of 1 But alt waa vanity, feeding the wind and
folly. The Egyptian mummies which Oaoibysas or time
hath spared, nraricc now con*umeth. Mummy is be-
come merchandize^ Mlxraini euros wounds^ and rharaoh
is sold for balsams."
Had he foreseen the depth f»f degradation at the
present dny^ his reflections would have had a much
keener and more profound application. Well
might he continue : —
" In vain do individuals hope for Immortal tty» or *ny
patent from oblivion, in presenrations below the moon.
, . . . Wherein there is so much of chance, that the
boldest expectants have found imhappy frustration;
and to bold long subsistence seems but a ^cnpc in oblivion^
But man is a noble animal, splendid in nsbes, and poin-
pom in the grave, solemnizing nativities and deaths with
eqtial lustre, nor omittiitg ceremonies of bravery in the
infamy of his nature."
38G
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Pinuppk CoasAT. — On the 26th of S<?ptember»
Switzerland's barber-poet died at Geneva. He wa«
a native of Pully, netir Laasanoej where lie was
bom in 1809* Some of the best aonga in the
French knguage are from his pen, tind sv proposal
wa« recently made to publish them in a volume.
To this the poet consented, but unfortunately he
had not kept copies of several of his productions,
and an appeal to holders of his songa waa not
sufficiently responded to. It would have been
more to f'oraat'a fame if he had kept to his shftvin|:r
shop, and continued to delight by the exquisite
productions of his muse. But he wa-s luducei to
quit his caJling by the solicitations of political
meads^ who thou|^ht the witticisms of the shop
■VFould be well received by the public at large.
Oorsat and his friends accordingly started a Swiss
PuTwA, under the name of T/ie Carillon of SL
Chrvais. It has had a considerable patronage
amongst political refugiaesi French Communists^
and Ultni-Radicjvls^ and it has been prohibited in
France. But it? violent personalities, and often
very objectionable cariciitures, have not added to
Corsat's literary fame. For many of these thin^^s
we believe Corsat was not personally responsible.
Notwithstanding the chanicter of (^arillon^ it hiis
not estranged those who knew intimately the
barber-poet. In private life be was respected by a
large circle of friends, and his public funeral was
[attended (officially) by several members of the
Government of Geneva, and by the Masonic Lodge
of which he was a member ; more than 2|0i)tj
were present. It is proposed to erect a monuoient
to his memory, and it is hoj>ed that the con-
tributors will think only of the barber-poet, his
talents and his virtues, and put itside all political
rcruini^eences, James Hk.sry Dixon^ LL.D.
Louis XIV. axd the CeuRcii.^In the His-
ioirt iks Mddmlks, by Charles Putin, published in
[Paris "avec privilege du Koi/' is an engraving of
« medal which Putin proposed should be struck
It bears the date of 1660. On one side la the
head of Louis XIV. On the reverse Louis is
standing crowned, in his robes, and extending
his hand to a figure which kneels before him
and grasps his hand. This figure bears on its
left shoulder ri large cross^ and holds in its
left band a chalice. It is clothed, like Loui^, in a
mantle sown with t!eur de lys, but it seems not
to represent the Galliam Churchy 11.3 it wears the
tianu The motto is, " Reatitutori orbis Chri^-
tiani." Was this medal ever struck I
Ralph N. Jakes.
Afthfordt Kent.
Lb Brettow at Rouen". — ^ Amongst the line
oollection of pottery at the Rouen Museum I
noticed a large full-bellied jug, dated 173L On
the front is a Bacchus astride on u barrel, holding
alo/t a glass &nd a bunch of grapes. I copied from
it the following curious eaumeiatioii of the rirtae^
and vices of the viae . —
" Je suJA un antidote
£t Je auis un poison^
Jc reTcille lc« bcub
Et J endom U raiacm,
J'ovanca lo trepas
Et proloTige la vie,
Et Je si^me k guerre,
Uu la t>*^ ™* coDTi«.*'
This jug is called Le Hretton.
In the same Museum there is a very fine act of
"Revolution plate*." These havr ^ ' -'- ^r—
added, and are of great hLstoricid l
fleury, in his Histoire de la Caricu, ,..
duced a few (but by no means the m**
examples. These pktes, which w« rr- -
numbers to the poor during the
now very scarce, and in no public 1
so large a collection as at Rouen* >
Liberty, Equrdity, and Fntternity, tho
and ridicule of the clergy, are the most piommtiii
of the topics alluded to on them.
W. HAMlLTOif.
u] thr.
ril.v
Largest Population. — It is
tion within a radius of thirty
Exchange at Manchester is larger m
the same radius from St. Paul's in London.
J. C I
SiNotTLAB Misprint, — In the quarto Bible—
"Oxford ; Printed at the Clarendon Ftvas^ hj
Dawson, Bensley, and Cooke, Printers to ifc
University ; and' sold at the Oxford Bible W^'t^-
bouse, in Paternoster Row, London, 18<>2 "—
iH the following curious misprint, Job xw
** All the whUe my breath it in me, and the
of God i* in my stostrila.'^ Had it not br^t ;
the old form of compound letter, this error of tho
press could hardly have occurred.
V.H,LL.LaLV.
Vervaik against Melancholt, — It is impos-
sible not to feel compassion for the foUovenofi
peculiar baronet, who evidently su0er tutidi
internally, since they ajjeak so forcibly of tlie W
effects of wine. I will, therefore, tmti>^l:it«' for
their benefit an old Italian recipe,
enable them so to prepare wine that j
disturb the inner man of the most wenk
them, and a whiil" of which, it is to be ho]^
clear his brain. The recipe is said to be **Ag;WQat
Melancholy,*' and runs thus : —
" In order that the nielaDcholjr man may be ^n
some leaves of Verram and boil thorn in ^ood
wine, acd let him drink of tlus *rific : ^ ^
plant may be put int« his souji, and i
gtLj. Mor«orcr, take Bomo jvmiper '
on hot embers, and inhale tbt» tmoke thvr
the nose and mouth, aod it will always cu-l
merry."
If Sir W, and hifi friends do not in ftititifr drink.
^di
i
6» 8. n. Nor. 14, Ti-J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
387
snioke, ftud he jolly, like other people, it will
cIcatIy be tiieir own fault, or arise from a deficiency
of vcrraiti and janiper^ a mingled wreath of
wliicb they might award to the most intrepid
drinkef of vervain 9onp» Ralph N* Jameb.
Aehford, Kent
\W9 moat raqii««t eorrefipondentii desiring infonnntion
Qift fMBtly nuittfin of only pnvmte ioterost, to &ffii ilioir
naaai ud addresiea lo their queries, in order that the
■amren ma^y be addroMod to them direct.]
.Viri
VrRoixiiis AKD THE Antipodks.— There haa
b^en printed of late a very interesting series of
letter* in the Times on the so-called heresy of
:ilius, for which he was censiired by Pope
hary. The Iri«h Annals did not know Mm as a
©tic, but as a geometrician: e.g., the Annah
efihd Four Mmters (Ed. O^Donovan), suh an. 784
(f«rt« 789)» record that ** Ferghil, tho Geometer,
Abbot of Achadhbo, died in Germany in the
thirteenth year of his biBhopric" Aghabo was a
monastery founded by St, Cainech^ or Can ice, in
the prefient Queen's County. With the missionary
spirit which actuated bo many of the Irish Chri&-
ttatiA of that age, ita Abbot went forth to evan-
gelize pagan lands, became the Apostle of the
Bail, and died Bishop of Saltsbnrg- The learned
edito-- rS t^.P'^e Annnh adds, in a note, that he
be« *[i of Salt^^bnrg about the yejir 751*^
but : . _ . :^picion of heterodoxy attached to his
name until the year 1233, when he was canonized
by Pope Gregory IX, We know that Pope
Zacbary declared him a heretic, but he does not
aeem to hare been ever excommunicated or divested
of the priesthood ; neither ia there any proof that
he recanted hi8 so-called heretical views relativ^e [
to the rotundity of the Earth and the Antipodes,
which his knowledge of mathematics led him to
I adopt and promul^'ate. Perhaps some reader of
* N. & Q." can supply the Act of Canonization.
[The evidence on which Gregory IX. canonized
I him may alf*o still be in existence, and would
ow much liirht on the subject. As the matter
' rrats, we have one Pope declaring Ferghil a
4ic^ and another canonizing him as a saint.
Sbvabo.
FtJ^jfisH Pkdiorbb Rbqutred.— Can any of
tTotir readers tell me of a work from which I can get
on respecting ** lodociis-Vydts and Isa-
; lunt, his wife "* I Poblet,
-.
Oft
Ay APRON." — What is the meaning
I of t ' The following is an extract from
( old joum/U (1739) :—
'Aloa. April 27. An anlacky ■ff&ir bfeppeacd h6r«
li«l Frttlay ; «Terml lads bkring made nieny in trtuAin^
«« m^ren^ ooe Gilbert Donaldiioa (aged 14), serrant to
lOflOf^ Thomioii» got up to the garret of bta matter*
boui*, and cast bimself doirti on some straw with hii
clodtha on. leaving the candle buroin^. which communt'
eating, the house wils set on ^e^ so that the people only
got time to save their Uvea, except DonaldsoD, who was
burnt to ashes,**
W. H. Patterson.
The AnuNDEL Marbles.— I have lately met
with the following notice of these. This extract,
from the Cromwellian Sttite Papers, refers to the
year 1656, and I should be glad to learn further
particulars of the history of the»e marbles between
1656 and 1667, when they were presented to the
University of Oxford ; —
[Extract from the Entry Book of Oliver's Coimcil of
State, No. 105, pp. rm, 594]
"At the Council of State; Bis Highness the I«ord
Protector present.
" Wednesday, 24tU December, 1G50,
*'0n reading the humble pettc'on of George Smith
gent, conc'ning a dJscoT'rie of srv mil goods/ pictures,
and Statues at Artindle lloose in the Strand ; two third
pts* whereof are adjudged by the Com" for discov^ryeaf
to belong to bis Highness, For w^*" § of the goods,
valued at 6(kJl. L'^. 4^ is adjudged V> be paid into his
Highness Th'rc'y, § the pictures, and Statues being not
yet ftpp raised. Ordered, That it be referred to y* Com"
of bis Highness Th're*y, to apfioynt fitt p'sons,it not onely
to make a Toluntion of the sayd pictures, and statues,
but also to make Sale of | p'tA thereof, at y* Candle, and
out of ^r" Cleare money that shall come in there upon, to
y* Receipt of bis Highness ETtcbeq'* to allow one 5"' p't
thereof to y* pef,^ in right of his disco? "rye."
Hekry W* Henfhet.
5, Queen Anne's Gate, S,W.
Madame Roland's Mbmoirb. — In the Poetry
of the Ant i- Jacobin, lately reprodnced in the new
edition of John Hookham Frere's Worh^ and in
the " New !^Iondity,'- occur these lines :—
" 0\ does severer rirtue cbarm ? We choose
Roland the juat with ribbands in his shoes.
And Roland's spouse, who paints with chaste delight, &c.
To this the note is ^^ Bee Madame Bo land's He-
moirs.^' Now, I have examined the only edition
in the original acceasible to me, that of 1620, and
find no such passage, or anything resembling it.
Can any one inform me if it appears in any earlier
edition, or whether it ia an invention of the anti-
Galilean poet i W. B. R,
New York.
Indian -Tjik TopocRAtnttcAL DRAwmos.—I
have a number of drawings, in Indian ink, of
scenery, ruins, ca«tles, towns, and country Beats in
Scotland {chiefly Perthshire) and the north of
England. They are mostly signed and dated 1788
— 1 mr). They are by a Major D. Robertson, once
a resident at Cheltenham, and are, on the whole,
well done. There are some curious views of Edin-
• Parti.
f Comxaifiiotien for Duoov«ri«t.
X The whole would, therefore, have been valued
at I, (mi.
388
NOTES AND QUERIES,
15* S. IL 5oT. U. 71
tnu^li^ m fme of whicb Prince s Street imd Park
are represented by a ploughed fitdd ! Can trny
one ieU me their probable vaiae ? There are 132 in
all, varying from 24x12 to 12x6 inches* Is any-
thing known of Major Robertson ] Prints.
Umon Society, Oxford.
OoRBiLLON. — How was the game mentioned by
Molii&re in the following lines played } Wau it a
TCvy fashionable game in Fmnce in the time of
Louis Quatorae, and la it ever played now l —
'* Je pretends oue ia mienne, en claries pea sublimiei
Mi^me no saclie pas co quo c*e«t qu'une rime;
Bt, a'il faut quaTcc ellc on joue au corbiQon,
Et qaW vienoe k lui dire ^soti tour, "du'y met-on?'
Je YtvLX qu'eUe r^jpoude, * une tarte A m creime ■ x
En un mot^ qu'elle ioft d'une ignoranco extreiue/*
EcoU da Pemmes, Act i., sc. L
The DkHminair6 de rAc4JuU7me Fraiifais^i (ed.
1814) defines corbilhn as " une e^p^ce de jeu» oii
Im iouettrs aont obilgi^ de r^i>ondre en nmant en
on,** This definition is rather meagre.
Jonathan Bouchier.
Thb First Prikce of Walks.-'Iii the first
fOlnilia of her Querns of England, Mm Strickljind
antlled (d. 420) that Henry III made his Bon
Prince of Wales on the occasion of hia marriage.
Is there any foundation for this statement ? It is
not »np|X)rted by any references. F, R.
Obcaiu— Where can I obtain accurate knowledge
of the derivation of this proper name ?
J, ILVWES.
**Dbai>." — Can any one expkin the origin of
this word in the sense of entirely ? " He ia dead
beat " ; " Everything is dead against them."
E, K, W.
Silver Star, — I should be glad if any one
wonJd give me any explanation of a silver star
which waa lent to me some time ago for inspections
and of which the following is the description. It is
dat, of silver, and haa seven points. It has ap-
parently been fastened on aometbing, jl8 at the
base of each point are two holes. In the centre
ia a circle surrounded by a border, on which are
the following letters ; — ** ng . hrdm . JvDsh . ktf .
HP . R . ixxxiJ' The circle m divided into four
quartera, diatinguisbed by line.*^ at right ncgles to
each other, — ^in heriddic language, gules and assure
alternately,— and dividing these qmirters into eii|;ht
divisions is a broad, plain croas. A description of
it was sent to me at the same time, which dlhit^^ins
the words, " Found in an old house ; above the
ceiling of an old house in White Friars' Gate, near
the Charity Hall, Hull T. Smith," with some ex-
pknation of the ioscription, which la to mo un-
intelligible. PerhapH some of vour readers can
affer^n explanfition of it* D. W, Marsdek,
Chequer G^te, Loath,
VnuKcn ABJfotrR. — In looking over the i
accounts of some of the old churches of Bs
find repeated mention of the church annotl ^
charges for bearing the church arms in th#l
For instance, in the records of St* Werbttrgh*aJ
appears under the date —
" 1945. To bearing: of y* church armes
62 weckeii . . , . £2 If'
1646. To a nmskett for the church U 0"
Similar entries occur in thi s of
churches of Bristol, a ooralet I
charged for. The questions I \\rn\:
it a former custom for the church
flesh and blood as well as iigainst -^
and are there any instances of the
armour being yet preserved as rdic.> .
JOHK TaTLOR,
Bristol MtifQum and Library.
A Watkr-Colour Draw mo. — Will any
your readers help me to the anthorshlp of
following. It is a water-colour drawing, 19 x
inches, of the interior of a kitchen or comi
room. The chief and be4!t part is a group of
women at a round table in the middle of the
all wear a Biiiall white cJose-fitting cap, with
round it. Two are sitting, one with her *
us, with her arm on the table, tilting the
which hangs a bag ; one Is sitting facing
points to the inside of her teacup, which si
holding up, looking up at the other wouii
is standing facing us with her anus akim
the end of the room, an older woman ia
with strings hanging loose, is ironing j at
by the door, si little girl is feeding « do^
basin ; a boy (it la Webster, in pinni
hat) i.^ pointing to the dog; on the J
with urn, jugs, plates, &c.; on the rij^iu, the
burning brightly and cat on the nig. It
like a sketch for a picture, the subject of which i
** telling the fortune or visitor from the t<*a'l^f '
the cup," If there is such a picture about t
time of Wilkie, I should be glaj^l to know tif it.
Geo. Wa
Brighton.
"Put up with tt." — How and whf p ^" ' '
phrase originate? Richard Baxter, in
biomiphy, {^peaking of his preaching bt'i'^t- ^ c-^"
well, says, '* the plainness a^nd nearness, I hofX^^
wm displeasing to him and his court ier&, but ih«t
pnt it up/' This appears to be another, posaiUj
an older, form of expression of the same iidea.
Obscurk WoRa** i5 Rrpoir Wii ; v "• '
glad of satisfactory explanations <
words, occurrin*> in fifteenth-ccntu!^
Pncuarium {QT ptsiu.ariuM'^. After lui u'l
and bed, "nouin petcuArtum.'
A liarium, Betu ccn a tab and a dblii **
blodium.''
ui gam
•mfclLKor.14,71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
^
p4i iMmiifulmm. In couoetion with bedding " ouiuu
|>efp«iHUailuin " 0 ^ curtain ar litkiigin|;).
jLtetrvn. " [Jauju prioiorium cum y ciitiit ei lectrum
AtiDeztim*— ttnam leciruta cum oda oiatA incliua, infra
•tmlram m cttpeUft pradictft " (1 * dttik foe wHtiDg or
Sulhupt . ** UDim togwn dupUcAtun oum bokkAjyn."
JUiPaii. " De pftoDo Tooftto lewui/*
Ci^«(riiuk *^ I tarn h&^r pro ostrinA xxx ulzue."
ilo^ ** Item in carootiibua de lUle/*
Jlffo^ * Item j mjif pro pane micftodo/*
OiiL Among ai^ricotturAl taiplemsnti^ '* Itvm de j
caU p'e» xijd."
C?raii<»Ai)3i« Among funeral cx(>cii«ci, " Item Thomas
Walworth pn> U ^muiibhip, xij 3. yiij «!/*
SetetMt, ** I. ij; C. . . . Be we lit Ordigne niakTth and
declaric mj tcstamont."
J T F
Hatfield UaU, Dorham.
HAHTLKBdTIlT CAflTLK : TiCKELL's HoMKR's
"lujLD.*^ — Many yeurs ago, with Prof. Conington,
I eeareh^, bj permiaston of BLshop Pepys, the
libnry nt HtirtJebury, for a copy of Tickeirs vereion
of the first book of the Jlioa, with MS. notes by
Pope. We could not find it. It was given by
B«ed to Bbhop Hurd ; but lM?fore he parted with
ti Ke made a transcript, which was afterwards in
the hands of Alexander Chalmeni. The present
>p of Worceiter lias kindly aeardied for the
which appears In a catalogut?, hut has di»-
' fSrom the uhelves. A copy with notes by
wa« said to have been 8old at the iale of the
John Mitford, who may possibly have hor-
it for litemry purpoaes, and who may have
i\\9 writi'r in the GeniUman*^ Maga^ju^ for
K who speaks of having a copy of
iiniog Pope's M8. notes, in hie poa-.
^fimon. V\tk Conington 's MUMantmu iVritings,
mh i. p, 47. Can any of your riiadere trace the
voltune, or ToJumes, and transcript I
G. B. Boyle.
RidderminBter*
Talent amo Tact, —
''Talent is power; tact is skill Talent Is weight;
tact u momenttini. Tnlent knows whut to do; tact
Jmowt how to do it. Talent niiikc} a man reipectable ;
tact makef htm reacted. Talent is weidth ; tact is
ready money."
Wanted nanic of autljor and where in hia works
tbfiM frequently quoted words may he found.
W. S. S.
BL, J4>hn'i Terrace, New Wandaw<>rth.
" UTEKRi^TrrLJEfl,'* — Havc I coined a good word,
nr am I r ' ititit it has once been
in Ti«w» f J/ well founded, per-
^ ^ ' other correspondent,
*e. I am well aware
ii,^,. .'U4iv^ »n^i»ci* I/; «^i-. Johnaon as out of
aac in his Didimaryj tdl 1785. K C.
MEDIEVAL ANB MODERN LATIN AND
GREEK VBESE.
(6*^ S. ii. 248, 289» 337, 369.)
I may add, from my library —
1. "Marci Hleroaymi \\d», Cremononsi^^ Alb» Epti-
copi, De Arte Portic4 Ltbri tref, Hucolica, et Epittola
adJoantiem Matthmum (jibertum. Annotationet acyecit
Tho. Trntram. A.M., ColL Pemb, Oson. Social. Oxonii,
Typia Academicia, rnxjcxxii,'*
Published by subscription , with the "Impri-
matur'' of " Rob. Shippen, Vice-Can. Oicon., Oct.
28, 172L" Large 8vo. Mine is a auhscnber's copy
—my great-great-grandfather's, Herbert Randolph,
Founder's kin Fellow of AH Souls at the time. It
is a beautiful book, printed in the best type, on
fine paper, with a frontispiece portrait of the author
by \ ertue, and many steel vignettes by Gucht and
others.
The ''Preface to the Reader" thus speaks of
Vida as a poet : —
" lllud tnibi in prlmii car» f^lt, at poeta noster, ciyos
tanta eat nativa dignitas et niBJ^e«taa, tantnwjue iplondor,
ui Virgilium ti excipiaa (iptum poetici orbis eolem foQ-
temqueluob omnis et coloHs), Vida inter poetai omnes
emioet.
" Velut inter Igoei
Luna ininores.**
2. "Johannis Bonefonii Arremi Cannlna. Landini,
Ex ofBcina Jacobi Ton»on et Johaonit Watts, unooxx."
On the fly-leaf, " Jo. Bonefonii, Basia." This m
a 12n]0. volume. The anonymous editor, in hia
" Preface to the Reader,** refers to some oensurw
by former editors and writers, of occasional offencsee
against good morahi, and against the purity of the
Liitin language ; but, upon the whole, compares
the authoPs style to the elepnce of Cattillus, and
hi^rhly appreciates the felicity of hia versification.
Josephus Scaliger, Stephanua Purchasius, and OL
Binetus, add poetical commendations in the manner
of their time.
3. " Th« Worki of Mr. Thomas Brown, in Proee and
Vcrw, SeriotM, Moral, and Comical. In two Volumes.
Contents, &c. To which ie prefixed, A Character of
Mr. Tho. Brown and hi* Writingi, by James Drake, M.D.,
Fellow of the Collejre of PhysiciaBt and Royal Society.
London, Printed for Sam. Hnsooa, and aold by B. Bragg
at the Raven in Patemoeter Row. 1707,"
This very loose but singularly witty volume
was dedicated by Mr. Drake to the Duke of Or-
mond, as the great patron of the men of letters in
his day, chieHy on the ground that "The First
remarkable Essay of Mr. Brown in Poetry was
an Ode (Latin) congratulating the recovery of His
Grace's grandfather from a dangerous fit of sick-
nej*s.^*
This otle, Mr. Drake informs his readers in his
** Chiu-dcter," ** was printed in the first volume of
the * Music Oxoniense«/* under the title of* Hoteria
Ormondiana/ whicli^ though written when he was
• Mr. The, Btowu wm ol C^iarkA^Stosadtx^'CyiitsA.
NOTES AND QUERIES. is* a n. kot. h ti.
▼ery yoting, is equal to auy modern ode what-
•oever/^
The other productions of his Latin muse are a
few epitaphs und epigrams scattered tkrough the
vohime. The most striking of which is the foUowiDg^
worthy to he preserved in the pages of *"' N. & Q." :
** Jalii Mazaritji Cardlnftlia Epitaphlum.
Hie Jticft Julius MazarinoH
LtftllioB Rex Jtafi'atJ,
EcclesiJB presul Iaicuii
Europse prtedo purpurutiia.
PortutiaiQ omnem ombiit, omnom cormpit^
iEmrium frdminlstmTit et exh&ueit,
Cirilc beMiira compreaiitp Bed commoTit,
Hegni Jurn tuitua eit, et inTasit,
Benelicia pDs^edlt, et vendiditf
Pacem dedit aliquarido, din diatuUt ;
Hostt-s cladibuBp ciree otieribui aMixit :
Arrisit paucia, irriiii plurimoa,
OmnibiiB nocuit.
KegotiAtor in templo, Tjrr&nDUS ia regno,
Praido in mimijterio,
Vulpes ID coQctlio,
Grtisf&tir in bello.
Solus nobis Id pace ho^tia,
Fortunam olim adTeraam aut eluBil aut viclt.
Et nostro 6«culo vldimuB
Adorari fujjitivtim,
Irnperatfi civibus exutflm,
Kegnare proscriptuni.
Quid deinde eg«?rit ? Rogaa ? paucii accip« :
Luslt, fefellitp rapait^
Ferrcom nobis induxit tfficubni, «ibi ex auro tioitro
AiLTum feciL
Quorundum capiti, nulJius fortutiia pepercit
Homo crude I iter Clemeni.
Pluribua tandem mii>rbii elanguit,
Flares ei caslo mortes irrog&Dte,
€ui i«natus olim unara tan turn dccrcTemt.
I'ljtcCTii* ae Jirdbuft inclneit morituriu
Et q a idem aptij
QuoBsivit carcerem.
Dift cedent em an imam rotinuit, aegre reddidit.
Sic rr tine re omnia didicerati
Nibil siiii tfponte reddere.
Confttantar t»men vieuii est mori ; quid mimm i
Ut vixit sic ublit disaimulanA.
Ko niorbuiii quidem note runt qui curabant :
Hac una fraud e nobis profuit,
Fefellit medicos.
MortuuB est tameti m fmtlimur ; et moriens
Eegem regno ^ regnum regi restittiit,
Reliquitj
Prsesulibue; pessima ''xempla,
AuliciA infldtt consilia,
Adopt I fo amplts»ima spolia,
F&upertatem populis.
SucccflaoribuB mis omnea priedandi artes,
8ed prsdam nultam.
TmroensaJi titmcn opes licet profuderit
Id unum tantum babuit ex suo quod daret*
Nomen a num.
Pectu» ejus po<)t mortem apertum est.
TuQk pnmiim patuit Tafrum cor
M!iz*rini.
Quod uec precibos, ncc lachrjnm. nee injuriis morerotur :
Diu quicj§ivimiiJ, inrenere medici
Cor lapideuin.
• Vince&net.
QaM mortoui adhuc omnia tnore&t et admuuttimt* ne 1
mireris ;
Btipendia in hunc annnm iieceptt.
Nee fraiidat po«t mortem v '
Quo tandem tandem eva-
CcDlum 8! nipitur tent^t, ai datur i
8ed nbi, Tiaiof^ et eavc,
Nam hie tumuluii
Eft sptau I^tronit. "
4, ''Virgilii ETangoHzantts Christiadolu Libri XIU
In quibuB omnia quic do domino nostro Jeta Cbri«t»td
utroque Testamento, vcl dicta vel t)r»dict» iuiit, alts
DivinA Maronia tubA iuaTiNim^ dccantautur. /iv
Alexandro Rosico.
Arma Tirumquo Maro cecinit not acta 1
Cedant nrma viri dum loquor acta DeL
Boterodami. Ex officmii Arnoldi Leers, 1653."
'* 1653, Febr. 1, Old Alexander Roe^?e (author of \
p^ltui Evangel i tans and mftnv other little booke '
sented me witli his book against Mr. Uobbe^t
than.'*— iTtw^/n'/ Diary, p. 270.
fn ** Poeta? Rusticnntis Liter&tum otiam. SiTe '
mina Andre^e Frauctsei LandesiL Secunda editio„Driaiff'
auotior. Londini, Impensis Bernard! Litttott, Bibli^
polte Londinensifl. Miiccxin."
The poems consist of three books of ** 1
or henciec«sTlhibic odes, about fifty in :*i
bo<">k of " Sylva?/^ containing three short
viz.^ ** Daphnifl, Ecloga^^ ad Thoniam
NobOem PhiloBophum;' *' Kuganim Luujs i
lid Isiiaciim Newtonum, Omnium qui sunt \
maticorura principem," and " Hedera, — Mefa
phoais, ad Seipionem Santaureum."
6. " Basia Jobannts Stxundi Nicoliii Ha^nais, mi
Kisses of Jobanncs Secundus Nicolfttus of the ~~
In Latin and English Verse. With the Life of £
and a crttic upon his Basia. Adorned ^itb a C
Author, ttnd another (»f his Mistress Julia, engr
?lie famous Jlemard Picart, the Roman. London :
for Henry Lintot,* at the Cro» Keys, between tliel
tifttes. Fleet Street, mpccxxxi."
In the monastery church of St. Atnniul is ^e
following epitnph : —
" Jobanni Secondo Ha^rensi.
Poetffi celeberrimo et nulli secundo : cujus tmnoloi
H»reticorum furore anno cio ic<i.xvl Tiolatum« Catrillv
da Par. Abbas, ob tanti vlri tncmorijim restaurari C
Obi it anno cri). lo. xxxvi, Kalend Octobr.
a tecretis Geor^i Egmondani Trajo<;teiit.
Episcopi, bujus loci Pro-Abbatia,"
7. ** Drunken Bornabv'a Four Journeys to the XofUi*if
Eiigland. In Latin and EngUih Verse. WHlUy sal
merrily (tbo' nvar one hundred years ago) cttrnpoiri'
found among some mu«tj old b<K)ks that bad a long iima
lain by in a corner ; and now at last made pubho. 7i>
wliich is added, Bessy BolL
* H ic est quem qnicris, iVle quem reqiuris
Toto notus in orbe Bntanrioa.
Baroabus Ehrius.' Hvr,
London : Printed for S. Itlidge, under gearle's Oatt
Lincoln's Inn New Square : and sold bj 8. Ballani iaJ
Little Brftain, J. Grares in bt. Jsmes's Streett *'^|
J. Waltboe, over against the Royal Exchajige. 1716.**
Sir Henry Halford, M.B., waf «ocu9tom«d t^l
* Lin tot's name ia pnnted int€rchaiig«ably In tHl*'
^^Ad||e« with oae ur ino " U*' linaL
^
r
I
I
I
ff» B. n, KOT. 14, 74.|
NOTES AND QUERIES.
391
amuse him^iclf m bis carriage, while Tisitin^ his
pcitienU, with tmnsLiting En^liah pieoe.^ into Latin
verse, nnvinir occjision to call iipcn him one day
in < " t!t» I foimd him writing out a trifle,
wbiv I tue he \md iust completed in thb
way, jiuii v^liich he r<*cit4H{ to me several times
with greflt emphasis find unctioD* in order that I
might commit it to memory. It waa n translation
of Job xix. 25, 26, 27, and rati thus : —
'EiM Iledetnt>torom agnoico ; qui cuncta vocabit
In jat^ qaotquot eo tint fuerintve die.
St licet anitunar proreua telliire repostua,
Vermlbuf ; haud uU& p«rtc rnanente mei :
Ipie meit, tamon ipse, oculig coram que videbOj
Veiiituiqne itemm came videbo l>eQin,"
The first Lord Sid mouth occupied much of hi«
leisure in the same miinner, I do not know
whether the trannlationa of either of these dia*
tinguished (y^holarn and accomplished gentlemen
were ever printed.* Herbebt IlAJfDOLFH.
Biagmore^ Iv>bridge.
[• Vid© A^m^a Jftfritte, by Sir H. Halford, Bart, 1842.]
There should not be omitted from such a cata-
logue Mr, Vausit tart's version of Lewia Carroll's
Jahherwofk, pabii^hed in the AtJunceum in May,
1872, I remember finding a friend, who was quite
innocent of the English, trying to construe the Latin
with an a.stonished expression of countenance. He
a»ked me what on earth it meant : I, hein^r hetter
up in modem literature^ was able to aolve his
difficultiea, Charles F. S. Warrkn, M.A.
Thb Morgue and thb Book ov MAccAnF.Ks
1 (5«> S. L 24H, 295, fil8.)— P. P. is probably right
L tn supposing that " Machabee« ■' (so Littre spells it)
1 10 the slang expression ^'livre des MachabL^es** is
i identical with ** Macabre,** for Littr^ «. r, " Ma-
fcahre,'' haA a long article ahowing that, in hia
pinion, la dariM Macabre and la dante tkg Ma-
" r are the aume thing. Only, " Machabeea "
, ad P, P. fiupposea, a corruption of **Macabre/'
pbnt the two wonls are derived from different cases
]of the Latin word M luhtf^tut, Machahees comes
I from the aoc. plur, Machabaos^ and Maatbre from
Lthe gen, plur. AfacJiabaarum^ for la dan»e du
^ts (which Littre says =^ la (lan^e Maeabre)
lied in mediieval Latin chorea Ma^abtworunu
choTfa MachabiEorum, however, as described
Ijby Ducange, does not exactly correspond to what
now onder^tood by la dan*e Maml>ref or by
*lanee of ikath; but Littr^» as will be seen
ijUjtiiUaim that tbejare of common origin.
* " " 01 timnalated by Littre, is
I plaiflante, pieusement in-
Mxije par les eccleHiasttqoea, ct duns laquelle hs
d|g&itaire«, tant de rEgtise que du monde, conduisant
•Biemble la danse» sortaient tour ii tour de la danse
polir expnmer que chacun de nous doit subir la
moil** And Ltttr^ remarks upon thia : ** On ne
pmt dOQiear que la dann Maeahrt et la damt de$
Machabies ne so it une seule et m^me chose. On
peut supposer que les sept fr^res Machiibccs,* avec
fileazar et leur mere, fiouffmot succe^sivement le
martyre, donnirent I'ldee de cette danse oil chacun
de>» rKjmonnages s'dclipsiiit tour k tour, et qu'en-
Buite, pour rendre ridee encore plus frappante, on
char^ea la mort de conduire cette danse fan-
tastique."
It was, no doubt, from this dange des Machabimf
understood in the sense of %lan%f Macabre or the
dance of drath^ that the wor<l Machahlc came to
signify '** dead body " in French slang, and that
the terms livrt da MachaUfjt was, by a grim joke>
applied to the register at the Morgue. In Larchey^a
Ihcf. de PA rgot FarUku, I find Machahit defined
ii^i follows : ** On anpelle Machabt^c toutctre, homme
ou aninial^ priv<^ ae vie, que Ton rencontre fiottant
sur un couR d'ean ou cchoue sur le nvage." Thia
definition differs somewhat from that quoted by
Mr. A- L. Mathew, and renders the word pecu-
liarly applicable to the dead bodies exhibited at
the Morgue.
As for Mr. C. A, Ward's derivation of Morfpu^
in the sense of ^* dead-hoiLse,'' from a supposed
French mor^ci ^= dead-watch, it is simply im-
poesible. Mortguet is made afler un English
pattern, and the formation of French words ia
altogether different from that of English ones.
If morfgutt could mean anything, it would lueoa
^* death of (the) watch *' (after the analogy of wM>r-
di€u!=:vaoTt de Bieu), and not "watch of death,"
The account of the word, however, which be
quotes from Tarver, quite accords with that given
by Littrt!' ; but Littre differs from Mr. Ward in
that he is evidently inclined to agree with M^nagei
who is of opinion that inorgut in its two series of
meanings (I. haughty countenance or look, pride;
and 2. inspection -room in a prison, deiwl-house) is
one and the same word. Manage says that in
some of the southern provinces of France mor^u^
means simply facc^ and in support of thia (which
requires confirmation) Littr^ §ays that the Langue-
docian morga means mustauA From this meaning
otfaeey M^age deduces meaning No. l,t and also
* For the acoount of th«ir martyrdom, see 2nd Mac*
cabee«, chap. 7. Though Littfi- here calta them " lea
scDt fr«res Machabtfes/" it d^»cs not appear that they
belonged to the celebrated family of the Maccabeet^wUh
whom, bowever, they were contemporary.
f Iti Honnomt'i Hrof^ni;ai Ihd, I find morga and ats*
iHor(7t(^ = w»/jf OH, which in French ia properly applied
to tbe projecting note nnd mouth or face of an amnud
(our mit-zzU), hut u often familiarly as«d of the human
face ; and probably Manage had ihta in bis head when he
iaid mor^ite = fact in the ioath of France.
X The meanfnga of ** haughty cnuntenunce or look, and
pride" m'«y well be deduced from thatof /<ic^ for we iise
JOtcit =:=confidenci\ boldneia, effrontery (bcc Jol^nson and
Wcbiter); whilst in lAtin m/hLj wc.mctimts iiieani "an
angry or stem countenanoe '* (Kiddle), and the Greek
«-(i<i(rtf roy (fac«) t^m hM the meaaing of *' lcK»k and coua-
tenaoott."
392
NOTES AND QUERIES. [i?»B.nitor.li.*ri.
the meaning of " inspection- room," where the facu
of the prisonera are examined, and finally that of
*' dead-nouse,'^ where the bodies are put that the
fata may be recognized*
The piLssages quoted from different authors by
Littre certainly support this view of Menage'Sj for,
whilst hia earliest example of morgue in meanings
No. 1 dates from the sixteenth century^ he has no
example of morgut m mjeaniiigs No. 2 earlier than
ie74>
It seems a little singular, however, that a word
Bignifying face should come to mean a pUic* whei-e
fo^cu are examined or exposed for recognition.
I am of opinion, therefore, that from tiiorgue^ face,
was fiiBt formed the verb morguer, to look at the
face, and henc« to look at steadily^ to stare one out
of countenance (like the Fr. ddvUager from i^isagt) ;
and then that from thk Maae of morgueTf morgue
acquired its secondary meaning of ** inspection-
room," from which that of " d^ad-house " naturally
flows. In conJirniation of this view, I may cite
Scheler, who gives morguer the meaning of " re-
garder fixement, examiner,'- antl suyj* the fun-
damental idea in morguer is tUvuagefj which be
explains " regarder mielquiiD longuement et avec
«ffronterie "; whilst Littre says tbut ^norguer was
formerly used = ** examiner lea priaooniers a ieur
entr^ daus la geole, afin de lea reconnoitre."
In conclusion^ it seems to me vory likely that
Ihe word mart, the souml of which is beard in the
word morgu^ may have had some influence in
deteniiiniDg its use in the sense of *^ dead-houae,'*
especially as ifwrgui =:mordi^ == mordieu = (par la)
mort de Dieu ! woa in use as on oath.
F. Chajtck.
Sydflnliam Bill,
[Iq English ihmg, mtig = face]
**AtyLD HoBix Gray''(5*»> S. ii. 206, 27 I.J—
It wHl probably be interesting to your readers to
have the following additional particulars from
memoranda which 1 made some yeare ago. The
song was written by Ltidy Anne Baruard^ who
long kept the matter secret, till at length she
avowed herself the author^ as may be seen in her
letter to Sir Walter Scott^ in July, 1823, from
Beikeley Square, London, which will be found in
the Lives of tJi4 Lindsay $^ by Lord Lindsay^
London, 1849, vol ii. p. 391. the historj' of the
ballad is very folly detailed at p. 3:j2 and the
following one^ and an authentic copy appears in the
Appendix, No. XLVII. Robin wiis the old herd
at Balcarrjia, and the verses were written to an old
Scottish melody of which Lady Anne was psis-
* The only objection that Llttr6 5 rid* is that Mercier.
a French writer (1740 18U) uses monw in the wnst* of
** dend hottM," and not morgue. But I cannot aeo the
force of this olyeotiod^ a», if Mercier did not u§o morgwt
in t)iia soma, other contemporary writer* (quoted by
Littr^ MmacU) did.
Aniki^
sionately fond, and which was sung by ao eocentik
old Scottish kdy, and wa« called Tht Briddgroim
grot w}un Oie Sun gaid doiuu The raebdjr le
which the song was subsequently ?r" - * - >fiii
Stephens was composed in imitation 'iwk
melody by the Rev. William Leaves^ >; \'*\.^gUm^
and was annexed to a work containing aotne aacrod
airs composed by him, and published in 181S»
He died in 1828, aged eighty. The first four UlM
were adapted by John Wilson, the takatid
vocalist, to the old Scottish melody, which that
make^ a kind of recitative introduction to Mi.
Lenves'a beautiful and expressive melody : —
" When the tlioep itre in ihe fauld and the kye at
And a' the veary world to sleep are fcane^
The wBca o' my lieart fa' in ahow'rs frae mr e'e,
lYhile my gude man aleepa soundly by nie«
Dean Rarnsuy, vmting under date of Fcbnianp 25,]
187 1, thinks that the song written by Liuiy Anfti
Barnard, although beautiful in itself, is a good deal
indebted for its great and continued popularity to
the air so composed : —
'* The hifltory of that t^ider and appropriate melody,''
he adds, '' ia somewhat ounous, and not ge iie rally kaowB.
The author was not » Scotaman. . . . Mr. Loaves mf
fond of mu^ic, and composed sereral eong«, but oottl
pained any notice but hi« Avid Robin Grajf, tki
popularity of which baa been marvel loua. I Imew ilit
family wlien 1 lived in Somertetahire, and have met
lb cat at Bath* Mr. I^eavcA composed tbe air Tot hit
daughter, Mua Iksay Leaveti who wm a pretty girl and
a pretty singer/'
Dean Ramsay's letter, I believe, was addrened
to Mr. J, J, Gmy, of 10, Royal Exchiknge, GUa-
govt'. Some pnrticuhirs as to the impassioQ^ mode
in which Miss Stephens used to sing tliis weD^
known song, which she got from Mr Lettves^ witfc
whom she wa« acquainted and whom she highlv ea-
teemed, are to be found in a work entitled Tli^'. 3f «aic
of Nature^ by Mr. William Gardiner, of Leicester*
who, while criticizing Mi&s Stephens's style^ yet
states that the exquisite tenderness of her tonet
contributed not a little to the estimation in which
this ballad haa been long held.
J. HUBAND S>«TH.
Royal Iriah Academy, Dublin,
FvKMARTKX (5*»» S. il 248, 260. 3O0.)--ThU ;
without doubt the same as ilie foumart of / '
rendered " tbe mustek, the weasel (ii local ^
and fufiierj "the polecat of the same
the/u^mart of Bailey, rendered " a kiml of j
cat " ; the modem fulmar (not the tea-
fQumari, foultmart, fulimart; Sco. fou\
Webb ^ffkvlbart^ a fitchet, pj^lecat In a voli
vocabuiaries, edited by T, Wright, 1*\S.
English vocabulary of the fifteenth -"♦•^'•^
** hie fetonaruB A*fuhtu:rd" ; a nm
century, **hic f^'o'fi"^ A*'*, i%J
i n a no te^ M r. ■ Is/ ' a wo i
still in use in l:^ _ loru diale'j^
{ScoL Diet) giTes *' FowmarU^ a pole-OBit ,.
r
5* a n, KoT. H, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES-
393
Aota, Ja. I 1424, c. 24 et 1566, we find, *and for
X* Fawmartis skinms callifc Fitbowis, X. <L*"
Some think foumart^ fulirnart cootractioQS of
Foul Martin^ in contradistinction to the Sweet
Martin. Junius hua '* Fullmer, idem quod pole-
Martes est k Theot* ful^ putidus et tturder,
dndii?;, martes " ; and he observes that in
3tl ' r is called mM, from its bad smell
(** J ib odore t«ttt) vme nuncup^tur quod
fuit ui t'lfM''), Kilian ttccordingly rendera Teu-
tonic vUm, j($st^ viidu^ "mustehe genus valde
putidum"; "hence," Bays Jamieton, "fitchet/'
Cont A.-S. nuard, mmrth(Q, mani^; P. viarter;
.nwrdr ; Dan. maar; Sw. mdrd; Plat, 'm/mrd,
(ip tnardt maarU; Fr. martre; Med. L.
inr)^ which Bosworth renders "a merten,
Cerret^ weaael, marUSf mmUia, Wuchter (Gloss.)
*'Mard0^^ martert muateU Scjthica ob Btmilittidinem
«iim donuEitica iic dictA; marder, marttTf muMtela qu»-
dMi dotpcstica. galliaii et Columbia iofettiu Sunt qui a
mmit cle diotam putftut, qu&gi bestiAia martiam et
Di|gpftO«m: hoc taiDexi suppoiito quod marUt eit tox
Laliruk. (^txa in ro illoi folli oMtendit Meiuigius. Gennania
d(<fif)tare poUst latronem, aui aves domestical Juj{iu]at|[ai
dcfiinetur a mordai n«care<
E. S. Ohabjyock.
<ffmy'i Inn.
P*8* The iirst part of the word might even be
from the /Jol< in pole-cat. Oonf. foal, found /of«,
Am'B, fot/j^ Dan. /o^, Lat. pnlluij Greek ttiuAos,
_ Btbon: "SiEOK OF Corinth" (5*»» S, i. 406 ;
I ia» 5C1, 177.) — " In the year since Jestua died for
txma " occiuRi in the one- volume edition of Byron's
Workiy Pitria, 1835, Of these lines, opening the
Si€Q€ of Corinth, it is said, p. 2Ha, that they were
sent enclosed in a letter to Murray by Lord Byron,
kChrUtmas-day, 1815 ; and Moore remarks that
"* are written in the loosest form of that
ling style of metre which his admiration of
Coleridge's Chrisiabel led him at the time to
dUlopt." It is true that Byron said he had never
rejul Chti^labtl at the time he wrote the lines
(Unit twelve lines of stanza xix.); and be adds that
' afterwards that he heard that "wild
U original poem recited '*■ so that he
^tiiUitua the pure origination. But he in-
" rgow on to add that "the original idea
tly' pertjiJn» to Mr, Coleridge.'* In this
confusion of iL'isGrtion and thought, any one who is
Hjm ".e will know what to think. It
iiat Byron had heard it recited
Lt -MKMi'un, or somebody else, and had for*
otten the fuct, or confused the dnte in his head,
version is such rubbish com pared
«'s, that it is impossible to doubt who
nin those wonderful Unea ; —
><1 enoTif^h to twirl
, tbc lofit of itfl ctan^
uiku Ad danc^ it c«iv i
Hanging bo light, and hiiof^ng &o bigh^
On the lopnuwi twig that looks up i&t th« sky.**
Also let me draw attention to the passage from
Tsjuah xvii. 6, to which I believe we owe the
origination,—*' Two or three berries in the top of
the uppermost bough." 0. A. Waed.
May fair.
Edwards of America {b^ S. i. 409 ; ii. 29,
54,)— In his inquiry rekting to the Edwards's armtf
I obecrve H, B, speEs the name of the first wife
of Richard Edwards Tuthill^ an error of some
American genealogists. In all the Lives of Jonn*
than Edwards, or editions of his work.^, that I have
seen in which his lineage or ancestry is referred to,
this name is spelled Tultle. And this is also the
idmost universal practice of the descendants of this
family, from the first generation donm. In the
few exceptions, it is spelled Tuttell, corresponding
more nearly with the Welsh Totyll (see M^yricJc**
Heraldic Visitation of Wal^, note i.. p. 183) than
with Tuthill. There are strong reasons for be-
lieving that William Tattle the emigrant, who
brought II certificate from St. Albans, in April,
1635, and embarked on the ^^ Planter," and
arrive<l at Boston a few months later, was a grand-
son of Richard Totvl, the printer, whose father
was William Tutyl],"fiigh Sheriff of Devon, 1559,
and Mayor of Exeter, 1552.
I have nearly readj^ for the press a genealogy of
the Tuttle fiimily, *. e, descendants of WUliani
Tuttle, of New Haven.
There is a belief among the descendants of John
Pierpont that Sir Greorge Pierpont w&a hia unole.
Sir George had a son Robert, who was created
Earl of Kingston, 1628. His hist male descendant
was Evelyn Pierpont, second Duke of Kingston,
who died in 1773, when the houses and estates
ought to have descended to the heirs of William
in America. Instead, they went to the nephew of
the Duke, C'harles Meadows, Esq., who assumed
the name of Pierpont, &c. The above is published
in at least one American book of good authority.
I should be glad to obtain the facts respecting the
lineage, ancestry, and antecedents of my emigrant
ancestors, John Stow and William Tuttle, and
any infonnation on these points will be gratefully
appreciated, Gboror F. Tcttlr.
mw, 22 Street. N«rw York City. U.S.A.
[COTDmufiicntions on this aubject to be addressed to
the wntef of the above]
Robertson Family (5«» S. il 127, 211, 239.)—
The Crown Charter of 1451 (25lh August)^ by
King James IL, Ls to Robert DuncaneAon^^ of
Strowan, of the lands of Strowan (otherwise
Glenerochie, lying on the south side of Loch
R^mnocb), and many others named, with the forest
in the Earldom of Athole, which at that time
would be in the King's hands through forfeiture.
All^ bj this charter^ wew erected i^tia ^ Vsjasso^xsi
394
■F NOTES AND QUERIES.
XL Nw. II.Ti '
be called Strowan ; and the specified consi deration
for which is thus expressed in the charter:
** Pro ca^iciotie RefiuisHimi proditorfs quondam
Robert! le Grahajne " {Reg. Mag. Sig.^ iv, 227).
This chjirter shows that at thm period the faDiLly
surname was not Kohartaon but Dnncanesone,
having origin lilcely in that Duncan Macdonald,
or, as Skene thinks, " De Atbolia," Bkyer of the
wolves, and to whom Nisbet rcfere ; and also that the
Kobertaon eponymus was this Robert, the captor of
th© chief inatrmnent in the murder of James I., as
well as of the Master of A thole. It would, no doubt,
be near this time, too, that the^idditauient would be
given by the King to the family arms — the wild
man in chains, a.s well im the crest and motto. But
the additional story relatiof^ to this Robert riding
to the King at Perth for a new grant of his lands,
after being mortally wounded, as given by Ander-
son, from Skene (Scott kh Nation^ vol. iii. ^46), can-
not be regarded :ii« much better than a loat! myth.
The Robertsons were, in Gaelic, known as the
Clan Dnnachie, sjiid to import the "children of
Duncan''; that Duncan perhiip who^ according
to Skene (Higklar.deu of Sroihndf ii. 140), was
the son of Andrew, designated " De Atholia," The
lASt representative in the direct niaU Hrie of tbia
family is said to have been Alexander Robertson,
of Strowan, the well-known Jacobite leader and
poet, and who was alflo, as it is supposed, the
prototype of the Baron of Bradwardine in Wavtrlaj.
He died in !749, in the eighty-first year of his age,
without lawful issue ; and on this the family estates
devolved, in terms of a trust settlement, on Dun-
can, the son of Alexander Robertson, of Drum-
a*;hune, the nearest lawful heir mde. He wtia
succeeded by his son, CoL Alexander Robertson,
■who died in 1H22, unmarried. His successor wa^
Alexander Robertson, whose grandfather was
Robert, called Bane^ the son of Donald, the second
son of Duncan, called Mor, of Drumaehune, a
younger son of Robert, tenth lord of Strowan.
This Alexander was succeeded by bis son, Major-
General George Duncan Robertson, C.B. He
again by bis son, George Duncan Robertson, born
in 1816, an oflScer in the 42nd Highlanders.
For more extended information, Celto-Scotus
may refer to Anderson, fScoUish jVa/t'ow, vol. iii.
345, and ErowTi's Butory of the BiffhlamU and of
the Clans, vol. tv. 460, both of whom rest on
Skene, Jli-ghlandcr^ of Hcoilandy ii. 140. L.
CuPER's Gaedens (5* S. ii. 349) w-ere in
Lambeth, over against Somerset House. The
present Waterloo Bridge Road runs over the very
centre of them. The plac« was noted for fireworks,
and was a report of the profligate of both sexe^.
Pennant (J ccount of London^ p. 34, 1791) says Boy-
dar Cuper waa gardener to the Eurl of Arundel,
and that when Arundel House. Strand, was pulled
down^ to make w^j for the strectj th© mulikled
statues were carried over to these gard'*^=
valuable part was bought by Lord Lr
his son's widow presented them to the L „,
of Oxford. It waj^ from the roof of this bon
Hollar engraved his view of Ix)ndon. At
Btigation of Evelyn^ the library was given to \\
Royal Society. The first meetings of the Sodei
were held in Anindel House, and Wren wiu
have rebuilt it for the Duke of Norfolk. It
pulled down in 1678, and the river-side was cover
with the rubbish from the new chupch of St. Pawl'l
Another memory clings to old Arundel House, fo(
the brave Sully was lodged there on his emb
to James L
It would appear that the Earl of Arundel reoCed
the grounds in Lambeth opposite His h - ^-i
no doubt it was thus that Cuper, his gft.
them, when his lordship no longer wan....* ..
Picture how pleasant must then have been
lordly Thames, with gnisa-mantled fields in
betli facing the noble mansions of the ~
The big embankment of the present is but
exchange for the scene presented to the eye
in 1670.
Aubrey (quoted by Cunningham) calls ttwrai
Cupid's Gardens, and says they were held of Jewoi
College, 0x0 n. Allusion to the gardens occurs ii
several popular songs. C. A. Warc*
May fair
See my Top\dar Music of (he Olden Ttmtt i
727- S, for there is too much to transcribe. OH
ally " Ctrper's Gardens," the name became
rupted, perhaps not inappropriately, into ** Cnpidli
Gardens.'* Opened 1678, closed V!(>3. A popolaf 1
reminiscence of the gardens is preserved Mno&^i
nurserj'-maids in their song: —
'• 'Twaa down in Cui>id's g&rdcn
For plcftsure 1 did sjo,
To we the f*ireBt flowers
That in thai garden ^ow,*' &e.
Wm. Chappsll.
See Dodsley^s London and iU Environs^ 1761 J
which says they were—
"For severttl years n place of public entertaiainflt}t;J
the gurdens were illnminiLttrd^ and the rompany eatoi
taint'd by a band of mujio, and firework » ; but thu, witb '
other placet of the sarae kind» has been lately diiooiH
tinued by an act that hiu reduced the nutiibrr o' then J
seats of luxury and dUsipation. Here are atnrslj
Btatue«, &c., the rcmaias of Greek and Romjin ;
nuUieit, — supposed to bo part of the famout eolJe
the Earl of Aruadcl, — removed hither when , _
House, on the other tide of the Thanies, was turu«
a street.'*
W. PmLUpa
**Thb Man in thr Moon*^ (5^ S. ii. 210,)— J
This is the title of numerous liook^ nml rmrt:. 1
Dr. Whitaker, in his Ili^tory of <
one, th© author of which was the Rf \
Perpetual Curate of Halton-GilL, in Craven, aail |
father of Dr. Wilson^ Bishop of Sodor and iian. J
fi- a n. sor. 11.74.) NOTES AND QUERIES,
395
All attempts to obtain a copy have failed, although
I Dr. Whitnker asserteti that copies were in exbt-
' enoe in his time. Hone tried to obtain a copy
Ijy AQ inquiry in his Tabh Book^ but he did not
nucceed. Can any reader of " N, ^ Q" forward
Q(M ? The work is an account of the adventures
of one Isniel Jobson, a cobbler, who got to the
moon from the top of Penuyghent ! The book
WM SDppreaied soon after it came out, because it
waa oflensire to aome individuals whose bottled
braitu were discovered in the shop of a luniir
chemLst ! A century has poaaed away, and note
\ a reprint would be harraless.
Stbphkk Jackjbok.
Albsia (5'^ S. ii. 227.)— With the legitimate
change of vowels, and of s and soft r, Alicia,
^ili&ia^ AleBia^ and Alycia, are various spellings of
the same word in old MSS., and are to be fouud
in Bome of these works, viz., OolUctanta Topo-
nrt/rJiu^'t. et Gt7icalogi€a^ Miscellanea Gaiealogica
lica, and the publications of the Harknan
I once met with Ualicia in the Harleian
I MS. in the British Muaeunu but did not, of coursOj
|'tf<ouble to *^note it," Hkrmentrude may not
iiced these various spellings of the same
i she has not, of couree, waded through the
I for Umt purpose, but that all, or moat of
them, are so fcipelt therein » I feel quite certain.
C, Chattock, F.K.aS,
Ckstle Bromwicli.
EpiTAPn ox Tom Booth (4*^ S. Lx. 493 ; x. 10.)
—The following very eimikr epitaph in in All
" * itft* Cburchyani, Maidstone : —
" In Memory of Tho' Bmdshnw, who died
Sop' the 2d'\ 1773, Aged 82 Years.
Hera lie« a Keeper bred and born,
To turn his back he thought it tcom;
Ue wn9 1^ iTiHTi that hud f^ood akill
Man J a tjrmvt* Buck trnd Doe to kill ;
Dut thftt bold archer Dtath^ who conquers all.
Shot him to th« heart aiid caused him here to falL
in Youth or age all flesh must die,
And lum to dost u well as V
R, M M.
Macaulay's Opinions CRiTicizED(5**'S.iL 280,)
^S«ious charges have been brought against Lord
"^ f by various writers for alleged misrepiX'SJeD-
The best work on this subject 1 believe
' that of Mr. Paget, publiabed some years ago,
u, ** IVtd New Exarain : an Inquiry into certain
"™' ' **^Iiord Macaulay's Hintorij concerning
^ of Miirl borough ; 2, The IMassacro
AQOoe : 3. The Highlands of Scotland ; 4.
Yisoouut Dundee ; 5. Willii^m Penn," This
wort: ■ ^ ^ ' ^ ' in a volume of Mr.
P*g' i Futzla and Fara-
<tox<4»| i^ujuuijii - ij^ ij iiAi_ A. IV luH^rd cc Sons*
E. A. R
KaTwcll Ittipey, son of the judge,
I :- Lraatnient that Macaulay had
given his father^ and during seveml jeaxs^ about
1840 and subsequently, he vainly tried to get
Macaulay to review the opinions he had expressed.
Mr. JiDpey printed many documents, an<l sub-
mitted them to various pers4jns eminent in historic
literature, and from most of them he received ex*
presaions of sympathy. Macaulay was, however,
inexorable. JMr. Irapey was fond of German trans-
lation, and published two volumes, including the
best vereion that I have seen of Schiller's Lay of
the BeUr^ certainly a better and more vigorous
rendering than Lord Lytton's ; hut he could not
himself condense for a reading public his vindica-
tion of hia father, and, after sevend yeara of vain
ctforts, he at last entrusted the work to another,
and it was publlsihed in one or two volumes, I
forget by whoDi, but the name of Batton, Clapham,
would almost certainly be at the foot of the title.
Newcoatle-on-Tjne.
A pamphlet by J. Rowntree contains^ I believe,
replies to Macaulay, H. K. Champney.
Simeon of Durham (5**» S. ii. 340.)— The his-
toricid works of Simeon of Durham are to be seen
in Twysden'a ikriptora Decern (Lond., 1652), and
in the Surtees Societrs publications, vol, 5L The
Histor^f of the Churm of Durhmn was edited by
T. Bedford, with a diaquiaition 08 to its autliorsliip
by T, Bad, in 1732. J, T. F.
HatAeld U&ll, Durham.
Vide Tht Churek Bisi^iam of England '' Pre-
Eefomiation Series,'* voL iii. part 2, edited by the
Rev. Jos. Stevenson,— a book easily accessible.
Samuel Shaw.
Andover.
"Paddt*' (r>a» S. il 347.)— la not padi the
abbreviation of pr^rdidi or jTrtrrftctoi* E» M.
GtioTESQtTE Medieval CABvnros (5**» S. ii.
347*) — " History of Caricature and of Groltsque
in Art. By Thomas Wright, F,S.A, With Illus-
trations by F. W. Fairholt, F.S.A'' The above
appeared in the Art- Journal for the year 1863, It
may be of some use to A* O'C.
W, P. KUSSRLL.
Bath.
Scots G&sts (5*^^ S. ii. 348.)— In Kovember,
1688, King William landed in Enghind, esc*orted
by a Butch troop of Life Guards mounted on grey
horses, and the Scots Greys embarked for Holland
in the spring of 1702. Prerioua to the former
date, no allusion to the colour of the horses can be
met with in official documents, nor any order dis-
covered for remounting with grey horses ; but, in
the journals of the latter period, the regiment is
sometimes styled the ** Grey Dragoons,'* and some-
timca the "Soots Regiment of MTiite Hocaesu''
396
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*S.ILIfoT.H7l
We have, therefore, every reason to believe and
ju«5time that on, or a bliort time before, tbeir em-
biirkfttion for Holknd they were remounted with
grey horees, as an honorary distinctioD for their
galiaQtiy on all occasions ; and thns the weU-
tnowTi practice which prevailed in the Continental
amiies was adopted, of remounting every corpi
(T^liU on horses of on© colour.
William Platt.
ConMrraliTO Ctuh.
BrBOjr's Birthplace (5**» S* iL 263.)— In the
thre€ hiog:raphicAl d ictioruiries I possess, Lord Byron
is said to have been born in Holies Street, and
so siiys Murray in his Clut>nology of Lord Byron's
Life and Works preHxed to the one- volume edition,
IB41 ; and J, Henea;ie Jesse, in his London
(Bentlev, 1871), 8a\a(vol. i.,p. 46), ** at 24, Holies
Street, Lord Byron was born." If I luistuke not,
Moore gives the same birthplace.
Frede. Eule.
The Imperial Dktiofiary of Universal Bio-
graphy^ and other books which I have consulted,
ffive Holies Street aa the pla<:e where Byron was
born. In OaDningbam's Lxvt& of Eminent and
lUuitrioui EutilUhmcn (Glasgow, 1837), vol. viii,,
£. 295, it l^ stated that the poet was bom at Dover.
The balance of evidence, however, seems strongly
in favour of the drst-named place.
R A. Edwa&ds.
ARCHBiSHor Tenison (5** 8* ii. 328.) — It was
not the Archbishop, but his futher, who wiis in-
cumbent of CoUenhaui, Cambridgeshire, a living
in the gift of the Bishops of Ely, J. £. B.
" The Life or Atdbe Ali Kbak ** (5*^ S. ii.
321)) was oripnally published in French by M.
M[aitre] D[e] L[a] T[our], General of ten thousand
men in the Army of the Mogul Empire, and
fbrm^ty Commander in Chief of the Artillery of
Hyder Ally, and of a Body of Europeans in the
service of liiat Nabob. 2 voK 12mo., Paris, 1783.
"Memoirs of C. M. Talleyrand.''— The
author of The Mtvdtitioniu^ PlutarcJij FcmaU
nm$L rimUmk, Mmmnn qf C M. TaUsyraiMi,
&CL, was Stewatton, W. H. Allkutt.
Oxford.
Movable Fioukes nr Books (5** S* iL 2S7.)—
In my copy of Jfr. BlnndevU hu Ar^mae^ 7th
ed., 1636, there are three movable figures as
** workable * aa when first issued from the pttSA,
ChAS. el BAT1.KT,
WmI Bnmwteii*
I ettHnot siy which k the first brwA " In wlucb
iif«a wtre ' by
J them t : but
rthey were c*rt»mly s*» 1590,
I There are several such in ^^^
** Opmtmikim Geogriahfeiitii imrum, io4iu» ««u« iMgoCn
tiaatm^ ate imtaaAna at hreTitate oo^cpkotCBa . . «^
e« div«r«oniin libris ac chartis , * * , o^iDtfctom
pnblicAtutii, per Joanncm Myritiuin M^itentmiir ^ «
fol, Itignlaudii, 1590/*
The firiit part of this book treats of the pr
of astronomy ; and eclipaee of the Sun and Mi
OS well as other matters, are illustrated by i
paper figures, every one of which is »a perleol and
usable id my copy at ih'm moment m it
the day the work was publiabed. B„ H^ ik\
The earliest instance X can find in mjf
library is contained in Mrnatus des l^irUl
Hoviine. Fignrifi d LatinitaU donuiu* d-ilorailw'
Schuyl, Lugd. Bat,, 4to., 1664. It occurs nt n d,
where a heart is represented with t»"^ *^ .*.. wh»^^
lift up 80 a^ to show the struct'
thereof. The practice is, however, n. , :, ,,,. ii_:.
this, Edward Pbacdol
Pacl Jones's Action (6^ S. iL 34a>-CMilais
Pearson's personal bravety in this action ii nuHin
without example, and the services be rewlaid Mi
country in this remarkable engagement wm^ of*
versuiUy acknowledged. On his return to Bnffand,
the honour of knighthood was conferred npnn hioi,
and the towns of UuU, Scarborough, T
Appleby, Dover^ <^c., the Rnesia Coinj
the Roy id Exchange As?ni-»ft^*. t '^^m^nf^
their gratitude by prese i reedona il liar
corpoiations and donatio l ^ e.
Subsequently to his gallant del^iiee «f tk
"Serapis,'^ SirRicbard Pearson was mmhM^
the *' Alarm," and after that to tbe ^JkrHhm.'
He succeeded Captain Locker as Liecii.^Qof«mc
of Greenwich Hospital, where he died in Janiiil^t
1805. B. TnomwevL
Admiralty, WhitebalL
"Testamexts of the Twelve Pat
(5*^ S. i. 3< >H, 3.94)— Two of your
refer to modem versions. Among othera, R L M*
name3 French editions, of part or all of thf ^^
of 1555 an-] 174.1. and V.n.I.L.LCLV. anS»i^
edition, ' luggletofiian nd i»
1837. 1 _ i^ these gai/tkaa
would kindly mention in ymir cftlnmna to will
libraries the above editions may be mem, Tn ^
best of my knowledge, they do ttol ^ocur is fk
British Muaenm or the Bibl&olh^nd Katmile ift ,
Paris. iL & i
Trinity Colkge, Ouiitei40Sk
SsmiEt^ (&>» S. iL in, 3&3.)— While lUii
ject k doenned, wiU Loed LTrrBa.Y09» m a
other divining T^tmiim, eiplain Omlliw^ ik JU^
d SifHmnof —
" Hoe irt dixit^ Anor (
Dextran slerniiit mp^f^ibUaomumJ'
Il is Carmen xtiii. in my BAskerrOk* Tbm «i|l
think, an attempt at ,~
lender's worki. ' Mokxquk <
Kaowi ma^ 1
- ^^'
NOTES AND QUERIES.
397
I
GiooRArmcAL (5«* S. ii. 306, 359.)— The
reaaonmg of R, M — m is admirably clear from ihe
G«*efiwich stamipoint ; but what about the
ParisLnns, Viennt'se, Muscovites, &c., on the one
lijind, or the people of New York, St. Loum, S&n
Francisco, &c., on the other ? Boea an Englishman
in the Friendly Is>les keep Chrifitmas on what his
neijjhbours, the Fijian?, call the 26th DecembeT ;
*iicl mhtil should a New Yorker, a Frenchman, or
an AnstRiliai), do in the same predicament ? la
there a compromise, or on what principle do they
agree to differ ? 1 hope R. M^-m wili oblige ns
with a cosmopolitan or absolute reply, — my with
referetjre to the Sun's place when our jplunet is in
it^ perihelion* K. E. A,
St, Triduana (4** S. xi, 279.)-- The following
extraet m from the Second Keport of the Cotmnumon
on Ilifitorical AlaniMcrrpts^ London, 1871, p. 208:
••In tht* L. i^endi of the ikottiili Church St. Triduana
Ml « n one of the CompanionB of St. Eegulua
in I leading an ereniUical life at Roscoby in
AugDt, nrri lU'ing at Restalrig^, ncwr Ediiiburght where
«b8 WHS held in reTtir«»ce down to the Reformation."
J. Makusl.
Newcajtle-upoQ-TjDe.
The CoMMi7>'ioN Table (5^^ S. il 288.) — In
Holy Trinity, Hull, the Coramunion Table has
recently been placed in the nave, where divine
aervici* is ordinarily held. Formerly the nave and
ulileH were useparated from the tranaept by glazed
door^ or screertft. Prior to Us removal to the spot
indicated, the Holy Table occupied the usual place
\ in tb« chancel. Elswick.
Pahih Pribons (S^J^ S. i.468 ; ii. 153, 225, 377.)
I —The Litebt and best information is to be found
in the third volume of Maxime du Camp s Part*,
published by Hjicbette. P. P.
MKwoins OF J. T. Serres (5*^ S. ii. 289, 364.)
— Tlio(];^h Mr. Cooke's article neither is nor was
intended to be an answer to my inquiry as to the
auihortihip of The Life of J. T. B^rru, or the
wberrabouts of the MS. on which that Life is
fauii ^^<K lu" has done good service by pointing out
th< of Bome of the works of this unfor-
tttt" in the Libmry of the British Museum,
ol iuiocopiei of Tlxi Memoir. Can Mb, Cooke,
aeenu to speak with some authority {anU^
^ 29JI) on the subject of the Serres s family, ac-
CQViit for the comparative scarcity of Tlit Mtmoirs
of Harts f The explanation once given to me,
iMwnply. the old story that it hnd been bought up
hy '' nt or the Koyal Family, cerUinlv is
T€t: vie. S. T. M,
GnrrFivnoofE (J^ S. ii. 249, 335.)— I have
from Cambridge receiv€*d a courteous reply to the
[ ijarry a* to this ^^orlfrin.'' It would ?eeni that, o«
I mf bock em 1714, a certain Dr. Orifftnhoofe landed
with George L (as His Majesty's physician) from
Hanover, and that the name is supposed to be the
same as the German "Grebbenhoffe**; that there is
no other family of the same name in England, and
that it means ** Earl's Court.*' There can be little
doubt of this, a» Gra/ is Earl or Count, and Hof
m Court. C. A. Ward.
May fair.
Having known the family of Griffiidioofe, of
Saffron Widdeo, for forty years, I am enabled to
furnish the following particulars ;~The first of the
family who came to this country was a Mr. Griffin-
hoofe, who, as Court physician, accompnied
George L from Hanover. I believe the nam^e
means the House of the Grifiin, *' Hoffen," The
arms they have always borne in this country are,
A^ure, three griffins segreant between a chevron
or ; crest, a griffin segreant or. They were for
some time nettled at \Voo<iham ^lortimer, in this
county. The late Rev. Thomas Sparkea Griffin-
hoofe and his son, the late Rev, Thomas John
Griffiuhoofe, were successively vicars of Arhesden,
in this county. CiiAS, K, Probkrt.
Newport, Ewex,
BcTNTAS's Imitators (5«» S, ii. 148, 213, 336.)—
Tht Third Part of the. F%lgrim*9 Frof^rtss frmn
this Wwrli to the other was first publisihed in 1692,
and the fact that six editions appeared within the
first thirteen years of its publication, while there
were in the corresponding period but seven editions
of the genuine Second Part called for, would seem
to afford intrinsic evidence against the assumption
that ** the cheat was soon discovered," or that it
was ** the production of a common dauber,'' at least
in the estimation of contemporaries.
The Farahk of the Filgrim^ by Dr. Symon
Patrick, could not have been suggested by Banyan's
Filgrini^ Frogriu^ inasmuch os it was published
in 1665, while Bunyan was in Bedford jail, and
the Fiigrim^s Progresa did not see the light until
1678. How the learned Bishop made himself
" ridiculous " by " attempting to write " the former
work, is not clear to me j but at aU events it does
not place him in the category of **Bunyan's
Imitators." Gaston ds Bkrnevau
Philadelphia.
Mr, JgrFKBSOH DAtns (5t»» S, u. 169, 256,)--
I should like the information to be more explicit.
The supposed ancestors name was Timothy, who
left Cardiganshire in May, imi, and landed in
Baltimore August 4. I have just ascertained this
from the memoir of his brother, the Rev. D.
Davis, Castle Nowel T. 0. Uhnqnil
Soon after Jefferson Davis hjid been elected
President of the Confederate States, I happened to
be in Dublin with a friend. In Brunswick Street
our notice w*aa attracted by a large portrait in tbo
window of a ftUtio\i«i'* ^<s^. N4 si\«!0£v ^^^^ssxsaR^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5* S. IL Kof .
" Who can that be I it seems to b€ a portrait of
one of the Daviea's of Clonbonny " (a place near
Athlone in Westmeath, the rcaidenoe of a distant
branch of our IJunily)* The portrait was that of
Jefferson Davis, The likeness to the above-named
£similj waa moat remarkable. No doubt tbe
ex-President was mimed iifter President Jefferson,
but the name of " Jeffrey/' genenUly contracted
• to " Jeff,"' is borne by many of the Davies'a of
Clonbonny, F. E, D.
" TUEEEN " (5i*» S.ii. 185, 256.)— I have searched
authorities regarding this word, and find (1) that
neither Walker (182:J edition) nor Johnson (in an
old edition without date) gives either " Tureen " or
"Terrine," and (2) that Webster (1852) ami
Ogilvie's Stutknts^ give ** Tureen," the latter giving
also " Terreen/* Neomaqus.
Buix-Baitino (5^ S. L 182, 274, 312, 455 ;
ii. ^99.)— 1 thank H. S* G. for hia reply. Perhaps
he can add to the obligation by information as to
where a copy of tbe DaTlanton BidUBaii may pos-
sibly be obtained. It appears the inhabit^mta of
that place, or Wednesbuiy, were not altogether
pleased by the ballads. The guard of the Slu*ews-
traiy coach, I am told, played the tune of one of
them on his bugle when passing through, upon
which tbe aborigines rose up, stopped the horses,
pulled him off the coach, and drubbed him f
Georoh K Jesse.
NOMKNCLATUBE OF VEnJCLES (5*^ S. ii. 148,
235.) — Fiy, used as a name for a hired cxirriage, is
an abbreviation of tbe original nauie Fiy-hj-Nvjht^
first adopted J I believe, at Brighton, suid not un-
frequently used in the novels and comedies of a
hundred years ago. P,
Cromwell Crescent*
Although it may be said to be derived from a
proper name^ Fiacre has not a similar origin with
Landau, Stanhope, ami the other names of v eh idea
quoted by Dr. R. S, Cuarnock. The following
note from Littr^, on that subject, may prove
interesting : —
** Vn nommc SnuTage etablit k premier en 1640 les
Toiturea de louAge^ ditcs d^ubord carroasea u cinq boub
(on ne payalt que ctin| boos par heure), nie Bain tMur tin,
dans une gronde maifon nommee 1* Hotel tiftint- Fiacre,
puree (iu*une itnitge de Saint-FLacro y ^tait pendue ; de
i'hotel ie nom iiasoa aujt roitures.'*
Kenbi Gausberok.
Ayr Academy.
The French Word "Yeux" (5"' S. iL 101,
174, 237,)^Dr. Chai«ck &iya, "Ol^Tis must try
again." I should be liappy to do so if only I
knew what 1 am expected to try to do. Your
learned correspondent spoke of the French word
yeur as the only word he knew which had not one
letter in common with its root» viz,, the Latin
vetdm. The two words Have a letter in common,
the vowel u ; but after elimioating tt as of no
account, Dr. Chakce proceeds, and, as it &p{»mis
to me, with perfect Buccess^ to prove that <K^%t^
and ytux stand to one another in the rehition of j
root and branch. Such \yiurA of words being, [
according to Dr. CnASCE, exceedingly mre, I J
ventured to mention a second ejcample in Uia|
French jOHf, tmcinf; it through the —— -^
word gxortio (and I now add the I
diurtius^ and thence to dia. I am ii r j„*
but believing that there is truth in the Go
proverb, ^^Eineblinde Henne findet zuweilen i
Kom,*' I submitted my idea to the readew uf
" N. & Q-," in the hope that one or another of
them would kindly set me right if they V^ehevodj
me wrong. As no one has done so, I decline (po^« I
Dr. Chakce) " to try again ^*; it would be aciv:m *
agere. OcTiA*
P.S. — In Dr. Chance's first article he speak % of I
the singularity of the word y(^tx as arising fwm f
the absence ot' a single letter common to it and ill J
root ocnlux ; it is only in his second article thai 1 1
leurn the real singularity lies in the fact that thert
is no intcTiiwdiatc link between the two, I am no
diviner of Tuen^s tJioughU ; I interpret their thoQcHUi
by their words.
Corpses Entombed in Walls, &c. (5*^S. ill
185, 234, 298, 337.)— Begging Mr. MicKLi-i
THWAiTE^s pardon, I maintain that thiea in this
parage means a grave or vaulf^ and not a (0fi^
It is the Latin equivalent, or more properly the
I direct derivalive, of the Greek O/iKu : And nf
^vJktj Liddeli and Scott say, "a pi
corpses in, a prave, a vault," and as .
Herod, i, 67, j'Esch. Pen. 4(i5, with s-ouie oUku
The place in Herodotus, as your ciiiBsical rcaden
well know, refers to the finding of tbe lK>dyof|
Oreste?, where ^»jKT/==the vault vr grnve, is clcadyrf
distinguished from o\>p^«— (c (i8j the co^t isj
which the remains were found. iE<Lhylu» uiefj
the word in precisely the same sense '— ^
**'i} TTcitSeS *EXA>Jv(iJt', 4T€, cAfu^cpoiVf S<—
(?>;««« Tc Trpoyovm'."* " On, dona of the Grftskfii
free— the tombs of your ancestors."
Bede is speaking of a translfltion. and we ha^ |
no warrant from his words for assuming that the I
bones of these two individuals were removed from I
the respectiye coffins in which they were fi-istj
interred into one other with a ** wall " within it J
to keep the remains apart. I feel sure the case iS|
aa I have put it. Edmuxd Tew, MX
In one of the walls of Purton Chnrch, VH^ '
lately restored, a skeleton waa found.
Mr, Disraelis Exprkssiok ok "Fl^ - ^
JIBES, AND jeers" (5**^ S. ii. 108, 234
Prologue to the first book of Oargantua, ium'ii«j^
deprecates its being supposed, an might be hf
»• 8. IL Rot. 14, 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
399
some of kU readers, thiit his work wns not the real
expreMion of hi» mind, hut merely " mocqueries,
fo&leties et menteric^s joyeuses.'' May not an
bo of this have been in the thoughts of Mr.
smell when he uttered the caustic remarks to
ch F. S. refers 1 Habelais aayB : — *' Vous jugez
rop focilemeot n'estre au dedans tniict^' que
inocqiierteSt folateriea et nienterie^ joy eases," How
is ihifl tmnalateil by Sir T. Urqnhart ?
C. T. Rahagr
The Rev. Thomas Gabb (5«> S. ii. 249, 333),
I the author of Fini4 Pi/rarnu/w, &c., whom I can
[just remember* was the Roman Catholic priest at
^^orkscp, NottR. H*> was a studioua man, kindly
Iftiid chiixiUiblc, and died at the age of seventy-five
or upwanda, universally esteemed and re-
i, April, 1B17. He waa buried, according
hi« own express desire, in the churchyard of
J'Worksop. where a tombstone still renmina com-
poTTvting him. J. S.
hcnATJ. Banik (4*'* S. xl 134 ; 5^ S. ii, 254.)
-In a letter from Michael Banini, dated 18th
ary, 1874, in my possession, the following
I occurs : —
^T IhAre for the prcf ent taken up my residence at the
above AiddrciA. anJ will remain here until May. 1 expect
Ifo teUle fiti&ily ill eonie cottage near the lea, for which
^ BCD on the IrWk out* vrbcrc I will renmin until it plcaiws
||Cod to snmriton Tiie awny* This tuiumoDB canikot he
^litont I Trill, if I lire 00 ionst have reached my
dyptitieth year the lit of Mny next.'*
Thia will give OLrHAtt Hamrt satisfactory
bvldence aa to the age of Michael Banim,
R, J. G.
In the ttccmint of his life in the Imperial Dtc-
fiversal Bwgraphjf^ it is sL^ted that
m waa bom in August, 1796, in
Kill This agrees with the statement of
Ol! :-t, making him just seventy-eight
at thf' tiiii^' ^ 1 y ' ; He was the eldest aon
nf his father, r John, who was born on
the 3ni of Apr n, id-, iieing the second.
P. A, Edwajujs,
NOTES ON BOOKS, kc.
Cr.
Ir
On
I
divided into Sfci*oni adapted to tKf
!fi of LiMWiu 0/ 18T1, (Cambridj^e,
the Nitw L*etionar^.' Letter to tht
/>,/>.» Prolocutor of ikt Launrr
E\iUJ* o/ lU- CijHmrahan of CanterlnAry. By Chr.
Wordtworth. t>,l>,. lli«hop of Lincoln. (Itivlngtont.}
Ownro lo the dl " " ' ' looi book*, of which the
Old aad NewTc :'0»ed,into chaptemt— an
crma^ement* n worth r«iniri(U lu, not
alder titmii the ihtrit:foUi cenLurr, — Rreat diffical^M are
»i|»«itnccd* l»<?th by clergy Rfld Uity, in accustoming
themielTea to the adoption of the New Lection&ry. Tliai
theae difficulties are of no mean order is apparent to
anv one who will run bia eye over the New Calendar. In
order, th«n, to mininiixe these. The Leeticnary BibU has
been iiaued, and wo must say that, to tu, it reenu tbe
8vndice of the Camhfidgt'Unlveniity Pre$e havethorouRhly
eitected their object. Tbe Biblo now issued, in which is
aho included the Apocrvjibaj, h pa^^ed through oat, so
that in the Calendar prefixed, not only is the appointed
lesson for tbe day giren^ bi3t &)ao the page on which it may
be found. Added to thcie advantages, a reference
in the margin of tbe pagCt at tbe commencement of the
li^Bson, refers to a foot-note tbut states the day for
which the lesson is appointed. It will thus be seen that,
by the adoption of most simple means, tbe reader is
doubly assured. It only remains to say that tbe type it
excellent.
Tbe Bishop of Lincoln urges that advanta^ should
be taken of the Koyal Letters of Business, dat«d
6th July, 1874, issued to the ConTocations of both pro-
vinces, to revise the New f.>ectionary. He remarks 00
whut be calls its ''blemishes" under three headin|r«:
** Moral Grounds," '* Historical and Prophetical," " Mis-
cellaneoufl,^' Under the last two, much is said in which
many will be found to concur with the teamed writer.
It i» generally understood that, before publication, the
New Lectioiiary «&» submitted to the scrutiny of tbe
Theological Professors at the Universities and certain
other learned diTinet; that Bt«bop WordsDiortb was
not amongst the latter we are forced to infer, with
regret, seeing that many of the " hlemishea ** now
pointed out might otherwise have been remedied, had
nii great Biblical and scholarly knowledge been taken
advantage of. We think, however, that few will concur
with the Biihop'a argument on ** moral in*oiinds,** " It
IS to be feared." says Dr. Wordsworth, ** that there are
many persons in the present age who prudishly affect a
modest n^luctance to hear what they aro not asbojued
unbluahingly to do. But ought the Church of God to
minister to this spurious ehamer* It wOl be nnder*
stood that the Bishop objects to the present omission
of certain we 11- known chapters in the Old Testament,
Tbe letter deserves, and will doubtlees receive, carefnl
and thoughtful reading.
Library of Spiritual Wcrki for Kngliih Capita. — Of
the Imitation fyf Chrint, In Four Books, By Thomas A
Kemptf, A >ew Tramlatton, (Rivrngtons. )
By far the prettiest edition of this admirable work that
we have seen. It is fit reading, not only for English
Catholics, but for all men who can understand it.
There is not much dogma of religion in it, none at all of
the dogma of science. Its wisdom is in some of its
simplest maxims, such as "I would rather feel com*
pnnctiori than know how to define it."
Comhtll Magatint, November. (Smith k Elder.)
Iw one of those papers on literature and litemry persons
for which this periodical is becoming distinguitbed.— s
paper of much interest on "The Wartous,"— we find a
few words to which we may direct the attention of the
searchers after parallel passages, of which *' N. k Q.**
affords so many examples : — •* It is comnaratively easy
to multiply parallel passages and to show how far a great
writer has gleaned, or appears to have gleaned, from his
predecessors; but vuch lubour is seldom siitisfactory,
since it seems to detract from its originalitT, while it
exhibits the actiteness and comprehensive knowledge
of tV ntator. We should be slow to accuse any
ill;; t of plagiaHKm. If he borrow thoughts,
he V to ennoble them, and the rough ore, as ii
pasibt £ tliK'Ugh his handf, is changed into a piece of ex^
quiiite workmanship."
400
NOTES AND QUER
MacmiUanU Maff0isine, ^^OTemb«r. (MAcmillmn & Co,)
Thb loTen of folk'loi'© will find SfvmctbLntf e«t»«siiiJIy to
their tuste in " The 01de«t Fniry T*ie in the World/* lui
Egyptian «torT, the oni^al of which is on a pftpyruji
DfOw in the ^ritUb Muicum. This curious legend wiu
Invented lor the amaidinent of PiincQ Seti Maiuphtu^
ion of Fhuraoh BameMS, who reigned B.c. 1400 >earf.
Such of our re«deri» u haT.o taken ihtereit in the die-
oiuston tti "X. k Q." on the " Double Genitive,*' wiU
perute with increused interest an article wbich hnf
grown out of it, — " An Unnamed Habit of Langiiage/'
It giveg a notiible example of *' cumulation " in the
wora " Lemuren." The Wt sy liable of tlite word, ac-
cordini; to Mr. Itaac Taylor, is the Liitin §ti^n of
plurality adde*l to **cr,'' iu equivalent plural Mgn m old
EtruBcan, loaring ** Lem " as the root or the word.
Ttmplt Bar. November. (Bentley ^ Son.)
Among the many good things in thi« number, we make a
note with reference to a ptwm, of which a copy it now
rare :— " Doctor Jo«ph Beaumont, Manter of Pcterhouae,
Cambridge ^ . . wrote an astounding poem, in twenty-
four caittoe, called Pit/che ; or. Lorn/ i/^v<tfry,di«p laving
the Intercounw between Christ and the 8ouL Dr. Beau-
mont moet liaTC written far more than his cousin, the
genius Francia. The Doctor publbhed four additional
€«nto« of JPtycke before he died.*'
ROTAL ARCHJEOIjOOICAL iNaTITXTTlL — Ifov. 6. — Sir
6. D. Scott, Bart.r in the chair— This was the opening
meeting rf the new Sewion, and the Chainnckii spoke at
some length upon the sabject, and al Indeed Uy the grcttt
iucoen of tb<! Ripon Met'ting, and the rvcent pre-enta-
tion of a Gold Chain of Office to the iMayor ot Exeter,
One of the features of the coming Session is to be an
exhibition of Municipal Chains of Office. Memoirs on
" Re< cut DtBooverififf at CHrtiarvctn Caatte/* by Sir L. Tur-
ner, and " On an Inaertption in St. Chad's Church, Staf*
iotdf'* by J. Hewitt« were read. The ohj^'tte exhibited
comprised — Rings recently found at Fountains Abbey,
by the MsrquoM of Ripon * Portion of Calei*diir, a.d.
litis, br the Ctinpter of Lincoln; NotNrinl In«trument
of Sir W, biijciair, AD. 1554, by Mr. Wonif; a pair of
Moorish spurs, and Per^inn belt-clasp, inlaid with gold
and -ilver. by Mr. H* ndorson \ Photogruphi* of fjottory
found ttt Aahill, ani bronze statuette found at Strcibam^
Norfolk, by the Rev. C. R. Manning ; Roman and other
lamps, 3tc., by Mrs. H. J, GwUt^ atid two small mediM^ml
pots, by Mr. Page.
The Thames: St. Paul's ok Lambeth (fi<^8. iL 367^
— We have to thunk numerous correspondents for replies
to this query. The Rkv. J. Picki-ohd eays:— "The
epigram inquired for by Mn. Walfohi^ is as fi>llows :—
** As i^hi-rlock at Temple was taking a boat,
The Watermiin aeked him which way he would float;
Which way* quoth the Doctor, you fool, %vith the
ftream,
To Panra or to Lambeth 'twas all one to him."
Mr, P. J. F. Oahtilloh states that the epigram la
quoted by Dr. St<>cker in hie note on Jiti>iin.al, iv. 89.
H. P. D. remarkfi, that " the 8herlocks, fatht-r and
son, were succcisi^ively .Muicrs of the Tem]«le. It h
doubtful to which of them the epigram refers. Both
were satiriced for their readincaa to * AiUkt with the
atiream.' I have not succireded in discovering the
author of the epigram. Tom Brown wr(>te a satirical
one on the elder Sherlock, and it is not at all improbable
that he alao wrote the one it <|>icstion. Au e(>igram
reflecting on the conduct of ti ■ locks, for their
rendincjis to adopt the winuiii iren in Noble'a
Continuation of Granger*! L^vw^y'i"'^^^^^- Uviory, 180tJ»
i 91,"
Jamk9 Patrtuion, the Scottiiih anliqti%riaii writer,
man who ha« dmc no^i] work in hi* tini-.
numerous public • -ill known
ciated, is laid a»i: vais. An i
spoiident write* inc, - -■ ■-
move from hit chair,
make hi* mark." Ms
children. Some vigor'
failed to obtain him
Itito Premier, and now .i.. ;^ .. ...
v^ant. Permit me to make »n :*i
literary vetomn. Any CJiitribui:
behalf will reach liis family iu tiue cMir^tj.
CiiAr.[.F£ RfKiEjE^^ U^D.J
Grampian Lodge, Forett Ilill. SE.
w\M\
^ott(r€ to Carrr^iioittrcnti*
Pru'T CouscfL JnioMrNT : Ltt rit-ti r. VI
i5''' 8. ii, 128, 157, 176. '21
Tkxpi^ar, who thinks, as we !
en>ui(h of this contro vera y, lu-.c .....
fully diii^enting from Me PiCRKkiXG's " i
the tumiiiing'Up of a judge at Nisi P'i
tendered to Her M^etty by the T,
the Trivy Council. *• That Privy '
' commonly the work of one or tn _ , .
five laymen/ is an interesting juridical fact, ot^ w|
fancy most of my learned frieudjt are ignoraoU'*
M. T*
Layoauma(" Parallel Paasages/' 5»* S. H. 815)
ferred to BihU TrniAt vtkA ^' ' *^ ' •
hshed by Uodder & Stoogl
worth's work On, ShaJbf^tat
the BiJbiet Loodoti, 1$<}4. A eiuu! a (m^Mitti, uiv* !Au
T. Macojutb, 18 found in //<ary T/., Kii^t Part, i«l i*,
«c. 1:—
" 'Tis much when iceptres are in children** liand^
But more when envy hrocdi unkind divisioti ;
Then comes the ruin, there begin a confu6U>a*'*
W. W. — We are much obliged to oar cnrrr^ondcnl Uf
his kind and genial note on ** Po' Vi u]
he look at a paragraph <page 39y i^-t
iu a notice of the November nuu....^. .. .^ ...... xid
A. S, — Reference is made to Sir Alcx4nd«rSchorab«*f*l
MS. ode to Captain Cook, *' K. k Q.." 3"* S. v. «0i <
correspondent P. 8. Cart there my» that ihi^ ode
then in his posaesaion.
A. L, Matmiw.— We will do our be«t to gntltf jn.
X 0. H. (Rome), p. 352.— A correspondwit wialiii
place himMlf in communication with you.
J. T. (^PocklVnu'ton),— She lived tn Bohemia
arm ur is m the Zeughaua at Vienna,
H. G. (Ayr) was unayoidabiy deferred.
EartATrM.— P. 376, 5'^ 8. a, f«r '^ a* I believe/
tt4 h4 btlievtf.
NOTICS.
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Pubtifthcr *•— at the Office, 20, Wellington Street
London, W.C.
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ES AND QUERIES.
401
UK itATCTtDA F. ifO VKMBSB ^ VSTL
)i«|>«i« York 8tn?et, &t. Jnute^'t ^naftr«, «\W—
fcflpfwm'i Wiklk— BuiUfi and Getirito TlmiiiAon
JMiAlf of L«n(ui«tiife — Dill IfjvtUU div »l
no.
mk-—
^— Tlie
r.'
;:a,40s>.
EooK ' V Mrs. S^^rTKt, ^c . 409 -The Pl»ht
M«rj liu-nnetdcs, 410— M&dame Rt^lanrl; 4U
•■ ^" WilLe w«s a Wftnton W«g," 412-
r" ADd "Madjunt"— E«itmioator, 41 »
I If* — Floldtog'i PmvpTb? — RednnW,
■ -New Kaadir "
'OJif And Duij.
I. %fi9 — ** Bonni'' A ntiiv L'vui ir —
-Sir Ffmncl* Swift, iW -Pe<!uU:ir
',^0 , — Herring ( ou ati d r — A n Old
1 M I lua," A:c — Shikdilonsiit«—
n^lsh Quutity, 417—Johrl dd
ig— J. T, Sottm— "The liutt*r-
: vrd— *' Lnetu » non Lncemdo"—
VrmK or Bir FrancLi Drake— Hie
itdc, 4ia
«*4e.
^M AUD DEATH OP THOMAS, LORD
LYTTBLTON,
fth of Xov**inber, 1779, Thomas, Lord
r of the **j(reat and
iddenly at hia couutry
HI. jj:ii;t«^ nv;ir Jipsom. He ioheritcd
lis fnthof's ability, but none of hi»
An ill *ivgu late d life brought bim to
Id in body but young in ycai^, at the
-, the monthly periodicals, luid
' '^''Ti^f^r, make record of his
ly. Nothing is mentioned
i"ndin;:^Mt which took it out
rituriil order of things. Contemporary
go a little further. They chronicle
ocd lis u remarkable occurrence,
tuarkable man— of one who bad
J by tjtbrtustive anticipations, and who
ort ^'ar^r lost all by denying himself
is after hiij death, Hortice Wal-
on to the ettect that Lyttelton
on Thursday that he shouM die in
: that ho had supped plcnti fully on
■ ■ i»a the 8;n. ■' . I " - '"nt;
'. went to n
s uu'j. ifl one niiuuu-^ aiLtn Liie .i.rnval
Bt expired."
On Deciiuiber 0th, Mrs. Bckny» writing, from
St* James's Place, to her niece, Mr*, t'ort, describes
the dream, " .'jeeing a bird turned into a \romaa,
who gare him warning of his apprii- ' • - nd.'*
She adda a ** hearty dinner'' to Wn.' [►er
of fifh and venison, and she refers to L. ^ .,.,.. .^j's
*' tkw of spirits,'* aft^r which (she h^js) he ** com-
plained of a pain in \m stomach, which htstcd but
n little while Ijefore he expired at once." Mrs.
Dtdany namesi two Mi?s Amphletta aa being his
companions.
On a Saturday iu June, 1784, Dr, Johnson, Boa*
well, Herbert Croft, and Henderson were taking
tea together in the rooms of Dr. Adams at Oxford.
Bosweil mad<s some reference to *^' Lord Ly ttelton'a
viaion " (it had grown to something more than a
mere dream), " the prediction of the time of his
death, with its exact fulftlraent." — " It is the mo»t
dinary thing," said Johnson, "which has
i*h1 in my day. 1 heard it with my own
'.n- nrjm his uncle, Lord We^tcote. I am so ghvd
to hear every evidence of the spiritual world, that
I am willing to believe it*" This was not a wise
i^mark coming from such a philosopher, and Dr.
Adams very well observed, " You have evidence
enough ; good evidence, which needs not :^uch
iiupport." — " I Tike to have more ! " was Johason^s
rather silly rejoinder.
The Lord Westcote named by John son was a
Peer of Lreland, brother of George, the tir&t Lord
Lvttelton. He was created Lord Lyttelton of
Fmnkley in 17J>4. On February 13th, 1790, Lord
Westcote drew up an account of the dream and
death of his nephew, founded on the testimony of
ear and eye witneaaesof Lord L}! tei ton scon vena-
tion, and of his decease. Thii=i was the account, no
doubt, which Johnson heard from Lord Weatcotc's
own lips. It is the one which i.* be«t known, and
has been widely accept^?d. The following is a copy
of the document, whir' 1 ' - r f, we believe, been
in print before. For j f o place thia (and
the subsequent docuiiM_M> , i^Une the readers of
" N, <& Q,," we are indebted to the great kindness
of the present Lord Lyttelton, who is a valuable
and much-honoured contributor to these columns :
"Rrmakkjibls PftEAM OF TnoMAs LoRD Lttteltdw,
" On Tburadiiy, the 25tb of XoTombcr* 1779* ThoniM
Lord LytteltAn/when he carrn^ " ^ ' '- * i > . ,| to
M" Flood, Wife of Frederick i ^g-
doni of Ireland, h to the tin ubo
were lodged in hiBHoaaein Hillistrcct^ Luhduiu (whurehe
tben aUo was), that he bad had an exiraordiaary Dream
the night before : he said he thou^'bt be wm in ft Roam
which a Bird flew into, which »ppt!»irauc^ was •uddcnly
changed into that of a Woman dre^'d in nhite* who bftd«
him prepare tfl Die ; to which he answci *d» I h^jp« not
■ooa, not In two Months: She replied^ Yes. in three
Davft. He said he did r*'-^ r..n, t. retrard it, becaaiie he
cou'd in some measure a. ' for th»t n few dayi
before he had been with [■ <, when a Rohin Red-
breaat fiew into her Roorn. When he had dressM him-
fielf that day to go to the House of Lordi, he wJL'l^lM.
tliougUt be did not look &§ if ho was lik«l^ to Die : In
tbe Evening of the folIowiD); Day, being Friday, he told
the oldcit Mis8 ArophJctt that she looked melHTicholj ;
but, *aid he, you are fooUsh and fcarfall, I haTo liTcd
two Dayn, anu, God willing^ I will lire out the third.
On the morning of Saturday he tdd the same Ludies
that he waa very well, and believed he skotCd lill the
Gh<fgt, Some houra iiftcrwarda ho went with them, M'
Fort^-ftcuo & Captain Wolsclcy, to Pitt Place, at Ep*om ;
wtthdrow to hifi bed chamber soi-n afwr elcTcn o*Clock
at tiigb^ talked cbfarfully to hij Senraijt, & jmrtictilarly
ioqaired of him what care had been taken to proride
|*ood Roles for hii breakfjist the next morning ; 8tep4
into Bed with lus Waietcoat on^ and as his Servant wa«
pulling it off, put bia hi^nd to hi« side, sauk back, and
immediately expired without a Groan, he ate a f^ood
Dinner after hia itrriViil ut Pitt Place that day» took an
egg for his i<uppcT, and did not seem to be at all out of
Order, except that while be wai eating hU Soup at Din-
ner he had a ri^int; in his Throaty a Thin^ wnicb had
often bappend to hhn before, & which obliged hiui to
■|iit iomo cf it out. hia Physician, D' Fothcrgill, told
me Lord Lyttelton bad^ in the tummer preceding, a bad
pain in his side : Jc be jud>zed that some fzreat Veasel in
the port where he bad fett the Pain gave way, & to that^
he cnnjecttired, hi* Death wi*8 oweing. His DcclarHtion
of hia Dream, and hia Expreasumj ubove tnentinn*d,
consequential thereunto, were, upon a close inquiry,
averted to me to have been ro, by i\r» Flood, the eldest
Miss Amphlctt, Captain Wo!*eley, & hi* Valet dc
Cbaaibre Faulkner, who di'c«ii*d htm on the Thursday,
and tbe manner of hia Death was related to me by
William Stuckey, in tlie preBcnco of M' Fortetcue and
Captain >VoIaeley, Stuckey being lh« S^nraut who at-
tended him in hi§ Bed Chamber, and iu wboso Arms be
died. WtSTCOTK.
" Pcbraary the 13'\ 1780.'*
In the above dociiruentj Lord Lyttolton accounts
for bis dream, find Dn Fothergiil, to a certain
exteot, for his death ; while the tish and venbon
supper diminislies to nn e^fTj and we fitid three
instead of tvvo Miss Ampblett^. This increase
mny bo recoDcited with Mrs. Delanyg account that
Lord LytteltoD, on the Saturday, took down with
hijn, from London to Pitt Place, *' the two
miserable pjirk " (he had carried ofi' both from their
mother, a lady of whom he had been the gueat, and
who died broken-hearted) *^and another woman
l)ebiiiging to Ids society »" Walpole siiys that the
noble Lord's comptinions were " fouf virginB from
the Strand."
But here ia a witness ; the Mr, Fortcacue (after-
wtudsf Lord Fortescue) mentioned hy Lord West-
cot-e, who (through hb &on) gives a difierent com-
plexion to the whole atoiy, and who knows no-
thing of dream, vision, or revelry. The following
document la in the handwriting of Sarah» the late
Dowager Liidy Lyttelton, a daughter of the second
Earl Spencer : —
** M' George Porteacue called upon me one day in town,
& in a conversation on the subject of an article in the
OuarUriy (f ) R^viiv^ which ascribes the authorahip of
Junius to Tbo' L** Ljttelton, he told me, that he bad
often heard from hii Father L'' Fortescue, some details
of the death of ThoniaaL'* Lyttelton, which muatbe true,
k are tuther curious. He said that L'', then W, For-
tescue WW IQ London on the morning of , „ 17 and went to
see L'' L, bis first cousin, who was then ai»o lit toiruj
had on the day t*eforc made a fioc speech in lli
\/\ He found him in Ikd. tho* not Ul;
rallying him for it, L" L. said : * well, if yn \
little in the next room, I t?II1 get up .*: /
He did «o» k the two young men wr
street*. In the cour*c of the valk:
church yard of S' James's Church; aiid L' L, j»o
to the grarefitoneg, raid : ' novr took at nil tlie Tatf
fellows, they die in thetr youth ; at five II Ihii
YOU k I, who are gentlemen, <>hall live to a goodj
The walk ended by their getting into a c-:ir
driving together to L*" L.'b house at Ki
party of hia friends. They dinod cli
ftion wa9 moile to any remarkiible t-
Evening, h'^ Lyttelton withdrew ^3 In lii
M' Fortescue, who so far from hari i
curiosity on his mind respecting I'- -. t
the fire in the drawing room with I > t t i r* iin: fca^l
and dropped asleep. He was tol-vlI by L Li lei
rushing into the room and saying * My Lord U (tjiV
He run upstairs and foutid that alt ^!)<f over. liJ^f
vant said that he had got into bed > ^ X
usual medicine, a dose of rhubarb. Fi \\
he desired the servt. to mix it again.
hand, the man began to mix it with a tooth pick ila
on the (able* ' Dirty fellow ! ' «iid L * L., * ^a dow
fetL-h a fpoon/ H^? ' ■ ' rtiing to I
room fourid his ma baek ot tkl
pillow, & in tbe Inst rt heofilj
then, nor lorforno duyij lilter, t*f tbt? dreaTxi op
diction of his denth, ^ htcb Af Fortefcue i
thertffore wholly to diBbelieve.
The next witness relates a circnmstaBoe
makes of the dream a natural •
introducers other giiests at Pitt FJ
of whom we have already heard, hmj ^ua
document wius addressed to the preaeall
Lyttklton, in September, 1860, by Sir
Neave : —
"In 18-28, Mr, Taylor of Worcestr ^ ' .^ Eff
who was then above eighty years of if, jl
residing at Pit PI nee, that he was in
during the year 177i*, and heard parti
and death of Lord Lyttelton from
visiting at Pit Place at the time ot i^oxn l./
death.
'* Lord Lyttelton had come to Pit Place in » ♦«
carious irate, and wa« ordered not t
(jcentlest exercise. Walking in the '
Lady Afflickand two Mi?^r i«ii.t.. , j, ^ , ..^^,5,^
an orange tree close to t 1 L aticmptaJ i#
catch it; but foitiag, and )> lnt!>ythef
said he would catch it if it v.
^cceeded putting himself in a ;; 1
He gHve the bird to Lady Afliick. ,. u . » ,1
it in her hand.
*' Lord Lyttelton became fo ill n.r\t} fcTcn=^h tb^th^jn
off to London for advice to a hfn hi\
di'lirium he in>agined that a J I ttil
ban J diawinj^ hif curtain told b.i..
" Dreams being the QalamaUa of v
needed no ghost to fix such an inipr
of a sick man, and tbi? mnj bf - " y j
natural agency thus far. As i
moment indicated byan Appariu
the Clock by hi« friends— From tbe 1
companions in the house at the time
the Italian Painter, his informant, Mr, J Viji r r iriJ
fied as to its being a fable invented to nijBlUy iW }
5» 8. IL Xov. 21, 7*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
403
«i tlie Achial etrcamsi&aec§ Attending hia death wer« bs
folio vn ;—
•* Btuig in bed cppo«itc a cLimnej pjece with a Mirror
lie defitred a v&let to give him some Medicine
* on the chimney piece, Skeing htm mixing
.. • .M^h Rruiih, LorJ Lyttelton raised himself up
Ik r I'Ut he wns eo weak that hii hea<l sunk
fbel' w on to h is chest, & he gapped for hreuth.
Hi* V ih.t. in tiad of relieving him, in bi§ fright left the
roQlo, And death cnfued before assistance oouhi be given.
** DiOUy ^'BAVE.
•* Mr» Ti»ylf»r of Worcester Park told me the imnjes of
the party in (ho houee. I only recollect that M' Michuel
Anjfrlj Taylor wai one of them. He named that L** L-
bai become poiMtKtt of Pit Place in payment of a debt
of bofigr/'
In the above letter the dreani is removed from
Hin ^*- • '0 Bruton Street. The Rev. Bouchier
W in his Ajypdriiioirs^ a Narrative of
Ffi''% .*-.-r . v.^ tbnt the wamiog lady of the dream
WA« Mra. Amphk'tt heraell fie reports the con-
TcinntioQ na m Lord Weatcote's record ; bat in that
Ijiren in Nru«h'si irorcfMershirCj it ia sitid that Lord
Lyttelton vainly tried to address the figure. Mr*
SAvilts then refers to » written aocount of wbut
took phwe in the house on that fatal night, by
Mr. Kus«eU| organ is t from Guildford More of
thi« geotleinan, and of the singular character of
hi« testimony, will be found in the next document,
which ia in the handwriting of Mary Austen
Leigh; —
•' AccotKT OF TUB 2'' L' Ltttblton*9 Dkatu.
** It ii welt known that the 2*' L' Ljtt«lton had a
^resm. ur aaw an apparitiun of a lady who warned him
^' - 1 ' ' erfcnin night at 12 o'clock. A party
• '■y a^embled in the evening to cheer
V in the houee wiis secretly put on
h^ ; when 12 o'clock apparently arrtired,
mud still alive, the prediction appeared
to h I.
count waa fiiven by Mr. Russel, a
mti iunt, Mr*. B. Lefroy, who wrote it
dov. :—' L'' Lytteltou occJisionally resided at
ft I i.ar Ep*om, where Mr. llu-sissel wm in the
Kaf ling him, and performing for his amuje-
mcr : receired a eumojons for one particular
€»tr ;.u3»cl rode to EoiftTO, and, putting up his
horiC iti a I law ihcrc, walked to L'' Lyttelttm « house,
Ou en t ring the courtyart! he was itruck with the
f.M.LU t ..r --4r.i .^-a >vhich filled it. C'n reaching the
t-id to an apartment in which wai a
. rii scrred as an anteroom io the
' j; doorji between the two apart'
Lrid as he sat at the PiaTiorori«,
- J . J thfct the drawiTigroom con-
risillifd a hir^G party* almost entirely con^igting (»f gen-
P tlem*T>. Mr. Rn"M?l h«id not plaved long when he wa»i
:y I he jjljojii ufl«r JiU , there will be
'kit, t fancy/ and other wordfl to ihnt
" ' ! ' 1/ Lyttelton cime from th«
to Mr, Ruttel for the in*
.1.^ ij \>y al! thU nolfie* adding
at depression
n asembled
^iMipatin^ bb
melancholy. Many times during the course of the
evening these shout* and exdamutions w -re heard.
'* Mr. Rufiicl w»s at last gireo to understand that he
might finish. L'' Lyttekou came to him, and, having
paid htm handsomely for his perform:mce» desired him
to take hii supper in the house. This Mr. Kussol
declined, but said tbat, with his Lordship's JcaTe, be
would take a gJaaa of wine, and for this purpose he
w^ step into the bullcr'fl pantry as he went out He did
sOj and while drinkini; tlie vvine» L'* Lyttelton came into
the pantry, and sc ft tin jj himself on the platecbest, com*
plained to the butler of feelin;; very unweN^ snd in great
ptiin* The butler proposed mixing him a gUe^of brnndy
and rhubnrb, and L^ Lyttelton agreeing to it, Mr. Russel
wished hh Lordship a good night^and took learo of hioi.
On bia way through the offic*s» one of the gardeners
whom ho happened to meet lighted hira out, and was
miikint; some observation to him on the uproar which
had been so often heard during the evening, wheui just
as they reached the outer door, a moat dreadful scream
was heard from the interior of the house. * And this,'
said the gardener^ 'is worse tban nil the rest.'
"Mr. Rufisel wished him good night. and stopping only
a few minutes at a lady's house in Epsom to delirer a
mcsioge, proceeded to the Inn where he had left his
horde. Just as hn reached the Inn door, be hoard some
one exclaiming ' I roust haye a horw to ride to London
immediatcty, for my Lord is dead/ On looking at the
person who Hpoke^ Mr. Rua«el perceived ii to be the
gardener who liad lighted htm >.ut of the house. lie now
informed liim that J/ Lyttelton liad fallen oET the plate-
chest speechless, anddleaas he was being carried upstairs.
"Maut a. Avstkn Leigh."
Mr. Savile quotes Mr. RuaselFa " Narrative " to
a quite dilierent elfecfc. Lord Lyttel ton's valet, he
saye, " came down to fetch some mint water . . .
leaving his Lordship alone. At that moment the
clock of the Pitrisb Church, which of course had not
been tampered with, began slowly to strike the true
midnight hour. The valet returned to hia niaater
and called out loudly, the company ran upstairs
and found his Lordship had fidleu dead.'*
It ia quite impossible to reconcile Mr. Hussell's
account with that of Mr. (afterwards Lird) For-
tescue. They differ "point blank" in eveiything,
except that Lord Lyttelton really died on that
night. But he ia satd to have done something
more. What that is supposed to have been ia told
in the following paper, which has been in print
before, but which k well worth being printed
again : —
"AcoouKT or Loup Ltttklton's ArpiARANCE to 3{it.
iilL^ PfcTKa AKDJIBWS, jroHMKBLT
M.P. FOH BfiWPLKT.
(Extracted from Mr Plumer Ward's Illuttrathn^ o/
Unman L>ju vol. L p. 165.)
*' I had oftem heard much, and read much, of Lord
Lyttcl ton's seeing a ghost before his Death, and of bim-
iclf, as a Ghost, appearing to Mr. Andrevrs; and one
erehini|;, sitting next to that Gentleman, during a panto
in the Dclnites of the House of Commons,, I ventured to
Rfik him whether there was any, and what truth, in the
detailed story so confidently related. Mr. Andrews, as
perhaps I ought to have expected, did not much tlko
Ibe cimversation ; he looked grave and uneasy, and I
Diked pardon for my impertinent curitmt'j\v^\Sf«ittO&S»
he very go^ i»bW¥«d!L3 «b;v^, ^W^^i^^i^Vi^^Vvnx
404
NOTES AND QUERIES
[5^^ 8. II. Kw, 21, 74
fond of, and leiut of idl in such h plncc as thla ; but if
you will come and tltnc with me I vfUl tell y<*u i*ii&t \a
irxkc, ftnd wbttt is false/ I gUdly accepted tbe proposal,
Btid I think iny recollection is perfect us to tbe following
narrative : —
*' Mr. Andrews, in his youth, was tbe boon companion,
f .not to say feltow rake, <if Lord Lytielton, wlio, aa is well
Jmoiirn, WAS a man djBtingui»hfrd fur abilities, but also
for ft profligacy of moral*, which few could equal. With
all this be was remarkable for what n>ay be called un-
usual cowardice in one so determinedly wicked. He
De?er rt-pented, yet could never stifle his conscience.
He never would kltow, yet never could deny„ a world to
come; and ho contemplated, with unceneing terror,
what would probably be bis own state in such a world,
if there was one. Ho was always melancholy with fear,
or mad in defiance ; and probatjly his princiial uiiserv
here was, that with uH his endeaTours he ntvcr could
extingiibh tbe dread of an her«-ufter.
"Be once came down to breakfitst pale with tie agony
be bad suflrered in a Dream, which ut fir^t he would not
reveal. It turned out that for his sins he thought he
was enclofed in a glube of iron, of the dimeniions of tlic
£artb, heated red hot. At that time all the world were
execrating Mrs. Brownrigg, \\ bo wa^ lianged for whippiudt
one of her apprentices, a little cirl, to dcnth. Lota Lyt-
leltOQ hud tlio greatest hatred to her very name ; and to
I Aggravate hi^ puni-hmont, he thought tbis wretch was
ennclosed with bim in the globe of hut iron— an imagi-
nation Fo string could not but be active, inouiriug, rest-
less—uU vkhiih, added to his fears, made him ba,rp in-
coasunlly on (he question of a future life. Qe u«cd often
to diieusa it wiih bin friend Andrewip, to whom he at
lait sftM, * Well ! if I die first, and am allowed, I will
come and infurm you/ Tbis was but a little before his
death. That death was attended with so many mys-
terious reports of gbosts, wuruingST and prophecies,
most of them such entire inrcntions, that 1 shall imt
trouble tbe company with them, but hasten to Mr.
Andrews't part of tbe story,
** • But* (said one of the ladies) * whtn you say " mott
of tkem/^ do you mean that anyone was well founded 1 '
" I can only tell, and indeed undertake no more (re-
plied Mr, St. Lawrence), what 1 learnt from Mr. Andrews
himself, who, I feel sur^, is good authority. It tjr true
that tbe night before Lord Lyttelton died, a flutteriui?
of a Bird was heard, and perhaps a Bird seen on tbo
window curtains. It is not true that Mrs. Humphreys,
or any other departed hndy whom he had s^-duced^ ap-
peared and warned bim of bis end. It w true that he
Jiimself thought he wai lo die at a giTeo hour, and the
clock was put on, in order to deceive bim into comfort.
It ii alM true that he wai found dead with hi£ watch in
his band, at but a few mintttf^:^ ufter the time he men-
tioned as bia lost. But it is ei|iially true, that upon any
great a;;itation, he was subject to a swelling of the
throat which, without immediate aasistance, might kill
bim by strangulation. However, the coiucid'^nce of
event with prophecy was at any rate most remarkable.**
" Andrews was at his house at Dartford when Lord
Lyttelton died at Pitt Place, Epsom, thirty miles off.
Andrews's house was full of company, and he eipectcd
l*ord Lvttelton, whom he had left in his n*«UHl ♦^tate of
health, to join r! ' V ' ' ' ' ; '
Androws hiiii$:cl
day Evening, rt t
L^'igOU, one of hlti g:Ut!»t«', tu do tllc hiutHUlii oC tl(0
fapper table. He admitted th^t when in bed he full
1 Into a feverish f^! - ^ - ' ' ' tivcen eleven aj.d
^iwelrebj somtl ■«. It wa-^ Lord
rccogniied' He also plainly i^ke to ItSsn* vayia|^ *y
was come to tell him alt v^at orcf /
"Tbe «orld said he informed bim Utal then vti
unither state, and bade bim repent, kC-» ke. Ttak
was not so, and I confine myself to the cmAOt mvirk tf
tbis relation :—
" ?Jow it »cc)
play, or what v
having often Di..... ^.^ — - .
had threatened him nith manual cbj
time it occurred. On the prcwnt
this annoyance renewed, be ti
could find, wliich were his sUpi
head. The figure retreated tov •
tt'AicA had no ingtiit <ir *grm, «xc' /
chnmhcr ; and Andrews, very an^y, t
follow it into tlie T
Surprised, he return
searched. Tbe Door
Loid Lyttelton was to be found. He wt»iii(Wii
not alarmed, eo oonTinccd was he thftt it %«
of Lord Lyttelton, who, be Buppo?ed, had arri
ing to his engi»gemtnt, but after he. Ami
retired. He therefore rang for h'u ^errant, a
Lord Lyttelton was not come. Tbe mmut iiid« He
' You may depend upon it,' replied he. otit of liuBisis,.
'lie is Bome>\bere in tbe bouse, for he wa* bere *
and is plaving Eome trick/ But how be oould
into the bed- room, with the Door locked, ^
master and man. Conrinccd, howerer* ibmi
somewhrre in the bonse, Andrews, iir bis tkXip^tn
that no bed should be given him, uiyi' ' ^-
an Inn, or sleep in the stables. Be ^
never appeared again, and Andrewi %
*• It happened that Mrs, Pigou v sla tci -u to
early tbe next morning. What was b<r uitoui^li
having heard the disturbance of ihf* "
hear oq her arrival, about nine -
Lyttelton had died the Ttry night \:
hare been seen ! She immedia'
Dartford with the news: up*
Andrews, quite well, and remu..
that had passed « swooned awav. ily i
etand it, but it i»ftd k mo*t rerlous ti
that, to use hi icssion, 'he was u<-a
man again for
*' Such is tbir _. : . - i Etory, striptof it^? ai-nntuti
and exag(:;eratious ; and for one I own, if i
that this was a real nie*««j?A fmm Tl
certainly 1 am not, I at h : ' ' V
deuce was seen in it ; woi '
you please, and therefore ^
{though that, after all, is tin m mn bat
Providence in a character not t' mi."
It is to be obaened wilL
Peter Andrewa^ tbat bis cor
panion, Reynolds, the drsiiuiUi^t^ wuh with
years, and never heart! from him a voi
phost stor>% till after it had t
Keynolds by another boon con 15
Subsequently, we arc fobl, fle\
confirmed by the party KimiJelf,"
the way, states, in a note to b^^ ^
tbat Lord Lyttelton died in
Andrews repeat tbe circums;
A reference to the X.
how readily Andrews ji
liiui ihe hero of stories? in v
I ^rAva qC truth. According t >
»l!.n.NoT.21,7l4
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405
tta FlUFiftCe,lotheH.
u._.n. .T. ...1.^ Lord
•nition
..j_^ viMiiiaiinica-
)>y the venerable
who was present
tti*Uon :—
*• Sep. 4, 1874.
*' Hj fiiber attached no credit to the Ljttelton Ghoet
jStorr.
I '♦ He tdd me once that he \xna at Pitt Place at the
I tinte that Lord Lyttclton died there ; that tho' in weak
^ hcalCb, Ijord L. wa« in good ppirit*, friviog certainly no
dftitce of hia haTiDji;; rect^ivn ! lonition of an
"f denjiw ; and thnt, on the 5 - death, there
ftj far it« he knew or iieai ^ iItingn9Bs on
liflfd L.*n part to retire to bed, ai d no putting forward of
(l»e clock ; and that it wna not till Bcmc time after the
-■'- '':rit he Itcard of the fetnale apparition having
I to liim (Lr-rd L.) Hie dav and hour of hii
'•-c. My Father, I thSuk, to'ld me that Milea
r*Uf Andrews and anotHer K^ntlenian, whose name I
have forsotteo, wore gUfBts with him at Pitt Ptace at
tJie time, O. M. Fojitebctjr."
In varioiia printed accounts it h stated thiU
Andrews wna jit Pitt Phice, in the course of the
dnv, btJt left, before ni^'ht, for Dartford, thirty
mutH oiT, Mr. Savile rclntcs^ in hia y^arrath'e of
Ftidf, thai ** the party at Pitt Phice were addition-
Ally lunnfi.J }iv receiving intelligenee on the
fol! _ thttt the mother of the Mi«9
Aii'^ jiired in Wnj-wickshire, unknowTi
to toeno, at the very time when she appeared to
Lord LytteUon, on theThiirsduy ni^ht, and warned
him of h'lH coraing doom*'* Bat only two pages
h^oT (v. l^ci\ Mr, Savile s^iy? that Mrs. Cameron
'"iVi married dnngh tor) declared thfit
1 -'. Flood tell the story of the ghost
Andrews d) her mother ! The readers
will probably think that the witness
t reliance can be plnced \h Mr. For-
at the really remarkable fact is that
! which Lord Lyttelton made to
yard, as to vulgar fellows dying
- I tie age at whi< h the peer died that
Perhiips our readers will alfiO think it
' >* tlie three Mi5;s AmpHetts, who
\ ttelton, found very satisfactory
. . i^i their antecedents. Ed.
:^'-
ArAA^
BflAKSPEARIAXA.
T»« HjtaxftS8 8n AKspEARR Prize Essat. —
Tin ' ' T>^cribed for foiinilinj^' a memo rial of
till Mr. Hiirne^R amcunteii to 5<M)^ It
. . . , .^ ■ ^f
itsi for
..iMcof the
\jr\ thi* winner, Mr i\,
, < V.n f^n.l \ ''.- \hr author
of the first prize esRaj. The subject was " On the
Authorship of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Parts of Iltnry
VL, commonly attributed to Shakspeare." The
es?tny is very creditable to the critictd ability of
the writer^ whose conclusion is that Sbakspeore
iiuprctved earlier works in which he had been en-
gni^'ed with Greene and Marlowe, but that he «tiil
left the various parts of Henry FT, not wholly
Shakspeare^a. In judging between Greeners style
and Soakapeare^Sf Mr, Eives detects Greene in
passagei auch as " for to revenge** ** for to yield/*
a form of phraae to which Greene was much ad-
dicted. Mr, Riyes ndds that there ifl but "a
single authentic instance" of the use of such a
form in Shakspeare, nanjely, " Forbid the sea for
to obey the moon" (IVinUr^s TaU, i. 2), But
this is not correct. The King, in HctmUt, says ; —
** There's iomcthin^ in his ioul,
O'er which hia mehmcboly sits on brood;
And I do doubt the hatch and the disclose
Will he iome danger ; which, for to preventi
I have in quick detenuination
Thua set it down.'*
If other examples are known, " N. & Q." will
readily make record of them. Ed.
" Tempest/^ Acrr H^ Sc. 1 (5«» S. ii. 64.)—
Burely " Den " ia right : —
" Speluncam Dido dux et Trojanut eamdem
Ikreniuat."
^mid, Lib, ir.
The Virgilian episode was a favourite with Ixith
paintf rs and poets of the sixteenth and seven t^entli
centuries, and no doubt there was many a "Den"
or ** Spelunctt/* in ProBpero*s Isle*
W. J. Beoeabd Shith,
Temple.
Shakspeahe's Name{5^ S,iL2.) — Fewtarspeare
is doubtless a local sumfime, derived from the
name FdUr or Fewtrrtr, The laat syllable is pro-
bably from the Saxon hurh^ dative byri^, whicn is
liable to corrupt to hurtj, httr^ btrfjpeer^ per^ |>«*r,
peare (conf. the surnamea Conibeare, Shcbbeare),
The most reasonable derivation of ** Shakspeare "
is that from Jacqufjt Pirrr^ ; but the name would
also corrupt from Schtfchs-hurh. The German Btur-
name Schach would seem to be a corruption of
Isaac, Conf. Sach, Sacchi, from Isaac ; Sachs,
SttXj from Isaacs. I suppose we may now expect
a new pamphlet, **Wa3 the divine Williams of
Jewish descent 'M R. S. Charlock.
Oray't Inn.
Thomas W.vL?=^f ■ '* -' -^-"^When
Edward I. was :i f Sicily,
with whom he bun mm* .-u <ii^ j^umu from the
Holy Liin<K why lio to«»k more to heart the death
of hi^ father than that of his *on, his luiswcr wai,
Jicconling to old Thomas WiJsinglmm, —
40G
NOTES AND QUERIES.
l5*g.II.KoT.21,7l.
quotidie muUiplicentur ; Parentum vero mors irrcmcdi-
abilis est, quia nequeuut restaurari."
Sophocles makes Antigone say very much the
same : —
TTocrts fJL€V ttv uoi, KarOavovTO^y oA A09 tJi',
KOL irais OLTT aAAov </>a>To9, ci rods' rjinrkaKov'
/lyjTpos 8" €v*^A8ov Kol Trarpos K€K€vo6ti,Vj
OVK COT* d8€k<l>0S OOTIS aV jSAaCTTOt TTOTC
Each agrees that the loss of a child is preferable,
under circumstances, to the loss of a father or a
brother. Edmund Tew, M.A.
Dbvonshirk Bats. — I do not think it has ever
been noticed in print, that the Devonshire bays
appear to have been named in a series, viz., Chap-
combe, Maiden-comhe, Xm-combe, What-comhe,
i^oftW-combe. This can hardly be an accidental
coincidence. E. H. J.
"Oatb." — I lately heard in Derbyshire, near
Dovedale, this word used to describe a right to
turn out one cow, or four sheep, on a jxisture com-
mon to several proprietors.
A landowner's pheasants, when shot at, flew
across the river into a thicket of bramble and
thorn buslies not on his property. In order to
pursue them, he purchased " a gate " of one of the
joint-owners of the land. Georqe R. Jesse.
Curious EriTAPiis. — In Swansea churchyard : —
" The body underneath this stone is
Of my late husband, Jacob Jonas,
Who, when alive, was an Adonis.
Ah ! wella-day !
O death ! thou spoiler of fair faces,
Why took'st thou him from my embraces 1
How could'st thou mar so many graces 1
Say, tyrant, say."
At Northallerton : —
" Uicjacftf Walter Gunn.
Sometime landlord of tlic Sun —
S'C tran9it gloria mundi f
Ue drank hard upon Friday,
That hein^ a high diy.
Then took to his bed, and died upon Sunday."'
In the churchyard of Hythe : —
" His net old fisher George long drew,
Shoals upon shoals he caught.
Till Death came hauling for his due,
And made poor George his draught.
Death fishes on through various shapes.
In vain it is to fret ;
Nor fish nor fisherman escapes
Death's all-enclosing net."
Fredk. Rule.
Old Novels. — Do any of our friends remember
The Vagabond^ a novel by George Walker \ I read
it at school about fifty years ago. It was a large
unbound volume, like an overgrown pamphlet.
The heroes were Dr. Alogos and Stupeo.
There was another novel, in two volumes.
Modern FhUosopherSf by Miss Eliza Hamilton.
/ read this some years later. Two of the Yietovxiea
were Miss Bridgetina Botherem, who always aoa^t
for Creneral Utility, and the Citizen (Goddess, who
had appeared on the altar of Notre Dame as the
Goddess of Reason.
I think a reprint of these bo<^ might prove a
valuable speculation. When I read Prod Tyndall's
speech at Belfast, I tried to recollect some points
which were not new to me, and I traced them to
my memory of The Vagabond, The whole tbeoir
of the origin of the world is there disconed.
Modern Philosophers is a light and amusing stoiy.
H.
CniMNEY-CLEANER (SwBSP).'— In the procrm
of society not only climbing-boys hare been
abolished, but the ancient name of sweep is to be
swept away. , At the West End, on a barrow begilt
and decorated with the lion and unicorn, I saw, in
golden type, "Chimney-Cleaner" inscribed over
the soot bags. H. C.
[There ivus lately a Ramoneur-Company ; and a few
years ago there was, in Chester, " Augustas Canv,
Chimney-sweeper. '*]
Parliamentary " Fathers." — Perhaps it may
be interesting to note the coincidence that tl^
two Houses of Parliament lost their " fathers " (in
respect of membership, and not in age) on the same
day, Saturday, October lOth, 1874 : the Hoose
of Lords by the death of the Duke of Leinster, who
had been entitled to sit since his majority in the
year 1812, t.e. for 62 years ; the House of Com-
mons by the accession of General Forester to the
Peerage after sitting uninterruptedly for Weulock
since the year 1828.
They are succeeded in their paternal honours by
Lord Gage, who has been entitled to a seat for bat
a few months less than the Duke of Leinster, and
by Mr. Talbot, who has sat without intemiption
for Ghimorganshire since the year 1830.
Although the Duke of Leinster was " father" of
the House of Lords as a House, yet he had not
been a Peer for so long a period as the Marquis
of Tweeddale, who, however, was not entitled to a
scat on his attaining his majority ; and he and the
Earl of Clanwilliam stand in the same relation
with regard to Lord Gage.
Mr. Gladstone bids fiiir to become the " father"
of the House of Commons, as, with the exception
of Mr. Talbot, there is but one member. Lord
Ernest Bruce, who can count a longer ser^'ice.
R. Passinghasi.
St. James's Chapel, York Street, St.
James's Square, London. — In a recent paragniph
in the Continental Herald and Siuiss Times it was
stated that this " ugly ecclesia^ticM edifice " would
have to come down. The history of this chapel
is as follows. It was built for a congregation of
Calvinistic Baptists. It was next a New Jemsalem,
\ ox ^"vi^^^uV^T^gAXL Churchy and for some jeus had
5*ail. Not, 21,7*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
407
I
a crowded congregation to hear the late Rev. J.
Proud, one of the most eloquent men that ever
occupied a pulpit. At Mr. Proud's death it be-
czitue ftgiiin a Baptist chapel. It next passed into
the hands of the Unitarians. Od their leaving it,
it was made a chapel of ease to St. James* s Churchy
and has reniained such to the present date. Aa to
** ecclesiastical " architectuxe, it has. none ; the ex-
terior is exactly after the model of old Dissenting
mecting-houBe?. But the interior is neat and even
elegant, and much superior to many of the pro-
prietary chapels at the west-end of the metropolLs.
A work on Dissenting Chapels (Old and Modern)
wns announced some years ago, but it has never
appeared. James Henry Dixon.
CitACcER Notes. — " In motteleye.'* Prologue^
271. Neither Mr. Morris in the Clarendon Prefix
edition, nor Tyrwhitt gives a note on these words ;
but do they not refer to the Fumptuary laws of
the period, which forbad any but nobles wearing
clothca of one colour throughout ?
•* ToUen thriea." Prologue, 5C2. Where there
woM a mill there wais genendly a bridge, over which
the owner of the mill had the right of levying toll.
These words, then, may either refer to this custom^
still kept up in »ome parts of England, or to the
fee '(** panage "), which was p.aid to the miller by
those whose com he ground. Chaucer represents
his " mellere '* as " Ht<*Ung corn," and levying one
or both of these tolls, ** thries." H. 'C. D.
WldtehaTcn.
<9urrif#.
pfe mmt requett eorre^pondenta desiring iuformation
i oa family maitein of otily pritfttc interest, to affix their
fisoet tod addresses to their «|aeries, in order that the
anfwen may be addresied to them direct.]
Pattt Moon's Walk. — Near Tunbridgc Wells
I there i.s a dark winding lane, called " Patty Moon's
[ Walk/' While in that neighbourhood, a week or
two ago, we made strenuous and oft en- repeated
kcflurts to find out from the tradespeople, from otir
tlandlurd, from eyerybody we had access to, some-
I thing about the Patty Moon after whom this walk
[must have been named j but all to no purpose.
I Nobody knew. One man, indeed, informed us,
[w^ith a lofty smile at our ignorance, that ** the lane
ihad always been called so " ; but, as we pointed
luul, there is no corrobonition of such a statement
I in the Book of Geneuiis. Our mind has ever since
Wen haunted with thoughts and guesses about
[Patty* Waij i^he the vilLtge idiot in by-gone days, or
or unha[»py Patty, who chose this crooked
^jeciude<l laue in which to indulge her dark
unu. JjA some bright munificent Mift?
y called by the pretty name of
^L ion, by the townspeople ? Will
i>ar darkness on this, to ua,
i Mahtix Kayi;.
Burns and Georoe Thomson.— In 1809, a
novel, entitle*! Nuhilia^ vrns published, eontaining
a harsh and calumnious attack upon Thomson for
his fiuppoi^d selfish and illiberal treatment of
Bums. Of this publication, Thomson writes to
Professor Josiah Walker, editor of the ii/e and
Works of Barns ^ Ed in., 18U : —
''In & late anonymous novel, I have been attncked
with much bitterness, and ioca«ed of not endeaToaring
to reiminerate Bums for the songs which he wrote for
my collection, altbofigh there is the clearest evidence
of the contrary, both in the printed correspondence be-
tween tbe Poet and me, and in the public testimony of
Dr. Currie. My assailant, too, without knowing hny-
thing of the matter, stutes that I enrichied myself by
the labours of Burns, and, of course, that my want of
gencroBity uaa me xc usable. '^
Is any tiling known of the author of thia novel 1
Where wji^ it published I The writer would be
grateful for a reading of it, aa he has never been
success ful in meeting with it in any book catalogue
to purchase. Jamks Gibson.
32, Wavertree Road, Liverpool.
The Bailey Family or LANCASurRE, — ^I
possess a highly-treasured copy of the foUawing
work : —
** Man's Chief End To Olorifie God ; or Some Brief
Sermon-Notes On 1 Cor. x. "M. By the RcFerend (tic)
Mr. John Baileyt Sometime Preacher and Prwoner of
Christ at Limerick in Ireland, and now Pastor to the
Church of Christ at Wutertown In New England
Boston : Printed by Samuel Green, and are to be Sold
by Richard Wilkins, Bookseller, near the Town-House.
Anno 16S9." 12mo.
The author wiwi born at Blackburn in 1644, and,
emigrating to Amenea in 1683, became a preacher
at Boston and Watertown. His sermons are com-
mended l>y John Dunton, and he has received
honourable notice in Mather's Magnalia^ but be
h not mentioned by Allibone or Lowndes. He
bad a brother Henry, of Manchester, living in 1688,
when also he alludes to his mother and a ebter
Lydia. There was likewi&e a younger brother,
Tlioma^, who died 1689, aged thirty-five, leaving
deaoendants. Any particulirs of this family will
be veri^ acceptable to John E. Bailry.
Stret'ford, Manchester.
Did Harold die at Hastings? — I have read
in fyoma historical work that there is a tradition
that Harxdd did not die at the Battle of Hastings,
but that, having been nursed secretly, he journeyed
to Palestine as a pilgrim, and after many years
returned to England under the name of Chnatian,
and dwelt first in Shropshire, and afterwards in
Chester, in a cell in the churchyard of St. John,
^' where," says a guide-book, " he was visited by
succeeding novereigns.'' I should like to learn
what authority there is, if any, for the above state-
meat. KEOHAotJS,
** Moment," jts meaniho. — In Jofoi J^ow^^r**
408
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*8.ILN0T.21»74.
pletion of Edwin Drood, I observe the following
instanoes of ** moment " employed in a new sense :
" PoBB&bly the domestic had over-fatigued herself/' &c. ;
" for quite a moment elapsed," kc.—P. 62.
" He heaved a sort or a sigh/' kc, " quia a momtnt
before he said."— P. 69.
** After this angrv stride of the room had continaed
for many moments. ^V. 75.
A moment in these places seems to mean an
interval of some minutes. I have certainly never
seen the word so used before. The expression,
" stride of the room/' with many others in this
volume, suggests anything but an English educa-
tion. In some parts, I have asked myself the
question, " Is this a translation ?" Can any reader
of " N. & Q." tell me who is the author 1
Jabez.
AtheoAum Oiub.
Authors and Quotations Wanted. — Where
is the frequently quoted passage anent "Shak-
speare and the musical glasses " to be found ?
K. K. T.
" Where Lord Conrad shed his blood.''
//; T.
, % ^ n • § J» Yield homage only to etemaUaws."
u) Cd-ekfiOaeS '^to^voi^Jhv oAa.fe. 4 . f. s. .
A poem entitled IncompldenesSy of which the
following is the first verse : —
" Nothing resting on its own completeness
Can have worth or beauty ; but alone
Because it leads and tends to further sweetness,
Fuller, higher, deeper than its own."
" I go my way, thou goest thine,
Manv ways wo wend ;
^ da'
W. A. C.
Many days and many ways
Ending in one end/' kc.
H. W. 0.
"Philanthropist."— The author's name of a
poem so called, commencing thus —
** His life
Was a strife
With his wife," &c.
B. B.
The Pretender in England. — Is there any
historical authority for the episode in Thiickeray's
Esmond of the Pretender's presence in England
at the time of the death of Queen Anne, or was
the incident created by the author ? Kar^^.
"Wink." — In the names of various places, as
Winkleigh, Winkbourne, Winkfield, Winkley, and
Winkton, it will be seen this short syllable occurs.
What is its meaning in the Anglo-Saxon, from
which it is derived \ Jaytee.
Autograph of the Duke of Guise. — In
Aprilj 1870, it was stated that the autograph of
Henn, Duke of Guise, written on a fly-leaf of a
MS. book of Hours which belonged to Queen
Catbenne ofMedicia, was discovert The ^otd&
in the Duke's handwriting were, " All is aznnged
for the 24th,'' &c., Bupposed to refer to tha nuuMacre
of St. Bartholomew. The Pall Mall OaaetU Hmsw
some doubt on it. May I ask if it haa ainoe been
proved authentic or otherwise ? See " N. ^ Q."
4^ S. V. 373. Georob Llotd.
Conpen.
Mart Machell Prince. — In what periodical
recently published is an account of her? She was
Henry's (son of James I.) nurse. I am tcxt
anxious to find out what branch of the MadeQi
she came from, and what her father's Christian
name was. H. A. de Salis.
109, Finboro' Road, South Kensington.
The Grand Jurt.— I happened to take np
this morning How we are Qovemed, by Albany
Fonblanque, jun., 1858. I opened the book ii
page 187, and came upon the following passage:—
" The indictments are laid before the grand jary, which
coQBists usually of thirty persons, selected from amooot
the magistrates and principal gentry in the county, 1^
possess the qualification required of a justice fk the
peace."
I have always understood that the full number
of the grand jury was twenty- three. In the county
where I serve we have never more than that
number, and I think I have heard a high legal
authority say that there was no precedent for swear-
ing more than that number. Will some one tell
me whether Mr. Fonblanque or I am in error]
A Grand Juryman.
" The Letters of Sir Thomas Fitzosborne on seyeril
Subjects. Absentis Pignus Amicitiac.— Mart. The Third
Edition. (An uncopjable cameo.) London : Printed
for A. Dodsley in Pall Mall, mdccl."
I wish to know something of the above book,
which has just come into my possession. There
are in all seventy-four letters. William Wing.
Steeple Aston, Oxford.
[Fitzosborne was a pseudonym; the letters were
written b^ William Mclmoth. Mine editions are recorded
in the British Museum.]
John Littleton. — In the old registers of the
parish church of Kingswinford, Staffonishire,occure
the following entrj' : — " March 17th, 1617. John
Littleton, Gentleman, fi*om Holbech, buryed."
Was this John Littleton a connexion, as I presume
he must have been, of the Stephen Littleton in
whose house at Holbech, Staffordshire, Winter
and others of the Gunpowder Plot were killed ;
and were these Littletons of the family of the
Lyttletons of Hagley or of Hatherton ? Did
Holbech House then belong to the Littletons, and
could any of your readers, through your columns,
supply me with a list of the subsequent owners of
this historical old house ? H. M. T.
Thackeray. — What real occurrence does Tbadc-
^^tay relate in Barry Lyndon as hiq^pening al the
ff»attfc"0T.si,7i.j
NOTES AND QUERn>S.
409
of X. } Wl>f» w:i^ ih:> Indy to wh«"*m he
in tho Iw4i!inin'^ uf Th' Fottr Utorgffy as
ng bern ** ii^kcd in niarringe by liomcr
[Wnlpole?*' GftKYSTEIL.
iiVoi'TAit ' XX0 RocssEAC— I wish to recover
tipoa Voltaire and Ilous^au not in-
lile U* tiome public men of the i>rescnt day.
tAiigbt impious maa Almi^^'bty God to
llio bitter taught woman everything she
ilii not know. G. A. C.
TuKSTEAU, NoaKOLK,— Can any architectural
nrt*L'i'<'!r.'/i-t fTnlun this ]iTioiii.i]<''.L4 A^iiture in the
I ch.«i i the Com-
miici i^ir I'unning
the luii;itb uf ihe eajst wull ; this i« Burmounted by
a platfi)rrn, a Toot or so higher than the table, with
I a gratiug in the centre, nnd the platfonn is gained
1 by Mloue steps. Are there any other instances of
1 a like kind, and, if so, what is it supposed they
I Were U8ed for ? A. B. C.
TnoMAa SirrroH.— In 1677, Eerne published
T;,' U'..ti>r„ nf th, il,nr^t^rhou8f, in which he
tton, died at the age
&ycT 12, 161L I am
of that ThomfLs t5Utton wm buried at
Wji ' i ^ey, e-^pccially so as I find an entry
I in the p;irif»h register to the etl'ect that " Thomas
Button, gent,," wns buried October 2<}th, 1612,
J He nm a great friend of Bif^hop HaH\ who was
I at that period incumbent of Walthum. A " Henry
Sutton, 8k«>ol master," lies interred here, with
oUieiv of the same name, and probably of the
Any information bearing upon the
I^T. -e. W. Wl!STERfl.
iViir.uAju ♦■vubey.
Hided AM Bridok. — Can you give me any iu'
formation m to where the above-named bridge waa
situated? In a Close RoU dated 8 Henry III,
nt« 7, the following occurs :^ —
**The King to tho Rarons of the Exchequer, orderins
tlirin to luiikti Allowance totlie Sheriff of Bedford « « . *
'. kc, A\*o is. for the repair of the bridge of Ride-
L;*u. r-i r,.i ^ot\. \u ni.t, 1224, at Dunstjible.**
1 e to the siege of Bedford
Ca**:.. . I-...0 in that year. An early
reply will much oblige. D. C. E»
•♦THE BOOK,*' BY MRS, BCRRES, kc.
(5»^ S. ii. 32 L)
My anttcipntion that an inquirv through your
' - , . » . • . , ^^^^^
t>ub-
lave
been fulfilled. I do not
J- .^ ^^...v..- .f .. ...a I have not yet seen the
volume ; and 1 hope, considering the interest which
I must feel in " N* & Q.," I may be pardoned if
I Iriy before your readers this fi^sh proof of it«
iiserntne8s»
Tho nin>earance of my notice of tho various
woiks by, or rehiting to, Mrs. Serres, in '^ N. dfe Q."
of the 21th ultimo, produced several communica-
tions of more or less interest, some from old cof^
respondent*, some from gentlemen whose courtftBy
W4IA increased by the fact that I was peraonnUy
unknown to them.
Mr, Bates wh^ not only kind enough to forward
for my acceptance, what I was much in want of, a
perfect copv of TJtc Wrongs of 1h€ Princtss of
Vuinhaiand^ but accompanied his present with a
long and inlercating letter, in the course of which
he called my attention to the following cutting
from a booksellers Catalogue : —
** Curiousi. — *Th<j Book ! ' or Procnwtinated Memoiri;
an Uietoric&l Rom&ace. 12mo., half cloth, 2i. 1322L
" The character of Liidy Mepftliaa it the moct pro*
minerit in the Book."
My impresdon on reading this was that it
referred to the very book of which I was in search.
Like Tfi4 Frincas and Marit Amu Z/iw, it was
in 12mo. ; it was published in 1912, and, like the
former, it was described as '^ An Historical Bo*
mancc."
Mr, Bates had stated his belief that the cutting
was from ooe of the Catalogues of Mr. John Sal-
keld, of Orange Street, Red Liou Square, and he
was right. On my calling on Mr. Salkeld, who is
as obliging as he is intelligent, he first traced the
Catalogue in which the volume was included, viz.,
No. XClIL, published by him in October, 1873,
and then at considerable trouble traced out the
purchaser, Mr, George Zair, of Birmingham,
I then wrote to that gentleman, making several
inquiries about the book, and requesting to be
favoured with the loan of it for a few days,
Ko thing could exceed the kindness and courteey
of Mr. Zair's reply. When th© volume reached
him, he found, what is often the case with books
purchiised as this had been, it was not the work
ne expected ; and on reatling it, finding it dull and
immoral, he had either thrown it away or behind
the fire. If this " Book " is, as I strongly believe,
the production of Mrs. Serres, I can quite recog-
nize the juiticc of Mr. Zairs criticism, for when I
W21S obi' • « « •"> through llie Princf$i and Afarw
Anm I lid not help paroiiying the old
song 0} . ., .- / of the Mill, and singing : —
** I 've rt'iuJ Hnd I'to turned over miiny doll bookf,
And chim^ed thorn fts oft m I durtt,
But of All the dtdl books that erer t rend
D»me Serref'i sure are the womt,"
A jiucond search among Mr, 7 -' ^ Aib has
not been attended with oetter ut that
grr ' " ^vis been kind enough lo . ., > ;» should
'♦ I ' ever turn up, I may re«t asmt<s*L 1
d
A
410
NOTES AND QUERIES.
ie*B.ILN0T.21,74.
The existence of **The Book, a ProcxaBtinated
Memoir, ISmo., US 12/^ Wing thus established, can
an J of your readers point out where a com- may be
BesB I William J, Thoms,
iOf St GeoTS«'i Square, S.W.
P.S.— I was not ft ware until I saw Mr. Cookk-s
Httttement ilmt there were two copies of the
Memoirs of S^rti in the Britisli Mnseum.
Whether there is any foundation for the report
thftt the pamphlet — for it ia only a pamphlet —
was Buppreased, I know not ; it certninly was not
snppreased by the Crovernmentj for the only party
intereisted in suppressing it wa« Mrs, Serres, As
I End it is even more scarce than I had anticipated,
1 am half disposed to reprint it, with the addition
l>f the autobiographical WiO (neveT proved) of poor
B^rres, which I have in hia own iiuto^ph, and
other illustrations from the mms of origijm Sertes
papers in my possession.
THE FIGHT AT PERTH,
(5* S, i, 364, 469 ; iL 69, 189.)
Perhaps I owe some apology to Ma. Shaw, for
liot having replied at greater length in my last
letter to his pre? bus one. My main reii&on was
that^ if I had dooe so, I should have been chiefly
repK>ducing arguments which hare already been
urged in the pages of ** N, & Q/
The chief object of my lost communication was
to connect the origin of the fight at Perth with the
skirmish at Glasclune. I h»d endeayoured to do
this, while going into detail as little as possible.
If I had written more fully, poasibly so much ex-
ception might not have been taken to my state-
ments.
In replying to Mr. Shaw's letter (ii., 169), I
shall treat mainly of the antecedents of the fight.
About the fight itself I have nothing new to ad-
Tan ce. Indeed, I have never attempted more than
to digest information, nearly all of which has been
long before the world, and I w^ait for the fresh
facts that have been promised ua by Mr. Shaw.
1, Mr. Shaw aaks me pertinently, on what
authority I t^lk of Sha or Ferquhar in Brae Angus
or Brae Mar before the date of the fight. Ad-
mitting, in the first place, that I have spoken of
Sha, son of Ferquhar, when it would have been
more correct to have said Feniuhar, son of Sha, I
shall speak now merely of individual names, with-
out mising any question as to how far they repre-
sented races or clans. I believe that it is admitted
on all hands, that there were Shas and Ferquhars,
Slias sons of Ferrpibar, and Ferquhars sons of
Sha, and Shas sons of the Taschacti on Speyside,
before the date of the fight at Perth. It will also
he admitted that these names appear in Braemar.
The question is at what date they do so. Passing
bj 31133 Tayhr'a mention in IThe Tmditioni oj
Braemur^ that a Sha crossed over and settled there
in the beginning of the fourteenth centuiy, we
have distinct evidence, according to the CbartnWy
of Aberdeen, that Ferquhar MajckintoshT^ with \m
adherents, in the year 1382, not only plnndewd
lands as far down Deeside as Birsa, but th^t he
did so in vindrcation of certain rights which be
asserted over those londs, Ferquhar, it may be
presumed, must have had some footing bcfofe Uuf
on the upper part- of the Dee, if at ilmt exurly di£e
he laid claim to lands, perhajm the furthest down
Deeside, that have been owned at a&y time bj tlie
sons of Ferijuhar.
This would be equally true^ whether the Pe^
quhar Mackintosby in question was the he6d d
the race in Inverness-shire or not.' But» according
to the ordinary genealogy in Douglas's Bar&nafi^
there was no Ferquhar head of the race in Tnvw^
ness-shire at that date. It is, therefore, litcJj
that this Ferquhar was an offset of the name, who
had settled in Eraemar.
Further, we learn from Douglas, on the anthoiitj
of the Stnian MS. (as good an authority, I suppoic,
as most iuch documents), that Ferquhar, son of
Sha of Rothiemureus, was settled on Deeside ia
the reigns of Robert IL and HL, and was m&rded
to the daughter of Patrick Duncanson, who wis
one of the brothers outlawed for their share in the
Raid of Angus.
It thus seems nearly certain that there was &
Ferquhar, son of Sha, on Deeside before 13&2L
I advisedly use the phrase " nearly certain," as I
do not see that anything is to be gained by over
positive assertion in so complicated on inquiry.
if there was one^ it is tolerably certain, in the cas«
of Celts, that there were more of the name.
As to the meaning of the word paTentda, per-
haps I might have stated more fully, that I no*
doubt whether it has any stronger me«ninE of
relationship than the words kin or clan have, tmt
it docs not foHow^ that ^' I give up the idea tlmt
the combatant clans may have been closely con*
nected."
(Tq hi catdinmd,)
Ukskttled Baeonetcies (G"" S, i» 125, 194,
252 I ii, 15, S07,)— S, seems to infer that, beoaase
I made no reply to Mr. Passisohams note, I
admitted its accuracy. This is very far from
being the case. !My silence 1ms arisen from s
growing conviction of the utter hopeleisneaB of the
attempt to impress upon the mmds of Enghsh
gen tie u) en the fact that questions arising out of
the laws and customs of Scotland cannot be dis-
cussed and decided according to the laws aa^
customs of England. Though we do not **cill
time '' here, some of us are compelled to vilite
time. S. appeajfs to think that I founded upon
^IW ^iy,\\te Qf Liuiitations, On the eontrair, I
•»8.ii.NoT.a,7i.2 NOTES AND QUERIES.
411
k&Te always harl a vague irapresaion that that
Statute had some bcuring uj>oq a tnwlesman's tic-
cfmat in Enghmd, but 1 never usyociated it with
11 Scottish Baronetcy.
8. tiUks at mndom as if a Service were stUi
com^tent before '*a jury of neighbouring country
;enUL'men/' ah hough the Blightest inquiiy would
wn him that for the liist sevcn-and-twcnty
proce<lure ha^ been in the hands of a
^ lOj from whose decibion an appeal lies
to me Court. If S» wUi refer to 4*^ S.
XL ..*-, ^,t "ill find this set forth in a, diacus^sion
in which he himself took part, I cannot think
that the object of ** N. & t^." is best served by a
coutinuiil repetition of the simplest facts.
Both Mr. Pass INGHAM and S» tell us that, by
the hiw of Scotland as it now stands, a Service
csfuinotf directly or indirectly, affect a Baronetcy.
1 should not be at ail sorry to be able to a^ree
with them in thinking so. But I fear I cannot
in the fucc not only of the authorities but also of
tl>e fiicts. Some distinguished Scottish lawyers
yone even further, and held that a Service
^_ i atfect a Scottish Peerage,— a view, however*
fliieh baa been aet aside by the House of Lords*,
no doubt with entire propriety. I have before me
An Opinion given in 1813 by the celebrated John
C'lerk of Eldin, then the Leader of the Scottish
■j in which, speaking of the state of the Scotfs
before the? Union, he says :■ —
"The lii*t Lord B-- — was «€rtcd htir to his prcde-
cewor in t>ic Peerage in the year 17—.
" Tbt4 Bervice, according to the Scota Lhvr, vested in
bit pereoa a tieht to the Peerage, The Service couU
bAve been chalTenged at the instance or a nearer heir
withtii 20 years from iU date. Kut it could not hare
been Ghal)e]i;;td at the instance of the nearer heir, or of
woy perron whatever, after 20 years from its date, either
upon illegitimacy in the pedigree or uiHin anj other
ground.
** Xo chKlIenge of this Service was brought fonvard
within 2«) yCArg.
^ Ttie ri|fUt iras therefore finally eitabliihed in the
m r>f the late Lord B^ ftccordinK to tho Scots
by tho SorTice alone.
" Where m Service it unneceftsarr for Tesiing the ri^ht,
it is oftfiii neecesarj for proving that the party chiming
is th* p<?r8on in whom the right hns vested. TUU
happens iu the cai^e af a remote collati^ml to whom a
ttile vf boDcmr dct cends.
• • * « •
♦' . TCflt n Pccrnjie in him
l-wb" But notttiihatundiii[j
lihi*. . . -, . . L . ^iit bettor; 1st, us }»roof
I by tho Luw <>i at he i« the pei-son Tested;
|£d. as a tU)e i Ion where it is 20 ^eursotJ,
which cftTjnot be cbuMciii' d."
Even tho late Mr, John RiddeU, who had as
grrat a hom^r of the conae»[uences of a jud^^mient
*f " a jury of neighbouring country gentlemen " as
tbcr Mr. Passikgham or S., wa.-* comf>elled to
ciit, in commenlini; upon what he ref;arded aa
the erroneous decision of the Court of Session in
the case of Nelson i\ Kelson, that —
**The derision not only directly cotnpromisefl the
ordin»ry statiu and pediKrees of fHnaiHci, but the ri^ht
[itsi} to di^nitie^, such as Baronetciea of Nora Scntt&i
which ure usually assumed by a ferTicc'* — Inquiry,
?oh i. p. U3.
And it is a notorious fact that, at the present
day, Scottish Baronetcies are assumed by Service,
and by nothing else. Some of the parties as-
suming are fortunate enough to be able to induce
**good Sir Bernard Burke to put them in his
work,'* and some are not. Whether or not the
latter have any legal reniedy, I cannot pretend to
say.
Ma. Passinoham says that *St is an undeniable
rule that the Crown cjvnnot Buflfer from neglect or
laches.*' In reply, I can only say that it is un-
deniable that, according to the Law of Scotland,
the positive prescription runs against the Crown,
The sufjgestion of Mr. Pas-sinoham, favoured
by S.J that the jurisdiction iu Scottish Baronetcies,
depending, for the most part, upon questions of
purely Scottij^h law^ should be given to tho Eng-
lish Probate Court, cannot for a raoruent be
seriously entertained. W, M.
Edinburgh.
Madame Poland (5«*^ S. il 168, 255.}— It is
difficult to find a subject relating to French bin-
grnphy or history upon which M* Jal has not
thrown some light in his Didionnaire de Bio-
fjrtfphu el (rUistoirej already frequently referred
to in " N. & Q." After reading his article on
Madame Poland (p. 1077 of the second edition),
it seems perfectly clear that what he cites as the
third edition (the last published at the time he
wrote thi? particular article^ in 1855) of the Mc*
moirs of Madame Boland by Barriferc, 1827, is
perfectly authentic. If it had not been, M. Jal
would have detected the fraud and exposed it.
We can, therefore, I think with confidence, asaumc
that the above Mcmoin are authentic, especially
as the fifth edition was published in 1&64. (Jal,
ihid., p. 1081.)
Nevertheless, there appears to be some gronnd
for the question started by Unkda, whether there
are not some spurious Memoirs j and certainly sucli
as he alludes to could not have been written by
Madame Poland without upsetting all history.
The ground I fiiitj for U>rEDA's question is the
following. In the third volume of the third edi-
tion of Querard's Supercherits Litt,^ published in
1870 (col. 44G), it is stateii that Proudhon, in his
work Dt la Jvsiue dnnt la Involution ct ^ianx
V^gluf^ states as an iucontes table fact that the
Memoirs publi-shcd under the name of Madame
Roland are apocryphal. Oli*har Hamst,
Her Mctiioirs, the MS. of whicli, I believe, is
in tlie Biblioth^/^ue Im^^etuvle^ ?ct<t >OTij^sj<sfev^V|
412
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t5**3.II-Nov.21,7*
gienuine. Following the bad example of Kousseau,
whose bjiltful influence was at its heiglit, ahe wiote
some " Confesaions/' whbh should never have
been writt^Ti, and which spoil a very interesting
and beautiful book. With the exf?eptioa of some
three or four po^esj however, the Mtmoirt are ut^t
unworthy of Madame Roland, and an Eoglish
edition might (with a few neceasarj omissions) be
giren to tbo world, Tlie latcstl French edition iit,
I believe, the one by M. Dan ban in 1864,
H, A, B,
P.S, In a MS. of JLidnme Koland^d which I
possesSi and which is probnblj' unpttblii^hed, ehc
Bays (Juue, 1777) :—
** Eten pVit tl do ax, ^elon moi^ que dc sb trourer iivoir
gmclqui'afitkLQgie hv0{S de« Fer^otineii Esttmiiblep ; etiJinDt
Bc^uBseau ou Diderot, maia surbntit !e pri'tni r, j^zU bhu-
Yent €proaT6 de» tmniports oxceMif ct aeliciaux,^' kc.
1 have transcribed the passage exactly m it is
"written,
SiK Geraed Ufflete (5'^aiL 14f), 255,) —
Although alwayi written bo, this name should be
TJiflete, the long § being tnl<on for &n / The
family took its name from Ousefleet,* in the fiarish
of Whitgift, CO. York, which it held of St Mary**
Abbey, Yorl',
Sir Gerard was no obscure pcrflon, for he wai
ftt the memoriible battle of Agincourt (Oct. 2o,
1415], with a retinue of lancca and thirty-three
ttrchers (NIcoUlb*s E^U}^ and wiis probably at that
date hnsljand of Eliziibeth (Arundel), Dnchcii!!
Dowager of Norfolk, f then thirty -eight, widow
when he mnnied her of her third husband, Sir
Et^bert Gonr-hill, who died July 2U, 14U4. Sir
Oemrd left no imnc^ and in his will, dated Sept,
13, 1420, an^l ^)roved Fi?b. 12, 1421 (T^'iL Ehor.,
i, 1597), be uierttions his wift? with great I'csj^ect lui
"domiua mea, uxor men," without name, aUo her
daughter as *' my l-uly ilargavret " (married to Sir
Eohert Howard, whence the present Duke of
Norfolk). The Duchesis survived him, died July 8,
1424j anil was buried with Sir Hobert Gouslidl at
Hoverin;:thE^^iiiT Nottn (Bakers Korthant.<^ i. 581)
and 547;. Sir Gcn^rd desired to be buried in the
csonventual church of Xorth Ferriby, biit^ as his
will seem^ tr> fiivc been m;ule al>rc»ad, he probably
died there. He was the only Hon of Sir (rerai^i
dc Unflcte, hiirh E^hcritT of Yorkshire, whose will
may also he i'ound in Tt^f. Ebor.^ i. 3-ln, wM
^andson of Sir Geranl de Ui^flete, who derived
his ChrL=iti:m name throuiih his mother Lora or
* I do not think this phicc denvcd its name frrjiii the
rir^r One, thouffh ucftr it. Fop tbe form L'lriJi*fli;to
which occur.^, taken in canjiinction with Swim^floet
(Sweyn*8 Jket) and AdliDfjIlete (in D. H. Ade!iiitfP:*tiuet^
puiDtd to a personal Damo; cf. Ongton or O^ukoston
Abbey, Lciceatcrnblre^ and OwBti]orp&, anciently QiJ=cl-
tborpe {HowJcashiro).
f in tbe b:itt]e «he loit hor gen-m-lftw, Hichael d« 1a
Lorette (m. 1, John de UaJlete, 2, Sir Geoffrey If
Scrope of Masham, knight banneret), fjrom her
father, Gerard de Furnivid, whose co-heir she wm.
The name of Gerard, which can thus l>e tra«d
to a Norman knight of the time of King Stephen,
Geraril de FonrneviUe (diocese of Bayenx), lingettd
in this neighbonrhood until modem times. In
the south mancel wall of the nei^hbooTiiig, but
very out of the way and interesting, bnt littk
known, church of Adlingfleet, under a canopied
arch, ii the recumbent etftgy of a lady of thia m.^
which remains to be identihed, perhaps one of U»
DuebeBs's daughters, for on the side in panels ait
these four uhieldi* of arms : — 1, On a bend cotiaed
between six lions rampant three muUet^ Belnn^
Harl of Northampton, undoubtedly, the Duchen'a
maternal grandfather ; 2. A Uon rammnt^ Fttr^
alan or Mowbray ] 3, A lion rampant, Fitzal&D or
Jklowbray / 4, Three mullet-^, two and one, witMa
a bordure engmiled. Whose \ A. S. Ellis.
Chelies. ^
** Willie was a Waktoh Wag '' (5** S, iL
264,)— If the authorship of this highly popuki
song hct^ been ascribed to Hamilton, of Gilbezt-
field, and to Douglas, of Fingknd, it ako has be«Q
claimed for another, Williftm Walkiii|^hflW, of thit
Ilk, Eenfrewihire, by Burns in Johnson's Mva
Museum^ and by Robert Chambers in hie Scaiti^
Sm^s (p. 300, 1829). But the latter recnJledj to
f ome extent, this opinion in his Sojif^M of Beothn^
prior to Btirm, published in 1862, p, 165, when
he fouuf] it in opposition to a different view,
announced in the interval hy Mr,, now Dr,, David
Lrviug, of Edinburgh. Gilbertfield was bom ia
lfi80, smd died in 1751 ; and if it be true, as ijaid,
tluit H'aitton IVUlk wrts actually a sohrtqud given
him ia his lifetime, and that he was a copieoa
writer of Scottish verses, as weU as a friend and
correspondent of Allan Ramsay, probability would
incline towards him as the author. The song
finit apparcd in Eiimsay's Tta Tahlt Afitef/Z^fiy,
published in 17i?4. Jt was there initialed " W. W,"";
anil presuuvpUvely the anthor was then alive and
kiiiiwn to ltam5=Liiy. A doubt, however, must alwap
exi:?itj whether Gilbertlield, if the author, could al^e
lie th(? liero^ loading himself with, besides the title
of V\r\ W,^ £ueh fulsome pRiisJCS as the song contains
Nothing in tlie whole piece would betoken that
Willie was of the cliurLUtt riiuil mien oLDouglaa, of
Fingland, a^ lie ii^ dcsCriWd by Dp.. RAMAaE. fie
could not liave had *" fic^rce and smunting eye^^
nor been a avvonlsnum, ft>nd of. and exeelling in,
duelling I for in the .H^ing he is descJibed, not onlv
as *^ braw '■ ('* And wow but Willie he was braw %
bnt as " The bUthcd lad that e'er I saw/'
" Ring Dancea " were, m it would appear, at the
ihdc of this song, nmch in vogue. Hone besidei
are mentioned in the £ong, which refers throngh-
LQMtl \^ 0. bridal party eapged In dam^nig^ iw
tWov.21,74]
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
413
.....* .^... I ,..,* fif Jqoi^ upon Ui«? grt'fD. Of
11^11 ^i<r ti^-cii nane dnrst him ttfUg,
The fient • unc amiutg them m*.*'
sftM meffily roond the rinp tliey raw'd,
Wfien bv tbe Imnd be led tUem »*,
^^ fincick on cmnck on them bofttow'd!
vIrUie uf n it&ndtng liiw."
R.
\S0n(fM of Heotlmult by George Farquhur
li« «oog in ascrilHst to Mr Walkiog-
Usl^j ; it is Tiho stuted that the song
hed in the OiyhcuM Cai€domus in 172(>,
|lh fhf nir wliii-h ttow bears thut name.
rton^j There wiff a Las$^
the Jiir of Willie wm <i
^i "J W. J. BIacat»am,
|i« Rd^jlf ITf>|itr Tooting.
OAl^ (6»^ B. ii. 3(16,)— The derivation of
n? 'i< Tini sn /^MtiHy iic<?ount<»d for bs your
onis to think. It is one
I ;:i t i^t incorporated into
liia^c no one (vin e^r^ctly tell when, whence,
Ita introduction ia of comparatively
!at«J. It i^ not found in Cotgrave or Bher*
•^evrrttcenth century)^ nor in Btiiley or
■nth century), nor even in Richard-
jL Tolumiuous work.
ja 8;ij8 **its true oni^in is the Indian word
.no.*'* He diie« not Bay whrtt langnn^e he
>ut of the
giiajjeof Indt
t-ninly it r >ii:
rtlxing MH I-
the thiij
fbich we :
I i^ken in Inditi,
i- the Sanskrit,
-nun u on! as (fingham^
to it. The Sanskrit
'riped or variegated
ijue arc (ulamdmm
r^JJi ,,,,*(- ( variof^at ed wi th
|ti»nn with the fabric iippear^ to
oduced from Fmnce, where the
still manufactured. Littri5, Jtuh
^ gives Ifit ** Etoffe de coton iinc/*
I de coton bhinche do ITnde/* He
the AMm' T^uynil n pn^ n;:^^' de-
ft "dc iDoudioira .! fttVS
^bcau rougo ipK' ! |ueul
a, oil ils Aont ^U^biifi di^puU tit^^-lou^*
vi'p* *♦ Guinffump, ville de
liLiiieji de ti*3U^/*
use« tlie word guin-
n^ Word, inertly a»
tiiucii J nut with uoy reference
. .,. l^urtU'
Ct explained by Vieym as '' u
Id the article "Guingauip/* in the Enqf. Brii^
it Ib atiited that there are '* manufactures of ging*
hamiif to which the town pves its nume/' In the
c3orrc»poDding article in the Penny CijeLj it is mid
•* lh{ It' aiv iirtnu factored of hntns which tjike their
town/' Tbi«i is evidently flk midlnke,
;>,' cotton tirtsuca.
Xhi; FrBtK-h Jan<^u.ige mny, however, furnish yet
another derivation, Guingoi^ meutts athwart,
across, crooked. The variegated striped and
crossed pattern may pons ibly have originated the
name. It is difficult to conceive so widely spread
a term taking its rise from the small manufaeture
of what is little better than a rillatre. Your
readers, however, muat judge for tbeinseTres.
J. A. PiCTON.
Sftndjktiowe, Wavertree.
** Monsieur'' and "Madame" {b^ S ii. 205,
274.)— It is a well-known fact in French history
that, since the eixteenth century, Montitvr^ use*!
by itself and as a proper name, has been applied
to the eldest brother of the King of France. Tlve
princeii who bore tins title were : Henri, Duke of
Anjt»u, under Ckirlea IX. ; Francois, Duke of
Alentjon, under Henri III. ; Gaston d'OrMans,
under Louis XI II. ; Philippe d'Orltan.?, under
Louis XIV. ; the Count of Provence (afterwards
Louis XVIII.), under Louis XVI. ; and the Count
of ArloiB (afterwards Cbarles X.), under Louia
XVIIL Moiimur's wife was styled Madame^ or
Madmfie Royalty these titles being given also to
the king's eldest daughter. In the French wrilertt
of the time Hcnriette d'Angleterre, tbe daughter
of tbe En^dish king, Charles L, and the wife of
Philippe d'Orlt^ans, brother of Loui?i XIV., is
always called Madame. Every one will remember
the fkmous passage of her funeral oratio by
Bossnet : — " O nnit d^sast reuse 1 o nuit eifroyuble,
oil retentit tout h coup couime un eclat de tonncrre
cette ^tonnante nouvelle : ^ladame se meurt !
Madame est morte ! "
Naturally enougb, in the seventeenth century,
they begin to _■ •) Irleat daughter of iVoM^raMir
*' le titre de M '^.'' The moi»t celebrated
princeiis of tb.ii nr in ^.ts the Duche^« o( Mont-
pensier, daughter of Oiiston d'OrKun-i and nietr of
Louis XIIL, -• . i ilv known as "hi Grande Ma-
demoiselle,*'i h ber from Murie-Louise,
dau;;hter of 1 , . d'Orleans owd niece of
Lonis XrV., who was also Madrmoi*flU,
Hzsm Gausskboic,
Ayr Academy
ii. 3690— The name of
by Edward
III.
by him i;
in I he
Little T
time of 1
to tbe
Muded
lii-X
'V on
John t
414
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5* a IL Not. 21, 74.
minster^ an Pcnmint states , *^ in opposition to
Westminaterj in respect of its situation." New-
come observes (i* 465) ttuit the king built the
Abbey, ** having before, in a tempest on the sea
and in peril of drowning, made a vow to build a
monaatery to the honour of God and the Lady of
Graeej if God would gmnt htm grace to come safo
to land," Baroei, in his Life of King Edu^ant^
p, 437, says that the kin^ " caused it to be named
£ait Minatar^ though it was also called by the
name of Niw A bhqf^'' and in after times it appears
generally to l^ave been so called. At tho Disao-
hit ion, 1530, it was seized by the king, and a very
interesting letter from the I^ord Mayor, Richard
Gresham, h given by Burnett (HuL liefontmiionj
iiL, Slip, 149), praying the king to give the Abbey
to the City for the benefit of the deaerving sick
poor of London ; and in thb letter he terms it the
Mtw Abhaj of Toittr IfilL The king did not
comply with this retmeHtj but gr.mted the rich
Abbey to Sir Arthur Darcy, who pulled it down.
It is, therefore, clear that, fire centuries ago,
London had two abbeys— Westminster and East-
minster, but that their fate in the Hefonnation
was Tcry different, for, whilst the fonner became
a reforaied church, the latter was condemQed,sold,
and destroyed ; and on its si to a fe f^ years Inter,
as Stowe relates, ** convenient ovens were build cd
for baking of biskit, to serve hir Majesties shippes."
On another part alfiugbter- houses were erected,
and subsequently the Royal Victualling Offices
were built. Edwahd Sollt.
This w^aa the CL^tercian house of St. Mary
Graces, or New Abbey, in East Sutithfield, without
the wails of London, ''Abbatia S, Maria? de Gratiia
juxtaTurrim* Mackenzie E. C Walcott.
MxEMOMc Calendars (5*^8. i. 5, fiP, 179, 257,
358 J ii, 233, 353.)— The series of references pre-
fixed to my former communication (5**^ S. IL 233)
ifl again pluecd at the head of this present nt^tice»
in order to show that A. E. B , p. 353, is quite
mistaken in surmising that he has encountered,
however accidentally, the pains takeri by me to
deprive a venerable mental almanac of all its best
features, in order to produce a *' worthies.^ c<}pit(
Tnorhuim" of my own ! The pains taken by me
have had no sach object. I do not find, in the
articles to which I have referred, the slightest
allusion to any venenible almanac, or to any paper
in a former series of " N. & Q." I wii>^ really not
aware that A, E. B, bad made a communication
anent the " mental almanac as old as Venerable
Bede" untU my attention w*is called to the ciix.uni-
stance by his recent note, in which my suggestions
appear to be criticized with more severity than
skill. The object of my communication was
simply to point out that, however useful " A
Mnemonic Cdendar for 1674,'^ as proposed by a
coirespQndent or the 3rd Jan,, 1874, mi^\it ftig^peai
to be, a Mnemonic Calendar which wouM apply to
ai3y year within the current century wonld hnTea
more practical value ; and, lest any one shonM Inad-
vertently apply the same rule to one of the yean
in the century immediately preceding, and thai be
led into an error of one day, I indicated , in a foot-
note, the mode of avoiding such error. So maeh
for my " unexplained preference for the eighteenth
century. '' Had A. E. B. taken the trouble to
eitamine the several communications indicated tl
the head of mj paper, and thtn to have favomtd
my note of the 19 th Bept., 1874, with a coimdeiitf^
perusal, he might prouably have found a mMa
designation for my lucubfation than a *^ worthleft
caput mmiuvmJ- He might alBO have seen tkt
the problem of ascertaining on what weck-djy tie
26th June, 1615, fcU has been Bolredi ai^oomiii^to
my rule, by a simple reference to the 4th June of
that year, or (as he would say) by "going diifct
to the month required ^ ; whereas he has etToneouiJj'
assumed that 1 ^^ cannot get to any month witkoat
first having recourse to January /-
The fact that 1 had not €ven Juard o/, much Im
^^seen and studied the almanac of Venenhle
Bede,** will, perhaps, be deemed a sufficient itdp
not only to the hypothetic sarcasm contained in
the concluding paragraph of A. £. B.'s eritifiiiiB,
but also to the insinuation founded on &n apput^t
similarity between the two lines which ire hu
appended in form of a eoupht The former of
t^ese lines is quite unknown to me, the kttff
haa been marred by mLsquottition I
Carl Dlaj.
Dablln.
FiELDiNG^B PuovEUns (5*^ S, 11. 2CJ9.)— I »is
not aware of the facts stated in Mr, SxErnES
Jackson^s inteTesting note. As the work be
refers to, Sikd Proverbs of all Nations^ was pob-
lished in 1824, and "Thomas" is given as titt
author*.^ Christian name, Mr. Denhani must ha^
been under one of tho;^ hallucinations we are ^1
Bubject to at times to mistake the work for &m d
Henry Fielding's. It also implies bad biblio*
graphical knowledge. Will Mr. JAcreojf kiBiUj
oblige with bis reasons or authority for his oole,
and also give the page of Mr. Benham^s book
(Percy Society *fl Puoliciitionii, I presume) where
the reference to Fiddimfs Provtrhs la to be fomdf
unless it is in the index (if any) ?
In the firit volume of the last ^ries, p. 315* I
asked for information as to W. H. Ireland's ps^ado*
nyms J I am obliged to Mr. Jackson for addiiij
one to my store* OLrtTAR Hahst.
r^cw Bat met, Herti, N. !
EEGlJfAtn, COUKT DE Valletorta (5^ S* it.
368.) — There Bcems to be great doubt ahotit Ih*
identity and parentage of Bichaitl de Oomewall^i |
mother, I have her down (I regret excfedto^y
^th^l I have not marked my auth^Ity) a» Beitni^
ff»8. n. NcT. 21, 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
415
[daughter of Theodoric de Faikmorite. I should
[be very gnvteful if any one would either furnisb
I with u complete pedigree of Richard^s descend-
|(dow represented by the Corn walls of Delbury)
'^tell me where thev may be traced. I cAnnot
[ complete the descent from the ordinary books of
I reference, 0. F. S, Warren, M,A.
[HiiiMKXTiiuttB will reply nest week.]
New Readings (5"^ S. ii. 285.) -The pocket
edttioQ of Horace imit*t surely huve been an
J expiLT^nted one. It remimia me of Byron's lines,
I Iktn Juan^ Citnto i. 8, 44 :—
•* Juan Mrfts taught fnim out the best edition,
KxpurgiLCedi by IcarDi?d men, who pluce,
Judiciuusl V, from out the schoolboy'^ Tision
The grasper parta; but fearful to deface
Too much tbcir modc«i bard by tbis omiislon,
And pityinjc sore hie mutilated cojfc,
1iej only add them all in an appeudix,
iThicb saves, in factj the trouble of an index/*
Doerings Horace^ by Charles Anthon, LL.B,
((Loagman & Co., London, 185C>), has "deterrioiii"
|Ui»te«kd of ** teterriina." Fredk. Rule.
**RioHTS OF TiiE Christian Church," &c.
1(5^ S. ii, 195, 376.) — Swift wiis certtiinly mistaken
■in ascribing to Tol and the authorship of The EitjhtA
\ of the Ch rist ian Cfi u rc/i . D r, H ickes, w hen wri ting
bia reply^ nlthough he did not actually mentioQ
Tindal'^ name, showed nevertheless by nrmiLstak-
I Able uHu.'jion^ to hiui, that he felt tolerably sure
lUint he was the author ; but in a subsequent work,
ftSjnmniia JUiivtd, Hickes has put the question
[lioyond a doubt by saying that he has seen a letter
Jof Timlars "in his own writing, wherein be owns
Ihimself Ut be the author of it." F, NoROATE.
17, Bedford Street, Covent Garden.
EnHi^K Street (5*^ 8. il 348.)— Are not these
i\ation8 identical, Irmunsal or Irrainsul
■J " Divine Warrior"? And was not Odin
ttiH' iz' ' i ^hus indicated I If I am mistaken in either
Uuppu^ition, I shall be glad to be corrected.
Hrrmentrcde.
FREiJcn pRONtTKciATioN (5"» S, ii. 368.)— The
lie of The Eoitciad to which C, E, E. refers is
wrong. At first, J50w«, according to the
FtvDch pntnunciiktion, could never rhyme with
On the other band, the feiogular word is
jind not souSf as it comes from solkhi9t und
rmcriy was and sometimes in yet spelt soL
Henri Uausseron.
PORT T^iArLS i'r>»^ S. L 251>) are beads made by
sic I tia, and used by them as money
rior of Africa* A8HA>*tkk is
fH^Ui ii« lo their value. J. E. Hai<i«
' r. Fox's Ijv.w .NND Dumb Son
, II, W, F, Rae sjiy3, on the an-
\^ k j."-ri*. that Ch/< I i es J^imc'3 Fox had a
natural son who was deaf and dumb, and add^* ** I
am not aware of any record of what became oi this
son.'* The following touching extract from Ite^
coUedionA of the Tabh-Talk of Saiimcl Rogers^
pp. 80-1 (Moxon, 1856), will, i think, supply an
answer to Mr, Rae's indirect query : —
" I once dined at Mr. Stono s (at Fldcltncy) with Fox,
Sberid.m, Talleyrand, Madame de GeuUs* Pamela, and
iomc other celebrated persons of the time. A natural
son of Fox, a dumb boy (wlio was the very image of his
father, and who died a few yeara after, when about the
age of fifteen 1, was algct tbere, bavin;? come, for the oc-
casion^ from Braid wood i Academy, To him Fox ainioit
entirely confined hi* attention, conversing with him by
the fingers; and tbcir eyes glistened as tbey looked at
each other. Talleyrand remit rked to me ' UuW str&ttge
it was to dine in company with the first orator in Europe,
and only Me him talk witA Ui^ Jingeri ! ' **
S. R. Townbhend Mai'eii,
Eichmondj Surrey.
" VmoiN " (.j»»» a il 248.)-I think " Virgin " is
most probably the name of a man. It is not an
uncommon name in Sweden, and at least one
bearer of it htis made himself known. Christian
Adolphe Virgin, the >Svvedbh navigator, son of a
rear-admiral, bora at Gottenburg, *September 5,
1797, (Bee Vapereau's Dictionnairc Unlvcrstl
de^ Contemporain^, Paris, 1858)
One " Virgin ^' is the Reporter to the State of
Mnine. See the 52nd volume of the Maine. Be-
ports^ published at Hallo well, 1860. {Reports of
Casts in Law and EfiaiUj, ddermined by ih< Su-
preme Judicial Court of Maine. By Wm. Wirt
Virgin, Refmrter to the State,)
Sparks Henhersoit Willi asi^,
Kenitngton Crescent, \V.
The Peerage a??d Baronetage (5*** S. ii, 268.)
— A list of existing peers, according to their dates
of creation, and specifying the year of creation and
the sovereign creating, is given at p. 87 of this
year's Wbitaker's Almanftch The editor culls the
list an " Historic Peerage," but, to be truly hittoric,
such a list should give the date;* when a family
was first ennobled, and, as in this case, when they
received their last title. This could be compiled
with but little trouble, and would, I think, be
found to be of remarkable interest. List* of
•baronetcies are published in m:iny works, of
which, perhaps the IShilling Barondiigf. is most
iiccessible. All such lists as I have seen are in-
complete by their omitting peer« who happen to
be baronets, R, Passinuham,
"Bonnie Annie Laurie" (o»»» S. ii, 264.)-
Might I suggest to Dr. Ramaue the advisability
of h's referring to the Scottish Cavaliers^ a novel
by James Grant I The author gives a full account
of the composition of An7nc La%ini\ and of the
death of its gallant author, J, S, STArroRD,
Blaec's Atlxs ^^^^ ?^. \\, «Ufn.^— '^lai^^^^y^^^N^
bis .4ccouTd of tUu Ifcltttvl% oj OTVtvt'W|>\»^^-t'^'^^'*
416
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6»* an. Not. 21,74.
makes meatioQ of ^'Toists, L^ets, KittiwackSf
Gulls, &c., \vbich build very thick on ihelrea of
Iilgli rocks," p, 73 ; be remarks the two first- named
are ** sea fowb, very fat and deUcioua/' p. 46*
The Toiat or Tyst« is the Bkck QuiUemot,
Uria GrylJc (aee Penn, Brit ZooL, vol ii. p. 163 ;
iJso Yarreirfl Birth, vol. iii» p. 356)» I think
"Tho Layer'' luij^t be the cointnoo or fooliah
OttiUemot* Uria Troile,— according to PenEant,
p. IGO, called the Lavy, Lomvie, &c,
P.S.^Mny not the quaint -looking fowl, **The
lAiver,'' with which the ameld of arms of the town
of LiYeTpool is clmrged^ be, aft^r all, merely the
common Gtu]lemt»t heraldicallj treated I I know
I shall bo considered a rooEster for snggeating
such a thincT,
Cipher (5^^ S. ii, Snrj.j—Mn* Warb aaka, ** How
oM is the practice of writing in cipher I " I can-
not answer this ([uery, but I can refer him to a
veiy ably written article on the subject, by an
anonytQoii.^ writer, in the (^onthiU Magazine, for
Febraiiry of thia year, who t resits the matter ex-
haustively under the title of " >tissives in Mas-
querade/' I ofler a few remarka on the modem
use of cipher,
I assume that whatever is written in any Ian-
guoge, the lettera being rolsphicetl, distorted in
any wiiy, or suppliet] by numerals or ori^^inal
ahapes, is called cipher. Arony mercantile firms
in London have a cipher^ which they make use of
for telef^msj so that their priv^-He iiffain! may not
become known, svUlionj*h publicly transmitted ;
the usual meth'id con.'?i>it8 of putting consnnanta
in the place of v<iwel?^, and rice in ml. I know
iereral method^i, but I dare not divuli;c them.
The writer, wboin T hivre mentioned [is trcjiting
of this suhject in the Corukill Mtigaxinc fur
Febniary last, for—
K6X4KKMaBi:iAnV^FPMim2Ki;M[>lLU*<^'i5DK6K4K
KMAB4MPC213.i4:*;4.\14K'JMPMri2MP4AlFBI34DKCli
E042R54X4M4K/'
reads—
** De* Menschr-n Lebe-i ivHIirct ficbensitg Jnhr, and
woDn'a koch kfiniiiit, ta eindV achtzi^, und wenn'fi kiitt'
hch ^«vr<;3€ii Ut, m ist c» MUhe und Arbeit gevi^ii/'
The way to read a cipher ifi tn compute what
letter, numeral or »i^n, occurs most ', then the next
most frequently rccurrin;^ letter muH^ he eoujzht
for, until five letter^, nnmcmU, or i^t<:ns, are iVu-
covered to be mo^^ u^^erL Pref^umin;; lbe?e to be
vowels^ it will require no very imn^ native person
to read the wliole,
The cipher— cAlled the Mor^e alphabet— u?ed
in the Post.-il Telci^niph Olhces, and which the
telegEiph jn^t rumen t^, by a ncicntriic process I
cannot here dUm>% mark on blue slips *>f paper,
and which yotinif lady telcgrapfhwt'^ teaA vf\^^lftm\\',
astonishing rapidity, is as foUowB ( — ii cilkd &
dash, - is called a dot) : —
A,.^; B, c — ' — s D, — — ; F,-j F,
" * r» ~" — SjH, ----,* It--; J, -— — — ;K,
; h, -J Mf — —i N, — * ; Of— 1 P,
And the figurei —
i»" — — — — ' 2," T't^' ' Ti *■"
This is a cipher— a dphi^r uied all or^f ih
world, and applied to great publio use. Lorm
and thieves use cipher. Although I catuwJt pnt
forth a claim to either of these distinct ion% I my-
self have written letters in cipher, and hnve
received replies in the same. Shorthand^ of whici
there are vorioas methods, may be termed cipbert
as also may the practice of speaking and purposelr
mis-aounding the vowels. This art b^ been bf©ai:br
to great perfection. Mr. John Forstei', in tbe fitvt
volume of Th^ Life of Cliatlei Ditktm^ telb in
bow young Dickens and his associates invented! a
lingo with which they would converse in ^
stieeti, as they had the ambition to be considered
foreigners. Perhaps some correspondent of *'N.
<fe Q ^' can refer me to a few tnals where frlooi
hare been proved to use cipher in their written
communieattona with their confederates.
Waltkh Bloomfieu).
139, Fackington Strett, Islington.
Sin Francis Swivt (.^^ S il 263, 333.>— !Jt
reply to Mn. Wister'^ query mifi, as I said,
written with no surer assistance than tif i^y
memory ; but I have ctigiudly laid hand^ on s
letter^ dated 28th December, 1839, addressed to
me by my cousin, the late th jure "^'i^count r4i-
iingford, which enables mo to correct my recent
comnumication. It mentions tho adminialration
tf> the wiU of the first Viscount, laearing dale
1 9th January, 1C3G; wbere;\s his decease U le-
corded in Eome of the old jjecrage- hooks as havini:
taken place in 1G42. The quest ion^ as my can*in
fairly put it to me, is, who acceded to the title
in succession to tbe first Viscount (as he dJed
^vithout male ii^sue, ita patent must have been
collateral) during the aforesaid interval of six yean ■
My cousin'^ letter ftirther observes his having Mfl»
it in an old iwemge-book m borne by Sir FffTKO*
Swift, the Sir Edv^trd Swift mentioned elsewhi^re
113 one of the Herefordshire mognatea at tbui
Crriod (in which cDUuty was our old family e^tai*)
eing, in all probability, a misnomer.
This has nc^thing to do with the City sheriff^ ^^
whose prfcnomen I have no C4?rtaiQ knowJr^^.
I hcanl it said the other day that it was I£i chant
Be this as it may^ I do not think he was of o^iT
E^uiiCND LEnrrBALii 6wirtB>
6* an. Nov. 21, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
417
PecCLUII TftEATKENT OP SOME WoRDS, &C.
1(5^*^ a i. 2-17 ; ii. 90, 197, 336.)"*S*wm d'or^f.--
\T\i' :' htion of hr< ' - \ corrupted from
I -rwr. lo *U('rc </ res contirmutioD.
Uiit,..- .,,,. iii^tory of liiL ->. LI liiieat will furnish
IthU, I thinlt we tnn.wt decline the cnticinj^ flerivn-
[tion 'T A ^t. J» M. gives. Oiie would expect
I ficr turn up iiB sogar-bafUif rather than
Ifcrtr. , , , no inversion (a^ bniUr-scotch showe)
[bciiig needed to English it. Littre says ^uae
Id'orgc is clarified sugar flavoured with barley
l(ory«) and tinted with Staflfron.
Henry Attwell.
Barnes.
Hkrriko Counting (S^^* S. ii. UJ7, 2l5;)^The
f^followintr is the nianner in which herrings ore
I caunt^d in the lele of Man. The mode of reckoning
1 1,5 by scoi^«, of which six score form the hundred,
land five hundred the rtifmah (Gaelic), njease or
I luxize, Jw epelt in »ome of the old Manx statutes,
\hy which lerm they are «oldj consisting of iMO
Lerrijigfli made up in the following way.
In counting the herrings from a boat, two of
.thr fishermen are almost invariably emplojcfl,
I each of whom alternately takes up a itarj> (nJimely
Ithj^e h*h), and throws them into a bivsket, calliDg
[•out aloud in Manx the number of warps thrown
] in. Thus, the first man callus out, as he throws in
this warp, *'annane'* (or, as it is j^enerally con-
\tnict«d, "nane^); the second calls '*jeev t^t>
»t "t)(ree," the second *^kiare." and so on until
the numWr reaches forty or '* daeed," whereupon
l.the first man throws in three extra herrings, calling
lout ** warp/* and the eecond, throwing in a single
l&ah, cries cut ''i\s tailhy/' that is *'and tally ."
The nipidity vvilh which a couple of experienced
i will count out a largt^ riuantity of herrings is
risin*;, The counting in English is attended
1th the enme forms, forty warp* of three fish,
[and the extra four to the hundred.
By nn Act of Tynwald, passed in 1817^ it wa?
Pf!ec!rred Hint the "cran** should contain forly-
I -h wine measure; but it very
use, and herrings are now sold
Lby uh\ ^ % bHjii'U'forc William HARiiido^r.
Kuck Muunt, late uf Man.
•* Gtnn ■' U U5(hJ for a uie4i5iire of rather more
ban a barrel of herrings, and is, I believe^ pectiliar
(to the S<jotch trade, W, Whistqk.
j>,:i.x', r..j:j. ^^'tonartt defines — ^^ixhtstol
e«l lee ; a ct^/i', u rt-K^el con*
• ,; : 1 n-)o .Mi'if^^'* making,
', and not
■ , . iHdiojiarjf.
Twos. BiftP.
Bomfor I
Ay OLti CLATUaar. (n»* S. ii. 10J>, 26a.Klf the
lai|ttif«ci oXiOni baa a Utsket hilt nf copper
or gun-metal, it wm probably worn by some ser-
geant in the English foot-guards early in the reign
of George III, or late in that of his predecessor.
There are several in the Tower of London, aad
two in my possession. One of the latter bears the
^imo in>tTiption as that on the blade described by
RcoT. The other is an Andrea Ferrara. As ibr
J. J. liunkel, I believe him to have been an ar-
mourer at Solingen^ about the end of the seven*
teenth century. I do not find his name in Bern-
min On IVcapom of IVar, but think I have seen
more blades than my own inscribed with it.
W. J. Bernhard Smith.
Temple.
*' Unaccustomed as I am,'* t&c. {6^ S, i. 367 ;
ii. 273.)— I think if Mfi. Danbt-Palmer will look
again, he will find that his quotation is not quite
relevant. Ajax, as I read the passage, does not
feay that he is " unaccustomed to public speaking,*'
for he did his full share of this when occasion
serve<lj but that lie was more forward to act th^n
to speak My motto, he would say, is " Facta non
Verba," but that of Ulysses the reverse : —
"Qauniutnqae ego Marie fcroci,
Quant ilm acie valeo, tantum Tulet iate loqueodo.*'
Edmund Tew, M.A.
Sn.LDDONGATK (5^^ S. 1. 328, 3!)5, 517 ; ii. 275)
may mean *'gate or opening of the Sbaddoti,**
perhaps the old appellation of one of the three
circumclngcnt rivers. The name Caude (i, q. the
CftJdew) might in time become Caudn, Cudn, and
finally Shaddon. II S. Charhock.
(Srt*fs Inn,
"SiyopLE" {5^ S. ii. S% 155, 277.)— In the
Manipulus Vocabulorum^ 1570 fCaaulen Boc.,
18C7), occur the following notices of this word ; —
"" , ' ?h, ruddU. 6yKCi?>yr, coiowrc> ftinopi*.** —
tone red t>f couloor; i^uiOids. tS^n^opU,^
couluoi rtdJfl, miniaciui. Synople, or red Me, minium.'*
A, L. :Maybkw.
Oiford.
N.B. This transcript is vfrhatim ct literatim,
Latin and E^GLise Quaktjty (6*^ S. i. 464 ;
ii. 13.)— I think Mr. Oaklet, in quoting the »tory
of the Scotch advocate who, in deference to Iho
judge, followed, as he thought, the Liitin Quantity
when he prrmounced senator *CK(Ifor, and orator
orator, must have overlooked this fact,— an rl it is
one little known, and still less written about,-—
namely, that nearly all EngUsh words (I admit
there sire excei»tions) derived from the Latin, when
piv>nounced corrf ' ' * ' ^ * on
ih*» root of the \T
418
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5* 8. IL Not. 21,74.
— Intenninable {terminvs); intermit' tent (milto) ;
inteme'cme [neea); sa'criatan (wcra). Elegant
speakers aiwnys «aj contei?ipkte (i^mplwmyt not
contemplate, Tliia latter form, howeTer, I admit
IB med by " the million/' J, L. C. S,
JoHEL DB ToTHEfl (5"^ S. il. 260, 308, 334,}—
Vide Moti,, iv,t 628, 630, and v., 196, 198; Kllls'a
IntfoducHon to Domesday j i., 109, 141 j QttaTterly
S^eiffj ccx,, 439 ; Madox, Fimm Burgi, 16, and
Barmia Anglica^ 45, 64, 91, 92. F. L.
AftTHun Matswahing (5**^ S. iL 288, 374.)—
An account of liii life wiU be found in Tkt
Mtmoin of (ht Mt^nhers &ftke Kit- Oat Clnh^ pub-
lished in 1B21 ; Eee ako Noble^s Continufttion of
Granger iiBoe), vol ii., p. S9<).
CfiAKi^Es Wyub.
J, T. Sehrbs (5*^ S. ii. 289, 364, 397):—
'' Thurvdnj difd Dominic Serrfs. Esq., Rot&I Ac^e-
ialGi«n and Marina Piiinter to Hia Mbi«£tf , fiitber of Mr.
SeiTfli, dnwIng-mMter of ibis cit j. He waa que of tbe
fint fort J Miiita wbo eaUbUfibed the AcAdeniy."
The above is copied frc»m tbe Bath dinyiiicle for
tbe Htli of Kovember, 1793, W. R Rujsselu
BatU.
"Tub Butterfly's Ball'^ (3^** S. ii. 327, 352,
372.) — I beg to correct an inaccuracy in my reply
to this query. I wrote hastily, having- just returned
to town. Mrs, Dorset was undoubtedly the
authoress of The BuUerfiifs Ball and Tht Pmcoek
at H&in^j but she wsia 7wt "Charlotte Smith."
Mrs. Smith was her sister, a notice of whose death,
and that of her husband, will be found in the
Ann. E^g.f %\vuL 515 and 563. I believe Mrs.
DorKOt^a maiden name waa Turner. Mj family
waa acquainted with her, and I can just recollect
her in her house in West Street, Brighton.
S. D. S.
There mu^t have been o. perfect mania for imi-
tating Eo^coe's Biiiltrjlfs Ball about the year
1608| for, in addition to those already mentioned,
I have seen The^ Horse- 3 Le^^te, Tht Uliah^s
Juhihe, and The li^cilding of the Flowtn, Most
of them have some clever lines ; but those are
exactly what the children, for whom they profess
to be written, would not be able to see the point of.
P. P.
Bm Edward Hunqerfoed (5^^ S. ii. 229^ 203.)
— Beckjngton will find the old stonr of Sir Edw.
Bungerforti having lived to the age of 115 disposed
of, it was hoped for ever, if he will refer to ** N.
& Q,,'' 4"* S. vL 454. J, E. Jackson
" Lxjcua A HON LucENDO " (5^*^ S. ii, 205, 272.)
— To my mind neither Bit em nor Mr. Charnocs
has hit the blot, I much rather symbolt^ with
f^Aif^ and Middft, They lay, rub tow, " akm \^
Samcnt, root U^ Qt, At^w, scindere ; d, Toll
Eiym. FontK^ i. p. 209. A plae€ deartd 4y mt-
ting, &>G., henoe an ttpen vmod/* In Xtna we get
the religioaa notion = to loose, in the ien^ of
ranitom or redtem :■ —
Ilat^a £f J£Oc XvtraiT€ d>tXnv. ic,t.A.
Whence luctts came to mean a sacred grove — " Jncai
est arborum multitudo cum religione/' om S^rrivM
Matitus explains it.
The quotation from Livy, the wording of whldi
Shem pronounces not "exact,"^ seems to me as
(jcacihi to deacrtbe this IttctiM as the quotatioa
from Cicero has nothing in the world to do wiik
it. Cicero La relating how he found the tomb of
Archimedes at Syracuse, whicbj by long ncgkctf
bad become so overgrown with thoma and bnub-
wood that its very existence was unknown to ftny
of the citizens, upon which he moraJizea in the
usual strain of '^ aic transit gloria muudi/- — " Iti
nobiliaslma Griccioc civitaa, quondam vero etim
doctiAsima^ aui civis unius a^utiBsJini monumentum
ignorasiet, nisi ah hdmine Arpinate didieisset"
Bdmxtkd Tew, M.A
Bedell Family (5**^ S. ii. 8, 334.)-The wfll
of a James Bedell was proved in London oa
January 3, 1574. By It he left some hmd in tbe
village of Duxford, Cambridgeibire, the rent of
which was to purchase herrings to be distribnted
among the poor of the parish in the season of
Lent in every year. The above peculiar charity
was discontinued for about ten successive jeais ;
but ten years ago, through the exertion of some
kind friend of the poor, it was i^ade known to
them and revived. Probably tbe donor may be of
the same family as the Bedells mentioned In the
Pariah Eegiater of Wooton, Beda.
H. C Lofts.
Y. S. M. may add the following entries froai
the Wooton Begisters, co. Bedford, concerning tbe
Bedell fiimily ; —
1570-1. F©b.22, George BedeUs.
16&2. Sept. 24. Marie Bcdclb, daa. of Henrie BedeU^
the jonf^er.
To '^593. Nov. 25. Marie BedelJi ," add d»u. of Geors«
Bedells.
Mar€!i 9. Jane» dan. of Thomas Bedells.
May 7. Wiinfredj dftu* of Tboitiiw Bedelli.
OcL 1. Annj dan. of George Bedelts.
June 3. An^, dun. of Thomas Bedell?.
Oct 10. John, Eon of Thomjis Beadles.
Aug. 9. Sarsh^ dau. of Willm. BedcL
Jfin« 27^ Henrie^ BHran of Hebrio Beadlti.
Feb. 1/. Charitio, dau. of George Beadlet.
Jiily 6. GeoiTgo, son of George Bcailks.'*
" Mavria^ft*
The xxih dale (no month). Willm. Bedlri w:>d
Mary Cartwright.
1592, Jtilj 2£l. Henry Bcdetla and Jaiia Godfree,
1613. Oct m Tubal Griawditch and Suahu Jktlt
15n7*S.
15&8.
um.
1599.
1605.
1607,
161041,
161041
1612.
1570.
•v
419
^'
1600. Mny 25. Eilward, son of Tbomiis Beflells.
1007. April 3, Jaho, eon of Tbonms BedcUfL
1611. >laroh 31. Joan* wife of Geor;;ii Beudlet.
1^12. July 25. Gcorgif, 8oii of George BeudleB/*
D. C. E.
The Cr««eeiil« BcdfofJ.
Tor Arjis of Sir Francis Drake (4*^ 8. xi.
[-4G4, 514; xil 35; 5«*» S. iL 232, 37L)^I am in-
I debted to 8ir Willinm Drake for pointing out that
I was wrong in stating that the ea^'le crest waa
over each of the wyrern shield;*, on the triple
Drake nioniiDient in Musbury (p. 372, ante). I
frhoold hare said, it surmounted a wyvern shield
L fixed against the wall over the monument itself.
^Th« mistuke aroae from my having referred to a
f this shield appended to the entry of the
in my transcript book here, the originiil
s, taken about twenty years ago, being in
waU. After so loog an interyal, my r^coTlec-
ilet^iila was at fault. The eagle crest is
Ion the church plate at Muabury, and abio
'eked in the original visitation of Devon
imi HarL 1163, fo. 22L
Henry H. Drake.
London.
Tub Counts of La nc astro (5*^ S. ii. 3<:^4,)~
The Counts of Lnncastro arc an illegitimate branch
of the Royal Hou&e of Portugal, deriving their
descent fn>m D. George de Lancastro, natural .son
of King John IL
The name was assumed in remembrance of the
•f the Portuguese Royal ftmiily from John
, Duke of Lancaster, through his daughter
i iimp^Ki, vvifo of King John L
The title, then, is not one conferred by ** a foreign
power " " on a British Btibject," nor am I aware
that any " foreign Governments " have been led to
•* take such liberties with us " in any other case. I
may be pirnittted to remind S. that his "kinsman "
8ir Jolin Lawrence is by no means the only person
of whom it may be justly said that " he was apt to
take bis premises for granted, and then build ui>on
thein excellent arguments!" I add an extract
|froin n Portuguese work which refers to the
(object of this reply :— ** Lancaxtro^. Procedom
lei Rey D. Joa6 IL por seu filho D. Jorge de
lAUCii^tro, em quern teve principio a Casa de
Aveiivi, derivando o appellido da Rainha Dona
Filippti, muiher del Rey D. Joa«^ L, fiUia de JoaS,
i>uque dp Lancastro en InghOterra. Usad das
Beaes deste Reyno, com a quebnv de
'" " — XohiliarcJiia roHufjucaa, 1754, page
J. Woodward.
(iosrATnic :;.S"» S, ii. 87, nrK^-The name Croa-
Ipfttric or Cospatric 18 a probable corruption of
Iromef FtUrieiui. In Rymer, Fadera^ Lond.,
1704, torn. i. p. 252, a.d, 1221, Hen. III., under
** De Dote conc-esaa a *Rege : Scotitc sponsre surL*
Johanmv eorori Regis Aoglia*," ooe of the witnesses
h ComiU Patric ; iim\ at p. 374 377, a*d. 1237,
an. 21 Hen, IIL, Put. 21, Hen. IIL, n, 2 d.,
"Omnium quereliirum inter Ari^^lia* ct Scotia*
Reges final is concord! a coram Uttone Cardinal i
Legato apud Eboracum," one of the witnesses is
ComiU Fatrido, R. S. CilARXOCK.
Qraj'a Jon.
lEliitctllAiitaui*
NOTES ON BOOKS, kc.
The Edition of the. Chnat ; its Historic and Literary
Zkx'ctopmait consider td as an Emdcnce of tU
Orifjin. Hic Bumpion LcduTa for 1874, By
the Rev, Stanley lieathes, ^LA, (Rivingtons.)
Where the merits of a work are not a few, as in
this instance, they can only be hinted at in a brief
uotice. The scope of the Preface iilone may convey
<ome idea of the extensive, yet careful, survey of
Christianity which the lecturer has made. That
the distin^iishing mark of Chri.stianity from its
origin has been the belief that Jcbus wha the Christ
ts no mere truism ; the Conception of Christ and
its consequences are involved. The life of Jesua
was adequately to set in motion the machinery
latent in the Christ-conception. Within a period,
of some eighty years, the literary monuments in
proof of this were produced. Such a belief in
Jesus the Christ created the unitpic literature of
the Christian society. A new and original litera-
ture was formed. This is no insignificant pheno-
menon ; Christianity supplanted the dominion of
the Ciesars, and penetrated the whole framework
of society. However unsatisfactory this Christ*
relipon and literature may be deemed by science,
their tremendous consequeneea are facts. In the
long run, the work proves the workman, and this
movement will eventually be found to have had no
inherently defective origin. The effects produced
are beyond human agency, and denumd their own
solution. Kot of human source, they spring either
from Nature or God. If the phenomenon naturally
arises, the Christ-religion h no special exponent of
the Divine will, God and Nature are not con-
vertible terms. If the religion of the Chriat be a
mere expression of natural religion ^ ita founder is an
anomaly in Nature ; it^ mess;ige is opposed to thftt
of other religions. The i>oint of collision is the
central idea of the Christ -religion. The Christ-cha*
racter is not [peculiar to Christianity ; it grew out
of the seed of Judaism. The position daimed for
the Christ- religion is clear. It is not the product
of Nature, though it naturally takes it'^ place
among other religions, being born of one of them,
Mr, Stanley Leathes's Lectures form an able
sequel to his Boylt Lectures, and His method of
argtiment is logical throughout. In parts^ hiii st^le
^m
420
NOTES AND QUEIIIES,
[^••'afi^
is Dot nnlike thnt of Piiley. In thc«e •' Ei^lit
Divinity Lectures to confirm the Clirii?tinii Faith/*
the will of the Rer, Jolin BuniptOQ lins l>c«?n pro*
fouDdly t'urried oiU. It ia in no sniKi-tioinl wiiy
that thr(»u;j;li history, iToctry, and prophecy, (3xforri
men firvve heen led l>y the tii^t CrmiWidge Btimp-
ton Lecturer to dwell thoughtfully on the origiD of
the Christ-rdigion.
Aminea net JHtctjtertd h^ Cotumhu*: a IlittoHcal
Slekh of iht IKHorif of Amtrica htf the Nonttneti in
the Teuth Cctitufu. liy K B. Andcr&ou, A.M., of tho
Uniyersity of WtEConain. With au ApnendiJi on the
Hiat^jncttlr Lmgutstic^ »nd Si^ientiJic Value of tbe
gcaiidiDRvmn LftagUAgcs. (Chicago, Griggs; Loodottj
Triibncr & Co.)
This pleafunt little Yolutne is a %7kltmbtc addition to
Americati hietory* Itf olject U fully d«cnbcd in iU
titl€-pAg«. nud tbe author's iiarTatire is vcrr rriniLrkftblL*.
Ko one, bovevcr^ «Joubtcd tbe lact tbut Atncrican soil
liad been trodden by outsiders befi^re Colon curried out
his project, tbe glory of whicb no one cnn tAmieh.
Even Mr. Anderson eu^geists that the Norsemen maj
not hare been tbe first discoreners. In the year 1029,
Gudlatigson^ a N'orse navigator, bound from Dublin for
Icclaiid, wai driven on to the cast coast of Amcrioa, tb«
people of wbiuli {sayx Mr. AndGrAOU) " rather appeared to
them' {the Nur3eroan':5 crew) '*that they spoke IriahJ*
A iag», wc ore told, nffirmi that this part of the con-
tinent Wfift then called *' Irtand edh Mykla/' that i»,
"Great] ' ' ' ' ' ' ■ ' I intry had been colo-
nised ]. t." The book ia full
of feitni '. . „ 1 it wDl be read with
Bomething like wuiideriaent.
The Loit of thi Dingmiwakn, A Paper read to the
Eeewick Literary Society, By J, F- Crostliwaite,
(Cockermouth, Bailey.)
Mn. CTio>TBWxvm:'s paper is full of mntter which
demand? and wins the uttno^t eympatli\% und it ia
rendered doubly interesting by its pictoriaf illus^trationA.
It should be bound up «vith any hi£tory of the event of
which Lord Derwcntwattr >va* one of the tiutima. We
add to these few word^ a comxuuniciitiou, from a wdl-
known corrrsDondent of '*K» k Q^/* inrhicb is clontly
connected with the subject :—
*' Dii>To?r Hall, NoRXHrMBfRLAMj. — The Lord* of
the Admiralty^ as C'ommiSBionens of Grecnwi'^h llrt<»|ntul,
having trranbed to Lord Petre, the direct : i vc,
in the feiuate line, of the chivalrou* aud i I of
Derwvntivatcr, pemLission to remove the i ; hlg
ancestnrsfromtneir family vault at Dihton, hia Lurdebtp
hits remoTcd tbe body of Jam*' a, third Earl, to Tliorndun
Halt, £seex, and has placed the bodies of the t)rst ivfo
Earls, and of three members of the family, ia a new
TuuU in the Ciitholic cemetery at Hesilmui.
**T}ie hbtorio domain of Diklon, with its grey,
shattered ruin and romantic stream, the Devirs
(1^'^" " i Water, hai since been | ' ' Tiy W. B,
li' : q., MJ'. for South ? riand, by
Tkj iind all itibabitants iii lile" the
trikdiU'ijei u)kd aiEoeiaiions connected vuth thi. trlacc will
be alike preserrcd and venerated. J. AlAjfLXL,
" Newcastle-upon-Tyne,'*
Scripture Provtrls, JUuitraiedt AimotaUd^ andAppU^
B,v Francis Jacox. (Ifodder k Stoughton.)
Mr, Jacox bo well deacrilei his own method of work in
this volume, that we cannot do better than ttanscribe It
**A test is taken, and in the illmtrationi, annotations,
atid app'icsttitins which he piH»cced<« to nccuntti?At9 tipii« |
it . * . lie aliowi hiinBclf fruch Irihtil* a* ^
Sicmitigly to get out of li
tonuitude as may tie ^ot mit
rather than - - - « : ^<
this very r^
They i»ho
acquriinttincc, 'llity \%iiu h^^vv uvt ili^t Lnw^kd^ '
dw well to t>egin it in Hci^fdutt l^yvrfrtoM*
Hatotrc dc At L-itUro
Par Odys^e Barot.
We are able to ^^ f'
blind-book to rao "
plete view of c^".
r ■ .' ■ •
U ■..:-^ . .. ■......._, :.,- V ^ . .^ . ^, .r^sli
tion. The imm^lator would, probably, be i»ctter ihti
to do justice to theology than would the author.
3cti€ti to Corrrif^otiOfttti*
C P, E, writes:— "Some months ago, a wtiirr in i
Ottardian newspaper opened the qiK-.! inti r.f tlu- n>t.tli.r
pronunciation of Latin ; has it occ i
ninU nmy be gained from the i
Abp. Trench's interesting little v^ Jume] Uif'»u^3j tiit
rhymes and icttu f *'
IsTfER OiTAnr.^In 1776, the Frc —>--=' ''-
in Queen Street* Lincoln's Inn Fi
Lord Pet re, the Omnd Master, mu
Mr* Charles Masoh {P, ST7, '- f arts Pnson*^
Untlv points out, on behalf of Mns^ M. Va9 Br
P. P' (p. 897) was ntiticipatcd by that hidy (p*
rclVTritig to Maxime da Camp as an authority Ui \m t
suited on Paris prisons
K. W. CoRLASs.— Cler. ParU Doro. Com. == *
Bouse of Commons. The House of Corom^'
licences for new inventions, which, at well as ttictr unkcv ]
were signed by the Clerk of the Uuuse.
C. O, B.,— ' Field 'M5'''S, ii ""
" Tlie Sanscrit personified m
<Ms Parthivi, the feminine su'
broad, and might tie rendered ' Tho Lrui»d Uiiw.
BttLTHORN.— Vou had better take the advice ofonetl _
the many leading London publishers, and consnU A~
drawing master.
W. BiscoE (Exhall P ti . . t _ r _ ., , ...
ntjw ret timed- It is n
in CrtfHweWs Lcikrs «
W. 8. 8,— The ITamUl might be of some rmlue. "Gm
second named piny is more doubtful.
a W\ W. (P. 370),^ We have a letter for Jim.
P. J, M.^Drawn = diflpmho welled.
LL, — Tliey were contemporaries.
A. L, MAYHtw.— Received.
Editorial Communications should be ftddreasod t^
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Puhli^lier "—at the Office, 20, WeUingtoti 8tr«tl^
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municationa which, for any reason, we do nAi|iriut ; and
to this rule wo can mitke no exception.
To all communications should be affixied the nams tod
address of the sender, not necessarily for piibliatis% ^
as a guarantee of good fiwUi
|6»9wILKov.28, 74.)
NOTES AND QUERIES.
421
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LOifiHjX, $dTLRD4.l\ NOyMUBSR 11, W74.
CONTENTa— N- 4S*
.Tb0 OipiiAM, 421 ^Tho Frar Mmiri, 422 — Tbe
it of Ee4-06»ts Gre«n, 42;J-ReWgioti» Ecbmn FalnUy
Itoud ia Kiintry StoHc*, 421^Tluffe Pedigico— FngmcotATT
lines of Poeirr wcrib«d to Barus, 4^— UibeniA, lilshop of
EKiisr— IroD tn OaJc— English Words In X7lst«r— TouchlDg
iet th9 Kiag't Eril ~ '' wut«-Tlfr ** — '* TI» £ad jusUfiei
tbm M«uii "^Tbo Kcfjal Veto, 420.
r'""" "l, SeutpUl ;the Sarn*Di«1— Bugbj, or Bug-
Jy Reoordi, drc + Enuraved on Cotos, 4L'7—
*i of Alexitndtir, Itlacuof LivotiU— Welsh
l'».n*u Kiyistur* -Aacicnt (Iraols of Luid bj PortupiCAo
J^ntlUiltUvi In ludiA— *"rha UuUerift "— MtiJIlbg Knocker*
wlUi Kid r.lovi»-<iilb«rt WhlUt, of S«lbonie— The I^ng
FafUtineoi. 42S-31o£roUut : Sir T. L»irr«jce— "The New
Btoto of ElMfUed, lODl ' — ir««bf, 429.
:— " Hoc ot dljdt»" ic. iSncerlng), 459 — D»ntc and
otkton, 430 -H«gLfial(I, Count dc Vulletorta, 431—
st€oiler in England-** A ulrt Robin Grjiy "— Clock-
Abb«)n mtl Duties of ScolLnDd. 432— Tli« Arms of
I Bnumlull And Mar^sebon — TIm LAte Jobn
▼eniMiitti-Centiirj Token*— Th« "Calentunatt^*
^Mad«nt Account of ScotUnd" — Huguenots. 433 —
let of the Pliftmo1t»— SoiDUter ftod KelUnd FjunlUei—
of Mtrtbotongb «od Qaeeo Anne— ConxiderAtloo«—
Murii^f of the DuJu of CumbitrUtid. 1772 : Biguriety,
'Otberwtiilei''— MoTftble Flgwcaln Book&-" Wh&t b
* I •— ** D««mdflr ol the F»ilh;' 436— Spelling Rcformi
"^aoefc^BeTOQt— Symbol tu j^talned Glau. 436-
tbe Mnk"^" Pctroalm Arbiter "—Seal in Two
"HUi wotld I deem/' *o.— "Bonnie Dnnriee'*—
9* Bhjuter "»** ToQch not the Cot/' &c— The EAily
iglith Odd traction for Jesus— The Nune Jenifer— Geo-
r mphicfti^ 437— Prvncb Pronnnciation— Peculiar Treatment
of Wordi, &:e.— Kiehard Sirift, Bbetiff of London- The Ber,
Tlioe. G abb- An AmsTie^a Eulogy on Women, i3g,
]f otea oo Books, &e.
jlotrtf.
THE GIPSIES,
8 80LM /idjiT in ii pul)li cation so much
cted V I ind as Ohambero's Enajclo-
Iwr^ tLat iiu ' lln^of** Gipsies" a grettt
iiniber of the \ mixi and other mimes of
. people shouin rnj u^ivuii, to the extent of about
or t^renty, and reaching as fhj east an
t..^ Tr.ii., ,.r.ji yf^i ^,jj^^ of thcixnamea in
wa name ; it may^ indeed, be
^' m timt country, ^is omitted.
ne : r ]jat of the Cairds or Carda.
iir fj _; til iippear as afflicted to any
I witii Scotch or British narrow- mind ednea*,
'cannot lielp thinking that, while we .^eem,
3gin^ from meeting* of Orien twists and otber-
to 1>> mucb taken up with Sanscrit and
* I'lnguoges, and most justly so, we
:^i that the United Kingdom is a
Coring its size, ia uneqmilled
ill tlie worlcj, for its own in-
it does, so
, namely,
\r '. i.u'in' Mr ni-,ii, iitji] lUo Welsh*
► iriJl yet be acen, when the matter h rightly
' .t M,.. vocables of these language's,
0 known as proper names,
i^..,, Ijerhaps li^ '>r '" / ^^ ''?^ho-
ritatively, a.^ tho^e of any language whatever, not
excepting the Sanscrit, on the history and prugre&s
of mankind ; and the name of Cai»"^ > ill y«t l>e
seen to be as important as any in poi . g out who
the gipsies really {ire.
But in Scotland the gipsies had anoU er naine^-
a name also not mentioned in the Encydoptrdia.
But this is not so very aurprising, as, so far as I
know^ it has long been obsolete ; though when
rightly viewed it will also be seen to be as im-
port4;4nt as any in determining who the gipsies are.
The name now referred to is that of the Faas. In
Lowland Scotch, as your readers are pnibably
aware, ball Is pronounced ba*, call, ca\ faD, fa', It^dJ,
ha\ and so on ; and it is thought that they will thus
concede that Faa was, in oli probability, contracted
from Fall or PhaL 1 would here remind your
readers of the interesting old ballad oi Johnnie
Faa and Lady Casiillis. The unfortunate hero of
the ballad has tdways been recognized as having
been a gipsy ; and it was no doubt the fact that
he was so that gave to our remote ancestors their
chief element of interest in the baOad.
Then there are other two names, or modifications
of one and the same name, used in Britain, which
I have always imderstood to denote the gipsies^
namely, the Scotch name of ** the Tinklcn^" and
the English name of " the Tinkers.-' Of neither of
these names is any mention made in the Eiwydth
pctdia, I do not suppose that any one doubts that
theae names denoted the gipsies. The Welnh
language has tinker in the form of thice^ml The
last syllable, cemi^ is evidently the Scottish caird.
In Highland Gaelic^ caird occurs in the fortii of
ceard ; and I presume it will also be found tcj exist
in the Irish dialect of the Gaelic. Be that as h
may, the extensive prevalence of the word ctrtrd in
its different forms aa a name of the gi|>^ies is
beyond dispute from what is clearly ascertained.
Tinker being thus a name of the gipsies, there
can be no doubt of the truth of the statement
which has been made (and there is no reason why
we should doubt its truth) that the tinker, John
Banyan, the author of T/ws Pihjrim'$ Frogrtu^ was
a gipsy by extraction. Thus our brethren the
gipsies have the honour of having produced one of
the moat religious, one of the most instructive, and
one of the most popular writers that Great Britain
ever jjiiw — a writer whose works will always possess
undying interest. And it may also be mentioned
that in the present daj'' we have, in ScotUmd, two
men of very high and acknowledged ability, whoso
patronymic clearly denotes the same descent. In
point offact, there can be no do' : V i
whom we styie the gipsies p<j
equal to tho^e of any other H»'rii<ni oi ui»^ timinu
race, let it K^ caUe*! by what mune, and let it be
as ^^If-conceitcd as it may.
In the reign «C Jatft^i^ \. ^l %tti\XxvTy5)i, v^ ^
fifteenth cenUiTy, ^ \\\?^tk mm^t^^^^i^ v:.^^^^^^'^
422
NOTES AND QUKRIES.
15^* a It. Kor. 5S» Vl
Is stated by the hiBtomns to haye been a
Eohcminn, was burnt at St. Andrews for heresy,
whatever tli^S in his case, might mean. Now, we
know that , Prench name of the gi|>?fieB is
Bohhnuiis; a it is thought that we are therefore
justified in in iring that the utifortunnte man was
a gip^, this Lonclusion being confirmed by other
consideratioDH, into which we cannot now enter.
Further, in direct connexion with John Bunyan
and Paul Craw, and their doings, we would aak^
iVho vfQte the Lolkrda originally ? The origin of
thi^ name has been a great puzzle to etymologiBts.
Ib not the name a contraction of Loll-curds, mrd
having been contracted into aTd, in the same wny
08 guard liaa been contracted into icardf The
syllable Loll may have originated from the appa-
rently idle life led by the cards or gipsies. On
these grounds, niuat we not conclude that the
gipsieii were, at least originally, those who are
known in history as the Lollards?
The relative term, the Huguenots, need to denote
in France thobe who were termed Lollards in
r Britain, has nho been a perfect puzzle to etymo-
^logisti?, yet it ia belicvett it might be traced as
I lin^'ing originally denoted the gipsies, but the doin^'
of this must bfi deferred in the meantime,
In confirmation of what has now been stated in
the last four paragraphs, I may l>e allowed to make
tlie following ^hort quotation from a writer in
[ Jiht^^kwood'g Miiga::iney in a comnuinication entitled
i ^ On the Gipjiiea of Hesse Darmst.idt,'^ in the nura-
laer for January, 181 S, page 410. It b there said—
*• It U Qot the Icftfet puizling ^jurt of the gipiiea' history
to find timt, on their Tcry fir*t appearanco in all eoontries
in Europe, what little religion the/ had amongst them
Wfti founded upon the Christian <loctrine/'
To guard agninst misconception, I must here
state that I quote this passage merely to show that
I 'the gipsiea were Christiitns. The writer depreciates
> ttinount of their religion at the time referred
ttf the fifteenth century ; that is, it is to be sup-
fwiiedj the amount of their j^radiail religion. But
jhad any other people ony more then, or even so
r^uch i Practical religion, generally, has been
•onoe in all ages. £ven in '' religtouB ' Britain, in
tllBTiineteonth century, ia the amount of practical
naligion m great i Are there in Britain no munlers,
assaults, thefts, and other shortcxfuung^ even now,
and were there none in 1818, when the depreciatory
llcmark under consideration waa written I It is
iirprising how people living in glass houses will
Dsisfr on throwing stones. The same writer in
Bhckirood hold wliHt may be termed the old
orthodox view, that the gipsies came into Europe
'in or about the fifteenth centtiry ; but my rernarki*
in this and on certain othi^r points must l>e reserved
for a future communication, when I shall lay before
your reailers conclusions regarding the gipsies con-
oid e/ably diHtrent^ «40 far as I am aware, from
Uiose hitheriv enlQvUuneil. Hen ut Kilo our, ^
THE FOrE MARYS.
The list line in Mr. Swinburne*? tr
Both well is a declaration by one of the ton
attendants on the Ijueen ol Scots : —
*' Maf^t /?<a^<>»,— But I will ncTcr leare you till I i
Should not Maiy Scyton iuivc bajtl
honour assigned to her ? She apjM.
been the most devoted of the quxiU*
beauties, the chosen iissociates of the
France, and who returned with ^
Tliey were all of noble faniibes, n
age (as was also the Queen), an
till past their twentieth year were
panionsk Mary Beaton seems '
most literary or scholarly of tht.^
the *^>ueen made her will, iiiitn.
birth of her son James, wbili
jewels to all the four, she i
Beaton her French, English, and lt4ilia;^
Hence Mr. Swinburne, with dramatic
makes Mary Beaton dtBCOur&e learnedly wj
Knox. It is interesting to trace the foB
the fair bftnd of Marys, and we are able 1
by means of the ma^sterly Introduction bvj
Mr, Joseph Kobe rtson preliv
natyne Club quartos, The
Quetn of ScQtf^ 1843. It ap|
Beaton (or " ISIaric Bethune/' ;
name}, ahout five years after L*
land, became the wife of an Ab«
Alexander Ogilvy, of Boyn^v
royal mistress and all her
Court, dying i«i ir>(H,— nh
poor Queen h.
on the block ai
(*' Marie Leuieon ; ram
March (J, 1564-5, John
progenitor of a line of ScuitisU pu4tK Jfh
terina this pair "John the Dmrcr * nrifi^
the Lii«ty," and hints at c*
have been fully displayed.
bride a dowry in land, furtiinli* a Lcr biiiU
and gave a masque in honour of the
This Mary was living in 1 ' ' '
" the Dancer,'' had died thin
date, (3). Mary Fleming ■, .>i
settled down as the wife of an old
suitor, Secretary I^IaitUnd, of L
had previously captivute^i the
Thomas Kandolph,^ — nn jnniisnu'
to whom we owe mari>
Scottish Court, — who t i
a fit match to contend with V enu
Minerva in wit, or with Jniv* in \
to the jcwcIh and
ma?quo, Sccretaij
be in love are ever itet iipi-a .i .
fnl axiom by the way, for '
anxious (w too ecstatic to be
t<!^VTdin^ this old phniae, *' ■■
NOTES AND QUERIES.
^-jt^ ■" '♦•"1 frum that curious storehouse
Ki ^, Fuller** C^wrc^ Hutory,
Pi, ^ , nynml of tlie clergy nil d Id ty
I of Hcnrr I. (a.d. 1 102)^ nt whidi^ amonff
-'- t ri.i 'tinont^, priests wert' pjt)hibited
:\^^ i.t, dtlakhii^ out of a cup
pinii, *'lie bcinjj accounted
Uiuu wUn eotilil itirk the pin, drinking
ir^ Trherciis to no above ar below it wus a
:^ But to re turn t<» ihe four Marys*
\f i}\\^nj after ChJistellard's outrage in
!> uns4ifo to sleep alone, she chase
,->v her be*lfi^lli>w. And the Litter,
i.iMic dc Lethington," did not forget the
I adversity. She found meADis to convey
^ in Lochleven Ciistle, a ring with a
ffig the Queen with hopes of e^-
. Mr v^iiting was ane fable of Esop, b^-
inouae and the lion ; how the mouse for
II r.- rionr- fr> hcT by the lion, after that,
; with une cord, the mouse
r he lion loose.'* But Fortune
imile on either mouse or lion ! Mary
like Ker mistress, had m^ny troubles*
)and^ the able and scheming Secretary,
[lately for and against the Queen — public
r isecret supporter. Ultimately^ when the
s hoj>elcsa, he was chief leader of the
|>rtrty, was declared a rebel, deprived of
, cast into prison, and died (in 1573,
Queen was immured in Sheffield Castle),
houl a suspicion that ho * took a drink
*■ old Romans were wont to do."*
xf long unburied, for it was then
vnil, in cases of treason, tlmt the
'. L* for doom against a dead man,
, t^.vri.i.M.i iQ court ; and Lething-
:ifter the death of her
.^.y to Burleigh, that the
[»A r husband might ** suffer no
* f' emitted to the tomb. The
rstA CTnnted, Queen Elizabeth having
\^ and »ome ye*'\rs afterwards the widow
ft reversial of his forfeiture. (4). Mary
Mnrie de Seton ") waa the only one of
u^aidfl that remained unmarried. She
M hi»fsdf to a life of celibacy, but re-
I thirty-five : —
end your Life,
I iiiuK i.uL ui Lijuiv-five."
f. Samuel Johnson^ and so apparently
fr.,^.,. ,i,v <. f,.^ She sought release from
jg, but it was too late.
....-A. ^la^ster of the Queen's
; >Liry continued, perforce,
'^i\ For fourteen yeaxs she
ii-iile of the Queen in England,
i to a convent in France — HU
llij' nti;5 — ^vhere she ended her days.
he iiUl*' <iriima of the four Mark's waa
closed* Mr. RuMril.iHit.^ lias Mary Carmichael
among his Jr<r <iut^ for which he has the
authority of a ^ : i^I balkd :—
*' Yeatfcen the Queen had four Maryf,
Thij night «lie '11 hae but three ;
There wr* Mary Beaton ani M&rjrdefttoDi
And Mary Carmichael and me/'
But Mary Carmichael has no place in authentic
hbtory. Mr, Burton, in his JIutonj of Seothmlt
starts a point worthy perhaps of consideration in
** N. & Q." John Knox reports several interviews
between himsidf and Queen Mary, in which the
stem old Reformer umlertook to show very phi inly
how the Church of Rome had declined from the
ancient purity, and bow deficient Miury was in
"right knowledge." Now, were these dialogues
held in the language in which Knox reports them?
Mary, acconiiag to the historian, had very little
English ; her habitual language was French, and,
as Knox was sometime in Fnince and preached in
French, Mr. Burton concludes that the diidogues
were in that language, and that Knox afterwards
wrote them out in English, or rather Scotch. I
doubt this conclusion. Knox, I ihinkf would have
told his readers if such had been the cose. Did
Mary ever lose her Scotch ? She was approaching
seven yeara of age (six yeara eight months) when
she sailed, from Scotland, for France j her four
Marj*8 were Scotch girls, like herself ; and, though
all remained twelve years in Fmncc, they must
have kept up the old childish Scotch Btories in the
old speech, and, when they returned to Scotland,
the Queen and attendants would natumlly resume
the vernacular which they heard daily around
them in Court and society. 0.
lavemefls.
THE HERMIT OF KED-COAT'8 OREEX.
A most interesting biographical sketch of this
reraiu-kable individual, from the pen of Dr* D. H.
Tuke, will be found in The JourmU of MftUal
Seime^ October, 1874, pp. 301-372, of which I
present the following short abatrnet.
James Lucas, the so-called Hermit of Red- Coat's
Green (and the object of Charles Dickens'i vigorous
denunciations in Ttym Tiddler a Ground), was bom
in 1813, and was the son of an opulent West India
merchant residing in London. He manifested
considenible eccentricity of dress and manner
during his youth,
Af^r his father's death, in 1830, the £imily
removed to the house in which the Hermit over
afterwards lived and died, situated at Red-coat*s
Green, near Hitchin, Hertfordshire.
It was not until after his mother^s death that
his hermit-life began ; previous to which we fiiid
hira hunting occasionally in a most extraordinary
costume, — * he rode either with his shirt outside,
or in a nankeen suit, barefooted, and wearintg a
small cap, ^pt b«kTe-V!ieeA«i^ \ca W% xeml^s^ \sfl^
424
NOTES AND QUERIES
streaming in the wind/* with a rope for hla bridle
and stirrups. Alxmt thiii time he felt a passion
for a young lady, which, onfortunately for him, she
did not reciprocate.
On the death of his mother he kept her body in
the house from 24th October, 1849,io the January
of 1850. Each day he woidd stvy she nu'ght be
buried to-morrow* He spent the greater part of
the time be4jide the oorpse. At last hia brother,
as executor, interfered, and insisted upon the body
being interred.
For a quarter of a century after Uib mother's
death Mr. Lucas continued to live alone in the
same house (his brother and sisters could not stay
in it), which, iw you approached it, told a t^le
respecting the occujmnt. Every window, ond even
the doors, were carefully bnrriciwled, and the house
was allowed to f?o to raok and ruin. So was the
garden. Br. Tuke says : —
'* When I paid the hermit a vlfit some yenra nvsn, I
went up to the window of frUat had been the kitcbtn^
[ the gliLBJ^ and cajmment of whkh hud Umg dianppeurcil,
the fltrcmg upright iron tnra alone romniniug. Here the
poisesKor of ample means, and a «mn of at lei*t fair
educatioiij lived iIaj tmd ni^bt. Ue appcHred ta emerge
£rom m bed of ashei (he had not ilept in a bed for inatiy
[|eara). ... Hia oapect woa quite m keeping with lus
abode. Unnafihoii for ni^^iiy yeurg, bis vkin vras iiol in a
deiirable eondition. . . . Clothes be bad none, only a
dirty blanket thrown looaely over hiin. ... In the room
were a fire, an old table, and numoFou« hottiea. There
W10 aleo a chair, and I uriderativnd ihat a basket waa
tutponded froui the ceiling', in ivhich he kept hia food,
. to protect it from the rata which uboanded in hia estab-
[ Kibmcnt.
" He spoke to mo in a low, rather plaintiTe tone of
voiee. and gave me tlie im predion that ho wai labouring
under a certain amount of fear or appreheuidon. Part of
his conversation, which othcnvi^e waa perfectly ratiotiali
conveyed the same iniprcsaion/* . . .
Lucas was not by any means a miser. He was
visited by swarms of tramps, to wbom he gave a
great deal away in coppers, as well ns gin. It is
f tftid that on laat Crood Friday he dolod out sweet-
meats, eoppera, and gin and water to 200 children.
For some years he gave a poor old woman in the
neighbourhood fonr shillings a week.
His own diet was very simple, though he did
not starve himself. He ate brearl and cheese, and
reil herringB^ and drank both niiJk and gin. He
avoided milk for some time, suspecting that it
I might contain poison. At one time he charged a
"fiirmer, who supplied him with eggs, with having
put poison into th^m. The same fear of poison led
tim to change his baker frequently^ and he cat^c-
fully selected a loaf. In his room was foimd nearly
a cJirtload of hard unused loaves, which it ia sup*
posed he Jsunpected of containing poiaon, and durst
not use.
Mr. Lucas died of apoplexy^ at the age of aixty-
one yeai-;i, on the llith April last ; and there is
reason to suppose he drank largely of gin the even*
iDg before his death, after feelmg mucri depresaed.
A gentleman, who saw him a week before
death^ infonns me that he appeared in bis '
hotdth, and in fact ver^' lively and comnmiucQidvie^
He behaved most politelv, and did not betr»y j
unfriendly spirit or delusion in regard
friends.
One singular trait deserves notic*. He i
not attach his name to any <leed or ptiptrr
Her Majesty's stamp, the reason aMigfued h^iii
that she was not the rightful heir to t!i«'
Nothing would induce him to use
or receipt st^rap, lest he should Sf i
Queen's supremacy. He even u! inrt?
money (the proceeds of a aale of > t^ |
perty of his under the coujpul»ury clau^^
Liverpool Improvement Act) to lie in the i
England to the day of hh def»tb, a« drai
out would have required a stamped receipt
Huan James Fekxi^u. 1
HaTelock Square, Dablln,
EELIGIOrS ECHOES FAINTLY HEARD O
NURSERY STORIES.
Those persons to whom modern Hebrew detl
tional book.s are well known are i
parable contained in one of these 1 i ]
is sung on the first night of the i n^sove
story of Juda?a is here figured, or, as son
the leason that Death has no victory is hm\
in at least a remarkable manner. How Ioqj; 1
IcFSuii has been taught in this w>^' ■ " "Mtifffl
for others. When it slipped out
into one of the commonest of nui.^. . .^_. u^is loLi
for the delight of babies, is a matter tbftl M
interest the curious. The following vertioni""'
opening Passover song is one which we findf
by the Rev. G. P. Grantham, in the No
number of the Yorkshire Magazine : —
" One only kid, one only kid, whif^h mr fatlitrl
for two Kuzim; one only kid» on.
"And a cat came and deTo :
father bonght for two zuxim ; ouu ...
'' And a dog came and bit the cut, v
the kid, which my father l>ought iV inj; i
only kid, one only k id.
" Then a stnff came, and smote thfi dog, wliicii 1
bitten the cat, which had devoured thi
father bought for two zujim; one on'v
'" Then a fire came, and burnt tb -
smitten the doc which had bitten the
devoured the kid, which my futhcr
zuzim ; one only kid, one only kid,
" Then water carae, and extir
liad burnt the Btaff, which hnd
bad bitten the eat, which had ik-^^unu tp.o niA
my father bought for two vuziai ; oao only kid. ant. i
kid.
"Then the ox cajn
extinguished the fii' T.^
hnd iiTjittcn the ' - i, i vmll ii -,.. _- < ,.i tthH
deroured the ki futhcr booglit far twi> I
one only kid» oi
" Then the Blftu^iLteixi' tame, *
which had drunk the Kaier, wln^
cut, wi
bought
HoT.SS^TI.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
426
hft^l burnt ibe sUff, wbtch liad sniitt«n Ibe
inm the c^t, wlitch had devoured the
-r Ijoughl for two zii2im ; one ooJy
(^iitltel of dettth came. Arid liew the tUught-
m tl««jrhtered the o^c, which bad dnink tbd
" ilre^vrbicb had burnt
s, which had bitten
^^,, . ^ „...„.- .:.. a J, which my father
nro Buzim : ona onij kidt one only kid.
toe the >!rt«t Holy* blesied be He, and slew
!>]..'.' had slain the slaughterer, who
ti , which hod drunk the water,
txt ^ ; the lire, which Imd btinit the
bati »miiteu ibo dog, which hod bitten the
bad dcTourcd the kid, which my fiither
iTvo cozim : one only kid, one only kid.
etcrciM} tbi« for the ingenuity of thoie who
r -nvtr uht ulth their a/rwMA //i«to}'y, aud
and * witty inventions * ;
^'iving Ibe most commonly
A:i]ncLai.j,uu iji Liiia inyit^riQus fHirable/'
Ed.
PiLt>tatiitE. — In the tabiUated pedigreeii
' ' ' in the "Ulster^'
7 of the Family of
miLiv pniin u ^11 > i* tina in 1856. there
imi»*iiona which should b^ noticed.
13 to 1626^ the rlestTndunts of the
not traced : Richard (eldest son),
ichnnl^ Georfre, Nicholas (<» p. /),
n Stephen of K-dlybnigan had pro-
son besides Peter. This PeteT was
lolijfl, but hivd he no other son I The
ler of (1) Christopbep (the elder), and
Hrbo married Anna Plunket. But the
ita of Chriiitopher are not traced, nor are
licir brother (3) Laurence. Possibly the
8 the progenitor of Stephen Taalfe, of
WD, who mentions his "father, Laii-
bill will (1730)* Luurenci* Taiifle waa
■ I in l<i24.
mclinpd to believe that Luke
*' i ly of James 11., had a
!d Tantfc who appears
opber, eon of James
ii, i>ui his de^ceudants are
have been the Christopher
. T. .s A,ii,M>^ H-nrv .nd
.:.rd
.. i^--^ -. . -... be-
tgoods to TbcoVmhi I'liiitle, son of
Miy. (!hr ^r.n ..r (;<-ri:i\ Hu:
it I do
y iul^, dJed
( bad tlute
soDKf Luke, Theobald, and Charles, bitt their de-
sccndiints are not fihown.
Again, it i» not probable tbat| In four generations,
there should be only one son to carry on the line,
yet we find it so stated in the case of Luke (eon of
John Taaffe, of Ballybnigan, and bis wife Anna
Plunket), father of thriutopher^ father of Luke,
father of Abel,
Finally, there are many Taaffes conspicuous in
the R. Caccell. Hib., &c., who were in possession
of well-known Tmife estates, who are omitted, and
these were connected with the PlunkeU, Dowdalb,
Donellys, &c.
Of the other TaafTes connectetl with Jamaica,
Arthur had an only son named George, and his
brother, the Ker. Henry Tiuitfe^ had four sons,
viz., Arthur, John, Richartl* Tbomivs. Arthur and
Henry were the sons of Cliristopher and Anne^
whereas Michael Taaife, of Jamaica, wn« the son
of CbrLatopber and Mary.
I do not think that there are any traces of theie
eons of Henry Taiiffe in that island, and am dit*
posed to believe that their descendants are, at the
present moment, in Ireland, but imrecognized.
It h frequently ditBcult to obtain information in
the pure spirit of genealogy, for this reason, that
those who posseijs it either retpiire to be paid for
it, or fear that some sinister motive is at the
bottom of the int|uiry. I can well understand
both diflTiculties— 1 &t^ in the case of one who is
simply a genealogist and no more, and 2nd, where
an mheritanee descends without an accurate pedi-
gree*
In the famUy of Ta4iffe, the head of the bouse
amassed a large amount of property by beinc
gmnied the escheat of his kinsman's forfeitea
estates about the end of the seventeenth century.
In this wav, probably, a great deal of genealogiwil
confusion has arisen, and perhaps nothing ^ort of
an exhaustive investigation of the public archives
of Ireland, and also of private numinient.*i, wotdd
be Buffieient for the purpose of con^itnictinga rcaUij
valuable pedigree or this ancient family. S.
P.S. I merely throw out these suggestions with
a view of inducing others to complete so valuable
a pedigree.
FRAQMET^TAny Lt^VS OF POETRY ASCRIBED TO
BrnKs.— It is well known that Burns used to be
*be hou^e of ^^f-
w his »•'
voice. I!
in the paii.^h at
FKiU for th.
purpose of
with her
I've, and
rved
•fher
win? l"ri' -, v.hiph
Itich she btiiieves l»o be fcomo
I give tbetu as they wore
m ittU ill a h.*^iui Tttary ^tyle to my friend Dr.
GricMon of Tbombil!, waH known to all in the
Moiitb of r i^tiii
fortheral ^fe^^^
426
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*8.II.Kov.2S.7i
and which may be regarded as a moil el provincial
museum. The followinfr are the fragments : —
" The house, that was my father's ain,
Is leveU'd wi* the breckun."
And again : —
"O wliere shall I go hide my hcadi
0 where shall I go wander ?
0 where shall I go beg my bread?
For here I '11 bide nac langer."
Now, as Mrs. Flint possessed a retentive memory,
and sung many old Scottish bidlads, I think that
some of your correspondents, who are well ac-
quainted with the eany lyrics of Scotland, will be
able to show that these lines are found in some
ancient song. Mrs. Flint, popularly known as
Kirsty (Christina) Flint, died m her seventy-second
yeiir, 4th February, 1838. It was Mrs. Flint who
got the cliair on which Bums had been nursed
from his mother, when she was leaving Dining
farm, and which is now at Mansfeld, near New
Cumnock, the scat of the late Sir James G. Stuart-
Menteth, Bart. G. T. RAMAaB.
OsBERNE, Bishop of Exeter. — A note relating
to a grant said to be signed by Leofric as Bishop
of Exeter in 108.") (n*** S. ii. 304) leads me to
observe that in a public document of much interest
and importance, given by William of Malmesbury,
namely, the order of the great Council held at
Windsor on the feast of Pentecost, 1072, appears
tho signature — "+ AV;o Osbcrmts Exoniensis Ejns-
copua connnaiy This, I think, would prove that
Leofric could not then hold the Bishopric.
In reference to Bishop Osbert, or Osberne, I
should like to ask whether he was not the same
person as Osbcrnus, the Precentor of Canterbury
and biographer of St. Dunstau, who is described
by Pitsci, cirai lo74, as the intimate friend and
councillor of Archbishop Lan franc, and who is
stated to be an Englishman i I do not find any-
thing proving this to be impos^iibIe or even impro-
bable. Edward Solly.
Sutton, Surrey.
Iron in Oak.— The frequent effect of lightning
upon thi.>5 monarch of the forest has excited the
attention of the philosophic mind. After citing
several exami>Irs of the manner in v,'hich the oak
has been singled out from other trees immediately
acyoining, and of equal height, a wTiter upon the
subject says ; —
'' It is well known by chemists that oak contains a
considerable portion of iron in its composition. This
metal, it may be prc-iimc<l, is held in solution by the sap,
and equally disihbutcl throuj^hout the whole tree. May
it not be owin;; to this circumstance that the ouk is so
frequently a victim to that power, which in fact it
solicits with extended arnw, to its own destruction i*'
If the above be true, it Ls worthy of notice.
Fredk. Bule.
Af/lXT Engllsh Words is Ulster are used in
sem^e.^ wholly different from their c&ta>)\\ftV\edT[v^\.\T.-
ings. Thus I have heard it said of a charitable and
bountiful lady, who was, of course, beset by beg-
gars, " she is pdluled with them," meaniDg merely
that they crowded about her. Poor persons,
though of good character, if they become mendi-
cants, are said to be "profligates." Diseases are
often called by names of quite difierent ailments,
e.g.y a catarrh is called founder. A diseoiie not
infectious in cattle is called murrain. A poiofol
disease of fenuiles is called a weed ; and an inflsmod
sore a rose. B, T. P.
Touching for the Kino's Evil. — This certi-
ficate, if not unique, is at least curious, and nur
be found enibaluied in the old register of V^atahA,
near Leek : —
^'To the King's most excellent Miyesty.
** We, the Minister & ChurchwardenB of the ptiuh of
Waterfall, within your county of Stafford, doe berefaj
certifie your princely MiycBty that Alice Smyth, tM
daughter of Edward Smyth, of Waterfall aforesaid,
yeoman, hath not at any time lieretofore had the Mcred
touch of your Sacred Mi^sty, to the Intent to be heded
of the Disease called the Kmg's evil ; ha^iog fint cue-
full^ examined into the truth thereof, as toot graciooi
Majesty of your Royal will & pleasure hath late^ eno*
manded us. Witness our hands the 25th day ef October,
A" Dom* 1684.
*' Thomas Alalbone, CNrat 1*^1.
" Samson Parka, \ rh„r-i„^«i.«- ••
" James 0 Beri«ford, f <-«»nrohwaideBa
{his mart.)
John Sleioh.
Highgate, N.
** Waste-riff." — Lady Barker, in her little
book on the Principles of Cooking, uses this word,
and describes it as a north-country word. Whence
the hist syllable \ Like the Welsh gwastraff, the
whole word seems to mean simply waste.
T. C. U.
" TiiK End justifies the Meaxr." — Thw, like
many other points of belief and practice, may be
clearly traced to pagan sources. Speaking on this
j)oint, Lactantius says (De Falsa Sapitnti^.Vib.
lii. 15) : " Faciet sapiens (inquit idem Seneca) etmm
r|ua} non probabit, ut etiam ad majora transitum
inveniat." The wise man, says the same Senecs,
will do things which he disapproves of, in order to
compass higher ends. Edmtxd Tew, M.A.
The Rotal Veto. — It is often said that there
is no instance, since the reign of William IIL, of
the Hoyal veto being put on a Bill which hail
passed both Houses of Parliament But, according
to Sir John Bowring (Bentham-s Warks^ x., 211),
George III. vetoed Bentham^s Panopticon IJill in
that predicament.
Perhaps this may not be strictly correct : the
Bill may have been withdrawn, or not passed
through the last Parliamentary stage.
LrmLTOsr.
r* S. 11. Kov. 2S, 71]
NOTES iLND QUERIES.
[We most request correspondents desiHtig' information
tm itkmUy m&tterfi of onlj prit&to interest, to Affix their
n&mei imd Addreseea to tlieir querien, in ord«r thai tht
mmsmen mmj bd addresRed to ibem direot.]
lof
fill
^ "^EHtTLL (thk Surname)*— Taylor, in
' hi'- ible work on Words arui I^la^^s (ed,
l&tH,. ^-. J f:j, note), ia a niro ad verting on the
f cliaDt'e« and errors ia names, and the tendency t4>
cnntract their original forma, mentions (as tlocs
Lower, m hh English Surnames)^ thiit Semplc
•UHt "i.n ..f .S7. J*tfi<?. For this opinion, will
rned contributors Bay whether
ont anthority, or what are the
? None are known to me»
- biTid), whose chief Feat waa
oun, ElliittHtonn, or
t i>by KunfrewBhire, are
I , and, at one time, were also u very
Thpy wertt first ennobled in the end
T,«me9 IV,, in the person
rrew^ who was crertted
1 li' 111 SI (>[ Liie fiiniily known is sciid
hed in the time of Alexander III. of
I , Kjd at least one of them, Rt)berk by
|nAme, is, in a charter to hini by King Robert Eru^
lin the hrj»innin^ of the fourteenth century, of the
[whole lands within the tenement of L;ir|^s, Ayr-
csbiu' b*>lrin;iinir to, and which were forteited by,
hn Babo}, adkd *' Roberto, dicto SjmpiL"
\\) [iftcr timpi;, assumed more than one
fl itterly^ and chiefly, the form*! of
pie. It mu*rt be mentioned,
ftwercr, that, by a tradition in Renfrewshire,
rtTvrin of SympJl, &c, was; the adjective
rtpl( ; itia«^much its it is said that the first of the
Tiiiy, this Rob*^rt, or iwnie ancestor, was only a
plt\ or ft',.- ,n, one holding no hmdH,
Utjl the tihi vution into note, in conse-
of a eijLc< "-rul feat in snidery, by which
I of Robert IL wns saved through his per-
0 '■ r V. - r Mon upon this kint^'s
jory Bruce, wife of
i^i^.,^., .„,..,.., .,x Scotland. The Prfo-
ontingi or in returning from it to her
castle of Renfrew on the Clyde, fell
horse at a ?ipot between Paisley and
^A\lilcb v.'LH iij.'irkod in n^er tiuies bv iv
( Ifed-^
lL,the
i>u\ Li?i having hud i*fd, or blo<»d-shot
d and known as ** King Blenrie ^*=
^cye; and a tradition, which is uniform,
' nave it that thi^ jirose from tlie eyes of the
Mng a I injure^l in course of an
intL Iti fhf< operator is called Sir
Btcr, J I ' I u pica were vassals of
StBWart^ i is undoubted. A«
) arm», thvj n. m liie chcveron chtque (the
her
Stt'Wiu:t4*' chief bearing being tho feu fhcquc) be-
tween three hunting horns, with Imtchea us sup-
jwrters, and the motto ^' keip tryst '* ; and in
consequence, and even otherwise, it is pretty
generally allowed, that at first they must have
tilled the office of hunter, forester, or fowler, under
the High Stewarts, who received vast passessions
from David I. and his immetliate successors, and
among others the barony of Renfrew, which wtis
CO- extensive with the present shire, and within
which WIW5 the extensive and "prohibited forest"
lying sonlh-e^st of Paisley, as well jw others in
Strathgryfe, the name of that poi-tion of the barony
which Ls situated westwards of the Blaok-Cart, <w
Kert- Loch win noch* IL
BuoBT, OR BuGBfic, Familt. — The writer is
anxtoui5 to hojw of any members of this family in
the eixt^enth and seventeenth centuries. The
frmlitioni* are that the iamily was settled in the
Midland Count res and about London. The Ame-
rican bmnch descends from two brothers, who
sailed from Ipswich iibout 1C30.
Jons E. Bailitt.
Stretford Manchoster. * ' • •
FAiiiLY Ri:«)iirj», &a, Enoraved o!« Coins* -^
Throurjh the kindness of Mr. Lincoln, of New
Oxford Street, I have before me three pieoca of
Engli&h money which have hnd their reverses filed
smooth, and inscriptions engnived thereon. The
fii^t piece is a *hilhn^ of Queen Anne, and the
record inscribed is "Ann Hope^, bom Nov, loth,
1777/' The second piece la n fonrpenny bit
(Munndy money) of Gerjrge III., date 1762, on
which, rcplac'ing the fi^ire 4 erased from the
revenue, is this inscTipt inn : ** Martha Ellis, born
Anfit. 17, 17N5.'* The thinl piece is another Queen
Anne*s shilling, the reverse bearing the following
amatory sonnet : —
**To
My Boul
Kv*^ word conveVB & Durt,
Thro'»' y* Ear into >' lUnH ;
ETery ^enturo pives Dei^ier,
Ev' Rrettth blovr* up the Fire;
Ev'^ Motiun clmrnii y" Sights
Oh ! thoa lleavn of all Delight.
Sarah Wint.
London."
On a fourth circnlar piece of silver, the siKe of a
shilling' (1 cannot exactly detennine whether it
was originally a coin^ both sides are covered livith
engraving. On the obverse is a representiition of
a femade, cross in Imnd, weeping at a tomb ; this
latter displaybp; these words, "Tlora Plant, of
Leake, died April l<), 1645, aged 66." On the
reverse appears^ ** A Present firitn his Uncle and
A out Edw. and Elizabeth Evans to Will, Baker, in
remembrance of their beloved Sister and his affec-
tionate, A unt» Lincoln, Nov. 1, 1846." I would
faio learn something about these and >Li33ivU£ -^v^^ift^-^
428
NOTES AND QUERIES.
r5*S. II. Nov. 23.71
whether such inscribed coins are ri\ro, or, as I
fancy, plentiful ; and if the latter he the caPo, what
custom obtained with reu'ard to tlieir dii-trilmtion.
Crescknt.
Wimbledon.
Sculptor Poet. — Dr. Wharton, in his Essay on
Pope, says : —
** The Persians dlBtinguieh the different degrees of the
strength of funcy in different poets by calling them
painters or sculptors. Lucretiue, from the force of hin
images, should he ranked among the latter. lie is in
truth a sculptor poet."
I should be glad to know whence he derives
this reference to the Persians. C. A. Ward.
Mayfair.
Seal of Alexander, Prin'ck of Livonia. —
The seal of Alexander, Prince of Livonia in 1502,
bears, besides the main shield of the quartered
arms of Poland and Lithuania, a series of six
separate escutcheons, as follows : —
1. A bull's head caboshed accosted by a sun,
and a crescent ; an estoile between the horns.
2. A lion and eagle dimidiated.
3. A man's head affronto crowned, and gorged
with an open crown reversed.
4. A beast (griliin or lion) rampant.
5. Barry . . . and . . . impaling . . . twenty
estoiles . . .
6. Hungary (the patriarchal cross).
I shall be obliged if any correspondent of
*'N. & Q." cxiu assist me to the tinctures and
owners of these arms. J. Woodward.
Welsh Paiusii IiKuistkhs.— An abbreviation
looking like *'vz" Uhc -. bavin;: a lon;^' tail) is
found frequently in AVel>h rei^istcrs. For what
word does it .stand .' It scorns to mean "daughter
of," while the more familiar ''aj)" is strictly con-
fined to the masculine ;,'ender. Thus under date 1st
Dec, L'^ST, is an entry :—" Uau id ap Edd
[Edward] ct Katherina vz liondlo ilisponsati sunt."
From 1G14 onwards the abbreviation consists
of three letters ; the first like a (freek \ or ^, and
the la.st two plainly ch. The viciir of the parish,
a thorough Welshman, could suggest no wor4 in
his language. W. D. Sweeting.
Peterborough.
Ancient Chants ok Land i;y Puutuguese
Ai'TiioRiTir.s IN India. —
" En TOcsnic temps (a.d. 154()) on receut nouvellcs dc
la Declaration du Koy lean, touchant lea belles actions
faites j\ Dio ; on vertu d » luquelle on assigna divers prix
aux braves qui avoicnt bieri servy ; ct on distribua aux
Boldats vnc cortaiue (iuantitc de terrc autour de P.af^ain."
—Histoire (Us liuhs, i)ar R. P. lean Pierre ^laffce,
Partll. 1). IIX), Puri?, 10'«5.
Were any of the Portuguese grants of land en-
gnivetl on sheets of copper? In what Linkage
were they us-ually written I And are any of those
for land at Bjissain, twenty-seven miles north from
Bombay, still in existence 1 E.
*• The Universe." A poem by the Rev. C. R
Maturin. author of Bertram. London, Henry Col-
bourn. Maturin s Bomancet, &c. — Some yean ago
a |)oem with the al)ove title was publiabed. Since j
Maturings death it lias been ascribed to a Ber.
Mr. Wills. There is a mystery about this that
I do not understand. Did Maturin lend his name,
and was a trick played off on Ck>lboum? Orii
the pretended authorship of WiUs a piece of
hiamey of the same mint which tried to dndre
Campbell of the authorship of The Exiie of Bm!
The question about The Univeru induoes me to
ask whether there is any modem or recent editkn
of Matnrin's most extraordinary romance, MdmtA
the Wanderer, It is an eloquent and imaginatife
effort of genius, and of more value than all the
sensational romances of the present day put to-
gether. A French translation has recently appeared
St Paris. A few years ago The Home ofMantmOf
a youthful production by Maturin, was icfpiiDted
in London, but the publisher (probably owing to
copyright law) did not interfere with Melmoth ik
WamUrer, The Home of Moniorio is a rontnoe
of the Kadcliffc-Minerva school, and Maturin wm
ashamed that he ever perpetrated such a poerilitj.
N.
Muffling Knockers with Kid GLoyRS,— 1j !
there any significance in the use of a white kid
glove for muffling the door knocker when an "m-
teresting event ^' has taken place in a houaeboUl
Dickens describes the process with great hmnoor
in one of his novels. The right hand glove (I haw
heard) is or was used in the case of a male in&nt ;
the left for a girl. Can any reader of " N. & Q.'
account for the selection of a rather unsnitaUe
article for this puri^ose, and say if the alleged use
of the right and left is invariable or arbitrary?
F. D. F.
Belfast.
Gilbert White, of Selborne. — I possess one
of his sennons written in that caligraphyforwhicb
he was so famous. From the style, however, and
the very few erasures in it, I cannot help suspecting
it is not original. It is on the text Matt. xxv. 3i.»,
and commences, " These words arc the conclusion
of the Parable of the Talents, and designed by our
Saviour to stir up all Christians to faithfulne«
and zeal in the exercise of all those powers and
means/' &c. Perhaps some one can trace it for
me from this beginning. It was first preached at
Selborne Aug. 0, IToS, and, between that date
and Aug. 19, 1702, did duty at that village seven
times, and at Farringdon no le.^3 than twelve
times. Pelaqics.
The Long Parllvmext. — Thomas Raikes (see
Journal J 185S, vol. ii. p. 337), when in Paris,
called, 14th Nov., 1842, on "Montrond" (in the
Index he is called Count), who " was ftdl of anec-
^dotf^ of ^st times. He produced an old book
. 28, 74]
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429
t^l>t^
Acn by bis mother in 179u on
■nt in our C-lmrIt*5? T> trnir.
[ Wl:
egijtii mo to rend. , , . I br
8 Took to read/' Has the
t bjT &nj of the French bibliot^.i|jLira, I
r Sir T. Lawresl-e.—! Imve a umx-
Ing entitled ^* Ixural Amv^em^nL
T, LawifL'nce. P.R.A,, Pinxt, Jolin Bromley
tit.'' Pn>>Hdirri by " Robei'fc Simpson, 20, Sl
' nden Town.^' The picture rc-
otne boy a iilnyin<r with an ass.
h tu ;uk i\^ the pictures of the boys are por*
iU, find if so, whom do they represent ? I fancy,
m the pose of the figures, that they are portraitk
W. H. PATTKHaON.
State ok England, imiJ'—Tha
f\'n^h-nfl nnflcT tJuir MajttHi^t King
i ^'7rT/, by G* M. Wlio is
ing known of him i The
Itintcii Ly -^ Ji, C, for J<»hn Wyat, at the
''&n in St. Patira Chnrchyard, ifini/' and
Rted to the Duke of Leeds (then Marquis
* CuermartbeD). E. Passing ham.
Nkwby»— In the county of York are at least
rtinr plicp? brnrmfj the name of Newby, viz.,
ii of Seal by, near Scarborough ;
V 'Hley ; Newby, near Gisbum,
ing ; Kf why, near Hare wood ; Newby,
bam, Settle ; Newby Cote, in the same
" ood ; Newby Hall, near Ripon, ?eat of
Vyner ; Newby Park, near Topcliflfe ;
r Wishe, near Northallerton. Nut one
ikice$ U mentioned in the Domesday Sur-
•ir-a of all placea terminating in
ly of Daninh origin, how can
lii' , Ml .M ihc '_'^^ ^ .^. ., i o accounted
It i-onnot be reu [ that they
»Te origiualed ainct . „. _ ., ^ , . . . , W. G.
iTULlira
EfpIiN.
"HOC UT DIXIT," kc. (SNEEZING).
(5*» S. il 396.)
f Mr. Landor nor any other man can
i-^e of this pa,sjt:i;^'e of Catullus a.3 Ma.
,.r I,;, mpyist) ha-^ writt*jn it. The
s in no case wanted, m^es the
It 1 -; Ti< rr nl;u-<^d.
n Mb, Colli x?<
V :iy, lean under-
ity ; for EtuskervillMg
any notes* Otbi<r-
o to Landor ; any of
Hcicntly cxpbunit the
.'u U ccrUudy some doubt aa to
{ukr I he* fm^hiftfof the hone in the
weU-kjiown passage of Herodotus, &c.) was taken
n^ ^ sort of omen, or supematural token: nee the
\ n Propertius, quoted by the commenUtors.
M2 it simply means that Cupid, who wiw
iy in attendance on the lovers, showed his
l1 of their endearments by sneezing.
iiii? fjeculi:mty of the passage is that, by its
ctmstmction, it may me^in that the approval wm
si;^'nitied either by a sneeze dexter or a imettie
iinuter; and that both aa to grammar and sense
either reading is defonaible. (Compare the very
MTigrammatinil variations, in the Art of Plu^k, on
the words ** Hannibal transivit Alpea summa dUi-
gentia.")
1. Written and punctuated as follows — "Amor
siniatram,nt ante de\tram,8ternuit approbationem"
— it means, ** Cupid, who before (the return of
Septimius) had sneezed on the right (meaning
f/uffaTour)j now sneezed sanction (by sneezing) on
the left/' This is the nnmy elegant as to language,
and is quite correct in sense ; for it is well known
(as illustrated by the Greek word ivmvvfio^) that
the left hand was, in omens, considered lucky.
The commentivtors profoundly explain this bo aa to
reconcile it with the general sense of dexter as
favourable, by reminding us that that which was
on the left hand of a man on earth was towards the
right hand of the god peering down on him from
the aky.
2. Written as follows — ** Sinistram ut ante,
dextram,"&c.~it means just the reverse ; mmtra
and df-xtra being taken in their more ordinary
sense, and it is hard to say that they may not be
80. The modem translators (Cowley's w a con-
temptible version), Mr. George Lamb and Mr.
Theodore Martin, assume this sense as a matter
of course,
3. I must admit I have always rather fancied a
third sense : that hoih positions were favourable,
the whole sense resting on the ^tuese, and the
meaning Ijcing merely that Cupid was favourable
tlwoughont the interview (in which no such defi-
nite change, at the tiine^ is mdicAted as in Horace's
fmious pamllel one of Lydia), and that both
before and after the lovers had spoken they were
of the same mind, ivnd Cupid, hovering all ronnd
them, gave his approval. But none of these points
are very material.
The parenthesis would be consistent with sense
and grammar if it included tkxtram ; but it is at
best wholly nccdlessj and better away.
Lttteltok.
P,S, It is needless to explain the sort of ellip-
tical TTpus TO (nifiaivofHVov which is required for
the/r«t two of the above versions.
Let Cowley, who b most wiccessful in his tnins*
hitiom, explain these line* from Catullus : —
♦' The Qod ol \io^ii ^\iQ i^wA <<s >&wvx \ywx
(the 0^ <>t Uii-^ti^fc^tSL^M^tt^^sVvts^^
430
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6^*S.U. Nor. a^^TcI
Plemed and tickled with tbe tiound^
8nec3Ecd *vloud, and aU an>uad
The lUtl« Loves, that waited by,
Bow'd. wid blM**d the augury,"
^' Anwr sicut anteii sternuendo edidemfc («tnw-
^iram approbationcin) omen ftiiiUtrum (infiiustum)
Ita nunc fit^rntientlo edliUt{de.Uram approMionan)
dcxtrum (fu us turn) omen," in Doering b correct ex-
^lanution ; ^hile J. Sailiger, who bus imitated
^•yiijB poem in eW^iacs—
** Hsae cS'titus uba, Isora d6 parta aecundia ]
AUtibus dcJLtrum stcniuit omen nmor^"
has oanfuaed the two sneezings and destroyed the
ioQe& W. E. Bdcklet.
The prcstitned sacred significance of aneezing,
^ond the hflhit of confirming the sneezer, both seem
rto be nt least as old as Homer. TelemM-hus wishes
|(hat Ills father woidd return to pnnijh the insolence
bf the suitors, andha,s no aooner expreBsed the wish
han he is seized with a sneering fit thnt makes
be rtptirtment ring. TMierettnoD Petiolone aUIi?
tthe attention of Euma^us to the fact of her son
liaring sneezed at (hose irord^^, jind laughi* out with
5oy at the go<>d omen. The entire sitimtion h
remarkable ; but here is the substance of it :■ —
^fra€pBa\€ov aavdx^i^^' ycXatrcrc 5c TlrjVfXoTrtttx.'
LoJ4'a S* dp "Evpatov Ijrca Trre/VKira Tpocn/v5a'
i.^p\€o p-oif Toy ^€h'ov kvavTiQP tS^€ KciAccrtroi'.
ovx ^pdaSf tf fiot vlo^ cVcnraf*^ wviortv fTno-rrL,
Od., rvii. 541.
J. L. TrrrEP..
Rugby.
DANTE AND HIS TRANSLATORa
(5»i» H. ii. 36 4.)
The strictures of Erem on the tmnsktion of the
passage from the PuTgatorio^ Canto iii, 28-30,
LBeein scarcely borne out by a careful consideration
Pof the text. The poet relates thiit, in ascending
[the monnttiin with his guide, the sun flamed ruddy
Behind him, and he perceived his shadow C4ist in
rftont. Not seeing an}'' other shadow hot hiH own»
no begins to fear that Virgil h!\s abandoned him,
but his faithful companion assures him of his
presence, and alludes to the fact that it is evening
at Naples, where his body which did cast a shadow
lies buried. Then comes the passiige in tpiestion,
^explaining how it is that his BpiritualiEcd body
I Casta no shadow. ** Do not mangel at this,*^ say^
^le, "any more than at wh.at exists in thetkies,
'■where one ray of Hght does not obscure another."
^ The 5ense is plain and .simple^ and exactly resolves
the poet's doubt. The idea of two heavens, one
fr, ncin ..rit to tlic othcr, Bccms farfetched iind
n necessary, nor would it bean apposite
. [1 of the difference between the spiritual
md coqyoreal body, which is the gist of the
The only difficTilty is the inti
article il between ^^altro*^ and ** >
a question of authorities. OAry
passage —
Mnnrtl if before ra* no
More timn tbnt in tbe -
One ra\
Thiscorrei^i in
lation, und siM>,\s mn m
followed the il wm omittevL
In the critical edition of Carlo iXlti^^ In %
eveiy pD«.siblo care was tiikea to msan
nes€t, U it* not found.
In Mr3, Ramsay s trunsbn
the passage stands th»« : —
*' If here no flhadow by my form i^ .
Thou sliouldfit not tnarvcl mr^rr t' •iM^
Because on them tlic ru l*
This is unsatisfactory, .m ict.
The vcraioD of M
corresponds almost
" Now if in front
Marrel not at it
Becauee one ray i .
At the name time it is onh' fair xo h\
there are authorities leamne ton \^!^ t
taken by Erf.m. In thr
156B, printe<i by Pietro Hrt I
notes ny BermmJir ill
the article il is < .
nientator give« the foUcnvin,
jmssage : —
'•^Horase tn ^
A. me alcuu' < i« i
faresti de* CitL, -„_ ,. ._.
iJtitioMBaA, noQ occupa »Ii' jUtro il l\
EC foaao altraniont^fCio c ch^ Vnti cie'
fttr ftltro, nnii potrebbe ef-
moBtrarsi alia veduta no^'
tFafis|>aroiiti sarian^^maTic
The capitals are in the origmali;
"Now, fiftUh be, if thou di>*t luit bcc nnT AkhAo
lowing Virgil in frout of fi
mora tbaii thuu would «ti nt
that i« the Hky« dots not i
light from the other' it
(part of the) sky took the I
not be the penetratittg Ujfht by yn
manifeit to our vicw^ and the hrav
diaphanous and transpareiiti but^ ou u
and opaque.*'
This deliverance is ruHi* r i,]»s< iir<
thinks it favours Ids
benefit. I have not m» i
the il is inserted, and it wo;i
translators I have qnotf'
unfortunate. Tht
could be consulteJ,
T
Sandjfkaowe^ Waveriree.
I hope EREii will ex
e^-pMcitiou
i>«d«
(i» S, n. Not. 28, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
431
omwseJ to Longfellow's) of the passage in Dante^s
Purgatorio Ttii^udy quoted and repeated below,
EEEikt la so evidently an Italian scholnr that i
think he nii(;ht not have suggested such an inter-
pj^,f.i,..,> L-,.^ ij^ tiiken the piissn^'e from the
Vij n of 1750 with PompGO Ventiiri't^
coil- i^nn of winch is now lying before
me, I I 'eretood thrtt edition to be
a rolun^i : one, and in it the three
linet arc printed thus :—
"Om m inn&nzi & me nulU a'&dombre,
Kon It marariglmr piti che de' cieli,
Che V tmo air attro raf^gic non inffombra.*'
Now, it is important to observe thnt there is here
no article before the nonn **raggio," but there is a
9e<)ond **ehe " beginning the sentenee contained in
the tliini line ; and I feel confident that, reading
th« two hx3t line.^ '' *and above, according
to the btrictest l 1 construction, their
plain and Biibstatjiiai mrtiiing is to this effect :
**I>o not iiKirvel more at this than that, in the
firr 'f , , M .^ ti f- hcuvenly bo<iie8)| one ray
of I tauother/*
] jind. more eapec tally,
are so frequent
, that this inter-
pTi. ' L Las to |je quite nriturul anil Dautesque,
I c , on the other hand, I cannot under-
tUiW Ehjim 'i? opposition of one hmvni to another
Arnv^n. la Eojj^lish we call the finmiment ** the
H^KivGns,'' and siurely the Italian '* cieli '^ is here
used in that i^enae. But ** cieli " in this passaf^e
m in the plund number^ and if Eree's int^rpreta-
titm were correct, the verb on^ht to at^ee with it
and be in the plunil also ; v ' .- have seen
tiiAt **intjombr:i-' is in thr . and must
'* and not **citli i^-j i - Domiaativc.
All I Erem*5 construction were the ri^ht
on- "^ "cho'^ beginning the third hne
WOi' "US,
1 u ., I '^'d to add, as a general opinion,
that Dante'- i i ompnessed and condensed
in Ftich nn i ir)- degnje m to defy any
English poet to tmiiKhik' the IfirinaCommetUa line
for lino : nnd thut great indulgence as to mimtti^
of ! may well bo afforded to those who
m;.: .ompt, M. H. R.
onoi
re T
Bkcdtald, CotrxT ob: Yalletorta (5"* S. iL
^ 36^» 41 4.)^ W, O. T. 15 on an entirely wrong tmck
icct this noble, whoever he
■: von FaDcmont, the third
►f Cornwall. Tr
jiild still be
'"•'^itrix Weie i^irjiasu^
I le of Hayles, his own
I of her marriage, and
I,, aa well as an In-
. . .., .^ribe^ her os "Beatrix
Regina Alemannia," the latter adding *'quiefuit
uxor Ricardi Kegi« Alemannia-." I doubt also
whether "the Rovfil Hou?*c of Cologne " be a correct
term, Rentrix was the daughter of Theodore von
Falkmont or Fiihy^^ •' "' -nvi niece of Conrade von
Hohentetten, Art i ! Cologne^ who was suc-
ceeded in his^ set' , ri 1 l^f vnn FiuiMiiKtnt,
probably a rebitive. Sh m-
able whether Richard '! i. i of
Earl Richard, be not a tictitious person altogether.
Richard had (with five other cnildreti who died
ia infancy) three legitimate sons ^ho attsiined
manhootl, and two illegitimate sons. The fonner
were Henry, son of his first wife, Isabel Marahal,
who njarried, but died chUdles^ ; Ediuund, »on of
hiB second wife, Sancha of Provence (by various
writers miscalled Scientia, Cynthia, Cincia, and
even Crucia), who succeeded hla father as Earl of
Cornwrdl — not as King of the Romans— married,
but died childless ; and Richard, alsio aoa of
Sancha, kUkxl at tlio siege of Berwick in 12J)6.
It h certain that this legitimate Richard left no
*o*i, or bu would have become Earl of Gorawall on
Edmund's dealli in llkKJ; but he may have left
daughters ; and apparently ho did leave a widow,
unleiis *' Johanna quit;' fuit uxor Ricardi de Com-
waBle "^ {RoL PaL^ 15 Edw. II.) were the widow
of his supposed illegitinmte brother, a person of
whom I find no trace in contemiximry recorda.
The illegitimate sons of Earl Richard who are thua
recorded were (1) Geoffrey, termed "conKanguineus
noster" (BoL FaL, 4 Edw. Ill), whose wife was
Margaret, and who left two sons,— Richard^ died
childless, and Geoffrey (Inq, Post. MoxU Bicardi
de Cornewaille, 17 Edw. IIL, i. 50); and (2)
Walter, to whom Earl Edaiand made a grant as
" fi-ater mens," 1:^93 (Accounts of Exchequet, r. 8),
and whose Inquisition was taken March 12, 1313
(6 Edw. II., IG), when his son WilliAm was
returned hi« heir. In Harl MS. 1140, it is
asserted n.nf tl^o doubtful Richard de Cornew*aille
was ^' I. Jiuadi Comitis,^ and that he left
a son (fob 123), The firgt asgertion
seems nuher improbable, since Earl Edmund w^aa
a very prominent member of the sect of the Boni-
Houiines (the Protestants of his day), and they
were usually particular about their morality. But
a pedigree given in HorL MS. 3^H8, fob 50, states
that *Muan, daughter of Edmund, Enrl of Cora-
wall "—query, if not Richard rather ? —married
Ralph Vidletorte, and her daughter Joan married
Bichivrd Champernoun, Here is a connexion be-
tween Cornwall and Valletort ; but whether it
^ any light on the sabject, or ** imikc« con-
\vorae confounded," I leave to your corre-
: |M,u.ijat. One point at lea><t is cert«»n ♦'"^
Beatrix von FolKmont w^as mother of
legitimate or ill* nffi.i itP nf Richard, '
Cornwall. UrrilwP^
3
432
NOTES AND QUERIES.
The Pretendkr ix England (n^ 8, li. 4o80 —
Karl imjuires forThax!kcmy a aQthority for reprc-
8entmg» in Mftnojul^ thnt the Pretender wa« in
England at tlio time oflhe death of CJlueen Anne.
Without iTt^gard to wh;«t i^'^ ' «11ed ^* facts," I can
supply evidence of < .vy belief that tho
Prince Charles Edwjir was in London at
the period In question. There is a tract in the
British Museum, styled —
'* An Account of the WhcJo Procession (of Pope, DeTil,
and Prctflijder)» As it vrh'* cftrrkd thr^' ih?* City and
Suburbs, And burnt at C' "^ f'rjy-night
l&st, kc. Londori : Pii Kead in
White-Frycra, iind J. BaL.. .: _ _ _i Low, 1717.
Price Tbrtic Pence/' (Ck^ilt^ctiou of Satirical Printdi,
No. 1607.)
TM« tract compriaea letter-pi-eas and woodcuts.
The latter need not detain us ; the former conBi«ts
of a description of the aUeged procession from the
" Roe-Buek " in Cheapside to the " Young Man's
Coffee- House ** at Charing Cross. At the latt^jr
plaoe certain effigies representing the three p^r-
aonage^ named in the title^ and other iDdividmik,
^'ere coiuniitted to a ** suniptuoua Bonfire." The
Pretender makes n Hort of biographical confession^
such oa Paul Lorraine (see Swift's Esmy on
Eti^luh Bvhhl««) mxd his successor in office m
OrdLuary of Newgate, Guthree, who
" «ftve» hidf Newgnte with a dasb/'
were only too well accustomed to publish. The
Pretender declares : —
'H)1d Letcis aaaur'd me he woa'd ncTcr desert my
Interest, find he kept hia Bona /c/*, tiU he was drub'd
into the humble Condition of suing for Peace; and I
was seemingly to be Socrific'd to the Resentment of my
EncmieB, but our dmr fitter, aud the Tor{e4, concerted
privately to elude the Force of the Treaty, and kept me
at BarleduCi from Trhenco I mode a trip to Somerset
House, but was soon FrigbtenVi ft way ajjain by the Sound
of a Proclamation, at which Sir Patrick anrl I Bcowr*d
off. Soon after dear Sister departed this mortal Life,
but the Schemes not being yot entirely fmi^h'dj and my
good Friends not baring the Spirit of Greece, Hanover
whipt orer before mc," itc.
It may be noteworthy that a similar belief was
entertained at an earlier dote, and with regitrd to
an alleged visit to London by a much more for-
midable person than the Pretender, U.^ the 'Mat-
dial Duke of Borwick, who, according to TJie
THnmphs of Proiidmiy over Hdl^ Fmru:*!, and
liomCj Ko. 121)0 in the above-name*! collection of
satii'eB, was in London shortly before the fto-called
**AsajwHin»tion Plot" against William IlL Tht?
Marshiii*it advent 13 ihuH quaintly described :■ —
'* But to prepare thinp», iJerwick first inuflt go^
Aud tbcr- rerniin nwhilc Inew^nito j
V'hu tbat the Plot was firmly laid,
IhxnK rx' HrH in mafquertide ;^
With ...... ,jj'd Unt or,.i ^Unut his neck a Ruff;
[ Better becommg IHiii 1 or Buff;
And tho' th*! r*'»t in I : i lie,
.'- ^t]\\ UtL' Plotter** cry.
' ngs would well ancceed^
^''- -'- - o>.-^. . .^ J . ..Attf returns with speed,*' &c.
A woodcut shows the Duko daticing at Dn^efs^ j
Hall '' in Fobruory lust " < lG9i5),
F. O. SrepiiK
" AuLD Robin Grat " (5«^ 8. il *^>^ e71/3Jli)
— Mr. J. HcrBAi«r Smitti is « ini^r
pression as to the EngljBh •
ballad of Anld Robin Ormj. 'Lin:, uau^i.; u by th»^
Rer. Williaini Leeve.'* (not Ltvive^^'u nod it is oat
"in it"' ■' ' ' -' ■' * ' ' T' ":ridi~
grooh
here, long ago, hut since have met
the ballad, which, if genuT!^" ■* •
been Runcf to the nir now <
Also the Rev. William L
to iSi-c Hacred Airs or U
1770, when residing with
in Surrey, he received from the
Byron a copy of Lady Ann Liudi^ay '
he immediately set to music." He
may not be unaatmfactory to decLir_ ,
done with the clearest conscience, tkit h
heard of any other music than Ms own boiag
applied to thes* i ni£ words." Mr, Leevea^
composition is \> l» aud Airland is qui:
disr^imilar to the r^imrM ;dr now printed UDilar tkA
name of The Bridojrot^m gr^L Conipara !■
Wood's ^Songs of .Scotland, I 20 and 22. I hmsL
many years ago, that Mr. Leeve« wa* pMflintO
from the Eectorship of Wrlugton, ueftr Bdlth,,
to the Bishopric of Jamaica.
Wm. ClIArFBLU
C?LOOK-STRiKrNG (5»*» S. ii. 268.)— I think Uat
Mr. Miller hat, perhaps, miscounted thu drC
In Italy clocks frequently n^Kot the hint htmr*
Pallanza and Intra, on Lago ?T
strike as follows ; at one o'cloi
struck on a great bell ; at a ([
hear a smidl bell sound one '.
then a repetition of the liM Ll-u. i
great bell ; at tlie half hotir, we h;i
on the small bell, aud o)u on th("
three qmvrters, we have three on t
and one again on tlie hirge bell ;
we have (as is the cnae at every *
only. In this arninu^i ru* nt thero ir
St. Michael's clock :i
of order, or, at a tj n
would not sound s^Vi^tir — an houi
arrived. J auks Hi
AOBETS AXD CaSTLKS OF BcQT
an Acc<>ni
4
\-
p
«*8.«.K«iT.2S, 7M
NOTES AND QUERIES,
433
r i..v...:.,|,|nj, JocAlitiw, but Xhe^e aro nw^fnl chiefly
iionka to the toiinat. E. A. F, *
UiilinjjJi'a Baronial nnd Ef^clmastiml Anii'
^iniUt of ScoiUiiul, 4 vola, 4to,» la what yotir
Ti ' ■ " L AKT)
M >\ were,
vert a b; J
JJfUie 21, imr*. Fun. ^', 14,
rr. inJ f::> ; tlic hitters ,,..., .....,, ,. ., u pas-
Qt : a chief invected or," iuipaiing for
' Omco, i2, fea, and U, 201. Y. S, M.
T
m< p\\\y hp irinrle for Mr. Miir||)ie3|
' h PiLxton Wfta ^Teatfy
idric^ and iis^lstftuc^.
I, of Manchester, an
to bo frequently m
i ui \ iijit«worth when the
1^ were ranking for the great
. and they were aliown to him.
I thfvt the principle* of conatnic-
id the strength iind form of the
i oams were quite insufficiejit to
ire.
Without the flJtemtions uin'le hy ^tr. Wren, the
ocmMTViitorv would moat lik«4y have been an utter
fojlure, iind in conaequenee the Cryst.il Pnlnce
would not hftve been sng^'e^led. Mr. Wren
ribed to me in the Orystal Pnhiec of 1851 the
nui tiri^t mjwle by Paxtoo^ and showed me
en»tc in those artimlly xwqkX. At this
of time I cannot positively remember,
•re made by
rmd Bont to
i»U:rufju to iiiw caiiui^^ iriaMrj troni theui»
Elltkk.
S»Vff?rrFKNTIf-CK»TURY ToKEics (5«* S. ii. 269.)
— T " : . vne is right in attributing the token,
<U Mb, CiTnisTTi"^ to Peiiiridge, and
nri! T ' K for this reai?on^ that
Pr iinced bv St attbrd shire
or
It ._,,
appears aa
I (Kink, to
local pronunciation of the name of the town or
village. It seems, therefore, to me that Peokridge
IS the correct town for the token ;Uluded to to be
placed under. W. H. Tatlob,
The " Calk>turists *' (5^ S, ii. 269.)— A Oal-
enfruri««t i^ one labouring under CalaUurcL, a form
of ^ 1 o whidi siulor* are aaid to be Hablc ot
Fc 10 self-deBtniction : —
On ti vu bed,
I^naQidioil tieiil^ and vcniatit treoi.
With eager haatc ho lonv'* t> rote
la thftt f 4ntAatic 8c< ' * * luka
It must be eoitie eocli >
And in he lenpi an 1 nki."
Dean ISnia ( Ilni &miK Sm},
The name for the disease, which is not now dla-
tinguiihed aa of special character, is a Bpanish one.
It 19 alao described in Cowper'g Sofa^ K. J.
Tub " MoDKRK Aooouirr of Scotland *' (5**
S. •' ''-^ ?-' both mre and curious. It wa« ftrrt
pu 1679 in 4to,, again in 1685, In lfJ»9
m :. .: , „.. L in Oct<»ber, 1714, in Bvo. The wriler
was Thoma« Kirke, ^q-^ F.R.S., of Cookridge,
near Leeds, He was bom 22ad December, 1650,
married Uth July, 1678, and died 24th April,
1706. Thoresby styles him ** my dear friend " in
the Dacatm Liodumis, The Account is highly in-
t-crr>tin<r, though it is unfortunately coarae, and
pr - otti&h brethren as ** nroud, arrogant,
v;/ boa^terft, bloody, biLrofirotts, and in-
huiiiuti liutdierR." The mcrcJuia mulicnim^ in itu
grossest forrai i:j mentioned as in force (p. 19) ;
and at p. 21 we are told that they ** cut coUopa *'
of Uie liWng cow, until " they have mangled ner
all to pieces; nn -■ *^ - will only cut
off aa much aft w. nt appetite«,
and let her go till hm ^ ^i hs caU for a
new supply." A copy of , now in the
'" f> Library (f— . .._ iiJ3), contains
by the late \\m. Ford, the well-
Ir, jimongst them u transcript of a
on Kirke. It h too coarse for
William E. A. Axon.
,w
Mancb'
some r
knmvii
1
tlr' • -
KoiibuliLte.
HuGUBKOTS (5^ 8, ii. 3C»6.)— To tlu> v<>rv- in-
teresting note of S. W. T, on the i of
this term, as suggested by various '", I-
may add vet another derivation, Haydn's iHc-
ffu'^iartf of Ihiia giving ** Huguenot*«, a term
flome from the Oerman Eidgeno9«eii,
; hrt oth^i ftmn Hi^jiUi^ a O^mttut
d to the Eeformed pnrty in
ofHalvin," l«fi:oMAous.
'■an:
There are the^
l,v rVulov in In..
■t\» of their origin given
Ho says- —
^Oot^j
434
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[^ s. n. Xi
1
before C&rdiiuLi Loihjmn^ttu la tlie time of FrAncIi tl.
of Prwice ; or from Hujfon, a gute in the city of Tours,
'wbore they aw^nibtcd when thej first fitlrred ; or q. d,
la Ouenott ih Jliasi, <e., John Husa's Imps,"
The meaning Bailey gives is *'' A nicknamp given
by the Papists in France to the ProWst/ints there/'
FrEDK. RtJLE,
Tub Boj^es of thk Pharaohs (5*"* S, iL 3S5.)—
♦• To wh»t \m*c mes ne n»ay return, Hoffttio t Why
may not jm&glntitioii trace tho ttoblo duFt of Alrx&nder
till be find it stopptng u bung -bole I"
1 remewiber seetnf,^ yeara ago^ on the NiJe in
Upper Et^'ypt, Boine pugur-works, where the animal
charcojU miH, I thinkj obtained fmm the iniiminy-
pits, but I am noL positive. In this utihUman
age» however, we mu.%t not be surprised ikt *^ senti-
ment" going out iiltogether. Did not a fseientific
lecturer recently suggest practical enlightenmenl
by the bodies and bonea of our ancestors— namely,
bv ' them in retorts and utilizing the gn« I
^\ I not we turn the ancient Egyjitiflns to
acif>ijni,ami fertilize fields with them i seeing that
we drive docks and railways through tho resting-
places of our own dend ; and, moved by plebeian
curiosity and intpii^itiveneafl, desecrate the tombs
of the mighty Plantagenets and otlier monarchal
of England ; and unhesitatingly rifle the ahmlea nf
the imcient CeUa and Saxons in the pursuit of
"antiqnitiei.''
Another age, and not a distant one, may nee
foundlings, ]janpera^ and idiots banded over to the
physiologists of the day to he viviaected for the
benefit of science, Oeobob H. Jbsse.
SoitAfiTER ANB KeI^UAND FAMILIES (5^*' S. iL
348,) — In answer to your correspondent, I beg to
inform him that the bruneb of which Sir Samuel
Somaater waa a member died out in the male linCi
and the headship was continued by the family of
a younger brother^ a member of which had been
Atvhdeiicon of Totne?, Alt*o it was -Tf^liTi Kf IJiind
who died in 1691, and not the John vho
died in 1679, who married the hei^e^ (er.
These KelJanda were the yonugcr branch of the
family of KeOand of KelJand and Lapford Court
(of which I am now the eldest surviving represen-
tative of the «enior branch) ; i\nd the Painsford
branch became extinet in the male line in 1712,
by the derith of Joha Keliund of Paimiford. Your
correspondent may find monumentH of the family
at Painsford :^"John KeOiiud, Esq., 1679; John
Kelknd, Estj., 1691 \ John Kelland* E^q,, 1712."
The identity of the KelJand and Somaster families
I have never heard before diaputed.
W. H. KlSLLAifD,
Trin. GoLL, Cambridge.
DrcHEss OK MARLnoitouou AVp Qui&fix Ankb
{d^^S, ii 30S.)^Thc Duchess, in her Accomt of
/i€r Conduct^ London, 8vo.^ 1742, p. 2^6, aa\ft-.— yi\v(i
"And know in f:
for the rrjy
mv nftmiiti^
' credit ri rt'^^T^Cct In
1/ , .iffca
1
litid dowu by bUliup 2
And the Duchess i
Queen had read her ])iu|»ei^, tlmt,--
*^ Ai ihe WM pa*»1ng by m^ m vr^tj t<. teedve
oomrouxiioo, ibe looked whi
very ^raolooily smiled up' i
ple^saui took I h«d reMon ^.l^^^^.i.^-^ «-> ... ,m» '
givoD to Bi»bop Taylor and the CinnwiQH Pfaytt
and not to roe/
The entire letter is preserved iiiii
MSS., XV* laZ^ and is printed in ^i
Lift of the Duchcii of Marlborough^ lioutloij^
1839, ii. Appendix, 600. Eoward Sol
COK6IDEIUTIOV8 ON THS ]V[aER1A<^E 0P
Duke or Odmukhland, 1772 : BioAMtiirrr {5*^
S. ii- 307.)— Thift piunphlct on the luarriaiEV «l
Henry Frederick Duke of Cun ^ -' - '
Anne Luttrell, daughter of
bampton, and widow of i^V**^
of Catton Hall, in the con 1
by Thom»a Pownall, a gi u x.
attainments and polititid km
the Royal and Antiquarian
atant contributor to the - i j.
To dist in gu ij^h him f rt * 1 1 > ' j r J nh n (wll
was aha an antiquarian), bo wa« eri
Pownall, hiiving beon ri«>vcTnftv
Ueneral of South *
colonies, Ikcalled t
he was elected in 1768 a uu mLur of the 11 oil
t'ommons, and signalized himself in the dd
by 111 ' ' '
Am< I
died :ir i.tii 11 111 i-^' i.f.
Althougli no authority for the usmge of the ^
''bigurriety" can be found "^ '•■' —
It seems to be coined froti
which signifies a motley ;; ,
mt'lange de personnes niaj . m ^ , ,1
luta one of the many «i 1 ' r>i
character, namely, his n
Bociety of low ancl vulgar c
litign of Qtorgt IlLf vol 1
p. 165. TT,
Ficc&dtlly.
"Bigarrieiy** would p*^"*
form of the French aud I
:i iin^^inm^ whicll the COI
t this word **bignr
I , .1 hharrc jh <!cd, iv.
lugicui dictionaries J '
hiiz'j. But there i-
moaning *Ho be ntarked
^sfewtoft ftt whose del
tlJ^artWtia
NOTES AND QUERIES.
435
dainiuiL! for it m GaulLiU origin, others tracing it
bU variatm. There is a cherry
on aixMrmnt of Lte motley nature.
■V, CToteaqiie, might suit the piis-
1 the word bizarre seems ne^irer
Eff.
•*Oth»^t'" ff'T ^^^*'(o'*'S. ii, '^'»>^ '^ — '^ertftinly this
uor«i is lew. Sec m ana's 0/i(
given. ' ' , : _ ^ ^ir
Antiqun-^ voL L p. iiHj Robert of Gloucester,
p. lO'>: ofher htnitr, AncTfn EiwU, p. 82; otficr
■•:, ut the Itu&t reference.
Id a reference to Piers the
riiiviiuau, Jj. ^L.u o;*, Walter \Y. Skkat,
Cambridge.
Thiw H'oni h not unconmion. It o<^im in Put*
t^oham^is ArU af Enyluh roesie: —
** Otkavikita we «pf*ake tmd be aorry for it.*'
Alt/5 in n fen- of Tha Jlomilit-^ ffrmp. t^> ue en Eliza-
Gof\ of lira i h ^tint iis
. U»] to use, 8u ? he doth
;£ them again from u;>."— ♦Scr/rt. /or iJo^o-
' Part 2.
irrence only in the Strmmi
\/ct Matrimony^ und Of lU-
' Kjier irj ^unices of the word's u«e by
Govvor, and Bishop Hull arc jriven in
kp -'■ IHdionnry; also by Milton^ in
^f ftfton-if IMciionarif. W. P,
,B^ lodex to T7«« Jlomilui, p. 627, of Uie edition
|CbL&KiI| CTniveCBity Press, 1859.
Ea Marshall.
mrhU^i, tbe fvmJBh'U EnglUh, like iKtIe ghoBtSi
r besiege a£ one hour in a month. '
1 i/f/ir y lY,, i. 2, 7.
FiiEDK- Rule.
1 ing other whiles ten pounds
[or 1 1)^:^ of Hothind.
C. A. Ward.
rfdr.
MciVAiiLv: FiGURKS iif Books (5*'» S. ii. 287^
^ :^(T.^ — An ex^imple of these figures of still earlier
V S. D. G. occurs in a verj^
now befoi-e nie— Bartiach'a
'U'^f'iA; IM.M ut Augendiiinst^DTe^^m^
1 15^ i ty of the eye is illustrated by u
' irries of m uuacuiSj placed one over the other.
J. Dixon.
"VVhat 15 a Pouxrpr' (fi^\ S. ti. 248, 333.)—
PThe diificulty tn fhi- que^jtion ik that there is no
In Franco there is the
i dollar ; in Huasia, the
^u , ;iMd a payment means so many
The gitinea, which waa one
fKjund one shilling, existed before the sovereign.
The answer to the question **what s a pound f
may be twenty shillings or two hundred and forty
pence. Formerly the penny was an ounce of
pure copper, and a doaen of them were worth a
shdlLng, Now^ a doaven of the bronze pennies,
though more portable, are not worth more than
three pence. To fix the price of gold at 3^. 17^. 6d.
per ounce, and then say the pound is an ulimiot
part of the ounce, is reasoning in a circle. The
sorerei^iy as csontradi^tingiiished frojn the pound,
is a piece of gold of a given weight, but its value
has?, within the List twenty years, considerably
diminished, inaftmuch a* it cannot now procure
the same qmintity of commodities which it then
represented* Sir Robert Peel used the question
" What -a a pound ? " in the debate upon the
Currency or Bank Laws of 1846. Ke appetirs not
to have understood either his own question or the
currency one, and the law of 1846 him been the
fertile aoiirco of commercial panic. Labour, and
not money, ih the true te^t of value ; the general
advance in wa^es proceeda from ii diminution in
the value of the pounds as a larger number muat
be given to secure the same quantity of com*
modities, and tr^o the same amount of labour.
JgsEPU Fisher,
Waterford.
** Defender op the Faith '^ (5"* S. ii. 2(>6, 254,
318.) — Tbe early use of this title waa well in vest i*
gttt^d in *'K & Q.," pt S. ii. 442, 481, und iii* 94.
I may add that the Bull of Pope Leo X,, conferring
tbe title on Henry VII L, is in Rymer's Fanhra^
tom. xiii, p. 756, with a fac-simile of the original,
which expressly mentions that the title was con-
ferred on Henry on account of hia book against
Luther, This was in that king's fifteenth y^ear;
and I have looked through the namerttua docu-
ments in Rymer back to the twenty-second year
of Henry VIL, without finding a smglc instance
of the u«ie of this title by either sovereign before
the date of the Bull, though many of them &ei out
the roj'al titles at fidl length, such as f j ' * lea
of marriage, &€. (13 Rymer 77, 1«*7, 1 1 ' ♦),
and one of them (p. 334) consists ui .uih.v?. of
ngreemcot ma4:ie eleven years before the Bull be-
tween King Henry VIII.^ Pope Leo X., the Arch*
duchcsii of Austria^ and other princes, expresaly
for the defence of the church. In this, if Miy-
where, one would expect to find him styled ** De-
femier of the Ftuth/' if our kings ever used it
l>efore the date of the Bull, yet in it the royal
style is merely *' Henri cus. Dei gratia. Rex Angliie
et Franci»' et Dominua Hiberniaj,'' the same as
in the other doeumentd above cited. After this it
ia difficult to believe in the genuineness of the
Lea«e of 22 Henry VII., mentioned by Mr. Staf-
ford p. 206, which actually gives the words ** De-
fender of the Faith" toi isvJvt^.QlOGSk\.^\sv^^«^^
436
NOTES AND QUERIES.
tS»5.1LKdt.SS,7l.
or title. Sir Edwnrd Coke, whose acquaintance
with the deeds of the Tndor jieriod was unrivalled,
gives the style and title of our successive kings
own to hiB timcj and saye, *' If a deed in the style
of the king name him * Defensor fidei ' before 13
Henry VIIJ., or * supreme head ' before 20 Henry
VIII*, it IB certainly forj^fcd '' (Coke on LittletoDi
7 a). And none of the charters, writs, or docu-
ments, cited in *'N. & Q.," l'^ S. ii, 481, or iii. 94,
shows a use of these words as part of iht king'n
Utkt which seema never to have varied from the
time of Henry YL down to 13 Henry VIIL (vide
Sir H. NicoWs Chronology of History, 376, 2iid
edit.^ who extracts from Sir T, D, Hardy's Intro-
duction to the Clmrter RolU). The lease thei^efore
cited by Mr. Stafford b unique, and would cer-
tainly astonish Sir T, LX Hurdy. Is it possible to
get a sight of it ? Joseph Brown*
Temple*
Spkllino Rbfohms (6*^ S. L 421, 471, 611 ;
iL 29, 231, 277.)— The Eev. De. Bkkwer, in his
not€ (6*^ S» i. 421) on the c mute, before the
Bii£&xe8 -able and 'ilile, gives in a list the follow-
imf words which ace *^aljnost invariiibly written
with the c mute " : — diangeable^ atm'^eahU^
daniaffeabk^ manafjeabk, peaceable^ M^rvic^abU^ &c. ;
** whde others," he proceetls to aay, " as generally
appear without it, as achrabkj advisobh, Slamabk,
consolahlf^ (kclinahky ple^isurabh^ and so on.**
I think there can be no doubt that the e mute
is retained in the first claas of wonJs for this
simple reason, that g and c before a are always
hard ; as, of course^ they also are before o and u.
Without the c, therefore, changeabk would have
to be pronounced chan^fjahk; chargmhk, charg-
gabkf &c. J. L. C. S.
Rabel (5*** S. i. 388 ; ii. 133, 198, 238, 296.)—
I have only jtiat seen the letters which appetired
in your number for the 15th of August upon this
subject, but am inclined to the opinion that this
form of the word in Jeremiah is a mistake.
I am sorry that I hiid myself open to censure
by making a general assertion ; but, in speaking
of other versions, I was thinkinr^ of those in the
loomiages of the Continent. If I had been aware
of 3io difference in the Welsh verBion, it would not
have affected the argnment. I understand from Mr»
Unnone that the word '* H^ihel " is used regularly
through the whole of that version, whereas in the
English version it is only used once, thus represent-
ing two pronunciations of the Hebrew word.
Again, I cannot a^ree with Mr, Unnone that
the siDguLir fonuation of this word in Jeremiah
is to be accounted fur by ** the pa.s*iago having been
translated by a WebhuiJin/'
It muBt be remembcrod that no portion of the
vcrjiion of 1611 was allo*Jved to re^t upon the
authority of any iodivitlual tmni«hdor. Tlie truns-
Jators were divided into «?oiiipaiiiesi ; the portico of
Scripture consigned to each wih& tnoiBlnted by cat:h
member of the conipjiny, a r ' ' - 1 imitted io tb*
judgment of the whole. h HimI A^fMd
upon their transiation, it t^ u.^ lui t^r. i refeired totl^ ^
other companies, wt that nothing might ^Mkea wiili-|
out general consent.
It does not seem possible that the word ** Raht?!'' I
.should have been accepted by general eon ^r til m
Jeremiah when it had been rejected bv
judges in every other passage of Holy .^
Again, if Mr. Marcel's statement is correct, th^t J
" in the older English versions ' Rahel ' is em- 1
ployed throughout, but was onJj suiTcred to[
renjain in this one passage in the Authi«n2ed I
Version of 1611," I am the rather Lnclined to [
attribute the retaining of it to an overti$?Ht If I
the tmnslators of 1611 had considered :
in Jeremiah, they would not have alt^
other places* If they considered it &o
that it became necessary to change it in
pjissiiges, they would not, except k.. ..^ ,,,,
have left it unchanged in the >
"With rti^pect t^o the proper | um
letter rr, on which, however, th mot
depend, I do not consider r i lo
enter into a discussion with a J
In defence of my own oi'ii tbnil
Geseniufl calls the letter *' < 'ki* 1
and Bays that it is the hai^
the guttural c/i,
I may add that the writen of the Bepiu»^iiit, I
who may be supposed to have known the pitvl
nunciation of their own language, rcnilcr thtj
Hebrew n by the Greek ^ in Rachel, not only iul
the other passages in which the word occurs, bnt-l
also in the 16lh verse of the xxxL chapter of'
Jeremiak Frepeiuck ft'UiJrr.
Egbam Vicanige.
[Tliii diicasnon ii now closed.]
Braose = Bavent (6*»» S. ii. 237.)—
Roger de=Hawye6. Wiltiaiu d«=pMarU,
Bavent. Bmoiie. thinl wtfi.
Jolin de
Baveot
t.p.
£le)inor'= Wilitaia,
third eon*
1. Iticb^ri
2. Peter.
Peter (le Brtboat^^JoliJinafi hUit
of Ada i!
The above p vcritled by th^
authorities:— 7 r, ir. 33!: I'
liv. i:in ; Abbr. PUc., 10, E. u
Eot. Chart., 16 and 2i\ Ed. iii. 11
Abbr, Rot. Grig. (vol. ii.>» 18, ii. nu H^ IWl
2!) ; Ik, IS), £. ill, Ro, fi. FiJ.ix Liviunrr.
SrjiHoi. IS Statkkd nt.4f!
—I am inclined to think that
de*cnbed by R. P. may be li
6» & II. Not. 28, 'T*-]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
437
the mocking of our blessed Lord. In a Sarum
MisaaJ preserved in Bi^hojj CH)sin*s Library, Dur-
hanD, aanmll woodcut atnndi^ at tlie hetui of the
** Mtsfia de Quingue Vnlneribus,*' representing Our
Lord suTToiindea by all the inatniinents of Hia
lion. Amongst the raivny details which are
«ced is the heiid of a man with protruded
e* Was Ihe gubject of the window a cnici-
ixion I Johnson Baily.
" Gon SAVE TBE mark/' &c. (b^ S. ii 169, 215,
335.) — Docs not the word iitark, in these pknises,
ue/in the sign of the cross, which the speaker is
iiuppoBed to rnuke on using the untowiird word or
worde 1 J. K
T)"'' ^^'^ vrt\s ** fi parenthetic apology for some
[pTT»i il^^r word'* h most probable; for,
I «nt I'utly, there existed«a pecnliar mode
[of ifnonggt the profane and vulgar in
[War .-, A man would utter an impreca-
Ition^ and then immetliateJy add, parenthetically,
I " God forgive me that I should say so.^ The
[apology seems now to have assumed the general
|form«, "Excuse the remark," and "Pardon the
I expression," usually prefacing some observation of
I uausnal severity* C. Chattock, F.R.ILS.
Giittc Bromwicb,
" Petronifs Arbiter ** (5*^ S. ii, 249, 338,)—
I cannot tell B. whether the Amsterdam edition
f of W^il be scarce or not, but I po^se^^ a copy. It
lukA a dedicatory preface by Woweren, the editor,
to no less a person than Bcalrger. W. T, M»
ShiiiAeld Grovo.
Seal in Two Parts (5»«» S. ih 30S, 352.)—
An Act of the 13th Edw, L directs that the seals
for thfl Statute Merchants should be of two pieces,
the great-er to be kept by the Mayor or Chief
W.nr^ " '■'"* the less with the Clerk, whose duty
it V > out the obligation. The Corpora-
tir' I P 1»M T *< i n t lieir po&session one portion
of i the two parts were united
by and by a screw. The seal,
ifhen complete, hud for device the arms of the
* jf, and an inscription, the iiortion of which,
nved ujxjn the remaining piece^ is '* KCAToais .
t know if any impression of
tht n is kiiovrn, ami, if ko» to
hikTe :i ilcsLi'ipLiuU vi it. A. W. M.
Lcedd.
' S. ii. 308. 352.)
— T I I'M)* . r Puttn/
James
I- 1. A ILL ^ F. tk WaaiHk:-*, M.A.
houae*8 remains, was found this year, during the
repail-ing of the vault at Blair. The people there
were very indignant when asked if his aahes had
not been removed to Old Deer, Claverhouse*^
lost lineal descendant. Miss Clementina Stirling
Grahame, of Duntriine, the friend of Scott, and
the heroine of M\jiitific(ttion^, is now a lively, clever
old lady of ninety- two, who goes about, knows
everything, and is a fine type of the fast*Yanishing
Scotch gentlewoman of the old school,
Gretstbil.
Edinburgh.
"Tam o* Sdanter,'* &c. (5*^ B. ii. 328, 358.)—
I think that the Earl of Kilmory has the original
figures, I eaw them in his house on the Thames
about ten years ago, A. 0.
" Touch not the Gat Btrr (or hot) the Glote "
{5^^ S, ii. 146, 213, 356.)-'In Lanca^^hire the form
" bout," often supposed to be a comiption of the
word " without," is commonly used, Will it not
most probably be a relative of the tenn given by
LiNDis and S. T. P. ? Yllut.
Broughton^ Manchester,
The Early English Contraction for Jesus
(D*** S. ii. 2«5, 375,)— It i& curious that no one in
discussing this subject has mentioned the absurdity
of the monogmm in its form IHS. The tir»t tvyo
letters are Greek, but the other Roman ! A h\'brid
of that sort must be cidled absurd. I HO, the
last letter being the old Greek ^igma, Ib the correct
fonn. Charles F, S. Waeren, M.A.
The Name Jenifer (5«» S, ii. 305, 376) seems
to be a corruption of the beautiful one Genevieve,
wliich Coleridge has rendered famous in bis well-
known poem. There is a village in this county
(Suffolk) called Fornham St. Genevieve, popukrly
known as " Fomham Jenifer."
John Pickfohd, M.A.
^ewbottroe Rectory, WoodUddge.
Oeoqraphical {6*»> S. u. 308, 35D, 397.)—
R. M— M, who undertaken to answer the question
of R. E. A,, on the supposition that it relates to
English time only, although the pnipo^er professed
to have consulted " m.my of the best authorities,
French and English," must have a very imfjet-
fect knowledge of the subject ho writes aboTit,
The reckoning of time by Efistern Longitude by
no iiicans ends at Fiji, as he imagines ; there are
ChriKtiuns at Tahiti and at Pitcaim's Island who
still reckon by Eaatem time, and who will obs«?rvc»
the dawn of Christmas-day seveml hours souner
than those at Fiji. But even if it were not so»
R, M— M would atill be wrong, for it is not n
que&tiiui of commralivo h»ngitudc at alb At
Auckland, New Zealand, which is not so far eiut
as Fiji^ tlie ma will rise on Christmas morn earlier
by two or thK'C hours thiva at fV^v.
--*-■-
438
NOTES AND QUERIES.
R, E. A.*s question is Incapable uf solutloa
Ho raiglit asivcll ask where an tinl^roken (?;^g-&hell
begins or ends, or ^vliich piirt of ei ruuning wheel
cornea to the jtjround first ! I retueraher an article
upon this subject in the first series of ** N, ^ Q,/*
by your old correspondent A* E. B,
FfiJSNcn Probtujiciation (5i*» 8. iL 3(^«, 415.)—
Thftt iouA was mode to rhyme with houu in
KngUab secius quite certain, and it was even
spelt so OS to ensure thiij pronunciation* In the
Englijsh tmniJution of the trench pluy i* M^Ule^in
malip'c Lui, published in vol v. of Tht (^mic
Theatrfif London, 1763, the following example* of
this are found : —
« SffaitardU. Ko^ th« devil fetoh me If I bate a Momt**'
A^uin :—
" SffiinareUf. Oh t sir, 1 '11 not touch a fiirthing.
Oeronto. Bir.
Oer* I d«sire^ hit,**
W. H. Pattbr^on*
Peculiar TaBATMBKT or Wokds, &c. (ft^ S.
L 247 ; ii. 90, 197, 336, 417.)— Abmrt forty-five
years ago, being' on a pedestrian tour near Bar-
mouth, I was recommended by the lundlord of the
inn nDt to take the new hxmI more level rtmd, but
the old road, which at one point eommi'\nded a
fine riew all round. The ^elsh boy who was
sent with uie to sbow me the place ciukd it Pen
famah (good Welsh, I imagine)^ but a more
^ucuted resident at the next place I cAmo to
gave me the history of the word : a [xirty of
tonmtd half-a-dozen years before had dcchired it
quite a panorama^ and the word, parch detoHun^
being caoi^'ht up, romidned. C. P. E,
RictrAHD Swift, Siieriff of I^ondon {^^ S. ii.
333, 416.)— Ma, EoiiusD Lenthall Svvifte very
vaguely speaks (p. 333) of a " Sir Somebody
Swift "' as having bt en Sheriff of London ** about
fifty years ago." He add« that *' he had been a
shoemaker, and, for ought I know, was christened
Francis." Allow m© to say that ho was not
chriBtened Francis ; that be was not a Sir Some-
body, as he was never knighted ; and that it is not
yet half fifty years since ho was sheriff. The gentle-
man in question, Mr. Richard Swift^ served the
office in the year 1B51-2, was a wholesale leather
merchant, and wjia M.P. for Sligo county, as a
*^ Li bend " (and, I believe, a Roman Catholic),
Trom 1852 to 1857. He died, unknighted, in
March, 1872. Ai.fred B. Beaven'.
Prestoa.
The Rev, Thomas Gabb (5**» S. ii. 249, 333,
3!>9.)— Mr. Gubb was also the author of Tkoughtx
on the Cri^ation and on tlu t^ytirm* of Astranomyf
pp. lOOf 1S12, He opposed the Copernican and
I believe some copies ol Va%
Newtottinn systenw.
Fini* Fyrjmidis henr the imprint ** Jn^tTi Tnyltrr,
Retford.-' It may not b
this John Taylur, who v,
removed to London, and tl\c
LrreHtly respected hea*i of * ull
*^Tojlor & Walton," publi^Jicri t
Uuiveraity. I think Mr. Tavlor n-
don about 1806. H^ ' " ;i<^
P^ra VI id. Ult y i vo it 1 1
published by Longnmn cv < u., io.*.»,
Robert WmTt
Workfiop.
An America^ Eulogy qn Wo3rF,?r f5^ ^, Kl
147.) — I send a cutting takcQ out <ii
plac^ book, which appears to be the
enlotfy on women inquired for. I u uu X J
do not know the date, nor in whrr »|)-]
peiired, but certainly it was an Eny^
"An AnKRiCAF Respoitdino to thk TkiI
LAbiEs/— The following WM ' ' '' Tar-i
OCT lit the Correspondent^' C u ;— ]
* Mr. Preiidcnt,— I love the , ^'tt, i
irre^fMJctivo of a^e or colour. (ImughUi
gcnces cannot estimate what we owe to v
sewi on our huttonsi, mr ' ' "'
at Iho church fares, sh<:
ever ehe can tiiid out u
the neighbouri. (LaughU'r.) SLo k*'*'^^ "^ aJvict^iiiJ
plenty of it; aho gives a piece of her mind boinettme*,
and ftomo tunes all of it. (I>aughterJl Whiiuvcr roa
place woman, Sir, she is an ornamrnt to that puee
which she occupkB, and a treasure to the world, (itert
the speaker pauMd, looking round upon hta ttuditon
ifiijutrin^lj.) Tlie applauii^ OQght to come in it tli>i
point. (Ureat laughter.) L -^^ "* r^u..,r..t, . i.,.i it
DesdemDriA, look at Florence ?
Borgia, (Voices, " No, no.",|
ere tia elide. (Irfiughter) Louk u/
of •* Oh, oh," and Jaiighttr.) You
unless yon want to; but Ere \^
particularly before the fashion
Iftughter.) I repeat, Sir, look at
Macree, look at Lucy Stone, Icnjk ^
look at Oeorgf^ Francia Train— u
Sir, I say it with a bowed head ,
look at the mother of Wushinfrton, she ilriM£K«^*i ^V ' *
boy that could not lie. Could not lie ! II nu^Ui bttf
been different hod he belonged to a Xewfinpapej* C<>n«'
spondcnta' Club. (Groana, histc9, criei of *'Ful bti"
outj" and liiughier.) I repeat, Sir, that in wbatev^r
position you place a woman, &be is au ortiatiuiit ia
eociety, and a treasure to the world. A« a »wccibcaLrl»
she hue few equals, and no superior- t.. .i . .. w
a cousin, she ii convenient ; a^ a ^^
with an incurable difitemper, she i-^
What would the people of the earth be
They would be scarce, Sir, perfectly ^
laughter.) Then let us cherish her, let ^ ^ . . . - ,
let U4 Kiro her our support, our encourugtrttieiit, our
ivmpathy, oursclvea, if wv ;*et a fhjmre fLnir*hffr^
But jesting aside, Mr. I'
heart, i;radous, beaut
deference. Not nny i, . _
health right cordially in this goblet o1 wir
and every out of U8 hoA known, luted, and hu^.
bcft of tiicm oil, his own mother,' (Great appuu*cj
ma
6«8.n. Nov,28,7t]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
439
T imn;^inc Db. Dixon is mistaken in ajscribing
r Woman "he to our side
We have no "]i nga^here;
LO;u Imiuoiisu never whip thtir sjllububs to such
I fi vrvlumc on such a theuie : and the reference to
Inh all over, and probjibly
lie when I read the " note ** \
inu iHiL Kuir- ni my uwn judgnieiif, I asked the
iHuthor of the excellent index to Pcrmlical Lite-
fruture, n atandnrd work with us on these matters,
I iind received this note from him : —
•'Dear Sir* — I never saw the uddreii referred to in
► 'K. it Q.,' n«ver hcArd of it, don't believe tLorc ever
► mus ftucli iwi iwldrcM, Never heard of *p<5tinj retuliogs '
iSn America, There might have been such a j>« d'r^Ht
Jin ft TictvfpAper, but I duu't betfftve it vr&A an ftddrcas dt
■/Kfo, Wm. Poole/'
I ffoe^s*. then, this in the truth. The thing was
,^, ■" ''•■ -'«nd; was cnnfiidered by gmne enter-
over here to bo a piece of excellent
1 opied without uny reference to its
o, according to the use and wont of
e a man amon^ us when we want to
i fame for the mere oiithiy of paper
I I ilk. BOBKRT COLLYRR.
GUic«ia.
^titfrrnAtieatitf.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ko.
^ThfGrct'iUe Mr mom : a Journal of (h Hiign 0/
" 'J t' IV. and King IVUUam IF, By
htirlcs G. F. Greville, Esq., Clerk
Ticil to their Majesties, Editeil by
ve, Registrar of the Privy Council,
i I ion. 3 vols. (Longmans & Co.)
wiio, vvuitini4 for ihe second edition of the^e
' r^nrirkn}?!
an* I
fiu«A^tmn
fthnn tbf
memoirs and jouraals, felt somo fear
be what i» allied ''an improved
banish all finri^ty. The second
' pidly-exhausted
( juore enjayuble,
iciOt'Ut " lohm^l tlie srenef</* is intact,
*day history of two reignf*, and of the
dorijig thc-se reigns, is preserved. The
hich startled ho many roadtj-^s Btill nuUte
record of ^^ * • ' iiity which existed in
jind t iita andconclusiouB of
rilist irr, ..Tir.t;s of observation
-ions.
\, : lie two reigna in
th«re was no moie unpretending man
qnipt^ trentlemanly Mr, GreviHe. To
s bis enjo3rment ; to dissect it,
V. Amotij^ th«^ rmibiHonf5 men
moved w n
'lint* th«--i» I'r
^dUcern how fooli«ih were ¥cme of those
who were accepted as vdia par cxctUinei, ** Bacred
Majesty " hn^ suffered most at the hands of Mn
Greville. His rovelatiojis of what was on and
about the throne of George lY. excit« a burlesque
horror. One shudders iit groaij facts, and yet cannot
refrain from laugh tug at the actor. The personal
revelationy, ag^do, of the Sailor King and his
Court are, so to spcjik, horridly burlesque in
character. The pfraonages aeem to be continmilly
on the point of breaking out into comic songs and
still more comic dancefj. Whether aa satirist, his*
torian» or social censor, Hr. Greville shines with
equal brilliiUicy in every character. There will
probably never be half to good a history of the
two kingiS and their times uf may be found in
these diversified pages. They form a wonderful
phanttiaraagoria. oi lii'e. At the opening, w© find
shadows and fi^ure^ belonging to the piwt ; And
further on, ahsidows that assume to be immortal
substances ; and figures that (as they fade in their
turn) prove to be not so permanent as they thought
them«elve8. And when this part of the roll of
hist or)* is broken otf (the rest being for our grand-
children), we encounter freak actors of ki«tory
Imping on to the stage. In 1H34 (December 6),
Mr, Cireville thus ispeaks of a new player looking
for an engugement, and not quite decided as to bi9
line of character :—
** The Chancellor called on :iie josie rd ay, about gsiting
yount; Di^r&^lt into IWHament (through the ia«aii9 of
Georgo Beutinck) for Ljun. I liad told him Georife
t^ anted a good man to ai^tst in turning' out Willinni
Lenno3c, aad he iuggeated the abovenaniel jrcntleman,
whom he called a friend of Chandos. Ilr^i poliiical
principles must, bovrcver, be in abeyance, for ho said
that l^urham wa« doing ali he could to get htm « by the
ofTer of a seat, and to forth. If, therefore, he is un-
decided and waverinK between Ch«indo« and Durham,
he muet bo a mighty impartial personage, I don*t think
Buch a mail will do, thcugb just such sb Lyndhuret would
he connected with,'*
Such a man has done, nevertheless.
n-
n&u of Laml^y : a JStO$'i/ of tn^ tourt or
tAe Oidm 'Time, By Emtl> Sarali Holi
Tjiis rUiv ifuctcds fratn fue byn of the authoi'cu of
Mvtrr.rx Mttrtferv iifi<l SutUr iiO$t\ favourably noticed
snir-'-- ' -;...-.,.,. I, .... , ^■'.■.■;ji^^ it liT a >'■"'•■-'■ '•'i-jry,
in' t.iul fcneo r.f lit-
re utof *'tht? \- f a
piSrptti 1 iiusral torture." A few t%fh
^raplii ven of the chief persons wh^m
Mifs llu.v .,,.i .. iito bcr volume, and thu« an in-
structive and well-written etory \s made doubly usefiib
liay we point out that, in the notice of Ariindeb the
word *' consecrated " ii used twice nnneceearily when
speaking of the translation of the Bishop of Ely (1371)
to York in !3J?8, and Canterbury in 13VH ?
^oHcrU \^ Corrtliionirrttttf.
Marsh LANit. — The writer who bepins a note in the
thirrl person, and falle into the lirf t, woutd» tindoabtedfyp
be cofuidered in fualt. NcsverthelciB, the note mtcht oto
440
NOTES AND QUERIES.
ftical ftutbority for th« clinupc of penon. Set the KptJf*
Ufla ArtfAuMr ad Lycetam (Frop«rttiii, it, 3) —
** Hajc Ar«tliu«& euo mittU m»ndatar Lycotse,
Cam totic« ftbjsU^ si potea esw ni«ua/'
T. BiBn.— •■ Hoppetr u fim»ll ficTd 8«o ** N, A: Q./' 2^
S, vii. 157. '* Pightel/" iti meArving* "X. & Q.,*' !•* 8.
Hi. 3&1 ; ix. 443, 489 ; 4^" B. U. 220, 287,
PoBLRT askf, '* Ii tlierc n 2<uiiii««ff directory of Belgium
pnbUabed. also a list of tlie clergy connected fvith the
cborches throughout that country f"
L» I,—** Genius is but p«fseverance*" Se« " X & Q./'
4*'' S. T. 41 ; ix. 280, 374, !J93. 449, 522.
TAUST^Ji^urifsrs.— "AtMter/' See "K. k Q./* 1** S,
i. 307, and the references there giTon.
W, A. B.— Wilkie'9rA«i?farfi«^o/ft TTt/^ WM painted,
**0i for tbo King of BaY«m, ana it now at Munich.
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411
LOJTDOy, gJUtrttDAT, DK^JSHl^im s, im*.
CONTB^Ta— 5* 49,
a, i47^'*ThB Meniolri of tbo
FraplMr'*— Ai"»a, 44g — WilUim »leif«is — •• BlUon "—
fiSFI ^'Til ami Afodem L&Ud and Gf«ek V^rw,
44 . ' - ton , 4viU —clichniicudden—"' FrorUleDoe on
14k i. ^ ^ i^nmi batulloiu": "'Oaotta et EpigmiDmei,
Mr l» Cii. ' ' ' %" 451 — PuflMMUcA MoQoj Onton— '' Ancc-
dote Uv«i "— '' UltitDA' M n Gli^tUn Name, i5i -Beven&l
^^ of DlpbiboTist — Atiito — CuTiooft Hiatoricid ReUtions—
^H Guneo, 4A3— a««»* Brmving— Htitler's "nudibrM"— EfTctl
^B of SUti— "The SUvie"— Suffolk Wordt-Tlie Marrlaso of
^M ib^ ».iri..ti,. .s,,4 ti,.. Hofe of Venice, 454— The IVnnlnatloii
^B 'M PUcw-"Wiiik ■— Tlio YewTnMt ftt
^H Pki Sottoa — Ati Old Bookjfiller, 46&-
^H "lii.* ...>.. ,,.,..,. — *'a*nad(ni"— Port- - ' n— The
^H Pferabi« ol Ue mo« only Kid ''—A]e»in , • q "^
^B •*1^iianieKtiorth«Tfrelre rAtriftivhs ' Word
^m •• "!>.., ' IT <^., .. * -^fl« Buried in "^ ^ -
^V Bor ' — Leetotes bjr "
^B mtLL ** As BOOQd JiS It
IP ''ik*. i.^^ 1 -■"- V- ^uki,^iineafai«Bij»— Bull !>(>.. ,.iti-iuo
WqiammM^n 8tiiue In Uiet^stcr Siiu&rc, I5i,
ffoUioa Book IV ^c.
IKCIBKT VKSTMEXTS AT ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE,
OXPORa
The vifie and «_ 'on of ccclesm-
r#*«trrTfnts m ^Mitury renders
[t nofcon.-i erest, Huving
-eTeritl, vn , whicL are now
LI V prcicrve^i in Arch bis kop Laud's Library
Johtt'd ColloLje, I venture to send you a
|bf the Aame. .' * - ago they were
red frotn tlir i;^'in;^ to their
Hi |>liicc, wlietf LJK V iMHv ne inspected, Ln
llnction with the originjil MS. Diary of the
>i-. -kuli-c2ip of sc'irlefc
1, his walking-stick
r*. nili-, iMitiiry paa-
ith fteverid
. ^ -nts tire as
bttoir :—
^ An nTtrple cnpc of blue velvet daomak, with
tliroughout, the pattern
\ pmne^ranalp^. The
•nth-
jh of
.. the booii, jind
, ijicJudin;» SS.
iif w, an archbishop
lolh in which he v,
vluU'
:Ujn
tauiticks, powdered
tiowerH^ the or-
f i>4>wd«?red with
2. Two y]<:
with ei
phreys <
gold flowers.
3. A white satin cope to nmtch, probably c^ the
yenr 1475 or thereaboutB.
4. A small iiltar tifitep^ndium of crimBOn velTet|
uji >i Iki'iA-n,
effective representa-
ijf the Assumption of
're is alternateiy
I e- headed eagles.
fieur-de-lya, all
in the centre of ^
tion in excellent »
Our Lady. The
powdered with eii
cherubim standiu;
in gold.
5. Another small altar antependiiim, with the
Crucliixion in the centre, pound about which are
four emViroidered belk (poasibly lieraldic devices
of the donor), cherubim on wheels, and various
effective and rich conventional tiowerSj with grace-
ful trailing tendrils in gold thread.
6. A richly embroidered cross of a chasuble, the
centre of which contains Our Lady throned with
Our Blessed Lord in her lap, with a kneeling
angel censing on either side. Other figures re-
pi^^ented ap[Ksar to be those of the apostles, in-
cluding St, Janiea and St* John.
7. An orphrcy and hootl of a cope. On the
hood is the Annunciatii ^ ' ' lown the orphrey
are sninta in pairs und* lo and depressed
canopies. This piece ' lory is xsrobably
of the date of 1520^ or i h.
8. Two faded crinif. i ......* tntependiums of
red dflinask (cirm a.d. 15<iO).
9. Two critii<<m silk lnumtrs ricLlv painted and
gilded. In [uare, with
rectangular In . im, fringed.
On one is a vigoruu* a|id artistic representation of
the A«8uniption of the Blessed \ irgin ; on the
other a standing figure of St. John the BaptLit
[the patron saint of the college). Below, on
sliiek^ are representations of Our Lord's five
sacred wounda. The style of pointing is vigorous,
bold and effective.
10. There is likewise a large and wcll-stuffed
altar pillow of damask, rich and stiff with intricate
but debased embroidery, in high relief, of the
Jacobean or e.irly Caroline enu On it is repr<*-
sented the Nativity, togetlicr with the Adoration
of the Three King-*.* In the Lfiudian revival such
piUowa aj>pear to have been commonly placed on
the bfick of the 1i<dv Lililo. either to allow a large
volume of tl > i rt-s to lie open or else
to rest an aim the pillow.
Fiut>ii;tticK (iKOEcK Lee, B.C.L.
All Saintf' Vicarage, T^mbeth.
r.S. While I 111 [bject, Iir. f,
I hnvc* rf^CAnfly ip old set of : o
w-r A in u leather box in the Library
of \\ Tnitlition, as the librarian
Courr»^'!M<iy nitniiied me, give* them cither to
Cardinal Pole or to one ot Vua cWT^Jwa^sjia- 'T^ws'i
^dttH^^Mi
M
442
NOTES AND QUERIES.
l5'^aILJ>■a^74.
consist of chasuble, stole, maniple, and girdle.
The material is of a mixed foreign texture, scarcely
(as I believe) earlier than the middle of the seven-
teenth century. I cannot accept the Pole tradition.
The chasuble is fiddle-shaped, and the ends of the
stole and maniple are like a shoveL I am aware
that, in the well-known painting of St. Ignatius
Loyola, he is represented in such a shaped sacri-
ficial vestment. But I do not think tnis set is
much more ancient than the time of Charles II.
or James II. It is unembroidered, and of no
artistic interest.
NOTES ON THE ARMS IN "NORTHEEN" ROLL
TEMP, RICHARD II.
1. John, Btcond son of Adam de Blencowe, of Cumber-
land, who lived Ump, Edward III. The Blencowes
quarter ^., a canton ar. (Jefifergon, History of Cumber-
kind, I 388).
3. Calendar In^. Post Mortem, iii. 59, anno 7 Ric. XL,
P.M. of John LeTington, of West Levington, Cumberland.
CaL iii. 294, anno 6 Hen. IV., prob. setafc. of John, son
and heir of John Levington, Cumberland.-
6. Cal. iii. 245. Wiirum Fether in P.M. of widow of
Earl of Northumberland.
6. Same as arms of Thirlewall in Visit, of York, Harl.
MS., No. 1420, and Thirwall in Edmondson.
7. Compare Willement, Roll of Ric. II., No. 227.
"Monsr. Richard de Kyrkeby— Ar., 2 bars gu., on a
canton gu., a cross moline or.'*
9. Arms of Skipton (Edmondson), Ar., an anckor, ea.
10. Amand Monccaux, Sheriff of Cumberland, anno
5, 7 and 9 Ric. II. Cal. iii , anno 22 Ric. IL, in P.M.
of widow of Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland.
"Amand Monccux, Cumberland."
15. Arms same as those of " Monsire John Chamber-
layn"in "Cotgrave's" Roll of Edw. III., published by
Nicolas, p. 26.
16. Arms same as those of "Monsire William de
TVistowe."— /6irf., p. 16.
18. Cal. iii. 254, anno 22 Ric. II. ** Will'us CJtauney
ch'r licencia feoffand' " (relates, among others, to lands in
•• Skirpenbek maner, Ebor."). Arms of Chawneyt Yorks
(Edmondson). gu., a cross patonee ar., on a chief az., a
Hon passant or (1 agreeably to roll).
19. Blennerliassett of Carlisle, Cumberland (Jeff.).
Arms of Blererhasset (Edm.), Gu., a chevron inter 3
dolphins, ar.— of *' blamerhaset " (Harl. 1420, fo. 253^),
Gu., a feu erm. inter 3 dolphins. . . .
20. Cal. iii. 245. Anno 22 Ric. II., in P.M. of widow
of Earl of Northumberland, " Joh'em de Eglesfeld, Cum-
berland."
21. Cal. iii. 8 and 55. " Cotyngham maner, York."
22. Compare WiUement, Roll of Ric. II. 274, " Mons'
Robt. Sleghfc— Or, a cheyron inter 6 cross croslets in
chief, and 4 in base, sa."
23. Anno 20 Ric. II., in P.M. of Sir John de Bello
Monte, •• Will'us deSkremby,l fee in Skremby, Cumber-
land."
24. Sir John Chandos, Knt. of the Garter, was slain in
Gascony anno 44 Edw. III. He bore ar., a pile gu.
{vide his shield in Smith's Antiquities of Westminster) or
the reverse of the coat in the roll, which seems to haye
belonged to a subsequent personage of same name.
26. CaL ii. 10. Anno 1 Ric. II., " W« de Sandford "
and others in co. York. Harl. MS. 1420, in the Roll of
Yorkshire Knights temp, Edw. I., gives the arms of
Sandford a« party per cherron, sa. and erm., in chief 2
29. Arms nme ai those of "Le Sire de Wldnm."
Cotgraye'i Boll of Edw. III^. 26w
33. VisitaUon of York (HarL 1420) givM aiBi of
Eltoft as in the roll, but no coat for BeHaab.* The
followug dMcents are extracted from the pedigrea ^tnm
of the latter family, i.e.,
«W"Bellaasif,lS16.
John Bellani^ 1865.
John Bellanis, of HentnaU, 1898, deed 1880.
Robert, 1403. W-."
84. Anna same aa those of "Monaire de SomerrDe:''
Cotgraye's Boll of Edw. III., p. 48.
36. WiUement, Roll of Ric. II. 446. " MoniT HiektMi
Story — Ar., a lion rampant queue forcbie pupae,
charged on the shoulder with a cross paitt or."
39. Cal. iL p. 6. '* W» Wyyille," mentioned in P.lf.
of Count of Atooll as holding Sledmere, anno 1 EdwrllL
Cal. iL p. 164. "Agnes ux' WUrus de Wyyill, Sledmere,
York." Anno 24 Edw. III.
41. "Segar"RoIl (Harl. 3fS., No. 6187, folio 65-3).
" Jioherd le fizneel "—Paly of 6 ar. and gu., on a fcss ax.,
3 mullets pierced or.
43. Arms of Horsley, Yorks (Edm.), same as BolL
45. Compare ** RoVt Malet ''— Ar., 3 buckles sa. "St
George^" Roll (Harl. 6137, folio 87" 10).
46. Compare "Henry de longeuile" — Gu., a fees dsn-
cett^, and the field crusill^e, ar. " Segar" Roll (foli»
62" 7).
48. Cal. ii. p. 807. Anno 45 Edw. III. "Eyauxor
Rob'ti de Bennale"— P.M. Arms of Bennall, in Ed-
mondson, same as Roll.
60. Willement, Roll of Ric. II. 599. "... Hercy-
Gu., a chief ar."; or a reyersal of the tinctures in the
Roll.
51. Arras of Cosington, of Kentj az., three roses (rarely,
cinquefoils pierced) or. This was eyidentlj a northern
represent atn'e of that great family.
55. " Cotgrave's " Roll of Edw. III., p. 29. " Monsire
Boteyill [(^y. Bosevilll, port d'argent, une fes engrele
giles de iiij, trois feuitUs de sable." Willement, Boll of
ic. II. 478. " Mons' John Bosyill— Ar., 5 fusils in fesi
gu., in chief 3 martlits sable."
58. Cal. ii. p. 202. " Constancius de Mortno Man
ch'r, Kyngeston maner. Cambs." — Anno 31 Edw. Ill*
"Cotgraye^i " Roll of Edw. III., p. 48. " Monsire Ctm-
stantine de Mortymer, or, fiourte de jUure de lit saUe^ u
peds agus."
59. " Cotgraye's " Roll, p. 47, " Monsire de Apleby ";
and Willement, Roll Ric. IL, ** Mons' J?J1llon(IAppelby^'
same arms as Roll.
60. Roll of York Knights temp. Edward I. (Harl.l4»,
folio 253) giyes same arms as Roll.
61. Cal. ii. p. 306. Anno 44 Edw. III. P.M. of
" WilVus de Queldryk, Yorks."
62. The only Clement in the Skelton pedigree was
Knight of the Shire fur Cumberland, anno 2, 16. 17 sid
20 Ric. II. (Jeficrson). Arms of Skelton, Harl. 1120,
folio 255— Az., a fess inter 3 fleur de-Iis, or.
63. Compare arms of Tereby in Edmondson— Ar., so
estoile as. (or gu,), and on a chief ax., 3 water bougets, or.
64. The arms of Aglionby, of Carlisle, Cumberlaad,M
giyen by Jefferson and Harl. MS. 1420, folio 253^
65. Cal. ii. p. 193. P.M. of " Wiirua de Hoton./ortf'
* It has been suggested to me that a BeUassif a^
haye married an Eltoft heiress, and hence the <
of the names in the roll.
6»»8.1I. Dtc.6,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
443
iarw Rtgift Cumberlft&d.'* Anno 19 Kte> XL AmiB of
HotoD, Yurlu (Hmri. 1120, folio 263), pamc tu RolL
The evidence afforded bv ft cotuparison of several
of the foregoing natee wUl be allowed, I think, to
be strongly denionstrative of the fiict, that the
tirincipal portion of the persona entered on the
KoU did not flourlah Later than the close of the
reign of Richard 11. But the copy in the Harleinn
MS. ia without title, and «ome might suggest that
it ia merely a transeript of n fragment of a larger
iftneral collection. The circumstance, however,
that a large proportion of the entries refer only to
ncffihtm fauuliea will surely be sufficient to pre-
vent any other construction being put upon the
it<icument as it stAnds, than that it is the transcript
of a roll which was (although, of courie, possibly in
a Br»mewhAt nuirmented formj as eBsentially a local
record as the Roll of York Knights ttmp. Edw, L
in Hy^ri. MS,, No. 1420. And it is an infinitely
preferable authority to the latter, because the
York Roll, although of much greater length, gives,
generally speaking, only the surname, which, as a
natural consequence, renders it next to valueless
for purpose?* of genealogical research.
That our Roll is not Bimply a series of extmcts
from Jenyns*s Ordinary (although perhaps one or
two of his examples may have been culled from
the original of which it wiw a copy), is evidenced
by the £iict that but tew of the names in it are
included in that collection, and in some of these
isolatefl initances even the arras do not tally.
Jambs Grebnbtrbkt.
aOMB BKQLISH WORDS COMPARED WXTB
THE ICBLANDia
The following etymologies are taken from the
I Clcflsby-Vigfufison Jcclanaic-Engluh Dictionary :
Breap. IceL Brau^, This word was^ in early
: iimi^, unknown in its present sense, Ulfika
.constantly renders apros by hlaibs; the old A.-S,
~ also has hldf, and the old henthen Scandi-
_ iiku poems only hkifr. In the old A--S., brcdd
^nr only u«ed in the compound beohreM of the
honeycomb ; 0» H» G. hibrod; Germ, beimtihrod;
and this 8eems to be the original sense of the
Down to the ninth century, this word bad
' not its present meaning in any Teutonic diulect,
but waa, tiic it seems, in all of them used of the
honeycomb only. The root of brauH is i>erhapa
I okin to the Lat. fraip-are,
DrrxGEON, This word is compared with Icel.
L^nqj(h, a lady's bower ; A.-S. x>yn^ ; O. H. G.
Tunc; — the common sense being thiit both the
[bower an J the dungeon were secluded chambers in
^tbe t nnfT p;irt of the house or castle. The usual
from L. L. dominiQ (fr. domiiixu^
1 tower commnniliog the rest of the
L1ua;lding.
Eajiu Icel. Earl^Iafit A.^8. Eorl This word
is common to the Scandinavians and Saxons. It
originally meant a man of gentle birth, a warrior,
jis opposed to the Karl or Ceorl^ one of the common
folk. Prof. Munch suggested that the name of
the Teutonic people EruH or HeruU simply r^
presents this word, which the Roman writers took
to be a proper name. In the ancient Scandinavian
poetry, "jarl'* is used = a man, cp. the phrase
" jarla einbani," eaTl^slayeT =: dpSpoKroi^o^. The
jyiclionary does not give the root idea of the word.
Max Miiller believes it to be a contraction oiald-ot
(senior), ddtt. So Lappenberg.
Emancipate. Lat. m<incip%umy a slave. Man^
Icel. (a neuter word) a bondman, probably origin*
ally of prisoners of war who were sold as slaves*
This word appears in O. H. G. mana-houbit = a
bondsman's head. Query, is the etymology of
Lat. man-cipium man and caput f
Ladt. A.S. J3/tf/-(Zi^c=bread-maJd. The -cft^e
is the Ice!, dtigjuy a dairy-maid. Ikigja seems to
have mesnt originally a baJuT-it^omaHt and is akin
to dcig^ " dough," aud Goth, deigaitj " to knead,"
the same person being in old times both dairy-
woman and baker to the fann. Max Miiller de-
rives ff?rt/-tfi-^e from Hldf-we/iTdigt^y the feminine
of Hliif-wtard (lord), the warder of bread.
Road. Connected with Ital. rotta., Fr. route^
vm nipta. So Icel Braut (road) is formed from
brjota to break. The common etymology is from
to ride.
Old Scratch. Cp. Icel. Skratii (akin to Swed.
aJiratt€t=to laugh loud and harshly). (I) a mzardj
eiidianter; (2) a goblin^ momter; (3) in mod,
usage a devil^ imp.
Merry, " Merry Engbnd/' ** my rrierry men."
Cp. IceL ^ftrrr, famous, glorious ; vurrir tivar
** the merry (i, e. famous) gods." So Sir W. Scott,
Lady of the Lake^ notes to canto iv.
Shilling. Icel. gJcilliftgrf »kildingrj perhaps a
derivative from skilduij Goth.^" a shield."
Sibyl. Lat. SibylU, Gr. ^iBvXka. May not
the Greek word and the Korae Vblm be relations?
The identity in sense is very striking. May it
not have been adopted from some Scythian tribe?
In Volva an initial « has probably been lost. The
Volm was a prophetess, held in heathen times in
the highest honour and reverence. Max Miiller
connects SibyUa with an Italian aabus or sabius^
and says it meant a wise old woman.
Sin. Icel. Synd^ prop. *' a denial,*' referring to
denial by oath of compurgators, ordeal, or the like.
The root verb is sijnja^ ** to deny."
Snob. Query, is it connected with Icel, sndpr f
In the ancient law mdpr is a person who falsely
boasts of having dishonoured a woman. In modem
IceLf when a married man breaks the seventh
commandment, and to escape punishment hires
another person to bear the blame, this latter Is
called snapr^
Weird. A»S. nV<^I^t<i«il,Uf^T^N}si^'Wi3Sifc^^^
444
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[5*^ a U. Dm. S^ '74.
to the fii^t of the three Nonis^ the Gernkoii Farctt.
The name mKj=faitim^ what is apokeiif thi fiat
of Destinj, and be cognate with wofd, led. OrS.
So Bosworth- Max Miillef a&ys WHrd meant
origmaily ihi Fait {dm Gewordene), agreeing with
Grimm, A. L, Matebw.
Shamspeahk^b K'ami (5"^ S. iL % 4O50— What
li meant by stijiDg that " Fcwtarspeare b, doubt-
lesSj a loiial Huraame/' I cftunot understand* Just
u 8hakespeaje means a luan who shakes a iipear,
just as Breakspear means one who hreaki a epear^
BO Fewtarspeare meana one who fmatart orfiutru
a spear, i. e.^ who Jayi it in re«t.
" Uis JiMan h« /eiifftd, and at him It bora j *'
I do not Beo why Englbh etymology should be
considered a fit subject for such unintelligent
guesswork Walter W, Skkat,
Ij Ciatra Terra<]«, Oamhridgo.
"Brims" (5«» S. il 282.)— The following I Lnes,
from A Fragmetit by Kit Marlowe^ Hetties I think,
the question whether the word *' brims " has a re-
ference to the margin of & bank or riyer ; —
" I walked aJong a strewn^ for pnrwicia rare,
* « « « #
Upon thti frrtm, the «g1anttne etnd Tote,
TliQ tBiD&riskj olive^ iiliI th<? aimoad tree,
Ai kind ctUDpaaioas in one unic^n grows."
Dyce'i Afflf^oip*, p, 3S2,
B. S.
TnE IlARNBSa SHAKSrEARB PRITB EfiSAT (5»*
S. ii 405.)—
" nie ditclosw
Will be iomc danger, which /or io ^jfifwuf,
I have , . « tliuB Bet it down.
This "for to prevent'* h^ I submit, no "au-
thentic iostano?." The First Folio has : —
*' There ^fl aomctlilng in liis toale ?
0*re which hia M^lanchollj Btia on broodi
And I do doubt the hatch, and the disel««e
Will be lome danger^ wjikh to preneat
T hauo in qukke datetminutiQn
Thui set It downe."
Btanntou'd Fae-SimiU Rtprint.
The Second Folio has also "to prevent.*' The
rhythm surely does not require the " which for to
preTcnt " of the Quartos, the reading most modem
editor! follow, with the exception, however, of
Charles Knight, who keeps to the Fit^t Folio,
The Third and Fourth Folios have "Aoic to pre-
vent," and this Dr, Johnson gives iji his Text
(Dublin edition, 1771).
I think the line should be printed as' the Fint
and Second Folios have it ; bnt, at any rate, " for
to prevent^' is no "ttnthttifu instance of the use
of such a form in Shakspf^are/' nntl ^Ir* Eires is so
&r correct. Sparks Hendersox WtLLtufS,
Eenmugton Crescent, W.
iLLrsTfiATina.^^ — I believe tluLt the taite for
illustrating hooka may be reckoned aa a ^' tevivii';
it was, I fancy, more general £% veazft ago Ihu it
ia now. In a pre&ce to J. ft Anmy§i9 o/ ikt IUm'
ifnted Shakmfeare of Tk^fmm Wihfm^ Miq>, pnh-
lished in 1820, it is stated i—*' Thi porpoMi d
illustration are io obvious, that it Is hudlj neoM-
saiy to allude to them ; few of th^ preTttiHpgtiitei
of the day stand less in noed of ftpolegy or ix*
tenuation/' la this matter, the AmeiicazkA ham
taken the lead ; and for soma jeaxB p«it hftve not
only been the chief buyers of illoBlrated boak^
but have imported enip^vings suitaible for illwtfrir
tion to an extent that has appreciably a&eted ihttr
veJne in this country, and rendered many of Ibcn
exceedingly scarce.
The book that haa received most attention in this
way, in both countries, is Br, Poran's well-known
woiii Thdr Majistia' *S^n*flate, of which there
was an issue in Kew York, on lar^ pc^P^r, spedaUj
for thia pu^xMse. This seleciion ia not to ba
wondered at ; the work it^f is a complete histoty
of the Btage^ and a proper collection of engnviip
for it is a complete illustration of the aubjeot.
I wishf witn permission, to put on record tbe
particulars of tli^ copy I have just finiehed, sfid
which, I flatter ray self, is more perfect than any
that has yet been cione« The two volnmes are ex-
tended into aeven, both letter^press and engraviagi
bein^ inlaid in quarto size. The^ contain orer
IfiOO portroitSj b^idefi about 130 views, and othir
illuBtratione ; a few photographs from Lurge platfs
and &oni others I have not been able to obtain.
Each volume haa an index to the illustrations, 6iA
the whole is now in the hands of Mr, Riviere,
who I have no doubt will do justice to it in the
binding. (Jhables Wtlie.
King Malcolm III. of Scotlanu. — The
students of history are aware that the varioustf
spelt Gaelic name of Canmore, Ceanmore, and
dean Mohr, was added to that of Malcdm ; aL4
that the historians have held it to denote iM
Malcolm had, physically speaking, '^ a Luge head^ '
I would, however, suggest that, in the circam-
stances of ATalcolm's reign, these Gaelic wordi
were originally meant to denote that ]^Iakcibs
was " the great King/*— a meaning which, there caa
be no doubt, the words will b^j with e^^ual pie-
priety, and which, it ia submitted, is the tn»
ni caning, when we take into conaideratioo thftt
Scotland underwent a great change in the reign of
Malcolm, that it was then greatly consolidated,
and that Malcolm reigned long, wisely, and weD^
and over, perhaps, a greater extent of terribofj
than any prior Scottish kiog. In addition to aU
thifty he wa% under the inlSuence of hia Qaeea^
St. Blargarct, acting on his own naturddiiipe«itu»
—a most religious \]ng ; and this combined litb
his other great merits wouldj of ccuise, h&ve j^
{■a. 11. Due. 5, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
U5
most powerful effect in makinj? the priestliorxl
tee whole coturuunrty regurd him as **lhe
at Kinfc,' the pripsthood boin^% ftt the same
in aiici^'nt days.
D^ t the ap]»lic^\tioii of the
I CtMu iuunr to Midculm at the end of
the eleventh or beginning of the twelfth century
9how^ u.rt, nrevalent had been the uae of the
Gael io over fdl Scotland at that tinje.
.MaI',-- ,-- :, ,;u extended from 1057 to 1093.
Hknrt Kllgouti.
ROM TOE Greek. — WiU you add the
aions to those given in **N. & Q.,"
ifin A BtAttm OF ViCTORT At ROMB WHOSB Wl¥OS WEIl£
BCIU^T OFF BX LlOUXiflUQ.
CFr&m the Greek: author unJtnotsn^^
Rome, BoTflreijp Quceu, thy plory wiU not flee,
For wingless Victory cannot fly from thee.
Tqe Kkoeo.*
(From ih€ Orttk of Lucia n.)
Forbear ! 'tu ufteleaa tr^iog
To wmb a Ne^^ro white ;
Yon cannot bring the tunrifto-
By ibouting for the lighe.
GoLi> AKD Clay,
kitaUdfrwn tht Ott^ qf DiodoiuM Zonas.)
I HI drink not from gobleta of gold :
Xo ; giro me a cup mode of clay :
day bore mtf and toon in the muuJd
I aball b1 limber for ayo.
1k% PBTaiciA!?.
fFrom the Oredt of yicarchut, )
2fo ; Pheidon ncrer phy^tcked me,
Wai never near my tide ;
But w ticn fever came I thought of hii name,
And tb&t wfti enough— I dted.
DbATU IfAlLES ALL EvfTTAl.
(From th4 Gml: author uhthOieH.)
I roan irhenalire was a s,hxrc, but belioTd, such h ftiie,
mwmg died, he it eqttal in p«vrer to Dariui tbo Great.
TeARa.
(ImitnUdfr^jfi tht Gr9d\/
Prcr "•^•-i"^- ^^r- r^p^ ^rop tJiy ^^f ^^ gj)^
Fori ejtrs who liea below»
And wQUt3 iif sleep.
BcAiaid.
i fhe Chrttk (>/ A in ni tanut,)
'. liT fellow ; it 'b i:o(Ling too Ionjar>
' ' - " ' '•----■ ''rough the thron
. ory grand,
^iiffil— you uniler-
UsiLicss TftOrBLR.
■' ■ ' PaUadas.)
la eartli ;
:r in tfttu,
II plenty or deartb.
* Itidiaji In the originnL
(From Ikt- Orttl: avth^r WRii'fl9VK.J
I, Dionytitit, ttndemeatb ilih tomb,
Some sixty yeani of a^^o, have reaohed my doom*
Xe'er h&Ting married : thiok'it it sad !
I wish my father never had.
Macaui*at*s "Youkg Lbvite.** — A ftiU dis-
nission tinder thin head (in which I took part) will
be found in the First Series of ** N. & Q,/' and it
would be a pity not to embtvlm the enclosed from
a late number of the Fail Mall Qauitt : —
** There are wdbknown and often-qnoted passages iti
Swift, Maenulfty, Thackeray, and many other author^*
about the position of clergymen iti En^aiid a hundi-ed
and fifty years ago. A curious il lustration occurs tn one
of tho >VincbilieA Papers recently ncqiiired by the
British Museump but not yet calendared or bound. A
letter dated the 8rd of Noreiuberj, ll'Jt^f from .Mr. John
Wilkinson to a noble duke» or possibly to tbeArchbisbop,
but the name does not come out, contains the following;
passage '. —
• Howsocirer some People may sink beneath their Chs-
rsctcrs by reporting Things entirely faJM and ground iets,
I cannot say r but, my Lord, I cou'd nut be easy uritill l hnd
aolomnly assured your Grace that the late Eurl of Win-
chilflea gave me the Presenta4:«ns, in every Respect truly
great and noble ; and that a Wife was nerer whi«peretL
to me till the day after my Lord's Death : then, indeed,
my Lady Herself told me that Her moid MorfTce was
always intended to i^o alon^; with tho Livings, und that
if I desired to make Her Ladysp. my Friend, I racist not
rcfiiie the Offer ; I own, my Lord, I was at first unable
to give a direct answerj hot recovering the sttrprise* I
gave Her Ladysp. an absolute denial, upon which She in
a Passion ordered me to withdrAW, and I bate never
seen Iler Ludjap. iince.'
'* He goes on to eiLplain that the livings had been fire
months vacant, and that Lord Winchil sea appointed him
just before his death as a reward for his attt^T dance ;
that no condition wa« ever mentioned ; and thtt lie was
not the person first * picked upon/ A certain John
Wiiktiison, M. A., is mentioned by Hasted as having lieen
appointed rector of EaetHcU on the 2Gth of May, 173<^.
He resigned in 1733.'*
I have only to add that no leaa than three John
Wilkinsons took the B. A. degree — all from Queen's,
Oxford— between 1712 and 1723 incbisive, nnd
one of the^e must (|) have been MorlTee's rcjicimL
W. T. M.
Shinfleld Grove.
Motljkt's '*LiFB OF JoHN OP Babnevbld !'
AND Gabpar Sciomus. — Mr, Motley, in the
above work, a notes i\ pjissage from Sciojjpius, and
sty lea him *' the JfjfuU Scioppius'' (voL li. p. 100),
Now ScioppiiiK never belonged to the Society of
Jesus, and he niight well b<? cfiUed the scourge of
that body. No individual piirhapa, Pascal ex-
cepted, ever ' ' lueh by the use of litemiy
wciipons to U their overthrow a.'* thiii
fier«:e nod I'l '• Htcr. I have ctjllcct^d
upwimla of t 1 traetfi ujjainst them
undoubtedly v,.... .. .., ...;ii, and which nrc not
enumerated in the carefully prepared list of hia
446
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^&ILDk.5,74.
works in JSiceron (vol. xxxv., art. " Scioppius "),
and there are many more yet existing in manuscript
in the Laurentian Library at Florence and else-
where. He endeavoured to set in motion a general
crusade against them, and, could he have had his
desire, would have exterminated the whole body.
No wonder, therefore, that one of their great heads
should have exclaimed, " I care not for kings and
princes if I could only muzzle that dreadful dog
(canem grammaticum) at Padua." In his last days
he lived a voluntary prisoner in his house at that
city, from a constant fear of assassination by the
emissaries of the Society of Jesus.
Jas. Crosslet.
"Divine Poems, by Christiana," of Bamsbt,
Hunts., 1792. — If I may judge from an experience
of twenty-four years in " collecting," I should feel
disposed to say, that fewer books have been pub-
lished in, and concerning, Huntingdonshire than
any other English county. I have, however,
recently added to my collection of Huntingdonshire
books a copy of —
" DiTine Poems ; tof!:ether with a Journal of our liord's
Qracious Dealings with the Soul of the Authoress [here
follow some texts], by Christiana. Ramsej, Huntinff-
donshire. St. lyes; printed by W. Davin; sold by U.
Terry, Pater- Noster Bow; Hughes and Walsh, in the
Inner Temple; W. Brown, opposite the Council House,
Bristol; W. Eddowes, Shrewsbury; W. Graham, Sun-
derland ; and D. Holt, Newark upon Trent"
There is no date on the title-page, but the Pre-
face, of seven pages, is signed and dated, "T.
Harrison, Ramsey, January 7, 1792." He (or the
printer) speaks of " Appollos," " the apostle paul,"
and "the privileges of zion's children"; and he
says, " Professors of godliness now walk in their
Silver Slippers, entertain their Eyes with the noble
buildings, and elegant dresses, and their Ears with
the harmonious voices, and solemn music, with which
many places of public worship are attended," &c.
The book extends to eighty-five pages. Its prose
portion is in the ejaculatory style, and does* not
l^ive us any particulars of the writer. I would
:isk, Who was this "Christiana"? Some of her
religious poems are well worthy of preservation.
CUTHBERT BeDE.
Augustine Dudley. — Mr. Coleman, the book-
seller, of High Street, Bloomsbury, in one of his
Catalogues (No. xcviii., 1873) advertised the fol-
lowing for sale : —
" Deed between Augustine Dudley of Bamcwell, co.
Northampton, Oent, and Elizabeth Piclcering of the
feame ; relates to land in Benfield, etc. etc., dated 1645."
Who was this Augustine Dudley? Mr. Geo.
Adlard published, in 1862, a work called The
tiiutton- Dudleys of England and the Dudleys of
Massachusetts in New Englandy in which he tried
to show that Grovemor Thomas Dudley of Massa-
chusetts was descended from the Barons of Dudley,
through Thomas Dudley of London, draper, whom
he identifies, on grounds mostly conjectural, witk
Thomas, a younger son of Ediwd, Lord Dudley.
Now, Governor Thomas Dudley is stated in the
same work, on the authority of Cotton Mmther, to
have been bom in the town of Northampton^ ud
to have been at one time a derk to *' Judge NiooUs,"
who was " his kinsman by the mother's side.'*
" Judge Nicolls " must have been Sir Augiutm
Nicolls, who was made a Justice of the Common
Pleas in 1616.
As Mr. Adlard has certainly not proved his cue,
— in my humble opinion, indeed, he has sigaaUy
failed,— perhaps some of your American coos-
spondents who are interested ' in this family mtj
be glad to hear of the existence of a Dadley, living
in Northamptonshire in 1645, and beanng the
same baptismal name as Governor Dudley's " ldn»>
man by the mother's side." It appears to me to
afford a clue to the real ancestry of Governor
Dudley. H. S. G,
Thomas A Ksmpis on Pilgrimages.— In then
days of revived pilgrimages this truly holy min'k
opinion is worth a thought : —
'' Few spirits are made better b^ the pain and hngasr
of sickness, as few great Pilgnmt become cmiiest
Saints."— A Kempis'i Imitation, bk. L ch. 2a.
P.P.
The Parat-le-Monial Pilorimagx.— Hie
Edinburgh Review for January last has an article
on this subject, to which it may be allowed to
append a purely literary note. In looking over s
volume of Voltaire's Works for another purpose, I
lighted upon a reference to —
'' Le Docteur 86raphique,
Subtil, profond, 6nergique, ang61iqae,
Commentateur d'imagination
Et cr6ateur de la confusion.
Qui dcpuis peu fit Marie Alaooque."
A foot-note explains the reference thus : —
''L'Histoire de M.A., ouvrage rare par Texces do
ridicule, compost par Languet, alors ^yeque de Soissoni.
On ferait un ^norme volume de toutes les satires, cbaa-
sons et ^pigrammes que Languet s'attira par la pabliea*
tion de la Vie de M. M, ^/a«07if€,religieo8e de la visi-
tation de Ste. Marie du Monastere de PMraj-Ie-Momil,
en Charolais : Paris, 1729, in ito,'-(Eutres de VoUairt,
vol. ii., p. 271.
D. Blair.
Melbourne.
The Four Marys.— In my communication to
" N. & Q." last week, I find that, trusting to
memory (a bad practice as rewds historical ones-
tions), I misstated the age of Mary Queen of Scots
when she was sent as a child to France. Maiy
was only five years eight months old, not six yesrs
eight months. As stated by Ejiox, and proved by
Prince Labanoff, Mary was bom on the 8th oi
December, 1542 ; she set sail for Fiance about the
7th of August, 1548, and returned to Scotknd on
the 19th of August, 1561. Even at the early age
NOTES AND QUERIES.
447
of jiire yeiiiv ^*^g^^ months^ I imagine that Miirj
had too much Bt!otch to be forgotten during her
Rsidence in France, attended as she was by her
** four Marys," sUl natives of Scothind, imd that on
tbelr return to ScotljiDd^ the young Queen and her
companions would have little difficulty in resuniing
their ontivo tongue, C.
(Wit mint request corre«poiidenta deslriog infonnAtion
' on ly&ily niAtten of only pnmte interett, to affix their
nunes »nd ifeddren^cs to their qa^riefl, in order thftt the
annrer* may be eddreseed to them direct. 1
"Thk (Solden Meane.*' — Is anything known
of the author of ft little book with this title, which
has come into my hands { There is not, so far as 1
can fiodt any internal evidence as to hia name or
condition^ although it is plain that he was well read
t the cUasics. Its title-pAge ia —
PThe Golden Mcane, enlnrgcd by ike first A uthor, u it
lifoi'inerlj written to the EftHe of NorthiunberUnd,
^ Discourtttig tbe XobleneBfle of perfect Vertue in extretnea.
I London : Printed by J. U., and are to be sold at hii ihop
m & DuOBtan'fl Church yard, 1638/*
The words *' Fiat 3** Editio juxta hoc Exemplar *'
occur at the l>ack of the first page, and seem to
point to an earlier edition. Algernon, tenth Earl,
I WHS Earl of Northumberland ia 1638» Was the
[buck "written to'' him or to his father? The
Lninth Earl was, aa is well known, imprisoned in
{the Tower for fifteen years ; and as itnpTisonmtni
\ fcwatted of at great length in tbe look, may it not
ftve b«en WTitteo to him during his lengthened
on&nement ? The work commences, " Men, fuj
[they are all the Sons of their Mothers, are all the
il^ectit of misery, borne to live few dayes in
dangers," &c. ; and the following passage
06 t^o bear on the question : —
** Ini|>Htonment it a cohtemplatiTe Philosophic ; it i^
mn aJTUowf of proofs aguiofit tbe battcrj of cam&ti
^.»;,. ;, ,. If it(j,(Qii to know how to bee good; and
[ilied, cannot but lend Instruction wberelty
ukjT tread tbe readie path tbat leads to
iuiHiortJiUtic."
It will he rememhered that Sir W. Raleigh was
"d in the Tower contemporaneously with
I Earl of Northumberland. Is there any
iiity that Tht Golden Meant was written
} For any information or conjecture I
Bid be obliged* F. H. Arnold, LL.B.
Fifthboume, Chichetfccr.
foo»— This Spanish writer, in one of the
r» his Thiatro Critico^ iroL vii., entitled
en lo Minimo,^* says : —
with four borsei and their driver^ which
i-int^ made of iTory, fo email that a fly covered
Jir with its wings; the ihtp of tbe iame Mynnecides,
la b«c'i wings cot ered ; the ahts of CMllicratce, the
I f>f which only the sharpeit sii^hti oould diitinguiBh :
of il oilier eneloted in a waUiutshell^ an met>
tioned bv Cicero : these were tbe wonders of antiquity.
Thoge of the last two ceniuriei [ Peijoo^a work was pub*
linbed in 17361. tbe Apostles* Creed, and the be|;i&tiin£
of St. Jobn'i Gospel, that F, Alumfo, un ftalian Monk,
wrote on tbe hiiM of a bSanca <* a rramvcdi) ; the repfe'
temation of alt tbe stages of Cbn t'^ pit^sion, on wood,
by Qeronimo Taba, a Calabrea ^ri> «t, contained in a
walnBt-sbell * bis wooden coach, with two persona in-
side, tbe drirer, and two oxen drawing it, no larger than
a grain of wheat; the beginnlhg cf Ht. John's Goopet
tbat is said at tho end of tbe Miifs, written by £1 Caballero
8panucho, a nuiive of Sena, without abbreTiatioo^ and
In a firct-rate htinJ, on parchment, no bigg^er than the
nail of tine's little finger ; and the ^o]d cbaiti of fifty
links, boldifig a flea, the whole weighing no more than
three grain«i, made by a silTersmith of Amsterdam, as-
related by P» Colmeeio.
" In this city of Uviedo there ia another wonder of
this kind, nothini: inferior to tho most remarkable of
those we have mentioned. It consists of thirtj-foor
irory cups fcalices] perFectly formed, and so small that
tbe whole are contained in a little round bos, no
largtr outside than a peppercorn, and itill leaving room
for ten or twelve more. But what ia ^ till more wonderful
IS that each of tbe cups has a little ivory ring round its
neck, but detached from it, which is very much smaller
than the foot of the cup or Its lip, so that the ring a? d
cup must be all of one piece. Looltirg at tbe cup« with-
out a microscope, they only seem like little white specks
without any special shape ; and even with tbe aid of tbe
microfcope eicli cup Ef;ema more delicate than the line st
gauze or tbe thinnest paper. D* Joseph Miguel da
Ueredia, an illustrious JcniKbt of this principality, tbe
owner of tbis treasure, obtained it from a foreigner, but
knows nothing as to who made it/'
Wluit has become of these curiosities? Feijoo
is a most judicious and trtist worthy authority.
F. N. Lett.
Laplace. — The Earl of Shaftesbury, in a speech
to the GldBgow openttives, is reported in the Time*
(Nov. 5) to have said that a learned friend of his
told him that in a conversation he had with La-
place, Laplace said, **We have had speculation
enough ; we want more facts.'' As a dim re-
miniscence, it seems to me that I have seen this
printed in a book ; and if so, it must have been a
stock phrsise with Laplace. The Marquis de la
Place died in March, 1827, forty-seven years since.
Who could this ** learned friend " be who was the»
advanced enough in knowlediie to hold discouree
with Laplace, or is he too gathered to his father* t
The expression is remarkable enough to be worth
verification, both for the wisdom of its intention
and the folly which is, at the same time, coupled
with it. C. A. Ward.
Mayfttir.
SwoRO Ai^D Eapier: SoLtKOEK.— I havc an old
sword, three feet long from point to guard, quite
straight, hilt nine inchcg, hut without furniture.
When new and furnished with metal-basket, it
must have been too he«\7 to be wielded with OM
hand. It has a rude P upon the metal of the hare
hilt Also an old rapier, two feet eight Inobea
long, almost square, with a fine taper of three-eighths
by one- fourth at the guard ^ UUi wikvA^ V>S&. N.m<\
448
NOTES AND QUERBEa
[6^S.ILl>MLe^74.
iH^ble letters stamped upon it, and inscribed,
"Fait a Solingen," or "Saiiagun,'' on the blade.
In " N. & Q." Z^ S. xii. 38, it states : " Saliagun, a
sword fiftctory in Spain"; and in 2»* S. iL 172,
" Sahagom is the ancient Saguntum/' What may
be the date of these ? The Latter looks as old as
temp, Henry YIII. or Elizabeth, and the sword
much older. When was Solingen first noted for
these artides, and when did the English fint im-
port them? The house in which they are now to
oe seen has been built 273 years, and the last four
owners and occupants all exceeded their three-
score years and ten, without being able to leave an
account of them. C. Chattock, F.B.H.S.
" The Memoirs of the Civil War in Here-
fordshire.*'— In preparing for the press this work,
left incomplete by my late father, the Rev. John
Webb, I have met with several difficulties, which
perhaps some readers of " N. & Q." will kindly
elucidate.
1. A quotation is introduced, in speaking of
Lord Falidand's death,—
" heart-sick at big ooontry's woes";
but in another copy it runs —
** heart-sick of his country's shame."
Whence does this come, and which reading is
correct ? It was evidently quoted from memory.
2. What was the name of the great master of
the science of defence at Seville a little before that
period ? The word begins with N, but the con-
tinuation is illegible. T. W. Webb.
Moon-Books. — I avail myself of the outcropping
of Bishop Godwin's Man in th^ Moone, &c., 1638,
to ask the correspondents of " N. & Q." to assist
me in making a complete bibliographical list of
"Moon-Books." I start the list with Domingo
Gonsales' voyage, for a full account of which we
are indebted to Mr. S. H. Willi a^is (5**» S. ii.
209), and with the following :— -
" Discovery of a New World ; or, a Discourse tending to
V^oje that it is probable there may be another habitable
norld in the Moon, \nth a Discourse concerning the
Possibility of a Passage thither." 1638. [By J. Wilkins]
" Voyage to the Moon." By Cyrano de Bergerac.
" Some Account of the great Astronomical Discoreries
lately made by Sir John Herschel at the Cape of Good
Hope." London. 1S35. Second Edition, London, 1836.
Third Edition, New York, 1859. The third edition is
entitled, "The Moon Hoax; or, a Discovery that the
Moon has a vast Population of Human Bcmgs." By
Richard Adams Locke.
" A Voyage from the Earth to the Moon." Translated
from the French of Jules Verne, by Louis Mercier.
(Sampson Low & Marston.)
There is also, I am told, a book of Copeland's
of the same class. Jadez.
St. Francis Xavier.— In the Roman Catholic
cemetery at Agra, amongst many tombstones of
ancient date, ia one bearing the name oi XaNvet.
The tradition at the place 10, that this penon wm
a nephew of St FranciB Xayier, and the date on it
may be lecondled with his beiiig so. CSan aojooe
furnish a copy of the inscriptiony or, at any nte,
give the exact date ? CrviLn.
The Lton Herald Officb or Scx>TLAn.—
When was this office founded 1 Oim.
The Division op Sootlakd into SHianL—
What information is to be had on tJhiambjeet!
A. B.k
John Pet Fbodart. — ^In the list of Sabp
prisoners printed by Mr. ALLNUTTy at p. 378, ocoon
this name. I am anxious to know whether Feodaij
was his surname, or whether he was called Tejt
and the Feodary is to be considered as desoiptifei
Ck)B3njBL
William de Redvebs, sixth Earl of Dstoi.
— ^Why was he sumamed "De Vernon" 1
David Botgl
"Quarter Pence.**— What axe these? H^
are entered in 1636, and subsequent yean, as
having been paid to churchwardens by the col-
lectors of " Clarke's wages and Quarter pence' lor
sudi and such wards in a town. I do not rexnember
any similar entries. R £
Antony Stewart, Miniature PAniTBK.— A
writer — Peter Gibson, then Professor of Drawing
in Dolhu: Academy — in the Edin. EncfdcpaHa
(art, " Miniature Painting "), vol. xiv., p. 675, pwb-
lished in 1820, states, referring to the execution of
miniatures : —
** Upon the wLole, we are rather inclined to gire the
preference to the light, ainr, and tasteful style, as exem-
plified in the works of Mr. Coswaj, and Mr. Antony
Stewart, of London, -which we conceive more suitable to
the gay character of miniature painting."
I am, of coui'se, familiar with the fancy sketch
of Cosway in Cunningham*s Lives (voL vL), and
with the note of a Quarterly Rtvitxoer (No. xcix.,
p. 79). But can any of the readers of " N. & Q."
give a reference to a Life or Sketch of Antony
Stewart, or to any public gallery or collection,
where any of his works may be seen ? T. S.
[A. Stewart, b. at Crieff, 1773; d. in London, 1S16.
See Redgraye'8 Did. of ArtitU of Eng. SAooL]
TowERs's "Illustrations of Prophect.*—
I shall be glad to know whether there is any good
reason for the prevalent idea respecting this work,
which appeared anonymously, and without a bo<A-
seller's name (2 vols. 8vo., London, 1796), that the
greater portion of the impression was destroyed,
and that Mr. Pitt did everything in his power to
suppress it. Abhba.
AuNA, as a Christian qame^ is found nrintad
y \x^ii tjL label in a volume of mosio whidi beraqgs to
C* 8. tT. X>tf, 6, 71 ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
449
the l>e*Tmnmg of the present centuiy. Has tho
imnic lien noticed before 1 J* E. B,
TiLUAit Steveks. — Trhere can I beat find
licnlars and incidenU of thb great ship-bniJder
' tn tlie reigns of Elizabeth and Ja^nies 1. 1 He wi\»
i a celebmted m&n, and built gome o( the liirgeat
I sbip t\t tbfil tune. H. Brjdqb.
iH Gowcr Street
**Bjixon." — Jamieson domes Bigmarit^ **a
i.U.. r ..;n/^ from the words Reg, Maria on one of
/ coins of Queen Mary of Scot^. Whence
TV. T, M.
bhinHeld GroTe.
MoLifeRK, — It is a curious circumetxiDce that
' Holiere haa written two B<5enes in different pbiys
I in 'H'hich he repeats himself almost word for word
^ through timny lines. One scene is in the Fourberus
"k^^ipin, Act i. sc, 6, where Ar^nte threatens to
herit his son, and Scapin tells him he will not
the heart to do ao. The other is in tlie
^aioiU Ijtmginairr, Act i. ac. 5, where Argan
threatens to send his daughter into a convent if
idle refuftcs to marry young Diaforits, the saubretU,
Toinette remonstrating with him on the subject.
I These two scenes, changing the dramatis persofUKf
jnje ahnost interchangeable. Can any one point
lout a ainiikr instiince of repetition in any other
[great dmmatJst I Jonatuan BoucHiJtR,
** Sir APE."— Two pbces in England hear this
fttne : the? onc» Snnjie Castle, in the North Riding,
'kitiga Btronghold of the Nevilles and Cecils ; the
LOt})er. n vITlr/e near Aldborough, in Suffolk. What
\U '' i;^ and derivation of the word ? In
Ithi istance its origin has been derived
A.-S. niapi a knob, although the castle
j)d^ upon a flat. H. A. L.
Mr^lirir.
UZmJRVAL AXI) MODERN LATIN AND
GREEK VERSE.
(5«» 8. ij. 24h, 2m, 337, 369, 389.)
I had oocjwinn to ^%'^ther a number of vohmics of
f L^ttn prtctn* when engaged Ln the compilation of
T. Ai tiw? subject geems to interest
r^.tder^, I t^nfuff to S4»nd you the
1 Ijle books which
iJjjTJcu^, » 't;m I'utin'iitLf Baail, 15/i6.
r aU the pr>enis in this curious volume art
AntiAhUiriHi Animf, Paris, 1552 ; contains
isml hymDs, aoac pnntcd tike |rr<Me, teverul in
Humni if Cvll
Precalionum, A*
. 1 r».<v; ; containj a
complete series of prayers, readings^ and hyinui*,
many of them in rhyme, for the whole year, il1ti»-
trated with cuta in the style of the Lyons books of
that period. A charming little volume, but np-
pfirently '— -
Ca r I corn m , B nins w ick, 1 577.
AleXiiivv. i.v .i'/;/ F^'infjidUantii ChrU-
tiados, London, !y on the iEneid|
beginning with —
" llle ego qai quondam graclli modulatui avenaj"
The fifth line being this :—
" Acta, Deaxoqoe cano, coeH qui primuB ab orit."
Noinim Tatatnenhan in Htxamctros Vcrtui^
per Johannem (Brydges) Episcopum Oxonienaein.
Londan, Sims, 1604. The whole Testament in
Latin verse, chapter by chapter, for the most part
very litendly. The Sermon on the Mount begins
thus :—
** Ore et iporto docebat eoi> hieo vtrba looattu :
Ftelicei qui eplritu ydem paupere cmiataut ;
Quandoquideni regiimo cwlonun eitistit corum,"'
My copy was given by Tliomns Hay I or, Bishop of
Norwich, to Thomas Seeker^ Bishop of OxlV>rd, in
1757* In 1758 Seeker became Anbbiehop of Can-
terbury, and he died in 1708 ; bnl he seems to
have left the volume behind him at Oxfortl, as in
1777 it was in the possession of John Hume,
Bishop of Sali8bun% who had previously been
Bishop of Oxford, He died in 1782. Sir William
Tite bought it from Lilly in 1854. On a fly-leaf in
written '* Jo: Ireland donat ab E. K. Apr. 20. 84.*'
Office of B. r. Mxnj, London, 1687 ; oouUlna
good versions of seveml hymns, including IHf$
Irtr in Lritin and English.
Jo. Bupliata' Masculi Lyricontm H^^i Odarum^
lib. xv., Buaci, 1634, A note to the table nays,
" Numeri sunt omnes Honitiani, itemqne stylus/'
Peter Baatidtcus Tnusianu"?, tranJ<hition of
Atiiald d'Andilly'a Carrncn de Vita (liriHi^ into
French, with the original on the oppoeitc page.
2nd fditinn, Paris, 1074.
Emanuel is Thesanri Palriareiim tivt CfirUH
grrvatori< CurnJoyia^ Ijondon, 1657, With C»-
sarttm / the saute author, added.
I hrn 1 versions of tho Paalmji which
are very numerous.
The modem book?! on medieval Latin ftfO
iH may }>e found in Bale,
iiow or old dntf * Imt T i^ub-
r a* I knov
1 the Btad'
Adam de hu
numerous.
Pits, and I
join a list ^'t
books of mti
Mohnike, and tlifj
(tantier,
Joh/r; V ' *:-• v^-^., m ^.^^ vr..,^
Bnjiah li*
in»Crir*h..Mi, X.r,...,^ .-.;> s^K mm ^^.r.v.,i.j»:, , 4.UC»lUm
ic 0**, Jan W, 1508." It aftenrardfl belonged to
\Vo!fii Ltdumun ifemiwifevlvvuws %
450
NOTES AND QUERIES.
lfSI^B.lLDEO.5,'74.
PitMeos De lUustribus Anglias ScriptorihuSy
Paris, 1619.
Polycarpi Lerseri Htstoria Poetarum Medii jEvi,
Holse," 1721. Includes all that is valuable of Bale
and Pits. A curious misprint, or series of mis-
prints, occur at p. 1100, which is numbered 2000,
the miitake continuing to the end of the book, the
last pa^ before the index being 2132. '
Darnel, Thetaurus HymnologiciLi, 5 vols., dated
the first four 1855, and the fifth 1856. Far the
best book on Latin hymnology, though carelessly
printed. The fifth volume, for some reason, is
exceedingly scarce. There is, or was lately, no
copy in the British Museum. It is indispensable,
however, to the student, as it has, in addition to
a very complete index of its own, an index of
hymns in Mone and other collectors' books.
Mone, Hymni Latini Medii Aevif 3 vols., 1853.
A careful, well-printed book, in which the author
has gone to MSS. for all the hymns he prints.
Eehrein, Lateinische Sequenzen, 1873. The
latest German publication on this subject, and not
of any special value, except as giving a list of
hymn-writers and writers on h^mnology, which
may be found useful. It mentions the death of
Daniel on the 13th September, 1871.
Seqt^ntuB ex MissalibuSy J. M. Neale, D.D.,
1852.
Hymni EcclesicBy J. M. Neale, 1851.
All Br. Neale's books, and there are several
others which need not be separately enumerated,
are valuable, as he went to original sources for
what he edited. His little Rythm of Bernard^
from vrhich " Jerusalem the Golden " is taken, and
his StaJbat Mater Speciosa, are good examples of
his minor publications.
Trench, Sacred Latin Poetry, Ist edition, 1849 ;
2nd edition, 1864 ; 3rd edition, 1874. A book
which needs no recommendation.
Newman, Hymni Ecclesias, 1865.
Laiin Translations of English Hymns, by C. B.
Pearson, Rector of Knebworth, 1862. Many of
these are in rhyme, and all are scholarly and
elegant.
Herbert Kynaston, D.D., Cantica CoUtina, two
Kirts, 1866, 1867 ; and Missiones Coletina, 1873.
This learned poet's translation of Bamian's hymn
on the Glories of Paradise, with a Latin text,
1857, should also be mentioned.
Louis Coutier Biggs, Hymns Ancient and
Modem, Annotated; contains several hymns in
Latin rhyme.
Arundines Cami, and Translaiions by Lord
Lyttelton and Mr. Gladstone, should also be
named here.
For books of Latin poetry not sacred, I may
refer to the following amonff others : —
Reliquia Antiqu<e, by T. Wright and J. O.
HaUiwdl, 1841-43, 2 vols. ; the first voL seems to
beeauve.
Laieinisehe Oediehte d€$ x und xj JK Yod
Grimm und Schmeller, 1838.
Wright's Poems attributed to Waller 3fapa,aiid
PolitiSd Songs, both edited for the Camden
Society ; and his Anglo-Latin Satirical Posts,
edited for the Rolls Series. Mr. Wrist's con-
clusions as to the age of several of the poans he
? notes from MSS. must be received with oaatki.
n the Rolls volumes he prints in full the gmt
poem De Contemptu Mundi, by Bernard de
Morlaix, but does not give any authorities for bii
text. It is much to be desired that he should state
the place and name of the manuscripts be htt
consulted. Perhi^ he may be willing to dirolp
his secret to the raiders of ** N. & Q.*'
W. J. LOFTIS.
John Littleton (5*** S. iL 408.) — Being absent
from home, I cannot answer H. M. T. with
certainty ; but if he can refer to Nash's Worcester-
shire, tit. " Hagley," and Shaw's Staffordshire, tit
" Kingswinford," I believe he will find all that ii
known.
Not John^ut Humphrey and Stephen Lyttelton
escaped to Holbeach after the Plot ; but, never-
theless, I have little doubt that John lAtikton
was of the same family.
Nash says, very carelessly, that the Lytteltont of
Hagley and of Holbeach were " two branches.'
The fact is that Sir John Littleton, of the elder or
Hagley branch, who died 1591, had a son Jdin ;
and next above this son was another caUed Geoi;^
This George was father to Stephen, who was in
the Plot, and, both of these dying without further
male issue, and George having " settled at Hol-
beach," and no doubt being owner of it, it may
well have passed to John, whose death in 1617 is
quite probable.
According to Shaw, whose book was publisher)
in 1801, the owners of Holbeach from the date of
the Plot down to that year 'were the families ol*
Bendy, of Hirst End ; Hodeetts, of Prestwood ;
Foley, of Prestwood ; and Peshall. Not long ago,
it belonged, I think, to a family named Cope ; bat,
if H. M. T. is a Kingswinfordian, he can probably
trace the more recent owners. Lyttelton.
George Lyttelton, a younger son of Sir John
Lyttelton, of Frankley, had issue— (1) Stephen
Lyttelton, of Holbeach House, who was executed
Sampson ; (4) Walter, who had two daughters,
Mary and Ursula ; (5) Francis, who had a ion
George ;♦ and (1) Bridgett, married to John Hood,t
younger son of Thomas Hood, of Bardon Park, by
whom she had a daughter, Margaret.
\
* Long's Bcual DiidfUs,
Ucho
•^ Nicbolt'i Lticestsrskire, Iv. 806.
6« 8. ILDiO.fi, 741
NOTES AND QUERIES.
4dl
John, tlu» second son, in evidently the gentle man
who was bnned ut Kingswinford in ItJlV. He
I Jwd two daughters, Frances and Eli/,iibeth, the
hUi^r of whom waa married to — — Fowkc,*
whove great gnindaon, Robert Fowke^ left an onljr
daughter and heiress, married to John Conroy,
ancestor of Conroy, Bart,
Dagdnle {Wancirkihire) says that Stephen
Lyltelton, " being one of the Gunpowder con-
i|>irfttors, lost bis life and atale"; but Holbeach
i «enis to have been restored to his brother John,
It afterwards belonged to the Bendy family ,
from whom it paaaed to John Hodgeits, Esq. (in
mmrriage with Mary, daughter and co- heiress of
[ "Wllliftra Bendy, Esq,), and from him to the Foley s
of Prestwood, who sold it about 17J>0, to Sparry
Peshalyt or Pearsall, son of Sir John Peshall^
Bart (ioi-disani), of Hawne, in Halesowen. Its
next owner^ or occupier, was, I believe, a Mr Cope ;
b«t to whom it now belonga, I do not know — pro-
bably to the Earl of Dudley. H. S. G.
Clachxacuddkn (6"* S. ii. 149, 214.)— I would
suggest that the true^ or, it should perhaps rather
be said, the l>etrer way of spelling and pronouncing
the name of Cbichnacudden would be Clachna-
chattan (the Ck being pronounced hard), and that
the true meaning of the name is the Stone of the
It-an. It is known beyond all dispute that the
i Cliattan (the Ch hard) inhabited the north of
Mnndf or a grtat part of it (their descendants,
Tno doubt, doing so stiU), and, more particnkrly,
thai they dwelt in and around the locality now
known as Inverness. The Mackintosh who claims
»io be the Chief of the Clan Chattan has his resi-
dence a very short distance from that town. The
stone referred to would be one of the standing
stones, *^f»tamiin' staneSi'^ as they are termed in
Scotland, where, in ancient times, they must have
existed in great numbers, as shown by the number
that still exist ; and I would suhmit, on that
ground, and from what is known of them other-
viae» that these stones had denoted the places
where each of the tribes of Scotland as a whole,
or where the sections of these tribes, had respectively
^^^tt| to perform divine worship^ to do justicei and to
^^^B councils regarding matters within the jum-
BVMnon of the whole tribes, or their sections re-
fpectively. The modem county, with its parishes,
^ t« simply a modijUd continuation of these divisions ;
90 also are parish churches and cathedrals m
' relation to each other. The Cinch na Chattan
\yrQSk the pla<^e where the tribe or clan Chattan had
aerly met for the purposes above mentioned, as,
their descendants maj be said, under
modifications, to do so stiU. At these
\ villages would naturally exist, and henc^,
i Gaelic language, the application of the word
* Burke'ft Comtiumvnt u 491,
f Harwood's JSrtfctirwir.
" Olachan " — Anglicf^ the stones — to denote &
village, Clachan being thus anaJogons to Kirk ton,
to be found in Scotland as the name of villages, or
of what were once villages, in the immediate
vicinity of certain former or stiU existing parish
kirks ; and Clach or Clachan, Kirk (or Caer ?) ; and
Kil, Kel, or Cul, all seem to have been terms by
which, in Scotland, either over all its extent, or
within certain limits, were denoted the Standing
Stones. It would rather seem that one priesthood,
known m the Bruidical, though, perhaps, it has
other names, had prevailed over all Britain in the
time of Ciesar, and no doubt long prior, and for
some time after. It is well known that the stand*
ing stones were not confined to Scotland, but are
to be found in England, Ireknd, Gennany, France,
and other countries. I may allude, in passing, to
the historkid London Stone, and to the vast struc-
ture of standing stctnes known as Stonehengc.
Stonehenge had beyond all doubt been, at one and
the same time, what may be termed the Metro-
politan Cathedral and the Palace of Ptirliiiment of
a great number, perhaps the whole, of the tribes
of Britain, in the same way as, Caesar tells us, all
the tribes of Gaul met anmiolly in the territory of
the Carnutes, in which territory a vast collection
of standing stones is still to be seen. Many of the
Clachans or villages at these stones or ktrks have,
in Britain and elsewhere, now developed into great
cities ; for we may rest assured that, in all pro-
bability, London, Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin, Vienna,
and allj or almost all^ other ancient cities, had
their origin in the way now mentioned.
Hknry Kilgour.
P.S.— I may annex one of the meanings of the
word Clachan as given in Mr. M*A1 pine's Gaelic
DidioTiaryf obsen^ed after the preceding remarks
were penned, and of which remarks it is entirely
confimiatoiy, so far as it extends : — ** Clachan^ a
Fillage, a hamlet where a church is ; said to have
been Bruidical places of worship.'' I may add
that the name of the town of Clackmannan kad,
self evidently, originated in the way now referred
to, the Stone of the Mannau having anciently
existed where Clackmannan now i&
"PttOVlDEKCE ON THE SIDE OF TSfE ORKAT
BATTALIONS " : ** CONTES ET EpIQRAMMBS, PAR
leCit.*****" (5^S. ii. 307.)— For this aphorism
Citizen Gobet is indebted to Voltaire— viz., ** Un
prince veut faire la guerre, et croyant que Dieu est
toujours pour les gros bataillons '*^a maxim the
wisdom of which Voltaire^s friend, Frederick the
Great of Prussia, approved, and, by his well-known
powerful military organization, put into practice.
In Schiller's Tragedy o/ IFallmttiin I can find no
allusion to the saying. Bom in or about the year
1760, Pierre-Cesaire* Joseph Gobet commenced his
career in life as a dealer m iron, but, conscious of
a capacity foe bif^i Mid. Toioxfe Sss^^^'^'^^tj^- 5i.x5&I^sfc^
ii^^i^
452
NOTES AND QUERIES.
L0*8.n.DBO.<S,7i.
he devoted himself to the pursuits of literature,
and with such success that he became a barrister,
and eventually was raised to the Judicial bench at
Paris as " Juge df nstraction."
He fell a victim to the cholera on the 16th July,,
1832.
Between the years 1786 and 1814 he published :
1. Fablea Nouyelles.
2. The voliAne cited by your correspondent H. A. B.
8. ConteB, Fables et Epigrammee.
4 La tjlageure, ou Lettre du R^dactenr de TAriicle
"Speotaclee " dans le famenx feuilleton & M. * * ^
o. A work entitled— M. Feuilleton, ou Scene addition-
nelle (en vers libres) & la Com6dio du ** Mercier galant*'
de Boursault.
The " pieux nouvelliste " is probably Marmontel,
the celebrated author of the Contes Moratix, and
other literary productions, a greater portion of
which constituted at different periods "le feuil-
leton" of Le Mercure de France, a publication
issued (monthly, I believe) by the special permis-
sion {brevei\ and under the sanction of the
Government. William Platt.
Piccadilly.
In Bartlett's QuotaXions, p. 335, there are the
following: "Deos fortioribus adesse" (Tacitus,
Hist, Bk. iv.-xvii.). " Dieu est d'ordinaire pour
les gros escadrons contre les petits " (Bussy Babu-
tin, LtUrts, iv. 91, Oct. 18, 1677). "On dit que
Dieu est toujours pour les gros bataiUons " (Vol-
taire to jVL le Riche, Feb. 6, 1770). Alison, Big-
tory of Europe^ somewhere states that some one, in
presence of Napoleon, asserted that Providence
was always on the side of the biggest battalions.
The Eiuperor remarked, " Nothing of the kind.
Providence is always on the side of the last reserve."
Query, Can any one give me a reference to the
chapter in Alison ? W. S. S.
Qu^rard, in his Super cherie^ LitUraires (Paris,
1870), gives the following information as to
" Citizen Gobet*s " works :—
"•♦♦•♦ (M.) [Louis- Antoine Gobet].
" Contes, Fables et Epigmmmed. Paris, an ix (1801),
in-18, 30 p.— Contes, Fables et Epigrammes, suivis de
M. Feuil'^ton, 8C'>nc episodique, par . Parit, niyOse
an xiii {\b)5), in-18, 60 p.
" Ces de^x ouyragcs, rounis aux ' Contes et Epi-
grammes ' dt meme auteur, Part's, vend^miaire, an viii
(1800), in-18 d% 26 pages (signes ♦ ♦ ♦), forment la col-
lection des ' Contes '^ de M. Gobet"— Tome iii. p. 1125.
Barbier, in his Didionnaire des Ouvrages
Anonymcs rParis, 1872), also ascribes the Contes
et Epigrammes to Louis- Antoine Gobet.
But if you turn to the account, given in Didot's
Nourelk Biographie GMrale (edited by Dr.
Hoefer, 1857), of Louis- Antoine €robet, you find
the above-mentioned works attributed, not to him,
but to Pierre-Cdsaire-Joseph Gobet, a litUrateur
and magistrate, bom about 1765. The Biographie
Uhivmelk (Michaud) does the wime.
li is unfortunate that the MS. note m -yowi
correspondent's COTy of the book does not help us
where authorities disagree.
Spares Henderson Williaks.
Post-Office Money Orders (&^ S. iL 26a.)—
Mr. William Lewins, in his history of Htr Ma-
jesty's Mails, states : —
*'In that year (1702) an entirely new branch of b«i-
ne« wee commenced at the General Pest Oi&ee. We
refer to the origin of the money order establiihmeat.
The beginnings of this tystem. wbich^ as the reedv
must be aware, has of late years asBumed gigantie pie-
portiont, were simple and nnaesnmlng in the extrme.
The Qoremment ot the day had expressed a defira fer
the establiahment of a mediom, by which loldierrad
Hulon might transmit to their homes each small ions as
they could manage to eave for that purpose. Three
officers of the Poat Office jointly submittea a seheme to
make a part of the Post-Office machineiy aTaUable ia
this direction, and a monopoly was readily conceded to
theuL The undertaking was further faToored with the
sanction of the Postmaster General The designation
of the firm was to be ' Stow & Co./ each of the three
partners agreeing to find a thousand poands canitaL
The stipulations made were, that the business should be
carried on at the cost and at the risk of the oiiginaton ;
and that they, in return, should receire the profits. It
was agreed, also, that they should enjoy the priTilege of
sending all their correspondence free of poetage— no in-
considerable item saved to them. Contrary to antici-
pation, the proceeds were considerable— not so mnchon
account of the number of the transactions, ae on tin
high commission that was charged for the money ddsn.
Their terms were eightpence for eyery ponnd ; but if
the same exceeded two pounds, a stamp du^ of one
shilling was levied by Goyemment in addition. So order
could be issued for more than five guineas ; and the
charge for that sum amounted to four shillings and ax-
pence, or nearly five per cent"
£. H. Coleman.
During the reign of William IV., I used to pay
to the local postmaster my quarterly subscription
for a London newspaper, together with the cost of
a post letter (lid.), and the postmaster transmitted
the order, and settled for the paper, I understood,
in his post-office accounts. I assume that he took
commission from the publisher, for I paid none.
Lackington built a Methodist chapel about eighteen
miles beyond the Post Office with which I trans-
acted my business, so he would probablyacouire
his knowledge in that district. C. W. E.
Newcastle -on-Tyne.
** Anecdote Lives" (5"» S. iL 365.)— I am
enabled, and on the authority of Earl Bussell
himself, to say that his Lordship was the origmator
of the witty definition of a proverb. It was told
by him one day at breakfiist to Sir James Mad^-
intosh, who repeated it at Holland House, and in
that way it became rapidly known. Surely after
this ex cathedrd confirmation, this one wittidsm
will not henceforth be assigned to any other than
the originator. Now vmroru. Fbxdk. Suul
" Ultima " as a Chribtiak Name (5"» S. il
\ %^ »'^— "Vl \ voi Ti^^'t TmsUken, the irell-lcnown author
ff» 8. IL Dio. 5. 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
453
fatlmniel Hawthorne 1ms a drttighter bearing ihm
rery nunie. I know a family in Stockholm^ Sweden,
I'vlio nnmed one of their daughters Ultimo, because
|lbere was bat little hope of their hj^vinir niore
children. But here it happened as with '* nichard
Baxter's Ust worda/*^ — Ultima really became Pen-
uUima, Upon consulting a friend of his, the
_ nxzled paierfajuilias got out of the dilemma in
lihia manner : as an ultimatum, he christened his
ni ** bliB« *' Vera Ultivta (the vcnj last one).
lAnd 80 she stdl is. But these are not the only
[cxamplea. I know where the above-ujentioned
[word has been used as a name. I also had a
*chum.*' at the University of Upsalti, Sweden,
amed UUirnui, A propos of Christian names aug-
thnt the beiucr ia the last born of his
ijere is another one very frequently used
" 'if that purpose, viji., ** Knut." This
[ is t li word for knotf and its use a« a
youngest mn originates probably
» bat a tailor makes a knot at the end
as if to say " here it stops " !
F. Mabtik*
Ekvuesal of Diphthokgs (5»^ S, ii. 231.) —
f Mil, MoRTiMEK CoLLiNs'fl deliverauccs are always
h entitled to respect, and his remarks on " SpeUing
Heforma •' at thb reference fire at least very sug-
' geSitivc. But, speaking of Prof, Sylvester's Laivs
of V- r<r_ li,. ^uys : " A mathematician could never
bu \ ha muddle if he had only been taught
hh ^ Such anparliamentiirj^ language
must not be allowed to pass without a caQ to
^ordcr ; especially in tliia case, where Ma. Collins
p tnbre presented the great mathematician's doc-
tte^ and therefore shown he htts not understood
it. If a diphthong were a collocation of two
vowel K»unds, Mr Colli xa's crifiquc w*ould be
liirl ' !i a diphthong would be analogous to
AD 1 1 sum. But it is just because, c g.^
the ^oiinii I ijis in glidi) is a dipbtbcng thiit its re-
is a double vowel sound, and not a diph-
thong, aa in yEliaiK It cannot be septtrat^ into
4 and a, as Miu Collins seemB to assunoe ; for,
\ P" ^' I— 4ter most accurately sayB, —
arka of aound which connoto a diphtliong:
f htm tQundtd : they do but indicate the two
timiU frwm oue of which to the other the voice pAsses
eontinuoatly ia uttering thediphthong."— Law* o/ VcrUt
|i{k>. 50*51*
All Mr* CoLLiys does is to reveree these limits^
and 90 evolve, not a diphthong, but a double
vowel sound, which is a very different thing. For
ixjy ii'^H T ilo not think that any true diphthong
is 1 ; but if there be euch a thing as a
TOT-. "'litliong, let it be produced. But
Dr. byii ^-A^ his assertion by the <|nalifica-
lion ** f J (I do not say always),** &a,
w!i ' ijllins does not quote entire ; and
I 1 1 very modesty of this statement should
hare prevented him from applj^ng to the great
scient the language of which I complain.
Jabkz.
AthcTijieam Club.
Aristo (5"» S. ii, 308.)—** Aristo ''' is the Persian
fonn of *' Aristotle," and so, perhaps, the name or
title of an *^ Hakim, or physician.'' *' Aristo" ia
sS^conimonly known bv tradition in those Ea«t©rn
parts that Prof. Eastwick (in some book of travel,
1 forget which), asking some Oriental if he knew
what an Jrish steiv whjs, is answered that he i^ not
80 ignorant as not to know that great philosopher.
If Eastwick hiul asked about a Vol-au-ventj the
man might have taken it for Arifto'a master,
Plato, equally celebrated in the East as "Iflatua."
Qtnvis.
OuRTocs llrsToRtcAL Eblations (S^ S. iL
286.)— The learned Otma of " N. & Q.," who is
well versed in Swiss archaeology, infbrma me that
the cwrioH* relaiiom extracted from De R^chat
are historical facU, I therefore withdraw the
comparative allusions to the German baron and
the American major ! In the second quotation
(ut ^upra) is an erratum ; *S'ora* h?\h should be
Jorat HiUs, the range of which Lau?anne is the
capital. N.
Cameo (5*»» S. il 268.)— My first im^r^gioa
was that this word was derived from va/A«i (»it
cause da creux oil cea pierres sont taifiies," vm
Manage). In his 2^ Origint della lAng, It&^
Genev., 1685, Manage says, "Cameo du x^f^h
camw!U3, cameo. Item, dall' isteaso )^a/Aat, camaius,
camaiolus, onde il Franoeae eamaietix* It*m, dm
va/iat, camius, camio, camiouis, camione ; onde il
Franceae camion, cio^ spilletto." Koquefort gives
** Cami^eu, mmaher : Camaieu, en has Lat. eomo*
hotusJ* Dufresne renders c<ima^us and camah^tuSf
"sardonyx"; and gives also a cainahutus, ap-
parently' of the same meaning. Gaffard (Cwri-
0***/^^ Inomes, chap. t. p. 74), aft^r stating that he
thinks ganidhe from eainai^if &c., says : —
**0r le mot chamajcu pourroit estre abastardl ds
€kiimaia, qui signifie comme 'd'cau de Diea,* i caaae
3ii*on voit des acbatea ond6e> repr6«ent«nt puifaitement
e Teau ; et le mot de Dieu y eat adjouBt^, L cause quo
]a tangue Hcbraique a cela dc propre, aue Ion qu «Us
Teut nonimer qudqae chose par excellence, elle ad-
jouste apm, ce eaiat nom. Ainei pour dire un beaa
jdrdin, elle dit paraditm Doviim ; doi grands cMres,
cidri Dti; dca hautes montsgnes, monUi Dei: amii OM
autres.'*
Bescherelle says, " Camaieu, par corruption de
camehouia^ nom oriental de Tonyx, qui est formi
par des couches de diveraea ooakurs''; but he
derives camie —
"Pe rital. camoo, qui lui-memc vlent 3e rfl£br.
kamaa, relief j oo, Buivant d'&utrca, dee deux moisfftintM
OHVchm, dont oa a fnit tjtmma hnya, puit Ciittu hma^ ti
eufin camaTcUt nom bous leqiiel oa dcfignait ee qjia n««i*
appelons anjoutd'Wv caiaier
m
mM
454
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[fl*S.ILD£a6,7l.
Conf. also om:*. by some rendered sardonyx, or
onyx, wMch Micnaclis compares with the Arabic
muBohhamy a striped garment.
R. S. Charnock.
Gray's Inn.
This word comes from Greek through Low
Greek and Low Latin. Greek, Ka/ivciv, to labour,
to take any trouble ; Low Greek, ica/Aciov, iron-
works ; X,&OKafio)fJL€vos, ornamented with gems ;
KajMOTucov, a work done by hand ; Kafuuvvctv, to
work ; Ka/iarov, a work. Low Latin, canuEiu,
See Littr^. v, " Camde." Henri Gausskron.
Ayr Academy.
Asses' Bbaying (6"» S. ii. 287.)— I have found
the receipt referred to by H. K. in a small folio
volume, new in the .Dublin Library, B'Olier Street.
I never heard of another copy. The book is called
The Secrets of Devils, of AngtU, and of Men, I
quote fome of the secrets from memoiy : —
1, How to weigh any number of pounds Tor
ounces) with four weights. This might be useful
for machines for weighing letters.
2, How to fnd out a number thought of by
another, by joking a few questions. Think of a
number ; is it even or odd, &c. ?
3, How to roast a goose alive. I believe, from
the mufcular movements of the ass, the stone
will be efifectuaL I have tested the first and second,
and *An answer for their correctness. I have
ne^f tried the third, and do not so intend.
H.
Butler's "Hudibras" (6*>» S. ii. 326.)— Dr.
Johnson says more : he says, " Hudibras is one of
those compositions of which any nation may justly
boost " ; and " the name of Butler can only perish
irith the language." W. A. 0.
Glasgow.
Effect of Stars (5*^ S. ii. 309.)— Let me refer
Asa Reeth to a tale in the Belgravia Annual for
1868 ; it is entitled " King Aser's Slave."
Boston.
"The Slave" (5** S. ii. 309.)-To the question
of your correspondent Vera, no better answer can
be given than by a few extracts from Moore's
Diary, edited by Lord John Russell in 1853 (vol. v.
pp. 142, 144) :—
tm}^^' '^f""*n^^- Began some rersei for the Timet,
xne Butye.
aJ' J»»"»>7 19 20. Sent some d»y this week a poem on
the Duke of York's death to the TifMs, called 'The
Slave, and a letter from Luttrell about it. I mutt
thank you for * The Slare.'
* January 21-22^ Had a letter from Barnes, nying the
yenes on the Duke of York were excellent, and came
aprojHU,*'
7»ir ». .«. William Platt.
ii^ PiecMdiUy.
Suffolk Words (5«» S. il 32a)— Ptidbrf is,
probably, nothing more than the Suffolk pronon-
ciation of the English word peaeeod.
Wm. Pbnokllt.
Torquay.
The Marriage of the Adriatic avd the
DooE OF Venice (6^ S. iL 287.)—Under " Pecu-
liar Customs, &a,'' Morell says, in hia Can^^
Oeography (voL il p. 836, foL) : —
" One of the grandest and most solemn ones thii
Venice hath is, thiat called the Attenta, or Holy TImn-
day, when the Doge goes with the utmost pomp to marry
the sea."
After describing the ceremony, which is too long
for quotation, he continues : —
'* At the place the Doge takes a ring, and drops it iaCo
the sea, without anv other formality than by sayiitf,
' Detnontamut le, Mare, in tionum perpetui bvmimh;
which may be thus Englished, With tkis rimff wt mi
thee, 0 tea, in token qf our perpetwU Dominion omtr tkm,*'*
Nothing is said of the recovery of the ring.
** This power," he tells us, of marrying the sea in
that odd manner —
'* was granted to this Republic by Pope Alexander IIL
for its havinff given him a lift into his Fontiileal Digidiy,
of which he had been deprited."
I find no mention of the custom in Oaidinal
Contarini's De Veneiorum Bepublied.
Edmund Tew, MJL
It is quite true that the rin^ was recovered after
the wedding, and, therefore, that a string was tied
to it. The orinn of this ceremony shows it plainly.
In the twelfth century, Venice supported Pope
Alexander III. against the Emperor Frederick L,
Barbarossa. In recompense of this, the Pope gave
the Doge a ring, which he ought to throw into the
sea every year ; and to the present the Pope added
these words: —
" Espouse the sea, that posterity may know it beknigs
to you by right of conouest, and it must be submitted to
your Republic, as a wire is to her husband.*'
Henri Gausserov.
Ayr Academy.
The form of the ceremony was as follows.
Yearly, on Ascension Day, the Doge, accompanied
by the officers of state, the Papsd nuncio, the
ambassadors, &c., entered the " Bucentaur," a pi-
ley one hundred feet in length, manned by 160
picked rowers, and advanced slowly to the island
of Santa Elmo, at which place the patriarch of
Venice came on board, who, after blessing a vase
of water, threw it into the sea as a preventative of
storms. The ducal vessel proceedea to the port of
San Nicolas, and then crossed the strait, and ato
going a little way out to sea, put about ; at which
moment the Doge suddenly stepped into a small
gallery, and threw a gold ring into the waves,
saying at the same time, " Desponsamiu te, Man^
in signum veri perpetuique dominn » (tee TKt
Queen, of the Adriatic; or, Venice Fati emd
Preeenty &c). Ntomaoue.
6'»8.ILl>»:.6,74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
455
I
Tmt Tebmixation "t'* in the Kamks of
, Placks (rj*"* S. ii» 320.) — If the correspondent of
tlie Intcrmidimre is right in asserting that acuvi,
in the termination of the Latin fonna for Tournay,
Cambray, Courtray, &c,, h from Sanscrit aca,
Latin aqita, then, seeing that the orimnd Flemisli
namee of tbe.se towns ended in -yrk (Doornyck,
^CHineryck, whence our cambric^ Cortryck, &c.),
> there seems rcAlly some analogy for the suggestion
^ of W. B., that 'iriV^r- water. But query the
I grounds of this assertion in the Inttrm^'diaire ?
V.H.LLJ.aLV.
" WiKK " (5^^ S. iL 408). which forms part of
! eevcrdi place-nameii in our country, is Scandinaviaa
Witik or mnch lueiais a comer. The word of the
I futme meaning in the Anglo-Saxon tongue hitdnreL
Vide Morris's Eiymolotjy of Ttidonk Local Names
fi&t the former, and Boswortb's Atigto-Sajon LHe-
1 tionary for the latter^ authority.
Henry C. Lofts.
Thk Yew-Trees at Paisswick {^^ S. ii. 3fJ5.)
— The spell hiis been broken for many years. The
ninety-nine oM yew-trees still flourishjand between
thirty and forty younger trees were planted some
years ago, which promise in time to make the
church vard m much uglier than before as 140
exc«!ed^ IfKK C, S.
, I know these yew-trees weU, and can assure
K T. G. U., and the elderly kdy his infonimnt, that
^B there ia nothing ominous respect ins one of them
^■•dying occaiiionally when another is planted, so
H.lhai one hundred cannot be kept growmg together.
^ It would be just half as difficult to keep fifty, and
:as diflicult agjiin to keep two hundred growing at
I the Bonje time. The result would be the pame
with Wellingtoaias, or in C4ise a farmer tried to
Iccep tjractbj one hundred sheep throughout the
^ean The frequent deaths amongst the Pains-
^\ck yewsy however^ arose principally from the
injury to their root^ by the frequent interments
ju»t before the new cemetery was built, and the
jibAurd practice of cropping them so closely every
^ear, ao tliat the dead leiives of the inner boughs
do not fall to the ground, but upon the crown and
trunks of the trees, which is y^j injurious.
a Ghattock, F.E.H.S.
QMtle Btomwicb.
Tuojf AS Sutton (5»*^ S. ii, 4O90— It 15 a fiict
ell known to Carthusians, that the body of
bouiiu Sutton was buried in the chapel^ and is
here to this day. The tomb has, I believe, been
lwic« opened within the last hundred years, the
Hitter occasion being in J 84 2, The body was
bund wrapped in lead, according to the f;u^hion
bf the duv, and wa» in excellent preservation,
F. F, D.
CliArt«rhou«e.
Thomas Suttoo, the founder of the Charterhouse,
wa.^ buried in the chapel attached to his magni-
ficent foundation. An engraving of the curious
lead coffin which contains his body may be seen in
Th€ Gtntkvian-s Magminey January, 1843, p. 43,
His bowels were buried in the Parish Church of
Hackney, Edward Peacock.
Bottegford Manor^ Brigg.
I have consulted three biographical dictionaries,
and unless they are all wrong, and they bare
copied erroneously from each other, Thomas Sutton
died December 12, 1611. As to his place of
burial, they are all silent, though one account
states that he died in London. Fredk. Kclk.
Ak Old Bookbbllek (5*^ S. iL 288.)— I have
the book inquired for by Olphak Hamst. It
bears the following title : —
*' Fifty Ye&rs Recollectioni of an Old Bookseller, con-
PSfiting of Anecdotci, Cliaracteiistic Sketches, and Origi-
nal Traits and Flcceatricitici of Atithors, Ar lists, Actors,
fiooki. Booksellers, and of the Pcriodicul Presi for the
h\^t Half Ccntary, with appropriate Selection*, ami an
unUoiited Hetrospcct, includini; i^omo Extraoi'dlnary
Circumitancei relative to the Letteri of Judius, and
a Claim of Corroboratira Eridence respectlnit their
Author/'
** He has been at a feast of anecdot^s^ and stolen all
the acrapa.'*
8ro. pp. 200, Cork. Printed for the Author, 1335.
It contains a portrait of the author, those of
Wilkes, John Nichols, the printer, Francis Grose,
Christ, Brown^ John Bunton; the Politicians,
the Literary Laboratory, and etchings of Grose,
Grainger, and some of the early printers from
Ames, From the latter, and that t»etter known
old hoohsflhr Dunton, he has borrowed largely,
and compiled u light readable " feast of anecdotes,**
and, tmly described, "stolen scraps." The
author's initials are W. W., understood to stand
for William West, at the period a bookseller in
Cork, but an Englishman whose reminiscence* are
all of his native land, A. G.
The editor of the Aldint Magatinc was William
West, who contributed to it the interesting letters
referred to by Mr. Olphab Hamst. The Fifty
Ytatf^ RecoUedioTU of an Old Bookselkr is a
separate work by the same author. It was
" printed by and for the author," at London, in
1837. Such at least is the stiitemeot on the title*
page, though on passing the hundredth page a
second title-page arrests the eye, which declurea
that it was ^* printed by and for the author/' at
Cork, in 1835 ! The motto on the first title, "he
has been at a feitst of anecdotes, and stolen all
the scraps,** accurately indicates the character of
Mr. West's book, which is an amusing farrago of
odds and ends, pertinent and impertinent, A
lithographed portr&it of Mr. We^t forms the fron-
tispiece to his work| and iVwt ^kjo^ ^'ftX.^t ^AXiss^'^'i^-
id^^
456
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6^8.ILDia5,7i.
Btoiy will be found registered in the pages of Syl-
vanna Urban {Gmtkman^s Maaasinif 1855, Tol.
xIiT>y N. S. p. 214). The BecoUectitmi it dow a
mre book. William IL A- Axok *
'* BoBOPQE Enqlibe " (5*^ S, iL 303) prevails
most extensive! J in tbe county of Sussex^ wheie it
IE found in 140 manors. The eastern is also more
or less in use in ComwaD, Derliy, Devon, £^x,
Glamorgan, Gloucester, Hants, Hereford, Herts,
Hunts, Kent, Leicester, Lincoln, Middlesex, Mon-
mouth, Kortk^mptoD, Kotts, SaJoa SttiHbrd, Suf'*
folk, Surrej, and Wajwiek* K. S, CaARNOdc*
Grftj^s Iim.
Hub custom obtains in the Manor of Kirton-in-
Xdndsey, In the count j of Lincoln.
W. E* HOWLETT.
Wharton, in the Law Ltjdeon^ sskjs that the
custom obtiiins in the munors of Lambeth, Hack-
ney, part of Islington, Heston, Edmonton, &o.
Fbede. Eule*
F. 3. wiU find much information on tbis ancient
tenure in Ths Omiom of Bcfongh English m
§smHng i7t the County of Sussi^^j by Geoige E.
Oomer, Esq., F.S.A., 1853, — a pampElet reprinted
&om voL vi, of the Sussex Atdmolagiccd Ooiiec-
ttoiw* There is also anotber useful paper on the
eame subject by the late Mr. Comer, road before
the Sufiblk Institute of Archaeology, Jan. 10, 1856.
Edwaed Peaqoctk.
Mr. Furley, in his admirable Hutory of tAe
W^ald of Kmt, sajs tlmt —
" In Surrey there are no Icsa than tlurtytbree Borougb
Enj^lbi]]: Mnnorap mcluditig LmipiiHeld] on the Surrey
■ido of Westerham, and Lftnib4?th, KeQumj^ton, Bfttterse**
Klchmond, Croydon, DoTkinf^, &d. . . . Them arc i^boat
150 Boroagh EnglLih Manors in Suwex, including Wftd-
huratj Trant, Flay den, and Id^n «mong the fnmtier
manon."
The custom^ he informs ua, ia not known in
Kent, I gladly tiike this opportunity of recom-
mending to all students of English History and
Topogntphy, especiiJly natives of Kent, these moat
interesting ana instructive volumes* They are
simply ej&austive of the subjects on which they
treat. Edmund Tew, M,A,
"Satjadon^: Hoa Sat., 13, 107 (5^* S. ii.
285.) — I should like to know in what dictionary
of what language tbis word is to be found. Such
a substitution does not deceive schoolboys, but
woidd be more likely to iwid to their inevit4ible
Tocabulaiy of improper slang. The system of
eirpurgation is a siUy one. Byron was referring to
an edition of Martial, in which the obscene
epigrams were absurdly put together ; but Martial,
a poet who must be read by any one desiring la
studf socio} life in ImperLol Home, and to eiyoy
the Latin language in its uiost nudleabla fonn^ h
not put into the bands of met« cbildren, being
unintelligible to students untU thoy bare rtacboa
an age at which his grossnesa should ei^ender dii-
guflt. MonTimER CoLLnieL
Enowl HilJ» BericB.
PonTUQUB9E Coor (5«^ S. iL 3270—Thia k not
a coin, but a weight for a quarter Ji»nne% minled
by Joannes ¥., and current in Knglftnd for nine
shiUinga. Weights of Portugu^e 3oina art T«ry
common ^ I have sevand, including the above.
BIhuel Shaw.
AndoTfir.
Thb Farablk of the ^Ojte ovlt Kib^CS"^
S, ii. 424.)— It may interest some of your mdera
to know what is the generally accepted mterpnta-
tion of this parable, quoted by you from iny
article in tbe Yorkihire Ma^osdnc.
The one only kid is the Jewish people ; the
two zuztm, the two Tables of tbe Law ; the cat,
Babylon ; its devouring the kid, the swallowing
up of the Jewish nationality by the captivity ; the
dog, Persia \ the staff, Greece ; tbe &r», Bome ;
the water, the Turks ; tbe ox, Edom or Etuopeia
nations, who are to wrest Jndsea &om tbem at some
future day ; the staughterer, the confedenite anaie«
under Gog and Magog, Persia, Oush, and Pal ;
angel of death, a pestilence ; tbe Most Holy,
God's kingdom on e^h under the MessialL
Geokoe PsmcE Grakthaii*
Alesia (6"^ S. ii. £27, 395.}— Mr, Cnirroci
will allow me, I trust, to remind him that Harfeian
MSS., except the few which are oontempomiy
chronicles, are of very little value in settiinc thi3
question, since the pedig^es and Heralds* Visita-
tions of which they largely consist were maiDly
compiled at too recent a date to be of any re^l
authority. It is probable that Alesia and Alicia
were considered the eame name— the former being
then pmcticnUy extinct— three hundred years agp.
But if they were really interchangeable names »t
the time when both were in common use— speak-
ing roughly, from 1250 to 1450—1 b^ leave to
ask again, how is it that tbe same person is colled
by both names only by a manifest slip of the pen
— two, or at most thiee, times in two hundred
years — the instances of confusion between Alexia
and Alicia being about a fourth part as numerous
as those between Margaret and Mary 1 No one
baa ever supposed that ^largaret and Maiy were
used interchangeably ; yet Margaret was litUe
more popular than Alesia, and Mary less so. The
true authorities for settling this question ai^e the
Bolls and Inquisitions of the tbirteentb, fourteenth,
and fifteenth centuries, and I hav^ "waded
through " 740 of the former and 307 of the latts.
HEBMEliTEirBC.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
457
I
I
"TlTR^o " i/t^ S. ii. 1S5, 25»i, 3Sm.)— The mtly
of *' N. & Q.'- ^ould be well ac(|uainUtl
Witil llie words ** tureen " and " terrine." The
on^n of the word " tureen '• was a^ked in 1850
(!•* S. L 246X ftnd sevenii conlributioni^ appeiiured
in that volmne, in voL iiL, and in 3«^ S. x» 375 in
1866, this last with an editorial comnient. It ap-
peiired that Mw. Delany, in a letter dated 1745-6,
iwed the form "terene" (Aniobiofj. and Cor.^
TdL ii- p. 416, Lond., 1861), and that Goldivniith
is the first who is known to have used the fonii
**tareen/* in the Haunch of VmUon^ first printed
in 1765 ; but that Vice?, Knox, m his E$my$^ tir?t
printed in 1778, according to Lowndes, has "soup
ID a china terrene ** {Worh^ vol. ii. p 57^). The
English word^ it was noticed, would be derived
fjrom the French krrine^ and the English adjective
"terrene'* was in early use. It may be added
that Pliny has terrtna vasa {Nat Hid.y L xxxr,
c, c 12), the more common epithet being /dx/ift.
Ed. Marshall.
**T«»rAiiE3rrs of tab Twelve Patriarchs"
(5«* a i. 308, 394 ; ii 396.)— I 3i*ve an English
'edition of this book : —
Londoiii reprinUd for James Fro«t» 196| Brick htme,
Whjt*ch*p«I, fiTnl Joaoph Froat and l«iac Froat, St.
Job?' Clerkenwell, from a copy printed ftt
LoTi for the Company of StationorB. Printed
l>y 1, _ ■■% St. John Street, ClcrkeQwell, 1837."
1 lULve also an edition in black letter :—
*' Printed «t I^ondon for the Compftay of tbe St&tionenj
1610/' with woodcat«.
Samu£l Shaw.
Andoven
The Frekch Word "Yetx" (5>^ S. ii. 101,
174, 237, 398,)— If Outib, after aU that 1 have
said^ IB still of opinion that the relationship be-
tween ^ewi* and oaths is the same as, or in any
degree resembling, that between jmitnal f and diis^
I naTe nothing more to my. But I am afrafd he
will fitand alone in his opinion. Oenlos is, aa he
hinwelf admits, the Latin futhtr^ of ycux; du^
as he himself tulrnitj*, nolhinj^ more than the
'not grandfather of jovrnril f (journal, diurnal is,
diumuA, dieaj. Arc a father and a tjrmt tjrand-
raC&«r the rj'*"' n^r.., ; i^^t him tiud »Boiher
not a single letter in com-
/ I deny that ytux and
Uy speaking, a letter in
nctly proved that the two
UA have nothing w Uiiiover to do with one another.
F. Chance.
• More mother, ti only one in*
tllTifJTiul 1 ^jction. Perhapt mothiti'
yfct term, ne there %ft
i as mothers, mithout
iffOhfsr
ci<m with its
[<k;u/o* have,
Icomnion. I
11 I*vC5 lie :il>v-i^-.? UM> " c'OJrupt Latin'
)]e would uie *' Itnlina " I
viicrc
J. T. Skrres (5»^ B. ii. 2B9, 364, 397, 418.)—
The liipee of time, nearly h»lf a e^ntury, since the
publication of The Lifcy &c,, i«, I think, a sufficient
reascm for the alleged scarcity of the copies of the
book. If the friends of Mrs. Scrres could have
raised the needful supplies, they might have en-
deavoured to buy up the work, which was detri-
mental to her chai^M^ter. It is not probable that
George IV., or any member of his family or govern-
ment, would have given 5J. even for the purpose.
It is also improbable that the idea of Commander
Morrison, that the writer of the Ryves statement
in the MominQ Fosfj 184S, was inrhiced to dis-
coDtinue the stojy by the offer of a diplomatic
appointment, accepted by him from the British
Government, is based upon truth. The Com-
mander, like many men of genius, was credulous,
enthusiftistic and prejudiced. This Eyres grievance
was just the sort of hobby he would ride to ** the
death," as the saying is. Upon the final occa<iion
of my conversing with him in February, 1866, he re-
ferred to this claim as a just one, and he alleged that
Mr"?. Ryves was assisted considerably by persons of
rank ivnd substance in her legal cause, &c. Until
its ventilation in WcHtminater Hall, before Sir A.
Cockburn, &c., I was a believer in her claun. Thi«
triid convinced me, and better judges, that the
claim was a fiiUacy, and that her grand appeal was
based upon error or unoonscioua fraud.
Chr. Cooke^
CoRpsRs Buried in Walls: " Utraque m
UNA THECA," &c. {b^^ S. iL 185, 234, 298, 337,
398.) — Being still unconvinced, I write once again
on this subject, although I have no wish to compete
for the last word. Oyjtn) means generally n re-
ceptacle. The first meaning given oy Lidtlell and
Scott is ** a case to put anything in, a box, a che«t."
Coffin^ then, conies fairly within its classical
meaning. But, with deference to Mr. Tew, the
Greek Lexicon is not our best guide to Low Latin^
Bede did not write with Liddell and Scott at his
elbow ; and if his meaning is not clear from his own
text, we must look for light, not to ^schylus, but
to mediicval Liitin writei^ ; and our dictionary
authority is Du Cange. Bede is, as Mr. Tew f^ayg,
speaking of a translation, and that to me seems
to exclude the idea of a grave* The point of the
whole b that the bodies were not re- interred, but
pi aced i n a CO tti n or re Ii q ua ry ft bore iffn u nd . A ud ,
tui-ning to I)u Cange, I find he il
other meanings being the vault of im apse aiid a
finger ring, both altogether unsuitable to the pre-
sent fm»age, J. T, MiCKLKTewAiTK.
Mr. Micklethwaite can confirm Ids translatloa
by the XV. Canon of Auxcrre, 59(»: *'Noiill«et
itiortuum super mortuum mitti."
MAciiETS?;^!. Si* C ^K iAja«T\.
458
NOTES AND QUERIES.
l5>^8.U.DK.5,7i.
« The BuTTERFLT^fl Ball " (5"^ S, iL 327, a52, 372,
418.) — It may be thought tliat the iubject h more
th&n exhauflted ; but aa I find it stated by S, D* S,
(p, 418) that " Mrs. Dorset was UDdoubtedJy the
authoress of the Butt^rfi^s BaU" I thmk it right
to mjf from baving been personallj acquainted,
that it was written by Mr. Bobcop, the author l>f
Lortmxo tfc* Medici. I remember, too, sitting with
him at AJJerton, in 180S, when bis son Edward
jokingly produced, aj9 a apecinieu of its popukrity,
ft copy of it printed on ft pocket handkerchief which
be had bought, the day before, at Chester Fair.
W, M. T.
" Aches '^ (5«» S. ii. 68, 139.)— The following
occun in the article '^ Errata," in the ihriosUus
''8wift'« own edition of The CUm Shov^r hiA 'old
w^hm throb.' Achei i^ two BjlUbles, but tnodern
printerVj yiho h^d lost the right pronunciatiaa, tii^Te
acb^i m one pjllabb, and then, to compiete the metTCj
har« foiitfld in ' hch^a teiU throb,' ThuA what the po«t
uid the llnguiflt wtih to pr^aerrc li altered and hnuUj
loai"
R. Pasbin^h^m*
LeTTBRH by " Ak ENGLTSIfMAX " (5'^ S. i, 40S J
ii. 214.) — Umbra says these lett^ra were published
in a separate form by Mr. Bohn, rind I therefore
presume that the foUowjog pamphlet is a different
one* le the author known f —
** Thfl inT^ian of Hiigland cotiaidered in a letter and
poitEdript to til e Time*, dated 30lh J&tmary and 5th
Februaryi 1S52, containing the opinions of the Duke of
Welliogion aud other officers of diatiDction on thii im-
portant nibject. Br an Englishman and Cirilian,
[MottoeifJ London, J. Kidgwny, 1852, 8ro*, pp^ S5-"
OLrHAR HamsTp
BiBLtCAL Evidence (5*"^ S, il 228, 274.)—!
possess a copy of the work to which Minugius
probably refers. Its full title is \—
'* An Examination of llie Testimony of the Four ETun-
geliss, by the Rules of Evidence Administered in Courta
of Justice. VVUh a.n Acdotint of the Trial of Jesua. Bj
Simon Grecnlcafj LL.D.j ItoyaU Profea«or of Law in
H arrard U n i ¥ c rsi ty , Boeton, 1346, S to., pp. 5^13. "
The author is one of the moat eminent American
jurists, his Triatm mi ili^ Law of EvMenct being
ih^ authority on thai subjeot. The compiler of the
Afntrican Biographical biciionary does not over-
Btep the mark when he saya :— ** The beauty of his
style, and hb correct expositions of law, have
placed him as an author by the side of Black stone
and Kent." Gabton de BERNEVAli,
Philadelphia.
" As KOUND AS A ROACHK " (5** S, ii, 274, 314.)
— Me. Walcott asserts very positively that St,
Koche, and not the fish called a roach, is alluded
to in this saying \ but h he aware that the same
«ying existi in French? *'Sain comme un
gaidoii " is literally " As sound as a roach." How
sue we to Bccount for tliia, coincidence, except b|
some iupposed quality in the £ali ? Is it likely
that a samt who '* is usually represented pointing
to an ulcer in hla left thigh " would hare heett
selected as an example of soundness ? See, li0V-
ever, Johnson's Dictionary^ at the word " Eotch,"
where a different speUing, rochet ro^t is sng-
geated. K M*C.
OuertLBey.
'^Kestbez-votts" JS*** S, iL 169, 265) is coo-
demned by Bishop Hurd, who writes (as quoted b
Latham's Johnson^s Dictionary^ ** I kiiow not how
[it] came to make its fortune in otir languag^e. It
is of an awkward and iU oonstractJoni eren in the
French.'' Richardson remarks, that whilst the
noun is common in our old writers^ theyerb fotmed
upon il is not so.
It is to be obaeired that neither Latbam nor
Richardson mentions its occurrence in Sbakspe&re;
yet it will be found four times in the pkjs:—
1 Rmry J?", Act it, bc. 1, line 57 ; Utnty F.,
Act ii, aa 1, line 15, and Act y. sc 1, line 76;
HamU^ Act iw sc. 4, line 4 ; spelt indifferently
rand^uouSj rendeuouj, rsudtwtix^ and rcudt^ouM.
Several examples of the use of the word could
be given froni other old pkp ; for instance, Ch^
mail's, Jonson'Sf and Marston^s Easticard Hoe
opens thus :—
" Toit£kiion>e. And whether with you now 1 what loow
actio are jou hound fori come what eOtadai are yoo to
meeto withal ? when the tapper T where the randeuooi?'*
—Edition 160 S.
Bpaek3 Henderson Willi avs.
EBOfliDgton Creaeeot, W.
St. Catherine of Sienna (b^ S, i, 387, 433 ;
ii. 17, 77.) — See Caiherina da Siena (Sanda) Dia-
logo d4 hx Divitia Frovidenlia^ small 4 to., fine fiill-
page spirited woodcuts, Venice, 1494, There ia
a short notice of her in Alexander Boss's Fani^ia;
OFj a View of all thi Edigioru of th^ World,
E. B.
BoatOQ.
BtTLL Baiting (5** a I 182, 274, 312, 455 ; il
299, 39R0— ^® ^^^E ^ number of ballads relating
to local country sports and pastimes, Arroiger
has coUecLod aisTcral, but hia work ia vory imp^'
feet* In Craven we have a ballad called "The
Wigglesworth Hunt," which, I believe, has never
been printed. I have heard that it was written
by a Mr, Holmes, of Sun Hill, near Hatton, in
Cmven, the father of the late Mr, Holmes, sur-
geon, of Grassington* By-the-bye, who was Ar-
ifiiger^ Is it a real name or a nom d^ plunuf
Can Olphah Hamst inform the readers of ** If,
&Q."? Stephkn Jackbon.
Tub Eqetestrian Statue rnt Leicestzi
Square (5"» S, iL ^,91, 29B.)— The ttntement
that the King's statue, though brought ^m
Canons in H^r, was not erected in Jjeioettef
0>8.II.Oic.S, 71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
459
Sqiiaic till after 1754, because ifc does not ap|>eftr
I the pliUe iti Stow's London of thiit datei is, I
Ink^ cm^neods ; for the plat€ of Leicester Smmrc
1 the fiixtli editioD, which h inscribed m ** Piib-
*he<l ace<»rilinf^ to Act of Pajliamentj 1754, for
Stow'u Surrey," has the statue in the centre, but
not frtcing Seville House as it stood forty years
Fago, but fusing nortli-weBt, so as to be seen with
most advanUige from Leicester House. The plate,
iv'hfch was ati oM one, has evidently been altered
br the edition of 1754, the old treea of Leicester
iField* having been erased, and the iron railings
iftnd statue probably added <
In LmidoH and its EntHrom Described^ 6 vols,
1761, a book dedicated to the Prince of
iTale^ [Geo. IIL], who, it is stated, then lived in
ISaville House, and, conseqaently, next door to his
I mother, the Princess Dowager, who resided in
iLeict-ter House, the statue is described as "Ad
[Equestrian statue of his present Majesty, gilt,"
iTery clearly meaning George IL
Edward Solly.
subscribed 10,(X)0?. to the "voluntary suKscriptions
for the support of the war." His celebrated son
was then nine years of age, and that son was early
given to understand that he was to be neither
farmer nor calico-printer, but Prime Minister of
England. This book demoastrateB how well be
comprehended his miasion.
** rcvolutiunitr
1 meH^i'try !'-
Ml
NOTES ON BOOKS, &c.
Sir Roitcrt Pttl : an lliittorical t^etcK By
Henry, Lord Balling and Bulwer. (Bentley &
Son.)
IliORD Palli^io, or to call bim by the name by
Iwhith he is better known, and will be always
I remembered, Henry Bulwer^ furnished, in hi^^ Hu-
\torical Characters, a noble gallery of the portraits
[of noble men* To these is now added a sketch of
J Sir Robert Peel, It often happens with the great
I^Liuters of Art, that their sketches are more Htrik-
lin^y i ifc- like than their finished works ; so in this
Icsfte, we find the rapid outlines convey more of life
[nnd chani*^ter than many of the elaborate charactera
I in thf Hi«<t*^riCHl Gallery. In a few clear, vigorous,
[well l chapters, the whole career of the
[]aU lied statesman is more satisfactorily
I de*«'niied I iian if as many volumes had been given
I to the work a^ there are chapters, Ifc was Sir
'' '"s destiny to have to carry many
h he had formerly denounced. This
_*-<... ^ iiow a great stat^man may honestly
cbADge his opinions, when he comes to understand
I that ** [jarty '' dcM33 not always mean " country,"
and that the interests of the latter arc superior to
1 all jKirty interests \vhrit«oever. What are called
^ " come to be adc^pted aa
LiDst revolution* Peel was
1 ruan, ' and not, as he haa sometimes
' the business gentleman." He waa
t. His grandfather "inherited
; ijut one hundred pounds a year,
IV) hi/ which is Btill in the family."
^randfuther turned trader and calico-
j J:r' father of Sir Robert was even more
I prosperous than the grandfather. In 1797, he
Ihigiut and kit Contemp&rariit. (RiTiogtozis.)
All bioji^raphy ie deUghtful, mid this story of Bouaet is
eminently ao. It i:^, of course, un old gtory, but it baa
the cbarm of novelty in the hAnda of « new narraior.
Boflsuet furnUhes another proof of the fact that wi§o
men can utter very foolish thini?^. Louis XIV. httneelf
muBt have Emiiod with contempt at bearing the great
preacher thus address him in a Heriuon from the pulpit,
** Sire, he were abhorred of God and men who failea to
desire jour glory, even in this life/* fcc. 1
Social Life in. the KuffUih UnivtrtUia in th^ EiahUenih
C*t^ttity, Compiled by Christopher Wordsworth, M.A.
(London, Bell k Sons; Cambridge, Defghton 3: Bell.)
The compiler of this admirable view of Univer«ity Jife
has masttcked libraries in order t<> take from them all
he needed for \\h illustrations. The volume as well
deserves to be peruFcd by the general reader as by Uni-
veriity men. Nearly seven hundred p«gcB, and not a
page that is not made lively by an anecdt>le ! We tnke
one grain from the piled-up measure, merely to allow
how long a grie ranee may last. In 1659 it was asked
" whether the Cattona of Christ Church ought not to eat
the bread of Affliction, &ince they refuse to cat the same
bread and drink the same drink with the rest of the
College ; which, indeed, ia so bad &a nerer waa wone
eaten or drank but by the same Canons before they
came to be Canons." Mr. Wonls worth sayi : '* A similar
question was asked^ with no less Tehemence, in 1S65."
CaUndar of State Paprrt, Foreign Series of the Keign
of EliKiibcth, 1569—71. Preserved in the State Paper
Dep«rtnicnt of Her Miyeaty'a Public Hecord Office.
Edited by Allan J. Crosby, Eiq. (Lonj^msn?.)
Tub above two eventful years are productive of very
important iltii^trntions of life at home and abroad, which
are here catenJartd. The scenes of battle, incendiar-
itms, hanging and burning on the Borderf, when Mary
Stuart's fricndi there were stamped out, and their
pleasant homes utterly destroyed, »rc most vividly poar-
trayed. Perhaps Shakspeanan readers will think less
of all other papers than of one which h thus descnbed :
** Lord Scrope to Lord Burghlcv. There i^ one Robert
Laifiyr, a Scotchman, servant to Mr. George Verney, who
has brought oat of b'cotJand other five young men, with
hawks, and would pass into Warwickshire to the said Mr.
Vernev and Sir Thomns Lucyo, wherein be desires to
know his pleasure. CarUale, 1() Sep., 1573/' In the year
previous, Justice Shalluw's neighbour, Shakipeare'^
father, rented the Ineton Meadow farm of fourteen
acres; and the year after, 1672, SbaVipcare. according
to Mr. Dyce, first went to the Free School at Stratford.
HtPaiVTs A 511 New Editioks tempt the public at this
season more thiin the usual gay and glittering volumCf.
Mr. Murray has juet issued new editions of Mr. J. A.
Crowe's Ilandbonh of Painiing ; Tht Gmnan^ FUmiMk^
a? -uid of biidy £astUke'cJ edition of the
// \/\q: Tht lialtau Schools, origiunlly
ediL... . , ... ...Aries Eaatlake. With these superb
volumes one may sit at home and yet travcrtfC famous
schools and galleries, and be intix)dueed to the most
renowned painters. Mr. Murray has a>so added the
fifth and tilth volutneA to iVv<t tV««^ ^ft^^A^wt^ *=::««*«».
■i^
460
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^ S. II. Dec 5, 74
Bobertaon's Hktarj of the Chruiian Ckur^ Vram
the Bame haius^ wq Iiiltc tUe Sit^ha and Sittdttt,
Dacrtpitte trnd Jliiloncait by R* J* King, B.A. Tfa€««
art reprints from poriodlcfile, imd ive Ueartilj recom-
mend them to oil as ecin»iftiBg of thoroughly beiUtliy
and aUracdvf! matter. We direct esp^ciid notice to
the eicellont retiring by Mr, G«rtlo«r^ of Paifiley^
of Jamei Uogg*i Jac^^hiU JUlm of ^k^iandj hemg
iJu Sofi^s, Airs, and Lfgeuds of tht Adfi^enls to Ui€
ffoiisi hf SlufxrL With poetry there is rousSc, and
wilh 'l>ot]i illuitr&tire hlstorf . Th&rt ii a fountain of
lAi^bt«r and h fountain of teura in theee two chaining
Tolumea* The reader cloBe« them with regret ; and they
who tnt down to the piatio with them will be loth to
leare soundm| the eeuoos of the old tanefut J&cobite
time, Mudcal echoes^ too, will he found in Mr, Tegg'a
charinmg ruprint of Croftcn Croker's Le^mdi of
Eiliamtift ft capital book. Header* more fleriouflly
giren will find what they require in the reprint of ft
curious doTotiotiat book^ The ^infi Travd to ikt Land
of Canaan, irhtrim are fitimvertd SeivntteA Fatt^ lUiU
9hort ttfiht Sptriluai Comiftj of Ckriat in. theSainti* Thin
reprint of WilkinBOTi^e work of 164E ii isgued in a pretty
form by Trijbner k Co. What may l>e called & eeadonable
reprint will be found in Mr. W^ C. HazUtt'i Ftttti/ Taitt,
L^gtnd$t vk}\d liomaneet, Itlusiratiiiff iSkaktpeare and
ot^r Earl If Enplith Wriiert. TJ)Ji work forms a union
of Hitdon'B Fairy Tatet and Haltiwetra lUustratwm of
the Fairtf M^ihoiogif of a Midsumvur Jffi^M'^ Drmn^
with additjona and coTrections. A moat amnaiiig book.
Epitaphs of Kentish C Lunar.— Mb- E. H. W. Ddit-
KUif Kidbrooko Purk Koad, Blackheath, writes ^ ** I
ahould he glad if your readers would kindly fonmrd me
copies of any epitaphs in thoir [>ariBh church or church-
yard relating to th{j clei^ who hare held benefio<»m
Kent during the laat hundred jear^/'
Fatjieb PnouT.— Mk* BLAscnAnit JEftBOLDj Reform
CUihj writes : *' I am prt?paring for publicatian Finai
Jl&liqueM of Father Proulf and I fihrjuld be much obliged
to any of your rcadtfra wJvo would favour me with any
anted etc? J ktt^^rs, or notes of tht eccentric ptidre, Fer-
bapa you witl allow me to make tin a appeal to bookish
men throu^^h your columns"
Mjit TmiBtuuiiv informe us that he hopes to edit ild
antobiograithy of Mr. Backstone,
C. writes :— " EniTSBFBGn Uetiew*— A writer in the
Oentletaan'ji Ma^asine for this njontli, say*, ' JefiFrcy's
ftftlary bad been Y^iOi. iv ycfir, and the edit<^ra]up of tlie
Sdinhvffjh iZffif'i;* w^iP thou the blue ribbon of literature.'
In a sketch of Jtdrev'* BfejContributtd shortly after his
death to a periodical work, I stated, on auihority from
Edinburgh, iha followg : 'From 1803 to iSfMi. a sum of
200 ffuin«"9 WM ^\vK\\ [by Conattiblej for oditiuK each
number, Tbo account hwiVn are ndssmg for three years
after 18(t9, but from 1813 oti to iS'itl, Mr. Jeffrey is
credited^ " for editing," 7t*0/» a number.' On reading thisj
Lord Cockbtim, the friend aiid biographer of Jeffrey,
wrote me, ' I consider it as ce^rtain that the 21 fJ^. and
the 7(KJ. for each numberr left the editor to pay the
whole writers. The nature of this drawback may be
judged of from one factj that Jeffrey once paid 1.000^,
per advance for articlea not yet dreamt of| to a fllngla
contributor,' "
W. H, McftPttT.— See the artielQ ""Qas. rnanufaetmi;
of/' in Enight'i Cjfdopo^dia, la 179^2, JVlr. Murdoch
lighted hlA house at Redruth, in Gomwall, mud in 1791,
the shopa of Messrs. Bolton Je Watt, at Sobo, with gjtt.
In IdO'I, M. Iiebon proposed to light & portion of Pirii
by similar tneftas. Tha B. 0. (Allege at Btonjhuiit
adopted the "new light" in 1307, when it waialaaap
flied to iome lampa, by I^tr. Winaor, in Pmll Mail fa
810^ the Chartered Oas Compiiiiiy obtftEned an Act of
Parliament, and oa Slat December, 1S13, Wettiuiiditf
Bridge wa« lighted with gas, the pftriah of St* Margaftfi^
Wr would remind all who Itlindly intend to contiilmte
to the ClinjtmJti Kumt^sr of *'ii, k Q^/' that they cxa-
noiforwfmi th§ir JlJoitrjitiTe papers too txslju
Weatminater, in the following year, substikitiog gpa fof
oil throtigbout their district In 18^0^ Fmu f<^vid lii
eiample thus set by LondoD.
A. C. n.— " To a close^shom sheep God gitM wind bf
Dieaaure" (Herbert Jii^ida Fr%dmtHm, 1640). "Dieu
meatjre le froid k la brebis tondue '' {Hetiri ^tknae^
Prtmicet, 1594h Sterne*s " Ood tempera the wind to tiks
shorn lamb " [SentimiRtal Jt?uTWfy, ll^S) deacended ti
him J thrtnigh Herbert, from Estlenne.
Pumc^— In Longfellow> workii J. T. Bl»tef that tbi
Lord Petre^ who waa Grand Master of the Frtttmmom
in 1776, was not & member of tha Eoman Gttbolk
Church, being excoEnmunictited by the fact of his b^i^
a freemason, When his Lordship censed to he ft taatim
be waa reconciled to hla church.
T. Frost. — You are at perfect liberty to make nte of
the papera referred to, but on the underatandiuf that
a note i^ made in your forthcoming work to the dibct
thftt they erigiasilly appeared in " N. k Q-'*
St. SwiTHm remindi ui that '*^t Luke'i tdttte
Summer " duly arri?ed in October. Perhaps some Cana*
dian contributor will tell us hew about the '* Indian Little
Sommer."
J, M. H. — See FapieofiK't Dietioi^my of Coatt qf
A rmtf j mt completed*
**An AtrsTHiiM ARStf " haa marched And coenter*
mirched through " K. & Q,,*' till reference to it b
wearisijme.
E, B. aske for a copy of VTarreo HastingaV Tervon d
Horace's Otium Bipoi Ro^tiLi.
QoLit Haobour.— b'ee General Inde^tej to the first four
aeries of " N. k Q*"
C, A. W,— For Walworth statue, dagger, and haH, sse
Old and A'eip London,
W. H.— The inBCriptioui on the Cadgcrt' Map hare been
repea^tedly printed*
hams XYIIL— The parish books would iolfe tbc
qoestion.
J, G,— Please to forward query on ''Ancient GenJ^M
Docunients."
R. Wins, JcK.— See " NMt Q,/' ahU, pp. 229, 313L
LiBtsSA. — See Murray's Uo^ndbook of S. Otrwusta^f.
IV'aterlcxj. — See the WeUmfjftoA Dupatdi^^
DiRTT Dick.— See }fot^irfnt CAttrndery,
Cue, CctoKE ("Serres "),— We htive a letter for yen.
proTiCE.
Editorial Communieatlons should be addreeied to ^ Tki
Editor*' — Adrertisements and Hucuiesa Liettera to *'Ths
Piibliiher ''—at the Office, 20, Wellington Street, Strand,
London, W.C
We beg leave to state that we decline to return coot'
municationa which, for any reason, we do not print; and
to this rule we can make no exception.
To all communications should be affixed the same sixl
address of the sender, not necessarily for ptiblicatioOf but
ai ft guarantee of ^^ood faith«
I
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
461
LOXDQX, SATURUA T, DKCSUIlER i% isr4.
CONTENTS. — N« 50.
KOTBft :— Tbn 8acr«d Lotns^SL Jobii's Chjip«l, Bfulford Kow,
Mid tbi Kattr Er&figeUcal CletKy of London, 4til— Anus uf
fHutMisM'^'BUach&rdiaeiiaUE^Iri^'- ^'-^ Arabs
la 1!^14 — KfcholM Stone — Joui ^ >n and
T«e*dled«e. * Pruich Verdon — <, -Chrli-
I
^
QtfSEllfiS : ^ Bishop of Uiui(UfT, frmp. Junids L^Boiir:
Brlflga— "A Lone Woman "—Ho rAhlic -The CbQ«i«cake
Houte la Ilj^ie PaTk— Mijsalij DotLjichQuiense — PutllicAl
SooQomf, 407 — "Tli« Kafliab teemef a foole, and ti a
fooifi"— Th« Grienoi» ol Dublia^MurUMcm in Priyat^
Hotuet-^FcoAaoB in a Wliite Sheet — EILKabeth Rhodet,
Third Wife al Thonit* Wentworth, Earl of StrafTord -t>tl
PalatiDK -Halifax Gfainmar School— A Curloiit Wlab— "To
MIsUma MarkCarei Htutef " — ** tScotaagteitdath " — Lord
SftRjmore, 4Gi.
BBPLIG^'OLiaUin: ''Hoc ol dixit," Ac. (SaMxtnf), 4«0—
••What U a Pooadf" 470 -The Fight at Perth. 471 —
"SMrill*': "Slade."* 472 -Spelling Reforms^Jt^ofraphlcal,
4Ta^-*»l»«rtHlre WiUs-*'La parole a 6t4 cloanfro/' ire, 474
— '' ' ' ' " ^ " -"Slogan "; "Kelplo": "G leu -
Hi I Englund/' 47ci -The RotsJ Veto
— 1, '? Ms Ifnte4=-C;tr.1f\T5 Welh in
<lark to^^
"Topty-Titr^
rUn of the A< i
—Edward Mur
Soti— Tames Bayor^, iiie uariciiun^i
Wcttwarti, 47a
f Hotel on Booki, Ire.
THE SACRED LOTUS.
In India, Chiua, and other Eastern countries
' ' T have visited, where the Bnihttiinic»l or
I religions prevail, there are, j\.5 is well
fpnsn, two species of thi«5 plant of peculiar
Lint<>rcsL The root of the smaller and the seedn
larger, or tme lotus of niytholon^r, are edible,
>fonner, however, is in3i|ifailic4mt as coinimred
'i€ emeraltl bucklens, uod snowy or rose tite-
corolli of the lutter ; which, moreover, is
ikable for having a curious funael-shiqjed
receptacle, riiJing from the centre of the
OiHt in ihe form of n reverned cone, iwuttlly
t three inches bigh^ and whose sides are
tiy e<|Uiil to the diameter of its disc, from
h th© Heeds j*li;y;ht1y protrude. It k on thiji
^i£tti fl'iwer tkit X'isbnu, the creator of the
h represented as enthroned,
xi«t4*uce those auc^resiiive ceons,
'to -1 rent, corre^jx^nd with the
i of th' ; hut it h ot\ly the (letiikLs
(lower* nn wiiuu the Hindu god is seated,
urr viwblf, iimL appiircntiy, not without
\dcnv
lioQ of the lotiis, it i^ all<iwe4i,
.. ah the Aiyan race, which, in what
Ue eoiUd lh<f youth of mankind, rmd the
book of Nature with a spiritual insight, and scarcely
required any special revelation to teach it that,
perhaps the best sermons may bo found in stones,
and ** booka in the running brooks,'* for inanimate
Nature is full of hieroglyphics quite aa remarkable
!i3 those of the celebrated Letter-tree of Thibet.*
Yet, the '* primrose by the river's brim '• may be
to one *' a yellow primrose and no more,'* while to
another it is a note, if not a page, in the golden
book*
One may in fancy picture, at the first flush
of the Oriental dawn, the prehistoric Aryan, by
the margin of some A'4ian lake, breaking his fiuit
on the seeds of the wondrou?« lily, who8e peltat«
leaves are floating on the still and shadowy ex-
panse before him ; and contemplating the peculiarity
of their exhausted receptacle, until on his mind
fliished the first light of mathemattt:al science,
he invested with a divine intei'est the circle and
equUateral triangle combined in its form, and
then gltjrified the fiower whose fruit, hy two pure
signs, admitted him into the arcana of the uni-
veRe.
But In Gourde of time, to veil the true signlfica-
tion of the object of their veneration, the early
priests tshowed only the petak of the blossom Ut
the vulgar, and reserved for their own order »
knowledge of the inner and true throne of the god,
I should not have ventured on the alwve remarks,
but for the circumstance that I am not aware that
any suggestion or explanation has yet been offered
of the caui*e of the high eiitimation in which the
sacred lotus ia held by Oriental nations* Sp.
ST. J0HN*8 CHAPEL, BEDFORD ROW, AND
THE EAELY EVAKGELICAL CLERGY OF
LONDON.
This chapel, once memorable in the annals of
the ** Evun^relical "^ movement in the church, ho.^
now entirely disappeared, having been pulled
down about the year 1859, It stood north of
Bedford Row, in or adjoining (rroat Jame^ Street,
where scmie new buildings are inscribed " Chapel
Street." I have in my possession a sermon
*' preached upon opening a new Chapel, now known
by the name of 8t. John the Evungellf^t, within the
Parish of St. Andrew, Holborn, on the HUh day of
Febniary, 172-2-3. By Natlmntiel Mar^ " ' D^
Preacher of the said Ch:\pel, and Ohn) li-
nary to His Majesty," Loud., 1727. ii irct
of the sermon is ** The Jewish Syu u * the
Model of Christian Worship, or of \\ ui^^hip in
Christian Churches. *•
8t. John's Chapel became sahNffiitr-niTv famous
during the ministry of the R* 1 Cecil,
the well-known preacher of the i y Him
memoir, published shortly after his decease^ says
that he was invited in the year l7Bo to turn hiji
* Travel! of the Abb^ llua naA^.^^^tJo*^.
462
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6*aiLD»al2;7i
thoughts to this chapel, then much neglected and
out of repair. The result was that Cecil took
charge of it, and continued to minister there be-
tween twenty and thirty years. Among his suc-
cessors were the Rev, Daniel Wilson, afterwards
Bishop of Calcutta, and the Hon. and Rev. Bap-
tist W. Noel, who seceded from the Church and
joined the Baptists. Speaking of St. John's
Chapel, and its most distinguished minister, the
high-minded and disinterest^ Cecil, whose powers
as a preacher must have been of a very high order,
I am desirous of making a note of the house in
Little James Street in which he resided. This is
No. 15, at the comer of John's Mews, now occu-
pied by a wine-merchant. I know not whether
the pane of glass be still in existence on which, in
this house, the missionary, Henry Martyn, in-
scribed his name with a diamond immediately
before quitting the shores of England. If any of
the readers of " N. & Q." are interested in remi-
niscences of the first leaders of the Evangelical
movement in London, let their feet repair duly,
on pilgrimage bound, to Orange Street Chapel,
Leicester Fields, where Toplady preached, before
Cecil entered on his ministry at St. John's ; or
let them seek out the church of St. Mary Wool-
noth, in Lombard Street, where they may ponder
over the grave of John Newton ; or, finally, they
may gather up a few recollections on visiting St.
Ann's Church, Blackfriars, where they may read
the long characteristic inscriptions on the tombs
of the Rev. William Romaine and his successors
in the rectory. Romaine was also lecturer of St.
Dunstan's in the West. It is known that, in com-
mon with his brethren, he met with much opposi-
tion in the earlier years of his ministry. I well re-
member a relative of my own, who was one of his
hearers, telling mo that he attended St. Dunstan's
Church one cvenin^^, when it was found that the
churchwardens, objecting to lectures on week-days,
had removed the lights, and the service was with
diflficulty carried on by means of a few scattered
candles. I have omitted to name Thomas Scott,
the commentator, who wrote his commentary in its
early editions, if I am not mistaken, while he ofii-
ciated at the Lock Hospital. Whatever judgment
may be formed of the views or religious opinions
of these men, no one who knows their lives, as these
have been written by their relatives or friends, can
doubt that they were unworldly and disinterested
in the highest degree ; their ministry, as in the case
of Cecil and Scott (whose lives in this respect it is
painful to read), was encouraged by the very
poorest pittance ; they did not seek, as assuredly
they did not find, rewards of the ordinary descrip-
tion. S. A.
•Tumham Green, W.
ARMS OF ENGLISH SEES.
Canterbury. An archiepiscopal palL Grindal
once, and Parker upon two of his seals, used the
arms of the priory, which had been adopted by the
deans, az., a cross arg., chaiged with the symbol or
monograih of Our Blessed Lord, for Christ Chuzdt
Bath. Az., 2 keys, endorsed, in bend simster,
the upper arg., the lower or, enfiled with a swoid
in bend dexter. Church dedicated to SS. Peter
and PauL
Wells. Az., a saltu» per saltire, qnarteib,
quartered or and arg. Cnurch dedicated to S.
Andrew.
(Glastonbury. Arms of the monaste^.]
]!bichester. Az., Our Blessed Lord in majesty
sitting on a throne, in His left hand a book inscribed
" Liber Monumenti coram Eo," and His right hand
raised in benediction, His head nimbed ; and from
His mouth a sword issuing. Church dedicated to
the Holy Trinity or Christ, as at Canterbury,
Norwich, &c.
Elv. Gu., 3 crowns or (arms of the patron
saint). Church dedicated to S. Etheldreda.
Exeter. Gu., a sword in pale, arg., hilt and
ponmiel or, surmounted of 2 keys, endorsed, in
saltire, the dexter or, the sinister arg. Church
dedicated to SS. Peter and Paul.
Hereford. Gu., 3 crowns or, arms of K. Ethel-
bert ; gu., 3 leopards' heads, reverseil, jessant-de-
lys, or, arms of S. Thomas Cantilupe, canonized
1319.
Lichfield. Per pale, gu. and arg., a cross of
Jerusalem, potent and quadrate, in the centre and
between 4 crosses pattee, all count erchanged. Pro-
bably given by Bishop de Clinton, the Crusader,
"ecclesiam Lichfeldensem erexit t4m in fabrica
quc^m in honore."
S Coventry. Arms of the monastery.]
Chester. Arms of S. John's Collegiate Churcb.]
jincoln. Gu., 2 lions of England, or, on a chief;
the Blessed Mother enthroned with the Holy Child,
both nimbed ; in her sinister hand a sceptre, all or.
Church dedicated to S. Mary.
London. Gu., 2 swords, in saltire, az., hilts aod
pommels or, the dexter surmounting the sinister.
Church dedicated to S. Paul.
Norwich. Az., 3 mitres, labeUed, or. The see
was consolidated out of Elmham, Thetford, and
Dunwich.
Rochester. Az., on a saltire, gu., an escallop or.
Church dedicated to S. Andrew. The escallop is
probably a mark of difference to distinguish this
see from those of Wells, Dumblane and S. Andrew's,
besides being appropriate to the site of the church
on a tidal river also famous for its oyster fisheries.
Salisbury. Az., the Blessed Mother standis^
with the Holy Child, nimbed, or. Church dedicated
to S. Maiy.
Winchester. Az., a sword and k^ saltienrise,
6"8. II. Dxc.ia.Vi.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
463
in chief a in It re of the second. Church
dedicated to SS. Peter and FauL
^ WorcuHt^r. ArJ,^, \0 iorteuux, 4, 3, 2, 1. The
bishop celebrAted in the presence of the inetropo-
iitaii or in a meeting of the Ckillege of Bishops,
To this service the ''Hosts'' refer. Lyndwood
cnlh the hishop *' Capellamis " in the College of
Bbdicps. [Provinc. p. 319.]
York. A pall.
C^irlt^le. Ar.| on a cross sa., a mitre, inbelledj
«r. Anna of the priory erected into a see.
Durham* Az,, a cross, or, between 4 lions.
nviDp., iirg. (Arms of K. Oswald,)
p.,ti,n,f^.k of the New Foundation bear the old
, COn^ : I [18.
I .... ,. i .^ome time since to doubt if there
TTcn? ever any [)ortniit of Preater John ; Butler,
Heylyn'a contemporary, I ought to have remem-
I b<red, auys : —
'. . . Like the mighty Prestcr John,
Whofte fftce none dares to look upon,
But ia ttreserveJ iu close difligiii!<ie,
From being m&de cbemp to Yulgnr eyof."
The Ladyt Anttc^r to (he Kntfiht, L 277*
Mackenzie E. C. Walcott.
i
BOTANIC GARDEN, CHELSEA.
Henry Field ^Tote an account of this garden
I (Gilbert, Clerkenwell, 1820Xand it contains several
points of interest. It says that John Gerarde, who
wrote the Herbal, had his garden attached to hi-i
hou^e in Holbom, 159(3, Is it known whereabouts
t^iis hou^e was situated J It is not specified by Cun-
ningham* John Tradescant's wa.«^ the next in the
South L.nnd>eth Hmidi on the site now occupied by
the Nine Kims Brewery (Timbs says, p. 50). This
I has given way to the railway probably. There is
' A euriausi monumentid tomb to the memory of
I Uxcse Tradescants, of whom John was ganlener to
I Charles L Mr, Field al^o mentions a botanic
Siirden at Wc,^tiriinstcr, visited by Evelyn, lOtb
une, 1G5S, tmd kept by the botanist Morgan. It
' at the Apothecaries' Society purchased the
t obtain possession of the plants for their
den at Chelsea, Whereabouts wab this
[ gardi'ii I it h not mentioned anywhere by Cun-
jiin;.') ■"' >>■" Ky Timbs.
< II Fays the ground was leased to the
Ai. (\jriipany in 1673, and that it was
Field gives Charles Cheyne,
I lieyne, as the owner who leased
It to tiie bociety for sixty-one yeaw at 5L per
anniun.
In I r»83 four cedara were planted in the garden
npftr th*^ river. Two remain, Field says (p. 12), at
. the other two were cut down after about
» f>vnD'^ to their decayed atJite. In 1750
Ujt) iiiriMiied IL feet in girth; in 1793 upwards
of Ti fe<^t. On the 15th August this year only
one remained standing. Field says (p. 69) that
the two decayed ones were cut down in 1771, as also
same Ume and elm trees in the *' Officinal quarter,"
as being injurious to the growth of the plants.
The trunks were sold (p. 70) at 2ii, 8c?. a foot, the
boughs rtt U. 4^/. a foot.
When Sir Hans Sloane obtained the manor of
CheUea by purchase in 1721, he granted tlie free-
hold of the garden to the Apothccjirres' Company,
on condition that the Professor t^hould deliver to
the Royal Society 50 new plants annually up to
2,()(X). Field st^ites, however, that Sir Hans
Sloane received a yearly rent of 5f. I always
thought it was a free grant, and Cunningham
states it to be so. Can any reader enlighten us as
to this point l Does the Apothecaries' Society \)i\y
anything now ; and if not, when did they cease to
pay if
The first delivery of plants was in August, 1T22
(p, 33). The kst recomed delivery was i7th July,
1774, the fifty- first annual presentation ; 2,550
plants in all. Field adds,—** It is perfectly certain
they were continued long subsequently to that
time»'^ but the minute books of the Society Imve
not noticed them.
Of the ^* Herbori/.ing " excursions, the^firat was
in 1633.
There is a clause in the lease that, if ever they
build over it» it will revert to the Royal Society.
William Forsyth resigned his post of gardener
to go to His Majesty's garden at Kensington. He
prepared a composition to remedy the diseases of
trees. Is it known what it wils ? He published
a work, 1791, Observatiom on the Discase^y IkftcUf
and Injuries of Fruit and Forest Tixc^.
A useful fact is recorded (p. 100). They set up
a pump in 1315 to supply the garden with Tlituiies
water, finding that Bpring water injured the planta
much.
Phillip Miller was ap|)ointcd in 1722 to the
garden. He published the Gardaifr's DicUoiiary^
1731, folio, and it was translated into Dutch,
German, and French, edited by Professor Martyn,
in 1807, in 4 folio vols. Is this the Professor
Martyn who edited the O^^rgicSy and enriched it
with excellent botanical notes ] Miller left a hkrge
herbarium, which w fiis bought by Sir Joseph Banks.
He wa.s buried in Chelsea old church, and the
members of the Linneao and Horticidtural Societies
erected a monument to bis memory, a cenotaph in
pillar form. Has not this disappeared ; and if so,
who removed it ?
An Edward Oakley (p. 41), an architect, is
mentioned aa having erected the buildings in 1732.
Does he give name to the present Oakley Street I
Cunningham is silent.
Also the name of Lyall occurs (p. 1C>4), of the
Swan Brewhouse ; and he is permitted to open a
window overlooking the garden on an annual pay*
ment of 5*., and signing au a^<i«.\Rfex^Vft OkS»fe^&**^
464
NOTES AND QUERIES.
lf^8.ILDio.l2,74
reauired at three months' notice. Is Lyall Street,
B^^nravia, called from him ? Cunningham is silent.
Mr. Alchorae (p. 70) presented in 1772 forty
tons of old stones from the Tower of London, to
raise an artificial rock for such plants as delight in
that soil ; and Sir Joseph Banks, a quantity of lava
from Iceland.
These are the principal facts, useful or curious,
in connexion with the garden which I find
enumerated in this rather scarce book ; and I hope
that some readers will be able to answer the
Sueries which have arisen in the course of jotting
own these remarks.
Can anybody give the origin of Milman's Row
and Flood Street, Chelsea, in the immediate
neighbourhood? C. A. Ward.
Mayfair.
PARALLEL PASSAGES.
Milton and Charles Wesley. — In Paradise
Lostf Book iv.. Eve thus addresses Adarn : —
" With thee conversing I forget all time.
All seasons, and their change ; all please alike."
In Wesley's Hymns (1741) is one by Charles
Wesley, beginning —
"Talk with us, Lord, thyself reveal,"
in which the second verse runs thus —
" fViih thee conversing, we forget,
All time, and toil, and care ;
Labour is rest, and pain is sweet.
If thou, my God, art here."
V.H.LL.I.C.I.V.
*' Love wil nouht buen constreyned bv mai8tr6.
Whan mai8tr6 commeth, the god of love anon
Beteth his winges, and fare wel, he is gon."
Chaucer, Canterbury Tales, 11076.
" Ne may love be compeld by maistery ;
For, soone as maistery comes, sweet love anone
Taketh his nimble winges, and soone away is gone."
Spenser, The Faerie Queene, Book iiL
Canto i. st. 25.
** Love, that's too generous t' abide
To be against its nature tied :
For where 'tis of itself inclin'd.
It breaks loose when it is confin'd
And like the soul, its harbourer,
Debarr'd the freedom of the air.
Disdains against its will to stay,
But struggles out and flies away."
Butler, Hudihras, Part iii. Canto i.
G. A. B.
St. John's Wood.
In one of the old visitors' books preserved at
Stratford-on-Avon, Washington Irving wrote the
following lines, which have been greiitly admired ;
" Of mightv Shakspeare's birth the room we see ;
That where he died in vain to try.
Useless the search, for all immortal he,
And those who are immortal never die."
The last line of the above is uncommonly like that
of the following translation (by Lord Neaves,
presume) of an epigram by Pannenlo, " «]W\idvvi^'
to the story of the Pythian oracle having dedaied
Alexander to be invincible ": —
"The ramour's false that Alexander '• dead.
Unless we hold that Phoebas told a lie :
* Thou art invincible,' the j^ftbian aaad.
And those that are invincible can't die."
The Oretk AnOioUgy, p. 7&
Longfellow has be^i praised by the ciitict for
likening Death to a healer of pain and sonow, in
the following lines iu his Evangeline : —
'' And as she looked around, she law how Dtath Ik
consoler.
Laying his hand apon many a heart, had kaaUd Hfor
ever."
This, however, is by no means original. In the
Anthology, from whidi I have already quoted, the
same idea is expressed or conveyed in an epigram
by Agathias : —
" Why fear ye Death, the parent of repose,
Tnat puts an end to penury and painl
His presence once, and only once, he showi.
And none have seen him e'er retnm again.
But maladies of every Tarjring hue
In thick BuccesMon human life porsae."
P. 107.
Lord Neaves observes of the above, that
" iEschylus had anticipated this List idea by
writing of Death as the only * healer of irremediabte
woes.' " And in another epigram (by Any t^) Death
is termed the " kind healer of our woes " (p. 199).
W. A. C.
GlaFgow.
" That beat a whelpe afore a Ijonene ! *"
Sir John Haringion,
To his Wi/e, for Striling her Dog.
" Euen so as one would beate his offenceles^e dogge.
To affright an Imperious Lyon."
Othello, Act ii. sc. 8.
George R. Jesse.
" Blanchardixe and Eglantine," 1597.--In
Mr. W. C. Hazlitt's excellent Handbook this Oiird
edition of a Caxton romance is not entered, and the
copy of its Part I., 1597, in the Hamburg Libriiy,
is noted as a whole copy, of two parts, of Uie second
edition of 1595. My friend Prof. Wagner sends-
me the following description of the Hamboig
copy : —
" * The I most pleasant | Historie of Blan- 1 chardine.
Bonne to the King | of Friz, k of the faire E^antine
Queene of i Tormaday, (Sumamed) The prowl | Lady in
loue. i ♦* I By P. T. G. Gent. I At London | Printed by
George Shayv, for William Blackwall | and are to be
Solde at his Shop, ouer | against Guild-Hall gate. |
1597.'
" Second leaf (A 2)—
" * To the worshipfuU and mo^t towardly | Gentleman
M. Wil.'iam Peeter, | Sonne and Ueire to the rig^t
Worshipfull I Sir lohn Peeter | Knight.'
" And fol. 2*' at end of Preface :— •
Your Wor. at commaund ] The. Pope GoodwiM
It "A
I «,Y
5* S. IL Drv, It, 7<.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
of bkocliAnline^ his nor- j img ftnd Kli bringing
' m 3)/
resign. H:-
** * ChJip. V'. I How BlftnchArJinc haumz rode all night,
fomu! ail | armed Knight sore wou&dod lying on tho
* Then M 2 amX M 3, but 5i 4 is not raarked. So
aJflo C 2 iuiU C 3. but not €4 -, 19 2, but not 9 3
Lftod 9 4 ; Ihetj e 1, e£, e 3 (not e 4) ; then dT,
^# 2, 3 (ut>t 4) : then G (Latin letter). B 2 iind # 3
'- ' \-\ the lourth leaf ngam being
k ; then Hi, H 2 (LiUin letter),
jti .. r>MLiv kriiic ,iiml on what ougbt to be ft 4
jthe Btory ends with the following remark, whicli
|U printed in L:itiii lettera : —
'* • Thu» Gcntlomcn, hai^l abruptly ftni«hed Ihii first
?)arl^ i it I'll" «• "^li •iCAmdveuturea ivilh the true cC.»tant
t>uv 1 M« the proudc Lady in louc : which
lif it ii I your good ffluouriu I will verj
[•honiv uiuk^j 111' ^ooond purlc 1 rcAdictorthe pft!»«c, ia
I the Uieanu while 1 wigh ye well | Fiuts,'
^i^yu.- u -t.. —consists of 32 l<*Jive3, in-
Idu* lo itself is in black letter;
I the -..X. , ,t^, io the t'lmptffs (of which
Itbcrc at- r 21) are in Litin type; the
Injutilng L.„....^ jf each pag:e, *Thc Historic of
IBhuich^rdine/ being likewise in Latin,^'
F. J. F.
Street Arabs in 1816.— A rcDort, dated Lon-
. I ^16, "Was publihiied by a Com-
ring the causca of the alanniog
>pus« iiiir T >rl; Hi jiency in the Metropolis.
tn Appeml . ! f i**, such as the follow-
**A, B,» imcd 13 y^ars, Hi« pareDta are liTin^- He
inu but for u ihoit timi^ ut scbooL . « » This boy hts beea
IIt^ xttin in the comu i^^itln at crime, and been im-
inifODcd for three ret ui-vitc ofTenccs. tSftUenee of diotk
•'I H child hfts been in the
hriV I r two yell p<. In Cotent
I'f between thirty and
,t under the ?hcd« and
cu liiumjht
• n »cpftr»te
Lhe Houae of
Correction, and three times in bridewell. *
David L\ A. Agx
Wait^wn. K.B.
EW.
A deed, dated fvth ^x\no^
hcfore ine^ beio;^ a mn-
.,mJ r.,,,,. Tn, ,...;. f.\.vi .,f
to His ilajesty. The ground
TU^ Uii^ t^ io tnc'ite h ( (bUcli ietter).
is flescribed as being part of Covent Garden aod
Lon^ Acre, or one of thetn, and extended bfick-
wards to a piece of ground late in the tenure of the
Countess of Anglesey, and a piece of ground wh<?rc-
in the stables of the Ri^ht Hon. Pliilip, Earl ©f
Pembroke, then Lord (^harnberiain, then ^tood^
Hugh Perry»a coachmaker, is mentioned as havio^j
a hou*ie in Long Acre. Henry and John Stone are
mentioned ais sons of Nicholas Stone. He was the
architect of York Gate, generally attributed to
Inigo Jones, of whoni he was a pupil.
W, H. LAMillX.
Fulham.
Joan of ARc-^The following epitafth on her
is to be found, writes the author of Vunodtit* of
Litcratttrc, in Winstanley's Huiorical lUffiHu: —
•* Here lies Joan of A iir : the which
Some coant Mint, and some ooant ifitch ;
8oine count wti«, and tomethiDg mirrt ;
Some count maid^ uiid Aome a ^ .
Her /'/e'ji in qucGticn, wrong or right:
Her dmtk '» in doabt, by laws or laighC
Oh» innoeetice ! l^J^c heed of it,
IJotv thou too near to guilt doth *xi,
(Meantime, Frantt a wopder iuw—
A woDxan ru!e, 'gninitt Salique law I)
nut« rouJcr, be content to itay
Thy censure till the judgment duy ;
Then ^halt thou knuw, and not before.
Whether tainlf wM, manf ma»>/,or^.**
FliEDR. UULE.
TWKKPUKDUM A3fD TWEEt>LKDEK, A Fll&NCU
Version'.— Swift'3 epigram on the rival musicmtiM,
Handel mid Buononcinii in in every jest-book.
But a French equivalent for it, by the <*hevAlier
dc Ruthi^reSi made on the fami>U8 <iu.'\rfel l>etweeii
the Gluckist^s and Picciniats in Paris, half a century
later, is lem known. I find it quoted in a not* to
Marmontel's mock-epic on the subject, given in the
rare supplementary volume to his collective works*
Thus it runs :—
" Efit-c*T Gluck, eet cc Piccinij
Que doit coiirooner Polymnie ?
r 1 lluck et Picciiti
T aite eit d^iUiiL
L"i t ce que Tautre nie,
Et CiiM *eut bttttre Uranie.
Pout moi, qui cruirs toute manie,
Plus Irrtsotu i *' ^ "'',
N'5pou9ant V '-<^k.
Je n'y conoAi s Glack"
P. Blahu
Melbourne.
Cybil Tovrnettr, — 1 have ju^t rwid a plny*
colled The ^ff^nd Matd't 7Va^«/v, one ot the
three plajJ* that escaped the hands of ^V'arbu^ton*8
gervnnt, * It was printed in 1821 from Mfc?., and
tn tlio preface it is stated thut the authorship of
the play i& unknown, it living been attributed
BUcceiKively, in t^ » Thomas (Jotfe, Chap-
man, and, in a 1 . rititv^, Ui ^WV*\w«^
For my own TpsaX, 1 \>tX\t.\^ VXm^ \^s^l ^» Vw^\!««^
466
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6* 8. IL D«a 12, 74.
written by Cyril Toumeur. There is much of the
Websterian element in it ; the same sort of weird-
ness that appals us in the Revenger^a Tragedy.
My object in writing is to ask the editor of the
promised " Plays and Poems of Cyril Toumeur "
to carefully examine this pky, and if he find reason
to brieve it was written by Cyril Toumeur, to
reprint it. Even if the editor were not thoroughly
onn vinced of its authorship, there would be no harm
a.jiie in reprinting it ; there are some really very
striking scenes in the play. A. H. B.
Christened at 61). — The following entry, from
the fly-leaf of a Bible in my possession (date 1599),
of the christening of one Mary Cliaplin at the ripe
age of 69 ye^irs, appears to me to be worthy of
notice :—
'• Thea are to witness that Mary the Dauthcr of Edward
Chaplin Carman was cristined in the parish of Saint gilsis
without Criplegate London upoun the 25 day of March
1638 as apperrith by the Kegester Book there unto
boloing 69 years of age."
I may add that the Rev. J. Stevens, the curate
of the parish, informs me that the above entry
occurs in the Parish Register.
Granville Leveson Gower.
Titsey Place, Surrey.
Illustrations, New and Old. — Happening to
come across a publication familuir to the general
public some years ago, I was nuich amused to find
the manner in which a variety of illustrations had
been used in it from previous publications. The
following is the title : —
** Unabridged copyright edition. The Yelverton Mar-
riage case, Thelwall v Yelverton. . . illustrated with
portraits, views of localities, leading events, and impor-
tant situations. Price one shilling. London : George
Vickers, Angel Court, Strand [IStJl [, 8vo., pp. 191."
Now the " portraits," " vievs of localities," &c.,
are all taken from previous publications in the
most promiscuous manner, but more particularly
from the fVdcomc Guest. To one who recollects
this periodical, it is exceedingly funny to find an
old familiar cut (vol. ii. p. 351) originally illustra-
ting that interesting story, *' The Finest Girl in
Bloomsbury," doing duty for an ** important situa-
tion " in the above trial (see p. 185),— poor little
Ickle and his bouncing spouse turned into the
chief actors in the Yelverton case !
As one of the " views of localities," we have " A
street in Tangicrs" {Welcome Ouest^ vol. i. p. 291)
turned into ** The street in Constantinople " !
(Trial, p. 8J).)
A cut illustrating a story by your witty, but too
occasional correspondent, Mr. Sal a (vol. ii. p.
351), is turned into "the verdict excites consterna-
tion," &c. (p. 189 of the Tri(tl).
An illustration to a tale by Miss Braddon (vol.
ii. p. 471) is made to do duty for what, I suppose,
11 a "Jeading event, ' namely, "an evening party at
the General's " (p. 6 of the Trial).
Altogether, the most amusing and unexpected
results occur. This kind of thing early had the
high authority of the great Geozge, king of ilhuh
trators, for a precedent ; but hu etchings have
long since been too valuable, I belieye, to be nude
to do double duty.
* The above is the Irish trial only, and the illiu-
trations certainly help to make heavy reading
somewhat lighter. Olphar Hakst.
Oliver Cromwell.— I have noticed, in one or
two of the daily papers, articles and letters as to
the doubt which exists about the fact, whether tlie
body exhumed and hung at Tybum was really
that of Oliver OromwelL The following items of
information might be interesting to some of your
readers : —
Walter Cromwell.
I
Thomas Cromwell,
Earl of Ess'ix, be-
headed by Henry
VIII., 1540.
A daughter=Morgaii
t WUliamt.
Sir Richard Wi1Iiam8==Franc98, d. of Sir Thomai
atsamed name of Murfyn, Lord Mayor of
Cromwell. London.
Sir Henry Cromwell==Joan, d. of Sir Balplk
ob. 1G03. Warren, Lord Mayor of
London.
Robert Cromwell of==Elitabeth,d.of SirTboroaj
Huntingdon, oh. 1617. Steward, of Ely, ob. 16M.
Oliver Cromwell.
From the Register of St. John Baptist's Church,
Huntingdon : —
•'Anno Domini, 1599. Oliverua filius Robert! Crom-
well gener. et ElizubetU ux. ejus natua vicesimo qointo
die Aprilis, et baptisatus vicesimo nono ejusdem mensts."
In 1751 Dr. Cromwell Mortimer possessed the
original mason's receipt for the money paid for
disinterring the Protector's body. It ran thus :—
"May, the 4th day, 1661. Received these in full of
the WorsbipfuU Serji.*ant Norfolke, fifteen sbillingi, for
taking up the bodies of Cromwell, and Ireton, »wl
Bradshaw."
On the breast of the corpse was found a metal
plate, on which was the following inscription :—
"Oliverus Protector Reipublicas
Angline, Scotia;, et Hibemise,
Natus 25to Aprilis. Anno 1599,
Inauguratus 16" Decembris,
1653.
Mortuus 3** Septembris,
Anno 1658", hie situs est."
This plate in 1737 was in the possession of the
Honourable George Hobart, of Nocton, Lincoln-
shire, and in the same year was shown to the
Society of Antiquaries by Mr., Willes.
J. S. Stapfobd.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
467
IW9 mu«t request oorrespoiidcnta dfiatritig infnrm&iioti
on TftmUj matteri of only private interest, to affix their
duum tmd Addrefscfl to their queries, in order thftt tho
UkBwen nwy h« adilre^od to them di]^ect.]
Bishop of Llandaff, temp* Jathler I. — I have
|ji Btnall 18tno. volume of Kermoiis of this divine^ as
quaint in style a.^ Hiitrh Latimer's, and as full of
lition as Jeremy Taylor's. There is the cus-
j dedication prefixed to each of them, and
these and the sermons abound in curioiui
bbloricjil sujrirestions. Thus, in the dedication of
^raif€rs Frcseri*ativt ; or^ the Priiux's Privy Coat
► Chnrles I., tho power of prayer m extolled ; —
*• For this was it wh^ch delivered Hii >I»jestie from
llhc Oowric'a coriiplracy: this thftt hlew away tho
l6i«niHh fleet to 8S ; thiJi that blew up the Gunnepowder
^lot: thif thttt blew home your Hiifhnc^de. when you
nk&dred aa a bird from her ne^t ; And thi» Ifistlyi which
Btely catchi and laicht you up betwixt the stirrop aod
^tbc ground; and which ehall/' kc.
HoiT there ia a plain reference to an accidental
tumhlc of Prince Charleses horse, that caused
ome talk at the time. It ought to be mentioned
' at this »emion ha^ two dedications — one to
[^*hafle«j m King^ and another to Charles as Prince,
* explanation Ymri*^ that it was put to press early
In 1025, and King James a death occurred before
was printetl oH'. The dedication of another
non on ** Tht Earth's Encrmse ; ot^ a fJom-
nuhton CufK Presented to the King^s Most
Sxcellent Majesty for a New Yeere's Gift," of date
|Ci24» revealh the fact thiit it was a fixed custom at
at time for the Court chaplains to present each
Fft ""'^ f" the Kini? as a new-years gift. The good
f J Llandatf excuses h imiself on this occjusion
._ in the usual courtesy, pleading that the
ijity ^' of his place prevented liim from ottering
^*ug better than a sermon; but he slyly
l^ll letter written by one of his admiring
to the printer, which concludes with a
__ ily wish that the sennon " may take so well
ith his Majesty, and make him sognicious, as by
next new yeare*s tydc to inablo the Author to
nt him with a Cup indeed, reall and niassie/'
in a third dedication to the Duke of
|iaghatu. the good BL^hop alludes pointedly to
Qptjpuhirity which Prince Charles's com-
n, in the foolishly romantic journey to Spain,
^ht down ujKjn himself : —
' A« the bc«t Treacle it made of Vipers, and the OiJe
^f s ,,rn; IT.. 1* .r,„.i .i.*ui,t their ttinging, so God doth
ony of Merit, and Aoctama-
i'Uth of Calamny. Of Buch
n^jire saivc juur 1 rtdi fc iiuth had experience tipon jour
■PPy rcturnc from Spaine/'
Wanted further inibnnation touching the life
nd writing* of thia worthy Theophilus LivndAn-
luw. D» Blair.
Melbourne.
Bow: Bbidgk,— I find that bridges in the
Someruet moors have been anciently known as
bowB. Thenj are several bows at Burn bam, and
there are the Great and Little Bow Bridges at
Langport, Although the word has only recently
become obsolete, and it ia known as a bridfre in
several parts of the country, as the Bow at E«liD-
burgh, and Stratford le Bow, Essex, I wish to
know whether it is known in any other languages
as hynonymoun with bridge. It seems to have
been called bow from its likeness to that weapon ;
and in the case of Stratford le Bow must have
been introduced there after the departure of the
Romans. As to bridge, what is lU root, and when
was it first used ? The Wekh evidently got their
pont fron\ the Romans. In Domesday 1 find in
Somerset £r*<j7tV (gene rally considered to be Bridg-
water, Brvggit^ held by'Walter de Dowai), and
Brigefordj which I take are forms of bridge.
TACTNTONlKKaiS.
"A LONE WOMAN."— Does any one know an
earlier instance of thin phnise than that below,
from flv. Lonclich s Huton^ of the Holy Qrail^ ab.
144M-.56 A.D., Pt ii. p. 245, for E.E.T.Soc., 1875?—
** Ful fain wolJe thanne thia ^jode t|wene,
Tiiat liire broihir Owt Of p7Y»oi) badde bene;
But sche WU8 tho A lone womman,
And fill litel Heed of this soho kan j
To fltryven A^ene hire Barony o,
B<he ne hiidde non itrewgthcCertemlie."
F, J. K
Heraldic. — To what family does the following
coat of arms belong (tinctures not known)? A
chevron, the upper part embattled, the afjcx thereof
surmounted by a flag (?) or key* (I), between two
mullets in chief, and a sun in base. Supposed to
be a Scotch or an Irish coat, W. M. H.
New UniTcrsity Club.
Tqe Chbesecake House in Hvde Park.— I
have a curious old print of this house. On what
part of the park did it stand* and when w^as it
demolished 7 George Ellis.
St. John's Wood.
^Iias.4.LE DoTiNCHEMENSE. — In the Eech^io*
lorfist of 1853 (London, J. Masters) are printed
two sequences extracted from a MS. Missal then
in the possession of the Rev. J. H. Horner. This
Missal 13 said to have been written in 1446, by a
priest of Dotinchem. In who«e possession is this
Miftsal now? W, H, Jaues Weale.
Bmgea.
Political Etonomy, — Where can I find an
answer to the following (luestion ? The approxi-
mate number cf human tieings who can be sus-
tained on the produce of a given acreage in (1)
• The impremiofi of the feal bearing the armf li to
indistinct thut it it itnpoimblo to my pOiiiively what this
charge if.
468
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5«aiLDao.l%'74.
Potatoes, (2) Wheat or oats, (3) Meat or grazing
land. I belieye this calculation has been made
more than once by competent authorities, but I
have not been able to lay my ]iands upon it.
W. R. Greg.
Atbennum Club.
"The English seemes a foole, and is a
FOOLE." — Whence came the following, called, where
it is quoted from, " that common prOverbe "? —
" The Italian seemes wise, and is wise ; the Spaniard
fleemes wise, and is a foole ; the French seemes a foole,
and is wise ; and the English seemes a foole, and is a
foole."— Thomas Scot, B. D., The Highvaies of Ood and
Oe King (162^), p. 8.
F. H.
Marlesford.
The Griersons of Dublin.— Wanted, any
source of information which would give the names
and other particulars of these celebrated printers
of Dublin in the last century. T. W. C.
Marriages in Private Houses.— Since the
commencement of the present century (though the
practice has now, I believe, entirely ceased) marri-
ages among the nobility have been frequently cele-
brated in their own mansions, and in the evening.
Were such marriages registered in the registers of
the parishes in which they took place ; if not,
where can evidence of such marriages be found ?
M. J.
Penance in a White Sheet. — What is the
most recent instance of this penance being publicly
performed in this country under sentence of any
Ecclesiastical Court ? I have lately met with an
instance of its bein<r ordered in 1816, but whether
the parties obeyed the law I have been unable to
ascertain. I have been told that about the year
1842 this penance was performed by a bargee in a
church in Cambridgeshire, when a number of his
brother bargees attended, and the result was a riot
and great injury to the church. M. N. S.
Elizabeth Rhodes, Third Wife of Thomas
Wentworth, Earl of Strafford. — Can you
furnish me with any particulars concerning her not
contained in the various lives of her husband?
The points I particularly desire information on are
as follows: (1) The exact social position of her
family ; (2) Whether there is any portrait of her
extant except that exhibited in the National
Gallery, Kensington Museum ; (3) Whether any
letters or diary of hers still exist ; (4) Any par-
ticulars of her life after the death of her husband.
Francesca.
Oil Painting. — I have an • old oil painting
(portrait of a lady), and on it is the following in-
scription : " Isabella Da RouxseUe De Grancay
Dame Da Tour De La Reine D'espagne." It a]>-
pears she was a lady of honour to a queen of
Spain. I shall take it as a vcsry great &voar if
jou will give me anj information as to the time
m which tne qaeen lived, or anything pertainiog
to the lady herself so as to form some idea of the
age of the picture. Wic. Gbavht.
Halifax Grakmar School. — ^The seal of this
school has on it an open book with a rose shore it
and a portcullis below, with the date IC^. The
words on the book are " Qui mihi discipnlns poem
cupis atq." I should be obliged if any one would
interpret the above^ and stete the source from
which it is derived, if a quotation.
Thomas Cox, MJL
A Curious Wish. —
'* A very singular accident happened last mtk in 8t
James's Park. A good, decent-looking woman wii ob-
serred by the gatekeeper to be walking ba^wird and
forward by the garden wall for aboTe an honr, k>okh)g
very melancholy ; the man, perceiring she was big with
child. Tery ci?illy spoke to her, and uked her wluil die
wanted. After some hesitation, she told him that ihs
had come out of the comitry, and coald never return to
her family with any peace and auiet* unlea she vu
permitted to kiss the King's hand. Upon which the
gatekeeper, with a great deal of good nature, applied to
one of the Pages, who took an opportunity of representiiig
her case to His Majesty, who very compmsionstriy
ordered her to be sent for, granted her request, and m-
missed her with a handsome present." — The LadU^
Magazine, Saturday, FeU 3, 1753.
Was this superstition then common to ladies
in that condition, or only the " longing " of tiiis
particular one 1 Quiris.
" To Mistress Margaret Husset." —
" Meny Margaret,
As midsummer flower," kc.
Who was the author of this poem ? Mr. Locker,
in his Lyra Ehgantiarxim^ attributes it to Skel-
ton, but gives no authority for so doing. In
Dyce's adniirablc edition of Skelton it is not to
be found ; neither in the Works^ nor in the Ex-
airqAcs of the Metre called Skeltontcal, nor in the
Poems Attributed to Skelton, It can scarcely
have been unknown to Mr. Dyce, and therefore
his omission of it would argue a different author-
ship. Perhaps, however, some reader of " N. & Q."
may be able to settle the matter. C. D.
" ScoTAKGTENDATn." — In a list of burials I
have received from Barbadocs, the above name
occurs, 1687, as wife of . Can you throw any
light on it ? To what nation does it belong ?
Lord Barrymore. — Can you refer me to any
story, romance, or anecdote, in connexion with the
above-named, wMth regard to some injustice done
by him to some one to whom he had granted a leaae,
either of his property at Wargrave, on the bonks of
the Thames, or elsewhere ? Clarrt.
J^8.II.Dm.I2,74]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
469
I
[CATtriiLUS: "HOC UT DIXIT." &c (SKEEZING),
(3"» S. ii. 396, 420.)
LoRB LriTELTos^ is, aa might be anlicipated,
pcffccU^r rurlit fis to the absurdity of the paren-
, ibeeis^ h lajudis calami for which! am iinahle to
I aocouat, m^kerville (1772) punctuates thus :—
*' Hoc at dixit» Amor Binistrnm, ut uite
Dextrnm itemuit approLmitiuiiem/'
kPiOtticr (16:25, ParisLis, apud MalepejTe) punctuates
** Hoe ut dixit. Amor, BmiBtraui ut aute^
Pextrjm «t«rauit approbatiooein."
It ElliR, our latest editor (186C, Mac-
1^^ |...,...t,..>f^^ ditFerentlj from cither, and
gl?a «i! I ng of the text : —
' ,^.^ .^> .;sit, Amor siniatra ut antej
i^exrriim »tcmuit ftpprDbfttionem/'
Tene tr&iiskitors of go ters^ a poet as OattiUus me
Boi likely to give us any help. I pLi€e together
I have ut haud, iieor^ Lnjiib :—
*'L&re, before who uttervd atill
On the left bund i*meni ill,
As he ceajG^d his faith to plight,
Laughed propitious on the right."
Sir Charles Elton :—
"Ijotc Btood listening in delight,
And sneexcd hi a &ojrptce on the right/'
Leigh Hunt :—
•' He Bttid * and Lofre on tiptoe neur him,
Kijjd at Inut, and come to cheer Him,
Clapped hU Ittttc bandj io hear him."
Theodore Martin :—
" Ai thuf he whispered, Lb^e was pTeued,
And on the right propiliotis raeezed/'
Kobinson Kllis : —
'* Sciirce be ended, upon the right did eag«r
LoTO fneese amity; *tw&9 before to leftward/'
Finally. KollyV prose tranalatioti (Bohn, 1854)
Wh»»n lit' «3ii,l f}n« l^ovri vrhn hnd tooked upon him
1y from the right/'
nn as tilt? ide^i of
the it perplexes mc. Lord Ltttklton's
the r Love **wrt* favourable throughout
the it((»^(uevv '* is n buppy ^u^i^o^tion ; yet clearly
Gatnlius, who^** nHghti'Kt touches are significant,
meant somcthbig: feyond thi«. I think Landor's
nctff on tbc paasage is in his Last Fruit /rom an
iJiii Trtf; the only work of his I do not noesess ;
imd 1 hnvo an iuipregsion that the explanation
(^hich 1 cannot rt'collect) cnrnc ont in a ronvefia-
tioo or correspondence bcrwtLn Landor and
"Tjfo«;;h«uj. MoRTisTER Collins,
Kmiwl Hill, Bcrki.
In the "V
Ito,, whmu T 1^
r>n ' '■. " ^uu u^jUa Lir.t umniuiii ad
butJ : untruiu, tirrjginem recensert,"
&c. The annotator then refers to ** Propertius,
Lib. ii., Ele. iii., v. 23/'
** Num tibi nascent! primis, mea Tita, diebui
Aridug ftrguium stern uit omen Amorl"
And adds, "Amor, eci licit utrinqu© Btemueas
quiip ab eo dicta uunt coniprobavit/'
In the variorum edition of Plautns, Fteudolmj
Act i. sc. L h 105, is the following note ; —
" Ominandi sciontia ft veteram iuperttitione dili-
genter culta fuit ; q^nm KX^^ovJffriitijt^ rocahant.
QuxhI AuHoniuB nit, ejus tres species esse, non dobito
quin ha? fuerlnt trrof/i^Ct iroX/i<<c et tinnitus aum,
De stemutattone niulti, ut iVopertius" — loc. cU.
*'Cdjus omioationis soticitudinom cum deprecabantur
GnRci dicebant. Ztv ffuxror," Ac
The two lines quoted by Mr. Collins occur
twice in the graceful ode of Catullus. They are
printed in my edition — " Cantabrigisc Tyjiis Aca-
demicis. Impensia Jacobi Tonson, Bibliopol«e>
Londini, mdccil" — thus : —
*^ Hoc ut dixit. Amor tinistrnm, at ante
Dextram stemuit approbationein." — V* 0,
First, after the endearing worda of Septimius, and
again, v. 17, after the response of Acme.
The poet imagines " Love" standing by and wit-
nessing the dalliance <if the lovera, his deroteefl,
and testifying hia full approval of their ardent
language by the accepted omen ; tkkkd jxirhapfi
by his own myfsteries. The words ut ante form the
only difficulty. May not the notion be that the
bti^jy god gftve the first token on the Hght hand at
the lueettDg of the lovers, and then repeated it on
the kfl when each in trorek of rapture confessed
his power ?
May I add this to the ** farrago of conjectureB^t
Herbert Eaitdolph.
Ringtnore.
In the Aldine edition of Catullus (m.d.l,viil)
and some others of an early date, the passage
quoted by Mr. Collins is given with a different
construction and punctuation, riz. : —
** Hoc ut dixit, Amor Mniatra, ut ante
Dextra, stcrnuit ftpprobfttioue/*
And Mnretua has tbh comment on the passage : —
" Cam Septimiua ardorem amoris In Acmen sai rcrbis
iipcruii»8it ; Cupido, ait Catullus, utrinque stemuons,
qum ab eo dictn erant, comprobavit Inccrtum nutem
ett, ex utra parte prius sternulBse Amorem dicat, aunt
cnim, qui ita diittngttant.
Amor sinistra, ut ante
Pextra, sternuit approbatioae.*
alii ita,
flinistra ut ante,
Dextra atemait approbatione*
Porro reteret ftemutationem medium mioddam omen
eB»e H<-i>fh^!'i^<intur, id est, quo modo bofii aliqatd, modo
UK' : retur: at annotont interprolM ThAOcrUl
iii , * exj Thalyfiiis,
Sijt4ij^u\i flit' *p«ric i^iifrpa^ov, r) yAp /* itiX^c
* As in the text.
f lii^fi rii. TV, i^6-7. The paMft^wCtrtsAViVi^^
470
NOTES AND QUERIEa.
[6'8.ILDk.U.74.
^' E^Bp&ae autem in b{}iiiLm partem accipiflbatnTi V^^f^-
cipne wi quia dextroriQtn eUruumti, ut in Tti. Ilmdai
annotftir Eufitdtbma fi^QervK itaquc OJ,va^«ae liiii.* Pene-
lope ^ 8t«rnu(atiune lc!emachi,giiudio pflrfundituJ'j qii«m
in |Q€um iJcm intcrprea satis mulitk eid baac rem per-
tineutm eon gent : et apud eum^ (pern supra nomitiiTi,
TheocrUuia in UekaeH epithalamio ista ponmitur :
OX^u yafi^p* AyaSfoQ rt^ ifttwtapiv Ipxojaivi^ T^t
'Eq ffiraprav, {IdylL iviii, vv. 16-7.)
g«d et illud PrcpGiiii qod olienum est.
Nnm tibi tiajk^entij pritnis, mea vita, dicbiis^
Aridus^ argtitum sterault omen Amor1|
qn«m in locum plum dkeinusj cum eum pfietam interpre-
tabimur/'
Which pTOmise, by the waj, the le4iniDd eom-
mentator forgot to keep.
From the AidiJie reading of the poss^ige in
Catiillus it would seem that sneering on both sides
was considered a fayoutuble otncn ; from the other
reading spoken of by Muretua and adopted by
Liter editors (the cose, whether accukitive or
ablatirej does not Beem to be of much conaequence)t
the meADing appears to be thnt Amor, who had
beforfij aa an ill omen, sneered t<j the left, now
Bneezed favourably to the right, A difficulty,
howevcTj lies in this interpretation m to the
meaning of the word (ippTohatio j m an ill-omened
approToli shiistra approbatiCf would bo a Btmnge
expreislon. The difhculty might be got over if the
word might be talc en to moan only tcsHmofiy^ but
there does not appear to be any authority for this
interpretatLon, It should be borne in mind that
the poem is ironicaL
Elton in the only one who has had the courage
to retain the snce^nrj^ which probably the other
two poct3 thouf^ht low and vtdgar ; but then be
entirety misHes the point of the god having before
given the omen on the left. T, J. A.
I trauacribe Mr. EUis'g traniilatiou of CatuUuF^
xlv, B, f> (reading, as he doej^, mmstnt for ^inis-
tram) i- —
" Seircfl lie endeij, upon tbe right did eager
Lore buccxg amltj ; 'twas before to leftward."
The meaning sec ma to be that after the mutual
decUmtiona of love on the part of Septimius and
AcTUOf Love gave them a prosperous omen by
Fnee^ing on the right hand, though he had before
shown him&clf unfavounLble by imee/ing on the
left* Sneezing in itself did not constitute either a
good or bad omen, this being decided by the
attendant cireumstancefl, as here by the quarter
from which the sneeze came. If we read siniitnnn
(for uniHra) there is a ditficulty aa to how appro-
hat to of any kind cJin be termed Binutra. Doering,
Wthtebs, ante, p. 353. The ecboliitst on it may be con-
■ulted yilih advautago^
* This i« a miaprint forx?ii* mc. v. 611, cf gtq^ referred
to by Mn. FtcKfORD, aniSf p. 122, on which Eustatbius
has a ooromoDt,
f Var. hd. Aureus.
/ Uh. !L El ill 23'i
who does read tinUirafit^ says, ^^8Umum'€ dus^srvm
approhationan est omen faustum, n»uf ram appFO-
Imiiontm omen iiifan^tum stemuendo pmidicen.^
He also adds, 'VMemorablle est, quod Amoc
sinitiTam quoque appr^Hiiuyn^m sternuiBaa did-
IVLT," This is not a eatisfaetory expUn&Lion, md
I should be glad if an^ one can suggest a bkier,
supposing the r^eading nnts^iam be adopted. Bui
I believe sinisird to be the true on^.
C, S. J«
Bee lyisraeli'a VuruintiiM of Xiterohtre, pi 4^
edition 1866 (Eontledge), the paeoage oommenciiii,
" Oatuiius, in his pleasing poem/' &e,
Frede:. BnLE>
Surely Lord JjYTpeltqtx miitwkes the meMing
of ivun'vpLoi when he conniden it & proof that the
ancients thought the left hand Inckj. It as^ oa
the contrary, very strong e^denoe of it^ unlncky
significance in omens, so much so thftt they dan
not call it by ita appropriate name* As they
spoke of tbe Black Sm (the wor&t and most
treacherous with w^hich they were acquamted) u
the Euxine, tv^^ivos, and the terrible avengiog
Furies as the benign ones, €VfA€v%B€Sf BQ they, for
fejir of ill luckf cave a pJeasant name to the haad
whose inj^ucnce tney dreaded, J. CL J-
"WOAT IS A POFKOr-
(5*^ ii, MB, 333, 435.)
This question is not very difficult to answer, but
it has been overlaid with bo many fallacies by your
latest correspondent, Hit Joseph Pisher, that
a few words of further explanation nniy not be out
of place.
He sayi, ^* The diiEculty in this question is thai
there is tvo such coin as a pound, fti France then
is the franc, in Ameriai the dollar, &a" I am
puzilcd to know where the difficulty lies. If I
owed Mil. FiSTiER a pound, I fancy be would fiad
no difficulty in accepting a sovereign in paymeni
Has he never heard of f fanes and lire in Italj,
Louis and Napoleons in France, florins and giddci
in Germany, being equivalent terms for the same
coin ?
But he proceeds, " The answer to the question
* What *s a pound,^ may be twenty shillings or two
hundred imd forty pence," Such an answer " muy
be " given, but it would be a very misleading one;
it would imply that the shilling or penny was tbe
integer, and tbe pound the multiple, whereas tk
sovereign is the atandiird integerj and the only
legal tender for all sums above forty sbillings.
Mr. FisHKlt does not seem to be aware that ailyer
coin are only tokens, their intrinsic being le»
than their nominal value. Twenty shillings io
silver at the standard price of 5^, Sd. per ounce
arc only intrinsieally worth 18*. 9{d.
Again, ** To fix the price of gold at 3/, l7fc 6*l>
ll»aiI.Die.l2,7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
471
per mince, and then say the potjod ia an aliquot
part of the ounce, 13 reasoning in a circle." I
have tried htinl (<> <4o:*n eoiiie nienning from this
uttemnce, hu r vnelf completely ** atiimped
out,*' The »«ij II in the mind of the writer
appears to be an idcfi that the vnlue of gohl h
sdnichow arbitrnrily fixed by authority, and that
if it irere not so, something or other would take
place difr*;rcnt to what exists. Now what is the
real state of the cfu^e ?
The Stute securer by it6 authority that the
standard coin of the realm ahjill be of a certain
weijeht and quality ; that is alL The Govem-
' ' 'the slightest control over the qiian-
1 coined or the anion nt of gold in
I i t ' 1 1 J. iii.-u The Bank of En j^^land is compelled to
pnrchiiHe :ill '^ohl tendered at the rate of *S!. \7s. 9d.
per ounce, which is isimed in the i^hape of
I coin at si. 17^. 10{(L per ounce, the IJrf. per
[ oun<* bt in" tlif (illon liTK^** for minting. Each
I sovi '2336 of an ounce
iTroy ' : :.«.
Two points are thus secured : perfect freedom
I of if««nr, nrirl complete necnrity as to the integrity
off I Wjat more can be required under
I a sv . . e and unrestricted eommerce ?
8j>eaking of Sir Robert Peel and the question,
' What ia a pound ? " Mr. Fishkr does not
I Bcniple to £ay of one of the greatest statesmen
laud clearest intellects thnt ever guided the des-
[ tiniee of the Bntish Empire, *' He appeal's not to
[have understood either his own question or
fth« currency one, and the law of 1846 has been
[the fcrtde source of commercial panic" By the
M*Iaw of 1S4G" I suppose he means the Bank Act
I of 1844, by which tlie currency luis been regulated
■fo the t.n^^in^ time. The opinions of your corre-
be very intlueutial in his own circle,
surely be aware that a mere obiter
of this kind, put before the public m iihout
lightest reaiion advance<l, ia utterly worthless.
I on, ** lijibour, and not money, is the true
fVttlue." This, in the long run, no doubt is
but vabie, from whatever cause it arises, mui«t
hxe an outward and visible sign, and this is fur-
nished by currency, whether it consist of gold,
alrer, cowrie fi^hells, or pieces of Cotton cloth.
Hii- ' ke all other commoditiei*, is .subject
i demand and supply, but thtB has
noihiu- ^^ uiuever to do with the question ** What
.1 pound ? ■' The simple answer ix% a sovereign
^. certjiin weifrht and tinenes.?. J. A. Picton,
dyknowe^ Wavertree,
; i« under a very common mistake in
I Sir Robert PeeFs famous query,
ikif if* u r*ound ?" implieti that there was ?»ny
Jty in acfining the present meaning of that
JBy a *' pound/* everybody now-a-days, ex-
k WJScuc^ drciuucr^^i 4u£aiis simply a sovereign ;
and Sir Robert Peel's qoeiy wa« merely a challenge
thrown out to the Birmingham school to give any
other meaning, if they could, to the term. In fact,
if the words *' five pounds ''on a bank note are not
to mean five sovereigns, ** tell us,'* said 81 r Robert
Peel, " wliat they are to mean 1" This was a prac-
tical way of dealing with currency theoristSj who
delight to live in the region of vague ideas ; and it
was neither the fatdt of Sir Robert Peel nor of any
inherent difficulty in the matter that his opponents
were never able to answer him. Certain fixed
numbers of shillings jind copper pieces are, it ia
true, respectively spoken of as "a pound"; but
they are merely tolcens convenient because gold
coins could not practically be sulxlivided so Tow.
Their intrinsic value, and their value in the past,
are mattei-s purely irrelevant. A penny is the
equivalent in the market of a 240th part of a |>ound,
simply becuu.se the quantity of pence, like the
quantity of ^killings, is artilicially limited by the
Government. In other words, the authorities take
care, as far as possible, that silver and copper shall
be equal to, but not in excess of, the public require-
ments in the way of small change. A writer
who claims sp?ice for his views on this subject in
"K. & Q,," ouj^lit to know that the famous Bank
Act was not p.afl8ed in lH4fi, and did not fix the
price of gold at 3/. 17«. 6(i. per ounce. When your
corres{>ondent bluntly decWen thnt **Sir Robert
Peel uijpeurs not to have understood eltlier his own
question or the currency one," he exhibits a want
of respect for a great authority which I have rarely
found in association with any real knowledge of thia
fubject. Sir Robert Peel had undoubtedly erro-
neous notions on the currency, particularly with
regard to the a-ssumed effect* of issues of bank-notea
upon market prices ; and he anticipated from bin
measures effects in the way of obviating the con-
sefpiences of human folly, which are rarely to be
attained by human institutions. But his acquaint-
ance with monetary science was incomparably
wider and sounder than that of his roost con-
apicuouH opponents^ not excluding the present
Prime Minister. > Moy Thomas.
THE FIGHT AT PERTH.
(S*»> B, i. 364, 469 ; ii. m, 18!), 410,)
(ConiiKUid/rom p. 410.^
2. Mr. Shaw and I do not draw the same con-
clusions from the same facts. He does not see tbiit
there was any connexion in Wyntoun's mind be-
tween the fight at Glasclune and the fight at Perth,
except in so far as that the loss at one fight sug>
gested that at another, just as Bannockburn
suggests Flodden. But, in that instance, there waa
considerable analogy between the fights ; they
were two decisive battles between the same rivw
nations. In the other one, a fight between a band
of plundjering HighkudeiB und «om<^ Xss^-^^mkvVjpj
472
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6>^&IL DM. 12,74.
gentry had no analogy, in its nature, with a very
singular comlwit or ducllio between two Highla^id
septs, carried on within enclosures before the Court
of Scotland.
The fact is, Wyntoun kept harping on the
grievance of the loss at Glasclune. In describing
that skirmish, he not once, but twice, laments
" the duleful work done that day at Glasclune" :
he then proceeds to discuss the death of a Pope
and his successor ; next he gives an account of a
fiffht at Bourty, where fifty men at least were
killed, but which he does not compare with any
other skirmish ; then he goes on to the account of
the combat at Perth, and winds up with the
regret, that the loss was not so great as that of " the
day's work at Glasclune." I submit that there is the
strongest presumption, that there must have been
a special connexion ,in Wyntoun's mind between
the two fights. It was the strong impression to
this effect, created by reading Wyntoun, that made
me seek for further evidence of the fact.
With reference to the Act putting those who
had taken part in the Kuid of Angus to the horn,
and addressed to the Yicecomes and Ballivi, the
sheriff and magistrates of Aberdeen (in which, by
the way, they are warned, as I understiind it, not
to be led away by any sympathy with them on the
score of propinquity), it is scarcely necessary to
follow Mr. biiAw very far, as he admits that " no
doubt many of the Highlanders belonged to the
parts mentioned ; jyerhaps even these constituUd
the bulk" This is going nearly as far as I have
gone. But I must notice specially one observation
made by Mr. Shaw. He says, " The Perthshire
names Dr. Macpiikrson quotes occur among the
leaders, while Sheach and Ohm Quhewil come
among their followers 'alios suos adhrerentes,' '' &c.
The accuracy of this statement will perhaps be
best tested by givinor the roll of names in the Act
of 1392 in full :—
"Duncanum Stewart, Ilobertum Stewnrt Pfttricium
Duncangon Thomam Duncanson, Robertuni de A thole
Andream Mncnair Duncanum Briccson. Anj^aium Mac-
nair, Johannem Ayson juvcnem turn omnes alios sum
adkarentes qui fuerunt ad occisionem Domini de, &c.
Item Slurach turn fratres ejus turn ornncs clan Quhewil,
Will'" Mowat, Jolianncm de Cowter Donaldum de
Cowter cum ofnnibvs suis adharentihns David de Rose.
Alcxandnim M'Kyntalyhur, Johannem M'Kyntalyhur
Adamum Rolson Johannem Rolson cum omnihus suis
adhcerentihus Duncanum Nctcralde, Johannem Matthyson
cum suit adhcerentihus, Morgond lluryson turn Michaclcm
Matthyson cum suis adhctrentilus, tum omnts alios," &c.
The italics are mine. The punctuation, such as it
is, is that of the Act as printed. We therefore have
a list of chief men, without anything, unless the
order in which they are enumerated, to indicate
who were leaders. Besides chief men, we have
adherent.s mentioned five times, also Clan Quhewil,
and all others who may have been at the slaughter.
The adherents seem to" be scattered in rather an
indefinite wny, and cannot well be «up^sed to
belong only to the chief man, immediatelY after
whom they are mentioned. Thus it is bigoly im-
probable that the DuncansonB should hare Lad so
following of their own, and that the fint adherents
mentioned in the list should have belonged only
to young John Ayson. (It would be easy to con-
struct a Clan Ay out of them.) Again, it tarns out
that Slurach and his brothers, and ml Clan QnhewiL
are not set down as the adherents of any one, and
that Slurach and his brothers are just as modi
chief men as the two Macnairs or any other names.
With respect to the districts whidi supplied the
names in the Roll, there seems to me to be scaiedy
any necessity for going beyond the parts of Perth-
shire,'"' Angus, and Aberdeenshire, bordering on
each other. What has been termed the maranding
host appears, after all, according to Wyntoun, to
have little exceeded 30() men in number ; and it
does not seem likely that to bring together so
small a force, or even one of double its strensth,
it would have been necessary to indent, as Mb.
Shaw suggests, on Argyle or Ross, or even on
any distant part of Inverness-shire. A nearer por-
tion of Inverness-shire, such as Upper Speysiaeor
Badenoch, would have been more likely to con-
tribute.
I may mention, in passing, that Mr. Shaw is
not happy in telling us that De Cowter is a mis-
print tot Cults, or Couts. It is merely the usual
local pronunciation of the word Culter. As to the
question, to which side Sha Beg belonged, I con-
tinue to think it not very important in this pre-
liminary stage of inquiry.
(To he concluded in our next)
"Sleiotit": "Slade'* (3'^ S. viii. 452, 528;
ix. 104, 207, 307.)— These words have been already
discussed in " N. & Q." (3'«i S. viii., ix.), but tbey
may deserve a little more attention. They are, at
all events, interesting words in the distnct bom
which I write,— the Alendip portion of Somerset-
shire. Here they are found on the map, as Tims-
bury Sleight, Doulting Sleight, Gumey Slade;
and in this parish yon will hardly talk to a farmer
for many mmutes without hearing of his sleight^m
slait, or slate ; as, " The young stock 's doing no
* It is curious to find the name Briceton apptrentlj
represented in the »ime district in the Act of Scot
Parliament of 1506, under the fcrm of Macna Breiclu&
As to the names which Mr. Sdaw selects as coming
probably from a distance, there were Roses or Rossei
nearer than " from beyond InTemesB." One held Isads
on Deeside about this time. Mathyson, and Rorjioii,
Mr. Shaw says, might possibly be **from any where,
M simple eons of Matthew or of Rurie.*' I beliere that
there were a good many Mathysons besides the remote
Ross-shire ones. I do not know that Macrorie wass
name connected especially with any particular district
But few can be supposed to have a knowledge of the
distribution of names in the wilder dittricti of Scottaad
at this period.
B* 8. It. DM; 12, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
473
[ on my «l/iit tbig aciafion," or *' I 've got a nice
ot of sheep up on the slait" The M'ord* which
puz3Lte<l uic not a little when I iirst beard it, ia
applied here to a tract of high table-land ** on
&leadipv' formerly open, but since the end of the
■"^century divided into large encloaureHi und par-
' cultivated* Before the enclosure it wfia all
"iJieep-wsvlk ; nnd I am often told how each
Hock vrm taught to keep within lU own ttlaiif so
lllxat without watching or fences the «heep of
different owners seldom got intermixed. Hence the
txplnnfttion in the glossaries, **nn accustomed nm
for sheep," and ** slated," accustomed to, contented.
JBoth thigh t (or shit) and slade evidently reprc-
^^ the word, conimon to all Teutonic languaijes,
Ich li» L/fn i iiH the daihts of Ulfihis, and is found
la,* I '-'fir^ Danis*h «i^if, Swe<iish «?a<, Ger-
ImaM . sehlichtj English slight, with the
Imeanini^ of pLiin^ level, smooth, and the meta-
Iphoneal Kense of common, meun, trivial, bml, &c.
lA Mentlip etymologist explained to me the other
pdAy tbnt his hill-land "was adled a slight, *' because
it used to be made little of* — not thought worth
cultivating. He had lost the old foTce of the word,
' " ' Lord Clarendon kept when he wrote^ ** The
Je was slighted by order of the Parliament/'
lis flcnae of ** level " seems to have led to a variety
lc»f »pi)lications ; ns in d*MU, a valley, an open space
I jn n "■ ' '^ ^readth of greensward in ploughed land
|©r p Brockett's Glossartjof North Oountrg
I H «>j; ., . . ../, the track of cattle among standing
■oom ; and to fsLut^ to smooth or whet, as a sword
TfJamif son's ZHdionary). In this Mendip neigh-
I the word was applied to the lands I have
I, not, I think, because they were open,
rithout fences, but because they occupied the high
crel plutejiux, churaeteristic of the country, m
'istinguished from the steep dopes or " «idlings "
elow. At all events, I have never been able to
[jear of any piece of ground otherwise aitaated
rhich the people tjilk of ibs a slait.
The form sladt is not unknown here, as in Gumey
iflade. H vilJaiTfi near Shepton Mallet, lying in a
^ ^ween limestone rocks. Fonuer cor-
I ** N. & Q/' gave several instanceH of
til South Wales, Gloucestershire (one
M»m Stroud to Cheltenham, through
1'"^ it seems doubtful whether the
•uld account for them all, and
fct! ^m may not be a ditlerent word,
nected with '* slide."
may add that close to the above-mentioned
there are curious fisaure^ in the
stone, called tlatA (one enfmiiilly, the
rSUt/ i bat thia word must he connected with
rr\in\m 9t>me readers of ** K. &, QJ* may test
,_ J notoi by their own knowledge of the above
ardB as locally used in pb<3e-nAme>« or otheiwwe.
CUwK»n Mendip. C* P. i\
Spellixg Hefoums (6^*^ S. I 421, 471, 511 ; ii.
29, 231, 277, 43G.)— I wish to point out, once for
all (for It is an error which can only be scotched) ^
the Wong spelling caligvaphy. So in all adver-
tLnements of ladies' schools calisthenics is announced.
If it wa^ derived from the adjective icaAog, it
should be '* calography " ; and that would be quite
analogicaL But it is in fact derived from the
substantive kcIAAo^, and the reason why calli-
graphy is the right spelling is that this form has
the authority ot the purest cbtssical authors, and
the other, of which there are severiU cxi^mples in
the Lexicons, appears to be only used by inferior
oneii. In one or two cases (icaAo^/>4^ and Kak-
Xldpi^ is one) both forma Are to be found, and are
cxsict synonyms. Ltttkltox.
P.S, It seems a mere accident that the com*
pound.? from the adjective K-aAos do not occur.
It 13 not 80, as I need not say, with other adjec-
tives, Aci'*c<5^, aya^tk, &c- The word kaiAokcI-
yaOo^ is clearly not a real exception.
GEOGRAPmcAL (5*»> S. li. 308, 359, 397, 437.)—
Speriesd and I evidently take different views of
the purport of R. E. A.'8 query. He seems to
understand " the dawn " of the 2r>th Beceiuber to
mean the first appearance of the light of the Sun,
while I was under the impression that R. E. A,
referred to the beginning of the ordibary civU day,
the period of twenty-four hour^ from midnight to
midnight. Of course, about Christniiw-time, the
Midsummer of the Southern Hemisphere, not only
does the Sun rise earlier at Auckland than at the
far more northerly and slightly more easterly
locality, Fiji, as Speriend points out, but still
farther south, in the Antarctic Polar region, it
remains above the horizon for many weeks together.
I only attempted to answer R. E. A.*s query
as far as regai'ds English time, thinking one case
enough to show the principle, which is easily ap-
plied to aU other nations who calculate fn^ra a zero
of their own. The division of days should be
made in each case at long. 1 B0<» from zero, whether
that zero be Greenwich, Paris, Vienna, St. Peters-
burgj Washington, or any other place. The only
points on the Earth'.H surface impossible to com-
mence from would be the North and South Poles,
where the 360 meridians converge,
I extract the following paaaiige from the in-
teresting article by A E. B. (** N. & Q." !■* S. viii.
648-0), mentioned by Speriend :—
"Regarding, then, the meridian of 180" m the neutral
pojntj tbe moat rational syitem, io far iv^ Dritish ecttle-
nil? *- - " — -- • -^ tn reckon J,>ti "^"^-- ^ tb w»ya,
fn' wo«t from ' »md to
rej; (tt in arrr i , li iims.
luid aU L ac iAA in advance of it. Aud thiiii
the met! I by modem nATigat<ti-a,**
It wriiLM ai>|>cAr, however, from the rest of
A E, B/s article, that thia iw^i^A^vi. ^ v^ xsrfv. >K«k.-
n^
474
NOTES AND QUERIES.
16* 8. II Dec. 12. IL
versally in vogue even so late as the end of the
last century, and that hence arose the practice of
certain Christians at Tahiti and at Pitcairn's
Island, spoken of by Speriend, of reckoning hy
Eastern time, their progenitors or precursors
having gone out by way of the Cape of Good
Hope. If, at the present time, these Christians
consider Greenwich their zero of longitude, or, as
may be the case at Tahiti, Paris, and still persist
in reckoning by Eastern longitude, they are cer-
tainly wrong according to modem usage. Indeed,
A. E. B. shows that in Tahiti they are at variance
on this point with the French authorities, who,
no doubt calculating from Paris, reckon the time
properly by Western longitude.
Any practical difficulty may be easily got over
by the adoption for the time being of the local
reckoning of any country in which one may
happen to be. I do not know whether Washing-
ton or Greenwich is the zero of longitude for
American ships ; but on shore, Americans seem
to feel no inconvenience in going by Eastern
reckoning in China and Australia, both which
countries are in Western longitude as calculated
from Washington.
It is much to be wished that all nations would
agree upon one common zero of longitude, and
they could hardly do better than follow the old
geographers, and adopt Ferro, the westernmost
of the Canary Islands, about 18° west of Green-
wich. The 180**^ meridian would then cross a
rather wider part of the far east of Siberia than
. that now traversed by the 180"* meridian from
Greenwich, but with the exception of Siberia and
the two Polar regions would hardly touch any
land. It would separate New Zealand from Aus-
tralia, and possibly Australians visiting their
friends in New Zealand, and New Ze3anders
theirs in Australia, might insist on keeping both
days and having two Christraas-dinoers. In some
Siberian town, straggling over both sides of long.
180**, there might even be four Christmas-days,
for the Russians, retaining the old style in their
calendar, would have first an Eastern, and then
a Western Christmas side by side, 12 days after
any foreigners in the place who were so disposed
had similarly kept their own double festival.
I confess myself unable to give R. E. A. the
cosmopolitan (cosniical I) or absolute reply he asks
for, and fear that from that point of view his
c^uestion is, as Speriend says, incapable of solu-
tion. R. M M.
SnROPsniRE Wills C5^ S. ii. 328), in 1824,
were to be found in four dioceses. I note all the
following Registries there at that date, though
some of them are apparently, and probably, irre-
levant : —
J. Diocese of 8t Asaph (containing a small part of
Sbropsbire),
Registry at Hawarden, Flintshire.
The Bishop's Con8i8toi7 Court. (Query. At St Asaph
or at Hawarden 1)
The Registry of the Arobdeaeoii of St Anph. (Pro-
bably united to that of the Oontiaiory Court)
No Peeuliara in this Diocese.
II. Diocese of Coventry and Lichfield (containing
nearly half of Shropshire).
The Bishop's Begistrv at Lichfield.
The Registry of the Prebendal Jurisdiction of Alrewas
(Staffordshire), at Lichfield.
The Registries (if any) of the Arohdeaoonries of Staf-
ford, Derby, Coventry, and Shrew^mry,
Peculiars in Shropshire.
Parithes. Jmrisdiction.
Albrighton "^
i^tv 1 Royal Peculiar of St Maiy,
^We"\ ::::::} inShrewsbuiy. "^
Salop, St. Mary ... .J *
Alvelly S
Borington (Royal Peculiar of Bridge*
Bridgenorth T north.
Claveriey J
Buildas Lord of the Manor.
S**^f^*" ) Prebendary of Prees, and
WhUali: : : : : : ;( Dean and chapter.
Longdon Donative. Lord of Manor
appoints Registrar.
Uppington Donative.
Wombridge Lord of Manor appoints Re-
gistrar.
III. Diocese of Hereford (containing the greater pari
of Shropshire).
The Bishop's Registry at Hereford.
The Registry of the Deanery of Hereford, at Hereford.
The Registries (it is presumed) of the Archdeaconries
of Hereford and Salop.
Peculiars in Shropshire.
Parishes. Jurisdiction.
Ashford Carbonel . . . The Perpetual Curate.
Moreton Magna .... The Rector.
(Little Hereford] . . . The Vicar.)
Upper BuIIinghope (or
fiullingham ?).... The Perpetual Curate.
IV. Diocese of Worcester (containing one parish in
Shropshire).
The Bishop's Registry at Worcester.
The Registry (if any) of the Archdeacon of Worcester,
for places in his jurisdiction.
See Sir N. H. Nicolas's Notitia BUtarica^ pub-
lished 1824 ; the First Report of the Select Cm-
mitt ee on tJie State of the Public Records ; and the
Valor Ecclesiasticus, John W. Bone, F.S.A.
Since sending the above to "N. & Q.," I
have been informed from Shropshire that "all
Shropshire wills proved before tne establishment
of the District Registries are now at the District
Registry at Shrewsbury." J. W. B.
" La parole a jSt^ donn^e a l'homme pour
l'aider a cacher sa pens^b " (5**» S. ii. 306.)—
Talleyrand or Count Montrond^ which is the
author ? Like Mr. Ward, I had always rapposed
Talleyrand the author of this well-known saying ;
ff» S. II Dio. 12, 7<.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
475"
I
whi ''' iln Gronow, in his i* " ' ^.i* anti
^h fod series (Smith, 1' , Lon-
don, i-'O-j^.i^^erts positively that tai- iuuvc aaying
15 Montruatl'fl, not Talleyrand's, A propos ol: the
mnt, he La siiid to have been *' the most tijfreeable
idrel and tho greatest reprohate in Friinae."
was an invetcmtc gambler, and mrely lost**
TVhen very young, at the Court of Miirie Antoi-
nette, a certiiin Monsieur de Ch[impagnt>, an otlicer
ot the CiuEinU, who was playing at cai'd* with hif0,
said, ** Monsieur, vous trichez*" Montrond ;tn-
siwcitd, with the greatest 9aih(f'froid^ " C'eist pos-
sible ; rnaLs je nVime pas qu*on iiw le dise^" and
threw the cards in Charapagne*a face. Montrond
u aakid to have been one of the wittiest men of the
age. His death was a yery wrekhed one.
Can tiny of your reiitiera disprove Captain Gro-
no'^' nil
1 tnd on th© «^uthority of Br, Brewer,
in J liiLL.^i nitd Fabli^ that the snyiog is Fonte-
nelle's. Can your correspondent* point out the
passage, if the saying t>e \m I I uiean no dljre-
iipe^t to Dr. Bix*wer. Fhedk. Rulk.
•• JoHK JAspER*a Secret " (5*^ S. ii. 4H7.)— This
j tnuihy affair was WTitten, and first published, in
I America* The author was probably some hack-
I writer. T fancy I could discover his name, if
[JaS££ thinks it worth knovviog. The scribbler
[liiu! not sense enough to read the intended course
the story from the deeigna on the cover ^ and
L<?ould not even [>ereeive that Mr. Dat<'hery was
tiDrood in disguiBe.
^^ MoRTJMER Collins.
Efml HitI, Berkj,
** SLrrOAX '' : ** Km.riE '*:'' OLEJnJLLIN *' (5«> S.
tii 287.) — Slomn^ pronouncetl dowgauy a war- cry,
lis from tit*' Gaelic tduntjh (a multitude, a host, an
Innt' ' 1 tc ca« (ci^dl, name). Tlie same
I me I the Lowland'Scotch sln^hamie
hind I tliiagk and com (a horn), and
^to I ! -ghairm (gttirm^ a cry), *^luagh
L progeny) and to the
1. From luclid is the
Jj.i;in i<irii. rnun inn. jk iiie Latin C^nO.
Kflju^, The idea was that the Spirit of the
IWftters appeared sometime-s as a man, and aome-
I times a* a hor*e. Talcing the latter view, the
If Jf^.uMr ' rrvninlnrv ;»; nft'ered for the conKidemtion
may be from the Garlu:
. i ahh (water). Pronounced
[luickly, MpuiUabh (water-horse) might easily be
* Hyron, in />o» Juan^ C. xiil. 8(t, is Auppo«ed to alliide
|o him a« tbe —
" J■^.^M t . Kr vuii^r de 1a Rubc,
< I 'it tu waft here,
rtie*.'*
corrupted to hdpk. It is a little curious that
originally capull meant a hor^, and that in modem
times its meaning is restricted to mare. From
capull comes the Greek hahnUos, and the Liitin
Ciibalhi-s, From abh comes the Lntin AppiHH, The
aqueduct near Rome, called Appia Aqna, h an
instance of repetition ; both wir/Is mean water,
Aqitais from aig^ in the < I nn (sea) and
aicfeal (the deep). The ^ built while
Appiit>« Clandiu!^ wm censor was nut named after
hiHi ; he was named after the aqueduct. His
name at first was Atta Clausas.
Oknnllin, I have looked in several work^, and
cannot find such a place. With such numbers of
well-sounding names around bim, it is a great pity
that the poet Campbell rlid not emVcKly a real
name in the rich setting of his verse.
TnOMAS StRATTON.
May not do^am l>e a corruption of iluagli-gaimi)
a Gaelic compound, signifying the war-ctj, or
signal tor battle, among the riigbland clans / Its
relations I think may aUo be found in Goth, althin^
Ban. Blimet\ JSax. slagan, sl^gati^ Ger. Schlageny
Eng. fiJay^ skwj all meaning to strike, to destroy,
to kill. F. I).
Nottingham.
"Thk Kkw State or England ** (5* S. iL
429.)— The first edition of thi^ book was only
signetl G. M.; all the subrfequent one^* beiu* the
name of Guy Micge in fulL The tbinl edition,
published in 1699, is dedicatjfd to the Lonl Chan-
cellor Somens ; and having stated that it is greatly
improved, the author oonchides, *' so I hope my
Lord you will the more readily countenance it lind
become a Mtecenas to— Your Loni^hip's most
humble servant, Guy Mtege." Probably this did
not lead to much, for the fourth edition, in 1701,
is dedicated to the Lord Howiird of ElbDgbam.
According to Lowndes, Miege published A
rHctionanf of Barbarous French, Jjond., KJ79;
The Great French DicUonartj, Lond., 1688; Zk^
light and Fatiinu, a Pleasant Diversion for both
Sexes, Loud., 1697; Th9 New State of England,
Lond,, 12mo. 1691 and 1692, 8vo. 1699 and 1701.
In the greAt disputes about til' of Con-
vocation at this time, Miege disj of the
writers, who violently opjKiHcd tn* .w,r i^tate"
and consequently greatly increased its sale. In the
fourth edition Miege refers to this, and says, he
le^'ives the ^^ captious convoc^tioit. nmn" to his
lejirned adversary Dr. Wake, who wdl doubtleis
ere long make a •' Fault nj ColUdiyr " of him.
Lowndes adds, that Mtege publi>ihed several
other workn, chiefly olcmentar^'. It seems pro-
buble tbfit lie wrote the Earl ot Carlisle's Thrtt
E(i\hnxnn^ Lond.. 8vo. 1669, the dedication to
which is signed G. ^L, and is Ytrj much in the
style of Guy Miege. En ward 8oLLr.
476
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*S. II.DEal2,V4.
same infortuation about G, if., who Qccourpauied
the Earl of Carlteb on his ciubnssies to KtiBsiu,
Sweden, and Denmark, in 1663-4, ftnd wrote A
Belalum of th^ Embasmx. A Mr, Marvel went
aa seo^tury with Lord Oarlble, but I am under
thu impre&tion that he is i^ud to have beeQ Andrew
MarveL EALi*n N, Jambs,
Aihf^tdf Kent.
The RorAL Veto (5^ S. H, 426.)— In the
m&Bs^ nofeited to by Lord Ltt^elton, Sir J,
Bo wring 3ay», " Eentham always attributed the.
Veto he (Geori^e II L) put upon the Panopticon
Bill, ct/5ter it hcS, ^OMtd ooHi^ Houui of Fa/rlianunt,
to TindictJTe feelings," &c.
This is v&Tf inaccurate, aa Lord Ltttieltok
nglitly conjectures ; for the Bill alluded to, which
waa one for erecting a Penitentiary, so far from
being vetoed, received the Eoyal Assent, and
became the Statute 52 Geo, IIL cap, 44 ; nor
waa any BiU of that kind vetoed by Geoi^e III,,
as is proved by the Index to the Lords* Joumals^
|>, 7(Mj tit, ** Penitentiary Houaes/' What Bow-
fing really refers to i^ this : Bentham'^ scheme for
a Panopticon Penitentiary, whieh was a sort of
huge round iron cage for prieoners, glazed ao as to
keep them always under the eyes of the officials,
wm rejected, while the Bill for the above Act was
in Committee in the House of Commons, for very
Bubatantial reasons, as would appear by tbetr Re-
port (Hansard, PhtL D^h.^ vol. xx. App. pp, cii-
cvi, and vol xxii. pp, 101-103) ; and a different
^lau was adopted by the Statute in question, after
Bentham's proposal had received a prospeetive
sanction by the previoui^ Act of 34 Geo, III* cap.
64, and after lie nt ha in had e^cpended a consider-
able sum of money in preparing to carry it out, for
which reason he wtis secured compensation by the
4th section of the Act of hi Geo, III., which
ex phiina 1 1 le vv hoi e u ui tt et. (See Bon tham s Worh,
vol xi, pp, lOi^'lOB.)
The hijjt instance of the eitercise of the Royal
Veto, on a BiU which L-id piissed both Houses of
Parliament, w^is in 17(»7, when Queen Anue de-
clined to aiscnt to a Scotch Militia BiU, giving her
negative iu the ancient form, " La Heine Be avisera"
(Lards* Journals, vol. xvLiL p. 6ltC ; Sir T. Erskine
May, Law of Farllaitwn f , p. 532, 7 th ed,). Charles
II., Williaiu and Mary, and William III., exercised
this prero^r;Uive several times, (Index to Lords'
Journals, p. £97,) JosETii Brown.
Temple*
man's Homer, informs mc that he has a distinct
recollection of Mitford telling him, about two jeiis
or so before he died (which was on April S^^lSSd),
that the original waa then mining from Hsitk-
bury. If the copy sold at Mitfotd^s iaie is to be
found in the Catalogue* of the second poison ef
Ma Librmry, Ko. 1874, and U there described is
the copy with Pope's autograph notet, stiefa de-
scription would seem to he erroneoiu, for the
Bodleian transcript, in addition to Mitford*s auto-
graph, bears that number on an auctioii ticket I
have no absolute proof ; but upon iDquiry, it ippeus
that Mitford did write the article in the mnlh-
man's Ma^anmf for 18^, aUuded to by Hi.
Boyle. W. H. Ai-LinrrT,
Bodleian Library,
Cardan Wells in SooTtAJfD (5*^ B, L 376.)—
There is one in the pariah of FordooOf Kbcsf-
dineBhire (rith above reference), and another at
MelvUle House, Fifeshire (t^ Pennant^a I\mr ta
tSeaiUndj I/ondon, 1790, pt, il p. 188). A Hate
of other examples would be usefiiL
J. Mjjru£L,
Ne wcastle-upaa* Tyni.
Spiritual ArrABif ioks (6'* S- U 38L)— Some
years ago I delivered a lecture in eereral Tictorisa
towns, entitled ^* A Plea for Ohosta.'^ I read up s
good deal on th« subject of spiritual apparitioD^
silted and weighed the evidence on both sidet,
and listened to many ghost stories voluntarily told
me by auditors at the lecturer. The conclmsioDB
I reached were preeisely the same as those stated
by Ma. J, B, Haig, and the ** brain- wave *' ihe^ij
appears to me to offer the best explanation of tht
spirit appearances. As to spiritnalkm, all mj
inquiries led me to heUeve that it is a compouud
of credulity and imposture, with a very snuU
residuum of psychological mystery, D. Blatb*
Melbourae.
" Child Roland to the dark tower cmi"
{5^^ S. H. 32Q.)— This is simply a quotation hm
BOiue lost ballad. Capell plausibly identtfi»
Roland with Orlando, and, Inserting a Une, would
make one whole of the quartet. This pat'ching
into sense, however, seema to me unnecea^iij'
"Fie, foh, and fuui," &c., cornea from aBotbk
quarter. The stringing together of such disjointtd
snatchefi is quite in Edgar's manner, under his
asijumed madness, Joni? Anniik
Tickell's Homer with Pope's MS. Notes
(5** S. ii. 3H90--The copy of TickelFs Homer, con-
taining Isiwic Reeira transcript of Pope's MS,
notes, is to be found in the Bodleian Library. It
also contains an autograph letter from J. Nichols,
dated Jan. 9, 1784, requesting Reed to sell to
Bishop Hurd the copy with Pope^a own notes. .
The Eev, E. floopeTj the learned ed\tot Qt Ci>m'^\
C'f, ^lalonc^s BhnJiifjieariy vol x, pp. 166-1^7j
Reed's Skakfipmrij vol. xviL p. 472 ; C Knijgkt'R
libraty editioD, vol, ix, p* 91 ; Percy's E^liqut* o/
AniiejU Foetiy, vol Ui, p, 94,
WiLLLui Plait.
ConoervfttiTO €lub«
«l^Qt\0L the Bodleian,
* 8. IL Dbc, 12, IL]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
477
Lord PEMnnoKK*s Will (5'^ 8. li, .'*32.)— It
mid he dcsirnbh^ llmt^ as this document has been
placed in these pftgep, some opinion or evidence
bould be jrtvdo tui to its authorship, I presume
hat no < ' 'rietJ that it was really written
by Lc>H 1 . or regnrds it otherwi.se than
t the metj> rnu Mou of some witty writer of the
time of CrorawcH, Roger L'Ehtrange claimed it
"Sutler, and inserted it in Butlers Fix^thumous
p$f in 1715 ; but no one believed that it was
kr\ A far more probable author was Sir
on, Bart., the royal astrologer and
m , who was for some time a prisoner
PltTIV"indaor Castle* A, Wood says of lilio, Aiken,
^ Fi., ii. 509 :—
*♦ The first md sccorni pwta of Th^ Latt Wilt and
fTt*t. t'f Phitip, Marl of PemtyroJte, ke., pn ltJ49. <^u.,
fl * v^r Oeorge W/tarton was tLc ftutlior of ihcm I
♦ . . be wft3 ft til 10 paced rojallist, a boon
1, ft iritty dryll, atid u waggish poet'*
The Earl of Pembroke wjuh Constable of Windsor
\4>tTo in Hj48. The second part, or codicil, shows
! in stUl Titarer death, shouting murder
l1 fiJ then finding that the cau«© of his
error wuis only a cat ! Edwakd Solly,
Sutton, Surrfjr.
The Little Suhker (5*^ S. il 381) is known
lS* ^^-^ ^**^* Gn^jUiigd^ and Gmjhn^d
*"* 'uuia. At any nite, Dyitd Gwyleufel
Day. But whether Engel is a cor*
uption of .Vi/j<rMj^t7:=^ Michael, or of Engffl^=:^
ia^I ain uut prtjjiired toauy* Ou>y/ = holiday»
^eo ftorue int^^resting remarks on words
to Gwyl, e.*j,, Yuh/Hiid^ uAcW, ro/ro,
t an article on *' The Pmying Machine " in Good
^or(U, 1867, p. 846, T, C. Uknone*
SlMPfiiow & Co. (5«» S. i- 49, 114, 197j 333 ; ii.
' "ine across a not€», which I took
h t vol. of " Lords' Entries ' in
' 'liivts vs iiu ii Hocms to contradict the ** rule
ddrj^" as s^tated by R P., ** that a cotit of
i f' ' ' "^^ ' vi^>6ted in the blood dr ■- ^ '^
r/* In vol xii. of 1 1
in if -« I nee of the ;..,. j» ,l,, ij
led estate, and the
that the devisee of
rij^'iit to the arms quartered by his prc-
PiirHUunt to an order of the Iriish House
1», Hcniy, frauth Viscount Loft us (created
jiUtda KiH of K!v\ in 1 7 61>, entered in Ulster
nd his wife Frances,
I mro ; and hia arms
ih.Urifcjitc'd thus; — 1, Loftu* :
'DO ; 4. Pol wart ; 5. Sinclnire ;
.Another coat) ; s. Pepdie ;
I ; — all impaiinir the anus
Inn in, ^ ij-ruiijir JioftU."* '
«d of I, 7, 2» 6\ in t\
nnic^, 3,4,5,6^9,10,^,
iv I in; ;irun in
Gustavtis Hnme, Bart,, who^e elder daughter and
co-heir, M:iry Hume, married Niohokis, second
Viscount Loftus, and first Earl of Ely, by whom
she? hud an only child, Nicholas, second Earl of
Ely, who 4 in 17ti9, died unmarried, having devised
hie landed property, inclnding^ that portion in-
herited tlirough hia mother, to his uncle Henry,
who succeeded him in the Viscounty, but who was
not in any way related by blood to the Hume
family. 'FhiB was a remarkable instance of the
ie^aJ assumption of arms by a person in no way
relate*! tu the ori^'inal owner, and I remember being
very much surprised whtn I found it ; but there it
remain.^ on record^ the shield with the various
qunrtcrings duly depict^, and with the Viscount's
j^ignature underneath. Y. S. M.
Double CimrsTiA^' Names {fj'^ S. ii. 226, 271,
21)4, 316.) — ^I think an earlier instance of the use
of two names, either Christiaii or ttarmimie, nmy be
quoted, as follows :—
** Benuchamp, of Eaton, Co. Bedf.
"John, Roger do Beauchnmpj, oh n'rcnt 1217 s.pf
'* Hen, III. John de Beauchamp, nepk. and h., being
eon of William Fits Geoffrey do Bcauclmmp, by Matilda,
■let. and h. of tb« Itkst baron."— Court bope*d HUtvric
Peij'ttae of Ewdandf p. 47.
D. C. B.
The Crescent, Bedford.
The will of James Maiy Gardiner, of Brialy, in
Norfulk» dated let September, 1639, was proved
3nth October following in the Bishop's Court of
Norwich.
In a pedi|?ree of Smyth| of Penshurst, Sussex,
presumed aneeators of a family of that name seated
at Buckburv, Norfolk, occur the names of Edward
Warrcnne J^myth, o^. 1458, and Bymon Clifford
Smyth, ok 1637. G. A- Op
** TAPftALTEERld '* (6*'* S. i»,
I ly men
'' T0P8T-TrRVT "
288, 334.)—
« An* warl I
May a k
Jamie*on, ma\ ** Tnpsie-teerie," explains dipHiUt^ru
as ** tops-all- twervej,'* heads fill the wr..ii./ «:iv,
from the Dnnish tu-^r, iicross. Ajs, ho v
in tofixif-turvy is ** to'erway,," probablv m
fnpmlUcrU is ** »11 1' ithcr way. '
I now come to the tij in fop*]/, and the < in
taps. Mr. Earle {rhilvUyjit, i>. 432) tells us
" thiit itpsidc'doitm is an advero, that has been
altered ny a false light from vp^so-down^ on as
Wiclif has it^vp-fe down, wherem to Is the old
relative ; the expression is eiiui^-alent lo up-what*
down** He then cfle^ a psihAfttr»> from Hampole,
In which the
If Kidt\ in
" w hit;h,'' ^1/ in ^oi'su-ni.,
he the same word no. 'I
will ibt^n be " i^\,\i&l Vuv-
478
NOTES AND QUEMEa
lBf^S.U.J>EC.U,1L
ihe oiber wny/' and lapsaHeerie will mean tlie
sam« with "all" inserted. Agsiln, tbe wp^y^itny of
Eolmrt Greeiie, which I have cited/ p. 288, will
mean ** that being up which (was) t* other waj/'
By thifl meatii wc get rid of the words topndt and
vpiide, which are found in no other eonnexioti,
and are Aelf-controdicloiy,
It has been pointed out, sup.^ p. 3!^, that Spenser
ufies the word tymdi^'Uirvy ; but S|>enBei'*s uutho-
ritj, on aueh points, has no great weight.
F. J* y,
<* Be tounicth all tli^Tige ffl;jrV'/efT|f/'
J2rif« ]n« and £e noC irno^Ai, Arbar, p« £1-
jlrii^-rcr*ie is nnother fonu: —
*' It 11 not figlitinii uriile-wriffV/'
(6e« Bolin's liudi&r^, p. 112.}
Jo 11 If Addis* -
* Wb ih»ll o'ertum it toiujf-iurrjf down."
Mfnry Il\ Finfe Part, act i?, ic. 1, L 82.
''^ Whose weii^lit o'ertumed the ^hip ;
IVhicli tof'sif-tm'v^ BiiikiDc^ downe did ket'pe
TLe Sajler* under water. '
M^fs trftnflationj Lut&n'a Phanalut
(2tid Edition, 16^1), book iii.
T, Ma CO RATH.
In Bodleian IVI3. Eawl. Poet* 25 ^which is dated
1694-5, and is a copy of a MS. written not later
than 1586), on the reverse of sign. E 7, eleTentb
line, I find the plimse " topiide-torfway," which, I
Buppow, was the original of to}}mf-turt}f. Further
evidence will be ficceptable.
Fred, W. Fdstebl
Oxf«*rd.
Clwk- Striking (b^^ B. ii. 2G8, 43^)— Why
need the Uamburg clock be '' sadly out of order "
if, at a (:itiiirter-|>EL3t aix^ its hour bell strikes seven
(an hour which, prjre Dr. Djxos% has "arrived")?
In Holland the public clocks eommonly strike the
hour at the half-hour— seven, (.r. fjr., k half-piiat
sii— as well as at the completed hour. This is so
Ttry convenient an arranf^eiuent in villrrges and
small towns, donbling, as it well nigh does, the
clock's usefulness, that I wonder it h&s not been
adopted in England. At the thirty minutes past,
the Jialf'S pent hour is announced by u high-pitched
belli and the strokes aro rapid ; so that, even where
there is no preliminary chime, no " uncertain
sound " h given. Henry Attwell.
Barnes.
" BoKii " (5"» S. i. 389 ; li. 53.)— The word is
probably derived from kibosh or hjhoaAhf vix., cui
hoiio f Our Melbourne thieves, gentlemen who
have I'licrished the secret slang of their renowned
ancciilnrs, term the vnu^juii*bment of an enemy
"putting the kyboHh on hitu," putting the ak
bono f on him — making him admit that to struggle
longer would be for no one "a J>enefit,
Marcus Clark e*
The FuMk Library, Melbourne*
Tnfi IktAERlAOB OF Ti *.DR1ATIC AHD THl
DooE ar Venice (5*^ S. iL /, 454.)— Will Mb.
Gauss ERDK be ao obliging as ^o give his aadioritj
for saying ^Mt la t^uite true that the ring wis
recovered after the wedding " ?
Ralph N. Jaiob.
Aihford, Kent.
Ermine Street {^^ S. iL 348, 415.)— Ml
Taylor (Wm-ds and Places, p. 167, 1873) exnbiv
Ermin Street as "paupers* road." In replj to
Hermektruqe, I would say that 0. H. G. Irmnud
means " the pillar of Arminius." Arminius is the
Latinized form of Germ. Hermann (cp. IceL Htr
madr^ a warrior), A. L. Mathew.
Oxford,
Edward Maria Winqfield (5*"* S. L 488 ; iL
73, 237.)— The name Maria seems to have been
adopted in the Wingfield family from the Princee
Mary, daughter of Henry YIII. At least, Davy
(Suff. Coll., " Wingfield of Kimbolton'') says that
Sir Thomas Maria Wingfield, Knt., a younger son
of Sir Bicbard Wingfield, K.G., by his second
wife, Bridget, daughter ;md heir of Sir John Wilt-
shire, had "Q. Mary [for] his godmother." The
name was afterwards borne by several males in
succeeding generationa of this family (Davy, as
above ; ped. in Gough's Sepulchral ifonumenU).
Female Chriitian names, as. given to men, are
found in two other eminent families. William
AniiA (Capel), fourth Earl of Essex, possibly de-
rived from our moat dread sovereign, as it is stated
of Lord A^tu Hamilton, who was " so called after
bis godmother, Queen Anne," being third son of
James, fourth Duke of Hamilton, and first Duke
of Brandon (Burke's F^t^rage, &c.).
John A. C. Vixcest.
C. J. Fox's Deaf and Dumb Son (5* S. ii.
£32, 415.) — la there anything contemporaneons
to show who was the Mr. Stone (at HacKney)who
entertained Samuel Rogers and the distingubhed
company named by that poet ? Where wa?
"Bniidwood*s Academy" situated, at which it
would appear Fox'i natural son was brought up i
W. Phillips.
James Sayers, the Caricaturist (5"* S. iL
281, 38 2.) --Mr. OLrnAR Hamst is mistaken in
supposing the portrait referred to by him in
*'N. k Q." to be that of Dr. WiUain. By a
portrait of Capt. Coram, by Hogarth, in my pos-
geasion, I identify it as that of the jolly Captain's;
tbe features, to meet the occasion, rendered more
stem than in the original. In All th€ TalefUs
GaTl4i7idj 18(J7, tbe editor, speaking of Elijak'i
Mantkj says that it and The Uti Poiidetit and
Staiut Qtto were both written by James Sajer,
Esq. ; so this \mt will have to be added to 0. EJi
Uftt qC his works.
AG.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
479
CSAXCELS PlACKD WESTWARD (5"» S. U. 288,
352),^CiviLi3 i^ of course, cognizant of the
I notion — ixnd it IB sure to Lave been discussed in
I •* N. & Q." — ^that the orientation of churches is
\ decirled by where the ffun rises on the saint*** day
• tu which tJt»* church is dedicated. Thnt is said
Ki Vmn the theory, though in pmctice it is nought,
if '*ch;incel»-ani/' jind not '* eastward," is the
uoFBhippinj^ position, the matter becomes per-
plexing, and gives some colour to a remark I once
lfd« that **lhe thing is to f«m, sonjehow and
B^whert*," as is evidenced in schoolroom chapek
under difficulties, &c. I hope I do not transgress
Uic limits of the question. I '^'d not mean to do
2, B. J.
^ticcHiiiUdUi.
KOTES ON BOOKS, kc,
^'hff and other Mctnoriah of Mrs, Gil-
rhj Ann Taylor), With Portraits
lion- Edited by Jo^^iah Gilliert,
x Co.)
I " is tt phnise which once
BndtMi pi*?iLsantiy m every English home ; and it
■ not yet loi^t its pleasantness. Every membei
Fof the Taylor family turned literature to excellent
I account. Their children inherited the taste and
the power from their father, Isaac Taylor, the
> eminent Hne-engrsiveT and Independent Minister.
HijJ daughters, Jane and Ann, in their early verses
Attuned infant minds to human affectioufi, and
[ their brother, Isafic Taylor, addrc3se<l himself to
the maturer minds of deeply-thinkiDg men. He
won A distluguiahed place as a leader of such men,
by numerous able works. Amonff them ma}" h^
^^ j^ M , , . ) ^ , i ^ pfi fjffical Tk eory of Another L i/c,
Xo hgy^hh Rtstmation of Bdiefy and,
r*. 1 , u- all J his Natural Hutonj of Etithu-
work for Men by, emphatically, a Man.
vice ijcnsions are conatantly granted with-
out the leu£t consideration to fitness ; but that of
100^,, granted to Isaac Taylor, waa truly described
a& being *Mn public ricknowledgment of nia eminent
s^rrit^'^ to society, es^pecially in the depjirtments of
liU I philoHophy, during a period of more
tha : •■ I re." The old spirit impels other mem-
bers oi Uie ijmily. The son of the bxi^t-named gen-
tleman, tbe Rev, Isaac Taylor, Vicir of Holy Trinity,
T«»'icki:iiham, has added a book permanently to
literature, in hiis Wordi and Placa, which containj^
T * ^ ,. .1 ilhxBtrations of History, Ethnology,
ly; and Ann Taylor'i* (Mrs. Gil-
..., ,s well known and esteemed by his
the Dolomite Mountains^book writteD,
inntulnr^. ^■> to nnriik, discovered by him, in
hiU. Mr. Gilbert huB
^ N-ra to the history of
m ki3 Cad&r^; or, Tfiut»> Coufitry; and in
the work before ua he has contributed two charm-
ing volume^s to that most pleasant of all the de-
partments of literature — biography.
^Ir. Gilbert has done wisely and boldly. In
other wordff, he has succeeded in a courageoas
attempt to photograph a life* His mother*8, in her
interesting Autobiography, and in hiij own illus-
tr.it ions, in described as it truly was. A modest
English home of the last and present century ia
kid thoroughly open, with all its hopes and dis-
appointments, joys and sorrows, struggles and
triumphs. The subject has quaint and picturesque
surroundings. It reveals to us a remarkable old
English family; and every page is marked by Ann
Taylor's tenderness of feeling or playful humour,
or the shrewd sense with which she handled all
topiiTS, from the daily affairs of a household to the
public questions of her time ; and, it may be added,
the depth and rtality of her piety, which was quite
in unison with a merriness of heart which made
her presence in a room as welcome as sunshine.
Her Autobiogmphy is an exquisite domestic nar-
nitive. It fully justities Mr. Gilbert's e^urying
out to the end liis picture of family life, in wbich
the incidents of the common lot, told with the art*
lesa reality and pathos of her letters, must interest
a very l;irge circle of readers who have S3''mpathctic
and liberal natures. In the second volume, es-
pecially, there is curious evidence how the Inde-
pendent mother-wit diatiDguiBhed itself in the
treatment of such subjects as Free Trade, Dta-
establishment, the Atheistical Argument, Broad
Church Preachings and Pjdncation by the Stite.
The book will, no doubt, be a *' standard book **
in biographical literature.
Alphabetical Dictionary of CoaU of Arms he^
longing to Families m Great Britain and Xrt'
land, forming an Ej-tcnsirc Ordinary of British
A rtn oriole: upon an entirely New Plan, in
which the Arms are Systematically subdivided
thi»ughout, and so Arranged in Alphabetical
Order, that the Names of Families whose Shields
are found on Buildings, Monument**, Seals,
Paintmgs, Plate, &c., whether Medieval or
Modern, can be readily ascertained. By the
late John W. Papworth, F,R.LB.A. Edited
from p. 696 by Alfred W. Momnt, F.S. A,,
F.aS. Parts XX I L, XXIIL, Introduction,
&g. (Issued to Subacrlbers by Wyatt Pap worth,
33, Bloomsbur}^ Street, W.C")
We are glad to announce the completion of this
very useful book, which, commenced under great
disiiflvautages, carried on under many difficulties,
has at length been brought to a most auitisfactory
conclusion* The object of the work before us
may be prettjr clearly gathered from tlu^ nmple
title-page, which we have advisedly 1 1 tit
full length. The value of such a 1 ' as
this to professed students of genealogy and bend*
480
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5^&ILDM.l%7i.
dry ii I^k; obyloiiJi to need itniiting on» But its
Utility IB no I«as positive to another and much
more nuineroas body of renders. How manjr well-
informed persons there are to vhoui, ulbeit they
themselves ''may giro the do^n white luces in
their coatj^' the btozons of Garter are i\s much
matters of mystery oa the hieroglyphics of Egypt,
who often desire to know to whom the quartcrings
on some old family picture or piece of plate have
belonged — wiiose aro the arms graven on some old
monument, or figuring in some painted window,
or stamped on the moroeeo sides of some quaint
old volume. The book before us is the "Open
Sesame I ^ to thb kind of information, if those
who tiy to use it will attend to the brief hints
contained in the Introduction. H^irmg thui
shown that the book may be used with advantage
by both the grei*t cln^sses into which the reading
world is divided^ namely, those who are heralds
and those who are notj we feel justified in declaring
that the OnUnary of Bniiith A nnoriah ought to
be placed on the Selves of every library, public
or private, which aims at completeness in that
moat important diviiion of such library — the Booi-jf
of Jii'fi.rencc.
A Booh A ho it t the Tahh, By iJohn Cordy Jeaffre-
8011- 2 vols, (Hurst & BZaekett.)
Here are two savoury, buceulent, delicious, and
eaaily digested Tolumep, which require no further
description than what is conveyed in their brief but
significant title, and in the adjectives ju^t applied
to the volumes themselves. The work, moreover,
appears seasonably. Cooks, cookery, and the
t4ible generiilly^ would not be Imlf ho welcfuue in
the dog-days sin at this wintry holiduj-tide, ^Ir.
Jeafifreson ranges through every department of bi^
subject. Going with him is something like b^ing
. guided throiic^b every iiiistronomical experience in
the land of coiiki'i'y*]7'(r e.f^elhjtc^^ from the uiosit
magnificent Amphitryon's table to the ^Msibon
Petieau, where I hey advertise "Diners a 1 Fr.
1 Potage, 1' Plat ile Viamle, I Plat de Lt^giimc!*, 1
Dessert, 1 Carafon et Pain," adding " d 1 Fr* Stl
on a la demi-boiiteille.*' Of a book that has anec-
dotal ilhistnitiona on every page, we have not space
to say more than record the fact, which in itself is
the very best of recon mien da t ions. To Tuiny of
our readers the ch!ii>ter on the Folk- Lore of
Feeding will, no <loubt^ prove attractive ; and
there are some other chapters from which we may
make :ipt extract for the column.^ of " N. k Q.'* at
a future time. ^Icanwhile the name of the author
will be sufficient warrjmt for the excellent quality
of ^ Book About the Tahk.
AnciiaoLOCiCAl. TiESTiTUTR.— Z>«. 4.— ^f^. Oqtariufl
Murgftn in the chair.— Th* Chftirmiiii read *' Obaomi-
tiODB 411 the Claftifieation nnd Arrangement of a Col-
lection of Wfttche^/* wfaieh he illa^trriteil bj Bome choioe
■|>eclmea*. A^o(«i on " Lich&etd CathednJ^ ift«r the
Siege of 1643/' by John Hewitt, w«re re»iL Hr. Tre-
gellaa brought k pair of eitgmTed itirer thoa-liMU. uid
H pftteh-box; Mr* 8. Tucker (Rouge Crolx}i "Dtffifl
Tucker'* Shoe'*; Mr< Soden Stiiith, floine «niileti wmi
ringf of the Celtic period^ and a Komaa rin^; }&;
Kightiagalet a Jiftec nth- century golil rii^g : Mr, Selbf,,
a Tery eni&lL Psalm Book with ueedle-work coTer^ todi
knife, part brut? j^ud part ete^lf probablj Sc&iiiiinmVBii ;
Mri. Kcer, pfaotograpbfl of an EbmiCMi tomb^ and olgecti
ftt Pompeii ; Mr. Page, iome wat0li««.
SHAESFKiBlAir LrFEEATUHE. — MettTt. JCOlidisii k
GilT, of Dublin, hftve jtift ready a pftoaphlet, the ol^iect ef '
which h to prore that tho ohKraoter of Wobey^ not ioti
tb« moutb of Qrifllth In Mtnnf VllLt ie ecwu
vcrhaiimt as ue&rly as blank Tcrie can wefl
prose, from Caniplou'e Hiti^^ qf Irdand^ written vbn
Shukfp^are wta a boj.
Oda eftcensed correqwndent, J. T, F.^ in refereDce to
" The Pamblo of tbe One Only Kid " (5"' S. it. 43i, iM^
direct* attention to !iid necount of a Jewifli pasiofff
diflhy in whbb tbi« parable U described a^ rcpraioited
in a aeries of m^daUioiiB in '* N. k Q.,'' 5'^ a t 4261 Tb«
numberii^ of the etibjeotg in p. 427, col. 1, is wrgog ; it
should be 1 to 13. Bee also a communieatloti by £ M.
DflAcn, p. 493.
" EULOOT 0^ WoKEH ** (5"* i, u. 433,)— H, B* M. »JI
thi^t the attthor of tbe eulogy ii Mr. OlemaHi, <^B»t-
ford. Conn. (" Mark Tvaio "). The remarki Wir% vmk
at an editorial dub meeting at >7a«hingtoa loma ttt
jean eiiice.
J. C. J. (and other Carrespotid^nti) irill oblige %
writing their comrounicattoni on only one iide 0/ tk
V. C. Q. sbouM nppl^ t^ the editor of the jourciat M
i^Tcb the story appeared. He would, donbtteei, receiTf
a Mitiiifactory repfj.
W. 11. K. B. liaJ onlj to npply to the pabtifhcfi hj
whom the n;vme« of the chief contributon hate been
aniiouTict^d.
E, A, — Xuna Sahib wat in Hlnj^land only in the peitoa
of It if rfproseiitatiter Ailm-oolah Khan, in 1S53.
R, F. IL H referred to our last toL p. 240^ where a
reply will he found,
C< C* — The epitaph Iiilq been printed hondndl of
timet.
N>~ Apply to the chess cdUor of the /^/iMlrof^tf l>«a*
don iVc'ir^.
Jk L. — See Eruoft*! Al^fumta and Baker'H Irmtnlit
for infltancps,
Q, II. S— Tlujy are " nearly ready** for pubUcatiffliL
LrnuT.-CoL. Ffinuussosf-— Neit week.
Wqulw* — There is no sueh society^
KOTSCK
Editoria] Coniinunicattoni should be addnrated i& * Tki
Editor" — AdvertiMmenti and BoMueu Letterfl to '*Tbt
Publisher "—at the Office, 20, WeUinglon Strict, Stiaol,
J-rfjndon, W.C,
We beg leare to state thnt we deoline to return eora-
munication^ which » for anj reason^ we do not print; and
to thii rule we can make in^ exception*
To all communkatioiis should be affixed the name »nd
addr2«9 of the sender, not necessarily for publiostioBf Nt
as a guarantee of good faith.
B»B.n.Diali>,74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
481
»
WSDQS^ SATURDAT, DSUSMBER id, 1S7L
^V forlziet
If Jaibm H
CONTENTS. — N* 6L
KOTBBl— Olny ChrlitUn Kmrnea md Tombs, 431— The Ftti-
lUftf and Mtevsrtfi, 4^2— (Emaniuu' U&rwjri aihI iMfttthew)
Hndftll— The Electric TeJe^mpb, JS;i-Shak^jeari(ina— Thft
&iiUib Alittophuics, 4Si— ElMory Repestlxig Itaflir^BeU-
Flonodflr— fipiuph at Little HAnQpton--UDiversftl Eiomphjr
.-OMgmpblaa Enor, 4^^"* Rejected AddnsMe* *^— The
Aiclibabop ol Oiknt«ibuf7'« BapiiJm— The Ruli of Dcmfeoi-
w»lflr. 4SdL
r^Cbspmrno. the TransJator of Bomor— Anthon
iod QooUtlOD* WAot«d^The Killigirewa-Shcrifrs' Orden
lor XBteuUooA, ibT— Portmlt af Hogarth— Bobeit Pe«l Kod
3%mt9 BttTf — EplgT&ra — ** Heleu^enwufb "— " Henonghe
La Ath'*— Mw. Gooch, 17*^—" Hundred aflfer"— Sir Trtt-
ti-*m— '^Opu4 do KmaodmtloD« T«caponim "^MOftAJr d«
volift— Foxtnit of A Ladj. iSfi^Sir Potor Blre» Gar, fiATt*.
480.
E£FLT£3 r-PaoIo Smrpl 489-Tlie Fl^lit ftl Perth, 400 - Ari-
■totle on Dujciaf *a^ Po«trj, 4t)l— Thomaa Satton. 4fii^
''BemaiA Ihindea "— ThomM Tregoaw— Oiborne FAHilIf,
493 — **3uiad{m"'-Aoti Lading up Corn — Armour in
CiiurehM— lUFony of Totneai— " Kau *!e Vie, " iOi — A Skrotch
Baronetcy —*' The Court Convert." ic— Hftory Uydc of
Pimon— Heraldic— June* Pierce, 17"2tf— "Sbakapoaro aad
Ilia MoiicAl Gluaei "— llfarrUiio ia Lent, 41»5— Orl^n of
tlie VLgj^ Uoaie of Stuart — "The Cry of N&lure •'- *' Our
AfTections and PiMwJom "— N ew Work« Su^fo$t«d by An-
tho» — Silver Star — Klrby'a "'Wonderful and Eccentric
Uiueum " — " Gate," *96 — EliiAljeth H amlltoa — *' The
Y^abond," byGeoriw Walker— I — T. AHington
— •*KiiUllA"— The Hermit of i; n-The Ana^
tisllan Drama- Abbeys and Ca t luU, 407— Patd
JoaoE** Action, IPS.
S(Ae* OD Boolii, tc.
^^<&IP8Y CHRISTIAN NAMES AND TOMBS.
^^^■Ibe discuss [on of Gipsy Chrifstian names in the
^HEn of ** N. k QJ^ fibows tb^t the unusuitl iDtemt
iiilEeti of late in all relating to this ancient race is
abared by many of yonr readers. The ideiis of
most f>eopk% however, on the aubject, derived
diiefly from aensational novels and the mystified
tal^ of George Borrow, arc, I imagine, still rather
hhzj. I believe, therefore, thrit some of your
Koders tn ' ' ' ' ' ' at the un-
TntniBbe^l is afforded
by the f.it'Hi-[ ijM ].ijLi in MMi Lniui.,> i-rirpiigiug to ti
family of a west-country tribe, which 1 visited
oily. The touibs are situated in the church-
of the parish church of Gubcait, in Ren-
some foar or five miles south of
The burial-ground of this family is very
^Uid out^ ornamented with the tritditional
I and yew. The tomhstont^s are executed in
"pnt style, and the ground enclofled with
]y handsome cri^st-iron raUing; the
avea and gilt cliister» of grapes ; the
ine the idea of a burial-pLoce of some
tial and well- to-do citiaea-- the
I nfighboiiTiiig t<»\vn of GLixir^ow.
When I first visited thi^ spot» about a year ago,
ihero was, within the enclosure, only one broad
fitti stane, the inBcription showing that it had been
erected to the nieuiory of John CcK>per, who died
in January, 1872| by Sarah and Phtebe Cooper
(Ms wife and mother) ; then running as follows : —
** JPkrtwell loved wife, fond mother, and children dear.
All my sufferings and all my tcfider care,
Pbysictani were in rain, till God did please
And Death did seize and case me or ihiki pidn.
And yon, my little children, I loved so dear ;
I yoor only friend was boand to lonvc vou ,*
But trust in God, he 'II be your f&ther ana your friend,
And in the realmg of love I hope to meet you.'"
" Leave thy fatherleaa children to God's protecting care.
O Lord, fulfil thy prunase."
When I last saw the ground, another stond
had been added, hamlaomer tlian the first,— a
long narrow stone, with convex sides, meeting at
a height of about three feet, and triangular ends.
The inscription runs thuB : —
•* Here lie the Eemnins of
hoQkV Lk£ (the beloved son of J<»}tN and IjATTTOEN Lue
and brother of Nethex Lbe and grandson of Euxadeth
ShirTn)
who departed oat of thb world on the 25^ di^y of Sep. 1873*
Aged 12 yean,"
On the triangular end of the tomb is the oft-quoted
text, " Suffer little children," &c.
If we take this family as a fair epecimen of the
gipsy nice, I think it would appear that some of
their views and opinions are characterized by much
more of good taste and propriety than they gene-
rally get credit for ; and I shall l)e pleased if thia
slight note tends in the smallest degree towardB
the rehabintation of this ancient people in the ©yea
of the respectable.
In the lists of gipsy Christian namc5 given in 5*^
S. ii. 2i2, 1 do not nod three that are mentioned on
thia poor chOd's tombstone. I would commend
these picturesque names to the notice of contri-
butors to *' N* Si Q/' and writers of three- volume
novels, ^ A. Ferqusson.
United ScrTice Club, Edinburgh.
F.3. I think it cannot have escaped the natice
of some readers that the inscriptions above open up
a more interesting question with regard to the
gipsies than one merely of names ; 1 mean their
religious belief, alxjut which there is considerable
mystery and very little trustworthy endenoe.
Thei'e are, I believe, some who think that the ex-
pression ** gipsy Christian names " is a contradiction
in terms. It Ls possible that the writer who
thinks pror/ioftiina more appropriate may be one
of these. Thia question of the gipBies* belief
is a very interesting subject, which, however, I
have no intention of discussing ; but I venturo to
think that, while the yerses on the one tombsitone
give little indication of any creed, the gi|>sies who
erected the other to the memory of their child, and
caused the text (St. Luke xviii. 16) to be carved
feiereon, knew by whom the words were UBed» and
probably took tome comfort from them.
482
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*S.n.Dicl»,7<.
THE FITZALANS AND STEWARTS. •
Mr. G. T. Clark, commenting on a paper regard-
ing the Scottish invasions of Yorkshire under
Robert the Bruce, read at the Ripon Meeting of
the Archteological Institute, is reported to have
observed " that the houses of Stuart and Baliol
were both from Yorkshire." The Baliols and the
Bruces were great Yorkshire barons soon after the
Conquest : but that the Stewarts were so was a
new fact. Mr. Clark doubtless meant that they
descended from, or were related to, the Fitzalans
of Bedale, and therefore must consider this latter
family identical with the Fitzalans of Oswestry,
in Shropshire. It has been conclusively shown
by Chalmers and Riddell that Walter, "filius
Alani," the first Steward of Scotland, was the
younger brother of Willian), "filius Alani," of
Oswestrj", and that these brothers flourished during
the reigns of David I. of Scotland, and his successors
Malcolm and William, the "Steward" dying in
1177, while his elder brother predeceased him in
1160. It would be interesting, then, to know when
the Fitzalans acquired Bedale, and from whom ?
The probability is that they held it of the Honour
of Richmond. The first acquirer of Oswestry at,
or soon after, the Conquest was Alan, said to be
son of Flaald. These two proper names are pure
Breton ; and it is thus highly probable that
Flaald or Alan came over with Alan the " Red,"
of Brittany, who was created Earl of Richmond
by the Conqueror. Hence the fact of this Flaald
(or Alan his son) holding Bedale under its Breton
earl, coupled with his name, is a confirmation
of an idea which occurred to me after I had
studied the proper names of Brittany, viz., that
the Stewarts, through the Fitzalans, could trace a
Breton ancestry, —an equally interesting and truer
bit of history than the fabled descent from Banquo
and Flenncc, while curiously corroborjiting the
national belief in the Celtic origin of the Scottish
kinr^. Alan was a name reaching to a very remote
antiquity among the Breton princes, occurring at
least as early as the sixth century of our era. So
was Conan, a name breathing the spirit of the
poems of Ossian. At first sight, there would appear
to be some confusion on the subject of the Dukes
of Brittany and Earls of Richmond in the valuable
work of the late Abb6 Desroches, Tlic AnnaU
Civil, Military and Genealogical of Basse- Nor-
mandie (Caen, 1856). Alan Fergant, son of Duke
Hoel, is there said (p. 105) to have obtained "a
County Palatine in England, and immense pos-
sessions," to have become Duke of Brittany in
1084, and to have been succeeded by his son,
Conan III., who died in 1148. Then the Abb6
says (p. 106) that Eudo, Count of Penthiijvre and
Avaugour, also sent his two sons, Alan the "Red"
and Alan the " Black," with the Conqueror ; that
Alan the *'Red" became Earl of Richmond, in which
he was succeeded by Alan the " Black," his brother ;
that their brother Stephen succeeded them aa Ead
of Richmond at the end of the eleventli century,
and left the Earldom of Richmond to his son Alan,
also named the " Black." This '* young prince wis
the founder (it is said) of the Abbey of Joreval, whidi
depended on Savigny.*' His son Gonan, last Eail
of Richmond, died without male issue, learing two
daughters, one of whom took the -ml, the other
married Geoffry, son of Henry II., &c. On con-
sulting P^re iJobineau's Hittoirt de Brdagne^ the
matter is made clear. Alan the '^ Red" and his
brother Brian, who shared the fortunes of the Con-
queror, and were known as Mactiem, ue, sons of
tlie chief, were scions of a branch of the main line
of Brittany. Their brother Alan the "Bkck^ia
not said by Lobineau to have accompanied the
Conqueror. The second Alan the " Black " married
Bertha, the only daughter and heiress of Conan IH.,
Duke of Brittany. This Alan died in 1144, leavinj;
a son Conan, who afterwards acquired the Dudiy
of his maternal grandfather, and is known as
Conan IV. " le Petit," in contradistinction to his
grandfather, Conan " le Gros." Conan IV., who
is said to have built the magnificent keep of Ridi-
mond Castle, died in 1170, at the early age of
thirty'two. He was the first Earl of Richmond
who was also Duke of Brittany, and it was be,
not his father Alan, who gave the new site for
Jervaulx Abbey, transferred from its original sett
at Fors, in Wensleydale, as we are told, on accoont
of the inclemency of the air. The original site was
granted to the Savignian monks by Acarius, son of
Bardolf, a great Yorkshire landowner. Acarius's
son, Herveius, consented to the transference of the
monks to the new site ; and he appears as a witnesi,
with his brother Walter, to a charter of Conan IV.,
" Duke of Brittany and Earl of Richmond," of which
I possess a transcript, giving the Manor of Wath to
the monks of St. Michel " in peril of the sea." He
first witness to this charter is "Radulfus filius
Ribaldiy" a singular Breton name, borne by the
brother of one of the previous Dukes. This witness
and his son Robert appear first in another grant of
Conan's about the same date, showing that the
Norman proper names were making way. Even
after the extinction of the male line of the old
Breton Dukes, the Earldom of Richmond appean
to have been frequently conferred on their su^
cessors, when these were allies of England. The
step-brother of Henry V., Arthur of Brittanj,
appears to have held it, which brings its tenure as
an appanage of Brittany down to the expulsion
of the English arms from Normandy. In " Jud-
hael de Loheac," who appears among the Breton
knights who followed Alain and Brian, we doubt-
less recognize Johel of Totnes, the great Devonshire
landowner. Aj^olo-Scotus.
5*» 8. IL Dxc. 19, 711
NOTES AND QUEltlES-
483
(BRASMUS) DARWIN AND (MATTHEVY)
TINDALL.
I am in ^v^-^^'^^^ion of sundry fraginentftiy volumes*
[of the 3/ jasitie^ (ts published ia London,
[ranging i . _ v in date from 1796 to 1818,
1 rescued from tinal destruction in its present shape
I at a neighbouring paper-works the other day,
J whither they had been sent, along with a waggon-
iload of other material^ for reproduction in another
I (otni.
After a bMty perusal, I find many odds and ends
ji»f i\ political, commercial, scientific, philosophical,
|»nd other order, which might repay the Libour of
I transcribing, if only as evidencing how history
[repents itself. But my purpose here is more to
*»fcr to a couple of names I met with in these old
iind diinpidrttcd pages, become in recent times as
*liar J** household words. They are those of
rin and TyndalL The former appear-^, Feb. 1,
in connexion with *' Literary' and Philoso-
f|>hical Intelligence," and is to be read of thus :—
* Dr. Dunviii, tbo author of the Botanic Oardaij ii
ngiiged on a new poem^ to bo entitled the Timph of
VtAlur€, Tbia, Ktke his fornicr poem, vrill bo divided iato
|«ro p«rt« , ibe 0r%t mfty h^ expected some time in the
>tirte of next spring/'
i^V —*'' " ^'^eeding the foregoing notice, Darwiu,
it i' inasmuch as there is a letter, July,
\f^^-J.. V II. v.^T^ug certain strictures on a memoir of
the dcc-emied in the same journal (preceding June) ;
vl,i, 1i 1. tter» if not overcrowding your space, and
ip some spark of interest, shall be copied,
*' In ibe Bto^r&phical Memoir of tbe late Dr. Darwini
\x%tpfv^i\ in youroiagnitne of last month, there is an error,
villi ELB at first aigbt it miij appenr, has j^et %
: > flhade a Jittlc of those domestic virtues that
^ fender hij memory aa much famciiUd by bia
! hifi writings have made it respected by the
^ leratare.
KTmintnlcG I allude to relates to tbo circumstances
tft bis dfeftth : where it ie stateJ, that on the very morning
if liiifuftunate event t ok pince» be had been
zAy to bl« aerratit about his borsei, and
t this riolent fit of Tja%«ion might p:>Bjiibly
leans of haatening hi* end.
in sure, he pleiueing to you to have tbi;
cting thiB account, which might convey
V ideas of tbe chiiracter of my deceased friend
ent from the mild and good-humoured berie-
i woicii adorned it. I hiive the concurrent testi-
til those who surrounded Dr. iMrwin on the
' hU death (including tbe two men servants,
f whom tluB conversation is suppoaeJ to hiive
if and whom I qneftioned particukrly on the
prove that not a gingle anRi-j word parsed
Kat'day between biiu and any puri of the family;
' be \rM bticily employed in writing during the
"^ the tnoming, &4 was hia custom ; till a cold
\ Bupcrvenedf and in a few hours teraiinmted
There are pcveral other little inaccuracies
tparable indeed from a memoir drawn up in
"cfi ! for!>ear to notice, as of t*f^mp«irrttiv<?ly
icularly n^ I irit ' i
lO life and wricin. >,
to correct, cunrnie euiamo, the phrase of * Eat, Eat, Eat,'
which i§ iftid to have been a fiivourileoncof the f'octurs,
into ' K«t, or be EaUm." The former, during a xary
long and intimate acquaintance, I never beard him use ;
tbe latter vciry frequently^ partlculurly to young perioits.
*Tu a striking, though melancholy law o? our natures,
and wai well calculated by tbo novel ty of tbe phrase to
tmprc«d strongly tbe mind and memory, arid produce tbe
permanent effect he intended. By insertiug tbe above
you will oblige several of Dr, Darwin's friends and family,
and do an act of justice to his memory.
'* I am your humble servant,
* ' I^ K W H URST BlLS£OE&OW»''
"Dttlby House, June lltb, 1802/'
The latter of the two names, that of Tyndall, or,
as spelled, " Tindall," appears in a supplementary
number of the same magazine, January, 1817, as
alluded to by Prof. Stewiirt, in bis fjiatory of the
Progress of Metaphydeal^ Ethical ,, and Puliiical
Phitoiophijf fince the Revival of Ldters in Europe^
in the following words : —
•* The Philosopher of Malmeabury (Hobbeal, says Dr.
Warburton, waa the terror of tbe last age, as TindtiU and
Collins are of thi-!» The press sweats with Controversy,
and every young churchman militant would try his arms
in thundering on Uobbes's * steel cup.* **
J, D, G.
THE ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.
It is interesting in these dayg, when the tele*
graph has been brought to such perfectiooi to
notice unytliing in tbe past relating to th^ subject*
The following is so extraordinarj" and accunite a
prophecy that I venture to bring it nnder your
observation. But for the omission of the battery
and connecting wire, the instrument is almost
identically the same as nmny in everyday use in
our warehouses, &c,, here, while the theory is in
ever}' respect the same : —
*'HARKWl£Lt> ApOLoar*"
(Printed at Oxford, 1030. Book iii. p. 827,)
** Tbe Loade above all other atonci hath tbi« ftrange
propcrtie,
If sundry steeles thereto or needles yee Apply,
Such force and motion thence they draw, th»t they
iocliRe
To turne them to the Beare, which necre the Pole
doth ehine;
Nay more, as many tteeles as touch that virtuous stone,
III strange and wondrous sort conspirmg all In one,
To;:cther move themselves, and situate together :
A^ if one of those steeles at Rome he stir*d, tbe other
The sclfesame way will stirre though they farre distant
bee,
Aud all through Nature's force and secret Bvmpathlc ;
Well then, if you of ought would faino advise your
friend
That dwells far off, to whom no letter you can send,
A large amooth round table make, writs down the
Chri^tcruSi^e * row
In order on the verge thereof, and then bestow
The needle in tbe mid'st which touch't tbe Loade,
that 10
What note soe're yon lift it straight may tame unto :
Then frame another orbe In all re«peeta like this.
phabet in form oC v^ «
484
NOTES AND QUERIES.
l5»^an.DB0.19,74.
Describe the edge, and lay the Steele thereon likewise,
The Steele which from the selfsame Hagnes motion
drew;
This orbe send with thy friend what time he bids adieu :
But on the dayes agree first when you mean to prore
If the Steele stirre, and to what letter it doth moye,
This done, if with thy friend thou closely would'st
adyise.
Who in a country off farre distant from thee lies,
Take thou the orbe and Steele which on the orbe was
Bet,
The Christcrosse on the edge thou see'st in order writ.
What notes will frame thy words to them direct thy
Steele,
And it sometimes to this sometimes to that note wheele,
Turning it round about so often till you finde
You have compounded hU the meaning of your minde.
Thy friend that dwells far off, 6 strange ! doth plunly
see
The Steele to stirre, though it by no man stirred bee,
Buniiing now heere now there : He conscious of the
plot.
As the Steele guides, pursues, and reades from note to
note,
Then gathering into words those notes, he clearly sees
What's needefuU to be done, the needle truchman* is.
Now when the Steele doth cease its motion, if thy
friend
Thinke it convenient answerc bock to send,
The same course he may take, and with his needle
write,
Touching the severall notes what so he list indite.
Would God men would be pleased to put this course in
use,
Their letters would arrire more speedy and more sure.
Nor Rivers would them stoppe, nor theeves them
intercept,
Priiicc3 with their own hands their businesse might
effect.
We Fcribes from blacko sea 'scaped, at length with
harty Wils
At the table of the Loade would consecrate our quils."
C. D. K.
Manchester.
SHARSPEARIANA.
The Harness Shakspeare Prize Essay (6*^
S. ii. 405.) — Mr. Rives was certainly in error when
he stated that there is but a single authentic
instance of the use of such a form in Shakspeare
as " Forbid the sea for to obey the moon" {Winter's
Tale, i. 2, 427), for in addition to the example
from Hamlet, " for to prevent," we have —
" Let your highness
Lay a more noble thought upon mine honour
Than /or to think that I would sink it here."
Airs Well that Ends Wdl, v. 3, 179-181.
" Here lacks but your mother /or to s.iy amen."
Titv^ A ndronicuSf iv. 2, 44.
** We will solicit heaven and move the gods
To send down Justice /or to wreak our wrongs.**
/(/., iv. 3, 50-51.
" Or that these pirates.
Not enough barbarous, had not o'erboard thrown me
For to seek my mother."
Pericles, iv. 1, 69-71.
* "Truchman "=InteTpTeteT.
" Think women still to itrire with i
To sin and never /or to Moni."
PamonaU PUgrm, 841-9L
And all the qoarto editions of HamUi (except
the first) read —
" We 11 teach you/or to drink er^joa depwt"
For the above referenceB, I am indebted to
Dr. Alexander Schmidt's recently pablished Skak-
spere- Lexicon, Edward YiLiSb
In Act L 8C. 2, Hamlet says to Horatio—
" Well teach you to drink deep ere jwi dapflwi."
In a foot-note to Staanton's edition tbls is re-
ferred to as
" The reading of the 1603 quarto and of the foDo IffiB;
the other old copies have—
' We '11 teach you /or to drink ere yon depart' "
This seems to me a parallel case with the
reference from The Winter's Tale (L 2), where the
word " for " is omitted in the folio of 1623, «
Mr. Williams points out. J. S. Udal.
Junior Atheuseum Club.
Mr. Rule sends the following additional ex-
amples : —
" Neighbours and friends, though bride and bridegroom
wants
For to supply the places at the table."
Taming o/ the Shrew, ixL 2, S19.
*' Not for because your brows are blacker.**
WinterU Tale, ii. 1,7.
" But for because he hath not woo'd me yet."
King John, ii. 2, s. 1, 1. 588 (0am. edit)
** And for because the world is populous.'*
iitdL//.,v.5,8.
" Oh, a pit of clay for to be made
For such a guest is meet.'*
ffamUt, T. 1 (Song).
Shakspeare^s Name (5*** S. ii. 2, 405.)— It
appears to me that as this name seems to indicate
one who brandishes, or causes a spear to vibrate,
so does Fewtarspeare apply to him who couches,
or lays the same weapon m the rest, making readj
for the charge. To fettle, fettled, mean much
the same — put in order, fit for action, properly
arranged : —
" Then was King Marke ashamed, and therewith he
feutred his speare and ran against Sir Trian."
" That saw Sir Dinadan, and hee feutred his speare,
and ranne to one of Sir Berluses fellowes.*'
" And then they feutred their si>eareB, and this Knight
came so egerly that he smote downe Sir Ewane aI(»M.
** So Sir Agrawaine feutred his speare, and that other
was ready, and smote him downe over hia horse taile to
the earth. "—Za Mori d'Arthure, vol. ii. c. 94, 95, 98.
W. J. BsRNHARD Smith.
Temple.
"The English ARiSTOFHANBSy" &c. — In an
interesting note on Mackenzie (5^ S. iL 23S),
W. A. C. gives a few specimmia of some of these
\ \sM<»)i.^^^ \Ax»llels. The doeert U tlie ^ '
C» & II. Dio. 19, 74.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
485
c^n Goldsmith '*; but Irving, in nnch fine extmva*
gnncca as Rip Van irijikU^ and Goldsmifch id bqcJi
delicious chtiracter-verse as Rdaliation^ showed
that their circles did not wholly coincide. Mac>
kenzie was a deliberate imitator of Addison.
When Byroa called Scott the " Ariosto of the
North " he made a, great blunder ; he was himself
of nenn?r kin to the Italian poet. To call B^xanger
itL "Fnr'nch Burns" i« Bheer nonsen&e. I cannot
ri^ liave any point in common. B^rantjer
art, hh humour b that of cities, his
uiiumve and qaaint ; Burns is artless
r, with a Doric humour, and t\ poetry that
c;ilil:i]i US charm from a daisy or a field mouse, or
** ii nnl, red rose/* What a whole watershed lies
(to write geographically) between the fountains
^ which fed the authors of
• Duncan Gray cam* here to woo/'
and
' Dsfii un grcnier qu*oii est bicn a Tingt ans ! *'
[Baddr*! of all h to find Foote called the " English
lArl ' ' /' VThid are the ^*many chanxcter-
iiti .lion *' ? Foote was an inexhaustible
'pToaii'i '1 ilupnt nonsense^ and is perhaps most
rcmemlitrcil novr for Imving perplexed a lecturer
• ' ■ by a rigmarole .about the "Grand
To name him with xVristophanes I
:..s essay on the Birth^ Mil see what
kdeep pniitirnl and philosophicd knowledge that
I drama onntuin?. So indeed did all his dramas ;
[while the cxqiiisitij pure Attic style, the ninj^icul
liim*;[i nf ihr lyricri in every play, are quite without
I par te is aa far beneath Aristophanes as
fue- I i\ beneiith Shukspeare.
MoETIMEa GOLLIKS.
Knowl Hill. Jksks.
HiBTtmr RstPKATiKQ It&blf. — The TatUr^
^"- '■"'■■\ February 7, 1700-10, has the following
V hich vivifll}' re[»rri<ents, with remarkable
wi,^^ the events Ihut have occurred within
ricdge of the present generation, and Iiit«
Ksion at starting the present general st^te
Speaking of nis own time, the essayist
I to say : —
** It is &till LIg with great cvcntf, aaid has already pro*
iir 1 rljiii-e-* litnl rrrolutions, which will be as much
!t*rtty OS atiy tliat havo happened * in the
ra, or in the oUl timp^ before them,'
'' ' ' • ' > I iinitcil, tnomirchg
1 from one io?e-
|i» . ■ ' such ft gr&iitacfa
jivi'u ik tcriv-r lo tlurop.?, aud thruwa down by
M, M hu moved their piij/*
F. D.
KoltinghAm.
Bei,l-Fol-xdf»r.— In a former series of *'K&
l^ mi iariairy wn. ntn<lp as to Johannes de
, a bel! 0 name appears upon
I li All b Leiceet^ar, thus ;^
1 fivi»
'*!. n* c.
iHOHAirWBS : DE : STAFFORD : FECIT : MS :
IN : noNOKE ; BE : icABrK/*
I have since learned, from an ancient Roll of the
Mayors of Leicester, that John de Stafibrd was
Mayor of that borough in 1366, and again in 1370.
Tbut a bell -founder of the same name lived at
that time is shown in a Eoll of expenses connected
with the casting of bells at York Minster in 1371,
tmn scribed by the Rev, H. T. Ellacombe in hia
Bdh of the (Jhurch^ p. 244 : ** Et, in una Magna
Campanu, per Johannem de Statiord ex conven-
cione oj>eranda, G^. 1 3s. 4tf.'* Another bell from
the aame founder hangs at Sea why, near Brigg,
Lincolnshire. Are any more known ? I may have
more to say (and hope to give an engraving of hiB
initial cross) upon John de Stafford in my forth-
coming work on the ** Church Bells of Leicester-
shire.'* Thomas Nokth.
The Bank} Leicester.
Epitaph at Little Hampton.— rnserted into
the south wall of the choir in the church of Little
Hampton, near Evesham, is a small stone, bearing
the following epitaph, which I copied in 1868 : —
" Be^er what aeedei a Panegjricks f>kil\ ;
a limnert pen sill or a Poct^ quill,
They are but nni^^rabie comfort'^rt.
Wheo b«wlJ otii ixd^ ij. V-lr ecpulchtrif
Ami when the life in k ut
TLl' naked nnmca a inn. I.. .-. .. : aent :
To kecpe from rotting: piety an*! nlttio*
Doe furr excell the best CEg1pti*ui b^thuea ;
Then wlu>ftoor thou art this courve h wvfe ;
Live lire thy selfo both toombo and epitaph.
Amoris ergo poeuit
April 8 Ano Don. 1651J*
V.H.LL.LC.LV.
ITxiTERSAL BiooBAPHY.— Works under this
attractive title have been presented to the public,
which fail to realize the professed unirersality.
In one very recent volume so entitlod, I could
point out many omissions of names, both English
and foreign, of persons of considerable merit and
distinction in Science, Art, and Literature ; while
others, still living, of little or no reputation, are
inserted. More particularly, I could enumerate
a great many eminent Irishmen wholly unnoticed,
buth in this book and in another, in three huge,
f retentions, and expensive volume*, edited by an
risbman ! S. T. P.
GKOGRAPnicAL Ebbor.— In ArrowsimtVs Ntw
Om&ral Atlns^ a beivutifuUy executed iieriea of 53
maps, published in 1817, by Constable & Oa,
Edin,, I met with a strange and unaccountuble
error a short time ago, which I am tempted to
" midte a not^ of," The meridians of longitude,
both at the upper and the lower borders of the map
of the United State??, Plate 5(», are numbered in
on incres^ng aeriea &<iui W, \j^ ^.^-^Niilssi "Qqs^ ^s^^-
486
NOTES AND QUERIES.
15*8. !!• Dec 19, 74.
graver has indicated that the numbering represents
** Longitude West from Greenwicli,-' Accordingly,
the western limit of Lake Superior appears to be
nearly 44** W., ifthiie Quebec 13 repreaented &s 65"
W. ; the real longitudea being atont 92" and 7P
respectively, E/t^I
** Eejectid ADDaEsaKa,''^Tn Mr, John Mur-
ray's recent editions of this clever little book, he
ha^ omitted three verses from The lAi^nff Lustra^
an ioutaition of Tom Moore, It is true the vereea
are not ^qunl to the remainder of the poem, but
as the whole tbing m a joke, venr high poetical
merit is not required, I think the lines are at least
wnrthy^ of a place in a foot-note : —
rv.
" Each pUlar that opcnft our itag^ to tho circle It
Verdant aiiti!;i!iOf Hkc Kinon de I'Encloi ;
I 'd ramble from them to the pillars oi Herctilee,
Give mo but Koaa wlieroTer I go**'
VI,
'* Attoii'd to ih^ aceae irh«n the pale j^IIow moon li on
Tover and tree, the? 'd look Bober utid m^e.
And when tliej alJ winked their deur peepers in unison,
Nightj pitchy nighty would envelope the stage,"
VI r.
*'Ah f could T Bomc giTl from yon boi forheryotJth pkk,
I 'd loTc her as long as she blosaomed in youth ;
Oh ! irbite ia the caie of her iTorj ioothpick.
But wben be&utj smileaj how much irhiter the tooth,"
Jeffrey, in ]m criticism of that delightfal piece
of gaUmaHti* entitled Drnnfs Di'i'gt^ by Laura
Matilda, sijs, *^ The verses are not so good nj
Swift's celebrated 8ong hy o Person of Qualitij/^
to which be compares them* This was a slip ; be
doubtless meant to sny, A Loi't Song m th^ Modern
Task, trhich opens thus :—
" Fluttorinjj »prea4 thy purple pinionSj
Gentle Cupid, o'tT my Kei^T-t ;
I^ a flluTG in thy ilomtniona ;
Jinturu muiat give way to art."
and is far more non??cnsical thfiti the Son^ by a
Person of Qualitij^ br-^idea abounding in classical
allusions. See Hawkefiworth^s edition of Swiilt^
176Gj voL vii. pap? 2iU,
A propof of the imitation of Sir Walter Scott,
I should like to know whether two firt^men, named
Muggins and Hif^j^iubottom, did perish at the
burning of Old Bniry, as there described,
Walter Hjjmiltok.
"Thb AnennieHnr of GAwxEnuiJET^s BAprtsM.^The
following communication respecting Archbigihop Tait^a
hapti<im, from a brother of HJi Grarej appcaris in the
present is«uo of the Church Ilentld :—* Archibald Camp-
bell Tftit waa bom on the 21 at of December, lSll,aud
baptized on the 10th of Febnmry by the Rev. Dr.
M Kifibt." * The a^iove i^ copied by me from the family
Bible of my fath^rt Crauftird Tait, of Haweifiton, Esq.,
my father antl the nrchbUhop'a. It waa inserted in
tliia Bible by our mother, wlio died on the 3rd of January,
1814, and who entered in it the birtha and baptiaroa of
ftll her ehildren as th^ eecurred.'— Jia, Cakpbei,!*
TAfT,— 13, Great l^tnart Street, Edinbuz^h."
With leferencB to tb@ above quotaJtbn ftom a
di^ily paper, it may be ijit'erefiting to the rettdera
of ^* K, & Qf to be informed as to the pemonal
history of the only Presbyterian minister who
ever had the privilege of baptizing a primate of
the Bngtish church, Thomas Macknight was son
of the celebrated James Maeknigbt, D.D., one of
the ministers of Edinburgh, and author of the
Ifarmotiy of the JVtir (?o«t>«&, and other wodcs.
Ediiaited at the High Sciiool and Univensity of
Edinburgh, he obtained licence aa a probationer
April 30, 17@@. He waa ordained minister of the
second charge, South Leitb, Febrna^ 17, 1791,
and was IranslatM to Trinity College Chupch,
Edtnbutgh, April 25, 1804. He was appoint^
sub*derk of the Genera! Assembly in May, 1804,
and was elected Moderator in May, 1820. He
died Januaty 21, 1836, aged seventy-four. Though
not a pfipukitr preacherj he was much esteemed for
his learning and urbanity. He some time taught
the Greek and Natural Pbiiosophy class^ in the
University with acceptance and hud. Few mei
were less eatitled to the designation of ^' an old
woman," whicli has recently been applied to hini
by the Anglo-Catholic party in the Church.
Charles RooerBj LLB.
Grampian Lodge^ Forest Hill, S.E.
Thk Eari^ of DERWEKTWATEa— The enclofled
extract from the Times is worth preservatioa in
the pages of ** N, & Q,," and is consequently for^
warded for insertion : —
^'As the Commisaionert of Greenwich Hoapita] an
about to dispose of the Dilflton portion of the i^erwcot-
water ef tatet, there vai a somewlmtintf rei tine: cert nwnj
nt Dibton Cliapcl on Fnday {9th October, ISH), in the
presence of a large number of ^ectators. The rcmsiiu
of James, tlie third EtttJ of Derwent water, who wu
beheaded in iTl'j, dt the age of S7, were removed by rul
to Thomdon, Ea^ex, to be rc-interred m the fimilj \iulfi
of Jjord Fetre. The remains of otlier membera of tie
familv were interred in the Eoman Catholic Clianrli
bariabground at Hexham, the burial Aervi^re heiajT con-
ducted hy the Reva. J. Cook and F. KirfcFopp. Tbett
were ftre coffins re iutoffed, tieing thoao of Francb^ firat
Earl of Derwenlwater, ivho died in 1696, at the sge of
72 ; Edwfirdi second Earl, wlio died in 1705, aeed 5'),*
Franoia Rod^lyfTe, who died in 1704, aged 48 ; Barbsn
lladcUffe, who died tn 1696; and Lady Marr, dioghc^r
of the lirat Earl, who die J in 17 id.''
It may be worth noticing that at Thomdon
Hall, near Brent wo odj in Esses;, where the body of
the unfortunate Karl of Derwentwater has beeo
taken for i^-interment, are preserved the suit which
he wore at the time of his execution, and also ih
black cloth with which the scaffold was covered
D lis ton is not far from Hexham in Xorthnmber-
land ; and in Howitt^i Visits to BemarkabU Phim
ia an accuunt of a journey of inapection made to it
by the author^ and a drawing of the interior of the
vault in mhieh the bodies were deposited* The
coffin of the last Earl was opened in order U
ascertain whether the head bad been baried with
the body, which wai the ca^ ftiid doe« mtt m&a
r
«» 8. n. Dbc. 19, 74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
4S7
to have been ejrposed on Temple Bnr after his
de^mpttation. At the tirae of Mr. Howatt's visit
to Dilnton, ^Ir, Grey filled the office of steward to
the c state*, whose life has recently been so ably
written by hifl daughter.
John Pickford, M,A.
Kewboume Rectory, Woodbridgc.
[Wft muAt request correspondeiitt desixing tnforTD»tJi>T]
OS family matten of only priv^ate intereitt to ^x their
nmnuti Mid addreMisa to their qaeries, in order th&t the
answen may bo addreoed to thorn diiisct.]
I Chapman, the Translator or Homer* — In
hiB jolay of BvMy d'Atnbou, Act. L sc. 1, he htis
|Jm following passages : —
^m ** Great ecamen, udng all their wealth
^H And ikilla in Neptune's deep inviaible patbs^
^Bln tall ^bi^fi richiy built and riWd inYA brau,
^F% piit a girdle round about the world." ♦ . *
"What mrtiCuJars are known of the building and
inAtcrlala of ships in the Elizabethan aj^c that will
wnrrant the expression ''ribVd with brass ^' ? Ih
tlie last line a plagiariaDi from Bhakgpearel It
iiecalhj Puck's boast:—
" I 'U put a izirdle round about the earth
la forty minutes/*
In the same scene, Monsieur advisea Bussy to
llearo his di&coDtent and obscurity, and seek Im
[ibrtune earnestly : —
•* Biiisy. What would you wish met
Mon^iatr. Leave the troubled streams.
And tire^ iis tbriTcra do, at the well-bead.
£uuff. At the wcll-beadl Alaa I what ihould I do
_ With tbat enchanted g)a» I See deviU thero 1
~ l^f, like a atrumpet, learn to Ht my lochi
' ian tiimat Irake, or practise juggling,
mj face atill fast, my heart itill loose;
fitke damg ichoolmutrases their riddUs)
ignttf and l€ ^ood only /or a thift ;
• • • • •
To f^in beiniB^ forward, though you break in haste
J^^' '' ^ ' - -1 ' - '? ere you break your fast?
1 , make your period
f ^\ '.-, ' I believe in God ' :
♦ *!♦••
Shall I learn this thef^T'
He " believing Iwickward*,^* &c, refers, I presume,
to the old jui^Ung formulas ; but will somebody
unriddle the lines I have Italichted ? E. S. H.
Swansea.
^
Authors and Quotations Wanted. —
•* Q. ;...,, u 1.. ^ji)u mundo cunctii tuU gratus haberi^
I i>ow;«t— plurims, pauca, nihil/*
Tli 1 have taken the liberty to translate
the lollowing words: —
"Would xou by all be wckome thought,
OivQ much, take littte. ask for nought."*
a B.
J^^i^M
** la fine lively fpirits be sits down to play^
But the cards from his venturcB they all fiy away."
The ainive was extracted, prior to 1842, from a
book on club-life in London, Title of book for-
gotten. Query, the author's name, &e. M. C.
Norwich.
'* Oh, Boger ! oh, Roger ! bince thou art my eoUr
I '11 give thee the best of adTioe—
Put on thy Hriie clothca and thy new yellow hose.
And I '11 warrant thee *k find tbec a wife.
Aye, tha will, po tha will ;
And 1 '11 warrant thee It find thee a wife."
The above was suog by an old lady (now
deceased) about the beginning of tlm century*
When was the colour of stockings referred to in
fashion ? What fire the remaining verses of the
old song ] James Higsok, F.E.H.S.
Ardwick.
" 0 wha daur middle wi' me,
And wha daur middle wi* me ;
My name it is little Jock Eltot,
And wha daur middle wi' me V*
Docs a complete copy of this border song exist
and where is it to be found ? W, E. R.
TttK KiLLroREWs, — I require the pedigree ol
this diBtinguished family, so far as to show the
relationship of the dramatists and poets bearing
that name. There were —
L Sir William K ill i grew, Master of the Re veil
to Charles II. HLs dramatic work^, three in
number, were coUected in 1674.
2. Thomas Killigrew, called " Oharies the Se-
cond's jester," one of the grooms of H-M, Bed-
chamber, and head of a company of players. His
dramatic works were collected in 1664, with por-
trait by Fairthorne^
3. Henry Killigrew, author of Pallantua and
Eudora ; or, the Conspiracy (written at the age of
seventeen). 4 to., ICafe ; and fo., 1653. Probably
resident at Emden.
4- Anne Killigrew» whose poetical works were
collected in 1686. 4to., with portmit.
5. Br. Henry KiUigrew, Master of the Siivoy in
1668.
6, Robert KilligreVs name is in a MS. volume
of poems in the Sloane Collection-
Any information on the relationship of these
persons will be acceptable to Jabrz.
Athenarum Club.
Sheriffs* Orders for Executions.— Have any
of your readers ever met with the Sheriflfa* orders
for jiny of the executions of our sixteenth-century
mnityre ? Where ought such documents to be
found now — in the Record Office (and if so, under
what title), or in County Shrievalty otlices ? Tho
particular object of inquiry relat(.*s to martynloms
on four occ^Lsions, connected chieily with Eeaex
p» ople, in the years 1555 and 1556, of whom some
of the early documents say they were butQ«*L^i
488
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[^&ILI>io.I9,7l.
Stratford, near London^ and some aaj at Stratford-
le-Bow, the former being ux Easei:, the Litter in
Middlesex,
There is no fu^ount of these burnings in the
Parish EegiBter of St. Mary, Stmt ford -lo-Bow ;
andj unfortQDJitelj, the register of West Ham does
not go farther bAok than 1640. Anj general or
local information on this matter would greatly
oblige, and assist me in an important historical
Tesearch, W. J. B.
PoBTRAiT OF HooAaxn, — In the Athenwum of
Oetoher 24 there are extracts from the priced cata^
logue of the sale of Hogarth's pictures. Among
these are three portraits of Hogai'th by himself ;
one is in the National Gallety^ another in the
National Portrait GalleTy, and the third, "His
own portniitj a head," is, I have every ground for
hoping, now in my posaesBion, It was obtained for
me &ome three years ago, through the kindness of
Mr. Woolner, the eminent Bculptor, who has no
doubt whatever that it is an original portrait of
and by Hogarth. It is merely the head and
Hhoulders. On the head m the well-known furry
cap^ and the expression of the face is full of life
and power. la any other portrait of Hogarth
(besides the three already mentioned) noir exist-
ing? Henet a. Height.
LiTerpool,
RoBEKT PiEL AND Jamis Barbt* — In the year
1805, the friends of James Barry , the painter, sub-
acribed a sum of about l,(>00i, to purchase an
annuity for him. When hh friends saw bow ^i«at
were his wants, and how sjnall the amount of the
annuity tn be obtained woukl be, one of the sub-
scribers, I have heard, said, ** Give me the money,
and I will guarantee Barry one per cent, more
than tbe regular rate." The offer was acceptedj
but Barry died before the first quarter of his an-
nuity became due. J was told, nearly fifty years
ago, by one of the subscribers to the fund, wlio
has long been dead, that this offer was juiid© by
Eobert Peeh 1 should be glad to know whether
the statement is correct. Edward Sollt.
E PI OR AM, —
" Lumiao Aeon dextro, capta ut I/Cftnilla siniatro,
Et potemt fyrmft vincflro ut«rque Beof,
ParT^ puer lanicn quod h^bei concede poellae ;
Slc tn coccus amor, bii: cnt iUa Veiiiu,"
Who wi^ote thiB epigram? The title is as
follows : " On a beautiful Youth struck blind with
lightning. Imitated from the Spnish," The
epigram is really by Ginolomo AmafteOp
A. H. B.
" Helengekwagh,"— Can any explanation be
giTen of the origin of this marvellous Christian
name, which waa borne by a sister of Lady Bril-
liana Harley, and, may it not be hoped, by no one
e/*e / T. W. ^\ EBB.
" Hekoughb IK ATH,**-^Ia the Mat of strangere
resident in Iiondon in 1618^ published by the
Camden Society in 1363, 1 see seireral who are
said to have coma ffom '*Henoughe in AtL^
What can this mean ? Ii it *^ Ath in Hainaiilt ' I
E, F. D, a
Mrs. Cooch. 17S@.^I ha^e a pamphlet oiDed
An> Af^^al to (he Publu on the Vondu^ of Mn.
Gocckf the Wife of William GoocA, Esq.y writt^
by heiielf, and dated *' Fleet Priaon, Janmuy 1,
IV 88," What was the mibaeqnent £ite of this
unfortunate lady, who was married at Reyenteeai,
and discarded by her husband at twenty t
MoETtMsR CoLLnra.
Knowl HIU, Berki.
*' HtTKDRED SrLTEH,"— There are 8e?end p»i»h^
in Herefordshire and Worcestershire subject to tlie
annual payment of a small sum of money called
" Hundred Silyer,^ In some inatanees it is paid
to a private person. The me.aning of this temi,
the origin of the payment, and the anthatity foe
oollecting it, are desired. MoirrB be Alto*
Sm TEmTRAU.— In John Man wood's TrtatiM
mi th^ Latcts of th4 Foresty reference is made U
** old Sir Tristram in his worthie treatise of Halt-
ing.'' la this work still in existence, and whem
can a copy be seen ? I do not allude to other
books bearing his name — to Laya or RoniAnoe^^
but to the one on Hunting*
George R, Jesse.
" 0pU3 DB ElfEKDATlOlfE TEJIPORtTlt," Bj
Joseph Justus Scaliger, who died at Leydea in
1C<.>9, — ^From what source was the informatioa
given in the above work regarding Calicut,* on the
south west coast of India, derived, and has mf
English or French translation of it ever been pat
lished ? £L
Stare rosB-
Mqstab de TEL18, muitn d4 vUliartj mvMard^
- - - dotk"
' term J
J, T, F
Hatfield HaU, Durhaoii
villars^ "a kind of mixed grey woollen i
(HalliweU), What is the denvstion of the \
FoRTRAiT OF A Ladt. — T hav6 recently seec a
portrait of a lady, evidently of the early part of
the reign of Elizabeth, the bodice of whose dress
is represented as covered with embroidered aconifi
and oak leaves. I have strong reasons for lieliet-
ing that this person w^as connected , by marriage cr
bloody with the House of Percy, Earls of Iforthuni-
berland, Most probabljf the acorns are a badge,
not a fancy orn anient. If this be so. it may be
possible to identify the picturet I shaU be glad if
any one can throw light upon it. C^RXtJa
* Ckriitiaitii^ in India, by Biiho^ Boush, toL i p. I0(k
fk8.ILDia.10.74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
»
Bin Peter Kivers Gat, Bart, (or Grey, as
it in Hnrdya edition of Le Neve*s Fasti)^ Wiis
'Winchester from 176G to 1790. He
_,__,^^ of Woolwich, in Kent. L^'sons
tays timt h^^ aj*sumed the rmme of Gay in conse-
quence of his inheriting a considerable estate from
A gentleman of that name. Any particukiB as to
liis anccstrj* luid the property thiiB acquired would
be of service to E. H. W. Bdnkin.
Kidbrooko Pork Eoadi Bla^khe&ih.
PAOLO 8ARPL
(1«* a iv. 275 ; 2"^ S. ir. 121 j vii. 350 ; x. 62 ;
B«> S. i. 1B4, 223, 243, 315, 397, 43S.)
The judgments of writers on the charact<^r of
this eminent ndversary of the Court of Rome will,
I |>rob(al>ly^ be acceptable to many of your refers.
I The notes of Sir Roger Twysden on the Histonf
I of thi Council of Trent have been given in 2"** S.
lir. 121-24. For hi^ life, besides the numerous
iTtfeiienc' ' "" '. *b Z'ldtOTi^ry, 1739^ (vt. Pitolo,
Land in < r be reader may consult the lie-
<* « , ii. 437, Buckle's Miscdlajiej^us
fat4 MW/a, iL 175, and Lowndea'a
^ Manual, edited by Bolm, who
!iman*8 MagiViint^ Anirusi, 1838, &c*
'he Ecign of Charles F. By William
^ 'jJge of the procoedingi of ihi« aetembW
lift derived from three diferent authors. Father Paul,
fof V«okc, wrote hia UUtory of the Council of Trent
' wliile the memory of what passed wa§ recent, and some
who had bean memben of it were atill aliro. He has
cxpoted the i&triguei and artifices hy which it was eon-
ducted with a freedom and fererity which bavc fftren a
deep WDond to the credit of the COuncib He has de-
ed ita deliberationB, and exploined its decrees, with
k perspicuity mA de[ith of thonghtt with iuch varioui
jition, and such force of reason, as have justly en-
1 his work to be placed among the most admired
rical eonipoiitioni. About half a century thereafter
I Jeiait PaUavicint published his Ilisiorif of ths
41 in Opmtitwfi to (hat of Paul, and by einploying
I foree of an acute and refining genitifl to invalidate
£«" credit or to confute the reasonings of his antagonist,
he labours to prove, by artful apotogiet for the prt>-
^_ oeedlngs of the Council, and eubtde interpretations of
^H its decreet, that it deliberated with impartiatitv, and dc-
^Vcided with judgment as well at candour. Varga<3, a
^M Bnmiab doctor of lawa, who was appointed to attend
^P toi imperial amhassadort at Trent, sent the Bishop of
V Arms a regular account of the transactions there, ex-
pUifiing all the arts which the legate employed to
inJBuenco or overawe the Oonncil. The letters have
been [publish edf in »vl " V ' weighs ftgainst the Papal
Oeurt with that a«v^ -"re which was natuml
la a man wTioaL* ^iti .led him to oLscrvc iv^
yitr4gnes t luid whu was obliged :
Ilia altera ent* in order to disa;
• . . ^ i- % • Ys, pcrhajife, li:
pcr» luit ever was altt*.
tap»r viewed the tmn>n i
of men» and i oaMUod oanceraiiig the interefts of tocit
with the enlarged sentimenfes of a philosopher^ with the
di«cemment of a man conversant in affairs, and with
the liberality of a gcntlemaa."
Nathanuel Brent's Dcdicntion: —
" I offer to your Majcstici view the truett and most
judicious ecclesiastical hiitorie that either modem times,
or any anti<|U)tie, hath aflbrded to the world ; impalrtfd,
I confesse, in beauty as baing trangported out of the
naturall lustre both of style and phra»e, hy a rude and un-
fikilliill Translator, but nothinc^ aUcrf-d in the troth and
sincerity of the matter which it handloth.'*
Ranke's History of the Fopcs^ Bohn, vol ill.
sect. 2, 103-38. *' Critical Rem&rki on Sarpi and
Pallavicini " : —
*' In Sarni's Htttory of tht CounicUj the onginal au-
thorities, the sources of information, nre ^^oUfCtcd with
diligence, elaborated carefully, and u-
intelligence. Neither can we affirm tli
or that they are frequently and e?- , ,
but the conduct of the work is in a spirit of a Ueeided
opposition By this method Sarpi laid open a new pnth.
To what had been mere compilation he giLve the unity
of a general and dt^fiiiite tendency. This work is dis-
paraging, reproachful, and hoi$tiIe. It is the first
example of a history in which the whole development of
the subject is accompanied by uncea&ing censures, Tlie
clmracter of the work is far more decided in this respect
than that of Thuanus, who first made a slight ^pproaoh
tn that manner wherein Sarpi has found innumerable
followers. .... A book like the History of 8»rpi, so
richly furnished with details never before made known*
so full of spirit atid sarcasm, treating of an event an
important, and one of which the consequences exerdsed
a commanding influence on tho§e ttmes, could not fail to
produce the deepest impression. The first edition ap-
peared in 16 11^ and between that jrear and the year
1622 four editions of a Latin translation hod been pub-
lished. There were, besides, a German and a Preach
translation. The Court of Rome was the more eame&tly
determined to have this work refuted, from the fact it
contained many errors which were immediately obvious
to all who were accurately acquainted with the event!
of that period.-'
The be«t edition of the French tmnslation by
Courayer, 3 vole. 4t^., 1751, contains a defence c^
it by the author not in the former editions.
Hullam's Literature of Europe^ ii. 300 : —
'* Nothing was more worthy of remark, especially in
literary historv, than the appearance of one great man.
Era Paolo Sarpi, the firat who in wKKlern time, and in a
Catholic country, shook the fabric, not only of papdt
despcLism, but of ccolcfliaetical iudci»cndenco and power/'
The Rev. Joseph Mcndlmm. ''Memoirs of the
Council of Trmt; principally derived from Manu-
«cript and Unpublished Record?, namely, Historieft,
Diarieg, Letters, and other Documents, of the
Leading Actors in that Assembly, 1834*'
Acta CoHcUii Tridrniini Ahuo 1562 ei I563»
mqut in Fifum Concilii, A Gabride Caxdinale
Pill cot to desctipta : —
<* Tliis, writci the tditor, is an extended and highly
.'>.)..-, LI. J l.^iit^.nr .^i^i\ ig one <'f ttiK. 1.1 inriLfil rrniTillLinS
Icioo drev ''e
d. Thif »
tSic icctic^ and acts which lio j-jo^rfl^. — rn-^
Rev, Theodore Alois By.cUdt'^, "^J
0/ iU Council oj Tttivl.X'*^;^^^—
490
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t6^aiLD«al9,74
" The discrepancy between the writings of these his-
torians has been diligently, and, for the most part, fairly
sifted by the Abb6 le Courayer, who, in his translation
of Father Paul, noticed every yariation of importance,
and has shown that Sarpi too often has the best of the
eyidence in his favour. At the same time, by his careful
examination of every document and history he could
meet with, he has furnished a valuable stock of materials,
and greatly lightened the labours of succeeding historians
of the Council. But the researches of Mendham and
Ranke, as well as the massive collection of documents
published by Le Plat, have brought forward so much
that is new and valuable, that the means of information,
upon which the present little work has been based, are
largely increased."
Schelhornii Amtaiitates Littrarim it Ecclesias-
tica, I 292 :—
" Elcgantissimum est epigramma, quod Pauli Sarpii
imagini subjiciendum exhibet Bemhardus de la Mon-
noje, torn. iii. Menagianorum, p. 8, edit Paris, 1715 : —
' Et genio et scriptis ingcntem con^pice Paulum :
Hie etiam Petro reetitit in faciem.'
Effigiem ejus in Bibliotheca Bodlelana Oxonii exstare
cum hac epigraphe : Concilii Tridentini eviscerator."
Morhofii Folyhistor LitcrariuSy i. 221 : —
" Fuit illc sacri ordinis homo, Monachus, Minorita,*
sed summi ingenii. Ejus extat Historia Concilii Tri-
dentini, magna prudontia, et ingenuitate ecripta, sub
nomine Suavis Polani, quam inter absolutissima historise
specimina numerat Guido Patinus, Epist. 170, &c."
Francis Homer, Memoirs 1.: —
" For a few days past I have been reading a little of
Father Paul's Iliftory of the Council of Trent, and am
highly delighted with the unembarraFsed perspicuity of
the narrative, the good sense and precision with which
the various reasonings and views of the difierent parties
are stated, anil, above all, the sublime impartiality and
temper which holds fo fair a balance with such steadi-
ness of hand. ... I have always thought one of iMackin-
tosh's chief difficulties in his undertaking was to put
into narrative the deliberations of an afsenibly ; Father
Paul has shown how many of those difficulties are to
be overcome, and some, indeed, peculiar to this as-
sembly."
See also Mackintosh's History of the Progress of
Ethical Philosophy.
I shall conclude with the eulogy of Sarpi by
Dr. Johnson : —
*' This and other attempts upon his life obliged him
to confine himself to his convent, where ho engaj;ed in
writing the Histor>/ of the Council of Trent, a work un-
equalled for the jiuiiciuus disposition of the matter, and
artful texture of the narration, commended by Dr.
Burnet as the com])letest model of historical writing,
and celebrated by Mr. Wotton as equivalent to any pro-
duction of antiquity ; in which the reader finds liberty
without licentiousness, piety without hypocrisy, freedom
of speech without neglect of decency, severity without
rigour, and extensive learning without ostentation."
BinLIOTIIECAR. CUETHAM.
* Paulus Sarpius non fuit Minorita, sed Ordinis Servi-
tarum Monachus [Editor].
THE FIQHT AT PEBTH.
(6«» L 364, 469 ; iL 69, 189, 410, 471.)
(ConduMfnm p, iT%)
3. Mr. Shaw has been at the tremble of point-
ing out what he considers to be some inaccorades
on my part, not because they bear directly on the
subject under discussion, but '* because some judge
of a writer's whole work by his regard or disregard
for details/' For instance, he finds it necesaaiy to
repeat, what I should have supposed eyeiy one
knew, that the fight was on the North Inch. He
objects to my writing Chewil instead of QuhewiL
He will observe that, in my last letter, I mention
Quhele or Chewil as being synonymous, a point
which he does not question. He informs me of what
most writers tell us, that Duncan Stewart was leader
of the caterans in the Raid of Angus ; but, as Ms.
Shaw considers that " Wyntoun alone is entitled to
any regard as an authority in this matter," it may
interest him to notice, that Wyntoun does not
mention Stewart at all, and talks only of the Dun-
cansons, who, again, are not mentioned by Bower.
Nevertheless, the Act of 1392 (which, by some
slip, I had called 1391) makes it certain that both
were present. A further reference to Wyntontt,
like the examination of the list of those outlawed,
tends to localize (and it is in thi^ respect that it
concerns us) the origin of the Raid of Angus in a
dispute between the Highland men and Sir David
Lin(ls;iy of Glenesk. Indeed, the present Earl of
Crawford, who first displayed bis great powers of
research in his pleasant Lives of the Lindsays^ has
shown in that work, that it is not improbable that
the Duncansons had some claims on lands held by
Sir David.
Mr. Shaw says, I should have known that Sir
David was the person employed to quiet the High-
landers, not the Earl of Crawford. As Bower
calls Sir David de Lindsay also De Cntwford, the
mistake would have been a venial one. But I
used the phrase advisedly, as it is perhaps on the
whole more probable that Sir James de Lindsay,
the tnie Do Crawford, often termed Lord Craw-
ford by courtesy (the cousin, whom Sir David
succeeded in 1397 as head of the family, beiag
created Earl in 1398), was the person employed.
But it is a matter of indifference which it was.
Both held land in Angus, and Sir James in Aber-
deenshire also. Sir David was wounded at Glas-
clune.
4. I am considered to be deficient in criticaJ
acumen, and apparently to attach equal value to
all authorities whom I may quote. The compare
tive value of evidence afforded by eye-witnesses
or public documents, or historians, or traditioo,
need not be discussed here. Every inquirer Is
supposed to sift his authorities, and to know that
different historians and different tiadmons are
\^\i\I\>\%^ \a N w^a\ia degfees of aedik It is naively
v»&n.i>ic.ie,'74.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
491
W
aaked, wlmt; reason I !mve for sayioQ; that Buchannn
hivd all previous accounts Ijcforo bim. I certainly
did not stand behind Bucbanan's shoulder as he
wrote, but it is f asy to see, that be made the mia-
tuke ab<jui the nulu^^e^ of the combatantfi, from
huving the hxihi of Boece before hiui ; probably
after nU^ the triccni wm ji mere misprint for fr^^isnt,
jvifit as Bcllenden was miBled into introdiiciug the
Glen Quhattiinia by the misprint Chinkqtihete*
After all deprtciation of Buchanan for hia in-
accuracies and hL** embellishments, his opinion on
gnbjects, on which he did not entertiiin violent
prejudices, in etill quite worthy of considemtion.
And although ho wrote about two hundred years
after the (iji^ht at Perth, his work is one hun-
dred yuvYs anterior to the date, when most High-
land family histories were compiled.
But Mr. Shaw's grave&t charge has still to be
unswered. He has done me the compliment of
subjecting most of my remarks to a pretty rijjid
ficrutiuy ; it h^ therefore, the more surprising, that
he should have fallen into the odd mijjapprehension,
that I have said that "Bower's work in the Bod-
leian hiui not been printed uales.s lately.'^ In my
letter, after mentioning Bower, Major, and
e^ I go on to speak nf the continuator of Fordun
Ihe year 1461 in the Bodleian. I could not,
tberefoMN, have meant Bower, who wrote some
twenty years before. The other continuator, as is
well known* was at one tune supposed to hiivc
been Bishop El phi ns tone, but is now believed to
have been a certain Patrick BusselL As it was
from his MS. that I quoted the passaije (a transla-
tion of 'which had appeared in one of tbe bust
numbers of the London i^cQUnuin\ I am sorry that
Mr. Shaw hsuj had the trouble of eearching in
Bower, and that he bhould have made himself
unhajjpy about the authenticity of the quotation,
findiri;j; that ** it was somewhat Ktmn^e that the
paAJ^a;-!? had been overlooked"; and that he shoiiIJ
nave given himself the further trouble of obligin^dy
communicivting, for my express instniction, infor-
mation rc>pcctiD^ editions of Fordun and Bower.
Mb, Buaw can scarcely any longer compkin
that I have not replied to most of his criticisms.
1 have to thank him for theju. They have induced
me to give more attention to Wyntoun iind to
the Act of 1392. And a reference to them haj*
furnished arhiitiomd evidence, tendir;^ to localize
all thi? circum8tances connected with the Raid of
Angus ; and evidence corroborative of the con-
tlnif it was the desire to revenge the
ne, to punish at least one por-
I ncd in it, and in the continued
lit induced the Government
r combat at Perth- Thiti
, on the icconiniendation of the Com-
s appointed originally t^ cha»ti^e those
\\ iiu iuid taken part in the slaughter of the Sherili*
j©f Angu^. This seems to be ^mmi the only vi* w
|diuion,
iisoMter
i r'f t
Idler
rto
of the question that accounts at all for the Govern-
ment consenting to so unusual a form of qaasi-
Judicial procedure.
I cannot conclude this too lengthy letter, without
expressing my regret for the recent death of the
Rev. Mr. Shaw, of Forfar, who took Huch a f-piriled
share in the controversy on this siulgect, winch was
carried on in these pages some yeiin ago.
JOH.y 3lACrHERS0N.
CurEon Streei
Aristotle oh Dancino akd Poetry (5**» S. ii.
328.)— Mr. H. Becker asks for the "exaci
reference to the passage in Aristotle where he
classes dancing and poetry together.'* There are
two pfUiSijges in the Fodic« of Ariiitotle, another in
the Rkeioricj and one more in the Po//ftV^, which
may ilhistrak the subject ; but until the question
is stated more iiccunitely, and the nature or head
of the chisailication given, it is, I fear, almost hope-
less to expect an exact reference. The passages,
however, are as follows :—
upfiovia% ol [at, «cu. Tc^^'as Tynv.l tiov 6p)(jj<r-
TtuM* Kai yap o^rot [ovrw, Tyrw,] Sect twi' cr)(»^iia-
Tt fo/jtci''wv pvOfim* fJLifxo£n*Tut nal rj(hi nal waO^f
KUi ^pd^€i<i'* (Pod,j § y, p. 2, edit. Tyrwhitt,
Oxon., 1817),— *. «,, The art of diineing without the
aid of music can imitate manners, passions, and
actions by the very rhythm or measure itself^ ac-
companied with gestures.
2. ** 70 fikv yap irpdrov T€Tpififi€Tpt^ l^f^^^^*
Sm TO <raTiptt<yv Kal (lp}^r)imfi(]ifT€pn%^ ilyai T^v
Troii^-Ttv" (Ibitl^ § t, p. 12).— t.c, At first the dra-
matists adopted the (trochaic) tetrameter because
the poetry was satyric and rather of the dancinff
character.
3. **o ik Tpoxato^ KopSaKiin!*Tipo^' SijkoiSk ra
T€Tpdp,€Tpa' fcrrt yap Tpo^epu^ pvOfil^ to. rerpO'
ficrpa,"— i. c, The trochaic is t<Mj (Umcimj a metre,
and the tetrameters indicate it, being a tripping or
running measure (Hkct^ b. rii, cap. viii* § 4, edit.
Oxon., 1826, p. ITS).
4. ** 5to K-at Tarrovcrtv avr^v [t. e., pova-Ltnivl
Kcu ^wtTair Tracrt roi^ots ofionus otHi>, Kai fi€up
KfM fiovfTifa]' TiOtaa-i Bk kol r»/i* opvv^crtv €V
Tovrots," — I. C.J Men class music as a relaxatiOD,
and adopt the^se three means, wine, a carousal, and
music (poetry included ?). An<l amongst these
thev even place dancing {Polity lib. vm, cap. iv.,
ed."Lips., Tauchn., 1831).
It must be remeiubcred that the Greek word
povtriKij included poetry, especially l^ric, bs well
as music, and it therefore becomes imi>ortant to
ascertjiin both the sense in which Aristotle clasaes
dancing with poetrj^ and also the irord he used to
express the latter art. E. A* D.
The following passage from Aristotle's Art
of Fottnj may be cited, and fulfils, I truat,
492
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[5* an. Dm. IS^ "71
your correspondent's wish. Edition, Oxonii,
MDCCXJXVII : —
" TO Bk lau.piKov KOL rerpdfierpov, KiirqriKd'
TO IjJkv OpxrjOTiKOVf TO 8€ WpaKTlKOV" § xlL
" The Iambic and Trochaic have more motion ;
the latter being adapted to dance, the other to
action and business."
It is worthy of mention that the Choral Hymn
to Apollo was named vTr6px^)p.aL, from its being
accompanied with dancing ; and, moreover, the
old poets Thcspis, Pratinas, Carcinus, and Phry-
nichus, were specially called the dancing poets
{opXr)(mKo\ TTOtwrat) from making their dramas
depend on the dancing of the chorus, and even
taught dancing to those who wished to learn,
^schylus himself must have been an excellent
figure and posture master, as he is represented by
Aristophanes as saying, —
" Tot? ^opois avT09 Tot a')(T/]naT liroiovv.^
" I myeelf taught those dances to the chorus.
Which pleased so much, when erst they danced before
us."
(Cf. Athenwus, i. 27, 39, xiv. 25-30.)
William Platt.
Gonseryatiye Club.
The passage required is probably that in the
PoeticSj chap. ii. § 4, " Avt<?/' &c. :—
'* In the imitations of dance, rhythm alone is employed
without melody ; for there are dancers who, by rn^thm
applied to gesture, express manners, pa98ions,ana actions.''
— Twining^s translation, p. 102, ed. 1812.
At p. 226 he has a long note, from which it may
suffice to quote thus much : —
"Dancing is here tiansiently mentioned, merely to
exemplify what he hod heen saying of the combined or
separate use of rJti/thm, ^rords, and mdody; and to show
in what manner \\oi only melody and rhythm might be
separated from words, as in vumc; but rhythm also
might bo separated from melody, and used alone. For
such an instance he could have recourse only to dance ;
and so Aristides Quintilianus, ovO^ioq H kclQ qvtov fikv
voilTai lirl rpiXfJQ 6p;^i;(T6wc.
\V. E. Buckley.
Thomas Sutton (5*^ S. ii. 409, 455.)— The in-
dividual of this name, who was buried at Waltham
in the year 1612, could not have been the muni-
ficent founder of the Charterhouse, for tlio par-
ticulars of his life, death, and burial in Lon-
don are w^ll known. Bom at Knaith, of an
ancient Lincolnshire family, about the year 1531,
he was educated at Eton and Cambridge, became
a Member of the Honoumble Society of Lincoln's
Inn ; subsequently spent a couHiderable portion of
his time abroad ; but on his return a fortunate
purchase of property in the north of England,
upon which coal was afterwards found, led to the
accumulation of considerable wealth. He came to
London and pursued a successful mercantile
career, his business establishment being at Broken
Wharf, in the parish of St. Mary Someraet •, wid
his private residenoe at Hicknej, wbero, ai m
learn, he died on Deoember IS, 1611, at the ad-
vanced age of seventy-nine. Hia ridies enabled
him to acquire extensive estates in Cambridge-
shire, Lincolnshire, Wiltshire, and Essex ; and it
was at Little Hallingbaiy, in the latter ooonty,
that he intended to erect his projected hosmti],
but purchasing the Carthosian Monasteiy in Lon-
don of Lord Suffolk for 13,0001, he endowed it is
the charity under the title of the Hospital of King
James. He did not live to witness the completion
of his work ; and it was owins to the chapel being
unfinished at the time of his decease that nis body
was temporarily entombed elsewhere. Dr. Bear-
croft, in nis History of the Charierhouit^ pabUshed
in 1737, states that '* his bowels were buried in
the parish church at Hackney," and that his body
was embalmed by one Edmond Phillips, apothe-
cary, and preserved in the hoose until May 28,
1612, when ^^ the roads being good," the govenion
(whom he enumerates) "met in assembly there,
the procession being organized under the direction
of the celebrated Camden, Clarencieux King of
Arms.'' A hundred old men. in black cloaks pre-
ceded the corpse, " which was then deposited io
Christ Church, London," to be removed to the
Charterhouse, when the chapel should be finished,
and a vault and tomb prepared for it. These ar-
rangements were not completed until the year
1614, as shown by the following extract from Br.
Bearcroft's book : —
"And now the Founder*8 tomb being finished, his
corpse was brought, upon the shoidderg of the poor
brethren of his foundation, from Christ Church, on
December 12, IGU, the anniyersary of Mr. Sutton'j
death, in a solemn procession, all the membere of the
Hospital attending, to the chapel in the Charterhoose,
and there deposited in a vault on tbe north side under
his magnificent tomb."
In the year 1842 this chapel was under repair,
and an opportunity was afforded for an examina-
tion of the vault beneath Thomas Sutton's mona-
ment. Tlie leaden cofl&n containing his remaiw
was then discovered, bearing upon it the simple
inscription, " 1611, Thomas Sutton, Esqumr." The
coffin resembled a " mummy case " in form, being
adapted to the shape of the body, and was similaf
to one used in 1609 for the interment of Sir John
Spencer, Lord Mayor 1593, in the church of St.
Helen's, Bishopsgate. The woodcut in the 6tn-
ihmaWs Magazine for January, 1843, was copied
from a drawing? made at the time by my father,
the late Mr. E. B. Price, F.S.A. This original
sketch is still in our possession. I have not at
hand the means of ascertaining whether there was
any connexion between the Suttons of Lincoln-
shire and those of Essex. Morant, in his History,
mentions one Sir Hamond de Sotton, temp. Ed-
ward I., who, it would seem, took his name froiQ
the parish of Sutton, near Hawkswell and Boch-
^iotd m EfiBAiL ; and it is quite possible that the
.II.0ec.19, -«]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
493
Butt4>nB buried at Waltbam may be desoendADti
of this ancient fiimily. The surname is, however,
^ft by no means uncommon one* Heraldry, says
It. Lower, attests its commonneas by nmgaing
I it more tlmn filYy difl^erent coata of anns. The
led by the family in Lincolashire were, ajs
if, Or on a chevron, betwe*?n tliree aunuleta
tles^ sts insiny cresoents or ; while those of the
sx Buttons above referred to were vert, a
crooBJety three cups argent.
John Edward Price, F.S.A.
^0, Albion Koad, Stoke Kewiagtoti.
m ^ Bov V, V TVuNDEE •* (6ti* S. ii 6, 154, 357, 437.)
^ — I vsTEiL^s pardon for questioning the
^Moc4! atate^nents ; but is he not ini.=itaken
^■In it^ Clementina Stirling Gmhame
^■*'Ci s Itist linml (Usecnduiit ? '* I can-
not »<?e how Claverhouse — " Bonnie Dundee " —
ociiild have any ih^cemtanU at all, as h\s only
' Id died an infant. According to all the his-
and pedigrees I ever feaw, the ehier line of
time of Chivc^rhouse became extinct in the
of David J third Viscount Dandee (only
her of the first VisconntX on whose death in
?• H) the reprtiientation of the fiunily devolved on
' \ivid Grahame of Dimtroon, titular
r« tit ; and the present family of Dun-
-. •nded from this Utter David*B third
I bore the same name,
^time a;:jo I put a question in **N. & Q."
at the Grahame family, \iz.f whether there
or ever had been, any direct dacmdunts
&f Jamcw titular sixth Viscount Dundee (gmndson
Df I lie I'hovo David, being the wn of his eldest
'mm ' who died at Dunkirk in 175B. I
fee*' il courteous replies, but none which
Sve im? tiiJtf precise information I wanted. I,
iwever, did not renew my appeal, because I
lihought I had obtained a clue which would enable
ne iri tind out what I vianted without further
: " N. & Q," and ita correspondents. I
this ; and now^ that Bonnie Dundee and
iija larniiy are again bcin^ discussed, I beg leave
[to repeat my quer}% Did James Grahame of
on, Eiirth Viscount Dundee, leave any
and, if 80, what diud dacnidants did
^loave? M. L.
HUg Ol^rnentina Stirling Grahame is not the
lonly repf ■ of the Claverhoase now living.
Dundee represented by the family of
ke, C'l whom the head is the Ri^ht Hon.
Brooke, one of the Lords CommLs«ioners
' ■ ' "* ^ ' :id. A particular ae-
BurkQB VicUsitmhs
iu.^-i.it , uu'M i I Jilt Hector Grahame of
Lwu" J. M. G. Brooke,
Thomas TaEoossE (5"* S. it 341.}— The Lift
and Dioth of ThmiuiR Trcffosse^ Late Minister
of th^ Gogpel at Mihr and MaU m (hm-
wally London, 1071, 8vo., is not an extremely
scarce book. In the British I^Iuseum there ape
two editions, both daied in 1671, the second only
varies from the first by the pagination being more
perfect, and by the list of errata being omitted.
The authorship of this anonymous work is attri-
buted to ficv. Theophilus Gale, M.A, (Fellow of
Ma^d. Coll., who was preacher at Winchester
Cathedral until he was ejected in 1G62; he died in
1678, aged but forty- nine, and was buried in Bun-
hill Fields), by the lie v. Dr. Bliss, in his edition
of Wood, iii. li^L Other accounts of the Rev. T.
Tregoase are to be found in Palmer's Nmicon-
formiift Mrmorial (1775), i. 286-87, Mtihodist
Magazine, xxxviii. 161-67 (1S14), Journal of
Rer, Jokn IVahy, Sept. 4, 1775. A reprint of
Tfic Life and Death of Thomas Trtgouc^ very
slightly lihridged, is also given in The Livu of
Sundry Emintiti Ptrtons in this Later Age^ by
Samuel Clark, sometimes pastor of Bennet Fink,
London, Lond., 16S3, 4 to., contained rn pp. 109-26.
We are not aware that the story relatmg to ilie
Pilchard fishery at St. Ives, as told in the Xi/<,
has been reproduced in any work on ComwaU, but
miiny similar tales have idwaya been current in
the county.
TaE Authors of the '* BiBLioreficA
GoRNUBtENSia."
Calam^, in A Continuation of tlu Aoiount of
the Minuter»j tCc, Wio were Ejected, etc., I^ondoo,
MDCcxxvii., vol. i, p. 98, in writing of Mr. Theo-
philus Giilc, ^LA., says : —
*' And to the Account given of hii Works, p. ^, thii
Addition may be mikde : He wrote alfto tlie life of Mr.
Thomas Trcgosse*"
In the NonconfommCi Mtmorialy London,
HBcctxxv. (vol. i. p. 19^^^ amongst Gale*8 w^orks
is mentioned T/fc Lt/<; of Mr. Tross, an evident
mis-spelling. Tr^osse dietl January 18, 1679.
JoHi^soN Bailt.
OsnoRNE Family (5"» S. ii. 187.)— Lord Gort
is prt>bably not aware of an error in the published
accounts of the Osborne baronetage. On the
death of the third baronet, Sir John, in April,
1713, he was succeeiled by his brother, Richard,
m fourth baronet : he was a lunatic, and died
without Lsftue in October, 1713, leaving three
sisters : Grac^, wife of Beverley Ussher, Esq. ;
Eiiziibeth, wife of the Very Rev. Arthur Pomeroy ;
and Anne, wife of Oiarlca O'Dell, Esq., his co-heirs.
His coutjin, Sir Thomii^, then became fifth baronet,
v.ho^e gramlson, Sir Nicholas, sixth baronet, left
two daughters, his co-heirs, at his death, Mav 13,
1716, viz. : Anne, wife of Henry Vere Ker, Esq.,
and Dorothy, wife of William Taylor, E^q- of
Mallow, L<:»RD Gort seems to ignore ilrs. O^Dell
and ^IrR. Taylor, although, if their descendants
have not faile^i, they ai^ co-re^veatt^UAxN^c*. ^1 ^Sofc
494
NOTES AND QUERIES. i«» a il d«l w^ 7*.
fourth and sixth baronets reipectlTely. Lord
GoRT will find &ome partkukis of the faiailj Id
Brown's ParL Cases, yol yi- p* 20*
Sir Eicbard, the fifst baroQet^ died m 1638^ bis
vn£e is said to have been Marv, second daughter
of Sir George Carew, Lord fieputy (ber elder
Bister Grace ia said to have married Wakh,
by whom she was mother of Sir Nicholas Walsh
of Piltown, near Waterford), by whom be had
fomr SODS and one daughter, Mary, wiJe of Dr.
Gough, Bisbop of Limerick, The sona were : {1)
Sir Ei chard, second boronet, who married Eliza-
beth ? Mvijig at his death, March 2, 1684-5 ;
(S) Nicholas, of Cappagh, Clerk of the CrowD,
father of Str Tbomaa, fifth baronet ; (3) Eoger ;
and (4) Sir John Osborae, of London, Kt. (1681^2),
I do not know anything of Osborne, Sheriff
0/ the Cmtnfy of Dubhn, who died July 20, 16^4,
except that bis wife waa a Miss Walan of Eillin-
cargej co, Wick low, if I may judge m from the
arms impaled with his in Fun, Mnt^ toI. t, p. 47*
Richard Edwiirds, Master of the Tailors* Company,
of DubHn, died January II, 1640. His first wife
was Margaret, dangbter of John Osborne, of Dub-
lin. His anus are given in Fun. EnL ix. 233, as
"Ar^nt, a chevron engrailed between three
Cornish choughs/^ impaling Oabome^ " Gules^ a
fease argent, cotised or, charged with two fountains,
ppr., over all a bend of the second," Sherifl^ Os*
norne bad precisely the same arms, differing
alight ly from those borne by the baronet's family,
the fcsae being argent iostead of on Sir Robert
Ofibornc was knighted by Robert, Earl of Essex,
Lord Deputy, September 24, 1599, and Sir Thomas
by the Buke of Ormonde L,L., November 5, 1679
or 108(1 Any information respecting Sir George
Sexton and his fiimily will bo gladly received by
one of bis desceadtmta. Y. S. M.
" Saxadon *' (b^ S. ii, 285, 456.)— Tbia is
nothio;! but a stupid and unmeaniiig joke^ which
it is difficult to believe wjis ever printed in any
edition of Horace, Sanadon was a French editor
or translator of Horace — ^as I believe, utterly bad
nnd decried, and never mentioned without an
invective, like Pauw'a ^^ichylus^ or Bentley'a
Milton* LvTraLTON*
Ants latino ur Coen (2"*^ S. xl 389, 475.) —
I am not aware that the attention of your reatters
has been directed upon this question to HaTvest-
ing Anf3 and Trap-door ^^{rfer*, by J. Traheme
Moggridge, F.L.S, (London, Recre & Co.), pp. 156.
The work will well repay perusal^ and the reader
will regret to learn that the aiithor*a labours were
closed by his early death at Men tone, on 24 th
November. Geo, E. FtiEHE, F.B.S.
Armour in Churches (5^^ S, ii. 388.)— In
Parker's Correiptindence^ No. cclxv., and iJot,
Ann^j L 347 ^ May 6, 1509, will be found a letter
ordering & levy of armour horn all the diergj of
the province ef Cimterbiiiy according to the statute
4 and 5 Ph* et Mar,, c* 2, repealed 1 Jac. L, c 25^
L47. There ii a Ikt of armour in mv Hist, of§L
argartVSj Watminiter. The churchwardens' &&•
count at Cheddar for 1S40 containa these enlrici
under Constables' Account : — " Paid the furbor fee
dressing the armour"; " Paid for a payre of bonde^
lear^B 2T. 8^.6d/^; **Paid the soldiers forpresfiemoD^
0^- Cd,"; " Paid for canyinge the armor to Bridf>^
water 12j/*; ** Spent npon the trayners at Bridge-
water 12rf."-^(Jftte. MS8. Comm., 3 Rep, ix 330.)
See also " For levying armour among the clergy af
Bedfordshire ''(I^nsdown filS., xc. n. 86); " Boiae-
men aod armour of clei^. diocese of C^nterbtuy,
1668" (l&td., xi. n, 54); Inventory of Armour of
Chichester Cathedral, and Battle deaDeiy^(HaiL
MS., 703j fo. 8&, 153).
Macebheis E. 0 Walcott.
Barony op Totkess (5*^ S, ii. 308.)-* I hkjt
in luy possession a manuscript history* of DeTou,
very much damaged by fire and water. The first
three pages and the title-pa^e are missing, but I
believe it to have been written by Baitl:^OQ»v^
White.
I extract, for the infonnation of D. C. E., whtt
he says as to the Barony of Totness : —
" Thi§ Town of TotncM j* Conq*' gave w** a ptd
Eitate to y* noble Korman» Itidaote^ where he ptiadpAllj
seated liimfelfj erected a Castle now tbreatn^ mine aod
bold it J* cliifif pt&cQ of his Bar^Tiif ; into-nmcb jf* be
was y^*" of stikd de Totucfij : K. H. 2 ga^r y* L'Hiltip of
Totness uaCo W Eec^inaM de Bru' and £. John rruiuiDei
it ARain, upon displeasure ag'* de Bruer, and delJTerd f
Giittio to y keeping of ilenrj, y* eoh of y E. of Com-
walU but afternardi \tA y land ag^in. arid y^ Itii M\
it to E^^n.bis yoimg^eBt duu. wife of y* L*" Cauto1upe,rraia
W^ family by Milctieent ^iBtcr of Geo. Cautelupe, U came
to EmMe la Zr>U€)n and f^ reiaairi'' bi'fore Jobn L'^
Zoucb woa iilUmtC'Ll for tulcing p^ with £^ B- ^ ^ j" E-
H. 7 bcBtuir'd TotD«Ed on W Richard Bdgecfi'tDb, w^ tie
be Id in Fpetrinle fair, ia wba&Q po&tetity it reuMiiit'd,
untitl pi ores Edgecomb lold y' lion* unto y* L^ Ed*^
Seymour-'*
Aad at p, 223 of the same manuicrtpt, I find,
under the bead of —
" Tlic Baronyi of tliii County, and how moiiy E" fl«^
were held by these Hon^, with tbo Ensigni of tij«if
ancient cwtiera: — Ee^iniLld BreAfe held y Csfitle v^
bon' of Tola ess by V gift of E. H. 2^, w^* ^tohv in
KiDg:Jn" time waa divided, whereof W~Breafteh^25
K^* ffeea and 1ml f, and Hen. Nonant 2Ti of a K' ^t±.
Edward Seamour bath tbii hon*. "
JonK Pi RE IX.
Idritigebay, Wirksworth.
'* Eau de Tib" (5*^ S. ii. 285.)— There i^ be
but little do Lib t that Bescherelle ia wrong. Tk
temi tun dc vk occurs in documents at least as far
back as the fifteenth century, juat aa kv^fnh icaifr
h the term used in Flemish documents from the
fifteenth to the seventeenth eentuiy.
S*<.I>te.l»,T4|
NOTES AND QUERIES.
495
A Scotch BARO!«ETrT (5^ S, il 288») — Burke'*
, Exiiiict aivt DonnasU liaronctrUd of Enffhntl^
Irxlfind^ and Scothndy 2o«l ed*, Lood.^ 1^04, Svo,
I If tlif jjnrticuLir biironclcy on tvhich infonuaiion
Ms 't^anted wero known, references could probably
b© iiia*ie to the above and other aiithoritit'3,
Gaston de Berneval.
PbilAdeliOtm.
*^ The Court CoxrERT,'* &c (5«» S. iL 345,)—
This and some other be^^i^' books haTe been
treated of in 1" S. vi. 551. In addition to what
the^e found, I would supplement it by further
f of H. A- and H, W, being identicidj and one
irm of Uteraiy impostors. Here it is :—
•* The AoceM, or Permitted Approach of a Court Peni*
«nt to tho DiTinu Astr«», by H. W., gent Printed,
-^fto of 36 p<iges» aJdressod to " Lady
-t," The name imprinted, as usual,
IKKket-press.
by H. \V., gent., after the first fevv
ry easily into Tht Court Convert^ by
lient I
|I
A., gent, which it nearly reprint* ! A. G.
Hen'rv Hyde, op PaRTOK (5*^ S. ii. 347.) —
[Henry Hyde, sei'ond Earl of Clarendon, married,
lin?t^ Thcodosia, third .surviring daughter of
Arthur, Lord Oaiiel, by whom he had issue his
only Bon Edward^ Lord Conibury, who succeeded
third Earl ; secondly^ Flower, daughter and
aK. iifLV,.^>5 to William Backhouse of Swallowfi eld,
(lire, Esq., and widow of Sir William
.0, of the City of London, Bart., by whom
he iLad no issue. Lawrence Hyde, Earl of Roches-
f, uian-ied the Lady Henrietta, fifth daughter of
lie hard Boyle, Earl of BurLngton and Cork, and
bad issue one son, Henry, who wivjj afterwards
irl of Clarendon and Rochester, and four
jbters : — Anne, married to the Duke of
)nnond ; Henrietta, married to the Earl of Dal-
keith ; Mary, married to Lord Conway ; and
■^jitherine, who appears to have died unmarried.
The Hyde arms were : Azure, a chevron between
lirec lozenges, or. Edward Solly.
Sutton, Bunrey.
HF.n,\T.T»Tr (r^^ 8. ii. 340,)— The translation of
Ihe French doi^ei iption of a coat of arms is, — Sable,
E>n an escutcheon, argent, batons, tleur-de-lises pa-^aed
crop's and in aaltire (Le.^ an escarbuncle ftory),
over all on an escutcheon, ai^ent, a cavalier, or,
in armour on horseback, sable. The arms
Iboao of Anmanrl, Contte de Schomberg, the
Eltch#on over all bein^r for ^lertola.
A W. M.
Jambs Pierce, i —Full par-
tfmljups of Mr. Jai: t]m Litin
1 1 ' n propo«e<1 Jor in;, t .itjfi, iiu* objected to
[l tor, wilt be found in Murch'n UUionj of
IK 43tl K.
"Sbakspkarr axd the Musical Glassics^
(5t*» S. ii. 4(18} will be found in GoldsmilU'tJ Vitar
of JFakfJUid, 9th Chapter. E. J. C,
[We hare to tbank filovcTi corrttspomlotiU wliOt tttb<-
flcquently to the aboTC, kindly lent limilftr •niwcn.)
Marriages in Lent (5**^ S. ii» 3C7.)— Bingham,
Lhri^incs EccJ^iiaitict^ (London, 1722), vot ix,
p. 337, Siiys : —
'* The most ancient prohibition that^r 'of
this kifitl ia that of the Council of Laodico ..).
which forbiJs all MarriJiffM M well as Uii..... ..,. ... b©
cclebrAtcd in Lent."
Dumndus, L ix. 7, gives the prohibition in his
day as extending to the periods from Adrent
Sunday to Epiphany, from BeptuagesUaa to the
Octave of Easter, the three weeks before the fea»t
of St, John Baptist, and from the first day of tho
Rogations to the Octave of Pentecost.
Bingham {Orig. Eccl, ix. 338) gives as the*
authority for this o.ttende<i prohibition tlj« Council
of Salegunslade, a.d. 1022, under Benedict VIII.
and the Emperor Henry II,
Htimpson, Mcdii yEvi KaUmlariumf ii* p. 4,
quotes the bnes : —
** Conjugtuin Advontus prohibot» iniarifrquc rclaxftl;
Heptuagcnft vctat, st'd Pft»cba» Octava rcduclt;
Ilogatio vetitutj cuncpiUt.Triiia potcitai.*'
Archfleacon Cosin, in his VMatimi AHicUiy
1027, inquires—
** Whether hath your Miaiiter or Cun*t4» .... pokmn*
izod Matrinionio .... in any tiiiiei i>fi>Uibited {that id
to Bay)^ in Adirent, Lent, aud in tho Koirutions vrithout tk
Licence fint obte?nod from the Archbishop or hii Chao^
cellour r'— CosiiA Correip.t L 11}5.
In the Durham Prayer -Bo ok, Coain added, in
MS., to the Table of the Vigik, &c. :—
**By tho ece1e«iMtical laws ot thii B«ik1 mi there bo
tome timcB in tho year wherein Manlagei are not
usually Bo1einn:zed, viz.,
{Adfent 1 o . I tf 8 <1 iphany,
ttogatiun
\ SundAj
I until
8^1
^ .3 M
jTiu..,
•ter.
The Annotaitd Booh of Connn-oa Prayrr, p. 263,
mentions the existence, in Register Bookt dating
lf>3(>, 1641, 1666, of similar notices of prohibition.
Very few Churchmen, even in our lax days, would
choose to enter into marriage during Lent*
Jonmoa Baily.
Sharpc, Archbbhop of York, in a cliarge of 1750,
names the prohibited times. Bee Mtmt't Aniuh
t<tUd Book of Comnwn Prayff, p. 203.
J. T. F,
H&taeld Htli, Dttrhuo.
The practice of rrying dur-
ing Lent, in En, y been de-
clining, but WW pruUat»l) iiiver, uor i« it now,
entirely out of aae* It is one of thoii© g«>dly
496
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(5* a IL Dm. 19,71
Bud pious cuBtotni which most cntholic-iniiided
men would nse^-indeed, everj devout maa, wlier-
ever it were possible, M, T. will raosfc likely :
Temember the disettaaion which wiia Fniaed when ,
the Prince of WaJes wjis mnrried in Lent.
a F. S. Waerek, m.a.
Origin of tub Eotal House of SrcTART
(5**^ S. ii, 367.)— Aa Lord Ashhurtoii's MemoiTit of
tk€ Royal House of France ia now a scarce and
expensive book, and I do not Icnow of any other
mwiem work mentJOBija}? the fact^ perhaps some of
" N* & Q/a " correspondents may be iinfiware that
the correct pedigree of the Stuarts seema to have
been well known in the fourteenth century, though
afterwards forgotten, till re-discovered by Pinker-
ton or Chalmers^ whether of the two^ I «m neither
careful nor able to say. Lord Ashburton say a
(p, 125) that Richard Fitiakn^ Earl of Arundel,
sold to Edward IIL what right he might have to
the Stewardship of Seotland, Now this transac-
tion (as his lordship utmarks) c;in only possibly be
explained by supposing it well known to all parties
that the Stewarts were a branch of the FitsEalans.
Lord Asbbnrton mentions it as an illustration of
& point he ^eeka to prove, that there was more
genealoijical kuawkdge at that time than is some-
times thought ; and the fact is certainly a curious
one, 0, F. S, WAnRE^^ M,A.
Inn OH mtist be right, J. 0, Roger wrong. Of
John Pinkerton being the dificoverer of this origin,
nothing Keenis known* The late fiuuous legal
antiquary, John Rid dell, £*{[,, Advocatei Bdia-
burgo, in his work, ^i£j«£irH^n^, published in 1843,
shows, hy various expressions, that, in his view,
Mr. C halm era was the tme discoverer. In that
work^ which exhibits the greatest acuteness and
research, but is withal ill expressed, he (p, 55)
refenj to "Mr. Chalmers's origin of that Royal
Fiunily as firal dii'uhjai in the Vakdotiia " (Cakd.j
voL i, 572-7)p And ngain (at jj. G2) speaks of a
letter to the author *^ from Mr. Ghaluiers himself,
rahcr of fhe. thfor-y" For an exceedingly able
paper on **The Stewarts/' refert^nce may be made
to that by the Rev, Mr* Eyton, in the Joumal of
the Archtrological Imtiiidc of December, IftSS.
R.
**TrrE Cry of Natche" (5«* S. 11 367.)-See
"N, & Q.;' 3^^ S, ii. 14, under Ilanm Vmnie^
Mvarigiluki I or, (Ac Comic Fro^js fnrnal ^fdho-
diiU^ 17S6, another of the works of John Oswald,
Eesitles these he published EvphTomfne; or, an
Oth to Bmuiy^ addressed to Mrs. 6roueh, 4 to,,
l7Bri J and PocvUj to which is added Hie Hum&urM
of John BttU, an operatic farce, 12 mo, 1789: these
last two under the nom <f# pitting of Sylvester
Otway, In support of the views of the Jacobins,
with whom he was connected, Oswald also wrote
several politiml paniphietSj tot wHcli le© Watt ;
and for a memoir of the anthor, see yqL L of the
Liveg of the Scots P<kU^ ISmo,, 182L A. 0.
" OtrR ArrBCTioMB a^d PAseiosre^^ &a (6*^ S.
ii, 368.)— Wordsworth, in his ode InHmsiiong $f
Imvwrtalily fr&m B^kdi4>m qf Ea^lf Chili-
hood j has expr^eased th^ eentlmenta referred la
W, EL BucBUiT,
New Works SuoaKtriD bt AnTiiov8(5^3.
ii, 385.)—
"Mr, Darwin might write a new bookt U1iisfci«llTe tf
a prebistorie coMinon uicevtry, from tb« fibles of Syria,
India J and Greece, tliat t«ll of Mitmul wi«d^ia,"'-Tb«
MdinhKTffh Rt^it^f toL catxatviii* (1373), p, 33.
F» jL £DWAaz}&
SiL%^ia Star (5*** 3, il 388,}— Yonr corr^pon-
dent will find a §111 explanation of the meaning of
this masonic ornament , with the legend in t^iiim
(We live in a world of wonders !), in the Frtwmm^
a periodical not sufficiently known to the sdai-
tific world, as it is a grand repoeitory of "thinga not
genendly known " to ordinary historians and ^J-
siologists, theologians, aatronomeTsi, and tragedius,
KlRBT^l^ "WONDEKFUL AND EcCEXTBlC M^-
SECM ^' (5tb S, ii, 3<5e,)— The plate as fionti^ieee
to vol, iVp is in my copy ; it ia ** Doctor Isaac
Goaset died Dec, 16, 1812, aged sixtj-eight. Tb?
greate&t collector of curious old hooka of his time"
It ia evidently a caricature, and was, perhapi,
euppressed on that ^coouxit, Behei,
A plate of the " Chevalier d^Eon de Beanmonl,'^
on on© knee, in a fencing attitude, forms the froa-
tispiecc to the copy of vol. iv* in the Mancheijt*r
Free Library* B.
**Gate'* (5"» S, ii. 40G.)"What is a chain trf
gate I Jefferey Dudley, "Ej^quycr" of RusscU^a
Htill, Dudley, 1571, leaves to Thomas Dudley, hii
son, his " cheyne of ^\itf It appears from hia
will that he was Eangcr "of all luy Lord's chas^^
and parkes within the count ye id ." Was
thia his budge of office I " H, S* G.
This terra is by no means peculiar to Dovedale
or to Derbyshire ; it is in use in the city aiid
county of York, and when reduced to writing,
should appear as §ait. It ts to be found in the
Olomanj of FromndalUtm of East YorhAm,
lately reprinted from M,irahali*s Rural ^coiWDiy
of Yofbihits^ 17SS, by the English Dialect Society
" Gait (ppon, gcefU}^ »&,, a going place ; as a cov-
gait ; the going of a cow in a summer pstnre."
St, Swrrsiir,
A cow-gate and a sheep- gate are ternis in every-
day use in both Lancashire &nd Yorkflbiie* i>
few days ago I heard of a pending Uwrnit, the
point at issue being whether or not tbe own^^f
fi»&iL Die. 19,74] NOTES AND QUERIES.
** sates " in ju U also tlie owner of the nimea and
uuBeials^ H, FisnwicK, F.S.A.
' '" "^ • [rnudng; land in the west of the county
W:i lie cow br its supposed etiuivalents,
^u ji I .kiiiij^i or sii aheep, are willed a * cxjllop/^
^ " J'jSEPn FiBHEB.
aterford.
This is no provinctal tenii, but a common legal
one- ** Sheep - gates," "cnttle-gatea,** occur in
lUAoy old deeds. In those of our fnuiily e3?tnte
(county of Durham), such rights na those nUuded
lo by Mr, Jesbk are d* nr mi inn ttd ** »tints/' In
northern parlance j^ait m a toud or way, or walk ;
90 ** 8boo[Hgatea ** aw " sheep-walks, "
ffAicBs Hekrt Dixok,
Elizabeth Hamilton (5*^ S. iL 406.)— If H.
will oonsidt the General Index to the Fourth
iSeries, under this lady's name, ho will find some
j notice of the work he alludes to. Several of my
I queries with regard to this hidy are Btill un-
I answered. Olpiiar Hahst.
*^Thr Vagabond,'' bt Oeorgk Walker (6^
I B. 11. 4Uft.) — I have only met with one copy, in two
kirniall Tohimes, well bound, now iu my library.
I The work ia entitled " jTAe VaqahmuU A novel
fill two volumes. VoL L by George Wftlken
iTliird e<iitioD, with notes. London, printed for
\i^. VVrdker.** It ia a third edit inn with notea^ tmd
I to the riiglt Rtvertnd Father in CWl
r/>r«l Bishop of LLiuJaif, date 17t>I#.
I..> ed for G. Widker. Ko. 10«, Great
Pof (t ; and Hurst, 32, Piitemoster Row.
Tht ^ \i*j\xbond is clovcrly writleo, und intended iis
an answer to Paine nnd other reformists of tlmt
'7 ^'>. The author, in his Preface, recommends Iub
1 ors to peruse De LoLtue. Perhaps some reader
■" ' *ouie account of the author, und the date
ith. Did he write any other works ?
'Hubert SMUn.
George Walker wrote numerous things beaides
n ' T'«tj^5<mii. An interesting account of him
i be found in the Bim. Diet., 181G ; and
refers to Watt's Bib. Brit Wlien did
Oli'iiah Hamst,
TD.F^\!f Vine (r>^ S. ii. 305.}— This subject was
well renfi^'^-i ^ ^ 'niie bnck in "N. &Q,,"*
bat no Tr ed iit.
% or co^^
the^'M;
I] u LtiU i^tiO}l>i-r.
Ao i. Over the " rm
idjf of th<
[• e«f *' N. k Q., i'* S. L 277, 308. 379.}
" " Ellen *s hands bftd taught to twine
The Ivy und Idflcan Vino,
The CtcnitiiiB, the faroored flowor.
That bo&fits the name of Virginal Dower.**
From a letter I received from Mr. Britten of the
British Museum, I quote the following words, that
seem to set the matter at rest : —
" I have always looked upon Scott*t ' Id^oa Viiie* ai
an ima^natjve semi-olasaicol name for the ClemaiiB, the
words being read tbot : —
*Tlic Ivy and Id»e:in Vine—
The Clematid— the favoarcd flower,
That boasts the name of Virgin Vbower.* **
A. D, H.
T. Allinotoit (5*^ S. i. 288 ; ii 135.)— Will
Olpiiar Hamst for;^dve my not having noticed
his remark in p. 135 ] I had left my home for the
Continent when that number of '*N* & Q.*' arrived ;
it wus Buhnequently mislaid, and has been only
juiit recovered. Many years ago I had been struck
with a pleasing little poem inserted anonymously
in a country newspaper : long afterwards I recog-
nized it in a small volume of poems by T. Ailing*
ton, lying on the table of a professional waiting-
room ; but I did not obaen'c where, or by whom,
it had boon publiahed. I am much obliged to
Olphar Hamat for the kind trouble he has taken
ill the matter. T. W. Webb.
"NtJRJLiA'* (G*»» S. ii. 407.)-*The author h
William Mudford. See Biofj, Did,, 1816, and
Tht London Caktloffuc for 18(MVl 827, published
in 1827. OLraAR ilAiiST,
[Sec «nU, pp. leo, 210.]
TaE Herhit of Red-Coat's Grekn (5^ S. ii,
423.)— It may be interesting to note that I was
told, by the late George H odder, that Charles
Dickens employee! him to see this eccentric jft'Pion
and report on him, and that be never hiniiielf
risitcdnim. MoBTmER Collins.
The Aitstralian Drama (6»^ S. L 423 ; ii. 66,)
— ^Further additions : —
1. liuymcnd, L^M of Milan: a tHM^fdy of the tliir
teenth c'cnturv. By Edward Reeve. Sydney, 1851.
o Tt . li /; ^'tdttey: an extravftganza, ByJacoes
Sit 11, produced in Sydney, ]8r'9.
J ^. Thr ttlsnle of thf* TOT'frenftniei
in - :„^
til 9,
»fe i_ , :, „. [.-.-.'. „ith
genius, imd who^e " tflkcuhy tor poetic tranalation wm
foiueUiinvt wouilerfiil/*— />«»tJeAv> Vidt Harton'i LiU'
rnturt in X. 6'. W, pp. 86, 1&6 ; Barton's Proie and
E. A. P.
AnDsra and Castles or Sootlanh (r»»** S. iL
28<», 432.)— Surely fiuch stind.ird works .is Grose's
AntuftUlitv and Cord intra RtmarkahU Hu%n$
should be addrd hh worthy predcccHiturs of the
Tery beailLiful engravings by* Mr. Billiti^ Mskwi^
498
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5 "8. 11. Dec 19, 74.
Virtue k Co, published my Ecoti-MonasHcon this
year, Dr. Cordon having, unfortuDatelyi left his
work incomplete.
Mackenzie E, C. Walcott,
Paul Jones's Action (^^ S, iL 348, 3!>G.)—
I am much oblrged to Mr, Thorburn for the full
information given aa to Capt. Pearson of ihe
Serapia. I dare say he will kindly add to that
obligation. The paintinjT in question h by nn
uraateur, Thomas Mitchell, Esq., sun*^^eyor of the
navy about the above da.te. I belicvo aevetid
large abips, possibly the Royal George, were
from his designs, I should be glfld to hear any
porticulara of him or of bis work. He was self-
tAUgbt as a piuntor^ but exbibLted iimeli skill and
power. Having perfect knowledge of ship con-
struGtioUt "i^tl being acquainted witb all the naval
heroei of the tiuiej who gave him personal de-
icriptioDs of their battles, he had i!ome ap3cial
qimlificationa. Among the pictures by him is
Iiord Kodney^s engagement, that of the Isis and
Casar, and many others, I believe some by him are
in Greenwich Hospital, Tlie Imttle of the Isia and
Coesar was a very gallant affiiir ; the former, a
fiftj'-gun ship, under Capt. lUynor, beat of!" a
French of seventy-four guns, whoae captain, the
* celebrated Bourgainville, lost an arm in the action*
What was the subsequent career of Capt, Eaynor ]
E. Elton,
WbeatUy.
K0TE3 ON BOOKS, ic
Memoira nf llu Cieit Want hi JVala and the
MaTcJtci!, KA-2-lU-ill By John Holland Phillips.
2 vols, (Lou^L^nuans & Co.)
Jm one sense, the story of the great Civil 'War 13 a
story without end. ^lany writer^i biive ^^ added
Bomethinj^ new" to it ; many htive "ninde enlarge-
ment too"; and now we have Mr. Phillips, who
has gone to fre^ih sources, and from them has
drawn materials for a history which, in every ptige,
is attrtictivc, am] which ia notcwarth y fur its ori-
ginality, fairncHB, and pictorial power of expresgion.
After a Incld Introduction, wc have a f^ketrh of
tbecauscii which led to the war, till divided Waki^
sent a body of her hedgers and ditclier^ to take
valiant part on the King's si^de, at Kdgehill, where
Essesc caught Charle;* and stopt hid advance on
London. The br;ive Welshmen lost many an after-
day, but never their honour. They pfmred out
their blood at Tewkesbury and Hereford, under
tho Marquis of Hertford. Waller shook tlieir
laurela when he took the second-named city ; but
the Welshmen gave up their lives for the cause on
many a bloody field in the Principality and the
Marches ; and it was not till after Naieby that
^e Welsh could he recruited in any lotge numbers
for the Parliament ; one Tesult of wMch wic, th^t
Fairfax, witE Welsh aid, captured Harlech, the
la^t of several such successes in Wales, in 1617.
On the other hand, old Parliamentonaos went
over to the Royaliits, but Oroni well's Ironsides
made their mark at Tenby, Chepstow, and Pem-
broke, At the latter place, three able deserters
from the Parliament army were taken prisoners
Langhame, Foyer, and PowelL They wer« tried
in London^ and were condemned to be shot. The
Government, however, asked but for one life The
three oSicera dmw lota (or rathei*, a cbild drew
for the three), on two of which were inscribed,
*^LifQ given by God." Colonel Foyer drew the
blank On an April morning, in 1640, be stood
calmly in front of a p]att>on of men, in the Fioiza,
Coven t Garden ; and there he fell dead under the
voUey they discharged at kim. We conclude bv
cordhdly recommending Mr. FhiUips'a book to ail
wbo care to read many new and most interring
chapters in the history of England and Wales.
The KUhditngtiiilied. The Fall 0/ £A< Xidtilun^jfrt,
Qihtrif^hi the Book of KritmhUd. Translated bjlfU*
hum Nansom Lcttsoiti. (WltliiLmi & Noi-g&te.)
Ootlhe^K Ilfnti&nti and Ihrotkea. Trmiii]fti«l into Enc-
lUh Hexameter Verse, by Manniduke J. Teeidik;
(Frederick Norgate,}
iMr. Lkttsom*s tmnftlfttion of the dream and etory of
KrkmhUd doei for BngUsh readers much thikt Dr. Kiri
Simrock did for German readera In bia modera rmwm
of the old |H}(>m publiihed at Bonn, in 18-10, under tht
title ZirajfZif^ Lietlci- von den Nielitumgt%. Tlie worfi
" Hecimd Kilition " on Mr. Lettaoia'a title-page sbow
that hiB wcU-eiecuted troric hai been thorough It appre-
ciate d» Mr. Teesd^ilc^i iratiBlation of that «xqaiait«lj
licautiful and eimplo pFrici of home iC6ne&, trials, |p7^
and ikffections, dc?pervcB tn meet with ^qtiail appreclitioo.
A usftns (ijnipathic-B tjiust he in tune infjth the finer
feelinp^ of \\it lieart to enjoy Goethc'B poem ns he wrote
it, or to trand!at« H as Mr. Tc^sdak haa done. The Tsrj
fiirnplieity of (h« origiiial prcienta many difficulties in
the way of matchiitg it with equal n&tural eiinplikitT.
Mr. Tee&dale liae t^armoQuted auch difficulties. He hai
adtleil a treaaure to literature by eiecwtinjj suck m
Engliah TerBion of one of the most deferred ly populir
of Ocrinau poenu,
Memoriait 0/ St. TiuTistan, ArcJibuhi>p ef CajUtr^HTif,
Eihti:d from varicuft >tanu*€fipti by William Stubw,
M*A. (LnngmanB k Co.)
CAnjj^iWj/i AiiffHa^: ah Ann^ /)rtflji'j»t IZtS, M^pu di
A/initm ltJBS> Attetorte Mofmcho qiiodam. S<uiMi
Affjani. Editi^d by Edmund .Maunde TbompwiL
(Lonj^ans k Co.)
Ta E above are tiro of the lateat volunsei cf the greit
riieitorical Series publiEhed bj uutliortty ef the Lordi of
the Treasury, and under the direction of the MaBter of
the RoIIb. Out of the t annua lire? of St. Danitan^ and
froTTi Uifi letters and other relies^ it wUl be hard if mo^^^
readeri fail ta build up eometlitng like the truth coa-
ceming this great EnjEliiihman. Mr. StubbB^a Introduc-
tion u, ^a uiual with himi fuU of ititere.^t from bepnaiog
to end. The chronicle of iiity years of the fourteentn
century is admirably edited by the learned Aadstaat*
Keeper of the MS3. in the Bridsh Museam. ET«zt
page eboWA how much history may be told in a imill
space; If the writer will only stick ih his subject.
»*ati.i>M.w,Ti.i
NOTES AND QUERIES.
499
Wht Sonnet : Us Origin^ Stnt€t%r€t ^^^ Placi in Poetry.
^ With Original Tmuslationi from the SonneUof Dftnte^ |
Potrtrcli, &c,,ajid Reniarks on the Art of TnuuUtbg.
Bt risarle? Tomlinson, F.R.8. (Mumtj.)
*1 come in itself, and ftl&o aa a proof that a
^ ith §ympathy for the loftiest fii]^ht» of
,u J...VV 3 ,..v,.x..^t. Were it otherwise^ tliia KtmcefiU and
[te&ned book would hare had no object. It must huvc
I ft work of labour^, bat a labour loved by tho writer,
[woiild not have be«n lo perfect aa it is. Thc*re is
^I'tng to be learned and something to be enjoyed in
F one of Mr. TomUoaon's tuneful pages.
ffluh JSthool Clastia. Edited by Frajicls Storr, B,A,,
■litant-M aster at Marlborough CoUegc. (RiTingtoni.)
Sfoaa now gires ut Lord Mac&ulay's ea$ay on
irrV Life of Lard Bifron ; Mr, Smith, of Winchoitcr,
Ibe '■ ^ci' of i^ir Thomna Browne; Mr, Sankev.
|of i^^'. , (joldimitlVs TravcUer and The Daerild
,., Air\', of Wellington CoUega^ selectiona
i-on'a papers in Th/t Sptdaior, Thus is com-
j I Nve believe, thia moat useful 5criea \ and thtia
^~ Ftniled ui an opportunity, of which we gladly avail
llvca» of again cordially commentling to thc«e en-
^ " in the work of education Mr. Storr's efforts for
Ke advancement of a knowledge of cbnical EngUdi
Iwritera in ichoola generally.
\Th€ Seotiiih Riformtrs. Edited by tho Rev. Charlefi
Rogera, LL.D. (Printed for the Englifih Reprint
Society.)
|pR. RooKKs furniihci mem^itra of Alexander Cun-
iUTiglmm, fifth Elarl of Glcncairn* Henry Calnavea of
IllalliilU and John Davidson, Minister of Frestonpans.
I To Daridjon, the pujiil and a^^ociate of John Knox,
"Mianited tho greater portion of the volume, uUich
dna not only his ildps for I'oan^ Scholan in
'^n-ity, but abo the poetidU remains of all.
\Otd and N(K London: a Xnrratire of iu Huioru^ iU
Pefipf^y a^ff^ its Places, By Walter Ttombury. lUui-
tr ! numerous Engravings from the moat
A irces. Vol U. ( Cufscll, Better & Gal pin.;
iHb- xji m.-. ..y has brought his portion of the history
|<jf the mctr^>i oils to an end. Congiderlug that he has
|t>€en urtfiKlcl in thi<i Herculean labour^ tho work doet
I h\m I l it 13 now complete if* itself. The
j <W0" LJile. Westminster ia in the handa
I of t.. ^,- : I whom Mr. Thombury has made
I oTcr a laTj^e amount of materia.1 for the subject which
1 Uicy hare undertaken to tlluBtrate.
l^aiVy T€iln for Liillt FolLs. Illustrated by more than
Twt» Htrndi-ed Picture a. Edited by Madame de Chatc*
lain. I Lock wood k Co.)
TH^ Little Bo/i Oitn Book of Sports, PoitrmiSt and
A fnMsrmf it fi^ muatrated with numerous Engraring^.
^Lookwood 6i Co.)
Tlic above couple of volumes explain themselves in their
titles Thev nra truly handy books, the first fdr romance,
I the second for reality.
A. F. Drift— "The Mlatiotoe Bough," story and aong.
Bee " N. k Q.," 4'" S. viii. 8, IIC, 177, 195, 313, 551 ; ix.
46, 128, U2, 477.
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account of the trial, of which, howcYer, we poueas a
copy.
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CONTEXTa — N« 52.
HFOTBa r— ChrUtiiiAS OontrMK ^1— CbrUtmu with Biabop
Backatt £02'0ilord$tare Chrlsttfau Mtncio Flmf, £0J^
Chrittmat Mnmmon In Donetibtm— Mj Cliriitmiia B«7 of
US4. ,^05 -••Ye Bmn'9 B««le''— Oh<»tStorl«, WT—Booty**
Ghi T yttoUon'a Ghost, 506— T»ro Old ChrUlmai
Cn :ti — Holly »nd Mlttleto*— Christ ui a* Deco-
nti Ukon to Choich »t CliriatuuiA Tinta, 600—
ArtliiiF ^ Mven on ttittCArTOii— "MjUiot"— A Ix>CilTi«diUoi)
of ihti Gog lUeiJC HOJs, 510.
UERIES :— To«*TKble^IUiiNtr*doDJ of Popular Booki— Tho
Selklrlf Pie— "Epltafl Glocosrf/' fill-fi*nie«: "Eucbre,"
iic, — ^Spfrnub L«(reDd< — An&Broon — Flemlntt* Settled at
Norwitb In lUll— Ffloltleaj Playi— Cnrlout Cbrlstlfta Names
— Tb« ii&irti's Piece — Arms of Hurry— Mlaa June Ovo—
&0V, Mr. Himtiiifton, 513— PAmilyof Zlaum— "HQmoarlst"
— MftithA Bradley— *"R»ritiea: or, the rnconjparablo Curia-
■Ulea," &c.— SMDiell by HM-Ungton. Bed*. —The Rev IL
Cudworib— The Salio L««^— Byioa Armi, 513— The Will of
Bit L*wl» dUTotd, 1*04 — "Plua e«t on voos"— '*Pro
lUtda," 6R
KBPUE3:-N»tlijui BAUe/i Dlctlonwles. 614— Danta indhia
TrmcuUtort, 516— A Curious Thorn, 516 — ** Hogroany," 617
— "Tl^^ Rnttlf? pf the KUe"— Tbe Dttlo Summer— ** The
Wl: i-i— Anni of Eogllih See*— Gunpowder
PJ :>aO— The Looi; PwlUineat— Ihomas
l^uii - v'ers«, 521— Bridgefard Family— Altar
Iwarge Oak. 62-2^TouchIii[g for the KJUi^'t
HarKaret," &c — FragmeDtwry line* of PoeCry
mu — The Termiuatloo " y " is the Name* of
&2a— *'Oaklc!gh Fore«t Code"— The Society of Art*
Memoxial Tableta— Two Churches in One church jiird-
FamUy of De Villian, 524— AmericAU I^Latus— " TeaUmc^nta
of the Twelve Patriarch* "— *' Flouta^ and jibea, and ieier3"—
•*A* ■ound aa a Roach*— ** Ore we/* f.r» Greek, 52ri— The
Prcft^nder In England — The fikaaed Thlitla —Nomenclature
of Vahlolaa — "John Jaaper'i Secret "^The Bonea of the
FhanoliA-ProaBnciaiion of '*AcUei"— Latin and EagUab
Qnjmtity, 61)61
onBookii &tk
H CUBISTMAS COSTTKASTS.
^M There is something touching in the simple
^Bwords of soniiwfal surprise with which Evelyn,
^^after liis long course of travel abroad^ records in
his IHijnj the incidents of the CJhristuiiis Day of
1 f;:.2 nhich he spent at Sayea Court. He had left
M monarchy. When he returned^ it wa£
nweakb, during the existence of which all
vance of the day waa prohibited. At the
date he writes, — "Christmas Day, no
lion nnywhere ; no church being permitted to
Ibe open ; so observed it at home.'* Again, in the
IfoUowing year, — "Christmas Day. No churches
lor public worship. I waa fiiin to pass the devo-
'nm of that Blessed Day with my fiimily at
ftc*" Still more gloomy is the next year's
ir,^" 1 054. Christmas Day. No public offices
kurches ; but penaltiea to obaervers ; so as I
ined to celebrate it at home." In 1655
'** There was no more notice tftken of
Day in churches." The season was
I morx> embittered. It was at this holiday time
. Ervlyn made the following record ; —
^*I wont to London, w}icr« Dr, Wikl {ireflrched tho
faD€Tti1 Bermon uf Prctwhing ; Ibis bem^^ the liMt day ;
after which Cromwell'B proclamation was to take place,
that none of the Church of England i^houll dar© cither
to preach, or adminLster Sacramentg, tca^h Bchool, &e.^
on pain of iuiprisotiment or eiUo. So this was the moum>
fullest dny that in my life I had seen, or the Church of
Engrland herself since thp Kcforinatioii, to the great
rejoicing of both Prie«t and Presbyter. So pathetic was
hirt dii»cour«e that it drew' many tenrs from the auditory.
My«elf, wife, and some of our family, received the CtJm-
munion. God mako mo thankful who hatb hitherto
provided for us the food of our soulfl as well as bodies.
The Lord Jesus pity our distressed Oburch, and bring
back the Captivity of Zion.**
What could not be celebrated in public was
performed in private. On the Christmas Day of
1656, Evelyn chronicles his going "to London to
receive the Bleased Sacrament, this holy festival,
at Dr. Wild's lodgingSj where I rejoiced to find so
full an assembly of devout and sober Christians,"
" 26th, I invited some of my neighbours and
tenants, according to custom, and to preserve hospi*
tality and charity." By next year some of the cleigy
were bolder grown, but their boldness was met by
rough treatment. Here is a record of the day,
A.D. 1657:—
" I went to London with mv wife to celebrate Chrtit-
mas Day, Mr. Gunning preaching in Exeter Chapel, on
Michah rii. 2. Sermon ended, as he was going to the
Uoly Sacrament, the Chapel was surrounded with sol->
dien, and a! I Iho commuuicantd and assembly surprised
and kept prisoners bv them ; aome in the house, others
carried away. It fell to my share to be confined to a
room in the' house, where yet I was permitted to dine
with the master of it, the Countess of Dorset, Lady
Htitttm, and some others of Quality who invited me. In
the afternoon, came Col, Whalley, Goffe, and others from
Whitehall, to examine us one by one. Borne tliey conh'>
mitted to the Marshal, some to prison. When I came
before them, they took my name and abode, examined
me, why, contrary to the ordinance made, that none
should any longer ob»erve the superfttitious time of the
Natirity (so esteemed by them), I durat offend and par-
ticularly pray for Charles Stuart, for which we had no
Scripture. I told ^hcm wo did not pray for Charles
Stuart, but for all Christiftn King-i, Princes, and Gover-
nors. They replied, in so doing, we prayed for the King
of Spain too, who wai their enemy and a Papist; with
other friroloua and ensnaring questions and much threat'
euing ; and finding no colour to detain me, they dismissed
me with much pity of my ignorance. There wore men
of high flight and above oi^insnces and spoke spitefkl
thingd of our Lord's Natirity. As we went up to receive
the Sacrament, the miecroants held their muskets against
us, as if they would hare shot us at the altar, but jet
sufi'cring us to finish the office of Communion, as perhaps
not having instruction* what to do in case they found ui
in that action. So I got home, Ute the next day, bleassd
b«God!"
Of the anniversaries of 1658 and 1659, there is
no record, but we have this " Jubilate *' on Novem-
ber 25th, 1660j— "Dr. Rainbow preached before
the King, on Luke ii. 14, of the glorj* to be given
God for all His mercies ; especially for restoring
the Church and Government, Now the servwa
waa performed m\-\x \Q»avH ^^vit'iT ^<u> -^ss^ ^'t^
602
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*B.n.Dao.261,71,
merly." On the Christmas Day following, Evelyn
writes, — "Preached at the Abbey, Dr. Earle,
Clerk of his Majesty's Closet, and my dear friend,
now Dean of Westminster, on Luke ii. 13, 14, con-
doling the breach made in the public joy by the
lamented death of the Princess " (of Orange, the
King's sister, of small pox, on the 22nd), " which
entirely altered the face and gallantry of the whole
Court."
The contrast that ensued must have stricken
Evelyn with sorrow. At Christmas-tide, 1662,
" I was told," WTites Pepys, in his Diary, " that
my Lady Castlemaine hath all the King's Christ-
mas presents made him by the Peers, which is a
most abominable thing ; and that at the great ball
she was much richer in jewels than the Queen and
Duchess put together." How completely the
wheel had turned round is s^n in the next para-
graph. "The Commons in Parliament, I hear,
are venr high to stand for an Act of Uniformity,
and will not indulge the Papists, which is endea-
voured by the Court party, not the Presbyters."
Nevertheless, " the Court Piiplsts " took the indul-
gence that was not specially granted. In the year
1667, it had become one of the London sights to
go to the Queen's chapel on Christmas Eve.
Pepys stood there, near the rails, from nine at
nij5it to two in the morning. He expected to see
a figuring of the birth of Our Saviour, the manger,
&c., but he stood amid a crowd of lackeys,
beggars, fine ladies, zealous poor Papists, gaping
Protestants, and cut-purses, with only Queen and
Court to stare at, and an endless musical service
to listen t^. The Papists, he says, had the wit to
bring cushions to kneel upon. Lady Castlemaine,
he adds, " looked prettily in her night-clothes."
Pepys finished his night, or rather Christmas
morning, at the Hose Tavern, over " burnt wine,"
and so home by nioonlij^ht. He stopped now and
then, on his way, to drop money, as was the
custom, and so home, where he found his wife in
bed, and Jane and the maid making pies. He was
up by nine, to church;— dull sermon, crowds of
fine people, a good Christmas dinner, a quiet
afternoon, and a joyous evening, brought the day
to an end. At Court, things went from bad to
worse. One may be a little surprised to find
Evelyn himself there on Christmas Day 1GS4;
but he was ashauied of what he saw. " Dr. Dove
preached before the King. I saw this evening
such a scene of profuse gaming, and the King in
the midst of his three concubines, as I had never
before seen ; luxurious dallying and profaneness."
It was the last Christmas Day of that "most
religious and gracious king," and the observance
of it presents contrasts (on which it is not neces-
BUTV to dwell) with the non-observance of the day
under the Puritans. Ed.
P,S, Walter Scott has aptly illuBtrated the fierce
opposition to observation of the feslml on Wl^'
side of the CovenanterB. In Old MortalUy, when
Cuddie Headrigg and his mother, Mause, aie dii-
missed from the barony of Tillietudlem, l^ Lady
Margaret Bellenden, who "will ha'e nae Whiggeiy"
on her estate, Cuddie exclaims to his Goyenantiiig
mother, " This is a waur dirdum than we got file
Mr. GudyiU when ye garr'd me refuse to eat tlie
plum-norridge on Yule-eve, aa if it were any matter
to God or man whether a pleughman had sappit
on minched pies or sour sowens." " It was &>•
bidden meat," rejoins old Mause ; " things dsdi-
cated to set days and holidays, which are inhibited
to the use of Protestant Chnstians."
CHRISTMAS WITH BISHOP HACKBT.
The Christmas sermons of this good bishop are
well worth introducing amidst the attractive hten-
ture of the season. They are ten or twelve in
number, and are most appropriately placed in the
forefront of his Century of Sermons (fo., 1675\
alluring the reader further into one of the
most entertaining folios in English divinity.
Though dealing largely in rebuke, Hacket*8 dis-
courses are fuU of the affectionate coonseb ind
gentle persuasiveness of the Apostle of Love :—
<'Sit in the vicar's seat: you'll hear
The doctrine of a gentle Johnian,
Whose hand is white, whose tone is clear,
Whoee phrase is very Ciceronian. . . .
His sermon never said or showed
That earth ia foul, that heaven is gncioiB^
Without refreshment on the road
From Jerome or from Athanasins."
The Christmas sermons show how happily the
bishop's motto, written over Faithome's lirge
portrait, characterized the man : " Serve God
AND BE CHEARFVLL." Hackct could not bear, it
is said, to look upon a sour man at dinner, fiii
admirable biographer tells us that as Christmas
approached he would beg of the King to allow bim
to return to his diocese ; and thither he often went
" in frosty Winter weather," to be like " the good
Pastor among his sheep where they m* hear his
voice at Christmas, and the other great Feasts*
(p. xxxix). As the anniversary came round, he
was ready with a Christmas address, invariablr
founded upon the Second Lesson in the Moraing
Pniyer ; the most gladsome of all being that on
the text, —
" Glory to God on high, on earth be peace
And love towards men of loTe—salvatxon and releiK.*
It was " the theme of my doctrine sundry times'
(p. 60) ; no Scripture, as he thought, being man
fertile of wonders, or more adapted to encourage
joyous thoughts. No less than fifteen sermooi
are devoted to the Incarnation. They evidenoi
the heartiness with which the amiable prelate, is
common with the nation, entered into the eiHiit of
the hallowed season. They also afford waaj
\ c;\mss\3i& ^xsfi^saJLlons of the festive habits of tbedij
> a It. Dko. 2S. 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
503
id of the manners of the time, Thu?^ the old
iiuely phrase, '* A merry Chmtmas!" was old
id houiely then* It wna ** every man 3 f^alutation
ici\*witb he greets hia neighbour at thk time of
ye«ir"; thijj ia the subject of his fourth dia»
rse* ** Surely were it not that the birth of
us made ua merry at this season, and put glad-
is in^o onr heurts^ rdl the year benide would be
riou and lumpish, without all manner of con-
,tion*' (p, 30). It vft\B aL?o "much in every
's talk, *Who keeps a good house at Christ-
"" (p. B7). There is reference to the noon-
ner, a great feast, which **mast have the
iioo of a Preacher^s pains before it," be-
ne a plain j2^ce would not serve the turn. In
,ve tones he censures the iniraoderate and kixu-
!iist», which "in many families do reach to
|ht''; and he encouraged his flock upon
occJision to Bobnety in their diet and in
j>lea^iires, presenting innocency and Btm-
ity in attractive guise. The extravagant dress,
ich also seems to have been then an adjunct of
season, fulls imder rebuke^ Contrasting the gar-
Dots of tbe crowd at the Advent of Chriat to
salem, he says, — " Christ would not have
lOured yours with his feet ; he would not have
ipon j^our Peacock attire, which is so vain
rable " (p. 47). ** Apparel superlatively
most vain, and most effeminate ; how fjene-
[y it h to be seen upon all people's shoulders I
vvliiit excessive bravery is the pride of the
rf lorn raisM in less than the rpvolution
^ ar^, not only in this luxurious City,
iii liMle Bethlehem, in every village of the
!^* (p. 53). Certain games are reprehended :
hat a revenue it would be to help the needy if
kiitA of Chrulmas gaming and dicing were
upon them. , . ♦ * Among lawful and
timea of this Festival time, it is strange
Icing is crept in among them " {p. 5D). In
ition to his animadversion to the late hours
I their fe^tsts, the length of time thus occupied in
** junketings" of the holidays comes itnder
' Christmas is celebrated part of the new year
of the old" (p. 4 A); *' Christmas Day
elvo days joyn^d unto it, to eche (.nc) out
'i^y" (P- ^)i "Christmas joy was not
for the iirst txvelve days, when the *Son of
was U)rn» but for all the twelve months of
htmdreti ye^irs, and many hundreds after
to the world's end " (p, 48). The bishop
words against those whose " strictness
How of no sports or plefwumble jocund-
seuaon (p. 46)* 'i' 'ition of
ig with the «e;v5on adantly
' v ^ir^iCS. ■ ^Mirjiisjv^ df»tb
^ than a godly song"
,* r, .iL |..;,L ..-, .u^.^: is a defence of mu?iic
dinrcheii, as itately aud tjob«r oa the well-
known pussuge in The E^SHUfBHkal PoilUj, His
congregjitions were always eitTiorted to bring into
their annual celebration their best skill, their best
harmony, and their best cheerfulness. Coleridge
happily noted one paragnrf>h in one of these
Christmas sermons as "one of Hacket's sweetest
passnges : it is really a beautiful little hymn" {Notes
on Eii'jlUh J H vines). It is as follows : —
*' I beacech you ob?crTe» all you that would keep «
good CAn'ifirtrt* oj you ought, that the Klory of God U the
bc«t celebration of Ilii JSon^ nativity; &nd all your pus*
ttuiea an J niipth (which idiaaUow not, but rather oom-
Tnend in moJerate usg) nm^t bo bo managM, without
rlotf without surfeiting, without exceaaive gaming, with-
out pride and Taiii pomp, in harialeseness, in sobriety, oa
if thto glory of the Lord wor© round itboiit as. Christ
was bom to eave them that were loat ; but frequently you
abuse Hia Natitrity with 80 many vices, such disordered
outrages, that you mskko thii happy time an occasion for
jour loss rather than for your salvation. Praise Him in.
the conjrregation of the people -' Pratse Him in your
inward licart ! Praise Him with the lanctity of your life f
Praise bim ia your charity to them that need and are ia
want ! This ia tbe glory of God eliining round, and the
rno^t Chriitian solemaixing of the BirlU of Jesus.**—
P. 27.
J. E. Bailt.
OXFORDSHIKE CHUISTMAS MIRACLE PLAY,
Perhaps the following nmy be of sufficient intet--
est to appear in your Christmas number. The
text of the play wjuj taken down by myself from
the lips of one of the performers in 18.53, I fit^t
saw it iicted in tbe Unll of the old Vicarage House
lit Thame, in tbe year 1 830, by those whose custom
it had l^en, from time immemorial j to perform it
at the houses of the gentle-people of that neigh-
bourhood at ChrLstnms, between St, Thomas's Day
and Old Cbristmas Eve, January 5. These per-
formers (now long scaltere<.l» and all dead but one,
as I am infonne^i) claimed to be the '* tme and
legitimate successors " of tlie mummers who, in
previous centuries, constantly i}erformed at th6
^^Whitsun" and **ChristnmB Church Ales," re-
cords of whieh tert found on almost ever}' page
of the ** Stewards' and Churchwardens' Books of
the Prebendal Church of our Blessed Lady of
Thame,"
In ^Ir. Lupton's Uistory of Tl^amt^ some
account of these performances is giveu j while, in
the "Address"' prefijced to his pri>iiteiy-printed
and curious tract, Extract* from tht Accounts of
th' ProclOTA (trtti SUwards^itc. of that town, he refers
to the exceeding great popuhvrity of the mumming
for many years. In Lord Wenman's time, t. «.
ITDo, the performances Mere annually given at
Thnme Park; and at the Baronial Hall of Brill,
Back*, ab*>ut 18(^8-14, the entertainment wns
attenrled by the nobility and gentry for mile*
raund, ivnd b rei>orted to have been produced on a
scale of considerable magnificence.
The Ulan from whom I took down tkc talUi'«t\R.?t
504
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5>^an.]hK.26,71
in my Note-book had performed at Brill, in the
year 1807, and his father had done the same at
TJiame Park in the previous century. I do not
profess to be able to explain the text of the play,
nor can I quite admire all its points. Its coarse-
ness, too, is not to my taste. Leaat of all can
I comprehend its purport. Its anachronisms will
be patent to all. But at least its action is
vigorous, and, when I was a boy, I confess that I
thought the performance most delightful and
impressive. As the late Mr. Lupton (a local anti-
quarian and a gentleman T)f excellent taste and
high character) mformed me of so much that is
here set forth, I may add that he, at the same
time, expressed his conviction that my version of
the play is most probably the only one that had
ever been committed to paper ; for the dialogue
was purely traditional, and handed down from
father to son. Nothing whatsoever has been
altered or added by myself. I have only ventured
to put the directions in Italics in a little more con-
cise and intelligible language than that in which
they were dictated to me.
Dramatis Pebsok^.
King Alfred.
King Alfred's Queen.
KineWilliam.
Old KiDg Cole (with a wooden leg).
Giant Blunderbore.
Little Jack.
Old Father Christmas.
St. George of England.
The Old Dragon.
The Merry Andrew.
Old Doctor Ball.
Morres-Men.
All the mummers come in singing, and walk round the
place in a circle, and then stand on one side.
Enter King Alfred and his Queen arm-in-arfn,
1 am King Alfred, and this here is my Bride,
I We a crown on my pate and a sword by my side.
[Stands apart
Enter King Cole.
I am King Cole, and I carry my stump,
Hurrah for King Charles ! down with old XoIFb Rump 1
[Stands apart.
Enter King William,
I am King William of blessed me-mo-ry,
Who came and pulled down the high gallows-tree.
And brought us all peace and pros-pe-ri-ty.
[Stand: apart
Enter Oiant Blunderbore.
I am Giant Blunderbore, fee, fi, fum.
Heady to fight ye all— so I says, "come,"
Enter Little Jach ( Blunderbore continues).
And this here is my little man Jack,
A thump on his rump and a whack on his back.
^ „ [Strikes him twice.
I'll fight King Alfred. I '11 ficht King Cole,
I 'm ready to fight any mortal soul ;
So here, I, Blunderbore, takes my stand.
With this little devil, Jack, at my right hand.
Beady to fight for mortal life. Fee, fi, fnm.
[The Oiani and LiUU Jad itand apart
Enter St. George.
I am St. George of Merry Eng-Iand,
Bring in the morres-men, bring in our band.
[Morra-men come forward and dance to a tmu
from fife and drum. The damee being ended,
St. Oieorge continnee.
These are our tricks. Ho I men, ho !
These are our sticks,— whack men ao.
[Strika the Dragon, vho roars, and comee forward.
The Dragon epeais.
Stand on head, stand on feet.
Meat, meat, iheat for to eat.
[Triee to UU King AVrel
I am the dragon, here are my jaws,
I am the dragon, here are my claws.
Meat, meat, meat for to eat.
Stand on my head, stand on my feet.
[Turns a tummenauU and ttamdM eniiu
All ting, several times repeated.
Ho ! ho I ho !
Whack men lo.
[The drum and fife sounds. They all fight, and
after general disorder, fall down.
Enter Old Doctor BalL
I am the doctor, and I cure all ills^
Only guUup my portions [qy. potions] and swallow nj
pills;
I can cure the itch, the stitch, the pox, the palsy sal
the gout,
All pains within and all pains without.
Up rrom the floor. Giant Blunderbore I
[Gives him a pill, and he ritet at once.
Get np King ; get up Bride ;
Get up Fool, and stand aside.
ZGives them each a pHl, and they rise.
Get up King Cole, and tell the genUefolks all.
There never was a doctor like Mr. Doctor Ball ;
Get up St. George, old England's knight,
[Gives him a pHl.
Ton have wounded the Dragon, and finished the fight
[All stand aside but the dragon, who lies in con-
vulsions on thefioor.
Now kill the old Dragon, and poison old Nick,
At Yule-tyde both o' ye, cut your stick.
[The doctor forces a large pill down the dragoiks
throat, who thereupon roars, and dies in cw
vulsions.
Then enter Father Christmas.
I am Father Christmas ! hold, men, hold !
Be there loaf in your locker, and sheep in your fold,
A fire on the hearth, and good luck for yoor lot.
Money in your pocket, and a pudding in the pot
He sings'
Hold, men, hold !
Put up your sticks.
End all your tricks ;
Hold, men, hold !
C^oriM (aU sing, while one goet round with a
hat for gifts J.
Hold, men, hold !
We are very cold.
Inside and outside.
We are very cold.
If you don't give as silver.
Then give us gold
From the money in your pockets —
[Some of the performers Aow eigne of figkHngagtin,
Hold, men, hold t /•/t^'w—
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505
t^tmg andthorus.
A.*iiiightj bleta jonr heart' ' ' ' :,
out the wolf, «nd keep out
StT* [hare giron] UA Bilrcr, , . l lie gold,
'tu money in jour ptxiket— UolJ, meii^ huld J
Stpcai in chorus,
God A 'mighty Llets, kc.
l^jcturU omnu,
Frebrrick Gsorge Lee, D.C.L,
fiMntB* YictLTa^, Lambeth.
/So. 2*
1U8TMAS MtTMMEES I7f DOUSETSHIRE.
tre lately been furnished with copies of a
0[ play, iw peiformed by mtitniiiers at
litnas^tide in two disjtinct ptimhes in Domet, fi
Hccount of which I thotit^ht might prove ac-
' le to the ChriatmriS Numbt^r of '' N» & QJ'
two copies bear a strong furaily resemblance
* find 08 they are of some considerable
neoeoarily too long for the pages of
I must content myself with giving a
t the characters in each :—
No. 1. Old Father ChristmoB.
Room (1).
Anthony, the Egyptian King.
SL George.
St. Patrick.
Capt Bluster
OmciouB King.
General Valentine.
Colotiel Spring,
Old Betty,
Doctor,
8emmt-miui.
Old Father Chriatmatf.
Rame (1).
Torkifih Knight.
Ring George.
MftHihalae.
Taliaut Soldier.
Cutting Star.
Doctor
Old Bet
who desire a more detailed account of their
and saying, I would refer to somewhat
procee^lini^ relate* I in Brand's Popular
"!iv* V ?.<»; Hone's Every- Day Book, iL
ci^A Book of iJai/it^ ii. 740 ; in
t ; a capital engraving of a party
[mmcrs.
ould, howerer, venturo to claim for our
shire mummers the introduction of " Old
jptended, I presume^ to represent the wife of
herChristraa«/' the character being taken
V possessed of a shrill voice^ and being
ft Tery old woman, in a black bonnet
Father Chrbtmas himself being
sometimes on a wooden horse, covered
lings of dark cluth, from which Uie old
crally mon:' thrm once thrown. The
party arc decked out aa beKtj* the
each is intended to aH«iiiue, gamtiihed
't, coloureii strips of pf^per, caji^, sashes^
buttons, fiword^, helmets, &c. The repreeentation
of the play concludes in each case with a song.
The mummers proceed from parish to parish ;
and from the good cheer they meet with in most,
contrive to spend, on the whole, a tolerably ** merry
Chri^tnifts.'* J. B. Ujdal.
Junior Athenmum Club,
MY CHRISTMAS BAY OF 1824*
In 1824 I waa nearly fifteen, and under the eare
of a tutor at Haarlem, who educated fteveral Eng-
lishmen ; amongst others, Admiral Ommaney, his
brother Walter, and the brave and talented George
Grenfell, who met such a melancholy fate in t£e
Civil War of the United States, My parents were
then at Brussels ; and two days previous to Christ-
mas Day I left Haarlem with another English lad
of my own age, who died young, to spend a fort-
night with my family.
I believe the journey can now be i>erformed ia
four hours ; but in those days, the diligence to
Botterdam travelled at the rate of about five mile«
an hour, and waa a huge vehicle which held six in
the front i%art, and had a long hearse-like ex-
crescence behind, across the inside of which there
were four seats, that afforded sitting room for a
dozen victims. To this there was no other entrance
than one door, so that to reach the furthest Beat
you had to ask three persons to rise, a prooesB
which was sometimes long in the case of substantial
Dutchmen who were smoking their pipes.
Into this furthest seat my friend and I penetrated
ftt an early hour on a very cold and foggy morning.
His clothes were packed with mine in a large bk^
portmanteau, which has withstood the hard wear
and tear of fifty years, and may last another genera-
tion. This was our only incumbrance ; ana when
that was hoisted on to the roof, we st^irted for
Rotterdam,
The old diligence rolled dowly on; the ten
Hollanders were soon all smoking, and we tried to
do the same, although at that time we were only
imperfect mastenj of that most valuable aocora-
plishment. The four little side windows were all
closed, as a matter of course, and the fog was sooiii
if less aguish, thicker inside than outside the
diligence. At last, much in the condition of red
herrings, we all tumbled out at Leyden ; and to our
surjirise found that in the front compartment of
our vehicle we had for travelling companion an
EngUahmaDt who was what was then termed a great
dandy, but of rather an old school I think his
name was Williams ; but I remember that he
claimed to be intimately acquainted with Lord
B)Ton, and thought fit to lecture us lade for
laughing at fi ^: pecimen of a Leyden pro-
fessor who i'j ': to a companion, for which
offence we uv,/.vir.i filing our monitor to which
hotel we were going when we were obliged to stop
d^
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at Rotterdam, and allowed him to go to a very bad
one.
So far our progress, if slow, had been sure ; but
there it ceased, as there was a general exclamation,
"the waters are out !" The Maas spread far and
wide its muddy stream over the flat lands opposite
to Rotterdam ; and as we looked out from our
hotel through the fine old trees, the Boomtjes as
the natives affectionately called them, it was very
clear that until next day, or perhaps the next,,
there was no chance of our going further. For-
tunately I had friends in the place, who spoke
English, with whom we dined ; and one of whose
guests was, I think, on that day, P. A. L., the
accomplished contributor to "N. & Q.," whose
death will be always regretted by its readers. We
had, therefore, little reason to complain, for the
moment, of the wild doings of the Miuis. But the
case was very different when, the next morning, a
gale of wind .added to the difficulty of reaching
anything like firm land on the other side of that
river. Hour after hour passed, and it was only
late in the day that it was thought safe to cross it.
The diligence was then pushed on to something
between a boat and a raft, with a mast and sail on
one side and a vast lee-board on the other, and
went staggering on its voyage like a drunken
giant. My companion and I, with four other pas-
sengers and two boatmen, then tumbled into a
boat, which was none too large for the party, and
put off for what looked like a very small island in
the midst of the expanse of water before us.
When a Dutch boatman has let down a stout lee-
board, on which he can rely, he is very indifferent
as to the amount of sail his boat carries ; and as it
was still blowing rather hard, we were flying
through the water when, at about a quarter of a mile
from land, we ran upon something, which proved to
be a tree under the stream, that, luckily for us, broke
short off, but so nearly capsized the boat that we
were up to our ankles in water, and in that state
we reached our destination.
If that looked like a mere spot at a distance, it
turned out to be in reality but a small patch of dry
land, on which was a wretched post-house, for it
hardly deserved the name of an inn. From it a
long line of road, carried apparently on tlie top of
an embankment, stretched out like a finger-post
before us. Alas ! it only pointed out our way to
Brussels ; as we were very soon made to under-
stand, although our knowledge of Dutch was small,
that for the present we could not follow it. We
were, in fact, caught in a trap, and a somewhat
damp one. There wtts only a miserable dull peat
fire in the inn, and nothing to eat or drink but
bread, butter, and cheese, with indiflorent hollands
and worse coffee. Christmas trees had not at that
time come into fashion ; but Christnuis Eve was
perhaps then usually more jolly than it is now.
Yet certainly not for us, as we sat steaming in our
wet clothes round the fire throughout the niglit ;
and it was veiy difficult not to flneve that we had
left our kind friends at Rotterdam, or not to feel
anxious for our Christmas pudding of tba monw.
At last, however, it was light enou^ to see ; bat
so late before we started, that what with bad
weather, worse roads, and many stonpages, it waa
near midnight when we arrived at Brusseb. We
had spent a strange Christmas Day.
Even then our troubles were not at an end. Hie
hotel at which the diligence stopped was in the
lower town, and of course we were expected to
take a bed there ; but, boy-like, we were d0te^
mined to go home, without having any idea ci
where it was, except that it was in Uie Park. At
first no one would show us the way thither ; ye^
by mustering all the French we could command,
we at last induced a man, who stood by in a bloiue,
to shoulder our portmanteau and go with us.
In those days the Park was a desohite place at
night ; at lea^t, a great part of the side towazds
the railway-station, on which there was then a good
deal of open ground, now built on ; and it was veiy
badly lighted everywhere. The night waa abo :
intensely cold and dark ; and we were hardly in the
Park when our conductor refused to go any further,
began to cry and talk about his mother ; in ahoit,
either was, or pretended to be, an idiot We were,
therefore, obliged to give him a couple of fnsutt
and trust to ourselves. The portmanteau was,
however, as much as we could carry between m ;
and we soon came to the conclusion that one of us
must sit on guard over it while the other went to
find some person to show us the house we sought
I was the first to undertake to do this ; and, aa
the only human beings I could find were two sen-
tinels, who accompanied an instruction to " passes
au large " by the unpleasant rattle of a musket, I
knocked in despair at a large house, from the
garret of which issued a night-cap. The owner of
it was, however, evidently not pleased ; for he
replied to my inquiries by a volley of oaths and
the contents of some article of crockerv, which my
activity luckily enabled me to avoicl. Nothing
daunted, I next pulled hard for a long time at a
bell, which I found out at last was hanging at the
gateway of an unfinished building. I afterwards
learned it was the palace of the Prince of Orange
Having gone right round the Park without meeting
any person but the sentinels, I returned to mr
friend, who thought I was lost, and he then started
off on a similar voyage of discovery.
I sat for a long time on the portmanteau ; bat
my friend was more fortunate than I had been, as,
at some distance, he met a man who was hurrying
along, and who, in reply to his very imperfect
French, asked him, in very good English, if he was
an English lad. You may imagine his delist
when he found that he had met a courier who ina
going to the English Embassy to deliver his de»-
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ftidieSy aud who very good-nature<lly told xin thtit,
r we would sit auietly where we were until Ire lind
Iil«>fit« «Oj he would show us where my famUy was
When we knocked at the door it wjis
k in the morning of the day after Chriat-
t)u^ I'l I huYe now told you how I sJ'^ent
bmy ' *ii 1824 Ralph N. James.
A* .. ...-L
P.S. Although Lord Yarmouth had not then
* V r»und reflection on Wilkie*3 huiihand
e the leg of mutton wsuj not done^
V» II u ,. i Mil that fellow muat be not to see what
. glorlnus grill he might have/* we acted upon hia
[>rtnc(pU% and did not go to bed until we had done
■Simple justice to broiled turkey, and plum-pudding
proportion.
"YE BOARE/8 HEADB.'*
The time-honoured custom of the Boar*s Head
Feast at Christmaa-tide wiD, I am afraid, become
fcxtinct in London^ since the eiiange of proprietor-
"blp of Old St. John a Gate, Clerkenwellj which
: place last year. All true lovers of tlie rnre
^east, HO peculiarly characteriMtic of English
litality, must regret this, espa^cially those who
sidenta in London ; for, be it rc^membered, it
|«o appropriate to have hml the fea.st held in a
"iing *o plentiful with higtorical associations,
\y.u\: into the Dark Ages^ as the Old Gate,
tie ining relic of the Priory of Bt. John
C»f .1 The boar's hea*l h still served
Lip at t^^ueen's College, Oxford, but I do not think
i( cjin he nuye enjoyable than the Christmas
tustom used to be at Clerkenwell, with the hall
^trewn with rushes, the gigantic yule log dniwn in
"by the sons of the host (the late proprietor), with
Iho atvompanying announcement by bugle=t, and
Ibo brin^'ing in of the boar*8 hesvl, the ** cook
irciseti all in white" singing the good old carol
(printed by Wynkyn de Worde, 1521), copies of
irhich bt'ing in the liands of the guests, who joinetl
l^lV I -^ rendering the whole sc^ne so
ver to he forgotten. The loving cup
L .Liiitted, and of course wiisjutil was
Inly brought in, **y* Lorde of Mysrewle" doing
bid duly ** passing well/* The followung is an
^xuiit copy of the carol ; —
* Cakoll at yv, HKtuGTvn 19 Ts Boxx'$ Uek]>*
Caput apri diffm
jfiid'ltrit tandtm domino.
Tlif TforeV heed in V- r ' -nrj« T,
With ipirlcna {^y < it.*,
1 pfj*y you all tjui:
The Bore'e heed I undcrst^ntle
i« ihe cLefe ^ervvce in thtB laiide,
hoke wherever it be fondo.
ScrvtU cum cantico.
Be IfladiJe lordeSj both more and leaM,
For thii h&th cirdojDed our ttew&rdv
To chere you nil thi« Cbriitmiwsp,
The bore* heed with mustarde/*
A« we fuay never see another boar'^ head at St.
John's Gate, kindly permit me to give you a copy
of the invitation the late host and his predecessor
used to isHUe, which is a curious production, and
may interest some of your readers anxious to learn
something about the old ediflce and its now extinct
yearly customs :^
** • W<? 11 i*!k^*e aboute y* lovyage cuppe,
Ai.d seiide y* ^va&aaile ruundc;
^Vith mjfrtUe and Bongc* of chjTalHe,
Thc«e goodlye Hallea shall ftouudc/
[Hero la an illuatration of the north side of the Gate]
Samuel Wickens, ye Grande Mayeattr of ye Prioryc of
Sainte John, G rectinge welle hy« ryght trustye and wella
bii'lovtd friends, dothc hcrcbya iummon them to hya
councille, to be holdcn in y Oreate Ualle of y* Priorye#
aforeiatde, on y* ninthc daye of lanuortc, anno Domini
one thoii«ande eighte hundrede and seven tie- threes to
ttdjadycftte on y' quatitie of hys viandea : that is to saye.
Roadie Beefe and rhinibe Puddyngu, and with a ourdi^la
greclioge In y Wai^Buile Boule and y' boTynge Cunpe,
perpetuate to all© tymo aud to tyrae oute of mvnde a
ryglite ^'Oodlye «nd lostynge felluwahipe. Ye ^oaro'a
lieade will be b rough ie into vo Halle, and ye Chante
wlile be :^un>;c, at sii^o of tlio clockej at wblche tyme ye
FeasLe willo begine.**
And with carols and toasts did we keep up the
feast. The modern Knights of St. John will do
well to resuscitate the Boars Head Feilfet and its
appurtennnces of carol singing, &c., and not to
interdict Christmas observances as they have beea
done elsewhere upon several occasions, but with a
permanent result. (Vide Evelyn's Z>«iry, vol. i.,
pp. 2U7, 3m, 322, 327, 341, 1652^1656, and l6o7,
respectively.) J. Jeremiau, Juo.
43, Red Lion Street, aeffkenwell.
GHOST STORIES.
The first of these stories I had from Gratia
Louise H.| who was told it by one of the ghost-
seera, for there were several. The cholera waa
raging in Bavaria : several of the small mountain
villLiges hjid been titerally depopulated. The late
King Louis, Queen Therese, and the Court were at
Aiicbatfenburg, as the pestilence was peculiarly
fatal in Munich, a pbtce (Jueen Therese disliked
very much, when, either on account of some State
ceremoniul, or from one of his usual fits of resit^
le^sness, King Louis announced that the Court
w^ould return to Munich in three days. The
evening before they started, the Queen and several
of her ladies were sitting in one of her apirtmenta
in the pabiee, the last but one of the suite. She
was in low spirits, and all were unhappy at the
prosp<*ct of the return to Munich. It waa a warm
Biunmer evening, drjiwing on to du^k. Presently
a hidy, dressed in white, came into the room, atid
nial ' i:ht reverence to the r^ sed on
ii!i r room, which ope nt' nnc in
wbi< n iri»:v were sitting. A fv^v uiomLuLa aft^r
ahe had paased, it struck all present that they did
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not recognize her ; also, that none of the other
ladies on that day were wearing white dresses.
The Queen and some others stood up, and went
into the room to see whom it might be, and found
it emptv ! There wjis no mode of egress except
the doc :• by which they had entered, and the room
was on the second story, so that no one could have
got out of the window. Suddenly all felt that it
must h:ive been " the Whit« Lady," whose visit is
believed to foretell the death of one of the
Bavarian royal family, and some of the ladies
fiiinted. The Court went to Munich on the next
day, according to appointment, and three days
after, Queen Therese was dead of the cholera.
' The second story is this. I^Iy father's regiment
was stationed at Clare Castle, in the County Clare,
Ireland ; this was during part of the Peninsular
War. He had not long joined, and was not
Harried ; but his cousin, the late Major F. D.,
then a Captain, and his wife were also with the
regiment. It was the beginning of winter ; the
regiment had been only a week in the castle, and
no one expected a move before spring. Mrs. D.
had been giving some directions about her rooms,
irhen her maid said to her,—" It will not be worth
four while, ma*am, to get these things, as the
regiment will be marching in a day or two." — Mrs.
D. said, " Impossible ! we are here for the winter,
at lea.st."— " Oh, ma'am," said the maid, " the
white lady was seen on the battlements List night
by the sentries, and whenever she appears, the
route comes within the week." The tnidition was
that a hidy in white was seen to walk about on
the ramparts, wringing her hands and weeping
bitterly, just before the route came for any regi-
ment stationed in the castle. She was siiid to
have been the wife of an officer, who had died of
grief in consequence of her husband having been
suddenly ordered off on foreign service. The
route came before two hour>«, and in two days the
regiment had left the castle. This was told me
by Mrs. D. herself, and is perfectly unaccountable.
When none of the officers knew anything of the
approaching move, it does not seem likely that the
wife of one of the men (such, I believe, was Mrs.
D.'s servant) could know anything about it, and
the regiment, as before said, had only arrived at
the castle within the week. Cywrm.
Erth yr Aur, Carnarvon.
Booty's OnosT.— Being in the harbour of
Catania, in Sicily, with two friends, in the month of
August last, in sight of Mount Etna, a conversation
arose upon the story of Booty's ghost, which was
simultaneously broached by two of tho party, who
appeared to recall it to their recollection at the same
moment. The story, which each had heard from
entirely different sources, and many years ago,
though differing in a few details, was substantially
the same, and to this effect -.—-That many years
aso, a British man-of-war was lying in the harbour
of Catania. Some of the officers made an ene-
dition to tho crater of Mount Etna, and had a
picnic there. They were eating ship's biscoit^
manufactured by one Booty, in Engfnnd, and u
one of them was knocking out some weevils firooi
his biscuit, he cursed the soul of Booty, who had
made such bad biscuits. Immediately upon tliii^
a figure was seen by them to run up the side of
Mount Etna, and throw himself into the cratet
The form was recognized by those present as being
that of Booty, and the met impressed itself so
much upon tneir minds that it was recorded in
had died upon the very, day on which the aw»-
rition was seen at Mount Etna) for spreadug
reports injurious to his character. The offioen
adhered to their statement, and produced the
ship*s log as evidence of its trutL ?rhe case was
decided in their favour. I am veiy anxious lo
learn whether such a trial as that indicated by the
story ever did take place, and if so, where any
record of it is to be found. H. R P.
Lord Ltttelton's Qhost. — Although the itxj
ample details supplied in " N. & Q." in connexioD
with this singular stoiy would seem to exhaust tha
subject, a few lines of confirmatoir testimony may,
perhaps, not be unacceptable. My late moUier
was the only daughter of Sir George Prescott, at
whose house, Theobald's Park, Bl^s, Mr. Mika
Peter Andrews was a frequent visitor, his lirely
manners and agreeable conversation ensuring him
a cordial welcome, both from young and old. My
mother had numerous opportunities of hearing
him relate the story of his friend's apparition, foi
though, as a rule, inclining to avoid the subject, he
was at all times ready to narrate or confirm the
incident for the satisfaction of an inquirer. Ob
one such occasion, the story was taken down, {lom
his own mouth, by a fellow- visitor, Mr. TattenhaH,
and the manuscript remained for many years in my
mother's possession, until, in a change of residence,
it was, with other old papers, accidentally de-
stroyed. Its substance, which differs but slightly
from accounts derived through other sources, was
embodied in a paper on kindred subjects — *' Is it
Possible?" — contributed to All the Ytar Hwnd
about five j'cars since. At Pit Place — now in the
occupation of my friend Mr. F. Rowlands— the
room in which Loni Lyttclton died, known as the
Oaken Chamber, from some carving round the door,
is still an object of interest to visitors, for whose
use, indeed (no doubt from motives of the purest
hospitiJity), it is commonly reserved. It is per-
haps in part owing to its dual character that this
remarkable story has so long retained its place in
public recollection. That M&. M. P. Andrews had
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it]
rieatly
vi?^ion described, can only be questioned on
F n thivt both hcj and the scrvunU who
luse at Dartford for Lord LyttcltoD
lie latter died iit Epsom, had agreed
ition of a fsdsehood. Finally, that
i^jLuiiuu had a warning or presentiment, of
description, of his approaching: end, is buIH-
attested by Madaiue Piozxi. Premising
thii ulh^'ed warnini^, if ^jiven, was admittedly
the Tlmrsday night, Aladame P/a diary, under
teof the Sunday following, contains, — " Yester-
ly, a lady from Wales dropped in, and told us
le had been at Drury Lane on Friday nif^ht.
^ / a^ked I, * were you entertained ?^ — * Very
ily infleed ! Kot with the play, though, but
id diacourse of a Captain Ascough, who averred
a friend of his, Lord Lyttelton^ has seen a
it, who has warned him thivt he will die within
days. I have thou^dit of nothing else
'' The next morning br<3ughfc Madame P.
Mm. Tlirale) the news that the fatal pro-
ihccy had been fulfilled. H. 8.
■that
itben
Two Old Christmas Customs of Notts. —
jThfi inhabitants of North Clifton were formerly
• feny free. In consequence, the ferryman and hia
dog were indulged with a dinner each at the ricar'a
&t Christmas ; and it ia said that the minister's
dog was turned out of doors while the fexryman's
dog enj»>ycd itself. The ferryman also on that day
^feoeived of the inlmbitanta a prime loaf of bread.
Ne,'ir Raleigh there X3 a valley said to have been
used by a.n earthquake several hundred yejurs
[), which swallowed up a whole village, together
'l^the diurch. Formerly it was a custom of the
* f to assemble in this valley every Christmas
Jmorning to listen to the ringing of the bells of
"burch beneath them. This, it was positively
3, might be heard by placing the ear to the
Bud and hearkemng attentively. As late as
1827, it wa8 usual on this uiorning for old men
1 wonien to tell their chililren and young friends
^go to iho valley, stoop down, and hear the bells
"tmerrily* The villagers heard the ringing of
eUs of a neighbouring church, the sound of
1 wa» communicjvted by the surface of the
OU»d. A similar belief exists, or did a short
I ai;o, at Preston, Lttncashire.
J. P. Briscoe.
KdtlioghAm.
HoLLT AXB Mistletoe,^ A correspondent of
iJie SUtmfofd Mertury writes us follows : —
♦*l*Ml weelt we iklluded tn the rrrrrrecns of Notts.
|0<bcr day i*c nero d<.>\\ i'
! DaVe of Poftlttfid, at :
^ijml ^^^^ri?^ undwL.: , ■ . ■ . '.'f
; and Earl MaiirerJi. In ii r»ortion
i Hide, Ufa rnwK of hoUica 1^ luilo
Ut Tr mhHii ,n onwiteh faU they wore the lofip«»t
I III Hrt|{tjiad ()it:rhft])a in the vrurld). Ue mn orer
the VRrictiet of holly, naming tlie v&rieg&ted bed^chog
and Queert. Tht latter, be faid. It ad been purclm^d at
10/* per plant. He said there nari no place iu the United
Kingdom to equal Thoresby P&rk for mistletoe : it jirowa
upon UiQ tbom. He oDurneratciJ tbe trees he bad ob-
senred it growing upon, vist,, tboni, mapjej popJar, apple^^
And crab U'eea. Ue bad never seen it on tbe oak : yet
were the Druids wrong;? Ue mentioned two kinda of
berries, white and pule yellow, and said, in Notta pir-
lance, it was like n*yUy and other plant*— they were
hcder and slieder. ile Lad noticed a bough for I J jears,
and it had never had terries upon it."
CCTHBERT BkDE.
CnHiSTMAS Decorations.— It is still a prevail*
ing idea, in Bome places, that if their decomtiona
be not cleared out of the church by Candlemoi
Bay (Purification, Feb, 2)j there will, within the
vear, be a death in the family occupying the pew
in which a berry or leaf is to be founci on the later
festival. Mr, Glyde, in hu* N<yr/oIk Garland^
quotes an East- Anglian authority as follows :—
** An old lady wbom I knew was 90 persuaded of tho
truth of tbis euperstition that she would not be contented
to leare the clearing of her pew to the constituted autho-
rities, but uaed to send her servaot, on Candlemas ETe*
to Bee that her own seat, at any rate, waa free from
danger."
E DUOBUS.
Crows taken to Cnvncn at Christmas
TiME.— The following is from a Weardale publica-
tion {King Edward in WeardaU) : —
" It appears to have been customary in Germany in
the fourteenth centurv to tike cuckoos to church. de«
bastian Brant^ in a book published at that time, accuses
his countrymen of taking hawks and houada to church,
and interrupting divine service. And it appears from a
tr^inslation of one passage that iho cuckoo was eometlmes
taken abo :—
* Into the church then comes iuioth«r sotte,
Withoutcn dtrotion, jetting up and down,
Or to be teen, and show his garde cote.
Another, on his fistc a sparhawke or fawconCj
Or else a cuckoo.' *
"About one hundred years later than the time mi
which the GermaD accused his countrymen of interrupt-
ing divine worship by taking hawks, Ice, to church, (li«
practice of taking crow* to church wa» indulged in even
by the church 'goers in Weardale.
" The personal ariswers of two WolsinishamUes to
charges of *brawlin<7 or misconduct in the church at
Wtdsingham/ given FcbruATV 3rd, 1570, are as follows: —
* The personal answer cf Jolm Laborne of the. same
(W « ■ ■^- -V ^-^ r- n-ed 20 years. He saith that
U)M ^ be,thecxaminate,cametotbe
cli II I '>ne crowe into the said church
bjforc acrvicij . iiiii -lio. WiUiam Marley, toke the said
crowe from thi.<i ciaminate, and tlirew the same into a
porch ther ; and he saiih. upon his oath, that be knoweth
not whoe put the strawc through the sn\d crowe's nose,
and dyd not with the m\d crowe perturb the service,
then bcin;? unbegun. — John Laborne.' Tho personal
answer of William Mai ley. ' Ue wiltli that, upon
Christenmaseven la-^t, byforij the monting praier, John
Laborne brought a crowe into the cburcl), bjfor« tho
service, which thii cxamicuite toke into his hands, and
* "See Strutt's SpitrU and Patimcs, p, 26."
610
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5F^&II.DBC.2S,7i.
SnI h etrawe crosf e in htr mouth, lo tee hoir she coultl
JO ; i^vliereat tbc miniBttr tm^t ' Yl U a ibvii« for to
briEige anjT Aueli to tbe cbtircb/ to whdtn Lftbonie
uiewered, ■ Yt 11 ^ell yf jc doo no wo»ep^ And tbb
exciminAtc willd tbc tuiniBtcr to g^ to lerTic&j imd tbe
CTuwG sbotild tiot treble blm."
Authcr's Oven on the Carrox. — Six yeara
ago (IVam. of Scotiuk AntiquarUsj March» 1868)
an aMcnipt wn^ made to dtdcover the site ot thli
interest iug relic, without bucccbs. It is to b«
hoped, however, that it mny jot be found , ns it
would be a eali^fuction to know the ex.u-t spot
where possiblj tbe oldest Btone building of Roman
days in Britaio once atocKl, and might have itood
till now but for the act <jf a Vimdul land-owner,
I do not obflerve any notice of it in *^ N. & Q/*
It is fipired in Gordon's Jtinararintu S^tenlno-
nahj where there ia & description of it ; and it is
also noticed In Peoaanl'a Northern Tour. In the
Appendix to Ejctmcta tiE Cr0niei4 Beodt ( Abbots-
fora (Jlub)f p. 254^ there i^ a curioiia account of it
by Sir AVilUani St. Ckir, of Roslin, in IMjO^ mho
calls it ^* Julius huif/' the name by which it was
then known, supposed to htiTc a traditionary refer-
ence to Julius A^vicoljL In the early oeoturiea,
after Ronmn oc4?upittion had ceased, a stone or n
stone buildin^f was i\ kndrmvrk often referred to.
Dr, John Stuart, in a note to the Preface of The
Booh «tf Dur (Spalding Club)i mentions, in illua-
tRition of this, that the Ei*t:ite of " Stanehouse/'
or " Stenlioufie," on or near which thia celebrated
building: stood, no doubt llm.^ acquired its name.
The mill of Btanhouso was ^'^r^intcd to tbc Abbey
of Kewbottle early io the thirteenth century, by
Adam de Morham, or Malherb^ a member of a
KortiiEtn fiiuiily, wiio wore benefactors to i\w\%
bourse {New bo tt le CI la rt u la ry ). A n d la t er i n tb at
century, on 2nd Juh% XtWZ, William Gurhiy
ptinted a piece of himl ta make a " atagnunj/' or
pool, for tne Mill of St4iohous, which (the ^rant
aayji) "juxta funmm Arihuri infm baroniam de
Dunypas si turn est," &c. Here wc have the two
Barnes "Stcohousc" and ''Arthur's Of en." It
was to mend the ujill-duui of this* mill that the
uniiiuc stnicture was destroyed, last century^ hy
the owner of the c^t^te, whose naiuo has been
discreetly kept in the back^^n'nunil, doubtless to
Bpare the feelings of his Buece,^j*or9, In strict
justice, it ou^ht to be inscribed on ?;ome perm a-
netit memorial, to be fi-tcd en the site, whenever
thIa shall be discovered, Anglo- Scores.
"MAaHriT."-^Under this word, which has been
ndded to Xarcs's (Ibn^nr)^ by the learned editors
of the nc^v edition (London," 1872), Messfii, HaUi-
well anti Thouuxa Wright, the following lines are
quoted i—
*' Fill fal] thy 9fti1ei, that after- times mnj know
Wbftt thoa to tbeiio our tiniei d«<at rricruUy ibow;
That as of thee the like wju neriir be^ri);
They cjMWno tbi3<! with a mftrruft or b mard/'
Tajlot*s WtiTkiM 1634^-
But no e^pknation of the word is giTen, and I
am, therefore, entitled to conclude tikat the edttois
did not know what to make of it* Surely it is
nothing more or less than the French word mmUti^
wluch is still in cotnmon use in the sanse of
**fooFi botibJo or cap," and '*whim, hobby.*
Littre'a dcdnitton of the word ia the first of
primitire sense runs oa follows : —
" Espies de secptn qui fit nimiDiit^ d'une t£t« eoiiSe
d*uu cmpufihon blgairi il« diffdrisntct conleun,, et CH™
do grelota ; c'eftt rattribut de la FoJie^ ct c'6talt c«lui del
foue det rois."
As for the deriratioD, he says, **I1 vient de
Marie de la ineme fti^on que mariontutU. M<mU^
pour Marwtic est un des diminutifa de MaHe^^and
he then proceeds to quote a passage in support of
this atiiertioii.
As for mard in the aboTC lines, tt U explained
in its proper place in KareSj and ^ the Fr, mer^L
F. OaAHCE.
Bydenbiim Hill.
A Local Traditidk of tue Goo^MAOoa
Hills.— About five miles south- eitst of the toini
of Cumbridf^e, and in the county of the ttmi
name^ are situated the GrOg-Moco^ Hi Us. Tfiey
are an offwhoot of a r^nge of chalk nilla, known m
the East Anglian heights, which run thitiitgfa tbftt
part of the country. Many barrows are found ia
the locality, which are auppoaed to he of earif
British origin. Here, too, stood the camp of Tia-
dlcbury, or Wandlebury, like arise of Britij^h coa-
st met ion. Like other plaees that boost of remote
antifpiity, it has its legends and traditions.
One tradition, rehtive to the origin of these
hillij (which I heard from an elderly man Hiring in
the ncitthbourhood), may be worth recording in
the pages of " N. & Q.," especially as I hare never
scon or beard of it being anywhere in print. It
asserts that previous to the form at too of these
hills (which are three in number), and near to the
same spot, was a very large cave^ which waf
inhabited by a giant and hia wife (a giantes?) cf
extraordinary stature, whose names were Gog aad
iliigog. They did not live very happily t-ogether,
for scarcely a day passed by without a quarrel
between them. On one occasion the giantess i.o
outraged the giant, that he swore he would de*troj
her life. She instantly tied from the cave ; te
quickly pursued her ; but she running faster ihaa
her husbnnd, he could not overtake her. (t<*fr, io
his anger, i^tooped down, took up a hand fid d
earth and threw at her j it mii^scd her, but where
it fell it niised a hill, which is seen to the pre^aa*^'
day. Again the coniged giaut threw earth at hii
wifCf but agitin it missed her ; where it fell it w^
the cause of the second bill. Magog still kept ap
her pace ; but aguin the giant, in hii rage, thre*
more earth at his wife ; but this ttujt it com-
pletely buried her alife, and whem she fell is
marked by the highest hUl of the three. So iod^
SI' a n. Dec. 26, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
511
the Icical tradition respecting the origin of the
■ Goj^- Magog Hills, H. C. Lofts.
TnK DiviNi^fo Rod, which, according to Brand
{Fopulor AntxqaitUjt.vol. iii. p. 332, Bohn*s edition,
1841)), wjfcs kQO>ro in the time of the prophet
** ekiel, in hailetl as \mug something new under
the sun by the O^rantham Journal of Dec 5th,
1674* One of its items of Falltlngliam i]itelUg«Dce
sjs follows : —
• A Novelty,— During tlie last few dnyt, & man, wha
ftlet He is by trade a stooerruLsoa, and & native of WiM-
^' , has l>cen asto&tahtng some of tbo principal inlitibi-
of ttiia town and neighbourhood by hia norel
I of fthowinf^ the proper lcM;alit; where water is to
Jte found, and the exact place for well fiiukin^, Hia
Imothod is to obtain from a hedge or tree ft piece of thiu
E in the shape of a V, and, taking' hold uf each arm
« twi^, one in ea^^h hand, witli the palma of hii
I upwordi, at the iame time extending; the twig very
ide, he proceeds th go over the ground in a stixtniuj^
Ipotture, and where there is water to be found (by ainkin^
^ » wtU) the itick or twig is perceived to be turning up-
wardj like the letter V reversed. It is certainly a curious
L proceedtng; and there appears to be very atronj; mag-
inetiim^ or eome other unseen agency at work, as not a
er, hAnd, or arm of the man inaves whiUt the stick
t motion. Two or three strong men have hold his
I during the operation; but the atick wooM sooner
: than be stopped in turntn^. He boa strong and
good recoramcndationg to support him, with the fact
ih&l he hai never ^ct once failed to Ijnd water, where
^^ the wella have been sunk at the place he ba« pointed out.- '
^m ThiB seems to me quit^ in the tone of a ** N. & Q."
^BChrittmiia Number. St. Swithin.
^B [We miut request eorreapondentfl defliring infonnatlon
* on fftinilj matter! of only private interest, to affix their
namfl>e and addre«ee« to their queries, in order that the
»n9wen may t>e addressed Co them i^eot.]
Tea-Table. — I think it was Leigh Hunt who
[lamented tlie fewness of our poems relating to the
lenjojinent of food. Considering the vast amount
[of rhyming on wine, it seems somewhat strange
I the more innocent beveragea should not have
I found more lanreate*, I have just come across
liMjme ver^e^ in the Frcc-fliinktr (No. 23, June 9,
J 1718} on tea, and I would gladly Iciiru their author-
Ifehip. for, ajrhougli »Tttten in a bygone taate, they
\HXt Ktill iuteresting ;—
** TnK Tea*Tablk.
I In the Manner of Wallord
Poets invoke, wft^Ti they reheHrse
In t ■.: Dreams^
Souv e,
Aii'i :■ - - : 1- -lis.
But hero a Real Muse inspires :
The tepid Liquor, the iniparts,
Qires to the liriiin Poctick r irea,
Aiid nobler Raptures to our Hearts.
VTittle from her Hand each ravish'd Guest
Receives his Cup with Vapours crown'd^
He thinks *tis JoTe*8 immortal Feiwt,
And Venus deals the Nectar round.
As o'er each Fountain Poets sing
Some lovely Ouardtan Nymph bears sway,
Who from the consecrated Spring
Wild Beasts and Satyrs dnvos away.
So hither dares no Savage press,
Who Beauty's Sovereign Pow'r denies ;
All, drinking here, hor Cliarms confeM,
And own the Conquest of her Eyes.
When Phcubus trv'd his Herbs in vain
On Hyacinth, had She been there,
With Ten she had reviv'd the Swain,
And nfade him live to die for her."
Dudley Armttaob,
Illttstratorb of Popular Books.— I have
often wished to discover the naraea of the nrtiuts
who designed the illuBtnitions of some of the
popular books for children. I have a copy of The
Cries of London^ small 8vo,, publishetl by Harris,
1804. It haa ^M8 elegsmt characteristic cngrav-
ingr?," truly described aa such, the figures well
drawn and grouped, many evidently taken from
well-known characters. The accompanying rhymes
are very inferior, and apparently written for the
pictures. I also poBsees a copy of Bloomfield^s
Rtiral Talcs, BaUacU, and Songt^, small 8vo.
(Vernon & Hood, and Longman & Rees, 1&(12),
Thifl ia ilkistrated by several remarkably well-
dni^wn and carefully -executed woodcuts. The style
is like Cniikshank^s in the decision of the drawitig,
but is more careful in the details. On comparing
theui with the illustrations of Hone's Evcr[f-Day
Bool% there appear many points of resemblance,
but the date, 1802, makes it scarcely credible that
even the octogenarian artist should have drawn
them. Z. Z.
The Selkirk Pie. —
** At a meeting of the Poltoo Oommtssioneni of tho
Royal burgh of Selkirk, a few days ago, the business
for which the meeting had been specially convened
being dif|»osed of, Provost Anderson moved that the
Council meet the night before the cleotiou as usimL Mr.
Waddel ; ' What for?'— Mr. Falla : *Ston ! the Provost's
motion ia not seconded.' — Dean of Guild Pringle seconded
themotion.— Mr. Wftddcl : * What to do ?*— Mr W. Brown:
'To have a pie/— Mr, Wriddel : * Who psys for the pie I
Do you pay it yourselves]' — Mr. W. Brown : * It comca
off the rent oflFLingtie (one of the town's farms). It has
been a custom for -lOC^ years.* "
Is the origin of this custom known, and where
can I find further particulars respecting it ?
Everard Home Coleman.
71, Brecknock Road, N.
•' Epitafi Giocosl*' — I have just come into the
possession of a copy of this work, which bears the
well-kuown stamp of the He her Library, " Biblio-
theca Heberiana.'* As it is new to me, I ahall feel
obliged if any correspondent to " N. k Q." can in-
form me if it is of any rarity. It is titled U
Cimii€rio Epitafi Giocon dc' Hignori Gio. Frat^
612
NOTES AND QUERIES.
L0^8.ILDm.2^71
Cisco LQreniiino & Fktw MkhidCf &c:, Venice,
1680. It coufsiita of two part-e, the first 68 pp.,
tbe second ^G pp. ; i^ a kind of 24iuo., &nd neatlj
full- bound in velluuL B>
G A iTES : " ErrcnuK " &d — dm any of your readers
give lue the ctlgln of the games so common in the
United Sutea, called *^poker/^ "gruh," "euchre" ?
The two former nra chiefly played by gamblers.
Tho name of the latter is evidently French, The
knaTes or jacks of the colour card turned up as
tramp being the two highest trumps, one known
as "right bower/' and the other as ** left bower."
Borne persons insist that this is a German game,
and the names of thcHe cards Bhouhl be ** baiier/'
Hi the jacks are termed, the word meaning peasant.
I have lived in Gerniauy many yearsj and never
Baw the game played ; but in the United States
it ia more played than any other game of cards.
Jjfttely an innoTation has been made on the »ame
by the introduction of a blank aird called the
*^ little joker/' which is the highest tnimpcard in
the pack W. H, M,
Spakibh Lkgends.^ John Foster, in his well-
known Mstayx, mentions two Sp:inidh legends, but
without assigning the authorship. The first la
the monkish story relaticg how once the Bevil, in
his wicked roundi, came to a village where a pas-
toral simplicity of maoners prevailed^ and, by his
eeducing art a, iipcedily etitnipped the villagers into
all manner of evil But the njonks proved too
many for Satan ; got him under their thumb,
compelled him to put on the liabit of their order,
and to ppcat*h fio powerfully tliut the at raying
Esheep were all lirought back within the fold again.
The second story ii* I but of a man who, in pursuit
of vcngcimeej fitendily follows his intcndetl victim
from town to town, until he fiuidly comes up with
him in n remote part of South America, and there
murderi him. Eequiied the original sources of
thesfl two legends, David Blair,
M«ltourne.
Anacreon, — Who wfva the actual author, and
what the date, of the odes print e*! as Anacreon's ?
I ihould be glad of a reference to any work on the
aubiect. JIortimfh Colli s*s,
KdowI EI ill, Berks.
Flemings settled at Korwicti in 1611.— A
considerable number of Fleminp ap|>oar to have
been sM?ttled in Norwich at the commencement of
the seventeenth century, and to have had a separate
ad mini Html ion for civil matters, composed of nota-
bles of their fellow countrymen, I should be
glad to know whether anyilimf,' h^s been published
concerning this colony r»f Fluuiin^'^, and, further,
Tvbetlicr Any ^lcmir^h archives oxi^it at Norwich or
elsewhere that w^ould render it poJ^fiible to nscertain
the dates of decease of Victor Merghele, son of ^
James^ cloth-weaver, and of Fmnoev ^wregjbo,
daughter of Nicolaa, hk wife, both of Ypra, «^Ued
in Norwich im 161 1, and the names of th^ cM-
dren with descendants, if any;
W. H. Jamto Wuu
Brugea
Faultless Plays. — Stephen Goison, in his
Schooh of Ahii€^ referring to " Playes that ut
without rebuke/' mentions ^* twoo prose Boi&ii
pkied at the Belsauagt, whera yon fthall finde
neuer a woorde without wit, neaer a line withoot
pith, neuer a letter placed in vaine** Gin any oC
your readen inform me what play a these wene, or
where I shall find any further reference to tbemf
CtjRioTTs CewsTiAir Namkb.— In tMs pinifa,
pareDts have a great liking for what are commonly
tenned fioe names for tletr danghteis, snch at
Lavinio^ Thereia, Angelina, &&, Among othen
occurs " Doraey/' After puzzling over thia foe
some time, I &id it ia intended for Tbeodmia.
Almina and Mym are not uncommon. OaeisSdicta
Are these names found anywhere else f Are th«
last two taken from names of couirtiiei in the New
Testament ? I see AJamina is given in " K. & Q.*
aa a gipsy name ; perhaps Almina ii a eontiactioiL
In the church register occurs the name Mealiha.
1 imagine this to mean Amelia^ a name uied ia
this parish. In the churchyard of Morthoe, wcti
llfracombe, on a tombstone erected two yeant ^^
is written Tam^zin, a woman's name. Is Ibis in-
tended for Thomassin ?
K L. BLENEiNiOpp.
Springtljorpe.
Toe Bairn's Piece* — On the baptism of a
child in Scotland, the person who carries the child
to church is furnished with a packet of Civke or
other eaLibles, called the bairn *s piece, Thi^ sh&
is bound to preaent to the first person she meet4
on leaving the house, whoever it may Ije, What
is the origin of this custom, and its meaning T
W. T, W.
AEMft OP HiTRRT, — A Norfolk family of this
name have used the anus — Argent, three lioni'
beads erased. Can any one supply the tincture
of the lions' heads } Argekt.
Miss Jane Cave. — I should be glad of any
infonuation regJirding thifj lodj', Wab she an
authoreas, or a composer of music 1 AM.
Eev. Mr. HusTiynroN, CrtAn^is at Alejtwi,
Beitihii Factqrt. — Where can I find his Travels^
about lUiiO-lTfiOl He brought a letter from the
Samaritans to London (tnth Siulman'a translation
of Tlapbjipl lluvid Sody's work on the Ten Trtbc^
London, IS ID, 1 vol. Svo.)* Uuntington'a statui
is mentioned in Joat's QiBchichtc dcr IsFacHtenj
voL viiL S. M. Deach.
V*S.U.Dec.28,71.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
il3
pAlTTLr OP %1NZAN.— Sir J»>lni NuTTei*, Kt., of
ieodeD, Berkf>j died on 2l3t October, in
TElizabeth, 1564; and in the In(iiU!»ition itHien
on his obit, at Abingdonj on 25th Junuary foUow*-
ing, it was found that he, by two deeds^ dated the
£5th April and 2nth August, 1555^ Rettled c^rtAin
messuages and lands, in Ashnmpsted and Harap-
ated^Norris. Berks, to certain uses ; and, amongst
others, to the use of his illegitimate diiughter, by
Alice Graunt, Anne Norres, alias Grtiunt^ and her
issue ; and that, at the date of the inqne^jt, this
Anne Norres was the wife of Alexander Zynzan,
gentleman, and was then living at Ashampsted.
Can any reader of ** N* & Q." connect this AJex-
ander Zjnzan with Sir Kobert Kinmn, Kt, of St.
Alban*i*, who was Equerry of the Stablea to Queen
Elizakrh in 1585? (See ** N. & Q.,'^ 51*' S. iL
20. 27.) B. W. Orkenfibld.
Soathftmpton.
**HuMorRi8T/' — "But soon after (for flatterera
and hamont^U have no sure foundatioa) he,' vi^,
Hnljin't de Burgh, ** fell into the King a heavy
indi^'mition;* &e.— Coke, Proeme to the Second
}iitnt€. In what aense ia the Italicized word
I here } Middle Templar.
Mast HA Bradley. — There were fonnerly four
alnuihoufes for poor people on Hampatead Heath.
Tbcse were tjvken Into the grounds of Sir Fmncis
Willes (see Park's Topogra'phy of Ilainpttcad^
p. xxxvi). This worthy man built (kre^ in com-
pensation in the bottom, now the Yale of Health,
In one of the houses, prior to their reraoval, lived
l^lartha Bradley, who, with some g-ipsles, had been
conceraed in the murder of Thomaa Cowley on
Fortune Green. She was acquitted for want of
evidence, but was always heard, while ho^^ering
oyer her wretched fire in the evening, and lying
awake at night, to acknowle«l^e hej- crime and
entreat pardon* She refused the parish allowance
of linen, as a comfort she would not fdlow herself.
Where were these almshouses situated, and where
can one leam anything more about Martha Bradley }
C. A. Ward.
Mayfair.
the lacomp&rabld CurioBitiM in
both 9JS well by Waters aa Cvphcra, Ex-
(
pin I'le Familiar to tho Meancit Capiieity
B\ "'ter^ of Stfite may manage the liitrijorues
of of Prince*, tbe Lnjlics
Coi I'i ejGTV ordinnry rt^rion
^ * -V - -'- ' ' Privuto
Pub-
tt.t( iJy U. E.^ Gent, Lnn-
dtr, BroQki at tho Angd in
Ciii 1...... ,,.. „_i/»
^ author of the alx»ve ? T do not find
Um ...: ^ ''^ ^^' ' f ':«= of reference. From
the Vt> hwe been the editor
t»n!v. . Inmk in t\vy Bvrou
collection in the Chethain Library* It is bound
up NNith a copy of N. B.s (Noah Brydges's) Steno-
graphie, 1659, " priuted by J. G. for the Author.'*
The volume hm the following autograph : '* A
present fr<:»m y* In^'enious Author. October y« 8,
hs. Samuel Cromlehoime," Cromleholme was
master of Paul's School, ltj57, when he succeeded
John Langley, John E. Baiukt.
Sam SELL BT Harlinoton. in Bedfordshire.
— Where w^as this place, if there ever was such a
village or hamlet 1 In vol i. of Mr. Offor's col-
lection of John Bunyan*a Works^ 1858, p. 50, he
quotes —
*'A Bektlon of tht Imprlsonmoni of Mr* John
Bun.^an, kc. , , , WrUtcn by HtTTi«elf, ntid ncrer before
printffl. . . . Loudon : Printed for Jamea Buoklnndj at
the Buck, iu Paternoster Row, mdcclxv«
*' The relation of my imprisonment lit the month of
JVovembtr, I6ti0.
** Upon the 12tb of this instant November, 1660| I WM
desired by some of the friends in the country to come to
leach at tfamHelli by Uarlington, m Eedford<bire.*'
I have hunted high and low {tm the saying is)
for this place, but cannot find it anywhere. Har-
iington is, curiously enough, near to Ghalgrave,
the pLocc where, I believe, Bunyan was l)om. See
** N. & Q.," 5«' S. ii. 86. D. C. E.
The Crescent, Bedford.
The Rev. Ralph CrDWoRTH, D.B.— Is the
ancestry of the author of The Tnic InUlledutil
Sy&tcTH' of th4 Universe Itnown beyond his father,
the Rev. Ralph Cud worth, successively yicar of
Cogffe^hall, Essex, and rector of Allor, Somerset-
shirt^ I An elder brother of the author of tho
lHtdli:etual Stphm^ Capt. Jamea Cudworth, came
to New England in 1632, and settled at Scituate,
in the colony of New Plymouth, where he waa
prominent in public affairs. He favoured the
largest religious liberty. A descendant of his, the
Rev. Warren H. Cudworth, is an able and popular
Unitarian clergyman in this city.
JoHJT Ward Deak.
Boston, ^rassacbusettt.
rXotes for the biojtrapby of Ralph Cudworth may bfl
found in " X. k Q-," 2"^ S. fii. 230; ?iii. 631.]
The Salic Law. "Supposing it to have pre-
vailed in England from the time of the C'Onquest,
who would now be on the throne ; or, in other
words, who is the present heir in tail m.'vie of
William the Conqueror ? A. C.
thattl ve^
its ofi>j,.N iM.ui ail i*ir-iMiii-.ii- ■ fi»e
ancient House of Byron. The ^ n-
^inatly bore the old Byron r*--'' '^d-
lct3 rnhiinced giL, within ; '^
I Bhivll bt ^lid \o V^ "\ul- . -^^"^
514
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[6* 8. IL Dec. 26, 74.
this bordure was borae ; when, and by what
authority (if by any), it was dropped.
J. Woodward.
The Will of Sir Lewis Clifford (dated
1404.)— In this document occurs tlie following
passage: —
** Now first I beauethe to Syre Phylype la Vache,
Knight, my masse-boke & my portoos, in my boke of
tribulacion to my daughter his wyf."
What is the meaning of " portoos," and " boke
of tribulacion " ; is there anything known about
the family of La Vache, or De la Vache? The
name is in the Battle Abbey roll. C. L. W.
" Plus est en vous." — On the Gmthuyze pew,
in the Church of Notre Dame at Bruges, this
motto of the family appears. What does it mean?
C. W. BiNOHAM.
"Pro matria." — I have an old earthenware
bowl, which I obtained at Stockholm. It appears
to be of English pottery, with transfer printed
designs. On the inside is painted a large cat, and
the inscription "the honourable society pro
MATRIA." Can any of your readers tell me any-
thing of this society ? F. S.
/ NATHAN BAILEY'S DICTIONARIES.
(5*h S. i. 448, 614 ; ii. 156, 258.)
At the risk of falling under the censure of one
of your correspondents who has said (but not in
"N. & Q/') that "some bibliographers (if not
most) are sadly careless dogs," I venture to con-
tribute a list of nearly all the editions of my
namesake's Dictionary, copies of which it has been
my custom for many years to examine as they fell
in my way. The editions are much intermixed,
and the details here given of them are not to be
found in any of the bibliographical manuals. It
will be seen from the list that the conjectures of
your octo-initialled correspondent (p. 14 of last
vol.) are pretty accurate ; but there seems a serious
misprint in one of the dates. A few editions are
still wanting to complete this list. These, I have
ascertained, are not to be found at the British
Museum, or at the Public Libraries of the Uni-
versities ; but probably some of your correspon-
dents will interest themselves in examining copies
in their hands with a view to complete the list.
I may add that the early editions are those which
are now most frequently to be met with : —
1721. 8x0. [The first edition.] An Universal Ety-
mological Engliih Dictionary, This edition, which is
in the Brit. AIus., is mentioned in " N. & Q." (S'"" 8. ii.
258).
1724. 8vo. "The second edition." (S**" S. ii. 156 ; Brit
Mm. ; Bodl.)
1726. 8ro, "The third edition." (The Rev. T. L. 0.
QMfie^ M.A.)
1727. 8to. The first edition of a Snpplementuir
volume, containing additional words, called " Volume iL
See 1731. (W. Harper's Catabrae.)
1728. 8vo. "The fourth edirfon." (Brit. Mna)
1730. Folio. [The first edition, entitled,] "DicHmh
arium Britannicum, : or a more Compleat Umfertal Etj-
mological English Dictionary than any Extant. Collected
by several hands. The Mathematical part by G. Qordon,
the Botanical by P. Miller. The Whole Reris'd and Im-
Frov'd with many thousand Additions, bv N. Beiley.*'
t was dedicated by George Gordon and Nat Beiky to
Thomas, Earl of Pembroke and Montgomery, who
"vast and curious collection of the choicest books "
referred to. It was illustrated by ''near fire Hundied
Cuts." (Library of Wm. Booth, Esq., Manchester; Brit
Mus.)
1731. 8to. Supplementary Tolome, entitled f%i
Universal Etymological, ke, " The second edition witk
many additions." This impression, now penes nu, con-
sisted of **an additional collection of words (not in the
first Tolume)." It is called " Volume ii.," but there ii
no volume i. (so marked) to correspond. This editkn
had "above 500 cuts."
1733. 8vo. "The sixth edition, with considenble
improvements." Title as in the early editions. (In my
hands : Brit Mus.)
1735. 8vo. " The seventh edition, with considersble
improvements." (Rochdale Reference Library.)
1736. Folio. "The second edition, with numerouf
additions and improvements." Title as in the former
folio edition, except that it is added that the anthor wm
assisted in the Etymological, &c., part by T. Lediard,
Gent., Professor of the Modem Languages in Lower
Germany. (Chetham Library, Manchester : Brit Mvl)
In this ytrar Bailey issued another work, whidi be
entitled " Dictionarium Domestieum, Being a New and
Compleat Dictionary. For the use both of City end
Country." 8vo. (J; E. B.) This was still on sale in
1779, price 5s,
1737. 8vo. " The eighth edition," under the old titla
(Brit Mus.)
1737. 8vo. "The third edition" of the Sopple-
mentary volume called vol. ii. With 500 cuts, (orii
Mus. ; " N. & Q.," 5'*" S. i. 514.) The two volumes dated
this year are by Lowndes called the best Svo. edition,
adding that it contained many words omitted in the
previous folio editions. 15<.
1740. Svo. " The ninth edition." (Brit Mus.)
1742. 8vo. " The tenth edition." (Brit Mus.)
1745. Svo. " The eleventh edition." (In possession of
W. Winters, Esq.)
1747. 8vo. "The thirteenth edition, with consder-
able improvements." (Brit Mua ; " N. & Q.," 5** 8. L
514; J. B. Shaw. Esq., Manchenter.)
1749. 8vo. Fourteenth edition. (W. Harper's (3ata-
logue.) Mr. Axon of Manchester has a thirteenth edition,
dated 1749.
1 Svo. Fifteenth edition. Chalmers says that
this edition was published about 1759.
1755. Publication of Dr. Johnson's Dictionary,
1755. Folio. " A New Universal Etymological Eng-
lish Dictionary," &c. ; " illustrated with Copper Plates.
Originally compiled by N. Bailey. Assisted,' as before.
" And now republished with many corrections, Additions,
and Literate Improvements, by Different Hands. . . . Bj
Joseph Nicol Scott, M.D."
1757. 8vo. " Seventeenth edition." Price 6*. (3rit
Mus.)
1759. Svo. The New Vniversal English Dictionary.
" The fourth edition [of the supplementary vol]. (Jbrs-
fully corrected by Mr. Buchanan." Pnoe 6«. (Brit ,
\li>aa.\
5" S. U. Vte. 20, 71.J
KOTES AND QUERIES.
515
¥
17«fi. 8to, The firth rdUion of the foregoing.
B. r \\ k Q,/' fi*** S- it 150. T!iBre la aomi;-
tli- ''Out this o(litioti which " B. B/* can per-
It) 1701 ft Dutch cilition was pabliBhed^ thtu fintitled :
'* '' ' "'■ ■ ' ■'" ': ' ' V ■' r. '^ :i Nathan
len bey
I H halfic
vcrmebr^t vuti J heoiloi Ai'tiold, w. iiorUaiL Leipz. und
ZilltiohaTi, 1761,'* 8m
ITiSU Sva. Eigliteenth edition.
1704. 8to. Title us in the early editions. "The
ftwentteth edition." "To which are ndled abo\e 3,000
wordj iiiter*pEracd in their proper places, none of which
•re t9 h« f'niTid in any former edition of thii book/' tlj,
(Brit. Mus.)
ir>^4> Folio. Lowndes mentions a folio edition of
ihl« Ar\\t^. rrlited by J. N. Scott, M.I>. •* The beft edition
of t! r W6rk, formerly in the greatest repute/*
It 1^ s.
i; . . . . *'The one and twentieth edition/' ^$.
(Brit^ Mua.j
1772- Folio. A JViftw Uniwersol Etffmoioffirfd Enfflish
/>nff»ofttii y, " Reviled and coiTecled by Jostpb ^'icol
4>co 1 1 , >M> . " Co J >pe r-plfttes an d en t:m ? e J f ron t . { Bri t.
Mnt,) lu the 1770 Gour^l Calaimjue oj Boohi pwhliahcd
ia London eince 1700, thia edition U mentioned* price
17'^ " ruder the earlf title. "The three and
twt I n/' tli. In the Brit, M Lie. this copy is
rmn;; ic Supplementary *' voL ii.," dated 1737-
l^fiS. Svo. j4 jV<?w^ Univmal Kfymologicai En^ltth
I>ietioaar!f. '* The fifth edition *' {of "the supplomenWy
tolmrie). Price ().f. (Brit. Mui)
17*2. Svo. Ah Cnivitsal Etymolofficalt kc, **The
lUf and twentieth edition, carefully enlarged and cor-
^^ by Bdword Harwood, D.I>/' Price 7l* (Brit,
; Camb. Uni?. Liby, ; Bodl.)
8to. " A nfew edition, being the twenty -fifth,**
In po«8c»iion of the writer. There were added 2,fKK)
fro^« Ui be found in no other edition of Uie work. 7m.
*' Arnong the numerous cWitiona of this work, some are
mtititnted by omitting the orif^inal words ; other imprea-
cions have been hastily und carelessly executed ; and in
K tate one» where improYements are pretended, the price
if odTunccd/' Col, Fishwick has a twenty-fifth edition,
dated 17i*'i
There was another Dutch edition this year, entitled
*^ K"/'/ /"'* f*'"f^'f^f')><^lisches in>?6T6«cA, ehemals
mil i.tjicn getrsgen von Theodor
Aril yerbesscrt und Tcrmehrt von
Anton ijii t 1. iui-kii^ P, V* sech&te Auflagc. Lcipz.
nnd ZiitlichriD, 17Sa/' Sto.
1781*. 8ro. ** The twenty-sixth edition," ''Besides
retninifig the two thousand words added and tntersfiersed
In their proper plncof, in the Inst edition, together uith
»n foTtner improvement*, some furtheran»enilt«entshavo
been made/' Printed at Edinburgh. (J. E. B]
1S02, Svo. Thirtieth edition. Printed at Glasgow.
J. E. Bailey.
Sif«iford> Manchester.
DANTE AND HIS TRANSLATORS.
(C»^ S. ii. 3C4, 430.)
I hare to thunk two of your correspondents for
khti trouble taken in courteously disputing, at some
r^ ' ty rendering of a verse from the Divina
J. For the present, I have taken leave to
restrict my reply to the explicit and, in thi« ques-
tion^ sintrulorly significant note from the Venetian
edition of 1568, which the literary research of Mr.
PiCTON hak enabled, and frank candour impelled,
him to put forward in the controversy. Two lines
of the continuous prose may, tt strikes me, without
changing the sequence of a word, be bo adjusted on
the page — the cited words, on the one hand, of the
debated third verse,* and, on the other, the gloss
severally of each— as to bring out, in strong and
the clearest light, the intention of the commentator,
I venture to re-tranecrihe therefoi-e, so adjusted,
the note itaelf ; and therewith in correspondence,
at* well a3 respectively to any ditfering apprehension
of the sense, to rortransUte it. —
The Note (of Bernardino Daniello da Lueca).
" Horn 8« tu tion vedi, dice seguitando Vir^Ho, dlnanit
a me aleun' ombra, noa ti dci mararigUare pii!i chefaresti
de* Cicli ;
che perclie
L'rKo cio t cieloj
non rKGOjiBRA Don occupa
air altro
il RAOorOt la Ince;
che Bfl fosse altramento, cto c che Pun oielo occupaflie 11
lumo air altro, non potrebbe esso lumc penetrando per
qualli f mofltratsi alia vcduta nostra ; ed 1 cieli qob diafani
e tr&njaparenti sariauo, ma per il contrario, sodi ed
opachL '
*' Now if thou seest not, aaith Virgil continuing, beforo
mo any shfidow, thou shoul cleat not more marvel than
thou wouldest do of the Qeuvons :
that for that
TUB OKK fhnt *s hearen
1.ETTETH not atoppeth not
to the other
the Rat, the light;
since, were it otherwt«e| thai is, that the one heaven did
intercept light to the other^ that light could not by
penctrittng through these show Itself to our sight, and
the heave iifl would not be diaphanous and transparent,
but, contrariwise, solid and opatjoe."
Erkmx
I was rather pleased to see the interest Mr,
PicTo.x takea in Italian llteniture, as appears frotu
his letter, p, 43n. At the Bame time, however, I
was not a little .surprised by reading what lie says
respecting the difHciiUy in knowing whether the
Italian article ** il " may .or may not have been
used by Dante in the verse he quotes, and that the
difficulty can only be solved by inspecting the
Vatican Codicl, of which he imagines that no
glimpse can be taken. But this show.i that he haa
overlooked the existence of the five or six hundred
Codices, MSS. of Dante's Divina Cwnmidia^ which
are scattered in the public and private libraries of
Europe. Were then the few preserved in the
Vatican Library to be withheld frotu inspection,
or even to perish, the difficulty which he alludes
to could be solved all tlie same. Very few, Indeed ,
• Pur^atono, C. liL 30.
t Tlie ordinary " queHi*" as I pretume. An airhaism T
a proviacaaliim 1 a n^ii print ?
•*--^
m
516
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*^8.ILDia28,71
are in the YaticAn^ perhaps not to ore than half a
doteiL But if he wanti to settle the question, he
may go to the British Museum^ where there are
fifteen, and some of them very valtiahle. He may
also come here to the Bodleian Library, where
thirteen are preserved, and open to infipection ;
flud if the librariej of certain Engliah noblemen
were more acc^sible, he would discorer many
othera. As for myself, bein^ a Catholic, I am
?rohibited by the will of Sir Thoraaa Phillipps, near
Cheltenham, to visit hia library ^ bnt I am told
that there too some Dante MSS. are preserved.
In the department of Julmn MS 3* in the Paria
National Library, there ara abont thirty-fiTC j in
Florence, they are numbered by hundreds ; and all
Uiese may be eonanlted by any one. It is quite
absurd then to auppoee that the Vatican onea may
{mhj settb the question, aa if they were to share
in literatare the infallibility which their owner
claims only for spiritual matters. Bealdes, they are
neither tho moat valuable nor the most ancient ;
and it ia al^o true that, if not all, many of the
varianii Iczioni of the one numbered 3199 have
bean publiBhed aomo fifty, at least, years ago.
GREa. Palmiiri,
Oxford,
• "A CuHiouB TnoRN*' (5*^ S. ii, ^9, 380,)—
In answer to the inquiry m to a " Glastonbury
thom,'^ or, aa commonly called, the " holy thorn,"
said to be in cxistonco at Groat ^Isdvern, though
familiar with Malvern and its vicinity for many
years J I have no co;;nizance of the tree there» But
a specimen of the so cidled Glustonbury thorn
does stand iu a garden upon Bromyard Down,
about eight miles from Malvern, within Hereford*
shire. The legend as to a thorn that formerly
ex:isted at Glftstnnbury Abbey is too well known
to be repeEitted in dctdl, but the fact wsis that the
monks or Glastonbury bad a thoru growing in the
precincts of the abbey, which i)Toduced a second
crop of flowers about Christmas-time, and they
insisted that it was true to Christ maii D«y, the
tree having grown from the staif of Joseph of
Arimnthea, who came from the East to plant
Chriitiiinity in Britaiu, A balhid, in the Somer-
setshire dialect, says : —
" Tho ainff het budiled and het ^rewr
And at Cliriatmaa bloomM tlie whoklfttlrof^.
And stiJl h?t blooms a.t Chriitma^ bright.
Bat beat tha zay at dork mtdnii^ht/*
However this variety of the hawthorn got to
GLxatonbury, the original tree continuerl in cxis-
tenco there to near the end of the reign of Charles I,
and was reganled with much curiosity and vene-
intiou ; but some pari tun ic;il hatcra of superstition
had it then cut down.
As this peculiarity of late or double- flowering
m shntbs ami troes am be propaf^t^d by grafting,
numerous graftB were obtainea by cumus ^t^m
from the original Glastonbury thorn, so tint
wherever this variety is now found it is mid that
it W81S derived from Glastonbmy, It h atill m-
ported of these grafted thoma Imt they pxodiMe
flowera at the midnight of Ohmtmas Eve ; bat it
is the Chriatmaa of lAa old styl^^ for the thc»ra
would not conform to new ideas ; and I have h^m
told that on this account the msitica, in many
pjirishes of Herefordahire, would only keep di
Christmas Bay ; and the dergymaji of the pUce,
to humour his flock, held a serviee in hia cnurdi
accordingly. In point of fact, I have received
bunches of half<^expanded lowers in the beginniag
of January from the tree referred to, and fom
another that I have seen in a gojden at Sucklej,
Worcestershire* No leaves were apparent, but
only half- developed flowers, and snch flowera prch
duce no fruit. The.se trees flowered ag^un, like
other hawthorns, at the usual time.
I must remark that this donble flowering af
shrubs and trees is not peculiar to the hawtheTii,
or, indeed, to the one located at Gbstonburyi aa
the following quotation from quaint old Aabrej'i
MaiuTal Rtmarkqu€s in the Cottnt^ of Wwi
(IC85) satisfactorily shows : —
"In Parham Fnrke, in Safibike (Mr, Boatele*«}t k i
ET^tty Baticnt thorns! that bloaaoma like that at Qlutoa*
ury ; the people flock thither to see it on Chrutinii
Day, But in tbo rode that le«d4 from Woreciter to
Droitwicbc if u. bInckthoraQ hedgQ at Clajiir half i mitt
long or more, that bksfocoes ftbout CbrittmaiHlAf^ fgr*
week or tnore topetbcr. Tho ground is cmlted Lotiglaad.
Dr. E2cr#l Tony fiayd that about Ronmy'-tQarBb [Eqrait«|]
tn Keoti are thorncs nntur&llr like that at OWoaborr*
The eoldlcrs did cut dowa that neer GUttonbmy ' tia
Btump remainea/'
The hedge at Claines, near Worcester, that
Aubrey mention s^ is no longer to be found, rooted
upi doiihtleas, long ago. But I Imve myself ob-
served the elder, dogvvood^ and some other shrubs,
produce a second crop of flowem late in the year;
and it La not unfrequentiy noticed in apple aad
pear treea. Even wild annual plants will of^
sionally produce late seconHary flowers on thdr
withered stalks, Edwin Lbes, F,LS.
Oreen Hill Saaimit, Worceil^r*
Warner, in the Appendix {p. v) to his Hutury
of the Ahh&if ofGlmton, and To}jm of Ghttonhun,
quotes the following tmdition from A LitiU
Monument to i/w omc^ J'ameu* Abbey ^ dated in
1716:—
''That St. Joseph of ArlmethiGa atid hU eompanioiii,
coorirLg tir^it and wear? to a hill^ within half a mtl^ d
ioutb^weit of wbere ijlasti^nburr now ftandp, red*i
tbcmflfiWes on the ri rfgo thoreof, for which remson tb^t
IiUIt to thii Terj daj^ ia called Weary-ttU-nUi ; aodtbjU
in the Tcry pluco where they rested Uiere sprtiaf «p •
miraculous thorn tr«c, which every yenr* at Chnatioii,
in the coldest jenrand weather, froat, snow, oriTh*U«r
else, tioTor fulled haddmg forth leaver and flowery of
which thorn I design to Bay more hereafter."
^ ^ot ^\dK^k. ?-«a A^^endtx, p, jixktL K
T. C. IT, wUl find in Honeys Table Book, vol li,
821 (Teg^g, Chcopside), a short ftccotint of Uie
plaatonbury Thorn. It there say a : —
' Tina exotic or EnBtcrn Thorn difTera from our com-
1 on* in putting out its leares very early in the
1 flowering titrici a year, for in mild reasons it
t-oucn now "^ ' r or December, and again at
|lkd mua] i on sort ; but the storied that
i told of ^ ^ -oming, and fading on Cbrist-
DM^day arti ridicuWudij and only monkish logendi/'
Thttfi fur Hone ; but Loudon says that it is the
ttjcox, a native of Siberiti, a variety of the
xycanlha phtifpkylla, and has the fruit black !
As to the legends being ridiculous, they who
bus write do not know anything about the matter.
here is a vast diflerence between the black or
fmit-beuring thorns and the white, fruitless ones j
nd Loudon, at page 382, writes :—
** Not only the difi^erent epeciea of Crataegus, bat those
of Mcflpitos, 8orbu9, Pyrup, and even Malas, Cydonia,
l/dtTielauchicr, Eriobotyra, and others can be grafted on
|tht! oommon hawthorn^ and in thia way ficld-hedgiw may
I rendered ornamental and even productive of uieful
TTi lung was meant by the distinction
nd Mf fruit^beariDg and fruitless tbomB,
aay ue ^nuicred out of the obscure hint given in
yVit Luitgar, Pertz, ii. 411 :—
** Itaqu^ more Bolito, cum omni aviditate etiollicitudine
rudibus Saxonum populia atudebat in doctrina prodeatiej
erutisquc ydolatHa fpmii, yerbum Vtl diligenter per loca
iingula sere re, seccleslas confttruere, et per eas eiugulos
ordinaro prestiyteroe, quoa Tcrbi Dei cooperatores slbi
notrivtrat,'*
What connexion the *' Thorn idoktry ** had with
Ihe ** Royal Thorn " which grt^w, eiiys Pliny in bis
Ta<, Hutonj^ on the Widls of Pnbylon^ is yet a
oystery ; l>ut T. C, U. will find thiit he has
lopened on to a birge field, if he follows out the
nystica] history of the Spin us or sloe-tree,
Lk Chevalier au Cnff.
"By ft r " ^ r' ' i>*, we bear that a vait
pi?fVCourse Thorn on Christmas Eve^
ticw Btilc ; i ! appointment, there wna
no appearaiici: of it's bloio tng, >v]ucb made them watch it
IftarroKrly the 5th of Januury^ the Chris tmaa Buy, old
' ' I .wed hb ufUttl, and in one*iday*s titiie wan
hcet, to t>ie great iiiortifieation of umuy
id neighbourhood J, who had tapp'd their
Ue feieTCQ days too §oion,*'—Ladie*' Magazine^ Jan* 20,
17S8L
Qrirts.
*'Hoa5tA!*T" (o"^^ B. ii, 329.)— It i?t perhap**,
D|H>*t»iliIe U> determine the right spelling of such
ffi wnffl fiH thh; but the following extract from Dr.
''JUS of Chrouolo^if^ &c., second ed.,
', "^'ol* »*j PP* *W, 51, will give gome
ii*i*? U» it ;^
' Atn^^t^ the Ctlh'r rrttbns the rtew ttjooti npnreflt to
ato the woods on that night, and cut with n golden
ftickle A branch of the mi^dto of the oak, called Ohiah
in the Celtic language, and carried it in proceBsion to the
Siacred grovov The people aUo cut bra nc bos for them>
aelves, and carried tbem lu>me after they bad been blesjied
or consecrated by the Cliief Pruid» \Vheuco the usage
of adorning the pewi of our Churches and Chapeli with
evtrtfreenif in lieu of miaseUo^ at Christmas.
''In /'ranted, at the Cbriettnafl gambois^so late as the
reign of Louis XIV*, when they were aapprossed on a4)-
count of their irregularities, traces of the Djuidicat
usages were found. A man personating a prince {Roi
folUU^fk mummer'), set out from the village into the
woods, bawling oat Au f^ut menes ; Lt rot U vtnlt. The
monks followed in the rear with their begging boxeSj
which they rattled, crying iiTt lire^ and the people put
money in them under the fiction that it was for a lady
in labour. Pereons in disguise (Ouiseards) forced into
dwell ing'houaefl, playing antic tricks, and bullying the
inhabitants for money and choice victuals, crying Tire
lirif tire liri, ma^'nt dv. hianc, et point du his (tic./
** Bence, sayfl the late Professor Hobiuwn of JSrftii-
burffk (from whofie Katurctl Pki'losopfiy, p. 200, this note
is taken, p. 210}, eTldently was derived the Ouiiearts of
Edinburgh, ajid their cry * Hog menaif, troll lollop, Oie*»
jfour vhite brfad, none cfyourj^t^y*
** Tbe old French Au gui menez and tlie ScottTsh Hog
menay ara plainly corruptions of the Greek ayta fiij^rj^
* holy moon/ who was anciently suppijsed ' to be in
labour' at the time of the conjunction or uew moon.
Perhaps lire HH may be a corruption of tirts ie roi,
'draw forth/ and put money 'for the king,' namely, ro*
foiltt, * the mummer.' "
[Or» perhaps, from iirea Utra^ draw forth money ;
lit^rc is in Italian Urn.} W. E* Buckley.
The correct spelling of this word i?, doubtleas,
as it is pronounced— Hogm^nuy. It is suppased
to be a corruption of " Homme est n6, trois rois
alio is*' (die), " A man is born^ three kings are come/*
** Hogmcnag, trololay, pjie us your white bread, and
none of your grey.^* ^Yhen the first " guisard *^ or
masker enters, he says : —
*' Ritie up, gude wife, and shake your fciiiherB,
Dimia tliiuk that we are beggars.
We are bairns come to play.
And for to seek our Hogmenay/'
In the ^VhiBtlebiokie Collection of Smttish Song^
there is a ballad by Alexander Smart which com-
mences thus : —
♦♦ Come» bairns, a* to yomr ho^enay,
The morn, yo ken, is New ^ ear's day,
Tbe cftuld wind blairs, the auuw dawn fa*s,
But merrily, merrily dance away/*
In LoDgmuir's edition of Jamieson's IJidimtary of
the Scottuh Langnagt', the spelling Ls given '* Hog-
manay ^ and "Hognienay'' ; and the remark is
added, " the origin of the term is quite uncertAin."
J. N. Bltth.
I have heard and read much concerning the
etymology of this word. The forms of spelling
this term Me very numerous, and vary according
to the suggested etymology; but 1 wsis not pre-
viously aw 11 re that it was ever spelt with a « as
the second letter, which would .«eeui to inj|»ly yet
another derivation. In Brockctt*B Sorih Country
Glouary {IS25\ the two forma ^'Hagmenn'' and
518
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5<»8.ILI>aa26^74.
'' Hogmetm ^ are ^ivan, and the latter of thes«
finds a place In Hjilf I well's Archaic IHdiotmr^.
H- C. B. will find five differeni derivations given
in Chambera's Book &f DaySf all of which are at
once put of count if the spell ing " Huginnny " is
the correct one. The cognate ejtpressions in
different dialecta of France and Spain seem to
point to the imposaibilitj of admitting ^'htig-
m&nj" SA the true orthography,
X CHAiiLBa Cox,
HnMlwdod^ Belper.
"The Battle of the Nile^ (5^ S, il 369,)—
The following; version of this song was repeated to
me by a gentleman, now dead, 'wtio learnt it from
a blind fiddler, who waa accustomed to sing it
and other naval songs for the delight of the people
during the " great war," On the evening of the
2lit of October, 1805, the day on which Nelson
fell at Trafalgar, he well remembered hearing the
old man sin^ it at a Lincolnshtre farmhouse, near
Gainsborough, before a la^ gathering of young
people. The text I send ii, 1 am pretty sarsj a cor-
rupt one. I have seen the song within the kat fifteen
years exhibited for sale, in the form of a broadside,
at Hull, and tber^ is a copy in a chap-book In the
British Museum (1077 g/ 47/19), but both these
are in a worse state than the following. As to its
authorship, I know nothing :^
" Ariae* an!i«, Brit&nrtm'e mnn unsei
And join in the i^lmuts of the pntrioti*? throng;
Ariie, arise, Britannin'fi eoni arise,
And let tliB HeiLTenfl echi> wiih your sonff.
For the genitiA of Albion, Tictory procktmuig,
Fiiflf ill rough th^ worlds oar lawa and ri^htfl mointvlning*
A till the battle of the NUo
I* the fprctiiost OQ the file,
And Nelson, galUnt KelBon*£ namfi
Applauded ah&ll be.
Then liuzza, by^Eft, hiizm, iiusEa^ hoya I
Maris j^uardfl what ff*cdom did by charter sain.
Huzza, hnzfA, buzzn, buxta, bojf,
Britanniii itill, Britanniii rules the main.
The proud sons of France with iniultinp, hntighty pcom,
Had flo long oppreased thq neigh boy ring independeney.
That they dainty did hope their canqneata would be borue
In harmony triumphant o'er the aea ;
But Nelson has tau^jbt Ibenn iti peala of British thunder.
To the Hag of Koyal George 'til their dut| to kiio^lc
under.
For the h&ttle of the XiTo
Is decisivo of their spoil.
\^Q let laurels) grace the bosom
Of each lojal Britlah fair
Then buzit, &c.
In the council nbore itond ttie Deity of Wart
Determined to |{iv« rnlour due renown ;
And now on the brow of ench Imrdy British tar
Mhftll fleuriiili 0, re^pleitdent laurel cmwti ;
While the laud trump of Fame, o*er curth and oeean
Kiufidin^i
Shalt with Howe, Jervw, Duncan, Knd Nclion'i name be
rescmnding.
And the battle of the Nile
Shall be foremott on the file ;
And still tb« angelid choir shall fbig
The glories of that day.
Then hitUB, fee.
Then ariie, arisen ye loaa of mirthful tport^
And recciTa jour protectori with open armi, t
And view ib« spoil he with hu blciod lm» bought
For the glory of tliis happy iile.
A Briti&b Geaman's name hence forward we shbll kaow
As an honour to his friend, and a terror to hi» foe.
AtthohaUleof the^fite
Our children dhali Fmilo,
And to ages yet uubom
Tmnsmil ^hjit Kekon *» dan««
Th«n hum, kc."
K, K D. E,
The Little Summer (fi* S. ii SSlj 477.]—
There ia no doubt whateyer about the meiuung of
the Welsh namsw Saf bach Gmyl-Mihajngd for
Otpyl-mgdf as Mr, U^tkone writes it)ineana "^e
little Michaelmas iummer/' Owyl*en§d is a cor-
rupt coUoquiul form of Qwyt^M^hangtl^ which, la
accordance with well-ascertained laws of tnutalioti,
became BacceMirely Qtrnjl-Fikangtl (/ sounded as
v)^ G^i^yVikangtl^ GwyPih^Jigdj (hpiflhengil, and
60inettmea Qteykngd. if tAati^£2=Miehael ua-
dergoee precisely the same changes in the Joed
name Lhn-Fihangd^SL Michaera Cburchj which
occura in fieremt places in the Principality, Oinfl
(liko Eng. vigil} is only the regular Welsh form d
L. i^igil-1%. The Lat initial v b^x>nie3 in Welsh
gw, just as in some of the Eomaiic« languae^ it
becomes gu^ Thus, W. gwen^r h from VrnvM,
ventr-in ; W, gictnwyti from L* f^n^t-am ; aod
W. gwcrs from L* versi\&. Compare It, tfuadoj Ft.
gyU from L. vadum. ; It. gujiiare from L. voHari,
So L. rtjj^-a=^Prov, guif^re, Welsh gmb^. The
elision of the meditil guttural g between two
vowels is too eomnion to need illuatration. The
Romance representatives of the Lat. Ttgalis^ lifurt,
fiHgiiBhis^ fragilisj frigiduA^ ifcc*, will serve as ex-
ftiiiples. Both the above changes nppe.ar in It.
gudirc from L. ragin^ and in It. guaint^ Fr.
gatm^ Welsh ^trai^r from L. vagin-fk.
Owylf as Mr. Us none says, means holidflf,
festival ; but its primary meaning is a watch, a
vigil. This appears from the verbs^iryJio, giriflitd
=to wotchj L rigiitm; and gicyiad (in Sonth
Walc8)=to watch a corpse or a sick perwa, ind
l^cne rally to sit up at night ; and from the nouns
g7t*^lfa^a> watch ing-pliuse or a watch of the night,
and (7icy?)!&^t:=^ watch- night. So gtvylmabiftnt^^
wake^ and the depression emlw gicyl hentan (lit.
to keep a vigil of the hob) meanii, to sit up all
night. The article in Good Words I have not
seeni and I cannot see what connexion, there can
he between g\vyl and whui^ voho^ &c. If nji7ta
is etymological ly related to wh^d^ then fo h g^e^l,
but not otherwise, T, F,
" The Whale's Jubilee" (5"» S. 11 418) was
written by my dear mother (Mm Zonilin} in 1806.
B*&lT.Dl«:2«,71J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
While I fully suWriW to the justice of P. P/s re-
rV '' *" ^hm hrochm't amon^ the others nnuied^
fct X ond the cupictty of children^ yet the
^ . jieft fire i?o renmrkable, that 1 trust
laftv hud u plncc in "K. & Q/' They almost
---^ ^ ft 1 mh. whaia
then only beginning to he usedj the arms of the
bishop became the eventual bearings of the See,
In the little book to which I have refen^, but
with Mhich Mil, Mackknzjk Walcott does oot
seem to be acquainted, 1 have in many cu^s
[Arme of English deea.].
519,
... to iny Brest vexation. The arriu of
^iGter.ln -rhioh both Jfr* Walcott and myself are
^ pea ted, were a hap^y exceDtlon.and our old
friend '•Preeter John" will not be found in it^
Montrose. john Woodward,
^
^
Kovf ctitl^ht^ns mankind VfttTA^ffiibfltAnGO mert ; ' ' '
And DO lonijcr of fLntmnl tife to pri'faae,
The mineml, unre«Jkig, converts to thut tiae.
It is. therefore, our ]tlenjure, tbit during our reign
ET«ry lifty-two moon 8 ye &*fletiible again/
Tbi* buppy event vre thus comnieinonite,
8o im;><»rtant to us and tbe good of the State.
May tliei« fp]«ndid games, which Balfenic we n&iofl,
In future vurpiuu tbe Olympic in fdme ;
And m&y Britain enjoy thiit sweet peace she h&i gireo,
And itand firni for ever, the darling of Heaven/'
My early recollections of the substitution of gas
for whale oil are associated with the name of Win-
sor, a man who wa;* regarded as a schemer, and
who induced gcverrd of the working-classes to take
share;* in hla patent light and bent compiiny* I
ahould be plud to know at what date gas-lights
Wfire firbt introduced into our streets or houses ;
any parti culara as to Winsor and biB patent,
Z. Z,
f [With regard to the ttitroduciion of gu, see an^i^ p. 4^,]
Arms or E^rsListt Seks (5*** S, ii. 4C2.)— In
I common with the other readers of *'N. & Q,," I
[ have been bo often indebted to the researches of
I Mr. MACKBJfZFE Walcott, that it is a pleasure
I to me to be able to afford him even a scrip of
1 information in return. If he will refer to the slip
of ** Krmtura " inserted at the end of the little
vohimt% The Arms of the Epucopatu of Great
BriUiin and Irfland, emblazoned by Mr, Warren,
and with an Introduction, &c., by myself, he will
find thjit the torteaux in the arms of the See of
I Worcester do not refer to any ** HogtB^'* m he
ItiAsert') ; but that the arms o( tliw S;.-.^, like those
I of the See of Hereford, are '- m the per-
I p^_»nri! arrji-i of one of its i ^ Godfrey
p of Worcester (iiOH-1302), wji» a
I Hampshire family who l>ore— Arg.
Ilea tcifteaujL m pile ; and, as diocesan luiua were
conversion. I hope tt is not too sadden to lust.
It is certainly as decided as conversion could be.
Only kst June (see 5^^ S. i. 450), writing on the
above subject, he said,—" In the crises cit^ it is
sufficient to say that the arms of Christ Church,
Ciinterbury, and St. Peter's, York, are not * palis.^ "
He now "writes (p. 462),—" Canterbury. An
archiepiscoptd pall .... York. A palJ.'*
With regard to the arms of Chichester, I still
prefer to hold by such authorities aa Bishop
i!tparrow and Peter Heylin, My opinions as to
Prester John have undergone no change.
Edmukd Tew, M.A.
Gt'Ni'owoER Plots (5«*» S. ii. 361.)— J. B. asks,
" Is there any instance of such a plot being suc-
cessful 1 '* Take the following account to be found
in ** The History of (he Barbarous Cruelties and
Mfifsacrc^ CommiUcd by the Dutcfi in t/uj East
Tnilia, By R. Hall, B.D,, formerly of Queen's
CoUedge, Oxon. London and Westminster,
MDCcxiL,*' p. 142: —
** Soon after tbis a great piece of Hoguery was ^^'IT'd
on at DanLam, which unhappilf provM fuoccfsful. The
Dutch bad there, under one of the Ba^ttiona, a f^rcat
Magazine of Powder, and they bad unfortunately at
that Time above a Hundred Tun of it in tlieir Mngadn^.
A Javian undertook to get in by brtakinif of the waU,
which he wa* forced to do by digging a way under ground
quite to the «Jc of iL £vcry Day be r' - • —> the
£;ntrai>ce into his Hole with Earth, ao r i ud
so aoftly that no one perceiv'd it. and tl i «if
the two Centineie that etood on the Da^tiuji hciird tbo
leajst Noiec at any time. Wlien he wa* Rot in, be Uxik
a Bamboo Cnne that wan hftllow, and fiird it with Gun-
powder, lighted it at one End, and the Fire coming to
iht Powder h\ the fntie ffftve n prfnt Blow, with »oido
FliL ' imf t"C pf««««l.
Til vent to tearvU
evLi, .... . .- ,.. , . .. ^,, ...... Lie matter w»a»
and there the Bamboo Cane was fonad^ and the Powder
618
NOTES AND QUERIES.
l5»aiL0«^fil'AL
"Hognieim" are p:iven, and the latter of tbcse
finds a pkce in H;dli well's Archaic IHctionarij.
H. C B. will find five different derivutions j:iven
in Chambers's Book of Days, viil of wjtlcli
once out of count if " ""
And still the an|?€lio choir ihiiJl ting
Tho j^lorka of tliat dny
xiw text L seaa is, l am pretty sure, a cor-
rupt one. I have seen the song within the hist fifteen
years exhibited for sale, in the fomi of a broadHide,
at Hullj and there is a copy in a chap-book in the
British Museum (1077 g. 47/19), but both the^e
are in a worse etatc than the following. Ajb to its
authorship, I know nothin^r ;^
" Anse, tLT\ae, Briknnnia'a mna lirise,
And join in the shouts of the patriotic throng;
Ari»e« arise, Britannia's Bona arise,
And let the Heavens echo with your »ong.
For tho genius of Albion^ victory procUttning,
Fliee through the world, our laws and rights m^ntikLnhiig.
And the hattle of the Nile
Ift the foremost on the file»
And Nebon, gftiknt Nelson's name.
Applauded shall he.
Then huzza^ hu»a, huxxa, huEEQ, boyt I
Mars gruarda what freedom did by charter gam.
Huzza, huxza, buEza, huzza, boy a,
Briiannia sUll, Britanuta rules the main*
The proud fonts of France with ineultuiCt bsuffbty F^om,
Had so long oppressed tho neighbouring tridependencj.
That they Tuinly did hope their conquests would be borne
In harmony triumphant o'er the sea :
But Nelson has taught them, in peals of British thunder^
To the flag of Royal George His their duty to knock
under.
For the battle of the Nile
ts decisive of their itpoiL
So let laurels grace the bosom
Of each loyal British fair.
Then huzsa, kc*
In the council above stood the Deity of War,
Determined to Rite Talour due renown ;
And now on the brow of each hardy British tar
Shttll flourish ft resplendent biuret crown ;
While the loud trump of Fame, o'er earth and ocean
sounding,
Shall wUh uowe^ Jerrit, Daocanj and Nelson's name bo
resounding.
And the battle of the Nile
£lhali be foremost on tho file ;
V), "■■-'■'•'■ ""' '■". .;
sotiii ■ ■/'-/• Ml/.
der-;'_-t..... , :''l^"' '^i-riu-- ■
name LI"
occurs in _ ^
(like Eng. vifjxi) is only t
L. riyil-iiu The Lat. iir
ffw^ just as in some of the Iviituiocv luogu
becomes gu. Thu»» W. Qmaitr h froin
verur-iB ; W. gmentt^yn from L.
W, gfttVT^ from L. versus. Coinpu
gu^ from L. vadurn ; It. guMtare t
So h. vipcra^Vroy. guirre^ Wei
elision of the medial guttural
vowels is too common to need ill
Romance representatives of the L j
angmlns, fratjilU, frigidui, &c., '
uruplea. Both the above changtc .41--
(juairt from L. vagirt, and in It, gtuiin^
fjatne^ Welsh g\m%n from L. vugin-a,
Ginjl, as Mr. Unxonk: says, meana hoUd
festival; but its primary meaninu^ Is :i wnti*
vigil, This appears from the verl
=to watch, L. rigitare; and ;r
W*des)=to watch a corpse or a
generally to sit up at night j and
giQylfa^^ watch ing-plaoe or a vfui
ond £^tri/^no«=watch'night. S<»
wake, and the expression r. '
to keep a vigil of the hob
night. The article in OoOit M
seen, and I ctmnot see wh:it con >
be between giryl and whftl^ voho, ^ ^
is etymologiciJly related to trhtd^ then » w f€i^
but not otherwise^ T. P% 1
"Toe WHAtK*9 JcBiLSB** (5«« SL ij. Al^\
written by my dear mother (Mra. Zomlta) in 18
»fl. n. Dbc.26,'71J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
519
IWliile I fully eui iRcribe to the justice of P. P/s re-
m-k a^ ia this brochure amon^ the others named,
yond the capacity of childfen, yet the
lea «re so rrin.irkablej that I trust
nriy njui a plncc in " K, (& Q-" They almost
le the chamcter of a prophecy. The whale
Llt8 :—
•* Tbe cause of these rcrela, this feastinjr, thii mirtli,
U n I < 1. f- I .frwcen ua auil the bold eons of earth,
F: I t)ie ^4a[)tty inteUi^ence came ;
Ft th^ effat. "f tnfth, banour, nnd fame.
H " ulo the great deep,
4/ keep.
^< liows be dyed,
Kor Ijis constirt, hi* cliiMren, be torm from hiB aidej;
Ko mure shnll ho struggle with unequal foed,
But itll Nature'i U^t suramon«j, iti plenty repose*
Hnr|KKiT)», our greAt dread, shall to plougbflhares be
changed.
And mun Irom the traffic of Mubber estranged ;
Por» t*j guide him tio more through the dark wintry
night,
Will he draw from our life blood the pure rajiof light.
A tnort.K in art* and in science expert,
jV" ns inaiikiod with £l Aubstarice inert;
At . of nniiuni life «o prt'fuse,
Ti uufeelitig, converts to that use.
Jt 0, our pieaBure, thnt during our reign
£v vo moons ye a«Bemblo again/
Thb lifi;']^) event we thus commemorate,
t$o inipuriant to us and the g'ood of the State.
May these Bplendid games, which Balfcmc vre name.
In future gurpoin the Olympic in fame;
And may Britain ciyoy thnt sweet peace ahe has giren.
And tt&nd firm for efcr, the darling of HeaTen.**
My eivrly recollections of the siibsititutioii of gas
^h.'ile oil are uasociivted with the name of Win-
or* a iimti who was regarded as a scheme r, and
tl of the working-classes to take
it light and heat company^ I
uKi . < -uui u> know at what date gas-lights
rere first introduced into our streets or houses ;
> Any particiilurs as to Winsor and his patent,
^ Z, Z.
( regurd to the introduction of gas, see ante, p. 460]
Arms op EjJOLisri Sees (5**» S. ii. 462.)— In
?^miiion with the other readers of **N. & Q,/' I
xt been so often indebted to the researches of
R. Mackejjzik Walcotf, that it is a pleasure
me to be able to afford him eren a scrap of
Informiition in return . If he will refer to the slip
f ** Erratum '* inserted at the end of the little
nme, The Anns of the EinscopaUit of Great
■ritain and [rdami^ ^mhUzomd by Mr. Warren,
trith an Introduction, &c,, by myself, he will
thut the torteaux in the arms of the See of
t>er do not refer to any *' Hoists,^ aa he
bat that the arma of this See, like those
of Hereford, are derived from the per-
is of one of its occupants. Godfrey
i&hop of Worcester (1208-1302), w:\9 a
rmber of a Uampshire family who bore — Arg.
tc*rteaiix in pile ; and, as diocesan anus were
then only beginning to be used, the arms of the
bishop be Clime the eventual bearings of the See.
In the little book to which I have referred, but
with which Mft. Mackenzie Walcott does not
seem to be acquainted, I have in many cases
traced the connexion between the dedication of
the Cuthedral and the arms of the See ; and the
greater part of the infonnation conUiined in his
contribution wili be found printed there. It is
perhaps right that I should disclaim responsibility
for the blazoning. About this I took gi-eat pains^
but my MS. was subjected to **profea.sioQiil"
revision, and the result was that the cdd errors of
bhii!oning tmd of punctuation, which I had care-
fully avoided, again appeared in iieveral instances,
I heartily congratulate Mr. Walcott on his
conversion. I hope it is not too sudden to lastw
It is certainly as decided aa conversion c^uld be.
Only last June (see 5^ S. L 450), writing on the
above subject, he said, — ^" In the cases cited it is
sufficient to say that the arms of Clirist Church,
CanterbuT}% and St. Peter's, York, are not spalls.'"
He now writes (p. 4t)2), — ** Canterbury. An
archiepiscopal pall. .... York. A pill."
With regard to the arms of Chichester, I still
prefer to hold by auch authorities as Bishop
Sparrow and Peter Heylin. My opinions as to
Prester John have undergone no change*
Edmckd Tew, M.A.
Gl-npowber Plots (!y^ S. ii. 361.)— J. B. askfi,
"Is there any instance of such a plot being suc-
cessful ? " Take the following account to be found
in ** The JliMory of the Barbarous Cruelties and
MiumcrnJi Committed by th^ Dutch in tJie East
Indies. By R. Hall, B.D., fcirmerly of Queen's
Colledge, Oxon. Loudon and Westminster,
MDCcxu.," p. 142: —
*• Soon after this n grent piece of Roguery if as carry'd
on jit Dan lam, which unhappily prov'd Hiiccea»ftih The
Dutch had there, under one of the Bui^tions, a great
Muj^nzine of Powder, and they hA<l unfortunately at
thfvt Time above a Hundred Tun of it in their Mttgaxtne*
A Javtan undertook to j;et in by breaking of the wall,
which he was forced to do bv digging: a way under ground
quite to the bide of it, fivery I»ay he closed up the
Entrfti.ce into his Hole ^^itli Earth, bo artificially and
BO softly that no one perceived it, and thai neither of
the two Oentinels that stood on the EJastiou heard the
least Noi&e at any time. When he was i;ot in, he took
a Bamboo Cane that was hnlJow, and fiird it with Oua*
powder, lighted it at one End, and the Fire coming to
the Powder in the Cane Rave a great Blow, with *omc
Flame, without dntng anv further Harm for the prefent.
Thii alnrnrd all the People^ who presently went to fcarch
every Comer of the Bastion to see what the matter was,
and there the Daiuboo Cane was founds and the Powder
520
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5*^8. II. Dia SB, 74.
that was in it was consiini'd. But no sooner had they
opened the Vault Door, but the Wind finding a free
Passage, took some Imparks of Fire along vrith it, which
lighted amon^ the Powder, and in an instant eet that
on Fire, and blew up tlie whole Bastion with sixteen
pieces of Cannon, and above Two Hundred People."
So far the plot was as successful as the peri^e-
trators could have desired, but the consequences
to them were far from satisfactory : —
"An Account of this Accident was quickly sent to
the General at Batavia, who presently sent Men thither,
with orders to the Govtrnour, and to the Young King,
to make a diligent Enquiry after the Projectors of this
Villany; And in a short time three Javians were dis-
covered to be the Men ; who were brought bound to
Batavia, and confessed that they were the only Contrivers
of that Action; upon which they were all Three con-
demned to die. - . -. . ' ^\ r
Thus was this successful powder-plot avenged.
W. J. BER2IHARD SmITIL
Temple.
"Party" (5«» S. ii. 346.)— Mr. Fergusson
need have felt no surprise at the use of " party "
in the sense of person, by Mary, Queen of Scots.
It was commonly so used in her time. He will
find it in the apocryphal Book of Tobit, — " and
the party shall be no more vexed," — and I can
furnish him with another unpublished instance,
date 1537. John Husee writes to his mistress,
Honor, Viscountess Lisle, from London, June 17,
concerning the projected marriage of her son,
John Basset, with her step-daughter, Lady Frances
Plantagenct : —
"Touching the matter ye willed me to move for, there
is no remedy, she (Eleanor, Countess of Rutland) thinks,
but the party must lose her estate, and take the degree
of her wedlock ; howbcit within v days the King of
Heraulds hath promised me to shew me the verrey
trywt." — Lisle Papers, vol. xi., art. 51.
The King of Heralds was of the opposite opinion :
"That the woman shall never lose no parte of her
degree, but shall always be taken as iier father's
daughter ; and if need bo I can have both tbeir seals
and hands."— /6., June 23, vol. xi., art. 100.
Hermentrude.
The use of" party" in the sense of an individual
is by no means uncommon in old writers, as the
following instances, which might easily "be nmlti-
plied, will show :—
**Fnl. Who's that? look Galla.
Oal. 'Tis the party, madam.
Ful. What party 1 has he no name ?
Gal. 'Tis Quintus Curius."
Ben Jonson, Catiline, act ii. sc. 1.
" Had it been foretold that one Simon should have
carried Christ's cross, and had one heard Simon Peter
30 latelj, BO solemDly, promising, though I should die
with thee, yet 1 will not deny thee, he would haieehaTi
certainly concluded him the party for thai ■ernee."
Fuller's Pitffak JSiffhl, iiL 844.
In the Index Yerborum to Mr. Bailey*8 valuable
life of Fuller, recently pnblished, there are three
references to the word in this signification^ Ibe
first occurring in the Triple Reconciles, the second
in one of Fuller's Sermons, and the third in a
letter from Dr. Ward to Archbishop Ussher. See
also Fullers Holy State, p. 164, and Bishop An-
drewes*s Sermons (Ang.-Cath. Lib-X vol. iii., p. 50.
T. Lewis 0. Davies.
Pear Tree Vicarage, Southampton.
See " N. & Q.» 3«» S. iii. 427, 460 ; xiL 365, 424 ;
4"» S. i. 39, 87, 159, 208, 326, 450 ; and ii. 206.
The following passages have not yet been noticed.
In " The Complaynt of Philomtnc An Flegye
compyled by George Gascoigne, Esq'." Written
about 15C3 (see Arber's reprint TJie Steele Glat,
&c., 114);—
" Eir next most note (to note)
I neede no helpe at al.
For I myself the partie am
On whom she then doth calL*'
In Morels Utopia the word occurs seven timef
in this sense (Arbor's reprint, 81, 123, 124, 125):-
" But if tke same partis be taken eftsones in that fad
there is no other iraye but death " (p. 125).
It also occurs in The Revelation of the Monk o
Evesham^ printed about 1482 : —
" Loo Sonne he seyde now a party aftyr they [thv]
peticion and grete desir thow haste seyne and beboUt
the state of the worlde," &c. (p. 109).
T. M AGO RATH.
The use of " party " for " person or individnal*
is not a very modern vulgarity. We find instance!
of it in Shakspeare : —
". . . . but I would not be the party that should dean
jou to touch him." — Antony and Cleopatra, r. 2, 249.
" . . . . Canst thou bring me to the party] "
Tempest, iii. 2, 67.
" The party is gone, fellow Hector, she is f:one."
Love's Labour *t LoU, v. 2, 67S.
" Why, who cries out en pride
That cuu therein tax any private party ? *'
As 1 01* Like It, ii. 7, 71.
The first three of the above quotations, it will
be observed, are put into the mouths of vulgar
characters. Jacques uses the word prop^y,
having in his mind the opposition of the accuser
to the accused. In Mary, Queen of Scots' letter
there seems to me to be the same under-sense of
opposition between thctwojparties to the marriage.
John Addis.
This senseless and utterly inaccurate vulgarism,
used now, one is sorry to note, by here and there
an educated gentleman, may have arisen from the
French parti, " an eligible party," being equivalent
to a parti sortablc, or a *^ good match." As a ma-
trimonial expression, if only the French word |Kirii
«» & II. Deo. 26, 71.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
521
were used instead of the English quasi-sLing word
" party," it passes muster, and the " na mrty in
maieai^e " of the Inveraiy letter of Mary, Queen of
Soota u traceable, no doubt, to her Sooto-French
K Jakes.
or moralist, whether we view his character as a
courtier in times of prosperity, or as a wanderer
in dark and troublous times. Below, I append
notes of a few editions which I have only met with
recently, otherwise Mr. Bailey would have had
them placed at his disposal : —
"Antt-psedol»a|itism, or the Second Part
■ putc concerning Infant-
'inBt Infant-Bap-
'^ ' Mr.
amis
The Long Parliament (6^ S. iL 428.)— The
book Olphar Haxst inquires after \a**Le Long
FarUmmt U se§ Crimes, rapprochements faciles &
faiin, Paris, de rimprinierie d'un Royoliste,
1790.'' The author was Angdlique Marie Darlua
du Taillis, Comtesse de Montrond, the mother
of Casimir de Montrond (the intimate friend of
Talleyrand, and the person referred to in Raike8*B
Journal) and of his elder brother, £douard de
Montrond. Le Long Parlement is described in
the new edition of Barbier {Dictionnaire des Ouv-
rages AnonymeSy vol. ii. p. 1342), the Biographic
Universelle (art. "Montrond"), and Notices tt
Observations h VOccasion dc qndmus Femnus d4i
la Socicti du XVI IP Silcle, by M. Hippolyte de
la Porte. M. de la Porte was the author of the
notice of Madame de Ililontrond in the Biographic
UnivcrscUc. R. C. Christie.
Manohester.
Thomas Fuller (5»^ S. ii. 31R.)— After the very
handsome manner in which Mr. Bailey has recoj^-
nizcd all who have rendered him ser>'ice in hi?
work, I hope every collector will endeavour to
find existinj; copies of the editions of Fuller's
works which Mr. Bailey lins referred to, but with
wbich he has been at present unable to meet.
Then wo shall have a complete bibliography of
the works of a man who was an ornament of his
age, whether we consider him as historian, preacher,
Northampton.
BoBEBT Herrxck'b Yerbbs (6*^ S. iL 32a>~
Protestant in the second line of ''To Anthea" is
evidently used in strict accordance with its Latin
root meaning, to speak as a witness, to moke
known, to declare, &c. So that the poet here
means, that if Anthea bid him to live, he will do
so, and protest or make known her many adorable
qualities, and how worthy she is to be loved.
B. B.
Boston.
Does it mean any more than that if "bid to live,"
he would continue to protest, that is, to give repeated
assurances of his love and devotion, even if his lovo
should not be returned ] W. E. Buckley.
Probably, he simply means that he will be her
devotee, will " protest " in her defence if necessary,
and " protest " Jiis love for her to herself and eVeiy-
body else too. 0. I), shouhl have given either a
reference or the full title of the song, which is To
Anth'.a, v'ho may command him anything, I
looked at To Anthea lying in bed, and ever so
many more " To Antheas," before I could find the
right one. May I be allowed also to ask why
things never " begin" now-a-days 1 Commence is
a most hideous word, always bad, but worst of all
when men commence to do a thing. It is mack
520
NOTKS AND QUERIES.
[5-^3,11, Die »,7C I
tbat wjis in it vms con«um*d. Dut no aooiitr !md they
<ipeti*d the Vault Donr, hut tVie Wind findiitg^ h free
Pfts^go^ took som« J^pttrks of Fire along with it, whicli
lighitrti lauonjc the Towdcr, itnd In an aiati^fjt set thiit
OD Fire, and blew uji the whole B:istton vrith Esi^^tcfn
pieoes of Cannon, undf above Two Huiulrcd People."
So far the plot was ns sacecssful as the |>cq>e-
tmtoni could have desired, but the conse<|ucuccs
&20.
With thee, yet I vriU not deny lhee> he yron"
ocrtainlj concluded Mm thcptrtv
FuUerd /
Iq the Index Ver^
life of Fuller, recen"
references to the w* ; i in r;
lirit t>ccurring in the IVjpIe i!
in _^ one pf^FiiUer's ist^vmou^ nut luc-
b U L .t i^ LU.
[Gunpowder PlDts.]-**
.•.He that had «et fire to the Cane waa
brought upon a scaffold erected for that p\^ ^,
and there pinch 'd ^ith red hot tonga from t
ing till to'jvarda the Evening, at which tlm© »i«
cut into quarters, eo that the Day wan apent In
turing of that Fellow only^ T>ie next day the eecc
was served in like manner; and the Third waa broke
upon the Wheel. *• - - •
^te pnrtj shall be no more vexed/' — and I can
ftiniLah him with another unpublished iust^inco,
date 1537* John Husee writes to his mifitress,
Honor, Yiscounte^ Lisle, from London, June 17,
concerning tho projected marriage of her eon,
John Basset, with her step-daughter, La-dj Frances
Plantagenet :■ —
"Totiching tho matter ye willed me to more for. there
h no remedy, she (Eleanor, Countess of Hutlund) thlaks,
but tho piirty most loe« her estate, and take tho degree
of her weillock ; howheit within t days the King of
Heraulds hath promised me to ehew me ilte verrey
trywt/' — Lui€ Papers, voL li., art. 51,
The King of Heralds was of tlie opposite opinion ;
**That the woman shall never lose no parte of Ijcr
degree, but shall ahsava be taken as her fathe/e
daughter ; and if need be I can have both their aeala
and haiida/*—/6,, June 23, vol. li., art. lOO.
Hermentrude,
The 036 of "party *^ in the «eii«e of an individual
18 by no means uncommon in old writers, as the
following instances, which might eaaily te muhi-
plied, will show : —
" FtiL Who*s thati look Oalla.
Gal. 'TU the party, inadam.
/\J, Whut party 1 has he no name ?
GaL 'Ti* Quititu* Curium/'
Ben Jonvon, Catiline, act ii 9c, 1.
" Hod it been foretold that one Simon ihould have
carried Chriet'« cros«^ and had one heard Simon Peter
so hkt^lj, io aolotunly, promising, iUoujU I should die
*' Loo ionnf} he acyde nw« ,z ^^m y uj^yr xm-y (
pi^ticion and grete de«ir thow hnste teytui and bew2
the Btate of tlie worlde,'* &c t^. lOi*).
T. Mao^iutii.
The nsc of " party ** for " pinion or indidtlini*
ig not ft very modern rulgarity- Wc find ia
of it in ShaltPpcare :—
**..,. but I would not be the ]
you to touch hvin." — Antony atui ^
**,.,, C?anet thou bring ao to the }»mi'mj 1 "
Ttmpuft, iii. a, Ii7.
" The party in grone, fellow ITectof, abc if %
Loft't Lahoar 'j Lati, ▼♦ 2» f
** Why. whocriis <?"" •■ ■•* ?-
That CikU there ]■
J
The first three of the abo\
be obsjcrved, are put into th*
charactei^. Jacques uses thv
having in his mind the opj>i>^itioTi
to the accusetL In M>r
there seems to me to l»e
opposition between the iwo^attu^
This senseless and utt*
U5ed now, one is FCTrrr t
an educated g^ t
French pnrfi, *'
to a pari)
trimonial l
NOTES AND QUERIES.
521
I
were ased instead of the Etjglisli quftai-slang word
'* IJartj," it 1%'isses muster, mid the ** na jmrty ia
marcfl^'o " of the Inveranr letter of Mary^ Queon of
Scots IB tr.iceitble, no doubt, to her Scoto-FrcDch
chftRicter and connexioD. S. B. Jajues.
NorthmorftoQ.
kn earlier uso of the word ** party," to fii;a:nify
an individuttl^ than that recorded by Mr, Fer-
arssuN (15G3) ia to be found in the Prayer Book.
It is ia one of the rubrics before the ofiice for
Holy Cunmiunion : " K one of the pju-tic^i so at
Tarianco,'^ iS:c. ; and, again, *' the other party wiU
not be pei^uaded to a godly unity,- <S:c. The
same expression occurs in the books of 1549 and
lfi5i\ W. D. Sweeting.
Potcrboroijgh.
Many instances might be giren of the nse by
our old writers of this word in the sense of "person."
Take as one exainple the following passage from
BeaXLmont and Fletcher :—
"Cfera. .... YcB'fiiith;
My brother will be here straightway, mud —
Franl. Whtttl
Cfora. The other »aHy. Ha, ha, ha?
rrank. Whht party f"
Th4 Captain^ Act iii sc 8,
Clnm then explains that the " party '^ in question
ti Jacomo. Might not one imagine that one was
listening to a ** slangy '* young lady of the present
day? ^liDDLE Templap..
The Long Parliament (6"» S. ii 4280— The
book Olphar Hamst inquires after ia ** Lc Lontf
FarUmmt tt *e« Crime ' ' ' ' r>
I fct\r€. Paris, de I'lr
1790.-* The author Waa xVii;.Hni|yf- .u;uih LMrilis
du Taillie, Comtesae de Montrond, tlie mother
( of CuMtiuir de Montrond (the intimate friend of
TallevTiind* and the pernon referred to in Raikcs'a
JoMrrtoI) and of his eblor brother, Edouard de
Montfond, Lc Lcmg Parhmoit is described in
the new edition of Bjirbier (Didionnaire d^is Ouv-
\ TQ^es Anonxfme^^ vol. iL p» 1342), the B i ly f rapine
UnivcrulU (art. "Montrond ' ), and Notices tt
Ohserttttions ct VOccasion de tpteimies Fcmnuji dc
I ia Si)c\/U du XVI IP Sikh, by M. Hippolyte de
bi Porte. M. de h\ Porte wa-s the author of the
^notice of Madame de Montrond in the Biof^aphu
tircrsdU, K. C. Christie.
noheeter.
TitoitAS FcLLF.K (5*^ S. il 31 R.)— After the very
bnndsonie manner in which Mt. Bailey has recog-
kAized all who ha\'o rendere<l him service in liis
*Wf>rk, I li'^pf? t^vrrr f^^IIr^tnr will endeavour to
' ions of Fullers
red to, but with
. whiih he ha-. Itcu ut pit^vat Unable to met-t,
LTbrn wr j-hall have a complete bibboji^vphv of
I worki of a mun who wai« an ornament of Ins
iTiirliethcr we conaidcr him as historian, preacher,
or moralist, whether we yiew his character as a
courtier in times of prosperity, or as a wanderer
in dark and troublous times. Below, I append
notes of a few editions wliich I have only met with
recently, otherwise Mr. Bailey would have had
them placed at his disposal : —
(P. 521). " AQtupajdobaptina, or the Second Part
of the full Ecviciv of tho Dbpute concenitnz Iafiuit«
Bafitism. . . , . and the Argument ftgainit Infant- Bap-
tiara mftde g^od a^nsfe the WritingB of. ... . Mr.
Thomiui Fulkr tLud others. By John Tombes, B.D.
London : Printed by Henry HiUi KOotiv."
(P, 521), •* Anti ]neile»!>iiptiBin ; or tho Third Part,
Bemjf ti fall Review of the Dijspate conceming Inf*nt-
Btiptiflm. In which .... the Writing! of . . * . Mr.
Tbomt« Fuller .... and others, nre Gxamined. .... By
John Tomb«f, B.D. London : Printed by E. Aalop. . , .
l(iZ»7. Brit. Mua., 4323 bb/'
(P. 7 13). •• Anjilorum Speculum, or the Worthies of
England, in Church and Stat^, London : Printed for
Thomo-s Paaain^cr 168L Brit. Mus. 276 h 25.'*
(P. 753). " The Sermons of Mr. Henry Smith. . . . And
tho Life By Tho. Fuller, B.D. London : Printed for
A, Kerape, . , . ltJ57. Taylor Collection."
(P. 7r>3). ** TbiTigs New and Old, or a Storehouse of
lUnatrationJ! by John Spencer, with Preface by Thomoa
Puller Fourth Edition. London : Eichard D. Dick-
inion. .... MDOOCLXXTT."
'VAnother Edition, tn two rolumei. London: WiL
liam TejTK. I^tl7, Brit. Mu«. S40t; ee.*'
<P. 7«3l), •* Ornitho-Logie : or, the Speech of Birds.
Also, the Speec*h of Flowcra; Partly Moral, partly
3fystical. By T. Fuller, B&tchclour in Divinity, Lon-
dm: Printed for John Stafford. . * . » 1<)60, Taylor
Collection.'*
John Taylor,
Northampton.
Robert Herrtck's Verses (5*** S. ii. 328.) —
Froti'j<tant in the second line of "To Anthea" is
evidently used in strict accordance with its Latin
root meaning, to speak as a witne^, to make
known, to declare^ &c. So that the poet here
means, that if Anthea bid him to live, he will do
so, and protest or make known her many adorable
qualities, and how worthy she is to be loved,
Boston.
Does it mean any more than that if *'bid to live,"
he would continue to protcMy that is, to give repeated
asmi ranees of his love and devotion, even if bis lovo
should not be returned I W* E. Buckley,
Probably, he simply means that he will be her
devotee, will ^* profit *' in her defenc-e if necessary,
and " protest " his love for her to herself and every-
body else too. C. D. should have given either &
ri'tVreuee or the full title of the song, which is To
vlHf/irct, who may command him anythimj, I
looked at To Anthea. lying in bfd^ and ever so
numy more " To Antheas " before I cotild find the
rif.'bt one, M.iy I be allowed also to a^k why
things never ** begin*' now-ii-days t Commence is
a most hideous word, alwayt^ bad, but woi^t of all
when men comraence to do a vKm^ ^X* ^2^ ^ssismS^
522
NOTES AND QUERIES.
16* a IL Dwo. 26, 74.
to be hoped that the revisers of the Bible will not
cause the first verses of Genesis and St. John to
read, " In the commencement," &c.
Charles F. S. Warren, M.A.
Bridoeford Family (5*^ S. ii. 368.)— With re-
ference to the inquiry of your correspondent Mr.
Trussell, I beg to say that it appears from the
Chetwynd MS. that although the two Bridge-
fords (Great and Little), co. Stafford, originally,
that is before the Conquest, belonged to the Bishop
of Coventry and Lichfield as members of Eccles-
hall, they were afterwards divided between the
co-heirs of the Noels. Great Bridgeford belonged
to several generations of Grimes (Hen. IIL to
Edw. IIL). It then came to the Staffords of
Clifton Camville, and afterwards, by sale (temp.
Hen. IV.), to the Whitgreaves, who held it until
the death of Sir Thos. Whitgreave at the close of
the seventeenth century. Little Bridgeford, at a
remote date, partly came to Harcourts through the
Noels, and partly to Ronton Priory ; and at the
dissolution of the monasteries, to the king*s grantee,
Gifford of Chillington. These descents would
seem to account for all holdings of the Bridgeford
lands in this county. It is, however, also stat^ in
the MS. above cited that, in the 18 Rich. IL, John
de Bruggeford, son of Adam Waterson, was pos-
sessed of divers lands here, which he left to tfohn
Bruggeford, his son, who was one of the esquires
belonging to Edmund Duke of York (the duke
was cousin of the king, and was killed at Agin-
court), and attended him in the French wars 3
Hen. v., and seems from the gnint of arms* to
have been much in favour with that warlike prince.
This John Bridgeford passed away his land in
Bridgeford to John Birkhead and others, and we
then lose sight of the name altogether in this
county. The grant of arms is of "gules, trois
faucons argent,"— not, as stated by your correspon-
dent, "gules, two bars between three martlets,
argent,"— consequently there may have been a
ditterence of branch or race. T. J. M.
Stafford.
Altar Rails Covered (5*^ S. ii. 309.)— This
custom is still found in several churches. Amongst
others, I may mention St. Mary's (the University
Church), Oxford ; St. Mary's, Prestbury, Glouces-
tershire, and All Saints*, Lambeth. Up to the
year 1841, it had been a custom at St. Mary's,
Thame, Oxon. The strip of linen is technically
known as the " houselling cloth," and is intended
to prevent any particle of the Holy Sacrament,
when being received, from fiilling to the ground.
Frequent representations of its use may 'be found
in mediaeval MSS. It was sometimes held by
two acolytes, or clerks, when the priest communi-
' The origintd is ia the WHUam Salt Library, Stafford.
cated the faithful. I believe that its use is very
general in the Roman Catholic communion.
Frbdeiiick Gboroe Lex.
All Saints' Vicarage, Lambeth.
The old " houselling cloth" was in use from veiy
early times, for it is found (Maskell's Monumenta
Ritiialia, iii. 134) in every coronation office, from
Ethelred, 978, to George IV., 1820. For other
modern instances of its use, the Rector of Strct-
ham is referred to " N. & Q.," 2«'> S. i. 144. At
Wimbome Minster it remains constantly in the
church, on narrow tables or low benches, for I
have seen both names used, which take the place
of the altar rails ; and this probably it was which
gave rise to the tradition perhaps known to some
of " N. & Q.'s," readers, that a daily celebration has
existed ever since the Reformation in this church,
and only ceased very lately. I may be allowed
to say that I lately took some pains to look into
that matter, and on writing to the Rev. Lester
Lester, presbyter of the Minster, he told me that
he was aware of the tradition, and had been asked
before whether it could be verified, but that he
could never find the least authority for it of any
kind whatever. Charles F. S. Warren, M.A.
Not only the altar but the benches in the
chancel of Wimbome Minster are always kept
covered with white cloths. No accounts of the
Minster that I have seen state why. C. B. T.
Eton.
This custom is a continuation of the Pre-Refor-
mation " houselling cloth." It is generally used in
Roman Catholic churches in England at the
present day, and is generally spoken of as the
communion cloth. It is held under the chin by
the communicant, in case of any accident with
the consecrated wafer. M. H. F.
The strip of cloth mentioned is the " houselling
cloth," which was formerly held by an acolyte at
each end of the step on which the communicants
knelt, in order to catch any crumbs that might
fall during their reception of the Blessed Sacra-
ment. E. A. B.
Trin. Coll. Oxon.
At a celebration in an Armenian church in Con-
stantinople, at which I was present in 1856, the
" houselling cloth" was used, held by two (I think)
Deacons ; it had a painting upon it, but I forget
the subject. E. L. Blenkixsopp.
Large Oak (5*^ S. ii. 366.)— Since reading Mr.
Pickford's notice of the Marton oak, I have made
a pilgrimage to that monarch of the iforest ; " ma-
jestic, though in ruin." Much of the tree has
mouldered away, and only three mighty fragments
of the trunk remain. These are separate from
each other.
The diameter of the trunk ia, in one direction
at 3 feet iibovo the surface of the ^und on the
higher aide, 14 feet ; in another direction, 12 feet.
At the Burfuce of the ground where the spurs of
the tree enter the earth, the dijuueter is from 20
to 22 feet, The circumference meaaured on the
surface of the groundia 71 feet lU inches, and at
3 feet from the ground on the upper side, 45 feet.
Tlio height of the onk appears to be about dO
feet only. It is a broad-he^detl, short-stemmed,
wide-bmncbed tree, like those de>at;ribed l»y Scott
in the opening scene of Ivunhoi,
The agal giant is still living, and bas mBHj
branches, ulihongb the trunk h but a shell, conaifit-
iiig of three distinct isolated ninasea, with open-
ings between them, varying from 2 to 9 feet
wide. The lower limbs shoot from the stem
^ about 12 feet from the ground. It i& the
ineas of the trunk which has, probably, saved
noble tree from the woodnxan*s a^e, Unfor-
tunately for its appeamnce, the superb wreck does
not stAnd in park or foreat or on greensward, but
at the comer of a farm*yard, utterly neglected, the
palisaded fence which once encircled and protected
it being broken nnd ruined in several places ; and
^jtbe ^^'•tii'v nnoe filled with heart of oak, now made
r harrows^ farming implements, bricks
bd % As to the apparent diacrejxincy
between the above measurements and those given
already in " K. S: Q,," they can be accounted for
by the rupgedness and varying thickness of the
bole and tne height ; the girth may be taken from
tbe sloping ground on which the tree stands.
To this reverend oak, which ** chronicles on its
furrowed trunk ages before the Conquest," certain
well-known lines may be well applied : —
" JSInjeatic tree, whose wriukrd form Imtli stood,
Age after age, the pAtriftrcb of the wood I
* * • « *
Gigantic o«k 1 thy hoary head sublitnet
Ere while munt periah in the wrecks of Time.
t^hoald roand thy bead innocuous KghtriiDgs shoot,
And no fierce whirlwind shake thy steudfast root.
Yet sihalt thou fall ; thy leafy troftsca fade.
And those bare icfttt«r'd antlers strew the glade :
Arm after arm shall leave th^ mouldering bust.
And thj firm fibres crumble into duit/'
George R. Jesse^
F,S. The dimensions were very carefully ascer-
tiuned by a good 33-feet surveying box-tape.
That of the circumference at the level of the
ground was taken twice over to make certain of
accoracy.
T- ^ ""^'1 FOR THE KlXG*S EviL (5*^ S. li. 42*5,)
- 1 of the S4ime kind as the one inserted
liu_, . .^ , .uJ in other places. Th' ^ vv-.r^. -riven in
compliance with the inatruction n order
to prevent the applicants for r- ! ^^ more
than once, A proclamation to , dated
*' Wbiteball, Janmiry I>, 1*583." i I in the
regi«t«r of Woodstock Chapel* Tber* are many
copies of certificated in the same register ; one
Ruch is : —
" June 13» 16S7, Granted then by the Miaiiter and
Churchwardeni, a certificate testify tng that George, the
SOD of George Whitton of Woodstock I'Arkej, hud noi, to
the best of their knovrledge, Ligcii touched at an/ time
before by hi4 Majesty for the disease commonly caUed
thf9 King's EtiII/*
Ed. Marshall.
"Merrt Margaret,*' &a (5«^ S. ii. 468.)—
C. D. is mistaken in aaying that this poem is not
to be found in Dyce's edition of Skelton, He
will discover it on p. 401, voL i.^ where it forma
one of the ^ngs in tne " Ry^ht delectable tratys©
upon a goodly Gwlande or Chapelet of L:iurelL''
S. G. L,
Fragmentary Lines of Poetry ascribed to
Burns (5*** S. ii,426.) — The lines are not frogmen-
tjiry, neither are they, in my opinion, by Bnrns.
The song is complete^ and has been set to music ;
but It has never been claimed for Barns by any of
his editors^ so far as I know. The song begins, —
" O where shall I g»e seek my bread ?
Or where Bhall I gae wander \
Or where Hball I gae hide tny head 1
For here I '11 bide uae lunger
The seae may row, the winds may blow.
And swathe tne round in danger;
My native land I must forcgio,
And roam a lonely ttranger.
The glen that wag my father*a ovm
Must bo by hii forsaken ;
The hou«e that was my father'i homo
Ib levelled with the bracken^
Ochon ! '* kc.
Two other stanzas and a half. If Dr. K ah age
wishes to have tbe complete song, and tbe music
to whicb it is set, I shall be glad to let him have
them. James Hogg.
Stirlinif.
The Termination "y" ik the Naicbs op
Places {b^ S. ii. 320, 455.) —The etynjolofry of
the correspondent of the TnUtmidiaire requires
ft little correction. To u may. Cam bray, Gmrtray,
&c.,are derived from the old Latin names, Tumuc-
nm, CarmtraC'Um^ Cortoriac-nm. In this district
such terminations are common. We have Geso-
riac-um (now Boulogne), Minariac-um, Viroviac-
nm, Nemetjic-nm^ &c. It will be observed that
these are all in French Flanders, Wiien we come
into the Ijow Dutch district, the wyks succeed, as
in Oiater-wyk, Waalwyk, Oospik, &c. There
can be little doubt that wyk or xvich and ac mean
the same thing, a habitjition or dwelling-place.
Ach also found in many terminations in the Bouth
of France, as Mursac, Lusj^ac, Levizac, Quissac^
Gi^nc, i&c. As the termination h;i8 no meaning
in rlit t VlUc dialects, it is thought that it is a relic
« ■ iU nice« who peopled the dintritt in pre-
* ' ^* One thing is cert^iin^ that neither
wtjk tiwr ^ means water. Ac cannot be derived
524
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5«^aiLDio.26,71
from Int aqua^ for the termmjitioii }mL to he
LatiQized by the addition of the neuter um.
The statement that there is ft Sanskrifc word am
BigDifyLng water h altogether a mistake. There is
no BQch word. There are many words in Sanskrit
fiignifjiDg water ; such m j'i?a, a sheet of water,
paniya^ water to drinkj uda (Lat. nndn^ Gr. v^iiip\
flpj flowing water, &a, the la&t no doubt connected
with Lat aqun^ Goth. a/^Oj Noi^e d, A,S* *a j but
it IB not possible to torture any of these into the
teiinioationa ac or idcL
In A»S., m means water, ig or igCf an island*
The modern English terniination ey or f is made
to do duty for both, and it is often very difficult
without reference to Domesday or other old re-
cordfl to determme which Is meant, Wallas-ey is
Walift^i Island, Oln-ey is tho same, but Waveneyf
Meraey, Caldy, Turvey, and many others may mean
idand or water, according to circumstanc^a.
I thjBk enough has been said to pat uHek out of
court as having any reference to water.
J. A- PiCTOM*
Sand^know«, Wa?«rin!^
"OAKLEmn Forest Code" (5** S, ii 368.)—
I haro got the Oakld^h Shooting Cod^ (which b
probably what H. B. refers to), " containing 220
chapters of information relative to ahootin^ Bed
Grouse, Black-game, Partridges^ Pheasants, Wood-
cocks, Bnipea, and Hares/' &c. James Kidgway
& Sons, Piccadilly, 1856, 12mo, pp, 194. Copies
are probably common enough, but if IL B. cannot
find one, I shall be bappy to lend him mine
W, K
The SodETT df Arts Memorial Tablets (5*^
S. iL 106, 155, 257.)— There is a tablet to the me-
mory of Handel at 57, Lower Brook Street, Han-
over Square. The tablet in King Street, recording
timt " Napoleon III. lived here," is chargeable with
Moordingan untruth. Napoleon III, never lived
there. The old house, a greengrocer*8, I have
understood, in which be had apartments was
pulled down, and the present house built in its
stead. It aeema absurd to record where foreigners
have lived, before we have recorded where our own
English celebrities have resided ; and where only
the site remains, that fact ought to be inscribed on
the tablet. How much more intoreEting it would
have been to have had the spot marked in St,
James's Square where the great Earl of Chatham^s
house was. That, too, the devastators of historic
and beautiful asaociation hiive Temoved, but the
site ought to be marked. Lord Byron's has, I fear,
been rebuilt. It is absolutely foolish to recorti
Franklin^s residence, and to leave Garrick's bouse,
baird by in the Addphi Terrace, unmarked.
C. A, Ward.
Mayfair, W.
Ictim^ across A good article in the Builder of
July 23rd, 1864, and, perhaps, what tnay prove
more useful, the following letter :—
**BiFf — Tha a^lmirfliblfi Bu^gestion Gonlained ia ycrar
paper of laarklDg, in a pemnLnent manner, the re^deDOSi
of great n]«n (wbj not of women too!) in hund&a cai^^
not, I think^ fail of being respondod to. In order t«
carry out tht^^ su^geition into prvottcfti me, U u ^Hdmd
that mt}mi*f muit If forthc^mmQ ; and, M a ^msiwuiff, 1
am auMomWtf, by a kind, a Hbtmlftt^md, £0 mform ps
that he ii ready (& mi^mr^ 20t t(heardt tkUgood *k)m /
and ibould it bo responded to, aa I can hare no d«mbt
tVmt it win be, the monoy wUl be paid on an apph^doa
from jDuneJf m&do to, youra, kc, Epwjlkh J essl**
G, Laiteence Gomme,
Two Cehrchis ik 0»k Chubchtard (5* S. ii
20B, 291.} — Berkeley can scarcely be addneed ai
an instanee, aa aU imces of the origiiud cburch
have long since disappeared- It was, according to
Fosbroke, a coUegiato or prebendal cburcb, and,
falling into decay in the twelfth century, xtM
endowments were granted away successively to the
Abbey of Eeading, the Priory of Stanley, St.
Leonard^ and St. Auguatmo's Abbey at Bri^oL
The present, or parieb church, waa then built,
on the south or opposite side of the churchyard,
by Eobert Fitzhaminge. The old tower remained
(l^e new church being without a tower) cmtU 1753,
when it was palled down and the present tower
erected an its et% ftbout fitly yards from, the
churchp X H. Cooo..
As reference haa been made to the churches of
St. James and St. Mary, Bury Sl Edmuads, it
may be as well to add that another church, dedi-
cated to St. Margaret, h atated to have stood at
the south-east comer. The northern boundary of
the cemetery was the great Abbey Church, so that
there were in fact four cburcbea in this one oeme-
tety. The originals of both St. James and St,
Mary were removed, in the twelfth century, from
their position near the conventual church to make
way for the extension and increased gr&ndeur ef
the great Abbey Church. D^o,
"At Wantage, in Berks."--Furle/s Weald of
Kmtf vol ii p. 754, foot-note.
HARnRIC MoRfHTN,
1. All Saiuta and St. Lawrence, Evesham*
2. The new church and the ancient (now aban-
doned) structure at Thorpe, near Norwich, not fai
from the scene of the recent collision.
3. The churches of Holy Trinity and St
JTicbael, Coventry, in churchyards wbicb, though
separately w;dled, are divided ooly by a madwuy,
and have evidently t^een originally one.
V.H.LLLC.Ly.
Familt of De Yillters (5"* S. il 223, 291)—
The first of the Do Tilliers famOy (now^ alas, pro-
nounced Viljie at the Cape) wore the three elder
sons of Pierre de VQlierSp whoee family, for more
than a century preceding the Bevo<^tion of thiB
J* B, U. Dm; so, 71]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
525
Edict of Xantes, occupied a small patTimonial
estate in the nei^'hbourbood of Kochelle* He had
four eoii=, nfiined Pierre, Abraliam, Jacob, apd
pAul, three of whom were ^rrown up men, the
fourth, Puul, a youngster. The old man, seeinir
what was going on, insisted on the young men
emi^Tating, or al letist leaving Franoe. But when
the uioment of partin>!f came, the old people felt
»o much grief at parting with their last born,
Paul, that idthongh he set out with his brothers on
their way to Holland, to which country, as a haven
to refugees, they turned their st^ps, he was even-
timlly returned to his parents ; while his brothers
accepted the offer of the Chamber of Delft, and
pToceedcd to the Cape, where they settled down
in the neighbourhood of the fertile valley of
Franschc Haek, near the village of Stettenbach,
where many of their descendants are found at the
present day. There is a tradition extant, that in
their later year« they continually made inquiriea
of ^avellers and others who viaitcd their farms, as
to thd fate of the friends they had left in distant
France^ for the affection U:> home still dung to
them, but no one could tell aught of their parents
or their little brother PauL ' The De Villiers
family were amongst tlie first settlers who intro-
duced the cultivation of the vine at the Cape»
The De Villiera family went to the Cape from
Amsterdam in the ship " Zion,*- on Dec, IB, 1688,
and landed there on May (>, 1689. The names of
Beveml members of the Do Villiera family are
Ibund on the list of the Cape civil servants ; but
I cannot say, with any exactitude, as to who
cUiims to be the head of the family. The Hon.
J. H, de Villiera of this family is, however, at
•"" f Justice of the colony, and talces
ordingly, H, Hall.
Tcii'jtr mil,
AMzaicA!f States (5*^ S. ii, 82, 174, 272.)—
May I add one or two observations on this sub-
ject?
5. The correct name of Rhode Island is Rhode
Island and the Providence Plantations. It was
I settled by Roger William^, the Quaker, who yrm
1 diiven from Masiachujietts by the persecutions
1 of the Puritans,
7. New York was originally settled by the
I Bntch, and therefore called the New Netherlanda
I Alter It was taken by the British, it was called
New York,
8. New Jersey was originally settled by Swedes,
An interesting manuFcript has recently been trans-
[ lated and published by the Pennsylvania Histori-
hout its early colonists.
:i was named after Elizabeth by Sir
] The two Carolina.^ were colonized
by 1 .n, f.ixUJ, under patent obtiined by the cele-
brmted Admiral de Coligny, in 15G2, from Charles
IX., and the first expedition was commanded by
Jean Riband,
15. Georgia was so cdled by Croveraor Ogle-
thoq>e.
IS, Louisiana was Law's " Misaiasippi echcme,"
Weu .
Philadelphia*
"Testaments op the Twelve Patriarchs''
(b^^ S, i. 3U6, 394 ; ii. 396, 4*57.)— The edition of
this work in English, specified by Mr. Shaw as
*^ printed by R, Feeny (not Ferny), 2G, St. John
Street, Clerkenwell, 1837," is the Muggletoman
edition. Tbe Brothers Frost, under whose C4*ro it
wtxs issued, wore leading members of this sect,
which holds the canonicity of the work in question,
as also that of the Book of Enoch.
iVla. Shaw haa omitted to mention that the
title of this English version gives ** Testament^''
not ^* Testaments." This, though obviously incor-
rect, is also commonly found in earlier English
editions. It fihould further be stated, that this
1837 edition (pp. 162) has an Appendix, sepa*
rately paged (pp. 42) of "Derivations, chiefly
from the Hebrew, and explanations of several
proper names occurring in the precerling work."
This is '* by a Professor of Hebrew," and has a
different printer, J. Wertheimer ^ Co., Finsbury
Circus. In all the copies I have seen, the second
title referring to this Appendix is misplaced in the
folding, BO as to form the last page of the work.
Your Teamed correspondent, R, n., inquired about
this edition, and I have had the pleasure of plac-
ing a copy of it in his hands. V^,LL.I.C,I.V.
Mr, Disraeli's Expression op " Flouts, and
Jibes, and Jeers *' (5"» S. ii. 168,23^1, 398.)—
Tnless Mr. Disraeli himself will enlighten ub, it
seems useless to inquire whether the quotation
from Rfibelais, given by Dr. Ram age, was in his
thoughts or not on the occasion referred to. If
guesses are admissible, I would remind Dr.
Ramaoe that the words are to be found in Shak-
speare, and that it is, perhaps, more likely that
they were suggested to the speaker from this
source. Charles Wtlie.
"As Sound as a Roach " (5«« S. ii. 274, 314,
45S.) — The German form of the proverb, **Gesund
wie ein Fi«ch,'* with Ray*8 " As sound as a trout^"
show thnt " roach " or '* trout " are only taken as
types of fish in general. The expression seems to
be taken from the lively movements of a fish in
the water. ** Plus sain qu'un gardon, more lively
and healthful than a gardon (roach), than which
there is not any fish more healthful nor more
1 i vely .*'^ — Co tgra ve. " Praia com me un gardon," —
Littre, H. Weikswood.
31 J Queen Aane Stroet, W.
** Grewe," i. «., Greek (5«* S. ii. 2<>4, 260, 274,
355.)~The following passage from the Mirmr o/
i^^
Ik
526
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[5* 8. IL Dm. 26, 74
Oar Ladtj, edited liy the Rev, J. H. Blunt (p. 90),
to which he has called my ntteutioD, seems to
clear] ]r establish the nieaniDg of thi^ word, and to
convict me of error in raj previous conjeclure : —
*' Til ji words Hympne yi a worde of ffnw, and jb ai
tDOcbe to iaye na a prayiiyngfl. And Ihja worde p«ftlmo
it A worde t^TffVfiP uImj."
Johnson Bati^t,
The pRKTKNDii^ii i^ Ekoi^;id (fj*"* S. iL 408,
432.) — Sorae notices of a Bupposed visit of the
Prince Chtvrles Edward to England are in the
Montkhj Ma^ftnni (voK xlix, p. 25 , Sf^q.^ 1820},
m '* Topoi^raphical Sketches of Oxfordshire/' and
were derived from Dr. BrookeSj the EectoT of Ship-
ton-nnder-Whichwood, who, aa a very old man,
gave a visitor such information in his recollections
of past time. The visitor, whoie name I am not
aoquftinted with (and have not preserved, if appear-
ing in the mngrts^in©}, inserted tliem in an article
described as above. £d, M^EsnALL.
The Blessed Teistle (5*^ S. ii, 48, 95, 198,
239,)— T am unoble to say ithether the legend
attached to this plant in Switzerland be found
here or elsewhere, hut I have known the same
legend applied here to the Pnlmonuria^ or garden
Inngwort. 1 was once wametl by an old weeding
woman of the ill lack that wouhl follow its threa-
tened eradication from my border ; " for don'c 'ee
know," said she^ "that thev spotai on the leaves
were made by the Virgin Mary's milk ? " Cer-
tttinly, I was ii^nonint of the fact, and of course
decided instantly on retaining the old-fashioned
plant, but only as a living illu«tnition of a chi^s
of harmless popular HUperatitioii^, wliicb the school-
mai5ter h doing hh teat to eradicate from the
rustic mind. T. W. W, K
NoMRiscLATitRE OF Vkiucles (Ti^ B. ii. 14R,
235, 308.)— We have in Craven a vebicle called a
"White Chapel.** What is the origin of the
name? Also another, cjiUed a "Shandary/* a
name eq^uaUy inexplicable, STErnEX Jacicson,
" John JASrER's Secret " (5*^ S. ii. 407, 475.)
—Mr* Collins is slightly in error. Tliii* work
was not first published in Americ^a. It was set
in type from the nmnuseript in En^dsmd ; then
fit-ereotyped, a set of plates sent to Amt rica, and
published simultaneously in the Chimniij Compr
m En gland T and in Finnk Leslie's newspaper ia
Anierjca. The illnstmtion!! were driiwn und en-
graved in England, ^\\ T, \Y,
TiTK Boxes of tjie PnAUAons (5^^* S. ii. 3B5,
434.)— Some few years ago the skull of Sir Thomas
Browne (who in his Hydriolophm «peiiksofonr
being " knaved out our graves ") was taken out of
his vault in the church of St, Peter Man croft,
^orwichj and haying been disposed of for a conside-
ration, was placed by the purchaser in the ronsenm
of the Norwich Hospitai* Kiubt Trivhks.
.Norwich,
Prondnciatioh of '* Aches" (5*^ S, iL 68^
139, 458.) — I came across the following the othff
day in the SfiHreM of Bishop Hall(A,D. 1574*1656!}:
" Or GoUm wore a velf et mnstick patch
Upon bet- templet when do (ooth did teho,**
It is in Siitire 1, Book tL of Tht Thrte Lad of
Byiing Baiiru, ABTEtra H. Browit.
LaTIK ANB EnOHSM Qt?AKTlTT (5^ S. L 464 ;
ii, 13, 417,)— Will J. I^C. S, oblige one of ''tlis
million '^ by mentioning the names of, say thsei^
well-known " elegant speakers " who ** always sij
contemplate (t^m^luvi}^ not contemplate *' ?
St. SwiTHJir,
iMfdnnjuiruutf,
NOTES ON BOOKS, Ao.
Gcramtc Art in BanoU Agu. With Essays on tb«
Symbols of the Circle, the Cross and Cifde,
the Circle and Kay Ornament, the Fylfot and th«
Serpent, Showing their ReUtion to the Primi-
tive Forms of Solar and Nature Worehip. By
J, B, Waring. (Day.)
Too many splendid folios that appear at this tiiod
of the year have only their splendour to tecom*
mend them, Mr, Waring^s folio is an exoeptioik
It ia not intended merely for the eye, thoagh
numerous Bne engravings so address tbemsclrea.
It is also intended for the mind, to which it fur-
nishes ample matter for thought, and a larfi
amount of instruction, some of which is of a reiy
rare and curious quality. The free and indepen-
dent spirit in which Mr, Wariag writes ia well
known to a pretty numerous public ; and he has
never eKpressed himself more freely or indepen-
dently thsn on the present occasion. One cod-
cluslon at which this zealous inquirer has arrived
i^, *^ that the evidences of intercommunication and
a fashion coutmon to large l>odies of the early
inhabitants of Europe arc placed beyond dotiht,
and the compamtive lateness of mnny so-called
prehistoric remains in stone, bronze^ &c., is alao
demonstrated by facts," Mr. Waring's object, in
fjict, is to estiihlJHh **a system of i&omparative
Art''; and the present folio is devoted to "the
Earthenware of the Primitive Races of Europe,''
It is impossible to give more than a faint idea,
within our narrow limits, of the contents, tbe
details, and speculations to be found in this faUo
volume, Mr, Waring maintains that "the wor-
ship of our forefrtthera was esseotially a Naiun
worship \ and there is every reason to believe, from
the character of their circular atone monuments^
and from the symbols on tbe earthenware buried
with their dead, that tbe worship of the Sun wsj
dominant, was of a pure cbantcter, and was &o4
associitted with any of those idolatrous and hi^r-
««»8.1I.Dki2«,'7*.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
527
ribie practices whicli cKoracterized the worship
'" lie SuD amongst the Kg^^ptians, Plitcnicians,
•iiMis, Indiana, Greeks^ Romans, a ad Mexi-
aB«/ In connexion with Christmas Day and
3uii*wor3hip, Mr, Waring says ; ** Christmas Day
. does not mark the actual birthday of the
iPounder of the Church, for that day is absolutely
I unknown ; but ... it was pronounced to be the
r25th of December simply because it happened to
I be the principal festival of the worship of Mithr:\a,
liLs beiof^ the day on which the Snn entered its
I Winter Solstice, as Chrys«»stom expresses it. On
this day (^Oih December), the birthday of Christ
I WAS lately fixed at Rome, in order that whilst the
[lieathens were occupied in their profane ceremonies*
Ithe Chrisitians might perform their holy rites un-
I disturbed,'^
How far Mr. Waring will succceed in bringing
lliis readers to agree with his own conclusions, we
loinnot say; but no one will dispute that in this
[iblio, with its tive-and-hfty plates, and its indis-
I pensable Index, the public possess one of tlie ablest
[of Mr. Warin^t'ft works, and one of the most tiiste-
Ifnl that Mr. John Bay has issued from the Sa%"oy
Press.
The Diary of II. M. thf Slurh <\f Peritia dvi'^n^ hit Tour
tkrvngh Europe in 1873. Bv J. W. lle<Thr>u«e. A
. Vcrbfttim TmnsUtion. With Vortriiit. (Murray, )
Wb ctiu only ndd our testimony to that of many otliers,
t)nmcly„ that thi^ geuuino book i« got up in a way Tvorthy
of iU subject. One can bapUly put down the elegant
coTer on its ioteresttng pages without thinkinir, aJFter
mllf how small il personnge is Kiwr ul Din ; and how in-
~" *'[cant hia empire compared with the aovereign and
Inion of esrly timpfi, when the Pemsn Empire was
ti%e of the half of Europe, touched the waters of the
Mediterranean, the ^Egean, the Black, the Caapioo^ the
Indiftn, th«.* Pemati, tb^ Red Se&i^ and contained within
it* t " ' irrandeat rivers in the world,
I the ' the Indus, the Jaxarton, the
)i« ii nbove a tbouaand miles tn
[]6Qgtb« Wkt fcceivcd tbe Shtth with ft9 luuch ** circum-
Ivttuee ** B.9 if he hud been Lord Paramount of that once
gorgcouj empire,
Ijl/flwrttV of MarffArtt, Couni*i$ of Richmond and Derby.
By the' laic ChJirlcs Ifenrr Cooper, F.S.A. Edited
for the two Cnltejjjea of her foundation- (Cambridge,
Bclghtmi, Ikll k Co. ; London^ Bell & Sons.)
I Tns Rev. John Eyton Dickerstoth Mayor has Tery
I Kfiioiently edited Mr. Cooper't ?a]uable memoir of a true
' f the olden time. jMr. Mayor baa added
! himself. ** In setting before the c-^^'legca
ir fo«ndr<?si by a "tmnger to her house/*
, he yn, ** I claim the right as of a wo' nigh
I thir rjsioner at her board, to lay some offering
I of Uiy -Mii uL her tomb/' This valuable addition ii in
the interesting Appendix, There are also a nsefal
' Qlm'Oiry find a carefully compiled Inde.\. The reader
^ill hiirdly cloee tho Tolume without baTing come to
I the conctuiiion that the learned, dignified, lowly-minded
3Iargaret Beaufort was a thousand tiniea greater &*: an
EngliHh woman than her «on iraa ta an Engliah king,
I Henry VU/e murder of the boy Earl of Warwick was
fts fvul a crime, at least, as Hicliard Ill/a murder of
I the young princes, Lis nepheirn
IlUfMrationt of tht Life of Shahtpeare, in a Discurttvt
Seria of Eiaayt ofi a Variety of SnlJ^cU connecltd
wilk the. Personal and Literary History of the QftiU
DramaifxL Parti, (Longmans It Co.)
I» about 130 folio pat^s, Mr. J, O. Halliwcll hr»s con-
tribnted much raluable information aa to Burbage's
" desenriiig nmn " and his timea. This was to be ex-
pected from such a practised hand, and from such an
unnearied power of reac&rch, aa Mr. Haltiweirs. The
merits of the first part tuduce us to look with »ome
impatience for the second. Meanwhile, we make note
of one of the author's rcmarka, which is worthy of beiujg
borne in mind by the occuaionally perplexed readers of
Sbuks||>eare. *' It li not improbable that tome of ^httkC'
Bpcare a works, perfect in their art, when represented
before a select audience, might have been deteriorated
by their adaptation to the public stage ; and that in &omo
instances the latter copies only have boen preserved/*
The Bnrne Calendar : a Manval of Burmiana, relatina
Event* in the PoeCt Hiitory^ Names nt$ociattd teith
hi* Life and Writin^Mj a evndu Billiouranhy, and a
p - '' ^ fturna Keltcs. (Kilmarnock, M'Kic.)
Ȥ. of the QUnriddd MSS. of Burfit*s Poemty
1' PoeMM nmer before I*tihiijthed, Edit<fd by
Henry A. Bright. Printed for Private Circulation*
(Livcrpooh Gilbert it Walmaley.)
ThR.sk two volumes are indiapenanble to all libraries coU"
taining the works and biography of Burns, whose owners
wish to possess in a convenient form every sort of sup-
plementary knowledge that could be collected having
reference to the poet, the man, and bis productions.
Mr. 3M*Kie*# work ia of real general Tolue^ tmd Mr.
Bright's of particular interest.
Uitiory of the Conjlict bei%teen Religion and Science. By
J. W. Draper, M.D. (H. 8. King it Co.)
Diu BaAPKa's book is the thirteenth volume of the weU-
eatablisbed International Scicntllic Series. Tho author
ia Professor in tho Univeraity of Mew York. He has
written a work that was univcrFallv desired, and wunt^
ing this bist^jry we should lack all clear knowledge of
the conflict that began at Alexandria and ia racing now.
l>r. i'raper, referring to the early ; r ' n of tho
new religion of Christianity by ml remarks,
that ''none of the ancient clnssic^i i ^ ; i ; hers had
ever taken advantage of such a means/'
Th£ History of Advertising, fi'om the Earliest Timet,
IMustmted by A need o ten, curious Specimens, and Bio*
graphical Notes. By Uenry Sampson. With lilustni^
tions and Fac similes. (Chatto k Windus.)
Mk. Sjimfsov^b book is one of tlie most amusing Ihut we
hare met with for a long period. It is a wonderful
chronicling of social history in every possible form.
77k IForjb of Alfred Tmnyson* JdylU of (he Ring,
(U.S. King it Co.)
Trns is the seventh volume of the elegant, portahle, and
cheap serioa of the works of the Poet- Laureate, which
will be comprised in ten volumes. A more "handy'*
edition, or one more likely to be pcnuanently popularj ii
not to be expected.
Wk have received The Philotophu of HamUi, by T.
Tyler, M.A. (Williams k Norgftte.) The able writer^
interpreting the sentiments of Hamlet, suggcsta thnt,
"wo may with probability conclude that we have in the
conduct of Hamlet a dramatic representation of the will
of man as governed by a higher Will, a Will to nbich all
fictions and events are subordinate, and which, in as
mysterious and incomprehensible manner, is ever tending
to the accomplishment of inscrutable purposes/*— iJny
Sh4tche$ of the Parithei of Bootersiotm and Donnylrook,
in the County of Dublin^ by the Rftx. ^. \i..\^a«J*ssiL.
628
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(Dublin, Herbert, 1 A very amuairtg and useful little
j-^corl of t\v <iijt euburba of Dublin,— /*r«c«i
Pmitinn oj rcArarttf: a Ftw Word* front a
Liii/man/ {L., ...^.■•.,^,} Earl Nelaon's ftdTice is to
" demnnd with a united Toice from CottTocmtioti, tUe
maintt'iiance of the Book of Common Prayer in iti in-
te^rity^ and the preservation of all the old Catholic
hciita^'c of our Church."— JA* Potition of ths Cei^rant
at the Ilobi ComTMumon^ a* IlttliU hy tkt Purchat Judg-
men/, consfdertd ta a LtUer to the Lord Bixhop of Win-
ckist^r, hy Morton Shaw, M.A. (Rivingtoup.) A fairly
V. St, 111 which the meftnlngs of ** North side"
L eiid'* Hre discuaaed with temperate con'-
gi I { the "Judgment " and its iosuea.
Mb. H. T. WxitE, OcKikermouth, writes :— " In a Email
thrabbery adjoininj^ a bouw at Moaser, near Cocker-
montbi, boa recently l^cen found a nia^ire finger-riog^ of
fine gold* When diBcorered, it wa* lying on the surfnce,
but 19 fuppoeed to have been remoyed ulong with some
mould from a garden at the back of the house a short
time previously. It is pUin inside, without any hall-
murk, but the exterior is polygonal in shape, having the
fullowing inscription engraved in large capitala on thir-
teen fuccta, YisLi —
+ { 10 I SV I I ' 8 [ la I N I E i I DB I AM I II I T I
K : I A.
The poesiy eeems to be "Josui signs dk amis ts/'
and to mean " Jofhua's token of love to thee/' the A
folloiving being the initial of the young woman to whom
it waa prefl«nted. I take it to be a betrothal ring of the
eleventh or twclftb century, and from the admixture
of the Roman and Gothic u in the inscription, which
peculiarly appears also in the great seal of William the
Conqueror, in the word " kvkdk," as well also from its
being in French, it is probably as old as the Norman
period. I bought it of the farmer^a wife who found it/'
OuTiA Serres.— Mk Wm. CBArPELL writcs : — "AjS
an example of the manner in which the soidimnt Prin-
cess of Cumberland turned her impudent pro tensions to
frofitable account, the following muy be worth printing,
have extracted it from my daughter's book of auto-
graphs:—
"'No. 15, Lambeth Road,
*' ' r, Olive, Princess of Cumberland, covenant to pav
Mr. Francis HoUingK, Sc^licitor, No. 1(), Lambeth Road,
the gum of one hundred pounds sterling out of His late
Mijjcsty George IIL*a legocey of 15,000;. to myself, as
proTfd at Doctors' Commons^ in consideration of Mr*.
EUzabeth Uollingsi kindly teaching my daughter^ Lavinla
Serres, singing and the piano. Witness my signature,
this Sfitli of August. 1822. Ouvs,' "
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By FREDERICK GEORGE LEE.
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** Another DurratiTe poem hai been prodtiead by Ibe
imaj^inatlan and prftclii«d pen of Dr. P. €t. L««u Jfe
rapidly from century to c*Dt«ifj, tmelng tli« «il hi
Cornish fHiuily* en >vhoiii an uvi of tl«teerailioB l«
lonjT »eriei of 'calAmUi«t, t 'rinfnntlTifr fw ettlttrttrtn.
infttes and Kjiropathlei ar^
if tver. btfC'D ejipreswd sn
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fully to the futaru, Ivo
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ko^age In wbkh h« it i
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*The Belli of ItuttevilU'
an earnoftt, fervid, and t-
self and fM '^mjoct "— r'.
»*1i ■ ,.,..,„,,,.
ckftr
exprt-
absent from the workj of our
nice at once that under the \tv*y
fancy and carefulty-elubomtpd diLtkiu, u [. ;
cealad,and yon ri»e from dio pc>ni*jU Krith j.
of the tavMhk^ a deepening of the religi _ a ^
awful iense of that ileeplett Provldtnce for vhicJt ttaUtint ^
too nilnute» and which Tindicatea iy>cH in the actious aiid lim
of men.** — Union Rex-ietc.
"Dr. Lee Is no mUk-and-MmUr poet, TLs . i
himself, mcMuiB what h« saytt and saya v I
mincing^ Inn^ri^. Fow men poiieas the ^.i.^- y,^^i, cuUi
from the [iiilpil or wHh the pen* ef itirring tf|» btntwn m
readers, as ho fiosscsMs, And yet no nia.a has a. k««n«r •MMi of
thfi toA and tender side of nAiure, or a mon revertul < ~
for all tbioga sacred-" — Miirning f'att,
**He has evidently a musical ear, as w«ll m a rkll
tlon. There is a depth of thou(fbl In his rencs aol uaworUijr
of the author of the ' Christian Year' ^'—Tablet.
" The ctory of the poecn fi told with mnch ilraoiatit I
the interest Is well maintained » and t1 >
introduL'cd with an a}most eplgraii
lyrics, which here and there occur, ar< ^^i:4
** Will add considerably to the reputalton
as it already standi, as a writer of sacred i
*« Marked with a rare felicity of dieti
rhythm; and we would cnH *i»i.<*fi ii tiHt-rw,
llyle the * landscape pon
** Elat a musical ear,
diction, knows horr * •
he nddf a deep rr i
truth, which et«tiir
tlan and Cati »
" May bo
by his inert .
marit, wUh nJi liiii kunwis power uri<l viiir^jnr^ i<iUfip
descriptions of Nature and oauinil objeeta ot '
ilmple beauty.*' — Obierver,
.Aji
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H
" A. (A.) on "Bonnie Dmidee,'* 5
Alexander, or Zinzan family, 26, 53. 216, 558 ^^^1
Fraaer of Bmy, hia examinfttioo, 341
Alexander 11., hi« titles, 36, 55. 72, 96, 175 ^^H
A. (A. a) on Sandwich lalwida, 175
Allington (T.), minor poet, 135, 497 ^^^^B
Stuart ftnd SutherlftDd, 174
Allnutt (W. U.) on the word antieDt, 378 ^^H
Abhha on Towers'ii *» UluBtrationi of Propliecj/' 448
Clarke (Rev. Stephen), 116 ^^^H
AbulJement, its meaning, 328. 374
" Life of Ayder Ali Khan/* 396 ^^^1
Acacia and freemasonry, 157
Pope's Tickell'fl Homer, 476 ^^^1
Accentuation, insular^ 66 ; American, 164
AllyiegB! Oylegeag*, 7 ^^H
Acbeft, iU pronunciation, 6S, 13&» 458, 52*3
AJmx dishea, brain, 309 ^^^H
Aero lioU of Anns. Bee Derinff,
Alpine fox^ogi, 89 ^^^H
A, D. on "DomiDgo Gonaalea," 110
AlpresB family arms, 35 ^^^H
Killiecrankie tradition, 145
AlUr rails covered, 309, 522 ^^H
Adam, hie firRt wife, 132, 217
American eulogy on women, 147* 4$3, 480 ^^^H
^Adara, why it meAna North, Sonth, Ea«t, ajid Weat, 76
American reprints. 835 ^^^H
HA. {D, D.) on witchcraft in ScotUnd, 83
American States, origin of their names* 82, 272, 525 ; ^H
HAddia (J.) on '* God bleaa the mark," 215
their popular names, 174, 272 ^^H
^B " Odteman,'' its meaning, 153
Amiada, a Christian name, 237 ^^^^|
^M Parallel passages, 303
Anagram, 260 ^^^H
^m Party, io the eenio of a petion, 520
Anecdote, old clerical, 204, 259 ^^H
^1 ShAkspeanan% 476
*■ Anecdote Lives,'* an aphorism in, 365, 452 ^^^^1
■ TeonvBon(A.), '* The Poet," 288
*'Angler'BAsgijiUnt," engraved broadsheet, 238 ^^^H
■A« (E. H.) on Lord ColHngwood, 877
Anglo-Sootus on Arthur's Oven on the Carron, 610 ^^^H
H "God and the King/' 9
Fitsalana and Stewarts, 432 ^^^1
^1 Hi^rdy ^Rov. Samuel^ 9
St. MlchAers Church, 227 ^^^H
^M Nile, course of the river, 266
Scottish hUtory, 343 ^^^H
V Boa (T^iUiam de), of Yolton, 288
Stnbbft's ''ConstitutioQal History,*' 304 ^^^H
■ A. (E. B,) on geographical query, 3l>7
Totnes (Johel de), 334 ^^^1
■ Affidavit eiridenc*^ 186
Aane, a manV name, 478 ^^^H
Africa, a lea-port town, 56
Aime (Queen) and the Dnchess of Marlborough, 27, ^H
African aggry bead», 415
303, 434 ^^M
A. (F. S.) on LiddeU t^. Went^rton, 157
Anon, on unantborked arms, 272 ^^^^|
Agnew (I). C. A) on Street Araba In 1816, 465
Hervey (T. K.), poem by, 89 ^^^H
A. (U. S.) on H/J. Bellan, fko-similiat, 28
Poem^ anonymous, 307 ^^^H
'- Dim I^ou," a poem, 129
^^^^H
k •' Private History of the Court of EngtaAd," 277
Anomymout Works:— ^^^H
BAtd of anno Zi Edward I., SI
Abbess of Shaftesbury, 109 ^^H
HKikmn.. ir>..K.H, ..lii..r ,.f YaU ColL MoffOxkie, 86
Abbotamere, a tale, 109 ^^^1
Ha i Vorkiihire, US
Acaaen^c Errors, 109, 1 56 ^^^H
Ha. i.' .$ Charles I., 2ti5
Acadian Code of Signals^ 109 ^^^H
AooompUsbed Hypocrite^ 109 ^^^^|
530
INDEX.
f iBdex Sarokmait to the Votewt
I Qonks. vitb Ko. H, Jan. ]«. lOTL
Anonymous Works: —
Acrofls the Channel, 109
Anaoreon's Odes, 512
Archsologioal Epistle, 150, 251, 270
Australian Dramaf, 55, 497
Avon, a poem, 829, 352
Ayder-Ali-Khan, History of, 329, 396
Butterfly's BaU, 327, 352. 872, 418, 458
Christianity as Old as Creation, 149, 175, 195, 376
Church Revived, 108
Comes Facundus in Via, 384
Considerations on the Marriage of the Duke of
Cumberland, 307, 434
Court Convert, 345, 495
Court of England, Private History of, 208, 277,
318
Cry of Nature, 367, 496
Deinology ; or, the Union of Reason and Ele-
gance, 68, 155
Divine Poems, 446
Domingo Gonsales, 110, 209, 394
Don Leon, a poem, 129
Down with the Mug, 287, 333, 358
Economy ; or, a Peep at our Neighbours, 124
English Transactions in the East Indies, 329
Fielding's Proverbs, 209, 414
Fifty Years' Recollections of an Old Bookseller,
288, 455
'* Fresh Waters from a Fresh Spring," 82
Glory of their Times, 33, 115, 257
Golden Meane, 447
Haronn Alompra, a drams, 110
Heraclitus Ridens, 268
History of Scotland, 68,114
Incompleteness, a poem, 408
John «fasper'8 Secret, 407, 475, 526
Jonson*s (Ben), junior. Poems, 208
King Coal's Lev^, 110, 174
Lambard's Ancient Laws, 135
Letters of Sir Thomas Fitzosbome, 408
Little Poems for Little Readers, 110, 173, 194
Lives of the English Saints, 229, 293
Lizabee*s Love Stoiy, 154
Man in the Moon, 210, 394
Millennium, dramatic poem, 49
Modem Account of Scotland, 268, 433
New State of England, 1691, 429, 475
Nubilia, 407, 497
Philanthropist, a poem, 408
Procbs (Le) des Trois Rois, 95, 357
Rarities, 513
Reginald Trevor, a tale, 19, 137
Rights of the Christian Church, 105, 376, 415
School Dialogues for Boys, 367
Second Maid's Tragedy, 465
Sibilla Odaleta, 58
Skating Literature, 107, 156, 318, 379
Talleyrand de Perigord (0. M.), Memoirs of, 329
The Widow of the Wood, 88, 136
Universe, The, 428
Walk in ShetUnd, 69
Whale's Jubilee, 418,518
Wisdom's better than Money, 134
Antient, a military term, 182, 878
Ante hying up com, 494
Anwjl, a Welsh word, 19, 187
Ap, m Welsh surnames, 157, 257
Apparitions, spiritual, 476
Archssologioal Institute^ 40, 400
Archer fiunily of Woroestershire^ 21, 94, 196
Areawt, a Lancashire word, 184
Argyll : "The Bonnie House of Airlie," 28, 74, 113
Aristo, phydcian at the Court of Akbar, 308, 453
Aristophanes, <'The Eofflish," 325, 404, 484
Aristotle on dancing ana poetry, 828, 491
Arithmetic: Casting out nines, 86
Armiger, a nom de plume, 458
Armour in churches, 888, 494
Arms, assumption of, 78, 477 ; nnanthoriied, 187,
272; Dering Roll, 283; Northern BoU, lemf.
Richard II., 842, 442 ; of English Sees^ 462; 519.
See Heraldic and Heraldry,
kxTsx^, the Parliamentary, flogging in, 86
Armytage (D.) on " King Coal's Lev^** 110
Pelegrin (Abate), anecdote, 249
R. (W. J.), " Fresh Waters," 82
Tea-table, lines on 511
Arnold (F. H.) on <'The Golden Meaoe,** 447
Aroint, in Shakspeare, 184, 277
Arthur (Mrs. Mary), a centenarian, 122
Arthur's Oven on the Carron, 510
Arthurian localities : Scotiand, 181
Artichoke, the Jerusalem, 17, 172
Arundel : Latimer, 88
Arundel Marbles, 887
A. (S.) on St. John's Chapel, Bedford Bow, 461
Asses, how to silence their braying, 287, 454
Assize Sermons, 249
Astucious for Astute, 249, 338
Atchin, Jacobus piece, 35, 79
A. (T. J.) on Catullus : '* Hoc ut dixit>'* &c., 469
Seals in two parts, 352
Attwell (H.) on origin of the epithet "bloody,'* 17
Clock-striking, 478
Words passing from one language to another, 417
"Auld Wife-hake," 154
Auna, as a Christian name, 448
Australian drama, 55, 497
A. (W. E. A.) on BaUads by W. T., 249
" Down with the Mug," 287
Haytianpoet, 109
Placido, Cuban poet, 149
Axon (W. E. A.) on " Butterfly's Ball," 873
" Fanatic," introduction of the wend, 225
" Fifty Years' Recollections," 455
Hervey (T. K), poem by, 175
Locke (John) and the Quakers, 266
'* Modem Account of Scotkmd," 483
** ProcU (Le) des Trois Rois," 95
B. on "Bonnie Dundee," 357
" Epitafi Giocosi," 511
Naaman the leper, 188
/3. on Richard Bentley, Master of Trinity, 849
Back (Sir James), noticed, 248
Bacon (Miss Delia)and Shakspeare's jmnt anthon^ 24€
Bacon (Francis), Baron Yemlam, portrait by Vsb
Somer, 161; and Shakspeare's pUyt, 161, 246; 850
Badge, silver, 9
BBfel^'S^'.Jriil'i'S:^) ^^^N D E X. 531 J
B. (A. E,) on miiemomc caleadarp, 3&3
Beastie-tnilk, In Scotland, 64 ^^^^|
B. (A. H.) on Cyril Touroeur, 465
r]«Aton (Mary), the Queen of SooU' attendant, 422 ^^H
•* Y»Dge MoDday^" 28
Beauchamp (£j.) on Miltou'a " L'AUegr»," 163 ^^H
Bailey fAmily of L&nc&shire, 407
VVords changing thtiir meaning, 197 ^^^H
Bi^ilcy {-J, E,) on B*iley family of Lancaahire, 40? '
Beaven (A. B. ) on Elizabeth Canning, 117 ^^^H
JiAiley'a Dictionane§, 511 I
Churchill iJ. !, M.P. for Newtown, 110 ^M
Engby family, 427
" History uf the General Election of 1S02,** 83 ^^M
Dedicatiunii, profuse, 3^1
Shirley family, 96 ^^M
Fox-huuting, 314
Swift {K.), hheriff of London, 438 ^^H
FuUer (Dr. Thomas), IOC
Wandeiforde (Sir Chriitopher), 370 ^^M
Fuller (Mr), hh " ComplamV US
" When York to Heaven," 96 ■
- Glory of their Time*," 115. 267
Becker (ID on Aristotle on dancing and muaic, 323 ^H
London compared with Antioch, 279
Beckford (William) on Southey, 3^34 ^M
Beckiogton on Sir Edward Hun^erford, 203 ^^^H
Rjuik rider, ita meamng, 357
Dede (C) on '* Divine Poenu?," 440 ^^^B
**Raritiei," 513
Epitaph in Claveriey church, 326 ^^^H
Reeves " Fubliko Devotions," lOS
Holly and mitttletoe, 509 ^^^H
Bjfciley (NrtihAD). hia DictiouixritJs*, ]m, 258, 514
Night-crow: Bittern, 76 ^^^H
BiilUe, Be-O^, kc, Buroamej., ISO, 351
Nunery rhyme, 14 ^^^H
Baily (Johnson) on an old clerical anecdote, 259
Bedeii family, 8, 331, 413 ^^H
*' Antient," a military term, 133
Beer and wine, and beer and cider, 186, 235 ^^^1
»* Defender of the Fwth,'" 264
B. (E. G.) on Latin and Greek verse, 248 ^^^1
Grewe, »\(. Grodc, 625
Bell iuBcriplions, 45, 360, 330 ^^^1
Marriftges in Lent, 495
Bell (i.) on Georgu Uolman, 131 ^^^H
Nftaman the leper, 258
BeLUra {Eenty John), fiic rimUist, 2$, 314 ^1
Symbol in fltMned gU«s, 435
BeUi, of Hatldenham, 117, 194, 814 ; coins on, 147 ; ■
Tregotae (Thomw), work*, 4y3
royal headd on, 318 ^M
Brim's piece, a S<Jotti»h custom^ 612
Benct (Arabroisf) of BaUtrode, 347 _^^M
Baliol, Bailleul, &c., eurnamei?, 136, 351
Bennett (T. 1) on Milton a '* L' Allegro," 91 ^^^1
Baliol ^John), King of Scotland, his tomb, OS
Sheridan and '*The School for HcandaV' 34 ^^H
■^ BAlUd* by W. T., 249
Beatley (Richards, Master of Trinity, hi* family, ^M
Ballantyne preai, first work, 102
319 fl
Ballooning ilLuatrated, 366
Berghe, or Bergno (C, V.), artiae, 209 ^^M
Baliac (EonoftS de) and Shelley. 106
Beroe7*l {Q, de) on BibUcal evidence, 458 ^^H
Banim (Michael), hm death, 254, 399
Book-preEaoea, 55 ^^^M
Banwell Court, Homeraet, armi^, 88. 251
Banyan *8 imitators, 397 ^^^H
Barbadoes and the Guardu of Charie« L, 265
Burning the dead, 336 ^ ^^^H
Barclay (U.) on docQinicak at Exeter. 228
CarpatHan Mountainf, 76 ^^^H
Bardaley (C, W,) on Shakjpeare'a imine, 2
Lambard's Ancient Law#, 135 ^^^H
BarUolf family of Wirmegay, 17
'* Lii}abee*8 Love Story,'' 154 ^^H
Barker (G. F. R.) on death and burial-place of King
Pafical'5 '' Provincial Lottery,*' 16(^ ^^^H
^ Stephen, 368
Percy, the tronkoiAker, 275 ^^^H
B B&rned eurname and family, 176
Qaoita, worki on, 76 ^^^|
■ Baronetcie*, unsettled, 16, 297, 410
Soofcch baronetcy, 495 ^^H
'' Barro (Marie de), granddaughter of Edward IIL, 188,
Skating literature, 379 ^^^1
263, 358
«' Situate " for mtuated, 64 ^^H
Barry (Jamea), fund aubacribed for, 4SS
Tavern iuBcription, 93 ^^^H
Barry more (Lord), an injustice done by. 4(>S
Tintem Abbey, 237 ^^H
Bar Cjinister, IS, 198, 337
''TopographiaHibemlcA,'* 64 ^^H
Barton (Dr.). hia pun, 67, 135
Ulster words and phnuN^, 93 ^^^H
Bathi in the Middle Ag««, 362
Watermarks, 357 ^^H
Wingfield (Edward Maria), 237 ^^B
Baynea (John), ** Archieolo^cal EpiaUe,'* 261, 270
" Wiadom 'a better than Money,^* 134 ^^U
B. (B,) on Kailey'a "Dictionary," 156
Betty (Master), the " Young Roaciua,** death of, ISO ^M
B. (C. E.) on Proverbs, 385
B^ique, its dcriration, 58 ^M
k B. (C, 0.) on wide use of the word " field,** 377
B. (G.) on Backford on Southey, 364 ^^^H
■ HaUtWych, Sll
B. (G. A.) on *'Make a bridge of gold,^' &c., 213 ^^H
■ "Shot," ai a termination, 149, 355
ParaUel passages, 464 ^^H
■ R (C. T:) on - When York to Heaven," ke,, 198
B^ (G. F,) on the two thieves at Calvary, 1G7 ^^^H
■ B. (C. W.) on George IYth*i aozi% 352
B, (IL) on Jonathan Edwards, of America, 29 ^^^H
■ B. (E. A.) on covered altar-nuk. 522
Epigrams from the Greek, 416 ^^^H
■ Beai«, Baitlie, kc., Burmunea, 1S6. 351
*^ Oakleigh Forest Code," 368 ^^M
■ BMCle (J.) on B«ale, BaiiUe, Ice, etirnameiv 186
B. (H. A.) on Lampedusa in 1690, 193 ^^H
■ Elizabeth and Uabef, 215
''ProWdence on the ride," &o,, 307 , ^^H
._._„
Rohwd (Madame), Memoir*, 41 1 ^^M
532
INDEX.
rindtx Svnd«B«Bt to tbt ir«tci aai
iQuorias, wfth Ko. 8i, Jan. IC. IVH
Bible, note on Psalm xc. 10, in ** The Speaker's Com-
mentary," 75; editions of the " Breeches," 198, 238,
296 ; Blow's, 248, 324, 360
Biblical evidence, 228, 274, 458
Bibliography of Utopias, 252
Bibliothecar. Chetham. on " Every man is the archi-
tect," &c., 156
Parallel passages, 6
Sarpi (Paolo), -489
bhakspeariana, 283
Swans, their musical quality, 16
'^ Topographia Hibemica," 855
Wollaston's " Religion of Nature," 316
Bideford, strange epitaph at, 25
Bigarriety, its meaning, 307, 434
BiUoD, its derivation, 449
Bingham (C. W.) on parallel passagep, 345
** Plus est en vous," 514
Biography, universal, works on, 485
Birch (W. J.) on Bunyan's compeers and predecessors,
104
Bird (T.) on two churches in one churchyard, 208
« Bird's Neat," a poem, 167, 213
Bishops, their titles, 136
Bittern and night-crow, 76, 258
B. (J. E.) on Epigram : '< A learned prelate," 326
B. (J. G.) on Rev. Stephen Clarke, 217
Sterne as a poet, 17
B. (J. H. A.) on John Tregosse, 341
B. (J. R.) on "Lives of the EngUsh Saints," 293
Singleton (Rev. Dr.), of Rugby, 209
B. (J. W.) on SheriflTs orders for execution, 487
Blackburn (W.) on Chancels placed westward, 288
Blaeu*s Atlas, 267, 415
Blair (D.) on ppiritual apparitions, 476
Llandafif (6p. of), temp, James I., 467
Paray-le-Monial pilgrimage, 446
Spanish legends, 512
Tweedledum and tweedledee, 465
" Blanchardine and Eglantine," Hamburg copy, 464
Blenkinaopp (E. L.) on ** Abuliements," 328
Christian names, 512
Dee (Dr.), his crystal, 86
** Favour," in Shakspeare, 103
Houselling cloth, 522
Jewish prayers for the dead, 297
Liddell V. Westerton, 212
Lunar rainbow, 92
March dust, 198
"Money the sinews of war," 239
*' Pilgrim's Progress," 9
Sunflower, 17
"Taking a sight," 166
Thistle, the blessed, 95
Titles, epipcopal, 137
Blood, and the pride of birth, 106
Blood (W.), " drawback " explained, 74
** Rendez-Vf.us," 255
Ribbon : Ribband, 75
Bloody, origin of the epithet, 17, 359
Bloomfield (W.) on cipher- writing, 416
Clare (John), Northamptonshire poet, 302
Blount (Edmund), heraldic painter, 209
Blount (Michael Henry) of Mapledurham, 220, 375
Blow (James), his Bible, 248, 324, 360
Blyth (A. W.) on Vrench diotionariei, 28
Blyth (H.) on rank-rideis, 98
Blyth (H. T.) on parallel p•angei^ 145
Blyth (J. N.) on "Hogmany," 617
Boar's head at Christmas 607
Boddington (R. S.) on Yinoent and Kewcombe fami-
lies, 149
Wyat and Wood families, 108
Wyatt, Browne, Tn&ell famiUesE, 87
Bohemian, misuse of the word, 866
Bohun and Bowne fiimilies, 247
Boleyn family pedigree, 246
Bolton (Lavinia Felton), Dooheia of, portrait, 13
Bonaparte (Madame Jerftme), ancestor!, 97
Bonaparte (Napoleon), scafiR>ld at Waterloo, S16
Bone (J. W.) on Shropshire wills, 474
Bones and bone-dust, from Egypt, 385, 434, 526
Bonnefoy (F.), engraver, 335
" Bonnie House of Airlie ; " Argyll and Montrose, 2S,
74, 113
Book-plates, armorial, exchanged, 169
Book prefaces, their introduction, 55
Books, notes in. See Fly-leaf jTucriptions.
Books, old better than new, 265 ; movable figures in,
287, 396, 435 ; illustrated, 444, 466, 511.
Books recently pnblished:—
Abbott's Elements of Greek Accidence, 879
Abdulla (Hakayit), Translationn, by J. T. Thomp-
son, 300
Anderson's America not Discovered by Columbai,
420
Ashby-Sterry's Tiny Travels, 219
Attwell's Table of the Aryan Langaagei, 339
Babington's Hospital of St. John, Cambridge, 199
Bacon (Francis), Baron YeruUm, Life and
Letters, 159 ; Essays, 199
Ballads and Songs of Scotland, by J. C. Murrav,
100 ^
Barot's Histoire de la Litt^rature Contemponine
en Angloterre, 420
Barrow's Mutiny of the Bounty, 100
Bossuet and his Contemporaries, 459
Brooke's Handy-Book of the Public Worship
Regulation Act, 379
Brown's Notes upon Notts, 118
Buddicom's St. Chad's Day in Lichfield, 39
Bums (Robert) Calendar, 527 ; Glenriddel MSS.,
ib.
Busk's The Yalleys of Tirol, 80
Calendar of State Papers : Foreign Series, llizs-
beth, 1569-71, 459
Camden Society : Account of the Executors of
Richard, Bi^op of London, 1303, and of
Thomas, Bishop of Exeter, 1310, 59
Case's Athenian Democracy, 20
Chappell's History of Music, 59
Chronicles and Memorials of Great Britain Kod
Ireland: Memorials of St. Dunstan, 498;
Chronicon Angliae, 1328-88, t5.
Cooper's Memoirs of Margaret, Countess of Bicb-
mond and Derby, 627
Crosthwaitc on The Last of the Derwentwaters,
420
Cure's The Message to Arohippus, 219
533
^ki receutlj published:^
D'Etrcilleft'a Lea ('! ' ; Par S»in^% WJ
Dob«OD*a Civil Sti . i^ok, 171^
Draper'fl Conflicl tv.-.v-^ i.Uigloa nad Science,
527
Fallow's Viait to ArcUbiHhop Loop, 280
Fuller (Dr. ThomasK Life, by J. E. B^ihy, 31S
Gilbert ^Mra,), Autobiogiaphy, 471*
€ir0ethe*& HermAim and Dorotbtria, JOS
GreAt Converses, 80
Greville MemoirSy iZ*J
Henid and Genealogiiat, 20
Herodotus : PhlUpoLt'B Stories io Attic Greeks 20
Hifitorictil Manuscripts CommiBiitOQ : Fourth
Report, 218
History of a Ship, 100
HoILmd (.roho)* Life, by W. Hudson, Zm
Holt's White Hose of Langley, 4Z9
'HopeWiAVs Legend a of the Missouri and MiBaia-
wppj, 100
Hore s T«rmB And Measures of L»ud, 260
How»rd'« Old Legend of St, PaulV, 3U»
Jaeox'fl Scripture Proverb*, 420
Je*ffre8on'a Book about the Table, iSO
Joumftl of the AaaociAtioo of Ireland^ 25\)
Kempia (Thomas h% Of the Imit&tion of Christ,
899
Lagondie's Lo Cheval et son Cavalierj 199
La Pluie et le Beau Temps, 199
Le»thw*iThQ Eeligion of the Christ, 419
IjQcti«&ar>^ Bible, 399
L/ett*a Koinan loapenal Profileii, 279
Letters addressed to Thomas Heoruo, M. A, IIS
Lordan on certain English Surojunes, 199
Lowder on Sacramental Cotifeniiiion, 219
Lower^s Wayaide Notiss In Scandinavia, 219
MacmiUanV Magazine, 11$
Magician, The, a Drama, 319
Mftiuoc, Eveline, &c., 39
Mauiiale Clericorum, 20
^Teuerti Letter on ihe Standards of the New
C<«lt% 219
Stillin^ton'n Latin Ekerotses on BarUaxistni S19
Milton's Paradise L'>3t, 199
Kaftk<*> ScTnTor^ic Fairy Tale««, 100
N' 1 Y Magazine^ 60
Ki rxtocka and their Associationf, 239
>i ' The, 493
P . lion of Great Yarmouth. 219
P.,^ _ _ . _ nary of Coata of Arms, 479
Parville 8 Causeries Scientifiques, 239
Fcacock''s Army List of the Roundheads and
Cavaiierr. 359
P«l (Sir liJj Historical Sketch, by Lord Dal-
]■
P< of the Shah of, 527
Pt;, , ... , .^; de* Bibliophiles Dauphinois, 239
Philiip»'s Memoira of tbe Civil War, 498
Piggott's Persia, Ancient and Modern, 179
FiJzettaa L'Aquarium, 199
Proctor's Memorials of Manchettefi 279
Quarterly Keview, 99, 379
Records of the I'a^t being Euglisbt 17^
Rhymes for the Time*, 319
Robertson's Hlitory of the Chriwlian Clmi'dr, 139
Booki recently publiahed:—
Rogers's Hcoitish Reformurji, 199
Ilowky*-^ WLtsn You Seu Me, You Know Me» 118
St. Luke's Gospel, in Anglo- Saxon, by W. W.
Skeat, 359
Sampson's History of Advortitiag, 021
Bftvile'fi Ap}iaritions : a Narrative of Facts, SO
Soribner'i Monthly, 79, 139
Shakjipeare, Illustrations of his Life, 527
Sharpens Architecture of the CisiercianSi 139
Shaw'a Clan Battle at Perth, 2^0
Simple Poems^ 199
Storr's English School Claadlc?. 19« 199, 499
Tennyson's Works, 118, 527
Thomson's SeAaoas^ 199
Thombury'ft Old and New London, 499
Tomlinaon on the Sonnet, 499
Tyler on the Philosophy of Hamlet, lilj
Walcott's Cousti lotions and Canotjs of tbe Church
of England, 19S
Waring's Ceramic Art in Remote Agti?, 52*j
Withers on the English Language Spelled a*
Pronounced, 319
Wordsworth (Dr) on the New Lectionary, 399
Wordsworth (William), Selections, 199
Wordsworth s Social Life in the English tJnlTer-
sitie^, 459
Yeatman's Introduction to Early English Hb*
tor}', 359
Booty's ghost, 608
* " ' the custom, 308, 456
Borough English, locality of 1
Bosh, its derivation, 53, 47S
Boss, its meaiUBg, 275
Both well (Sergeant). See Capt, FmncU Stewart*
Bouchier (J.) on ** Carmagnole,'* 8
Clarke's Shakespeare Coiicordanoe, 14
CorbiUon, a French game. 3SS
Cromwell, anecdotes of, 8tl
Macaulaj on Milton and S^ienser, 1^0
Mollfere (J, P. B. de), 449
^Ifrallel pa^^ag^es, 345
Scott (Sir ^Valter), 1
Bow = Bridge, 4'j7
Bower (J.) on ** Little Poems for little Readers," 110
Bowne and Bohun families, 217
Boyle (E, M.) on John Prouz, 1(jCI, 348
Boyle (G. D:) on Tickulla Momer^s Iliad, witii M3.
notes by Pope, 369
Bradford'On-Aron, it* Saxon church, 180
Bradley (Martha), of Hiuntistead Heath, 'A^
" Brag " miaifitry, 45
BrmmhaU famUy arms, 287, ^^"^
Braose family t>edigree, 3iX -15, 13o
Bcaoae (Mary de), her pan i
Brewer (E. C.) on granrl daumiif r ji KJward IiL,259
Spelling reforms, 61, 123, 143, ld3, 277
Bridge (C, A. G,) on Portuguese coin, 327
Bridgford family, 368, 522
Bright (H. A.) on portrait of Hogarth, 433
Briscoe (J. P.) on Christniaa cuatoms of Notts, 509
Haddenham church bells, 314
"British and Continental TiUes cf Honor," 23, 95,
195, 351
British Museum, Catalogue of the KeconU, Zi^;
note on the Klng^s Library^ 360
534
INDEX.
{Index Supplement to the KoCca ud
QjUfim, with 2ia K. Jan, 1$, un.
British Museum duplicates, 157
Britten (J.) on '* Lives of the English Saints," 229
Brome (William), noticed, 381
Bromley (F.) on the meaning and deri?ation of Oste-
man, 152
Brooke and Powell families, 48
Brooke (J. M. G.) on " Bonnie Dundee,'* 493
Brown (A. H.) on the pronunciation of "aches,"
526
Brown (J.) on Defender of the Faith, 435
Veto, the royal, 476
Browne family, 87
Browne (C. B.) on the pronunciation » of "aches,*'
139
Greene's " upstart crow,*' 64
Jonson (Ben), jun., Poems, 208
Junius and "The Ministerialist,*' 86
Lamb (Charles) and Hazlitt, 266
Shakspearian criticism in 1720, 285
Browne (Sir Thomas), skull of, 526
^t>wning (Robert) ''Good News from Ghent to
Aix," 17
Brus (Robert de), the "Competitor,** historical error,
348
Buchanan (George) and " Stelling*' or " SteaHng,*' 206
Buohold (Barons de), inquired after, 329
Buckley (W. E.) on "Abulyiements," 374
Aristotle on danciug and music, 492
« Butterfly's BaU," 373
Catullus : "Hoc ut dixit."- &o., 429
" Glory of their Times," 33
"Hogmanv," 517
Buda : Pest : Ofen, 16, 86
Buddha, a BuMian, 165, 257; physical meaning of
his name, 215
Bugby, or Bugbee, family, 427
"Buiit here for his envy," 7, 132, 217, 356
Bull baiting, 299, 398
Bunyan (John), "The Piljrnm's Progress," 8, 39,
49, 162 ; his parentage, 25, 40, 421 ; bis compeers
and predecessors, 104, 171 ; his gold ring, 126,
314; his imitators, 148, 213, 336, 397; his birth-
place, 286
Burbage on "Love's Labour's Lost, 3, 104
Burial in an erect position, 346
Burnet (Bp. Gilbert), MS. "History of His Own
Time," 46
Burning a pregnant woman, 127, 172
Burning the dead, 80, 336; authorities on, 184, 220
Bums (Robert), autograph, "To Terraughty on his
Birth-Day," 11, 72, 196 ; parallel passages, 31, 158 ;
and George Thomson, 407; fragmentary lines as-
cribed to 425 523
Butler (Samuel)J alchemist in "Hudibras," 35, 114;
" Hudibras" criticised, 326, 454
B. (W.) on Hall, Wych, and salt-works, 249
B. (W. E.) on Drury House, 138
B. (W. T.) on Marmion Herbert in Disraeli's "Ve-
netia," 177
Byland Abbey, Yorkshire, and neighbourhood, 148,
213,240,337
Byron fanuly Anna, 51Z
Bjrron (Cteorge Gordon), 6ih Lord, t'wo VAxmi^^n Sxi'
"The 8ieg9 of Corinth," 50, 177, ^^^^ wi^Uo«&,
158; Ida birthplace, 268, 396
C. on " Auld Robin Gray," 205
Mary, Queen of Scots, her attendants, 422, 446
'* Stealing" nj^d "Stelling," 206
C. (A.) on Liddell r. Westerton, 175
Salic law, 513
Caar-cakes, Scotch, 54
C. (A. B.) on Tunstead church, 409
Cake, therf-, thar-, &c., 54
Calcutta relic, 112
Calendars, mnemonic, 233, 853, 414
Calenturist, its meaning, 269, 433
Caligraphy, spelling of the word, 473
Calomel, its derivation, 4
Calvary, the two thieves at, 167, 238
Cambndge, St. John's Hospital, 199
Cameo, its derivation, 268, 453
Campbell (Thomas), mistakes in his poems, 206
Campkin (H.) on Mendelssohn, 136
Canning (Elizabeth), biography, 27, 75, 117, 216
" Cantab, The Aged, to his College Cap and Gown,"
151
Canterbury foundlmg, 28
Cape Town funeral customs, 5
Card games, 150, 512
Cardan wells in Scotland, 476
Cariisle, the Shaddongate at, 275, 417
Caroline (Queen), and the coronation of George IV.,
225, 274
Carp introduced into England, 105, 214
Carpathian mountains, works on, 76
Carr s- Carse in field-names, 71, 115
Carvings, grotesque mediaeval, 847, 895
Cashel, M.P. in 1801, 88
Cathedrals and Oliver Cromwell, 256
Catullus : " Hoc ut dixit," &o., 396, 429, 469
Cave (Miss Jane), her occupation, 512
C. (C. D.) on " Conmderations on the Marriage," kc,
307
Cecil (Rev. Richard), noticed, 461
C. (E. F. D.) on "Henoughe in Atb," 488
Celto-Scotus on Robertson family, 288
Centenarianism, ultra, 122, 182, 245
Cerevisia, its derivation, 33, 296
C. (G. A.) on double Christian names, 477
Voltaire and Rousseau, 409
C. (H.) on American eulogy on women, 43 S .
" Quid hoc ad Iphycli boves," 48
Chalgrave registers, co. Beds, curious entry, 225
Chance (F.) on the derivation of "calomel," 4
Marrot, its meaning, 510
Morgue : Book of the Maccabees, 891
Robertson family, 127
Ultra-centenarianism, 182
Word-formation, 216
Yeux, its derivation, 101, 237, 457
Chancels placed westwards, 288, 352, 479
Channel Islands, their names, 240
Chap-book literature, 352
Chaplains, royal, 849
Chapman (George), "Baasy d'Ambous" Acti. ic. 1,
487
V CStA.vai%.Ti (,S . K.\ on Swale family, 78
\Ci\».vV^^'!^ ^ «^'' K\jSi^^^ii^^Ja).<a«.^^" 482
Chappell <W.) on **l>own with the M«g/' 333
''God BAve th« King," 105
'* Like to the djunauk row,'* &«., 373
rles the £oH Duke of Burgundy, h'm wive?, 320
dea I., M a poet, 93, 11(5 ; his guards^ 265 ; fiUver
' .020,310
J (R. 8.) OE the titles of Alexandet II, 36
A^ in Welsh nftmei^, 267
Borough English, i$6
Boah, its derivation, 53
Cameo, its deriv»tioi}, 453
! CeroTtiia, its denvatioo, 83
Eau de Tie; ita etymology, 2S^
FyemarteQi ite meanlog, 392
Gocpatric genealogy, i 1 9
Griffixihoofe, its etymology, 33 J7
Hall: Wych, 311
Leoline : Chriitabelj 98
I.UCUB, iti derivatiun, 272
Hinickf its derivatioo, 235
Pan : Pana^td, 17S
Rowan>tre«^ 181
St. Verdiana, 34
Sboddoogate, Its etymology, 417
I Shakjpeare s name^ 405
I Slimk«peadJUiA» 224, 2$2
Vehicles, their nomenclature, 235
Zinian Street, Reading, 53
Chatham (Earl of) and Bailey a ** Dictionary/' 156, 258
Chattan, clan, motto, 140, 213, 358, 437
Ch&ttock (C.) on the name Alesidf 395
Field : Feld, 273
*' God nave the mark,** 437
Jewi in England^ 12
PatZLBwiok yew ^ trees J 455
Pan: Panfield, 178
Pastorini, projdiecies of, 77
'* Pot to buck,'* 270
Sbaddongate, its etymology^ 275
Sword and rapier, 447
pticer difficulties; '* Kike," 41, 110, 197; "In
4tcleye,*' 407 ; " Tollen ihriea." ih.
Qoer (Geoffrey), Urry's edit,, 381
Chaucer (Robert ^e), noticed, 146
^, (H. B») on single eye-glasses, 50
Mary of Butiermere, 114
, (H. D.) on Cowper : Troojier, 276
Situate, for situated, 54
[Cheece ^3ir Henry), the iUtuary, 377
k, Lewia Buildings^ 26fl
i Botanic GardeuF, 4t>3
on {W, W.) on the Flying Dvitchraan, 5
(ter, arms of the see of, 32
I (H, C) on snetizing supers titionji 4
nney Cleaner, i,*-,, Sweep, 40«)
some works on, 109 ; cemeteries Is, 3S4
Ateldroog on General Fox and Charles James Fox,
231
.„..- , T. T, A „.. i v^r\ of Pembroke, 207
name, 98
..hhvtian namca : IMaicr, SS ; Ham, a mAn't, 73,
478 ; Ultima, S\K 452 ; Lcolitje and Chmt»b«l« &8 ;
Giv«y. 222, 850, 481 ; AIvbU, 227, Si^5, 45<S ; double,
^^4 i'-A £1^^, 3M, ilT; in J^Attiiogtoix reg^Ur^
237: Aminda and Violetta, ihr, changed, 248, 295,
364 ; Violante, &c., 269; carious ft^minine, 305, 376,
437i 512 ; Auna, 448; Anne, a man^a name, 47S;
Helcngenwagb, 4S8
Cbriatie (H,) on asrenteentb-century tokens, 269, 363
Christie (R. C) on the Long Parliament, 521
Christie (Wm. Dougal), iLA., C.B., death of, 100
Chriatmns eontnytta, 501
Chriatmas custom of Notta, 500
Christmas Day in Holland in 1824, £05 ; boar*t head
at St. John^s Gate, Clerkenwell, 507
Chriatmaa decoratiomi, 509
Christmas eve, crows t&ken to chorch on, 509
Christmas miracle play (OadbrdshireK 503
Chri^tmaa muu:mer« in DorBetshire, oOb
ChTiBtmas serin onir, 502
Christy colleclions. inscribed patent, 27, 74
Char«h armour, 388, 494
Chorch plate, its consecration, 221
Churches, two in one churchy an J, 208» 291, 624 ;
communion-table in the nave, 2S8» 397 ; chancels
placed westward, 283, 352, 470
Churchill (Jobn\ M.P, for Newtown, 3679, 110, 172
Chnrehing of Women, strange use of the serrioe for,
125
Cicero, J5/>. adAU. iv, 15, *' Tarn Tcrom,** 2«, 135
Cidh on " Quid hoc ad Iphycli bove«,'* 48
** Cimourdain in the French Assembly," 249
(Un (Lo Chevalier an) on the Glaatonbury Thorn, 517
Cipher- writing, its antiquity, 305 ; it« modern use, 416
Ci^ilis on chancels placed westward, 352
GinghaiD, its deri ration, 366
C, iJ,H.) on the bell and the grave, 84
Clacbnacudden itone, 14D, 214, 451
Clare (John), Northfunptonshire poet, letter and threft
»onoets, 302
Clarke family, 67
Clarke (Mrs. Cowden), Concordance to Shakeapoare,
omiasiong, 14, 187 ^
Clarke (M.) on the derivation of "bofth." 478
Oliver (Mother), 254
Clarke (Rev. Stephen), sermons, 77, 116 ; apprentice*
ship, 217
Clarry on Breeches Bible, 296
Cromwell and the cathedral*, 256
*' Like '* as a conjunction, 114
"Mars his sword," 55
Ckymore, date of an old. 169, 256, 417
Cleeves (Dukes of)» pedigree and arm**, 329
Cleghorn (G.) on Soots GreyF, 34 S
Clergy, parental, in the Patent lloll^, 346 : early
Evangelical, in London, 461
Clerical tit;^ 144
Clifford (Sir Lewia), beqaetU in hia fiifl, 514
Clifton (G. R) on Astdze sermons, 249
Clk. on Sir Gerard Dfflete, 255
Viccars (John^ Oriental scholar, 226
Clock striking, 26S, 432, 478
Clogatoun family, 57, 355
Cloogh {J. L ) on Adam's fiwt wife, 132
Devooshire fulk-lore, 184
Clowtes: wayneclowtc-'j : i>logh dowtcn, 10
C. (ld.i on MoutaA(?n<a« ^«fc^*, Ti**
,MiJ^
^^2ij
536
INDEX.
{Tiidczfiapplement to the Notei t
Qneriei, with No. 95. Jan. is, ic
Coins : La maille, 57 ; on church bell?, 1 47 ; Roman,
168, 256 ; Roman imperial profiles on, 279 ; silver,
of Charles I., 320, 340 ; Portuguese brass, 827, 456 ;
family records on, 427
Col- in colfox, &c., 77, 179
Cole (Emily) on works by Mrs. Serres, 216
Coleman (E. H.) on London companies, 198
Monsieur and Madame, 205
Post-OflBce money orders, 452
Selkirk pie, 511
"Temple," the brig, 96
Coleridge (Sara), her simile, 68
Collaton Church, Devon, dial inscription, 25
CoUingwood (Cuthbert), Lord, his relatives, 48, 96,
177, 377
Collins (Mortimer) on the English Aristophanes, 484
Catullus, " Hoc ut dixit," &c., 396, 469
Christian names, double, 271
Gooch (Mrs.), 1788, 488
Hermit of Red-Coat's Green, 497
Horace, Sat. i. 3, 456
" John Jasper's Secret,'* 475 «
Spelling reforms, 231, 260
Collyer (R.) on an American eulogy on women, 439
Colman (George), fugitive pieces, 131 ; "A Reckoning
with Time," 131, 277
Columbus (Christopher), death and burial-place, 151 ;
his arms, ib.
Comet, Kirch's, of 1680 (?), 66 ; of 1539, 77
Commas, inverted, their use, 37, 56, 97, 116, 337
Communion table in the church nave, 288, 397
Compton (Lord A.) on Songs in "Rokeby," 195
Condorup, Earl of Cornwall, his arms, 268
Coningsby (Earl), his family, 229
Cook (K.) on English translations, 287
Cook (W. B.) on Ballantyne press, 102
Cooke (C.) on SerreP, &c., 3G4, 457
Cooke (J. H.) Arabroise Benet of Bulstrode, 347
Chnrchep, two in one churchyard, 524
Corbillon, a French game, 388
Comub. on American States, 82
By land Abbey, 213
London fortificationp, drawings, 188
Portrait of a lady, 488
Wanton (Col. Valentine^ 110
Weir (Major), Edinburgh magician, 188
Comwallis (Charles^, Marquis of, and Lord Wellesley,
Coroner, its derivation, 59
Coronerships of England, private, 129, 191
Corpses seized for. debt, 15, 217, 337; entombed in
walls, 185, 23 i, 2PS, 307, 398. 457
Corsat (Philippe), Swiss b.irber-poet, 386*
Cottell (W. H.) on Kirkstall Abbey, Yorks., 28
" Court Convert." See Anmymous W<yrk8.
Courtney (W. P.) on Skating Literature, 318
Cowper (William), his name rhymed with trooper, 16,
Cox (J. C.) on Bunyan's imitators, 148
Corpses seized for debt, 217
Haddenham church bells, 1 04
Hogmnny, its etymology, 517
Jiwfc/ces' wages, 228
Templars and HospitaUem, 17^
Ck>x (T.) on Halifax Grammar School, 40^
C. (R.) on Archer family of Worcestershire, 21
"Otherwhiles," 389
Crack, its meaning and derivation, 98
Cranfield (Edward), his biography, 307
Craw (W. O.) on an old song, 328
Cremation. See Bui*ning the dead.
Crescent, on silver badge, 9
Coins, family records on, 427
Maille, the coin, 57
Notee in books, 46
Vehicles, their nomenclature, 148
Cricket, early notices of the game, 121 ; ita name,
Crofton (H. T.) on Gipsy names, 349
Crofton (T.) on Gipsy marriage announcement, 15;
Cromwell (Oliver), and the almanack, 6Sj 155;
the Cathedrals, 256 ; anecdotes of, 86 ; fate of
body, 205, 240, 466 '
Crossley (J.) on " Comes Facundus in Via," 384
Motley (J. L.) and Scioppius, 445
Crowns worn by the Kings of England, 355
Crows taken to church at Christmas, 509
Crozier (J. A.) on Boleyn family, 246
Crusade, the Second, list of knights, 129
C. (S.) on Dr. Donne, poem, 85
Cudworth (Rev. Ralph), D.D., 513
Cumberland (the pseudo-Princess). See Serres.
Cuper's Gardens, 349, 394
Curio, on Lord Chief Baron Wandesford, 327
Cust (H.) on Pury, or Purey family, 149
C. (W. A.) on Byron's "Siege of c5orintb," 50
Cowper: Trooper, 16
Howe (Lord), lines on his great victory, 146
** Hudibras," astrologer in, 35
Irish bull, 25
Letter, curious treasonable, 6
" Living one's life over again," 4
Montaigne's Essays, 276
Parallel passages, 31, 464
" Scottish Addison," 325
Staines (Alderman Sir Wm.), 12 J
"Sword wearing out the scabbard," 100
Walker's " Pronouncing Dictionary," 252
" Wine to the poet," &c., 366
C. (W. B.) on Buda: Pesth: Ofen, 16
Cyril on Locke (John) and the Quakers, ^,'>0
Cywrm on a ghost story, 507
Czar, its derivation, 36, 55, 72, 96, 175
Czarish Majesty, Empress of Russia, so styled, 240
D
Dagger-cheap ==Dirt-cheap, 9
Danish National Theatre, 219
Dante (Alighieri) and his translators, 364, 43*1, .% 12
Darwin (Erasmus), noticed in the Monthly Magazi
483
Davenant (Sir William), lines attributed to him, 3
376
Davies (Bp. Richard), D.D., noticed, 133, 19S, 'i'.l
Davies (E. C.) on willow-pattern plate, 69
Davies (T. L. O.) on Dagger cheap =Dirt-cheap, 1>
Mars his sword, 178
Party, in the sense of a person, 520
kT>wj\% i^.>) ^Tk.'^\«Ji«l=Pod of peas, 69
\ TiwSa Vj ^'S^wKsi^ ,\si& k&5&r3^xsc^^ \^<^ , l^^y 39 7
guifblk words, 22a
Botue of Stimrt, 367
on Aristoil« on fUncing ft&d muaic, -0^1
in^'tun luodAJf 308
iifrly, 388
innemoitic ciUendAiB^ £33^ 41 i
) im Ameripifi iitatee, 272
(Rev, Ralph), 513
i«3ge Mogaziae, 35
lity from, 283
%. lOS 255
(.profuse. 831
ahn), hia crystal, 8<J, 130, 218, 376
tbti FAith, Mtumptioii of tfao till«^ 206,
I fmnily, 514
^•lier). his sex, 160. 200
(ThomAs), Gough*s fate, li», 75 : ;vtid
luUortaere, 47, 114, 175
WintoM earldom, 129, 170
Hogiir), Ills parentage, 230
t*f Afui^, 283
er ^Eoirlb of), hj int^rmenU, 486
|er (Jatnet), 3rd Karl of, bia teauuiui and
UbliAel TLoumin
92
Arclideacon^ iaacrip-
r, 'lib
busy biabop, ItJd
M/mwait iSib Eurl of, Barnamed De
> tite^ 9ftme«, 40^
Ic-loro, 184
332
) on fUL epigTRtz), 25&
iback," 138
an namot^ 237
; itieU; 435
848
rivatioii, 475
a), burial pbioe^ 455
I place name*, 250
|ei Jeftenii>ij D«vi*» hiB family, 397
~l cluirchw in othj ctlu^ob7at^d, 524
I Chaucer not*^ 407
le-pl- ' ' ' , 13G
; D« \1llier«, 228
. itt wbtoli be wrnte " Pick-
i; MS. of '*0«r Mutual Friend/'
iMa "BatUeof Life/* 16i»
I Of«n ; Pwth, U
ir»5
. .^■' "■' f'^
JO
■..L«, -vinl gif,. . and
234, 3yij» i-:v , '^ TancT^/' liook ti
U7
Dixon (J.) on wormln^^ dug*^ LM
Dijtoti (J. Hj 00 An Aiiitjtcan t*.«*y on ivooovn, 147
**Anti«nt/' 133
I'iock -striking, 432
Cortat (PhiVi-»-'. ';v,;
Cowper: 'I : ;
Gate: Sbo _ r
" God save ib« Kiug/' 1(15
Hanging and resuKuitaiiuo, 158
St. JamQi*s CbafM}!, 406
" Taking a Bight,*' 255
YaUombroBian nun, 95
Dixon (R. W.) on unautbori^ed arms, 187
D. (J. a) on " Lord EUerie," 247
D. (L.) on **Oue man^s meat," 4.c«, (58
D. (M.) on Cbriatian name obRng«J, 248
Dodd (Dr, William), biography, 14
Dog^ collie or Sootcb Bhepberd'«, 77| 179 :
fox, m
Do(r«^ inodncAa in, 150, 212
DominicaU, a church tax, 228, 280, 293, 317
Donne (Dr. JohnX " Abeence," a poem, S5, li>6
Dur»t}t8bire Christmas mummers, 505
Drach (S. M.) on Rev, Mr. Hontingtou, 512
Dragoons^ 2nd Royal, baJge, 287, Sill; .ihdr grey
homes, 348, 8£«5
Drake (Sir FranaiB), arms of, 232. 371, 41i>
Drakd (H, H*) on amm of Sir Fmndi Drake, 232.
371, 419
Dramas 8Uggo«ted by gaming, 1 i
*' Drawback " explamtd, 74
Drayton (ChrUtophiJfK line*, ^* To an AttUior/^ 148
Druid, its poetii ' ,% 7^ «
* * Drumclog, " L i 67, 2 i 0
Dmry House, L.^-^ ..„^c, Barbican, 46, 75, 133
Drury Lane, '* Fmato Hotice *' in, 35
D. (8. M.) on a Jew'a will, 78
Dublin, it« tarem^, 168
Dudley (Anguatine) of Barnewdl, 44fl
Dunkin (E.) on Ji^remiaJi IT .^5
Dunkiu (E. H. W,) un Sir r« Gay, 4S9
Duua ScotUft, oolupboD to K\>,r, .^u^r.iabeta,'^ 39
Dtirer (Albert), *'Tbc Knight, Death, and the D«?il/*
115
Durham Cathedral, relics of m&diicTal intemonti^
\m, 200
K. on Buddha a Kuasian, 257
Comet of 153l», 77 *
Detier, as a Chrietian nasnei 88
Heraldio query, 4S
India^ Portuguese grants b, 428
Lampednsa in \^U\, 11^3
*' Opus de Emendattone Tcmpomm,^* i ^^
Saokara, Marbatta Bnihman, 121«
£a«tniinJter, 361^, 413
Kau de vie, its eUriHiloirv. JS5, 404
E. (C. W,| on M U1 critt«i»ed, 395
PuAtOffiCe i .►i
Ed* on Chritflmas cukUil^U, 5 j1
French (lag, %%K
VA
1^
638
INDEX.
{Index SupplffliflDt to the Ko{e«m4
Qaeries. with No. 59, Jau. Itf, 1:!<7&
Ed. on nursery tales, 424
** Borneo and Juliet " in Spain, 863
St. Martin's Summer, 881
St. Michael and St. George, 241
Sbakspeare Prize Essay, 405
Sheridan (R. B.) and Suckling, 244
Whistlers, the seven, 264
E. (D. C.) on Bedell family, 418
Braose family pedigree, 30
Braose (Mary de), her parentage, 328
Bunyan*8 birthplace, 286
Chalgrave parish registers, 225
Christian names, double, 477
De Clere and Braose families, 168
"Glory of their Times," 83
Kideham Bridge, 409
Samsell by Harlington, 513
Totnes and Badnor baronies, 308
Totnes (Johel de), 268
Wooton registers, co. Beds, 186
Edgar family of Scotland, 136
" Edinburgh Review," Jeffrey's salary as editor, 460
E Duobus on parallel passages, 167
Edward III., his grand-daughter Marie de Barre, 188,
263, 358
Edward VI., his liturgies, 228
Edwards family of America, 29, 54, 393
Edwards (F. A.) on Africa, a sea-port town, 56
Banioi (Michael), 399
"Bonnie Dundee," 154
Byron's birthplace, 396
Mary of Buttermere, 175
• Roland (Madame), autobiography, 255
Edwards (W. B.) on Edwards family, 54
Eels, a stick of, 52
Eff. on the meaning of bigarriety, 434
Eglinton peerage, 379
E. (H. T.) on dominicals at Exeter, 293
Jew's will, 38
E. (J. W.) on rhyming jjroverbs, 145
Tenny son's " Miller's Daughter," 13
E. (K. P. D.) on "Battle of the Nile," 518
Burning of a pregnant woman, 173
Byron's " Siege of ^Corinth," 51
Cromwell and the almanack, G8
Locomotive in New York, the first, 1C6
Pan : Pan field, i)
Printers' errors, 120
St. Verdiana, 34
Sconce, its etymology, 291
Wentworth (Sir Thomas), 213
ElbCton, or HelbOton, name of a hill, 249
Eldritch, his longevity, 183
Election of 1802, History of the General, 88
Elizabeth and Isabel, 166, 216, 218, 236
Elizabeth (Queen) defended by Puttenham, 42
Ellcee on John Marj^les and Paxton, 433
Town's hall for Town hall, 258
Ellis (A. S.) on Sir Gerard Ufflete, 412
Ellis (G.) on fireworks from inflammable air, 848
Hyde Park, Cheesecake House in, 467
Post-Office orders in 1791, 269
Rahel and Rachel, 133
Elawick on the communion-table, ^07
Elton (E) on Paul Jones's action, ^48, 4^%
Elwes (D. C.) on Bnnj^n^e parentage, 25
De Cobham : de Kos : de Braose, 236
E/x/3t on geographical error, 485
" Why," as an expletive, 213
England, its population about 1674, 37; a "Re
tion" of, circa 1500, 104, 214; ite coastline, 21
crowns worn by its kings, 355
English and Icelandic words compared, 443
English surnames, 157, 199
English translations, 287, 334
Engraving, an old, 209
Engravings, two old, 47, 136, 268, 358
Epigrams :—
A learned prelate of this land, 826
Beards, 445
Callimachus, " The Chace," 6
Commons, their enclosers, 188, 259
Death makes all equal, 445
Feemina fronte patet, 260
Firm and erect the Caledonian stood, 227, ul5
Froude informs the Scottish youth, 1 00
Gold and Clay, 445
Hie liber est^ 227, 296, 316, 837
Lumine Aeon dextro, 488
Negro, 445
Old man, 445
Physician, 445 *
Statue of Victory at Rome, 445
Tears, 445
To St. Paul's or to Lambeth, 867, 400
Trouble, useless, 445
Episcopal query, 148, 213
Episcopal titles, 136
"EpitafiGiocosi," 511
Epitaphs:—
Bradshaw (Thomas), in All Saints' churchysr
Maidstone, 895
Clarke (Capt. Henry), in Bideford churchyard, i
Clay (Thomas), at North Winfield. 217, 337
" Come, Let Us Go See Mans," 326
Fisherman, in Hythe churchyard, 406
Gipsies, in Beighton churchyard, 76 ; in Cit
cart Churchyard, 481
Gunn (Walter), at Northallerton, 400
Hobson (Thomas), 45
Jonas (Jacob), in Swansea churchyard, 406
Kellinberger (J. B.), at Salzburg, 125
Lawrence family, in St. Cross church, Winton, 25
Max (Edmond) " an his Mary," 259
" Of all the creatures w'** God," &c., in Almond
bury church,* 805
" Reader, what needes a Panegy ricks skill," 4&
Ripley (Hugh), in Ripon Cathedral, 366
Townsend (Joseph), pilot of the Ganges, 112
** When no one gave the cordial draught," 337
Epsom, bells of St. Martin, 45
E. (R.) on '* Quarter pence," 448
Erasmus, Scotus in his " Morife Encomium," 150, 2'
Erem. on Dante and his translators, 864, 615
"Little Monitor," &c, 94
Parallel passages, 346
Shakspeariana, 203
^V^/\\i\\«AenameF, 621
\
lOidtfx Sapp1ein<T»t to the Note* hadi
gmcrica, viih N«. »j. Jaa, It. I^TIl /
INDEX.
539
QiBe Street^ iU deriration, 848, 415, 473
' Eveljn (lohn), hia Christmiu} DaySj 501
E. (W.) on ficld-lore, 115
* Oakleigh Forest Code," 524
^ Excurogent := Smart, fine, 5
«ter biahopric, 304. 42f5
►.glasflCRj single, 50, 115, 216
» (M. Van) on Parii priiiODJi, 15S
Ejston (C. J.) on Fjndern monnmeDti 114
I
Fa«» name of a Gipty tribe, 14
Fakoner (T.) on the tomb of Columbus 152
Falconet (Pierre\ artiifc, 8, 54, 11 G
Fallow (T. M.) on abbreviated place'names, 330
Fan manufkcturerii, 266
Fanatic, introduction of the word, 225
Fanshawe (Catiierine), poem pnvatelj printed, 43
Faroe lalandi, 158
Faatolf (John), grant of Veiret to, 1 46
Faulkje*Watling (C.) on abbreviated ptace-nftmef}, 329
"Shot '' aa a termination, 235
Favour* Hard-favoured, «4, 103, 155
Fa ws = Broom- vendors, 14
F. (C. T,) on Sleight : Slade. 472
F. (O.) on Clachnacudden atone, 149
Indian marriage cue torn, 249
»' That beats Akebo," 157
"YoxDianie;' 168
Federer (C.) on Rev. Stephen Clarke, 77
Engltth tamamep, 157
Feijoo (B.), curioeities de8cril>ed by, 447
Feist (BL M.) on Blouats of Maple Durham, 375
Fell (Elizabeth), poetess, 329
Felton, West, Woolston well at, 17, 157
Fenneli (H. J.) on Hermit of Rod-Coat*a Green, 423
FcntoD (LavinLa), Ducbess of Bolton, portrait, 13
Feodary (John Pey), Salop priaoner, 413
Fergnason (A,) on Blaeu'a Atlas, 267
Gipsy Christiaii DAmes and tombs, 481
Party, in the sense of & persoii, 346
Tied ^ Bound, 326
F.KB.T, in the Savoy arms, 315
F. (F. D.) onBlow^a Bible, 248
Eye-glasaes, single, 5i)
Kjiockera mulHed with gloves, 428
F. (F. J.) on ''A lone rornmoa," 467
" Blanchardine and Eglantine," 464
ShakBpeariana, 64
Sircvl, a proYlncialbm, 174
Uny's edit of Chauoor, 381
Victoria aa a eumanie, 285
F. (H.j on Mn. Elizabeth Montagu's portrait, 28
Field lore, Tl, U5, 25^
" Field" apelt '* ffeld/' 207| 278 ; extended use of the
word, 877, 420
Field 40.) on Bobun and Bowse families, 247
Finn (A.) on Woltey and the living of Lydd, 1 18
Fire, purgation by» 24
Firaworlu from iDrtajaraable air, 348
Fisher {J.) on Sir Christopher Wandeafordo, 371
What is a i^ound 1 435
Fish wick (H.) on pedigree-tradng, 39
Woodcut, earlieat dated, 49
FitEAhuifl and StewartJ>, 482
Fitzgerald (D.) on the inenniDgs of boi«, 27'!
Cerevisia, its etymology, 2y6
Folk-lore of the thorn, 3
Fitz Geralds of Castle Ishin and ClenHt»h, 232
Fitzhopkinn on Macanlay : St>enser, 44
Fitz Reginald on Mary of Buttermere, 47
F. (J. T.) on ** Mostar de velifl," 488
Sconce, mean In ga and derivation, 206| 353
Sheet-anchor = Shoot-anchor, 225
Simeon of Durham, 395
Symbol in atoincd glasa, 334
\Vord8i in Ripon willa, 388
F. (J. W.) on Scotch baronetcy, 288
F. (L.) on London fortifications^ 215
Flash, a field name, 253, 254
Fleming (J» W.) on Waterloo and PenLaaular medals, 1 J
Fleming (Mary), attendant of the Queen of Scots, 422
Flemings at Norwich in 1611, 512
Flemish pedigree, 387
Fletcher family of Saltoun, 228
Fletcher (Richard), Biebop of Woroetter, 228, 260,
293, 355
Flenr de lys : Flower de luce. 14
Flodden, battle of, Scots kiUed at, 125
Flogging, in schoob, 78 ; in the Parliamen«itfy Army,
86
** Flower and the Leaf," tta date, 44
Floyd (W.) on Shakspoare, Chaucer, Fastolf, 14f3
" Flying Dutchman,* 5
Fly-leaf inscriptions, 46, 167, 214
F. (M. H.) on covered altar-rails, 622
Foley family, 262
Folk-Lore : — *
Baim'a piece, 512
Bell and the grave, 84
Christmaa decorations, 509
Consumption oared, 1S4
Cow dipping her caif, 84
Devonshire, 184
EvUeyo, 93
Fire, purgation by, 24
German, Booth, 300
Hare, folk-lore oonoeming the, 1 4
Hawthorn. See Tk(^n.
Hydrophobia prevented, 150, 212
Ladies and lionesses, 306
March dust, 74. 198
Rivera sprinkled with flowers, 35
Sneezing and blewnng, 4, 193, 353, 396, li
Star dogging the moon, 84
Thorn and May day, 3
Thunder, 184
Weather sayings, 74, 84, 184, 198
Whlstlert, the seven, 264
Witchcrmft in Sootl^d, 83
Worming for canine rabies, 150, 212
Yorkshire fiahermen, 1S4
Forbea (Arthur) of Bruac, 308
" For to '* as used by Shakspeare, 405, 484
FoBter (F* W.) on Skating Literature, 107
** Topsy-turvy," 478
Foater (P. Le Neve) on Tooth «nd egg metal. 255
Fowke (V, de 8.) on Marmion Herbert in ** Venetbfc,*
87
540
INDEX.
{ladex BttMlemcnt to the Hotm ud
QaaElcs, with Mo. M, Jan. Ifi. U79.
Fowler (J. A.) on ** Relation of England/* 214
Sandwich Islands, 110
Fox (Charles James), General Fox on, 201, 281 ; his
deaf and dumb son, 232, 415, 478
Fox (General C.) on Charles James Fox and Holland
House, 201, 231
Foxall (S.) on lunar rainbow, 92
Flays on " play," 14
Fox-hunting in the eighteenth century, 248, 314
Fransham (Isaac) of Norwich, 37
Fransham (John), note-books, 37
Fraser ( ) of Bray, his examination, 344
Freemasonry and the acacia, 157
Freere (G. £.) on ants laying up com, 494
French dictionaries, 28
French flag, 384
French re&gees in Ireland, 269
French vulgarisms, 285
" Fruitless Enquiry," a tale, 365
Fry (F.) on editions of the Breeches Bible, 296
Fry (Mr.), "Ye King's coal-porter," 110
Frye (Thomas), engravings, 17
F. (T.) on Latin and Greek verse, 838
Fuller (Dr. Thomas) and Dr. South, 106 ; Life of, by
J. E. Bailey, 318 : bibliography of his works, 521
Fuller (Mr. J, his ** Comphdnt," a poem, 128
Fuller (Robert), his burial, temp. Henry VIII., 229
Funeral customs at Cape Town, 5
Furley (R.) on capital of Kent, 331
Fumivall (F. J.) on <' As sound as a trout," 224
Jesus, MS. contraction for, 265
« Like " as a conjunction, 97
Percy Ballads, 305, 375
Ragman's roll, or rewe, 846
F. (W.) on Clogstoun family, 355
F. (W. G. D.) on Fletcher of Saltoun, 228
F. (W. M.) on two churches in one churchyard, 292
Fyemarten, its meaning, 248, 260, 800, 892
Fyndern monument in Childrey church, 68, 114
Fynmore (R. J.) on James Pierce, 1726, 347
G
G. (A.) on "Academic Errors," 156
" Court Convert," 495
"Cry of Nature," 496
"Fifty Years' Recollections," 455
" King Coal's Lev^e," 174
Sayers (James), caricaturist, 478
Skating Literature, 156
« Walk in Shetland," 69
Gabb (Rev. Thomas), his tracts, 249, 333, 399, 438
Gale = a Mino, 368
Gale (Theophilus), noticed, 341
Games with cards, 150, 512
Gaming, dramas suggested by, 1 4
Gardyne (A.) on Bunyan's " Pilgrim's Progress,'* 162
"God and the King," 59
Garwood (G.) on grants of nobility, 62
Gas, its early manufacture, 400
Gascoync family, 367
Gate, a provincialism, 406, 496
Gausseron (H.) on the derivation of cameo, 454
"Carmagnole," 169
Marria^ of the Adriatic and the Doge, 454
Moivdear and Madame, 413
Gausseron (H.) on Paris pritonfl, 225
Solidarity, its deriyation, 75
Sous, its pronunciation, 415
Surrey provindalisms, 812
Vehicles, their nomenclature, 898
Gay (Sir Peter Rivers), Bart., 489
G. (C. S.) on Surrey provincialisms, 812
G. (D.) on Jewish prayers for the dead, 297
Genealogies, their inaccurate compilers, 232
Gent (Thomas), of York, printer, 217
Geographical error, 485
Geographical query, 808, 859, 487, 478
Geometrical rdTorm, 288
Geoige IV., sons of, 267, 852
German emigrants in the fourteenth century, 147
G. (G. L.) on Pentecost as a name, 78
Ghazeepore (Bengal), blue flower found at, 208
Ghost stories, 507
G. (H. S.) on Edmund Blount, heraldic
209
Dudley (Augustine) of BameweU, 446
Gate, a provincialism, 496
Littleton family, 450 •
Quarterings, sixteen, 235
Staines (Sir Wm.), alderman, 194
Gibbe (H. H.) on "Kike," in Chaucer, 41, 197
Gibson (J.) on Bums and G«orge Thomson, 407
Gingham, its derivation, 866, 418
Gipsies buried in consecrated ground, 76
Gipsy marriage announcements, 109, 155
Gipsy names, 27, 222, 294, 349, 421, 481
"Gipsy Queen," its composer, 110, 194
Gipsy tombs, 76, 481
Giraldus Cambrensis, liis " Topographia Hibenucs,"
54, 855
G. (J.) on Roman coin, 168
G. (J. D.) on (Erasmus) Darwin and (Matthew) Tin-
dall, 483
Glastonbury thorn, 349, 880, 516
Gleghom (G.) on Marlborough family picture, 4S
Glenullin, in Lochiel's " Warning," 287, 475
Grobet (Pierre-C^saire-Joseph), noticed, 307, 451
"God and the King," 9, 59
" God save the King," not French, 165, 254
Godwin (Dr. Francis), Bp. of Hereford, and "Do-
mingo Gonsales," 209
God wit, its derivation, 117
Gog-Magog Hills, their tradition, 510
« Golden Medley," quoted, 285
Grolden Rose blessed by the Pope, 120
Golding (C.) on Archer family, 94
Herring counting, 215
"Osteman," its meaning, 153
Gomme (G. L.) on Disraeli's " Tancred," 268
Princes of the blood royal, 77
Tablets, memorial, 524
Works suggested by authors, 385
Gooch (Mrs.), 1788, 488
Gorge (Sir Arthur), reference in a letter to, 209
Gort (Viscount) on Osborne family, 187
Gospatric genealogy, 87, 175, 419
Gough (Charles), his fate, 10, 75
Gower (G. L.) on'christened at sixty-nine, 466
Gowy ( ), engraver, 89
G, (R.) on Gowy, engraver, 89
1 n4«t ^uralfm^nl to tlw ^e>im and
(eueiiea, iritU Xu, U> Jul 10, 1V9.
INDEX.
541
*
Grahftm (Jatii««)» Viscouui Dundee, Im Jc^Mb^ 5, 154|
3rt7, 437 ; bis d«soeiicUota* 493
Gmntham (G. P.) oa '* One oaly Kid,** 45$
Grftj (ThomM), pnrftllel pA«Mge«« 6i, lOlS, U5, 345
Gnzebrook (U. 8.) on Fo]«y mnoily, 262
Smyth (M.) oif Hnx^noae C'Oll^ge^ 64
Gre&r ^Miu Catherine), an Amenciui eenteDAriAii,
123
Groek tnotto on a sign-board, 1 7
Greek verae, medieval nnd oaodcm, 248^ 28i>« 337j
369, 389, 449
Greene (Robert), hi« ** upstart crow/* 64
Of«enfi«ld (B. W.) on Zmzan familj, 613
Zinsan Street, Reading, £3
Greexutreet (J.) on Aid of anno 34 Edward L^ 31
Dering Roll of Aniii. 283
Peter the Great at Godalaung, 125
Roll of Northern Armfl, 342, 442
Greer (HO on Blows Bible, 224
Grewe = Greek, 204, 25i>, 274, 355, 525
Greyhound, its derivation, 274, 355
Greyiteil on " Bonnie Dundee," 437
Te^ how made about 1G60, 57
Grienona of Dublin, printers, 468
Griffinboofe, origin of the namo^ 240^ 335, 397
Grunpe, a game at eardfl, 150
G. (R, J,} on Michael Baniin, 399
Grocott (John Coqier ), of Liverpool, noticed, 226
Grootne (F, H,) on Gip^y names, 27, 222
Groves, a Lincolnshire field ^name, 71
G. (S. D.) on movable figures in booka, 396
Suffolk charters, 183
''Gueesee at Truth/* lettered paragraph!, 89, 155, 278
Guilleville (Guillaume de), '* Pilgrimage of the Soul,"
8, 99, 49
Gni«e (Henri, Duke of), autograph, 408
Guixot (F.«P. G), hifl death, 240
Gule of the Gftrioch, 257
Gunn (Ch. HaLnta), biography, 88, 151
Gunpowder plotJ», S11, 51E>
GuTdon (P.) on Eaattnintter. 369
Gufttavua IL, Adulphus, portraits of him and hia
office™, 183
G. (WJ on baths in the Middle Ag^ 362
*' Bonnie Hoaao of Airlie,** 74
Knorr and Spell, 134
Newby, a Yorkshire place-name, 429
Poets aiul proper names, 38
Gwinnett ( Ambroae), hii trial and exe«utto% 158
H. on aaeii" braying, 454
Latin and G reek verae, modem, 289
Novels, two old, 406
H. ( A.> on Tear, its derivation, 73
Hacket (Bp.) on Christmaa, 502
fl. {A^ BA on Idrenn vine, 497
Had be : Had to, :ii
IHaddenham, IhIo of Ely, churoh heUa, 147, 194, 314
IIagg= broken ground in a bog, 7t, 115, 253
Haig (J. R.) on A£rican aj^pry brnds, 415
HaiUtone (E,) on Comni! - nare, 28S
Halde (J, a du), *' DescF , 109
Hftiford (Stt Henrj), MJ>., aiiU i>r. vvra. Vaughan,
Halifax Grammar School seal, 408
Enll, Wyoh, and snlt- works, 183, 219, 309
Hall (H,) on Cape Town funeral customs, 5
De VUliers family, 524
HalHc= Hazel, 2(U
Hamilton (Elijsabeth), antborew, 406, 497
Hamilton (J*) on Washington medal, 376
Hamilton (W,> on La Rretton at Rouen, 386
'* Rejected Addresses,** 486
Hammond (A^ de L,) on burning of a pregnant
woman, 172
Hampstea«l, originally Hamostede, or Homestead,
160 ; its church, iL
Ham|>Btead Heath almshousej^, 513
Hamat (Olphar) on T, Allington, minor poet, 135
American reprints, 335
Anonymous workp, 109
" Arcbffiological Epistle," 251
Banim (Michael), 254
Bookseller, an old, 28S|
"Butterfly's Ball,'* 372
Falconet, the artist, 116
Fielding's Proverbs, 414
Gahb (Rev, Thomas), tracts, 333
Hamilton (Elizabeth), authoress, 497
Histofy of Scotland, 114
Hlustrationa, new and old, 466
** Le Procfes dca Trois Roift," 357
Lutwyohe (Mrs. Mary), 348
Marriages, fictitious, 306
"Nubilia,*' 497
ParliameDt, the Long, 428
"Private History of the Court of England/* 818
** Reginald Trevor/* 137
Roland (Madame), Memoirs; 411
Sayen (James), caricaturist, 2S1, 382
Serrea(Mm), 177, 298
Tima newipaper : Letters by an Englishmftn, 458
"Vagabond, The/* 49?
ZomSn family, 269
Hanging and resuscitation, 12, 158
Hardy (Rev. Samuel), biography, 8, $5^ 116
Hare, folk-lore concerning the, 'l 4
Hare (S. V,) on epitaph at Almondebnry, 305
Harington (E. C.) on change of Christian name, 295,
354
Harlowe (S. K) on picture sale in 1758. 22
Harold (King), his deathplaoe, 407
Harrison (D.) on Wyatt family, 155
Harrison (W.) on herring counting, 417
Haydon (h\ S.) on Isabel and Elizabeth, 236
Shotover, its derivation, 274
Hayttan poet, lines by, 109, 156
H* (B, Y,) on titles of Alexander IL, 72
Heame (Thos.), I
Helen gen waq^h^ ti.
Hemming, K
Hemming (f
*" Arobr* ^-
Baming the dead,
ed to, 118
nme, 4S8
uitirk, A.D. 811-12, 88,254
vmous worka, 329
iiaiW 150
Si5
Henlrey (H, W.) on Arundel marblaa, 387
Drury Honse^ 48
Herbert (J.), and L L., 329
Popham (Alexander, Lord), 188
Henooghe in Ath, ita locality, 488
542
INDEX.
{S!s?s8ris?«a?asis*
Heraldic : Gules, a chevron battled, kc, between 8
mullets, 18 ; a feese embattled, in chief 2 saltires,
in base a garb, 39; az., a cross pat^ between i
fleur-de-lys, &c., 88, 155; arg., a chevron engrailed
between mullets, &c., 329; arg., barry of four, vert,
329; arg., on a bend wavy, cottised gu., kc., 367;
a chevron, upper part embattled, &c., 467
Heraldic Magazine, 57
Heraldic queries, 48, 135, 188, 849, 495
Heraldry: Bar sixuster, 18, 198, 337; Sinople, 88,
155, 277| 417 ; strawberry leaves on coronets, 129 ;
sixteen quarteringn, 180, 238
Herbert (J.), artist, 329
Hereford, arms of the see, 32
Herefordshire, ** Memoirs of the Civil War in," 448
Hermentrude on Alesia, as a Christian name, 227, 456
Bardolf of Wirmegay, 17
Edward IIL, a grand-daughter of, 253
Ermine Street, 415
Gospatric genealogy, 175
Isabel and Elizabeth, 166
Mortimer of Wigmore, 87
Party, in the sense of a person, 520
Shaftesbury abbesses, 168
Shotover, 197
Strangeways (Sir Thomas), 16
Valletorta (Reginald, Count de), 431
Hermit of Bed-Coat's Green. See Jatnes Luoat,
Herrick (Robert), **To Anthea»" 328, 521
Herring counting in North Devon, 167> 215 ; in the
Isle of Man, 417
Hervey (T. K.), poem, 89, 175
H. (E. S.) on Chapman's "Bussy d'Ambois/' 487
H. (F.) on an old clerical anecdote, 204
Mercury watery, 9
"Minick"and "Minikin," 148
" Proat," a verb neuter, 49
H. (F. S.) on sons of the clergy, 346
H. (G.) on Calenturists, a sect, 269
H. (G. L.) on flogging in schools, 78
Poe (E. A.), works, 105
H. (H.) divorce law at the Cape, 365
Streel, a provincialism, 105
Tichbome (Dowager Lady), 45
Hibemia on " Christianity as Old as Creation," 876
Hibemicus on compilers of genealogies, 232
Hie et Ubique on contraction for Jesus, 375
Rahel and Rachel, 238
Watts (Dr.), lines, 179
Hice (C. B.) on Mary of Buttermere, 176
Higson (J.) on **0h, Roger I oh, Roger," 487
His, Shakspeare's use of the word, 2, 55, 178
Historical relations, curious, 286, 453
History repeating itself, 485
H. (J.) on *'Ibhar" explained, 13
H. (L. H.) on lunar rainbow, 92
Hobeon (Thomas), of Cambridge, epitaph, 45
Hogarth (WUliam), "Marriage h U Mode," 52 ; his
portraits of himself, 488
Hogg (J.) on Unes attributed to Bums, 523
" Firm and erect," &c., 315
Hogg (James) and Wordsworth, 9, 157 ; and Byron,
158
Hogmany, or Hwgmany, 329, 517
Holden (H, A,) on Latin and Greek vewe, 369
Holland Honsa^ Genei*! Fox on, 201, 231
Holland (John), of Sheffidd Park, Life, 888
Holland (R.) on abbreriatod plaoa-amnei^ 94
Holly and mistletoe, 509
Hombre^ a game, not Ombre, 150
Home (John), his quatrain, 815
Hooper (Bp. Oeoige), pedigree and deaeandants, 229
Hooper (Bp. John), pedigree and deeoendanti^ 2tt;
333
HoppuB (J. D.) on wonning for canine nbiea, 150
Horace, Sat i. 8, 107: new zeadingw, 285, 415; "Sm-
adon,*' 285, 456, 494
Horrocks (Jeremiah), astronomer, epitaph, 205, 27i
835 ; biognphy, 274, 801, 885, 889
HospitaUers, their badges 110, 178» 818; «Ur
oniination, 178
Houselling cloths, 809,522
Howazd (J. J.) on Bedell fiunily, 9
Howe (Lord), Unes on his victory of Jane 1, 1794, 146
H. (P.) on *< Private History of the Court of &«•
land,** 208
Tureen : Terrine, 256
H. (R.) on Hemming, Eling of Denmark, 88
H. (S.) on Druid, its poetical meaning, 79
H. (T.) on Barnes surname and fiunily, 176
Hubbard (J. R.) on Liddell v. WesterUm, 818
Hughes (T.) on Devonshire saying, 882
Huguenbt, origin of the name^ 806, 488
Huguenots in Ireland, 826
Hume (David) and John Home, 815
Humourist, use of the word, 518
Hundred silver, 488
Hungerford (Sir Edward) of Farley, his wife, 229, 293
his age, 293, 418
Hunt (James Henry Leigh), letters to from Genenl
Fox, 201 ; verses on, 360
Huntingdon (Rev. Mr.), chaplain at Aleppo, 512
Hurdis (James), poetical works, 213
Hurry family arms, 512
H. (W.) on old engraving, 209
Haddenham diurch bells, 147
Place-names, abbreviated, 330
Hyde Park, Cheesecake House in, 467
Hyde (Henry) of Purton, his family, 847, 495
Hymn tune, ** Drumdog," 167, 240
I used to soilen abrupt utterance, 101
Ibhar, its meaning, 18, 98
Icelandic and English words compared, 443
Idaean vine, 365, 497
I. (J. D.) on Blow's Bible, 325
Illustrations to books, 444, 466
India, Portuguese grants of land in, 428
Indian ink topographical drawings, 387
Indian marriage or betrothal custom, 249
log, in field-names, 71> 253
Inglis (R.) on Ch. Haines Gunn, 88
'* Haroun Alompra," 110
Logan (Wm. McGregor), 148
** Millennium," dramatic poem, 49
Sargent (Mrs. Jane Alice), 28
« School Dialogues," 867
Inner Templar on affidavit evidence, 186
Inquirer on peculiar spelling, 78
I
*' InitituUoDeB Ctericorum in (Jomitata WiItonia&/' BOy
220
loUnthft. See ViolnnU.
loU oQ '' God bJesi the mtak ! " 169
Ipom<ea Qu&iDoclit, 328
IreUnd, barn of Skutl&bogtie, 125, 17^^ ; andenily Iris,
211 ; Journal of the Aasoouitiuti, 259 ; French
refageetio, 269
Ireland (WilliAm Henry) And Fielding'fl Proverbit, 209,
414
Irenwufi on *'The Shepherd of HenuM,*' 101, 171
Irie, the leland of, 129, 211
Iriihbull*, 25, 188
Iri^b puntflhmentu and eiecutions, 223, 2d2
Iron trftde and Foley the fiddler, 263
Isaac family, 38, 78
Iiiabel and EUzabeth, 166, 215, 210, 236
Italv: The Voyage of Italy, by Richard Lasuele, 242,
2U
J, on "'Modem Account of Scotland," 2011
Jabe2 on Atbizzia sencocephalA^ 110
t Arithmetic : caating out ninea, 3*3
Aroint. Sliak»pearian word, 27?
Baoon (Miae Delia), 246
Coimnaf, inverted, 56, 337
Biphthongfl, their reversal, 453
Evil eye, &3
Killigrew family, 487
** Love's Labour 'b Loet," 3
Lunar rainbow^ 298
Milton: *; Built," 7
Moment^ its meaning, 407
Moon-booka, their bibliography, 443
Plaoe-namea, abbreviated, 330
Shakespeare and contemporary writers, 101 ;
bn«t at Stratford, 214
Bhak^eariana, 63
Somerville (Mary), reference, 43
tvackjon (C.) on heraldic query, i^
Jackson (F. M.) on old engraving*, ^58
I«ondon Companies, 231
Jackson (S.) on Fielding's Proverbi^ 200
^m Knurr and Spell, 134
^M '' Man in tbe Moon,'^ 304
■ Savvy day = Pay day, 149
H " Th' berrin's gooe by," &c , 13
H Ultima as a Christian name, 09
~ *' Wiggletworth Hunt,*' 458
Jookflon (\V^) on autogrApb of Bui'UF, l&O
"Jacobus '* piece, 35, 79
James (E. N.) on Christmaa^ay of 1624. £05
ILaa«eLi(Hicliard), 242,261
Louis XIV., medal, 3Se
Mead (Dr.), picture-sale, 107
*' New SUte of England," 475
Tutors, trnvHlinpT. 327
yenico (f' -tie, 478
hia
Vervain -
Jail
jro
s 294
G20
I ^i
Ja;
riana, 04
in place^namet,
40S
J, (E.) on " Cbrist'uuiity as Old as Creation," HO
J. (E. H.) on Devonshire bays, 406
Fletcher, Bp, of Worcester, Z55
Jenifer, a woman's name, 305, 376, 487
Jennour family of Essex, arms, 6S, 155
Jerdan ( William), memorial tombstone, 300 j and'^Xbu
Literary Gazette,'' 340
Jeremiah (J,), jua., on ** Ye boareV head,*' 507
Jerram (C. S.) on Catullus : '^ Hoc ut dixit," &o», 470
Latin and Greek verse, 338
Jeae (G. E.) on bones from Egypt, 434
** Cry of Nature,** 367
*' Darkfiton Bull Bait,'' 398
De Qumcey: Gough'sfate, 1% 75
Flash, a field name, 254
Folk lore, 84
Gate, a provinciaUsm, 406
Greyhound, its derivation, 855
Jacobus piece, 79
Martonoak, 522
Moreton (Earl of)i 55
Parallel passages, 464
Scotch shepherd's dog, 179
Tristram (Sir), Treatise of Hunting, 488
Worming for canine rabies ^ 212
Jesus, Early English oontracdon for, 265, 375, 437
Jew's will, bequostfl in one, 38, 73, 297
Jewish prayers for the dead, 38, 78, 297
Jewish proper names, 339
Jews in Englimd, their earliest status, 12; register of, Zlt
J. (G, S.) on Sbakspeare : " Rain potatoes," 145
J. (K. M.) on autograph of Burns, 72
J. (M.) on marriages in private bouses, 468
J, (ML C.) on Transit of Venus, 205
Joan of Arc, an epitaph of, 465
Jonsa (Inigo) and the Earl of Pembroke, 207, 331
Jones (Paul), his naval action, 348, 396, 41VS
Jon son (Ben), juD., '• Poems,'* 208
Jottings in byways, 42
Jonrdan family, 70,113
J. ("R.) on thetneaning of " Calenturists,** 433
J. (S. B.) on chancels placed westw^ard, 479
Judges on circuit, 27, 135, 217
Jug with inscription, 380
Junius Letters! Junius and "The Ministerialist," 86
Jarv, grand, its number, 408
Justices, their wages, 228, 293
K. on Glastonbury thorn, 616
'* No when," 8
Kapp (Friedricb), ** Geschichta der Deutsoben Eia-
wanderung in Amerika," translation, 83
K (A. R.)or w= '* .. W-n West Fcltort, 157
Karl on Prt . !» 408
Kaye (M.) oi. walk, 107
K. (C.) on alms diiibei, '■dif'J
K, (C, D.) on prophecy of the telegraph. 483
K, (C* S.) on ** British and ContmentalTitles of Honor/
23, 195
G ustavua Adolphus and Ms officers, portraits, 1 88
Nobility granted to foreigners, 312
Robertson family, 211
KeMsnd family of Painsford, 348, 484
544
INDEX.
/ Index Sappl«ineDt t« the Notai atri
lQa«ri«8, with No. H.Jaa. M,U7tu
Kelpie, its derivation, 287, 475
Kemble (Father), his hand, 44, 92 ; account of, and
his execution, 192 ; his grave, 238
Kempis (Thomas h) on pilgrimages, 446
Kennedy (H. A.) on Devil Ukened to a busy bishop, 166
Hanging and resuscitation, 12
" Taking a sight,'* 234
Thieves, the two, 238
Zinzan Street, Beading, 115
Kent, Aid of Anno 34 Edward I., 81 ; its capital,
289, 831
Kerslake (T.) on double Christian names, 271y 295
K. (H.) on the word Bohemian, 365
« Sleeps like a top," 354
Solidarity, meaning and derivation, 75
*' Wise after the event,'* 354
"Kike," in Chaucer. 41, 110, 197
Kilgour (H.) on Charles I. as a poet, 93
Clachnacudden stone, 451
Gipsies, 421
Malcohn III. of Scotland, 444
Stuart and Sutherland, 85
Killiecrankie, Pass of, tradition, 145
Killigrew family, 487
King (Edward), MUton's "Lyddas," 47
]^g*s Evil, touching for, 426, 523
Kirby's '' Wonderful Museum," plates in, 368, 496
Kirkstall Abbey, Yorks, 13th abbot, 28
Knave, its meanings, 31, 155 ; and the Irish hnab''ret
277
Knight of Somerset on Templars and Hospitallers, 318
Knighthood : St. John of Jerusalem, 159 ; Constan-
tinianOrderof St. George, 240, 260, 278, 352
Knockers muffled in kid gloves, 428
Knurr and Spell, 133
K. (W. G.) on S versus Z, 58
L substituted for R, 95
L. on Arthurian localities, 181
Berghe or Bergue (0. V.), artist,* 209
Field-lore, 253
Robertson family, 211, 393
Sele, meaning and etymon, 36
Therf-cake: Caar: Beastie-milk, 54
Lamartine (Alphonse), his errors in grammar, 160
Lamb (Charles), dialogue with Hazlitt, 266
Lammin (W. H.) on Nicholas Stone, 465
Lampedusa in 1690, 103
Lancastro (Counts of), 804, 419
Land, singular tenures, 224, 316; its terms and
measures, 260
Laplace (Marquis de), phrase attributed to, 447
La Roche or Porter family, 67, 114
Larpent (P.) on Payzant (J.), French refugee, 9
Porter, or La Roche, 67
Lassels (Richard), biography, 242 : " The Voyage of
Italy," 243, 261
Last, a measure of herrings, 167, 215
Latimer : Arundel, 88
LatiB ADdEDghBh quantities, 1-, 417, 526
Latin vene, mediseral and modern, 248,2E9,^^T,^^^>
389,449
X-anreB* (F.; on Brao«e=BaYent, 436
Cobbam: Roob, BO
Laurent (F.) on Waynedowtee : Plogh-olowtes, 16
Laverton church, co. Somerset, 224
Lawrence funily in Hants, '285
Lawrence (Sir Thomas), mezzotint, 4*29
Laycauma on Wick, in place names, 251
L. (B.) on armoxial queries, 329
Lease for lives, 249, 334
Leatherlund (Betsy), her longevity, 183
Le Compte (Father Louis), translations of *' Nouveaux
M^moires de la Chine," 148, 234
Le Deneys, origin of the niyne, 188, 259
Lee (F. G.) on altar-rails covered, 522
Desvalpon inscription, 225
Oxfordshire miracle play, 503
" Service for the Churching of Women," 125
Vestments at St. John's Coll., Oxford, 441
Lees (E.) on Glastonbury thorn, 516
Sun-flower turning to the sun, 172
Le Geyt (C. A.) on the name Jenifer, 376
Leicester House, Leicester Fields, 205
licicester Square equestrian statue, 46, 91, 292, 453
Lenihan (M.) on Father Kemble^s hand, 44
Lent, marriages in, 367, 495
Leofric, his missal, reprint, 188
Leslie on Alpine fox- dogs, 89
Lett (F. N.) on curiosities described by Feijoo, 447
Letter, curious treasonable, 6, 60
L. (F. N.) on T. Wentworth of Bretton Hall, 149
L. (H. A.) on the derivation of Snape, 449
L. (I.), artist, 329
Liddell t^. Westerton. See Privy Oouneil Judffmentt.
Like, as a conjunction and substantive, 97, 114, 217
Lilly (William), maker of almanacks, 155
Lindis on Calcutta relic, 112
Chattan dan motto, 358
"Kenelm Chillingly," 255
Littledale (H.) on "Flower and the Leaf," 44
Littleton family, 408, 460
Livingston (Mary), attendant of the Queen of Scots, 422
Livonia (Alexander), Prince of, his seal, 428
Livy, passage in, 128, 194
LlandafF(Bp. of), temp. James I., 467
Lloyd (David), Llwynrhydowen, 35
Lloyd (G.), on autograph of the Duke of Guise, 408
L. (M.) on ** Bonnie Dundee," 493
" Bonnie House of Airlie," 28, 113
liocke (John) and the Quakers, 266, 359
Locomotive, first English one in New York, 166
Loftie (W. J.) on Latin and Greek verse, 449
Lofts (H. C.) on Bedell family, 418
Gog-Magog Hills, 510
Wink, in place-names, 455
Logan (William McGregor), biography, 148
London, Society of Arts' memorial tablets, 106, 155,
257, 524 ; compared with Antioch, 146, 273
London Companies or Guilds, 48, 96, 198, 229
London fortifications, set of drawings, 188, 215
Longevity, remarkable instances, 9, 122, 182, 245
Lotus, the sacred, 461
Louis XIV.. medal, 386
Lucas (James), Hermit of Red-Coat's Green, 423, 497
ilivicQA, ydl " Lucufl a non lucendo," 205, 272, 418
Index Supplement to the Notes andl
Qnerle*, with No. OS, Jan. 16, 1879. /
INDEX.
545
Lydd, its church and Card. Wolaey, 148
Lyon Herald Office in Scotland, 448
Ly ttelton (Lord) on Catullus : " Hoc ut dixit," 4c., 429
'' Christianity as Old as Creation," 175
Commas, inverted, 97
French and English vulgarisms, 285
Latin and Greek verse, modern, 289
Littleton family, 450
Newlyn, surname, 53
"Ph" in diphthong, 21G
Pronunciation in singing, 314
"Sanadon," 494
Spelling reforms, 473
Veto, the Royal, 426
Wellesley (Lord) and Lord Comwallis, 24
Lyttelton (Thomas, Lord), his dream and death, 401,
508
Ly tton (Edward Bulwer, Lord), reference in " Kenelm
Chillingly," 169, 255
M
M. on " Auld Wife-hake," 154
Field-lore, 71
Roman Catholic landed gentry, 49
Macadam (W. J.) on " Auld Robin Gray," 272
St. Verdiana, 34
"Willie was a wanton wag," 413
Maoaulay (T. B., Lord) on Spenser and Milton, 44,
130 ; his opinions criticized, 280, 395 ; his " Young
Levite," 445
MacCabe (W. B.) on administration of the law in
IreUnd, 223
MacCulloch (E.) on words passmg from one language
to another, 90
M'C. (E.) on '' As sound as a roach," 458
Macgrath (T.) on Bums and Massinger, 158
Gray's "Elegy," 54
Party, in the sense of a person, 520
"Topsy-turvy," 478
Mackenzie (Henry), the *' Scottish Addison," 325
Macklin (Charles), his age, 245
Macknight (James), D.D., his personal history, 486
Maclean (Sir J.) on Mrs. Mary Arthur, a centenarian,
122
Osteman, its meaning, 110
Macpherson (J.) on combatants at Perth, 69, 410, 471,
490
Madxune and Monsieur, 205, 274, 413
Madoc on aroint : rowan-tree, 134
Maille, its meanings, 57
M. (A. J.) on abbreviated place-names, 330
Malcolm IIL of Scotland, his Gaelic name, 444
Maleuvre (Pierre), French engraver, 358
"Man-a* lost," an owl legend, 218
Manchester, Proctor's Memorials, 279
Mant (F.) on Rahel and Rachel, 436
Manuel (J.) on Cardan wells in Scotland, 476
Chap-book literature, 352
Clachnacudden stone, 214
Flodden battle, 125
Hare folk-lore, 14
Rahel or Rachel, 133
St. Triduaaa, 397
Weir (Major) of Edinburgh, 273
Whisky, Scotch national drink, 154
Manuscript, words in an old, 368
Manuscripts, a way to mend old, 246
Margetson arms, 287, 433
Margetson (James), Apb. of Armagh, his wife, 209,
238, 316'
Maria, as a man*s Christian name, 73, 478
Mark (Count Von der), 368
^larkey, its locality, 15
Marlborough E^mily picture, 48
Marlborough (Sarah), Duchess of, and Queen Anne,
27, 308, 434
Marples (John), millwright, 307, 433
Mar-Prelat (Margery), tracts, 92
Marriage custom, Indian, 249
Marriage entry, curious, 225
Marriages, fictitious, 306 ; in Lent, 367, 495 ; in private
houses, 468
Marrot, its meaning, 510
Marsden (D. W.) on a silver star, 388
Marshalate, an absurd designation, .329
Marshall (Ed.) on Fleurdelys, 14
Jews, registers of, 85
Justices' wagee, 293
.Latin and Greek verse, modern, 290
Liddell v, Westerton, 211
Master, as a clerical title, 29
" Make a bridge of gold," &c., 377
Naaman the leper, 259
Pretender in England, 526
Pury funily, 234
Suffolk charters, 259
Thieves, the two, 238
Touching for the King's evil, 523
Tureen : Terrine, 457
Wesley (John), edit, of Thomas k Kempis, 269
"Wise aOer the event," 354
Ultima, as a Christian name, 452
Marton oak, 366, 522
Marvell (Andrew), reference to a poet, 188
Marx (T.) on " Built here for his envy," 356
Mary of Buttermere, 47, 114, 175
Mary Queen of Scots, and the letters to Bothwell, 66 ;
and the four Marys, 422; her knowledge of
Scotch, 423, 446
Mason (C.) on " History of Scotland," 68
Jourdan (Lieut-CoL H. G.), 70
Paris prisons, 377
Massinger (Philip) and Wycherly, 31, 158
Master, as a clerical title, 29
Matthews (J. B.) on abbreviated place-names, 331
Commas, inverted, 37
Maturin (Rev. C. R.), works by, 428
M. (A. W.) on heraldic query, 495
Seal in two parts, 437
Mayer (S. R T.) on General Fox on Holland House,
&c., 201
Fox (C. J.), his deaf and dumb son, 415
Horrocks (Jeremiah), 274
Leicester Square equestrian statue, 46
Russell (Wm.) Lord, birthplace of, 288
Mayeme (Sir Theodore Torquet do), arms, 48, 114
Mayhew (A. L.) on English and Icelandic words, 443
Ermine Street, 478
Iris, the Island, 211
"MoriseEncomiaiD," 256
546
INDEX.
{Index 9iin>lcmcni to the Notes wA
Qn«ilis, wfUi No. H. Jan. 1«, ISTS.
Majhew (A. L.) on Muse, a gentleman, 89
Plagal, its etymon, 108
PwJm xc. 10, 75
Babel or Rachel, 133
Scilly Isles, 194
Sinople, in heraldry, 417
" The Three Bears," 74
Thieves, the two, 238
Maynwaring (Arthur), biography and works, 288,
874, 418
M. (G. R.) on Naaman the leper, 258
Mead (Dr.), picture sale in 1754, 107
Meas, a measure of herrings, 167, 215
Medals : Waterloo and Peninsular, 17 ; William I., 67,
154 ; Washington, 308, 375
Medweig on inverted commas, 116
Mercury water, 234
Note of exclamation (!), 56
Memory, feat of, 265
Mendeissohn-Bajrtboldy (Felix) and Moses Mendels-
sohn, 88, 136
Mercury water, 9, 74, 234
M. (H. A. St. J.) on Mercury water, 74
Philip, Earl of Pembroke, 831
''Sleeps like a top," 354
Michelboume (John), his relations,' 247
Micklethwaite (J. T.) on corpses entombed in waUs,
234, 387, 457
Middle Templar on "Astucious," for astute, 249
"British and Continental Titles," 95, 851
Burning pregnant women, 127
Canning (Elizabeth), 75, 216
Coronerships, private, 192
Humourist, use of the word, 513
Lease for lives, 334
Liddell v. Westerton, 313
Party, in the sense of a person, 521
Princes of the blood royal, 37, 278
Sconce, its meaning, 358
Villenage, 178
Middleton (A.) on Field-lore, 71
Miege (Guy), .works, 475
Miles on the second Crusade, 1 29
Milgate family arms, 19
Miller (J.) on dock- striking, 268
Milles (Dean), "The Archaeological Epistle to," 150,
251, 270
MiUett (G. B.) on mending old MSS., 246
Milner (Dr. John), his body disinterred, 219
MUton (John), *' Built here for his envy," 7, 132, 217,
856; "Gentle Muse," in "Lycidas," 89, 155, 816;
"Shepherd tells his tale,'* in "L'AUegro," 94, 158,
378 ; his common-place book found at Netherby,
280 ; "The grim feature," 378
Minick and Minikin, derivations, 148, 235
" Ministerialist, The," anonymous pamphlet, 86
Miracle in 1656, 166
Misprints. See PrinterB* Errort.
Missals: Leofric's, 188; Joannis Winterburger's,
267; Dotinchemense, 467
Mistletoe and holly, 509
M. (J. C.) on Mary Queen of Scots, 66
Will, a poetical, 226
M—m (R,) on an epitaph, 895
Geognphical query, 859, 473
Mnemonic calendars, 238, 853, 414
Molibre (J. B. Poquelin de), a repetition in hif play%
449
Moment, its meaning, 407
Monday : Yange Monday, 28, 74, 178
MouBieur and Mlulame, 205, 274, 413
Montagu (Mrs. Elizabeth), profile portnut, 28
Montaigne^B Essays, passage in, 276
Monte de Alto on hundred silver, 488
" Monthly Magazine," quoted, 488
Montrond (Count), noticed, 474
Montrose (James) 1st Marquis, and the home d
Airiie, 28, 74, 113
Moon (Patty), her " Walk ** near Tunbridge WelUi, 407 *
Moon-books, bibliography of, 448
Moore (Thomas), "The Lighthonae,'* 33; ''The
Slave," 809, 454
Moreton (Earl of), in Domesday, 55
Morfill (W. R) on the title Tzar, 65, 175
Morgue, its derivation, 391
Morgue roister, " Le livre des Maccab^esi,'' 891
Morphyn (H.) on Field-lore, 71
Mortimer fiimily. Lords of Wigmore, 37, 117
Mostar de yelis, its meaning and derivation, 488
Motley (J. Lothrop) and Gaspar Scioppius, 445
Mottoes: Chattanclan, 146, 218, 85S, 487; "Plus est
en vous,** 614
M. (S. T.) on J. T. Serres, marine punter, 289, 397
M. (T. J.) on Bridgeford funily, 522
Mudford (William), editor and author, bia death, IdO,
216
Mughouse dubs, 333, 858
Murithian, A, on Jerusalem artichoke, 172
Thistle, the blessed, 48
Murithian Botanic Society, 80, 140
Muse, a " gentleman," 89, 155, 816
M. (W.) on unsettled baronetcies, 410
Eglinton peerage, 379
M. (W. H.) on card games, 512
M. (W. M.) on poem by Catherine Fanshawe, 43
St. Catherine of Sienna, 77
M. (W. T.) on Macaulay*8 " young Levite," 445
Petronius Arbiter, 437
M. (Y. S.) on assumption of arms, 477
Bedell family, 334
Bramhall and Margetson arms, 433
Osborne family, 493
Richardson family, 356
N
N. on Balzac and Shelley, 106
Bideford epitaph, 25
Colman (Geo.), '* Reckoning with Time," 277
Elb5ton or HelbOton, 249
Historical relations, curious, 286
Southcote (Joanna), her followers, 194
Stockport carriages, 128
"Universe, The," 428
Wordsworth (William), his " Excursion," 9 ; whI
Hogg, 157
Naaman, the leper, 188, 258
Names derived from nicknameii, 2, lOS
Napier (G. W.) on Margery Mar-Prelal^ 92
Napoleon I. See Bonaparte*
k 'K«v\.\iQt, Ita ptonunciatioD, 146, 263
• NoIm ltd I
i.i'.i.inrz, I
I N D E X.
Mr
Keomaguft on lireecbe* Bible, 2^d
MAniu^e L»f tkti JJugv teutl the AdrUtic, 454
Kftbttl and Rjicliel, K'8
New by, Yotkalure plACi^name^ 42^
K* iIvAtion. $, 53, 178
K* ' ly), nonjuror, 1*23
Kew«pap-=rs iiubitshed io 1S24, 118, 140, 160
New York, first Eiigllsb locomotive io, \6ii
N* (I.) on Mftrch dust, WS
Nicholson (B.) on Jottings in bj^e-wikys, i2
Sb&kspc^riana, 2S3
NicksoQ (Joftepb), priuter, notiooij, 217
Night-crow, ill ShnkiipeAre, 7t>, 258
NightoQ (V.) on London coinpaniet, 95
Nile, its course according to Libflchoten, 260
Kithidale (Counteea of) And her Lush&nd*it escape, QO
N. (J.) on Taws: Fan, 14
Nobility panted to foreign ers, 51, 312 ; ialtarnAtlonnl
title«. 301
Nodal (J, U.) on *'ateawt/' a Lancashire word, 134
NomencUture, hybrid, S^'tfi
Norgate (Fj on *' Christianity aa Old as the Craation/*
H*5
Franeham (Isaac and John), S7
"Kite* of tbo Christian Church," 415
Norcnan i Loui&a J.) on wig^js^bona, or cakes, 178
North (T ) on John de Stiitford, bell-founder, 435
Northumberland earldom and Percy the trunk-maker,
Northumberland House lion, 4o
Note of tjxclaination ('), iti u«i«, 56
NovAvilla on Shirley family, 76
NoveK two old, 406, 4J>7'
'«No when," 874
N. (S. ) on fttr^ndrtrd weights and mea«uref<« ^CO
NumrouB on nobility granted to foreigners, 52
Nurembcrij virgin* 20&, 274
Nursery rhyme, fting a Song of Sixpence, II
Nursery tale. The Three Beans 7*
Nuraery t^le^, teiigtutiA ech^>es io, 424
0
Oak &t Martou, 30$i 522 ; Iron in, 420
•'Oakleigh Forest Code," S')8, r.24
Oakley (J. H. Ij on Latin <iuantitbp, 13
Moore's " The Lighthouse," ZH
Oakley (W. H,) on Sir Christopher Wandeaforde, 371
O'C. (A.) on grotesque medieBv:^! carvinija, 847
O. (G, D, \VJ on ancient episcopal see^, 47
O. (J.) on Saupor Post-Bag, 287
Oldfitiid^ bell founders, 19i5, 314
Olive (the pReudoprinceas). Se« jS«rre*,
Oliver (Mother), procuress temp* Charlev II«, 25 i
Ombpp* Sen Ifomltrf,
Omega oi in Livy, 128
OMuico ;
•*On. .,, 4,456, 4^0
•*0i >n^ Teinporitro," laS
0«ii. lu China,*' 109
Oabi»r«i« ilip ), of ^eter, 426
Oabome famUy, U7, 493
Oscar, proper ii&m«, 38 S
Oateman, ita meaning and derivation, 110, lf»2
Oswald (John), work?, 4i>6
OiherwhilBf, an old word, 3Sd, 435
Otto on the '* Vengour," 34
Cutis on clasRiovl tign boards, 17
*^ Ycux," the Froncb wonl, 174, 3Q3
Overton (F.^ on works by Spagnolettu, 109
Owl l*fgend, *♦ Man-a-Iost/' 21S
Owlet on Rev» Samuel Hardy, 55
Oxford, Tom quad at Christ Churoh, IGS ; vestmenta
at St, John a College, 441
Oicfordi^hire Christmas miracle play, r>03
Oylegeags : Allyiegs, 7
P. on nomenclature of vehielei, SPS
Paddys Patrick, fint nse of the word, 347j its derlvit*
ti.m, SPfi
P. (A, G.) on James Sayem, caricatunst, 334
Pikine (Thomaa), portrait, 138
Painawick, yew trees at, Z65t 455
Painting of a lady, 463
pAhBologns (Prince Comnenus), his death, 240 r hia
parenUge, 2S0, 352
Palindromes, 106
F&lmleri (6.) on Bante and hta traoAlators, 515
Pan : Panfield, ita meaning, 9, 74, 1 73
Pjtralbl I ,6, 25, 31, 0(J, Sti, 100. 145. 158.
167, ^'JO, 461
PArayL :^ I ...... piijifrimago, 446
Park*(G. R.) on seala in two parts, 308
Parkin (J.) on Totoesa barony, 4S*4
Paris, its pris^ma, 153, 225, 377, 397 .
Pnrliamenr, French work on the Long, 423, 521
Porliaroentary *' Fatberit," 406
Party, in the senile of a person, 346, 520
pAacal (Blaise). traneUtora of his ** PruvinciAl Letters*/'
156
Pasamgham (R.) on unsettled baronetcies, 15
** New State of England,** 429
P.irliamentary *' Fathers," 406
Peerage and Baronetage, 415
*' Rcndez-voui," 169
P&^torini, hia prophecies, 13, 77
Paten inscriptions. 27, 74
Pa tenon (Jame*), an appeal for, 400
Paterson (Robert), ** Old Mortality," family, r»7
Patrick (Simon), Bp. of Ely. an imitator of Bunysn,
148, 213
Patterson (W. H.) on '' Czarisb Majesty," 246
Engravings, two old, 4/
Fry (Mr), " Ye King'^ coal porter,'* 110
Gule of the Gariocb, 257
Huguenots: Ireland, 326
Lawrence (Sir T-), mezzotntt, 42&
London comjmred with Antiodi, 146
Monsieur and Madame. 274
Napoleon's scaffold at Waterl^, 316
3ouB, ita pronunciation, 43S
" Waahing an apron,** 3S7
Paxton (Sir Joseph), his obligations to otUerv, 307i 453
Payne baronetcy, 159
Fayaant (James), French relbgee, 9
548
INDEX.
{Index BapAlemetti to the RoUi aaA
QoeriM. wUh No. 85, Jan. le, um
F. (B.) on Brooke and Powell families, 48
P. (E. A.) on American States, 174
Australian drama, 55, 497
Macaulay's opinions criticized, 395
St. Catherine of Sienna, 17
Stanley of Birmingham, 52
Peacock (E.) on <' Antient," a military term, 133
Boroagn English, 456
Falconet the artist, 54
Figures in books, movable, 896
Kemble (Father), 192
Nuremberg virgin, 274
Patrick (Symon), 213
Sinople, in heraldry, 155
Sutton (Thomas), burial-place, 455
" The Twa Corbies," 189
Vallombrosian nun, 154
Yange Monday, 178
Zinzan fiimily, 358
Peacock (G.) on dominicals, 317
Pina silver, 269
Peacock (&iabel) on the game of cricket, 121
Coronerships of England, private, 191
" Osteman,'' its derivation, 153
Pina silver, 270
Titles of honour, 196
Pearson (J.), jum, on Dickens's " Battle of Life," 169
Pearson (Capt. R), of the "Serapis," 348, 396, 498
Pedigree tracing, 89
Peerage and Bfuronetage, creations in each reign, 268,
415
Peers, Scotch, 222
Pelagius on " Built here for his envy," 856
Dttrer's etchings, 115
Gipsy marriage, 109
God wit, its derivation, 117
MUton's "L' Allegro," 378
Tract, a contraction of tractation, 278
White (GUbert), MS. sermon^ 428
Pelegrin (Abate), anecdote, 249
Pell (Daniel), " Nee inter Vivos, nee inter Mortuos,"
331
Pembroke (Philip), Earl of, and Inigo Jones, 207;
extraordinary will, 331, 477
Penance in a white sheet, 468
Pengelly (W.) on the pronunciation of aches, 139
Beer and wine, &c., 186
Cornish words, 336
Halse= Hazel, 204
Jenifer, Philadelphia, and Philip, 305
March dust, 74
Newlyn, surname, 178
Star dogging the moon, 84
Suffolk words, 454
"Topsy-turvy," 334
Weather sayings, 184
Peninsular medal, 17
Pentecost as a surname, 78, 198
Percy folio Ballads and Romances, corrigenda, 305, 375
Percy (James), Dublin trunk-maker, 275
Perkins (Henry), of Hanworth Park, portrait, 48
Perth in 1396, combaUntsat, 69, 189, 280,410, 471,490
Pesth : Buda: Ofen, 16, 36
Peter the Great at Godaiming, 125
PetroniuB Arbiter, edit of 1626, 249, SS8, iVl
Ph, in diphthong, &c., its pronunciation, 186, 216
Philadelphia, a woman's name, 305
Philip, a woman's name, 305
Philips (John), epitaph, 882
Phillimore { W. P.) on Sir John Whitbrooke, 89
Phillimore (W. P. W.) on two charches in one church-
yard, 291
Phillips (J. O.) on "Fyemarten," "Virgin," 243
Judges on circuit, 135
Phillips (Sir Bichard) and the '* Monthly Magazine^"
229, 816
Phillips (W.) on abbreviated place-names, 330
Cuper's Gardens, 394
Phillot (F.) on a feat of memory, 265
P. (H. R.) on Booty's ghost, 508
Pickering (B. M.) on liddell v. Westerton, 288, 357
Pickford (J.) on the acada, 157
Bar sinister, 18
Burial in an erect position, 346
Derwentwater (Earls of), 486
Ing, in field-names, 71
Jenifer, the name, 437
Latin and Greek verse, 290, 370
Oak at Marton, 366
Radcliffe family, 19
Rubrical query, 191
Sneezing superstitions, 193
Songs in « Rokeby," 115
Picton (J. A.) on '* Auld Robin Gray," 271
Bones of the Pharaohs, 385
Dante and his translators, 430
Gingham, its derivation, 413
Hall, Wych, and salt works, 183, 309
Hurdis (James), poetical works, 213
" Kike," in Chaucer, 110
"Little Monitor," &c., 94
" Pilgrim's Progress," 49
Tooth and egg metal, 255
" What is a pound ? " 470
Y, the termination in place-names, 523
Picture sale in 1758, 22 ; in 1754, 107
Pierce (James), Presbyterian minister, 347, 4l»5
Pigot (H.) on covered altar-rails, 309
Consecration of church plate, 221
Pigott (W. J.) on Dublin taverns, 16S
Heraldic query, 13
Pike (J.) on Leicester Square equestrian statue, 252
Pina silver, 168, 269
Piomingo. "The Savage," 95, 379
Piracy off Jamaica, 209
P. (J. B.) on Dr. Dee's crystal, 376
Erasmus's "Moriae Encomium," 150
Starkey (Capt. Benjamin), 46
Place-names abbreviated, 93, 329
Placido, Cuban poet, his poems, 149
Plagal, its etymology, 197
Plants, their vulgar names, 285
Piatt (W.) on Aristotle on dancing and music, 491
Cohnan (George), 131
** Considerations on the Marriage," &c, 434
'*Ibhar"explwned, 13
Iris, the Island, 211
Moore (T.), "TheSUve," 454
Pina silver, 270
INT>EX.
549
I
I
'JJUfe^
tt (WA on Scots Oreyp. 316, 39r*
Threjvdnecdlo Street, OIJ LEhJy of, 291
•*rUy/*rUTion. 14
Plftjs, two fAultleM, 51 2
Poe (CiJ^ftr Allen ^ worjvs of* JD;"^ ^
Poel»t and proper iiani^s, 3S *^
Politicd Econoiny query, 4 '37
Pollock (Sir ¥A on berrin^-ooantmg. Id?
Pon-ionby <H. F ) on Scota Grey*, 310
Pont (Timothy), hi a map-s 26 7
Pope of Rome. *' the Cho^t of the old Bnipire,^* 50
Pope (Alexander), his maccurnte rhytnw^ 45 ; 'nekelffi
Homer, with MS. notes by, r^SP, 47»3
Popham (Alexander, Ijord), medals, 188
Population two hundred years o^o, 57; the largest) J86
Porter, or La Koche facnily, C7, 114
Portrait of a Indy with embroidered bodice, 488
PortugneBe com, rvJ7, 4S(i
Poflt-Office money ortlera m 1701-2, 26J>, 453
Potter {G.) on Kirby'a ''Wonderful Museam,** 3G8
Ponnd : '♦What ib a Pound I " 248, 333, 435. 470
Powell and Brooke families, 48
Powell family of Radnorshire, 363
P» (P.) on Bunyan'a gold ring, 12Q
"Butterfly's Ball,** 41 S
"Excumgent,'' 5
Judges on circuit, 217
Planti*, their vu%ar names, 285
Simpson k Co., 78
P. (R,) on iymbol in fttained ^ItM^ S6S
Pre«ley (J, T.) on bH * ' rvf Utopifli^ 252
Death, immunti ^
London Compaim -, ^_.'
Sutton (Thomafl)* 492
Ptesp. its development, 118. IW, 160
Preater John of AbyBunia, 32
Pretender. See Stuart.
Priestley (Dr I, satiricat ppitnjtb, 120
Prince on Canterbury foundling, '^'6
Prince (Mary MnchellK 403
Princea of the blood royal, 37, 77, 278
Printers' errors, 12(3, ICO, 58^
Privy GonncU judgments, 128.157, 175. 211» 238,318,
357, 400
Proat, a neuter verb. 49, 114
Prohert (C. K) on Griffinhoofe family natoe, 397
Procter (Bryan WallerV. his death, 300; lua names, 319,
S39
** Pro Matria '" Society, 5*1 4
^onunciation in eingmtj, 267, 314, 357
Prophecies : of Paeliirini, 13, 77; of the telegraph, 483
Frotestont, ori^n of the name, 3<>0
ProujE (Johni of Chrtgfonl, 1C64, 343
Proreths and Fhraiet:^
Akebo: T>-* i— ^- Akeho. 157
Beat the he lion. 111
Cider on i
D»>von»hirL- mMying, 332
r Egg *»i'l ♦hf* hftKp<»iinv, 57
Habakuk, a rhyming proverb, 145
Torinne, 156
^^7
Froverbi luid Phraaes: —
La parole a 6t6 donn^ h rhomme, Itc, 474
Lone woman, 467
Make abridge of gold for a flying enemy, 218, 377
Money the sinewa of war, *2'A9
One man^s meat is another man's poison, C$
Providence on the side of the great batallions, 307,
451
Pot to buck, 76,138,279
Put up with it. 383
Quid hoc ad Iphycli boves, 4S
Rhyming proverbs, 145
Roach : As sound aa a roach, 274, 314, 455, 525
Bobbing Peter to pay Paul, 320
Sixes and sevens, 20
Sleeps like a top, 200, 220. 354
Th* berrin'a gone by, &c-, 13. 178
The end jantifies the means, 426
The English seeraes a foole and is n foole. 4'jS
The world knows nothing of its greatest men, 145
To a red man reade thy read^ 385
Trout : As sound aa a troot, 224, 274
XJnaocnstomed as I am to public speaking, 273, 417
Wine and milk, 235
Wise after tho event. 218, 354
ProvincialLemp, Surrey, 312
Psalm xc, 10, note in **The Speaker « Commentary/' 75
P. (S. T.) on universal biography, 485
Campbell (Thomas), inistaU'es, 2U^i
Cicerxj, Ep. ad Att iv. 15, 2G
Horace, bat- i. 3, 107: new readings, 285
Ibhar, ita meaning, 98
Idtean \^e, 365
Insular accentoations^ 66
L and W substituted for R^ &5
Parallel passagea, 86
Pope (A.), his rhymes, 45
Prophecies of Pastorini, 18
Ripley (Hugh), epitaph, 366
Septtngenarianism, 246
Streel, a provincialism, 174
Terrell a explained, 326
Tureen: Terrinc, 185
Ulster, EnglLsh words in, 426
Walker and Michelboume, 247
Walker's ** Pronouncing Diclionaty," 1 <6
P. (T,) on the Little Summer, 518
P. (T. H.) on " Ph," pronunciation in diphthong, 186
Pnrton (H* B,) on Osteman, ita meaning, 152
Situate, for Situated, 115
"Taking a sight,'^ 299
Tennyson (A.), "ThePoeC 885
Pnrton (W.) on Mortimer of Wigmore, 117
Pnry, or Porey, family of Tayntoti. 149, 234
Pusket = Pod of peas, 69
Pottenham (Geo.), hit defence of Qneen EltsAbetli, 42
P. (W.) on " OtherwhUes," 435
P. (W. H*) on books of trarel, 66
Q
Q. on Lord Collingwood. 48
Silver star, 40(3
Qiiftntook mountain range, co. Sdoaemei, 239
Quarter Penoe, 443
Qnarteringa, dxieen, 180, 233
550
INDEX.
( Index ^upDlement to t^e VMttviA
i Queries* with Mo. K, Jan. It. 1-71L
Qai Tarn on Leicester House, Leicester Square, 205
Quivis on hanging and resuscitation, 13
Thorn, Glastonhury, 617
Wish, carious, 468
Quoits, works on, 76
Quotations :—
A daughter of the gods, 227, 315
And wonder with a face of foolish praise, 47, 95
Before her face her handkerchief she spread, 227,
815
£t comme un jeune coeur est hientdt enflamm^,
227
Firm and erect the Caledonian stood, 22 7t 315
Float«, and gibes, and jeers, 168, 234, 898, 525
Hie liber est, 227, 296, 316, 837
High and Low, watchwords of party, 75
I go my way, thou goest thine, 408
Like as the damask rose you see, 227, 296, 836,
873
Little monitor, from thee, 47, 94
Living one^s life over again, 4
Meteor-like, of stuff and form perplex t, 180
Most wretched men are cradled into Poetry by
wrong, 840
My chaise the village inn did gain, 110, 173, 194
Nothing resting on its own completeness, 408
One truth is clear, whatever is, is right, 240
Our affections and passions, 368, 496
Plurima gemma latet, 328
Quisquis in hoc mundo, 487
Begibus et legibus,, Scotici oonstantes, 227
Shakspeare and the musical glasses, 408, 495
Sweetness and light, 186
Talent is power, tact is skill, 889
The aspiring youth who fired the Ephesian dome,
380
The conscious water saw its God and blushed, 107,
179
The dews of the evening most carefully shun, 80
The Ghost of the old Empire, 56
The sword wearing out the scabbard, 109, 156
There is no pang can deal that justice, 352
There is nothing so successful as success, 47
There 's somewhat in this world amiss, 13
This marriage is a terrible thing, 1 4
This world I deem but a beautiful dream, 308,
352, 437
Thoughts that breathe and words that bum, 160
Vox Dianae ! God bless that sweet face, 1C8
We poets, in our youth, 340
Whatever is best administered is best, 240
Whatever is, is in its causes just, 210
When York to Heaven shall lift one solemn eye,
47, 96, 198
Where Lord Conrad shed his blood, 408
Wine to the poet is a winged steed, 366
Witticisms are often attributed to the wrong
people, 365
Yield homage only to eternal law?, 408
R
R. on Sconce, its etymology, 290
Semple, surname, 427
Stmrt, rojal house of, 496
R. on " Wappen'd widow," 379
"Willie was a Wanton Wag," 412
R. (A.) on Ap, in Welsh surnames, 157
"Brag "ministry, 45
Bunyan's imitators, 336
FaraUeln, litemry, 66
"Reginald Trevor," 19
Welsh sUtes, 43
R. and M. on cure for consumption, 184
Rachel or Rahel, 133, 198, 288, 296, 436
Radcliffe family, 19
Radnor barony, 808
Ragman's roll, or rewe, explained, 346
Rahel or Rachel, 188, 198, 238, 296, 486
Rainbow, lunar, 92, 298
Raisin, its pronunciation, 146, 252
Ramage (0. T.) on Bums: autograph, "To Ter«
raughty," 11; lines ascribed to, 425
Clogstoun family, 57
De Quincis, 129, 170
Paddy=Patrick, 347
ParaUel passages, 145
Paterson family, 97
Shakspeariana, 64
" Willie was a Wanton Wag," 264
" Wise after the event," 217
Randolph (H^) on the pronunciation of aches, 63
Catullus : " Hoc ut dixit," &c., 460
Latin and Greek verse, 389
Parallel passages, 345
Thistle, the blessed, 198
Thunder: weather saying, 184
Wilson (Sir R.), Note-books, 83
Rank rider, its meaning, 357
Rank riders described, 38, 98, 177
Rapier, inscribed, 447
Ratcliffe (T.) on Gipsy burial?, 76
"Man-a-lost," 218
Sunday shaving, 307
Water-blast, an ailment, 9
Rather, its pronunciation, 146, 252
Rawlins (C. E.) on Mrs. C. Clarke's '' Shakspean
Concordance," 137
Rayner (W.) on " Twas at the Birthnight Ball," 32
B. (D.) on Roger de Quincy, 269
Read (J.) on Rev. Samuel Hardy, 116
Reading, Zinzan Street, 9, 53, 115, 216, 3r>8
Record UfiBce, catalogue of the Records, 349
Redgrave^s " Dictionary of Artists'': James Sayer?
281, 382, 478
Redvers (William de), 6th earl of Devon, 44S
Reeve (Dr. Thos.), "Publike Devotions," 108
Regimental badges, 287, 316
Rendez-vous as an English word, 169, 255, 458
" Retrospective Review," its local oiigin, 150, ISO
Reverend, as a clerical titl(», 144, 280
R. (F.) on fly-leaf inscription?, 167
Wales, first Prince of, 388
Rhodes (Elizabeth), wife of the Earl of Strafford, 40":
Ribbon, or Ribband, its orthography, 75
Rich (Charles), editor of Yak Coll. Magaziiu\ 85
Richardson family, ^S^ 356
Richmond hm\\y of Highhead Castle, Cumb., CO
Richmond (Nicholas), a centenarian, 182
Rideham Bridge, its locality, 409
I N D K
551
I
Met (Cj^rdatiTjsij hia rulea for h^allh, 12'j
igby (lU. Hon* Rich.), Pavmasttsr of the Force*, 38
ing inaenption, 528
ipoii wills, uttfcore words in, 38S
ivers sprinkled with floweri, 85
ix (J.) on " Down with the Mugs,** SOS
Gipsy Christian name*, 249
Wftutoa (CoL Yftlentine), 156
(M, H.) on Bar SioisUr, 18
DADt« /vn*i his transUtoff, 430
'* SibilU OJaletii/* 58
Welsh TefitAinetit, 1 S
BoberU (Samuel) uf Sheffield, «' Two Oq>h»lii/* 173
BobeiUon fumilj, 127, 211, 23^, 393
Bobinson (N, H.) on Powell fiiiDily, 368
Bogero (King of Sicily), his shipwreck ftnd cotiver-
Aion« m
[en (CM on nbbreriftted pkce- mimes, 331
Alexander or Ziozan family, 2^
Tait (Abp.), hia baptizer, ib^
Eoland (Msidame), authenticity of her Memoirs, 1(]3,
255, 411; referencea to, 367
Roll of Arron, Nortbern, temp. Richard IL, 4J2
Boman Cath«>lio landed gentry, temp. Charles II. and
James II., i9
Boman coin, 16S« 2&6
Boman roada in Britain, 84 S
Bos (Mary de), her pedigree, 30, 236
Bos (William de^ of Yolton^ 2SS
Boueii Museum, 3S6
BousseaQ (J. J,), verses upon, 409
Bowaotree, L^ Mountain afth» 134
Bojtee on Clarke family, 67
Bicbardson family, 5S
Sinople, in heraldry, 8S
B. (K.) on Biblical meaning of ** knave,** 155
St, Catherine of Sienna, 453
*• Wappen'd widow/* 314
BuVbingii of inscriptions, 330
Buhrical query, 128, 191
Bule (F,) on "Anecdote Lives,'* 452
Borough English, 456
Byron d birthplace, 3Dd
Clarke's ^* Concordance to Shakapeare,** 138
Epitaplm, curioos, 406
Horace, Sat, I, 3, 415
Huguenot, its derivation, 433
Jt3an of Arc, epitaph on, 465
** La parole,'' Ac, 474
" Macbeth,** music to, &5
Oak, iron in, 426
FaLindrome, 106
Phillips (Sir B.) and the '* Monthly Magaeine/'
SlU
8bak spear tana, 481
Shotten herring, 1 7
Sutton (Thomas), burial place, 455
Tenures, singular, 224
Buasell (W. P.^ on J* T. Serre«, 418
Buflsell (William), Lord, his birthplace, 288
Bmsia, F4mpre8d of, styled " Czanah Majesty,*' 24G
R. (W.) on Daviil Lloyd Uwynrhydoweoi 35
R. (W. F.) on sun-dial inscription, 1B5
B, (W. J,) '« Fresh Waters from a Fresh ^spring." 52
H. (W. R,) on Madame Roland, her Memoirs, 38 7
S
S v&rMUi Z, r>8
S3, on "Angler V A-Hi-lrmt. ' 2S3
Baron etcir', in-ettled, 297
Blood, and priJe i>f birth, }*'^(i
Blue flower of Gbaxeepore, 20 S
China : Cemeteries, 384
Colling wood (Lord)» his family, 177
Con^tantiuian Order of St. George, 352
Drayton (ChTjstopher), 14S
Heraldic Mnganne, 57
Iporao?4 QuamocUt, 328
Iron iree^f 45
Kirby*4» " Wonderful Museum," 4J>6
Lqwis Buildings, Chelsea, 268
Miracle in 105fi, ]6<;
OMulconry, The, 2a
Simpion &, Co., 79
Tarvffe pedigree, 425
Tenurcjj*. singular, 316
Titles of nobility, international, 304
Water- mark in paper, 80
r. on Queen Anne and the Duchess of Marlborough, 27
S. (A*) on the derivation of b^zique, 58
Edward III., a grand-daughter of, 188. 353
St. Catherine of Sienna, 17, 77, 458
St. George, Constantinian Order of, 240, 260, 352 ;
Lfondon churches dedicated to, 241
St. Jamea's Chape), York Street St. JameaV Square*,
406
St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of, 159, 273
St John's Chapel, Bedford Row, 461
St Maftin, his Little Summer, 381; in Welsh, 477,
518
St Michael, London ohnrches dedicated to, 241
Bt MicbaeFs Church *^iii peril of the sea** and iU
English possession, 227
St. Roche, biographical note on, 314
St. S within on Adam^s first wife, 217
Barton (Dr.), his pun. 67
Cob in col fox, Ac, 77
Cromwell's bead, 205
Divining roti, 511
Gate, a provincialism, 496
Hall, Wych, and Salt-works, 312
Latin and English quantity, 526
Wiggfl=Bu&s or cakes, 138
St Triduana, 397
St. Yerdiana, 34
Saints, Llvefl of the EngHub, 229, 293
Sata (G. A,) on Sergeant Both well, 126
** Grimpe *' and ** Hombre,** 150
Salic law, 513
Satis (B. A. de) on Mary Machell Prince, 403
Saliabnry Cathedral and Cromwell, 25f'»
Salt-works : Hall and Wych, 183, 249, 309
Sahburg, epitaph at, 125
Samsell by HarlLngton, Beds, 613
S&ndwich Islands : Princecs Victoria Kamamalu, 110,
175
Sankara, Marhatta, Brahman, a.d, 1717, 129
Sargent (Mrs. Jane Alice), authoress^ 2S
Sarpi (Paolo), judgments of writ^tm on his character.
489
Saugor Post-Bag, 2S7
552
INDEX.
{Index Supplement to t
Qneriee, with No. 89, Jm. U^ltn.
eHoteiaad
KT), uiB moaern repaiauoD, i; wamDa 8
uihoe/' 66 ; and the Balbmtyne press,
Savoy arms, 315
Savvy day = Pay day, origin of the term, 149
Sayers (James), caricaturist, 281, 882, 478
S. (B.) on Shakspeariana, 444
S. (B. 0.) on Bar Sinister, 837
S. (G.) on Painswick yew trees, 455
Schomberg ( ), letter to Lord Shelbume, 329
Schomberg (Armand, Ck)mte de), arms, 495
Scilly Isles, why so called, 129, 194
Sconce, its meanings and derivation, 206, 290, 358
Scotangtendath, a female name, 468
Scotch baronetcy created temp. Charles II., 288, 495
Scotch peers, 222
Scotch standard weights and measures, 368
Scotland, whisky the national drink, 154 ; Arthurian
localities in, 181; its abbeys and castles, 280, 482,
499 ; Lyon Herald office in, 448 ; its division into
shires, t6.
Scots, Society of Ancient, 88
Scots Greys. See Dragoons^ 2nd Royai.
Scott (J. K.) on tomb of John Baliol, 68
Beale : Baillie, &c., 351
Gospatric genealogy, 87
Scott (Sir Walter), his modern repatatioD, 1; Wamba's
song in ** Ivanhoe," 66 ; and the Ba}l|^tyne press,
102 ; songs in
Scotti^ history,
Sculptor poet, reference to, 428
S. (C. W.) on Rider's rules for health, 126
S. (D. M.) on Tennyson's " Dream of Fair Women,"
315
S. (E.), 1807, painter, 308
Seals : materials for impressions of, 288 ; in two parts,
308, 352, 437; of Prince of Livonia, 428 ; of Hali-
fax Grammar School, 468
Sebley, or Sibley family, crest, 69
** Secrets of Devils," &c., quoted, 454
'* Seeing without perceiving," an article on, 149, 254
Sees, ancient English, 47, 117, 291; arms of English,
462,519
S. (E. L.) on coqwes seized for debt, 15
Sele, its meaning, 36
Selkirk pie, 511
Semple, or Sempill, surname, 427
Senex on Kirby*8 "Wonderful Museum," 496
Septingenarianism in the county Tyrone, 246
Serres (John Thomas), marine painter, his memoirs,
289, 364, 397, 410, 418, 457
Serres (Olivia Wilmot), books and pamphlets by her,
and *'The Book," 141, 216, 298, 321, 409; her
assumption of the name of Wilmot, 177; works
about her, 298, 323 ; promissory note, 528
Sevarg on Yirgilius and the Antipodes, 387
Seyton (Mary), attendant on Queen of Scots, 422
S. (F.) on "Flouts, and gibes, and jeers," 168
" Poverty parts Good Company," 112
** Pro Matria " Society. 514
S. (2) (F. G.) on "Butterfly's Ball," 352
Fenton (Lavinia), portrait, 13
Hogarth's " Marriage k la Mode," 52
" Widow of the Wood," 136
S. (G.) on an epigram, 259
S. (H.) on Lord Lyttelton's ghost, 508
S. (H. A.) on "Court Convert," 345
Sbaddongate, origin of the name, 275, 417
Shaftesbury, its abbesses, 168
Shakespeye (Simon), noticed, 146
Shaksp«are Prize Essay, the Harness, 405, 444, 484
Shakspeare (William), derivation of his nAme, 2, 103,
405, 444, 484 ; his portraits, 40 ; Greeners " apslart
crow," 64 ; his death mask, 79 ; and contemporsty
writers, 104 ; and Bacon, 161,246, 350; acriticum
of 1720, 285
Shakspeariana : —
All's Well that Ends Well, Act ii. Sc. 1 : ''Oft
expectation fails," &c^ 64
Hamlet, Act v. Sc. 2 : "He's fat/* 64 ; <* As a
woodcock," &&, 103
Henry VI., Pt. IIL, Act v. Sc. 6 : IHglitHaow,
76,258
Sing John, Act i. Sc. 1 : '* Hadtt thoa rather
&e," 84. Act ii. Sc. 2 : '* Bedlam, have done," 6S
King Lear, Act iii. Sc. 4 : <' Child Roland to
the dark tower came," 329, 476
Love's Labour 's Lost, and Burbage, 3, 104
Macbeth, music to, 95, 298 ; Act i. Sc. 4 : *'Ii
execution done on Cawdor?" &c., 203, 240;
Sc. 3: "Aroint," 134, 277
Measure for Measure, Act L Sc. 1 : Duke^s speech
to Escalus, 63
Merry Wives of Windsor, Act v. Sc. 5: "Bain
paialoes;* 145
Richard II., Act ii. Sc. 2 : <<Thia loyall throne
of kings," &c., 283
Romeo and Juliet in Spain, 863
Tempest, Act iv. Sc. 1 : "The morkiest c^oi," 64,
405 ; " Banks with pioned and twilled brims,"
282, 444
Timon of Athens, Act iv. Sc. 3 : "Wappen'd
widow," 224, 314, 379
Twelfth Night, Act i. Sc. 8 : "Mistrtw Mall's
picture," 283
Two Gentlemen of Verona, Act ii. Sc. 1 : " Hard-
favoured," 64, 103, 155 ; Sc. 4 : a parallel
passage, '* England's Parnassus," 283
Shaving on Sunday, 307
Shaw (A. M.) on the combatants at Perth, 189
"Twa Corbies," 273
Shaw (S.) on Breeches Bible, 296
Byland Abbey, 213
Fly-leaf Inscription, 215
Portuguese coin, 456
Roman coin, 256
Simeon of Durham, 395
" Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs," 457
Sheep "steUing," 206
Sheet anchor = Shoot anchor, 225
Shelley (Percy Bysshe), engraved portraits, 47; and
Balzac, 106 ; " Lines to an Indian Air," 347
Shem on Arthur Maynwaring, 374
" Lucus a non lucendo," 272
*' Shepherd of Hermas "and "The Pilgrim's Progress,"
104, 171
Sheridan (Richard Brinsley) and "The School for
Scandal," 34 ; and Suckling, 244
Sherifis, their orders for executions, 487
Shirley family, 76, 96
Shirley (B. P.) on Shiriey famUy, 96
Shot, a local termination, 149, 285, 855
hotov«^« it* denvaiion, &1, 13S, 1D7, 274
bolten h(>nin^t ite meaning', 17
P.l '* -ttbe artist, 64
dw' . Hi
|l» on >., — ,- , - Situated, 53
WelAh TeAtament, 276
Wordfi pAMtng from one ]*iigtifige to another^ 91
@igD'boiirds» clMsica], 17
^kes (J. C.) on the epithet "Bloody," 859
Simile, m
iSahoufctte {E,), "Id^ G^n^ralo do Gouvemonient
ChinoU," 100, 194
iBUver, pinft. See Pina,
l-Silver star with tnseription, 388, 496
3imon of Darbani, hiii worka, 39o
BitDpBOii family arms, 78
Singleton ( Rev. Dr.) of Bugby, 200
^ nople, in heraldry* 88. 155. 277t 417
Sitnate for Situated, 53, 115
(J.) on Rev. Thomas Gabb, 399
, (J, F.) on the nomenclature of vehicle?, 235
|8b (J* I'* C.) on Latin qtiantity, 417
S|:>eUing reforms, 436
[BkatmR literature, 107, 156, 31 8» 379
1 8keat (W W.) on *' Abulyiementf," 374
Fiold. epelt ffeld, 207
•» Kike," in Chaucer, 111
*' Otherwhiles," 435
Pan: I^anfield, 74
Shakffpeare s name, 444
. Spelliog rerormo^ 2^
[ Stick of eela, 52
*That bcataAkebo." 144
Skelton (John), «ong, " Merry Margaret/' 48#,'f/23
Skipton (H, S.) on Kdward Knid, portrait, 47
8haki>peiire : Bacon, 350
Shelley \T, B.), portrait, 47
Slade, its meaning and derivatioD, 472
51at4i8, lines on Welab, 4S
Sleigh {J.\ on touching for the king*B evil, 426
Kirch's comet of mSO, 66
Sleight, it^ menning and derivation, 472
Slogoii, itg derivation, 2S7, 475
S. iM. B.I on centenariaoiflm, 123
Smith ^M.) on ** The Vagabond/' by Geo. WiUker, 4&7
Qjuitb (J. Hj on " AuJd RoMn Gray." 392
' Uhlogahell," 7
iilh (Jjimf^e), '^Kejected Addresioa,'* 4SC
illli (W; J, B) on Anwyl, a Welsh word, 19
Claymore, an old, 417
Dee (Dr.), bis magic mirror^ 219
Guti|>owder ploU, £19
Kemble (^Father), grave, 238
Leioeater Square equestoian itatue, 292
Plnoe-iuuDes abbreviated, 94
Shakepeare's nune, 4^4
ShakHpeariana, 405
'W K mh penance in a while sheeti 468
Sui ^w) of Bmzenose CuUege, Oxfardj (U
So' ning and derivatinn^ 419
Snec^x;*^ »uj>tir«tilion8, } 396, 429
Holtdaritv, it" incitninsr rr. in, 75
Scl [ Robert Peel, 488
A
Solly <E.) cm Eaatminster, 413 ^^^H
Hyde (Henry) of Purton, 495 ^^^|
Leicester Square equestrian etatue, 458 ^^^H
Marlborough (Duche«« of) and Queen Anne, ^34 ^f
Maynwaring (Arthur), 375 ^^^^|
** Kew State of England/' 475 ^^^^|
Oebeme, Bp. of Exeter, 42^ ^^^H
Pembroke (Lord), his will, 477 ^^^^|
Wande«forde (Sir Chrii^topber}, 370 ^^^H
Somaster family of Painuford, 343, 434 ^^^H
Sotnerville (Maryli, reference to tbe "^ Higher Algebra, ' ^^|
Songs and Ballads : — ^^^H
Annie Laurie, 264, 415 ^^^^|
Auld Hobin Gray, 205, 271, 392, 432 ^^H
Battle of tbe Nile, 369, 518 ^^H
Carmagnole, 8, 169, 318 ^^^H
Darlaaton Bull-bait, 299, 398 ^^^|
George BidWa Oven, 112 ^^^^B
Hope told a flattering tale, 220 ^^^|
I sent my love a letter, 69 ^^^^|
La Napoleon ienne, 306 ^^^^|
Let lords and &ne ladies, 323 ^^^^M
Lord Ellerie,. 247 ^^^|
'* My Queen/' 169, 255 ^^^1
O wha daur middle wi' me, 487 ^^^^|
Ob, Roger! ob, Hoger! 487 ^^^1
Pov<^rty parte good company, 112 ^^^H
.Pray Goody, 220 ^^^M
l^/The Fanner B Son and the Lady Gay, 160 ^^^B
TbreeBaven?, 1S9, 273 ^^^1
Twa Corbica, 189. 273 ^^^H
'Twas at the biHhnigbt ball. 31 ^^^H
Wednesbury Cocking, 299 ^^^H
Wiggleaworth Hunt, 458 ^^^H
Willie was a wanton wag, 264, 412 ^^^H
Souls of the dead eq^tal fo angelR, 1 56 ^^^H
Soua, ita pronunciation, 368, 415, 438 ^^^H
**Souter Johnny," original figure of, 828, 358, 437 ^^^H
Soothoole (Johanna), meeting houses of ber follower^ ^M
68, 194 ^^H
Sp. on Archer family, 196 ^^^^|
Edgar family of Scotland, 136 ^^^|
Lawrence fsAiuly in HantSi 285 ^^^^t
Lotoei, the sacred, 461 ^^^^|
Sneexing auperttitionii, 193 ^^^^|
Taaffe epiUph, 65 ^^^1
*' Temple" brig, of London, 2S ^^^H
Bpagooletto 4 Joseph Ribera), wotkp, 109 ^^^H
Spanish legenda^ 512 ^^^^H
Spelling refonnsi, 29, 64, 74, 123, 143, 163, 231, S60, H
277, 436, 478 ^^B
Speriflod on geographical qoery, 437 J^^^H
Gorge (Sir Arthur), 209 ^^^H
Women npon the stage, 248 ^^^^|
Spurrell (W.) od Rahel and Rachel, 198 "^^^1
L, (R.) on "TestamenU of tbe Twelve Patriarchs,'* 996 ^^^H
S. 1(H. C.) on Mrs. Mary Somervillo, 135 ^^^H
S. (S. D/l on '* Butterfly's Ball,'' 418 ^^H
a (a B.) on Bailey's PielionarT, 258 ^^H
8, (V,) on Antony Stewart, miniature piunter, 448 ^^^H
Staffonl t J. S.) on Oliver Cromwell, 466 ^^^1
'* Defender of tbe Faith/' 206 ^^^H
Stamird (John de», bell-founder, 485 ^^^
554
INDEX.
{Index SnpBlemcnt to IKe ririj
Qaalcs.trlth Xa. Of. Jm. 1
Staffordshire: "The Widow of the Wood," 88, 186
Stage, women upon, 248
Stames (Alderman Sir Wm.), early occupation, 124, 194
Standard weights and measures of Scotland, 368
Stanley of Birmingham, his tunea, 52
Starkey (Capt. Benjamin), of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, 46
Stars, their effect on gazers, 809, 454
"Stealing" and "steUing," 206
Stell=To place, set, in old Scotch, 206
Stephen (King), his death and burial, 368
Stephens (F. C.) on the Pretender in England, 482
Sterne (Laurence), as a poet, 1 7
Stevens (C. L. M.) on £arl of Moreton, 55
Stevens (William), ship-builder, 449
Stewart (Antony), miniature painter, 448
Stewart (Capt. Francis), grandson to the £arl of Both-
well, 126
Stewarts and FitzaUns, 482
Stockport, carriages at, 1 28
Stone (Nicholas), deed of conveyance to, 465
Stone (W. G.) on Boman coin, 256
Stoneleigh church bell inscription, 360
Storr (F.) on Browning's *• Good News from Ghent to
Aix," 17
Whole, its etymology, 37 •
Words passing from one language to another, 91
Story (W. W.), sculptor, published portrait of, 48
Strafford (Thomas Wentworth), Earl of, bis third wife,
468
Strangeways (Sir Thomas), 1 6
Stratton (T.) on Clachnacudden stone, 214
Motto, ChatUn clan, 213
Scotch peers, 222
Slogan : Kelpie : Glenullin, 475
Strauss (David Friedrich), replies to his "Old Faith
and New," 148
Strawberry leaves, as a decoration to coronets, 120
Streel, an Irish provincialism, 105, 174
Street arabs in 1816, 4G5
Stuart, Hoyal House of, its origin, 067, 496
Stuart and Sutherland, the Houses of, 85, 174
Stuart (Charles Edward), in England at Queen Anne's
death, 408, 432, 526,
Stubbs (Prof.), his * * Constitutional History of England "
and the bishopric of Exeter, 304, 42 G
S. (T. W. W.) on the blessed thistle, 526
" When York to Heaven," 47
Suckling (Sir John) and Sheridan, 244
Suffolk charters, Le Deneys a surname in, 188, 259
Suffolk words, 326, 454
Summer, the Little, 881; its Welsh name, 477, 518
Sunday shaving in 1729, 307
Sun-dial inscriptions, 25, 185
Sunflower, its Italian name, 17; turning to the sun, 172
Surnames, English, 157, 199 ; WeUh "Ap," 157, 257
Surrey provincialisms, 812
Sutherland and Stuart, the Houses of, 85 , 174
Sutton (C. W.) on cremation, 184, 220
Sutton (Thomas), his burial-place, 409, 455, 492
Swainson (C.) on the bittern, 77
Rivers sprinkled with flowers, 35
Swale family, 78
Swans, their musical qualities, 16
Sweeting (W. D.) on Party, in the sense of a person, 521
Welsh parish registers, 428
Swift family, 33, 333, 416
Swift (Sir Francis \ his ancestry, 268, 333, 416
Swift (Richard), sheriff of London, 338, 416, 438
Swifte (E. L.) on ballooning, 366
Caroline (Qiieen\ 274
Irish executions, 293
Swift fionily, 83, 333, 416
Swifte (Isabella) on Major Weir, 278
Sword, introduction of the curved into Europs^ 248 ;
an old one, 447
S. (W.) on words in an old MS , 368
S. (W. S.) on " Providence on the nde,** fta, 452
Symbol in stained glasf, 268, 834, 486
Symes (J.) on lunar rainbow, 92
T. (A.) on " Built here for his envy," 217
"Poverty parts good company,** 112
Taaffe family, 65, 425
Taaffe (Stephen), epitaph, 65
Tablets, memorial, of Society of Arts, 106, 155, 257, 524
Tait (Abp.), his baptism, 486
"Taking a sight, '^ not a modem costom, 166, 234,
255, 280, 299
Talleyrand (Prince), his wife, 300
'* Tam o'Shanter," original figure of, 828, 358, 487
Tamworth parish registers quoted, 144
Tangier, illustrated work on, 287
Taunton family arms, 347
Taunton (W. G.) on Latimer : Amnde), 88
Taunton arms, 347
Tauntoniensis on Bow=> Bridge, 467
Tavern sign couplets, 98
Tax on " tea, chocolate, and wax," 349
Taylor (J.) on church armour, 388
Fuller (Thomas), works of, 521
Tintem Abbey, 96
Taylor (John) publisher, noticed, 438
Taylor (Robert), replies to his "Diageas," 148
Taylor (W. H.) on 17th century tokens, 433
T. (C.) on Shakspeariana, 64
T. (E.) on "I sent my love a letter," 69
Tea, how made about 1660, 57
Tea-table, anonymous lines on, 511
Telegraph prophecied in 1636, 483
Teme Valley provincialisms, 197
Templars, their badges, 110, 173, 318; their ordi*
nation, 173
*' Temple," wreck of the brig, 28, 96
Temple (Sir William), "Of Poetry," 186
Tenison (Abp. Thomas) at Cottenham, 828, 396
Tennyson (Alfred), "The Miller's Daughter," 13;
parallel paasages, 25 ; allusion in hia " Dream of
Fair Women," 229 ; passage in " The Poet," 288, 335
Tenures, singular, 224,316
Terrella explained, 326, 352
Tertullian on "The Shepherd of Hennas," 104, 171
Testament, Welsh, 18, 276
" Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs," 396, 457, 525
Tew (E.) on Borough English, 456
Bunyan'8 compeers and predecessors, 171
B^land Abbey, 213
Cicero, passage in, 135
Col- in col-fox, 179
Corpses entombed in walls, 185, 298, 398
I^w eopftliDmit to the N<ir(«f ft&d l
INDEX.
ooo
454
Tew (E.) on Fire, purgation by, 24
Irii, tbe Iflknd, 211
j^B ** Looua A noti lucendo,^* 41 S
^m Mftrmge of tho Doge and the Adriatic,
H l^ilton : *' The grim feature/* §73 i
^^B^^ Kaam&n the leper, 25 9
^^^Ko&UmdJi, its moaning', 153
^^^^^H Fiagal, Its derivAtiuti^ 1D7
^^^H Preaier John, 32
^^H Buliric&l query, 123
^^m Edllj Iilet, 194
^^^^B ScoDce, iia etymology, 201
^^^^B Sees, EDglifih, 117; Anna o*; 510
^^^^^B Sinople, in heratdry, 277
^^^^^ T«nipUrB anci Hospi tidier?, 173
^m ** The end justifies the means,'* 420
^^^H ** Unaccui^tomed aa I am/' jco«, 417
^^ Walffinghum ^Tbomaa) and Sophocles, 405
V WycUf ( Robert de), 52
ThAckeray {W. M.), an uooonscioBf blunder, o66 ;
two references In bia works, 408
TbankF, Bingalar card of, 385
Theatrea, private, 85
Thcrf-cake, ita meaning, 54
Thifetle, legend of the bleaBed, 43, 95, 198, 239^ 526
T. (n, M.) on Littleton family, 408
Tbomaa (E. C.) on Latin and Greek rerae, 337
ITbomaa (Moy) on '^ What ia a pound I " 471
Thoma (W. J.^ on **The Arcbieologicai Epiatlo to
Dean Mdlea,'' £70
Ceutenarianiam, 122, 182
Charlea Mftcklin, hia age, 245
Serros (Olivia), worka of^ 141, 321, 409
Tliomson (George) and BarDa^ 407
Tborbam (R.) on Paul Joneaa action, 2^Q
Thorn, a curioua, 349, 516
Thombury (W.) on "r»nk riderp," 38
Threadueedle Street, the Old Lady of, 229, 2D0
Ticbbome (Dowager Lady), autograph nutep, 45
Tied= Bound, 326
TiUey (H, T.) on royal beada on belln, 318
ITimbs (John), an appeal on bia behalf, 320, 340, 360
** Times -* newapaper, Lettert by an EngliahmaD, 214,
45S
Tindal (Matthew), LL*D,, controversial worka, 175,
195 ; noticed in the MQHtlthj MagaiiM, 4S3
Tintem Abbey, accounts of, 28, 75, U6, 237
Titlef, Britifch and Continental, 23, 95, 195, 351 ;
episcr^pal, 130; clerical, 29, 144, 280; intercattoua},
304
T. (.L) on Rigby, payinaater of the forces, 38
T. (M.) on marriagea in Lent, 367
Tokens, aeventeenth century, 26t>, 36 S, 433
Tomiinaon (G, D.) on heraldic query, 35
Tooth and egg= Britannia metal, 161>, 255
tTopay-turvy, ita derivation, 288, 384, 477
Totnea barony, 308, 494
Totnaa (Jobel de), biography, 268, 334, 418
Toarncur (Cyril), "The Second Maid'a Tragedy,'' 405
Towera'a " lllustratiaBa of Prophecy," 448
Town*a Hall for Town Hall, 258
Tract, a contraction of tractation, 278
Trabem (G. M.) on Blaea'a Atlaa, 415
Trant (W.) on Dr laaac Watts, 107
Travel, critique on booka of, 66
Tr*2t'a, iron, 45
TregoBse (Tbomaa), bia *' Life and Death,*' 341, 4y3
Tre lawny (C.) on ** Twaa at the birth night ball," 31
Trevelyan (W. C.) on Sir Henry Sheere, 377
Trinimfcr (K.) on Falconet, the artiat, S
Tristram (Sir), Treatiao of Hunting, 488
Truelove (£,) on a portrait of Tbomaa Paine, 188
Truasel (C.) on Bridgford family, 368
T, (S. W.) on origin of the name Uugaenot, 306
Liturgiea of Edward Vr, 22S
Tufnell (Cttpt, Edw.), niaaon toWeatminster Abbey^87
Tun bridge VVelK Patty Moon's Walk, 107
Tunatead Church, Norfolk, 409
Tnpper (J. L,) on CatuHua : '* Hoc ut dixit," &c., 430
Tureen spelt Ttrrine, 1S5, '1!>^, 39S, 457
Torkeya introduced into EngLand, 105, 214
Turner (R. S,) on the '' Vengeur,*' 34
Tutors, travelling, uf the 17tb century, 243, 2^)1, 327
Tuttle (G. F.) on Etlwarda of America, :^93
Tutt]e\a W,) on Edward Cran6eld, 307
T. (W.), BalUda by. 249
Twee<lledum and Tweedledee, a ITrencb vyraion, 485
T. (W. G.) on Kejjtuftld, Count de Valletorta, 368
TwL«leton ^Hon. Edward), death of, 318
T- (W. M.) on **The Butterfly'* Ball," 45S
TzAr. See Czar.
U
Ublogahen, ita meaning and orthography, 7
Cdal (J. S,) on " Autieat," a military term, 132
ChriattiiajH mummera in Doraetshirp, 505
Shak^peariana, 4S4
Um©te (Sir Gcmrd), Hfe^nd family, 149, 255, 412
Ulster, use of Enjf^liBb worda in, 426
Ulster worda and phrase*, 98
Uttlma aa a Chriiitmn name, 89, 452
Urabra on Timti^ Letters by an Engliahmau, 21 4
Uneda on Butler a '* Iludibra?, ' 326
Piomingo, '*Tlie Savage," 95, 379
HciUnd (Ma^Jame), autobiograpby, 168
Uunone (J. C.) on worda paeaing from one language
to another, 90
Unuone (T. C.) on Dr. Prieatlcy*a matctrtalifim, 126
Babel or Rachel, 133
Summer, the Little, 477
Uri7 (John), hia edit, of Chaucer, S81
U. (T, C.) on Grewe=Gretk, 856
Thorn, curioua, 349
" VViwte-riff," 426
Yew treea at Painawick, 365
Ut^pia^ bibliography of, 252
Ulrura on Liddell w Wcsteiton, 12S, 175
Vallt^torta (Reginald), Count de, 368, 414, 431
Vallombroftian nun, 34, 95, 154
VaniK^mer (Paul), portrait of Lord Bacon, 161
Vanghan (IL M.) on Dr W. Vaughan and Sir H,
Halford, 1'3
Taugban (Wm.), physician, and Sir H. Halford, US
Vayrea, in canton of Libourne, Gironde, 146
V. (E.) on George Colman, 132
'^Gueaaea at Troth," 278
556
INDEX.
{Index 8appl«aB«Bt to tb« Note
Qo«ries, with Ko. SB, Jmn. It. u
V. (E.) on "Put to buck," 76
Walford (E.) on an epigram, 367
Rubrical query, 191
"Kuper's": a tax, 849
"Widow of the Wood," 136
Walker (Geoige), descendants o^ 247
Vehicles, their nomenclature, 148, 235, 398, 526
Walker (George), " The Vagabond," 406, 497
" Yengeur," Btory of her sinking, 84
Walker (John), his "Pronouncing Dictionary,"
Venice, Doge of, marriage with the Adriatic, 287, 454,
252
478
Walmesley (Richard), inquired after, 248
Venus, Transit of, 205, 274, 801, 385, 339
Walsingham (Thomas) and Sophocles, 405
Venus of Milo, 60
Wandesforde (Sir Christopher), Lord Cattleoo
Vergih'us and the Antipodes, 887
827, 370
Vervain against melancholy, 886
Ward (C. A.) on Martha Bradley of Hampi
Vestments of ecclesiastics at St John*8 College, Ox-
Heath, 513
ford, 441 ; in Lambeth Palace Libraiy, ib.
Buddha, its meaning, 215
Veto, the Royal, 426, 476
" Built," used by Milton, 182
V. (F. J.) on Crack : Wag, 98
Byron : "Siege of Corinth," 893
Cricket, name of the game, 266
Chelsea Botanic Gardens, 463
<*God bless the mark," 835
Christian names, double, 226
"Had be,'» in Shakspeare, 84
Cipher writing, 805
"Mars his sword," 2
CoUingwood (Lord), family, 96
Cuper^s Gardens, 394
Shakspeariana, 64, 103
"Topsy-turvy," its derivation, 288, 477
Viccars (John), Oriental schohur, birthplace, 226
" Deinology," 68
Drury House, 188
Victoria as a surname, 285
Greyhound, its derivation, 855
Griffinhoofe, the name, 397
Victoria (Queen), her baptismal names, 840
VieuviUe, family name, 85
"Guesses at Truth," 89
Viles (E.) on Shakspeariana, 484
Irish bulls, 188
ViUcnage, 52, 178
Laplace, phrase attributed to, 447
Villers: De Villiers, names and families, 22S, 294,
Leicester Square statue, 91
524
"Macbeth," music to, 298
Vincent (J. A. C.) on Edward Maria WingEeld, 478
Vincent family, 149
Parallel passages, 345
"Relation of England," 104
Vinci (Leonardo da), his grave, 180
Sculptor poet, 428
Violanti, Yolante, lolantha, and lolant, 269
Shakespeare : Bacon, 161
Violetta, a Christian name, 237
Virgin, a proper name, 248, 415
Society of Arts' tablet*, 155, 524
Streel, a provincialism, 174
Visage family, 189
Water-blast explained, 55
Visaker family, 189
Zinzan Street, Reading, 9
Voltaire (F. M. A.), verses upon, 409
Warren (C. F. S.) on covered altar- rails, 6*22
V. (V.H.I.L.LC.I.) on epitAphs, 125, 485
Forbes (Arthur), of Brux, 308
Christian name changed, 295
Christy collections, 74
Parallel passages, 464
Churchill (J.), M.P. for Newtown, 173
Epitaph, 337
Printers' errors, 886
Pronunciation in singing, 357
Haytianpoet, 156
"Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs," 525
Herrick (Robert), verses, 521
Wycherly and Bums, 158
Jesus, contraction for, 437
y, termination in plaice-names, 455
Knurr and Spell, 133
Latin and Greek verse, 391
W
LiddelU. Westerton, 157
TT substituted fori?, 95
Marriages in Lent, 495
Wade (C.) on Ban well Court, Somerset, 88
Newlyn surname, 53
Wag, its meaning and derivation, 98
Phuse-names abbreviated, 93
Wait (S.) on unsettled baronetcies, 15
" Poverty parts good company," 112
Wake (H. T.) on a ring inscription, 528
Rubrical query, 191
Wakeling (G.) on a water-colour drawing, 388
Staffordshire : "The Widow of the Wood,"
Walcott (M. E. C.) on abbeys and castles in Scotland,
Stuart, Royal House of, 496
497
Templars and Hospitallers, 173
Armour in churches, 494
Valletorta (Reginald), Count de, 4U
Arms of the English sees, 462
Words passing from one language to another
" As sound as a roach," 314
Yange Monday, 74
Dominicals, 317
" Washing an apron," its meaning, 387
Paten inscriptions, 27
Washington medal, 308, 375
Sees, ancient English, 291
Waste-riff, a provincialism, 426
Tintem Abbey, 75
Watch papers, 47, 94
Waldeck (Count), his longevity, 182
Water-blast, an aihuent, 9, 55
Wales, the first Prince of, 388
Water-colour drawing, anonymous, ZS8
INDEX.
557
W»ter tnarka in paper, SO, 04, 136, 140, 357
Waterloo, Napoleon's scaffold ai| 316
Waterloo in titJal, i7
WfttU (Dr. Isaac)| de«oription uf the fiittt miracle, 107j
170
Waaton (Cul. Valentin**), the regicide, 110, 156
W. {A. W,) on J. H, BeUa^B, 3U
W. (C. A.) on the bittern, 77
W. (0, L.) un will of Sir Lewis Clifford, 514
We&lo (W. H. J.) oa FlemingB at Norwich, 512
MimMile DotinchemenBe, 467
Weather Bayings. 8ee Folkhtx.
Web , on AmericAn States, 526
Webb (T.) on *' Memoirs of Civil War in Hereford-
ahire " 448
Webb (T. W.) on T. Allington, 4&7
Coronershipa, private, 129
Kembltf (Father), his band, 92
Swift family, 78
TutcptarB and Hoipitallers, 110
Zinzan Street, Heading, 216
Wedgwood (H.) on "As eound aa a roach,'^ 525
Proat» a neuter verb, 114
Weir (Mftjor) Edinburgh tnagiciao, hia bouse, 188, 273
WtfHeiley (Mar^^aifl of) and Lord Comwallis, 24
W^elah registers, abbreviation in, 423
Welsh slatee, lines on, 48
^elah TeBt&ment, IS, 276
^entworth family, 367
entworth on Chattan clan motto, 14 (J
Wentworth (Sir Thomas) of Bretton Hall, 140, 213
Wesley ^John), his Abridgment of Thomas k Kempis,
269, 800
West (William), editor of the AkUn€ Mafjazim, 455
Westminster Abbey, repUcemetit of the gravo'Stoues,
160
** Westminster Drollery,'' reprint, 360
W, (G. E.) on LuciiS, a grt-ve, 205
W. {G. W.) on Sir Christopher Wandesforde, 370
W. (H.) on Buda : Ofen : Pe!»th, 36
W. (H* A.) on miaaal query, 267
Whele, meaning and use of the word, 37
Whisky, the national drink of Scotland, 151
Whistfeis, the Seven. See Fofkhre.
Whiston (W.) on Byron's " Siege of Corinth,*' 177
Whitbrooke (Sir John) of Bridgnorth, 8^
White (G.) on bells of St. Martin^a^ Kpsom, 45
Byron's birthplace, 268
WTiite (Gilbert), MS. sermon, 423
White (R.) on Rev. Thomas Gabb, 438
W*hy, aa an ex^>tetive, 213
Wick, in place-names. 8ee ITycA.
Wiggi — Buns or caka, 188, 17S
** Wild Irishroan," mail from Lotidoa to Holyhead, 188
WiU, a poetical, 226
William I., medal, 67, 154
Williamfl (S, H.) on AAtucious, for Aitnte, 338
Christian names, double, 294
"ChriBtianity as Old as the Creation," 195
"Deinology," 155
Dodd (Dr. Wm.), 14
Domingo Gonsales, 200
Dims Scottiti t " guodUbeta/ 30
Eye-glasses, MiDgle, 50
Falconet the artiiftt 54
WiUiams (8- H.) on Fletcher, Bp. of Worcester, 293
Gabb (Rev. Thomas), 333
Gobet {Pierre^C^saireJoaeph), 452
Gunn (Charles Haios), 151
Hardy (Rev. Samuel), 116
♦'Hodibras,** 114
Judges on circuit, 27
Le Comte'a " Mtfmoires dela Chine," 234
Like, as a conjunction, 217
Mddford (William), 216
Muae, a ** gentleman," 316
Petronius Arbiter, 338
Rendesvoiis as an English word, i58
Shakspeare Prize Essay, 444
Silhouette (Etienne de), 104
Virgin, a man s name, 415
Wingfield (Sir Edward Maria), 73
Willow pattern pkte, 69, 114
Wilson (Sir Robert), his note-bouk quoted, 63
Wilson (Thomas), M.P. for Stratford, 1812, 149
Wing (W.) on Cromwell, and the almanack, 155
'* Letters of Sir Thomas Fitzosbome,*' 408
Willow pattern plato, 114
Wioi^'field (Sir Edward Maria), his ChristiaKi name, 73,
237, 478
Wink, in place-names, 408, 455
Winters (W.) on British Museum dnpUoate*, 157
FuUee (Robert), his burial, 229
Luson family, 32
" Piljf rim's Progress," 50
Sneezing superstitions, 353
Button (Thomas), burial-place, 400
Walmealey (Richard), 248
W^inton earldom : De Quincis, 129| 170
Wish, a curious, 468
Witchcraft in Scotland, 83
W, (J.) on ** Battle of the Nile," 369
W. (J. W.) on Charles I. aa apoet, 116
** Guesses at Truth," 278
Parallel pasages, 25, 106, 145
Society of Arts* tablets, 257
Temple (Sir William), 186
Young's *' Night Thoughta," 15
W- (M.) on Mrs. Wood and *' The Authentic Records,"
127
Wollaston (Rev. William), *' Religion of Nature De«
lineated,^' 315
Wobwy (Card. Thomas) and the living Lydd, 148
Women, an American eulogy oo, 147, 433^ 480 ; upon
the stage, 248
Wood (Ml*.) and **The Authentic Records,** 127
Woodcut, earliest dated, 49
Woodward (J.) on arms of English sees, 619
Banwell court, Somerset, 254
Byron arms, 513
Columbus, burial-place and arms, 152
F.KR.T. in the Savoy arms, 315
Lancastro (Counts of), 419
Mark (Count Von der). 3C8
Medalof William L, 67
Nobility granted to foreigners, 51
Order of St. John, 273
Seal of Prince of Livoma, 428
VUlen: VUliere, 294
Violante, lolantha, k^, 269
558
INDEX.
{Index SapDlcmeat to the Notee and
Qaeiies, with No. «5, Jan. 18« 1873.
WooUey (F. 0. S.) on abbreviated place-names, 94
Wooton registers, oo. l^eds, notice of Holland, 186
Word formati<»i, arbitrary or conventional, 216
Words pasnng from one language to another, 90, 136,
386, 41T, 438 ; ohan^fes prodnoed bj local dialectd,
197, 836
Wordsworth (Wifiiam), <'The Excursion " burlesqued,
9 1 epitaph' on Mrs. Qnilldnan, 10 ; allusion to witty
rhymes, ih.; and Hc^g, 9, 157; and Mary of
Battermere, 47, 114, 175
Works, New, suggested by authors, 385, 496
W. (R.) on "Put up with it," 888
Wren (Sir Christopher) and Freemasonry, 280
W. ( W.) on Adam meanii^g north, south, &o., 76
W. (W. T.) on the bidm*s piece, 512
"John JasperV Secret," 526
Wyat, Wyatt, and Wood families, 108, 155, 254
Wyatt or Wyat family, 87
Wych, Hall, and Salt-works, 183, 249, 809
Wycherly (William) and Bums, 81, 158
Wydif (Robert de), enrolment, 52, 178
Wylie (C.) on "Anecdote Lives," 865
Drury House, 75
Prury Lane, " Private house " in, 85
Frye (Thoa), engravings, 17
Illustrations, 444
Ldcester Square statue, 91
Mayn waring (Arthur), 418
X. on Shropshire wills, 828
Xavier (St Francis), tombstone of a nephew of, 448
XIX. on Visage and Yisaker fii^milies, 189
X. (J. P.) on " Fruitless Enquiry," 865
X. (Z. Y.) on Cowper : Trooper, 276
Y, the termination in place-names, 820, 455, 523
Y. on Tom quad at Christ Churdi, 168
" Yale CoUm M^ine," 85
Yarmouth, Great, its history, 219
"Yelverton Marriage Case," ito illustrations, 466
Yeux, its derivation, 101, 174, 287, 898, 457
Yew trees at Painswick, 865, 455
Yllut on En^h translations, 334
Young (Dr. Edward), his " Night Thoughts *' quoted
15
Zinzan &mily, 26, 53, 216, 358, 513
Zinzan Street, Reading, 9, 53, 115, 21G, 358
Zornlin family, 269
Z. (X. Y.) on Shakespeare*8 name, 103
Z. (Z.) on "The Butterfl/s Ball," 327
Caroline (Queen), 225
Coroner, its derivation, 59
Jourdan family, 113
Illustrators of popular booka, 511
Sword, the curved, 248
" Whale's JubUee," 518
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