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rnXTF.XTS.— N« 105. 

*!?&: — AT .1 Neivsp»|w>n. 1 — John Pym, 8 

An Vnv' '-nt hy llcvi Swifl. 4 — Junius 

I * — .i> ti.f Towi^r, 76.— Eivrly Noii<v' 

'ill lLli>ni(^ fill ^^'llH> oiid 

" : uti till* Ifratli of I.nnl 

t)ti ]>oriI Uyrou Mud Sir 

-I — Went her I-'rriUction ; 

' vnt Fariii)iou»o — I'opuUir 

- - .:ii.n. 

il - Bi'll Tawni, King Str«t. Vcstoiimiter — 
— fcrpliih EiifCTBTT^— "Thft Fnrt'^t Scliool 

WagMUM'" - Ht'iiry II.- Hfl, ■ " '■ . ■. Wilt- 

•birc — " Leal -' »r " — L«) tli' .n tlie 

Pkll of Cni)>tfli tii.cpir — 5tT "laU — 

Bforllincr rL-ditrrttr — i i ■ ..', snii 

Bnuilfth Armadn - (.'nr. , Trm- 

lf»e« on "Tyihrs"»'ul ..iiworili 
Porlralta— JAjiiCA \VL.t.:._\, ii. 

QuKSJxa wiin ANiWBiis:— Two Loyal Xoblomen — Dr. 
Wwtcn— Ma^^ia Cbarta, &c. of Hear)- III. — Apoitolic 

Cunera, tO. 

REPLIES: - Oain9l)OToti-hV "Bluo Boy" 17 — Tlio Dao- 
it. /6.-"F»U" for " Au- 
s MSS. — Doutiltia aod 
* .-M :iii'1 >'ir>t Publication ef 

'. -.cripHoiiw — Vulf-an 
1 of tUii WorU ■' As- 
i/i<h «.r I v.. iiiuc— "Tlirt-e LadiM 
Olil Frftn.-h Wortlfi— llcwcs: Pltlliye 
I r— Tlie PUnue "Dear mo" — £nglUh 

A'.-,, iil. 

>'oU-5 on Book>, A*. 

A hinum; uf dld nkwspapeks. 

ire lately met with a flm«ll parcel of old 
rt«, in the shape of thirty numbers of the 
Puckd, for the yem* 1721. This paper 
to be oif uncommon occurrence, as I du not 
\*\ a single number in the Hope Collection Rt 
- !. and it is seldom mentioned by writers on 
■ anuera und ctistnma of the last centui*y. 
lis bein^ (rninted, I hnvo atrunjjr together a few 
:tractB from my bundle which nitty perhaps 
iu« the readers of " N. & Q." for tv poaaiog 
iment vrhiUt r»?stiuff from (aaver studios. 
Fint of rr-yally. A paragraph carnp'injr us back 
th« Eternal City maue^ the loUowjjig announcc- 
;nt : — 

** Kotnc. Jan. 4. — Ou the Blit n chapel wob held, bving 
firat Vmbpj Serrieo for the Fcaat of the Clreamci- 
I, It which the Aacrvd CoIIt^e were present : In the 
of lh« ScrTlco, i\\n Cnnlinn!* wfre sammonVi to 
•t the Labonr nf IIh; Vi'i ii wki, who wax 

to U«d of a fion ai tw< . ; iho pro^nco 

Peroona: Cardinal All;., . -■■.'■ tJie P(>p« an 
SLecmmt of the Matter, and ttierutipoti the Artill«rv of 
th«JJa*tl* of St. Anei'lo w*ro thrir** dii<«'lniryd, and hifl 
'■ ^1 ith a Xoto of 

I valiifllile I're- 
i presented llie 
ld«f w-iih tt ii«l» CtiiiiMiii Velvet Oown, embroider "d 
Kn'd with Fan, which ihc Caidinul hod twcn pre- 
" with frorn thii t'/itr i.f Masrovy. The Ui^bop of 
rrfnrm'il th<: Haplibiiial Functiun iu the J*re- 
iChapvl; the child wad nam'd CbAflcs-Edwud- 

Lewis .rohn Casbnlr-Silrp^tro- Kach Cnnjinal pfivc 20 
Pistoltfl to the Midwife, and every one of the ladua lU. 
It u HLid Uic Pretender biu duclnr'd the Midwife a 
Count ws." 

There is flomething so comical iu the idea of the 
ui'-mbers of the *' sac ret! college" leaving their 
rclitrkixia dutif« to rush into the presence of ft 
sufterinfT woman, utum an ocofwion lilce the pre- 
sent, that we can narHIy keep nur cotintenanoe 
whiUt ri*ading tlie paragraph. The young prince, 
of course, waa the Pretendt-r of '45 colebnty. 

By A singular coincidence the same paper, of 
only a few weeks later, records another event of 
f\ »>imilnr kind having considernble bearing upon 
that just quoted : — 

"On SfltonUy tlip 15th Imtant [April], n tittle aftor 
seven o'clock in thrl^vcnini:, her K"yntIli;.'hiiM'thePriu- 
rwaof W'ulcj wa-4hapiiily dellvt-rM nfu PriiiLVat Ijui-.-fistflr 
House, there betnt; then pruitviit tii the Kitom his Koyal 
Ui;;hne^ the Prtuce of Wales the l)ulchofc4e« of Doreet 
and Shrcw!>bury, lIil' Cuud t(^'>5ei( of PentbrikcGraatbam, 
t'owper, and llri.itol, LadieArif her Rnyal Iiighne.wV Bcd- 
chumlwr, the Cuunless of PlcUoiir;,'. the \Voinen of her 
Royal Hichnw*'s Ued-chamber, :>ir Dnvid n:imi1tuii, 
and Mn. Crane, tbc Mi<lwite, who laid her Koyal liigh- 
neas," Ac. 

The prince wh'^o birth is thus recorded was 
the Duke of Cumberland, the '* horo of Culloden," 
or, a* we prefer callinj^ him, " Rilly the Butcbor." 
The midwife upon thi'* occasion was not raised to 
the pecrajni ! The |mpcr for Suturday, May 2(^ 
records merely that — 

"Mn. Crane, the Midwife. hovini; received the Thanks 
of the I'riniv and I^rinec.vt, and tiie luual PreMcnLs. took 
her Lrnre of tkuir Koynl Hij:line««!!*, tn onler to rstam 
Home to St. EdmuudVBury in SulTulk." 

Leicester House, in whieh the event took place, 
vrtiA for many years a myal residence. M hen the 
Prince of Wales, alterwards George II., fjuar- 
relled with bis father in 1717, hr ^*^^^ "P ^** 
abode here. The mnuMon. de.<cribed in 1773 sfl 
"a larpe old brick bnildinp with a court-yard 
before it/' wn-» pulli'd down in 1M0<I. 

We have still another evt-nt connected with 
royalty worth llio quotin;^. The paper for .Tuly 16 
thus mentions a ro^al visit to n celebrated place 
of entertainment : — 

"')n Satunluy list the Prince nnd Prim-tiw of Wales 
dined at BcUisc Uoum near nainpsleod. their own 
Cook-i t>ein^ there to drew the DJntier for their Ituyal 
lUghne-iHW 'and their Ketinue, nfterwurd'- thev saw'tbfi 
Diver^iutiJt of thu Pluee. particularly that of £>et'r hunt- 
ing. Atid were well plonn'ij therewirh ; aud at their going 
away were very liberul to the Scrvant.t." 

It certainly would strike us as rather odd to 
read of our Prince and Priucese of Wales going to 
Roahe^^•iUe or Crenjorne to see the eporta oudJ 
partake of antral dinner. These <dd yewapape* 
notices are valuable, if only to chronicle the 
changes that have taken place in our uanneis and 

BeUize bouse and groigida (the site of which 



H*^ S. V. Jaf. 1. 

is i^ow covered with n mass of bricks and mortar) 
hod recently been opened, at this date, as a place 
of public entertainment. It was ori«rinaUy the 
residence of Sir Armigal Waad, clerk of the 
council to Henrv VIII. and Kdwanl VI., the first 
KngUdhman who made discoveries in America. 
He died at Bolsize, June 20, 15C8, and was buried 
in the parish church of Ilampstead. After pass- 
ing through various hands (including Thomas 
Lord Wotton, son of the first Earl of Chester- 
field) the house and grounds were leased, in 171$, 
to Charles I*ovev» the well-known " promoter and 
apeculisf In 1720 it was opened as a place of 
public enterttunmcnt by a person named Ilowell, 
who, from his humour, was stvled the " Welsh 
Ambassador.*' In the original advertisement (a 
lATQ hand-bill) Belsize is announced to be open 
for the season, " the park, wilderness, and gar- 
dens being wonderfully improved and fitted with 
variety of birds, which compose a most melodious 
and delightful harmony." I'ersons inclined to 
'J walk and divert themselves," we are informed, 
<•' may breakfast on tea and coffee as cheap as at 
their own chambers." The loneliness of the 
locality is provided agunst by an announcement 
that " twelve stout fellows, compleatly armed, 
patrole between Belsize and London." 

The precautions taken by the worthy landlord 
of Belsize were certainly necessair, if we may 
jndge only by what we read in the Weekly Packet, 
In the paper for Feb. 11 is a paragraph recording 
the execution of seven malefactors at Tyburn, 
"four for robberies on the hif?hway.*' Thomas 
Cross is said to have been a hardened reprobate 
** glorying in the robberies he had committed." 
He boasted that he and Spiopott " had once at 
10 o*clock at night robb*d one hundred passengers, 
whom they took out of several waggons that fol- 
low*d in a' train : and that they set the passengers 
in a row along the road, and robb*d and counted 

The year 1721 gave full employment to the 
pillory.' Among the numerous cases mentioned 
m our papers, the following is worth notice : — 

"On Thnraday limt [Feb. 15 j Mr. Mist, tlio Printer of 
one of the Weekly Joamals Mootl in tlic rillorv atChnr- 
iaj{ Cro*5, as he had done ou the Mondny before at the 
Roval Kxchaii;;e, pursuant to hij Sentence in the Court 
of Ring's Bench, for having reflt^ctel, in one of his Papcr-t, 
on the King's interposing; in IWhalf of the Protestants 
in the Palatinate. It was ohitervM that he met with 
;;ood Quarters from the Miib, nothing being thrown at 
him at either of those Places." 

Mist, sufFering for conscience' sake, was mildly 
treated. Such was not the case with graver 
iffenders. Remember what Gay says : — 
*♦ WhAi elevated it'er the piping' cnnvd, 
('la«p*d in the board, the perjar'd head it bowM, 
Betimes retreat ; here, thick a-i hail:>tDneA pour, 
Tumit»» and half-tiatched eggs— ftminglod shower — 
\nion^ the rabble rain ^ some random tlirow 
II."iy, with the trickling yolk, thy check o'erflr.T." 

At the present time, when there is such a rei 
less disregard of the pen that any scribbler ii 
journal or newspaper may by its scratch cai 
months, nny years, of pain to a sensitive mind 
would a revival of this ancient punishment 
undesirable P I venture to think not. 

Among the books "just publish'd," T. Kcb 
ton, "at the Crown in Paternoster How,'' a 
nounces — 

"The Itlunderful Blunder of Blunders: Being 
Answer to the Wonderful Wonder of Wonders, 
whicli i^ added a Prologue to Hippolytus, spoken bi 
IJoy of Six Years OM. iiy Dr. Sw— ft " ; 

and a work upon a subject that has been coil 
dered in modem times — 

*'ScaM>nablo Ci^nsiderations on the Indecent and Di 
geroua Custom of Burying in Churches and Churchyard 
Wherein is prov'd That thw Practice is contrary to . 
Nations in the World, is of late Inreution, begun tk 
Pride, improv'd by Superstition, encouraged for Lnc 
and it very fatal in Case of Infection.'' 

Among the prints, "Thomas Bowles," next tl 
Chapter House in St. Paul's Churchyard," lu 

"A Monument dedicated to Posteritr, ia Commemor 
tion of the incredible Folliea transacted in the Year ITJ 
Invented by Mr. Picart, grav*d by Mons. Baron"; 

, and 

j »* A Print, representing the Throe grand Temptotioi 
I viz. the Pride of the Churchman, the Am.bition of Prion 
I and the Paradise of Fools; with a Poem upon theMiU 
! Crown, and lloop-PetUcoal.'' 

I The breaking up of the celebrated " South S< 

' Bubble " is well illustrated by the present bat^ 

I of newspapers. In the number for January i 

j we read that " Mr. Robert ICnight, Cashier oft! 

South Sea Company,*' after being examined I 

: the House of Commons, "went away from 1 

' habitation to some foreign land, as is jrencrsl 

supposed." A roval proclamation was immed 

atelv issued for ^is apprehension, with a rewai 

of 2000/. " Soon after, ' wo are told in the san 


'* Sir John Blunt, Bart., Sir John Lambert, Bart.,S Fellows, Bart., and Jacob Sawbridg*, Esq^ Dire 
tors of the South Sea Company, were taken iota tl 
Custodv of the Serjeant-at-Arms attending the Honoa 
able House of Commons; and the two latter being Ucn 
bers, were also expell'd the House.'' 

Bowles, the print-seller, announces in the sun 
paper as " just publish'd *' — 

" A New Pack of Picture Stock-Jobbing Cards, sbtwin 
the Tricks of Stock Jobbers, and Uumoun of 12«h«j 
AHev; with a Satirical F:pigram upon each Card, Pn 
2». t>'c/, 

"A New Pack of Bubble Cards, containing 52 C<WJ 
Cuts of each Bubble; with a satirical Epigram upon" 
S.ime. Both bv the Author of the Southi Sea Sam 
Price 2*. (wi" 

The ballad here mentioned, which begins » 
follow.*, was sung about the streeta of Londoa fti 

♦•5.T. jA3r. I.Trt.] 


tn^thet, and helped not t tittk to bring 
i<WLhjoKtiag ioto ducnsLit : — 

*la LoDdon BUttil' i<\)e. 

Ami nor thit i 

I I low. 

Til* ' 1 Scheme," rectires ample notice 

in l^ il .. ...^ . .;o^W, In Uu nows from Venice 
(te. ^, we read thnt " Mr. Law is arriv'd here 
mHh lus 900 : he keeps incognito at an inn, and 
net by the name of the CbevalitT du JartUn." A 
little liter (March 8), we End kU».'is from Venice 
*^eooflnmnff the report of Mr. Iaw's offering « 
In^ sum of mnnoy to the senate to get bis son 
made a noble Venetian." Piundnjr over Law's 
interricws with the Koraan cnrdinnls, in one of 
which he is told by Cardinnl Alboroni that *' he 
if not qnalifV'd for a etockjobbcr in the conclave/' 
WB read (May 0) that he " has been eeiz'd at 

A paragraph connected with the theatres ( March 
11) poeseaaea more than common interest : — 

•• SiiKs* the Ul« DUturbance nt the ITK-alre In Lincoln's- 
Inn FieliUt Iwo noble reer* haviiifr ivpnr»MiUil tlieir Caw 
U> Ui** GoremincnC, a liuard nf Fwt Soldiers Imlh been 
panlcd ilwm, »iz. A Scijeaut and 12 Men, even- Night 
l1icr|>Uv: this like number do duty at the Theatre in 
I^*'^" ' nnd an Officer and 40' Men at the Opera 

^' Uay-Markei, in regard that hl« Mi^jcaty 

■' , ' Higlmesse* tlo often Honour Lh [3 latter 

rUrt. with ilitir Presence." 

The riot to which Uiis notice refera ocourrcd on 
'#b. L A drunken nobleman boiuj? behind the 
«•, and .«<'ping one of hla compuninna on the 
! itd the insolence to cross the stage in 
J audience, by whom be was roundly 

bjf^^a. Kicb, Ibe mounjjfr, ordered the stnge- 
door keeper not to admit his lordship n^in. The ! 
noUcman resented Ibis by elappin*? the mtmageffl 
face, an nUaok which was imiucdiately returned 
with proper interest. The uoblenian's fricnda now 
took up th»i quarrel witli the nctois. Swords were 
T-and Bcuffle ensued, which ended 
u " being driven into the atreets 
' donr. They tht?n entered the 
;t door, and continued the riot 
y, were taken into custody And 
lagiatrate, who bound them over 
■:S. They, howevHr, widely rnndo 
■i the mnnager got ample redress, 
closed for seven or eight even- 
re-opent'-l Jt was attended, lui 
n toyal jnintd. 

'ur extracts with the Pre- 

'■na ibem to a clofw in the 

t>r July ^!* frivitn the 

iig buthttle credit on 


to lio wht)it. At tc- 

'irr to br han;r*'d, fi»r 



.. u. .L.. .itwive 


** They irril* frim\ O 
an Iri.ihnian rrnn fr 

lleaUh, hv ti-..,.., 

bo Vf&A • 
eeivin^; 1; 
that the ! 
sc«fld«0 > 

told, that u- .^ .. 

Che Laws : so tb« scnicnoc irat executed laat EMiiunU^'.** 

Punishment of all kinds was rrndv ftt band for 
any unfortunate wijrhl who pmfivMrd attachmont 
to th« Stuarts. The pnper for hVb. IH tvlla us 

•'Mr. Clifton, tbo Prfoter, wai Ut«Iy eommltted t*> 
Xewgate for pri^tin^' a tt«N»oaabl« Ballad on th« Birth 
of tbo Pret«ndcr'« Son." 

A few years Inter the jfovcniment relaxed in 
their measurvs towards otfenders of thi4 claas. At 
least the writer of the curious tract entlthnl A 
View of Londtm tmd ffiniminfitrrf or the Town 
•'^.Vi 1 "25, ?nyi : — 

" I can never pass through CranOurn- AUeu, but I am 
astonUhcd at the Koinisanesa ot Leuity uf the MaKi^trattM, 
in anfleringthe Frtindtr** Interest t'o be carry 'a on, and 
promoted in %o publick and «linnierti1 a iTifinner as it 
there b. Iloroa Fellow stni " mi his 

/•ye-comer Pastorals in t- > i-e/y 

Jetamif^ A-o. I have been cri i.. ... .\I411 lia* 

actually in hfj Pocket a Commiaiou under tho /'r»- 
lender'i great Seal, cooAtituttng hint Iiin Hnllad'Sin^cer in 
Ordinar}' in Great Britain ; and that bid L>lttleJ are «o 
well trordn!, that llioy oHi-n imistm tlnj J\!lmh of many 
well-meaning People ; that tliii l'er*on i" luit rnoro in- 
dustrious with his Tongue in behalf of hia Master, than 
others are at the <iarao lime busy willi their Ffiii(*!ia 
among the AudicDCQ ; and (liat the Monii'* ii>IIecltt| in 
tht5 niaiiiicr ore most uf thohe ini^ttty Knnittancei the 
Pott-Buy Ml fi-equontly huasts of being uiado to the 

So much for the present. I shall, perhaps* 
return to these old newspapers at some future 
time. They abound with intorestinjf and trust- 
worthy material, and the pag;e» of "N. Sl Q.'* 
eeem peculiarly adaptfd for giving publicity to 
the minute and cnrious infurmalton tbey convoy. 


Aa vi 


^3 finrt ifaooTtjiii. 


The ftccompnnyinjr elepi- on the death of Pyni, 
Iho celebrated renubiiean, who diodlOb^, i« prinli*d 
on a broadside witlmut date, and in double column 
separated by a black line, and surrounded by a 
border in black more than an inch wido^ aa a slgu 
of mourning. Tbo original hoa been inmrpoR- 
Bossion f'jr many years in a volume of Civil War 
tracts. Edwaru llArLflXOSE. 

florton Hall. 

P'ftnu Oi€ tnucli titmcnteti Dmth uftfml Rertoit-nfii aitd tffr 
tit bf Unnntird Patriftt %%f kit 0'Utitr*v JofiK Fth. 
Kiifuirr, fJemtrnUHl v/tfie Ordttunir, omt n MwhUkt of 
the HommroItU lloutr of (^mmimt. 

It will oot be: our tinna* dnr jd ont-rry 
Our prayvr* ; ai if we alin'd at Mlwry, 


[j'h s. V. j.vx. 1, 7a 

Still we decline; flnd our calamities 

Infiensibly stealc on us by degrees : 

That, being more secure,' our Judgment may 

Appeare more horrid at oar payment day. 

How many glorious Starrs hnve shot of "late 

From the inconstant sphere of our sad State, 

Spangled ere while with happy lights ; from whence 

We hop'd, and found auspicious influence ? 

But now, depriT'd of their rich splendor, we 

Freeze in the shadow of despaire, and die. 

Am I design'd griefes servant, tlmt my Pen 

Thrice Yow'd to silence should be raisM agen ? 

I call no Muse m^ mother : yet am still 

Babling out Elegiack Notes : my Qnill, 

N'ere dipt ia Aganippe, sorrow calls 

To pay its Tribute at sad Faneralls. 

But on I what Muse can lend a straine t' expresset 

The measure of this dayes unhappinesse ? 

What wing may yeeld a quill, which can compose 

Fit Characters of sorrow ? or who knofres 

What kind of sorrow there is fit to be 

Exercis'd at such Scenes of misery ? 

Teares are too common; every petty losse 

Exacts that duty ; every trifling crosse. 

Sighs are poore emptv things ; and aery Verse 

An ornament t' enrich a vulgar Herse. 

Cnlesse we could shed teares of blood ; and sigh 

Our lives breath out unto his memory : 

Or breath our soules forth in sad numbers; these. 

Indeed are griefes fit Ephemerides. 

What lesse can suit the obsequies of him 

Who spent himself for us ? whose eyes grew dim 

In searching out oar buried Liberties : 

Who in pursuance of the Kingdoms peace 

Contracted many deaths ; and by his care 

Purchast diseases : holding nothing deare. 

Advance the publike : who (to speakc in few) 

To save his Countrey his owne body slew ? 

For which bis soulc, translated to the blisse 

Of Heav'n, with Angels there Instated is. 

Where now a spotlesse Samt. he sweetly sings 

Loud Halehijahs to the King of Kings. 

Where he (above the reach of humane sptght) 
Enjoys the comforts of the Son of light. 

Now you bold Imps of fury, who shall now 
Plock" that bright wreath of glor>' from his brow ? 
Who shall receive the Guerdon of his fall ? 
Or preach State-Treason at his Fuuerall ? 
Now you may raile, and curse, and threat, whilst he 
Derides your malice; scomes your tyranny. 
Now you mav lie, and sweare and forsweare too 
To blast his S'ame (more then Hells selfe can doe). 
He, from the glorious Throne of happinesse, 
Laughs at your poore revenge, and gladly sees 
The booke of Conscience spread before his eyes : 
Where all the actions, which your perjuries 
Call Treason and injustice, he beholds 
Flourish'! with glorj' in bright lines of Gold : 
Presented there, unto the God of Peace, 
Most perfect, through his Saviours worthynewe. 
There rests his Koule, his body let us lay ' 
With moumfull tryuraphs in its bed of clay ; 
About which since pale death, by fates decree* 
Hath drawn the Curtaines of Mortality. 

That after ages may this losse bemoan; 

Trouble the Herse with this Inscription. 

Just Liberty against Prerogative : 

That scorn'd (his Country* perishing) to live. 

That durst impeach the bosome favorite 

Of 's Prince and against greatnesse maintainc right. 

That hated Honour bought with flattery : 

And did the favours of a King deny. 

To keep his faith with Heav'n; that dar'd profesae 

Virtue, in tli' age and Land of wickednesse. 

That singly durst make power : doe any thing 

AllowM by Heav'n ; and this against a' King. 

This did be; yet, with this he did maintainc 

A soule so Loyall to his Soveraigne, 

That had a Trayterous thought but mor*d within ; 

There it had judg'd and executed bin. 

A Man so pood, that t'was imputed to him 

A sin, and that alone which did nndoe him. 

Full fraught with Wisdome, Virtue, Gnccv 
Of parts admtr'd; of gentle race. 
A Noble mind, a pious heart. 
Humility, with great desert. 
Curtene, bounty, innocence, 
A pleasant wit, voyd of offence. 
Here lyes in short whatever can 
lie caVd perfection in a Man. 
All these lie here compriz'd in one ; 
(Alasae) where shall they harbour now bee's gone ? 

[There are two other Elegies as broadsides on John 
Pym, one "Printed by lohn Hammond according to 
order." This appeared on Dec. 10, 1643. It comnaencM 
"Hath Fate and Time conspired to send thee Death"; 
and is followed by "An Acroatick on his name," and 
** An Epitaph." The second commences ** What S«cr^ 
Ijght is this ? What glorious Guest," and was Issued on 
Dec. 15, 164.3. The one furnished by our correspondent 
was published on Nor. 18, 1643.— Ed.1 


The following characteristic letter by the Dean 
of St. I'atrick's is from the Morning Herald of 
October 11, 1827. I do not find it in either 
Sheridan's or Scott's edition of his worka. Ter- 
hape, if it has not already been gathered into any 
collection, and if it is not too lonpr, you will find 
room for it. C. W. SunoN. 


Here lyes the Pillar of the English State ; 
The Peoples violent love ; their greatest hate. 
His (Tountreys Patriot : ReKgions friend : 
Lawea Champion : one that dared to defoid 


" All we have for it is our little sow." 

Trag^y, Lady Jane Grey, in her speech. 
Gentlemen and others— Having happened in my time 
to converse but very seldom with persons of your profes- 
sion, and having the good fortune not to embarrass myself 
much (during the course of my ministry) about the cure of 
sonls ; and truly in a kingdom where liberty of conscience 
(that is ininuifr) is established by law, I judged that a 
curate had little more to do in a churcfi than a master of 
ceremmiieB in a covrtj to conduct people in, and then to 
lead them out agam ; but that they might do their own 
boiineflfl themmlves which way they pleased, if they had 
any to do ; 1 hope I may be excused in the following exhor- 
tation from using the words coiwcience or (^urckt Heaven, 
or RsLL, Section and rtprobation, or any secret known 
teTMt of artt and tnm teazing yoo with the diffnity of your 
office, which yon yoarselvea mn indoatriotu «ioit^ to bla- 

**k & V. Jav. I, TO.] 


end extol, fTT from («<]UBn tiering nwuy ynur pAt j«n<!c iti 

ttimff yi(« befitrr ;/i.-ur timr — fir*l. irith neofr^ilv' uf. 

tfaen. Nsromily, veiih llu*. dancer of nnt. Ji»chorgin(; 

youz poMtonii corf, like men of liotmur, aiul htn leavn to 

dear up itll point* to you of much n<*arercoiiceni, ami of 

greftUr im|»orUiicc. As t" your hoUili/ ncraintf, by what 

obMTVACiiiiiA I havr bM>n alile to nirikr^of you, tliRrenoftl!) 

I... I i;..(., ... i,p ^\,\ t0 y,,u upnn lliifl i^ubjwl: only ii.ivit 

iiut to yon — tomann:;t:yourrr/rr</imrMf alter 

r, as unt In incur thi- tfiitm yoar fi^pt, nr to 

ii nbctminililr h'-niluTiiiti eii»t'm» uf wt-jiiiiig 

)rryin\i s hf'ttle J nn»r. M\- particular ov«r- 

' or an uglvjluf U very wtjll kn*'wn, inscjinueh 

I gwnrH the prarf nf^ttir.Ht \\\c nmlUjn anprrt 

.rof Ibiflcity, abt^ut the time that King U'M- 

/■- "i^ftmcw., I liaH lif^rn pnt ont of rumitv- 

nu T my lifr — if nnt rtiudt quire tUnri. 

....,- .. iLl'tncn, are noi mbiet and ttirbuncfcM, 

Ml In- way of bfanty.on Ihfoutwan] n'w^r Jirectly 
■g»jii»t th** r»MM"t which ft)rbi<ls any oma«ient« on tlic 
JL-<. ■ ipt, flic. For I oni sure llie face 

it "ifi, i( I tindt.Titnnil nnytliinfcnf 

*T- . _ '. I'll Ii-ftt'o it to your own con- 

n whfibrr you'll prretst jin?- loi](;rrrth«.«to brunk 

. I rimrt'h dUripllnc. !t Vitlif onl of 'H'pilt'*. tht-fC- 





' tltid piuliiliiLicii. iiut Iri niernLn'At 
■ of the former') that Tou drink not any 

' '' ' ■ ipt not 

. Ijut lu 

I ■ ■ 1 .lid port 

iliird thi^ jhit.; Hltiftl iL-tidn U)»! lo the Other 

•wl to (li5coarEc nn, and that ia the pni^r in 
uul a Iciinicd friend amonprt our HiMMCKting 
hu Hi fully trofltpi! op(in thi» bend, thr fift, in 
• disooUTM calM Surf t'rwtin^ — that I don't thiiik iiny 
Wtablbhed ponon has ever uut-gono — m I'll only advl?e 
TOB to keep pact with hui ar^^umcnts and ever io cnn^iilt 
mm upon tli« mbject of tUppittg. 

As 1*tT y*n>T officft 1 don't think it polite to iosijit an 
rigidly 9-^ uvuiu on the words iacrca J'unctwm, Jbnfal 
Prid/tkiMMi, Afabat»adort fr^ift ffeavrn, Ktnpn wpirilHol, 
a&d tlie like ; and f>>r my part, ^nce the world will buvo 
it to. think it more tlian r-juuufrnt (hat, in lieu of lhi«.e 
•Ifff dutinclioa^ the laity iiOmita you on a iewi with 
tbODKlvea, and lets ym f<mol;c a pipe, or erode a ^eai, 
vithout ctnture or di-HLc. Jtut, however, ^inro it is tit 
to tw «fn'nu«, now and Mk-u J am to advi!>« yun, in th» 
Iitur;i;ryt be 4urc to read :ia tnltmnly aa if yon rraJ/y pmyed 
bearttly, and for lioD's soke not to let tho people f/r«p 
ibore half an hour in their jra^v, when you are flrtitmtng 

Alxmt pnHticM I need not luiv moch to you; nom-n^ 

mMtiitu-f awA t'titairt' obtdimctyAW cnrry nd safe thrungh 

lila in the world. An KingH (,'o, onr 

.i< any Kin^ of them all; nay, we ar« 

/ 'fhtr, and thcTefore I humblr ftd- 

i-t thr hipfifr poititrt. Xo iloubt 

i 1 ' I -T another to rei^n over uji, and 

-.^ a t_'|iri.-<tian duty; but there can be no 

rhcn fi ihini; ih at an icsti ; bositW^, otmeiv- 

* ' "' ' \Vhnt a d— l.B^Mrald 

"V< and hUtctihtniia 

i;i't wti that i have 

all at onor^ U the 

don't know but I 

ML wnmft, when the 

nnt* mind, if 1 sul- 

' -as the world doesV 

, the ooutrarr is wild and mad : 

ainei^ then, I can^t convince my con torn pom rie?, 1 am a^eA. , 
r'.aoh-rd thiy lihAlI oonrince me. As tor \ou, my Urotlircn^ 
now IB your very time to taise my advice. Your Mctro- 
poHtau (who has been ever tenacious on the Aide that ia- 
rifiht at prewnt) Is now abwnt. Send one unnnimoiw 
%*o)Icy of convdr.'Hion out of tho pulpit next SuntUty, ta 
show that it i.« your own at;t nitd iltwJ, luid uot inUTtat, 
or nrer-i«r»ua«ion from your spiritual CoIoohI. As for 
honour itnd 'ennafremejil.-* to a rartain injured foroien 
voath ; L'Mid, why shouU! yn\x havo any for him ? llo 
has none himself; and an la the t>rvac-h of f^acrcd tiei^ 
and vows amongst younwiv&s to uphold, stand by, and 
aW^t one another, there ii notTiint; ia it now. /'// trri/e a 
fkiprr to juttify you ; when public jrftriury was warrant- 
able, breach of private faith can never be u '.'rime. There 
i» a sayinjf in " Miromftim tir fnbrint MutuH," cap. .\ 
par. a, lino Id, cum rtio Jicri tiluptid dcdigmatvr, id 
t/rMtfM $apirtia stalimnt debet: fadtitduin id^ ifurtd fieri 
pattat — that in, I^'eu drive the nnd that will ^i. Oiryto- 
Worn Wiut against tbo world, and the world a^atiut Chrji- 
anrtiim; hnt, I think thU too grf^at oddtt for a t'ler^'y that 
don't /prnk Greek. Hark ye, 'ti* a damned rliill -limple 
thin;; to h« the same thing* always. Chim^ uf niiiid is 
iiB bciiUbfuI to the coasdcnco. and necei^at}' to the well 
lH>in^ of our inffliit man, oa the change of weather ia to 
the hfiillh of the l>ody. and pi-oduL-inpC of ihe fruilH of the 
i-arth tu comfort and regale the outward. 7W< tcomen^ 
indeed, pretcndod to he $emiier eadem ; one of them I 
knew, Coii rent her toul ! Ntver woman mado chamgtg 
iir> nhe did ; and tn carry on tho humour, just as Ahe waa 
pdn,< to miike ojwMcr, iihe r/uuiycc/ a corruptible crown 
i'-'X I hnuir ,%•{ u'ltat. But nuw WO MOM iievcf iirctcnd to 
these tliiii|4s ; I would no more live without the privilege 
of di«i:ardin^' an uldt^iuitm, than I would of turning off aa 
oid xfrvant, which, let ine t<*II you, If you duii*t tioiuetimea 
do, they'll Iwth be your masters. I once compared con- 
tcimee (eapocially a tender roftst^ieuce') to a /wir uf 
brrxhea, which are sotni'tiinea Itt down {a ease one'f* self. 
I'ray suffer me now tu compare it to an hooped prtthoat, 
which Is caaily taktu up to caw one's self too. Now, «m- 
»cifncf^ Idt, is like an hooped p^tticoai, becoubu uf its 
eiattic virtue, whereby it coutractA and dilates as orrujioa 
Fwrvea; and thia if conicionco cannot do, coosciencc is of 
no UK or value al all. '2il. becauioe of it^ cvmpoattwtt^ bcinff 
roads of /i«mp ojuI u-haleboite. Tht latter shows it should 
brmd without firenking; the former, that if you won't 
oftiii stretc/i it, you may chance to utrrlch for it. And 
ad, from its great capacity, wherein are contained tbinga 

lawjui and urdairfui^ rietin and unclean, I'rav, CCHtlo* 
men, connirler the whole universe about you. la anjr 
thing the Ramo for one moment, hat a narcel of anil ea 
fixed fElar5, which the rest of the orbs roU away from as 
fast oj* they can, refusing to keep them company? I 
have often wondered at our /joe/^ for not making an 
exactcr judtiniont of tliat patturu uf human life, I'ndetta. 
They dcflcribu him lo be no bett*.T than uu Irith putturt' 
matt or a Welch jnck-pudding\ and if they do r aide hi m 
to a Pinlethman or Bulfvck — Ibis ia a compliment of the 
highefit elevation; whereaji, nlai 1 he was really a wia^ 
prudent, Icame-l, and flue gentleman ; he had wit and 
aenso enough cvon to adapt himself to the company h« 
Kept, and to the scene of aifairs which at that prtsent 
untcrtaincd htm. In Framct he would not »tir one (tlep 
out of fiut'uirn jJiiteti in EtHfUind, he Wore red-ied third 
top*; with tho fliifh Chnrrh he iiucjI the forms of c-\cora- 
municition to ciob'-llisih his Insi^urti^^e ; nni thi.i» served in- 
stead f}( tu'eanmrj. With the /pm', bespoke in the hingaflga 
of the /««•, and that pnseed for teaming and liberty ; or ia 
that of thn {■as/iW. and this pas^'trd for reliywn rmd tini» 
When he convurhed with Sifftim. lie appealed like aa 
Alderman\ when with Nepiune, a tea Cuplain; wh 
with Man, a Major of dragoom ; and when with Jxpilcr] 


l4"» & V. Ja:c. 1, 70. 

or VenuM, ^ pretty fellow. And who the devil would not 
be a Proteut; one day high and the otber low^naw 
swparinf;, then singing — Eometimea in a bob'toig^ at others 
in full lenqth an Aldeimon or pareon — a poet or a pretty 
fellow ? id dfemvm uapientxtt ext, rays SttUiut ; and let 
roe tell yon, of all societies, yon are the men who have 
persisted the longest in one old anprofitable and an- 
fashionable humour. What, then, do yon stop at ? Doth 
not all the learned world consent that mutabUiti/ is so far 
tnm being ahaineful, that it is lawful, becauae unavoid- 
able. Horace Mys, " Qmd placet out odio ett, quod mm 
mutabiie crtdaaV* In which case two extremes are to bo 
avoided ; one, in regard to the <^nion you ^it. Then 
observe what a very learned, wise, and ancient authov 
says, " Sanper in rerum mutationibuM eo tpectandiim, ut 
aniiquarum rerum vmbra aKqua retineatur, i, e. DoD*t be- 
come such arrant Whig» as to give up the power of the 
keys too soon, nor don't be flattering the Prince, although 
yon are not allowed to maintain unlimited obedience. 

As to the opinion you embrace^ take heed of ejrceMs here, 
as you were to avoid defeat before, and remember my old 
friend Horace again — • 

" Qui variare cupit rem prodigialiter unam, 
Ddpbinum in Sylvb appingit," &c. &c. 
i. e. Do not, because you condescend to become Low 
Church niCTi, own yourselves Presliyteriemg all at once. 
But why do I dwell thus among heathen authors ? Does 
not a better author bid you '* Be all thing$ to all men f " 
and how will you answer this command, if ye that were 
TarieM under Queeu Anne are not IVhigt under King 
George f Is not the text plain ? Is not the application 
obvious also V But is it not your interest f 

I remember, when things went as I directed, the panona 
wore courted and jnnquetted, were preferred and bribed, 
and bought and sold, and we corrira the day. Ay, and 
so we may still ; but will ye tire the world always with 
the repetition of the same way of reasoning ? No, no, 
change the medium ; variety pleases, and wrangle con now 
what 3'ou wrangled for pro before, pour vons en divertir; 
and to show your good manners and education as well as 
learning. The present set of pretendetUs have held it 
long enough ; they have been more than two years plun- 
dering the great sent, and running aAer its institutions and 

inductions. In short Sm y shall no longer say grace 

at Lord In «, or be witty with the Secretary of H^ar ; 

nor the Hon. L LuttreU tell stories to the Aea</ of the 

Church, and make a certain Admiral die with lanf^hter. 

Dr. B r no longer shall grace If^estmintter Hail, nor 

W 1 dispense opium from W r pulpit, but we 

ahull have all opportunities to try our talents, if we have 
gr;:ce to turn. Begin, then, from this luckv hour, to 
account for the happy change, and seek humility (to help 
your honest endeavour) ; I here present you with a set of 
phrases, fitted to your purpose. 


ST. Patrick's, DunLin. 

The sailor tacks aftou/— the lawyer ««««— the soldier 
fava — as you tcere—face about to the right. You your- 
fjofves may go on in your own established way, and snv 
rf;/>(r»Mfyott will, but the fashionable (w/cra(c(f word is 

The cobbler says thisUist will not do, and if you would 
have a new sole, yon most (whipstitch) pack up your old 
alls, tcQx new creatures, and then you will gain 3'uur ends. 
The tailor says you must take a new measure — the 
brewer, be not heguUed any longer— the baker bids you 
consider that half a loaf is better than no bread, espe- 
cially since your cake has been dough m) long. The saddler I 
thinks, too, that you have hit a pretty while upon the I 

bridle, and that your furniture wants this new reigne. 
Pitpe advises to form one*a muse according to the genius 
of the present times: Lintott thunders "i?crueandbe 
damned to you, if you would have the impreasion go off." 
and swears there is no profl got but by the secimd edU 
tion ; nay, will sometimes encourage a third, and if that 
won't do, a new title-page and index at last. I have seen 
Ingram very rogueishly rub his nose, and retorting the 
inner comer of his right eye, ask a parson that came to 
have his iackct turned — Sir, what triraminfis will you 
have? Slv interrogates what the eyes and the hearts of 
the Tories have felt lately, they are now so very fond of a 
Carolina ? If you go to Sir Christopher jf^rtn's exe- 
cutors, yon may have models for some of the fifty new 
churches ; Mr. King can draw vou a jjlan of principles, 
and Mr. Gibbon, the statuan', will polish your antiquated 
poHtic*. You may learn from the ocean to say — if your 

firinciples won't eofr ant/ ^(T, Aefi£& you. To my know- 
edge, the political barometer was taken from youraelvcs. 
In King James the Second's time, your sublimntinn was 
hig/test ; in King William" s lowest ; at the beginning of 
Queen Anne's moderate hot; at the end burning; con- 
tinued so at the beginning of King George's; tends tu 
moderate again ; will end very cold. 

I have omitted speaking on the head of learning x I 
don't think it a necessary qualification fur you in this 
a^ I am certain you have read lately the whole set of 
Grumblers, and might by this time have gone through 
the Art of Qmtentment. This, with an application of 
yourselves to answer Peter, Lord Bishop of Chrk's book?, 
about drinking heal(bs, and King Willitun^s memonv 
with a competent knowledge of Iphiston's address to all 
the Kings of the earth, will give you reputation ennugli 
this way ; provided vou neglect not the Gazette and iJaify 
Qmranl; for, as to Oooks, though several gentlemen have 
died lately, and left good libraries behind them, yet for 
what use will be made of them in this ceniurj*, ihey 
might as well have token them along with them. The 
little learning that 1 am master of, 1 tell you freely I 
don't know how to dispose of; and when I have venturfff 
to give yon the same advice that I had taken myself, I'll 
relieve yon. I most heartily, therefore, recommend to 
you the single art of punning ; play at it if you intenJ to 
rise ; let it be your study at night, and meditation in th« 
morning, and so bid adieu to Moses, &c. and also to the 
neglected Muses of Gretti Britain. 
" Nee sale pcrfrictus, lepida nee mente beatus, 
Funde snnos similes et dira crepundia vocum.'* — Caio- 
PosTSCKii'T. — To encourage you under this laudable 
carriage, I am to tell you that I design to pay a speeilr 
visit to lAmdon, when I can promise to make your lumos 

I see most plainly the spirit which at present rcii^ns 
there : the_/«w honest men may be rewarded in due time ; 
but number is our argument, and we'll press down tH 
before us. The worst that can happen to me is a hue ami 
cry after me in this place ; but hang you, there is uft 
one amon^i^t 3'ou all {all you subaltern generations "f 
Priests) who can write anything that will live above 
balf-an-hour ; ami as to my English JouxTialist, I'll «'* 
upon him, introduce him to "some of the Zrort/sandDukef, 
and so stop his mouth. 

I can laugh, ridicule, and flatter them into what I 
please; some I'll bamboozle — others I'll drink inU> com- 
pliance— and, in short, whilst panning, wit, and tuipn- 
dence, are above ground, never fear. Pray hold Ja— ky 
Or — n in readiness to follow me ! lie is my Meratnsi 
dulcis. And if M — m comes along with him, the set 1* 
made up at ombre, and we refresh after fatigue. 

So go home, become honest and loyal directlv, sd'J 
leave the rest to me. I bid you heartily farewell, aou 
am yonr friend, brother, and countn^man, 

JoitATHAK Swift. 

<«S.V. Jas.1,70.] 



Tbe annoiiDCftniftiit of nnother work on th*! 
idculiflcjitiim of Junius, nnJ hy mt expert in hnml- 
tenti/ij/, induces me to ofTir for your piigeti ("from 
the Noto-book of na old Iri*:b Lndy ) an nrticlo 
now in mv posaew^ion, which was Avritten ftt the 
time of tifl iiniit Kltcmpt to give to Sir Pliilip 
Jranci* tbt? iuimortal honour of being the author 
of Ihnw c'-'lebrated Letters- an idea which hnd 
ncvrr l>wn sujrg'ested from the time tbcv pea«rd 
in 1773 nntil 1810. Thia is a fact not to bo bat 
^gbt of, wbtn we remember that every man of 
mark or likolihood was pas&ed in reriow. To bsve 
At once taken the broad ^ound of internal evi- 
dence for pefoang to adopt the hyDOthL-tis, is an 
inatnnce of remarkable acumen: tne fll'ty years 
Trbicb have elapsed sinee leave the subject a^ dark 
ftm ever, and the arguments so tersely advancod 
ihrn agmiii-l the claim of Francis are aa suitrd 
Tioir to set it a^ide, and may be acccpuiblo to 
some of your readfrs. Tiie writer was Mr. Dod- 
well Browno of Itahins, co. Mayo, one of the 
many men of rare qofllitics of mind who live and 
die unknown io fame. U. D. T. 

•• *The nmpcror Ki i» certainly th? same wilIi Kb;; 
Atom: fttr if we only changpe ATiiito A, and /into for*. 
Wtt (hall have tbe name Atocr Ami wiih *viu«! ease 
M«uc» may be proved to Le tbe iaroe wiik the Giupcror T; 
thercfora tne Cbloete are a colooy from lil*:ypt.' 


" *'*f all thfi namfei vet hroo^lit forward for Junius, 
^ i-% \w nrhr.te titfi* run lie »Pt JwiJe with the most 
It wns iho opiuion of Dr. John?«ii that tlio age 
lii'-lt pfti'lurtJ Junius did not pve a ."ft^ond mnn C4|ujil 
him — ofir (I wmiM InimMv niMI any nmn : l»y can- 
wr|iii;iicv, all nbo itjioiik tb? ltrili>ti torfio^f have bivn to 
1hi« boar on ibe alert to dlaeover thi« inin«ceniljint 
fli.tli'>r. In tr^ini; a riglit to lliis title, the llr^t point to 
' iIm ■] ' • ;;i,iuty of the prtt^-mWr i and if it be not 
lical writiuf; bo »urpa«»«l nil (inrienl 
L ;l: I ■: i!! .-, 'twere wurse thnn idle to go into , 
I minor »iniilantie.s coijtln^ncicjt, or anecdotes Then 
L liow by thi« xale docs it stand with Sir Philip Francis ? , 
^^■W*' ' *!t.irwilh hi:« carrer from hix enirnncr in the 

^^■Ti 'liiy't and every Mord Ite uttei-cd in that 

HHni „ , ■'■■•!» punp-nt and" .acrid, yet it wn» rated *o ' 

W low by ilir Mini-teria) pnrty ns ncvor to be tJiought 
I wortb an ntuori ation in reply. They »e«med to aay tu 
I him. in f' ' of Borkp, • \\*c ore in purritiit of too 

I noble I icrmin.' 1 bnvf doubt* whetber the 

\ Ti)>' it jt. Ai\^ couM [lUrr I-'ianci.t so high aa ' 

^ <\l\ ; Uii tjfiite sure I ;ini lie ii»rv'or doublfnl tbnt 

all beats, temj>Mt*, and nffraya durltij» his long 
h f fuaoiMi tarv oircer. Not a spark of flra dropped from | 
■|HB4k*t rouid be o^u iatetl with ordinary genius, much 
^^Tp^wth tbl« auporlative meteor. [ 

r .... cop of wciitth, blir-s, and power. ju*t railed to 

-t"m from tbcm, displaced, disbnuoor&l, Ulckcd 1 
L i^>ii>'.- ifom the AntipiMU'*. and ever nttcr left bv each 
■ri|Mlccv««ive ad^lil)i^t^atill^ to langui'^h in obscurity— if i 
^^"tber" TTj^ a stnTr on tbi3 earth to reanimate tbe cau^lic 
" was that in which I-'raneis wni then 

; a ifieal in the ^onute, whrrt be has 
...>■'). Htill fei-biy entl<>n\-ouriu^ to bar«s9 
the Mini-try, f-tr the purpose of bcinp re- 
laitf tut without impreaelon. Thus, from 

yonth and power, ho has sank into a ^rand oblivion 
when in.«alted by tbe Leviathan of India. ITnd Francin 
drown his sword and ovirconie, in bb place wary Jniiias 
would hive i'serfi«d bin pen and overwhelmed bis H^e^ 
aided n5 IieM'as by theadvantagef bit post and nn^^uardcd] 
aniA-'oni'«t prc^senle<i. Now to the minor porntt. Ilia 
liifi^rrcd that, on the discovery of young Juniu* in the 
War Ollbt.', the Minihlry inVtantcr promoted him to 
Ik'ngnl. This is & knock-duwn blow to tbr^ hypntbcsla. 
If Junius .itomi thus di-icovirwl by the Ministry, who ur« 
.1 Inr^re body, and wlien added to their wivc^, cbildrenf 
oud friends, a Ta«t body, the mystery wok revealed : 
at alt cvontA, it would be ao on tbcir rctniat from 
otjice; and it may be naked, what object that Mioiittry 
could have bad iti nhieldiiig him by secrecy. la it 
not morr probable tbcy who Buffercil from his cruel, 
treacherous, and unt^ratcful fien, though they dared not 
pnntAh him tbcinwlveii, would have let tbe ei.'crot tran- 
spire m a» be might be puniklitd by utbcM nbo MuOered 
and wcr? not bound up ? The mark to tbe ^i^aturv, 
thu4 ^, makc« agatnil tlic hypobesis, as Juniu.Mvbo 
studied -ecrecy, woald not give' aueh a clue to discovery: 
Lf|ually M U the idea thai (be feorels of ibe War Office 
wero only accessible to oi.c of it« uiumberfl; !t U well 
known that through tbe f'tnte onices thvir arcana do not 
transpire to their clerk', espcetully the junior ono«, of 
whom Fnin<-i.4 wn^. The first apiMiarancu of Junius 
wa9, when Durke and tbe Uocklngtiam party were dc- 
[wsed from lh>3 Ministry— when all tlatt! secret* were 
adjudged by Hiiike BH of the Pri\'y Council : thus Ilurke 
could know, and Fruucis could not, tbe accreUi of tbe 
War Onivc. Aa to tliu mi-wrablo allnair^n, that while 
Francis wn« thrre monlht iilToad the I-tttrs were sug- 
pcudcd, it only prove* that it is hitn*i'If that wants to be 
imposed for J'uniufi ; otbcrwisn, who on this earth could 
now know or care where be was on a particular quarter 
near half a century ago? 

" A» to the nocen-iltv of Bcerecy ceasing with tbe life of 
Burke, it w&a ceriaiulie wa* the only nun wbo»e memory 
eoald suffer by being identified as Junius. He wns so 
luminous in many way« itiat he could gain nothing from 
Junius whiKt hl^ memnri>- inu^t suffer from thea.*»'a5i<iinat- 
ing principle of an aimnyintjup Mliri^t — ao exrjuUite and 

firofound. But where wba Junius on Francis's return 
rom India ? What cause could then cxiAt for bis silrnee ? 
If (joveruinent judged it expt<licnt to lie his tongue by 
a vast place when a anptiog and p"or, bow mueli moro 
nceessin- when maiurvr. Independent, and inflamed on bis 
return t' It i» too dtniurd. By this reo-soning, when 
Franejs was young, ivell treated, inesporienced, and 
dependents lie wrote Juniut; wh^n rich, gondcd, insulted, 
and exliibitcd to public scorn, ht: was sUcat.*' 

THE ARMounr IX Tin: tower, 

[lliB following doeumcnt, wbioh lia$i never before been 
printed, will, we<Ionbt not, be r?ijd with great interest bv 
ftlr. Plaiicht* and all who appreciate the good work whicli 
thot gentleman hiu. alrendv effpctcd in the re-arrango- 
ment in tbe arinnur at tbe Tower. 

We trust that it msy lend to awaken greater publio 
interest in ttiat invaluable collection, and no contribute to 
that tfurtherrefonn in tbe Tower Amiourj* which Mr. 
Planchc it under^Ioo*! to have urgtd upon the Gnvern- 
roent : a reform which, without entailing additional cost 
upon tbe nation, would ensure tbe proper maiotenanca 
aud gradual incrcaie end improrcmcni of this noble 
memorial of England's liislory.J 

To tbo right honno"'* y' Ilowse of Lords in 
I'axlaui* oeeembled. 



[4t»' S. V. Jan. 1, 70. 

The bumble Peticon of Edward Anneeley, keeper 
of the Stoarea & Proof-Master in the oifice of 
Armory within his Mogiates Tower of London. 

That yo' Petlconer being a Cittizen And Ar- 
morer of London & skilfuU in making and keeping 
Armee, was in the yeare 1642 called to serve the 
late king and Parliam* in the Magazen of war in 
Ijondon, where haviug served to the great Hin- 
derance of him & hie for aboue 6 yearea his wages 
being still due. 

That the Armea in the said Magazias being 
Ordered to bee delivered into the Tower, And yo' 
peticoner being appointed in the yeare 1(M7 
Clarke of the Armory there & by warrant vnder 
the hands and seale of the right honno**"* the 
Lord Farfax, then generall and Cunstable of the 
Tower ; About 2 yearea after John Clarke one of 
the Store-keepers, and Richard Clarke his kins- 
man for certaine Imbeazelm** and misdemeano" 
being put out of the said Office yo' peticoner 
&en Tppon regulation of the said office to the 
flaring a greate part of the Charge, was apointed 
keeper of the Stores and Prooff Master in the 
same, wherein yo' pet' hath continued with all 
dilligence and faithmUucsse to the Powen Rewl- 
iog about thlrteene yearea. 
^That yo' peticoner hath bin very jnstrumentall 
in preseruing many ritch Armors of hie late 
Maiestyes; brought from Greenwich, And also 
hath preserued to his greate Expence a Ritch 
Armor of greate yalluo made for his late Majes- 
tyes owne Person. 

To^ pet' humbly prayeth yo' honno'* to take 
the premisses into consideracon, and to 
graunt him some such Confirmacon jn his 
said Jmploym* in the Office of Armory as 
to your uonno" wisdome shall seeme meet, 
And yo' pet' doth ingage in all faithfuU- 
nesse to serve his Majesty in his place of 
Trusty and in all other things shew his 
Loyalty as becometh a faithfuU subiect. 
And ever pray &c. 

Edw: Anweslet. 

[Endorsed] The Peticon of Edward Annesley 
Storekeeper & proof master of the Armorey 
of the Tower of London. 

[Annexed to the above petition : — ] 
An Account of all such rich Gvilt Armo'e of his 
Late Ma**" as were browght from Greenwich to 
Gvild Hall, and from thence to the Magazine in 
London about the Ycer 1044 and which hath 
remayned under my Charge and Care ever 
Since oxept one Rich Guilt Arrao' by ord' of 
! the Oouncell then Deliverd to Gennffl Crom- 
well vizd. 

One Small Feild Armor of his late Ma**' made 
for his own p'aon while yonge. 

One other Feild Armor for his owne Person of 
Late use. 

One Armo' Cappapca made for Prince Henry 
his owne Person. 

Two Small Armors Cappapea made for some 
yonge Princes formerly. 

One Large Armo' for Foot Judgd to be made 
for King Henry y» Eight, 

One Small Armor for Foot corded w* Silver 
about y* gould. 

One old Fashioned Armor w"" Sleevs of Mayle. 

One Guilt Targit and Some other od Peices. 
One Armo' of great vallew of his Late Ma** 

made Last for his owdc Person, and one Small 

Armo' made for Prince Charles his now Ma*** 

both put to Sale at Somerset House ye which 

J procured of one 'Willit, to prevent' ye Loss 

of It 

Edw: Awneslet. 

[Endorsed] (5) Annesleyes discouery & 
23 May 1060. 



Looking over a volume of tracts, I have stum- 
bled upon an early notice of Handel's oratorios, 
which 1 think may interest Dr. Riubattlt, Mk. 
Husk, and such other of the readers of *' N.&Q." 
as take an interest in the history of music in Eng- 
land. I am the more induced to do this because, 
if I am rightly informed,, very little is known of 
the mode in which oratorios were originally given. 
The pamphlet is entitled — 

** Seo and Seem Blind ; or, a Critical Dissertation wi 
the'Publick Diveraions, &c., of Persans antl Tiiin;^ and 
Things and Persons, and what not. In a Letter frum tfae 

Right Honourable the I^rd B to A H , Esq. 

' Risum tencatis amici ? ' London : Printed for H. Whit- 
ridge, the corner of Castle AUev, near the Rojal Ex- 
change. Prioe Sixpence." No date. 

The following extract is taken from pp. 12-lG : — 
"In this Opera, Mias Ame^ an Undertaker's Daughter 
near Cownt Gardtn^ appear'd in a most amiaUe Light, 
to the great Delight and Surprize of the whole Town, tlw 
is very young, and very pretty j and has made innumer- 
able Conqnests, her Voice is exceeding small, but exceed- 
ing sweet ; she Sings perfectly in Tune, and her manner 
is entirely modem ; she has such a Warble, such a je me 
tcay ouotft u tickles my veTv Soul ; and yet there are 
some Urates, that becaudo she is ICmfiishf are angry with 
themselves for liking her in trpite uf Prejudice. 

** Her great Excellence, tho' it supported the Opera, 
eclipsed the other Performera ; in short, it was a thoo- 
sand pities it had not been done at one of the other 
Hou$e* ; it would have nppearVl in a mneh better Light ; 
but notwithstanding all the Difficulties it lubour'd an^r, 
it made its way ; and was it not a bold Stroke to set up 
an EngUth Opera, in direct Opposition to the IttUian t 
Was supported by the Royal Patronage ; the Subacrip- 
tion and Interest of the Gen*tr>', and the best Voices /to^ 
could produce; and it was as odd, as bold, for my seu 
saw it, both Opera's being porform'd the same Night ; I 
Itft the Jtaiian Opera, the House was so thin, and croas'd 
ores- the war to the JSnglith one, which was so full I was 

4^S-V, Ja». 1,70.] 


fr.-'-i T- •r-»Ti in npon the Stago, and even that was ' 
II not Ihii udd. I Any, for au En^inJi Tru'lcs- 

i.i '<^r i'i "pring up aU of a Mulduiii, iiurl rival 

H ^oiltatyf I 

.V /, (lui (iMt he brin^ on Oraiorh, \ 

o( . lor the dttcu laku ine if I can make I 

ai ion ol* ttio Won), but he hnii inmlo n 

\< 1 il, anU |ful nivir 'tUOO/. in lux l*(>ckt;I, . 

of Mhi '1 I am very glad, I'ur I love ibtj Man for hia | 
Miuick's fake I 

*-TIiw \wing a new Tliinjj wt (he whalo \V«rM a M-*ii!- 
lUng; Hiin'l rou L>«cu al tli? Omtuno, tuji vtte ? Oil! i 
If Tou «i'jn't ^<y^ the Oratorio you see nothing, &ay3 
I'ol^er; *<> ... \ lu the Oralaho, where \ mvr 

iv\ilvv*\\\v li; uf Ft'tipl'T I evtr hvhfid iu uiy 

Xif<*r hut, to 111. _. ..: ...4;prixo, Ibuiul thU Satred Dramu 
mere Ct>ns(irt, no 64:enan', VtcAU or Action, ao docc--- 
to s Onttua ; but U~^l was pUc'd in a Pulpit (I 
call tlmt tlicir Ointur\->, I'V him >ale ^eno 
ItrTioili, .inJ Tnrntr Jti(iins">i, U\ thfir dwn 
1 ■!« liim stood sundry sn\Ht Singers of this 
imraai, And Sttnila pive ua a HuUelujuh uf hatf an 
loftff; Swmmmim* ani\ liffrtiJli mnde rarn wgrk \rith i 
ft.,.' ' ! ' ^>wo^n it hud hi;«n 

i'l, tliat (ht-y iiii;;hl 
»oi,, '^j since, but for the 

Nftmeul Ungltakt ji migiil a» w«il bavi: Iweu Hebrew,^* 



I fiad in my CoUettanen tho following T^tin 

on wino lAwX drinking generally, ^v'hich perhaps 

intereijt the rvadertt of »* N. & Q." I have 

lexed to eurb quotation u liberal lut^trical para- 

le in onlt-r, to n»o .Mr». KuUlud's words 'u\ the 

iface to her Couhmj SooUj " to make tbem in- 

llMgible to tht; Trvaliest c;ipiicitie«." I cau only 

it that Ffuch men ns Lord Lylton, Mr. Glad- 

le, Lord Lyttelton, and others of our irwis- 

tiug schobLTd, Are uU i^o iniirh tukon tip with 

jc crambc rtiocia of Ilumcr, Virgil, IIorAte, &c.. 

int ibey bavt? oo timo to upare for such ob^siiyii 

gvou M I buie tfaa honour of produning, nnd 

wliicb ar« (to full of ^ouud practieul inforinalion 

till topic* wfaicli can uevex become ubwlute. 

Omnibiu est nototn quod valdc dilijjo potutn. 

^0'«f HIT fault* und my failioKH indulgontly pas?, 
iie\'or yet guilty of shirking luy gla»^ 

ITIrat in (rt«niuni qui dat niibi dulco i'btcrnum. 

[oy be tlouri^li for over io penec and in plenty, 
AVbw givtu me rare port uf liie vintage of Iwuuly. 

PtM tftrnum potutn Tlunni jxm sit mihi notom. 

'baie'or be bia knowIcd;;c, ihe man is an n's 

'ho prv(4j)d9 to dK-idc till hc> drunk Uls third glo^. 

'iaum ouhiilc fatiil iu tene cor Juvenile. 
To nnrtifil bnt jw>rt have I cvrr yet N?en 
rb;si would light u|i iu flighty the dru of eigbtcen. 

turn Rhen«ny« dcai'i lait el gluria uien!>a.'. 

kcht encM tho tnbic like vxcoIK-nt Uhc-nlfih, 
l*Tb a uiue from which even the iiods might rcpleuiab. 

Tost mntutinoA, »i tii vif bib^rc, hibjta 
Vinum proMlaruui, hue diMtrt rfgnln Santm. 

Tho vow of old Sarum Vvf pvit proiMt : 
Nertr driak aftur matiuH, i*XfC|Tl of the best. 

Dum saltunt atomi patet oxcelltntia rjjii. 
When litllc motes are aeon in wtiiv, 
Vuu mav Iw Nuro it's old nnd Hue. 

Pi)?t Humptum vinum loquirnr mca liti^ita Lntlnum; 
Sed, bibo cum bia ter, cuui c|ualil>el nrte magisli-r. 

When u bottle of cxeoUont wine I've h^cn drinking, 
It mukti^t me look wiar and talk l.,ulhi like winkiug 
but nOvr thtre bottler, in arts and divinitv 
1 BMi then a full match for Uie Mnsler of 'frlnitv. 

Si bona vina otipis quin4ue b»c buidantur iu iIUh : 
Kurtin, funnoiia et fragmutlu, friglda, friica. 

l'*ivc things I ask for in champunn, 
Then (luickly I'll the gohlit drum : 
Body nnd llavour, frngrnnt smell. 
Must 111! iti excellency toll: 
Yft still it scarce dcwrvca mv t-Iessing 
rnloM it's ieed and efferTcacing. 

Tina probantur adore, tiapore, liitnore. colore. 

Tour port to be good. 

Be it well underaiobil, 
The GTo and th*? noec and the tustu slmuhl oppro^'o. 

If tlio liquor be bright. 

And tlH> cohmr be right. 
You huvu then, with »ite on it, tho wine that I lore. 

No fnuilas vinum, m non siucaLur ad imura. 
>Vlio fdln on la'cltap^ rare old wine 
Shall iKver darken doors of mine. 

Telle tuos morbos ^'ino quod mittit Opm^o ; 

Comfortat cerebrum, stoinichum roddlt tlbi latum. 

Futnos (tvacimt ct viviTii pl<*na rdnxat, 

Aouit ins**uium, vi»um nutrtt, levat .iar«s, 

Curi)U8 }jiiiguinL'At, viiam Tacit atqiie robustoni. 

Ko gentleman's cellar (Iporto sboidd lock. 

For it eomfons the brain and it srrcngthtns the back. 

The lungs it o-'Matt;, unil iilTirds beyond i|U(!3tion 

Tho very best means uf prdmoting iligc^tion. 

To the c«ir it givis tone, to the eyesigtiL frrsh vigour. 

And tlio scarecrow ojcpands to a corpulent Ugure. 

No mctliciiie, in ca^os of languid sensation. 

Can fo ploji-iiiitly nuickni a .-^hiw circulation. 

It drivw the blue UeviU nnd wrrow away, 

Aud inakw a miin witty, light-hearted, and ^y : 

Imparling new hbre and puwcr to tUe whole, 

New fj:'rce to thy budy. now strength lu thu KWi; 

Aiid thus it l>L-<-<jtncs to n wc.ik cuuktitulion 

Tho Klixir of Life in a state of solution. 

Ja8. CBofisrsr. 

nAltlNGTON. IUI4. 
To the iJuing mcmorj- of the late and lait Hf lousi 
Ujini.xoTorf knight, lord llAniNUTo.N, barou of Eatoh. 
7o the booke, 
Goe nnd Mjwake truth \ it is thy office now. 
Not oucly to cnforme our tiueo, but how 
By rare examptcA miracles Hgn.-«, 
With ;irais« ami with pnvcepts : this wn& bee. 



[4»S. 7. Jaw.!. 70. 

His praise irill not dishonour simple tmtb. 
To say but what he waa; and but a youth. 

To the uwld. 
If thou vert all dull earth. I should beleeue ; 
Thou hadst no eence to fbele : nor soule to greeue. 
But 6 thou art composed of sutler parts ; 
And seest thy losse engraueu in our heaits; 
The purest part, of all thou art (alas 
How fhule. art thou then) was as fraile as'grassc. 

To £nglaiui. 
Thou haat beene beaten many thousand yearefi : 
With seas ; and yet art safc.*but d our teares 
Will more endaunger thee : he was in thee 
The hand, thou the sea ; where such men bee 
Beaten with rage of changes ; yet tbey stand 
Safe in themselues and iix'd as any land. 

To hia mother^ and s!$ters I 
Rather then tell how good he wxis ; I will 
Perawade you to forget : yet wecpe vonr fill, 
For such a sonne, death, and such a brother 
Is rare as faeauens great eye ; that hnth no othrr. 

To hhfriendt. 
To all that rertuc loue, I doe commend 
This title ; it was alone to be his friend 
And good; who hath ne claime and tide now 
He doth not him. but vertue disallow ; 
And yet he had one nearer, then the rest.* 
He liuM at housbold with him : we at feast. 

To the arU, 
loy he is gon ; he would haae diu'd into 
Your deepest secrets, and your knots vndo. . 
As Tnknown trickji, discoucrd easy seeme. 
He would to vs reduce you ; not esteeme. 

To rtfigion. 
What haat thou lost, 6 sacred misterie, 
Thy nurse, and yet thy childe? He did not die 
To thee, of all the rest : he was alino 
Thy martyr, and now dead, he doth more thriue. 
In thee : no : his state takes no increase 1 
Full of the ioies of God : he lines in peace. 

To death. 
Poore vncreated nothing; to contend 
To make all things like thee; yet misse thy end. 
Canst thou hold him one bouro, (i cnuious death, 
Or touch his last, yet euerlosting breath; 
<^> no ; that fled where thou shalt neuer come. 
Though here a while thou triumph on hia toombc. 

Thomas Rob, knight 

The memorj- of sir Thomas Roe having been 
revived by the letters addressed to him by lord 
Carew, printed for the Camden Society in 1860, 
I have been induced to transcribe h'teratim the only 
specimen of the metrical >vritings of the accom- 
plished knight which I can remember to have met 
•with. It occurs at the end of a scarce volume in 
my possession, formerly in the Ilcbcr collection 
I. 6572, entitled The chvrches lamentation for the 
lo^ae of the godly : etc. LoxDok, printed by lOHN 
B£Ai.E. 1614. Small S"". The volume seems to 
have been designed for private circulalion. 

* S' Ed, ffaripood. [He afterwards became colonel 
of an English regiment in the Low-Countries; was shot 
HUaestricht; and buried at the Hagae. His epitaph, 
•eese, waa written by Hugh Peters f-B, C] 

There is a shori; account of sir Tho. Hoe in the 
Camden volume above-noticed. Of lord Haring- 
ton, who had not completed his twenty-second 
year, there ia a portrait and memoir in the Hbb- 
noLooiA. Anglica. According to the list of the 
portraits in that work, ascribed to Mariette, the 
portraits of the Haringtons, father and son, were 
after miniatures by I. Oliver. 

Bolton Cobney. 

Barnes, S.W. 


One of the most recent books on Qoethe litera- 
ture — a volume of Goethe conversations {Goethe^g 
UnterhaUunt/en mit dem KatuJer Frtedt-ich v. Miil- 
for*)— contains some of the great German poet's 
judgments and views respecting English literature 
and its representatives, especially Byron and Scott, 
which I think of undoubted interest to English 
readers, and of which I purpose givinc a trans- 
lation. But not only sucn paragraphs I wish to 
recommend, but the wholo little volume itself, 
comprising, as it does, many wholesome and fresh 
remarks, qjjhoriams, and apophthegms, which will, 
it is true, not show us Goethe under a new 
aspect, but rather confirm our conceived notions 
and ideas of him as a conversationalist, finding 
him, as we almost always diiL fond of even some- 
what brush irony, presiding Jupiter-like over his 
circle, and surrounding his parties, suppers, and 
little and intimate r^wiiom with a kind of court- 
atmosphere. These " conversations," which havo 
had the good fortune of being preserved and that 
of being edited with care, were noted down by 
the late Chancellor Friedrich von Miillcr (bom 
1779, died 1849), of whose interesting and valu- 
able little volume, Reminiscences of the Times of 
Wart 1806-13, 1 have had occasion to speak in 
the pages of this journal, when extracting from 
it the materials for Napoleon's interview with 
Wieland ("N. & Q." 4»^ S. iv. 61-63): a Ger- 
man who has during his whole life always shown 
himself to be possessed of a true and high- 
minded character, even if judged by the standard 
that " a man's life is his character." 

Mr. Burkhardt, the editor of these UuterhaU- 
wiffcttj who, as I have already observed, has done 
his work with great care, and whose nnnotations 
and comments as well as the excellent iudex, 
make tho book of undoubted interest to tho lite- 
rary as well as to the general reader — Mr, Burk- 
hardt would, however, have done well to extend 
his "introduction" {EinlcitunOf vide Unterhalt* 
unffent pp. i.-xii.) over a somewhat greater space of 
bioffrapbical matter relating to Von Miiller. Tho 

)ecame known to Goethe in 1801, being 

• Edited bvC. A. H. Burkhardt. 8vo (pp. xii. 170), 
Stuttgart (Cotta), 1870. 

4AS.V. Jaji, 1,70.] 



iutrotlaced to him by the poet's art-factotUTii, 
Joliaiin Fleinrioh Meyer, tbo piiiuter aiid nrt- 
crilit', anil et'tnid ti^ hare pleased tbo "old Jupi- 
ter *' at ouce, of -vvhom be mcutious after his first 
interview tlial" ha .*>pft.ilj.i ouietly an'l composedly 

hia rye is piorcing (vuie anth p. '*i) ; but 

the real diary notea begia in December^ ld06 (ia 
this printed form at least)^ the last being a few 
ween previous to Gocthe^a death (l8:32). They 
were written down, the editor observes, imme- 
cTiftteiy after the converaatioufi with (loethe took 
place, under tbo fresh and full impression of the 
motudut. lu tht'80 interviews and friendly home* 
'*!;« in otheifi of the same etninp, tvo 
fond of producing some work of art 
or v>i jiu'-ft-st, new or old books, manuscripts, 
^atojrniphs, picturos, enjn'ftvings (ef-pecially), rare 
planta, medob, minernUj &c. &c.f as the Uttc^t 
indacenientfoxa pleading and continunlly enticing 
o^niTersatioo. F.<r in!*tunce, one day (May 13, 
1814), after havinjr shown a beautiful en^avinjf 
by Israel van Meckcnen,* representing the Dance 
•'iHerodias, Goethe beautifully obsened : — 

*'*If » piTsoo wotilJ only make any tnrthy hnbit hU 
t'wn, under which be mny be aUlit to liVightoo \\U rnjov- 
lUMit {L*ut) in diftcrful days aiid to c^imfuic hjinseff m 
~ll (>nc«, let liim rtrcustom ltiinF.c'If, fur iufttarirc, 
d&Uy in tli« bible, or in Homer, or to look at 
" lis or piciUTW, or to lintcii to pxjd musiL* ; but 
it nin*t lie »ou»et^unge^ff//«l^ Sf)mctbingw»orM^ to which 
t'C tlitu occiiMoms himieir, that ho umy alwiiv« mid iu 
■ny c«e hare a nypect for it.'" — Jii/L',"p. lU. ' 

ThU custom of Goethe's, thon, of producing 
some work of art, or of more than ordinary in- 
teivstyas an inducement for and of conversation, U 
n ....wi 1. M.h.i.t,. custom, which, however, may 
1- to puppect that some of Uoetbe'a 

c - :<■ highly premeditated and coD- 

•erf^ueutly somewhat coloured and nrtilieiiil, Whe- 
th' r h.- r nibineJ, together with ihie cuntom, the 
f ' -ly play of the French with the Sinne- 

'■ y oratorical ditlactic of the I'!n(jli«!i 

f :irilist, only those who frequently and 

IV , Tied with Goethe can bo judges of. 

Uiuiig accustomed tn dictate hia very inniottt 
thougbta ifi notes aud letters (csan to Frau von 
St«io, to Betltnu) to imother person, it will almost 
•com aa if his way of spenkioff must have some- 
how T'^minded one of a delivered oration rather 
than of the spontanenu.s orerilnw of a highly re- 
fined^ gvnial, aud sonsitire niind. Hut — to come to 
a beginniug. Of the Kn;?li$h authors mentioned 
and commented upon by Goethe in tbia volume, 
he of whom it \b said that — 

* ' III Meckcncn or Meckcn ; thuo the ilHi^ont 

> ^TtmogrfimmirttH^ vol. iii. [180;!], nrt. 2^06) 

»i;, 1 jiMiting all the oihcr uniuM hy which (his 

reciowD<>d ptiirraver, painter (?), and (;olil«4miLh i.t more 
e»n^ninv kiiMwn— Urael von Bleiholn, Mcnz, Metz, 
M * "T. tro, ic He diul Mnrcli l.i, laOJ, 

ai - his epitaph in full, where he is colled 

•'L--^-i . .^ - :.:--:iTie." 

** tlo touched hin h:irp, and nationn hoard entranced ; 
Asisomc vnst river, of unfuiiiog source, 
Ttapiil,cxhuu4tIr.<A, deep, hia numbers flowtd. 
And oped new foaataint in tbo human hea,it " • — 

Uyron, occupies the pieatest, the foremast place, 
Goethe truly admired him ; BsTon alour. waa the 
jpoet he allowed to be his emiaf. After bis return 
from I^farienbnd and Karlabad, he mentioned 
(Soptembor, 1823) that no other autbira hnd 
been spoken of there but Byron and Scott. Ho 
must have been a staanch champion of Byron 'a, 
one who in the present time would have WJcn fit 
topuiii^h the vile gossip that had its source surely 
in an impure mind eager for vulgar applause, by 
a godlike silence or by bis divine thunder. That 
Goethe often blamed Lord Byrtm we shall see; 
but he remained to him, ever and always, the 
great poet, tbo divine poet, not to bo measured 
liv the acUona and notions of everyday people. 
O'u May 10, 1819, Von Miillcr writes: — 

** At Gocthc*« house« Goethe beiag very cbecrrul. t nit'l 
an intercatin^ ^oung American of the niime of Itoxwcll, 
Mho had htvri travHIiii;; atxjut lu Kiirt»pQ for tlirue 
ycarij.t The converMtioa turucd l»ng ohoiit Lortt Ityron. 
j whom (locttiu ]irC)Uounccd to be the only great puet of 
oiirlimr." — vJn/i^, pp. yO, HI. 

In October, \i>'2M^ we fiud him fiodiny fault 
witli Lord Byron's JTeavcn ami Earth — wliy, Von 
MiiUer does not mention (ant^, p. it6) ; aud a few 
days later !:o is speaking agaiu of Cnia and of 
Heaccji aud Enrth : — 

"ThelaltiT he pnmouaccd to be more comprrhcnslve, 
and oImi cWitrcr Ibaa the former, thla Ihud^ of tuo deep 
and toil Iti'.tcr a cn^t of ttioiight, alltioogb grand, bold, 
and aHVoticg." — Antt\ p. fJ'J, ond pOitim '*N, it <J." i*^ 
S. iii. i>H-2. 

In the following Jlarch (1824) we *ee him 
again occupied with Cain and TVie Viu<m of 
Jwbjvtad : — 

"*I well understand how jo elevated a fjenim mu"t 
after BO mnnv "pi uiHil productions f««I rnnuyi, and ou 
that account Iiq> laoii Inl passiunakdy to seuo tbu aflfain 
of llrercc as a Dtvr pu»lime.* 

''Attlie (tame time he icque^ted me to tranMato fur 
hlni from the M<tnitr«r An urtiric on Catn^ In onler that 
hr- mr^ht be nhlo • to r»'toiH'U ' his owu paper on rhifl work 
in A'«Asr Himl AUrriiititH. * Whensoever the French,' he 
be added, * give up their /'Ai/u^rrf/ J, Iboy stand far above 

• From I'oUtik'i* Cowe of lime. 

f Wlin waa thiA Mr. Itnjtwetl? — English and Ameri- 
fin viiitnra ond tiavrllerA were always most wrlconic at 

* J'hiliftrrei.'—Twn wi'II-knoirn Enj,dish aatbor« have 
explftine'I this woni, Mr. Cnrlylo ("resiieetabilily wilU 
jts thouaand gi:?*'*). ""d Mr. Matthew Arnold. Tho 
lattermoro happilv iu hia most excellent ei^ay on HriHrich 
Utinr. — " Philtatuiisml we \\&\c not the cxpri-H.-.ion ui 
Euglifth- I'erhaps we have not the wonl Ix.jnise we 
have fto much of the thing. At Soli, I imafpae. they did 
not talk of nolcclama ; ana here, at tho very tiead quartcn 

of Goliath, nobody tnlks of PhiliHtini«n." " Pbi- 

lifttina muht havu criminally meant, in llie mind of tboce 
who invented tho nickname, a strong, dogi;cd, unenlight- 
ened opponent of the chosen people, of itic children of 



{4A S. V. Jak. 1, 70. 

OS [Gennann] in critical judgineDt, and in th« full con 
ception of original mental works. ETer\-thing ia in- 
teresting which has an interest to us.' *"* — Ante^ p. 82. 

In June, 1824: — 

"Of Lord Byron's death, be observeti that it had happened 
}iiBt in the nick of time. * His Greek undertaking has 
had something impure, and would never have ended well. 
It ia a great misfortune that great minds, endowed with 
sacb rich ideas, absolutely wish to see their Ideal realised 
and introduced into everyday life. This cannot be : the 
Ideal and the common-place Rcalitv must be strictly 
separated.' "—Ante, p. 90. 

November 18, 1824 : — 

"Goethe was extremely mild, quiet, and inwardly 
dieerfal. He soon came to speak of Lord Byron. * By- 
ron,* he said, * only places Pope (den alien Pope) on so 
high a Mandard on account of having in him an invin- 
cible drawback. Compared with Pope, Byron has been a 
giant ; compared with Shakespeare, on the other hand, a 
dwarf. 'Hie ode on the death of General Moore fof 
which Goethe always ftpoke in raptures, and which for 
many years waa thought to be a poem of Lord Byron in 
Germany as well as in France*] is one of the most 
beautiful poems of Byron. Sheuey must have been a 
tuurrow-minded fellow not to feel this : moreover, Byron 
seems to me to have been far too kind to Shelley. That 
Byron has taken UgoHno as a prototype for his Pritoner 
of Chilian cannot be blamed at all: the whole universe 
bdongs to the Poet, each spirited work of art becoming 
in turn a part of nature, and thus the later-bom poet 
may make use of it just as well as of any other natural 
phenomenon.' " — Ante^ p. 94. 

The same day he was disparaging Tom Moore, 
and speaking of the favourable impression Lasrd 
Stratford's departiu« from Coustantmople, on ac- 
count of the state of Greece, had made upon him. 
Speaking thus of Greek affaire, Goethe expressed 
a different opinion from that of June, 1824, as 
regards Lord Byron's influence on Greece and the 
Greeks : — 

** ' If Lord Byron's life had been spared, he wonld have 
become a Lycurgua or a Solon for Greece.* " — Ante,, p. 94. 

On December 17, of the same year, Goethe had 
a long talk on Byron's Conversations: — 

" * I am reading them now for the second time. I 
ibonid not like to miss them although they leave behind 
a painful impreesion. How much gossip often about the 
moat futile things; what offences taken at each silly 
Jadgment of jonmalists ; what a wild life with dogs, 
monkeys, peacocks, horses; eren'thing without connect- 
ing links! Only as regards taking a view on a thing, 
Byron judges well and dearly; reflection is not his — 
Ml judfnnents and combinations are often those of chil- 
dren. With what patience he allows himself to be re- 
proached with plagiarisms, firing only small shot at his 
antagonists for bis defence, instead of thundering down 
open them with heavy cannons. Does not everything 
tiiat the past and the present have done belong by right 

light." — Kide, pasnim the whole es?ay on Ueinrich Heine ; 
for the above word, Enaya in Critidtm, 1865, pp. 167- 

• As late aa 1831 Ones (bom 1775, died 1842), the 
famous German translator of Calderon, Tasso, Ario^to, and 
Bojardo (whom Panizzi's fine edition has saved from 
oblivion), translated Wulfe'smaster-poem as being Byron's. 
Vide Aiu dem Lehen von Johann IHederick Gri«,*N, P., 
1866, p. 163. 

to the poet ? Why should be feel afhud of colling 
flowers wherever be nnds them ? Only by appropriothig 
the very best part of pother people's fmental J treamzea, 
something great can be produced. Have I not myself 
made use of Job and of a Shakespeare-song for Mtphuto- 
' phelee ? Byron was mostly unknown to himself a great 
poet ; seldom he fully enjoyed his own self.' " — Ante, 
pp. 95, 96. 

lu May of the following year (1825) he was 
speaking of the mental resemblance between 
Madame de Stael and Byron (tmt^f p. lOD ; and 
in June, 1827, of Parry's narrative of tne last 
days of the great English poet {anUj p. Ill), but 
on both occasions Von Miiller does not mention 
any particulars. Goethe took at that time a great 
interest in the affairs of Greece, and one day 
(A-ugust 13, 1827) spoke much of Canning and 
of his premature and untimely deaUi (<mM, 
p. 115.) 

Remembering how difficult a thing it must 
have been to ootain English books in Gennany 
some forty or fifty years ago, we are astonished 
how many of them found their way to Weimar, 
I do not wish to speak of standard works, but of 
less known or less universal books, whose only 
merit often is their rarity. Thackeray tells oa in 
his charming " Letter " that forms an appendix 
to Mr. Lewes's Life of Goethe, that even the 
court of Weimar, the grandduke, and the amiable 
Grandduchess Luise not excepted, borrowed Eng- 
lish books of the young and old English gentle- 
men and gentlewomen who came to visit Weimar, 
and Goethe must always, it is evident, have re- 
ceived the lion's share. Thus he is speaking of 
Roger Bacon's works (whom he greatly and 
justly admired, anti, p. 4), Moore's iVm«, Howard's 
Climate of London (which he highly praised, 
ant^t p. 47), Flaxman's much admired outlines, 
Lady Morgan's /to/y (he probably read the Ger- 
man Weimar edition, 1H21 — the authoress he 
fairly hated — anti, p. 48), Mrs. Hoscoe's ^oral 
IlludrationSj and many others. Of Carlyle he 
began to think very highly. " We spoke of Car- 
lyle's article " (probably the one on Goethe in the 
Foreign Quarterly, 1828) Von Miiller observe?, 
"and Goethe said " (August 16, 1828) :— 

" * I have forwarded some little presents to this ^rortbr 
man, viz. a pocket edition of my works, Fauat, a medaii 
and an engraving [probably portraits of tioethe], an ircn 
breast-pin for his wife, &c. These kind of people,' he 
added, ' aa we also observe in the Bracebridges, lead a 
much more intimate and socially connected life than we 
do in our hasty pleasures. They are aa it were united 
together in a narrow boat in the midst of the ocean, un- 
mindful of the roar and the noiae around them.'" — Ante, 
p. 125. 

Next to Lord Byron, Sir Walter Scott occupied 
much of Goethe's attention and serious thinking, 
but he did not admire him as much as he did 
** the only great poet of our time." Of Sir Wal- 
ter's poems he does not speak here. Mentioning 
one day one of Sir Walters books, probably ft 
novel, he said : — 

i^s.\\ ;*». 1,70.] 



A l, \vtii<-)i li.i-i \,fvu 


ri'at eflicacy euiii, pro- 
' of. Moreovor, cri- 

rwtlr At, witli QncMtm JJuryytrd.] — Ante, p. 57. 

OdH evening (Octobor 2. lr'23,) he freely dis- 
caawd lJ}Tr.n nudi Sir Wnllor, pmisintr CV#i'« 
Ui^rh! V the scent? of tlio murder: — 

" * 1 [ aWnn la Ik my cquiil (J7yri>n «//«« 

Mr //r-Z/fM /) Walter St-ott is iiolbUig com- 
.'"—Jntr, p. 65. 
Some days nftt-r, October 12. \H'2^j :— 
"'Thonini Mnnrt" has not pleased me ia anyttiing. (}f 
,. -i.-.-w 1 Imve bren rcyi'liii^ two novtl*. and know 
intptidit iinil wlmL he is Mblu la ito. lie 
' :^ amuse mc, but I cAnnot learn anything of 
I liase nnlv timu for the trulv cjEccllent I * *' — Amti, 


^ ' r Jfty (Xovenilwr 25, I>^--1,) wlien Von 

quite alono wiHi G<3ethe. tbo luttcr 

11^ of Sir W«lter'8 success in a pecn- 

! . baving mode 80.000/. by hif? wriLintrs, 

I _' al?o nt the «Bme time enld his trut> 

I niiihor for thia sum ; for mo9t of his 

:. lie pronoiinped tn bo of not much value, 

L -t far too pood for the public at hr^ 

'. iAnt^, p. 1)S.) 

! WttlUr's Lct:n:< on Witchcraft and Demon- 

\Th\r\i U'^fllii.' bad rend lit tfio cud of 1830, 

i ' biffhly (anik, p. MO) ; but the Life of 

I'-', liUt^ muiy with and after Gootbe, 

did uul coafiidei- uf sulHuieot coamopolilaa in- 

ttrefl : — 

"•> ' ■ ri could only be rcatl with 

^li*a*r;i .in ca.ic one he n'«*olrecl 

' "* ' '- •■^■^ck-mglisch) wfty of 

rldly phcnMinBiion. 

cni>u!<h lo rcjd i: 

tu.'Lj^ti tium bcgiiiiiiiig tu LaJ iu EngU^jb.' *' — AntCy 

|. \^< 

i hAr4i just clust'd the book, and know it will 
Imvo up«fti my miud a mon; thfui agrveablu im- 
piuuon and etTcct for a lung timi.'. It ia not 
mere er*<TTday go^ip recorded to till a volume; 
■KMt of itp 'v; ' ■ Ir-ve a dcwT frcflbnt-sa and 
W2iay wlk ^ about them ; and «nch 

^ttUitiua^ m^^.^ ■-, ougUt to rf'commciut it to 


■■^ in row, 

"- .11 ' .1 liitre yoii must turn 

! un, 'Iburlliy, and liouni." 

J '■' T.;nrriln*bire rhyme may be 

uil«v>»iinp I I, like mysolf, fiftd forj:nttt'n 

It till rcmin . : . . ; ii tbiiii^ bv the nnpenranco 
of " Local iibymv *' in " .\. & Q." 

IloilT. HAEBWICJtr. 

Weather PriEnKTiox: a MAr.Ti*aMA8 Wnn>. 
A year ogo a lluntingdousUire eotUi^'er told me 
that, -whatever quai-ttr tho wind may bo in at 
MartinmaH, **it Ki?eps mainly to the same point 
riglit on to old Cimdleuias Day/' Feb. 14 ; and 
that, ail the wind wnn thon S.8.W. there would 
be a prevalence of such winds dnrinp; those three 
montlif.with " a mild winternnd no enow to speak 
of." On Dec. II, 1808, I sent a note of Ibis to 
" N. & Q.," which appeared in tho 4** «. iiL 10. 
In tho same volume, p. 447, your correspondent 
PniLiOKlcoLA called nttcution to *' the fultilmeut 
of the jirognoaticatiou," and the way in which it 
had "been so singuUrly veriiied." The anme old 
potta^r haa this yeur told me that the wind waftj 
N.W. at Mnrtinmod, and he thp-refopo predicts 
that we shall have a somewhat severe winter. I 
may ntJd that 1 tind this belief as to thi* Martin- 
raaa wiud prevalent amon|?my cottft:/u nei^rhbouiMi 
in Huntinjfdonshiro ; and 1 was told by several! 
that they went out of doore tho bwt thing oo 
Martinmas night to see where tlie wiud wna. 
"It blew rifirht down the street," they said, (. e, 
from the N.W., "and that betokens a hard 
winter." CrrnBEBt Bbdb. 

Xov. 2j, 18C9. 

A Mkdi.bvat, KutwnoudE. — The CornUh Tek* 
t/raph of Sept. 1*0, 1809, aaya :— 

** It viasi Tcsolvcil last week to remoro entirely the old 
thuLcheil roi>f of due of tlie fdrmhoujies on tho estate of 
KoseJffMlal [uesr the Land'K KmJ. Cornwall] — a Iwius 
witiwfe Komhre, weathfrr-fltAincd gnuiite wnllf> nnJ qoalnt 
ohiniuoy jptr.ik of nt least three or four lonf^-lived ^«ne- 
TMlinns ftf owner*. To tbi? rwitiencc w/i* ns^ij^nrd, by 
common rumuuraml one of th« oouniv Imttfric^, ilic ti\gt 
of 250 yciFR. The lluitch, in some plaeos u.i^ ihree and 
fotir I'lH't thick, Hiid near the west gabV- it overtmng and 
buried up u portion of tlin cliicnney. On making; a clear- 
ii!i'-e, ti» have rot'fti A>r a slato roof, the fiRiirca 1457 
nI'pea^^l very plninly cut inlo a -tone. The stone will 
remain, aud iltt' figures bo r^-cut." 

The above cutting U probably worthv of pre- 
servation in ** N. & Q." 09 recnrdin^ tlie exist- 
ence of one of the most ancient farmhouses in thv 
country. E. H. W. D. 


PiipLi.A It Satixos. — Let mo record for the benefit , 
of future inquirers the iMurce, or at all events the 
early U5e ol, the following phrases : "To reckon 
without your host"; "To fall between two 
BlooU"; nnd "If the skies fall, wo nhnll catch 
larks." They will be found in ivabelnis' Oar- 
gnnifift, and are thus e.xpre.'wed: "comptoit sans 
eon ho?le"; *'8*aaseyoit eutre deux selles le cul 
n ti'pn^ " : and " si Ics nues toniboicnt, e^pi^roit 
prendre les aloiiettea.'' II. Fisuw icK. 

Skuvasts' AVaors rs ITM. — The follnwing is 
an fxtract from the will of the Rev. Vir. William 
Harlwell, who lived in ptnl*; tind splendour as 
rector of the rich rectory of Stanhupe m DurluuD^ 



[irt-S-V. Jan. 1/70. 

of which he was incumbent in George the First's 
d&js: — 

*'Ileni. I leave to Thomas Mom^, my servant, six 
poandi ; to John £niincr:M)n, mr other servant, three 
poands ; to Sarah, iny maid, fifty shillings — teing tomch 
a year'* wages.** 

Note, that the doctor does not nppear to know 
that Sarah had a aurname ; she is simply ' Sarah, 
mr maid.' The will bears date tJie Otli of March, 
1724 A:J. M. 


Bell Taterx, Kxkg Street, WESTHtssTEn. 
Can any one inform me whether the house in 
which the October Club, so celebrated in the 
Ifttter years of Queen Anne, held their meetings, 
is still in existence ? It stood, I believe. In King 
Street, Westminster, and there are two very old 
projecting houses on the right-hand side near the 
St. George Street end — the one a coffee-house, 
the other a small news ngeucy, which X fancy to 
bare heard mentioned as tne identical place. 

C, 0. Colleton Kesnie, 

BBiDOEWJiTEB. — The tactics of the electors of 
this town bare not clianged or cheapened much 
during the last century. 

" All this troDble ami vexation and expense flows from 
a set of lov worthless fellows who, finding they shall not 
be bribed without opposition, have prevailea on Lord : 
Egmont tolend his name, to whom they will give one | 
vote that they may sell the other . . . spent these 
three days in the infamous and disngreeable compliance 
with the low habits of venal wretches . . . the elec- 
tion cost me 3,A00l."'—Doddingtvn^$ Diary ^ August 1753> 

The venality which disgusted Bubb must hare 
%een stupendous. In Hogarth's series of The Elec- 
tion, Bubb Doddington is the member who is 
being chaired. Did the series refer to a Bridge- 
water or Weymouth election, for both of which 
places B. 1). returned the two members ? 

J. AViLKixs, B.C.L. 

English Ekoraveiw. — Although I have not 
been fortunate as regards a query of mine respect- 
ing some living English eagrarers (antb, 4"* S. iv. 
*167), I venture to ask a similar question, and 
should feel greatly obliged for any reply. 

1. Biographical and other notes relating to M. J. 
Danforth, an engraver, and bis works. 

2. Tho same, relating to 11. Dawc, " a stipple 
engraver, who died, I am told, about twenty years 
ago at Brighton. He is chiefly remembered as 
the engraver of a portrait of the Queen, when 
Princess Victoria, seated in the royal pew, St 
George's Chapel, Windsor." For thu note I am 
indebted to a well-known English art-critic. 

3. Tho same of II. Gillbank, of whom I find 
mention made in the illustrated catalogue of the 

Essingh collection (put up for sale at Colr^e, 
September, 1S05), in this way : — 

" 34. Hersilia. The battle of the Romans and Sablnes. 
(After a picture of Singleton.) Beautiful large aqua* 
tiDta engraring by an almost unknown English artiiit, 
1802. ObL imp. folio. 

"35. Coriulanos. Beautiful, large aquatinta engrAviug 
after Singleton and pendant to the former. Obi. imp. 
ioho,** — lilustrirter Catalog der Kynst-Sammlumgendei 
. . . Herrn Anton Josepft Etnr.ghy Cologne, 1865, 
p. G ; and priced catalogue, p. i., where the two toge- 
ther art! mentioned as being sold for 1/. 4s. &d. 

Hermann Kindt. 


'* The Fom^st School Magazine.'* — A school 
magazine, called The Forest School Magadnef 
Walthamstow, was published about 186G-1867. 
Who was the editor of this periodical, where 
was it printed and published, and is it still in 
existence ? R. Inous. 

Henry II. — Can any one give mc information 
concerning the statement that Henry II. used to 
bury women up to their waist and then set bull- 
dogs at them P I was told this the other day as a 
fact known to students of history, and I should be 
glad to learn on what authority it rests, and where 
the statement is to be foimd. Luuen. 

Holzd-Stone at Abury, Wiltshire. — 
Stukeley, in describing the stone-circles at Abury, 
eays: — 

" Exactly in the foutfaera end of the Temple [? line] 
which connects the two centres of these temples, is an odd 
stone standing, not of great balk. It has a hole wrouglit 
in it, and was probablv designed to fasten the Tictici in 
order for slaying it. T^his 1 call the ring stone.** — Quoted 
in Duke's Druidical Temples of IFUtshire, p. 6'2. 

Can this monolith still be identified P or has it 
been destroyed along with other stones of the same 

O? Perhaps some resident in the neighbour- 
or recent visitor will be able to inform me. 

E. H. W. B. 

" Leal-Car." — In an eighteenth century docu- 
ment now before me, I nnd James Macmacus 
designated as the " leal-car " of BoUisle Castle, 
CO. Fermanagh. What is the meaning of the 
term '* leal-car" thus applied, and is it so used to 
express ownership ? Is *' car " an abbreviation of 
the Saxon " carle " ? Charles Sotheran. 

81, Derby Street, Hulme, Manchester. 

Leo tjie Sixth's PROpnECY on the Fall of 
Constantinople.— Can any of your readers ex- 
plain the following passage from the above, in 
which the restoration of the Greek Empire is pre- 
dicted P 

'Effij irdXty '^ap &<ntfp ofc8' Ap^a/it'nj, 
"Bus 6tov HditTvXos i^StU 4^ cw 
X*iphs ^vtiffTis Zeucr^Xovs TA-^trci SvOf 
Atxi^hf ^ipQvraij afipn in 4k Koufvov 

& V. Jak, 1, 70.] 



*H^ou<n 5' alCi^ K(/«Aii}9fv Ta fl*^ Tixva 

G. A. Scnnuxpr. 

^fABRi ^OE LicKXSEs. — Can any corresDondent 
giTe nie ft list of the oflicea where marriage licon«ea 
are to bo inspected ? I nm well acqiminU'd with 
those in London, York, and Chester; but there 
•re of course many more, and I eupposo that 
Mch dicH'ese baa one of its o^vn. For example, I 
aasumv a marriage to hare taken place in the 
dioce?e of WiDchealer; wJiere am I to aenrch for 
the license bond when 1 fail to iiud it ij; the 
xegistrj' of the ^Vrchbiahon of Ciinterbiuy ? 

G. W. M. 

A1bi»al». — Mr. Pinkektok's oWigino: reply 
(4** 8. iv. ill) to M. D.'a iaq^uiry about ilie Gor- 
zntgon medal emboldens me to able him to jrive 
mt! any infurmation ho can about the followin^^ 
medals:— I. Oln\ "sensorivm. axxo . rniMO . 
oEORoii. 1715," aroxmd a full-faced sun with 
nij3. i?fc. Two female figures — one draped with 
a scroll in front of lier, inscribed '*flUADEBE;" 
the othor m^mi-nude — a sun in her right hand, 
a palm branch in her left, her left foot reating 
upon n globe. Size 10. — 9. OIp. " carolt.s . SACK- 
riLLB . MIUISTKR. F. L." ITlfi bU9t : ex. NATTEB, 

17'il. IttT. '' AH . omaiNE." A uudo figure (the 
ftiua of secrecy P), left ami resting upon the 
lamn Bupporting- the cornucopia; the plumb- 
le, Uve], i^j^uare, and other emUlema of masonry 
Ktbisfttef. J^ize ly,— .3. Obv, "ovR. foop.18.sf.- 
&rnox;" nbore, a female isinged griHin, with the 
head of a furj-, the tail of a dragou, carrying a 
fla^bearii)<r the royal crown, a cap of liberty on 
point of tho staffj at bottom a acroU inscribed 

above,r»T3 over a marsh ; asnalcu winding through 
it. " /VLT IJ, 17i»l." in ex. Size 10. 


MoBTiMKR PfiDioRKB.— Julian Mortimer, 1347; 

UKb Mnrtimcr, about l.'i30; Vulunlino Mor- 

";"f, 13.i7; William Mortimer, 1374; Henry 

: Jiicr, 1340-50; Kntherine Mortimer and heV 

!• ' - 1414; br-ir of John Morlimor. 1415. 

from the Holla. Lucy Clifford mar- 

'imcwdo Mortimer, eleventh century ; 

I Montaoute married Sir John Mortimer; 

ol Howard married Sir Robert Mortimer, 

not fwr from 1500. 

H'}io .,v re these Mortimers, and what (if anj) 

tnection with the Mortimers of Wig- 

■f March? Waa Katherino the wife 

»:-liinj;.a Mortimer of Wigmoro, mid daughter 

Owen Glvndwr ? Bid Edmund leave any 

^**>*f Did bifl brotlier John marry or leave 


wauo ? Did hia nephew Roger (brother of the 
last earl) marry or leave issue P 

Any information on these points will bo grate- 
fully received by HKRacK.VTairi^K. 

ItiiEiMs Testament op 1582, akd SpAjnsn 
Armada. — 

" Cca no{«8 et lour tendance n'ritublo oat c'tc carac- 
teri-«^s avcc buaticoup dcjaslc^se daoB un Journal L^-rit 
(Icnosjnun par tlvf* cotholi'^tifs.nnglai'*. • Lp'* notfi da 
N. T. avaient inoi'iitDstjllGment pour I'oltjet <le |tnt[«irer 
rcipinion iiuUlique u I'invasioD prujetee par ]'hili|)[>o II 
au iDumoiit oil co prince armait dans son dcsdviii soa 
invincible Aimatia.'" — Xotire nir la Biiilc de Dmati *t 
^\ Test, ttc RcitnM, 1941. 

The ahove passage la quoted in the catalogue 
of Dr. Todd's library, p. 20, which waa sold by 
auction last month. I should be glnd to get soaio 
information about this French jWjVv, and 4he 
An;,rio-Catholic journal referred to. I do not re- 
member that Low*i5 or Dr. Cotton have ohsf^rvcd 
the connection between the Rheinia Tealainent 
and the Armada, but I haro not their v^orks 
within reach at present. Q. Q, 

rARDiN-U, Uicnr.LiKr. — Where almll I find an 
account of the appearance of Cardinal Richelieu 
before Anne of Austria and her maids dressed aa 
a clovm 't A Reauur. 


Selden'4 Treatises ox " Tythbj " and 
" Titles of nosorR."— The first edition of Sel- 
den'a Treatise on Tythe» wna printed in rniall 
quarto, liOndon, 1018, and according to a note in 
tlie haudwriliuif of the late Mr. Donaldson Sclby 
of (.'lies^'icU, Northumberland, was ** puppro.^acd 
by the Court of High Commission in lOlU," und 
the author "prohibited from writing any dofvnce 
in answer to Dr. Montague and others who as- 
sailed him." 

Axe there any omissions of passages in the 
original text in the subsequent editions, or any 
modification to remove the objections of Sehh'n'a 
opponents? The copy of llic tiditio nrinctps be- 
fore me wa^ purchased at the sale of Mr. Donald- 
son Helhy'a Ubidry. It is in 6ne condition, and 
the fv)rmer owner considered it as of uncommon 

The eecond edition of Seldan^a invaluable Titirs 
of HoKQur y\t\s published in 1031, and in it will 
bo found a charter by William the Lion to Mor- 
gund, the snn of Gillocher, of the earldom of 
Mar, printed from the oriRinal parchment then 
omangst the records in the Tower. It ifl referred 
to in n document atill in exi.9toncc, printed hy 
Palgrave in his collections relative to Scotland — 
a valuable work published by authoritv of th© 
Record Commission, where Donald, or Doven.old, 
the descendant of Morgund in the reign of Ed- 
ward 1., is mentioned in a roll of the earls u 
having it in his posaea^ion. 
The firat edition of Selden's TitUs of Jlonom* 



[4* S. V. Jaw. 1, ^0. 

cannot be found in the library of the Facalty of 
Advocates. I am anxious to learn if William's 
charter was then printed. The charter is his- 
toricaUy important^ aa it shows that the Scotish 
*' Lion " was in his "New Forest in 1171, with his 
army and counsellors," wdting doubtless for a 
suitable opportunity of passing into England to 
redeem his pledge to the ungrateful son of 
HeniT n. of assisting him in his contemplated 
nbelUon. The writ sets forth that the investiture 
of tiie earldom took place at Hyndhop-Bumeuthe. 
The first place cannot now be traced, but the 
second still remains, and is pven to a fishing 
village a few miles from Berwick-on-Tweed. 

J. M. 

SouTHWOBTH PORTRAITS. — Can anj of your 
readers inform me if there is a portrait in exist- 
ence of John Southworth, apriest of the church 
of Rome, who was executed at Tyburn, June 28, 
1655. He is mentioned in Dodd's CathoUc Chwck 
Hidoryj and is said to have been the last person 
who was executed for religion in this country ? 
Or, of Sir John Southworth of Samlesbury Hall, 
Lancashire, Knt., a noted recusant in Queen 
Elizabeth's reign, who was placed for some time 
in the care of the Bishop of London, and after- 
wards in that of his (Sir John's) kinsman, Dr. 
Nowell, Dean of St. Paul's. 

Jaues Croston. 

The Grove, Cheetbam Hill, Manchester. 

James Whitelet.— Can any one refer me to 
an engraved portrait of James vVhiteley, the pro- 
prietor and manager of an extensive Midland 
theatrical circuit in the last century P He died 
at Wolverhampton in 1781, and is among those 
whose memories should be kept green, at least by 
the followers of his art. He is described as being 
" a warm advocate for his company, whose cha- 
racter is justified by the fact that he bequeathed 
his veteran performers to his successors, with a 
weekly salary entailed on them for life." — R. W. 
Procter's Manchetter inSolidxiy Dress^ 1866, p. 28.) 

C. W. Sutton. 

Two liOTAL Noblemen. — Lord Clarendon, in 
}iU History cf the Rebellion (book vi. p. 26 vol. ii. 
folio ed.) tells an amusing story of two noble- 
men, of whom Charles I. tried to borrow money. 
The second is so clearly defined, that there is no 
mistaking him. Who was the first? F. H. 

[The " two great men wbo lived near Nottingham," 
were Robert Pierrepont of Holme Pierrepont, co. Not- 
tiogbara, created Braron Pierrepont and Viyscount Newark, 
Jane 29, 1627, and Bad of Kin^on, July 25, 1628. Hii 
lordship bore bo high a character for his loyalty, hoe- 
pitaiity, and liberality, that he was lunally styled by 
the eommon people **tbe good Earl of Kingston." Whilst 

engaged in the service of Charles I. he was killed in an 
open boat near Hall on July 80, 1G48.— The other " great 
man" was Sir Francis Leke, created Baron Deincoort 
9f Sutton, CO. Derby, Oct. 26, 162-1, and Earl of Scarsdale. 
B7ov. 11, IClo. nis lordship took an active part daring 
the civil war in the royal cause, under whrae banner two 
of his sons laid down their lives. His lnrd»hip was so 
effected by the cruel murder of Charles I. that he dotted 
bimself in sackcloth, and causing his grave to be dog 
some years before his death, laid himnetf therein every 
Friday, exercising himself therein in divine meditation 
and prayer. He died in 1655.] 

Dr. Warton— Will any reader of "N. &Q." 
kindly give me information respecting the writer 
ot Deathbed Scenes^ by Dr. Warton, Murray, 1830 P 
Is the author's name on the title-page a nam de 
plume or his general patronymic ? 

S. R. TowNSHBNn Mayer, RR.SX. 

25, Norfolk Street, Strand, W.C. 

[The author of Death-Bed ScmeM and Pastoral Ott- 
vertations, by the late Dr. John fF'artoR, was the Ber. 
William Wood, B.D., formerly a student of Christ CInzdu 
Oxford, where he graduated— M. A. 1798, B.D. 1801. 
Being domestic chaplain to Bishop Randoli^ be wu 
presented by that prelate to the rcctoiy and vicarage of 
Fulham in 1811. In 1830 Archbishop Howley, who had 
appreciated his merits when at Fulhnro, gave him tiia 
rectory of Coulsdon in Surrey, and in 1834 a prebendal itsS 
at Canterbury. Mr. Wood resigned the vicarage of Ful- 
ham in 1834, but retained the sinecure rectory oatil bis 
death on April 11, 1841. He was buried at Fnlham oa 
the 16tb of the same month. The fifth edition of i>Mt&- 
Bed Scenet, 1841, 4 vols. 8vo, edited by his sons, contaiai 
a memoir of him.] 

Magna. Charta, etc., of Hbkrt in.— -Cn 
you inform me where I can find a trsn^tioaof 
the Mngna Charta and Charta de Forests of 
Henry III., both of which I believe are dated the 
11th of February, in the ninth year of his ragn 
[a.d. 1224-51 ? EWQUIRII. 

Burton-on 1 rent. 

[An English translation of the Third Great Charttfflf 
King Henry HI. p:raated a.d. 1224-5, in the ninth yetf 
of hia reign, a» well as of the First Forest Charter of Haay 
III., granted Nov. 6, 1217, in the second year of U» 
reign, with some account of the Second, dated Westmia- 
ster, Feb. 11, 1224-5, will be found in Richard Thonnotli 
Historical Essay on the Magna Charta of King Jcim, 
Lond. 1829, pp. 131, 329, 437.] 

Apostolic Cursbrs. — Can you furnish mevith 
the date of an article or letter, said to hare 
appeared in The Times about five or six yeW 
ago, in which mention is made of these functko- 
aries ? What are their duties ? They do Boi 
appear in the listof officials of the Roman Cooncsl 
as published. B. E. 

[An English tranalation of the M^jor Ezcomnmnitt' 
tion of Pins IX, ** inflicted on the invaders and 

&T. JJUI. l,'70.] 



^SOTnc> of nar provior*?,*' appeared in The ThmeM of 
6, I(*60, which U there Ai{;ned by ".Vloys Scratint', 
aqMetpliruJ cHner^ ami Phillppus Clzt^ani.magistpr vurser." 
The corrrrl meaainj; of the titles of these two uiKcors 
rJAc to nil iimu«in^ Ji^cos^ion between Sir Ucor^t; 
'ver uiil a c«»rr»>poij(ltiit signing himself " rrwuraer.'' 
ofApril:, 9. 10, 11,1860.] 

(4* S. iu. 670; W. 23, 41, 81. 204, 237.) 

El wnB fully expected before iLis time to have 

In in yoiir columue a rt'ply from Mr, Xomutc- 

«03r, or enrae otht?r believer in the *Minrioubted 
origrnmlity " otd superior merits of tlie West- 
^* stCT "Blue BoT, in nna^ver to my last com- 
tication on the subject wbich appeared in 

r. JfeQ." (p. 237), but none has as yet appeared. 
This looka as if great^ if not insurmount^ible diffi- 
culty, had been experipoced in obtaining' tlio in- 
toimaXion necesMry t<> proru tliu We^tuiinster 
asMf ur t^i altAck succ^MtrtiUr the caee made out 
on b«4»ftJf uf the utber blue-cfad boy. 

In the ab«vu(v uf such a reply, and pronded 
tiwt your splice willadiuit, perhnp^ the following 
paorticuJaTs of tho '* Dhie Itoy " question aa it 
fltaad^ At pTBtfent may be interesting to your 


It will be in their rvenlleclion that it had been 
prvriouily shown io ** N. & Q.," (1^ that the 
history of Ute Westminster '* Blue Bov/* which 
parporta to emonatu from the recordd of the 
' nor gallery tbrough diU'ercnt authowk, is 

-us aa retrardii iloppner, the man from 
^irhoui the picture wa^ Mid to be purehaeed, 
Idlhouffh it in lilteW to be correct with reference 
'. ' '<a*e of a "IllueBoy" by the tirnt 

nor; (2) tlint ita known or public 
i-iiriituiinced at an auction-room ealo iu 
lera Court, Leioetter .Sijuare; (il) that iJ' 
anmu time after tliis aiilc by the lirst P^url 
■venor. who diud Au^. G, lriU2, it could not 
the origiuril " Blue Boy," which wad 
in Mr. IIoppner*s posaeaaiou in l>^0t3, 
leJOt*, but muat be another one ; (4) 
tho ** Blue Boys" were painted by 
II, then the lea^it known one is the 
worh of iiTl: and (r>) that if one of them be a 
of the other, th*tn it wjis nioisl probable 
Weatminator " Blue Boy " would bo tho 

u eiiice received, and the searcb- 
which the len«t known " blue 
^^iBfi iiirf uni' /^'•'Ui% mnteriiiUy strou^then the^e 
HBUucttooii. U' not entirely conHnu them. 
W Hut '* ' I a proviouu number shown 

I thnt U< •ri of the so-called histurj 

I Oif til* \V • fivuiiuai- 1 Lilue Bny*' vrna erroneous, it 

will now be shown that the Xeabitt part thereof 
(see 4*'' S. iii. •'576) is aleu wronj^. Indeed il ap- 
pears that ihe Westminster history of the picture 
la a compoimd of a grain of truth and n buMhol of 
error : the truth beiu^ the names of MesOTS, 
Neabitt and iloppner, who necessarily posseaaed 
the original '* Bum Boy," and tht» nt'or beiufif 
nnnther picture altogether. Aceordiu^^ to this 
history, '• at Mr. Buttairs death tlie ' Blue Boy' 
was purchased by Mr. Neabitt '* ; but m fnr there 
appea:*8 no reason to think that ifr. Buttidl i?ver 
did po-'sess the original •* Blue Boy." (.)n the 
contrary, there U proof that it belonged at an 
early period of ita lifetlmo to George Prince of 

In Thornburr'a Life of Turner an intprerting 
anecdote ia told how, and from whom, Mr. Nea- 
bitt obtained the " Blue Boy " : — 

" Many years ago," sajs llie narrator, ** there realded 
at Ili'al'iti'a Mr. N*Mbilt, a pornon uf .siiluiance in his 
TmiiigerdayH. anil acompaniitntjf llcorge Prince of Wale& 
llf nnre po-«5<MAed GninAhorou;rh's ' Blue Roy.' and in tlie 
futlowintf wny. He wa* ditiiuK with tho Piiucu : 'Nea- 
bitt,' Bail! the Prince, * that picture ahall be yours.' At 
lifBt he thought thu Priuce was jukiug ; but fiitdiug he 
waH (la.'idnlly Hericu*s Ne^bilt, who wni a tit>aii of tho 
first water, made all Raitablo uL-kn(ivr]Ltlt;in(;nts fnr his 
II. H.'n gQnerofiJty, and next morning the 'Blue Boy* 
arriti'd ; followed in dun time by a tiiU i>f 8(i(i/., which lie 
bod the mti.«fuotiuii of piiyiag. 1 hoard Mr. Noabitt, 
ouuy 3''earii ago, tell the .story at uiy fiuiier*.^ table." 

This anecdote forma a portion of au able essay 
on art and artists contribuiL'd by that amateur 
nrtiat, the Rev. J. S. Trimmer, V'icar of Marston- 
on- Dove, in Derbyehire, and a descendaut of Gains- 
borough's bosom friend Sir Joshua Kirbv. To the 
reverend gentleman we are indebted for several 
instructive letters bearing on the anecdote, and 
also ou the difficulty of copying Gainsborough's 
works : for usually^ he ("ays, such cojiies are de- 
fective in figures or in the landacapDa, or in both, 
OS appears to be tho caw )>etween tho two "Blue 
Boys," with the usmd defects obiienable in the 
Westminster picture. Ho also mentions his own 
youthful devotion to art, and especially to all that 
concerned, or wa^ said about, the family hei-o 
(iaiosbomugh. At tho stage or life when youths 
store up for life-long remembrance matters in 
which they take a deep interest, the reverend 
gf^ntlemun heard his fatnar's gnest tell the story 
at HeMon Vicarage, where it bocamo a family 
anecdote as commiuiicated to Mr. Thombur}* for 
publication. Perhaps in losing Mr. Trimmer, the 
tine arts lost a duvuteu who might have become a 
bright and a shining star. 

Further nesearch to discover who Mr. Neabitt 
was, lias shown that ho belonged to the Lismor© 
family of Nesbitts ; that he wa» the John Neabitt, 
E*q., M.P.. who for about twenty yearn repro- 
sentod in Parliament either Wiuchelsea, Gatton, 
or Bodiuiu : that he inherited the property and 



[•l* S. V. Jan. 1, '70. 

fine old puntings of his uncle, Arnold Nesbitt, 
M.P. for Oricklade, who died in 1774 ; that his 
brother Arnold was chaplain to the Prince Re- ' 
sent; that the Prince and John Neshitt were ' 
*'on the best of terms"; and that Mr. Neshitt 
lived at Heston from about 1815 to 1820, i 

As regards this new phase in the history of the ! 
" Blue Boy," namely, its having formerly belonged I 
to the then Prince of Wales, there is not only the i 
direct testimony of Mr. Nesbitt, but also the fol- ! 
lowing corroborative considerations : (1) That the | 

Srince was a patron of the great painter when | 
ving, and after his death, we are told by the ' 
Rev. Mr. Trimmer that he sent for and con- ! 
doled with his widow on the loss of her talented : 
husband ; (2) That it was about the hanging of | 
the portmtfi of the Princess Koyal, and the Prin- i 
cesses Augusta and Elizabeth, punted on commis- ' 
sion for tne prince, that Gainsborough (]^uarrellcd ' 
with the K.A.S and exhibited no mure pictures at 
the Royal Academy ;^ (3) That if Master Buttall I 
was the planter's subject or model, he would be 
paid the usual fee, so that it is extremely im- i 
probable that either he or his father ever be- , 
came the owner of the finished picture, which 
owed all its celebrity and value to the extraor- 
dinary skill of the painter j (4) That a picture 
rendered doubly famous by artistic skill and a 
professional dispute was very likely to attract the 
notice of the palnter^s royal patron, and be pur- 
chased for his gallery, where its fame would be 
extended, as it was extended, amongst the highest 
of the land; (5) That it may be owing to the 
" Blue Boy " having been in a royal gallery, that 
no trace of its public exhibition has yet been found 
by the writer during the end of the last century 
or the beginning of this one ; and (6) that the 
first authentic i-ecords of the "Blue Boy" yet 
met with nncc it left the artist's studio are, a 
description of it when in Mr. Nesbitt's collection 
of paintings, and a brief editorial reference to it 
m The Times. 

Through the courtesy and urbanity of the pre- 
sent head of the lismore family, Alexander j\es- 
bitt, JBaquire. T.C., we are enabled to quote the 
following aamirablo description of the original 
" Blue Boy " from a catalogue of his great-uncle'e 
choice paintingii, and which speaks for itself : — 

" No. 63. Gainsboronrfu— A whole-lei»ia:th Figure, with 
a fine Landscape in theBack-tiFound. Thia moat incom- 
parable perfurmance ranka thia ver}- celebrated Master 
among the First Class of Painters, Ancient and Modern. 
It has the Grace and Elegance of Van Dyck in the 
Fieuro, with a Conntcnaace aa forcibly expressed and aa 
rich aa Murillo, with the Management of a Titian. It is 
a Picture which cannot be too highly apoken of or too 
much admired." 

This graphic description of a picture about 
which The Time$ asks, "Where a superior to 
Gainsborough in a fancied portrait P " becomes of 
obvious importance as a standard whereby to com- 

pare the leading features of the two claimants to 
be that picture. Glowing as is this early descrip- 
tion, it 18 nevertheless as applicable to the least- 
known "Blue Boy*' now — "barring," perhaps, 
some slight *' foot-prints" of time and dried 
varnish — as it was to the picture in Mr. Nesbitt's 
collection at the beginning of this century. A 
striking proof of this is furnished by a recently- 
written, but brief outline of the least known 
" blue-clad " boy by Kichard James Lone, £aq., 
K.A.E., the great-nephew of Gainsborough, la 
acknowledged authoiity on his works, and aa 
artist highlv apoken of by Allan Cunningham ts 
one " in whom much of his great uncle's hjAnt 
survives." In the same spirit, it may be added, 
that his daughter, Miss Lane, seems to inherit 
not a little of Gainsborough's artistic skill, aa an 
inspection of her art-productions will show. Mr. 
Lane writes : — 

" I have carefully examined the picture. The figure b 
more elegant than the Grosvenor picture — the chara^er 
of the face far more pleasing — the minutest touches of tbe 
subordinate parts palpably Gainsboro'a. The compara- 
tive smoothness of the painting of the face might sa^e^ 
the hand of Dupont, hia nephew, who work«l for bin, 
hut would not interfere with the integrity of the worii is 

Now, when Mr. Lane wrote, he had no know- 
ledge of the early artistic description of the 
" Blue Boy " written upwards of sixty years pie- 
viously, neither did he contemplate writim; la 
artistic character of the least known "blue-dad" 
which he could so well do, but aimply to oonvej 
to the writer (whom he had not even seen) bu 
opinion of the integrity of the picture as Gains- 

But notwithstanding the disadvantage to Mr. 
Lane of comparing his inartistic touches wiA 
the early artistic pen-and-ink portrait, there i» 
found in both of them the some reference to ele- 
gance of figure and attractiveness of face. Mi^ 
it not, then, be furly held that this very remnk- 
ablo community of ideas and expresaons inses 
from their reference to the same picture, but at 
widely different periods of its lifetime ? 

In that able work, A Century of Paa^ia%i 

by Richard Redgrave, Esq., B.A.E., and to 

, brother Samuel Redgrave, £eq., it ia fnnvt 

j clearly, and convincingly argued that the lign, 

I touchy, sketchy, off-hand style so often attribated 

I to Gainsborough had little or no foondatiaD ta 

rest upon. On tlie contrary, it is shown by «- 

' amplcs and contrasts that he could and did paint 

carefully and durably, of which the face and 

figure of the least known ** blue-dad '* may 1» 

cited aa other examples. 

In Sir Joshua Reynolds's tribute to Gains- 
borough, another characteristic is me&tioiiedt 
namely, " the eager desire Gtunaborough alwajf 
expressed that his pictores ahould beaeen nacif 
as well as at a distance " — a criterion wbkh ii 

4* 8. V. Jas. 1, 70.] 



applicable to the leiut known "Blao Boy." To 
oon-professioaals, at least, it certmnly appears tbat 
tbe nearer the obwrver aiid the picture are to nn 
• nlinajy coUTersational distance apart, oa the 
•Aoie, or nearly the same level, the more life-lUie 
r'Ppti-are the face aud figure of the handsome, 
dark-eyed, fresh-coloured, '^blue-clad" youth. 

The talented author of Modet-n Painters, John 
Kuskio, M.A., contends that Qainsborough is the 
tinest colourist of the English school; that his 
powef of colour is capable of tiikin^ rank beside 

It of Kubens ; tbat his forma are all grand, 

iple, and English, and tbat he nerer lost sight 

pictur* as a whole. Now, it would require 

luAkin to do justice to the power of colouriug 

thf face and liguro of the least known " blue- 
lod," but this much may be said, thai, m a 
whole, the picture is a fine illuatralion of Mr. 
Kuskin's conclusions. J. 8, 

i7\flm continued.) 

(4** S. iv. 194, 202.) 

Tbe imtilution of this old custom is attributed 

Sir Reginald Fitxwalter in the 13th contury, 

lo, in a rustic garb and with his bri do, appeared 

tlie prior of the convent of Dunniow and 

leccsTed a tlitch of bacon aa a reward for his 

oozutancy.' Tbe second claim on record was 

made in the 7th of Edward IV., nud the flitch be- 

il'wed on >?teTen Sauiuel and hia wife (of Little 

■'•Xf on our Lady-day in Lent, sworn 

1 Bulcott, then prior), and tho third 

.11 iliHt ot tl-inr^ VIIL Id these three records 

tltere is DO mention of the lady, and she does not 

to have been sworn. t There is a reference 

e custom in Pierji Piowman : — 

' "' , since the peitilcncc, have pltKhtiyl 

, nud UtL* fruii th^y bring t'ortli aro 

J wichnut happiness, oud Quarrellini;; 

tu Ind thvy bavc nu cblldrL-n but slrife, and if they go to 

■>' record of the ccrvmuii}- id iu 1445, and iu 

of tbeuriory in llie CoLLotiitiu MS.S. : — 

I'lm.— Tbat one, liichard Wright, of IJud- 

y of Norwich, in the county of \or- 

:.nil rrquin-d ihe Uaron of I)anmgvr, 

. April, in tlie 23r(i year of thtj reign of 

y V'., and according to the form of tho charter, 

)u-fnrv John I'-iTiTion, prior of this place, and 

-1' i^hbuur-s and there was 

il, (fHc ilitvh of Imcon.'* 
: .-r<rd3 a llit-h of booon is 
ihe rE-WArd, but in ibo l.'i^t two ( 14G8 nnd 
iinnion. Tbe oath odinini-^tercd to Thomol 
-'. Aon his wife, in 1751, runs:— 
tHmon of bacon yon ^boU retrdve, 
/.;, . - ^-: il bcnco with l^vo and good leave; 
i-tw thi* is nnr ciLitom nt Dunmoiv well known ; 
Th<»u.;;U thi' pifjisure be ours the bneon'syour own." 
ladc lall the diOVrt^ttce whitlttir they received a ^.im- 
(^vmAa. a lijg) or a flitch (SaxoDj^icee; L>iiniah, 
lo deave or sLtt), the side of a ho^ . 

Dunmow, ualew tho devil bdp, to follow after the fliicfa, 
they never obtain it, aad unless they arc itcrjnred they 
Io« the bacou." 

A few vear« later Chaucer alludes to it iu hia 
7ri/<? of ]3ath :— 

*' The bacon waa not flt for my trow 
At Emcx in Dunmow." 

Bi'fore tbe revival of the custom in 1855, the 
lust delivery of tho flitch occurred on the iJOth of 
Juue, 17ol. David O^borue paiuted a very accu- 
rate picture of this on the spot, which is now in 
the possession of Captain Lucaa, of Hatfield Pove- 
ril. From this the well-kuown prints were taken. 

Sir. Harrison Ainaworih, in tno preface to his 
tale The FUhh of Bactmj says that a custom al- 
most precisLdy Bimilnr to that of Dunmow existed 
at Wnichenoupe, in StAiloi-dahire- Pcunant, who 
visited VVhichenoure Uouse in 1780, states that it 
was "renmrkabKt for the paiuted wooden bacon 
flitch, still huit^ up uver the hnll chimney, in 
memory of the siui^ular tenure by which Sir Philip 
de SoinervUe, in tbe time of Edward ill.f held tho 
manor/' The oath ran as foUowa :— 

♦•Jlearye, Sir Philip deSoraervUe, lord of Whichenoure, 
muintainoT and giver of thia bacon, that I, A., syth 1 
wedded B., ray wife, and syth I had her in my kecpinfc 
nnd nt wyllc, by a yerc nntf a daye after our raarn-of^e, I 
would not have changed for none other, fare no'fowlcr, 
richer nc powrcr, ne for none other descended of grcttfr 
Ivnage, sleepioK ne waking at noo time; and if the naid 
u. were Aole and I sole, 1 would take lier to be mv wjfo 
before nil the wynicn of I ho worldc, of what condytlona 
(loevcr they be, j»ood or cvyle, a.A hjpe rac Gotl, and hi* 
seyntvft, and thia flesh and all rtcshw. 

If the claimant were a villeyn, com and choe?a 
were given him in addition to the flitcb, and a 
horse was likeiA-iso provided to take him out uf the 
limits of the manor, all the free tenants thereof 
conducting him on his way with " Irompets, 
tabouretj^, nnd other manoir of mvn.4lralcie." 
Pcniuwt observes tlmt it Ims ''remained untouched 
from the first century of its iiiBtitution to tho pre- 
sent." The custom of the flitch has been prac- 
tised in France and Ltermany. At one abbey tho 
custom waa observed for COO years ; and Dr. Boll 
states that at the abbey of W icv hung a flitch of 
bacon with tho following lioes: — 
" I« therr to bo found a married man 
Tlinl in verity di.*rlare can 
That hi« maniti!;^ him doth not rue. 
That he ha« no f^ur of bin wife for a shrew. 
Ho may this bacon for himself down hew." 



(4* S. iu. 32, 206.) 

I knew Jamoa Bi^sett wcdl, as I have great 
reason to remember him. My father bon|?ht me 
a poem by him called the " Orphan Boy," now- 
above wvpnty years ago. T hav<? the (iftcenth edi- 
tion before me'; it contaiua one hundred ond sixty 



'4*&T. Jas. U^. 

IttihiL I lij*:0 b^ic;^ Terr fond of it KUined it in 
my inHm^jTy, u>d can oow n-peat it aiihouzb in 
my Hiienly -iitkt y*-MT. I hhx^ the ;?reat«£t reas*:!! 
fll^i t/i THmftnh^.T it, m, br Kpeatiog it to reU- 
^Xona And fri<rnd^, I obtained ^ic:'.-«n -pade-sce 
ruiijoA^, tnd uitfa this amount paid for the cqIt 
Df/kriirjf('M:hool i^urration I had at a Mr. Magus', 
Barr, n*rar WaUaj], now I think a nunnery. 

Nirarlr MXtv ji^aiii ago I callfed on Mr. Bi^sett, 
who baa then rfrmt^r^ Xf> I^t^amiuptfjn, near War- 
wicky where he had a public exhibition-room of 
panting, anti'j[uiti^.'*, coicjif medalj^. kc He then 
iiad a W}tA'^^ of the name of Ann Uatfaaway, ' 
Mid to be a dfucendiint of Shakespeare, and cer- 
tainly there was a great likenei^ to his portraits. 
It was A favour to obtain a kiss, but if this was 
granted it was expected that yoa gave her a i 
ahiUini;. I was one of the (then as I thought) ; 
Iwppj ones, and went away rejoicing. (Qy. Can 
any of your numerous cozrespondents sav'if the 
NAid Ann llathaway is still liring^) t would « 
hero remark that about three ^ears ago, when on > 
H visit to Atheratono, AVarwickshire, near Mr. [ 
liugdale's lodge gates, I met with a very old ' 
man Cabove eighty;, and being anxious to know 
of the inbubitants, &c.|Of the neighbourhood, in 
course of conversation 1 found he was bom at 
Stralford-on-Avon, and his name was '* William 
Hhakfi»peitre '' ; he wasthen living atOrendon, and 
had for h long time been working on the roads. I 
could get nothing frrjm him as to his early life : 
he left with his motlier when very young. As in 
the case of Ann Hathaway, 1 really thought the 
likeness was very like the Shakespenre profile. 
(ily. Is ho living P) Perhaps Sir Geor^ Chet- 
wynd of Grendon Hall might oe able to give some 

While on a visit at a farm-house atBaddesley- 
Knsor, I frequently heard the old farmer say to 
the maid and somulimcs to the other servants — 
" (;omo hackle " (or kackele or hackel), " for bed." 
I have not met with the word kackle in " N. & Q." 
('an any reader of *' N. & Q." say where it may 
be found ? On a barber's sign as I passed I read 
this curious request — '' Come to tne poll and 
assist, &r." The name I forget. 

Where can X find this quotation ? — 

*• Why Uo(!ii thwn fluai torment me so ? 
I iieviT <Uil thorn wronj; ; 
I'll catch them with my furcfinger. 
And crack thorn with my thumb." 

In " N. & Q." (4i»' S. iii. ;W2) I find some 
notes of ilio Norton motto, '*God us ayde," "The 
fait' of Iho NortouH," kc, ; and a Mr. Stkphen 
Jackkon of theKhil(H,MiilhamMoor, Craven, says, 
'* some yearn ago aaothcr family of the same 
namo was resident in or near Nottingham or 
Northnniplon (I forget which), and whose arms 
Aiid motto wore the Ktiuie.'* This is a miittake. 
The Norton h« alludes to was a distant reUtiou 

of myself: his name was Fletcher Norton, Esq., 
of Eiton Manor, new Bottesfotd, whose azicestor, 
Sir Pletcher Nortsn. canse from Xorton Conyen, 
near Kip?n. in Yorkshire. The motto is " I have 
fought uie iTOod fight.'' He was Speaker of the 
House of Commons. I cannot at thia momest 
say the exact quarttfin^s of the seat one of which 
a brother of mine hat. This Fletcher Xoitoo 
died absut four years ago ; I was at the funeziL 
His lady died some two years after : and I do not 
know any other of the name of Xorton now liTiof . 
My great-grand father, gnukd£ftthery and mothers 
nsine was Xorton. Otae of the family died st 
Croydon about seventy yean ago» leaving a large 
proper^'. His name was the same aa my own- 
viz. Ch'nstopher Norton. This p iuperty my grand- 
father, then living at Dnyton in the county of 
Stafford, enioyed, and lived to spend it all. 

Make wha't use (if any) of these notes and 
queries, abridge or alter at yonr pleasure, and ex- 
cuse the liberty taken by an octogenarian. 

Chbistofhsr NosToa Wrioet. 

50, Addi;^on Street, XoCtingham. 

(3'* S. viL 17a) 
Ijet me add to the passages whii^ St. T. Im 
brought forward one in Dodsley'a OU Haft, t. 22, 
" Take physic at the spiii^ and at the/a/^" Dr. 
Johnson quotes one from Hryden's Juvmai — 
** What crowds of patients the town-doetor kfll% 

Or how lastyif/2 &• raioed the weekly bilU" 
I have not been able to find any more panages, 
j and aa it is not in Nares'a Glonary nor in tbe 
short indices which Gifibrd and Dyce have added 
I to their editions of our dramatist^ and as it pro- 
bably would have been so had it occurred moR 
frequently, it must be a somewhat raze wori, 
' though there is no doubt from these instaocei 
that it is one of the many old Bnslish woida 
which were taken out to America, and there mors 
fondly retained than in the mother countzyj and 
which have of late years been called Americanuo^ 
simply from tlie strange ignorance which com{uIett 
of dictionaries in this country have shown wom 
old dramatists aud old writers generally. 

It seems curious if more instances will not te 
found, for there is no reason why frU should not 
be used as much as ^rinff, and it ia, I belief) 
like many of our old EngUsh words, stall ia <^ 
renoy among the peauantry. 

In Shakspere (twte Mtb. Cowden Clarke) ** 

have it onlv in the full form, "ftiU of the leaf," J* 

Hick. 11. Act III. 9c. 4, but there it is in exact 

opposition to spring, and should perhaps ^ 

I pomted — 

I *■ He that hath sufiier'd tliU disorderM q>riiig. 

, Hath now himself met with the fall, of leaf": 

I Spring being in full the spring of the leaf. 

S. V. Jam. I,70.J 



tou;fli not very fond of eonjecluro (which, I 
Tilt, as oftt'U — if not often«?r — mars aa mends), 
_^ould be inclined to alter that flomowhat funny 
b notici'd only by the Collier MS.) poaaoge 
Tcmpttt of Siiakftpere — 
" S(>rin^ cume to vou at the hrtlie&t, 
Ju ilic very end of hanesl/* 

** fWl come to Tou at tho farthMt, 
1o the very enil of harvest," 

>iB n-oiild make adminible eenae — "May you 
■11 your crops in before any bad wentUer of 
tiunn. " The e.xpIaurUiuu uf tni:) wodld be that 
printer, or printer'6 buy, did not underatand 
wurd full (as, though not unused, it aeoms 
I, and seeing that anme cea-son wa^ Tvant4-*d, 
that aummer, autumn, or winter would be 
iblo too nnich^ put in tprmg on hje own 
llity ; ujid aa in Ibopo davR there wna no 
of the press, n prinlt^r could do what ho 
liked wiUi an nulUor. 

The Colli<^rMS. rends ruin, wliie-h \& uusatiisriic- 
tory (na rao^t of its T»'ftdin;;^ are) for three ren- 
SOBS : Cl)rai'Fi u tiiich a Tory indetinito \?ord ; 
(211 think we want clenrly a sea-^nn ; (3) one 
doea not quite SRe how rain would have been 
changed into sprwif in this po&aage. There are, to 
,4)#a nre, three letttnv in common. 

Jter all, the old reiadinii: will atand in tbo 
that iiw winter would w ^<i mild and genial 
th*'y would have elornnl sprinj^ and pummer. ] 
niH4t riiinembcr wo are in a nift^jiie and an 
intry. Kra'Iu HJU3. 

#orrj' I did Prof. Gervinus uninten- 

in Tuy Mjcond letter on " the Third 

Baiiquo." He only mentions the 

m I ppoke of to partiftUy condemn it. I fell 

■ from not following Captain 

f iif« a diaoiple of hid), and so 

ifi li^. „.orv. 

•toe b> 

v'8 M8S. I'l*" S. iv. 4.S8.) - 
' if Charles Dibdin, and therc- 
'•st(?d in onytbinf: which may 
.' him, mHy 1 be allowed to 
I . «fi to what he mean.s by aaving 
"d. n granddnughtcT of Mr. DiBdin, 
n n/Mier jp-andfulher'a mnnu- 
1 have perfectly nntierstood him 
tliftt 9b« podaesaed a cnllertinn of iiis ' 
rs, for such writinjrs of any mim, i 
■ liticnnt, aie almost nlways pfsorved 
lom ihey are written ; butitienot ' 
httl a man who wn)to with greut 
fur the piirpofio of enruiag a livuli- 
"■■'- think of pivwrviiig a second , 

mposed, and the lir^t would of 
: _,--d by the printers, unleas that ' 

race of people were very different in those davfito 
what they are now. It U true that the ladv of 
whom he n>eak« maj/ pos^ieas works of Dib^in's 
in MSS. which have nut yet boon given to the 
public. This, howevor, is a very unlikely and 
unsatisfactory solution of the diflicult^'. 

Finally, if LiOM. F. can without breach of con- 
6dence conlide to me, either through the medium 
of '* N. & Q." or privately, (he name of the lady 
in question, and the line of her descent from 
Charles DJhdin, he will exceedingly oblige 

Dor«I.A8 A!fD CLYnESDAI.E (3"* S. 3ui. 71.) — I 

have a letter dated "Orosvenor Place, March y* 
II*'', Iftlfi," and signed very distinctly "Douglas 
and ClutUedale." Is it the same family P 

P. A.L. 

Date of Entry ajtd Fuiat PmLTCATTON OT 
Works by Daniel Defoe (4''' S. iv. 477.) — 
ARTHrR JUll direct* nftvntion to the unusual 
period that elapsed between the entrv of MoU 
FtanderA in the books at Stalioners' Hall, and 
the date I have given as that of \\» publication. 
He also notices the fact that it was entered in the 
name of Thos. Edlin/'aa the proprietor of the 
whole copyright." 

1 cannot account for the dilliculty Mk. IIau. 
Ihu raised, except on the supposition that he must 
have alighted upon the entry at Stationera' Hall 
of the third edition, or of a fourth unknown to 
me. The date of entry he gives is January 12, 
172^, which, M he knows, would now be the 
same aa 17123, while the liret edition is atnlcd by 
me to hove been published by W, Chetwood on 
Jammry 1*7 in the precodin}j: year, and the title- 
page iBftctually dated 1721. Any earlier edition, 
fey Edlin, is therefore out of the question. 

If I brielly explain how I obtained the dates of 
publication of a great portion of the bookf* and 
pamphlutfi isftuod between 1080 and 1735, Defoe'a 
among the rest, Mr. \\\u. will see that I coold 
scareely fall into error. I left no accesaiblo news- 
]iaper or journal during that period unexamined, 
and took notes of the ndverlisement* anfe^pwrnnU^ 
and pmt publicntioD. The anniHmuements would 
frequently he—" Next week." '' In a few daya," 
"(>n Tuesday next," or " To-momjw will be pub- 
lished,'' itc. Then, of the aame work, the adver- 
liseraent would bo*' This day is published," Ac, 
followed on succeeding days by "Yesterday," 
*'0a Tuesday last," or "A few daya since was 
published," &c. 

Mr. Hall will find, on reference to The Pod 
Boy of Janimry 27, 1722, and to the aame and 
other joiinialfl of eevoral preceding daya, that the 
Jirst edition of Moll Flmtf/rrs was published when 
and as ^tat«d in the ChronuhNjicul Catalogite of 
Danirl Defots Works. If he should wish to aee 
the book "itself, there ie a copy in the Britiflfa 
Museum {Bih. Grat. 13,63(1.) 



[4'»»S.V. Ja:*. 1/70. 

As to Mr. Hall's suggesUon of nn nrrange- 
ment among the bookseUers, I thick he may be 
right. I have added a foot-note to p. 315 of The 
Life ofDanielDefoej stating that *' the trad© were so 
chagrined at Taylor having secured the enormous 
pronts of Jiobinson Crusoe to himself, that they 
formed a confederacy to publish future works of 
our author's imaginative genius." 

The dates of all the other entries of Defoe's 
-works in the hooka of the Stationers' Company, 

3 noted by Mr. Hall, confirm the accuracy of the 
ates respectively stated by me as those of publi- 
cation. W. Lbb. 

Bell Inscriptionb (4"' S. iv. 478, 620, 573.)— 
With reference to the statement and the innuendo 
of your esteemed correspondent Mr. Ellacombb 
^p. 573) I am instructed to say, that the volume 
which I mentioned in your impression of the 
11th uU., and which is still in the possession of 
Me.s8r8. Mears and Stainbank of Whitechapel, con- 
tains fac-timiles of all the bell inscriptions copied 
in Mr. John Mears's book, and abo of many others 
not to be found elsewhere. 

Thomas Walrsby. 

Golden Square. 

Vttlcan Dakct (4*'' S, i. 510, 590.) — Some 
time ago ■ I queried the meaning of the words 
^' Vulcan dancy," found in the old lyric " Hollo, 
my Fancy ! " and I now think I can answer 
my own question — for I was not satisfied with 
your editorial explanation about the *' welkin " — 
«'word, by the by, which has nothing to say to 
a "wheel" or a "circle," in my opinion. 
The answer, which I think is the true one, 
comes curiously enough from her Majesty's castle 
of Balmoral, where, on a late festive occa- 
sion, some Highland lads and lasses performed 
several dances, among which the report mentions 
the Hulican—A name I never saw before, but one 
eminently calculated to catch the eye of an ety- 
mologist. I think it gives an explanation of the 
above J'quory. Having made one discovery I 
fltumbU'don another, which, if you have no objec- 
tion, I shall make a " note " of here. I had in 
fact seen the HuUcan before, without knowing it, 
for I now believe it is the " Ulican " of the Jllican- 
ilubh-o, the title of one of the old Irish melodies. 
The Irish etymologists all say that this means 
" Little Black Cow/' or something of that sort, 
which, I think, is a good old Irish blunder. The 
term signifies " a dancing or choral measure." 
This could bo proved by a little show of ety- 
mology ; but the reader will take the Balmoral 
boys' word for it, the Ulican or HuUean means a 
** dance." As for the word dubh-o, it has appa- 
rent!;^ the same meaning. I think I see it in the 
Moorish dimmOj the Berber demke^ and the Arab 
towifj all meaning "dance," and represented in 
Irish by the word dump, a certain kind of ancient 

melody. Ulicanduhho was certainly a roimd 
dance like Hulican. And here I might astonish 
the Celtic etymologists by stating that the words 
Drimmeen-dubhOy tne name of another Irish air, 
have the exact meaning of Znicanduhho — a 
"dance " or "choral movement " — the usual free 
translation of the term being " Little Black Cow," 
as before. Strange that they should so jumble 
up this heavT-footed good creature with the light- 
heeled and frolicsome Terpsichore. But bo it is. 
I may here add, that the Irish dreim, the Anglo- 
Saxon dryme, and the old French Untrim, all mean 
music and dancing measure. 

So much for the " Vulcan Bancies " of England, 
Ireland, and Scotland ; the same things or newly 
the same, like a great many other things English, 
Irish, and Scotch which seem to " stand off in 
differences so mighty." "W. D. 

New York. 

Meaning of "Lttn" (2"* S. x. 287, 33G.)- 
The interesting article by Mr. W. H. HrsK, 
headed "Three Early Pantomimes" (4"^ S. iv. 
500), called to my recollection an inquiry made 
in your pages many years ago as to toe meaning 
of Lun in the following couplet quoted front 
Churchill's Jiotciad : — 

" On one side FoUy sits, br some called Fun, 
And on the other his archpatron Lao." 

The lines, as the inquirer justly stated, being made 
more obscure by Park's note, which explains that 

" Mr. John Rich, the raanapfcr of Covent Gardsi, 
acquired the name of Lun by bis excellent performance 
of Harieqain. in which he remained mirivalled for half i 

As this queiT was not answered (except pa^ 
tially by myself) it may be as well to note for 
the benefit of future readers of Churchill, as well 
as for all who connect the name of Lun with Hicb, 

" Lun had been the name of the famous man who repre- 
sented Harlequin at Paris ; therefore, whenever Mr. KiiA 
appeared as Harlequin, the name of Lun was inMrtedin 
the bills."— TAe Mirror^ or Acton* Tablet (published ifl 
memoirs of Tate Wilkinson, vol. iv.p. 163.) 

Charles Wrus. 

Origin of thb "Word " Asmonran" (4'*'S.iT. 
448.) — This word was the appellative of the valiant 
family of Mattalhias, and signifies, according to 
Eichhom (Ajyok. Schrif. 216), great or noble nj«; 
but at length came into use as a nomen proprim. 
Hence the books which described their noble ac- 
tions were sometimes called by the ancient fathers 
the boolM of the Asmonaans. Josephus calls 
these warriors 'A<rafiovtuoif fi 'Aaafioymm:f ytnd ; aUo, 
ol 'Affatiovaiov Tiai5«y tKyovoi (^Antiq. xii. 0, 1, DT. 
16, 4, XX. 8, 11, XX. 10, 1). And Josephus Go- 
rionides(pp.66,169,443) D^31DB'n or ^KJIDCH *33. 
When the Jews quote our books of Maccabees 
they term them D^WlD^'nn .^^tiO ^JB*, " the two 
books of the Hasmonseans/' according to B. Asa- 

^*S. V. Ja?c.I, 70.] 



pft-a in J/(?uj* Enaimj foL &,, and the lint book of 
cc»bcf3 ^XJOCTiV pcrtn, aa R. /Vsorias, /. c. 
if., fol. 2. b. The woi-d ]om aereoa with the 

-^l>- and *-l^- = nia^M, optinia-s, 
iDBgnuSi uiagoiq^ue famuli tii \ir, from a^-^", 

1. piD(n>i8 futt rW ovasit (for thU coudition i^ 
tbiiu^^bt by the AsiaticB to be peculiarly appU- 
cAble to the uoblo and honourable of a nntion. 
(CorapAre IC'J'D, Ta. Ixxyiii.Sl, Is. x. 16, xvii.4.) I 
'J. uultoti habuit ft\nmto8 et a^seclos. It is n 
mere etynu>lo;;'ipnl whim to derive the name 
** HfLomoDn^aiia " from n ccrtiun person of the 
name of Ifftflmon (p!XTt)t whom they include 
amcmgBt their ancestors. { Iken de Juda Macciibieo ' 
in fii/mboiis Liter., Brem., i. 172). although the 
notion is nncieut, for Josephus speaks of 'Aaa/iovaiou 
vai'SttT ^iryiyoif, and coll^ MattatUiaa vlhp 'ludvpovj 
Tov 2i\u<»--off Tou 'Aaoftatraiov. SotQO hnve a notion 
ihrtt this word i» derived from on'On, Juuulim^ 
th« jnat; but this wr^ not their chuntrteriatic (see 
Miicc ii. 4:?^ 2 llacc. xiv. 0). Tlie Syrijtc word 

ich corresponds with Aemonnean is ^n ^ v. ^ 

cheshamj ctmacitf not as Mu. IIexry Crossley 

Ihinka *^"f^ ^- , vhc^nn, ttmuUtut at. In the 

chronicle.^ iif It. Josfph ben Joshua, aUo inOans's 

'" irh David^ and other rabbinical writers, the 

1 cnrdinoia are called D'JICCn, Uasmo- 

> u^is There wns n town and n Htation of this 

naiufl. all origiaalinK in the idea of faluf^if*, (Jos, 

y. 27, Num. xxxiii. 29.) See the geueal^jry of 

ariaraue wife of Ilerod the Ureal, from Matta- 

iss and Asmonrcii-j in the Peiuttf Cyclopftdia^ 

4m. T. J. BUCKTON. 

WaterileM Uouh', lUckaiaiu worth. 

MoNpMEyTAL Brass (V S. iv. ol4.)— "Sir 
"illlain Vaus: Arg. within orlo of martletn, an 
utcheon gu." (Boutell's HrraMnj, p. 175). 

BoooABTs {X^ S. iv. 508.)— Can Mh. Hiosoit 
favonr me with any account — is it allowable to 
soy hi^onjf — of two boggarts which tlourlshed a 
foTT miles from him about the second decade of 
thiH cntnrv, mid bore the iiltnictive nnmes of 
Old Lob "'and "Old Jenny Groenteeth" P 


SibT. FLiiXF.R (4"' S. iir. a3o.)— In reply to 
[n. John E. Foster's query, I beg to inform 
ru thill there does not nppenr to have been any 
\f. of thi'3 nauio erciitod baronet; but in 107o- 
'20, tlifrt^ wtis Sir Thouias Filmor, Baronet, 

rbo married Elizabeth, d.ui^'hler of Bever- 

wn of Holbrook Ilnll, Suirolk, and was suc- 
;dod by his elde*t poti Kdwanl. He married 
irv, daughter of Jubn Witllia of Sounder, 
fordshire. This family bore arms: Sable, three 

bars and as many ciut^uefoils chief or ; croat, & 
faulcon on a — proper. Scat was at East Sutton, 
Kent- J. M, J, 

BdiDoat HoaBo, Cumberland RoaJ, BrLstol. ok n.vwHE, LAor op CmsiLTOC (4"' S. 
iv. 623.)— The question asked by M. C. ^. — "I 
should be triad to know whoso arms this shield 
represents r" — may, I think, be answered to somo 
extent as follows : — 

The arms In the first quarter of the first and 
fourth grand quartfi-s, bcloDgfrd successively to 
three families — Papanel, Somen, and Erdinton. 
Ilawyae Paganel, daughter of Gervase Paganel, 
irmp. Bich.l., was marriod to John do Somen. 
Their great granddaughter. Maud de Somori, was 
the wife of Heuiy de Krdiuton, or Krdington, 
who died 10 Kdw. L I believo that tliis detKient 
discloses one of the numerous instances of the 
a'^umption of the mother^s arms without change 
of name. Hero is another instanoj : — Pogimcl 
bore the coat : Or two lions pas:i»ant B. De Someri 
marries the heir of Paganel, and takes the Paganel 
roat, retaining his own uamo. Jirduiton marries 
the co-heir of Do Someri, and docs the samo 

1 know nothing of the local history whtcti 
M. C. J. is so agreeably illustrating. But I hope 
ho will not think me tro.'tpaH^ing on his ground of 
inquiry if X add, that the dato of the glass may 
be of great assistance ; and that the appearance of 
the arms in glass may probably bring the owner- 
ship down to Erdinton. D, P, 

Slaartu Lodge, Mulvi-ra Wells. 

**TrrREK Ladies plavino at Ball" (4"* 8. iv, 
517.) — I w^us familiir in childhood in the north 
of Ireland with this ballad : now, ala« ! quite for- 
gotten, except a line or two aud its refram, which 
differs from those recorded in '*N. & Q." : — 

** There were /«■» Uitica playing bull, 
Bey, lin, my Xanaie O ! 
A Kreflt h>r4 cnme to court (hem all : 
Tho &wan she docs swim boaaic ! 
" ID gave to the first a golden ring. 
Hey, ho, my Nannie O I 
lie f^vt to tlie second a far better thing. 
The M?«n she docs swim honnic. O I ^ 

The drowning of the sister occurs in llie niill- 
stroam ; and the finding of the bmlv by — whom I 
know not— a harper or the true knfght; — 

*' Ho made a I)arp of her breast Imnc, 
J Icy, ho, my Aannie O t '' 

The harper takes it to court, and — 

" n« ,H't it Juwu upon a «t«ne, 
llcy, ho, Diy Nannie O ! 
And it be^an to iilay it-tlone [alone]. 
The swan >die dotis 6wiai bouaic, O ! " 
Cef«ra tUmnt. 

2. Can any of your readers help me to recover 
"A Child's Dream of Heaven,' recited to us 






?oung5ter« in the uureery by a religious old cron« ? 
t -ivfw in bftUnd mpAinire : but each socoiid line 
onded with ihe word Mamma* Aa, far instance, 
A more examplo of the form, but no portion of 
the poem, which has u(tt*rly fnded from memor)*. 
It probably cuue &om Scotland is the bogioniag 
of this century : — 

** I dreamt I wns la lieaven Inst ulght. 
It woii M bri^'bt ah lUy. Mfunmi. 
So fair and pleasant woa' the aij{fat» 
I had beuu friad lu suy, MomitiA.** 

3. The lines tbot I now pro*'et'rl t*» quota are at 
mrsteriuua import Ui u ctiUd; I wiah to know 
wliollier thev lielonged to a legend or to a 
riddle ? — * 

" A* 1 weal down hy yon owtla wnll,* 
I hurd a spirit piC'c a c«1I. 

And ftll the bcUs in hcuven rtniok eleven." 
There was ftoniethin^ fiwful yet fusciimtiug 
about these rhymea; but I forget to whnt they 
all tended. Vn- 

Olu Fbemch Wuhds (4'*" S. iv.90, 178, 541.)— 
Mb. pAyNE is no doubt riffht in hia «ugfft)stion 
that hulln lueaiifi " buwl." The word occurs twice 
in the Mrmorinh of LvttdoM : ** unum boUc pro 
miugbDdri/' uiid " 12 Lonflps (handled veaselj of 
gold, called boUei.*' 

X would further sufirgost that the word gmuhA 
has not been rightly explained by 3'our corn;- 
epoDdents. The yawksy or gaudets^ were the 
larger beodB in the rotary, or patemo&tor, being 
00 called in ftllusion to Luke i. 15 ; the smaller 
beadfl biing* cdlbd axti. 

The t and c being often uaed intorchangeably 
in writing, escroifz should probably be written 
erfroi/s, moaning " 2 baldekins of narrower breadth 
from beyond sea.'' 

Seiti tior, probably means a "saddle-cloth of 

Image de eokiUe — "imago of shell" — means a 
cameoj probably on a plate of gold. 

Heibt T. Kilbt. 

riEWEfi: PiTMYK (4'^ S. iv. 632.)— Probably 
tlie adjoining parishcB of Iluish nnd Pitney, co. of 
Somerset, arc those songhl by Y, S. M. The 
name of Cliflc is to be mot with in the locality. 

W. H. CoTTEtL. 

BrixtoD, aw. 

IIiLDTARD Morro (4»* S. iv. 207, 371.)— No 
doubt W. B. C. ia quite correct in his remark 
upon the interpK-tftliun which J. O. had put upon 
this motto, I bplit-VH it i« not known for eortnln 
how or when tho motto originnunl ; but the tra- 
diiionaiy account in the family i?, that the gmnlHt* 
wna the captain of a garridon which wa£ seantily 

* 1 localifletl thu castie. 

provisioned, but who by t<Anding out half his mun 
! was enabled to hold out till he wo^ r - ■* i 

The otvst — A cock, sable, beak- lud 

j wattled, gu. on a wreath — was j/..,., . . . the 
I family lur thfir behavianr at the battlo of Coek- 
bridge, or Towton, near York; on which iioca- 
aion the biidgo itself was aucct'«ftilly defended 
against a body of Yorkt^ta by Kobort' ilildyaiilf 
commander for the lionw of Lamiisl'T ia that 

battle, and father of Sir Hob** rt Mililyunl, 


, a ner- 
Bon of great note in tho reigns of Hfury VL, 

Kdw. IV., nnd Rii*h. III.; luid w« 
eallwl Hobiu of liidilesdale. 

The more ani:ient, nnd it must he confoa«ed 
hftudaouier crest, had been on a wreath, a roe- 
buck, proper. W. H. 

The Phrase "Dear mb" (-l'" S. ir. 631.)— 
There can be little doubt,! think, that tho phrase 
'*Oh deor me'* ia a corruption of tho 8pnuiah 
" Ay de mi" (" Woe is me' ), known to many of 
your renders prohalily in the burden of the .Spanish 
poem, "Ay de mf, Alhama." It wasi 
probably aGout the time of James I, : nnd when 
once in use, aucIi curl ospre.*«ions as " Dear me," 
*' Oh dear," *' Dear, dear,'* would come to be used 
in time almost as a matter of course. 

Hkn«t T. Rir-BT. 

Ehgltsh WnfKs (4»'' S. iv. -JliiJ.)— The Em- 
peror Napoleon III. plnnted a slip from the relfr- 
orated vine at Hampton Court Palaro, at No. 11, 
Grofvenor Street West, London (rtV. 1840); which 
WM transplanted to the garden of 100, Sloono 
Street, Belgrave Square (cir, 18C2), 5Ir. F< 
Wustemsnn realised thirty-three end a half 
pounds of grapes from it. and made four and a 
half gallons of wine resemoling sherry in l&tSS. 

N.B. The vine is in the open uir. 

41, Eccleston Squiu-o, S.W. CUABLIB VlVIA3f. 

TffE ToWEtt PnETE!tNATtJTLU.S (4^ S. iv. 078.) 
The shadow of the axe on the Towor wall is a 
story which I discredit, as utterly as I do it* prior 
appearance in 1848. I was at that period resident 
within that fortress; and, had such a marvel 
occurred, must have heard of it from one or other 
of my neighbours. Its penuy-a-Iinor has, bow- 
ever, chosen a favourable date for hia iuvenlion — 
the bicentenary of that regal mtmler, the " lastiiis' 
sliame" whereof no di<>contiuuancc of its annual 
atonement can efTace, any more than its fellow- 
bloodstain of 170.3 can be wiped otf the wing of 
tho French eagle. For my own myflteriouH visit*- 
tioD, in li?17, I will but repeat niv ititl'^menta 
in "N. & Q." (2"'» S. x.). neillinr euhtrarting 
from, nor adding to, a H^lluble of their originid 
verity. Edmuwii Lkxtilal SwirrRi 

Sib Bbxa.'? Tuke (4»^ s ■- '-' • *M;ni[rfc 
your correspoudeul Tkwa r .1 

fijar he is not correct in sa\ji.„ ... J-. i l.,., liit-d 

in 153(5. The wiU of a Sir iJiina Tukc was dated 

r»S.T. Jas. U70.3 



thia fBmily -would bt^ mo-^ 

two fUr 

. .'"..Ml JV- 


*lU«E-o\-tK>« ItiK Meddlriw " (4'" S. iv. fi07. ) 

Hie ab. - .-:r;T r -v '■-■"'■.nut/*, 

but m I < >t' 

cQQtA« w,.>.,, ■(.,..*. ., ;,.„t ni»- 

mp w w ia«i:^»... J is, '^PiUih-pliiatfrH 

tr^ thv mnuth. to stop ttiv talkuig aad uhmI- 

dibfr" ' J. n. 


Um> > 


111 »' 

nf ii 


niit 1 
lw«*»>Il It 
Ih" ''Iiif'". 
of I ' 

Tar it a* ft 

'llix (ran 

N0T£5 Oai BOOK&. KTC 

to vl'i I" ^ 

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[4*S.V. Jas.!,*??. 

Death of William James Smith, Es4). — It is with 
great regret that we annonnce the death of thia accom* 
pluhetl gentleman, who was formerly Librarian at Siowe, 
where be ^nbtleu acquired mnch of that intimate 
knowledge of the men and politica of the past century, 
which enaUed him to edit so eflectually the fonr vols, of 
GrtmUU Papertj published by Mr. Mun^y in 1Bj2. Mr. 
Smith's Essay in the third Tolame, in which he main- 
tained that Lord Temple wrote the celebrated letters of 
Janios, was very ingenious if not convincing. Mr. Smith 
was at the time of bis death, which took place on Christ- 
mas Day, in tlie sixty-ninth year of his age. 

Death of Thomas Creswick, M.\, — English Und- 
acttpe-painting has lost one of its most genial exponents 
in Mr, Thomas Creswick, whose works bare for upwards 
of forty years regularly graced the walls of the Boyal 
Academy. At the time of his death, which took pUu» on 
the 28th Dec, Mr. Creswick was in his fifty-ninth year. 
" His works,** says The TimeSf " like himself were plea- 
sant and cheerful, erer taking the sunny Tiew of nature, 
and by his death the public has lost a benefactor, and the 
profeasioD an esteemed brother." 

The Aihetueum, which has been slightly enUige<l to 
meet the requirements of additional space rendered neces- 
aaiy to give ^ect to the increased attention which foreign 
literature is to receive In its columns, will, it is nndor- 
stood, be from this time conducted under the immediate 
sopezintendcnce of Sir Charles W. Dllke. 

Rumour is reported to have done scant justice to 
Mr. Twisleton's forthcoming volume on Jl':viu8, which, 
it is said, will contain some new and remarkable docu- 
ments calculate! to clear up, in a very striking manner, 
the mystery in which the authorship of thoe extra- 
ordinary I<ett€rs has hitherto been involved. 

Death of Wilhblm Wackeiuiagxu — English phi- 
lologists will learn with deep regret the death of this 
accomplished pupil of Lachmenn, whose reputation 
almost equals that of the brothers Grimm. His Deutteheg 
Leubuch and Dtut$che$ WarUrhuch are doubtless well- 
known to many of our readers. Like the Grimms, he 
was not only an able and industrious editor of early 
monuments of German national literature, but a frequent 
contributor to Hoffman von Fallersleljen's Att'DeutMche 
Bi&tter, and other periodicals of a similar character; and 
was, moreover, a jmet of no ordinary ability. Wacker- 
nagel was bom at Berlin in 1806, 

The mention of Wackemagers contributions to the 
archanlogical and philological journals of Germany re- 
mind* us that DUmmler of Berlin has just issued the 
fourth volume of Jacob Grimm's Kleinere Schriftenf 
which contains upwards of sixt^- articles on literature, 
folk-lore, mythology, and superstitions, not of Germany 
only, but of almost all people and languages. 



Tsrtlculan of Price, ke., of the f illowlnc Booki to be lent rtlrfct to 
the fCBtlemcn by whum they u« required, whoee namei uid wldreMM 
nra gircn fbr thxt purpoKi — 

Tim VlCM: aPtieiii by the Aiithorof" Junlui." Txmdon, IW». 
Ubhoihn or J. T. 8XBIUCS, UtiriATuitK rAtimcR to I1i8 Hajutt. 
Sto. IHSK. 

BoBiRfiKi'H TA1.M or ms CicvruHT. Svn. TMInbunrh. 1M7. 

A I.rmR TO TiiR DCKK or OnArroa ox tuk I'rbskkt Statk or 

' FrsLio ArrAinn. Almon, nw. 


IS ■' Tni Beitoh," " North Uritox." akd " AtiDiTOO." 170*, 
Trni Ix>irno?« ML'HxrM or Politicm, MiscrxLAitiES, A5D Lituu- 

TITRB. 4 Voli. Am. 1760, 1771*. 
Vox HnfATDH. 1771. 

RiUHoim roH nEJEonim thi Etidrscb or Mr. AhMoy. \MT. 

IXUIA, 177». 

yViMtd Iijr irutiam J. Thenv. A*?.. 40, St. Otoree'i S<iiisrc, S.W., 

Tmt BK.imis or rxa MAOAXcm axo otmks rxaiosra 
I Wore.*, ftc. iTTt 


Thr CLrBs or Losdos. with ArwcIbw oC tbi 


Scots iiAr.Axm fijr iwa, kmi, ud mt. 

ACTonKAPHic Mirror. If in BoiRbcn, tlw want ot ^ ink tt 

would be DO obrKtioD. 
CATALocm or ExHiBtTtos or MBDi.jn-AL Works or Alt, a 

M Sooth Kriuiofton in IMS. Zf in Qainben,1be wantof tteftntl 

fmrtii not ot»cc4eu to. 
XOTES AXV itcRRiRs. Tob. I. «nd IL Third Svriei. 
Wanted bf A mdnw Jrrrite, Brtehia, K.B. 

nirroRT or TRa Foaan or BoasaapALR. Iv Mr. STcwWote- 

Wanted br JTr. ffMry n«*wU, Cvr Hni. SoiMafe. 
TooKK's IIirroRT or Pricrm. Vol*. V. sod VI. 


PRXSAST** Totra from Dowxuki TO Ai«rox Moos. 
T'TBoira'B Hutort or DBRarBViRR. 
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Wanted br Mr. TVmmu Beet, BookKller. lA, Cottdalt SiraM. 
BoDd Street. hoBOtm, W. 

^atitti ia Correfjiaiitrciitl. 

naiTRaaAi. CATALoatTR or Art Books. AU AMitimmmaiO^ 
rnrtione ahomid he addrtteed to Uu Editor. SomUk Jttmlmtm Mmmm. 
Lomdtm, W. 

We art maroidabtw compelled tn lo ptmtfome tmtU mtxt wBdt CteMT 
to BodEton, Fonndatioo and DedicntI 

Our CoRRRSPOXDRsn teitl, wt m 
hotkfor iktir »akea a> weU a* our owb - 

I. Thalthef dkovld write ctearig amd dietime&f—ami oReoS Mrtf 
the p^er onljr— More trpecially proper names RMTwordi rb< iluma^ 
tcAiek am expla»atiom mag bf rtqwired. TTr niiiiiiiif anifc r lain fi paw 
€mt MAat a Corrtepomdemt doet wot think KortA t4e IrvnUi 4^«Wl( 

II. That C o rr etp tmdrmU eSomJd pire tkrir mam^* amd addrttmt:mi 
token writimo oaoNinnoiu/jr comattmicaU tkem to Ike Sdiior. 

III. ThaliiootMiiiin»»k<»ddbereriMdbgprteiMer^naeatoi£h». 
eknpler, and page ; and r^firtnee* to " N. * ti." hg mriUt rolaK, »< 

IV. CiwTtepoHdenU vrko reply to Qveriea *o»dd add to Aeir nH^aftw 
b/f prtciwe reiferenre to irolime amd page lekert $itck iMirkM an lei' 
found. 7'V umieeirm to do tkit mrree the wriler rerg n'ftfe t i iwH t, >* 
entaila mwcA to tuppig nick omieeitme. 

Fuller Worthies Lisrart— We kave reeeived frvm tkt Btr.i. 
Oro«art a reptw to the iMTtr of Correct Text*, from trUek it 
t^at, "fpile of a eeeondand a tkird rerite, tke «Aer£a 
Latin ttrtea animndrerted on, vom printed oWuneorrec 
not room for Mr. (j roeart'* verg long letter, vAtrA teas obtritimbr vriH* 
under the intitmuion—u-liirk u?e tnw to be Unfounded— tkat M ff)**^ 
trru ij^/luenced by unfriendly molivet. 


Firat Series nang intereMting article* on tke deriratipm <^Mi 

A Readlnc Ca«e ft>r holdlns the weeklj nnmbert of* N. a Q." ta ■■* 
read;-, and may be had of all BookKllara aad Newimen, piMli.Wi 
or, free bf poet, direct from the Publisher, fbr U. Bd. 

••*Caaejfor blndiocthe Volumn of " N. A Q." may be had of Uv 
Publleher, and of all Bookaellere and Newnnea. 

"NOTRS AXI> QuBRiRS"IipnbIUhcdatnoon onFRiDAT.andbda 
iMned in Horthlt Parts. The Snbacrlption fbr STAvrRO CtffV 
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TlONs VOR THR EDITOR ihould be addreMod. 

CuRK or ConoH, Chest, akd Broikhitai. Disobveb, n !»• 
LoroCK's WAnas— From Mr. Hallet, Angel Inn. Ada. bMT Tl^ 
mouth; "Forupwardiof four reari I nilTtTed ftom RTCTTbaiOHP 
and Borenew of the che«t. J wu ftequently nnable to ton Vf^ljt 
bed, but the Wafen nCTCr &IIed In affbrdins me almort Inelaat rn^ 
Dr. I^ooocIc'b Waftrt care asthma, oonnimption, eooiju. and •U'*' 
order* of the bmth, throat, and Innn, and hare a 
Price tf.Ild. and s«.lM. per box. Sold V rU Medidne 

MODIRK rtPS^m 0511.— That BTrtt inYfntlDn iht "Cilriw*ar^ 
whtph llmen ill the pritciiml ctifntsuf the play, and hu fupcr^^i* 

*l>l'f*'1'ikinifd " Slop-witrh," let-m* ilh*l* to Ijc cd 1 i»wJ i h *■*• J^ — ^ 
Itiflt ■i.ll] Diikr'MLMnu tnvtatlon the "A'i(>/r*j H'nJ.A." Tht;]W:*}" 
key belnE i«qiiirtd rendcrf lh«M Walchf:* IntD^pcnaJtlfl Utllirtrtrui^' 
the nrrTfiiii and iovalldi. Thmmnnijui tiumhern^jtr^noi Sf J**!^ 
aj] i*rt»4frilip worlil, fi a mnvlfiplriEr [irfHiF uf ttir!r rnpat ntiUljF: ^°T 
INrliafS rBr[rp fnun i to Im rwlrfrn^ Tlni'ti'On'li nf tUen% arr rnl*?™r 
tiircil by Mr. .T. W, BJi.H«USf.rtHi]d DumI iStrrcl„aiir] of thfrjiwuil^r 
loiTf T^mj^CJ^ Hkll. I.oi^'liiii, v.'I>ij ienili [kMt free Cor »if. a ia*il iif**^ 
Inc hfatcncsJ inuDi^hlc! >jpi>ii vratt'li-inuiQ^. 

noTES * QUBBIBS" is nflrtsnd ftr tnuun^MlaR iteial- 

S, V, Jax. e, '70.] 



LOXDOy, SATt/JUUr, JANUARr S, 1870. 

COKTETTa— S* 10«, 

KOTBSc— Foiindatinn und neflicatloii StOBCA, S7 — Cbnn- 

oer to Buckloo, ^S - HcaVs N«w TnUincnt. /&. — Tbo 

SatifmAl, or Uoly i*raU ~~ Or. Arnold of ILuffby •— Bcogars 

becomin(f Landed Pruprietwi ! — " Ij«ivlc)? no Stiuo tiii- 

turnrd *•— Club-fo 1 : Kirk-wipe — Ttp-rooin Ethics. 20. 

QIT B a I B9 : — H^nr.T Burk!u, 3A — America and lliR Otbli!-- 

Blr. .loliii Aiigoll — Bi*t)Uf> — n>"v. .?am-"i llirtoii— Anotlicr 

Boy " — Apoiiriii "i :r Stromboli. 

.., ise;— Bridff«noi: \\\Aii (York- I 

1 iiiii-i — p.i-viil.." > 1 11 iJburrtifB — 

I 1 v;— ihin-M K.iii.ily — Harroy'* 

CoriiwiUl." IHin — Hui-knall 

1 tv ITnti*!.'-" Life and OpinloDS 

— PiL-kcridRB, 4c.— 
1 — Sadown. — Natyre 

I : u Arm!) — Vaiidon 

Jjl iiii.iL.- Vowt:! S lUi'Jri - \S'li.:«iUii.a, llfcHioundei, ic. 
— Wordjiworth— Eb.iieMir Jones, 31. 

" iiain — T!ie 

i sid Muuicl): 

• Shake* pea re 

— 1.1 ul>- 
•. Ac, 45. 

. " L'-ver of 

'.nwur— Bib- 

:ilUi \t'a*ui s ma dt-ep " 

<«UhC3* Oil •NIUKS, A.I 


le sabject of fuandation stones bna been twice 
led in *" N. & Q.,'* but without eliciting much 
iiiuatiou. An early instance is that of Salis- 
Oithcdral, at the refounding of whirU by 
Pooro in 12*20 several cominemordtivo 
were Iftid. The bi^^hnp laid one for the 
A second for Xhn nrcbbishop, mid w third for 
»lf. WilHaui da Leuj^^uuspee laid niiotber, 
rife nnotber, and otliera were probably laid 
ler pt^ryiui^. It in retnarkiibit* tbnt no less 
' '" *' iiagos exiist (tn tbo exterior 

-■ directed bv the pontitical 
u iiiuj'. I lire 'twelre in number and I 
illy, and trues of Ruch cro8ses niav 
..^-...uidly be found tinder the whitewuh 
[tlw walla. Tbofte. liowL'Ver, beinj;: external and 
ni]mbt:r, thv n. -^ibly bare some con- i 
ith the t tones. All of them 

iolAid V ] ; florv of brass with 

option, which in a tlorittlcJ cro^s of stone. 
rbi have indicated the site of the stone ^ 
the pope. (>n the exterior of Uffington 
Uurk:?, twelve crosses exist, and this a{j;ain 
^tfends to frbo^v their relation to the internal , 
of cou*ecration. ITiev are not, however, 
•Iv as the Pontitical sp<^cities — three , 
—but are dii«po4ed as follows: three ' 
^*^>^t the eJUt triplet ; one under the triplet in I 

the north, and one under that In the south tran- 
sept; one below the string -co uise on the south 
wall of the nave ; three under the west triplet ; 
one under the siring^ on the north wall of the 
nave ; one under the string on the south wall of the 
ch&noel; one in the gable of the dooi^ln the oast 
wall of tho sofuth transept. The bust is within a 
quatrefoil; tho others have bod brass crosses 
inlaid within a ciicle. 

Affixed to a pier in Aahbourno church, Derby- 
suire, is the plate from the original dedication 
stone, which waa fouud dtuiiig some repairs. It 
bears the inscription in uiajtiscule letters : — 

••ADno ab laciiniadoufl Dni M"tv*JC»M viii*- kl' Mali 
dedic^ta est hec eccia cc hoc altane coDsccrntiim In lionorfi 
«ci Oswald! n>^« et mnrtim a venerabili patre Domino 
Uugone do I'utiihul Covcntrensi Epucopi>." 

The foundation stone of the church of S. 
>[iohael, Peukevel, Comwall, id in the norlb- 
eiist angle of tbo chancel, and consists of a slab of • 
l^ranite about 5 inches thick by 2 feet G inches 
square. It was laid, no doubt, ns Mr. Street 
informs us, in the time of Bishop Walter BroDe»- 
combe, at the consecration of the church on 
August \'\ 12C1, in honour of S. Michael. It 
bears a cross patt^c and the letters sci uicua ABcnX 
and also wau kpi, commemorating the patron 
iaiot and the bishop. Both of these, however, 
appear to be rather dedIc4itiou than foundation 
stones. Another example U preserved in the 
wall uf the chapter-boii»ei uf Christ Church, 
Oxford, beiDj^ the foundation or dedication stone 
of Wolsey'* College at Ipswich, laid Juno 15 
1528, by the Bishop of Lydda. It \a engraved 
in Dr. Ingram's Memoriah t^ Oxford. 

With regai-d to tie deposit of coins in founda- 
tion stones, an earlv instance is mentioned in 
Trollope's Life of l-'ilippo tSOosd, in quoting a 
dinry of the period. 1 ho writer was present os 
the concrete fur th)> foundation of the Strozxi 
palace was euuiplete'I, and relates that as became 
up at that moment Filippo himself was there, 

"And 119 T <(hh} by his sJdc, pavd he i«) fni', * Take a 
stonp .ind it io,'' and ho l did. liidtod, I put my 
baud iiito my inH'k >t while lio^»looil by» and tbrriw into 
tho founddtioii an old tptattrino marked with the yigth.** 

lie ailds— 

liin «on) *^on my ahnulder, 


the foundations" (tlit-r were 

** And I took C.uarnicri*' 
and he Ic-K'-d <)''wn into 
laid ffiMu L - i!w[0. "And I j^nro him n ijnai- 

trim wiilj I it l\> throw in. And 1 innde him 

(tirow in .1 li.L^U of thimask roMs tliat he had in 

hu baud." 

Thoreeby in his ZVcfn/, under Aug-. 27, 1722,notca 
that he ** went in procession to the Burrow Lane, 
where Parson 'Kooiusuu Itud the lirst stone of the 
new church (and three guineas under it for tho 
workmen)." This is a new view of the object of 
the deposit, and one which doubtless has been 
taken by the workmen themselves from time to 
time. Whether ixom this or some other cause/ 



it ftpneora tUat no cx^Uons iiv<iU«U to lere&l the 

;;! -vork wjiii i 

- !■! the. ] ■-,...;.- ..'. . . 

ti. ', iuf^of tbo iint stotiQ of II 

cL Such a strvico is inwi- 

^Dcd u? ji iiued in tbu Jla■^^":l' 

of Quof-n ]i ■ "U tbo inyiog tho tn^t 

s^uu^ of tlje cbnpei At bouozKt Kouae va Se|i- 

"On Frv'lrtvBt el'-vcu in thofornooa HcrMtijc^ty-wllIi 

^(..■. . ;■■ ■■ ■ . "■■ . ■• •- 

to I ... - . ■ . J. _ . ■ 

WbtHi vtDOC". ill tlic pre^vtiDc of 'i04*U peojilr u 
con»'^^r«4«i1 vith pTc4t wrerttoiir, hovirnr • 

i„^r . . - ■ ,. ,,'■■■■■, 


vrr ■ 

'"•■^'*' . - . - ... ...u 

Six of ihv tombstones fonuei-lj IaIiL m the 
p8T6inent of tliia cIajitwI we fixed la tho wnU of 
i>n6 ''f tlin T. ih^ o* Sumoreet IXous^ and tho 
in- r tbeu aro to bo found in 

77 Vkbna. 

The following envoy C=p<jftt.«cript), ftn«m'evinp 
to the modern (Udicaii&Jt, is appendt^d to 7'A« JtftHik 
of tJie iJHuhtfM:* aiid from the wfcrenc^s ^cm- 
tftin^d in it to " tho -wriliupH, proverbs, or figui*«," 
and especially to tlio JVifc of Mai/i, it is clear, 
I think, that not only The Book of the lynch-u, 
but Th^ Lfiffertfi of Oood )romcn nnd Tlie CtinUr- 
hury Tttfei wore also eeat or inscribed to Buckton. 
ChmicPT wrote these in iho Insttrm yenrs of his 
Uf». The Utt^r wjis probftbly the Peter du Kuke- 
ton who wfts f»5fhoMor for the county of York to 
Richard 11. in 1'107; whilst it U certiiin that 
ChnuctT w«s comptroller of customs in the port 
of Ijmdan. Chaucer and John of Onnnt (tho 
iirsl Diiko cf Lnncftfter und father of Ilenrr IV.) 
married sisters.t Uuelrton and Chaucer iippoar to 
haio been widowerri : nnd Chaucer's objfct wns 
to persuade Uuekton nnt to marry a second lime, 
on rh© grmind that }>o(h hnd suffered enough from 
ihoir scvei*nl mnrrirtpes with one wife each, from 
which "bond" dentil had relieved them. There 
is only one expression which iHof unknomi lucan- 
ioB'— **to be tnen in Pri*o"; but I oonsider that 
"iriiiti " nif'ans temptation, and is of kin to fraisann 
in the MoPtio-Oolhic (Mark i. 1.1, viii. li),/nV- 
teUc in Dani^*h. fredeUe in Swedish, fnaieUe in 
Norwegisn, freitbt« in Icelandic^ and rnsickittg in 

• Blanch, inoiherof tleuiy IV. ond fltst wlfa cf John 
or Gaunt, 
t John of Gaoot'a sevond marriage. 

x/Gsrayt db csavckb kwzroy. 

. no niiiu in aJt trnc« t ^' 

1 \w>II ' not «y liow that it w tho «halnc 

*tt' Sathnnnj.P on which he knnwetli' .MTr. 

Ilut Yd let 


i \xv,:: Lilt? wjii' I'.'iri 

Tb«Jt .;a" lafiill ( ; 

This liitleTTrittV'" p 

I Modc you. tako kct?p ot it 1 i< 

Vowiie it he, llmt cnn no weP' 

If thou be si'.' "" 

The Wife of I 

Of Ihii inallcM 

Uwl |{r«tint*' yoo yimr \yit^^ /reeir lor to ieik'*^J 

lu ircdoiuc, for fouJc*^ is it to Ir Itoiiile.^^ 

I wliui. « truth, ■ ■m-j.ll.'! " 

^ again. * inrh. ' w4!!. "* -miii, ^ 'r:iwT 
1" My., II .' 

'5 nthcr. 

'' wnp. I*' . , 

*^ wc«l'. ' " "better. ^» wctL 

"■ Iw. S7 (iBve, «* My. ^ 

-'" rather. ^' tnkw. '^ teii«it ■; 

** trip, 55 iviiliu{f. 3* ««lviK?. *" 

3» fciir. ^•> ailcisc. *' hautl. " ^ . .. 

" iPAd. « foul. *« l>Ottn(l. 

T. J. BccKK 

^Vulcrfield nouse^ Hi ckmons worth. 


Bcxa'sfi^''*"ti "f A'l.i't.i TrstamenOvn, mwf 
F(i.'(i»K,c . >U text with a n-.'w 1 jidtt" 

voraion, t ; i rcpiinl .--f Hi-' "V'ta^ntL : 

and he added to the whole a c< 
notes. The book made it* first 
the world, nfl he him6»«lf tells u», in ltV>7. It waA 
republL^hed, with a doilication to our t^uecu Eli*, 
zabeth^ in IGGl The following ia the dftto of Kb! 
dedicfttloD: — 

" Geneva-, Anno n nato Jesn Chri»(o. M.D.Ixiiii, De- 
cemhr. XIX, quo die ante Itcnnium Gnllica iu'liitit**, 

:il.. ,.:. ; ,..,,.: ,,,........ .. .:_... A.. .^^j, 

{ijiEiid ii..><litui.-iiUu; m LtilliiA CluUiittibv tvlifjiwiuj iuada* 
mcntn «Au^uine suo folicitcr Veo ron«K4-ravit<" 

It wiJI be remembered that Heza bimicielf wa« 
present at the battle of Droux, whetv tho rrinco 

**a V»tfAai.^7a.j 




of Cron^4f to whosf) permn be wns &t Uint time 
f^r V. I ani aot Acq^uiiintod 

V r Bcsa'i work ou the 

M il ia lii» lifi-iime; bo- 

tw- il latter ill the date of 

th-- ' r'\i^ion ..I 1110 work by fbo hand of 
13.:; V ;iii;-^lf. Thia revised edition, tbo fii'lli, 
lut). !i ■:, ■:;{ jirr? ■ \, WAS B^AiD dcdidiit-'d 

tr. !i \ , M Itvnd, With the dflio — 

*' iivix n, aano iiltimn» Dei 

pAtieD' i'<'m ibo preffttor^rnd- 

oreM I-. ... '^fider," Tce l.'^irr, thnt 

liesA wiis now in ib voar, 1 1 s 

hihl iiretr-iideiE ill '-ad; but lij 

}i: ioiis to testily to 

h: uidnm illaai urbi 

s* c«m." Thifl amended 

fi ' ri the notice of Dean 

A M before him: tbo 

th > lament appends 

f}. Iri; " litre Bewi, DeDicu, 

a; rt>A#tA >4p rfc wpo€ipit»t. with 

\*>ti K*J(jtJi a iUUt; utter." liean Alford, ia his 
OMk TMtanieut, observes on the same place of 
Uw Epl ' ' ^* • : "the break at Ary« 

XSftn : ;LmorariuB, Sec,'* This 

U true v: t uui^ruiiu^; lul Beza, ill hia last edi- 
tiofi aboT* itfferred to, makes the foltowini? cor- 
fectioQ inn note om v. 10: "xrye* Kupcof. Verba 
htoc nmt Propheta*, non aiitem I'atili, quod in 
prioribt'* .^^iii>..M.KM. rion satis ntiimadrertem": 
•ad A* •, bA read^, tit v. 17 in the 

nn...V (lilion, t6t( ti^Kt. 

t>eforo me tbo Cambridi^ 
V Testament, reprinted, ac- 
L-< 114 Uat reTJsion, la 1642. The follow- 

i: ,!o: — 

' mini nostri Xo?am Te&tamcntani, 

-, rMJM« fJnwo contfxiui re-pondent 

i<- ; altcrn, Tbcodoh lieze. 

ne% etc. Accemit etUm 

__ ! ccdiu Commentariua, etc. 

tabr. AnuL lyp. aiicjcui." 

Tin !*.'.. .l,-,li,)if!,in^ t.. Queen Elizabeth, and 
referred to, artj pre- 
t-ntary is printed at 


9. A. 

. oa Holt GRAtr.. — Since the 

Tennyson*a poem, many per- 

Ali-'-ti^thelJolyGrailP'' Mr. 


wLicti the Lord 
with hi« rtwn. 

-phf jwunwjiog brought 


But the medimral i-omaaoea nf Mtirfr f^A7-i^jn; 
Lc J^. Orttal, lAimpfot tfu I^tr, ftnd / '. 

treat it 09 the th'gA which held the l*ft I) 

j of the l.«8t Suppur. 8t. Jowjpb of Ariiiialhaa ia 
I jftid to haTB ^iribL'd the houM and carried tb^ 
veaad away, and placed in it the blood -wbiAi 
I riowi?H from our Lord's wounds wh^>n ho took tbtfi 
I body from tho croAS. For f«vrty-twn yktm, vflwn 
in prison, ho was sustained by the grail, and when' 
liberated conveyed it to Britain. The word is* 
probably derived from tha old French or Celtic 
f/r<fai^ PrOTenfiil ^-azal, old Latin ffrndaHs, a Idud' 
of dish. In tho Treasury at Genoa i^ a dish of.i 
green fflaiis Hon^^ eunpoaed to be of enjoi'«ld),T 
hexAgonal, of two palms width, called tbo ^;rrcH 
Ca/itHif said to be the Hasehal dish in (^nestioiti 
It was brotipbt f^>ttl Cfesarea, la llOIy '^d i(« 
wovknianship is verv fine. . , , 

Mr. rturinp-Goula, in liis Curious Myfhs of t1i)t;$\ 
Midfile A(j€A <:2ad Seriefl, p. 351^, traces the legend 
to Druidic times. He tninks ibftt ihi' P)tfn'tim\ 
ia lb« " Ked Book" in the librni-v nf Josus fol-' 
le^, Oxford, is the orr^ia (if ; ' / of Chit5- 

tien de Troyes, which ditfor- . from tbt<|^ 

Morte ifAtthur. The " Red book i.s a coUectiou 
of pro^e and verso romances and tales, begun iu 
1318 and finished in 1454, containiqip le^eads of 
great antiquity. The sacred vessel m Pheredur 
wad A heathen rolie., nnd Pberedar was not a 
Christian. Percecai and Pherctlur are believed 
both to mean tho same, t. e " Companion of tho 
Casin." Jurk Phwot, iim., P.S.A. 

Vn. .Vrnold ok Kuony.^A sludioua reperusal . 
of the Life of Dr. Artto/d, by thy preHeut D&an of • 
Westminster, convinces me that no greater man 
upon the whole than Arnold has appeared iu our 
century. This may strike many ol your readers 
as a truuim, but to others the cai^ may not bo «o 
apparent ; and it i^ with a view to the tatttr claM . 
of persons, or rather to tbt^ public at large, ibat<" 
I would take odvoatago of one of the means 
alTorded by " N. S^ Q.*' and eugsost that tho above 
work (whicb is oa sdmiruble In it^ literary con- 
structiou as it la iutere^^tiug in its subject) 
should be issued iu a cht>ap edition. I feel tuxe 
that the benefit of surb .i reprint would be very 
great, especially at the present time, when the 
guidance of a mo^iter mind ia more than ever 
needed to keep int^uiry from breaking into law- 
lefi-?nes.s, and to insist upon tho parnmount claims 
of the principles of reverence and bumilitr. 



Beooabs RECoiirro XjAnded Pjt'trRisTOBS ! — 
At a time when the public mind is much occupied 
by the difficulties that surround the " land ques- 
tion" of Ireland, it may be interesting to kn*iv 
how, in one part of France, the attempt has be^n 
mode for the aolution of ooe of the most 



[4*S.V, Jjjr.8,70. 

namzig of all proUemB in connectioB with it, viz. 
the remunerative employment of an industxious 
population reduced to a state of mendicancy. I 
quote from a work that may be re^^ded as pub- 
fished "by authority." 

Beferring to the Commune of St. Jacut-du- 
"Men^y Canton of Collin^e, in the Department of 
the C6tefl-du-Nord, it is stated : — 

"Thirty years ago Suint Jacut was covered with heaths 
{landet), eaxd its population in 1832 numbered 664 in- 
habitantSy of whom the greater portion had to eke oat 
an exUtence by bej/^ginc {dont la forte partie deman^ 
doit sfiH existence a rmimone). Confidence was re- 
posed in the intelligence and energy of the poor. Waste 
landd {dea terrains vagttes) were sold to irresponsible 
bci^ars (^mentHaits sans responsabilitti} on tliesu condi- 
tions : first that they should be enclosed within the first 
year ; and, secondly,* that they should bo put in course of 
cultivation, and paid for in five years. The poor set 
themselves to work ; tlioy labourctl with borrowed tools 
for three days in each week, and the other three days 
were engaged in seeking for food to enable them to toll. 
And here now are the results of such proceedings : The 
popnhition of 664 iuhabitants lia^, in the courac of thirty 
3'ears, increa^d to more than 1,039, the soil cleared for 
tillage is fully 600 hectari'S, w^hilst the number of those 
who may be r^jarded as really indigent is, at present, no 
more than twenty. Grand and magnificent solution of a 
most difficult problem — poor beggnrs have been changed 
into landed proprietors ! — Geographic tl^p'trtnnientaie den 
C6teit-du-Nordf nldii/ec sur la doatmntts officieh lea plus 
recents, par J. Gaultier Du Mottav, consciller-g^ne'ral. 
etc. p. 738. (Paris, 1862.) 

Seven years have passed away since this curious 
fitatemeut was published, and one cannot but feel 
a curiosity to know how these new landed proprie- 
tors are " progressing." As the canton adjoins that 
in which X am now residing, it is my intention, 
when the fine weather comes, to pay a visit to 
Suint-Jacut-du-Mend j but before doing eo I think 
it will be well to have some extra sow iu my 
pockets, as I appreliend an extra demand being 
made by some of the " gentry *' to be found in 
that locality. \V3t. 15. Mac Cabe.% 

MoucoDtour, Cutes-du-Xord. 

" Leaving kg Stone unturned." — There is a 
curious employment of this phra-so in its literal, 
not in its metaphorical, sense in Ludolf 'b Ethiopia^ 
quoted by Jardino, NtUuralisti Library j " AnimcJs," 
xiii. 74, note : — 

"Of apes there are infinite flocks up and down in the 
mountains, a thou!>and and more tog'^thcr. Theii leave 
no stone unturned. If they meet one that two or three 
cannot lift, they call lor more aid, and all for the sake of 
the worms that lie under — a sort of diet which they 
rclibh exceedingly." 

The use of the phrase seems curious to me, and 
it may perhaps interest your readers. 

T. A. TI. 

Club-foot: Kikk-wipe. — Amongst the pea- 
santry of Annandale the term kirk-y^ipe is still 
fre(juently applied to that speciea of lamenesa 
which we dutinguish by the name of Mt-fvjt ; 

and the reason for their use of audi ft singular 
term ia thus explained: If a woman, while 
pregnant, happen to enter a churchyard and inad- 
vertently wipe her feet upon a grave, the ehild 
which she bears will be club-footed, or kirk- 
toiped; hence the phrase, " he or she has a 
kirk-mpe." This strange opinion haa no doubt 
originated from the devout reverence which it i» 
natural to par to the remains of the departed^ and 
the disregard of which was anciently believed 
to incur immediate puoishment by sapematnral 
agency. (Vide Dumfries Monthly Magasin€t Sep- 
tember 1826, p. 253.) R. B. P. 

Tap-boosi Ethics. — On looking into the Tarioae 
rooms of the Greyhound Inn at Belton, near 
Grantham, the other day, I found, painted in 
white letters on a black ground, the followmg 
lines : — 

" Since man to man is so unjust, 
Xo man can UM what man to trust ; 
I have trusted many to my sorrow, 
So pay to-day and trust to-morrow." 

J. Bbale. 


This is the creed, let nn man chuckle, 
Of the great thinker Henry Buckle : — 

I believe in fire and water, 

And in Fate, dame Nature's daughter. 

Consciousness I set aside, — 

The dissecting knife my guide. 

I believe in steam and rice, 

Not in virtue nor in vice ; 

Iu what strikes the outward sense, 

Not iu mind nor providence; 

In a stated course of crimes. 

In Macaulav and the ** Times." 

As for " truth" the ancients lobt her; 

Plato was a great impostor. 

Morals are a vain illusion, 

Leading only to confusion. 

Not in Latin nor in Greek 

Let us for iustruction seek ; 

Fools like Bossuet that might suit, 

Who had better have been mute; 

Let lis study snakes and flies, 

And on fossils fix our eyes. 

Would wc lenru what men should do, 

Let us watcli the kangaroo ! 

W^ould we know the mental march : 

It depends ou dates and starch ! 

I believe in ^1 the gases 
As a means to raise the masses. 
Carbon animates ambition, 
Oxvgen controls volition ; 
Wh&tever*s good or great in men 
May be trac^ to hydrogen ; 

4«8.V. Ja».8,70.] 



Ami tbo body, not tbu «ou1, 
fTOTems Uie unfnthooi'd whole, 

U the autborakip known of tlilfl clover MtiroP 
J. Y. 

Aacmc^ s2tD toe Biiu.h. — What aro the 
BoMn^-fiji in the Psalms iinJ Prophets in which 
CoJuiubuA La eoid to bare Intind proof of the exUt- 
caoe ti( a new world ? hudy Herbert refere to 
the snbject in her recent book on Spain. 

C, J, lioBUfsos, 

Mb, Juffv A^dEix. — TliU ffentlcniaQ was in 

In- v"u 17^7 n tcftcber of stt-uo^mpby, at No. 7, 

r. T)ublin. He publisuud a Steno- 

■<itft<ir\ wbicli went into a fourth 

o hfid wnrliB in manuacnpt, 

iliatnrjp pf nil Kelitriona,*' four 

; iiud " Angt^U's Dissertation on 

vaI. octavo, nil in short^boiid. In 

-0 votuRiGs were in the hanrl» 

v;*8, Dftoio Strt'tit, Dublin, his 

l-iiuM any of your rcodora tell if 

Mr. Ansell h&3 any kinsfolk alive, and if alive 

ihei: ; alw if tiierw ure any copies of the 

St*^- ' firammor in oxi?tencG, and whore ; 

«n^i 'i two worka iu nifruuscript are to 


oX «. 


here ? 

A. B. 

PS.— M. Angell, Lincoln's Inn, wai a book- 
m\Ut in 1787, and aold Mr, Auyoll's woika in 

^Br " ^ T .5 fana the Italian 

'•* ' mean in this, its 

rrr'.i> II I 'UTi. itMij-* ^-i\tii III ifonis? Were there 

oddj givt'n Iu the keeper of the court m his 

^•^"iniiite ? R. C. A. PRIOB. 

I : ". JjUf » Baktow. — He was curat* of Pres- 

"tt in Ijinftaabirw, in 1780, and hia »an Robiuaon 

HbuiUewnnh tiiirion was also a clerjrrinan. I 

.t,.ii ^... n: v^i hy rsreiving any informutiou 

'i'.'t IDC father or eon. Wr-re they 

the Bartons of Burton, who inltr- 

lh« Shutlieworthfi in the oorcn- 

r" U. FlSHWICK. 

■'■ n BoT." — Much ifl snid jnst 

of tUe^Bluo Boy." A few 

' "^ the 9(i](i of n relative, 

n painiin? of a '* liliie 

- ''-[iiarter length. 

■^ hiro; a li-jht 

il.l. 1 rntX 


•lio^tM in 

1. it was 

ii»TrJi.ij" ill >i hor* lir?! hllfl- 

I Jiowd^iu'* litihcr, bora in 

174'}, married IDlizaljoth Cleaenta of Oxford. Can 
any ono furnish information which may lead to 
the ideutilicalioa of the portrait, or of the paiul«rP 

Ed. MkianitL. 

ArpABmoK OK Old Boott at STKoirnoLi, 
Mat 1^, 1097. — One of the various correspnnd- 
ent* who use the eigualure Anox. tella ns (2"* S. 
iii. 316) that old B-joty was a dishoneet b-ikcj in 
London who suppUed a Smyrna trader with sucli 
h&A bifteuit lu to cause aickuesa and death amou^ 
the crew: that somo of the crow »aw the wicked 
baker on the ver(re of the burning cratwr of Strom- 
boli strugr^Hnp hnrd with the devil; anj lo-iiip aU 
fear, iu the interest and excitement of th.^ cont^.'st, 
cheered on the cnmbntaum, clapping Iboir bands 
and vociferating; " Pull devil, pull baker!" — and 
thot her© we have the true orii^in of this curious 

Now this apparition led to a remarkable trial 
in the Court of King's Bench, and I ahould like 
to know if the above details are to bu found in 
the recurdfl, or at lenst to know where Avox. got 
them. They are not mentioned in two aocotmts 
of the nflair which I have before me. Extracts 
from the reoorda are piven by Oenernl Cockburn 
in his Voyage up the Mrdiier-raaeaH in 1810 
(ii. 3.*15), and are quoted in Neale's f met^n World 
(p. 174). A eamilar account is givt^n in the 
Appendix to Howitt's Enncmoser (ii. 373): '*the 
former part of tliis nnrrativc is transcribed from 
Captain Spinks's jnurual or lug-hook, and tha 
Utter from the King's Bench recorda." In 
Cockbum's e.\tracts Booty is styled " a receiver." 
Axoy.'a details give a point and piqtutncy to thn 
storv which it bus not in Cockburn or Ilowitt. 
In Sir. Howitt's narrative it is said: "Captains 
Bristo, Brian, and Barnaby went on shore slioot- 
ingcoliiiea on StroniboVu' The first two names, 
1 think, should be Bristow and Brown, as Ct>ck- 
burn gives them; and ^'rolnios," I siupect, is a 
misprint for "conies,*' $s in NeaU's (luotation the 
word is*' rabbits." Q. Q. 

BttiDORHoaTTi (Salop) akd Shepftkld (Yokk- 
sniBh) Castlim. — Can rniy of your n*ader» in 
connection with tbo British Museum or otherwise 
inform nie whether ncy drawing or print if* known 
to exist <»bowiog the atate of eitht-r of the above 
castles previous to the time of Cromwell ; atid if 
eo, bv what means can an Inspection uf the same 
bf (f'ranted ? • II. 

Ttie Quadrant, Suffolk Road. Sheffiekl. 

PoMTioy or xnrCiiEED, ktc, rw CHniCHfcjL — 
In the church of Wc^t Hoathly in 8ii«cx, tJia 
Cfpei, Commautlmenta, &e., mtiy Btill be *eim 
under wliitewash and panoUing oa the weat w«tt 
of ibe nava. Yihj vraro thay ao placed? H 


l>f ihcR Cri 


romii'd llmre ar« no mirravlcftii 
r to tbo liiae of OrumweU in the 



[4'**S. V, Jan. 8, 70. 

it known to hare been the c&se in any other 
churches? A. F. KiBKrATKiCK. 

Trinity Collide, Cambridge. 

Crksts. — I have kioked in rain through the 
Meyrick Collection, now at South Kensington, for 
an instance of a crest attached to a helmet. In 
flomo of the helmets I observe small sorew-holes 
in the crown, apparently intended for the attach- 
ment of a crest or device of some kind. Can any 
uno refer me to any work on heraldry or armour, 
English or German, where 1 can see helmets 
figured with the crests attached P Am I correct 
in soppoifing that in some cases the crown of the 
helmet was fashioned into the shape of some 
heraldic monster; in other words, tnat the top 
of the helmet, which covers the cruwn of the 
wearerV head, was raised into a conical form ter- 
minating iu a device or crest ? I think I hare 
t^icu something of the kind figured iu the illustra- 
tions to some German romance, but the idea may 
have originated in the brain of the artist. Many 
of the helmets at South Kensington have sockets 
behind for the plume ; but none of the tiltiug 
helmets appear to have been intended to carry 
crests. Were such ever used in the tournaments ;* 

r. M. s. 

FATTQrEi ANi> Pajto. — What ig the meaning of 
these two Chinese words P We are accustomed 
to see the first translated " Foreign devils" ; and 
just now we flpe tliftt the latter, occurring in the 
credentials of thf* iturlingame embassy, is inter- 
preted "I-K)sser kingdoms." Though' I do not 
Know ChineRC, J strongly suspect there mnr be 
something wroug here. 1 think Funqttei and i*ang 
arc the same, and that both mean simply ''Kcmote 

Harvey's ''TorRiSTs' Gcide niBorea Cobs- 
WAU./* J861.— Who is the anther? andVhere 
published ? E. H. W. D. 

IlrcKSALL iTfDER HrTHWAiTX. — Will any of 
voor Nottinghamshire correspondents oblige me 
l)T explainiug what is the meaning of the lUGx to 
tni< hamlet, situated in the parish of Sutton la 
Ashfield r Is Huth wute the name of a familr who 
had property there, or is it the name ofsoine 
other locality ? E. EL A 

Kit's Cott Hoxtsb, — On rieiting Kit*« Coif 
House near Maidstone, Kent, a few months ago^ 
I was informed, by a person wiko apparentlTknev 
something of the country round about, of the fol- 
lowing common belief by the rnstica of the dis- 
trict. It is paid by them that a pool of water 
contained in a hollow on tho top of the capstoos 
never dries up. not even in the hottest weather, 
when it might reasonably be supposed to soon 
evaporate. I csnnot spt'ak'yjra or con the truth of 
thiB as^rtion, as I did not climb to the top of the 
cromlech, being able to obtain all the data I thca 
required without doing so. The legend — for I 
take it to be nothing else — ^did not strike me st 
the time very forcibly ; but since my return home 
I see it has been noticed br a correspondent to tho 
GetitMaff. Dec. 1828, p. '>12. It is there stated, 
speaking of the side stones fomiiug the cromlecb, 
that — 

'* There arc several Ucej> cavities iu them as well ai i> 
the upper one, the prinripal of which i^^ found to contva 
watircven in the drio^t seasons; a Circumstance tfbfdi 
the commun i>eopIe there&lKiut^ attribute to magieal. 
ap-ncy, thou;;n ciLiiily aci'ountcd for on principles purd/ 

... , „, 1 ., ,, . , ,. , I would ask — (1.) What ore the "princiriai 

periple, or ** Western people. J-'uvtach, which i purely philosophical *' ? (2.) Arethere anvotljer 
mrmns" West end m the Celtic, was on old name ; k-onds current in the nei<rIibourhood having ^efe^ 
of Ireland, and is found also on the west coast of 
Asia Minor. It is very likely that the Mandarins — | 
wearing th« old Irish style of muuturna — when ; 
they niune^l x\\^^ fafVfuei*^ did not mean to call us I 

having refei 
ence in anv way to Kit's Coty UoJise ? 

"E. II. W. Drxxix. 


"Life and Ori>-ioirs of B£rxbam Vosi- 

PicnKT." — Can «iiy of your readers give nie any 
information re^rarding " TiteLife and Opmwut'f 
Ihiti'am Monfjkluiy E^q., written by himself. iQ 
two volumes. Loudon: printed for U. Q. ScviTiir^ 
inPallMalU' L. J. P. 

Htm.tologt. — There is a hymn in the Chne- 
tian Knowledge Society's, I^Iurlaud*8, Bickersteth'fli 
and some other collections, boginniiig — 

" Father^ again in Jehu's name wc meet," 
which I find generally iittributed to " WhitfieW." 
I If, however, X em not mistak^'n, it rather beloogs 
folk and one in frelund— but have never been i to the late oxi-ellent Lndv Lucy Wbitmons 
able to find any tract's of them in any works of : amongst whose (h'itjtnnl I'/i/nmSf published is 
roferenco which I have consulted. ' ! 18:i2, it appcnrs. The mistake might easily haw 

T. It. IIasold. { arisen in the following way. In Bicker^tetb's 
6, Mcwman*s Row, Lincoln's Inn Fields. I index^ either from want of space, or podsiblyto 

all ** devils.'* A (>hinefle scholar may be able to 
lighten our darkness in tho matter and set us right 
with our Cbleatials in this etymological respect. 

W. 1). 
New York, 

IIaeomj Family. — I should bo glad if any 
of your rcadi^rs oould give mo any information 
riiSpecting the family of Humid. 'Happening to 
bo the possessor of that old Saxon name, I foci 
somewhat iuitTPHtt^d, cspf.'cially as it is so seldom 
heard of as a surnmne!' 1 have been told that 
thflre are two famitics of this name — ono in 8uf- 


Zones' A^^d' QtE^fEfe.' 


te of tlxD fiutlioreft.'^j it U written 

sulxsequeut tnlitnra mny have 

rph, tboufrh eiToneoualy, tnlftrged 

C. W. BnfflUAM. 

tGE. KTr. — CiiTi any of vour rradera 

'7 iif tlio word f id;eri<lgo or 

ii»; uaine ofn fujin jn rainier, 

i he pirnd U upfd locally, but 

d it ia ftiiy dictioimry wjlli such iiienn- 

tfycorovr; aod L hiterprvt Vickcridge 

ner ridge, the farm being ou Uic ei.i^o 

M ■'-' ' bordering a T«lley in wliicli 

vrlv dr}*, but forty yenrs ago 

;.^. i^ ;lu.4 interpretaliou admia.MbIo ? 

io this npptirtunity to nnV the mpiinin^ 

r irnraes, Hilpho oiid Brox», which lire 

lartfb of Hao]<i)*iti9 in the North Ividtii;^' 

B. HaoUne^H formed part of the powes- 

le abbtfy of Whitby, which probably 

• uauie lji>m the Danes, in li«u of itn 

liuuu^ liut arc* 3ilitho nod Bn>XH 

K, P. 

Bntiws. — Can any of your readers ,,f the follovring work, which 
liption of the bridge, aa the 
1. _ ._ In imagine, but i» rather a 
roticin^ to the dilTeront saints wltosa 
Ti Ihi"' Vjridge : — 

.r uiiil VorVildun^flt't . . . , 

■ ■ , ■ : i . l.-n 


- ^ -•■ ■■■ •'•■■■^uiu 

■ aU->tuUc I'rajf. iJev Joncliim 
. iTlti." I'p.27»,i»;ia*,'plaicii. 

. . R. a p. 

fSOlQ f3ux." — Where U a poem to be 

aaucing — 

gloriouB monarcb of the day upriiioi^" 

ing the pansagf^a — 

ffol, toitsuii; on hb bed of pa.ln/' 

ir*nf niemloiv and the graasy hi!!.* 

A SmscariiEB. 


^^Bor thus nauiiuK the great bntlle 
l^mtria was crushed W IVusaia, 
Ij bighur authority tban llie hurried 
r RuttiuU, Thr TimeA correspoudout 't 
laa, I believti, speak of the battlu as 
iSjzgTotx. How is it officialitf styled by 
ns, and 'what \a the rule about giving 
ibottie '^ Does the right of doing this 
ta victors? I suppose so. It is curi- 
how luany years elapsed bafore all 
?ed in giving tlie aame namo to a ^cnt 
urmer days. The French for a long 
ted in calling Waterloo the batUo of 

Afnnt Si.-Jean ; (ho Pnissians called it T^clle 
Alliiince — wilnepa to tliisday Belle Alliance PliiU 
in Berlin; wo from the (Uit called it Waterloo, 
and now tliis ia accepted by all nations as the 
proper name. '' 

Il'iw is tbp <' in Sadowa accunicdP Is it lon^- 
or short ? I prosumo the word ia pronounced • 
Shdortl. The irin Bohemiou hasthv same sound 
j)9 in Oerinaii, and ie the oqiiiTtilent of our v. It 
is a pity somo phonetic libt^rty is not alJowwd as 
in copyiti^ itermnn, Polish, find Bobeniian narnes,^ 
by the adoplirin of oar r to exprei-s their rr. For' 
wont of Mich a plnn we make a sad laees of pro-' 
per names, especially the Slavonic ones, by writings' 
in (veh), and y&t soundinjf it like an Knglisli v' 

(double U), JjLVDKB. 

Satybk, 1505.— The Tt^-v. J. T?. PeRrson^ in his 
UHeful Index to the V ks in Kmmanuel 

College, Cambridge, j" _ -n-'d, mentions at 
p, 90 a nook called 'Vn/y/r Mvniftpi^J, l.V.tf5. A 
fuller description of tfjis bookj if Mr. Penv30i|'^ 
would kindly commnnicate it, would probably ' 
interest many readers of **N. & Q.'* He also'* 
notices n Hirtory of Tamt^rhnf^ 1507, whirh I 
su*poct is v(*vy rnro. I cnnnnt find any ncconnt 
of either work in Lowndes or llazUtt. L. 

Arms op Siai^outkr. — What are the arms 
of Slauj^hter of Cheyney Court, in the parish of 
BUbop'a Frome, liorefordshlre ^ I should be \;\sA. 
to learn how and when thia familv bocnme extinct^ 

C. J. UoBi.Nsos. , 

.Smith Arms. — T find the following- arms n«*( 
sipi't^d to thitJ name in Burke's Armory nnd^ 
I'Mmond^on's H^rniHrit — viz, *' Argvnt a saliiW 
aEure between ihrve crescents gules and a untt^i 
rind in baa** of the eooond." Crest, " A dextori 
hnnd hoUlinp a ^wn." ' 

X am particriiarly anxious to diacov^r evidt'nco 
of the pxittence oV such a coat, and whether it 
wa* Scotch, Knibflibh, or Irish. It is ■ " ly 

like one Scotch coat^ — that of Smith ol — 

and I cnnnot help thinkin;^ that it niav iin\< li- 
frinat^d ill a mistakfl of bliizon, the rficM-rooh in 
the baee of the latter coat bein^ tronsfuruied into 
a miil-ritid in the former. Can any oue kindly 
inffrrm me if the coat ever existed ; and if so, by 
what family or individual it was bqrue ? 


Vandks BKuruB. — John Vandeu Hempde, 
whoso daughter and heir married the Marquis i»f 
Annaudalo in iri'i*, made his will in ITilo, whii'h 
was proved in the same year. ILa father, Abmiiam 
Vanden Bempde, married one of the daughters 
and co-heiresses of Sir Peter Van Lore, Bart., a 
Dutohmao, who wa« nnturjUised 8 Jac. 1. The 
Vanden Bempdes are said to have conio over from 
Holland in the time of Henry VIII. : and a Vmx- 
den Berupde mairied ». maidL-o^Avo'oowt q!L V^^msssq- 
Elizabeth, and rec«we4 Irom. Vtt wjbi^ -^wftfetAA^ 




[^t^s. V. Jak.«,70. 

•which John Bempde makes heir-looma in his will. 
Have any of your readers met with any account 
of a Vanden Bempde under Ilenrv VIII. or 
Elizaheth? " E. P. 

Vowel Sou>'D3. — Where is the hest informa- 
tion relative to the peculiar way we have in Kng- 
laiid of sounding the vowels 9 It seems to have 
come in ahout the e-ixtccuth century or later. 
What can he the reason of our pronouucin^jc them 
differently from our fore-olders and from every 
other nation in Europe ? In " ohlige " (ohleiffc), 
we have or until recently had the old sound of i 
retained, as it is still hy our ccevHeezed friends in 
North Britain. J. T. F. 

The College, Harstpicrpoint. 

Whttwibaws, HAMOuypEs, BTC— In the com- 
potus of the executors of Thomns Button, Bishop 
of Exeter, in the year 1310, ''four whitwihans 
and a chain for a silver seal" are mentioned as 
Bold for sixteen pence. Can "N. & Q." tell me 
what these " whitwibaas*' were ? A lot of "loculi, 
pouchiy and hamoundes," six in number, were sold 
for sixteen shillings and twopence. I should he 
fflad to learn how the " loculi " and " pouches " 
diirered in shape, and what is the derivation of 
"hamoundes".*' I suspect its root to be Anglo- 
Saxon, and that it means something which pro- 
tects and keeps pafe. Can it have any connection 
with the surname Hammond ? ' H. 

WoRDSWOBTH. — Are the foUowiug lines by 
Wordsworth original, or are they only a copy hy 
him of some verses in his poems P They are said 
by a competent judge to he an autograph by the 
poet, signed by himself, and were " transcribed at 
the request of Mr. Mayer." They are inserted in 
a copy of the Paris edition of the Poetical Workiy 
8to, "Galjgnani, Paris, 18:^8. "I have a strong im- 
pression of having met with the lines elsewhere y 
out must own that I have not examined every 
page of the poet's works for the purpose of (ii»- 
covering them. If neiv to the world they deseiTO 
being now made known through " N. & Q.*' : — 

** BleffiingA be with tbcm nnU enduring prniw, 
Who gave as nobler lovc^ and nobler cares, 
The poets who on earth have mudo ua heini 
Of troth and pure delight by boaveiily lays; 
O might my name be numberc;! among thei.'s, 
Then gladly would I end my mortal days ! " 

•* Wm. WoitDSWoRTH.'* 

** Transcribed at the reqacot of Mr. Muver, 
Florence, June Itb, '37." 

J. Mackat. 

[By Wordsworth, Penonal Talk, st. 4.] 

Ebeitezer Joses. — Can any of your coixe- 
sponflcnts supply rae with particulars of the life 
Of the above-named Chartist? He published a 
Tolume in 184^, entitled Studie$ of Sennttion and 
£veiU-~% very striking book, but long since out 
o' print. F, Q^KDeTAKss-WAuoH. 

PAiGXToy Episcopal Falacb. — The Devon- 
shire papers inform us that the ruins of the ancient 
palace of the Bishops of Exeter at Paignton have 
I just been sold, together with the land formexif 
1 its deer pari;, to a Captain Ridgway, and that it 
I was formerly the residence of Mile* Coreidile, 
who, according to tradition, made his tranalttioii 
of the Bible into English in one of the nppn 
rooms of the tower' now standing. "Where sbaU 
I find an authentic account of Pugnton Palaeef 
and particularly, can you direct me to any woit 
or collections where I am likely to find dnvings 
of the edifice P Dabx. 

[Tbo history- of the bishop's palace at Paigntioa ii 
somewhat obscure. To the cathedral of Ezettf itS 
belong the great tithes of Paigntoii, which atkaitdi- 
monstrale a former connection ; and aa vaxiBty might hi 
an ol^cct, the local circumstaBces of this pUcCf tnhA 
near the church, on grounds gently decUning to Toifa^, 
might recommend it to itome one of the bishops vho hai 
a tasto for such beautiful scenery; or who» peifaspi^ 
being an inrulid, might have resorted to it ibr the Mka 
of bathing and inhaling the sea-breese. At the begimhv 
of this century, in the portion contignoos to the dtar^ 
yard, there was little but the pointed window to dirig^ 
nate its aucic-nt ■appropriation ; but rising from tbew«B% 
and having in view the whole of the beantifol bay. if- 
pcared a tower in tolerable preserration, wfaioh, tt tt 
was not likely to have been constructed for militaiy ptf^ 
poees of defence, wns most probably intended Ibr a gaaibih 
us on ever)' side it bad a command of scenes vkieb fff 
luxuriance, beauty, and picturesque raiie^, eooU art 
bo well exceeded. 

Sir John William dc la Pole (ob. 1636) in hii OoBtr- 
tions towanh a De$cnptwn oftheCtnaity ofZJhmmy 4to,i791i 
p. 279, iufonos us that " Pai^ton was anciently tb* ii- 
hcritance of the Bishops of Exeter, when aJse Cfaiy bsil 
a dwclUng-hr>uf>e. It was alienated from the bishofiiie^ 
John Voyscy, Bishop of Exon, unto William Herb«rt,Etrf 
of Pembroke, from whom it descended unto H«iry,Esri 
of Pembroke ; and from him unto William, Eari of Pem- 
broke, and afterwards to Philip Herbert, Karl of FeB* 
broke and Montgomery." In the additions to Biite'i 
Survey of l>tPon, ed. 1811, p. 878 [678], it i^howBf• 
stated, that "after Pai^ton was alienated fVom the le^ 
it came to Stafford and the Earl of Cork and Mr. PajBtx 
and from them to the Iter. John Tem(dar." In the Ja- 
tiqunrian and Topographical Cabinttj edited by J. Stflf 
and I. Grcig, ed. 1807-1811, vol. iv. are engrario^ * 
(I) " Itcmains of the Palace at Paignton," and (SJ* If*"* 
Palace Tower at Pa^ton and tbo Chorch."] 

FBOBET^irs. — I have a hook printed hy 
henius, entitled — 

"Aesopi Phrygis Fabellae, Graece A l-«**»*»ji' » 
aliis opn9euli% quorum index proxima rafitffr ptgtf *^ 
Below the title fs a well-engnred woodcut dem*^*^ 


4*S.V- !*».«, -TV-J 



1 " at the rid«9i, 

' Baiiiwe, in oOkliui Fro- 

The boftk ia m the originnl atampe*! vMlam bmd- 
ii^, with lirass coraere and c1ils|w. Iti^ inscribed 
innde on the coror *< Sigi&mutidis Tmiacr. mcnsc 
Ov'lol»ri vi. die, Anno 1532;" the cover is hIsd 
i-ide in black lettew •* 8i»Tur. Tmi." 
s ■ ■ -pe^ in writtfln "Sum ex bibliot)i^?oa 

Jobamiifl Christ^pbori Knaio, Anno 16(W," I 
alurald he glud of nny infonniition conc«Tning tbe 
book, ft smiill octavo, oc the original posMaaor^ 
Sigiiaitmdi^ Tnuiier. 

Hekry W. IlevPBBr. 

[John Kroben of Hasil {iriiilcd fire tvltttotia of -E#fly>'» 
F a i fci omnely, in the yesrs 1513, l-i?l, 1524, 1530, 
UM — in of wiiich mny be »ecn in tbe Britisli Mu»emn. 
lltt edition of ISIS iithQ tnoftt ran? aud beautiful, coptc» 
of vtdch are in tfce Kinp;'* and Grvnvillo coUec- 
tioni. TbH eilitjonsof lSi?4 and 15.10 nr« printed aHfce 
in nxr, &c. According lo Uruuet, tbe»e liivc pro- 
duced in Vvit not roens UmD nine francs eacb ; but rerj' 
■ndi, hawvTVT, depends upon tbe coitdltiun of the volume. 
Of S^gianund Traiuer, lo whom our corrcspoDdent'a copy 
M tfw tiaam belonged, ire can learn nothing.] 

WsinnrflTOiir'B DiuyKrso ForNTiTW, — Are 
■If «f TOOT renders acquruuted with tlie biie 
VMM Im fooBtAUi WAS er«-ctt:d by Whittington Y 
It wMMmewhere in the Titr. A genUeman \ua 
nSmnd to plAo« a fountflin on the Hwe moi it it 
cao b« id«nti£«d. / LtfK. 

pBIW, flpiotat Inr th* 1l<»r. K Lraons hi his .VodW Mrr- 
t0mi^mm JUmiHr ' '. 'njfl "that ther« was a 

■■!■ iwUdl east • ^ (9t Gite*. Cripple^ate) , 

noa fVniD IJi^hUui^. and tUnt WUitting(on. tlic 
cMtfc4 ft ' bMsc ' (in tbe shape of a l>oar's licnd, and 
•Mcb «tv% bT lh» nofue of Wliittiir^too's bo;**) or t«p of 
vafttf 19 be mado in tbechanli wall," May we cxpreu 
a fen^ that tbe bear's bead will funn a feature iu the 
p nni o— l foaat*to?] 

*M.rn-!tTn. Mm* *r». \19^. 

^OTC« Oak'. . ■:.;,..;., T, 

Mrt af Cjtlii^a, Manni t«rttiini[]|, of r^tanUiti-U Ivdl, 
Hi^ (rtai-t dvijiE withoot male iAtn, 
^ -ite Icouoie extinct*" &c. 
, tnkon from a newspaper 
un ilrd with the nocrtunt iiivon 
in which it ap- 
'f MoDtAgu, di«d 
his Xhpie ertna, 
-bill, having died 
1>. M. 

ia 1749. Ob Nov. S, J7««, George ilimrtonell, fourth 
Karl of Cardigan, wbv iutd manjad Nary, douglitcr and 
oobeiresi of Jobu tbe last Duko of Ifont^Bit, wm craat 
Maf()a»n of Honthenner and Doka of Moata^ and 
died in 17!>'.i, like his pmlcoeMor, wIlhCKit betr male, ai 
tbe dukedom became rxtioct fcr Cte aaeoad tima.^ 


KiHS OF THE Maiden. — Col^d vou inform me 
where I may loam tbo history of the instrumynts 
of torture collected at Nuremberg and Munich, 
and particularly of the '* Jiuigfrau at the former 
plaL'e ? R, W. Bmiffa. 

r Our correspondent will find in 77m Aretueoloffia,xxvu, 
2'2!»-S50. an article by Mr. Pearaali entitled "The KisAof 
tlie Virpn : ii Xarralive of Kcsearche^ made in Germany 
in the Veara 183.2 and 1831, for tbe purpo^'c of aaccf* 
taining tbe mode of inflicting tliat ancient pnniahmea^. 
and of pro\'infr the often denied aud generally dlsputadl 
ftict of its existence.'' Thii^ paper is replete with inform»-i 
tion on many points connected wtlh the practice of to^ 
luta in tbe \ii*od old tunes ; and, besides deecTtbin]> tha 
Nurembeq; Vir)pn~-<if ivhioh there are several engravings 
— prorea tbe exiateiioe <if aioiilar iostrntncnts both in 
Uovnany aud Sptiiu j 



(4* S. iii. 570; iv. 33, 41, >*0, 304, 237.) 

Mat-k m- SetiL — It was a well-known peculiarity 
of Gmnsborough that ho rarely ever marked or 
dated any of hid works. Sull there were escep* 
tiuns, aud it is probable tbe least^known *' Blue 
Boy *' mny yet prove to have been one of them. 
Moat unobtriwivcly plnced on the right corner of 
the caaxtm, where it was practically if not really 
hidden by tbe frame, there are the renmina of the 
impression of a aiuall Kal or mark, to all appear- 
nnce oa old aa the picture, and of tho same mate- 
rial and colour as the foreground. The gooerat 
outline of the remains ia that of the royal shield 
without a motto, as u«ed for marking royal pro- 
perty, but ulth " dots" round tbe sides atleiL*it, if 
they hod not once been all round tho 0eaL Per- 
haps experts luiuht deem this imprefsion to he a 
proof that it had been made in the artist's Atndio, 
either a* his own mark or for tbe Prince of 
Wales when !ie purchased the picture. 

The early histnnr of the original ** Blao Boy" 

tuny now. we think, he thtisuriefly stated. At 

one time, if not direct from Gainaborou^h'a studio, 

it belonged to Oeor^fe Prince of Wales, ufler- 

! wards to John Ne-^bitt, Ewi., M.P., and sub- 

I sequcntly to John Ilorinner. E«q.,R.A. But here 

I we como upon two ''Bine Boys" in the fi-ldof 

' picturedom, and it is found that tho original pic- 

turtj was not ia this Grosvenor collection. Wica 

* Co«c3aded from p. 10, 



[4*8.7. Jan. 8, 7a. 

Edwards, an associate of the B.A. and a teacher 
of porspcftive, selectod tho original '* J Hue Boy** 
for a special notice in his Anectfott^tt of Piiinfcrf^ a 
work evidently revised by foot-notos up to the 
date of its puolication in'lBOS— as one of these 
notes tells who Master Buttall was — he knew that 
it was then ill 'Mr. Hoppncrs possession. But he 
appears to have had no knowledge whatever of 
the Grosvenor " Blue l^oyJ** uiile^ it might have 
been as an unnoticeable copy. 

It appears from Mr. Gale, of 47, nin:h Ilolboni, 
formeriT referred to, it wai« n tradition of the 
trade tnat the Grosvenor " Blue Boy" was more 
than once restored or made up as it' passed from 
one dealer to another, nt real or alleged higher 
and hig:her prices, from the time when, without a 
franio, it waa bought for "a few shillings" at 
Bingham's auction-rooms by one trader, and 
the time when, skilfully made up if not also 
relinod as a conaei^uence, and rightly framed, it 
was sohi by another trader to Earl Grosvenor. 

In most ca^s of making up pictures in the 
absence of the original one, it is instructive to 
observe the differences which arise, and of which 
the oil-coloured nnd made-up photographs of the 
Westminster picture furnish a ca«o in point. All 
of these photos that we have seen were originally 
defective, and when made up without tbe picture 
aa a guide, they differ in the make-up and in the 
shades of colour with the original, and also with 
one another, when different artists jhave "minia- 
tured'* them. If then the AVeatminster "Blue 
Boy " was oriirinally a defective copy of the ori- 
rinal " Blue Boy," bb the low price it fetched at 
tue sale suffieientlyindicates— for no known Gains- 
borough would have been sold at any such price — 
and, with a made-up history, was made up for sale 
in tho absence of the original picture, it will 
account for any difleroncos in the colouring, face, 
iigurc, and landscape which may ho found to 
exist between the two " blue-clad»." 

Whether Gainsborough did or did not paint 
both of them— tho Westminster " Blue Boy " as 
thn first, hut rejected one ; and tho other, as the 
finished picture, which went at once into the 
highest society and is still a treasure of art, is a 
question on which much might bo said. Among 
tlioso who think it possible that hp might have 
painli-d both picturifs there are Gainsborough 
i)upont, Esq., the dt^rficcndant of the artist's 
nephew nnd pupil of the t»ame name, and the 
Boy. Mr. Trimmer. 

It is not, however, uutil many years aftpr the 
ptunter's death in Aug. 178?:*, that two "Blue 
Boys" came into notice, and then the original 
picture was not the one in the Grosvenor collec- 
tion. It is, however, pnsNible tliat a spoilt first 
trial may havo hvfn j^ivpn by Gaiuflborough to 
Master Buttill. and wliich ultimately became the 
Grosvenor " Blue Boy.*' It oppeara that Mr. But- 

tall removed from Greek Street to King Street, 
Soho, and that, either through death or otW 
cam^, his name disappeared fh)m the Diredoiy 
about 1797. Poasibly tlie son was left not **om- 
well-off," got into urears of rent, and had kb 
effects, spoilt picture and all, sold at Bingham*! 
auction-rooms in the manner related. 

There is, it should be diatioctly understood, no 
desire to call in question the artistic metits of ^e 
Westminster " Blue Boy," or the high enooDuanu 
which have been written in ita praise, bat ablyt» 
show that it is not the orlpinal ** Blae Boy " ttd 
that ther^ is another of stUl higher merits^ cen- 
sequently entitled to ^tiU higher pruae froa fbs 
public and art critics. 

JSxaniinafionA of tht leatt-kno^cn " Wtfe-etod*— 
Since my last commumcation thii jnctor^ ha 
been critically examined both h^ artiste m ^ 
highest standing and by experienced jpettm? 
dealers, with very satisfactoiy results. 

Tbe scepticism' naturally arising towards a Biv 
claimant for equality with, or pre-emioB&ce ore 
an old favourite, led to a far more severe eu- 
minatiou of the picture than uanaL Of oooxs 
there were some who, deep la the Westminster 
faith, were perhaps cautiously inclined to ds- 
mignate it " a replica attribitttd to Oalnsborough ;' 
but against ancn an opinion a high ftuthonQr 
urges, with nil the might due to ^at knowled^ 
and long experience, an unhesitating protest tow 
made and acted upon, in which advice other com- 
petent judges also concur. Indeed, it is the 
expressed opinion of several of those who have 
examined the picture, that tliere is not a G«Qi- 
borough in the National Gallery to equal x^ oa 
merits, and that if placed at a proper ha^t 
besidti ''the portrait of Br. Schombeig," de^- 
natcd as "one of the finest In the world," uifl 
" Boy in IMue " would easily carry off tho hononis 
of attraction from the " Man in Brown,'' as i 
fascinating and attractive work of art. 

lu such a case differences of opinion were to w 
looked for, but they took the lorm generally of 
again differing as to which part of tho picltw 
should be used whereon to hang an objection 
or raise a discusaion. For example, one judge 
thought the thoroughly English face not vigonnu 
enough, although the whole fi^re is an "at et*" 
one, where tho vigour of action, or a manly tone 
of face, would be inappropriate. A fine boyiali 
face and a well-developed figure were alooe 
required, and aro alone given. But here «o 
would ask, was the "subject'* a "model" forth* 
portrait chosen for a rcal resemblance to Gains- 
borough himself when young, and handsome as he 
always was ? If so, may it not then be possible 
that the calm thought which is so well expressed 
in that sweet English, Murillo-like face, and tbs 
fine proportions which are so ably painted and 
coloured in the bust, limbs, and finely-tuned 




liuh the rabust anklo 

,aL not M. 
or, AS. M: 

i\\>ji:i iXlievX). 


111 hU 
s\ e hflTo 

— •■ * *' — !:t thfi fig-iiro Tery 
']Uftl to what lie 

\'_;r* n cantrttstof 
;th tbat ia iho 

1 r T»icf isrti pro- 
i'> thy 

■yii baa 

. it b^fOS !\ m»>ri.' striliin;.' 

*iJ8 of Ibe liintlseuj^es of tte 

i I '^m berg," of the "lin^tic 

'' Wntcnng riace/* in tbe 

fbe 'WestiniiMrter 

nee as 

■ med 

'I wiiicu ibere 

ihereforo, be re- 

! tbere is a 

II Lia *'cap 

-, tnaii iM kIiowd to be 

cap) tbul lie has 

through such a severe 

.IIH' 'i II > 

1 1 1 Ti 1 . 1 r (^ 


^',-p.«^ tbft result of 

of lUo Uii^tjraphicat I)ic- 

■ I ;i lit WftS 

•■(j^uiil U uot superior 

iruii^'h , .'uid III rcply 
Ir. Lano'i opinion, ho 

I" nr tlidt till' oiiinio» I'f Ml MtiT. iin 

,. pv.T wrn, 

lin^i to Im> n 
tUe iwti^i iluiiM nb>'iit itfl 
t it ol' the liueil i|tjnUtv 

I I 11-;.^.,- r A,v.,>.,.,. —The "VS'oHtminatet 

;1 be Itut bv the 


tlu* |iiclu7a,ftboi>Jdaov,t>e m crucioliy e^- ^ 

I uuzi(kI in all its fentures n3thf)lon«it-known " blue* 

I clad" baa been, an<l the renult bo niado pnVi<'. 

the lettbt-known " blue-clad boy " wjU I 
the authorities of the Maseum for exliibiuia at 
the saiue timo. provided that it is Adinitt^ as "ft 
0-."^ ' ' '" r ' ,' : .hich thou Id bo 

hi.i 11 ; for.liliij tlio 

ro\ III iMiitiuiis 111 i < I *j . .. - - ricodf 

far more of a near or C' uic* 

tare than of an clarateil .>.t..u." .k. iw; lato 
Mr. Hull, who pnapessed tbe picturo for many 
years, used to say tb »' u •^v,\a quo of the pictures 
returned to Gain- ng with the rc-yid 

pnrtniits in 177J, l^._ .__ . , .y could Dot be h«ng^ 
ut t which thf naluter required, 

. /Ac;' ^fc<- ioy."— In F.ilclier'8 £i>, 
((/" OainiUtroiti/h it is stated that the (lalv) Bishop 
of Ely bad a tinished skotcU in oil of the "Blua 
Boy, and desirous of sec-iog it for compariooa 
with the least-known " Blue Boy," \t w«i traced 
to tbe Me.'isrs. Colnaghi, Pall Mall East, who 
bought it forO/. Ox. at Christie's, April 15, 18<>l, 
ba; who have so far declined to give any iniormBr 
tioD where it is or to whom they soUl it. 

ricftring that Colonel Cunni liad an oil 

sltetcb of tho "Blue Boy," in n to him 

wasnromptly answered by ftuin\:iaiu-Ti to call aad 
see It. 'I iio gallant veteran, ^vIlo 19 aUo a devoted 
connoisseur of art and one of your rt^tdera, very 
courleoutely showed the writer his choice, varied, 
rare, and crowded-out-to-tbL-d<^''- ■^I'-^'ionof art 
treasures, including iirst-cla- ^, nuiqua 

engTAvincs, rare sketches, and II. Lm*' Blue 

Boy," It was not tho on« wliich had been tho 
bishop'sjbutawell-coloui-edsVelcbjBbout tbe same 
size oa tho photos of the We^tiuinHter " Blue 
Boy," but differing in the Inudscajw frvm Umt 
picture, and in the colonrinirfrora the oil-culoured 
pboloa wld by Me^srf*. CaMeal of Pull Mull East. 

w-lf/c ufihe '■ Hhu' i?'iPj/."— According to Fulchcr 
and other autliorities, the " birth " of this boy was 
in 1770, or afln tho delifery^ in December 1778, 
of 8ir .roihua Iteynolds^s oft^referred-to coH- 
colnur dii^course. During tli! '1 tho con- 

viction bfl5, as it were, been 1'-^ that this 

is an error which haa crt-pt inio curuiiition with- 
out nny valid foundation to re.^t upon, n conrlu- 
fiion in which we are suppr rted by the Uev. Mr. 
Trimmer. It became e\"ident that there were 
several '* blue-clndi" oiul blue *'ligbted" land- 
fir-apua of an earlier date than 177*', XVr example 
W. R. CARIir, I\..,..I in •■ X. & Q./' July 
10, a "Bill" igb, of tt!)out 

1770, which V ^ lu a kdter lnT>9 

the portrait, wt»en a boy, of hi-i fatber-in-Uw, 
v:\v\ b.^cnrnp I.i.iit.-fVd. Macl^ohlnn of the lOtll 
served with the 73ifd in 
•>f nihi-altftr, and who 
U\i4 ai.i4ai.3W, >liddlo«x, when a y^fy^^ and died 



[4*S.T. Jah,8,7«, 

there also. The photograph of this "blue-clad/* 
kindly lent br Mk, Cabbs for iuspection, shows 
a boy in the dress of the period, apparently stand- 
ing on a warden wall and wistfully eyeing a fruit 
tree, as if longing to pluck and eat some of its 
&uit It brings to mind Gainsborough's early 
garden- breaker gettino: over the wall, which cre- 
ated a sensation at budbury, and indicated the 
talents which culmioated in the " Blue Boy "and 
other first-class works of art. 

In the picture of " the Baillie Family," by 
Gainsborough, there is a blue-clad bor and a 
partly blue-clad girl with a shoe and blue-tie, 
almost a facsimile of those of the least-known 
'' Blue Boy " in neatness and colouring, whilst 
the feet of the Westminster boy appear to be 
quite different and disproportioDately long. A^n, 
in the " Rustic Children," also by Gainsborough, 
the blue ''lights " of the landscape are similar to 
the blue " Hghts" in the landscape of the least- 
known "Blue Boy." 

Now, these ana other instances of blue-clads — 
a lady, as well as boys and girls — in the absence 
of any data to support the usually received opi- 
nion, hare led us to think it probable — (1) That 
the almost inimitable skill with which Gains- 
borough utilised the coldest of cold colours — 
blue — in portrait and landscape painting, had made 
an impression which the president wished to 
moderate hf cautioning less skilful artists, that in 
their hands cold colours were more likely to fail 
in effect than warm tints ; and (2) that the "Blue 
Boy " was painted before and not afhr the de- 
livery of the cold-colour discourse, but may pos- 
sibly have been the last straw which led the 
S'esident of the K. A. to publicly notice as he 
d a speciality of his great rivalV, which would 
certainly odd to the fame of the " blue-clad," 
but as certainly throw more fuel into the fire 
of the differences between those distinguished 

Conclusions. — Once more, "subject to correction 
by further information," it is submitted— (1) that 
the inferences formerly drawn in favour of the 
least-known " blue-clad " have been virtually 
confirmed hy subsequently received facts j (2) 
that the original " Blue Boy," ns well rs several 
other blue-clad^, were in till probability ptiinted 
before and not after tho delivery of Sir Joshua 
Reynolds's cold-colour dincouree; (3) that it 
is probable the original '* Blu« Boy" p!\ssed direct 
from Gainsborough's studio to tho gallery of 
George Prince of Wales, aftorwarda George IV. ; 
(4) that at any rate it belonged at one time to 
the Prince, and was by him sold to John Nesbitt, 
Esq., .VI.P. ; (o) that the very remarkable co- 
incidence bftweeu the early description o( the 
picture in Mr. Nesbitt's posscfision. and the recent 
aeacription of the least-known " blue-clad," is 
due to their actually referring to tho same picture; 

(6) that about 1806, if not u^ne i^eozB previotaly, 
two " Blue Bo3rs " appear, of which the oziginil 
one was in Mr. Uoppner^s poAseflmon, and the 
unknown one in the Grosvenor coUecti<Ht; and 

(7) that historically and artisticaUy it has been 
shown that there ore excellent grounds for now 
recognising the least-known " Bioe Boy " as the 
same picture which was successively the pKfpettj 
of H. R. H. the Prince of Waleo, John Neebitt, 
Esq., M.P., and John Hoppner, Esq., ILA. 



(4* S. iv. 510, 638.) 

[ In times of old, when good knights and tnw fid bitde 
with sword and lance as they now do wtth, pen aad 
ink, he who presided over the Joat or Tonmaaait mi 
wont to throw down bis baton or leading ataff irimi he 
found tlie combatants waxing angry, ana the sneooaUr 
had lasted long enough. Tho example is a good oae; 
and we are alraat to put an end to the contMC* wtdcb 
has now lasted long enongfa, on the sul^eot of Shaks- 
SPEARE Glossaries. The last Mow or words of Ml 
comhatanta are dealt simultaneouly. Oar baton hM 
fallen ; and the Just is over— at all ereats in these Usia— 

It is satiafactory to %ad that with the kesMit 
desire to pick holes in my explanations of Shake- 
sperian obscurities, Mr. Oo&net has not been able 
to convict me of a single error. I hare indeed 
made some slips, as uiight be natoreUy expected 
in a paper inrolving soch a multitude of minafe 

Eoints and references; but Mb. Cobkbt, with all 
is mole-eyed industry, has not been fortooata 
enough to discover one of these slips. He has n(A 
disproved or even weakened any one of the poaata 
I have endeavoured to establish. His attempts td 
do this constitute a curious collection of pemr- 
sions, ignorances, and falsificationa. I have already 
pointed out some of these. But every fresh com- 
munication from Ms. Cobnby on the sutject , 
contains a fresh crop of tortuoas misrepifr' 
seotatious, a fresh series of impotent w;nthiBgi 
around the object of his dislike. Hitherto, how- j 
ever, iustead of making any impression, he fc» 
simply rasped or broken his own teeth ; andtbe 
further he goes the worse he appears to fan. I 
will select from his later contributions to yopr 
columns a few additional illustrations which will 
probably suffice to settle hia character as aeon- 
trovers: tilist and his pretensions as a bhake^eiiiA 

First, with regard to the line in CoriofaHiu — 
''He lurch'd all swords o' Iho garland."— Mr- 
Dyco, after Malnne, bades his explanation of th« 
vorb lurch in this passage on its technical useu* 
card-playiug. I have said that it ought rathe' 
to bo interpreted in the general sense of seiioiVy 
robbery ; and I have given ori^nal illualratiaa' 
of both noun and verb used m tbia aignific*' 


^«LV. jA3r.«,70.} 



tbfit the iUu«tr»tions are tbe mon< 
'!'■■ noun in thia pon.«Hj U unknown 
I'Ts. Mn. CoRJTEY ctintri.)vert3 
im;il' jt-- iJie only evi'leuce in 
; 'H R common-pliice 
I Mid Latin si?hool dic- 

11' venttKsiitii contun". Hia quota- 

li "A lurch, ^unUx palma^fticUis 

ndiMt^" Mr, I'oRNKT makes a jrr*»at my^tpry of 
his authoritr, nmi fipoma to think tht; extract 
viU bo asaqiriffc to me, tbou;jh it is fully g-iven 
in tlM TC7J note I was critidi'iD^, and tboug^h 
•TCTf ooe vritb tbe least smattering of aa'baiu Eug- 
loll must be faunliiir with the eourctis whence it \& 
dtftivcJ. Lcttviug tliiw point. hoTTBTer, andlookinp' 
msuplv' to tb?« purp"*f IV.r whirh th^ extract \& 

' ■ -' :ii-e to Iw mnHp nn thiaftoli- 

Fir^'t, that Mr. Cornbt 

s fhiplf.r ihibna Bknd facilis 

robbery; and pccond.thal 

.-.. -. ■■ TMi''ilors of obsolete Knj- 

• ] Latin \ - 05 Enj^'lisb lexico- 

. IS. It is - 1. . . \\f.s3 for me in say, 

when I speak grencraily of oiirKngUt<li Icxicu- 

r'lir.r- I rcfir to .ri>bD*on and bie su-cewora, 

Todd, and Latlinui, and 

:). If a ptutiiiulur word is 

liteie, I aay, speaking: yt'iierally, 

M to our lexicographers. Even 

( y'jJ t^uolation to the point* I 

Te be entitl»*d to say this of tbe 

In reality, however, it is 

ant. Mn. toRifET gives no 

ul tbe word in the sense I have meu- 

I bftTo simply therefore to repeat that 

' " :' of seizure, robbervj 


n.i.uiiication refers to mv 

rd zatii/. In dealing witli 

. ; ..J. . ..- nt the outset two stato- 

ibat no SUitkcspnrion critic or commen- 
t explained what zaiiy really mean«, 
ont llie special relevancy of Shake- 
n!lii-inr.^ l^l!i'' (•lmra>?lcr; and that Mr. 
the distinctive mean- 
er Jcniea both state- 
aad woxe.i very indij^nant at what he 
crinsidrrmy pr-^'iimplion and injustice 
ihem. ! see directly what is 

vnrflt of 1 1 evidence and siniu- 

fndignation. 'I'bu lirst 8tatein»int is, that 
SMkwprrian crili'* or commentator has yet 
'**"'" wl: " means, or pointed out 

Kuapaure's allu^iona to 
T. ^1 . 'a attempted disproof 

vol t three snort extracts 

' A elpmenfarv sources 

lo archaic I^u^lish — 
of hard wordi* pnb- 
li century,, and Fiorio*B 

lia/iitH DUiionary. Only one of the extracts, tho 
firtft, \» at all to tlie point, and this ia far too orief 
and general to enable the reader to underdtand 
the diitiutlive cbamct»'riiJticd of the sr/m/j or to 
appreciate accurately th? many allu'uonii to the 
cliarocter that occur m the ElizaLethau dramatists. 
But had the explauations contained iu these 
oxLractfl been ever so full and accarate, they 
would not in the least have aHected my state- 
meut. 1 have never said that the meaaiu;; of the 
word zany was unknown two couturiea a^Oj for 
this would have been in the hif^hest degree 
absurd. It was of courae well known, and may 
be illustrated iji part from the glcusoncs of the 
time, and abundantly from tbo littiraturo of the 
sixteenth and ."eventeenth centtirie*. What I have 
said is, that no Shakesperiaa critic or coalmen- 
lator ha^ coUeeted the facts from these sources, 
and brought them to illustrate in detail Shake- 
apcare'a rcferonces to the character. I claim to 
have done that for the fir^t time, and no far aa 
Mr. Coknei ia concerned my claim remains 
untouched. Mk. Cokney ia indeed uH'euded with 
me for stating the claim, but tbe facts remain the 
same notwithstanding his offence, and I huTe 
f^imply to repeat, therefore, that ao far as I am 
aware '' no Shake.iperiaa critic or commentator 
hod yet explained what zany really means, or 
pointed out tbe special meaning of Sbakespeare^s 
bllasions to the character." And, however unplea- 
sant it may be to Mr. CoRiiEt, I have also 
to repeat -with einphar}!'', that *' Mr. Dyce has 
alto<{utber missed the distinctive meanlu^ of the 

Mb. Cornet's attempted rofutalion of this state- 
ment I shall (^uotc in full, as in this instance no 
one can so completely espnse Mil. Cokxev as 
Mr. CoRXEV himself. The distinctive feature of 
the zany's character is, as I have fully explained, 
not simply that he is a butfoon or a mimic, not 
simply that he is a buffocm's bulfoon, a clown's 
clown, or a fool's mimic, but that in that capacity 
he is a conipamtive failure. "It ia, as I have 
said, this characteristic not merely of mimicry, 
but of weak and abortive mimicry, that gives its 
distinctive moimiug to the word, and colours it 
with a special tin^e of contempt." The import- 
ance of Urtn;:ing clearly out this distinctive mean- 
injij has been folly appreciated by the critics, as the 
followinfi extract from a critical notice of the 
article on " Shakesperian Qloasaries '* in tbe PaU 
Mail Gazrftf will show: — 

" A iiny, eavs the reviewer, was not a mer« buffcMa, 
he was tlut ohAequious follower of a butfoun ; he was not 
n mcrt' miniic, ho wm the attcnaatcd rohnc of a mimic- 
He wun a j*orvftnt who drp<sp»! tike his mflatcr. ant! aped 
him on the vtajLTO. biii iniilatioa of his nnutor'a tricks 
Wiii^ usiiAtty oborltvp. and t^niliog to the ludicrous cft'oot 
of iiiilwfility auil fuluiu. Wo are obliifcti tu the re'riewrtr 
for thu!) lU-htiiiit; the funeuout of the nany, and coduvio^ 
us with a new wonl by revi^-ina an oW uuc, NNfc"««t« 


: oIL> AM) t^L'iliJiilc* 

V. JJLX*. 

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!'i i.\:.ttf. i:. ..-If i>t I'-i fij *ii? arc ftii.1 

lti« r^Ji'i' >4 / r.i. 

•, f.* •;»r»'':« r.' 

—^t^ '^.■n 

t^. in a 

fmyfn^tmf ',f lh«: If;''-*-!',*", "ii'l ••7ij»/'*;»« t>:'- FKirti :a '/ it 

f;ri'l J fi^k p.i: ti/jxiar blUs'itioi* t / IfOlii. it will b*? 
VMtn thftt J huv*; 'j'lotrd ill full ttil Xuc pa-iitivc 
irifoririHti'/n .Mr J.'yr;'^ f;iv«:B 'Uion tfauAubjcct of tiie 
»fny. U JH tnrfj Ij*; ^r>fM on t'^C'irectHn himofil 
if)f;rf:rlih]<i l#|nrid*',r of Mr. IhiWM'n ii>iOut thf? fool's 
wnv. Mr, hyr.*i f-tyH lli*: sfi/'// ww not tiie fi^jl'^i 
t/niilil'i; in oil]*-.' wiiili', timt lh«: zanj/ "WM not a 
nhort *itu:k wjih a rarM-d h<;a(i on tli>: top. But 
li« d'li'H not ii'l'J ft ftiii^l'; word m to what the 
•v4Mt/ rntiWy ij> Ijttvoiid whiit I liftTO quoted. lie 
do«!ti not f^xpliiin Ui'j ]>JiraJ»« " [ooW zanies/* \rhich. 
Iifi4 (rivn tfio tomiwu\nioi-n ko inurli tmuble. 
11(1 rniil<f;i» iio dirdiiu'linn wiintevor but^vocn tlio 
T'ffd hnd tin: s/wy, 'I li*; AhiI in '*h butroun, a 
iNOiry Hndrrw, a ininiir." So it ihb zmit/. lie 
do«!H not »X|iIiihj lli(! r'daljon btlwijtm the fool 
liTid tho .:tifnf, or Jiiiit in un^ wny ut tlw dutinc- 
liir« UtiUirii of tliut rdfttiiui, which «.'iv<;» moaning' 
nnd lorrn lo ShiiktHji<'itri''ii iil]iit4on.'* lo tho chnnic- 
ff'r. i'or nil pnic-tiriil piupoH'^, mi far nH tiny 
prociiM inforiMdlion ithoiit thu maiu-o nnd fiinc- 
lioiiM of thn Mtii/ IN VAUuxTntnif Mr. Dyco nii<;ht 

^*ltH( RM will luivn ti»ld MH tinil tlio zrf/j// i.s nut a 
ironiH-HticIi V«t, lM'(!un.H(.' J Juivc not fonnally 
(IiioI<mI thi« iMiMly imgalive nntl utterly irpclcvant 
\>UiV» t>r infonuiition, I am Rhar^fNl by Mii. (.'uR- 
NHV Willi m'tiiufc lit driiiuico 'Uho prhirtples of 
lili<riilurii, thr priiiripInH of I'fpiity, nnd thu cliiima 
ofihn Kkv. AU'imidur Itycv." 

i haw jinw doiio with Mk. ('oHN^n' and his 
I'ritldHiii. At IcAHi, uuluM ho |)r)ducM tiuinethuig 

■ 'Ji- 7" li:'. j.j::t'i'-.r bec:*r than ih? 
-.. .. :: '. r-i- .^z. w" ilci i^aia. Beior? kariiig 

-r: ;■-."■/-:•::. 1 : T r7e7. I SUJ ftdl Cit GKItiOC tO 

'.^ -.^^ : 7 ; _: .'-rii-r- T_ ^ ar*- iChters^ted in Sfaak^- 
^_-.V4:i '.'Tir.cifii- 3i?.. C'.a?XT eria^iiUy p»- 
••.-.-■■ • c Li* r^*>rs' ;*-iT»c«f o« ihe arricle 
..»*l:i:is-i i£* rs-:*ut*. i: uy be bop«d with too 
:i--.'.. . zi'lriiv-, .E. :ii-ir u^hrptisg Lis in»re]>Te- 
-■=^:.;. •: .» .; , r-ir a:::.:a.:'_i wba: it ooaiaisi. 
I TT-. /.:. :i.T:>f:>r. r-=ap*:::-.ilar Tȣer all critical 

& i-ji-^l:': Trl^i.^h 'riU ^ezriauy, I laink, in 
fi^..*! :< <: LCilii a s^^i^clea: aaswer to Mr. L'oSr 

'uaI :'^« ■.!*.« Mr. ir::::cr omuc* much nearer ti> 
:i'.^ Zt\L'. "^."A'-nfy . f ihr az.ty than Mr. Dyoe. 
li? L'^i i r,-.-ue i:i-"t-nil Mea of the rf^iftti>>ii U- 
tv-T^n th- tvA aad the zf:ntj, but, like iiis leUi>ir- 
'■r::j:-. ?. kL:-.vl.:.3i:e of thv ef-ecihl feature of 
t'«:;: r-r Jtti :n ■ a whith tiie allusions t > iho cUt- 
racrcr of th*:* ^-/ly niainlr turn. And, a» his pan' 
l-uitme ehow#. ho I'aiU to understand the alKii-ija 
t" the '•t\"l's scaieg" in Ttctittk-Xiffht, 

The "Wriiee of xhb Arucle ox 



nn.l>l.\'0: A FI:.\<;ME>;t ok SUAKSPEaEAN 

" >Tr, riyce throws no fre^b li^bt ou the word hUd!m§ 
I'.'ft hy lii-'prelcca^'Ts in a >tate uf the nirt-t nncrfilc*! 
vni'(iL>ne'i9 oml oMiicurity. In d^aHnirwilh it indmlln 
fall* iut'j niuoU iho same km <l of niutakc u In duUoff 
with f'/tfiiHrnm." — Eii. Jitr. N" 'i'Ji. 

I fiui about to write on a theme with which 
uiy acquaintance is next to no acquaintance, but 
quite equal to nir wifshes. The unattractive 
tnenie is>, On terms of reproach ami contempt. 

Wo may read %-ofurapa of plain profte witbont 
difccoverin;? one word or phrase of that descriplion: 
nnd, if we except the sntiriste, may hare but sc^nt 
HncceM in that line while occupied with Uie poeta 
We muj?t have recourse, for examples, to the 
tlramatiats of the period in question — to scenes in 
which entiniua and rivals meet — in which opposi* 
tion inBiiniea the pnscions — nnd the tongue be- 
comes uugovernable. Tt may hare been so, on tbs 
!>ta<fo, aa oarlj f\& the appearance of Oorboduc. 
It is certain that we have a sufficient crop of rtiA 
terms in the phtvB of the ffnith Shahapcre. ifinf- 
tNy occurs .seven times! 

Tho learned Bosworth remarks that " The An- 
glo-Saxon and English words are often identical 
in signification." lie gives " IltfMmi, To indiMf 
hend^-IfyldMff, A bending, Hiciining." Oa ttiv 
evidence it seems to me that the word kiUuUjtit' 
to its ctyntology, denotes one in a state of i>* 
feriority — and nothing more. 





i« flXLHl 1>V 

If tho AltJlrt- 

riftble, T AhoiiM 

nr«: the rovii^p, howevc?, is 

t*ic n-;n. itiit andtir nnrcip- 

■' a word is of 'more 

'v. nnd tJittt ni"?Buing^ 

' j<t wtilyre. A« 

i :, I belitfve Ihey 

' h, without; nnr reference 

ft nr>t'=' Ml AiW- 

. Mil >!r. i'vc Avith re<rrtrd to 

tho ward iti qiieAlion — RvriMl.T 

M .. ., .... ./^oiic/^c^I 

• nt would 

,._.-. ....i,. I -vvoa aoou 

of the cfiiique \ felt 

. ..,»_' could HUt-piu^ tlmt 

iiy the r*rietrer himself. 

.M-f. ■.rU:— 
i■'nll»— a thiflll or 
■ Iiinl— ilif tenn is 

_■ timirlMt— 

iho jippljctl to uiiriiaU 
Ita Qiibrokcn and 

s^iiiiul emeudatipn, 

ou wamiuted facta, 

it-i li'tn of some elyoiolo- 

adiuittcd that temu of 

...,*.' aro sCAKwlj within the 

. or tivon of clear ftnd unorcop- 

...^— : ...un. BuI.rON i'tiUVKY, 

«« BiArkv4 (O.^ 

ii*!e uuwber 

oi ^liakflpore gloa- 

' ' IIo ia. at 

-. IK'sides 

.1 ul' •■ <;irJit-r JLH>er- 

ou which s'jpjimte 

? to bfl diMnible, ha 

1 in tlic pln^flarv of 

lie tirat on 

quotniioa. I 
Th« -word) 

DnrrMrvt (0.1 — Hi? unnouncps, w tt diicovertf^ 
that flotimifjit (/i''/»', ftct 1. ^i-'O'-"*) 14 '.ijt'l m 
tho **&en*o ofinetructiout Its- ■ -w, 

in the JHctionary of Johnson, • ■ nids 

tUua : " /focumtnt. u. a. \_Uoi.tonctUuih, lM.}n.] 
Prtic«pt ; instruction ; direction." The nu^hor^ 
quoted are Ilacon juid AVuUs. Cna suel> a Wfv^ 
Ue raq^'jifd in n y/tPiWiXi-y ? i i 

DiKFi:no'CB.— JIo retuaiks tliut 
term iVj hfrtihinf. Trn^ : and ao »»i. 
tatore in iLe 1;^ 
aut (if hwalihi, 

and plays it w»s muiiiiar t" ai 
laon* tlian twelve times in the . 
iatio ronton to a«amne that 0^.1* 
technical sunse — quit© the rcvereo. 
and to ftctti' rue are not sjnonims, T -• 
feelio^fl on tlio coarsL> and untiiibi\ 

the reviewer; and ollVr Lini a •uiLi _ : jau 

new-year «ift: " Lu politfine t!'- /'mpfit nnm*!t*A' 
jmnger tlm cAuteH honttele$ tt tL:firiifrj.*' 

Chants. — He contrives to 1i' ' i "O pftj^s' 

of hifl ta^ik-wntk by mi erratir . u un tuis 

one word. I shalltake an oppualie tourai;. AV(/«5. 
id a Germoji word; aud I rtdy, fior what fol]ow«^< 
on n Ifatned Owman: ** Kra/it, m.^a cto^n, ov 
wreath, woTU by virfrmB on tht^ir marringo-dnj', " 
emblem of virgin pnrity.*' — ih H. NaKHl>K|t,'' 

' rm 

iL U'cure 

. There 

Mu it.^vd it 141 a 

To vear fuc 

■■- my 

Mr. Dyed- 
rds tlinn' 

nil.. <\'(V9 move 
fvil ff*ninjt ltd *Mff 

LL.U. etc. 

(ieniw* and fl«i?(V. — If- 
DO otherwise attemptii 1" 
by a quotation from pr t 
i-equiredP Tho phr - . 

irtto t/intt or jl/y (JuuhUhh otuj/l pnnrt'tViJ me from 
(futi, are in common ufi-e. 'I'ht* T-nHer occurs, i*- 
the Mims TiumbtT nf tho Jit'sitfr, in n quotation^ 
from Mr. W. S. Landor. If may alsn have been* 
iiaed by the reviewer. The throe lima quoted by^ 
Mr. l>yce contain as iiiunh *uluititH/ini loatter A*- 
thc three pages on the subject oontniaed in tlie^' 
Jieview. > ■. - <^d 

Wmd (0.>.— To -wWBt i» an equivocwV twrfll* 
Joboaoa Bsaijarnj* to it »vc mo.ininffs. AVe mu9t ' 
aooapt tho legaciea of our fNCwefethft*. The con^» 
text, and a moderate ahatw af «agaoity in point of '•> 
inference are the best lormdM. ' * 

Siffht (O.).— On m'l^ht and ww we have almnet ' 
two pft|:e8 of discuaaion. On the omiftsi.^n of nyV,' 
in a |MM)iiliar sense, tho loxicam ' ' pharnly ' 

twitted. I must olisorve, in -ce, that' 

.Tohuaou gave -■wwi, in Uio aensr m a/.^./v/, tyr^rtf, ' 
in I7d", and that NarvH fenve* fmir exauipl<»** of its 
use. Fofftight comes in *'■■- * ■— - hhffmijhi* 
is not named, hnt is eui "'•' — Noti* 

qiiitP snlUiied with tbia .^ I ... .^j, I havel 

wriltt'o acomjwftitiveeaaay^andhtnreit is: ii]jfA^is*j 

Cheofien (0,)— Aa tbe at< i« much studied. th<> J 
/(T»i OKDiioi be obsDikriN Buth, iu some form, 
must have existed ever sdmm th« yo/rf<K ofl«.' "^ 



[4*8. v. Jas-S,*?*. 

despite of that fact, the expression of Benedick, 
Til nef<r cheapen /ut, has been held to require a 
comment of some fifty lines. It calla to mind the 
title of the plar in which the expression is con- 
tained ! 

The Btdd reriewer also comphiin^ of somo sa- 
periiuouB entries, and mentions six instances. It 
IS not a wry serious ohjeotiou ; the spnce so thrown 
awHV ttcorcelv exceeds a quarter ot a page ! On 
such* points diversity of opinion is sure to ariso — 

** *T'm -Kith our jod^mcnts as our watches, nono 
Go jiist alike, yet each believes liu own." 


mrnejs S.\V. 31 Dec. 


(■t'" S. iv. 408, C04.) 

I am glad to be able to inform Akgio-Scotus 
tliat, although I fear there is no photograph of 
theui, a careful drawing of these arms, to the nc- 
curaiT of which I can testify, has been taken by 
Mr. l}. C. Pidgeon, and will be soon accepsiblc to 
the public. At a recent meeting of the Archroo- 
logical Association, Mr. IHdgeon read a very in- 
teresting paper on the Dunbar arnss, and ex- 
hibited two drawings which he had taken — one of 
tlie arms, and another of the picturesque fragment 
of the castle which contained the arms. The 
paper, with engravings of the drawings, will ap- 
pear in the next number of the Joumai of the 
Association. There are good drawings of the 
ruins of Dunbar Castle in Grose's Autiqmiteii of 
Scotland in Sir Walter Scott's Jiorder Ajitiquitie/t, 
and in his Pi'ovincinl Antiquities. The engraving, 
p. 147, vol. ii. of the last work, is the best I have 
seen of Dunbar Castle. It is from a drawing by 
Turner. I have not met with any engraving of 
the anns. Those works exhibit t^e state of the 
ruins before part of them was removed to make 
way for the entrance to the new harbour. In 
Scotland Delineated the drawing of Dunbar Castle 
shows the ruins as they appeared after the opening 
of the new harbour, and laefore the recent catas- 
trophe. About eighteen months ago it was sug- 
gested to the authorities to make a few repairs, 
which might have saved the port which feU re- 
centlj, and to get a photograph of the arms; but 
nothmgwas done. An "Old Mortality" Society 
for the preservation of relics seems much wanted. 

As the two lat^t-named works, in their accounts 
of the arms at Dunbar Castle, differ from each 
other as well as from the view I took in " N. & Q." 
of November 13, it may be well to enter a little 
further into the subject. Sir W. Scott, in the 
lyoinncial Antiquities, says that they were the 
arms of Alexander Duke of Albany (son of James 
II.), who was created Karl of March and had 
Dunbar Castle for a tune. But this is scaicely 

I poaiible. In erecting his armorial bearinp^ id- 

' bany would never leave out those of hu ovb 

I family — the royal family ; and the anus of SesU 

[ land were not among thoso on Dunbar CHtk 

{ Further, we know tliat Albany did place rirml^i 

' in the first quarter of his shield ; the other thiM 

' being Dunbar, Hon, and Annoadale, as intfas 

' three shieldd recently destroyed. His axatos 

j described in Mr. Laing's Catalogue of findU 

I Seahf and engraved in Mr. Seton*s work on 8bb^ 

tCgh Ileraldrf/f and are also on a stone in Tmitf 

Church, Edinburgh. From the statamentt k 

Pennant and Grose, as well as from iafUMi 

made at Dunbar, it may be c<Hiaderad cialMi 

that, within the last hundred yeaxa, than kim 

been no shields on Dunbar Castle, save the thM 

above-mentioned — Dunbar, Annandale, Man. 

In Scotland Delineated the arms are said to b 
those of George, eleventh Earl of Dunhar, meMh 
ing thereby the second George, grandson otApM 
Kandolph. He became earl on the death of Ui 
father, George, tenth earl, in 1420; and he VM 
the lost of this famous old line, being diupiiiimwi 
of title and estates in 14.34-5 by Jamea L EVbtci 
years before he became earl, in 14i0&, on tfei 
restoration of his father, George, tenth eari^ Is 
his Scottish rights, the lordship of Annandale ini 
not given back to him, but was tranafeired to tki 
Earl of Douglas, and this powerful bsron and hb 
succes.«ors as.-^nmed the title of Lord of Annandak^ 
aud quartered the saltire and chief in their simi^ 
as may be seen in Mr. Laing's valuable weak in- 
ferred to above. It may therefore he asHninwTj 
unless there be some positive proof to the coa- 
trary, that, after 14(H), the Dunbars woold not 
venture to quarter Annandale in their ansa it 
defiance at once of the Hcgent and the most powl^ 
ful of the Scotti;:«h nobles. Altogether it sseM 
most probable that the Dunbar arms wore enctsd 
by the " illustrious traitor," aahehas been termed 
— George the tenth earl, as he was the first of the 
family who could claim Dimbar, Annandale, nA 
Man in his own right. He came to the earUoa 
in 1369. From 1400 to 1409 he was in lehelBflB 
againf>t Scotland ; with the. Percies, thrsJihsy 
the Scot<*h at Jlomildon, and with his lektifi 
Henry IV., thrashing the Percies at Shrewsboj; 
and as, on his return to Scotland, Annandale mt 
withheld from him, 1360-1400 seems the piobslil* 
period of the erection of these arms. H.B. 

(4*" S. iii. 532 ; iv. 20, 130, 53a) 

A(^eing with Mr. Pinkertox as to the nnmff^ 
ous literary and historical forgeries to be found i^ 
the ordinary books on Freemasonry, I woold sajf^ 
gest to him that it does not necessanly follow tba^ 
the body of Freemasons is to be charged withth^ 
authorship of these lies, but rather to do set daw^ 

4* a. V. jah. ^ *«.] 



■edttpetb '' t'ignonuittQenroadilyfiwnl- 

loir tkese L uod aofoo wbo iuav be itip- 

Boaod to know bctlur are unable to diecnmiDftt£>. 
Thm Imi ottntury was partictUnrly ooe of literary 
loneerr* •« rsAlinim&/.>ir, Chutterton, and ireUud 
aUMt; wbil« the Hichud of CircDOt.ASl«r of Bev 
tram has h ' ! lUly oxpased, And U slUI 

quoted. Ti. us nere not likely to escapo, 

■ad affordfrii jl ■•i> Luoilitie*! for beiu^ honxed or 
duped. A maaoflcript was carefully Irejwured, 
keft fironi the public pyo, copied nnd recopied, and 
nmienittsJr cin-ulfltcd. 'ihe ouisldu critic haa 
ou/ Ifttol? been able to exercise liia judgment on 
ncMof iMiedDOUfDMita. U the dklo|p6 of Henry 
VL if a clnnsf nod^rn forgerr, the origin of some 
"''"^ ' mdttioffie dato« frvm Ui« era of lire Artbu- 

nan roeoaacca. 

I edbvro to Mu, PiyKEiiTaK's view, thnt tbe 
Toun^ I'petrnder did not accept in Scotland the 
ra»t<?nbip of nny Ahniu order of Masonic 
r, but I am not convinced by his ne^atira 
tta that tho Pretender and hi<t followers 
SstliaTc countennnced FroemoAonTTt the ex- 
limication Qolwithrtiiudin;^'. Tbe Jacobites 
to have introduced Fretmfiaonry into 
and tbia should not be discredited, bo- 
at an aflfi period a »y£tom of ebam ScoteU 
■idet* wa* f-' -■ ' 

It mjppefir ./tfU deserting of investiga- 

tion h* ^' ^ "■■ ' ' " •' qiiirers ivhat 

iiart 1 i\'i^ in l^ig*' 

land. «... .. ;.^ ' was Iliiuo* 

vesian in it« Irmdcra. \\'< tbites th«u 

ConeeriHil ii: tlie York lod'^ . ■■•jTc thoy the 

iBMi;r rmo^os, Ure<^ahAnfi, &c. P I'lio 

dflCOTi -' ^''litimentand organieation umy 

!- ■ on tbe fall of tbe aoti-.Ma- 

JO, M. i»nirgc'5 Sfoare, S.U'. 

'iJa A '.VIC 


Mr PT^TKKRTr-x haa rtiinoi tUo inlluenoa of 

of bis Wtai arliule by the 
[JAplayed iu lu'a lost, and 
■ ill. If that gen- 
Kreenia«onry in 
'vi I; t.i try it, na auch 
iiil upon himself. No ono 
1 111.- i»rder of Freouuisiiury cares 
i jot ahmit the ilotun of i^tuArt, but tbo in- 
fatnation ^e hiirc sceuu couulufire ibat the 
^■tfta did at vartoiu tliue-j 1>rtn'e<>n lt>48 luid 
U'U AiLr>i'i!l iji I,!, I'M' ii-t* .r tUnt order politi- 
cly aiv not ?u*- 
. iKtL'oa. Fllndel 
! with Kng- 
WHrp«'d to 
t intlueiice 
I . lull be did 

Iba: U tiuii-n* Tbi> i'iifri'd bull i^ uo arg>i- 

ment, aa fch*re are Roman Catholic prelates con- 
nected with the order, bnt they will nut be 
pilloried in your pages. The French ** Ordre-du- 
femple " ofeeH that Ramsay's instructor, Foni^lnn, 
was tme of their members. In conclusion, if Mu. 
PrsxERTON will oblige mo with proof tlmt the 
Lord Athol {sic) mentioned by tbe Duke 
Perth in a letter to Lord OgiWy was not in Sool 
land in September, 1745, I shall be glad to gire 
it due weight, and thmik hiw for tbe same. 

Jotts Yarkeb, 

(4*^ S. IT, 478.) 

As I am happily able to count myself amon^.j 
those collectors who possess these "witty sheetji — ' 
tbe delight of my boyhood — in " a perfect state," 
I will attempt to famiah yoar correspondent 
W. P. with that rituuii of their oontents for 
which he oalcs. 

Seri^ L y entitled "The Gallery of 140 
Comicalities." We are told that each fluhj^^ct coat 
the proprietors fivn guineaa, "forming a total of 
7^//' Some of the destguji ore taken — I hope 
after due trantdercncc to the worthy artist of the 
aforesaid sum of live giiiuofls— from tbe "Illaa-' 
trationa of Time " and tho ** Illtuttrations of Phro- 
nolojry " of George CruiUahank ; the grenier num- 
ber are evidently &om the pencil of hia hrothor 
Kobert, a caricuturist to wiio8« talents due juatioa^ 
has never been done, and of whose personal and 
artistic career we still wait parti cuUr.-i. On the 
fiticoud page is a »erios of hernia, '* Sketcfaoa from 
Ijivater," a verj' clever collection, in which, in 
absence of any other indications, I fancy that I 
recQgutse the ckie o( Kennj* Meadows — if, indeed., 
they aru not a little too early for that clever, if' 
loo manueristic, draughtsman. 

bKiiiES IL In this series the " Portfolio of 
Lavater " is fiffoia unopened. The " Poetical 
Illustrnlioos," which, wc are told, proved " ai 
popukraa tbe Sketches," and*' are not equalled in 
point of wit, spirit, and point by anything extant i 
m the present era of intellectual aiLvanccment,*' | 
are extended in K-ngtIi. .\gnin, looking at thesai 
henda, I am the raoro wnvincc'd that my atUibu- 
tiou of them to Kenny Muadows is correct Tho 
wood- engraving is probably the work of Jn''kson, 

Sebii£» 11 L Here we have the *' Third Oller- 
ing." bearing date Oct. ltW4. Tbe " Portfolio of' 
Lavater '* aSords its contingent, now presenting ua 
with " The Plusogs of the Traders of Lundo-i.* 
Those are, as before, excussively clever, and occupy 
ono-half the sheet, tbe other half being occupid 
by a miscellaneous aMemblnge of designs, iucluj-i 
ing several on C-ocknev sportin:?. which I ahoiild' 
assign to the clever and" ill-! "ir. 

SfcRiES IV. This number i m by " The 

BalluiAQ'a Copy of ^''^rsea to thu W'urUiy Fi 



[4* S. V. Jax. 8, 7a 

and Patronesses to the 'GaUenr of Comicalities.' " 
From this the following lines may be ex- 
tracted ; — 

" I am »un youll alioir that oor list is complete, 
Ami tbat mnDT mwfmtwrf abound iu our sheet ; 
And (altbougli £omc are straagej tbat you'll freely 

To ranlt with their rum predecessors tlxey're fit ; 
And that oar friend Corkterev (aod few are so clerer) 
Call drmc with as racy a spirit as erer : 
Yeis at Phiz-icat fun he a dab may be reckon'd, 
And Ije ehristen'd. with justico ' iiavatcr the Second.' 
Of bis talents perhaps you may judge of the stretcheiif 
From his Parish, as well as his Corporaie Sketches, 
And how well ho can trace, with discernment acute, 
From the General down to the nisttc Recruit. 
Such merit as his it is needless to push- 
Good wine, wc well know, never wanted a bush ; 
His high reputation we are sure he'll sustain, 
And we Itope he'll delight you again and again. 
But we most not forf^ct his high talented brothers — 
Namely, Seymour and Chatftald, and Aiken and 

Who have furuiahcd (and smartly the thing has been 

Many high-season'd dishes of frolic and fun.*' 

Amons the unnamed artists who contributed 
to this sheet must certainly be reckoned Kenny 
Meadows, as among the new phlzxes furuiahcd by 
this modem lAvater we recofmise the first 
draughts of several that appeared later among 
the " Heads of the People.'' 

Series V. Ileru ''Jim Crow" makes his first 
apjtearanco in the *' Gallen'," and ushers iu the 
inimitable ** Corporation Worthies" of Kenny 
Meadows. }Iere,too, many sketches signed "J. Ij.^' 
give promise of the luturo ezcellonce to be aaso- 
ciatod with tlie name of Leech, and are probably 
tho earlier productions of that great artist's gra- 
phic pencil. The date of this sheet is May, lo;^7, 
and one of the sJcetches, entitled " What we are 
to como to ; or, a I^ook into Futurity," is worth a 

ring notice. Here tho foreground is occupied 
, a crowded aMemblagc of stcam-cariiages, 
steam-cabs, and Bteam-velocdpcdes ; the water- 
ways are traversed by steam- vessels, and the air 
ifl crowded by passouger-balloons, which are 
drawn along by steamers on lajid or water below. 
Beneath are tin verses : — 

"Farewell to old travelling, and liail to llio time 

When cattle and rtni;,'8 will be qaite superseded ; 
And intellftct's march, with a profcrem sublime, 

Shall alill batten forward, by nothuig impeded. 
Of stoam fulks will then know the wonderful power. 

Applied in a mnnnor no'or thought of before ; 
Anil trftTclIin^ with ease fifty miles in an hour. 

May wonder their ancestors ever went slower." 

Omitting seven verses, we arrive at the lost — 

'*Thcn farewfU to coaches and honse-s alas I 

Doom'd to jiais with your drivers away like a 
Tour ftlory eclip^aed by ballooning ami gas, 
And 3'our splendid tarn-out snpersctled by steam." 

SEiui» VL I must only say of this that it con- 
tains some most graphic heads. ** Xlie Gentle- 
man that knows what Life is " is a fine apecimen 
of flash rascality, and the one '' Wot knows a 
'Leetle,* and ani*t to be had at any price," has 
an insolent leer on his broad vulgar lace that is 
worth anything. 

Sekiks VII. Here a bland accoucheur, in regu- 
lation black, advancing with a baby in long 
clothes^ symbolises the " triumphant deliveir i 
the Seventh Bantling." At the comer of xnaav 
of the sketches the well-known device of a keen 
in a bottle leaves no doubt as to their ori^n. 
Hero too, possibly by the same facHe penal, 
though in no stray comer is tho medicmal worm 
seen to wriggle, is a remarkable series of fourteen 
sketches, entitled '^ Ups and Howns of Life ; or. 
Vicissitudes of a Swell," in which the career of 
the hero is traced from the ''TlareweU Spread" 
in the coUoge-rooms, through many a scene ot 
folly, vice, and extravagance, to the " OlooDg 
Scene" in the wards of a hospital. The verses w 
whitih this series is illustrated are worthy of their 

Sjbbies Vni. First and foremost here, a neRT 
persouage, ushering in a lad of ^milar type, asb 
"Here's my Eighth— will you Stand for him f 
Not I, for he's tho worst of the family, and lus 
elder brothers have run away with all the talent, 
and wit, and fun. This is aVerv poor sheet, ancl 
occasions no regret that it is the lest. The fourth 
page is occupied by n series of " Twelfth Ni^t 
Characters," destitute of point and humour, and 
with this the set concludes. 

I may add that I have another "part 8,'* pub- 
lished bv ** William Cafiyn, 31, Oxford StreeL 
Mile EnS," containing a selection from several of 
tho parts as originally issued. This was pub- 
lished at ft penny, and must not be confotmdad 
with the earner series. 

I have also a few numbers of " Clcftvc's Gallery 
of Comicalities," a reproduction of the *'^?P*]^ 
ings that originally anpeared in Cleave's Pfiunr 
Gazette of Variety and Amusement" These de- 
signs are coarser in sentiment and inferior m 
execution, and bear, for the most part, the initiab 
" C. J. G." 

As t have spoken above of the small know- 
ledge we possess of Itobert, or more propeilj 
J. K. Cruikshank — the elder brother and fonntf 
coadjutor of the more celebrated and still living 
George— I mnv add that he died of bron(4itii» 
MarcS W, 1866, in the sixty-sixth ye*r of his 
age ; and that a kindly tribute to his chaiaetet 
and gpnius, from tlie ptn of his old friend Mr. 
George Daniel of Islington, will be found in that 
gentleman's little volume entitled Loi-ta i«» 
Labour mt 7j>d^ 12mo, I^ondon (Pickering), 18(J^ 
p. 173. WxLLiAii 1Bat£8. 


4«S. N". -?, 






to hiive com*? tu Oxfortl to copy ? 
'.mUlludeptolt? L. R, J. 

t Old Newspapem: Mist tbk 

S. V. i.) — J au> ^Ud to KHi your 

u with llio itbove^ and do not de- 

!itACi^ a poaclicr ou my maaor. 

^ ftlfLTiii V'lii, Mr. EditoXf wliuu i 

ad you froia m^ 

i r lunnjr yeftrs to 

up uf BuuUorl/ iatereaUQg extracts 

\ newapnpers. 

' hfrt Ia littU: more than a slip 

pon. Mr. Mist did no£ in 

^ i * w i ■• juiitiT for conscifttce' a*lio/' 

lar^e proportion of tho subjccta of tliO 

hr Vv* ' " :;aito, but he had 

binuolf 1' -111 Catholic; and, 

!■' - uiy of that period, his 

■ :. Tbifiii QOt ibe placu 

III'.- .:A».-(it tif that perseculioa, 

may be iiiftuTed from the two 

i.., .T. <.v junhilitcHl them from usiiog their 

Prote«>Uint catethi^iu, imd clMtied their ubnalpInQes 
/\< ij.ililii- v.-ir-lini After much sufluriag thoy 
:• lor, and ICinjr Georgo L, as 

i ■•.srd hia iiiHuence in their 

■trumentftl in procuring 
.1 .,""-'3 freedom. 

3Iiat wna a Protfstant. tiut so much in tho power 

r>f •>!«» JnrobltcB as to publish a paragrAph UiU of 

■'.aation.'i, and trcafiouahle rofloctioas on 

cmdnot in thi*i matter. Some piuv 

'■, trialf and punishment mny 

of ZfauLii VefoCj pp. 330-7, 

< iurLT refers to the oxploiU and exftcu- 

* " ' ■_' :\L'n, Thornaa Croaa 

I ut tho former is 

reprobate.** I do 

niru to the fiocond 

.r« .1,^.. ...... I'j he will find that 

*' prvsa " induced Crosa to pluad, 

vn, oud cxtcadM hia arin§ 

■Iv tvM III si.ipli':* (Irivf-a 




'■[III, H II i- li uc 'juviiii "i lot 

^ovt'Q niiuuCes.'* 
-If til" more "hardeood 

.'? two. W. 1«K. 

'*"' "' l'»7.) — The irerses 
'!Tidentlv atrivus- 


A vmv WoRpg to i "tomn or CoimECsii 
Tfxto" (i'** 8. ir. fj-'tO.)— If my fri<?ndly censo^' 
had ever haird of the late Professor SoholetieldV 
correspondeooo on hia perversely blundured edi* 
tifin of Loighton's P/tefetrtionc^, he Vould have, 
been Itwa dogmatic aa to what belongs to an editor 
and what to his printer of inattentiun; and I am- 
wicked enough to hope that he may personally «x-J 
perience the diiadvantnge of laboanns; on "Cor- 
rect Toxta" with only ft provineiBl prtK? tivailablei 
a praof-readpr Bcarcely elementarily educatod, 
even !n English, and a single pair of eyes to over- 
see all detaiK The simple matter- of-fhct in 
rejoTArd to the liatiu verses m Jo^pb I'tetober iS- 
that, spite of a second and third ivvise, the nheetj 
containing them wtis printed olf uncorrected. Thifi 
mi^ht have been burmi^ed in the IiKUt oX our 
LovKB 0*" CoBBJECT Tkxts' own reference to my 
biief erruta-liat. He tuma to it, and with inter- 
jection-sign and all the rest of it exclaims; — 
" Amongst the errata not a single mistake in the 
Latin is corrected!" — keeping; out of sight the 
fnct that the errata-list helotuja exclusively to the 
Ujii^ and not to my memoriHl-introductioD. From, 
the (ipeciftl pains taken with the proofe of It, 
Hiittered mysplf it would come out clear, havinj 
reiterate fuwuranees of correctirjn. But after all 
our IfOvm of CoRUEor Texts mftguifies his dis 
covorirs ludicrously. Ho hna cjme on "/oktJ 
errors," Ho uam«s one, /joWtm tor podera, which 
annoved m^ when I saw it as much ta it coulil 
any ooe. Hut what of the other three P They 
are these: lino 4th, obitnm for /thUitm ; sftme lino. 
etipiscum for fitu/iarum ; and lino 12, «tpave for 
munv, — the fimt a perpetually occurring confusion 
of u and jt, th© two latter simply n difterent orlho- 
graphvi agreeably to the dim old crabbed M^. OS 
famished to me by its custodier <]{ev. Silas Cro«^ 
M.A.). Betides these — and in nroof that a liOVBH 
OP ComtBCT Texts is not iufaUible — I wa% nn-j 
noyed to Hnd Imr fnr tttOf, and pn^nmaft (qt jmetfii 
„wi<*— both overlooked by onr Lover! I eholl 
gladlv receive, from friends intereated in my. 
M'urlhitfy any corrertion* noted bv them. Cut 
having collated kindred volumes i.*«ued by the 
iShakespeare, Camden, and other Societies nnd 
individuals, I challenge comparison; and for one 
error in my texta, 1 ahull adduce ten in booU 
bearing the foremost names. From my Sibbea 
and Hrooka— triVA th&ir thomaiuU of rlaffuai owl 
patriotic quutiitiuHA and rcftrcnces — to my last 
iP?ued, Sir John Jieaumont, I have parsed nndor 
my eve some 18,000 pages; and 1 leave them 
With &)nUdence to all impartial judges. More- 
over, by new arrangemcutB in regard to printers, 
I indulge the l*Ietisiu*e8 of TJope tlmt mv anxious 
attention and unnnmnt^rated toil won t be ex- 
posed to the to' ' animjidversions of a 
LovEn OP Coaiii . -with whom I range 
myaelt Aj.hsas»sr D. GROftAnt. 

St. GeozgeX filackhum. 



L#fcS.V. Jak.S^'TOl 

Familitss oir Stbellbt akd Vayasottb (4*" S. 
iy. 363, 550.)^ I can throw no light upon the in- 
termamAgefl of these fftmiUes, out I know that 
the family of StreUey, though now decayed, was, 
in bygone timcsy a wealthy and influential one in 
the county of lierby. AVhen curate of the parish 
of Heanor, some seren-and-twenty years ago, the 
descendants of this ancient house were living in a 
park-like place, I presume their ancient seat (the 
name of wnicU I forget) in the hamlet of Codnor, 
in yery reduced, if not indigent, circumstances. 
The house itself was occupied only by female 
members of the family, while the male repre- 
oentataye, Dr. Strelley, a moat singular and eccen- 
tric character, Uyecl in a doyecote adjoiniog, 
tnite alone, with the exception of seyerai sharp 
ogs, which he kept as guardians of his solitode, 
and was never backward in letting them loose 
upon any who ventured to intrude upon it. He 
was a veritable hermit, aflected the most gro- 
tesque of customs, and would hold intercourse 
with n(me but the few poor colliers and stocking- 
weayers whom ho attended medically, and from 
w^om he picked up a scanty pittance — the sole 
means of his eubsislenco. I never knew him, and 
am ashamed to say, was a&aid to beat up his 
quarters. The ill ^me of his companions was too 
much for my courage. 

Shipley is another hamlet in the same parish, 
and it is not impossible that the Strelleys might 
have migrated from one to the other. I have 
often, since leaving the neighbourhood, thought 
of this family, and should greatly like to know if 
any remnant of it be still left, or whether it has 
altogether passed away. I feel sure that if this 
notice should come under the eye of any one com- 
petent to give such information, I iuay safely 
calculate upon receiving it 

Edmund Tew, M.A, 
Patching Bectoiy, Arundel. 

BiBLiOGRAPHT OF Archkbt ('4** S. iv. 330.)— 
As an addition to Mr. Bates's list, permit me to 
mention — 

"A Short Treatise on Ai'cbcrj*, bempj a Compilation of 
sonnd, practical, and established Kulea for that interest- 
inff, healtbv, and amusinf? Art. I8S pp. 42. London, 
1832. Sold at Bragg's Archery Warehouse, 36, High 

" Archery : its Theorj- and Practice. By Horace A. 
Ford. 8«, pp. 128. Clieltenham, IH:)"." 

Several books not noticed by Mr. Bates are 
mentioned by Watt, but I have not thought it 
nece.<isary to reproduce thorn. 11. R, P. 

LiKTT (4*" S. iv. 531.)— I cannot say whether 
tliis word be peculiar to Essex or not, 'but I be- 
lieve my son is on the right scent as to its deriva- 
tion. He, and many other readers of *' N. & Q." 
will recollect the old maxim, Festtna lentb— one 
which, for the practical wisdom it inculcates, is 
well worthy of connderation by old and young. 

I am glad to find that he takes an interest in this 
most attractive periodical; from which, if he 
gather half the amoaement and instructioa which 
his father has gathered, he will be amply repiid 
for its perusal. Edmuvd Tkw, M.A. 

" Srnx Waters btjn dkbip" (4* S. iy. 138, 
542.) — This proverb, in the original, is connected 
with another already '* made anotecxf ** — " Canesi 
dmidum vehementiua latrare qnam mcndera " — 
and certainly ought to be rendered as W. C. X 
glives it The truth inculcated is, that retioenee 
ts against demonstrativeness is the best indici- 
tion of genuine courage and prudence in actioo. 
Quintus Curtius quotes them both as conent 
ftmong the Bactriana, and adds — " Qoes insemi at 
ijualiscumque inter barbaros potuitease prudentia, 
traderetur *' — I have recorded these proverbs thit 
it might be seen how much sagacity is to be found 
even amongst barbarians. EbaiUKD Tbw, M.A 

MosrifEiTTAt Bbabs (4* S. iy. 514.)— The 
arms described by your correspondent Mju DcF- 
Fn:LT> appear to me to possibly represent those of 
the Warner family of PackenhuU, co. Gloucester, 
which are — Or, a chev. between 3 boars' headi 
couped sable. 1 do not know what the crest is. 
The impaled coat might bo the Vaus fsmily at 
the Erpmgham, as I think the foUowi^ coat is 
ascribed to Sir Thomas Erpiogham, IlB. (a.s. 
1425): — Vert, an inescutcheon within an orle of 
martlets arg. ; and another coat, Argen^ within 
an orle of martlets, an inescutcheoa gu., is as- 
cribed to Sir William Vaus. D. C. £. 

South Dented, Bo^or. 

Natuee Painting ov Stoxbs, kkj. (4** 8. it. 
514.) — There is a very curious book entailed— 

" ConKid^ations philosophiques de la Gradation aatt* 
relic des Formes de rj^tre, ou les Enais de Is XatnTvqii 
appreud k faire rHomine." Par J. B. Bobinet, Sro, k 
Paria, 1768. 

Here we have many chapters descriptive of 
stones bearing resemblance to various parts of the 
human body. Such are Zithocarditeitf Pritipoiitet, 
Oolites, PhaUoids, &c. Chspter xxiv. p. 35, ii 
headed — " Jy^s Figures humaines empreintes ear 
des Acathes et autres Pierres," in which mentioa 
is made of portraits of negroes found upon sgatea, 
and of a precious stone on which nppeared*'iiii 
portrait noir dans la manidre de Rembrant, cik 
Ton voit tr^s-distinctemcnt Ic nez, la bouche,l'(ei], 
le front, le menton, les cheveux, et la draperie.'* 

I would also refer Mii.Hot>geix to an interest- 
ing repertory of curiosities — 

" Museum Wormianum, iwuHistoria Renim RarioratB, 
tarn Nataralinm qaam Arlificialiuni, tarn Uomoticsnim 
quam Kxoticarum, qun Hafaia; Danomro ia ^diba> 
Authoris servantur. Adomata ab Olao Wonn. Mod. 
Doct" &c., folio, Amstel. apqd EkevirioJ, 16a&. 

Here soctio L (De Fossilibus, &c.) and seetio ii> 
(De Lapidibus, &c.) may be consulted — especially 

S. V. Jax.8,70.] 



rt, U. CAp. xtii. •' P« LapidiT^aa minns pretiosis 
nftnim ti^iirftnira, Naturalia at ArtiHcmlin rc- 
rntihiia." ' 

BftrLlioUnag flUo hus something on ibe subject, 

id Dr. I'lot, iu hia Hijtwy of Oxfordshhr, Duikca 

jutioQ of 6-tone» eeen by liim rf preeenting rari- 

parls of Ihtf body. " William Bates. 

^•'iiT'a V'lXiwsA (4'** S. iv. 533.)— For the in- 
an of Mr. Dk MiacnLN, 1 ^end you the 
- -'u^ facia rulutivu lo Mr. Koburt Maraliall, 
.* 1 i-^a'* executor, e:itracted frvm Sinylii'e Lav; 
fk tTs of IrtUtad : — 

1787. 11 Gcorce U.. 3nl Serjeant, pp. 197. 245. 
1741. 16 dllto 2u<l .ScrjvBnt, pp. 197. 24G. 
I7&1. 37 ditto Jo^ii'eof Cotnmoa ripaB,'pp. \?>% 
*$0. 1 (iflorge III., JuMice of Common rieu. p. 21?. 

'6). ditto Ltnve «(■ nhsenre for nix nionllij', 

vritbout furfciture notwith- 
standing statute of almntNS, 
p. 132. 
tTOfi. 7 ditto KeMKned, pp. 132, 252. 

ErwAKD Fosa. 

reBTBOon 4kd Fobrigx Ohders (4*'' S. 
t.) — An En<;iiibtiiRii upon whom a foreign 
Itfr of kuighthiiod hnn buen conferred, and 
kO baa received the royal permiMaon to accept 
' weaf the same, ia not entitled to the appella- 
•• Sir/' a clauso beiuj^' inserted in all royal 
T:i'.r-i nutboriainL' such acceptance, exjireaoly 
Hit ''flucn Uccnae shall not nuthori«e 
plion of any stjle, nppellutioD, pre- 
<•, or privilcjre appertaining to a Iqugbt 
T of the*? roalra-'." This regulntion wm 
' d in 1.SI3; previoiia to that date a 
i"Ct invested with a foreign order and 
iit? rovfil Ronction to wear it, usually 
t iifteJ the rnnk and npjtellatioa of a 
li&ij^lil luchelor. The whole quegtion is discussed 
ID tbe prefoco to Town.«nd'5 Calendar of Knights, 
to which I beg to refer your corrospondeat. 

H. S. G. 

Dit, IIetbt SACiravBRFX (4"* S. ir. 478, 651.) 

Tn BwraleyV Oitahgue of Fufjrm'rd British Ptrr- 

4to, Load. 179;j),"p. 227, are enumerated 

u dlil'ert'uL en-puvod portraits of Dr. Sache- 

vtivi. E. V. 

Aj>MifUL TiiTTKOT C*"* S. lii. 667.) — Your 

>iident Mh. Ridsell Carre, in hia com- 

lioitioa on '* Border BiiUad 8crdp0,*' inquirea 

"'Thurot'a Defeat." Various songs hare 

bean writtiii c^mcemiiig the career of this cele- 

bmUd I i Mu. Uarrx will Gnd one. with 

waare • . pu-ticulars connected with it, 

' -ditor, the late T. Crofton 

imin, in the l^opnlat' Svnr/s 

■' In ration* of Irekmti, pub- 

• ietT, 1846, under the name 

V ui t'ftrrickiergiu.*' It appears 

Ibnt Mr. Wright, the nblfl secretary of the Percy 
Society, had a chiip-booltf printed at Glaoffon^ 
iu ISOl by J. and Jl. Itobertsou, Saltmancet, 
which, among other?, contained '' The Siego of 
CarrickferguB ; or ThuMt'e Defeat."' Aa thia 
defent took place off the coast of Ibitf i»larid, it 
naturally created con^sidt-rable interest, and varioua 
Bongs were composed in the Manx language, whicb 
were great favourites at the time, and mav occa- 
fii-jnallv at tlio present day be benrd cbauted 
forth in some of the country districts. I am 
endeavouring to rescue these from the oblivion 
which they appear to be fast fading into, along 
witli other soiigs and ballads relating to the Isle 
uf Man, 

I may remark thai Mit. Carrb will find m 
Butler's Memoirs of DiiUtop IlHthaiej/, 1790, some 
particulars of CuptAiu Elliot's victory over Thurot. 
Any songs connected therewith I "shall be most 
happy lo see recorded in your pages. 

William ILiiisisoir. 

Rods MouDt, lalc of Man. 

TiiARD, A SrR^fAKB (4"* S. iv. 615.) — Tbi« 
limy be the same a.<« the French names Tizxard, 
Thizard. Thezard, Tb^zard, Thiessard, Desert, 
Dissert, Dezert, Dissord, which would all seem to 
be patronymics, perhaps from one of tlie names 
This, Thi^. Tbeis, Th<*is, Thez, Tisa^, TiavJ>o», 
Dix, [conf. the diminutives Thezan, I'bdsal. 
Tiftsel, Tisaol, Tison, Tisselin, Thlssclin]; most of 
which are probably nicknames. But qu: the Old 
French (/«, 10; rf(><, rfw-s, rfer, 2 ; rfw. diz, the 
day ; lJe.i; Dic^, DieZf God. Tizard mi?ht evea 
bo equivalent to the name Godard = ''Strong in 

God, K. S. CHAH50CK. 


A Mr. W. L. Tizard wrote n book on Brewing, 
of which the fourth edition was published in 
1857. There are two Mr. Tizards in the present 
year's London Directonj, on© of them being, I 
think, the author of the' book above mentioned. 

R. B. P. 

Jonv WitKES IN ITAIT, irCo (•!'*• S. iv. 530.) 
Here w port of an autigraph letter of Wilkes'* 
ttddregsed from Naples to Mr. Suanl on May 2/i, 
17<y), which fully coincides with that of Winckel- 
uiann to lleyno concerning Wilkes, who says :— 

**Ihave been mnre deeply enf^a^od than you would 
believe of a man of such voUtiLc "piiits lu Nmuni haa 
Kiven me, stlcnfline to oothinp but the two work.3 I have 
in hand — my edition of poor Churcl«ill and the 
* History of KngUnd.' I ha\-e almost finislio"! CliurrhiK. 
and 1 hope liave done ju«tico to the n-iuuias of a friend 
who >till calls tbe tcan into my eyea." 

• Thi* artion li>ok place on Fobruon' 28, 1760, sod 
TUurolV tlirec voswls were brought into Ram*ey Bay. A 
near neighbour of mine, aince tJe<,-tiafleil, often loW ma bs 
perfectly remembcrod hearing' the firing of the cannon 
(luring the engagement, and the excitement that pre- 



"4'-' S. V. Jan. «. TO. 

llf pives a Inngr and ycry curious description 
of tilt! liqwefactipn of St. Jaiiuariii.i's blooj, then i 
adds : — j 

*' I have a presiint from Konie uf a ^cpulubral urn of \ 
alabnster, which I nm ^linp: to in^rribr to my frienil in 
hi.4 three great charaotcrd—n choarful (h/l-) vomx>auion, a ' 
I'ittvT ;>atirbt, and a true patriot. ' 

Ca«(>i.o Cmuih niM,, ; 

.Amiuo jucunilo, • 

Voativ aori. 
Civi optimprte jiatria nic-rito, 

Jobnnnesi Wilkes. i 

P. A. I.. 

The Gu.vnT**^' lUxns (4''^ S. ir. 51^1.)— The ; 
blaciis iu the Gimrds' bands^ wlio plajed the bass ' 
drum, cymbftls, tftnibourin**, and bells, wure iutro- ■ 
duced by the royal dnkcs who Tvt^re colonels of 
these n-jrimentfi in the latter part of the cen- ; 
turr. I'Vancis, the liiat of the blaclta in the j 
(rrenadier Guards, was discbarg^ed in 1840; the 
Coldiitream Guards j;;ot rid of theirs about the ] 
same time ; and the last black in the Scots Fusi- ! 
lior (inardsi-who was a native of Martinique, was j 
discharged in December, 1841. The distinctive ' 
dre.fi8— ecarlot overalls and jacket with white ' 
sleeves, (but not the turban) — was retained in the ! 
bnnd of the BeoU Fitsilicr Gnanls till 18C0. 


Colonel and Major, Grenadier Guards. 

Tnu AViiiTK SuAX (4'*' S. iv. 515, 570.)— In 
connection with tUu suppoution tltat the name of j 
l*ltz-Swanne ia a corruption from Hweyn, it seems 
worth while to note tho origiji uf Swanscombe in 
6woyn*s Camp. Geokge Bbdo. 


I am obliged for the information about this 
bird, but unfortunately no instances are frivcn of ^ 
royal arms with such a supporter. If Sir G korok 
ASMTTA6E will refer to WiUement he will fmd | 
a doubt thrown on the statement that llcury IV. ' 
hfid any supporters at all, and 1 think it pretty ' 
clear thuthe had not; and no other osamplo of a 
sovereign using such a supporter is g:iven in Wil- 
lement or in the Uurl. MSS. 

Hbxry F. Pomoxby. 

lysER RivEU (i*" S. iv. 478,)— The follow- 
ing is extracted from a traveller's diai-y published 
in Mr. Matthew Maclie's Vancouver 'Maud and 
British Columhiii (Ix>ngmanR, 1805), p. 225 : — 

"lOth [May, 186a J . . . The Frauer wiuils iU way 
through the Lilloot \ allov, the river-bed beiu^ 190 feet 
helow the ijlain. The land rises up from the river in ter- 
races, level and re^fnlar ; and these assume hues varying 
witli tho (irasons. Probably the whole valley was once 
the basin of a lake whooo waters subt>idcd gradaally, 
thcM benches being old water marks. On one of tliene 
terracc-likc levels on the rifrht bank of the river, i* the 
town of Lilloct J its altitude l,0a(j feet." 

Combe Vicarage^ near Woodstock. 

"W'nipri.NG AT X'xnERsiiiKB (4*'' S. iv. 534.)— 
Your correspondent will find this passage in "The 
Customs and Manners of the English," an extract 
from Aubrey's MSS. in the Ashmolean Museum, 
given in Grose's Antiquarian JiepHi^trt/, U 74. ft 
is nn error, however, to identify the' Dr. lN»lter 
named by Aubrey with John Potter the Arch- 
bishop of Canterbury. Aubrey speaks of Dr. 
Potter of his own college. Trinity, Oxford ; whereiw 
the archbishop was a member of Univenify and 
Lincoln Colleges, some fifty years later. There 
are »t>me strong as8ertions among the extracts 
given by Grose, hut this is as incredible as onT 
among them. Hknry T. I^ilrt.' 

Your correspondent hns omitted to notice vlut 
is said in Dr. Samuel Johnson's Life <^ Miltm, 
In the beginning of his fifteenth year the jx^t 
was eont to the T. uiverMty of Cambridgo : — 

"That hcobtniucil no fcllowiihip in carfain; but the 
nnkindnesa with which he was treated, was not mrrehr 
negative. T am ashamed to relate what I foar is tme, 
that Milton was one of the last students in either unlvtr- 
Ntv that auffered the public indignitv of corporal lyir- 
rcc'tion."— Licet vftht tv€t$, i, l*Jl-l3it, edition 17^3. 



Tin: ExsTOG Prx (41" S. iv. 313.) — Tlie 
ExniDg pyx was exhibited in 1845 at one nH the 
meetings of thu Archscologlcal Institute by the 
liev. Augu&tua Thorpe, of Chippenham. S«« 
vol. ii. 205. A description from the pen of Mr. 
T. F. Clark, late of Newmarket, with a drawing, 
is to be found in the first volume of Thu Xiv- 
cecdiiigs of the Suffolk Ai'chaohgical hiditidf. In 
the account of the meeting 1845, it is stated tbit 
the pyx had been found at Chippenham. This is 
an error. I suspect also that the Kev. Augustas 
Thurp was tho exhibitor, not Thorpe, as the name 
is spelt. If my conjecture be correct, an iuquiiy 
addressed to Chippenham, where tho familv of 
Thnrp reside, would probablv bring the pvx to 
light. ' liiLl). 

Garbekiko Book ^4*»' S. iv. 274.) — TTie book 
for which Cornttb. inquires will no doubt be 
Lauremberg's Apparatus PitnUarim, fVankfotl- 
am-M., 1032. P. 

"Violet; or, the Danseuse" (4*** S. it. 1"% 
324, 307, 400, 402, 543.)— The very &tiwig inteniil 
evidence against Violet having been written bj 
Captain Marr^'at, coujiled with the fact that he vil 
not in the habit of wnting anonymously, caused 0t» 
to marvel much at the letter of your corrcspondeat 
Rose, which attributes to Captain Marryat (and 
on the authority of his daughter) tho authorship 
of the novel in question. Captain Marryat mi 
write a novel called Monsieur Violet. To the bwt 
of my recollection the novel treated of the ad- 
ventures of a French dancing-master, and — an ex- 
ception to Marryat'fl rule — was not acknowledged 

4i»S.V. Jjtx.e,»7U.J 

WT^^, 4.ND, CiUKJUl!;^., 





in tmyll ,«Ql>8equeot]v to if« Now 
ATe ^onfounJcJ 'i the 

J lUBY. 

Umalu (4* Sw iv. 303.)— Xlw tb- 

■ ■" ' -"■' -"-^ . f tbe royal crown, tfafl 

% I'art of Ih© crown 

. : f ft3 tbe reign ol' 

coroimliim the 

fuifu OP value, 

'. Olid was 

, , .ivSf it Wflfi, 

iiUunhili, " cafiteu o{ new 

E )!» ybHMVtMl, we 

Umitorl qenso of an nltcmtian 

n or tlir arches, uot an ttcliuil 

: M'- *itb!>(itnce oftbe crown." — S'c*?- 

'•■■" ''» rtit RerfoJin of Stottanff, 
'ueClub. 4to, Kdinb.l8:>0, 

* ' II VlU-118 VlTJAN. 

.....^w, .w.:,^ i-i"' S. iu. oBO; 

lowing, whidi iiavo been very 

'if 1 h&ve talten fram if /r^/i? 

" (fA* /r; Dfthiu), indicttltur ties 

Vans: — 

IKit?, Lfl twuv'^llc ]une, (\al comroeDCcni 

tt, 'jr-oasliin^ni dc fiirtes plpicii, qui ^li' 

''!nlM dtt 15 aU 17, 

• 9i)n\i '21 oar In 

HUT Ice c'lle* do 

I- 2-1 «ur U Mt^.Ii- 

I. i'Jtiiea du *Ji> mi 

T«iit tiu 4 mi fi. BourmfTjupi* mr Ic 

'If. Vent du 7 au M mr U 

: ' f.p prrmirr ijitnrti«'r iJp ll 

lakA MJurUtic.)" 


,-n?;i_.C!Hv*?rfll pic- 

I'lUctGr and 

::^, remain, 

tu tbe tVoUtea of Uiut 

1 at the nn'<tin|i of the 

^ 'TWBttr ill 1S02, iind 

• I culftlogiie ; but wti 

[lie iiumiiTOUs family 

trnit cif bis distin- 

■' v'ood, near 

- mnnsioi), 

.' (' 


"Guumm.e" in TopooiupincAX NiXBS ('P* 

S. iv. 33r>,-JV)l, CTO.")— I liftvo inUindttd, but for- 
gotten, to fiuizg-Mt the poMibility that the word 
crumhfc or ciwubic iu local nnraea ia Celtic, ond a 
corriiptioD of OTC«i-?ia/,ft('ouipouod otcrwm (pi*o- 
nouuced croom), crooked, and An/ (iJiin, I tAke it, 
to Siiuakiit hata, water), wat^r. I find myself 
ftiitifipated by Mr. H. S. CflARXncK't; flaying' that 
" tbis word [cnimbh] ig probably from the Celtic 
rrwm, croui, crooked: a'om^aJ would signifv thd 
crooked water." While I write this, 1 have before 
rao a sketch I took in AnguH 1865 of Hoc'k 
Kroomtn, a detached rock on the seaahorc, about 
ft milo (to speak from memory) westof notcoff, a 
town in Brittany, tliive milea from St Tol de 
L^ou. It is a narrow ln^iini} rock, some thirty 
feet high (if I rumombc-r aright), «h>pin^ frentJy 
toward Lho inhnd end, and riaing abru[>ltv at the 
end that l'nc*is the sea. J'he IJrelon wordXrn«/««4 
(pronounced hvomm) ajean;* stooping. Tiiue. 
I krotimm to, fuiff U4n {ituunnh chonz meiuu "he \a 
I stooping, though alill young." Kroumlei'h meauft 
' stooping atone, anmlec^. And thi» leada lue to 
I 8ny. that out of L*--oa tho word in kromm, iuet^ad 
of ArvM/»»*. Jons lIoeKixe-AoRAOAi^L. 

Cwmbe Ticaragr, ucar AVvi)iI»t«ok. 

M. J. Dji:cFOi*Ta (4^ is. V. 14.)— Your ronv- 
spondent Hf.KSiANN KrKDt ariis aomo particulara 
as to M, J. Paufgrth; and ulthouj^h my memory 
does not servf me as it used to do, 1 send a few 
partitMilrtrs that may help him in his search. 

M. J. Dunforth wiwanotiveof America. About 
forty years Bpo be wiw fiver hwe for the purpose 
of sindy, and waa a stndent of thr Royal Academy, 
totjethpr with a countryman of his, John Kendrick 
FishtT, who also came over to study engraving. 
The liittor, however, liking art hotter, left the 
o>pp«: f(ir tho canvaa : and having on that ac- 
count dii*ploasod bis graudfiithor, who hini pro- 
mised to support him here, had hie allnwirnce cht 
otf, and he pursued kiit art under many diflicuKM<9. 
Aficr'n time, they bnth left for Arneriofl, where I 
have fiince heard Danforth continued toengrftTe. 
I think he was cn;^ged on a plan* fVom a picture 
of hU friend Le?Iie. Whether he still Uvee, of 
how hoancoeeded in hia native country, I do not 
know; hut he was proaperouR when I last heard 
of him. Some of Jlr, Leslie's fauuly, if thi^i 
shouH meet their pye«, may know more of hina. 

I Think I recoHoct some niei?oUut« by l)awo, 
and hftvft a feeling fhey -were from his own jmiiit- 
injia — ralhor inelo-Sraniatic ncddtfutj* at fa. 
I '• Saved " wa? the title of one— a shin in a gtv^e, 
' with a child overboard, and a mua c'liii^Hu;^ to a, 
rope from the bowspiit, wizing thy drowning, 
child juftt as the bow6|mt riuM on ilie coming 
wftvcu Tin's, however, mnv be a confuted memnrv. ' 

L\TIN- Htitues . 0.)— 1 miut nliko 

disclaim the honour ui u-.'.ng a *' troxr^Uci^ 



[4«'S.V. jAK.«;7a 

•cholar " va the sense Kb. Cbosslst means, and 
the reproach of occupyinj? the faculty I am sup- 
poaed to have on any such **craMffe recocia as 
Homer," &c I have never translated a word of 
Greek or I>atin poetry into English, t-xoept as ft 
achool exercise iDto prote. The little I have done 
has been from EngUah into Greek or T^tin. 


Hsfi^ey, Stonii)ridge. 

Quotations wasted (4*" S. iv. 5G1.) — "The 
Tenomous reptiles in [qu. Norway or Iceland P]." 
I have always seen this nscribed to Olans Magiius, 
but I do not remember whether he is really puilty 
of it, IIermektbuse. 

The Rev. George Bennet (-i^ S. iv. 400, 
563.) — In an article on this divine at p. 663 of 
the last volume of " N. & Q." by your valued cor- 
respondent De. Craufubd Tate Kamage, it is 
stated that amongst his friends wfla Markham, 
Archdeacon of C'arUsle ; and in another article on 
the same subject and page by Dr. Rogers, be is 
called Archdeacon .\farithtim, Aa " N. & Q." is 
80 frequently used us a book of reference it ia 
desirable that accuracy in all its statements should 
be as far as possible eecured ; and the Editor has 
further got all his correspondents in the way of 
giving the precise authority for their statements, 
which of course is another point adding very 
much to the utility ni the publication. 

Permit me then to observe that Robert Mark- 
ham was never Archdeacon of Carlisle, though 
he was a prebendary of that cathedral, and no 
doubt from this circumstance became acquainted 
with Mr, Bennet Tie was Archdeacon of York 
and Rector of Bolton Percy, where he died in 
1837, and is buried in tho churchyard. He was 
bom in 1768, anrl was the fifth son of William 
Markham, Archbishop of York, and tutor to 
Georj^ rV. (See Alumni Westmotiasterienses, 1852, 
p. 422, and the History of the Marhham Family^ 
p. 78.) 'John Pickpokb, M.A. 

Bolton Percy, near Tadcastcr. 

I>BLAHAIN (4"' S. iv. 613, 673.)— I have several 
interesting letters from Henry Delamain of Dublin 
relating to his inveution of the use of coals in 
heating potters' kilns instead of wood or turf, 
which ho says he had successfully adopted in his 
own manufactory. His aim seems to have been 
to obtain a reward from Parliament for the dis- 
covery. One of his letters is written at Liver- 
pool, whither he had just rftiivcd to confer witli 
the principal potters, and to intluce them to back 
his petition, lor at that tiuic Liverpool was the 
centre of tho earthenware manufncture. This 
letter is addressed to his wife, "Mrs. Mary Dela- 
main, at the India Warehouse, Abbey Street, 
Dublin,'* dated Dec. 18, 1753, givinfr ht*r direc- 
tions io see a person of the name of Stringfeliow, 
who appears to have been in hie service, for con- 

firmation aa to the success of the use of coal in 
his kilns. It concludes — " I shall go to Londoa 
this day, and shall call in my way at Worster to 
see the fine new manufactory." 

Some other of his letters are written to 3Ir. 
William Stringfellow, at the Delft Manufactonr ia 
«the Strand, Dublin, dated Dec. 1753 and Jan. 
1754 — all referring to the same subject TTm 
letters are too long for the pages of " N. k Q.,*' 
but they will appear shortly in the third edition 
of my Marks and Monograms on PafUry and 
Porcelain which is now passing through the 
press, and I shall be happy to show them to toot 
correi*pondent Y. 9. M. if he will call upon me. 

W. Chattebs. 

19, Fitzroy Square. 

HisTOBT OP TmiEE Impostohs (4»'» S. iv. 501.) 
Of these three worthies, it may be further 
gathered from the title-page of the scarce Httle 
book cited by W. F. that — 
"The One (was) pretended Sou and Heir to the late 

Grand Signior; 

The Other, a Prince of the Otttman FamUy, bat ii 

truthf a Valackian CouiUerfeit ; 

And the Last, 

The Suppos'd Messiah of the Jrim, in the Fem^ of tbe 

true Mt$$iah, 1C66." 

A copy of the book itself, to which W. F. nmrt 
now be referred for further information, occurr?d 
in Willis's catalojrue, July 25, 1857, " very raw, 
0«. (W." It is hardly likely, however, to be obtun- 
able after so long a lapse of time. But W. F. netrf 
not despiur, as the matter fortunately exists in t 
moro readily accessible form. The book, though 
published anonymously, was written by the cele- 
brated John Evelyn, and is reproduced in tbe 
Miscdlaneom Work* of that author, edited, witk 
notes, by William Upcott, _4to, 1825. IfW.F. 
is not able to meet with this, I shall be happy to 
lend him my copy of the original work, and will 
forward it by post on receipt of his address. 

I should also refer him to the Otn$u'tout of 
Robert Southej- (2 vols. 12mo, 1812). Here h« 
will find an article on one of the so-called impo^ 
tors — Fr. Domenico Ottomano — in whidi itisw* 
serted that the title of the book conveys a &lis 
meaning, inasmuch as Padre Ottomano, "thoncl 
no Ottoman, was certainly no impostor"; »• 
further account of this personage and his clutni 
is continued over several pages (pee i, 60.) Ti« 
writer was apparently unaware of the authoni'P 
of tho book, though he notes that the dedicitsa 
(to Ivord Arlington) bears the initials J. E. 

William Bates. 


Jkres-Oivk (4*" S. iv. 561.)— This word, und* 
the name of "yeres-give," is queried by Mr.Hilfy, 
in his translation of the City Liber ARnu. B' 
thinks it means an official new-year's gift 


«tt&V. JA3r.8>7a.] 



Coo«BB WiTER-FiPES (4* S. iv. 532.)— The 

iwia^ extract from the cbttrchwordeoe' ac- 

lU oif Louth. CD. Lincoln, tniij be helpfal to 

OUT ct3rre*pondt'ut : — 

*• ISO-I-.I. Kc«aiiy.i of Ric- Kavthby for xviij nloiio I«<I 

& xlU } VUta vj**. fecn» U» . t^V 

Edward Pbacock. 

tEi.ivK ^4*" S. iv. -WO.) — BeltLv or J^/if* si^- 
" jiiii-kly,"^ ** with life," oa iu Faert/ Queencj 

imc naj the tUrvfuU tlamcs doe tlrlre 
Jiitii i.>>js(»4riiJl cI]iiiT3L,f)M wiih rusty blood. 
-VbiI .I.jwhc to I'lntoes houw} nrc come Iwlirc.'^ 

Aad cftDto ix. 4 — 
■" Unto oU TImiiQ hi mo bruugtii tijUvc." 

T. F. Falebsb. 

"OAyoar Bosavexitiu WRinxa ms Memoirs 

AWm Rtt BsATB ** (-t* .S. iv. •^of>.) — Mrs. Jnmiv 

va. ia Uer/«;wMfo o/lhe Mf/nnftic Orders, p. 2VH. 

my that, ucc>rdin^ to a Spnnish legeod S. Bonn- 

itTVim. aftrr hh dt nth, returned to the earth for 

t" hi? Life of *S. Fratu^. lie 

i- a picture in the Louvrt' 

' wearing his doctor's cap 

atly expre&^ioD of countea- 

.iluia wiot born at ilagnarea, in 

- . lit the ape of twenty-two be took 

in iiabit, aod soon became greatly 

L In 1250 he "vras chosen fft^neral of 

' mImi derlined the arohhiahopric 

■ im by Popft Clement IV. Gre- 

. in to tluj diffnity of a cftrdinnl. 

to give him tlie hat found him 

*->in ^^hicb ho had just dined. 

.'i hat on a tree till he had 

lure* of bLui the bat is fre- 

d. He died in 1274, ^Thile 

I "f Lyons. 

Jonx Piaoor, Jvn., r.S.A. 

' ■ '^ -" - '* -(4*" S. IT. 561.") 

I little chanoo of 

i.ur.wi>rih, Halliwell, 

ir several gloMnries. 

:>c ia in reidity aoatffe, 

a nanie o^ the Sertaie naoor is generally 

badly written^ might look 

ipo *' Biltout it in the luet 
r Jam«B Lowtber Beared. 
iWliiy tb« leiUT niay »ef«c to this ? 


Houtprc (4'* S. iv. 4/Jl, Ut\ 550.)— Allow 
'^^ t . tljank iiiv fr'-eQi! Mi:. FrAXK Redk Fuwke 

to my herahlic 

. AA in apreenient 

1 the tuimer^ that the arms 

' . but I was tmuble to iden- 

lify them.- The Cliflbrds of Fninipton-on-8*TCm 
and other bmncbes who dilft^rencc with a hftTiiJ, 
cbar;;e that orilinary with 3 Uonceux. or 3 leo- 
pards' faces; and the Herefordshire CUfTordSf who 
adopt cinqfoilfl, place them on a fesse. 


The PHRAftB ** Deah Me*' (4'** S. iv. ftU ; v. 

24. ) — It may be worth a note in reference to this 
expression, that its exact reprenetitntivQ in the 
TernBcular of Southern (and possibly Northern » 
Germany — as the verlwl nccomnanimeut of a 
long-drawn aigh — is^'Ohja" ('*Oli yes"). Ilow 
this expression came to be bo used one is soEue- 
times at a Iu«a to imagine. JlcaitAGOBAU. 

QuOfATIOirS WA5TED (4* S. IT, 501.)— '^FoT^ 

tior eat qui se," &c. I am unable to inform 
Qcjv^Tou where to find his quotation, exactly aa 
it standi ; but it l» cortiiiuly fonndtd u]xm the 
words of the :J:?nd rorso of the I'ith chapter of 
the IJook of Prnveibe. The poasage in the Vul- 
gate is thia: — 

** M«Uor eit patiens vm foni : ot qui dtunmatur mnim9 
MM, cjyN^^aatore uf^mm," 

F. C. H, 

[ A rpply Iff the same effect luis bceu received from tbo 
Wer.F. PnrLLiJiT.— Eu. «N. A Q.**] 

*'*'rho venomotis reptiles of , . . ." — Horre- 
bon If History oflrclmtd^chao. xlvii. *' Concerning 
Owls " : " There oru iu Ireland no owla of any 
land whatovor." K. P. 

Cardinal RicnKUEr (4»'' 8. v. 15,)— S.3e the 
first chapter of Miss Pardne's Lottu XIV., His 
Court and TitHfs* The writer gives no author!- 


Depestiahle (4'" S. iv. 608.) — This i* a new 
word, and therefore not to be welcomed unle^ 
wanted. But, unlcsa it has before be-;ri men- 
tioned, it may be worth while to ndduce Iho well- 
estrtldished word "avnilahlp" iw a perfect pre- 
cedent for *'rf liable." If the latter ia wmng 
berjiufie it ouj^ht, if Rnything-, to be "rt'ly-on- 
able," so ought '• nvailablo " to be '*avail-of- 

Id truth, nothing is Diore idle than the attempt 
to appW rules of consistency lo the structure of 
the English Iituiruage. Ia there any ^en»e of 
either '* reliable or "dependable" which the 
simple* Snxon " trustworthy " does not give just 
as well r LTTTKi/roiff. 

Dklamaik (4** S, IT. 513, 573.)— I beg to refer 
Y. S. M. to the biographical noticea prefixed to 
my CWfrcfion of ChanU, &c., wherp he will liud 
Henry do la Main described as a French H'ujruc- 
noi refugee, and orsninist and vicar-choral of Cork 
Cathedral. He died in 1796. 

B. St. J. B. JotrtE. 



[-IAS.V. JAX8,*ni; 

IlEMoviNd Ink Staixs (4**" S. iv. 632.) — 
HebmjLnk Kixdi will certainly be succeaaful with 
a solution of one or other of the following salts 
applied with a bair pencil — oxalate of ammonia, 
chforinatod liine, crauidc of potassium. If oxalate 
of ammonia be used, the solution should be icw»i, 
and I only advise the employment of the cyanide 
in the event of failure with the other two sub- 
stances, as it is extremely poisonous. When the 
ink has been remoTcd the paper must be carefully 
washed in water and dried. 

IIarkv Napier Draper. 


IIksry IV. OP Fbakce (4"> S. iv. 613.)— The 
books recommended for thw reign by Professor 
Smyth of Cambridgo are Perefixe's iiVi?, De 
Thou, SuUy'a Memoirea, Mably, Wraxali, Vol- 
ture's Ilatriadej and the JEdict of Nantes. Wochs- 
muth refers to Cayet, Chronohgie dcp. 1689-lCi)8 
(Paris, 1608, 3 vols. 8vo) ; Ldtres de Bomara^ 1005 
(3 vols. 12mo), and du Card. d^Osxat, 1627, &c. 
There are some references in the Penny Cyclo- 
padta, xii. 117-118, which may also be consulted 
ny M. A. if the preceding do not supply his wants. 

T. J.'Buckton. 

TKXHisoy (4*** S. iv. oOl.) — Tennyson rery 
probably refers to the poet LongfelloV, whose 
poem "The Ladder of St. Augustine " opens thus : 

" Saint Augustine I well hast thou sai<l. 
That of our vices wc can frame 
A ladder,* if we will buL tread 
Beneath our feet each deed of ehame. 

*' AH cominnn thinf,'^, each day's eventa. 
That with the hour begin and end, 
Our p1en.-;ur(>s and ntir disc^ntent.s 
Are rounds by which we may ascend." 

Xew University Club. 

J. G. Galtox. 

It never occurred to me to doubt that the 
Laureate's reference is clearly to the Psalmist 
David's fre^iueut foreshadowiugs of a future life. 
*' Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell . . . Thou 
wilt show mo the path of life," is, I need not 
remind If. B., only one out of a legion, 

R. C. L. 

GABiftEL Claktce (4*'' S. iv. ii34.)— The para- 
graph in The Athcneeum does not refer to the 
Gabriel CUrko of Ejrham, but to a suggestion 
that Gabriel Clarke of Kghani may have been the 
father of Gabriel Clarke the archdeacon; and the 
parngraph in The Aikcntpnm of July 18, 1808, re- 
fers for Gabriel Clarke of Egham to No. 2122, 
but I cannot lind such statement in that number, 
imd I repeat the query, where is the information 
to be found ? S. S. 

• " De vitiia uostris scalam nobis Tncimus si vitia ipsa 
calcamus." — S. August, Sermon III. De Aacrnsionr. 

Oekkalowcal Qijbribs, No. 2 (4* 8. iii. 104.) 
" AUanora, widow of Richard Is Denienaer.^ 
Concerning the above I hare iband the foUowing; 
which I hope may be of serrioe to your eotn^ 
spondent IIermentritde : — 

Thomas Spencer, crei^ted second Barl of Glra- 
cester, 1308, was slain in a tumult at Bristol, 
1509. Ue had by his wife Constauce, daughter 
of lidmuud PUntagenet, sou to Edward HI., be- 
sides two daughters, a son Richard Spencer, whe 
married Elianor, third daughter of^ Raphe de 
NeviU, first Earl of Westmorland, by his second 
wife Joan Beaufort, daughter tA John of Gaunt, 
by his third wife Kattierine Swinford, eldest 
I daughter and co-heir of Sir Pain Rnet. Richaid 
j died 8. p. and bia widow married secondlv ta 
Henry Percie, Earl of Northumberland, by whoa 
I she had a numerous issue. I). 0. £. 

Si. AtKELDA (4*'^ S. iv. 207.)— The foUowu^ 
1 extract from the will of " Wyllii Wylle, Claxks^ 
I Dean & pson of Mydelehiu " may be of interest to 
your oorreapondent :— 

" Itim. I bequiethe k gyve to my prcbe churche cf 
ilydelchoi toward . . . . of a beli the tl^rde b«D ft ' 
sniailyste^ a boyllo of syla^ the grea teste, and all thi 
sylner In the . . . . In the charchc of Mydlam i^ 
was of saynte Alkyld heyd, & a peice of sarnte Albm 
licid y* is in my chyst io y" . . , yf y« they TrrW'hr 
a hell, or els, not." 

(Part of the will is torn away, hence the de- 
fects indicated by dots.) J, C. C. Smith- 

" Avoir lb Touk bt lb Potm " (4«*' S. iv. 50.0.) 
About "avoir le tour" I know nothing; bat 
" avoir le pour " is an historical fact. The Dae de 
St. Simon gives an account of the fuss which was 
made bv certain ambassadors at the court of 
Louis XlV. because the camp-lod^gn assLnied 
to them did not^ like the lodgings of pnnce^oear 
the inscription "pour'* preceding their namfs. 
As to the general question of Victor Hago's acen- 
racv, I would submit whether some of us little 
midges of literature might not do well to ba^ in 
the Deams of that radiant, intellectuaJ, and ima- 
ginative luminary, rather than pry out his seetd. 
After all, is thea> in L' Homme qiti Rit anytning 
more monstrously nonsensical (if tested Sy the 
canons of plain matter-of-fact) than things which 
stare us out of countenance in Shakspeare? Let 
us just try to realise to our mino, as men of 
" common sense and none of your infernal Frpnch 
rubbish." this situation. A leading " Merchant 
of Venice " enters into n legal bond for the pu^ 
pose of raising money to assist a friend to chooss 
a wife by tbe process of guessing between t 
golden, a silver, and a leaden casket The peotltr 
of the bond is the cutting-olT of a pound of the 
merchant's flenh nearest the heart. The bond is 
enforced in a court of law. No lawyer can dis- 
cover a flaw in it ; but at last the bride, disguised 
OS a lawyer, comes forward, and thunder-strikeft 

V»B.T. i&x.'S.^TUu] 



nlli-ilii^r f)D(i the court by pointinjf outthnt 
^ Rut giTV Aoy blm^d nloiig with tbo 
lorvovor, that uiittt*r Xh** existing 
Iw whole twuKsncti'^n «xpo»es th« 
m?iplf to cruabio^ pertnltieff. For a 
:>fre that will, I fnncy, do pretty 
■ ■ rfiii produce ono Slialtspearo 
M, flnil Frnnee «in 
•:\\z with mrtny Tot^ra 
ly. 1 ao^poct thnl most 
5 of rosoftrch in L'/Iomrnp 
St uBTo Foinc louujfttion, ibongb ninny of 
fttAjr b« viewed by the autlior out of tbeir 
ftfoportinzE and rtilution. Of coun=>o, bowerer, 
Hmn ftlvwvs -will bo & rosiiiuum of niititftko. Ver- 

• i 

*>■? pennaneutly iinpct&siblo to persuade 
1 that Barkiiphearo and Tom-Jira- 
l-xik to the eve or sound to tbe ear 
ufcines; i^r tliat ''Frith of Forth ** 
liifferin^ from "First of Fourth/' 
atnt'nd all our own blundcra in tbe 
line, and L-ejido to fancy (for instance) that 
aiik«ien who dub themsalvefl ** I Zingori " Are 
th*v)»f irrioff tbeir knowled^ of Itfttiftn, wt may 
begw in qttnlify ouwehea for "chafliDif '* Victor 
Uuiro. ' W. M. ICossBrn. 

ti, Koston $qu«r«, KW. 



77nif !,('■. 'Ittjitriif,:!! /■(/ .iti'icnt Rt iimm$, awf 
'. Savwfea. By Sir 
/ lUUtim. (Wil- 

rebijtlyrlc archjwjlogy 

a branch of 

I time. 

. 'U.-^ Ill tUf lieduii- 

i^ubl>ook ndtl> to 

„. : of arranging \\\n 

maimer, and Grin^'iiif; 

••r^ in 11 mojt plono^ni, 

ition of tbe 

: ij'ij, and tbo 

anil iiDftortant; and 10 

• ni-nlly increasing the 

■ <ompreftscd 

- -. A Isfffa 

_ . . , Uich it con- 

ot mitre than serenly 

M>r wi'M olnurvM, ** will 

■ ; 'iple.l 


' I >k IS 

>>v tov Itif^lily. 

. I ut-ihiftffrafihj/, Edittti 
'''ciioH anil a Cmn~ 
-t Lord liyron by 

liu and dltaine tvtiich 


Stowc'i ofllcitms inft'inirJ llinL'in a inithTwiiti uliii b ^f« 
liadnoeoneeni. iru 

tlie unhappy l:i<l 
iti fuce Hucb %\ I 
anrl of its not [ 
once oiijfht to i 

poor Mri. Ldgh'* lift- bad Uvii t-inljiUcmi bvtlic pfliiifUl 
events which /brm the Bubjeotortliii autobfnViphy must 
have «xpoct«l that Mr^. SloweV ; , wwild bo 

the means of bringing tbi.- rLocI iT*i»re iho 

tiuliljc; ihuui^b fow could b4ve .i uut wbat 

Mri Stowo calU " the abnomiiU piwinjiiaiunsi to evil" of 
thn writer could have calminatod in an rndfavour to fix 
Qputt her unhappy uiotbor « cmU a 9ti;;nifi. XDthiny 
h«.i been gttice<l by tbe publication of thiit »tatom«ut: 
and we regret tbnt J)r. Mackoy'ft advice th:it it should 
bf mpproft^d \fs\A not adapted ; bnt that advice bdin^- 1^ 
jcctcd, the br.olL iduKI iinl have beoo «Ul«i wiib bolUsr 
judgment thati Dr. Alaukay has didplayed. 

AhCmM nnd Modem SeattuA Snmf, rf*r*ur BnffniU i-e 

CW/rc/frf /.y Dnvid n ' " ; " • ".:!i'Un 

o/'177f), with an Ajij , /Ac 

EUitWH ./I79t /»r ( ' . ,; U 

twn vofvtiuM. (Kerr & liicUjirdiou, GU^gui*.) 

The two volamas of Scottish |ii«pular pactry whioJi are 
here rei>rinl<vd, which wfre pr.uinunced by Sir \Vull«r 
Scott '• the first clnsaical collcotiun of Scotlisb tfcnffi oad ^ 
ballodV have lon(c hocn numbered among' the books ' 
which oollfctord lud o diflioulty in procuring. This has 
induced ^ieusrs. Kerr d iiii:hiLrdMU, the publlsbfrs of 
tilasgow, to iwuo a fao-simile rwrint of the edition of 
t77G, but it ia a fao-iiHtile wila a diffcrenco, as thu 
heroldfl would say; for it Is in a liLurary point nf view, 
better than iho uriguiul, flla■^mul:h as to this rc-i*='uc is 
added an Appeudix 4?ontainin;c; all the piece<i subatltut^U 
in the edition of 17^1 for lho«i> rmiittvd of th<> edition of 
I77rt, and one wliii-h vvii* oonlanied in the Qrnt wlrtinn, 
and not includnd in any of the pubsequpnt one,^. Ilcrd's 
notes In the 1776 edition — many of which wem ItA ant 
in the latrr — are reslonnli and oa hia two veraions n( 
*' Auld Rubin Giey *' diHer ^ widely, liutii ara printed. 
This will tihow (hat tlie pubU^berti de«erve Uie tiiauks of 
all lovers of good old ditties. 

Notices of ArchhUiwp JVillinywt, B*f D. *il. Becdlinm. 
{Printed for Private Cirmfatiotu) , 

Tbe -wriler of the«e interdtioi; noUcea pf tbo ^eat • 
Lord Keeper (of wliicli only one hundred copioi nayc * ' 
been printed), atatea that his invejti^atiuns have Iwftr a *-^* 
labour of love, and have furiu»hefJ an obiifrt t'> iTinny H' ' '' 
pltia«aat juurucy, for nothing Ib &•' !.' 

to make rcftearchc3 penouRlIy ou i 
might have bei*itatca to call attcni 

ing as it does uikui iin tiile-page ttiv uuiiuuncemtrut that 
it in " printod for private circulation," hut that wo 
)»at!i r •' - -■ vv-ritcr ii still cnt,-i ' '; ' ' T. lif * 

Ar< ! 'iitiu.4, Auil 14 anxi nn- 

put . of his whieh are ji. ,:itidt4| 

of auy particuljiid ruhttiiig Lq htm. tlua hiul ntd» wo 
are sure, not bo loitt upon our rcAden>. 

.V«' Erpntitiitn i»/' llit Sviri$C4 of iClWwUtlife, tjf J. tft 

Fichte. TramUded front tht Oenntin^ fry A. £, kiuc^ey. 

(Trilbnor \ C->.) 

We ma4 content r.urselveft with calling the attrntiriu 
of Eni;lu»h ro.iderB to this translaiii<n of i-'ichte'a " New 
Kxpo>iition of lIieScieniTa of Koowledg^^" a iran-^lntion of 
the uri^'inol and Aral preaeniatjoa wheroot', publi^hfl by 
iMchLeiu 17V4, was publubod by our aalhor in lI^iiH, ns 
was al&o a Lraoalation of bU " Science of Rights" ^ 



[4*aF. JA3r.8, 

The Jvumai of Fhilologjf^ Part IV. (MacmilUn.) 

Thid new noraber of Uke Joomol of Philology, c«n- 
tuna eighteen pspen on vuioas points of CLusteal and 
Biblical Learning, Notes on Roman Hiatoiy, Explanation 
of a passage in Firdaoai, and a ^luxful tribtue to the 
memory of one of its moat distingniahed cootributors,. the 
late FrbfesBor Conington. 

Mk. Rus8ELi,S«aTH, from whose large and well'^eeted 
stock of old books many of oar readers have no donbt en- 
riched their own special collections, is abont to give np 
that braseh of his basineas to his son, and confine his 
attention entirely to publidiing. Those who hare had 
anv transactions with Mr. Rnseell Smith aa a publisher, 
will, we are sure, join in wishing him every success. 

Enulish Satirical Pbints and Cabicatukes. — 
When announcing, some time since, a Catalogue of the 
Satirical Prints and Caricatnrc's in the British If uaeom, 
we attributed the preparation of it to Mr. Rcid (a 
gentleman who would be the last to assume the credit 
which was due to another) instead of Mr. F. 6. Stephens. 
This Catalogue will enumerate not only all the works of 
this description in the unrivalled collection of the late 
Mr. Hawkins, but also all those discovered by Mr. 
Stephens in the King's Tracts and similar pamphlets in 
the Museum ; and the first volume, which comprisea all 
issued between 1555 ancl the Revolution, will describe 
somewhere about 800 prints. 

This mention of Mr. Reid reminds us that his Catalogue 
of the JForks of George Cruikthank — works almost as 
remarkable fur theirnumber as fur their excellence — which 
is to be published by Messrs. Boll &. Daldy, is very nearly 

Newsvkhdob»'Bexbvoleiit and Providbst Ihsti- 
TUTios. — Mr, Charles Dickens (the president) who, it 
will be remembered, was prevented by ill health from 
filling that position in April lust, will take the chair at 
the approaching annual dinner. We congratulate the 
Kewsrendors upon gaining so able a chairman, and 
recommend their deserving institution to a genftrous 

The Btron Statdal. — If we may judge by the 
telegram from New York, Mrs. Stowe's defence, which 
she entitles '• Ludy Byron Vindicated," has given great 
ditjsati^ifaction. The press almost unaiiiEnourity condemns 
the book in severe terms. The Neic York Timet declares 
that she evades dates and proves nothing, and it regrets 
that she should persist in recording herself as the autho- 
rity for a revolting slander. The Htrcdd says that her 
arguments are weak, and that her motives arc to make 
money or to gain notoriety by pandering to depraved 
tastes. The World also very strongly condnnns the 

Fictitious Actographs. — Another manufactory of 
fictitious autographs has been discovered in Paris. A 
bookseller's assistant having purchased a number of what 
purported to be autngraplis uf Be'ranger, Kossini, Talley- 
rand, Ac, M. Etienne Charavay, to whom they wero 
shown, at once declared them to be false. A few days 
afterwards the female who had sold them offered some 
others to M. Charavay, who immediately gave her into 
custody. lier residence was found to &c furnished ex- 
pensively, and with great taste ; with a library of rare 
books, fragments uf ancient MS3., and fac-simifes of the 
writing of most of the remarkable people of the time. 
Upon being questioned, she acknowledged the pretended 
autographs were the production of her son. He was 
accordingly arrested at the office at which he was en- 
gaged, and was found by the police agents boay in 
making an aato^ph of Silvio Pellico, of which tfa^ 
had previously diafcovered four copies. 



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tR Carminum PmTcrlilalimn I.;H;i Communes, 4'c. iMad^Wt-Mi 
ofig book, to icbir/i for curHc tiim- u-f hnrt iHlcndcd to caU mtluti 
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and puv'', shtiuld cdimm be fiirm. The omMjtton o/mnl iai^nm 
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tapfily il. 

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Family ttpjtenrni ut \t. 43& tifnurliut i-vlm»e, is rffumWl to itttit 
a Utter maj/ be oc/drcwi J to him. 

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facti. Sco ■' N. fc (J." 3rf S. iv. 5l«. 

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a V. JJIJI. 16,'TO.] 


tvsiioft SATCanAr, jaju'abt l^ i»o. 

CONTKNTS.-N- 107. 

irOTBa:— " Wlllio Slewnrt " inii his Uuiigliter " Polly," M 
__r^..v..... .„ •> -Oiaaiid Ntw KditionB of " A AlliJ. 

n. .am," SQ-Tho Piiiilar of Wakcficltl, 

I' < t la ficnkisMiife, 38 — Rank in*- 

miu. .»...!-., ■ WltiUT Thrush" — A Robin Hood 

Wiiul — KiHiks publiahed by tSubficriplton — Uoivenrit/ iu 
LondoD, l(>i7.CS. 

QUEBLlBSt — Oeor»rp8trachan,B9-An ! Jmir- 

xtkliun, U— Australian Law Courts - lui — 

Armftoo a I-nllit Lilii.' — IJicfcrBphy— i ! iiown 

to Ann. I - " A \owBoakufSl.)cUU" — 

PoMla^ I : j - Old Chat — Cookr FAntity 

— «iiii _- i itt-nv — H. Furbes — MaiUuto 

de Orif;, i fkraliiU;— 

Jofaa Laninit": ' de Lauxun 

— MlUOeoflV" nil Airfl Dr. 

Pftlwr — *• XJic lUJkt-lo*' — at. Au-bfowui— MtJ. Voluiuu 
of Scrmoas, 1699, Ac. 00. 

Qtnoin WITH A38WBBB: — Coolcer*? " Arilhmtlic* — 
"9opbisU GeiK-ralia"— UoMrH " laiufnt for ibo Xhiya of 
ChiTBlry ■* — S»)Hg : "The C«tpero' Fife" — Jftiu>cn'« For- 

ftnitof Miltcti, <u. 

RBPLIKS ;— Armorial Book-plaUs, flS— Jauw-s BbMt, 07 — 
X)0 ScoUmay. ^3 — Broidcrpii, GO — Dr. PrankliD, 7« — 
Chmecir't l)ob-U[>^nd-down, 71 — "L'runiblo" in T4>pa- 
mpWoftl Namea, Ib. — OUX 8a3iii^ or Old Bflnga, ;!* — 
Xltefmry Intrrcourae bctw<>f>n Et)i,'lati(l nnfl Ihv Coiitiiii^>nt, 
Ac/6. — Tho Mm in tlw Iron 51i«St.7S — The " lUwkit.a' 
Co]l«9Ctton or UiUontiaJ I'riitti" at thA IJritifth Miueum — 
Her. A. fl. (irorarl ai.tJ a '• Lover of Comet Toita" — 
* Jereafflvf," a Mi^tak*! tor " Yorcefllue " — Greek Ring In- 
Mrtplioo — Priday Uultivky, Ac, 7A 

Srol«s oa BookJ^ Ac 

" fOI-LY." 

It WM ttbout the year 1700 that Bums l]ocame 
aoquainttid with the " lovoly Polly Stewart" and 
b«r father *• Willie Stewart," who was at that 
time^ •« I have olrondy stated (4"' S. iii, 2S1), 
factor tn tlio Rfv. Janioa Stmirt-Menteth, lUctor 
of Barrowby m LinCidnshire, who had bought the 
Cloaeburo uruptrly from the old histoiical family 
t£ tlM KiriEpAtricks in 17^3. I bare made an 
■ttMnpt to trace the history of Polly and her 
Iktber, and it may not be without interest to the 
admirers of Uiiriu who know the poems in which 
the bard celebrute« their praisua^ to have a ebort 
•ecouot of thf^ir chequered live*. Mr. William 
Stewart was tbo aon of a notivo of (Jloaebum iu 
Dnmfrifs-Jure, who kept a small cpirit ehop at 
"Cloach"^' '^ "'''-hrig/ but the houae htis \ox\^ 

(i He was seaBion-clerk for 

yizL^ lUe all Scotchmen, was anxious 

to gJve his tiTO sons the best education that his 
and tbo times would allow. The result 
that they all made their way in the world, 
and Tr.30 above their orii-nnal station. AVillinm 
u iu 170O, betfinniug lif« as a packman in 
i, carryin;; drapory goo<U; aud the Urat 
diatuicL notice of him that I have been able to 
recover is an anecdote which brouj^bt him in 
cuntact with the Hev. James Stuart-Mcntetb. I 

believed blm to have been factor to Sir James 
Kirkpatrick, but iu tbia I wua miatdiea* Ilap- 
neningr to call, in the way of his trade, on iu*. 
Mentelb in 1783 at Barrowby, be was asked if 
he knew the Closebum property, which was then 
advertised for sale* Aa it was his nativo panah, 
he was well acquainted with it, and his mtelli- 
gent auawera seem to have so won on Mr. Men- 
teth that he was aaked by him to accompany him 
to Scotland to view the property. The result of 
this viait was, that Closeburn property pa*ied into 
the posseseiou of Mr. Menteth, and >lr. IStowort 
was appointed foclor, Cl«jaebam Hall hod beeu 
destroyed by tiro in I75i, and bad never been 
rebuilt ; *o that there was no proper dwelUag- 
boose on the estate. The old castle^ the keep of 
the Kirkpatrick8, and said to be the oldest in- 
habited house iu Scotland, had been fitted up by 
the Kirkpatriclis oa a temponir}' abode ; and nere 
Mr, Stewart on the removal of the old family 
enscouced himself, to look after th(} property, and 
to watcb the building of the new mansion which 
Mr. Menteth set about erecting. It appears that 
Mr. .Menteth was advanced in years, and left ihe 
management of everything very much to Mr. 
Stewart, who found himself more of tbo laird 
than hie master. When the yoimg laird, how- 
ever, the late Sir Charles Granville Stuart-Men- 
teth, came of ago in 1790, his father fj^ave over 
the management of the property to him, and then 
Mr. Stewart began to iind himself curbed in a way 
to which he had not been occu&tomed. 

It was at tbifi time that Bums seems to have 
been on intimate terms with Mr. Stewart, and 
used to visit him at the caatle, where they were 
accustomed to sit late, and often avq the ann 
above the honzon before the company dispersed. 
\n old man, Robert Anderson (only lately dead), 
wab the boy in attendance on the guests; and he 
aaid that Burns never took more than his head 
eould carry, and that the poet used to assist thoso 
less able to take care of themselves up the narrow 
stairs of the keep ; and after he bad seen them all 
safe in bed, would order Itobert to bring out his 
pony, and set oft' homewards. Poseibly the inter- 
course of Burns and Stewart was made more inti- 
mate from the circumstance that Mrs. Bacon, the 
landlady of Brownbill inn, where Burns wa.^ only 
too often to be found in the evening, was sister 
to Mr. Stewart. She had been married to an old 
man, Mr. Brown, who built the inn on the new 
line of road from I>umfries to Glostfo^ nbout 
1770; and when he died, she married Mr. Bacon, 
a young man who had come down from England 
to look after the wood on Closebum *>state, which 
had been bout.'ht by some jmrlies la Ktijjdnud. 

It appears that Mr. Stewart found that it would 
be more prudent to retire from his oibee of factor, 
and in 171)3 we find him taking the farm of 
Laught, LAUghtmoor, Bankhead, and Blackncst^ 



[4* S. V. !Ji*. 1^ »70. 

ft large tract of uncultivated land io the neigh- 
bouring; parish of Morton, on the Queenaberry 
estate. Here Mr. Stewart remained till 1800, 
when he gave up the farm and retired to Wax- 
welltown on the opposite side of the river Nith 
^om Dunafriea $ dying there in 1812, and being 
bariod in Cloaebum churchyard. In another note 
I shall give the life of his daughter Polly, with 
several unpublished letters, showing that she 
possessed higher qualities and nobler feelings than 
■we would h&ye been led to imagine from what 
Dr. Chambers, in bis I/ife of Bvmit, says of her. 
C&xvrvBn Tait 


1. " [filter the King of the Fairiet at one door with hi$ 
trainCf and the Queen at another with hert,"] 

Ob. Ill met by raoonlight, proud Titania. 
Tit, What I j«ftlou9 Obcron !— Fairy skip honos 
I \xAV9 forsworn hid brd and ocrmpanv." 

(li. 1,1. 61.) 

Falriea ikfp. Thoob. and Cam. — Fairies keep. Har- 
ness. — Fairiet trip, Dycc— See Cam. ed. 

^Wbile making an antipodealforest-joumev, with 
the Midsummtr-Kight s Dream to beguile my 
weariness, I thus defended to myself the older 
reading. The old stage direction sufficiently 
proves that these lilliputian potentates moved 
about in imitation of human mortals' state, such 
state as might have been seen when great Queen 
Bess moved abroad. In a time of ceremony and 
state-like observances, the king and queen of 
fairy-land would observe a like, but an antic and 
mirthful, exlravogance of state. "We have an 
example of such state in Ben Jonson's masque of 
Obcron : — 

" At tlio further end of all, Obcron in a chariot, which 
to a loud triutnphant mtuic began to move forward .... 
wi either side guardcil by three sylvans, with one going in 

Only the sylvane with some quaintness kept a 
greater solemnity than did Shakespeare's trains, 
because Oberon was much be-praised and was 
rcpresonted by Prince Henry. In Shakespeare's 
dream of elves the movements would be brisk 
and gambolling, perhaps made even to dance 
music; «omo would guard their lord or lady, as 
gentlemen-pensioners guarded Eliza ; and before 
all would be an usher, or it may bo officer of the 
guard or other official, personated perhaps by the 
infant Taglioni of the troupe, whose movements 
•would be as agile and sportive as the stop and 
bearing of the starched queen's officer were solemn 
and dignified. Hence the majestic command — 
" Fairy skip hence "j the others moving with the 
queen's movements. 

But, said my objecting self, I find that, at the 
close of the conference (for her wilful majesty 

obeys her lord when her obedience girea ber the 
chance of reiterating all his injuries), Titanis 
uses the plural and cries "JRairies away," True, 
answered my conservative spirit; but, diaiitgw>, 
the circumstances ore changed. While Hog md 
queen have been parleving and wrangling, the 
attendant coartiers ana maids of honour hara 
been frisking, intermingling, flirting, renewing 
acauaintance, gossipping on the events of their 
enrorced separation, mucli as Biron and his co- 
lords talked and renewed acquaintance while 1^ 
King of Navarre conferred with the Princess of 
France as touchbg acquittances and love-bonds. 
It is her thus scattered train that Titania recaU 
with "Fairies away I" Besides, her majesty is 
in a pet, and will not that one renaain benind or 
be out of her ordered place. 

2, I have also been comparing the old stage 
directions where Bottom is traMfonned (iiLl) 
with the new, and the resulting conclusion is, 
that the modem editions have injured the hiunonr 
and action by unwittingly curttdling the latter, 
and rendering it less natural. The direction for 
the re-entry of Bottom as transformed by Puck is 
omitted in the old editions;, but it is certain that 
at his cue of "tire,"' he comes on with *'U I 
were fair,*' &c. ; and this certainty is (aa often) 
the reason it was omitted. Quince even calls to 
him to enter, therefore no other call was requiied 
by the old actora. Bottom having entered, oui 
moilem books, at the exclamations of Quince and 
his "Fly, masters!" send off the rest, bat keep 
Bottom and Puck on the stage; and Uien, when 
Puck hna left, Snout and Quince successively re- 
enter. But in the folios, " [ TJie churns all ejcemUV 
after Quince's "Fly, masters I" and aher PudE 
has spoken, "I'll follow you," &c, we have the 
direction—" Mtter [frequent for " re-enter"] Pin- 
mus nith the Asse head." That is, at the ay of 
Quince, Bottom runs out with the rest, as why 
should ho notP Panic-struck with the rest, un- 
conscious that he is himself the cause, he hturia 
out with and after them — "it might, God shield 
us^ have been a lion, or other feartul wild fowl" 
Ills odd gestures when frightened, and whils 
endeavouring ta»sce the cause and its whereabonti^ 
alarm his comrades the more ; and his following 
them ensures their dispersion this, that, and ererj 
wav. Moreover, his then appearance of affirig^t 
mal<es his after- assumption ot confidence the mon 
marked and ludicrous : his after-assumption I nj, 
because it is clear that he sings to encounx* 
himself, though he excuses it to himself on the 
plea that it is to show his friends that he is not 
afraid. Bri^slbt XrcHOLSos. 

|rt & V. Jak. i:». TO. 




L ' ' ' ' i^crint of ihu title-pftgo 

r ofWaketield of Iho 
01 1' ■■-' ui the first cbnpter. As 

old £i' -b'-'ok id not described, I 

ia Mi. i iii/.iui :» Sihlioffraphy of Old J&Vy- 
'•uiwCi nnd Mr. Tliuriia wa-( unable to arot 
of it when he »7diud lli';- 170G 8tory inliis 
hrit/ I'rosc Jivmanci'fi in M^'ii, I have thought 
^Ms upprnpriitvly tiad a place in "N, & Q.' 


iWngf llie merry History of George n 

r '. !uMy rimlirof the North. 

t in[r bis manhood dl hu brauu 

ni __ aruongu his Ixwne oonipatuon«. 

A i*Ul flt to purxc melancboly in thin 

dmoping age. 

Rixtti, thcH Jutiff^, 

With the srrMt B«ttel fonght betwixt 

him an<l Au//in HtMti, Scarlet iLiid littlo Johu^ 

and ufler ufliU living; with (bem in 

»he ^Voc)ls. 

Fall of pretiv Hi-'t<triw(, Songs, Otche*, 

iuU and RidtlltM, 

Loo don 

ttnl \tf (j. r. fcr E. BtacianuMre, 6vrc\\ine In /'oti/f 
Chuirbyordo at the itigno of the An^U, IGIi'J. 

Itwi from tbirt First Chapter that tbia 

fftn t.: .inct compoaitiou from the utory 

>U«heU in li<^. 

thff birth and Parentage of (Seorge a Greene, ftnd the 
flrvt beginning of hi» brave expto}*t9. 
dnvte care had oar ancient fathen in former ages, to 
■ '■* orderv, Uwes & coittomes, for the preren- 
tiKftrd and other abusAi, which mnn might 
And to it i% coatinued In ihuM our later 
Xiid brought more to pfrfKlion and maturity, sj 
in diecaveth and in unmasked, and trntb 16 ulua- 
tk yerealed. 

Aim( Io ffive yon a liKht of ftome of these for a ta^te of 
It, Yordeshire hn'l mnny privilcdges, aa the towne of 
lire, a pUce of ^reat cloathiiig, 
1 much subject to robberies and 
:lie mon) in respect that vhen 
looy w.^ , they could not pet any man to 

IT the '«it- n, though the King bad piven 

1';. to oca Martiall law. A fryer 

^^ ■ ' •■ that was very iiigeniouA,'be 

.. -^ h bv the pulUnK out of a pin, 

and !o cat od* tbc nocke, this device kept 

awe a {^eat while, till nt the lout thi<« Fr^-er had 

a nolorinu^ fact, and fur the Mme was tlw 

ttkit haD««lcd itii} new Engin bia owne inirention : 

i have beard truly related, tboogh not pertinent 

J yet I will here recite, in the lie of Silly, 

•b file boUowimm of the Ito^^kc^ which with 

lovioff into the same, it made ancJi a huge 

><?» tiut tl Bii^t easily be lieard a leagna off, tnso- 

iftiifc Ui*t it w«.< '■■IJwI the Gulfe by sea men, and 

: ' xi safeiruard /or aea men, both 

ti ■ -t avoid the dasf^eroos rocks ; 

'wuii: i_iuiii lucic 'Ittdt a fitborman, that, thinking 

■ayaa thereof waa • bindranve unto hia trade and 

I drnvc away the lisb, nt aevorall limea carried !u hi* boat 
< 8tonl•^ ttuit flt l»<t hoe *it'^f.p«I it up quite. Kiit roarke 
j the chance lh;i: ' ' ' . i this tbiutnuaii, being 

abroHd in hiit ' n with a stonnt- in the 

nl;;lit, ami dti. ;- .ind fro, nut kniiwing 

I where hce was till at the iencrb it fonunod tbiit he woa 
I eaiti. awny upon the »ame plarv; and sti, aecjnlinF; to 
I the old I'ri.verb, hv di^ttwl a pit for otUors, and was the 
1 fint thfil U:li into lUv hhiih*. 

I But to rotunic to oiir lii^itory : by rcown of the many 
dajnagea done by one nid.n'.i caticll or other, in breaking 
out of their i*wn grounds into other menu «ime and jaw- 
turc, the Pownd waa tirst inventol to put cattle in that 
had trcapasl, untill reetitutiou was made according to 
the fact committed. WakcbeUI, amoiigut the refit, waa 
famous in respect of a lusty proper »(out fulluw that had 
the keeping of tha mid I'owad, oaUe<l bv the name of 
George Greene, the atout Finder of \V»[icf^, of whoae 
tterryraenta & Tollantneas the history enduing deolareth. 
He oamo of honest paceutage, hi^ lather a huabnndmaa, 
hia very childhood foretold bis happy fortooas to suc- 
— ^' after, in bis riper ycctus, he became the Captaine 


of all the boyes in the towne of Wake6eM, A- all hia 
little Souldiera wore in Uicir buta a Apri^ of grcene bay 
for their Capiaines colours, whom they called by tlte 
name of (icorge a Greene ; and aa hegrew further in yeerci^ 
so mure Jt more ^rew ht; mngnaniinout, dayly a.wrcising 
himBcir with playinf^ at Cudgels, and using all manner 
of wcapoii9, oA aI»o c.'ccrci.ting himwlfc at ruunlni;, leap- 
ing, wrtifttUiig^, nnf;i[ii,'. Hhooltng, A still he bore the bell 
away ; and aa he was cDuragiotu, so alM was he cour- 
teous and gctiile, and much given to luirtb, ineiomuch 
that he bad the love of all both old tk voung, that happy 
were they that were aiv]iiaint(^ with iiimt and all Fng- 
land AouiiUuit forth tli<! praise of George a Greene, the 
mad mcrrv Pinder of Wakefield : there was no pastime. 
Wakes, King^ale, dancing, weddingf running at qdin- 
tainct or any other exercise, as the may-pole, bringing In 
of the Cuckoo, but it waa aJI not wortJi a fiddlr^itioUe if 
George a Greene bad not a bond in it, especially uhca 
any poorc man was wronged, stiU honest George was 
ready for to right hti^ caase. 

.\inongBt all the oruc of George bis mad oompanicns, 
he selected haUb a dozen of lusty fcllowes for to oceem- 
pany him in all his pastimes and merriments, which 
wero as officers under him ; and these were they — Tom 
the Taberetj bee wa» made Drummer; Ciitlibcrt the 
Cobler, face was made Lieftenant i and Stilch tbo Tavlor 
bore tlie color*; and Tubit the Ticsher, Miles the Mil- 
ler, Smug the Smith, Serjeants. George having got hia 
cruo about him to my boat Bonkea his houAe, there 
where good lif^uor grew and was •told bv the pownd, for 
that WHS sppomted for their meeting pface, and having 
whelted their wits with a little usppy ale, George a Greene- 
began to make this oration following to hia Souldien ; — 
" Loving friends and Cotintreymeti, my trno and lusty 
booae companions, seeing it biitb pleaded you oat of your 
loves and g<x>d wills tlint you beare me to chuM ma for 
youre Captaine & oommandcr, you shall dndc me ever 
ready at all times to llie utmost of my power in all 
boucst attempts ready A diligent; now on the other sid* 
I most reqtieat yoa also, according to your places you are 
now ohoaeo in, to be careftd therein, and chiefely to 
obaerve these following orders: First, if the lye be given 
by any, not to put it up, but to have a bout with them 
at Cudgel", which if ihey rcfusod. then to loy dowoo 
thdr twelve pence, to be keptc in banke to he fpetit at 
their next meeting. Secondly, any th*t made patbea 
over the come, or broke downe hedges, when they bad 
the fairA roade way to go in, to force them to have a 
bout at Quarter-stalfe, else hty downs twelve pence. 
Thirdly, any man, foote or hone, that went through tb« 



[4* a V. /as. 15, •m 

towne ufWAkeAeld with a long staSe on his necke, to 
mak« them travle it after them, or else to bare a bout at 
Swo^ & Backier^or else to lav down their twelre pence. 
Foorthlj, to take part vith the wronged aide allwaies. 
Fifthly, in all attempts to be still readj to helpe one 
another if they shoold chance to be overmatched. Sixtly, 
they should never drinke small drinke to make their 
gabs lowsie, so loag as tbej might have good strong 
liquor for their money. Seventhly, if it chanced that 
they should a fox, or l>e dmnke, to'goe quietly away and 
not to move any discontented quarral. Eighthly, every 
nnnday morning to meete at my hoste Bankes his house If 
tbc^ were in gw>d health, and every one to spend his 
balfe dozen ; and I for my part," quoth George, ** will 
Bptad my dozen. To these things you nhall all sweare 
<HL a Primer, and I my selfe will Aoe the like, and as yon 
Bke the onjers shew it by your consent thereto." With 
that tbe^' all with one accord did ffhoute, and crycd 
** Agreed, agreed, noble Captaine, thou hbalt be our 
no(md Saint George for England"; and thus, each one 
having spent his allowance, they all departed about 
their aflfaircs. George bee went about providing of 
weapons for the due keeping of their orderti, the keeping 
of the weapons was to be ddivercd according as they had 
skill to use them, and George he would bee the last man 
tiuit should stand at stake to answer for thorn all ; and 
the orders, George sent for a Painter presently, and had 
them painted presently at each end of the towue bravely. 

The transcript waa made about forty years ago, 
Trith the permifision of the then owner^ who, if I 
recollect rightly, was ^Ir. Inglis; but the book 
was at that time in the poatfesfllon of that most 
worthy and accompliahed bookseller, Thomas 
Eodd. T. P. 0. 


The note which follows was written by the late 
marquis de Laborde in 1863, when Conserrateur 
des collections du Moyen age etc. au Mus^e du 
Louvre. It is tranacribed from an elaborate glos- 
sary which he composed in illustration of a por- 
tion of the objects committed to his care ; and as 
the terms U Moyen dy9 and la Iteiiaisisance are 
frequently met with, it may interest many readers, 


Barnes, S.W. 

** MoTKN AoE. — L*expre8sion s'est form^ d'elle-m^me, 
die est accept^ elle est bonne, £n Tann^ 600 de notre 
^re, la d^adeuce de Rome ^tait complete, sa tyrannique 
influence laiauit d^rmaia aux langucs, aux arts ct aux 
mceurs des difii^reutj) peoples leur impulsion native et 
lean ollurea propree. L'antiquitt^ de ce moment, ab- 
dique, elle a fait sou temps ; le raoyen &ge commence. 
Ott« date est discutable, car il est <<vident que les 
penplesde TEurope n'ont pas march^ du meme pas; mais 
le vi" sifecle pent devenir facilemeiit le rendez-vous gtfn^ 
ral, si un esprit de conciliatiou preside & cette discussion. 
H en sera de mume pour fixer IVpoque de la cloture du 
moyen a^c. Le milieu du xv* siecle re'pond a&iez bien & 
la Bumnolfnce g^u<frale du gothique, k I'^puisement com- 

flet des idee?, de Tart, et des traditions du moyen age. 
ci encore, Tltalie, les Klatidrcs et la France pourroient 
r^dami-r, ccmme ayant deja donn^,ciiiquante ann^ plus 
t&t le signal de ce grand r^veil nomm^ la Kenaissance ; | 
nais d'uutres peuples, qui comptent dans I'hiiitoire des | 
ajts, n'entrercnt dans le mouvcment qu'jn la fin du xv* 
BiMe, et se trouveraient trop^oigne's du point de depart, 

tandis que tons ponrront se raltacher, oencz-ci par des 
I aspirations, ceux-la par des che6>^*(BaTre, k la dale ue 
I 1450 qui marquera les debuts de la renalaBance. 
' ** De Labobbc.** 

Rank is Lit£batube.— Id the second number 
of the new periodical, The Academy, p. 31, Ifa. 

Matthew Arnold says : — 

** Exoellent work in a iow«r kind counts in tbelsag 
run above work which is short of excellence in a higbo? 

This has given riee to some discussion in the 
papers, and, as far as I have read, the opinion is 
treated as original ; but I find the same yiew pro- 
posed, in essence, in William IIax1itt*8 Zedvreg m 
the English Poc*«— viz. Bell ft DaldT*8 «d. 1860, 

" The artificial stvlc" (Dryden'a and Pope's) « is gene- 
rally and very justly acknowledged to be inferior to the 
other"— the style of Chancer, Spenser, Shak^ware^ and 
Milton, called by Hazlitt the natural style — ''yetlhuse 
who stand at the head of that class ought, perhaps, t« 
rank higher than those who occupy an inferKn* place in a 
superior claas." 

" Young, for instance, Oray or Akenside only fuUow in 
the train of Milton and Shakspeare : Pope and Onrdea 
walk by their Kido, though of au unequal statnre, an^ are 
entitled to a first place in the lists of fame.'' 

J. w. w. 


Keble's "WnrTEtt Thrusil'' — huLyruApo- 
atoliea is a poem by Keble, which ia entitled " Tbi 

Winter Thrush." In the postbomons coUectiaa 
termed Mitcdlaneoita Pocnu by the Kev. J, KeUe 
(Parker, Oxford and Ixmdou, 18(^), it is repub- 
lished with the following heading, <* To a Thrush 
I singing in the Middle of a Village, JaBauTi 
j 1833." 

The poem contains this stanza: — 
" As linnet soft, and clear as lark. 
Well hast thou ta'cn thy part. 
Where many an ear thy notes may leach, 
A2ul here and there a heart** 

If this stanza was meant to conform with the rttt 
of the poem (and who can doubt it ?), Uie third 
line should end with a word rhyming vitk 

accordingly, for "reach" I would n*l 
'•mark." The word " reach " may be, I think,* 
relic inadvertently left by the poet in the "copy" 
of the former version of the stanza; which vcmoD 
wad rejected by the poet, and in which the word 
"speech'' closed, as it well might, the first line. 
No doubt the mistake wonld not have reappawl 
had the poem been republished by Keble hiiii&'. 
I JouN 

I Combe A'icarage, near Woodstock. 

A RoBix IIooD WrNB. — In Lancashire iMs 
name is given to n -wind that blows during the 
thawinpr of the snow. The reason alleged is. thst 
Kobin Hood said that he could stand any waA 
exfjept a thaw in'/tff. Th"#e who hnye experieircrf 

4»8.V. Jati.13,70.] 



ft soath-weat wiad blowing over the liftlf-mohed 
niow, mid penetrating, as the French baVi J'*s- 
gw'oiijr OS, will, I «m sure, agree with this senti- 
ment of the renowned freebooter's, 


Books pimLiflinu) bt SrascRiPTioK. — I think 
there is a source of some out-of-the-way kind of 
Information such na is only found in thfi hetero- 
ffeneous pugaa of " N. & Q." whirb hfts been 
hitherto neglected. I monn the list^ of sub- 
■cribera appended to book a. For example, t find 
in Crutt well's Wcrrks of Bishop 7f^»/wM— a tine 
epecimrn, by the wny, of provinciol ^pngraphy — 
ft list of fiubecribers containing the followinjc : — 
"Rer. Thos. Wilson, D.D., son of the Bishop, 
one hundred copies, intended for the foreign 
Uoiversities and Libraries," "The Empress of 
RoGmji.*' Who was she, and bow came 8ne to be 
■ sabecriber to the works of nn English dirine ? 
Then there is " A Roman CnthoUck," " Rev. Mr. 

>hn Wesley,** and other notabilitios of the time. 


IT3»mMiTT IX London, 1C47. — ' 

MoUref ^rouoded upon the Word of God. and npon 
Honour, Protit, and Pleasure, for tlie present Founding an 
Coiwrnty in the Uetropoliji [.oxdo:« : With Answers 
"^ inch ObjwtioM as might bo made by any (in their 
itancr) againat the ume. Humbly Preaented (in 
vf Hratbcztiab and Supvrvtitiou* New-jvares Gifts) 
i:U:bt Honourable the Lord Major, the Kii;bt 
-rull the Aldermen hi.i Brethren, and to those 
ifli ■ I'rudont Cilizni'* which were Intclv choMn 

i|fc iiy to t»e of the Comnion Counwll tbereof 

fcr insucfiff, rlr. 1047. IJy a true Lover of 

hM .NmIicu. Aud upcci'aJly of the said City. Printad at 
London, 10-17." 

Such isthetitleof ft8niallpftmphlet(4to, 14pp.) 
•ettini,' forth the benetit to be derived not only 
by the metropolis, but by the whole of England, 
from thn cstabli'-hinent of a university in London. 
The author's main object seems to have been to 
obtain a greater supply of ** Ministers of the Gos- 
" than the exiaung universities of Cambridge 
Oxford afforded. It is, however, interesting 

know that the project, which has in our own 
time licen bo successfully carried out, was in any 
way anticipated nearly two hundred years ago. 




to enclose a query and u note from my 

1 Yule, C.B., now at Palermo. 

i-'Ct to the closing senteooe, I have to 

htate liiat Major Yule's copy of the Four Gospels 

\ft Arabic, which I find was printed at Rome in 

1590, was Dot presented to the British Museum ; 
which, however, does possess a copy of ibo work. 

JL li. Majou. 

Brituh Haseam. 

My query is this : Is anything known of Oeorve 
Strachaa of the Merns — a S<wtchmttn, n Jesuit, 
and an Oriental trftveUor» ien}j}. Joe. I. — besides 
what I am going to quote ? 
My note regardfl this George Strachan also, 
Tho latfi ^ifljor William Yule, who died in 
Edmburgh in 18-'?0, waa a dcvot(^ lover of Per- 
sian and Arabic Utorntiiro, and bad a good cnl- 
lectioD of M8S. lo tlioso languages, as well as 
of printed books relatbg to them. Among the 
lattor was a copy of the Four Gosppls in Arabie 
folio, printed at Rome in the second hnlf of the 
sixteenth centurv', and embellished with a great 
many good woodcuts. At the end of the book 
waa an inscription on ii discoloured patcli : whe- 
ther this discoloration was intentional, or pro» 
duced by the partial decorapowtion of the inlc, I 
know not, but it tended to obaenre the writing. 
Tho inscription began to tho following eifect: 
" Hunc legit librum xx diobus in dosertis Chaldcsd 

Georgiua Strochanus e 8oc. Jcsu M ensis 

Scotus/' — mort' I remember not The date was 
rather early in the seventeenth century. I have 
not seen the book for thirty years ; but as a boy I 
had so often tried to make out tlie whole, that of 
the foregoing substance I am certain. Tho local 
adjective '' M— ^enais" wo never could decipher. 
I have oft^n wished to know more about this 
wandering compatriot. Two or three veara ago. 
on rending for the first time the Travel^i of that 
accomplished gentleman Pietro della Valle, I was 
delighted to come upon my old friend Ooor^ 
Strachan. Della VaUe know him intimately in 
Persia, and speaks of him severul times. The 
greatest amount of detail regarding him is given 
in Letter XTII. of November iO, 102:?, from Com- 
itru! (i, e. Gombroon or Bonder Abbiia), § \<\ ; and 
in the edition published by Ganciu (Brighton, 
1843) is at p. 4.'i7 of vol. iL (I translate) : — 

" The 24lh of Ortober arrived here in Gombroon Mr. 
George Strachan, with whom I hare long been hitininte 
Id Persia, ho having come hither as one of the Kn{;lish 
(mercantile agents) to get ready a house and ground fur 
thein. . . . Tbi« Mr. (Jeorge Strachan i* a native of 
Scotland, from the district of the Moms:* agcntleniaii of 
noble family, hut a younger flOB, and conaeiiucntly but 
alenderly provifh»ii for at home. Hence from tMiyhood he 
waa bruuffht up in France, .ind he studied at Paris to 
good pnrposc. Natnrally endowed with grvat talent, ha 
made great progrcas not only In Latin, Greek, and 
Hi'hrew litcratnre, bntabo In the arionro.*^ and beeama 
thoroughly grouodad in philosophy. th<x>lii^y. law, ma- 
themaUcsi and every kind of curious lesmiof;. Ome to 
man> entata, he bad a desire to bh the world, and with 

* " Mtmiat di patria." 



[4"*S.V. JaslUTO. 

lhii> vi»-w bo ^tmliM vnrinos lanpuflf;?*. Hc» r»a««H! some 
time in I inly. Including K^ifoc, aii<]t I imitfiDp, in QilHir 
parts of (.'hriitcndotn. Uu tbea travelled to the Lcvaitt, 
anii staycMl sonw' linn- in C\m.»t4utinople. . . . From 
C«ii!*tHnliin'i)U' hv wi-iil to S\ri-i, vi-iltccl Mount l.i'bflnrm, 
Qjitl. htTinjr gone to Aleppo in onlor to c^t a khckI kntnv- 
lertj^r*" of Araliio.hethorf liMird tbattbe Kmir Fcin<I, prince 
of the oilfoininy !>«*•«, w«« in wflnt of 5 iloptor. Altliouf^b 
idiii I '■■'.'■ " ' licuic, lit! protonUcd tu be 

tbai - provi'lctl himself with 

)mt ni' >i>k up tbc post of pbv- 

f|]<*l4ti iq tbo prince'i tw-rvice. He rcinnined two yarn in 
tfa* DpKrt wJtb th^ Gmir, and in that Unio b«caaia a 
firBt>rote Arabic flcbolar. and acquired Xha fullcac ttc- 
quaintancc wilb all the mfUt abHruKe conuri of Mabo- 
in6dani»Tu. He bad ttio itoud luck at first stortiaK to 
cnre tbc Emtr nf &iinic trifling romplaiuU, an 1 nv (gained 
hU offoction!*. !!« was jtvaC qa bigh in tbc favour of the 
Kinir'a cliief wifL*. , , , Thev both wanted to kcpp 
him pcrmuin-ully with tbcm. and to this end tried to 
secure bim by bo^^towing' on bim bolh properry and ti 
desirable wif'.'. They wctr nl*i crtnlltmaUr trving to par- 
saad« him to bMome a Mabfimcdan, he rntbi-r 
pmried thcui with pleas fur delay than nb^tjluloly n.'fitwd. 
. . . Willi ihi» behaviour be pfare ocoo-iion io entllo^s 
dtoeuaalonB, hU p.irt in ivlii<;h. tt may be said, wtu n vcrit- 
4§|||^^MCfain:: •' illahc>m«dai)», . . , 'J'bus 

.^IMwI}' '^'i ' iii»e)f as alill nut 9utl!<£t'd, be 

QDBtjiTed to r|ii»i i Ml II ' ' '"■ . ind cvcrj- day vas 
gnining a mor? nnd inori ; N'twiedge of tbf ir 

ayrtem^ tvith the riew of '■ iir this tuowledj^e 

to the advaor^menL of mir own ullK . . , At last, 
vihon tbc Ktnir bcy^an to prc» bim too horl tu submit to 
cireuinL^i«i/>n, Ua dtittrmmcd to dulay li;- *'■ ■ ■•"■'■■ frum 
them no lonj;er. Ajid »<>,taUiii;j a favnu unltA' 

when the camp wa« hi the Tipi;^libonrli. rul, lie 

made bis rj^capp with Kft-at dexterity, iind Jiut a litilo to 
the 4U5lfv«i and jealousy of her wlio conNiili-red berwlt to 
be bis wife. GvtiinfC ^nMy to llio city, be coriliuuod 
tb«rc for wrnc raonllip, dnrin^^ n-hich Ibc Arnlw never 
last the hope that be -wooM oome \Mck to them. lint he 
oltid«d1b(tmatliir;t,atHlpittoPt'j^iaanii l»I.ip»bin whilst 
( was tbon-, nnd when the r,i)uli-.b bad idi-tady u factory 
tboro. Tb- I'^i.'li .'i \ :\ •■ 1.1 . li:ivin^ come to know bim 
AS a ^i.i' iidofpuoh Id^-li talent, 

althouj^b ; ioiJ of Ci»thn(iri-'m, And 

thevfor th- Ml ■>* ;■ ir' ■ i!i"ii\i-'", made hiui niasttvcleoaie 
ill t'btir hon^^f. And k<<pt bim there continually with moat 
lionoarabJe treiilnunt, " ic A-& 

In A nrevimi!* |MRsnp^c (Letter ti. from Ispabnn, 
8rim* vt\. ii. AO) PiutTo meutions thiit StrnchiiB 
had n largG cot]4M*tion of Arabic books; kdU had 
promised to ftpply liimself to the txttnslation of | 
the wlol3rati*d Arjibic tliclioiiftry, the KumiU. 

It ia fiotiibk, and perhaps characteristic, that 
Stiftchans friwid and fellow-CatboHc should to 
nil appearancQ bavo beea iguoraut of tiio fact tliAt 
lie was a Jesuit. 

■X am fiorry ta add^ that I cannot trace what 
has become of tbe T>ook with the inscrintioa in 
Stracban'a writinj^. Mnjor Yttle's MSN, wcro 
preftentod to tbo Brilibli Mustuin Librurj-, but I 
doubt if till* ]M'iQtyd bcfok was auiong; them. I 
ba\* asked luy frieud Mn. Majok tti ftscertjtin 
the'fact, and then t'-> send you this. U, Y, 

Foknuc^ Jaoaaiy J, 1870, 


The rw^ut decease of the Murutng I/.r 
moanopporluiiity of asking' joornumer' 
if thp^'are able to corttib. irate a story : 
tbe orijfia of tbatjournal, which I have h 
an old friend who often related tbo tircum 
Tbe event tnnst havo occnrred »b.-int tbe xui 
1780. At this i>eriod the Min-umfj Aw^ had" at- 
tained jifreat popularity K*n accoont of tbo nnoiber 
of men of talent etigagod on ita ataff; bat ill 
would np]>ear that there Tva-s a want of uaioaat 
hefld-<^ut»rterB, for tbnv was a fetid lunrvigft tiM 
directing" powers which auddenly culiuinal'?!! in 
the 8eces«ion of ono of tbe editon, -wbo ouo dav, 
having gained over to hia side the ma.ster-priDt#r, 
the compositors, and pressmen, st«Tt<*d a uew 
paper— the Moniitit/ }lcrald^ which, after an ex- 
istence of ninety years, has paiJied away in «- 
fttfhwta.<ia, M tlie ynledictory J'^adin^ article ia 
the luit number described tbe 'manner of the j-iur^ 
nal's decease. Kvcu at the present dav, when 
compD«jtor8 have increased at l.>a5t a fiundrwl- 
fold, nnd when tbe nbundajice of literary talent iB 
aided by the powers of tbeprinting-nmchiiiM and 

ptenm^ ifc wonld be next to iirp->as 


^ of 


come such a difliciilty ns tbo 

the Mornintf Pout anil his de 

themselves in. At the p*?riod la .' 

it was ntterly oirt of the (iuestion. n 

made no aign on the day following thi.4 

mniih There is, in fact,' a bintuK,a soltrtion of 

contiDiioaity, n hl«mk of one dftyin V * . ;r» 

of the paper. However, by the*ex> at 

energT; a etnfi' was got together, and tin,' vhtujI 

rofippeared r>n the spcond day. This anecdote, 

about the autht'nticity of which I h-^^r^ r- . -r!< 

will of course remove an opinion pi !,« 

etRjct that the Mornitij/ KtraUl w -'i-^x 

joumnl; beaides which, we havo i up 

of fi^iu*es : for whereas tluj M<., , , ,;. 

on Saturday, December 3J, 1801^ tbe cIj. 

death, bore the number 'jr.fioO. tl- ni. 

tlie Mot'fttttff Put! ou that day 

to the latter journal a f«^mioriiv 

at the rate of nix numlwrs \w: w. i'. 

eight yeari. The Mointny Poet ia il. .t 

morning jovirnal in Loudon, and \a i 

ove of JtA centenaiT?, the date of it 

1 772. The next jinirual in SHniority ie i Ac U 

which waa csfeibbj^hed in 17'^. : * ^ Ax/ii 

J ii 

ArfiTT!\T.iA\ Law L'nruT-;. — I 
worlc published orarcejwiblein ] 
full infurmation n^ to the nilea 
in Auirtralitm law-coiu't^, o.'ipecinlh' 
Some book, that is to Bay, winch v 
cleiu notion of whrtt i* n'-'ct^-Siiry t,> 
to the bar tlioxe ? Whether th'.^re Are, 

8. V, Ji!t. IS, T'M 



(tutinct brandies of tli© leRal profewion — 

- ' -' -**— ■ ' ■" A w'ord, cor- 

■d'9 CWi- 

..,, - in nnr '"'\vi' 

i;. r I,. 

—The iii^uiiuT "Wt-'nW Uj ihaiiik- 
it:^ to labii!a(ed f<r<juiH ul" worda: — 
-tni ditlirout iiteuu'mga at dit- 
Atlantic. 2. L'ifxl ia iVaieiica 
iiti i.niiouly employed here. 

Tl»e ti : of liiia intiniry uon- 

ctma uii'iii.^;!' Mill c«iiiiui*^jroo, tinnnuef aud tJio 
cittttua uf merebauU. J. A. F, 

Af.'ts OS X l.ATiy Bible. — I Imvo lately ptir- 

cliu- ■'! ,1 rop^- of thnt nohle impression of the 

itnca folio; nnd I bdi de- 

tv<.r lUt! name of its former portSOMor, 

ing fttrc it owes ita j)rcsent ^wliiob 

;. be ita originul) binding, liotn fcide« 

lilt* bear a wat of aruia^ which may 

'. II. The ftUield b«ars, a chevron 

oht'S of grapes; the supporters 

.'J8. The arms are surmounted 

ostd of foiir strawberry luave^, 

u ui which ore two pttatU. On the 

1 Tolumo; above the letteriug-plate^ ia 

tli^ ^....-^' badge orcre«t: Two ^woraa crossed 

ia nllire, tbe points upwards; over which ia 

•art" rinipoeed a lion's face. I am but a poor 

4M thia blazon will no doubt show to nny 

"1 eye. I should think, from the general 

■fpKmraac« of tho bindin^^ and from tho coat of 

Jt»elf, that it Is of foreign origin. 

W. ypARRow SnrpaoN. 

I09B1FHT. — I shall be much obliged to any 
MT reader* who can give me, or tell me where 
fiaii, particulaw of the oncestr)* of — 
CkviM Wilraot, created Viacount Wilmot 


-elland of Painsford, in DeTonshire, 
;it eoooty in lC60j who diijd June 0, 

nomm Of William Sheldon of Iloby, co. 
iRt. wboce daughter Elizabeth married, 
;€nimU>ph«r VUliew, Earl of .\nglesey, 
[■tBODdty Bwijamin We*tou, Esq. 
■* Sivilf* of Haaelden Iloll, co. York, 

'h (co-heir to her nepbew) 
5 Wentworth of Aahby 

f Capel ITanbury of 
V -. ■»( 'j^.a.'jr, who (Ued in 1701. 
Epmcsb M. Botlb. 

^» W5 10 A^CTEfT nKATflEXDOM. 

JJJ^i 1 ■■^■. &Q." into theoH'v, I 

^^^^ W r.U b4> verv curious lo see 

answered fully, this query ; Ho^r far were the 
Old Testament Scriptures liiiown to the old 
hoathou world before the advent of Cbrif^tianlty ? 

Tri otJM'r ^'op!-^ '^•- * *- i^'i •'!■''- ^I -'lito plum: 
W li ,t . u i. I, to whicb 

i.'u- csi-ti u,f iij. ■- ■-i... 1, .:.... vicro fami-. 

liar to any other nations beside.'* tlic Jow.-*, prior ta 
the public prenchmg of our Lord? The question 
id suggofiU^d by a voiy uitcreJiLinij: book, recently 
' publittheit. ciill':tl •Sfcl-crs, v^c, «/V-e/* Goil, by Mr. 
Farrar. K. C. I.. 

''A Nfctv Uijon. <tb 6iii^Lina," — I Uavu tUu r^iu- 
nant of — 

** A New Book of Shields [blank, undated J. lnr«ntM 
and driiwn hv A. Hecknll. Nitwn iav*. TleiiHrick 
•culp. I'rintcu und ^uld by F. Vivftrw." 

I ahould like to know if this u old ? 


Topt'LAB Naurs of Caxukdr-ma — I should 
be very glad to collect tlie old, popular, local do- 
aigtiation-* of our Kngli^h and VVeish cathedrals 
l>efore they are lost. The frdlowinjiC ani nil I at 
present Itnow for certain :— York, the Minster; 
LincolD, ibid, ; Tlipon, ibid ; Durham, the Ablwy ; 
London, St Paul's; Kxetor, St. Peter's; AUti- 
cheoter, the Old Church ; Oxford, Uhriat Church. 
The Scotch and Irifh cathedral might have the 
same good service rendered to them. J. T. F. 

XheCollogu, llurilpicrpuidt. 

Old CaEST.— I have an old chest to which I 
am desirona of assigning a dale. On the front are 
carved the nrma of England : 1 and 4 England^ 
2 and 3 France, with a lion on the dext«r, and a 
dragon on the minister as supporters ; over tho 
shield are the letters R. m. d. .\ beost, apparently 
intended for an beraldic tiger, and a pelican 
vulning herself, are also carved on the front. Tho 
lion and dragon were the royal supporters from 
Henry ML to Elizabeth; thus tho aate must bo 
in one of those reigns. I at tirst thought the 
lettere meant Maria Regina Uritmmitr, but her 
style was Itcgiim AngUfpj »o that I fear this ex- 
planation will not do. How then am I to read 
them ? Q. W. M. 

Cooke Family. — The manor of Kedmarlcy 
Oliver, within tho parish of Great AVitley, Wor- 
cestershire, was purchased from the Russella of 
Strensham, by Tliomas Cooke of Claines, in 1015. 
It descended to his son and grandson, *Sir Thomas 
Cooke of the Inner Temple, and Sir Thomas 
Cooke of Lincoln's Inn, which latter person sold 
the manor in IfiT.'J to Thomas Foley, ancestor of 
tho noble family bearing that name. Is aoythin^ 
known of Uie9e two Sir Thomas Cookes, and why 
were they knighted ? 

TnoJCAB E. WnnrnroTox. 

Family HiSTORr.— Can any reader of "X^&j 
tell me when ?^imgnn Caxmon« Mercl 



[4*S.V. Jab,15,70. 

of London, died P He was alive in 1675. Any 
information of the Cannon family will be accept- 
able ; aUo of William Farmenr of Thavies Inn, 
who died after 1675; also of 'William Parkei, 
baker, alive in 1650, aged then about thirty to 
fifty. Address, Miss f I. A. Baikbexdoe, 24, Russell 
Boad, Kensington. 

FoLKT FAMiLr.— Edward Kingston Foley, pro- 
Ijably bom about the year 1777, was a lieutenant 
in the Royal Navy. Whose sou was he ? I fancy 
he was nearly related to Captain or Admiral 
Thomas Foley, and if so, would be a connection 
of the Barons Foley of Whitley Court; but I 
cannot find his came in my copy of Burke's 
Peerage, T. HroHES, F.S.A. 


U. FoBBES. — Wanted, any information regard- 
ing Mr. n. Forbes, an English composer, who 
wrote the music oiJRMth, an oratorio, in 1857 f Is 
he also author of the libretto P R. Inqlis. 

Madame de Gkigkak, Battohter op Madaue 
SX SfeTiG5£. — Wanted, the following particulars 
Oonceming this lady: — Christian name, dates of 
birth, marriage, and death. She had two daiu:h- 
ters: Marie Blanche, a nun, aad Pauline, Mar- 
chioness de Simiane — the dates of their deaths 
are also desired. Were there any more than 
these two ? Hebxehttbude. 

Heraldic. — Will any of your readers kindly 
say by whom and when these arms were borne — 
Tiz. Azure gutt^ d'eau, a chief nebuUd argent. 
Crest, out of two petit clouds iu fesse, a rainbow, 
all proper. J. 

Jony Langston op Spixtlefields. — I have 

i'ost received a small book, the title of which is as 
bllows : — 

** Lusua Poeticua Latin o-Anglicanus in osQin ScUo- 
laram ; or, The more Emineat savioga of the Latin PueU 
collected ; and for the serrice of Youth in that ancient 
exercise commonly called Capping of veraea alphabetically 
digested { and for the greater benefit of young beginners 
in the Latin Tongue rendred into EnglLib. Ity John 
Irangitton, Teacher of a Private Grammar School near 
Spittletields, London. Act. Apoat., c. 17, v. 28 [the verse 
printed ia Greek). Horat. de arte Poet. : Omne tuUt 
pnoctum, ^lui miscuit utile dulci. London : Printed for 
Henry Eversden at the Crown in Cornbill, near the 
Stocks Market. 1675."* 

The dedication is " To his worthy and much 
honoured friend Capt John Caine of White Chap- 
pel " ; and in it the author says : — 

" This small work, designed for the use and benefit 
of your sun aud the rest of uiy scholars, I humbly 
present," &c. 

Can you or any of your readera give me a due 
to, or inform me of any piirticulara of, John Lang- 

[* There was a third edition with additions of Z,iuus 
PoeiuugpuhUaUed in 1C8*(. Langston is also the author 
ot JCachiridion PoeHcum^ ficepoeteot Gracm rneduUa ; cum 
vm-ahne Latina, Lond. 167», 0vo.— Ei>.l 

ston, or the situation or character of his school, 
beyond those disclosed by the title-page and dedi- 
cation above set out? S. J. Htax. 

Aktodte Dcke de Iajszxts. — What ate the 
dates of this nobleman's birth, marriage to 
Mademoiselle de L'Orge, and death P The mke 
de Lau2un concerning whom I ask these ques- 
tions is the one so famous in the faistorr of 
Mademoiselle de Montpenuer. He died about 
1723. HxBiDpnBiTSX. 

Music op Poems akd Htjcts bt Db. Nbwius 
Airn Dr. Faber. — Will any correspondent of 
" N. & Q." inform me whether bxxy of those little 
poems of Dr. Newman's, which in his recently 
published volume are called songs, as the ^ Watch- 
man/' the " Pilgrim Queen," and eeyentl otbeo) 
are set to music wiUi accompanimeDt for the 
piano P And if so, by whom, and where they can 
be obtained P Also, who wrote the muoc of the 
following hynms by Dr. Faber P — 

** The Pilgrims of the Nigfat,** arranged by J. Boiriiii$. 

" O Paraiuae," arranged by J. Lanouter, 

** 1 was waadering and weaiy," arranged by St. Sdiot^- 

These three are each published as a moncil 
leaflet, price !«., by F. Htman, London, and W. 
Haley, Leeds; and also the tune for ''O Pua^ 
dise.*'^ No. 817 in the St Alban's tune-book. 


" The Replectob.''— I possess a volume with 
the following title-page : — 

'* The Reflector, repreaenting Unman Affiun as thef 
are ; and m^ be improved. * Velnti in Speculo.* Londoo : 
Printed for T. Longman, in Paternoster Row. v jxxa." 

It has a dedication from the publisher to thd 
author, but the author's name is not given. It 
would seem to jra written after the manner of 
Montaigne. It is an octavo volume of 372 psgea 
Can auy of your readers supply the name of the 
author r From the dedication 1 should sflsaaie 
that the several essays of which it is composed 
had been first published in some periodicsT, siid 
in their collected form presented to the f^^ 
and to the author. T. B. 


St. Axbbosics. — I purchased recently a Gm 
engraving of a bishop, having across his mitn 
" bt. Anibrosius " in large letters. He is holding 
a book, and rcadiug it attentively; but the de- 
scription below is — '* Thomas Bourchier, Arch- 
bishop of Canterbury, d. 1480. (From Aro&dtl 
church)." What id the authority for this latter 
name? T. P.F- 

MS, VoLTiME OF Sebmons, 1089. — I hare « 
small volume of sermons of this date, and wish to 
find out the author's name. The ^ue is not so 
much defective as slight. The author descritNi 
the occasion of them in the following 

4* R V. Ja». 15, 70.] 



ftttd the place of tboir delivery U veiled under 
the lAttora prefixed to it : — 


* IWnp the !** 5Pnnnn thon» pp?aelit. after tlie death 

of my deaK ehildo M" KUi. 1v»imi.Is who departed This 

Lifv tv a bli^M immnrt.iltty, 1 hi )J' uf July. 1U89, sotne- 

i«t post devtu at nU;l)'t. bcin^ SAtturd«y, kiviog 

lind her 2 trbUdrea. W"* & Elizali." 

WM preaobf^ in tbe year nfter our grcnt 
Revolution, to which the only reference 
I can find is in tlieae words : — 

Stibrait to thi^ holy God : ind obaerre y* Ende b« 
M at. TIiB Eodo Id y* Great KcvoIacCn we ahooid 
and ol>«errc. 

Far y» Great AbuM of pence * nonty wc once in- 
■cd. We liflvc had nil y* Mjiritujil Knjoymrnt*, but not 
up til ibem. It should be matter of Unmiliation 

there is some pith in the style and matter 
or two of further extrnct will show : — 



Ite an unseemly fUf;1it to wc a dcprnduit 

ii'linj: anil Tu;c;fin,'; it ap;ainat his Creator, 

tiw •Hppo»M riRht afijflin^t h^av«l it«elf, 

' npon ani tr^-Hphit; orer a dead cre*.~ 

; arc wee so Vj do*, M'hcii wc should 

.„ , .;i tiod mi'I ffvily refer tlicm to biin ! " 

We seem to hear tlio fjood man we<>ping as be 

the orr&«inn of his eermons on submission 

rrillofGod: — 

And now ! um1f<r y* Loan of i Deare RalacOn, I am 

lti*6iod in my miuda thai I un not unraudcrately to 

vc. or to complain, ur mtinnur. 1 ftce >" band of 

wan in it — no care or meane waa wanlins. But so 

■a.*-!! llic wi*« Go<l my childe is de«d, and I ongbt to 

ited. Bnt all that I can doc, eannot subdue my 

moderat my ufTcctioTui. 1 am licav>' and sod* 

Liw to Ix! comiortcti brt^JkuH she u nut.'' 

From certain Mgns in the MS. I conclude that 
Jt waa OAcd to read from in tho pulpit, and not 
l(*d naemoriter. 

•* S.&." at the beginning may bo St. Stephen's, 

Stony Stratford, or South Shore, or Store 

rt, or any oHicr redupHciition of S. Could 

of your readers idtntify the author for me, 

t^c sigiw given ? I find " Wood SL" heading 

of the sermona. Vux. 

^•*^r^TT^ IN Drrrett's I?aro?:etaop.. — Did 

Sit Wftlt'^r him.<»plf write tbe acmnntof hip family 

t.i hn r nnd in this work (cd. 1824, vol. ii. 1250) ? 

The narration is superior to mo?t of the other 

urtik!':- in the book, and although very concise, is 

lore than the dry bones and hare dates 

', usually haltincr every now and then 

some pergonal details of peneral interest. 

.IF"? two or three stran^^u expressions — 

"IT Walter) married his /»rrj(7iMady," &c, 

(the nephew) ** preiieutfi/ cadet in the 

ice of the Hon. Enst India Company.' 

i and very interesting' account of the 

m.'^ht be made almost entirely of quota- 

i jBQ the varioiu works of Sir Waller, by 

merely arranging them — a task wliich I nnce cona- 
meuccd. It. y. Khus, 


Smith Families, Scottjikd. — Are there any 
male descendants living of the following persons 
who received ^^ants of iimis from the Lord Lyon 
of Scotland previous to the yenr 17001'* — 

1. William Smith, merchant iu Edinburfrh, aon 
to the deceased Mr. James Smith, minister of 
Eddlostone, l^eebleashire. He married JeanTodrig, 
and had one son, Jamea (bora 1080), and three 

2. James Smith of AVhitehill, in Invei 
overseer «f his Majesty's Works in Scotlaud. H*' 
married Janet, daughter of Kobert Mylne of Bal- 
fiirg, hereditary King's Master Motion, and left 
two sons, fiilbert and Clematirick (P). 

3. Mr. John Smyth. This geutleman will be 
more easily ideniitied by his coat of arms than byi 
his name. The coat wss — " Ar^nt a wiltire bft»* 
tween three crescents in chitf and fess, and one 
dolphin hauriaut in base axur." Crest: *'a sword 
and pen saliireways." Motto : "Marts et Ingcnio." 

Qu. Wna this Mr. John A son of Sir John 
Smyth of (trothill, Lord Provost of EdinburjfhP 

4. John Smith, portioner of Dirleton. Ileheved' 
to have drod unmarried. H\9 only brother JamM 
left an only daughter and heiress, I^illia*. 

F. M. S. 

SwnfDBx's "HifiTOBr op Gkeat YjiaMouTa." 
Tves, the antif^uary, monlions iu one of his let- 
ters his interleaveil copy of Swiudim'a UiHttry of 
Gront VdrmmttJi, Can any one inform me wherft 
this copy now is? C. J, Palm KB, 

Great Vormouth. 

Warwicksuibe LEeEVM. — In the introduc- 
tion to n book of legends I have bueu reading 
lately, there is mention made of two old War- 
wick-Hhire stories : one of the '* One-handed 
RoughtoD," who drives about in his coach-and- 
ei-x. and makes the benighted traveller open gates 
for him ; also of " Lr.dy Shipwith," who seems in 
the habit of doing the same thing. I should bo 
glad to know the origin of these tales, I hava 
paid fifiveral hmg visits at on old Warwickshire 
manor-houf^ reported to be haunted by a .Madame 
Mnlins. Was she an nnceata'as of the present Sir 
U. Midins, who, I have hoard, comes of a War- 
wickshire family? E. E. R. 

<3utvici toit^ ^ii^crtf. 

CocifKii'a " .AiiiTHsirTir " — V\T)cn I was a lad, 
some forty yearn ago, I used to hear the saying 
" nccnrdin;: to Cocker." I f*hould like in ask 
whether the saying is to be found in sny author, 
and at what date? 1 have a copy of hi« AtntA' 
7;ie/i'r, with portrait, second impression, 1G70. Is 
there a known copy of the first? I have also a 


NOTES AjVD queries. 

[4*^8. V. Jam. 16, 70. 

cop)- of Uic iweiitv-u'mtli ediuon^ 1711. I believe 
tberu is no copy in Iha Britiiiii Mutwuni, and Dr. 
Dibdin b&y» the thirty -second edition U the enrlie^t 
be hfts seen. My copy of tbe twenty-ninth edi- 
tion baa the booTc-plato of '* Milea Branthwayt" 
with the autograph of "Arthur Branthwayt."' 

[EdvArA CotktT (born in 1C3S) ia (leau-recUr reckoned 
nmoiig iho improren of tbo urt of trntin^ and aritb- 
metio ; and tlieru arc nt h-A^i tourtcesi or lifltcn of his 
co|i}--bDokB in print, for lie kr]>t wdtinff and printing 
till tlie timo of hia dunth, which occurred about 1076} 
oceaoiotred apparently byovcr-driaking, if vre may bdiove 
an ateginc broadside among' Ua^ford'i papers, ptibUsbed 
on bia death, entitled ** Cocker'n Farewell to Brandy, 
l(i7<7." Here arc the condading^ lines of this un;c;rftciou5 
•' Elegy'* to lib mcmoiy : — 

"Here lyes one (kad, by Bnudy'g mighty power, 
Who the tait quortor pf the last-doKu lu>ur, 
Ai to hi.t hcallh and strength, yvm »gund and well ; 
Rcpentnncu hnd no room, and who can tell 
Whether his soul be gone tu heaven or hell ? " 

Halton kamtid from the Mxton of the chnrcfaof St. 
Georg(> Souilmark. that Cocker was buried in the pas- 
sage at Ibo west tiid of thai church near the school, and 
ho calk hJRi '* Iho faiaou« Mr. Kdwurd Cockex, a person 
wall skilled in all lh£ parts of AriUiinetic. u appcam by 
hh) books, and the late ingenious Mr. John Collin?, 
his tutimnny of one of them. Uo was also the most 
eminent ("omposcr and engravtsr of lctt(», knotc, and 
floariehe4 in hb tiino,"* — jymt llcuj vf Londcmt i. 247.* 

As an nrltbmetical ooEmomen, Cocker prubably datcA 
from Arthur Bfnrpby's farce of 71\9 Apprrntiee., 1756, in 
which tho old m«robant stronely rvoemmtn'Li to the 
yonng trfltxedian, Ms son. Cooker's ^nV/im«ei'c in prefer- 
ence to the plays of th« ilanl vf Avon :— 

•* You read 8hakspearo ! get Cocker's Arithm^e : you 
may boy U for a shilling npon a stall, tbc best book that 
ever was wrote." (Act J. .Sc. 1 .) 

We Uavu Iteard uf fuur copies uf tlie first cditioD of 
C^Wkot^s Ariduneticj pritittd br Thomas Passinger, on 
London Ilridge, 1678: one in a ch-aranoe salv of Ur< 
HaUiwelt'fl biiok>i- annlhcr in the libmrj' of the Koman 
Catholio CrtlUye at Oicott; a third sold by Puttiok & 
Simpson in April, 1851, for 6/. in». ; and o fourth in Uie 
DriLI»lt MuH-nm, purchawd July 10, 18^8. .Sodk of these 
copift! may only have ffxchani,'«l hands. Tho flr»t edi- 
tion nfCitckcr's Complmt A ritlimftician, or D^imat Arith- 
mWhr*, was published in 16*59.] 

"SopHiSTA Oevervlisj."— Tbo Oxford .stntuloa 
say tbmt an undergrndiiate who hwi ^Msad his 
reaponeioDs in two full jears Incomes a sopkUUi 
genemlia. Cftn you tell me 'wbai ia ineaat by thia 
dignity? A. E. P. G. 

[A sophist. In theorSgioal sense of the word (trt/>Art», 
wise or If^arited), wm u wise mac, a clever ruan, one 
famed for iiitdloct or tslcnL AiiciuulJy al Oxford all 
MfaoUrs or fresbinen were styled soplusCcrs i but in later 

times the title was bcstoWLsl ou ftecond ot third-year men. 
Tbc duti&i of the general buphiitier ar« thuj given ia 
Laud's S^I/lliM (fhap. iv.), "The Form of creating tbs 
Generals," where it ia enacted " that scholan of tfas 
Faculty of Arts, after tfacy liare completed two ycani IQ 
the university (and not before), may take for liicir mod^ 
rator (if they please) some bachelor or general sophist, 
and so be admitted to oppose and re<»pond fof form's uke 
nt the parvisej ; and that every one of tltcm shall, for 
three terms at the least before they supidicat« for tlrt 
bachelor's degree, undertake the duties of recpoodent ami 
first opponent at these disputations, and be croatod gcMial 

" The form of creating general sophists is to b« as fol- 
lows :— Immediately after the disputations arc over, all 
the schoUri who rnpond on that day for tbu form an 
to meet In the Natural Philosophy .School, where one ol 
the fone regent masters, who are bound to be pteoRftt 
at the disputations (each taking his own daj aeeoidii^ 
to the order of seniority) nnder a penalty often ahiUisf^ 
la to mount the pulpit, and after exhorting the otor 
didat<!<s in a short speech to tbc study of polite litcn- 
tnre, is to recount tbe merits and adrantagn of As 
Aristotelic and genuine dialccciea ; then he ia to dallnr 
Aristotle's Logic into the hands of tho senior 
for creation, who is to stand near the pulpit, and 
re^g:ent master Is afterwards to put ov*?t tbc 
neck a simple hood, thit has no woollen lining tier fff 
border. Afterwards he is to creste the others in tilt 
Bomo way, who are to come up in tlie order of M-nnrilr. 
Tbe general sophista are bonnd, every term a/terwarii 
until they are promoted to (he bachelor' 
pute once ot least in the parvises, under ; 
piitfltlon which they have prerlouily liei«i vn. avi 
them for the fbrm." 


v.iLRT.'' — Where U a po^tu by ThomiM Hood 

calbd a "Lament for the Days of Chivalry," to 
bo found, for I hove for a long time befrn lookioff 
for it in vain ? It was published originally. I 
believe, iu an aiinufll called T/ic liijou more thsft 
thirtv years n^o,— in those days when - ■:■: '' 
the best piece.s, "both Jn prose and vor^ 
most dUtingiu.'5h(>d writors, found their \^i. 
annaol vohimcs of that dc^riptiou, such 
Bi/otif The Amuht, nnd The Vramug-Room 
Hook. John , PiCKFOftD, 

UdUon Percy, near Tadcaster. 

rTTood's " Lament for th.e Decay, qf Chiralrr* k 

whioh the poet dechirCs — 

"That none engatfc at turnto'snow 
But those who go to law ; ^ 
and that now, 

" No tough arm bends tbc springing yva. 
And Jolly draymen ride in lieu 
Of death upon the &hd(l," 
and which wo were disappointed n*<t to nnd io Uood^ 
Comic Forms, edited by Lucas, y*is pablished it Jhi 
Bijw for 1S28,] 

Jjuc. 15, 70.] 



Sowo : '• TiTK CorPER o' Fife." — Where can I 
find tliis soni^? It rolatce how, in order to mnkc 
his Iaij wife porform bor domoAtic duties, the 
ooopcr tied a sboep^kiu on her back, and thmshed 
that Tvhenever she was refrnctory. 1 have heard 
it with a '* nick oockitj uorum " choruiJ after each 
Un©. A. M, S. 

[^« are indioed to think there are diffprent reraions 
•*»*The Cooper of Fire." The one printed in AKxaader 
WhiteUw** Jiovk of ScotttMh Sonp, p, 333, comtueiiees 
thoa — 

C'^ There was a woe cooper who lir«d In Fife, 
Nickitr, nackity, doo, doo, noo. 
And htf ha« gotten n ^uatle wife. 
Hey Wmie Wallacky, how John DoueaU, 
Alano quo' lushoty, roue, rou«^ roue."] 
Janben's PoRTnAiT OP Mn.Toy. — I haTo lately 
n V photo^aph of Corneliua JanAen'a ]>ortmit 
of Milton at ten vcara of age. Can tou or any 
of Your correspondent! toll me where the original 
Uf S. L. 

[AcccrdiiiKto Mr. J, F. March (ISfiO) this was ouo of 
the piotune which r«raained iu the po«»eMioa of Milton'fl 
widow tni her death tii 1727. In 17tiU Mr. HoUiu pur- 
chased it at the sale of the efTccis of Mr. Cbarlia Stan- 
hope« who had proviou-slj' told him that he bad procured 
it U ihe executors of MiJtou'fl wid<iW fur t^rtnity guineas. 
Tlie picture pa^aed^ with the other antii]uiticj of Mr. 
H«Uia» to Mr. Tbooias ]}r.iDd HoUia, who left it u Ur. 
Diaw^f. aad a now in the poaacMioiL of Mr. K. I>iwey of 
the Hyde, near Ingateatooe. Tbo ploturA aeema to have 
bam hi^X eiteerood by Mr. IlulJis, iitj he, on Lord linr- 
rivgaon tiXfna^Mg a wish b> have ic roturneti, repliixl 
thai bi5 lordalup'ii whole etrtale »huuld notr«purchaM il.j 


(4*8. iv.40e, 51«.) 

I poaaess what w said to be a boob-plate, and is 
certainly 8 contenipornneoua niemoniu of one H. 
Eckius. It U pfi«i'd <io the fly-leaf of a 4lo 
^olumo printed ubout 1515 at StnLsbur^^ b^' M. 
8cliurer, which cotituntj Bercn of tlie curious 
aamooB of Geilcr von Keit^T&borg. The book 
waa duscrlbi'd iu Wt'igel't} CaUilo^e as haviu}^ 
JbniMrly belon^ud to Uiu celebruU'd John Kck, 
wad &s contaiiiin^ a largo niLniber of marginal 
notes in hia autograph. The au then tic ity of these 
I hare never been able to rerifv. The engraving 
19 eridently of a dale not much later than the book ; 
I should refer it to about the year 1530. If it be 
act a book-plate, it must have boen the lly-leof of 
aomo work written by U. Kck, as there ia no 
leUerpreos on the back. Its whole appearance, 
however, \b diilinctly that of a bouk-plaie. A 
Attack line rarrounds the design, which eonmins at 
the lower pmrt a kiga ahield, on which is a pyra- 

midal figure, hannjr evidently, fmm its angular 
(((tig) form, a punning rcforonco to the word 
''eckivs" iu5criDcd on a scroll nt its base. A 
cardinal's bat (the moat puzzling part of the dd- * 
eigD) surmounts the shield. 

Above it, ou the left, is a curious tepresontation 
of the Almighty, crowned with a mitre, the bead 
aurrouuded by rays, and surmounted by the suQ. 
The right hand is shown in the act of blo«-iog, 
nnd in the h^ft ia the orb. Clouds lorrainate 
the figure. <!»n tho right of tlie engraving ia a 
monogram, appureutlv of the letters 1 1. JL 1\ ThiJ 
monogram is 6gurcd in iieller'a Mannffrttmwen 
Lericom (Bamberg, 1$31, fo. 171), aud U thus 
referred to : — 

ht bcpnbfl fid) Quf Um in ^^Ij Q«fi^nUtfnoi '.," 

happen bc6 Dr. Get/ unb i)! nj.ibrfdjcinHdj auf l^tl 
fclbir ju bfjie^en wtil tt ^t\$<n fctnn: ■■- " ' 


I should be gh'd to learn from some of your 
correspondents Inoir vlew.i on the probftble reason 
for the introduction of the cardinal's hat in this 
raving. JonK KuoT Hodgki.h. 


'est Derby, Llrcrped. 

Mr. PiucocK hna been dpceived by the data M 
upon the plate of arms which he qu-^tea "Sir* 
Francis Fust," &c. The dale ''^lat August, ''^ 
1(302" refers to the lirst baronet, not to Hir <^ 
Frftucia, The flrst baronet was Sir Kdwfxnl b'u<»t, •• 
who was »o created on that day- I have the '' 
plate of arras mentioned by ftfii. Peacock, aod 
ali*o the other of tliP ealne baronet, 3ir Francia,-1 
givinc: his own marriage. The large plato men- 
tioned by Mr. }*KArooK is, as fer as I know, 
unique in England. It gives not qnartasiiigs only, 
09 wo call thorn in Eairlaud, but ^ Marria^^ee in 
the Male line," ajid •* Marriages in the Female 
line"; that is to say, the wives of men of the 
family, and the husbauds of ladies of tho £flmily. 
The last coat except Fnat, which, is repeat'Hl, on 
the aide of tho " Slan-iagea in the male lino,* ia \ 
Tooker. Thia give* the marriago of Sir Froncia ! 
Fust, wiiich upDoars again on hia own t^pucial 
book-pUte, which I have epokou of. iiiit Kruoci« 
Fust married, in September 1724* " Funny, i 
daughter of Nicholas 'looker of lbs city of llrli- ,i 
tol, merchant.'* 

Burke'8 Kiiirict Barondciet, or any barouetn^ . 
before the extinction of Fust, will furnish Alk 
Peac'OCK with these detJiUs. 

Theee book-plates are accordingly of a date not • 
earlier tbnu 1794. D. K ' 

Stunrtd Itodge, Malvem WolU - 

In connection with recent ''notes "and "que- 
ries'* on book-pltttee, I Ijeg to mention that I 
acquired from the dispersed Hastings library • 
volome consisting of the *'Magia Adamioa" and 



[4>»'S.V. Jjjr.l6,*n». 

«The Man-Mouse taken in a Trap" flCSO) of 
Engenius Philalethea (i. e. Rev. Thomas Vauphan, 
twin-brother of Ilenrv Vaughan the SilurUt), 
irhich has on the fly-leaf the book-plate of the 

Cat Protector. I dare not venture to give the 
aldic embleme or bearings ; but the motto ia, 
''Pax quwritur BcUo," and the legend round a 
drcular border, "Olivariva Dei Gra. Reiprb. 
Angh'as, Scotin?, et Hiberniaa, &c., Protector." 
The "Magia Adamica" has been carofuUj read, 
and has a large number of deeply-impreased 
pencil-marks and several mai^nol MS. notes in 
ink. I am very willing to believe that the mark- 
ings aro by no'lees than Cromwell himself, while 
the notes seem to be added by the author. The 
"Man-Mouse'' has only one (ink) note. The 
book-plate of Cromwell I intead to reproduce in 
my Fuller Worthies collective edition (large-paper 
copiep) of the complete "Works of Henry Vaughan, 
bemg prepared for 1870-1. 

Albxaitder B. Gbosakt, 
St. George'8, Blackburn. 

It seems worth inserting in " N. & Q." a de- 
scription of two book-plates which are men- 
tioned in the December's catalogue of M. Bachelin- 
Deflorenne, bookseller, of Gamck Street, Covent 
Garden. The following is an exact copy of the 
description of each book-plate : — 

"A moat interesting Book-plate, ia fi-lio, frcra the year 
1279. It represent!), painted on a board, a monk putting 
pieces of money in a purse. A Gothic inscription ii 
added : Hic est libkr uruoiori viitt Domini Goii>o- 

VI8 MowACHi Sen Galoaki camkrabii 

Bononia, Uinaldo Fittore, MCCLXxvjni." 

** Another Mmilar Book-plate, representing nlso a monk 
■with a pBTRG and 4 coats of arms not conservated. A 
Urge inocription below: Libbro di Fratk Jacomo 
DffUUM IUATI CAHABLinOO .... iic<x:xiiii. (1314)." 

I have in my own collection of book-plates one 
book-plate the date of which I am anxious to 
ascertain. Perhaps some reader of '*N. & Q." 
can state at what period the person whose name is 
on the book-plate was living. The arms are, 
Sable, a lion rampant . . . crowned. . . . 
Supporters, two lions regardant. The arms sur- 
mounted by a coronet, and under the arms the 
following inscription: *'EX BintioTHKCA nicolai 


K. D. DAwsox-DrFPiELB, LIj.I). 
Sephton Rectory, Liverpool. 

In the Pennsylmnia Provincial Letters and 
Paper«j Philadelphia, 1856, p. viii., it ia stated 

"Robert Shippen, u brother of * downright* William 
Shippen, 1G90, July 4, wns mmle D.D., eubnequently 
Principal of Brazeniiow and Vicc-Chancellor. His book- 
plate is prcsen-ed in the American branch of the family, 
and bears undcmenth the coat of arms the following 
inscription :— 

"Roberto^ Shippen, S-T.P. 
CoIL ^n. Kas. Principalis." 

I dare say that if Mb. Wbst will write to the 
present representative of this fomilr, ** Hr. Ed- 
ward Shippen, Counsellor-at-Law, Philadelphii,'' 
he win readily obtain an impienooai of ibia Doofe- 
plato, which \a in that gentleman's poaaossion. 

In this connection I take occadon to atk who 
was " Godwyn Swift, of Goderich, in tiie coaniy 
of Hereford, and of Lincoln's Inn, Banutav-at- 
Law, Esquire." At p. Ixxziii et sea. of the book 
above cited, John Swift and bis dwoendanii h 
America are spoken of. In the liOgan HSS. 
Logan calls this John Swift "a pestilent lawyer," 
and writing to Penn from PbUodelpbia, 2 ma 
1707, says: — 

" John Swift, a leading member of tite AMcmbly, is 
opposed to establishing nnlesa the €k>veninMiit " (Cc 
Proprietfliy or Penn) "will grant awaj almost all hii 
rights and powers in the Govemmcat." 

Mr. Swift belonged to the party vbielLVM ia 
favour of a change in the relations betwwn ths 
colony and the Penn?. 

It will be seen by a reference to the page gira 
above, that not a great deal is known m to tin 
English antecedents of this family of Swifts, tM 
any information will be much valued. Godhm 
Swift's book-plate is : " Or, a chev. bntj MMlt 
ar. and az. between three roebucks coanait pv." 
But on inquiry some fifteen yean ago at th« Col- 
lege of Arms, I was given to iiiidiiisliml thit 
nSjuUe was not correct, and that no matik. am 
were on record. Subsequently I was infowMJ 
from another source that they were to be fooadii 
Gwillim — a book to which I have not had aooM 
since receiving this later information. GoitMtor 
not, the chevron is nebttUe. 

It may perhaps cast some light on the inqmiT 
to mention that John Swift the emigrant mairiea 
a Miss Mary White of Croydon, near LcmdoD, 
and that the ^on John speaks of '< the luxnriooi 
life at Croydon." Subsequently John Ae no 
was made collector of the port at PhUaddiAi^ 
through the influence of Grosvenor Bedford, bmb- 
tioned in Peter Cunningham's Wa/pole Ltlkn, 


I can confinn the statement that armorial book- 
plates were in use on the Continent before tt« 
end of the sixteenth centnrv,for I happen to haw 
one dated 1595. It ia fixed in a copy of Velertm 
Scripforwn, qui Ccemrum et Imperatontm (ftr- 
vian. res Uteris mandarunt, published at Frank- 
fort 15^4, and still clothed in its original bin^ 
of limp vellum. The cover is formed by two 
leaves from a MS. of the Gospels on par^menl, 
and the fourth chapter of St John's Gospel is per- 
fectly legible on the outside cover. The binmnf 
has evidently never been touched or repaired, tm 
the book-plate remains just as it was origuil^ 
6xed. The whole surface is ezmu^tehr so^arM; 
the upper comers are occupied by a anting flgvn 




of T ftiippoae to bo) out Savioiir on the 

n. and an Evangeli<*t on the lel't, and the 

Vriieris uilcd vrith anvbesqut.-a and flowers. The 
o^ COiDtro contains a CTCiit on a closed helmet 
witb a ffliield of arm^, and is surrounded bv n 
Ubel bearing two mottng. Beneath is inscribed 
"Andreaa Ik'bam Sht Elter, Anno i>omini lG9o," 
The engraved surfaco is nearly iive incUes high 
and three inches wide. I Uke no intereitt por- 
aonaUr in sucb curiosities, but should be plad to 
knore if mr epecimen in rare and -would be 
ra]a«d bj coUecton of book-plates. TjswhSB. 

(3'«S.;}2,200j 4"'S. Y. 19.) 

I haslilj put tojj^ether; ulmosi aa thev occur to 
Die, a few additional details— cbieily bi&lio^aphi- 
cal — re.ipcpling thia local worthy, in tho Lope 
(but Mb. Kedobavk may find auuiuLblug among 
tbcm to uasist iu furtheranco of bis design. 

The name of James Bis^t occurs in tho i7(V- 
mmufhnm Un^tctoty of 1765, aa "Miniature l^oiuter, 
V-^-marlcet ■' ; ami Ufzain in that of 1707 as 
y Miniature fainter, New Street'; and iu 
. .w iiis establishment bad devtdoped into a 
*' Jewelry and Petrit'iiction Warehouse, Museum, 

ev.- Str;- t." Here It was that bo published a 

fie pofju), entitled *'The Orphan Bo^/' 

now the dalo of iho first edition, which 

was certainly in the last century, but it mubt 

have bad a very oxteusive sale, as ihG Ji/U'euih is 

ba£oro me, l2nio. IdOO, with engraved frontispiece 

aftw T), Otwq, Edq. On the fly-leaf wo liave an 

■ut of hi:* *' J^ublic Exhibition Ilooms, 

J i^cum, Birmingham," to which the 

fcriint'-ica is one shilling each ; and here he nn- 

oouocea that he has recently published "superb 

nedaiUons of the Into Lord kelson and Mr. Pitt." 

I oezt iind — 

"FJ'.t - •■ : ■ ■ Pliilnnthropist, tho 

T«<«r;i" , A l'ar(Kl^-, lly J. 

TAvyn*. ^ ; _,, r^lmo, Swinney nii'l 

f Id, witli engraved front, lesring; the inlCialB of tbo 

V\\i next bftvo that truly tasteful and superb 
work — 

I -Imra; with a brief 

.'Mti1 Manufaoturitis 

• ■ yr^, Ac'.-om- 

: Nttaif'S, i'ro- 
ii.iiic Pla,tci>" 

Of this elegant and most iutereatiuK work, 
w»?re issued with plain, proof, and coloured 
tdl of which I poM«e«. The pUtf^s were 
• d by Hancock, Reynolds, Smith, F. Egin- 

tdiiion of the Miujmjicent Directory^ 
moy appeared in 1808. This contains 
iy adtutional plates by Radclytre, &c. 

and a different title-pag^. The PoHic Sttrvei/ 
rotmd liinningham^ however, no longer accom* 

pauies it. 

1 also possess the author's own copy of — 
"The tirnnd Xationnl Dirctlory ; or, Literary and 

( **.mitu-rcinl I''vn.j;;ra|>liy, llenjit'i u'ullv iI«Jicutwl"to Lis 
Itoyol Highui.'s!!!, (jeorge Prince of Wales." 

In this Mr. Biaset has written: ''This is tho 
only copy I ever bad done up, containing all the 
BirminL'Lum plates, and OO of my intended Na- 
tional birectorv." In thia curious volume are 
inserted Boveral unfinished plates, the original 
wrapper of the aburtivo "National Directory.*' 
and some advertisements of the "Museum ; 
where (it may be noted as an anli-Luciferian fiu 
w« are told, may be had '^Bi^sei's Xewly-inven 
Ignitic i'hial for producing an loatantiuieoai 
Light.'* There is aUo inserted a welUeugrared 
fac-aimilo of a bank-note, by Tolley, as follows :— 
** Birmin^hitm, -J3rd June, 1795. 

"BlSnT'S fttoDSaN MUSKUM. 

I pramisp to Paint on DouianJ nit Kiiid.1 of Kancjr* 
and Imperial I'irtun.^, tir cxi^^-nle in lliu ?it'>^t Ele>;mj|;, 
and FaffhioiMhle f^tyle, Ilcatiliful OninmL'nIs i:i AlabosteFr 
Spar, or Petriractinn, iJt'Hvered safe to any part of the 
World, for Value Kcceivcd 

by the Tublic's Uliedlenl Serrant, 
Jasies QiasaT. 
To the NobUily, Gentry', d:c." 

This was tho golden era of ballad literature in 
Birmingham. Tlie French Iicvoluiian and ihd 
Birmingham riots had caused ferment in tb» 
minds of otir toy-producing citizens, and rumours 
of foreign iuvaeiou kept their patriotism alivflk 
The "Jacobins" mut nightly at "Foet Frueth's," 
in Bell Street, mid the "Church and King Men" 
at Joo Linden's, iu Peck Lane ; and bero the 
pipe and glass were accompanied by songs com- 
posed by the hotit or his guests, and expressive of 
seutimenU in harmony with the feelings of the 
confraternity. Many of these festive efliiaioas 
were at the lime, or subsequently, collected and 
published. Thus we have Thf I'lllitictil Snnf/ti<^, 
or, u Touch at the Times, (^'f John Freeth him* 
eeif. with his Aannttl Polilivul tb'oHt/ntt'r, and Nea 
haUath to Old Fumiiiar Tunei ; the IhtUad C'hr&» 
mcle» of William Mackay, '' recording Xalioual 
and Political Events between 17'-i7 and IdOSj** 
and not published till the latter date; "77 
Li*per, Songs, &c. nddreased to the Friends of 
Peace, Ac." by James Dobbs (1802) ; " The 
Loyal Stm^jsicf, dedicated to the Birm. 1^7*1 
Associated Corps of Infaotry/' by J. Tye (1700) ; 
and the ScrioscrapohffHtj or Dotjtferel Dhh of AH 
SorU^ by John Collins, author of the famous song 
"To-Morrow," — not forgetting tho songs of J. 
Free, which had issued earlier from the press of 
BaskeiTille. As a local I'yrtteus uur autuor was 
prominent. We have frotu bim — 

" The Peot.'tf Offering. Sun^a on ibc Siifniog of Fre- 
limiDorie^ and iUtitlcation of Peac«, OcU 1 and IU, 1801. 



[4*S.V. Jax.15,70. 

Abo i\w. Iri>h Union ; and Scrrrnl Miscellnneous 8on;;j3, 
mlAptcd to familiar Tunes," 8vo. Binnin^^ham : (.Jrafton 
ami Uo(ldi-11, 1801. 

This volume is dndicnted to tte "Memlaers of 
the Festive Anncreontic, and Sentimental Socie- 
ties,'* nnd con.Msls of songs, which the author in- 
forms U9 were all written impromjptu. Of another 
volume which appeared about this time, entitled 
Juvenile Jief/uph'cvftottfi, I cannot give particulars 
as I am nnublo to lay my hands upon it. 

By and by the projects of Buonaparte kindled 
the flame of loyally in our author's bosom, and 
he went to press with — 

"The Patriotic Clarion ; or, Britannia's Call to (Uott, 
containing Original Song?, written on the threatencl In- 
vasion.'* Tly J. l{i^!>ct, See. l'2mo. llirm.M.SwInDey, 1803. 

Of this there were '*fine copia<», with an ele- 
gant emblematic frontispiece," one of which is 
before me, 8vo, red morocco, gilt edges, — an 
el^ant volume. 

Later in life, as has been stated, Bisaet removed | 
to Jjoamington. Iloro his rhyminfir propensities 
did not desert him, and we ^nd them strongly 
developed in a little volume entitled — 

"Varioram: conuAting of Momentary ML<oeIlaneoa8 

Of former Days and present TimcRf 
Id Himplo (Scotch and English) rliymes; 
with a I'octical portrait of the Sexagenarian Author : 
conuining also an Original Apostrophe on Viewing the 
Magniflocnt Kuina of Kenilwortli CffHtlc. By J. Biv«t, 
Proprietor of the Taragon Picture (iallery, and Select 
Cabinet of the Vine Arts" 12mo. Leamingt«n, 1923. 

Onr author here boasts that upwards of one 
hmidred thousand copies of hia different publica- 
tiona have issued from the press, many of which 
have reached the fifteenth and sixteenth edi- 
tions — 

"'TheOri.han Boy'; 'The Converts*; 'The British 
Patriot'; * Britannia Triumphant'; •Vicissitude *; 
• Theatruni Oceauw ' ; * Poetic Survey round Birming- 
ham ' ; ' Tho (iranil National Directory * ; * The Leam- 
ington (iuidV &C. (be." 

He yet lived to add one more to the list which 
called forth his honest pride — 

"The Origin, Riw, and Progreas of I-carainHton Spa; 
or. What it wiis, What it is, and What it will be ! A 
Poetic KfTuRioii, by J. Binsct, &c/* small 8vo. Leaming- 
ton, 1828. 

Bis?et was now sixty-eight, having been bom 
in irCO. He died Aug. 17, IS-SS, aged seventjr- 
two years, and was buried at Leamington, his 
adopted home, A monument was erected by his 
friends "in token of their respect to his memory," 
and on this is recorded the previous death of 
Dorothy his wife, Dec. 14, 1825. An intended 
epitaph on himself, written a few years before, 
does not appear thereon, and so may find a place 
hew:— I 

" What I leas— oncf,— my Neighbours know full well ; 

What /om—iioir,— there's not a tongue can tell ! — ; 

(My bonee Uo moald'ring uDdcrneatb tliis sod) | 

What / Mmtl be^ia only Jcaown to God ! " [ 

.T'-hn Bisect was one of the dozen worthies 
known, from their number, as the "Twelre 
Apostles.*' Their lineaments are handed downto 
posterity in a clever Ilogarthian picture painted 
bv John Eckstein in 17Ui}, and lithographed by 
T. Vuderwood a few years ago. A AI3. memoT" 
anduni on the back of the picture gives the nizaa 
of the originals of the portraits, and states that it 
is to becomo the sole property of the survivor. It 
was the lot of Bisset to outlive his brethren, and 
the picture fell to him. It has eince passed into 
the hands of ^fr. Dugdale Houghton of this tovi, 
in whose nossesjtion — or rather, in th&t of his soo, 
Mr. Frceui Houghton — it still remains. 

'VViixiAK Bliss. 

(i'" S. iv. 401, 572.) 

If llERMTSf TRVDE wiU refer to the Cot Top.d 
Gen. V. 155, she will find it stated by Towncenl 
on tho authority of the po8t-fiwrtem inquest of 
Maude Countess of Oxford, taken in 14 Hen. FV, 
that her (Maude's) mother, Elizab eth, was ^ 
sister of Alice, mother of William willonghbr. 
and that Bobert Willoughby, son of the and 
William, was her next heir. 

Townsend, who had, he informs u^ bestoweS 
much pains in the endeavour to ascertain tte 
parentage of the two sisters, Elizabeth T7ffi>rd tak 
Alice Willoughby, had not been able to decide; 
but it is shown in on editorial note that these tm 
ladies were daughters (but not ooheizs as TswiH 
has it) of John first Lord Botetourt. «nd tbat 
Elizabeth was the widow of William le Latinuv 
and wife of Kobort Vtfnrd, aon and heir appaicel 
of Robert Eari of Suffolk, which Robert diedn.p. 

Tho first wife of Robert Willoughby is callra 
in most of the pedigrees Alice SkipwiUi. Banb 
refers to a MS. by Henry St. Georare ; but I find 
that in Burke's ^liinct Peerage (ivo Montacute), 
Elizabeth, daughter of John third Earl of SaUs- 
bury, is stated to have been married to Kobert 
Lord Willoughby of Ercsby. Probably this ii 
Hehmentrttdb's authority. 

Banks in his Banmia (i. 440^ gives a table ia. 
which Robert de Ufford has issue by OecsUs 
Valoines (with others) Robert, created Eiri of 
Suffolk, and Ralph. The latter, he saysi 
Maud, widow of William Earl of Ulster, and 
father of Maud Countess of Oxford ; t he 
hod issue Robert, who died v. p. and s. p.^ WiUbaif 
who succeeded, and three daughters erentuallj 
coheirs, of whom Cecilie was the wife of John 
Lord AVilloughby. In a note he eays : — 

" In a work entitled Cb/Zrcfawa, TopompMaa «f GeMS- 
/mrtm, it is uueslioned how upon the aeath of this £ad 
Kobert (of (Jxford, son of Maudi «. j>. Sir Robert WS- 
loaghbf could be heir to Maude Cxtanteaa of Oxftird, bst 
itmay readily be seen by referrloff to this pedlgna." 

a V. Jax. 15, 70.i; 



pnmiAM the meftningof this J?, that the heir- 
-» _*b Cecily UtforJ, «pd tLisAiewia 
MipiltTof n pedigree nf Ut!"ord in 
J -iiiii Genwlotji:<t^ '\\. 271, stated to 

be in ' 'f the articles in the CollrcUmca. 

It iz. ... -j^LTved with rt-gAid to the each. 
M ii'_n. IV. m. 7, which ia the foundntion ol" 
Tuwit^nd'A d«daotions, that there can be no doubt 
HiAt tliB jury found the heirahip incorrectly: — 

.. ,-. - .- , , ,, , ^ . , .. . T- ., : ' , 1 'Vil- 

li., vldenl Miiviviii^ foil ut' UuU:rt Kail of 
'T of Sir Kalph de Utfurd, ftithdr of the* wJd 

Lj tbU pedigree the wife of Robert WUloughby 

u "Alicti daughter of . . . Skipwith," and the 

wiff of llobert Lord Uftbrd, the eldest son of 

t Enrl of SufTolIc, ia Eliznbeth daughter of 

I*oril BplLitoiirt nnd widow of William third 

li-r. The xaarriBge took place in 13^8, 

jis no issue of it, end llobtirl died, aa 

y etated, vUdpairis, It nppeara, 

mufit r*?jeot tno evidence atlorded 

i the Countesfl of Oxfoi-d*fi death. 

tatoa most cloarly that Itobert 

V. heir to the Countess throujrh 

:\ iwiherj sifitor of Elizabeth her 

L. u - by true, Uobcrt Willoughbymar- 

rii-U VuQ sistez of his mother's hrolher'ji wif& 

II. S. G. 

V :!^.^'X should mention that in tnv pedigrep 
\\\\\..,.,,v,\.. I have called Alice' SMpT^ith 
r ^Villiftin Skipwith of Ornifby, 
r Itarun of tlie Exchequer, who 
tli«d :' . r which, I think, CW/uit la my 

aulhc. . 


(4** 8. JT. 421, Wo.) 

Tou? correspondent Dk Moravia invites re- 
suthoritiea to eettlo the question whe- 
, hroidmf, and bntxfiJvd are aynonjmoua 
jt.h TOUT pcnniosioa I will endeavour 
\y a Utile infctrniation on the subject. 
1 li'/mal word in 1 Tim. ii. il, vhiyuaetv 
> means plaits of liair — about tliia 1 
'here is no question. We mtife-t, there- 
ptet the eqoivaieuts in the Tftriona veraionu 
■w the -iftme idea. lu the longuSK^^ cog- 
rhe Gothic bas^i/i^uuj, which is 
iiftl root with tho cousouaotal 
i_' X»n Griram'slaw. The Anglo- 
.p us, as there is no An^divSaxnn 
no iipifltlca — at least none published ; 
'iXSBftfFea of the Gospels which describe 
lu^. ^o-aiiijj^ of tie crown of thorns, they used the 
word to iruifi/— '^tbyrnene helm an)undet\ne" 

Lnther traufilatea the paesagu in Ximothy "niebt 
niit zop/iHf* not with toploiots. The Swedisk 
follows' thcr Gotliic, *' icke med JUtlutH hiir." Tho^ 
Danifeh, '*ikke medy?<'(H/'«»/w," *'uot with plaita^, 
W'icklide has it, "not in nnfthcn heriew'' Tyn-j 
dido's tnuiiilation (15C4), which is not fUwa] 
BulUcleiitly acknowledged as the main basis of our' 
Authorised Versiou, givei It *' not with l»'oyded\ 
hearc.'* Cranmer's Ciblo (lOuO^, and the GeucTi 
edition (lo67^, adopt the same. Barker's editionB^ 
(1. have before me that of lOiO) liave **AroMfcrf 
hftire." The Authorised Veiaiou in its various 
editions, with very fuw oxceptionp, has hi-oydtd or 
fft'oiiietL The Ivhemish ver&iou (lo80) gives the 
pasiage, ** not in plm'ted hearo." 

Now what is the original meaning of broydedf la 
the old High German or Thcotisc language there U 
a verb bretfa^ or rather prcttoj " retorquere, strW 
pere."* The Anglo-Saxon equivalent of tUii la 
hrcddn or hrepdan ; post tense br<rd', tho post par- 
ticiple is broded or brotfdtd. Softening the ff mto 
y, as ia the case with many other .'Vnglo^^xoa 
words, we have the exact term used by bur irans^* 
Utors, of which our modern word " to braid" is. 
the lineal descendant. ^ 

Now lot us turn to brwUrfti, and see if we can 
ascertain its origin. jVll the authorities concur in 
refemng broirtet% trfuhr^idery (o tho French brodrr, 
Nowthia word is certainly not derived from thflP 
Latin source of the langua^'e. We must look tq 
the Celtic, from which no mconsiderablo portion 
of French words are du^tcendod. Menage has an 
absurd notion that brodir is derived from 6'W by 
metathesis, as embroidery was usually on thc|, 
edg^.-s of ganuent.s.f Ducaogo, with his usuat^ 
perspicacity, hrn^ hit tho right point ITe says, auJbr 
voc HrvdaiuSj linudus — 

" Voces onIu» pjuftdemquc nt^tionis et orlgilii-s pro Apera/ 
Pbrrgio acupicto plnmorio j nmtn^ Broderit. Britonibtis' 
BnwiAi, s<*u phigvrc. RrilanniH (tifularibos Snvyd. in4] 
Btrumentura Acn piiinemU. linhtui ,i»mi itinfjcr^, icttxere,"'' 
etc.— Cr/£i«MriHm ad ScriptorrMy Vmihiis, VHiit i, IH'itfw 

Tn Oaelic brmi is a needle, a sflng. In model 
Welsh ftrrtrffWtc means, to embroider, to dam. , 

Broidedj then, is the participle of oraid^^ Tcu^ 
tonic derivation which always siguiiiea, to plait||] 
to fold. Broidtred is the participle of brvidcr—^ 
ft Franco-Celtic derivative which always siguilieaj 
to work with tho needle. Where words of dif- 
ferent origin so nearlv resemble eacli other, 
little coufu.sion iu their employment is not to bel 
wondered at. The dlHereuce was quite under-^j 
stood by our oldur lexicographers. 

Cotgrave's French- T^nylitth Dictionary^ published' , 
in IGoOj was an adaptation and enlargement of . 
the first Fri'TtcIt-Euylish Dictionary edited by i 
Holyband in 1660. He gives : £roda-j to embroy- 

• See Grsff, AHhnckdruHchrr Sprmhtehatx^ iii. 287. 
•f Diciionnairt elymofoffiqHe, Psrls, l/fl<', i. 260. 



[1>*8.V. Jak.13,70. 

der; borilef, rrcoTWr, to imbroder; friwr^ creajnr, 
amfm^t other meirnings, to braid. 

Robert Sherwood compiled the Dictiotmrnre 
anghin H froHc^uis^ lOoO, winch is bound up with 
the first Vdilion of Cot^frave. I'nder fr/v/iV/, ho 
gives friicr, creijwrj grtdilter. Under ** Ta brodcr, 
to imhrodeTf^ he jpvt-a brotier, hcnleTf recatiter, 

Sninutil Johnson (edit. 1775) explains braid 
(bnodaii, Sax.), to weave together ; braider 
(broder, Fr.), to adorn with figures of needlework. 

I trust your corredpoudcTit will bs salistied that 
broided and broidred are not synonymous terms; 
and if the lutter \\m been employed in the ren- 
dering of 1 Tim. ii, 0, it haa been thromjjli inad- 
vertence or ignorance. J. A, I'icto.X. 

Sazid^knoire. Wsrcrtree. 


(4^'' S. iv. 558.) 

The mention by E. L. S. of Temple Franklin, 
ft l>i>puttid natural son of the great philosopher, 
recalla f>oiuet,hing else corroborative to my mind. 
Some great men, by the way, arc better not 
looked at loo close. Amusing mvself recently 
by making an index to the diary lu MS. of my 
great-grandfather T. H., governor of the then 
proviuL'e uf Massachusetts Bay, ranging Irom 
June 1, 1774, to his death in 1780, 1 came upon 
a pHMago relating to the Fi-anklins. Under date 
Aug. 29^ 1779, being in London and residing in 
SftctriEe Street, the governor writes : — 

** Uinpd at Lonl MAiulk-ld's nt C'-Aen WikxI. Onlv Lord 
Bobcrt Muunerit besM« the faiuily. My Luul at f 1 ur t 
has nil the TivncUy uf fiO. LorilRohl.'is only Jjrolhor to 
the Ditko of Rullnnr], nnr) it now Licntenaii't of the Al- 
ddc," ttc. he. '' LAtIr MasAdeld miut be above 80 

A black oomo in aft«r dioncr. and «at vilh 

tlie ladlM ..... Uo coUs her Dido " — 

and ro on ; but the pungo reforriag to the philo- 
sopher is thiis: — 

•* Dr. Franklin btin^ mentioned, my F-onl snld that he 
fFmnklin I carried hii grandiKMi (wfiich, by the way, ia 
Oie natural t^un <jfhw natural flon,bolU by titreot wtuneo) 
to Vuhaire, who said to the lioy — Low God ami Libcrlt/. 
I ohscrvcil (0 bin LonUUIn, Uiat it woa dilHcult tu luiy 
which of thoM wonU bad be«n most otod (o bad pur- 
pon*. lie sMond plcMed with my reotark.*' 

Here is a pr«tiy genealogy! TerhanB E. L. H. 
can identify the father of the boy with the per- 
son of whom he speaks. P, Utrrcjirrisoir. 

•' Dr. Franklin'd eldest son William died in 
London, Nor. 181,'t. His wife, whom he married 
in Loudon, 1702," juiit after he was appointed 
governor of New Jersey, died iu 1777. A.s he 
took the side of the loyalists in the revolution 
he went to England iifler the war, rocf^ived a pen- 
bIou from the kiug, and remained theru till his 
death. Ue had au only hod, Milliam Temple^ 

who died without isiniG. fSee Appendix to tho- 
Life of Franklin by dared Sparks, i. 540. li^ton, 
1&40.) In l''ranklin*B T\ill the nnmo of hit grand- 
son, William Temph? Franklin, nppcniJ several 
tiuiea. (See Life of Ifpitjtwiin Fraiil'lin, Appendix, 
i. 001, Sparka, 1840.) 1 Lope E. L. 8. wiU 
pardon my correction robitive to the fxnct ntlft' 
tionsbip of Temple to Beojauiin Franklin. 

Jno. Kate liAiur] 
Walham Grocu. 

Is not E. L, S.'fl memory somewhat at fauU OB 
regardii tbe rolationiihip ot Mr. Temple Fninklin 
to the relebruted Doctor Dt-njamin Franklla, of 
whom Turgvit said so forcibly — " Eripail c<slo 
fulmen, sceptnimt^uo tyrannia " ? Ilis son Wil- 
liam FranliUn, Esq., was iu 1770 govenior of New 
Jei"?ey, North America; and when Dr. Fmnklin 
Wits sent over to Europe in a diplomatic capacity, 
his grandson William Temple Fmnklin accom- 
panied him as his amanuenaia. It wiis he wha 

>* pKicuted to the Bcpublic of Lcttai th« authenlii 

and mof^t inturestin^ racnioriala uf Itenjamin FrunUtOi 
illustrative of Ui« Lifo and TiatM." 

There is no naestion ns to the Ugititnacy of both 
son and grandson. Of the former it is hiiid : 

*' Governor Franklin AUed hU high and 1 
situntiuo with ^lual credit to hinuelf and n^- 
llie proviocv tiil Uk' wiiLtiiouci'mcnt pf ihn ..>>• 
revolution, when, unUko most of the yuvermni nf iho 
other provinces at that eventful period, he remained un- 
(lianiByed at bid po!<i, tilt he woa laeizvd by the nrroln- 
tionary gDvcmment, conveyed to a distant part of tbo 
country, and ngoronMy detained as a pri>orH-r fi>r nrar 
two years, when he was eventually liberated In 177Ji ta 
exchauga for an American f;ciifrui ofGccr. IIU loyalti^ 
Hud monarchical principles remained undimiuiahcU tof ' 
death in 1813." 

In a letter of Dr. Franklin to faia son, of Oct 6,^] 
177;J, he saya: — 

" I know your Msniimenti differ from mine oo the 
subjects. Vou area tlioruiigh guvernmcot man. which I 
dn itot wonder at, nor do J aim at riiavntovy you. I 
wUh yon lo act uprightly and steadily." 

They were of course estranged by thi^ durii 
the whole of the American coutest, but later wei*] 
reconciled. May I bo allowed, in couflrmatif 
this assertion, to tranocrihe the feelinu;ly ex.\ 
senliments nf the ^-eat plitloMpher in a 
addre»4ed to hie son from Paasv. Aug. lit, 17d>^ 
the rather t)int it shows tliH iiiffh esteem (b|, 
grandbou, AVilliaut Templo FraokUa, waa hsldi 
abroad : — 

" Dear S"it), I rceci\-rd your letter of the 2Sd 
and am Kind to find thai you de><ir<' >.i r<-vi..' th^ 
tionnt'j tnltrcounte that ronncrly 
will bo very Oj^rceable to me;*ii. 
hurt nto .--li much, and aflcotod tw: m i 
sationq, ni lu lind myself deserted in i i 
only soa t ""•! "ot "nly dea«»tod, but tu 


8wV. Jas. 15,70.] 



«p snnc * a^nuiut tne in « mqw vb«rein my i^ood famv, 
lortaoe and life, were all at »Lak£. Voii cotiurivcil, you 
Mv, that yonr duty to your Uinjj and Trgonl for your 
cou! ' ' U. f out;lit not !" b!nmn y»m for ilif- 

fer with me in i-Mblic •tfni'rs. Wc nw 

in<*i. - rrnnt. (lor npiniiinft are not in rmr 

owu power ; they Ri« fonned and ^'ov^nied much by cir- 
coBUlanuu that arc oflen as inexplIcaMe oa they arc 
incaiAtible. Your situation wa^ 6U'7ti ttiit few voulil 
hAr« eeocnred your r«ni»iniiitf neuter — though tftr/g are 
matmni dmlirt tchith prerrUe jMjUiicui w«r«, um/ rti»iii>t te 
erti^ffuidUed Im/ thrm. This i» » diitagrvealjle bitbjeci. I 
drop it. And we vill endeavour, as yoii [)rnp<j.Ht\ mutu- 
•Ur • -' .,hni lias happened relating tn it nn vrell as 

we ' your son over to pay lils duty to you. 

T^'.i iiiTi much improved. Hti'Ugre«Uy'<utectne<l 

and U-Ioved iu tbii coaotrv, and will mSte h'lA way aoy- 


(4«' S. iv. 500.) 

Brpn*splan of urin^r tliopatrpa <>f " N. k Q." 
iJH replies to communications wliich havo ap- 
in other jtlacea U not to be commended, 
letter detailing my search for Bob-up-and- 
down appeared in Th« Alhen*run% a year ago; 
and fioir an answer appftftrs in your cohmms! 
Witb Oie letter in the Kent paper I am not con- 

Bi ^kSim Bkdo "rcfusea to belicrc thf^ locality 
^bad ft Gad's Hill repute, and challenges any 
t*» prwluro n Bpoclc of evidence to support anv 
Buch suytosition." I said noihiug: alxmt "Gade 
Hill." i only ppoke of " the diflicultiee and dan- 
ger* which seem to have beset llouphton HiU" 
(quoting: Hasted) ; but Mr. Bedo's challenge is 
- lilv answered, and that by Chnnctr himself, 
iti host's question — 
Where dwellen yt, if it to (ell«n be .' " 
kOQ^s yoomRn*s answer is — 
In the mburlic5 of o toun,' i)Ucm1 be, 
Xuikinq in himps am! in I'lniM hivntle, 
'/Ict^ an thfxf n'W«.>Mr* mul rfir*t thewt by kyndc 
foltien here priv'- fcr/^i) n-tuhncef 
la thay tbat dor nought Achowcn her presence : 
To furcn u«, if I schal *ay tb« wtbe.'" 

low this account refened "probably to 
or somewhere near the foreat " (see 
Society's Temporary I'relace, p. 'do, note 2). 
^^ain : when the pil;,'rim8 were on the Bob-up- 
Mill-down aide of the forest, the thought of dnn- 
|eff nppenunst in tlie host's mind was of thieves: 
" Siroa, what ? Dun ia in t]\fi niyre. 
If ther no man, for prayer, no for byre, 

gat wol awake our fclitwf al byhrVide t 
Aeefm tniffki* hictfml tiphUt/ mbCe and tmptde." 
FmwivAM/» word^ arc "The (no doubt) 
-haunted forest" {lb. p. .1o). 
AIr. Bf.ho'b objection, that Chaucer uses 

(Vpmor Fmnklln (it ia l^dirvcd) formed and com- 
■ Ibn Cnrpt of I,njfal{/U at Sew York. 

the expression " yclept," ia abeurd~ho evidently 
does not know its meftuing. Mr. Albert Way 
{PromjiiotHum PtavuioruiHj p. 81) has the follow- 
ing note ou the word : — 

" The Terb to clrpK xa cointnonlv uwd bv Robert of 
CiloucustiiT, Chaucer, Gowcr, and other nnc-ient writers; 
but sj early as the sixteenth crnturv it appears to have 
become obsolete." 

A late example of its use will occur to yonr 
leaders : — 

" In iloaren jfcUped Euphroeynfe."—!' ^ffi^ro, 12. 

3. Since my letter to The AtJu9M«m was writ- 
teUf I have walked the roads several times ; wodf 
although I have modified my opinion somewhat, 
I have not abandoned my theory. Uarbledown 
has everything to recommend if, excei)t the name. 
Up-atid-dotcu has the name, and, right or waxing, 
was UrBi pointed out by mo " as the hite of Chau- 
cer's Uultoutk or HotHstiMiL'* When I have time^ 
1 may coramunicalo the linal result of my nu- 
merous walkr) throu}rh the Forest of Bloau. 

4. Mr. IjEuo speaks uf ''small country lanea^ 
and ** little eountnr lanes." Does he know what 
ihe roads were like in the fourteenth century? 
The road I advocate follows, for one-half its diB- 
tsnce, the great pilgrims* way from Southampton 
to Canterbury, which is described as being *' now 
perfect, not nine feet wide ' ' " at one place, at 
another it ia fifteen feet in width," "pursuing ite 
rtolilarj* course about a quarter of a mile" from 
the villages. Mb. Bedo may be glad to know 
tbat the streets of ^ifnAurcito were *'appoiuted and 
set fartb very commodious and hnndsnute, both 
for cttrrisge and also againste the wiudes. The 
houses be of fnire and gorgious building. . . . 
The stretes he twentie toote brode." 


(4* S. iv. 3:15, 491, 570 ; v. 40.) 

J. Ck. R. (4»»' S, iv. 401) makes some sUte- 
mctits respecting the etymology of names of 
places in Scotland which have the pretix Crom, or 
in which that word enters, and further concludes 
with asserting that the people nf England and 
Scotland de'^cend from the " Norsemen," as he de- 
clares they are "our trno progenitors." This is, 
in r^gsrd to Scotlsnd, to use tne mildest phrase, 
as great romance and fable as ever baa been pro- 
pounded. The Danes (that is, the Norsemen) oad 
no footing wh/itover on the mainliuid of present 
Scotland till after the tenth century, and of more 
thnn two-thirds of it they were nt no time the 
settled inhabitants; therefore the Dtuiee could not 
have given local names to a country which tliey 
never occttpird. 

With regard to the word Crom, your corre- 
spondent says its etymology is from a Scandina- 
Tian proper name, which he calls Kmm-r, but 




does not tdl ys -whnt that means. In the coun- 
ties of Ediubur^^h and Fif? (neither of which the 
Banes ever possiuwed) there is a place called 
Abercror/ihie. It is impossible this narnCf vrith 
the pfefix Aber^ could come from Noiaemoii, as 
it is derived from the (laelic langMsgo and means 
n confluence; and the word Ct^m joined to it is 
also from the Gaelic, and m^nities curved or 
flloping. Thu name and aU othcra vbero the 
"Word Cr»m appoarH in (Scottish topijgrapbj were 
no doubt given by the Caledoaiaii Gael at least 
a thousand ye-ars l^fforu even the earliest apiiear- 
auce of the Danes at ouy port of prewnt Scot- 

In the coimty of Elgin there is Crotudale; it U 
from the Onelic Crom-^itiJ, that i', the cun*cd 

Slain or field. Cromki, in the comities of Abpr- 
oen and Lanark, is hovx Crom*lcathady meaoing 
the curved elope. Many more osamples could hu 
given, but I should only enrfoarh too much on 
jour space, l must not, however, fail to men- 
tion that Crom likewise appears in Irish lupo- 
graphy, and has the same ueuuing as in Scotlaud. 
It occurs in the counties of Ktrry and LeiLriui^ 
Tirhere there never wMe Danish inhabitants. In 
conclusion, as to the Norsemen being " the true 
prosfenitora " of either the Highlnnders or I^ow- 
tanaers of Scotland, it is absurd, and contrary to 
all history nod truth, A IIiaiii.ANJU?R. 

In niv oonimunication (p. 4f>] there are mis- 
pints of two Hreton words : the Breton for *' rock " 
18 roch (not ror'k)^ the Breton for "young"' is 
iaowmk (not u/ounnk). To that comrauoication I 
would add a litUo. 

With the Breton ftf^mmm (as in the dialect of 
L»^on)j orkrmnm ((win the dialects of Cornouaille, 
TpSgmer, and Vannaa), crooW, may be com- 
pared the Qermau Anmiwi, crooked, aod tlie pro- 
vincial lingUsh cro7/te, crook, stick with a crook 
at the end. With this latter word, moreover, 
•hould be connected the English word cmw-htii 
(i. r, bar with a cro</k at the end), or, by abbre- 
viation, croK. It is a mistake to cuniiect this word 
with the name of the bird called avw, a deriva- 
tion neceaaitatiDg for the nuuce the erroneous 
suppoatlon that the end of the bar resembles a 
crow's beak, which, after all, is not crooked. 

Afl to the aecond half of cruuible, I need not 
enUrsre on the Celtic hitl, hatjle^ ai, aU^l, aUh^ &c. ; 
And the Sanskrit hala. sala^ 'sara, jtira, ic. 

John HosKrNfl-AnaAHALL. 
Combe Mcarage, near \N'ooilstock. 


(4"" S. iv. -tW, 576.) 

One semi-retentive brain contributing this bit, 
aad another that, many an ilhidtrotion of bygone 
^iiaos might be reoov<'xed. lu the hope that some 

equally rerainiaoent initialist will follow W. T. 

and my htiinWe self, till the few ' 

yfc/iA' of "Langolee" — which I n^ 

have heaM sung by that prinw *>{' Irish hallmi-- 

singers, Jack Johoetone — are filled op, T otlVr mr^ 

reminiscencee. It opens thus : — 

" WhtQ I took mr departuiv front Dnl-l > 

For England Itselr oVr thn teas I di 

Thrao long dayt an<l ni^ts i wss tso-' Ic 

Liks a ^uid of chewtid ha^* in Lbo tlj < 
Then afriitcl from the deck into ocean * 
1 citing like a cat a fast bouU for to I.- 
Kound about the tig post tbat grows o in oi \\ 
filr — 
Och, 1 never thought moro to Mng Lsngolc 
• . . ' • • < 

"Ifroupl»CT,s!r, Mva I, msl' Intake bouldtv 
If ih« coach goes at four,' pray what tioie 
Itosket t— 
For tlierv I could rifle, and ring Langotc*. 
• Then DiAking hh mouth up. The Basket, avy* ]b^ 
Goc« after the coach a full hour or two. — 
Yer>' w«U, then, sayft I, that*! the thing ihat^ tatm^ \ 
Hut the (levU a vronl that lie touU n- - -:-^- ---a 
For the one went Ufurc, and the uthvr r 

Tliey iel off cheek bv jow! at the rcn 
1^ the Mmc day and iii^'ht 1 art off b; t 

AM alone l>y mywlff singing LanL' 
" IjOn^i life to the moon now, ihat »woei n >; I*' tr.-] 
That supplies us with htmp-light each ni^lit 
Wliile Ihe sun only fihines in tli- 

Wants no light at all, as we a:. 
But sjt for tho moon by my soul i ii f.v H'liu.i, ^ir, 
Twill satT the whole nntion a gr.'iit many poondk 
If they suliH'ribe to light her up all the vcur r- uaX >i:. 
And let her shine on, singing Lai. 

[ \ more correct Torsion of " Paddy Bnira i&xpidiiian, ' 
by t'oltina. ia ptinied in Tht Vnivtra^ StmoH^t ttii, 
ii. 216.— En. J 



(2»* S. Til 22.) 

It was onco very truly observed by your ttir* 
reapondeot O. N. (U*^ S, vii. 18) :^ - 

" It is one of the adrantageji of Mng a 
•N. A Q." that it frequuttUr re^rc< -'^^-- 

and Hcta a-ruinof^ng 'in shidves and preaaes ftt 
&C., which in oth»r oircurostancea would remai» 
moths to prey njwii them." 

On reading a little further, «ame roli 
find (page 22) ^Ir. Wiluam J. Thoms'ji 
to the woodcuts. in the old German - 

* Sloann was in thote days a thin^' oi , 
meiaao to the long and labouring passage Lf-tirci-uj 
ana liolyhood. 

t I have a thorough retncmbrance firs">-,T 
"Thu IliliRenco" — a slowcomotive of 
between Worcester and London — which 
father's hoiuo twice a week, with its sis inut 
while hunvi, and a huge wieker baaUtt 
ftaelf { but not, as in Uogarth'd tijxM, cairyingliM'j 




iiul ptiLlkhed at Fraok- 
.'iuiU Htuid & bi^itiuud 
1 iiiiiii.'omtttly turaeU to my edi- 
i ■vhicb, bowevtT, is tbut of I^IK), not 

p\^f. iL iiiis tbeori^iuiU biudiov of the tliue, a 
foU-stAraped parchiueul covor, wilh, in the centre, 
votuAU holding a crucifix, and tbo holy wafer 
Bd cup ; underneatli, " Fu>hh ksj: uriwTA. 1577," 
9 the preface ti> this Dew edition, iSi^uiid Fever- 
bend (for iht-re 18 his uRmc thus written, ana he 
r&s then ala!].-"i. li" »a,ys: — 

" Xacli *l- '^<it gUiuliij;er LJifcr^ Ich tiuU«u- 

inandterni >i>h, vor vi«I .Iiirtu im Truck liab 

istgehcn la^acu, uiul in lan^or Zat keiit Kxenplar 
•br la bokoicn ^'cwesen, bin icU (lurch viel pouter 
kriicher L^v — ..-.i.,. * vordeo, ditscs lU'JdvnbupU 
i^ernmb : iulii, losondurbcit von 

)^»n ill' ilvrro un ¥rz\xu<l Lanrentz 

ilbrtcht^ UUi^tii uii UuclibiUidler xu Lubcck buwegt 
Orden, dasz ich d&sto che d<n Koctcn nufrncuict Figurtn 
Kwni^fed hab." 

Tins book w m fbur pntta. Kow, on comparing 
le new eneravinga wilb tbose mentioned m Mk. 
STiLLiAM J. TiniM>«'» note, they appear not to 
I'^eyerabendf like luauy celebrated 
_ tlu»e dav&t tbe Etiuunea, OperinuSf 
% leuited flcliolar, very wise, and otber- 
• Tcxy worthy man. 1 poasess the auio^'raph 
of him by P. Melisftua (Paul S<.-hede), 
lie, one of tbe most celebrated lyric 
of the dxteentb century* 

Sxocaxvvnx Fcirradesoi civi» bt Bt&uoroi.«« 
FiLiN< oroitTtt.Naie. 
Splendida F&ma, tii.i; rcM'ri:in-< prtvcania loudii^ 
Xuti ccuatnra F>ri'.:rnli<;nde tubi, 

t arduitetn ^eKcroso picture flaramiinii« 
. 11-11 aniouit ftftJa ccarAa bddjb. nf-tr A 1 

lA-sidu ««t, cui torpor bumi las^entla somoo ' ' 

Dejicit, aat bau^to riiembrn ^ravaia inero. 
Al cui moDto vi^t stndinm virtntii hoDenin*, 
}?00 anintum ra^iat c-luuKcr iu alta tubiu? 
FriDcnforti ad MKnUm, 
A* jf.D.tJLXXiii. Mm*! Srptembri. 
I'. Melisacs, 
Comes FaUtiDus ct Kiars, 
Civ-ia Komanus.'* 

have with it a food portmit of Melisstts^ 


a flow^ in hia hand ; It js signed mm. I 

d libe to know who the engrarcr ia. Of 
Wyvmbend I have also a very expresalve head, 
nrared in 15^7, ** Plonoria ipsius causa I ma 
tSsaa a I. Sadclcr." Above, in the eky, is a 
yiDg an^el. trumpfitin(^ his fanie^ as thou;,'1i tbe 
■■MS of Melieeufi had be«n compoaod for tbe 
■lEraTiDfr, or tbia for tbe vertMs. 

rr... ... .1 -'/^utsin tbe Jlvldntbtich oiindO 

t lation of a man in the etocka, 

,, ., 1 feet, wbicb &bow8 that 

of 1 , 8o well described in 

obtft ■ dnvsftlrendy. P. A.L. 

(4" S. iv. 378, 5-10.) 

It is at last concltiniTely settled that tbe maa i 
in the iron moRk, whose identity has been tbs' / 
cause of so much Rpeculation, ttbs, as Louis W, 
told Madame de Pompadour, tbe minister of an 
Italian prince. 

Tlie reaearcbes of M. Marius Topin have 
established beyond reasonable doubt the id^niity 
of tbe mysterious prisoner with Count MattbiuU. 
I quote irom tbe last number of Z'irj^rm/c/iouet 
{v. 68^1 a few words which give a concise sum- 
mary of the present stale of tbe question : — 

'*M. Topin lie ftiit quo confirmer I'ssserlion do Ivou»tA.i 
Fasillac cl dfi Delort, qui unt rc'vcle, Inn en 1800, rautrft 
en 1H25, I'arcDttirc uo.Mstthioly, ministro du diir dfl 
Miiiitouc, enlevu subitemeDt eu ib7it, ct incftroetc l«X 
urJre Je Luub XIV, 11 (5UiblU ntic, hka ^' ?■ ' ^-.--.k 
Faslllae tt Delort, des pflmphb'isirt-a, t!- i-? 

itftlietii, dei^ nuMiCHtsji, avaUmt dt^^ ib'nonr 
ment ot aviuent vu dans la perwnne du MattUioly le 
pruuouiur au masque de fcr. jl aurail pa ajouttir, aux 
noma qu'il cite, colui dc rbisturien Carlo }'<■■**". -I'-i ■"> 
tome Ti dc sa continuntion dc tiuicciardliii > 
p. 321, dit auasi, eii proprcs Icrme?, que M 
' il prigfonero InoogiilM colla mnHcliprs di fono, lAnto 
rinotiato nelle stone diFraiieia.' Moi-) ce qtip Too n'avajb' */ 
pas eacore fait, autu^t-il, e'uat didciiUl'tLT «\AcU,fnc<ii 
ul diTiuitivemvpt It; porsonnoge enlevc prii*^ dc I'jfiutxul 
le 2 mnl 167'J, et le prisonnicr ile U BastiUo cntiarc ^ 
IVgli^e fijint-Pftn! If 2« novcrabre 171)3. ' I.h c.n Ic 
nwud de la qnwtion.* II mlmet aveo on eritiqne trbs- 
itapin?, M. .lull's Lolsclcur, d'Orieans (Wrr. con/, juillet 
ViGl) quo sniu U di^couvcrte dti docanuiata nouvoaux ct 
prwbantJt, ci-llc idontifiration ttnil touti-Cui impWi^iUle, 
ei qui*, le iiix ■ !-[-.-r a toujijiirs. ^laiJ^ c'tst 

jumenunt < ,n'\\ a cu It! buiilnur do * 

faire. Aittai, ;: .a , li -- iiufdlles qu'il repnnliilt- 
TDPttent burn de doutc quv c'est bi(>n le ni^me prmnnier* 
oonric jk ^aiot-Mara, qui tnM-a d'abord, «ou>i m ^nlf, en 
1679. «u donjon dc rif,n ■ ' I '^ 

lui. It: 19 mari If.PI, an i, 

qui p(Hi#tra «rec lui, Ic 1 , . '. 

p<iur y mourir Is l& oovvmbro 1 703, et etn* riil<rii' II- k'li- 
ilvmaJD, (WKtii 1q nom de Marchiafy. Et e'cAiec prisnn- 
nier que cffnt^m* uxm d^jwcbe inddite, parf i ' '• '!■"* 

lb tJ& ttvril l')7y, ot coiiteuanl vnlre du !• io 

ft»mte Mallhluly, sans giiK i.a ci["hk i . ^ 

E8CLAT, do Ic racevoirk Fignorol et L'r FAiuEuAKhEB 
SAMS QU« rKHsoiOiB KX AIT moTfoiiWArirH, enrtn ds 
fairs «u aurt qu« PERSONNE NE SACUK CK QUE 

"Vnilk qui est iurt bion; l.'i tU^monstratiOD nio parait 
complMc ; 

**Ls ma<!qne tombe^ I'boninie reste 
Kt le litfros pVvanonit." 

Tbe writer in V InUrnt^Aiairc then states that 
M. E. Gallien had already, in the pages of that 
agreeable mispellany, estftbli.«hed tbo claim of .Mat- 
ihioliby the aid of "the documents already knnwu. 
The eonelujiion of this communication of E. H.*e 
is also worth transcribiny ; — 

" On cilait le Mtinqut th /er comoift on cite la picrrs 
tiliiUwtophnK*. bi quadrature' du mtcIp, la direction des 
bnllon^. 11 no faut ploa d&^Ap^rer de tout celn, ni de 
rwn, Ml ntmc tie fctattiateinent (Cua bon ^uverttmmt <a 

rruHct : " William £. A- Axoir, F.U.S.i*. 



[4*S.V. JAJK.IS.TO. 


ThR "HaWKTXS* CoLLEmOK OF Htstorical 
pRrsrs" \T TRK BBiTisn AlrsETTM (4*" S. V. 5-1.) 
I baro had the pk-osurt: of reading io " N. & Q." 
of the Stli inat-, a paragTAph rc^iKJcLing- the forth- 
romin? putlicalion of a Cattlogiio of the *' llaw- 
kina' Printd," to Uie EppearancL> of which 1 look 
fonvartl with much inlort-Bt. But io that pai-a- 
graph I oh^ervu a Blight inaccuracy, which, I 
think, 70U will permit me to set ri^iht. It men- 
tions an important seiiea of conelutivo liiutorical 
prints as*' newly discovered," wbereoa it i» within 
my own knowledj^'o that they wen* well known to 
the Into excellent and lamenteil collector uf the 
main i>ericfl, now in eour?e of being catalop^icd. 

More than twenty years ago, Mr. Hawkiua 
asked your pref4!nt correapondent (0 prepare for 
Hm a complete list of the prints dispersed among 
the *' ThomaaoQ Tracta " in the Museum ; and it 
is known to mo that be used what I bad mut-h 
pleasure in coropilintf at hia request. Tririal aa 
thia point of detail la in itftelf, there would ho 
aome impeachment of my late friend's knowleilpe 
and diligence of research in what is well hnown 
to have hccn to him a favourite pursuit of loisure 
hours, bad ao curious an ancillary seriea as that 
referred to iu your parafitaph of January S, 
remained " undiflcovcrca " hy hioi during^ such 
protnicted inqiiiiicB as were bis. 

Edward Edwards. 

WocKUido rotta4;;e, Ili^hgatG. 

Rrv. A. n. OnosAUT AWt> a " Loteh or Con- 
BKCT Texts'* (4^»' S. iv. 6-10; v. 4^V)— Mr. Onn- 
«ART is too rapid in hia conclusions. I observed, 
but did not mmmu^ in the four errors I referre<i 
to — t*biiHin, eli^iaaun, and ^Knve. The firat being" 
merely the transposition of a letter, and the spel- 
ling of the pf'cond and tbinl being; posflihly ttuten 
from the ori|?iaa] manuscript. Tho miistaki^s I hod 
in view, in addition to the potinn for ponterti, were 
the lave for /«&<■, ptieumati for pufumaUf and, 
which he deems to have overlooked altogether, 
mi in the first verse for fm. For the correctness 
of this statement I may appeal to a wnU-known 
contrihutr-r to " N. & Q /* to whom I immedintely 

fioiuted 3ut the erMrs on ftpemn;> tlio volume, 
laving net Mu. Grosart ri;^ht on this point, I 
tru*t bo will not believe for n moment that I have 
tbf) slightrst wiNb to uuderrato hi'a labours or his 
merits. I preatly admire his thorough -going in- 
dustry and research, his strong enthu&iaam, and 
his hearty appreciation of what is beautiful or 
excellent in our older litcratTire. I consider that 
we owe him much for what he has done in refer- 
ence to the Eoffliah Puritan diviueH, a class of 
writers in the knowledge of which be has no 
superior: and for whnt he has done, and is doing, 
in regord to the English Iloli^Hous Poet* — a good 
work, which I hope will be prosecuted to the end. 
My ouW ohjrt/'t was to direct his attention to a 
subordinate but still important point, which np- 


poared to have been aomewhat ncgle^t^d; 
that having been now done, roy purpose is 1 
cientlv answered, .\9 respect* thw '* nope " wl 
he tells us he has been ** wicked enoufjh* to 
dul^o, 1 can onjy addT>3«» him in the ndjarat 
preferred to the bibyl of old : — 

^ Reenll thst irtsb, ere yet tho boU bat 

And ruin circles my ikvoted bead.** 

I tmst I may be allowed to anbtcnbo mjrMtf- 

A Lover op Corrbct Tkxts. akd x srxrnn 

Friend to xnE Fitllek WoRTnrKs' I>ibr4bt. 


(4* S. iv. 600).—! am much oblijr^ ' •- 

for his quoLfttion ; the explanatioi, lit 

It is the old English icrayw, .. I.. it 

represented by wrefj/iuo or wres^itw^ but not 
Jercfffiu^. OS the letter j may oe denoted by jr fltj 
but not by J (except in Oenuao). It ia a )^ 
ffi/t, i. e. an annual donation, or, in oommea 
lonoe, A Christmas-box. The Hm part of 
word ia tho gcDitivo case of t/^r ; the latter 
is tho A^-S. ffi/u, n.oflitf, a gift. It 
Piers the Ptowman, iii. Ofl (ed.' Skeat, C 
PresB Series^ p. 27) : — 

** f^s deToraint tabernacala eornm qui UlMilVi 
ptunt mnDcrn, etc. 

Amon^e tlus lettirefl ledei thia latyn ia tn tatm, 
That fvru slial faU(.>, and brcnnc nl to tilo tsJttt 
The faoascs and the homes of hem that d«5tnUi 
Yiftcs or yoresyj-ups bi cause of here oflScra." 

That is to aav, Langland explaina the 
(Job XV. 34) by tie phrase : — 

*" AmonfC these lenrned peopi* thin Latin aifcrtUli^l 
fire shnll full, and burn all to blae ashe4 the hoaa*' 
linmcH (if them Ibat Aaan gifts or tfensyaua by 
their iifliccji." 

The word is duly explained in my gloSMiy* 

Walxeb W. So*^ 

I, Cintra Terrace, Cambridge. 

Gerrk Rran lyscRTTTTov (4"* S. iv. 470, MB.)] 
If B. C. n. will read the inscription on his 
»a it wrtfi intended to be read —that ia, bar" 
he will see that it is notliiug more than the 
Su^o;, which ia very intelligible Greek, wil 
having recource to tne mysteries of the digsmi 
- WiLUAu AxDis Wju 

Triti, ColU Combridge. 

Frtday Usxfckt (4'** S. iv. oO-l) — Yon? 
respondent W. P. quotes from M. Minani a 
mont that Friday is in France coosiderad 
unlucky day — the number of travellen 
aniall{?r on that day, even in omnibus 
Kegistrar-Geoeral of Enghind. in his \iiAt 
Bays : " Seamen will not Bail, women wilT 
wed on a Friday so willingly w ou other 
tlie week." Out of 4,057 raarnR^fea in 
land districts of Etiglaod, not 2 per ewL 
celebrated on Friday, while 33 p»r M 
entered into on Sunday. The next in &' 
Monday with SI per cent., then Saturday wi 

4* 8, V. JJJI. 15, '700 



■nt. Mr. Wntson, the city chnmberliun of 
'y, in his laat fttatietical report, sajs; — 
15 a well-eitabliphctl fnrt thnt nine-tenths of the 
kUM in Gliu^ow nn> c^'ltbrxted on Friday; onlv a 
on Taoedny aud SVc<lnc»<iaj ; Saturday auil Uoii'Uy 
Are fttill more ran-ly adoptcdt and 1 have ntvcr hriLrit uf 
*nich A tbio^ io Glasgow as a marrin^e on Sunday." 

So that, in Scotland, Friday ia the lucky day of 
thd wevk^ at lt>a»l fur ninrriRge. 

The Ei>itob of the Leisure IIouh. 

•Thxtoo Coi7HTBoc8KinGnT"(.y''S.iv. 501.) 
exfttsaon '*aU lay in ihf dmT$ month" 
i«, by the context, to dgnify 'wide open." 
•o, it is not difficult to see why — forthe mouth 
of li«U U at all tiniea Tcide open, and is repre- 
•eotcd in old woodcuts and atained-glasa windows 
by the jaws of a hideous monster stretrbewl open 
to their utmost extent. It is then quite posfltblo 
that tlie writer referred to a picture with which 
hid eyeaight must have beenvury familiar. Even 
IVncveOii speaks of the "jawa of hell." 

Walter W. Skbax. 
1, Cintra Tttnet^ Cambiidg*. 

THJt Srx: n* Gk.xper (•l'" S. iv. 558.)— The 
fltateuaeDt of E, H. A. that be hns never seen the 
son used of the feminine gender, except in the 
works of Mede, is exceedingly amuwnj^. The dilh- 
would rather be to tind any iubtance of iU 
_ inasculine in any English T^Titcr from the 

Iff of the author of lit^tcul/ Ut nt lefist the end 
of the fourteenth century. I at oiic« ^ive a couple 
Ctf examples, via.: " tfie sonne gaf hire liiht," 
^thc nun gave her Vi^hi), Layanion*8 Umtj ed. 
ila'dcn, 1. 7231* ^ and ** the sonne gan louke her 
I hcF'Sel/" (the sun locked up her light 
horwjlf or wjia eclipsed^ Pier$ the IHow- 
tmmj nL Skeat. 1). xviii. 243. My " XJ. text " of 
I^nglaod's I'toi the I'lounum^ contaiuiug the 
latter quotation, i^ now being published. 

In our early writers the sun is femiuiue and the 
mooQ masculine. The question is rather, what 
am the earliest intttances of the contrary 'i Accord- 
ing to Dr. Bofiwortb'tt edition, we iind the moon 
BMCuline in tltu old Kng-lish version of St Matt 
xadv. 20, which he dates at about \.d. 005, but 
fcninfDe in Wyclitlb's version, a.d, 1339. 


1, Cintra Terrace, CambrMg*. 

' "■ '"' "' ■ "' ''"'^') — Your correspon- 

pCht. Worda worth's 

,i.,. ,.«.*, * / / .'//w/, imder " The ace 

ll^>a," foi' Ai^ views (in my humble 

iher fanciful and unpbllolo^ical} on 

.1 between the name of this island 

jicw for a dove. 

C. M^C. 

..uCAB Airn CttPESDAXE (3*^ S. xii. 71; 
8. T. 21.) — P. A. 1*. is informed that these 
ilhe mar^tusate Utks of the eldest son of the 

Duke of Hamilton. The present Duke, before his 
ncccA^ion to the dukedom, \ijied to f«if.<ti his name 
" Douglas and Clydosdale.? 

Bolton rerey, nt-ar Todcast«r. 

Makuiaoe L1CKN8KS (4*'' S. V. 15.)— G. W. M. 
asks where " Ucense bonds" may be inspected P 
Marriage licenses are granted by the smrogates or 
otiiciala of, 1, the archbishop of the province ; 
2, the chancellor of the diocese; 3, the arch- 
deacons. The jurisdiction of the first extends 
over the whole province; of the second, over the 
whole diocese ; tnat of the tUinl is limited to their 
respective archdeaconries. The til/rffoUon (there 
ia no •' bond") sworn to by the party before the 
issue of the license is preserved (or a re»>rd of it) 
in the registries of these eoveral authorities, viz., 
nt Doctors' Commons for the lii-sti ut the registry 
of the biiihup fur the second, and at the respective 
regi^triei^f the nrchdeacou.'^ for the third. Jn the 
cast) of Winchester, as put by G. W. M., the alle- 
gation, if net at Doctors' Commons, will be found 
at the bishop's registry or that of the archdeacon 
of Winchester. I know of no n'ffht which the 
public have of searching in such ca^e? — I believe 
there is none — but rav own experience is that a 
courteous inquir)' would meet wth a satisfactoiy 
answer. Lioensoa for mnrriago in dissenting plocca 
of worship are quite another matter, and are 
issued nnaer the General iiegistration Act, and 
ftre, I suppose, recorded nt thy Ueuoral Re^fistry 
Office in Ijondon. E. V, 

Sin Fbajicis Psubkbton (4"" S. iii. 424; iv. 
122.) — After reading Mk. I<'oss*s note, that the 
monument of this judge had been F)]K>oially exa- 
mined, and that the dAt>j of ida death in the in- 
scription was plainly June 10, 101*7, it seemed 
useless to reply until either I could verify my 
extract from the register dating his burial nu Jan. 
15, liB)7-8, or I could prove by other evidence 
that this last date nuist oe wrong. I have been 
unable to consult the originnl registers of High- 
gate Chapel, but I have a^ertained that the will 
of 8ir I^iancis was proved in the Prerogative 
Court on August 11, 10U7, with two codicils. 
Codicil No. 1 is dated June 0, 1097, but codicil 
No. 2 is not dated, and merely gives some trifling 
legacies to servants, &c. I find, moreover, that 
it is recorded in the minute-book of Ilighgale 
school tliat on June 23, 1007, Sir Wm. /Vshurst, 
Knt., Alderman of I^ndon, was elected a governor 
of Highgste School and Chapel in the place of 
Sir Francis Pemberton, Knt, who had died on 
June 10 preceding. Mh. Foss, therefore, was 
right in trusting to Chauocy's copy of the epitaph, 
and I was wrong ia relying on ray trauscripl of 
the regi.^ter; and I beg him to accept my apolo- 
gies accordingly. TewaRS. 



[4*8. y. J- 

Gkobor Vwcekt (4^* 9. iv. 364, 54S.) — I dm 
BoiTv that no more precise information Las been 
elicfted by "N. & Q." njspecting the talented but 
iinfnrtuTiato ai'tist, George \'incent. J. E. 1>atT» 
will find in Itedj^ve'a (Jei^Hry of JPttifterSj Hig- 
ior\j of the Xonrich Sihool (vol. ii. p. (174), the best- 
known fttctfl about Vincent, ■vrith snme ^ooA cri- 
tifidm im hia art I hope AL G. will parsue his 
inquiries. Nokwich. 

Ai.'*iKE (4**' S. iv. 612.) — Linnceus mentions in 
hia F/ora Suecica tbnt Tfifoitum hylrithnn prrows 
ftbundiintly in Uic parish otAhilwj about l«D Kng- 
li&h Diilcs south of Upsala, togiithcr^s'itU T.prataist 
and rrpett", of which two epeciea ho considered it 
tobt' n hybrid. Tho proai-at nunio of T. hyhridutn 
in i:f\vtfdi»h is Al$ikr hWccr (clover;. I tak« thia 
opportunity to inentiau that liutalagat tho desig- 
nation for the Swedish turnip in America, where 
" Swedes " is never heard, owes its origin to » 
Swedish provincial word — rotabagQarj literally 
rootrftms. JT, XL Lc»DGiiBX. 

Cm.dah (4*" 3. iv. 612.) — Id reply to the 
inquiry of your corro«poudeut Q. as to the mean- 
ing? nf the word caldar (or calder^ aa applied to 
stonMS, the most probable derivation is from A. S. 
galdttr, A sorcerer, enchanter. The woM is found 
m all the Teutonic langUftgeM — O.G. jpo^iftri, Norse 
ffat-en, &c., with tho sense of singing, chantinp, 
which waa attached to tho idea of sorcury : so 
niffhtwffnif, Ger. nacht-i-gal^ is tho night-singing 
bird, (TftNtte, the corU which crows. Thu root ia 
foand in Sanskrit, ^/rf, oryfir, 8onHru«mu8snre^ the 
liquids I and r being interchangeable. Now for 
it« application to the stones. Tho Calder stones 
referred to by your correspondent I know well, 
having resided within a mile of them for twenty 
years. They are somewhat larger than described 
by Q. l*revioufl to their being surrounded by the 
protecting wall and railing, many marks of tho 
circle and cup character were visible on their 
rough Burfaces, but the ivy which has been planti'd 
boa covered them with a thick veil of loha^e. 
That ihey are pre-Saxon in their origin there can 
be BO doubt, as they form the meeting-point of 
three townsJiips — Woolton. AUerton, and Waver- 
troe. Tho Saxon settlers finding th«m prominent 
objects on a bleak rocky moorside, might verj' 
naturally connect them with the mysterious rite's 
of their prodecessora whom they had driven out, 
and heuce the name of the "sorcerer's stone.^." I 
may mention that very recently, within a rnodu- 
rate di:stuuce from these stones, a number of cine- 
rary urns of rude pottery of the early stone period 
were dug up, J. A. Pictojt, 

Sandjknowe, Wavertree. 


Upon obviously iciffnl missiafcmenta in booksellers' 
catalogues no one can be too severe, but oa they 
do not generally profess to be other than very 

hasty compitfttions, it would be stnuigc if th^ 
were not fi*cqnently open to the chw^ 
lesgnrsx. Th^re is, however, a limit to a 
and if nil tho errors which have e.iciled Lli< iz^n^ 
your O.^f^rd correspondent are from rno single 
number of one single bookseller's iJia- 

logue, I entirely agree with him i la 

amount of careles&nes* is hardlv t ' 

ohiect to bis tarrinj; us all witL r ' 
unless he can show fhnt snch a car 
specimen of those published by 
Manding. I would as soon pletid ... 
limitations aw eay cavfat cmpiur In the wider 
ofthophnuw: but book-collectors should 
tmu the standing in the trade of thoeo with 
they deal, and certainly should not jud 
better by the worse. 

Without for a moment doubting that "W 
Ireland was the author of the spiteml poe 
tied •• UhHlcographimanift,** I do not adm' 
tho preparation of an affidavit "by Caul 
more than corroborative evidence that how _ 
for tho authorship of anonymous or pseadoni 
ous publications i.s a matter about which meooT 
nmch higher rank in the world's estinuition ' 
not hesitated to utter or write an untrue deniiL 

A UooKdBtXEBi 

Heiiaztiio: WrcirBRt.T (•I'*' S, iv. '^^A 
The reference of E. W. to Wycherly of '^' 
CO. Salop, shows the identical coat re*)- 
Uurke {Otn, Armoty) contirms this. i>ut 
publication also assigns to Wycherly anc 
coat, viK. per pale arg. and an. three eagles dii 
counterchonged, and creet, as with the 
ried— an eagle displayed sa. ducolly 
Which of these is the paternal coat of XVj 
I have no means of determining, but I inc 
think the latter, and that the former b«l( 
pome branch of the houfie of Clillbrd, 
have been atlopted by Wycherly in coi 
of t«ome marriage connection between the fa 
Did a ClitTord ever marry an heires* of Wi 
and assume her name while retaining hi»^ 
arms ? Okowdow*; 

Spill (4*" S. it. 454, 54(g — The St 
words spjeie, subst, Kndtjy'elkn, vb., both 
splinter, throw conjddcrable • light on 
niology of the word it/nV/, and make it kbi 
clear that it has very little to do with 
shod liquid (Swed. jyiffu), but is intimatclv a 
nected with tpell [to split words]. The •' 
in the Onger * (in Swedish '* fpjile i fingMB* 
spoken of by Mr, SwiSBTTTro, and jipetf, as 
and pronounced in several counties, are varietil 
of this word in England. Jamieaon gives 
Bpftil, ipml; tho Icelandic forms are tpua, jjpd^.i 
signifying Bplinterj and all correapocdiog to 
firflt Swedish form. The Anglo-Saxon V^ 
subst. ; spcieeatij vb. } the Dutch qxUkf and 




I Gothland^ aIbo of the aAtne mciin- 
d to the second form. In Dutch 
I, ftnd in GoTman nmlteti^ dialectic 
" ; ond the French ('/W/r, to 
; from the sumo rout. In 
)ru \i unknown. 

J. H. LuirpoBs;^. 

* S. iv. 283.)— May 1 oujrv'eBt that 
eD if contributors to " N. & (^" on 
should eUvts if tliov aro p^r^onnllv 
lb tiie sputs; Rn<l if not, on v>hfne 
y (lo&cribe nnd diacusa them 't li I 
Cnrufic froui my own ohservation, 
V from C. VV. s rrmarka that the 
^ upon th'ir adwIUv end* in rows, 
in;,i,.l,.ij.'' AVho ever found stouea 
imlltor enda? or who knows 
1 the lower ends are buried t 
kuthority does C, W. speak of IbMii 
am (^uite aware that th«ra are many 
Cftruftc-'one in leisure Huitr some 
la the woT^t U»at I ever saw ; and 
^ tl' -ure made to stand on 

iiod , . there not ia circles. 


«r M** 3. 17.45.1,671.)— I am Hither 
reterred to m "Mcatitho- 
I thftt, uncontirmed, he was 
whatever. I hare not taken this 
otm lhTe«iig:ittions, «o I quote nn 
D?nn a>r. !T "-K ia the Tjires of^ Hif irrh- 

iiu» wbcD speaking oC nn oprn- 
Lvcr know, wtio uai the fAihpr 

Ueii a few words wliich do not boar 


HKVvann. in pxeacfaln^ a wnnoii, rtrit^I 

- ■ 1'--'' }f -' ' — naMtilyr 

, Kiq WIS 
( >u«L A;i acLi <ii hii^lnt; heeti 
■thoini't pro-wnt (rt the wrraniii 
I.. J., bef<(pc wlinni tlift cft^c WM 
!iii.l only bi>**n rccitwi a.t a story, 
; iitili -Mni; tlirm mnlMoii'^lr. nrni 



was almost im- 
r. W.nfi he muoh. 

H. D. C. 

7, 643. » — A> anv- 

■r Andn' muat \)e 

vour readers are nwore 

uo late JIiyor-General 

Cnyler of Vitenhage, in the Cajio Colony, within 
a few milea of I*ort KU»abeth, is preaerved with 
great csir^ a vety interesting relic, namely, the 

Snrtmita of th" p^enerars parent.*, painted by 
Iftjor Amlfu while he waa a prisaoer at Albany, 
N.Y., of which city General L'nyler's father, on . 
American ittjMUtiat, had been mayor. It is re- \tff^^mk 
cfml'd in hia Life tluit he drew Lis own portrait J "^ 
(ejii^raved in Sparke'n Life and Treason of .itidr/) 
'lu the morning originnlly intended for liis execu- 
tion, n, H. 


Sir BRrATT Tfke f4* S. iv. ai3, 480 ; t. 24.) i 

Mt jiote does not say Ibnt Sir Brian Tuke died in 
I/WIO, but only that it is *o niuUHl in Siow, My 
aeeurany f herefore is not affected, whether in fact 
Sir Briim died in 15.TI?, as Stow says, or in 1545, 
OS Mu, PifjooT eaySj or in 1547, as Mn. Xkwbomb 
implies. I observe that Nichow sava he died on 
Ot. 20, 15.^0. iLiUnmj AtiwltAen] ix. I»i3.) X^ 
hope that Mn. Newsoue will clear up alldoubl 
by sending an abstract of Sir Brian's will to 
" J!i. & Q." Tewajw, . 

Sir Brian could not have died in 1530, as P 
Btates; for in February 1510, Henry VJII. grjmlut 
him the manor of South AVeald," Essex, and the 
rectory for the sura of 8^:3/. 0.t. Sd., to hold in 
cnftifAiy the twentieth part ofa kni.-li!"- f.^. He , 
had Ihree^ons, Mnximitinn, Ciiail andf 

thw'e daufi^hters, EHzttboth (wifi- >: :. >catl), . 

A Honor ( wife of John Ma^Tiord of JLond-Jii), and. 
Mary (wife of Onor^^e Touchet, Lord A'idley). 
Maximilian and Charies, ai^cordtni^ to Mnnmi 
both died without Smuo— the latter, Mfl4'ch li' 
1547. <5eorgre, the third son, then twonty-thrt 
j'oars old. snccreded, and uanictl I^lar<faret 
dmiffhter of W. Morico, of Chippinp (>npaT. 

Jyu> PiuooJ, Jltt. 

CAW>nrAL BjoRKJ.n;u (4"* S. t. 15.) — A 
KiLiUEH wiU Bnd a detailed, prirhaps a somewhat^ 
embvUitbed account of the Caislmal's fanta^tii^ 
appearance before Anno of Anjitrin, the Puche 
de Chcvrause, ic, in the lirat vol. of Lauu XT] 
t4 ton Sih'lfff par Alexandre Dumof;* p. 41. Th 
book iQcIudeB the reigns of Louis XlV., thoP«1 
gent Louia XV., and Louis XA'L, and cimjdsta 
sixteen small volumea— not p(-'rhap8 a hij^-h hi 
toricftl authority, but very amuninp*. It will,*' 
uU evBj3t4», fiujiply what your correspondent . 
Rbadeu wants. C. K. C 

rosrnox of tjie Ciu:kd» etc., in Cuusc 
(4'*' S. V. :M.)— Tu reply to Mb. KiUKPAnnac^ 
query, may ngl the existence of tho creed on the 
wpst wall of tho nave of Wcat Iloathly church bo 
accounted fur on tho supposition that at the time 
iif the Kefomiation the communion-tjible was 
placed in the very opposite position to thul pi'c- 
> iouiiiy occupied by tue altar, in order tho more 



t4*8.V. Ja».15, 

iefiectually to remove all remembrance of the sacri- 
fice of the maas ; and that the careful restoration 
of modem days has placed the table where the 
altar formerly stood ? H. F. T. 

'• ToiA Natcua ra iinmiis " (4«* S. iv. 534.) 
It h not probable that the»e words can be found 
in any classical writers, for they state a false pro- 
position. They have boen used by Hoine modem 
minute philosopher who indulges in specuUtJons 
on molecules and ntoms, and who ma3' be con- 
Bidorcd " the small unknown." I poeaess a work 
written by an Inner Templar — HluU w Matter ? — 
in which (p. *M) he says: — 

** I was IM to adffinlta knoirlodffc of the nntnrfof an 
atotn, wherein 1 «aw the mantfeflUtian of onrlnw, resuU- 
iDg in two equal and opposite forces— attraction and 
repuUlon. 1 imroecliately felt that tho world is but the 
Twiltant of atoms — a groat atom of attraclinn and repul- 
sion, and the univcrw but tbo reaoltantof all worlds— 
Itcelf al«o, as it n-ere, an atom of tfaeao two force?, aitrac- 
tk>n and TenuUion, tbe roanifestatton still of one gnat 

By a geometrical and analvtical investigation the 
author^has arrived at tbe following result (p. 181^ : 
" The equatorial diameter of all atoms is tne 
same; nnmely, aiiaiiiavi^^ P**"^ ^^ *° inch." To 
understand thw author thoroughly, tho readermuat 
master pp. 121-190 ; and I think he will agree 
with me that tbo result is more important even 
thAn Dalton'e theory of definite proportions. 

T. J. BrCKTO.v. 

Arthur Barnardisto?! (4"" S. iv. ."W?, 409.) 
It turns out that I wm right in doubting whether 
Arthur Baruardiston, who married nt WeRtmin- 
ster Abbey in 1071-2, could be the Master in 
Chancery of 106o ; for it has been found that the 
Master's will is dated Nov. 10, 10i55, and was 
proved in tbe Prerogative Court on Dec. 19 in 
the same year. The testator mentions his brother 
Sir\ntbaniel,and must therefore have been the son 
of Sir Thomas Barnardiaton of Witham, who, in 
his will dated July i?n, IGIO, speaks of " my s^mW 
son Arthur." I obeorve that all the Coronetngea 
make bim younger than bit) brother Thomas ; but 
his father must nave known best whether Arthur 
was his second or third son; and bis filiatiaii is 
correctly stated in Mr Almack's interesting 
account of the family in the 4th vol. of tbe ^Suffolk 
Arrhtmloffia. " Tewars. 

Cromwell axd Miltos: " Beloicus Pokta " 
(4'^ S. ii. 600.J — Although it is an awkward task 
to explain one cr two isolated lines of poetry, I 
give you the translation as near as I posaibly can : 

» I)o«f any one amongst yoa mean to My that deril 
and hell is tburr ? \c», to throw oil in tlie fire, to do 
injoBlii^, and to tnnrder is considered right there." 

I do not know tho name of the *'Belg:cua 
Foeta," but the spelling shows that he lived in a 
northern province of the Netherlands. 

J. Vak dk Vblde. 


Ball" (1"S. vi. 53 ; 2-^ S. v. 171 : 4"»8.iT. 
617; V. 23.)— Will Vox allow me to diai 
attention to the ballad of " The Cruel Sister 
tho MinUrelni of the Scottish Berder, iiL 
edition 18(51, and also printed at .587 e« 
that tinely illustrated volume The Book of ^ 
BaUudi, edited by S. C. Hall. Tho bo^y 
younger sister, who bad been drowsed by 
rival, the elder sister, in the " bonny miH-dama* 
Binnorie," is discovered by a famous harper, " 
makes a harp of her breast-bone, with stna 
her yellow hair : and befom the assembled -. 
tho narp, \mtouchcd by human band, bcfrioi 
strains of melnucholy music : — 

** But lh« last tune that tha harp played theq, 
Ilinooria, O Binnoria I 
Wa»— ' Wo« to my sister, Adse Helea 1 

By tbo bonny mill -dams of Bianork.** 

What a 6ne illuatration of spiritualism ! 

Bolton Percy, n«ar Tadcoatcr. 

Mbtbopolitan (4** S. iv. 572.) — Lyndi 
{da P<icni9) says : — " Dicitnr archiepin?'«>pn< 
Bpeclii fpimcoporum quorum prioceps * ' 
est; metropolitanuB verddiciturremect' 
in <^uibas corstituuntur episcopatua. Tbe 
which is an a rchi episcopal see L5 the mel 

hence we speak of the metropolitica] chuL 

York and ( anterbury. The Bishop of Lcfidf 
only dean of the college of bishopa in 
vince of Canterbury. SoFrances (de CaUu 
says: — "Inter ChristJanos metropolir-' 
tates appellantur quro habent arcni* | 
(p. 01). The learned Beveridg^ all: 
eerto nutem habemus ei explorato I) 
sive Cautuariam Anglaruin metropolUico 
fuisae ©cclesiam, ex quo illi ad tidem ( 
cnnvei-si sunt " lie confirms hie positi ; 
absurd argument of Gilbert, bishop « " 
who claimed for bis see the title of .^_^ 
because the archflamens once resided isH:^ 
Blinding to the apparent contradiction, "{ 
eadom hoditi non sit ecclesiaj ntqne rogui 
polis, sed hujus quidoui Londinum, iliius 
Cantuaria," eolvea it by the fart that «t1 
coming of St. Augustine, Canterbuir aoi' 
London was the civil metropoUs. {WarUA 
xii. c. V.) The inodeni na^of " mfir<^iUm\ 
some of the colonial sees has i\» apt pi " 
tho sublime ignorance which created " 

In a word, Lnndon is the civil metropolis rf' 
realm, and Canterbiiry the ecclewastical b* 
polis of its larger and southern province; bal 
Bishop of London is not bishop of the metnli| 
although his sec is in the capital (prima ctd 
of England, it is the old story of tha goMi 
silver shield. 

Mackenzib R. C. Waloott, RD^j F^ 

«»&V.jA5f. 15,70.] 



ArriBtnoJt o? Old Boorr at Strombom (4*^ ' 
ft T. 3L>— I thought tbst 1 had laid Booty's 
glKWt io " N. & Q." (l* S. ui. 170j, but be atiU i 
tans. I do not kuow what U metint by '*tbo \ 
'Sag** B^Micb records." \Vb«t and where are 
Ihcjrf If luir one will tell me I will go to [look 
■t llintn I know whnt the record in a cause 
b^ 9giA iLm conildetit that none waa mnde up in 
BootT*! caee, bocaase none coul<l bo — *' actio per- 
^uoiua moritur cum persona.*' An executrix, by 
tbft fhigluili law, nt^ver could maiutiiin an action 
'for dander of her testator. I may also remark 
dm: i "11 of tho attoruo^' who ari-ested 

and i <U a defendant in a suit fur uuliq^ui- 

dated daoka^tifl would bare been unpleasant if 
tofUtfht before the court. £1. B. 0. 


HSTBT nrPKTi.E 14"* S. V. .10.) — T!ie anther 
wu tbe ' leorge Phillimore, Q. C, nnd 

\M Xmv i Uionnl Law at Kincobi's Inn. 

TTie ' . ii 1 saw, literally before the ink 

wtt^ ■! somewhat from the vewion in 

*'X X V^. 1 remember that it had, instead of — 
•* Wliat'Tcr's (TOoJ or iire»t in men 

Mav t/i7 trao«l to byilrD'(i;t:a '' — 
""Mycb chat u sublime in man 
ilajr Ik t/aord to nitrogen." 

Ax brxKB Texpulb. 

In Spain, but furniahea, we lia^*e rctmn to l»eliero, a 
fuller and more accurate sccutnit of it tltAO itt to be 
foond in any SpinUli irork upon ibe sutject. 

The R&zburyht BiJUtd; fVith short .Vo/e« fty Willimm 
Cbappell, I'-loq., F.S.A,, AuUior uf " Papular Muiiic of 
tbo Olden Time," &c. ; anti Copie* of the Original Ifood' 
cutSt itratcn hy Mr. Rudolph Blinil atul Mr. \V. U. 
Ilotliper, tind twiruved by Mr. E. V. Uiiubnult and Mr. 
— ^- -- y^ f p^t I. 



taa Attmmt •/ Gothic ArehiUctun in Spairt, hy Oevrge 
Mnatf Street A. R.A^ Hauornry Mcmtwr of the Impc- 
M AcaAdny i>r Fine Arte, Yirnno. Sectntd Kdition. 


t« doabtod wb«tli«r Mr. Street has conferred 
muv colifMivaB apan fau nntaioaal brethren at upon 
HttdMlB af (be hiiterr of ChiisCian art, bv tlic publica- 
I oTELt- TiAudaoaie and iiutractive voIum«> of whiiih the 
1 now befgre ait. Thu bouk is Lbe lesult 
LcUn^; that part of tbo duty which every 
:ii iiiA uLatiMT art is to itludy its ilcvdopments 
; ih«y are lo be »««n and whenever tboy con lind 
-lunitv .KotliiL: upon thia feeling, Tai. Street 
'our, and made aeveral long 
TDOKt of etttdyiog on the spot 
■'*■■'-;' in that conntry 
:!iL such wiiadcrs 
li, lourtecutb, and 
' I the subject 
I ; ^4;colldly, 

L^L Uiki arranged 

fonn of ODt eon- 

r,il rrtumi of the 

\ liLAlly, ^ives us 

'■ •.■t4 and buUdeiv 

Mn; .-.- . ...».- . -r hiJ worU. An 

lauUDft oiljdo^um o( ilatetl •'\aiti[il«<A, and 

!l|Mafah ^rrfiltrrH tnd ^^•^ll^^«. -iTitl <}'v\:'vv.- ^ illus- 

r L-on- 

.< the 


(Priutod for the 

W. n. Hooper: 

Ballad Society.) 

It is vitb unfugncd satififaction that we concrntiilale 
the .«(ub.4crib«ni tu the Ball*! Sociotr on tli nu 

of tha book before ua. We du 8o, nut t< it 

blTurdi cvidtncti that better coun&«lii ana pr>^. ^ ... the 

manoiccmcnt of the Society, but also bcc&ose the book ia 
exactly such a book as the Rccii'tv was established for 
the purpose of printing. Of tli- ': ; intercut of the 

well-known collection of Roxl- ! . ibL-rc cnn be 

no QUBfltion.and that thulr caiu..; ....... ::.j.liou wrill be a 

ffooa nervice to titcratare is eaualiy evident. Xur \» it 
less erfdont, from the s|)ecimen before o-s that Mr. Chap- 
pell will ocoompliijh this desirable object. The Port now 
iHoed <-<>ntain.4 no teas than forty-four balladx, very 
varied in tliuir character and merits, but all valuable as 
illu-^tralions of old manners, cnatums, feelingn, and modes 
of tliouitht. They arc severally inlmdnced by literary 
notices ; fur thu mont pjut briff, t>ut to the poiul, and 
containing ju^t tin.' infunnalion which the reader expects 
to receive from a Jndiclou.4 editor, which Mr. CbappeU 
has proved fainuelf to be. Xur ought tlie fuc-similes of 
the woodcuts to be passed o>'or \«-ithout notice. Thuy are 
capitally executed, and add to the interest and value cf 
ft book, which is alike creditable to the editor and to tba 
Society, and wiD, we should think, be the meaaa of 
securing many new names to the Uit of ilit mmibers. 

Tha Academy announces the discovery, by Mr. Thomas 
Wright, in the Library of Corpus Cbristi, of an alpha- 
betical VocabulaiT with Anglo-Saxon expIanatioD», which 
Mr. VVriiL,'bt consfdera of Che eighth ceotury. and to have 
been orif^nally composed for the uj* of the clergj* of 
Canterbury (.'atheilml. It will be printwl in the second 
Tolome of Mr. Wright's Collection of Vocabularies. 

An attempt is being made to renew the agitation fur 
throwing open the Heading Boom of the llritish Moseum 
in the n'eain^, and the inBuence uf Farliament Is to be 
evoked in furtherance of the Bchcmc. Wc hope Parlln- 
ment, the Government, and the Mnsenm authorities, will 
w«U consider the dAngers which would attend tnich a 
proceeding, and how utterly would be the loss which n 
fire would entail upon the i^reat National Library. If 
any attempt in to tre made to supply fttudt-nt^ in London 
with an evening readiug-room, it sbould Iw in an oatab- 
liifhment distlnet and separate from the British Mtueum ; 
but to the fomintiim of whirh the Mu-vuni might be called 
to contribute all books uf K'^nernl intert-sl of vrlucb there 
are duplicates in tlie National Collection. 

CulenJur of tht ClaremJo* SttMte Pomt* yrfttrotd in tht 

Botileitm Library, Voi. 11.^ from tkt JJmatli of Charin I. 

1G49, to tht end pf ikeTtar KibA. Ediud hy the Uer. 

W. Dunn Macrav, MJk^ iou/«r (Ac direction of ibe UuV. 

II. O. Coxc, M'.A., Bodley's Librarian, (V-lareudou 


AhhiiHuh the second volume in point of arrangement, 
thip U Ih'.' first Uiupd, and the cdiior vi-ry naturally iiud 
propfrrly n-— rvp^ !ii?> ar-connt of the growth of the ounoo- 
lioii < " :■ il, atul litnv '■ ■ '.hu 

pyfN tf Oxford, to 

ni» L. , -- ':i: .'M ray, who ha.. ,- , - ' Uia 

calendar lu general accordance with Iho Laii-udara o( 
Stnte Papers publlahetl inuti^r the direction of thu blaster 



[4*S.V. Ja». 15,*T< 

cf the Rolb?,acplainshotr^mneh time hu been TwrafJed 

iit thf flrrniiy^mi'-nt snd 'Rcorp'>riifirtn f^f n !«Tp* majs of 

■■A papcn 

U. .; •- .. .....;u. . . ^...,. u.- . ..: in^tflnce. 

ainuriK^t llt<**»? nre wme very interMtin;^ leapm showing 

'h<*w, it! "T^te of a prtrtTiisG or non-InterftTunce whifh sho 

I [Iic Kin^, llc'nrictta Mnria was fn^leavouring 

Diikfl nl (^. loucestiT iut« a Jtfjiiit Cnllc^^. and 

.-: ... , . ^.> convia^iou to the Church of lioino. 'Ihut is 

onty one of tb? inanv' curi(>in points illastnitcd ia the 

pr'^^fnt volume. There c*n be Uttlo duulit of the ^reat 

Ji Mr. MAHTAy'ii iudicioiuly cxL-cuted C«lcndAr, 

t .Ii* iu'lcx, irill proTe, when conipleled, to oU 

I -.1 LLudtlltB. 

BootUI RkobiVKDi — Veatiffu of th« Uixtoric AngU*' 
JIvbrev in JCuMt Angiia, ieitli .'Sj^nrUce* and anAtJtujmg 
'£iuijf by tli( Kov. M. Mar|>otioiUb, tUD. Ac (Loog- 
mnna.) A cnrimi^ ruay on a bronze Teuel of (^roat an- 
•liqiiity, witli Hebrew in!icripti()n.», which the Author 
'fiC'dtcniL? vra£ used for Ui& collection oralm^.^ , , 

Thf. Citrroche Party; hrina liUrary I^ttimatet of 
PoHtical Franre, hy B!aiK'h«rd Jprri»l<l (Hott^n), consiatA 
of a saries of cketebea of t)io luetlitxU and funnti of 
political eontontiou amoog our Dclghbours, written with 
irewloiti and ability. 

Erttmmation of CbmcimM upim $pefutl Sul^jeft*, trans- 

lotrd and ahrifi^id from the Frtnch of Tntnacin, t*iiteil by 

the Rer, OH>y Shipley, M.A, (Rivington), ia a new 
vtilunie of "*'riie Aiiceiie Library." Tlic autbor was 
Superior of the Seminary of Su-Sulpico ; and the trans- 
*ltion has been cnn.Mdrrably abridged in AubaUinee. and 
rJiolIy rc-ananKod in form, to make it more praelieally 
'twcfuf to English cliurcbineo. 

'I'be 5iecond part of Mr. MAct.KA7t'<i " Parochial History 
ComwaH,** "The Deanery of.Minver," id nearly cora- 
plelcil, and will very soon be delivered to tbe subscribers. 

A Translation of Bibliophile Jacub's (I'aol Lacruix) 
i]c«elUkiiown work on " Tha Art* of the Middle A^s and 

the RenaiKiAnco Period," illustratnl with cbroroolitbo- 
f*ra)ih<t and numerous woodcuts, ia announced byMiwaKs. 
CiiAPMAS (fc Ualu 

Lo!<DOx AMI Minni.ESKx ARcn.«oLocrcAL Sociktt. 

FThi' *Priei of evcnin},' meetingn for the present year coro- 

jcnccd on Monday laat at University College, (jower 

:n>et. and will flaWquenlly bo held, ka heretofore, on 

tbi< v>-<:uihI Monday iu each month. Among tbe papers 

'for the eeiitfious the following promises have already botui 

received: — "The la«t Ten ^oars of llalliwell Priorj',*' 

by the llcv. T. Hngo; "Sir Williom Harper, Mayor, 

l,^^flI," by Mr. J. Ciough Xichola; '* On Andcnt Miisit-al 

InHtnimpntJ'," Mr. J. Such*; *'Tbo Ilolbourue," Mr. J. 

B. Waller ; ''Rcniarka on tho Condnits of Old Lotidoij/' 

A. Whito; ♦• St Renet'B Church, GratDohurch Street," 

Ir. T. Milbourn. Hon. Sec; " An Account of the Alder- 

icn of ttie variou" Wurds of the City of London, from 

'275 to the pr^BL-nt Time,*' Mr. U. B. Orridgc; "Some 

'artit^iiltrs of the Public Career of Alderman Sir Uo^jer 

Inrlin, Miutercf tlwMinI," Mr. B. B. Orrldge; "Tavern 

SSiyns and :>iunhoardV Mr, W. H. Overall ; " Memorials 

Of the Great Firo of Ixmdon," Mr. J. K. Prioe. 

CumosiTtES OF Tire " Po«r Ofkicb Lomoom Diiikc- 
T*>rtT." — In the Comuivrcial Department of the new Post 
OjTtvv Lo/uliiii Dirtftory, -vthich h.i'i just been [iul>IiHhciI, 
^d n 2,3\)i pag«« in rxtonl, Ih'tidrs 3fH» raotv of advcr- 
ti««*mi'nta^ the family of Brown or Browne reaches nboDt 
8fi0 ; the Joncflca appi^r i>) be a Uttlo in cxeesa eTcn of 
tti/it number ; whilo tho Smiths, Smyth-^ and Smythe.<i 
muster, at luut, 1,600 "trong. There are at least 4aO 

I Whites and al>ont 3&0 Greens to only 2i Blacks tttdi 
I Gn»y*, though the other variety of that mlour o«n 
I dace a roll of about 100 uumca. The *' KnigbU"'iiBp 
the "Days" occupy a HtUf- under two columns eachi 
and the Johnious, Johnston^ "' ■' '< '"-fonca, i 
a little over tix. columns ; lb"r . four 

of RoUrttfcs. four colantiis of I: 
more of Thompions and Tom- rnt 

nearlv four rolumn.<i, the Wnri .f 

the Woods another four. The !. - . . 
reaches a column; but tbe«e arc nearly all 
In the ** Court" Directory, of course, t'lieM pi 
are not kept up in a oorrpAponding dc^rfo, th 
there there are aix columns uf Smitha— in otiwr 
toUl of 600. 

Dr. Lef, thf? late Bishop of Mnnches(er,hailiequ«albe4 
hift extensive library, which is said to be unarnaUr i^~ 
In valosble cdillons'of tho Holy Scrtptur«a, to tli» r 
of Owens College. 

Uebrbw LmwATrnK. — It is prc-jposed, «ayi 
Academy^ to form a society for publishing In * 
form the most ■■ ■ -: : • r: inentaof Jowish io* 
in tbe \u»i iri dcvclopnieiiL 

will be tran. . with the original 

public lccturi--i uill hI.-k> hu oreanHed* and 
meetings. The sobK'ription v. ill be one 
nualiy. Commnnications tobeaddxcMed lo K.E.I 
B.A.. 15, Belize Stjuare, X.W. 

Tho appointment of Mil W. B. Rtt '♦*'■■ ""'bne 
book of vitrr conaiderable interest, *' I 
ToMignflra in tho [laysof Kbzabeth an.. 
a* Keeptr of tbe Printed Book^ til iLc Britisb Ml 
h n moat .'wiisfactory ono. It would hnvo bcon a lUBtcr 
of deep regret if, with «> many of their own officers 
way fitted for the office, the autboritios had lelcctod i 
outsider for this important place. 

\Vc are glad to bear that Mii. UicnAT<i 
the UanuRcript DefMrtmeut of the BritiJih M 
it will be rtracmherftd, was selected ab the ArchiWiiygJiit i 
the Ahys^iian K3|M*>lit)0tt, haa been appolotod to| 
coed tho Inte .Mr. Woodward as Libnuriui unit Koaptfl 
the Prints to Her M^eaty. 

TitK Society's second volorao, Hoi 
" fcones Biblfcat," will be lAsued to tbe membcn i 
iauDediatcly. _^ 



ru-tlcuWf of Trice, &c.,*of t)ie fliUmrlnff Books to be ttnl dlMll 
llicci-nrlrtTim hj- whnm iTiey »n irijulretl, «1u«w u»m» ftad 

nir , :.-•■- ,..( „ 

1 .Hi*i«nT. Vnl. II. Loadon* t. 

^ii>j , M ui * rmiuoMin. Loadtnii J, 

Wuloil Ur -Hr. i. V^flJ frtnltiuff, I>s(l4fa«laii,l 


Wanted by •^^'•u. Po«t OSes. HowtfCft. 

kfOK^riwi rOHT. Uwch a, ItCkH. 
UlVVKLBT EXPOaW, Auptat R. 1IU7. 
WnotoJ \ty h. X. " >utc< ti «i>icrt«>*' " l>ni««, U, W«UlaffWI ■■ 

Oauiaatni's Cnao'vm.e, tKa. Baimd m unNwnd. 

Waulnl by Mr. J. Wntiamln/. Rltlvcd«t4, MjukIii 

£ncn\'«d Portrait of 8ir Jn»»i ti < 
(linl ia lAl'j, Tiitm Ut« uruniifti , 
Waotod by the Rtv, JvAm .' 


tlrtsnw't HmronT of Wilthkirc 

Pkxsast'm JttciuEKT TO Alstu:* Mooii. 

mai)iM~9 BrnLiooaAi'nicAL WoKsa. Anr i>f <b«m. 

llBS. BltUM'S I'LATS. I VoU. 




11 orDauTfiiiu, 

Man or grintad. «Uh UlumiBalkw. 

i> wiiUtitil mjr in(," 

I'r^fH*/ rfui'liiii) lA< tuuvrr. T^t 

(• i.F- in (Ar t'Murtpt 

tfdcut frimilittlp conltl pIm* 

.IP f< »!i*i- I •lit tl.»l hr l.t\e» 

■.-•t-tftft. f't.r ih' 

' (V vutr »r« "S. * Q." 

?p. Mi'.,,i..'i i« «u(icr<i|it ">'. fc^"»ii 

imtf^rmmf^taa* UHe ef hit *-o4l Anol." 

■ihenof-W. kO.'"!* ivnr 
I I7rw«m«ii. piKc It. U.i 

^ Q." ai«r W hul of Die 

n nti Ff]IT>tV.*nit U mIhi 

FRANICB.— A qminlUv if Originai "FfiANKS" 
aro ofltrv.l for SALi:~»f Koviittr. I'ttn, u4 OaaupGaaer»..«x- 
trmltiK; liver |tO rear* lurvl'irt* t^ tWir aUilItlan.— Fnr « lUl UiilMr* 
tkulnv. wJdrwIt. M.. rare ufUA. THOMAS R£ED. ft. OnM Pait> 
land Hinat, l»n<lxio. W, 


<i>tiivin| tht TtxXh, nod Uni«rUiic ■Mtorftl 


Prtpuml frnin 1 rw-lK •* ""1 '■? fw UaVux It whlt^ni and 
prucrvu tlw Tvclh, uid Uiiii*rt< h 'Mtldow fnucr««ce Ii> ih* brvMli. 

For ftopptpir Oa^iirvd Tvtifa, rcndtfi* ibfl Tootb womlinducful 
nail i>f*«viiU TiMiUtaclic 

fioi.D nr ALL chi:mi8T3 in evkey tuws at 


M E S 3 R 9. a A B R I E L, 

■4, I.urMJATEIlIlX. UfNOOIf. 


192, Fl«l Street (Comor of Chancer}' Lane). 

!8«vrK PAPBB,OrtMnoTB!a«,3*..U^a» .«tiilA.. |**Te«m. 
ENVtU>PfiS,Cw»morBUie.O-*rf.. a«. frf., uwlfti. fci. jw IjlUk 
Tlir. TEMPLE EWPT- in:. vUh lliBh Ittucr Flap, J». i-cr iOO. 
STHAW PAPK!' > i.Laliiy.lj.CJ, ptrrcAm. 

F'XH.SC AT, n I 'I'*, A-. («/. p«r nvn. 

UT \t'K-i\''V.T' (•.aoilfU. M. per rcnra. 

i i tpES, Ij. p«r lOO-Suprr tWek doklllr. 
Uijine or Forclm CwntriniKlcaM (flvt 

COLOUKLD >TjUiJl'INi; .iWUer', reJucTil to U. M. per raam, or 
Hr. «/. iM!T l,cuu I'l^llthnl Hii^tl Crdt IMca ctttrarcd from &«. 
>l4Nnirmn*.l«t) Iri'^n, rriun «j.| ttinc latlrn, fhiin T^, Bvducia 
ur A<Mkm Dif*. ttum 3/. 
SERVOS PAPER, plain. U. per ream) RtiWdilln. 4*. fct 
ftCIIOOl. STATIONERY niTflWil od Ibc tnorf Ubenl teimi. 

riiMtrstnl PrkiC IA< of InkMaDiU, D«lpateh Bona. Stmtiemtrr, 
ratOnai, Pvat«(* Scak% WiUins l«Ka. Poftrait Albun*, ka., pgrt 


Klebler CompaoT*" Sxtraot of Meat* 

A li 

r.,.>rj. ■■ ,. . ,r.. 

'!jii>iiri.>l il<il-ti» &l Tj'/, M'vl L-<iiiiv'iici'.| ami 

'rc« fcr Irf. a immt JQUrmt- 

Ucmaiaa' la ragMncdJurtnaimlMiefl abroad. 


, ( t:«THB*«.Tr,a-an'irai'.1lf*. 


£Mal4I*.*)t4 1«or. 

< Iv tort wtnantpj acnulit« \ty Die Invcntui, Barou 
i.i'.'r-iir. wjiiK- ^iffratnreli on cmry (rniilttf Jar. 
AakrjrMEBIG COMPA^V* rXTRAfT. ami notfinrHWlO** 
KXTW*/T o» UUT. 


rr-niTR's moc-jiain lkveu truss is 

M - V 10 telhsuMrt 

MA. Ttennof 

la •«« hatMKfc 
Hfinc » ■ ■ '— ■ '" '" "^n- 

nWlchrn Ml 

tluriqpti" ""'t 

eannoil'.'n t . 11 inv i-ic ivij. 

t*u ui^c* balow the 1 < 

MB. JOn>* UL . y. 

l'tl«e ff a PInrio Tni", la* . r.j«*« !». 

Double TruH, ai<. W ^w I*. ("7 

Ail VTinhUiiJ Truai. ^ . . u. iivt 

Pom Offloo onkn to t« iiuulc paj tdle i^j JulIN WHITC, PlocadOlr. 


Vj VAHtCOSI V> I . r< of WRAJCKE-tJ* mJ RH*RL. 

T.ING ofHi*l>EOfl. '■I iluyrar»nc«fmii.Ii«hi(ni«ittMPf, 

aud ineri«iiUT«, an4 • ke aa mdlaaiT ■i>H:kin);. I'rica 

fnMnti.fcf..7«.«d.,1fe.. .V - -. .^ .1. I'g*U«e(W/. 

Ai\U i^lLi-L^ixiij^:*. 


llAft BKHK rAin I»T TIIK 

Kailway Passenger^' *^ lace Company, 


: \- .■ 

' L>Mtli, aad «n 


An AtiniuJ T^ ' 

Fur pwtiruliu . . 

M,0ORMIILL. »»d 1", riEG£>T aTJlE^ T-J^RDO^. 



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SqiMirr. IxiitJon, W.V.— iktulMUum d-. Uoim tntm lu. ii. Gluboi**, 
111 Bfitllct. from X#. 


^^^^^^^^^ pTVsaaacwt br Cnnnoljnmr* 


^^^^^^^^ ImpToni the ■pp«lM« mnA «ld> dieulloa, 

^^V Tnnir\'AUj;D lou piul ancy asd flavour. 



^^V Aud MC tbe Mftwa of LEA AND TERniXS c« ftll bottin uil labeU 

AVBntt-CRUfiSE Jt BLACK W ELU Lomb>u, uil m>UI W aU 
PriUfi in Saoon tbtuticlxml the n arid. 



BOLD br aU STATinKERS throvituNit ill* WorI4. 






IIh peenlisr nd kibbi^ . ■^m, or Blllotii 

B l uh tt m. PWTtn tin t inl .. > IVvtr*. «ntl )• 

idaltWd lir «U iMcn t- tabic, TiUiUlns 

Brrcntcr. Said nr iiT--<)t viiyiuj<i<, inii rn« mttker, 

B. LAMPLOUGII, lU, Uolbon Hill, Loodoo. 

□ un<lrt<l< can now te«l fy to th« VDndcrfuI cucweu of 
rox'8 WOTED FOHUtlJi. 
Wbhdl vuai'uiteM Ulibkr-Tv, Ac. tn rn>* hcttrilj In <Jt «fvkt to Itte 
wn ooth w l f%ix wiOiuut iojuruig the (JUn. uid a lura llvtnttlr foe Bald- 
MMi U •tanit.a. 

im. J. FOX, MaccUdkM. Choiilic. 
CtuMun tSvi* 2i»ntt and Aildr«». 


iNNEFonn'.'^ FLnp 5r\.;yF,'^TA riw i...«t 

r»ftnr"l> ' ■ 

Dims. lit A I' 
mild ■i«iicM r. ' 
ClilLDAEK. M»i i .w .1 . 

lUVKEf ORU Jk CO., 171. New Burnt Btracl. 
And of mlt ~' 




■n1 wHIi rvawiii. 'I'lirv (^imtalBi.-l 

'XI* dla- 


' >'!•- |i>mI«, 

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AttheThlr1)r-flnh A(.. 
yoan ami npwanla In tut 

rtrniloin (iKNi rati 
'I Dcr Cent, for Uie 

Ai^ iu I\iUr} . 

1 Oriri.MilPr^ 

1 wiwoi tw laii, 

fi« Iha Veaf. 

yet Vrnniom 

ftuilie Y«0. 

' i .. ./. 

1 1 IN ft 

1 fl U It 

X f. ft, 
• t9 4 
1 « ft 

1 r ft 
« a ft 


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li,., . - 

the Sneifi; 
LAY U I'm 

[ ivlln art rraniedj 
i:t l^twliMi. ur al " 

.Wcx-iutij niar b* (it 
I. B.CoiufJUMiw.Ol 

I f,i:i'K, li 

Tl'i:iK?<. ActnarT' 


At'! . it itnhtmmUM], 

W'" and oura 2t. peri 

<ir <-. rarrtan paid to Ml 

and ^V■I(-l. l-<r '^ i.M>? . 11 pi\U. irut Inchidnti niDal la T 
llf. 4f. AMWnffof I*, ytrdoan. Jtaavw arrtef* paid »<i il 
land ami Walv. J<« Uuwln CftA»9i diui. Mwk tnclMleO), i 
14d<>Mn.>l/. lt#, A MriBc of fa. |i«v dflMB. AMiwafaRSlai 
all Iriiclanil and Walca. 

W. D. WAT.«OX, Wine tmiMMrtrr, TXand n, OfMt HomO 
oi>rucriirBI<iMlul>arTSi|tiatt:.I^iuik>u. W.C. 
£4tablklwd Ml. FuU frloe Lui* poH ft«c <m wmltwItT, 

OLD MARSALA WINE, ^mmnMc^i thu 
inipnnril. rrrr fTAm acidity gi heal, and inucb nip«ru>r 
prlcrd|(t;< ' 1' L.innnCV9r>rr(«M). OMOnii 

Arcnuliii. V'trtSte. ynr dAWB. TafMaoMlL 

laRpkJd- >S,Wlu(>Meftdiant,n andn,l 

Btrect.eon > -iiy jlijnaic, Loadun. W.G — btobll* 

1- uil I'rlce LUt« poifc free oo BiqiUcatlaa. 



AxaU, per dattn,RI ft»r « G«citIrmBTi'« Tabic. Fl-ittlc* 
CarrUifG iwid. Caio* X*. pat doicn runt i rrLimiAblei. 


il'tMit 0(lli« OnVn bn PknulUlr). 1. Oiii|«t Street ^nC. 

MATiTAin, TT.. IX?.X1X>N. 



EDGES & LUTLER salicit &Ut-atio& (« 

nut ftT. jn.ltN CLAKET 
At lb., JQ*., tU.,ac*., and XU. prr dmsn, 
Ck£k» CaatcU Iff vNf 4.>u« cn)«-tlia. i»^ 4Afl. . OQi^ 79b., Mm! 



At M*., :i 

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CONTESTS.— N« 106, 

An Vnpuhlitihed !*■«? in tht I.if^ of Lnudftr, B3 

1... ii..i,.i,,.. ,,,, • n ^'xiirt AlUr, b3— RAinwy'fl "BFor- 

iityof thf Word " Pirtt*"." 87 — 

. — Tim Girmfr*- - Giirfftrobe — 

...,-,. ...tJ KUmtiir* — Weather 8«yinei 

. mt Kieur Cfcibednl — Orifia of Ibo 

; i 1 ir in th** Kcw Tear— Burial-placp of 

n I. onljClilkl of KInv Klchanl lit.— 

I h - I, Lndy"— L'hesUr Pimilj — Wiltiaai 

lU-S (I 1 .iMi/iiMiff -i_'.>tt!o Family- PutUl'! Hfll — 

nrh Cfffiii'. — (in.vicr am] Stow Pmint lies — Gmttnruii 

I('1i'is iiM'l Donald Lord Rear — Un. Herrey— Hnmcr 

— Royal DovoeniorttM Maoduffi — Thfi Name 

■'« — Motto — Ncffroes inAmt?rim— Poem — 

^ppool lMini>iit— lUloirh FamilT — "Re- 

, Kiitiira"- RchI KamilT- WakHldd. torkahins 

11 Wj-nne. Si'rJcant-at-Lavr- X«hopbo(i, 80. 

■ <-''TT Avswuist— HufclKri Ball Uuffhea: ifae 
: "—"Off" or "On"— Labarum — Mallon 

^t Terouonno. M — Calodonlan 

Marryinfi. W — Biblioffrauhy of 

>rn 8ou. 97— Sir William &tra^ 

Crtsti. ,'S — £>uko of Schomberv's Mon«- 

Jaaes Bluett — " Snnkes oonapicuoas by 

' '' - All unnoticed PrajTiuvnt by Di*-ftn HwifC 

'hi ; I (Irb — (imld of Haaonii at KaverBhain 

«»' r Ur. Watts — "Th« Porcit School Ma- 

; ■ in a lYwiUyt«rian Church — Satyro, 

]>uli>BUca on the Amiuwments of Clersy- 

-Thn Laurrato'i Molto^ ftc, 101. 


.— ••■ll.r 





In the year 17C1 the literary world of London 

diAturbed by a publicntion bearing tho name 

"iUiam louder, in ^vhicb the nutUeiiticity of 

»e |>i*^ni of PnrtidiHc Lost waa chalk'ngc^d. 

i'.M- WilUaui Lauder was a Scotch echool- 

I ^ to have combined (in einuU- 

' rary cfaarlataD;, Maophcrson, of 

*»•-■, iti II "lou'.'ty) ingenaity and effrontery in | 

e^aal proportion ; for so eloquently did he 

^ ftir truth, and so powerfully reprpsont the 

tzoinorlal author of Paradise lAtfi as a plaj^arist, 

ftfr convincing nine-tenths of the f^ormor 

^ in John Muton that the great poet was 

jit all, but A rhapsodiat, a stringer of bor- 

:'t?arl», a writer of " centos," ho actually I 

tbe pcrupuloua Dr. Samuel Jobnuon him- 

tt preface to this Scotch farrago, 

ted in eSect to an exposure of the 

lesty of the man whose name alone 

to be coupled with that of William 

This preface was a crowning device. 

I the mort refipectfthlo authority and 

!'-• uf his day had endorse! Lauder's pam- 

luw-'d the greatest confiirHon; for when 

roarpd, the other animals bad learned to 

■ ir peace. Unfortunately for the learned 

^ 6eiUeiLUoasDB8B, matters epeedily took a 

turn which proved the fallibility of the oracle 
and the impositions of ite priest The unworthy 
pedagof^rue waa detectedi and punished in propor- 
tion to tbo enormity of the fraud. The Kev. 
John Douglas (then rector of Eaton- Cone tan tine, 
in Shropshire, and afterwards Lord Bitthop of 
Salijibury, to whom Goldsmith alludes in hia 
" Itetaliation," aa '* the scourge of impostors, the 
terror of quacks ") came out in indip-nauon against 
Lauder in a conclusire pamphlet (1751 ) entitled — 

"Milton rindicatod from the Chirge of Placiari!mi 
hrouffht apainRt liim Iit Mr. I.andor, and Lauder himself 
con\-ictcd of «vtral Korgerie* and groaa IinpoitiLiunx ou Ibe 
Public, in a Letter bnmbly addressBd to the Ri^hl Honor- 

Dr. Douglas was successful in his attack against 
and exposure of Lauder's interpolations, and ao 
confounded the impo!)tor that an apology, alao 
written by Johnson, who must have felt Ibimself 
not a little compromised in the matter, was pub- 
lished, and addressed to the worthy rector, in 
which louder confrnscs to the intcrpolatiotia, 
though ho gives no fiatipfactory reason for the 
frautJC He pleads a species of insanity diverted 
into deception, while he repudiates all vindictive- 
ness agamat Milton's poetical or political fame. 
The whole apology is remarkably lame, and has 
none of that strength and firmness of tune which 
charactarises Johnson^s writings. Sir John Haw- 
kins owns that he cannot reconcile the two contra- 
dictory opinions uttered by Johnson upon Milton's 
character and works, and it must oe confessed 
that, primdfavie. the learned doctor stands con- 
victed of inconsistency. Rut wo must refer our 
readers to the account of this remarkable episode 
OS it is jpven in IJosweirs Life of John9on (edit 
Malune), and to Jolmson*s Phihlogical and Mis- 
ceiknteou9 Tracttj where preface and apology are 
printed side by »ide. This exposure bad the 
desired effect His friends disgusted, and the 
literary world incensed, Lauder waa compelled to 
quit his country, and after some wandering he 
sought shelter in the island of Barbados — a spot 
famous as a refuge for many important (as well 
as unimportant) olTcndera. Victims of political 
persecution in tho matter of the Jacobite causo 
escaped and wert> exiled thither continually, till, 
as Cnrlyle has it, the name of the place and the 
denomination of the punishment became iden- 
tical ; for the phrase of warning to ofiTenders was, 
" We will Barbados them." 

To return, however, to Ijinder: this worthy at 
first opened a grammar-school, but either fulling 
in this speculation, or with the desire to dismias 
any sABociation with his former life, he took a 
huck.iter's shop in the '^ Roebuck,'' which he con- 
ducted with the ud of an African woman whom 
ho had purcbnfied, and by whom he bad 
one daughter, Rachel, afterwards celebrated as 
*' Hostess Riilirreen " of the Roval Naval Hotel. 


[4* & V. JUjUI^ 


tftudcr*8 coinluct to hi8 oRsprioff wm what 
ilBif(bt hare Ic^n expected from tij- '1 
<flfibcto prodaced an the mind W the ] 
to na ovor our fellnw-oreatureB by h 
in Uindajfi*. Thr ties of blood wi^pp : 
the outlnwity of ihfl^r. and in hir- uivti-.m. i 
lender only rpoogiiipcil the plftTe. The girJ, \^v:- 
oveT; to hor honour by it Bpoli<»ii, K' "'^"i 'mb 
nuuiatural ftdvirru-ea ao TOCcwfefullvi \'-- ', 

ennip»Hi at her inBub^rdiimtiun, ordin . -. n- 
happy dftuphter into the bands of one of the 
miTL^uarv ■'whippors'' — n. c!a*8 now long ex- 
tincl— ^ith imtractionR to fldmini«t&r castjgation. 
Jlacbel was alreadT liwaitinc tho lire t blow, lied 
up oiiUido thn shop-door, wBfn, to the (flory of 
romanre, an oS\cqx of the BHlish navy who wba 
p(uaing nt tho momojat ruahed upon Ibo rdent- 
\^Ki exQCutionerf toru th? whip n'om bia bands, 
And Ciuriedoir bodily iho r«icutHl vidiui, 

The oniier in qapsUon, this " Deus ex maobinA," 
woa no othnr tlmu (Captain Pringle of H.M/e i^bip 
Ct'iitaur, who, not many ypats afterwfirdS; was 
bisifelf alinnert itiimctiion^lyflavpd from shipwreck. 
lAodcry irritnVjd niid provohod that bis Tictini 
faitd thus (irtftpod^aail n^wing her now ineielr an 
a fiUre, f {iUgkfi'reriiieM of the mptain by enuring 
him to he invested' nndfr the "l^ptinuR Atft." 
But nT.-aliiu}!^ oar haro purobaEod Knch*^ from 
ber father at an exorbitant price, and manumitted 
faor. iNor did hiH protK'tion of ibe inlerc^fiu*^ 
joung (rirl ^nil h«iv; be «i4abUshed bcj in a 
amlUl boufe at tbo lower «Dd of the town, which 
br her industry- was nft«rward9 enlarfred, and it 
ulliiiiatvly became the oeiebrated bote) of which 
wo haT« mndo nu'Dtiba, and the tt-mpotary resi- 
lenco erf a piinca Wliosucceftded to the throne of 
Gireat Butam and Jrfibind iindorthe'ntyle and title 
o£ ** William iba Fourth." Oi'tain buoynnl traits 
in this dieiinguishcd pcreonagoV habits rr Intrng 
to our heri'inc Kflcbel will be recorded in tbcir 
place. Suon after her eKtablisbmenl in bii^ineBti 
vtlDo ptncodilh), of which ^ho wax lb« prime 
dffeot* >o iartTififd CaptHln Piinglo that Ire un.ilte 
oil' any furllicr intorcooTse with his protc'g^e, and 
shortly saiicd for Jamnica ; and it was when 
bomewnrd bound from that island tlint the Cen- 
taur foimdered at f^tut, ami her commander, with 
eiprht or nine nf tho surviving crew, after endnr- 
ioyr unp.<ralltiMi auHpriiippt hi the long-boat^ 
rearbi»d Kujilaud in Bafety. 

iUchid, howBTAr, did not reiuee to be com- 
forted beraiise of licr Inver's def^erlion, but sur- 
rendered nt disioretion to tho Dopuly-T*roT08t- 
Marshnl falfrreen, who bestowed thai addition to 
ber name bv which alio was erer nfteiward? 
kwrwn— R«^nel Pringle M^een. She now 
began to gi\ 
indue time tiii'.a ita- 
of ber hotel. 

TTofitess Palgreen was in her plory when 

■ \^. of that I'lnbonpomt which 
' U) ihoev dimeuaiona wbicb 
great nrm-cbair at the door 

iii:<i u nil- 


H 15 H very ifn m ih 
1^^ Spot for rniiein;? princfB to 
• n-j ai. At the time of which we write' 
WDS more wealth with which to give subst 
exprew-ion to loyalty than in th' .• f'r-^ 
days, Xot, bowovei*, to enttr Uj 
between the halcyon and tli-' tl. 
Bai-bndofl, we wiUp*^ on to 
lieoftenitnt wa« reeeiTed u; 
dinners, entertainments, f^tes public and 
nerpetnally succeeded each other, and the 
bitil West Indian profusion wna to be 
perfection. J foster Pal^en waa in Iho 
dejrfee imixTtant at tbifl Boason. and 
Bome of the crumba of Iho royal favo 
thitoWa to her as hotel-heept'r. Her tui 
in duo course. Flis Royal 1 rii:hnoss had 
pai^icul ' ' vifh the niesA 

40th T' V ation, and roll 

to the boit-i in ine oTciung rather niOT^ 
"half geas over," and awomiianied by 
choice flpirit* of both Bervicea, commenced 
frolic by btealtinff the fumittire, and, by 
operation of hia boon companions, carried on tbt 
intellectual sport with such ai.'tivity that in a 
couple Of hours every Article WR» rnrmJ.' de- 
mubdhedi the very beds were cot tli^ir 

couteuta ejected into the rtreeft. oi: u)iji« 

of a mimic Anowvtonu. Cracli went piecMgluM^ 
ohandelier^, and lamp^; amosh went d»clQBl 
gohl«U, mH^ nrockery— -all perifiheil in die 
while tho slyi impnasive llachol, like %. 
lUann«, Mt aoiid tlh^ mina of her hotel, ami 
at grief AHil counting th« danM^a. Ona 
another her Aervanta CAmo running to her to 
nouncn Eomc ivw outnge, but our stoical 
moved not. Ae each, commtinication w«s' 
hhe wuuld ^uile grimly and answar- 
man! aiul ho ]dD|jr'» aou P if he oo dn w1 
lilu, 1 likn for koow who con do *etn I lut 
'lone, hit he ^muae hf^elf-^daoua king'4 
bless ho heai't ! " wilb many other like 
riona of indiflercnce ronpliKl witH i.iv.Jn 
wtiP, however, now limo for the y 
on 1u>m:>I, imd as he was alnio«t :..: . 
pii t and had litETfilly **f^* 

ul' , - ;/nn to think of taking: hisdej 

whuu lie oncountered K+n-hel itill t^tttini 
ha\e d"ierihod, r»1 tho door of hor d 
hotel. Th" temptation wns toii nuich 
prince iu hU then condition of hilii^ity 
crownin;; joUe^ he npset her ami ! 
iber and lan olf, leavin? hft 1 
prone ut her own thi " ' ' ■ Lhu 
aniuaumE^iii of the sniT" vd?. 

" Wn(t*n ftnd Thor. 



s evioced no ftigit of 

pa«le, Ijnt called oflftr 

ill her '. lea — *• Ma:S5a WiUium 

lu. COIL lo-morriiw 8t>o whnt 

Ub do I " and tU«n| nftur much 

fhc was n^inj^'fited. 

1 h«nrd tbat the 
n K41 fur St. Viii- 
J ihu cuiiccltvl U^'i-lri'.'tjils tugtfUier, 
ttietn to taltp an iu\eutor_y of tlio 
tUo privilejjw of 
• :a the sua vras 
;ni«i ni ;■ -ae of tlie witBl- 

Iiotel v\; ril -with a full, 

'■"•■" i)f ihtj Irtttf, Hcc. 

iiinity, tbi) dnm- 
i.._ ....iing sum ofsoviin 
|.I%^ Tho |:eutiioU3 priuce 
. .- liie corrtotiRsa oi" ib^- docu- 
iL her OQ order for tho fuU valujiliuu, 
*diilv ijuM. and llachttl WM thoriibv 

mdcr died very miacr&Wy iii Har- 
^cjir 1771. It. Kkecib. 


:itnfl are Mnlpturod on the cdpital rrf ft 

Ift* iiaauiD aluu-, dinlicnted in th^ god Silvannfi, 

-was r^rmlly found n«ir Stanhnpci, in tho 

4Hil>' m, and WHsdeAoribed nr tho Inst 

Wftsr. wfwowile Society of Antiquaries, 

-iU* iiAviiif^ been dedicated by the pra?fe'rt 

'MQiiirinua, whD wR:* in WoJirdftle in the 

u.'toT (iurdian^ it may be taken to 

-red between Sas nnd 24-t a. P. 

■Jiy of roninrk (Hithough not 

t of the present not^), that 

•4«ii- 7 »i T-.f. u'UH utL'd to th» name divinitv, vrm 

■]■) durvivtred ftt Stanhope. This nlur, \vltich 

Mm found ciB the moors near thar. phtce in 1 749, 

dediaUad by another J£omftn nrf(;fecfc '* on 

tiii kilUnir n very Ifir^ro boar." if a dfdphin 

<t«irr«d •hrj on thin nitiir, rotne connccthm of 

il witli the pod SilTRnua woiild be 

iWJ.* It oocura, however, vn two other 

4«dicftted to him, ilne of them was 

Ilnus-fiteiidfli, and ia now in the Museum 

' into 9ui-h a 
ii A ^ingtilu 
i^t' nitli itut 
Iiicli Ilorm-o 

.■r;-»lig tnvs or 

....;. ....... il nnim.' 

iiiiiu|ie when 
C-uoU. ffrit. 

of Uie Society of Antiqunxies at Newcottle; and 
(ho other is Ucntioned by iloniley to hare been 
found at the arijncent «tfltion of Caervorran. So 
that the dolphin appoars to hsTe a f<igniticai)ce, 
whether cocuected with Silvanna or not. 

In describing the alrnr to Silvnnua recently 
found at Stanhope. Dr. JJriico did not offer any 
elocidation as to the meaning of the dolphin, and 
merely said he had no doubt it was " symbolic of 
eome arttcU* of J'aith or of .some sentiment " ; sod 
he referred to its occurrence npon Etruscan cine* 
rfiry urn^ as (for example) on one in the Museum 
at X'olterrn. Ho 8iioire«led that, when nsed on a 
sepiilchnU urn, it may have " oxpresAcd the fleeting 
nature of human life." The aolphin nii^ht cer- 
tainly well Btand as an emblem of fleetnesSp for, 
aocordiug: to Phny, it is the swifteet of animals; 
but it can bariUy, wheu used on a votive altar, 
have hjtd the tii);piitjc&uce su^f^sted. 

But altliough there is not any iippRTent con- 
nection between the dolphin and the god of 
woodtt and boundaries, may not the following 
ooufiiderationa eluoiditte its occoiTence upon aa 
alcar dedicatod to that diriaityP To Siiraoiu 
thp Tyrrhenian PoIaa;;ian9 axe said * to bare 
dedicated, in the earlioet timea, a grove and a 
ftdtival; and the dolphin was actually called 
TuryhmHs pitcitt In consequefioo, aa it would eeem^ 
uf the labW about Diooyaua and tho inraleB.t 
PovMhly, Uierefore, iu the dedication o( this altar 
lo Silvnnuii, and tho detinaation of a dulphiii 
upon it, we soo the Titality of a Tyrrhenian tnW 
dition amoof^ the Uomaus of tho Empire. The 
faot that Ortiek lradition.s fell into oblivion after 
Tynhenia became aubJL'Ct to Komo (which it did 
five ceJituriea before this altar was dedicated) ha* 
no great weight in &B opposite direction^ for tlva 
Tyrrheni undoubtedly exercised great intlucncA oa 
tho itotuana, their modern hvaU. 

But, apart from Felasgian tradition, the dolpluti, 
id singularly euouj^U broufjcht into connection wilto 
Silvanxi* by the fact that the pod of woods andii 
Hocks ia described ns bein^ fond of music ; for>^ 
the dolphin bt^ctime an t-mblum of ApoUo, thft^' 
god of mufic nnd all the aits, by rea^ion of tliai 
god having, as it wiu fabled* once assamed the' 
form of a dolphin, it is remarkable, too, that it 
was believed, a^^ Vliny telUvUs in his Ntiinrnl 
Jliston/Xf tbat the dolphin is pleaded by mneiaT^ 
Again, aa the dolphin was the common symbol of 

• vITiifiV, viii. 6W) :— 

"f^Uvano finma «1 vetfrea sa«raMe Fclaiigoti, 
Arrorum pecori?i<^iue Doo," Ac. 

The ilr_5<'iiailiuiti of the Pclapgian IVrrheniant, comiiu* 
froiri thf .V.pcan StTi, broii;{l)t (it is to be rvmemtwredO 
jjurulr Gm-k relij^'ion and iuKlitutlona to Etnirla. 

4 The dolphin of the Pela.<^ may possibly Itavo soma. 
4*'>niifiniDn with Dagon, the fifb-coa of the Phllistin* 

{ Book IX. cb. riil 




[4«fcS.r, jAS.St.'TQ. 

•waXbTj and u Silrantu wai not only a sylran 
d«itv, but (lik» tfae god TermiiiuA; a guardian of 
Undmarkfl*, iU occurrence on bis altar may refer , 
to a rircr having constituted the boundary of the j 
tract h*:Te dedicated to Silvanue. I believe the 
altar was* in fact found near the bank of a stream, i 

The dolphin may, howcTer, well have a sig- • 
niii'^nce unconnected with Silranus. It wa^ i 
accounted the lover of man, ta we learn both 
from Ilutarch and Pliny. The dolphin which 
preflfTrf:d the life of Arion when he waB cast into 
the waro.) was commemorated among the stars 
and promoted to a constellation. Thus we read 
in (>vid'M episode of Arion t : — 

**Qu«in m'-Klo cjelatum stellu Delphina videba^ 
h fu^ift vuiu Docte seriucnte taos." 

And again — 

" l>i pia facta ridfint. ARtriB Delphina recq>xt 
Jupit'T, et Stellas juiuiit habere novrm/*^ 

Hence (as a noble and accomplished friend has 
■uggfssted to me) the dolphin on these Roman 
altiirn may pofisibly indicate that they were dedi- 
cated under the influence of the constellation 

The dolphin was commonly the symbol of the 
wsterp. Ill Greece it was therefore taken by the 
early navigators for their emblem, as the tunny 
was bv the Phoenicians. In the oldest mrstic 
symbolism, fish were the natural emblems of the 
productive power of the waters, being more pro- 
lific thun any other creatures. On Greek coins 
the bull is placed sometimes between two dol- 
phins, and in some instances upon a dolphin, 
while in other cases the Minotaur, or a more 
humanised representation of the god, occurswithin 
a scroll meant to represent the waters. So, per- 
haps the dolphin on the Hltar found at Stanhope 
may l>e an emblem of the adjacent river, end indi- 
cate tlmt iU waters wore frequented by sea-fish. 

I'he <io1phin was frequently introduced in an- 
cient urcliitHCture and sculpture. According to 
PaunaiiiftS , I the daughter of Ceres by Neptune 
was ri'presentcd, in a cave of PhigaU-, in Arcadia, 
holding on one hand a dolphin, and on the other a 
dovM— both creatures of mystic symbolism. The 
Mcdiwian VenuB, just rising from the sea, is sup- 
ported by n dolphin. From ancient times it has 

* An pni(H-ti>r of the limits of land, Silvanus is ad- 
(Imwr-d by IlDracc in the w>(*on(l cpodc — 
'* Qua miinorntur ti>, I'rinpp, ct le. Pater 
J^ylvniU', tutor linium.*' 

'I lii.H ipn\ occurs mori! than onre in Horace. Theoffcr- 
iii^N nimli' U* him wero. n(*(*i)nlinK to the season nnd to the 
ni'i'il for his a<«;iir.t;iii(*<>. 'Ihiis, for iticrfiiHv of f^rnin they 
oflTiTrd »';irfi nf corn ; fttr fntUrul vintaj;o. they made an 
olTi-rii);; of crniN-H ; and fur a liIctMnj; on their Uocks Ihey 
ollrrt'd milk. 

t /'ifj>/i, >HMik ii. 1. TH.and end of the tnln. 

} Ah ritcd in Kni};ht*!] Emui; <'» the Symbolic Lanyuage 
ofAnrirnt Art, &f. 

been, as it still is, a faTooiite ornament of foim- 
tuns. The columns of the Flaminian Cireu in 
Rome were wreathed with dolphins^ aa wa letm 
from J uvenal * ; — 

.** Coualit aote phalas ddphioonimqae 

It has been audt that the dolphin rigmiSed 
among the Romans dispatch in busineaB. Vm- 
pasian, we are told, oraered a dolphin twiiiiiff 
about an anchor to be represented on some of n 
coins, ** importing therebv both tardiiat and fiH^ 
natio'* A\ hatever may bave been ita orinn, Hii 
symbol (oi the dolphin and the anchor) liifl h^ 
come a very familiar one. 

The dolphin, when it occors on aepulchial 
or monumenta, seems to have quite another eab 
blematic meaning. In a tomb m the oemeteiy rf 
Peni^a is a disk with solar rays and a laill 
dolphin in relief — a representation, apparamyi 
of the sun rinng from the waves, ana an ifl 
emblem of resurrection. The dolphin is a 
ornament in Etruscan sepulchre^ and is anmnl 
to have a svmbolic reierence to a douue fik 
Mr. Dennis, however, sara that it has alio has 
taken as emblematic of the maritime power of fti 
Etruscans, and as marking a city which had I 
port, as it does on the coins of Volterra. 

It is worthy of remark that the dolphin 
on some of the sculptured stones of Seotlaad— 
those ancient monuments of ^e Caladono^ 
probably a kindred Indo-European iaM.t ttl 
dolphin so constantly meets us in Chisitin ad 
ana sculpture that it must hare aoqaind, id 
early period, a sacred symbolism. It was at 
the nol^ fish, perhaps from its legendary 
tion with Apollo ; out it acquir^ a holiflr 0t 
nification in the art of the CataoomlM if ths v 
phin was the IxfiU that stood for the name of tb 
Saviour.} Wx. Sii>nT OnHK 


The last edition of Allan Hamsay^s Evtrpt^^ 
I believe, that published in Glasgow in twy> 
1824. It is, I believe, simply a reprint of 
edition of 1704, which does not profess to be <i^ 
than a reprint of the original edition of 17!H 
edition of 1824 has a glossary, but all the < "' 
are without note or comment. The fiiet 
*' Hardyknute " appears in the second 

• Rat. vj. 589. 

t Horsey, Brit. Rom, p. 231, refers to lUi ii 
MrihinfT the altar found at Cacrroran, on wbift 
dolphin occurs. ^ 

X iDhtJinces at Upper Manbean, in Elgin, and** ■ 
Act h may be seen in the cngraringn given ia tlw Sp* 
Cluh ho'jka. 

§ Thi4 ancient anagrsni became symbolieal«f ^ 
because, ah id wuU known, the letters compoHflK |^ 
the firjtt letters of th« words IHSOTJI XPUlttf •** 
TI02 SfiTHP. 

— - d 

4*S;.T. J-iai.22,'70.] 



proTf« iliAt worthy AUnn was mistaken in statiDg 
u liU title-pa^tj tlint tbe puems were '*' wrote 
by Um iogeaious poet beforu 1000/' But this 
vt8 a mUtmri* wbicii nil the world Uy under at 
that time; and 1 believe that the mistAke applies 
to ••Hwrdyknulc'* ouly. Take it for idl iu all, 
77( '* -^i' is llio beet rolUction in existence 
ot ■'}', and in m; opinion a collection of 

th'j u*-'!-i Mil poems in our Inn^uag^. Connidpring 
bow many learrjf^d oml inj;4>nious men have given 
themee!"- ' • ' i'llrt'd loike, it is surprising Ihut 
thue D: and intoivftting volumes ^hould 

ta thia *!__. ~. -lII n& baru of explanation or illufi- 
tntioQ as when they Urst appeared in 1724. If 
A man a» Mk. Maepmiiixt would take the 
in Uaiidt giving us a new edition, he would 
an immense favour on the lovers of old 
llUiaiure. A new edition ought to give a short 
Uopr»phy nf Pnubor, Fleming, Robert IlenrvBon 

■peb f 



i: . 

ry Steward Kennedy, and the other 

rqoDS whose name? ftopear at the end 

tus. I confpps that I tnink the andent 

;ht be gut rid of with advantage. 

he peculiar Scotch spelling need not 

bft retainr^. There is nothing gained by using 

ttta letter i in the place of the letter y, or in 

writzne ifuhaf for icnai, miJttrt for whnij sche for 

* ' ' ' ': ScotliciEma. But my desire is 

;» new edition. I am far from 

■ 1. competent to advise the editor. 
l'» that thort' are matters in the book 

■ '"-esient dftv would not be deemed 

; but the class of persons who 

•ks would neither be demoralised 

shocked by them ; such passages are 

lis; and while Prior is republished 

aulo PurgftDti," &c., I confess that I think 

n'r bxik oup-ht not to bo mutilated. 

MUn had neither the learning nor the 

porcy; but The J^vtrpreen contains 

;. than Percy's Helit^ueg ; and if 

> wer«* piven to the world with 

V «3 to his Tii'ItqueSj Sir 

-r/sy, or Mftidment to 

hrtTfjrem would take it« 

'■.which hitherto it has not 

J. H. C. 


1 happen xd Xm thoroughly acquainted with the 

oc aiid tLt> clrcumstaxices of the case of the 

^ ' ' !iich certain citizens of 

'd tbcuideUea " eym- 

-■'.' :• 'Is" (as the insurgents 

■o»^l tfat i la, were crossing from 

•bor- .-. ... ' -> 'f^ N ft vy Island — a 

•hjh'iMvv'Jitii iver — and which, 

a*i r'. r n: , , : :. .^. was cut adrift 

•gt at Sch loader a Landing, and 

precipitated over the Falls two miles below^ in 
the mpht of December 20» 1^37. 

"Ilistoricus," in The Times of December .31, 
1800, quotes with approval Daniel Webster, the 
great American utati^sman, as, in reference to its 
employment on the British side by Mr. Fox, deny- 
ing the applicability of the word pirttie to that 

Now, it is true that Cicero (in his Z)« Offieiie, 
3, 20) says, not merely that a pirate is not a uelli- 
gerent {pcrdueUiSf on which word compare Cicero, 
Vff Off. \, li2, and Gaius in the Viffest, t. 50, tit. 16, 
leg. 234), but that a pirate is a foe of mankind in 
general {hodis humani ffeneris). 

But the Efiffhsh Didionary of Noah Webster, 
LL.D. of Yale Colfege, Newhaven, U.S., as edited 
in 1804 by Drs. GooiWch and Porter, profei^ors 
in that college, gives the following as a secondary 
meaning of the word pirate, a tertiary meaning 
being " one who infringes the law of copyright "— 

''All armed ftbip or vessel which sails wttbi>ut n legal 
cnmmission for the purpose of plandcring other veaseU OD 
the high KM." 

Probably this secondary meaning was given In 
order to make the word pirate applicable to the 
Alabama; at all events it suits that vessel as re- 
garded by the United States. 

At the same time it virtually suits the Caro- 
line, for the omission in her case of " the purpose 
of plundering other voasols *' must surely, aa well 
as the fact that her operations wore prosecuted on 
a river and not '* on the high seas,'' l>e viewed as 
an accidental and immaterial droumstance. 

The fact is that (to waive the case of the 
Alabama, which was directhj in the service of 
insurgents) we need a word that would exactly 
suit the Carolijie, the Enosis (the Greek veasel 
that helped the Cretan insurgents against the 
Porte), and, say, any vessel in which "sympa- 
thizers" of the United States might, on some 
future occasion, aid and abet the Fenians in 
Canada or elsewhere. Daniel Webster, while pro- 
testing against the application of the word otrate 
to such vessels, says that it would rest witu the 
' government risen against how it should treat the 
i crew of such a vessel as the Caroline, A crew 
liable to the treatment commonly allotted to 
pinites would care little whether the vessel were 
termed a pirate or not. Can wo do otherwise 
than employ, for such cases, the word pirfUe in a 
secondary sense, unless wo adopt some such com- 
pound BS *• rebel-helper " P 

CQinbe Vicarage, nftsr Wooditock. 

A PAXEGTnir ON THE Lahies.— Thfi following 
jcu-d'tfiprit may be worth preserving in " N. & Q. 
I never saw ii in print, and only uiet it lately in 
MS. after nearly half a century. My mother 
gave me a copy of it when 1 was at «fitiQo\,\>u\ 


(<»^ S. V.'JAk. to, Tfll 

<K>me daughtera of im unole found it, and tuader- 
BtiknHiD^iL litemllrf committed it Ui tho lianieH^ 
and ihmr gt)voxDesfl mid my uiotber wiu gmo}^ 
111 ' iliictttion to allow mo to carry aUout 

^1 ents. The key to tho poem U foiuid 

)iy rcniiiiig tbe linos &ltortmt«ly. 

•* A Puntjfyrie on the Ladits. 

" liiinpy h« lUuli pi^ hiv Iffe 

Who's froQ from mntrimonial cLniiM ; 
• ' Wlin \t (Ureutefl Ur a wifii 

Is «are In AufiW fur bu poiiu. 

*'Adani oonld find pn wliil pcai:c 
Whtii E»e was KiveQ fop a mate j 
UuUl he jyiw a woman's f\icti 
AdJOi "Kaa in ft ba^ipy etaie. 


*' In til*" f—iin\.. r^.^.> „•>l^^»r 
•.■!■ ■ }];. V; 

, J n wooiiiu in}vcf dill resitlc 

,T \r. ' 

„. " , - '■■ -M 


^ l« blnuMl impviopiitibir. 

■ -■ ..,■.-., . ^^ ■ 

• • " Oonfuslmi ttikm the maa, 1 ««r, 1 

1^ Who makes a freman lii« <fcUght ; 

*)ii • Whtt no r«tfard to woniea pnv, 

Q,i Has rcvon alwiya jn lib ai^ht." 

■^•rffE OmAFPR. — In tiro iburtli chapter of liia 
US}ittmj Gjbbnn d(»cribcd tbo Emperor Coututodua 
AH hnrio^ siftin, iu the amphitnefUrat ^'sovural 
onimRl!* which hud been seen only in the repr&- 
seaiatioQs of art, or perhaps of fancy "; and it is 
added In a note that he — 

*' itilleil a camelopardU oc (n'rafe (Won. f.Uxil. p. 1210, 
ttie tnllcst, ihp m<r?t j^mt^and themost n?-'-" -•' "■■ 
lir^«'r]ii»ilruTw?iN. Thb Mugnliir anunaJ <ts> 
anntivo only ufxhf- interior pau'La al' AJrica, 1. i 
•«oo in Kiirop' -"vivnl oflcUen*; au-J tlkc>u;;U 

M. lie Jintt'on urwl to tleflcribe> be has not 

vcutt»ttd to dtliii- *i- in f,italiV 

Upon this Dean MiUnaw obfterves: "Gibbon U 
Tuifitakon, m a girafVo was jjrcsoiited to T^ronzo 
do* Medioi oithL-r hy the SiiitAn of Kgvpt or tlie 
Kinff of Tunis '*; and the authority he ciuotoa is 
connnntd by rrn extract from a contcmporarr MS. 
in the Mvnmrs of Vmtdaiftt Coii»inca'o by W. M. 
Tartt (p. 2LM"), of whirh one of the fow copied 
printed m in the Ubrnry of the British ATuBCum. 

"H67 (wy* the cbronicJcr) a t\\ 11 Nov^ entrb fn 
FirvnKf' lino antmale dctto la gtraffa con 1" Icone e altri 
animali maudatl dal Soldano di Af6«7(mKi al commune 

' f ' 1 bf'rt, in bin /,»VV' o/" 7 virt^ 

|i; i; ^raeiiiUy writes upi i. iiho- 

rHy^, eujs that a giralTe, " the first attu lu Lurt'ue 
in modem limes/' was brought to Ferrara by the 


fiultnn'fl ambB&s&dot (\rho would nut sort -withlt] 
in U7L>. 
A passogo and a note by Gibbon, and a Ddt^i 

Milman are sufficient, I pv^womp. t 

asking yon to put upon record tl 

the liatca connected with them. ^ - 

fKiiu>£R<>ftB.— A friend who vrtw trftv^^lfiii 
Norway IfVii suxnmcr hod hu att- ' 
a Oinip&iiion to a qmmtity of v 
principfllly fvir<i, arranged as if expjsc J to: wile! 
tiki .spacious cloaca of tbo inn at which they 
fip ' '' night. A mruilar exhibition at 
D- i.mcnt induf-tf-d him tortaniin* 

o1l>.n,-i_v^ ^^urii bc fouiid ihftt thd aniclMW) 
Iinlf- worn winter clothing of the family, 
there for preservation, hy mcBne of the' 
fronj the attack.') of ninths. This obscrva1iDa:ii 
nf interest to the nrcfasologist and aWo ^ Ihfi 
phTloInpst ; to the former, becaiuto it iodiOMtM 
why such large roomp, «v«n i-pecial tw^' 
some of ths mediaeval caatlcs, were d«va 
latrinnl pnrpoaoe; and to the latter, beipij 
explains the orii^tn of the hwoA ffttrtUntif^j^vi 
our modern wardrobei X 

SCTTBAY Fcsniyo, l■t^t4: LoBD Kn^MAVJIH^—' 

Str Alexander Guunmgham, I:/Ord Kiliiiaiiwit 
upon 0(:trther !f>, I-WM, waa piVkAocntJ' 
John Cuke, chaplain of the Now Wi ;i, 
laystou, for 5/. 0«. (Sootij ?} oi arri r i- , thrw 
t«irnu of fttlpendc aad Ifbr the wron;.- i 'Mion 
from Ihv rtivereud tjentWinrm tha 

"Poundani tyde wf thuZiur' > . Aii 

mou^ bait, and net." . 

Jb looderu purUnce th« dergyraan'i namo Wif 
Cook. XVieat<t in ]1484, and f- ' 'Ver- 

ward*, were uuifortnly styled >e'4 

Knights, as therefor: ■■- ■ '' .,^j> 

man fiahinfr on a jid 

net*/' would &.stoni^iil j^'ihmi lams nnw-ii-nny-i. 

The noble defender was ca.'jt in the artioa 
brought a^^ninst him, and the Pope's kni^rht ran- 
quished the Scotiali kni^'ht. The rever^'mJ geutlo* 
man waa also allowed to prove hi« piitcat«>ry lion, 
and Lord Kilmaim waa orduaed to p>ty th« 
amount when ascertained. 

Lord Kilmaun was one of the few ndh^iA'Uta of 
Jhoim 1H, of Scotland^ who lund*' J.iiu IZulof 
Glencflirn. When tho rebel l. ;a4 

the defeated monarch wfu mn. itu« 

haown afAOA^in in Sauchie in Jun J.- 

mnure was despoiled of his earldom, irn« 

niftnn<?r na the EnrI of Crawford w** dttpn->. -i J 
hrn daU^om of Moatrase. 

Jamec IV. restored the earldom hv a n 
tion to Cuthbort, the crandaon ..!" Sir A) 

Th----' ;■ ■ 

^t-^U At l,;fU \r.iu. Um 

w water Okubt nuUv i^Wi 



•*•! mTJ^^f^i^HM}^^^^/ 



—A»"N.& a" appears to 

ither wiy'uijs'a, the foUowi»t' 

■ baJ 

lid be 

■ ■ ■ ■ . iier. 

1>K MoItAVIA. ' 

0)1 AT Exktt:ti CATWKnn.\u— On the 

idiii trt of 

)Uc 1 . :.- : .L.. .:.. : .... .-^, is in- 
olad tlir folLowiDf^ iu^cription ia Lomboniic chftr 

r»A¥ SIC I'liEhsir ADAM **va 


I^ (jmt'3 elciir with ike exwption of 

in rTi.» firpf line, where the word ia 

The aliufEtoii Uno dout>t 

■]'i A4nm, but Uie conatrue- 

13. W^'f^KK. I prMHifle, 18 £dc«va WL 

: tb$t ibrae i;oii>**;v>i:ati«>o crossca re- 

■ riwf, of tiie spuU^, waJl pf tbfi 

navH, two of lhcn> do^e tpyc- 


f";. — Who t*ttn rniiturc 

mVi^t^ry ihn RoaqiiO 

....... . .._L raising tho quo*tioo 

old worM mftv not aft« nil hare 

• <1 fr"rn tho new, gnd Whether the 

■yreneet, nnd the Ibe- 

li, msT not have beeu 

I of wandoMrs ivho • bad 

■ ritic Ocotin? ■ ■ 

i«5 ws IS toe " Rbcorw/' JjCKI'5, 1670* 

BftiTorKA IV THi: New Ykab. — Tlda is ft 

hV.>f .*i.;. '. 1.1. . >»>..n wvorid limes noticediu 

Act soems fully cfttttbliahtid 

f -J or f'MniiiinQ bodes evil. 

' the point a few 

i rth of Knglftod, 

'- n tovra at some distaaoe 

vr^T. ■wn" htTii/hli'd, and 

!■ -I'lm- 

.^a in 
..i nUicfai Jauj^h- 
• \Vj and inquired 
■*jj.'s iul', ■ »nid bur futher. 
lb slift, ''yoamtin go beck to 

in y»>(um. u. 

'.■i.''i" Liui:-i mill- 

self had brought in tTio Nc\vTen^ "But the cspe* 
cini cflU4e of my note is to reqiiej>t the opinitia of 
your rMii(M^ fdcill»*d in folk-lore to the lollowiug 
difficulty. Deftirin^ that everything should ,b«j^ 
properly en r^^i^j I inquired who hnd broufjht th« 
nctr year into uiy present liabitattoa laal Sntur-^ 
day ; nud I nm iulormcd that it wns carried, ia 
simultaneously by the gurdtinerand the cnt. Now, 
tho pardentT, thou^'h masculine, ia ^ey and has 
been ftam.Iy ; tlie cat, though fucuiniue, is black. 
How, theDf will my t'urtujMii for 1870 distribute 
themselves? fur good, acc«wlinjr to this oidour of 
the cat find the gender of the jrwdener? or for 
evil, flocordinjf to the ^render of the cnl nnd the 
colour of the gardener? I mn sure you m-ill per- 
ceive tho practical importance of thia grave ques- 
tion. TlEEUEXtnUDE. 


ONLY CniLD OF KiKO RicHAUii III. ^ U the 
burinl'placo of this Princo of Walofl known — the 
onlv child of King Richard ni. ? He ww» bom 
in "1^73 at Middloham Castle, in Wenslcydale, 
which had become the property of Ida father, 
then Duke of Gloucester, owing to his tnarriaffe 
with tlie Lady Auue Neville, the dauirht^^r of th« 
king-maker, the I'^l of Warwick. iU also died 
there in 14>»4. There is no mouumcutftl record to 
be found in the chuwh of Middiuhiim of bia inter- 
ment, which WHS nuvde collegiate by his father, 
and who reirardt'd it n-ith special favour. The 
cafitle of Middloham wa.^ also at onft time tho 
chief residence of King Kichard III., moat likely 
either ou account of e&Hy romini^toanoii^, or ou ac- 
cormt uf th» beauty of ltd aiUiation, coniuiaadiiis 
M it does one of the tineat pro?pecU in Weusley- 
dalu. Priind fane one would ima^ne that Edr 
ward Plantagenet found a gpavo witliiu the walla 
of tho antique church of Aliddlolmni, which ia 
close to tlie ca>*Ue; still, on .tit md, there 

ia neitiier record of enon a fat: i the WAy 

of mnntiineut or local tradition ; iiar, lu fur ascan 
be ascortain^^d, \9 Middleham ever uientioned na 
his gepulohro by tho many writcra on tho on^ 
tiquitius and scenery of \Vcnplcydnlo. • 

Jo(i> PiccFOBi]/H.A^ 

BoUon Tcrcy, nCJir T«lc«(*r. ' ..■ ;■ .;"T 

l>oRn Bmos's ''Irish Lasy/' — In tbf.pri- 
grofis of IfOjrd Byron's do&cription of Ilaideo h(^ 
says : — 

" Then wa» an Irish la<ly* to wbtne boH 
1 ne'er taw ju-^ihx douc, nnil yet she wan 
A ("requHiit iiindel" — 

and so on. Whn^ pf'Tj ^^ tbta " Irish lady " ? . 

Javes J. Lakb. 
Cndcnrood Catta^ Paisley, ''* 

CnmsTER Familt. — Can any of your readers 

■- information respecting Colonel Chwter, 

i^h oiUcHr in Widcheren, who, aoc«irding 

iw i'.e (x\, 10), in 1^7^; on the free uso ana 



[<*s.r. jAj<.a,' 


nromiao of Spanish gold by Alva, uodertook for | 
thirty ihoiwaud crowna lo introduce Ih© Spnuiards , 
into that Island P Tb« authority for thisHHxerlion 
IB n letter in the archives of Simauci^^ frout An- . 
tonio de Guaraa, the Spanish factor in Loniicin, to 
Philip II. Ifl there any proof that OhoiittrV offer 
was either accepted or performed ? May he not 
have intendi^d to accept AWa'a bribe and then 
dccoii'o him ? Th(5 man who niuld offer to betray 
one side for money, would an likt»ly bo falae to hia 
dngvgement with the other. Who was Thomaa 
Chester the poet, a translator of French rumances, 
in the reipii of Henry N 1., mentioned in Wnrton'a 
Sistorj/ of Krtfflish Pocfrj/f section vi.? Was he 
related t^i Ilicb&rd Chester, one of the f^nvoya of 
Henry VI. to the court of Home, and friend and 
correepond**nt of Bishop BekjTitnn ? Was thia 
Richard t'lu-Bter a memner of the Cbeator family 
which — trmpore Elizabeth — was settled at Chi- 
cheley in Buckinghamshire ? B. W. G. 



desimuFi of iteeiu^ a specimen of the handwriting 
of William ('nnibe about the year 1770, or even 
as late a.i 177U, when he wm publishing the 
SofftU jRegi$ter ; and shall l>e gri;fttly obliged 
by references to any letters of his of ahout that 
date. T. 

Cottlt; FAVtLT. — Will any T>evon or Dorset 
Corre.'4p''>niii'nt be kind enough to lot mf know the 
parentttge. &c., of William fJotlle, Mayor of Lyme 
liegis in IC-O?, or give any information relating to 
the Cotlell or Cottle family of Devon and Somer- 
set between 1000 and 1700? T. Johhstox. 

12, U|>p*!r (."nniilpn Place, B»tlu 

Dagtai^ BELt, — W^ill ai»y of your correapond- 
Mits kindly inform me the origin of thefoUowing 
coatom : — A small bell, about uine inches high, 
called the ** Dagtale Bell/' wiw a few years since 
hun^' ouL*udo the tower of Frodsham church, in 
Chefthire, about the height of the belfry. On Sun- 
day< and other holidays, after the bolls had ceased 
ringing, n man used to look outi»ide the lower, 
and when ho saw the vicar coming instantly 
rang the little boll. Ferbapa other churches 
wero Mniitariy furuished, but the origin of the 
word "dfigtail" appears to mo very obscure. 

T. Helsbt. 

Frkn'CQ Coffins. — I should be much obliged 
if any reader of " N. & Q." in France would 
favour WW by post with iho usual pn>portion'«, 
ImeaAuremenU in inchfs, and deftign of a French 
iflin for an adult. 1 believe tlm cover is not 
fiat but roped, and that the sides arc not nearly ao 
deep fw VA ibc case with our!<. 

W, II. Sbweul. 
Vaxlejr Vicani^, Saffulk. 

OaovitR AND Stow FAMrLiES— Wanted, in- 
formation respecting Priscilla Qrovier, wife of 

Jeremiah Gould, before 1020. The fiumly ofj 
Orovier supposed to be of Devon orBorsct. A1m^[ 
information of a Sir Thoniaa Slow of Lkcvonshlfv^j 
said to have died 1670. .Any informulion as to' 
Stow or Stowe families will oblige 

U. A. BADciinn>os. 
S4, Roflsell Boad, Rauington. j 

GrsTAvrsADOu-nuB ASDDoifAT ■ ' - "T:iT. 
About tifleen years iigo I got n t' ond 

of the Edinburgh newspapera, euU*.' 'i l i" lat« 
Vice-Admiral the Hon. Donnld Hugh Markay," 
After giving an outline of the admiral's Uf&, tfa«j 
article concluded as follows : — 

" Ammi^ the kecnnot-a of anli<iu«ri«Ti '"'■^'■'-i' »K( 
too fiv(|ueiitly drsceodinp to tiitles, wh 
this truncratioD. wonU that .'«iiir nnti i 
llic M(»<lem AthcHi wnuM Hnmc i^ 
collvctiun of huh't^raph Icltcr? vi' 
North' Gu.sUvus Ailolpliu?, wrii,i. .. . ..t,,.-^ ,.i. 

the (iret Lord Keay, lent by the tiilhcr* ot thi* di 
admiral to an individual of eiiiiu«-'ri.'u in Kditihur;*!! 
probnltly by more ncoident, ni'vor ivturr 
lo that genllt:*mfln*s *udden ilwpiis*.'. 

that those IdterR were of a dp>''ply inttTi .. .^ 

dating Che Into principles and (rliKrat-tcr of lUat 
prince, as well as those ot' hi» S<-utti>h naxiHai 
associate in warfai^. whom OiusUvui I 
unreserved coofidfiirp and intiinntt* pi ■ 
The represenutivc Aactr* uf audi iut«r^ ,.^ .» 
oaa Burvly not be any way profiled by prolon^ug 
custody of lliptn." 

I would like to know whore the^ h'ttera Dpi 
are, and if there ia any likelihood of their bi 
pnblibbed either in whole or iu part. Sir Donalc 
Mackay, first Lord Reay» wus one of the* mo?t 
active supporters of Gu^itavuft Ail- ' ' I hl« 

memoir}) would form a fitting con; ! :mtti 

to those of Kirkaldy of Grange ana r>ir Johaj 
Hepburn. JuDN xMackat. 


Mrs. Hertrt. — Can mt of your corr 
enta give me any information fw' to Mrs. HeiTCj^j 
the quan wife of the " great law lion " Thurlotwrl 
Campbell, in hia ill-writteu and c>nical 
Lord Thurlmc,of whose natural and l^gal ai 
the late lord wan, in my opinii'ii ■ 
pavs very Utile about her. I lad -^ ( 

ongin or vicious character, doubllt--^ > 
Chief Justice and Clmnr<?lIor would have n< 
anch being the case — for he h»« '^"^-< '"'It 
ously nnrrated evervtliing to the -> 

all jud^t'j* nnt Scotchmen. Mr^. 11. - .- : L 
c«llor lived bappity togetlier; all their dai 
married well ; and oven Campbell is fc 
admit that Thuriow waa a g<ood iather. 


HoMBa. — I have b volume with the title — 



The Bad. U«org« Mackay of S4ib«. 




loMarttttirt Rnrnano interpreter Eirwiem Hvmni 
xxxli ItArtuna Creteiuc intcrpretc 

Bxcsnktwtxir i n^i dooilai uitxxxrui,** 

] do noi liua a m lirunet. Is it rare Y 


A JrsgriL — A fi w ilHva'^ino*' I chAored to be 
in the aKop of A jlit^U-li^iini'Hi'j'fr xn Fleet Street, 
[% I - in^' tlio fippejimnce of a reapect- 

_'d and inqnired for a " junqur." 
rlui .- 5111 1 tUe shopiuoii. "A junqur/ re- 
futed tbe other. ** I don't know what you menn." 
** Why, « junqur," was tlif rejoiudvr, ^'^ven with 
•OHM MperitT, AA if surprised at the other's stu- 
p;,*;*.. — ■ .1 i..r,.,,. »,p repeated, "one of them 
iL ij^ to a number of cmb^. 

N\ . ^..:. _- ibo word be uaed, I flKJted 

hira what it was. He at once repeated it, and 
tikMi riawly spelt it out to me — junqur. 
"WTntpe do they use thnt word for a crabP' I 
■feed, ic^ be spoko with a strong provincial 
Aooent which 1 did not reco^^nise. *' \Vby, all 
rooiid the Kentidb conAt." "Indeed; I prido 
iQjtelf on being a ' man of Kent,* yet nerer re- 
sneaiber to have benrd it before." '■* Ah, yon go 
toBamij^Ui nnd »k fnr n cmb, nnd they'll tell 
yott h U poison." I c«h»M be glad, sir. if any 
nader of " N. vV Q.** cnn ^'ive mo some informa- 
doo about tUi8 word junqur, and nl.^o why the 
(•uple of RiUDi^te cnnsider a crab poisonous, 

J. D. 

'mcENT OP THE Macdcpps. — 1 have 
.•♦l<M>d, but I do not riiCoUect ever 
gnia^; tuch. a stAtemeut ia any author, that the 
adant &LmilT of MacduiT, Thauea and Earb of 
Tdm^ dMcenoed from the old Scottish kiogs. 
Various writors ineniion iiiiff, bod of Malcolm I., 
uid the ajnie of Mucduft' are — " Or, a lion rain- I 
J*at, gu." th« niyaJ arme of Sctitland, which aUo I 
'ify a prominent place in the coats of the 
imefmu'Ue* claiciin'r decent from the Mac- I 
J ?bftU foel oblijred if some reader of ! 
<i." i*nll infunn m© whether the royal I 
i».:i nf iln- Macilulfs ia mentioned by any I 
r there are any grounds, besides \ 
Lare referred, for presuming it 
A. M, 3. 

To Xajie MAftfiY.— The interesting replies to 
flib^tury 03 to the origin of the name of Gougfa 
%tft*'_ m.' I'. .-iKt it Ii.r.rinntion OS to the meon- 

In Ireland its form 
I My, MRs*e nnd Miis^i. 

JCosl — Tbexe ore miuay conjeclurcft as to the 
ITitUia of thifl word — the assumed name of 

iW. y*. ir .-n r til.' r-'jil r.!Mi '. i (,h»« jrreut apoatle 

11 hereby. Cyril 
uiiii/ speech or 

■WmpB. i« would cbriiii for it a 

ttjhniiKt t also hlnt^ at the C«reek 

/uu-to^madneas. ProfessoT I.Aasen ia quite de- 
cided ID bis opinion that it eouios from the old 
Persian word mmiich^ signifying "spirit," 

I am no polyglottist, but doubtless there are sucb 
among the numerou.'i contributors to *' N, k. Q./* 
and therefore I do not despair of obtaiDiDg a 
Aatiafactory reply. 

Whatever be ita aonrcc, wo may reiwonabljr 
presume that the name wa^ adopted' wirh an in- 
tentional and direct reference to some of the more 
prominent tenet-s of the aect, 

£bMTJKD Tkw. M.A- 

Motto. — Whose motto originally wah the fol- 
lowing, "All things happen to those who wait," 
Talleyrand'a or Napoleon a ? Eitibl, 

Neoboes in America.— Dr. Smile-j stntaa at 
p. 289 of Self Jlripf popular edition, that about 
the time of the American War of Indopendunce, 
Sir. David Barclay had a " little slave commu- 
nity transported (o one of the free .American 
States^ where thev settled down and juntipyn'd." 
I should be ghui to ascertain the name of the 
place where this incident happened, and if the 
blacks in question have nmained an unbroken 
community till the present day. ^V. IL 

Poem. — Can you tell me where I may tind the 
rest of the following poem 9 — 

*'Tbc moaaUia sheep w«reswcetar. 
Bat the Tallay sheep iver« fatter, 
And BO wo dwiiittl ti raecler 
To earpy off the Utter." 

A. E. P. a. 

TuE PoBTcGCESE FuoT Hegimen T. — In the 
church nf St. Alphage, Canterbury, la a stoiM 
bearing the following inscription: — 

" Ilorc Iveth the bo<ly of the late Rct<i M^ Le Sner, at 
Ani chapittia to the Karl of Liffbrd's ng* : afterwards 
to a n«g' oilli^d the Portii^arse Foot ; A lutly, minister 
to a French Epi'oal ChapoJ in tbl« city." 

Ho died in 1740. Which was tho Portugaeio 
Foot? And which was the Karl of Liflbrd's regt- 
meat ? GKoaeii BjtDO. 

6, PulroM Brixton. 

H&LKTrtn Fa viLY. — I hare in my posaeaedon on 
a acrap of paper tho following copy of n receipt 
from the above family : — 

*' Oecimo Jv^ptimo die Ftliniarit Ano IfJIG. — R(^cdTed 
tb« day & yvuTO above written in pan jinyment of a 
greater *nm for a cortryne tcnemOt w"* the flppurtenanoo 
lyingn in Michntn in thv county ofSurrey frutn Thomoa 
i'lurotncr l!>«)uire the 4iiiu of six hundred *|iounda of 
lawfull English niunevc,' 
*• Witness oar bands 

" W, RalotKh 
K. Iialci>;ti 
W. Kal.^i;:h 

£ vj . oo." 
Can you or any of vour renders kindly inform 
me from what work tnis copy of rpceiui waa most 
likely extracted':' Whilst 1 am writing on th« 



ftbovefamilj, fviU you allow me to return my best 
thanVs to Messra. Cnorrn, IlFniinjn), ftnd \\ix.- 
KlKS for their informnlion concomlntr tlin porimit 
of Sir >\'a!ter Raleigh that r r..n L.,,!.;..,. *\,r hut 
u Tct hnve not been succt 
<*I^. &Q."4**an. IW, 21J. _ . ,. ..__:.: 
• print of the portrttit wanted in Kaleigti'B Jlist. 
of the World, eleventh editirtn, 1730, by Oldys; 
and pli>. cxHv. and cxlv. of kid Ufa jfivc a.Ue8cr}|i- 
tion M tha pictare as beinf; tho bc^t.and luoa 
antheatic ooe of hiui known. i i ., i h, 

DcuijUf CjtBT Kbw»« F.S.A;«:i 
SovUi Btnted, I^ignor. v i 

" Recogmtio FtmrBA " (4*» S. iv. 313, 4!ft)i^ 
•*An oUl tradition mta, that th'tw^ whWm we haw 

«erv«d nn earth sbill be tL« tint to weleom6 lu ta 


^liore U thin tradition to be met with ? 



Reid Famiiv. — I shall bo miidv oWifrod for 
any infominlion about the Roicls of PitfoddlpA, in 
Seotland, poriicularly a-* to whether the family ia 
atili existing. Anus: Arpeni, a chovron azuw 
betw««n three tnulletoiu Ghii>f and a croes^crosslol 
fitcbed in ba«o gulcA 

Ororok W. IUkshaix. 

WcAcombc House, BiclL&oUer, TaantoD. 

WAKErrBLD. YonKflirrRE. — Will any fwllow- 
(rtudent of " N. & Q.*' rcfdding nt or near ^^>ko- 
fieM Modly inform mc -whether any monumcnta 
or tablets to the Amot (or Araott) family are now 
existing ia the parish oTr Any olhor chureb ^ A 
Aqv. George Araott was the vicur at tbu close q£ 
•'ttie leypnte^Uj or early in. th^j^ij^liteentbi century.. 

Owsir WvRjf Bf fisBaiam-jkt-l^Aw.— Can ftoy 

of your c*>rreflpondentfl solve the followinjc ^no- 
alogiciU puzzle: — W. "W, 11. Wynne, iisoj of 
Peniarth, Merioneth, 0919011508 a beautiful old 
silver waiter or "trar, which ia supported, not 
on feet, hut on ii aingje ocdeelal. , tlij the front of 
it are the arms of Mr. ^\ yiuje'a greflt-grent-umle, 
Robert WiUinms, M.P. for ikt«mt|^oinerys}iir« in 
1741, iinpftlinp: th<:*»of hia wif« Muryol, daujfhter 
of Arthur WilUnmca of Tatymcolwvn. But attho 
hack thf-re is thia Inscription :— '* ^x dcno charifle. 
ATuuc'idi Owini Wynne Sorvieniia ad 
napor Capitnlia Joaticinr. in l?oiath Wallii. Tho 
goldsiiiiib's mark, it ia beJievod, is 1(503. That 
would be come twenty ywira before Uobert Wil- 
Uau)« wai( born. Who ww* O^ven Wynue? AVua 
he relnled to Robert WiUi«iiie P It has been 
suggFstetl na poMihIo that it was an old wnitftr 
which Kobert "Williinrrv^ purtOiased, and hntl hl-» 
own arma enj^aved upon it, allowing n foime* 
iMscriptioD to remain. SI. 0. J. 

XEyopHoy. — In the ffeVeMcM, bk. r. cap. i. 34, 
cKi^ot-T^p MtuiTiv, this evidently memis **a few 

, Caa an; 

out of the whole body." 
pamllrl dflc flff M T" 
eap. vi. 11 : How . 

mean " to fawn Up,... .. ; 

nn^tsap ? AUo in section 20 of Iho 

What were the itapa^^vtiara for.^ nls* 

cap. i. 22, ilk. t. Clip. xVt : b there an^i 

tion of T*ui ^0i>fODf bk Tur^ k$ifi>iklimr i ^ 

liD« or tno abcwe he saxs that be will B>Jii 

Greok into alarery. Diatlivf aays that 

reading rabt td-^ii there any luannscnpt 

for it f* ijitasAi 

TlronEsBAM, TTronRs: TpK **'nMi nrv TE| 
(A^ S. iv. C3a) — The casual m- 
the above reference of thla once c 
Bonaj^e has awakened a desire I have oi 
to know soinelhiu;,'- moid bf M^ car-. 
nourished in the G(;orj,'iau era; ' 
rifh, hence hia appellative; waaa' -U 

iiielUan type; tnanied Mercandit 
tho King^s Theatre — "that eiqu; 
sftva the enraptured author of 11, 
iook (8to, 1827), who fUrther j 
notice of the Prench Theatrp)— " I i 11 

hia trcrtsnre, >rerrnndott1, are to 
ftlinnat every evening of pcrform.-iTi 'i- - jvi 
they are " ; mid finnllVj died at Ver^nillefl i&fw*^ 
fonr years ojo. This is the sam 
of my knowledge of hmi.tind I 
receive some forthtt informivUoii 
perMni^ 6n6e eo conspicuous in the *'cli 
tftflhion." ^V 


[The r-j11owingflc*^>unt of tfio dcntli 6f*" 
nppnn*d in tho GeHtlrmnni'a iVn^raSiNf for A| 
p. &3d: ^ Dle<l at H\. Gi^rmaina on Mareti tS, 11 
Rdwtrf Hnght^ Ball llnKht*. who hnA lany I 
tbnt suburban retreat. In the days <»f GcflTg*^ 
HugLcA, or 'Golden b«ll.* as h«<va8 i»Ued« 
th6 Icadln;^ dandles of R period whkli immfdli 
liiwed that of Bena BrummelL Ball Ilu^jhia tt 
tUii be*t society of Loiiilon, Ojnotig wbvru hl^ [vi 
favourable pcr:ionAl appcnrniico nmde him a 
•^'iieJt One eviining 31 tlie lulUn OixrA >l^«^ 
were fltappointedntlhenon-nppenraneeof tl. 
ddiiccr.MadttnoLicllc Men'ondoUi, ytho lii.>! u 
beoomc tbc wifu oCBoll llii«:hc3. Th . 
Coiitiueut, and from that tiinv the ' ' 
licard of no mor« ia tho cikIck of iV 
Ttrtre i* a portrait of Mdlle. Mercam. 
in cliarjicter. engraved bv Cooper, and <»k; r f U**' 
Ball biniwlffin lhci.nndoiiCt>riHjr;i!iiin l.ibran*, 
Jc/., publif^hfd by McLuui.] 

"Off" on '*0x."- 
discnjsion : — 

-Picas.- ti, .-.-iiK' a 

4"* S. V. J*x. 22, TG-l '_ 



;i 1 wili DO 

tksn one Ktt^l&li jihxaso, ir. 

AlliaiA vMklK Clifl .manttiy of mui to vhat Iiaa bo ilouUt 
bmn thfmt^n «.tn*r« mrroot farmi It nKir bo unbrnitttii 
thai, ia «4Mlt <jiaM ib« <alr)ar form k, for tbe miut pari, 
tTTkaliyttil gramaiuUcally correct. The chaage woohl 
■Mn to Ymtc arum fram divagaid of the fact that pre- 
pvMlJoiu, like mo^t other wordHf have not only thdr 
jirimarr. bat DArr'^lntfrndaty Mrdtftla^iil ibkd ihnt aome 

i.^r of 
•ut in 

....,■... i..«. :...>! -.... ...^ 

tiiu.furixior wooKt leave 

'- n' ""^- ■■ ■ '■ fli old. 

.:- 'frora'? 


■ I iL iiAti«fie& Hfint 

(urs. IVrhapd ip aniiUier 

UiWinl . . ■ 1 ^v ■"■|t'M.I..,l 

LAJtAAiTtf. — Tfiifi wna the uame of OoMtffinFtfri9*8 
'^"■'T^Jk* i» trcU itn'iwn to nil reaUew <ifi eacle- 
' 'Hiioua, Uowever, arc diviijfi! 
tbowt^. Jareuiy CuUi.r -1 
IS. but, to luv thinlicniL^. iVu 

aStali/^jiI ])(-.(^:r' 



in.l. ,. , . 

diacuvcr^-i , .,,.^^ „■.!,:.■, .' ;■ .■,.■. ,■.,... K ■,/.', ">,^ 
MAET(ys'.--^r'pixrHcnlarly wish t» know if (heM<i 
WRS iiirr'}mlilr»hedtt"-|tt»liiiiy Lif>M;vUon '*; If aoviJ 
when, and by whom?>' Any historical iiotM of a 
MtkUon Would be tbankfttUyixtacttived nnd iioUnow- 
ludifttil by ' ' ' 'E^MOHTOW. 

X4oniB jcfOMBi o( 0|d ^^fl I l^^i^ Mfltan ,f9«y |^ p^md 
in tin Btatukt ofEmtrlatid mid fJViira, xvL I'Oftt Uio^ . 
derwdl'^ HUtory of Sairboroug/t, 9vo. t8U; and All«Br% 
Jiiatory of the Comty vf ytfni;iii4fi4. Its gaol' Aitd 
pootf kUuaa arc tlasoribed in t he dcntUman's Magazinet Ixx v 
092-694. Notices of tlio Old Malton Tirfory «hitre!t ahs 
giT4n in Ditgdalc'd^oMihcfw, odit. 1H3Q. vi. ff70( TBi- 
n«*d iV*Wiu, ijdit. I7«7j «nd, wUhan • -^^ '^ 'n 7?n». 
5ur7i6*cff of Atijjuat 16, 18ilO,[p. fi87. Fi :trn- 

infl a Koi&an iiiKiipiim fouiiU at MaiL-" '<• iw.^ooa*- 
suit (ba AddH. US. CIHl. p|v.2-M6 ({^rit. Mw«ani)il 
and the PhihtuipUiait Trantactioitt, kIuc GQ i ud flffUi 
lettar Af F.iPritke, Qoiiiteninii; the ^iie of Catnalodunam* 
dalcl April ■'), 1766. sm aIso tb« AAdJt. Ua iiUlv |k ST. 
SdBi« iotcre^iij pQpUit om jUiv ivoeut cw:arflU<iaa at 
I>«rTanUo (Mfiltua) ii9]>yvwl in ^Ti^, T^cv qi" jp«c.:^ 

l«jfc] .:;.M. , ■: ,W T • .,-/ mi'.' . : .1 .:,/.v; ii> 

Sir PirrKit LkT.i-^\^lnt'Wrt*' tW e4ti4t'a«tt? 
OT atleftsftto otHrt yCAt tri ^Wlch^r'PmtlJSl'ff 
tiie paidtipr/ t^ kni;^httjd by Ohftrfes H.f w 
ocChrrtd between 1070 and lOSO. J. C. S. 

f Pc(6v Lr)y,«(St. Paul, eovaatGar(leB;m)^« knfgtiled" 
ml Jmuatv 1!. liTr*.^-8l. 


I tu tliu L'jUmitici 
' upon the city of 

faroar^fiaronuatioa^- • ' 

KMknnvvTxvr, M.A. 

•amm (or Lftl^nim) hait g!t*en great 

.. ....(„ .....:..: ■■ ■■.-t offered has 

npprarel to 

rlnr, Vt)l. Hr. 
. tf\-rt irt I.B- 

itjy '* At Uic CAiiie limo I 

. y the drlicieoey." Adr. 

tb« OTOBoH index uf hU Onjmta (lOM). saya 


To the rt*-ply made ftt thi* wferenco I beg t? 
mako a littlo additioD. 1 ^vUIl a\«> to auk i^ucft- 
tians. I will add for J?\ U. Ibftt Xh^rouwiM ceased 
to exidt in 1063. I do fiot irnow auytbiug of.a 
battle la 1028. In 15«>'i it ira.^ bosieged lor tba 
Emperor Oliwlea V. by Lrnop* imder the com- 
lonod, iimtf of Adfien de Croi, Comtt^dts Hccuj, 
vrbo died duritig tha ««ge i SJid tinally, of t;ttaAr 
Pooco d<* U LniD(». It wa^ tflkcn by a-t$AuU June 
20, 15G3, and then Charlffl or<lt:od it^ <!tdivc 
demolition. Tbe bishopric of Tli^rtiuouo wna aup- 
prossed, and three new ee**t* wero erected by the 
Pope — Btiuloi'.'i.v Srilni.-"iiipr. iind Yprid. Aa 
excellent No'i -Onur tuivit de 

CL'iict <lc Thii' "j K-HVJ^.^Si.A!^ 

Suui-Omeria li330,Boy«; — 


[<* S. V. Jam. W, TOl 

"Tli^mnaiie n'eet plu qn'mi vJlla^ cooti^^ h Tan- 
citiDtieviUe. ilunt il ae wait f)ue des fofiM'S qui, m&lgri! tc 
l^a da temiia, ne sout pu eucore combti^" 

But the earlier cttpture by MaximiliAQ and 
Henry VIII. in 1j'>13 nna rw still existing interest 
for p<»rH0D8 who cato for the htstoritiiU heraldry of 
England. Home doubt rcodis to reet upon tb« 
daj of thfi ci^tUTB. I quote the Notice hu- 
toriquc a^am\ — ^ 

' ' rt ilea FraDc«U poor 
1 ^ c. 11 a'eo fut paa 

d. I.I ' '[•■ qirils esM^^reDt 

d'y Irtjiu vutTtT el i\\xi iluiiiiii lieu. 1« 18 afut.uuii comtal 
coDUU dAns rbistoirc soua lo nom dcdi^routc d'Enguinc- 
(ijBtto, nujuuTnre de.i Epnvns. I^cs pins bravM y payirent I 
(it; lviii> f*r*oiiiiC5 : If «iur de l^ngVfc'^'iUe et K* chevalier ' 
liiiyarl v lun^iit cnvelopp^ et emmenos prUoDniers )ar 
lu Au{>Iau<. Tltc'rouiuie n'oyont pu ctrc Mcounic, lul 

fpfcee Hk. cnpitutt t troU juurt uprrt, i'est d tlire U 21 aoH, 
et fut d^irnite a rfxc«ption dcs (f^li»o» Charles- 
Quint refill menva I'ann^ suivante (1517) & faire r^tabtir 

Kapin aI>o givna llie 18th n« the dftte of the 
tattle, but sayfi that the surrender of the place 
•was on the 22nd. 

But nn English original authority, which I -will 
now quutD, dates the uattlc, if my notes are right, 
on thi- 16tb. 

The Dake of Lougtieville was tnlten — " enve- 
loppt? et emmene prieonnierpor lea Aii^Mnis." But 
the man whn had the honour of taking him was 
Sir Jnhu Clerk of North Weston, Oxfordfibire. 
Guillim, in his own edition, llUO-11, mentions 
the fact ami ^vea the coat but not the epitspb. 
Antony a Wood copied the epitaph, onditia to be 
•eon in hiii MS. H lo, in the Ashtuolean Library. 
Many ycnrf* ago I copied it from the hraas on the 
monumL^t of Sir John still remaining in tbo 
church at Tbauie. 1 give it, hut I regret to say 
I cannot break it into the lines into which it is 
distributed on the hnii's : — 

** Here lycth S"" John Cl«rk of Nortbo Wcaton* Inyclit, 
whyclc tuke Louys \>i Orlcan?, L»uk of Lonpievillu 4 
Marrjuis of Rotui'lin^ pn'9i»n' at y* jomM-nf Honoy by 
Tcmvtini' y* xvi"' day uf August in tlie v"'yenj ofr' 
itijrno of y noble A* vittorious K\iig HMiry v* VIll., 
fVvclic J»>bn dioft'vd y v'" day of ApHl Au. dm. Ifia'J, 

T will now, to save the trouble of reference, 
give part of uillmi's atateraent : — 

" lie U-jrclJi Aryrnt on a Bmd (ttil..'sl*iccc S»nn$prnpwr 
betwetn M miiny PtllaU, rcwaitled witli a Canton sinUter 
Atum, l!nn?npon n dcmy-Hamme inonntin^ Aritrnt nrmcd 
«r bclwu-n two tli'uret H* litrt in dtiile uV thu lul, 
oaer ail m Jfalttnc dtsto-iruUt a^gc^t»'* 

Then he tells the story ; and then says: — 
•* In memory u( wlik'U Hiniict the coat-arroor of the 
Diilit* wftA given hioi. marBlinll«d <in a <-ikiituii •inti'«r in 
Ihb lUiiiiritT. by , ' 'i':; 

.... iIk' n;b'l"i. H 

coat, iti fjipri'Si'tfit I, Mr 

Juhn Clarkir m ih« ubiifdi ui iumr, ia Ibe cuuntv of 

i lit' Mi 
It glrM 

But QuiUim hero givea oa soma inforutti 
beyond what ia recorded on the monument. An 
this is one of the ft:w inatancti.i in which OniUizn| 
or whoever wrote Uie I)ixpU:y unUur lua ojun 
utied the opportunities ol hl^ duy, tuid uddcd ta> 
Ilia book something of that kiud of intertbt whi 
ought to have pervaded it. There ia in Ui: 
iiuicription, and in Guillim's account uf it, on 
word I do not understand — " >• jorney i>( Iiur,n^ 
W© have the journ^e dea Epcrons, but what 
Bainy? I have never been at thu aitc of Th 
rouane. Perhaps some reader of " X. Sl Q.' 
been there, and may be ahlc to throw some Ught 
on this word. 

The Norfulk fumily of IleTeuingham beems 
have been rewarded in a similar way. OuilU 
gives their coat, but without even uiputio 
their county, at p. 2oo of hia own edition. 
apelU the name Houuiuffham. But in :' 
tion of Norfolk, Ilavl. MS. marked " 1 
o823," ia a pedigree of Heniiinghftm. 
is a visitation brought down to 1(^25. 
shield of 6 quarters — nevcninghoin, ' ' - 
Kelley, Gi^«ingej TJudisbflni, Reppe*, ' 

Heveniugbam—ogoin in the la^t place ^. 

all ia A small iuetieocheon, quarterly or and a 
and to this ia appended the word Tur'"" Tl 
1 (ttke to be the Knglish for Thi'ron 
F, H. had found it, Turwen. Will .:! 
reader of " N. & Q." give ua some infoi 
nbuut the part taken by the Heveninghitnt 
day at Therouane ? 

This great family got to Pipe in StuCR 
IlMiry Townshend, Knijiht, of ElmVjr 
Worcestershire, married Horothea, daug' 
Chri»topher ileveningham of IMpe. She 
U500. The old house of the Townah 
Elmloy Lovett U rnpidlv goin^? to decay. 
gives no account of it: — 1 duubi if he erer 
1 vifuted it and made some notes ther» 
years ago. Before my visit there had been 
of the fonteuts of the house; lui'I 
shop iu Worcester, I saw n Cr: 
drawing; of the shield of the ii^i-.Miid 
Ileveningham uat«b. It showed th** has' 
TowD^h(?nd ; and the wife, — Hcvcningha 
qnnrterings, — and, over all, the little t^ 
quarterly argent and (vznre. It had ooi 
Elmley LnvelL 

Scuarta Lodge, MjUvarn >V«Us. 

(4"»S. iv. 335, 4^1.) 
If the question of tho wooded f-t 
tvstsou thehuur«ay statement of i. 
th(? lirst century, it surely inu v^ry upti. <^m 
which may well be doubted. (Jrauting, boi 
that all tbeM) writers bad tbemsvUes bo«a 
north a« the GrampiAr>n — tbu rvgiun, if uif\ 

«*av. jju(.«,To.] 



t — 8tm, yrhttt of thft 

)-wpjit of it, of vphicli 

n.ibin^ ? Tho country 

! from Mcamsto I^chnbcr, 

Jl !:i'm tbnt that woods abounded 

itli of liint district would bo absurd 

►uif . 

ir. Barton (ir. 158) save tbat Major desci-ibes 
Cftledoniau Aliw» as den^olv wooded (ifteon 
IM Ut«jr. What mountaiaii did ilajor 
f Thr ' "^ "v i;h? (iraDtinp, ajErain, that 
this rv^iiii V iid it was descnbed und aa 

i« iinp1i£<i, V. i.i forests, still what of the 

north and north-ftvst of it ? Althou;jrh quite 
wHlinp 1. 1 iM l^iinv ftnd his countrymRn hold to 

Major ■ 

Iroow I 

tledonioii forests as they existed 

' iXf I am not disposed to accept 

n uDlef=8 it be borne out bycon- 

•', which I do not believe it ia. 

to tbi? north and north-west 

I, treading on firm g^round, we 

I . was fond of hunting at Uarua- 

■vere no great woods there then, 

»!■ *L^ were some great trees; and wo 

ftj :, to allow room for the king's sport, 

Ut^c ff-.tii-jn*! of cultivat/*d land had to bo thrown 

WMte on eitbur side the Findhom, their proprie- 

d for the tonipornry loss. 

nds were convcrt<?d into a 

-i. -Lt Cawdor, too— so changed 

were ft'w tr»?e? when '* the flowers 

wtftv n' we^le away"' ; but long before 

iison-ift ')r ncorn'4 had been planted by 

t. I'ommo two buudrcd years after 

a landscape-loving generation. 

_- the Frith. 

lUi tn the Brendalbflnc territory, it is 

■ li^ptitrt that nearly iill the wood in 

tfl nin;:nificent woods have frw equals — 

ku h^en plftaied since the Ueformalion. The 

fir ^i-li-etfs of the famous forest of I>iin- 

kt 'wn I beb'eve, were plnnted in 1711, 

■ r.i.i^ii amre recent date. The Ilij^hlaDd pro- 

privtora <»f the sixtceotb century, Black Duncan 

ari " %ted Eiirl of Gowrie among the chief, 

IT 1 inters: they found bare hill-eides, 

■h pine and oak, whirh the men 

■ cfntury please their fancy by 

i 'Ir- -• forest primfcvftl "' ! I fear, too, 

•fxrlv them with pinie. 

■•* - u nittire woods when 

' centur}' ; tJiey were 

. I .., .1 r, whennt Invercauid 

".bich impressed him much, yet 

'. lum.Ii-. .! v.':i!-^ old, the WOI'k 

tied great 

■ ; most cor- 

wiih ih'^ R/o of these 

'! that whatever (or 

^^«T<ir> iit« Sylva Calitdonia of the Romans 


' or tbft Bimam Wood of the Thane of Fife may 
have btien, they had left nothing behind to prove 
I their traditional gfeatness. 

I Tho truth is, iis Mr. Coamo Innoa acutely re- 
marks, that this popular error has originated in 
tho frerjuent uso of the word "forest" in old 
charters. But in them it does not mean what we 
call a woofi, but a cliase. a game preserve, a range 
of bind having ltj<!iil privileges for the prcservfl- 
I tion of game {Earhj Scotch JIi»t, lOtK) In thia 
I sense, as Mr. Looaii may Hod, Glen Tilt is spoke*n 
I of b}' Pennant (i, 121 -G) when it was entirely 
wiiodless, though not enliielv deorless ; just as, 
moreover, it was in James V.'a time two hundred 
years before, as we know from Lindsay's dtscrip- 
tion of the maj^iticent entertaiumenl given to 
that pleasure-loving youth bytbc Duke of Athol. 
And Uoswell fuuBa the word so uaed ctbd in 

Pennant's Tour» and M'CuUi>ch*» JFcdcm High- 
lands, and of course Cosmo Innea' Earhf Scotch 
UitUory, will convince most that there is no ground 
wbatfVf'r for the general notion that Scotland 
was, in the historic period at least, a wooded 
country. Poor bare Scotland it has always mort 
emphatically been, yot '* bonnie Scotland " for all 
tbut. ' ' A. Falcoxer. 



(4"'S. iv.204,417, 525.) 

The custom is known in France, and is made 
use of iu llctiou a.s having been praclistHl in that 
country. If it existed in the li«le of Mati and 
some other place?, it was io use over n wide dis- 
trict. In the French paper Lc Luinff of June 10, 
iHUt), iu its feiiilleton entitled " La Pupillo du 
Com»'*dien," by Mctor Perceval, there is a well- 
drawn scene bearing on this point. The period is 
the time of the Ke volution, tiud sevcml peraons 
are led to the sratTold to be t-xecuted. I cotlfiaa 
myself to the case nf a young woman of Hxt^en 
or seventeen, and I append a cutting in which the 
ctrcumstanctiS are given : — 

**Le drama soniilAnt touchiit a sa iia. lino rastait 
pliiK nue la jtrtini: GWt cCrotteraent prcfsee ooniro la pot- 
trine t-iu saint »»ini*tri* de Difii. 

I>epuij le commencement t\v IVAW-'ulicm. ChoilM Re- 
nflinl, muf. pn-tcxte de refouler le fH'opl*^ avail fftit op^r 
unit vttlu^fALo a Mtii fhevnl. II iMuninit uliibi le dos b 
recliafaaO et nVpar^nnit lit vue du riittrril)ln vpiit^icie. 

Kn U'vsiil lea yeui sur Icsfen^trw dc rH"Ul-de-Villc, 
qui ne irouvait dcvaQt lui> Cbarksflpcivut miidanivHiUst 
et sea lilies. 

La presence dei deuK Misart h cctt« Itigobn ac^tta 
nVtnitna pruut Ic &0D^K)ffii;ier t la position da lear p^re la 
tvnAnit nltlitrAtoiiT. 

I. ■ ' zv inomW <It ' ;~ !• coo- 

vu (lenx mniii ■ 'f^- 

-^1 II! Lnurcl v.- . ■ I'umi 

roix itcctiiraate. 


Noi?¥;s ^ws>. jQ^ERiisa- 


:<lalt tcrcc angoJMa k tldioft- 


Cf t opwl IiimcntJililr fit conrir un frisson dftrwi le^ vcin« 
d^-" , ■■■ ' '- '■■- ■ ■ ■■■ '■•-■'■-■•-.-' 

I i:Mnt 

^i. . .ilftilo 

ceUe I'ldcuf Uu la aturt t^ui iiwuuu au couiotit dd visage 
hiuiiain Tidtalo iiuret<*d« liLCiire.s i^nilpt^^i's dans 1<* nmrlire. 
Sf. ' . ■. ' —--Tit niyeus, etiiiimt iinniobilt:^; ccs 

yei. :rfe-b«iux, iif» vrgArdiienl ritin, iirt 

affni ''H ]t.^ proTundcur* <lo riatliii. La 

Vw«itiit-il^ fiiji rtii-ilcia (ti5 mondca. 
^u cri df 111! ' ■ " ^1"' 1 ■ riiatnncc trc?*airut 
fidDfemettt. J.' mob', *I!c ivicva 

■ Alors nn diviit .->ourii(i i-claiia ;d Ugiirc d rile niontra 
d*Kn regiud Ui dol ii sun ofQic 

— Laiiu* I Tenure ! riJM.'[n l.ucio »ii »e (l(>l>»Uitut enira 
Ifts l)ra« do sa nl^^c cpouvanlw. 

— Am't*/, arretf-i!, cria ftmt h cftop tnw ro!x Tfrinc ft 
VftumntA. . , 

7-r Qui 9£e cttTimnnd^r po ma pr^ace ? dciqaodt in* 

' — Mm irtt; t^tidH Cliflrtes Kvhgua 

dHltteoii I > 

L'"-'" '.^V' ' t..,,.(re, la'il (1x0^ VotjiiUa 

Ui ■ ' ' 

— noile jfone hnuifnp, ty 

la gnuuk'ur <rnmr <|ui t'hoiivre, ICIt Ittca 1 c'Cit cede 

.-T- Jc (ovtji niirc'chal-dpfi-logu. i^pondit 

rearo)v iiUua d'uii tou ^i«nr«il]&at- 

'Chorlt--." r. ;ii;t ; ^ ^ ,, ,^,, 

— Leflfldfit qui a bicii m^Aif do la patrie, dit celie 
lot, pent fuuvrr utic cundanini^ en IVjinuxaat ; J'al liieo 
merits de la patiic ft Je dcmande en roariage la citoyenue 

Laura. v'' ■( ■.■(■;! V , ! ■ ■ y/ -. 

— Tn es danit ti>a droit, iDOn brare Iteoaud, qu'il ^oit 
fait selcn ton dtiairj 

— • Cilcvi n PAt L ..'ii-iir, nil in I a li- jirorriiiBiiI rOHICtftCCtiO 

Jeunc fiM< 

'%t j(( I .1 1m d#gT^j 

d^' )VHintii)i«] i-t <ii i>'.i(-'c. niiit tftiiMit l.nirn- mfro ki 

I,« poiihlo. II III II 'r: nit triiiiii'/iHT mi vcrl . Micut MUX 

ivi. I-]ei(- 

rai- ; hftU 
mMrt'ri ■ 

qui, {tour - . L _. , , ..- 

lOOiDa ftincvrcvi et nrnini cxpren-ivra, ^ : ■ 
Qntnt h \Mi\c, n-i^i fnitUu dandle t>onhettrnir«1l»irraat 

*t^ forte I 
que AOD 



nen & crai: 

fond. , 

IiAUTO, TOtttaBut<A*un'od*/ ptir Ic fw^re^ -deVitkiln -par 

CIiwIm, fat arr r ' ' v ,1, 

— CU'0"aini .ii;e.ordonniilVn- 

Toy<*iIe m f" . nvnirs eoavcrniiis 

qut I'ur U pt-uple, je difpettte lea fotur* 

coi ordinolrv*. 

— r I • ri> que Von TDBfl dennndcfft ! 

dit t 

l-[ . scnpigcait. I.aiir« pbeiU 

^^ Au uuiu dti Irf Itji, ^ ifUa cles ttiari^ : tUt le moire d'un 
too softuiifl."* 

'^itlbh An ) Pati«ttiKtiMi fn^ 


(l^^S^ir. 512.1' 

ITore ure a few additions to Sfu. Crieit'S Vizi 
of books on pointing-, I have had only one of tho 
IkmiUs (No. 0) before me. Tho titles of th«« i«i( I 
have taken from Wntta Rifi. lirit. ami thi^ iwiti$ 
and eonio othnr cut 

ptnijftfd. I 

n. u. . 

me-lUv.i. ! i; 

^. CAalf, Kuk* Tor I'uiicUi^tiui. Luiidwui 
ton;l«feo.' '^•' 

5. Day (W.). How to Stnp: ruiL-tantion r»dai 
a Pv?icm. London^' UarriMn. ~tli fll-ila^'A Iflmo. 

f». Francillon (Fr.)»Ejfpay on Tubctuntion. Loadoa 
Whitt.-ik-r. I)*!?, I'Jmo. ' 

7. Ilurtkv (.(!.;, Vrinciplca of PwHiUaU^n- Xoi^M;, 
K. W^Wn; IKinoL ^ " 

8. MIttd rooi* Sttipa ! Lotfdon : Gro<nin>riita«, IBSJJ 
16«o. ' . . 1 »■ ,..:^ 

i- -. ■ . 

10. Munteith 
rdliHnp. F-diTii 

l]j Plii]o40pliy aiii 
cbslcgieU Eehj. h* 

il. > Samiiel), Pnnrdwfiftn ; or. (in 

(q J.1. .: ...i; ^rl .il' I'.lnflur j ..i »!■" I'fi... 

Omninwr nnd i: t ; 

Bs^t^lance (i/l!ci 

l.S. Smollfifld (ij'j ■ ^UA\i I'uacti 

linn, r.tmdnn : Iviilr 

18. Siw'l (David). I.::.;..: . ..i.ctnntton j 

Cnlicnl (llti'erTatinns on «m^ J*ifc^lU[«6 iii Milton, 
dop, 17SiJ, ISaio. 

17. WliUTB lo .Stop 1 ' I frcaiisa on Taorl 
lion, hondoti : l.onj.':; I'mn. 

18. WilMn (John), ii - lifnmntatli^ Pi 

U»n. l/nitw I Wbirfietd, lif50. jJtii ttk 1866, ItraoS 

I Iinve copied tho foUowIng T 
yfimtwl th 7imioi,r(thhic itnicvyfcUc. . ua 

Fordiuand Deiiia, i'. riiicon, lit l.v Morutime* 
iVis iwa7. p. 4u'i : — 

]. I'^ficard, Troitd dc la PoiKtuAUvn. Paria, 



'J'raitti lU ii(;,ti"ti wu L'c.;i.^ .. 
dt>A notairex, A ^lJ^i^ fh-^z Itruiio-Kiililif. > 
3. /. ^. Chauttrr. Trniti^ dc P(ractuuit> <,. 


rl.. I • 

. Auff, l.tmnif€. I'ariat IMF, \ 


, An -E3wy on Puacii 

4<>»'a ▼. tjct. isM.! 


riKwiil i'..ri»r Irt tUo Ituir.v to fh4' 

ue fif liuah-n pitfJinhrd tlit^wj thtt 

• '.*. u> ifiTiT (LouAtm: Low & Co., it^lri) 

tlud references to about a doxen works on 

lUou. 1 do not think it worth wliilo to 

riba ;hein, aa the pngea of ''N. & Q." are 

fi rinuj..l Lv T]niicefl of bookji which h«v« 

'jtTT?, to SCT noihinpr of the 

•n: ur the duecription of hooka at 

l-hKnd. il.JB.ii*.. 

(l'*" S. iv. 51.X) /, 

It^li of little eotiwqui^nMywhetlierwyiiiaUxioea, 

. . ' ' iind U\ prol«?ie historical wriUn(pj to 

; the ioTtn ''first-born" aon nifty he 

«t u 1 - iiD ff«4/ fton. Our concern in this mat- 

BMiat ho with the UngTiflffft nf IToly Hcriptiirfr, 

in- ' f" *^" .Tpw5, and the intorpn't^aiorU 

1 I'he eipresaloq in the Iau- 

^u.-i .-J - i-y ni> mewuis iuipiiea ixay sub- 

pro?».'Dy. Wo rend in Kxodiis iv. 3:?, 

my »ou, tiy /fruf-h&nt*' y «nd xHi, S, 

,unto nie tny^^ J^nt^-tom.'* llclvi- 

forrrth century", nod .ToviujAu, flsscrlud 

i:34cd Virgin li»d other cbUdreu nfter 

SaTiour. But Uiis error was ftolidly 

hy St; Epiphftnhm, St Jorom, and St 

9t J«rom proves, tn his hook HKt^inst 

' firsf-lornin the language of Sfrip- 

first, whether fallowed hy other 

ren o£ nut; and eonfirma the peipBtnal lir- 

itr of Mary by the teatimonico of (he Very 

I;(*r»—- S!^. Ipialins, PolvcArp, Iroqioua, 


1 e to tlie e:(proawoa^/rr*i-i6w«, Si. 

' lift : — 

■ :( omith 

i:o(| iHn- I 
|...r> -I'l-in J1II1, -■- I tiritt; .j-i-iii mil!!!' DcllllU } 

m f>''. quui «[£ pririio^cntlnm : Omve infpnt, ywrwf ' 
rr»t rv.'f.iM. .MifMiiii, •! non P'^t priiiiyp'iiitu-;, msi i» ' 
itiiiii, 'Virm •'-f(M'"ttur fratnjjr; tannliu cncfnlftlUu 
toiDi-v'i'ii r'n d-'i'iitur, qunmpliii vt ali.i fucriiU prw- , 

itA; lie fofle, parlu poit4« non §ei]^iienfp, unlucnuns 
•it, «t ii>Hi prfmo^nilas."— S. Hifron, ^rfi:. irehifitum^ 

1=*. C. R 

1 thinlc we noed go no further ihim to Exod, 
11. !?. t'-t wli'rh rt-f-^/ifrp tie Evnngeliat*; proliahly 
' ■ ii. 22-21 : SIS Bishop 
• 'U of the wumb deter- 
n I.." l^el me rolbr Z. Z. to 

•if art. Hi.; Hooker, £. P., 

V. 45; Wordsworth on St. Mtrtihfii', i. 25, Rud 
the writcra cited hcroiti. Bibhop rcnr^on^H ti\xb 
nnd autes ore eepecially good. J. T. F. 

Tbfi Colle^> Hantplcrpnhit. 

Kumcroufl inetanecs may be addvioed where 
this term, from (ite natttre of ihe vaur, iocliiden, 
b<*side0 its own, the tneAninj^ of on/r/ inn ; as, 
when in Exrxl. xii. It iii s^d, *' The t^nl smote 
all the firet^horQ in Ihc land of E;rypt," the state- 
ment in intended to bo uniTorfiol in iti appLioAff 
tion ; and as in the eommand Exod. xUi.» " tMmc- 
tifyunto me nil the tirst-bom.*' Again, in the 
w6U-known line — .»i 

, . ** Dear to the father ia bU fimt-bont't birth," ,• 
the sentiment ia not limited to the fntheri of 
fftnriKes more or less tutiaq^ua. ' But I venture 
to oBse^t that no qjithority can bo found for the 
use of /irM-horn son ns oquivaleut to and aubati- 
tirted for onit/ fion ; whUo with reference to the 
nssertiou whicli t<ii^|;euted 'A. Z.*s inquiry, I mny^' 
npply to the aboVe pura-se th^ reniarU w^ich Dean 
AJJrnrd in hia ciuiiimiaUrV ou Alatt. i. 26 applies 
to acotber in the same vera», and bearing ou. tb«. 
same subject, that-i- t ■ ! . *• 

"XoonewnuM ever have thouijlit orinterpretlog-Hrt' 
vi?tM any otlicrwI:te than In Its prm4 fade mrftnlng. 
I'xccpt to fbrce it into sccordnhre with a predod()dvea 
notion of the perpctufti virrinityof MarT."'_^ i'" 

-, ,- - _ ..JT'^NVv. 

..: ii < ...■ T' .; .. l^ »tJti'»,B 

SIR WUJ.IAM KOiil.r:, KSnOHT. -^vml 

' ■ ■ '"iiii'^'s. iv. 167, n42, 540.) ■ ' ~ri 

I db'ifot conneet Bir William Ro^r, th^ 
favourite of Jomea IFT., With the I\o^^>r8 in Cou-"- 
parirrange whp owned ft email property <»Ued*, 
Mary Weil; at least, I have no fact to oiler sa 
evidence. There need be '* no mystical cant on a 
very plain ffuhiect.'* "Mafywefl/' I have Si^icL 
" formed part oi the church-lands in CouparinrflUgSiJ 
belougiug to the abbey pf.Coupara^jguA," Ii^s:4%n 
situat^ed* aa I believoi within the panah of Be dv? 
dochy, iu the county of I*©rth, tne district 0$^ 
Strathmore, and commimnriat of Angns. Moat , 
people knov^thnt every abbey had its yrff/^/c — ■ 
the chief hoiL-.e of each of thu abbey haroniee — 
under which Rppellative, it may ho reasonnbly .t 
proanmed, were included lands viirionsly dn.«ig- 
uated. According to Mr. Coamo Inncs, the ffrariii**^ 
was ** a spacious 1/ii-m steadinp" placdd unth r tUe,^ 
snpervislou of a monk or Iny brother, and ndioin*»j^ 
in «■ which was a "mill with all its pertiu»'nt»-'Vij 
The (tranpo-miU of the abbey of Coupar wn« 
called' *' tlie ahbey mill of BIftcklaw/' to whictJ''' 
we ftro told, ** the adjacent lands were thirled 
after a most grinding fashion," The lands of 
Coupargrange wcwj at one time in the hands of 
twelve proprietors. At the dale of the public* 
tion of the J\Vw StatUiical Accoimi, all theaOj 



[4*8.V. JAM.JJ.'Tft. 

united into a sinffle estate, were the property of 
Patrick Murray, Esq., of Simprim. \N hether the 
estates of Grange and West Grange, in the same 
parish, vere or were not included in the original 
home-farm of the abbey, I do not know. From 
the twelfth century— when the church of Kome 
OTerywhere culminated, and, as Forbes * Quaintly 
obeeires, " The voice of the Ooapel coula not te 
heard for the noise of hammera and trowels " — 
down to tlie epoch of the liu formation, nearly the 
whole parish consisted of abbey lands owned by 
the ecclesiastics of the abbacy. 

That W. E. should have jumped to the conclu- 
aion that all personal names and land estates not 
mentioned in " the last County Directory of Scot' 
Umd " are necessarily non-cxistcnt, is one of those 
amusing delusions incident to the various forms 
of unrenecting objection which one occasionally 
meets with. I should think it lughlv improbable, 
on the assumption of any usage \\ith which I am 
acquainted, that the charters by Sir William Koger 
could have been transferred to Thomas Meik with 
the title-deeds of the Mary well property. " A 
reference to this person/' W. E. says, *' would 
easily ascertain the fact." Yes, if, without the 
intervention of Mr. llomo.t we could communi- 
cate with a man who has been probably a hun- 
dred and fifty years in his grave I How should I 
be presumed to know anything of the descendants 
of Mr. Meik ? The marriage contract of my great- 
grand-aunt Kathrin Hogcr, in my possession, exe- 
cuted *' Att Coupargrange the seventeen day of 
November ane tuousand Seven hunder and sex- 
teen years," to whicli the name of one '* Thomas 
Meik," specifically designed " of Maryuell," is one 
of the subscribing witnesses, sufficiently vouches 
my statement both as to the individual and the 
name of the property which he owned. Here is 
a literal transcript of the testing clause, together 
with the respective signotures thereto appended : 

" Theur pret" in uitnes qrof iiriten on stamp paper Con- 
form to lau by .fames Stewart Servitor to Patrick Zea- 
men Clerk of the rejjnlity of Kermr [Kerricmuir] both 
partjB And the S** Georpu l^>d|re^ [Roofer] have Subvcd 
these pret» day moneth year and place forS*" Before 
There uitncsso* Thomat 'Mrik of Marguell The S** 
"William Rodger [Roi^orl John Lauson all the bridge of 
Den William Kea in MikIo Jamei Of^ilby in Cupar- 
grange & the S** Patrick Ypamaii and James Steunrt as 
allsoe William Irland orPiirkhcad. 

"Tho: Meik W-itness John .Stenert 

William Roger Witness (;oro Ko<iKR 

James Ogilvy Wittno.«s V. Zeaman Witness 

James Stewart Titncs 
W™ Irland WitinesH.'" 

Should W. E. have any mental reservation as 
to the existence and authenticity of this docu- 
ment, I shall be willing to submit it to the e.rpe- 

* " A Treatise on Church Lands and Tithes, bv William 
Forbeo, Advocat. Edinburgh, 1705." 
t D, D. Home, the spirit medium. 

rimontum cruets of an examination by the Editor 
of *' X. & Q.'* The Session Records of Bendochy 
reach back to the yejir 1048. Previous to tlufl, 
if we except the very meagre information of 
the heraldic sculpture alluded to in a fonaer 
communication — which cives the letters G and B 
conjoined, and the date 1581 — the only aathentie 
notice of the family within my knowledge is the 
Will of "William Roger in Coupargrange,'" of 
which probate appears to have been obtained on 
July 18, 1583. A transcript of this will be fosal 
in the General Commissariat Regiater, Genoil 
Register House, Edinburgh. If W. E. will dim 
his f>ico^ti!o and communicate with me dneet,! 
shall be glad to aid him in his inquiry hjtaj 
means in my power. Besides unneceMuily 
occupying the columns of '* N. & Q." with mitter j 
relatively unimportant, it is irksome to maintain ■ 
public correspondence in relation to mere fiiaulT 
nistory in no way interesting to the 
reader. J. C. Bog 

13. New Inn, W.C. 

(4"' S. v. 32.) 

The helm on the second great seal of Richard I. 
appears surmounted by a kind of cap charged iritk 
a lion passant, the whole surmounted by a ftih 
liko ornament. Tbe next earliest example at I 
seal is that of Henry de Laci, Earl of LmcalOf c 
1272, Similar fan-like crests appear on the leui 
of Edmund Crouchback, Earl of Lanca5ter,r. 128^ 
Alexander dc Balliol, c, 1202 (engraved in Boo- 
tell's Arms and Armour^ 101), and Henry di 
IVrci, 1300. In BoutcU's EnylitJi Heraldry (218) 
is a capital example of a figure which be^ to 
supersede the fan crests from the seal of Thosu^ 
second Earl of Lancaster, 1320. Tall spikes iren 
at this period placed on each side of the cw^ 
intended at first to display the cotttotse or UAft 
scarf or favour. The seal of Ralph de Montli*^ 
mer, Earl of Gloucester, c. 1323, has on the hda 
an eagle crest and a coutoise. The latter dinp- 
peared in the middle of the fourteenth coituT. 
After that the crest appears upon a wreath (per- 
haps derived by the Crusaders from tho tniW 
of the Saracens) or coronet 

Crests arc shown on the helms of the kiii|^ 
fighting in Shaw's Dresses and Decoratiomj & 
1200 (from Royal MS. Brit. Mus., 20, D. 1.) h 
the Loutterell Psalter (executed for Sir Geoffiej' 
Loiittcrell, who died in 1345) that nobleman tf 
represented with a sort of ornamentally ehiprf 
aifeUr on his tilting helmet, charged with luf 
arms (nz. a bend between six martlets aig.). M 
is a capital example of a knight arrayed for tbt 
silt, and is engraved in Fairholt's Costumetp-fB- 

The custom of conferring crests as disfiiittvii^' 
ing marks originated with Edward HI, inoy ^ 

4*S,V. jA».«,'7ft.] 


1333| granted oue <au eaj^le) to 'VN'iUiam Mont- 
acDte^ Earl of Snliabury. Four yenrs nftor the 
gnmt of this crest was mode liereditary, and tho 
nunor of Wudeton ^veu to support ita diguity. 
CrviU wuit have Iweii commou in Chaucer's time 
from hU dewription of the one borne by Sir 
Tbopea — 



V\wn Jiia cTtttl he bore a tour, 
And ttwrclu fliilieth a lily flour. 

\a early figure crest is the lion crowned, and 
m*d by Edwiird HI. Tho great famitie» of 
ovrard and Percy have for centurica borne the 
Ucm crefit. The former was grontc^d to Thomas 
Uohny hyf Kichard II. 

A fine tiltin^^ helmet and crest is shown on the 
seal of Sir Tbvoias de Beauchaznp, K.G. 1^44 
(Bouttll'd Arms and Armour^ 104). 

lu mouuuifutul braseei* the tiltjug belmet with 
c-reat is fre*iuently well ahown. Exampleu : Sir 
llugli Hastink'^, EUin;;:, Norfolk, 1:^7: matrix of 
bnM of Sir Jno. Riviure (l'J6f>), Tonnarton, Olou- 
ccAtenbire ; Lord John Ilarswick (l'^4), Soulh- 
acre, Norfolk ; Sir W'iUinm Bryenue (1305), Seal, 
Krnt, Thedc are ongravcd in Ilninea' Monumtm- 
f.ii liraitt*. On liic brftfw of Lord Stourton, a.d. 
.■i'.'4, at Sawtry, Huniii, ia a curioua crest — a 
i-niouk ■^ro^uini; n ecourgo of knotted cord& — 
tiu^' crest uurived from the fumily of Mut/ne. 
xttty elaborutv tilting helmetf Buriuouuted by a 
u'b bend, appears ou the bniss of Sir Jubu 
yton (1411/, Dorcbest'jr, Oxon. 
Tn tb** r?gijil*-'r-book of St, Alban's Is a bcauti- 
'r.j of Robert Chamberlain, esquire to 
. 1417. His bftscincl thus to ft point, 
whuh in pbiced a hollow tube to rec4;ive the 
Of plume of feathers. The bead of the 
igy of Richard 13eauchftmp, Earl of Warwick, 
14S5y in the IWucJmmp Chapel, Wiirwick (nno 
the fine&t etii<jie^ extunt), rens ou a iiue lilting 

John Lord Lysle^ K.(r., ha? a curious crest on 
^«rU-r-plfttc*, « tmii-^otic onj. pfckrd gaf/ie. 
Tin: .r.ii ' li ■ »W ,)f the Bourchiera is ehowu on 
rw ' plates. 

I ( 'itriofiiiif* of IfrralJrt/, sftys 

e CTe$t o( one of the Eclii«v:hani l«inily, 
i-linn mnipant," on a heliut-t in Iu'hin<^- 
U of wood ; aud that of a 
. family in Laughton Church, 
jl (A iK'acck), is of iron. Boutell, in hit) 
aiilfy fii/ftoncal and Popular (Bentloy, 1804), 
good many eugraviuffs of crests on helms, 
re is a liiiu plate of the same in Lacroix's 
"AHi au Mu^en Aj/e, Paris, ISUD (t^). 
Xour corrt;5poiideut is quite right in auppos- 
i' 1VVU of the helmet was aomelimes 

It.' shape of pome hcrnldic monster. 
IJ 1 ' n {Anajt fuul ArmouTf 208) engraves a 
&u bixiri'Ullk century Italian example of tho £ort 

in tho Artillefy Mnseam, Paris, and also some 
remarkable ones in the Ruf>sinn Imperial Museum. 
Jonx PiOGOT, Ju»., F.S.A. 

In the Caaile of Krbach, situated about twelve 
English miles north of Kberbaeh, on the Nockar, 
and in the centre of the Odenwald, there ore 
three tilting helmets with theix tournament crests 
still attached to them, and iu the same state aa 
when they were used. These crests are made 
of light wood or pasteloard, and are between 
three aud four feet high, and hare rather a comic i 
appearance. I forgtt to whom they belonged, 
but 1 remember that one had the ustial wings^ 
and another the very coaimou horns (or trumpets) 
spreading out on each side of a central crest. I 
imagine that the crest was very seldom used in 
battle, the knights beiug dibtinguushed by their 
banners; but wheu u.sed, then small, made of iron, 
and screwed into the helmet. The castle I men- 
tion is the residence of thu Counts of Erbach- 
Erbach ; it contains au extraordinary coUectiou 
of antlers, chiefly moustroBilies, and is yreU worth 
visiting when stopping at ileidLdberg. 


The crest worn on tho helmet was carved in, 
light vrood. The difficulty of shaping it, and thej 
necessarily serious increase of weignt to the heli 
precluded its being made of iron. Illustrfttioiifl 
crests attached to the helmet may be seen on * 
stall-plates at Westminster Abbey and St Oeorge% 
Chapel. Windsor, and in most books on hernlcu^, 
&c. What I**. M. S. alludes to, oa having sean m 
an engraving, was probably a winged helmet— a 
form not uncommon in the tifteenth and pixteent" 
centuries, aud a specimen of which is in thft' 
Tower Armoury. These wings were of iron. Some 
of the ontiuue Roman helmeU had animals on 
them wrought in m-jtal ; but thc*e, and the aboTe- 
mentioned wings, were not heraldic cresta. 

I*. E. Ma£XT. 

There are in the collection of the Palazzo Pro- 
lorio hi»re in Florence two helmets, Inith of which 
have tho tops fashioned into crests. One is very 
remarkable, and certainly retiembloa the helmets 
figured by Kaulbach aud other German arti»ts. It 
is of the fifteenth cyntury. The present Marq^uis of 
Westminster has liad it faithfully copied in metal, 
and it is now in hi* possession. W. B. S, 

Palaxzo Gifigni, Florcncv, Jan. \% 1870. 

Your correspondent F. M. S. will find a great 
variety of crests on helmets above tho coats of 
arms of the principal royal and noble houses of 
Europe in — 

** Hiatoria Iiujgnium illustrium ecu operia He 
pnrfi Specialis, etc. tutore Pbilippo Jacobo Spenero 

100 NOTES A^D QUERIES. [i«*s.Y. jA«,2j,«aL 

FrAitoforti td Han. Impenslifl Joamife Bftridb ZuAneri; ; " MJadsm,^! tnok tii€ Kbtrt^oflmiiai^t* roiirlM^ai 
1680.** , r ship, .tariKi' vfiurt A^:>, upoji ihe^ w^n oi aq f>ld>e^uii4i^ 

T JVew]Ae Aome in :— . 'I l»nce;,Hli«t\vou vk^h ogl *<> gotiii ^w U rciurti m^ wi a 

" Jrter Wei« Kunip. EineErzehlangvoa. *« .lhiito» ^^e hwiyiir 0^"™*^ i^Jidx-^lifp^s f^^lr, ^^a I^flrtkuleffW 
K-i*CT MftximiluD d« Enrten. von Marx TreitzMur- ! ^j^.j ^^^^ pil+^tht Dakfe bfStl.(.i»l>cT(fr voisrW-ai 

with many curious woodcuta by IIiuis Bui^fntAir, ' dral, wkere I tiar^ tlu^ Uunwir t^ 4>t^ dntp. ■ - t < j-^n 
wlieiv • jnuffht srmed cap-»-pte is wmroseiittd r "^ Tim t:haiJUT :mitil haviin; jefle^i^M.! vkh, muct ^^pK. 
with a created helmet, P. A. L. f arn t^nt iV.: '■'^'o^^^^* '^^ » i:«i«<r so foriowuod d! crrf 

_^_^_ I Eurupp, and so htsiiily rii^erriDjr both of Knii[^D<a l»f" 

■ ' tliiif kirtf^^m, nliAUUl'lk ob«<iaT«>y 'wtihout *t)7 tovoi^' 

Amongst the rcproduOtioiM in th» South Coori * ment tivc-r him, b^vt made t formal tvtisr- hi ftiU a^ ^ 
of.the South Kensington Museum F. M. i^. will \ «mW:t',v*&rt«f iM^y*!* "Pos™^"fi**=*i-^tJuf I *M4^ 
find a copy of the helmet of Francis I. and others . J*' *^*f^ ^^ j^jpreaent tti9 ow^iyru. your^H ,i 
.*- . fv "* tMu Mc^ww*. w.. xjcwtv^A. *«*^ "»***'*•'■• to naiuwt that vouwoQldplfasie to 4s.*Jku what mixleri^a 
rising inti a crest in the. wuv he mjationj. . . Bum vou think lit to erect npkm morMftm^iOinnent »w ' 
, ; J' RANK ilEDE Fo W£K | b» gfavc : it shall he submitted to your Ladyship wkMi^ 
7i. Warwick GarilenSpKcQsibgton. , .■ . I y<>u *iil chuse to get an ppttaph* drawn oy aooMtnmA 

^ ' ■ •■ ' I 0f your awn, or leave it to H5. , , 

. ; — [ j " Tour Lodjship may be firnity aanMd- Chak^'lM 

niTKC nv KPHn\fHRVP»« \invT'MF\rT meney, be it mora or leas, ah«U<ba.teld''onl nth.-ftl'' 

DUKE OF SCHOMBDKG'S UOMMEM. -, ^^„^g^ maBasamept, beetiiaaitia a waU^iriM. 

(4**'S. iv.-fiiO.) ! the cliapttr amU ha\'e much at heart. ,,:.j. 

T — A »r* -n*— *--.♦« • - • ^ al '* I «nd till'* letter tiwler cover to Sir (^wveni IVAM* 

In Wflwer to Mn. Po2«^oyBY*8 inquiry some of y^i„„ ^vhollr iijuorant ytht^h io rAAt^^ jdu? La^yAft^r 
(he efforts and entreaties made to induce tm> r " . ' ** 1 am, w$tbgt««t resnMC, - ^ --^ 

descendants of Frederick TMke of Schomherg to ' = - - r*Jladai4,"ft«irvv- 

ercct ft monument to his rnemoiy are recorded ia' 
Mason's Hittonj of St..Piifinrfc'g Churchy DuUin* 
(1820)} find will 1)6 foitiid in the appendix of notes 
to that volume (A. Mi.). 
Swift seems to have written oIRciaUy as well 

" Deonery Hqow, : :,. Ji.iVff 

May22,l729." . . ;,. . ' //.;:M 

Thi'se and, we mar presume, other aeaoftRl 
strancea haviug {irarBd futiie, tjic doa& ia-4bve 
year 1731 erected tJio monkimeat which atitt-lKMtf; 
na indivldufdiy to the Countess 6t Tfoldemea^ a ronapicuoua place iii ihe-eisle of 8i^ Ihttallfitt 
<th6.{STaAddau^hter of the llhiatHcnis duke), bnt CathednU -^ a iDrge plain elab of blade ^maiUmi: 
without the courtesy of ah answer. la Vajr l72d' fiied hi;ch' in the .waU, bearm; tbd.lDUolrilg^ 
the deao yrot^. to lird Carteret characteristicalty ! i ■■ ..:*'.•:.:•■ -i^ni 

aatfiTipV7fi:— j 'J ilir infra situm est corpus Ff0^iinH« DtOOliM^ =<^' 

« the great Ditke of ,SchomtJci>5 ia' bWried under jha SciiuyBEiiu ad BuUindujn oc^v *•»>■, H??.^;* .. 

aliar iu my cathedral. Uy Lady lloIdemeflS- is my old | Decanufi et Capitulom nvixinKy»9r^:«tiain^itiaiii ]ti%. 
nognaintance, and 1 writ to her aboat it small sani to 1 riint ut hiercdea I^ocis tmntmnentum in ™^™*^'[^£:j 
maW a montiOMrit for her grindfafher.' I writ toiler ( rcntin crigviidam eurareatl fifetf pOrt^am ^ 9fi mUh ' 
myself: and also thcrs was a letter from the. denn and j per amioos dtu aa ssepa oraadn all pro£»CM*BuBc4<B^ 
cluptei*, to ilesire ahf would onl«^r a monvmeot to bo | fapidcm ataiiaaruati 6«U*m <i»;«Ma hn»t>cl|,u hip sH M 
jaivdifor him in my cothttdral. Jt seems MUdmayt now rarum ■■••....: i ■ '.,■-..■ - r- '*' ^lA 

Lord Fitzwalter, her husband, is a covetous tellow ; or, Scuo:fiiEUUESftEscfteres.'deKEieacant." ,^ ] 

whatever fs the watler, we have nri answer. I d*»i»v ; pio« notuik famA virtati* «n«.i..^ii«im« mimh. ^vmH^ 

Akyptainditoma)roamoauaKntfwth«o1ddDkfl,i and^ ' / n ., . ^ 

tho thapter will eract a anull 009 of ouwlveit fur ten < Caustic as these lines, aro, Swift ijafonai Htp 
l>«unds ; wherein it shall bo cxpraHsed that the posterity ; n letter to the Counter of Suffolk (^^ulj.S.^ ^V 
«{ *'iJj\"*i*. ~»"»nfc' .particularly Lady HoIOerness and ; ^hat he had omitted panagqa whwU "W-WW 
iS^?tei"Cfro^JA»wiTt„'^t?r/» fxT^ Wtteraej^.m them and th»the M 4oa,^ 
they pretend ther will send for hia bodv, let thera know the advice of his chapter. One of these omiaWWV 
it ia mine : and rather than send it, I will taka up the 1 Dr. Delany telld us, was as follows : — Inatead jp 
bones ojid make of it a akdeton, and put it iu my register I " saltern ut scias hoapea," etc, it atood thi)»;. 
office, to be a memorial of their basenwis to all posterity. 11 g^teiil ut aciat riator indimahuudttf aaaU JUtt 
Tbi>» I expect your cxcellcncv ^111 tell Mr. Mildmay, or. ^ | ^^^ dnctoria ciitezea dtOiteacuot" . ■ 
oa Tou now eall him, I/>ra Kitswaltor: and I eJtpeit ^'J""^* "*"" ^*«»-wiia ^''^^^ '™*™™'* 
likewiao that he wiU Ut Sir Conycra D'Arrv know how , „. ^ , ItOBKRT MAtCOMMV. 

ill 1 tak^f hia neglect in thia matter, although, to do him Conrt Place, Gurlow. 

justice, he averred 'that Milduiay woa so avaricious a . ..i( 

wretch that he wouM let hia own father be buried with- -\viU OoL. P0N8OWDT exwwe me if I vmtm to- 
ont a coffin to save cbargt^s.'" , ^^ ^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ Frederic Ann»d di 

Swift's letter to the Countess of Iloldomees, to j Schowherjr when he came to England ofaaagedhii 
which he alludes in the foregoing, is entered in , family name to Schowberg? . t*^- 

the hook of chapter-minutes, and is as follows : — , I have now before me two prt>6fir thtft if w 

aV. Jah.M.To.] 



— LdJ.S 

ige vrna made, it was not at all eveiiU per- 

tfly or «mfbniriy Rdberf'' *" '*' ■* t^n-^ iW a 

l*tt<T liiited Li-iburne, Dec. timft 

tbor-^'"' ■<''^r Oie Maralml n.;..., ...... , ..itrj), 

KT. ; tii& appoiuttaent of a comaii^-sioner 

in i......i tor the octtor carrjia^ on of tbtif 

MmjmH^s' sorvket" ntid si^rocd iti )^ ^ol^l hand 
iIktu'-" Th" othf-r pT>vif 1.4 nn imere«tinff 

v'retHry or 
iu indorsed^ 

pour i>rttd {U'oohaijit^ ili^iui^ par 

»A tV 8p! I may al99 refef to a por* 

. r IVed. Arm. Duke of Hcliim- 
l>cr- tbia lathe only iustrmce -wber* 

ih^ iiauw ii bu ypeltitt A pri^it ' TI. T. 

jAum HUWEXT ^"^ S. in. 32, 200; v. lO'.*^' 
* " e sort of otttffivm ffothentm, uudurtlju above 
inp, by nn oclojrrnariaii, nti orroneous suppo 
rni ii hft7ardi?d, wbiL-h i»«rhaps bo will allow 
a Bej>tuugeDariaD, wbo is well acijuftinted wUb 
thtf li^ctiTity luLroducedj t4 rectilV* Tbe writer 
fipeikks of Mr. Ma^U's boarding-school, Barr, near 
Walvflll, aud adds "uow, I think, a nannery." 
Mr. Wriohp has confounded Barr with OycoH, 
daataot fr<>m it aboDttwa miles. Tbe old coUego 
atOHCott,»omeyenr9 nfber it«iDraateshRd remorod 
to thn n ■■ • '-^'■'T' near Erdington, wju converted 
bvBiidi me in 1S*'S]^ not exactly into a 

Bimaarv. .,»;...:■ an orphnnngt^forfemHlo orphans 

C' imrI auder the cnre of tbe Sifters of Mem'. I 
Te no doubt tbat tbo orphanage nt Old Oaoqtt ia 
tix« anppoaMl suuntiiy. J?,, 0.* H* 

". ro!;5i»ici'or.-^ ur their AB^fesci;" 

^1.)— Prefixing, for tUo 8ftk« of dia- 
^ 'Vu beauiog, I u0er from my 
t iuij oxtmcis by way of reply to 

'^f^'Xi ■» A^ Habbt Saitdrrs which ia tb« 
first of thoae headed " QuntationH wanted " : '— 

J, " CIi«p. Ixxii. Otncerning Snakes. — No dnaUcs of 
■ftir Ifail are to b« met whh througtroiic th» vbola 

"!L>win^ foot-note : — 
.^yn U is owing-to the e^roesilre coM 
r* round In Imlaml.** ■ 

.01 of ft book heaiitaig itiefblTow- 

<iit.ii;iiiur a p»rtl- 


1^. Inter- 

. :. ,_ 1 r, AXKitrTi^OO, 

Tu wliiuli is added a i 

..irka. ']'ninb]are<l from I 

i^'inui or Mr. .>. Hrtrn-h-rtv ; and il!«3- | 

lev Ucnrtal Map of tko Uland. London ' 

wr I 

Ixxli. — JJa Serpeatu—W n'y a pas de . 
>mme £t Tort lien I'Autcur: in«i« H < 

w trompo PT1 fltfrlhuAnt In rn'Mnn a tn ripueor rtii cllmar. 
J'ai moarqu* ulos hau^ que le froid uVt6 ri:\'i vlui ox*, j 
cevif en leland*' qu'eu DAMcmarck ; a\ - oqji-;4|< 

pourroivnt done bien y virre. Quoi qu ;! «(. 

niir qii'il ub »'y en trMiivo point, et Je ; <]U?' 

I'oa y on pOTtin jams ta" 

This ia in tome L p. 026 of the loUowmg.i^, 

bOCUlJ^'^^i , ,,' I ,ii, ( 1 vri ktii-ifutJi^A .■ 1.., I ,)-, Y.-ft.:j »l ';^ 

7I>vKTi|iliaah;- i , 1 I'UluHle. ^ 

avec d' n tjb6iT\ ! irii naturclio *lc ., 

OPtlc i?]c, Jonit'-' ,-. .: ' jrage UdJuit il'a 

I'jillemand (Ic M. Jiorrcbovr, qui v a ele enroyrf per 
le Itffi lit Daueaiariii. TwMfiti, i t^nu. 1766^' . i t./. 

Perbnps some one cAn jnippiy thb !n?tidb j i.f^^* 
this unJijue thnpter, 'and the chapter iCiel^-tt'r 
tliey staiij^ ittthe oripinal wnrtc: ' ' ' ■'' p"^" 

■•'•'''■■''■ JnitN U03KTffa-AB&A.HALL.^ 

Combe Vicarage, near Wooostocc. 

An vrxoticed FnAOHnxT bt Drin Swift 
(4" S. V. 4.) — Mb. C. W. Button must oxAwa 
me if, before 1 can aoocpt tbe fnig'ment he pro- 
duetts from the Mtyrmni/ Jlerald of October 11. 
1327,03 a ^unino protluction of Dean Swift, l^j 
veature to ask for soipe informatJun aa to tbo' ^ 
evidence on which it ia ao attrihut^id, 1^.'.. a tli.. 
Jl/orwi/jy Jltrald i\ have not tho file to i 
0^ve any explanation oa to the dnuree from v. :...._. 
it came, nnd whether tbo ori^ipai waa priatcd . 
or iu mmjuacript ; and if tho Jiittcr, woother 
it waa in tbe JJean's auto^^ri^pb P External eifi- ,, 
deuce ia certainly required to aupport ita authefiT, w 
ticity, fur the iutemol ie anythm^ but aaliafac-^^ 
tory. Tbe letter i^ much more lijte the productioaf ^ 
of ail imitator and enemy of the Dean than q(^ 
that Kieat writer bimpelf. It has nnither tlie 
Dean^ oricinal point? or power of writing', and ia,^ 
ft very inferior composiluMi. , Th^n is it a£ all'!" 
probaolo that Swift, referrinf^ to himselfr< would- 
eay that he hod the good fortune not to einbar'- 
raas himaelf much Xdurin^ tho course of lite - 
ministry) about the cure of souls; that, had h^ ? 

not sworn tho peace ogainat iLo muUtfu :i" *■ "f 

a little lawyer of that citv (Dublin), hn 1 
put out of countiftanee ail the days of hu i..v, ^ 
not atruck quite dead ; an*l further, thai he de- 
sired to \\ay a Bpeedy Tisit to London, an-l i^ouh! 
laugh, ridicule, and flatter them (the i 
into what h«pleaaed— some he*d bamoooy.1 
he'd drink into compliaoce^ and in abort, wfailat 
punning, wit^ and itnpudonoe were above pTound 
(tbev ne^) never fear P This ia the lan^ngc 
surely of a would-be saliriat of Swift and not 
of Swift himself. Till ^ therefore, some ovidunce 
in given of tho ^reQuinciicaa of what Mr. C. W. 
StrrroN fitvlef "this charncteri^itic letter by tb* 
Dean of St. Patrick'?/' I do not think it will' 
have much chance of being included in the ne^t 
edition of Swift's works. 

Swift, it must be remembered, "had many !tflt- 
tators of more or leas clevemesa and popularity,' 



[4*8. V. Jai.S.'TO. 

One of the best imitations of him that I Ain ac- 

Juunted with, and that not a semle onej is " the 
)edlcation to Pope Clement the 11th," prefixed 
to Steele's Account of the Stat^ of the Soman 

statement, that the monks of this abhey iren 
adected bv the statute of mortmun, is erroneou. 
What is Mb. Bbdo'b anthoritr for tills aaiertuii' 
and where does Lewis oontraoict himself on tUs 

Catholic Religion throttghoid the Worlds and which, . point ? I know all be aajs at pi. 3i of lua lui- 
though Steele's name is attached to it, is known tory. 

to have been written hy Bishop Iloadly. That I I did not admit that a mason would be wasttd 
and another short niece or two are the salt and in repairing the old houses. Mb. Bkdo evidently 
condiment of the Bishop's works in three porten- I confounds a mason with a plasterer. The calcu' 
tons folios, which always appear to me, when I see ! lation entered into by Mb. Bbbo does not otbt- 
them fixed on a shelf, as a literary mausoleum, , throw my statement that the avenge lent «m 
dedicated to Low Church controversy. ' about ten shillings a house. I took the knon 

J AS. Cbosslkt. ' rental of twenty-three houses, all I could 
[Before this letter appcanKl ia ** X. A Q." we consalted ; 
the Morning HrraM of that date, where it is printed with- i 
oat any editorial remark aa to tlie source whence it was \ 
obtaiDed.— £i>.] 

The Dun'mow Flitch (4*" S. iv. 194, 262; ' 
V. 10.)— Dr. Bell, in his Shaketiieare'sPuck (i. 17), ! 
says the custom of hanging up Hitches, perhaps as ' its favour), and tfie Orvland who inhaHtsd it 

tain. Mb. Bbdo takes the rent of one mif d 
these twenty-three, and quietly sssumes that it 
WRS " a good house," and inhabited by a mis 
"belonging to one of the best families." Tbe 
house may or may not have been a good hoose 
(its position in Hogmarket Lane is not mnch is 

a reward for fecundity in the marriage state, is 
interwoven into the earliest popular antiquities of 
the Komans ; for Spence, in his PolyntHia (p. 280), 
has the following passage : — 

" Alba Longn ia a place where ^neas met with the 
white sow and thirty pipra, and here was a very fine flitch 
of bacun k^pt in the chief toinple ereo to Aagustos'i 
time, as I find recorded in that excellent historian Diony- 
siofl Balicaroasseniiis." 

(qy. owned it after the Dissolution P) may or wtf 
not hare been the Dryland referred to by Mk 

Where does Southouse or any other bistorin 
say these twenty- three houses were only "Hht 
important houses"? One of them produeBd 
ttothinff annually, yet I am required to befisn 
this was *' an important house." If it wen. iM 
did the unimportant ones fetch P Suielf ths 
abbot must have paid people to live in them. 

J. M. COTTPtt 

This sow with thirtypi^ was an emblem of 
fertility (Montfauc. A. £. i. 323.) According to 
tradition, a sow was the means of the brine-spring 
of Liineburg, and part of her is still preserved 
there, the date of which must be fixed before the 
Christian era. Some of the bones boiled and 
charred are preserved iu a lanthom over the green- 
baize table of the room of assembly, hence termed 
the ** Schincken-stube *' or ham-room. Dr. Bell 
copied the insicription on this lanthorn — 

•* Hie tibi cernere licet reliquias Porci qui primus 
aqnaruiDf qua: Luncburgn Salzuc scatent, remrtur dici- 

Swino were held in g^at veneration in the 
North, and the sacrifice of this animal was fre- 
quently demanded hy the deities of Italy. In 
Tettau aud Torame's Volkssagen (ii, 25) is an ac- 
count of the utforing of a fiitch of bacon by the 

heathen Prussians to Perounnos, their micrhty 1 '^' /.* ^ x> 

J -^ . ' e J I qmte so uncommon as G. K 

"A mighty deity of the heathen Prussians was Per- 
cuanos. An eternal lire was kept hurain;:; before him, 
fed by oalc bilktH. \U. was the god of thunder and of 
fertility, aud he wa^ therefore invoked for rain and fair 
weiither ; and in thunderstorms a flitch of bacon {Speck- 
aeite') wus ofTered to him." 


Guild of JfAsoxn at Faversham Abbey (4* 
S. iv. 310, 374, 4f.O, 510, 570.)— Mr. Bkdo is 
welcome to the last word on thL* subject if he 
will only jnve an authority for it. In his last 
communicution to *'N. &'Q." he says Lewis's 

PoBTRAiT OF Db. Watts (4"» 3. iv. 453.)^ 
portrait, en^aved by S. Freeman, agreeing irith 
the description of J. C. J. mav be found ia 6> Q> 
Cunningham's Lives of Eminent and Ilbuinm 
Etifflishmenj 1837, iv. 280. 0. W.S. 

".Thk Fobest School Magazine" (4* S. t. 
14.) — With reference to the query of your com- 
snondent, I hasten to assure him, in the abaeoce of 
tne editor, that this magazine is " still in ciiil^ 
ence/' and that its promoters vrill, no doubt le 
happy to hear from him after the IT^ofJV'P 
the day on which the school reaasembles. 

F. Babxow Ovt, Head MAwa 

Makrtage n? A Pbesbyteriak Ghubck (4* 
S. iv. 477.) — Scots marriages in church in vA 
quite so uncommon as G. K. supposes. Aboot 
, two years a^o at Northosk church, MusseHmqJ, 
the parish mmister married four or five coudeiiD 
one day. In St Vigeana' parish, county rozbTf 
it is still the practice, at leaat among the fiihv 
community, to get married in church. TheaeV* 
staunch cnurch folks, exceedingly tenadoai rf 
old customs, and for the most part consider a 
marriage celebrated in their house no marrisgA^ 
all. At the church of Guthrie, another paiuB >■ 
the same presbytery, marriages have been cell- 
brated witnin the last two or three yean to v^ 
knowledge. I hare never heard of a mazriigB n 


4»8.V. Jan. 2i, 'TO.] 



aftw^'V'---" ^- — ^'inpplaoo of "wonhip, Imt I 
4m0t} iitnnce would fuTnifih many 

aSiJOtiofi'o |M-"'..- ..1.U this cufftom, which our 
OtW-Malous !*r(it<>atfintum has too lonjj: dia- 
ooantennnoed, is noi now very raro in the church 
fi8ooU*na. W. F. 

SXTTKK, !5flo (4»' 8. V. 33.)— In defence of a 
fllof^le work from which 1 have r^coivod nmch 
•id, allow riv to nxstire h. that Hnhn'a wUtinn of 
lyiwntlef do^3 fumi.>jh uotic^s of both the works to 
whidi he caII^ Littention. I will direct him to 
tl»e »riiclL'f, Icflving the rest of bis query tn the 
re I', genllemwi nf whom he requests it. Under 
tba heading "Sntirfs" L. will find in the first 
rk to which he alludes: — 
Satyro or Poesie, wliereiu is discovered 
if HpRvnc «nd the cbief Lrartpm of llie 
liod over and laid open in th4*ir 
<mcd oDt of French ioto KoglUb. 

noiK- -' t 

1' wri 


Tkui Mtliro WW 
For TftmvrlAni^, Rce, under tbftt heftdinfr^ among 

entitled bj its French author 


There L. 


ICP0, one to Bee, Jean du. 

notice : — 

*" '. nf Mortim*r, TTUlory of tho 
uu'. iifwly tr.iti<>tKt«<I oat of 
i i. iL lot*;, 4to, np. 205. VVur- 
!■<:> .'. ' J '•: . lual piL'li^Uy tbo ttury of Tamciiano was 
■ '!■ i 111 our lilcratare by mcana ofthU work." 

J. A. G. 


CiiXMTvmr ** (4^" S. \v. 530.) — I remeinber, when 

« \oy »t Cheiirn school many years ago, hnving 

thii little book nhic'd iu my hands by the late 

Il«r. Joxiif^ Wildiii;.-, the then master, ss the 

work of Williiim Gilpin, who foruierlv kept the 

ttsno achoal. It is not indeed included in the 

&«t of his work;* given in Ho.^'e Bunjraphtad 

hiiu'tirr / Tli'-rc was ft tradition amonjjst ua 

wjw th'i orii^'inal Dr. Syntax, 

..■! S^'arrh oftfw Pictifresqiu was 

•f his Tour to th« Lahet. 

:>1 tb« historlnn, luentionod 

:i by your correspondent, waa 

tue flchool. 

RicRAJin IIiix SAXDTa. 
to.rtmidcry Lane. 

:iUTE*tf Morro (J*'' .S, iv. 37a) — 

rEKKTSus or tJie compositor in the 

i'lJi Midi UastfUc haa, by wrong'ly eprUing^ one 

»»ud, made Ihis motto mean what it wn-i in- 

Dot to mean. Otpyr, " miyn/' is put in the 

of Ginr, "truth ;'* $o that tho words Maud 

n-hyn y 1'ifdt *' The men o>:aiust the 

i.» of Y Otffir tfu rrht/n y ht/d, " The 

^"" ■ '" " "V" If Mk. T^NMSOy )\A9 

till, it 'iA simulv (I mi-iUVL', 
when WeUli words are 

intended to bo used by those who do not know 
the Inngiiage or do not u«e a dictionarv. 

"The men against the world ' might implr 
that those uF-inp the motto were men who defy 
the wi>rld; or if physical force was a notion not 
adopted, it would teach that "men" (the majority, 
I suppose ), wore the autfiority, not ^rf/M — an 
opinion which you oerUunlv would not endorse in 

Jawes TRi.Pim (S'* S. xii. 2-l!?, 352, 4«1, CS3 ; 
4** 8. I 108, 249.)— I tare already had my say 
as to this poet, yet I desire, with }o'ur permission, 
to sdd the following note, considering it, in con- 
nection with the subject; worthy of preserratton 
in your pages : — 

" It ira» ft sig^ht in itwlf for an obyerrer, foiitl of the 
qnccrer etching.^ of humnn character, to get hi* eye on 
Telfer at a Newcastle book-atall. Thfre wan about hhn 
the port of a tranquil, modest man. Hm rain-bcatea 
white bat, IcUing of a of wvt fveathcr nbout Bnuf^h- 
trco and Daston Uurn ; the vrcW tt-nuket foldi of his 
aitld ^ay (ilaid hitched orer hi.i left ftlioulder; bU big, 
awkward framework, with that uiipresuinirig poik-pitted 
face, and the knowing lobk and -dga of inward comfort 
with wliiiih he hAn^llcl and hf.fhJ bctwroti the rarer old 
booki«, would hiivc given the hint to nn uli'^orviT of cha- 
racter that this vaL-ation visitor wm not a clown, bat had 
tht! »ubtU' something of the 'grand old name uf goatk- 
man' atiout him." 

It may be inlerestinpr to your correspondent 
Mk. J. H. DixoM, to whom your readers ore in- 
debted for the *' first asking" r^.^tpecting Jamea 
Telfer, to know that the above rjuotation is part 
of a very kindly notice of his '' friend and fellow 
ballodist," Mr, Robert White, which oppearcd in 
the Kewearile Daily Journal of October 4, 1800. 

J. Majvckl. 

Newcaatle-on-Tyn e. 

Trra PniusE "Dear Me** (4"' S. v. 41.) — 
Mony years ago, when I was in Italy, I used to 
hear continually, in couvei-sation with Italinus, the 
energetic exclamation Dio mio! ("My God "I) 
Pronounced rapidly, it used always to fall upon 
my ear as " Dear me *' ; and it struck me, at tlut 
time, as being probably the origin of our unmean- 
ing English ejaculation, J. £. J. 

AxTELL OP Bekkhampstead (4*^ S. iv. 478.) — 
The registers of Great Berkhampstead supply the 
following facts : — 

•* William Axlill married Dotritic Symcms, 1 Oct. 

" Oanniell. v* sonne of WlUfam Axtill waa baptised y* 
2&^ of May, 1G22." 

The name, spelt in various ways, is of freqnent 
occurrence in the regiatera, the first entry being 
the Uptism of John Axtell in 1503, and the lo*t 
the biuialof Anno Axtel, an almshouse woman, in 
1734. I think the parents o( f^.^ above William 
iVxtill were married in 1-"j85, July 8— Tin. William 
Axtell and Alice King; but po*rtibly he may luiv« 



[■1»5.T. Ja>.S2,.^j 

bc«n tUo issue of one or oUie« of tW followibg 
iQiiniafi:c6 : — 

" JaUn AjKtell ami KaLberina LHtlebor, 81 Aag-. t66(t 
Jpbn JLxUUiiulAgnos Mgnox, HAprjl'loCI.*' 

4. CEi.RI«IEft J. liORQfSOV. 

> Xorton Canon VicuAj^e. 

LtiNDoN Sm-n Hor&R (4t>' Si, W, SOU) — This 
house fans a Rtone in front boftric^ dal« lOt^O, And I 
have becD infoniH'il that it wns used na (i|H>ftl-lir>iia*? 
attho timo of tiio ria^ae of London ; and after thnt 
it WAS mod m an inn for travullent; nnd also ihnt 
tho ItouM, with a jjarcel of Inndj^t;. Ac, wus giTeu 
by Queen Anne to aumuof th« name of llammctt 
fot lerTicM rendered at tho tifn«* of the Hft<i\i«, 
This infortnAtioo howererU doubtful, and prompls 
me to trt)ubl** you for more reliable infommtiot». 
fefiiwhich I shall feel truly )jrftt«fiil. Within thu 
iMtitflswnty vQori the imitdv bort» the arma of the 
City of London on tho front ' 

<* ' ' ■'■ Kdwart) Vernfh. 

"Cbumble" xh TorooiLiPnicvi. Nasies ,(4'*' 
3, T. 72.)— Id tfiy commimicalivin rcffcrred' to, 
there is a niisprint : for iM read tiiit (the Grolic 
•«*6rd that in compoeiijoh appears as aU or mli 
dropping one i as the KngUsh Worda ** lull " Jud 
'^fifi" dr<T) one/ in"ful8r'J., ' ' , 

\l , . ' Jonx TIo!?KTX«-AiiRAn.ii.L, 

„ThE SXUIRM 4^0 rjiBSHAftOPttY (4'" S, iii; 
532; iv. 20, 13*5. 5^0; v, 42.)— Xotw-itbstfindiug 
Brqtber Jomr YajhlUR's r«Diarl{s, l helit>vy Mk. 
PiNKERTOPf to btt perfiDcUy correct in sUling- that 
Freemasonry only dates from 1717. It wsh tfjuu 
manufactured by I^. DesagiiliBM. Anderson, nnd 
Co. ; and I am not cware of any of the piisawnrdfl 
and eips which -we no-sr hare' beiCg uied by the 
operotivo Masons before that date. AVe have 
many words: the old >ra«on!", as woU as the other 
craft«, had a word, but wbat it waa I cannot sav, 
and 1 have had u^ proof that Brother Yarvkr 
know9. Tho Stiiarta therefore, before 1717, cooM 
not use what did not exist. As to tho remark, 
'* tho proofs unfortunately are not susceptible of 
introduction to your pages," that, in my eypp, is 
apftUry dndffe; although I can easily understand 
thit ** proofs " which only exist in a h^^ated inm- 
^noation, are rather dUlicult of introduction to 
any pages. Brother Yarker has already made 
80 taiiuy mistakes, that I could place no reliiuice 
upon what he aaya unless it was otherwiw sup- 
Dorted. Mb. PraicERTON no doubt hits hard, but 
Masonic pretensions require it— like the cat«, they 
wem to have nine livesu W. P. BucjtAN. 


"Rt^ WITH A BrFFttREXCE" \7i " frAiTLKt " 

(4** S. iv. 650.)— I tTiiBt most sincerely that Mr, 
Sheat's view of thin very interesting pa-^sage may 
not be regarded as final. 

1. Mr. Skeat argues that the difference, in- 
dicated by Shakspeare, consists in the spellinff; 

but Onheltit does not aay Myou irill'ipstf it 
fefently," but "you ioa<t wetv it with 
ence.'' I conclude, thoreforer that th« 
be worn u me in both casea, hut that u; 
tion of wbot that ditfcronco conaiute in 
open for the reader's iuveatij^tion. 1 i 
very strongly to the heraldic view^ because i 
correct to ^ peak of cOat armour ai» "worn \ii 
ditfertoce/' and of uothiu;? «Ue that I know 
2. It is obvious that yhftlvMc^are <li=>^iLa] 
draw a disliuction b*:t^ve€ti t' 
and Ophelia, and ttmt diatinci: 
for in their moral charflc!ers, as I'Tolvrnp 
I cuoMtances under which the langunga of 
I iti applied to each person: for Ophelia ^fiia" 

I n, Tn the paseaM quoted from Jtiahi 
Act III. St, 4, I do not tind any iii*f\nrH 
meaniugf, but only an tA-u^Hon of n 
"rue 14 the sour'herh of ^mcn, ttr. 
sorrow." Here are not tw<^ moni 
explatwiion of the langunj^^ rtf 
there any allu^on to wearing it. 
dropped A tear, and it ia to produ- 

4. Inollttingr to the "heraldic" theory. 1 i 
tinu* thus: Wl»t*n Oeheiia t«k*i* rue for hen 
it'ia in it«d"fined o'laraeter of ''herb-irrace; 
can wear it o* .Sundays,"' wltli -^' -„,..,. ^„.\ 
newt. NM so the (7uei?n ; her 
(an hei-aldie term) by the emi : .; 
and it would he mockery for her to wenr ** 
grace o* Rnndays.'* Ophelia wenr^ h.'r 
pr^itert'f ty\i' recoUe'Ctions of an If ' 
and an atf**ctinnate lover; the <^n ij 

nne^ienr, by bitter recoUf^elinm', \ 
guUtv conwienee, to preserve th<- 
muracred husband and an exiled ^<it. J 
mfc ia u couBtilntinn, tn the Qnwn n pennuw 


ACox*LKrK •' l-'iAsco'" i'V^ - 
fuUowiuj; cutting {nves a 
account of the origin nf tii 
given by your coi; 
it would be as weii ; i 

" ( >ne nf the Kivnch papers giVM the 
of the urifjiu ui lUo LAi>ri'->iv»'!, * Tu 
/UxAcn.' A <nTinar ni 
occupation, thou;; n 
blowinfi-, nnti thut he '■ 
He nccnrilingly comTn*- ;■' 
uufih', but eoultl oiiK- ]-i 
balloon or Httlt] fliiisk \_jMACjt). 
A similar tcfiuluunil &g on ant! 

been inrj(!o. IT' ''■• ■ 

nnfrwio'-ntlr 1> ; 

rmiilt of our I'l < 

Mall iiairtte, iJtu. ^u, l^(ij. 


PTCTrERmoR, rrc, (4'*" S. v. -VS.) — Can 
the early form [or forms) of Pi 






bo'M (, \^ iiitby) I* 
Dhami^u.: in li 

I and Snp*ao: iho former, iinnp. 
\A written firocoiuiv : ia the Abbot's 
' _v-y, HwC" 
16, Broke- 
^■7" *^- - ' ' ■ • - ' iiirriu^ rt, ny, 

^H^ I or Old JMaisD. 

^^B .,■-. u[.rp-:<t forms of Avhich 

^^pt: ay, Tfaordolaa (tho old 

^^^^^^ .. .V 'Kast lUm n^ck, near 

^^Bli^ MO doubt U h O. N. iK tIvbt, 

^HH& ID, the a or ^y will meAu iilet, 

b, as formfdliy a iitromn whn- 
r unlr pwiodicftUy, ia in this 
■ \r iobn. Thns, there muat 
. fwhtm in Clovt^lAnd alone. 
jcii, in its nioro ancient form) is a 
mnt occurwnc*i ia the district Broxa 
nie injtaucoa U \roulJ seem to b« 
f\9 in Jlrolton, Jirougbtooi, boU^ 
In JStOtth-boltf lioiik, Brock- 
nnl (trobftbly supuUtiS the uamo* 
Kit, M'i'UonliSft is '*XboTd'a 
uilly ns likely to b^ Brock> 
rtndl I mny add that, iu 
. the local nnnj^J ThirVy, 
;ah occur. Silpbo, ia tie 
io«d dated 114«>. is wntLi>n 

iii-.w ...... .. rUtMU Silfciu; inl3^K>3Uf- 

Iwv. 'iUi3 6uJlix, in thid caao id, beyond doubty 

the O. 2<i% hmu/r, N* Anw/^t Sw. Ao//, DiXTi. ho/, 

Jwtli AjN'. &C. ;Silf luft} be tho O. Dan. SliIvi, or 

Aiirllai] Sfiuf. Tbo fact that t^e Soiind. Aow ia 

oistAlicw, in tht» dibtrict iu quoa^ 

niuue.4 i» both patent and iutar- 

]ii.iLnjicj 'I'-lv in Oittp liowt! C-"^iigl. 

iLbt o 

ba ^'>^n^ fo, 

Wiu . 


On • 


A I 



' i}Mii» neurSkeUnu, lil-bouo (Angl. 

AVb tAn)|;l. Basiat; or iJoainjL'j, 

ejia>, Potto (nuciently Potbow, 

u^' I'iUt«j— fill in Cleveland, (i&ipe 

rt-Lciuo or Swarth Howe (two or 

I the nnnic), Stnnphow (two of the 

wad niRny others, nre 0. Dan. in both their 

-^-ni-nw. Naturally, out of the vnat number of 

«Wpicu<m.* objfftts which rooat of tbe»e "Cel- 

'"kr:-- ' -■ ■ ' -'--:-. not a fevir would 

■n coloniais, and 
......J., .......i.ivi by the Scaudi- 

I have b«en able to trace cn\r 

: n n n f. 1 j 

,r i>ii 


"J with any 
> atill 


('4'^ S. V. 32.)— Your cor- 

lat the common interprotit- 

JM> phiABes which be <{uoteft is 

.ierivtd from pan, the claws nf 

' . lUid Urn, a field. The word hna 

■ ;aBCBv nmoBfrat -which (in \'ulgar Ian- 

N|ii& itAntfpMv.M Ji'ion ift tiio 194%\\ nidical>« 

and ha,*! tnotsf decMedly tbft diiiMicA) nn^^nin^ 
^'enerally asaigned to it. Two mora ciril mi>df#^ 
of doedgxuitini^ visitors from Afar 'm ■. •: ib« 

celeslialn are e Jin and/fl« jin. T rheso 

chamctors U oompowd of tit, g^niir, u;iii uuh//, a 
bow, and apnarenlly indicates, M h^^ bcftn noWitcd 
ont by Mr. Cbalmers la his OH(/itt of the Chiue$t', 
that tho first foreignarv with wboiii tho inbabi- 
tiiate of the Middle Kin^^oai bad interennraB 
were annod with larger and raoro fomiidFibl© 
wtiapona than the Datives tbcouelrea. /Vai'/ will 
^^e found under the 10f3rd radical, and oaeans a^ 
fitnaUer Atatc It id aded in con t radial actio b tO' 
Au-&, akintcdom. TbuA Morri^<)a^redil*icr>litemlly' 
^rontor and leader a tnto^t} motf^hoiically kingdoniaf 
is'enerBUy. i -.f 

8Jiould ^ii9 ftuairer not Ailly stttiafv ydns eorwl 
r^poudenti no doubt di>iuo of your colMborafcctknl 
will (jive him further iiifoftuation. . >^0 

/ . . i W.E.A.A. 

Joynson Stmt, Straogotraya. 

'''j;nliTEE LAtiiES PLAvi.vb atIJau.*" (i*^ sl iv\> 
GIT: ^. 2.'*.) — Mu. C. AV. BABKLijr'a ve/so from. 

recifatioii ia the lii.-t mT t!i" co:nmon V(^oa pt 
"The Ciutd Brother," , ' ^^ 

Vix evidently confuiiudrf this ballad witli ih»t 
of "Binnoria" or "The Cruel Sielor." Ho baa 
quoted the Irish version of the liittor, as given ]by 
Ji*s Brooke ia her Rffi^u&s of Irish Po^fry, (i 

Bair« iftirf?/ BaltatiM, p. L'OO.)' 

I havo heard 

fir/*, p 

rst veft* of another tewion; 

of " The Thra« I mdica " in Forfat^Wi^ : — - 

•• TbCT* TWTc thwa si4(w«iihi>'^* pt tlic b.i', 
Wr a heeh hey an' a Hllle gay ; 
Then cam a knidit na' l<}okt owor tbr wa', 
Alt' ttie )>ri(aro«e sprint;^ mo i»wc«<Uy. 

.'^ing ^qoct. «n' Marjct,* ttu' fail -Moitrie^j 
An' th« dew hangs i'ihc wooil, gay IdcUc. 

NBOtO&WJC : » BttHE : ' ' " WjRlXd "■ (A"- B. ir,- 
40S) d'23.)-*l think '* bore " simply meanik to kQe]»t 
on p^natrnting^ aa if with a (gimlet — the aoaaat 
given to it in the dictioaariea : a painful procete,' 
whtitbdr oonsidcred physically or mr^ntnlly. In: 
tho slrocis one heard the uxpree^on **I*U wirai 
iato vou'*; sigoifyinfr either "I'll thra^ you/'i 
or "I'll taka you down.'* I suppose. " wiring,'*! 
tbusftppli^d, h an iotensiOed Jkmdiof '' bonnr/'^ 
00 if to piarcft with a red-hot wire. J. W. W. ♦ 

[Our readurs arc reCorrvil to a paper on ** Modem ^lantr, 
(^nt. an! Vukar \Vnr4'." in " N. ^ <»." "2^'^ S. viii.-l!*!,; 
iu V ..of tUeU^ 

Pii ' ii) made 0^ 

the .;..-. ■ ; — -»,. . ■ ... ^ \: , 

Harold y.KMtur ^'^ S. v,,32,)— The fwUow- 

iu/ i - mIMr. irvHOLnV aen'ice i'-^ 

I II %Yin be f^iund in thelli^raldft' 

v.- ' the Br- ' V mm, 

11' . lOOb. 

^ .guiLi^t^argfkruU 

^ AU JMy 



[4*S.V. Jam.«.70l 

A printed pedigree of the Earl of IlArold occurs 
fttp.l6C of JBlore's Sistary and AntiquUieB of 

And in toL it of Kobson^s Briiuh Herald I 
find the following entries : — 

Harold or Harrold [Ireland] : Argt a fesse 
between three mullets of nx points gu. CruL A 

Harold [Ireland]: Gu. a fesse between three 
etoilea argt 

Harold [Ireland] : Argt a feseo gu. between 
three mullets vert. 

Harold [Ireland] : Argt a fesse between three 
crescents gu. 

Harold or Ilarrould [Salop] : Vert a fesse flory 
counter flory or. 

Harold, Ilarouldy and Harrold: Same arms. 
Cresiy a hawk's lure ppr. 

Harold [Suffolk] : Gu. an escarbuncle between 
two etoiles or* 

Harold: Gu. a fesse argt between three 
etoiles or. 

Harold : Gu. an escarboncle or between three 
etoiles of the second. 

Harold : Gu. a cross moline ermine. 

Harold: Gu. three crosses moline ermine. 

Harold : Or two bars (another bends) gu. 

Fbanx Uese Fowxx. 

74, Warwick Gsrdens, ELenaington. 

I beg to refer your correspondent Mb. T. R. 
Habold for an ample authentic account of the 
Irish family of Harold to my History and Anti- 
quUiea of Limerick^ pp. 141-2. 

Macbice LEinHAK, M.R.I.A. 

Old French Woeds: "Bollh" (4»»' S. iv. 
96, 178, 341, 541 ; v. 24.}— As regards this word, 
which has lately been referred to more than once 
in vour columns, a reference to the arms of the 
old Lincolnshire family of Bolle (sometimes spelt 
BoUes) in Durke's Kttinci Baronetage will clearly 
illustrate and confirm Mb. Patke's rendering. 
The armorial bearings are — "Az. out of three 
cups, or, as many boars' heads, couped, argj." 
The family was originally of Swineshead, which 
probably accounts for the addition of the boars* 
heads to the holies, bowls or cups, in the shield. 
Can any correspondent obligingly quote the date 
of the grant of the arms, and state if there is any 
record of the family, in common with their name, 
being of French or Xorman origin ? It may not 
bo uninteresting^ to mention that of the senior 
branch of this liouso cnme Sir John BoUe, Knt, 
of Haugh, CO. Lincoln, who distinguished himself 
at the fiegc of Cudh in 1-500, and was by tradi- 
tion the hero of the ballad written about that 
period, prcHorved in Dr. Percy's Hclictt of Ancient 
Englifh Portry, entitled "The Spanish Lady's 
Love for an liinglishman." W. E. B. 


(4*^ S. T. la)— Li thia article Goethe ia zecacdcd 
to have said : — 

** The ode oa the death of Gcnenl Mooie is one of flu 
most beaatiful poema of Byron. Shellev most han ben 
a narrow-minded fellow not to feel thi&'HonoTer. Bmi 
Bcema to me to have bees &r too kind to Sbdler." 

Having lately had to read up eyeiTthing abiMt 
Shelley, and not having observed (or at aay i^ 
not recollecting) anything about this albir, I at 
curious to learn on what Goethe's stfttenMBt m 
based. Had he any and what ground for in^jw 
ing that Shelley supposed the ode in qoeatian to 
be by Byron, and to be below hia markr We all 
know now that the ode waa not by Byron; ^ 
few,I presume, would affirm that any added diatii»> 
tion would accrue to him had he been the aatheiL 
At any rate, it is suffidently grotesque to fiadw ' 
great a man as Goethe running down so great t ' 
man as Shelley for not admirinfir as Byna'l a 
minor poem which was not Byron's. 


56, Euton Square, X.W. 

*Tht wish was fatebb, Habbt, to im 
THOPSHT'' {4?^ S. iv. 435.)— Sir William Hand- 
ton, in A Letter to Avgiuiua De MargoM, AjjL 
(London and Edinburgh, 1847), cites, asoMif 
the mottoes printed on the Mck of the titk- 
page — 

** The wish is father to the thooght. — Bkit JomoiB." 
Adding five others, viz. two in Greek, and two it 
Latin, with ten lines from Prior ; but ncoe d 
tiiem are included in Br. Ravage's amir of abh 
tions. I own I have not as yet found the luiflh 
Jonson, although I have seigxhed a good deal fir 
it. Here one does feel the want of a Coivte 
Clarke for "Rare Ben." T. & 

Crieff, N.B. 

The River Dart (4**' S. iv. 407.)— The pnMt 
name of this river is a corruption of its ham 
name, Darwent (in Saxon Dterenta, Ihria\ ai 
is deri^d, like that of the Berwent, from Bkitii 
Dwr-gwent, "the fair, bright, or dear wate' 
Conf. the inverse name in Owen Dvo*, a riTsr, «l 
Brecknock, Winder (in Windermere), and penifi 
Wendover (found Wendour', Wandoure, W» * 
dovre) in Bucks (Welsh Apt, dtofr, water). 

R. S. CHAJoroGK. 

Gray'a Inn. 

America akb the Biblr (4"" S. v. SI.)— Tb 
statement that Columbus found proof of the erirt- 
ence of a new world in any passage in the l^dntf 
or Prophets is not ^uite correct. It is piohab^ 
founded upon a misapprehen^on of the weU' 
known fact that Justiniani, the editor of a Fsrf- 
terium in Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, Chaldee, vaA 
Latin, printed at Genoa byPorro in 151G, inserted 
as a note to the psalm CwH enarrant, a history of 
the life and discoveries of Columbus, which b0 


4* & T. 3 AS. 33. TV). 



njB attm% not out of place, u the great eailor 
tiioaght KimMlf tlie predeatined ageut of the ful- 
flmwt of tho proph^j, 

MoLnn urn Grxki. 
XT, Kiog WniUm dtreet, SUmsd. 

Bsei'B New TBexAHEirT (!»*• S. v. 28.)— If tlie 
tofoanation be of any umb to S. A., I beg U> in- 
Cdrai him thAt I have a Noptnti Tvsiuvietitum of 
BeiA\ with Bot^s, but without the Greek text, 
hftwe^D tlie dates he gives. It bears date 1574, 
|.^.^:„; '-rnter, Thrtma<i VflHtrol!enui. This 
«i! ceded by a dedication to the Earl of 

I? I*ord Hastings, ending with : " Turn 

A TiddiotUi^irau* P. Ijopelenua Villeriua." 

Ti.- - - .X wed by tho previous original dedica- 
tion to the Prince CoDd6, dated 1565. 

John^-^'ii. in hia Typoprophia^ givoa a list of 
t woika printed bv this Warned 
iitf ciaft, auioug which are — Savoua* 
toWtt ChridioH Meditation* in French, A Treatise 
Ml M^lmeMie (by whom P*), and the works of 
Jordaiitts Brnnua proceeded from his French 
pTfiMi and caused his tlight from his native country. 

J. A. 0. 

ST' ^4"* S. \y. 50o.) — I give a parallel to 

tb' . ie cuatoni from Mayence Cathedral, 

where nue of the boys of the Cathedral eohool 
(till the timea of the French Kevolution) was 


exercised his reign till the (xrtava SS. Inno- 
ttatimn fJau. 4). The learned Franc. Ant. Dtirr, 
JX.^ wH't*-' upon that subject hh'*Commentatio 
kidoricti '/<• Episci^o PiicT0nim, vulgo Schttl-Hi*- 
Aif, (}u& historia litteraria universie rei litur- 
Som^ Tuifeque antiquitates ec<;lefflastic<'e illus- 
Mbir. Moguntiic, 1755/' in " TheAaunu iurt'a 
teekAiiiei poUsnmton orrmam'cij etc. An lonii 
Sdkmidt, torn, iii.f Ileidelbergm, Bamberg^ et 
Wiiwbuxg*, 1774, i", p. 53-83."^ lie describes 
iW eostoxn as following : (cap. ill. De Epivcopo 
ft«*>^nn. 5 XTI. p. (J7): — 

. ne as babet : dtmoininatur hie Mo^itntia> 

Nicohu a LndimagiHro ScholjD Triviali* 

octrfiirtiiiL rx porris acholaribu^ ■ Kpwcnpu^ riicnirum,' 

nl Mottnr Testimeatifl episcopaUlMLs initra iwdrK|uu in- 

Kivtiit : iiuui aatem Epl$copum suus Oocec comitatue 

'tcus, quam profannfti «io ipsi aMtt^innttir 

-foileM plure», capellani duo ouin tutidvin 

pjcitu. t-.ni4cepaa htc cum f^uo L-mnitatu in priinb et 

■ " S. Niwlw 

^-^__- TMperis ei lub lunimA ^ntrii victu* 

MIffitAia fonipaxel In ctuita iniiiiKi t>ccl(.-iLv niotrop., ubi 
1|^ MU roilU nt !«ri](T« si <l<-iint iiiilum, pruut vulgo 
•ut tT;;iiiitiu.4 . j'/iitde autcm unjqc ad 

P«aa> tHum* frrti SK. [rithior-uium nou amphuit con- 
^feito fea ft^rlt^* : durante nutcm hoc tempore inter- 

ii'iuii and divine of some 
. Yorkafainiy died Itilo. — 

medio pemfHt nias vinitntinnM p<?^n« Eleetorera, a quo 
Admittitur nd audientiam : TD. C'nnonk'o^ mctmpoliUn« 
EcclcftiiB ac reliqaam nobiliLaietn Obuniulis epiKopuia 

fiuororum comituntibm tnm in nuIaL'Iecturali quozn aUia 
n ledibus dwanUulibus liymnum : 
** Jam tuam fcstum, Nicola<! Divei^ 
Mori Boleinni rocDJit jnvpiitus 
Noc tibi dignap, sacenldtum Caaar, 
Promera laudea. 

*'Ta pner qaantam pnerii dediatl 

Nobile excmploni pjciatti, atqnc 
Intef^rn viLa\ tibi nil placebit 
Pni'ter lionestum. 

** Ergo te recte, Hoboles rirewena 

£d c(£tum oonslat columen tuonim 

Te sacerdututn pnriter senatua 
Jure cclcbraL 
**EfrectQ9 visitationig [St, ut cpiscnpoi cnm sno eomi- 
tatu invitetur ad eonvivium, vcl donatn luiltem pnuentt 
detur Ludimagistro rel prwceptori, qui ex hi»ce donia 
eoUectis varias solvit expennos occanione hujus CBre- 
monic eoatas. Primas vospcnu festi S. Itinoccntam 
cflebrat Kpi»copu9 hie nu^itlus in cboro roinori sen aia 
aicto ferreo vol parochial! EcclesiK mctropoliL; Cborua 
cum organo caatat Psalmofl, Episc-opus pocromm cantat 
Orationcm, Kfspouiiorifl, a<" dnt Bcnedictioneni popnlo, 
Capellani5 interim aua otBcia io depunenda mttra debtto 
tempore baud negligentibns : in i|>60 SS. Innocentnm 
festo inti-rc6t Kpiscopus buo cum comitatn summo sacro, 
celebrat vesperas Ricnii die pnecedenti : et eadem in 
Oetava pra>(licti featl observantur ; enumeratis hisce 
dicboft, ubi functiooes sacraji pencil Epiacopus pnoronun* 
in nnlta ciritatis Ecclcaia cclebratur a clcro Chonu,** 

Frbderick ScirwEn>rai, 
Prsebend. custos Cathed. 
Maloz, Rhine. 


(4'" S. iv. 501; v. 61.)— As an Oxford under- 
graduate, I picked lip a secondhHnd copy of a 
seTenteentli-century translation of the JBook of 
Proverbs into liAtin verse. I forget the name of 
the author, and tho placet, as well as the date of 
publication. The book wna lent to a friend, and 
sold with his library. I should be glad to get 
another copy. 

In this translation the following appeared, as 
part of the rendering of ivi. .13 : — 

" Fortior eat qui so, qu&m qui furtuttma vincit 
Outra " [not •• oppida *']. 

John lIoacTys-AaAAiiALL. 
Combe Vicarage, near Woodstock. 

WoMKN IX £ffQLA.3io(4**' S, IT. 105.)— Heylin 
has helped himself to thia discourse in his Micro- 
coamofj lt527, p. 100. E. H. Knowlsb. 

l:niOT2iOJ (4"' S. iv. 215.) — I^t me refer 
Ma. E. Tew to the Shorter Catechism of tha 
Basaian Church, s very ablo one (filackmore, 
Aberdeen, 184*5) :— 

*• Wo ask God, of His good providence, to ^jive us 
what is neceaunr for us to »ub»ia4, m footl, flntltcjy Irnl^ 
ing; and we ask thit for Ut-^lny uuly, wiUii>ut fiuther 

irOTBS ANTD QiyfiKlE'g. 


oAiv for the futnra, bwntve mdi car* wouM b« tncon- 
toiAeot wlUi ifust in Uod.'* 

Thiii IS tindy nmplifird in the linger Cflte- 
cMftm. K H. ICxowLRs, 

Hartst's "TouRWTf's-QnTJB Timou-un Cons- 
WAtL, 1801 " (.|^ S.t.82;}— Tlie AiU ooUoaoa of 
th<3 above wltIc ia— t .. 

" Tlic Toarwt'a OaM* Oirau^h Crtniwnll, by Bonfi, ^y 
Uiver, uttl by Rjiil. llIu^trtM vrilli oritclna) Etchiu^'i 
(Vom iSkctclin uksn ua Oie jipot. Uy TliooiAS iJin;r*l<^n 
Bjuvty. Truro: J. It, XdWrton, ItWi, l2ino, ni*. Hti, 
If. U^ 

-Mr. JIarvev is A yoottg^ son of th» late Her. 
W. Woodin llorvcT, Hector of St. .Mary's, Ti-nroi 
atfd Itis elder brother, Trho formerly hold the efttnu 
benefice, i? now vicur of Mullioii. Mr. Hurvey 
pcoctised for sumo time at Truro as a Bolicitm-, 
ua( a few ^eftTA o^ ho went to Confitautinople, 
and is now id f^od pmctice there. Whon liohavt 
Pas'hfi went on hid recent expedition against 
Grbto, he eelectpd Mr. Harvey as hia legal ad- 
TjsQf.on nuUfere of inUuruationiu law ; aud for his 
HOrviuQd un that occaaioa bo w&8 rewarded with 
thi6 third order of the Metidji. Mr. IlnrTey hn« 
written other works, of which T would g^ladly, 
glVd E. U. NV. D. full pftiticularB, should he de- 
sire it " W^P, Oottbiwev. 

4,^o»UiVUo^\y^ .,.,11 ..r.^', ,„ 

John Aif8Ki,L (4** S, v, 31,)— I liave a copy of 
the second <diU<kn of John' AngoH'a Treatise on 
Stettoyraphij in my lihrnrv- There is no date, bat 
I. infer thflt it was published nfter 17S3 for tbo 
fonowing reasons. 

X\\Q name of Juhu .iVngel appears in \Vatdoa*8 
Ihibliti Ahntmac of the year 1781 for the fir«t 
time. 11)6 residence is Plated to be 7, Fownes 
Stjwt. In the same editor's AlinaniYc for 17^3 
the surname ia first cbang-.d to Ange//, and the 
Apelling continues tlm aamo, rmd the rfference to 
residenoe the Haue, antil tha Abtiannc of 1830, 
when it dUnppcara altogether from the Hat of 
•^Mfj-ehnntsnndtrftdere. The s-econd edition of 
hia TWo^rV mi SUmograjiliy has llttj nanio spoiled 
AngeZ/i Bo thnt it is probable ho changt'd the 
BpelUog of hi« name in 1783. and died in lrti?8. 

I give the title-pagt? of his SfeHnrfiuphtj in full 
below ; but he also published a liUfory of Ir^ 
lnu4l, Dublin, I7h1, 2 vols. Hto, which vour ^tue- 
rist hftf> not mentioned. The pr^fmcf^ to liis fifnio- 
gvaphtf oontftinfl some corioris and weU-djg't«lod 
matter re'^p'-nting the history of ibo art from llie 
earlieet time«:-«- . . 

"Stenof^rnphy ; or Short-liind imprnvod, hcln;? tlm 
most coTrrwnUiou^ lincnl, .md «<y nn'lhoil bhlierto 
exuut. J l.c fVr^'Mis Mnr.i!tf,Tpn^('s,'nn<l Particles which 
raoBt (nt)' 1 to join Willi raw flmi 

accunojp ■• on? Inid down with 

fiuch Ffo;.i. V' ' ■■■■' P»rppk^uUy thai (be 

I'rantitfoiicr uill D«t>d no oihpr nji^Lstiinep. 'rbe wbot« 
)Ilu!ttra(eit with aa Alphn^wCical I'raxK adnptetl to alT 

marponi'^ in inuteral, hull ibotia frdrllMtbt-lr 
leanicl !"* ' ' -- -i - ' '■' ' ' 


in - 

BI;i: I'';, iitiii t» , .»]i"iij, til n, 

Cli I hi Stttionw's Hall Boo*. 

Tliis title-page kaa been )irinteti from ati 
^ved plate bearing the sistintur--* ■' Th'-= ^- '•»-^ — 
Sculpator (c/c), Iloiborn Ilill." 

QtTii^ T>on7o Pexance (4* S. i 
only queen upon whom Father Tct. 
intUirtvfl vould have been Marj -jf, 

dena. 1 ! , y recommended sc-lX-dii 

to her huiOaiia: — \ 

•• Fathrr PiMtc. nn Y\t ItrtdM 1{nr*^,>fwTi(1ffl 
remonHtmnp^s ('■ T' , "" - . 

tini« sinnini^ tiw 

pennnces were i^-j ;-.... .:-., j. 1 ., . 

iicrlif^, atid nt hor Ucatti t^eqacntbed to theOoix 
ChaUlut, the scuqrRC witb wTiJrb b'f lii»>! y\^r 
nvciigfd b«r wronK* upon Ir 
lay's lliatory, cb. vl. 



7%* Xiftii^ and ihe Cifr of trtwcU £*xcfin» mclmdim q| 

ht'^ i\—' I u'-'. - -/. I .t»^^. 


.r/n. " . .;.,..,. 

pJiUiil, I,i(cr:irif, and I'l';; 
tctttd itnii §ct Jbrth ih ( 

SpcclUiu^. To/, y, (Lnngiiiaos.) 

We oonj^rHlalatfl n<»t «nly Mr. Sptddini;. but oil »lj»in 
are iiil«r«tt(etl in tliv i-buquerMl ator>' nf Uutn^ 
ll)6 appi>«raacfl ol* Lltin Ufib volume of the aatti 
Frttc '. - ' i: ' - ' : : :;.hy ot" llw Rr\'at cl;am 
Ak v: I'lij ended wilb the ttrit 

ufii'< {'tiip, so does I bit carrvfj 

abn(»t, imt. v^i •^uJiUt tu Ibo end uf the period 
ninch bft held Uidt uffici?. &lany aiul imporbltA 
ttib matters net only wilb rrf - -- -- -- '^-- 

bUo with xvSqicvu.'H to theii \. m 

vbich, daring iJiia eventful «• 

ndviwr, mjiiugf-r, pr ai ' 
to Lflke a p at ; a4ul cf 

■luiivUp;ii uidTUT> ul ill.,- iubjc<:t cnaLltT hi to invt'iit the vylumewiib exinn*nita»Ty 

A Prttcllctil Cotnmetitanf vpon the t'int Kpixtle t>f St 

Pftfr^ b^ Rob«t L./.'-t.t.... Mirna.r ..I X.-.. t„>i il- ki 

Midlolbinit* uttenv.n. 
Jhr Mr Jirut time - ■ 

iUutitraiiv^ Xotfn ufnt /..'/n*,', '-y ^^ illmin \^ 
Incnmt'cnt of St. r<ditmba\ Nairn. In r 

Mr. \V(^t conliniipj bin great ! 
furtliurancv of bis proiMwol ()> pat f>'i 








rt ■ ■ 


an ' 





'in4>. Iiii4 a<>w vMted 
niliiijrtjit " Cqm- 

In- *nmf i 

Ai il tKeauibui'n 
MJ htil Imnntcd 

. and 
' «■« .ii( fuJjijentat of 

UXf caonut but \m rt\- 

'cnsthip Ki' 

Bv KrcJericte (Vftcnf CjinNi'l'. 

. has Uiju 

(ViVrrf. Ity the Rev. W. Lucas CoUio*, M.A., 
ttimin^ ^. ^BUckwood.) 

fi"t of * JWif|flCttrtft'>>"n;'«>'> Y ^."**' 
»v »r,..i,.r*^(t «¥?(•*" UiifTrti-iIin titiooi'* Ancient 

'i Ui^s proposed 1*1 

it writer* ."fOrc^we 

..;,cn ('-> 111.". ■■ ■ W 

— (jf in wIio-< 

-I- — Ji f,'\>r ,i.' 

! llit'ir 

Aikd lilila. »l» modem -writcrt vii kll T-ai-jt'ct^ »-Minie 
•cihe iMftcii ih'ir TMrtrr*. mokfl poeh an n/^iiialntAii'* 
AlOOMJieccM' lvf'>>'*"'id but 

• > HiAt 

to (hv dl«s»cmin:ifM>n wf tKM'al 

, With Jlhistntt'rc QitnUt- 
'•rthfl'u lyn'trifi, (>y .h V. 
\\\ intr.rf'.Hlin;: rnhiril>ii- 

■ .. -^^ 1.1 V -i:- lir 

.( the Ucuiii{( vf «AA- 


**5^y'f ^jj^rV-V'- 

rit biiuk, and 
'. K 10 I'O A want, in- 

./ly/fC, «df<W Ay J. (i. XivlioK 
^McUoS^i aflanl« frf»h prw'f of 

LUe«UUlJ<ind iiHl«(«Ddeitrc>ritfi avM..1i die <di^.r brmj^ 
liin gztAt knowI<Nlj;rc of gni ub- 

jocU l« b^ttr u^n all ib-fi <|«i. i Iii* 

notli**? — nunlUieswbloh givct^nnt tn t\ [H;rio;m:iiiof 
tliia pcCTuinr nature. 

ri<*l ' ir<>nk, ifani :. thft 

no -t. ; : brn-ITv «n l -.iliai. 

>*..■ d'ultt ii"i Mi. I'll Iwfutd, with his Tnvc uf outi^uUI^i 
Aud Aae KMicrj. found k reiy vtcudDl boHdn^^. I 

A ■ ■■ ■ ■ : ■ rir^J 

fnni' i' f»r 

a ii^i, - ..-. , ■...:.. |.:..i,. . ....; ,. .. a*..ifty 

welcome (III thii side ot the Atlantic: — 

" \{\ lli'j fli^I.tti vr^lntne rtf » V. A Q." (1853) themire 

■ lion'in s <l«^ « ex"- 

1 U* ^IxnkcspoAra tint 

-I- .11 Uic \«u':(i<;-.i ui Llio text, Aad a dJgdst 

"I :nMniailit)n» ttll^^t^my hotic«for the first 

tinu*. u>'i knt; ^iiire, vrliUe rtif^agcd in the picamnt tank 
(if T^'inii^ing tbc voIuiuca oC ** N. 4c Q." for the very cnil 

dt-sirwl <f-n V •■ — ■' - • J 

! irptiei'BTiMii ■ I urn of Sh.'tkosponre. 1_ 

think thill all i.f iH,-uro !itud-*iits have fblt llie" 
n(!Qi of flii ndUkin vlili-b >houM wt fv\rlh th« Inhcnirv, 
UttrU Ui Wx\ ilDil ix<iniiK'ft£ary, cf our loaniud madera e<U- ' 
toFA nith ti)C qaniP vatiffm-tory (Jeameftn and pr«£iH&U' 
tUdt tlie,t''XtiMl vnrjirUcs of tiic '^l. aiwi lY. *ro i,'»«ivM» 
thitinVklttftblc otTjtwtt (if Olft CaiuljHd«« editors, Me«r». ' 

"Such II Voriurum (pn« Kcr. Bfr. AfWlrgniftTi, fttun 
wln>«e >Icd^ hnrnmor it. nwy (V^pcft some reftoiindiog 
bbww), C havo no« attempted, and :icnd row ttie mmntiticF-, 
meot ftMh4 pubHshcns Meunii. r.ip[ilDMtt h Co. of tli!*^- 

«i^J>J .„■ . .-■;";■■ 

"I Ij^iifo foHoweil thi poxi. of n-^ r ,...i.ri.!.nw.v|itoi?, [. 
and a^nmc that Ibeir (extunl n ' '-'^*',\^ 

rvct ; and to the Utter 1 have ad ' ^ th* 

inoiltrnV^^trtm (ni(»(imi»g by t Hit l-'riii ihfl c<litors sinCfl, 
l«l), alwut tvfriiti- ill number. 

•• A- t.i itj,. ..inui.. tiii.rv, I have taken tiio Var. of '21 1 J' 
ns I knd have talcsa frvto H tudm 

til . - ?iii«f ihntdrttf* have adopted.. 

TI... ■ ' . .il n.itM oft', i;f.)r?i. 

ik** ji Vftlnn !■■ m can V 

r-iiiL...-. ... -. -.^i L!..i siro pf t" ' i^'*! •dllio!?, 

whipb'in Miieand tvfo^raplty it vtHi dutxiy ttmvaXAfu 

*• The tir»l Nvhuiic n ill rnnt«in ltnmr<y andJiJitH}ktiM*^ 
cludint; in tli--' 1' ■ "' ' ! ' '. ' V fill^ and Mot«m- 

svnl ; uhd I ti. :h'4nre overthn^;' 

tbo l>w.4( will rir ; i- ipproval. 

•* PTiiMeliJ(U, Dec, 31, I8d0.* 

MnM()>. IX I.O!(i»o?c.— We learn frftm TAe 
Ttnildrr tJirtl tb« Biwictr I'f Art.-i linA** rrcently can»r4' 

tnlilt-'l.'i to bu fixed on the hoa'--' f" ■■ ' ' — "' '■" ' 

KrMiikliii, 7, CiavcuStrt'Cl, Stf.iii i 

nnldSjIT, l.,cio^*tiT Siinorp ; nnd i 

«ary (MirrT>K''i"»n to alfix Mmilflr iin-riuoiial--. t j ilm luiiin.1' 

p'.-idi'nciy of I-ord NoNon. lohn, Ilstidel, Dtr- 

den, (J-dd-mith, and Sir \V. Ularkstinc. 

WoTJiiNSiikJi 8cu<x>u — Tlio year bcfora ImI the 

.1 ^1,, !i ■ ;„ vv.>-T.iii<.-r. r ^.-h,,,.) wHs rciHoved, ond the 
I, ' ditttiWnionA. A Himplvv 

t;ii : ^)ie ftdWiwin^ inMrripiton^l 

^I ' I v\ .j-untusii.-r^ ftm indcbteit tor thb tir>'ak'l 

iii^, t«liich rradcn Iho oil fooin odo of Ihil 

Hut... .. ...^ ...lid: — 

xoTES a:n'D queries 



UICE:<l>in OI.1M AII?CMrrAM 

DB btIO n£FlClliJ11>AM C'URAVIT 

A. r. STA5LEY. S.T.r. PECAHrflb 


AitMOBiAL BsAniNos. — Tha new icale of duties on 
annorial bw»if*g« now comes into operation— one guinea 
in ordinnrr cawAi two guiouA4 if borne upon a oarria)iCC* 
Tba dutf oMbceo I3*.2^. hit>rdiiiArjcB«e3,aod2f. 12<. \>d. 
if tlic laxpnyer kept a tiTo-hor« four-wheeled c-imaKe. 
The number of perswiw in fircat Britain paying duty for 
Qiing armorial bearinga increaw* constantly. Twelve 
vein a^o the tax did oot produce 54,t)00/. ; in the lost 
inaocial year it produced nearly 69,000/. The relnrn 
for thnt year statM the numl)cr of persona taxcl to be 
594!KJ — vijt. 15,712 at the Uigher duty, and 43,478 at the 
lower duty; four yvars previously only 14,701 were ss- 
wased for'the higher rate, and 30,333 for the lower rate. 
The tax vt confined to (ir«at Britain : Uio Iriab may 
bear arms witUout payitit; duty. 

General Keadcrs ean scarcely form an idea of the num- 
ber of 'i'rade MagazineA now in circulation. Tlipro is an 
amusinjr article upon Ihora iu tUt Birntingham Daily 
Poit ••{ Saturday 1a«i, in which the writer points out the 
characterifilic5 of "The Stationer," rerry's "Illustrated 
Price Cnrwnt," "The Trinter's llegi«te'r," "The Iron- 
raont^^T," "The Iroomon(;er'* Journal," "The Grocer," 
"Thet_:hemist," *• The Tailor," "The Whip," and "Si. 
Cri-<pin " -, and addn, " Many other miuor and local 
■Is are devoted to merely trade purposes and their 

mbera, and very oftcu tboir literary merits, their dia- 
coamons of trade topic*, and their "correspondence** on 
public mattera are among the most carioos and signifi- 
cast of the social phenomena of the time. 

Anew edition ofWartou'a admirable l/utor^ n^A'njr- 
/iiA Pitetru, based on that edited by that profound aohoUr 
Rlchanl Price in 1821. collated with that ^uperiulended 
by the late Richard Taylor in 1840, is announced for 
publication in Nov. next, by Mr. \V. Carew ^a2litt 

Important as b.iA bneii the inHucnce of iiuildn upon 
the social and municipal iDstitutiooa of England, their 
history, it would seem, U defltioed to be written by foreign 
Bcbolari. WUda published in 18II1 a book u|)on the sub- 

{"ect, Urher dtt* GiftUwcten tits MmtJiJUr$^ and now we 
earn that the late lamented Mr.Toulmin Smitii> Knylith 
Guilds is to be accompenied by a review of the whnlo hi^t- 
tory and development oftruilda from the pen of a leameil 
German Kholar, Dr. \*. flrentaue. 

Wnri-TiNGTOx'}* BossKS. — Mr. Orridge has written to 
the City PrcM^ pointing out how great were the benefit:^ 
which ihe renowned Whittington conferred upon hi^ 
fe)l<iw-citii:ens byfumishing them with no lew thnu thrw 
^os^c*, or fountaini of .ipring water — one at Bos»e Allov, 
Billiug^catcone at St. Gile«>. Cripplognte, nnd one in 
Trij:j,'e Lane, Queenhithe. Tliey are aeverally dft«crib<*d 
bv Stow In his Surrey nj LoutioiL, pp. 71*, 112, 13o (ed. 

Mr. Edward Frand*, of the** Athensuro Prcfia," having 
eecnrcd the invention from Mr. Griggs, has introduced 
an entirely new inoilitHl of produring ropies of prints and 
picture* to the pulilishing world. The com lii nation of 
photography with liihogni|ihy wan first attained and 
patented by Sir lieury Jamea, of the Topographical Ue- 
parlmont; hut the prrjcf! of Mr. Griggs claims to Iw a 
«on»id''rah!(* advance on the nriginai iuvcntion. Judging 
fcvm the «pecimen we hnve "v^^ry, there can be little ques- 
tion of Mr. Griggs's 8UCCC9S ; and if it be true that book . 
pictures, prints, Arc, ran be reproduced by it, at nii> 
hmrtli the time the mmc work can bo done nt present, 
tbire can be no doubt of the value .ind importance of Ibe 
new ]iruccss. 



IPutlealKT* cif PrW, Ac, of Um folk>«liic Booln tn fa* ami i 
thtceiilJt . itu:r arc raqulni, wbua* n 

•.r« fi«ii t — 

L.BmR-> ' '. vi.roi.B- Vi'l*. IT— VrH. Inelarft*. 

Icf. T«^'. 

Oudn.txmdon, Vr.C. ^^ 

t^) '. 4 Vol*. 

y^ ■««. 

Ht 1, ii V.,l«, 

It • 



Ilk^- . . .. 

W»Ud far JUr. 7«(nMu tieel. Otmkmtlltt. Ui. CoudM 
BoQtl SiraM. Ijatnivu, W. 

The ftitlowioc Oooki hy Friend*i — 
BouK OBoaavATioHi uros A SaBKoir or Ma. A«n,aT^ Irr 

To AU. raBftavT RtiXBaa or V.nct.Kyn, hv Qmei 

TmiMa AOTiTB or A SOBSB Vorrn.lrr PaulCpMu tn. IFM. 
A QlJAKSM'* SBA-JouumaU. hf R^Vrt Trmkr llu UM. 
AiiBiiooeaAaiiiixT TO ksuc tnt I«iiKt>.iii tn .vooamt af TImw. 

ThomiiMRi. Aro. ("cm. 
To Fwirxri* nr Tm-rtt it 1 nvnnt, h\ *;t-..r ir,i.:hn%, Ma. MB. 

Jo ■■ ■ ...— ._, ,-- -,_^ 


^'' . «ra. MM. 


' . I AD. in«. 

I WMIMX'j^ or Jnttt M'llM I 1)1' Al' -Vi.'. tm/.X 

WRRtwl hr Mr, ir. C. /iMtfr^r, i, Duk Tl4>w, U nit. 

fij\iitti ia CotTcdjionlirnM. 

r*sHoHa litovld b« ottdrtivwl to tAa KJttoTt SvmtS fi if mil M< 

■pti-: T-rvr- f TV its. la irluA ff nM* 

-Uii (MXf Ktrt. 

rAMii.y uoaaiaa, 

ut at AMtrui 

I Hb Qmrrut* tfiif x Aer« iKt antmen aMV 
naxrrniTork). TA* UutM ar^ b^ n'^liA»tC>M-mJSrt»>H.m 
Irvimf. 4vo. i*£ll, p. S9. 

J. C n (£<Unbanh.> 

''It I'KtJfHll, M t' 

Gr.oana RT7nTo<t i~Uaii.i,. .. . u n p/^.tiU 
Jntit't jurlAim^ or* t^f tju**m*i iWm. S^ " Cl" 1M 
>. 2^1. ««i Yiul 8-U(.fti. 

r. F' ?.. A lift, vitk rA< «i*r, o^'Q**^'* .^N*c'*ifAr mvi 
rrtitr^f iN Uk Ocatlcmu'f HigiulM /^ J>,lv, 1744. p. nm^ 

RltntTA.— Jn/>. jw 7t. ral.l. line S4, 'Jb- " rtwrrrl " rm 

p. r?. ■■ <t ii. I'ni 7. h-r " lay artlf'," v.i.t" I..,>«!;>t *' 

mil P«mt Office, in Mraur of Wili.iah' 

:f:iit, firaAxa. w,c.„ whan kl»> ail 
I'lToa «houlii be id^RaMd. 

I>a, Lnoocx'B WAmru poa CocHina. colda. a»d TIq* 

Iiublk aiNiKVirni Uu:) urv UantlUAUa foe clru-inc 
itrfce. AMI have ■ puMml Uite. Ttlw I*. U</. 


Moi.rsns l*ivr?tTio!nL—TliAt aiMt lutTuUoii iii» "C** 

(,!(!. r..ii 1 ■■ c -.,.,,. j,.._,. , ._ _. 

k'M ' 

?«OTM a Qnana" ItncutAnO (bt uiMmiMtoB 

4"&.V. jAa.M,TO.J 



LOSIfCJf. 6ATtTtU>A7, JAXVART ». 1B70. 

C0NTKNT3.— X- 109. 

JW/TBSs — Cot«'nip<irnr>' Piirtniit of Mnry Qut^n uf Scots 
»r.. in — yt»\\iT Hip »» .Mis-ml. Hi— "Ixivt^ly 
Polly •<t.M.^.r- li-i -'!«■. .,w.. t^. ..V... — 'i*orrinK oiid 

r^Mh- ■ " i.iv.s of 

Wit* 1 Sulonioti — 

T%% ou^,^. ■-..». :,,*.. ..c- — 1 .-,,v-., .-■,. - Bell Lilcrm- 

QITE&ISS: - Anrlimt Cow Conceit— niirns*i "OallKiit 
W«tT« • h Poetry — CmquQ I'orts Domeodny 

Bool — CuppUTpM t — Fort'itn Frfiniii»"i » 

— '"l: [,w"_ E%rlv rirrT'Tirii to Ih.i 0"S- 

;. : . 1 . .^^K.iliiljt. 

lis — N»p'> 

• '.iiQismatic — 

■ ii..Mii- r^'ii Tii.l ['ili L)cawi[i(< — Fin 

» wttiitt-U - R-'d L'o<f Milk— ttolf tho 

■ t-amily — Srven hoiii— StrtD!:r»; men- 

Uuutd b> t fuU'jL — OcofKivi SieriKt.Uv9. 117. 

WITS AVBWEUt : — Cros^bow - Lomii Philippe — 

!»*-•—' ■' "■ stcr: ktv. Juhu Wheler, KL.D. 

.<s wanted. i:ri, 

M Frnrilv, l?l - J. 5yrrBrlitow, 


:>ar ArtnK — 

I. ]'Og«IIB — 

■■ Dri-iini (if 

I lo Ancient 

Vorkn)>iro — 

— Tim Sun: il« 

■ <l — Tbo gaitirrtal. 

. ■■;.». 


■was funnerly a fine portrait of Mary 
Queeo of 8colj}, iu the po&*>cf«ioD of tbo fmuily uf 
r.r»Vit,f vkliN-li I.v !t f'-nntlo <1. .-,•.. ut iuhtirited ihu 

.r. This invalu- 

, _ tliut coD»iimcd 

>; on Auj^iul -6, IdOO, and besides 

jeweU of llie Udiea, deslrovtd llie 

Umiq and ewer pre^ent^d by Qupco Kliziib*'tb 

ftronjrb h^r ^mbn^tsador to John Kiifl of Mar, 

Mvd as legitiniAte Lfir of 

.. the grace of Queen Mary 

>. UutLlia, iu her own ri^ht Countc^d 

wife of ft boiftard eon of tLe Wulf of 

1 bo in tbif way^ by tbo courtesy of 

'.awe Enrl of Uarj* iind burrived bis 

iuy years, 

domiM of tbe Robber Earl^ tbe 
I ettatea were seized by tbe cro%Ti, 
•ful htiTB wew* excluded from tbeir 
■' f'^-'"'v of Jftnie3 1. .ind bis four 
t«». \pril l.*i; the cUinia of the 

*li »'■'■'- i, .titer full iuTcsttgation^ by 

Queen Marjr and hep parliament, and the earldom 
of Mar agum appeared in the roll uf Scutisb peers. 
The low of a portrait, probably tbe w^ft of hia 
royal mistress to the Earl, who died Kctjent of 
Scotland, is deoply to be PHjrrettud, as in the mul- 
tiplicity of Miiriim portTftits the existence of an 
undoubted cotemporirj' one would have been of 
the doepest imjiortnnce. 

Tho following account of tbe fire is given in a 
newapapeT of tho period *: — 

*• We nre sorry to licmr that liotwixt 11 and 12 o'olodc 
of the nighc ufl'liurMUvlBHt (25lh AQftu^tMrnU), A most 
ilrcadful lire broke out in tbo hoa^ of AUno, tlie »eat, of 
Mr. Kr»liine of Mar. The fir», wlii( h Ui-gio in ttiu out 
apartrnfftits of the hou>K', hnd mnHe coiMidonble prnprtss 
Wftiro it waa discovered, and when it iriis, the rapiility of 
the flames was nich that the Itidii-a of the family with 
ditficulCy etcaped in ttioir nt^htf^fiwnti without b^inj^ 
able lo (lave a »iii(;U article of dress. Tho alarm was 
immediately ^vt-n, ibo Are bell wnjt run^^ and the drum 
beat, in cooBequence of which att immcn-to concourse of 
propte aaAeinhied, and th« rohititn-r^ iiixitT the cotnmand 
ttt Captainc Vi-rtue inimediAtt'ly rppHin-d to the ppol, to 
keep oflf the crowd an<l pn>ti'ct what of the furnitui'O 
might be saved. Unfortunately nn t^n^inf Ci>u)cl be prcH- 
cured till some honrm after tbe fire had broke out, and It 
woR a cunnidemble time biforc any supply of water couM 
be had, the rivulets ne^r iho hou-^ being almost dry 
fmm the rcaenrotr tieing shnut a mile above the town, 
and having been shut ta eollevt water for the mills, la 
»uch circumsianccfl it wan totally impracticable to put a 
stop to the bnming, though evrry exertion was tnodo bj 
the people asMmbled, who Inlxiureti bard, many of them 
at thf risk of their lirn, fbr npwarJn of Mven nonra wHh 
thff atiDOGt zeal and perseverance; nothing', however, 
cnnlil refti.Ht the impetui»ity uf the dame*, which Hpread 
frotn one opartmcut to anolhex with the most incredible 
violence. Ry two o'clock next morning the roof had 
fallcu in. Ihe whole hou^e, the northeast wing excepted, 
WBf) one roDtinoed (Inme, and, brforc daylight, was com- 
pictely burnt to the RniuntL 

** The old tower wliich adjoins the Iioum, and wUoli 
was bailt prior to tho year i;il.\ vra& rortunatelv savecL 
though prulmhly it would have jitiared the same rate had 
not nn enixine arrived from >hiiwpark just oa tho tiro bad 
K-ized npon the turf with which the pas^«ge9 betwixt the 
Tower and iho ' > . . i ^^,^ btirricadcd. 

•• Wo arc I i ^^tflud that all the books and 

paiwrs and a > pnrt of tho furniture wcra 

esved, and most c-f the pictuiea, though we have to regret 
the lo« of an original picture of Slary Quocn of Scot% 
puinted on copper, and a bswm and ewer, the amboMtr 
dor> present from (^ucen Kliznbvih to the Earl of Mar, 
tho Treasurer t (Repent?) of Scotland, which unfortu- 
nately fell a prey to the tlainc5, as did moat uf the lodfeft' 
jewels. Fortunately no lives were lost; nnd, whot wac 
and whot is suryniVinH-. not a single jwrwiu received M 
hurt, though mnr.y of them were often exposed lo the 
moat imminent daoKer, 

•' The fumilv of Mar have t-xpres'od tbemMve* to \m 
deeply Motihie to tho great exertions made by il*a 
neighbourhoud to save their propcrtv on the ni^bt of 
the Ore, as well as of tbe kinducss and aiteations whicll 

. 4* 9^<.tf>9.&c.,for«D account ofihis 
lUU lijatt, who Gooimenced life as a robber chief 

• ESnhur<ii» Erntinff Omrant, September 2. 1801. 

t Mistake. The spcon-I F.ilwas Lrird IUt;h Trraturer 
of Scotland from 16 K^ nniil lti30. He was a Knight of 
the Garter, and died in ItyJIi. 




they hare experienced from all ranks since this unfor- 
tanate accident." 

As the Erskino title of honour waa in ezutowe 
antecedent to the peeragea of Hemes and Hilj- 
The library, -which contained a quantity of burton of DIrleton, in both of which female lae- 
valuable worlds, -was afterwards bequeathed to a I cession -was recognised, it might be inferred that 
daughter by John Francis Erskine, wlio by an Act ! it would descend in a similar manner.- BatthM 
of Parliament was restored to the title of Earl of ' is merely speculative, as there is no Toom fix 
Mar upon Junel7, 1824, and was subsequently sold tr}'ing the c[uestion, inasmuch as the title is now 

by auction. Besides the family arras upon the 
boards, there wrs olao pasted a curious engraving 
of the old tower which so narrowly escaped the 
iiames, and which had been engraved about the 
middle of last century. Both arms and to-wer 
were carefully effaced from the books prior to the 
sale. A very few, however, accidentally escaped 
this vandalism. The date of the erection of the 
tower is said to have been prior to 1315 ; and a 
reduced engraving, evidently taken from the one 
used by the Mar family, is given in a small work 
entitled Alha and its Envirom 

under attainder, there never having been mj 
reversal of tho forfeiture in 1715, the sepante 
honour of Mar, which had devolved on the En- 
kiiies upon the death of Alexander, by coortof 
Earl of Mar in 1437 or 1438, only having be«B 
restored in 1824. J. ]i 


exists, and, it is hoped, will be kept in proper 
repair. It afibrds a charming view of the beau- 
tiful country which surrounds it on every side. 

The Alloa barony was given by Ba-vid II. to 
the Erskines in lieu of the estate of Strath gartney, 
in the county of Perth, which had come into 
their possession. The Erskines came originally from 
Benfrewshire, and became Lords of Parliament at 
an early date, long before the time when the 
predilection said by Lord Mansfield to have been 
shown in Scotland in favour of heirs male came 
into operation ; for by the older practice, which 
existed generally until the return of James I. 
from his English captivity, heritage and heritable 
rights by law devolved on the heir without re- 
gard to sex. 

The exact time of the admission of the Erskines 
as " Domini Parliamenti " has never been exactly 
fixed; but it is established that, in 1458, Thomas 
Erakine was a Lord of Parliament, as there is on 
record a charter under the great seal (Lib. 6, 
37) of confirmation, proceeding on the resignation 
of Thomas Dominm Erskine, whereby the king 
grants " omnes et singulas, terras do Dalnotteris," 
with the pertinents, lying within the Levenax 
(Lennox) and county of Dumbarton," dicto Thome 
et heredibw suis" to be held of his majesty and 
Am heiris and successors. 

Thomas, believed to have been the second peer, 
had^ a son Alexander, who is styled in the fol- 
io-wing charter as bis son and heir apparent. 
Alexander obtained from the crown on August 26, 
1485, upon his own resignation, a grant of the 
entire barony of Balhaghirdy, lying -within the 
barony of the Garviauth (Garioch) and county of 
Aberaeen, together -with an annual rent of four 
marks sterling annually, payable from the lands 
of Flandris, in the same county, to himself and 
his heirHf to be held of the king, Aw Iteirs and 

• Alloa, im, 1 

Monsieur le K^dacteur, — Dans ce moment, it 
The tower still I suis occupd a faire le catalogue des manuacrits de 

la Bibliotb^ue de Tours, capitale d'une provinet 
qui, au temps des guerres de la France avec TAa- 
^leterre, a 6i4 en contact avec voa compatriotiL 
Je me ferai un plaisir de vous envoyer le rdsolW 
de mes recherches sur des manuscrits ponmt 
donner des renseignements in^dits aur llustainik 
la littf^rature anglaises. Les rapports eoln h 
France et I'Angleterre devenan^ chaque job, 
plus intimea, j'esp^re que mes commnnicatMl 
pourront intdresser les lecteurs des NeU$ md 

Le manuscritdont yaih voua entretenir anjoi^ 
d'bui est im charmant missel sur v^lin, 6c& M 
Angleterre dans la premiere moiti^ da xv* mkdb, 
en lettres gothiques avecinitialeaenlumittdei. Oi 
volume, conserve a la Biblioth&que munioinlBde 
Tours sous le N"* 183 contient aux foL 10^ M; 
171, 200, 359, 380 et 401, des omements ur- 
ginaux exdcutiSs avec art et dans le meilleor go6^ 
et de plus, sur les gardes du commencement dM 
renseignements biogrnphiques trds-importanti. 

Dans le moyen age, il Itait d'usage de coBfis 
aux marges d'un missel ou autre livre pi^eiit 
la mention d'un ^v^ncment dont on voulaitnodn 
lo souvenir durable. C'est ainsi que l*ontroafe 
sur un des feuillets qui prdct^dent notre bumI 
une note indiquont que le monuscrit a d'aM' 
appartenu a la famille de Ilungerford dont 1^ 
des mcmbres, Walter Hungexford, a jou6 on itk 
k la prise de Frovins par les An^ais en octohl 
1432 ; et ensuite a la famille de Bueil qui potff- 
dait en Touraine le chateau de Vaujour doatM 
admire encore les ruines imposantes k qodqiM 
lieues de la ville de Tours. 

Nous donnons ici le texte m^nA de la noti 
dcrite sur fo mauuscrit, et qui mentionne lessoilf 
des personnages, membres des illustres ftmilfi)* 
dont je viena dc parler. .Tean de Baeil, 6' da nc^ 
comte do Sancerre, etait fils d^ chambellaa ds 
Charles VI tud a la bataille d'Azincourt Ba^ 
nommd lo ^^att (lei AngtaiSy il les combattit tf 

&v. Jax.2o/;o.] 



loramndio ct druis lo Mnin<: et ae troura »u si'^go 

<'herbour^en 1450. 

' ' lid iiiU«aU' (latum et conccssum p»i Hobcrtn Ilun- 

!. miliil, ilomintnif Molvnn et (li* Fan;^'ucriion, per 

— ) -minum ch' Huii^'Ttord et de llcittsbary el 

Min <>anm, In vii^ilia sADctl Jacgbi n]>oi»toli» 

>i miil<!siino rcrt'"" xLix**, et anno rcgni 

. i fiexu xxvn'"*', qui quidcni \Valtera\ 

Ifun^rfonl, obiit medi.i Irnra inter hcrratii 

'."uniiam post nonam, in vi^ilia sanctt Lau- 

:i i*, pni\iina firr|iic'nit. in canlro .ino de tYarie 

I I'ujui oiiime l>cu.-* pnfiicictur. Aiiteu." 

.. ^ '.) 

1 tiu Ao^usti. Obitiu U'oltcri damini dc Hun^-cr- 
, . , JiiiDM Domini millesinto ctX'C"* XLix*", Hlteradomi- 
ni. i!i K." (FoL 7 r**.) 

De 1ft mnison de HuDgerford le missel pa^sa 

18 cello de liueil. Dini'i-«iit*?9 maius out i\joul»5, 

le« feuillcts blnncs et ditns quelques espaces 

le*, dw not«s TeUtives ii I'hiatoire de cetto 

lie, et dout voici Ic teste : — 

« neofri^sme jour d'aonst mil cccc cinquante hutt, 

Itn buit et oeuf lieurvft apn\Hmidy, courranl la {diiuJ-'te 

loleil. fu ne au ehaAtal de Vaujoux Loys de Lucil, filz 

Hobl«» »f r'iii*''^^t M^i^tiur nx^uiro Jebon, stl^neur <!u 

' -. admiral de Krnin'c, et dc dame 

:;ie. Lemuel Lo_\sfu baptizi^ cu 

II Anjou. El fiirent sea parrains 

Fntns-ois de Bretaigne, contc de K.^tamptfS, reve- 

en Dieu mcAsire Jvhan dc Bcaavnu, c^wsque 

Kc sa mtrritine noble dame Jehenne Cbal)ot, 

lontsorran, femmcde messiro Jehan dc Jambcs, 

et premier inoiatre d'ostet du roy no^tni sire." 



moillc, sieur dc Bresclie. et «« mnrniucs Frnitcicoi(«e de 
Uueil, dauie d*: Menu:uide, et Annt* de Bueil, lille natu- 
re] lo dti dit ai«ur couitc. Kt fut nac^e au chasul de la 
Marchtire, I5JJ." (Kol. I7U.) 

Je demAodo k quelcju'iin des leel^urs dcs Noteit 
Qtul Querif* : — 

1^ LK.'.5 dt^tatls 9ur riung^rford dont il est 
question dans lea notea ci-duasus. 

"2'*. Si Ton couuftit en Angleterroquelqnes docu- 
ments pouvant noua apprcudre comment notre 
manuscrit ntirait passi^ do la famille de Hunger- 
ford dans cello dea de Bneil. Avcc ce« ranseigne- 
ments, on saurn pourquni ce chormant manuacrit 
se troure inaintenant a la Bibliothdque de Tour?. 
Vouillez recovnir, Mongieiirle R<5dttCteur, 
mea Balutfttiona trea-eniprcR^t^ea, 

Le Conaervateiir de la BibUoth'>qiie dt> Tours, 

Toars, 1« G di^cembre 1669. 

Domini mincnmo cccc*™ qaf nquogesimo octftro, 
rii Dona mensls nugiuti, ad boram oetavam post 
icui. rtirrent^ pUneiFi S'dis, natii.-t fuJt Ludovtrii% 
itn .Kduinniit rlu Itolio et Martine Turptui\ »'jus- 
In qtifl die prcdictn maxima Icticia I'uii ex 
vital*." ( Ful. I v.) 

- -r-'-'^t jp p^ mors [do jnnvicr], mil ciaq 

(, furent cp^i^cz tre-s Ii.iult et [iiiis^ant 

_ i.-'ur LoyB sire dc Bucil, comtc <le fcan- 

v*tlier de I'ordrr, cappiLaine do cent geiitil/.- 

da aa maiAon ct *on i^r.nid eachanczoo, et tr^e 

pnimantc dame madanio Jacqaelinc dc la Trc- 

iOe, filii* de traa illiutru jirinue Franczoiii du la Tre- 

atxie«me jour dc octolirc, I'un mil cinq cens cln- 

a huict hcurcs du maiin, conrant la planutc . . . 

•Q cbmrtel da V.iljoyculx: Ji-hnn dc llueil, lilz dn 

ct puiHant aeigncur me^siro Lovn, sfigneur de 

^DL« de danscrrr. cbcvallier de Torilrc du royet 

ine de cent geniilzhommei) de la tnnison ct fcrond 

nda diet nienr, et dedame Jaccjuelincdo laTrc- 

femme. Lequcl Jelian fut baptt«e' en la c\\a.\f 

1 diet Valjoycux. V.i furent »c« paralns Jeban de 

frr^rneor de Fontaiucj, et son frere (ieorpca de 

■it'ur de Bouilly, ct ?« maraine noble dame 

Marpiorite dc Bruc, dame du Boys/* (Fol. 

^i premier jour du mnj-s de juilkt Tan mil 

"iiiiflHTe pt detir, h deiix Ii»:urc4 aprt* midi, 

' iLjncur mcs-tira Loyii, 

.c:hevall;t.T de I'ordre 

... ^, ... ^ .......Iiummes dc Aa maison 

''>[| du diet M;igneur,et ue dame Jarquo 

■■x'^^ 8fl fcmme, fut nae'e ct iMiptic^e en 

« I- tiicniyllrf. Et fat aon paraio Loya de la Tre- 


Polly Stewart, celebrated by Burns for her 
beauty, wfta daughter of Mr. William Stewart, of 
whom I haTe already spolcen (4"' S. y. 55). ner 
mother was an En j^liah woman, the widnw of 
John Lee, Esq., of Luflwieb, Northamptonshire, 
bv whom aha had a daughter Ilaunah, who 
died at Cloaeburn Castle, 17^:^J, aged twenty- 
three years. Sbe was married to Mr. Stewart 
about 177*1, and Polly was born about the year 
1775; and would, therefore, be in her sixteenth 
or seventeenth vear when aho became Imown to 
Buma at Close^um Caatle, hor father's houae. 
Some old people, who still remember to have seen 
her in her younger days, speak in enthusiastic 
terras of her beauty and the alimneas of her form ; 
and even those who knew her when ^he had 
reached threescore, say tiiat her youthful figure 
was such that it was only when her couutenanoe 
waa feen that you could believe that she was 
advanced in years. She waa first married to her 
cousin Iithmael f^tcwart, and hod by him tlireo 
sons, William, Charles, and Alexander, who were 
living with their grandfather at Laught in 1805, 
and attending Wallace Hall achooL Ifer husband 
Ishmael waa obliged to leave the country under a 
cloud, and dared not return. At what time he 
died, and where, is unknown : but Polly in 1801 
was, tradition snyfl, obliged to marrj' against her 
inclination Mr. George WeUh, grand-uncle to the 
late Mr;?. Thomas Carlyle — one of the moat re- 
spectable tenants on the Queenaberr)* estate, in 
whoae family the farm of Mortou Mains had been 
for many years. Such marriages are seldom for- 
tunate, and Polly did not find herself an excep- 
tion. She waa of a gay disposition, a lover of 
pleasure; and Morton Mains is now, and waa 
then still more, distant from the busy haunts of 
men. Their married life was not happy, and tha^^fl 




tesvtU wofi that they fioparnted. She returni*d to 
her fnther's hotise, who bft'I Itikon up his abode 
in 18(Hi in Maxwelitown. She had two dauffhlrrs, 
who predeceased her. DTMiifrie-? whh nl ihat time 
ftill of Fri*nch olUccrs, prisoaiirs of war; and 
aiuonji them wo^^ a handsome Swi:^, of the name 
of rieitx, to whom she became unfortunately 
nttfu^bed, In ppite of all remouri trances &he 
joined her fato to that of Fleite, acrompnny- 
lag him to Franco, where Fleitz found em- 
ployment in the Snnfifi tro<^ps embodied bv 
Louia XVIII. In thifi 8«>rvico he rcmiuned (ill 
1830, and Polly contluued with him. In that 
year Louis }*hilippe a'^conded t!ie throne, and dis- 
missed the whole of the Swias uierceunries, wlieu 
Fleit/. found himself tbrnwn nn th« wirle wi.)rld. 
He hud for many ycare been stitioned with his 
reginiQDt in the island of Cor-ica, but then re- 
turneil to Switzerland with Polly, whore we find 
her dating the following interesting k-tlers from 
Laiifteobiirp, near Bnsle. 

She was now approftching* thrwiecore years; 
•ad the glamour that had been thrown oveT her 
eyes by pasaon, thirty years before, mubt have 
Men long diampnted. There is a deep-pent yearn- 
in^'- in these letters for kuowled^ of the iate of 
those children of whom ebe could not for^t that 
she waa the mother. Iler own immediate rela- 
tires bad passed into the grave, and the writes 
evidently at a venture to one whom »be had 
known manj* years before to have been the con- 
fidentiHl friend of hor younfftiit son Alexander. 
The late Mr. l^ajprnn, tn whom they are addresaed, 
was the proprietor of the King's Arms Hotel, 
AfAxwelltown, and one who passed through lil'ti 
highly respected by a large circle of friends. I 
have to thank his eon, Mr. William Pagan, for a 
oopy of the following letters : — 

" Feb. ISLh, 1831. 
" Mr clear Sb-, 
" Since riie dale of your letter. Dec *24tb, 1824. wbicb 
now lii« upfiti the table I)«rare nie, no doubt the dUtanre 
of lime ndaiitU uf many chant;e«. But no ounmldcriitiMn 
of this event or Ibe other nccideni can dlfrcourage me 
frMTt flvaiting mvAelf of tlie pTPM>nL ocoaaion to oddmsA 
wywlf to you ; the confidence in mv ttowm of ynur 
frifnddhip remain* [onJin^pjiireU by di^tiiacc, silence, or 
abwn(H\ That if voa con rtndcr or affoni me frailsfac- 
tion. jtiin'd tt-itti liafipine*«i, you will not neslrct my 
pTwufit urdent praj'er. You was the friend or my two 
BOB«: inform nie then, my deer friend, of tbeir fate, I 
o haCTrc you was in correflj>andence wiih Alexantler : mt, 
baK br) relumed to bin n»tiTp land, where or what bfcainc 
of him. I'oor Cbarlex ! hi^ ^aiu lutcrcsts ino deeply — 
his heoK was k'>'''1— '•'• kindness to mo when Iif-t In 
8<.'orlan<i mndc a losttnir inipn-ssion in my heemftd h^nrt. 
Ple»«« pr«*fnC tlic kind re^'ardt* uf Ida old Jicquiiintiiitrn 
Mr. F. to Mr. Kigx and futnily, sod if be m »til1 at 
Pne^iland. 1 am at pnwen*, jii-t rc-iUTned from the 
I«taiid tpf t'or-uca, wliere I na* fur a very htnjf timo. My 
buV' 'ne"""y visit4 MnswelllowM hut too nHcn. N« 
eouiitrr, no chan;^ of pcenc. can hloi from my hn^om mv 
mitntland. P«^an, renu>nil)er me, and AiHu<^r my peti- 
tion. Uod will reward you for ttiia act of goaduev. lly 

(he direction you wnt me, 2 tr>''d to And All 
Mv 1-ttcr^and eufjniHps were Ln vain. 

" Present nur juin'd leiranU Im Mrt. P«(»*ti. A« 
evrrv warm wi<ih of _vnur old ticjiiniiitanoo— to 
woald moki* him very happy. 

** ( nm sorry to bv nhlijL;e<l (41 put you to tbe es] 
of po'^tDjrc, hilt the difTercnl coimtr^''e nccJi«ii_ni Ibia 
cnniKtance : from here I ran ntily p«y the ~ 

Calaii, m you mun pay the iolund TM^-iiaire lo 

Let Tiie bc^ of yi»u to writ* me rrrr^ v 

about hiui. I hnvc wrote about nl thr ^ 
(if n«'WH 01 pnAsible. 1 am Kurv I wtmi ■. 
Dumfries. Direct to me Od fuUuwA: Mr*- h\*uLa, 4 
funlmrKh, en Swi-t^c, Cdnloii ilAr^nvip. 

" I am, (k'or Pagan, your» fur ever oblig'd wrll mU\ 
and fiiooere friend, 

- M. PlXtM." 

*' Ifyou know aitytbinc of liraco W. there, I 
interested al*i>. In course uf two wueki you will 
iljis. Adieu!" 

^ May SMh, li 
" Dear Pa^an, 
" Ah if writing is permitted from the Etuian 
address mywlf once more to my old n • . -*, 

douhtini^ hii flK-iistance, and of vour *f 'tl 

same pticp. Formerly kiiowin)» y(Mir 

p4>Hiiion, the interMt you hnve app-L^aitd Im LaU« 

immediate departure of my unfurlunote «in A" 

.Stewart fur America pcr^m' - * "' 

of niiikini; loy present ap; 

corr»«p node nee with him, >■ 1 

ardent desired inform.*ition of \v,& luti*. lht< p 

line of my ]ioor ChnrlM produ(*en no hnpc to tean^ 

became of liim ; hi* honest heart whu early made 

the checker 'd path thot mnrbs fifr. 'S-mie are 

mourn.' Uurtv memory give." a relr-iiJi.crt ti. \^■;\^^4 

The auddcn death of* my father ; 

the welfare of Alexander. Ttit 

tion plnnpt-d him into a labyrinth •.,. 1 j 

he dereivrd in every point, r< iiderd hit' 

me mi*erahlp. Fiirgtt mv chiiitrm ftn 

nevfr can. My dear sir, hear then n; 

charity, the first prin'ip]*- of our trxi*^ i- 

mind. Throw not the<>c tine* a^ide, bttt 

me. The Gnd who command* the ftn 

you and yours for this bntrinlmcr. T . 

to the pttjtion of the unhappy. 1 

letter will pr<«duee, could you 1" 

nbftarh of the inland postage. In l- • 

thi<t will reach you— in the oourw of t 

the hiippinew of your letter will arrive. . 

is alive. Remember me. 
*'N.B. Diro'jt as foMowo: Madame Pleill. 4 

bouT^r en Swissfl, Canton d'Argovic, p. Ba^le. 
" Our join'd regards to Mrs. Pa^an, yoursdC 

ever believe me to be 

Sinrerely your- w^lwUhafi 
Makt' St t. wart Pi 
" P.S. 1 hope, Ainccruly bujic. iai*d will bupi 
huart to answer my ardent prayer with 4tM4r' 

ntid advice. Adieus* 

LBuiT.inUtirji;, CM, «th, 11 

v*pu Iruely in the ii::hl 
niiil 1. . 1 ..., jin.i'cen«i> I'll' ■■' luui.Lii 
friend, MUtiFihle am 1 
quenily your kirn! ron , 
a ''UtG-icnt liida;'emetit (■■i im- [<■ 
and wi'll-diipoHni di'•l)Ulli(f^>» to r 

)f alnalito 

.1 riiV r-*l, 




v«. flpoke <o « comnicrciul g«nLlem«n, a 
riU in Uic t-pring gn to GU*ij:')w. My in- 
y lhi« itir^lium to refutiJ the pop-tatjc of 
lenc*. Ii ii mcrtly impuiwihle to pny the 
ifrif«. I havi> frankeU tliin leltvr tliruugli 
np«irt of Ihta letter U still concerning my 
Ic'oinr If'ltrr, dutcd 2dth Juuc, came itafe 
ty». IminefJintely I wrote to Alexander 
r*tifin von (javp me in yoiir«, payiiiK tbe 
More than tlireo moDth^ are 
1 Iiiin, nutwithstatidini! yon have 
. -.,.;,. .■ u> liim, titinj{ upon the puiut ot 
vrUiniE to him yi)ur<clf. I flaltorM myself 
i-d a It-ttcr fri<m him. even if he had not 
mine— a daily diaappointmcnt is mine. 
have f^ivcn mc mora oootentmpqt thin a 
with him. Ah I know he is under many 
TOO and Mnt. Pa^fan, which miut ever 
■Btfal arknowlwli^nent, you iiatnrair are 
J trirnd, ond con solve my qac*tiyn» of 
*tniiia}iiu('iit tit oliseno you are ignorant 
nont in procnriug hid existence since bis 

rvtn^ht to iaform me of W« ]nt«ntioiu. 

'mil, or does he intend to continue 

le truvtei's at pmwnt ? Inform 

.. . ^:h of time roquirrd for letters to 

mni L>ffineTara. Inform mo of your just 
I in erery r<r»pcot. 1 nm «o ci^ncem^d in 
itind to liix future wvlfure. U'ill he really 
to htt in pow«^on of £ir>0O advr nil bu 
•aod that iofurmation overcame me with 
>t be unhnppy with so neat an intlepend- 
nn w««r»1- fldeqnate to exprexs mv joy to 
>ii. I am anlacky that I cannot 

•■rring my poorGmoe i» another 

me. inform me if abe getA better, and as 

Dow about bor. Bv whom wax nhc plarcd 

v»id" ? W'M, wert, my friond, it m:iy ({o 

m rtill their mother, and from my (uthpr 

■M etericcsl. How I would be hnppy, and 

lave an hoar's conveiYation with you— to 

lOMltJp-. Inform me of the welfare of your 

umber i« extensive. Your eldest 

M up. Mta. Pag^an i\ I hopo. in 

,1 nliin. Inform me of thp ohnnf?- 

ii-B Niid Maxwelltown — the impruvementa 

luTonn mf> of the pric« of markets. What 

.1 wine anl spirit*? — Xaxi^i wrn* 

I btlievo the pri'»*nt Kinj; I* 

ii*th govenimenl 1" tho b»-«t and 

-i-t 3 year^ I have seen nothing 

itcnt. I wa.1 in thf ]^land of 

'['•u in Fratire hapi>en'd : sinrt; 

have been hcrt. The pr'>cnt 

i the Swi*j«e rp^rimpnl from the 

' we mar'nrr. Tbeie Irt'-t 3 yeam 

I >. Answer this, my dear friend, 

■^ tn Mrs. Pagan, join'd by 
i)i!e FI<-iU, Aeocpt of every 
irltni^iinnnl, auU believe mc to be always 



M. Fusixat," 
** Lflnffcjiboxg, Nov. 1»C, 1833. 

of mine will have the KO"d>ies<( to 
irmi Pofii Oftice. and will (wy tint 
^le. Mr. Paijan, my tulvutiuEu 

are good and honcjit to pay you all the expense of 
pontage, NeewMty, mv friend,' urges me to iinportnna 
you on the part of AUxandiT. AJy wishi-!. cnimot be 
communicated, my pen rount be m»ed in a limil(?d manner. 
Personally, I would Rpeake to you in a confidential man- 
ner, but at prewnt prudence must anuir my pen. Your 
friendly adnce would aid mc. Ah-xaoder adhi-rcs to< 
Alienee with mc : -4 months are pamM away without any 
acknowli'd^CHnunt from bim, aJthoa.;h I know letten 
arrive here in due course from all parts of America ; 
even 3 moiUhi ago there are letten arTfve<i from tboM 
who h'll IhiH plncH in the month of March la*t, 4c, Mj*- 
friend, my memory is ftound. Contrary to my inlentioi^ 
on m,y departure from MaxwclUown, on account «f Alex-, 
andc^r'ti ot'cuponnn, whiL-h (yave mc no pleasun*. lit- pnM| 
mi-w-d to inf')rm mc duely of ni}' mother — Tliot I rnaM 
immodifttUy be with her.should her bi^olth require me. 1{< 
promiMd and deceived mc, by ncvArinfurmtUK me tn ani 
manner, Ac. He persuadL-d my dtair mother to tivo hlmT 

EomcmIoq of what should have been mine. Ton l>eat' 
aow bi» conduct. Bis alienee towards me shows me I| 
come not under hii^ conrideratfon, although his richea ai 
ttie (uirtiality of mr father, and 1 am to be duertcil*'^ 
The chagrine of my bosom ha.i no description. 

" Tell me, my friend, crerylhing you know. What la 
hifl employrnoTit in America? Are you of opinion bli 
experience will prove a Ufcoful leA-ron ? Ik hii* pa-i»ion for 
pambttng cured? Have you any information where he 
oieanH to live ? The conaequenec of his gooil fortune will 
chfingc bio viewf. Sorry would I bo to think he will br 
little and little apt^n<l hib fortune In America : in generw 
the people go to make roonc>*, bat not to «pend, &c. In- 
form me who are the tmiteos for falm. I am anxloui to 
luiow who they are, 

•* A retrospect of bu^ memor>- toll* me Alexander hu 
twoil mc very ill. Poor Charie* Mitrired alto, hut he had 
a kind and good hvnrt for me. Inform nie if my dear 
Ron will come to Scotland, and what manner he means to 
employ his money for hi> future good. My good friend, 
looae no time in p;inng mc answer pointedly. Tell me if 
yon can, be it good or bail, Sci\ 

"I am at pnv-teiit in a di^a^grecablo country. The 
people arc not oggrecable. The olimate in not lurl for the 
north. They grow mnrh wine, but in we.ik and aoor. 
Infuriii me if the confuMon in Portugal ha« h;td iin effeet 
upon the port wine — what U the price (►f Ibc bottle ? The 
price of markets I would like to know. The taxe« are 
rtnlufed, I am sure, Sm. 

** N.B. I hope <iod will give his blortung to my in- 
trntiofiK; nnd you wilt not f»il to answer, othcrw/iyal 
mu*t belit-ve you have fur^jot me uli*o. Tell me whal 
family you have — everything i^ int<r(*Hiing to me. My 
country is dear to mr boaom. And adieu ! 

Mabv FLRira. 

*• N.B. Arc you arquointed with the trustees? I de- 
pend u[>on h''aringfr(»ni yon — pmdenoe pr*»vcnt4 me from 
epeaking more pUiu, &o. 

" N.B. Your fri'*nd «ince three yeara by thu Frrndi 
rcvolniion is no more in the military line :' it ha« been a 
Nev«re change. .My dirci-tion i» a* Icfore : Mndim Plirits, 
I«nuniynliurti, Canton d'Argovie, en Swiss, P. Ua->cl. J 
am, with compIimcnU to Mn. Pagan, youmelf. remain 
Yonr riooerc friend, 

U. Klwt«.*' 

Polly bad ftill the de*^p inti^rest of b mothpr in 
the f*to of AlexnndtT, thrtiijrh hi* had not treated 
her well, as who states in ht^r letters. She re- 
turned to Scotlnud iu l.<34. when tthe expected 
llirtt he \ra« to comi? hack; but, ftlae ! wbe-n h» 
mftde hi* apponronco, she found hU heallh flo 



[4»8.V. Jah.W,';* 

entirelr prostrated bj the climftte of Demerara, 
where he had reaided for manj years, that he was 
unable to walk. The mother and son had been 
too long separated to have much sympathy with 
each otner. Though Alexander was obliged to 
be wheeled in a chair, he took to himself a wife, 
and this induced Polly to return to France. After 
some years Fleitz died, when Polly took refuge 
with a cousin in Florence. Her mind at last gave 
wayi and she was removed to an asylum, dying 
there in 1847, in the seventy-second year of her 
age. She had aurvived all her children, who 
had all died without odspring. Such was the 
chequered fate of "lovely Polly Stewart," of 
whom Bums sings thus : — 

« O lovely Polly Stewart I 
O charming Volly Stewart I 
Tbere'd not a flower that blooms in May 

That's half so Tair as thoa art. 
The flower it blaws, it fades and fa*a. 

And art can ne'er renew it : 
But worth and truth eternal youth 

Will give to Polly Stewart 
May he whose arms shall faold thy charms 

Possess a loal and trae heart ; 
To him be ^ven to ken the heaven 
He grasps in Polly Ste;nrttrt. 
lovely PoHv Stewart ! 
charming ^olly Stewart ! 
There's ne'er a flower that blooms ia May 
That's half so sweet as thoa art." 

CBAFFTrKi) Tajt Rasuob. 

Two BAitE Books. — At a sale of books and 
MSS. at Canterbury, on January 4, 1870, two 
books were sold which seem to be wortiiy of a note 
in " N. & Q." I cut out of the catalogue the de- 
scription of the two lots : — 

" 168. A Choice Banquet of Witty Jests, Rare Fancies, 
and Pleasant Novels, being an addition to Archee's Jests, 
1660, fine frontispiece, 12mo. 

*'*«* Ko copy in the Daniel, Smith, or Coraer collec- 
tions ; the companion volume sold at Daniel's sale for 
ISt, and at Smith's for 8/. 8«. 

"178. r Shakespeare Wm.] The Tragedie of Richarde 
Duke of York, and Death of King Henry VI. ; 'Printed 
at London for W. W., for Thomas Millioficton, and are to 
be sold at his shoppe ander Saint Peter's Church, in Corne- 
viOl, 1604 ' i 4to. 

"•,• This is the orginal form of Shakespeare's King 
Henry VI., part 11.; three editions were printed, bat 
neither Geo. Danid nor Geo. Smith possessed a copy of 
either edition, and the copy sold br auction of this edi- 
tion in May, 1857, the propertr of Mr. J. O. HalliweU, 
fetched 60/. Two leaves K 1 and'E 2 are slightly damaged. 

** In the same coyer is bound Massingcr's Maid of 
Honor, 1632, 4to.'* 

I am not sure whether lot 168 was complete. 
It was in a deplorable condition, the leaves oeing 
secured in the corer by a string. It fetched nine I 
pounds ten shillings. 

Lot 173. The two plays are stitched together^- i 

not bound — and I think the edges of botk lal 
been cut. The lot was knocked down at aen* 
teen pounds ten shillings. J. M. Conn 

Tarrikq AiTD Featherivo. — ^HoTedsn, qoohl' 
in Hook's Lives of the Archbishops of CoHMitff 
states that Kichard Oceur de Lion, in the Imt 
lud down for the regulation of his fleet iM 
sailing for the Holy Land, enacted that — 
I " a robber who shall be convicted of theft shall bin 
I head cropped after the manner of a chami^oo,soiU^ 

ing pitch shall be poured thereon, and then tbe ftifl 
I of a cushion shall be shaken oat upon him, so tW 
mav bo known, and at the first land at which Ik ' 
shall touch he shall be set on sliore.*' 

From the minuteness of the directions ginal 
the process, it would appear that the lion-' 
king was the original aeriser of the idea of 
reversing the conditions of construction ofT 
man." The next notice I have met with 
the — 

" strange carriage of that boisteroas Bishop of 
stadt (for so they term him here), ^at barin; 
place where there were two monasteries ofnnnstiii 
he caused divers feather-beds to be ripped, tod li 
feathers to be thrown in a great hall, whithir tk i 
and friars were thrust naked with their bodies cfliijl 
pitched, and to tumble among these feathen; 
makes them here presage him an ill death." 

Thus writes James Howell from "ihiei. 
1623. Again, the custom appears in 
1606, when the inhabitants of tbe Saroj 
dealt with one who had presumed to ester 
precinct to demand a debt from a person «h»i 
taken sanctuary there. It is stated to bant 
their usual custom, and after the 
feathering was complete they carried the 
bailiff in a wheelbarrow into the Stnnd, 
bound him fast to the Maypole. (Jesse's 
rials of London, 2nd Series, ii. 378.) Otbffi 
stances on this side the Atlantic I hare noti 
3f. I presume that the " Bishop of Halvi 
is a nam de gtierre^ but it is singular that MVi 
piece of barbarity should have tuen itsnttj^ 
it did, on 80 solenm an occasion as the prer 
for a crusade. VnWil 

Coins of Cok8TANTI0S.— T^et me notei 
(so I believe it to be*) in Dr. WiUiam 
article on Constantius III. (Smith's 
Roman and Greek Bioffraphf, ^c, 1844.) 
nays : " Only gold coinn of Constantius ban I 
found.'' I find ou the best authorities that i 
coins of this emperor are common. 

E. H. Kirowi* 

TiUBs's " Lives op "Wits and HniouBists.';- 
It is one of the functions of " N. & Q." to [ ^ 
out errors in popular books. I wish, therefo^"' 
call attention to the two following, which oo" 
in Lives of Ults and numo^friMs^ by John Tin 
F.S.A. 18G2. The first is in vol. L p. 62, ** 
an anecdote ia related of Dean Swift w^ ' 





f Arciibisbop of Ciwliel. Thi» 
way ho seen ou reference to 
'couttMiiporary, Dr. IIu(*U ]:Joiillf?r, 
Arrn»i;^!i, ft ropv of "which LcUen 
Qetl through tlio useful meiUum 

rror is comprised in the foUowing 

parUlidi namnl FoAton inYorktiMrc; 
Kidinp, tti« olbor in tho Jvast ItMln^: 

SmUli's living wbi Uie laller — a ilur- 
iltoat six and a hoJf mitu from Great 
ttte'l ill the Kirig'?4 Itonks at hi/. 8«, 6<f., 
h SOU/, a-ycar.'— /6)U ii. 230. 

i*s living was the redoiy of FostoD 
:iding, which includes the town- 
D-Ie-Clay. Lady Holland, in her 
i. 1806, 1. 147), calls it Foston-le- 

the gift of the Lord Chancellor. 

Foston-on-tlie- Wolds, ncnr Drif- 
d in the York iJioceMH CaUttilar 
md in th<) gift of Miss BAyles. In 
y* ^f' '*/ f^^ Cotmiy of Yorkf 
410, tho" Kev. Sydney Smith ia 
icumbeut of botU i*'ostouB. 
fc • map nf the county, Mr. Timbs 
m thiit he waa crediting Sydney 
possible hftrd work in driving from 
Poston, in tlie Ewt Riding, every 
ith dUcU an asaiatnnt ^» Peter the 

H w. c. n. 

Hro Solosiox. — I suppose King 
nconsidered as ft poet, out I do not 
m in the mind of Alexander tho 
i following sentiment was penned. 
lit take rank in the curiosities of 
the extraordinary sentence which 
le chapters of The lilla^e on the 
tbnt attribution which is not un- 
Bofthesfiying (Herbert's ICftien- 
ut the shorn lamb to tho Bible. 
, d« Bamboaillet], en outre, nn cnur 
m» dcpluA^rnnd plaUir que d'enroycr 
n tea ceoiioniiea qu'clle pouvail faire, 
lavoir duu Uur veoatt c«tte 

lit Mrac RainUoui1I«t, qui* donner est 
lerab plm lojii, etjcpn-tend« qucc'c«t 
M* Un *U nf»* gnin/ii pocte* a rrimme 
\tatXe nutrime en nn tent nrt, t'un dta 
faiU dtpuit que I'onftiU iiet ten : 
pauvrc*, prcte a Uicu."* 
tvif -V/r d ton SiCcU, chap. xxW. 
J. D. C. 

X BEAHrso.s IX Frakci:, 

price Mt upfin t^cntility in Frani'^ 
hoMKleO of their p«fdi,;TfeH and 
to raze their Arms out vf iheir 

plate, and pull down tlicir KotVlieoas out of the churches 
to avoid plying the nrw imposition. Fnr which several 
have Ij«u coniKimnwl (o pny^rcat forfeiture, and lose the 
piivile;:© of ever bearing arm-* af^ain for the fuiure.'* — 
From the Mnnthfif Mfrcnrif^ July, ir.:!i, p. 210. 

Armorial bearings were firat taxed in England 
in 179S. (Ilnydn ) II. S. G. 

Beij. LiTCR\TCju!, — A vciy intereatiug work 
has lately beeu issued entitled : — 

" The Cliurch Uells of Cambridjircfhiro; a Chronicle of 
the Principal Campanological Kvents that have occurred 
within the County. To which U appended a Utt of the 
[nscripttans on the Bollt. By the Kev. J.J. Itaveii, B.D., 
of Emmanuel College. Cambridge, Ucad-Master of Yar- 
mouth (.irammar ScbooL** 

The book is published by Mr. Samnel Tymma, 
of Lowestoft, tut only one hundred copies have 
been printed. 

I may take occasion to aay that Mr. Raven is 
now preparing for the preu the " Church Bells of 

Mr. John L'Estrange of Norwich i«, I believe, 
still at work on the** Bells of Norfolk," »o that 
we may expect, among other interesting articleo, 
a faithful account of the remarkably fine peal of 
twelve bells at the well-known cburcli of St Peter 
Mancroft, Norwich. TnouAS Walesbt. 

Guldeu Square. 


AjfCUWT Cow Co.f CKIT. — In what book can I 
find the conceit, that every cow when sho steps 
ptfluips her autof^raph *' /o," i^i cn in the mud, plac- 
ing however the I in.<iddc the n? 


Ken il worth. 

BuRNs'a "Gallant Weaveil"— I should like 
to know if Bums's Paieley song *' Where Cart rina 
rowin' to tho Sea " was first published in John- 
son's iicois Musical Mit9fvmj wnore 1 find it in the 
fourth vulume. There the hero of the lyric is 
" gallant weaver." Mr. Ilately Weddell, in his 
fine edition, says — ** This song in Thomson's Col- 
lectinn is dedicated to the 'gallant sol lor.' " I 
am desirous to know when the sailor for a time 
superseded the weaver, which h-^ never should 
have done, Paisley being a manuracturing town 
and uo shipping port in Burns's dava nor since. 

J.UU8 J. hAU R. 

Underwood Cottage, Pai»ley, 

CnpBcn PoETHT. — A small yolumo nf religious 
verse, selected and original, wiia published by 
!Mesfir?. .1. & C Motley minie yeara ii;.'n, under the 
above title, and is still, I believe, in print. .Mhv 1 
ask by whom it was edited, and who among the 
original contributors are represented bv the letters 
C. and S. R. ? 'J. W. W. 



[V** S. T. J*«. «, 70. 

OrwQiTR Ports DRmfsdat Book, — Tn Th^ 
Dorneftiiti/ of KaU^ by the InUs Rnv. "L. B. Larking 
(noticed in"" N. & Q'^ 4"' S. iv. 47-48), is n most 
intt.*re»liiig nrcount rtf the lnaa of The Port* 
Dome^ddt/ Book. Until the rei;i:n of King Chnrlpa 
the First it had boon kept in Dover Cantloj nt 
which time Sir Edward Jk-riag took it awny, and 
like mnuv other borrowers he forgot to return 
it. In nil probability the book riMuninod in the 
Dcring libniry lit .Surroudea until the year 1811, 
ubout which time a 9nU took plucu; aud Mr. 
Larkin;; was iufoniied (he mo»t valuable of the 
MSS. were secured for the collection of Sir 
Thomas rbillippa. In concluding. Mr. Larking 
says — " If Ibis information be correct, there, in all 
pPL^babllity, id now deposited the Porta Dome^dai/ 
Book of which we are now epeAkin]?." C«n any 
correspondent throw a light on the whereaboiita 
q{ the book in qaestion f Oeobqk Bkdo. 

6, Pulross Ruadt Brixton. 

John Cook (4*" S. iv. 500, 575.)— Is this hero 
of the BongB mentioned by your correapondentit 
the same personage I find in an old Scottish 
ballad printed in Pieces of Ancient Poetry (Bris- 
tol, 1814, p. 51), the first verse of which runs 
thua : — 

" Johnny Conk, in a May morning. 
Sought irutirr lo wa»li bin Imnds ; 
And he is awa to louse hiit doc^s. 
That's tied wi* iron banii. 
That's lied wi' iron bans." 
The copy given of this song is not complete. 
Is a more ancient or correct copy to be met with P 
William Hakbison. 
Book Mount, I«le of Han. 

CrppuRGKNT.— A will nmde in 1689, deposited 
in Doctors' Common.'^, des<'rihed the testator a 
citizen of London, and cuppui*gent of H.M. ship 
the ILumpshire. Can vou or any of your readers 
t«ll what olHce he held ? C. R. C. 

FtiRBiGX FBKEMAfiows. — Will some one of your 
readers give the names of ratholics of fompn 
churches who have been Freemasons since 17;)8P 
The Abb6 Bnmiel, who was one, mentions 
Fraucia I. (1746); the Prince Conti ; Varlet, 
bishitp in partibue of Jiubvlon. S:c. 1 ask this 
because, thongh I think of l-'peeinasimry nmdi as 
Mr. I'lyKEiiToic. some of his lojiic seems hardly 
cogent. It ift surely not impossible for a prince 
to forget Clt'iuont XH. and his bull, when it 
seems to be convenient forpoliticji] end^. 

E. H. KxowLBfl, 


**TnE FfluiT Barrow,"— By what painter is 
the original of a me/zolint^ eugravinfj. bv J. H. 
Smith, of this subject ? U. W. iti^QBAK. 


whoflijuriahed about a.i>. 177, refers iinniistalinbly 
to mir four OoqwU. Can any of your readers 

favour me with an earUtr refereooe r To aToi 
an outpouring of metaphysics, like tbut on 
Homeric question, let me say that all that 
wished for on the pre-st^ut occasion ar»* a di«tii 
refrrwnce to the writer relied on, and, »• far as 
Rpaco of " N. & tj." will admit, the ipMvif 
verba of the passage. Taos. L'K^fTS&KOSj 

PolttnAlT OP IIovLK, — Is there any porl 
, Hoyle, the author of Whist kunwn? Ifao, 
He was bom 1672 and died 1701*. 

I JusncBS OP THE Pbac'K. — Will any < 
I correapondents kindly refer me to a pi 
MS. of the justices of the pence 1 
' from the earliest limes, especially those U 
dlesex and Hortfordshirc ? If an, they will 
oblige CnAEtxsM^ 

3. Gloaccatar Crosoent, Hyde Park. 


V. 47.) — Is it necofcsary for a civilian w 

a fori^ign order conferred upon him to obi 

royal permisKion to accept and wear it, ofi 

regulations only apply to military or D«v| 

and p(»r5c»n.s ofH.inlly employed tm serrantsi 

State ? Perhaps your well-informed cnrri 

H. S. O. cfm answer thb question. C.'C. O4 

LANGAsatKE Books. — Will any reader 
" N. & Q." inform me in what library mai 
fouu<l Lucas's Jlidvry of Wiirtvn Pnrisk, 

jng't( Rural Uitttonval Gleanings in Sondk 

ca^hire, and The Lwtsdnie Mayaziiw f The lo^T 
either of these books would be of great service 
me, as 1 am unable to find ibeiu nn oale, 

Windsor Terrace, Lougbborongb Park, Lmidim, R.WJ 

I Xapolkok L— Did the first Nupoleon, a» ; 

ral, tirst cmsul, or emperor, ever visit 
I can find do traoe that he did in the I. 
I his two famous Italian campnigna or Lit 
I Sfqnt'nt visit to Italy when he was crowned 
I Milan ; and yet it is hard to suppose, when b*' 
so near Rome as Tolentino or Bologna, he wot 
fail to visit (he Eternal City. U. H.1 


New Year Ci«tom. — It is a ouatom in Yi 
^ shire and Lancashire to take Ciue thai the 
person who enters a house on the tir»1 day 
New Year is a dark-haired man ? Qi 
origin of this custom ? T. B., 

MoTTRSiyo. — W'bere are any rules to be foi 
the length of mourning required in ordinary] 
Hsh stH'iety, fur the voiious degrees of'" 
and affinity P and have there been any 
alterations in them wilhln the Ia*t few vea.T? 

C. W. B'xSrttTAI 

Numismatic.— 1 «hs!l be glad if any of j» 
readers can tell me whoso ci>iii thia i*^ as I MB 
find it mentioned in Mitmnot. .Small 




Obr. Busts of K'wg mid Queen ; 
ir . A . A . r . V . GO. Hev. Full- 
ire with coni«ci'|iirt in l»'ft hand, 
legend, *' Ex ajsiuine solidi." 
M D. 

18 AT Ohest. — The eotmnco 

itildiiig, lotero^tiu^ aa tbu birth- 

Ciauat, ivmainH in perfect pre- 

8{>t>ctiueQ of fuurteenth century 

WAV retftina it« m(ii«ive ^Ate« of 

J* original. On either Bide U on 

In the upper port of the inter- 

(UAtrefoiled panel coninming an 

<rh tn be read without a gIftM. I 

ly one can furnish a copy- of it. 

I 'Vebka, 

DiLiwnfG. — I shall fetd oblii.'ed 
H'ltfrij whu will he kind enmigh 
f ruconl mastt'rs of ftcn and ink 
may be called, microculligraphy ? 
Iwcover the execiilora nf a very 
iph tjf microcallijrrapliy in my 
1 40 incheB by 2i inehuA in size, 
Kli^rious atid scri plural pictorial 
in reliUii>n to GocL It sL-eins to 
pnttdpftt ercDtfi in the Diirrutives 
iment from the Creatioa, at tliu 
aeat of Solomon, at the bottom. 
\» tilled with numeruiiH circular 
tuents, in which are wonderfully 
"■'"'- with the pen. In the long 
Is b«twe»'n uoch seritw of 
iwinjf* arepnnncd motto* 
1 ipe — 8oni*» large on Ter- 
itinll in white loiters on 
i under a powerful lens, 
ily Kd'*, bjth En^U-ihand 
u the drawin;^'^ appear almost 
cafif. Toinapi-ct the piece au;;- 
(omo years' employment upon it, 
one pair of ordinary eye8. The 
b^oa drawn undor a stroug lem^. 
I of pin and ink (Indiun ink) 
r saw. Surely the ani^t muat 
$CVT«a to be mentioned. 
■ J, R. Lblpckild. 

Hbroy Si|iuu«. 

Bitat woa tbe origin or reason 
Kn old lady who dlud in the 
^Mi'Ut century whs in the hahit 
Ep^ ^o ^^^^ carrittge when shv 
tPnt'Ter «hu met a fuuuml would 
^ out of tbe ciirriiige window. 
Edmitxd M. Botlb. 

i i.oeK'bravi, 
, • vUe, metm." 

W. F. 

" Wtimc'erilie mini that ^tnn(U 'twixt God and tliee 
DetVcAti'» t» a pure trttiinfMircncy, 
Tliat iitlrrnjpbi no ray. nod adds no otAiu, 
Tliort KcasDU is, and tbere be^n» her ruiffd." 

B. N. 

Whence did Swift take tbe quot«tion (" N. & 
Q.,'*4'* S*v. 6), " Semper in rerum mutationibus 
eoflpectandum ut antiqtiarum rerum umbra nliqua 
retioefttur " ? It ought to be painted in vtry 
large letters orer the de^k of every architect who 
has anything to do with an old bmldiug. 


Red Cow Milk. — In old medicine honVa and 
redoes whun milk is ordered, it ia almost inva- 
riiiblv renuired to be taken from a red coic. Query, 
why 'red? T. B., Clkrk. 

RoLP TOR Gavorr. — Some years ago Mr. 

I.ning wrote a work nn tho Xorwav **?*9f ™ 
which he rv?ferred to Rollo, tirst Duke of Nor- 
mandy, &a being ciilled Kolf the ganger, or 
walker, from tbe fact of his being too stout for 
any horse to curry hlui, and consequently hia 
pedestrian bobits. Air. Laing, however, n^ferred 
to hii* family having several onceaturs nicknamed 
the gangers. Tlie pedigree does not appeiir to be 
^Mven in that wora, though Mr. Lainj? 5uiys that 
his ancestors were kings of ^forway and Sweden ; 
he also mentions tSe father of Rolf as being 
Knjfiivald, Earl of More, who was the siw of Ey- 
stein Glumre. There are several Ey^teina kings 
of Norway, but the connecting link does not 
nppear. I should be glad if any of your readers 
could fiupply thii deHciency, or refer mo Vi any 
work on tne suhiect. What also 'ib \h*}. meaning 
of the word "Olumro" ? Mr. I.aiiijr, I may here 
obsLTve, {fi\U his ;^ttder8 that the Icin^'" of Nor- 
way dcscrndeJ, according to the s»ga^, from 
( )din, wh«*rt;aJ* they app'-ar to de«!i-nd from one of 
two brothers given to Odin as hostages. Cnn any 
of your readers explain thU ? T. HKi-SBr, 

SiCKViLLE Family. — Who wo* the knight of 
the name and funiily of Sockville who married, 
about 1(130. Elizabeth pldt-jtt daughter and coheir 
of Sir William Walter, Knt, of Wimblcdon| 
.Surrey ? I-ady Suckvillo was partiallv disiuberiteu 
by her father *Mbr her diriobedience.'^ 


Seven Soxs. — In Chnmbers's Domcfiic AnnaU 
of Scfjtland, n, 3l)B, it is slated that in February 
1082 one Hugh McGie 

'*);iivo hia bill Ut t\w Piivy Cuuncil, representing thst, 
by the practice of utht r natioofi, any tnulesntan hnviag 
wv»n soni tng(fth(^^ with'^'Utlliointorvention of adanj^Uttr 
in dt^lareil free uf all piililtc tjiinlfiim arvi taxei. ariil has 
other rn"'"urnj;*"meiit!« b'-)i(»iwoJ on him, tiien-ibk' hiin I© 
briiii^up iho sail! vhiMri»n fi»r tlip u--e and tiL-nr-ilt'if the 
cumiiKjnwealth ; and claiming a i^imilnr privjlf^u un th0 
•trcu^th of hi4 hduuj^ ttial quiilitU^iinn. VU'i rouoci) 
rrcommviiiJed the niiiK'>>trnte« [nf Kilitilnir^hl to tjikc 
Ha;;h'A A^ven sons into considcrBi ion wUlo tliey hud 
their 'fltcntA* [tni<le taxM] npon him." 




Can any of your readers ioform mo whfttnRtiona 
ore hero referred lo, and if niiy such low existed 
in Great Britain, when was it pawed, and when 
did it ceue lo bo acted upon ? 

Join? ATaccat. 


SOKEIIS: MEWTTOXGD BT Fkovsk. — In UlG la«t 
volumes of Froude'a Hi-tory mention is made of 
one Sonicrs, a subordinnte diplomatic ajrent. Is 
it known who he was ■' W'a3 he n relation of 
Henry VIII. *a jester, or nn ancestor of the Lord 
Chancellor, as was, I believe, John Soniera the 
discoverer of the Uermndas? 0. 

Oeoroivs Stknoeliv^, — I have lately pur- 
chA;9ed a book entitled — 

" Ova Pasclialia sacro en)Uc>miiii> ttiscripU dtrscriptan ; 
& Georp:^) StcTii^trlio 8oclc*talii Joiu Theologo. liigolstadii 
Auno ChriUi mdcukxii." 

There ivremore than a Imndred curious engrav- 
ings in this rather thick volume. On a fly-leaf is 
the siimntnre *' ConradiisFiirst/'and on the bind- 
ing A book-plate — Azure, a bend argi'nt between 
two rosea : *' Kx Mtaco van der Ilelle." I should 
be plad to be informed if the book is scarce, and 
whether it bo posv-^ible to obtain any particulnra 
about the author. On Uie last page is tne follow- 
ing: statement : — 

•'IneoletadiK Typw Vidwc Jftfln: Simftnls Knab p. m. 
Typi^raptu Acadcmici. aniut m.hc.i.xxji." 

R. D. Daw8ox-Duffiei.d, LL.D. 
Scpbton Rectory, Llveri>oul. 

Cbohsbow, — Among the numerous works on 
arckery which have been publi»he<t, can tou tell 
mo of any piving directions for the \\m of the 
c>08sbo\vP The only notice of this weapon I can 
find is a very brief one in Darnel's Field Sftortg, 
and a still more brief one in Strutl'a Sports ami 
Pastimes of England. The steel crossbow, carry- 
ing a half-ounce bullet, was a very favourite 
weapon, some tliirty or forty years nj{o, for shoot- 
ing rooks and other email frame. It is now almost 
obsolete, but I use it stilt I should be glad to 
know if any writer on the subject of archery gives 
any information regarding ita nature and use. 
Hansard, in his book of ArcHrnf, gives a verr 
incorrect and perfimctory account of it. lie evi- 
dently know nothing of Ihe vrenpon. 

H. T. Jacksox. 

Telgnmoiith, Devon. 

[In Mevrick's Aniient Armuur. and iit Seott's IJrilish 
Army, Ha Orighi, ^-c. will Iks found o complete history of 
the cropfbovf ; but as to its use, we must refer Mit. Japk- 
MiX lo a small work Ui two voluntca entitled Country 
Omttittfaentt, hy Gf^n'flse Mnrltbam, .tnd published in 
1615. In chnpfer viii. the mlw for pliootin? with tho 
lonyljQuv arc given, and tlii'*e mnv Iw tfUp'JMed (o be 

applicable to the croMboir, [numuch as a litilc later 
author 5t.-ttes Ihat the latl<:r arm may be uwJ 1«1 
infinnitiea hare t.ikeo from a num Itie ufru of the fonui 

It II worth -whilfl to draw the attention of miAti 
writers to Country Contenta%ent%^ fi.^ it ntay indent Ue 
lo lie a very moilel of concHrtic5S. Here is a smell <(ii«r 
in two boolE5. containing in all 2117 pages, in which tli^ 
following' snhjects ore fully treated nndfr their pr 
lieadinfc?: — TTunling (liounU.t, kenr.cLf. cry, bIb^s hat 
&c)', tbo breeding of honcj; hanking; eoDr»iQg; shoe 
IngwiLh the long and cross bow ; IwwKng; tcnni*; oi 
last, lliotipU not least, tha " llHS-wifc." Thli laat f ol 
Ject WAS evidently, in the outhor^a mind, of prim 
importance, as to it be appnipriatea no luu than li 
pa;^. Will any one deny wUat h etate*l on tU 
page, namely, llial U is "a worko very pruGlal 
nMeBwrle, gathered for the gencrall guud ot 

t.ori3 PmLiprK. — Did not Louis riiiUiil 
teacU lanpfup.ges professitmally in England loaj 
before he becime King of Franco? Jt: 

[When the Uuke da Chartren (LoaU rhUippe) wat 
hooMlcas wanderer in Switzerland, an offer waa 
bim of a prafe-=Aorabip in ibe college of K^'icbenaut 
propoAid brin;; agreeable to the prince, then tuenty 
years of age, ho was examined with all that atriu-t se^ 
enjoinud by the importancu of tbu duties wtueb he «l 
deiurous tu discbargi?. He was unanimously adral 
OS a great ac(|ui»iliiin to the college, entering on 
under the name of Cbatxit, in tbe month of Octot 
at a salary of 1,400 franc* per aunum. For fiflMU iM 
monibs did thu prineo continue to discharge all lb« dntil 
of tbis Eceondar}- pn5ition, with tbe most ecrupt 
re;:ulority. He taught mathematics, geography, bi 
and the French and EiigH:*b hmgnagcs. lie did 
xpare any pnins or toils wliicb bis comlition at tbe 
impCHd upon hinh llii life and mAnnera ware 
nOected and simple, that nev«r did tlie least 
arise in tbe min<l of uny one .oa to his true ranlu 
51. Itoutmy's Penomtl /Ustorg of LonU Philippe, «(l, 
p. 103, and A. E. Douglas's Life and 7Vmm mf 
PhiVppt, ci. 1W8. p. GC] 

Prfbenpabiks op Westmdsster : Rev. J* 
AN'aELBit, LL.D. — Is there a publieihed oi 
list of them from the eariiest times ? Tl 
John Wheler, LI..D., was a prebendarv' of 
minster in 1800; and any, hoi 
slight, re^rarding his career both b(* fore and 
he obtained priest':* orders, would be very ^ 
fully receiveu, as l)eing require»l f(jr a bi( 
notice of him, which, with similnr nolicesi 
clergymoD, is intended for publication evci 

8, Gloucester Creseeul, Hyde Pajk, 
[Kiebnrd Widmore, in bis Jfttloiy nf the €%ttn 
Peter, irrftmtmter (I.«nd. l7ol.^l•l, p. Mflb h* 
the " namci of the prcbcndnriw of VVeitmlustcr 




Mkt b/ King UmryVin. to tbe preMnt 
Tiia list 11 continned to the year 1800 in 
tinium RrJivhvm^ i. 2C3, Tlie Ker. John 
amarried at Brighton, on Feb. 14. ISli^. 
I HD of Sir U'illiaiu Whcler, by I*eDelope, 
Stephen Glyniie. Ilia brottier, the Rev. 
eler, preljpndary of Vorit, succceJ^d to the 
99. See Burke's Pmnge and B'^nmettvjf^ 

IB. — Why is the seat of the Duke of 
nte About & mile from tbe town of 
lUed ** Troy House"? Is lliere any 
or ereen in the neiglihourhood eo 
AS It auv connection with the old 
of trox/f the vesti^s of which are bo 
» fe*r, becoming more bo almost 
As\K Sjlvesxeb. 
Btaitds about a mile to the eaat of Mun- 
snult riverTrolhy, from which it derives 
tlhjr, eorrupleil into Troy House. It was 
ones; th« front view of it w enffravcd in 
t^ilittoiy of MoHmouOit/iiret od. 1790, 

of CaUimachus. Anthoiopa Orttca^ tiL 

1 Q." 4"' S. iv. a23.] 

j^ ihecp look ap, and are not fed.*' 

ilillon'f Lycidat^ Uoe 126.] 

Author of the hymn commencing ; — 
I let as join uar fiicniU above " ? 
\y Charles Wealuy, is found in an aoonym- 
iiaing forty-three hyniiu, and entitled 
Load. 1759,] 

Gso&OK Llotd. 

(4»* a iv. 435.) 

tT8o:T*8 short query necearitatAS % 
Louis Xitl. left two Bona, Louia 
Uippe Duke of Orleans. PVom the 
le nreeent hoii£e of Orleans, which 
I divide into tbe branchca of Char- 
and MontpeD«ier, if not more, 
married, at St. Jenn du Lnz, June 9, 
Teresa, daughter and uventtmlly 
Ipe IV. King of Spain ; tht^y hud, 
dren (all of whom died in infancy 
uanl, a aon, Louis Tousnaint, sur- 
id DauTihin, who ranrried at Ch»- 
lliSO, Aforie Anna Chriatianc Vic- 
a; issue, three sons — Loiii^t, IMii- 
trlefl. All the children of Charles, 
4M 9.p* 

Louis, somamed Le Pedt Dauphin, married at 
Fontaineblofiu, Dec. 7, 1697, Maria Adelaido, 
daughter of Vittorio Amadco II. King of Sar- 
dinia, by Anne Marie of Orleans, daughter of 
Philippe Duke of Orleans, aliove-mentioned. The 
sou of these cousins wiia Louis XV., whose 
existing descendauts are — I. Henri V., Duke of 
Bordeaux and Count of Chamhord, born at Paris 
Sept. 29, 1820, and married Nov. 7, 184(3, Mnria 
Teresa Beatrice Gaetana, daughter of Fiancisco 
IV. Duke of Modena, a descendant in the female 
line of his anceslr»i88 Anne Marie of Orleans. 2, 
The children of his sister Louise, Duchess of 
Parma, who died l''eh. 1, 18(j4. These are — 
Murgheritn, born Jan. 1, l>:47j Kobertn^ Duke of 
Parma, Iwtrn July 9, 1848; AlLta, bom Dec. 27, 
1849 J and lOniico, Count of D.irdi, born Feb, 12, 
1861. Mar}{heritn of Parma married Carlos, In- 
fante of Spain, at Frohsdorf, Ftb. ISO". 

We now return to Philippe, second son of the 
Grand Dauphin, who in ri^ht of hi^ grandmother 
Mana Teresa became Felipe V. of Spain on the 
extinction of the elder branch in the person of 
Carlos II. Felipe V. married, I. Mana Aloisa 
Oabriela, sister of the Dauphinoas Maria Adeloida, 
Sept. 1701. 2. Elisabetto, Sovereign Duchess of 
Parma. The line of the lirst wife became extinct; 
the eldest son of tbe second wife succeeded as 
Carlos III. and married, 1. Philippine Elizabeth, 
daughter of Philippe Duke of Orleans (eon of the 
Philippe mentioned abovej, divorced 1725 ; 2. 
Barbara or Modalena, daughter of Jonm V. of 
Portugal ; S. Marie Amalie, daughter of Friedrich 
August II. of Saxony, By the last wife he had 
(with other issue") two eons — Carlos IV. of Spain 
and Ferdinmido I. of Naples. 

The Spanish Bourbons are deacendanU of Carlos 
IV., who left four sons — Fernando \'II., Carlos 
Count of Molina, D. Pedro, and D. Francisco. 
Fernando \TI. left two daughters — Isabel II. of 
Spain, and Luisa Duchess of Montpensier. Carlos 
Count of Molina left three sons — Carlos Count of 
Montemolin, I). Juan, and D. Fernando. Of these, 
D. Juan has two sons — D. Carlos nnd D. Alfonso. 
D, Pedro left one son — D. Sebastian. D. Fran- 
cisco left — D. Enrique Duke of Scvilla, D. Fran- 
cisco King of Spain (huttband of Unbel IL), D. 
Fernando, D. Isabel Countesd Gurowsky, D. Countess Trastamare, D. Josefa SeiioraGuell 
y Kente, D. Cristina wife of D. Sebastian (see 
above), and D. Amalia wife of Luitpold of Ba- 

Tiie Neapolitan Bourbons are descended from 
Fordinando \., who'se children were — 1. Francfsco 
I. of Nnplea, mar. (I.), Mario C'lt-mcutine of Ger- 
many, (2) Maria laabL'l, daughter of Carlos IV. of 
Spain : 2. Carlo Tito, and y. ^Vlberto, died *./?.; 
4, Leopoldo, Prince of Salerno, marriecl hia cousin 
Clementine of Atiiitria, nnd had iscttie Maria Caro- 
lina Duchesa d'Aumale; 5. Christiiiaj mar. Carlo 


t<*9.V. J*».«,"Tft^ 

Felice, K. of Sftrdiuiii, tf.D. : 0. Marin Antonia, 
mar. her cousin Feruando Vlf. of Spain, ti.p.; 7. 
Marin Anialis, mar. LouIh Philippe of (.)rl«'&Jis 
K. of ihe French ; 8. Maria Teresa, mar. Fmnz 11. 
Emperor of Germany, her cousiu ; 9. Aiuolia, 
BUU". Ferdinando II. Duke of Tuscany, sp. 

Francesco I. had issue, 1. 1. Carolina Durbees 
of Berri ; II. 2. Ferdinnndo I[. '• Bomba," and 
lire sons and mx daui^htera more, of vhnm tUoae 
married to Hourbons are, Maria Crielina, mar. 
Fernando VII. of Spain ; Carlottn, mar. I). Fran- 
cisco bia brother ; Maria Carolina, uiar. Carlos 
Cuunt de Monteuioliu. For the numeroua de- 
Bcendauts of I-'erdiiiaudo 11. and hia brotbera 
Luigi and Francesco, 1 iuusl refer your corn— 
spondent to the Ahnanach de OothOj or I shall 
be exceediiii; all ren^nable limits. I will simply 
indicate one of tbetii who hns married a Bourbon : 
Oaetano Count iiirpenti, son of Ferdinando II., 
mar. D. Isabel Infanta of Spain, eldeat child of 
Isabel II. HBRTirEXTitrDE. 

(l^^S, iv. 30*2.) 

In your numb«r of October 30 R. asks 
A question relative to the death of J. Sy^t Bris- 
tnw, of Eusniere Hill, Hnnts, who is fiaid ti^ be 
the autlior of five vcluuies of poema publi,shed in 

I hnre been looking, with probably more curi- 
Oeity than I!. Ik<;lis biuit-cU' hits looked, for on 
aoawer lo Lbat query; inatuiuch wt, ulthoufffa I 
llave never had (with the exception of my father) 
any relatioa of mv own name, have never had any 
connection ivith Ensmere UiU, or with liampahiref 
and still (thank God I ) survive, niy name (except 
in one trivial point) appears to be identical with 
that about which the inquiry irt made, and more- 
OYer I acUmlly did. in the year 18.50, publiab a 
volume q( JuvKniic Poema. 

I do not preeume to believe that mv letter will 
throw any light upin the subject whfch interests 
K. Inqus; but if it do not. it is at least a very 
KDtarkable coincidence that there should bavu 
been two perwns of the name of J. Sycr Bri^ 
tow (or 'Oice), not related to one anoLbor, not 
Oftmed the one after the other, and quite unknown 
to one another, and who have also both been 
guilty (I beg my namesake's pardon) of the indis- 
cretion or vanity of puhliflhiug, and publishing 
about the satne time, rhymes which they have 
-ventured to dij^nify by the* nam© of poetry/ 

The coincidence wnulj not be so vorv remark- 
able if Syer and Briftowe were both' of thorn 
very common names, or if the two had become 
blended into a compound surname several genera- 
tions back, and been transmitted in that form to 
sevend linc.<4 of de<*cendant^. I knon% however, 
that the name f^vcr was introduced into mv own 

family through my patornaL ^andmofhvri wl 
was a Mies 5>yer, and whose only fturvifinjr di 
scendants are the dedcendauta of my own 
snd mother. I may add that my grand! 
cpelt bis name indilferentW. with or witbt 
{inal p. JoH^c Stkr Bresi 

II. OU Darlington Street. 

Mr. Inolis is mi.Htnken in attributioj 
volumes of poems to the pen of this g^mi 
they are the production of Johu Charles " 
nnd are comprised in six volumes, havini^^ 
published by Hodgson of Wimpolr> Sm-pt 
iweon the years 1848-63. The writer dates 
preface 184S, and from Fusiuere HiU. Jol 
Syer BrlMone did uublicih a volume of 
(George R-U) in 1850, and thij» ^^enilfmnu is 
umiuenl physician at St. Thomas's UosuitaL 


(4*^ 8. iv. 3H9, U4.) 

Being iudybted to the fraternal ft. 
Mn. John Yaukek, Jrx. for a cnpy < 

nbh* ^'oiis on thr Temple mut Jluspitnl of Mt. Ji> 
I f«It dej^irous of satL-fvin^ my^-lf and eoi 
brother Masonic students, with wliom 1 excl 
notes, OS to the rclntive dep<!ndence that 
placed on the assertion that (jueen i^lizal 
Sir Thomas Sarkville tu York in 15GI lo> 
up the General Asaembly of Freema»>Qa 
Having for year? sought At an historic 
roboration of the statemeut, turu«'d ov'T faetfli 
annals, chronicles, &c. but always with a oe) 
result, what was more natural than lo 
inciuiry to " N. & Q."? Through iU pa( 
pand:? nave had doubts set at rest and 
infunnatiou allorded them, and, in nay 
way, whenever I was in p^is?.!*ynon of coi 
f >riiiation u.^eful to oth^ni, 1 have alwavH mudej 
point of communicating it through thi^ tiui 
uiscd journal of inltircommuniciition. 
case I hoped sumo one better reu'l fl""« 
thy documentary lore of the l 
might be willing to contitii] or i 
if such an occurrem-e bad bo'-it 
writer of Elizabeth's day. Si- 

rHLLALRXnKS I took the 

tbfit I was prut ty well ac- 

tho Mfl^iinic authors, wit. 

one to the other, and xltuit 
I metitnry proof, if such wa:: 
I Now, bow haa my poor ■; ' i** 

bos met with a somewhat lu tb* 

soription of u strange ph; i a km 

apothecary. The man of i tti^ 

I of tliG inj^redients speciti' I'O 

j own rcspousibilily, for some rr-pur i i mi iit* fc' 

stuck as an equivalent. Th« uqiiivohakft n 

*• S. V. Jak. 39. 70.] 



tttUd may, or moy not, h&vo the properties in- 
Uti'IhiI. lilt no one detects ifthoy huvenot. This 
i* i.-ie wilh my query ; I nsUed for one 

th: _ live had half a hundred ditl'erent mat- 

ters wiFfi^d iu rtfply — not on© of them an Duthn- 
rfty. This subttitutioQ of one thing for imother 
oumot b«* iLo dan^HroiiA, in n^y cfUrv, as in the drug- 
l*B pTMtire, but it is equally unsfttiHCactory. 
!«• has bpen uppropriatcd to all sorts of col- 
li •p'-'ulation-', all of which have betn ppe- 
l over and over again; but not n 
' what is required has, as yet, come 
I am now obliged to ask a further 
I in order to repel an altark upon the 
I am connected, that could not 
'Ud fmiM luy ouery. 
i friend, MR.*Wn.UAiC PlJffKER- 
•■ n and deservedly valued con- 
- .V Q/*, ha*i, like myself, a craze. 
lUiti-Mrt'^nnic : mine is Nfasonic, Hi« 
\3piniona f^n ''■ 'vnd exoterically ; my experience 
comes He has ha^l a pretty good 

fling at ^ ^. mry — roused, donbtlcsa, by my 
itt^ttiry — and 1 now fed bound in honour to reply 
to«am0 portions of the invecliTO I have unwit- 
tn$\y piovuked, upon a society of which I nm a 
traaDtl^, though attached, member, by casting oH' 
fll<J mantle of a nom tie plume and eoliciting some 
|inl«? mnj^r uf " N. & t^" to defend that which 
', and then leave its readers to jud^e 
'i whether there is nut something (o 
• other side. 

^RTo5 having commenced (at page 

Sply ahnut a Oormaj^on medfti, has rushed 

the fmy and dm^r^ed Freemasunry into 

klible. S'ow, had he re»ul my article on 

l(r» of the Criift '■ (FiTetna»ott» Mut/aziiie, 

''•^-881 ■), he would have found in the 

'S the whole Gormagon quiMiinn im- 

■' '-^tracts given iu full, and the 

mialion indicated, and might 

11" a vast amount of trouble, for 

- is qwotrd there, and Unparth's 

.vbIo«* all in full, from Hleevens'a 

Hut as be did not consult the *'»Song8 

Cratt,'* I may a^nclude, so close are some 

larks to mine of twelve years past, that 

?nt hr !i)i3 nnly gone over a portion of 

"T ' • gleaned. 

10 depreciate Freemasonry, 

ly ti^iic.i — 

'\*'-f flu ft'.. nil \v. 

t»iO 1 

mny rofer lu the 
der" (fit Gurnitt- 
11' yeara previnnii 
ice nn'J A'lceptcd 
<ii(t hcM at the 
Coveut (jAnlcu. 

S MOMt pcr«4iuj rcadiiip ibis would suppose 
Wmhimihiij was founded as an order in 

1717, but that is Mr, Pinkbrton's methodpof 
making our society appear the junior. The fact 
is that in 1717 four lod^^es met aud resolved to 
form tbeniMflves into a Grand Lodge, or govern- 
ing body for the craft, aud these four lodges did 
so, and — as they a'^^ertod — revived an ancient 
organisation which by Up-»e of tinte had fallea 
into disuse. That this boily was but a revival 
for executive pui-po'^'s, and re-Ohtjiblished as a 
point from which regulations, laws, and orders 
should be promulgott^'d for the better nuiaagemeiit 
of the craft, few will be found having the hardi- 
hood to deny ; and thus it came about in 1717, 
that a Grand Iy:)dge was formed to control ex- 
isting lodges, and does not, by any means, show- 
but on the contrary actually bears \\'iuies8 that 
separate lodges were in existence prior to this 
amalgamation — that "the vrtier of Free and 
Accepted Masons only dates from a meeting,'' ^o. 
"in 1717." 

IIow long Freemasonry had been practised in 
England before 1717 opinions are contiictjng, but 
for my own part I can produce unmistakable 
proof — to those duly qualined to receive it — that 
the father of English poetry, Gower, and hifl 
pupil Chaucer, were both iCnight Tetnplar Free- 
masons. However, for my present purpose, I will 
cite a passage which will set the assigned date of 
the origin of Freemasoury, according to M&. 
PlNKERTON, wholly aside. 'Elias Ashniole, in Ilia 
Ditrrt/ (p. 13), states: "I was made a I^Vee- 
mason at Warrington, Ijaucaahiro, with Colonel 
Heury Manwarinjr, by Mr. Richard Penket, the 
Warden and the Fellow Crafts, on 16 Oct 1640." 
Thus we see that Mr.Pinkerto»'8 date of 1717 
is correct as to the formation of the Grand Lodge 
of England, but totally incorrect and deceplivo us 
to the time when the '' order '* originated. 

Another of Mr. Pinikrtoh's erroneous aswr- 
tions is that '* Hogarth, as a plain honest Eog- 
lishman, hated, and lost no opportunity in exp^iaing, 
the false prett-nsiona of Freemasons." This state- 
ment is an entire assumpiion, and is, pure and 
simple, neither more nnr less than Me. Pinkbk- 
TOK a " honest hatred *' of Ffeemaf*onry fathered 
on Hogarth. Turning to actual facts, How stands 
the matter? At the grand feast held on April 
17, 1735, *' William Hogarth, painter "—there ia 
no mistake about his identity^was the " twelfth 
Grand Steward of the year." At that meeting, 
"Sir Robert Lumlev, Maater of the Steward'* 
Lodge, with his Wanleus imd nine more.wiM ihfir 
new bndtfM^ appeared full twelve the first lime." 
I have itaUciaed the words " with their neir 
badges" because they are connected with " Wil- 
liam Hognrtb, painter." That " plain honest Eng- 
lishman," iustead of hating Freemasonry, so loved 
it that he designt'd a jewel, presenting an admir- 
able eymbolie combimition, to bo worn by mem- 
ben of hia lodge as a ««t-off to '"^thi^ &e«r 



[4*S.V. JAS.itt.Tli 

bridges," aud tho eame pattern jewel is nt this 
very hour worn by the roembera of tlie Ornnfl 
Steward's Ijodge, in deep veneration of the freoius 
and memory of Brother "William Hogarth^ 

At p. 464, in a reply professedly mnde to mv 
query about "Queen Klknbelh and Freemasonry/' 
Mr. I'lNXERTOW commences with the half-apolo- 
jretic phrase, " I have Bftid that the Societv of 
Free and Accepted Masona was founded in 1717." 
This I presume was necessary, oa I well reniuinber 
a former article in *' N, & Q.," but cannot indicate 
the reference at tbia moment, in which Mr, Tix- 
KERTON made out that yreemasonrv was oiiginnted 
in Irel'ind about the middle of iLe last century 
by some Dublin hnndicraftftman. Now, however, 
he baa "said" it waa ''founded in 1717/' find 
then goes on to give the moat inexact and con- 
fused account of the guild, the company, and 
the Free and Accepted Masons I have ever seen. 
Ilia knowledge of the ftchism and ita healing by 
the Lodge of Reconciliation, in 1813, between the 
two factions of ** ancient " nod '' modem " Free- 
masons is M> perfunctory, and is of ao little intyrett 
to the reader of "N. & Q.," that it h not worth 
while to attempt to set his statements right, par- 
ticularly as every one who wishes to know the 
facts can find the official papers reprinted in almost 
everr historj' of the order. 

The next good thing to a fact, adduoad and 
verified, is to treat it numorouriy, and between 
1717 and 1740, the joumala of the lime teem 
with humorous facts in allusion to Freemasonry. 
Mr. PiNKERToy's extract from the iJoi'/y Journal 
of Dec. 24, 1725, is the reproduction of a very old 
acquiuutance of mine, and from which I draw cer- 
taiu conclusioDB which may rather »tArtle or amuse 
Mr. I'lNKBRTOx. lie is so thoroughgoing a mnn 
and friend thiit, thftugli I am in duty bound to 
oppose his snti-Masonic craze, I urn quite willing 
to enjoy with bim any humorous matter he may 
brinff forward, and. if ho sees any fun in it, to 
provide further for his enjoyment. To this end I 
auotcd specially the extract from ^VHlimole'a 
xJwry. J could have given dozens of other proofs 
as to date, but this was so ttpropos to the bur- 
lesque advertisement which Mr. I'inkerton hM 
inserted that nothing else would have served my 
purpose half k) well. There can be no doubt of 
the "whimsical kinsman of the Hod and Trowel '' 
being an allunion to Freemasons any more than 
their "hnving (on new light received from 
acme worthy Rosicmcians) *" is a special hit in- 
tended for Dr. Kawlinson, a most active Free- 
maaon, as I have copies of his own papers to provoj 
but the covert satire tells us something more. 
Elias Ashmole wns about the last man in England 
at that time who publiuly clnimed to be a Hosicni- 
cian. In his day that society culniiaated in popu- 
lar disfavour, and when it had nearly died out, 

the profane world, or out«ider!9, began tobsutfj 
another mysterious community — the Fr««iaiMBlL| 
From the middle of the seventeenth toabofot' 
same period of the eighteenth centurr, Pi 
masonry wns looked upon an inheriting some W^\ 
terious secrets of hidden science, and 1 bold— J 
can demonstrate fVom incontrovertible writii 
that Eliao Ashmolo was one of the primary 
hers whose nppearnnce in the craft gave fomw 
to the popular belief. Leaving tiiis to tell its* 
tale for Mr. FniKERTON*s informaticui or anc 
meat, in whichever form he pleases, I 
proceed to address myself aeriously to aa 
lion which my valued friend, I am aure, 
sorry be made, as it may give pain and 
many brethren of the present timp, wbo, I 
doubt. Mu. Pibkertox must believe to be b< 
gentlemen and worthy members of aociet^r. 
Mr. Pi>'ickrton states that — 

" the Accepted were very unfortunate in the sdt 
tlioir supfnor ofKctra, but tlie truth mn.*l iu all 
told. It is generally »il(1 tlint Laurence Kftrl of 
vrho waft lungoit at Tyburn For murder. tvs!< ooioTi 
(irard Masters, Lnt be rrallr was not. It wax biiT 
Wttsliirjrtan, wlio wan rhown Grand MmAti*r immi 
nl^er (bu execution: and FiiiJcI observtfK, in lit* iTia 
of /'rr^maxmry. * that under hla auspices the lodflil 
some of ilfl credit.* Their first (innd Chapliin tui Ill.{ 
l>Ofld (thn Macaroni parAoo, u he hu \>*^i\ or11«1). 
made Uis exit at Tyburn far tlie crime of for^rr." 

Now bad it been the truth, wbich M». Pi 
TON asserta " must in all cases be told," wnoU Hj 
not be better to tell that truth without » Ua■^l 
Why, after a century, should the exc 
brother of a Grand Aiastcr be flung in 
Then, again, it is not very creditable to inaae ikv 
Masonic culprits who were executed, wbn ' 
reality it was but one, by the inr"— •*^~-i 
" too^' and nn '* also " : their " first ' ^ 

too, Dr. Dodd . . . nbo made bis e-v ., »*.- 
any slignia rest upon the House of Pe«ra 
count of the execution of Earl Ferrers, 
reproach attach itself to the Church of 
because of the fate of Dr. Dodd ? If aof. 
should Mr. Pinkkuton seek to don. 
masonry iu the eyes of the readers of " 
and the world nt Inrge by parading the h 
nue brother was hanged)' The *' truth 
blamed, but it can't he shamed,'' is a 
Whether Mr. Pinkertoi^'s truth is to be' 
or sbamedj is not for me to decide. 

Mv next romoustrance with Mb. l^nmntToaii' 
the inutility of his reply to my origi' 
lie does not afl'ord me a word of that • 
am in search, but tells me matters every «i*ii-r 
Freemason has at bis fingers' ends. Mit ~ 
TON, in three papers, adds nothing to my _ 
ledge : all he says correctly I knew before. *■. 
much of his inaccuracy I wish I hn! " 

Bearing in mind Mr. Pinkert 
count of the Irish origin of Frec-L»» 

SLY. Jaw. 2a. TO.] 




■irOinf^ to find Ibat '* tbe Billy legend 
Accepted Mafinnrr is founded wfts 
1 nt the Applrt Tro« TftT^rn, ftnd tliat 
Dr. UeMffuUers " vtns riTtAinly th(>r(^ " At tlio tiino. 
iVihapys EUoa Achmole wfw nmde a Frpfinin-vin, 
Willi nis liret triie'a brother* without the **mlly 

Thw J#ocK*,' iimnuscript, which Mu. PiNKEJiTON 
•ftjs *'C«rri<'8 its own candeinnation on the fiice 
of jt," ia ** no other tbftu n Miwonic frnud. Therti 
D«T« WAS guch a miuiuacript." And thnt Mr. 
Halliwell '• proved from tho catnloguo that it 
never had been thtire,'^ I have no biiMnefia to 
defend ; yot when I was joung in Freemasonry 
I too soutrbt, and not finding, ctime to Mk. Pin- 
KSRTus*» cemclusion. Since then, T not only be- 
liere it wna in the Bodleinu, but quesiion its 
being a fraud, Masonic or otherwise. Some day I 
will utake my reasons public. 

With a 8htsbia*jf declaration — " Notwithstand- 
ing my natuxiil aversion to such vile decoplion^i, I 
certainly will continue to expose them" — Mb, 
PwiERTOX ci-includes lus reply to my query, with- 
out one aoUtary gmin of the information I in- 
qaired for. Of coiiwo, Mr, Pinkerton is quite 
wekoTOO to expose Freemasonry ns much as he 
nay thinlv lit; but I do most heartily beg to 
xsauBd him Fri-ema»onrr hiu been exposed, re- 
TOiled, excommuaicated, banished from kingdoms, 
imsiy and empires, so frequently, yet has always 
ntppearsd with greater suceeek; and tlie task 
l^aX the papacy has failed in, and •' the boom- 
•btU'^ ibal Lnrlyle "cast into it" from the pag-ea 
rf the London Mayazine^ have neither " driven it 
a€tb* face of the earth" nor"exploded it"; and, 
grtally a* I value the powers of my friend, I have 
% aort of pref*^ntiment that its aimihilation will 
lot descend to posterity as the work of ita hearty 
fee. Mb. PrxKciiToN. 
Before dealing with the last of the papers of 
' ; rid, I must, in justice to three other gen- 
^ho have sent hints, offer a passing remark 

I 1 eurmit-e correctly, whose name 

reprttent, well knows mv published 

H utter woi'thlesaneas of ^'indel's un- 

le: and so, altiiough much obliged 

• trouble in fumisliin^r me with what 

' : .i.;r. he will be sure its authority, even 

« tiir 41 it pr'X'3, wh<ii cited ia no autJiority at all, 

imri win not oven sutlico for an equivalent of the 

'iiwt innor.*>nt nature. Miu .Tons' Varker, Jux., 

^ r.'-^Ai \: fiTB some few ftuihoriiiea in common 

nnd I am quite euro had he known 

in bis everyday patronymic, he 

^uld lis.t ha-, o rrferred mo to Godfrey lii^'gins. 

AS kH wn- Kind enough to n-ply, 1 nmt^t say 

'..which I printed »oiuo years 

to A dctinite reply than any 

I'-j 51K. Jrn^rnES JiC£soN I beg to tender 


the thanks of an earnest FVeeniason for the expres- 
siion of his "regret" that Mil Plvkeutox should 
have applied the te-rm '* silly " to Freemaaons or 
fVeomaaonr}', and I am vain enough to hope tho 
n>marks made in this paper uiny tend to strengthen 
that '• regret" 

Trembliu;? with dire forebodings on Dec. 18, 
\m\\ I nervouj^ly cut tho pages of " X. & Q."— 
which the publisher bo pertinsicioufly persists in 
folding most execrably, notwithstanding my nu- 
merous complaints — and found Mb. Pisxekton 
had changed bis theme from Queen Elizabeth to 
"The Stuarte and Freemasonry '' (p. 530). Tho 
signing of a warrant for a lodge at Derby by 
Prince Charles Edward was, in my opinion, a 
very probable fact. Not having seen the docu- 
ment, I cannot take upon myself whether it was 
BO signed or not; yet I presume Mk. Sleigh has 
good grounds for his assertion, and it does seem 
very unlikely thnt any gentleman would attempt 
to tamper with the readers of ** N. & Q." in sub- 
uiittiug an untrue statement to their notice. For 
these reasons 1 believe the warrant to be genuine. 
But beyond tbia there are other reaAonff which 
bear most strongly on ita likelihood. One of the 
theories on the origin of Freemasonry is that it 
was instituted by Oliver Cromwell and copied by 
the adherents of the Stuarta, who represented the 
*' silly " legend as applicable to that royal and 
blessed msrtvr for the Church of England, King 
Charles I. f need not say I do not coincide with 
this theory one whit more cordially than I do in 
Mr. Plskebton's 1717 date.. But 1 do alUch a 
minor importance to it, because it shows how anx- 
ious political partisans were to win Freemasonry, 
wbjcn was in those days, not like our present de- 
generate times when tlie craft exercises no influ- 
ence in tho atVairs of state, a mighty power in the 
land. From the acceasion of the Louse of Han- 
over, Freemasonry had olwava been ita warm sup- 
porter, and I can very well understand the m- 
viters of Prince Charles Edward counselling him 
to assume, by the divine right ho claimed, the 
Grand Mastership of an order which would have 
brought true nnd trusty adherents around hira. 
Therefore, as an act of policy, I think the pro- 
babilitv of bis having issued such a warrant i» 
rather increased than diminished, seeing be was 
at the head of a hostile force in a country where 
his lirst business, if he desired succeaa, was to 
attach as many as possible to his person and cause. 
That Prince Charles Edwnnl was made Grand 
Master of the order of the Temple, at llolyrood, 
in 1745, is an undoubted fact, testifi«d in a work- 
not written by a Freemason, and from which I 
took it when editing the department of " Masonic 
Notes and Queries in Tne Freeviason^a Maffa- 
zinc for the years 1^58 to 1^07 : but unfortunately 
1 cannot pive the reference now, not Imvinff * fi«* 
of that publication at band. 



L4*aV. JAJl.M.'Tfc 

Mr. l^TKVERTOW BAaiitDM too miich when be 
Bup|KiBv8 ibht because Clcmont Xll.'s btiU cx- 
oomroimicated Frt.'Ciii)ieKiD.i. no persons of the Ro- 
misK ftiiih etitured the order afterwAnitt. I will 
give him the imme^ L>f but two such for brevity's 
sake, both wi>U- known uu-a nndduvout adhercmts 
to their church. Mozart, one of the ^rsHtest 
muMcians that evfr lived — a prolific composer of 
muses and mott^tt^, to .«&¥ nothing of thnt incom- 
parablo " rcquifin " whiuo none but a disciple of 
the friith could pen — wa« an ardent Frceinnaon, 
wrote miiMC for his lodjre ceremotjies, some of 
which MfB before me at this moment; and, that 
Mb. PtNEKRTON may have proof of what I state, 
I shall refer him to W. H. Holmes's Li/r^Hotati. 
Daniel O'Connell. M.P., the a^tator — I use the 
term as one of idnniity, that it may not bo s&id 
I mislead — was a Freeraaeou, had been innsber of 
his lodge, and declared h'la severance from the 
craft some yeard before his death on account of an 
•nathpmft proiuulgated against us by a Koman 
Cdthclic biahop. These two instances entirely 
diflpoee of Mr. Potkbrtok's objection that, be- 
0tUM a bull had be** n ivucd against Freeniasi'nry, 
it would be abaurd to suppose any Roman ChIHo- 
lic would be a member. I say nothing of those 
brethren of that communion I pereoDally know 
■mong&t us at this time. 

As to the ChevalitT Kanijmv. Mr. Pinkerton 
la entirely at fault. He and I'^tJnt^lon, Itishop of 
CAmbnty» were both niembera of the same lodge. 
Before ibis, in 1728, he proposed to the Gmnd 
Lodge of Englund a reform in its cerenioniul, and 
SQggeated the sulislitution of a system whirh 
afterwards bfcnme world-renowned as the Rate of 
he Council of i'lennont. In 1740 he delivered a 
discourse in Paris, in which he set forth the true 
and knijfhtly theory of FreemR.«onry ; and, di-eply 
attached aa he was to the Stuarts, he aclually 
composed n degree — in use at the present day nil 
over the world— commemorative of the misfor- 
tunes of that royal line. 

Mu. i'i>K.KRroN'a next assertion is of anch a 
•weeping character that its very vebemenco must 
have proved its antidote to some miud.^. Lest. 
however, it should be said he caunot be answered, 
I will transcribe the passage. He says : — 

"Woll kjiowin^, that (luring the ftpsce «f IfiO vears 
shice MaMiiry bas been MUhllihed, thrre has not'bron 
one mso amuncr^ tl:em who bai» distinguubed bimsoif in 
e&tbv Hcicuce, liUrMlure, ur srt;" — 

I feol bound to say that the statement is not only 
raejadiced hut incorrect. Was Frederick the 
Qient nobody ? See Carlyle's Life. Even he who 
boasted o( " bhalteriniz Freemasoniy *' chronides 
the edmisMion of Frederick to the order. Was 
Robert Burns a poet ? See bis exquisite song to 
the bretbrnn of his lodge, " Adieu, a warm heart, 
fond adieUf" when he imagined hi.i tot was ca«t 
to leave his oatire country. Was Ooelhe un- 

known in literature ? See Mr. Lf'wi-.'* Tift d 
the poet, and hctir hia dviug Mae^ i^ 

" Light, more light." aVus L<jrd i ; oa- 

known in literature P vet ho was madv a 
Was Sir WiUium WeLb Folielt «n unpn 
lawyer? Was Dr.'Howley, Arclr ' «a- 

terbury, twice muster of a Driest 1 Ji*- 

tinguinhed ? 'Was the last Ri»bon <*t b^abuTji 
who bos recently gme to the Onina Lodg* aV^Tt, 
nothing in the church ? Was Mozu]! notbiac ia 
art? Was George Washington in prtliiic^ mtA 
war nowhere P Let Mn. riNKKKToN turn to my 
humblo defence of Wa.Hbington n/^ainst the iaiptt- 
tation of intidelity, in " N. & Q." :S'* 8. viil ST, 
and say, if bo cun, Washington wna no Fr«<-maiaBt 
And aa to the great Duke of Weltiugion, wbMi 
Mr. Piucbbtok tneeriogly eit<'s aa cLtimed by « 
as A brother, he «?an a Freemason. He was inh 
tiated, when Arthur Wellejiley, by the J'^1 rf 
Moira, at Lurgan in Ireland,' the' 1<m1l-- )i^'ru 
numbered at that time No. 491 on the ' 
and on the minute-book is an account ot 
ation, dated and signed by himself. To mski 
out a full list of great, good, and t-minent bratbnOj 
together with authentic details of when an 
where initiated, would be no very ditficuh taik; 
and from my own memoranda I could, if foitber 
names were necvesary to refute Mr. PixsKitTDS'i 
a8fl<*rtion, furiiicth more than enough to till ibrN 
entire uumbera of " N. & Q./' but suffitiriil ba 
been done above to show the fallacy of my d«prt* 
ciating friend's animus. 

I williugly forgiTe certain sly hita at my ««» 
publications, because I nm sure of what I bun 
j iidvamed, and Mr. Pin^erton cannot — aaJ 
would not if he could — see hejips of priiit'wl citb- 
timmtion from tlie tirst introduction of prhithif 
into this country down to the pres<>nt lime. 
For years 1 have bi:en un earnest Ma^idc Un- 
dent ; to my last honr I shall estei-m it • 
great happiness if I cau continue mv t:>U>ii.-iw 1 
know I am only like on insect u '\* 

thieahold of n mighty edifice, but • j . arf 
every hour of such study unfolds nid trucba ktul 
gives eest for fresh inquiries. Like Mk. Pu^npi* 
70S 1 am an enthuftiast, and, next to my religion 
creed, I venerate Freemasonry in all its •^ttf*^ 
degrees, and orders. This has led me t 
at such length upon the columns of " . 
and in ronrlusion, let me add how mucb 1 i.-^fpeCI 
Mr. Pinkerton in all he writes except wbfotti 
special craie creases mv own. 

t Matthiw Co'okk, P.m., PX xxx^.te 

Fbsev ASOXRY. — Having inoonte^vtabty, ■» I 

Ihink. proved thai the ^'tuarts kuewnotlu ^-^ 

Freemasonry, I leave thnir name out ot 
ing to this article, and direct mv pt'^' 
place, to Mr, Clarke. He, whi) 
ing ** the numerous literary and bis: - 

»»»r. Ja».29.70.J 



^ tn thfl ortlinary booka on Fpeemftsonrr," 
;htit it iiiies not neccv-*!rftrily t'olU»w thnt 
•A Fri'emtwons is to be ch^irgt'd with the 
lip of tlipso lies, but ralber to W set 
atl|)ea.** From tlie nbove premim^s M^r. 
Mt them down bs he plcfisca, but 
tern thorn either truthful or .'*a{7urious 
; and il is not very oloor to mc in whnt 
I be Uflca thtf word "ordiniiry." If by that term 
he fpaoib* critically of Fr^euio^'Uii' booki^ I (|uitti 
i^roe with bim ; they certjiiuly are of a very 
"^ " lary nAturt! indeed, NtfverthcUss, four 
k(ion)i of AnJt'rson's Coindfutions hnve the ap- 
ion of the Grand l^odue, and Preston's 
("oiM of Mu»(mry was »aiictionod as a guide 
\» opposin^r pwtv of tliG Lodge of Antiquity, 
whirh he waA ISLuitiir, and Haa since b^eu 
nearly all the Rn^'li.-.h IrMl^^.i-i aa an 
\& .Miuouic eompcruliiini. HuttrhinAon, 
<ypfni of Mumnyt/y liOl. al30 lias tin? sane- 
the ( Lodge, and bis work was UtelT 
iu 184y, with tlie Kinjr IToM-y tho Sixth 
.ud the culumny upon iMr. Locke, by the 
r<...»l>..,- 't. Oliver^ a great luminary among 

T .- \ pr, from Mr. Clarkk respecting- 

■ isonic societies were founded by 

II opposition to the IJanove riant*. 

Odd. X am afraid U'3 is not an orthodox Free- 

, for they have always discluimod any con- 

with politics, ]^reston» Inliis lUujrfrfitiuitfi, 

the charjfe at the lirst degree, thiw 

" lO newly made brother : — 

•II a-<> 10 lie a qiiKa and peaceable Mib- 

■ ijn. and just to your coiintr}- ; 

1-iyalty or rvbt-IIioti, Init imtWiitly 

i liority, aud CMufonn with cheor- 

it of "thR kingilom in which you 

That Iht* Ore^rianawere not Jar obitea U proved 
lh« fiilliiwini: >!S. iaviLattou to dinner by them, 

[low in my p ir.-.'..-,..i| ; — 

■"Tlwi (\itninii.'f»> ni'i-'thlc*-! '■ '" '■' ■ ' ^it 

■dhatitufalfl'.' •.).*i<ay vC <in'_ ir 

<l tvitt .•.Jiii, . t.i f.i) liriitf ■ 11^ 

^■" ■ ". «t tlie JShkii lull, uii VVwltiOBtlay the 

* ' nbrr, 1787. Dinner at throe uV'lock. 

Ifc*»»w «r-.rii an i »t.^pcncc eoch. Winc indudfid." 

31m. STWnKX Jyrrsr.v jwtutely thinks that the 
IWBiMot*, or ' ; .5oh8, will yet be dia- 

jA^Rd bj Dr. 1 : and it was moiit pro- 

a »imiU(- ufHi*^ of thinking that the 
of th*™ Urand Lod^e of Ma^ua in 
in ' ^1 communiciition, that 

of ,1 in China was the 

I for the .sup[>i*^-v8ion of 
t«rnity Ju tli-n C'eleatial 
utfd in '■ Is*. &. Q." 
Chinese Uevolu- 
M>bf_<t»rv. A- ^'Mju as an answer could 


arrive from Hong Kong, it was replied to by tho 
iJ.P.G M. of Briti.'*h Marjory lu China, who 
proved, a** it mi^ht be supposed by any ratiooal 
nun, that tlie Triad society had nothing to do 
with Masonrir*, ns it was "entirely political in 
origin and otl'enmve iu character,'' while Mii-soory 
Wild, of conree, "purely sociable, charitnhle, and 
innocuous. As to the word revolution," continues 
our D.P.G.M.t " it is sufficient to remark that the 
Ma:iionic gy^tum strictly prohibits the disturbiince 
of the pea<L-u aiid cood order of dociety.' 

In Id4i4 the Marquis of Donegal! was at the 
town of Belfast; as be was Provincial Grand 
Master of the district, the Freemasons there gave 
him a grand dinner. After dinner, the Marquis — 
who was, I behnve, in the chair — made a a 
inipugnin;^: the wcU-lmown incapacity 
magistrates for allowing the Ik'Ifast riotd of that 
rear to proceed to such a fatal lougth. Ub waa 
immediately cried down bv a storm of groans and 
hisses from bis brethren aittang round the table : 
and I was subsequently informed thnt the Mo^^ 
quis wa^ severely rebuked by the Grand Mas 
of Ireland for presuming to introduce a subj 
ever so distantly relating to politi<te at a Maao: 
meeting. I am sure that I could easily give 
Cr.AiiKK a hundred such instances of the Fi 
nia^kms' utter disinclination to discuss politicaL 
subjects, whicli, if it did not go the whole (Ua- 
tance, would go far to prove that the Jacobites 
and Freemasons never were connected. 

With respect to Mil Y\bkeii, he condeacenda 
to abuse me : of that I feel proud. I am not 
Roman Catholic ; they are well able to take 
<)f themselTes, and no doubt will wvll cbas 
Ma. YABJieR for the calumny he has dared 
insinuate respecting their preluies. I will leava 
the crux of the Lord Athol {sic) to further puzale 
him : surely, as he knows so mHuy great secre 
he cannot want information on that point ; and. 
will refer to a subjuct that all may comprehend. 

How dare he to .'peali, iit''N. &Q." of auOrd 
of Fropmasons r It is no order. Orders Mili 
are companiea of knights instituted by kinga 
princes. Orders Religious aro tiociuties of monoa^ 
tic8, founit^'d by the Pope. There are even orders 
Religious MiUfary, privileged, by the Pope to 
say nia.«s and prohibited from marriage like the 
Knixbta of the Temple ; but Freemasons are none 
of these. In 1751, when the FreiMunsons peti- 
tioned Parliament for a charter of incorporation, 
it was merely as a S':>ci6ly, but their petition waft 
mo:4t coutemptuou:^ly refused. In the Act of 39' 
George III. entitled ''An Act fur the more effec- 
tual aupproasioD of Societies established for Sedi- 
tious and Treasonable Purposi's, and for better 
preventing Treasonable and Seditious Practices," 
they are merely ti^rmed "certiiiu socieii^s undot 
the name of lodges of Freemascms." A barr 
tells me that tlmt Act has never been repealed 

•enda i 


eava ^^ 




[4* a V. JaS. 29, 70. 




and conacmiontly assemblioa of FreemRSons are 
ille^l to tuia diiy. 

But Mr. Yarkbr sheltors himself undor the 
assumed secrete of Freeniosoory: I say there are 
no secrets whatever belonging to it. The legend 
upon which the degre* of mtwter mnsonry was 
founded, the murder of Iliram ia the Templo of 
Jerusalem, was told by Sam. l*ricliard, id his 
MoiOftry Dissected^ in 17^0. It was aUo pviblished 
in the Dai/t/ Journal of August 16, 17:iO, and 
mftny of tlie precodiujr and foUnwinpr numbers. 
In Toltimo viii. of the Gentleman's Magazine it 
will alsio be found ; and beaide;) the many editions 
of Prichard*3 wcirk siucc publitthed, there hare 
been counileas editions of works Buch &a Jachin 
and Boaz, Three Didinri KnocJiXy Solomon in all 
Af> Ohrtj, all telling the same stupid tide ; while 
in America the works of .VUyn, Bernard, Morgan, 
And others disclose to all tlie world the mum- 
meries of Freemasonry. 

Clftvel in his Hitloire Pittore^fjue dc la Franc^ 
Ma^nnme, published at Paris in lHi3, telln us the 
aame storj*, with this slight diflerence. In the 
English lodges, at the malting of a niaster-niason, 
the three murderers of Hiram — Jiibela, Jubelo, 
and Jubelum — are heard groaning and bmentini; 
that ever they were born. The Froncli, witn 
more taste, do not introduce these ruffians, hut 
instead a Fkkhe TKHiniUiE, who thcv say is 
TyphoD, the wicked brother of Oairis. ^or pub- 
lishing this work the (irand Orient complained 
that Clave] had divulged the ceremonials of th? 
society. CUvel replied that it was a special 
matter of surprise to him, that the society should 
object to the spreading of light everjrwhere, and 
that they should strive to repress freedom of 
thought by interdicting his book; he disavowed 
the competency of the Grand Orient to pass a 
TOte of censure on him, and he justified hia pro- 
eeodings in a public a]>pea1 to all Masons pos- 
aeased of understand in •? and feeling. 

Moreover, there is the great uncontradictable 
fact that in America during the nntt-Masonic 
excitement, whiL-h lasted there from 1820 to 1835, 
aome thousands of Freemasons left the society, 
after publidy disclosing all they knew about it. 
At all the principal cities in the United States 
were held aoti-Masonic conventions, and the 
published report of the proceedings of the conven- 
tion at Philadelphia, held in 1830, is before me 
a.<) I write. Evpry degree, every rule of Free- 
ma.9onry was disclost-d at it to all tlin world. 
They reported on the obligation of Masonic oatlis, 
the pretensions of ilnaonry, the early history of 
Masonry, and the seceding Maaonagave n summury 
of the society, which concluded in the following 
words : — 

** By this nummary of the society, we wi-tli t« re^fue 
oChora fWim the saaitj t Ute into which wo iiieon*iid«mtely 
Wq refufo, bowerer bumble wo may be, to out lu 

d'.coy diirkB to entice the yorni^ men of oin c<Mn)tr< uLtn 
the net of FAoinftsonp)'. Wvcaiuiut con- ::jA 

flutter, iu attemptiug* to escupc from M . kiQ, 

nod wo turn for ever fiom the t«>w-lim trt 

of nlwniinalionB. We !>rcak nway, vre In: , not 

unmindful of hulincM, but irith an upwm : ]•! u 

cyo fixcil on henveii. Wo honrstly receivcil 1 rcvuMuuxtij, 
butue tuvc found it out to be a countcrtV-il. We tubniU 
fo thi< l<><4ii ; we neithrr reiain nor pass it ; bat harinf 
fully detected it, wo check it on tlie face, we stamp it OB 
the wall, and wc noil it to the counter, for cmx oovU 
cheats many. We were deodred by falw pninbi^ 
reiteratcil in rolames, and supported by trmt lutaik 
Our names ari! yet our otrn, onil we herewith erase Lbea 
from the roll of Fre«ma50iiry.'' 

The honc-^t republicans who signed this no- 
mary, glorv in such titles as Prince^^. Elects, Per- 
fects, and Sublimes, and well show that thor»Lwa 
why Masonry hafi such charms for vulgar minds ii 
the extravfigance of its titles. Some years ago, I 
saw at Paris u litst of a French lodge formerly held 
there. Thev styled themselvea the CotmcU of 
Emperors of the I-M'il and Wettt Sf/rere**m I^ri/Kft 
Ft'ecmatioHS ; and almost the very fii^t Dam«S oa 
tlie list Wert) Lacorme, maUrt de dtws^t and Vv^ 
tuilleur dr. hidnt$. 

The seceding Masons went farther; they «e- 
tually, in some States, prevented the Freem'iMom 
fnim walking in procession as was their wont 
And in all the^e towns of tho Uni'^o thcj 
gave* public exhibitions of Frccmosouiy, at tilt 
price of twouty-hve cents, or one shilling. I «w 
one of these performances at lioston in 182S, lod 
I never laughed so much in my life. They h*lii 
a lodge, initiated a follow apprentice, pa-- * ' ' 
to be a fellow craftsman, and raised h^ 
sublime degree of a master mason. TIk n i^" 
curtain fell for about ton minutes, and, on iU 
rising again, a chapter of Royal Arch MasonivU 
displayed. The spectators then saw the destme- 
tion of Jerusalem, the living arch, the descent 
into the cave, and the discovery of the ark of lii« 
covenant. Another time the curtain fell, and 
again rose on an encampment of Knight Teio* 
plars. There we saw the agpirnut In the chambei 
of ivllection, then we saw him aettinc out on hii 
pilgrimage; we saw also the akull of Siaioo 
Magus, the blasphemous parodv on the Hd) 
Sacrament, always peifonued iu Knight Tomplaff' 
encampments, mid at last tho novice wa^ 
a valiant and magnanimous knight. A 
not on eloquent, lecturer fttrthor eiplmueU Uie 
whole process as it proceeded. 

That the mummeries thus practised by tlio 
Royal Arch Chapter and the Knight Templir* 
are the real process used bv P'roema^ns I knoVt 
by a very rare printed trial in my puuuuM^on 
Iwo men, one a shoemaker, named Atiidrpw, ttH 
the other a cartwright, named Ramsay, weirtriw 
for sedition before the Lord Justice Olerk -t tlie 
Ayr Circuit Court, Sept. 17. 1800. T 
charged with foTuiing '* themselves into i> 

** a V. Jas. W, 70.] 



cI' '. styling itself the (iSBembly of 

Kii ." l*'reeina#ou3 of the Grand 

r 1, .1 ic jUaiid were the sole witnea^^ npniusl 

:i i! , uid llit-'v. on their solemn oaths, publicly 

'jj.iclas><d all their muiumenea ia the open eoiu't, 

I both tbo^ of (hi> IZ'iiyal Arch aud the Knight 

f T ■ 7^rirs. And what thase wilneasoa told was 

I ^me as I had aeon in the above desmbod 

Lur . • "J &i IJodton- Of the Royal Arch, they 

■pir> "^hnib ill a i%' with a L'lindle repre- 

P%u;.'. ." Ujrninj Bush of Scripture, and they 

I w«re then told to put otl' their ahoea as they etood 

I nnm holy (rromid ; the piwaword was the sacred 

I T *• I am that I nin." It was proved that 

r.iffht TeinpUra drank out of n bIcuU, that 

they hiid thirteen lighted candles, to represent 

rhiisl and his apcdtloa: one of them, typifying the 

traitor J uilrt3, was blown out, while nnotnor named 

iVt^r btirP'^d dim. I am eick of these blas- 

• nmmorir?, and I must leave thorn tn 

who still practise them ; but tho.5e 

liLs of the Scotch order of the Tem- 

1 by Mu. VAnKER as n&sembling at 

)UM iu 174-5; whyn it ia well known 

icv. of Kuigbt Templar wa« introduced 

. by the feerjjieaut-tmlor of a regiment 

[U militia in 171Mf. 

";sv Mosous in America who still adhered 

"mystic tie " met the change in the public 

1 «j they best could. Their lodges were 

■Imed with visitors who bad Uanied their 

r.r these exhibitions. "If they steal our 

;heT, "we mtwt put on new locks ; " 

I'ly the Cirand Lodj?Q of Now York, 

■ i"j-, iv 1 a test deRTce, with a lecture, a 

. . :i V Mid, and on oath. A secret held 

IIS, now-a-dftys, as 77io Times pays, 

i*^ whole world; 80 the readier will not 

^ su/j^n-j-^l to learn that tho word wns lot, that 

i*. W '.'T-r<ed. But the English rreemflsous 

*he establishment of Freemasom*y in 

d in their slanjr terms *' that the old 

Uuliiur;^.! ^lionld be carefully preserved/* did not 

iwtnt any test ; and I positively knew a young 

^^Sencan who was received aa a Mason, and aa 

*ub ail in a Inilge at Livoroool, his knowledge 

^ TV only being derived from the above de- 

performoncea, be never having submitted 

' '■ r^ounl indignity of having been 

■r lodge. 

■ I'^r 1 really am sorry at hav- 

^paco in this journal with 

: . As Curlyle, the historian, 

1 his Liff. of FiTikriek the 

- np of pbosphoruted hydro- 

'.irk of things. Bog- 

, will o' tho wisp. 

i!i ; mere flame drclt-s 

-I-?, wo know howl" 

ti ai I'rucuiikv^ury ! there is nothing of the 

kind. When Ivosaing the Gf-'nuau philosopher 
was initiated into Mti^onry at Hamburg, the mas- 
ter of the lodge observed, *' Well, do you tind that 
there is anything against Church or State in our 
institution;^" "Would to heaven there were/' 
quoth the philosopher; "Mm tJure would be Jiomc' 
thing in it. 

William Pikkeuton. 

Afl everythini^ that makes ai^'^indt Mr. 
Bcchan's view la represented by him to be a 
fraud and a forgery, and every adverflo fact and 
statement n delusion and a mist&ke, it is impos- 
sible to argue with him ; and as the corrof^pond- 
ence seems to be degenerating into a war ot per- 
sonalities,! send you tho lost remarks that I have 
to make upon the subject. 

As "Adopted or Accepted Masonry" in Eng- 
land was, prior to 1717, a very tiime aaaociation, 
HO we are also asaui-ed by Aubrey that in 1*301, 
their adoption is very fornmll, and with the ad- 
ministration of an (^ath of Secrecy/' ♦ therefore 
wo know but little, except by comparistm, as to 
its nature and object. It is quite certain that 
the English Masona have no documents or minntea 
nf lodges, such as they have in Scotland, to con- 
nect them about this time with the operative 
Guilds of Stonemasons, though Aubrey a,sserted 
their derivation from the latter* ; the absence 
of such documentary evidence being a proof, to 
my mind, that the' association had changed its 
ch'arftcter, which is still further confirmed by the 
following regulations nf A.n. 1(J6;3, tho italics 
being mine. (Harleian MS. 1042, f. 1) : — 

" No. 2ti, Nm person (of what degree soever") bee 
accepted a frre Maitoa unless he« ahalle hare n Iwlge of 
five free MaMon* at least, whereof ont to be« a Master or 
'Warden, of that limitt, or devi^ion, wherein such lodK'e 
dhal bee kLpt, and anofW of I he trade of FrMtnoMnry." — 
*' >'o. 30. Thut fur tho future the sayd Sociely, (^raDany, 
and fraternity of Frcemaftons shall bo rcfsulataa and 
Korerned hx'one Matter and aurmblyt and Wardens, as 
ya said Company shall think fit to cuoae at every ymrwif 

A little later non -operatives were taking: t^o 
most active part in continuing the association, aa 
the following shows. Elias Aabmole, under date 
of March 10, HW2, says :— 

*' Abont & Hot, post mend. I revived a anmmons to 
appear nt a Lodj^o to Ikt held next day at Msfton'a H»U 
iu London." llth. " Accordinplr I went, and about 
noon were admitted into the Fellowfthip of Frucmosous 

hv .Sir \Vbi. Wlh«on, Knight Captain liiohnrd liorlh- 

Wick, Mr. \Vm. Wooilman. Mr. Wm. Grcv. Mr. Samuel 
Toylour, and Mr. Wm. \Vi*e. I was the Senior Fellow 
am'on^ ihem (it being 85 yenm aintm I was ndtnittedK 
there was present buides rnywlf the FeUowaaAer-namea, 

• I take the references to Aubrey from an inrtcpeadent 
Fourcp, but it in qurto sufficient to r*ff*!r innuirera to 
Mr. J. O. Halliwell'* HUtory ami Artittet o/jV««ntry,m 
the notei to whioli tlieau extracU will be found. 



i:4*S.V. JA!<.M,ie. 

Mr. Thomas Wise, Mastfr of the Mav)QS Company this 
present year, Mr. Ttios. Shorthose, Mr. Thomas Sbadbolt 

Waidsfford, Kvi, Mr. Nicholas Youn^, Mr. John 

Sfaorthoee, Mr. Wm. Uamar, Mr. John ThomjMon, and 
Mr. Wm. Stanton. We all dined at the Half Moon 
Tavern in Cheapside, at a Noble dinner prepared at the 
Charge of the New Accepted Masons." 

The certificates and traditions of Masonry allege 
that in 1686 a reriTal, revision, and addition to 
the higher degrees took place. May 18, 1691, 
we are informed by Aubrey, that Sir Christopher 
Wren was adopted a Brother at St Paurs, " and 
Sir Henry Gooderic of the Tower, and divera 

Sir Richard Steele has an article in The TaUer 
upon a class of men called Pretty Fellows, No. 26 
for Thursday, June 9, 1709, in which appears the 
following poast^^ : — 

"Yoa see them accost each other with eifeminsto 
airs ; thty have their »ipna and token» like Freemaaotu ; 
they rail at womankind," &c. 

To this Mr. Matthew Coohe, 30^, adds in the 
Freemason's Magazine — 

■* Sir Richard Steele was a Frcemoaon of the York ritef 
or Ancient Masons. In a li^t of the anciout l-xlge^ in- 
serted in Picurt's Ceremtmiea et Cuttumea reliyietuetfie tnua 
lapeuplesdu mtmde ^7 vols, folio. Amsterdam. 17*23-37), 
Sir Richard Steele's portrait is given at the bead of the 
sheet depicting the names and places of the Ancient 
Masons' iudgingn and meetings." 

One word on a subject upon which Mr. BucgulX 
is indiscreet enough to call upon me for proofs. 
In the British Museum arc preserved the signs of 
the old Euglish Operative Masons. These have 
nothing in common with those now used, or 
which could answer the description of Sir Richard 
Steele, — tlie very words that would be used at Mk. 
BuchakV own reception. Even Mr. Bvchak's 
pet proteges, Anderson and DtisaguHer?, were not 
Operative Masons, and yet admitted prior to 1717. 

Though 1 am unaware what reliance may be 
placed upon the following, which 1 Und (in reply 
to one 01 Mr. Bcchan's tedious weekly ipse dkiit 
assertions) in the pages of the " Freemasou " for 
January 22, 1$70, signed by Horace Swete, M.D., 
yet it is so much in accordance with what 1 
should expect, that I have little doubt as to the 
genuineness of the article. 

**Aa a refutation of this statement I have now on mv 
table a tobacfw>-br>x of evident antique manufacture, and 
engraving, dtded lC7o, on the lid of which in engraved 
the Masonic workin;: tools cf the three deg^ee^ the jewels 
of the Lod^e, and many other Maaonic devices, being 
nearly a copy of the tricinf? boards of the three degrees, 
with other ititfm I, as a Craft Master Miison, cannot read, 
but which a brother who is Mark Matter and Roval Arch 
Hason, eawily understands. This design is certainly not 
that of a merely operative body, but involves the know- 
ledge of muclt deep speculative thought in our Masonic 

After fifteen years' study of the Rosicrucian 

workt* and the various degrees of English Hanmr, 
I state my belief unhesitatingly that the " Adopted 
Masons' existing in 1601 held Roncmcisn 
opinions, and that the "Free and Accepted 
Masons '' of 1717 were a reformed branch of the 
" Adopted Masons," and so far I am in entire accori 
with your learned correspondent Mr. PiKirarnn. 
A very superficial acquamtance with the wortoof 
the Rosicrucians ana Freemasons is suffidoit ts 
show the resemblance. One of two things seem 
clear from the before-mentioned regulatioiM of 
160.) — either the pure operative guild of Masomr 
had then ceased, and attempts were made to brin^ 
the association into hanuony, or it ceased firom thtf 
time by the enactment that for the future only 
one or at most two operatives were necessary iai 
lodge of five members or upwards. Of these two 
views the former seems most probable in the li^ 
sence of documents, or the law would haTe \om 
worded to abolish in place of enforctHg a restrietiai 
astothepresencoofsomanyoperatives. Th^fdkf 
of Scottish MasfjDS seems to be to persoade m 
ignorant that they are the only legal depoaitviet 
of Maaonry in every degree, and last centuiy dH 
sorts of romantic fictions were propAffated; W 
when searchers after truth began to puoliflih tMr 
lodgo minutes, it became evident that whSIrt 
souie lodges included a much larger speculitne 
element thun others, yet that the modem systas 
of 1717 was introduced by English Masons ii 
1721 ; the old lodges being operative benefit i^ 
sociations, without the power of aclf-gove mmirt 
as in England — that, having been surrendered to 
an Hereditanj Grand Ma<«ter. The Engliik 
lodges, it is stated, were used as schoola of acieaee 
during the roign of the Stuarts. 

The mere denials of Mr. Buchan arenot of tkift 
weight to counterbalance the universal teetdaflBJ 
nf English Masonic traditions, supported by m 
writings of James Anderson and otners. He Oft- 
not certainly be considered an infallible antli^ 
rity in an order which has many rites and degiett 
of Vhioh be is not a member, nor, in my opimoii 
is he an authority in the degrees of which ne iift 
member. Although, in common with other UtH 
rary men, 1 am equally liable to make mistate 
vet so far as I am aware, none of mine have jct 
been shown. If Mr. Buchan will point the 
same out to me, I shall be grateful to him, and «■ 
Ais shoxciufj proper grounds for his correctinn, dfr- 
lighted to make the same. By inquiring in tKe 
proper Masonic quarters he will find the Stolit 
evidence of which be is in search. Your leaiotd 
correspondent Mr. Pinkbrtox is evidently nnd 
miHapprehensinn as to the absence abroad of Ltfd 
Atholl in 1746, through my unng the title rf 
Ihike. That nobleman waa rightful heir to fte 
old earldom and recent dukedom of Athol; l>t 
Sir Bernard Burke states in his Perragtj tW 
owing to his active participation in the tKfd^ 

4»S-V. Jak. 89. 70.] 



15 and l'"4/i, bU tiU«« aiul fAinily bunnurs 
0«;ttled hy th« UanoveriiiD Guverniu«:^ut upon 

JoHlf Yarkeh. 

' ^ »TV Df-t Free ftnd Acrrpted MuniH 
ni with Hamlet, "Somfthiri^ too much 
^' •■ iniiin o) Sir Lucm* i.)'Tri(r- 
lli' «;rv prctiy qunrrcl «» it 

t' itiouM citly ^poil it by 
ig it to bi' cuf >ivU loi uiiv (krUier iu tiic»e columui. 
♦* N. A Q."] 


C4»a iu.332; ir. 491, 672.) 

rftf to HERJiENTRirDB's ftppenl, I 9ubjom 
of ench statement in my I'uruier UDte. 
It Ihe tirst wife of iCobert fourth Lord 
rbby wns DMTTied Alice, and that ibe waa 
lef of Williftm the tiflh lord. It was 
1413 on tho Iwf, p. m. of Wmid Countesa 
" (widow of Earl Thomas), that hw n»^xt 
Robert sixth Lord Willoiithby, son and 
Uliiim tifth lord, son and lieir of Alice, 
nf Kliubeth. inotber of the said counteaa. 
14 lien. IV. 17.) 
Thiit the said Alice died aoon after her mar- 
!, and that her aon waa born about 1308. 
iraji found, on tbfi Jnq. p, m. of John third 
Will— i.Kv. that in 1:572 liobert the fourth 
w vpnry-tbree, and was then riiar- 

tiid tf : .. _ 1 Zauche his hecond wife). {Ewh. 
W Etlw. 111. 7s.) Also it was found, on ihe 
i»9.f. m. oi Ju'bert the fourth lord, that in 1306 
bi wn ftnd heir William (who baa been pmvod 
tie ion of Alicv) waa ftged twcnty-oighl. {^Each. 
"^Rich U. 54 ) 

i'bait the said Afftud Conntess of Oxford waa 
fhter of lialph de UlTord by Maud 
of Lnnc'ibtitr, widow-Countess of 
), ME- N <itat*>d by I_iu^jal*». 
tt M« bcfn jirnvHi! flbovc, from her Xnq.p. m., 
' " Jw Qothor wiw nained Elizabeth and not 
ami lliat sbe wns sister to Alice Wil- 
: whereas it ia cortain that Alice Wil- 
waa not the sis I or of Maud PlantR^i^ni't, 
are all well a.scorlain--d. iV'fliilen. 
iteas hiul btfcn the dau;jrbter of Miiud 
'■■— ■*•"* bc'ir ex pnrt^i maternd in 
been the grimdson of her 
'■-. 11,1/1 l..,ve been either 
I, the Unenl de- 

ii;?e. or (if wo 

I King lleuiy IV,, the heir 

'tor. It appt-ars, too, that 

bad a rlAiii>btt*r Maud by the 

^^ - • r, who dit'd unmnrrit*d before 

\*»l4 ) and wita buried at Oamnaev. 

Ay^aU i. 491.) 

tawij MiJBtcr and heir of Otbo Fitz 

Tbontna, was the Mcoud wife of John Lord 
I It is true that Dugdole and Blore {Jli4. of 
I Rulhndf p. 300) do not mentiiin any fnnuwr wife 
I of this baron ; but he wiia a norrw homo with no 
lands of his own, and nothing whutever is known. 
I about bim before bis inarriitge with Maud. She 
wjirt one of the co-heirs of tho bnrony of Bedford, 
and it was in ber right that h© po-^essed all the 
DiAonrs which are enumorated in hia Tnq. p. m, 
(E/tih. 18 Edw. II. 66.) It was found, on hii 
death in 13:24, that his next heir was hie grand* 
son John, the eon of his eldest son Thomas, who 
had died before him ; but it appearf*, from a care* 
fal examination of the EscheaU^ tbat neither Joha 
nor bifi heirs inherited any of the manors of which 
the baron died seised, and tbat the whole c^ 
Mnud'n inheritance descended to the younger 
sons John and Otho, and to their meter Elizabeth 
Latimer, to the utter exclusion of the heirs of 
Thnmas. It ia therefore dilBruIt to resist the 
cnncluaion that Tbomaa, the oldest son of John 
Lord Botetourt, waa his son by a former wife, 
and was not the son of Maud. (Cf. Esth, 
18 Edw. II. 06; Bich. 9 Edw. HL 61; £«•*. 
13 Edw. IIL 39; EkK 10 Edw. 111. 9; Etck. 
a Rich. II. 4.) 

5. Tbat Elizabeth, mother of Lady Oxford, and 
hor sister Alit-e Willoughby, were the daughters 
of Lord Botetourt and Maud. 

This itatement was expreasly tftken from Collect* 
Top. i4 Ont. (v. 156), that ia, fmm Townsnnd's 
corrt'ctjons of Dugdale edited and annotated hj 
Sir Charles Young. I have not the book at hand, 
but give fn^m memory the subtitance of the arga- 
ment : *' Lady Oxforcl ia called the daughter of 
Ralph do Ufford — she could not have been lu« 
daughter by Maud Plontagenet, for the reoaoOA 
1 bare already stated; but Dugdale, in hia ac- 
count of the Earls of Lanca-^ter (i. 783), varie« 
his description of her father, for he eaya that 
the second husband of Maud Plantarenet was 
* Ralph, sou and heir to Ihe Earl of Suffolk.' 
Now Ralph de Ufford was not the son, but the 
brother of the Earl of Suflulk. The earl, how- 
ever, had an eldest son Robert, called Robert de 
Ufford le Fila, who, in 1337, married without 
the king'a license Elizabeth, widow of William 
Lord l^timer; and she was party to a deed, 
quoted by filover and dated in 1-j'JO, nineteen 
years after Ralph de Ufford had died, leaving 
Maud of Lancaster bis widow. It may safely 
therefore be assumed that Ralph was written in 
mistake for lioheH, and that Lady Oxfird wa* 
the daughter of Rohert de Ufford le Fila and 
Elizabeth Latimpr. Now we know that Elizabeth 
Latimer was tht* dnughtw- of John Ix»rd Hot»;toitft 
and Mnnd, for she brought to ber husband all tl» 
Redfordahiro manors of Maud'a inhoritance (cL 
Etch. 18 Edw. IL 56, and Esch. 9 Edw. lU. 51); 




therefore, her sister Alice Willoughby must have 
been another daughter of Lord Botetourt and 

I v/M not spectuUy employed on any of the 
pedigrees it ooncema when I rend this inge- 
nious correction; hut the reasoning seenied to be 
sound, nnd to he strengthened by the fact thnt 
the date of Robert Uiford's marriage, in ^3.17, i» 
just -what one wotdd hare expected Tor the pnrenta 
of I^dy Oxford, who wha hentelf innrried in 1350 
or ju«t before (cf. E^ch. 34 Edw. III. 84). ()n 
reflection, however, 1 see two insuperablo objec- 
tions to this theory : — 1. If Lady Oxford had been 
the daughter of ^lUznbcth Latimer by Itobert de 
Lflbrd, her heir ex parte maiennff in 1413, would 
have been not the ^and^on of her mother' aister, 
but either John ^eTiU Lord Ijatiraer, the lineal 
descendant of her mother's first marriage, or (if 
we exclude the half-bloodj Joan Lady Swyn- 
borne, who wa^ then in the actual possession of 
the K»sex estates of the Ikttelourts, as the heir of 
John Botetourt, eldest brother of the whole blood 
of the eaid Elizabeth. 2. If Lady Oxford was 
the daughter of John Lord liotctourt, her aifitor 
Alice must have been another daughter of his; 
and must, therefore, have been bom at the very 
latest in 1324, when her father dit^d, and her 
mother was above tiftv-two years of age. (Cf. 
I^ch, 23 Edw. I. 135, iud 30 "Edw. 1. 3«.) This 
■would make Alice above twenty-five years older 
than her husband llobert WUlouf^hby, who wag 
born about 134i); and it is incredible that, in that 
sge of wardships, the hair of Willoughby would 
haye married at eighteen a woman of forty-three 
with no extraordinary claims to rank or wealth. 
Besides, we k-now that Robert Willoughby 'stbird 
wife ElisEftbeth was the greAt-granddaughter of John 
de Botetourt and Maud ; and it is ino$t improb- 
able that one of hifl wives should be the daughter, 
and another should be the great-granddaughter of 
the same persons. 

These objections seem to me to be fatal to the 
theory put forward in the Colkctmuti^ and I have 
read no other which can bo even plausibly main- 
tained. I am driven therefore to the conduaion, 
that tlio filiation of Maud Countess of Uxfard, 
and the parentage of her aunt Alice Willoughby^ 
are genealogical problems which have still to be 
aolved. Tewars. 

P.S. I have just read II. S. G.'s note, and 
hasten to add a few remarks on it by way of post- 
ecript. I had not overlooked thai it has been 
assumed by Banlcs, and roundly asserted in the 
Tt>pitgraphrr and Gcnntlogiai (ii. 271). that the 
jury on the inquest of Lady Oxfora were all 
wrong in finding that Robert NVilloughby woa the 
heir of the countess through his grandmother 
Alice, the sistor of her mother; and that " their 
finding ought to have been," that he was her 

heir through his great-grandmother Cecily, th« 
niece of the supposed father of the coimt«n. 
Now it is, of course, possible that the finding on 
ttiis or any other iuquest was wrong, but it ii 
obviously unreasonable to set aside the c-xprMC 
statement of a legal record except upon tb« 
clearest eyidcnce : whereas in this case the ooly 
OToiind that I can see for iuipugning the rtcord 
IS, that our knowledge of the surroundinjr facts 
is too imperfect for us to be able to expLua all 
the conclusions deduced from it. Beaides, thv 
corrected finding which these gvutlemen are oUii^ 
ing enough to supply for the jury opens up a new 
dilUculty: for we know that Cecily Willoughbr 
was one of thfee sisters and co-heirs, who all 
left issue ; if therefore the relationship was traced 
through her, Robert Willoughby could not po«- 
sibly haye been the heir of the countes?, for tbs 
descendants of Cecily's two sisters would hare 
been found co-heirs with hlni. It therefore peemtui 
unnecessarj* to notice an as^sumption which is sup- 
ported by no evidence, and which only subatituiei 
one difiiculty for another. 

U. S. G, corrects my remark, that Hizabtth 
and Alice were co-heirs': and it is probably true.!* 
1 have shown in my note, that they were neituT 
the daughters nor the co-heirs of John Lord Bo» 
tetx)urt ; but it seems evident from the /if. /i. >■- 
of 1413, that they were (at all evenU, in ibdj 
issue) the co-heirs of their father, whoever he nuy 
have been. Their father, however, could Mautdy 
have been Sir William Skipwith, the Chief Ilarno, 
as H. S. G. hod adopted from CoUiaa : for ths 
heir of Lady Oxford would hare been found ia 
the heir of 'the Chief Baron's eldest son, if Ut 
mother hod been his daughter. 

As to the statement, that Robert Lord WiW 
loughbv married Elizabeth, daughter of Jota^ 
third l^arl of Salisbury, it is quite clear from t 
comparieou of dates that this cannot refer to 
Robert the fourth lord: for his son and hell ^^^ 
liam was born about 13(58, whilst his supposed 
grandfather, the third Earl of Salisbury, (lid t»t 
mnri-y until the end of 1382 {Esch. G Rich. II. 14): 
so that William, the fifth lord, must in IltliMI* 
trcdr's pedigree be at least fifteen years oW* 
thnn his mother. The match with Afontacut^ii 
tu)i noticed in the Willoughby pedigrves; h<d 
Dugdnlt mentions it under " Monlacute '" (i. *iSl)i 
and there is no difiiculty in believing that Eliu- 
bytb was the first wife of Robert aixili 1^ 
Willoughby, who was about the same ft;:'.- «-« thf 
fourth Karl of Salisbury (cf. Ewh. 1 Ht-n. IV. U, 
and Esch. 11 Hen. IV, 15). She must hnve dj«i 
young and n. p. ; and it raises a slight pre^umotiM 
iu favour of a previous roaniage, that Lent "H* 
lough by*B daughter and heir by his wife iUurf 
s not bom until 3 Uen. VL, when he w* 


thirty-eight years old (JEjpA. 30 Heo. VL 1^>. 

4* a. V, Jam. M. '70. 



Writhkr Progvosticatioxs (4'*' S. Ui. 580 ; 
jr. 37 ; v. 4i>.)— Tha t'oUowing return of roin-fikll 
from Tht iitoudartl, Jammry 2 to 10, 1S70. proves 
t^ oorrortneM of MatliiL-u "fdc U t)roaie)'a indicn- 
ftioiu: **P. 28. Jonri'.T. Pluie oaaez abondante 
B leB praniior? de jfuivier **: — 

JaaniLry Ut S43 

„ and . !f*l 

„ 3rd , . . 1S2 

4lh . . . 813 

„ ftlh . . . '-'tW 

„ 6iU ... 10« 

^ 7tli ». . :IM 

„ «ih ... *i*50 

25-63 inchcjt.*' 
P. W. 

XB*ii Arxs (4"" S. iv. 408. 504; v. 42.)— 
Uer's Hi story' of DoHhat^ 1830, it ia there 
cd tbnt — 
Xbout Uic middle of the furlreu, part of a wall r«- 
aa, thrvtigh which there U a gmtoway, iiirmoantad 
irUharmortal hearin^i. ThU fjate sccius to have led to 
tbc prim-ipal nii-irtinrnLa. In the cflntre are the nrms of 
T^- -*--■ - rh Karl of Uunbar, who sucffcled hi» 
and who, bcsidca the earldom 'if nuiibar 
}k\ I ntT'l the lordsidp of Annandalc and the 

Hiiu I'rurn hia heroio mother. ITies* must have 
plar«l there after bla suoceeding to those c«ta(««. 

wu the first who asMimed the &nni< sculptured i 
Iba vrntre of the f;ate, viz, a liir^f thaiipilar •ihield, | 
tit*T«au a liou rarupftnl, within a hurder charged 
*iLh fiirbt rosea. 'Hiia ntiield i.i adomcd with a beltnet, 
ivl f>>r cjMt a horK*9 li«fld bridled. On the ri^ht an; 
Ut* -v - <" •':- Hnices, and on the l«fl ihoM fif the lile 
If ^4 also nodcex the arm!* of Scotland ; but 

«■<< ■>!-» are defaced bv time and the ntorms." 

T. G. S. 

IMrMaTios A>D Dkdiciiion Stom:s(4"' S.v. 

•r.y— Thw custom of raokiDB' a money deposit oh 

ttw than twdrr fuundntion stnnea bna lately 

Vo toade tbc most of by tbo Primitive Methodiats, 

n a copy of a circnlar recently distributed 

•iphb'-jwTbood, wbicb speaks for iUelf : — 

dial New Chap«I, Scontborpc. — 

: klavcrs. The Ministers Truste««, 

Ml ■•■' '-nterpriiM! ore happy to 9tate 

on ' ■ i:Ub, 18(i".*, the Fmindation 

.11 :* will be laid. Tliey have 

. Llwit Very iir rv -t lii-Ir friend* will be 

part in Mm- n !■ : t i^,; and important 

' ' ' ■■ .i 1,* .,!< iviiig aMniuberor 

1 » do no; nni) therefore they 

I hem to do *o. The ander- 

: \ c. n.iiiie.-4 up to Friday, Sep- 

ili tii^ written on pnr.-l'itnriit 

' ^i(.-.i in tho fMuniliitiun 

i'pted.— William 
urs. Winterton, 

i fc pl&onrda It was atmounc^ M fol- 

iMMiilay tba Uth, at half-past One v'aock. Uio 
\k Traatflea, and Priemla will meet M the Bam 

aforesaid, and thence Proceniou In the Site of the iu- 
tcndctl Xcw Ch.ipel. At Two o'ChwIc the Foundation 
Stone of the Ni'w Chofwl will be laid bv Hubert Win- 
nbiit, Eso. uf Mnnh IIouw, Elarton, and Memorial Stonea 
will be laid by Mafltcr D. ElIU and Mbs 8. A. Grcv of 
Great Grimsby; IhcUev.J. StophenMn of (irimtbr. Rev. 
\Vm. Whitby nnd Kcv. Thoi. Lowe of Wiottirton, Samuel 
Ellis U*q. off^Jrinwby; Messrs. IL Smethurit, H. Mutld, 
\V. Mudd. and T. Grey of Grimsby, will lake part in the 
nervice. Inimediatdy after laying tbo Htonea, scorea of 
Frifiid* will Iny FnuntlAlion OVipka, nnd deposit thereon 
thpir f •(TiTinjf* of 2i. )W. and upwards. Abbot 4 o'Clofk 
B Public Tea," &c. &e. 

I understand that about 164/. wab " realised ** 
on the ocCABion. 

In connection with the deposdt of coins in foun* 
dation &tone.i, which doubtlo&s originated in tbe 
donra to leave soaio cbaxoctcriatic and permanent 
memorial of tho time nt which they were laid, 
it abould be noticed that from mediasval ttnvea it 
has been no uncommon practice to impress coins, 
jettons, and medals on tbe moulds for cburcb 
beiU, so that they are reproduced tocether with 
tbe inscriptions, founders' marks, or otber stamps. 
At Sevennampton, in Gloucestersbire, is or was a 
bell bearing a replica of a Jewish balf-sbekel. 

J. T. F, 
Wintertoa, nasr Brigg. 

Zkcca. Dooawa (4*" S. IT, 257, 46)?. 600.) — 
With reference to tbe derivation of caia/iito, I find 
I have recently noted from Giotutaire de$ 3£oti es- 
paynoh ftportugnix ttf'ricis tie rnrahe, par R. Dosy 
ct VV.H.Enpelmann, 2de tfd. Leyde, 1800, p. 376, 
that tbe Arabic origin of tbe word is not accepted 
bv M, Dozy. I have not noted the grounds of his 
objection. The evidence on the other side was 
taken from Richardson's Persian and Arabic ZHct,, 
edited by F. Johnson, 1852, which pives — 

'* Kaff, stripping off the bark of a tree .... caolldni^, 
pitching, filling up seanM ofaaJiip irUh tho tlbresof paloi 
leaves or mos» . . , ." 

" Kal/at, .... caulking (a ship) . . . ." 

This is strong evidence. But M. Dozy is, I 
believe, a very Ingb authority. iV« regards dojfotia, 
which Mr. IJ. S. CnARieocK says "seems to be 
derived from Sox^i ^°X^* from Uxoficu/' be may be 
assured tUst it m nevertheless most certainly from 
tbo Arabic dticiin. He will find this derivation 
of thH aduana in tbe above work, p. 47. 
Anil I mar add that mediieval forms of the 
Italian wori are doana and dotvmn. Pe^olotti (in 
Dcffa Decima, vol, iii., near beginning; says that 
tbc word for customs ia " doauu in all the cities of 
tbe Saracens, in Sicily, in Naples, and tbuiuij;bout 
tbe kinj^dom of ApuUa." In Amari's Dipiomi 
Aralij from tho Florence archives, the word 
deivfin frequently occurs, in Tunisian and other 
documents, as the Arabic equivalent of dogana 


(aee pp. 7i\ fl8, 00, 01). It is not noedful to be 
ftn Amliic scUolar (■which I am not) to afiCf>rtain 
thfti n.tioh. H. Y. 


"yATiKB MiunppuKn," lo90 (4'" S. v. y.'J..)— 
This must bu llie ovlebrnted work entitled Safyre 
Mtmpp^r rfi* la Vfrtu ctu Catholicnti cf^i/wiync, 
writ'Hn by Le Roy, Nicolas Rapin, Pasat-mt, 
Pithou Florent Chrestien, and Oiflot, at whoAc 
houte they uaed to meet, M. Feuillot dc Conches, 
in his very entertaining Caiuenes d'un Cumw, 
8*yfl of it (\i\. ^4^ : — 

" Ce imnt le.t (^crivains gaulois ct pfttriotiqnn! do la 
Satjfre Menippte, auxilioircfl tlea armo) Oe Huiri IV, qui 
out aflBurd md trioraphc. Dans c« pnmphler, qui est un 
liTTe et iiTi b*au Mvn\ I'esprit prcn'l tou^ Ifi tons, avec one 
sap^riurit*^ loi^uursifj^ale. Ici, naif etfamilier.ecjaiique et 
barlvque, U etuone aillcan par la m&lo vif^ucar, par le 
boo senn supremo de la peases U tftioccUc de XTahn 
hardfflv de sailUea impt^ueases, de urcaamca irre'sijitib]c<i ; 
U termsso •our la vehe'iueDcti do rioTective Ion petit9 
tyrans de Bacrittle, do mninonp, de caserne et de rube. 
Personnu n'fe<l epar^ne : ni le Liouf-G^iitfral du Royuumo, 
ce Dur do M«yenne, ejos ot repU-t. pesant et malelicie, 

2ui, ' dut-il crevcrtit sVnflur grod eouitnc un bcDuf, cotnme 
t )■ m^'^frI€noulUc,*ne sera jamais si gros seigneur que 
le Bearnoiii," etc. 

P. A. L. 

If inquirer L. will be plensed to refer to 
Lowndes (p. 140, nrt. "Bee, Jean du, Abbot of 
Idortiraer"), ho will there Bnd the veritable 1697 
edition of The INdory of Tamcrliuie (ne publiehad 
in the Rev. J. 6. I'earaon's " index Catalogue of 
Booka iu Emmanuel College, Camhridgo"), sup- 
plemented by a short foot-note of " Warlon'a" 
opinion thereon, &c. &c. 

Thifi book. 1 believe, ia not Tery rare; but is 
considered ehoiee, and held in estimation by oiaity 
readerfi of Oriental literature, from the ([uaint 
idiomatic styl<^ of its tranf^laiion, as well as tlio 
deeply int«Testing historical account it gives of 
the wiirliko movemenla and the momentous stir- 
ring eventfl connpoted with the Tartarian em- 
peror Tiinour, and hia extraordinary era of near 
nve hundred years oga 

JoHX W. Stkvknson. 

Clintun Rine, New Basford, near Nottingham. 

F.?, Lowndes de^mbea a quarto translation of 
thifi date on p. 210], art "Satires"; as also on 
J. 24tVt, art. " -Spain" — evidently the some book. 
Not iniprohftbly the Satire Mntippisedj 1695, of 
the Rev. J. B. Pearaon. 

" A Child's Uheam op RBAVETf " {i^^ S. v. 23.) 
This bftlLuU inquired after by Vix, will be foand 
in Hone's Licry-Dny Buok, vid. i. col. ^IfO. It 
was talteti by m»* from Thtt Life of iJavid Love, 
an oM buIlrtd-Hiiijier of Nottingham in the year 
182(t, find included in an account of him sent bv 
me under the ttij/nnlure of *' M. T." to IIi»ne. 
Prefixed h-i thin a<^count i& a wnodcut of David as 
Ike ftppoazed thoru vending his ballads and Life, 

He is represented as being in " n 

place, and was at that time - i •_ 

nge. His book 1 hove long lost, but p 
copies of it yet exist in Nottingham. Tht 
ns e.xtracted by lue contains no verse literally tb<l 
(Mtme as the one given by Vtx, as he stMima 
expect would be the case, out the commenr^menl 
haa sufficient resemblance to identify it. David 
liOve was a Scotchman, and bad wandered in 
various capacitit^, soldier and otbors, in 8c'»tland 
and ihia accords with your correspondfut's idea 
that the poem "came from Scotlaml in the be^n- 
nin^ of this century." It sfttick me, when I 
copied it, as much superior to the roat of David^s 
rhymes, and may possibly ha\^e been given bjr 
him from memory rather than from his owm 
genius. If so^ no doubt some earlier trace of ft 
will be found. It consists of aixteon stanzas, too 
many for your space. Willmm Howitt, 

The hymn sought after by your eorrospondont 
will be found in the Works of *'John Bnrclay, 
A.M., Minister of the Berean A&«!mhly. Edin- 
burgh/* 177«. ii. 3(W>. It is called " A Child'* 
Dream," and consists of eight double stansai, tiie 
first of which is as follows : — 

** Kjiow re who I mw laet night, 
Slevning on my bed, Mamma ? 
A ahimng crealiir<> all in light. 

She seemed n heavenly tnuid, Mamnub 
I met ber rri-: i: ■ 'rtlied«w. 

Fine as i lay, Mmnnia, 

She saw, !ili> 1- to mf flfw, 

And bade uiu uvum awav, Ma-innia.*' 

WoRDswoRni (4" S. v. 34.)— By the kit 
of the Bishop of Lincoln, I am able to 
Mb. Macray that the lines quoted by him 
from un original sonnet written by'tli'? jK>tit 
Wordsworth, between, the bishop beli 
years 1799-1804, and mav be found in 
eix-volurac edition of hia tVorhn (Moxon, iv '2ih), 
the hwt of four sonnets on ** Personal Talk." bf- 
ginuiug with the words "Nor con I not h ' 

TiTK Bnir.K kvowt* to Awctent HsAruiM^n 
M"* S. V. 61.) — As a slight contribution to this 
inquiry, I (^xtract the following etatwrnent (tan 
Smith a Bibh Dtctionarij : — 

"Gen. i. fl. 'The evonin^^ and I' "'" 

Hnt day.' u pa'*KnK« whii:li (he ' 
quoted to Aloxnnder the lireat {•■ 
Rcland. Ant Bebr, iv. 15)."— Att. " Day," k»j V* Vi 

w. ILS; 

FOLCT Fajcilt f4* S. v. 62.)— The nams 
Kdward Kinjcstnn Foley is not ftiut"! 
grpe nf that family in Na<h's H'" 
Shaw's Stiiffordihirp- but he mo, 
connect-d with another bnmch in 
diitinntlv ronnecttid with the enrndir..! ' 

Wlthsy 'Court. Thos. E. Wimn 

«^j^ V. Ja3I.»,*70.] 



' -r-T--©^ ToBxaimtt (4* S. r. 99.)— T am 
wer C. L.'5 query: but I Advice him 

1 in obtaining hia information, fur I 

thai, in Hpite of leneuled p^^tt•fit^i froni their 
__>iit(M t_ tli4j vicar una churchwardens nre jij.^t 
^<i iroy the chnacel floor, coiifiHting nl- 

m ■ y of DK'nuineutnl etnnts, and to lay 

down tL biack ami white* prtvenient. Can nothing' 
be done to st^jp this kind of thic^r? Skaix. 

nt«TO«T OP TbRKE iMPOSTrtRS (4'*' S. iv. 601 ; 
r. ' M account of I'acire Otlomiino and 

M i {aiuu Don Philipni) will be found 

m Ujc lurf-ifh Spi/f vol. iv, book I. letter 40, and 
^. ▼, book IT. letter 17; and of Sabata Sevi or 
Levi, in vl, \i. b-.^-k li. lettera 11 and 12; also 
in Slf/cJie* f/ Lnpttfttfre and i^Ttiuii/i/ (Murrnva 
Pjuuilj Ubrary^. Tho book itself 1 have seenin 
the Cape Town library, aome years ago. H. II. 


CiSAU J4* a iv. 30.)— The following extract 

ipoai Enteli^h Reprinte, No. xix. p. 87 (London, 

1«W\ on *'The Introductioa of Tobacco into 

■^." id an earlier one thaa those given by 

* Pennant, in his Journey to Snotcdon, 
I :, which forms the Mcond rolame of lih 

' '^ ' t^ret of which wan ;»uMUlied In 1778, 

nccounl of WiUinm MiddUton, ihe 

'■''■ id Miildleton, (jovcmor «f I^fiibigb 

:l«i:r U> Sir Hugh Middleton, the idxth sou 

-I nl.Tr i-if' rmation, from * It ia saved ' to +, 

«■'■ I • r I V .f the Sebriiiht JlSS.i i.e. MSS. 

Mr. I'Mwonl Lluvil, but lent hy 

' i^ht, Uuri., in whose po«c9*ian thpy 

l^«naAnr« prefa<», March 1« 1781. 

'■•''"Taph is mrrelv Vennani'a i«pc- 

Mfue truth in thv SIS. le<;t?iul. 

■vnK ■••3 nnt.iiii, and an cmi- 

Til ; hut his 

o.ili^^ him- 

i v..^. ^Militia itilo 

' 4th, 1^95, " apud 

1 "; whit'h, as well 

vJf--i»Lik, ot All vf U tU't Poetry, yrvTa pub- 

U'liilda, (be Crst in'lGo:!, the other in li>93. It 

;)i..: In- MiOi Captain Thonioa Price, of Plaeyo- 

: Iv»et, were the tirot who Amukod, nr 

'(■ok tolmcLH) |>tihltckly in Ignition ; 

lUr l.iiiiiioiier» fluukcU frum all port* to ice 

."'t I'iiw-* wt w not ihrn invented, so they uiied 

r$. The inveiitiou i> usoHlly 

Ipiffli. It Tti-iy Iw so ; but ha 

' . ■ jpt'L'ially ia 

I to writo a 

1 The Ctmnter* 

Ixlit-d with llw above and eome 
CB.isi.E9 VrruJT. 

tai,4»''S. iv. 65y; v. 75.) 

the universe make me tbiuk about the hnuiiehoU 

rlf.>ck>i, which in our dialrict are always reminine. 
We say ** Shoo goes weel,'* " Shoo wantiP repgo- 
laAtin/'^ and ao on. In our dialect imtniniate ob- 
jects (Hunaiid moon included) are, axeUewhercin 
peneral neuter. Why the Ihniaeholil clr^ck should 

I fonu on exception, and, like the French lapentfufff 
bo feminine, is more than I can accoiinl for. 

I SiKruEN Jackson. 

Malbain Moor. Craven. 

' Lkavikg yo Stoku rsTimiTED (4'* S. v. 30.) 
It may inlerpst T. A. H, to know that there is a 

I fpcciea of bird called the ** tur».ston«" (Stt^nlaHf 

j llliger) of the order of "Stilt birds" {GraUtt, 
Linn.) I have a vivid recollection of the deep 
interest I took in tbo movements of u large 

! number of thefte birds, when on a viait to the 
Jardin di's Phmtca in Paris some yearn ago. Tho 
rapidity nod assiduity with which those pretty 
creatures tum over the stones in their little court 
in search of food is moet remnrkable. In the 
circum-'-tftncea, however, in which I saw them 
their labours were not very well rewarded, and 
vet they well deserved to be, for truly they did not 
leave a stone untamed to accompliflh their pur- 
pose. It is not at all unlikely that tho phrase 
^* leaving: no stone imtnmed " is doriveil from the 
habits of these wonderful birds. I think — though 
I am not ornithologiBt enough to state with cer- 
tainty — that the " ttimstone " is common to our 
shores. L. J. Platt. 


The SAWGBEii., ob IIoLr Gbaii. (4^* a. t. 29.) 
There is another derivation of the woi-d graal 
qnite ns probable as tho^c from the Latin or Old 
French. The word is said to be from tho liebrew, 

'"'?'?? (harahf rre ghraln) jtr<rpittiuTn, and signifies 
the cup or vessel gsed at circuiuciMion. .\a the 
Jewish element evidently mingles with tho tradi- 
tions fls to this vessel, this derivation ia worth 
noting. See IIer«og's Real-Encyklopadif. 


Godwin Swirx (4*'' S. v. 00.)— Id reply to the 
inquiry of HKRMAttvTLt.G, 1 beg to sny that God- 
win Swift was the eldest son of Thomaa Swift, 
Vicar uf Ooderich, Herefordshire. 

Jonathan, the brother of Godwin, married 
.\bi^ail Krick (a member of the Leirestershlra 
family of that name, now colled Heyrirk), and 
his son was Jonathan Swift, the Dean of St. 
Patrick's, b^irn Nov. 30, lfl67j to whom, there- 
fore, Godwin Svrift was undo. 

I fiud no record of any member of the famtlj 
ttling in .A.merina. The Swifta' cont-ttf-arms Ifl 
to bo found iu Gwillim, and ia what IlEusfAir- 
vrLLS describes it to be. 

JauA. CsciLiA SwnT. 

-Bomcrby Rectory, Grsnl 




Fkench Lyrics (3"» S. xii. 110.)— Mr. Gus- 
TATE Masson IB 80 learned and discriminative a 
student of his native i)oetry, that few lyrics, if 
any, can escape his notice, when found worthy of 
being treasured up for a new edition of his lAfre 
frangaisc. In a recent article of the Revue des 
deux MondeSj on French poets and i>oetry, some 
extracts were eiven from the woiks of living 
writers who aspire to a place on the French Pai> 
nassus; and one short poem, in particular. Is so 
striking from its severe simplicity and truthful- 
ness to nature, that a translatiou of it, which 1 
now send, may gratify French readers of " N. & Q." 
who are now so widely scattered through the 
length and breadth of France. J. Macray. 



Par M. PArLLERos. 
" The first man that I saw depart 
(I was too young to bleed at heart. 
That anguish comes when hope is high). 
It was to see my father die. 
The second death — my brother's — yet 
I see him with a fond regret ! 
Embracing him, by doubt held fast, 
Ilalf-muttered growls at Hcaren I ca:jt. 
But on the day my mother died — 
Twas her this third time left my side — 
I smiled, and said with hopeful trust, 
The soul must live for ever — must ! 
Since then no more 1 rave and weep. 

Nor tears nor aagaisfenow X keep; IctMC^ 
No more I suffer, hope is nigh ; | \/ 

No more I doubt, but look on high." 



Contributioru to the Literature af the Fine ArtM. By Sir 
Charles Lock p:a8tlako, F.R.a, D.CX., late President 
of the Royal Academy, and Director of the National 
Gallerv. Second Senet. With a Memoir compiled by 
Lady l^astlake. (Murray.) t 
Students of art in England are fti^Iy indebted to Sir 
Charles Eastlake, end this owing in no small degree to 
his peculiar character, in which powers of organisation, 
capacity for business, and all that is supposed to belong 
to practical common sense, were combined with the most 
sensitive type of the artist nature. To the latter he 
owed that succes.« in his profession which made him Pre- 
sident of the Koyol Academy ; to the former the ad- 
ministrative power whicli enabled him to discharge suc- 
cessfullv the duties of (hat high station and its kindred 
office, the Directorship of the National Gallery. It was 
fitting, then, that Sir Charles's Anal Contributions to the 
Literature of the Fine Arts, here printed — which consist 
of three l-Zusays, the first, "Uow to Observe," being in- 
tended to assist the intelligent observation of works of 
art ; the second being devoted to the " Difference between 
Language and Art, the Beautiful and tfao Sublime; Re- 
presentation of The Saviour," Ac; and the third, "On 
the Characteristic Differences between the Formative 
Arts and Descriptive Poetry," — should be accompanied 
by a Memoir uf this accomplished artist and critic. This 
task naturally devolved upon Lady Eastlahe. The Me- 
moir of her husb.tnd is characterised by great good taste, 
ddicacy, and feeling, and the volume is at once a fitting 

tribute to the memory of Sir Charies EutUciad 
valuable addition to the list of English Act BiognflH 

Whimsicalitiis: a Periodical Gtttheruig, ^Vmrn] 
Hootl. To which are added, ** York and £aM*r* 
and ** Lost and Found,** a FraffuKnt ihitktrit ayi^.] 
lished), "The Kpptna Bmnf,*' and "Ewgese Jm^l 
WiUi the Original Ilhatrations by the Awtkr, T ' 
Leech, George Cmikshank, and W. Harvey. (1* 
A new edition of Hood's Whim$ietditie$ euomk 
recommendation on its titla-pege; aodwheathit 
page announces that the qoibblea and qaidditin rf I 
richest of all word-humourists afMUastratedb/luim] 
pictorial puns, and the scarcely less admirable^ 
by Leech, Cruikshank, and Harvey, it leaves nottd^jlj 
be said. We regret that the volume doea not 
Hood's " Lament for the Decline of Chivaliy"; 
that is the case we purpose, next wedc, in 
with the request of several correspondents, to lepMI 
in our own colnmna 

ShakeKpeare illustrated by the Lex Scripta. Ar 

Lowes Rushton, of Gray's Inn, Barrister-at-LtVi 

First Fart. (Longman.) 

Mr. Rushton's first appearance as an 
Shakespeare was in an ingenious Uttle vqIdim 
Shakespeare a Lawyer^ in which he antidpatdlli 
CampbeU's better known volomc. Sevenl mda 
similar character, in which Mr. Rushton has tira^l 
professional knowledge to bear on the daddatW' 
obscure passages in the text of oar great dramatH' 
displayed considerable ingenuity and aeamcn; mb 
new volume, much of which has been contzibotad ti 
Berlin Society for the Study of Modem LangflSgM. 
been published in the Society's 'Journal, is mmi 
the same characteristics. 

Books rrcbivrd. — The Glossary of CbnniA 
liocal and Family^ Ancient and Modem, Cdtie, " 
^c, by the Rev. John Bannister, LL.D^ Part II 
ton, Truro), bring the glossary down to " Qali 
and contains on its wrapper a list of iinex]daiiisd 
iic, respecting which Dr. Bannister invites ' 
and asaistance. 

Atchley*s Builders' Price Booh for 1870, far A 
Engineers, Contractors^ BuilderSj ^c. (Atchley k 
no doubt, as the publishers assure as, a book m which 
previous editions have been found most osHol by ' 
for whose benefit it has been prepared ; but in 
only record its existence. 

The English Method of Teaching to Bead— Tit 
Book ; The First Course ; The Second Course ; Tk 
and Fourth Courses-~~by A. Sonnonscheia and J- H* 
Mciklejohn, M.A. (Macmtllan), exhibit conniknU< ^ 
genuity in what has long been recognised u a «^ 
namely, some improvement in the ola-Cishioned 
of nursery instruction. 


LATE B. B. Woodward, Esq. — As a testimtmyto 
memory and services of this lamented gentlenilf • 
Majesty^s Librarian at Windsor Castle, whcae wi 
do:ith and unsuccessful attempts in public^ritidfl' 
deavours to establish the ** Fine Art Qoarterly Re**** 
and other works, have left his family very inadeqMlV 
provide for, an influential Committee hu beeoMMi 
for the purpose of raising a sum of monev, by nb^^ 
tion, for the benefit of his widow and children. Alnf 
enjoyed the privilege of visiting the Library at I^bM 
the treasures of which had been made acceanbk ^j^ 
enlightened liberality of the Prince Onuort, will rsw^ 
her how much they were indebted to Mr. Woodw 
for his uniform kindness and urbanity, and hoi f ^ 
plctely his knowledge and experience were at tlMMnic* 

Jak. 29, 70.] 



irlenU and roiiiiutwors ftf art. Her Mije«lr, 

inmal klndnvM and liberality, faa« been plcavvu 

pmsiuo of 80/. jwr Btiuum to Mi^. Wondwaril. 

h'lWfvpr, tlml ninny will gladlv Iiail an 

!' Ntiiiir llu-ir Minpa'Jiy willi IiU be- 

I cuiitributi'n^ to al)«^'mtc iu t^Miic 

us wliicb Mr. Wwjdward's Middeo 

V entailed npon tliOMs who were 

.'to bim. William Sinitb, Ksq., of 

5tiKli«i'L JMf^tt, Cnmbridge .Square, W., wlio 

Mmntnl to acl as Honorary Trea.iurcr nnd Sccretari', 

lt< till 1 1- to rci!cive Julf^criptiona which may bo fur- 

. chi'quA tu be crossed "Conll* and O'.,' 

.^ouiinL (Woodward Fund) at lluit iJiuik. 

Uiu vr AiJ^XASin-.ii nKitZEX. — This "Brrll-Unown 

lUvjcUi*, kiK-.UIi;»t. nnd JuaraalfDt, tba editor of llie 
fc'. ' of mniiy polUi'-al worUs, died in 

1 11 .' Ut instant, in the iifty-third yi>ar <j1 

P, . ( ,ilt;ick of influniinali(>u of the liingd. 

*y MDlcnt with tlui^ir cndcaroars to throw open tho 

tn,^ n<* tn of th(i British Museum, and ho by the 

•" lights rtidan^nnt; the bafety uf our 

Liniml Library*, the cntbu^ia^ic advotrales 

■ V.rine Iiavo advanced a ^t^p fiirtUfr, 

ly for the opening uf tho Public 

i:\ry inquiries in the evening; and 

^ tvMiAly unuovncfAl that Mr. Lowe had vLnited 

MtaUbbmrnt for the purpose of considering how 

MAt eoold be earritrd out, Wc are happy to l* 

lO contradict the rrpnrt. Tho Master »f tho KoHa 

fPCTTiMc of tlie value of the Historical Uccordi of 

hi •■■>•» U* i'xp(t-te th«;ni to any »turh rltk ; 

» < I lb? £.\chcnucr U nvilher disposed 

pan ^... ^,^^ iiiQ nor to (leu the foiidA for carr^'in^ 

L Cnii.-HBLADEO CaSB OF hoUD LoVAT. — Tbi« 

•^vi chafed gold top — the identical cane 
..-i| Ltirat on th« KoafTbId to his cousin, 
I — XK»H sold by auction, on Saturday, by 
' . \Vil»Uibon, and Uodge, and rvalistid 

[ ntxt Kxhibition by the Burlington Fine Arts 

• (II 1,.- -V-volwl to the works of Mii'had Angclo and 

. in addition to .lonit* fln« oi-J;^nn] draw- 

'.■lii.f:lton uS rngnkvja^ and phutulitbo- 

Mfviii the worki of these great masters wilt bo 

)0 of the Moritt Knenmium of Errwmua, with 
ilkitia by Holbein, prtnic-d from the oii;;inuI 
inDUnccd by Mi-:Htin.s. Hkeve & Tcit-NEit. 



•f Tr'.ee, *f.. <•( lV« fuWaw^nt Book* to bt wnt iIlrMi lo 
I by vliofB thtt m reguirrd, whoK nuiict and a<ldnwM 
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rm«rc(:tiiae« f.>ni»n]t«l on Bt*tili(«tion to MR. G. W. ASHBR 
ir, JlornlnjTon Ociccm, Ijowkin, ^.W. 






At all Ubraiiea. 


«f ri.BSTEB. BrJAMESr.KANT. Atilhuf of " Ih* GrcMt M«- 
With I'ortrmil, lii». IHtadp Mm dmu. 

THE r.AMIN'G TABLE. it« Votariw and Victims. 

In »II r.iimtri« »n<l Tlnir<. t-nTtUllv In Enal*n'l »»d Tnetm. By 
ANimi^W STKINMETSC,U*ni«i«t-»*-L««. lolvoto-Wo. 


AuOm of " The Oum Blnfa orSwwhnL" »n». Wltli^niMtnUaM. 


CAIT. R. I". UL'KTOM. Aitttiiir oT " A MImIoti to ZMiomrf, 
**Tb<s [IuihlatMUorB(m<ll/.fc«. **<». WItU »«C)Mk1 XUwtrMkina. 


MR- •nd «»**■ i'KTHBRICIC la * *oU. t*w. With Mat-. 
PoiiniU, ami nuDirruu* lUuiumtloua. 

Vew WoveU Id KeftdlaB at all Xlbrarivs. 


UK.S. UENRY WC«:>D. Author tTf" Em( Lyuu*," l:c SvaU. 

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ko. 3 vuLi. 

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VALENTINE EOKDE: u Norrf. By Cbcit. Gbiv- 

MTH, Amhur «f " Vlomry Dean*," tui. tn 3 ti»U. 

THE LILY ami the RO?tE: a Tnle of tho Untrulh 

of » True UcRTt. BrUABRLELH. UARWOOn. Tndrob. 


Korel. Br Ui« COUSTEM VOW DOTU&LER. In 3 vmIi. 

QRTF : A 5^ti^ry of AiutJftIi«D Ltfr. Bv B. LbopoU) 



rBANi:iH FR^VNCIS. In S Tula. lJm»4 rrArf|r. 

TIVSI.CT BROrnCRB. la. Cklhorlae StrMl. Slmnd. 



of OLD 

_ BiKiK^. I'KIN'TS, *<■- now r^iuty. 

» Collection of Mli, I'AINTINUS he 1.*. 

of Qucctt C«iuliiio,»buut a n. by ion K flnt A tinr-pi^cc, 

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r, SATvnoAT, rsanuAnr k, lero, 

CONTENTS.— N» 110. 

w. "Whitlto." 13» — Th*j Legionary TaMot 
X>'«f«». Liiilttl»r>'iW»hire. lli> — Oriirinik! Lel- 
t p^r -r *;....-—• 1- I.. 1 ' ->'*rUs Sir 

e— Notleei 

- / ...V. v.i.Licet; the 

nnd ArobcKilon', /A. 
rlmid PeenunCue. 

v^. *_--w.^ ^T-« — vjitu'u cum Dlgnilate" — 

MPS. uf Rolwrt of Gloiinwter*! Chronlclfl, 

1 Mto-n)iero— John AsfoU — Catho- 

Mxii. 22— CbatiKiitK thv Kint Uet- 

' TviM — CUq Tariaus — Kmry and 

LiiLfcjiics of £rumu8 — Statue of Junes II. 

Litdcr — " MMlaaie de Mftlquct**— Mount 

Nif'Imn, D.D.— U&t«n Pipnt. Ac — Proverb 

I Richardson — Tbo SanitrcAl, or Ho>v UreaJ 

-Suap. orN^M, u a Twiultialion — fitoles 


H 'Airflwxu: — Bfaakapoara and Donne 

rreloohy "— Prima Miolator — Twickauham 
filler IIaII - BiAhop Jeremy Taylor. 1^ 

Garriion Chapul. Portsmouth, 140 — B&llj. 
t at Niiruml)ciY and Munich : the Kiai of 
I»l — Ann§ of Slaughter, lit — Ebefiwtcr 
Chkrlm Dibdln'i USS^ /&. - Date of Entry 
ihtk'stinii of Workt hy Daniel DefiMf, lU — 
orin. Ac, 1M — Beta's Nt>w T^titnient — 
l««— Ponition of Creed, Ac., in Churches — 
vm» toADctant Healheuism— "TboSiatiuv" 
louritoua Knight/' i;c^ 157. 

JrXTTJS: "WflnTLE." 
libs since, the Dieanln^ of the "word 
liAcosaed in the pages of " N. & Q." 
to give two examples of the use of 
lich it mAj not be UDdcsinible to put 

beoriDfr, in however eliy^bt a degree, 
B question. Ou Janiiarv Si, 1787, the 
iflon wrote to the Enrl of Chatham, 
note which George III. had written 

iindor the date of Jonuarj 17 of the 
I the following worda : — 


afy mortjflnl that Lord Cbitbsm Is prc- 
nren fit of the gout from coming to town 
k hii iMiiUooe would have b««n offio much 
I desire yon vHl let him know how ain* 
M fitr what his niiud, as well as tiis body, 
time. I am too th-'rougMy convincod that 
,h nil- in th? caulitin timt must l»e used, 
nHia nffHir he H-htitled to a mtrr nnthing^ 

t oo this untoward creut rucumnieod any 
amapection to vou. 

"GROftKR B." 

B In tbo ftboTB are Tnin<?. If I am 
Kwing that the word whitt/e, omployed 
this waj, wgft at tho date in question 
" ■ ■ ^cept perhaps among rustics 
Jie of your waders may be 
..« »ui..oritatiTelf), Lord Chatham 
been atruck by the king's use of it. 
remftrkable that, if it bad been 

used even by the Puke of Graftoo, it must, one 

would suppose, hare attracted attentioD ; but used 
by tho kim,' it waa likely to impress itself upon 
Lord Chatham's recollection, and, as happens in 
such ca^s, would probably recur to him when- 
over the same idea was presented in another form 
of words. 

Oo January 14, 1773, Junius, in a private 
letter to the Earl of Chatham, enclosing a proof 
of the former*8 letter to Lord MnnsUeld, subse- 
quently published in the Public Adc&dwr under 
the date of January 21, 1772, wrote as follows : — 

** I am «o clearly ftntisfied that Lord Min<!>5cH has 
done an act not trnrranted by law, ami that the encl^med 
argument is not to bo answered (bcaitles that, I tind tho 
lawyers concur with' me), that I am inclined to expect 
he may himself acknowledge it as an orersight, tmd 
endetrrnur to wHitth it meay to nothing." 

A^ain I have maiked tho paflsage, to which I 
wish attention to be directed, in italics. Aaaum* 
ing Chatham to be Junius, -which I confess is 
at present the tendency of mv guesses (one cannot 
venture to speak more decisively, even conjec- 
turolly, on a question so beset with difficulties aa 
tho authorship of the famous Letieri), we may 
account for his use of whittle by tho impresBion 
made upon him when he saw it in tho Idng^s 
letter. If however Junius was not Chatham, it 
is noteworthy that a word of such rare occurrence 
(in writing at any rate) should liave been used 
by two persons in epistolary correspondence about 
the same period. 

Leaving that point, I may observe that if T^ord 
Chatham were Junius, and had reason at that 
particular moment to fear that circumstancca 
would direct suspicion so strongly sg-ainst himself 
that i: would be necessary for him to do some- 
thing to avert it, what bettor means of effecting 
that purpose could he possibly have than a letter 
from *' the great boar of the forest" addressed to 
himself, commencing with this passage : — 

" Confiding implicitly in your lorilihip's honour, I toko 
the liberty uf submitting to you the eutuosed paper befure 
it be givtin to the public.*' 

And closing with this : — 

" I will not presume to trouble your lordflhip with any 
aflsurances, however juncere, of m>' reirpect and esteem for 
3'onr chnrncter sou admiration or your abiUiiea. Retired 
and unknown, 1 live in tbeahade.'and have only a fpeeii- 
Intive ambition. lo the wannth of my ima^notion, I 
wmetime54 conceive that, when Junius exerts Iiih utmost 
fiicultica in the service of tus country', he appn^aohcs in 
theory to that exalt»l eharacter which Lord l^hathain 
alone tills up and uniformly supports in action." 

Only one romtu-k upon this oxtrnct. One would 
imagine that Junius, writing to Chatham, would 
take cnre to write at least as well as uaunl ; but 
if Chatham were actually writin;! a letter to him- 
self which rniffhl never bu seen by any oth»T person, 
ho would not be very particular as regards stylo, 
and might, therefore, leave such an un».it is factory 



itcnco M the \AAi in the abare pAaao^A^ the mare 
"pftrticulnrly lu ho was compUmonfing bimscjf* 

Junius wns vory nnxioas about tbo prwsf ofbU 
letter to Lord iMaudticld. I{o first alludes to it 
in n prirftte letter to Woodfall, dated Jnauarj 0, 

"There is a thing to mention to yoa in great ooofl- 
denoe. I expect your awUtnnce, aiid relv npon your 
ftoerccy. There ii a long pai)«r, ready for puliHcation, but 
which muAt uot appear until (he muriiing of tho moetinM; 
r!" 1'- -^ -— Tit, nor bo announced in any -Jhapo whutcver. 
M !s on iU .ippcaring unexpC-ltHlU*. If you 

r.'' 1 he 8tli or 'Jth inst., can you, in a Jny or two, 

have it c-jmpos(pd ami two proof 9het>t^ strnck off" and ^ent 
mc; and cjiii vou ket-p thu press st^mding kaiW for the 
Puklic Adcertiser of the 2Irt? and can nil this bedono 
with such seor,'. y tliAt none of your people shall know 
wlut is j;uinjc forward except the composer, and can ^ou 
r»dy on his Jidtlity ? Consider of it, and if it Iw poa.'ilble 
?ay YES in vour paper tomorrdw. I think it will taljo 
foar full cofnmns at the Iea«t; but I undertuke it Ahall 
•dl. It is e««rntial that 1 should have a proof sheet, and 
correct it myself." 

It 13 romarVfible tbat this should have been the 
only occasion on whicli Junius, in bis corrcspond- 
enco vrith Woodfall, nxprtissed any wish to sen a 
proof of what ho wrote before it w«s published. 
(He saw proofs, we know, of the Grst two sheet*! 
of the ZvUcra when they were about to be puh- 
Itahed collectively.) AsftUuiiujj Junius aud Chat- 
bum to be ouo, it WAS necess^iry that he should 
ask Woodfull to let him have two proofs ; [becAuso 
if ho had obtained one only — which U all that a 
printtT is accustomed to pend to an author — and 
find not r'^turaed it, ibe circumst&nco would have 
p '">oilfflll, and have uupogod upon Junius 

l\. y of explanations which would bavo 

beoa iu^uvenient. 

I thke for ^n-anfvd ^I ftm nnabli^ to tcfetr' iG 
the paper) that Woodfall in the PtthUc Adofrtmr 
answured "yes"; but he seems not to havo kept 
Iu8 word, fur oq Saturday, January II, Junius 
writes to Woodfall ia a tone of vexation ; — 

*' Tour failing to send mc the proors, aa voa enpi^d 
to do, ili-^ppoiiiti and<[i»tres»es me cxtreniefy. It is not 
III ' ' .' . . ..^ (though even that isofcon- 

-'• r most uviteriiil purpitne. Thii 

^w i i* \ uu do not let me have Ihf 

twtf pitKfIa uu Mvu The paper iLscIf is, in 

mji* vpiuioo, of tLi. 'a: of Jl!:^ii's, and cannot 

f;'' '^ ■' ^' - ^. ,,1 ,,,[- „(,t aanouacifii' it wa;, that 
I- vc no time t<f conwrt nia measure* 

^^ But oimn rollectbn, I think it 

II Mu order to cxoiu attenTi>'>n) t'l ad- 

lore — 'Junius lo I^nl Chief .fuMic« 
^' .*.... If you have any regnrd 

I' . lut Hulking hinder you Mn'dlitg the 

im ■ ■ . , 

^Ji tbe opiniou of tboae who majntiiin that 
DuDoin^r vAi) Junius were well founded, the u^^e 
of tbe word •* party" for " persoo/* in the fli)Qvo 

* AE Ibo italici are Junloa'a, 

extract, nugbt be cjccusublo in a Uwjer^ but 
not, it was a vulgarlsfm iu Junius. 

After all, there wns nothing in the letter 
Lord Mauftield to make it a matter of importaiK 
that Ixird Clinlbam should ees it before it ai 
peared in the PitUic Atiivrliser. It was mei 
a repetition of the proposition which Jumtw hj 
previously laid down in a letter to Lord Man 
iield, dated Xorember 2, 1771. Tbia propositi! 
was more fully and ably stated in the »ec< 
letter, and supported by nulhoritie.t; but if Junii 
had thought it material that Lord Chatham shoul 
see those authorities before the expected dificti^fei^ 
he could have copied and sent tl:om to hitn. A^ 
length Junius got the mnch-wi.'hed-for proofs, 
apt>ear9 from a letter to Woodfall, dated Jani 
10,1772: — 

" I return yon the proofs with the crmta< which 
wilt be so good as to correot cnrefully. I har« 
greatest roAiwn to bfi pleaae<\ rrith yoar caro wnri il 
lion, and wish it were in my power* to reader yoa 
essential forvice. Announce it on Monday.** 

The proof which Junius retm^ned vrwt (nut 
tbe two be hnd asked for; the other was in 
possenioD of Lord Chatham. 

This note bad extended much further Uua 
contemplated, and I fear that your readoa 
Ijo sorry that I have not tchitUed it awav oaa-j 
liiderablj. C. li<m, 

In the publiAbed notices of tbia moin(?riat 
the Wall of Antoninus, no referenco (so 
nm awaro) hrts been made to the evidi?nc« 
supplies relative to ihe question whel 
coatem terminus of this bnrricr was in thi»l< 
It baa been infen^, indeed (see remc 
Jottnial of Archaclofficai hidiiuie tor June, 
on an interesting paper on the subject 
GenenU X^efroy, R. A.) — 

" that it mar be r^nutled as marking the ploca 
the Wall of Antoninu; terminated on the wsij 
discoverv may thus settle what had been 

But this inference *e*nis to be drawn 
position in which the tablet ^vaiJ foimd— "i 
extremity of a ridge of rock or natural pi 
totj, which rtms down to the i-"-;" r.f\ 
Frith of Forth.*' Now, nssuminp 
up or intended to be setup i't t 
have testimony on tlds point 
carved on the stone itself. I \-j 

into three portions. In the middle eoa 
acription * ia cut, x\t. : — 

• I hare given t!i 
Jaunujl nf the Ar-rhc 
a not, however, an ■ 
excellent photocrrnph 

litbcd bv A. H'alditf, uunt^i^'iw; t'nt IM »n*rt»p» 
do not oBTect the sense. 

Teb. :.. '71?.] 



ATG • PIO • P . P - LBO . II 
Lva . PKB • M • P - UIIDCLII 

feratori CsMri Tito jtEUo Hadriano Antonino 
So raiH pAtriiD Lefrio Secundu Au^pista per 
■uin iiUDCLii (4662) Tucit." 

I_v peculiarity in this inscriptinn, as coin- 
h otheM of the same kind found on tliB 
10 -wall, i.^ the po3itif>n of Pnu^ i. e. fecit. 
omea at the end; commonly it ia found 
or tho number of pnces. The com- 
uIa of each inscriptions '.vos, the names 
of tho emperor, and the number and 
the le^OQ or other body, followed by 

lIH feat per m. p. '" ; btit thia is 

rid^^. See lirilanno'Iioman Inacrtp- 
220-250, On the right (heraldic), a 
is ropresented galloping over four naked 
•at© Caledonians. Similar representa- 
often found on tho pmve^tonea of auxi- 
ry-soldiers; and in Horsley'a (No. ni.) 
on a tablet alao of the second legion 
Trhich was found on tho line of the 
a ecene is carved of a siraUBr charac- 
n^, however, in some particulnra, On 
a sacrificial scene ia represented, indi- 
I think, the coiupleUon of t!ie work, 
six figures of men, and three of victims 
0, viz. a bull, a ram, and a boar-pi^. 
, then, that a celebration of tho Snow 
represented. One of tho men, the 
figure, is pouring out a libation on an 
may, witli come reason, be regarded 
for Iy>lliu.s Urbicus. I'he figure with 
ipes represents the tiln'cfii, vrhn usunlly 
I a pair of ttbi/t durinj^ the sacrifice, 
feero (At^r, ii. 34), '' immolare hnstiaa 
pra-concm ot tibicinem " ; and Virgil 
103) — 

vlt quum {jlogiiis cbnr Tynrbenas ad ana." 

re fittinj; down may bo tho prerco or 

of the remaining three, one may bo tlic 

another the haruspcv or the leyatiis legi- 

\dit, and tho third, in the background, a 

i the legion. But, however tlio fi-rurea 

kentified, there can, I think,, be but liLllo 

in ' !i*? represents the celebration of 

^ 11 the completion of the work ; 

uiii'.* alio there was probably a lutiiraiio, 

, of the second legion. On tliis subject 

Wifficient to adduce the following ciu- 

i^AUi An}ali, p. clxvii.), " Oneria 

lustnim missum SiiovetauriUbna 

T/ivy (i. 44), " Censu porfecto . . . 

omnetn SuovetAurilibusliistravit." Tho 

e cutting of the stone was, iirobably. 

A.D. J. MCC. 

JOHN OAY, OF BARO, Nov. 20. 1624. 

Tha follo^ying letter is intercstinir, not only on 
account of tho reference to the dealings between 
the powerful favourite of James, whose fall was 
as unexpected as bis rise, and George lleriot, but 
because it indicates that, after his conviction and 
sentence, Somerset was not so much depressed in 
his fortunes as has been supposed. This auto^ 
graph letter ia a beautiful specimen of caHigraphy, 
and has a fine impression of tho earl's arms in 

Hay, the individual to whom it ia addressed, was 
one ol the contributors to the Musc'a welcomo to 
King James upon his visit to Edinburgh in 1017. 
lie was at one time Town Clerk, and afterwards 
ProToet of Edinburgh. lie became Lord Clerk 
Register, and afterwards, January 8, 103.3, au 
Extraordinary Lord of Session. 

On the promotion of Sir Robert Spottiswood 
to the Presidency, Ilay succeeded to nim as an 
Ordiuary Lord of Session January 7, 1044. Ha 
incurrea the dislike of his conntrvmon by advo- 
ciiting the introduction of tho service book. This 
obliged him to give up his situation and ta3(0 
refuge in Knglaud. He received an order for 
50(X)/. sterling on the Exchequer as a compensa- 
tion, and was knighted by Charles I., to whose 
fortunes he remtuned faitfiful, and very nearly 
lost his head for his loyalty. He. however, saved 
himself by bribing that worthy Saint tho Earl of 
Lanark. He died at Huddingston, near Edin- 
burgh, November 20,1054, Sir James Balfour, a 
Uerce Preabyterinn, colls him *' one corrupt, full of 
wickedness and villainio " ^see AnnaUf ii. 11)3) : — 
" Sir. 

" I am to make knoiren to yoo that thara is some 
CoutrovcKie likely to prow betwixt the Executors of 
M» fieorgc Ilcryut, his MaiestiKS late Jewi-Uer deccanedr 
ttiid mvaelft, abfjiit a pitwo of worke which 1 did some 
vcar* sinco intreotc him to make fur me, which in Ida 
life tvme I did oamcutly desire to Ret ont of his hands, 
A to' comt) to an aecompt irith him for, and spent a 
prent time in solHeiting him for that uarpoae, euer in- 
icncUng to pvo liim all rpMonable satiafnctloun of what- 
soever ahnuld upon a just at-eompt betwixt v«, rcmnins 
duo vnto him. But it bciug (partly by reason of bis 
ioHR iicknc*, tt iwirtlr vpon some other cAuso now too 
long to be relatwl) from timt^ to time deleytd, I am 
fniku into the hands of his cxucutyni, vuto whom I make 
this jiut and reasonable offer. M"" Hor>-ot had of mo for 
tho making up of the Bword, which I bespake of hiru, so 
monv diamondii, and »« much gold, as I conceived wonid 
goe nearc to finish it ; yet he added therevnto some atones 
of his owno, which, with the workmanship he euor told 
mc. he thciijiht wmild come to about 400 or 500^ : Now in 
liie nccompt which lie gi\ eth mo in of tho sword, he valued 
his stones und worUmannhipp at J<90. a proportion doubly 
exceeding that wliich I ever underBtood from him they 
were Hkclv to amount vnto. I am readie to sotesfie vnto 
M*" Uerj'oVfl Executors the full value of the things, but 
herein it ia not fitt that he Uimselfe or I should be our 
owne judges : I doc therefore make this offer, that tbft 



[*»* S. V. TtK 

•Cones pat in by M' Heiyot and the workraanshipp m^ 
be valoed by two persons of judgement in cfunmodtties 
of this natare lodiffereotly ctioaen betwixt vs, A what 
thCT sball Talne them at I will wiUinglv yeeld vnto, and 
make good payment. To this propoaition I finde the 
Executors loth to gire their assent, not because the}' 
hold it not reasonable, but because they say they are 
persona trusted for the disposing of the money set downe 
by M^^ Heryot to charitable vaes in the Citye of Eden- 
burgh; md ao cannot yeeld to an abatement without 
the oonsent of the Citixeos of that place. Which consent, 
that it may the more easily be obtained, I entreat you 
to represent vnto them the jnstneaof my offer; which I 
doubt not but they will so well approve as that, by their 
assent, a fHendly and speedy end may be made betwixt 
TS. This I denire out of the love I bearc to that noble 
Citye (tf my Countrey : for whose sake I will rather buy 
Uiat I haue bespoken (and hane bene thus long without) 
at a deare rate (so it be not too deare^ then enter into any 
contestacion about it. So, committmg the whole busv- 
nes to yonr approued care and discretion, and entreating 
tiuit, so aoone aa conraniently may be, I may heare from 
you and receive your answere, l commit yoa to Gods 
protection and rest euer 

To' assured loving freind, 





** To my much respected 
Freind U' John Hay, 
(Tomraiasioner for the Citye 
of Edenbutgh, these be.** 

How thu controversy was settled h$a sot been 


As the promoters of the Permissive Bill eivi- 
dently purpose renewing operations in the forth- 
coming session of Parliament, and many of their 
sympathisers are doubtless contributors to the 
columns of " N. & Q.," it may not be thought 
amiss to find a comer for the literal reproduction 
of the "elegiac broadside " alluded to in "N.&Q." 
for January 15. H. F. T. 


" Begon, thou Soul-confounding Drink, begon 
Hlxt with CbcjrcKi, Stixj and ^cAeroH. 
Infernal Juice, thy cursed Nature's such 
Aft none can safely drink thee, but the D*Uch. 
The rlamned Villain, that with murth'rinc Knife 
Would kill his Parents, Children, and his Wife, 
Let htm drink thee; thou can*8t inflame his heart. 
And make him to tho life act Phto's part. 
Thin cynoratcs tho heart, consumrs the brains. 
And runs like wlUl-tlre through the burning Veins. 
Where lives so wise a mortal as can tell 
ITuw many men have drank their Souls to Hell 
With this accursed drink ? whus*e drunk with this, 
Endangers losing of Eternal BUm. 
This damned Liquor bath been dmnk by some 
Till httlUsh Flames out of their mouthce have come. 
Ue that witli Brandy fills his wretched Pate, 
All Crimea, all ViUanloa may perpetrate, 
Soul-alnklng Oaths, most horrid Imprecations 
And Curssi^ snob as if their own Damnations 

They thought too lon^ deferr'd, fly from the ti 
Of Brandy Drinkera, in skv-scaUniP Notes. 
The Stomach this debauches, and does spt^ 
By roasting that, that should but gently bt^l 
The Vital spirits this contaminates 
And Moj-sture radical irradicates. 
They need no Tombs, whom this fierce Venim 
Their Monuments are in the mortal Bills. 
Who wisely leave it, having Known it wdl. 
Say Brandy is the Halfe-way- House to HelL 
Who with this mortal Drink deui drank have 
Before they went from hence, had Hell witfaii 
Who would himself, his Friends and God foip 
Let him drink thee till he b^ns to sweat. 
Who writes in praise of thee, when his hand's 
Shall write a Poem in the praise <tf %n : 
Yea if he will bo ao extreamly oril, 
His next shall be Encowumu of the DeriL 
What say you now, you that can praise and n 
The loathsome nature of a drink so Hellish ? 
Do yon to this warm plaeoe your sdvea imm 
That yoa Hell's Flames the 1>etter may endnn 
Let WaBrrook warn yon and [another honae] 
Where latelr some sad mortals did Carooae. 
Brandy, and Death, irith many many more 
That might be reckon'd on thia fatal score. 
O ^erefore leave betimes, and nerer think 
To orercome such overcoming Drink. 
Ther's Death it'h Pot, tempt him not out, let I 
That slight their timely cantima, m\aA this d 
Drink on bold Brandy Homicides, drink on 
TiU your Health, Wealth, Rqmie and Lms ai 

" Here Ives one dead, by Brandy's mighty Powi 
Who the last quarter of the laat flown honr, 
As to bis Health and Siremff^ was sound nd 
Repentance had no room, and who can tdl 
Whether his Soul be |^ne to Heaven or Hell? 

" London : Printed for R, P. 1675." 


I possess the Bible and Prayer-Book 
famous antiquary Humphrey Wanley, the 
of the edition printed by Robert Barker 
doxXf 1634, 6ro), and the latter of A 
1635, printed by the same printer. Hi 
bound together, the margins carefully mle 
red inkj and are beautiful copies of those ed 
On the back of the title-page of the New 
ment Humphrey has entered in his pee 
neat handwriting the following notices aai 
relating to the members of his family; 
some of them were apparently unknown 
biographers, I hare thought it desirable i 
serve them in " N. & Q." I give them a 
as they occur : — 
"Xathanifl Wanley, S«n\ baptizd March 27, 1' 
*' Samuel Wanlev, son of Nath. was bora oo t 
day, G'h of Jan', 1657, betwixt two & S in the afti 
(lie died — , 1666.) 

** Ellen \\'anley, daughter to Kath. was benw 
day the 13 of June, 166S^ within a quarter of thia 




, «on 10 'Stth. Uome Wednesday lioftirc 
one o'clock in llm niiiriiir.^', Itii^l. He 
r, 1G83, and wu tmrivil in 8' Sepulcbre^s 

'uilcj, daughter to Nath. bomo Octob' 
«leveu an« twulvc of tbe Jay, 10^7. 
» Wanlcy, Sun to J?nth, borne Murch 21. 
Kick at nooiie. Mr. Uuniphrey Rurton and 
■ were my Godfather*, and my Lady Norton 
1^, being DapUid Che tenth uf April fuUow- 

tolher» M" Ellon Wanlev, hcreiuider men- 
I in the Lord 28 Juut-,' 1719. in the 88'^ 

fied to M" Anna Bcrenclow (whose Grantt- 
n »^« '1- -■- ^(jc Js uid to have been n 
by Mr. WUUara Ebtoh, in th« 
u i:*. 1 May, 1705. 

^i-y. Suu'.and l'lllcn,niarr>'ed Joly 24, U>55, 

K\A borne Monday, AprifSO*, 1G32, about 
oniing, uTid was baptized 11 of Mav fol* 
mod Itag^ her Godfather, M" V.ll«n 
r.andmuUier-in-)aw) and Kf^* Elizabeth 

WaiJer, aon to the above written Hura- 

and ADna* Widdow of M'^ Bcmur<l Mania 

ter to Ttiomofl Itunrcliier of Newcastle- 

~. and TVmtby Whitrifld, duutfhter of — 

~ ■ ra> January 9, 

r ill ttieChurcb 

u. ■ 1 . :.. , \. 

ffltf Jaiy, I7i.'y, at thrw quarter* past II in 

■T ^Vife was deliver'd of a ilead infant Iwy. 

slher ton, liy my uid Wife, who died soon 

I and WW abo^ I think, baried in S' Hnr- 


DOi 10 ^ 1 1 in the forenoon, my dear Wlf»?, 
iienrletta Slre^t, CoTcnt Onnlcn, was piid- 
Irr an At>opIeclic At, and ber breath left hur 
"tbe nejt Morning." 

Jis. Crosslet. 

If this is his notion, I venture to remind him 
that " Lord" (with tho one exception where it 
I (figuili^s a titlti pertaining to the peerage) simply 
I impliea euprcinac^' over certain othen who stiinci 
in iutiiuate relatiouship towards the person so 
designated. So, be{fiuniug with Divinity, Juhnsoa 
^ves instances of its application to all sorts of 
ranks and classes: to ** a ruler" (Mil^:)n,Dryden), 
"a master" (Shakspeare), " an oppressive tyrant" 
(Hnvwurd), ''a husband" (Pope), '*one at the 
head of any busineas" (Tu8.-»er). Accordingly, 
tho Mayor of London, &b chief of all the mayors 
of Knglondj is " tho iMrd J[ayor " ; the lord of a 
luauor" is the head of bia manor, receiving hom- 
age from his tenants ; the " hrd mesne " is the 
owner of a inauor, who, holding under a iwd para- 
mount, yet has freehold tenants under him. And, 
to revert to the judicial bench, while every puisne 
judKOt addreseing himself to the bar, refers to his 
chief as ''my Lord," the bar itself properly 
gives the same style and dignity to all the judges 
alike as " lords " lu relation to it It would surolj 
bo OS absurd to speak of tho First Lord of the 
Treasury an *' Zort/ Gladstone," or of a Lord Chau- 
ct^llor, before his patent of peerage i» made out, 
as " Lord Smith, ' or the Lord Bishop (over- 
Bcer) of London as ^'Zord Jackson,** as of the 
Lord Chief Justice of England (Ills proper title 
by the by) as " Lord " thi's or that The truth 
is, in fact, that it is thi>i wurd "chief" which is 
superfluous and redundant — a discovery which 
nimk'ni progress has acted upon by difipftniuug 
with it in the coses of the judges of the supremo 
court in Chancery. It is not often that 7%! Times 
mokes sach gross blunder?. R. C. L. 



'whm' review (Jonuftry 15) of Sir 

ockbuxa'a work on ''Nalionality," the 

oa tbe score of economy uf peu and 

Uige from an old custom by which 

jud^ would have been called ** Lord 

Wjiat single authority has he for 

such a custom ever existed ? Oer- 

tnot appear once all through the State 

rin the case of '* chiefs " or " puisnea." 

means that it osed to extend to the ' 

or to all the judges alike, as on tho 

h to-day (thotig^ there the adoption 

name is the exception and not the 

ot know. I cannot help thinking, 

t the reviewer is fcubstitutin^ ** logic 

led ' for memory, and ossummg that 

ord " Lord " stands ti.rst in the title 

Chief Justice '' may, in common par- 

ooably omitted, in the same way as 

ion (loosely and improperly) one 

i.*ars Lord A. B. and Lady'C. D. 

B. and Lady D. respectively. 


The following is the title of a new work which 
will be found of conaiderable interest to beU- 
orchteologists and others : — 

" Inventories of the Goodfi and Ornaments in the 
Churches of Sorrc^. in the R«ign of King Edward the 
8ixlh. Reprinted from the Surrey Archaeolofcical Oil- 
leclioos. Communicated by .Tohn Uobort Damtd-TyHSD, 
V.SM Loudon: Wymaa& Sou. 1M9.'* 

In the course of some introductory remai^ 
Mr. Tyssen says : — 

** nine bookff or pnblin reports and commiAsions being 
rather roluminoua and tediuua to wade through, I have 
thought it deslrAblo to put my readenin pooowrioa of the 
authority nnder which tho Commlanonen aeted for carnr- 
ing into effect the dirertiouit uf the Crown relating to the 
InventoriesofCtiurch Guod<t. I have therefore given in full, 
from the Seventh Report, copic!) of two of the commlMiona 
fotind upon the Patent RoUa {"together with an extract 
from one of the original! remaming in the Kxcheqncr), 
Those instrameota will show the objects and powers of 
the CommiiHiooers, and thus serve as a guide to the 
kind of information which ia to be expected from the 


Mij^'!iii)i'<iuERitel _ _ tm 

■ OoncrrfiiTij? th** natiirrt of theao'^cliurrfi goods 
tod oruntne»t«," tHo jiiilhor nb^-rres t — 

, , V* By Uie coaatittttion of Sin li'p of C«n(cr- 

haicy (\%S), nmont; otbrr t! s dirocled tlmt 

tlie OralxiaiT .«T)nti!rlftefr(hBt *fteli (».»ri*h I»;idin iti dliiirch, 
tend ktpt io fcvj)?!* repair, the foUuwiog D?utt«9«rks •.— 

Legend. Lantfan. 

ri:^ fut the F.uuliarUL 





' - tHuulMl. ond bctlj in\>e\~ 
1>rith{ . frr, tvitU <:ot*J^ to Ltto 


Pif r fur Uid Jcid. 

Uifr. ■■--■: I 


r Stoup, 

Y ant with luck- 

rriiiLiphl imlq,'c» til maa- 

cbASuble, d^liDjitio. tunic. 
'. cope fgf diuir. wiiii tbuir 

Prouliil to thb RTcnt :!i 
*- with thrw tnw«!?, 
"'n»r«' suTplii-va, 

Out roi?h<)t. 
c J'rotft.'isioiial cro-o. 
-Crpss for fuacrab. 

,11'jiii ■ . . .'...■ 

BttM/IUii) tistt" Mr. Tywcn go&f on to uy. *' iriU accoant 

^^^iflftf'-e :rvr;it v.nriitv .iii'I niniilj-r cf l!if ufnnuicfoM ftnd 
•. furii strvT^B <»f Ibo 

i''pflri5oii \M\n Til"' T-'urris n^rii itn.'iiiyi, i be ddiciestiics 'Of 
ifrTnrtny oflJwi patl*\\es," 

Wa Qoldcu SqpVDe. 

....-.,. ,11 .,1 ..!,-, ,, _^ , 

Statuks oif Eabtkr isrjiKD.— The Bml^cr baft 

been lately drawrn;rTittPTrtinfn to thepe remnrfcable 

^ ,preducUop3, two of whicli hay^ f mnd their way 

I into, t)ie Brilitfli Museum. Fivim a pimei* reftd 

S tWfor^ i,tlie GtiogTupliicul Socluty W Mr. J. L. 

p[ Piuiaor, B.N-^ of il.M/fl i-hjp Tu^iiz, it «jipopni 

^tba^ utLf«t@ in tlie PaciHc^ this vslnnd— ttm lu- 

' id>it«iiU'of whic\ 000 in iiamTjoT, Tiftvo a tin- 

dition of their iinmiprAlion froDi Opara^it 200(1 

■ milea dUtant Irom the coaet of S. America ftud 

- iOOO from the newo&t Polyncftuiu ittUnds to the 

west. Ciiriijfiily U nftturaUy (iXi'.it(^d as to who 

• aeulplured the iranges now 0Ni:3tijQg iu vnriou.') 

parta of thy itland. Mr. Pdliner etatea tlint the 

i> inbftbitaiitH are utterly ifruorant in the matter, 

,t but gives kU opinion that they we probably the 

i prodnotion of a race lou^ ainco paa&ed away. In 

.. yVw BuiUler for Jan, 1 u on excellent view " of 

V. part of the ialnnd with its growth of statue* . , . 

-i aO ft, 30 ft., and, in at least one case, 50 ft. hi^h, 

• aome of theiu atanding on long platforms of Cyclo- 

\ pom mwonry." latereat in the discovery is con- 

ttderably heightened when wo nre told that the 

crofwDB, formed from the red tufa yielded by the 

cratoEB, an) aometlmes ft. high and 5 ft. in 

diameter, and that thoy mufit have been placed 

on the statues after their erection. II. F. T. 

Dftlrymplv, Lor.i 
c«WhrRt*'d" Adiliu./;. 
the title and diguitv 
prcaontcd to tho llDU-=?e oi Lu. 
diims — she bvin^ oo^ of ibom— 1 
day, amon^r other pnpers, a 
letter from him to the e^iuft!: 
aud thiiilin^ that £ucli id \><jxl 
^ervt'd in the columoa of *^N. 
subjoin tho s^ipo j-V ,. 

„'.,' ■'■ ,'•ycw^J': 

'• Utivcrtiitl Sir.— t nm ?*lft.T tliiir it ; 
pow(^r tp f I' 
ciipy of the 

** That trtict liB« become i 

ai".'iil-'iir. — a lti'iiI junnlx-r (rr" , 

from ^vx'rinii'i. !>- i \< > 
iMtilogbi of bi)ok«. bm f- 
cour4fce.t« O0I1I" .ld W t'. 

"I'nif. St' 
allows I me, 1 

was nrintt'*! btfure tliu rc-it of tfcp ' 
.'^onkl Pr. b, think it worih his li\l 
truHt him #ith my owii ' v^A 

£in«VMQt<^H i*"' lUU Jt' ''» 

trnnscrihe tliem iind coiiniMn.i' '' 

"1 ba\^ IndidcnlatlY nitt i*^ 
ray hypo'bcsis, aerviij;; to ■- . ■ 

met "ffiUi anyUiins t" > 

Mtcve that \\'t\ tho whol ' 

The Coott wliitrh gave jiiiiL;[.iiiii mii.n.... viiii 
Af Sirlhtrrlor.l wont upnn littie oottattnii cnN 
I ever am, witli gmicMeem, 

■This remarkable peeVw!?" CA.'ie of 
oppoeed by Sir Itob- 
who claimed to b« tt; 
'' brief lor connwl " io uov\ 
mora 80 than that of t-h« " 


JThoxis Gu>uui; 

Thk Perl Castlb Beal.^-Iii liwa 
Currency oftJm Ido nf Mnn by Dr. CU] 
chrster, printed for the Manx Soci* 
eovcnteenth volume of their pnhlicalic 
pp. 105-y) is a description of o w-ci 
which ho looha nnan as a great T»rit 
which a pbotograpli ia i^iven. T 
belies it to be a seal, but after 
can learn nothing about it or n 

This i» not a aeal, but one of 
on the occasion of a fancy fair held iu 1' 
iu 185f> to raise a fund in order to pren 
ruins from further decay, and nf whi- 
ffreat number were sold. If Dr. Cbv li* 
to the High Bailiff of Peel with a' 



' iit'd tno liiatory of 

hftA fnllea iii'co, 

nt b€ 

nifiyuATB.** — 1 dp not kno^T 

h"-' inquired for the orijiii of 

ioD. but I confess thnt it w 

_. it) b*3en ablo to diacover the 

> b it is tfUtuii; aud m Bomo of 

. b« equiUly ignuraat i\a I was, 1 

from Cicero (/Vo i'. 6V.rf. c;, 45) 

■ I: •* W qnod pst -pT'cstanri^.sr- 

l"ft nt "wimi* lenMh. Tli© ooly 
hare em- 

i i^-V- i,L V'.'jj uui putjubiy yUiers way bo fihowa 
to fa»Te fkue eo : — 

- ' ' ■ who (trrmns in Rbai'.M liluc tlwM; 
• Lir with an ape of oibo I '' 

CRArFtrau Tait KAyAOB. 

rru>o»Ti»K—Jl ought, I think, to bd 

ilKjok Acconnt of Ueoi*™ a 

. af»'N. itQ-'^for Jan. 15, 

p, v^, cvuuuiis awoijwIwawUciijatiqu pf the 


"h V ,u. n 



*liKOMGLE. '; -, i' 

- n of this work for the eeries 

■ "vmof the Mofltor nf the 

to moite myself ac- 

-,-. , .. ..^ .... .... .-..o. which are accessihlti. 

ftttovrtbgf ' 19 fl list o£ those which I know of 

K_ ..1 . 


Uritiib Mtt»cum, 

• t.ridte. 

■ all. Cambridge. 

i-iit iludleiAii Lilir. ttmoug the 

'Iifl JVii^cian Ubmn*. 

irred to ia tht« linwUiwon 
^ij ^"f b (J6C llcntne'a prvfacu 


V:i liohtH of Ghucvstn; p. X.) In r Inttnr from 
Jybn ^Viifltii 1o ileumo ( Hawlinson MiSS. I'J, .44), 
dated Nor, 24, 1 7 io^ another ]^IS. ii) lueuiiouedAI 
jjeing , in the Inuer T^uiple Lihrarv, but I aai 
iink*SU)d to the kinjuesa ot Air. ftfartin, the librae 
rion, for the ftCoruiutloo thut this is a xdi&tal(fiC 
Ther* are, however, two M.Sti, which I hava htsea 
unable to trace. One <tf these waa formerly ia 
the pOMesftioBof Jnhn Stow the antiq : ■- ' • 1 
is mentioned by Comdon in hi« Jten^ 
1605) in tho Chapter on Surnames, i .^ui,....-o 
this MS. to he the same wiih that quoted in the 
tiret chapter of the ,tiamu work ^a it appvara ia 
later editiuuA, Tho other MS. waa formttrly iQ 
the posKe^on of Thomas Allen, of (.Jloucester 
Hall; and waa lost sight of in Heariw'a tiiue. 
(See hifi Trof. p. Ixxii-lxjfir.) It is qu(n«d by 
Selden ia hia Uutory iff Tt/thr.t, p. 500, ed. 11518, 
and paaBifigea from it aro given in Ueame's Ap- 
pendix; pTi, CIO, Gil, fivini aama notes In a 
•* modem '^ hand in tho Cotton MS, Thie '* jbbp- 
dera " Uund Mr. Bond has identified with Seldetn*8. 
1 6h^U be glad to l>e informed whether th^ae 
two or any other MSS. of Kobert of Gloucester 
are to be found in any privale coUecUona. ISelden, 
except in the instance roforred to; always quotes 
frofii the Cotton MS. j Weever {Aiic. fun. Man. 
pwAim) invariably uses the M.S. iu the Heralds' 
CJiiliege; and Wood {Hid, nml AmL of Oj/orJj 
ed. Gutch, i. 204) quoU^a the Cotton MS. TlwM 
are the only aiitHora, ao for us I am aware, in 
which any oriyinal quotations fixmi the poaiu are 
to bo found before it wrifrpriDt«d by Ileame. 

^VILUAM Alois 'Wrioht. 

Axi, Dey. — Who waa tliis ofllcer^ whose nirfuo 
;apneaiii;- aa a lieuteqaut lu the Axix^v Liatv for 
lt>0*-5 iu tho 85(h foot,t1iWi serving jn JatttaS<ii? 
It isj r b.lTove, the ontv iustiince of thA thlo 
•' Dty " in Ih^ fUta of the British niTjiy 

or nflivy. KyqiriffftB- 

/ EJilntt' AiTO*RiTjiBvo.-i-l hnvarecehtly'imet 
"with a flmhH alto-riDevb pawe! in -plaiater; t«pte- 
aunting on one side a carpenter worfiing aft a 
table, over which nro hung' tiomptuis«« and other 
ins-trumeuta of hia trade; and on the other,' a 
female' seated beneath a curtnin, and holding a 
scroll in her" hand. Between them is a child, 
app<lrertt!y also .'nL-tt-L-d iu oarppnter'a worlc,^«nd 
over hiinnn i» >aiup htnisolf to (heiittL 

llie prc£i«?nc«' I would eecm t:l exoU^de 

the proballhtv of ita depicting im angflio, vx«Ua- 
tion to JotiOpli, even if there were AitythiDgr to 
C(^)nnect it with the idea of a dream. Ia there any 
scriptural or ecclesiastical legend which it may 
be 8up}>o.«ed to represent? I may add that, not- 
withstanding it« ^enahablo material, it bears tho 
marka of some Anuq,uity. C. W. UrNGaut. 



i^S.V. Fk».B, 

Joint \fiQrhh.—Crm you or any of your readers 
inform mo where I can find and bti permitted to 
9ee ft MS. qtioled ia tho liiot/rrtfthin TirUrmnifn 
entitM " MS. Memoirs of tbo'Lifeof Mr. .\*4JfUl, 
by his intimate friend Mr. A. y.?^ C. li. C. 

Catholic Version of 3 Caaox. xxui. 22. — 
The Anglican Tersion of this text ends with ''and 
guided them on every side," which very well 
repreaents the Hebrew. The Latiu Vulgate, which 
SBoms to have followed a various rending, Uaa 
"et prieatllit el quietem per circoitum/' The 
Douay Bible renders it " and gave them rest 
round about," following the reading eia and not 
ei. An American edition of the Douay oa revised 
by Dr. Ch&Uoner (Philadelphin, 1824), read? " and 
gftvo them treaifurM on every side." I should 
like to know the reason for this wonderful distor- 
tion of the Vulgate and old Uouav in this pos- 
•age. " B. U. C. 

CoANGrarr THB FnwT Les«oit vx the CnrBcn 
Serficb.— Some years ago I heard a Church dig- 
nitary state that it wa:j legitimate to alter the 
first lesson for the day, but not to change the 
second lesson. lie said he could not give tbe 
authority for it, but that he always understood 
it to be lawful. To my surprise I have just 
diflcovored that the dignitAry was right, for on 
looking 'over the homilies appointed to be read in 
chnrcheA I find the following direction in "An 
Admonition to all Ministers Ecclesiofltical " pre- 
fixed to tho second tome of Homiliet : — 

" Where it may m chance .inmc one or other chapter 
f>f llie 01)1 Tt^tfttiieiit tu fall in ordvr to be rvad upon the 
Sundnys or holydnys which were l^ittpr lo be clinnectl 
with ftome other of the New Testament of more cJitica- Khali lie wtU <lone lo spend vour time to consider 
well of such chnplora beforehand, whereby your pnid«^iic« 
and dilii^nco in your nffioe mny uppcuK-^) (bat your 
people may have cauM to glnrirr (lod for you and In' the 
rcAiiitT to embrace your laltcturs, to ytmr b^ttrr mm- 
meiidation,t« the diJKharge of yoor cooedeucca and theJr 

The first and second lesson?, therefore, may be 
from the New Testament; one by appointment 
of the Church, and the other at the option of tbe 
minister. Aa it is proposed that *' a hotter selec- 
tion of 8crtpture Icseona " should form one of the 
subjeeta for debato in the next teFsion of convoca- 
tifm, "thift admuuition '' may have tbe effect of 
shortening their labours or give convocation a 
hint tf> improve on. GkoRoe LLOi'D. 

Crook, CO. Durham. 

Clak Tartai^s. — What are the be(.t authori- 
ties with regard to the history and di»tinrtive 
character of the Scotch tartans P The publica- 
tion of Macleay fl mngnifiurnt work has jriven 
additionnl interest to all that nuport.iins to Celtic 
c<istume, but where may tbe " It-giil evidents " be 

r* Tbi«manuftcripl wa:i inquirul after bv Mn. Jamkm 
CttoasLKr in " N. & Q." 1" S, vi. 3.— En.] ' 

found aa to " who's who," aaul tfae> rights 
which each man may lay claim, if not to 
cut, at least to the ci)lour of liie coat — kilta 
course included ? In other words, are 
shades of tartans more or le.'^s subtle in tb< 
tinctions, with which the market is fli 
really nncieut or couipnratively modern 
Where shall we find the oni/oim of the 
and know what is rcnUy historicil from that^ 
id due to the invmtice rjaiiu* of n lateirl 
Perhaps, however, in the ahflence of Ut^anry 
menta, the whole subject must bo loohed 
'* prehistoric." Is there any tnrtan remolded tf ' 
identified with the name of MacUdlnu, ortb4_ 
pi>sse68ion8 of this acpt lie too far soalh 
them a place amongst their Celtic brethren] 

DRtTRT Axn CAr.Trronrr a-**-^:- 
John Cullum'it y/M^>ry o/'i/ 
and Gage's SuffoUc^ Sir Uu:.,. .;.i... 
stead married Anno, daughter of Sir 
Calthorpe. Can any reader of " N. & Q." ii 
mo which Sir William Calthorpe this waa? 
iind two mentioned by Plnyfair, but wh< 
either of them^ or if so which, wns father of. 
Calthorpe, I am unable to determine. Thaj 
riage took place prior to Sept 12, 21 Edi ~ 


Coi.u>Qirn!B OF ERASinrs. — I 6nd a 
thumbed copy of the Colfotptifs of Eraamm^ 
which my fatber. in t1i«.* hitter port of 
eighteenth century, learued tbe elemitnts of ' 
Latia tongue. The Lalinity of KnL«ini!-^ is fcni 
rally considered good, and seems more suitable 
an elementary book than Ovid and the cl 
authors generally used. Sonlhey ha* 
question in the pages of the hoclvr. 
is it since this classof books has been di 
in our schools? Tnoxi^s £. Wiirsi9< 

Statitk op JiJflnfl Tl — Can any of \ " 
country corre&pondenU inform mo i 
stntuQ of Kinjr Jfimos IT. at Newcjisue, 
(according to Mucnulay's lii^ort/, cbap. 
thrown into the Tyne, has ever been r^c^ 
and if so, where it is at the present Uok- * 

W. !!' "--^ 

Mabtix Lutbeb. — I have net w 
lowing paatMige ascribed to Martin Luiti»-r^ 

"Qui vcrslones t.intnm nonint,.iliomm oraU»^ 

cum ptebe in atriis utmitr- ' ■ - — - ■ 

Qui vero ip«iim textum ■ 

iltitibu<! in SAnctnarium U' • 

Imlibu^ a^uniur ip4e tc.^tu c-^t ci jtii.ii.t. llinr 

exiguA «it mea lingun? Hvl>nva$ noririn rum vmn 

lanifD totiu« mundi gazU n<>n cvnimut«n>D(." 

Can any of your ctNTc^uondents do me tbofiv 
of informing me where tao passage oocnnP 




**Madavb »b Malqttbt" — lo 1S48 there was 
vabliMbcd. iu ihtea volumes^ by Aleaara. Lonfrman 
3t ^ rr 4:ixoMU('nt novel under ibia not very 

BV if. It ]>nf)jse6«cs ^ivnt int-rit, nnd iiA 

fitijjir) . ' • n ducibive proof of ihe vitiated 

tuto c>t mi to works of Oction. 

Anou... .-., L-r-oring the nume of Jrmf'n^A'mi, 
WM pubHshed ftboiit til** prime lime, nUo in thrt'c 
ir.ilnm. ■; It IV,. •'. 11 \v<fd hynnother novel called 
/' h interi'*ting to a certain 

I - - pn'dfrefis*)r. 

)r' f;iven at to tlio aiilbors 
■ wa** a pt'ijond Jemiufffutnij 
\mt at iiuie merit. J. M. 

^' /io!f, — lA»t mo n«k the ntteotion nf 

■ In the foUowiup sijiitcnre of .Torome 
II, Isaifth. In 

1^1 Itna or Sobna, tho Scribe, tbo 

prvrccc or prrr-positus of the temple, that father 
|{TTc9 na a piece oT ioformation ae to n JowibIi 
tniiUoa, vbich aeetns to bear materially upon 
tii« topography of the Holy City : — 

"Qiiu:: :") truluqt B«bratti, Rnbucix coinmi- 

WftSaB* tredidisu mtnus Auyrila. ct infe- 

f<A»»w ^co/na lilverMrJU prodi(li6Ae. Kxce|>- 

U' t et totnplo nihil uliud retnuuieBe quod dod 

I wUh to aak one or two queationa in connection 
with this passage : — 

1. U Ihia Jewiith tradition still nxtant in any 

fivm? II ii'u, where, and wbat ore the exact 

voris ? Jerome ia not referring- to Jost-phus ; for 

tliiU hi-fr-nan does not relate any such treacliery. 

it mean that ** the lower city/' or 

! toe/' OS Jo«ephuit caLla it, wad given 

\>^syriftn9, while Zion and the temple 

- d in the hands of the Jews? 

Z. Wii^re wna the camp of the A«8Trians? 

Joirphua aavs thut it was within the third or 

notxotwt wall of the city; telling iih that TiluH, 

ahRrhe hnd takm that wall and that pnrl of the 

II that spot, i.e. somewhere 

'\\?f from wbich he poured 

■Ml wall and second city. ( fK/rrs 

eh. vii.aecl. 2). Here the barjinin 

>-ii;u^eh and Shebua as to the sur- 

lower city mujst have taken place. 

I ■'— :\ims me:ui bv " the citadel" 

-agea: — " l»ftvid took the 

ii il^fv ciVflrf**/ hold out still 

■ . round tbe lower citv ; 

k»i! it." (.iji/. viL3, 2). 

' ' \i ii containii the uppor 

liuply it was called tbe 

; Mvid ; but ii is bv U8 calK'd (he 

'■ u-tf." (Rarf, V. '!, n. Then, 

'it. ; •' the tippa- n- ." he 

t, ' liiil WM cailud ' ! i^taina 

loWU C3tjf." {ih,) 

5. Doea not Josephiis apeak of two^^Arflw, quite 
(lifltinct the one from the other — the one a hillj tho 
other nf(fjirM» f 

6. Is not Jerome's " inferior para Hieruanlem " 
the same as Josephus'a "other hill culled Akra 
which snstaJtiR tho fowor city," and to be diatiu* 
g-uisbed from Xion. which Jerome t^'Us us did not 
paae into the hands of the Assyrians f 

Visio Pacib. 

John NicoLt^ D.D,— Was the portrait of thia 
celebrated head nifwter of West minster piunted — 
aa Dean StXLnl-^y afHnn.i in bi:^ moflt intoresun^ 
book, MemoriaU of }Vt.\iinin.<r.i' Ahhni, iirst edi- 
tion, p. 473 — by Sir Joghuu Keynoldfl • Why the 
I)caQ should call him Nict^/^. and Macnulay, in 
his essay on Warren Hastings, 'SichoU^ it seems 
dtlhcult to ascertain. A wrung date, tuu, is as- 
signed, on tbe same page of the Dean's book, aa 
the period of his head mastership, bamely, from 
1733 to 178<S. He was second or under master 
from 1714 to 1733, when he became head master, 
and resigned in 1763, when he was succeeded by 
WMlliani ^[a^kham, afterward-s Archbiahop of 
York. In a scarce volume in my poAaeasioD, the 
Latin poems of Antony Alaop— are two copies of 
Sapphics addressed to John Nicoll, who is styled 
in tbo index, " tunc tomporis H}'podidaficala8 
Schol^ Westmonasteriengis, nunc ejusdem Archi- 
didascalus" (i.e. 1752.) .Many years tiffo I also 
owned a fine mexzotint engraving of him, repre- 
senting: a three-quarter fi;?ure, and underneath 
wai a Latin inscnptioa to the effect that ho had 
been for twenty reara head master, and was then 
a prebendary of Westminster. 

Jomr PicKPOBD, M.A. 

Boltoa Ferc}', near Tadcaster, 

Oatkn Pipes, etc. — Thia expression is very 
common in the Kn|;lish poets, espedally about 
the soveuteemh Century. *)f course it is taken 
from Virgil's avena ; but is there any authority 
for supposing that shepherds* pip»ij» were really 
ever made of tnU^^'awi — a suppiwitiou whicL 
seems to be taken for granted by the commentft- 
tors, but against which commua aonae ftppoAis to 
revolt ? C. S. J. 

PnnvKRn : — " The better the day the better the 

What is tbe origin of this familiar proverb P I 
would ask its meaning also, if 1 could conceive it 
possible that it ha^ any foundation whatever in 
common eense. It has (*uch a rhythmical and 
plausible look about it that it is not until one 
tiegine suddenly to wonder in what conceivable 
case it can be'true that the absurdity becomes 
striking. U. 0. L. 

Sir Edward RicHiBDSOX. — In the town of 
Huckingbam xb a ninnpiou called Fowler? and Lara- 
barde from twu families who successively pos- 
•eased it. William Lambard or Lambert sncceeded 




to Uiia property in 101); Biil)s«qiieotly his 'Wtflft, 
uftor his dwflRSP, nmrried Sir Kdward Kicbard^fm, 
luid while in hi.-* occupbtioo t]ji.-iiQf\nMon wiip for a 
fo'.v Uavfl the roeiiience of King Clmrles I. in the 
yojir 1014. Can nny of your readere afford iofor* 
matiou respuctiitir 'Sir EdwarU Kichardsoi), his 
uucL'stry, or hU desceodauta f i IkOi'ttsu. 

Th£ Sanoukal, or Holy Giieal (4* S. v. 20, 
135.) — I flhould be glad to be informed by iinynuo 
who tftUes an intei'est in such matters, aa to whnt 
authority exists) tu jiwlify Mr. Teinijsoa in hw 
division of the old word StiUijreaK Mr, Tennyson 
is a man who ought to be much bcltfr informed 
«l>out such matters than 1 am, but T feel con- 
vinced that this division of the syllftbleii Uwron^. 
Keason and common sense supfreat another divi- 
sion. Sang ia blood ; real {ei(k Hamilton's /VmcA 
JActionmy) i» n good old French word, moRning 
" real or royar" 

l'os«ibly Mr. TenaysoD can produce good au- 
thority from the old chronicles of Arthur for the 
JJoiy-Greal, <Snn may of course be short for 
santo ; but what U a Great ? IIbxkt LuLrniM. 

Oxford aad CnnibriOge Club. 

'* ScBEw." — What is thedcavMion of the term 
acretv, meaning an avArici<?M3 and hard-hearted 
person? . . i. i.' i . J. W.W. 

rin «\.& Q." ««> S.-Jf^ &35fVna extract from Nim- 
rofl's TJuntih'j Tufir, l82/>, w given, in wliich it is Miil 
tlitit *' n lame or v«rv UaJ horse te calltd a nrimr.*'— Ro, 

Swap, or Nai% Afl a Tj:iiiiT>-ATTOK. — In 
the hundred of .-Vmoundempsa, co. of LnccMtei', 
artt many places with tbia termination — as Fair- 
enapB, l]ullt>D(i|>, Kidsnapo, itc. Cftu any trorre- 
spondent suggest a meaning^ The places bav^ 
been known by the«e namw sinc^ the time of 
Henry VHI. H. FiSHwrnt. 

Sroi.Ks o>" Altars,— Can any of vour reader-, 
point out the authority for the so-caUed "stole?" 
with which our altars are beginning to bo de- 
corated? Something like them appeal's on &onio 
paintings — e. g. the (ihent " Aaoration of tho 
Lamb," but I do not rejuember eyeif finding them 
alluded to by any old writer. Snaix. 

JoiiN Stow. — Will any reader of " N. & Q." 
inform mo if anyil'""" 1..- known of the drscend- 
nnts of John St. -irian; what sons ho 

had, and wlio hi^ ..< u.ftrritfd ? Also, the 

name of .Tobn Stows btothcr, wlio accused him 
upon one linn^lrtHl and forty chat-gcs ou wrong 
religious opinioa»? Abo tiio dn'.e of /h4 death Y 

XL A. J3AlNBIUt»^K. 

24, Tliasell XUsi^, [Counu;$tAn. 

STiLv^raKWAYs Halt., Masciif.stke, — Can any 
of th*j rt'ttders of •* X- & Q." say if tlicm ia known 
to be nny drawinor or print of the above, and 
wheru it <-;ui be m;e«f' E. 3iQftTQX« 

The VUUi Multoo. . . 

Vrbokica. — ^MftT'I Aak the deriTat^on of 
uieaaa applied to uie plant ^peedwel] f 

Maoken/.le K. C, WAL€L*rr, 1>JJ., f.S« 

'^ The WKLsmuN.*' — I rememWr, in 
schoolboy days now «omo fi\c-aiid-Ktrty 
ngo, reading a roniancc — the first thing In tni 
of ft novel I ever read in my life — entith 
IVclfifnnan. It was one of that class . of 
volume ,romanr??>, which the ma^ pMi f>f i\ 
author of /f '!o\'e out of th> 

hundreds, an 1 1 to the tnmli- 

pastry-cooh. it, liuwever, made a <I 
ful impression on me at the tiii 
be very glad to read it a^'ftin were u (\x\\ i<>; 
old find happV timea. Can voti ov oily ol 
contributors give mo any inform. '■ ■ 
thii* novel, and as to whether A co. 
obtained atjy where? 

Koyal Ilut^, Plymoutb. 

Yachts of Small Tonnage, etc. — Ci 
of ^our rewlers kindly direct me to the bef I 

of mformution with regard to the above subj< 

their construction, guidance, and managi 

including that of boats of sdl r> 

Worlcif on shipbuilding we hare 
I wlwrejuay we get instruction on the '• liUic. 

that "should heep near phoro"? In iho 
j of the flummor I noticed in some 1 

reriew of a work on this subjiM ' 
' Brett, but have not since been a) 
' on it. Could uny of Caplida Cnt i 


" : MIE AVD OoN.VK — In 

by >&, and Mr. ( ' 

jiuMisiit'tt jLi their new edition ol in'.' ri.t^ 
, anecdote of some int<>ie:at is told of l>r. 

(vho, it is stated, in reply to an application' 
I had lieen made to him for an epitaph cm thef 
; poet, anid : — 

** If TOQ had comniAnilnl mo i6 h:iTe waUnl'l 
, Iwly toScotlind, AVt\ prfn^i^^ '^-"' I - -»" '^ 
I braced yuur oblignUon ^iti 
I vou that, you voald euro 

lonlher !•■» do, for even tlmt liaU» t,- 
I merit to the otwdiencu of yotir p(>or fru-T 

I Cau YOU tell me the authority t 
, story?' J.'c 

I ['iliQletLiir«iuole<l by Mr. iut<l Mrt, • 

in the i'twr'iMby.Dr. John I>onno, ciUt, ' 
I •alluaiou ill it is uot to Sluiksptiarc, l/i 
J Idarque<4 of lUniillon, who diH in 

letter is followed by the b- 
, at Ifao rsiincst of . Sir Ii<<' 
I Hyiim to tbo j^nt»« aud l^ M- U^ 

I the lutlor 19 ut)t louL', wc giva it ■-• 



149 > 

* Slit,— I presftme yon rathe/ try what yott can do in nc, 
thor vh*t 1 «tn do iD rarxf ; you knoT my ntttr most wbcn 
it ir«i hast, anil even Hicu I did best ivbeu] hud least 
unlh tot my «ul>je(:U. In Lbb prc&cul oiuo tliorc i^t so 
Bl^ IrutJb, u U Jel'eata ull (>Oi'Inr. CaII, thcriiforc, tliii 
Uy wLat name yoa will; aud if il be not Wdrctiy 
I, iiur ofycfii, not of inc, amotber il, a«U bo thnt tlic 
'lid CO mm a ml nil nio to hikvu WAttcJ ou 
<i.i, aod preiiL'bed there, I would' Tiftve 
' " MiiJiuunvnlflcrily. Hut 1 ihuiik 
L[iiid thnt which { iraa lojith tu 
. ..^ o'l'i-'n A tlacturc of uicric tcr the 

iiLud and sorritut tii Cliriiit Jesiu, 

JoKii r*hdmberUIai imtJog to- Sir t>adley Carletou, ou 
] -.\ «iy>, " 1 »cod yoa here certain vtrscs of 

':. Paul's 'bpon the d«athof the Marqae»s of 
uiiinit. nhicb ihtiugb ibcy be reaMinably vritty and 
4oDe,7etJ eouldw^dhm man of hie yean and phwo 
•ver ftnifriog.*''— Cbwri am/ Tlimr* p/" <^r(e* A, 
)■■'■■ ■ 

"SaVTRK TrKLOOEV."' — In lh& JiogcitiS AnfjU- 

u*.vj. iw^n;:- th" pluys produced by Sir John 

theatrt* in the Hayranrket, 

, ft fftrce "nrote by'Captnin 

i ft5 l>uwue9 persists hi cflllinp: him), 

«, ftnd Mr. WfiUh. Mr. Bo^got RCtcd 

vM hij^'M}* ftppiiiudod.*' 

I in the cditioiii! I bar© 

! [ eiLhcr VaDbruph orC-ongrere, 

I now if it wtu ever printed. 

■ivhen a Eucce?5ful piece may lun 

r a twelvemonth, il is curiou3 

j.-irf6r loiv, ^^m>t*J hy Mr. Con- 

; extremely w«U acted, cbictly Ujo 

'■■- •ailor'llKjggft;,, it took tbirtoen 

," AIv quutJiiions are from the 

-,,... , ....^ by F."a. WhULtou ill 17^0. 

Cdaules Wylik. 

rTi.* /:ir.* Squirt TrtlmJf^ prtotcd in April, ITOi, ii 

tif MoUcrv't ,Vc»/M(r«r </« /*ott/TW»iy«at\ 

leil )>y our correjputidoiit, attribntca it lo 

. e, and Wulali; whtreAS, Coxcter'* 

CcMh iraa the tinualator. Vida 

.<iUv<it iii. 5>) And GeDelte*8 


1 R. — Who WAS the first PHme 

■.,'^ ■ ■ ■ O. 

:iUter'*wa8 firit appItL-d to Sir 

F-nriiarhriil HflnSR. On Pub. II, 

n'-a, he rcRif^iul all 

in« (he rainnrtipd 

1* to bii rt-aigno- 

i styled ma a Prints 

I unpnrdonnbli? ■bQw uf 

1 Ih^7 only crmtcd and 

TwTonrxHAit Park akd Knbllfb H.4Lti.— **! 

Can you iolorm uie whefe I can oblaiu iafoi-ma- 
tioD Mspectiiig- either of the abore ? 

f. J. WitZTJMS. > 

Ec^orillc Miucum, Twiek«n!iim. ' ' < T 

[Conaolt Lysoiia*^ Kwironi, ill. 5»d-?04, uid SoppW"' 
mcnt, pp. 312-323; Ironilde'a mutoiy of TtnciuitJittmi* 
■Ito, 1787; Auogier'a IHuory of Sym Manmivri;^ 4ke 
Par'uK tf UlrwctViy and the Omyrlrt of JJounthiw, 9\ 
\d40 ] Jlrtatties uf ICn^nd ami f^'aUt, vul, x, ]<, iv.^ 

Bisnop Jbhemy Taylou. — I nm dcwroua tq,^ 
kqow where acgesa can be hod to any Itilter or^, 
sijjued document in the baodwritiri;? of this illus-f^ 
tnoiy prelato^ also, whelUt;r a fac-eimilo of lii^^^ 
autograph ^evQr haa been puI)U!jl;t4, ^ ^'^j 

Alexander B. OKoaAHT. I ^ 

[Three of Bishop Jeremy Taylor's aiitoi^riph leitnt* \ 
are among the Additionnl MSS. in th« liriti«b MiMffim^ " 
No. ^74, p|K 126, 127, dated Nov-. 2-1^ IG13. aud Feb. 23, 
1G66-7 ; No. 12,101, to Jolui Kvelyu^dalwi Mny 13. 1667. 
See abo Uie Calendar of State I*aper^ IMucstic, IGOO-ff&iW 
tor foDr ccrtiilcatet si^ed by Uic bishop.] 'tit 


(4"' 8. IT. 107.) 

The notice given by W. K of the cemetery uf 
tbia lately "renovated" edifice tempta me to' 
oduf the resulL of my own experience on a receitt 
visit to tho plftCG. "When stfpi were taken in 
18lkJ to colleci subocriptions for i\vi lo^toraliou of 
the ch&pcd, I was induced Ui aub^cr^bu tr> tbo 
fund under tho positive assuranco, received from 
the eocretoxy of the managing oommitteej that 
tho monuments "would not be removed oxoept 
nbsolutely necessary, and, if removed, they uotud 
hn most carcfulUj rq}iace^.'* Jly fiuninse therefore 
■was great wbeu^ on enUrinp the chapel, I found 
that every monument had been removed, nud not 
one replaced in ita original position ! But tUa 
was not the worst pnrt of the ^Iteratipna which;! 
under the name of " restorfttion/' bad been car- 
ried out : for on mahing a further aurvey I found 
thatjOul uf about sixty monuments erected before 
the year 1800, nearly one hiilf had been tahon to 
pieces and more or lew mutilated, by Temo«nff 
the ornRnienlal back nnd Hide ylaba of colourod- 
marble, and retaininjf only the inscribeU centre 
tablets. Among the moiuimenta thus injured, 
thirteen have Imd the shields of anna belonn:inj;» 
to tliem talcen away — tin net of Vandalism (for so 
I consider it) which has mneh dimimshed their 
interest and value, for the mUo of the local his- 
torian, it may bo useful ta record the names nnd 
dates on the niouuinGnta so dealt with, namely :— 

ToL Daniel O'Connor, SepU 10. 1«(;2 ; M»ior Thomas 
Oldfiehl, Apr. 7, 1799; Lieot. Christopher Wifliam Gtdm, 



i^t. :«, imfli Tboiri«s Mciif.M.O., May 23. 1811; En- 
•)ini WmiBin KnaUlibtiM, Oct. N, 18I.H; MajorT. J. 
Tltrrivn, Dec. H', Ir^vO; Cipt- -'"'lo l!i»k<?i' il«v, II. \., 

Msv l;^. lHy3; Ann Maria, nife rf I.ii-TK.-f .1. Xvilliani 
W<v.<1Jk<uh\ Nov. 5, l!^2i' : I I. 

Aui,', 7, l?^^H; linn. Sirti- 

L|eut.<-ol. '1 i '■■'!". "■ '- '■■■-- 

dAugbtcr "f •>>, K«b. 14, 18U3; 

ludCoI. Kol- .^14. 

All this uncftUotl-fur miscbiel was aulhoriitcd. 
it appeftrs, by the comroitteo au the riicommendii- 
tiou of the flrcliitect cniplovvd to rt'Htoro th'? 
building! Inetend of repianng the nioniimeute 
in their oripinal portiiuua >m lht» wiilU, lo wbicli 
they would have Itiiit nn interest (as ovidenced by 
thu Iwo wbicb bare edcaped the fnte of the re< — 
tLosc of Admiml Sir Georjre CampWll nnd Cftpt. 
Sir Jiimes liUcfts Yt*o, lv.X.), it would ecem that 
tbo arcbilect bus preferred to leave the walU of 
thi» body of the rhApel iu tlieir bare unadorned 
state, aa rebuilt. A portion^ indetid, of the plain 
-white tjibleta taken from the monuuiouta bas 
been placed close together at the west end of the 
building', on the space gniued by its r«cvnt eu- 
largcuu'nt ; and here &ouio Iweuty-five tnblets ore 
arraiiF^^ed in parallel n.>w9, attached to the walla, 
but the effect is vitntqmn in the extreme and im- 
aatbfftctory, A few otliera have been degrraded 
from their original locality, and are now placed 
abnof't on a level with the paveniflnt, and exposed 
to iiU'vitablo injury from their clo.<!0 proximity to 
tbo wooden chairs of the cou^egation. I par- 
ticuUi'lr allude to the handaomo monument of 
Kear-Adniiral Donald Campbell, Nov. 11, 1819. 
Bkd Colonel Peter Uawl(er,LieutenaDt-Govenior of 
FortHOioulh, Jan. 5, 1732. I^^ides theee, no less 
than thirty muuumenta have bren crowded to- 
gether into the »mall veatry on the north aide of 
the chancel, mo8t of which are imbedded in the 
wbUb. and the two lower rows quite hidden by 
the PUTpliceti of the cboristers, whicn are su^peudtd 
around on a wooden rail. 

It would, I think, be very deeirable to know 
whether euch procettdings arc strictly legnl, and 
whether it is really in the power of a committee 
or architect to mutilate monuments in puch a 
manner (even if a faculty baA been obtained for 
tbcir removal), witbuut lirH obtaiuing the con- 
sent of the representatives of the deceased 'f There 
is sun*ly a auuctity and property in monuiueuts 
aa well aa in ^tayt», and botL ought, in my 
opinion, to be respected. I own that I write 
warmly on the mibjtct, for among the monuments 
iu the Guriaou Chupel ia one of n near relative, 
put up at a couf«iderablo expense in 182H, and 
which, being wholly of white marble, haa been 
very reoklei-aly mutilated. 

Before I conclude, I wish to draw attenttnn to 
the inscription on the monanient of (.'nl. Daniel 
O'Connor (descended from an ancient fuuiily of 
that name in Ireland), which ia becoming illegible, 

and aeema worthy of pnwervaticm 
tion reapeclini? iLia imlividii. V 
have hi?M apoat of finme im] 
nf Oharb^ I. nnd Charles 11 
Tho inaciiptiuu rends as follows : 

A njr infona**! 

VJ HI i.'lT urL:> 

Si-tt* (^miluin, morla' i > . net ana hMF 

Colliii'; \ irtut^'tii, 'j'l. 

.Ill ' ' I'- WCttUtU* {/ik\ 


Hi. j.v. .-..,, -■■ "-.UrtmX 

Kx ant-iqua ct tm, i» 

Mcini'iniii. Hvl> ^ciiunn 

f'tirrtculum itertn-iaiiiiia n. )>i 

I'rinio, pill! meiftitriu.', ct C< ijxiini»» 

Glori(wo, inm fu'liLtlor i*gii up 

Dux. ridtlitcr, prudcnl^r, I ■ 

t'oiif-ilio priidrnlir-^iinii", < , 

QuietuieimuB in '^ 

In proKperii!, ti^ 

Tuniido nee In < 

Sfmprr idim, i 

Ci»nmu«, pau) ' 

PaUL'iUia, \iiiilA^Liii, subrktai..?, omatii^Gtou^ . irniraa 

Dudt DofoiDam Annam Wb&ley, eximuD antdettim, j/i^ 

ChaHtatis FcBtninam, Luiidiiii, in Pan" ' 
Magdatcom, ex qu.n nit!!nm hilMiif pn-l 

Per der^Ri ami - !■ [>"•*[* 

Tajiaum (prnli *, utMm 

Cum morte tju; , ■mhi r%0 

Caroli Scountli ■ > . i :mM(i.i - n. 

AUi. viator, et refer hujiis intehtu 
Cwterorura mortnliam vitam soln." 

The shield of anna formerly UOieXM^ 
monument wua, .\zure (F) a Lion (?) ramptfltl 
for O'Cutiuoy^ impaling, argent, three 
heads eroded sable, for if7iai^» F. 

i* V 


(4*^ S. IT. 10, 06, 127.) 
Last July I ventured to forwar' ' 
a few lines rehitive to the nattam:- 
Bitlli/, which so commonly forms liit- i.- ■■ y 
the names of towns rind villag-eain Ireland, H 
ing spent the last six months abroad, i^ "^ 
bv accident that I met with some i 
"'N. & Q./' and then first leamcd il.n 
tion had been printed, and had eliti 
one a very courteous one, signed .^ 
to the other, bearing the Bignnttu 
term courteous could scarcely U? 
a sacrifice of truth. 

Written, as the latter article eTidt»ftlly 
under a feeling of irhtaiion produced 
idea of the motive which induced me : 
ques-tion to '* N. A Q.," I am quite 
overlook Lion. F/fl momentiu-y f oi^* i 
the style commonly current mdohl' 
tion; and I flatter myself that, h'' 
time to cool, he will, after reeling iiir 
ing lioea, admit that the idea I threw (. 

F*8.T, rffl.B,79.1 




ftbsnnl aa he declareft it to be ; and, farther, 
It tbe desire to denigrate bia nntion in uowLie 
itacDced zne. I spent Kven yeara in that fair 
[Teen isliuid," nnc I liavo ftlwaya confiidered 
I jears the rery hAppi««it of my life, and to 
m day, whenever in my wandtrinps in mnny 
i»ds I'hupjwn to hear the "music of the brogue," 
r heart beat« quicker. 

Thoujrh well aware of the absurd notions cnr- 
it in Trpland fnrtv yeara ago on the subject of 
i DancA, I imagined that the re^tulta of the 
e«xch«M of Dr. Todd and other Earned Irish- 
in on the one hand, and of the members of the 
inl Danish Antiquarian Society on the other, 
i iMOoimt gvnerHlly known at least among tbe 
~ claivtv; and that common justice would 
to a racv of men whose nces have beeu 
ia the blackeat colours, especiaUy by 
but whoAe noble qualitie-* have been 
by every htrttorinn save Kemble in his 
the Anglo-Spixons; but LiOM. F.'s eom- 
aeema to indicate the reverse. 
oationa, not widely differing in ciriliaa- 
iBp MMOutl \onf; lire in cloee contact without 
Pn^ asd Tcoeiving mutual inatiniction. The 
i» ai the Scandinavian and the (/elt forrai no 
Mption to thift rule. While the Celt mayfturly 
max {mUr aUa) tbo honour of having inocu- 
lad bvMh the fnir-buired Norwegian ( Fionm loch' 
) and the blnck-baired Dane (Z>tf&A 
tigh) with elementary ChristiAnity, and 
WJ KaT« taught both an alphabet superior to tho 
tinic, tho thanes appear to me, after conault- 
g the heat Iriah and Scandinavian recorda, to 
we directly and indirectly conferred groat bene- 
b on the natiree of Irelnnd, espenHlly in foster- 
^, if indeed they did not crpnte,Infih commerce, 
mI thus lay the foundation of tbu pr^aent tlourisb- 
m commerce of Dublin, Wat*rl'.u-d, Cork, and 
IBMnck, whii'h places we know were the chief 
Saddiiinrian futrontrhnlds daring more than three 

trir on 




Dublin Muaeum shows that tho 
nn common skill as an artificer in ^ 

[lane flurpassed him in fa.4liinning 
: and it if) to this .^kill that I am ! 
1 to Attribute the tucceea of tho 
in iht-irefTorta to establish them- 

adraits, aa be does, the inferiority of the Celt 
to tho Dane in military archit^^ctnre, why should 
any one be indignant at the idea of his inferiority 
as a civil architect ? I was confirmed in my idea 
of tho innate inferiority of the ancient Celts as 
majwus by remarking the absence of taste or ftkill 
Tor both) observable in the dwellings of their 
descendants — in the Scotch Higblnnds, in Wales, 
in the Celtic parts of Ireland, imd perhaps more 
striktnfrly in Brittany. I have vi»ited countries 
as littlo blessed with wealth as any of the ahore- 
mentioned, but such uncomfortable abodes as 
those which appear to satisfy the Celts X nerer 
met with. 

The above plain statement will, I trust, con- 
vince LioM. F.that under my inquiry in ** N. & Q." 
there larked no sneer at the nation to which be 
belongs. Further: I cheerfully yield the point in 
question, and am ready to believe that the word 
fialiif may be found not onlv in a Celtic dictionary 
of 1817, but also in the oldest Irish manuscript 
which the rats and the rain have left \\m ; but there 
is one assertion in my opponent's letter to which I 
must demur. lie sayt *" I must be a Dane" I 
should be happy to claim that honour had I any 
title to it, but I hnvo none. Bom in the county 
of Bedford, where my progenitors bad been set- 
tled for more than two centuries, I must be 
siitiefied with being au Englishman, of which I 
trust 1 shall never have reason to be ashamed. 


Montretix, Svllzerlsod, Dec. 2S, 1869. 

ftws in a country «o distant from their own, in 
te fnrY> .,f a foe equal in courage and so superior 

1 , ■« early Irish chronicler distinctly 

IHpB tiiat in the art of fortlHcation the Danes 
Hkfiu' superior to hi^ countrymen ; and it wad 
BHttaBWiit which induced me to put the un- 
JPlHw e'»'*«tio«, whether these same Dane^ 
■1 impmved the Celtic style of 
. and that hence the term BaVy 
gjSiiL pu-.iibly be a corrupt form of the Danish 
ro>. *■ Xoti omncfl omnm poMumus ** is aa true 
HnoQs AS of individuals: and if an Irish writer 



(4^" S. v. 35.) 

In AuGTuit last I visited Nuremberg, and having 
nreviously read Mr. Pearaall's interesting article 
in The Arvfuf^hyiti on the " Kiss of the Virgin," 
I resolved on ascertaining whether that instru- 
ment was still in existence in the old city. On 
inquiry I found an intelligent guide nam^d John 
Winter, a native of Nuremlierg, who ifl well ac- 
quainted with some matters of local history and 
with local antiquities. lie conducted a fellow- 
traveller and myself to a part of Nuremberg near 
to the old castle, and brought to the spot a 
woman who possessed the keys of a grated irate- 
way to which he led us, the entrance to a (light 
of steps hewn apparently out of the rock itself on 
whicli the castle stands. We descended these, 
and found ourselves in a subterranean gallery or 
pas«'age, with several Itfty recesses on the Irft 
hand, in which were placed the apparatus for in- 
flicting public punishment and for torturo. Of 
these 1 remember a low platform serving for tho 
exposure of thieves thereon, a^ in a fixed pillory ; 
the appliances for stretching the body by means 
of pnlleys in an upright posture; the cradle, a 



lon|^ titb lined inuardlv with abort spikes, in 
-irbitili LliQ victim was rooked ; tUo ladder, another 
inatrument of torture ; thu choir, tlie seat of 
wfaicli woB atudtkd wiUi Bharp-pointcd ziAtls; ftnd 
a proftwion of sraaH^r onicles devised with dinlio- 
licAl ingenuity for tiie purpoae of hiHictiiig intonac 
and iutolerablo pliyaicBl auflSiring upon the un- 
happy subjfH^Ca of the diflpleAStLre cd the rulera 
of TvurembGr^ in pfUt ages. 

After examining' thoE»e, «nd htvving boon sap- 
plied viih CHudleSf we were preoeded by toe 
Ctt$inriit7tne of theae iofenial regiiMii along a nor- 
jow yasifige, with on« turn to tho luft and nnother 
(to tii4 right, until wo entered a ^oudi square 
<diainb«r. In thia gloomy c&rern, the dim light 
cf tho candles enabled ua in discern in one conier 
wh&t Hppeared to be n pair of atockft, ncd nearly 
in the eentre r Hgure nbovo the height of a 
buintui beings which had evidently been deigned 
to reproaent a femflle, draped in a clonk desoend- 
ifkg to the ground^ and we&ring an antique hectd- 
veta, Thia wu the Nuremberg virgin. On the 
touching uf n spriug, tho forepart How open (being 
%ndpftnded at tiie aide on bingee), and Tevealed 
the iaterior of the figure. Ita hideons nod hoN 
Hble purjioae waa then apparent, for within the 
head were fixed kniroa projecting five of aii 
inches in the direction of the evea^ and about the 
thnoAt and body otbt^r knivea protruding atraight 
out of the back port of the cAvity of the figora; 
80 that when tlie poor wretch intended to bo 
Jailed waa placed in front of it, the wing of the 
Qgnref in flying bnck to ita place, thrut>t him into 
tthe intfido, and the knivee pierced hia eye-balla 
and hiij , cheat, and he wm locked in the deadly 
embrace of the virgin. Xho preaanra wB«.nsado 
certain and aharp by turning a screw on the out- 
ude. The victim stood on a trap*door, which 
when roleafled gave way, and the mangled corpae 
fell into ft pit below, there to be lacerated upon a 
revolving chnnl tlefris^. and atibaequently thrown 
into a pasaage connectca with the adjoining river 
or left to pntrlfy in the dungeon. The woman in 
fitt^ndaQce ahowed every detail of the figure, 
and, by menus of a piece of lighted paper thrown 
into the pit, eunbled us to »ee the nature and 
dimensiona of the K^th&ome chamber. 

On asking whcu the virgiu waa last used, I waa 
told it hod been ascertained that a portM:)n suffered 
little ninro than a century- ago frmn its applica- 
tion. It is nfftct that shortly after the year 1800 
a respectable and innocent female was rocked in 
the '^crodle^' and died from tlie wounds infiicted 
by it. It \B said tho I'rcnch aaldiera on their 
entrance into Nuremberg discovf red the instru- 
]Qeqt« of torLuri'. nti'l prevented thoir further use 
iigr the pul'i: u<'s. 

r T nifiy 1. ixri'iriiiL'- io Mr. Pearaaira 

^' n in illufltrfttion 

/' i\nd teatiugit by 

my memory of the locality, it aeema to mo atUl a 
ci>rrect representation. Xhearchicologiakt inA«if«ci 
of Europe ore indebted to an antiquAry of NaroD^ 
berg (I rogrct that hid name baa escaped sny 
memory) for the prestirvation of the undea ia 
tho torture chamber, and for the i '. v «f 

vluting them. The geotletnan 1 iv«s 

nonr to tho Town UaJl* but hta uuiul- lany b« 
aatiertained at that axKient and intetwUng hotel, 
the Red Horde, J\ttkl 


(4»»'S. V. 3.1.) 

The arms of SUnghtei of Clieney Coart art*, 
Argent a aaltier azure. Cheney Court, after h«in^j 
occupied na a fnrmbouae for many years, haa 
recently become the property of a gentleouui 
has made great additiona to it, completed I b^ 
Here -within tbo laat few montha. Tn 1K03 I 
visited it. In a small chamber at the bead nl tfa» 
fltoirs, I saw three sinkings over tbo fireplace, na4 
ioj each a shiekL Xho dexter sinking ohowai, K 
my notes are correct, azure, turned aUnoet blacdt, 
a «(dti«r ATgeint, which ia Slaughter transpoaed. 
The ceotro showed, per pale, baron quoxieii/, 
1 and 4 Slaughter; 2 and ^ sable, if noil 
turned Mack; and on a chief indent«d, galea 
crowna or; which, in spite of the ml8tnl»i«"flkj 
tincture of tho field, I read for tho Tery 
coat of Lecho of Chataworth. It will b« «tt^ 
further on that there is good reason for maUfig 
the required coirection. 

Pemmo ... a cbevToo . . . betwMn thMi 
dolphins naiant ppr. --"^ 

Creat, out of a duoal coronet a cubit anBrboUr 
' log a aerpent ppr. 

The uniater ainlung abowed ... a cbfflMi 
between three dolphin* nainnt ppr. < 

Theao three shielda evidrntiy Mon^cd to nw 
couple, ahd were put up at the aome lime. I do 
not know who the lady waa. 

A large room on the aame flooo^ not tnhabiM' 
when I Bawit, had round it iust under i' 
paintings of tho >Sibyl8, with long legt 
them, which I had not time to oopy. i iu:i« 
no arma vi&tble to me. 

But another house on the eania aloiM en 
Cheney Court etanda givea more infonnktSiia i 
This ia Hopton SoUera Court. It is of M 
infe-rior appearance to Cheney Ccirrt. Bat 
poaaing through it, nearly to the back, a verv 
ataircaao took me up to a small room, tha tlu 
which wftB covered with littei and dirt. Oobi 
of it was panelled, and ika panels had. 
upon them tho following ama : — 

1. Argent a Baltier asore, toraed TCiy 

2. Per pale. Bai<OD, Slaagbtcr. PanaD^ii 
a ball itatoot «ftb. 

f*S.V. fttBj&.-m] 

:fOTEs AND queries: 


• S, P*r jMl*. lUrtfn, enninc, ou a chief, In* 
d«at«Ml j^'uloft, threo crowus or. Lecho, Uero ve 
g«i tb« true co«t. 
<^rf «min«, &rgrQt nn r aaltier engrnikd Rnble, iiTC 

Kalets or. If th« annulets were nia<!, it would 

T^flUuc*. Ixch.> ni' ' 

.6. Pwr wile. JJ ^ ,, ^ „.l. ._: : .tgbterRod 
LmHa. Femmtif sable a chevron bHwecn tbro« 
dolphins embowod DuioaL Arg^Q^* Hhia is 4he 
Bofttcb sbowu V Q'ourt. 

6. A lozL- ; - tit oa a saftier engrailed 
nble. live annuii.-ts or,- ■ ' 

7. Wuiurt^rivj SlaughtOT and Le6het JT'fi "'fT 

. &. Per paL& IIatod, argeota saltier en^miUd 
fhtoy and on a chif;!* also sable three roees or 
•ksplsts argent. Fomme, the coat of saltier and 

0. Vvr pole. JWon, Slangbter. Fommaf ar- 
^^in: : iirce haicbets sable, 

J'kt* ' ' -' ' M I did not copy mysylf. I Ba-w 
iBtfaeiu onot explain tliem. liut lilvmu 

^l^iic*! j^cwmnt of the XoWnty nnd Gcntrr 

mm (AC taicly frcre> raUted unto the Serwul 

f>r Ljiglmd anti U'alcf .... The like 

Lvrfore puUuhcd. J^oimIou ; X*rint«d Asn^ Vita. 

TKi' rrfordahire": "£dw. Slaaghter, of 

lObftVBe>^ iX'tut, Uuit.," and *' Gilbert :(icboUeU, 
X^iicpija SoUpre, Es^." 

not know the arms of Nioholtets, But in 
. 'W rebuilt cburcb at Biahop's Frome is a 
2aoLuuienl with tbia inscription and tbste axnu. 
ifeB4tk the liaca bj dote: -^ 

* In Meniorr . of Ann Mary - Chrfati/tna SUTtmcif (Af 

) i Kflltot of Colcnel' Gilbert >'ictin)ltt<>- . ard 

htcT of . GilbfTt It^natiui Dirrgc . of liruasolU hi 

tia . who W3« Atitlitor to the Eiiipenir . of iitr- 

j . She died Jtii/v" ]y"> 177'J . aged 74 vcars,*' 

The pbield above tbis iiiftcription^how&'— Vert, 
^iofzs encTUnteriog' argent, longucd giilen, nnd 
:hief or, o demi-eagle sable, langued piUra. 
: On a barrtid helmet avrreaih, carFring a 
Mgle, aa in the eoat This is plfuulr tbu 
^ IJoyge, not NichoUeta, ITse cliiel" marks 
in th* empire. 
tT^e tbia iadv, I think, in a letter written in 
ben Abe is mentioned bs visitijijr at fSarus- 
:.'jd 1 find a Gilbert NicholteU, possiblr 
«oa, in e«ch of the tiro copies of days of 
in tha aneiisty- of the domettiR cha]V}l e.t 
Mfllvem. In tha oldar cony the rear i^ 
(glTecL 1775, in the later copy 17/9; the dav nf 
the month, June t, being the eame in botb. 'Tho 
-Aaniiia} of Hlaupfal'^r and NicboUeta were botb of 
Ihcm f 'atli'i'iir-. I do not know when the Nichol- 
leti' faxnily l.fl Uopcon broilers; but I 8ce that 
tbcir noiuf^ bilU go on. lu The Timet of July 10, 

IhiSQ, \H givBQ the doath of "Gilbert Alfred 
Nioboletta, li^q-, eldest ton of<^Colouel 0. ii. 
Nidioletts, late Bengal Caralry.*' 

The Slaughterf left Cheney Court about the 
end of the last rentury or the beginning of tbia. 
About lh55 a Ifr. Harrington wa?t occupying the 
honae. His wife, then an aged woman, told my 
informant, a Catholic priest, tliat ahe wna herself 
A connection of theirs, but did not I'xplatn how 
near the connection waa. ^be Baid that, when 
she was a little child, living in the house, the 
^laughtera of the day went abroad to see daugh- 
ter of theirs at school, and naver came bade 
This vngae .statement covered^ no doubt, aomo 
facts. There ha%'e been two marriages of Batooeits 
Mo5t)*n with ladies of the Slaughter family. Tha 
preneot Dowager f^dy Mostyn la one of these. 

The t>langh(er] were long: settled at Upper 
Slaughter, in Glouceetcrshiro. Atkyns .says, in 
17U: — 

''The nanor has basn h)nia^ iu the family of the 
SUugtitiTs vlto have reaidod In thi$ plaee obuvo ibite 

The Inst Slaughter mentioned bv Kudder died 
in 1740. Xhoa tao luauor gf ISlaughtor was sold. 

D. l\ 

Stairts Lod^ Ualvoca WwUs. 

The armeof 91irafrhter(co. Gloucester) ari3cuton 
a tombstone in the church of Ht. Mary, Clonmel. 
Thej are ou a floriated shield, and when next I 
havi» an opportunity of so'Jng Clonmel, I may 
hara time to take a rubbing of them. The toml>- 
atoae contains the following inscription, which 
may intert'st your correepondent Mb* U. J,Ilobzx- 
flov and your readers geueially :— • ' » 

** n«e "licth the body of Jnnx "^ 

fiLitionTEB, bonrtio Glouoestcr- ' "« 

ddrt, who diofl tbo fint of Angosi 16S7. il n 

Here also li«« the body 0^ Curuet i ji) 

Ji>n> Bativ. firanvlinii to tin; . . 

Titus. oJJii j.r.t/Ai'rni liAiri "i \ jt'iirncU. 

AUo the body of Kuzabv-tr, ' it 

tliO iiiA. of Tjiot, I'a 11 r. ,i> 

■Tll"M 1-. bM I ■- "t 1 II. .1111' 1], 

whn Jppftrtrd Ihfrt lift al 
KiUiiUi^httr, th.i 7th ot KtAroary, ' 

1721^, ukI in tUo 02ad yutr 

of hi« age, 
irpr--- ling thn Iwly of Lit^i T. 

\V« IvENSllT, Ra also 

the Iwdy of Kmrahbth 

Kex^ei-ii, who died 8«p' 

7'S ITJb." 

It U not unlikely that the memVr of the 
Slaughter family nbove named came to iTclaud 
durinfl the CroiawelWan wars, and settled in 
Clonmel, where we find hia {rmndsnti^ CQt\VB<w 
JoUu Batty, '* boh to tUoi, oa^' UVii^itK^iNx'ft^.Vw^ , 



[4* a V.Feb, ft. Tt 

of Clonmel," interred in the some tomb in January 
1711. A Captain and Ideut-Col. Thomas 
Slaughter held that rank on Feb. 22, 1779, in 
the Coldatream Foot Guards. 

Mauricb Leniean, M.R.I.A. 

I find that Edmondson (1780 edit vol. ii.) gives 
as the arms of Slaughter of Herefordshire, " argent, 
« saltier azure." Crest : ** Out of a ducal coronet 
or, an eagle's head arg. wings expanded sable." 
And for the arms of " Slaughter " of Gloucester- 
shire, same as above, the difference being in the 
crest, which is, '' out of a ducal coronet or, an 
eagle's head between two wings expanded azure: 
beaked of the first." J. S. Udal. 

10, Fark Street, Grosvenor Square. 

FMr. F. K. Fowke will see that the reply kindly fur- 
nished bv him in embraced in Ma. Udal's answer.^ED. 

«N. & Ci."] 


(l**" S. T. 34.) 

I hope Mr. GtBDSXAinw-WAtraH may receive 
from otner sources a more complete account than 
I can give of this remarkable poet, who affords 
nearly the most striking instance of neglected 
genius in our modem school of poetry. This is a 
more important fact about him than his being a 
Chartist, which however he was, at any rate for 
ft time. I met him only once in my life, I believe 
in 1848, at which time he was about thirty, and 
would hardly talk on any subject but Chartism. 
His poems (the Studies of Sensation and Evcnt^ 
had been published some five years before my 
meeting him, and are full of vivid disorderly 

fower. X was little more than a lad at the time 
first chanced on them, but they struck me 
flpreatly, though I was not blind to their glaring 
aefects and even to the ludicrous side of their 
wilful " newness" ; attempting, as they do, to 
deal recklessly with those almost inaccessible 
combinations in niilure and feeling which only in- 
tense and oft-wnewed effort may perhaps at Inst 
approach. For all this, these " Studies "' should 
be, and one day will be, disinterred from the 
heaps of verse deservedly buried. 

Some years after meeting Jones, I was much 
pleased to hear the great poet Robert drowning 
speak in warm terms of the merit of his work ; 
and I have understood that Monckton Milncs (Lord 
Houghton) admired the "Studies" and interested 
himself on their author's behalf. The only other 
recognition of this poet which I have observed is 
the appearance of a short but admirable lyric by 
him m the collection called Kightintfttle VaUey^ 
edited by William AUingham. I believe that 
some of Jones's unpublished MSS. are still in 
tho possession of his friend Mr. J. Linton, the 

eminent wood-engraver, now rending m New 
York, who coula no doubt fizmish more &eli 
about him than anyone else. It ia fnlly tiae 
that attention should be called to thia'poet'i 
name, which is a noteworthy one. It mar not k 
out of place to mention here a much eanier ■! 
still more striking instance of poetic genina wUiA 
has hitherto fuled of due recognition. I aMi 
to Charles J. Wells, the author of the blank vaat 
scriptural drama of Jowpk ayd hU SrwOawk^ 

?ublished under the pseudonym of " Howavd" ii 
824, and of Stories after Naturt (in prose, ki 
of a highly poetic cast), published uionymouilf ii 
1822. This poet was a friend of Keata, who li- 
dressed to him one of the sonnets to be fouaiiD 
his works — " On receiving a present of 

Wells's writings — youthful as they are— d«Mm 
to stand beside any poetry, even of that titts, Ir 
original genius, and, I may add, for native itn^ 
tural power, though in Uiis latter respect Hvr 
bear marks of haste and neglect. Their ttaomt 
come yet Baktb G. 

(4* S. V. 21.) 

In reply to Mb. Edwabd RncBAiTXT Bmin^I 

repeat the statement I have already made, dirt 
Charles Dibdin's granddaughter has u her 

sion all his manuscripts, and, I have to add, aHUi 
private papers as well. Perhaps I ought to hm 

qualified my previous assertion, that of cos 
" all '* did not mclude those pieces of compoatkB 
which he disposed of to various publishers te 
trifling sums in order to obtain the means of nW 
sistence when he first began life in London; bat 
when I wrote ray note (4'*' 8. iv. 488) on a totsDIy 
different subject to the present, I did not apett 
to have received a reply of the nature which csBi 
forth this second note from me relative to t&8 
illustrious Im>din. 

Respecting the destruction of MSS. in geiMnl 
and those referred to in particuliir, I muft fW 
remind Mb. E. R. Dibdih that when a woik ii 
sent to the press and a proof knocked off, the 
original with tho proof is returned for the autfav 
or composer to correct, and he is not supposed to 
send his manuscript back to the printer with ths 
corrected proof. Secondly, Charles Dibdin wiBlld 
and published the bul^ of his works at Am MP 
printing ofHce, and it is the MSS. of those woita^ 
as well as the unpublished ones, that are in vf 
friend's possession, and which I have seen. 

I submit 1 have solved the difficulty raised Irf 
Mb. E. K. Dibdiw (not created bv me). 1 db* 
decline to give the name of the fady in queitkB 
until better informed of the right of Mb. K B. 
Dibdin to demand it, and even then I leserreto 
myself the option of refusing it ; bat I hiTO ^ 

4*S. T. FKii.ft.TOL] 



objectido to give lipr Une of descent; h ia na fol- 
ioWRT — <''hfirl''>: Dibdin was marned twice j thu 

RM) marriage all died youn^r. By 

le -ho wu^ a Miss Wilde of Port- 

^, liildrm). lUrte of nbom died in 

tf: 1 ^vu 8urv'ivurfl, Jolin and Anne ; 

ohii W' I- i<> - i aud vina drowned, and Anne 
nini-'-i- in ihe wnny. The issue of tbiit 
-> )» diiii^fhter, the IhAy uow in que^- 
. I btiiy^e, the only legitimate de- 
L Uarle-i Dibdin. 
Aa 1 mm on thia Bubjert I may or well call 
atimtiuD to ou error J obderve in a aketcli of 
[KWin in the UentUman'a Matjanne fur 1815, 
pari I. u. i^'^n, where it is fcluted thiit the govern- 
DB' V ijf iv:\^ hiiudred pdunds waa dib- 

tiid thul u public Bubscriptinu wad 
U\ buy on annuity, which was done^ and 
iin died in posaeaajon thereof, and it then 
to hia widow. Now, firstly, Pibdin 
poaaesaioD of the government allownnce ; 
■econdly, bis widow received ono half of the 
after bis death, for Hia Royal Highness the 
Dulie uf Kent interoAtod himself in her behalf to 
that end, aud hia letter to hcfi congratulating her 
up«n her succe-a, is still extant. There woa a 
inheaiptiou t»et un foot by some gentlemen to do- 
•nts-s of the monument erected by 
II iuid her dun<^hter in St. MartinV, 

, nnd this uiuy bare given rise to 
liis Tc-pfTl f'-i^o ling an imnuitjj but of this 1 
fiuiooi «4y ttuyiiiing. Liou. F. 



(4?*' S. iv. 477.) 

I frrir that Ku. Lkb will find he has all his 
w^^i^ 1-' du oyer again. Having been permitted 
[= 1 1 the Booka of Entry at Stationers* 

J! you annexed an extended copy of 

" .Ut»// Fhndcra in corroboration of 

1 iiimunication ; — 

.VI. 172|, p. 30j. 
Then tfntrcd for hi* oopy, 

iir* ul" the Futnoiw Moll Flan- 

..'II in New^ftt*. And duriiit; a Life 

for thrc« •cdtT yoara, betidea her 

'- vo times a wife 

" iveytars a thief, 

'^ ' r^'-i'iAt It IfiftL grew 

y- ' a 1^-iiiteiii. WritUD from 

'■ ■■■. Reed. ;».— vi 

*' 'Ihks. Edu.-v.*' 

1 Ikacjr ''«*' nf your readera have beard so 

«f M0U Fiandirit befoit', perhaps na little of 

■1 rKftracter uf an cuity at Slationera' Hall: 

..: the whole title ia to be 

ing it I could but reflect 

r j---'r .Mrs, i-v)gh haa been made com- 

mon talk, juft aa MoU Flnndcrs was. ITow in- 
famously her character boa boon traduced^ {wrhapa 
hereafter to form the groundwork of ft omlljir 

j\a to tho poaLloa of Mr, Lkr in thid mutter, 
I feiu- that will not prove pleadOuL He my^jMntU 
hhnk that 172§ should be read I72J. i' cannot 
agree witli bim for one moiuent : tht: entiiva run 
on regularly, and the chroncdogy is intact. The 
page headings run thus : Oct. 27, ITl'J, at p. 272 ; 
then Nov. 28, 1710; Feb. 15, 17^ j Aiuil 28, 
1720i Dec. 31, 1720; Jan. 7, 175l); Feb. 28, 
172J: April 13, 1721; Dec. 21, 1721; Jan. 31, 
172i; Feb. 0, 172*: April 27, 172^; Dec 3, 
1722 J Jan. 12. 172|; Feb. 4, 172| j March 6, 
172«, at p. a07. 

The use of different styles la always liable to 
confuaion. Thus, the martyrdom of Iving Charles 
ia placed by some historians in 1G4^, by othera in 
1041), accordbig aa the civil and legal or the hia- 
torical year ia used. Again, ''the glorious and 
immortal memory ** may bo dated either 1(188 or 
1680. I would, therefore, suggest for Mk. Lbb's 
consideration whether it would not be correct, 
ttnder one B^stemy to denominate Dec. 3, 1722, of 
the above tronscnpta, aa Dec. 3, 172* ; and'tbcn, 
under another suttenij to start with the next cntiy 
as Jan. 12, 172}, aa above also. Thus brining 
the three years 1721, 1722, 1723 together, within 
as close approximation as we find them in theflO 
conflicting dates of MuU Fiander*^ thus set forth. 
Anyhow, your readers will see that I have suh- 
8tantiat<^d my dates, and if Mr. I^re shouM find 
it necessary to cancel his ''Clironological Cata- 
logue,'* I trust that he will favour me with a 
copy of tho roviaed sheeta for my trouble. 

One word aa to tho right of entry itaolf, against 
which there ia a general prejudice. The Jlxet 
Copyright Act (8 'Auno, cap. 19) introduced no 
novelty : it restricted the limit of duration for 
all copyrights, and gave increased powers of pro- 
tection against piracy during that limit, prorioing 
that all claimants to copyright should enter at 
Stationers' Hall. But entry at Stationers' HaU 
existed before Quoen Anne's davs ; it was a gene- 
ral custom among tho publiahmg trade to make 
such entries long beforehand. Parliament, in 
enforcing that right of entry, only coutirmcd on 
established custom, evidently borrowing the idea 
from the usages of the City Corporation. Tho 
Stationers' Company, therefore, enjoy this right 
by as clear a prescnption as is p«>s6iblo. 

In the above " entry " of Maii Fhndert, " vi." 
refers to the/rr paid on entry, and the '* Itecd. 9 " 
refers tn tho gratis conies contributed under the 
old Act to certain public libraries. This delivery 
of fiin<! copici, aa of a new book, will, I think, 
(Kilisfy Mil. Le£ that the entry must refer to Uio 
tirat edition. Autuuu IIlUU. 

25, Patemoater Bov. 




Is raplr to IJEaMBXisuuifs quedaa. And ia 

continiiatfun of lUe eubject, would >ou kinJl^v 
allow ujo aliUle space ? 1 comiot i^\Q aoy accoujit 
of "^Old Lob/' tliough luaiiv iii{jiiiries haw becu 
mado. There nr© sevcrnl localities, liowiiver, lu 
the DD!|?hbouriDgf tovrnsTiip of Sdddleirortb, once, 
according to popular notiuns, infeatt»d •with "Old 
Hobs." A curtou.4 I»waI work (pp. *2i2) app^ftivd 
in 1B24, entitled Itet^ut Poems on Rural m\d of hrr 
Mi$<^Uanemw Skfhjrt-h, bv Tbom/is Shaw, npinrian, 
« natiTe of Suddleworth, Yorkshire. The book 
contftioa a stTHnge metrical sketch, cnlled "The 
Narrative of Shantooe Jeflt, {tUias) Old Mr. Koberl 
Dillrume." If it dnee tiothiisg else, the nnrrftlive 
portrflys the then •' Bogrioirt " lore of thi'disttlL-t, 
entimemting about k dozen Torietioa as extant, j 
Theae compriMd " Old Mosa tbe Faijy Queen *' ; 
"Old Tack [? Puck] and Mattj Kew'' (who 
dwelt topather) ; "Old Hob"; '* Old Baker, on 
Delph Hill end"; the « Blater of Old Tame"; 
" XWaBhex o£ Slack Colo " ; " Nf;w Tamo iiend " j 
" Yoiing Orang-e-Bunip *' : bcside3 another em- 
phftticdlly designated '* Bump," probahlv the 
par*snt ; " Old iX-lpU NViU," and " Uiitlon Factory 
Morr." A ^oar ur two Bgu, ono of the parochial 
overseeis kmdly fumUhed uie with what, from 
>.i« position, may bo considei-ed an oHlcial list of 
the personal names and haunts, or reputed bcat^ 
of thiJ " feorin* " [frightful things] believed in 
when he waa voung. These comprise — '' Old 
DelphAVill"; "HinTopThrasber' ; " Castle - 
shaw Prummer": "Cloutb Spout Clocrgcr" ; 
« Knott Uill Hob,*' nnd "Narr Hob/ 

Concerning the esploita of the fir&t two nothing 
have "ire p-leaned. The dnimraer, 1 believfj pu- 
tronis^d <.*ftr Wuod, noiir Cdi-tleflhaw Mill. Ilob 
of Knott Hill, according to tradition banded down, 
it may be from bis eponwrs, was eo doagnttt«d on 
ftcconnt of bis having stood on that eminenw on 
tbo approach of King Cnnuto (Cnnl or Knut), 
and ordfred that monarch to march his ftmir up 
the TTiUpT to the attack of Cnfitleshaw, where 
remMnft of a Ronifln station may yet be traced. 
The Ordnance map marks **Hob Hole** and 
** B<>ggftrt-o'-tb'-mofis,'* two other i-eput«l hnnnls 
of feorin' in days gone by. Dob Uros5 is said to 
obtain ita prcfi-x from Dob or Dobby (probably 
Hob) a sort of apparition, eprile, fairy, or hobgoblin 
once in groat fear and reverence in many parts of 
the Weat Riding of Yorkshire. In the sama 
township of Saduleworth, near the romauticnlU* 
situated villnpo of Greenfield, there is a welf- 
hnowB DniidiflQl remain, said to bflve been an 
altar-stone, where iipiwared to a man who died 
on!v a few years ngo "liuura Ptonn," the last 
"fairee" (^fairy) g-f-n in th- "pArifih" of Saddle- 
worth. A abort are the " Fiviry 
Hole*,'* A couple ■ .weaves into the 




inmost TCf eases of wbieh Fbe i ireWrt. 

In the same town.^hip of Snd'i '■■'*- '- * 

gorge, or hill-side cba:*m, koov,- 

There iff B class of boggiirts, gh. . . 

locnTly termed ** padfeel," a tenud-. 

suppose, from the " pud," paw, i • 

pouidariy a^eigned to une of the le^ 

With respect to *' Jenny Greent- 
T remember in childhood'!? dava ari 
ton farmstead, with a yeoman^s bon 
to the early part of* th« fcv':"nteonlh coaturr. 
iVlmoet orersbading it wasasombro t\\t\ y^w-tpee, 
doubtless coeval, but then beginni uy. 

This end was being hastened by th t^ 

tide custom of lopping oil' the bnuifti'*^, iti o^dtf 
to dccorato the tany leiiden-cMeineDlpd wiitdowf 
then existing in tho house, and also in a cb«pel 
hard by the green of a nciKlibcurlng \Ulage. 
hying at some depth bon -'' ' '■ > ' "' 
on which tho iine old tr 
tinel, was n deep disiD.i. , -v- - 
time been eicavatod as a mai-l pit. < 
lads and lassos, with no otb'jp pi. 
ihemselves, would now and theii 
pastimes bad V-on run tbrough) ami 
bv sniling mimic '' flat.^ " and boats. In 
dieter them from approaching ^d i1;Ln jerou? a 
when caugbt upon the stejM ^. 
"ladiDg-liole/' an anxious u 
solemmy (aa wo then lliou- 
Greenteeth" was nrlfully lui 
below. Proof of the story wiw aflurdod lo fur 
unsophisticated minds by the exhibition of a 
set ol' human teetb enamelled with /.irl 

These were said to bear only a fai- ;ictt 

to those of the ^emoncps l>elow wua wim her 
long sinewy arms first drew children in and then 
ddvoured them. Somo other pits in the h 
were likewieo patronised by n "Jenny Oi 
teeth,'* and in my Gorton Jii^oriLnl Re 
(published in 1862) tbere are briellj uoticeda' 
dozen phip<*-a in tho lownshiD. once sunivj^cd 10 bo 

there were . 

wUh-tbe-whUp" '*JackP-wit" tJM 

** Peg-with-th -iron-teeth.*' 1. 1 -i '« 

to the point — 

•'To restrnin their chnarcaffom venfuruii.^ I-Vi ut^^. 
numcreas pit* ond pool;? wliich wf : <^^ 

fold uttd fielH, a (lcmon#» or ^' ' ** 

cnmeli at the bottom. Slia w« ki ■" 

teelli,' dnd was reported lo ju 
ventured tCKi near her doaittin, 
(IniioiicM wrt» lennotl * Grlndyluw.' 

In Mr. Edwin "VVaugliV-- Slvtrh-n of Lm 
Lift and I,w«Wiw( publi 
the *' bogiiarts, fairies, n:i 
ing to pupulai" noli-ms forintrjv it: 
iiity of the town of Heywood, ho isr^ 

" Somftlurkini? in the «licanii and \- 
Twilli* aud *Jcuny Lang AnuV wait" 

isneu in ioo;.j tueiv are uhkuj uuin.»:i» ■ 

places in tho township, once supposed who 

.od wiili boggmts and feorin'. In addition, 

were " Xut N^aus " "Cbm rnu.." " Wilb- 

4*,6.T. )fM.a,'a)0 

NOTJilS >A;XJ> ,QmauE& 


,r._. . I .. 

*-rrt lUrt, for nn o;i^jrtaiiity to clutch Ihc 
rcr upoa lUe Lank iiito tijc water." 

,e ' Tir While Ijuly,' ' Th'&krikia' Wonwn/ 

l-.-l..[iMr,f It 

I M 

tair for Kuie u-niIjiiv/iiDl ikod ol dArkuiuu done in ilic 

dica Mill ; 

a/ and Heicnptitc. Aotieet of 

7 7V- ,.M./. ia given fpp. OO-Tl*) 

' "sparit^/ "fAiroeji," 

li aeverAl rwtired spots 

out-ot-lfae-w»y townahip. Oho aon- 

I or iiixu<s, yr/a;^ Grindvlow ami 
I :rke*l flt Ihc holtam i»f piUt'tiitd wi»h 
tiia dragged in ajuX 4row4)cd clyldrwj 


' ■ '^ ' nilo yews were 
, Cheshire, atfttea 
; :■ .-w:- Ltu. .-((toned more thun 
. OreeDteeth." But in that case, 
w>- no poud near the house, 
m tho tops ol" the trues, at 
n»3 yoxuig imagination 
up to tho propw pitch, 
^7irden aad bade to listen 
: the night-'wind through tho 
n told it was tho moftning^s of 
th," it may ho just then dia- 
mght-xnare. Another clprpy- 
Waltou-le-DftltV inftirms me that 
kbers An nld ]Wt, since tilled up. but then 
, and in which it was 
nteeth," ever vn the 
r-; sv(X' Utided the urchin who 
:- her domain. "Jenny'* wna 
'iv;i iij -viancheiiter some fifty years ago, 
ftutiquarian friend. ''Shooter'* Brook" 
:i !er tht) aqueduct -which 
and Ashton-under-Lj'no 
t. nenr the London Rood 
I there existed an opening 
Uert forming a dangerous 
*\\y benide^ and vot they 
iii.'tliers tried to destroy 
that Jenny Greeu- 
1 m iuorderLo'^wih" 
A similar story was told 
fiold nt Latchford, new 
•n some thirty 
inffton enjoyed 
di«>t' of iho ia5t century. 
stated abfjxit certain nits nt 
rierhyjUiire, somo half «n- 
the belief, or imputation, 
un the boidi'i* of Lan- 
't !en»t in this direction, 



„chiU|rea lo p 

n pit in a 

itS't, ( 


Beza's Xew Testament (4»»' ». t. 28.) — Tho 
principal point is, whether the words Atytt Kituot, 
" saith the Lord," in IJeb. x. 10, are to be taken 
as part of the quotation from Jeremiah xxjri. S3, 
or OS the word* of the author of this KpisUe. 

The words of the Epistle 
are (Ileb. x. 10): — 

O^ff^fuu irpAj avr9vt /irrA 
K 1/^101, 3i8tivi t>fi)jjxus fiou 

yfMUftu mrraut. 

Tho words of the LXX 
are (_Jer. xxxriii, 31) : — ; 


'* This Ib UtiB eoreoMe 

thai i yriW make wiUi tlif-m 
uficr tliosc dflvfi, !taUh tlie 
Li>rtl, I will i>iit my Jaws 
into thpir htutrts and in 
their niinJrf will I -wrrito 

5«mtw voftova /lOLf <>« J'f^.i 

KAfiias &yrii¥ ypA^ tm^ 
"*r. ...::, A 

' "Forlhifl firarcftTenthttl 
that I will 1 li ib« 1 

bouse iif 1 Miose .J 

dayji, fioith t,.- .... ., [giv-'p 
ing.] I will put my laws . 
into their miDdii, and ilt 
thair huru will i wviic- 1> 
them." ' if 

So fer as IJeza ie concerned, it appears tliftt in», 
nt last, considered ** saith the Lord "to b» tho 
prophet JereniiahX and not Paul's, whom h©' > 
erroneouslr takes to be the author of thl^ Epiitlo,' f 
BloomtielJ has epitomised Kninoel, who says :— '* 

" Ilectisiimc Bnn, Luil. ile Di'cu, Storriuj, BUhraluit, 
alii, conne^uiit verba /arA yap irpntipijK^i'm fv. 151 cilci 
vrrhin Ar^e* Ki/ptas, ut ftdeo his verbU Aryci KSf^at 
apodnsls insit. Sunt quMcm verba \«y*t Kvfuoi in He- 
brafco textn, ct vcrtione Alexaodrioa verb* pivphutK, 
acd cptstuliu conditor ea iua facit, ct ad ta rtTcrt tiiita 
scqtiuntur. Qua. cadftm Jibcrtat« u^ui est, ii%tsUt ct'iAvx' 
10, 13." 

The words Cerrtpoy Kiy*t found at the beginning 
nf T. 17 in some MSS. are rejected by Griesbach ; .^ 
and we must treat Beza's rtPrr ^X^hm in the same ^J 
way. The Year 1518, ^von hy S. A. as the diiti} 
of Beta's Ufth edition, is the vear before bis birth, 
lie published his defence of the ©xecutiou of Ser- ,j 
vetuu at Oeuevft in 1053, ajid in 1073 he publitOjed ^j 
a counterblast to that work in \\\9 X)^ Jw6 Ma- 
t/isiratuum. lUs traniiUtion. of the New Te»tAm(Mtt .^ 
waa first printed nt Paris by U. Stephens in 1G57-' jj 
The best edition is said to bo that of C&mhndgo, t| 
1043, thirty-seven yetrs after his death, lu 160*] 
he succeeded his bast friend, Calvin, as teacher of u 
theology at Gonero, whoro he died Oct. 1^, l(X*t*. 

T, J. BCOKTQK^ ,. 

Cjuitac (4*" P. iv. 324 : v. 77.)— The criticwms ' ' 
of LA:Lrr3 on the usuiU fancv Tiewg of the ruina, 
or " saxft in«on>T,i..»n ;• ^;^■bK■heTt•r they be, 61 ^ 
Caroac in Br. 1 no doubt called for; and 

ho would fun. ..,^ if he could give us aft 

approximation of the nuniber of stones consti- 
tuting that remarkable monument, varying as they ^ 
do by iiin'ereut accounts from seven hundred to , y 



[4*s.v. rEB.6,ie. 

above nine Luudred. As they run in lines, one ■ 
would suppose they might be counted without | 
difficulty ; but as a fact we have no reliable | 
numeration of them. > 

The name Cartiac Is certainly identical with | 
that of the celebrated temple in E;rvpt, and such ' 
identity is explained by Chevalier liuuseu's dit;- | 
covery that the primitive Keltic of Europe is the I 
older' element in the composite language of an- ' 
cient Egypt. It is curious, however, that the i 
fantastic beings (dwarfs of pigmy size hut gigan- { 
tic strength, supposed by the peasantry to haunt ! 
and guard them) sliould be called **Corid" — ' 
elves that properly belong to a ** cor " or circle, j 
like Stoncliougc, not to line stones. It is possible 
that Carnac is the avenue to an enormous temple 
such as Avebury contemplated, but for some 
cause never begun, which would have been the 
*'cor " that g^ves its name to these sturdy Ariels. 
Cran is a head, because it is round, which is the 
xoot meaning of the Cymric cranj as cf its Latin 
cousin cranium. Cam ia another form, applied to 
a round pile or skull of stones ; but why it should 
be applied to stones in line, except for' the above 
reason that they were intended to lead to a real 
Cam-aCf or high circular temple, I cannot ex- 
plain — perhaps Lxltus can. Mos JI^Ieirioit. 


Bklive (4'^ a iv. 500; v. CI.)— This word 
occurs in Bums's ** Ode to a Iloggis " (describing 
the conclusion of the repaat) : — 

** Deil tak the hindmost I on they drive. 
While a* their veel-svailed kyted* Mitt 
Are bent like drums." 

* " Weel-swailed ky tes " => well-filled ItUkt. 

C. S. J. 

Position of Creed, etc., in Chitbches (d*** S 
v.^31.) — In the parish church of Fleet, near 
Spalding, Lincolnshire, before its restoration a 
few years ago, tlie Ten Comma:idments were 
placed on the eaH wall of the nave^ the Creed and 
Lord*8 l^ayer on the north and sot^A walls respec- 
tively. The reason in this particular instance was 
want of space at the east end of the chancel, on 
account of the size of the east window. I do not 
know of any church where the Creed, &c., occupy 
the wed wall of the nave. C. S. J. 

The end of the nave is considered to be the place 
probably intcuded by the rubric for setting up 
the commandments, &c. The ini'unction states 
"the east end of every church ani chapel whore 
the j)eople may heU see and read the same." 
Architects, a few years ago, began again to place 
them at the end of nave and aisles instead of in 
the chancel J more recently they have omitted 
tbem altogether. P, E. Maset. 

Two or three years ago, in the parish church of 
Hesaet, near Bury St. Edmunds, the creed in 
black-letter was found under the whitewash upon 

the wall of the south aisle above the piscm 
Signs of colour led to further examination, whai 
it appeared that the creed had been ioKnfaed 
over a very graceful head of a female sainL The 
style of the painting was altogether good,fitapeiior 
to the usual character of mural paintings. 

Could the object of placing tlie creed in tbii 
position have been to preserve the saint iiom ths 
ruthless hands of the Reformers ? E. M. D. 

The Bible kitowk to Axcisnt TtzLissm 
(4'" S. V. Gl.)— E. C. L. will find all he reqam 
and much more in Lardner's CredibHity if tit 
Gospel History, and in bia Jewish and SnAm 
Testimonies. T. J. BrcKTOH. 

" The Sistem" (4*^ S. iv. 576.)— The wdnn 
of "The Sisters" by C. W. (not E. M.) Cfl|«, 
R.A. is the property of Sir J. Watts of AIm^ 
HaU, Cheshire. H.E 

" The too CoxTBTBOira Ksi&ht " (4" S. iv.Sfil; 
T. 76.) — In addition to the remarks of Ha. Snu 
on this subject, mav I be allowed to qaate Ai 
following paasaffea oy way of illustration cf ihi 
"jaws of hell" from thd books of Isaiah uk 
Habakkuk P~ 

** Therefore hell hath enlarged henel^ and opmA te 
mouth without measure : aad their ^ory, and tbW mk^ 
titude, and their porop^ and he that rejoiccth, shall %t- 
Bcend into it." — v. 14. 

Thus 'given by Hshop Lowth ia hia 
taon: — 
**Therefore Hades hath enUrf^ed his appetite; 

And hath stretched open hu mouth mtbont bmsmi: 

And down go her nobitity, and her populace ; 

And her ba5<y throng, and all that exalt in Iwr* 

Lowth'ti Itaiak, ed. 1889, p. lOl 
Again, in Habakkuk : — 

** Who enlargcth hia desire as hell, and is as dnft 
and cannot be satisfied." — ii. 5. 

Thus translated by Bishop Lowth : — 
" Enlargcth his appetite like flades : 
And he is like death, nnd will never be satisfied.* 

Same ed. as above, p. 171 
Joni7 PicxpoKD, ILA 
Bolton Percy, near Tadcaster. 

I Popular Names of Catbxdrals (4** S. ?. fl-) 
! The cathedral at Worcester, as well as its vn- 

cincts, was locally styled *' the CoUege," boo, I 
I believe, still continues to be so callS bynnf 

residents in the city. Tiios. E. WiNvniazox. 

Salisbury, the Minster; Chicheater, the fiGgk 
Church ; Bath, the Abbey; the precinct of (^ 
' lisle at least, the same. 

MACKE5ZIB E. C. Walcott, B.D., FjSA. 

Some years ago, in talking to a boat-owner it 
Faversham, I asked the name of the owner d 
some land there. It turned out to belong to tl» 
Dean and Chapter of Canterbury ; but the aiisini 
to my question was " To the ' great chueh' it 

4*8.V. rFB.5.70.] 




I believe this U a common expires- 
Georob Bedo. 


^■Lt Peterborouglt we speak of tbo cathedral ta 
tlie Mifutler ; the clo»e is cftUed the Minuter Yard, 
,<», iuore sUicUv, the pariah of ihe Minster Pre- 
(ta. " W. D. SwBETiifO. 


IK SmtPLB OP St. Paul's f^J"* S. iv. 306.)— 
following extract ia from tlie Land Kevenue 
in in tho Public Hecord Office, and relates to 
the clochard, about which I made a note some 
little time »ince. It was lost to a worthless 
;bt by ll^nrr VIII. as a gambling debt, ac- 
r%o tradition : — 

i-ateplc aJJoyinTig npon Paal« clturehe yarde 

'the Cyt^'* of London eomonly eallyd Jr^us 

. _ aad imtwuMOients of tvmber worko coren^l with 

as alM or U)o frsme and belles ther wyih gutttni 

I pTpes vt Icade. 

fTlie sevte rnniejTijrth in brcadyth xx" yarrJes snd in 
xx" yard<i»,'and byere | f>y year] piitt iu valcw, 

rfij. cooteynyng xvii"*^ at xx* the hundredth, 


KAcncvm: K. C. Waloott, B.D., F.aA. 

iwARD CocKEU f4** S. V. (j3.)— In further- 
of Sigxa's inquirr as to ** Cocker," I would 
,fe£e7 him to the last vulumo of T/ic AOiencntm^ 
at op. 412, 4(13, 672, 700, he will tind a 
<re facttf to add to your own on the subject. 
Hihl altM> inf^irin vou that a descendant nf ihe 
Mr. E*.!wRfd Cocker is to be found in 
in the Strand, and is engaged on 
it is y^ty necessary to act " ac- 
ta Cocker." K. J. W. 

OF GoPERiCH (4»* S. V. 00.) — IIeh- 
II.LE does not seem to be aware that the 
"giwol dean'a" grandfather was vicar of Good- 
rich in Iferefoidflhire, and had property in that 
parieh and in Morstnn adjoining, '^he Rev. 
Tbomiin Sw^ift built a house on bi^ estate atOood- 
rich, callod now the New House, and hearing on 

♦' h bis inilinlfi and the data 16:^6. Ho 

■ \ moat of bi3 property to the roval cause, 
[«« ... ;1 in IttOH, leaving by his wife £li/. Drv- 
Mpp, aunt of the poet, tt;n tM>u» and fuur daugli- 
^UL .Ti-[i;ithan, the Ufth sou, was an attorueyat 
ilher of the dean. The frajruinnt of 
■ . -A property descended to Tbuophilus 
SwUt, aitho Iniih bar, who resided on it in 17lS0. 

C. J. UoBUfS05. 

AsToiXB DntK DE hkiJivs (A*^ S. V. f52.) — 
ni-nLirn-. ft.oirdii- / trt n iinfnn«l documont Signed 

- the sale of a landed 
i>: ; ^ , , \iitwiiM, not Anloirtf, 

■pi l<au<un with 9: ^^Vntonin Xompar de Can- 
■BBI L)uc de Ijiusuh.** He signs " Le Due de 
Lmsua C./* and his wife *' Genet-ieve de Dnrfort, 
Buebene de Laususl" Sha woa a " De Lorgea," 

not *' L*Orge/' without the accent and with «. 
The arms of Durfort due de Lorges (Guy Mi<^el 
de), Marshal d*» France fher father), 1702: — 

** EmrtpM : sa 1 p< 4. d'ar^jent, ^ In Imnile de |»tieiil«", 
qui est do Darfort; au? ct 3, do ^eule«, bu Unn d*ari;«Dt. 

E' Mt de Doras ; sur lo tout au Umbel d'ur a trois pea* 

la 1001 Lausun was still cohhL He manied 
Miss do Durfort two years after the death of 
Mdlle. de Montpensier, which took place in 1093. 
He was tt " cadet de famiUe," bom in Qaacony ctrw 
lOaS, and died Sept. 19, ]72t(, upwards of ninety 
years old. Saint-Simon and Madame de S^vign^ 
give ample details on this singuUr peraon. 

Antoine Nompar de Caumont, corote and duke 
de Lanmn, first known at court as Marquis de 
PnTffnilbem,bom lC>.**.3,ftnd died 1723. After the 
di'Ath of the Duchess de Montppnsier, with whom 
ho had been secretly married, he married ia 1696 
the second daughter of the Marechal de Lorgw^ 
aged nxtecn. There were no children. 


CHArcFR'a BoB-up-ATTD-Dowir (4"* S. iv. 609 J 
V. 71.) — From Mil CowrEa's opening romarka 
one would suppose I have introduced a new 
" plan ■' of replying to an article which appeared 
in another paper. Mb. Cowpek is protesting 
ngaiuat bimsell. The very " plan " he objects to 
and attempts to father upon me is a brat of his 
own. Mu. CowpcR admits to having adopted 
this very practice at p. 519 of the previoua 

Mr. Cownm intamates T hare waited a year 
before replying to his communication in The 
AtKfiHetum. To this my answer is the following 
note, signed by myself, which appeared in that 
p^per of March C last : — 

" Chanctr ShtiHe*. — A eotnmnnication from the Chan- 
cer Atndciit, who declare* for Thiuininp*(m m * Bob-up- 
nnd-Down/ mipenrs in The JlheHtrvm o{ t>ewnjber 26th, Thw theon- U open to the fuUnwin^; objections : — 
The Villi' of Dunkirk came inlo os.i*lenco, and waa first 
occupied by aquation*, in the early pnrt «if last c«itury ; 
there is no' authority for giving U'>uK)itoi) Hill a Oad'a 
Hill notoriety, <"onhequcntIy the pilgrims had no reason 
fir quitting tlic beat-known and naual road to Canter- 

Mb. Cowper based hia theory to a great ex- 
tf^nt upon Hasted. I conclude he \a an\ioiis to 
arrive at the truth, and this 15 whv 1 showed 
Hasted bad been misundiTSitood. This caoDot 
annny any one, surely. 

If the extracts from Chaucer relating to robbew 
and thieves refer to Ospringc, so much the worse 
for Mr. Cowpek's theory. If, on the contrm, 
BoughtoD is meant, what was the object of the 
pilgrims in g"oing from one part to another of " the 
(no doubt) robber-haiinted forpst'*? 

3Ir. Cowpkh's remark to the effrct thai I 
am ignorant of the meauiiig ol ** -ycVi^V ^l^^. 


mbmil^ rathQF'B proof nf hl« t«m)wr!th&iT 'irty 
%nannce. Miltou U trotted ont to ihaw a iaU 
mlUtfiib of Uio word I If any one con diacover 
llh-wlivt'l raid of the word anytbinff to varmnt the 
U8« of 8uch luupungci (i* I Hm objecting to, then 
I will cotif^s^ I know nuthiuf^ of plain Kd^IUL. 

Til* two great pilgrim road» to Canterbury I 
kqow well ; the '' uiettk liUle country lanca " con- 
neot them. 

In eonclivdoDt If I thonpfht the foregoiaff 
would irritato Mb. Cowpsr in the elight^ftt, 1 
would say nothing. Of that lAtntloman personally 
i iavo alwny.i bad a hi^h opinion, but I confer 
that opinion would be coastdorably modiOcd if I 
thought he would be annoyed because I come- 
tiuies differ from him. I faojie Ho will take my 
Temarks as they ai-e made— in a g'ood Spirit. 

GxoiteE BsDO.' 

C, Palross Road» Drixbon. 

•^-^XoiW) Bthon's *'Imm LadV" (4* 3. y.BO.)^ 
Mb.' J. J, IjAifB wiji find tlie aDsw<?r to bisinqutfy 
ail to this lady irtHyroo's letter to Bowles (Moore a 
edition of Z*/e and 1V<ir^^rL d&Sh, yrhetf tMa 
pasaagQ appears:-^ '"' ■ ■ ■ ^ .:> 

" But always excopUng the Venns a^ Medicia, 1 dirtcr 
from thai opiniun, at least an far u rcgartlH ^.'inalc tenuty ; 
for tbi- lipwi of J.adr Cbarieraont (when 1 Hfpt ««w her 

•uiiie 5uin> a^fu) seatnotl to possess all that soulpcnreR- 

.quindfor iU Ede&l." 

,';,,t.ady Charlemont was the daugbter ofWm. 

' Beuuinghaiu, Esq., of Bosa Ilill, in the county of 

Gttlway, and wife of Prancis seoond Karl of Charle- 

mccit, whom ehe still suryivea. She waa the firet 


oallior ftocesfiion, by whom her bust (by Moore) 

wa« placed in tho curxidur of Windaor Co&tle. 

A very beautiful bust, aa a work of art and aa a 

Hkenesfl, was t^xecuted by Nollekena iu Lady 

Oh(plemont's c&rly life, buJ was ^roba^y tlie one 

[.td which Lord Byron, alluded iu the libM to 

, ..whicli. ^Ib, La^uh rafers. I)^ V. 

, ' . IJRoiDED Hair, 1 Tim, ii. (4*" S. iv. 261,301, 
'•'iSl, 626; V. 09.)-^W«''»^rf'6ocilrtln C&dnoer'B 

'••'KnighteaTale'"-^'^ ' ■-■'-'' ' ■■* ''''' '''■■' 

^ ' ' ' " Hh-e ydwe liero Vas !rt-oirt«l In ft tfdsife, " * ' 

Bthlnd hftr back, « yerdc loa(? I ^wsOb". ' I i .> 

And Tyrwhitt gives the meaning of it'il^ ** jftlrt. 
,^n, Fr. hraidftl, woven,*' 

J I This word has bcon confttunded ■n'ith hrmtUredy 

'^TPjiich has a dilVercnt meanintr, |ind is npplied to 

cloth Qixod. xjviu. 4; Ezek. xvi. 10/ i:i, 18; 

jxv\, IH; xxviJ. 7,,lQj 24), namely emhroidcretif 

J mid which has nevertheless forced its way into 
thp text of Timothy as read in the Church of 
England. Embroider)' is stUl the constant occu- 
pntion of women in the Kast The Greeks bad 
other names for the style of bair-dressing, as 

ifAnXoH^ (1 Pet. iii, 3), irAiJxa^ot, //iirXuKioc, $6<Trpux*>Si 

Kifivn$otf and aKop9tos, The two words used by 

Paul and Peter 

uro^tutca commonly dxesaed tbair 

Schlo " ■ 

u^ner. vovevMyn^ 


in tr. 

l)OCimENT, sxc. (!"' 
this word in Zear^ tut 
The iweofit in th-:- 
tainly leems to mu . 

its odmi^ion into a gluasmy. It i 
within tho last few week^, I Uefi- 
lips of a BorsetahirQ rustic thus b]' 
treasured it for your pagea. An -. 
beeu guilty of marking a new ch 
with her pattena, and the indigruiu 
having discovered the c f"^ 
be " had given slw her tl 

I venture to think thHi <.;i': ^ 
your rcfldera, not being as conycr:' 
Oo&NEt with andent literature -^^ 
Ut be^an obeoleto exprcasion, 
tion. . . L. ■ .. 

WARwrctsHTRB Lbokvds <4*Ke, r, B3;)--f 
alwavs underetood Sir R. Mallns was a natm-M 

Perefiore, and we liope to oJaim for thatdisiiB- 
guished Iftwyer a place in <»iH' foturo Worcwii^ 
shir« biogrnpUies. Thus, E. Wnryrjioraf. 

1 "AciOiESAmJWJi; >'> '-'" S. ir. 4» 


** Occurrit «x«inploin Caesari^ llortiiij \ 
qui audacioi quani aliquis alios t^QMlcn^ 
ncrii Diiycstatbiii sibi ^olUciliLt, i;i'' 
ilH* ttppin;^! corar-.-t illud vulj'.-- 
nuffOf la est. Am Cwsar, nut nulln 
mMcra interceptor vatirlnii Iociud ii>v«utl : *&\ nno ifWn 
ipc mngniiiea sibi propojiuerat, luqu* 4a eu ilc Ivt 
bannosariuf : 

" Aut nihil, aut Caesar vult dtc! B^r 
Cum aunul et Cai^ar poaoC, ct c- - 
** Idenique in dundcffl I 
*^* Omnia TiDoeha9,sp«rab«s oronbrCacpx : 
Omnia ddiciimt, incsrij issc nibiLV 

"'•.; ■■ •■■■ .'/'' ■-.. -,/'/ ^ ' '■ 
I'm Rbv. GrpoRoa BKwrpi; <4j*. S^ iv. M 
5G3 ; T. .50,) — Mjt. PiOKFOUD is right in remintCDf 
me that I have Tiokit^d one of youx mMt \d- 
portaut and useful roles by Q,ot quotiB;{ xbT 
autbfMty for the Account I gnvo of this learow 
divine. It was an improper omieaion on my part, 
and 1 now add that all Uie pArticulaiQ werr fm* 
nishc-d to mu by my much -respected friend til* 
Bevcrend AtadreW Bennet, B.I>., minister ot 
ClusebuTli in Dumfciu6shire> eidost son o^ t&< 
Bev. Q^i^e Bonnet. Mk. Pick^orD, howctir, 
is correct^ I have no doubt, in saying thai M^ 
Markham was prebend of Carlisle when Mr. Ika- 
nct became acquMnted with him. 1 find that I 
had midHnderstiK>d Br. Bennet in calling hni 
archdencou of Carlisle j it should have b*ea» Ii 
Mr, Pickpord says, of York. Indei^rl, I irt" 
myself aware, though it had escaped uiy tvc<*1- 

&Vi ft».^5»'70i] 



lection fit tlio tim© I ' - nnta, that his 

friend l>f. Prtlov was ; l of Cnrlitilo. I 
mftr add iLrI the Kev, Mr. iieaiiet wait bora in 

i75l. "t Alwrdour in Fifesliiro, nttemUng tbo 

p* ' ■ * ' ' ' "* * rained a bvirAftrv 

*» ■.rial, be htmiiH 

^: iL.'ii IT. John Hunter, ftnd 

G He "was ftpnoiiitod in 1701 

t . ■._> ;■ ii.Lu church in Cnnislc, wh^re 1k» 

jv n' li*07, ^hon he Wtts transfprTied, 

IL. I'r.fln.iii-.i of Archdeacon .Mnrkhnm, 

t. y also observe that I am 

t ' . w hen Ilia fathf r refas^Hl 

u : (.liurch, it was not ^o 

iL 1 tn its tenets fts fr-^m 

A ■ countrr, wlierp 

h numy "attaclu'd 

f., simple forms of 

1] I'h mattcra-^rith 

r .:y. Ho cliuriahed dnrin^ the 

V / life a -wflmx adtnimtinn of Hie 

uio iiiij'U ftL-iiuuir.-iiip 
of whoni, M I liftve 
(;..ri*-.s|.(.iiJed oa terma of iho 
Th"? correspondence of wliirh 
n' .. ,1^ crtrried on l>y Mr. Bonnt-t with 
led Knjrlish divines at the end of tbc 1»wt 
inning of tho prMent century, and which 
iKrn nftturally regarded as specially honour- 
'f fiiUier. wfts uafortunatoly dodlroyed 
iiLbt ten yoar-^> along with hU 
■ iMSomQ of the lettors might hare 
-nt interest to be tecowled in tho 
'.-I •.-^ti/* C'RArFrsD Rahaoe. 

MinxStK ns GRTG»\!f, FTC. (4'*' ft. V. 03.)— 

•^-, .w^ M^ --neritede S^vigni^bom Oct 10, 

.n. 2tt, 16<W, to Francois Adleina 

I juito de tiri^nnn, died Au^. 10, 

three chllilren : Marie Blanche de 

nun, biirn Nov. lo, 1670, died in 

'.iivt-nc* do Oiiguon, l>om Nov. 

Vr 1701 (n*^ ohildrt'n); Pauline 

i>1 July 5, 1737, mar- 

X?. r. TT. andothori will we that the nbwo etnbracos 
*tiu Liur hate said. ( )nr correspottdcot, boi*9Ter,cives 
i\.f uu 'r,( i.Lftb u HHH.— Kp, " N- a Q."] 

r.u« OP SrauioiTa, 1680 (4**" S. v. 62.) 
.... .xiiagine that the Tolnme of MS. sermons 
It th«i jMMsesaon of Vox must have belonged 
iUt to on« of the IxrwDdes (amily, and from 
;^ at the becinning, have been nreacfaed 
lov ??trfttft>Ta, in Buckinghamaniie — a 
ilrh they have been long connected. 
** liide" mentioned is, I suppose, the 

«r i^ Author. 

M 3. volumes of eornton^ of a similar character 
are often met Willi, imd teem to have boon ini 
frequent u&e towanU the eod of tho seveateentli 
and the b«gimunK of the eitfliteeath century. rV 
cWrfrymnD ha» told me he bnlieved himself to bo 
iho fortunate possessor of a volume of tUii kind; 
used, tuu, in the pulpit in thio munDor, and oon- 
taiuinf^ outrinnl sermcma by the learned Ji>deplt 
Hiitler, author of the --Iviti/o^ of litligum^ and 
Bishop of Durhfltn. He (rrounda bis theory ou 
the renmrkuble BiiniUntr of etyie and nrirumont 
in his MS. volume to those of Bittlor'a publishai 
sermon^i; and if tbc theory i^ correct, the M3. 
blight to bo givea to the vroild in a printed f^nnna. 

]}olt<Mi Percy, ncir Ta*]ca<itur, 

[Ounnot Mn. Puxbvhd iadttc« his &iand la ittbmtt 
tbo TOlpnid t9 amne one capable of forming aa opinion as 
to iuvnlue <•— Kl>. "N. & Q."J, , ,. I j., ■ ,. ,.>| ,, 

Sti;u:li.\u would fvviyii^ar to liavo b«i>none of liio 
■f Btilhi mrtniioned by 
mivHonnry^ who nccom- 
Tijiui^rU Utu Luipeior .Vlcbnr in lus ioumoy to 
Ko/^hmir, rtjterred lo by Cnptniu AViliord in tlio 
followln;^ extract:— , -, 

**The MjiiiicheAns wcrtCliraiLtana) and when Father 
MoHi'rrstiru At Di'llt, at tbe Conrt of Aobar, he via 

informed that near that m^-lrnpolijs S.W. of it, Tufl:hlnn 
Ji\i/^\ ne»r the pal«cc of l'if'> - - v *'■' ■ i-' - --i-m-u of 
th<»nnnent kings of Ibat ' 'iiU»i 

\vh^<^h were nsscirted iA b** ■ -ifK^-s 

fif tvlili, who were Christima. :iiiil L' . > ro 

tiic iiivaaion of (he Mus«ulmAiij. Jjth' ■ '» 

I th«y diJ upi l"i ' f ' M'-i-'v y^h-- : 

they oould hj.r 

IMtssflilf, tliat 1 . 

aiftCP thp fllm^^ i>f tltns*' iiinnnj:; liif m wli<> Iirll in hntUe 

or dir>d nOicrwuK! in the hcKitininii! of their invAAion ,ir<3 

l^.lr .'.I nii-'ii in iil.'iiTJi 111" w*ir-tiin. jiii.i (Im^iMiii Ii chtro 

in n-ia.-, nr ItKit nr \\\n .Muibii I-'' i"vii/-:i. n: jlnula 
Hartlis, on the Xarbudda.]— S#«if«r^ffarf{r)j««nc*e#, 
vol. ix. p. 'Jli 

AVilford gi vea hia mformation out of the original 
Latin MS. belonging to Montserrnt, hut ' does 
not say how it came into his posaessiou. iVs far 
as I can ascartaln, no mention, at all events by 
thia name, is made of him in the Akbar Nama, 
and thonrrh inquiries have b«*en made at tha 
British and Kfa^ington Museums, T have entirely 
failed in finding ont nnvthing further about hia 
trnvols. The discoloured paten at tho end of tbo 
book mar have been yellow arsenic, which Iho 
natives of India, e:<pecially the Hindu'!, are in the 
habit of smearing over different parts of their 
books, as a preservative against io^tects. I Im- 
proved upon this practice by keeping sheets of 
paper, steeped in a mixture of paste and yellow 
arsenic, in all my books, but did not find it, by 
any means, an effectual remedy- A work, Ob* 



[4^8. V. Wmm.B,*S9. 



sen^atiotut made in Cetflon h*f Siraektm ( TVoM- 

odtQiM VhUoaophicaU ^(^• 378, vol. xxui.jt ifl no- 
ticed by Boucher dv la liicharderie {BibiiUhique 
Univeraciie d<m VojfageurSf vol. v. p, llil, 1808). 
Perhspa this mny aaaiat H. Y. in followiaj^^ up the 
ioquiry. ' R, K, W. Elus. 

tiurcroois mar Eitelor. 

Ownx "WritRE, Skbjbaxt-at-Law f4"» S. v. 
02.) — The silver waiter described ia clearlj' on 
old one, manufactured lonp: before it waa in the 
poeseasion of Kobert Williams, M.P. in 1741. 
Owea Wvnne was one of a batch of sixteen «er- 
jeanta aiiled in S5 Charles II., 1683. The motto 
on their rings was "A Deo Rex, a Re^e Lex." 
(See JudffM of Enyhfidj vol. vii. ]). 30.) 

Edwabd F086. 

Kit's Cott House (4*^ S. v. 32.)— "When a 
boj of thirteen, I walked to Kit*e Coty House, 
pi^Iy to Bee a " Dniidical monument,'* partly to 
seek the explanation i>f the legend I had heani, 
" that a cavity in the top stone could never be 
emptied of its water." 1 well remember ex- 
amining the Btonea to make eure that they were 
truly separate. AVe then climbed to the top, and 
there I found not one, but two main cavities con- 
taining water, and communicating by a channel 
or Aperture in the dividinff portion of the stone. 
My boyish conjecture waa that some rustic, ig- 
norant of the communication, had tried to empty 
one by pouiing the water into the other, and had 
been aatoDiehed to Und that hid aide remained as 
full, or nearly OB full, m before. After all, the 
tale aa Hwas told to me nmy have been a cor- 
roptiou of the tale told to >1R. IhTTTKi:^ ; and I 
have no dilhculty in believinj^ that, iu a rainy 
country like Enplnnd, some little water would be 
found in the^e cavities in nil or<.linary seasons. I 
haveoft<;n wi-»hed to re-exnmine the stone, having 
never be*»n able to diveat myself of the idea that 
these cavities, whether natural or artificial, were 
intended to bo there, and were connected with 
sacrificial riles (or the ceremonial use of pure 
water). Such re- exami nation would be worth 
the labour of any neicbbouring antiquary and 
geologist, and it would also be worth learaiufr 
whclhtr the top atones of other cromlechs (I apeak 
in these things i^orantly) have similar cavitiea, 
or any dish-Iiko mcurving of their upper surface ; 
or whether such cavities have anv analogy with 
" the cuppings " noticed on the old burial stones. 
So far as 1 remember, I noticed no " deep cavi- 
ties" in the uprights, nor did I hear any other 
legend retnirding this house of stone. In the 
neighbourhoud, however, are or were a number of 
stones, of which it was said they could never be 
twice coimted alike. I rather think that the 
devil — that popular substitute for the dctis rt 
machma — got tne credit of thid ingenious puzzle. 

B. NicaoLsoN. 

Aa the atonej; forming this KentijAt Canae i 
of the aandstono of the district, from their poroM 
nature the^ would, like a ffpoii^c, hold a tam 
quantity oi water. In hot weitther the sun would 
of course draw up the water from the hodv of ih* 
capstone (and perbaps from the Lhree npnghla m 
well) into the cavity, and as the dew li vay 
heavy in summer, the water displaced by erapm*. 
tion would be partly replaced by it at ni^^ht. to 
occasional alinwer maliing up for the remaindor, 
I have little doubt of the correctness of the «*^ 
facts as related bv Mb. Dxthkis'* xnfoniUB^ 
although I doubt if it tUtcaye contains wat«r «i 
the top. GsoKGB QkdQu 

6, Pttlrofls Bead, Brixtoo. 

Medals (i"* S. v. 15.)— T really do not know 
why Bklfasx has called upon mo to au'^wer hil 
query, as I know very little about medoU, with 
the exception of those relating to secret sttcietiwj 
but aa the name of Belfast has a peculiar clala 
upon me, I will endeavour to satisfy him is ftff 
08 lies in my power. Of the first I know Dot&iOf 
more tlian can be seen from the medal it*elf. TU 
sun of the first year of George I.'s reign fthedf 
it* beneficent rays around all. Of the two femjiio 
figures, the one clothed and apparently in h'-^r right 
miud, with the word*'SrAi*KRE " in front of h«r; 
the other semi-nude^ seemingly insane, gra^^ici^ 
the sun with her nght hand, while she fpunrt 
the world with her foot; the^e two may Uj W4fl 
explained by the following lines from Defosk 
"Hymn to the Mob": — 

*' Pcrauosion must Atteoipt to maWft them ttfU, 
Aad if |)crsuaciuQ won't thu |j:.-l11uws will.** 

l*robably the medal refers to the pr 
rrtised by tlie mob that year iu London, o, 
rchelliou in .Scotland. 

The second one refers to a Charles Sackvillp 
beinij made a master nf a Masonic lodge. If I» 
wnj the man of the fiamc name who wof eeoood 
Duke of Dorset, and died in 1701. the MasdV 
have not much reoHon to be proud of him. 

The third medal is a well-known one. ' ' 

Keen man^ specimens of it, pennv, halfp. [ 
farthing size in copper. The ".tuly 1-ltL. -. 
upuu it refers to a public dinner held on ibfit dij 
in Biruiingham, iu honour of the anniv«r»tfrv d 
the captiu-o of the Bastile; for many gn-iit ari 
good men in England welcomed the breaking out 
of the French Revolution, though as it pioglssMl 
to scenes of horror and bloodshed they relucturt)T 
were compelled to change- their o'piniona A 
mob shouting "Church and king I " broke into 
the tavern in search of Dr. Priestley, who fo^ 
tunately was not there, and vented their di«ip> 
pointment, in not taking summary rengeanfit oa 
aim, by burning aud destroying his houae and Out 
of manv others, Birmingham being actually k|J*8 
up to them for four days. The Church and Aiig 



of their great Bueoefa in thus putting 
30, &a they chaae to term it. 
IS t4)ld oU I know about these medala, 
1 BUggect to Belf^t, la makinn; onj 
», alwnjs to state what metal the 
atUDed in. Williajc Pqvkkrtum. 

I Pabtt (4*'' S. iv. see Index.) — Your 
d leAroed contrihutor Mu. Hkhmaak 
bos for come information upon this 
Mues O. HalliweU, iu Wis Jh'ftt'ottnn/ of 
i Provitwial Words (i, 'J48, London, 
es thia word thua: " Chowder ^ & tiah- 
OQ." Thia diah ia not peculiar to the 
tes; for in Horatio JToirard Brettton, 
lif Kdward Belcher, K.X. (I^ndon, 
BOf eh. T.), be gires the mode of Nora 

Artmiral W. IT. Smrth, in hin Saibtrt' Ward- 
ifl recipu lor the chtnpder of * the Biuks of 
V "— Vide p. 199, LoiHion, 1B67. 

* enoagh, H. doea not state the ctymo- 
I wonL Perhaps som<3 contributor to 
who is up in the dialect of Devon- 
decide thia point. N. 

Soyos (-l*** S. ir. see Index ; v. 21.) — 
t, in hia liiatory of the compoditioii of 
Lamplighter," aays it v:^ written in 
t, I think, moFit be a slight mistake ; 
k of scngs purchased by my father in 
.Vfiff Vocal Enchantress, the "Lamp- 
pears at p. 249. It hma an engraved 
it date. In the same volume ia also to 
ily Poll and my Partner Joe " ; at the 
which it is stated to be ** written and 
r. Dibdin " — thus in a measure con- 
MU iVa account of it (4^" S. iv.4S8). 
WrLLiAM Uab&uok. 

ExoiuvEBS (4** 8. v. 14.) — Your 
it UKRMAKy KiKDT asks about Mr. 
I knew Mr. Denforth many years 
rica 03 a noted engraver, and one of 
Danforth, Vail, Si Ilufly— the largcat 
in of engravers in America. Suhse- 
firm haa been mergvd in that of The 
ank Note En^ravinff Company, which 
praving of all the U.S. national bank 
lal stock, &C. They aUo do the en- 
tile Italian government. I think Mr. 

still living. The president of the 
r. Topham, is spending the winter in 

hope to hear from him in regard to 
W. W. MuBPnY. 

Flstcukb, Xoetos, Eso. (4^ S. 
K. C, N. Wmonx seems aoni^what 

the late WiUiam Fletcher Norton, 
cm Manor, and of 6, Mansfield Street 

He was the illegitimate son of a former Lord 
Orantlev, and never professed to be anything ebe, 
ni."^ arms were those of Norton of Ornntlfy, with, 
I presume, a mark of illegitimacy. Elf^n Manor 
belonged to hia firirt wife, Miss LTrsula Launder. 
He married, secondly, Mra. Lushingtoo, better 
Imown 08 Mrs. Wilhani Camac. As he left no 
family^ and his parentage was perfectly well 
known, this counectioD can diBtreai nobody. 



614 ; v. 46.) — Of coorae the stone at tlie Troitsa 
Convent, near Moscow, ia well known. I saw it 
last year: it is a cut agate, about six inches in 
circumference ; on the ^ce of it aro plainly to be 
seen a crucidx, and the kneeling figure of a monk, 
both black. I examined the stone closely, but 
could not make oat that it had been tampered 
with. U. A. St. J. M. 

WART-riKT.D Pakibh Chttrch (4"» S. V. 92.) — 
To your querist who asks, " Can nothing bo done 
to stop '* the laying down of a black and white 
chesB-ixiard pattern floor in this ancient build- 
ing, I reply that the plan for it, though not 
originated, was at least sanctioned, and the tech- 
nical arrangements for it made, byGcorgc Gilbert 
Scott, Esq., the architect If an R. A. thinks 
that a 6aor like a Stafibrdahire farmer's kitchen 
ia appropriate to a Gothic choir, or an F.S.A, 
approve* of the tearing up of the tonrb-atones of 
an extensive and important pariah like Wakefield, 
or a man of Mr. Scott'a eminence is ready to 
decade himself to sanction the first plan tug- 
gestod by a local committee, what cnti be done P 


« A Pnr JL Bat is a Gboat a Yeab" (4**' 8. iv. 
36.1)— la not Franklin the originator of this 
saying? Somewhere in hia writings occur the 
following lines : — 

'* A penny tared ib twopence clear; 
A pin a day la a groat a year.** 

D, Macpiujl, 


S. iv. ]*J3.) — It has been shown that thia phrase 
ia capable of two meanings : the original one, now 
obsolete, that not an atom of love was dropped 
but it was gathered up and garnered; and tho 
present, or, as it may be called, the ironical one, 
that thero was no love to lose. But it has not 
been noticed, though I think it worth adding, 
that Tony Lumpkin is made to use it in boUi 
senses, whon in Act iv. he, more suoj ia humbug- 
ging and making a fool of his mother: — 

** Afr». Sard, .... my pretty* dovea I What, biUing, 

exchinging iitolen glances, and broken marn)ur*; nli I 

Tony. A* for RiarmitrH, mother, we gnimblf a little 
now and tlicn, to be sure { but there's no lovt htt hohoten 






Amy* HMtmvt and the Earl of Ltjfcesttr: u Critical 
Inffuirff into the Ahtfientidfy nf the various l^tfitrmeitt* 
4n Hetniion tn the Death oj' Amye Robiart. and of ike 
IM.>fh an the Knrl ttf Lfycetttr, with n VimiicnUon of 
ihf £arl try his Nepficw Sir Philip Sydntii - and u 

* Jii*t><rji of Kmiltetrrth CaatU, including i;r f •- * - if" 
tfu Sliiendid Kntcrtainment frivtn tn Qutfr 
'the J-jizrlof Leyvt^ttr in Ii"5, from thr W'n' rt 

/.aneham and GeorQt Goicoi^e; togethrr uiiit JJi.avira 
and Corretpondeuce of Sir ]{abert Dudley, Son of the 
J-Zari of LeyasUr, Bif George AdUtd. (J. Uuudl 

<The ample lilUvpnge, which we hBTe just transcriboi)* 
will alit^w that Mr. Adlard hoA Ukd bAppy Ui the choice 
(if a »D))jcct for hh inrtuirios. The niclancfaolr fnu nf 
Leicester** tlrtt wife, Aiuyo Rohurt— <tn which by n 
{n«Kt witehronism Sir Wollyr Srott founded hin adinir- 
nble hif'torical storj-, and which formi*d the t:round-work 
of roofit pricrous charfjea pcrMstenlly reiterated n;>aiiMt 
her hiisliand — h Invnlwl in a mvulMV which Mr. Arilnrd, 
like all who havs proccdcd him, das ffuled to clear u|a He 
ahares Pottif^w'a opinion as to her death, and acquiM 
Dadley of Iha chorgt nf murder ; and holds that, " ffoadnl 
lo deMpnlr hy the neglect of "hrr h'j»«tan(l, tlicre mif^ht 
exUt an aberration of mtud which would bo likely to 
lead lo »n involiintary act of self dcatmctioa.*' But no 
dtivi not attciiipl to excuAO he.t huf)hAnd of grent want of 
filing and iii.>i;!cct when the intelligence rvachtvl him. 
Kti. AdUrd 14 ulro'^«>tlicr • strong partizxa of Leicester, 
bat his iidvocary i^ oWtn more ».*alou9 thou critiral ; and 

wr ! ' ' \—^ ■-' 1.. -;-f- will ay;r« with him in rft:oj;- 

ni- ^tr Uobcrt Dudley, I.eicestor*M 

Bom. ^ -li^fiicld. But despite of any 

ah('rtc>aiuu-% Mr, AJLird's vclumc ia a etirioua and iti. 
tcmtiii;; monograph of all ihat has hitherto been pro- 
dtiLTd upnn the luatoricul r)uestiua which it i^ inlend^.'d, 
toiUuatrato. ' ' 

Tie Jiojfol Stipretaaejf m MaUert EcfUnoMlieal in Ptc 
Jtrfvrmativn Ttmen. Bishf*p GttrdtHtrB Oration on 
True Obedience, tn/A Binhnp Bfmner'% Preface, and 
Ifiit/i Extrai.t» from the Public Heconts ua tUuttratuiH nf 
ilt< tuime tahjtct. Edited hy B. A. jlcywood, M.aI 
MnHeyvood'a littk roluiuo, de«licat«d to the BIsIiop 

of Petcrboroaje^h^ i:« well dtMning th« attention of all 

wlw are intoreaUd in the important qoestlon to which U 


The ParHcal WorkM of Olicer Gitidsmith. (BeB A 
T'--'- - -'vr edition of the .^/i/itie Goldsmith, with 

th' i'*o new Poomp, Vida's Game of Chess, a 

xk\ . I'lcd'a Lifo of GoUsuiitb, and Bomo addi- 

Hor.iil Notca. 

d. Begister of the Landt held by Cathoiic* and N<m-Juror» 
in the County of Kent in tht Beiqn of Klny Georffe J. 
/edited b^ W. H. Hart, F.S.A. (Bn^-f^l Smith.) 
This publication of tb<' H^tum^ so fur t\% they relate to 

tb« tounty of Kent, mado fiursuiiDt ti> the Arts of l»l rtud 
9thG«iTr« I., wtw preserved in tbc Public iCeconl OlEo.', 
is uot only of Importance A3 illiiMmting Kentish topo- 
f^rapUy, bat oUo fur the Light it tlirows up^Jn our aocfnl 

An Etumi4oaicat DietiOmsry of the French Eanguaae. Bv 
Edward Pick, Ph,l). (Murray.) 
Dr. Pick, in punuance of hit plan to make learning by 
" a logical and nut merely a mechanical procese,^' 

attd of bia belli/ ** tldt a word ii xoorc easQr nian 
ifwc trace it in other languages alre^Jj ^oariL 
has prepared this diclionar}* of all the wonlr 
Trench ianguai;^. or at le«i( t&eir r^ietla, wf 
found ill the b^f-t nothoni, with Ihrir 
Such ft dtctioBarr cannot bat be uac^l. 

Sir Walte« Scott's Woukr. — A : 
who wa» for oiany ytjtn manager of M 

publishing- hoOae at Ediutar^Hi, ha«i f.ivocn.-l ui . 

following particalm* coHHf t't.-il with tb« me^haal 

duclion of Sir \VAlt«r Scott's wMri.. _7». ,.i^,. 

l*iWI, th«r» had betn pri; 

".MT.^OO volume*. Thcr. 

9'J,iii*2 rwimn of paper, wei. 

E»Hlii'U4 exhauatLHl 'J27,&,: 

gn>n weight of paper in lli 

amounted to 4,<*93 tonft. I i 

entire works Were 10fi>l? . 

would cover 3,3ti3 squaxc miit^'i.— /ro.-i 

CuAituiiu RuoEaa, LL.D. 

Fui.L-LKNiiTit portraitit 
Cirtlinai >Iazarin. paiateJ i 
werL' formerly in the Colonui . .. 
the Hotel Bfunot. and r^ali^ed t 
J^oiT, Duche4H de V«ndnme, 1- 
Duchcsse dc la Meill«,'raie, remarkjtt>: 
*.'2/. S*. -W.i MiiriL- (l;i Conn<fta!.Ie). I 

celebrated for her gallanlxics and jiilvts 

OlyrapCi ComtcAte dtt Soiuons, tnuther ui Pni 
of ^avoy, '2<it. Bs. id, j iiuU Marie Anuc, DucJ 
BaneUar, 2H. IGi. S4, 

A ConnrsposDENCE published fn We^.nts^ki^ 
brings to light a didgraceroL att' : ' * 

person, who.<iQ name is not given, t 

Tconyaoii. Tlie man by some nu 

of a copy of twelva small poems l»y ii 

wliich have nevor beon publighed, but si - 

have been privatuly printed. ThcM' 1,, 

Fields, Osgood, & Co., Mr. Tonnv l - ; i )-.■ 

fiostoa«U.^., for the sumof'ioU/. 'W'n a;>^ : . i 

man who thus profw.ted to make Sot)/, out 

maii*8 work is our fellow-conntrymnn. and 

abont poimds, and not dulbii.- ' ' ■ 

this dirpction. It h rt-ayiiri 

ous lone of the publishers' :■ ■ ■ 

do with publishing poera» which ''only 

coalidence on the part of some persons < 

their way into tlie .Amerioau market/* \V c Lur-r 

to believe that othur American pobltshers d:id pitroiis 

theae poems. 

TiioooiT we have bwn eompflled to clooe <^\. 
to Masonic controversies, yet, aocordlug to Ih, -„._, 
World, "The ' Free and Accepted Masooa' K«n (air 
fiourlsbing. Have tlior not at Uwir hea«i iltc PtiDersf 
W'aXes ? iiave they not a fine tavern in Great t^uwi Si«* 
wt apart for th«ir^pvcial delectation ? Is not the .<«ai9 
ymies their and havo llior n<> 
school at Wood Green? Wc tiow" b 
Masonic Sheet Calendar for 1870, to he y^ 
John Hugp, 14, York Street. Covesii Gar.i.-n. wj 
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iH-cn projected for tbo sole benefit of the Mi 

Ix the removal of the earth, consequent on aaene d tkl 
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work of the third century; but on the Ii i - 

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lowed me to publish in " N. k Q." 
Mt of uotcs aod emcndatians on 
it was in fact a mere akimming 
e. I hftvc rea»on to feel particularly 
Ml for that publication, aa it conduced 
inv becumiug the eaitor of a new 
}lfev*a Poem^ now recently brouifht 
» coancea and miachancea of oditiug 
nfr. this new isatic nUo contains some 
I 1 ahould feel very (grateful if you 
to correct in your puf^e«. Of 
included iiT the list of errata 
end of the 8helloyi rol. ii. I shall 
and. as to the olbeia, will en- 
•awoaDly brief. 

(Memoir of Shelley) ; — * 
K Keate woi the Ifcad Master [of Eton] 
Ha 6<u:gvd Shrllpy literally, and tbe 
retom, plagned him without atlot." 
i this statement on what Hotrg baa 
'aiiWfov. 1.138):— 
' "; I i.iliorilios of tbo Bchool. 

uf old Keate; hut 

t: 1^ io his |M)wer to lor- 
I and amongti ttme She/tey iMf ctm- 

however, himself an Eton pupil, 
thia must be fullacloua: — 

" Shelley could not have pla^^iul him porsonutly ; for a 
\.wy not ia tho AixtU uovcr vwa Cho Jload Atuter. except 
to be ^ivea a prizo or a flogging, nod t/n aoawor to hia 

P. dii. (Memoir) : — 

"I have uot tnyielf »ea the pamphlet" [Shelley's 
Pr>ypnsai f»r ptming Ht/orm to the Vott iKrouffhout tha 
CouHtty. ] 

P. clxxiii. A similar expression. 

I now am reminded that I was wronir in saying 
thit>. I did BoniQ few years ago bom Aoe the 
pamphlet and read it through, and found it to be 
quite aa good as I fehoold hare siinuised before- 

P. ciii. (Memoir) : — 

" Lowndes rcgiriters It [the above-named panipblel] by 
tUo singular title, * Wo ptty the plumaf^e,' " &c. 

I stated this on the authority of a bookseller, 
who showed me the entry in Lowndee; but I 
DOW learn that the two pamphlets were separate 
and distinct. 
P. yiO:— 
'* Heap on thy touI, by vlrtoo of this curac. 

Ill dordH: thon l>a thou damned, beholding good 
Butb inftnitt as ia the univerv, 

Aad tbvUi Mad tbjr wlf-tortoring aolitode 1 " 
In my notes (p. 'iOO) I have explained tbe 
sense in which 1 construe these linos, pimctuated 
(by myself) as above. Mr. Swinburne dillerij 
from me, and 1 think he must be right and I 
wrong. *'l feel Purt!/' he saya, "that * Both' 
can only AppW to * both ill deeds and good.^ " 

VoLii. p. 213: — 
'* My loul spamed tbe chains of ita disniaj'. 
And ui the rapid pluniei uf M>ng 
Ch>tb0d itself, sublime and «tron)i;; 
(A» a young eagle Hoarit tbe inoniiug cloudi among) 
Uoveriag io verw o'er it* accustomed prvy.'* 

In these lines the words " hovering in wrae " 
&c. appeared to me to be dilGcult to account for. 
I did accotmt for them somehow punctuated tbe 
passage to correspond, and explained my view in 
a note (p. 56U}. But now I think the whole 
difficulty arises from a aerious luiKprint in all the 
editions — viz. "in verse" instead of '* inverse." 
Inverse would mean inverted ; and the eagle 
hovering over ita prey, and wheeling inwards in 
circlea, might easily be termed " hovering in- 
verse." I would, therefore, now read and punc- 
tuate — 

** Clothed itidf. tablime and stroug ; 

Aa a young eagle aoani tbe morning clouds among^ 
Hovering inverse oVr its acciwtocned prey." 

I prefer to understand " inverse " as rae4ming 
*' wheeling inwards" r&ther than "with head 
downwarna ; for a good obaerrer of nature assuros 
me (and indeed it had appeared ho to niyiwlf ) that 
the eaffle is not really ever in an inverted position 
while novering — only while swooping. 

P. 348, line 5. Fox "earthqiiakea" read " earth- 



[^•^S. V. FiJi.lI.'Ta 

r. ?.73, last line:— 
" How young art thou in thii olt! ago [of] time.** 

The wnrd "of" 1ms dropped out in the final 
prlniing-ofr. Such niic>haps a^ these, occurring 
between the time when one passes the proof and 
that when the book roaches tne reader, are pecu- 
liarly vexatious ; and a very full average of them, 
J fancy, has afflicted me. 

P. 397:— 

" And others, as with steps towards the tcmh, 
Poured on the trodden worms that crawled beneath." 

Here is a vile and disgusting blunder, for which I 
am responsible, having failcil to observe it in the 
proof. ** Poured " should of course be '* pnred." 
P. 403, line 15. Add :— after " minion." 
P. 411. Shelley's note on Priitce Atkanase runs 
«a follows : — 

"The author was pursuing a fuller development of the 
ideal character of Atbanaw, when it struck him that, in 
An attempt at extreme refinement and analysis, his con- 
ceptions miplit be betrayed into the a.ssuming a morbid 
character. The reader will judge whether be is n loaer 
or gainer by this difference.'* 

This is faithfully reproduced from previous edi- 
tions ; but, on further refiection, it seems to me 
pretty clear that " difference " ought to be " diffi- 

P. 418, last line. For " steeps " read "steeds." 
(A case of an inverted d). 

P. 435. last line of" To Minerva." For *' others " 
read " others*." 

P. 458. The first of the two translations from 
Moschus should probably be dated 1810. It ap- 
peared originally in the Aiastor volume, published 
lu that year. 

P. 490, line 3 from bottom. For "aalo " read 

P. 51G, line 3. For " flame " read " frame." 

P. 627. The juvenile poom "Mother and Son " 
l!" printed from my own tr.inscript of Shelley's 
MS. hitherto unpublished. In stanza 2 the 
word " feel " comes at the close of a line which 
ought to rhyme with "live." This is correctly 
printed, and, I fancy, correctly transcribed also ; 
out probably the word which Shelley would have 
■written, but for a slip of his pen, was " grieve." 

P. 642. I have made a muddle in the note on 
tbifl page. Shelley givos as the motto to his 
" Peter Bell the Third " the following lines : — 

** Is it a party in a parlour. 
Crammed just as they on earth were crammed, 
8ome sipping punch — soms sipping tea, 
But. as you by their faces se*". 
All silent, and all— damned ? " 

" I'eter iJell," by W. Wordsworth. 

The edition of Wordsworth which I possess 
(one of the current editions of his full collected 
poems) does not, in its version of "Peter Bell," 
contain tliese lines. I therefore assumed that 
**'ird8wortb had never written the lines, and 

that the a^^cription of them to him was a bit of 
banter on Shelley's part But this wna (as Dt 
Johnson said) "ignorance, madam, pore ipiff* 
ance " in me, or perhaps, rather, fnrgetfohwsi 
Mr. Swinburne has set me right. The fumfb 
" 7ca8 in the first cdiUon of Wordsworth^ 'Peter j 
Bell * ; but even hia disdples could not qmis J 
stomach that stanza, and even he was penoadii 
to cancel it." 

P. 650, line 25. The phrase quoted froa 
Shelley, *' to approximate one to tbe circle^'* kt 
should be " to approximate me*' 


"The next stanza, xxxii. [of 'Adonaia*] introdiw 
Shelley himself ; and xxxv, Severn." 

Mr. Garnet points out to ma that it is undemtilf 
Leigh Ilunt, not Severn. I stand corrected. 

P. 659, line 25. Read " vol. I" The figuebi 
fallen out. 

P. 601, line 7 from the bottom. For "ian*- 
morato " read " innamorata." 

That there are other slips of printing in fti 
new edition of Shelley I am br this time too 
well aware, but the above are all that I eta lA 
of your courtesy to permit my correcting thioogh 
your columns, and h fortiori ihej are all thitl 
can hope you will allow to be thus corrected. 

W. M.KoanEnL 

fid, Euston Sqnarp, X.W., Jan, 23, 1870. 


No. I. — On the outside of the valentine, eodr- 
cling a heart, which is broken up on the uafoU- ' 
ing of the IcUer: — 

*' Dear Lovo, thi.-i Heart, which you behaU, 
Will break whan tou theses LeAvea unfold: 
Even 80 my Heart, with Inve-aick Pain 
Sore wouuiled i^ and breaks ia twain.** 

In the interior of the vslentine, encirdiaf • 
medley of Cupid with bis bow, a bleeding Mtf 
\^'ith his arrow, hearts single and hearts joiaei 
together, a sun, moon, and stars, roses, 11171^ 
and forget-me-nots, is the following: — 

*' My dearest dear, and blest divine, 
I've pictured here j^onr Ileart and mine; 
Diit Cupid, witb hi$ fatal Dart, 
Hath wounded deep my tender heart; 
And hath betwixt us set a Grosa, 
Which makes me to lament my Loss ; 
But Vm in Hopes, wheu this b gone. 
That both our Hearts will join in One. 
** You arc the Girl, and only Maid, 
That hath my tender Heart betray'd : 
Nor ever will my Heart have Ean 
Untill our Hearts are joined like these. 
If you refuse to be my WiP^, 
It will bereave me of my Life. 
Pale Death at last most stand my Friend, 
And bring tlie Sorrows to an End 
Of your true I^ver, Volentioe, and THmA. 

T. CovLBT, Febr 14» IM.* V«. 




or nddrcsa tide) of tlie valeQ- 

t«, sweet Tarlle-DoTc, 

I MornI of mr I-ov*?. 
' Knvy can't prelcnil 
falM)*S(ories pennM." 

e outside of the ralentmo, en- 
rhlch breaks up on the unfolding 

mv Dear, &3 von behoKI, 
ou tbow Leave* unf"!il : 
eart wiih I*ovc-Mck Puin 
I, u it breaks in iwaia." 

of the Talentine, surrounded hy 

flowers: — 

I fnirl O Xymph divine ! 

Lore, my lleait a thine. 

4 which wire ivaa frise, 

iillncO ia Chain* by tbee: 

eart ran never rwt, 

[kom in yuur sire«L DreasL 

j, n Friend aincere, 

1, a Thin^ most rnrc 

ftiuuk I am too buld 

Hoot Storeof GuM: 

ftHi should bavo part, 

ii*t, yua have my IleArt. 

yon Me, pray tbink of mc, 

M in vonr mtntl. 

L- SVvatlicr-Cock, 

th every Wind. 

Tuo. Pmstox." 

sheet of white paper; very da- 

Uv cut out witn Bciasara : — 

ValcntinM by Lot, 

Oiom; that Ihev love not ; 
, whuu I love W)*!, 
I from Aoiongst the text. 
i« rnand, and hath no End, 
" to ^"oo, my Friend ; 

it lu good part, 
[with Rl] my Heart, 
do the?? Lines irfiue, 
I, pray roe excuse. 

fnr being^ lo bold, 
rrt)le your nnnie in Onld ; 
•carcct as you may tbink, 

write your Nome with Ink. 

TBO8."0Rf>0M Ann Jkbh." 

e (No. III.) a poltl ring was 
bv atitcliea in the papor. But 
Di thoy wftTo all sent, was proof 
itiona of Messrs. Cowley, rros- 

lid in 17S8 mamu'l JIx. • 

Buue the grandmotber of ono of 
d " of til*? Balaclava chargu, 
ig, bore buck to gafotj ooe of 

:k basins. 

^•, my attention was drawn by 
ferii's nf nearly rireulor shal- 
Aurfacc of a " luoorstone '^ 

lying on the "bank" nearly opposite hia house. 
Speculating on their probable use — for ho assumed 
at once, from their general form and appearance, 
that they were artitidal — his inquiry wna, Could 
they not have been u^d for muuiog cider? In 
Harlaud and Wilkinson's Lancaithive FoUilorc 
(Wame & Co., 1807, pn. 100-110) are detailed 
notices of what the aolliore, following Borlaee, 
term " Druidical rock basins," together with a 
reference to his remarks on like cavities in Corn- 
wall, and certain speculationa as to their origin 
and purpose, which I in part extract as follows : — 

" Dr. Borlaao confidently ueerts that the ancient 
Druids Ofled these rock hanns fnr hnptismnl and sacri- 
ficial purpoeea. .... Whether they have been formed 
by natural or artificial means. \t Btill n matter of diipule. 
Un the whole, the writer's upinioD in that the rock basina 
of Scill^, Corawall, D.rhyjthire, Yorkshire, and East 
Lancnshirp are |>artly nntural and partly artificial; the 
ftpmicr bein« comparatively few, and easily distinguished 
by lh"ir van'inar drpths and forms. Whether wholly or 
partially nntural or arlirici-U, lie think.t it f.ife to con- 
cludL* tlmt Ihi'V have been iippropriutwl by tin; Druida to 
their rvli^luui) wur&hip, na furnishing the mo«na by which 
they could ofl'er thoir Kacriliccs and perform their ablu- 
tions. They would alw Auflico for baptivm, and preaervc 
the niin or Uw dew from being poUoled by touching the 

Preraiaing only that my eeneral faith in the so- 
called *' Dniidicnl " is mucn on a par with Betaey 
Trig's in the estimable Mrs. Ilnrris, I would 
observe that the luo^t interesting instance I have 
met with in the way of elucidation or illuslration 
of the enperiicial cavities thua reninrked on is in 
Hylten Cavallius' Wtirend och Wirtfarnc. After 
mentioning the fact that, in the hallowed groves 
of ancient Scandinavia, there had been as of ne- 
cessity a special site or place for encrifirial oflTer- 
ingd {oJferstaU)t where the formal paciificial rilpa 
were wont to be solemnised, and which site might 
pasidbly be a spring, possibly a nntural roek-maaft, 
the author just named goes on to describe (with 
the aid of woodcuts inserted in the text) three 
sppciftl sacrifice-slone* yet extant in the district of 
Warend, S. Sweden, and corresponding precisely. 
from the account given of them, with those uoticea 
by the Lancashire folklore book above quoted; — 

" All thrw of them," he fJiys, "have sioiilar <imall 
caviLir* ruddy drilli'd into tlicin, two of theru having; 
three each, and the third six Rmall holes (from one inch 
to two deep, and the 5auit> in diameter), wurkod iato 
their upjicr and llattened uurfacea." 

lie then continues: — 

** As to the true inlonllon of Iheaa ^tonee, and the smaU 
cavities in their surfnor (ihe like to wliiih ore met with, 
moreover, in the anri>*nt sarrififial <i(ont!^, or, as I hey are 
callcil, 'eiant-chamberft* nf lk)hm*]Jin), our antiquaries 
have expressed themselves with some uncertainty. The 
innniry, however, meets with its solution if wo only pay 
a little retiard to an old-fashioned uas^b wtiich main- 
tains itvlf tn this day in certain places in Swea province. 
Thus wc find near a town callra Lindc, abutting on a 
forest-path which leads to llohrs For^e, an eartb-Hist 
stone (jord/uMt »tem — ia Clc^'elaod, * vaw*Xfc\.otit'"> «A \Cw& 




4A*ncter with those above mentioned. The Mid stone 
Is about four Teet high, nine long, and seven broad. It ia 
flat on the upper surface, and has six small holefi, each 
i^nt an inch and a half broad, of the same <lepth, and 
about two ioches long, drilled therein, besides four of 
the same dimensions on the sides. This stone goes among 
the eommonalt J by the name of ' The Klf-Btone/ and the 
women in the sarmunding dutriot are still in the habit, 
when any child of theirs is sick of a disorder popalarly 
attributable to elf-agency, of in the iinst place smearing 
the stone with fnt or butter, which is rubbed into the 
Above-named i^mall holei, and then of placing in them as 
an' offering small dolls (called troU-dockor) made of clouts 
or rags foldi'd into form. The same ancient caatom pre- 
vails alino ia connection with the so-called eI/-pot {tlf- 
onfta)^ as a cup-shaped cavity in a mass of rock near 
ijorsaker Court (or farm), in Our-Ladykirk parish, 
near I^nkuping, is called. The women of the vicinity 
make it a special errand on Thursday e\'ening8 * to anoint 
for the sick ' (smorjafor yuka) with hogs' lard, and then 
to offer in the elf-pot a pin which has oeen worn by the 
^ck person.** 

in the churcliyard here, and even in a portion 
of it which has been quito recently added, we 
And in every ^rave many fra^ents of medieeval 
pottezy and traces of much charcoal. From time 
to time a piece of wrought flint or an Edward 
coin tuma iip. Not a month since, two pieces of 
ancient (probably prc-Roman) pottery were found, 
and not long before that a fragment of rock which 
had been broken just through one of these cup- 
aihaped cavities. The pottery, charcoal, coins, all 
give more than a liint of former burial notions 
and usages ; and perhaps the flint and this broken 
offer-stone are to the full as eigniticant. In former 
commuuications I have sought to draw attention 
to the extent to which what are originally 
ancient Bacriticial usages still prevail in one or i 
two old-world practices, and it would be easy to | 
multiply other instances in which they have pre- 
vailed until a comparatively recent period. At | 
present I only specify the ofiering of food to i 
Dees; the suspension of dead lambs, or of the | 
amnion of the mare, in thorn-trees ; the burial of , 
the premature calf under the threshold of the 
oow-hou!fe ; the suspension of rags in the neigh- | 
bourhood of the holy well (" Kagwell" of Cleve- I 
land), or the casting of pins into it; the offering j 
of the cream, or mess of bread and milk, for the I 
Brownie (compare particularly the "Brownie- j 
atone " usage mentioned by Martin in his JHwfory 
of the Shetland Isles) ; and this chiefly in the ' 
hope that some amoug the many folklore-loving | 
leaders of " N. & Q." may bo able to preserve | 
yet further reminiscences of the same kind. | 

J. C. AiKiNSOir. 
Danby in Cleveland. 


The following notico of the large tract of land 

now occupied by tho dense mass of houses lying 

between Chelsea and the Thames is a translation 

from ibe Patent Roll reciting the exchange of 

lands between Henry YIIL and the Ahhtj tf j 

Westminster : — 

[Charter 1 July 28 Hen. VIH. m. 8S (5).] 

"Tho manor of Xeyte within tha precinct of thii 
called Le Mote of the said manor, witb all I 
orchardit, fisheries, &c. therein ; a dose opposite flii 
site called the Ttremty Acraj a meadow etUad/" 
Medotn, with a piece of land called Cammf Mj\ 
acres of meadow near Le Hone/ay called JMutl' ' 
8'2 acres of arable land in divers places ; SacMofi 
dow in Temya Mede ; 4 acres of land and Ian < 
meadow, now In the tenure of John Lanrenee; ticM 
land in 3 pieces near Lk Kyt^ now in thetcmniff 
said John Laurence ; *2 acres of meadow in 7il<«ir 
now in the tenure of the eaid John ; 2 acres of i 
Market Medr^ now in the tenure of John Oeriu; li 
of land in Charjfitgcrt)9»9 Fdde^ now In the 
Thomas Swallow ; nil which premises Ue ia the_ 
and parishes of Westminster and 8. MartiaV 

"And a messuage or tenement called £eM>'J 
Westminster in a certain street there called £<' 
Streete, with a whnrf thereto o^oining late In thij 
of John Pounfrett; 3 acres of meadow In ~ *^ 
near a brook (rivulum) ; the advowna of 
Church ; the manor of^ Totjfmjtom and all tbosi 
tenemental, &c. in Totyngtou then in the 
Hugh Mannynge; the* advowson of Totyiigtool 
with tithes ; the site, ground, circuit, aaaprednctrfl 
manor of H^ede^ and all lands belonging to Ait 
manor now m the occupation (tf Thomas AnHiUtil 
manor of Eybery, with all lands or reputed potstf | 
eels thereof; 2 closes, late parcels oi the farm off 
mortj which manor of Etfbury William WanlHi 
occupies; 2 banks, of which one leads fromTUtfl 
the Thames, lying between the ditch of Mnrkd lkk\ 
the south, and those of -Burgoyne and Le Tym j ' 
dem 3 on the north ; and the other between thi i 
Market Mede on the west and the Thames ootlN I 
in Westminster, which John Shether now holds nij 
cupies ; and 3 parcels of meadow called Market . 
in Westminster lying between the Thames and 
and l^ More abutting upon Sherdyche^^ which i \ 
of meadow and moor John Bate now holds and 
a close amtaining 18 acres of pasture in Wc 
called Sanduutfetdf with 2 meadows thereto 
which W™ Bate now holds; a meadow coi 
acres in Westminster called Zoiu^eawre ; tnd a 
the said parish of SL Martin extending fron t 
called Abbott'e Bridge to the Thamea, which J«ta 
rence now holds ; a pasture called Prlai'$ O^j^^, 
same parish, near the way leading from ^jiW^f'' 

1 The manor of Kia lay between the Kiag*S' 
Pond Sewer and the Ranelagh Sewer, fton tit 
bridge Road at Baymrater to the Thamea. {^^^ 
233.) It was divided into the manors of E^bHyiS 
and Hyde. The £yo watercourse bounded Eiaoa^' 
side from the Thames to the Tjbum Road. 

^ In a conveyance of Abbot IsUp, mentlMi i s^ ^ 
Lamb Alloy or Lane, on the east auta of King's Stn^ 

3 The site of Vine Street. 

« MiUbank. 

B The site of Market Street 

^ Aditch with a share or shexe ; a small stRaa>< 
ning through it ; several may be seen on Agns' loV 
the orchard of the abbey, the site of Orehan Stmt 

7 In Abbot Islip's conveyance here sMotioacdi 
lands and meadows on thesoatit aide of St Janss^l 
pital [the site of St. JameaVPalaea]^ cadeadiiix M 
on the south side of the highway towards the v«rt s 


ift. V. Fra. 12, Ttl.] 



■nd A piece of rneado" ' ' _' IJ fcure* 

ir't Honpt m Tcantj, the Mm" 

SL Martin; aud a cl- I'rikchtc in 

It ninr purwb Ij^'twxTii i^w ^rvttX ulurf belotij^ing to 
Eph^rv f'ti tb** wc«t (ind Prtrth. nnd Cti'i'ief -Ufd^ * on the 

!JiKAlj4<th hi3 wife, Ijiti 

1 occupy ; A croft con- 

' njwartU, whioli Kilwftrd 

- huidii ttod occu|itc8 ; a moadon* conuio- 

ii-nl nf Jjtnuftunre nmr A filMit't Dritfyr at 

■^ I now bulUs in We»t- 

; I _:«) At Chaiynpt Crome 

i »-in-tb«-Fic1as, wbich 

I'uu uuw Itoldn aitd occupies; nn annual 

)inc from an inn callt'd Le Sicannt at 

' ' in WrMmin'tcr; another of ll«. Sd. 

trtin lands i.f tli* Abtiot of Altyufidon, 

*ire of Cieorp? Sutt'm in Chtirm^r CVow* 

■f Gd. iuuin^ from a claso ot Cttleman 

imin.itejr; aoolher of 7f. \d. iMuing from 

1 mu] in Westminster, now in the tennre of 

^ E«iex. Knt ; another of IHoF. iiuuiog from certain 

in ^•-ftiiin'^t. r and the pnrinh of St. Martin aforo- 

,lit* ' TTp^ ; annthcr of Hd, iaaning from 

* -.tttf and the Mid paiuhea, now in 
ip.uiijn of Hugh Vau^bon^Knt.; another 
■Ti 4 acrei" of nrnblc land j and 10 ncrci of 
Lhe teooro or occupation of WiU. Jenvnjf 
-. and the »aid pansh ; and another o\ GL 
" Inrdsbip or manor of CbcUelh,'' Isiti 

• :iii:<- Mi William Sandys, Knt., Lord Sandvti, and 
in I 'a*! CJreiiewyoh." 

Macewjxu E. C. WalcotTj B.D,, F.S.A. 



i'lg copy of an unpuhliahed letter of 
•J in my poasefision may interest 
N. & Q." woo aro admirorfl of that 
poet and eniinently ^ood man : — 
** Keawick, '29 July, 1818. 
•Vn, Colnidffs haring opened yoor letter in 
ketNiLif' abavDoa, Eaa desirod me to reply to it. \\'«} 
r Ucrt Lovcll's residence, bat a leltor will 

'i)m, frtw of poatage, if it bo sent undrr 
. [in, Esq. St. Stepbon's Court, New 
i$ter. It is tbroDgb this channel 
with him. He u at present in the 
Mr. HiiuMrd, Printer to this Hoiiw of Com- 

ill.< I 1. -r.M«, and turubig from tho said Cruw 

•' aouth by the bridge leading to- 

\v*§tminrt^r unto fAe stone bridpe 

ni/ytf, and Ir iliipfi the highway unto 

'rf4n of Rn'i I'l, and bo towards the 

land lnu} [v -;roat messuage called 

-ite of Vork Strept]. Kyhury gave 

'. nnd a title recently to a member 

roon?— and if inilufitrj', fruL: ' ' principle.^ nnd 

g<h>il i-QxiiUwi could insure *-. I am hippy to 

hAv thut I dn not know an; , ii_. would liave a 

fairer proapccL 

** I am. Sir. yro. Ac 

" KoiiKKT SoUTfleT." 

[Addrossed, " Fisher. King & Lovell. Uriftul. 
-Paid." (Pu»t-mark) " Keswiok J.H.L. 

Thia young man waa the son of Hobert Lorell 
who married Mary Fricker, Robert Southey*« 
wife's sister; who was a " Pantisomtan " dftsiroua 
of eatablishinff a " frotornal colony " on tlie banks 
of the S usque n&Quak in conjunction with Southey, 
Coleridge, and George Burnet : whose poems wera 
publi-shed in Southey's first volume; and who, 
catching a fever at Salisbury in 17i>0, and trnvel- 
linj^ home hurriedly in the hot weather before 
he had recovered, died, and left a widnw with 
one child (Robert) witliout any provision. To 
this boy Soutbey was very kind. He was a 
quiet inofTonnive lad, and as a man, discovered 
retined tastes in music and arcbitecture. lie waa 
fond of travelling, and about tho year 1830, when 
a little over forty years old, he left England for 
Rome, and disappeared in a very strange manner. 
Throuu-h the Foreign OlUce he was tracked to 
Marseillos, thence to Rome, and back to Murseillea, 
wbere all trace of him ceased. The Rev. Charles 
Cuthbert Soutbey tells me the family bt;Iieved 
bis coui+iu *' was murdered in mistake^'; though 
why they should have thought so 1 do not know. 
At any rate b« has never bnen beard of since. I 
do not find any rcforence to the matter in iha Life 
and Corrt^/tdettce of Jiobcti Southw. edited by 
bis son in six volumes (Longmans, 1^0). 

At the date of liobert Southey's letter, a copy 
of which is given above, Samuel Taylor Colo- 
rid^e was living ^tb tho Oilloiaus at liighgate, 
and his wife and three children were in the gener- 
ous care of Soutbey at Keswick. 

S. R. Townbheni) Maybb, F.R.S.L» 

26, Norfolk Street, 6lrand, W.C. 

*MlW^. "n-ultnK 

)tfai% L 

: «t ami Hanover Square. 

I Ij'Hj Ditoh, the channel of ^ 
!ji»imdary of Tlir»rncy i 
t^«> and bridge Strceu I 
■'■:. \am&s'6 Park. 
M9 this inn in the Strand ** at 

-1 near tho lite of the Hay- 
^iiSin tM " HwJjio Laofi.' 


John Washington, ancestor of the first pre- 
■sident of the United States, arrived in America 
in 1(150, a psASBnger in a ship owned by Edward 
Prescott, of whicn one John Oreene waa cap- 
tain. During the voyage Elieabetb Richardson, 
who may have been only an enthusiiwticQuakeross, 
was su*ipected of witchcraft and hung by tho 

Washington, incensed by the tranwction, upon 
landing preferred charges against the owner of 
the Toss'^l, and Fendall, governor of Maryland, 
tonk bondft for bis appoaranoe to answer at tho 
ntj\t Pro\-incial Court held at St. MrirvV 



[4»8.V. FEfc 

Westmoreland, Vs., on the opposite side <^ the 
Potomac river, wrote to Fendall : — ■ 

** Hon*ble Sir. To" of tbu 29*^ instant this da;^ I 
rec. fred, I am sony y*t my extraordinarr occasions 
will iitt permitt mee to bee stt ye next Provincial Conrt 
to be held in HuyUnd ye 4*** of this next month. Be- 
cause then, God willing;, X intend to f(ett m^ yonng 
Sonne baptized All vc Company and Gossips being 
already invited. Besides in this 'short time witnesses 
cannot be gott to come over. Bot if M*" Prescott bee 
boQDd to answer itt yee next Provinciall Coart after 
this, I sfaall doe what lyeth in my power to gett them 
over. S*" I shall desire yon for to acquayut mee, whether 
If*^ Prescott be bonnd over to ye next (>)urt, and when 
ye Conrt is, that I m%y hare'some time for to provide 
evidence^ and soe I rest. 

" Yo'r ffreiad and servant, 

" John WAaHntoxox.** 

« 30 Sept. 1659." 

Lawrence Wftshington ia supposed to have 
immigrated to Virrrinia with his brother John. 
He died there in 1077, and left to Mary, a daughter 
bj his first wife, an estate in England. 

Was Lawrence, the Rev. Lawrence of Washing- 
ton of Essex, deprived of his living during the 
Civil War ? Richard Washington of London, son 
of Henry, whose mother's maiden name was 
Eleonora Harrison, and lived at the time of her 
marriage at South Cave, Yorkshire, corresponded 
with General Georjfe Washington in 1776? 
Are any of the descendants of Richard Washington 
living ? A. Philad'a Pknn. 


Notes ik Books.— Perhaps the following lines 
may be of interettt to some of your readers. I 
find them inscribed, in a very Wd band, in n 
work entitled "An Aruwer to Monsieur De Jiodoti^s 
Futteral of the Mass. By N. N.," and published 
"at Douayin Flanders, 1681.*' On a fly-leaf at 
the beginning of the book we have, first — 

" The Protettant PoeCn advice. 
1 thee adviso (judicious reader) 

be not ensnared by this leader; 
This millifidian sent from hell 

(whereof this book doth bear y* smell !) 
The simple only will ensnare, 

because they watch not nor take care. 
The riKbt"ons*snre, will hold y' way, 

Increasing strength from day to dsv. 
Hca from this wretch ! & nil his rabble, 

who builders are of cursed Babell, 
Yet read the book (I think) thow may, 

thou'l know the better q* to say. 
To these who seek of tlue a rpason 

all things are comeir in >-■' season. 

J. D." 

On a corresponding fly-leaf at the close of the 
Tolume the following lines occur : — 

"/a laudem Authorit, ttc, 
Brsve Author, 1 unto thee do allow 

the praises of a dizzio goose di sow. 
A silly cluwnifh idiot beside, 

thy own vile nakednesse y* cannot hrde ; 

A wandering bird, estranged frtmi thy nest 

and wri ogle-wrangles as tbon thinkest be 
Thow hath acqnyr'd some high new-fkngled 

cInathM with a fair disguise of Rmne's de 
In Greek & Hebrew thow prafesseth skill, 

yet knows not wherein dsSers will & nilL 
Ttie strong drinsion long ago foretold 

thy judgement in captivity doth hold. 
I do affirm & say in sober sadneese 

tby present cue, it is the worst of madne 
Though thow be happie in tbv own conceit 

I swear I would not be in thy estate 
For all the revenues y' Rome can tell, 

for sure I am the end is Death & Hdl ! 


The dedication to Sir John Seton of G 
son to the Earl of Winton, contains som 
which might be of use to the antiqnsiy 
ing the benefactions of the house of Seto 
old chapel of that name in the neighboari 
Tranent j 

FoLK-LoBB. — .At a wedding the other 
Richmondsbire — the wedding of tbe ( 
daughter — hot water was poured over tli( 
steps of the hall-door as the bride raid bridi 
drovo away. This, I believe, is in acco 
with local usage. But where else, if at 
this usage found ? and what does it Kgi 
flvmbolisc or commemorate ? I do not rea 
it in Brand nor in the '• N. & Q." volo 
folk-lore. It is mentioned, however, by Mi 
liam Henderson in hin interesting bat in 
work on the Folk-Lore of the Northern 
as a Yorkshire custom ; " and they say," « 
I Henderson, " that before it (the hot wata 
up another marrinco ia sure to be agreed m 


All Saints', Norwich. — We often I 
churches now-a-days being cburchwari 
and " churchwarden Gothic " has forti 
passed into a proverb for any miserable si 
gard restoration ; but 1 think we may cm 
late ourselves on, at least, an improvement 
officers chosen as far as their experience 
three IVs is concerned. At all events sodm 
men may be amused with the following ^ 
copy of a memorandum in the parish-hoolc 
Saints*, Norwich : — 

Extract from the Pariah-Book of All Sai»U\^ 

** Momorandem. Whereas M' John Lsnrenc 
John's at Timberhill did one the 30 day of Mar 
ptvc to the Parrish Church of All Saints in tbe 
Norwich a Silver Tan kerde weighing 28 ounces ff 
altought?. Now thearefore we the Churchwtr* 
other ofTesers &. Inhabetence of thesayd Parriddi 
in grntitudc of such gift & genirosity as affiu* 
onr full I.ieve assente & Consents as far as in oai 
to & for the ssid (MO John Laurence it bis fine 
buried in the sayd Charch porch of AllsaiiUs. * 
wUear of we heare unto sett onr hands as ■ tw 
the same this 23 day of May 1754. 





FreJ. Tubbing 

Tln»» S. Cuppe." 

klterde " is stiU used rs a clinlice, 
kor'fl imoio eo)^t;od up^n it. 
tr. Johu Laurenco aud h\s family 
f put undor ground in '* moiuu- 
kfiod DO menlion. 
f A. Hakbison. 

FAMTr.T. — I find from my MSS. 
iforumlion extrocU-d from tbo 

irVM on board the * Planter • of 

I, UuiiikI for 'New Ivn^- 

Ni the mininer of S(. 

- i:d by tbcjuftices of the 

iyt og^d 81 yeara, faaibaud- 

tt^ty the AQco«toT of the ^at 
iHAcd. Jasijw raiLirp. 

:'a Soifo ON Lord Melville's 
of which the following ia n 
ition of Sir Walter 9coit, and 
girtjn in Edinburgh in cele- 
Ittul by the House of Peora, in 
■ It Viscount Melville. It has 
print, but in on incorrect 
'rpolationn; and a? it is little 
t*fhap? be deemed auitabla for 
X. & Q." in an accurate form. 
le fact, that after the Houae of 
dved to impuaeh Lord Melville, 
LftW Lord fcUenborough, before 
fun, made some remarkd iu the 
implyinff hia belief of the guilt 
>r which he was severely ccn- 
ibiahop of Canterbury : — 
►ra, to a story so merry, 
Eop of fair Canterbury — 
UtcpL t!iu full Bottom in aw^ 
Etit miuincri* and justice to Lavr. 
It up in a very Krcut hall ; 
liin Juhti'-c, »omc Law <iid bim Call. 
iw n'T Itkt: Ja^licc s)Mjk.e he, 
i Attorney ibai railed for a fee. 
'relate so reverend and wUe, 
tt^ir lviiril:«hipii regret and fiurpHu : 
ere you try men, bong, quarter, tad 

U Charch to ibe Ileid of the Law. 
a»ed on Lftw's Tablet of UrnsK, 
( liUiik us Ibp brow of au Am ; 
s( miirn bt'll reply and content n«,* 
■ vra* H^n e*t invrnias. 
■1 Jq tb-a ur"nrt b..x, 
^ ... '.-...auiuee, and voted with 

>f!Wfinctmn 'twixt merit and jaw, 
. iL .Tu4tica and Law. 

ilcnborough was one. 

''Then hero's to the PrrUte of Wisdom and Fame. 
'l'boaf;b staun^tb f'lv^ljyleriann wo honnnr bit nntnu ; 
hituff, ioii.L,' injir he liv« to tcjicb prcjiidioi' n\vr«, 
And since* MeUille'i gut Ja>licc, the Dcril laki Law." 



hwr or LAmisTON. — John Law the financier 
aeema to have been a creditor of Johu Earl of 
Miir, wliowA* f»irfeited iu 17lo, to a large amount. 
Jn a cronn charter p-iMi-d ia 101)0, a |K)nloa by 
King" William, it is elated that tlitre wr.s im 
adjudication uflecting a portion of the Mare.state: 

**AlI inntantiam Joauni.4 Law filii nstu tnaxinil dc- 
Tnortui Galieliiii Law do Lauri&tounc aurificiii, vt Mu- 
nicipii l^ditibur^i et Joannx! Campbell, Matrix ejns ct 
ouratri(:i& pro suo interease Hccundum artum curiitoriuin 
de dato 27"=" dio mensi.^ Aprilix .\Dnn Uonitni lOrfii, et 
ad iniitautiaiu Jucvb) AlarBball, Scriba' in Kiltitburgo 
Forum factoria pro suo interr^M a dicto Joanne nunc 
Couiito de &tar tiinquatn Icgttinifl inandato tc brirdrra 
intrarc dirto ili^fnortiio L'arolu Cumite <le Mar, 5tii> patre, 
et qui renuittiavic." 

J. M. 


Birn^MAL Names. — Have an^ of your readers 
met \7ith the ('hristian name Smdi'ma, Hnd eau 
they give any account of it ? I have Unawn an 
instance of its bciujf perpetunted in the fauiJly of 
A small freeholder iu Herefordshire. 

Can anyone explain the very frequent mis- 
spcUiug of Esther as Jlcxter ? T. W. W. 

CnAPMA.jf*8 *' Bmo5 " aitd Malone. — In Mn- 
lone^a MSS. in the Bodleian Library' ihctx' is a 
uotice that in April, 1008, the company at the 
Dlnekfriars' theatre were forbid to ])lav Chap- 
man's drama of Ift/ron, aud he gives as his autho- 
rity what looks tike *' llredem,'' vol. iU. pp. 100-7. 
Malnne's writin;^ is ofteu very obscure, and the 
word " Bredern " is certainly not the li^^ht one, 
ihonph I can make nothing else of it. It mny Iw 
the name of some foreign author. Perhaps the 
references to volume and page may enable one of 
your readers to elucidato<he mysterv. 

J. O. IIalliwell. 

KicnARD Crashaw asd his Itallax Sonos. 
Having failed in likely quarters to trace Uie 
origiuaiti of the three fwn^s, or whatever they may 
be called, *' imt of thu Ituliati/' originally puo- 
liahed in Crashaw's UtUijhtH of the Muten (I04(i), 
of which thy following are the opening linos, 1 
Appeal to correspondents of ** N. & Q., fts I am 
extremely anxious to diacoTor the originals for my 
edition of Cra«haw: — 
L Ou: of the Italian : a Song. 
"To thy lover 
Deere, dfscQvcr . 

Tliat swf>ci bln-<b of thine that shamcth — 
Whon tbuM roaes 
It diBclp««'ii — 
AU the flowtrs that Nataro nam«lli. 




[4AS.T. Ftt.! 

U. Oat of the Italian. 

** Love now no fire hath left him. 
We two betwixt us have divided it. 
Tour eyes the light hath reft him, 
The heat commanding in my heart doth sit. 
that poore Love be not for ever spoyled. 
Let ray heat to your light be leconcited." 

in. Out of the Italian. 

•* WoqM any one the true cause find 

How Love came nak't, a boy, and blind ? 
Tie this : liBtning one day too long 
To th* Syrene in my miatria* song. 
The extasie of a delight 
So much o're-mastrlng all his might. 
To that one sense, made all else thrall, 
And so he lost his clothes, eyes, heart and all." 
Albxandsr B, Grosabt. 
St George's, Blackburn. 

Gold and Stltee Mines. — Would your cor- 
respondents give me information respecting the 
ancient working of gold and silver in England ? 
Respecting the latter I know of the information 
in Lysons's Magna Britamtia on the silver mines 
.at Comb Martin, Beer Alston and Beer Ferrers, 
Devon, and those in ComwaU. J. P. 

HousBHOLD QxTBRixs. — 1, At what period were 
fofks generally used in this coimtry r 2. When 
were bells, set in motion by being connected to a 
distant handle by wire, first introduced ? 3. Look- 
ing-glasses with bevelled edra are called " Vaux- 
hSX glasses." When were they first made, and at 
-what time did the manufacture cease P 

Charles Wtlie. 

The Copt of Leonardo da Vinci* s " Last 
Sttppee."— In the Exhibition of Old Masters at the 
Royal Academv, is a copy of Leonardo da Vinci's 
" liast Supper," done by his pupil, Marco d'Og- 
^one ; in tnis copy the grouping and position of 
uie figures seem to me to be precisely the same as 
in Raphael Morghen's engraving of da Vinci's 

S'cture, but the table is dinerently dressed ; thus, 
the copy there are thirteen tumblers, and in the 
original out eleven. A^ain, in the copy the water 
l>ottle8 are more numerous than, and of a dif- 
ferent shape from those in the original, nor are 
the knives and plates umilarly arranged in both 
j^ctures. As the head of Our Saviour in the copy 
u said to have been painted by da Vinci himself, 
I would ask if it is Imown whether the variations 
in the copy were made with the sanction of the 
great nainter of the original picture ? and in short, 
why tnere are differences between the two pic- 
tures, and if there was any intended meaning in 
these difiTerences ? I cannot find aA account of 
the original picture sufficiently detailed to give me 
the information I seek. Is Ltonardo or Leonardo 
the right way to spell the painter's name ? 

H.A. St. J.M. 

John Leslie, Bishop of Ross. — The enclosed 
is' a copy of an inscription by Leslie, Bishop of 

Ross, on a wall of the Bloody Tower, To 
London. It is not given in exienso by eitfat 
ley, Lord de Ros, or Hepworth Bixim, 1 
works on the Tower, having been much di 
by damp, &c. Can any of your readers 
the missing letters, which are indicated 
copy by crosses P 












Mexican Names. — Can any of your nn 
correspondents afford any in^rmatioo rsf 
how ancient Mexican names are to be promo 
In reading the interesting works of P 
Robertson, and others on the subject of ] 
one encounters such names as Iztlilzochit 
amoxtU, XicotencatI, Maxixcatzlin, and 
appellations well calculated to " make Quii 
stare and gasp," as Milton says of our 8 
patronymics. U«i you inform me how the 
and consonants are to be pronounced in tk 
couth appellations P T. H. Wl 

MmiAxims Paintke. — Who was the an 
painter, temp. 1730, with the signature ^ 
lie seems to have painted in rather hear 
colour of pale tints. X 

Quotations wanted : — 
" 'Tia in ourselves that we are thus— ortbi 
[Is our correspoudent thinkiag of the lines— 

" The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our staiSi 
But in ourselves that we are underlings"? 

If so, he will find them in Julius Catar, i. 2.] 

" I slept, and dreamt that life was beaatf ; 

I woke, and found that life was dntp." 
" The person love does to us fit. 

Like manna, has the tuste of all in it.*' 

The " Epigram on the Walcheren Expe( 
given in Haydn's DicUotuay of Dates re^ 
the Earl of Chatham and Sir Richard St 
is incorrectly given in Haydn, esnecisllj t 
line. A correct version would oblige. V. 

*• Redeem thine hours — the space is brief 
While in my glass the sand grains shin 
And measureless thy joy or grief, 
When time and thoa sbalc part fbr eW- 

" Thou hast said, the blood of g(Hits, 
The flesh of rams I will not price— 
A contrite heart, a humble thought, 
Are mine accepted sacrifice." — SaM. 
[From the hymn of Rebecca. See JvaAoe, 
These quotations from Scott an not in Blaefc'i* 
his Poetical Works.l 

V. F«ji.l2.':0.1 



\yj\jMt nveage infltine-L' 

■II trace. 

II bring, 


C. p. 8. 

. JAcet (9emp«rqa«J«co«t I) 
llvino Imago zdi ot pestls." 

Ororoi! Llottj. 

r.p who tuu boljr vonliip epurnod, 

' lie txuLb to f«l<wli<xiil lumed." # 

1 loej me the huutsrs drivp, 
"liiiM vifiil J, nor fur life will longer strive.** 

AKTnrB Latham. 

ihe garden of Lord Taunton at Overstowey 
"»ute to hU memory, planted in dwarf l>u£. 
[Of the line — 
^reco memory and the immortal bay." 
inform me who u the author of this 
of the line — 
fcAoilucL is right, thongh her retMning'a wrong.** 

-I have alvrayd beard tbiti word used 

iKf of '* BHturated with water, &uaked; 

an tUst Au;5liaa proviacialism? 

only notice the word as the par- 

of the verb ""to seethe." J. C. Rrar. 

rcic ': ITS DHRnATirt:?. — Can the various 

of thi* word be referred to one common 

Ton ? Johnson gives two separate onea — 

,tr«ccift in, •' knot of hair ") for the sense of 

I,'* BDo trifff^n for ibnt of ** deceive." 

in takoo both meanings from the root 

Kt ;iing " hair/' and puts the dilferent 

I in the following: order: — 1. En- 

\\*- nil 11 n hair or thread round the feet of 

b); 2. Tft^'fiw, 3. Set officith iwprmmg omn- 

'•, I. Atiom. ('an any of your readers «ug- 

reconcilifttion of these two couflicting 

or (five any other derivatiou? Also, 

kcik»*cfjt uses of the word trick in heraldry 

cardfl to be referred to the same or a 

f C.S. J. 

•fl ** Htbtort or Orkat YARMorxn " 
V, 413.) — Can thixbt' the one bought bv the 
Towiiiihend, '10'2l), 1/. ISs, mentioned 
•'« Bihlioffraphcr's Mamwl, p. 2*](}'2t 
(3P ClIABLES \ivu5. 

SqiwR; S.W. 

'RKIAU SpT." — Oftuonyof yourrewloTS 
me whelhT any Miti'tii of TTtf TurhUh 

T*.*_-IMi Ti-nrli. or German, with 

As twocenturiea 

n, or at tea?t since 

led, the quotation 

t ; T in the prefitce t'j 

>tuii liui meminisde juTttbit," 

.yi H. IL 

^urrfrtf fnttlj ^wib&tvi. 

Canons. — May I ask if there exists any full 
account (with or without views or plans) of 
Canons House during iU brief brilliant bietory aa 
the palace of the. Duko of Chandos? Or are any 
copies of the sale catalogue that would be printed 
at tlio time of ita demolition still in existence? 
yo grand a house would likely hnvo n fuller re- 
cord than the were paragraph notice of it that 
may be fouud la the local remarks embodied m 
Middlesex accounts, A IUgulab Keadkb. 


[ We bavo ncTWr SMn any separate work on the magni - 
ficcnt Mnictars of Canoni, wfaidi cost "the Grand Duks 
of Chamlos,** wiUj ita dacornlidn and furuiliir«, ths 
cDormout sum of 25O,0fl0/. Pupc, in his *' Salif« ou Falso 
Ta-'te," tliu<) sarca-tttcally alludtsa tu tbfl exlruos folly of 
itJ proprietor : — 

** To Timon*3 rilU lot lu pau a day« 
Wb«rc all cry out, ' Wliat sumj arc thrown twajt ' 
8o proud, BO grand, of that ^^tupondous air, 
Soft and agreeable can come never there." 
During the rdgn of Qao«n Annctho po«t of Paymaster* 
General of all th« Forces mitiil bave been a lucrative one. 
All int^Tc^ting account of Canoni maybe fwund in A Jonr- 
mcjf ihrovffh England, edit. 1722, ii. pp. 6-!0i A Toitr 
thrmtgh the Iitiiml uf Crtat Britain, «dil. 1778. li. 129; 
aud in The Awhutator, edit. l^H, pp. (>2-64. Cunnult 
also LysonVs Emv'mma of I^m'Iou, iii. 40^ ; the Bra^iet 
of England and IVaUi, vol. x. fit. iv. pp. 63i-C43 ; and 
A Dencriplion of the Ccunty of MiddteMex, pp. 177-I7y, 
tlvo, 1775. Thlfl niagnilii'ciit mansion lioa been cele- 
hrftted in two poMnn : (1) Caitons ,■ or, the Vnion, a Poem 
addri^A<itHl to t)iu Ui^bt Hon. .lumcft, Karl of Caruarvon, 
&c. Lond. 1717, 8vo, attributed to (Jhorlw Uildon. (2) 
CbftoNf, a Poem inscribed to the I>ukc of Cbaodos, by 
Samuel ITumpbrey?. Lond. 172^. f»l. There U an so- 
graved " View of the East Front of Canons in Middlesax, 
the seat of Jaoicv, Duke of Chando$, built in 1720; drawn 
by John Price, architest, U. Huliil>ergb,Hculp^t. A wbole- 
fibeot print, reprinted fiom the original ptim by Richard 
Chirk, Lond. 183t^." After tbc death nf the prinocly daks, 
Canons wiu pulled d^^o, and the mntLrialA were sold 
piecemeal in tbc year \1\7. \\* attc wb« pttrcliossd by 
VVilliffliu Uallet, tbe cabinet -maker. It patted to Deanis 
O'Kclly, and tben to Patrick birt nephew, nnd in July* watnold to Sir Thoma»Plummer, Solii-itorGeos- 
rol, for fto.OOO/.] 

LoNPOK CoitroKA TiON OFFICES — When was 
the sale of City appointment?, to wliicb the en- 
cloaed extract from an old paper of tbe day al- 
ludes, discontinued, or does it in any awe still 
exist ? — 

•* April H», 17iij. Laat nigbi the Comrailtee of City 
lAn«b> met at <>uildha]l, whore tbe Sworilbearer* pUoe of 
Ihf riiv wiis put op for Sale, and M' Itobinwn ofT^rwl 
1" linir -IHOtf/., M' Pawnev l" timr o:»50/, Tbe "1^ time 
W UobinBoo ofis«d 6720^ and M<- Pawuey mb\l^ 





wliireiipr'n the Committee ileclitrfsl JU Pawney llie 
lugliot liiiMrr/* 

'•Jane 12''. Ytsterdav the Committee of City Ub'U 
znct Rt GiiiKlhalt, when ^l'^ Jefl^run ptircho-^d tbc dIacc 
<if an Hitomry In the ShcrifTa Court, vacant hy the Jenlh 
of M' I''. WbcfltU'r. At the wme lime M' ttumo* pur- 
chkKd thu plnoe of one of tlie ttondlvs oi tli? L'uurt of 
Iteqneste, for which be ^arc 1320/." 

II. It 


[Thp office of Attorney of the SheritTii Court was 
nboliihM at tht^ clone of the centan-, niid all at- 
torneys permitted to practise in it, and were paid 
by fees. A committee was appointed hy the Court of 
Common Council to inquire intu the ahii<)fH pxinlin^ in 
the Sheriff's Coart, and in their rfporl, presented July 2'J, 
1771. ihey rceommendeil that the office of bendlc sbould 
be 611ed up by election, and sot by parchase. Thii was 
adopted soon aftenvanb. 

Wm. Cotterell, K%f\., was t!ie last person who pur- 
cluued the oOlceof Swordbearcr, and gave Hemn Powncy 
10,200/. for Ibo reversion of it. Upon hia death in 
Sept. 1818, the Corporation appulDte<l a committee to 
consider the duties and emoluments of the ofHce, which 
made its report to the Common Council on J«n. 28, 
1819, reeummendiu}; for the future that the office bo 
flllt'd up by election and not by purcboM, and this waa 
coafinn(Nl, although »>vera] gentlemen oflered 10.000/. 
for the office. Cottereira Income was said to exceed 
160i0/, per annom. Thom:is Smith wds the first oflicer 
fleeted by tbs Common Council, June 11, 1819.] 

Ur op the CnALDERS. — Why U the -vrord 
Dne'D, in Gunesu xi. 28, 31, rendered Chaldees? 
If there is no pufficient auUiority for thw ren- 
dering, it would seem mora correct to look for 
the site of Ur, the settlement of Abran»"s pro- 
genitors, near Cir-wMa-iR, the Cfiu-co5-us, nnd the 
d^-piau; sfty in Armenia: more Rinong the 
Kurdtfj anciently CtirJuchii. \, {\, 

[To our correspondent's inquiry why the word in 
question is rendered Chaldees, we can only reply that 
thii Rjipean to have been the generally received rcn- 
dcring ever since the Bible began to he translated. If 
inde&l he will turn to Bngslcr's Polyglot Bible, he will 
there llud the original Scripturra with seren trnn)d.itionB, 
and in alt «evoa, aocieul as well as modem, either the 
nndcriag Chaldecs. or its equivalent in the several lan- 
piimes employed. And whatever may have bicn, la 
Abram't days, the residence of the Cbaldees or the 
position of Ur, we well know that the term Clialdejins 
was, in a more advanced period of Old-Tc-tann-nt his- 
tory, applied, ns r«marlicd by Kitto, to inhabitanU of 
Bal'vlon and subjects of the Babylonian kingdom. 

Still, bo wc^-rr, it ought to bu mentioned that it has 
Iwea speculatively conjectnml, in accordance with our 
correspondent's auggcntion, that the Cbnldcca were ab- 
criijlMHy a mountain race, dwelling in the Cardticblon 
mouDtaina. And If this conjecture is to be received aa 
craUible, it Is not impoMiUv that these mouutaina mav 

hare bi»n the identical '* Ur of t1t« Cbahkes ** frnn wbicli 
Abram came forth. 

Wc bftvc failed to discover that the uid cocjectai 
has much to stand upun ; but perUapa its mentioa 
">'.& Q." may bring us further light.] 

George Bdchaxas's *'BiriisTKs." — In IVk' 
Nrw MefHoit'g of MiUoH there is priutod a Ira^j 
(^led '* Baptistea," supposed to nave hecu tmni 
lated by Miiton from tliu Latin of G. BuchaOf 
in 1G37. and afterwards altered into proM wilfa 
new title in 1041. Is any notice t&ken of lUis i 
any subsequent editions of Milton's wozk^)^ anill 
if not, on what grounds is Peck's thorv rp to liii 
Miltonic Authorship of the above ' - con- 

sidered untenable t Peck also n : lit* i 

plan of a drama bearing the Utlu " lLi^u.'.h:s" 
exists in Milton's handwriting in the liurar)' c/J 
TrinitT Oollogo, Cambridge. Is this & foct ? i 

C.S.J. I 

[The translation of George Buchanan's E:;- 
Cftiumm'a, VuS, is attributed by reek on \' 
grounds to Milton. It i» entitled**Tyrounicaii-i.i.rn,- 
ment Anatomizcil; or, n Di*covr»« concerui'i:; F-i'* 
Coancellon: being the Life nml Death of John the Hip- 
tist; Bud pmentcd to the King's m<nt excrllent U^i^ 
by the Author. Die MnrtU, SO Januani, 164?. H i* 
ordered by the Committee of the nou-ie of C<Mn«u'o» «8* 
ceming Printit^, that this book bo forthwith pilnt** 
and pubUshrd, Jolm White. London, Printed for JokO 
Field, 1612." This translation has been suppfm-t wiA 
some probability, to ha\*a been intended as s tUnt l» 
Charles I. of the danger he then incurred from ih'^ CflaH' 
sets of some at)oat him ; and the history of the n«pti*U 
who lost his head by the instigotioo of fTf ''lri-,"««* 
figiirativoly to glance nt the death of L ""^ 

at the inAu^QCo of the queen.— H'/tf 1- 
/)ranir>//(ra,m. aC6.] 

ADuiRAt Sir Edwibd W. C. R Owiw, 
you or «ny of your rewierfi inform in*« vt\ 
Edward and liis brother Admiral AVilliami 
died, and assist me with any biographical 
malion mg^ardinfj them, or the authoritinai 
to contain such information ? When and ' 
cupacitv did the elder brother bold ollic» 
Sir Bobert Peel i* 

[Admiral Sir Edward Wm. romplwH lUA 
G.C.B., died at his resilience, \Viiid!*-dinm Iloaa^l 
on October 8, 1H'19, aged seventy-eight. For 
cat notices of him consult the iifntletatttC* 
Dec. lH41t, p. Gi7, and tlio Annvol If^yitttr, xd. 

CASaAKDB.t FxDKUs. — I sbouM be glad oi* 
hbtorical notices of Cassnndrft 1*^ ' '- ^ *i? 
poetess, mutilciao, and scholar < 

[Jac. Pbil. Tomasiuua wrot« lh« Lif« 
FidcUs, preflxed to her SjuBtoltr *t Oraf- 
Bvo, Consult the reiercDi.'t*« at the < 

f KB. 12. 70.] 



ZKcdbAory, xlr.378f and the dcw ediliou 
Umvergette, xiii. 478-1 

b's Medals. — What work besides 

of Qttffn Anne conUins doacrip- 

\\ngB of Cwker'd Ix'iiiiritul medals 

AODC? HE!fRT W. llKIfPIlRr. 

irespondrnt mftv bo glad t^ know th:it Jnlin 
tgin«l dniugbts of hii mcdnls ciFv |<ri'2crTeJ in 
if Deiigna in the Dc]*aTlmi:ut »( Mauuscript?, 
urn (Aitdit. MS. lH,7i>l}, purcUasfit at tLc 
iMby Alcliornc, L^q. tu Xuvvmber, 1861.] 

(4*^ 3. iii. W4.) 

u more conipeteut tbnn my fiieud Mr. 
to appreciate tlie i^rare cttnsequeucea 
ill thti conriderftlton — Who wrole 
tfri of the ytyoCitttiofti of Moms. Met' 
Aad I caunot duubt Ue ahorea my 
it wbfQ 1 was urv^rtriug to write tbe 
{P^c«, and a»kt*u hu help ti^ a kii<)'.v- 
by AUtlior'4 ItiUtir ill MervuriH4 j^'olttimu 
ur di^Uiuiiii)^ the Mimttc* of Me»- 
u libruT)' wai io so un^ttlcd a state, 
ptnpulsory removal, tbnt be \xm uuable 
Itbaud upou ibc volauie. I am sure be 
pt uo of any ueglect to investigate the 
"y BOd at the proper time. 

bos, fiince the pubUcAtion of my 

ed in your columus; &ud as 1 bave 

book iji qu^eliuu among tbu works 

Admit that 1 am bound to state my 

•o doinj;, and, as far as po&iiiblej to 

> the wbolo matt«r. Tbe tirao that bos 

Hweea Mr. Cuosslet's article and this 

Ft not tberefuro be taken as any iudica- 

wiUiugtiese to discuss tbe BuUject, but 

of the delibemtion duo to it<t im- 

d of the special research necessary to 

ia primary and collateral issues. 

ivc' of J>^fu«*s staU*meiit, tbe ouestiou 

Ud, or did not, write tliid took is, 

capable of strictly lo'.'ical proof; yet 

ion of a.«certiiini'd facts may constitute 

circumstmitiol evidt:uce upm wbicb tbe 

tind bis own verdict. 

suit of truth ou}^bt to be tbe bigbcst 

literary invtatigator, irrespective of 

; and even if, in this casi!, tUo 

Defoe sboubi seem to dulfer, I shall, 

e exonerated from any disposition to 

bim by Iho*^ cniics whose only chargti 

baa b«eii tbe easily forgiven duo that, 

bi« Liie, 1 bave shown myself a bero- 

Tbe inquiry as to Mcsnager*s book coinprises 
the following beads : — I. lis genuineness. II. Ita 
authuutieity. 11!. Its objc^ct. \\\ Its autbor. 
V. Defoe's disclaimer. V(. If Defoe did not 
write it, who did 't 

Tbe investigation rciuired a minute critical 
examination of tbe book it-tolf, of the cont/unpo- 
mry newspapers, and the historical recoi-ds of tbe 
secret proceedings between the bi^t Ministry of 
(jueea Anne and M. Mesiuiger, preliminary to 
the public negotiations at Utrecht. Also as to 
tbe examinations and report of tbe Committee 
of Secresy apiuiuted by tbe lirat Parliauient of 
Oooni:e I., theiirticti's i>t ii:ijK*acbntent a;;aiMst tbe 
principal members ufibe then latcAdministration, 
more especially those against tbe Karl of Oxford 
and Ix>nl Bolingbroke, and tbe trial and acquittal 
of tbe former. Also, a:* to tbe time and manner 
of the publication of Mcanagcrs book ; the 
opinions of contemponvry writers as to its author- 
ship and contents; tbe internal, external, and 
campanitive evidence, if any, that it was written 
by Defoe \ bis strong inducements to avoid tbe 
imputation of having written it, and bis apparent 
disclaiming many utber works attributed to bini» 
And lastly, ao to the existence of any other 
contemporary atiibor who, naturally or imita- 
iively. wrote so exactly like Defoe as to deceive 
bis own and later generations. 

I. The MimUt's of the Net/oiialioHH of M, 
Memaffcj' prlJfe^se3 to have been " Written by 
himself," and ** lyoun out of French," Ho stnteiiy 
however, that bu bad *' little of tbe Kugliah 
tongue,' Olid could not read it distinctly. Tuere 
can be no pretence, therefore, that he translated it 
himself. Hut hoti tlie book any existence in 
French ? All my research ends negatively*. I 
cannot tind any trace of audi a work, either in 
manuscript or print, or quoted in any other book. 
But I tind Abel lioyer, liiiu&elf a Frenchman^ 
designating tbe English edition, soon after pub* 
licntioD, "a forgery '; and in bis monthly paoi- 
phlut, Thr rolitical State ttfOretU JirUttin, challeng- 
ing the world to prove that it had any existence 
in French. To that challenge neither Defoe nor 
any one else replied. My only reward for this 
part of my labours was ihn fact that M. Me^iuager 
died in the autumn of 1714. This was of scn'ioo 
in the analysU of the book. 

A& Musuager first came to London very 
secretly, a stranger would be unahle to venture 
upvtn the predse day of liis arrival, although 
nuibing could have been more certain to Mesuairer 
hiiuselt' than tbe adveut of the most memoranle 
undertaking of bis life. 1 lind tbe book stating 

(p. 81), "1 arrived at London tbe — day of , 

1710." His second visit to London was made 
publicly, and therefore the writer of the book 
had no difliculty in etatinj* (p. 212) that it was 
in the beginning ot ificpCctubcTj \7W* He wiv» 




(p. 80), that the immediata occasion of the 
French Uiii;^'a seudia^ him to Ivondou was the 
death of the Earl of Kochester, uncle of Qaeen 
Anne; yet he states afterwards (p. 07) that, 
soon after be arrived in London, Count 
Gui»card attempted to aasnsaioHte 8ir Robert 
Uarlev. That att<«uipt was on March 19, 1711 ; 
but the Earl of Kocheater did not die until 
May 3 followinj?, being the samo day on which 
Hnrley made his first appearance in Pfirlinment 
afttir ibe attack on his life. At p. 4 the writer 
speaks of the King of France as dead, yet he lived 
a full year after the death of Meana^er. In Uko 
manner 1 iind him (pp. 41-43) speaking of Queen 
Anne as deceased^ yet she lived until Meana^r 
died. Again, pp.48, 61, 63, 6.3, refer to cir- 
cumstances connected with the l^rl of Oxford 
which did not occur until long after the docoaae 
of Mesnager. 

After the above annchronisma, out of many 
more, I need not enlarge upon the incredibility 
that the diplomat of a great nation, who had been 
80 secretly employed, would come publicly for- 
ward in his own person, ao soou afterwardi*, while 
those immediately concerned with him herein 
were anxiously destroying every vestig:© of such 
negotiations, and would, without the least re- 
serve, t«ll all his Bpcreta to the world. The reader 
will be able to decide whether or not the book 
was '* Written by himself," and if it was " Done 
out of French.'' 

II. Its authenticity. Does it give a triie ac- 
count ; or, is it partly or wholly fictitious ? 

The most considerable and important parts of 
the book consist of the intercourse )>«tw«en 

Mesnager and one designated '* ray Lord ." 

Their interviews wore froqnent, of long con- 
tinuance, and their dialoffUR^are ffivon as verbally 
as if taken by a Bliortuand wnter. Who waIb 
"my Lord ''? These meetings had com- 
menced on April 11, 1711, and contmucd, with a 
abort intermission, until September 20 in the 
aame year, before any other member of the Queen's 
Ministry took part in the proceeding*. That no 
other than Lord Bolingbroke was intended is 
evident fn>m history. Ilis otlice as Secretary of 
State ; the peculiar relations between himself und 
the E&ri oi Oxford ; the order of the Regency. 
imuiudiatoly after the Queen's death, that i^l 
letters and uackets directed to the Secretary of 
State should be sciit by the Podtmaster-Ueneral 
to Joseph Addiaon, K-m. ; the seizing fuid bealing 
of his otticiftl papers; the discovery that, nuiongat 
otiiers, all those relating to the secret negotiations 
with the French plenipotentiary, with one or two 
oxceplions, wcra missing; the proceedings and 
report of the Committee tif Secrosy, and the 
eub»-t>queut articles of impeachmeut, after his 
cocsipe to France — all comhino to prove that he 
waa "uiv Lord ." Yet it does not tell in 

favour of the authenticity of MmmU» of 
Nt'ifotialfOHs of Mvntr. Mrmm^tr, 1717, that Uu 

wnter, able profewedly to give the converwitio?i»j 
in 1711, above referred to, word for word, did notj 

happen to remember that " my Lord " w*ll 

only plain Mr. St. John until July 4, 1712. Naj 
one wtis present at these aeoret interviews but thttj 
two persona concerned ; and if either had 
out the dialoguoa imracdistely afterward, whilt 
memory wa^ fresh, the words "my I.fOrd — — *" 
could not po»sibly nave been used. 

When events in Knglnnd seemed to xro a« 
King of France wished, Mesnager is made tu sa^ 
(p. 104) : *' The King was so surprised, thst h« 
wgan to think it was the elTect of my Mcrtt 
management." lU disclaims the praise, and say^ 
" Nor had I so much as made any of my acrjuaini 
ance yet in Kugland, much leas begun anv ns- 
gotiation." Yei in other parts of the booa bu 
declares that be did nothing but what the Kit" 
had previously directed, nnd that every trnneactic 
was immedintely afterward reported by him ' 
the King. 

Time and space forbid my multiplying 
instances of inaccuracy and laconsisterr"' 
must therefore eufHco to aay, und^r 
that the writer appears to have obta.t-.; 
is historically true from the newr.|Miper»^-C«OB| 
the returns preftonted to the HoubC of Cot 
bv Mr. Secretary Stanhope, on April 8, 1' 
all the papers diiscovered rel.iting to the 
tions for peace, and from the prticei " 
report of the Committee of f^ecresy. The 
caused by the alwtraetion of all the papers 
to the eai'lier and secret negoliiitiuna enabh 
to fill out from imagination the remainJer- 
eluding the dialogues — without fear of conta* 
diction, at leaat until the bt»ok should Utffj 
accomplished its intended object. Thi* brisg*[ 
nie to the next point requiring ronsiderjtinn. 

ITI. The object of the book. Twelve d»yi| 
before the prest-ntation to Parliament t>f 
juat referred to. Lord 15olinjibroko fled 
to France. The night before such yr 
the Earl of Oxford came to Lm' u h 
cnimtry seat, and caused his hrolhrr pubU 
announce the fact in the House of C< 
On June ft following, the Committ*^ of 
to whom the papers had been referred. jirf*«'iif 
their report, when that able lawyer, .*>:r Jm 
Jehyll, one of the Committee, declared to 
House — 

"Tlrnt OS lo Lord Belingbrokc they bad mom 
Buflicient evidence to rofifict faini of hi;.*ti uvsittfi, 
th« Statnte 2S Edw. III. But that ■■ *' 

Oxford, ho doubt«d wbothtr they bu 
malt«>r or evidence to impauch him of Li ^ucmu 

I quote the above as showing the di0«f 
between the two chsca, and the conduct «^ 
accused statesmen, lioliugbroke bad t wW ^ 


T. Fjt». 12, 70.] 



ABkcfa intere^it, and in doing so bad aequired the | 

SfUhip of M. Mcsniiger. The Eurl of Oxford i 
MTPvd a <.jueeo xreary of wnr nnd bliv^dahcd, I 
i_j L_.i i.,3|j| mj mnre inUrcoarae than wiw ub^^o- 
-flHary with tht^ FVpnrh eiui^iftry. Hnd ' 
written th»* book CAlltnl by his nnini*, ! 
if;t of T.6rd Bolin^broUe would have 
'1 in tho most favourable light, what- ; 
t have Injon ita advurati influence on the 
. rd Dxfonl. The object of the writer, 
ariKwrer be mtfrbt be, was the reverse nf thia. 
not only ure nil Icnowa facta stAted unfavoumbly 
liord Boltn^rbroke, but the tictitious con- 

io!i8 between Manager tuxd '* my Lord *' 

mded to concentnitc upon the bend of tho 
itll thht mi^ht be treiuonable in the negfo- 
aad thtis by implicntion to clenr Lord 
Thi> time of its publicfttWi, hnwovt-r^ 
mat ibo object nf the book. The trial or 
rl of < ►xftird waa <lx*xl to tflke place on 
13. 1717, but adjourned lo tho 21th. <>n 
ttft I7th of the same month appeared Mintiies 
Xcfjotialiuna of MoH*r, Mf^naqer, eo ii9 
lit of being read before nnd during the 
but without atlbrding" any opportunity of 
dnff the favourable impression until after 
iproceedinifs should hare teruiinuted. Ua 
1, Lonl Oxford was diwhnrged from bia 

)mit to the judunjent of the remler whether 
!ts stated under the tlireo nrecedlnj^ heada 
or do not, point lo the coDclu^ion that this 
_ 'It WW hastily written in defence of Lord 
I'jrtly before it was publisbed, and oon- 
lou^ after Me.^nager's death. 

t{Tabe concludtd cm tmr jwjf.) 
(4»»' S. It. 658.) 
t remarks of Mr. J. Wtlkfus, B.C.L., sor- 
me. The principle of "suum cuique" is 
taficd by Mr. W. (somewhat sweeping'ly) to 
K '* writingi of Maeaulay," which of courae in- 
»o4e IfijtorT, Reviews, Talcs, Easavs, Bio- 
** ' " md Poetry. However, as Mk. VVilkins 
H proofs to the Dallnds, I have tumetl 
'f^vrin 'ijily. But before allowinp Macaulay to 
Hbficown counsel, I must say that Mr. VV. has 
^ peculiarly unfortunate in hu* two examples, 
'here / can trace neither "coincidences" nor 
tkIji.n»M..ni6." But let that pass. I now beg to 
the consideration of Mr. WitKiTrs the 
^ eitracts, Ac. They show the "prin- 
^lic" after which Mocaulay wrote his noble 
^Uda, and in what sense (if any) he can be 
^Uod a •' plagiarist " or copyist : — 
** It wouM t>av* bwn obviously imprDper to mimio thft 
iHmr of any particular a^je or coittitry, SoinytliinB 
It beeA (forfi>w*d, however, /n^n our ovn old balladsy 

nnil more from Sir Waiter Scott, the preat restorer of 
our bnlhitl-imetry. To the Iliad atill greater obligAlions 
are due." — Pre&co to Lajft of Ancient Romt, 

The aixty-aecond stanza of ** Horatius" is para- 
whradcd from a line in the old ballad of " Cliilde 
WiUers," and from four lines in Scott's •* I*ay of 
the l>a3t Minstrel " ; and, so for is Macaulay de- 
i*L^^u^. ^^ palming on his ruadera the idena of 
other* iw his own, that he actually — true to hia 
'* principle," appends the originals In a note ! la 
the preface to "Tho liattle of the Lake Re- 
gillus," occur the following' passages: — 

"In an age of ballod-poctry, it scarcely ever falls to 
liappen, that cvrtaia ptinuea oome to b« appropriated to 
certain men and thinen, and are rcgulimr applied to 
those men and thingx by every minstrfl. 'I^ius tre find, 
botb in tho Flumeric poems and in Ilt-niud, 3Jti 'HpaNATf«ii7, 
ir^putKvrhi ' fittfpt^vii*is, SiiiaTo^wf 'Afr>f<^Mn)T, iirr<£- 
irvSos &hBTt, 'JiAfVijj (ttH i}9K6fioto. Thus, too, in onr 
own national son^^, Uouglds iit almost always the 
• Doughtv Uou^ltu ': EiigUod is ' merry luigland ' : all 
the ■ gold ' is ' re<l * ; and all the Udici are * gay.' 

** It is unnecoseary to point otu the obrtoas imitations 
of the lUftil, which have been purposely introduced." 

■\Vhat I thus place before Mr. \Vilki:«s oncht, 
I think, to have been well considered by nim 
before he launched his charge of ''plagiarism" 
against Macuulny. 

We possess some admirable modem ballads by 
Leyden, Scott, Southey, Finlay, Hogg, Surteea, 
Mrs. Uowitt, Telfer, and others, for the list 
might be considerably extended. The excellence 
of the compositions of the above boUadists and 
their popularity result in a great degree from 
imitation, or wnat Mr. W. calls " plagiarism.'' 

They made use of stereotyped phrases and 
modes of expression that are found iu every 
genuine old ballad, whether it l>e Scandinavian, 
English, or Scotch. Without mich plagiarism, 
an author may produce a pretty poem and call it 
a ballad ; but it will nut be a genuine one such 
as old miuHtrcla chanted in "castle ball" and 
" ladyo'a bower " or under the " green-wood 
tree.'^* James Henbt Dixox. 




(i-'-S. iv. 409, 575; v. 72.) 

Looking through Part xjtiv. of " N. & Q." I 
noticed ou p. 575 some fragments of on old song 
known as •• The Irishman's Journey to Town ; or, 
the New Langolee." May I ask you to put on 
record a full version of the same ? It may be of 
interest not only to your correspondent M. P. M., 
but also to otners who love to make notes of 

* I never met Lonl Marnulay, but we corresponded ou 
the subject of ballad lit4>raturo ; and it was owing to my 
siiK}^estion that hn br<iu?ht out u chaap and popular 
edition of his ballade— J. 11. D. 





t-l* ?, V. FfcB. ^% TTI. 

thiu^s "when found.*' Liko your correspondent, 
I too, in oiy eftrly days, u=ea to huar the €ong 
with no little nmusement. The words an? &«iit 
to yoM jufit as I took tbem down in the y»'ftr 1^47 
at the dictation of the singer, a South l!iucoIn- 
ftbireman, who was then 83 ycarfi old. 

Joux TrjfKT.Kn, M.A. 
Arkengttth Dale Vicarnf^i', Richmond, Vurk^. 

•• The JrisAman's .Tourney iu Toten ; or, Mr jVeir Lnngotte" 
" When T t«xik my «!t*pnriiire from fair DuMin city, 

For Eni|»l«ncr« own solrthronijh tli« seo« I Ji»l f)Ioiiyh ; 
Four lon^ days and nigl ti 1 was toased up and dowa, 
Like n quid of ckew^il hav in the Ihrout of a coir. 
,forfvar 1 should rnlIw!:oii t tvW fiif-t o»1ocp, sir, 
_ Like n cat I thing rloM*. Uvsi Iiold for to kc«p, Air. 
"^ouod about that big pu.<t that growti out of tlic ship, 
air — 
Och! there did I rid«, ringing; Langnleel 
•• 1 WHS atandinf!^ ,«tock Btlll nil (lie time I wns movin^r, 
'Till irelHiid'ii dear coosl 1 »nw clear out of BJght j 
Tlie ni'xt duy, mvEclf n true Irishman provinjf, 
After leaving tap ship on Un! shore to nlij^ht, 
ri'he )Kjard they put out wiis too nnrrow to quarter), 
Then the flrst s'ten I took I was nil In a totter; 
IJuiDped oti drj* land to my nr' k up in wntcr, 
And there was uo time to »in^ Langoleo. 

*'] went 10 thclnndlonl of all the staixe-coaobes. 
That set sail lor London each nif;ht in the week ; 
Unto him I obnoxiiiunly made my approarhr-j*. 
An a bvrthori bunrd onu I wai* ts^ma for to H'ck. 

* Ai for the iiij-irlt;, I've no cash in my ca>ket,' 

I saul, 'with your leave, sir, MI make bold to a§k it, 
When the coach it gm» off, pray, what time guca the 
For there I could ride, and sing Tjtngoloc* 

** A Her waking bis mouth up, be mid, * Sir, the basket 
Will go after tlie coach a full hour or two.* 

* V<*ry well.' sAys myself, * that will do then for mo,8ir,' 

Tlut the ilevii n woni diil I fmc! Hint w.i» truf. 
The coach went iK-fun.*, and tlic luiskut behind, sir; 
I net oti'jii; by jolc at the very same tJmo, sir ; 
AH that day at night 1 net ntt* by moomtbine, itir, 

Alt alone with a friend, singing Langoleo. 

" A long life to the moon, for it*sa noble awret cretur. 
It f^rvm us for lamp-light cndi night in the dark ; 
While the »un only ihinea in day-time, which Iiy nature 

Wnnt« no light at all, aii you all may remartt ; 
Kut n* for the moon, by mv soul III be bound. ?ir, 
ITwouid be ravini; thi^ nation n yrt'ot many poiinifs, nir, 
To imbti(!rilje, if shv'il liglit at up all the year round, sir, 

1 no muro would giiijj about Lanffolee." 
[In thin \Tr9ion an oniif«ion of E. L. S. (Jan. 15) it 
supplied, besides a variation in a few line* beine irivco. — 
Eu. '•>!'.& Q."j 


(-i"* S. v. 77.) 

I cannot ludprojfrottingthntyonr pon'Mpondent 
n. B. C. tiikca so dl5p«m|t;in^' a viirtv of t'lo t;) hours 
of old John Foxp. I miwt think Ihnt nnyona 
roallv familiar with them, and unliiaA«pd by parly, 
would judj:\' of him fur more favoumhlv, Tim 
truth \i<, that as J'dm Foai>*« martyrs t^ied, lor 
the inOBt part, Iwauso tlioy would not proffjw 


' belief in the Real rrcsen''t', Ibt-y iv^ nnpoiMili 

I alike with Komanists ajtd faahi 
people, while the Lutherans of i 

I fliiuply termed them " the Devil's iimrtvrt 

' their chronicler has been dealt with ac^orJa 
hut I think very unjustly^ by partisan 
such iw Dr. Maitland. 

Of Foxe'a iir»t volume I aay nnthinp : it u 
mere compilation, j^ot up with HttU' iT:al Icami 
and thorou^'h one-^ideancss. ills second '' 
more value to inquirers; but the only part 
work of real iniporluDce *i8 his third to' 
which treats of the Marinn peraeoutiou — aii ^\vw 
uf hia own time ; autl concerning thi^, 1 belio 
iJuraet'a judgment, partiitan aa he too doabtles* 
waa, to be a very well founded one : 

**]d Aome private passages wliich were bron|;1it 
Wm'WFcx) ••upon flying rcporM, hn mnde »niae 
takes, b^g too crc'luhiiis : but .... I never eouZ4 
in bim any prevarication, or an much as a doaigHMl 
cealment. Ue tells the gorxl and the bad, the nptkn 
and ibc passion, as well aa the constancy and paLieiicik, of 
those good men." 

Hia language is, wo know, w vehement %n\ hi* 
temperate as that of Pai-snns and Sanders on th« 
other side. Kut to the cbar^ of mendacity he Uj 
certunly not liable. Does he exa^rgerate iis lolbaj 
number of the men and women burnt in Mary 'a I 
reipiP By calculation from his list, they aivl 
reckoned at 2t<4 ; while other Prot<»alaut^ such as 
Grindal, talk of 80<3. Littgnrd, who p^^rfuroicd 
the functions of Devil's advocate apain*t their 
canoni^tiou, admits "almost 1*00." LKj^-s \w ex- 
aggerate the severities inflicted on them? That 
would not bo easy. But it ia remarkable bow 
very little mejitii»n his pai'ca contaiu of neb of 
wanton cruelty on the part of the perBeculori; 
and how constantly— in the well-known tTWs, fnt 
example, of Kidley and Hooper — he iiscribe* iks 
unusual eufleriug of the victims, not to delibmUa 
iuteutiou, but to accident cr the awkwnnhi'-'* w 
the executioners, Aud the tiingularai' 
like simplicity which he ibrowa over \ 
majority of his namxtivea carriea tho coavicUJi 
of authenticity on the face of it. 

One thing is to be remembered in ■ 
Foxe — that many of his detailed nccoui 
dividual cares were derived from ] 
the sutierera and furni^lied him by i 
or from traditional family acc"ui<: 
tho tjanie way. But this he ttik* 
instance plainly to state; so that 1 1. 
make his own allowances. Of cour 

thdt we should lind the iiarrstor, tin. 

exuUinjT in hi4 own argumi'ntntivG vlctftriesi 
tho Uomiinir^ts who queaiioncd him, nnikini 
best of his fide and the woist of tliei: 
can be misled by stnteuicnt^opeu i 

As to the well-known story about QrHo** 

4^HCV. Km. 12, 70.] 



or and Parcon Prielf, it ia chieflr to- 
CAii.'e, trilling' thou;:U it be, it is the 
■'U ciiustftiillj- silduecd in dis- 
xe's verncily. It has been tnuis- 
' >ak to another, and had the 
artjneudo, by Sir Edward 
■iiL. I 1 iiere is nothiu;; nt all iinpro- 
it, (ind it may lio liid somewbery in 
folios, but I hftvo not mvs^^lf b^tu 
f ' ' it, either by reference to tb^ indox, cr 

'■ 'i»l cbnpter in which Foxe rccounU 

*■ ' death<» luid other jud;rmenLs which 

*'' . 'ilors. Cut I bavo not had an oppor- 

ttrniiy lo fcnrch the tir»l edition for it. 

And — to end with one general remark— nothing 
cui be moro ra-^b than to quote our old volumes 
flf Inw reporl« a^ nuthoritios for nameo c*r otiier 
watteni ot fact* Tho atudonts and '* utter bar- 
jiitew'* who peopled the primitive bncli lows of 
'^ ' itber t^>ok Iiast^v notes of caset on the 

»: fe commonly) jotted down what they 

baa, memoriUr, when they got hack lo 
thi'ir chiimhers. Aa many of them hfid a kfen 
m»ui for A point of law, the*o wribbled meiuo- 
Boda of tl 



if.nci iri'u: 
JionouT of 

r.-i- - M--- 



I " Thn mnst plcuhi? likencw of thee ia an ftrii;iiwl 
drawing' in Mnck cb»lk hy G. M. Krnus of tb« rear 1771!, 
iu whit'h 1 r^co^iifte thi-e nUo>;clhor, iittliuui;h it docs 
not no\T rp>ciiililo thee any fiioru; in nliich cvmthlng — 
furebca.l, e}\'*, ntwe, month, chin mid hjiir— pn}ctC4U from 
one cMiire in Ihc dwelling-place of all that i* la thw and 
of ihnt v>'liicli comw froin lliei'. 

•'Till* (Irnwinic I Jmvo iMt hv some raeana from ibo 
hiiirs ul" thu oM Mooini [(be lii'irary hookst^Uer] ; ho 
liimsolf would lia-e never jrivcu it mc." — Vide GuttAe- 
Zelhr Brif/u-frlisef, VoL liL |(p l£ti, IqO, 

(2.) An outline drawing by Bettina von Arnim, 
" The Ciiild," eni^ved and pretixed to the suL*:jnd 
volume of lier charming Gokke'A JJn'r/iceth»fi mU 
cinem Kinde. Whelber it be drawn by her or not 
(a disputed point ever since tlie appeiiranc© of tbo 
work, together with the Iruthfnlnoaa of the wine), 
I do not venture to Ptate. It rcprcsonta the bead 
of the vononible " old Jupiter" on hia death-bed, 
his brow encircleU by the conventional laurel- 
wreath, without which, however, tl would be istiU 
more fnscinntiog. 

Dr. Dorinp, in his snpplement-Tolume to 
Groothe'a works, published during the poet'a life- 
time, onumerftt«a8ixty-8i\ portniis, busts, medals, 
leirs got into print, became auihoritie?, \ statucB, &c of Goethe, a numlvr mo6t probably 

ttd now not oidy record but constitute law for I ^f*^^ly increased since that volume wan printed. 

Eogliind and America. But names and circuui- (^ido Supplement' Band loi Goethe*s JF<rk^»f Wei- 

JUdom were to them quite immaterial except aa I ^""» l'^2S, pp. 450-408.) 

4QDG«nivd *' the poiiit." In fjict they uiien in- Ale-Tander Trippt-l's (b. 1744; d. 1703) colng»al 
" " ' ■ bust of the poet, executed during Goethc'a Italian 

jourtiey at Rome iu 17^7, caata of wbicli may now 

t«M them to aervo tbo turn. 

Jeah ub Tuoxnrxrn. 


(4"* S. iv. 34C H auii.) 

To ihiMe enumerated by P. A. L., eo greatly 
JJ»«d in ench matttrs, I should like to add, (1.) 
^ fay the excellent artiit Daniel L'hoilowiecki 
d. 1801), en>!raved in 177U. Dertucb, 
to decretaiT of the noble-minded Grand 
1 A^ijg:u^t of fiaxe- Weimar, wrote to the 
I77o that the drawing with which be 
Ml f-yr the |>urpose of an tngi-avin^ was 
:i!y hislorical [i. e. hero m the sense 
i::i'-[Uicated] portrait of Goethe iu the pos- 
•jn of the Dowager Duchese, painted by 3Ir. 
'tf of Franhfiirt." After the completion of 
■sgraWng. liertuch wrote again that the bend 
ddered good ihniv), but that the upper 
received iiornethiug not belonging to it. 
A\ >n. ,.],.. 1. --..Ituiuin's mo.«t excellent 
f f mmtliche\ Kupfet st icfwy 
^. - I'he nrti.-t who pHiuted 

r*"!"' or)rg Jlelcbior Krans of Fnmk- 

yt-^-, (h, 17;{7; d. 1810), who died ' 

J/Ucctor of the Acad.-.nv of Fine ArU at 
or. Thfi worthy '/eitur {vidv " N. & Q." 
itts to bin great friend 
-'►, about the drawing in 

uc bad, is considered the best likeness of him in 
the prime of manhood ; Joseph Karl Stiolor'8 
(b. 1781; d. 1858) portrait, mentioned by P. A. Ix, 
painted in 18*28 for King Ludwig of Bavaria, is 
said to bo the bei^t of hia old age. A good en- 
graving after this painting is prefixed to Mr, I^wos' 
classical Life of Goeihtj 2nd ed. in one volume, 
London, 1801. Hbeuaxn Kibot. 


(4»S. v. 112.) 

The epistolary note of M. Dobasoe, Conserraleur 
de 1.1 ItibUoth4que de Tours, remiude<l me of a 
scarce volume in my possession which seemed, 
even by its designation, to promise some par- 
ticulars on the question proposed. The hope 
entertained was not realised; but I shall tran- 
scribe from it a summary of the career of Walter 
lord Hungerford, which may serve as a duo to 
the researches of other contribuiora : — 

" Sir Tlioma-* de Uungerfonl [of Fiirlcy. ob. 1S98] had 
]*mc hv Juan hia wife, — 1. Ithudulnh.— i. TliumAH. — 3, 
.lolin ; all of whom died during the iJlVtInie of their 
father, without i^juc; the fuurtli son tlicrL-fuic succeeded. 



Hunger ford. 

ObUt 1440. 

First wife, 


Second wife. 




t4^ S. V. Fen. 12, 7ft, 

Mtat«B sml fcp'h hr>nr,r^ were n^ftlo acqoirerl 
by tItU marrikira w "/Z hcircM; aiid I 

think it probaUe H (h< HuDgeHbrd* 

bore, vix. a Usrt% U..-.,^,, .., ,, .>,^»J«, wu borroircd 
ftom ibe anm ofPt^trtO, whicfa w«n thnc Garbf. TtiU 
Lord Aililrd mueb to the braily honors a» we And l>>- 
bia will, iUt<<<l I July, IU% he iitylod him«eir lord uf 
Han»;erf(»rJ, Hevt»?^ury, mud H'unet, wbicU lart title be 
Miqtdred by a urant of the barony of Homel for bis scr 
rices in the Frcnrfi wartf. He had no ^nrriring i-jun hy 
hi»*ea}Md wife, lllrniior Berkidfv, but by Uit firit wife, 
Catharine Pevereil, be hod wveral children, vii. 1. Wai- 
ter, who (lied f^ I', — 2. Robt.Ti.— 3, Edmund.— 4. Jl^liwi- 
betbi— anrl 5, Mari^oret. — The Jirtt died without itout*. 
The »ert>nd fton. Kolicrt, succeeded to the faioily estat« 
Kid hnnor*. Kmm tbe tfiini non, fCdmumi, onginated 
that brnnoh of tho Ilunjerfnrl family, which setttrd at 
Down Ain[)n»'y, (■<( wliuni h-Ti^ufttr :^ I'llizilii'tli inarrit^d 
Sir i'hilip ('(lurtLTiay i-f IViwdc-rhum, and MargatL't wm 
w«dded to Sir Walter Itouney." 

Th« volume is entitled Huxokbpokduha; or 
memoirn of the fnmiifj of Ilunyerfurd, coUected h^ 
Sir Richard Colt Hoak'e, Bart. iti23. f<*. TitJe-i- 
to thft rpndor+pp. 150-f- plates. The impresaiuo 
WHa limited to 100 copies. Tho copy befor« ine 
oontainn ft Ictt'^* from the author to the rev. 
Frrkncia Wranghara, and thia note : " Much mati 
Im arifted:' 

I proceed with a mixtoxe of facta and conjec- 
tujre^. Tho fiurta are derived from tho volume of 
Sir R, C. HoAro ; the conjectures nro mv own — 
worthlf'aB or otherwise. 

Rolwrt, liOrd Uungerford, married Mnrgnret, 
daiighti*r and h«ir lo Williftm, Ijord Botreaux. 
Tho poor di«d in 14^; his widow survived till 
1477. Robert, their rirst-bom, was a prifHmer in 
France " npwardu of Beven years." Mi^ht ho 
not have had the precious ^ft with him, and have 
sold it to relieve his necessities P It had ceased to 
be his prtipprty in August 14^93. 

A vast sum waa deniauded for the mnsom of 
the prisoner — au anti-cbiraln>iis custom of tho 
age of chivalry I The Lady Miir;,'aret mor(ga(?ed 
estates, and oven sold the family plalo, in order 
to raiftfl tho sum refjuired. If the nUBsal had 
heen at Ileytcsbury, it might not have escaped 
aliunation. • 

I can perceive no evidMce of a connexion be- 
tween the I)e liiieil and i hmtjerford families, and 
submit uiy conjeoturea to M. i)oRA?«OK, and lo 
other ontiqiiurien, but with much dillidvuce. 

Bamw. 8. VV. 

Th*^ first pfirt of M. DoRaxoe's enquiries is very 
ley to answer. Ho wishes to receive— »'de3 
details sur Hunj^erford dont il est question dans 
les notes ci-divjsus." 

The Avtis mentioned in the Lntin inecriplion in 
the missal was Sir Walter Himperford, Lord 
lluujft'rr'urd of Farley in Somcrsetfihire, who had 
auiumons to Parliament from 14^1^ to li49. 




His i^ndsoD Sir Robert HaDgerford, 
HungvrTord from 1450 to 1463, was abw l^ord 
Molyns, Jure usori^ Hence in tlie iuscriptioa 
in the missal he is spoken of as ** domino dor 
Molyns"; because, b«iore he becam#» lx>rd llun- 
(jerford, ho had summons tn F' 
Molyns. I preinmi? thai F*an. 
in Normandy. Hnmet, one oi ihc lilies -jl biA 
(grandfather, certainly was. 

Robert, Lord Hungerford and Molya», A 
with Talbot Earl of Shruwsburv the def<>at 
Chastillon, but escaped with his lifr 
Ue remained prisoner in France >■ 
four mouths, and obtained hi- •■"'" 
ment of a ransom of 7600/. ' 
took the Lancastrian sid*^, o; 
Hexham, was raptured n 
Ue was buried in ShIi 
details, jpd mtirh more iw» tn tht* \ i 
to be 5«*en in Thf Dnrmm^i find K '"^m 

of Efighwl, by T. C. BatikH, 18(^s ; H„a in 7lU 
ilidonf and AhtiffuitUt of tb^ Cf»mtif of SornrmH^ 
by the Rev. John Collinsou, F.A.S.* ITiH. 

Tho second part of il. Doiuxob's eufioirics 
beyond my knowledge. But I have to ask a 
favour of him. It sometimes happens that, «B 
the margins nf the ancient bookn of Catholic I)(h 
TOtions, such a** this fine miasal of which h» hsi 
given us an account, there are not only ^nob 
inscriptions ai? he bns recited, but also iIk* sm* 
of families. Will M. Uora50B have the kindooH 
to say whether he finds the arms of which 1 vfll 
now give a blazon ? 1 give it in French : — 

1. Ue feable, a deux fasces d'ar^ent, et twb 
besans d'aryrent rangds en chel". — Hmwerford. 

2. Parti danch^ de gueules et oe veitt M 
chevron d'or. — HeyUslmry, 

3. PalU ond< de six pteoes d*nr et de gueulM-^ 

4. De sable au chef d'or charg^detroislassnsil 
de gueulea. — Motyn» aldo. I'. P« 

Stuarti Lodge, Bialv«ni WeUa. 

(4»* S. iv. 434, 647.) 

CvwBM dissonta "as a Cymru " front 
planation of this name, though why be 
import his nntiouality into the subject 1 
know. "St. Tuduo" is probably a myth: 
regard to the other usme, it is not'dlffWi 
beliovo that "dreamlnud iiml the ' ■ ' 
Tery often Ho in cUwo proximity 
unfireque.ntly intcrchan^'eahle." I ' * 

to pTeaervo tho memory of thesft .; 
remains of a bygone f-uperstition it. 

to be nsed as evidence in doi. i m;:; )J*sI 
of fact. How about tbp nam '^' 

too. from St. Tudno ? Thu i ! 

dvdia " and personal name 

,Y. F«*. 12,70.] 



i^aafirtl It hw been nittily coDJectured ihftt 
** t^ere we more emmU in Cornwall tbar in 
lMt;T«o '* — It remark, I siu^ect, that appUea with 
0qD*l force to the Oyniric divinities. We need 
not troTol far for &n illustration of an npof rvphnl 
aaint. Take the example cited by T/w ^imes 
Ferinwer of Mr. Taylor's U'ortU and Place* : — 

•*<\n** of tlir fir«t Ii|:.'tir« f«ca \ty the ninriucr «n(erisij( 
tJ»- ■ ' " uys, ** is that ol' St. Allies, in 

fk rn addition, lt.4 prt)[>i;r name, 

fit' f tiriir lirffh, temp. Uiihard I., 

ai" 1 1 a liiis u( later records, u eimpl y Ha^eiwa* 

VT : < map id tb« CotU HSS. bf (lie nft««oUi 

<if»*j-i(«r jiuri of the sixtPcntU c<ntury," In: conlinuea, 
** Mylc9 it At)gnc4; and the ^^''cpciciMB wf might otiier* 
wiw fw] a» to tlie origin of the name is ncnitered when 
•wt find tin- prinoipal port of Scdlly caU»l Grim»iy." 

Kxample? of this kind mi^ht be mnltiplied in- 

dBfinitely. Ab vno disce omnet. Ctwku iafunas 

Uf tiiat "jast over the town" are " woU-deliiied 

tnce* of ao antHent JJriish fort " — a etat^incnt, I 

f w p;v n *«, wbich migbt be limited by construction 

■ existence of a fort simply ancient: 

itied by the aboriginefl or Ncirthmen 

u uljiiuuslv bpyond hia ken. Cvitrm hn« *'no 

Aanbt," or rather fiepnifl to aay ** thore i« perfect 

cerUintT," tlial the Norwegians '* ravaged the 

coMftB 01 Wttlea." Mr. Woraaae, however, tells us 

^^ ■ *' i.ide theroeelves '* mastere of Wales." 

1 tiierctore, with probability that a 

t.|.ir Ml t^ lioiii Dr. Jiibnson observes that they 

''f^atoanvd the arU of life," would display all the 

MtpAeodn^r skill oeceffiarv to the defence of thfir 

it*. the aboriginal Britons t we knKW 

d»3lii!-l\ nothing:, save as ** naked barbftriaiis, 

-re or monuments to preserve their 

^ • iianping liniit"." Their couditioD ia 

^\j d''«rri^»ed in a pamphlet by the late Mr. 

^'"'rb nf Bolton, the text of which is based on 

•hapen renresentiition of the Forteviot 

rv at Freeland Uout«.| Tbia gentleman 

• Vanifinavian pruptr nnmo Rtfg-r. 

• '''"* m gCKTO RruundA Uit beliering that ibe 

-> usually attribute to tbr Celts contain n 

Mfo uf Gothio, the Orttuti^ of the poriuti to 

tliifv bjiT« bcm roforTpd tHrinc tti all hiimMii pru- 

vp of an(?tent or aboriptial Kriton^ Ko- 

iK B«lgx!« Danes, Narthinen, and other IVutonic 

fxhfWrinn of artistif in felicity— couveyiity 
vcs fl.s the frimtis- 

■. rj of Scuff ftml hy 

. - 1-, LL.U., fixe* its 

i)? ol tiw twtljih cfntnry, in rfgard to 
li /A'ff '^rn l}r no rtunonabU doubt. 

John PinkerLno. It lii 

nrvh of Lhi! Mvlo whii^b 

m wtllKr>i of Nifrth Bri- 

■riifiiial uliucLure of the 

)•; in (he aame eru at the 

■ihf. I'riot to thi» 

■rt arn rw r«maiw 

'-'-. though cortain 

|tf«UiaUinc " l/}i* have autried tbc 

propumided the notion that tlie ancient Briton^ 
t>eiu^ without Te«i»ela of any kind to hold water^ 
grouped themselves by the nmrgina of running 
streams to which they were limited by the necea- 
ffltiea of their condition. By-and-hv they made 
themselves vessels of ruahee, whicn saved the 
awkwardness of lapping the water with their 
bauds. This expedient, however^ Afforded only 
temporary relief ; for the water and all, it may be 
supposed, save the larger animalculn, escaped 
through the crevices. In a lucky moment, one 
more knowing than the rest conceived the idea 
of lining the inside of the vessels with wrought 
clay, by wbich thev were enabled to penetrate to 
the interior. Whether this archaic di:iCuverer 
protected hia inyentiou by letters patent does not 

Ten years ago, it would seem, CmvBM moved 
"a rocking stone'" with " one linger"! Who 
knows but that, through this simple circumstance, 
be may have been the innocent occasion of the 
unworthy proooeding on the part of the j»ersoiifl 
complftined of.* who, with the like di.sjK»aition tO 
banale, though not in his appreciative mood, 
regarded these venerable remainH as '* Peter 
Bell " did the primrose — posdibly as excresoencea 
which it was the business of an ** Improvement 
Oompanj' " to remove ? 1 am not aware that im- 
provement rampanios have goiemlly rendered 
themselves famous as conservators df archaic re- 
mains, but rather " like tlio anarcbists of Kurope, 
who destroy ererytbin|.' within their reach uy 
wav of puttiu|z everything in order." 

•tbe men of Wales, like " the men of Scotland, 
appear tn be short of speech when going into 
tight, neither indeed wasting manv words upon 
peaceable occasions.'* The '* Sbignom " of the 
Mackenzics, Montagu tells us, was '' Tulloch- 
dar '* ; that of the Omnta " Craig KUachie," " as 
a Ct/»trUf" CrwuM, '• Cryd Tudno," '* Tudno's 
Cradle'* — a cuckoo-call, wbich may bo repeated 
iudetinitelr witlioiit further interruption from me. 

J. C. Roger. 

Date op Entui akd First PrnLicATioK or 
Works by Dakikl Detok (4"" S. iv. 477 ; t. 
lOTf,) — in his iir«t communication Mb. IIall gav^ 
us the dat»"s of entry in the books at Stationert' 

contrary. Sir C. Anderson, in hi* Kiyht H'eekt' Joumti 
in A'onniy, notices the rcapmbluni-e of the Kurwaghin 
churches to many of tho»o in the dl^'rieta of Kn;;1ui(l 
knovfn to have bwm inhnhited hy tlie Northmen. •* It is 
probable." be says. " that buihlingft rtttribulLHl lit the 
SiLXons, on tlic eaatem side of Englaml, are the works of 
the Scandinavians.*' 

' If tlicre Imj anythinp in the lincfl of MatUDn^ it would 
ewm n* if the ahiiile uf St. Juduo had deserted it4 post : 
*• II more* olweauiou* t*> the pLu ■ ' 

Uf him whoso oreosl is pure ; ' I'^'r, 

Though e'eu a giant's prowe^ '- <inn, 

U stands as fixed as Boowdon." 



[4«»S.T. Pi». 12,70, 


Hull of nbout hfllf-ft-dozen volumes by Defoe. 
With onlv one exception exich dates confirmed 
thoHi' givt'a by me aa tbo days of publication. Aa 
to Moii FiimdtrSf ibe exception, I referred Lim in 
reply, sjjeciticallv, to the journals adverti^iog the 
^nbiication of iJie first ediliou ; nud "tfuutti'd" 
for him the roltune itself in the British Museum. 
IJe goes bnck to Stationers' Hall for re-examina- 
tion, and writes the result in his present article, 
which does not contflin a particle of proof that it 
refers to the first edition. 

I assure Mb. Hall that it is ''pleasant" to 
have so geula) a critic, and yet nothiujr to answer. 
I may, in a second edition, have to add to, and 
possibly correct^ but certainly not to ** rancel " 
my "Chronological Catalo<.'ue'" of Defoe's Works ; 
and I have, therefure, made a memoraiiJuin to 
send him ** a copy of the revised sheets " for his 
trouble, as requested. 

In the meantime, without quoting the whole 
litle-pngo, can his hynothe-sis explain the follow- 
ing atite, from tho tluo of a copy lyin;^ before 
mop — 

•• Written from her own Memoranclumn. The Second 
E<Iiti>ia, coiroctnd. l^ndon : Prinlinl for John Brothw- 
toi. .-.t the Ijiblo in CvrnhUl. jmuius: the Uoyol Kjt.hanj;c. 

^y, Lee. 
Your comspondent Mb, Hail asks " whether 

it would not oe correct to denominate 

Dec, ."J, 1722, of tho above transcripts aa Dec. 3, 

The reply must be, certiiinly not. Tiie civil 
year then began on March 25. It was, therefore, 
only the days between Jan. I and March 24, in- 
clusive, that could be written in that manner. 

Kdwabd Pkacock. 

14-'i.) — I'erhnps it may be well to state that Mr. 
J. li, Doniel-Tyseen's work, from which I gave 
extracts lost \veek, is piivately printed for the 
author. Xiiouas WALEtiUV. 

Major ANDn£ (4*^ 9. iv. 337, 543; v, 77.)— 
77« 'J'imvs lately gave the following : — 

** jrfji Historic t'erjuintj^. — The (lejilh w nnnoiinc&d of 
Mrs. WariA Harding of Uloster, New Jtrtcy. This Uilv 
WM one of the evewitneaftts of the executiou of Major 
Andn^. It wns she who gave to Major Andre oo tho 
morning of tho exocution a handful of peaches. The 
uiAJor corrled tlie fruit K>ino dlstaiioc, and (hen ijnvo U to 
a little girl. Mr*. Harding wns ocL'ii.-tutnc<T i '. :' 

thi.i ev^nt, and to doacrilM in tntlm-iatti.- !■ , 
lant bearing f)f tbo ill-f<ile>] oliiccr.nlwayscoii : _ _, :.f 
de«cripliuii with the • wil/commcut ' — ^Somehow, lia (Ud 
not Kccin to Love any appetite' " 

As this pad event took phe - 
Ilfinliug must have tbeu t 
pi>rbtips the very one to wh< 
the fruit. 

Kapha EI.' 


IcLyo by Raphael ho is inquiring liftiir ^Th« 
ujni of Abel"? Passftvant, tliu i^Ti'Atest au- 
thority as repards the enumeration of TvApha^rni 
works and their whereabouts, does not if- 
picture under that namo^ but speaks uf 
picture, painted on wood (8A inchee x 14 mcut 
under the appelbtion of *^ The Saciilice of Ci 
and Abel." lie writea: — 

" Mnre jually conceived thau ablv executed, ia ■ mp^J 
picture in which i^ represented how Cain and Abd Mcr^' 
fice toother. The former is knc-ulinfr h^furv Ibo altafv 
brining tiod his sacrifice in troo simplidtv nr h^firt, tV-' 
8:icriticu I>eing, as s tukeii of graciotu acc> { 
by a (ire from heaven. Caiht on llie on 

hardened mind, takes bold of bit altai ..:.. l -- 

hand» and bluws tho fire with all hi« powvr, Uic nnokj* «r 
which wilt nctt ascend, ... 1 saw the pi'-tore in 
England, in the hands of a dealer in ••' n.*— 

Vide Itufael von Vrbino vn