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CONTENTS.— N*. 1^ 

NOTES t —JoltiDgt or George Yerlue : ^VM Holbein, abak. 

spewe, Milton, and Thomas and Abrafcion Blmon, 1~ The 

Registers of the Stattoners' Corapany, S^V^quin's " C?hilr 

drvn of The«^" 6— Fopulaltou of BuranMm Citi^C 

BfncoB NoTSs : ~ Lost Pastan of AristoUe '«*fiii laitai 
Kinss — Porsoii and Adam Clarke — SUps of the NoveHsts 
— Verduffo — Wolfey*8 Repentance— Cniffacter of Bishop 
Jeremy Taylor— An Bngl&h Giant, 6. 

QUERIES:- Heraldic Jeu d'Esprit, 7 — GwaHenis Diaee- 
nns. Ao^ a — " Autobiosraphsr of Catherine 11." — Itinarary 
of Charles 1.— Cheney of Pinhoe— Cleaning old Glass — 
Deeds with Strings and Seals — Edward I. and Llewelyn 
Prince of Wales— The Blstree Mnrder — The fbrbldden 
Gauntlet — Mr. Gordon — Gun Query — HerakUo — Gome^ 
lius Holl|uid— Leominster Notoa and Queries — " List of 
Justices of the Peace.*' Ac* — Lamlnas-— Manor Law — Msy 
Poles — Queries on Oldham — Cardinal Pole — Rinf Query 
—John Stocker — Christopher Strumelius— Warwick and 
Spencer Families, 9. 

QuEBiEs WITH Answbrs : — Bu^h of Napoleon 11. — G. 
Higgins*s Works — - The Etonian " —Jewish Marriagee, 12. 

REPLIES : — MutOation and Destruction of Sepulchral 
Monuments, \l — The Father of Catherine Shorter, Lady 
Walpole, 14 — Fair Rosamond, lb, — Calderon and Lone de 
Vega, 15— Dr. George Rust: Bishop Jeremy Taylor — 
Changes of the Moon — Bishop and Divine— Hall's " Sa- 
tires " — Newton Motto — Raising of lAxarus — Trenchers 
Quadrant -.I'amberwen— Chaplains' Scarfii— EuphrutM 
or Euphrfitee — Fordyoe Castle, Ac, 15. 

Notes on Books. 


[The following notes of George Yertueb the celebrated 
engrayer, are extracted from his manntcript colleetions 
illustrative of the Fine Arts, purchased of his widow by 
Horace Walpole on August 92, 1758^ and now in the Na- 
tional Library. These volumes not only contain the re* 
marks of Yertne on the history and art of Painting, 
Sculpture, Architecture, and Engraving, so admirably 
condensed by Walpole in his AnecdottM of PainHng in 
England; but are also filled with biographical and his- 
torical anecdotes of celebrated artists and others, which 
have never been printed. In his literary pursuits George 
Yertne was honoured with the iViendship and patronage 
of the most eminent noblemen and literati of his day { 
whilst his private character appears to have been in the 
faigheet degree amiable, modest, and exemplary. The 
inscription on his monument in the dmsters of Westmin- 
ster Abbey records his claim upon the veneration of pos- 
terity, as the first who devoted a life of unremitted 
industry and seal, combined with scrupnlons veracity, to 
the iilni tration and promotion of the Fine Arts in Eng- 

** With manners gentle, and a grateful heart, 
And all the genius of the graphic art t 
His ikme will each succeeding artist own. 
Longer by far than monuments of stone." 
George Yertne was bom in London, 1684; and died on 
the 24tb of July, 1756.] 

IIaks Holbbin. —The present Robert Earl of 
Oxford has often heard his father say, that once 

oil. a time be was going oyer London Bridge, mid 
\mkig overtaken in a haatj diower of rabi be 
8let)ped into a goldsmith's shop to be under cover 
iu|iil it was fair. The master of the shop perceiY- 
hig him to be a person above the common, civillv 
entreated him to walk in, and be seated in bis 
parlour, where he took particular notice of apiece 
of painting that pleased him well. He therefore 
asked the master of the house if he would part 
with it. "Willingly,** he answered, "if loould 
meet with a good chapman for it.** It was a pio 
ture of Hans Holbein and his family, who had 
lived in thb house, and had painted this picture, 
and left it there. Therefore, Uiis gentleman (Sir 
Edward Harley), offered him loS. for the pic* 
ture, which this man promised he should havo, 
but desired -before he did entirely part with it, 
that he might show it to some persons. Shortly 
after occurred the Fire of London, when it was 
destroyed. It was painted on a krge wainscot 

Hans Holbein, father to the famous Hans Hol- 
bein, painter, likely ^ he was here in England, 
there beingin the Boyal collection of limnings one 
picture of King Henry Yll,, and another of Frinoe 
Arthur, Prince Henry, and Maraaret their sbter. 
Margaret about three years old." 

Shakspbabe. » Mr. Betterton told Mr. Keck 
several times that the picture of Shakspeare be 
had was painted by Mr. John Taylor, a ^yer 
who acted for Shakspeare ; and this John Taylor 
in his Will left it to Sir William Davenant ; at 
whose death Mr. Betterton bought it, and at bis 
death Mr. Keck bought it, in whose possession it 
now is [1719]. These following verses to put 
under the! plate of Shakspeare are made by Mr. 
Keck, and purposely at my request : -^ 

** Shakspeare I such thoughts inimitable shine, 
Drest m thy words, thy fancy seems Dirlne. 
Tis Nature's mirror, where she views each grace, 
And all the various features of her face.'* 

1 Yertue's informant of this anecdote was Humphrey 
Wanley. This picture is alluded to by Walpole {Auee* 
dotet, i. 86., ed. 1S49.) There was also one of Holbein, hi« 
wife, four boys, and a girl, at Mereworth Castle, Aent, 
which Womum conjectures may be a repetition of the one 
said to be destroyed in the Great Fire. Or (he adds) 
may it not bo the same picture rescued ? 

* Unlikely. — Marg. note, probably by Walpole. 

s "There were several Holbeins by name in England 
about this time ; but whether painters or not there is no 
account in the Office of Wills."— ff^afyiol^^s MS. noU» 
Consult also his AnecdotMofPainiiy, I 49. 66.. ed. 1849. 
We learn from Zedler ( Univenal Lexicon, vol. xiii. col. 
608.), that "Hans Holbein, a celebrated painter, was 
bom in Augsburg, anno 1498. His father, who foUowed 
the same profession, took him to Basle, and instracted 
him in it with extraordinary diligence." Hegner (Hang 
Holbein der JUngere, 8vo. 1827.) also informs US, that ths 
celebrated painter wss born m 1498, some sav a few 
years earlier, and died in London of the plague m 1654 } 
but Mr. Black's discovery of the will, supposing the tea 

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Milton. — August 10, 1721. I saw Mrs. Clarke, 
the only surviving daughter. [Deborah] of Milton 
the poet, who is now seventy years old. I carried 
with me several portraits of his picture. I like- 
wise carried with me a painting in oil by R. 
Walker, but she knew it not, and believed it not 
to be his picture. Some years ago Mr. Addison 
desired to see her, and declared as soon as she 
came into the room, that he really believed she 
was Milton's daughter, for as much as he could 
retain of his likeness by several pictures he had 
seen of him, she was much like them. I really 
found, by comparing the features, that she much 
resembled the print graved by Faithorne, and a 
crayon drawing and others done from that print 
She told me her mother-in-law, if living near 
Chester, had two paintings of her fkther — one 
when he was a lad and went to school ; and 
another when he was about twenty years of age, 
which were all the pictures she remembers to 
have seen of him in the family, having been by 
her step- mother turned abroad into the world, 
and went into Ireland, where she was when her 
father died, and was there married. This was 
Milton*s youngest daughter by his first wife, the 
one that used to read to him in seven languages ; 
but he could never see her, he being blind be- 
fore she was born.^ There was a grave stone for 
Milton in St. Giles's, Cripplegate, where he was 
buried ; but in repairing the church lately, they 
have taken it away and it is lost, though there 
are people that know perfectly the spot of ground 
where it stood, which was shown to me. Upon 
that grave-stone was only cut J. M.* 

Thomas and Abraham Simon. — Thomas Sim- 
monds [Simon], engraver in the Mint, London, 
was brought into that service by Sir Edward 

tator to be the Holbein, sbowA that the great painter died 
as early as 1543. Hegner aleo tells us that his father 
Hans llolbein was likewise a painter. 

^ Warton has furnished the following account of this 
daughter iu a note on the poet's Nuncupative Will : — 
**Deborahf the third, nnd the greatest favorite of the 
three, went over to Ireland as companion to a lady [of 
the name of Merian] in her father's life-time; and after- 
wards married Abranam Clarke, a weaver in Spltalfields, 
and died, aged seventy-six, in August 1727. This is the 
daughter that used to read to her father, and was well 
known to Richardson and Professor Ward : a woman of 
a very cultivated understanding. She was generously 
patronised by Addison, and by Queen Caroline, who sent 
her a present of fifty guineas. She had seven sons and 
three daughters.** 

^ Aubrey says, ** Milton was buried at the upper end 
in St. Gyles*s, Cripplegate, chancell,** and that ** When the 
two steppes to the Communion-table were raysed (Nov. 
1721) his stone was removed." His remains were not 
honoured by any other memorial in Cripplegate Church 
till the year 1793 ; when by the munificence of the late 
Mr. Whitbread, an animated marble bust, the sculpture 
of Bacon, under which is a plain tablet, recording the 
dates of the poet*s birth and death, and of his father*8 
decease, was erected in the middle aisle. 

Harley, who was Warden of the Mint in the time 
of King Charles I. Simmonds, a most ingenious 
artist, as a multitude of his works do testify bj 
the coins in Oliver CromwelFs time, and medals, 
one of a fleet of ships, a battle representing the 
defeating of the Dutch fleet, with standards, arms, 
drums, cannons, and other ensigns of victoiy 
taken around it This die was never ^ used. 
Another I saw of Oliver's own head raised out, 
the full-face perfectly like him. Of this die 
there are few to be seen. This Simmonds was 
the first introducer or inventor of milled money 
on coins or medals in England, though he cut 
the stamps for hammered money till 1663, or 
thereabouts, when he died in the Tower of Lon- 
don, where he dwelt.^ His effigy cut in steel is 
in the possession of Mr. House, engraver, living 
opposite to Pontack*8, Abchurch Lane, London, 
whose master was servant to this Simmonds, who 
observes that ** Simmonds was a good-like man, 
but his nose was awry a little." ^ 

Abraham Simmonds, the brother of Thomas, 
was a learned ingenious man, an excellent model- 
ler in wax, particularly of the likenesses or por- 
traits of persons with whom he had travelled 
abroad, and was in great esteem with the Queen 
of Sweden. King Charles IL sat to him for his 
picture, which he performed so much to the King's 
satisfaction, that he presented him with a hundred 
guineas for it. The Duke of York desired to sit 
to him, whose picture he did, and very weU. 
The Duke desired of Simmonds to know what he 
should give him. He told his Grace that the King 
gave him a hundred guineas. '^ But for me," says 
the Duke, " I think forty guineas will be suffi- 
cient** Simmonds takes the model into hb hands 
to look on it again, and with his thumbs squeezes 
it into a lump, and defaced it entirely. At this 
the Duke was highly oflended, and said he was an 
impudent fool. But this Simmonds valued not 
any body's humour of reflections. He was a per- 
fect cprnic, and so remarkable, that his dress, 
behaviour, life, and conversation, was ftU of a 
piece : wearing a long beard, went on pattins in the 
streets, and was often hooted after by the boys. 
He went to Nimuegen in Holland with Sir William 
Temple, and whilst there at his lodging he was 

^ Walpole seems to have deleted this word. 

7 T. Simon is said to have lived to the sickness year, 
ICC5, and then died of the plagtfe, but not [deleted] 
buried in the Tower. Though he lost the place of graver 
for the coins in the Mint, he at his death was graver to 
the King for his seals: of which his broad seals many are 
of King Charles II. finely done by him. — Abte fty Horace 
Walpole f 

Vertue published the following work in 1753: " Me- 
dals, Coins, Great Seals Impressions, from the elaborate 
Works of Thomas Simon, Chief Engraver of the Mint, to 
King Charles I., to the Commonwealth, the Lord Protec- 
tor Cromwell, and in the reign of King Charles II. to 
1666." 410. 

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let him I'm. The woman of the house would not 
let him in, nor allow her husband ; but on talking 
to Simmonds out of the^indow, the man seemed 
to have some compassion for him, and told him 
he would get a rope and let that down to help him 
in at the window. Simmonds finding a basket 
tied fast to the rope, ffot into it. The land- 
lord drew it up about hufway, and fastened it' to 
the bar of the window, and there left poor Sim- 
monds to lod^ till next morning ; and thus they 
got rid of tiieir tenant 

Simmonds*8 models were mostly done in wax ; 
but he was so very testy, that upon the least fault 
said to be in his work, after he had done the face 
of any nobleman or lady, he would instantly de- 
face it and ^o away. 

This Abraham Simmonds lived many years 
after his brother, and was a little man. In his 
younger days he was yery genteel, but afterwards 
entir^y careless \ and belieyed that all the world 
ought to respect him for his merit ; and that out- 
wtfd appearance, modish dress, and cleanliness, 
were unnecessary to ingenious men. His pic- 
ture was painted by several of the most eminent 
painters of his time, Sir Peter Leiy, Sir Godfrey 
Kneller, and others. 

When the Queen of Sweden was in France on 
a visit to King Louis the Grand, Simmonds, who 
was there also, had a great mind to make, or by 
stealth rather, do the picture of that King ; con- 
sequently he was often where the Kinj^ appeared 
ia public, either at church or at dinner, still 
Simmonds followed him, and availed himself of 
ewery opportunity to model his likeness. Sim- 
monds was an odd remarkable person, wearing a 
slouched hat and a long beard. The King bad 
taken notice of him at several times and places, 
but could not think what old man it was — for 
Simmonds was always ready with a small piece 
of glass concealed in the middle of his hand, to 
touch the lineaments of the features. On one 
occasion his Majesty called to him one of the 
Captains of his guard, and privately ordered him 
to seize on that man, and examine who he was. 
As soon as the King left the room, the Captain 
and others laid hold of Simmonds, and demanded 
who he was; whereupon he showed them the 
piece of glass with the King's face on it; adding, 
** Don't be afraid ; you need not have any sus- 
picion of ill desiffu of me : you may show this, 
and tell his Majesty for what I am a thief — 
being indeed in nothing so frightful as wearing 
fome hairs about my cmn as his grandfather did. 

^ ** Bold to be caused by his imagininff the Qaeen of 
Sweden was in love with him, but Deglectedlhim.**— Wal- 

which then was becoming a man, but now so 
frightful to the King and every body.*' This 
anecdote Simmonds told to Sir Hans Slo&ne. 

(7*0 be conHnued,} 


In the two volumes I edited for the Shakspeare 
Society, in 1848 and 1849, under the title of 
Extracts from the RegUters of the Stationers* 
Company^ I brought jny quotations from those 
valuable authorities down to July, 1587. I now 
propose to continue the extracts, with such il- 
lustrations as occur to me, in **N. & Q.;** in the 
confidence that they will be considered of suf- 
ficient literary interest to warrant the occupation, 
from time to time, of a few columns. As oefore, 
I shall generally confine myself to productions in 
the lighter departments, not pretending to touch, 
excepting occasionally and briefly, works of mere 
science, or those devoted to questions of pole- 
mical divinity. I- begin with the date of " 7 Au- 
fust, 1587 ;'* but it does not by any means always 
appen that the particular date of an entry is 
furnished; and sometimes one date is made in 
the register applicable to more than one work. 
To save room, where a date is furnished, I shall 
place it at the side of the entry, but in the ori- 
ginal record it usually fills a hc»d-line. 

7 August!, 1587. Jo. Wolf. R[eceive]d of him 
for prin tinge the Maryners* fHe .... iiij'*. 

[Herbert, in his edition of Ames's Typ. Ant^ 1785, 
vol. ii. p. 1186., calls this work the Mnryn*a JUe, as if he 
had not understood the common contraction at the end of 
the word •« Jfaiyner**." ] 

22 Augiisti. — John Woulfe. Rd. of him for 
printinge the Mouminge Muses of Lod, Bryskett, 
upon the deathe of the moste noble S' Phlp. Syd- 
ney, Knigbte, &c. vj*. 

[It is rather singular that T. Warton should have 
attributed this poem to Spenser (O&t. on the F. Q. I 
22a); andRitson {BMwgr, Poet., 145.) cites the entry 
of it without being aware that the Juourning Mute of 
Tkutylis had been printed, when in fact it had been pub- 
lished in 1595, in what may be called, the appendix to 
Colin Cbufs come Home again. There it has no name 
nor initials; hut here we find that LodowiclE Bryskett, 
Spenser's intimate fHend, was the writer. of it; and on 
this account it was subjoined by the author of the F, Q. 
to hjs own poem on the same melancholy event] 

1 1 Sept. — Jo. Wolf. Rd. of him for printinge, 
as well in English as French, the pictures of a 
yon^e man and a nurse'* vj^. 

[The probability is that these *<pictares " (if. wood 
engravings) had inscriptions in iTnglish and French 
nndeneaih them.] 

13 Sept.— Jo. Wolf. Rd. of him' for printinge 

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// Decamerom di Bocoaeh (in Italian), and the 
BiHorU of<!kim^ both in Italian and English, 

fHere we lee two ttparate works entered at once, and 
a oonUe fse therefore paid. We know nothing of any 
e.blion of Boccacio's Decameron printed in Italian by 
Wo'.fe. An English version came oat in 1620» and 
162 > ia 8 yols. iMio, which is considered the earliest 
otf the entire work. It most hare been translated by 
8er<^ral hands, and there is great inequality of ex- 
ocUence; all art good, bat some novels art admirably 
reodsred. A Bittmy of the great amd wughty Kingdom 
i^.CMna, translated by R. Parke, not from the Italian, 
but from the Spanish of Mendosa, appeared in 1588. The 
onrloos tafbrmatioa it contains was all collected bv the 
J«aalt8, and it is a rery amosing and informing book. 
See Po$L Deeam., 8to. 1820, vol S. p. 308.] 

ISSept— Tho. Gubbyn, Tho. Newman. Rd. 
of them for printinffe a booke intitled Amoraua 
FiammMXy translated oat of Italian . . . tj'. 

fThis translation from Boccacio was called in Bngllsh 
^Amormu Fummttta: wherein is sette Downe a CaU- 
logtM of all and slngaUr Passions of Love and Jealosle." 
It was printed by John Charlwood« fbr G«bbyn and New 
man> with the date of 1687.] 

Edw. White. Rd. of him for prmtinge Euphues, 
Alt Censures to Philautust ^e rj*. 

fThis entry has no date of day or month, but the tract, 
which is one of the famous Robert Greene's works, ap- 
peared in 4to., with the year 1587 upon the title-page, 
whleh is verv ftill and wordy : it pnrports to have been 
pioted by/oha Wolft for Edward White. It does not 
seem to have been so popular as many others of the same 
poet a productions, and the only re-impression of it that 
seems known is of 1634.] 

S October. — John Perryn. Rd. of him fbr his 
lioence to prynte the Histarie qf ApoUmus and 
OamiUa yj«. 

[if this be the correct title of the piece, we know no 
more of it than the above entry. Apolonias was a fa- 
Yourite name in novels of the time : we have ** Apolooius 
of Tyre," ** Apolonins and Silla,** &c It is just possible 
that "CamiUa" was mUwritten for <<Silla ;" but the name 
of OamiUa occurs in the title-page of Greene's Memaphan, 
the earliest extant edition of which bears the date of 
1680. ** Apolonins and SilU ** is the title of a tale in B. 
Bich's Fartweil to MUUarie Profetntm^ 1581 *, and to it 
Shalcspeare may have resorted for part of the plot of his 

Tioem m^t.i 

80 Oct. — Tho. Purfoote. Lycensed to ;him, by 
the whole consent of Thassistantes, the piyntinge 
of Billes for pryses at fcncinge, as M" pryses and 
Sobollers* pryses. 

( Uke play-bills, every one of these andent annoonee- 
nMnts,fbr prises given to masters and scholars at fencing- 
matohe^ has disappeared. The next entry regards the 
fbra«er, viz. •*biUs for players ;»• and Uke the bills for 
fencers, the monopoly of printing them was given by the 
Coart of the Stationers' Company, no doubt for a valu- 
able consideration, to an individual printer. A finicer s 
ehalleage, the earliest exUnt, but still fall half a century 
poaierior to the date of this entry, is in my possession ; 
but it is too long for insertion here. It was isMied from 
the Red Bull Tlleat^^ where such exhibitions often took 
place in the middle of the seventeenth century.] 

John Charlewood. Licenced to him, hj the 
whole consent of Thamistantes, the onelye ym- 
pryntinge of all manner of Billes fbr players, 


[The date of this entry, we mar oonclude, was the 
same as that of the preceding, and It is the earliest on 
the sabject in the Begisteraii bat although we have no 

proof of tb • " - • 

nad been 

proof of the &ct, there can be little doubt that plav-bills 
nad been previously issued from the press, though pro- 
bably without any exclusive right See the question 

considered In Hist, ofEng. Dram, Poet, and the Stage, 
lit 882., where the above entry to Cbarlewoo 1 is intro- 
duoed. He was dead in 1592 \ for under date of 28 April 
(Shakspeare*s birth-day) in that year we read as follows 
in a different part of the Register : " W« J agger [i. e, 
Jagpardt one of the enterprisers of the folio of 1628]. 
** Whereas Willm. Jagger hath made request to have the 
prikitlng of the btlles for players, as John Charlwood had, 
vt is graunted that, if ne oan get the said Charlwood 
his wydowe*s consent hereunto, or if she die or marry 
out of the company. That then the company will have 
consideration to prefer him in this sute before ano- 
ther." Perhaps William Jaggard did not succeed, be- 
canse shortly after 1592 James Roberts, the printer of 
Shakspesre's Merchant of Fsnioc, &c, mentioned ** bills 
fbr players" as among the productions of his press. 
James 1, soon after he came to the throne, granted a 
patent to Roger Wood and Thomas Bymcocke ** for the 
sole printing of paper and parchment on one side," In- 
clndlng by name **aU bills fbr pla3rs, pastimes, shows, 
challenges, prises or sports ** of any kind i and they as- 
signed the monopoly to Edward Allde, the son of John 
Allde, whose name so frequently occurs in the older re- 
gistrations of books, ballads, and broadsides.] 

Edw. Aggas. Lycensed to him Hake*0 Oration 
ypon the Queene^s Birth daye^ 1586 . . . TJ'. 

[We first hear of Edward Hake in 1567, and about 
twenty years afterwards we find him Mayor oC New 
Windsor, as the borough was then distinguished from 
Old Windsor, and In that capacity pronouncing this 
** Oration, conteynlng an Expoknlatlon,** on the bhrth- 
day of Queen EUeabeth In 1686. The only copy we ever 
saw of it is in Lambeth Library { and from the title-page 
we learn, that it was not published until " this xvH day 
of November, In the xxx yeare of the. Qneene's High- 
nesse most happle Ralgne.'*^ Edward Hake was probably 
not dead In 1604, when he printed a tract called (^ 
QokTs Kingdom ^ this unhe^ring Age, which is principally 

6 Norember.— Jo. Wolf. Allowed to him for 
his copie, the Home A. B. G iiij'. 

[The •* Home A. B. 0.** was unquestionably an alpha- 
bet protected by transparent horn. One of the very 
earliest entries in these Registere is of an ** a. b. c'.for 
children, in Eufflish with syllables," in 1557. This, too, 
was doubtless a norn-book. We have never seen one of a 
date anterior to the commencement of the seventeenth 

Tho. East. Rd. of him for printing Bassus Son- 
nettes and somes, made into musick offyve partes* 
By William Byrd vj^ 

[This work was printed by East, with the date of 1588, 
under the following title: **p8almest Sonnets^ and Songee 
of Sadnee and Pietie, made into Mutique ofjlce parts, by 
William Birde, one of the Gentlemen of her Majesties 
honorable ChappeU.**] 

10 Nov'.— John Wyndett. Allowed unto him. 

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&c. the ymprintixige of a booke intytuled The 
JBlessednes of Brytaine YJ^. 

[Bj Uanrice KyMfi : it ^iA pfeparttCoi^ to the retam 
of the anniretsflf^ of the Qneeci's wxesMoh, ot 17th Nor. 
The fall title mns thus: *< 7Yk« BkttedMs of BrfUthn^ or 
a CUeAni<Mm of t&e Qveene'f i7o/y day : wherein is briefly 
cUsconned the most happy tte^ment of her Bighnes.'^ It 
Mems to have been so popular that, haviDf been printed 
W Wjndet in 1587, it was reprinted bv John Wolfe in 
lodSL Two anonymous performances or a similar com- 
|dezion were entered by John Charlewoode and Thomas 
Dnffild on the 14th and 20th l7oy. respectively. One was 
called **A Prayer mtd Thakkagyyingt unto God for the 
prosperous Estate and hnge Oontinuanee of the QueeneU 
Ma*^; to be sofige on the xvij<* of November, J587;'* 
and the other **A haliat intitnled A Seioe Yer^s Hemem- 
bfanee ; wherein we miyr [see] howe imteh«. #e be be- 
holden to the Qaeene." The word ** see " is omitted, and 
wo ipptohend that the true title was, like many other% 
in rerse^ and ran thns, though the clerk at Stationers' 
Hall committed a blander in copying it : — 

'* A new yere's remembrance, wherein may be seene 
Howe moche we be beholden to the Queede.^ 
We are not aware that either pfOdactkm is how in eillst- 

W" Wright Rd. of him for a mery Jest of a 

pudding 4 . yj''. 

^^The price paid for the license seems to show that it 
was constderabiy more than a'humoroas hroadside, which 
iisaally cost fonrpence. We can do no more than conjec- 
ture as to the nature of the pieces and we are not aware of 
the existence, in our old jefli-books, of anr one the prin- 
cipal snbject of which irta a ;»uddiiig. All h<y« beard of 
Jadk JPuddmyi afid It ieeme fust Meh a topie as TarltoM 
would bays taken at the theatre for one of his eoerie 
SMmologieal perfonnanoes; and in 16S7 he was fhll of 
life^ yigonr, and drollery. He died, aa is supposed, of 
the plague, rather less tbian a year aftefwards. j 

J. Patkb Colij£B. 


I hatre in mj poumtAoh a topf of the ootorioua 
AntlioDy Pasquin's Chiidren of The^pis^ 18ih edi- 
tion, Lcmdon» 1793* with numeroua manuscript 
aimotalions, which I here transcribe for ** N. & 
Q." On the fly-leaf Is the following : — 

" Hie M& notes were written by the author io the pre- 
sence of the gentleman who gaye mo this book. — R J." 

Beneath the dedicatory yerses "^To Anthony 
Pasqtdn, Esq , by W. Whitby," on p. ht., is wfit- 
ten ''with ifilO;*^ p. xix., at foot of the dedication 
to the first part of the poenii ** To Sir Joshua Rey* 
nolds " is Also written " jflO.** 

rape. £ t, d, 

64. Mr8.Croneh - • 10 

6«. His. Jordan - 10 

61. Mr. Parsons - - 5 6 

64. Mr. Barrymore. 

To the opening lines of this sketch : — 
<'8eel bo's coming tins wajl — and,my stan^how he 
lours I 
Haye you no apt exorcism to fetter his powers? 
He surely will eat us — Ah me I what yain fears I 
*I1s fiar^ymoro, sister; 1 see the matfs eart)'' 

is attaohed this note : *^ 

**N.B. These lines yery nearly proted the cause of nv 
assassinatioD, when this miscreant, Capt Walker, Ang«I, 
the fencing master, and "tom Toung clubbed their anti- 
pathies for the purpose of my destruction. — A. P.'* 

At p. 88. The nameless sketch is filled 

up"Grimaldi" — 

Page, JAme, 

iK). 24. Curtias, i. e. " Mr. HaaHnys," 

91. 15. C— B P— X. Mr. Fox.^ 

— . 20. A Tonng Peer, kc. Lord OariUle. 

—• 21. A Judge, *'L(rhA Loughborough, a trdO prd- 

^ 23. An Eminent Basetl, Bate Dmdky. 
-^ 28. A PUy. Wright, Mt. Sheridan. 

— 24. A Captain. Certain Morris. 

-» 26. A tfake, the kUe Duhe of Manchester. 

— 26. A Right Honor*d Scoundrel, Majot' Hon* 


92. 1. A Surgeon, Deimis aStyen. 

— 2. A specious Attorney, Mr. Trowafd, 

— - A Dull Pamphleteer, Mr. TiehelL 

— 8. An Earl, Lord Derby. 

— 5. A Lordling, Lord Ludlow. 

-^ 0. A Taetkk^Taught Qenerd, <4e late CNmn t 

— 7. A Patnoty Mr. Courtney, 
^ 8. A Caitiff, Mr. Adam, 

— It. And S— th. General Smith. 

Seoond Part. Dedication to " Warren Haitiagi^ 
Esq.** Underneath** 302.** 

Page. £ 9. d, 

114. MraAbhigton - 100 

128. Mr. Macklin - - 6 5 
(With a letter full of eztrayagant encomiums. ) 

126. Mr. Holman - - 2 2 

180. Miss Wilkinson - ^110 

181. Mr. Pope - - - 8 8 
188. Mrs. Billingtoa - - 10 
188. Mr. Edwin - - - 6 6 
146. Mr. Fearon - - 10 6 
151. — Johnstone - - 5 6 
160. Mrs. Cargill - - - 10 

<*I had ten pounds for inserting this eharacter by oaa 
of Che deeeased lady's admirers." 

168. Mr.lncledon (at yariotts periods) 20 

171. Mr. Wroughton - - 2 2 

174. — Blanchard - - 1 1 

177. Mrs. Wells - - - 8 5 

m. Mr. Lewis - - - 2 2 

188. Mr. Kennedy - - 6 6 

199. line 81. Mr. Harris - - 6 6 

196. MissBruntott - - 1 1 

204. Mrs. Martyr - - 4 4 

216. Mr. Fawcett, Jun. - - 1 1 

219. —Bernard - - - 2 2 

222. —Quick - - - 4 4 

281. —Ryder - - - 2 2 

284. — Munden - - - 6 6 

The annotations end here. Of their gennine* 
ness I have no proof. Can any of yonr eorrespon- 
dents confirm these statements ? If you desire to . 
inspect the volnme before publication, I shall be 
happy to forward it. Johw A, Habpbe. 

87, Duke Street, Hulme^ 

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It 18 much to be wbhed that historical writers 
of the present day would take a little more pains 
than they usually do with the statistical part of 
their labours. 'Nothing can possibly be more 
loose, or untrustworthy, than the estimates of 
population and revenue which were popularly 
current, up to the middle of the last century, in 
most countries of Europe. And yet a historian 
will cite them (when tney happen to serve the 
turn of a theory) with just as much confidence as 
if he was quoting the tables of our Registrar- 
General for 1861. When we find a writer of such 
vast information as Mr. Buckle, telling his readers 
- (in his second volume, p. 68.) that, ^ at the be- 
l^ninff of the seventeenth century, the popula- 
tion of Madrid was estimated to be 400,000, at 
the beginning of the eighteenth century less than 
200,000,** we feel that the power of digesting 
numerical statements is of more value than the 
patience which collects them, or the ready memory 
which uses them. Mr. Buckle might have remem- 
bered that, in 1550, Madrid was only an obscure 
country town, and that its population was much 
less than 200,000 in the early part of this century. 
There is a curious calculation of the number of 
inhabitants in the principal cities of Europe about 
three centuries ago in the DescriUione aei Paesi 
Bassi of Ludovico Guicciardini, nephew of the 
historian, published in 1587. It is, of course, im- 
possible to vouch for its accuracy; but some of 
the numbers which he gives accord remarkably 
with what we know from other sources ; and the 
Italians were the only statisticians of that age — 
the only men accustomed to deal rationally with 
political arithmetic. I give his figures; com- 
paring them, by way of curiosity, with the re- 
cently-estimated population of the same places in 
round numbers : — 

QniedardinL AtPiCM&i. 

Antwerp (before the siege) • 100,000 100,000 

BmaeeU 76,000 170.000 

Ghent, little more than . - 60,000 110,000 

Dege, rather over ... 100,000 90,000 

Cologne, nearly - - - 100,000 110,000 

Augsbarg, nearly ... 60,000 40,000 

Nuremberg, rather greater than ) ca aaa 

Augsbnrg - - - -J — ^»""0 

Prague 140,000 140,000 

Paris - - - 810,000 to 820,000 1,600,000 

Rouen - - - • - - 120,000 100,000 

London, above - - - . 150,000 2,800,000 

Lisbon 200,000 270,000 

Seville 160,000 100,000 

Madrid 100.000 800.000 

Rome, neariy - - - - 100.000 180,000 

Naples, above - - . - 200,000 410,000 

Florence 120.000 110,000 

' Bologna 86.000 76,000 

Genoa - - -. - - 100,000 120,000 
Milan (census of Cardinal) 

Borroroeo), citiz^is, besides V 180,216 170,000 

strangers . . . ) 

Venice 196,868 120,000 


Minor ^tti. 

Lost Passaob of Abistotlb upon Ihdian 
Rmas. — Fordun (Scotichronicon^ iv. 49.) says of 
Duncan, King of Scotland : — 

** Iherat ei laadabilis consoetudo, regnl scilicet per- 
transire regiones semel in anno, pacificnm et pecniiarem 
popnlam saA benigne conaolari presenti&; quern prop- 
terea non inconvenienter assimilare possnmos regi Indo- 
mm, de qao Aristoteles de regimine prindpam dicit, quod 
apud Indos fhit contaetodo, quod rex semel in anno 
ostenderet se aperte omni popnlo, armis indntns regoli- 
bos, et exponeret eis qoid illo anno fecerit pro repablici; 
et tunc licnit cuilibet panperi proponere qnerelam, et de 
hac reportare medelam.** 

The only passage in the Politics of Aristotle 
relating to Indian kings, is in vii. 14, where 
Scylax is cited as stating that these kings are phy- 
sically superior to their subjects. Other frag- 
ments of the treatise of Scylax upon India are 
preserved: see C. MUller, Oeogr, Ur, Min, vol. i. 
p. xxxiv. The passage referred to by Fordun 
was probably in the lost treatise of Aristotle 
irfpl eiaffiXMt (Diog. Laert v. 22 ; compare Bran- 
dis, Aristateles^ vol. i. p. 93). Fordun, however, 
who lived at the end of the fourteenth centurv. 
doubtless copied the citation from some previoos 
writer. G. C. Lxwis. 

• PoBsoEi AMD Adam CiiABKE. — Few of your 
readers probably know, or care to know, whether 
Mrs. Person died six months or eighteen afler her 
marriage ; nor would the subjcQt be worth occu- 
pying a single line in " N. & Q." otherwise than 
as illustrating the reckless manner in which critics 
occasionally accuse others of error. Beloe [Sexa- 
genarian, vol. i. p. 207.] accuses The Atheweum of 
error in stating that Mrs. P. died in 1797, add- 
ing "whereas, the fact is that Porson married 
Mrs. Lunan in November, 1795, and the lady 
died sometime in the April following :" an original 
error the most careful chronicler may occasionally 
fall into ; but deliberately and authoritatively to 
contradict a statement without inquiring into the 
fact is inexcusable. Mrs. P.'s death is recorded 
in the Oent's Mag, for Majr, 1797, as having 
occurred on the 12th of April in that same year. 

A similar case has recently occurred, in the 
London Review for May 25, the reviewer calls it 
a "comical blunder*' on the part of Mr. J. S. 
Watson in his Life of Porson^ to suppose " that 
Porson was intimate with the Evangelical Dr. 
Adam Clarke,** and informs the reader that " the 
Dr. Adam Clarke (who wrote the Narrative of the 
last Illness and Death of Professor Porson) was 
reaUy Dr. E. D. Clarke, the traveller.'* ! ! The 
reviewer is probably not aware that the ** Evan- 

felical ** Doctor A. C. was elected to the office of 
librarian at the Surrey Institution about the 
same time that R. P. obtained a similar appoint- 
ment at the " London,** so that there is nothing 
very remarkaUe in the fact of their being ac- 

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quainted ; and mucli as they may have differed in 
opinion, as doubdeas they did on some subjects, 
this surely need not prevent either from holding 
the other in high esteem. But to the point. The 
simple fact is, that Mr. Watson is rightj and his 
reviewer is wrong. Q. 

N.B. The *' grave man and most wonderful 
scholar *' who suggested that, instead of going to 
Florence at the expense of the University to 
examine the Medicean M S. of iEschy lus, ** Mr. For- 
son might coUect hisMSS. at home,*' was (as Kidd 
informed me) Dr. Torkington, Master of Clare 

Slips of thb Novklists. — I have known 
Humphry Clinker more years, and read it more 
times, than I will confess ; but I never, till now, 
detected the following very gross contradiction. 
It is in the account of the Grub Street dinner ; 
and the two passages have about thirty sentences 
between them : — 

* '^ A fourth had contracted such an antipathy to the 
country, that he inaiBted upon sittiog with his back to- 
wards the window that looked into the garden; and 
-when a dieh of cauliftower was aet upon the tables he 
snuffed up volatile salts to keep him from fainting ; yet 
this delicate person was the son of a cottager, bom under 
a hedge, and had many years run wild among asses on 

a common The sage who laboured under the 

aypo^ofiia, or * horror of green fields,' bad just finished a 
treatise on practical agriculture ; though, in fact, he had 
never seen com growing in his llfej and was so ignorant 
cf grain, that our entertainer, in the face of the whole 
company, made him own that a plate of hominy was the 
best rice pudding he had ever eat." 

A coUecUon of such slips would be amusing. 

A. De Morqan. 
Yebdugo. — In Ben Jonson*s Alchemistj Act III. 
Sc. 3, Face, in telling Subtle of the expected ar- 
rival of a rich Spanish grandee, says, — 
" His great 
Yerdugo-ahip has not a jot of language." 

The commentators say " Hangman-ship : Ver- 
dugo is Spanish for a hangman." I see by Motley's 
History of the NetherlantU, vol. ii. p. 54, &c., Ver- 
dugo was the name of one of the Spanish generals 
who fought in Flanders. Is it not more probable 
thia was the person alluded to ? There spems no 
reason why a supposed haughty and wealthy 
grandee from whom they expected to gain so 
much should be called *' his Hangmanship ;** 
while, as they did not know his name, it was not 
unnattiral to call him by that of some other .well- 
known Spanish Personage. A. A. 
Poets' Corner. 

Wolskt's Rbpbmtaiccb.— In "N. & Q." (June 
8tb, ante p. 448.) appears an historical parallel 
between two luckless statesmen, Cardinal Wolsey 
(1530) and Sir James Hamilton (1540), who, at 
their last hour, regretted ^'that they had not 
served their Qod as well they had served their 

king** Perhaps the latter may have unconsciously 
borrowed from and copied the for^ier. But may 
not the expression be derived from the East? 
So many oriental tales, proverbs, and maxims, 
were wafted from oriental marts in Venetian gal- 
leys to Italy, and thence dispersed over Europe, 
that they became household words, and the ground- 
work in many instances as well of amusement as 
of thought. I enclose a tale from the Gulistdn of 
Saadi (a.d. 1258), which expresses the same idea 
in words so similar, that one can hardlv suppose 
the resemblance to be accidental ; but of thjs your 
readers will jud^e : — 

One of the Viziers went before Ziin' Niin of 
Egypt, and desired his opinion, saying : ** I am 
engaged day and night in the service of the Sul- 
tan, hoping good from him and fearing punish- 
ment."* Ziin' Niin wept, and said : ^^ If I feared 
God as you do the king, I should be one of the 
company of the saints." 

" If a Durwaish hoped not ease, and (feared not) pain, 

He would mount to the heavenly dome ; 

And if a Vizier feared God as much as the King, 

He would be an angel." 

J. R. 

Chabacteb of Bishop Jbbbmv Tatlob. — The 
following note on the character of Bp. Taylor is 
written in an old copy of the HolyJ^iving in hand- 
writing of a date at about the end of the seven- 
teenth century : — 

" The author of this excellent book had the good 
humour of a gentleman, the eloquence of an orator, the 
fancy of a poet, the acuteness of a schoolman, the pro- 
foundness of a philosopher, the wisdom of a counsellor, 
the sagacity of a prophet, the reason of an angel, and the 
piety of a saint." 

E. M. 

An Ebgush Giamt. — In the number of ^^N. 
& Q.'* for June 15, I observed at p. 476 a com- 
munication on the Irish giants ; and in the quota- 
tion from the Lambeth MSS. one is mentioned 
who had attained the height of 6 ft. 10^ in. In 
connection with this subject perhaps the follow- 
ing, which I copied a few years since from a 
tombstone in the churchyard of Calverley, York- 
shire, may interest some of your readers: — 

''Also Benjamin, son of the above John and Mary 
Cromach, who died on the 26th of SepL 18126, aged 25 
years, who took a coflSn 7 feet 11 inches long." 

N. S. Hbimbkeh. 


The following verses are written with much 
point, and relate, I imagine, to a case of "breach 
of promise." Can you give the lady's name here 
alluded to ? I have only seen the poem in MS. 
among some collections made, about the ^ear 1732, 
by one W. 0. (Query, William Oldiswortb P) Is 

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there anj due to the Author f It if entitled m 

fdlowB : — 

" Knox Ward, Emg-ai-Armst disarmed at Law. 

** Ye fair injai«d nymphs, and ye beans who deceive 'em, 
Who with passion engage, and withoot reason leave 'em, 
Draw near and attend bow the Hero I sing 
Was foiled by a Girl, tho* at arms he was Sang. 

« Cre»U motto$, aupporterSf and bearinM knew he, 
And deeply was studied in old pedigree. 
He would sit a whole evening and, not without rapture, 
Tell who begat who to the end of the Chapter. 

** In forming his toblsi nought grieved him so sorely 
That the man died CcBlebs, or else nnenroU, 
At last, having traced other families down. 
He began to have thoughts of encreasing his own. 

« A Damsel be cboge, not too slow of belief. 
And fain would be deemed her admirer in chief. 
He blazoned his suit, and the sum of his tale 
Was his j^e^ and her/sM joined party per pale. 

** In difierent stile, to tie faster the noose,' 
He next would attack her in soft bUlet doux. 
His argmt and m6& were laid aside quite* 
Plain English he wrote, and in plain black and whita. 

« AgaiBst such atchieffememis what beauty canld fence t 
Or who would have thought it was all but^ntaieef — 
His pain to relieve, and fulfil his desire, 
The lady agreed to join hands with the sqvre. 

** The snuire, in a fret that the jeet went so far. 
Considered with speed how to put in a bar. 
His words bound not him, since hers did not confine her : 
And that is plain law, because Miss is a minor. 

" Miss briskly replied that the law was too hard. 
If she, who's a minor, may not be a ward. 
In law then confiding, she took it upon her. 
By justice to mend thoso foul breaches of honour. 

** 8he handled him so that few would, I warrant. 
Have been in his coat on so sleeveless an errant 
She made him give bond for stamped argent and or, 
And sabled his shield with gules blazoned before. 

** Te heralds produce, from the time of the Normans, 
In all your Kecords such a base non -performance ; 
Or if without instance the case ia we touch on, 
Let this be aet 4awn «s a 6/ot in his aetttckeon.*' 


I addreM mjaelf to you in the hope that you, 
or aome of your correspondents, may be able to 
throw light upon the connexion between the per- 
sons named m the following pedigree and the 
baronial House of Hastings ; and I hope the 
general interest of the subject will be a sufficient 
apology for the length of my communication. 

OwaUervs Diacomu appears in Domesday as 
Lord in Capite of Wikes, or Wiz ; and of"^ ten 
knights' fees in Tendering Hundred, Essex (Mo- 
rant, i. 404. 466.), and of lands in Suffolk and 

He was father of WaUtr or William Moiektrely 
a&d of Alex, de Waham or Wix, who died #. p. ; 
leaving lands in Wix and elsewhere to his great, 
or great-grand nephew, Kalph. Walter MaMsht* 

rel had lands in finasex in 1194 {BoL Cw. B^. 
30.) ; and was father of Robert, father of WiMiatm^ 
father of Robert de Hoitmgij who had iasue fiobert, 
Ralph, and John ; probably the Ralph a&d Joh& 
de Hasdngi who were of Eesex, 1199. John also 
was of Norfolk, and died temp. John. (B. C. R. 
252. 314.) Ralph confirmed to the church of 
Wix certain grants by his '* father's unde,*' Alex, 
de Wahaoi, already confirmed by his own father 
William* and by his brother Robert. Ralph cor- 
responds in soraepoints with a Ralph who fipires 
in the regular Haatings pedisree as Dapirer to 
Henry II. ; and who held, 35 Hen. II., 1( hydes ; 
and, 1 John, 1 fee in Wix {Fine$, i. xxiii. ; R* C. 
R. 124.) 

Robert de HaeOngs, the elder brother, held a 
fee in Eistan, co. £^x (Hor. ii. 430.) ; and the 
barony of Hastings, consisting of ten fees, of which 
Little Chesterfonl was a {^rt, and one was in 
Wix, and for these he paid scuta^ in 1206. 
Little Bromley also descended to him from the 
deac(m ; and oontinued, says Horant, many yearf 
in the Hastings fiMnil^, ^ who took the nane of 
Qodmanston from their lordship near Dorchester, 
held und^ the Louvaines ** ; in which statement 
there seems some blunder (Mor. L 421. 439. ; iL 
430. 556.) 

Robert married the daughter and heiress of 
Wm. de Windsor (Banks's Bar., i. 386.), Lord of 
Easton, co. Essex; and left Delicia heiress of 
Hastings barony, of which Little Easton was the 
" Caput." She is probably the " Alicia" who had 
a suit with Ralph de Hastings for Wikes, 10 Rich. 
I., 1198(fl. C.ii. 184.) 

Delicia married, 1. Henry de Cornhill ; and 2. 
(jodfrej de Louvaine, a baron temp. John, and 
brother of Duke Henry of that title. He held 
Wix and Chesterford, with the ten fees. He had 
Eye, CO. Suffolk, from his own family (Dugd. 
i. 786.) 

They had issue Matthew de Lauvain, who 'had 
liTery of the ten fees, circa 9 Hen. III. ; and was 
of 'Eton, Bucks, a Hastings manor (Banks's Bar, 
L 366.) He died 46 Hen. III., leaving Matthew 
sdL twenty-four ; and who died 30 Edw^ I. (A6- 
brev. Rot. Orig. i. 121.), leaving Thomas set. 
twelve, who diea e.p. 1345 ; and John de Louvain, 
ob. 1347, who married Margaret, daughter and 
heiress of Thomas de Weston ; and was father of 
Alianor, finally sole heir of a very lai^ property, 
which she carried to Sir Wm. Bourchier; by 
whom she was ancestress of the Earls of Eu and 
Essex, Lords Bourchier and Louvain (Dugd. i. 
736. ; ii. 128. ; Banks, L 59.) 

This pedigree, whatever nay be its value as a 
whole, IS undoubtedly correct as regards the 
Louvaines, and their ten fees, in descent from the 
deacon aiul Mascherel, his son ; but the Hastings 
part of it is faulty, and it may be remarked) that 
whiie Louvain ^ gules a fioss hetweea 12 biUet^ 

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ar^eoV' vm a fvrearite quartering of the Bour- 
ckiere, thej never includea Hastmgs in their Bhield. 

What then was this family of Hastings? If 
they came in nale deseeat from the deneon, they 
were of a distiaot ftook irom the heroDs, who had 
nothing te my to hmi. Was their Eton the Eton- 
Hastings, often mentioned? And was not this a 
manor attached to the Barons Haatix^ ? 

While on (his topic, I may mention another 
difficulty connected with the Hasting pedigree. 
Pole, in hk Dewm CoOeeHmu (p. 157.)t atntes that 
WiUiam^ Dispensator Begis, Hen. I., who had 
Lenlngton, co. Devon, was father of Richard, 
father of WiUiam who married Mabel, daughter of 
William Carbooel ef Woodbury; who remained, 
and was mother of Robert de Albini, who died 
#. p., having had Lenii^gton from his widowed 

ITiis was Muri^, daughter of WifiJiam and 
Mabel ; who married Bobert de Bickalegh, and,^ 
no doubt, died s, p. 

-The above are all supposed to have borne the 
name of Hastines, because a Robert de Bastings 
was steward to Henry I. Is this a safe deduction ? 

It is, however, rather curious that John Car- 
bonel should have had free- warren in Newton, 
and Aketon, co. Suffolk; and Welnetham ami 
WHet, CO. Essex, 29 Edw. I. (Cal. Rot. Chart, 

p.* 180.) a D. 


remarkable production appeared towards the end 
of 18^91, in tne form of an English translation of 
the Russian original. The introduction is very 
unsatisfactory in so far as regards when and where 
ihe MS. was procured. Great reliance is. placed 
upon what is termed internal evidence; a most 
unsatisfactory mode of verifying the authenticity 
of any book. Nevertheless the minute detail of 
circumstances, many of which are of a singular 
and striking description, and the justness of the 
portraitore of Peter IH. and his aunt give snoh an 
appearance <Mf reality, as to lead to a belief that 
the memoir is no fabrication. 

If a forgery, the wov^k is about the best thing 
of the kind we ever read ; if the reverse, then we 
have no hesttation in calling it ihe most remark- 
able autobiography ever writtenu J. M. 

IT19B3ABT OF Chablbs J. — Does there eadst, 
in print or majBsscript, an Itinerary of King 
Charles I. similar to that compiled by the late 
Thomas Du^fiis Hardy, £sq^ for the x&ffi of 
King John ? I have frequently thought of en- 
deavouring to compile such a table, and have 
some materials for the purpose. It would be 
useless to do so if the lajMor bai already been 
performed. Gbimb. 

Cbbbbt of Fikhob. — I find it stated that the 
anaa ai th« vieieDt iMmly of ChaMy of Pinhoe, 

in the county of Devon, were gulea, four (some* 
times said to be five) fusils in fesse argentl <mdk 
fiisil charged with an escallop shell sable. 

These are so like the arms of Daubeney and «f 
Carteret^ that I Am led to inquire whether Umre 
was originally any comectioB between the thx«a 
families ; and, if there was any siieh oaMiectioo, 
whietfaer It was through the ILause of ToAmit iha 
early history of whabh has reoentiy been disoiMsed 
in the celumAs of ^ N. k Q."P 

A similar inqiiiry might perhaps be made vith 
respect to some of the «ther famiiaefl OMaeniled 
by Mb. Cl, Hoppbb (2»'» S. viii. 19.) 

I should also be glad to be informed what oon- 
neotion iSiere was between ^e CSieneys cf Finhoe 
and the Cheneys of Broke in the county of WiHa, 
represented in more modern times by the noble 
family of Willoughby de Broke. MsMOKi 

CusamRG oiiD Glass. — Fetiieps some one cm 
aufbrm me of the best method of deaninff oli 
glass from whitewarfi, fte. Would it be injvred 
by lying ia vinegar for a eertain time, eay a da^ ' 
or a week P I have semet'the outside of which le 
corroded into little holes, and the inside covered 
with white-wash, set as hard as if it were almost 
part of the glass itself. F* S. 

Dbbds wini STBOias asd SisAxa. — Cm woj 
of year correspondents eKpbin tiie meaniaff M 
the strings and seals attadied to deeds P ft k 
mntversal; bebnging alike to the ancient Amy^ 
riea, the Anglo-Suoii, the Chinese, the SiaoMn, 
as well as dl the Evropean nations, from tfc^ 
earliest times down to the present daj. Sure-y 
it must originally have had some deep rasport. 

Z. IS* 

Edwabd I. AND Llewelyn Pbihcb of Walbb. 
— In the handsome quarto volume by Edward 
Parry, which, under the unworthy and somewhat 
catchpennv titie of Roycd Visita and Progreasea io 
Walea (tating advantage of ** the friendly visit of 
her most gracious Majesty Queen Victoria ") Is 
in fact an elaborate history of the Principality, 
occurs (at p. 133, 2nd edit, 1851) the fbllowu^ 
passage: — 

^£djraid being at Anst Feny en the Seven* and 
knowing that the Prince of Wales was en the opposite 
side, sent him an invitation to come over the river, that 
they might oodCbv together and settle some matter of 
dispute. This being refused by Llewelyn, King Edward 
threw himself into a boat, and crossed over to the Prlncs^ 
who, struck with the eallantry of the action, leaped into 
Ae water to racifv« khn, tdllng the King at the same 
time that his humility had conquered his own pride, end 
that his wisdom had triumphed over his own fbUy." 

Mr. Parry has generally given his autherHiefl 
with true historic fidelity; but not so on the pre- 
sent occasion. From what chronicler or other 
encieat Mthor is the eneodole derived? 

GovaH AT Cabapoo* 

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[2^ a Xn. July 6. 'et 

The Elstbbe Mubdbb. — The confessions of 
Hunt, one of the three persons connected with 
this remarkable crime, were, according to the 
terms of his pardon, to be made without reser- 
vation, and then lodged in the Secretary of State*8 
office. Has this been done ? Ruthven, the Bow- 
Street officer engaged in the affair, was of opinion 
that all three, that is Thurtell, Frobert, and Hunt, 
were present at the actual murder; for few horses, 
they argued, would stand the discharge of pistols 
behind them unless held. Can any of your cor- 
respondents inform me on this matter through 
"N. &Q." G.B. 

Tbb tobbiddbh Gauhtlbt.^ At a meeting of 
the Society of Antiquaries, June 21, 1860, as re- 
ported hj Sylvanus Urban, there appears to have 
been exhibited by the Worshipful Company of 
Armourers of the City of London '^ the forbidden 
Grauntlet, temp. Hen. YIIL** What particular 
piece of armour is this gauntlet ? And why does 
It bear the tide " forbidden '* P Sioma-Tau. 

Cape Town, Cape of Good Hope, April 80, 1861. 

Mb. Gobdon. — An English translation of Te- 
rence, by a Mr. Gordon, was published in 1752. 
Is this Mr. Gordon the same who published a 
translation of Livy ? R. InaLis. 

Gun QuBBT. — ^When lately visiting the Tower, 
and looking at the guns, &c. beneath the shade of 
the **keep,** I was shown, a great gun, which the 
wardens informed me and the other visitors was 
made of gold and other precious metal. I was 
also informed that the Jews had offered 20,000/. 
for it, while twelve inches had been cut off, sent 
to Birmingham, and when melted was found to be 
worth 80^0^ Not putting much faith in these 
assertions, I beg to ask any of your correspon- 
dents who may Know the facts to favour me with 
some account of the same. 

For guidance, I may as well state that inscrip- 
tions on the gun tell us that it was " founded** by 
Muhamed, son of Hamzet Allah;** that it was 
" made by the order of Sultan Solyman, son of 
Selim, for an invasion of India, in the year of the 
Hegira, 937** (a.d. 1530) ; and that it was *' taken 
at the capture of Aden, January, 1839, by the 
expedition under command of Captain H. Smith, 
C.B., of H. M. Ship * Voyager.* ** T. C. N. 

Hbbaldic. — I shall be obliged to any of /our 
readers who will kindlj inform me to what nuni- 
lies belong the following arms, which were /br- 
merly to be seen in the windows of a parish church 
in Dorset : — 

1. Az. 3 covered cups, or. 

2. Arg. a chev. az. betw. 3 branches of grapes 
(or mulberries) gules. (Vide Symonds*8 X>iafy, 
p. 128., Camden Soc, 1859.) W. S. 

CoBBBLius HoLLARD. — Can you refer me to 
any biographical notice of Cornelius Holland, who 

was a member of the Council of State for the year 

1652 ? NiHBVBH. 

Lbomibstbb Notes abd Qubbibs«—- 

1618. P<i To the Erl« of Derbyet Players - V 

pd To the Lady Elisabeth, her Players • x* 

P* To the Erie of Sussex's Players - v» 

pd To the Queen's Players - - - v» 

1620. P* To the King of Bobemy, his Players x» 

1664. F* to Mr. Bond for wine for the Major- 

General 18 

For DyeU for the Major-Qeni and his 

Company 10 

For Beere, tobacco, and barot Sydar - 1 4 

To Mr. Ensall, for Sack ... 40 

To the Rioeers for Beere - - - 8 
1656. For Djett for the Major-tGeneral and bis 

Lady 10 

For Beere, tobacco, and Sydar - - 7 
For a Quart of Sack, and a quart of 

white wine, and sugar ... 86 

To the Ringers 4 

These items appear in the Chamberlain*s ac- 
counts for the borough of Leominster, for the 
respective years assigned to them. The Querist 
would be especially obliged if the editor of '* N. k 
Q.** would insert them ; and if any of the readers 
of " N. & Q.'* could enable him to ascertain most 
especially who was the Major-General alluded to. 
Who, in a word, was the officer in the military 
command of the counties of Worcester, Herefovd 
(and Salop, or of the two first counties), under 
the Commonwealth, a.d. 1656 ? T. 

"List of Jo&ticbs of Pbacb,** etc. — I possess 
an octaTO volume which I am very anxious to 
identify, but owing to the loss of the title I am 
unable to do so. It consists of a list of tlie Jus- 
tices of Peace and High Sheriffs for the Counties 
of England and Wales. It was issued sometime 
between the death of King Charles I. and the ap- 
pointment of Oliver Cromwell to the office of 
Lord Protector. It is important to me to know 
its exact date. Gbimb. 

Lamhc AS. — In ii New Survey of the West 
Indies, or the EnglUh Americauy his Travail by 
Sea and Land, written by Thomas Gage, and pul>- 
lished in 1655, at London, the following passages 
appear. At p. 128, speaking of the decoration of 
the chamber of a nun of Guatemala, Gage says : 

** But above all, she placed her delight in a private 
chappell or closet to pray in, being hung with rich hang- 
ings, and round about it costly lammoM (as they call 
them), or pictures painted upon brasse, set in ebony 
frames," &c. 

And at p. 189, bewailmg his capture at sea, and 
spoliation by a Hollander man-of-war, the author 
writes : 

** Other things I had (as a Quilt to lie on, some Books, 
and Lamimas, which are pictnres in brasse)." 

He subsequently refers to the restoration of his 
" brasse pictures.** 
What are these pietoreB ? I Mk the question, 

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because I possess what may perhaps be considered 
a lamina. The work I have is in brass rejxmssS, 
an irregular octagon in shape, about 12 x 8 inches : 
the subject is Europa, her attendants, and the 
bull. The figures and costume bear a strong re- 
semblance to the style of Rubens. Traces of both 
paint and gilding still remain. 

The manner in which this object reached mj 
hands, is somewhat curious. A few jears ago, 
whilst a Sardinian ship was Ijing at Callao, some 
emeute took place ; and a convent in the locality 
being plundered, my brass plaque, and sundry 
small p»aintings, and a marble alto riUevOj were 
purchased from a looter by the captain of the 
vessel. With the objects so procured, he de- 
corated his cabin, where they remained till two 
jears back, when his ship was wrecked in enter- 
ing Table Bay. The brass then passed from him 
into my possession. 

I shall be yery glad to receive some information 
relative to the subject of this Note. Sigma-Tau. 

Gape Town, Cape of Good Hope, May 6, 1861. 

Mako& Law. — I ahall be grateful to any one 
who, through the medium of ^N. &Q,," will 
direct me to the best works, ancient or modem, 
which treat on Manors, Manor Law« and the 
RigHts and Customs connected therewith. I re- 
quire the information for historical and anti- 
quarian, not for legal, purposes. Gbimb. 

Mat Poles. — On a visit this day to the pleasant 
Aldermaston, one of the neatest and most agree- 
able of Berkshire viUages, I was struck by its lofty 
May-pole ; standing in a commanding position at 
the top of the street, and right in front of the 
lodge entrance to the park. It is about seventy- 
five feet in height, surmounted by a wind- vane 
and a crown. Recent attention in the way of 
painting and repair proves that the parish, or its 
principal resident, is commendably careful of this 
interesting relic. Is there any list of the May- 
poles remaining in England ? Such a list would 
not be without its use, especially if a brief note 
were added on the present condition of the 
pole ; and whether it is ancient, or a modem re- 
storation or re-introduction, of which I believe 
there have been several within the last few years. 

U. G. S. 

QuEBiBs ON Oldham. — Oldham's rough and 
sturdy; satires are full of obscure allusions, on 
which no doubt some of the readers of *^N. k Q.** 
can throw much li^ht. The references are made 
to the edition published by Messrs. John W. Par- 
ker & Son, 1854, with notes, &c. by Mr. Robert 

Thus, in Satire III., p. 112, we read : — 
"How hosts distressed her (the Blessed Virgin's) smock 
for banner bore, 

Which vaoqiiished foes, and murdered at twdve teare. 

Relate how fish in conventicles met. 

And mackarel were with bait of doctrine eaoghl^ 

How cattle hare judicious hearers been, 

And stones pathetically cried, ' Amen I ' 

How consecrated hive with bella was hnng. 

And bees kept mass, and holy anthems sung ; 

How pigs to the roeary kneeled, and sheep were taught 

To bleat Te Denm and Magnificat:" 

ancTso on through a long passage. 
Again, in Satire IV., p. 126 : Of holy water: — 

" This would have silenced quite the Wiltshire drum, 
And made the prating fiend of Mascon dumb.*' 

Again, in the "Imitation of the Thirteenth 
Satire of Juvenal,*' p. 182 ; — 

** Compare the sacrilegious burglary. 
From which no place can sanctuary be. 
That rifies churches of communion-plate, 
Which good King Edward's days did dedicate ; 
Think, who durst steal St. Alban's font of brass. 
That christened half the royal Scottish race ; 
Who stole the chalices at Chichester, 
In which themselves received the day before." 

What i» the meaning of the word pulvilio, which 
occurs in p. 191 ? Who was " Irish Emma,** men- 
tioned in p. 127 ? C. B. Y., 

Cabdimaii PoLB.— Perhaps your bibliographical 
correspondents can give me some information re- 
lative to the following privately-printed work : — 

** EpistolsB duiB, duorum Amioomm, ex quibus vana 
flagitioeaque Pontificnm Pauli Tertii, et JuUi Tertii, et. 
Cardinalis Poll, et Stophani Gardineri pseudo-episcopi 
Wintoniensis Angli, eorumque adulatorum sectatorumque 
ratio, magna ex parte potest intelligL Apocalypsis, Cap. 
18. Cum PapsB priTilegio ad monnmentum horse." 

It consists of twelve leaves including title; there 
is neidier date nor place of printing. The last 
four leaves or eight pages are " De studio et Zelo 

Eietatis Cardinalis Poli.** We learn not only that 
e was the greatest ecclesiastic at Rome — that 
his honours were almost papal — but that he lived 
**spe potiundi Pontificatus.** Surely this little 
tractate must be very scarce, J. M. 

RiHO QuBBT.— Can any of the readers of " N. 
k Q.*' give an explanation of the meaning of a 
sentiment expressed in a ring of which the follow- 
ing is a description. 

It is supposed to be of the Cinque Cento period ; 
and the design is — two hearts placed in juxta- 
position diamondwise, surmounted by a ooronet of 
five smaller hearts : the centre stones of the two 
large hearts, in the original antique, are an al- 
mandine and a cairngorm [?], surrounded by small 
diamonds ; and the five small hearts in the crown 
are diamonds, its base being also of the same. ^. 

John Stockbb. — Any information concerning 
John Stocker, Gentleman, of Honiton, Devon, 
who composed several hymns for the Gospel Ma- 
gazine, in the years 1776—1777, date of his birth 
and death, if known, or of any of his relatives, if 
still living, will be gratefully received by 

D4MiB|:i Sbdqwicx, 

Son Street, Cit^. 

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CHRisTorHEB Stbum EUU8. — Who wfts Christo- 
pher Stromelius, the author of Siudentes^ ConuBdia 
de Vila Studtosorum, whidi was printed in 15SS ? 
and where is anj aceoont of the drama to be 
found ? J. M. 

Wabwick and Spehgbb Familus. — AiA I 
right in considering the figure of a bear and 
rag&;ed staff as belonging to the Earls of War- 
wick, and them only f Also, what connexion 
was there and when, with Spencer that could have 
caused certain property to be designated ** War- 
wick and Spencer*s land f** F. 8. 

BiBTH or Nafolbon n. — My attention has 
recently been called to the following nassaffe in 
Histoire tie VEvupertwr NapoUom^ par r. M.Xau- 
rent de L*Ard^c : — 

«*Le 19 Man, 1811, rimp^ratrice Bfarie-LoniM m- 
sentit les premieres doaleara de renfantement On craig- 
nit d'abord des coaches ptfrilleases: le c^Mre DuboTs, 
prtfroyant la cas oil uno operation difficile devindimit 
nfeeaatire, domanda ca aa*U iSuidrait fairs ai I'on ^tait 
r^uit & opter entre le saiat de la m^ et celoi de Ten- 
fant * Ne pensez qa'jk la m^re,' dit vivement remperear, 
eo qui let affsctioos de rbomMe triomphWeat, h, ce 
jnomeiit tolennel, dea iat^r^ et dea oombinaiaona da 
monarqae," &c. 

I have, I think, in some Memoirs of Napoleon, 
seen a directly contrary statement, visp> that in 
his anxiety to have an heir to his throne, the 
Emperor directed the surgeons, under the cir- 
cumstances referred to, to save the child at what- 
ever hazard to the safety of the Empress ; and I 
shall be much obliged if any of vour readers can 
refer me to the work in which tne statement oc- 
curs. J. S, 

[The drcamstances of the birth of the KinffoT Borne 
are thus described by J. G. Lockhart, The Higtory of 
Napoleon Bwmaparte^ 2 vols. 1829, ii. 126 {FamUy Li' 
braty) :--«'0d the 20th of April, 1811, Ni»oleon's wishes 
were crowned bv the birUi of a sod. The birth was a 
difficult one, and the nerves of the medical attendants 
were shaken. * She is but a woman,' said the Emperor, 
who was present, * treat her as you would a boorgeoise of 
the Roe St Denis.' The accoachear, at a sabeegoent 
mooMot, withdrew Xapeleoa firoai the oonch and de- 
manded whether, in case one life must be aaorifioad, ha 
ahoald prefer the mother or the child? * The mother's,' 
he aoswered, * it is her right I ' At length the child ap- 
peared, bat without any signs of life. After the lapse of 
some minates a feeble cry was heard. Napoleon entering 
the ante-chamber in which the high fkneUonaries were 
assembled, announced the event in these words: 'It is A 
KiKG or ROMB.'*] 

G. HiGoiHs's WoBBLS. — I am anxious to see a 
complete list of the works of the late Godfrey 
Hiffgins, Esq., F.S.A , of Skellow Grange, the 
author of the Celtic Druids, K. P. D. E. 

[In addition to the list of Mr.' Higgins's works printed 
m the Gmu Mag, for Oct 1888, p. 871, we may ad4 the 

following : Anacaljfpm, an Attempt to draw atide the Veil 
of the Saitic I$i$ ; or, an Inquiry into the Origin ofLan* 
gmage$, NathnM, and ReUgione, 2 vols. 4ta, 1886. Vol XL 
was edited by O. Smallfield.] 

**Thb Etoniah." — Has any list ever been pub- 
lished of the writers for this periodical, specifying 
the contributions of each ? If not, could it now 
be done ? Who wrote the poem in it on the story 
of Godiva,? Uneda. 


[At the end of the second volume of The Etoniam, f^ 
441—444, wiU be (band a list of contributora. ** Godiva '* 
is by John Moultrie of Trinity College, Cambridge.] 

Jewish HaBBiAOBS. — What is the reason that 
most Jewish marriages, mentioned in the news- 
papers, take place on a Wednesday? Is there 
some religious reason in favonr of tbiat day f 


[Among the Jews a virgin marries on the fourth day, 
beoanse the aieembly of the Twenty-three meet on the 
fifth s 80 that if the husband sboold find his wife un- 
worthy, he may have recourse to the consistory in the 
heat of his displeasure, and procure just punishment ac-* 
eerding to law.— Vidt Pr. LighlA>ot*8 Worht, ed. 1684, ii 



(2nd S. xL 424.) 

The interesting communications from A Sta- 
TiORBB and J. 6. N., that have appeared in re* 
cent numbers of ^K. & Q.,** will, I hope, have the 
effect of drawing public attention to the disgrace- 
ful manner in which the monuments of the dead 
are sometimes tampered with. There can be no 
doubt that altering a monumental inscription, and 
makinff it say now what it did not say when first 
erected, is a greater evil than the enture destruc* 
tion of the memorial : for in the one case we have 
but the loss of knowledge to lament, in the other 
we are made to believe tbat to have been which 
never was. There is, in fact, all the difference 
between suppression of evidence and bearing false 
witness. The losses, however, which we are daily 
sustaining from the Land of the destroyer, are of 
very alarming extent : their magnitude is quite 
unknown to all except the few antiquaries and 
genealogists who make these matters an object of 
study. The late historian of Hallamshire and 
South Torlcshire, who was one of the most learned 
and careful genealogists that ever existed, felt 
very strongly on this subject. The following re- 
marks by him have appeared in a small volame 
just issued from the press : — 

*< The prospect is, that we shall in a very fiBW years be 
deprived of sil the evidanee of this kind which we now 
possess. The destruction of the parish monaments is 
like the dastructi<Mi of a aaaiwcript exisUitg in a single 

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■ow'; aad ii Ihere are many doll (lages in a^hnrohyArdt 
JO I am afraid there are in many mannscripts ; and in 
both they are atoned for by passages of interest — either 
for the information they convey, or i^ appeal they make 
to the imagination or the feelinga." * 

If the public could be made aware of the loss 
that it 18 sufTering, something would be done : for 
if the legislature gave no nelp, public opinion 
would be so strong that the enl would cease ; as 
it is, however, I am persuaded that almost every 
one IS quite ignorant of the value of this kind of 
evidence. A few y^ars a^ (July and Aug. 1858) 
the OenUentan^s Magazine reprinted from the 
Morning Past a letter signed " K./* which depicted 
in strong colours the doisge of the modem Yan- 
dals. This document, and the correspondenee 
fallowing thereon, were, I kave reason to know, 
the means of doing much good in man than one 
sliire of England ; but the fSkci has now gone off^ 
and church beautifiers have resumed tieir de« 
structive habits with more than former violence. 

In the year 1858, a proposal was issued by the 
Society of Antiquaries, which, had it been acted 
npon, would ere this have pot tiie moBumentel 
inscripiions of Eneland beyond the reach of the 
destroyer. I fear that noth»g whatever was done 
except the printing of the circular. 

To give instances, in proof of what I hare said, 
is easy enough ; but unless I were to publish a 
folio volume of tabulated faets, I should fail to 
conTey to minds that hare not considered these 
things the magnitude and extent of the evil that 
has been done and suffered. I fear that in nearly 
erery church that is restored, the sepulchral slabs, 
unless beautiful in themselves, or reUtiag to some 
family yet residing in the neighbourhood, are 
either broken up or buried under the new £oor. 
This has been the case at Bottesford, Frodingham, 
and ]^jrton-in-Lindsey, in the county of Lincoln ; 
at Leigh, Prittieweu, and* Bowers-Oiffbrd, in 

It is not the gentry akme wfM> suffisr by this: — 

*' Baaiiv the characters of our renown, 

* Defacing monuments 

Undoing all, as aU had asmt besn.'' 

They have other memorials of their descent — 
Heralds* visitations, title-deeds, and printed obi- 
toiuries — but the poor have none of tnese things : 
for tbeoD, when the days of their pilgrimi^e are at 
an end, there is no record but the parish register, 
and the humble stone which the loving hands of 
kinsmen have placed over their graves. Jill re- 
centlvf parish registers have been so kept as to 
afford little genealogical information ; therefore, 
when the gravestone is swept away from its little 
mound of earth in the churchyard, it often hap- 
pens that the tracing of a poor man's pedigree is 
rendered impossible. To many this will seem a 

* The late Joseph Hanter, as quoted in Rcr. C. B* 
MfaMMi's mutor^tfSmmOh 1861, p.li7. 

light evil ; but there are others who looking on, 
such matters from a higher and more philoso- 
phical point of view, are aware that the oesire to 
possess knowledge concerning our ancestors arises 
from no vulgar pride of family ; but from a 
natural instinct of the human heart, which makes 
us long to connect ourselves with the far-off past. 
This instinct is felt as much by the poor as by the 
rich : it displays itsdf as strongly in the yaoauHi 
and the peasant as it dees in the nobleman. It is 
one of tnose elements in our English character, 
which have produced our present " well-ordered 

The desire for genealogical knowledge, which 
shows itself in many self-raised men, is as far as 
possible removed from that pride of family whidi 
all honourable men despue. There are many 
novi homines among us, whose pleasure in the 
possession of a proved pet^gree from a long line 
of yeomen or peasant ancestors, is as great, and 
springs from as noble a feeling as l^at which leads 

a . «... or a to dwell with pride on his 

descent from tlie house of Piantagenet. We most 
of us — all indeed, except the members of some 
half-dozen families whom it would be easy to 
name — are sprung in many lines from the com- 
mon people : there are not many, we wUl hope, 
who are aidiamed of thb, or would wish to blot it 
from their own or other people's memory. Is it 
not then a grievous thing, that by the meddling 
of churchwardens and others, we should be de- 
prived of that which we now value highly, and 
which future ages will reprobate us for navin^^ 
permitted ignorant people to destroy ? 

Genealogical investigations have alwa/s pre- 
sented great attractions to a free people ; as our 
race becomes more educated, it is probable that 
the pleasure taken in the study of family history 
will oe much more general than it is now. Al- 
ready, America and Australia look to us to furnish 
them with memorials of their forefathers. 

£dwabj> Peacock. 

Bottesford Manor, Brigg. 

In Twyford Church, in the parish of Benow, 
Derbyshire, there wae a mem<Hrial inacription in 
which I am interested. I believe it would have 
proved a genealogieal fact of which I fear it was 
the only record. The following extract from a 
clergyman's letter will show tl^ amount of evi- 
dence now to be derived from this ill-protected, 
so-<»lled '* memorial :^' — 

" Some years ago (I don't exactly know how many) a 
stranger, obtaining the keys of the church, stayed a ooa- 
sideraUe time in it. It was found afterwards, that he 
had been engaged in the almost entire defacing of the 
hiscription npon this marble. Looking close at It lately, 
I was enabled to distinguish the name of * Ward,' and 
* 1660;' as I think.** 

CoiAinent is needleofl* Can any of your corre- 

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spondents refer me to any book containing copies 
of inscriptions on tombs or tablets in Twyford 
Church ? Some county histories contain such 
particulars. Or in what other manner could- I 
nope to recover this obliterated inscription ? 

T. E. S. 



(2«> S. xi. 385. 455.) 

"My mother's father,** says Horace Walpole, 
" was a timber-merchant I have many reasons 
for thinking myself a worse man, and none for 
thinking myself better." The above is from a 
letter to Mason, Sep. 25, 1771. In another letter 
to Mason, 13 April, 1782, Walpole describes his 
mother's father as a " Danish timber-merchant — 
an honest sensible Whig, and,*' he adds, " I am 
very proud of him.** Sir John Shorter, the Lord 
Mayor, " in his will, speaks of his son John (X«ady 
WfUpole's father), as a Norway merchant.** (See 
Note to the letter of Sep. 25, 1771, by Cunnmg- 
ham.) Either description is correct, as Mr. 
Shorter, probably, did what timber-merchants do 
now — import the material from Denmark, or 
Norway, or Sweden, according to convenience 
and the market-prices. It is not unlikely that 
John, the father of Lady Walpole, succeeded to 
the business carried on by his own father, Sir 
John, whose will would be worth searching by 
those curious on this point, as a document wherein 
their curiosity might find satbfaction. Horace 
Walpole was quite justified in not being ashamed 
of his descent from the worthy and wealthy tim- 
ber-merchant There are scores of similar cases, 
and the peerage is none the worse for them. The 
Cottinghams sleep none the worse for the thought 
of John Pepys, citizen and clock-maker. Ae 
young heir-presumptive to the dukedom of Wel- 
lington has every reason to be proud of the me- 
mory of his great, great grandmother, Sarah 
Hoggins, the farmer's daughter, of Bolas, and the 
mother of the present Marquis of Exeter. The late 
Duchess of Hamilton, Miss Susan Beckford, was 
the descendant, through four removes, of a re- 
spectable tailor of Maidenhead, and she never 
sang " Auld Robin Gray** a whit the less touch- 
ingly on that account These matters have been 
registered by peerage-compilers, set down by 
chroniclers, and illustrated by poets. WalpoleVi 
Letters show how the daughters of peers married 
with commoners, actors, and even footmen; the 
annals of the Stuarts tell of two of the sons of 
Charles II. and James II. respectively, marrying 
two sisters, who are designated as ^' pouIterer*s 
daughters.** There was a dowager-countess of 
Winchelsea, some hundred and thirty years ago, 
who married a wine- merchant ; three quarters of 
a century nnce, » daughter Qf th^ Earl of Shrews- 

bury became the wife of a provincial actor, who 
turned picture-dealer ; and a son of Giubilei, the 
singer, as lucky and as deserving as Gallini, the 
dancer, is said to have won from the balcony a 
Juliet who was born in the ermine. ^^ Qu*est ce 
que cela fait ? Tant qu*on pent se parer de son 
propre m^rite (says St. Evremond) on n*emploie 
point celui de ses anc6tres.** J. Dobah, 

(2»^ S. xl. 392.) 

An engraving in a circle by Greo. Noble from 
an ancient painting entitled "Rosamund Clif- 
forde,** was "published by E. Evans, Great Queen 
Street, Lincoms Inn Fields,** some years ago. It 
was brought to my notice, together with a picture 
belonging to Mrs. Mitton, or Mytton, living near 
Welshpool, which picture, though different from 
the print in some details, besides being on a rec- 
tangular canvas of the size usually or technically 
called " a three-quarter,** (the canvas being three- 
quarters of a yard in widtM* was evidently a 
portrait of the same party. I was requested to 
fill up a small damage in the face and neck, as 
much value was attached to the picture, Uien 
considered to be that of Fair Rosamond, but 
which I was told " the oldest man on Mrs. Myt- 
ton*s estate said, *They used to call her Jane 

"The habit of the times** to which Samuel 
Gide refers in his description of the picture he 
had seen, I presume must be understood to mean 
the " times in which he considers the picture 
to have been painted,— those of Henry VIl., very 
close upon those of Jane Shore; for the costume 
of the times of Fair Rosamond was as unlike that 
in the picture he has described as can possibly be 

The picture which was sent to me was still 
more dose to the period of Jane Shore than either 
the description of Mr. Gale, or the print published 
by Mr. Evans, having the peculiar projecting veil 
supported by a piece of whalebone, or some such 
material, from the forehead, which a considerable 
investigation of costume has only shown me in 
the representation of "habits** at the later periods 
of Henry VL and Edward IV.*s reigns. To this 
I may add that in Mr. Evans*s print there is a 
shadow on the forehead which could only be ac- 
counted for by the existence of such a veil in the 
original picture, from which his print was taken. 
At the same time I must say that the veil in 
Mrs. My tton*s picture was remarkably transparent, 
and might not have been understood by the en- 
graver. But knowing the liberties which are and 
were constantly taken with the engravings from 
pictures, in order to make them more suitable to 
" the public taste,** I ekould hav^ attached lesa 

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importance to these variations in detail had I not 
last year, in an ezcarsion with the Archeological 
Society of Liverpool, visited Chirk Castle, near 
Llangollen, and found another portrait of the 
same lady, but with some further differences in 
details of dress, from the picture and engraving 
which I have noticed. The face could never be 
mistaken, — beautiful, depressed, but with an ez- 

Sression that suggests that after the death of 
ling Edward IV., she might be open to comfort 
from Lord Hastings. I do not remember any 
trace of cup or cover. The painting in the two 
{MCtures I have seen was very delicate — other 
artists might call it timid — but very correct and 
finished in execution and colour ; and the jewels, 
embroidery, and details of costume, to the trans* 
parent veil, were so successfully executed, that I 
am tempted to ask those of your correspondents 
who have more time or opportunity to devote to 
chronology than I have, to endeavour to ascertain 
who the artist could have been with power to pro- 
duce such pictures, and still remain unknown. 

I have an impression on my mind that I ap- 
plied to Mr. Evans, when I got his print, to know 
what and where was his original, and that he told 
me it was engraved for George Yertue, and the 
plate sold after bis death. This point Mr. Evans*s 
sons in the Strand could probablv corroborate or 
correct. Frask Howabd. 


(2»« S. xi. 368.) 

I suspect that the writer On the Rise of the 
Drama knew little of the Spanish dramatists, 
but wished to say something. A regular play by 
so irr^ular an author as Calderon, would hardly 
have escaped the notice of his biographers, edi- 
tors, and critics. I have read some of his works, 
and what Bouterweck, Sismondi, Schack, and 
Ticknor say of him, and I find no evidence of re- 
gularity. I^eii, in the Life of Calderoru, prefixed 
to his edition of the Comedias^ Leipsi^ue, 1827, 
says: **£mpezo grande con la (comedia) de El 
Carro del Cielo^ de poco mas que trece ailos, y 
acabo soberano con la de Hado y Divisa de 
ocbenta j una.*^ JEl Carro dd Cielo is not in 
Keil's edition, nor in the six volumes of AutoSy 
Madrid, 1717. Is it preserved P 

I do not find any Memoirs of Lope de Vega 
written by himself. Neither he nor Calderon 
was driven by " poverty '* to pla^ -writing ; and it 
ia not likely that so good a courtier as Lope would 
have expressed an opinion against the taste of the 
court. The following passage will show that he 
complied with that of the paying public : — 

** Yerdad es que yo he escrito algunas veces, 
Sigaiendo el arte qae conocen pocos ; 
Mas loego que talir por otra parte 
Teo los monstros de apariencias Uenos, 

A donde acade el vulgo y las mngeres, 
Qae este triste exercicio canonizan, 
A aqael habito barbaro me vuelvo : 
T quaodo he de escriber una comedia, 
Encierro los preceptos con seis llaves ; 
Saco a Terencio y Plaato de mi cstadio 
Para qae no me den voces, qae suele 
Dar gritos la verdad en libros mados ; 
T escribo por el arte que inventaron 
Loa qae.el vulgar aplaoso pretendieron, 
Porqae eomo lat paga d mdgOf eajuMto 
HaMorlt en neeio para darle gu$to" 
(Arte nuevo de Hacer OomedkUf Obra$ Sudtis de Lope 
de Vega, t iv. p. 406, Madrid, 1776, 4to.) 

I may be excused for adding another passage 
from the same poem, as an instance of deference 
to the throne in Spain, the subject having been 
recently so well treated by Mr. Buckle, in the 
second volume of his History of Civilization : — 
** Elijase el sogeto, y no se mire 
(Perdonen los preceptos) si es de Reyes, 
Aunqae por esto entiendo qae el pradente 
Philipo, Rey de EspaBa, y SeSor nnestro, 
En viendo nn Bey en ellos se eofadaba. 
O ftaesae el ver que al arte contradice, 
O que la autoridad Real no dcbe 
Andar flngida entre la humilde plebe." 

Id, p. 410. 

Is this Philip the Second or Third P The second 
died 1598, and the poem was published in 1609 ; 
but Ticknor (ii. 304, Spanish translation)^ says 
that Lope read it some years before to his friends. 

H. B. C. 

U. U. Club. 

Db. Gbobob Rust (2*>< S. xi. 343. 418.) : Bishop 
Jbrbmt Tatlob. — Some notices of Bishop Rust 
will be found in the closing chapters of Arch- 
deacon Bonney*s Life of Bishop Jeremy Taylor^ 
where, in reference to Joseph Glanvirs eulogy, it 
U further added he was — 

** A person of whom no commendation could be extrava- 
gant .... He was one of the first that surmounted the 
prejudices of the system that was adopted in education 
during the unhappy times in which he resided in the uni- 
versity .... He outgrew the pretended orthodoxy of 
those days, and addicted himself to the nrimitive learn- 
ing and theology in which he even then (during his resi- 
dence in Christ^s College) became a great master." 

In a note, at p. 326. of the above work, it is 
stated : — 

"Ruat was first of St Catharine's Hall in Cambridge, 
and was a member of that society in 1646, when he took 
hia degree of B.A.. But he had removed to Christ's 
More he eommeneed Master, as appears from the Register 
of the University, copied by Baker in bis MS. notes to 
Wood*8 Athen, Oxm., in which George Rust is entered, 
« Art Mr. Coll. Chr. 1660.* " 

"In the same vault wiih Bishop Taylor were after- 
wards interred the remains of Bishops Rust, Digbj, and 
Wiseman." — 2Vb<«, p. 866. 

It is there stated that no memorial of the place 
of burid of these distinguished prelates existed at 
the date of the work alluded to (1815.) Does any 
now exbt ? 

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Can MsssBS. C. H. k Thompsok Cooper ^to 
whose courtesj and kindneM in forwarding replies 
so many correspondents of " N. & Q.** are already 
largely indebted) state what authority exists for 
the second marriage of Bishop Taylor with Joanna 
Bridges, and when it took place f Is she alluded 
to when it is stated that Bishop Taylor married a 
natural daughter of King Charles, which I have 
somewhere seen ? There is a frsgoMrnt of a letter 
from the bishop to Sir Wm. Dugdale, Garter, 
printed in the Diary and Correspondence of Sir 

Wm. Dvgdale, Knt.<i edited by Wm. Hamper, 
Esq., P.S.A., dated from " Groldengrove, April 
1, lOSl,** in which he says "I have but lately 
buried my deare wife/* If this was his first wife, 
Phoebe Langsdale, it accounts for the silence re- 
specting her in his subsequent correspondence, for 
no trace of a second marriage is to be found in 
the Ltfe before quoted, which states his surviving 
issue to be by his first wife. In a letter dated 
Feb. 22, 1656-7, p. 254., he says— "I have, 
since I received your last, buried two sweety hope- 
ful bovs, and have now but one son left.** *' It is 
remarkable,** says his biographer, "that Taylor 
makes no reference to his wife or daughters on 
this occasion.** 

On the bi8hop*s appointment to Dromore, in 
June, 1661 (only four years later\ " his daughter 
Joanna presented the plate for tne communion.** 
In the inscription thereon she is described — "hu- 
millima Domini ancilla D. Joanna Taylor.** Could 
this be the second wife, Joanna Bridges P 

HaHBT W. ». Tati^ob. 


Chakgbs of THB MooK (2** S. xi. 406.) — The 
moon on the 2nd April entered her last quarter, or 
quadrature, consequently her next quadrature was 
on the 18th, being the first Quarter or quadrature 
of the new moon of the 1 0th. Tour correspon- 
dent thinks there are four quarters in a lunation, 
but there are only two : for when the sun^ earth, 
and moon are in the same i^ane^ the moon is in 
conjunction or opposition to the earth, and these 
two points are termed syzystiee : when the moon, 
in her orbit, is at right angles to the syzygies, she 
is in quadrature. 

The moon being in that point of her orbit where 
she is between the earth and the sun, and nearest 
to a directrline drawn from the earth's centre to 
the sun*s centre, she is termed new moon ; as she 
proceeds in her orbit, she appears of a orescent 
form till her first quadrature or quarter of her 
orbit, when she is half light and half dark. As 
she proceeds from this quadrature she becomes 
gibbous, till on reaching the next syzygy, having 
passed through half her orbit, she becomes fvSl 
moon, the earth being in the line between her and 
the sun. Proceeding from this- syzygy of oppo- 
sition she again becomes gibbous, as respects the 
opposite half of her face, till she reaches the last 

quadrature or quarter, when she appears again 
half illuminated ; after this she reassumes a cres<^ 
cent shape until she reaches the syzygy of con- 
junction, and there becomes new moon again. 
{Astronomy, S. U, K. 71.) The French Alma- 
nacs concur with the British in enumerating two 
quarters only — the first and last. 

T. J. BucxTow. 

Bishop amd Divinb (2^ S. v. 414.) — I do not 
think there is any bishopric of E — g. Perhaps g 
is misprinted for y. In 1703, Patrick was Bishop 
of Ely: — 

« It had not been lawfal, 1 know^ to ban worshipped 
Elijah^ though he bad beea an angel, yet metbinks I 
see Elisba bowing down with some respect to the very 
mantle which fcH from his master, and taking it up as a 
precioos reliqae of so holy a man ; and I conld very well 
pass some cfvility on the gown in which this holy man 
departed used to walk* oat of the great honour which I 
bear to him " (p. 608.).— ^S^aci Ducounet of John Smithy 
M.A., late of Queem^s College, to which is added a Sermon 
preached at the author's funeral, by Simon Patrick, D.D., 
then Fellow of the same College, afterwards Bishop of Ely. 
8vo., Cambridge, 1859. 

All who have read Smith*s Discourses know 
how totally groundless is the imputation of the 
pamphleteer. Perhaps that against Patrick \b 
equ^Iy so. His works have lately been collected 
and reprinted in several octavo volumes. If any 
reader of them should come upon what Is called 
the derision of the Holy Scapularies, I shall be 
glad to see H in "N. ft Q.** H. B. C. 

U. U. Qub. 

Hail's •* Satikes " (2"« S. xi. 448.) —It is a 
pity to see so much learning wasted on the sab- 
ject of Maro*s SimmUu and Cyhale-^th^ trtie 
meaning of the passage evidently being that 
ascribed to it by Mb. Ebiortlbt. 

It is doubted whether Virgil wrote the poem 
which furnished this allusion, or translated it from 
the Greek of Parthenius. Cowper rendered it 
admirably into English in 1799, na his friend 
Lloyd had before done in 1768. 

It does not seem by any means clear that tiie 
right meaning of ^paups has been hit upon ; 
though I am unable to furnish a better. The 
meal, in the original, seems to have been kneaded 
into a tough paste, not served as a " pap ** or por- 
ridge. Nor has pap, properly so call^, any plural 
form. Douglas Allfobt. 

Nbwton Motto (r2°* S. xi. 870.)— This motto 
may have some reference to the crest which is 
properly Cradock*s, and is variously described as 
a wild man^ — a man in armour, — and an Eastern 
prince ; " intended," says Burke, " for the repre- 
sentation of Caradoc, the Caractacus of the Ko- 
mans.** The present representative, Lord Howden, 
has adopted the ancient spellmg, Garadoc, and*the 
motto of the family ** Traditus non Tietus ** is an 

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aUonon to the eirent of which the crest hi an ex- 
hibition. Wotton, boweTer, states under the 
•• Newtons of Barr's Court,*' BaroneU (vol. ii. 
p. 129. ed. I727p, extinct in 174$, that the crest 
which he describes as '* a kinp; of the Moors, 
armed in mail, crowned, or, kneeling and deliver- 
ing op his sword,'* was borne *' in allusion to the 
maternal ancestor of the family. Sir Ancel Gomey, 
having taken a Moorish king prisoner at the 
winning of Acorn *, temp» Rich. 1." The change 
of name fh>m Cradock to Newton was first made 
by Sir Richard Cradock, Lord Chief Justice of 
England in the fifteenth century. 

Hehbt W. S. Tayloe. 

Raisihq of Lazabds (2»* S. xi. 378.) —I am 

obliged to your several correspondents who have 

given me information on this subject through 

Sour columns. J. C. H. will find accounts of 
acopo Palma (il Vecchio and il Giovine) and jof 
Lucas Eilian, stepson of Dominick Custos, in 
Brian's Dictionary of Painters and Engravera^ 
edit. London, 1816, vol. i. p. 600., and vol. ii. p. 
153. A new edition of this dictionary has been 
published by Bohn, 1849. Rbmigios. 

TB»rcHBBs QnAVBABT (2^ S. vi. 4980 — In 
the ourions account of the Inthronisation Feast of 
Archbishop Nevill (Leland, CoUeetanea^ vol. vi. 
p. 8.}, are these directions to the carver : — 

- Thtn vith jonr brode kajft^ taka oaeof the Treochsr 
stockes, and set it in yonr napkjn's ende in your left 
hande, and taks foar Trendun, eclis one after another, 
and lay them quadraM cms besydes another befbre the 
Lofdee seat," &c. 

Will this throw any light on that difficult pas- 
aage in Dame Jaliana Bemer*s Boke of 8t, Al* 
ban*ij where, treating of heraldry, shue defines 
several cfaams We cannot trace f Among others, 
"Elynellis ben callyd in armys four quadrantis 
truncholis.** A. A. 

Poets' Corner. 

Gambbbwbll (V^ S. Bi. 449.)— I'he triplet on 
Camberwell appears to be more of a rebos Uian 
a proverb — allusive to the supposed etymology of 
the name. The first two lines form the question ; 
the third gives the solution. 

Salmon, speakins of Camberwetl, says: ''It 
seems to be named from some mioeral water which 
was anciently in it**; which he supposes ''came 
afterwards into a quagmire, or was forgotten;** 
thouffh tradition asserts it to be the well which 
suppued the ornamental water at Grove Hill, 
when originally laid out by Dr. Lettsom. 

The " clumsy doggrel ** is also an answer bv 
implication ; but Abbacadabba might have hesi- 
tated to settle its paternity so summarily, had he 
known or remembered, that Byron himself was 

* Or Ascftlon. (See Burke's Armorf^ $mb, « Hewton of 
Crtteton Coart'O 

once a " Camberwellian," having gone to school 
in the parish ; and that the deathless poet, " who 
sang the ' Son^ of the Shirt,* " spent many of his 
best days withm sight of Camberwell Green. 


Chaplains* Scabw (2"* S. xi. 449.) — Mb. 
Sahsom's Query reminds me that mine, touching 
the precedency of chaplains to Lords SpiritufS 
and Temporal (2°<> S. x. 826.), has not yet been 
answered. I do not think that the ecdesiastioa 
status of chaplain, in the loose and general sense 
in which the word is now commonly used, is re- 
cognised by law. 

W hatever may be " the privileges, benefits, im* 
munities and advantages (I am quoting the words 
of my own appointment^ which may or do of right 
belong** to ohaplains, tney are, I apprehend, con* 
fined to the chaplains of bishops, peers, and gone* 
rally those by 21 Hen. YIIL c. 13., entitled to 
nominate and retain chaplains* But I am vei^ 
iffnorant as to the whole matter of chaplains, their 
mnction, privileges, ftc, and desire further know 
ledge. CAPBi.LAHUst 

EUFHBATBS, OB EuPHBATBS (2*** S. XI. 407.) — 

Forson is said to have written the epigram (of 
which the following is, I believe, a correct ver- 
sion) on a fellow of his college who habitually 
pronounced the & (short) : — 

** Yenit ad £nphrttem, rapidis perterritns andis, 
Ut cito tranairet, corripait flavium/' 

the two last words of which Jekyll rendered, 
" abridged the river.** 

May I be allowed to borrow Jekyll's wit and 
translate it thus : — 

••With fear, on the Euphrates* shore. 
The wild waves made him shiver ; 
. Bat he thought to pass more qnicUy o'er, 
And so abridged the river.** 

J.T. P 

FoBDTCE Castle (2** S. xi. 408.)— The fol- 
lowing extract from The Banffshire Journal of 
the 4th inst. may be of interest to the corre- 
spondent who asks for information on this sub- 

** We are sorrj to say that local information is entirely 
at fault on tbe snbjeet There is nothing about the 
Castle in the records of the parish ; nor, so far as we 
can learn, is there any information as to the history sA 
the Castle in the archives of Cullen Mouse, the residence 
of the noble proprietor, the Earl of Seafield. By whom, 
and for what purpose, it was bnile. Is involved in mys- 
tery. It is anderstood that it was built by one of the 
Ogilvies, as a jointure*honse for his lady. But this is 
mere conjecture. So also seems tbe idea that it was 
originally built«as a domicile for the priest of the parish. 
Above the entrance, the Castle bears date 1592. Its 
lower apartments are strongly yaulted with stone arches. 
It has also several of the accessories of a place of strength, 
such as gnn-holee» &&> in abundance. It was never de- 
stroyed, but by the powerful hand of time— which is 
now beginning to tell upon even its oaken rafters. The 
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oaitnriet to come. The Castle haa constantly been in- 
habited ap to this term, when the tenants were reqaested 
to remove, as it seems to be the intention of its noble 
proprietor to give it a thorongh repair.** 


Rbtkolds, Gbobge, LL.D. (2''' S. xi. 350, 399, 
496.) — In the register of baptisms in St. Neot*8 
church, I find [1701-2] «' Januarj 18, Eliza: filia 
Lauranoe TomBon, Gent.** Dr. Reynolds lived at 
Little Pazton. On the floor of the chancel of 
that church is a black marble slab inscribed to 
the memory of " Richard Reynolds, £sq., eldest 
son of the late Rev. George Reynolds, D.D., and 
Elizabeth Thomson his wife • •, • • J&n. 10, 1814, 
aged 86 years.** On another similar slab, ** Here 
lieth the body of the Rev. Dr. Greorge Reynolds 

who died June the 6th, 1769, aged 69 

years and 6 months. He married Elisabeth, 
daughter of Lawrence Thompson, Esq. of St. 
Neot*8 ....** On a third slab, ** In Memory of 
Elizabeth, daughter of Lawrence Thompson, and 
relict of the Kev. Dr. Geonre Reynolds .... 
died October 29th, 1784, aged 83.** On a silver 
candlestick given by Mrs. Reynolds for the pulpit 
of St. Neot*s church is engraved in Roman letters: 
" The Gift of E. Reynolds, widow." (Cf. Gorham's 
Hiit. ofEyneihury and St Neofa, i. 180.) Law- 
rence Thompson died 8 April, 1724, leaving two 
sons and one daughter {Ibid. 167), who is called 
Elizabeth in a sptendid vellum roll, written and 
emblasoned about 1720, containing the pedisree 
of Thompson. Joseph Rix, M.D. 

St Neot*s. 

ScAXLBTT Family ; Agihcoubt (2^'j S. xt. 
192.) — I have to offer some apology to Gbnba- 
XjOGUt for not earlier noticing his inquiries. The 
statement respecting Mrs. Anne Scarlett is given 
by Wotton within inverted commas, as if ex- 
tracted from another work, but no reference ac- 
companies it. The words I quoted at p. 478. 
vol. X. are part of the extract, and will be found 
in Wotton*s account of the Baronets Stonhouse of 
JEladley, vol. i. p. 299. Another celebrity of this 
name is or was commemorated by a painting and 
inscription in Peterborough Cathedral, vdeped 
"Old Scarlett,** sexton of Peterborough, who 
died July 2, 1594, aged ninety-eight. Two lines 
from his epitaph describe him as being — 

** Second to none for streng^ and stnrdye limm, 
A scare-babe mighty voice with visage grim ; ** 

and besides natural ciualifications, he is remark- 
able likewise for having " interred two aueena.** 
and the " town*s householders in his life s space 
twice over.*' I am sorry I can give Gbnvalogist 
no information as to " whether the doat armour of 
the gentry who fought at Agincourt is preserved.** 
Sir Harris Nicolas's Hutory of the Battle of Agin' 
cottrt only giving a roll of the men-at-arms in the 
English army, but does not give their armorial 
bearings. There exist, however, at the present 

day, two families descended from ancestors who 
distinguished themselves in that engagement, re- 
presented by Sir Thomas Wathen WiOler, Bart., 
and Rt. Hon. Lord Wodehouse. Of the former 
it is recorded that Sir Richard Waller, Ent, son 
of Thomas Waller of Groombrid^e, co. Kent, 
** took prisoner at the battle of Agmcourt, John 
Duke of Orleans ; from which time it hath been 
permitted to his descendants to bear pendent 
from their ancient crest (a walnut-tree, proper), 
the arms of the said Duke with this motto, ' Hie 
fructus Virtutis.*" The motto "Azincourt** is 
also used. Of the latter familv we read, — ^* John 
Wodehouse attended Hen. Y. m 1415 to the battle 
of Agincourt, when for his valour he was distin- 

guished by the king with a pension, and other 
onours» and as a perpetual mark, had assigned 
him the crest now borne bv the family, as well 
as the arms and supporters. Besides which he 
had « ?rant of Welles in Norfolk, and was so re- 
spected by King Hen. Y. '* that he gave him a gold 
cnain richly adorned with rubies and pearls, and 
constituted him one of his executors.* A refer- 
ence to anj illustrated Peerage will serve to show 
the armorial distinctions alluded to in the above, 
the mottoes being equally significant, " Frappez 
fart,'' and ''Agincourt:* Hbnbt W. S. Tatlok. 

Unifods (2»* S. xi. 428.) : Pobtical Squib (2»« 
S. vi. 90.) : " Thb Roluad (2»« S. ix. 453.) — 

** LazarisB enim peregrin« origo ab exercitu Anattco 
invecta in nrbem est : ii primam leotos aratos, veatem 
stragulam pretiosam, pls^alas et alia taxtilia, et, qun 
tnm magnifies supellectilis habebantar, momtpodia et 
abacos Romsm advexemnt : tunc psaltris sambucistriae- 
qne et oonvivalia ladionam oblectaroenta addita epulis : 
epnlaB quoqae ipse, et cnr& et samptu mi^ofe apparari 
oodptSB ; tam coqoas, viK$simmm aniiqtM numc^htm et €utf- 
maHone etutu in pretio ease ; et qaod ministeriam ftierat 
ar$ haberi capta," — ^Livii SitL xxzix. 7. 

"The Cadmean ** is Pentheus. 

" Tavra ical moBM^w avrbv, Sri, fu 3c<nMuctv ioKmv 

n^bc ^TFduf Si ravpor cvpwy, ol xaBti^ ijf^^ ^V***'* 
T^« wept fip6xo¥S ^|SaAA« y6vau9K, koX x^fAotc woS&v, 
%9lkhv cjnmfiwv, USpStra (rtHfutrtx irri4*»v &vo, 
XctXc<riv di&idc hi6vTtK' vkwiov S' ^yw wp»v, 
'Hmfxpt OAiromVt IXcv<nroy. 

BaeektB, 1. 606. 

I put these imperfect replies into one, as the 
Queries arise out of the same book. When the 
first appeared, I tried to detect the political allu- 
sion, and have done the same with the second, 
without success. No doubt in 1758 the events 
were notorious, but they are such as slip out of 
history, and are only preserved in pamphlets. I 
hope some one will be able to tell us who was the 
admiral who sailed oat with such a cargo. It is a 
pity that such good verses should not be under-i 

The* editorial intimaUon of a new ediUon of 
The Rottiad (2^ S, iz. 453.) induced me to begin 

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a series of Queries (2*^' S. z. 45.), to which no 
answer has been given. My scheme was to take 
each number of the Criticisms separately ; to put 
down and have ready all the points whidi I could 
explain ; to send the rest to the editor ; and for 
him to insert those which he could not answer. 
In that way a few of us may elucidate much 
which without some such effort must soon be 
totally obscured. I shall be happy to go on upon 
my own plan, or assist in any otner, if supported. 


Garrick Qub. 

besides the strange specimens of humanitpr de* 
scribed by the veracious Sir John Maundeyille, I 
know of no animal with only one foot except the 
snail, the flat under surface of whose body is tech- 
nically termed by naturalists a *' foot.*' 

There is still found, in the neighbourhood of 
Dorking, a very large snail, which local tradition 
asserts to have been first brought over to this 
country by the Romans, as a dainty for one of 
their noble matrons in delicate health. 

The Cossus, so much esteemed by our ancient 
epicures, was sup(>osed to have been ^* the hexapod 
of a beetle," but is now pretty clearly proved to 
have been the larva of the goat-moth. It mif^ht 
well rank in the same category as the stinkmg 
venison in your ^^ Parallel; " for nothing can be 
more unpleasant than its rank odour ; yet I can 
hardly think any slip of the pen would have 
changed hexapod into unipod. 

Whilst on this subject, let me remark that our 
vernacular use of the word Orttb, for food, may 
have originated in this use of the Cossus. Con- 
versing lately with a friend, just returned from 
Australia, he informed me that, having for some 
days lost his way in the woods there, he was en- 
tirely dependent for his subsistence on a large 
grub, still eaten in that country. The analogy 
at once struck me ; and I heartily congratulated 
him on the fact, that, though reduced to such 
straits, he had never been without *• grub** 




xi. 291.) — 

** Their heads may sodden in the sun." 

In whose possession is the MS. of Marino Fa^ 
Uerof A reference to it would show whether 
Byron was really responsible for thb bit of bad 
grammar. We know that sodden is the past par- 
ticiple of the verb " to seethe " (siedeuj gesotten^ 
Germ.), and that " to sodden " is no more Eng- 
lish than ^Ho boiled*' would be. Sodden is very 
often used as a verb by the vulgar. A cook will 
say that a slack oven soddens the bread. The 
old word ** seethe ** having become obsolete, its 
participle has been retained, and made to do duty 
as a verb. Even if there were tuch an expression 

as ** to sodden,** it would be very unfitly used in 
describing a head exposed to the sun. The head 
would dry up and snrivel ; it would not become 
boiled — moistened — by the heat. By means of 
" N. k Q." an obscure passage in Byron*s Childe 
Harold was cleared up — 

** Their waters watted them when they were free." 

Perhaps the quotation from Marino Faliero may, 
in like manner, be found capable of correction. 

Watch Papbbs (2*« S. xi. 451.)— The verses 
on a watch after which your correspondent U. O. 
N. inquires, beginning with the words — 
^ Conld bat oar tempers move like this machine," &c. 

were written by Mr. (commonly called Dr.) By- 
rom, the inventor of a system of short-hand, and 
are printed in his Works. W. 

A watch-maker named Adams, who practised 
his cra(^ some forty years ago in Church Street, 
Hackney, was fond of putting scraps of poetry in 
the outer case of watches sent to nim for repair, 
as mentioned by your correspondent U. O. N. 
One of hb effusions was near^ to the following 
effect ; but, as I quote from memory, I may not 
be quite correct : — 

'* To-morrow I ye^ to-morrow ! yoa'll repent 
A trsin of years in vice and folly spent. 
To-morrow comes — no penitential sorrow 
Appears therein, for still it is to-morrow. 
At length to*morrow anch « habit gains 
That youMl forget the time that Heaven ordains ; 
And yon'll believe that day too soon will be 
When more to-morrows yoo're denied to see." 

The lines professed to be his own, and I think 
his name was at the bottom of them; whether they 
were his or not I do not know, but they are not 
amiss and not inappropriate. R. W. 

Names op Places in Nobwat endinq in -by 
(2"* S. xi. 208.) — I should be much obliged by 
the list of names of places in Norway ending in 
-by which Ma. Abbostbao offers. M. (1.) 



Letters written hy John Chtanberlain during the reign of 
Queen Elizabeth. Edited from the originals by Sarah 
Williams. Printed for the Camden Society. 4to. 186J. 

The general character of Chamberlain's gossipping let- 
ters, to use the words of the Editor of this work, is well- 
known to literary inquirer?. His activity in the search 
after news, his easo and occasional felicity in espression, 
and his fondness for retailing the witticisms current 
thronghoQt the town at the time of his writing, are 
pecnliarities which have long attracted attention to his 
writings, and have rendered it a subject of regret that 
they have never been either fully or accurately published. 
Miss ^yilHams's volume is the first attempt at a complete 
edition of them, and contains those written daring the 
reign of Elizabeth, which have nerer been pabfished 

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before. Tbev are brimiaU of corioae information, and 
will take their stand among the most valaable materials 
for English history fbr the close of the reign of oor great 

The Editor has done her work well { the text has been 
carefully collated, the notes are brief but sufficient and 
to the point, and there is a comprehensive and suitable 
index. In her Introduction, also, she has established a 
right to be regarded as a valuable and suecessfiil in- 
quirer into literary history. Our own pages have tes- 
tified to a general anxiety to learn something of tht) 
biography of this " Horace Walpole of his day.** Com- 
munications to '* N. & Q." upon the subject from Messrs. 
Cooper and others have added somewhat to the few 
facts known respecting him, but still his name, although 
standing in Ch«lmera*s Biographical Dictionary, repre- 
sented little more than a mere shadow. No one has been 
able to tell us his parentage, or who or what he was. 
Miss Williams has cleared away all doubt Following 
out a due given by a seal attached to one of Chamberlain's 
letters, she has established that he was one of the six 
sons of Richard Chamberlain, Alderman of London, and 
Sheriff in 1561. The Alderman, speaking in his will 
proved in 1667, of his son John, then in bis thirteenth year, 
describes him as having been ** tender, sickly and weak," 
and expresses his wish that he should be " brought up 
to learning," either at an English University, or in some 
** place beyond sea." Miss Williams infers, with proba- 
bility, that the weakness thus attributed to the letter 
writer may have continued through life. His father's 
wish was complied with. He was matriculated of Trinity 
College in 1578, but left Cambridge without a degree. 
Miss Williams conjectures that the state of his health, 
thus indicated by his father, may have driven him from 
his Cambridge studies and occasioned him to ** take shelter 
in the quieter walks of life," In which the property he 
inherited would enable him to maintain himself. We 
cannot follqw ont Miss Williams's proof, but she has 
succeeded fn completely establishing the parentage and 
statut of her author, and has clearly converted the shadow 
of Chalmers's Biographical Dictionary into a substantial 
and living reality. 

It grieves na to add that this successful result of 
literary reeearch has been accomplished by a lady whose 
ear cannot be gratified by the congratulations which it 
will call forth. It appears from the Introduction that 
these inquiries were carried on in the midst of ill health, 
and consequently with the partial assistance of friends. 
Before the book could be finished at the press, the pul- 
monary ** indisposition " alluded to in the Prefiice had done 
its fatal work, and at the age of thirty-three had harried 
to the grave a literary labourer, who, as this book testifies, 
gave no ordinary promise of usefulness. All who had 
Uie pleasure of her acqnuaintance bear testimony to her 
bright and cheerful character ; the ready wit which 
sparkled in her conversation ; her patience in research ; 
her kindlv, generous sympathies; her self-denying la- 
bours. Alas I that all these should have been lost to the 
world at such an early age. Bat her book remains ; a 
monument and memorial which will fix her name in 
our literature, and will occasion regret in the manv who 
will consult it, that she did not live to follow it by an 
equally satisfactory edition of the remainder of Chamber- 
liun's extant letters. 

Books Reobivbd: — 

An Alphabetical Dictionary qf Coats of Amu belonmng 
to Families in Grmt Britain and Ireland, forming an JEx- 
tensive Ordinary of British Armorials upon an entirely new 
jflan. By John W. Papworth. Part VIL 

Mr. Fapworth's useful Ordinary of British Armorials 
is proceeding steadily. It has now reached 862 pages, so 

that if the editor's antidpatioQ of being able to complete 
it in about 600 pages be realized, one half of the work is 
now in the hands of his subscribers. • 

Hymns and Poems hv Bev, T, Griga, is one of the latest 
additions to Mr. Sedgwick's useful Series of English 
Hymns. Grigg is not a hymn-writer of the very higneet 
dass ; but the Uttle volume is well worth porchasiog fbr 
the sake of one hymn alone, which is here given in its 
original integrity, and whidi, even when shorn of all its 
poetry, is still one of the greatest favourites in modem 
hj'mn-books. We allude to the well-known hymn be- 

** Jesns, and shall it ever be, 
A mortal man ashamed of Thee? " 

We have also received three hymns by Thomas OUvars. 
From his long poem on the Last Judgment, the popular 
Advent Hymn has been abridged, 

" Lo ! He comes in clouds descending." 

One of those pleasant re-unions of science and good 
feeling — we had nearly written good feeding— which are 
characteristic of the present day, took place at the Star 
and Garter at Richmond on Saturday last, when Mr. Tite, 
the newly-elected President of the Institute of British 
Archileets, gave a splendid dinner to the Members of the 
Institute and a sdect number of the representativee of 
the other scientific and learned bodies of the metropolis; 
among whom were Lord Talbot de Malnhide, the Chief 
Commissioner of Public Works, Professor Whewell, Sir C. 
Eastlake, Sir R. Mnrchison, and a host of minor celebri- 
ties. At this season, a Richmond dinner is a dedded 
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CONTENTS.— «•. 289. 

KOTES:— Edwsrd Baban.21 — The Segisten of theBt»- 
tiODflra' Company, 88— The Iftte Bishop Matthyand Br. 
Pter, 2S— Aeoords of Bepoldiral Ttomiiiig. Na XL. 84— 
The Naming of New Churches, 26— "The Times" of June 

XnrofB Notes : — A Cmrlous Y enion of the Lord's Plrajer — 
The Whittingtons and 'Whitttnghams —Old Law of Set- 
tlement— Traiisla*i<m and Be^Draaslation— Of Boroogh- 
Owners in Days praoedixig Lord GrcT's BeAnm Aet, 26. 

QUEBIES : — Watson's ** Lifie of Porson : " B«u«f , 87 — The 
Kite, lb. —Charles Anthony — Byron's Bra&n — Jacmes 
Oarey, Biabop of Bieter— Sastem Church — GetHn — 
Grotias — James Hyatt —Irish Arms — Sobert John- 
son — King's Arms — Haohiavelli — Fbsaible and Actual — 
The Counts of Fro?eii6e — Charles Biehardson— David 
Swift— The Temples: Begicides — Harim White — Sir 
Charles Wetherell. 87. 

QvxsiBswiTH AirswBBB;— Books — Letters in the Arms 
(a the PrindpaUty of Beoevent (P) — St. Alhaa'a- John 
Uny— Anonymous— Bishop Dove, 90. 

EBPLIES:— A Few Psrtioolars of the Life of Mary St. 
Auhyn the Poetess, hy her Sister, SI — Understanding, /&. 
—Sir Bevill GrenvUe, 82— Travelling in England a Cen- 
tury Ago, lb. — Hammond the Poet, S8— Capitular Proo- 
tora in the Irish Convocation, 34— Bookhindinr in Ancient 
and in Medieval Times — Inkerman — The Collar of Esses 
Riven to Poreignem — Charade — Baraia — Kinc John's 
Vlrst Wife— Dedications to the Deity — B^chcdiea, &C., 
TneiB— SheU^ and "Brotika BibHon*— EamUy of De 
Warren —Descriptive Catal(«ue— Nem6phila and Vale- 
rian—Quotation Wanted— •'Awake, for the day is pas- 
sing" — Spurs in the House of Commons— Bearing Boyal 
Arms — Veitch — Schism, Ac 86. 


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and where he died, or whether he was a batchelor 
or a married man, and whether he left issue, has 
not, so far as I know, been ascertained. 

Recently a curious volume of small pieces 
(8to.), bound up in one yolume, fell into my 
hands at the piece-meal dispersion of the singular 
fibrary collected by tibe TVliitehaugh family, and 
preaerred till recently at the family seat in Aber- 
deenshire. Amongst these was the following :— 

''Les Antiaoitez de la Yiile et Cit^ D'Orange reven et 
oorrii^ * A Orange. Par JSdoyard Babon, lEnprimeur et 
Libraire de Son Altesse, de la Yille et de rvnirenitie, 
jcokxijcxxl" Small Sro. pp. 24. 

The first leaf after the title is the dedication : 
" ^A Messieurs les Consuls D*Oran^e,*' which 
bears date 1 January, 1656, and is signed "£. 
Baban." He mentions tiiat this little discoiirse 
of the antiquities Be la VUle et Cite D' Orange 
haying fallen into hb hands, he had thought it 
would be useful to print it in the mean time, 
until some better pen could accomplish more 

satisfactorily what he was desirouB of effecting. 
He adds, — 

''Pour men particnlier je rons oflre, MBSsnETTBa, men 
service, avec ma presse, pour I'^tendre en ses Discouzs et 
la d^peindre dans ses ploa vives coidenra.*' 

As twenty-five years elapsed between the date 
of the dedication and that of the tract, a doubt na- 
turally arises as to tiie Edw. Raban of 1 656 being the 
same person as the Raban of 1681. If the Aber- 
deen Raban commenced printing in 1620 in Scot- 
land, it is doubtftil if he could have been the same 
individual as the one whose imprint occurs in the 
Orange tract of 1681. As even supposing he com- 
menced printing at the early age of twenty, this 
would make him at* least eighty when the revised 
and corrected edition of the antiquities of Orange 
was published. 

In 1656, tiie date of the dedication, Raban 
would have been, according to the hypothesis as 
to his age, about fifty-six, and he certainly may 
have lived to be an octogenarian. On the other 
hand, he may have married and have had a son of 
the same Christian name, who followed the same 
calling as his parent. 

This last supposition is perhaps the correct one, 
if Mr. Eenn^y, in his Anmta of Aberdeen^ be 
right in what he says : — 

** Mr. Bahan carried on the printiog business until the 
year 1649, when he died, and was succeeded in the office 
of Printer to the Town and Dniversity by James Brown* 
son of William Brown, minister of Inverlochy." 

No authority is eiven for this assertion, and the 
fact of Mr. Brown^s appointment proves nothing 
more than that Raban had ceased to be printer to 
the Town and University in 1649. This having 
been the year after the execution of Charles L, it is 
quite supposable tiiat an event which led to the 
departure of so many loyalists from their native 
land, may have induced tiie eul^ist of the Right 
Rev, "Father in God, Patrick Forbes of Corse," 
Lord Bishop of Aberdeen, to follow their example. 
Moreover, it would have been rather unusual for 
a *^ malignant,'* for such we suspect Raban to 
have been, to have been allowed quietly to retain 
a situation of emolument, when there must have 
been so many holy and patriotic men ready to 
take his place. 

Raban is not a Scotish name, and it is not un- 
likely that he may have been induced to come 
to Scotland from the encouragement given b^ 
James I. to literature. The first work from his 
press, so far as ascertained, was printed in Edin- 
burgh. From the metropolis he proceeded to St. 
Andrew's, where he printed, in 1622, a book on 
Calligraphy, copies of which are of great rarity. 
From thence he went to Aberdeen, where he was 
printer to the Town and to the University. One 
of his earliest productions there was an exceed- 
ingly scarce Latin poem by one of the Wedder- 
burns upon the death of King James, entitied 

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Abredonia Airaia. If, as we oonjecturei he ctme 
originally from the Low Countries, it is bat na^ 
torsi that, upon the downfal of the monarchj, he 
and bis fsmilj diould return to the ** Forum Ori- 
(rinis.** Orange was transferred bj the Tteatj of 
Utrecht to France. J. M. 



(^CantiiiMed/romp. 5.) 

27 November [1587]. — John Wolf. Alowed 

unto him for his copie, as well in Italian as in 

Enfflisbe, The Descrtptiim of ScoHaud^ sett forth 

by Petruccio, and authorised under th*and of Sir 

Ft. Wslsingham vj*. 

rif this work were erer printed in the two leogaagei^ 
it nas noTer come ander our notice : the authotiestion by 
the Qaeen'fl Secretary waa nnnsnal.] 

4 Decembris. — Mr. Denham. Alowed unto him 
&c. a booke intituled AdanCt Bani$kmentt Christe 
his Cribbe^ the Loet Sheepe and the Complaint of 
Old Age vjf 

[By William Hnnnis, who seems to have commenced 
his poetical career in 1550, and regarding whoee earlier 

Srodactioofl see Extr, fnm th» Statkmerr Rtgiaten, toI. 
« pp. 51, 76, 154, and 197. The abore is the flrtt notice 
of tne poems to which the entiy refers, and they came 
oat in 1588 in 24mo. under the foUowii« title: Reerta' 
tkmif amtam in g AdamU BmiuAaiejU, CKrt<< hii Cribbt, 
tht Lott SkeqtB and the OmpUiuU </ Old Agt, Biblio- 
graphers do not mention the impression of Uie work in 
1595, with the sabsequent addition to the titles of pro- 
dnctions not elsewhere mentioned : ** Wherennto is 
newly adjoyned these two notable and pithie Treatises: 
The Creation of the arst Weeke; the Life and Death of 
Joseph.** It was ** printed by P. S. for W. Jamrd, and 
are to be sold at his shoppe at the east end orS. Don- 
sUn*s church, 1595,*' 18mo. Hunnis outliTod Eliiabeth, 
and in 1615 an impresdon of Tarions of his piecee came 
ont containing a poetical prayer for King James; but it 
was probably written earlier, as the author was then 
dead. The reprint of 1615 does not oontain either ** Hie 
Creation of the first Week^'' or <«The Life and Death 
of Joseph,'* which we find in the edition of 1595.] 

John Wolf. Rd. of him for &o. the Oenealogie 
of the Kinget of England from WUHam the Con- 
queror, in a table with pictures yj*. 

[*< With pictures " no doubt meant with engraTinn on 
wood, accompanying the genealogy of the sover^gns. 
It would not much aurpriae us, if these <* pictures ** were 
the same aa those employed by John Taylor, the Water- 
Poet, in the next reisn, to iilnstrato his Tsises on the 
diflRwent kings of England.] 

11 Dec— Jo. Wolf. Rd. of him for printinge a 
booke of Carolles, sett forth by Moses Powell yj'. 

[Bitsoo,in his BibL PML, p. 800, introduces this eotry, 
but without ftmishing any information regarding the 
book or its compiler: perhaps by ** sett forth,** we ought 
to understand that the Carols were the authorship of Moees 
PowelL The sum paid shows that it was a Toinme, and 
not a mere broadside. ThomoM Powell, In 1601, was the 
author of lU Pamonate Poef, with a DncnpUgn of Ae 
Thraeian IsmaruM, which is noticed by Ritsoni but he 

omito the same poet's L99i*$ Lqmme, published in 1598, 
and introduced by commendatoiy stsnzas signed Jaases 

Jo. Wolf. Rd« of him for printinse the OraHam 
of Nepinme to Jnpiier, in the praise of Queene 
Elizabeth, &c. yj'. 

[No such Oretiom Is now known. It is not at all ne» 
oesaary to multiply the clerk's blunders i but Herbert, In 
his edition of ^aiet (ii. 1186), prints Neptune, y*ptarmt, 
as if it so stood in the Beffister. Herbert does not seem 
to hsTo hiflsself either copied or collated the originals.] 

Bobt Robinson. Rd. of him for printinge Pal* 
lingenius in Enslishe Terse, which is aasigo^ unto 
him from Mr. Newbery vj^. 

[This transktion, by Bamabe Googe, of Palingenina* 
ZodiaeuB Viim, was originally published in portions ; the 

first of which, contaimnff the three earliest books, ap- 
peared in 1560, when Tlsdale printed it for Ralph New* 
bery : the whole twelTo books were printed by Denh 

for Newbery in 1565, and here we see it assigned to 
Bobert Robinson in 1587. He published a complete edi* 
tion of the entire work in 1588. Copies of the first par- 
tial impression are very rare ; but as the book became 
popular, the copies were multiplied, and later editions 
are not uncommon.] 

14 Decembris. — Edward White. Entred &o. 
to pi7nte a Ballade intytuled The Late Ficforye 
of the Kynge qf Navarre iiij'. 

[No doubt, merely a broadside; but with the date of 
1589, Edward White published, and J. Wolfo printed, in 
proee, A Trwi Di$eourm of the nunt haj^ Vie(orie$ o6- 
tedmtd bjf the IVench Kittiu fe. It has a map, and was 
dedicated to the young Karl of Essex. No copy of the 
ballad is, we believe, extant Joshua Sylvester^s " Can- 
ticle on the Yictoiy of Yvry,*' was of course of later date : 
Bitson saya of 1590, but at all eventa copies, dated 1591, 
are in existenoe. Perhaps it was then reprinted.] 

23 Dec — Jo. Wonlf. Lyoensed unto lum the 
pryntinge of a smale thinffe called Hke Oame of 
the Hole, otherwiee, f/fyonbe not pleated yon ehalbe 
eaeed. iiij*. 

[In ToL iL p. 89, of Extr, from the Beg. of the 8iaL 
Omp., is a notloe of the registration to Hugh Jackson of 
a ballad, to which the above eatiy may possibly have 

13 Jaouarii [1588]. — ^Edward Aggas. Lyoensed 
unto him &o. Phidamore, hie Fygure of Fanej^^ 


[No notice has been anrwhere taken of this entry oC 
obviously, a collection of love-poems; and if it were ever 
printed, no copy of it has come down to^ our daj. For 
** Phidamore," we ought perhaps to read and understand 
FSdamore, or FStkmofu: At that date "fancy" was 
synonymous with Idoc] 

Secundo die Marcii.— Jo. Charlewood. Rd. of 
him for &o. a Ballade, &c., the begynnynge 
whereof is " Goe from thy wanton, and be v)[>e,*' 


[We can crive no ftirther information rsepeeting this 

oral broadttde in verse, excepting that among Heber's 

MS8. there was a small miscellany in prose and thyme^ 

one pieoe in which commenced — ** Be wiae; come away 

from thy lady so gay "—intended to ibrm a covplet] 

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4 Marcii. — John Wolfe. Item receayed of 
lum for &c« theis ballades folowin^e, tiz. A Glo- 
riauM Besurrection : another intituled Betwene 
Camfinie and Povertie. Another intituled Ooe 
from the Wiwdawe^ &c xij*. 

• [The sam xij* was four pence for each of the three very 
diadmilar prodactions : before ** betwene *' dialogtiet eom- 
pmoHt or some word of the kind was, probablj, omitted. 
There is a aong of the reign of Queen Anne beginnings 

** Go from my window, gOb 
Or something at you I may throw : " 
to which a loTer replies, 

** Throw me^ or blow me a kiss. 
And nothing can then come amisa." 
The rhyme of the last line is sometimes rarxed.] 

Jo. Wolfe. Rd. of him for &c. the Gynn^e 
game, Cheste game, and Foze and geese. . tj*. 

[Whatever ** the Gynnye game " may have been, H Is 
singular to see the game of Chess, or Cheaie (as it was 
sometimes spelt of old) coopled with Fox and Goose, aa 
it is now played.] 

Nono die Marcu.— John Wolfe. Bd. of him 
for &c. a ballad, intitnled 7%« moiie cruell and 
Ivrannoua Mwrther eonuniUtd hy a Mother 'iw 
Ijavoe upon a Child of Seaven Yere9 of Age in 
WeMiminster^ in this Yere iiij^. 

[Old Stow, who often enters into snch local particnlars^ 
says nothing of this crimen and we leam nothing regard- 
ing it from any other sonrce.] 

23 Marcii. — Sampson Clerk. Lprcensed unto 
him &c. theis three Ballades ensumge, tiz. : A 
Ballade intytnled, A moete excellent newe BaUad 
d^folottewise between Ckriete and the Saule of Man. 
Anotner Ballade intytnled. The moetefamtnu Htfe" 
torie ofJwdeth and Olofemee, And the third in- 
tytnled A proper n^ioe Ballade tfyalogeunae betwene 
S^neerytie ana wilfidl Ignaranee . • • xyiij*. 

[The registration of each ballad, tharefora^ cost 6</., 
when the nsnal charge to other stationers had been only 
4dL per ballad. Perhaps they were not mere broadsidos : 
otherwise we can see no reason why Sampson Clerk shoald 
hare been compelled to pay more than usoaL We are 
not aware that any one of the three pieces has been 
preaerred, either in the original copy, or as a reprint.] 

27 of Marche, 1588. — John Charlewoode. Ly- 
censed unto him &c. a ballade intytnled An £X' 
eeUent DytOe and neceeearye^ wherein is shewed 
kowe we muste stryve againat aSL manner ofeynnee, 

[The year 1588, as it was then reckoned, had began 
two days before this entry was made. Here again we 
seeCbarlewood charged 6i£ ibr one ballad, and perhapa 
the price at the Hall had been raised.] 

29 die Marcii. —£dw. White. Alowed nnto 
him for his eopie a booke intytnled Perymedee 
fie hladi smith, Uppon condition that he procure 
the same to be lycensed, and aucthorised to the 
printe, before he put the same in hande to bee 
printed (no sum.) 

[This Is an important entry, and the particniar form 
it bean deaerrea obaenration. It appears that the work 

was presented at Stationers' Hall in mannseript, and that 
although it was*' allowed " as White's copy, he was not 
permitted to put it to press until the publication of it 
had been formally authorised. The payment for the entry 
may hare been deferred till then ; but we hear no more 
of it in the same record, although the tract was printed 
with the date of 1688 on the UUe-page. It was one of 
the famous Bobert Greene's productions. When it came 
out in 4to. in 1688, ''Printed by John Wolfe for Edwaid 
White," it bore for titl^ as in the entry, PertsudSet f Ae 
Blaeke'imilh, with a long tail, explanatoiy of ita strictly 
moral purpose, which perhaps had been ooubted at Sta- 
tioners^ Hall, and the final license therefore deUyed. It 
is remarkable that, popular as were all Greene's prodnc* 
tions, Perhudei the JBlaektmith was never reprinted : it is 
only known by two or three copies of the edition of 1688.] 

24 die Aprilis. — ^Richard Jones. Receaved of 
him for his lycence to printe a ballad intituled, 
A sweete newe Songe laiehe made by a SouUMer^ 

and named The FaSe of FoBy vj^ 

[The Clerk first inserted 4dL as the price of the license^ 
but struck it out, and substituted 6dL, which shows that 
the charge had been raised, possibly, on account of the 
multiplication of ballads. In the Roxbuighe Collection 
there is a very good ballad called The Soldi£r*$ Hepentaneep 
or the Fall of FoUy, without date or printer's name, doubt- 
less a reprint of the production indicated in the preceding 
entry, which only mentions the second title, Th9 Fau 
ofF6Uy, The whole relates to the sufferings of soldiers, 
and especially to the hardships they experienced during 
sieges like those of Layden or Antwerp : — 
"I watched on the sisffed walls, 

In thunder, Ughtning, rain and snow, 
And oft, beine shot with powdred balls, 
^Yhose ccetly markes are yet to show," &c. 
This, and much more, we now know, was written in 
the spring of 1688, when so many gallant fellows were 
serving and enduring every kind of hardship in the war 
of the Metheriands. The ballad continues, near the close, 
" When I came home I made a proof 

What friends would do, if need should be: 
My nearest kinsfolk lookt aloof. 
As though they had forgotten me. 
"And as the owl by chattering charms 
Is wondred at by other birds, 
So they came wondring at my harms. 
And yield me no relief but words." 

Thus we are able from the Stationers' Registers to as- 
certain the true date and application of a ballad that has 
reached us in a comparatively modern reprint without 
any note of the year. J 

J. Fatnb Collibb. 

The subjoined letter from Dr. Parr, the original 
of which IS in the possession of my friend Mr. 
Howard, is so honourable alike to the eminent 
man who wrote it and to the object of his solici- 
tude, that the Editor of " N. & Q." will probably 
think it may be fitly preserved in the pages of 
that periodical I have reason to believe that 
Dr. rarr*s testimony to the classical attainments 
of his distinguished pupil will be deemed hj th(* 
family and friends of the late Bishop a gratifying,' 
tribute to his memory. 

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The leanied Doetor*f orUiognipk]r> ham been 
retained in the transoript. Wm. Sidxst Gibsoit. 


« Corby G«8tK S5tli Mav, 1661. 
^ D«ar Sir, — As jroa ars, I balievv, an oecanonal oor- 
riqwndent c^ Noies and Qimie$, 1 forward to you a copy 
o# an nnpablished letter of that eminent Greek Scliolar, 
Dr. Samacl Parr, which may, perhaps, be acceptable to 
that pablication. It is addrsflsed to Mn. Howard's uncle, 
the late Bfr. Canning of Foxcote. 

«* Yery iUthftally yoms, 

** Phiup H. Howabd." 
«<To WiUiam l^ydney Gibson, Esq., F.&A." 

'*July 19th, 1817. Hatton. 

** Dear M' Canning.— I am sure that yon will excuse me 
for requesting your speedy and earnest interposition in 
fitvonr of D' Maltby, Candidate for the preachership of 
Gray's Inn, which will soon be Tacant — Among the 
Electors are Andrew Hnddlestone and William Sheldon, 
'Esq"., and if you hare anv influence with either or both 
of tnem, pray lay before them the followingstatement. 

* Dr MiJtby is one of the most Judicious Preachers and 
best informed Theologians in England. He is firmly 
attached to cItII and reUgioas llber^, and on the Catholic 
qnestion he thinks, speucs, and acts as yon would wish 
him to do. His education was partly under me at Nor- 
wich, and partly under D' Joseph Warton at Winchester. 
He read all Pindar with me before he went to Warton, 
and under Warton his talent for Latin composition was 
much improred. Soon after his arrival at Cambridge he 
Blood for tiie nniyersity Scholarship against two most 
powerful competitors, and their Merits were so nearly 
equal that the Judges refosed to dedde. This rare and 
most honourable event is recorded in our nnirersity 
Books, and yon will remember that no station open to 
young men is so creditable as the scholarship of which I 
am speaking. 

<*On takmg his Bachelor's Degree he was one of our 
Wranglers. He gained prizes for Greek Odes. He was 
Senior Medallist again and again. — He has been called 
upon by Vice Chancellours to preach before the Univer- 
sity on public occasions. He is now one of the Select 
Preachers, and four Sermons which he delivered this 
year have added laxgely to his Reputation. The sound- 
ness of hisjudgment and the diligence of his researches 
were manifested in a Theological work which he pub- 
lished nine or ten years ago. 

« Lately he has sent forth sn Edition of Morelli's Greek 
Theaaaarus, which has been well received by Scholars 
throughout Enropei It is his intention to send to the 
Press a large volume of Discourses. I have read several 
of them, and I pronounce them very excellent indeed. 
He in the Pulpit is grave, unaffected, and very impres* 
sive: out of the Pulpit he is an independent upright 
Man. whose society will make him agreeable and in- 
tereeting to the Gentlemen of Gray's Inn. I assure you, 
dear Sir, that his merits as a Parish Priest are consider- 
able, and that throuffh the whole extent of his intellec- 
tual and moral qualities he is likely to adorn the most 
exalted Station in the Church. Thers was a time when 
Preacherships at the Inns of Court, were conforred upon 
the best Sdiolars and the ablest Divines, and if this 
spirit be not utterly gone, I>;Maltby cannot fkil of suc- 

** I must not, however, dissemble from you that while 
his literary Character is illustrious and his conduct in 
private life quite irreproachable, he is not looked upon 
with a favourable Eye by some of our Prelates. His 
ffood manners, his studious habits, his pastoral vigilance, 
his sound judgment, his extensive leaning, are in the 
estimation of some Men insnfflciettt to azpiata the guilt 

of his attachment to pnblie Men whom yon and I honeuv 

and to public principles which we hold sincerely and avow 
fearlessly.* If it be in your power, pray recommend him 
to the two Gentlemen whom I have mentioned. Thsj 
will not dispute my verselty, and if the choice foils npen 
Maltby, Experience will lead tham to give me cndit 
for a right Judgement, and will .leave them the appco* 
bation of their own minds for supporting a great Scnolar 
and an honest Man. Pray give my nest compts and 
best wishes to M"* Canning, lam, dear Sir, your sincere 
Freind and y foithfol humble Set*." 

" Francis Canning, 
^ Foxcote l£)use, 

** Shipaton on 8toar.''t 

Dwduee Old Church, — Aboat fonr miles fi*om 
that object of especial resort in Ireland, the Giants* 
Causewaj, the Castle of Dnnlnce otace sentinelled 
Mae QaiUane*8 territory on its northern coast. 
It is now a ruin, but, from its sitnation, awfoUj 
magnificent; projected on a rock, raised about 
100 feet above the sea, and separated from the 
mainland by a chasm of thirty feet width. Near " 
it, on that mainland, is the old church, rendered 
itself almost unapproachable bj pedestrians from 
the harvests of dock-leaves with which it is matted, 
and which greatlj impede the investigations of an 
Old Mortality. I note the tombs, nowever, as 
they were discovered by me, premising that there 
is one very old stone with nndefinable armoriaJa 
lying flat on the southern part of the graveyard, and 
near it another less intelligibly commemorative. 
Those which I was able to decipher were to John 
Thompson of Baljyclogh, ob. 1795 ; to Alexander 
McLaughlin of Ballyness, ob. 1785; to John 
McLaughlin of Ballyness, ob. 1791 ; to Alexander 
Mc Donald of Bally tubbot, ob. 1881 ; to William 
Moore of Priestland, ob. 1807, and his descend- 
ants. To Patersons of Priestland, from 1774; to 
McQuiggs of IsFand-Curragh, from 1790. Yartoua 
stones to the fidsars of mllytubbert to Samuel 
McCandlies of Cioney, ob. 1826; Mary Todd, ob. 
1807 ; to the Rev. John Cameron, " fortv-five 
years dissenting minister of the parish of Dunluoe,'* 
ob. 1799; Mary Adair of Port-Ballintra, ob. 1824; 
a very larse slab, double size, to William Moore 
of Ballyyelton, ob. 1788, and his descendants. On 
this armorials are sculptured. The above memo- 
rials occur through the mTeyard, while within 
the church ruins is a buriiU-place for the Boyds of 
Ballv-Ma . . . ; a mural slab to Florence, wife of 
Archibald MacPhillip of Dunluce, merchant, and 

* Mr. Canning of Fozoote was much attached to the 
cause of Parliamentary Reform, bat did not live to see 
the events of 1882. He and his learned correspondent 
were always great friends. 

t Dr. Maltby was selected by the Benchers of the 
Hon. Society, and appomted to the post to whi<^ he 

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draghter of Captain Robert EUmUtoa of Clade, 
o1>. 1674; to Ker. DaTid Dnnkiii, Rector of 
Agherton and Ardolinifl, ob. 1886, aged dghty- 

Tfae wreek of the old castle ia eloquent to me, 
bot it speaks in Irish to an Irishman, and might 
not be understood by the generalitjr of Tonr rea- 
ders. I shall not, therefore, saj more nere than 
that in this sea-girt retreat the widow of the mur- 
dered Dt^e of Buckingham (who married to her 
second husband, Rand^ Earl of Antrim,) once 
resided ; and, I ihink I may legitimately add, that 
the Manuscript Collections, whieh I made in aid of 
the history of this county, and all its localities, 
extend oyer three volumes of dose writing, but I 
never received sufficient encourasement to in- 
domniiy me in their publication. Johh D*Aiax>N. 
4SL Sommor HilL Dablin. 


The names of churches, like the names of per- 
sons, must often oocasion some difficoltyof choice 
to those who have to provide them. What mo- 
tivea may have directed that choice in ancient 
times, in this or other countries, I do not recollect 
to have anywhere read ; though not improbably 
some of the writers on ecclesiastical and rituid 
matters have given their ideas upon the point, 
either irom actual evidence, or from hypothetioal 
notions of their own. 

Among our own new churches, the motives 
leading to their names are sometimes transparent, 
as in uie twelve churches in Bethnal Green named 
aller the twelve Apostles ; or when in a large 
parish four new churches have been named after 
the Evangelists: and perhaps, on the whole, it 
would be difficult to invent a better or more be- 
ooming i^^stem. 

But a questionable, if not irreverent, idea has 
been sometimes allowed to prevail in recent de- 
dications ; I mean that of naming the church — it 
Bkiffht either jocosely or sadly be said — not after 
a departed saint, but after a h'vin^ sinner. This 
is d<nie, not avowedly, but by taking the name of 
that apostle or sunt which corresponds with the 
name of the founder or other person intended to 
be conunemorated. 

Am<H)g modem churches there are compara- 
tively few St. Stephens. One wss erected some 
ffteen years ago m the rarish of Hammersmith, 
to which the late Bishop Blomfield was a material 
ooQtribator; but he was much assisted in his work 
by the unpsid works of the builder, Mr. Stephen 
Krd, and the bishop did no^ hesitate to consecrate 
the diurch by the name of St Stephen's. 

Churches have been named after our sovereigns, 
as Charles church at Plvmouth, named in memory 
of King Charles the Martyr (temp. Charles IL) ; 
St Qeorge'a in the East (1729) ; and St. Geoige's 

BloomsbuTv (1781). And I find this praeUce 
commenced as early as the reign of James I., 
which is shown by the following passage in the 
oontinuation of Stowe*8 Chronicle : — 

'^Thunday, the 2nd of Janusiy, 1622, a nsw^bollt 
chnrch near Creed-churcb, within AMgato, was 

orated by the Lord Archbishop of Canterbmr [Abbotl 
and the Bishop of Loodon [Moantaigne], by the name cit 
Saint Jamet^ ehMreht and there the Quire of Safait Panleit 
with sondiy iDStmments of masique^ with great eolem- 
nity, siisg TV Dnm and diverse anthems; and, aita the 
sermon, was celebrated the sacrament of tfae liord% 
Sapper, and a child waa baptized, and was named Jamea, 
At ^is consecration there were present the Lord Mayor 
and Aldermen in scarlet" — Stowe's Ckromek, edit lesi, 
p. 1035. 

This is the church which is still known as that 
of Saint James, Duke's Place. At Plymouth th^ 
naming after ]^ng Charles is better remembered, 
and the word Saint is usually omitted ; a practice 
of which I do not know any oUier instance; 
though in the sixteenth and seventeenth cen- 
turies, when the metropolitan cathedral was the 
ordinary lounge of the idlers and newsmongers of 
the day, it was usual to talk of Paul's and Panra 
Walk (t. e. the western limb of the church), in« 
stead of St. Paul's. 

Perhaps, if this «<Note*' is admitted into th» 
columns of '* N. & Q.," other correspondents may 
be induced to communicate their own recollections 
upon this subject. J. G. N. 

"THE TIMES" OF JUNE 21, 1861, 

May I beg a small space in your valuable publi- 
cation, for the purpose of laying before your 
readers a few statistics relative to the advertise- 
ments which appeared in The Timest No. 23,965, 
Friday, June 21, 1861, that bein^ the longest day 
of the year, and that paper having the greatest 
number of advertisements ever issued at one im- 
pression in the daily press. I have classed them 
as follows: — 
Births, 26 ; Marriages, 22 ; Deaths^ 28 ; Total 80 
Lost Property, &c. ----- 22 

Exhibitions and AmnsemenU - - - 94 
Shipping ------- 162 

Apartments and Houses to be let, && - - 1488 
Edneatianal ...... 100 

Carriages, Horses, &c 94 

Coal 40 

Dentical and Sargeiy - - ... 67 
Chancery -------45 

Books, Pamphlets, &a • - • - - 468 
Sale or Hire of Fumitnre • • . - 80 
Sales by Auction - - - - - - 116 

Want Places In HoosehVd ... - 141 
Situations wanted in Easinesses - - * S? 
MisoelUneoQS ^^ 

In 104 advertisement columns there is no less 

than a number of 4229 

and it may not be out of place to qaote that 
joiinial*s own words respeotixig the same : — 

uigitized by VjOOQIC 




« Oar imprarioii of this day will be found to coniiti of 
14 pagMi the extraordiiuuT pnasun of adTfirtiMraeaU 
hanag compelled os to add an extra sheet to our already 
ample dimensiooa. Fifty yean ago the arerage number 
of adTertiaementfitn a tingle impression of this journal 
was about 150 ; to-day no less than 4000 adTertisements 
irill make known the wanta of the community through- 
out the length and breadth of the empire. We hare Ions 
discontinued the head of «« Supplement " to the second 
sheet of Th* Tom; and have only adopted the Utie of 
««Sztra Sheet" in this instance to attraot the notice of 
our readers to this, the largest production that has ever 
inned from the daily Press. We trust it will not be too 
long for < A Constant Reader' to get through within the 
oompass of the longest day of the year." 

The record of sach an eyent may surely find its 
place in ** N. & Q>f** althouffh I may here mention 
that another ** Extra Sheet^* was issued with The 
THmes on Wednesday, the 26th of Jane. T. C. N. 

ilfiiflr iUiUi. 
A Chmioim Vbebiok of the Lobd's Pbatbk. — 
On the fly-leaf of a book in my possession, Figure 
hibUe^ doet^emi fratrU An^tmii de Rampelogis, 
Paris* Jehan Petit, 1518, there is an old version of 
the Pater, Are, and Credo, evidently in the hand« 
writing of the period of the book's publication : — 

*■ O ffather in heven, halowed be thy name amOge m6 
in erth as yt is amOge angels in hev& o fiather let tby 
kydome come & reygne amOge us me in erth aa y* reynys 
amOgey* angels in heven. o flbther thy wyll be ffalfiyllyt, 
y« to saye, make us to fulffyll thv wyll here in erth as 
thy angels dothe in hevS. o ffatner give us our dayly 
sustynSce alwaye & helpe us as we gyve Be helpe the y* 
have node off us. o ffkther forgy ve our sjes done to y 
as we do forgyve the yt trespas agayost us. o ffather let 
ns not be ovoome w' eyyll teptatyon, but o ffather dely- 
ver us frO all evylles. Ame. 

« hayle mary full off grace our lorde ys w< ye blessyd 
be y« amoge all wome & blessed ye fruyte off thy wObe 

•• I beleve in god y« ffather all myghty maker off heve 
& erth. I beleve in Jesu Cbryste y> onely sone our lorde 
coequal w« y* ffather in sJil thyg pten^g to the deytie. 
I beleve y' (he) was cOaavyd by y* oly goost & borne off 
y« T'gy mary. I beleve y* he sufibrd detli und pOs pylatt 
& y< he was cmcyfyd deth & buryed." (Gefera cfetiml ) 

John Wiluaub. 

Amo's Court. 

Tbs Whittinotons and Whittinohamb. — 
Mr. Lvsons, in his recent bio<;raphy of Sir Richard 
Whittmgton, entitled The Model Merehoad of the 
Middle Agesy at p. 75., remarks — 

*' We find a Robert Whittington, a citizen of London, 
raised to the shrievslty in 1416, and again in 1419, the 
year of Sir Richard's last mayoralty ; and a Henry Whit- 
tington, who, after serving Ai apprenticeship to one 
Kioiard Aylmer, in 1484, was admitted as a member of 
the Mercers' Company. We do not, however, find men- 
tion made of any Robert or Henry in the family pedigrees 
at all corresponding with these individuals.** 

Mr. Bruce has ^veli some account of the family 
Cff Whittingham in his Vemey Papen (printed for 
Ibe Camdea Society^ 1858), and has there skowo. 

at p. 15., that ''the skeriff in 1419 was really a 
Bobert WhittingAom, and not a Robert Whiuing- 
ton^ as he stands in almost all the lists of sheriflb.** 
Several generations of the Whittinghams, includ- 
ing the sheriff of 1419, were members of the 
Company of Dri^Mrs. J. G. N. 

Ou> Law of Sbtti.bmkkt. — ^Now tliat the law 
of settlement is under discussion, the following 
extract from the parish accounts of Frampton, in 
Lincolnshire, may be of interest, as showing the 
almost absolute prohibition there was, until com- 
paratively recent times, against persons removing 
into other parishes : — 

« March %7% 1C54. Wee the inhabiUnU of y« Towne 
of Frampton, being mett at y* Church for y cboyoe of 
Officers for this present yeare (notice having been pub- 
licly given of it y* last Lord's day) doe nominate and 
elect John Ayre, and Tho* Appleby, and Rich^ Coney, 
and Tho" Nicholls, and W» Eldred. and Humphry Hall, 
Headborroughs for this yeare, to this intent and purpose 
that they may looke to it that noe stranger come to in- 
habit in y* said Towne without y* general consent of 
them six, and If any shall bring any in without their 
Consent, wee are agreed that y party soe failing (where 
there is not a competent estate and sufficient bond given 
by y* stranser y* comes in to save y* Towne from 
charge), shaU forfeit Twenty pound. (Signed) Samuel 
Coney. Tbo" Graves. Tho* Nixonn. Tho* Houett. 
Steven Paise (Pacey)." 

Lucios AF Teqvah. 

Tbahslation and Rb-thanslation. — Tn M. 
TAbb^ Ferland*s Notet tur les RegUtret de Quebec 
it is thus written : — 

**Un village fbrm€ sur la terre d*un nomm^ Shepherd 
fhtnommtf Shepherd-viUe, nom que les.Frsnfais tradui- 
sirent par Berger-viUs, Les Anglais Tout traduit depuia 
par Beggta-'viUt, et les Csnadiens en on fiut h leur tour 
VUlajfe dn Qu^teatrs.*' 


Of Bohough Owkevs in Days frbgbdiho 
Lord Gssr^a Rsfobm Act. — We all know that 
in the election of a member for a poehet borough^ 
he was to resign his seat the moment he declined 
to vote in support of his patron*s politics ; as for 
instance, the borough-owner supports the minis* 
ter, the member must vote for every measure 
brought in by the minister, and support him in op- 
position to every motion made by '^ the gentlemen 
opposite," whether the member approved or disap- 
proved of the conduct or proceedings of the 

In 1798, Mr. Abbott (Lord (Colchester) was 
member for the Duke of tieeds* borough of Hel- 
ston. The duke had quarrelled with Mr. Pltt» 
and opposed his assessed tax bill, and of course 
expected Mr. Abbott^ vote with the opposition 
to it, which he would not, and offered to resign 
rather than violate what he considered his duty 
to his country, then engaged in a war with our 
deadly enemy, France. A correspondence en- 
tiled between the duke and Mr. Abbott, which is 

uigitized by 





«?en at leneth in the first vol. of the latter't 
i)iary^ and I refer to it as a rare instance of a 
boroughmonger for^ving his nominee, and per* 
mittiog bim to retain his seat. This correspon- 
dence will repay perusal, and charm the reader as 
it does me. The duke concludes all his letters to 
Mr. Abbott — "I am your faithful and affec" 
inmate friend, Leeds.*' Fna* Mcwbubh. 

Larchfield, DarlingtOD. 


May I be pennitted to propose a Query with 
TegArd to this word ? I hare read with attention 
most of the critiquet on Mr. Watson's book. Some 
of his critics animadvert strongly on hb sayinj^ 
that Person '* used the Ionic form IcZrof unjusti- 
fiably" at the commencement of his trimeter 
iambics for the Craven Scholarship : — 

*'0 |«ivt, TBVTOV harvt cloop^ t«4ov* 
and they refer him to the (Edijnu Colonetts of 
Sophocles, where iwos is used more than once in 
the trimeter iambic. To most readers, of course, 
with their references to Sophocles, they will ap- 
pear to be absolutely right, and Mr. Watson to 
oe absolutely wronff. For myself, though not the 
profoundest of scholars, I was inclined to consider 
whether, as Mr. Watson seems to write with care, 
and to show no propensity to make hasty asser- 
tions, he might not be in the right and his critics in 
the wrong. I therefore examined the point with 
some attention ; more, I think, than most of the 
critics seem to have given it. If Beatson's In- 
dices, and the Index to the Glasgow Euriindes, 
be correct, (uyosf in the trimeter iambics of ^s- 
chylus, does not occur at all, and only once* in 
those of Euripides, viz. EkeL 247 : — 

where Yictorius's edition has |^r«, and the line, to 
my ear, would be much improved by an alteration, 
though somewhat bold, to — 

If this, or something similar, were done, the 
Ionic form would be eUminated from Euripides, 
as it is from .S^schylus, altogether. 

Turning, in the next places to Sophocles, we 
find that ^rm onlv in one play, the (Edipus Colo- 
neus (which I read once, and hope never to read 
again, so thoroughly disgust inj^ to me is the story 
of both the plays of which Qiklipus is the subject), 
and in one fragment, Ach. Canviv, viii., — 

" KrtunBt, <v *ApY«i Metros &r oudSrrat,'* 

which appears to be sound ; but faith is not al- 

* I porposely omit Iph, Tamr, 805, **Xcir\ ov iuimim 
Tift Scov rhp wf40woXay,** when DO scholar will scrapie to 

ways to be placed in fragments. If, then, we 
could ect rid of ^wos here, the use of it with 
Sophocles would be confined to one only of his 
plays, in which it occurs five times, verses 33, 49, 
1014, 1096, 1119. Now I would wish to ask the 
knowing in such matters whether there seems to 
be any assignable reason why Sophocles should 
have allowed himself the use of this word so 
freely in one particular play, and have avoided 
it, apparently, in all his oUier plays that remain 
to us. If anv such reason can be found, it will 
strengthen Mr. Watson's notion that the Ionic 
form is not generally admissible into Greek iam- 
bics, certainly not into those for school or college 
exercises, which, I should suppose, is all that Mr. 
Watson means by calling it unjustifiable in Per- 
son's. Kidd, it may be observed, had objected to 
it before Mr. Watson. For my own part I should 
deem it quite inadmissible in such compositions, 
since, if, the ancient tragic writers used it only 
exceptionally (the Attic form occurs scores of 
times), the modems, I conceive, ought to avoid it 
altogether. I should at any rate consider even 
the exceptional use of it confined to Sophocles, 
like his use of ijfuy and &fuf as trochees. We have 
thirty three entire tn^gedies left to us from anti- 
quity, and in onljr one of them, a tragedy of So- 
phocles, is the Ionic form of the word freely used. 
While I am on the subject of these verses, let 
me add that it has been observed by Mr. Watson's 
critics that he has noticed the neglect of the pause 
in the ninth verse, and not in eighth and the last^ 
where it is also neglected. The eighth and ninth 
lines are, — 

** BrnwABy cfiinitfw Mmwav* X^iyfnx r* 

I suppose Mr. Watson had some especial reason 
for noticing the one rather than the other. He 
says, "The ninth line shows that Porson had 
either not then discovered what he afterwards 
called the patue^ or disregarded it, considering, I 
should presume, that the ninth line was much 
more easy for Person to manage, so as to observe 
the pause, than the eighth, in which it is a matter 
of much greater difficulty to produce a satisfac- 
tory rendering of the' English. For Imwriif, which 
is not necessary, Person, it may be thought, might 
have substituted some other word from nis Greek 
vocabulary, which even at that time of his life 
must have been very copious. However on all 
these points I leave Mr. Watson to vindicate him- 
self, which he is doubtless able to do. The neglect 
of the pause in the last verse, I should add, Mr. 
Watson may have omitted to notice, because he 
considers it defensible. Nbmo. 

Has any curious Cuttlsean made a note of 
'* The Kite, an heroi-comical Poem," published 

uiyiLizeu uy x.>j v_^ ^-^pc l-V- 




in 1722*, a decade or so after *«The Bape of 
the Lock*'? Its author was Doctor Phaoael 
Bacon, Rector of Baldon*March, Oxon^ who sur- 
vived his poetical honours full threescore years, 
dying in 178S, when near upon ninety. His 
second wife was mj mother's eldest sister; and 
it was amonff my childish treats to hear her read 
her husband's £pos, which the dear old lady ad- 
mired as thoroughly as did Aunt Trotwood the 
Milvian manipulations of Mr. Dick. 

This same Kite — as a jauntily-written dedica- 
tion sets forth — was the handiwork of a Warwick- 
shire patroness of field-sports, by my mythological 
uncle, appellated ^ Dian?' Cupid's bow was its 
head-pieoe; his azrows composed its frame; the 
shrieral wand, whilom borne by her father and 
grandfather, did duty for its backbone ;^ her own 
sohooltime copy-books were out up for its oover- 
ing; Mercury elongated its tail with clippings 
from Acts of Parliament; .Solus contributed a 
favourable wind ; and the complete Bird was con- 
signed to the elements. Juno, however, with her 
constitutional jealousy, despatched Iris to sever 
the string : the Kite ascended into upper space, 
and, like the Coma Berenices, Belinda's Lock, and 
Lord Hastings* fMorMaua jnutuks^ became a con- 

With all its sins of careless couplets and unto- 
ward rhymes, this "heavy lightness " has passages 
not unworthy the Bard of Twickenham himself. 
Let me instance its allusion to the lady's floral 
skill in wool-work, then, as now, a fashionable 
lemale accomplishment : — 

** If Dian at the frame displayed her power, 
And ekarged At tmdb wtik thtJwtmrtJUmer :** 

and, favente **N. & Q^** the alphabet, fancifully 
scattered over her papyrian prodigy : — 

•"Here A, by himaeir A, snmamed The Grea^* 
With awfnl front o'erlooke the little sUte ; 
And, like iSneas, with majestic pace 
I* Italian Order leads his lettered raoa : 
While. n«zt him» little a with yontlUfU piide» 
Tripe like Ittlos by his lather's side : 
Here^ bending c*a disclose half orbe of Ufht, 
Like the new honoars of the Queen of Might : 
There i, like the Fifth Edwyd, stands displayed, . 
The Crown for ever hanging o'er his head } 
There a, distinguished liy his cnrions ionnd» 
And ^ by children in the comer found : 
The % with arched neck, and tail reclined ; 
And the twin «i*8, in sacred friendship joined." 

I have also before me the original MS. of com- 
mendatory verses on ''The Kite," addreoed " for 
the Eev. Mr. Bacon» at Reading,** where my uncle, 
then a young man, was probably a curate or in- 
eumbent. Bad in their spelling, and worse in 
their style, they are not worth transcription. 
E. L. S. 

[* Again, in 4to. 1729.— En.] 

CHAaun AaTHOHT, of Jesus College, Cam- 
bridge, B.A. 1623-4, MA. 1627, is author of a 
sermon published in 1646. In 1660 application 
was made to the crown that he might have the 
vicarage of Catterick, in Yorkshire. We shall be 
glad to be informed whether he obtained that 
preferment, and when he died ? 

C. H. & Thomtsoii Coofbe. 

Btboii*s Bbaik. — Presuming that the respec- 
tive we^hts of the brains of certain great men, of 
whom Byron I believe to be one, are known, I 
shall be glad to know, if so, the weight of Lord 
Byron's brain, and the weights of those of two or 
tmree other leading men of this country whose 
names, I fancy, have been associated with the 
name of Bvron in illustration of the extraor- 
dinarv wdght the human brain will attain, parti- 
cularly in persons of transcendent powers of mind 
with a healthy organisation* Also, what is the 
average weight of uie human brain f 

KoHx Oioraz. 

Jambs Cabt, Bishop of £xvrsB.r— Can you 
refer me to any information respecting James 
Cary, who, while Bishop elect of JLichfield, was, 
in 1419, elected Bishop of Exeter ; but being at 
the time in Italy, died before his return to Eng- 
land, and is stated to have been buried in a 
church at Florence P 

I would particularlv inquire whether it is 
known in wnat church he was buried? And 
whether there is in existence any monument, or 
other memorial of his death f Mbmob. 

Eabtbbn Choboh.— I wish to inquire, through 
the medium of " N. & Q.** : — 

1. What recent works, besides those of Messrs. 
Stanley, Neale, and Wm. Pahner, treat of the Or- 
thodox Church of the East, and her relations to the 
churches of the west f 

2. What notices are to be found in the Ckri^- 
tian Bemembrwueer^ and other quarterlies (with 
references) ? £. H. Ejtowuhl 


Gbtuv. — Can any of vour correspondents tdl 
me of the use of the word getim in tbe South of 
England, or pdnt to an earlier occurrence of it 
than 1411 P At this date I find it in an inven- 
tory of an old religious house in the North ; but 
there '^ setling.** Servants hom the north of 
Cumberland, and old people all over the border, 

£'ve this name to a small iron pan with a bow- 
jidle and three feet. Jameson suggests, from 
its being made of cast-iron, from A.-S. geat, to 
cast, to throw. Why should it have been so 
named, when pans of other metal were produced 
in a similar manner P Can any of your corre- 
spondents suggest another derivation r M« (1.) 


« GrotiiiB, not content with God's word in its plainness^ 
interpreted it with sophistiy, and thought to prop it hj 

uiyiLizeu uy x._jv>»'v^ 


l»*&ZII.Jm;r l&tl.] 



leamiDg. When lie explained away the prophecies he 
was a Sodman, aod when he commented on the Reve- 
lations a Papist ' Both charges wen broo^ht tgainst 
bim,and he defended himself falsely, though mgenionsly, 
against the first, but only denied the second." — Letter to 
Uu Biahop of Exeter^ by T. Seward, London, 1779, 8to. 

- I shall be glad to know where I can find an 
scoonnt of this controyeny, espet ially as to the 
charge of popery, for which, I think, the founda- 
tion must have been small. £. T. C. 

James Htatt, of Feterhouse, B.A. 1610-11, 
ALA. 1614, IS aothor of T?ie Preacher's President, 
4t09 1626. His name occurs in the Commiasions 
for Ecclesiastical Causes within the prorince of 
York, issued Ist July, 1625, and 15th August, 
1627; he was therefore, no doubt, beneficed in 
one of the northern counties. We shall be thank- 
ful for any other particulars of his life. 

C. H. & Thomfsoh Coovmb, 


Irish Asms. — What are the arms of the Fer- 
reter family, wluch^ according to Smith's HiMtory 
of Kerry, emigrated from England in the reign of 
Queen JBJizabeth, and afkerwurds occupied (^tle 
Ferreter, on the western coast of Kerry P 

.What are the armes of the Corkorans, Coriurans, 
or Corcorans P Is the name a corruption of Coch- 
rane P £. AL 

RoBBBT JoHNSQiT, of Trinity College, Cambridge, 
B.A. 1622-3, M.A. 1626, was of York, and one of 
the Assembly of Diyines. He published Lux et 
Lex, or (he Light of ^e Law of JaeoVs House, a 
fast sermon before the House of Commons, 3 1st 
March, on Isaiah ii. 6. ; London, 4to, 1647. In 
165^ he was created D.D. at Cambridge. At the 
Bestoration he petitioned Charles II. for presenta- 
tion to the rectory of Wdton, Yorkshire. The 
petition was referred to Drs. Sheldon, Earle, and 
Morley ; and on their report in his favour, was 
granted. We shall be obliged if any of your cor- 
respondents can furnish the date of his decease. 
C. H. & Thompson Coopbb. 

Kiifo*s Asms. — Can some of your corre- 
spondents kindly inform me which of our king*s 
arms are represented on some church paying tires 
in mj possession P They are quarterly English 
and French, the English being on the second and 
third, but with the lions reversed, t. e. going to 
the sinister. The French occupy the first and 
fourth, and have six fleurs de lis. Dallaway's 
Heraldry gives a plate of Edward IV. with some 
of the fions reversed ; and Burke's Peerage and 
Baronetage gives Edward HI. with nine fieurs de 
Cs, but 3l the other books to which I have the 
means of reference, show the French arms with 
three fleurs de lis only. Is it known where these 
squares, formerly so generally used in churches, 
were manufactured ? j 

I think that a very useful and interesting work 
might be made (I am not aware of there being 
any such) showing all the coats of our kings from 
the earliest times, accompanied by an account of 
the causes or motives for their assumption. F. S. 

Macbiavblli. — Can any of your readers in- 
form me what is the best e<&tion of Machiavelli's 
Worhs, published in the English language P 

Also, what is the best edition of a translation of 

Frederidc the Great's Works f I have an edition 

in thirteen volumes. The first four published in 

Dublin, 1791 ; the others in London, 1789. 


Possible and Actual. — In these days, when we 
are all strong at a priori knowledge, we often find 
persons obliged to escape discussion on the nature 
of things by saying, in answer to the charge of 
asserting an impossibility : ^ I did not say it was 
possihle ; I only said it was <n«." 

To whom is the manufacture of this retort to be 
attributed P I can carry it back to 1687, in which 
year Dancourt's Chevalier a la Mode was first 
acted: — 

**M,Mig€auL Cela ne se pent pas. 

** Litette, Je ne sais pas si e«la se pent, mats je s^is 
bien qua cela est" . 

That the actual must be possible is a favourite 
maxim of the metaphysicians, who sometimes rise 
to the surface and hold on by this rock while 
they take a moment's breath. Aristotle tells us 
downright : ** T4 8i ynd^wa tjywtpbp thi Sward' ov 
yhp iyivvro c/ ^y iZ^aera^* Leibnitz is of opinion 
that, *^ Ce qui est ne saurait manquer d'etre pos- 
sible." Kant distinctly deduces the possibility of 
syntheti(»d judgments cL priori from their exist- 
ence. Victor Cousin ventures on a more concrete 
application : ^ Si done il est certain que Roscelin 
a et^ le maitre d'Abelard, il faut bien que la chose 
ait iii possible.'* And Mr. Bucket, who was as 
nearly a metaphysician as it is given to a police- 
man to be, when the poor dragoon asked wnether 
it'could be possible that he was suspected of mur* 
dering the lawyer, answered : ** George, it is cer- 
tainly possible, because it's the case.* But what 
I want to know is, who was the first to content 
himself with the fact, and to leave the possibility 
of it an open question P A. Db Mobqait. 

Thb Coitnts of Fbovencb. — Can any corre- 
spondent kindl]|r direct me to some genealogical, 
or other book, in which I can find a genealogy of 
the Counts of Provence, before they merged mto 
the family of the Counts of Barcelona, by the 
marriage of the Countess Dulcia with Raymond, 
Count of Barcelona ? Andersotfs Boycd Geneah^ 
gies is unfortunately silent on this subject 


Chablbs Kichabdsoh, preacher at St. Cathsr 
rine's by the Tower, is author of eight or mor^ 

uiyiLizeu uy x._jv_^^^' 





sermons, and tiieological works published from 
1612 to 1647. Some were printed more than 
once. He was of Christ's College, Cambridgje; 
M.A. 1595. Other particulars respecting him 
are desired by C. H. k Thompsoh C^pbb. 


Dayib Swnrr, of Leioestershire, admitted of 
Corpus Christ! College, Cambridf^e, 1629, B.A. 
1626-7, was author of an exposition on the 5th 
chapter of Lamentations, 1658 and 1657 ; and of 
Sermons, 1641, 1643, and 1648. Anj other in- 
formation respectbg him will be acceptable to 

C. H. k Thompsoh Coopse. 


Thi Tbmplbs : Rbgicidbs. — In the register of 
burials in the parish of St. Peter Mancroft, in 
the Citj of Norwich, under the date of Jan. 14, 
1659 (60), occurs the following entry : — 

-A Gent stranger, called by the name of John 
Browne, otherwise afterwards his baiyeall acooonted by 
the name of Sir Peter Temple." 

Was this the same person as Sir Peter Temple, 
one of the judges of Charles L ? 

In what manner was Sir Peter allied to his 
brother r^cide Col. James Temple f And what 
affinity did both bear to the Stow family ? 

Q. A. C. 

Habim Wnrra, of Catharine Hall, Cambridge, 

B.D. 1610, is author of four, or more, serroong. 

Two were published in 1610, and another in 1618. 

Further information concerninff him b requested. 

C. H. k Thompsoh Coopbb. 


Sn Cbablbs Wsthbbbll. — I am anxious to 
see a pedigree of the family of the late Sir Charles 
Wetherell, and to know what arms were borne 
bj him.* £dwabx> Pbaoock. 

Bottesford Manor, Brigg. 

Boobs. — I shall feel greatl^fr obliged for infor- 
mation respecting the first privilege for printing 
books granted in this country, and the course 
adopted with reference to the patent granted by 
Geo. IV., and dated Jan. 21, 1880, for printing 
the Bible and Prayer Book for a term of thirty 
years, which expired Jan. 21, 1860. Ihquibbb. 

[Some corioas particalars respecting the first privilege 
of printing Bibles, Common Prayer Books, and other 
woncs, will be foand in the report of the case of Baskett 

. V. the University of Cambridge, decided in the Court of 
King*s Bench in MichaelnMs term, 82 George IL Kov. 
14, 1768. Vide Bnrrow*s ItMpoHh ii. C61, and Gent Mag. 

r* The arms, as borne by Sir Charles Wetherel], are 
** Ar. two lions pass, guard, sa. on a chief dancett^ of 
the second, three covered cops ar." — Borke's Armory,'} 

voL Ixxxix. pt L ppw 99. 219. The Qoeen's Printsfs' 
Patent, giving them ooncorrently with the two Cniver- 
sities the privUeoe of printing Bibles and Prayer-Books^ 
was renewed in Jannary, 186^] 

Lbttbbs ih thb Abms of thb Pbibcipautt of 
Bbmbvbitt (P). — The following extract is taken 
from — 

" Parthenopcsia ; or the History of the Most Noble and 
Renowned Kingdom of Naples, &c. The first Mirt bv 
that famous Antiquary Sdpio Maszella, made English 
by Mr. Samson Lenntird, Herald of Armes; the second 
part compiled by James Howell, Esq'".*' Published by 
Humphrey Moseley, London, 1654. 

** The arms of this Country is per fesse ar. & sa., unto 
a Sea-Compass, four Wings extended & fixed in Salter, 
with the North Star in chief sinister or. The which said 
Arms declare unto us that in this Province was found 
(as hath been said) the Mariner's Compass, with the 
virtue of the Adamant Stone & the Sea Card, by Flavio 
di Oiaw, whereupon the two fields, the one signifleth the 
day, the other the night; the four Wines which are 
jovned to the Sea-Compass declare the four Cardinal 
Winds, and chiefest in the World, that is to say, the 
East, the West, the North, and the South : the Shining 
Star signifieth the North Star, wherewith through that 
excellent invention Pilots & Mariners might sail both 
day and night with any wind.**— Page 86. 

Tiiis description, however, omits to mention 
sundry letters which are delineated on the face of 
the compass, in the woodcut of the arms at 4he 
head of the chapter. Commencing at the south- 
west, they run thus — "s o l f m t o i^i** — and 
correspond to the eight sectbns^on the face of the 

Can these letters be the original characters for 
the eight points into which, according to Abraham 
Ortelf, Gioia divided his compass f And if so, 
what do they signify ? 

Two other Queries arise out of the foresoing : — 

1. What herald of arms was Samson Lennard» 
and is he considered an authority of note ? 

2. Did Scipio Mazzella acquire the title of 
"famous** antiquary by the production of any 
works other than Parthenopcsia P Sigma.-Tau. 

Cape Town, Cape of Good Hop^ May 6, 1861. 

[Can the letters on the face of the compass be a modi- 
fication of the more usual phrase, ** SoU Deo Gloria " 9 
ThuB SoLTi] Ptatri] M[axirao] Tf ribuenda] GCIoria].* 
Sou in Koman inscriptions, stood occasionally for eoHf 
•* Sol. Inv. Mrr." (Soli invicto Mithr») ; P. frequently 

for Pater. Noble {HisL of the Cbllege of Arms, p. 250.) 

speaks of ** Sampson Lennaird, Blue-Mantle, as undoubt- 
edly a man of ability, and that his larce collections in 
the British Museum prove alike his skill and industry. 
He was buried in the church of St. Bennet, Paul's Wharf, 

Aug. 17, 1688. Scipio Maszella is author also of the 

following works:— 1. Le Vite de i Re di Napoli, con loro 
Efflrie. 4to. Nap. 1696. 2. Sito, Antichitk e Bagni della 
Citta di PozsttOK)^ e del suo distretto; con le figure de 

51i Edificii, e con gli Enitafi che vi sono; a^giuntori un 
.pparato delle Statue ntrovate in Cnma, k Qennaro dell' 
Anno 1606 ; con tavola. 8vo. Napoli, 1606.] 

St. Axbah*8. — Can you furnish me with anj 
particulars respecting the members returned for 

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the borough of St Alb«D*f in the parliaments of 
1656 and 1659 ? MnifOB. 

[In 1656 AlbM Ooxe of Beaumont's, near St. Alban's, 
was retnined M.P. for that boroogfa. Daring the time 
of the Commonwealth, he took an active part in anpport 
of the Protector, bj whom he was lAtrosted with the 
eommand of a troop of horse raised in this coantj. 
He was retnmed again in 1659, with Richard Jennings, 
Esq. of Sandridge. Mr. Coze died in Febmary, 1664-5. 
FMfe Clntterbnek's Ekrii, I 58, li&] 

JoBH Unnr. — Where shall I find anj bio- 
srapbical noUce of J. Urrf, the editor of Cliaacer ? 
1 am anxioQB for information as to his familj. 


Bottesfonl Manor, Brigg. 

[little is known of the early days of John Uny, who 
was a native of Scotland, and stndent of Christ Chnrch, 
Oxford. Ue refused the oaths, and died a Nonjuror on 
March 18, 1714-15. An interesting account of his last 
Alness is given in Reltquke Hecamiana, i. 331-825. Con- 
sult also Nichols's LiUnuy AnecdoieB, i 196—199.] 

Akomtmous. — Who is the author of a book 
entitled : 

« The History of the Chnich of Great Britmn from the 
Birth of our Saviour until the Year of our Lord 1667, 

with an exact Succession of the Bishops and 

all the English Cardinals and several Orders of English, 
&c. London: 1675. 4to. 

There is a motto from Bodin. The copy I have 
aeen once belonged to Dr. Thomas Brett. 

Thx Yigab of Chatham. 

[By George Geeves. Vide the Rev. H. F. Lyte*s Sale 
Caulogoe^ lot 1646 ; and Straker's last Catalogue arroMged 
according to Subjects, no date, art. 6110.] 

Bishop Dotx. — Any genealoeical information 
regarding the family of ^omas Dove, Bishop of 
Feterborouffhf to whom a patent of arms was 
granted by Wm. Dethick, Garter, and Wm. Cam- 
den, Clarencieuz, dated 5th May, 1601 (43 Eliz.), 
or hint where snch ixdbrmation may be obtained, 
wonld mnoh oblige Equxs. 

[Some interesting notices of Bishop Dove's family will 

be fimad in the Oemi, Mag. for 1796, pp. 185, 589, and 

786. The Bishop's Will is in the Prsrogative Office, 

Scroope, 95. Consult also Bridges's iVbrMamptoNsAcre, 

. it 50$ 560} and Willis's Cathedrah, iii 50C.] 



(2»« S; xL 470.) 

Mary St. Aubyn, the authoress of 27ie De- 
/ormed, and other poems, was the daughter of 
Mr. St. Aubyn, eldest son of Sir John St. Aubyn 
of Cornwall. She was, at the time she composed 
most of the poems, residing at a country-nouse 
near Bath, with her father, mother, itnd two sis- 
ters, who are all now liTing. She, in her earliest 

years, was remarkably talented and inteHectual, 
and began to compose poems at an age ihat 
greatly astonished her mother and sisters, who, 
being all lovers of poetry, encomraged her to cul- 
tivate a genius the proofs of which gave them so 
much pleasure. As nothinja^, howcTer, in this 
imperfect state is without its alloy, the same 
peculiarity of mind which enabled her to com- 
prehend and embody in verse the most sublime 
beauties of nature, and the deepest feelings of the 
human heart, made her the victim of a sensibility 
too great for a life full of trials, and a cruel dis- 
appomtment of the heart, at an age when reason 
has little control over the affections. Mental 
pain had no doubt a great share in undermining 
heidth naturally delicate, and she very slowly 
sank into a decline, which, after she had travelled 
with her mother to Torquay, and other parts of 
the West of England, in search of health for 
three weary years, terminated her short and un- 
happy life at Devonport, where she now lies 
buned. Her great ambition was to get her poems 
published; but this she was unable to achieve 
during her life-time, with the exception of a few 
small pieces printed for private circulation. Her 
dying wish was however expressed to her mother, 
who from that moment nuule it her first thought 
and unceasing effort to gratify it, and succeeded, 
after much difficulty, anxiety, and opposition, in 
attaining the object of the poor sufferer's life-long 
aspirations. It is some little compensation to her 
for the trouble she then went tnrough, and the 
unabated grief she has suffered ever since the loss 
of her beloved child, to find her talents at last in 
some measure appreciated by a world to which 
they have been tor so many years unknown. It 
may be interesting to some to know that the mo- 
ther of our poetess is the niece of the famous 
naturalist Gilbert White of Selbome, whose pub« 
lished volumes have been so much admired. 
Monk*s Giove. 


(2"* S. xi. 470.) 
The different meanings of the woixls, ^^curis^ 
substantia^ and understanding, although all from 
roots signifying under '\' standings show how arbi- 
trarily we unlearned as well as the metaphysician 
have used these terms. The word '* unaerstand- 
ing," as used hj Locke, u repudiated by Kant, 
because it combmes two distinct meanings — ver- 
nunft (\k raison), and verstand (rentendment). 
Popularly, the former word is considered apposite 
to man alone ; the Litter {verstand) being a facultpr 
of brutes in common with man. At present it la 
usual to give a new name to an old thing ; foT' 
merly the practice was to give an old name to a 
new thing or idea. Hence the various meaniniP* 
of the.compound under + standing in Greek, Lai' 


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[8^ & ZIL JUZ.T 18. *«1. 

English, frc. In Hebrew the word we translate 
wnderikmding is from P3 (fteen), meanhag to be 
geparatedf to be distinct^ clear. In Latin it is tn- 
iellectus, from inier and lego^ ''I gather among*'; 
and in Greek it is ait^wis^ from oiv and hifu, " I 
send together** : these roots supplj little information 
as to the genesis of the notion ^ understanding ** con- 
sidered as distinct from reason ; and are uncertain 
guides to its philosophic meaning, which must be 
gathered from each metaphjsidan who chooses to 
apply the term in a soecial manner to suit his own 
theory. If we consiaer that we have a receptire 
faculty, whereby external objects (phanomend) 
are perceiTed subjectiTely (mentally), we may 
croperly call this faculfy tmderstandifig^ ; that 
laoulty, however, which comj^ares such subjective 
perceptions, and draws any inference Uierefrom, 
we may properly term reason. 

The word verMkmd^ in German, compounded of 
ver and itand^ means to eland wUh or between 
(Boileau, 226.) The present use of the word 
verstand is not so old as Ulphilas, who adopts 
other roots to convey the sense of understanding ; 
but the exact period when the words verstehen^ or 
vanderstasnd^ came to be applied to the mental 
power of reception, is probably indeterminate ; 
It may be assumed indeed that, as popular terms, 
their use is very remote. As metaphysical terms, 
however, they must date from the end of the 
seventeenth century, or commencement of Grerman 
and English philosophy, which adopted a fumliar 
word in preference to mventing a new one. 

As all objects are received in the mind under 
the forms of space and time^ and under the cate- 
gories of quantity ^ qtudity^ rekOion, and mode\ they 
may be strictly said to " stand under** such forms 
and categories. The terms objective and subjective, 
in like manner, signify — the former *'what lies 
out of** the mind; the latter *«what lies tn** the 
mind. But the scientific use of a word is not de- 
termined hj its etymologv ; which is, neverthe- 
less, useful m preserving the distbct meanings of 
synonymous terms. T. J. Bucjlton. 


(2»* S. xi. 165.) 

Some ;jrear8 since, during a short visit to Gla- 
morganshire, I ascended, in company with a 
Welshman of humble rank, but learned in the 
history and antiquities of his race and country, 
one of the highest of the range of hills whidi 
overlooks from the westward what is called the 
Vale of Glamorgan, the Bristol Channel, &c. 
My companion pointed out to me in the plain 

^* ThSs qtiadripartita diviiioii, first demonstnted by 
Bishop Wilkins. and sabseqnently adopted by Kant, is a 
piaotical abridgment of Aristotle's ten categories. 

beneath, and the neighbouring mount-ain-valley, 
various^ indications of the route and progress, 
respectively, of the Boman and AjDglo*Norman 
invasions, supplied in the former case by the 
semi-Latin names of certain localities, and in the 
latter by the yet visible ruins of liie invaders' 
castles. Among these last my attention was at- 
tracted to that of the Oreenfims (as he designated 
them), who, he told me, had quitted Glamorgan- 
shire some centuries since, and settled "over 
there,** indicating with his finger the distant coast 
of North Devon. Their ancestor, according to 
my informant, had been one of the twdve knights 
associated with Fitz-Hammond (or Haman), the 
founder of Cardiff Castle, in the conquest of the 
rich and beautiful tract of country before us. I 
was not unacquainted with the north-west coast 
of Devonshire and Cornwall, and from the addi- 
tional information which further inquiry elicited 
from my companion. I could not for an instant 
doubt that the heroic cavalier whose name is 
prefixed to this communication, and whose cha- 
racter and exploits I had admired from mv child- 
hood, was the lineal descendant of the Norman 
CO- conqueror of Glamorganshire. 
^ This being admitted, I think there can be 
little question as to the title of hu descendants to 
the name of Oranmtte, how much soever that 
name may have been tortured in the lapse of ages 
into Greenfield (an Archbishop of York, I think, 
in the fourteenth century, belonging to the fiunily 
was so designated), Granvil (see Clarendon, paS' 
Sim), or Grenfel. 

But is there anv connexion between the Gren- 
villes of Buckinffhamshire, as sudi, and the Cor* 
nish family ? I have read a considerable portion 
of the published Memoirs and Correspondence qf 
Mrs. Delat^y and I do not recollect any recog- 
nition of relationship between the £unilies. May 
not the Grenvilles have resumed their rightM 
name early in the last century by way of dutino- 
tion from the WootUm family, then just emerging 
from obscurity and commencing their rapid ascent 
to the height of political power and fame which 
th^ subsequently attained P 

But this subject, I think, has occupied quite as 
much of your space as it deserves, and must 
have severely tasked the patience of your readers. 
I therefore conclude by subscribing myself 


(2«* S, xi. 467.) 
The following copy of Diary of expenses of a 
"journey ** from Betchworth Castle, near Dork- 
ing, to Oxford and back, is from the original in 
my possession, in the handwriting of ray celebrated 
kinsman, Abraham Tucker, of Betdiworth Castle, 
author of The Light of NertUK$ Pursued. It b 

uigiLizeu uy -N^JvJvJVt IV^ 

2~> & ZH. JutiT U. ■81.] 



upon a similar scale, and of the same character as 
that presented to your readers by Ma. J. P. Phil- 
XJP8, the only difference appearing to be that Mr. 
Tucker divioed the expenses with a Mr. Budgen, 
who accompanied him ; hence the separate columns 
of charges: — 

Expencf of Journey to Oxford vnih mjf GHt, a Maid, 
QMchmanf and one JSbrwBum, t» company with Mr^ 
Mrs., and Miu Bwdgen^ a Maid, CbachmoMy and two 
Horsemen, We Met out the 29t& of June, and returned 

Holly Bush, Stanes, 

June 29. Djimer 

Widtar - 


Maidenhead Bridge, 
Jmie 30. Sapper and Breakftst 

Waiter - 



White Hart, Benson, 




Small Expenses - 

£ «. 

1 18 


1 17 

1 07 

s. d. 

s a 


5 09 i 8 14 6 

8 12 

Black Bear, Woodstock, 
Jnlj 5. Dinner 

Waiter - 



1 07 

liAIitchfidd's&Blenheim 11 
TwoNtttoackers - 


Jnly 7. Whet 



Horses & Ostler - 
Gobham Arms, Baekingbaniy 
Jnl J 8. Dinner & Bnskfsst 

Horses & Ostler - 

Whet - • 

1 19 i 19 6 
1 09 6 





2 08 6 

Oxford, at Mr. Wickham's, a Meroer, between Greente 
and All Souls, where we bad four Chamben and a Din- 
ing-room, besides a bed f<nr the Maids, and one for two 
Men, wbich were reckoned together as one room. 

£ i. d. 
1. Cook's BiH, Wine, &c. 2 12 6 
4. Ditto - - 6 08 8 

7. Dftto - - 8 11 10 

a Ditto - - 1 10 

11. Ditto - - 4 03 10 

£ «. 
dgiuM, " 

Maids - - ' 10 6 

Shoes cleaning & Porter 8 

Brewer's Bill 
Lod^in^ 6 Rooips, 2 

6 06 

£ s. d, 

24 15 8 ^ 12 7 7^ 

^ - 8 12 4 

- 5 

- 1 19 64 


18 04 6 

1 10 8 


2 4 



2 6 
2 8 


8 00 6 i 4 00 $ 

Small Expenses - 

Bed Lion, Henley, 
Jnly 12. Dinner 



Maidenhead Bridge, 
Jnly 18. Supper & Breakfast 

Waiter - 



White Hart, Wuidsor, 


Waiter - 

Boat to Stanes 

Palace & Chappel - 

Cathedral - 


July 14. Sapper & Breakfast 


Small Expenses 

ToUl - 

The sum, therefore, whieh appears to haye been 
diflbursed by Mr. Tucker akme (in whose calcu- 
lation, I should add, I hare made a correction of 
a penny) exceeds M. for the expenses of fourteen 
days for thirteen persons; but this obvioyisly does 
not include Uie entire cost, but such charges only 
as were matter of account between himself and 
Mr. Budgen. 

This interesting document was presented to me 
by Sir H. B. P. St. John Mildmay, Bart., whose 

Seat'grandmother Dorothy, Lady St. John, was 
e daughter and eventual sole heiress of Abra- 
ham Tucker of Betchworth, and one of the " mrls 
referred to above. ^' •■■• 

(9«* S. xi. 348. 480.) 
Everything connected with Hammond, the p 
seems to lend itself to mystification. Quei* 

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[1^ a XIL July IB. '61. 

ire raised as to the name of his mother, as to the 
name of his father, as to the name of hisjprand- 
- father, and even as to his own name, ior the 
present I oonfine myself to his mother. Your 
correspondent, Db. Doban, in controverting the 
sopposition that she was a sister of Sir Robert 
l»Vajpole*s, goes so far as to limit Sir Robert to 
one sister. This appears to be a singular inad- 
vertence. Sir Robert's mother has left, in her 
own handwriting, a Ibt of the children that she 
bore to her husband. It may be satisfactory to 
lay before jour readers a copy of this list as given 
by Coxe, in his Memoirs of JSitr Robert WalpMe : — 
- Age of my ChUdrem, 
** Sastn WAS born Gth Jane, 1672. 
Mary, 8th Jane, 1678. 
Edward, 28rd Jtme, 1674. 
Dnnrell, 6th August, 1676. 
BoBBRT, 26th Augiut, 1676. 
John, 8rd September, 1677. 
fforath, 8tb December, 1678. 
Christopher, 20th Febnutry, 1679-80. 
Eliubeth, 24th March, 1680-1. 
Elisabeth, 16th October, 1682. 
a<Ufridu$, 15th March, 1688-4. 
Anoe, 6th April, 1683. 
Dorothy, 18th September, 1686. 
busAir, 5th December, 1687. 
Mordaant, 18th December, 1688. 
A Boy, ttill-boro, 8th April, 1690. 
Charles, 80th Jane, 1691. 
William, 7th April, 1698. 
A Daughter, sUU-born, 20th January, 1694-5.** 
Of this numerous family, the members that 
survived their father are thus recorded on his 
monument : — 

" Ex decern, quot genuit, filiis, superfuerunt Robertus, 
Horatio, Qalflridus; ex filiabas septem, Maria, Dorothea, 
et Sosanna."— ColIint*B Peerage, voL v. p. 652. 

The youngest of the three surviving daughters, 
Susan, IS stated by Coxe to have been married to 
Anthony Hammond, Esq., South Wotton, Nor- 
folk. In the edition of Collinses Peerage^ published 
by Sir Egerton Brydges in 1812, the Hamondu, 
the descendants of Susan Walpole, are spoken of 
as still resident at Wotton ; and the granoson, the 
Rev. Horace Hamond, a younger son (described 
by Coxe as great-nephew of Sir Robert), was at 
that time Rector of Great Massingham, Norfolk. 
It thus appears beyond a doubt that there was, 
at Wotton, in Norfolk, an Anthony Hamond, who 
had a wife Susan, sister of Sir Robert Walpole. 
But from Collins's Peerage (vol. v. p. 652.), we 
learn further that, besides this Anthony Hamond 
of Wotton, there was also an Anthony Hammond 
of Somereham, in the county of Huntingdon ; and 
that it was this Anthony Hammond, of Somer- 
sham, who was by his wife, Jane Clarges, father 
of the poet. 

It will thus be seen that the marriage register 
ffiven by D., and the passage extracted by him 
from the OentlematCe Magazine, are both of them 
perfectly correct. 

In the reign of Queen Elisabeth there was a 
Dr. Hamond, a learned civilian. To what family 
did he belong ? MaurrBS. 

(2»* S. xi. 349.) 

Da. FaASBS will find his question relative to 
the presence of capitular proctors in the Irish 
Convocation answered on reference to Bishop 
Mant*s UiUory of the Irish Church, vol. ii. p. 161. 
In the year 1661, the Lords Justices bemg the 
Lord Chancellor Eustace and the Earls of Orrery 
and Monteath, and the Privy Council, requested 
the Archbishops of Armagh and Dublin, ** to 
meet and advise of, and return their opinions, 
how all things, requisite in order to the Convoca- 
tion, and other things relating to the Church, may 
be done and prepared ? *' To this the Archbishops 
replied — 

** That they had considered the matter, Mad particular^ 
made eearch for a form of writ to be iuued as formerly, 
for convocatuig the Clergy, and could find no other than 
what they annexed, which they conceived a suflSdent 
form to be sent to every one of the Archbishops and 
Bishops, * Prsmonentes Decanara, &c,' preroonishing 
the Dean and Chapter of yoar Church of Armac^b, and 
the Archdeacon and the whole Clergy of your Diocese, 
that tlie same Dean and Archdeacon, in their proper 
persons, and the $ame chapter by one, and the same clergy 
by two fit proctors, having severally fall and sufficient 
power from the eaid Chapter and Clergy, be at the afore- 
said day and place personally present, for consenting to 
snch things as shall then and there happen to be or- 
dained by common Judgment" 

This cUuse was inserted in the writs which 
called the Bishops to Parliament on the 1st of the 
next September, and there can, therefore, be no 
doubt that capitular proctors were elected through* 
out Ireland to serve in the Convocation of 1661. 

The dioceses of Meath, Eilmore, and Ardagh 
have no Chapters, and therefore can return no 
capitular proctors. 

A short sketch of the present constitution of 
the Irish Convocation will be found by those of 
your readers who are interested in the subject in 
The Down, Connor, and Dromore Diocesan Ca- 
lendarfor 1861, p. 72—75, published by George 
Phillips & Sons, Belfast. 

I fear that few of the synodical acts of Irish 
Convocation have been preserved. The records 
of the Convocation of 1634 have, I believe, been 
lately discovered in the Primate*s Library at 
Armagh, written in Latin, The proceedings of 
the Upper House in 1661 are in the Library of 
Trinity Collc^ Dublin. Further search would 
doubtless bring other records to light, and I 
should be much indebted to any of your corre- 
spondents who can give me any further informa- 
tion on this subject Alfabd T. Lbh. 
AhogbiU Rectory, Ballymena. ^^ j 

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BoOKBimilKO IK AnCnHT AND III Mbbi^stai. 
Tuns (2^ S. xi. 169. 194.) — It is rather late to 
T^Ay to Ma. Wav*b Qaerj, bat as Gabriel Peig* 
not*8 brochure seems unknown both to him and 
the learned Dr. Rock, I beg to quote the title of 
M. Feignot*8 contribution to a knowledge of book* 
binding among the ancients : JEsmi sur la ReUure 
de» LivreM et nor VE'tat da la Lihrairie ekez let 
AneicM. Lu a VAcadimie de Dijon, Seance du 
28 Aovt^ 1833. Although forming part of the 
Jkfimoiree of the Academy of Dijon, M. Peignot*s 
JEssai is occasionally to be met with in a separate 
state. J. Magbat. 


Ihkrbman (2"' S. xi. 410.)- 
castle, or military station t 

-Is not kerman a 


The Collab of Essbs oivbh to Fobbigubbs 
(2"' S. xi. 438.) — In his remarks on augmenta* 
lions of coat-armour granted by King James I., 
J. G. N. has alluded to the Collar of Esses being 
(inferred with the honour of knighthood upon 
foreign ambassadors, and asks for evidence of that 
custom. I bardly know wbetber be will consider 
the evidence satisfactory wbicb is presented by 
the portrait engraved by George Vertue of Bal* 
dassar Csstiglione, the author of that once popu- 
lar book 11 Cartegiano. Underneath that portrait 
the arms of Csstiglione are surrounded by a Col- 
lar of Esses, from which is suspended a rose between 
two portcullises. It may be supposed there was 
some authority for the use of this collar, and for 
its particular pattern. Was it directly copied 
from some foreign engraving of Castiglione*s por- 
trait ? Yertue engraved the plate, 1 believe, to 
be a frontispiece to the edition of R Cortegiano^ 
accompanied by an English translation, published 
in London, 1727, 4to. The mission upon which 
Castiglione came to England now appears one of 
little nolitical importance. Guido, Duke d*Ur- 
bino, then a sovereign prince, had been elected a 
Knight of the Garter m 1^04, and we are told 
that he sent this ambasssdor to obtain a confirma- 
tion of the privileges which accrued to him in that 
capacity. The biographer of Baldassar states that 
he not only obtain^ all the duke desired, bnt he 
was himself made a knighf, and besides divers 
horses and dogs that were assigned to him, he was 
presented with a very rich collar of gold — 

" 6 non solo ottenne qnanto it Dues deslderava, ma egll 
fflsdesimo fa fatto Cavaliere, ed oltro vaij cavalli e cani, 
cha gH Airono regalati, ebbe in dono tnia rtoeAunaia eol- 
iamt ^aro ; tanto piacqae ad Arrigo qnesto gran gtntil- 
noma" {Vxta dd Omte BaUtuar CtMsH^one, torkta 
daiP abaU FiataUomSo SenuaL) 

I am disposed to think that Vertne's engraving 
gives an actual representation of .the collar be- 
stowed upon the ambassador by the English so- 
vereign, and that he received it as a symlKil of the 
knij^tliood conferred upon him at the same time* 

It would, however, be interesting to discover other 
proofs of foreign ambassadors m&ving been so de- 
corated. N. H. S. 

Chabadb (2»* S. xi. 449.) — 
" Decapitate man, and von straightway shall find 

That 'twas An [Annj wrote a letter expressed in one 
• Twas a cypher [0] she wrote^ nooffht was read by the 

Whilst Bonght said the damb, and nooght the deaf 

Davus boh Giloipus sum, 

Sabbia (2»* S. xL 410.) — The Maritime IH- 
nerary referred to by Celiarius consists of a list of 
stations in the course of a voysge from one island 
to another, beginning with the Isle of Wight, and 
ending apparently with one of the islands in the 
Bay of Biscay. After the Isle of Wight the first 
station in the list that can be identified with any- 
thing like certainty is Uehant (Uscantisina). The 
intermediate names may be supposed to belong to 
the islands visited on the wa^ oetween these two 
points, but there is great difficulty in' appropri- 
ating them. In the first place the manuscripts 
vary, not only in individual names, but even in 
the number of the stations ; and it would require 
considerable critical skill to settle the text. When 
this is done it still remains to ascertain which are 
the islands included in the Itinerary^ and whst is 
the order in which they are taken. The task of as- 
signing to the several islands their ancient names 
Celiarius acknowledges to be beyond his know- 
ledge, and as such he leaves it to those who have 
better means of obtaining local information. 

Since the days of Celiarius not much has been 
done in this wav. The name that comes next in 
the list after the Isle of Wight is that of jRu/iMa, 
which has on this ground been, with considerable 
appearance of probability, identified with Alder* 
ney. But beyond this everything seems to be left 
to what you have venr properly designated as 
plausible conjecture. In berry's HisL of Ouern* 
eey (1815) there is inserted a paper by the Rev. 
Dr. Ubele of Alderney, tending to throw consi- 
derable doubt upon the supposition that Sanda 
wa9 the name by which Guernsey was known to 
the Roinans. Lumbm. 

The Itinerary referred to by Celiarius is con- 
tained in what is known as the Itinerary of AntO' 
ninus, which is supposed to have been written 
before the end of the third century. Is the name 
Sarnia to be found in any other work of a date 
earlier than 1 500 P Nw bvbm. 

EiHG Johb's Fibst Wirr (2»* S. xi. 490., &c.) 
**The documents cited by Mbx«btbs are, doubt- 
less, as satisfactory to Mb. Wiixiams as they are 
to myself in solving the disputed point of the 
lady's Christian name. There is no doubt, I be- 
lieve, as to Isabella's third marriage with Hub* 

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4e Bnrgh; Imt HmnnmTEUPB is oorreetlj in- 
ibnnedf that Hubert de Burgh never awumed the 
title of Earl of Gloucester. The custody of the 
lands of the Earldom of Gloueeater delivered to 
him (1 Hen. UI.), was probably during the mi« 
nority of Gilbert de Clare» who was in Qie King*s 
wfldrdship nineteen years. After Uie divorce of 
Isabella, the Earldom and Honour of Gloucester 
devolved on Almeric de Montfort, Earl of Ev- 
xeaux, the son of her eldest nster Mabilia. After 
his death, without issue, thev were granted to 
Geofl^v de Mandeville, Isabella's second husband, 
who held them until his death, in the same year 
•8 Sng John's, 1216 ; dying without issue, he was 
succeeded by Gilbert, son of Richard de Glare, 
£ari of Hertford, deceased, in right of his mother 
Amicia, the second sister of Queen Isabdia. 

W. S. 

DxniCATioHS TO THB DuTT (2^ S. iz. 180, 266, 
350 ; X. passim ; zi. 477.) — It would appear that 
dedications of this kind are by no means uncommon, 
rince your .pages already furnish a rather copious 
list The following, however, is not among the 
books mentioned, viz. A Remedy far Wandering 
Tkonghte in ihe Worship of Ood^ by the Rev. 
B. Steele, M.A., 1673 : reprinted in 1834. 

This work is dedicated to the most Holy Trinity. 
I copy the first and the concluding sentence : — 

" These flnt^fhiits I hnmUy lay at thy blessed foot- 
stool, O God, being ambitioiiB of no patron bat thyself: 
Ibr thon alone canst attest the ainoeiify of my aim herein, 
which wiU plesd with thee fbr the imbecUities thereof. 
Hioq alone are the right Aatbor of every valnable line 
and word in the eassdaff tract .... To thy heavenly 
hlesring do I most hnmbly recommend thli mean work 
and worthless workman; with a resoliition to remain, 
while I have any being. Thine own. B. &** 


BiCHSLiBU, BTC, Tkaots (2''' S. xl. 469.) — 

1. •'Charitable Bemonstrmoe de Gaton chrtftien 
(Matthieu de Morymet)/' 

2. **Trais et bone avis de Francois Fidele (Matthien 
de Morymn) sor les Galomnies et Blasphemes da Siear 
des Montagnes (Jean Sirmond).'* 

ft. *Adverti8BementdeNioocleoa(MatthieadeJlfoM«si) 
4 GMottville ear eon Advertissement anz Provinces.''^ 

B. H. C. will find, in the BiograpMe Unmer* 
sells, an account of Matthieu de Moiguee, Sienr 
de Saint- Grermain, who was almoner of Mioie de 
Medicis, the mother of Louis XHL The tracts 
mentioned by B, H. C. were afterwards reprinted, 
with others, under the title of Diverses Pieces pour 
la Defense de la Reine-mire et de Loms illL 
Anvers, 1637, 1643. 2 Vols. foL 'AAic^r. 


I think Fbab Gav Eolus will find that the 
cardinal was not descended finom the royeX line of 
I>reuz. Anderson (iZoyoZ Geneahf^es^ p. 6i6) 
savs, *«Ple8Bis Richelieu, descended from William 
Flessseus, Lord of Dreux and Verronlifepe, who 
lived Ajo. 1201.'* Robert, Count of I>re«z, son 

of Louis VL, died Oet 11, 1184 or 1188 (p. 6S0). 
His son William (die only son of a Count of 
Dreux of that name) died young. If there be 
any connexion between Richelieu and the royal 
House of Dreux, I think it must come throuffh 
the last Omntess of Dreux, Jeanne IL, who ' 
married Louis Viscount of Thonars. I find in 
Anderson's genealogy of La IVemouille, de- 
scended fipom Thouars, the marriage of Louis de 
la Tremouille, Marquis of Noirmoustier, widi 
Lucr^ du Plessis ; but this could not of course 
affiMt the desoeut of Cardinal Riohelien. 


Shxllbt ahd " ExonxA Bduom '* (9^ S. xi. 
367, 429, 471.) — r.'s avowal (p. 472.) that he 
believes it to be " incontestable tnat Eroiika Bib^ 
Hon was printed, as in the imprint, by the church 
of Rome,^' opens to us such an abyss of credulity, 
as makes it useless to carry on with him any lite- 
rary correspondence whatever. But as he puts a 
direct question to me, I am bound to give aa 

(1.) I can offer no other proof that the imprint 
— JSoflie, d rjmpnmerie an VoHcom — is a false 
one, than that which arises from the utter absur- 
dity of supposing it to be true. My authority for 
asserting that Eroiika BihUon was printed in 
Switierland is £bert*s Bibliogrqpkisckes Lexikon^ 
1830, Art '* 14,116.** I have not Brunet or Bar- 
bier at hand to refer to, but £bert*s authority is 
quite the best we can require. 

(2.) r. repeats his assertion that his copy of the 
^ book was got direcfiy from the papal wehives,*' 
but in the very next sentence, the ** Pope*s book- 
seller** appears as the source whence it was ob- 
tained. IM ow the Pope and the Pi^^s bookseller 
are two very different persons. An unprincipled 
tradesman mav have contrived to get hold of some 
copies of an obscure book which had been seized 
by the police, and which they ought to have de- 
stroyed, and in this manner r.*s agent may have 
obtained the Eroiika BibUan at Rome. To sup- 
pose that filthv and prolane books are printed at 
the Vatican, by the pq>al authorities, and with 
their imprint openly appended, is to suppose these 
authorities such utter rools, that their wickedness 
would be lost in theb suicidal silliness. 

Mx. Batss, who is quite able to defend himself 
without any assistance irom me, will know how to 
deal with r., whose original misunderstanding of 
the words ** famous one ** has made all the con- 
furion he is now involved in. Jatdbb. 

Family of Db Wabbbx (2"^ S. xu 468.)— 
There is a Oenealogioal Historic of As Warrem. 
Familjf in two volumes 4to., and I ahould think 
that probably R. T. would find in it the infor- 
mation that he is in search of. Msmob. 

Dncximvn CATALoavn (2^ S. ix. 408. ; x. 
16.)— €!an your oorrespondettt O. M. G. infoma 

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me whether any catalogue has been printed, and 
18 easily accessible, formed on the plan recom- 
mended by Home in his OuiUne»for the Clamfi'^ 

I hxv^ with some tronble, procured Home's 
worh ; but am still greatly at a loss under what 
head to place some <» my books, and shall be glad 
to obtain additional information. C. 

lfrSM6FHIIA AUD VAliBRlAN (2"* S. Xl. 515.)-— 

These two plants belong to different classes. The 
Kem6phila insij^is is of the dax^ Pentandria, 
iirdeT Mono^nia, and I beliere a native of Ame- 
rica. Valeriana officinalis (sylvestris), is cfows 
Triandria, order Monogynia, udigenoos to Great 

I do not know why the former elegant plant is 
80 attractive to the feline tribe; but the latter 
YiSA^ a faint fcstid smell, particularly the root, 
which is much used as a medicine in nervous dis- 
orders. Cats seem perfecUy intoxicated by the 
odour ; and I have seen the outside of a painted 
drawer in an apothecary's shop quite discoloured, 
from the catsnaving rubbed their noses against 
it, tbej having selected that which oontuned the 
Valerian root in preference to all others. 2. X 

Valerian is a herbaceous plant belonging to the 
order Yalerianese, and is common in most parts of 
Europe. It has a strong and peculiar odour, 
which is very attractive to rats and cats. Rat- 
catchers employ it to decoy rats. Nemophila is 
a hardy annual, and is quite devoid of smell. It 
IS of so delicate a formation that the weight of a 
cat will crush it to the ground ; it therefore cer- 
tunly cannot be the plant upon which so great a 
man as Garibaldi *' disported himself at Naples.*' 


QnoTAnoH Wahctd i^ S. x. 494. ; xi. 2S4.)— 
The Imes are in the first act of Crebillon's CaJd" 
Una, He and Voltaire were contemporaries. The 
thought could hardly be original in both. 

E. T. C. 

" AwAxa, roR thb bay is passing*' (2»* S. xi. 
469.) — In reply I send the following quotation 
from Miss Procter^s Legends and Lyrics, I860, 
which is probably the piece intended : — 

** Bise I for the daj i> pasang, 

And yoa lie dreaming on ; 
The others have backled their armour, 

And forth to the fight are gone: 
A place in the fanks awaits yoa. 

Each man has some part to play ; 
The Past and the Future are nothing, 

In the fiice of the stem To-day." 

Francis Pbt. 
Gotham, Bristol. 

SpUKS Ilf THJB HotTSB OT CoMHOHS (2*^' S. xi. 

508.) — The "knight of the shire*' wears spurs, 
iaasmudi as he is, or ought to be, of knightly 
rank. " To win his spora,** in the days of chi« | 

valry, signified <<to obtain knighthood.** The 
citizen or burgess is below the decree of knighl^ 
and is not entitled to assume its privileges. 

Of course a man of or above knightly rank 
may represent a borough or citT in parliament; 
but as the representative of such borough or ci^ 
he sits singly as a burgess or citizen. W. C« 

If Mm. Mbwbubv will refer to Sir James Law- 
rence's NohUity of the British Oetiiry, he will find 
that knights of the shire and mifitary officers, 
being members of parliament, have alone the right 
to enter the House of Commons wearing spurs* 
A borough member, not being either a xnight or 
an officer in the arm^, even if he were an Irish jpeec 
or bearing a title of courteyy, might be required 
to withdraw. 

This custom of course took its rise in the times 
when the counties were really represented in Par- 
liament by knights, the spun bemg a msrk of the 
equestrian dignity. J. Woodwabb* 

Bbakiho Botal Asms (2"^ S. xi. 449.) » I am 
somewhat surm'ised that the editor did not sub- 
join an immediate reply to the strange Query of 
T. E. S., who expresses his ignorance whether 
" all persons of royal descent are entitled to besr 
royal arms** !l Why what a mob of royally-ooated 
escutcheons we should have. Everyone who haa 
anything lika a decent pedjffree can, without 
doubt, traoe his descent from ^ward L L. (I.) 

In answer to T. E. S., I believe that at the 
Heralds* College the same rule applies to royal as 
to ordinary arms. If a person can show a direct 
descent, in the male line, from a royal male an- 
cestor, he would be entitled to bear the arms of 
such ancestor as they were used in that king*8 
time. If his royal ancestor was a female, and she 
either an heiress or a co -heiress, her descendants 
would be entitled to quarter the royal arms of the 
family to which she belonged with their own 
family arms. C. J. 

Vbitch (2»* S. xi. 4^1) may be the sanie name 
as Vetch, Fytch, Fitche, Fitch, which some derive 
from fitch or vetch^ a chickpea (Fr. vesce. It. veccia^ 
L* vicid). I am indinea to think these names 
may be from Fitz ; for Fitchew is a corruption of 
Fitz-Hugh. The Welsh name Yachell may be 
from vach^ little, or vaehelly a comer ; or a con- 
traction of Farchwell, the name of two places in 
CO. Montffomery ; or it may be the same name as 
Mechell, latinised Macutus or Machutus, whence 
the name of the parish of Llanfechell in Anglesea. 
The Cornish surname Levelis we might translate 
*♦ Lion Court or Hall.** R. S. Chabhock. 

Schism (2»* S. xi. 488.)— Your correspondent 
will, I think, find some authority for the common 
pronunciation of (he word " simism ** in the tra- 
ditional bon mot tbst floats in the atmosphere of 
Oxford, and probably of other pUoes of reh'gionff 

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learning. A reverend doctor is reported to have 
aaked one of his pupils whether anj schism was 
to be looked upon as pardonable. ^ Yes,** said 
the pupil to his astonished tutor, ^' a witticism." 

It must be borne in mind that the word schism 
oomes to us through the French, and by this 
means the hard sound attributed to the Greek x 
has been dropped on the road. In the word 
scheme^ which was imported by a less circuitous 
route, the hard sound nas been retained. Yebac. 

Mabsh's *<Michablis** (2»'S.xi. 428.) --When 
the translation ofMichaeUs was first publbhed in 
17d3, Herbert Marsh was simply B.D. and Fellow 
of St. John*s College, Cambridge. If there was 
any foundation for Ui6>chanres made by Dr. Ran- 
dolph, how came it that Marsh was afterwards 
made a bishop and a doctor of divinity ? 


Dbbivatioh ot Yikings (2*^ S. zi. 50, 516.) — 
From two Saxon words, Vig^Kyngr^ i. e. Kings of 
War. The inquirer will find a most curious and 
learned account of the Vikings in a paper entitled 
^ The heath-beer of the Scandinavians.** See 
Ulster Journal of Arckmologyy No. 27, July, 1859. 

J. L. 

CuBiosiTT OT THB Cbbbvs (2*^ S. Xl. 499.) — 
A regard for truth induces me to notice a mis- 
take which has been copied into other newspapers 
besides The Uniou^ and has been sent without 
verification to ^' N. & Q.** On reference to the 
Population Tables for the Census^ of 1851, 1 find 
that the population of Aldrington in that year was 
9, while It was 1 in 1841. To this the following 
note is subjoined : — 

"Owing to the gradnal encroacbmsnt of tbe ssa, ths 
church and village of Aldrington (or Atherington) have 
been destroyed ; coDsequently the parish contained nei- 
ther houses nor population at the Censases of 1801, 1 1, 
21, 81. The house returned in 1841 and 1851 is a toll* 
house, built since the completion of the new road from 
Shorsham to Brighton." i 

To what extent the population may have in- 
creased during the last ten years I know not, as I 
have not seen the BUe-Book, W. H. 

Thb Bbitish Mtobuh dt 1784 (2-« S. xi. 505.) 
— It is much to be regretted that your corre- 
spondent Ithubibi. does not give the name of the 
*' writer of a tour seventy years since** whom 
he quotes. The hoax literary so abounds that 
some little precision as re|;ards authorities is re- 
quisite in everv case. This particular account is 
really extraordinary, and cannot be credited on 
the vague and unsatisfiMStory evidence which your 
correspondent furnishes. J. H. W. C. 

Abam wrra a Bbabd (3"* S. xi. 88.) ^- There 
is a fresco at Siena, by Raaai, of the descent of 
our Saviour into the **Limbus Patrum,** in which 
the painter has represented Adam with a beard. 
Some twentyfoor yean ago I nmde a copy of it, 

which I have by me at present ; but I regret that 
I cannot call to mind the name of the church 
where it is. 

The fresco is not mentioned by Yasari nor by 
Lanzi. If I mistake not, Adam has a beard in 
the beautiful fresco of the same subject, by Beato 
Angelico da Fiesole, in the convent ^f St. Mark, 
Florence. Our own great painter, Stothard, has 
represented Adam with a beard, in one of the 
illustrations to Ge8ner*8 Death of Ahel^ Hepton- 
8tall*s edition, 1797. Thohas H. Cbombk. 


Eabubst Navt Lists (2^ S. xi. 450. 515.)— 
I have a Navy List of two vears earlier date than 
that mentioned by Mb. iLsmxt* It is not a 
separate puUioation, but forms part of the mis- 
cellaneous information in the Court Register for 
1779. It occupies twenty pages and a half, and 
contains the following partictilars : Ships not in 
Commission, classified according to their rates, 
with the numbers of their guns ; Ships in Commis- 
sion, also classified, with the numbers of guns, 
the names of the captains, and in some cases the 
station of service; Lists of Admirals, Captains, 
Masters, and Commanders, and Lieutenants ; and 
a Table of the Rates of Fay. The List of Ad- 
mirals gives no dates ; the other lists do. 

I dare say if the preceding volumes of the 
Court Register^ which aoes not seem to have been 
a new publication in 1779, were inspected, earlier 
Navy Lists would be found. David Gav. 

Seai. of Robebt db Thoetct (2^ S. xi. 510.) 
— ^In answer to the question put to me by Sbnbx, 
Colwyn or Maude Castle is in the parish of Llan- 
saintnraed, a few miles from Builth, on the road 
to Presteign. 

With respect to the Lady Alice Touny, I may 
observe that, as she was a Bohun, she may per- 
haps have been buried in Lanthony Priory, as 
being the burial-place of her father*s family. 

Respecting the inscription on the seal, I am 
persuaded that Sbrbx will look upon the com- 
munication of Mb. J. 6. Nichols as containing 
all the information that he can desire. 

The suggestion of Sbrbx that the swan, Ciguus^ 
may have been adopted as a crest, or (as Mb. 
Nichols terms it) a cognizance^ from its similarity 
in sound to Sigman^ a standard, will perhaps bie 
looked upon at first sight as somewhat far- fetched. 
But many years affo I remember hearing a la- 
bourer spoken of with commendation, as working 
like a stc^. The phrase puzzled me a good deal, 
for a stag is anything but a hard-working animal. 
But on looking into the matter I found that the 
expression came from the French ** travailler 
comme un serf*^ the English form arising from 
the similarity in sound Mtween cerf, a stag^, and 
ser/, a slave. It is worthy of remark that if the 
woard ^ hind" had been used in the translation, 

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the ambignitj of the original would hare been 

In lookxn<^ OTer the points that have been 
touched upon br Sbhxx, I find one or two ques- 
tions upon which it would be very desirable that 
some further light should be thrown ; and for this 
varpose I beg to put them in the form of distinct 
Queries : — 

1. If the house of Hugh de Calvacamp belonged 
to the Sept Thobh, how came one of its principal 
branches to be grafted with the Lime or Linden f 

2. If lions are borne by all the Thorns, how 
came it that lions formed no part of the bearings 
of either branch of the faeuse of Toeny ? 

d. How came it that the arms borne by the de* 
scendants of Ralph de Toeny, the Standard- 
bearer, were so essentially different from those 
borne by the descendants of his brother (if I mis- 
take not), Robert de Todeni, Lord of Belvoir P 


AUTOGBAPHS ON BooKS (2"' S. xL 286.) — 

2. Whitney. — I am enabled, through an anti- 
quarian fellow-labourer, the Rev. U. Green, of 
Knutsford, to complete the motto on H. C. W/s 
copy of Oclandii Anglorum Prcdia. Mr. Green 
possesses a Tolume which once belonged to 
Whitney, entitled Les Devises Heroiques de M, 
Claude Taradin^ printed by Flan tin, and pub- 
lished at Antwerp in 1562. On the title-page is 
the autograph " Gulfridus Whytney : Cestrediir,'* 
and the motto ^Constanter et syncere.** In a 
paper on "WhitneVs Emblems, read before 
Uie Chester Archseological Society in 1859, Mr. 
Green satisfactorily proved that Geoffrey Whitney 
belonged to a family of that name, then, and long 
afterwards, residing at Coole Pilate, near Nant- 
wicb, in this county. 

3. Co^rrave. — ^; This author was professionally, 
if not also by birth, connected with Chester. 
Perhaps H. C. W. will oblige me with a copy 
(addressed to 2, Grove's Terrace, Cheater) of 
Cotgrave^s letter to Secretary Beauliei^ together 
with, if practicable, a gutta percha impression 
from the seal attached to the letter. It may 
serve me in a projected notice of Randal Cotgrave 
in some future li^o. of "^N. & Q.** 

4. Fletcher, — ^This name also smacks peculiarly 
of Chester. Is anything known of the author, his 
birth-place, &c. ? 

There are, probably, many readers of '* N. & 
Q.*' who would like, with me, to hear more of 
H. C. W.*s ** other literary relics of equal or 
greater curiosity** to or than those mentioned in 
his fint communication. T.^Hugbbb. 


MiLTOR (2^ S. xU. 2.) — This note confirms 
what we have elsewhere read of Widow Milton's 
** incompatibility of temper,** — a disease appa- 
rently, 4hen as now, common to step-mothers 

having daughters nearly of their own age. They 
would seem to have died, the one at Loiraon, and 
the other at Nantwich, within two or three days 
of each other, via:., in August, 1727. It is also 
clear from this note that step-mother and daughter 
had long ceased to have any connexion or cor* 
respondenoe with each otber ; for the latter was, 
in 1721, not even aware whether or not her 
father's widow was at th^t time living. The two 
portraits Mrs. Clarke referred to when conversing 
with Yertue were, no doubt, the same which ap* 
peared in the inventory of Mrs. Milton's goods 
taken after her decease in 1727, and which with 
the poet*s ^ coat of arms," are therein estimated 
at 10/. 10s., the entire inventory amounting* to 
but 38/. 8#. 4d. Among the items named in this 
document I notice ** 2 Books of Paradise," valued 
at 10s., — a portion, we cannot doubt, of the 
«* author's copies " of that work reverting to her 
at her husband*s decease fiAy years berore. A 
third copy I have traced to Uie possession of 
Mr. Potts of this city (Chester) — a manuscript 
note on the dtle-page showing that it was pre- 
sented by Mrs. Milton to a Mrs. Norburr, who 
afterwards gave it to her physician. Dr. Thomas 
Tylston of Chester, at the sale of whose son's 
library it was purchased by the grandfather of 
the present proprietor. T. Hughbs. 


AonrcouBT ; WHirmiQTOH (2"* S. xii. 18-) — 
In addition to the two families descended from 
ancestors distinffuished at the battle of Agin- 
courtf noticed by Mb. Hbbbt W. S.'Tatlob, 
there may be reckoned that of IVhittington of 
Hamwell Court, Gloucestershire, descended from 
Sir Guy Whittington (the nephew of the cele- 
brated Sir Richard Whittington, Lord Mayor of 
London), who commanded a company at that 
memorable engagement See Hunter's Agincouri 
Papers^ p. 22. The renowned Richard himself, 
by his loans to the king, having supplied the 
sinews of war. Samubl Ltsons. 

Value of Mobet (2«* S. x. 31 1.) — Your cor- 
respondent PaorBssoB db Mobgan has shown 
Yerj satisfactorily that the value of money at one 
time, as compared with the value of money at 
another time, may be estimated in several ways : 

1st By the quantity of pure metal that it con- 

2nd. By its power of purchasbg any given 

3rd. By its average purchasinff power. 

4th. By the degree of social importance at- 
tached to a given income. 

It is important, however, to observe that the 
first mode of comparison is altogether of a dif- 
ferent character from the others. It is what is 
described b^ Hume as " The change of denomina- 
tion, by which a pound has been reduced to the 

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tbird pni of its ancient weight in silTer.** Until 
tiiifl onange of denomination is ascertained, it is 
impossible to give any accurate expression to tbe 
other modes of comparison. And for this reason 
it woold be verj desirable that tables should be 
published in a conyenient form showing the in- 
trinsic yalne pf the current coin of the realm^ 
from the time when 12. was a pound weight of 
stlrer, to the present dayi. 

The ntilitj of such a publication would be 
much increased hj the addition of tables con- 
taining similar informaUon respecting the coin of 
other oountries, as for instance, of France and 
Spain. Mbmob. 

Tbs Gbbbh Wokah ot Caxuslb Castia (2*^ 
S. xi. 208, 436.)— My drill-sergeant has been with- 
drawn, and another sent ; so that I am not able to 
refer to him for the verification (or otherwise) of 
his story. He never knew I communicated it to 
^ K. & Q.** To write to him would raise sua- 
pidoD, and defeat the object His narrative was 
a verv circumstantial one, and told natundly, as 
if without any apparent attempt to deceive. There 
are one or two curoumstances which still make me 
think that Luouvallsnsis and the sergeant have 
been referring to two different circumstances. 
The former speaks of " silver tissue,** as the ma- 
terial of which the dress was made. The sergeant 
said the material looked like green silk ; and be 
farther tpoke of the larger skeleton as *^The 
Oreeu Woman of Carlisle Castle,** by which 
phrase it was there generally known. He spoke 
positively, also, to the skeleton of a child. An- 
other pomt is, the re-interment in the churchyard 
near the Scottish chief. But what, to my mind, 
seemed to lend the greatest fbrce to his account 
was, the description of the hole in the wall in 
which the bones were found, coupled with the fhct 
of the child ; because here we have traces of an 
ancient barbarous custom, of which a man in his 
position in life, and of his education, had never 
beard. On referring back to my first paper (2*^ 
S. xi. 208.), I do not see that I can alter it: and 
though the sergeant mav draw the long bow, as 
well as wield the broad-sword, I am not quite 
satisfied in my own mind that his story has been 
wholly disproved. P. Hutchinson. 

CoANBLTOS HoxxAND (2** S. xU. 10.) — There 
is a memoir of this person in Mark Noble*8 Lives 
ef Alt Begiddesy vol. L pp. 357—860. Very few 
facts are recorded, and no references are given to 
authorities. I believe that there is no more trust- 
worthy biography of Holland. His name, how- 
ever, frequently occurs in the literature of the 
Civil War and Commonwealth periods. He was a 
native of Essex, said to have been bom at Colches- 
ter. He sat as a judge at the King's trial, but did 
not sign the death warrant He died in Switaer- 
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Notes on Books. 


I beg to bring under the notice of those of your 
readers who have given special attention to the 
writings of Oliver Goldsmith, a little book fur 
children now before me, which I think there are 
good reasons for regarding as one of his fugitive 
productions, and which, in so far as t am aware, 
If not mentioned bj anj of his editors or bio- 

Its title is as follows (verbatim) : — 
•* The Drawing School for Little Masters and Bfisses : 
Containing the most easy and concise Rules for Learning 
to Draw, without the Assistance of a Teacher. Embel- 
lished with a great Variety of Figures curiously designed. 
To which are added the whole Art of Kite*making, and' 
the Author's new Discoveries in the Preparation of Water 
Colonn. By Master Michael Angelo. London, printed 
for T. Caman, at Number 65^ St. Paul's Church Yard. 
MDCCLXXvii. Pr. SdL" 

Mj reasons for thinking that Oddsmith was 
the author of this little manual are various ; bat 
the chief are — the simple grace of its style, the 
evident bonkomis of the writer, and his equally 
evident interest in the sports of childhood* Let 
ma submit one or two extracts, almost at random. 

Under a woodcut of a child's head, the writer 
remarks (p.20) :— 

''This is a nrstty littla bald-patad fallow, who has 
Ptthape torn aU the hair off his head ronning it into a 

btith after some bird's nest However^ ba that as it will, 
first draw the outlines, observing not to give him less 
hair than he has, and to imitate the few strokes resem- 
bling it as nearly as possible. ....'* 

Under the next out he remarks :— » 

*< It is difficult to say whether this Uttle fbllow*s head 
wants combing, or Whether he is naturally what we call 
Shnek-headed. It is no matter which t tut this is certain, 
that the young Artist will find this head of ^air a littla 
more difficult to imiute than the last. ....** 

In reference to ^'Elite-Alaking** the author says 
(p. 06):- 

** After having spent a great part of tb« leisuM 

hours of my life, that is to say upwards of fourscore week% 
in long and studious application to the mvsterious inves- 
tigation of the nature and properties of kites, I think 
myself highly qualified to give all little boj-s proper in* 
structions how to become proficient in this art I could 
not prevail on myself to withhold from the Lilliputian 
world the discoveries I have made, and cannot help flat* 
taring myself that, in future ages, this work will be as 
much read and revered as ever will be either T&m Thtimb or 
Jack the Oiani KUkr. These are only matters of amuse* 
ment ; my work is of the utmost importance to the rising 

We shall only venture on another extract Cpp* 
67,68): — 

** t have raised many a kite without any addition of 
ornaments Into the high regions of the air, whieh has 
attracted the wonder and admiration of many gentleman 
and ladies whom curiosity drew round me. .... When- 
ever i found this particular notice taken of my kite, t 
alwavs pulled it m, and I have constantly found these 
gentlefolks wsit with patience to take a close view of 
what they before had seen only at a great distance^ In 
these cases I doubted not, as soon as I brought it into 
hand, they would admire the due proportion of the 
bender to the straighur, the judicious situation of the 
loop, the length and neatness of the tail, and the just re- 
gularity and uniformity of the whole. But, alas ! instead 
of receiving the expected eoeomlttros, the gentlemen have 
only said, * Why, yon rogue, you have got no stars on 
your kite.' The ladiee have laughed at what the gentle- 
men said, and I left by myself sulky and disappointed. 

** I was one dsy making my complaints on this subjeot 
to my father, who I verily believe la the greatest man 
that ever existed, when after a short pause he mads me 
this answer: 'itfUe, I am not at all displeased with your 
observation, but you do not yet know that convenience 
and simplicity are not the Idols of the preeent age. The 
inquiries of the generality of the world are only aftar 
show and parade, and, without these, merit is of littla 
worth. Taks my advice; add a few ^^artiy stars to yoar 

Sureljr this is not a very usual kind of writinff 
at any tune, least of all in the children's books <2 
the last century. It seems at least to resemble 
Ooldsmith*s style so dosely as to warrant inquiry 
into the history of the little tolume. 

There are several subsidiary circumstances tend- 
ing to strengthen the presumption that Groldsmith 
was its author. , • , 

1. He is believed to have written several booka 
for children, in particular Ooody Two Shoei, 

2. Ctman, the publisher of the Dmwtfi^ iSSpAooA 
was the sacoessor of Kewberry> Goldsmith's chief 

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employer, and was the publtsher of Ooody Two 

3. The jouDg reader of the Drawing School^ 
who may be ** desirous of imitating Nature 
throughout her various productions** is told (p. 
53), that " he may consult Dr. Brooke's Natural 
Hiitory^ Groldsmith edited that work. 

4. Is there not something both Irish-like and 
Goldsmith-like in the writer's making his sup- 
Dosed father (see our last extract) address him, 
Michael Angelo, as Mike f 

6, The cuts of the original edition of Ooody 
Two Shoes were said to be by " Michael Angelo,** 
From The Critic for June 2nd, 1860, I learn that 
a copy of that edition occurred among some books 
which had belonged to the late Mr. Haslewood, 
and which were sold by Sotheby & Wilkinson, 
25th May, 1860. Its title is given in The Critic 
OS follows : — 

"The History of Little Goody Two Shoes .... From 
tho oriffioal MS. in the Vatican at Rome, the cats by 
Michael Angelo. For T. Carnan, successor to J. New- 

I should have mentioned that the Drawing 
ScJiool forms a tiny volume (small 12mo, what is 
often called a 24mo), contains 108 pages, has an 
engraved title, and for a frontispiece a rather 
creditably-executed copper-plate portrait of her 
Majesty's father, " His Royal Highness Prince 
Edward,'* a boy apparently about eight years of 
age, with combed down hair and a gentle expres- 
sion. The work is dedicated to him indeed. 

J. D. 

17, Howe Street, Edinburgh. 


In the Letters of Mr, John Chamberlain to Sir 
Dudley Carleton (just issued to the members of 
the Camden Society as the first book for the pre- 
sent year's subscription, and reviewed in " N. h 
Q." of the 6th July), the writer frequently men- 
tions a lady under no other designation than " i\ly 
Wife," sometimes in a way which would be very 
likely to mislead an ordinary reader, and at others 
connected with statements so embarrassing and 
perplexing that any reader, unassisted by further 
mquiries, would be quite at a loss to know what 
to make of them. 1 beg to extract the pas- 
sages : — 

<< March 5, 1599 1600. I think to go to Knebworth 
very shortly, where I mean to Uny till toward the term, 
when my wife promiseth to come and fetch me homo. (p. 

"June 18, 1600. I could not do my wife the honour 
(as was my meaning) to conduct her some part of the 
way. though she were otherwise sufScienth* accompanied, 
(p. 77.) 

"May 27, 1601. I go to>morrow to Knebworth, 
though I came lately thence about the middle of this last 
terme, being aent for from Ascot some three weeks before 

to meet your ooosin and Mrs. Lytton at Farley abont » 
match for my wife, which is since dispatcbt with yoan|^ 
Giiford, a kinsman of her own. She asked ma aindlr 
for yon, and willed me to remember her to yoo. (p. 109.> 

''July 8, 1601. I am very aorry my last letter to yott 
miscarried, because it conUtned the whole abridgment of 
my progress into Hampshire, my wife's marriage, and » 
great rabblement of such other lik» matter, (p. 111.) 

•• Aug. 18, 1601. I am going to-morrow toward Hamp- 
shire, to gossip with my lady Wallop, lately brought to* 
bed of a son, and so forward to my wife's to see bow she 
is accommodated in all manner implements, (p. 115.) 

" Oct. 2, 1602. From Aicot I met Mr. Lyiton at Sir 
Henry Wallop'a, where I found my wife brought a' bed 
of a boy, wherein I took no great comfort (as [ told hn), 
having so little part in him." (p. 150.) 

The gr&vity and business-like air with whieh 
**My Wife" is mentioned in all these passages^ 
until we arrive at the gentle joke in the last of 
them, shows that the expression had by frequent 
use become familiar to Mr. Chamberlain, and 
that it was also well known to hb correspondent 
Mr. Carleton. Dr. Birch, the transcriber of Cham* 
berlai][i*s letters, did not leave the identity of the 
IlBy uninvestigated, but ascertained her name to 
have been Winifred Wallop; that she was the 
daughter of Sir Henry Wallop, who died in 1599, 
having married Katharine, daughter of Richard 
Gifiord, Esq. ; and that the *' kinsman of her own,** 
with whom she contracted actual matrimony in 
1601, was her maternal cousin Sir Richard GiffbnL 
This satisfies any doubts about theJady: at for 
Mr. Chamberlain himself, '*He does not appear 
to have been married, as there is no reference to 
wife or children in his letters, with the exception 
of a playful title which he gave to Winifred Wal- 
lop." (Preface, p. vii.) 

This is perfectly satisfactory as respects any 
biographical or personal questions ; but does not 
At all explain tr^v Mr. Chamberlain called Wini- 
fred Wallop his Wife. It seems not to have been 
a fanoy wholly peculiar to himself, but rather a 
practice then prevalent; for in the letters of 
George Lord Carew to Sir Thomas Roe (which 
were printed for the Camden Society in 1860), 
there are these passages which are very parallel to 
those in Chamberlaiivs letters,— referring as they 
do to the marriage of the lady and its conse- 
quences, •— except that here the name always 
accompanies the designation " My Wife ** : — 

** 1615, April. Shaamburge is now married to my wife 
Anne Dudley ; he comes shortly hither with a parse fhll 
of money to purchase lands in England, (p. 6.) 

** (Same year.) The 81 Dec. we receved news (which 
is true) thatt my wife Dadle;f, married as you know to 
Monsieur Shaamburge, died in childbed, bat her child 
lives, (p. 21.) 

"1616, August. Monsieur Schomberge, husband to 
my wife Anne Dudlye, is dead." (p. 41.) 

The history of this short-lived union was this. 
Count Meinhardt de Schomberg was a principal 
attendant about Frederick, the Count Palatine of 
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English Princess Elizabeth, he found Anne Dud- 
lej, danghter of Edward 9ih Lord Dudley, in the 
eonrt of the Queen. She accompanied the Electreas 
to Germanj as chief lady of honour, and in June, 
1614| was **made sure to M. Schomberg.** (Birch's 
CauH and Times o/Jcanes I^ i. 825.) After her 
untimely death, so soon succeeded bj that of her 
husband, the orphan infant, whose birth is aboye* 
mentioned, was cherished by his. royal mistress, 
and liyed to accompany William lU. to England, 
and become Duke of Schomberg. 

This history is too remarkable to haye been 
]MB9ed oyer in silence: but my object is not to 
direet attention to it, except as addjnfir interest to 
tlie lady here designated as '* My Wife." Anne 
Dudley, we may presume, was a youthful maid of 
honour. Lord Carew, when he wrote the passages 
aboye quoted, was a graye old courtier of fifty - 
«ight years of age, and Mr. Chamberlain, when he 
wrote the forgoing about Winifred Wallop, was 
approaching fifty. Lord Carew was the Vice- 
Chamberlain of the Queen's household, where 
Anne Dudley was continually in his yiew, and it 
may be 8»d that he called her " My Wife " merely 
Ibecause she was his fayourite among the Queen s 
maids. I cannot, howeyer, help thinking, from the 
constancy with which both he and Chamberlain 
persist in employing the phrase ** My Wife *' when- 
-eyer they mention the person to whom they re- 
ipectiyely apply it, that it ma;jr refer to some 
4K)cial custom that had greater infiuence than a 
casual preference, but of which we haye now lost 
sight. I therefore b^ historical readers to be on 
■the watch for its recurrence in other correspon- 
dence of the same period. J* G. Nichols. 


Si. Peter's Churchy Drogheda, — This ancient 
ccdenastical edifice oyerlooks the town of Droff- 
heda, and the historic riyer of Boyne. Within its 
site were interred seyeral primates and bishops of 
Ireland, and sundry other prelates were conse- 
crated. There, in the commencement of the 
fifteeenth century, was deliyered that wholesome 
exhortation of brotherly love and Christian bene- 
volence, which united two theretofore jealous and 
weak corporations into one industrious and in- 
fluential community. The Boyne water had been 
the demarcation of diyided interests and hostile 
feelings fas it unhappily was in some subsequent 
eenturies). On this occasion, howeyer, from the 
Temple ef their God went forth the yoice of 
peace and charity, that laid the foundation of 
Drogheda*s prosperity. In 1548 the steeple 
«f &(a church, then represented as ** one of the 
highest in the world,'* was prostrated by a tem- 
pest Guillim*s JDisplaye of Heraldry^ published 
m 1638, notices ** a coat armour standing on a 

'glass window in this church." The memorable 
yisitation of Cromwell, however, in September, 
1649, irretrievably injured this edifice; it hav- 
ing been then blown up, involvinff in its ruin a 
part of the garrison and many of the most re- 
spectable inhabitants who bad fled thither for 
refuge, — but Cromwell did not admit the benefit 
of sanctuary. 

The register of this church is perhaps one of the 
best preserved, and most complete in Ireland 
(see History of Drogheda^ vol. i. p. 83, &c.). It , 
commences, in 1654, with the civil marriages then 
celebrated by the Mayor, or other magistrate of 
the town, and so thence to burials and baptisn^s. 
The sepulchral records of the graveyard are to 
Robert Cadell, formerly sheriff of Drogheda, who 
died in 1637 ; to Henry O^le, ob. 1675, and to 
his descendants ; Thomas Dixon, formerly mayor 
of Droizheda, ob. 1689; Matthew Fleming, ob. 
1703 ; Meades of Drogheda, 1709 ; Bobert Smith 
of Drogheda, ob. 1702 ; Alderman William Fat- 
ten, ob. 1710; Alderman Fatrick Flunkett^ ob. 
1708, and to Catherine his wife ; at the head of 
this stone the family armorials are carved. At- 
kinsons from 1730; Alderman John Godfrey, 
ob. 1734; Schoaless from 1722 ; Broughtons from 
1737 ; Cuthberts from 1736 ; the Cheshires, 
formerly of Shrewsbury, with particulars of their 
genealogy from 1694 to 1820 ; Faircloughs from 
1753; Drumgooles from 1760; Fleming, James, 
merchant of Drogheda, ob. 1 756 ; Fleming, Francis, 
son of Matthew, which last died as aforesaid in 
1703 ; Gibson, Rev. John, ob. 1794, and to some 
of his ancestors ; Goldsmith, Rev. Isaac, rector of 
Cloyne, ob. 1769; Harpurs of Mell from 1723; 
Lelands from 1741 ; John Vanhomrigh, ob. 
1785 ; to Acklands, Armstrongs, Blacker^ Camp- 
bells; to Theobald Bourke of Drogheda, oo. 
1779 ; to Capt. Duncan Campbell of £e town of 
Drogheda steam-boat, born at Glendernwell in 
the Highlands of Scotland ; to William Charter 
of Northumberland, late of the 16th Foot, ob. 
1762 ; to Davises, Fagans, Feelys ; to Mrs. Mar- 
garet Fisher, who died in 1795, and who, it is 
stated on the stone, was the eldest daughter of the 
Rey. John Brett, D.D., and lineally descended 
from Lord Chancellor Clarendon ; to Col. John 
French of the 71st Regiment, ob. 1812 ; to Hard- 
mans, Leighs, Lindsays, Normans, and Singletons ; 
to Capt. William Hyde of the 72nd Regiment of 
Highlanders, son of John Hyde, Esq., of Mon- 
tague Square, London, who died in 1829, aged 
twenty-eight; to Capt. Reed, of the North Down 
Regiment, who died in Drogheda * this monument 
was erected by his brother officers,* &c. 

Embedded in the wall, at the north-east corner 
of this cemetery, is a very old monument to Ed- 
mund Goulding of Peristown, and to Elizabeth 
Fleming, second daughter of the Baron of Slane. 
Near it is another monument to Nicholas Dar- 

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dits, formerlf of Drogheda, wbo died id 1516 ; 
to WilliaiD DardiU, his son, and Matilda Netter<< 
irille, bis wif^. Tlie tombaioiiM in St. Marj^a 
church jard, at the opposite aide of the town, are 
fewer, though not leas interesting ; but ^ sufficient 

Ibr the day "- Jowi D'Ai.tom. 

U. Unrnmu HU1» Dublin. 

THE COMET, 1861. 
«* T«rvoNii|«$ in oasl% atsigna RiagM.'''**'^. Zm, Y^ii 

Whence art Thou P sudden Comet of the Sun I 

In what far depths of God thine Orient Place f 
Whence hath thy World of Light sucb radiance 
To gleam and curye along tbe Cone of Spaoe ? * 


Why comett Thou? weird wanderer of the air I 
What is thine Oracle for shuddering eyes P 

Wilt thou some myth of crownlets kin^rs declare, 
Scathed by thy fhtal Banner of the skies P 

Or dcil thou glide, a aee thing Orb of Doom, 

BrisUioff with penal fires, and thick with Souls, 
The serer'd Ghosts, that throng thy .peopled womb 

Whom Asrael, Warder of the dead, oontrola f 


Throne of some lost Archangel I dost thou glare 
Ailer long battle, on that conquering height P 

Vaunt, of a Victory, that is still, despair, 
A l^rophied Horror on the %roh of night ! 

But lo I another dream : Thou starry Grod I 
Art thou the mystic Seedsman of the Sky P 

To shed new Worlds along thy radiant road 
That flow in floods of bulowy hair on high. 


Boll on t yet not almighty : in thy wrath 
Thou bendest like a Vassal to hit King : 

Thou darest not o'erstep thy graven path, * 
Kor yet one wanton smile of brightness fling. 


Slave of a mighty Master I be thy Brow 
A Parable of Night, in Radianoe poured : 

Amid thy haughtiest courses what art thou P 
A lamp, to lead some pathway of the Lord I 

R. 8. Hawkvb. 


* 7^ Omm of Amhm.-^ Space is that nsMored part of 
Qod*« Pretence, which is oocepied by tha Plaaeu and 
the Son. The bpondary of &^Ge is the OatUne of a 
Cone. ' ' 


8o little is known of this worthy writer, who, 
like John Chamberlain, has left so mueh gossip 
of others and so little as regards himself or 
his personal history, that any fragment, however 
meagre, eannot but be aooeptable. Might I in* 
(juire if any thing has been done towards pub- 
lishing his personal diarv, which was at one tim* 
talked of, and which he left written whimsi- 
eally in Greek characters. It certainly does 
not contain much beyond a record of his hours 
of rising, and method of spending bis days, 
where and how be dined, what friends called, lie. 
An eccentric gentleman he doubtless was, for he 
enters frequently in his diary whenever be had 
imbibed too much, which, I am sorry to say, was 
not unfrequent, although he never seems to have 
neglected *^ prayers.'* He spent his time easilv, 
and perhtps un profitably, Ibr an almost daily 
entry in his diary is, '' did odd things/* If I re- 
member rightly, he lived and died at Chelsea, and 
was a justice of the peace \ but perhaps some one 
of your readers may be enabled to supply some 
additional note. 

« S^. —I was to wait on you tq beg a faronr for y«loan 
of a manascript of yoars ("tli Leiand's Itinerary) w«* I 
saw accidentally at a friead'a, from whom the Incloatd 
comas on my behalf to rtqaett y temei if yon pieata 
te favour mt to fanr yon mty stnd it by y* beafer. ^ I 
astare yon I will take great care of it, and return >" same 
very safe, and will not part with it out of my own cus- 
tody ; & If I am so happy to know when may be a 
convenient time to wait on you, I will take the firat op- 
portonity to retain yon many thanks ibr thU favoar, to 
him who ia ** loor vszy harnble eenrS 



•« Over ag^ y Home 
Taveme in Holbome. 
f For Bobi. Harley, Etqr. 

at his Chamber in y« Inner Temple." 

This letter would seem to have been accom- 
paniedf or rather preceded, by another by way oi 
an intit^duetion ; — 

" Apr. 20*»» Lon. 
*< S>— This Bearer my good freiod 11' Luttrell hat!) de- 
sired rae to recommend niro to you that you would let 
him IooIe over y Leyland's /h<ierory, w*^ I retamed yon 
yesterday. It' ia more then a little impadent in me to 
take a riaa from y* kiadoeata to ms to importune you for 
another, and had I not bad experience of hit care in re- 
turne of Hanuocripta I would not mention it ; but tliat I 
have frequent 1}- don, and therefore I can w*^ con6dence 
answere for him in that particular. I am just going out 
of Towne, ft only time to tell yoa I am entirely S^, 
** T' affiwtionaU & faithfoii humble tervS 
&c &c> 


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CoLUUBUfl. — The following anecdote may be 
intereBting to some of your readers. 

Captain D'Auberville, in the bark ChiefUdn, of 
BoatoQ, put iiito Gibraltar on the 27(b of Aogqit, 
1$/(1, He went, wil;b two of his pansengors, acroif 
the Straita to Mount Abylui, on tho A/riem 
eooHi U Ibey were on the point of retarning, oimi 
of the orew picked up what appeared to be a 
piece of rock, but. which the captain thought to 
oe a kind of pumice-stone. On examination it 
waa found to m a cedar keg completely incriisted 
with barnacles and other marine shells. The keg 
waa opened, and wfthin was ibund a cocoa-Qut 
enveloped in a kind of gum or resinous substance. 
Within the oocoa-npt ^ell was a piece of parch- 
ment eoYcred with very old writing* whiob none 
of those present copld read. Ao American mer^ 
chant JO Gibralur then read it. and found that it 
waa a brief account, drawn up by Columbus in 
1493, of bis American discoTcnes up to that time. 
It was addressed to Ferdinand ana Isabella. It 
stated that, according to the writer*B judgment, 
the ahipa could not rarviTa anothor day \ that 
thej were between the weatem isles and Spain ( 
that two similar narratives were written and 
thrown into the sea, in oaaa tfa« eara?al ahould 
go to the bottom. 

Captain D'AubenriUe's narratiTe waa givio in 
the LmdniUU VarisHsSy whence it waa copied into 
The Times of that year. " T. M. 

A ConiciDBircs. •-.* About the time of the breidc^ 
ing out of the war of 1812 between Great Britain 
and the United States, a whale ascended the Pela« 
ware to Philadelphia, ninety miles from the ocean, 
and was oaogfat. Noneb^s since been known to do 
so until ^'ust before the beginning of the rebellion 
of the Filibnsters, when another came up to Phile* 
delphia, and was cnught, M* £• 

BisBor Blomtibu). — A worthy life of this in- 
defatigable scholar and devoted churchman has 
still to be written. Mr. Luard contributed a 
notice of his classical publications to The Journal 
of CUuMical and Sacred PhiUihgy^ iv. )96, eeq. 
348. He assisted Bp. Monk in his edition of the 
Hippolytue rMonk*s Pnrface% and collated the 
Emmanuel MS. of the Shield of ffercules (pr 
Gaisford's Heeiod (Gaisford*8 Preface,) See, too, 
the Christian Remembrancer^ ToL ▼. p. 411, seq., 
and a letter to him by Chas. Butler in the Pam- 
phUteer, zxv. p. 76. Johm £. B. Matob, 

St. John's College, Gambridgeb 

JoHM FlSBBB, BiSVOP 07 £xBTB» Ain> SaU8* 

nvBT. —J As Miss Rnight*8 Autobiography has re* 
called Bishop Fisher to a temporary, and not very 
euTiable celebrity, it may be worth while to in* 
dicate aome other aouroes, from which a more 
&YonrBUe cbBrao^ of him may be derived. See 

his life in the Annual Biography^ vol. x- (18^6), 
pp. 219—231 ; (cf. the vol, for 1835, n, 414 b, 
and a notice of his brother Eicbard Befward in 
the volume for 1824, p. 481 b) ; PubHc Charac 
ters (1823), iii. 3^5, and Bicfgraphical Dictionary 
of living Authors, 1816. lie was of St. Faurs 
school (Carlisle's Orammar Schools^ ii. p. 97) $ 
and his name occurs among the subscribers to 
Jebb*s Works^ when he wa» Canon of Windsor and 
King's Cbaplain^-^-a proof, as far as it goes, of his 
liberality of mind. His widow (of 60, Upper 
Seymour Street) occnrs among the subscribers to 
Casian*8 Bishops cf Bath tmd Wells; and bia 
daughter is noticed in ^e Gent. Mag, 18i$0, 
p. 542. JooB K B. M4TOB* 

St. John's College, Cambridge. 

Bbautt of thb Risikg Tub. — Any one who 
h^B taken delight in lingering on the sea-beach, 
must be aware that the tide coming in is a finer 
thing to watch than the tide going out. But, un- 
less 1 am much deceived, the observation may be 
carried further. On looking from a modf^rate 
elevation across an estuarpr or narrow sea, it bail 
often struck nm that — without reference to the 
height of the water — the flowing tide is a npbler 
object to looking upon than the ebbing tide. I 
should be glad to appeal to the observation of 
your readers for a confirmation of my views on 
this point. And I may be permitted to add, by 
way of suggestion, that those whose summer ram- 
bles lead them to the Menai Straits, vr ill have 
an excelient opportunity of testing tbeir correct* 
nets. P. S. Cabbt* 

Embowoibt. ^- Gomp. Ohaueer, Cant, Tales, 1. 
200: — 

** He was a lord ftil fat and in goedpoynt" 

Could not we revive this expression f It sounds 
far better than tn good case. F. 0. 

DiniB-BBLL.-»The origin of this name for. th^ 
pair of welUknown heavy leaden weights used for 
rausoular exeroiaea, is probably little known. They 
take their name, by analogy, from a machine ooa>- 
sistiag of a rough, heavy, wooden fly-wheel with « 
rope pasaing through and round a spindle, which 
projects from one side, the whole apparatus being 
secured by stanchions to the ceiling of a room, 
and aet in motion like a church bell, till it ao- 
ouired sufficient impetus to carry the gymnast 
up and down, and so bring the muscles of the 
arms into play, though in a less wholesome and 
more dangerous manner than that now in use by 
means of its leaden successors. A specimen of 
the old-fashioned apparatus still exists in I^ew 
College, Oxford, though long removed from its 
original position. Sigma. 

FnBCTUATioB. — In our usual habits, punctua- 
tion, or the want of it may or may not affect the 
reader's view of the meaning. It is therefore 

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desirable to avoid ambiguities which can only 
be decided by the comma. According to the 
reports, the following deliverance was uttered in 
Convocation on the 20th of June. The speaker 
is made to sav :— ^* His contention was that there 
was nothing m the Mosaic statements which were 
at variance with the discoveries of modern science.** 
We happen to be able to see, by place, person, and 
context, that *'were** is a misprint for *^ was**; 
but as some persons hold the above opinion, as 
understood more clearly with a comma afler 
^statements,** and as it is not certain that the 
comma would appear, even when desirable, this is 
a gDod instance of the disadvantage of completing 
the sense too early. The fiflh and sixth words, 
^ there was,** and the word *^ which,** are superflu* 
ous and worse than useless. The word ^* noUiing ** 
really requires a system of rules of grammar all 
to itself. M. 

Gbbat Fibk. — The newspapers, in their wisdom, 
have repeatedly told us of late, that the fire in 
Tooley Street is the greatest since that of 1666. 
But in July, 1794, there was a fire commencing 
in Ratdiffe Highway, in which 730 houses were 
destrof ed. See Adam8*s View of Univeraal Hi*' 
taiTf, vol iii. pp. 896, 897. A. B. Y. Z. 


Ambm. — There is a story now-a-days of a 
country parish, in which the clergyman had esta- 
blished a better order of things than had before 
existed in his church; whose parish clerk com- 
plained to a neighbour that they had now such 
new- (t. e, old) fangled ways, that he really 
thought the next thing would be that the people 
would begin to say ** Amen ** for themselves. 

As a layman, I wish to know whether it is right 
or wrong to respond to the Lord's Prayer and the 
next cofiect in our pre-communion service, one 
or both. I know what is said in Hook's Church 
Dictionary^ but still the ** Amen ** after them is 
sometimes in ** Roman,** and at others in ^ Italic *' 
type; sometimes I find the priest, at others the 
people, say the word. All the Oxford-printed 
Prayer Books by me have *^Amen** after the 
Lord*s Prayer *^ Roman,** and after the second 
prayer ** Italic ; ** in others, both are of the one 
or of the other type. As to the parish *' clerk,** 
wherever he is, I suppose he always says *' Amen ** 
unless he is positively forbidden to do so. 

J. F. Strbattbiij). 

Thb Cabmagkoub. — There is an English song 
to this tune, two lines of which run thus : — 

•* The Dake of York with flaming trms (repeat). 
They say would do us wond*roas harms (repeat),** 

It is, I presume, a translation from the French, 
though there is nothing like it in the song com- 

monly published, commencing ** Madame Veto.** 
Where are all the words of it to be found ? 

M. E. 

B. B. Fbltus. — Can any of your Irish readers 

five me any information regarding Mr. B. B. 
'eltus, who is author of ** Sonnets upon Mary, 
Queen of Scots,'* published in The Dublin Uni- 
vereity Magazine^ June, 1851, voL Ivii. pp. 679 — 
682. A. Z. 

Fis Pbnht, Fis Fbb. — ^What is the meaning of 
Fis Penny, or Fis Fee, a payment formerly made 
in Worcester and some other places on the Feast 
of the Purification. A. H. 

Flowbb.— In Wood*s Ath, Oxon, is a short ac- 
count of the Rev. John Flower, who was minister 
of Staunton, co. Notts., in 1658. I am desirous 
to obtain particulars respecting his descendants 
(if he left any), or of otner Nottinghamshire or 
Lincolnshire clergymen of the same surname who 
were living about the year 1700. J. H. C. 

Gloucbstbb Cathbdbal Libbabt. — In the 
copy of the sealed Prayer-Book in this Library, 
in the Act for Unifonnity, 14 Charles IL, the 
pen has been drawn across the word " subscribe,** 
and ** subscribble ** written in the margin. Does 
this alteration occur in all the copies of the sealed 
book P C. Y. Cbawlbt, Librarian. 

HBBBDrrABT DiONiTiBs. — Mr. Cruise, in his 
Treatise upon Dignities^ speaks only of three 
modes by which dignities are created, viz. by char^ 
ter, by tetters patenty and by writ — all these pass 
under the Great Seal. I would ask some of vour 
readers who may have given consideration to Wal 
questions connected with the prerogative of the 
crown, whether an hereditary dignity can be 
created by a mere warrant or sign mamud only? 
If so, is there any instance of a title or dignity 
now in existence which has descended to, or is 
now inherited by, any person under a mere sign 
manual only ? S. N. G. 

Jamaica Famtubs. — Any reader of " N. & Q.** 
who has transcripts of monumental inscriptions 
of the families McDonald and Wassels of Tre- 
lavny will much oblige by sending copies of them 
to me addressed as under. R. W. Dixon. 

Seaton-Carew, co. Durham. 

MiNSHAw Famllt. — I should feel greatly ob- 
liged if any of your genealogical readers can in- 
form me the origin of the name of Minshaw ; and 
furnish any information as to the ancestors and 
descendants of Charles Minshaw of the Maze 
Pond, Southwark, who died in the year 1781. 
Any genealogical information, copies of inscrip- 
tions, &c., &C., relating to the above family, will 
be acceptable. The name being uncommon, it 

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affords facilities for tracing, as all who bear it 
may be assumed to be related. J. B. D. 

" NocTss Ambrosianjb." — Can any of your 
readers inforin me whether the late Captain 
Hamilton, author of Cyril Thornton and other 
works, took any part in the composition of the 
^'Noctes Ambrosianse** ot Blackwood^ 8 Magazine? 
Are the names of the yarious writers of the Noctes 
known? Besides Wilson and Lockhart, I have 
seen the name of Dr. Dunlop of Canada (who 
died about 1848) mentioned as contributing to 
these papers. I think Dr. Shelton M^Kenzie 
published an edition of the Noctes in America, 
which may afibrd some information as to the 
authorship. B. Ibgjlis. 

Captain H. C. Fembbbtok. — ^Will any of your 
readers be good enough to trace the pedigree of 
the Pemberton family, and also inform me who 
the representatives of the family now are, more 
especially with reference to the late Captain H. 
C. Pemberton, B.N., who married a Miss Nixon. 


BicBABB PowBix, M.D. — ^Docs any monumen- 
tal memorial exist of Bichard Powell of Cecil 
Street, Strand, Doctor of Medicine and Fellow of 
the College of Physicians ? If so, where is it to 
be found, and what are its terms ? Dr. Powell 
lived in the early part of the present century. 

F. S. A. LoMD. 


Quotations. — The following is said to have 
been found on a tombstone : — 

'* Corporis pnlvere plambnm in aorom conyerfcit." 
Where does this occur ? J. T. T. 

** May heaven be bis lot, he deserves it, I'm sure. 
Who was first the inventor of kissing." 

Whose lines are these P and what lines precede 
them and follow them P Sigma. 

Wm. Bidbb. — There is an old play called The 
Twins, by Wm. Bider, M.A., published in 1655, 
but acted many years earlier, at the private house, 
Salisbury Court. Is the name of the author to 
be found in the catalogue of Cambridge graduates, 
and is anything further known regarding him ? 

K. Iholis. 

Rosbbbbbt Topping. — What is the derivation 
of Boseberry Toppinff, the name of a hill in Cleve- 
land P I have seen it written Rosebury Topping 
on pp. 184, 185, and in Chap. xvi. of il MonJUi in 
Yorkshire by Walter White, 1858, we are told 
that this name is of Danish origin, and that it is 
derived from " Boss^ a heath," " Burg, a fortress;** 
and *'Toppen for apex.** I have consulted the 
following Danish Dictionaries, namely, JSngehk^ 
Dansk Ordbog of S. Bosing: Kdbenhavn, 1853; 
also, Dansk'lSfigelsk Ordb^ of J. S. Ferrall og 
ThorL Gudm. Bepp.: Kjobenhavn, 1845 ; and that 

valuable work Dansk Ordbog [&c.] af C. Molbech : 
Kjobenhavn, 1 859,** and the result is, that I find 
no word like Bose, having the meaning of a heath. 
I have asked a friend deeply learned in old Norse 
whether there was any word meaning heath any 
way resembling Bose in sound. My friend told 
me that he could not find any such word in the 
latter language. Again, I cannot find such a 
word as Bvrg, meaning a fortress, in Danish. 
But there is the word Borg, a castle or fortress. 
But I think it much more likely that -berry is 
derived from the Danish word Berg, a rocky hill. 
In Swedish this word would be pronounced berr ; 
both the letters r r being pronounced. This is a 
pronunciation which we have not in modern cur« 
rent English. It has been remarked that the 
dialects of Norway are more like Swedish than 
Danish. We know that the dialect of Cleveland 
fully shows that that district was peopled by 
Norsemen. Therefore I think it very likely that 
the Swedish pronunciation of Berg was that of 
the Norsemen who colonised Cleveland. Now the 
Swedish pronunciation would be very likely to be 
changed into Berry. Any one who has learnt 
anything of Swedish will know how difficult' the 
right pronunciation of Berg is, and how easy it is 
to make the mistake of pronouncing it Jaerry, 
The word Topping, I think, is derived from the 
Danish word Top, en (top, summit.) 

Edwin Abmistbad. 

Salt orvBN to Shbbp. -— In an article on the 
sheep-walks in Spain, which I have met with in 
the third volume of Selections of Curious Articles 
from the QeiUUmarCs Magazine, p. 356, it is 
stated : — 

" The first thing the shepherd does when the flock re- 
turns from the south to their summer downs, is to give 
them as much salt as they will eat; they eat none in 
their journey from one feeding pasture to another, nor in 
their winter walk ; but then they never eat a grain of 
salt when they are feeding in limestone land." 

Will any of your readers who have travelled 
through Spain inform me whether the practice of 
giving salt to sheep continues to the present day ? 
And I should like to know from your agricultural 
readers, whether the practice applied to English 
sheep would improve their flesn or wool, and 
bring them early to perfection ? 

The whole of the above article will amply repay 
perusal, but I regret I cannot give a reference to 
the volume of the magazine from which it is 
taken, for the compiler of the selection has pro- 
yokingly omitted a reference.* Fea. MawsuBK. 

Larchfield, Darlington. 

Edmund Southbbitb.— I shall be much obliged 
by any information concerning him. He was the 
author of the first original work in English on the 

[• Vide Gent. Mag., vol. Ix. pt. i. p. OS.] 

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manii^ement of bees. It was published in 1593, 
and is entitled A Treatise eanceminf the Right 
Use and Ordering of Bees, S(^. On its title-pa<^e 
he styles himself ** Gent.** ; and having added that 
the pamphlet is dedicated to ^ Mistres Margaret 
Astley, wife to John Astley, Esquier, Master and 
Treasurer of her Majesty's Jewels and Plate," 
with whom he seems to have been on terms of 
friendship, I have recorded afl that I know about 
him. Q". W. J. 

Smoucht ob Poht. — a oorrespondent ai Th0 
Times^ describing the eountry life of yonnff ladies 
of fashion, makes them fioish the day with ** tba 
romp of * Whip up Snouchy or Pont.* ** Will on* 
of your Belgrariaa readers explain thu phrase to 


OaioiKAL MS. oi" JmiBMT Tatlok. — A colo- 
nial newspaper says that one of the Bath clersfr 
has Intely found, in a book-stall, an original MS. 
of Bp. Jeremy Taylor*s Prayers and Meditations, 
Can there be any foundation for this statement P 

C. P. E. 

Wills and Admtwistbatiows. — Mr. R. Sims, 
in his excellent Manual for the OenealogisU jrc., 
says at pa^re 343., ". . . . the legacy books at 
the Stamp Office afford evidence not only of the 
degree of relationship of a legatee, but also of 
the common ancestor through whom such rela* 
tionship exists.** Acting upon the above, I once 
applied for the relationship between Elizabeth 
Rawlings of the city of Durham (will proved 
10 Oct. 1797) and Robert Henry M'Donald of 
the same place, her reslduaty legatee, but to no 
purpose, although I expressly pointed out the im- 
portance to me of Che information required. I 
was told in two letters, courteously but firmly, 
that such information was not permitted to be 
given. R. W. Dixon. 

SeatoB-Carsw, co. Durham. 

Attftfetf iDitt gftnllitrC 

Jamss Cbagos. — Macaulay in his History of 
England, iv. 547, says : — 

"JamMCraggs was now (1695) eatsrinff on a carser 
which was destined to end after a quartsr of a century of 
prosperity in unalterable misery and despair." 

What was Ihat end? Addison on his death- 
bed (1719) dedicated his Works to him, then 
Secretary of State, as a mark of his friendship ; 
and Tickell, in his preface to Addison's Works 
(1721), deplores the death of Craggs — '^Cut off 
in the flower of his age, and carried from the high 
office wherein he had succeeded Mr. Addison, to 
be laid next him in the same grave.** F. W. 

[Oar correspondent has rolled father and son into one 
personage. The following notioe of the two Cra^gs in 
an anonymous Hitiory ofSm^attd, % yols. 8yo. 1728 (toI. 

ii. p. 408), will dear np his diffiealty. "Oa Feb. 16, 
1720, died the Secretary of State, James Graargs, jan. ; a 
roan of bright genius and of lively parts ; a good speaker, 
a generotts ftiend, and an able ministsr. His death so 
much afflscted his father (who was also attached by the 
Cominittee of Serrecy for corruption of the South Ssa 
project, and was desij^ned for a sacrifice by some), that 
he lilcewise died on the 16th of March, in a lethargick 
fit, nerer receiving nor admitting any comfort after the 
loss of a son for whom he had amassed an iaflaite heap ef 
riches, and ia whom he expected all the happiness that 
hoeoors, and grandear, and the fliTOors ef a eoait eaa 


Smollbit. — I request to be informed on the ibl- 
lowing subjects : •— 

1. Boswell records a conversation with Johnson, 
in which the latter praised two parodies as being 
the best of modern times ; one an " Ode to Obli- 
vion," the other an *' Ode to Obscurity.** They 
were written by Geo. Colman and Robt. Lloyd in 
conjunction. Where can I find these odes t 

2. Soon after Johnson*s death, Soame Jenyna 
wrote a rather petulant attack upon him, in the 
form of an epitaph. It is printed in the AsjfUtm 
for Fugitive Pisces^ vol. iL p. 290, and concludes 
thus : — 

« Would you know all his wisdom and his folly, 
His actions, M^in^s, mirth, and melancholy, 
Boswell and Tlirare *, retailers of his wit, 
Will tell yon how he wrote, and talked, and conghM, 
and spit." 

This epitaph is said to have nettled Boswell 
very mucn, and he wrote an answer to it equally 
bitter, if not so witty. Where oan I find Boa« 
welPs answer ? 

8. The celebrated George, Lord Lyttelton, on 
the death of his first wife (Miss Lucy Fortescue), 
wrote a beautiful monody on it, beginning — 

'* Made to engage all hearts and charm all eyes," 

which has been much admired, but which, it is 
said, has been most cruelly parodied by Smollett. 
Where can I find this parody P c. fi. e. 

[1. George Colman's "Ode to Obscurity," and Robert 
Lloyd's *'Ode to Oblivion," will be fbund fn Alex. Chal- 
mers's OMfctvm o/Enplish Poets, vol. XV. pp. 98, M. 

2. BosweU's EfriUph <• Prepared for a creature not 
quite dead yet," i «. Soame Jenyns, is printed in BosweH's 
JMk ofJokMon, bv Croker, ed. 1853, p. 106. 

8. Smollett*s **l3urleaqtte Ode" on Lord Lyttelton's 
monody will be found in Smollett's WaH^ % vols. ed. 
1797, VOL 1. p. SSL. See also Chalmers's OoUstftkm nf 
Engtmk FoHs, vol Xy, p. 686.] 

LocK-HosptrALS. — Why so designated? And 
what the derivation here of the term Loeh f J. L. 

[The term Lock is supposed to be derived from the oM 
Norman-French Logues, rags, or fragments, ttom, the 
application of such rags to wounds and sores ; but more 
probably from the Saxon Aw or li»At. to shut close or con- 
fine. The Lock Hoepital, which formerly stood at the 
south-east comer of iCent Street (sod from which the 

• Mn. Piozsi. 

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prcMt H<M|»{ta] protaUr Ukm its n«Be), was atieieiitl^ 
a hoaae for the reosption and cura of lapen: it after- 
warda bacame attached to St. Bartholomew's Homital* 
and, with the Lock at Kiiigsland. afterwards called the 
'* Kinnland 'Spittle,*' was appropriated to the cure of one 
spedai cl8« of palf eata^ ] 

Gbhxsai* Hayejlook. — Tou will oblige b/ an* 
sweriog me, through ihe mediBm of /our iournal, 
when^ where, and on what occasion, General Have- 
lock addressed his troops as stated on his stetne ia 
Trafalgar Square ? — 


••Toar labeling roar prirations* /our saflMags, 
and jour yalour, win not M forgotten hj a gratoal 
000067." _ _ 

C. F. M. 

[These memorable words have a peonliar and melan- 
choly interest, as belnff the last which came ft-om the 
pen of Sir Henry HavMock, the daj aflev the battle of 
BMioor [Aag. 16, 1657], and were addraasad to his little 
army, which had aoyed back to Oawnpofe on the mem- 
mg of the 17th. Fids Jiaishman's ifsSiotrs qf Sir JI, 
Savdock, p. 861.1 

CkmaM> DH HottlnrioB. <^ In the libtrary of 
Stanford Gonrt is a eopy of the ^ork called FcM- 
eietdus Temporutn^ of which there am, I belierei 
many editions. Sereral are mentioned in Dib* 
din*8 Bibiiotk. Spenc^r*^ but not the one I possess. 
The printer's date at Uie conclusion is thus t — > 

"Impressom p me COradfl de Ffoemwicb, meoq; s!g- 
neto signatam explicit Mldtef. Sab anno dfi^i Milessimo 
qnadrlngetttlsimo Mtuageeimo seato (1476) fbria leata 
ante Blartini £pi. I^ quo sit Deoa gloriesas benedictas 
in secola, Amen." 

There is a large coloured capital O to the pre- 
face, and other woodcuts^ Can any of your re*« 
defn infbrm me ivho Conrad de Uoemwioh was« 
and where his printing-press existed t 

Thomas fii WtMaQtoK. 

Btanfbrd Coart. 

rConradtts de Hoemboh*h (Sa the name is nsnally 
spelt) was a printer at Ooloala Agtlppiaa (Cologne). 
Tbsre is a description of this edition of the Fasetcafos 
TeH^forum by Haio, Bepertarium Bibiwgraphicmn, Na 
6919 : see also Panzer, i. 280 ; Bmnet^ ed. 1S42< iL 254, 
and the Caulogae of Dr. Kloss*s Library, p. 127. where 
it is called the third edition. Some incidental notices of 
the early editions of Foscteiifitf Toniporftm will be found 
in our l*> fi. IL 824 { ir, 148, 276.*] 

Captaiit RicHABD DowsE, — You Will greatly 
oblige by insertinir the following Query in youf 
valuable paper. Who was, or what was, the cause 
of the following being inscribed on a mourning 
ring which I chanced to see the other day, viz., 
"Capt. Rd. Dowse. Bora 1760. Sacrificed 1794?*' 

V C. D. A. 

[Capt Richard Dowse, commanding engineer at Gua- 
daloape, in the West Indies, was taken a prisoner by the 
French in June, 1794. His name appears in the list of 
the officers of the army who died or were killed daring 
the campaign in the West Indies^ under Lieat-Gen* Sir 
Charles Grc^and Ylce*Adni. Sir John Jervis, in the 
year 1794. He was no dpabt aacrifced by the infamous 

Victor Hngnes, who erected a nillotlne, and stmck off 
the faeada of about fifty of our brave oountrymen. The 
ciiiers were tied hand to hand, and, being drawn up on 
the sides of those trenches which their valour had ao weU 
defended, were fired at by recruits; and the living, the 
dead, and the wounded, all falling together, were in- 
stantly buried in one common grave.-^ Vuk Brenton*b 
Lif^ ami CarrupemdemM ofJ6kHf Earl of 8t. VlmtmL i, 
112; and WiUyaas's ikmp^a^i^ m ilm frmi ImUti, M, 



<fi"«6.zi. ^4; xii. 12.) 

Some weeks ago I was in the chapel at Ash- 
ridge Park, built for the Duke of Bridgewater by 
Wyatt. In the ^ery centre, the noole owner 

f laced the brass of a certain John Swynefbrd (if 
remember the name rightly), "rector bujus ec- 
clesias," which he took from a neighbouring church! 
I beliere when the present owner of Ashridge 
(Earl Brownlow) comes of age, the brass thus 
*4ified** will be restored to the vacant place fV'om 
whence it came, and to the great satisfaction of 
the incumbent, and all other honest men. 

Still more recently, I was in the priory church 
at Dttttstable, where the sentence of divorce th 
Queen Katharine's ease was read. The sight 
there of attempts at restoration, marred by car* 
pentering and churchwardening, is enough to 
wring the heart of the most stoical Fellow of th* 
Society of Antiquaries, or of ant other society. 
For my part, I found some balm in Gilead. The 
senton, as t undeirstood him to be, showed me 
various fragments of brasses which he had met 
with ** kicking about the church.*' These he hai 
ooUeoted and arranged on some boarding, after 
the fashion of pictures in a scrap-book: at all 
events he had preserved them. " He thought,** 
was his remark, that **they might interest some* 
body.** Nobody there cared Ibr them but he| 
and, on parting from him, I pressed his hand with 
a sincere respect^ deeming him, in my own mind, 
worthy of being named a honorary fellow of the 
illustrious brotherhood above- noticed. 

A few days only ago I was walking in the 
churchyard at Wotton — John £velvn*s Wot ton. 
On the top of the flat monument on the left of the 
south door of the church, I saw lying, amid some 
looselyscattered rubbish, a fragment of an in- 
scribed tombstone. The inscription was difficult 
to decipher, but it bore the name (as well as I 
could make it out In the dusk) of Wye, a •* rector 
hujus ecclesisB,*' too, who died in 1701. It also 
commemorated his wife Catherine, who died in 
1704. Had I been feloniously-minded I might 
easily have carried this fragnaent away ; and any 
boy mischievously-minded might easily pitch the 
Stone into the next ditch. I could not but feel 

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sorry that the memorial of such contemporaries of 
Evelyn, — of one to whoee oreaching he may have 
listened, — should be treated with such neglect and 
disrespect. But I remembered that Mr. Upcott, 
some forty-four ;^ears ago, had discovered John 
£velyn*8 Diary in an old clothes-basket in a 
garret at Wotton House; and thus recollecting 
that there was small value attached here ** to things 
like these,** as the MSS. were called, I despond- 
ingly turned my ponVs head in the direction of 
Brockham, and the table there spread for me. 


P.S. Since I have got back among my books, 
I have referred to Evelyn's Diary, and there find 
the following notice of the man whose tombstone 
is now treated with such scanty measure of re- 
spect : — 

*<27th Feb. 1701. Mr. Wye, Rector of WottoD, died, a 
very worthy good mm. 1 gave it to Dr. Bofann, a leaned 
person and excellent teacher, who had been my son's 
tutor, and lived long in my family .** 

Let us hope after this that the memorial of this 
" very worthy good man " will be restored to its 
proper place. 

In reading your communications on this point 
of national interest, it would seem that no means 
short of a vote by Parliament, to appoint qualified 
persona in each parish to take copies of all ex- 
isting remains, could effect their rescue from 
destruction. Permit me, therefore, to sun^t, 
through your pages, to which Sir George Uorn- 
wail Lewis has contributed so many valuable 
papers, and who unites so many fine qualities of 
the statesman and the scholar, that, in his capacity 
of Secretary of State for the Home Department 
he would bring forward a measure in the House of 
Commons for the purpose stated. The measure I 
am recommending speaks for itself, and nothing, 
I am convinced, is wanting to secure it but the 
placing it before the gentlemen of England in 
Parliament assembled. Ikpatowi. 


(2»* S. xi. 471.; xii. 86.) 

Assuredly, your correspondent r. has been al- 
lowed, inadvertently no doubt, to overstep the 
boundaries of that pleasant neutral ground on 
which we, the contributors to ** N. & Q.," love 
to meet in harmony, for mutual instruction, and 
with mutual respect. In his reply to Mb. Batbs 
and Jatdeb, he has certainly crossed the borders, 
into the field of religious strife ; and has cast 
upon the Church, of which I have the honour of 
being a priest of forty years* standing, the hor- 
rible imputation of encouraging the sale of ob- 
scene and immoral books, and that for the sake of 
commercial profit. «• The book was got," says r., 

"rfiVtfcrtfy from the Pupal archives: the Pope*s 
bookseller (?) explaining to Mr. Freeborne that 
tbe price charged was high, because only com- 
paratively few copies remained. These copies were 
in the exclusive possession of the Papal OMihoriUes. 
.... the copies from which Mr. Freeborne was 
supplied for nae, consisted of tbe unsM stock still 
in the possession of the Papal authorities, ready 
to be disposed of at a good premium to all in- 

The Urotika Biblian, as well as the Systhne de 
la Nature, are both i>laoed on the Index Librorum 
Prohibitonan, as I will presently show by extract. 
This at once shows the '* attitude ** of the Church 
in regard to them ; and no doubt r. himself knows 
well the stringency of the laws of the Index. 
This " attitude,** to use your correspondent's word, 
is an imitation of the conduct of the primitive 
Christians, recorded in Acts xix. 19 ; — it is to bum 
such books. In fact, why were the copies in the 
*^ exclusive** possession of the Papal authorities, 
according to r.*s own account P Simply because 
all others had been either destroyed by virtue of 
the ecclesiastical law, or, if still in existence, were 
unlawfully concealed. A certain number of copies 
are reserved by 'the supreme ecclesiastical au- 
thority, for future reference, and for the use of 
those who might be employed in refuting or ex- 
posing the pernicious tendency of the condemned 
book. To such discreet persons the possession of 
prohibited works may by dispensation be allowed ; 
out ^ ammo refeUendi* And I have no doubt, 
that when Mr. Freeborne obtained the copy for 
r., it was with the understanding that it was 
purchased for a discreet person, who would uae it 
in the interest of morality and religion. It turns 
out, however, from r.*s own avowal, that it was 
procured, through consular influence, not so much 
m a spirit hostile to the book, as in a spirit hostile 
to the Church. If it be a fact that the title-page 
bears the '* Papal imprint,** it must be to indicate 
that the copy which bears it has been lawfully 
preserved, as being in the keeping of the Eccle- 
siastical authorities. 

In passing, I beg to point out r.*s inconsistency. 
He sa^s that '* the copies were in the exclusive 
possession of the Papal authorities,** and that " the 
price charged was high, because only oompara- 
tivelv few copies remained.** And yet he says, 
** What Mb. Batbs states from Peignot surprises 
me. I am convinced it is an inaccurate state- 
ment ; ** and again, " they were ready to be dis- 
posed of to ALL inquirers. What did Mb. Batbs 
state. from Peignot? — "That it was suppressed 
with such rigour that fourteen copies only escaped 
the hands ot the police.** 

I will now give the extracts from the Index : — 

«£rotika Biblion. Id est: Amaiona BibUwrvm. "Bkr 
Koipi 'EKdLnuMi'. Ahttnuwn excuiUL Demthn ^tion ^ 
Paris, chea le Jay,Libraire^ roe Neuve das PetitsiChamps^ 

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f r^ celle de Richelien, au grand Gorneille, n. 146 ; 1 792. 
Siire nomitu Awtoris, qui tamen in Prttfatione extremm 
Aactc edUioni pneaaitd^ fuisse tHeitur Mirabeaa, nempe 
Auetor impii ae iamducbtm protcripti Operis, eui Uiuhu, 
Systkne de U Natare, emeniUo Mirabean nomine editi 
(Deer. 2 Jolii, 1804)/' 

" SyBthne de U Nature^ on dee Lois da Monde Phjsiqae 
«t da Monde Moral, par Mirabaad (emaUUmm nomen). 
(Deer. 9 Nov. I770.y» 

I subjoin the 7th role of the '* Index,** as pub- 
lished by the Council of Trent : — 

** Libri qni res lasciraa sea obscenaa ex profeaao trac- 
tant, narrant, aot docent, com non solam fidei» sed et 
moram, qui bnjosmodi Jibrornm lectione facile cormmpi 
aolent, ratio habenda sit» omnioo prohibentar ; et qai eos 
habnefint, aeverh ah Episcopis paniantar. 

* Aotiqai rerb ab Ethnicis conKripti, propter sermonis 
elcgantiam et proprietatem, permittontar : nallft tamen 
ratione pneria pralegendi ernnt.'' 

I take for eranted that ErotUta Biblion is that 
very obscene book which r. describes ; not having 
mjself ever seen a copy. And if the '* Pope*8 
bookseller*" parted with a copy to any one with- 
out the understanding I have above alluded to, 
and without the requisite difpensation, all I can 
say is, that he betrayed his trust. I relv with 
confidence on the justice o£ the Editor for the 
insertion of this unimpassioned reply. May it be 
the last of the kind toat will ever be required in 
«1^. & Q.** JoHH Williams. 

Arno*8 Court 


In reply to your correspondent A. A. on the 
•ubject of the Kiver Isis, I would call his atten- 
tion to £udder*s History of Ohucesiershire^ folio, 
p. 47. He will there see as follows : — 

^ The laia. — This river has generally been considered 
aa the bead of the Tfaames, which, according to the car- 
rent opinion, had that name from the junction of the 
names of the two rivers, Thame and Isis, as their waters 
also join near Dorchester in Oxfordshire. But however 
plansible this etymology may seem, the learned aathor of 
the addiUons to Camden*s JSritamda has made it appear 
that this river, which Camden and others have called 
Isia and Dose, was anciently called Thames or Tems 
before it came near the Thame, and prodaces the follow- 
ing authorities : — 

«*In an ancient charter granted to Abbat Adfaelm, 
there is particular mention made of certain lands upon 
the east part of the river cuJum vocabuium Temi$ jmxta 
vadum qui appeUatmr Swmmerfordi and this ibrd is in 

^ The same thing appears firom several other charters 

Sranted to the Abbey of Malmsbury, as well as that of 
vesbam, and from the old deeds relating to Cricklade. 
And perhaps it may with safety be affirmed, that in any 
charter or authentic history, it does not ever occur under 
the name of Im; which indeed is not so much as heard 
of but among scholars, the common people, all along 
from tib« head of it to Oxford, calling it hy no other name 
but that of Thamn, So also th9 Baxon.Teme^ (from 

whence our Thames immediately comes) is a plain evi- 
dence that that people never dreamt of such conj auction, 
fiat farther : all our historians, who mention the incur- 
sions of Athelwold into Wiltshire, a.d. 905 *, or of Canute, 
A.D. 1016, tells us that they passed over the Thamu at 
Cricklade. As for the original of the word [Thames], it 
seems plainly to be British, because there are several 
rivers in several parts of England of almost the same 
name with it ; aa Tame in Staffordshirsb Teme in Here- 
fordshire, Tamer in Cornwall, ftc" 

It is not a little singular that the Thames and 
the Ouse are both mentioned in the same passage 
in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle^ as two distinct 
rivers : — 

'< A.D. 905. This year Ethelwald enticed the army in 
East Anglia to rebellion ; so that they over-ran all the 
land of Mercia until they came to Cricklade, where they 
forded the Thamet ; and having seized, either in Bradon 
or thereabout, all that they could lay their hands upon, 
they went homeward again. King Eklward went after as 
soon as he could gather his army, and over-ran all their 
land between the Foes and the (hm quite to the fena 

Florence of Worcester ffives a similar account. 
It may alao be remarked Uiat none of the writers 
of the history of England, previous to the Nor- 
man Conquest, as given in the MonumeTUa Histo" 
rica Briiannica^ ever mention the higher portion 
of the Thames above Oxford as the uis or Ouse, 
or under any other name than that of the Thames, 

William of Worcester, in his Itinerary (p. 277), 
speaking of the source of the Thames, says : — 

** Caput fontis flumlnis Tamisis ex parte villa Cissetyr 
(Cirencester, vulgo Ciceter) Incepit per 8 milliaria f de 
villa Totberye (Tetburv^ in comitatu Glouc, apud villam 
de Kenylle (t. e. Kemble in Wilts, upon the borders of 
which county it lies), apud Capellam vocatam Jewelle 
(Hallasey^ in dicta parochia et nunquam fons desicoatur 
maxima sicciute anuL" 

Times, however, have altered, and the latter 
part of the sentence is no longer applicable ; the 
source is now always dry, except m a very wet 
season; and what the changes in our climate 
have not quite accomplished, a steam force-pump 
has effected, which oraws the water for many 
miles round, and throws it into the Thames and 
Severn Canal. 

Even in John Leland*8 time, it was remarked 
by him — 

<< Wher as the very Hed of Isis ys, in a great Somer 
Drought apperith very litle or no Water, yet is the 
Stream servid with many Ofbpringes resorting to one 
Botom." — Heame's lAUutdt vol. v. pp. 6d, 64. 

Polydore Vergil says of the Thames : — 
« This most plesant fludde hath his hedd and originall 
risings at the village named Winchecombe |, and eche- 

* See Anglo-Saxon Chronich (Ingram, p. 126.) 

t It ia in fact about three miles ^m Cirencester, and 

eight trQia Telbury. „,. , 

t There is no river which rises nesr Wmchcombe; 

there is in the north a small brook which runs into the 

Severn, and another to the south, which flows into the 

Wiodrush, and sq into the Thames. ^ 

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[2^ a XIL J0LY 20. »81. 

where gatherinffe eocieate of hie flowe and itreMne, flrrt 
ronoeth in leoffih bie Oxforde, ftiid aAerwardt haying* 
full conree bie London, &c" 

This writer, though difiering fVom the former aa 
to the locality of the source, neveriheless confirmft 
the view that the river both above and below Ox« 
ford was called the Thames in bis day, 1533. 

Frequent discussions have arisen as to the tnie 
source of the Thames. The cabmen of Chelten- 
ham, most anxious for the custom of TisStors, are 
fkin to represent that the head of the Thames is 
to be found wi^in a fire miles' drive of that town, 
at a place called the " Seven Springs,** in the parish 
of Cubberley. There is no doubt, however, that 
this source is the head of a tributary stream, as 
lone known by the name of the Chum or Corin, 
as the Thames has been called the Thames, and 
giving its name to the town Corincaester, Chum* 
Chester, or Cirencester, through which it flows ; 
and whether it be a higher source than the 
Thames itself or not-, it is no more the head of the 
Thames than the Uler is the head of the Danube, 
though it may have a longer oourse. Leland ra« 
marlu of the Gloucestershire rivers : -^ 

''Chnrne at Oloestre, proprie Chnincestre, a hard by 
Cheatreton improprie pro Chnrntown. The principal 
Bedde of Chum rbeth at Coberle (Cabberlej near Chel- 
teoham), wber ia the Hed Hovae of Sir John Bridges. 
It ie a vii Myles from Qloceatre, and a five mylea or more 
fW>m Cirecestre by the which it rennetb, and thens a vi 
Mylea [anol infra Qreklad (Cricklade) milllari yt goeth 
into lais.'* 

Whatever identity there la between the Thames 
and Isis in the mina of the great antiauary, there 
was none between that river and the Churn, which 
is clearly treated as a mere tributary. 

It would be difficult to say precisely at what 
period the superior stream of the Thames took 
the name of Isis. We read in Leland*1i Itineraryy 
written about 1545, foL 64 :-- 

** Ids riseth a lit myles fVom CIrencestre not far from a 
village oawlled Kemble, within half a myle of the Fosae- 
way, betwixt Circecestre and Bath. Thena it runneth to 
Latinelttd (Latton) a 4 mylea of, and ao to Grekelad 
(Criclclade) about a Myle lower, sone after receyving 

So that evidently the Isis or Thames and the 
Churn are two distinct streams. 

In Leland*s Collectanea^ voL il., Hearae*s edi« 
tion, p 897» we find — 

** Ortna laidia flu: laa nasdtnr ikqQodamfbnticQlo jozta 
Tetbiriam prope Ciroeatriam." 

Thus it is clear that the same river which, by the 
Saxon Chronicle, by William of Worcester, by 
Polydore Vergil, and bv Florence of Worcester, is 
called Thames, is bv Leland called Isis or Isa. 
At the same time it is also clear from the evidence 
above cited that The Thames is historioally the 
most ancient appellation of the stream. 

With regard to the origin of the word Isis, I 
suspect that Isb or Isca, Ouse, Waes, Usk, Esk, 

Exe, Aze, Aix have all a common origin, meaning 
water*; and whether from the Latin AqiuB^ Aqnis^ 
or whether from some more remote language, which 
was the coAunon root of both the Latin and the 
British, I must leave to better etymologista than 
myself. Ueqne, we know, is water, and UsquC' 
bagh or Whiskey, is fire-water. In the celebrated 
Cygnea Cantio of Leland the poet traces our 
river — 

''Cygni noster amor, decnaque ttostrtun 

Qui rite Isidia inanlaa ameBnaa 

Felices colitis, genusque nostram, 

Augetis numero undecnnque claro, 

L«ti8 accipite auribus roeam nunc 

CauBsam, consilioque promo vete 

Qnodam numine ducor ut lecando 

Cursu fluminis infirmaa cadncl 

Bipaa laidis, et sinus Uquenteis 


The poetical description of this river is given in 
the Marriage of Tame and Isis^ generally attri- 
buted to Camden the antiquary, who flourished 
1586. In short, I have not been able to trace the 
name of Isis, as applicable to this river, further 
back than the sixteenth century t : although, if 
my suggestion of the etymology ot isis, Aix, and 
Ouse be correct, this name may have had as 
early or eariier an origin than that of Thames. It 
is singular, however, Uiat the country people, who 
dwell on the banks of the river, for the most part^ 
know nothing of it under the name of Isis, but it 
is invariably called the Thames up to its source in 
the parbh of Coates, Cotes, or Cotys, in Glouces- 
tershire (whence the Coteswoid Hills), which has 
been called Thames Head from time immemorial. 

Samuel Ltsons. 

If the mquirer from Poets* Comer will turn to 
Bo8worth*s A»'S, Dictionary for the word " Ox- 
ford,** he may read thus : — 

"A ford or passage over the river Isis or Ouse, giving 
name to Ousney, signlfyiiig the ialand made Or occasion^ 
by the river Ouse, encompassing the place.'* 

The derivation then is clearly this— Ouse, Ooze, 
Oasis, Isis, an island, or green spot surrounded by 
water. The Celts, or ancient Britons, formed the 
names of their rivers out of vowels, that the sound 
might be an echo to the sense ; and they named 
places adjoining by a compound or contraction of 
the name of the rivers, as Ouseley, Oswestry, &c. 
The Anglo-Saxons did the same. With them ea 
Wds the name fbr a river or streamj^and Eaton 
(Eton) was a town on the bank of the Thames, and 
the little islands (ealands) are to this day called by 
old people ay its or ayouis. And was not the sea 
the big water of our early ancestors f The Welsh 

* They were probably only different intonations of the 
same word according aa coming trom the mouths of 
northern, aouthem, eastern, or weatem inhabitants of the 

t Camden calls It by both namwijtsis and Ouse. 

uiyiLizeu by 

iw^BlB and Quae. 


s-i&xiLJvLy se.'oi.] 



watering lAnoes Aaw also ih€ same Toot in the 
eonstruction of such names as Abergele^ <ic.( and 
did not their Celtic ancestors bring this root 
Aber from the East, where it still prevails in the 
form of Ab or Anb^ implying flowing water? e. g, 
the Punjaub, the five-river district of Hindostan. 


(2«* S. viii. 500, &c.) 

A. A. has revived this subject (which he origi- 
nally started) by allusion to the unburied and ex- 
posed remains of Katharine, the widow of Henry 
V^ and ooncludes with the Query — *' Could this 
be the origin of the story of the unburied ambas- 
sadors?" (2-« S. xi. 617.) 

These two facts are totally distinct from each 
other. AfVer reading A. A/s original Query about 
the ambassadors and several answers, and a further 
Query from himself on the subject in voh viii., I 
wrote a long letter, stating that / had frequently 
seen the two unburied coffins of the so-called am- 
bassadors, and venturing my reasons for doubting 
the correctness of the ordinary story attached to 
them; and I was under the impression that my 
letter was inserted in your columns, and was there- 
fore the more surprised at A. A.*s new suggestion ; 
hut I cannot, on reference, find mj letter in <^ N. 
& Q.,*' and must, therefore, conclude that it waa 
not inserted. I will not now attempt to repeat 
its substance, my object being to explain that the 
long continuance of the exposed remains of Queen 
Katharine was an actual and distinct fact. A. A* 
refers to Dart, and therefore I need not qnot« 
him ; but in my former letter (with reference to 
the ambassadors), I referred to a book called 
London in Miniature, published in 1755, in which, 
after mentioning the tomb of Henrj V., I find aa 
follows : — 

"las coffin by him lie the remains of his Qneeo, Ka- 
tharine, daughter of Charles VL of Prance. This corpssi 
which is jet sound, would hare been till now entire, had 
not several pieces been carried away by the fioman Ca-* 
tholics, who believed her a saint To see this corpse joa 
pay threepence." 

I do not, however, in this caSe depend upoti 
books, for although I cannot, as in the case of the 
ambassadors, speak from my own actual observa- 
tion, I can from the testimony of my mother, from 
whom I suppose I inherited the interest I take 
in all that relates to Westminster Abbey, and 
who has frequently told me of the surprise and 
horror she felt, on her first visit to the abbeyi at 
these remains being shown to herself and the 
party she was with ; although her feeling arose 
entirely from the gross impropriety of the exhibi- 
tion, as, unless she had been so informed, she said, 
she should not have been aware that they were the 
remains of a human being. 

My mother first came to reside in London with 
her uncle and aunt about the year 1770, when 
she was about seventeen, and her first visit to the 
abbej was soon after her arrival. The story in 
the book I have quoted, as to the pieces of the 
body being carried away by the Roman Catholics 
because they believed her to be a saint, seems ab- 
surd, as I nowhere else heard of any such sanctity 
being attributed to this poor queen, althoughi 
after her marriage with her second husband Owen 
Tudor, she took refuge at and died in the Abbey 
of Bermondsey. Nevertheless, I can speak to the 
correctness of the fact in substance, inasmuch a« 
one of the gentlemen of the party on the occasion 
of my mother's visit, broke off a portion of the 
remams, and wrapping it in paper, made her a 
present of it which she was by no means disposed 
to accept, but thought it would be rude to refusck 
And this I believe was the general custom of the 
time. I suppose that the additional threepence 
fully entitled visitors, in their own opinion, to 
commit the depredation. 

It was not for some years afterwards that my 
mother paid her second visit to the enclosed part 
of the abbey, and then these remains no longer 
formed a part of the exhibition. During the in- 
terval a better sense of propriety no doubt had 
prevailed, and the dead nad been buried out of 
sight. M. H. 

In a Guide to Westminster Abbey, published ii^ 
1809, it is stated that in Henry yil.*s Chapel— 

** are two coflSns anbnried, which, according to the plates 
upon them, contain the bodies of a Spanish Ambassador 
and an Envoy from Savoy. The guides tell you they 
were arrested for debt." 

I have called the publication from whence I 
have made the above extract a ChUdej but the 
title is — 

*'An Historical Description 'of Westminster Abbey, its 
Monuments and Curiosities ; Designed chiefly as a Guide 
to Strangers. London, printed at the Minerva Press for 
Newman & Co., Leadenhall Street, 1809." (Small 8vo.) 

Is there any record in any of the Guide Books^ 
or elsewhere, of the inscriptions P My recollect 
tion of the tradition is that there were two Coffins, 
though I do not remember seeing them. But how 
could it be said they were arrested ? were not all 
ambassadors free from arrest ? 

Thb YoBK HlBAIiD. 

College of Arms. 

(2»*S.x.512.j xi.77.) 
Your correspondent T. E. S., in his interesting 
communication on this subject, says, " a list of the 
descendants of Sir Richard Poole, or Pole, and 
Margaret Plantagenet would be very acceptable to 
many persons, I think, and certftinly to me." 

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g4 NOTES AND QUERIES. 12- s. xii. Jult 20. 'ei. 

consequently the blood royal of England lejKiti- 
matelj flowing in their veins) are the following 
noble and gentle houses : — 

fear that it is altogether out of my power to give 
him these particulars fully, but among the aris- 
tocracy of this illustrious ancestry (and who have 

A Li*t o/some o/the DeicendaiUt of Sir Richard Pole, K.O^ and Margaret Plantagenet, 

Counteu of Salisbury and Warwick, in her own right, 

•* MflBcenas aUvis edite regibas."— Hcraet, 

Pbera of thb Urited Kingdom of Great Biutain akd Irbiamd. 


A.D. Dukes. Fi4 Me LineM of 

1676. Richmond and Lennox - - - - Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, and Gordoo. 

1675. Grafton -.->•-- Pole, Hastings, and Somerset. 
1682. Beaufort .----- Pole and Hastioffs. 

1694. Bedford ------ Pole, Hastiogs, Somerset, Piteroy, and Stanhope. 

169i. Devonshire, K.G. .... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Compton. 

1708. Rutland -.---- Pole, Hastings, and Somerset. ^ 

1678. •♦Bttccleagh and Queensbury, K.G. - S. Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, Gordon, Rossel, and 

1719. Manchester ..... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, and Gordon. 

1766. Newcastle, K.G. . - - - - Pole and Hastings. 

1766. *Leio8ter - - - - I. Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Fitzroy, and Stanhope. 


1790. •Abercom, K.G. .... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, Gordon, and Rnssel. 

1798. Hertford, K.G. ----- Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Fitzroy. 

1796. Bate ...... Pole, Hastings, and Rawdon. 

1812. Northampton ..... Pole, Hastings, and Somerset. 

1816. Hastings ..... Pole and Hastings. 


1529. Huntingdon .... - Pole. 

1628. SUraford and Warrington ... pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, Gordon, and Charteris. 

1690. Scarborough ..... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Manners, and Drummond. 

1688. Wemyss . . - . . S. Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, and Gordon. 

1741. Harrington ..... Pole, Hastings, and Fltsroy. 

•1684. Granaid ----- I. Pole, Hastings, and Rawdon. 

1771. Sefton ...... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Fitaroy, and Stanhope. 

1806. Orfbrd - - - - . - Pole, Hastings, Roy, and Rolls. 

1816. *St. Germans ..... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, Gordon, and Comwallis. 

1831. *Lichfield ..... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, Gordon, and RusseL 

1888. ^Durham ..... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, Gordon, and Rossel. 

1846. ^Ellesmere ..... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Greville. 


1766. Dungannon - - - - I. Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Fitzroy. - 

1826. *Gombermere . - - . - Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Greville. 


1264. *De Rot - - - - - - Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, Gordon, and Lennox. 

1821. Dacre ...... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Brown, and Roper. 

1448. Stourton . - - - - Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Howard. 

1608. Petre ...... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Howard. 

1616. Teynham ..... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Brown. 

1776. Foley ...--- Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Fitzroy, and Stanhope. 

1780. Soutbampton - - - - - Pole, Hastings, and Somerset 

1796. *Calthorpe ..... Pole, Hastings, and Somerset 

1806. Crewe ..-•..- Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Greville. 

1815. Gburchill ..... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Fitzroy. 

1821. Forester ...... Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Manners. 

1862. Raglan ^ ~ - - - - Pole and Hastings. 

1858. Chesham - ^ - - - • Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Compton. 

1665. Oglander of Hanwell . - - . Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Fitzroy. 

1686. Sinclair of Stevenston - - - S. Pole, Hastings, Somerset Howard, and Gordon. 

1721. *Codrington of Dodington ... Pole, Hastings, and Somerset 

1804. * Walsh of Ormath waits ... - Pole, Hastings, Somerset Howard, Gordon, Charteris, & G rey. 

* Not the representative of the fkmily himself, but the heir apparent through his noble mother. 
** Not the representative or heir appar^t of the House, but tne grandson. 

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▲a>. TregooireU of Anderaon House - 
*WeId of Lnl worth Castle 
*CaJcraft of Rempetone Hall 
BawBoa-DamerofCameHonae - 

Qkmtijbmxm or Qtjautt or thb Couirrr of Dobsbt. 

Vi& the lAmn of 

- Pole and Hastings. 

- Pole, Hastings, Somerset, Howard, and Stourton. 

- Pole, Hastings, SomefMt, Howard, Gordon, and Montagn. 

- Pole, Hastings, Somerset, FiUroj, and Seymour. 


Norman of Lincolnshire - - - - Pole, Hastiogs, Somerset, and Manners. 

Dnimmond of Cadlands Park, cow Hants > Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Manners. 


- ^jrftMtl886 Pole, Hastings, Somerset, and Howard. 


1684. Gordon - 

V»L Montagn 

- Eximetnvi Pole» Hastings, and Somerset 


[Constantino of Merley House 

Hastings of Woodlands House • 
Boy of Ilsington House - 
Jennings of Collyer's IVent 

- Pole, Hastings, and Kevllle. 

- Pole. 

* Pole and Hastings. 

- Pole, Hastings, Neville^ and Constantine. 

The authorities I have consulted on the point 
have been Egerton, Brydges, Collins, Barke, De- 
brett, Lodge, Coker, and Hutchins. Permit me 
to draw the attention of your readers particularly 
to Hutchins's Dorset^ first edition, 1774, vol. 1. 
pp. 52, 487, and vol. ii. pp. 63, 64, 65, 109; 110, 
111, 481, 482, 483. I myself very much wish to 
have a perfect enumeration of the posterity of Sir 
Eichard Pole and the Countess of Salisbury. I 
am preparing a work for the press, in which I am 
endeayonring to trace the descent of the peers of 
England and of the aristocracy of the county of 
Dorset legitimately from the Anglican sovereigns, 
and a correct answer to T. £. S.'s query would, 
of course, rery much assist me in my researches* 
With regard to the peerage, I have already suc- 
ceeded iff about two hundred and thirty cases, 
forming a majority of the present House of Lords; 
and with respect to the chivalry of this province, 
I have the utmost gratification in stating that 
about thirty extant umilies of figure and consi« 
deration in the shire are of this high- bom lineage. 
About fifty extinct or non-resident races are like* 
wise of the same blood. Ko correspondent of "N* 
& Q.** has ever, as far as I am aware, inserted a 
Query on the subject in ^rour columns, or I should 
bare had much pleasure in forwarding to you my 
list. Thomas Pabb Hjbhsinq. 

i>igh Honse^ Wimborne.^ 


(2-* S. xi. 516.) 

Many thanks to your kind correspondent, Ma. 

Tatlob, for his reply to my Queries ; but with 

great submission I dissent firom hb opinion, that the 

name Hinxman is a much nearer approach than 
inj own to that of the Bishop of London in 1663 1 
Now it is a very significant fact, that the said 
metropolitan primate b actually adverted to as 
" Dr. HUchman** in existing papers in the Brituh 
Museum I A more common variety, however, is 
certainly Hinchman. Still, between the latter 
and the former, there is but a difference of one 
letter merely ; and, moreover, between Hinchman 
and Henchman, the orthographic discrepancy is 
no greater ; proving, as I humbly submit — with 
other unequivocal circumstances— an irrefraga- 
ble identity of ancestry. My family history may 
be almost uninterruptedly traced through John 
and William Hitchman, firom the counties of 
Gloucester and Oxford, to Northampton ; where, 
as I apprehend, it ultimately merges in the pedi- 
gree or Humphrey Henchman, anno 1592 ; and 
^* William Henchman, M.A., parson of Barton," 
as quaintly described by Gunton, Hist, Peter' 
borowh, p. 91. Among the rectors of Cottesbrook, 
also (vol. i. p. 556.) occurs '* Rich. Henchman, or 
Hinchman, Cl.comp. pro. Primit, 17Maii, 1614** 
(Ex auc. MS, Due de Chandoi), Both this gen- 
tleman and William, prebendary of Peterborough, 
it is affirmed, were close kinsmen of ** Humfredus 
Henchman (the ** pious Prelate who did after- 
wards so well manage the escape of His Majesty 
K, Ch. II., afler the battle of Worcester"), Cler. 
S. T. B. ad rect S. Petri in Rushton, ad pres. 
Will. Cockaine mil. et aldermanni Lond., 4 Maii, 
1624, et eodem die ad rect. Omn. Sanctorum in 
Rushton, ad pres. ejusdem, Will. Cockaine mil. — 
Ri^. Dove. Ep. Petrihr The following b a correct 
synopsis, so far as I am aware, of " Dr. Hitch- 
man's*' preferments :-^ Precentor of Sarum, 1622 ; 
Rector of St. Peter and All Saints, Rushton, co. 

* Not the representative of the fiunily himsel/, but the heir apparent through his noble mother. ^ ^ 

uiyiLizeu uy xjVJvJVt Iv^ 




North Hants (ag above), 1624; Prebendary of 
S. Grantham, 1628 ; Prebendary of Teynton Re- 

gis cum Yalmeton, 1638 ; Prebendary of Yatea- 
ary, 1640; Bp. Sarum, 1660; Bp. London. 1668. 
I do not for a moment oontrovert the origin of 
Hinxman qiuiad the name, as, no doubt, it ii lika 
my own-^a corruption of Henchman also; be- 
cause, after all, Crosborovgh was the original 
family name ; and a Crosborough it waa who, at 
the dissolution of the monasteries, acquired some 
of the Northamptonshire estates. In very trutbi 
in old books {temp, Edward lY.) the king*8 
pages are not unfrequently spoken of as "• Henx* 
men** : albeit, they might never have chased the 
buffalo, and consequently were not, in the lan- 
guage of the Seventh Henry, " veritahU " Hench- 
men — whose crest it has since been I At all 
events, the names of Henchman, Hinchmwit M>d 
Hitchman, have been uniformly confounded to* 

Sther; not only in documents of the British 
useum, but by Wood, Granger, Nichols, Mal- 
colm, Richardson, Faulkner, in short, mapv his- 
torians ; and scarcely less by the heralds, Burke, 
Edmonatone, Robson, Gwlllim, and others! At 
the same time, a man is not to be valued alone 
for his ancestry, his carriage, or his cabriolet — 
for the cut of his ooat^ or the exquisite propriety 
of his armorial beanngs — these trifles, tboufi^h 
'Might as air," are all good in their way; but ^r 
his resolute purpose ofabstaininff from that which 
is wrong, and doing th%t which is right ^-eyer 
remembering that a true gentleman, in the path 
of duty, is always a true henchmem. 

WiixiAM HiTcmiAir, F.L.S. 

Lbttbb« n THIS Abms qf Bsnktsht : Maiu- 
iiBB*B CoMPAsa QuBBiBS (2"^ S. xii. 300 '-It is 
ourious to sete how the wia-reading of a single 
word will utterly confuse the meaning of the sim* 
pleat matter. Had your correspondent written 
**oommencing at the south- «a«/, instead of the 
aouth-ineat, it would have been seen at once the 
letters S. O. L., &c., are the initiala of the different 
points of the Italian compass. Thus 8. is Sdrocco^ 
the hot wind from Africa, the south-east; O. 
oitro (Auater), the south ; L, Ubeccia, the wind 
from Libya, the south-west ; P. panente, the set* 
ting sun, or west ; M. macttraU^ the violent, or 
masterful wind, the north-west ; T. (rafi9oafafia,the 
wind from beyond the mountains, the north wind; 
G. grecOf the wind from Greece, or north-east 
The « is probably L., Uvante, the wind from the 
rising of the sun, or east wind. The terms gr$oo 
and trumoviana prove the origin of the names of the 
points of the compass to be South ItHlian, other- 
wise they would be inapplicable geographically. 
There are two points as to the mariner's compass 
that are a puzzle. How is it the French use the 
words on the Qompasa-omrd, nm^ $ud^ ut, <meiit 

which are clearly English? and how is it the 
English mark the north point with a fleur-de-lys, 
which is clearly French P A- A. 

PoeU* Comer. 

The Bak of Michabi Avgblo (2^ S. xi. 469.) 
— The bar, or the transome, or the lintel, is the 
namo given to that ridge of bone which forms the 
baae of the forehead, and along which th^ eye- 
brows are traoed. This FrontM Bar, or straight 
full line of bone, is, when well developed, a graphic 
signal of excellence in the human face ; as it was 
in that of Buonarroti, "The Arch-angePs Twin!** 
Among the signs of facial augury, there is none 
more accurate than the crux Ada^ the T cross of 
Adam, when it stands midway in the ooantenane*, 

Srominent and true* This feature is formed by 
bie ** bar of Id ichael Angelo," as the upper line 
or transome of the cross; and a clear, hold, 
straight, nasal ridge, as the stock. 

Survey the sea of faoea in any gather^ multi- 
tude of men : or search them one by one, as they 
8t«nd upon tha wall in the Gallanes of Art, in 
their pictured lineament of life» and you will find 
the crux Ada, more or less dev^oped, as the uiual 
badge of victory in the battlea of the mind. 


Wabwigk abd S^bkcbk FAMiuTBa (^ 9. xii. 
19.) — The bear and ragged staff was the badge 
of the Earla of Warwick. Its origin is fully da* . 
Uiled in the Rous Roll. 

By the way, ** N. ft Q.** long since announced 
this Roll as on the eve of publication. It waa 
printed cempUtB with all its illustrations, by the 
late Mr. Pickering. What is the mystery that 
withholds it fh>m publication f We have seen it, 
and had much to ao with it, and are well juatiied 
in asking this question. 

Richdfd Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick; married 
Isabel Despencer (widow- of his cousin, Rlohard 
Beauchamp, Earl of Worcester.) She was a 
great heiress, daughter of Thomas Lord 8peneer, 
Earl of Gloucester, and sister and heir of Kiohard 
Lord Spencer. She was direct ancestress of the 
present Earl of Abergavenny and the Baroness le 
Despencer (Viscountess Falmouth), which last 
represents her as baroness in her own right. By 
her second husband, the Earl of Warwick, this 
lady was mother of Anne, wife of Richard Nevill| 
the king-maker. Earl of Warwick, in her right, 
after the death of her son and his issue. This 
was the union of Warwick and Spencer. Otnu. 

Hammond thb Pobt (2»* S. xii. 33, 84.) — 
Some observations are made with reference to 
Susan Walpole; and in order to prevent any 
doubt, I have to inform your correspondent that 
Anthony Hamond of South Wootton, co. Nor* 
folk, married Suaan, aister of Robert Walpole, 
Earl of Orford, she being ao described on his slab 
in Sputh Wootton Church. He died on 7 Feb. 

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1743, in his 59tfa jear, und was buried to Soath 
Wootton Church, where there is a slab to his 
memorj, as also of Susan, hi^ widow, who died 
9 Jan. 1763, in her 76th year. 

This ftoilvis now represented by Mr. Anthony 
Hamond, of Westacre, High House, co. Norfolk ; 
and it will be better here to observe that this 
family have invariably spelled their names Hamond 
horn 1648 and 1084 to Iha present time. 

I doubt their connexion with the Hammonds of 

There is an account of the Walpole family 
under *' Houghton " in Blomefield's Norfolk, vol. 
yii. pp. 106— 108, and a Pedigree to face p. 109, 
where Susan, sister of Lord Orfbrd, appears as 
the wife of Anthony Hammond^ Esq., of Wooton, 
but the way of spelling is certainly a mistake. 

tK N. Ghadwick, 

King's Lynn. 

BAaiLisM (a»« S. 3^1506.)— The basilisk, or 
regttlu$ of PliQT, must be ranked, with other myths 
ofaQoieBt aoology, as a portion of tmnoliira/ hit- 
toFjr. In the Pmay Cyekipmdia fart. Cookatbiob) 
will be found what ancients and modems have to 
sapr on this animal, which Liddell and Scott identify 
with the cobra di capello. The hood of the latter, 
or rather the horns of the cerantes^ may have given 
origin to the supposed crown of the basilisk. Dr. 
Mayer has demonstrated the existence of unde- 
yeloped lep^s and feet In the boa {Penny Cyclop, 
v. 22.). The name "basilisk" is now appropri- 
ated, on the authority of Daudin, to a genus of 
Saurian reptiles, chiefly found in America. There 
was ^und of fear amongst the naturalists at Ox- 
ford, in 1679, when the opinion prevailed that the 
basilisk could kill by a look. "* The sealed glass 
case** must have had some opening to adnut of 
food. The Oxford story appears to be that of an 
Italian ciarlatano^ described in Mac Farlane*s 
Popular Chutoms in Italy , pp. 102-5. In Hebrew 
the niun9 of this reptile it ^)VOV, *«c^Apai, which 
Boohart and Soholtens exphuna by the Arabia 
^fi^ (safka), Jlatu adtusit^ and mju^ (safiia) tona 

sthilanU feriii* . " Horn«snakes,** says Lawson, 
" hisi exactly like a goote*' (F#wy Cyclop. xx?i. 
353.) ^ Z^pkoni occurs only five times, where tb9 
authorised version renders it "cockatrice,** ex-* 
cept only in Frov. xxiii. 32., where it is trans- 
lated "adder." The word eockatrioe should be 
avoided, as it designates fio known anipial ; and, 

* Tb« dtrivatipn of this word from mnfaaUtm, according 
to Michatlis, qaoted by Eiebhom and Qesenios, i« a mis- 
take, there being no such word in Arabic Micbaells 

foand'the word ^^« aotteitoa, which he mistook ibr 

ijfj^% toMfamton; a single dot over one letter making all 
tlie diiliiffmca. 

in its derivation, refers to an absurd zoological 
njyth. T. J. BucKTON. 


Tt8U»w TioEif (a«* 6* xi. 487.) — In reply to 
J. fiPBBi), D., I beg to say tbat I have before me 
a ticket that was graqted July 1, 1601, " Wm. 
Staines, Mayor.** 

It also has the following note : t— 

** Inrolled parsnant to the Statnte In snch case made 
and provided the 9th day of April, 1806. 

At the back of this is the transfer to E. J. of 
Hatton Garden, April 8, 1806, for the sum (f ^ 
pounds^ by which he was " excused from serving 
the office of constable of the Liberty of SafiVon 

Whether these tickets are to be had in the pre- 
sent day by way of transfer I have not yet Rsccr« 
tained. I am inforpned they can be sold but nnee. 

W. J. H. 

Quotation Wawtbd (2»* S. x. 494 ; xi. 234 ; 
xli. 37.) — La Henriade was published in 1726; 
the first performance of CakUina was in 1748 t so 
Voltaire did not borrow from Crebillon. The 
tiiought is in Luean — 

« Rheni mibi Csssar in nndis 
Dox erat, htc soclos ; llicioas qaos inquf nat nquat.'* 

FMarsalia, v. 989. 

H. B. 0. 
U. U. anb. 

IFaib Rosamond (2»»* S, xii. 14, &c.)— In JETin/* 
to Managert and PlajftcrighU^ London, 1761, 
among instances of dying on the stage, the fol- 
lowing lines are auoted and feebly ridiculed. 
They are not gooo, hut as the author seems to 
have taken an unusual yiew of Rosamond^s cha- 
racter, I shall be obliged by a reference to the 
play from which they are taken : — > 

** The fraffilo sommit of my regal greatness 
Crambles beneath my tottering feet. My eyes 
Grow dim to all the pomp which glares aronad me, 
Tet clearly see my injured hotband'a ghost, 
jewing, with lurid torch, tbe way to death. 
My limbs grow cold ; my heart scarce b^ats j fate I 
T own thy vengeance just," — Death ofRommond, 

J. A. A. 

Adam with a Bbabp (3*^ S. xi. 88.)— There 
is surely no scarcity of instances in which Adam 
is represented with a beard* On turning over 
the first few old books which come to my, hand, 
and contain representations of our first parent?, 
I find more examples of the bearded than of the 
shaven ancestor. The Nuremberg Chronicle giv^ 
Adam a very bare Aice in the first three illustra* 
tions, but in the fourth, in which he heade the 
genealogical tree (the stem proceeding from his 
breast) he has the aspect of a yery old man, bald, 
and with a splendid beard. 

In a book entitled Catalogus Annorum, &c., fol 

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Berne, 1540, the Deity is represented as handing 
down to Adam, who is clad in skins, and armed 
with a lar^e club, the sceptre of dominion. In 
this engcaving Adam is crowned with laurel, and 
has a very decided beard. In the English Bible, 
printed bjr Day and Seres, 1649, the chin of our 
ancestor, though not' profusely adorned, has very 
nnmistakeable marks of roughness. A Tolume of 
Greiler Ton Keisersberg's Sermons^ foL 1518, has a 
spirited wood-cut title, in which Adam, with his 
beard and dub, are a^ain clearly shown; and 
lastly the woodcut which heads the Genealogies 
recorded in the Sacred Scriptures^ prefixed to the 
1613 fand I presume to the 1611) folio edition of 
the Authorised Version of the Bible, represents 
him with a well-defined and comely moustache. 
There is no doubt that the engravers followed 
the painters of their own age pretty closely in 
this as weU as other oonyentional particulars. 

J. £liot Hodgxin. 
W«st Derby. 

EuauBST Nayt Lists, aud Records of 
Sailors (2^ S. xii. ^8.) — The first number of 
Steele's printed Navy List was published in 1771, 
and was succeeded by the Navy List in its present 
form in 1814. 

For Lists of Commissioned Officers from 1660 
to 1688, vide the Pepysian Library at Cambridge ; 
also the Harleian MSS., Nos. 366, 6003, 6277, 
6760, 6843, 7464, 7472, 7504, and the Cotton. 
MS. 374, from An. 1660 to about 1700. In the 
Bodleian Library are Naval Lists to the end of 
the seventeenth century, and some naval accounts 
commencing 1561. 

The date of the earliest Lists at the Navy 
Office are presumed about the year 1700. it 
may be interesting to state Uie fact that the 
number of commissioned officers in the year 1700 
were but 1,000, and in 1820 they amounted to 
about 10,000. A Noteb. 


S. X. 389.) — One of these may be seen at Mr. 
Moreau*s (bookseller), 7, Alfred Terrace, Queen's 
Road, W. It is a half-length, size of life, in a 
morning dress, the hair frizzed and powdered, 
in a white beaver hat. The owner is willing to 
part with it, if a fit price should be offered. 


Geotius (2"« S. xii. 29.)— E. T. C. wiU find a 
copious account of Grotius s gradual sliding over 
towards Romanism in his Life by Burigny, B. vi. 
ss. 16—23; and in Hallam's Lit. of Europe, pt 
iii. c 2, ss. 12—17, and notes, voL li. p. 406, 5th 
ed. Burigny, in the 24th section of his sixth 
book, considers at some length the charge of 

Both these writers, the former of whom, I be- 
lieve, was a Roman CaUi(dic, a^p^e that at the time 
of Grotias*s deathi his transition to Romanism 

was near^ complete ; and that in all probability, 
he would have openly declared himself a Ro- 
manist, had he lived a little longer. 

The religious opinions of this great man varied 
so much at different periods of his life, that 
Menage at his death wrote the following epigram 
about nim : — 

" Smyrna, Rhodes, Colophon, Satamis, Argos, Athena, 
Siderei oertant vatis de patri& Homeri : 
Qrotiads certant de religiooe Socinns, 
Arrius, Armimiis, Calvinos, Boma, Lntherus.*' 

Burigny, B. vi. a. 22. 

Davip Gam. 

PoBsoir AKD Adam Claekb (2"* S. xii. 6.)— If 
any further proof be wanting, as to who was the 
right author of the Porson Narrative, your readers 
can at once have it in the following transcript of 
the title-page : — 

« A Narrative of the laat Illness and Death of Richard 
Porson, AM., Professor of Greek in the University of 
Cambridge, formerly Fellow of Trinity College, and Prin- 
cipal Librarian of the London InsUtntion, with a Fac- 
simile of an Ancient Greek Inscription, which was the 
chief Snbject of his last Literary Converaation. By Adam 
Clarke, LL.D., Principal Librarian of the Sarrey Institu- 
tion. London, 1808.'^ 8vo. 

The copies struck off were, I believe, not over 
numerous. Person's ener^ of research in rela- 
tion to the period of the mscription, referred to 
in Dr. Adam Clarke*8 Narrative, forms an anec- 
dote especially worth recording. 

There is another tract relating to Porson, but 
little known, entitled — 

** A Short Account of the late Mr. Richard Porson, 
M.A« Greek ProfBesor of Trinity College, Cambridge; 
with some Particulars relative to his extraordinary 
Talents. By An Admirer of a Great Genius." 8vo. 
London, 1808. 

The author of this tract was the Bev. Stephen 
Weston, B.D. £. 

GuiDOTT AMb Bebttbll (2'^ S. xu 620.) -* I 
some time since purchased a book edited by Dr. 
Guidott of Bath, m 1676, entitled A Discourse on 
Bath and its Waters, aiso Bristol and CasUe Cary, 
with a Century qf Observations ; or the Lives and 
Characters of thePhysicians there Jrom 1598 to 1676, 
with a map of ancient Bath, and engravings of an- 
cient Roman coins found there. A very scarce and 
curious old book, which I have advertised for sale, 
with forty etchings of £. Cumberland on stone, to 
imitate pencil drawings: only 100 copies printed. 
And an Itidian book, Forestiere iUuminato, with 
plates of everything worth seeing in Venice and 
the Islands, published in Venice, a.d. 1740. Also 
a very curious book edited by an old master of 
the Exeter Grammar School in 1711, in *^Isoa 
Dunmoniorum,** being Lihri tree Pomponii MeUe 
de Orbis Situ, with twenty- seven maps of the Old 
World ; each one presented by a worthy of Devon 
or Exeter, and having his name and family arma 

uigitized by 


t-0 & xn. juLT 20. •eL] 



engraved on it, printed **in Tjpis Farleanis.** 
The whol^ will be sold by Hr. Searle, bookbinder, 
Chudleigb, Devon. W. Colltks. 

Chodleiffb, N«irtOD, Devon, or 
Ford Hooae, Drewstereotoo. 

Gablakd Famii^t (2»* S. xl 470.) — If your 
correspondent J. Fouvtaim has not seen the fol- 
lowing notice of a family, bearing the name of 
Garland, in Hanter*8 South Yorkshire^ it may in- 
terest him. It is in Hunter*8 account of Todwick 
(vol. ii. p. 159), a small village adjoining Riveton 
Vark, the old seat of the family of the Duke of 

*■ John GsrlaDd cf Todwick, gent, married Ceth^rine, 
daughter of Ralph Hatfield, of Laoghton-en-le-Morthen. 
gent ; and was father of John Garland, of Todwick, Eaq., 
who died 9th Jan. 1691, aged fifty-one. By hfs first wife 
Mary, danghter of George Bradsbaw, of Bradshaw, Esq., 
be had a daoghter Elizabeth, who died in 1688, ased five. 
By his second wife Elizabeth, daughter of Wm. Clayton, 
of Whit well, CO. Derby, gent., he bad another Elizabeth, 
his sole sarriving daughter and heir. 

** The arms of this family, three pales and a chief parti 
per pale, in the first a cbaplet. In the second a demi-lion 
rampant, appear in the church, and also on some old 
furniture at tbe Hall. They are t^e same with those on 
the Seal of Augustine Garland, affixed to tbe warrant 
for the execution of King Charles I." 

Hunter also remarks, that the family did not 
appear at any of tbe Visitations. J. H. C. 

The Ibish GiAirrs (2»^ S. xi. 369, 396.)-"There 
18 (or was a short time since) a colossal skeleton 
of a man named 0*Brien in the Anatomical Mu- 
seum at Trinity College, Dublin. If I recollect 
rightly, it measured 8 feet 4^ inches in length ; 
and, but for a curvature in the spine, would nave 
stood much higher. He also is reported to have 
had a horror of anatomists ; and when dying, is 
said to have entered a boat, requesting that his 
body might be thrown overboard. There are 
evidently more skeletons of 0*Brien than that at 
Clifton. The stories told of all are much alike. 
The man I speak of is said to have died mt 
29, of Phthins pulnumaUs. 

T. W. Bblchsb, M.D. 


FouNDSK*8 Day, Aug. 16th. (^ S. xi. 468.)— 
In reply to your correspondent B. H. C, August 
] 5th IS, or I believe that I may rather say was, the 
Founder's Day at Queen*s College, Oxford. Pro- 
bably there was some complimentary payment 
made to ibe preacher ; and if so, his name might 
be ascertained from the College accounts. W. 

Mbs. Cbadock (2** S. xi. 468.)— Since I sent 
you my Query, I have ascertained that the author 
of Braokitma has fallen into a mistake regarding 
Mrs. Cradock. Col. Thomas Newburgh, generallv 
known in his day as ^ Tom Newburgh,** married, 
not a Miss Blacker, but Miss Martha Cary, 
younger sister of Mrs. Blacker ctf Carrickblacker, 

in the county of Armagh, and co- heiress of their 
brother, the Right Hon. Edward Cary of Dun- 
given Castle, MP. for the county of Londonderry, 
who had married, in the year 1743, Lady Jane 
Beresford, daughter of the Earl of Tyrone ; but 
died without issue. ^See Burke*s History of the 
Landed Gentry^ vol. li. p. 51.) Col. Newbui^ 
appeared in print as the author of a volume of 
poems. His widow, as stated in Brookiccna^ mar- 
ried Dean Cradock, whose father was brother of 
the Archbishop of Dublin ; and their portruts 
are preserved in the collection of the present pro- 
prietor of Carrickblacker. Abhba. 

Dam Family (2"* S. xi. 108.) ^Test«rday I 
saw a copy of your valuable paper, Feb. 9, 1861, 
in which J. D. inquires about deeds relating to 
the Dale familv of Staindrop, in co. Durham. I 
wish J. D. to be informed that the above deeds 
are in my possession, as also a marriage settle- 
ment temp, Carolus I. I purcJiased them, with a 
miscellaneous lot, at the sale of the late Sir C. 
Sharp's books about 1847 or 1 848, at Newcastle-on- 
Tyne. If J. D. can show me that the above deeds 
are of consequence to him, they are at his service. 
He can write to Mrs. Crookes, 10, St. Vincent 
Street, Sunderland, England, or to the address 
below ; but he must lose no time, as my regi- 
ment is ordered South. 

St. Johk CaooKBs, 
Lieutenant 36th Reg., U. S. A. 
207, Henry Street, Brooklyn, Long Island, 
United SUtes, America, 24th June, 1861. 

Lamiha (2**^ S. zii. 10) is a thin piece or plate 
of metal ; hence applied to pictures on copper : 
they are literally paintings on laminss. IMbmo. 

Clbahiho old Glass (2*^ S. xii. 9.)-— The best 
way of removing white-wash from old glass, would 
be to soak it in a solution of hvdrochloric acid in 
water : say two ounces of acid to every pint of 
water, lliis will remove all the carbonate of 
lime, of which ordinary white-wash consists. If, 
however, any sulphate of lime exists on the glass, 
and which is not improbable under some circum- 
stances in which the glass may have been placed, 
then the minute hard specks can. only be removed 
by steeping in lic|uor ammonia. The action of 
either of the chemicals will be accelerated by the 
application of a camers-hair brush. - 

PiBssB, Sbptimds. 



The Himibook of Baman Nutnumatic$. By Frederick 

W. Madden, of the Brituh Mtueum, Hon. Sec. of the 

Numiematie Society. (J. K. Smitb.) 
In tbls little work, wbicb is intended to serve as an 

Introdaction to tbe Stndy of Boman Nnmiamatios, and 

Digitized by 




C2»^ a HL July 20. "SL 

to enable the collector of Romtn coins to claasifV them 
In Accordance with the latest diacoveriea, the List of the 
Imperial Series includes all the new attributions that 
have been discovered ud to the present time, and a 
second List of the Famify Series, which is wholly new, 
and will be found of great service to the student of this 
interesting branch. The work^ therefore, supplies in 
small compass, and at small cost, information only to be 
found elsewhere in large and expensive books; and Mr. 
Madden may claim, tberefbre, the thanks of A large 
borty of collectors. It is pleasant to find another fYtdtridk 
Muddtn labouring succsMfally in the field of Afobttology, 
and we gladly bid him Qod speed ; and wish be may at- 
tain as high a reputation as a numismatist as bis father 
has Won for himself by the extent of his palieographical 

In-door Planti, and Horn to grow fAem, fhr the Drawing' 
room^ Balcony^ and Qrmnhoum ; containing clear Inetme^ 
tions by whleh Ladies may obtain^ at email Expenae, a 
eonetiint Supply of Flowere, By E* A. Maling. (Smith, 
Elder. & Co.) 

If there be truth as well as beauty In the saying, that 
children bring sunshine into a house, the sAme may be 
said with nearly equal truth of flowers: and he who can 
teach us how at all timea, and in all saasons, to graoe our 
d welliog-places with these ** things of beauty," deserves 
in an especial manner the thanks of the Londoners. Mr. 
Maling claims to have done this in the little volume be- 
fbre us; and having examined it with great attention, 
we think he is quite justified in doing so -^ for we believe 
that, within the oompass of some 160 pages, BCr. Maling 
not only proves at how small an expenditure either of 
time or money ladies may grow a constant succession of 
flowers, whose sweetness and brightness are never more 
delightful than in a crowded city — but bv his minute 
and clear description of everything needful for the care 
of plants, their selection, and their arrangement and pre- 
servation in perfect health and beauty. Shows not only 
what may be done, but how to doit Every lady irho 
loves flowers, and would fain grow them— and what lady 
does not?— should follow Mr. Maling's directions, and re* 
ward him with the first handsome bouquet she can gather 
fhnn her In-door Garden. 

Something Jbr Sterybody, and a Oarlandfbr the Tear, 
A Book for Hbute and Home, By John Timbs. (Lock- 
wood & On.) 

Foil of odd, qtiftlbt, ont-of^lbe^way bits of Information 
npon all Imaginable subjects, this amnsidg little volame 
would serve to establish for Mr. Timbs a claim to the 
merit which Donne in his Funeral Sermon on the Countess 
of Pembroke, Dorset, and Montgomery ascribed to that 
extraordinary woman, namely, that ** she knew well how 
to discourse of all things, flrom predestination down to 
slea silk." Mr.vTimbs here disooorses pleasantly upon 
all imaginable subjects of domestio, rural, metropolitan, 
and social life; interesting noolLS of English locialities: 
time-honoored customs, and old world observances, and 
we need hardly add, discourses well and pleasantJy on 

The Constable of the Tower, An Historical Bomanoe, 
By William Harrison Ainsworth* Hlustraied by John 
Gilbert In 8 Vols. (Chapman & Hall.) 

This narrative of a very important period of our his- 
tory, which Mr. Ainsworth hss, with his wonted skill, 
knowledge of the times, and perfect readiness in weaving 
in the uecessary accessories of costume, manners, &o^ 
worked up into an historical Romance Of great Interest, 
Is here pnblished in a complete form, aft«r having ftar« 
nished for soma time the chief feature of The New 

Uttonthh Maaaxtne: and we cannot doubt that the favonr 
with which it has been received by the readers of It as 
It appeared periodically, will be equalled bv that which 
it is destined to receive from those who nave the Ad- 
vantage of perusing it in its new form. 

The mention of this fiction by Mr. Ainsworth reminds 
us that the story of Great Expectations, with which Mr. 
Dickens has now for some months been delighting the 
readers of Alt the Tear Round, Is fast drawing to a close. 
Oreat Expectations is unquestionably oUS of Mr. Dickens's 
most successful works. The care bestowed upon the con- 
struction of the story, the wonderful orighialitv of cha- 
racter, the truthful Dutch painting-like descrfptions of 
scener}', and the mingled pathos and humour to be found 
in it, are all of Mr. Dickens's best and earliest style, ahd 
give us promine, which we trust In due time to see re- 
alited, of many more dellghtAil works from this truly 
Enfflish pen. If anyihiog more touching than the death 
of Magwitch was ever writUn, we should be obliged to 
any reader to point it out to tis. 

Mr. Thorpe, as we learn from The Athemeum, announces 
as nearly ready for the press a volume which will be of 
considerable interest to those whose studies travel back 
to the Anglo-Saxon period of our institutions. It will 
comprise all the charters of that period known to be 
extant, exclusive of the simple grants of land ; that is, 
every charter of strictly historic Interest, viz., the Wills 
of royal and noble {Arsons, prelates, and others; Mis- 
cellaneous Charters; Manumissions of Serfe. The work 
will contain many charters not Included in Kemble's 
Oodex Dtplomatieue ; the text will be formed Arom a col- 
lation of the original manuscripts, and now first accom- 
panied by a translation of the Saxon. The grants of 
land are intended for pabliration hereafter. Perhaps 
some of oar readers can aid this important object 



Ptftieiilart of Price, ao. of the followinjr Booki to be lent direct to 
Ihe centlsmen bjr whom they si« te4iilted,aad whose bsbm* sad ad- 
drew M arc gtrea for that purpoie: ~- 

J. M. K KM BUI on ma acpiMuo AwnQuirr or Chvbcb Bato. Bids- 
Way, ISM. 

Waatsd lir the Mw. W, H. Jotmt Bmdfird-oa-ATOa* 

UtLH Ann Hnm mow to Taotmet Ltra Atto Tmtnmrt, 18SS. 

Jura iM PAaia. ISB. 
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Psran doaLsacu^ ISM. 
Tai^s or laua Lira. 1SS4. 

inmted by John Steiuon, 7S, Lambs* Conduit Street. 

BaTAirr*»*Ajnriai(r MriwotM*. Vol*. L and IL, L p. 1S07. 
Qoaum't PaaaAoa. VoL ni. ISIt, 
gMMLBT't OxaPlati. Vols. IIL, iV., and VIH. J8«k 
MAeooixoea*! Wan«air HiaarAitog or SoonAjfo. Y^LL liM. 
Oairrui'i BirAu— PAaMoa LiasAAT. 

Wanted by WUUt 4- ^ocAentu, ia6.8tWMt. 

^otitti ta €axtt4pan\itnti. 

. D. L. 8. (Ediobnrgh) tntljbfd some nott$ <m Sympatbstic flosUfl m 
**ir. k (^," ind 8. Iz. 19. ;t, 10. 

?*f A'llT »?4 «. ««: P- M <»»• 1. 1. 10 from boMom, " bst*eni Orem's 
and All Souli," !• rarBly a miw^ng for ** bttw«m QoMii't and All 

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aUQousntacAxmn rvn tma Xanon skma beaddrsssed. 

Digitized by 


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eliim» araaui, inteAil imodttuiMi, itnd Invlgonttnt power have 
■roc DT Wl iU lenenu Mlopeioii u a breaUkst btveras^ Sold In lib,. 



Price Is. 6d. iter lb. 


in Hexagon Packets ; and many other varieties. 


Sold bjr Grocers and BrtXggiM. 
J. S. FRY & 801<S. Bristol and London^ 


HEDGES & BUTLER have imported a large 
quantity of this valuable Wine, respecting which it is thejEcneral 
opinion that it will equal the celebrated cornel year of 1811. _ JRlS U- 

creasing in value, and the time most soon arrive when Port of this dis- 
tlniruished vintage will be at douUe Its prennt prioe. M« 
* Butler are now offtring it at 38s., iSs., atid 46s. per dosan. 

Fore sound Claret, with considerable flavour. . . . Sis. and sog. ptr do>. 

Superior Ciaret Sfis. 4Ss. 48s. 60s. 78s. 

Good Diiiiier Shern* ^ u. ***• ^'^' •« 

Superior Pale, Oomen, or Brown Shttty S8s. 41s. 48s. „ 

Fort, from ftrst-class htdppers 36s. 41s. 48s. eos. ,« 

Hock and Moselle 30s. a6s. 48s. eos. to ISOs. „ 

Sparklinir ditto ..i...» .Ms. 06s. 78s. 

r. WS." 

SparkllDgChimpsgne 41s. 48fl.l 

Is. rss. „ 

Fine old Sack, rare White Port, Imperial Tokay, Malmsey. Fron- 
tlgnae, Coustintia, Yermuth, and other rare Wines. 

Fine Old Pale Cognac Brandy, 80s. and 7Ss. per dozen. 
On receipt of a Post-ofRce Order or reference, any quantity, With a 
priced List of all other Wines, will be forwarded immen lately by 

Hedges k tiutLEk, 


Brighton 1 ao. King's Road. 

(Originally ertahUshcd ▲.s. 1667.) 

TAMES L.DENMAK, Wine Merchant, Introducer 

el of SOUTH AFRICAN WINBt, 65. Fendliirch Street, London, 

The Public are invited to select Wlnai hf SMlple from 4 t8ry laifg 
Stook of nearly tOO difnrent kinds. Boni.xs ihclpoju. 

From France (good sound CUret) 
Germany (Hock ) - * 
Spain ( Port and flherry ) - 
South Africa (ditto) - - 
Hungary ( Port and Claret) 
ml (Alto Pouo) 
Vtrmuth ... 


Priced Lists Poet Fie«. Terms, Cash. 

Just pub lished. Ss. d otht or i$. calf, neat, 



BatteMtai an Hieioriool aiid,,DasoripClve Aeooimt ef the Tine, It8 

Cultuig and Producein aU Coau^les,^Ancient and Moderm. 

Drawn nam Uie Best Attthorities. 

** Ijar*yHU« take the cork ovt o/thy motOA, 

not I map drink My Hdfiig$." ~ As You lamm It* 

J. L. DENMAN. 65. Fenehnroh Street i LOBQMAIT tt Co. 

Patemoittr Bow. 


Bee to eautkn the Publto aninal Spurloini ImitaUons of their 

Porahaaen should 


FNaoonaod br CearnileseHH to b8 


*•• Bold Wholesale and for Export, by the PK>prieton, Worcester, 

ME8SB9. CROSSE ft BLACKWELL. London, Ac, Ac, 

and by Oroetis and Oilmen universally. 


DIABRHCCA . CHOLBBA. - The tlellms of these diseases are 
D ettWiieratedln the weekly Mlts of ttortamy . With the hot damp 
weather, defective drainage, and impure exlialatlous, the nuitiber of 
daathsfromth — ' — "' ... - ^..^ . 

ment be found 

m these two diseases will steadily increase, anlsM some treat- 
)und caoaoie of eonnteraetlog and overeoming them, tv nea 
oatuienoe and indigestion ftrstgive warnlnj; of the oomiDg evil. Hollo- 
way's Ointmaat should be asswtiw^y rubbed gver the abdomimi while 



The Hon. FBAVCIS •COTT, Cha^an. 

CELABLS8 BEBWICK CURTIS, Esq., Deputy Chairman. 


iPfeCIAIi MOTICE.-Parties desirous of partieipating In the fourth 
division of profits to be declared on policies effectea prior to the 31st of 
UecembeT« 1881, should make immediate application. There have 
already been ttiree divisions of profits, and the bonuses divided have 
averaged nearly 2 per cent, per annum on the sums assured, or from 
30 to too per cent, on the premiums paid, wlthoat the risk of copart- 

To ehot^ more eloatly what these boaiueo amount to, the three follow- 
ing cases are given as examples : — 

Sum Insured. Bonuses added. Amount payable up to Deo. 1864* 
X6.000 £1,987 lOs. J6,987 lOs. 

IfOOO 397 lOs. 1,397 lOs. 

100 39 l&S. 139 ISs. 

Notwithstanding these large additions, thIP premiums are on the 
lowest scale compatible with security ; in addition to which advantages, 
vne half of th« premiums may, if desired, for the term of five years, 
remain unpaid at 5 per cent. Interest, without security or deposit of the 
policy. "^ 

The Assets of the Company at the 31st Deeemhtf , lfi«o, amoanted 
to J73o,66A 7s. lOd., all of which had been invested in Government and 
other appnnredseotirities. 

No charge for Volunteer Btilitary Corps whilst serving in the United 

Policy Statnps paid by the Offioe. 

Fur Prftil>eguses,^fte..^apply to the Beaident Director, 8. Waterloo 
'" '' g . L. BOYD, Baddeat Director. 




Fowided A*D. IMS. 


H.E. Bioknell.Bsq. 
T« I. Cocki. Bsg. 
O. H.Drew, Esq* K. A 
r« Fuller .Esq. 


E. Lucas, G«q. 
F.B. Marson.Bsq. 

fhmMmmt—ir, B. Baiham. M.D» 
B»nters.~l[ls8n. Ooeks, Blddiil»h,a«dOo. 

^cinary. — Arthur Seratehley, M.A. 
FOLIOniS efected in this Qfloe do not become void through tem- 
porary diiieulty in paying a Premium, as permission is given upon 

drfiSdSiiais%v.'ftiK«tfsf''*"**^^^^ **" ~'" 

^LOf^B ftom lOM. to 8081. gnuit«d on tul of Mnt-rrte Pnwngl 
Ba»m9le t 1981. eaah paid dovB »ai«hMes-.An aanolty of - 

/t S. (f. 

9 18 10 to ft male Ufo aged 80] 

11 7 4 
IS II • 

18 6 


Bow ready, 410 pages, 14st 



Present CondlUon, and < 

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Trustees, Managers, and Actuaries, 


."''^■fc**"**'? P"t *^ Suhjeoti together wSh 
I, and Tinandal Informati<m« for the use of 

Dinneford't Pure Iliiid Masfneiia 

Has been, during twenty-flve years, emphatically sanctioned by the 
MedlcarPioftasloii, and universally aeoepted by the Ptft)lie« u the 
Best Bemedy Ibr Acidity of the Stomach ■ ^ — "---•-. -r^... 
and Indigestion, and as a Mild Aperie 
more especial! - - - 

ion, aniTas a SCUd Aperient for delicate constitutlooi, 

ily for Toadies and Children. (Combined with the Acldn- 

iated Lemon Byrne. It forma an AoaBaAai.a Brranvuetno Dsaoobt, 
in which its Aperient qualiUes are much increased. During Hot 

Beasonsandin HotCUniates.therflffN2«irive<^t'>' '- " * 

remedy has been found highly benefloial. Mt 

ntmwi attetiUon to etrength alid pati}j)MPl^ 

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TrajuOation of the SauBkrit Claasio, << The Hitopadesa." 

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■ ,. .,■ ji -> .HI f mn ma ■ I i T 

In old tinio KirkbT in Keodal (t. e. church 
town in the TtUey of the Ken, a nune now abbre- 
Tiated to Kefodal,) was the teat of a nianikfaotiire 
of woollen cloth, which attahied to ooDtiderablo 
notoriety under the designation of "Kendal green." 
The niapafacture was founded in the fourteenth 
eentorj by weaT«ii from the Loir Cpuotriea, who 
settled hi that part at the invltfttiaik c^ Edward 
in. It was the sutiec* of several acta of parlia* 
ment, the first of which w^s passed In the thir- 
teenth jear of King Richaud II, a.d. 13S9. Cam- 
den, in his Britannia spoke of the town in these 
words ; " Lanificii gloria et industria ita pwecel- 
lena ut eo nomine sit celeberrhnum.*' Who does 
not recolleol those " three misbegotten knaves in 
Kendal green," by whom the valiant Falsti^flT was 
attacked in the dark at GadshUl? Prayt&n*s 
PolyoUnon is Jess often in the hands of the gene- 
ral reader thsn this veraeious story i and it may 
therefor^ not be superfluous to stale that in the 
thirtieth song the IVwise sings thus : — 

«< Can gives that dais her name whsi^ l^sodal town 

doth stand, 
For nakiog of our ^th scarce matched ij\ all tha lai^d." 

We win cite another writer to show how wide- 
spread wa3 the use of the cloth made at this plaee 
300 years ago. Jn a tract by William BuU§yn, 

printed in 1564, there occurs this description of a 
minstrel or troubadour : — 

" There ia lately come into this hall in a jpreea JTendol 
coaty with yellow no8e» a beard of the same coloar, only 
upon the npper lip, a msset hat with a great phime of 
strange feathers, and a brave scarf about his neck, in cat 
bnskins. Ke ^ playiog at the trej^tcip witb oar host's 
son; he plinth tiick upon the gUt«m» and diwieea 
'Trenchmore* aad *Q;^ de Gie,* and teUeth n^wa from 
Terra Floiidai" 

In Drunken Bamaby*^ Ftmr Jcwmeys to the 
Noftk of Engbmd, the first edition of whieh was 
published abovt 1640> there is an allusion to the 
oetebrity of Kendal, ^ proper pannom.*' 

Grees, the colour of folii^ and sward, has 
always been deemed the colour of spcurtnaen in 
wood and field. The Yeoman of Chaucer (where 
can we find such clear piotures for the mental eye 
as those he has painted ?) was ^< cladde in oote and 
hode of grene," and then — 

"An horae he bare, the baadrick was of greae, 
A Forater was he sothely as I gesse.'* 

Some tisse af^rwards Beu JonsoQ« iq Love's 
Wek^mey brings befi>re us a personage thus at- 

« He's in Kendal green, as ia the forest colour seen." 

However, notwithstanding ^e celebrity of the 
cloth, it is evident, from several passages in our 
old writers, that " Kendal green " was cousidered 
only fit for a poor man's wear, just as ** hodden 
gray *' at a later period was looled upon as the 
attire of a peasant. We will adduce a few in- 
stances of this. Here is one where a begearly 
picture is heightened by a touch of •' green : '° — 

** Two simple Sbepheardes met on a certayne day» 
The one well-aged with lockes hore and gray, 
Which after laboars and worldly busines 
Concladed to live in rest and qoletnea ; 
Yet neaight had he kept to flnde him cloth nor fode ; 
At divers holes his heare grewe through his hode, 
A stiffe patched felt hansing over his eyne. 
His costry clothing was tiiredebare KendaU ffrene** 

This is to be found in one of Aleacander Bar- 
clay's eclogues printed iu 1570. The same con- 
clusion is to be drawn firom a passage in some 
black-letter dialogues printed at London in 1581, 
which are entitled A Compendious or Brief Exa^ 
mination of certain ordinary Complaints of Divers 
ef our Countrymen in these evil Days, The ^as- 
9age to which we refer occurs in a conversation, 
turning upon the pride of dress, between a Knight 
and a Doctor. jSur Knight remarks : — 

** Kow-a-days serving men go more costly in apparel, 
and daily do fare more daintily than their masters were 
wont to do in times past" 

To which the Doctor replies : "— 

"I know when a serving man was content to go ia a 
Koidal eoat is snmner, and a friae coat in winter. Now 
he will look to have, at least for summer, a eoat of the 
fipe^t cloth that may he gotten for money." 

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Complaints like these have been made more 
than once in the interval which separates that 
time from this, and are perhaps made in our own 
day. Again, in Bbhop Hall's sixth satire, we 
read — 

** The sturdy plooghman doth the soldier see 
All scarfed with pied coloars to the knee. 
Whom Indian pillage hath made fortanate; 
And now he gWB to loathe hiA former sute : 
Now doth he inly scorn bis Kendal prten*' 

So comf>IeteIy identified was the cloth with the 
town, that the name of the latter was sufficient to 
indicate the former, as may be seen from Skelton's 
yerses, "The Bowge of Court," an alle^rorical poem 
on the Tices of a court, temp, Henry VIII. : — 

** With that came Ryolte, rushing all at once, 
A rustic gallande, to-ragf^ and to-reote ; 
His hoM was guarded with a Hste of greene, 
Yet at the knee ihey were broken, I ween ; 
His cote wax checked with patches red and blewe. 
Of Kirkebg Kendal was bis short demye,*' 

where the word ** demye" is supposed to mean 
some kind of close Test. Nay, the word Kendal 
came to M^jnify cloth, even when that cloth was 
manufactured elsewhere. Hall has chronicled 
that Henry VIII., accomfmnied by a party of 
noblemen, " came sodainly in a mornyng into the 
Quene*s chambre, all appareled in shorte cotes of 
Kentishe Kendal, like outlawes or Robin Hode*s 
men." In this passage it is clear that cloth made 
in the county of Kent was referred to. 

The clothiers of Kendal, as will readily be con- 
ceived, were persons of some importance; but as 
far as we know, only the name of one has been 

$ reserved from oblivion in verse. In Munday*s 
downfall qf the Earle of Huntingdon (1601), 
Scarlett, mentioning the persons who supplied the 
outlaws with their requirements says — 

" Bateman of Kendal gave us Kendal Oreeo." 
These clothiers were in the .habit of issuing 
their ** tokens," small coins, that had a local cur- 
rency, and which, in addition to the name of the 
tradesmen by whom it was issued, were orna- 
mented with suitable devices, such as teasels, 
wool-hooks, and wool-combs. Mottos not unfre- 
quently appeared upon the tokens. "Pannus 
mihi panu*^was one of these mottos, canting and 
appropriate enough. 

The time, however, came when outlaws and 
foresters went out of fashion, and cloth ceased to 
be dyed with the colour thev affected. When 
Mrs. Radcliffe passed through Kendal in 1794, 
she teUs us that she looked for ** some shades of 
Kendal Green, but she saw none, nor indeed anv 
lively colour, except scarlet." Even the dow 
ceased to be made from some of the changes in 
trade to which all places are liable, and not for the 
reason of their refusing to comply with the ad- 
vice old Fuller gave them in his Worthies : — 
** 1 hope the townsmen thereof (a word is enough to 

the wise) will make their commodities so snbttantiaU^ 
that no southern town shall take an advantage to tadtt 
that trading away from them. I speak not this out ef the- 
least distrust of their boaesty, but the great desire I have* 
of tbdr happiness, who, being a Cambridge man, ooi off 
sympathy wish well to the cIotbierB of Kendal, as tkfr 
first founders of our Sturbridge fair." 

Can anyone inform us whether specimens of 
Kendal Green have been preserved to these days F 
We fear not; but it is just possible that some 
local antiquary may have a fragment to swear by. 
Perhaps Mr. Nicholson may be able to tell ua 
something about this in the forthcoming edition 
of •• The Annals of Kendal." We are informed 
that the dyeing fn^ooess consisted of two operations : 
a yellow tint was first communicated by the 
Dyer*s broom (Oenisia tinctttria), and then the 
yum was steeped in an infusion of woad (Tsatie 
tinctorid), the resulting colour being a dull green. 

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(^Continued from p. 28.) 

xxvi*** die Aprilis. — John Woulfe. Alowed nnUr 
him &c. a ballad intituled A newe merfye Mediey^ 
proeuringe delighte, which now very latefy u come 
unto sigiue to pleasure eche Person at everye good 
Season^ that hath smaU delighte in Byrne wShomt 
Reason vj*. 

[Here the rhyming title was written by the clerk at 
StaUoners* Hall as proee, perhaps to save room. Tho8» 
who bad *< small delight in rhyme without reason," wer* 
not very likely to find pleasure in a JfedZqf, which con- 
sisted of many scraps of ballade, &C., strung together 
without other connection, and where want of connection 
formed much of the drollery of the peHbrmanoe. We 
know that Richard Tarlton, the famous comic actor, com- 
posed a production of this kind, which went by his name, 
and the tune of TarIton*s Medley was afterwards em- 
ployed by others for the same purpose. One of these is 
now before us ; it has no date, but is evidently consider- 
ably later, being ** printed by F. Coles, T. Yere^ and J. 
Wright," and entitled •* An exceUent Medley — 

« Which you may admire at (without offence). 
For every line speaks a contrary sense.'* 

We are further informed, that it was to be sung *< to the 
tnne of Tarlton's Medley^** and it contains the following 
mention of him, every line forming part of some well- 
known ballad : — 

« When the fifth Harry sail'd for France, 
Let me alone for a country dance, 
Nell wiU bewaU her luckless chanos, 

Fie on false-hearted men t 
Dick Tarlton was a merry wag. 
Hark how that prmtiog ass doth brag ; 
John Dory sold his ambling nag 
For kick-shawa.*' 
Most of the ballads are lost, but we still have that of 
John Dory, who sold bis ambling nag for quelque chose. 
Another stanza, with which the medley concludes, shows 
that it was written before the decapitaUon of King 
Charies: — 

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** The CoQiiier and the ooontry man. 
Let's lire as honest as we can ; 
When Arthur first in court began. 
His men wore hanging sleeves. 
In May when grass and flowers are green ; 
The strangest sight that ere was seen ; 
God send our gradons King and Queen 
To London." 

' Tbemy^wt haye nsed has no mark of anthorship, bnt 
there is another in the Roxburgbe Collection, in the 

I British Museam, with M. P., for Martin Parker, at the 
•end, and it was doubtless his compilation.] 

xv^ MaiL — Jo. Wolfe. Rd. of him &c. to printe 
Ji biJlad, intitaled A newe Ballad, brieflie shewinge 
JOie horde Hap of a Prentice of Lojidon^ beinge a 
JSouldier [no sam]. 

[M ilitanr preparations, in conseqnence of the war in 
<he Netherlands and the. threats of invasion firom Spain, 
wrare at this time active ; and apprentices were often un- 
"^rlHingly pressed into the service. The ballad, as we 
Judge from its title, was directed against this practice ; 
end JM it could scarcely be palatable to persona in antho- 
lily, the non-payment of any money may indicate that 
the usual license waa withheld.] 

-x^ Mail. — Tho. Gubbin, Tho. Newman. Rd. 
of them tee. to print The Lawyert^ Logyhey exem- 
pi^jfinge He Preeqpte» of LogikB by the Practice of 
the Common LawCj under the B, of London^ Mr. 
JLbrdkam Frcemce^ ami the WarderCe Handee . yj'. 

[Abraham Awmoe wae the anthor of the book, and it 
iwas most unusual to enter his name as one of tbe per- 
.aona vouching ibr its unobjectionableneas (dt venia). It 
was printed in 1588, in 4to, under the above title, '<by 
'William How for Thomas Gubbin and Thomas Newman.^ 
'This is the earliest appearance of the name of Fraunce in 
tthe BagiMter*. He had been educated partly at the ex- 
.>penae of Sir P. Sidney and his family ; and the work next 
Jioticed ia also by him.] 

xj* die Jnnii. — Tho, Gabbyn, Tho. Newman. 
IBd. of them for their licence to printe a booke, 
intytuled The Arcadian Bhetorich, or the Preeeptee 
•of Bketorich made pUsine by Exampiee^ Oreehe^ 
JLaiyne^ EngUehe^ Itaiyan^ Frence^ ami Spamehe ; 
}>7 Mr. Abraham Fraunce, ka tj^ 

[Perhaps Fraunoe's own unsupported word was here 
triken in nivour of his own book, which was also printed 
with the date 1588 on the title-page, by Thomas Orwin for 
Gubbin and Kewmi^ The name ** Arcadian Bhetoric'^ 
savours of Sidney, under whose eye the work was, perhaps, 
«ompoeed. Fraunce was one of the poeto of that day, who^ 
like Spenser, was induced by Sidney, Dyer, and Harvey to 
attempt the Latin measures in English ; but he did not, 
Jike Spenser, abandon them, when he found them nn- 
.anited to our language : to the last he suifered under the 

xix^ Janil. — Ric. Jones. R' of him for his 
lyoence to printe a ballad intituled AU Men whose 
Wyvee will not love Aem well must carrye them 
yinio India to dwell vj*. 

[This title could hardly have reference to the Suttee 
Wives of Hindostan, bnt merely to the power of export- 
lug bad wives to America or the Islanas. Women were 
in much request by the settlers.] 

516 Junii. — Jo. Wolf. Alowed unto him A 

Newe Ballad wamynge Richemen to have com- 
passion of the Poore [no sum.] 

&It seems likely that the license for printing this 
ad was suspended until Wolf could procure some tes- 
timony in its favour; therefore no sum is entered as 
having been paid. A ballad headed Ifane Pity o» the 
Poor waj» nevertheless licensed to Owen Rogers as early 
as 1558-9. See Extracts from the Eegittert of the Sta- 
tioner^ Company^ printed by the Shakespeare Society in 
1848, voL L p. 170 

Jo. Charlewood. Alowed unto him An Epi- 
taphe upon the Life and Death of the Countesse of 



[ She was one of the wives of Edward de Yere, Lord Great 
Chamberlain^ who came to the title of Earl of Oxford in 
1562, and did not die until 1604. He was a poet of con- 
siderable celebrity, and of some excellence ; but perhaps 
the most remarkable incident of his life was his personal 
quarrel with Sir Philip Sidney in the tennis-court, out of 
which grew the " Arcadia " ; for Sidney, being offended 
with the Queen's decision in &vour of Lord Oxford, re- 
tired to Wilton, and there, it is said, wrote his famous 
Pastoral. Nevertheless Nash, when he published his 
surreptitious edition of Sidney's Aatrophal and Stdla in 
1591, included in the volume among the ** Poems of 
snndrie Noblemen and Gentlemen " one by the Earl of 
Oxford, subscribed merely £. O., which is perhape better 
than any other piece he left behind him. It begins — 

« Paction that ever dwellea 
In Court, where wit excelles, 

Hath set defiance : 
Fortune and Love have swome 
That they were never bom 


We do not recollect that it haa ever been repefoted, but it 
may have found its way into some of the yariaua.gfAtiMd 
miscellanies of the day.] 

H. Kirkham. Alowed unto him A Dittye of 
eneotiragemefd to Englishmen to be bold tojight in 
defence of Prince ana Countrey . . • . yj*. 

[Herbert (Ames, iii. n. 1822) called this production a 
Haiogtie^ instead of a *< dittye," as it stands plainly written 
in the Segiatm: It, of course, originated in the threat of 
the Spanish Armada ; but the entry has no date of the 
day or month.] 

Frimo Die Julii. — Tho. Orwyn. Entred unto 
him for his copie a booke intided The Complaint of 
Tyme yj*. 

[We know of no work precisely with this title; but it 
is to be observed that the earliest portion of Spenser's 
vol called ComplaintM is entitled The Buine of Tune. It 
would not surprise us if that poem were intended, and 
that it had found its way into Orwyn's hands in 1588, 
before it was published by Ponsonby with eight other 
pieces by Spenser in 1591. This speculation may give 
unusual inaportance to the above entry.] 

N.B. — The following entries, belonging to the earlier 
portion of the year 1588, are found in aootber part of the 
same volume of the Reautert^ with these wordii appended 
in a note: — "This place was mistaken, and therefore 
these copies be here striken oute, and placed in their 
dewe places amonges thentraunces at copies. The fact 
seems to be that they are elsewhere omitted, and we ' 
quote them here for greater completeness ; the clerk per- 
haps forgot them afterwards^ and not one of them has any 
sum attached. 

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4 Marcii, 1588. — Jo. Wolf. Stitred fbr his 
copie, A Summons for SieperSy upon condytion 
that it maye be Ijoensed hereafter .... 

[It is a short religious tract by Leonard Wright, and 
it came out with the date of 1589. It was reprinted in 
1596, and again in 1617. One part of ft is directed 
a&ainst women ascending the pnlpit, and assnniing the 
office of religions instmctors ; another part is against pre- 
posterous abuses in apparel The same author wrote and 
published in the same year A Di^ihig of Ihttie, wtiich 
oontaini a poem "In prayse of Friendship," not noticed 
by Riison or other poetical bibliographers, but showing 
tiiat the writer was no unpractised or contemptible rer- 
flifyer. He wrote the Pilgrimage to Paradiae, printed in 
1691, and varietts tsacta against Marprelate.] 

Jo. Wolf. — Entered for Ms copie a wttg in 
Dtttche of the overthrowe of the Spanishe Kavie, 
Mr, EUrtwelFs hand being to it. And to be 
printed either in Duch, English, or French 

[HartwaH was at this time ime ef the WaHhlis of the 
Coomany. No snch song, nor anything IMee it, has svr- 
^ved, but ooBsidering the tine and the tuibject, ft would 
te of gi«at hifltoricfll mteiMt] * 

Jo. WoIf.^Entred for him 7^ Adveniurei of 
Dan Owalter de Memiota, Prmot ^ A«»2m, 
IDtMf cftke CMden Flem. Under Mr. Hart- 
welrs hand and Mr. Denham*B. TVansUted o«t 
of French into English 

[Denham was also a Warden. The title reads like that 
of some romance; bat Don Bernardino de Mendoza was 
at this period ambassador of Spain to Pari^ and curious 
accounts are extant of his extravagant boasting and 

N.B. — We now return to -die regular tsourse t)f the 
Begifltrations in the volume, beginning where, as appears 
by the record, Mr. Harrison, Bu. Coldock, and Mr. Den- 
luuB ware named Wardena for the |raar bfi^nning 22 July, 
1688, and ending 23d Julj, 15891 There ifl oa\y one 
antflHor entry, via., 

9 JqIj, 11^8. -^o. Wolf. Ed. of him for 
nriitiiBge a ballad c^ Mnomnffem&nt ta Enfchah 
SMiers wdUMSy to hehmm 4hmntelve9 in, Dtfkmne 
t^lke trwe ReUgion and their Chttrttrey [ira Btnn] 

fNo money appears to have been paid on the occasion, 
and paanbly license was withheld bManse we have al- 
nadgr aeea that H. Kirkham very t^hortly before bad 
given the usual fee of 6<i. for a ballad with nearly the 
same title, *< religion** being, however; substituted for 
** prince.** Ko doubt publications of the same character 
and tendency were numerous, but hardly one, we believe, 
has escaped destruction.] 

22 Julj — Jo. Chariwood. Item. Kd. ef him 
for iij baUads : The first intitled A Ditty whrnring 
th§ F^lg of Man : the second The Meane io 
Amendment: the third, A Caveat far Xpians, 


[It ia not likelT that The Failg ^fMoH had any oon- 
motion with the baUad nt 7%e FaU of Fi»Ug entered by 
■L Jones en 24 April preceding. It seeoM not aofre- 
oaeatly to have happened that a popular mductlon of 
we kind waa reprintod soon afterwards undor a slightly 
Sn..K?^ ^il«: tU whole three hsn mentioned ware no 
aottbt of a almilar xaUgiooa and moral complexion.] 

J. Patihi CoSLLIia. 


As even Hume's hiftorj, oareleat and super- 
ficial as it n, hai been to this daj reprinted 
without correction, it is perhaps vain to hope 
that Lord Macaula^'s brilliant work will find a 
careful and impartial editor during this gene- 
ration, at least in England. But it seems desir- 
able that aome collections should at once be 
Made of the titles of bookfl or pamphlets or 
fugitive articles, in which nay of Macaulay*8 
statements are controverted, corrected, or con- 
firmed. If your correspondents will follow up the 
hint, it is possible that some American, Dutcn, or 
German editor, may venture to introduce the 
materials thus got readj to his hand into the 
notes, and so in time "the general reader** may 
have the benefit of them. 

See for instance the Gent Mag. for Sept 1660, 
p. 287 (where two hlvnders are corrected), and 
an interesting letter in the LU, Gaz, 6 July, 1661, 
p. 12, seq.^ from Mr. Lathbury. 

It would also be of great assistance to future 
bbgrap%^rs, if your correspondents would from 
time to lime "post up ** the notices which appear 
In various Jonnials of emfaient men latdy deceased. 
It may be doubted whether we have now soch 
accnrate Mographicat notices anywhere published, 
as used to appear in the Oent, Mag. and Europ, 
Mag,<i when edited by John Nichols and Isaac 
Reed{ but at any rate we should give onr count- 
ies joamaLi oredit for the few facts which they 
oooasioiiaily preserve amidst a maas of matter 
sappDsed to be more ** entertainioff.** 

By way of maldng a beginning, 1 note the let- 
ters in which Hannah More gave an account of 
ths boy Macaulay {MaemSOan's Mag. for Feb. 

Whatever opinion wn maj form of the perma- 
neiee of Lord liaoattlay'a hterary repatalum, its 
preBest unrfvrsality is certainly undeniable. See 
the references in (msse^B LekrJmek^ m. iiL p. 25, 
B. 26, p. 1645, n. 19. Josh E. B« Matob. 

St. John's CoUegs, Cambridge. 


These are two expressioiis whioh ooeur — the 
former occasionally, the Isrtter frequently— in our 
older literature, and neither has yet been ade- 
quately explained. I think I can throw some 
light on their origin. 

Incony^ says Nsres, is ** sweet, pretty, delicate" ; 
Mr. Dyce says, *• fine, delieale, pretty " ; and this 
is, I believe, all that has been hitherto said about 
it. Instances of the use of this teran will be found 
from Marlow, Shakspeare, Ben Jonson, and others, 
in Nares's Glossary, I have now to add that Mr. 
Collier has, in the Supplemental Notes to the 2nd 
edition of his Shakspeare, given a passage from 

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the 8hoemak^8 Holiday of Dekker and Wilson, 
whi<^ Beems to me to give the true and simple 
origin of tbe phrase. It is as follows : — 

*< There they shall be knit, like a pair of stookingi, in 
matzimoDj; there they 11 be in conie,** 

Any one who reads Fletcher's Knight of ihe 
Burning Pestky will see that cany, like lamby 
matue, ^c, was one of the endearing terms then 
in use oetween married couples : so that, to be in 
cony^ was to be in a state or matrimonial endear- 
ment ; and hence, inc6ny came to be used as an 
adjectire of endearment in general. Msj not the 
orijB^ of endear itself have been similar ? 

The critics made certainly some approach to 
the meaning of incony ; bat m their attempts at 
explaining $et up rest, they hate all shot mde of 
the mark. Set up rest, says Nares, who I believe 
is generally fbllowed, is, ^'To stand upon the 
cards you have in your hand,** — as we do at 
Vingt-et'un ; while Staevens, who is followed bv 
Mr. Collier, deduces it f^om the practice of soT* 
diers fixing the rest for the support of their fire- 
lock when about to discharge it. . 

I have more than once remarked the slender 
acquaintance with the language and literature of 
Spain shown by our Shaksperian critics, and the 
present is an instance, ana a strong one, of the 
truth of my observation. Set up rest, they all 
tell us, beloxwed to the game of Primero, which 
was derived m>m Spain. Now the dictionary of 
the Spanish Academy defines Resto in these words 
(the reader must excuse my quoting Spanish) : 
** £n los juegos de envite es a(]^nella cantidad que 
separa el ju^Mlor del demas dinero para jugar y 
envidar** ; and JSchar el reUo (set up the rest) — 
** £n el juego donde hai envites envidar con todo 
el caudal que uno tiene delante y de que hace su 
resto.** Envidar and envite, I may here observe, 
come from the Latin verb invito, and signify chal- 
lenge, wager, bet, — a sense in which the Italians 
also use their verb intitare, and which is also to be 
found in the French d f «iivt, and our own me» 

Best, then, is a Spanish term, which was adopted 
along with the Spanish name of the game Prt- 
mero (properly Prmera), or Qninokh a term also 
in use; just as when the Spanlih ^ame of Ombre 
came into England, it bron^t in its train Baeto, 
SpadiUa^ MmdOa {MaUUa), Matador. Another 
term which came with Frimtro, was ftmk — the 
Spai^h Jha : the sibilant, as usual, taking Uie 
place of the guttural. It i§ not neeeaiary raat I 
should try here to derelope the nature of the 
game of Primmv; b«t I may observe ikuA flush 
appears to faaive been higher than primera, the 
former being formed by four cards of the same 
suit ; the latter by four, one of each suit All 
the cards used seem to have been ace to seven 
inclusive, and one coat-card ; the seven being the 
h^hest, and reckoning twenty-one. As in the 
dialogues quoted by Narei, we read ** two i^iillings 

stake and eight shillings rest,** and ** one shilling 
stake and three shillings rest,** it is plain that the 
rest was difierent fVom the stake, and was what 
we term a bet. It may be finally observed, that 
set up was equivalent to lay down, and arose from 
the piling up of the money ventured ; and that we 
still use iet and lay, with an ellipse in each case of 
the preposition. 

Set up rest soon came to be used in a general 
sense, as meaning, make up one*s mind, resolve on, 
«^a sense in which it occurs more than once in 
Shakspeare. The same seems to have been the 
case in Spanish : for. In Don Quixote (ii. 66.), 
when Sancho is about to accept the courteous 
ofier of tbe lackey Tosilos, of a share of his pro- 
vbions : " Quiero el envit^ dijo Sancho, y echese 
el resto de la oortesia.** The latest instance I 
have met with of tbe use of the phrase set up rest, 
is in Lady Vane*s narrative in Beregrine Pichle . 
"From Calais,** says her ladyship, "I went to 
Brussels, where I again set up my rest in private 
lodgings.**. If I recollect right, the phrase had 
been uready used in this sense by John Evelyn 
and others. By-the-way, it was eitner Lady Vane 
herself, or some friend, that wrote these Memoirs : 
fOT SmoUeti was utteriy incapable of narrating her 
frailties with so much grace and delicacy. 

There is a curious error in the fbllowing ][;>as- 
Sage of 6ascoyne*s Supposes^ which is quoted in 
illustration at set up rest : — 

** This amonms eaase, that hangs In controversy be- 
twsen Domlae Doctor and me, may be compared to them 
that play at Prknero, of whom one peradventore shall leeee 
a great som of money before be win one stake; and at last, 
hi3f in anger, shall ttt np kit rest, win it, and after that 
another and another, till at last be draw the most part of 
the money to his heap." 

The original of this is : — 

** Qoeita oa«a amorosa, ^e si litiga 
Fra me e Oleandro, a nn gioco mi par abnile 
Di jom, dove aleono vedTpefdero 
A posta a posta in pib volte on £ran nnmeto 
Di deaari, e dolento al fin dir: .Vadane 
// retta, e quaodo aspetti cfae da 1' ultima 
Dittmsione sua, tu '1 vedi vincere 
Quel tratlo, ed indi un allro, e in modo arridergli 
Fortuna, che tre, quattro, e cinque, Jn plcciolo 
Spazio ne tira, e dal sue lato crescere 
» K il mucchio." — Ariosto, GU Siqxpond, iil 3. 

Here the game is ^<mi— a very diflferent game 
from Primero ; and the resto is merely all the 
money the player had remaining, his last stake. 

Thos. Kxiqhtlbt. 



The original of the following interesting petition 
has Utely oome into m]r possession, with a Urge 
collection of records having refefenoe to the town 
and ne^bourhood of Kinsale. This document 

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affords a g:ood illustration of the arbitrary exac- 
tions of the petty corporations of the period, the 
Sovereign, in this instance, endeavouring to main- 
tain some old feudal right Considering the un- 
settled state of this kingdom at the time, and 
the vtrj humble condition of the petitioners, the 
prompt reply of the Lord Deputy shows that the 
complaints of all classes of the Irish people were 
attended to, and their grievances immediately re- 
dressed. Lord Deputy Wentworth*s (afterwards 
the celebrated Earl of Strafford) reply is written 
at the foot of the petition, in whicn form it was 
returned to the memorialists. Accompanving the 
memorial is the settlement of the dispute Sy Capt. 
Adderley and Dr. Fuller. 

**Tothe right hono"^ the lord DeputU generaO. 
** The humble PeticOn of a Companie of poore ffiahermen 
upon Silly-point, in the parish of Rincorran, neere 

<*Hainbl7 shewing unto your honor of the graivons 
molestacons and aooOna of the Sovereigne of jUnsale 
David Roach upon yoor poore 8opp>*', w*^ are a free 
people without the GorporacOn of Kihuale, and Of another 
ranah, having onlv Irish Cabinetts to dwell in, not 
above three acres of land compaaa, under one Mfllefont, 
gent. Notwithstanding the aaid Sovereigne doth force 
your supple to g^ve unto him att his owne price the 
prime of all your snppio i&ah, as though y PeticOners 
were within y said GorporacOn, w«* your suppi**, upon 
the grations pclamaoOn from the Kings Ma*** refused to 
doe, for that the same did cutt of all by lawea, whereof 
this is one, and noe such conteyned within their Charter, 
yett upon your Peticoners denial!, hee doth imprison 
them, and sonde out Bailiffii and tdkes away their Rud- 
ders and sailes, to the utter mine of your poore Peti- 
oOners, their wives and many small children, being In 
number well neere 200 people great and smalL Maj it 
therefore please your honor to send for the said Sove- 
reigne to say, 9110 jmrt, or make your Referrence to any 
Justices of the peace for the examinacOn of the matter 
and retoume of the said Referrence. w*** their ezaminacOn 
In that behalf taken, or to compose the difference betwixt 
yC supp^** and the said Sovereigne. And they, as in 
duty bound, shall ever pray for your honor's health and 
happiness, &c 

** John Ewrin, Robert Wood, John Glapp, George Pre- 
dewre,*Thomas Lukes, and several others.*'^ 

« Dublin CastK 5 Martii, 1685. 

** Wee refer this matter unto Doctor ffuller and Gaptaine 
Thomas Adderlev, who are authorysed to examine and 
compose the dimrence if they can by consent, or other- 
wise to certify to us what they find, that wee may thersi* 
nppon give such order theiin as shall be fitt. 

" Wkntwoeth." 
"Uti> of March, 1685. 

** By virtue of a reference directed to us from the right 
H**** the L. Deputy, we have conferred w*»* the Sovereign 
of Kinsale, in presence of diverse other of the Gorporetion, 
and the fishermen complaynants being present, Wee have 
agreed and composed all differences betweene tbem, in 
manner and forme following, that is to say, that the 
fisherman are to let the Sovereigne of Kinsale to Uke his 
uanall fish. Hadock, God, Ung, Hallibut and other small 
fish, at the accastomed rates, and that the Sovereign shall 
have th« best of tbem, a peny sterling for a hake, 2* ster. 
for a cod, 4* for a ling, li* for a hallibut, and 2* for a 
prwff L ? ««1 of fish, amd if the fishermen goe abroad but 

one day in the weeke the Sovereigne can demand fish at 
his rates but for that one day, and if 2 days for those 2 
onely, bat if for all the week, they shall then deliver their 
fish but 8 days. D^ Fuller and Gap* Adderley for SiUie- 
men the fishers.** 

R. C. 


As a help to the biographers of Sir Frauds 
Palgrave I give a description of his earliest work, 
which seems to have become a rarity. It certainly 
is a curiosity : — 

« O'MH'POY BATPAXOinrOMAXTA. La guem des gre- 
nouilles et des souris d'Hom^re. Traduite mot pour mot 
de la version Latino d'E'tienne Berglere imprim^ vis-a- 
vis, par M. Francois Gohen de KenUsh-Town, agtf de huit 
ans. A qnoi on a ajout^ une paraphrase en vers Anglois, 

Kbli^ par M. Pope. A Londres. 1797. Engnved T. -1- 
inted T. + Advert + pp. 68. 4©. 
'*AvxBTi8SBicBNT. £n dounaut ce petit onvrage an 
public, on n'a en dVutres vues, que de faire oonndtre 
an lectenr li quel degrtf un jeune ^colier sent d^k la force 
des mots Latins, et quels progr^ il a faits dans la langue 

** II y anroit done de Tinjustioe, si qnelque critique trop 
rigoureux s'avisoit de fironder ce coup d'essai, paroe 
qu*il n*y trouve ni asses de gofit, ni asses d*£i4^ee. 

*< On se flatte que tout homme ralsonnable, et port^ Ik 
admirer les talens singuliers, dans I'enfance mime, re- 
gardere cette production comme le fruit d'nn esprit pr^- 
coos^ qu'on cnitive sans manager ni soins ni d^penses. 
** HoMSRi Batrjlchomtomachia. a Stephano Ber- 
gltato Latini rtddUa atqM ediia. Amstelndami, a.d. 1707. 
** Indpiens, primnm, Musarum ccetum ex Helicone 
Yenire in meum cor opto, gratia carminis : 
Quod nuper in llbellis meis super genua posui 
litem immensam, tumultuosum opus Martis, 
Optans hominibns in aures omnibus mittere." 

La gmerre du gremomiOei €t du mmris, 

^ Dte le commencement de eet ouvrage je seuhaite avant 

tout, que le chosur des Muses vienne d'Htflicone dans 

mon coBur, en favour de la poteie ; Tonlant faire entendre 

Ik tons les hommes, ce que jadis j*^crivis sur les genoux 

Querelle * 

dans mes tablettea 

immense! ouvrsge tur- 

I suppose this Tolnme to have been printed for 
private use, but it was not noticed by Mr. Martin 
m 1834. The colophon runs — Printed by W, and 
C. SfiUhwry^ Snow-hiUf London; the engraved 
title IS by J. Spilsbury, after fiumey ; and the 
letter-press is handsomely printed on a stout 
vellum paper, with the water-nuffk £. & P. 1794. 
I cannot, however, describe it as equal to the 
paper of the fii^enth or sixteenth century. In 
that important particular, our boasted progress 
has been dianud retrogression I Boltoh Uobnxt. 

Bound Tower at Killbshan. — In the last 
published Proceedings of the Kilkenny Archmo- 

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logieai Socieiv (No. 33, p. 302) it is steted by the 
Rev. James Glares, — 

** I am not tware that the occurrence of a round Tower 
at Kflleahan baa erer been noticed by any of onr writers 

on Irish Architectural lemainB. Dr. Petrie is 

silent on the aobject" 

Mr. Fitzpatrick, id his Life, TimeSj and Cor» 
respotidehce of Br, Doyle (vol. i. p. 190), writes : 

'*Dr. Doyle had resided in Garlow since his consecra- 
tion, but, in tbe snmmer of 1822, he remoTcd to the honse 
and grounds known as Old Derrig, in tbe parish of Kille- 

ahan, Qneen's Connty An old, si one-roofed 

chapel and tbe remains of a roond tower exist in its 
▼icinity, as wcAl as various rains, which seem to be the 
foundations of the pnblic bnildings of an ancient town.** 


EmtopxAK lovosAircs of Avxbtca. — In the 
privately priD fed travels of Mrs. Gushing, of Mas- 
sachusetts, in France and Spain, she mentions 
that two persons in France expressed their sur* 
prise at finding her white. They thought that all 
the people of the United States were negroes, 

A lady in Ireland, within the last twenty years, 
hearing a young I*hilade1phian say that he lived 
upon the River Delaware, asked if he was not 
surrounded by tbe warWhe tribe of that name I 

A recent London newspapjer states that the 
Bunker Hill monument is in the vicinity of 
Charleston, South Carolina, confounding this city 
vrith Chaxiestoum, Massachusetts, in which Bunker 
Hill 18 situated. About thirty years ago, Mr. 
Paulding, in his burlesque on English travellers, 
called John BuU in America, makes the supposed 
traveller commit this same mistake. He crosses 
the bridge from Boston to CharIestown,and fancies 
he has arrived in South Carolina. 

And to the above I would most respectfully 
add the statement made in a recent number of 
"N. & Q." that the people of the U. 8. call the 
English BriHsher$f which I never heard any one, 
educated or uneducated, seriously do. Ukxda. 


Knio*8 Csoss. — Your readers have often heard 
DO doubt of the name of King's Cross, and its con- 
nection with the Great Northern Railway Termi- 
nus, but tbey may not have heard from whence 
its name is derived. Craving a small space in 
your paper, I will endeavour to enlighten them 
on the subject. 

King George lY. had just ascended the throne, 
when my grandfather, Mr. William Forrester 
Bray *, with the assistance of Mr. Dunston, late 
Governor of St. Luke*s, Old Street ; Mr. Robin- 
son, solicitor, 32, Charterhouse Square, and Mr. 
Flanders, a retired tradesman, commenced build- 
ing on some pieces of freehold ground, at a noto- 

* Some time proprietor of the Brighton Herald. Tbe 
late Mr. Biges, the originator of that popular periodical 
tbe FamUjf Herald, was at tbat period my grandfather's 

rious place for thieves and murderers, known as 
Battle Bridge. It was a speculation of 40,00(M., 
and soon my grandfather had the satisfaction of 
seeing sixty-t£ree houses erected ; some of which 
were situated in the thoroughfares afterwards 
named by him Liverpool Street, Derby Street, 
Hamilton Place, and Chichester Place, Gray's Inn 
Road. More houses were afterwards erected, but 
in consequence of tbe notorious popularity of the 
name of Battle Bridge, the new buildings would 
not let. The result of this was that my grand- 
father had an interview with the other freeholders, 
to enable them to change the name to a better 
one. One wanted the new built locality to be 
called ^ St. George's Cross." Another wanted its 
name to be "Boadioea's Cross," in memory of that 
great battle from whence it derived its name. 
But neither of these names being sgreed on, and 
my grandfather being the largest builder there, 
he proposed that, in honour of George lY., who 
had jiut assumed the crown, it should be called 
'* King's Cross." This was at once agreed to ; all 
leases were granted under that name, and from 
that period the locality has made great progress 
in civilisation and improvement. T. C. N. 

DiBT AND ITS Dak^xxs. — It is a somewhat 
curious fact connected with Toxicoloev, that of 
two tropical plants which yield the highly prized 
dietetic preparations, tapioca and arrotr-roo<, the 
former contains a deaoly poison, to which the 
latter provides an antidote. The edible starch 
known as tapioca, is the commercial product of 
the Brazilian Janipha manihot, the juice of which 
is a rank poison, ai!d is used by the South Ameri- 
can natives in the preparation of their deadly 
arrows. From the Maranta arundinacea, the 
crushed tubers of which supply the farinaceous 
substance known as arrow ^root, a similar juice is 
expressed, which has the property of counteract- 
ing the deadlv effects of the poisoned arrow ; hence 
the popular designation of the former article. On 
fnrther reference, I find that the antidotal oil or 
extract is that obtained from a plant called JSfa- 
ranta malanga, which is, however, only a variety of 
the one already referred to. Does this last- 
named species yield any article similarly conver- 
tible, or any kind of starch fit for consumption? 

P. Phillott. 


Catbxdbal. -- In the original MS. Catalogue of 
this Library is the following curious notice of 
one of the means by which it was founded : — 

** Legionis tone temporis in hac urbe prssJdiarifB doc- 
tores. £ 8018, qon ibidem fecerant, stipendiis, dedenint, 
partim ad hujos BibliothecsB itroctoram, partim ad alios 
nsus poblicoe, . . . Libras. 

Then follows a list of donations of books, and 
amongst others one which tends to solve a mys- 
tery which has long puzzled us, vi^., how we 

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came hj wa oopr of Goverd«le*0 Bibk witli Uie 
foyal anas (Jamet L) embossed ia gold on tfie 
coTer. ^ 

We find that, ^* ThomaB Purjr, Bea\ uuM ex 
Aldenaannis Cirit. Gloac. donayit Lib. aeq. 

« A lanK« ol<l EBgliab Bible.** 

A member of the ArchaBolosieal Inatitnte, lately 
engaf^ed in Lord 8peiieer*8 librarj at Althorpe 
stumbled upon a note (unfortunately he does not 
reo<Uleot the authoritj) to thii efieot : — 

«* The Glouceiter oopj of the CoTerdale Bible 
waft presented by Oliver CromwcU to AlderaMn 
Pury, and by him mm to the puhlie library.*' 

I suppoae there is no doubt that the ''large old 
Englin Bible" and our Ooverdale are one and the 
same book. C. T. Ck^vutT, Librarian. 

Alphabet Sixgls Rhtbcsd. — Knowing that 
you sometimes admit trifles among your more 
serious matter, I venture to send you a curiosity — 
an idphabet constiructed on a sin^e rhyme ; and I 
; believe I may challenge the English-spealung 
world to produce another. 

« A wss an Army to settls 4fcq>utes« 

B was a Bull, not the mlldeat of brotea ; 

G was a Cheque, duly drawn upon Coatts; 
j D was King David with harpa and with lutes; 

! E was an Emparor, hailed with salutes ; 

F was a Funeral, followed by mutea ; 

6 waa a Gallant in Wellington boots; 

H was a Herait, aad lived upon rooUfi 

J waa Justinian his Institutes ; 

K was a Ke^r, who commonly aboots ; 

L was a Lemon the sourest of fruits ; 

M was a Ministry — say Lord Bute's; 

N was Nichelaon, funow on flvMa ; 

O was an Owl, that hisses and boots i 

F was a Fond, AiU of leaches and newts j 

Q was a Quaker in wbiteybrown suits; 

R was a Reason, which Paley refbtes ; 

S was a Serjeant with twenty recruits ; 

T was Ten Tories of doubtful reputes; 

U was Uncommooly bad cheroots ; 

y YkMMis motives, wbich malioe isapates; 

X an £«-Kinc driven oat by ^eutes; 

T is A Yawn ; then, the last rhyme that sniti^ 

Z is the Zuyder Zee, dwelt in by coots." 


DsAir FBACOGK.^Geo. Peaoodc, Dean of Ely, 
was of DarUngton acbool (Carlisle's Orammar 
SkhooU^ i. 401). Ailer his death notioea of him 
appeared la the Times (11 Nov. 1858), the Sahtr* 
day Revieu> (13 Nov.), the Cambruke Chr^nicU 
(13 and 27 Nov.), the Athennsum (20 Nov., ap» 
parently by Prof. De Morgan), Frxuer's Mag. 
(Dec. 1858), and the Gent, Jf<^. (Apr. 1859, p. 
426.) His '* Mathematical and Scientific Works, 
.... beinff a portion of his Library," were sold 
bv auction oy CUias, Wisbey, of X5pinity Street^ 
Cfambridge, on the 7 Dec, 1858. 

JoHsr £. B. Matos. 

St JohQ's College, Cambridge. 

AKommous. — - Can you inform me who is 
author of, 1. Combos and Theunvgia, a MS. 
drama, 1736, formerly in the colleotion of W. B. 
Rhodes ? Is the author*s name ftiven in the sale 
catalo^e of the library of Mr. Rhodes f Alao, 2. 
Who 18 the author of Hamlet TVooesfis, a bur- 
lesque in two acts with notes, 12mo. Oxford, 
1849? I find a piece with t&is title in the cata- 
logue of the library of Mr. W. £. Burton, the 
American comedian. 3. Who is the author of 
7^ Compmwsy €f Qwtrmi smd TYmoJo, a drana, 
Smith, £lder & C!o., London, 1887 r R. Inoio. 

Bacchts. — I have lately been attracted by a 
beautiful paper on the walla of a firiead*s parlour ; 
and as one part of the deaign is pussling to me, I 
venture to send a Query, aUhoiif h by ao doi^g I 
may diaplay m^ ignorance. 

The paper is dengnad in panek, and on each 
side is pnntad an ai«chiteotiiral oolumn, fliUed 
from the corona to the baae. The capital consists 
of branches of grapes, graeofully entwined with 
leaves, and nrmountad hj^ the nnmistakable 
chubby cheeks of the laǤhing god. So far I 
onderatand it. But at the baae of the column, 
and apart from it, a half-unooiled serpent lifts its 
head and rarmects its foiked tongue ! Here I am 
at fault. What is the mesmmf of it P Can it be 
an illustration of Deut. xjczii. 83, or Pror. zziii. 

I have read through AMtacreoatis Vita a Jomta 
Bameno comsaripta^ Cantabrtgitt, 1721, but the 
above is not named with the numerous atatuea 
and designs there detailed. GBfnos Lloti>. 

BuvTAN FoETEAiTB.— -How many portraits are 
there of Jdm Bunyan, author of The PUgrimCs 
Frogresst T. Sadler painted one, 1685 { 4»kte 
Mrs. Saneyear had one — it now belonp to Wil- 
kinson of l^ottingham. Rev. John Olive, M.A., 
Rector of Ayott St. Lawrence, Hertfordshire, 
has one. Geo. Offor, Esq., of Ha<toey, has one. 
Sir Richard Philip, Bart, had one (who has it 
now?) Is there one hi the Red Cross Street 
Library? Is there one in the Baptist CfiUege, 
Bristol P Is there one at Oxford or Cambfidge F 

EpiomAM. — I have beard the foUowiiif ftce- 
tious epigram, but I diould like to know if it is 
in print, or if it is correct 

While Mr. Sheepshanks was prootor of Coxpus 
Christ! he proctorised a noted wag, who requited 
him as follows : — 
« The Satyrs of old wers Satya of Bot^ 

They hsd the hesdef a man sad the eUMAe of a goat; 

Bat tiia Satyn of Jesus are jast the rerene^ 

Thsy have tho eftojOt of a man aad the haad of an 

W. H. OvBmai^ 

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T-axE'-UABOif, — I luiTe in mj pocgeaiion a copy 
of a will, dated 1641, in which the testator describeB 
himself as "Free-mason** ; and also bequeaths 
a certain sum to a relative, whom he distiiiguishea 
by the same tiUe. Was this ever a oommon pra»- 
tioe P I should be glad to bear of an example of 
it at an earlier date. H. Fishwick. 

Fathbb Gbaih, owl 6E4HAM.— Who can tell 

me anvthing about " Grium, son to Gnmn of 

Braco^ who, after the revolution of 1685, be- 
longed to one of the companies raised at the desire 
of Jamea II. to anist the French king in the wars 
of Catalonia. He ** afterwards beciune a Caon- 
cbin, was well known by the name of Fatlier 
Graim, and died at Boulogne** (sur Mer) about 
1754? Jambs ElHowjisa. 

GsAirr. — This name occurs at Boncaster and 
Baroby Don early in the seventeenth century. I 
should be glad to hear particulars of this family, 
and anythii^ conneeted with it; — a person of 
the name Kvmg at Garasborough about 17Sd. 

The name in tbis instance, bein^ not uncommon 
in Uie counties of Kotts and Lmcoln, seems to 
be the same with Le Grant, found Uiere temp^ 
Edw. I., and is probably not of Bcoteb origin. 

J. H. C. 

HsBauAC QuBBiES. — 1. I should fed obliged 
by a further eluoidation of the meaning of thd 
Spanish word plasma, which the dictionary o£ the 
Academy ezpkuns as signifying *' a kind of ooat 
armour worn by knights who/ought /rem neee$iity : 
it was composed of wide and round sleeves and 
the body, and resembled our dalmatics.**— (" £spei- 
cie de eota de armas que traiaa loa oaballeros que 
peleaban por neeesidad. 6e oomponia de nnaa 
mangaa anehaa y redondast y del onerpo, y era 
panlcido 4 nuestaras dalmittcaa.**) What ie tlie 
meaning of the words I have italicised ? And 
what «re the t^ma answeriDg te pUujiUa in either 

3. I have been asked of what e<^our a leyMm 
^* proper** sboald be represented ? Alao^ the same 
inqfuiry with respect to a talbot proper. Can you, 
or mxj of your readers, kindly inform me f 

J. W. hovB, 


IxiTxasiGTiaK OT Maiikiaob.— The good people 
of FramptoB, near Boeten, ia LtnoolnshirQ^ were 
not only very striot, about the nuddle of the 
seventeen Ih eentmy, against the admission of 
strangers into their parish (see " H". & Q.** T^ 8. 
xii. 26.), but they took rather (I thmk) arbitrary 
measures to prevent marriages between persons 
in humble life. The Begiater of the parish shows, 
thai on the Ut of January, 1653 — 

** The marriage of %dwud Mertoa and Jane Goodwin 
was objected to by John Ayrt, Thomas Appleby, and 
WflHam Eldred,* bacaase^ hi the first places the saki 
Edwan^ Morton was a stranger, nd they did not know 

where he had lived notil a short time before, or wbether 
he was married or single; therefore they desired the 
marriage might be deferred until be brought a certificate 
of these things. And, secondly, because they have been 
informed, and do believe, that he is a very poor man, and 
therefore they wished him to get some sniBcient man to 
be bound with him, to secure the town from any chanre 
ofhimorhis." * 

I will run hazard of the charge of ignorance, 
for the chance of obtaining information from the 
readers of " N. & Q.,** and venture to ask, whether 
in 1653 and 1654 the then existing laws re- 
specting parochial settlements, and the marriages 
of poor persons, justified the inhabitants of 
Frampton in acting as tiiey did in the instance I 
have alluded to, or as they did in that mentioned 
at p. 26 of your present volume ? 

PiSHBT Tnoifpsov. 

Stoke KewingtDtt. 

^^KiaGHTs or Malta.** — Can any of your 
valued correspondents inform me if any historian 
has written exclusively on the English Langue of 
the Order of St. John of Jerusalem ? that is, 
from the time. of the establishing of this chi- 
vidrio order in England down to the latest re- 
cords. Jambs Wzlixam BaTAirs. 

Monaia^—- Wanted, any particulars concerning 
Edward Morris, Vicar of Aldburgfa, co. York, 
1677-*1720; and John Morrice^ R^tor of Burgh- 
WaUis, 00. York in 1719, died 1727. J. H. C. 

Ancient Musical Notation. — In our town \ 
library there is a noted copy of the Sarum Missal. 
Can anyone tell me of any book which contains 
an explanation of the ancient ecclesiastical system ; 
of musical notation ; and of the method of trans* j 
lating it, if I may use the expression, into the / 
modern style ? Gbbgobt. 


Thb Pasvon Pabsilt. — In a genealogy of the 
great Kentish fkroily of Isley, given in the TopO' 
grapher and Genealogist^ Fart xv., a member of 
that house (viz. John Isley, who died 1484,) is 
said to have married Annis Morley of Glynd, 
Sussex, previously the wife of Sir John Paston of 
Paatons Norfolk, who deceased in the year 1478. 

Can any of your readers give me the authority 
for this statement P I cannot find, by the PaMom 
Let^s* that Sur John Faaton wat ever married. 


VicAB OF ToTmrHAM. — I flhaU be very much 
obliged if any of your readers can tell me if the 
Vicar of Tottenham, with some other beneficed 
clergyman of the Church of England, had some 
prescriptive right to perform the burial service of 
any ilhistrioua person in England they may 
choose. Noraa. 

SbpulcbAaxi yBBsa8.^Among what Gray calls 
the '^nuooutih rhymes ** whwh used to deck the 

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tombs of our forefathers, was the following 
oouplet — as old at least as the reign of James 
the First: — 

** All FUsh is grass : both Tonag and Old most dye, 
And ao w« go to Judgement bxe-and-bjre.** 

This was probablj oDce sufficientlj common : 
but I should be glad to be supplied with any re- 
maining examples of it J. 6. N. 

Sm RooBB WiLBRAHAM, Survejor of the Court 
of Wards and Liveries, and sometime Solicitor- 
General of Ireland, who died 19th July, 1616, 
and is buried at Hadley in Middlesex, left three 
daughters. Elizabeth, the second, married Sir 
Thomas Wilbraham, of Woodhey, in Cheshire, 
Kni}{ht and Baronet. We desire information 
touching the other daughters and their mother. 
A copj of the inscription on Sir Roger Wilbra- 
ham*s monument at Uadley would also be accept- 
able to C. H. & Thompson Coopkb. 


Dk. Wm. Worship. — At a recent sale of Arch- 
bishop Tenison*8 library, a book was sold with 
this title, vis. The CkriMtian*$ JeweU, or ike Trea- 
stire of a Oood Conscience, by William Worship^ 
Doctor of DivtMthe, printed 1617. The book is 
dedicated to ** The Right Honorable Sir Francis 
Bacon, Knight, Lord Keeper of the Great Seale, 
mj yerj singular ffood Lord,** &c. ^ And the dedi- 
cation finishes with ** Your Lordahip*s most bonn- 
den and dutiful! Chaplaine, William Worship.** 
The book is full of learned references, and ex- 
tracts given in the quaint stjle of the time. The 
dedication is curious, and speaks of Lord Bacon 
as having *^ hitherto esteemed of silver, as of time ; 
and contemned the wedge of Gold, which so manj 
Idolaters doe crouch ta*' 

Can jou, or anj of your readers, give an ac- 
count of this William Worship, D.D. ? 

I believe Lord Baoon had a Ions ancoession of 
chaplaihs. CHAHXiBS Johh Pa£msb. 

Graat Tarmouth, 

Dbath of Lord Frakcis Vcllisrs. — Is the 
position of Lord Francis (being attacked bj three 
troopers) an imagination of the artist., or a fact P 
And what work will give the particulars of this 
encounter ? S. S. 

[Lloyd, in bis Mtmoirm of the Una, ^., of ExcfOaU 
Fermmagea, foL 1668, p. 678, has furnished the foUowiog 
particnlars of this Dobleman : <* The Right Hon. the Lort 
Francis YilHers (brother to his Grace Uie Ihike of Back- 
ingham), the comeliest man to see to, and the most hope- 
ful to converse with in England, slain for refdsine quar- 
ter at Comb-Park, JnlyJ, 1648, et. aan 19. He was 
born Ap. 2, on M sandy Thnrsday, 1629, and christened 
bv my Lord of Canterbury Land, Ap, 21, the same year. 
The sweetness of his temper, the vostness of his parts 
and abilities, the happiness of hia edocaaan. and his ad- 

mirable beaotv, which had charmed the i 

to a civility, being the occasion of the enemies beastly 

usage of him, not fit to be mentioned.*' 

Aobrey (Hiai. of Surrey, i. 46.) has given the follow- 
ing account of the death of Lord Francis YilUers : — ** Is 
this parish [Kingston>apon-Thamea] in the lane between 
Kvngston and Sathbyton Common, waa alain the beauti- 
fnl Francis Yilliora, at an elm in the hedge of the east 
side of the lane, where hia horse being killed under him* 
be turned hia back to the elm, and fought moat Taliantly 
with half a doaen. This elm was cut down 1680. (Sea 
his Elsgy in print, intituled VaHeumim Vaiioum ad 

Oarolum Saemndmm. Printed by , the Kin^a 

Binder, by Grey Friara. There are Poema in 8vo, wherein, 
amongst other things, ia a good Elegy on thia Lord 
Francla Villien.) The enemy coming on the other aid» 
of the hedge, poshed off his helmet, and killed him July 
7, 1648, about aix or seven o'clock in the afternoon. Cm 
this elm was cut an iU-shaped Y for Yillien^ in memory 
of him." 

Brian Fairfax's account of this event slightly varies 
from the foregoing (Jlfcaioirs of the Ddb ofBrnehmghewir 
4to. 1768, p. 27.) ** My Lord brands, at the bead of hia 
troop, bavins bis horse slain under him, got to an oak 
tree in the nigh way about two milea from Kingston, 
where he stood with his back against it, defending him- 
self, scorning to ask quarter, and tbev barbaroualy re- 
fusing to give it ; till, with nine wounds in his beautilUL 
fsce and body, he was slain. The oak tree is his monuu 
ment, and has the two first letters of his name, F. Y., cut. 
in it to this day. Thua died thia noble, valiant, and! 
beautifal youth, in the twentieth year of hia age."] 

St. Wixxiam*8 Day. -—In the OoUen Legemi 
we hare an account of St William, who is^ stated 
to have been canonised by Pope Honorius th& 
Third. What day in the Calendar was dedicated 
to this Saint P 

In the Honour of the TayUmrs, 4to, London, 
1687, It is sUted that St Gulielmns' day wa» 
especially observed by the Company of Merchant 
Tailors ; but I believe that the frreat festivals of 
that corporation are now St Barnabas and St. 
John Baptist From a passage in the same work^ 
there seems some ground for concluding that 
St William's day was identical with the Feast ot 
St Crispin ; but the language gives rise to some* 
uncertainty, and I should be glad to have thee 
question resolved upon satisfactory authority. 

R. a Q. 

[It is St William, or a Wilhelmua, the Danish aaint,. 
who was canoniaed by Pope Honorius III. ** Honoriua 
Papa in., cum de ^us vita mandasset diligenter inqnirii 
.... retuiU eum mter Statetoe^^AeL Sand, vol i. (for 
April), p. 621. His day is April 6th. Can theta be any^ 
conAision of April 6th and April 8th ? The latter, ao-^ 
cording to the Act. Sand, is St Martin's day; and St. 
Martin was not only propitiooa to tailora, <*aartonimi 
patronua,** but was himself originally a tailor : — 
*' Martinus iacet hie, Milea, Eremita. beataa ; 
Sartor qnippe fuit, nunc Pater dicitnr artis.** 

Such indeed waa the benevolence of St Martin, that 
when he had strangers lodging with him, he used to sit. 
up at night to mend their dothea, ** dormlentium aootu- 
reficiebat veatea." (A. pp. 806, 807.) The aaint Ia 
question was not the celebrated St Martin of Tonra^ 
originally of Ancona, he became an anchorite^ and took 
up hia abod^ op the «sa-«9iMt, at Peggfai near Geooa^ 

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Ufa eannot truce any ooiroeztoa of tailoTB either with 
the aboTe-mentioned St William, or with another, also 
eanoniaed hj Hoooriua III., whoee day is Jsnnary 10.] 

St. Swithir'i Dat. — la it on the 14th or 15th 
July? Henrjr Bourne, in his AnHjuiiuies Vid' 
gores (p. 162, ed. 1725), says it is the 14th. 
This mombg a very learned Roman Catholic 
priest tells me it is the 15th. Which is the day ? 

Fba. Mbwbubh. 

[Bourne is oat in his reckoniDg. Alban Butler in* 
forms US that <*St Swithin is commemorated in the 
Soman Martyrology on the 2nd oi Jnly, which was the 
day of his death ; but his chief festlTal in England was 
on the l&th of the same month, the day of the transla- 
tion of his reHcsL" In Briiamnia Sanettu or lA« UveM of 
the moot eeMrtOed BHHmA, SooHiah, and Irish SamtM, 4to^ 
1745, St Swithin is eommemorated on July 2nd. Who 
was the compiler of this nsefbl work ?] 

AuaAHDBB Stephkns. — Doubtless there are 
many of your readers who, like myself, were 
readers of the old Monthly Magazine in its palmy 
days, edited by Sir Richard Phillips. They pro- 
bably well recollect a series of articles appearing 
in it under the title of ^ Stepbensiana.*^ The 
first number appeared in Oct. 1821, and were 
continued until AujiuBt, 1824, when they were 
discontinued, probably because (if I recollect 
aright) Sir Ricnard about that time sold the ma- 
gazine. There were thirty numbers altogether. 

When announcing the publication of the first 
number, the editor made the following state- 
ment : — 

'< The late Alexander Stephens, of Park House, Chelsea, 
devoted an active, and well-spent life in the collection of 
anecdotes of his contemporaries, and generally entered in 
a book the coUectlons or the passing day. These collec- 
tions we have purchased, and propose to present a selec- 
tion of them to oar readers. As editor of the Anmud 
Obitmary^ and many other biographical works, he may 
probably have incorporated many of the scraps, but the 
greater part are unpublished, and all stand alone as 
cabinet pictares of men and manners, worthy of a place in 
a literary misceUany.** 

• I should like to know, through your columns, 
something more of Mr. Stephens*s history, and 
also wheuier these ana were ever collect^ in a 
volume. They contain many profound thoughts 
and just observations, and also a great many anec- 
dotes of celebrated men. The author was a phi- 
losopher and a scholar, evidently of considerable 
mark; and holding liberal vi^s when Toryism 
was rampant, and reform at a discount. He was 
on terms of intimacy with the most noted men of 
bis time, whether as statesmen, philosophers, or 
authors, and a great number or the anecdotes 
which are to be found in his '* Stephensiana,** I 
hare not seen anywhere else. Stlyahus. 

[AJezander Stephens was bom at Elgin abont 1757, 
and educated at the University of Aberdeen. At the m 
of twenty-one he entered as a member of the Middle 
Temple. In 1792, he married ICiss Lewin, daughter to 
Samnel Lewin, Ssq. of Bnadfield Hoose^ Hertfordshire. 

'His earliest production was JamaUtik a descrintive poem ; 
and the next a kind of law journal, entitled The Templar. 
His most approved works are the Hittory of the Waart 
which aroae out of the FVench Eevobttion^ 2 vols. 4to, 1808 ; 
a Life of John Home Tooke^ 2 vols. 8vo, 1816 ; and Pub^ 
lie Characters, first published in 8 vols. 12mo, 1828. The 
industry of Mr. Stephens in the collection of biographioid 
notices has not often been surpassed. The pages of 7^ 
Analytical Beoiew^ and The Monthly Magazine contain 
many vsluable articles from his pen. Mr. Stephens died 
at Park House, Chelsea, on Feb. 24. 1821, and was in- 
terred in the new bnrisl ground. — Vide Faulkner's Cftef- 
Mo, i. 161.] 

EmoHTs HospiTALLBBs. — What was the name 
of the founder of this Order of Knighthood ? Some 
account of him may be of general interest. 

M. A. P. 

[The origin of this remarkable instittttion, which rose 
to celebrity by martial achievement, may be traced to 
purposes of pious and practical benevolence. Hugh 
Clark, in his fftttory of Knighthood, ii. 57, informs us, 
that *<when the Holy Land b«ffsn to grow famous by 
the expeditions of Christian Princes, this Order of the 
Hospitallers bad its beginning, or rather rentoration. by 
Girardus ; for the original is attributed to Johannes Hir- 
canos Machabeus, or, John, Patriarch of Alexandria, 
who^ fbr his liberality to the poor, was sumamed Rlee- 
moeynarins." Long belbre the era of the Crusadem. some 
Italian merchant purchased a license from the Musnl- 
man rulers of Jerusalem to found in that city an Hospi- 
tal, together with a Chapel, which they dedicated to St 
John the Eleemosynary, for the relief and wayfkring en- 
tertainment of sick and poor pilgrims. An interesting 
account of John, Patriarch of Alexandria is given by 
Alban Butler, in his Xtest of the SaiiUs, Jaanaiy 28.] 


— Can any correspondent assist me in ascertain- 
ing the meaning of the abbreviations used in 
Cottonian MS., Claudius, c. viii. The MS. is 
entitled ''Hseredes ex variis Recordis selecti.** 
I subjoin an entry, and should be glad if anyone 
would decipbev the abbreviations employed in the 
reference : — *• Willm. Key I way, armigeri, filii et 
hseredis Johis Eeylway, militis defuncti, liberatio. 
2p.o. l.E.r.blS.'* C. J.R. 

[Our correspondent has made an error in his transcript 
In the original MS., after « liberatio," read thus: 1 p. O. 
1. £. 6. r. 68, L e. 1 Pars Original. 1 £dw. VI. RotuL 68.] 


(1*S. viii. 4820.) 
In "* N. & Q."* a Query appeared respectinff 
the pedigree of William Steele, who was Lora 
Chancellor of Ireland under the Cromwells, and 
asking whether any of bis descendants were in 
existence. Being of the same family, and there- 
fore naturally interested in the inquiry, I pro- 
ceeded to collect all ayailable particulars respecting 

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He was bom at Sandbaoh, in Chesbire, in a* 
moated bouse called Giddj Hall, long sinoe re- 
mored. He was tbe eldest son of Richard Steele 
of Sandbacb, who was bimseif tbe second son of 
Thomas Steele, of Weston, in tbe same countj. 
William was earlj removed by bis father to 
Finchley, in Middlesex, where be resided in 16S1, 
the year of bis admission into Qra/s Inn. He 
was called to tbe Bar in 1637, and was returned 
Member of Parliament for the port of Bomsey in 
1640. In consequence of the zeal be dis^yed in 
aU the proceedings against tbe lAng, ne early 
secured tbe favoar of Chromwell and tbe Parlia- 
ment, by whom sereral high offices were conferred 
upon bun. Thus be was appointed Attorney^ 
General for the Commonwealth; Recorder of 
London ; Chief Baron of the Exobequer in Eitf- 
land; and, lastly, Lord Chancellor of Ireland, 
which nost be filled until tbe Restoration. He 
marrieu Elizabetb Godfrey, by whom be had one 
son Richard. According lo another authority 
(Koble's Cromuf€Us)y be was married (probably a 
second time) to tbe widow of Michael Harvey, tbe 
youngest son of Dr, William Harvey, the dis- 
coverer of the circulation of the blood. He died 
in Dublin, and was buried in St. Werburgb*s 
churchyard in that dty. His son Richard, also a 
member of the Bar, was admitted into tbe King's 
Inns, Dublui, on the 11th June, 2667; and was 
subsequently appointed by tbe Duke of Ormond 
as bis private secretary. He had ona son also 
named Richard, afterwards tbe celebrated Sir 
Richard Steele, who was bom at Dublin on tbe 
12tb March, 1671 ; respecting whom tbe follow- 
ing entries exist in tbe Books of tbe Charter 
House, London ; for which information I am in- 
debted to tbe kindness of tbe present Principal of 
that institution: —"Nov. 17* 1684. Richard 
Steel, admitted for tbe Duke of Ormond ** (i. e. 
nominated by him) ; "aged ISyeaxa, on 12* March 
last** ; and " Nov. 1**, 1689, ]£cbard Steel elected 
to the University." Sir Richard Steele, it u well 
known, was married twice: first to a lady of 
Barbadoes (probably a relation of tbe Godfreys, 
his grandmother's family, who appears to have 
bad property in Barbaaoes) ; and secondly, to 
Miss Mary Scurlock, bv whom he bad one son 
who died young, and three daughters — one of 
whom, Elizabeth, was married to B^ma Trevor, who 
left but one daughter named Diana. Hence this 
branch of the family became extinct. The second 
brother of Lord Chancellor Steele was named 
Lawrenoe, who was one of the clerks of the Lub 
House of CoramoDs between the years 1669 and 
1679. From him have descended the " Steeles of 
Rathbride,** whose pedigree is given in detail in 
Burke's Lastded Oeniry, of which fknily I am a 
member. Of George Steele, the third brother of 
the Chancellor, nouing whatever appears to be 
known. * Wm. Edw. Stbbi*, M.D. 


(2»* S. xL 466.) 

I send, for tbe information of C. B. Y., an ori- 
ffinal letter which has been in my possession for 
the last thirty yean. It does not appear to whom 
it was addressed, the cover not being with the 
letter. C. J. 

** Dr. DocroB, 

** Inform'd, when at Rosa, that it's renown'd Benefac- 
tor, Mr. Kyila, was to have a Monvmeat erected to hie 
Ifemory, I aAtampled, aa I hitely ntnm'd from theBee,to 
oonpooe an Inacription for it, and acoompUih'd my Ua- 

««With what Skill 'twUl not become Me to say.— 
However tia plain, aa yon'l mtb, and anaflteted, as waa 
the Qentleman 'twas intended for: and ootnprehenda^ If I 
mistake not, notwithatandtaig 'tie oondse^ the capital and 
most striking Lineaments ofhis Character. 

** Snch as His, I humbly offer it to the Memory of that 
worthy Man : and tho' twon'd give ne no small Pleasure 
to have it approved of bv yoa and other Jndgea of Com* 
MBltieii, vet conaoioos of the InlMoritv of my Taste aa a 
Writer, snail onrepinbigly acquiesce^ if another be jadg'd 
more eligible. 

** Bat as Mr. Kyrle was a Ross-man, and the Statuary 
Is so, thiidc it to be wished, that the Inscriber were a 
Rosa-man likcrwiae. 

** Up then. Doctor, or i«ther down to your Pen on tUs 
Bubiect. For who ia adequate to the Task but your* 

** Cou'd we prevail so fkr, we shond expect something 
Masterly and worthy Attention : something to convince 
the World that, as Roes has produced one Man lllmtrious 
ibr Benefioenoe and public optrit, another an Inganloos 
Statuary, so 't has an able, nay excellent Compooer to 

- But perhaps Pve gone too iter. — Shall therefore now 
return to obeerve, as to the Inscription Fve drawn up, 
that I coud have put it in a Poetical Dress : but, appre- 
hending that to be too gawdy and affected fbr a Man of 
Mr. Kyrle's plain Manners, spared myself that Labour. 

"There are two Lines of Mr. Pope very expressive: 
the latter — Prov*d by the Rods of being to have been. — 
But they are not, I think, proper fbr an Inscription, fbr 
the Reas'n I've giv'n, and fbr another very substantial 
one : vie*, that they convey too general an Idea of Mr. 
Eyrie, and leave too much to the Imagination of the 
Bender*— The Inscription shou'd in my opbiioo, enter 
mora particularly into his Charaeter. 

** And now reasonably presuming, I've throoghly tir'd 
yon, take my Leave, and remain. Dr. Doctor, 

Yr obUg'd and meet Humble Servt, 

**Jomr Lbwis. 

^Ludlow, Jane sard, -72. 

* J%»In$cHptim, 
«<If there ever was a Man of atrict Promts' 

and of plain, but engaging Mannem 

If of disinterested as well as diskinguish'd 

Ilospitality, Beneficence and publick Spirit. 

If ever Man was studious to oblige 

both his own and sAer times ; 
'Snoh was John Kvrie^ Eaqaire: 

Who living waa we oraaasent, 
and dead, is the Immortal Honour 
of this Town. 
" P.S. The 5th line might stand thus — If ever man 
was happily stufious. 
«* The 6th thus —to oblige his own, && • 
« If the Inscription bo too prolix ; imder a IhH-length 

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8tetM» 'twould lieffcfficieoi to bc^ at -^ Sacb was ^hn 

"But I think the wbxtU pirefMble : as his Bereral £z- 
celleDcieB are therein aimnMrated; andhiaOharacterittidE 
'^rtnee* hk Beoafloanea and Pablick Spirit, are liiaiaiii 
pointed out^ in the Genaia], without a portioBUu: Beaig- 
nation of the objeota thmr were exercie'd about In w«^ 
lattar drcamatance Mr. rope has err'd, according to vonr 
accoant ; tiio' through MiBinlbrmation Candour woua in- 
cline ona to suppose." 

(3»*S.». 368$ xH. 15.) 

Tour c oai ' Mpo ndcnt H. B. €. faae given a aai- 
aible replj to ue abeund BtalemeDt c^ the irrlter 
in the Genmd Magtame lor October, 17ff9, tbftt 
"CalderoB tried regular plays atfint." Calderoa, 
moYing in the fetters of clawical and French fri- 
gidity, would be a curiosity indeed. Fortunately, 
be never attempted anything ao foreign to his free 
and original genius. 

With regard to El Carro del Cielo^ written 
when he was litik more than thirteen yean of 
age accor^ng to the Pamoy Vida y Euritos de D. 
Pedro Ccdderon de la BarcOy prefixed by Keil to 
his edition of the Comedias (Lelpzic, 1827-30), 
and inadyertently quoted by your correspondent 
ae if written by Eeil himBelf, H. fi. C. inquires 
if it has been preeenred f Unfortimately it has 
not. The drama, with others — one of ttiem at 
least of perhaps still greater interest, the Don 
Qmzote — were intended by Vera Tasis to form a 
testii, or sup^emental yolume to 'kiB edition of 
the Comedias, Madrid, 1682-91, iz. tomes, 4to, 
which has never ajipeared. Two or three of the 
nussing dramas have been recovered, and pub- 
iiahed by SeSor Hartzenbusch in his admirable 
edition of Calderon*a ComedMU,' Madrid, 1848-^M ; 
but Ei Carro del Cielo and Don Quixote are as 
yet unknown. 

" El Ccarro dd Oido^* says Senor Hartzenbusch, «era 
una de las trece oomadiaa eon ^ue ¥era (Tasis) se habia 
propuesto formar el tomo x. de las de Calderon, que no 
ne^ i yer la luz puUica. Hoy pecmanece desconocida." 
— T. iv. p. 661. 

Although El Carro del Cielo has not been pre- 
served, a perhaps atlU greater curiosity is given in 
the ed^Uon of Senor Hartzenbuaoh, namdy, a 
drama to which Calderon contributed the ^ird 
Act, he/ore he had oompleted his eleventh year! 
This is El Mefor Amiga el Muerto ; the First Aet 
of which was written by Luis de Belmonte, the 
Second bv Don Francisco de Ro^as, and the Third 
by Don Fedro Calderon. From mtemal evidence, 
this drama must have been repreaented.on Christ- 
mas Eve, kjD, 1610, when Calderon wanted twenty- 
three days of bein^ eleven ^ears of a^. The 
earliest Known edition of this drama, is in the 
Parie nana de Comediae escogidaa de loe Mefores 
lugemoe de EepafiOj printed at Madrid in the 

year 16^7 ; but from the stamx de Iteenoioy pve- 
nxed to the vohmie, it is evident that it had TOen 
printed previously. Its title is as foHows : — 

'< El Hejor Amigo el Muerto ; comedia famosa de tres 
iogenios : la primera jomada, de Luis de Belmonte ; la 
segunda, de Don Francisco de Bojas ; la tercera, de Don 
Pedro Calderon." 

Senor Hartzenbusch, who prints the drama in the 
4th volume of his edition (p. 471), aUuding to the 
singularity of two writers of established reputa* 
tion permitting a child to join them in the pro- 
duction of a cu*ama, suggests that probably they 
were friends of his fkther ; or that either of them 
might have been the youn^ poet*s tutor, and re- 
viMd or corrected the boyish effort of his pupil. 
Be this as it may, we have in this drama the 
earliest specimen of Calderon's dramatic talent : 
in which your original correspondent J. A. A. 
win find very little to support tiie assertion of the 
General Maeazine^ that ** Calderon tried regular 
plays at first. ' D. F. MacCabtht. 


(2»d S. xii. 28.) 

If Memos will look into that truly valuable 
and delightful book The Lives of the Bishops of 
Exeter atid the History of the Cathedral^ published 
at the beginning of this year, just before the death 
of its venerable and learned author Dr. Oliver, 
he will learn (p. 100) the mistakes about John 
Cary ever having been bishop of Exeter. 

D. Bocx. 

Brook Green, Hammersmith. 

In answer to Mxmob respectinff James Cary, 
Bidiop of Exeter, or rather not Bishop of Exeter, 
in the late Dr. CNiver^s recently published work, 
the Bishops of Exeter, p, ^, we read under tiie 
head John Catterick : '— 

** When tiie bunness of the Gonnoil was oyer he ac- 
eonpanied Pope Martin V. towards Borne, and whilst 
the Papal coart made sone sUy at Floreooe, inteUigeace 
reached Hia HoUnass of the death of our aged Bishop 
Stafford, and he immediately nominated Dr. Catterick to 
the vacant see of Exeter, and on the same day (20 No- 
vember) William Heyworth Abbot of St. Albans. {Not 
James or John Cary, as Godwin supposes.) * 

Here, in a foot-note, Dr. Oliver says : — 

" We are satisfied that this John or James Caiy was 
neoer appointed to the see of Exeter. Leland very pro- 

eirly omits his name in the Ibt which he gives of our 
ishope (ffin. vol. iii. p. 61), and so does Sir WflUam 
Pole (Deterip, of Dmnm, p. 80) to Liebileld and Ckyvsntiy. 
But oor prelate never li?«d to see his new diooeae; at« 
tacked by mortal ilhiesiu he departed this life on the 
28th of the following month, December, 1419, and his 
remaina were deposited under the central dome of the 
Franciscan church de Santa Groce at florence. A bean- 
UM model of his white marble slab thnre represaatiBg 

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the bishop in his pontificals bts been brought OTsr by 
>kTchd««coii Bartholomew Toy recantlj, and depoiitod in 
our Cbaptor HoaB«i''&c 

Edw. PAmriTT. 

Mfmok wishes particolarlj to know in what 
church he (James Carj) was buried ; and if there 
be any monument of memorial of his death, 
bishop Ketterich was buried under the central 
dome of the church of Santa Croce at Florence. 
A white marble slab covered his remains ; on this 
the bishop was represented in his pontificals. A 
model of the same was, some time since, brought 
to England bj Archdeacon Bartholomew, and 
deposited in the Chapter-house at Exeter. The 
inscription is as follows : *- 

** Hie jacet Dooiinns Joannes Cattrick, Episcopns qnoD- 
dam Exoniensia, Ambassiator Serenlssimi Domini Reids 
Angli», qui obiit xxviii. die Decembris, anno Dni. 
xcoccxix. Cujus animiB propitietnr Dens.** 

The arms on the monument^ according to Las- 
sells in his Voyage to Italy ^ 1650, are ** Sable, three 
cats argent** Johh Williams. 

Amo's Oonit. 

[We have also to thank A J. Taix and other oorre- 
epondents for similar references to Dr. Oliver's work. — 

(2-« S. xi. 865, 414, 462.) 

As you have not published the letter I sent to 
your office in answer to that of A Statiohxb, and 
also to an LL.D. who, instead of quietly confining 
himself to an opinion on a point of law, rushed 
into persanaUiiet quite unjustified by circum- 
stances, for no letter was addressed to him unless 
he be the Statiohbk in disguise, who, in his arro- 
gance, dared to say that I was ignorant of the 
first principles of composition — I wish to know 
whether the LL J), or Statiohxb mean to assert 
that by our improying certain monuments in 
Wraysbury church (which we, as a family acting 
in unison, were entitled to do without the inter- 
ference of any one) we hare fabified them. 

If that be mtended, we consider the allegation 
/aUe and taiurtoics, and unless we haye an unequi- 
yocal denial, we shall refer the case to our legal 
adyiser. The entire object of the Statiokxb was 
to insult our family, and to impute motiyes, which 
was enough to incite to resentment. 

If he had politely said that we had caused one 
letter to be substituted for another, which did not 
change the sound of the name, and had put in a 
Christian^ name where the title of a ciyic honour 
was inscribed, whereby the party was more clearly 
identified — ^for Mr. Alderman A. may be anybody — 
it had been well and harmless, and no such letter, 
which he texms acrimonious^ had been written. " 

You gave, in a note to my letter, an opinion 
that the question was not touched. Now, Sir, I 
wish to ask you or the LL.D., if any law is yio- 
lated, and if a family has a right to msoribe on a 
monument that A. or B. were Deputy-Lieut, Ma- 
gistrates, M.F., or High Sherifis ? and if so, if 
a partj is termed Alderman where his proper de- 
signation would be Lord Mayor, the family may 
not legally and judiciously alter it ? 

We stand impeached with hrealkxw a 2ato, and 
by implication with fMfying a lapidary inscrip- 
tion. We wish to know if theee hnputations are 
meant either by LL.D. or the SrAHonsB ; for if 
they are, let the case be tried before proper tri- 
bunal, or else let us haVe a denial. If I do not 
hear from you I shall send the family lawyer to 
meet this charge. Gobdon Gtll. 

7, Lower Seymonr Street, Portman Square. 

[We hare printed the preceding letter exactly as it 
stands in the original. The oommnnication which Mr. 
Gvll now reproaches ns for not having published is one 
which, to nse his own words, he committed to our jadg- 
ment. In onr Nodca io Oorr e ipcmdemU on the 29th 
nUimo, we explained onr reasons for not publishing it 
** MoNUMKKTAL IxscKiPTioNs. As WO desirs to avold 
as much as possible anj intermixture of personal matters 
with this important question, we have not inserted the 
last communication which has reached us on this sub- 
ject." This was Mr. Gyll's letter. We did not de- 
scribe it more particularly, not wishing to connect that 
gentleman's name unnecessarily with the question. We 
were sure that that letter would provoke further corre- 
spondence, and that the result could not be satisfactoiy 
to Mr. Gyll. We think if he had consulted the *" fitmily 
lawyer * or any discreet friend, he would have been ad- 
vised to let the matter rest If Mr. Gvll wishes it that 
letter shall still appear. We are not called upon to give 
any opinion as to the lepaNty of Mr. Gyll's proceedings at 
Wrayshnrr, the " family lawyer" may be consulted upon 
that point! Of the pmprkty of thoee proceedings there 
appear to be two opinions: Mr. Gyll holds one; all lovers 
or historical truth, we believe, hold another and a very 
diilerent one.] 


(2»* S. xii. 21.) 

I suspect that the most we can allow to the 
printer of the Orange tract of 1681 referred to 
by J. M., is a near relationship to the Aberdeen 
Raban. J. M. appears to be right in assigning to 
the latter a continental origin instead of an Eng- 
lish one, as previous writers have assumed. I 
have beside me a copy of — 

** A Prognostication for this Teare of our Redemption 
1625, being the next after Leape-yeare ; Serving for the* 
whole Kingdome of Scotland, but more espedallie, and 
according to Kaban's bound duetie, for the Latitude and 
Meridian of the Honourable Citie of Aberdeoe. Im- 
printed at Aberdene by Edward Baban for David Melvill, 

It contains, after the fashion of such almanacs, 
** A Declaration of sncb Casualties as are lykli$ to 

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fall out this present jeare 1625,** and among 
others the following : — 

** Kiiun and princes shall be at stryfe with the Church ; 
and the Kings shall prevajle. But if our jocund Papists 
get anie distorlMuice, they are not the Church that is 
meant here. — As for my boldnesse in but tonchinglthe 
Beast, I crave pardon in two respects : First, because this 
was written In the yeare of their Jabilie ; for it is sayde 
that then they deale out mountains of mercie. (But if 
their mercie oee for money, I am to seelce.) Seoondlie, 
I crare my pardon even for Pope Joanna her Holines 
sake, in respect ake wom wuf native eotmttywowum, and was 
delivered of a goodlle childe in the streetes of Borne, 
going on procession." 

That it 18 the printer Baban, and not his book- 
seller Melrill who n>eak8 is certain, from the con- 
cluding words of this PrcMrnoatication, occurring 
immediately after a List or Fairs : — 

'<Thns fare yee well, yee Chapmen, full merrie may 
yee make. For without Clupmen there could bee no 
merchands. But whosoever wui proove Deacon amongst 
^ou, I request him to let me have a Copie of these Fayres 
m more perfect order against the next yeare, that all 
Confusion may bee eschewed for your advantage, while, 
as ye have the Printer at command, even 

Your owne Baframu." 

The particulars of the scandalous story alluded 
to by Baban are given by Matthias rrideaux 
^fUroducHan for Beading ail Sorts of Histones^ 
Oxford, ed. 1664), who mentions **John the 
Eight, otherwise termed Pope Joan, a lass of 
Mentz in Grerman^r.** For a printer, no birth- 
place more appropriate could be imagined. 

Baban*8 Aberaeeu Prognostications commence 
with ^e year 1623, being the first of those annual 
publications which suggested the not very com- 
plimentary password inRedgauntlet — ** A Plague 
on all Aberaeen Almanacs I His death, in 1^9, 
has been perhaps too hastily assumed. If the 
mere appointment of his successor be the ground 
for the assumption, the following excerpt from the 
Aberdeen CoineU Register^ under date 9 January, 
1650, may enable your readers to judge : — 

"The said day the Provost, Baillies, and Counsell re- 
ceavit and admittit James Browne, IsQchU sone to Mr. 
Wm. Browne, Minister at Invemochtie, Printer of this 
Burgh, m place of Edward Rabai^ during the Counseile's 
pleasure ulanerhe, and to the lyk.casualtie and benefit 
off the towne as the said Edward Raban had the tyme 

I have not had an opportunity of referring to 
the university records for any similar entry ; out 
in the meantime £dward Raban's death in 1649 
may be considered an open question. Without 
taking such an event for granted, sufficient reason 
remains for his ceasing to exercise his craft in 
Aberdeen after that year. So far as regards pub- 
lications on the Royalist and High Church side, 
his occupation must have been well nigh gone. 
If the name appearing on the Orange tract of date 
1656 and 1681 be that of one and the same per- 
son (and this is the natural supposition), he cannot, 
without much straining, be identified with the 

Aberdeen printer. I see the dedication to the 
Orange autnorities is signed ** £. Raban.** In the 
Aberdeen municipal regbter, under date 1641, 
there is found the autograph signature " Edward 
Raban,** the only such relic of the printer known 
to exist. The writing is very stiff. N. Cltmb. 

Lieut-Colonel William Raban, retired full pay, 
of the 22nd Regiment of the Line, might perhaps 
be able to answer some of J. M.*8 questions, if he 
should not consider them impertinent. 

K E. Raban came originalljr from the Low 
Countries (the Netherlands), it can hardly be 
said that, in going from Scotland to Orange, he 
was actually returning to the " Forum Originis.** 
Orange, although connected through its rrince 
with the Netherlands, was some hundreds of 
miles distant. Colom£l H. Climtov. 

Boyston, Herts. 

Captain Riohabd Dowsn (2** S. xH. 49.) — 
''Capt. Rd. Dowse. Born 1760. Sacrificed 
1794.** Such seems to be the sad inscription on 
a mourning ring still presenred to his memory. 
I think the expression ^ sacrificed ** fiur too mar- 
tyr-like to be as truthful as research might make 
it. Ail allowance must be made for the feelings 
of families, who, looking at events in which they 
are concerned through a personal medium* ex- 
cusablv magnify ordinary deaths into sacrifices ; 
but while we offer them the resjpect their sorrows 
demand, we are not precluded Irom judging how 
far tilieir yiews, as in this case, correspond with 

The authorities quoted in the article referred 
to are good as &r as they go, but a far better 
and directer one can be adduc^ in Lieut-General 
Dumford, R.E., whose narratire of ^ Scenes in 
an Officer's early Life at Martinique, Guadaloupe, 
&c during the years 1794 and 1795 ** is given in 
the UnitSi Service Journal for August, 1850, pp. 

Victor Hugues did not put any English troops 
to the guillotine. Durnford writes : — 

''Above one hundred n^oHatSt who had fooght in our 
ranks . . . being mede to kneel along one of the redoubts 
. . . were deliberately shot, and baried, dead or alive. . . . 
My regimental coat.'^he continues, *'very similar to that 

wom by French engineers caught the eye of the 

commissioners, and they almost insisted on my being 
carried to the guillotine that was erected in the market- 
place, where several poor rojfoiitU were daily murdered 
by that faUl engine.'* 

Bemg able to speak French only imperfectly, 
acted as a "potent certificate** in Durnford's 
favour. His English tongue, if his uniform had a 
French appearance, saved hiin. The rovalists (of 
whom six were assistant engineers to the British 
expedition) ^were Frenchmen. 

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This perhaps is enough to show that Captain 
Dowse waa not sacrificed. He fell a prey, in fact* 
to the prevailing ycljow fever, after he had be- 
<x>me a prisoner at Goadaloape, by capitulation, 
on the ftth October, 17d4. On Captahi Dowae's 
illness and death, Dumford writes : — 

** I had to return to my negro hut, where I lived with 
my commanding officer, Captain Dowse, who soon fell 
siok. ... I was now taken lU, and procartd fMrmiMion 
to Join my esteemed fHend and commanding offloar, then 
at the pomt of death at the French hospital ; but I had 
not been there many days before it was thought expedient 
to cause three or four officers, with mysdfTto return to 
Pointe-a-Pitre. 1 made all the remonstrance In my 
power, perodvlng that my fHend, Gaptain Dowse, was 
evidently dying ; nor did he long survive my removaL*' 

Captain Dowse, then, died a natural death, in a 
hard service ; and this is the sense, I take it, in 
which the expression *' sacrificed ** should be 

As I have in hand a work in which the ooptain 
is to hold a place, I shall feel thankful if his de- 
scendants or friends will kindly favour me with 
any particulars of his life, and of the date of his 
death. M. S. R. 

Brompton Barracks. 

Sib Richabd Polb, K.G« (S^ S. zii. 54.)— 
Your correspondent, Mb. HBmniio, may add the 
following to his list of the descendants oi Sir 
Riehard Pole and Margaret Plantagenet : 

Yisoount Barrington, ftom. Thomas Barrington, 
who married Laay Winifired HastingB, grand- 
daughter of Sir Biehard Pole, ILJGt. 

Sir Matthew Blakiston, Bart, Arom (George 
Blakiston of Stapleton, co. York, who married 
Mary Bourchier, ^and-daughter of William Boar^ 
chier, bj Catherine, only daughter of Thomas 
Barrington, aforesaid. C. J. R. 

KiiiQ*8 Abms (2*^ S. xiL 29.) — I cannot an- 
swer the particuliU' Qu^ of F. S., as to the king 
to whom should be assigned the bearings found 
on the tiles he mentions. But the work that he 
suggests, to show the various bearings of our 
kings, is already extant. I refer to R^^l 
Heraldry ; the Armorial Insignia of the Kin^s and 
Queens of England from coeval Authorities^ bv 
Tho. WiUement, F.S.A.. London, 4to, 1821. It 
is much to be desired that the accomplished 
aathor of tiiis valuable work might be induced to 
repuUish this work, with such additional illustra- 
tions of his subiect as he might now supply from 
the heraldic collections which he is Imown to have 
been engaged in forming during the last forty 
years. The six fleurs-de-lys on the church- tile 
show that the coat was intended for one of our 
kings who reigned before the bearings of France 
underwent the change, firom the old charge semU 
de lys to the modem one, three fleurs-de'lys : in 
other words, for one before our Henry V. — since 
*' the Great Seal of this king is the first used by 

our monarchs, in which we find the fleurs'de'lys 
of France reduced to three" {Reg. Her., p. 82). 
The reduction was made bv King Charles Yl« of 
France, the father of Isabel, the second Queen of 
our Richard 11. F. S. notes that the French 
quarterings occupy the more honourable position 
in the shield* But this was the case down to the 
Union of England and Scotland, 1706. Achb. 

Bnira OP Napomom IL (2»'» S. xu. 12.) —The 
following is M. Thiers' aocount of this eventi 
taken from his voluminous work, Histoire du Con* 
stdat et de T Empire, tome xiii. pp. 4, 5. It will 
be seen that the extracts in ''N. & Q" agree, in 
all essential particolars, with M. Thiers ; who may 
be received as a faithful annalist of the eventa oc- 
curring during the period embraced by hb work, 
save and except on the important oocasaons when 
the French and British armies meet in mortal 
conflict in his brilliant but partial narrative : — 

** An miUea das tfv^aamans ai divan et si complion^a 
dimt on viant de lire la rAjit, NapoUon avait vu ae rgOi- 
ser le principal de sea vodux : il avait obtena de la Pro- 
videnoe an b^Uer direct de sa race, un file, aae la 
France ddsrait, et qa*il n'uviut oeis^ auant 2i loi d^esp^- 
zer avec one enti^ conflance dans la fortmie. 

««Le 19 Mars, 1811, vers neaf haures da sxAt, rimp^ 
ratHoa Marie'Loalse, apite warn gronesee heitta«sa» av^t 
reMentileapremi^readottleandereatetemeat ^'^'^ 
accooohaur Daboia etait accouru sar-le-champ. Buivi an 
grand m^ecin de cette epoqtie, M. CorviaarL Bien que 
U jeone m^re fat parfaitement constitn^ raecooene- 
inent ne B*dtaH pas annonc^ avec des drooastaoees Umt 
k fait raMarantav, at M. Dobots n*avait pa se d^fiuidre de 
qneiqaa inqai&ude en sergeant ^ la rasponaabilit^ ^oi 
peaait anr loL Napoleon, voyant, avec sa penetration 
ordioaire, qne le trouble de I'op^^ur pourrait devenir 
un danger pour la m^re ft pour fenfant, s'efforca de Ini 
rendre plus Mger le poida de cette responsabOitd Rga- 
rez-vou, loi dit-il, qua vow aceonches nae marchande 
da la ma Sahit*Deniai von a'y pouves paa davantaa^ 
et en tout caa aaavez d'abocd la mfere. — II chargea M. 
Corviaart de ne pas quitter M. Dubois, et tui-mcme ne 
cessa de prodiguer lea soina les plus tendres 2i la Jetme 
imp^ratrice, et de falder par d'affectnenaes paroles k sap* 
porter sis soaffirancas. Enfla, ie lendeniain matin 30 
Mara, cat enfiint aoqael de ai kaotea deatladea ^taient 
proniaea, et qui d^mla n'a troav^ aw sea paa que Pexil 
et la mort It la dear de aaa ana, vini m jour sane aamm 
des aeoidants qa'on avait red^t^* 

J. Macbat. 

Ctgnet r. SiGNBT : Seal op Robbbt db 
Thobht (2"« S. xi. 511 ; xii. 138.)— I remember 
an instance in this city of the perverted use of 
these words; corroboration, in some degree, of 
the idea broached by Senbx. 

A dapper little, swan-like steamer, of light 
draught, was a few years ^o launched as a plea- 
sure boat on the river Dee, above the causeway 
at Chester. The owner, willing to give It an 
appropriate name, christened it the •* Cygnet ; 
but either he, or the painter, or both, not being 
over well skuled in orthography, had the totally 
different word Signet paintea up in conspicuous 
letters on the paodle-box. The vessel continued 

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to flj for fCTeiml jean under Ma emiitin^ miB* 
nomer ; bnt I noticed the other dny thet Lindlej 
Mumy hn o£ Ute been amplj sresged, and that 
the graceful ^ Cjgnet*' now floats, tn propria per* 
sondf on the placid waten of the Dee. 

T. HnoHM. 

Namihg of Kbw Chubchxs (^^ S. xil. 25.) — 
The questionable praettoe referred to bj J. G. K* 
appears, if our newspaper reports may be de- 
pended on, to have been observed Utely among 
bisaentera — a new feature, certainly, in the his- 
tory of that body. *' St. DaTid's Conmgational 
Churchy*' not a hundred miles from New Cross 
(i{ formally and officially so named), commemo- 
rates one of onr most worthy City aldermen lately 
deceased, who took a prominent part in the open- 
inff ceremony. 

It IB easy to understand why, in the seventeenth 
century, the word Saint was omitted — not only 
in speaking of our metropolitan cathedral; but 
very generally, where tiie ruritan influence pre- 
vailed. St. Neots and St. Ives, were then writ- 
ten "Keoto" and *'Ive8,1 or "Tlves"-, and we 
bare an instance, lihink, in the name of a London 
tborougfafiu-e whieh has .lately obtahied a lament- 
able notoriety — Tooley Street having been ori- 
tmnSiy Sc Okves— then jTOlaves, Tolley*s, and 

The odd suffixes to some of our City Mints' 
namea, have affivded coasiderable amusement to 
many. St. Benet Shere-hog, St« Margaret Fat- 
tens^ St Marr Woolnoth, and others, admit of 
explanation ; but who was St. Peter k Peer ? * 

DouGiiiLa Am^oRT. 

Waxxxb Familt (2^ S. xii,18.) — On what 
Abound does your correspondent call Sir^Tfaomaa 
Wathen Waller, the representatiTeof the Wallers 
of Groombridge P to the exclusion of Harrf Ed- 
mund Waller, Esq., the lineal representative of 
the poet Walter. Sir Thomaa Wathen WaUer, I 
believe, onW bears the name of WaUer as an 
addition to his paternal one of Wathen by Royal 
licence. O^it. 

DxscaiPTiyx Cataix)qub (2"^ S. ix. 403 ; x. 
16 ; xu. 36.) — The only Catalogue that I know 
Oi^ formed upon Mr. Home> plan, is that of the 
library of Miss Richardson Currer, at Eshton 
Hall. It was compiled by Mr. C. J. Stewart, and 
is considered by all who are acquainted with it, 
one of the beat Catalogues in existence. Bnt, 
unfortunatel3r for bibliographers, only 100 copies 
of it were printed (privately in 1838). In con- 
sequence of this, and the estimation held of its 
merits, the present vafaie of the volume (of 500 

* ''SL Petsr le Poor," says Stow, «8o called for a dif- 
ference from other of that name, sometime peradventnrs 
a poor parish, but at this present there be many fldr 
bOMSi^ possessed by rich merchants and others.'*] 

pages) is such as to place it beyond the reach of 
any but long purses. 

but if C. were to have all the Catalosues that 
have ever been printed, he would still mid him- 
self occasioBally at a loss in the claasifioation of 
his own library. The best way to set over a dif- 
ficulty, is to piace the doubtful bo^ under some 
one of the heads which appear appropriate, with 
a reference under any other with whicn it may be 
supposed to have any affinity. G. M. G. 

HouBs, umoTR ov (2^ 8. xi. 517) : Sst ov thx 
OxoLoon. — In most parts of Italy ordinary dock 
time is n6w kept, whioh is popularly called ore 
franoesi. In some remote parts, however, the old 
practice is still in use (particularly in the con- 
vents) of keeping ecclesiastical time, that is, 
dividing the day f^om dawning to dark, into 
twelve equal parts, and the like with the night. 
In the summer solstice at Rome, the day is 15 
hours 6 minutes in length, and each hour of the 
day is really 75 minutes long. The night on the 
contrary is actually 8 hours 54 minutes long, and 
each hour consists of 44 minutes. Contrary, how- 
ever, to the old Roman practice, the first hour 
ecclesiasticfdly is that immediately afler sunset, 
and is counted on to 24 hours, the venti queMro 
corresponding with twilisht. The old clock faces 
(like that at St. Peter's) were divided only into 
SIX parts instead of twelve, and went round four 
times in the day and nieht. This custom of divid- 
ing the natural day and night into twelve equal 
portions, necessitated the setting and regulating 
the clocks every night and morning, except <» 
course at the equinoxes. The hour of prime was 
given out by striking successively three strokes 
on the bell of the prlnoipal church, then fbnr, then 
five, then one sin^e stroke. In all thirteen, re** 
presenting, it is smd, our Saviour and the twelve 
Apostles. Then tyety church set their dock, and 
tolled out the hour. The like was done every 
evening at vesper time. There is Tory little doubt 
that this custom is what is alluded to by lago 
(Othello, Act 2, So.* in.), where he says of 
Cassio — 

« He'll watch the orologe a douUr get 
If drink rock not his oadlo." 

A. A. 
Poets' Comer. 

Inkkbuaivk (2»* S. xi. 410; xil. 85.)— I have 
seen it stated, but on what authority I know not, 
that Inkermann is a word of Turkish origin, sig- 
nifying lower town. The caverns and excavations, 
found in the rocks, are said to have afforded a 
refoge to the Arians in times of persecution. 

F. Phii*ix)tt. 

Caxmnal RtcHMJXu (2-« S. xi. 519.) — With 
reference to the question put to me by Pbab 
Gan fioLus, I do not know that I can do better 
than refer him to Andr^ Dacheane, Histoire 

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OSnialogique de la MaUon Rayale de Dreux. I 
am sorrj that I hare not the work at hand to 

I must howerer obaerre, that the House of 
Dreuz, founded by Bobert, son of Louis YL, be- 
came extinct on the death of Jeanne IL in 1355, 
when the Comle merged in the crown. Mbmob. 

The Bbocab (2»« S. zi. 188.) — Maj not this 
name of the large field and playground at Eton 
be one of the traces of the Northman on the 
Hiames, and hare reference to the crop once 
produced on that bank— ^r^ (Old Norse), tang, 
river, or sea^grass? The «, as a plnhal, mi^ht 
have been bestowed later on the tract or series 
of beds of water-plants found there. 

This suggestion, in reply to the Query of your 
correspondent P., which has elicited no other an- 
swer*, u made with some hesitation, as regarding 
the North. In the North of Ensland many fielcU 
seem to be thus named by one &icriptiYe Norse, 
or Danish word. M. (1.) 

There is an ancient family of ** Brocas ** now of 
Beaurepaere, near Beading, an account of whom 
will be found in any good work on Berkshire, I 

It is a tradition in a family connected with them 
by marriage, that their lands once extended from 
Windsor to Beading, and that the field so called 
at Eton was one of their outlying possessions. 
Hence it was called *Uhe Brocas Field,*' and 
eventually ** the Brocas.** If this derivation be 
correct, Uie title-deeds of Eton CoUege would 
probably verify it. E. C. B. 

Nabcissus Luttbbll (2*' S. xlL 44.^ — Nar- 
cissus Luttrell, son of Francis Luttreli, Esq. of 
London, educated in the school of Sheen in 
Surrey under Mr. Aldrich, was admitted Fellow 
Commoner of S. John*8 College, Cambridge, 17 
Feb. 1673-4, sot. 17. 

He was created M.A. by royal mandate, 1675. 

The silver tankard presented by him to S. John*s 
College was lost, 9 Oct. 1698. (^London Gazette, 
No. 2915.) 

Narcissus, his son, was buried at Chelsea in 
1727. He died at Little Chelsea, after a lin- 
gering indisposition, 27 June, 1732, and was 
buried at Chelsea, 6 July. 

Francis Luttrell, Esq. (who we presume was 
his son) was buried at Chelsea, 3 Sept. 1740. 



"While two of this surname, Simon and Henry 
Luttrell, were Colonels in Kins James*s army in 
the war of the Bevolution in Ireland, and Thomas 
and Robert Luttrell were also attainted as of his 
adherents, this Narcissus espoused the cause of 

[♦ Sw p. 889, in our last volume.] 

King William, and in that character a letter was 
directed to him from Dublin Castle on the 15th 
July, 1691, informing him of the decisive victory 
of Aughrim : — 

*<On this moment we have, by express firom the Gene- 
rals, the happy and blessed news, that on the 12th instant 

our army engaged the Irish ; the combat lasted 

with gnat bravery near three hours; oar men being 
obliged to attack them from trench to trench, which thev 
had thrown np for their advantage, having a bog on both 
sides to cover them. Never was an attack made with 
more bravery and courage, and never was it known that 
the Irish fought with more resolntion.**— See the Rawdon 
Paper$f pp. 869 and 419. 

J. D*Al.TON. 

Thb Tbmpubs Rsgicidbs (2>^ S. xii. 30.)—- 
Mark Noble (Xtves of (he Regteides, voL iL p. 266) 
says that — 

** Sir Peter Temple, Bart, was son and heir of Sir 
Thomas Temple of Stow in BnckiDgbamshire, Bart, by 
Hesther, daoghttfr of Miles Sandys, of Latimer, in Bocks, 

The same work informs hb (voL ii. p. 263), 
that — 

** James Temple, Esq., was a gentleman of Sussex, 
and of a branch of the ennobled Ikmily of that name." 

Noble supposed that he died in the Tower, but| 
as his wont was, gave no reason for his oninion. 

Edward Peacock. 

Edwabd L jjxd Llbwbixth Psimcb of Walbs 
(2"^ S. xii. 9.) — The incident referred to by Gough 
AP Cabadoc is given in Cooke's Topograpkioal 
Desenptian of the Counijf of Oioucetter^ on liie 
authority of Walter MafMsus, and is more ^phic- 
ally described in the words of this historian than 
in the version quoted by your correspondent from 
Mr. Parry's work. The dosing paragraph is as 
follows : — 

"Then" (Leolin) << taking him" (the king) *'n^ 
his shoulders, he made him sit npon his robes» and Join- 
ing hands, did him homage.*' 

As a striking commentary on this act of feudal 
submission, it may be mentioned that a railway 
is, at the present time, in course of completion to 
join the Gloucestershire side of the Severn with 
the Welsh coast by means of steam ferries crossing 
from New Passage, a few miles lower down the 
river than the alx>ve spot, Aust, or Old Passage, 
mentioned in the extract. Hbhkt W. S. TArix>B. 

MATPOI.B8 (2»* S. xii. 11.)— The village of 
Bayton, Worcestershire, near the borders of the 
county of Salop, contains a Maypole, which has / 
been carefully preserved for man^ years by the 
rural inhabitants, and decorated with garlands. 


LoKGBViTT or Ibcumbbrts (qnti passim.) — 
Having often heard of the Ions incumbency and 

S-eat age of the Rev. John Bedwell, formerly 
ector of Odstock, near Salisbury, I have ascer- 
tained at the Bishop's R^btry that he was in« 


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stitnted to that benefice in 1741, and held it till 
1814 — a period of seventjr-ihree years. I find, 
by the Pariflh Register of Odstock, that he was 
buried June 17, 1814, aged 103. W. W. T. 

Watsom's Life op Pobsok : HE1N05 (2»* S. xii. 
27.)— The assertion that Porson '' used the Ionic 
form {fo^f unjustifiably *' is a mistake, because it is 
not merely the Ionic, but the poetical form of the 
word Icjros, it being used, as Damm points out, for 
the sake of the metre. HctWot is found in Pindar, 
Oljftn, ir, 7, vii. 165; J^th. iii. 126, iv. 53, 138, 
173, 210,415 ; ix. 191 ; Nem. vii. 89, 127 ; I^th. ii. 
69, vi.66; in Sophocles, Elect 677, 1125, (Edip. 
Col* 38, 50, 170, 180, 181, 524, 546, 1069, 1153, 
118]; and in Euripides, Elect 247^ Iph, Tour, 
798 ; all of whom, however, make much more fre- 
quent use of ^4^05. There was also the objection 
to use the Attic form in a {cij^c, roOroy 6<ms tlaopift 
nupot^t because in that form it did not merely 
mean ''sCranger,** but also •* a mercenary " (Thuc. 
i. 121, Xen. Anab, i. 1, 10, &c.. Demos. Olym. i. 
15). Conjectural criticism has its limits, and it 
can never be admitted in opposition to the au- 
thority of MSS. The laws of criticism are de- 
ducible from practice. Aristotle could not have 
treated on the Art of Poetry until Poetry had 
long existed and attained perfection as an art 
The same may be said of other arts — Music, 
Painting, and Sculpture. So the unities of Aris- 
totle were essential in the Greek drama ; but they 
are not so on the English stage, where we have 
nearly perfect specimens of art, independent of 
ibe unities. The Examiners in Porson's case had 
no doubt theories of poetrv, by which they tested 
his scholarship, but such theories could not tran- 
scend or supersede the practice of classical an- 
tiquity. They were, therefore, justified in ap- 
proving Porson*8 (fo^c. The pause was not a 
aiscovery of Porson's. Terentianus Maurus says 
it was usual, in reciting iambic verse, to make a 
little pause at the termination of every second 
foot, with an emphasis on its final syllable : •— 

*<S6d <er ferT'tar : hine trime^tms dicitur, 
ScaodinKlo bm''oB guod pede"9 conjungimus. 

This pause must not be confounded with the 
cflMura which, in the above lines, occurs after 
/eritur and binos. T. J. Bucktoh. 


CuBiosiTT OP THB Cehsus (2"^ S. XI. 499.) — 
It is a pity that the story about *'the pikeman** 
of Aldnngton having doubled the population by 
taking to himself a wife, since toe ;census of 
1851, is not true : it is so very good a story that 
it otight to be fact. But though in 1841 there 
was but one inhabitant in the parish, the greater 
part of which was swallowed up by the sea, yet, 

* This play was prodiic«d by Sophodss in answer to 
tba accusation of insanity. 

in 1851, there were nine inhabitants : eight males, 
one female. A. B. Y. Z. 

WOBMS IN THB FlBSH (2»* S. Xl. 231.) — 

Several correspondents have pointed out the 
prevalence of the "Guinea worm** in India and 
elsewhere ; but as bearing upon its frequency and 
its cause as a disease, I enclose an extract from 
an official report on irrigation which recently was 
published in the Calcutta Chvemment Oazette, 
Ragpoor is a small town in Dehra Doon, just 
below the hill on which the Sanatarium of Mus- 
soorie is situated. Lt.-Col. A. D. Turnbull is an 
officer of engineers of high reputation, and Di- 
rector-Greneral of Irrigation in the N.W. Pro- 
vinces : — 

'* Lt-Col. TurnboU states that since the constrnction 
of the masonry channel of the Ragpoor watercourae 
(which snpplies the town with drinking water), *the 
Guinea worm with which half the inhabitants were af- 
flicted has disappeared.' '* 

E. C. B. 

Calcutta, Jnne 15. 

Thb BamsH Musbum in 1784 (2^ S. xi. 505.) 
— *' The writer of the above article htm long since 
gone to dust.** He was William Hutton, the 
historian of Birmin$Eham, and the author of many 
curious works. The extract given by Ithubibl 
is from his Journey from Birmingham to London^ 
1785, pp. 186 — 193 ; a very plain and honest pic- 
ture of the sights of London by a provincial pen. 


Thb Etobiax (2*^ S. xii. 12.) — Unbda inquires 
the authorship of a poem in The Etonian^ and 
this is answered from a printed list of contribu- 
tors and their contributions at the end of the 
work. At the end of this list the cMonymous con- 
tributions (13) are mentioned by their titles. Can 
the authors of these pieces also be now given, or 
any of them discovered ? It would be interesting 
to learn this, especially as it has been said that 
the earlier productions of Macaulay*B pen were 
published in the journal in question. Macaulay 
was an Etonian, but his name is not in the list of 
authors of the work of that name. The initials 
R. S. attached to two of the thirteen anonymous 
contributions stand for R. C. Streatfeild, a late 
half-broker of my own. J. F. S. 

To Rbtibb. — In "N. & Q." (2»* S. xi. 324) 
Ogilvie's Imperial Dictionary is given as authority 
for the statement that the transitive use of the 
verb to retire is obsolete. In this country it is 
used very freauently by financial writers in this 
way — such a oank has retired its circulation. It 
has struck me that this use has come to us from 
New Orleans, where French is the native language 
of a large portion of the inhabitants, and where 
the French verb retirer^ to withdraw, may by 
these persons have been translated to retire^ in- 
stead of to withdraw, Unbda. 


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VoTDB : VoTDBB (S^ S. xi. 508.) ^ An old 
Scotch lady informB me that, in her young daya, 
the word voider waa in common use, applied to 
the case or tray of some sort, in which the varioiui 
courses of dinner were removed. R. M. 

Sn Stf WABD MoaBLBT OB MoaxBT (9*^ S. xl 
211.)^Attornay-General for the Duchy of Lan* 
caster-^ waa of the family of Moslevs of Anooata, 
near Manofaeater, now rapreaented by Sir Oswald 
Mosleyt Bart. I presume any Baronetage will 
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The Book of Good Coun$eh : from the Sarukrit of the 
« Hitopadeaar By Edwin Arnold, M.A. (of Univ. ColU 
Oxford), late Principal of the Pooma CoUege. With lUut' 
trations by Harrison Weir. (Smith, Elder, & Co.) 

Mr. Arnold claims for this story-book from the Sans- 
krit, at least the minor merit of novelty. We doubt this. 
It has 80 many higher merits, that a large portion of it 
has long since found its way into the litaratpre of Europe. 
The HiUfpadem is a work of very great antiquity. The 
prose, says Mr. Aluold, is doubtless at old as our own 
era; while the Intercalated verses are from the Maha- 
hhSrata, to which Monier Williams assigna a date of 860 
D.C.; and the Big-Veda, for which the aame authority 
claims an antiquity aa high as 1800 a^ The Hi^pa* 
d^Mt from which, tbroagb some of its numerous trans* 
lations, have come the Fables of Pilpay and Meo^, was 
rendered into Persic in the sixth century. From the Per- 
sic it passed, a.d. 850, into the Arabic, and thence into 
Hebrew and Oreak. We have It now bsAira as in our 
own good mother English, And we cannot beliava that 
it wiU be leas relished in this form than in any of the 
many shapes in which It has for centuries delighted and 
instructed mankind. Mr. Arnold will, we are sure, re- 
ceive the thanks €4 many readers, both old and yoong, 
for his amosing anil iastractive volnme. Tba vwnger 
readers probabhr will divide their approbation between 
Mr. Arnold for hia stories, and Mr. Harriaon Weir for the 
capiUl pictures with which he has illustrated them. 
Mr. Arnold's notes, explaining the oriental allusions, are 
not the least valuable part of the book. 

BUwk*9 Pietureaque Touritt hi aeotlctiuL Fifteenth 
EditUm. (A. &C. Black.) 

The reputation of this Guide ibr visltora to Iha northern 
parta of our Island is already so wall eaUbliahed, and tba 
words " Fifteenth Edition *' speak ao plainly of the favour 
with which it has been received by the public, that we may 
content ourselyes with announcing that the last edition 
underwent a thorough revision, and that the present has 
been revised with the greatest care. The value of the 
book is greatly increased b^ the number of mapg and 
illustrations which it contains! 

P The Feme of Verhyehire. Illustrated from Nature, 
Edited by W. E. Howe. With a Preface Im the Rev. 
Gerard Smith, B.A. (WeHheim, Madntoeh, & Hunt.) 

A small volume which we can cordially racommflBd to 

any fem«Ioviog tourist, wboee steps are bent towards 
Derbyshire. Mr. Smith's Introduction is excellent, and 
we wish we had space for the yery judicious remarks in 
which he exhorts lovers of ferns to remember those that 
are to come after us : and recommends all collectors to 
foUow Dr. Greyill's proper rule — never to gather a du- 
plicate which is not complete enough for tha Qaibariuai. 

BooKa RBonvKD:-— 

Medals of the SriUth Army, and How th^ were won. 
By Thomas Carter. Secomd Seetitm, ParU IX, I^attd 
XI. (Groombridge & Sons.) 

The distinctions here psrticnlariaed and represented 
are — « The Waterloo Medal : " « The War Medal," com- 
monly called «« The Peninsula*," and ''The Gold Cross 
and Claaps.** And the aervioes for which these well-woa 
marks of honour have been awarded, are well narrated 
by Mr. Carter. 

Boutledge'e lUuttrated Natural History. By ihe Bev. 
J.G.Wood. ParU XXriII and XXIX. (Koutledge.) 

We have so often repeated our praise of Mr. Wood's 
literary labours, and the merits of the artists who have 
illustrated them, that we must content ourselveB with 
announcing that the preaent Parta are fully equal to any 
that have preceded them. 

The new number of the Quarterly Review contains, as 
might be expected, an artide on America. Democracy 
onlts Trial, for so the article is entitled, will be read with 
interest even by those who may dissent fW>m some of the 
views enunciated In it The btoeraphieal articles, which 
are adwaya prominent faaturea of the Quarterly, treat of 
that great but eocentrio genina, Thomas De QM^iey-«-and 
of Gxwwr, the most remarkable man of our generation. 
The article on Bustia on the Amoor, while it points out 
the advances of that great power in China, is on the 
whole encouraging. The remaining articles of the pre- 
sent number are, JkfnUalembert on Weeitm Mimaehism$ 
Maime^e Awtimst Lawf a pleasant goeaiping paper on 
Scottish Character; and a literary sketch ofEngSih TVaiu- 
lators of VirgU, a companion paper to that on EngUsh 
Translators of Horace, which attracted some attention a 
year or two since. 

A praiseworthy endeavour to bring Photography 
within reach of the Million Is making by Mr. Beal of 
Paternoster -Bow, whose Ooai amd Passion <if our Lord, 
in six photographs, after famous pictures — and PAoto- 
^xqihtc Medallion Portraits of Poets, Authors, tfc, — 
deeerve a good word. 

We beg to remind our fsaden that Melns. Pnttiek & 
Simpson wiU commence the Sale of the first portion of 
Mr. Cole's wel^known CoUtetion of Autographs on 
Monday next 



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NOVBSy— Kendal Green-- The Sesteteis of the &tn- 
tionera' Company — Lord Macsulejr--^ Inoony *• and ** Bet 
tip EMt" — Petition of the Poer Piaheraaen of giilv- 
peint, near KinsaK to Lord Peputj Ventworth -^ Sir 
Francis Pa]graye. 

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Ignorance of America— King's Grow— Diet and its Dan- 
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— Alphabet Single Rhymed— Dean PesAock. 

QUERIES: — Anonymous -^Baeoliua — Bnnyan Portraits 

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"Knights of Malta^— Morris— Ancient Kusioal Nota- 
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QUERIBS WITH AwswEKS : — Death of Lord Francis Villiera 

— St, William's Di^ — St. Swithin's Day ^ Alexander 
Stephens — Knights Ho«ptt«Uers — Abbreviations In « 
Gotlouian Manuscript. 

RBPIIBS:— Xiord ChanoeUor Steele; Sir Itiohard Steele 
^ The Han of Ross — Calderon and '*The Begubir 
Drama**- John Oaiy. Bishop of Exeter --Old Epitikm 
Remodelled —Edward Raban— Captain Biehaid Dowse 

— Sir Richard Pole. KG, — King*(i Arms — Birth of 
Napoleon II. — Cygnet c. Signet: Seal of Robert de 
Thoeny— Naming of New Churches — Waller Family — 
Descriptive Catalogue — Hours, lenirth of: Set of the 
Orologe — Inkermann — Cardinal Ri^elieu — The Brocae 

— Narcissus LuttreH — The Templeg Reglddes — Edward 
I. aud Llewellyn Prince of Vjjfia- Ma^polea — Longevity 
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Beard, Book Brokerage, Wolaer's Beudenoe, Chariea Jj^ 
Mye, Thomas Hearoe. Dr. Bawlinsoq's CoUectioos, a 
Kentish Worthy, Tom TophMa, Blenheim, an Elophant's 
Tooth, and an Epitaph, 81 — Harleian Scraps, No. I.. 86 — 
The Worth of a Penny, 84. 

MnroB NoTBt) — **That aua-awake Ida ejea maj wink" 
Addison and Johnson — Book Inscriptions— Didymua 
Mountain; HenryDethyckc— Rev. Thomas Shuttleworth 
Qrimshawo, M.A. — Annotated University Lists, 86. 

QUEBIBS: — James Chalmers,* 86 — William AsWbrd -- 
Anonymous — Lord Baoon's " Comnum-plaoe Books ^-^ 
The Bodleian Portrait pf Maiy, Queen of Scots — "Cos- 
mogonies " — ** Domesticate " — DueUing — The Horse- 
shoe Club — Joseph of Arimatfaea •- Edward Melton's 
" Travels " — Professor Legators Museum — Captain John 
Meares— Priests' Arms or Crests— Prig, the Auctioneer 
•— Self-wfaiding Watches, Ac., 86. 

QuraiBS WITH AN6WBB8 : — Nicholss Tettersell— Bishop 
GastreU — Samuel Bootaart — Hogarth's Tour — Ordnance, 

BBPLIES: — Lord ChanoeUor Steele: Sit Bjchapd Steele, 
89— Anthem. 90 -< Mutilation and Destruction of Sepul- 
chral Monuments, 92— Deeds with Strings and Seals, 94— 
Edgar Pamlly, lb. — Aldrington, Sussex — John Fisher, 
Bishop of Exeter and Salisbury — Portrait of Columbus — 
Biosebeny Topping— Spurs in the House of Commons — 
Baard or Baardse : Esneka or Snek — Isabella, Countess 
of Glottcester- Issue of Archbishop Cranmer and of his 
Brother John — Parish Top— Arms granted by James I.— 
Epigram on Sheepshanks— Ancient Musical Notation. 9S. 

{Conlttnuedfrom p. 8.) 

FniCHBACK*8 Musical Clock, — On Thursdaj 
eyeniDg, Oct. 4, 1722, being in company, and 
some talking of curiosities in art, mentioned a fine 
and curious clock made by Pinobbaokt wUeh, 
with a small morement or touch, could play many 
and various sor^ of tunes, imitating many sorts 
of iustrumentsi several birds, &c., the music being 
just, regular, and tuneable, and the time weU 
observed. This put a thought into my head, 
which I mentioned instantly. I have often un- 
derstood, that in and about all over England 
iezeept great cities) in the narish churches, the 
^salnis that are sung are ill sung, and out of 
tune, time, &c. : and often by the ignorance of the 
clerks so wretchedly performed, that it is a misery 
to hear them j and wnen in country towns, where 
they have organs, the organists are poor tools and 
very deficient. Therefore, I said, that if this 
Pinchback would undertake, or any other, to make 
organs to play those Psalm tunes in time and 
truth of music, and could allow them a^ a reason* 
able rate, as 10^ or 20i. a- piece, I do not doubt 
but he might dispose of a vast number all over 
the nation, and tney would be extremely useful 
for the good harmony and unity of music in 
diurchea. Whether thin thought will 9Ter 9ome 
to be used God knows. 

S» WuLWAM Wjthkm's Pictubb.— When the 
great picture of Sir William Withers, Lord Mayor 
of Loudon [1708], painted by Richardson and 
Wootton, was being put up in the Bridewell Hall, 
Sir William was present, and it happening that 
the picture waa made too big for the place in- 
tended for it, some difficulty arose where to put 
it. Howard, the King's frame*maker, was there; 
and observing there was a large space over the 
chimney, where the large picture of King Edward 
VI. [by Holbein] was fixed, he says, « Sir Wil- 
liam, put it in that place, and remove that picture 
elsewhere." "What," savs Sir William, "dis- 
place the King's picture, O fie I " " Zounds, Sir, 
what signifies it," replied Howard, " is not a living 
dog better than a dead lion P" 

JosjiPH HiQBMOSB. — The desire and afiecta* 
tion of being great in public reputation, puts some 
men on designs that are false impositions, as in 
the oase of Mr, Highmore, who, miving failed in 
obtaining the honour of the King or Queen sit* 
ting to him for their pictures, did by stealth draw 
them first on paper at several views, and after** 
wards by memorv in some parts, and also copying 
those pictures before painted by Sir Godfrey 
Kneller, he made two pictures, which he thought 
to be more like their Majesties than others done 
before. This, in time to come, may explain how 
those two prints, lately done by Faber, came to 
be subscribed " Highmore pinxit** Likewise he 
has since done by guess the picture of the Duke 
of Lorraine. 

Mutton's Pobtbati bt MAm8HAiji,>-<"I am apt 
to think, upon mature consideration, that Marshall 
drew manv heads from the life which he engraved, 
particularly Stapleton's, Hodges's, and Milton's, 
there being the sameness in manner of drawing as 
well as ornaments, dress, &c. ; though I never 
observed or find that Marshall mentions or marks 
to his plates a4 vivum^ as is and has been since 
used. Nor have I scarcely met with anv instance, 
even to the time when Marshall lived, that any 
other of the portrait engravers in En^hmd did 
mention separately, or added^ the drawing done 
by themselves and the engraving, but only sculp* 
Ht orfeeit 

I find Marshall waa employed to grave several 
small heads for books of poetry, &c by Moselej 
the bookseller, about 1634 to 1639, and after* 
wards. But generally Marshall graved the lines 
of the features too hard and stiff, though perhaps 
in the draughts worked afterwards it were not so. 
Therefore it might happen when he was to en- 
grave the face of a person that was fair, or of a 
tender complexion, as at that time Milton is re- 
ported to have been in a very remarkable manner. 
The print of him expresses astat 21, which an- 
swers to the year 1629, when Milton's soft and 
agreeable ooanten»nQ9 required Umi gr««t««t skill 

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ID engraying, as may be seen in some works done 
abroM at that time. Therefore I infer and con- 
clude that Milton saw this when the plate was 
done. It appeared too old for him then, by the 
lines being too strong ; and, as he could not help 
it, he, to his learned friends and the public, added 
a Gredc inscription underneath the plate that ex- 
presses his dislike of it : -^ 

Tbi'JS* iKTvwt t rhv ovjc iwiyp6irnt, ^*^ 
r<A«rc ^avAov twriAtfi iii ia {iwyp^ov.*** 

After this I do not find he had any picture of 
himself engrared till that which was done by 
Faithome, ad vivum delineavit et sculpsitf on a 4to 

folate, 1670, let 62, which is the most authentic 
ikeness of him ; although afterwards, but espe- 
cially lately, many sorts and difierent pictures 
are attributed to him, every person being fond of 
possessing the name of an original of him. Upon 
comparing these two printed pictures together, 
the shape of the face, and the disposition of the 
features, are agreeable to one another, and carry 
as much likeness as is possible to expect at such a 
distance of time. The first done in 1645, the last 
in 1670=twenty-five years, 

CoYBNT GiJiDBir. — In an ancient manuscript 
Survey of the King*s Lands, Goods, &c. of Kinff 
Henry YIIL in the Court of Augmentation is 
mentioned, that William Boston, Abbot of St. 
Peter*8, Westminster, by an agreement the first 
of June, 28 of King Henry VlII., [claimedj all 
that garden lying and being next Charing Cross, 
called Covent Garden, and also seven acres of 
land lying without the said garden, near and ad- 
joyning to the same, in the parish of St. Martin- 
in-the-Fields, valued by the said abbot, yearly 
value 6L 6s Sd., to have and to hold the said 
garden, and the seven acres of land. Be it there- 
fore enacted in the present parliament: the King's 
Majesty shall have the said Covent Garden and 
lands : that they shall be exchansed for the lands 
of Hurley Wood, in the county of Berks, formerly 
belonging to, and parcell of. Hurley Abbey. 28 
Hen. Vm. 1537. Fol. 45. 

A KoBLB Bbabd. — In 1555, four persons, as 

* Mr. J. F. Marsh, in his asefal little work On the En- 
graved Portraits and Pretended PortraUi of Milton, 1860, 
p. 19, has the following note on these lines :— *< This epi- 
gram and other Greelc verses of Milton are the subject of 
a severe critique by Dr. Bnmey, which formed an Ap- 
pendix to Warton's second edition of the Jlfinor Poena, 
Whatever may be their faults of syntax and prosody, it 
must be admitted t|iat the lines are destitute of epigram- 
matic point, to an extent which enables them almost to 
defy translation; but the following will convey 
thing like the sense and spirit of the original — 
** Who, that my real lineaments has scanned. 
Will not in this detect a bungler's hand ? 
My friends, in doubt on whom his art was tried. 
The idiot limner's vain attempt deride." 

agents, went to Moscow in Russia ; havbg letters 
from England from King Philip and Queen Mary^ 
they were brought to the Prince*s palace, where 
they were nobly entertained by the Prince and 
his nobles. After dinner the Prince took into his 
hand Master George Killingworth's beard, which 
at that time was thick, broad, and of a yellow 
colour ; but in length five foot and two inches ! ^ 

Book Bbokbkaqb. — There was something ex* 
traordinary in the collection of books made by 
Mr. David Papillon in 1748. He agreed with a 
bookseller [Charles Marsh] to deliver to him 
12,000 books bound at twopence a piece — any 
books in any languages. The bookseller delivered 
5000 at that price, and 100 folios at 61 Thus, 
for a thousand small books bound at 61. per 1000, 
the five thousand came to 25/., and 61, for the 
folios, made altogether SOL for 6000 books, and a 
Catalogue of every book in the bargain.f 

WoLSET*s Rbsidbrgb. — In Chancery Lane, 
over against the Rolls Office, next to the Six 
Clerks* Office, is an old timber house, said to have 
been the dwelling of Cardinal Wolsey, when Bishop 
of Lincoln. I have seen in the Augmentation 
Office, an Agreement of the Prior of St. John of 
Jerusalem, in Clerkenwell, with Cardinal Wolsey 
for this house in Chancery Lane, next adjoining to 
the office of the Clerks, before he was Cardind or 
Archbishop of York. I have lately visited it and 
viewed it : in a great room above stairs is carved 

the arms and supporters of Carew, who had 

embellished and repaired it with fret-work ceil- 
ings, &c. It is now, and has been for many years, 
a tavern of note. 

Charlbs Labbltb. — The scheme or proposi- 
tion for erecting the bridge at Westminster was 

that of Lavallade [Labelye], a Switzer who 

came to England. His first employment was as a 
barber, and did shave for his living ; but having 
some skill in geometry, architecture, &c., lived 

* Pennant {London, ed. 1790, p. 169) informa ns, that 
**\n the reign of Henry YIIL beards were prohibited at 
the great table of Lincoln's Inn, under pun of paying 
donble commons. His daughter Elisabeth, in the first 
year of her reign, confined them to a fortnight's growth, 
under a penalty of 8«. id. ; but the fashion prevailed so 
strongly, that the prohibition was repealed, and no man- 
ner of sise limited to that venerable excrescence 1 ** 

f Dr. Ducarel's account of this singular contract is as 
follows: **Mr. Papillon contracted with Mr. Charles 
Marsh to fhmish him with 200/. worth of books at two- 
pence a-piece. The only condition was that they should 
be perfect and no duplicates. There might be as many 
different editions as possible of the same book { but no 
duplicate of any one edition. Marsh was highly pleased 
with his bargain; and, by rummaging the stalls, ob- 
tained a large quantity. The next purchase, however, 
he found he could send but few ; and the next still fewer ; 
so that he absolutely grew tired of his oommissioD.*' 
(Nichols's LU, Anec, v. l7L) 

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sometime with Mr. fiawksmoor, architect. After 
his death he proposed the building, or directing, 
of Westminster JSridge ; and he was the man that 
proposed to laj down caissons, or rafts of timber, 
on which to build the piers.* 

Thomas Hbabhb. — Tom Heame, of Oxford, 
after hb death left all his manuscripts, books, and 
papers to Mr. Bedford, a physician, son of a re- 
verend clergyman. Upon Mr. Bedford's death, 
ihey were to be disposed of; but being not so 
proper to be sold or publicly seen, especially his 
Adversaria, contuning reflections and characters 
of persons, they were therefore bought in by some 

Db. Bawunson's Coijlectioms. — June 13, 
1749. This day I visited Dr. Bawlinson at Lon- 
don House [Aldersgate Street], formerly the 
Bishop of London's, and built by Secretary Pe- 
ters4 There I saw his great collections of 
manuscripts, many finely-illuminated writings, 
and innumerable printed books, pamphlets, &c., 
many in confusea heaps on the floors, stools, 
tables, and shelves ; ana many marbles, pictures, 
'bronzesy stones, prints, &c. All the great rooms 
in this house filled with them in presses, and also 
-more lumber in the garrets, &c. I intended to 
take a draft of the front and plan of it. [Since 
.€one by me.] There in some presses I saw the 
Collectanea of Thomas Heame, late of Oxford, 
commonly called Tom Heame*s Pocket-Books, 
^wherein he constantly wrote notes, observations, 
remarks, and reflections, good and bad, of all per- 
sons as he pleased. 

A Ej»ti8h Worthy.— Died at Waldersbare, 
in Kent, on Nov. 18, 1743, James Jobson, farmer, 
tted 112, who had seven wives, by whom he had 
thirty-eight children : nineteen sons and nineteen 

* Charles Labelye died at Paris in the beginning of 
1762. Id 6oagh*8 BritiMh Topog. i. 474, is mentioned a 
plan of the intended harbour between Sandwich town 
and Sandown castle, by Charles Labelye. He pnblished. 
An AeeoKwt of the Method made nm of in laying the foun- 
datione of WeeiminsUr Bridge^ 8vo, 1789. 

t They were purchased by Dr. Bawlinson, and have i 
since been published bv the late Dr. Bliss, entitled BeH- 
quuB Heamiana; the Kemaine of Thomae Heame^ M.A, 
See "N. & Q.," 2"^ S. il 879; in. 40, 160. 

X Sir William Petre, Secretary of SUte to Edward YL, 
Mary, and EUsabeth. 

§ Farmer Jobson was more fortunate than good Dr. 
Booert Hoadly Ashe, who had nineteen daughters, but 
no son. Tom Dibdin has left us the following reminis- 
.ceoce of the Doctor:—**! had the pleasure of sitting next 
]>r. Ashe at dinner, when he began a story with — ' As 
aleren of my daughters and I were crossing Piccadilly ' 
»«^* Eleven of your daughters. Doctor?' I rather rudely 
inteirapted. 'Yes» Sir,' rejoined the Doctor, *I have 
ainateen daughters all living ; never had a son ; and Mrs. 
Ashe, myseliTand nineteen female AMhe pkmte, sit down 

Tom Topham. — On the 28th of May, 1741, 
I'om Topham, before thousands of people, lifted 
three hogsheads of water weighing 1836 pounds in 
Cold Bath Fields, to the honour of Admiral Ver- 
non. In August, 1749, Topham stabbed himself 
in several places, of which wounds he died. 

BiiBNHEiM. •— The works and buildings of Blen- 
heim House are said to have cost 950,000/.^ and 
that the kitchen only cost 10,000/. in building. 

All £lbphaht*s Tooth. — A large tooth of an 
elephant brought to London [1747], which weighs 
130 pounds. It sold for 30/. 

An Epitaph upon a young handsome lady, 
beautiful and fair : — 

** Here rest thy dust, and wait th' Almighty's will, 
Then rise unohang'd, and be an angel still." 


In the Harl. MS. 211. there is a curious old 
English treatise on the seven deadly sins, from 
which I have taken a few scraps. It commences 
with — 

** Christ y* deyde upon y* crosse for savacOn of mankynde 
Grawnt us gee so to a skapyn y* sley ensaylige of y 

fende . 
That we be not for synne lost in our last ends." 

** The sevene dedly synnys be Ivknyd to sevene sundiy 
bestis; as pryde to y* lyon. Govetyse to y urchon. 
Wrathe to y* wolfe. Envye to v* hound. Slowthe to y* 
asse, Glotonye to a here ; and fecherye to a swyne." 

In applying these comparisons, the writer thus 
describes covetousness : — 

** And yfor a covetous man is liknyd to an urchon, for 
as y* urchon goth w* his scharp prickis & gadr}'th to 
gede a gret hord of applis I y erthe, gessyng padventur 
y* his lyvyng schold faylyn him but he hadde so gret an 
hep gaderid to gydere at onys. Ki^t so a covetous man 
gooth w* many sley^ts & sotistees & gadryth an hoord 
of erthely catel to gyder, weoyng y* God & y world wol 
faylyn him but he hadde a gret snSe of catel redelyche 
gadrid to gyder at onys." 

He divides " slowthe ** into eight branches, one 
of which is " tendyrheed " : — 

** Tendyrheed is whan a man delitith hi in softs cloth- 
ings, in nessche beddyng : he moste ofte be wassche ; ofle 
be bathid, Sc ofte be kempt : he cherschith so tendlyche 
his flesch y* he may no scharpnesse sofre, ne nothyng 
y* is hard, as is goyng barfot, welleward, levynge be 
hard mete & diike, lyggynge on hard lyteris, owt of 
lynnyn clothis, knelyng on y« bare grownd, suffrvng 
cold I hands & feet, & uk' scharp disciplynys for y* love 
of god. He y* chersith so his body & hys fleach y« he may 
no swich thmg suffi-e fallyth I this vice." 

A rather rigorous spiritual adviser. Then as to 
envy; he defines it as "gladnesse of anoth* manys 

one-and- twenty to dinner every day. Sir, I am smothered 
with petticoats.'" 

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myschef, and herynesse of hia boncbef.** The 
word ** bonohef,*^ as opposed to mischief, is new to 
me. I do not find it m the Prompiorium JVirm- 

•« Tberfor is y* envyo* mil lyknid to v* hownd, flfbr ryJt 
as it greryth y* hownd y* a man goaui be y« way thowh 
y* man do hym noon harm & ellis wolde he not berken 
vp on hym. Ry^t so it greryth an envyo* man y^ anoth' 
go b«syd6 h% thowh be y* goth be sydyn him do bim 
noon luinn : & ellya wold not y envyo* mah bakbityn 
his neyh^ebo* & spekyn evyl of hys evyn c'styn. Ther 
Is sa bond of this eondicyon, be wit whil a man is pient 
fbwnyn ap on hym w* hys tayl, bnt a noon as y* man 
tnyth his bak, y* same bond wil bityn hym be ^* hele. 
Ri3t so a envyo' man I psenoe of bl y* he hatith wil speke 
fiiyre w^ y tunge, bat anoon as y< same m& tnyth bak, y' 
envTo' mail is redy to bakbityn ht & to spekyn evyl of 
hi I'his absence, & yfor it is alwey good to fle y copany 
ofy^anvyo' man." 

In another band la written at the end : — 

** Explicit tnustatos de septem peccatis mortalibas qaem 
oomposnit Reverendns Magister frater Ricardns Lavyn- 
ham Ordinis Beatissime Dei genitricis Marie de Monte 



In ibese days, when Penny Savings* Bank8,'"and 
other desirable means of investing the spare earn- 
ings of honest industry, have been devised b/ the 
ingenuity of our phUanthropista, the following 
passage from a Tery curious and interesting tract, 
entitled — 

•* The Worth of a Penny ; or, a Caution to keep Money, 
with the Oauses of the Scarcity and Misery of the Want 
thereof, in these Hard and Menriless Times, &c. By 
Henry Peacham, Mr. in Arts, sometime of Trinity Col- 
ledge, Cambridge. Now newly reprinted, &c. London, 
&c.,1677." (1^.86.) 

may be worth transfsirinf to the pages of '*N. 

Ay b 

<* The Simple tf^orth of a Single Penny, 
" A penny bestowed in charity upon a poor body, shall 
not want an heavenly reward. 

For a penny you may in thh Low-Countries, in any 
market, bny eight several commodities; as nuts, 
vinegar, grapes, a little cake, onions, oatmeal, and 
the like. 

A penny bestowed In a small quantity t>f Anniieedf 
Aqua vita, or the like strong water, may save ones 
life, in a fainting or swound. 

At the Apothecaries you may buy a penny Worth of 
any of those things following, via. Lozenges for could 
or cough; Juice of Liquorish; a Diachilon Plals- 
ter for an Issue; Paracelsus, oil of Roses, oil of St 
John's wort ; a penny worth of each is good fbr a 
sprain: Syrup-Lettice to make one sleep, Jsllop to 

give a purge ; Mithridate to make yon sweat, if you 
ave taken cold, or good to expel and prevent ihfec- 
tioQ • Dioecordium, Diacodium, if you cannot sleep. 
*or a penny you may hear a most eloquent Oration 
^5^? ?*' English Kings and Queens, if, keeping 
f^.Sf°^ '^* y^"^ seriously listen to him who 
aeeps the monuments at Westminster. 

Some, fbr want of a penay, have been constrained to 

Clh>m Westminster about by London-bridge to 
mbeth, and might say truly : Defessi sumus am- 

You may have in Cheapside your penny trippled in 

the same kind: for you shall have Penny-Gras^ 

Penny- Wort, and Penny- Royal for your penny. 
For a pdnny you may see any Monstef, Jaekahat^es, or 

those roaring boyes, the Lyons. 
For a penny ytm may have all the news fai Ebgland, \ 

and «tber Countries, of Mnrd6l1i^ Floodsi Witches, « 

Fires, Tetapeets, and What iwt, in the Weekly newt- [ 

For a penny yon itaay have your horse rubbed and 

walked alter a long journey; and being at grass, 

there are sotne that will breath him fbr nothing. 
For a penny yon may buy a fair Cucumber ; bat not a. 

breast of Mutton, except it be multiplied. 
For a penny yon may bay Tine, which is pi«cious ; 

yea, and Thrift to> if you Im a bad husband. 
For a penny, an Hostess or an Hostler may bny as 

much chalk as will score up thirty or forty pounds ; 

but how to come by their money, that let them look to. 
For a penny yoii thay have yottr Dog woribed, and so 

be kept fWMU mnnltig mad. 
For a penny donbled a Drunkard may be guarded to 

his lodging, if his head be light and the evening 

For a penny you shall tell what may happto a year 

henee (which tht Devil himself cannot do) in sotne 

Almanack) or othef rade Oouhtry. 
An baid-favourad, and itt^brsd wench, mada penny- 

white» may (as our times ar«) prova a gallant Lady. 
For a penny you might have been advanced to that 

height, that you shall be above the best in the City; 

yea, the Lord Mayor hiknself,— that is to th« top of 

For a petiny, a miserable and cevitons wretch that 

navar did, or never will, bestow a penn^ on a Doctor 

or Apothecary for their Physic or advice, may pro- 
vide a remedy for all diseases, viz. a Hklter, 
For a penny you may buy a dish of Coffee, to quicken 

your stomach and refresh your spirits. 
For a penny you mliy buy the hardest book fn the { 

Worid» and which at some time or other have posed j 

the greatest clerks in the landi viz. a Horn-book, j 

the making up of which book iro ployed above thirty ( 

In so great esteem, in former times, have our English 

pence been, that they have been caitled to Rome by 

Cart •-loads. 
For a penny you may search among the Rolls, and 

withatl give the Master good satisfkction. I mean 

in a Baker's bssket 
For a penny, a Chamber-maid may buy ai mneh Red« 

oaker as will serve seven yvars for the paiating of 

her cheeks. 
For a penny, the Monat^h in a Free-school ikiay 

provide himself of as many Arms as will keep itU his 

rebellious subjects in awe. 
For a penny you may walk within One of the fairest 

Oardens in the City, and have a nosegay or two 

made you of what sweet flowers jou pleaee, to satisfy 

the sense of smelliog. 
For a penny you may have that so aseftil at yotir 

Trencher, as will season your meat, to please your 

taste a moneth. 
For a penny you may buy M much Wood of that Tree, 

which is green all the year, and beareth Red- berries, 

as will cure any shrew'^s (I\mgtt«, if it be too long for 

her mouth, via. a Hotty wind.*' 

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The following account of thii little book, at 
p. 34, maj li>e not unworth/ of notice : — 

" Tfcii little Book, of the worth of a penny, was newlj 
reprinted a little before the last great Plagae, the Im- 
pression soon being sold ; and that fHend of Mr. Peacham's 
that published it did prepare and fit this said Book, with 
some more additions, amone which was some memorable 
obsenrations of the yoarij Silh of Moitality ; but being 
ready for to Print, the dreadful Fire falling npon the 
place, consnmed that lUtie Book, with those new addi- 
tions, \mt with them tnany olher Manvicriptft of graaMr 
wwrth ; MttritliataadfBR this great Ion, the said peUisiMr 
cMiId not at preseat pia>liah his Collection of the yearly 
Bills of Kortali^, Tet he nnblished the aaid book anew 
again by the I7*i> of May, 1667 : which said last impression 
beinff all sold, the said pablisher, having gained thosft 
Tear^ Bilb of Mortality, with tome motiTes against th« 
ftar of Death, and of the Danger of not being w«ll pre- 

Kid» with BOOM obserratiooa of this pNMD* bad Ag% 
h now again r€|^ted it." 

WaU {BUL Brit) infyrm ta that o«r author 
was the son of Henry Peacham of LeTorion^ in 
Holland. B. G. 



I hav« just discovered the orjginal roadii^ of the 
following passage, in Romeo onJ Jtrficf :*— 

'* Spread thy close cnriain» lotvperfohning night I 
lliat nm-aamiy V ^es may wink^ and Borneo 
Leap to these arms, untalk'd of, and unseen ! * 

Romeo eaanot cobmb in the day-time; for he 
will be %eeft and talked of. He nttst come in the 
night-time. But Juliet wants him immediately ; 
and therefore she wu\\m i^^ght inttantly. 

iV»t the attaimuent of this object there w«re but 
two metiiods* Jniiet §Mkf impoftttats Phabns't 
** fiery-fboted eteeds '^ to gallop so Ihst m lo hring 
their driver to his ** ttansion * immedialeiyv 8e« 
condly she hiYOkes night instantly to come \ thajt 
San (who will be awake dnri&g hie journey^ may 
be compelled his eyes to doee while eoncludniff it» 
Our pok writes the following dialogue in Act II. 
Sc. 6 <of Uie oidest quarto)^ again expreBsiti| the 
idea of the Bun*ii eyes being ^osed, though he be 
awake :-^ 

** Bom. My Juliet, welcome. As doo wakingeyes 
(Cloased In Night's mysts) attend the frolteksDay, * 
So Xomeo hath expected JkHet, 
And thoa art come. 

J^ I am (if I be Day) 

Come to my Sonne : shine foorth, and make me faire. 

Amk All beaatooas faines dweUeth in thine eyes. 

y«Z. iZosMo^ from thiae all brightnea doth arise." 

Hie poet's weeds were oertainly these : -^ 
* That snn-awake*s eyes ttiy wink," &e. 

EiTOBKfi J. Beadt. 
Aopisoit AHD Johnson. — Addison, in No. 417 
of the Spectator, says : — < 
"Beading the i^iacf is ttcs taaTsUiag through a «o«n* 

try uninhabited, where the fancy is entertained with a 
thousand savage prospects of vast deserts, wide nncnlti- 
yated marsheB« huge forests, misshapen rocks and pre- 
cipices. On the contrary, the .SmeidiB like a well>ordeiBd 
garden, where it is impossible to find out any part un- 
adorned, or to cast our eyes upon a single spot that does 
not produce some beautiml plant or flower." 

Was not Johnson indebted to this passage for 
the following yery similar idea : — 

<• Diydenii page Is a nataral field rising into ineqnaU- 
ties, and diyenified by the yaried exabecance of abund- 
ant yegetation ; Pope^s is a yelyet law»» shayen by the 
scythe, and leyelled by the roller **? 


Book IttscnxPTioNs.'^Some time ago I pur- 
chased a copy of Basil Kennet*s AmUfiiiits qf 
Rame^ and on one of the plans of that city which 
illustrate the work (and which had been slightly 
ftimf ), the following is writtoii which please aasert, 
if you oonsider it worthy of preserration : *— 

** N«ie, to get a fklse leoown. 

And ayeriasting naaie^ 
Long since did bum this miffhty I^mi, 

And laughed to see the Flame. 
Here, tho' there were much milder Fires, 

Tet we are grleyed to see 
A nnall part of her Wills and Spifes, 

Burnt hi Sflgis. (M». 1, 1792^^ 

A later h'and has added below «— 

'* Where as the writer of the lines* 
Which here aboye you see ? 
Sis soul is in the dread confines 
Of an Eternity. 

** Long since he paid that draadftd debt, 
Which all that liye mast pay ; 
The namber of his daja were se^ 
And dwindled soon away. 

" Tet these suryiye him, and remain 
A kind of monument ; 
That seem to testiQr how yain, 
The life which hwe he spent 

«* Soon, too^ the hand that's writing now* 
Will grasp a pen no morof 
Will hoi as cold ~ be laid as low — 
As any hand before. 
•»I'eb.l> 1826. Wm. J . . . K . . »." 

John A. Haepah. 

DxDTMtre Moijhtaih: Hbnkt Dxmc^B.^ 
Those who take an interest in the early Uteratiire 
of gatde&ing, have often sought to ascertnin who 
was Didymus Mountain, the author of The Gar' 
demr'^ JLahtfrinth, yarioua editions of which ap- 
peared between 1571 and 1594. Hitherto the 
seaitih has been unsuccemful; but I haye at last 
discovered that he was no other than the notorious 
hackney writer, Thomas HiU. It is so stated m 
Edmund Southerners Treatise concerning the Right 
Use and Ordering of Bees, published in 1593. 
At first I thought It was a mistake of Southerne s ; 
but upon reflection, his statement is confirmed by 
the fact that Didymus is a synonym of Thoittif) 
and Mounudn a synonym of £011. 

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The last edition of The OardenerU Ldbyrinik 
appeared in 1594.* It appears that Mountain, or 
rawer Hill, was just dead when a preyious edi- 
tion had been published in 1586. Both these 
editions are stated to be edited b^ '* Henry De- 
thTcke." Can anyone inform me who this editor 
wu P G. W. J. 

Ray. I'homas SBinrTi.BwoaTH Gumshawb, 
M.A., forty years vicar of Biddenham, Bedford- 
shire, and rector of Burton Latimer, Northamp- 
tonshire, died 13 Feb. 1850, and was buried in the 
chancel of Biddenham, where is a monument to 
his memory. He was author of the Life of the 

Rev, Legh Riehmimij M.A , The Wnmge of 

the Clergy of the Dioceee of Peterborough Hated and 

iUudra^ Lend 1822, and edited the works 

and correspondence of William Cowper, with Life 
prefixed, Lond., 8 vols. 12mo. 1836, and 1 vol. roy. 
Svo. 1845. His wife died 1851. His son, Mr. 
Livius Grimshawe, resides at or near Bedford, 
and one of his daughters is married to Legh 
Richmond, Esq. His son J. H. Grimshawe, of 
Trinity College, Cambridge, died 1835, and is 
buried at BiddenhanLf These brief and imper- 
fect notes respecting a gentleman once well known 
in the religious world may not be useless, as we 
believe that no memoir of him can be found in the 
OentlematCa Magazine^ or any of the periodicals 
of the day. His JVroi^s qflhe Dioceee of Peter* 
horough was reviewed (wiUi other works) by the 
Rev. Sydney Smith in the JEdmburgh Review. 
The article is reprinted under the tiUe of ^ Per- 
secuting Bishops in Sydney Smith's Worhs, 

C. H. & Thompson Coopim. 

Anhotatbd Umxvsssitt Lists. — Allow me to 
suggest that, for each University, there be com- 
piled a work containing the annual lists of honour 
and ordinary degrees, taken, say within the last 
forty or sixty years, and giving brief information 
as to eubee^uent distinctions. In the Cambridge 
Calendar this is carried out in the case of honour 
men ; but a large number of those who take a 
Poll degree exert themselves in after life, and of 
these the only accessible account (excepting the 
Oradvati CaiUabrigietues) is a bare annual list, 
bound up with other matter. Such a work would 
be as interesting as an annotated school list ; and 
if published at interrab of five or ten years, might 
find a respectable circulation amongst men who 
have long left the University, and wi^ to know 

[* At least two more editions subsequently appeared, 
vi*. 1608, 4to, black letter, and 1656, 4io. In the latter, 
the quaint yet beantifol Dedication of Henry Dethicke, 
omittSdr~E^°T" good Lord, Sir William Cecill," is 

Oxfo^? ^' ^ '^'^^•^*''« '^M* ^« believe, a graduate of 

the fate of old friends or well-known characters — 
besides being of use for future research. 

S. F. C. 



A copy of Whitelocke's Memanalt, folio, pub- 
lished in London in 1682, came into my posses- 
sion a few weeks ago. Its margins are fill^ with 
very interesting notes of a contemporary hand, 
evidently written by one who was well tq> in the 
religious questions of the revolutionary period 
embraced m the Memoriale. For the most part, 
the notes have reference to«8uch church matters 
as came, in their ever-chan^inji^ phases, before the 
parliament, or before commissioners appointed to 
treat with Charles L or others, for concessions or 

The annotator, speaking of Whitelocke, says : — 

** The Author of the MemoritUi is tn from being Im- 
partial in his Accounts of Things & Persons. He was 
too deeply engaged in y* Schemes of y* Enemies of 
church Sc State to give a fair & Candid Representation 
of y^ Transactions of y Time he lived in. He Betrays a 
dislike of the Bishops & Clergy in General, Butt an In- 
veterate Spight against The 'lllustrions Arch -Bishop 
Laud m particular.** 

And of Laud he writes : — 

''The Character of y Arch Bishop is Sufficiently 
known, & will be admired by y Friends of Religion, The 
Church & Monarchy of England. It may be seen in 
Clarendon & Eachard, but more Inlly in Heylin Sc 

The above extracts are probably enough to 
show the writer*s style and leaning. He was a 
decided royalist, churchman, and Laudlst; and 
his remarks, strong on the views he takes of the 
proceedings of those troublous times, are generally 
supported, or exhibited, by quotations from vari- 
ous works which hold high opinions in favour of 
Charles and the Church. 

On the title-page is the autograph signature of 
its once owner, *' Ja. Chalmers** (no doubt, James 
Chalmers) ; and it is clear, almost beyond ques- 
tion, by a comparison of his signature with the 
characteristics of the marginal notes, that he was 
the annotator. 

Who, then, was this James Chalmers? Can 
any of your readers throw any light on his writ- 
ings, omces, and history P M. S. R. 

William Ashfokd. — Where may I find anj 
bioipaphical narticulars of William Ashford, the 
distinguished landscape-paint«r, and the first Pre- 
sident of the Boyal Hibernian Academy (esta- 
blished b;f charter in 182S), who 'Mied at his 
residence in Sandymount Tnear Dublin] at the ad- 
vanced age of seventy -eight, to the last the warm . 
devotee of Nature and her handmaid Art P ** 
What is the date of his death P I am aware of 

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what is stated respecting him in the Life of James 
Oantoji, Esq.^ Architect^ p. 141 (Dublin, 1846.) 

AvoMTMODS. — Wanted, the author's name of 
two 8vo. tracts, published in London in the year 
1722, entitled An Historical Account of the Ad' 
vantages thai have Accrued to England by the Site* 
cession in the lUustrUnts House of Hanover f 

Fbbdebick G. Leb, F.S.A. 
Fountain Hall, Aberdeen. 

LoBB Bacoh's " Comm oiv-plagb Books." — In 
a paper before me it is staled, that amongst the 
qiost interesting of the Abp. Tenison's MSS. 
lately dispersed, was a sort of Common-place 
Book kept bj Lord Bacon, and called by him 
Commentarhu Solutus^ sive Pandecta, sive Ancilla 
MemoriiBy containing entries from July 25, 1608, 
to October 28, 1609 : it sold for 691 

Perhaps jou could giye me some information 
about the contents of this book, and state whether 
there are other note-books of Lord Bacon in 
existence ? 

I cannot but lament the absence of what used 
to be a yery interesting and yaluable feature of 
" N. & Q.," yiz. the Notes on Book Sales you 
used to give us. Eibiohkach. 


Scots. — In a recent pamphlet entitled The Strat- 
ford Portrait of Shakespeare^ and the Athenteum, 
Sc, Mr. Charles Wright, at p. 16, states that Mr. 
oUins, who has exhibited *'the Stratford por- 
trait *' in London, was formerly 

*<the discoTerer. of an interesting' portrait* by the re- 
moTal of an over painting ; the portrait of Mary, Qneen 
of Scots, — the one engraved for Lodge's work, I think, 
then in the Bodleian Library, having vanished under his 
manipalation, to the consternation of the aathorities, dis- 
playing the one now there to be seen." 

How far is this story founded on fact P And 
are there en^avings of this portrait, boUi before 
it was submitted to the cleaning of Mr. Collins, 
and also since '* his manipulation '* made it still 
more " interesting " ? ^ H. 

" CosifoGOHiES." — Can any correspondent in- 
form me where I can find the best account of the 
Cosmogonies of the ancient Eastern nations ? 


" Dombsticatb." — In Gibbon's Memoirs of 
Himself (yoh 1. p. 60, in Dr. Smith's recent edi- 
tion of Gibbon's Rome)y I find the following pas- 

"The Mallets received me with civility and kindness, 

and (if I may nse Lord CbesterSeld's words) I 

was soon domestieated in tbeir honse." 

Why is "domesticated" called Lord Chester- 
field's word P Does it occur in his writings P It 
is italicised in the original. S. C. 

DuBUJUO. — What were the limits or bounda- 
ritt around the royal palace, within which duel- 

ling became a Star Chamber offence in the reign 
of James I. P Also, the penafties attaching to thfi 
offence P Aw Old Subsgbibbb. 

The Hobsb-shoe Club. — Will A. A., Poets' 
Corner, or any other correspondent, have the 
kindness to tell me the meaning and the date of 
the above denomination for a club P Is it derived 
from the name of the table, triclinium, at a Roman 
CcenaP The Romans had, I believe, no word to 
exactly express the horse-shoe shape, though at a 
recherche supper (see pictures in Francis* Horace)^ 
the table was set out with three couches on which 
the guests reclined, placed somewhat in the shspe 
of a norse-shoe. I read in a Somersetshire paper 
a few weeks since, that the Horse-shoe Club at 
Shepton-Mallet had just held their annual meet- 
ing. At first I took this to be a local or a fancy 
title assumed for the nonce, like the Odd Fellows* 
Club, and the hundred-and-one other names given 
to convivial institutions in the present day of 
jovial societies. But I have been since shown a 
private letter, written some sixty years ago to 
his wife in London, by the late Sir Thomas ]num- 
mer when he was on circuit in Wales, and in a 
postscript to his letter he adds, " We had a de« 
lightful reunion last night at our Horse-shoe 

It would seem, therefore, that the barristers on 
that, and probably on other circuits, were wont 
to hold a convivial meeting under this name, one 
of the Noctes Ambrosiana, "the feast of reason and 
the flow of soul," which literary men have always 
been fond of celebrating at stated periods, literaUy 
as an amusement after their professional toils; 
and we may easily imagine what sparkliBg wit» 
and piquant repartees were bandied about at the 
Horse-shoe Club by the *' learned brothers," at 
the conclusion of a weary Welsh circuit. 

Qubbn's Gabdbhb. 

Joseph of Abimathba.^- About a year ago, at 
one of our watering-places, I bought a handful of 
old tracts of a very miscellaneous description. 
Amongst them was one bearing the following 

'*The History of that Holy Disciple that begged the 
Body of bur Lord and Saviour Jeaus Christ, who buried 
the Body of our Blessed Saviour in a new Sepulchre of 
his own. Also the occasion of his travelling into Eng- 
land and preaching in Glastonbury, where is still growing 
that noted White Thorn which buds every Christmas-day 
in the Morning, blossoms at Noon, and tadw away at 
Night. To which is added, a particular Account of the 
Knight who pierced our Blessed Saviour's Side with a 
Spear ; and also an exact description of the fine Cloth of 
Svndonia, in which Joseph of Arimathea wrapped our 
Blessed Lord when he was buried." 

The title-page bears a rude woodcut of the 
Saviour upon the cross, but no printer's name or 
date, and the bottom part of the last leaf is torn 
away. It also wants pp. 3, 4, 5, 6. On page 9 

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there is a cat of tb^abbey at Olastonbiiry, and 
on page 10 a cut of um eelebrated thora. It it 
altogrethcr a 16 page tract.* 

The tract is much shattered and is eridentlj of 
considerable age. I have inquired of several col- 
lectors of scarce tracts, but can find no account of 
this particular one. Can any of your readers in- 
fbrm me where a perfect copy may be seen, and 
where a Ml account of the tradition of the white 
ti^orn may be read ? T. B. 

Edwamd Miltok's «' Taavvu;* ^ There exMts 
IB Dutob a Tery intarofting book» under th« titW 

• E4awwd II tllMi'f* Bncslseh Edelmans^ Zetdasasoia 
ea CWmkwaartitfs Zs^ea Und-Bei««i ; doM Kgirpten, 
WMt4i¥UeBw Penisoi Turkysn. Ooet-IadUei^ en d'san* 

Kmende GewesleD i bebQlzsode eea zser naanwkenrige 
chrijving <!Ur geDODmde Luden, beneveiiB der zolrtr 
Inwoonderen Gods-dienst, Regeeriag, Zeden en eewoea- 
tea, mltiigMJ«n ▼••le s«6r vm Md» voovTallea, oogameMie 
gMchkdeniMMi. sn wond«rlijke wedsrrAriicea. ▲an^ 
99v«i«sn in 4«a jaan 1660, on gcilindigd in deo jsatq 
1,677. YerUald mt d'eigene Aanteekeoingeii ea Bneven 
run dsa gedagtsn Heer Melton, en met Tencheidene 
Jchoone Kopere Trtganren yenierd, t'AmslerdABi. By 
Jan Yeritger. Boekverkooper ia de Hartestiaat, by de 
He«regr«ll, nOS."* (In 4to, H and 4>5 k>» vith Index.) 
This woriE, as the title indicates, purports to be 
the — 

« Aeconnt of 81r (?) Edward Melton's 9tranM and 
Memorable Trarela by Sea aad by Land, Ibfonffb Kgypt, 
the Wei* Indies, Penia, Tarkfor, the East Indisi^ and 
the Goaadies adjaoeot, oadetukaa fraca 1660 to 1677." 

New it seema thb deaoription was concocted by 
the Dutch editor, from the travellar^s own notes 
and letters. It ftirther appears, that Melton spent 
two years in Tisiting Hdlaad, and triring to ao- 
oaire the native language^ which be calla &e most 
diffiouH one to learn of all languages existing. 
During this period, he must have made Duton 
firteads. These two circumstances allow us to 
annniae the possibility of Meltou^s haying en- 
truMed his MSS. to a Dutch bookseller, without 
then ever having been published in the English 
tcHMtt^. If our supposition is well founded, the 
woric would indeed be worth a translation, as it is 
full of anecdote and adventure. 

JoHK H, V4K Liimvp, 

ZQTst, Ji4y 22, IBBh 

PsonnaoR Lkoato*s Mvsxmr. — Further in- 
ftrmatioa respecting the museum of the late IVo'* 
Ibsaor Legated to be seen in the Hosnital of Santa 
Maria Nuova, at Florence> will muoh oblige. In 
J. J. Jarres* JhHrn JS^hts tmd P^ptd Piniu^im, 
pp. 329, 330, 1856, thk is mentioned as bemg a 
collection of animal substances petrified by Fro« 
feasor Legato*s process (the secret of which died 
mid ^^' ""^ ^** *^*y retained their colours 
ebarM^ " Amosaic table formed by sections 

of^fTieit/e^?*^ «ae of ifae aameroua obap-booka 

of kuman bonea, biaiii, ko^ m mentioiMd ; and 

the' " . . - - 

the bust of a yo«ng girl perfectly preserved, ^ the 
hur soft and tress-like as in life.^ J. P. 

Captuk Johw Mbabbs. — Can any of your 
readers inform me where I can find any biography 
or account of this officer, who is said to have been 
an Arctic discoverer about half a Q^tury ago f 

Poets* Corner. 

Panwra* Arnica oa Gbests. <— Accarding to the 
laws of heraldry, has «a priest any rigbt to bear 
either creat or wrms ? KoTa4» 


** In abort, we were too often reminded fin Gibbon} of 
that great man, Mr^ Prig the anetioneep, wkoaa naaaer 
waa so iaknitahfy ftae^ tkat he had m mash to my apoai 
a ribbon as a Rai^haeL" — Poisoa ta Ttavi8» qaotad U 
amith'a GHUhh voL i. p. 123. 

Who was Mr^ Frig the auctioneer? A real 
parse% or a eharactar in fiction ? & G« 

SsLivwxNniiiQ Watckbs. — la there any "at- 
tachment *' by which watchea can be wound up 
without any loose key ? If ae, can the plan ba 
adapted to all watches? Several patents have 
been talked of, but have any ever oeen carried 
out, and where can the arrangement be adapted tq 
an old watch ? Estb, 

Majob-Gbn. Sdwaba Yimnuomm. -*-* Can any 
otjQUT readers tell me to what family beloi^^ 
Major-(7eneral Edward Whitaore^ who waa at the 
siege of Louiabwrgi and remained. there as g^ 
venMT after its oapture in 176&? He waaoolonial, 
29od foot^ in 17fl9^ and I tiunk lient.-eolonel, Sdtb 
fbot, 1T4T. He was drowned in Boston hai^ur. 
Dec. 11, 1761, aged aeventv years, and was buriea 
with military honours under the King*s Chapel, 
Boston, as appears by the account in the journals 
of the day, I feel positive he did not belong to 
the family at Xhurstanton, co. Chester, or A[?ey, 
CO. Salop. He left several children. He had 
with him some 2700/. in specie and valuables, as 
also eight servants. W, H. Wiotmobb. 

Port Loaisb Maorithia, Jkna a^ IMt 

Ibish Wolt-boo. — I find in a note to p. 11, of 
the 4th volume of the TVaasocttpii^ qf the Os* 
stonic Society f the foUoirin£ interestii^ referenda 
to a species of hotuid, wnom most of us have 
thought to have been long extinct : — 

** The only spaoimen of th^ Irish wolf«dQg now («. e. 
3L859) in Irelaaa, that we ave awarQ of, ia in the posaea- 
Bion of Mr. CoDineham Moon of Strand Street, of thia 
dty" (f, c Pablin> 

Will that gentlema«» or any ooe of Us firiends. 
favour " N. & Q.'' with a fuU description of this 
noble hound ? — perhaps the last congener of 
Bran. It is much to be hoped that he has been 
photographed. H. C. C. 

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Nicholas Tettbrsbll. — Can you fayour me 
with anj particulars of this zealous royalist, who 
conveyed King Charles IL into France after the 
battle of Worcester ? Whal eventually became of 
him f B. WxLUAiis. 

[Nicholas Tetterssll was the master of the coal-brie on 
board of which Charles II. embarked, and was sarely 
landed at Fec»ap h» Norouukly. Ike capftaiB» aCler the 
RestoratloQ, brought th» vcmoI v^ the Thames, and 
moored has opnoeite Whitehall, and procured an anniiitv 
of loot by this expedient On one occasion (Feb. 20, 
1666-7) Pepys was in his company : ** With the 'Chequer 
men to the Leg im Kiag 8lveel» and thevs had wloe for 
them ; aad there was one ia company with them* that 
was the man that got the vessel to carry over the King 
flron^ Brighthelmstone, who had a pension of 200L per 
annum, but ill paid, and the man is looking after gettmg 
of a prise- ship to live by; but the trouble is, that this 
poor maa, who hath leoaived ao part of his money thiBse 
four years, and is ready to starve alsMSt, must yet pi^ 
to the PoU Bill for this peaston. He told me several pat- 

tioriars of the KisgV comiag thkhen which waa mlfftity 
pleasant, and shews how mean a thing a King is, aow 
subject to fall, and bow like other men he is in his afflic- 
tions.** TetterseU lies buried in the churchyard of St. 
Nicholas, Biightom where ufon a bl^elii Bsarbls stoaa is 
the foUoa^g inscription: *" Captain Nieholas TeUeiseU, 
through whose pradence, valoor, and loyalty Charlea tha 
Second, Kins of England (after he had escaped the swor4 
of bis metcuess rebels, and his forces received a fatal 
overthrow at Worcester, Sept 3, 1601), was ftUthftilly 
preserved and conveyed into mnce, departed this life the 
26th day of July, 1674"] 

BuQor GisTRaix.— ^In the title-page of the 
CktrieHan IruiUuUs of Bishop GgatrelU he is e^led 
^^h^ Itotd Slisbop of Cheater/* which is obviously 
suiceptiUfi of a different meaning from " the ItUe 
Right Key. Franeis Gaa^reU, Lord Bishop^" &c^ and 
see«M to imply that he had reigned bis. bishopric 
before he died. Can anyof your rq^derasfy wb«t 
waatbefaetP CL 


[This Is a cooMnoA hut tnaooiaate axpreasiomfor whiob 

the publisher of tba/iuSMSf musS ha holdea tsspovs; 
At his death on Nov. 14, 172^ this learned prelate wa9 
stiU on the episcopal throne of Chester.] 

Samubi. Bochabv. «r^ I possess a copji of Eai- 
larmin's ImtUuHone* Htibrmcay which ooataias the 
awtograpk of Saganel Bookaart, with the foUowing 
rem^ in Latin and Hebrew : — 

** Dono dodft amico suo Johaimi Ta* , anno letO.** 

fyon p:w nnn fm 

The latter part of thq surname has been cnt off 
by the binder, but it is preserved in the Hebrew ; 
and I am desirous to be informed how the name 
js to be read — Tapinan«or Tafinan, or otherwise Y 
And who this fViend of Bochart*s was ? 

Thomas H. Crombk. 

rl'he party referred to appears to have been J. Tapin, 
or Tapiuns, to whom Bochart addresses several of his 
TracUtes. •*J. Tapino suo" (S. Boch., Opera omnia, 
1712,11022; see also col 902, 904). Bochart addresses 

Tapin as a much esteemed firiend (" Frater charissim^ 
atone observande plurimum," col. 1022); as a scholar 
(**Vir emditissime,** 904); and as a divine (•« Vir reve- 
rende,'* 1036). The tractate De voce Colcha, is addressed 
to the Bev. da Manoit Tapin, possibly a relative of the 

Hogabth's Toub. — A late writer says the vor- 
siied account of this celebrated ramble was by 
Forrest. But Hone (Table Booh, vol. ii. pp. 29^, 
3(^,) says the prose account was by Forrest, and 
that it was afterwards turned into verae by the 
wett-known antiquary^ the Rev. Jdr. €k>stHng, 
author of the Tottr in Ccmterlntry^ Which « 
right? A. A. 

Poets* Comer. 

[In 9ogarth's Works, by Nichols and Stsevens, i. 4% 
it 18 stated, that Forrest wrote the Journal ; a transcript 
of which was left in the hands of the Rev. Wm. Goetling, 
who wrote an iasitaSion of it i« Hadihrastio verse ; twenty 
copies osJy of which were printed in 1781 as a literaiy 
curiosity. The editors^ however, have reprinted it in the 
Appen^Ux, L 493.] 

Obbmamob. — Whence this term, to signify 
" great guns,** and so give name to one of our 
departments of state ? A. B. R. 

[It appears that certain men of arms ware formerly 
termed ** Gendarmes dea ordonn/anets i" that these were 
persons who had been areherty and that to them was 
committed the charge of the oraWeFy. Henca It has beea 
supposed that the single word ofdomnrnte (whence ord^ 
mamee) wMj hi^ve besn sahasqusntly applied ta ** grasj^ 



(2-* S. xiL 71.) 

I wish to correct an error in the statement 
published in last week*s ^* N. & Q.,** respecting 
the children of Sir R. Steele. He had two sons, 
namely, Richard and Eugene, both of whom died 
before their father { and two daughters, Elizabeth 
and Mary, who survived him. 

In Ormerod*s Cheshire, im early pedigree of 
the Steeles of Weston, copied from Harleian 
MSS. 2040, f. 340^ ia published ; which is further 
extended, 9s relates to the collater^ branches^ 
in the records ef Heralds* College; where the 
marriage of Lord Chancellor Steele with Elizabeth 
Grodfrey, in the pedigree of that family, is also 
entered. I have lately heerd from my friend, 
Mr. Wm. Steele of Dublin, that Sir R. Steele's 
mother was a Miss Devereux, of the county of 
Wexford; who ia described by her sen (Toiler, 
No. 181) as " a very beautiful woman* and of a 
noble spirit.** 

I should have stated in my former communica- 
tion, that I am indebted principally to Foss*s 
Judges of England, and the autnorities therein 

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quoted, for the facts relating to Lord Chancellor 
Steele. Wm. Edw. Stbwjs, M.D. 


Will your correspondent, Db. Steblb, haTQ the 
kindness to add, to the information he gives rela- 
tive to this Irish Lord Chancellor, the date of his 
death, if recorded on his monument ; and whe- 
ther the inscription gives any other, and what, 
particulars about him ? 

I presume Db. Stbbi.b means the port of Ram- 
ney, and not Romsey ; but I do not find that the 
Lord ChanceUor was a Member of the Long 
Parliament of 1640 at all. What is your corre- 
spondent's authority, on which he founds thb 
information ? Edwabd Foss. 

It has always struck me as a strange and un- 
accountable thing, that there should have been 
any mystery in regard to the name of Sir Richard 
Steele 8 first wife. That she was known, after 
some fashion, to her successor, appears firom the 
letter in which Miss Sourlock informs her mother 
of her engagement to Steele, whom she goes on to 
describe as "the husband of the person whose 
funeral (she) attended.** And so Steele himself, 
in his letter to Mrs. Scurlock, the mother, tells 
her, in allusion to his means of living, of a certain 
estate in Barbados which had devolved upon 
him^ in right of his deceased wife. Nichols, the 
laborious and intelligent antiquary, who published 
an edition of Steele's Letters, confesses that he 
was never able to discover the maiden name of 
the lady ; but he generously adds, that at least 
nothing is known against her reputation. In fact, 
that the concealment of her name was the result 
of mere accident. It is, however, known that she 
had succeeded unexpectedly to the Barbados 
estate in consequence of the death of her only 
brother, who had been captured by a French 
privateer on his way to England, and died abroad. 
Steele, as a matter of course, soon got rid of the 
estate, the sale of which was negotiated by Row- 
land Tryon, his attorney, in 1708. 

I shall feel obliged to your correspondent, Db. 
Stbblb of Dublin, for any further information 
respecting this lady, whom Nichols supposes to 
have been connected with some Kentish family. 



(2"^ S. xi. 367, 457, 491.) 

I am inclined to agree with R. J. Aixbh and 
W., notwithstanding the erudition displayed by F. 
Chance in deriving an/A^m from arUiphon, The 
remarks of T. J. Buckton, E. C. IL, and Db. 
Rimbadlt are also deserving of much considera- 
tion. Mr. Finlayson, in his Collection of An- 

thems, Dublin, 1852 (Herbert), thus defines the 
word : — 

** A corraption of the Gr. •« Antipbon.** Originally a 
Psalm or Hymn (jpikoni\ the verses of which were song 
in alternation by opposite (jantCs sides of the choir, as 
the Daily Psalms are now chanted in Cathedral Churches. 
At present it means any Hymn or Sacred Song. Some 
derive the term from Anti'l^fmn or Antk^mn, which 
signifies nearly the same as AnHphon,** 

In Sir John Hawkins* History of Musie^ vol. iiL 
pp. 250 — 258, we find an account of the origin of 
our English Anthems in the reign of Edward VI. 
concluding thus : — 

** To .which species of harmony, for want of a better, the 
name Anthem, a corruption of * Antiphon,* was given." 

In an article on ** Church Music,*' in the London 
(Quarterly) Review for April, 1861, we read, 
p. 49: — 

** The English word Akthbm is, according to some, a 
corruption of the Greek Ivri^pof, through the Anglo- 
Saxon Ante/en^ and later, Antaup, It has also been 
derived, and periiapt more correctly, through the Anglo- 
Saxon word Anthtmn, from inrrC and Hiip^tJ* 

Again, in a note on p. 62 (op, ctt.), it is stated : 

**The terms Ahthbii and Aktiphok mean much alike ; 
atrrl'iiiLvot referring to the method of singing the words, 
while &rr/-^yoc had reference to the alternate vocal per- 
formance only." 

Now this seems to me the correct account of 
the matter : — An antiphon is a musical term sig- 
nifying merely an alternate vocal performance : 
an anuiem is an ecclesiastical term — a hymn, sung 
after the manner of the first Christians — (" in- 
vicem,** Pliny tells us). In the substance of this 
F. Chance agrees, while, strangely enough, he 
derives antem from antiphona, his conclusion l>eing, 
*^antem must, therefore, be divided ante-m, the m 
being all that is left of phona or ^k^.** I must 
confess I cannot see any trace of ^wfi in the 
letter m, even by the most elaborate deduction ; 
and as to hrBviivos being " a Greek word coined 
for the occasion,** of course it was, and so were a 
great many ecclesiastical terms both Greek and 
Latin. He speaks of "the only connexion be- 
tween anihem and cmthvmn^* being " that they are 
both compounded with iunl^ and both have the 
same signification.** Now I hold such connexion 
to be stronger than that existing between m in 
antem and phona or ^wH). It is scarcely fair to 
assume the Anglo-Saxon word anthymn to have 
been the creation of a pedant, anxious to display 
his learning. Johnson was no doubt dogmatic in 
assertion at times, but the occurrence of the 
phrase ** Anthymns of Joy '* in Barrow*s Ser- 
mons, published in 1678, would lead one to sup- 
pose such to have been the common spelling of 
the word at that time. Perhaps those who have 
access to old collections of the words of anthems 
could give some information on that point. 

T. W. Bblchbb, M.D, 

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I cannot flee anything in the quotation from 
BarTow*B Sermon to lead one to suppose that he 
meant to define an Anthem as a piece pf music 
sung antiphonally. But the spelling used b^ Bar- 
row shows that, like Dr. Jolmson, he considered 
that the word was derived from b^fcrot, and 
should therefore be written cmthymn. 

Certain it is that, whatever mav formerly have 
been its signification and usage, the word now b^ 
no means necessarily conveys the idea of anti- 
phonal singing. 

Indeed, there are many anthems which consist 
altogether of full chorus, and even verse or solo 
parts are seldom sung from different sides of the 
choir ; but, on the contrary, it is usual in many 
cathedrals for the choristers on each side to take 
the solo parts turn about on alternate davs: so 
that the solos are sung ^ ex parte Decani " one 
day, and ^ Cantoris" the next. 

Indeed, with all deference to Db. Kimbaitlt, 
whose authority on such a subject all will allow, 
I venture to assert that the only parts of our 
choral service which are really antiphonal, and as 
such entitled to the name of anthems (supposing 
the received derivation to be correct), are the 
(non-metrbal) daily psalms and hymns which are 
sung antiphonally to a chant, and such other 
music as is arranged *' Cantoris " and '* Decani.** 

No doubt the word ^ori^nally conveyed the 
meaning its derivation implied, and probably still 
retains it in the Roman ritual ; but I think it 
must be admitted that it ha8_lo8t that meaning in 
our English usage. 

The word does not occur in]ithe present autho* 
rised translation of the.Bible (1611) ; and in the 
Prayer Book (1662), accordioff to Green*s Cou" 
coraaHce, it u to be found but Uiree times, viz. : 

1. Kubric after the third Collect at Morning 
and Evening Prayer : — 

*' % In Qnirea and Places, where they Sing, here fol- 
loweth the Anthem.** 

2. Rubric before the "Venite** at Morning 
Pirayer : — 

** % Then shall be said or sung this Ptalm following : 
except on Easter-day, upon which another ArUhem 
is appointed," &c 

3. Rubric before the Collect for Easter-day : — 
**^ At Morning Prayer, instead of the Psalm. * O come 

let OS sing,' &c, these Anihemg shall be sung or 

Now it is plain, that in the two latter places, 
the word must have a different meaning from its 
present one. For who evej heard of a modern 
anthem being "said,** even admitting that word 
to mean *' plain song ** P 

And accordingly, I find prefixed to the Collect 
Hon ofAiUKems nmg in the Dublin Cathedrcda^ edited 
by the Rev. John Finlayson (a very creditable 
specimen of Irish typography), a definition of the 
term oBUkem; where, aft^r giving the derivi^tion 

nearly as contained in Dr. Rimbault's reply, he 
adds: — 

** It may be proper to mention that the < Anthems,' 
which on Easter Sunday morning are appointed to be 
used instead of the Yenite, are so called from their being 
short sentences; the word 'Anthems' in this instance^ 
by a pecnliar usage, signifying 'Texts,' and not having 
reference to the way in which they should be ' sonir or 

In illustration of this view, I quote the follow- 
ing remarks from Dr. Jebb*8 valuable work on 
the Chord Service : — 

" According to theose of the Church of England, the 
word Anthem, as employed in this place [No. 1. men- 
tioned above, observe, not No. 8.], means a text or pas- 
sage from Scripture, or from the Liturgy, or a metrical 
Hymn set to ornate music ; not after the manner of a 
chant, but to varied melodies." 

In this sense it might be derived from *Avd&rinat 
an ** offering," t. e. of praise of Grod. Or could 
there be some recondite allusion to that great 
'AvcC0c/ia, or commination, when Moses divided the 
Israelites on Mount £b(d and Mount Gerizim, to 
curse and bless alternately ? Improbable as this 
appears, it must be admitted that it was a memor- « 
aole instance of antiphonal action. 

The weight of evidence, so ably adduced by 
Mb. Cbahcb, Mb. Bucktob, and F. G. H., is cer- 
tainly in favour of the received derivation from 
oKTi (anti), and ipcttni (fonee) ; and it may, there- 
fore, seem rash on my part to offer another 

However, I venture to suggest that the word 
may be derived from otm (anti), and Otfut, (theme) 
— a subject handled from opposite sides. This 
derivation is simpler and more obvious, and free 
from the phonetic difficulties of the other. 

John Ribtoit Gabstin, M.A. 

Merrion Street, Dublin. 

I will leave the controversy regardmg the deri- 
vation of the word " anthem " to your correspon- 
dents more learned in etymology than myself, and 
will only remark that the best authorities I have 
been able to consult — via. Dr. Hook, Kev. John 
Jebb, A. S. Stevens, Commentary on the Book of 
Common Prayer^ Wheatly's Common Prayer, edi- 
tors of Parish Choir^ and others, quite agree with 
your esteemed correspondent Db. Rimbault ; 
but wish to ask information as to the meahing of 
the word. In King Edward VI.'s Prayer Book, the 
two collects in the Service for the Visitation of 
the Sick, "Remember not Lord," &c., and " O 
Saviour of the world " were called anthems ; bke- 
wise the preacher's text was at the time of the 
Reformation called the anthem. ^ , 

Neither these two collects nor the text of the 
sermon can ever have been intended to be sung. 
Query, In what sense is the word anthem used 
before these passages ? L. F. 1^ 

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(2>«S. xi.424; xu. 12, 49.) 

Yoiur oorreipQiMlwt iMP^Tima hao bettu befoi« 
hand with me in pvbtitbhig a suggetticNi I hxw 
long intended to bring before the pubHc, eitiier in 
the pages of a review, or In a pamphlet devoted to 
the purpose. I am glad that m^ intention has 
been thus anticipated, fbr such records are disap- 
pearing daily, and there is but one way bj whioh 
their destruction cau be stayed. 

The proposed act of paniaaent fbottUlfiHro- 
vide — 

I. That « fit person be appointed In each dia- 
trici to copy dl sepulchral inacri^tions at preaent 
existing in churches, chapab» bi«riftl*gVQUndm Mid 
all other places of hun¥ui sepulture whatsoever, 

2« That such eopies be made in duplicate: one 
copy to be deposited in the office of the Registrar- 
General for birtha, deaths, and marriages, to be 
always opea for public use* subject to such regu- 
lalions as apply to other documeats in that office ; 
^e oUier cony to be deposited with the registers 
of the churco, chapel* or buriaKground whim the 
inscriptions exist In cases where there are no 
such registers, tlie copy tq be deposited in th« 
same custody as the registers of the parish wher« 
the inscriptions art situate,* 

3. That it be the duty of the ministers of all 
churches and chapels, and all persons having 
charse of barial<grounda* to send yearly, between 
the nrst and the thirty-iu^t di^ of Januarjr to the 
office of the Regiatrar-General> copies of all inscrip- 
tions that shall have been put up in such churches^ 
chapels, or burial-grounds 4unng the past year* 
and also to eater the same ip a book to be pro- 
vided for that purpose. 

4. That no churchwarden, rector, vicar, or 
curate, or any other person whatsoever do perma- 
nently remove any tombstone from any church, 
diapd, or burial-ground without the necessity of 
sucn $ courae l^ing shown to, and permission 
given by, some civil authority + (to be oy the act 
provided) ; and that in caae of pern^lssion being 
granted for their removal, the inscriptions be 
printed infidl in the county newspaper, at the ex- 
pence of the parish or of the persons interested in 
their rejnoval. 

5. That in case of temporary removal being 
necessary, such removal do not take place without 
an order being first granted by the said dvil 
authority; before the granting of whicli order the 
churchwardens or other persona in the like place 
of trust and authority shall sign an engagement 

* lliis applies to raioed churches, some private burial- 
grounds, brasses, and other monuments in museums, and 
probably to the gravestones of morderers and suicides. 

\ The Secretary of Sute for the Home Department* or 
the Justices of the Peace in Quarter Session. 

that they will, within a given period, Ntum the 
tombstones to their places, and wiU, during ihe 
tima of their removal, cause all due car« to be 
takea lor their preaorvaftion* 

The word kmbslam aa the tw« last clauses to 
be undeNtood to include all effigies, ooats of arms, 
and all other ueMonals of the dead in whatevev 
material they may be executed* evea whea uaac- 
compaaied by any verbal iaacriptioa. 

The above is but a crude and informal sketch 
of what such an act of parliament should eoB&prise. 
It ia wanting, indeed* w uMiai of tbe essentiala of 
aa act, except verboaily ; but, I eonceive, that it 
shadows forth, if it does aot embody, the form of 
lesndatioa that is required. 

The kind of pewoan who ouffht to be employed 
to make the oepiea, the siae of the districta, aad 
maay other matters of detail need not be discussed 
now. It is obvious that the traaacriber must be a 
peraaa set only of liboal edueation, but also pos- 
seastaff that kind of knowledge whioh fita him to 
read the eontraoted Latin, and uaeoutk English of 
oar eariv inacvip^ans, 

I ahatt be glad to receive oommunicatioas on 
thia aubjeet from peraons taking an interest in 
it, who have foota ta eommuaieate or smnestioas 
to make. Edwabd »lcock. 

Bottesford Manor, Brigg. 

Tou are indeed doing a fpreat service in drawing 
attention to this subject { it is very strange that a 
matter of such importance, and at the same time 
of such frequent occurrence, has so long escaped 
exposure. Perhaps you will allow me to add my 
mite of information to the heap. 

Some years ago I was seeking in ihe church- 
yard of an old parish in the north of Ehigland 
for some ancient tomb-stones belonging to my 
own family, and was surprised and grieved at 
not being able to find any, except of a much more 
recent date than those I was most anxious to see, 
and which I knew were in existence but a few 
years before. As these stones were among the 
very oldest in the church-yard, I mentioned the 
fact to the vicar, with whom I had the pleasure 
of being personslly acquainted; and upon my 
expressing a foar that they had, in some unac- 
countable waj, disappeared, he replied very 
coolly, " nothing is more probable, for it is a rule 
with us to destroy the oldest stones, to make room 
for the new"! I 

I was in that same church-yard at a subse* 
quent period, and I^observed that a flat head- 
stone, with a Latin inscription, whioh had often 
attracted my attention when a child, had disap- 
peared entirely. This belonged to a family of 
respectability tnat no longer resided in the parish. 
Exactly over tiie place were some new grave- 
stones, surrounded by a massive iron railing. In 
speaking of the disappearance of the well-re- 

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membered Latin inflcrlptloii to a geotleman of th< 
place, he told me, that an influential j^erson in 
the neighbourhood wbhed to have a family vanlti, 
as near the chancel window as possible ; this hap* 
pened to ba the site of the stone in question, but 
of course it was sacrificed to the fancy of thia 
wealthy Gothl! When adergymon, whom we 
may suMKise to have some pride in the anti- 
quities 01 his church, can coolly consent to such 
atrocities, can we wonder that so many valuable 
r^ica of the past are barbarously destroyed F 

It may be difficult in some cases, especially on 
crowded parishes, to preserve stones and mon-a« 
ments firom disappearing in the course of time. I 
speak of those at present existing. But it appears 
to me, nothing can be more easy than effectufUly 
to preserve every inscription that for the future 
may bo pnt on stone iff tablet^ by th^ folU)wii>g 

As no stone or monument can be erected nor 
any inscription added to any old one, without the 
consent of tiie elergyman, who for that pivilege 
receives a fee, I propose that each churon should 
have a ^^ Registry of Xaacriptions," in which a 
certified verbatim and literatim eoj^y of every in^ 
scviption should be written at the time when suoh 
fee IS paid. It would then have the same validity 
as the register of baptisms cr deaths, and it would 
place it beyond the power, of an^ ill-natured or 
mterested person of destroying evidenoe, in many 
cases of sudi immense value» 

It is possible that numy lamilies might biffin 
hj having all memorials inserted in this "Se« 
gister,** for which a reasonable fee ought to be 
paid, and thus taking care that whatever is aov 
m existence should be preserved ; for we must re- 
member that, in some cases, inscriptions on damp 
or perishable materials^ &o., fkil in the course of 
time, to be legible. 

I just remember being much shocked last year, 
in viaiting the old church of St. Mary's, bear* 
borough. At the foi^t of the steps by which it is 
entered from the north, there is a mutilated brass. 
I veij much doubt whether it was in its original 
pMoeftion ; at least a person with anv lov^ for an^ 
tiquity would not nave left; it there) for had 
architect or clergyman ^ied to have put it where 
preservation was impossible, and destruction cer« 
tain, no better place could have been fbund. 
The thousands of footsteps that must pass over it 
ever^ yeta^ will soon oUiterate everv trace of 
inscription or 6gurc. H. £« W|i«kin0O1|. 

The judicious remarks of your oovrespondent 
Mb. Peacock (2"< S. xii. 12.), on the subject of 
the perishing memorials of the dead in the nume- 
rous churches and graveyards of our country, are 
especially applicable In the case of large towns ; 
where, since the establishment of cemeteries, all 
intramural burials have now ceased. In this town, 

for instance, we have a large parish (St. Mary's), 
the registers of which, some nflty years ago, were 
totally destroyed by fire, — the only remaining 
records of those buried there are to be sought 
from the thickly-strewn headstones in the exten- 
sive burying-ground surrounding the church. Two 
other parishes, All Saints and St. John's, have 
detached graveyards, full of memoriab of the past 
generation : the latter having been united with 
another parish and the old place of sepulture^ 
long since deserted. I know not what tne pro- 
posal of the Society of Antiquaries in 18^8, al<> 
luded to by Mn, Peacogx, may have been ; but 
it has long seemed to me desirable that some steps 
should be taken by gentlemen favourable to the 
study of antiquities : say, by the formation of 
local associations for the purpose of preserving 
the fleeting records in our churches and church- 
yards ; giving the names and dates of every iuo 
scription so far as intelligible, and placing the 
same in perpetual preservation for future genera- 
tions. In the places above indicated, many of 
the slabs are so worn and faded as to be scarcely 
readable ; while others of the middle and close of 
the seventeenth century are still fresb, and but 
litUe impaired. I would willingly cooperate with 
any who may be desirous of initiatmg such a 
movement in this neighbourhood. And if the 
plan were adopted in other towns and rural dia* 
triots where tne registers, from various causes, 
have ceased to afford the testimony desired, a 
fund of valuable information would be created ; 
and the existence of such associations would also 
afford opportunity for the collection and preserv 
ation of^ coins, and other relics of the past, pos^ 
seseing any topographical interest, and which may 
serve to enhance the labours of the local historian^ 
Mutual cooperation, for a common object, would 
thus lighten and relieve tbe often toilsome path 
of those who. devote their time and talents to the 
compilation of historical and archaeological me- 
morials of the locality in which they reside, and 
very much remains yet to be done in this way for 
many towns rich in hidden stores of information 
that wait the revealing hand of the faithful chroni- 
cler with the aids I have indicated. 

As bein^ not remotely ^connected with this sub» 
ject, permit me to place on record the fact, that 
Southampton has at last discharged a debt of 
honour and gratitude she has too long owed to 
«« her most distinguished son " — « " the great and 
good" Dr, Isaac Watts ; and effectually removed 
the stigma hitherto resting on the town that gave 
him birth, that no memorial lias existed to mark 
that fact and the esteem in which he is held by 
all classes of men. A beautiful statue of Sicilian 
marble, on a pedestal of polished granite, on which 
are bas-reliefs of the first named material illus-t 
trating the most prominent features of his cha- 
racter and attainments --altogether a noble work 

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of art, some twenty feet id height, the statue 
Itself being eight feet — now graces one portion of 
the public grounds in this town, named from this 
circumstance the " Watts* Park.** It was inau- 
gurated, under the roost favourable auspiees, by 
the Right Hon. Earl of Shaftesbury, on Wednes- 
day, 17th July ; being the 187th anniversary of 
the Doctor*s birth-day, and the ceremony was 
assisted by the leading ministers of religion, ac- 
companied by the civic functionaries of toe town, 
and other bodies, — all classes uniting together on 
the occasion, and evincing their cordial svmpathy 
and cooperation in the event The sculptor, R. 
C. Lucas, Esq., of Chilworth Tower, near this 
town, also executed the statue of Dr. Johnson at 
Lichfield ; and this later effort of his genius was 
cbaracteris&i by one of the speakers of the day, 
^* as one of the most beautiful specimens of genius, 
of artistic skill, of propriety of adaptation, that 
has ever come from tne hands of a sculptor.** 
An interesting summary of the life and labours of 
Dr. Wattfl, the prize poems composed for the 
occasion, and the programme of the proceedings, 
has been published under the appropriate title of 
Memorials commemorative of the inauffuration, 
bv our enterprising fellow-townsman Mr. T. G. 
Crutch, bookseller, 154, High Street; and is 
accompanied by views of the statue on all sides, 
and other points of interest connected with it. 
Other engagements, including a soirie attended 
by gentlemen from Grantham, Ipswich, and other 
places, combined to render the day one of the 
most pleasant and memorable in the annals of the 
town ; and also as marking an era in the nation's 
progress towards a just recognition of the claims 
of character, as the truest basis of reward and 
merit, and the display of right feeling in render- 
ing a tribute to truth and goodness so long with- 
held. Heitkt W. S. Tatix>k. 

(2»* S. xii. 9.) 
In reply to the inquiry of Z. Z., I would sug- 
gest that the probable reason for the almost uni- 
versal use of seals on deeds was that by far the 
larger proportion of people in earlier days were 
unable to sign their names even. It was certainly 
this that caused the Normans — a nation ever 
readier with the sword than with the pen — to seal 
their deeds, and thus the seal being an essential 
part of the document, if it were torn off, the latter 
was considered to be cancelled. The more an- 
cient seals bore various devices according to the 
fancy of the owner, but it was not until the reign 
of llichard I. that armorial bearings were used. 
In later times a monogram, badge, motto, or rebus 
^'^w '**°* the name of the owner was frequently 
substituted ; many curious and interesting es^am- 

ples of which will be found in Lower s excellent 
work, Curiosities of Heraldry, Is Z. Z. correct 
in stating that seals were used by the Anglo- 
Saxons on legal documents? Blackstone states, 
on the authority of '* all our ancient historians,*' 
that the reverse was the case, deeds being then 
executed by signing the name with a cross pre- 
fixed ; those unable to write making a cross only, 
which latter custom is in use at the present time. 
Lord Coke in his Institutes mentions a charter of 
King Edwyn, dated a.d. 956, to which was a6ixed 
the seal of the king, and also that of Elfwinus, 
Bishop of Winchester; but, as Blackstone ob- 
serves, even if this be a genuine document, *' it 
does not follow that this was the usage among 
the whole nation.** Lord Coke also states that 
the charter of King Offa, whereby he save the 
Peter-pence, was under seal. Edward Sbe Con- 
fessor*s charter to Westminster Abbey is under 
seal, but then he had been educated in Nor- 
mandy. The Normans, on their settlement in 
this country, introduced their mode of executing 
formal documents, and from that time signing was 
not necessary to the due execution of a deed» 
until the Act 29 Car. II. c 3 revived the Saxon 
custom. The reason of the seal being attached to 
the deed by means of a string is, I apprehend, 
because the wax used was soft, and the only mode 
of fixing it was by pressing a lump round a cord or 
strip of parchment. The marks of finj^ers are 
apparent on most seals of this description. In 
addition to European nations, and those mentioned 
by Z. Z., seals were in use among the Jews and 
Persians, as we learn from various passages in the 
Holy Bible. J. A. Pn. 


(2»* S. ix. 248, 334, 373, 415, 451 ; x. 274.) 

Ms. J. D. Edoab, having obligingly thrown 
some additional light on the imperfectly chroni- 
cled history of the above family, I am induced to 
offer a few more remarks on the subject. 

Mb. Edgab alludes to my correction of J. Y, 
N. H.*s Note, in No. 451 ; but he seems not to 
have discriminated between my refutation of a 
portion of J. F. N. H.*s statement and my correC' 
tion of another. 

I did not intend to deny the general statement 
of J. F. N. H., that the Edgars of Auchingram- 
mont were a branch of Wedderly, for the fol- 
lowing reasons : — 

1. There is no complete (or even complete in 
one line) pedigree of the Wedderly, or Kethick 
families., The estate of Wedderly descended to 
the late Admiral Edgar, as heir in tail. On a re- 
ference to the Commissariat of Lauder, &c., where 
the wills of some of the Edgars of Wedderly, in 
the seventeenth century, are recorded, it is at 
once seen thikt there hav^ b^^ escUnaive offshoot 

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which have never, so far as I am aware, been 
traced bj any private individual, and certainly not 
by the Scottish heralds, unless perhaps there were 
such genealogies amongst the older heraldic re- 
gisters, wbich were destroyed. 

2. Of the two branches, Kethick and PoUand, 
there is no direct proof in an tminlerrupted line, 
based on authentic records, of their descent from 
Wedderly ; and, therefore, it scarcely follows that 
the representative of the latter should also, as 
such, succeed on a failure of the line to the repre- 
sentation of eitJier of the osiers, 

3. In the case of the Wedderly succeseion there 
18 only the record, from general inquisitions, of 
the heir of eutail ; and, therefore, although Ad- 
miral Edgar was the last recognised " Wedderly,** 
there is no proof whatever that there may not 
have been descendants, in the male line, of the 
numerous cadets of the family in the sixteenth and 
seventeenth centuries gkme, who only failed to be 
recognised as such from the absence of the only 
pro<^ of the descent of the Admiral himself, viz. 
the succession to real estate. 

4. It has been the practice in Scotland to re- 
cognise a prescriptive right to bear certain arms ; 
and there is proof, not only that the Edgars of 
Auchingrammont bore the arms of Wedderly, but 
that they were never challenged in doing so, from 
certainly the commencement of the last century. 
Some remarkable antique heir-looms were also 
preserved in this family ; and so early as the mid- 
dle of last century thev purchased, foi* a younger 
son, an estate in Jamaica, to which they gave the 
name of Wedderly ; and that too at a period when, 
without some connection with the Berwickshire 
family, they would scarcely, from published in- 
formation, have selected such a name m preference 
to anv other. Handasyde Edgar, a Fellow of the 
Royal Society, and married to a Miss Simpson of 
Bounty Hall (of Lord Kenyon's family), and who 
died early in the present century, bore the Wed- 
derly arms ; as dia also his father of Auchingram- 
mont. The latter was bom in 1698 ; and married 
in 174- (2 or 3) his kinswoman, also an Edgar, 
and the daughter of James Ed^txr, W. S. of Edin- 
bureh ; whose signature is stul to be seen in the 
public records of the time, at baptisms, &c., asso^ 
ciated with that of Pringle, of Tharpillan, and 
various Berwickshire gentiemen then residing in 

The late Miss Edgar, of Auchingrammont, died 
possessed of an inheritance of ancient ground rents 
m the Barony of Sroughtoun, and the heir-looms 
before mentioned. 

The brother of Edgar, of Auchingrammont, 
about the commencement of the last century, was 
factor to the Earl of Selkirk (and I may here men- 
tion, that Auchingrammont adjoins the grounds 
of the Duke of Hamilton, at Hamilton, who was 
a cadet of a ducal house attached to the Stewarts). 

This Ed^r was named Peter, and he married 
the only chdd of the Rev. John Hay, the minister 
of . Peebles ; and was father of Lady Raeburn, 
whose first husband was a Count LesUe of Dean- 
haugh, and whose daughter married the last Yere 
of Stonebyres. 

Peter Edear lived at Marchfield, near Edin- 
burgh ; and had an only son John, who died s, p. 

I have trespassed to this extent on the patience 
of your correspondents in order, while attempting 
further elucidations, to correct any misapprehen- 
sion of my meaning in No. 451 ; and to suggest, 
that, though I do not question the fact that Mb. 
EnoAB has, up to the present moment, made good 
his claim to be a representative of Wedderly, he 
may not be sole representative. And indeed, after 
all, his may be only an interim representation ; an 
inference sufficiently justified by the imperfection 
of the evidence, pro or con : the reference in the 
herald's book, to Thomas Edgar of Glasgow, being- 
only a marginal note, unsupported by any other 
proof direct or collateral. I do not mean to say 
that there was not some unexplained presumptive 
proof; but, in justice to J. F. N. H., I think it 
should be explained that, with the exception of 
the marginal reference in question, there is an 
equally strong presumption that the correctness 
of Auchingrammont*s claims were equally pro- 

Families often lose their birthright through the 
supineness of their members, or the absence of a 
real estate. Sfal. 

China, May 28, 1861. 

Aldbimoton, Sussex (2*^ S. xi. 499 ; xii. 38.) 
— It is stranee that the newspaper story of the 
decennial douoling of the population of Aldring- 
ton should not have been sooner detected and 
contradicted, particularly as the paragraph has 
appeared, I believe, in the Brighton papers, as 
well as others. But the statement quoted by W. 
H. from the Population Tables of 1851 also calls 
for correction. It is said that, " Owing to the 
gradual encroachment of the sea, the church 
and village of Aldrington have been destroyed." 
But, whilst the gradual encroachment of the sea 
upon the chalk cliffs of the Sussex coast is noto- 
rious, and particularly on the ancient town of 
Brighthelmstone itself, it is by no means so evident 
that the sea has encroached upon the shingly 
beach of Aldrington (situated at some distance 
westward of the chalk), and the appearance is 
rather to the contrary ; and, whatever causes may 
have led to the disappearance of the old village, 
the church at least was not destroyed by the sea, 
as its ruins still exist in the ^elds at the distance 
of half a mile or more from the shore. (See the 
Rev. Arthur Hussey's Notes on the Churches of 
Kent, Sussex, and Surrey, 1862, 8vo, p. 184.) 

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It is, itt fAct> one of the many churches which 
wemft ihidcly strewn on this ooast in early tunes, 
that in modem days are surfoanded by so scanty 
a population that one wonders ihey were eTer 
erected. The adiointng parish of Hongleton has 
a population little more numerous, and tfao«igh 
its church is peHect) it is nol in ordinary ose. 
Probably at the time when the Wvald of Sussex 
was densely wooded^ the open country near the 
coast was really much mors thickly peonled than 
in modem days. J» Xh Nichols. 


John Fisubs^^ Bishop of Bxbtbb aKd Salis* 
BURT (2»* S. XII. 45.) — With reference to this 
prelate, see Lives of the Bishops of JExeter^ . re- 
cently published by the late Rev. Dr. Greorge 
Oliver* Dr. Oliver says : — 

«* Skoitly after Dr. Fishw't coasscratioa at Lambeth 
on lilh July, 1808» King Georgt IIL appointad him to 
superintend the education of his royal grand-daughter, 
the Princess Charlotte of Wales. Of this responsible 
charge he acquitted himself With exemplary propriety 
and efedit TV> makic the t^yal apferohaUoo, he was 
thuMlatad to Salisbury.'' 

Dr. Ollter adds ; — 

* The worthy Prelste died at his house, Seym^nr Street, 
London, on 8 May, 1825, aged ?•> and was intemd In 

St Qeorgs*B Chapel, WindMr." 

John Macuuh* 

PottaAlT ot CoLTTMBtre (2"* S. x5. 411, 414.) 
—The following is a description of the portrait 
mentioned as iu)oye, and hanging In the Behate 
Chamber, Albany, N» Y. : 

It b painted on wood, the size of the picture 
inside the fVame being 24 x 19^ inched. 

The portrait is three-quarter, the left side in 
front. Mead small, liie face is also three^ 
quarter; oval in shape; couiplexion brunette, 
inclined to ruddy ; age about 27. 

Hair dark auburn, short and curling, with a 
"Cowlick'* in the centre of the forehead. 

Forehead low and feebly marked. 

Eyes not well open, without expression ; eolour 
of the iris, very dark hazel, if not black. 

Eyebrows Well parted, slightly arched. 

Tfose prominent, strdght, ana not aquiline, but 
broad and high between the eyes. 

Mouth Stoall, lips thin, drawn down at the 
corners, and sharply defined. 

Chin prominent and pointed. 

Ears low on the heaa. 

A small white crimped Ml, or rufi*, surrounds 
the neck. 

Drhss, a black velvet tunic with scolloped 
sleeves gathered at the wrist in a plain tight band, 
and terminating there with a narrow white lace 
ruffle. The linmg of the tunic is red, and shows 
through the scollops. 

The right hatad holds a mariner^s compass with 

a moveable card, all in a brass^ or bronae, boa. 
The left hand is extended^ and rests on a table* 

The back-ground of ^e figure consists tii a 
dark purple curtain, discovering through an open 
widow on the left side of the picture, a view of 
a oastle^ walled town and harbour, with vessels 
in the for^round or harbour. The town seems 
to be on the side of a hill backed bv mountains. 

On tha panel beneath the window is the fol- 
lowing inscription : — 

No engraving has ever been made fVom this 
portrait, as fhr as I know, or can learn. 

E. B. O'Callaobak. 
Albany, N. T., 4tii #a1y, 188t 

BosEBBKRT ToppiNG (2*' S. xii. 47.) may have 
been so called to distinguish it from some other 
Topping, a name which would translate either 
the **top meadow,*^ or the "top or sununit.^* 
i2o«, ross^ rose in some local names refers to the 
flower ; as in Rosedale, Hosedon, and the Bavarian 
names Rossbrun, Rosshaupten, Rosenheim ^ and 
the local surnames Rosenbaum, itosenberg, Rosen- 
holm, Rosenthal, RosenmilUer. In local names in 
Great Britain^ iw, ro«, rose, rhos^ is generally of 
Celtic origin, tn Cornwall it comes ih>m the 
Cornish rose^ rds^ a valley, as in Hdskilfy^ the grove 
in the valley; Rdsvean^ the little valley; Ros^ 
iDume, the valley of alder-trees, &c. In Wales it is 
from the Webh rAaS| a moor, or coarse highland. 
Carlisle renders it» a mountain meadow, a moist 
large plain, a marsh. The Irish and Gaelic word 
ros signifies a promontory, isthmus ; in Irish also, 
a plam, arable land, a grove, a wood. Carlisle 
says that in local names in Ireland it means " the 
site of a house, town, or harbour peculiarly agree- 
able by the prospect thence ; " but Roscommon is 
by some rendered " Coeman*s marsh/* He says 
also that rou or rhas. in Scottish records, means 
also a mountain meadow, a marsh ; also a district. 
Again, ros^ in Bretagne, is the Bas Bret ro«, (pL 
rosien^ rosffou), which Le Cronidec translates 
"tertre couverte de foug^re ou de bruy^re.*' 
There is Roskofl*, "tertre du forgeron**; Ros- 
porden, Rosmadek, Roscanveli Rospez, and last, 
out not least, Rostrenen. R. b. Chabnocjk. 

Would the contributor of this interesting QttWJT 
favour me by turning to 2'*^ S. viii. 483, he will 
there find a question as to the words bm^hy borotigJL 
and burv, which has not yet been answered, and 
on which I think it probable he may be able to 
throw some light Could he also give me the 
name of the family, the subject of the following 
legend f It is said that, at the birth of the heir 
to a person of distinction in Yorkshire, it was pro* 
phesied that the child would live a short time, 
and would be drowned on such a day. When 
tibds ^ Ides of Mardi ** arrived, a servant was sent 

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to tke very top of tkis hill with the child, with 
instruciioiM not to stir all day ; the parties feel- 
ihg slire the whole country nvBt be dlDwaed by 
a second deluge before any water conld reach the 
aammit of such a mount The legend says the 
nurse laid the child on the grass and fell asleep. 
In the mean time a rery stniul sprinff weUed out 
dose to the ohiid*b fine and drowned ?!• A Aiend 
is collecting di€erent legends and traditions of 
English families, and would be glsd of an an-- 
swer. A. A. 

Poeta* Gotner. 

St»n^ tk THB itonsB of Coaimons (2°^ S. xii. 
37.) — Has not Mb. Woo1>wabb mistaken Sir J. 
Lawrence's meaning when he says knights of the 
diire and military officers may alone wear spurs 
in Parliament ? By ^^ Military members ** Sir 3. 
seems to mean those who stt in the military ca- 
pacity of Knights. Officers in the army, if repre- 
eentintt boroi^s, mtlst surely rank as burgesses 
only. If Mr. Mswtttmn should attend the last 
ax^ of tt county election, be would find the sword 
and spurs still m use. IP. P. 

The late allusion in <'N. & Q.** to ''Spurs in 
tlie House of Commons *' brings to itiy reo(41ec- 
iion a matter of a very different oharaeter, rela- 
tiye to the subject of spurs. Many years ago I 
hAra>ened to be with a friend in what is callea the 
oasUe (that is^ the jail) of Lancaster, de wore 
K>ura, and on our enteHng the debtorls side of 
lliejai], we were imtnedintely surrotibded by a 
crowd of tdem, who pointed to the articles, and 
demanded money in so rude and clamorous a 
style, that we w«re glad to make our escape* 
Can any of your readeta say What was meant oy 
this f and whether the same thing Would hi^peti 
now in any English jail f 

t may notice that if any one weannff spurs 
enters the Court of Session here, the door-keepws 
exact from him a fine of 5t., because they say the 
spuM may tear the lawyer's gowns. A ^nlleman 
who was subjected to this demand, said he had 
no bbjection to pay, but that he knew no place 
where spurs were more required. S. 


Baaxd OB Baabbsb : Esnbka ob Sioul (2°^ S. 
zi. 486.) — The following is a translation from 
t)r. Jacob van Lennep*s ^emuru-Woordehoek 
(Amsterdam, Gebr. Binger, 1856), p. 17 : — 

** Baartte, a kind of war-Y«08e], ased amongst the Datch 
in the 16th centniy, and earlier. In the Qneldrish war, 
anno 1518, those of Hoom snd the village adjacent, 
Wishinr to protect their coasts^ ballt each a BaoHte of 
■nasnal dimemions, with rsry high span, and towwing 
aboYO all other ships. In olden times the corporations 
of the Voetbojfke (cross-bow) and of the Handboghe Oonir 
bow) at Amsterdam bad to keep two haardten, with aU 
appartenances, for the service of the town, and this as a 
kind of requital for the license giren them in 1480, of 
ishingiftthe^oadhiMtflr,UMlMisr imd Oatar-Aoistal, 

as fw as the town-freedom went See deed of gift in 
Wagenaar's Amsterdam, voL vi Book n. Appendix A" 

As for Esneka it is monk's Latin^ from Sneh^ 
dim. Snecke, the Frisian term for what the Dutch 
would call a acAiaV, a common boat. The affinity 
with the Grerman ScHneoke^ a snail, is obvious. 

Sow H. VAH Lbnmbf. 

Zejrst, Jaly 23, 1861. 

ISAttBLLA, OotniT^S OJ^ GLoVOBSTBB f2»* 8. 3ti. 

619.)— If H. S. G. will refer to Httme's History 
of Englandy chap. x. he Will find that the Coun- 
tess of Gloucester »^ John Laeklatid** first wife- 
is there called Aoiim. Hume, probably, like Mb. 
WnxiAMs,^ relied ott the authority of Mattliew 
Paris. It is now pretty clear that Matthew Paris 
Was in e*tt)r. But I cannot consider that any 
apolosy is due IVom Mb. Whliasis fbf htivlhg 
brougnt the matter forward. On the Ct)ntmrY, I 
thihk he has done good service. For if it bad 
not been for the discussion that has tAkcn piax% 
in yoUr columns, bistorians mi^ht have gone on 
for centuries longer, some calhng the Countess 
HwokBy and others iMjMia^ the reading public, 
all the while, like H. S^ G.^ not knowing that there 
W&8 Ahy dottbt upon the subject. Mmiob. 

Isitfi OP ARCtaniisHOP CBAMtiBA AND op nn 
Bb0tmbb John (2*^ S. iv. 66.) — I had the plea* 
sure of copying for the New Enghmd BMoriotd 
and Genealogical Register for July, 1859, a pedi- 
gree preserved at Cambridge, Mass., duly authen- 
ticated by ^* John Fhilepott, Somersett," of the 
Nortohs of dh&rpenhow, co^ Bedfbrd^ It is there 
sAid that Thomas Norton of Sharpenhow married 
MArgaret) daughter of Thomas Cranmer, the arch- 
bishop; and, secondly, Alice, daughter of his 
brother fidmond, A eovain t>f this Thomas Nor- 
ton Was William Nofton, two of whose grandsons 
removed to New fiogland, where the famiW still 
continues. Is the elder braach still known r 

W» H. Whitmoeb. 

Port Louis, ManriUttSb Juds 3i 186K 

Pabish Top (2"* S. vii. 886.) — The explana- 
tion given, is a mere dictum of Steevens's without 
citing any authorial As your able correspon- 
dent says, it is not alluded to in Strutt ; and, t 
bdieve, is not to be found in any other author. 
If such a thing was formerly ** kept in every vil- 
lage," surely there would be some notice of such 
a custom. After all, does a ** parish top " mean 
only a larger one than ordinary, big chough for a 
whole parish, or, as a "churchwarden's pipe," 
means only one of gi^Uter capacity than usual P 

A. A. 

Poets' Corner. 

Abbis obabtbd bt JamMs L (2«« S. xi. 438.) 
— Augmentations such as iTHuniBL pef»^" 
were not granted to fi>reign«« only. 7 

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of Aaton (now quartered bj Hoghton, Baronet), 
are augmented with a canton or, thereon a rose 
and thbtle impaled proper. P. P. 

Epiqbam on Shbbpshanks (2"^ S. xiL 68.) — 
Mr. Sheepshanks, the Proctor of Corpus Christi, 
if a mjth. No one of the name of Sbeepshauks 
erer was Proctor of this Universitj. The epigram 
referred to waa made on a Mr. Sheepshanks of 
Jesus Ck>llege. On some occasion he pronounced 
satire like satjr. For this grievous offence he 
was punished bj this epigram : — 

** The aatyrs of old wwe satyrs of note 
With the head of a man they'd the shanks of a goat ; 
But the satyr of Jesus all satyrs sarpasses, 
Whilst his shanks are a sheep's, his head is an ass's." 

It is clear, even from W. H. Ovbraix^s imper- 
fect Yersion of the epigram, that it was made on 
a person of Jesus College. 

William Sheepshanks, of Jesus College, was 
BA. 1814, M.A. 1817. 

C. H. k Thomtsoh Coopbb. 


The history and yersion of this epigram, as I 
have always heard it, is as follows : — Mr. S., it 
seems, had written satyrs instead of satirM in pro- 
posing some exercise from Juoenalt on a paper, 
which was exhibited in the hall of his College ; 
whereupon the epigram shon made its i^pearance 
in the following form : — 

" The Satjm of old were Satyrs of note, 
With the head of a man, and the shanks of a goat ; 
Bat the Satyrs of Jesos these Satyrs sarpass, 
With the tAoiOt of a thetp, and the head of an ass." 
, C. W. B. 

AHCuniT Musical Notatioh (2** S. xii. 69.^ — 
Gbboo&t will find all the information he desires 
in the Prefaces to Hamumies to the Hymnal noted^ 
edited by Rev. Thomas Helmore, London (No- 
Telle) ; and Harmonies to the PeaUer noted, by the 
same. More extensive information on the same 
subject, and on the whole system of ancient church 
music, he will find in Expkauxtion of the Church 
Modes, by C. C. Sjpencer, London (Novello) ; 
Booh of Common Prayer, by W. Dyce, Esq., 
London (Burns) ; The Choral Responses and 
Litanies of the Church of England, by the Rev. 
J. Jebb, vol. i. r Bell), vol. ii. (Cocks & Co.) ; 
and especially in tne excellent articles on the sub- 
ject contributed to the Parish Choir, London 
(Harrison). L. F. L. 

Thu mode of notation occurs in some of the 
service books ad usum Sarum. It is explained and 
illustrated in Martini's Storia del Musica, four 
volumes 4to, Bologna, 1757, and in many other 
works. The most familiar that I have met with 
is, Considerations sur le Chant EccUsiastique par 
ii«?" ^®'^o«^*e. Maitre de Chapelle de Bouen, 
1857, now of Pang. It contains fac-similes of the 
most ancient notation without lines, as that of 

Verona of the tenth century, and that of the Im- 
perial Library at Vienna ; and the double nota- 
tion in the Antiphonale of Montpellier (tenth 
century), and numerous other specimens of an- 
cient music The most ancient musical notation 
is that of the Jews. Examples of this are given 
in the Preface to the Hebrew Bible by Jablonski, 
Berlin, 1699, converted into modem musical notes. 
It becomes an interesting inquiry, whether the 
early converts to Christianity from Judaism in- 
troduced their favourite Hebrew chants and melo- 
dies into the Christian public worship? The 
learned and amiable chanter, M. Vervoitte, is 
searching into this subject, and will be thankful 
for any information that may be transmitted to 
him. I have a few original specimens of very 
ancient chants on vellum, both with and without 
lines, probably of the eighth century. 

Geobob Offob. 

Spbucb (2*^ S. xi. 486.)-- The word spruce has, 
no doubt, been used as a corruption of Borussia, 
or Prussia. But in that sense it has no relation 
whatever to «^prtice-beer. The derivation and 
meaning of this latter expression is shown in the 
following extract, from a note in p. 114 of my 
edition of Gerrit de Veer*8 Three Voyages by the 
North-east, published "by the Hakluyt Society in 
1853: — 

- From a very eariy period a decocUon, in beer or 
water, of the leaf-bads (yemma $eu turionu) of the Nor- 
way spmoe-flr (^Abiea exedtd), as well as of the silver 
fir {AUei picea), has been used, formerly more than at 
present, in the countries bordering on the Baltic Sea, in 
scorboUc, rheamatic, and goaty complaints. See Mag- 
neii BUiliotheca PharmaeeKUco-jkedica, vol. i p. 2 ; PAar> 
maeo/Meia Borustiea (German translation by Dalk), 8rd 
edit, voL i. p. 796 ; Fereira, EUmentt of Materia Mediea, 
8rd edit, vol. ii. p. 1182. 

" These leaf-bads are commonly called in German 
nracww, and in Dutch jopen; whence the beer brewed 
tnerefrom at Dantzig, eereviiia dantiacana, as it is styled 
in the Amsterdam I^tin version [of De Veer's work J of 
1598, acquired the appellations ofmroisenbier andjopen- 
bier : of the former of which the English name, qymctf- 
beer, is merely a corruption." 

Chablbs Bekv. 


Bbunst, Manusl bu LiBBAntB (1** S. xii. 
494.) —The omission in this work, noticed by In- 
DAGATOB, has been supplied in the new edition, 
in which full particulars will be found respecting 
Robert Brown*s Prodromus Flora Nova Hoi' 
landitB, J. Macbat. 

Phcehiciah Coin (2"* S. v. 392, 498.)— In the 
Report just presented to the Emperor of the 
French by M. Ernest Renan, of nis Scientific 
Mission to the East, it is stated that among the 
articles found in excavating the tombs were some 
^* bonnes monnaies ^ l^gendes Ph^niciennes." 
The excavations were made in the vicinity of the 
Cavern Mugh&ret Abloun (Cavern of Apollo). 
Lady Hester Stanhope, during her residence in 

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the East, misled bj the dreams of some searchers 
after hidden treasures of a different kind, had 
oansed diggings to be made in the same oayern. 
From so distingnished an oriental scholar as M. 
Renan, the world will no doubt soon obtain all 
possible information respecting the newly-found 
Phcenician coins. J* Macbat. 


Rooms THE Mabttb (1*^ S. v. 247, 307, 508, 
522.) — There is a large and respectable family 
in New England claiming such descent, and the 
case stands Uius. Rev. Richard Rogers of Wethenh 
field, CO. Essex, who began to preach about 1570, 
was father of Daniel and Ezekiel Rogers. The 
latter remoyed to New England, and died s. p. 
A brother or nephew of Richard was Rev. John 
Rogers of Dedham, co. Essex, whose monument 
there says he died 8 Oct. 1636, aged sixty-five ; 
whose son, Nathaniel, removed also to New Eng- 
land, and left large issue, recorded in the N. S. 
Hut and OeneaGeical Begister. It is claimed 
that Richard of Wethersfield was son of the 
martyr. The Matthias Candler MSS. (Harl. MSS. 

6071, fol. 491), says he was son of Rogers of 

, in the North of England ; and the writer 

seems to be very good authority. As Richard 
was educated at Cambridge, and was a very pro- 
minent minister, it would seem easy to discover 
by his will or otherwise, whether he was son of the 
martyr or not. 

He had also sons, Ezra and Nathaniel, who died 
s. />.; and his son Ezekiel mentions in his will 
nephew Samuel Stone, niece Mary Watosius, of 
Maiden, co. Essex. NathanieFs will mentions 
cousin John Roeers, and cousin John Harris. 

Any one having access to the wills of Essex 
roi^t easily explain these relationships, and pro- 
bably decide wnether these noted Puritans were 
descended from John Rogers. The presumption 
is strong that they were not ; but popular report 
in New England is in favour of the pedigree. 

W. H. Whitmobb. 

Port Louis, Msuritins, June 8, 1861. ' 

Tbavbluivg IB Ebgland a Cbbtdbt ago (2"* 
S. xi. 467.) — Mb, J. P. Pbiixips seems to under- 
rate the modern expenses of travelling. He tells 
us, that Sir John rhilipps travelled with twelve 
other persons, fifteen horses and two carrfages, 
being nine days upon the road, for between 40/. 
and 50/., and he thinks it much dearer than the 
present cost of travelling. Let us see. I believe 
Picton Castle is near Milford Haven. Now sup- 
pose Sir John, my lady, and three daughters, with 
Mrs. Cooper, travelled first class by railway, their 
fares would be (60s. a-piece), 15/. Suppose the 
others named were servants and went second- 
class (40s, a-piece), their tickets would cost 14/. 
Then the party were fed at inns for nine days. 
We could hardly put the gentlefolks at less than 

1/. per day each, for beds, breakfast, dinner, &c.: 
their cost would be 54/. ; and if the seven ser* 
vants lumped together cost only 1/. a-day, there 
would be 7/. more. The sum, therefore, would 
be 90/., without reckoning anvthing for carriages 
and horses. Verily I think the modem expense 
is the greatest. No doubt if a man pops himself 
into a train without any suite, it costs him less 
than if he took (as of old) a post-chaise ; but as 
Sir John had a ** caravan,*' of course he had to 
pay. Had he travelled by himself on horseback, 
his expenses would have been very small. 


Tbabslation abd Rb-tbanslatiok (2*^' S. xii. 
26.) — I remember to have heard, many years 
since, of a (zerman named Flindt^ who, travelling 
towards England, received the name of Pierre a 
Fusil in France; and, on' his arrival here, was 
christened Mr. Peter Oun, Douglas Ajllpobt, 

Ladt Lislb (l** S. vii. 236.) — With reference 
to the inquiry made by Jobb Gablabd of Dor- 
chester for descendants of the Ladv Lisle, exe- 
cuted by order of Judge Jeffreys, her daughter 
Bridget married, first, Rev. Leonard Hoar, mi- 
nister at Weslead, Essex, and President of Har- 
vard College, Mass., and Hezekiah Usher of 
Boston, Mms. a daughter, Bri^et Hoar, went 
to England with her mother, and married Rev. 
Thomas Cotton. Tryphena, another daughter of 
John Lisle, married a Lloyd, and secondly, a 
Grove ; her daughter married Lord James Kus- 
sell, fifth son of William, first Duke of Bedford. 

Query. To what family did Hezekiah Usher 
belong r His father, Hezekiah, was of note early 
at Boston, and his brother John was proprietor 
and {governor of New Hampshire. The family 
certainly used the arms of the famous archbishop. 
John Harwood of Bednall Green, 1677, was a 
brother-in-law of Hezekiah Usher, and the Shrimp- 
tons of the same place were relatives. 

W. H. Whitmobb. 

Port Louis, Manritias, Jane 8. 1861. 

CuBious Ybbstons of thb Lobd*s Pbatbb 

S"* S. xii. 26 )— If /our correspondent, the Rbv. 
B. WiixiAMS, is interested in the subject, he 
will find ten curious English versions of the 
Lord*s Prayer printed in the Book of Common 
Prayer^ edited for the Ecclesiastical History So- 
ciety by A. J. Stephens, Esq., vol. i. p. 420. 


Db. William Wobship (2»* S. xii. 70.)— He 
was sometime Fellow of St. John's College, Cam- 
bridge. Our Query respecting him (2"* S. vii. 
218) remains as yet unanswered. We avail our- 
selves of this opportunity of correcting an error 
in that Querv. He was a native of Leicestershire, 
not of Lincolnshire. C. H. & Thompsoh Co^"*» 


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"" BuKTAN PoBTBAm (9^ S. mil. 69.)*-R. D. J. 
W. inquires, ^ How manj portraits are there of 
Joba Biuiyan?" Thb is a diflkoult <]iiestion to 
answer ; they have been published in Europe, 
Amerioa, and Asia, and are nnmberlesi. Original 
drawings and puntings are yerr limited. The 
most aocurate is a drawing from life bj R. White, 
afterwards engraved bj that eminent artitt. 
Hiese are in the Britkh Museum. I hare also a 
whole-length bj the same artist They were 
published in the first edition of Ths Hofy IFor, 
1682. White's portrait has bden copied for nu- 
merous of his works, many of which can scarcely 
be reeognised. The painting by Sadleri with a 
book in his hand, has been numerously copied, 
Mrs, Senegar*s was repaired from mine. I nave 
a whole-leogth painting of him travelling as a 
tinker, with his hat on. The Ck>mpaay of 8ta* 
tioners have a good old smali one with his hat on, 
in their Committee Room. I have two old Indian 
ink drawings, inscribed Mr. and Mrs. Bunyan, 
and an old painting of Bunyan. The painting 
b^ Sadler, mentioned in Wa^M$ Aneedotesy voT 
iii. p. 140, was copied in engraving for the first 
edition of Bun}ran*s Work$, fbrio, 1692. I poisess 
a^ large collection, among whk^h is a fine meaao- 
tint, engraved in Germany ; several in Holland, 
and some in France. The best likeness is that by 
White, 1689, six years prior to his decease, and 
that by Sadler, 169d. Copies from these have 
been copied and copied until, in some oases, the 
originals have disappeared. OflOBGB OnroR. 

Thb PooMAKas, A Nation with Tails (2°* S. 
X. 322, 4180- 

<* Paring my stay at Fennsss, la Msy, 1660v I oCtaa 
ha4 hsard psople s^Mak of tailed men, bat of coone did 
not give any credit to the tale [exciue the irresiatible 

8aoTj. Now, however, I mu6t aaaure the reader, with 
lie greatest asaeTeratloo I ever wisb to be made to my- 
self, that 1, with my own eyee, have aeen sach a man, a 
native of Southern Formosa, having a tail of more than 
a foot's length, and this appendix thickly covered witl^ 
hair. This I saw olesrly and repeatedly : for the man 
was burnt in public for having murdered a minister of 
the Gospel in a way most horrible aad felonioas. A 
crowd or people (I amongst the number), witnessed the 
execution, and, of these bystanders, some had also visited 
the man before' hand, and by him had been told, that in 
the province he came ftx>m» most of the natives had tails. 
Ta this last drcumstaooe I oanaot twea? : bat, that this 
man had a taU, I so distinctly saw as that he had a 
head.*'-i^ee J. Janssen Strays, VrU AtnmerUfykt Rdzm 
(Te Amsterdam, by a van Esveldt, 1746), p. 60. 

John H. vam Lbnnep. 
Zeyat, Joly 28, 1861. 

Fahth^b amp Fokthbb (2»^ S. xl. 338.)— The 
passage quoted by £. A. B. from Dr. Latham, 
respecting farther and further^ displays a con- 
siderable familiarity with the cognate languages ; 
but I cannot collect from it any information as to 
the growth of the two words in our own language. 
In the hope that this deficiency may be supplied, 

I beg to propose the Mowbg queftion : What 
was, in the fourteenth century, the form of the 
word fariher as derived from far^f And what 
the firm of the word fwA^r as supposed to be 
der i ved from fore f Mbmob. 

Bukkib's Hill (2~> S. v. 191.) — Gws P. Tbm- 
PLE inquires whence comes the name of Bunker*s 
^ Hill. Savage*8 Dictionary says from George 
Bunlcer of Charlestown, 1634, who had a grant of 
the land known as Bunker's Hill. The custom of 
naming brooka, ponds, hills, kt^ from their owner- 
ship was universal) as witness Breed's Hill, Tufi's 
Hill, Copp*s Hill, Lechmore Point, &c., all welU 
known places near Boston, clearly traeeablo to 
their proprietors. 

I hope soon to answer several other queries 
which I have noted. W. H. Whitmobb. 

Port Louis, Mauritins, June 3, 1861. 

TuLiPANT (2"* S. xi. 410, 517.) — This is the 
form given to the Turkish word Tulbend^ muslin, 
muslin for a turban, a turb«^n cloth.- 

Bydb Clab&s, 

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CONTENTS.— N» 298. 

NOTES : — The Bcfftoten of the Statfoners' CornvMoy, 101 
— Gwrge. Blcbftra, and Samuel Aahby, 102 — Harieisn 
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B»ir]insonMSd.~SootlioiBBu-**'Ti«, Ba«, and Bobtail" 
Arthur Walpole, 107. 

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ShaksiMn— Lord Obief JusMoe Holt -- John Abornetby, 

KEPLIBB : — Calyaeamp, 111 — flaltKlven to Sheep. 118 — 
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PraBGia Yitttars-- Byron's Brain —European Ignovaaea of 
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and Actual — Holly the onfar indicenous Eyergreen — 
Mazer Bowl — Ab: Aber — vicar of Tottenham — Lord 
ChanoeDor Steete : S& Richard Steele, 116. 

Honth^ PeniUetOB of Francb Booka. 


{CarUinuedJram p. 64.) 

Ult<' die Jalii.^Tho. Woodoook. Rd. of him 
fbr &c. A godUe Ptttjfer for IA« PreBentation of 
the QjiunM Mme$tie^ and for her Armies both ly 
Sea and Lanae^ againete the Enemyes of the 
Ckurche and thie Bealme of England . [no turn] . 

[The above and various entries that follow^ of coune, 
aroee out of the hoatile proceedings in Spun and the 
Netherlands. No donbt many prodacUona of the kind 
were printed, but not entered; and, as few or none of 
those entered have survived, we sbaU subjoin the list, aa 
coDtAined in the Registers, generally without observation* 
If additions can be made to them from other sources^ we 
aball be very glad of the communication of particulars. 
Id some casea it may not be easy to identify tnem.] 

Tertio die Augusti. — Richard Jones. Rd. of 
him for &c. a Ballad intituled, An excellent Newe 

. . . vj'. 

Songe of Prayer and Jhvtoeeee 

J. Wolf. Rd. of him for printioge A JoyfnU 
Sonnet of the Redines of the Shires and Nobilitie 
of Engkmd to her Ma*^> Service . . , . iiij*. 

[The sum first written by the clerk was, as usual at 
thu date, vj^, ; but be, fbr some reason, struck it out, and 
Bobstitttted the old charge of iiij«.] 

10 AugoaiL— Jo. Wolf. £d. of him for priat- 

inga A Ballad of thobtauning of the Qaleazzo 
wherein Don Pedro DevaUz ufos Chitfj Av. 

[no sum]. 
Aecordrng to Stow, ''this ship or d^aleon was of 1150 
tons," commanded by Don Pedro Taidea, with 804 sol- 
diers and 118 roarlDsa. It was sent by Drake into Dart- 
toMths see edit 1606, p. 1S5L] 

Jo. Wolf. Aiowed unto him The Quene's Visit- 
inge the Campe at Tilberye^ and her Entertaync' 
meni there the 8 and 9 of Augusty I68S, with 
oeodition that it may be authorised hereafter* 

[no sum]. 

[Perhapa it was the same as the following, and that Wolf 
hastily made the above entry, on speculation that soeh a 
ballad would be written by some rhymer of the day.] 

Jo. Wolf. Aiowed unto him to print for Ric. 
Jones AjoyfuU Songe of the Boiall Keceavinge of 
the Quenes Ma*^ in her Campe at TUbery the 8 and 
dqfAugitst, 1588 . vj*. 

[This production, with its title at length, may be 
found in Old SaUada, printed by the Percy Society in 
1840. p. 110. The initials T. J. are at the end of it ; but 
to whom they belong it is now impossible to ascertain : 
.the imprint ia « John Wolfe for Richard Jonea. 1588."] 

18"^ die AugustL — John Wolf. Aiowed unto 
him for his copie a ballad intjtuled The Englishe 
Preparation of the Spaniardes Navigation^ jrc. 

21 die Augusti. — Jo. Wolf. Aiowed unto him 
for his copie Psalmes of Invocation upon Qod^ to 
preserve her MajesHe and the People of this Land 
from the Power of our Enemies, gathered iy 
Xpofer Sale [no sum]. 

[Nothine seems now to be known of any such author 
as Christopher Sale. A Robert Seall was the writer of 
a ballad on StnUley's Voyage to Florida: see Old Bat- 
ladt printed by the Percy Society in 1840, p. 72. Richard 
Sheale was the author of Chevy Chaae.1 

23 Augusti. — Jo. Wolf* Aiowed unto him for 
his copie An excellent Songe of the breaking i^ of 
the Campe liij^. 

[Here again we see the old price for licensing a mere 
broadaide reverted to : the next entry, for which yJ<i was 
paid, was of ** a book,'* viz.] 

27 Augusti.-— Rich. Hudson. Aiowed unto him 
a booke intytuled Certen Englishe Verses presented 
to the Quenes moste excellent Ma*** oh Sundaye the 
18^A of August, 1^88. Uppon condition that jt 
shall and may be Ijoenced hereafter . . . vj^'. 

28 die Augusti. — Jo. Wolf. Aiowed unto 
him for hit copie, Apropper newe Ballad brief ely 
shewinge the honorable Companies of Horsmen 
and Footemen, which dtjverse Nobles of Englande 
brought btfore her Majestie, j'C. With condition 
that it may be lycenced hereafter . . [no sum]. 

Die Satumi Ultimo Auff.— Tho. Orwrn. Al- 
lowed unto him &c. a ballad%intytuled A Ballade 
of the strange Whippet whiche the Spanyardes had 
prepared Qbr^ the Englishemen and Women y}\ 

7 die Septembr. — John Wolf. Aiowed imto 

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him for his copie, The AfarskaU Shewes ofHorS' 
men before her Mtgettie at S* James . [no snm]. 

28 Sept. — John Woolfe. Alowed unto him &c. 
H ballade intjtuled The late wonder/uU Dyetres 
wkiche the Spamishe Navve euete^med in the UUe 
Fighte, on the iiea |* u/Mrn Ae Weete CoeU of Ireland^ 
in this moneth of SepUmbr^ 1688 . . [no sum]. 

7 Oct.^Henr7 Kirkham. Entred for him, upon 
condition it may be alowed, A Ballad of Thankee 
gyoinge unto God for hie Mercy toward her Maf^y 
begynnynge " Rejoyce England" .... vj*. 

[N.B. We have placed the preceding registrations to- 
gether, and with the dates respectively belonging to them, 
because they relate solely to the important event of the 
Uiscomfitare and defeat of the Spaniah Armada. We now 
return to matters of general literatore, apparently ancon- 
nocted with that event,] 

23 Angusti [1588]. — W* Ponsonby. Rd. of 
him for a booke of Sir Pbp. Sidney*s oiakinge, in- 
titled Arcadia; authorised under the Archb. of 
Cante hand TJ'. 

[Sidney's Arcadia did not appear nntil 1590, in 4to; 
but there was an intention to publish it several years 
earlier, when Fulk Greville (Lord Brooke) interposed to 
prevent it. It was acknowledged to be imperfect and 
incomplete when it first came out ; but Sir P. Sidney's 
sister, the Countess of Pembroke, afterwards revised the 
whole work; re-arranging different portions, and pub- 
lishing it in folio in 1593. The above is the first notice 
of it in the Stationert* Reyiitert."] 

W" Ponsonby. Item, Rd. of him for a transla- 
tion of Salust de Bartas^ done by the same Sir P. 
into Englishe vj*. 

[Florio, in the preliminary matter to his translation of 
M(>ntaigne*s Etmms (fol. 16U8), informs us, that he had 
seen |>art of Du Bartas as rendered into English by Sir 
P. Sidney. Before Ponsonby entered it as above, he had 
written to Sir Francis Walsiogbam regarding the pub- 
lication, and the original correspondence on the subject is 
preserved in the State Paper Office. Nothing is now 
known of any such translation; and if it were ever pub- 
lished, by Ponsonby or by any other stationer, all the 
copies have disappeared. Only three copies of Sidne3''s 
Arcadia in 4to are known, though it was a work of | 
several hundred pages.] 

28 die Anguste. — Ilenry Carre. Alowed unto 
him for his copie, A Brief e TVeatise discovering in ' 
siJfstance the Offences and Ungodlie Practises of 
the late 14 Tray tors condempned the xxvj of Au' 
guste, 1588, with the Manner of the Execution of 
Tiij of them on the 28** of Anguste^ 1588 [no sum]. 

[A copy of this ballad, consisting of fourteen eiffht- 
line stanzas, is now before us ; but it has only ^tats at 
the end, without printer's or publisher's name. The fUU 
title is this, seven wood-cut heads beinfl^ above the let- 
tering ; and seven, including one female portrait, under 
it: — A Wamimg to all /oIm TVoitors, ^ Example of 
14. Where^ vj asere exteuUd la dieern Placet neere 
about London, and 2 neere Braintford, the 28 day ofAu' 
putty 1588. AltOj at T^bome, were executed, the 80 day, 
vj. ; uamdff, 6 Men and one Woutan. To the tune of Green- 
tUevet, Stow gives their names (p. 1259), and sUtes 
that six of them were ** seminary preesto" ; and that the 
woman, Margaret Warde, waa execated for ** conve^'ing 

a cord to a prieat in BridaweU, whereby ha let hinaair 
down and escaped." Of this woman, tha ballad -wxitar 
(whoever he may have been) says : — 

** One Margaret Ward there died y« daye, 
For from Bridewell she did oonvay 
A traitorous preest with ropes away, 

that Bought to trouble oar England : 
Thia wicked woman, voide of grace. 
Would not repent in any case, 
But desperatlV even at that place 

she died a n>e to England.** 

This will be sufficient for the identification of tha ballad, 
which was perhaps by Thomas Deloney, who had put 
his initials to the account in verse of the execution of 
Ballard, Babbington, Tichboume, and eleven others, on 
20th and 2Ut Sept. 1586. which was wriUen *• to the 
tune of * Weep, 'Weep.' *' The burden is the same as that 
of the ballad on the viait of Queen Elizabeth to the Camp 
at Tilbury, and T. J. may have been the author of both. J 

xvij* Sept. — Mr. Hacket Entred for his copie, 
T^e Anatomic of Absurdyties vj'. 

[The proper title is The Analomie of Abturditie, and 
it waa *« printed by J. Gharlewood for Thomas Hacket** 
in 1589, 4to. It was by T. Naah, who calla it, in tha 
dedication to Sir Charles Blunt, ** the embrion of my in* 
fancy." As he waa bom at Lowestoft, Suffolk, in 1567, 
he was in his twantv- first year. It is remarkable that in 
this satirical tract, he ridicules his fHend Robert Ghvene 
as " the Homer of Women,** as if he had then quarrelled 
with him. In one place he says : " Hence come our bab- 
ling Ballets, and our new-found Songs and Sonets, which 
ererj red-nose Fldler hath at his finger's end ; and eveiy 
ignorant Ale-knight will breath fborth over the potte, aa 
soone aa his braine is bote.** It contains many personal 
allusions, aonie of which it is not easy now to appropriate. 
It is one of the rarest of Nash's many productions.] 

20 Sept. — Jo. Wolf. Item, alowed unto him 
&c. An Admonition to all Plough-holders^ ex* 
hortinge them to holdefaste .... [no sum]. 

zxiij die Septembr. — John Wolf. Alowed unto 
him, under thandes of Mr. Hartwell and Mr. 
Coldock, a ballad intituled Tarlton's Farewell 

[no sum]. 

[This was twenty days after the decease of the farooua 
actor, Richard Tarlton; and it seems singular that no 
earlier entry, relating to an event of such popular in- 
terest, is found in the Stationers' books. Tlie reprint of 
Tarlton** Jettt by the Sbakspeare Society, in 1844, is pre- 
ceded by a most full and accurate account of him by Mr. 
Ilalliwell, to which we can add nothing but the fact, that 
the verses on the portrait of Tarlton, in the Harleian MS., 
have been since ascertained to have been written by John 
How of Norwich.] 



George, the only son of Edmund Ashby, gen- 
tleman, was born at Clerkenwell, educated at 
Westminster under Dr. Ntcoll, and arlmitted 
siear of St John*s College, Cambridge, under Dr. 
Williams on 1 Nov. 1740, at. 16 {St John's Coll. 
Register,) In shelf K. uf the MSS. in the college 
library is a common-place book of Ashby's, con- 
taining a copy of the statutes, and various notices 

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relAtiiig to the college and its members: on p. 
270 he records of himself, " Middlesex foundation 
fellow 1748, senior fellow 12 Jul. 1766/* See 
farther, Gage*s Thingoe, pp. 18 and 25, and the 
indexes to Nichols* Lit, Anecd, and Lit. lUustr, 
(see especially Lit. lUmtr. rii. pp. 384—437). A 
letter of his is printed in Letters between the Rev. 
James Changer .... and many of the most eminent 
Literary Men of his time. Lond. 1805, pp. 395— 
398; and he is mentioned ibid. 136, 137, 364, 
366. Another letter is in Nichols* Leicestersh. \i. 
152 n., and several to and from Cole (1776—1782) 
in MS. Cole, 20. 81—85. Cole has transcribed 
Ashbj^s account of parish registers (MS. Cole 41. 
809—317). Some of his MSS. were in the hands 
of Sir Thomas CoUum (Monk*s Life of Bentley, 
8to. ed., i. 271 n.) His name occurs among tJie 
subscribers to Loder's FramUngham. 

A folio MS. in Mr. Dawson Turner's sale of 
MSS. (lot 15) contained his notes on Blomefield*s 
History of Norfolk. Park dso had the use of 
his notes for his edition of Warton*s Hist. Engl. 
Poetry (Bent*s Literary Advertiser for 1809, p. 24, 
col. 2). He will, however, be best remembered 
by his contributions (under the signature T. F., 
Taylor* s Friend) to that astonishing monument 
of industry, the Literary Anecdotes of John 

It will be observed that I have given his father's 
name as Edmund; so it is in our register, and in 
Nichols' Lit. lUustr. vii. 389 n. In the son's 
epitaph (ibid. 384\ the father's Christian name is 
Edward; no conmsion is more common, and we 
may ^erally assume that the more unusual 
name is the true one. 

The following notice of Ashby, by his friend 
William Cole, hsa not, so far as I know, appeared 
in print : — 

M& Cole 41. 809. 
** His father was son to Mr. Ashby, descended from the 
ikmily of Qnenhy in Leicestershire, a very antient tkmWy 
and long seated there, the head of which fkmilv is Mr. 
Ashbj, father to a genUemaD, educated at Oxford, bat 
mamed many years ago to the only daughter and heir of 
Mr. Sparkes, a brewer at Cambridge, and a very worthy 
man, whose wifo is now living at Cambridge, and was 
daoghter to Mr. Dent, an apothecary of a good family at 
Cambridge. This Mr. Ashby lives the winter part of 
Uie Tear at Cambridge, and at Haselbeche in Nortnamp- 
tonahire, dnrine the summer, as his father is still living 
at Qnenby. Tney have no children, and Mrs. Ashby is 
one of the most agreeable, best bred, and accomplished 
women in the place she inhabits, llie president of St. 
John's was educated at Eton school, is a very good anti- 
qnary, learned critic, and much conversant in medals and 
pictures, and was it not for his immoderate talking, 
woold be a most agreeable companion. He has had a 
seal of his arms lately cut for a seal ring, in an odd oval 
shape, the oval turned the wrong way, in order, as he 
says, that the qnarterinss might be better marshalled. 
When I see him next, [1 J will take an impression of it.* 
I think he was the person who brought in the grace 

* Cole gives a copy of it and of the Ashby coat 

into the senate house, for leave to be procured that fel- 
lows of colleges might marry. The arms of Ashby of 
Qaenby are, azure, a cheveron ermine, inter 3 leopards* 
faces, or." 

Two other Ashbys took their first degree at 
Cambridge within two or three years of Greorge : 

(1.) Richard Ashby, rector of Barwell, 1746 — 
1756 (Nichols* Leicestersh. iv. 478 ; cf. Ann, Reg. 
xi. 184). 

(2). Samuel Ashby, rector of Barwell 1756, 
who died 23 Oct. 1778, sst. 54 (Nichols, as above, 
p. 479 ; Lowndes, new edition, i. 752, col. 2.). 

John £. B. Matob. 

St John's College, Cambridge. 

In the Harleian MS. 206, aj^parently fifteenth 
centurjr, there is a Latin treatise on the Deca- 
logue, in which are interspersed, as the subject 
proceeds, popular rhymes m English, to help the 
memory of the unlearned : — 

** In heven schall dwell all crysten men 
That know & kepe goddes bydding ten. 

** Thou schat love gods w* hert entere 
With all y* soil and i yi myght; 
Oder gode in no manere 
Thou Shalt not have be day no nyght 

« Thi goddes name in vanite 
Thou schalt not tak for weill ne wo ; 
Dismembre him not v* on rode tre 
ffor us was made both blak & bio. 

** Thi halidays kepe weill also 
ffro werdely werks you tak y*" rist ; 
All y houseald y* same schall doo. 
Both wifB & child', s'vant & best 

** Thi fader and thi moder y" schalt bono' 
Nott only w* reverense, 
Bot in thair nede you tham sucur 
And kepe ay gode obediens. 

** Of mankend y" schalt non slo 
Ne harme w* word ne dede nor will ; 
Ke snffre none lome ne lost to be 
^if you well may hym help at nede. 

*< Thi wife in tyme y» mayst wele take, 
But none oder woman laufhlle, 
Lychery & synful lust fie & for sak, 
And drede ay gode wher so y« be. 

" Be you no thefe nor thefe*) Tero 
Ne no thing wynne thor3 trechery : 
Oker ne symony com you not ner 
But conciens dere kepe ay trewly. 

*• Thou achalt in word be trew also 
And wittnes fals you schal nO ber ; 
Luk you not lye for firend nor fo 
Loaf thou thi saol ftil gretly der. 

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** ThI neghbores wife thoa sct'alt not desire, 
Ne wonnftn none thor5 synne covete ; 
Bott 06 holy kvrlc wold itt were 
Bighi to tbi ppea loke thorn tette. 

** Umm Mr land m ether thjBg 
Thou iclialt not covet wwMifiiily ; 
Bot kye ay well gods byddjrng, 
And cristeo fath lere stedCutly." 

Anio*0 Court. 


Superstition has created a proneness in man- 
kind to regtvd oertaio dftja as either fortunate or 
unfortunate, and this fantasy has tinctured even 
the greatest of men. Napoleon I. was an especial 
instance in this particular. And even in our own 
day, in the Russian war, the 18th of June, as the 
anniversary of Waterloo, was considered a pros- 
perous day for an attack. 

Raphael and Zadkiel, those renowned sooth- 
sayers, still sen their "prophetic messengers;*' 
and the simple west-countrv peasant will warn you 
that such-and-such a daj is not proper for certain 
things, owing to the sun being m w wrong sign. 
What a momentouf question is it m to the most 
correct day to enter upon the matrimonial tie, 
and how few enter into that tngsgweMt vpon a 
Friday ! 

I transcribe a portion of an oM MS. upon this 
subject, wherein toe writer, after duly informing the 
reader that the most learned mathematicians have 
decided that the Ist of August, the 4th of Sep- 
tember, and the 11th of Miuxh are most injudi- 
cious to let Uoodi and t^ phiiosopfavsrs have 
settled that the 10th of August, 1st of December, 
and 6th of Ain't! ave perilous to those who surfeit 
themselves in eating and drinking, continues as 
follows, assigning reasons whj certain days should 
be marked as infelicitous ; — 

" We read of an old Arabian philoflopber» a man of 
divers rare observations, who did remarke three Mnn- 
dayes in a yeare to be most unfortunate either to let 
blood or begin any notable worke, (viz.) the first Mun- 
day of Aprill, y* w^ dav Caine was borne, and his 
brother Abell slaine ; the 2^ ii the !•* Mnnday of August, 
the which day Sodom and Oomorrha were oonfounded ; 
the 3<i is the last M anday of DeceMber, the which day 
Judos Iscariott was borne, who betrived oar Saviour 
Jesus Christ These three days, together wilh the Inno- 
cents* da^, by divers of the learned are reputed to be 
most unfortunate of all djnret, and oo^^ht to be eschewed 
bv all men for y* great mishaps which often do occur in 
tnem. And thus much concerning the opinion of our an- 
cient of dayes. So in like manner I will repeat unto you 
certain dayes y* be observed by some old writers, cheifly 
the curious astrologians who did alledge y* there were 28 
days in the yeare which were revealed by the Angel 
Gabriel to good Joseph, which ever have been remarked 
to be very fortunate dajea either to purge, let bloud, 
cure wounds, uae marehaadiies, sow seed, plant trees, 

bmild houses, or taking Joomles, in looff or short voyages, 
ia flghtiac or giving of battalia, or skirmishing. Tney 
also doe aUedge that ohildraa who ware home ui any of 
these dayes could never l>e poors ( and all ebildren who 
were pat to acbooles or colledges in those dayes shoold 
become great schollars, and those who were put to anv 
craft or trade in such daves should become perfWst Arti- 
fleers aod rieli, aad soeh as were pat to trade of Mar- 
chaadiae sbo«ld bMoin«flM»t wealthy, the dayes be tkasa. 
The 8^ and 18^ of Jaaoaiy, v« 5«k and «8« of Feb., y* d« 
22<^ and 30«*> of Mavh, the b% 22«>, and 2^^ of Aprils y • 
4* and SSt^ of May, y* 8< and S*** of June, the lb\ 13»»» 
and 15«» of Jnlv, y« li"* of August, v« 1*, 7«h, 24*. and 
28* of Septemb^ the 4f^ and 16*^ of Octob^, y« 18<k and 
19(fc of Nov, y* 284 and 28* of Deasnbor. And thas 
much ooncenitog y da^ret which are by y* mast cartons 
sort of y* learned remarked to be good ami evilL" 

Who was tbd old Arabian pbilas<^her above 
alluded to ? Aod ohs any of yaur readers from 
the lives of self-made men smr that they oo»- 
menoed certain epochs of then: lives «pon either 
of the days mantioa«i ? Siieh ooiMcldeDoas would 
be at least curious. Iroui 


The following interesting MS. warrants are 
among the Miscellanea belonging to the South 
African Public Library. It is most likelj thai 
these papers have never yet been published* and 
so presuming, I am induced to transmit conies in 
exienso, I cannot glean more #f their nistorj 
than that they were presented manv jears ago» 
by a gentleman who is no longer in toe cobny. 
** These are to desire you forthwith, •at «/ y mm&y 
mmsiaing in to** hands for payment of tha flbrees ander 
my Comannd m Scotland, to pay unto M' William Ckrlss 
the Some of One Thousand Pounds upon aocompt for the 
Contingent Charges of y Army. And for soe doing this 
Warrant, with bis receipt, shall Ipa yo* sofflcisoS discbarge. 
QiveA and' my hand y third of fiebroary, 1660. 

" O. CaoKwaLLi 
•^ To Sir John Wollaston, K*^, 

and y* ssst of y« Treis at Warr, or thsir depatjr.** 
<<Febmar4*. 1680. 
''Rec^ then of S^ John Wollaston, 'K\\ 
and the rest of y« Trers at Warr, In f £ s. d, 
full payment of this Warrant, y* snm TIOOO . 00 . 00 
of One Thousand Pounds. I saye rec' J 
** Witn. a BUtoa " Wm. Clabo." 

The above warrant ts docketed as follows : — 

** Mr. Qarka for Coating* 

1000 . 00 • 00.*' 

[L. B.] «. 

** These are to wH! and reqoire yon, out of such mo- 
neyes as either are or shall come to your hands for the 
pay of the Army in Scotland, to pay unto W Richard 
Thorowgood, or to whom hee shall appoint, the sume of 
One Hundred and Eight Pounds, six sbilling, and eight 
pence, due unto him for two thousand Baggs to back bis- 
quett in for the use of the Army in Scotland. Of which 
yo" are not to ihHe, and fbr which this shall bee your 

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Warr«. Given ait the Councell of Btite, att Whlte-Hall, 
this 29<k of Jaooaiy, 1660. 

** Signed in y name and by order of y Gouno" of 
SUte appointed by Authority Parl^ 

" Jo. Bradshawb, P«Bld*. 
*<To Sir John Wollastone and the rest of the 
Trears at Warrs, or any two of them.** 

"R<> then of Sir John WoUaston, K^, and' 
tba rest of the TreZre at Warrs, in full 
paym' of y« within written Warcaat, the I -.^ 
Somme of One Hundred and £igbt ''^^ 
Pounds, six shillings, and eight pence. I 
say rec* - 

*'Per me Bxohaoo Tbobowoooo.** 

** Mr. Richard ThMOw- a 8. «9 Jan. 1060. 

good his Warrant M' Ridi. Thorowfood for 

Biskatt baggs fbr Sootland. 
tl fiib. lOi . 06 .6 . 
Seeti moaey.** 
•• Thels are to requh^ yon, otrt of such moneys as are 
or ihftlbee appointed for payem* of j* Porees under y 
Comand of his Ex**« the Lord Lien« of Ireland, and for y« 
incident charges of t* saied Forces, to issue forth and pay 
unto Capt<^ George Deyos, upon aecompt ye some of forty 
pounds and six shillings towards 14 dayes paye for 124 
sold* being recruits for y« Army, with an allowance of 
18* per man in consideration w fboad w«*» they should 
have received in parte, and towards thelre pay for that 
tyme$ Comendng y 16*»» and determyning y« 29*»» June 
insUnt inclusive. And for ioo doolng this, wHh the re- 
ceipt of y* saied Gapt" Geoig Deyos ^aJbee yo' snfficient 
warrant and disdiarg. Given under my hand this 22 
Jnn^ 1661 . * H. Ibbtoh. 

•* To fir John WollMtOD, K"*, and y* rest of 
y TreiN at Wanr, or theiiie Depntie." 

«*M Jane, 1651. 
*^Rec* thM of Sir John WeUaiton, K"*, asd y 
rest of y* Trears at Warr, the Some of foorty 
pounds, six shillings, on ace' in tuXl paym< 
this Warrant I say rcc* - 

"Per me Geo. Deyos." 

No water-mark on paper No. 1. On No. 2 it 
is a coronet over a bugle horn, and letters NA . 
DP in a tablet On Mo, 3. a flear*de4is in a 
8qnar« tablet or afaield, under a ooronet. 

Cape Town, a G. Hope, 
June 7, 1861. 

mnyl£ $, 
n> ofr40.06 

A mock epitatph npon this antiaaflry is printed 
in Nichols's Literary Anecdotes^ toI. it. pp. 164-5, 
from which it appears that he was a Unitarian, 
and that in respect to patriotism, attachment to 
friends, and amiability oif character, he was alto- 
gether wsntbff. As this epitaph is said to be 
" copied from die hand^writbg of Mr. Wagstaffe," 
it might possibly be supposed (notwithstanding its 
concluding words) that the views or prejudices of 
the nonj tiring bishop had given a darker tinge to 
the description than was really aierited. It ap- 
pears, howerar, flrom a MS. copy preserved in the 

Bodleian Library among Dr. Rawlinson*s papers, 
that the character is really a very candid auto- 
biographical sketch, this paper bearing this en- 
dorsement — '^Copy of Peter Le Neve's Epitaph : 
Latin, per himselfe.** The only noticeable dif- 
ference in tiie inscription is that in the fifth clause 
the word " partium ' is inserted after " interesse.** 
Further evidence, however, of Le Neve's unbelief 
is afforded by another curious MS. paper which 
accompanies the former, and which is headed, 
" The Creed of Peter Le Neve, Esq.," the name 
being filled up by Br. RawHnson. 

The publication of this at the present time may 
possibly be in some degree useful as well as in- 
teresting: — 

*' I bcdieve in one Qod, omniscient, omnipotent, all mer- 
ciftU } and [that] that Creator whose name is bleased is 
one» sad there is no unity lilce liis, who alone was, is, and 
will be ray God ; who by his almighty power in one mo- 
ment created the heaven and the earth, whose second 
thoughts cannot be more perfbct than his first, and there- 
fore I believe, that he at the same instant replenished this 
world with haman creatures male and female, as well as 
with beasts of the field, and fowls of the air ; and that 
his mercy on his poor creatures is so great that he or- 
dained none of them to feel the iury of his wrath. I 
beliave his wisdom to be so greet that he contrived at 
that instant the frame of all things so wisely, that for no 
manner of event or accident whatsoever he will so far 
alter his first desi^ of nature to produce that which is 
calted a miracle. I believe him so powerful that without 
the assistanos of angels, devil, or any other inferior beings 
he IB able to punish the evil and reward the good done 
by us mortals, and that the same breath of his nostrils 
can annihilate all which he created, but if it so please 
him it may be as much to his glorv to have the worid 
endure to eternity. I believe the hwtorioal books, part 
of the Old Testament, to be wrote as other books by 
faithful historians, and contain select things worthy oif 
observation and instruction in order to the directing our 
afiiurs in this world, and the adoration of one God ; and 
for the rest, which contain the prophecies of several per^ 
sons, they were writ according to the style of the eastern 
nations to reduce the Jews to good living, and from the 
idolatry and evil costoms of their neighbour-nations; 
and [Ij see no reason why some of those books called 
Apocrypha should not be admitted into the same autho- 
rity with the rest, since they contain as good precepts, 
and the historical parts of them are better oonflrmed by 
Roman authors of the same time. As for them' of tlie 
New Tertament, I believe they were wrote by the fol- 
lowers of a great man to make the rest of the worid 
believe what they, through their zeal and love to his 
person, saw through a manifying-glass, and for so much 
thereof as relates to precepts of life and eonversation very 
good. I believe Christ to have been a great and good 
man, conceived, bom, died, and buried as other holy 
men ; for I cannot think him God omniscient, since he 
himself saith that he did not know the time of the day 
of judgment, but the Father only, B(ark c 13, v. 82. I 
believe he may be preferred to a nearer participation in 
the beatifique vision of God than the rest of good men. I 
believe the emanation of the Holy Spirit of God upon 
good men to incline them to live peaceably and inoflen- 
sively in this world, and to the adoration of an Eternal 
Being. I believe the several religions of this world, so 
far as they centre In the worship of his holy name, and 
condnce to well-living, to be equally aeetptable to him. 

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I b«lisT» DO penon hath power to remit sine bat God 
himMir. I think the mercy of God so much • mater 
attribote than bia justice, that he will not panish eter- 
nally for a temporal fault, since most transgressions 
against the law of nature meet with some part of their 
punishment in this world, and that there cannot be a ra- 
tional being who can deny a Deity and the Providence 

W. D. Maceat. 

Minor fUitti. 

A NoTB ON ''N. & Q.'*— I think it worth while 
to draw your attention to the extensive circu- 
lation your excellent little work has attained, by 
referring solely to one — the last — No. (292), 
which contains communications from the following 
places and countries. I select them at random : 
Arno*s Court;. Cork; Cambridge; Fountain Hall, 
Aberdeen; Zeyst; Poets* Corner; Port Louis, Mau- 
ritius; Edinburgh; Dublin; Bottesford Manor, 
Brigg ; Southampton ; China ; Brighton ; Ham- 
mersmith ; Albany, N. Y. ; Bekesbume, Oxford, 
and Smyrna. N. H. R. 

The Mbdisval Bi<oitdin. — < In one of the 
volumes of the work, entitled Oravures en Boi» 
dei Ancietu Mattres AUemands, tirh des Planches 
arigiuales, eic, foL, Gotha, 1816, is a very large 
woodcut* representing the feats of a certain rope- 
dancer at Venice, who seems to have surpassed 
''the hero of Niagara,** inasmuch as his rope is 
inclined at a most formidable angle ; the lower 
extremity being fastened to a raft, moored ap- 
parently not more than fifty or sixty yards from 
the shore, while the upper one is taken in at one 
of the windows at the top of St. Mark*s tower. 
And,, even if we make allowance for some errone- 
ous perspective on the part of the old engraver, 
and consider the raft to have been anchored at a 
distance of some 200 or 300 yards, the danger of 
the ascent will not be diminished, and the m- 
dient will still be steeper than any of Blondin*s 

The rope is kept steady by guy-ropes, four on 
each side, and the whole affair seems to have been 
as well matured as a modern performance. 

JoHH Eliot Hobokin. 

West Derby. 

Chbistophbb Ahstt, Fathbb and Son. — The 
following extract, from MS. (Cole, 19, 92 a), 
where C^le is treating of Brinklev parish in 1750, 
gives some particulars of the autnor of T^e Bath 
Ouide^ and of his father, which are not to be 
found in tiie note in Nichols's Lit Anecdotes^ i. 
221. Cole also notes (p. 93 a,) the death of Anne, 
daughter of Dr. Chr. Ansty, 28th June, 1719, 
Rt 4 m. 

- The present rector is the Rev. Dr. Christopher Ans^, 
who hss another living in Essex or Hertforasbire. He 

* By an unknown master, and ezecnted abont 1550. 

was of St Joha*s College in Cambridge, where he was 
pupil-monger, and got a good deal of money ; and mar- 
rying the danghter of Mr. Thompson, of Traropington, 
on the death of Porter and James Thompson, Esqrs, 
without issue, his wife came in for the estate as heir-at- 
law: though the last had left it all to the Rev. Mr. 
Dowsing, late of Benet College ; but by a defect in the will, 
one of the legatees betnff a witness, after several long 
and' expensive trials at law, it was a^nsted at a very 
easy rate for Dr. Ansty, who only gave Mr. Dovrsing 1000/. 
to give up his pretensions. Dr. Ansty has tvro children, 
both nnmarriea ; a danghter Mary, aged about thirty- 
five; and a son Christopher, Fellow m King*s College, 
aged abont twenty-five, who would be M.A., was he not 
under a suspension from Dr. Paris, when he was Vice 
chancellor in 1748, for some irregularitv in the perform- 
ance of his bachelor*s exercise; which was revived at 
that time, after a disuse of some yesSrs, and therefore un • 
acceptable to the bachelors of the University: he is a 
very ingenious young man and an excellent scholar, and 
drew this censure upon himself from his too much viva- 
city and parts, whicn hurried him on to treat that in too 
ridiculous and jocose a manner, which the Vice-chan- 
cellor determined to have- regarded as a serious exercise : 
and not being able, much against the opinion of his 
University fHends (for his father knows nothing of it), 
to bring himself to make a proper submission to the 
Vice-chancellor, his censure still continues in full force 
against him. He is now a student in one of the Inns of 
Court at London. Dr. Ansty is quite deaf, and has been 
so for many years ; so as not to be able to hear the report 
of a cannon, though let off at his ear.** 

John E. B. Mator. 
St John's College, Cambridge. 

Passage in Adam Smith.. — The fifth edition 
of Dr. Adam Smith's Theory of Moral Sentiments, 
London, 1781, p. 158., &c., contains the following 
passage in support of the doctrine of an Atonement. 
I am uncertam whether it appeared in the pre- 
vious editions ; but, if I am not much mistaken, it 
was excluded from all the subsequent It is pro- 
bably little known, and seems to merit preserva- 
tion : — 

'* Man, when about to appear before a Being of infinite 
perfection, can feel but little confidence in his own merit, 
or in the imperfect propriety of his own conduct In the 
presence of his fellow creatures, he may ever justly ele- 
vate himself, and may often have reason to thmk highly 
of his own character and conduct, compared to the still 
greater imperfection of theirs. But tne case is quite 
different when abont to appear before his infinite Creator. 
To such a being he fears that his littleness and weakness 
can scarcely ever appear the proper object either of 
esteem or of reward. But he can easily conceive how 
the numberless violations of duty of which he has been 
gnilty, should render him the proper object of aversion 
and punishment, and he thinks he can sft no reason why 
the divine indignation should not be let looee, without 
any restraint, upon so vile an insect as he imagines that 
he himself must appear to be. If he would stifl hope for 
happiness, he suspects that he cannot demand it fh>m 
the justice, but that he must entr^t it from the mercy 
of God. Repentance, sorrow, humiliation, contrition at 
the thought of his past conduct seem, upon this account, 
the sentiments which become him, and to be the only 
means which he has left for appeasing that wrath, which 
he knows he hss justly provoaed. He even distrusts the 
efiicacy of all these, and naluraUy fears lest the wisdom 
of God should not, like the weakness of man, be orevailed 

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npon to spare the crime by the most importunate Umen< 
tatioiM of the criminal: some other intercession, some 
other sacrifice, some other atonement, he imagines must 
be made for him beyond what he himself is capable of 
making before the purity of the divine justice can be re* 
oondled to his manifold offences. The doctrines of Reve- 
lation coincide, in every respect, vith these original 
anticipations of nature ; and as they teach us how little 
we can depend upon the imperfection of our own virtue, 
so they show us at the same time that the most power- 
ful Intercession has been made, that the most dreadful 
atonement has been paid for our manifold transgressions 
and iniquities.*' 



iHscBirnoir at Wirdsob. — On the frieze of 
the principal front of the Town Hall at Windsor, 
built in 1707, the following inscription in large 
letters is carved beneath a statue of Queen 
Anne : — 

« Arte tu& sculptor non est imitabilis Anna, 
Anna vis similem sculpere, sculpe deam.** 

Is it not remarkable, that on the most conspi- 
cuous part of ihe most public building, in a town 
which is the resort of all that are most dis- 
tinguished in the country, and under the shadow as 
it were of one of the most eminent seats of learning 
in Europe, so manifest an error should have been 
allowed to remain uncorrected for 150 years f 

I would suggest to his worship, the mayor, that 
he should lose no time whatever in causing a 
mason to turn Anna into Ann<?, and so rectify 
the case ; although he would still leave the La- 
tinity, and the taste, nearly as bad as before. 

Sydney Smibkb. 

A MoDBL Reply to a Gonstitusrcy. — I find 
the following in a newspaper of ninety years 
ago : — 

** The following is an exact copy of a letter from An- 
thony Henlev, Esq., the elder brother of a late Lord 
Chancellor, Lord Northington, to a certain corporation 
in Hampshire :-« 

'** Gentlemen, 
** * I Received yours, and am Surprised att your Inso- 
lence in troubling me about the £xclse, you know what 
I very well know, that I Bought you — 

•* • And I know what Perhaps you think I dont know, 
You are now selling yourselves to somebody Else. 

** * And I know what you dont know, that I am Buying 
another Borough. 

** * May God's curse Ught on yon all. 
** * May your houses be as Open and Common to all 
Excise Officers m your wifes and Daughters were to me 
when I stood for your Scoundrell Corporation. 

•* * Yours, AKTHoinr Hen lt.* " 



AoAS (Bekjamib), author of Oaspel Conversa- 
tioHj 1667. Agate (John), M. A., author of various 
tractates against Withers and Trosse, 1708-1714, 

and Alabaster (Wm.), D.D.* I shall thank any 
correspondent to indicate sources of information 
concerning any or all of these names, excluding 
Calamy, Palmer, and Wood. r. 

The Rev. Cobnbuus Baylby, D.D., founder 
and minister of S. James's Church, Manchester, 
was of Trinity College, Cambridge, B.D., 1792, 
D.D. 1800, He is author of a Hebrew Grammar, 
1782, and of sermons and other works. One of 
his sermons was reprinted at Manchester in 1817. 
Perhaps some of your correspondents can furnish 
us with the date^ of his death. 

C. H. & Thompson Coofbb. 

Chbistihb db Pisak.— Can any one tell me how 
the MS. Works of Christine de Pisan came into 
the possession of the Duke of Newcastle, whose it 
was in 1676 ; and when it passed into the British 
Museum, where it now is, Harl. 4431 ?t 

Nel Mezzo. 

DiPLOMATA. — Will some of the learned readers 
of " N. & Q." say what are the best and leading 
works upon early Diplomats, say of dates up to 
A.D. 600. Ekqijirbb. 

Lieut. Wm. Dobbs, R.N. — Probably some 
reader, either Irish or general, of " N. & Q.'* can 
supply me with some information of Lieut. William 
Dobbs, R.N., whose life was most gloriously sacri- 
ficed to professional devotedness, and a sincere 
amor pairia. The buccaneering achievements of 
Paul Jones, and his traitorous proceedings during 
the American war are too well known to require 
recapitulation here. Together with the enormity of 
his crimes, there was at times an astonishinff ra- 
pidity of action. Ch\ Thursday, the 23rd April, 
1778, early in the morning, he had nearly de- 
stroyed by his incendiary attempts the shipping 
and town of Whitehaven ; and before noon of the 
same day he landed at St. Mary*s Isle, Kirkcud- 
bright, the seat of the Earl of Selkvk, from 
whence he feloniously carried off the family plate. 
Then stretching across Channel, he appeared off 
Carrickfergus and Belfast early in the morning of 
the 24tb, and fought a severe action with ** the 
Drake ** English vessd, whidi engaged with him 
under the greatest disadvantages. 

Cai)t. Burdon, in command of *' the Drake,** had 
lost his other officer a few days before; but Lieut. 
Dobbs being at Belfast, animated bv a truly 
valorous spirit, gallantly volunteered his services, 
and went on board ** the Drake.'* In the conflict 

[* A short accoont of Dr. Wm. Alabaster will be fbond 
in Abp. Bramhall's JFcrkt, ed. 1844, ui. 105. 

t Out correspondent has probably consulted Sir Fre* 
deric Madden's article in the Arehaologjaf xxvi. 271, 
entitled ** Notices of Lonis de Bruges, Seigneur de la 
Ghrnthnyse," contaiDiog some historical notices of this 
splendid manuscript, vide also Shaw's J>ru$e» and Ih' 
€oraiion$ of the Middk Agety vol. ii. plaie 48.-~£d.] 

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Capt. Burdon, who was very ill, but could not be 
prevailed upon to go below, was killed ; and poor 
Lieut. Dobbe was mortallj wounded, and died the 
next day. Under such circumttances the refult 
could not be otherwise than unfortunate; and " the 
Drake " became the prize of Paul Junes. To in- 
crease the melancholy fate of Lieut. Dobbs we 
must add that, from the Daily AdverHser, (Lon- 
don newspaper) of Tuesday, May 12, 1778, it 
appears he had only been married on the Tues- 
day, April 21, when he lost his life so intrepidly 
on the Saturday, leaving a most amiable young 
wife a widow, after four days from her mama^. 
Few tragedies can be more sorrowful than this; 
and it is but due to the memory of Mr. Dobbs 
that his valour and character should be fully re- 
corded. PaU-LAM qui MBBUIT 7BBAT. 

Emblems op Saints. — A portion of a Scottish 
charm has several times been quoted, especially by 
Sir Walter Scott in the beginning of Qvy Man- 
nerifig : — 

** St Bride and her brat, 
St Colm and his cat, 
St Michael and hii fpaar* 
Kaep the house from reif and wear." 

On looking into the various works on the em- 
blems of saints, no such thing as a child is attri- 
buted to St, Bride ; but, from his fondness for 
them, I see that SL Brice is often represented 
with an infant in his arms. Sinclair (Satan'i In- 
visible World discovered^ p. 145) gives it — 

Now the only saint having a hat as an emblem 
is St. Goar the hermit. St. Columba ia often re. 
presented with a young bear, in allusion to a 
miracle ; and it may be possible that in some rude, 
or more likely some defaced representation, this 
may have been mistaken for a cat. These points 
at first sight may not appear to be worth the con- 
sideration of the readers of " N. & Q." However, 
it should be remembered that the emblem often 
identifies the saint, and assists ns to fix both the 
date and the name of the founder of a building. 
Again, there is this curious inquiry, whether the 
spell is of post-reformation time or not ? In other 
words, whether it were in use in the Roman Car 
tholic period, and corrupted in consequence of 
dd customs becoming obsolete. Or whether it 
nught have been firamed, on the remembrance of 
ancient traditions, in that superstitions period that 
abounded with witchcraft and ghosts. Perhaps 
some North British antiquary could help us. 

A. A. 

Poet's Comer. 

JoaiPH Faufaz died at Baeshot, Surrey, in 
1783, and was buried at Windlesham, havinj been 
bom apparently about 1705. An impression pre- 
vails in that part of the country that he belonged 
to the Yorkshire &mily of Fairfax, and came 

south with the great Duke of Cumberlandf through 
whose influence, it is presumed, he got one ton 
into the Royal Navy, and obtained for the other 
a sinecure of 400/. per annum In Windsor Grreat 
Park. My Query b— Can any one, by an authen- 
tic pedigree, trace the descent of Joseph Fairiax 
from the Yorkshire faouW of that name? 

T. E. F. 

Richard Fbbicob. -* Dr. Dorah in his book 
on Comri Foolij p. 138, quotes a story from Gran- 

fer, to this effect. Wilt Sommers, oourt fool to 
lenry VIII^ had in early life lived as servant in 
the house of a Northamptonshire gentleman of 
the name of Richard Farmer or Fermor.* This 
gentleman, for assisting a destitute imprisoned 
priest, was found guiltv ofpramumre^ and reduced 
to beggary. The fool was not ungrateful to his 
former master, and obtained from the king, when 
on his death- bed, the restoration of that portion of 
the estate which had not been disposed of. 

I should feel obliged If any of your correspon- 
dents could inform me what relationship existed 
between the above Richard Fermor and a Sir 
Richard Fermor of Somerton, Oxon., whose sister 
Mary married Francis Plowden, ^ui ob. 1682, set 
ninety, and to whose joint memories an inscription 
exbts in the churdi of Shiplake, Oxon. 

D. O. M. 

Gbhson Tract against Romaic db l,a. Rose.--^ 
What were the name and substance of the parti- 
cular tract that the great champion of morals. 
Chancellor Gerson, wrote against the Roman de 
la Rose ? Gerson was a contemporary of Chris- 
tine, who also wrote against the same poem. 

Nbl Mbszo. 


Armour. — 

« Napoleow's Coat of Mail. — Just before Napoleon 
set oat for Belgium, he sent for the cleverest artizan of 
hU class in raris, and demanded of him whether he 
would engage to make a coat of mail to be worn under 
the ordinary dress, which should be absohrtely bullet- 
proof; and that, if so, he might name his own price for 
such a work. The man engaged to make the desired 
object, if allowed proper time, and he named IMOO 
fhmcs as the price of it. The bargain was concluded, 
and in due time the work was producedt and the arti- 
zan honoured with a second anoience of the Emperor. 
• Now (said his Imperial Majesty) put it on.' The man 
did so. 'As I am to stake my life on its efficacy, you 
will, I suppoee, hare no obfectlon to do the same?' and 
he took a brace of pistols, and prepared to discbarge one 
of them at the breast of the astonished artist. There was 
no retreating, however, and, balf dead with fear, he stood 
the fire; and, to the infinite credit of his work, with 
perfect impunity. But the Emperor was not content with 
one trial. He fired the seoond pistol at the back of the 
artist, and afterwards discharged a fowling piece at an- 
other part of him with shnilar effect * Well,* said the 
Emperor, *you have produced a capital work undoubt- 

r* For some partioalars of Biahard Fermoi^ see ow 

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•dly. Wkati* to be the price of it?' Siehteen thoiwuMl 
francs were named aa the agreed sam. ' "niere ia an order 
for tbein/ aaid the Emperor, ' and there ia another for an 
equal som, for the fright I hare giyep you.'" 

The above appeared in the Leamington Adper- 
Uter of July 4, 1861. I do not know whence it 
was taken. As our soientific men are now in- 
quiring with how much iron a ship can float, 
perhaps some one will calculate the weight of a 
coat of mail " absolutely bullet proof." We may 
then estimate the probability of a man wearing it 
under his ordinary dress, and going about without 
drawing aitentioiu FnsBovsiHs. 

QaiTick Club. 

JsmnMna OF Shiplaks, Ozoir.<-*Tbe Histori- 
cal Register, vi. 22 (April 19, 1719) states, Tudor 
Trevor, Esq., son of Sir John Trevor, late Master 
of the Rolls, was married to Mrs. Elizabeth Jen- 

nens, daughter of Jennens of Shiplake, in 

the county of Oxford. Will some one state of 
whom she was the daughter, with her pedigree 
and descent ? James Colsmam. 

Mb. Jobh Molb. — Can any of your readers 
give me any jparticulars of the imprisonment or 
martyrdom of Mr. John Mole, to whom Bidiop 
Hall writes a noble letter of encouragement under 
bis persecution. It is the 9th letter of the 10th 
[6th ?j Decade, and addressed to him ^'of a 
long time now prisoner under the Inquisition at 
Rome.** Fbahgis Tbbnch. 

Fatehti. «- At tke recent meeting of the Kent 
Arebsologioal Society, Mr. Douglas AUport, in a 
paper read by binif stated that a short time ago a 
person obtained a jpatent for the manufaotnre of 
■onse textile fabne whioh was afterwards for- 
feited, becaoae it was fonnd^ on nnraUing a 
oramflty, there waa therein the same sort of nuu 
terial whioh had bean made some thoosend years 

Aa I h«ve seen that gentleman's name aa a con- 
tributor te your journal, permit me to aak him 
for the namca and partioulan of the oase, er a 
lefiBFtaoe thereto. 

I was under the impression that anyone had a 
right to a patent for any invention tliat did not 
infringe on the rights of any other inventor. We 
bad spinning soom time before the invention of 
tbe spinning jerniT. There is now a company ad- 
vertised for builaing boats by machinery; but 
before I take any snares I should like to know 
whether the patent nnder whieh they are going 
to aet is secoivd, er whether it oould be upset by 
prodncinff an account of the building or a model 
of the An. Ci^abbt. 

Pabodieb. — ^Wbo was the audior of Posthumous 
Parodies and other Pieces^ London, 1814, 8vo. ? 
Where waa '*The City Shower" first printed? 
Can jtm refer me to any good parodiee in extinet 

)>eriodioals, or in volumes of miscellanea and fugi- 
tive verse? Dblta. 


CHiEE. — Can any of your readers give informa- 
tion as to the pedigree of Joseph Anne Francis 
Vincent, who was Librarian to the Naval Academj 
at Brest about 1770 P His son married a grmii 
daughter of the Marqub de Bouchier. Who waa 
this Marquis de Bouchier ? and if a French or 
Portuguese marquis, is there any printed pedigree 
of the family in the British Museum to which I 
can be direeted P B. J. Robvits. 

Fhosnix Family. — Can any of your readers, 
learned in genealogical mattexii, etvc me the his- 
tory of the Phoenix Family? The name, is cer- 
tainly a very singular one, and very uncommon ; 
there bein^ but two or three families of that 
name in this country. I should like to know the 
origin and history of this family, the prevailing 
Christian name of its members, coat of arms, and 
whether any of them ever emigrated to this 
country. J, C. Libdaat. 

St. Paul, Minesota, U. & A. 
July 4tb, 1861. 

Tbb Fuxobt, with Additiobs* — 

" WitDMs ye Bills, ve JobnaoDS. Scots, Sbebbeares, 
Hark to my call, wr some of you have ears." 

JV. r. H./br WU, vol. ii. p. 8, 1784. 

** Then should my Tory numbers, old Shebbeare, 
Tlclde the tattered fragment of thy ear." 

Do, vol ii. p. 81. 
*^ Eaoogh for ma, if I rehaarse 
Some Whigfbh maxim in my verse, 

And prove my patriotic aeaU 
I've no fond wish to lose an ear, 
(Or gain a pension) like Sbebbtan^ 
Thoogb tbe Kin^^s touth might heal." 

Do. vol. ii. p. 106. 

** Why should we Whiggish zealots fear? 
His Grace of York, and cropt Shebbeare, 

Are royal scribes appointed ; 
Passive obedience they will preach, 
Fnm aU tba loyal teats that teaoh 
To love tbe JUvd's Anointed." 

Do, vol. ii. p. 155. 

'* Earless on high* see nnabasbed Define, 
And ' Tutcbin/ flagrant from tbe scourgei below." 


I should like to know when the barharous prac- 
tice of nailing the ears to tbe pillory, and cutting 
them off, was discontinued P And whether it was 
preaoribed by any statute, or was merely an eser- 
oiae of the royal prerogative, as represented by 
the Star Chamber P W. D. 

P. S. I waive the question as to whether such 
aggravations of the punishment of the pillory 
were really inflicted m the cases of Shebbeare, 
Defoe, &c That they were at one time practised 
there can be no doubt, though perhi4)s only under 
peculiar circun 

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t2«rf S. XII. Aua. 10. 61. 

Plats in the Rawlimson MSS. — Would any 
Oxford reader of ** N. & Q." oblige me by an- 
iwering the following Queries relating to four 
old plays which are in the Rawlinson MSS. in 
the Bodleian library ? 

1. The Concealed Fatuves^ a play (no date), by 
the Lady Jane Cayendish* and Lady Elizabeth 
Brackley. (MS. Rawl. Poet, 16.) Who are the 
dnmatis persoiue f Was the play written for pri- 
yate performance P 

2. Confessor^ a Latin drama, written about 
1666, by T. Sparowe. Is thb play on the subject 
of Edward the Confessor? (MS. Bawl. Poet 

3. The Ward^ a tragi-comedy, by Thomas Neale, 
dated 16th Sept. 1637. Where is the scene of this 
play P (MS. Rawl. Poet. 79.) 

4. The Martial Queen^ a tragedy, by Robert 
Carleton, 1675. Written for private performance. 
Where is the scene of thb tr^iedy P (MS. Rawl. 
Poet. 126.) R. I. 

Scotticisms. — I am preparing for publication 
B list of Scotticisms with corrections, and as I am 
anxious to make the work complete, I respectfully 
solicit the kind co-operation of all interested in 
the subject. By a ** Scotticism," I do not mean 
the use of Scottish words, such as gar, kebbock, 
;>lowr, &c., but English words in a ScoUish mean' 
tug or construction^ as in the following sentences : 
— He was dressed in blacks. I saw a wi/e at the 
door. The church was throng. Will you have a 
^ew broth P I lifted a pin off the carpet. I met 
in with him. Sit into the fire. Ask at him, &c. 
&c. Albx. J. D. D*Orsbt. 

Corpus Christ! College, Cambridge. 

"Tag, Rao, ahd Bobtail." — In Prescott*s 
Philip the Second^ I find, as quoted from Strype 
and HoUinshed, the following : — 

** They hanted the deer, and were so greedy of their 
destruction, that they g«ve them not Tair play for their 
lives, for they killed rag and tag with hands and swords." 

As used here, these proyerbial words would 
appear as if they were terms of venerie for deer 
out of season or condition. Nares, though he im- 
plies that ** rag ** is synonymous with ** ragged,** 
and thouffh he eyidently was acquainted with the 
proverbiM expression as it heads this Query, gives 
no explanation of its origin. From whence did it 
grow into use? A. B. R. 

Abthub Walpolb, of Lincolnshire, admitted a 
pensioner of Queen's College, Cambridge, 9 May, 
1629 ; went out B.A. 1632-3 ; was elected a Fel- 
low 2 May, 1636, and admitted a supernumerary 
on the following day. In the same year he com- 
menced M.A. On 22 August, 1639, he was ad- 
mitted to the fellowship vacated by Joseph 

* I nresume these ladies were daughters of William 
Cavendish, the loy^l Duke of Newcastle, 

Plume. The Earl of Manchester ejected him 
from his fellowship 26 September, 1644, and re- 
stored him in August, 1660. In that or the fol- 
lowing year a royal mandate issued for conferring 
on him the degree of M.D., but it is doubtful if 
he were ever admitted. We desire to know more 
about him. C. H. ^ Thompson Coopbb. 


^vLttUi t»itb %ni\nni. 

Chbotiak Vigils ahd Jit wish Eves. — As 

Nicodemus ** came to Jesus by night,** the terror 
of persecution in later times occasioned the secret 
services and nightly devotions for which the early 
Christians met together. The primitive practice 
of psssing the nights before certain festivals in 
watching and prayer, is well known, as also the 
abuses which led to the discontinuance in the 
fifth century of those pious assemblages. Though 
the nocturnal meetings^ for the reasons already 
stated, were abolished as early as this, the churca 
of England retains her pious recollection of those 
primitive customs in the appointment of her 
vigils. Can they be said to have had their origin 
in the Jewish evesf and how were the latter 
kept P We have an exceptional mention of their 
observance in the Old Testament : Judith ** fasted 
all the days of her widowhood, save the eves of 
the Sabbaths, and the Sabbath, and the eves of 
the new moons,*' &c. She omitted her usual fast 
in order to keep the eves of the festivals. When 
did the eves commence in the Jewish Church P 
Joseph ^' begged the body of Jesus ** as the Sab- 
bath-eve was about to close, which hastened the 
preparation for our Lord's burial, ** that day was 
the preparation^ and the Sabbath drew on.'* Luke 
xxiii. 54. As, according to Hebrew phraseology, 
this expression does not necessarily imply an en* 
tire day, — that the wapcurKtvii or wpwrdiearw was 
reckoned from sunset on Thursday — I should be 
glad to know what was the canonical hour of its 
commencement P Was there any stated period for 
its observance P F. Phillott. 

[Much to their own detriment, conscientious Jews, who 
are engaged in trade, close their shops on Friday even- 
ings at nauet. This they do in conformity with a prin- 
ciple which they find in the first chapter of Genesis, ** The 
evening and the morning were the first day." Hence it 
is argued by their learned men, that the tme day, and 
consequently the true Sabbath, is not morning and even- 
ing, hut evening and morm'ng ; and in accordance with 
this view, the Jewish Sabbath commences with the sun- 
set of Friday, and terminates with the sunset of Saturday. 
For those Jews who- want something more precise, or 
who from local drcomstances cannot verify the exact 
time of sunset, we believe the traditionary rnle is, that 
the Sabbaih commences at that moment on the Friday 
evening when three itarg become visible. Of course Judith 
would not fast on ** the smi of the SablMith ; " the eve 
of the Sabbath being, according to this, Jewish view, a 
part and portion of the Sabbath itself. ' Understanding 

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by eres or vigils, as the terms are now employed, *'the 
Dights or evenings before certain holy^days of the 
Church," it was the opinion of the learned John Johnson, 
that their observance may have some connection with 
the Jewish eves {Clergyman's Vade-Meeum, edit 1707, 
p. 199 [175]; although Wheatly and others have more 
immediately derived them from those times of persecution 
when Christians Md their aasemblies in the night to 
ft void detection.] 

Thb DiAMoivD Necklace. — In the second 
volume of the Abb4 Georgel*i MemoirSy Paris 
edition, 1857, there is, by way of frontispiece, a 
representation of the ma^ificent diamond neck- 
lace or collar, with which the name of Marie 
Antoinette and the French Court was so much 
connected. It is entitled BepresentaHon exacte 
du grand Collier en Brillants dea Srs, Boehmer 
et Bassenge. OravS d^apres la grandettr dea Dia- 
manta. The precious stones are of marvellous 
size and number. I should be happy to lend the 
book to any one scientifically interested in such 
matters. I should also be obliged for a reference 
to some brief summary of the historical narrative 
connected with the ornament. That of the Abb^ 
Georgel is of a very different character, filling not 
less than half of no short volume. 

Francis Teehch. 

iTbe most interesting summary account of the extra- 
inary affair of the Diamond Necklace is given by 
Madame de Barrera, in her recent work Genu and Jewels, 
J 860, chap. viii. pp. 78—108. ''Many versions of the 
facts," she says, *' have been given, and these have fur- 
nished ample materials to novelists; yet the following 
account, collated from all the documents of the case, from 
the memoirs, pamphlets, and petitions of the accused and 
the accusers, as they appeared at the time it was tried, 
may prove of interest."] 

" Read amd Woeder."— In the Britiah Bihlw- 
grapher, edited by Sir E. Bryd^es, vol. i. p. 538, 
there is some account of a political satire entitled 
Read and Wonder^ &c., 1641. This satire is sup- 
posed to have been written by George Wither. 
Would you inform me what is said in the British 
JUbliographer regarding the authorship P R. I. 

[The article in the Sritiih Bibliographer ia by John 
Fry of Bristol He says, ** It is merely a conjecture, but 
from internal evidence and the strangeness of the satire, 
I should incline to believe Qeorge Wither was author of 
this pamphlet."] 

SuAKSPBARB. — An alteration of Shakspeare*s 
Henry the Fourth^ Part II., by Dr. Valpy, was 
acted at Reading School, and I believe, after- 
wards printed, 1801. Can jou give me the names 
of the actors, and inform me who wrote the pro- 
logue and epilogue ? Could yon also inform me 
who wrote the prolo^e and epilogue to King 
John^ aa acted at Reading P R. I. 

[The dramaiieperantM of The Second Part of King 
Henry IV, are — King Henry, Mr. Loring. Henry, Prince 
of ^ales. Wheelwright. Prince John of Lancaster, 
Crespigoy. Prince Humphrey of Gloucester, Wigao. 
Abp. of Tork,* Eyre. Earl of Westmoreland, Carr. 

Lord Mowbray, Nicholas. Lord Hastings, W. T. Love- 
day. Lord Chief Justice, Webb. Morton, Loveday. 
Gower, W. Andrews. Attendant on the Chief Justice^ 
Rodie. Sir John Falstaff, Ames. Bardolph, Forbes. 
Polns, G. Ames. Pistol, Elmes. Page, A. B. Valpy. Jus- 
tice Shallow, Shnter. Silence, Gaines. Davy, Los- 
combe. Fang, Eyk^'n. Snare, Balleine. Mouldy, An« 
drews. Shadow, Chandler. Warr, Whitton. Feeble, 
Loveday. Bullcalf, Chester. Hostess Quickly, Hawkes. 
The Prologue written by Henry James Pye, Esq., and 
spoken by Mr. Lorin. The Epilogue written by W. Bol- 
land, Esq. : spoken by Mr. Eyre.— The Prologue to King 
John written by H. J. Pye, Esq., and the Epilogue by 
Maurice James, Esq.] 

LoRB Chief Justice Holt. — The biographers 
of this eminent judge have almost invariably dated 
his birth on December 30, 1642 ; and the writer 
of his life in 1764 gives the inscription on his 
monument in Redgrave Church, Suffolk, as re- 
cording that date. Mr. Pearce, however, in his 
Inna of Court and Chancery, states positively that 
the said inscription gives the date 1640. The 
fact is of some importance, as it relates to the 
judge's history, independently of the advantage 
of correctness in all biographies. Perhaps some 
of your Suffolk correspondents (for no doubt you 
have as many there as in most other counties) 
may be able to tell from personal inspection 
which of these contradictory allegations is true, 
and thus set at rest the disputed point. 

Edward Fosb. 

[In Davy's Suffolk Collections (AddiL MS. 19,090, 
p. 46 6) is a copy of the inscription made by him, where 
it is stated that Lord Chief Justice Holt was ** Natns 
zz3L"<» Decembris, Anno mdcxlu."] 

John Abernetht, Bishop of Caithness, author 
of A Chriatian and Heavenly Treatise, containing 
Phyaiche for the Sovle, 3rd ed. 1630, 4to. Can 
any reader of "N. & Q.," guide me to sources of 
information concerning this good old worthy? 
Any other works f r. 

[Bishop Abernethy also published a Sermon, entitled 
The Dignity and Duty of a Christian, on Gal. v. 24, 8vo. 
Lond. 1620. For brief notices of this deprived prelate^ 
consult Keith's Scottish Bishops, ed. 1824> p. 217 ; and 
Stephen's Hist of the Church of Scotland, 1. 680, 661.] 



(2-*S. xi.38r,413.) 

Senez has opened a wide field of investigation. 
I do not propose to follow him through the whole 
of it, but there are one or two points upon which 
I shall beg to offer some observation. 

The name of Calvados at one time passed 
through my mind, as possibly pointing to the real 
root of Cqlvacamp ; but after a little considera- 
tion, I came to tne conclusion that it could not 
possibly indicate the original seat of any Ulns* 
trious family. The name appears to belong ex- 

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duMTely to a ridge of rocks some distanae out at 
sea. The origin of the name has recently been 
diaomaed in your columns. It seems to be the 
general opinion that it was not gi^en to the rocks 
till several ages after the time of Hugh de Cal- 
Taoamp. At all events I can find no habitable 
plaoe having the name of Caloados^ or any name 
at all like it. I can discover no traces of there 
having been a county of Calvados at any time ; 
nor was there, at least under the I^orman Dukes, 
any county that had Caen for its capital. Prom 
Stapleton*s work on the RoUs of the Nomum £sh 
chequer (vol. ii. p. Ivii.) I collect that Caen was 
in the county of the Bessin ; and firom the same 
authority I learn — what is very material to the 
present purpose — that this county was never 
separated from the demesne of the dukes of Nor- 
mandy. In fact, as far as I can ascertain, the 
name of Calvados had no relation whatever with 
the main land, till in the davs of republican no- 
menclature, it was appropriated to the newly- 
created department 

At the risk of being deemed pertinacious, I 
must say that from the further information con- 
tained in the communication of Sbnbx, I am con- 
firmed in my coniecture of Caude-C6te. I there 
read of Roger ae Toeni giving a third of his 
VtUe of Dieppe. If Dieppe was his vUle'Caude- 
Cote^ as a part of it, must have belonged to him ; 
and — what is a little singular, and perhaps not 
without Its significancy, — I learn from the work 
of U»e Abb^ Cochet on the Churches of the Ar^ 
rondiseement of Dieppe^ that there was within the 
ancient parish of Dieppe, a hamlet bearing the 
name of Epinatf^ now forming, with Caudfr%dte, 
part of the parish of 8t. Remi. 

As the Toeni family is shown to have been in 
very earlv times connected with the Yille of 
Dieppe, I would take the liberty of suggesting 
to Senbx, that the most effectual way of prose- 
cuting his inquiry wonld be to make a pilgrimage 
to that place; and I can assure him, from my own 
experience, that if on his arrival there, he will 
put himsd^ in comrnuoioation witk the Abb6 
Cochet, he will find him a man, not only of the 
most abundant information in all that respects 
the antiquities of the neighbourhood, but one of 
singular readiness to assist the researches even of 
a stranger, and that in the most courteous and 
agreeable manner. 

In the Ibt given by Sewisx. of those whose ar- 
morial bearings appear to indicate some connect 
tion with the bouse of Hugh of Calvacamp, I find 
Dauheney of C6te (described as a descendant of 
Bobert Todeni of Belvoir). Here let me ask, — 
Where and what was Cote f Is not this another 
singular coincidence, appearing to point to Caudt-- 

Having touched upon this noint, let me observe, 
by-the-bye, tiiat I never could make out how it 

eame to fMUs that William,soD and hmr of Bobert 
de Todeni, Lord of Balvoir, should have merged 
his patronymic in the name of De AJSnm f after- 
wards Daubeney), and that to distinguish him 
from the family of AUnni Pineema^ he should 
have been surnamed Brito^ aa if be came frona 
Brittany. Is thare any reason to«nppose that he 
was the collateral representative of some Breton 
family of AJbini f The Christian name of WiUiam 
borne by the Barons de AUtiwi for four succes- 
sive generations, apjONears to point to some other 
family than that of Todeni ; and if so, is it not 
orobable that the armorial bearin|:s of the Albini 
family came with the name P With reference to 
thb point, I would further beg to ask, is there 
any sufilcient authority for the arms of Daubeney 
(of the House of De Albini Brito) being three 
iozengee f I have seen them generally described 
as four fimUy sometimes ^oe. The four fusils 
appear on the seal of Phikp De Albini^ afiixed to 
a document of so early a date as 3 Hen. HI*, 
preserved at St. Lo, in the Archives of the De- 
partment of La Manche. It must, however, be 
observed that this Philip was a younger son, and 
the fourth fusU may possibly have bwn added to 
distinguish him from the head of the house. This 
is a point of some interest. The three lozenges 
is not a common bearing, but there are many 
families that bear fusils in fease, to the number of 
four or five. (See ^ 8. viii. 19.) And if the 
house of Albini BrUo is one of these, the ques- 
tion arises, whether it was not originally connected 
with some of the others, either through Bobert 
de Todeni, or in some other wa^. 

Adverting to the death of WiUiam Longsword, 
SsNBz speaks incidentally of the murder of a 
certain AnsehetU. Who was tiiis Anschetil ? Was 
he an ancestor of the Ansdtetil whom we meet 
with in the next century as hereditary Vicomte of 
the Bestin f If so, when he was murdered were 
his estates confiscated? Anv information thai 
BsRXz could furnish me with on these points I 
shonld esteem a fiivour. 

If the Ansobeiil that Samiz speaks of was an 
ancestor of Anschetil the Vieomte^ who Hved in 
the eleventh century, he comes within the soope 
of the present inquiry: for this Anaehatil the 
Vicomte had a son Ranulph, who married Maud, 
sister of Hugh Lnpus, Earl of Chester, and by 
her had a son Ranulph, who, to dbtinguish him 
from his fkther, was surnamed Le Mesehin, or 
the Toanger. On the death of Richard, son of 
Hugh Lupus, in 1119, this JRamdph Le Meechm 
sneceeded to the Earidom of Cnester, and is 
spoken of by English antiquaries as Btandph de 
Meeehinesy or sometimes ae Maeeenis. This is 
tbe MeeMtue, Eari of Cheater, spoken ^ by 
SxirsK as bearing gules, a lion nmipant gnardant^ 
argent If ^tbese were his arms, 1 a^ould think 
it probable that he was in some way connected 

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with the familT of Mawlnvjf^ and perhaps also 
with that of Aloini Pineema* 

The surname of Ls Mesekm or MesekMnes oc- 
curs in the rame manner in the fknily of Todeni, 
or Albini Brito. WUliam the first Baron Albini 
of BdToir had a son, ahio named WUliam^ who, 
according to Dugdale, waa *' called William dk 
A&im the Beoond, alias Mesckinn^ (fiaromigs^ 
ToLi. p. 113.) 

Ia both the instances that I have adverted to^ 
thai of Banulph Earl of Cheater, and that of 
William de Albini— the soraame of Zs MesekiM 
was purelj personal, and did .'not descend to anj 
other member of the family. Bet it is to be ob- 
served that William, the younger brother of 
Banitlph Le M$$chin, £arl of Chester, waa else 
called Ze Mesekin: and in his case it is more 
than probable that if his line had been continued, 
the svmamc woukl have become a patronymic. 
This William Le Mesehin, I suppose to be the 
De MesckineM spoken of by Sjmax as bearing 
gulea, a Ikm rampant or. 

The following quotation from StapletoQ re- 
specting the above-mentioned WilUaa le Mesohin 
may not be out of place : — 

''This WOHam, in c<miin<m with his elder brother 
Bcanalph, and bis own sod Bannslph* lisd the sntaaaie 
^ MUekkmM, adopted apparently with a view to distla- 
giiieh them fiom reJativas of the aame name with whom 
they were cootemporsry, by denoting their later birth, 
the word beiag deacriptive of a 'young man'; bat by 
the tranacriben of charters the erroneous subelkotlon of 
defotU was frequently made, itfucAmttf, or Le M eseUa^ 
u e. Jwmar being thus read ihMmckmeMt the anniame has 
been taken for one of local origia" (Stapleton, Botuli 
Scaceani Normannim^ torn. ii. p. cUxzvi.) 

P. S. Cammj. 

When Kichard Ccsnr-de-Lion built Chateau 
GraHlard, be granted to the Archbishop of fiouen 
(in exdiange for Le% AmUljfe), among other things, 
the vill of Dieppe, This exchange was eonfintted 
by a charter of King John, a.d. 1200 {BoiuU Nor- 
nutnnuBy vol. i. pp. 1, 3). 

Maj I beg of Sbnbz to be so kind as to state 
what IS the date of the charter he refers to ; by 
which Eogsr de Xoeny gave a third of his vill cf 
Dieppe to the Abbey of Conehss ? 

It is a singular circumstance that, according to 
Sbnbz, property at Zoumers was included in the 
grant thus made to the Abbey ; and on referring 
to the RotMli Nammnmm, it will be seen that the 
manor of Louyiers also figures among the other 
things given by Bicbard Cssur-de-Lion, to* 
gether with the viU of Pieppe, ia exchange for 
Les Andelys. 

Some further information on these points would 
be ferj desirable ; and in particular I would beg 
to inquire — When, and by what means, did the 
vill cf Dieppe come into the hands of the crown ? 


(2»« S. xii, 47.) 

Mr. Mewbubn, in his quotation from SeleC' 
Hone of Curious Articles from the OenilemaiC$ 
Magazine^ makes an amusing disclosure of the 
want of originality in our former periodical and 
standard literature. The quotation given, re- 
specting the use of salt for sheep, will be 
found quoted by the celebrated Arthur Young 
\n his TrweU during the Years 1787, 1788, 
and 1789, in the Kingdom of France (vol. ii. p. 
296), and said by Mr. Young to be from A 3f«- 
moir on the Spanish Flocke^ by the late Mr. 
Collinson. The quotation, so far as it ^oes, is 
verhatim as given bv Mb. Mewbubn, with the 
exception of every otner half sentence (containing 
minute facts) being, in Mb. MswauBiv's version, 
omitted. Still, there can be no doubt about the 
identity of the passage indicated. After adducing 
proofs of the existence of the same practice m 
giving salt to sheep, in a style rejoicing to the 
heart of Mr. Thorl^, the *' condiment** proprie- 
tor of our own day, as prevalent throughout the 
ancient world according to the great agricultural 
writer ColumeBa* (lib. vii.) ; and in later times 
in Italy, France, Spain, Prussia, Bohemia, Hun- 

n, roland, — all the sheep countries of Europe 
ict, and, what mav astonish us at that early 
date, "throughout all North America," where 
Mr. Young asserts that salt is given to cattle 
once or twice a week. Young concludes, as 
if in anticipation of Mb. Mbwbubb's Note and 
Query : — 

** This practice, which is aoknown in Eogland only, 
merits, I Selieve, mnch more attention than the English 
flNrmers are williag to give it, at least theee with whom I 
have ooaveiaed on the sobject 1 have tried it for two 
years past In my own flock ; and though it is very diffi- 
calt to pronounce on the effect of such additions to their 
food, except after long and repeated experiments, I have, 
I think, reaeon to be satisfied; my sheep having been 
very healthy, and oace or twioe lo when my neighboars 
suffered losses." 

Young elsewhere gives an elaborate account of 
how the sheep are led, on their long journev 
from the Spanish mountains to the plains, through 
labyrinths of stones set with pieces of salt to lick, by 
way of indurating them for their journey : and I 
shall be happy to send my friend Mb. Ubwbubn 
the extract if he desires it. He will likewise see, 
from Roberts*8 Aidumn Tottrin Spaiiiy and the most 
recent works on that country, tnat Spanish agri- 

* The quotation from Colnmella is so eafiaas, that it 
may be sited i •«> 

** Nee tamen alia eont tarn blanda pabnU, aat etian 
paacua. quornm gratia non exolescat usu coniinuo, nisi 
pecodom fastidio pastor occurrerit prasbito sale, quod velnt 
ad paboli condimentum per sBStatem canallbos ligneb 
impositum, cum e pastu redierint oves, lambvnt, atque eo 
sapors copidinem bibendl paseeadiqiie condinnnf—Col. 
De Be Burtiear lib. vii. 

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culture, and pastoral life and practice, remain 
like that of Italy — atereotyped in character: for 
in Italy the cultivation is still precisely that of 
the Georgics. As for the advantage of salt, as 
promotive of digestion, it uiust in any case be 
useful in its place and degree ; although I should 
apprehend, that while beneficial to the hardihood 
of the animal constitution, it is not so favourable 
to the growth and development of the finer tex- 
tures of wool. But last year has taught the sheep 
farmer a lesson, in the use of salt, he is not likely 
soon to forget. Professor Simmondf, in his late re- 
port on Uie sheep-rot, or the existence of the flukes 
in the liver, frankly avows that there is no other 
known specific for the prevention of that disease 
rave salt, and salt alone. Salt will not cure the 
ilisorder. Nothing has been known to kill flukes 
but the administration of turpentine : first noticed 
in an early volume, I think the first, of the cele- 
brated Bath Papers ; but then it killed the eheep 
too. But if the sheep on damp pastures receive 
an allowance now, 'in July, or rather have done 
so in June, when the actual foundation of this 
insidious disease is laid, they will escape the rot. 
Sheep depasturing the salt marshes adjacent to 
the sea, on any part of our coasts, never take it 

It is perhaps ** germane to the matter** to add, 
that in a parliamentary debate some years since 
on the salt tax in India, an Indian patriot, the 
honourable member for Poole (Mr. Henry Danby 
Seymour), exclaimed : ** Tax their salt I why the 
black fellows will go to worms, if you deprive 
them of salt.** W. Wallacb Fypb. 

Charminster, near Dorchester, Dorset 

If your correspondent ever noticed a smaU 
trough in a field, with a good many sheep gathered 
round it-, the probability is that it contained salt. 
They are very fond of it, and it is considered very 
good for them. See Lowe's Practical Agriculture 
(p. 577), or other works treating on sheep. P. P. 

(2»« S. xii. 46.) 

Mb. Stbbatfbild has, perhaps unwittingly, 
started a question which, though apparenUy 
simple, involves some points of great nicety. 
Whether the Amen at the end of the Lorcrs 
Prayer at the commencement of the Communion 
Service is to be repeated by the people is the 
vezata quastio. This subject is very fully dis- 
cussed in Dr. Pinnock*8 Laws and (/sages of the 
Church, vol. £. p. 1 166, where ten closely printed 
paces are devoted to the little word Amen. The 
opmiona of our best English ritualists will be 
found quoted there. 

Dr. Finnock lays down the following rules : — 
«* I. When the * Amen * is in the tame type as the text 

to which it is appended, it is to be said by the come person 
or persons who otter the text** 

«< 1 1. When the * Amen ' is in a different type from the 
text it becomes a req)on»e by itself,' and is to be said by 
the congregation." 

Now I find that in the Sealed Books, though 
not in all modem reprints, the Amen at the end 
of the Lord*8 Prayer, both here and everywhere 
else it occurs, is invariably printed in the same 
type as the text of the prayer, — that is, in the 
Sealed Books and early copies, old English, or 
black-letter; in modem lx>oks, when correct, 
roman, not, as sometimes incorrectly, italic 

The Irish Standard, being a manuscript, shows 
no distinction, but some Prayer-books printed in 
Dublin have the **Amen** in italics, a mistake 
which probably arose, not only from following in- 
correct English copies, but auo from the prmter 
not observing the exception in the case of the 
Lord's Prayer. Acconlingly, the "Amen** in 
the case in question, coming under the first of 
Dr. Pinnock*s rules above quoted, it follows that 
" it is to be said by the same person or persons 
who utter the text,** t. e. the Lord's Prayer. So 
that, to answer Mb. Stbbat7biu>*8 quer^, in- 
volves the discussion of another disputed point — 
namely, whether the congregation are to repeat 
the Lord*s Prayer at the commencement of the 
Communion Service, afler the priest, or not. 
Dr. Pinnock goes very fully into this question 
(I. c, pp. 1180 — 93), which he decides in the 

Certain it is, however, that the authority of 
custom is against it, for, as the Rev. Dr. Jebb, of 
Peterstow remarks, in his book on the Choral 
Service, p. 474 (being followed therein by Mr. A. 
J. Stephens in his I^tes on the Booh of Common 
Prayer, vol. ii. p. 1127) : — 

** In most Chorches, whether Colle^ate or Parochial, 
the people or choir do not audibly jom the priest in this 
Lord's Prayer till the Amen." 

Indeed, in the Cathedrals, the same usage pre- 
vails, and in many cases has even the sanction of 
choral service books. 

Thus I find a good authority, Mr. Uelmore, in 
the Accompanying Harmonies to the Brirf Direc- 
tory of the Plain Song (which are taken from 
early services of the Reformed Church) notes 
that the Lord*8 Prayer here, including the 
*' Amen,** is to be said by the ** Priest, alone.** 

Our own observation will confirm this illustra- 
tion of the power of custom as opposed (?) to 
law. It is not difficult to account for the origin 
of this practice, which has survived so long and 
almost unnoticed. 

It has for ages been the rule in the Unreformed 
Church for the Priest to repeat the Lord*s 
Prayer alone and inaudibly down to the clause 
"Lead us not into temptation,** at which he 
elevates his voice, intimating thereby to the 

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people that it wu time for them to respond with 
the conclading olause^ " Bat deliver us from 
evil. Amen.** This continued to be the practice 
in the Church of England till the last Review of 
the Frajer Book in 1662, with the exception that 
the prayer was repeated aloud, and from 1552 it 
was also joined in by the people wherever it oc- 
curred, except at the b^inning of Morning and 
Eveninff Prayer, and of the Communion Service. 

The Rev. W. G. Humphry tells us that the 
Romish costom is also still preserved in some of 
the College- Halls at the Universities, where the 
Lord*s Prayer is said in the Grace before dinner. 
(TreaHse on the Prayer Book, p. 1 12.) He adds, 
that in enjoining the people to say thb prayer 
after the priest, our Prayer Book follows the 
Ancient Greek and Gallican Churches in prefer- 
ence to the Roman. (See the authorities for this 
in Procter on the Book of Common Prayer,) In 
the Mosarabic or Spanish Liturgy the people 
answered separately to each petition, " Amen.** 

Having tnus accounted for the custom, let us 
see what is the law on the subject. The Rubric 
prefixed to the Lord*8 Prayer in the Morning 
Service, which was added at the last Review, 
directs that the prayer shall be repeated by the 
people "both here, and wheresoever else it is 
used in divine service.*' This seems sufficiently 

" It is observable, however (says Mr. Stephens, p. 418), 
that wherever the Lord's Prayer occurs, except at the 
commencement of the CommonioQ Service, the direction 
for the people to say it is repeated, although the Babrics 
are in different terms." 

This does not apply with accuracy to some of 
the Occasional Services, but custom then supplies 
any sanction that may be wanting, and there is 
no variation in practice. 

The (Question then arises whether the Com- 
munion IS comprehended under the term '* Di- 
vine Service,** so as to be included in the above 
Rubric. The Rev. J. C. Robertson (How shall 
we Conform, p. 210), proves very condusivelv 
that it should be so considered, and Dr. Pinnock 
accepts his conclusion, adding, however, that when 
the Holy Communion is used as a distinct office, 
it is considered by many as distinct from '* Divine 
Service,** and that the Lord*s Prayer should then 
be said by the priest alone. 

Such was also the opinion of the lamented Mr. 
Blunt, late Margaret Professor of Divinity at 

I know it might have been an easier task to 
answer your correspondent by simply referring 
him to the Rubric following the Absolution, which 
directs that — 

** f The people shall answer here, and at the end of 
all other prayerr. Amen." * 

* This Amen is printed in italics in Masters's reprint 
of the Sealed Book in the Tower, bat in roman in Mr. 

' Now it is more difficult than it may at first 
sight appear, to define what is a prayer in this 
sense. Indeed, the Absolution * is here styled a 
prayer. And, moreover, it is doubtful if this 
Rubric is intended to extend beyond the order for 
Morning Prayer ; though if not we might expect 
to find It repeated in the other Services. 

It is, however, a remarkable fact that, in the 
Choral Services used in the English Church, the 
Amen is almost invariably appropriated to the 
people, not in union with, but in response to, the 
clergyman. I have,, therefore, preferred to dis- 
cuss the question more fully. The subject in- 
cludes so much antiquarian matter that I hope it 
may not be deemed unsuitable for these pages. 


Merrion Street, Doblin. 

Pbibsts' Akms OS Cbbsts (2^^ S. zii. 88.)— As 
far as ancient and imiversal custom goes, the 
right of priests to use the armorial bearings of 
their families is indisputable. 

From the earliest times up to the present day, 
and in all countries where arms are used, eccle- 
siastics of every grade — Popes, Cardinals, Arch- 
bishops, Bishops, and priests — have caused them 
to be sculptured and painted in their churches, 
en^aved on their seals, and even embroidered on 
their vestments. 

In a recently published photograph of the pre- 
sent Pope, his paternal arips appear twice on his 
robes (on the stole, if I remember ri«^htly). 

The use of crests has not been so general ; since, 
abroad, the arms are usually timbred either with 

Stephens* edition, which is probably riglit I merely 
mention this to show that we-cannot always depend on 
reprints, however they may lay claim to scmpuloas ac- 
curacy. Even in Mr. Stephens's editions I coald point 
out some slight errors, though I am sure no one will 
accuse him of want of diligence in endeavouring to 
avoid them. 

* While the Amens to the Absolations in the Daily 
Services, the Communion, and the Form to be used at 
Sea, are all printed in a different type to the text, it is 
very deserving of remark that in the Absolution in the 
Service for the yisitaUon of the Siclc, the Amen is printed 
in the same type. It, therefore, comes nnder the first of 
Dr. Pinnock's roles, and is consequently to be said by 
the priest alone. 

This exceptional printing is very significant, being 
designed to exclude anv super-addition from other lips, 
and marking the peculiar authority here vested in the 

*• This diversity,*' says the Rev. Wm. Keatinge Claj', 
in a note communicated to Mr. Stephens (^Book of Common 
Prayer^ p. 1824) «« is not without meaning. The Absolu- 
tion pronounced over the sick is a purely ministerial act, 
one made authoritatively by virtue of the priestly office, 
and Christ's commission, which cannot be predicated of 
the others : consequently, it would be a most improper 
assumption for the sick person, or any one else, to at- 
tempt to add to its force by saying Amen.** This ar^"- 
ment is not less novel than ingenious. 

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a mitre or an ^cclesiaatieal hat, inatead of with a 

In Grermanj the ecclesiastical Electors, and 
those who were temporal seignenrs^ nsed to pkce 
over their arms as manT helmets and crests as 
they had fiefs, which entitled them to YOte in the 
circles of the ^pire. 

In France (Meoestrier, MMode du BUuon^ 
p. 209), the Bishops of Cahors, Dol, and Crap, 
placed the helmet on one side of the shield, and a 
sword on the other. The Bishop of Modena did 
the same thing. 

In our own country the Bishop of Durham, as 
Count Palatine and Karl of Sedberg, used to sur- 
mount his arms with either a plumed mitre, or a 
mitred helmet. J. Woodwabp. 


Arms? certainly, yes. Crests? doubtful, no. 
The priest is not, by being a priest, deprived of 
his right of gentry. His retainers will bear his 
'^honaehold badge,** and fight under his ensign. 

But, probably QSk.^ a woman), he has no right 
to bear a crest. The bishop, who is of the same 
order (bishop and priest togedier being reckoned 
as the first of the sef«n orders of clergy), bears 
no erest ; because he is not suppoaed to adren* 
tnre himself personally in battle. 

Feme, in his Blazon cf Chntrie^ says of <*a 
gentleman both spirituall and temporall, as when 
a person beetng eyther a gentleman of bloud or 
coat armour is admitted into the holve order of 
priesthoode*' ; that ** I have been tausht how that 
such a gentleman of blond, admitted into holye 
orders, ought to take two of his newest coats, and 
marshal them in his shielde, in a fielde, paled per 
oherron ; the one abore, the other beneath." 


AHcmrr Mosioal NoTAnoN'(2»' S. xii. 9a) 
— Besidea the books already ennmerated by your 
esteemed correspondents, there are others without 
which an inquiry into the subject could not be 
easily carried on. Of such are the two learned 
and standard works by that great liturgioal 
writer Gerbertus : *-^ De CaniH et Murim SaorOj 
3 Tols.; and Seriptore$ EedenanHci de Munca 
Sacra, ^e., 3 vols. ; and also the Antiphonaire dg 
Saint' OrSgoire. Facsimile du Mantuarii de SaifU* 
OaU {ierii vers 790) aceompagiU dwu Notice 
AtstonfM, ^. par L. LamhiliaUe, Bruxelles, 1S5I. 
To those who take an interest in church music, 
may be recommended Memorie Storico-criUche deUa 
Vita e delle Opere di Oiov. Pitrhagi da Pale- 
Urima, 2 vols. Roma, U29, by Baini, a oelebraled 
P«ipal chapel-maater. D. Book. 


Loan Fkakgis VuxiBaa (a»* S. xii* 70) was of 

^^«ty CoUege, Cambridge, and created M.A. 

Cambridge. ^' ^' * Thomwoh Coo««. 

Btxoii*s BxAiif (9^ 8. xii. 36.)^ Moore, in 
his Li/e of Byron, gives a rery n^nte acoouot 
of the poet's personal appearanee, but dees not 
say anything about his brain. He describes his 
h^ as remarkaUy snail, ao much so as to be 
** rather out of proportion with his Ihce.** This 
statement is confirmed by Oelonel Napier, ^iHio 
says, that in a part? ef fourteen, who were at 
dinner, not one could put on Byron's hat, ao ex- 
ceedingly small was his head. (See jByronttma.) 

The following I cut the other day out of one of 
the London daily papers : — 

" It is said that a post-mortem examination of Lord 
Campbell took plaoe. Amonnt other things, the fkealty 
speak of tlie eaormoas weight of the hrain of the late 
Lord ChaaeeUor. It weighed 6S^ ounces. OuTier's was 
the largest ever kM»«a, being 69 oaooes, bat not healthr 
like Lord Campbell*!. The avierage weight of brain is 
46 ounces." 

L. F. L; 

Qmenfield, near Manchester. 

EuaoPBAM Iqvobavci 07 Ajubica (2^ 6. xii. 
67.) — Allow me, in all oourtesy« to correct a 
sU^t error of your conespoDdent Umkda. 

During a residenoe of two years in the United 
States* I was repeatedly oalied and addressed as, 
a BrittekeTi and that, too, aerioualy, by educated 
persons, or those who would have been mudi of- 
fended if they had been called uneducated. I 
remember especially on one occasion. I was told 
by a man of soaae standing that he '* knew I was 
a Britisher by my acoemL** 

WhMe on the subject of America, I shall be 
very much obliged by any of your correspondents 
informing me where I ean lay aqr hand on a elever 
jf!f« ^TeipnK that appeared about twenty years ago 
in one of the periodieals, begnming,^^ 

** All lovers of old England's fame 
Know how the Yankee Chesapeake 
Was pommelled by oar Bhaanoa, 
Whanee th^ bear us yet I guess a piqae. 

« Bat listen, for a naval tale, 
I'm now about to handle, 
To which that iamed engagement 
Is not fit to hold a candle." 

Lbwib Evaks. 


S. zi. 467; xii. 99.) — Gospatbic aeeins to have 
mistaken the purport of my conununicaUon re- 
specting the mode and expense of travelling in the 
middle of the eighteenth century. Of course, I do 
not mean to denv that, ceteris paribus, a journey 
to London would not be more expensive now 
than formerly. In 17^9 the roads were so bad, 
that a heavy family coach required six horses to 
pull it through the miry sloughs which did their 
duty as highwavs. Upon one occasion, about 
thirty years earlier, the ricton Castle cort^e was 
eleven days on its progress to London, and the 
" coach •• was twice overturned. Travelling only 
at the rate of firom twenty to thirty miles per 

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diem, and deeptng nine or ten nights at roadside 
inns, the carriages being attended bj a bodr- 
gnard of stout serving-men on horseback, ibr the 
purpose of scaring die highwaymen, the progress 
of the familj of a person of qnalit^jr was neces- 
•arily a rerj costly one. Now, eight or nine 
homrs carries you to the metropolis from any 
part of the kingdom intersected by a railway 
within a distance of 300 miles. Thirty years ago» 
the fare inside the mail from Havenimwest to 
London was ^ix guineas ; the journey occupied 
two nights and a daj. After feeing coachmen 
and guards, paying his fare, and providing him- 
self with food during the journey, the traveller 
had YWj little change out of a ten -pound note. 

Now, you coa go in the express train, occupying 
a first-class sea^ for 2L 10s,, and are whirled up 
to London in a little more than eight hours. X 

still, therefore, maintain my opinion that tiavel- 
ling now ia much cheaper than it was a century 
ago. John Favin Fhiujps. 


Ymmmm akd ActvAt (^ S. xiL a».) -* WhM 
a BMm maintains that, whether what he kaa said 
be passible or not, at all events U is true, what ha 
aseans is, in efaet, to appeal froas argWMent to 
testiBMMiy ; and by making this appeal he gene- 
rallj contrives either to sileaoe his opponent, or 
to <kiv« him into an awkward position, something 
like the one that, in the last century, was taken 
up by David Hume. 

It mwt net be lost sighir of that, in the great 
majority of oases, the idea o# impossibility rests, at 
least in fmet, on sease mere matter of opinion ; 
and, in the er^M w r y eeneems oi life, I hardly 
know how the relation between the actual and 
the possible een be more oonectly expressed than 
by tlie common mymg, ^ What is i mf t o ssibie can- 
not be, ^» and vetj tardy comes to pass." 

I cannot refer to Aristotle as having readied 
the point of contenting himself with the fact, and 
leaving the possibility of it an open Question. But 
I conceive he goes a good way in that direction, 
wh«i ha admits the poprieU, to a eertain extent, 
of resting satisfied with the fact, without troubling 
one*8 head about the why and the wherefore :—' 

, bMk L ch. 4. 
And again in another plaoe (eh. 7) : — 

*" Owjc Ivainfrivp If owS* t^ oXtlav kv iwtwip ^ia»f, AAX* 
ixaphv iv rwi rh in dtixfivau icm^tit, otov mml mpl rM apx^* 

These passages never fail to come into my mind 
when I see parents labouring, as they fondly ima- 
gine, to develop a desire £br iaformation in their 
children, bf eneouragtap them to be perpetnally 
ariting-— H^Ay f not bemg swwe, poor parents, 
that the habit of asking questions — I mean, of 
eourae, the habit of asinng questions hy word of 
iiiottl&— stands to the desire Ibr intemation nearly 

** *Apx^ yeip rb ort * koI 
wpoaUS^^ Tov ItArtr—Nieomachaan Ethiea, 

in the same relation as tares to wheat. There is 
just similarity enough between the two to pre- 
vent the difference being perceived, till it is too 
late to weed out the one without destroying the 
other. P. 8. Cabbt. 

I cannot tell who was the first to "content him- 
self with the fact, and to leave the possibility of 
it an open question,'* but can refer to a similar 
declaration of faith above 1400 years older than 
the one given by Fa<KrBssoR Da MoneAV, viz. 
from Tertullian, who, if rightlv quoted by Sir 
Thomas Browne {Religio Meaici, part i. § 9), 
goes still further, and not merely beheves without 
troubling himself about the possibility, but ac- 
tually makes the impossibility a reason for be- 
lieving I The Doctor says, — 

**I can answer all the objections of Sataa and my 
rebellioiu reason with that odd resolution I learned of 
TsrtuUiaB, Otrtttm mi ^oxa twppwttat o^.** 

Some of your readers may perhaps be able to 
refer to the original passage in Tertullian, bat the 
indices to Oehlei^s eaition give me no due to it. 



S. i. 399, 443, 502; ii. 56, 113, 215.)— The fol- 
lowing quotation from Raines* Hietary of Blyth 
(Westmmster, Nichols & Son, I860,) will be read 
with interest bv those wh(An the arguments and 
hypotheses of X.H. W., (juoted from Oent. Mag^ 
1780 (p. 940), did not quite convince that the yew 
is not an indigenous tree. I observe, by the way, 
that none of your correspondents followed on the 
same side as Mb. AjuaBBnoN Holt Whitb. I 
may add, that by the kindness of Mr. Raine, I 
have been able to deposit, in the Museum of the 
Roval Gardens, Kew, authenticated specimens of 
each description of timber found in the Cars ; which 
may there be inspected by any one who seeks 
confirmation of the facts stated by Mr. Raine. and 
does not wish to take the trouble^ of a journey 
into Nottinghamshire and Yorkshire. The yew 
from the Cars has been compared by a competent 
authority with specimens of wood tien from yew 
trees of the present day, and is by him pro- 
nounced to be undoubtedly yew. 

The argument of T. H. W., that " any indi- 
genous tree " of like nature with the yew " would 
certainly have become one of our comnnonest 
trees,** must have been brought forward without 
considering, that, being poisonous to cattle, and 
at all times a dense shade from the sun, it would 
be excluded from all arable and pasture land ; 
and as these two descriptions of land increase «n 
extent, the range of the yew must diminish. 

Mr. Raine writes (p. 2) : — 

"The soil of thsM Cars" (ria. Grinfley. Evwton, 
MisM>n, and Styrrup,) **i8 all essantially of tha same 
character —bUck bog, and is filled wiih trees ; generally 
speaking, pln^ oak, and yew : which have evic?-' 
stood very thick on the gromid, and having fUler 

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the b«se, and letTing their roots in iihi, are buried about 
a foot deep, although in some iastances much deeper. 

They have fallen in every direction. The tenants 

of these lands are gradually reclaiming them by extir- 
pating these old occupants of the soil, which are coo- 
Terted to the practical purpose of fuel, or the more 
ornamental of garden fences and gateways." 

GxosoB £. Fbbbb. 
Roydon Hall, Diss. 

Mazbb Bowl (2"* S. xii. 519.) —In Bailey's 
English Dictionary^ he gives : — 

** MazeSne, A macer ; a wooden cup made of maple." 

** Maztr (of Moescr Belg., maple-wood,) a broad stand- 
ing cup, a drinking bowl.*' 

There are many instances in old writers of the 
maple cap. The old hanrest-song says : — 
'* Our bowl it is made of the maplin tree.** 
The JElfrie Olossary gives mapuldor as the A.-S. 
for maple. Can any Teutonic scholar show the 
derivation of the Belgic word qaoted by Bailey ? 
Or, after all, can it by any possibility be a mere 
corruption of the Latin word acer t A. A. 

Ab : Abbb (2**^ S. xii. 53.) — May I be per- 
mitted to suegest a correction of the derivation of 
the word AI^ by your correspondent QnBBM*s 
Gabdbhs. I think this word is in no wa^ con- 
nected with the Persian noun Sb^ water. This is, 
I believe, derived from the Sanskrit amb^ or ambu. 
If the letter, or semi-liquid sound, m, be pro- 
nounced with a slight nasal, or French intona- 
tion (as it is, I uiink, sometimes sounded in 
Sanskrit), it is easily dropped when transferred to 
another dialect ; and in the word d^, its elision 
is compensated by lengthening the vowel a. 
Perhaps the British word " avon"* is derived from 
UmbUf dbu^ or dvu, Aber is, on the contrary, a 
purely Semitic word, derived from JEber or Aber 
— Anibic and Hebrew. It signifies ** a passage 
over water, over a river or sea, a foro," &c.; 
perhaps a place qf passage, the head of a stream, 
an embouchure, dx. The word Hebrew (rather 
Ebrew, Eberite^ is a derivative of thb word, 
which is symbolical as well as historical. It 
signifies **an emigrant who arrives by crossing 
water'* — a river or the sea. Abraham was a 
Hebrew, in leaving Chaldssa for Canaan ; the 
Israelites were Hebrews, in crossing the Red Sea 
and the Jordan ; and all Christians are Hebrews 
by crossing the waters of baptism. I believe that 
the position of many of the Welsh localities which 
commence with the word Aber, may in some 
degree corroborate this derivation. J. R, 

VicAB OF ToTTBNHAM (2^ S. xii. 69.)— I have 
discovered since writing that Query, that these 
two clergymen have the title of (5ardina], and 
that the present Vicar of Tottenham has the right 
of burying illustrious persons in consequence of 

being a Prebend of St. Paul*s Cathedral. I shall 
be very glad of further certain information as 
to these two Cardinals — how and when they ac- 
quired this right.* I am told that it was only at 
tne particular request of Dean Mtlman that the 
Vicar of Tottenham resigned his right of burying 
the Duke of Wellington. Notsa. 

LoBD Chahcbllob Stbblb : Sib Richabb 
Stbblb (2"« S. xii. 71, 89.)— In reply to the 
Queries of your correspondents, published in last 
last week's " N. & Q.,^ I beg to state, with re- 
ference to the date of Chancellor Steele's death, 
that Uiere does not appear to be any tombstone in 
St Werburgh's churchyard bearing his name ; 
nor do tiie parish registers, as I am informed, 
of the date prior to 1703, exist ; the preceding 
having, as I understand, been destroy^ b^ fire. 
My authority for stating that he was buned in 
St. Werburgh's churchyard, is, the following 
entry in a MS. book of iBaptisms and Funerals in 
Dublin, preserved in the library of Trinity Col- 
lege, Dublin: " W« Steele, L* Chancellor of 
Ireland, bur ... . 1657,* S» W." The year is 
manifestly erroneous; Steele havinff been con- 
tinued as Chancellor by patent of Richard Crom- 
well, dated 16th Oct. 1658; and having been 
nominated as a member of the Conunittee of 
Safety in Oct 1659. I have reason to2 believe 
that he was in the exercise of his profession as an 
adyising Counsel at a much later period. 

My authority, for stating that Wm. Steele was 
M.P. for the port of Ronmey, is Noble ; [in whose 
Cromwell (vol. t. p. 396,) it is recorded, that ** Wm. 
Steele, Chancellor of Ireland, was returned for 
the port of Romney in the Parliament called in 
the 15th of King Charles L" 

I repret I cannot give any information respect- 
ing Sir Richiurd Steele's first wife, the lady of 
Barbadoes. Wm. £dw. Stbblb, M.D. 




Re^£rche$ ntr la ViUe de La Bastie et «efl Etmnms, par 
£. Mannier. 1 voL 8vo. Paris : Aubiy. London: 
Williams & Norgate. 

Etudes EtymohgigmeM, Historiques, et Comparatioet sur 
lee Nome dee Villee, Bowat, et Vulagee da Dipartement du 
Nord, par E. iitainiw. lvoL4to. Paris: Aubry. Lon- 
don : Williams & Norgate. 

The two volumes now before ns are valuable contribu- 
tions to local history. This branch of studies has for the 
last few years been prosecuted with unwonted vigour in 
France, and the results which it has produced deserve to 
be recorded for their importance and interest To quote 
the words of BL Mannier himself: ** The HeU brought 
out by local historians constitute the elements of the 
general history of the country, and they lead subse- 

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qnently to the discovery of a number of carious details 
respecting the laws and institations of onr localitiesi the 
customs of their inhabitants, their usages and tradi- 
tions," &C. 

The town of La Bass^, situated in Flanders, has not 
perhaps by itself mnch importance ; bat its position, near 
the frontiers of France, gave it a peculiar character ; and 
exposed it at the same time to the attacks of their ene- 
mies, against whom the kingdom was obliged to main- 
tain its independence. Between 1802 and 1713, La Bass^ 
had to undergo seTenteen sieges oi^ military occupations: 
the most serious of which was the siege carried on in 
1642 by the Spanish army, under the command of Don 
Francisco de Mello. This event is fully related by M. 
Mannier in the second chapter of his book ; and the whole 
operations which took place are illustrated in an excel- 
lent map engraved from the original, preserved at the 
Paris Imperiid library. The municipal institutions of the 
city, form the subject of the third chapter : here we have 
a literal transcript of the charter granted during the 
fifteenth century by the Dukes of Burgundy ; this docu- 
ment is really important, on account both of the style 
and of the singular character of some enactments which 
it contains. After giving a sketch of the feudal customs 
(chap, iv.), and ecclesiastical history ^chaps. v.— vii.), of 
La BaasM, M. Mannier concludes with a biographical 
list of the aUbritH BcM^nnea ; these, we are bound to 
say. do not call for any particular notice, and even their 
names would now be uttcly forgotten, had it not been 
for the zeal of their learned compairiote. 

M..Mannier*si?ftu/e E'tymoiagiquet is a work still more 
interesting than the one we have just been describing; 
and it commends itself particularly to the study of the 
English reader, on account of the numerous parallels 
which etymological researches suggest between the names 
of localities both here and on the other side of the Chan- 
nel The author very wisely remonstrates, in his pro- 
lamines, against the arbitrary and fanciful method 
adopted by some scholars, who» carried astray by their 
patriotism, see everything from a Celtic, Latin, Teutonic, 
or Sanskrit point of view, as the case may be. Thus, to 
quote only one instance. Bullet {Mhnoiret aur la Langue 
Celiique) goes so far as to ascribe a Celtic origin to names 
whicn are obviously of Latin extraction. The merest tyro 
in grammar would say at onee that la comti is derived 
from eomitaitts, la couture from cuUurOf and k warde from 
eustodia ; but no, M. Bullet steps in and decides seriously, 
that the Celtic words, Cont, Ojultr-uje, and Luh-war-da, 
are respectively the priueipium etfons of the three desig- 
nations we have alluded to. Another rock against which 
etymologists not unfrcquently split, is, their own imagina- 
tion. When grammars and lexicons are at fault, they 
make a final appeal to la folk du logie, and the results of 
this appeal prove generally of the most ludicrous descrip* 
tion. According to this system, nothing is more obvious 
than the etymology of Montreuil-snr-mer. This town 
and its environs were, in days of yore, laid waste by a 
sea- monster; who. Cyclop-wise, boasted only of one 
visual organ. The inhabitants, alluding to such a ter- 
rible scourge, said habitually : •* Monstrat oeulum / . . ." 
Hence, Monireuil 1 1 

M. Mannier's plan is as follows : he considers separately 
the seven arrondUssemetUs which make up the V^ntrtement 
du Nord, and io each of the seven corresponding sections 
he places alphabetically the names of all the towns, vil- 
lages, hamlets they include, giving from mediteval char- 
ters and other documents the various ways of spelling 
these nanies^ suggesting at the same time the probable 
etymology, and adding a few historical particulars. 

Jehan de Park, Valet de Chambre el Pantre Ordinaire 
det Sou Charkt VIIL et Lmds XII^ par J. Beooayier. 

Pritidh d^une Notice Biographiqw, par George Duplessis. 
8vo. Paris : Aubry. London : Williams & Norgate. 

It is with a feding of pain that we notice this in- 
teresting brochure. M. Renouvier. to whom we are in- 
debted for it, and whose works on archaeology and general 
literature are so well known, is now remove from amongst 
us; the monograph on Jehan de Park appears in the 
character of a posthumous production, and the excellent 
biographical sketch of the lamented author, preOxed by 
M. George Duplessis, makes us regret still more that we 
should henceforth be deprived of the advantages which 
we were so thoroughly justified in expecting from a 
tavant like M. Renouvitir. 

Respecting Jdtan de Park himself, every scrap of in- 
formation that could be procured has been brought to 
Ught in the work now under consideration ; this amounts 
certainly to very little, but it will help us to place Jehan 
de Paris in a high rank on the list of early French 
painters. He seems to have lived towards the end of 
the fifteenth century, but although the dyptich exhibited 
at the Mus^ de Cluny, and known as la Mease de Stant 
GrSgoire, is generally ascribed to him, this opinion is too 
hypothetical in its character to allow of our deducing 
from the picture in question any remark on the style, 
comnoeiUon, and colouring of Jehan de Paris. 

We are glad to find that three more works left in MSS. 
by M. Renouvier will be published immediately, and 
especially his Recherchee tur VArt et sea Inatttutiona pen- 
dant le ririode r^volutionnaire. 

Notice aur k Chdleau de Sarcua, tel qu*il deoaU itre en 
1550, pr^ddi d^une Notice Biographique aur Jean de Sar* 
cue, par M. A. G. Houbigant— iVbtice avr/e Portique dit de 
Sarcua exkiant h Nogent-lea- Vierge*. — Rijaonae aux Cri- 
t^uea faitea par M. Paul Lecroix, &c. — Recueil dea An^ 
ti^uitia Bellovaquea eonaervtea dana k Cabinet de M. Hon- 
btgant, 4 vols. 8vo. Paris : Aubry. London : Williams 
& N<^rgate. 

We had thought, up to the present time, that poets 
alone composed the class designed as genua irritabik ; but 
we are now convinced that they have no right to claim 
a monopoly of bitterness ; and after having read the ex- 
traordinary debate which has lately taken place between 
M. Houbigant and M. Paul Lacroix, we must include 
even archaeologists under the designation. M. Paul La- 
croix, we know not for what reason, appears to have 
conceived a particulars pite sgalnst M. Houbigant This 
gentleman, as far as we can understand, has earned in 
the most honourable manner a large fortune. He spends 
this fortune in a manner perhaps still more praiseworth3'. 
He has collected, arranged, and rendered available to the 
public a large quantity of C^tio curiosities; he has pur- 
chased, restored, and embellished a rare specimen of re- 
naissance architecture, which was on the eve of being 
destroyed ; finally, he has written an interesting descrip- 
tion of these various curiosities,— description profusely 
illustrated with woodcuts, lithographs, steel engravings, 
plans, &c. One would suppose that such an instance of 
enlightened liberality would have elicited nothing but 
praise from those who are interested in archaeological 
studies : but no ; M. Paul Lacroix finds fault with it on 
grounds which we profess we cannot make out ; be has 
systematically attacked M. Houbigant in a manner both 
unfair and ungentlemanly ; and we have felt bound to 
allude to this dispute here because we believe that if 
persons engaged in historical labours are to be denounced 
for a few unavoidable mistakes which they may happen 
to commit or to overlook, M. Lacroix is the last man who 
should thus put himself forward. Now to the broehttre 
of M. Bonbijpsnt, the real subject of this notice. 

The RecueU dea Antiquit^a must not be considered as a 
mere catalogue of antiquities ; it is that, no doubt, bnt it 

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it MBMtkfaig •be* ftod Um leariMd txpUaAUooa gfrea bj 
M. HoabigMit on the ritet of borial amongst the Gaiil% 
on tb«ir coiiif» and their potteriei, make of this Tolomean 
excelleot manual of Celtic arcbaolofy. The cabinet thna 
described is eridenUy a verr rich onet the articles which 
compose it haye been jadicioosly arranged« and some of 
them are quite rarities. We have noticed particularly 
the description of a gold girdle of curious workmanship 
preserved by M. Hoobigant* and presented by him to the 
museum of the Louvre. 

Jean de Barons, whose biography ooeapies the first 
pages of the Notice mw U (Mieau tU Sarmih was one of 
the valiant captains who, towards the bsfdnning of the 
sixteenth century, defended the North of France against 
the troops both of the English and the Imperialists. 
His name is found mentioned by several of his contem- 
poraries^ such as Flsurange and Martin du Bellay, with 
very few details, however, because ths expeditions of the 
French in Italy engrossed so thoroughly public attention 
that little notice was taken of warriors who on other 
points defended the frontiers of the kingdom. Jean de 
Sarcas built in the village which bears his nsme, and 
which is situated in the D^parttmaU tk rOi$e, a splendid 
msnsion, constructed according to the Renaissance style, 
and apparently flniebed in the year 1550. After having 
passed through several hand^ and been allowed to fall 
into ruins, the ehdteau of Sarcus was on the point of being 
completely destroyed in 1864, when M. Houbigant had 
the happy idea of collecting thoee ruins, of rebuilding 
them, and of thus restoring what was cerUinly a remark- 
able ipeeinen of Freaeh sculpture and arehitectnre. 
After thoe protecting against ultimato destraetton the 
last remains of the tMtatm of Sareus, M. HoaUgaat caused 
drawings to be made of its principal parU br competent 
artists, and the results of his incessant activity are now 
submitted to the public 

The exact portion of the orfginal building thus pre- 
served and transported by our antiauarian to his^own 
residence^ amounts to twenty-two arches, fbrming a kind 
of portico, bssidee a few mutilated fragmeoto picked up 
here and then from amidst the ruins. By dint of patient 
study and comparison with other buildings of the same 
epoch, M. Houbigant has attompted to give a plan and a 
drawing of the ehdteau of Barcus such as he fancies it 
must have appeared in 1650. when it was completed. Of 
course in an undertaking of that kind there is a large 
field open to mere hypotbeass j but still the idea Is an in- 
genious one, and when it is carried out by so learned, so 
good a Judge as M. Houbigant, it deesrvea fklrer hand- 
ling than the one whkb it has reoeived from M. Paul 

Si^ dtOrliane en 1429, Mimoiret turlee D^pensee faiiet 
par Im OrUanaie en prMtion du tiege et pendant $a durie, 
etc., extrait dee comptee de la ville d'Ort^ne et de divert 
autenre et MS 8. Par Tergnand-Komagndsl 8vo. Paris : 
Anbry. London : Williams and Norgate. 

M. Vergnaud-Romagn^ is a learned gentleman who 
devotes his leisure to researches concerning the life of 
Joan of Aic. and more particularly that part of it which 
is connected with the siege of Orleans by the English. 
The i>amphlet he has recently published is one of the 
most interesting of his works on that subject, because it 
entors into details which are supplied neither by ths 
journal of the siege nor by other historians. After giv- 
ing the general account of^the expenses made during the 
war, M. Yergnaud-Romagn^ has added a list of the 
various donations, presents, indemnifications, &c, sub- 
scribed on behalf of Joan of Arc personally, or of the other 
members of her family. 

„ GurrAYB Mamon. 




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C'oT" HsayBoftn. Vols. L 11. HI. in 1 Tols. (New EdMoa)i and 

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to obtain a aiokt qfC B. Omilrsx's Esther. 

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Bowl — Ab : Al>pr — Vicar of Tottenham — Lord Chancel- 
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CONTENTS. —N» 294. 

NOTES : — Blackfriars Bridge, 121 — The Thumb Bible, 122 

— Learned Societies of the United States, 123 — Blades's 
"Lifte of Caxton," 124 — Origin of the word "Happaree," 

MijfOB Notes : -- American Officers before the Revolution 

— Foreman, slang use of — Palaver — Socrates — Napoleon 
at Elba — Queen Philippa's Portrait — Windham Rimily, 

QUERIES : — Animals and B. V. M. — John Brinsley— 
Dristol Dramas — Mr. Dyke of Ck)gge8hall and St. Albans 

— Farlev Horse Monument — Penue and Ward Families— 
Gk)i8fricfus de Bechc, of Domesday Book — John Ham- 
mond. M.D. — William Hampton — Honorary Initial Let- 
ters — Countess of Huntingdon — Parodies on Gray's 
"Elegy" — Prideaui Queries— Private Printing Presses 

— N. A. P. Puaux — ^* Servo per regnaro "— Family of 
Steele of Cheshire — Tennyson s ** Princess " — The Year 
1588, 126. 

Queries wim A^swiths : — Dudley Bradstreet — D. B. 
Baker — Bucharistic Wine. 129. 

REPLIES: — Destruction of Monuments, 129— Seal of 
Robert De Thoeny. 181 — Origin of the Word Chapel, 132 — 
Nicholas Tettcrsoll. 13.^ — Photography Foreshadowed, 134 

— Rasters of the Stationers' Company, /&. — Birth of 
Napoleon 11. — Charles Anthony — Rev. Cornelius Bayley, 
D.D. — Hastings- Bequest of a Bed — Skippet — Peter 
Tempje, the R^cide — Dutra — Judges Powell and Twys- 
den on Witches — Land Measure— Chronicle of Worces- 
ter—Passage in Demosthenes— Sir Richard Pole, K.G.— 
Law of Settlement: Inmates— Maypoles — Captain John 
Meares — Sir Roger Wilbraham — Heraldic — The Paston 
Family — Edward I. and Llewelyn — Dr. Alabaster — 
Britishers — Possible and Actual — Phoenix Family — 
Dark Ages— The Etonian, 136. 


The demolition of Blackfriars Bridge promises 
to be as fertile of controversy as the origmal pro- 
posal to erect it, just a century ago. The utility 
of the thing was universally recognised ; but then, 
as now, the Civic authorities could not agree 
amongst themselves as to the best mode of proce- 
dure. Seven years (1753-1760) were consumed 
in obtaining an Act of Parliament to carry for- 
ward the work, and in discussing the comparative 
merits of elliptical and semi-circular arches. 
Much scientific learning, highly seasoned with po- 
litical spite, was expended on the occasion. In 
fact, the battle of the arches, in the last century, 
was infinitely more fierce and protracted than that 
of the gauges in our time. The combatants on 
either side rallied to the cries of " beauty " and 
"solidity." Mr. Robert Mylne, an unknown 
Scotch engineer, who had recently returned from 
Rome, and established himself in this metropolis, 
suggested the elliptical, and Mr. Thomas Simpson, 
the most celebrated mathematician of his day, the 
semi- circular arch. The palm of victory was ul- 
timately awarded to the Scotchman. His success 
was owing, in a ^at measure, to the untiring 
exertions of his friend Mr. John Paterson, City 
Solicitor and C. C, the original projector of the 

bridge.* The last- mentioned gentleman, being 
the head of the Anti-Wilkite party in the city, 
unwittingly occasioned the introduction of politics 
into the strife, which was rendered keener by the 
fact, that liis protege belonged to the same country 
as Lord Bute, then the first minister of the crown. 
Amidst torrents of abuse and ridicule, the qtiasi^ 
fortunate engineer prosecuted his labours. The 
first stone of the bridge was laid 31 st Oct. 1760. 
It was opened for general traffic on the 18th Nov. 
1769. Just before the completion of the work, 
Churchill took occasion, in the poem which he 
founded on the story of the famous ghost of 
Cock Lane, to condense, in a few withering lines, 
the popular feeling as well against Paterson as 
Mylne : — 

** What of that Bridge, which, void of sense, 
But well supplied with impudence. 
Englishmen, knowing not the Guild, 
Thought they might have a claim to build. 
Till Paterson, as white as milk. 
As smooth as oil, as soft as silk. 
In solemn manner had decreed, 
That on the other side the Tweed, 
Art, bom and bred, and fully grown, 
Was with one Mylne, a man unknown ; 
But grace, preferment, and renown 
Deserving, just arrived in town : 
One Mylne, an artist perfect quite. 
Both in bis own and country's right, 
As fit to make a bridge as he, 
With glorious Patavinity, 
To bQud inscriptions, worthv found 
To lie for ever under ground." — The Ghost, B. iv. 

The concluding lines contain " the unkindest 
cut** of all. They refer to the extraordinary 
Latin inscription to the honour of the first William 
Pitt (vide " N. & Q.** 1" S. vi. 89), engraved on 
the foundation-stone of the bridge, which was 
originally named after him. In demolishing that 
structure, it is to be hoped that special care .will 
be taken of the stone in question, and that it may 
be preserved, with the other interesting relics of 
the city, in the Guildhall. Notwithstanding the 
inscription is expressed ^* in a tongue unknown 
to our citizens,** as the wits of the time persisted 
in averring, a double interest attaches to it : first, 

• For an interesting account of Mr. P. and of the vari- 
ous offices which he mled in the City and in Parliament, 
see GenCs Mag. fix., 1155. He died 8 Dec. 1789, at 
the advanced age of 85. The following characteristic 
anecdote is related of him, a few years before bis death : 
He invited to dinner Deputies Jones and Hurford, who 
calculated not only on surviving, but also succeeding him 
as clerks respectively to the Commissioners of Land-tax 
and Window- duties. When they were seated at table, 
and the viands placed before them, he apologised for not 
taking his seat till his mother appeared to do the honours, 
&c. " A mother living at your age, Mr. Paterson I " 
simultaneously exclaimed both his guests. " Yes, gen- 
tlemen," replied their host; "mv mother is but one 
hundred and odd, and all my family have been remark- 
ably long-lived." The city ploralist survived them 

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as a monument to the patriotism of the great 
minister; and, secondly, as an index to one of the 
most entertaining^ passages in our civic history. 
The author of it was Faterson, who, by this unlucky 
scholastic effort, exposed himself afresh to the 
stinginff shafls of his enemies. He never heard 
the end of his "city Latin." He was nick- 
named i?i/«% BircA, LL.D., F.R.S., F.G.S., and 
M.S.E.A.M.C. (i.e. Member of the Society for the 
Encouragement of Arts, Manufactures, and Com> 
merce). Pamphlets and broadsides, in prose and 
versei were showered upon Iiim. Of the few — 
very few of the latter — which have been preserved, 
fhe following is, probably, an average sample. It 
is entitled : — 

7*c Antiquarian School ; or the City Latin electrified. 
By Erasmus Hearne, M.A., F.A.S. 
AiinprasentL — Lilly's Gram. 
** Te good men of London, attend to ray song, 

Which some may think right, and others think wrong; 

Some may think it too long, and others too short, 

*Tis hard'to please all, you may take my word for*t ! 

Deny down, &c, 
*< While some channt the praises of Sam, the esquire. 

Who, mounted on Minor, appear a Foote higher * ; 

Some of Shandy or Squintum, true sons of the Church, 

ril sing the adventures of brare Doctor Birch. 

** Busby Birch, true descendant of Busby the Great, 
A flogster most famous, historians relate ; 
But his fame when compar*d with our hero '• but small, 
For this learned antiquarie has flogg^ ye all. 

** But should it be ask'd, on what ground or pretence. 
Or, what gave the Doctor so grievous offence? 
Why, good Sirs, the City hath scribbrd a stone 
To the honor of Pitt — at the same time their own. 

** And the Doctor insists, that the City 's disgraced 
By this Latin inscription without Roman taste ; 
That the Anglicisms in it are greatly absurd, 
For vltimo die, postremo *s the word. 

** Poor Auapieattttimo will not go down, 
But Optimo, surely, will please all the Town ; 
Like a picture I've seen, that 's not ill exprest. 
Where a ma put for mo, and it stands for the best 

** The jam inennte he needless will have. 
And thinks it but right all that trouble to save ; 
*Twould have been as well said, nay, the Doctors believe, 
That C[hitt]y, the Mayor, was just taking his leave. 

" The Doctor then lashes monosyllable m, 

Applied thus, he deems it a capital sin ; 

Then cries, in a rage, * Take up little turn. 

You've no business here — look after your bum ! * 
•* His choler abating, he alter*d his strain. 

Oft smoothing his brow in a jocular vein ; 

Then laugh*d he so hearty, his sides both did crack — 

* See I see 1 how they run, with the Bridge on his back I ' 

• An allusion to Foole's comedy of The Minor, in which 
he hit off both the manner and persons of several well 
known individuals. He had the assurance to send his 
MS. to the Archbishop of Canterbury, with a request 
that his grace would be pleased to expunge any objec- 
tionable matter in it ; which the archbishop, of course, 
returned untouched. The author hoped to advertise his 
play as "corrected and prepared for the press by his 
Grace, the Lord Archbishop," &c. 

<< But puzzl'd again, could not make it appear 
Whose voluntas it was ^nor, indeed, is it clear) ; 
Still his face wore a smile, till he cast his eye down, 
Spying contagione — O did'nt he frown ! 

" Contagio — contachu — contangere — et — 
Thus work'd himself up in a wonderful pet : 
' Sir Contagion (quoth he) Til make vou to know — 
To know, aye, and taste. Sir, my birch, ere you go I ' 

•* What a group of hard words here together is hurFd, 
Which plain, simple folks are wont to call world — 
0, how could I wish little tua was here. 
Which patri<t was meant — then the case would be 

*' But, ah ! what a pity, disastrous to tell. 
In the room of P. AC.C.F.L Q.L. 
Cites Londinentet are placed in their stead — 
Mere, mere dunces all ! and in antiques unread ; 

** For if they'd known better, instead of a Pitt, 
The name Latinized, they a Fotaa had writ ; 
Guil : FosMt is Koman — Guil : Foss^b 's the thing, 
And pater patri<e sounds far greater than King. 

** Now ending my song, in the language of France, 
With famed Ed ward*s raotto Honi soit qu^ mal pense — 
A mere trifle this, some few moments to kill — 
Dear Doctor don't flog me for writing so ill I " 


In the first Series of " N. & Q." iv. 484, a cor- 
respondent asks for the history of The Thumb 
Bible reprinted by Longman & Co. 1849, which 
has not, I think, been responded to ; and by way 
of reviving the Query, and stimulating some curi- 
ous " Cutlsean," I crave a corner for what little I 
have to communicate upon the subject. Pre- 
suming that the editor of the reprint knew some- 
thing of the bibliography of his book, it is to be 
regretted that he has presented it to us so baldly. 
The title Thumb Bible, not being found in the 
old copies, is probably given to this little book 
for the first time in 1849 ; and the reprint is from 

**The Third Edition with amendments. London: 
Printed forTho. James, and are to be sold at the Printing 
Press in Min^'ing Lane, and most booksellers in Lend, 
and Westminster." Without date. 

Upon the back of the title is the Imprimatur, O. 
Lancastevy 6 Oct. 1693, between which dates and 
1700 it must have issued from the press; the 
Duke of Gloster, to whom it is dedicated by J. 
Taylor, having died in the latter year. Two in- 
troductory pieces in verse, To the Reader, and 
The Epistle follow, and at the end, as stated 
by your correspondent, are Prayers for Morning 
aiuL Evening, mutilations of Bishop Ken's Hvmns. 
So much for the old copy represented by the re- 
print. Now let me introduce to the reader of 
** N. & Q." my edition of this literary curiosity, 
which as it lies before me, alongside T'he Oigantich 
History of the Giants (see "N. k Q." 2»* S. viii. 
450), is a pigmy that will be more strikingly ex- 

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hibited by confining the title to its own limits, 
thus : — 




Printed by John 

Forbes 1670. 

The Oigantick History^ 
according to Mb. Nich- 
ols* measurement, is 2 
by 2^ in.; my Aberdeen 
Thumb Bible 1| by If 
in. ; consequently, one 
of the Uniest tomes in 
existence; and I flat- 
ter myself the Editio 
Princeps of the work, in 
which case this little 

S»etical summary of the 
oly Scriptures is of 
Scottish origin. The title to the N. Testament, 
Salvator Mundiy imprint repeated ; both have 
half-tides. The Bible and Neio Testament; and 
the whole comprehended within 140 leaves. 

The Bible is dedicated to Queen Katherin^ and 
the Testament **Tothe High Majestie of King 
Charles," which latter I subjoin : — 

" Dread Sovreign, I with paios and care have took, 
From out the greatest book, this little book. 
And with great reverence 1 have caVd from thence, 

All things that are of greatest consequence. 
And tbongh the volume and the work 1 
Yet it conuins the snm of All in All. 

To you I give it, with a heart most fervent, 
And rest yoor humble subject, and your servant 

•• Jo. Tayjm)b." 
There are two other addresses, also in verse, 
To the Reader, and the work concludes with A 

** Good God almighty; in compassion tender, 
Preserve and keep King Charles, thy faith's defender. 
Thy glory make his honor still encrease 
In peace, in warrs, and in eternal peace. 

The reader may guess that there is but little 
scope here for the Bible, Apocrypha, and New 
Testament; the abstract is indeed concise and 
neat: take, for example, a specimen from 1 
Samuel : — 

** Goliah armed leades an hoete firem Gath, 
Defies the Lord of Hosts, provokes his wrath. 
Tonng David comes, and in his hand a sling, 
And with a stone the Gyant down doth ding." 
How this diminutive volume has piloted itself 
so safely through the vicissitudes of nearly two 
centuries, is most marvellous ; and as I have 
neither seen nor heard of any of the old copies, 
except my own and the one reprinted, I shall be 
glad if any of your correspondents can follow up 
the subject, and bring others to light, or furnish 
information about the author, Jo. Taylor. 

Albxandbb Gjukatnb. 


The following list of the learned Societies of 
the United States, has been compiled/rom the 

reports and proceedings of the various Societies 

recorded in tne pages of The Historical Magazine 

and Notes and Queries concerning the History and 

Biography of America, It is believed that this 

catalogue will be found useful by the readers of 

" N. & Q.,*' as the information it contains is not 

to be found ebewhere in a collected form. 

Albany Institute - - - New York. 

American Academy of Arts and 

Sciences .... Boston. 

American Antiquarian Soc. - Worcester, Mass. 

American Baptist Historical Soc Boston. 

American Ethnological Soc. - New York. 

American Genealogical Soc - New York. 

American Geographical and Sta- 
tistical Soc ... - New York. 

American Numismatic Soc. - New York. 

American Oriental Soc - - Boston. 

American Statistical Association Boston. 

Chicago Historical Soc. - - Chicago. 

Connecticut Historical Soc. - Hartford. 

Dedham Historical Soc - - Dedham, Mass. 

Dorchester Antiquarian and His- 
torical Soc. .... Dorchester. 

Dudley Association ... Boston. 

Essex Institute ... Salem, Mass. 

Fire Lands Historical Soc - Norwalk, Ohio. 

Florida Historical Soc - - St. Augustine, Florida 

Georgia Historical Soc 

Harvard Club. 

Illinois Literary and Historical 

Soc .- - - - - Alton. 

Iowa Historical Soc - - Iowa. 

Litchfield County Historical and 

Antiquarian »oc . - - Litchfield, Con. 

Maine Historical Soc - - Brunswick. 

Maryland Historical Soc - - Baltimore. 

Maryland Institute - - - Baltimore. 

Massachusetts Historical Soc - Boston. 

Michigan Historical Soc - - Detroit. 

MinnesoU Historical Soc. - - St. Pauls. 

Mississippi Historical Soc. - Jackson. 

Moravian Historical Soc - - Nazaretb, Pen. 

New England Historic Genealo- 
gical Soc - - - - Boston. 

New England Methodist His- 
torical Soc ... - Boston. 

New Jersey Historical Soc - Newark. 

Newport Historical Soc - - Newport. 

New York Historical Soc - New York. 

Numismatic Soc. ... Philadelphia, 

Ohio Historical and Philosophi- 
cal Soc. .... Cincinnati. 

Old Colony Historical Soc - Taunton, Mass. 

Orleans County Soc - - Derby. 

Pennsylvania Historical Soc - Philadelphia. 

Pioneer Association - - - Cincinnati. 

Presbyterian Historical Soc. - Philadelphia. 

Prince Publication Soc - - Boston. 

Rhode Island Historical Soc. - Providence. 

Seventy-Six, Soc. of - - Philadelphia. 

South Carolina Historical Soc. - Charleston. 

Staten Island Historical Soc - Cosleton. 

Tennesse Historical Soc - - Nashville. 

Yermont Historical and Anti- 
quarian Soc. ... - Montpelier, Ver. 

Virginia Historical Soc - - Richmond. 

Wisconsin Historical Soc - - Madison. 

Wyoming Historical Soc - - Wilkesbarre. 

K. P. D. E. 

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[2^ S. XIL Aug. 17. '61. 

I have generally the firmest reliance upon the 
quotations and references in Mr. Blades's book 
upon Caxton. If I meet with any yariation, 
I feel confident that I must be wrong in my 
notion of the ori«^iDal ; but there is one authority 
cited on p. 65, in which, as at present informea, 
there appear to me to be several mistakes, not of 
spelling only, but of words. and even lines. It is 
a passage in Stow's Survey of LoncLniy relating to 
the important question, where our earliest printer 
carriea on his business? Mr. Blades places in 
his mar^n this reference: "il Survay cf London^ 
4to. 1598, p. 476/* I have before me an impres- 
sion by John Wolfe, " Printer to the honorable 
Citie of London," dated 1599 ; and I have always 
understood (perhaps incorrectly, for I have never 
had an opportunity of minutely collating them), 
that, with the exception of the date, it was pre- 
cisely the same, and from the same types, as the 
edition of 1598. Now, I find, that the quotation 
by Mr. Blades from the edition of 1598 is mate- 
rially different in my edition of 1599 : for in the 
latter the following valuable words, as given by 
Mr. Blades, are entirely wanting : — 

" William Caxton, cittizen of London mercer bronght 
it into England, and was the first that practised it in the 
sayde Abbey." 

Moreover, besides this grave omission in my 4to, 
1599, and besides variations of orthography, the 
sentence immediately preceding that above given 
runs thus : — 

*< And therein Islip Abbot of Westminster, JirU prac' 
tized, and erected the first Presse of booke Fnotiog that 
ever was in England, about the yeare of Christ 1471." 

Here, what I have italicised is not contained 
in Mr. Blades's quotation from the impression 
of 1598; and if the pagination of my volume of 
1599 be right (it is wrong in several places), it 
is 393, and not 476, as m Mr. Blades s margin. 
I dare say I am in error in looking upon the 
Survey of 1599 as, in fact, the same as the Survey 
of 1598 : if they are not, the change made in 
1599, with reference to Caxton*s place of business, 
is of interest ; and Stow himself must have caused 
the omission to be made in the interval between 
1598 and 1599. On Mr. Blades's next page (66) 
I perceive that his edition of 1598 does not con- 
tain the words " Elemosinary or" before "Al- 
mory,'* which are found in my copy of 1599. 

Living in the country, I have no means of col- 
lating these passages m any other editions than 
those of 1599, and 1603 (Mr. Thoms accurately 
reprinted the last in 1842) ; and in that of 1603, 
the words inserted by Mr. Blades — because, as I 
conclude, found in tue impression of 1598 — are 
duly contained. Did Stow erase them in 1599 ? 
And if 80, why did they re-appear in 1603 ? I fear 
that my edition of 1599, on which I have been ac- 
customed to rely, is in fault. J. Paykb (jollies. 


In a curious pamphlet in my possession, I find 
a derivation for this word which difiers from that 
of Lye, approved by Junius and Richardson. The 
pamphlet b entitled : — 

** An Essay fob the Ck>NVEBaioN of the Xjush ; 
Shewing that *ti8 their Daty and Interest to become 
Protestants. In a Letter to Themselves. 

" S. Basil, Epiat 80. • Let the Holy Scrj)turea be Arbi- 
tratort between 17* : and whotoevtr fum Optniom consonant 
to the Heavenly Orculet, let the Truth be adjudged on their 

•* Dublin, Printed by Joseph Ray. and are to be sold 
at his Shop in Skinner-Row. 1698. Price Six-Pence**— 
Pp. 46, 12mo. 

I must premise that this little tract, while it 
contains much that is but too true, yet, like most 
controversial writings, is thoroughly one-sided 
and uncandid. The passage referring to Rap^ 
purees is worth giving at length : — 

•* Do not you place your Piety in beinpf of a Party, aud 
make Unity and Communion with the Pope^ the Sum and 
Substance of Christian Religion^ and expect your Salva- 
tion from ineer CUimerical Notions, such as the Treasures 
of the Churchy the Indulgence of the Pone, the Absolution 
of the Priest, and the Purification* of Purgatory, with 
very little regard to Holiness, without which, no Man shall 
seethe Face o/GoD? 

" And hence it is, that the two crying Sins of the 
Nation, Theft and Perjury, which are rarely found 
amongst Protestants, are so common among you, that 
the one is become an Epithet, and the other proverbially 
scandalous. The Protestants know, they must make 
Restitution, if possible, or be damned; and therefore 
few of that Communion but notorious profligate Repro* 
bates, will either Forswear or Steal. But you are not 
under this Awe^ having too often some Sophistical Pre- 
tence or other to justile or excuse you ; and, at worst, 
fancying that you may be absolved at an easie rate, 
either by Confession and slight Pennance, or, if that 
fails, by a few turns in Purgatory. 

**.... But the Priest will say, He does warn yon of 
these Vices, and preach Restitution ; but Experience has 
convinced us, that whatever he says on the subject is 
very cold and ineffectual, and that he does countenance 
the contrary practice ; since all is discovered to him in 
Confession, and yet no Restitution is made but to special 
Friends, or such whom the Priest is afraid of: And since, 
without Restitution, he gives Absolution, and administers 
the Sacrament not only to Petty Thieves, but to Pro- 
claimed Tories and Rapparees, who were to Rob and 
Murther again the next day. 

** For Grod's sake. Gentlemen, do not suffer yourselves 
to be thus imposed upon: Pray look back a little, and 
enquire, Was it not the Priests that were the Original of 
Rapparees? Did not they enjovn every one upon pain 
of Excommunication to bring a ttapary, or Half Pike, in 
his hand to Mass? Did not they head the Rabble, and, 
in many places at noon-day with Bag-Pipes and other 
circumstances of Jollity and Insolence, plunder their 
Protestant Neighbours? " — Pp. 8—9. 

The Essay is addressed ** To my Country-Men, 
the Roman Catholicks of Ireland " ; and the au- 
thor, to make them swallow hb medicine, accom- 
panied as it is with a wholesale abuse of their 
religion, pays them, as a' people, the following 
compliments : — 

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" And surely those of the Protestant Religion will co- 
operate all they can to this Conversion, by ExborUtion 
and Example, by Good Offices, and Good Advice. And 
certainly tne Irish are worthy of their care, and are en- 
dued with much Excellent Qaalities as will deserve and 
recompense all the pains that shall be taken in that pioos 
work. For it cannot be denied bat that the Irish aboand 
in the Perfections of Body and Mind. If yoa survey 
their Persons, yoa will find their Complexions good, 
their Constitutions healthy, their Limbs nimble and ac- 
tive, their stature tall, and their Bodies strong and 
comely: And if yoa search their Minds, you wiU find 
them Religious, Constant, Patient, and Faithful; very 
Docible, and desirous of Instruction ; naturally inclined 
to Manners and Complement, Generous beyond example, 
and profusely Hospitable, even to a fault. And in short, 
if it were not for the bad Principles of their Religion, 
they would be very good Neighbours, good Subjects, and 
good Men. 

** Tis true, that the best Edge is soonest tumed,'and the 
sweetest Wine makes the sourest Vinegar ; and the best 
things when corrupted, degenerate into the other ex- 
tream : And 'tis as true, that these Vertuee of the Irish, 
• for want of Instruction and Cultivation, are become In- 
toUerable Vices : Thus their Religion is dwindled into 
Superstition and Bigotry, their Constancy turned to 
Obstinacv, their Patience to Stupidity, and even their 
Fidelity is become the Cause of the Perfidiousness and 
Ingratitude they are accused of. 

** And it is to set them right in these important mat- 
ters, that is the Charitable Design of these Papers ; which, 
if they take effect, will restore the Splendor of their 
Yertues, bring them from Darkness to Light, and from 
Ignorance and Misery, to Happiness and Understanding." 
— Pp. 41—42. 

Has this remarkable Essay been noticed any- 
where ? And is it known who wrote it ? 


American Officebs bbforb the Revolution. 
— The American Historical Magazine and Notes 
and Queries^ April, 1857, contains a list of many 
of the officers who served in America in the war 
with France, prior to the breaking out of the war 
of Independence. Such a list of colonial officers 
is, I believe, not ebewhere to be met with. 

K. P. D. E. 

Foreman, slano use op. — A funeral having 
occurred in the parish in the absence of the 
incumbent, his servant rode off to re<juest a 
neighbouring curate to perform the service, and 
alighting at the entrance, inquired if " the fore- 
man was at home, as he wished to speak to nim.** 
I am unacquainted with the use of this term in 
its ecclesiastical sense ; but though to me novel, 
it struck me as being a singularly expressive de- 
signation. I should be glad to know if this syno- 
nyme is a popular vidgarism of recent coinage, or 
confined to the clods of Essex. My brethren who 
belong to this " order ** will take no offence at the 
application to them of a title which denotes their 
residence as well as their responsibility, and the 
eminent value of their services* F. Fhillott. 

Palaver. — This word, paro/e a.nd parable, all 
seem to have as their common origm TopafioK-fi, 
From the Mid. Lat. oara&oZa = verbum, sermo, 
came first paraola, and then the Ital. parola and 
the Yt. parole. The corresponding Span./)aZairtf, 
and Port, palavra (whence palaver), seeui to have 
been derived from a transposed form of parabola, 
viz. palabora, in which tne r and the / changed 
places. From palabora to palabra and palavra the 
transition was easy. 

M. du Chaillu uses the word palaver very fre- 
quently, and it would seem that it (or at any rate 
Uie same word under another form) is also com- 
monly used among the natives of the part of 
Africa explored by this gentleman. If this U so, 
they borrowed the term, I presume, from the 
Portuguese, who were the first to discover and 
explore this part of Africa. When did we first 
use the word? and did we import it from our 
West- African colonies ? 

But how did ropo^ox^, which originally meant 
a comparison, an illustration, and afterwards a 
parable, come (in its derivative, parabola) to 
mean a word f It is not easy to give a satisfac* 
tory answer ; but we may compare xAyoi, a voora, 
and also an apologue or fabled "^iros, too, means 
a loord, and also a saying, a proverb, *P^m«i a^ain, 
sometimes means a sentence. Compare also verbum^ 
the Fr. mot and parole, which sometimes mean a 
notable saying. The part for the whole, and the 
whole for the part. F. Chance. 

Socrates. — In turning over the admirable 
notice of Socrates in the Travels of Anacharsis, 
ch. Ixvii., I was much struck with two or three 
passages, which appeared to me worth extraction 
from a work at present not much read. 

One of his scholars named ^schines, after having 
heard him discourse, exclaimed "Socrates! I am 
poor, but I give myself to you without reserve." 
"You know not," answered Socrates, "what a 
noble present you have made me." 

Attacking the <rvfi<t>4poy, " the expedient," so 
much patronised by many of his countrymen, and, 
indeed, in all ages, Socrates exclaimed, "De- 
tested be the memory of him who first dared to 
make a distinction between what is just and what 
is useful.** 

On being attacked with the public ridicule of 
Aristophanes, "It is my duty," said he, "to cor- 
rect my faults, if the sarcasms of these writers 
be well-founded, and to despise them if they are 

One of his friends entreated him to prepare his 
defence against the charges which finally effected 

• LiddeU and Scott tell us that Ai^yo*, in AristoUe/s 
time, answered to the »apo^o^1i of Scripture. Parole in 
French resembles X6yot, in meaning a spoken word, in op- 
position to mot (*»of, A^M«). a mere, dead ward, the name 
for a thing. 

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his death: *«ThaC replied Socrates, **ha8 been 
my employment from tne hour of my birth. Let 
my whole life undergo an examination, and that 
shall be my defence/* Fkamcu Teskch. 

Ulip, near Oxford. 

NAPOI.B0N AT Elba. — If the following, which 
I have in a French MS. of the period, is not in 
print, it should, I think, be preserved. It is at 
once clever, pointed, and severe : — 

**Eeho de Napol^n dcnu Vltle eTElbe. 

■*Je sais seal en ces lieax et personne m*^oate. — 

Morblea! qa*eatend8-je? quel £tre est svec moi? — 

Ah ! J'entends. C'est TEcho qui redit ma demande. — 

Demande ! 
Dis moi si toajonn l*onde r&istera? — Rasters I 
Si Yienne et Petersburgh m*ont qaitt^ponrtoigoars? 

— Tonjoars! 
AprhB tant de baats faits ik qaoi dois-je pretendre ?— 

Bendre ce qaej'ai acquis pardes combats inouis? — 

Qui I 
£t que deviendra mon penple malhearenx ?~Heureax ! 
Que devieodrai-je, moi? moi-m€me qai me croitim- 

mortel ?— MorteU 
Cependant I'Univers a c^l^br^ roon nom ? — Non I 
Haislai seul a partout imprim^ la terrenr? — Errenr! 
Cruel Echd — laiase moi ! Je m'enrage et je meurs ! — 


Jas. Jmo. Scott. 

QuBBN Philipfa*8 Pobtbait. — Walter de 
Stapeldon, Bishop of Exeter, was employed by 
Edward 11. to obtain a correct report of the 
personal appearance and character of the young 
daughter of the Count of Hainault, with a view 
to a matrimonial alliance with Edward the heir 
apparent. The following is taken from the 
Bi^op*s register (fol. 142), and is copied into 
Oliver's Bishops of Exeter^ p. 89. A painter 
might almost produce therefrom a tolerable like- 
ness of the young lady without any further aid : 

''Anno Domini woocF^ dedmo nono, et conaecrationis 
Domini Walteri Exoniensis Episcopi anno nndeclmo. 

" Inspeoeio et descriptio filie Comitis Hanonie que voca- 
tor Pbilippa, et fbit Regina Anglie nupU Edwardo Tertio 
post Conquestum. 

"La damoisele que nous veymes si ad les chevanx assez 
beans entre bloy et bran ; la teste nette ; le fVont long et 
lee, et se boate anqaes avant; le visage contre les deus 
oils plus estreit, et le visage contreval plus grelle et pins 
esclendre uncore que nest le front; les oils brans, et 
aaq*e8 noirs, et auq^es profond ; le nees assez uni et owel 
sauve qae a la poynte si est groesett et aoq'es platt, mes 
nient camas; lea narilles aoq^es larges; la bouche lar- 
gette ; les leveres et nomiement celle desouz grossett ; les 
dents que sunt cbaynz et recms assez blanks; et les 
antres ne sunt pas si blanks ; les dentz desonz sunt assis 
nnpoi ddiors ceox desus, roais ceo ne apert fors que mou 
poi{ les orailles et le menton assez beaax; le col, les 
espaules, et tot le corps et membres contreval assez de 
bone taille et les memores bien foumis sanz mabavn et 
rien ne cloce que horn puisse apercevoir ; et si est brune 
de qui reyn par tut et molt resemble au pere, et en totes 
autres choses assez pleisante si come il nous semble. Et 

sera la damoisele del age de IX. anz ik la feste de la Na- 
tivity Seint Johan prochein avenir si come la mere dit. 
Ne trop grande, ne trop petite quant a tol age, et si est 
de bean port et bien aprise come a son estat, et bien proise 
et bien ame de pere et de mere et de tote la meig^ce, si 
avant come nous le poyons ver enquere et savoir." 

John Williams. 
Anio*s Court 

WuTOHAM Familt. — Last year there were 
several Notes contributed on the subject of the 
Felbrigg Brass, one of them by myself. I now 
send a copy of the inscription on the brass of a 
member of the Windham family, which is in the 
same church as the Felbriprg Brass ; and is further 
interesting, as showing the connection between 
the Somersetshire and Norfolk Windhams : — 

<* Here lieth the body of Thomas Windham, Esq. 
(third sone of S^ Edmond Windham, Knight, deceased), 
who lived a single life, & died the 20 dav of December, in 
y* years of Our Lord 1599, & of his age the : to whose 
worthy memorie S' John Windham of Orchard, in y" 
County of Som'set, Knight, being his Cosin & Heire, 
hath sett this marble. 

''Livest thou, Thomas? Teas: Where? W^ God on 

Art thou not dead ? Yeas. And here I lye. 

I, that with men on earth did live to die, 

Died for to live with God etemalUe." 

On the brass, Mr. Windham is represented in 
armour, but with the head uncovered. There are 
several other very interesting? brasses in Felbrigg 
church, all more or less dama^d by neglect, or 
something worse ; and if somethmg be not speedily 
done for their preservation, I fear before many 
years they will exist only in remembrance. 

J. A. Pn. 

AiroiALS AND B. y. M. — Can any zoologist 
furnish a list (in the different languages of the 
world) of the animals named in honour of the 
Blessed Virgin Mary P W. J. B. 

John Bbinslbt, of Christ's College, Cambridge) 
B.A. 1584, M.A. 1588, was a minister of the 
Word, and had the care of the public school at 
Ashby-de-la-Zouch, in Leicestershire. He mar- 
ried a sister of Dr. Joseph Hall, Bishop of Nor- 
wich, and is author of Ludm Literaritu (161*2) 
and other works. 

His son of the same name, born in Leicester^ 
shire 1600, was of Emmanuel College, B.A. 1619, 
M.A. 1623. He was in 1662 ejected from Great 
Yarmouth, and died 22 January, 1664-^. He 
also was an author. 

In the Bodleian Catalogue the works of father 
and son appear under the same article. 

Watt has two John Brinsleys, the first being 
the Nonconformist divine, bom 1600, to whom he 
absurdly attributes works published 1612, 1614, 
1615, and 1617. The second he calls son of the 

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former. "Cato" iB bj Watt transformed into 
" Orto,*' and for " Sententis Puerlles " we haye 
" Mitentiae Pueriles." 

Any information about John Brmsley, the 
schoolmaster of Ashby- de-la- Zouch, will be ac- 
ceptable, and we are especially desirous of ascer- 
taining when he died. 

C. H. & Thompsoiv Coopeb. 


Bbistol Dbamas. — Can any of your readers 
who may know something of Uie literary history 
of Bristol, give any information regarding the 
authorship of two Bristol dramas having the 
following titles P I. The Siege of Mansoulj a 
Drama. By a Lady. The diction of which con< 
sists altogether in an accommodation of words, 
from Shakspeare and other Poets. Printed by W. 
Bulgin, Bristol, 8vo, 1801. This play seems to 
have been published after the author's dentli. 
The editor's preface mentions that the drama had 
been seen and approved by the Rev. Henry 
Sulger, who appears also to have been dead, at 
the date of publication. II. Lundy^ an Opera. 
The music for this piece was composed by Mr. 
Cornelius Bryan, Organist, St. Mary, Redcliif, 
who was accidentally killed at the time the opera 
was in rehearsal at the Bristol theatre, 1 8 March, 
1840. Who was author of the libretto of Lundy f 
Is. any information regarding the authorship to 
be obtained from the CoUecHons relating to 
the Bristol Stage, which were left to the City 
Library, Bristol, by Mr. Richard Smith, surgeon, 
Bristol, who died in January, 1843 ? R. I. 

Mb. Dtke of Coogbshall akd St. Albabs. — 
Mr. Dyke first preacher at Coggeshall and after- 
wards at S. Alban's, was a noted Puritan, and 
was, in or about 1589, deprived by Bishop Aylmer 
for nonconformity. He was the father of Daniel 
and Jeremy Dyke, both famous divines. Neal 
supposes him to have been identical with Daniel 
Dyke and Brook, although he alludes to Daniel 
Dyke's father, erroneously attributes to the son 
the incidents in the father's life. Daniel Dyke 
was B.A. at S. John's College Cambridge, 1595- 
6; commenced M.A. at Sidney College 1599; 
became a Fellow of that house, and in 1606 pro- 
ceeded B.D. We are desirous of ascertaining 
the Christian name of the Mr. Dyke, preacher at 
Coggesball and S. Alban's, and father of Daniel 
and Jeremy Dyke. C. H. & Thompson Coopbb. 


Fablet Hobsb Monument. — Perhaps soqoe of 
your correspondenta can assist in fixing the date 
of the event recorded in the following inscription, 
which is attached to a well-known land-mark in 
the county of Hants, called the Farley Horse 
Monument. Several attempts have been made of 
late years to do so, but hitherto without success ; 
and the descendants of the Sir Paulett St. John 

mentioned in the inscription, are unable to give 
any information on the subject. Sir Paulett St. 
John was member for the county of Hants in 
1734, was created a baronet in 1772, and died in 

Intcription on the Farley Hone Monument, near IFm- 


** Underneath this Building, 

Lies buried a Horse, 

The property of 

S' Paulett S« John, Bart., 

Who in a Fox Chase 

Leaped into a Chalk Pitt 

Twenty-five feet deep. 

With the owner on his back 

Without hurting either 

The Horse or his Rider. 

The same year he won the 

Hunter's Plate on Worthy Down, 

Rode by his owner, 

Aod was entered by the name of 

Beware Chalk Pitt." 

Fbnne and Ward Families. — Some mem- 
bers of n Norfolk family called Fenne eimgrated 
to Virginia in "the old colonial time.** .They or 
their descendants were royalists, and lost much 
of their property during the war of independence. 
Three sisters returned from America; two died 
unmarried at Yarmouth ; the third, Ann (P), mar- 
ried Robert (?) Ward. The Wards also were a 
Norfolk family who had settled in Vircinia, but 
came back during the war. Whether the above- 
mentioned marriage was contracted in England or 
America is not at present known : its issue was 
two children — Robert, who died *. p., and Anne, 
who married Thomas Wetherell, of Southwold in 
Suffolk, and had two children who attained matu- 
rity, Robert and Anne, both of whom have left 
many descendants. 

Information as to any of the above-mentioned 
persons or their families will be of interest to me. 

Edwabd Peacock. 
Bottesford Manor, Brigg. 


— One of the principal Barons of the Conqueror 
was Goisfridus de Beche — Godfrey de Beke — 
who held large possessions in Hertfordshire at 
the time of the Norman Survey, and was also 
sheriff of that county. Most strangely, no traces 
of him have been met with airy where but in 
Domesday Book: so, at least, I remember to 
have seen it, several years ago, asserted and com* 
men ted on in some printed book to which I have 
now lost the reference. I fancied it was in one 
of the Reports of the Lords* Committees touching 
the Dignity of a Peer of the Realm; but I have 
not been able to find it there. Could any of yQur 
readers furnish me with a reference ? 

I would attempt to account for the disappear- 
ance of Godfrey de Beke's name from our records 
subsequent to bomesday Book, by supposing him 

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to have taken the cross in the year 1096, and to 
have died during the first Crusade. I should^ be 
glad if light could be thrown on the subject 
through "N. & Q." Chaelks Bbkb. 


John Hammoud, M.D., sometime Fellow of 
Trinity College, Cambridge, was physician to 
James I. and Henrpr Prince of Wales. Inde- 
pendently of his eminence in his profession, he 
deserves remembrance as father or that learned 
theologian, Henry Hammond, D.D. We have 
not met with any mention of Dr. John Ham- 
mond after 1617. We hope through the medium 
of your journal to ascertain the date of his death. 
C. H. & Thompson Coopek. 


WiLUAM Hampton, of Trinity College, Cam- 
bridge, B.A. 1572, M.A. 1576, is author of Za- 
chrymcB EcclesicB^ a funeral sermon, on 2 Chron. 
XXXV. 24, 25 ... . 4to. 1601. This is not men- 
tioned by Watt, and our only knowledge of the 
book is derived from Crowe's Catalogue of Ser^ 
mons. Can any of your correspondents furnish 
us with information respecting William Hamp- 
ton P We think it probable that he was a younger 
brother of Christopher Hampton, Archbishop of 
Armagh, who was Fellow of Trinity College, 6.A. 
1571, M.A. 1575, B.D. 1582, D.D. 1598. 

C. H. & Thompson Cooper. 


HoNOBABT Initial Letters. — Besides the 
recognised K.G.'s, K.C.B/s, D.D.'s, H.E.I.C.S.'s, 
F.S.A/s, R.A/6, &c., which most of us know, or 
may easily get to know, the meaning of, there are 
a vast number of other such affixes which no one 
seems able to explain. Scientific men especially 
seem to revel in capital letters. Is there any 
limit as to the right of adopting them, or any dic- 
tionary where one may find what they mean ? I 
am not aware that any corresponding subscriber to 
" N. & Q." is as vet a C.S.N .Q., but I suppose we 
shall come to it before long. P. F. 

Countess of Huntingdon — Who was the au- 
thor of the Life and Times of the Countess of Hunt' 
ingdon f With reference to the authorship of the 
hymn " Come, thou fount of every blessing,** Mb. 
Daniel Sedgwick (2°* S. x. 516) speaks of the 
author of Lady Huntingdon's Life as if he was 
well known to him. The biographical work in 
question is stated to be ^'by a member of the 
noble houses of Huntingdon and Ferrers.** I also 
belong to the latter family, and although ac- 
quainted with every member of it, have never 
heard the name of the author, though I believe it 
to be by one of Lady Huntingdon's ministers, 
who, the ^enedogical notes of the work prove, 
was very imperfectly acquainted with that part 
of his subject. E. F. Shiblet. 

Lower EatiDgton Park, Stratford-on-Avon. 

Fabodibs on Gbat*8 " Elegt.** — Who was the 
individual calling himself " An Oxonian,** who in 
1776 reprinted, with perhaps a score of slight 
verbal alterations (c. g» " bell ** for " curfew,** 
"jovial** for "festive,** &c.), Duncombe's excel- 
lent parody (of which the first edition appeared 
in 1753, and the second in 1765), and had the 
presumption, too, to price it at one shilling, 
whereas the original cost but sixpence ? It ap- 
pears to have been " printed for the author and 
sold by J. Wheble, 22, Fleet Street.** Delta. 

Fbideaitx Quebies. — Where can I obtain the 
following information, as Burke in his Baronetage 
does not give it. " Frideaux, Baronet.*' Under this 
head, the second son of the 6th baronet is stated 
to have left three children — John Wilmot, after- 
wards 7th baronet; Edward Bayntree Edmund, 
and Elizabeth. I wish to ascertain if either of 
these married ; if so, to whom P and did they leave 
any issue ? What became of the 6th baronet*s 
third son Feter? Did he marry and leave any 
issue P 

Who were the three wives in the order of mar- 
riage of the 7 th baronet, one only being mentioned 
(Priddle) P Of what county, and what are the 
Friddle arms ? 

What are the armorial bearings of the present 
baronet*s first wife, Fitz-Thomas P and as he has 
no surviving children, on whom will the title de- 
scend P A Devonian. 

Fbivatb Feinting Fbesses. — Can any of your 
correspondents state where a list of such presses, 
with the works printed at them, can be found P 
I remember seeing, many years ago, some books, 
written by a John Bruce, containing much curi- 
ous research respecting the Frotestant clergy of 
France, and their literary and religious history. 
I understand that* Mr. Bruce was a minister 
among a body of seceders in Scotland ; and that 
he kept in his study a press, at which he printed 
his own works, which are consequently very 
scarce. There was a Mr. Davy too, a clergyman 
of the Church of England, who printed, about the 
beginning of this century, a System of Divinity, in 
26 vols. 8vo. I once saw, at Treuttel & Wurtz*s, 
in London, a copy which was sold, I think for 
51 5s. J. Mr. 

N. A. F. FuAux. — I am anxious to ascertain 
whether there is an English translation of the 
following work. If so, by whom published ; — 
VAnatomie duPapisme, et la Reforms E'vangUique 
U Angers ; Lettres Angevines, par N. A. F.Fuaux, 
Ministre du Saint E'vangile. JParis, 1846. 

Clebicus (D.) 

" Sebvo peb beqnabe.** — Can any reader of 
" N. & Q.** tell me who adopted the motto : *' Servo 
per regnare ** f It is on the portrait of a strong- 
featured, and . obviously strong-minded woman, 
whose identity I am anxious to establish. 

W. J. T. 

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Family op Steele op Cheshibe. — Will any 
of your correspondents be bo good as to inforfn 
me, I. Whether anything is known of the ances- 
tors of Thomas Steele of Weston, the grand- 
father of Lord Chancellor Steele, whose pedigree 
is given in Ormerod's Cheshire, and recorded in 
the Heralds* College ?^ * 

2. Whether the origin of this family can be 
traced to a family named Style or Stiell, whoso 
arms are the same as, or very similar to, those 
borne by the Steeles of Chester aqd their de- 
scendants, viz., argent^ a bend counter, compon^e 
ermine and sable ; on a chief azure, three billets 
or? I have not been able to ascertain the crest of 
Style or Stiell. W. E. Steele, M.D. 


Tmnhtson's "Pbihcbss." — Has any one pointed 
out, or has Mr. Tennyson acknowledged the co- 
incidence of the plot of bis poem, 7%c Princess^ 
with a passage in the concluding chapter of 
Rasselas f 

«* The Princess thought, that of all snblanary things, 
knowledge was the best. She desired first to learn all 
sciences, and then purposed to found a college of learned 
-women* in which she would preside." -— JUutelas^ chap, 

Wm. Simpson. 


The Ybab 1588. — Contemporary chroniclers 
and others state, that the year 1588 was one of 
expectation as well as admiration ; and that there 
were numerous " prophecies** current at the time 
relating to the Spanisa invasion, &c. Vide Nares's 
Life of Burghley^ iii. 327, where, in a foot-note, 
he refers in particular "to the old prophecy of the 
approaching year 1588.** Examples of, or a refer- 
rence to, one or more of them will greatly oblige 


Dudley Bbadstrebt. — I have a petition ad- 
dressed to the king by Dudley Bradstreet, pray- 
ing for some remuneration for his services as a 
spy during the Rebellion of 1745. It is a curious 
and circumstantial document, and is endorsed 
" Capt Bradstreet's Pel".** For a spy he seems 
to have been treated with much respect, and had 
the honour of kissing the hand of his Royal High- 
ness the Duke of Cumberland at Lichfield. Is 
anything known of him in connection with the Re- 
bellion ? F. SoMiiBB Mbbbtwbatheb. 

[Our correspondent must endeavour to get a sight of 
the following curious work: The Life and Uncommum 
Adventures of Capt Dudley Braditreetf being the mott 
Genuine and ExtraortUnarVt perhaps, ever jpublithed, 8vo. 
Dublin, 1755. It contains a mil account of his amours ; em- 
ployment in the Secret Service j His Majesty's present to 
him with correspondence; the reward be obtained for 
his services; bis passing for a magician in Covent Gar- 
den, where many of the nobility of both sexes, and even 

famed for wisdom, resorted to him, uj»n his promising to 
renew their age, making them thirty or forty years 
younger than they were, and informing others when 
their husbands or wives should die ; also his being made 
governor and judge of the finest seraglio in England, and 
hia promised feast to the city of London — facta well 
known to all the courts of Europe. A copy of this amus- 
ing work is in the British Museum.] 

D. E. Bakeb. — Can any correspondent furnish 
some particulars of the editor of the popular 
Biographia Dramatica f S. Reynolds. 

[David Ersldne Baker was the eldest son of Henry 
Baker, by a daughter of Daniel Defoe. The means of 
becoming opulent were put in his power; but his in- 
fatnated attachment to the drama indaced him to throw 
aside every prospect of worldly advantage. He and his 
wife, a Miss Clendon, joined a strolling company of come- 
dians, and acted for many years. He was the author of 
The Companion to the Playhouse, 2 vols. 12mo. 1764. and 
afterwards enlarged by Isaac Reed and Stephen Jones. 
He wrote one dramatic piece, acted in Edinburgh, called 
The Muse of Ossian, Edinb. 17()3, 12mo. A Prologue 
spoken for the benefit of the Canongate Poor-house, 
Edinburgh, April 17, 1764, is ascribed to him. He died 
in a state of indigence in that city about the year 1780. 
There is a brief Memoir of him in Harding's Biographical 
Mirror, voL iii. 4to. with a portrait annexed, taken from 
an original picture. Mrs. Baker was afterwards engnged. 
at the Edinburgh theatre. She acted the part of Zaphira 
in Barbarossa, Aug. 9, 1766. Vide Diggea' Letters to 
Mrs. Ward, p. 110.] 

EucHABiSTic WiNB. — Will any of your subscri- 
bers be good enough to answer the following 
queries ? What wine do the Romanists use in the 
mass, and what is the historical origin of the use of 
Tent wine in our own church, and in what liturgical 
books any information on the subject can be 
found ? A KuBAL Dean. 

[We are informed that the wine used in the Roman 
Church is the Lacryma Christ!, of a red colour and ex- 
quisite flavour. According to Dr. Rock*8 citations ( The 
Church of our Fathers, i.ll6I) the wine was to be the genuine 
juice of the grape; not' artificial, or a decoction from some 
other fruit f what we call a " made wine *'). ** Materia 
caticis .est vinum de vite, id est, non vinum artificiale sen 
de alio fructu compreasum.'* It might be white or red, 
full-bodied or light, but not sour or even acid. Red was 
preferable, *' propter ezpressionem et similitudinem san- 
guinis." A small quantity of water was mingled with the 
wine, " aqua modica vino admisceatur." On this subject 
the learned Dr. Thomas Deacon remarks ( View of Ckrie* 
tianity, ed. 1748, p. 816), ** But though no wine of diiferent 
matter, and therefore none but the fruit of the vine can 
be thought fit to be used for this sacrament, as we are 
taught by the tradition and practice of the Cntholick 
Church ; yet any fruit of the vine, though of different 
qualities, whether French or Spanish, Port or Tent, Ita- 
lian or Greek, may be used upon that occasion."] 


(2"* S. xi. 424 ; xii. 12, 49, 92.) 

Your readers will rejoice to learn that by the 
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protection is thrown round statues, monuments, 
and other memorials of the dead, which it is to be 
hoped will put a stop to any further mutilation of 
That Act, by section 39, provides that — 
<* Whosoever shall unlawrally and malicioasly destroy 
or damage any book, manuscript, picture, print, statue, 
host, or vase, or any other article or thing kept for the 
purposes of art, science, or literature, or as an object of 
curiosity, in any museum, gallery, cabinet, library, or 
other repository, which museum, sallery, cabinet, library, 
or other repository is either at all times or from time to 
time open for the admission of the public or of any con- 
siderable number of persons to view the same, either by 
the permission of the proprietor thereof or by the pay- 
ment of money before entering the same, or any picAtre, 
gtatue, moHumemi, or othtr memorial of the dead, painted 
glass, or other ornament or work of art, in any church, 
chapd, meeting hou$e, or other piace of divine worehip, or in 
any building belonging to the Queen, or to any county, 
riding, division, city, borough, poor law union, parish, or 
place, or to any university, or college or hall of any uni* 
versity, or to any inn of court, or in any street, square, 
chMrchyard, burial ground, public garden or ground, or 
any statue or monument exposed to public view, or any 
ornament, railing, or fence surronndmg such statue or 
monument, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being 
convicted thereof shall be liable to be imprisoned for any 
term not exceeding six months, with or without hard 
labour, and, if a male under the age of sixteen years, 
with or without whipping ; provided that nothing herein 
contained shall be deemed to affect the right of any 
person to recover, by action at law, damages for the 
injury so committed." 

This clause is framed from 8 & 9 Vict. c. 44, 
and 17 & 18 Vict. c. 33, with the addition of words 
which were introduced to include all monuments 
and other memorials of the dead. 

With regard to the word " unlawfully** in this 
clause, it is well to observe that no one, whoever 
he may be, can lawfully alter or deface any monu- 
ment which has been lawfully erected. Lord 
Coke (3 lust. 202.), speaking of " tombs, sepul- 
chres, or monuments in a church, chancel, or 
churchyard,** says, in general terms, and without 
any limitation whatever, that '^the defacing of 
them is punishable by the common law,** as ap- 
pears by Lady Wyche*s case, 9 Edw. IV. 14 a : 
and he adds, '^ and so it was agreed by the whole 
Court'* in Corven's case, 12 Co. Kep. 104. It is 
clear then, that any person who defaces or de- 
stroys a monument is guilty of an unlawful act, 
and will have done that^act " unlawfully *' within 
the meaning of this clause. 

Then as to the word "maliciously,** the 58th 
section of the Act provides that that word shall 
apply to every offence, whether it be committed 
from malice conceived against the owner of the 
property or otherwise. Now malice, in its legal 
sense, denotes any wrongful act done intentionally 
without just cause or excuse ; and in this respect 
differs from its ordinary acceptation. Any wilful 
destruction or defacing of a monument, therefore, 
seems plainly to come within this clause ; unless, 

indeed, some just cause or excuse can be assigned 
for it. 

The person, who erects a monument, and after 
Ms death the heir male, whether lineal or col- 
lateral, of the person to whom the monument was 
erected, may maintain an action against any per- 
son who injures it; but it is an entire mistake to 
suppose that he can lawfully alter or deface it, 
either with or without the consent of the incum- 
bent. Lord Coke*8 authority is clear that he 
cannot do so. 

Even if it were possible to conceive that any 
such alteration could lawfully be made, it would 
be the height of folly to make it. Inscriptions on 
monuments are admitted in evidence on the 
ground that they are the declarations of persons 
who had personal knowledge of the facts stated 
in them, and had no interest to misrepresent 
them. But it is obvious that any alteration made 
in after times, by persons who had no such per- 
sonal knowledge, at once deprives them of the 
only ground on which they are admissible in 
evidence. It b perfectly clear that such altered 
inscriptions would not be admitted in evidence to 
prove anything represented by such alterations. 

Innocent parties would, doubtless, be permitted 
to prove what the original inscription was ; but if 
there were a claim made by the party who made 
the alteration, or any of his descendants, it is easy 
to see that that claim might be defeated by the al- 
teration, even if the prior state of the inscription 
were allowed to be proved : for there is nothing 
that so strongly and so justly prejudices a case in 
the minds of a jury, as any tampering with mat- 
ters of evidence. It is easy, too, to foresee that 
cases may occur where the making of the altera- 
tion may be proved, and there may be no evidence 
by which the original inscription can be proved. 
Indeed it is easy to conceive that a large estate, 
and even a peerage, may be lost by the person 
really entitled to it in consequence of the altera- 
tion of such an inscription. 

It is so important that the recent extension of 
the law should be as widely spread as may be, 
and that the other points I have adverted to should 
be fully known, that I have ventured to step out 
of the usual limits of **N. & Q.** in this Note. 

I quite agree with those who desire to have 
some copies of existing monumental inscriptions 
preserved. I am confident n^any instances exist 
where they are the only evidence of the burials of 
persons, and they frequently contain in each of 
them much more evidence of pedigree than regis- 
ters; as they often give several descents in a 
family, and mention the places where the persons 
named in them lived : so that such inscriptions 
are important as well where registers exist as 
where they are lost. It is clear that no copies of 
existing inscriptions could be now made so as to 
be admissible m evidence, unless im Act of Par? 

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i lament were passed to make copies taken in the 
manner directed by its evidence. But with re- 
spect to future inscriptions, I think I can suggest 
a plan that might be effectual. As no monument 
can be erected ;irithout the permission of the or- 
dinary or incumbent, let each person who grants 
such* permission make it a condition that the party 
erecting the monument shall deliver two copies 
on parchment of the inscription, signed by him ; 
and stating his place of abode, and relationship to 
the deceased. Let one of these copies be filed, 
and k^pt in the chest with the regbters ; and the 
other be sent to the registry of the diocese, with 
the copies of the registers. Or if it bo thought 
better, let a parchment book be kept by the cler- 
gyman; and let the party, erecting a monument, 
be required to cause a copy of the inscription to 
be entered in it, and signed as above-mentioned, 
before the monument is permitted to be erected. 
Such copies so signed would, I think, be admitted in 
evidence as declarations by members of the family, 
on the same principle as entries by members of a 
family in Bibles and other books. C. S. Greaves. 

I have observed with considerable and increas- 
ing interest the several communications of your 
correspondents upon this subject^ and I must say 
it is a subject which cannot fail to draw the atten- 
tion of many an earnest well-wisher. 

It so happens that I have for several years — 
although not so much lately, from pressure of 
professional claims upon my time — devoted much 
of my leisure to copying the inscriptions in my 
own town, and in most of the surrounding villages, 
although I am sorry to say some parishes are still 
incomplete. They have been transcribed with 
cverj^ regard to accuracy; and I can only say 
that it would afford me pleasure if they can be of 
service in any plan which may be brought about 
for preserving the memorials of the dead. I can 
most heartily confirm Ms. Woodward's account 
of the manner (careless as it is) in which any 
small brass memorial is treated ; some I find are 
removed altogether, some but partially, and others 
without leaving any indication as to who the re- 
spected tenant of the tomb below can be, except 
n leg or an arm, or part of a sword, or a helmet, 
for the iron tip or plated heel of the uncouth 
labourer kicks at as he passes over it. 

I can merely say I shall be very glad to help, or 

rather second, any practicable plan which can be 

devised for preserving these perishing memorials. 

John Nubsb Chadwick. 

King's Lynn. 

(2»* S. xi. 510.) 
I can only hope to answer Meletes by placing 
more facta before him. I think that I may say 

that among the earliest authentic bearings of the 
Toenis, the eagle finds a place. HarL MS. 6589, 
p. 34, it says — "The coppy of a very antient 
Kolle made, as may bee supposed, in the tyme of 
H. 3'V"Le County de Toeny^Gulez un Egle 

I'his bearing was a favourite one of the house 
(see 2'** S. xi. 413), and especially of the Lindsays, 
who most certainly are Thorns, but why they 
called themselves Limes or Lindens is more than 
I can tell. In Eyton's History of Shropshire we 
have a Thorn (another brother or cousin of Ralph 
the Standard-bearer I expect) in Gerard de 
Tomai, who held (see Domesday) and gave his 
village of Bechton in Cheshire to Shrewsbury 
Abbey; from his line descended the Shropshire 
Thorns, who all bore lions (see 2°'* S- xi. 413). 
They remained in Shrewsbury down to the. time of 
Charles I., when Thomas Thornes of Shelvock was 
find 720/. by the Cromwellians for his loyalty. 

Qerard was a favourite name with the Lindsays 
and Thorns. In Eyton, vol. ix. p. 67, we have 
" Ralph de Lindsey," and " Ralph, son of Theold 
de Time,** as witnesses to a deed of Hugh de 
Dover. Th^odelin de Tanie was a most honour- 
able knight (see Ord. Vit. vol. i. p. 414, Bohn*s 
edition). Gerard de Lindsey of Crawfurd in 1249, 
and Gerard de Spineto, of Sampford-Spiney (see 
Testa de Nevil), who is my ancestor^ are instances 
of its preservation in each family ! 

De Spineto is the Latin of De Thorny, by which 
we trace the Toenys, whether descended from 
the Standard-bearer or from Robert de Todeni, 
of Bel voir, his brother. "VVe have the Baron 
Elias Daubeny, noticed in Lansd. MS. 267-8, as 
Elias Tony, his wife being Isolda ; and in Hardy's 
Rot, Chart, p. 221, we find Odinel de Albini, the 
son of Wm. de A., and grandson of Odinel do 
UmfraviUe, called by his tribe name De Spineto, 
about A.D. 1207. 

Again, in Cole's MS. we have Berenger de 
Todeni, the son of Robert of Belvoir, called Thony, 
Thoenio, and Thoenlio, and his nephew Wm. is 
called in Hunter's Roitdi, ^c, p. 112, Wm. Torn, 
In the same he is also called Wm. de Albin, be- 
cause it was he who changed his name in honour 
of the martyr St. Alban. Thus, I trust, I have 
identified the common origin of Lindsay, Thorn, 
and Daubeney. 

To say why or how the name became Lindsay 

is most difficult ; but Lord L tells, at p. 5, vol. 

i. of the Lives, that the house of de Toustain 
Frontebose, the French Lindsays, gave for their 
cri'de'guerre " Vive le sang des Rois Normands, 
the tradition of descent from the race of RoUo 
being fully understood and appreciated. I how- 
ever abstain from going over the evidence further, 
as it is fully laid down in the Appendix to vol. i. 

To refer afain to the lions, I think this bearing 
may have originated from the descent of the 

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Toenys from the blood royal of Normandy and 
Spain (2"* S. xi. 413), or perhaps the lionccls 
were first used to indicate the further descent 
from English royalty, when Roger de Toni or De 
Thoen matched with Constance Beaumont, the 
grand-daughter of Henry I. Certainly the arms 
of Robert Thorn of St. Albans, their lineal de- 
scendant (see Harl. MS., several places, and Ry- 
mer's Fcedera)^ are not a bad copy of the royal 
bearing) ; they are azure, a fess between three 
lions passant guardant or ; and we find the lions 
in this attitude round the seal as figured by Mr. 
Nichols in the OenCs Magazine^ whose courtesy 
I take this opportunity of noting with my best 
thanks. These arms were quartered by Robert 
Thorn of Bristol (grandson of Robert of St. A.), 
the Arctic navigator. See his arms (2"* S. xi. 
413), where we find the lozenges gules, thus con- 
necting the Thorns with the Daubenys. These 
will be found on the pictures of Robert and Nicho- 
las Thorn, founders of the Bristol Grammar 
School, with a swan*s head and neck with a bunch 
of roses in the bill for a crest ; thus showing the 
descent from Devon (the lions) ; the relationship 
to Daubeny (the lozenges) ; and the descent from 
the Standard-bearer, or Knight of the Swan ! 

These arms were con/irmcrf by Cooke Clarenceux, 

In Coates' History o/JReadingy we have an ac- 
count of windows placed in Here Court, Pang- 
bourne, by John Thorn, Abbot of Reading, who 
died there 1619 : he was the brother of Robert 
of Bristol. We have in them, as seen and de- 
scribed by Ashmole, the swan, the three lionSy the 
eagle (twice figured), the Phoenix, and the unicorn. 
These last two being, however, a reference to 
Philip deThaun's " Bestiarius." He who flourished 
in the reign of Henry I. was of the Albini family, 
who long retained his name of Philip ; and we find 
the name in the South Molton registers, Devon, 
as late as 1740, along with those of Roger, Wil- 
liam, Peter, Simon, Thomas, Robert, Hugo, &c., all 
Toeni favourites. 

The quotation from Thaun is as follows : — 

** Moooseeros est beste, 
Un come a en U tete 
Cette beste en vert^ nons signifle Dieo, 
Par pacelle est prise," Ac 

In the window, Ashmole says, we have — 
** A woman sitting, and an unicorn resting his bead in 
her lap, with these words upon the unicorn's body, in 
black-letter ; — 

* Unicomus. Christl Incamatio.* ** 

Out of the unicorn's mouth proceeded a scroll, 
with these words ; — 

" Yirginis in gremio unicor ferns ecce mitesco ; 
Sic Deus est et homo, conceptus virginis alvo.'* 

Lastly, the Gresleys, who deseend^from Nigel 
de Toeny, the brother or son of Robert de Staf- 
ford (nephew of the first Lindsay), although they 

do not bear arms at all analogous to anjr others of 
their race, yet carry a lion passant ermine for a 
crest ; and if we accept Grasse or Gras as a form 
of their name — and certainly Gressy is one — 
then we have arms very like Thorn of St. A. ; 
viz. azure, a fess between three lions rampant ar- 

f[ent. Thus have I shown that eagles, swans, 
ions, and lozenges, are the badges of the Thorn 
race in their difierent branches. 1 hope one day to 
submit to the kindly criticism of the readers of 
"N. & Q." "The History of the Scandinavian 
Thorn-tree, its Branches and its Twigs,** as a slight 
return for their very great help. 

Without attempting to answer the Query of 
Mbmob, I would venture to suggest that lozenges, 
mascles, and fusils, all really variations of the 
spindle, indicate descent in the female or spindle 
Ime from the royal houses of England, France, 
and Normandy in days of yore. Take the fami- 
lies of Carteret Granville, Giffard, Thorn, Dau- 
beny, Percy, Quincy (Saier de Quincy, married 
Maud de St Liz), &c. &c., all of whom can prove 
descents from the female off-shoots of royalty. 
This is, I think, as feasible as the bearing of the 
Lioncels amongst the male descendants of the 
Conqueror, about which there can be no dispute ; 
when all the bearers of lozenges, &c., are before 
us, we may perhaps be able to test this supposi* 
tion, and see whether it will hold good. 

N.B. — The earliest record of our name, as now 
pronounced, is given in Roger de Hoveden, where 
there is mention of Richard de Theme, the brother 
of the Queen of Sicily, and Jordan de Pin of the 
household of the kin^. This last is Jordan Des 
Pin, the Crusader (vide Chronicles of the Cru- 
sades) ; he lies buried at Elmstead, Essex, where 
there is a wooden efiigy to him well preserved, 
his feet resting oh a lion, Richard de Thorn I 
believe to be a younger son of Roger Thorn and 
C. B., who was succeeded in his estates in Essex 
and Hertj by Peter, a rebellious baron, sheriff of 
Essex and Herts, whose seat was at Hunsdon, and 
whose line terminated in Lawrence Tany or 
Thany, or Thorn. The name of Lawrence is to 
be found in the St Alban*8 pedigree, and is kept 
up to this day by the race. 

The well-known bravery of the Percies, Dau- 
benies, and Teenies in the Holy Land, quite over- 
throws the notion that "lozenges** were given as 
a mark of disgrace for refusing to go to the Cru- 
I Sbnbx. 

(1-* S. i. 333, 371, 417.) 
In Dr. Richardson's valuable Dictionary, we 
find: — 

" Chapkl, a Chest, a Repositoiy, sc in which the Re- 
liques of the Martyrs were preserved ; then any building 

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in which the capeUa (chests) of Reliqnes were laid; and 
again, any sacred place or place of prayer. 

** Those, Spelman adds, were first called QxpeUani or 
Chaplaint who had the care of these capeH<B of Reh'qnes; 
then those who bad the care of the sacred place where 
these capelfa: were deposited; and at lengtn, all who 
ministered in sacre<l offices : clerici, nempe, et sacerdotes. 
Spelman appears to hare traced this word most satiwTac- 
torily. He derives it 2i Ciceroneano capta, et Pliniano 
capsella; m eliminato. CapeUa pro cista scrinio sea re- 
I«witorio.*' — Olo$9, Archaiol, &c 

To this I may append an extract from one of 
the Rev. J, W. Burgon's interesting Letters on 
the Koroan Catacombs, &c., published in The 
Guardian last year : — 

**Bat the most ungraramatical, as well as the most 

difficult to decipher of all these inscriptions, (I think I 

have spent a day over it,) is the following, — scratched, 

.rather than engraved, on a small tablet in the Moseam 


No. 49. 



'* / Secunda have made a grave to the virttuyus memory of 
my daughter Secundina, who deparUd in faith ; with her 
brotherLaurentius. They departed in peace. 

** Even De Rossi, the great patron of those who sleep 
in the Catacombs, will not approve of cupeila, for the acca- 
sative ; nor offUiem meem, in place of the genitive ; though 
cum fratrem sum may admit of defence ; and receserwnd 
may only reflect the popular pronunciation. But in truth, 
look at the orighial of this inscription ; and you under- 
stand the history of the inaccuracies at once. It belongs, 
in a word, to persons in humble life. 

** The chief point of interest, however, in the preceding 
epitaph, is the word Cupella, — which (I humbly sus- 
pect,) is new. At least it was unknown, (in any such 
sense,) to Dncange. But he gives * cupa,' and quotes for 
it a heathen inscription (to be seen m Gruter, p. 845,) 
which ends, — * In h^ cupft mater et filius positi sunt' 
On this authority, Du Cange explains ' cupa ' to mean 
nmo, area tepnlehroHe, But he refers his reader to 
* Cuba,' of which he says, — * forte pro Cumba, locus sub- 
terraneus;' and he quotes a monkish writer, who em- 
ploys the words as iollows: — *Ad pedes B. Sabini est 

altare S. Martini in alia Cuba, juxta orieniem, 

•epulchrum S.S. Victoris, JDomnini,* &c — *Cuba' and 
' cupa ' are therefore probably one word, of which * cupella ' 
will have been the diminutive. Whether allied to * cumba ' 
or not, I have my doubts. 

" 1 suspect that * cupa ' (the same word as < eup,*) and its 
diminutive 'cupella,' origmally meant a sepulchral vase 
which held the burnt bones of the dead. This kind of 
sense the word preserves to this hour, — 'cnpell' being, 
I believe, the established appellation of a little vessel 
used by refiners. But in early (Christian times, the word 
will have readily sustained a change of signification, in 
connection with the remains of the departed. It will 
have indicated generallv the grave where those remains 
were deposited. How closely connected from a very early 
period were places of sepulture and places of prayer, — 
what need to state before one learned in Christian Anti- 
quities? Ahready then will you have anticipated the 
suggestion for the sake of which I am troubling you with 
thu letter; namely, that we have here the etymology of 
the word Chapbl» which has so long perplexed philolo- 

gists,— yotu^f, I believe, among the rest *Capella' 
(Anglici, * Chapel,*) is derived, I suspect, from * Cupella,' 
which in the fourth of fifth century denoted a place of 
Christian burial, — as the humble inscription under con- 
sideration shows. Perhaps Vault would be the nearest 
English equivalent for the word. 

♦* A story is, or was, current in Oxford, of a youth, so 
elated with an approving nod which he got from the 
examiner for his reply, (* Saul,') to the question, * Who 
was the first Jewish King? ' — that he leaned forward, 
and added confidentially, — « also called PauU With this 
warning before me, I am afraid to suggest further that 
• Cupola ' may be only another form of the same word. I 
shall be quite content with having discovered the true 
etymology of Chapel. 

"Oriel, Nov. 17th, 1860. J. W. B." - 

The word Chapel is now verj variously applied, 
but always to some edifice distinct from the Parish 
Church. Thus it is applied to district churches 
in large parishes, or Chapels-of-ease as they are 
called, in England and Wales the word generally 
signifies a Preaching-house or Meeting-bouse of 
Dissenters. In Scotland, the sacred edifices of 
the Church, since it has ceased to be " established,** 
are called "English Chapels,** or "Episcopal 
Chapels.*' In Ireland, the word is uniformly ap- 
plied to the Roman (iatholic Churches; so that 
" going to Chapel ** has a very different meaning 
in different parts of the United Kingdom. Per- 
haps the custom of building Lady-chapels, Mor- 
tuary-chapels for royal and noble families, &c., 
may have been the transitional step by which the 
word came to be applied to an extra-parochiid 

The old Enfflish Proverb uses the word in a 
bad sense : " Where God has a Church the Devil 
has a Chappel.*' Defoe quotes this proverb at the 
beginning of his True-Bom Englishman as a note 
on his well-known lines : — 

" Wherever God erects a House of Prayer, 
The Devil always builds a Chappel there. 
And 'twill be found upon examination 
The latter has the largest congregation." 

Ray gives the same proverb in Italian, from 
which perhaps ours was translated and borrowed — 
Non si tosto si fa un Templo a Dio come il diavolo 
dfahrica una capella appresso, Eibionnach. 


(2«'" S. xii. 89.) 

I think it will probably interest other readers 
besides your correspondent to have the whole of 
the inscription on the tomb of Captain Tettersell 
printed in " N. & Q.,** more particularly as in 
these days of iconoclasts, and that other class of 
people, equally dangerous, whose taste is for 
" improving ** (f ) monuments, it is impossible to 
say now long these precious records of the past 
may be spared to us. The tomb, a plain altar 
one, is situated on the east side of the south door 

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of the chtncel ; and the inscription, which I copied 
in April last, is as follows : — 

" P. M. S. 
«* Cap* Nicholas Tettersell through whose prudence 
Ualonr an Loyalty, Charles the Second, King of Eng- 
land, and after he had escaped the sword of his merciless 
rebells, and his fforses receiued a fatall ouerthrowe at 
Worcester, Sept** 8^ 1651, was ffaitbfully presemed and 
conneyed into Ffrance, departed this life the 26^ day of 
July. 1674. „ 

** Within this marble monaent doth lye, 
Approned Ffaith, Ilono** and Loyalty : 
In this Cold Clay he hath now tane up his ststio". 
At once preserued y Church, the Croune, and Nation ; 
When Charles y Create was nothing but a breat»». 
This ualiant soule stept botweene him and death. 
Usurpers threats, nor tyrant rebells froune. 
Could not afright his duty to the Crowne. 
Which glourious act of his, for Church and State, 
Eight Princes in one day did Gratulate; 
Profeming all to him in debt to bee, 
As all the world are to his memory. 
Since Earth could not Reward his worth haue giae", 
Uee now receiues it from the King of Ileauen. 
** In the same Chest one Jewell more yon haue, 
The Partner of his Uertues, Bed, and Graue. 

" Susanna his Wife, who Decesed y« 4»»» Day of Mar, 

1G72. To whose Pious Memory and his owne bono' 

Nicholas theire only Son. and Just inherite of his Ffathers 

Uertues, hath payd his last Duty in this Monument. 

• 1676. 

** ITere alsolieth Interred the bodv of Captain Nicholas 
Tettorsell, his son, who departed tfiis life the fourth of 
the Calends of October, 1701, in the 67 year of his Ago." 

I may take this opportunity of adding mj 
opinion to that expressed by several correspon- 
dents, on the great advantage it would be to nave 
a register of inscriptions belonging to every church 
and cemetery. I purpose this autumn making 
copies of the older inscriptions in the various 
churches and churchyards I may visit ; and should 
there be any plan started for the collection of 
epitaphs, I should bo happy to contribute any in 
my possession. J. A. Pn. 

(2^^ S. iv. 155.) 

I have looked through the Indexes of " N. & 
Q.," but do not see any notice of a curious French 
work, translated and published in England in 
1 761 . It is a small 8vo. with this title : — 

"Giphantia, or a View of What has passed, What is 
now passing, and during the present Century, What will 
pass. In the World. Translated from the original French, 
with explanatory notes. London. PrinUd for Robert 
Horsfield, in Ludgate Street, 1761." 

It is the narrative of a person taken to an island 
in the midst of a tempestuous ocean of moving 
sands, named Giphantia. He there meets the 
Prefect of the island, who shows him a storm at 
sea, which turns out to be merely a picture, and 
then follows the curious detail : 

<* The elementary spirits (continued the Prefect), are 
not so able painters as naturalists ; thou shalt judge by 
their wav of working. Thou knowest that the rays of 
light, reflected from different bodies, make a picture and 
paint the bodies upon all polished surfaces, on the retina 
of the eye, for instance, on water, on glass. The ele- 
mentary spirits have studied to fix these transient im* 
ages : iLbey have composed a most subtile matter, very 
viscous, and proper to harden and dry, by the help of 
which a picture is made in the twinkling of an eye. 
They do over with this matter a piece of cxmvas, and 
hold it before the objects they have a mind to paint. 
The first effect of the canvas is that of a mirrour; there 
are seen upon it all the bodies far and near whose image 
the light can transmit. But what the glass cannot do, 
the canvas, by means of the viscous matter, retains the 
images. The mirrour shows the objects exactly; bat 
keeps none; oure canvases show them with the same 
exactness, and retains them all. This impression of the 
image is made the first instant they are received on the 
csnvas, which is immediately carried away into some 
dark place; an hour aAer the subtile matter dries, and 
you have a picture so much the more valuable, aa it can- 
not be imitated by art nor damaged by time. We take, 
in their purest source, in the luminous bodies, the colours 
which painters extract from different materials, and which 
time never fails to alter. The justness of the design, the 
truth of the expression, the gradation of the shades, the 
stronger or weaker strokes, the rules of perspective, all 
these we leave to nature, who, with a sure and never- 
erring hand, draws upon our canvases, images which 
deceive the eye, and make reason to doubt whether, what 
are called real objects, are not phantoms which impose 
npon the sight, the hearing, the feeling, and all the 
senses at once. 

** The Prefect then entered into some physical discus- 
sions, first, on the nature of the glutinous sul>stance 
which intercepted and retained the rays; secondly, upon 
the difliculties of preparing and using it ; thirdly, upon 
the struggle between the rays of light and the dned snb- 
stance ; three problems which I propose to the naturalists 
of our days, and leave to their sagacity." 

Many of the foregoing particulars bear a won- 
derful likeness to the art of photography as prac- 
tised by the " sagacity " of the naturalists " of the 
present century ; ** and if thb curious volume has 
escaped notice hitherto, it is singular that it 
should be brought to light exactly a hundred 
years from its publication. John S. Bubm. 

The Grove, Henley. 

(2°* S. xii. 101.) 

Mb. Colltbb, in hb interesting extracts from 
the above Registers, states that the ballad on 
Queen £lizabeth*s visit to the camp at Tilbury, 
anno 1588, is subscribed by T. J. The broadside 
with which I am acquainted, and which tallies in 
every respect with that reprinted, in 1840, by the 
Percy Society, has the initials T. D. appended to 
it I conclude, therefore, that Thomas Delon^ or 
Deloney, " the balleting silke-weaver*' of Norwich, 
and one of the most popular versifyers of his day 
(1586—1600), was the author of it. He was 
likewise the author of The Obtayninge of the Ou" 

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leazzo, wherein Don Pieiro de Valdez was Chief e^ 
^., and of A BaUade of the straunge Whippes, 
which the Spanyards had prepardefor the Engtishe 
Men and nomen, Sfc. The last-mentioned ballad, 
bj far the most interesting of the three, has a 
rude woodcut of the two formidable instruments 
in question. As the broadside b excessively rare, 
I will extract the rhyming weaver's description 
of them: — 

** And not content by fire and sword 

to take our right awaj, 
Bot to torment most cruelly 

onr ladies night and day : 
AUhoogh tbej ment, with mardring hands, 

oar guiltlesse bloud to apill. 
Before onr deathes tbej did denise 

to whip US first their fill. 

" And for that purpose had preparde 

of whips soch wondrous store ; 
So straungely made, that sure the like 

was never seene before : 
For never was there horse nor mnl^ 

nor dogge of currish kinde, 
That euer had such whips deuised, 

by any sauadge minde. 

** One sorte of whips they had for men, 
so smarting, fierce, and fell ; 
As like could nener be deuised 

* by any deuiU in hell. 
The strings whereof with wyerie knots, 

like rowells tbey did frame. 
That enery stroke might teare the flesh, 
they layd on with the same. 

*' And*plackt the spreading sinewes from 

the bardned ulondie bone. 
To pricke and pearce each tender veine 

within the bodie knowne. 
And not to leaue one crdoked ribbe 

on any side nnseene ; 
Nor yet to leaue a lump of flesh 

the head and foote betweene. 

** And for our seelie women eke 

their harts with griefe to clogge. 
They made such whips wherewith no man 

would seeme to strike a dogge : 
So strengthned eke with brasen tagges, 

and filde so ronghe and thinne, 
That they would force at euery lash 

the blond abroad to spinne." 

We owe, then, it would seem, to the Spaniards 
of the sixteenth century the introduction of the 
"cat o* nine tails" into our country. — AVill Mb. 
CoixiER kindly inform me whether the ballad, 
entitled The late Wonderftdl Dystres which the 
Spanish Navye sustayned in the late Fight^ is 
extant P And if so, where a sight or rather tran. 
script of it can be obtained ? /S. 

BiBTH OP Napolbon II. (2»* S. xii. 12, 76.) — 
With reference to the order given by Napoleon I. 
to prefer the mother, in case the lives of mother 
and child could not both be saved, allow me to 
mquire of your medical and legal readers whether 
there is no rule or law in such cAies, and whether 

the life to be sacrificed depends on the choice or 
caprice of the operator or of the husband ? Some 
years affo I conversed with an Italian physician, a 
man of great skill and experience, and of sin- 
gular humanity and piety, on this very subject ; 
and he assured me that, in his country, there was 
no choice, but that in all doubtful cases, the 
mother's life was to be sacrificed; and that a 
physician who killed the child in order to save 
the mother would be in law a murderer. He 
added, that the Roman Catholic Church, of which 
he was a member, held similar doctrine, and that 
he would expose himself to the gravest censures 
from the ecclesiastical authorities, if he were 
known, either by his own confession, or other- 
wise, to have saved the mother at the expense of 
her offspring. 

In fact, he treated it as an act equally criminal 
with that of procuring abortion to save a woman's 

Is this the teaching of English law*, and of the 
Anglican Church? Sttutes. 

Charles Arthomt (2*^^ S. xii. 28.) — Replies 
received from William Dnrrant Cooper, Esq., the 
Rev. John Temple, of Welch Bicknor, and the 
Rev. John Ward, of Wath, enable us to state 
that Mr. Anthony, who was bom 6 Nov. IQOO, 
was instituted to the vicarage of Catterick 19 Sept 
1660, and was buried there 25 June, 1685. There 
is a monument to bis memory in the chancel, and 
Mr. Ward has been good en6ugh to forward us a 
copy of the inscription. 

C. H. & Thobipson Cooper. 


Rev. Cornelius Batley, D.D. (2*"* S. xii. 107.) 
— Dr. Bayley died 2nd April, 1812. G. W. N. 

Hastivqs (2<^ S. xii. 8.) — The question rabed 
by C. D., reduced to its simplest form, appears to 
be whether the family of which the last representa- 
tive was (after the death of her first husband), 
married to Godfrey de Lauvaine, had any con- 
nection with the baronial house of Hastings. The 
name of Hastings appears to have been attributed 
as well to the family as to the lordship which 
they held in Essex. Probably it was from the 
lordship that the family derived its name; and 
if so, the question arises whether the name of 
the lordship (and consequently of the family) was 
not originally Eystanes, as it is called by Duffdale 
(^Baronage^ vol. i. p. 736), afterwards modified 
into Eistan^ and perhaps ultimately into Easton. 
At all events, from Eystanes to Hastings the 
transition is not violent. x brag. 

Bequest op a Bed (2"* S. xi. 477.)— There is 
an earlier instance of a bequest of a bed than that 
of William of Wykeham to which Mr. Walcott 
alludes, — William, Lord Ferrers, of Groby, who 
died in 1371, by his testament, bearing date 1 

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Janii, an. 1368, bec^ueathed to Henry, his son, bis 
green bed, with his arms thereon ; and to Mar- 
garet, his daughter, his white bed and all the 
furniture, with the arms of Ferrers and Uffbrd 
empaled. (Dugdale^s Baronage^ voL L p. 268.) 


Skippbt (2"^ S. xi. 407.) — I would surest 
that this word is a diminutive form otskep^ a wicker 
basket, A.-S. scep^ sciop^ a skip, basket, or tub 
(Bos worth, in voc). Isl. skap-ker^ is a cup or 
hollow vessel ; and Isl. at skapa, or at skepia^ is, 
to form, fabricate, design, or make (whence our 
Englbh skape)j derived from Isl. at «Aa, to cut or 
carve (secare). Dan. skiavy means "small guts 
of cattle plaited together." Wm. Matthew. 


Peter Tbmplk, the Regicide (2'»* S. xii. 30, 
78.) — Among those who signed the warrant for 
the execution of Charles I., there were two 
Temples — Peter and James ; but I think it will 
be found that Peter Temple, the regicide^ was not 
Sir Peter Temple of Stow. 

1. It appears to be a question whether Peter 
Temple, the regicide, was ever knighted, or in 
any way entitled to be called Sir Peter, 

2. The wife of Peter Temple, the regicide, is 
supposed to have been named Eleanor, Sir Peter 
Temple of Stow wa^ twice married, but his first 
wife was named Anne^ and the second Christian, 

3. Peter Temple, the regicide, lived till after 
the Restoration in May, 1660. Sir Peter Temple, 
of Stow, died in 1653. 

(See Collins's Peerage (1812), vol. ii. p. 418, 
and Granger's Biographical History (1779), vol. 
iii. pp. 84, 144.) 

It is evident that the stranger, buried at Nor- 
wich in January, 1660, could not be either Peter 
Temple, the regicide, or Sir Peter Temple, the 

Peter Temple, the refficide, is said to have pub- 
lished, in 1658, a smali work in 12mo, entitled 
MarCs Masterpiece, Can any of your readers 
give the title in full ? * Melbtes. 

Peter and James Temple the Regicides, in the 
death-warrant of Charles I., seal with appa- 
rently the same arms, a chevron between three 
martlets. The colours in Mr. Hotten's fac- 
simile are not marked or described, but Burke's 
General Armory gives — 

" Sa. a chev. crm. betw. three martlets ar. Crest, a 

[* Man*s Master-Piece, or the best Improvement of the 
worst Condition. In the exercise of a Christian Duty. 
On six considerable actions: 1. The contempt of the 
world. 2. The judgment of God against the wicked, 
&c. 8. Meditations on repentance. 4. Meditations on 
the Holy Supper. 6. Meditations on afflictions and mar- 
tyrdom. G. With a meditation for one that is sick. By 
P. T. Kt, Load. 12mo. 1658. Pp. 252,] 

talbot selant sa., collared or. Granted 1576 to Temple, 
Bnckingbamshire, Kent, and Leicastershire. 

May I ask how and why the present members 
of that family bear different arms, viz. Quarterly 
1st and 4th an eagle displayed sa. 2nd and 
3rd ar. two bars, each charged with 3 martlets 
or. ? When, and to whom, were the latter bear- 
ings granted? Elpmbti. 

Dutba (2"* S. vii. 106, 284.) —The following 
note with regard to this plant may be interesting 
to your correspondent Mr. Kino. It is from 
Mandelslo, Travels into the Indies^ London, 1669, 
lib. iL p. 83. He says of this drug : — 

** It so stupifies a man*s senses, as that he seems either 
to have lost them, or to sleep with his eyes open. The 
Indians call this herb Doutro, Doutry, or Datura, and the 
Turks and Persians Datula. Garcias ab Uorto and 
Christopher d'Acosta affirm, that is a kind of Stramonea; 
that the herb grows abundantly all over the Indies, in 
the shade, and that it is somewliat like Bearafoot. They 
extract the juice of it, while it is green, or they beat the 
seed to powder, and mix it in conserves, or put it into 
his drink, whom they would reduce to that condition for 
twenty-four hours ; during which time he is deprived of 
the use of all his senses, so that he does not see what is 
done before him, though his eyes be open, unless some- 
bodpr moisten the soles of his feet with fair water, which 
revives and recovers him, much after the same manner as 
if he awoke oat of a sound sleep." 



Judges Powell and Twtsden on Witches 
(2»* S. xi. 427.) — Compilers of anecdbte-books 
are to be little relied upon when they do not cite 
title and page. I have not been able to find the 
original auUiority for Mr. J. Powell's sensible 
conduct. From all I have read of Twisden I 
should expect sound law, but no freedom from 
prejudices of his time, or tendency to expose non- 
sense by ridicule. Here is perhaps the founda- 
tion of what is imputed to him. In a case on 
action for the words — *' Thou art a witch, and 
deserves to be hanged as well as Arthur, who was 
hanged for a witch," — the report says : — 

" Et Twisden Justice dit que touts les differences con* 
cernant lappellant dun Witckt ^c.^ fueront pris in Adam> 
sons case, que fuit circa 23 Car. (come il remember) quel 
fuit souvent foits ar^ue. Et tenus que a dire Thou art a 
Witch nest actionable. Mes a dire. Thou art a witch, and 
ha»t baaitched my mothers mlh, drinkf Poreelt, 8fc, Jssint 
semble de infants, mes a dire TTuni art a witch, and hast 
bewitched G. S., quaere si ceo soit actionable, quia G. S. 
poit estre captivated ove le amiableness del person le Plain- 
tiff, etc Et issint per ascon est difference perent dizant 
que ad bewitch chose que ad sence et chose que nad 
sence.'* — Dacey v. Clinch, 1 Sid. 53 ; see also, Yiner*s 
Abridgment, i. 422. 


Garrick Club. 

Land Measure (2°* S. ix, 426.)— If your cor- 
respondent 4i will read the article "Perch" in the 
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it has varied considerably in several parts of Eng- 
land. The reason is not given. From the articles 
"Mile," "Weights and Measures," and " Stand- 
ard,** he will gain some knowledge as to the deri- 
vation of our several measures. When he has 
done, he will no doubt be astonbhed at the want 
of uniformity and certainty. I was dumb- founded. 

W. P. 

CUBONICLE OP WOBGBSTBR (2°* S. xi. 267.) — 

I have a good general recollection of the trial, 
but I did not answer the query when it appeared, 
hoping to find some one on circuit who haa made 
a note. Few are left who were present ; no note 
can be found, so I send the best account I can, 
and hope it may meet the eye of some one who 
will make the desirable additions and corrections. 

The cause was tried about fifteen years ago at 
Gloucester. The parties were infiuential inhabit- 
ants of Pershore. They met on the opposite sides 
of a stile ; quarrelled, spat in each other*s faces, 
and then came to blows. He who got the worst 
was as usual the plaintiff, and retained Serjeant 
Talfourd, who made a speech of more eloquence 
than the facts seemed to deserve. Mr. Whately, 
for the defendant, tried to laugh the case out of 
court. He quoted from Rays Prorer&«— "As 
spitful as a Parshore man** — and said that the 
evidence just heard rendered the editor*s note, 
" Qu. spiteful,*' unnecessary. He then told the 
jury, that in the recently-discovered Chronicon de 
Evesham, the peculiarities of the people of Worces- 
tershire in the time of Henry III. were described. 
The chronicle, he said, was written by a young 
monk of great literary attainments for the time, 
who was made abbot by the Chief Justiciar — 
" mira cum perturbatione manachorumy Of Per- 
shore the Chronicle says : 

** Homines de Perehore cum valde irati sant, salivam 
In adversarios exprimant, pngnisque cootundont: quod 
miram ac fcedam est." 

This, though intended to be taken as a joke, 
was so admirably delivered, that four-fifths of the 
hearers thought it was not wit, but research. 
Among these was the plaintifi^s counsel. 

Then aicd now on Circuit. 

Oxford Circuit, July 24. 

Passage in Dbmosthbnes (2"* S. x. 168.) — I 
have waited, expecting some one who knows more 
than myself of Demosthenes, to say whether the 
passage about the eagle is by him or noL The 
thought is in Aristophanes : ~ 

**'Av« pvv, offiaf ttVTOvt^ apay¥m<n o €4 /lOi, 
Keu rhy ircpi r .ov, 'xtlvov, ^cp ^ioatu^ 
*0« i¥ rc^4Ai}o-iv OMT^ ycinf ottftai. ^ 

U. U. Club. 

JSquites, V. 1008. 
H. B. C. 

SiB Richard Pole, K.G. (2'»« S. xii. 76.) — 
C. J. R. is in error, in stating that Viscount Bar- 
rmgton is descended from Thomas Barrington 

who married Lad^ Winifred Hastings. Viscount 
Barrington*s family name is Shute, which was 
changed bv Act of Parliament to that of Barring- 
ton, on his ancestor John Shute succeeding to 
the estates of Mr. Francis Barrington of Tofts, in 
Little Baddow, Essex, who had married Elizabeth, 
daughter of Samuel Shute, Sheriff of London, 
1681 : and having no issue, adopted his wife*s 
cousin John, son of her father*s brother Benjamin 
Shute. Francis Barrington, of Tofts, was sou of 
Sir Grobert Barrington, Knt, second son of Sir 
Thomas Barrington, of Barrington Hall, Bart., 
grandson of the Sir Thomas Barrington who had 
married Winifred, Lady Hastings, widow of Sir 
Thomas Hastings, and daughter and co-heir of 
Henry Lord Montagu, son of Sir Richard Pole, 
K.G., and of his wife Margaret Plantagenet, 
Countess of Salisbury, daughter of George, Duke 
of Clarence. C. de D. 

Among other descendants of Sir Richard Pole, 
KG., and Margaret Plantagenet, Countess of 
Salisbury, are the issue of their daughter Lady 
Ursula role, married to Henry Lord Stafford, 
eldest son of Edward III. and last Duke of Buck- 
ingham. From this marriage descended the 
Barons and Earls of Stafford of the Stafford and 
Howard families, as also the present family of 
Jerningham, Lord Stafford. C. R. S. M. 

Law of Settlement: Inmates (2"* S. xii. 26.) 
— The intrusion of strangers into parishes is a 
Subject on which some curious information may 
be found in corporation records of the seven- 
teenth century. The poor law was administered 
by the corporation, and in the Records of the 
Borough of Grantham are frequent directions to 
the constables to seek out such intruders. 

When they had obtained licence to reside, they 
were styled inmates ; seats were allowed them in 
the aisles, not in the nave, of the church. 

B. L. W. 

Steele, Family or (2«»* S. xii. 89.) — Will 
Dr. Steele kindly inform me what degree of 
relationship Joshua Steele bore to Sir Richard. 
Joshua was an amiable, though eccentric person, 
and of some note, in his day, with Clarkson, and 
the other " African Institution ** writers. By a 
curious coincidence he too came in for an estate 
in Barbados (Kendall) in right of his wife Sarah 
Osborne, widow of Robert Osborne. 

Joshua Steele assumed the management of this 
plantation in 1780, being then sixty vears old. 
He introduced the system of " task-work ** among 
his slaves ; made them " copyholders ** after a plan 
of his own, and caused them to be tried for of- 
fences committed against the estate bv "juries** 
of each other. He died in 1797, leavmg his 
"estates of every sort** to his sister Mary Ann 
Steele and his " two children, Catherine Steele and 
Edward Steele, but not so as to become the pro- 

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pertj of any other person claiming in right of my 
8aid children, who are now slaves, but for their 
own proper benefit and not otherwise." 

Kendall Estate was the scene of that stor j of 
'*Yarico" so exauisitelj told by Ligon in his 
History of Barhaaos. Robbbt Rbecb. 

Matpolbs (2»^ S. xii. 11, 78.)— At Castle B;r- 
tham charch, Lincolnshire, the bell-chamber is 
reached from the ringing-chamber by a ladder, on 
one side of which are some letters, rudely cut, in- 
forming the reader that "this was the village 
Maypole, 1660.*' Stamfobdiehsis. 

Captain John Mbabbs (2<** S. xii. 88.) — I 
suspect that A. A. may be in error as to the 
Christian name* of this officer, and as to the fact 
of his havinc been, properly speaking, an arctic 
voyacer. I iiave often heard my mother speak 
of a family of the name of Meares,with whom she 
was intimate in her younger days. They lived at 
Island Bridffe, near Dublin, and there were two 
sons, I think, named Charles and Lewis. One of 
these went to sea, and he was the officer who 
had the affair with the Spaniards in Nootka 
Sound towards the end of the last centurv. He 
published a narrative of that affair in either one 
or two volumes, octavo, and I think there is a 
portrait of him in it. This I apprehend is the 
Captain Meares about whom A. A. wishes for 
information, and I wish I could give him more. 
I doubt if there be any biographical notice of 
him ; but I would recommend A. A. to examine 
the obituaries of the Oentleman*s Magazine for the 
early years of the present century. 

T^os. Keiohtlbt. 

N.B. The Harleian Scraps given by Mb. Wii/- 
ltaus at p. 83 is in metric prose, like Chaucer*s 
Tale of Melihexts, &c. I thence infer that it is 
later than the time of Chaucer. 

SlB ROGBB WiLBBAHAM (2»* S. xil. 70.) — 

Our Query has produced most friendly letters 
from Dr. Ormerod, the venerable historian of 
Cheshire, and the Rev. Delves Broughton. The 
latter gentleman has furnished us with a copy of 
the inscription on Sir Roser Wilbraham*s monu- 
ment at iiadley, part only of which is given in 
Le Neve's Monumenta Anglicana, 

From these communications we derive the fol- 
lowing information respecting Sir Roger Wilbra- 
ham: — 

1. He was born in or about 1554, being second 
son of Richard Wilbraham of Nantwicb, Esq., by 

[* The Christian name was added by us, thinking at 
the time that A. AJa query bad some reference to John 
Meares, who published in 1790 Voyages made in the Tear 
1788-9, /rom China to the North- fPest Coast ofAmenca 
• • • ^ith Obeervaiions on the probable existence of a North- 
V^^ZV^' '*^» ^d translated into French by J. B. 
L. J. Bdlecocq, 8vo. 8 vols. 1795.— Ed.] 

his wife Eliza, daughter of Thomas Maisterson, 
Esq., of the same pUce. 

2. By privy seal, dated 11 Feb. 1585-6, he was 
appointed Solicitor-Greneral for Ireland, his pa- 
tent for the office being dated Dublin, 19 April, 

3. He was sworn one of the Masters of Requests 
in Ordinary in 1600. 

4. His patent as Solicitor-Greneral of Ireland 
was revoked in 1603. 

5. He married Mary, daughter of Edward 
Baber, Serjeant-at-law. 

6. His eldest daughter Marj was the first wife 
of Sir Thomas Felham. (Colhns and others fol- 
lowing him call her the third daughter.) 

7. His youngest daughter Catharine was the 
first wife of Sir Henry Delves, Bait, (afterwards 
Bart.), to whom she was married at Wyburnbury, 
Cheshire, 21 May, 1620, being buried there 28th 
(or 23rd) August, 1630. 

8. His widow became the second wife of Sir 
Thomas Delves, Bart, and was buried at Wy- 
burnbury, 6 Jan. 1644-5. 

The present is one of many instances of the 
great utility of your periodical. 

We may add that Sir Roger Wilbraham was of 
Christ's College, in this University, but took no 
degree. C. H. & Thoupson Cooper. 


Heraldic (2»* S. xii. 10.)— InBoutelFsiWonM- 
mental Brasses and Slabs, published by G. Bell, 
186, Fleet Street, 1847, there is a description of 
a slab " lately found" in the church of St. Bride's, 
Glamorganshire. It represents a knight in cross- 
legged attitude, and is the memorial of Sir John 
de Botiler (circa 1285). His ^* shield is charged 
with three covered cups, the heraldic bearing of 
Botiler or Butler.*' Elpmeti. 

The Pabton Fabolt (2»« S. xii. 69.) — Sir 
John Paston, Knt (eldest son of John Paston, 
Esq., and Margaret, his wife, daughter and heiress 
of John Mauteby, Esq.), was bom about 1440, 
and died, unmarried, on the 15th of November, 
1479, leaving a natural daughter, named Cus- 

Mr. Francis Worship, in a very interesting 
Account of a MS, Genealogy of the Paston Family, 
in the possession of His Grace the Duke of New- 
castle,' f states, on the authority of Frances Sand- 
ford, the compiler of the pedigree, that Sir John 

* See a pedigree of the Paston family in the first 
volume of the Paston Letters^ quarto edition, 1787 ; also 
page 94, et ug. of a Sketch of the History of Caitter Cattle, 
edite;l by the late Mr. 'Dawson Turner, London : Wliit- 
taker & Co. 1842 ; also, page 487 of the sixth volume of 
Blomefield's Norfolk, 8vo. edition, 1807. 

t See page 1 et $eq. of 4ho fourth volume of Norfolk 
Archaology, published by the Norfolk and Norwich 
Archwological Society. Norwich: Muskett, 1865. 

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Paston, " dyed without issue.'* There was, how- 
ever, another Sir John Paston, Knt. (a jounger 
brother of the one above-mentioned), who in- 
herited the estates of his ancestors at Paston, &c., 
and died in 1503, having survived his wife Mar- 
gery (the daughter of Sir Thomas Brews, of 
btinton Hall, m Sail, Norfolk), about eight 


Hebus Fbatbb. 

Edwab^ I. AMD Lleweltn (2»* S. xii. 9, 78.) — 
There are difficulties in this legend which your 
correspondent is not aware of. It is given in 
Mapes de Nrtgis Curialium (Camden Soo., vol. i. 
p. 99), and in Camden's Britannia (edit. 1607, p. 
t257), on the authority of Mapes. 

The Camden publication (pp. 97 — 99) identifies 
Llywelyn (Luelinus) as the third of that name, 
son of Griffin, and the " Rex Edwardus " is, of 
course, intended for Edward I., his contemporary. 
The accession of this kinff was in 1272 ; but Mr. 
Wright, the editor of the Nuga, states that 
nothing is known of Mapes after his becoming 
archdeacon in 1196 (p. viii.), and therefore he 
must have died long before the earliest possible 
date that can be assi^ed to the legend. 

Camden cites "Mapseus" as his authority, 
styling the King Edward ** Edwardus Senior." 
It is clear that the Saxon king, so denominated, 
could nut be the person intended, for he died in 
924, about ninety years before the accession of 
the first Llywelyn, named ap Sitsylt. 

Nothing then appears certain as to the legend, 
except that if Edward I. is really intended, it 
must have been an interpolation after the death 
of Mapes. Geo. O. 

Db. Alabastee (2»* S. xii. 107.) — See Rus- 
sell's Memor, of I'hos, Fuller, p. 6, for his degrees, 
&C., Fuller's Worthies, iii. 185, 186, Mr. Hack- 
man's invaluable index to his Catalogue of the 
Tanner MSS, He has Latin elegiacs m Camdeni 
EpistolcBy Append., p. 389 (where the name is 
written Allibaster). On his friendship for Arch- 
bishop Williams, see Hacket, ii. 137. « 

John £. B. Matob. 

St John's College, Cambridge. 

Gamma will find a notice of Dr. Alabaster in 
Fuller*8 Worthies. Addison mentions him in the 
Spectator. The index to my copy of the Spectator 
is very faulty, and I cannot from memory give 
the number or date of the paper in which he is so 
mentioned. W. C. 

Bbitishbbs (2»*S. xii. 67, 116.) — Unbda has 
never been, I presume, in this town. I have met 
with a great many American " gentlemen,** and 
American captains, in the mercantile navy ; the 
latter are very generally men of great experience, 
and certainly well educated — far better, I must 
sa^ (without disparagement to our Englbh cap- 
tarns), than the commanders of Englbh mer- 

chant ships. The Americans, one and all, in 
conversation with us, always address us as *^ you 
Britishers.** When speaking of the people of 
France, Spain, Germany, &c., they use the ternr 
" foreigners.'* I asked an American "gentleman" 
once, why he called us " Britishers *' ? And his 
reply was, " Out of respect, as we wish to pay 
your country a conopliment, and distinguish you 
from foreigners." This I have reason to believe 
is true. S. Redmond. 

Fossiblb and Actual (2«»* S. xii. 117.) — The 
gentleman, whose signature is P. S. Cabet, and 
to whom all readers of ** N. & Q." are much in- 
debted for the many interesting Notes which he 
contributes to its pages, has adopted an erroneous 

S notation, which appeared a few weeks back in 
le Saturday Review as — **What is impossible 
cannot be, — and very rarely comes to pass.** The 
lines are (I quote the whole verse) : — 

** They cannot come, sweet maid I to thee ; 
Flesh, both of cur and man, is grass ! 
And wbat*8 impossible can't be ; 
And never, never comes to pass ! ** * 

Last week there was, in the Saturday Review, a 
strange perversion of a line by Cowper. Cowper*B 
line — 

•♦ Their tameness is shocking to me, »' — 

has, by the Saturday Reviewer, been perverted into 
** Their sitence was horrid to me." 

W. C. 

Fhgbnix Family (2'»* S. xii. 109.)— In reply to 
your correspondent's inquiry, I beg to say that a 
butcher, named Fhenix (without the diphthong), 
lived in this town, but died a short time since. 
His mother is still living. I believe that the word 
is nothing more than the corrupted form of 
^* Fenwick;'* a family not common about this 
part, although I have heard that, the name is 
north- country, viz. about Newcastle-upon-Tyne. 

I hope this may help your correspondent. 

John Nuesb Chadwick. 

Dabk Ages (2»* S. xi. 868.)— I find, in Todd*8 
Johnson (sub voc Dabk), the following lines from 
Denham : — 

** The age, wherein he lived, was dark ; but he 
Could not want sight, who taught the world to see.^ 

I know not to whom the poet here refers ; but 
this stanza, written temp, Charles I., may possibly 
assist Wm. H. to the solution of his Query. 

Wm. Matthews. 

The Etonian (2~> S. xii. 12, 79.) — It is stated 
by J. F. S. that Macaulav was an Etonian. I 
had some acquaintance with that distinguished 
man; and I think that he was not educated at 
Eton, or at any public school. Sttlites. 

[• "The Water Fiends," by George Colman the Youn- 
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MoLB (or Molle) John and Henrt (2"'* S. 
xii. 109). John Molle, governor to Lord Ros8 
jn his travels, fell into the hands of the Inquisi- 
tion. See Fuller's Church History^ ed. Brewer, 
V. 380, seq,., Sir H. Wotton's Remains^ p. 314, 
Fuller's Worthies in DevoruhirCy 8vo. ed., i. 401. 
One John Molle translated into English the first 
century of the Opera Horarum Subsecivaruni of 
Phil. Camerarius (fol. Lond. 1621), under the 
title of The living Librarie ; o'r^ Meditations and 
Observations historical^ natural^ moral and poetical. 

Fuller derived his information respecting this 
Protestant confessor from Molle's son Henry, 
Fellow of King's College, public orator of the 
University, and grandson to the famous Sir John 
Cheke (Life of Bishop Moreton, York, 1659, p. 4). 
Henry Molle has verses in Epiced. Cantahr. 
(1612), pp. 94, 95, and in Oenethliacum Acad. 
Cant. (1631), pp. 6, 7. An account of his elec- 
tion as public orator is contained in MS. Baker, 
xxxiii. 241. He died 10 May, 1658. Harwood'a 
Alumni Eton. p. 214. John £. B. Mayor. 

St. JohD*8 College, Cambridge. 

Thomas Simon (2°* S. xii. 2.) — Vertue does 
not appear to have known much of the personal 
history of Thomas Simon. Perhaps some of your 
correspondents may be able to throw light upon 
the following points ; — 

1. What was the family name of Elizabeth, the 
wife of Thomas Simon ? 

2. When was he married to her, and where P 

3. It is known that he lived in the parish of 
St. Clement Danes. Can it be ascertained in 
what part of the parish ? 

4. In a paper that appeared in the Revue Nw 
mismatique about three years ago, Thomas Simon 
is spoken of as being a Frenchman. Is there any 
reason for supposing that such was the case ? 

5. Is anything known respecting House, the 
engraver, spoken of by Vertue as having in his 
possession the e^gy of Thomas Simon cut in 
steel ? Mrmor. 

Books burnt by the Hangman (!»' S. passim; 
2»'» S. i. 397, 498 ; ii. 19, 77 ; ix. 37 ; x. 106.) — 
A pamphlet called The Monster' of Monsters, 
printed in Boston in 1754, was ordered, by the 
General Court of Massachusetts Bay, " to be 
burnt by the hands of the common hangman, in 
King Street, Boston." — American Historical 
Magazine and Notes and Queries, March, 1859. 

K. P. D. E. 

Patents (2°* S. xii. 109.)— My statement, 
de at the late meeting of the Kent Archaeolo- 
gical Society, is not given quite accurately by 
your correspondent Clarrt. The circumstance 
happened, not a "short time" ago, but many 
years since ! And I only met with it, as a quota- 
tion, from a work entitled Thoughts on Laughter. 
The original work I never saw ; and I merely ad- 

verted to the circumstance by way of illustration, 
my object being to show the. necessity of praC' 
ticaUy, personally, and in situ, investigating all the 
"belongings" of those objects which form the 
study of archaeologists, instead of inspecting them 
in public or private galleries or museums. 

Nor did I say that the " patent was forfeited" ; 
but simply that an action, brought against a party 
who had infringed it, was decided 9i the de- 
fendant's favour. 

The legal question I do not pretend to under- 
stand ; but should suppose that something would 
depend on the wording of the patent. The modern 
inventor, or supposed inventor, of the process 
referred to in my paper, had not only " a right to 
a patent," but had actually obtained one ; and, 
for aught I know to the contrary, may be still 
working it, though it would appear that he could 
not protect it from invasion. " The glorious un- 
certainty of the law" extends, I presume, to 
patents ; and he must be a bold man, indeed, who 
can satisfy Ci^arrt that any patent is infallibly 
secure. The danger is certainly not over as soon 
as it is registered. Douglas Allport. 

Spurs in the House of Commons (2"** S. xii. 
37, 97.) — On referring to my copy of the Nobility 
of (he British Gentry, which I bad not with me at 
the time I wrote my reply, I am quite of P. P.'s 
opinion that by "military members" is meant 
" those who sit in the military capacity of knights 
of the shire." I am curious, however, to know 
whether it would be a breach of etiquette for a 
knight or baronet who represented a borough to 
appear in the house in spurs ? J. Woodward. 


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CONTENTS.— S«. 196. 

NOTB0:— PtfoehiaUnt BHriuid: OorawmU. Ul— TIm Re- 
Kiit«ri of the StvAumert* QomiMUiy, 14S~- A General I4(e* 
nay Index. 144— Hieroglynhics of the Bed Indiana, 145 
— ■ Oronwell's Place of Burud, lb. 

IflNOB Notes : — Interlarding a Piece of Bacon — Edgar of 
Wedderlifi — The Elder — Parish Registers — A Death 
Eiug— X>rcaB in the Irish House of Commons— Anthony 
Askew, M.D.— Patrick Brontfe, 146. 

QUBBIES:— Alleged Treasons of John Hawkins, 148 — 
Aerolite — Abraham Bagnell, M.D. — Bishops' Seala — 

' George Borches — William Henry OampboU — Thomas 
Gongreve — Richard Parrar *— Robert Firman •- Ohristo- 
pher Monk— Descendant of Sir Isaac Newton— Travels 
of Nieaader Nuoius— Paracelsus : Was he a Prophet P — 
Old Scriptural P^tbg — Sankcjn of Bedfordshire— 
William Shackspere. 148. 

QuBBUifiriTff AKSWBASt— Profosflor Jameson -^Prideaux 
Portrait — " Pie open'd " — Jute, 150. 

REPLIES: —Anthem. 161— Lieut. Wm, Dobbe, R.N., 158 

— Oeraon's Tract aigiiist the Roman de la Rose, 163— 
King John's First Wife, /6.— Legend of the American 
War, 164 — The Oeorgiad — Lord Chancellor Steele: Sir 
Richard Steele — Hordus, • " Historia Quatuor Resrem 
Anglie** — Soottidsms — Viear of Tottenham — Ero^ika 
BibUon — Watson's Life of Porfaon : SBIN02 — The Pillory 

— John de Sutton, Lord Dudley — Edward I. and Llewelyn 
Prince of Wales— Who was James Chalmers t — Anthony 
Henley — Soaflbld — Agas, Bmjamin. DanieU Edward, and 
Radolph — Ab : Aber — Roseberry Topping — Salt given 
to Sheep— Robert Myhie— Richard Termor — Edward 
Morris, 155. 

Notes on Books. 



The followingList of the Rectors of Blisland 
may possess some interest to the readers of *^ N. 

John Balsam - - - diod 1410. 

John Carthaw - - • inttitnted 1420. 

John May - • - n 144«. 

Thomas Frost - - - n 1489. 

Jolm Reed - ' - i, 1499. 

John Oliver - - - „ J506. 

Thomas John - . . ,, 1529. 

Nicholas Stowell - . - ,, 1581. 

WUliam Parker, S.T.B. - „ 1601, 

HeoryLookett.D.D. - • „ 1626. 

George Kendall, D.D. - - „ 1643. 

Ch«rl£s Morton - - » 1655. 

Phillip Dinham - - .i 1660. 

John bell - • - M 1709. 

Stephen Hickes - - „ 1718. 

William Pye . . . „ 1780. 

Francis W.Pje - - „ 1834. 

This list is not so complete as I hope, at some 
future time, to make it A church existed here 
at a Terv early date, I belieye before the Con* 

2 nest, althouffh no mention of it Is made hi 
^omesdaj. -An old font which, two jears ago, I 
discovered in the churehjard, appears to me to 
be of Saxon character. Some of the masonry of 
the church is also very rude and of the same type. 
In the Taxatio of Pope Nicholas (a.d. 1291) it 
appears under the name of the church of " SliS' 

Um^' and is taxed at 6/, In these circomstanoes, 
I hope, at a future time, to add to the lUt the 
names of some of the earlier incumbents of the 

I am not aware of the date of the institution of 
John Balsam, He died in September 1410, as 
shown by his sepulchral brass affixed to a large 
slab of granite in the chanoel of the church. He 
is represented vested in alb and chasuble. The 
inscription is rem^kable for the omission of the 
date of the day of the month on which he died, 
although the remainder of the legend is complete. 
It will be observed that there is an intervaj be- 
tween the death of Balsam and the institution of 
Carthew. The name of the intervening incum- 
bent I hope to be able to supply. From 1420 the 
list is complete to the present time. 

The continuance or Thomas John as rector 
from 1529 to 1581, through the whole period of 
the Reformation, is very curious, especially as 
compared with the disturbance which took place 
during the time of the Great Rebellion, which 
produced three changes in seventeen years. Dr. 
Lockett was, I believe, deprived in 1643. The 
last five incumbents show a remarkable instance 
of clerical longevity, especially the three latest. 
I am not aware of another instance of an eccle- 
siastical benefice having been held by three per- 
sons for a period of 142 years, one of them being 
still alive and comparatively a young man. This 
absence of change in the government of the 
church was the cause of the continuance of several 
old church customs now fast falling into desue- 
tude. Up to the institution of the present rector, 
it was the custom for the old people of the parbh 
to make obeisance to the altar before gomg to 
their seats. All turned to the east on reciting 
the Creeds, and the sermon was always preached 
in the surplice. In the ceremony of marriage the 
betrothal took place at the chancel step. The 
sexes were separated in the church, and this in a 
somewhat remarkable manner. About the begin- 
ning of the present century the old open benches 
were removed, and the church was pewed, in 
some places, with large square pews, which were 
appropriated, in conunon, to men and to women 
respectively. About thirty years ago a person 
from a distant part of the county took some 
premises in the parish. On the first occasion of 
attending divine service with his wife, not know- 
ing the custom of the church, he accidentally 
went with her into one of the women's pews. 
This was considered a great outrage of public 
decency, and caused no little stir in the parish. 
So strong was the feeling in favour of the pro- 
priety of this vrangement, that on the erecting, 
some fifty years ago, of a meeting-house in the 
village green, the same system was adopted, and 
is, I beheve, still carried out there, as well as in 
the church. {Ecdenologist, ii, 166.) 

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The charch is dedicated to St. Frothifu, who 
was commemorated on llth September. When 
the change of style took place in 1753, it will be 
remembered that it was enacted that — 

<* The natural daj next immediatelj following the 
2nd September, 1752, shall be called and reckoned as the 
14th day of September, on&itting the eleren intermediate 
nominal daje of the Calendar." 

Consequently, in this year, there was no St. Fro- 
thius*8 day. The good people of this parish were 
not inclined, however, to yield up their village 
feast in obedience to an Act of Parliament : they 
therefore determined to observe the same day as 
had been accustomed, although now called the 
22nd September, and have continued to keep the 
22nd until the present time. This might have 
done very well^ for the year 1762, but by con- 
tinuing to keep the 22nd afterwards, they per- 
petuated the error which the alteratioa of the 
Calendar was designed to correct. I pointed this 
out to the rector some time ago, and I learn 
from him that he has brought the subject before 
his parishioners, with a view to the error being 
corrected, although some difficulty exists, as the 
farmers consider that the earlier observance of 
the day may interfere with the operations of 

I shall be very much obliged if the readers of 
"N. & Q," can give me any information re- 
specting the personal history of any of the above- 
mentioned rectors. I know, of course, all that is 
said of Dr. Kendall in Wood's Athenm and Dr. 
Walker's Sufferiiigs^ ^c. 

I shall also be glad to know who St. Frothius 
was ? Is there any other church in England, or 
elsewhere, dedicated to him f Perhaps Da. Rock 
will be kind enough to give me some information 
upon this point* JoHir Maclbah. 

(^Continued from p. 102.) 
20 Sept. [1588].— John Wolf. Entered to him 
for his copie &c. a newe ballad intytuled Peggies 
Complaint for the Death of her WiUye [no sum]. 
[It is not likely that this funeral ballad had any rela- 
tion to the recent death of Sidney; bat it is oerUin, as 
Todd maintained, and as Davison's Poetical Bhaptodie, in 
its various editions, 1602, &c. (though not referred to by 
him) establishes, that the anther of the Arcadia was 
known by the pastoral name of Willy.] 

Ulf* die Septembr. — John Wolf. Allowed to 
him a ballad intituled of The Valiant Deedes of 
Mac Cabf an Irishe man [no sum]. 

5 Octobr. — Tho. Nelson. Entred for him certen 
poeses upon the playinge Gardes .... vj^. 

[Probably verses illustrative of the playine cards then 
in use, and perhaps printed upon them. We are not 
aware that any English pack ct cards of this date has 

been prasarved: at a later period they were nvmerons, 
and frequently contained engravings applicable to the 
public events of the day.] 

£dw. Aggas. Entred unto him for his copie a 
ballad &c entituled Bameie^e FareweU to hie late 
Lorde and M^ ^therle of Leicester, whiche departed 
this Worlde at Comburye the iiij^ of September^ 
1588 vj«. 

[Lawrence Ramsey had doubtless been one of the re- 
tainers of the Earl, and thus commemorated his Lord's 
decease. See also Stew's Chron., ed. 1605, p. 1259, where 
he mentions Leicester's hospital founded at Warwick, 
and not many years since repaired and restored. Ramsey 
was a venifyer ten years before the date of the above 
entry ; for he then wrote and published a broadside^ no- 
where noticed, on the death of Sir Nicholas Bacon. We 
give the full title of this curiosity fW>m a copy now before 
us : A Short Diteoune of Man's fatall End, with an tm- 
fayntd Commendation of the Worthineste of Sjfr NichoUu 
Bacon, Knight, Lord Keeper^ the Great Scale of England, 
who deeeated the zx day of February, 1578. The colophon 
is, ** Imprinted at London for Timothy Ryder." Ryder 
was also the publisher of Ramsey's PracHae of ike Demi, 
n. d., mentioned bj Ritson, Bibliogr. Poet, p. 809., where 
also the entry relating to Lord Leicester is quoted.] 

xvij* die Octobr. — Jo. Wyndett. Allowed unto 
him for his copie a booke intytuled The Bleesed' 
nee of Brytayne vj*. 

[By Maurice KyiBn, and published by John Windet 
with the date of 1587, 4to.] 

xviij^ die Octobris.— Mr. Raphe Bowes, Esq'.