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twurne, i— P«Ml»il«ry'i» Kiuiiuuit CoUecUon of Poetry, 3- - 
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In chooBing Kensington Gardens for the 
hftunt of Peter Pan and his olftflh companiona. 
Mr. J. M. Barrie Uoa followed tbo exaniplo 
of an early eigliteenth-ccntury poet, Thoma« 
Tickt'll, wlio |>oopled the same district witti 
a fairy hoet who 

f>ri f'xrry hill, mwl tUiiowl in every shade. 

s time KcMLsington Gardens was 
I le re^iort. whore, ho tells us, 

' till oiV 'u\ rrT>wd«» rei»air, 
i«l iMiiMiIluu^l djr ; 

H. m l.iwnir'-' — -M'^ '|."-i^ ■■••-;. lies, 

Ti in >'Uii.'«hii 

Bu: "I'f H.S h '^J ■ " ■ - to tho 

bt'M"! > of curly Hanoverian days, 

th< ]■ iw that 

Fji wUcii its iHNiplcii j,T«run<l 

^' ; »ii«l tlaKxUii); tiiwiiTM WAH cntwiietl. 

In 111 (lio Hcat of Obcron, tho Elfin 

kin.-. i(wl hert*. Only fmriea were 

tu\ uU» tho lK?autifiil domain that 

■u. I hia palace, ••xeept when some 

djJ^io^ cU stole a mortal child from 

tilt" tn«Uun')i Imil 
And left momi liokly obanis«linK in its ^tea'J. 

Thtia it wa3 that young Albion, a prince of 
Britain, came to the liaunta of the fairies, 
was fostered by tliem, and grew to bv tho 
wonder of the wood for height, and strengtli, 
and beauty : — 

Hiw lofty iK)rt bin lutTuau hirth ct-fifcKt ; 

A focjt in nej;jl»t ! How stately did he »»h*iw ! 

How l«K)k !<uiM^nut f»ii the crowd W'lt^w ! 
A fairy princess falls in love ^^^tfl him. and 
he returns her affection with equal wamjth. 

HenoAth a lofty tulipx nn»i>lt Aindc 
tliey sigh their love into each other's ears, 
and plight their trotlt 

In words so nieltinj|2; tJmts, Oi>mjiarwl with thtitw.-, 
The nicest cciurtHlui> of ttin-eHtriiti U^aiix 
VVniUd sound like eoiii|»liin*?nM fn.nn txiuutry flMWn*, 
To ro<l-cheeked »weethL'art'4 in their hotneM|mn 


King Oberon, all unseen, watches their 
pasaionate love-makinc;, and overhears their 
vows. He had cherished other views for 
Kenna's future, and is furioun at what he 
has seen and heard. He decree's, as a 
punisluuent for the luckleea pair, the im- 
mediate banialnnent of AJbioa from fairy- 
land and the speedy marriage of Ivenna to 
another lover. Axuriel. whoso large and fair 
domains stretchetl 

Where the skitrs hijjh Hijllmul Htuae invade*. 

We need not pursue the story further 
than to say that the death of Albion in 
battle is followcil by the destruction of tho 
fairy kingdom and tho dispersal of the 
fairiew. All except heart-bn-ken Ktnnna 
seek a liome elsewhere. She tontinued to 
haunt the grove where licr mortal lover, 
trying to say, 

** KeiiuA, frtrcwell !** hod fctshcd his sotU away. 

Her faitliful attachment to scenes endeaivd 

by the memory of a lost love has W^en 

rewarded by the bestowal of her name np(>n 

* tho neighbouring town "' of Kensington. 

Such in brief is Tickeirs stton,'. ani aftnr 
tho lo|k»o of a hundre<l and eighty-four years, 
tho fertile fancy of another imaginAttve 
writer has once more given to airy nothing 
a local habitation and a nan it*. Kenna'n 
home is again alive with fairie>, and. aided 
by the fantastic j^>eneil of Mr. Arthur KiM-k- 
ham, Mr. Barrie has eonjuretl up for t»s « 
twentictheentury vision of the doings of 
the ** little people '* of Kensiiigton. obout- 
whoee loving and fighting Thomas Tirkell 
tried to interest our ancestors in the d«>'a 
when CJeorgo I. was king. 

Tickell may be safely elaasetl amontr Iho 
forgotten i>oetH, though he wrote a goo<l 
d»u, was the companion of Addison, ami 
in one inatanoo appeared as the ri\'td of 
Pope. Ho was A North-Countryman, a 

NOTES AND QUERIES. [lo s. vil jax. a, 

native of Bridekirk, in Cumberland, where 
he was bom in 1686. He received the 
beginning of his education at Carlisle 
Grammar School, but from the commence- 
ment of his ooUege career saw little of his 
native North. He mixed freely with the 
wits of his time, and contributed verses to 
The Guardian and The Spectator. His friend- 
ship wiUi the Addison clique of politicians 
secured him an appointment of a lucrative 
character in Ireland — Secretary to the Lords 
Justices — which he held from 1725 until 
his death at Bath in 1740. His poetry is 
of the conventional eighteenth-century type, 
and if we did not remember that he was but 
aping his betters, we might well be filled 
with wonder at the fulsomenees of the 
flattery in which he sometimes indulged. 
He is not likely to have his work resuscitated, 
though a student of the period in which he 
lived can hardly a£ford to ignore him alto- 
gether. John Oxbekby. 


DUGDALE, in his * Hist, of Warw.* (1730), 
i. 346, mentions as being in Long Itchington 
Church a tablet near the pulpit referring to 
the above lady. He gives the inscription and 
arms thereon. T am inclined to think he 
was wrong in using the word " tablet," as 
Uiere still exists in the church an achieve- 
ment and inscription, painted on canvas 
enclosed in a wooden frame, which corre- 
sponds in all other respects with his descrip- 
tion. For many years past (doubtless 
since 1860) this painting has hung at a point 
over the western or tower arch, from which 
it was quite impossible for any one to see 
its detaUs. Last September it was brought 
down from its elevated position, and placed, 
with certain charity records, on the wall 
at the west end of the south aisle. Before 
it was rehung I examined it closely and as 
my reading of the arms somewhat differs 
(especially with regard to the tinctures) 
from Dugdftle's, I submit it to ' N. & Q.' 

At the foot of the canvas runs the follow- 
ing inscription : — 

The truly Virtuous & Right Honorable the 
Lady Anne Holboume one of ye Dauehters 

* Cohcires of ye Right Honoble S' Rob* Dudley 
K» Ihike of ye Empire who bequethed 50" per 

annum to 

M' Sam: Row minister of this Church &. to his 

successors for 

ever also 60" more to ye i)Oore of this Parish. 

Above this is a femme shield containing 
the following arms :— 

Quarterly, 1 and 4, Arg., on a fesae sa. 
three oraMents or, in chief two choughs (?) 

rising of the second; 2 and 3, Sa., 
lions passant in pale arg. ; impaling— 

1. Or, a Uon ramp, double-queue 
langue gu. 

2. Gu., a cinqtiefoil erm. 

3. Or, two lions passant in pale sa. 

4. Arg., a cross patonoe sa. 

5. Barry of six arg. and sa., in chie 
torteaux ; a label of three points sa. 

6. Or, a maunch gu. 

7. Barry of twelve arg. and sa. ; ( 
of martlets sa. 

8. Vair^ arg. and gu. 

9. Gu., seven masdes conjoined oi 
and 1. 

10. Sa., three garbs or. 

11. Gu., a lion rampant within a I 
engrailed or. 

12. Gu., a fesse betw. six cross-crosE 

13. Ghequy or and sa., a chevron e 

14. Gu., a chevron between ten 
patt^e arg. 

15. Gu., a lion passant goardan 
crowned or. 

16. Or, a fesse between two chevro 
The inscription bears the marks 

touching in several places, and the 
has at one time beian repaired; I 
achievement has not apparently bee 
pered with. The tinctures are tl: 
m some instances very hard to define 
to the mellowing tendency of the < 
ages. On the sides and at the U 
bottom of the frame are painted hour 
and skulls and crossbones. Lady 
Holboume was granddaughter to 
beth's Dudley, the Earl of Leicest 
figures conspicuously in history as tl 
band of the ill-fated Amy Robsai 
married secondly Douglas, daugb 
William, Lord Howard of Efiinghf 
whom he had one son, Robert. This 
married AUce, daughter of Sir 1 
Leigh, the issue being five chUdren, oj 
Anne was the yoimgest. She marr 
Richard Holboume, SoUcitor-Gene 
Gharles I. This and other parish 
benefit by the chuitable bequests o 
Anne Holboume and her sister 
Catherine Leveson, wife of Sir I 
Leveson, K.B. 

Banks's * Dormant and Extinct P< 
(iii. 260) states that Lady Anne Holl 
who died in 1663, was buried in the 
of St. Giles-in-the-Fields, London, 
be glad if some London correspondc 
kindly tell me if any tablet or mox 
dedicated to her memory still remaint 
John T. P 
Long ItchingtoD, Warwickshire. 


10 & TIL Jan. 5, 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


(See, 361. 402.) 


V\t. 3*Ji, On the |a'o«ii«-ot of |>eftoe.— A(1rIreR<»e<] 
_D rtt*.i l>ir«J Pi-ivy ^S<?J^l, l)r. Kol>itiw>i», then Bishup 
c»f BnnUjl. 
Gray C Letters,' ed. Tovey, i. 182) say«: — 


Dies ill iM.>trtry, - 
CJemittJi dute, hut 

ily n Htut> 
|Rjt;iii oil ' 
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il. I, ..,>.'■! of 

' rliit'c or tour 
.. like thoHj^ of 
^u' h .11 --t-Htn ure and satiate 
Be I'MT %*i!h thfir Jrf«iuent return. Tii-kell lias 
rl.l.^d 1,. 'hiH a t^PMit iw>vrrty of RtnifM*, nm\ n string 
-ris- thnt tiAiiily liecorne a. jichtxilW'. 
1 lornivv liinj U>r thv «ake of Inn Iwllad 
'I nlin aiKJ Lucy 'J. which I iUwuys thought the 
♦•ttieKL i:i ihf wtiHrl." 

poem * On the Prospect of Peace * 
higfily lauded by both Pope and Addi- 
It went tlirough six editions. 
22-6. To ihtj Eurl of Warwiok. on the death of 
r. AeldiwfTi. 

2tt~3iJ. VMu Mtt\ Lucy. 
rHi.SM. On i}>ii nrnphcoy of NcroosL— Referring to 

;jb-7. Ot» U.c 
aK.4L Odr t4 

•libit r' '-- 

41 «■' 

\ Knpllor ni bin oouutry stait 
. i.hnm. \7£L 
ii«^*U» t>f th«j Khi 1 of Crtdo^jan. 
the Eiirl of Suuth-'iLiiid at ^^'iDds<^r. 

toil •^JAHcd. 

oni A Lidy in England to a Kt'iitle- 
ill at A'l i^rt<>>i. 
he ttbove are by Thomas TickelH* D.N.B.*). 
'he * Epistle ' waa published anonymously 
1717, and reached five editions. To the 
liriOH beginning " To Rome then must 

royal wand'Ter go," and ending " The 
oftertHi purple and the hat rnay please," 
oraco Waljiole in Ids copy T^Tote' the coin- 
lent : ** Thw litterally became the Lot of 
le la-it of the Fatiiily." Bramston says 

h,_. • Art ..I i'-.r,f.,-. ' :1_ 

Aoxxs opinion 
1 , i N letter to Angiion. 

[6(kiL I'lie f<<nude wigii, an ode, by Mr. [Samuel] 

>r .' \ arton speaks of him (Nichola, 

^lit. <^ of the I8th Cent.,' \i. 170) 

1*^ autlior of a very fine ode in Dodaley's 
lies " ; again, " his ode in Dodaley 

U>wn •<c)(igiie« by thu Right Hon. 
M, — Lady M»ry Wortley MontH;iTi 

1 Mm Uv. Rt>xAnArthc Ihichcwof Rtixhurgh], 

viivgroom.— Ootiitetilla l» th« DucheM of 

ly. St. Juxicsa cofhe hou«c. Silliandf r 
>beU] *»d Patch LLord Hertford).— 

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3. Wednesdnv. The tAte A t<>U\ 

4. Thiii-sdrtV. The hiWHc-tti* Xa\>\v. - 
Mary Wortlev Moutnijul and C4*nl 
of BmtolJ. 

This is printed by Anderson among Pope's 
works. Sharper is Lord Stair ; Ombrelia f 
Mrs. Hanbury ; Betty Loveit is Mrs. South- { 
welL Corticelli's i-s described by VValpolo-1 
as " a fashionable Indian warehouse at th»^^ 
upper end of Suffolk Street, and a rendezvous 
of galantrj." 

5. Friday. The To,lett«?, Lydia [Mf<«. Coke, wifs 
of the Viee-ChamlH?rlnih]. 

This is printed by Anderson, \\'ith coniiider-1 
able alterations, anion^ Gay's works, Daniofi 
is Lord Berkeley. " Your wife " (two Une 
after^'ards) i.s Ladj' Louisa I.,enox (*t'c). Ta 
I. 15, '*aide boxes," Walpole puts the note 
" ladies at that time sat m the tront-boxes,| 
men in the side," and adds the Une '' When 
bows the side box from its inmost rows ' 
(•Rape of the Lock'). 

6. Saturday. The Sniall-iJfix. ilavia (Lady Mar 
Wortlcy Montagti]. 

Mirraillio (1. 71) is usually said to be Dr. 
Gibbons ; Walpole says that it is Sir Hans 
Sloane. Machaon (1. 77) is Garth. Hor»oe 
WalpoIe*s not© is : — 

" These eclojjuea Lady ^L Wortley allowed me ta_ 
transcribe from a vohime of her 7»o«ms in U.S. at»1 
Fliirenut? in 1740, and from my cony Drxlsley nrinti-d ' 
thorn tmd the ' Efibtle fnmi A. tirey,' 'TheLjver.' 
and the ' Ki»ilojj;ue '; and her Ladyshi 
the iK-'rsoiiH alhided to. Bi>. Warinu 
the second eclojj^io as Poiie's, who ni. 
at least transcrilK; it ; but it {is cvidenij that all tkxj 
are by the same hand and not like Po|»c." 

The words in brackete are much blurred. 
Gray (' Letters,' i 187) wrote:— 

" The to>%'n in an owl if it don't like I^Ady Mary, 
and 1 am sari»risod at it ; we here [Camhrid|n?J artfj 
owls enough lo think her eclogues wry baa; Ix 
that I did not wonder at." 
The ' Epistle from Arthur Grey the footm&n^ 

to Mrs. [Gnselda], afterwards Lady, 

Murray ' waa subsequently suppressed. Sho 
died 6 June, 1759. 

Iftl-T. The lover, a Inllad. to Mr. fRichardl C— 

Eldest sou of Dr. Chandler, Bishop of 
Durham. He married Elizabeth, the only 
daughter of Lord James Cavendiah, whose 
name he took by Act of PariiAment in 1752 

lOT. The Imly's resolve, written cxteiopurv ou 


IW, The gentleiiuin'H answer, 

HIK-II. An .-i.i.ll.' to Ijunl B— [But hurst). 

ll*i-i:t. ! ■Mary.(^ueenofS<.-oi>.i*»tragiHl7| 

begun b\ . of Wharton), desijcn'd to l:i#| 

Kffoken 1'^ 111 

lU-l,x > I iLt the va IN lura, written t4 

Lady J— J ^ (iter of the Earl of GarU 

NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. jan. 6, uo7. 

The above are also by Lady Mary Wortley 
Montagu. An account of Lady Lrwin is 
printed in Walpole'a * Royed and Noble 
Authors,' ed- Park, v. 166-7. She wrote 
.an answer to this " Receipt." Both pieces 
are printed in the ' Additions to the Works 
^f Pope ' (1776), i. 168-70. 

116-46. The Spleen, au enistio to Mr. C— J— [i.e., 
Oithbert Jackstnil By Mr. Matthew (^reen of the 
Custom-house— * D.N.B.' 
•Oray says (* Letters,* ed. Tovey, L 183) : — 

" All there iH of M. (jreen hero has been printed 
before ; there is a profusion of wit everywhere; 
reading would have formed his judgment and 
'harmonised his verse, for even his wood-notos often 
break out into strains of real jwetry and musia" 
Walpole says of * The Spleen ' :— 

" This is as original a poem as ever was written. 
It has the wit of Butler with the ease of Prior with- 
out imitating either, and tho' so poetic all the 
images are taken from the streets of London." 
He fills up the blanks g— 1 p — s as " gospel 
propagators," and to such was of late a 
corporation" adds "the Charitable Cor- 
poration." When (zoldsinith asserted that 
■there was no poetry in his age, Dodsley 
Appealed to liis own collection as a refuta- 
tion, and particularly mentioned *The 
Spleen.' Johnson's comment on this was: 

"1 tldnk Dodsley gave up the question 

•The Spleen' is not poetry^' (Boswell, 
11 Apl., 1776). To the account of Green in 
the M).N.B.' it may be added that two 
letters by him are in the Political State for 
July, 1740, pp. 85-9. 

146-7. An epigram on the Rev. Mr. l^urence 
.Kchard's and Bishop (Jilbert Burnet's histories. 
147-9. The si>arrow and diamond, a song. 
irjO-1. Jove and Semele. 
1.T2-.3. Tlw seeker. 

153-7. On Bai-clay's a|>ology for the Quakers. 
The above are also by Green, wliose familv 
were Quakers. He respected, but deserteo, 
•that creed. 

lo8-72. Pre-existence, a iM)em in imitation of 

It was published with a preface by J. B. 
in 1714, and reprinted in 1740 and 1800. 
Gray writes (' Letters,' i. 184) :— 

"Dr. Evans [Aliel Evans: h*.v 'D.N.B.'] w a 
furious madman ; and pre-exiHtcnce is nonsense in 
all her altitudes." 

172-80. Chiron to Achilles, a |»oem by Hildebrand 
.Jacob, l-^q.- * D.N.B.' 

This was first published in 1732, and was 
included in lus collected works (1736), 
pp. 133-44. 

180-5. Know your self, by the late Dr. Arbuthnot 

Pub. anon, in 1734, with an advertisement 
-.that it had been written several years 

before. This is the only manuscripfc * 
Arbuthnot in existence, and Mr. Aitken J 
his ' Life and Works of Arbuthnot,' pp. 49 
442, has printed it, " first as it was pmMuhai 
and secondly, as it was originally written.** 

186-99. London, a \yoem in imitation of the tUf 
satire of Juvenal. By Mr. Samuel Johnnn.- 

Writing to Horace Walpole, Gray mm 
(* Letters,' L 183) :— 

" I am sorry to differ from you, but * London' i 
to me one of those few imitations that ha\'e alltll 
ease and all the spirit of on original. Tho !■■ 
man's verses on the opening of Garrick s thaiM 
are far from bad.*' 


To the words "whom pensions can 
To vote a patriot black, a courtier wliiUi 
is the note by Walpole: **Thi8 w^ hm 
suited Johnson liimself latterly." H^ 
next page is Hervey's. 

200-2. Prologue sjioken by (jarriok, at the onanil 
of tho theatre in Drury Lane, 1747. By aaam 
Johnson. J 

203-13. Of active and retired life, an epistfe I 
H. C, Es«i. [Henrv Coventiy], By William MeliDal 
the Younger (' D.N.B.') ; hrst i»rinted in the ja 


214-19. Grongar Hill. By Mr. [John] Dy«r.' 

Dyer, says Gray (* Letters,' L 183). "hi 
more of poetry in his imagination tbl 
almost any of our number, but rough aa 

220-41. The ruins of Rome, a iioem. By the mM 

241-55. llie Hchofil - mistress, a iHsem in imil 

tion of SiHinser. By William Shenstone, ISmu" 

♦ D.N.B.' ^ 

" Excellent in its kind and master1y»1 
says Gray (* Letters,* L 183). Shenst^-" 
('Letters,'^ p. 174) complcM^ently 
under date of November, 1748, that he : 
borrowed "Dodsley's Miscellany of LaA 
Luxborough, in wliich are many good 

236-85. The art of pjlitics, in imitation of Honuw>' 
•Art of Poetry.' By the Reverend Mr. [Jaoei 
Bramston.-' D.N.B. '^ 

L. 1, "Sir James" is Thornhill, 8ll 
Robert is of course Sir Robert Walpolfl 
"New Bond Street and a newer square^' 
i.e. Cavendish Square. "Let Sir Pad 
resign," Methuen. " Gibber's opera fraa 
Jominy Gay's " : the opera is * Love in I 
Riddle,' the other piece 'Tlie Beggaill 
Opera.' " Th' arch-bishop and the Mastc 
of the Rolls," Wake and Sir Joseph JekvL 
Wyndham is Sir William Wyndham ; ** Lon 
William's dead and gone. Lord Willua 
Poulet. Bramstone*! poem oontains mail; 
pointed lines. 

10 8. VII. jav. r. 1907.1 NOTES AND QUERIES, 

I IVliftl *s not tie«Hoy'<l l»y 'I'lnju'* devwniiiK Imnd ? 
Wliert' "h 'Hiiy, «ti«i whWf'h the May ii^^le i»i thu 

are vcr>' familiar to us. 

:286-07. The rnan of tAsttr. Bythcsamt*. 
Sir Andrew is Sir Andrew Fount aine, 
**Thc di'inond count," says Walpole, was 
** a noted venturer, who was said to be going 
to marr>' tlie T)* of Buckingham, when he 
vras detected and decaraped. 

15W-3:!!. Atj fssAv oil coijvemitiun. By Bcnjttmin 

Thia 7«.^*«M, i^ addre«ised to William Wind- 
ham, ot :. n*'ar Cromer, Norfolk, to 
whom ^: ^ ; t iiad Ixx'n tutor, and with 
whom htj travelled altroad. More than 
once the author i^hows himself angr>' with 
Bentley in refusing him a fellowship at 
Trinity CoUeRC. ** B— y " ahould be filled 
up an Bentley. ** B-rm-n " ia Burman ; 
" Ba-I y *' ia Bailey. Dr. Doran says 
that Stillingfleet's poem helped the social 
reform of Dr. Johnson and Mrs. Montagu. 
It •* lay* down some X'ery excellent rules, 
that implicitly followed would make con- 
versation impossible." 

MLM-.t. (KJh uxn IfiHy o»i the death of Col. Clwrles 

KfMW Hi 

171.-). It 
.124. (>• 

• ti on n Miiitk Iwif, hy [(ieorgp 
^'Wll (',") when he 
i <> t|Uivji, I7^C 
in autuiTiti. 

ThiK and the thref next pieces are by 
>rd Chesterfield C D.N.B.'). 

kll. On a, Wiy*M drink iiii{ the B(itli WBtci^. 
i V«ryc«i writt*!. in ji C.ilx - 'Shurhx^k u 

Fanny in 1. 1 is l^dy Fanny Shirley. The 
Kev. II, 8, Cobbett *in lus ' Memorials of 
Twickenham,' 1872, p, 69, expresseti liis 
belief that the song was written by Mr. 
Thomas rhili|)e, a dramatic writer. An 
article by cieorge Agar Ellis, afterwards 
Lord l>ovt?r. on 'Chesterfield and Fanny,' 
is in ' Th.j K^^^paake * for 1831, pp. 1-15. 

An original poi«m by Lord Hervey, which 
M as print«*d in a few copies of the first edition 
of tiiia Mi'i<ellnny» but then suppressed aa 
to*) ner>v< •i.ii w V-.>r<^.lur-ed in The Oenile- 
man 4 -^ pt. i. 609. Cf. i6. 

P*- «♦ . ,■ I'tiijiary page, and 

p. 740. 

Tlif* pQf^m to the Harl of Warwick 
(p! 'hat on f "-^cy of Xereus 

il'l . the ioll. . I ems to p. Ho 

.TJT. V. 




< iioy. Writtt-u Mrv, 

« venr. By the name. 
By t he sHnit*. 

Ck UlrtJH 

inclusive, the prologue spoken by Ganick 
(pp. 200-2), and the poems from p. 321 
iucluaivo to the end of the volume, were 
not in the first vokmie of the first edition. 

The six ' Town Eclogues ' by Lady M. W. 
Montagu, * The Lover,* and the other poems 
to p. 116 inclusive, and the prologue spoken 
by Mr. Garrick (pp. 200-2) were hi the third 
volume of that edition. 

'The Art of Cookery,' by Dr. Ivin^, and 
the following poems by him (vol. i. first 
edition, pp. 223-C3), and *The Apparition,* 
by Dr. Evans (i6. pp. 238-68. the paging 
being repeated), were afterwards omitted. 
W. P. CornTXEY. 

'' FIRST-FOOTINa," ANNO DOM. 1907 t- 
The poem -written an entire centiuy ago 
by the Uon. William Robert Spencer (1770- 
1834), as an * Epitaph on the Year 1806/ 
needs no alteration beyond a sinjzlo word 
to fit it as an echo to the present date. For 
it begins and ends thus, with touching 
appropriateness : — 

Tis «tme, with it« tin i ns .ukI its rcMeiit 
With the fhi»<t»»f 1 f-imix! 

Time'H chanuelfor I ■ ■< 

The yf<ir (Ninejtei)i mhikiuhI rtiul Six. 

If thine wft« a iil<Mim ihf ' ' 

Thnt. dijjith's cijirkc»t < I llirow. 

Tliine. Itnj, wnn « KArhuul n,. -... ■ ic*t 
That life in lull hk>HiM«ni touki show. 

One hftnd crtvc the '■ '? rrrior 

Of ill« whioh thi lewwl— 

One diiiuiiijt from Til ui lU'cUU' 

All tA»tt! of lliy ))itUl rulHiius.1. 

Ti» Rone M'ith it^ thorns ami it«* »ti«es ! 

With ntiiie tvar* more |ir«H'ioHR iimy mix 
Tt» hallow this midnight which i|os4.«»i 

TIjc ye*ir [Nine|teen Hundivrl and Six. 

Thus did our earlier and better ** Bobby 
Spencer " jjrove himself a century ago to 
be a *' First- Footer," as thej^ would say in 
Scotland. For myself, an Englisliman bom, 
a Surre>' native, and of Lambeth, Gray's 
Walk Road, my '* first footing " in Scotland 
that I can reniember is of the date 1828 Of 
1829. Of this anon. 

It so happens that I can remember a long 
fieries of happy " First-Footings ** in the 
*' Land of CakeK," which I and ray f deer 
father before me (Joseph Ebsworth, 178^ 
1868) found to be brimming over with 
hospitahty and true-heartedness. as was 
worthy of the coimtry that gave birth to 
Robert Bums and to Walter Scott — meu 


\\ho deserve oiir love and gratitude for 
what they were in their own noble indi- 
viduality as well as for what thej' gave as as 
undjing legacies in literatiwe by their 
jfenius. Our reverence and admiration for 
them both is imdiinmed> and should remain 
so wliilat life can last. But life is flitting 
away fast, and while I am still able let me 
try to furnish to dear * X. & Q./ that 1 have 
loved from its earhest days, some records 
that I hold in authentic autographs and 
memories connected with, e.g., William 
HazUtt, Sir Henry Bishop, and others who 
have passed away into tlie silence. May a 
blessing rest at this New Year on all who 
love ' N, & Q: I 

The Priory, Anhfoi-d, Kent. 

[To be contiitufji.) 

I Wo truMt that our old friend Mu. Kiwworth will 
liftfdon the HlfoifttionH nijule in the iiitertBtinti oom- 
iiiuiiiryiliun Ik» lm.-< HtMit iw. His fur too kind worcia 
Ai>out all fonnet'ted with *N. & K},' are deeply 
aplii-eciutuKi, hiit wo ft^el that we must retain them 
for our own ]>iivate jiiTttsiil.] 

Cardinal Mezzofanti: Jereahah Cubtin. 
— According to the Central News of 15 De- 
cember, ilr. Jeremiah Cortin, who translated 
* Quo Vadis ? ' from the Polish^ has recently 
•died at Bristol, V' ermoat. He is said to have 
Icnown seventy languages. If tliLs l>e correct, 
he must have surpassed Cardinal Mezzofanti, 
who, according to ' The Encyclopfledia 
Britannica,' gpoko with comtiderable fluency 
some fifty or sixtj languages of the most 
widely separated families. Byron, it will be 
remembered, called him the Briareua of 
parts of speech, and a walking polyglot 
■who ought to have existed at tlie time of 
the Tower of Babel as universal interpreter. 
The Countess of BlesslngtoD^ who met 
Mezzofemti at Bologna, says ; — 

" Mexrofanti is said to be the master of no le«8 
than forty lansfiiaues. Wlien, however, we n^ferrwi 
to this rjidiject he disoluiMicil it, mul mf^Jestly .naid 
there was great ex«Kgerntion in the statement. 
But AS he hns never K'tt Italy and vet sih-'hUk Kng- 
liHh r.oiTeftIv, I nun iniii(;ij;itt his proliciency in ot!»er 

Mexxofanti, it will be observed, disclaimed 
a knowledge of forty languages ; if Mr. 
•Curtin knew seventy languages, Mezzo- 
fanti ceases to be a name sj'nonyraous with 
Briareus in a linguistic sen^^e. Wlien I 
viaited Bologna twenty years ago, I chanced, 
while passing the comer of the Via dell* 
•Orso, to see some workmen puJling down a 
house. It was the house iii which JNIezzo- 
/iojjti resided while Professor of Oriental 

Languages in that city. Throtigli the d' 
clouds 1 read the follo\dng inscription mu 
a medalhon, with a pro&le portrait of tlH 
learned cardinal : — 

Heic MezzofaiituM i»fttriu.* Htujior ortua «t urUi 
Vnxis (jiii lin^iuvii e{ilhiiton)ni|<;vna«. 

Vicentii Migntiiii I ' <^, 

It is curious to remember that m 

who seems to belong to the eighteeutu century, 
did not die until 1849. There i.s no mention 
of the inscription given abov© in any of tha 
Guide-Books that 1 have seen* 


EdghatTOW, Crowthome. 

Ktno Alfonso's Marbiage. — In th^ 
si)eech of our gracious Iving read m Pcirlia^ 
ment on 21 December, 1906, the date of th( 
marriage of the King and Queen of Sptai 
is ffiven as " last Jime." So aay the reportd 
published in the London newspapers, Thtf 
real date was, of course, 31 May. Kiitg; 
Alfonso is altogether a May King ; and may 
be long r$ucceed in making history a blessitlg 
to Spain and to England 1 

Edward S, Dodoson, 
Correspondiente de la Real Acadeiuiiv 
de la Historia. 

GuEv.oiA Inscriptions at Stkxioot x 
*' PoTiE " Warden. — A few montlis ago 
local newspapers chronicled the renioval 
from the old church at Stenigot, Liiicoln- 
shire (now closed), to a new church, of two 
alabaster monumental tablets, with kneeling 
figures, bearing the following inscriptions ; — 

"Heie lyeth ye bodie of Francis Viles De 
(JuevaraA. naturole Hjmnnyarde, borne in jr pro- 
vince of BisCAy, who hjul to his first wiff? iK'visc 
Reofle, dAutdit*.'r aofl hcyre to John Readc, ol 
Bcistijo, in ye eonnty of Lincoln. Es^juire. \>\ « harne 
he had i«^ue one daughter, KUene, and »ifter timmed 
Afinie KK«^rtoiv, daui^hter to John Kucert4tii, of 
WinouRhnv, in ye county aforesaid. KHiimre, by 
whonie he hud ihsue .>8oinies, viz., John, Perejirine, 
Henry, William, (ieorge, and 5 dauglitei-s, via., 
Arnie', Susan, Cathrine, Eliwilieth. and FratmoOy 
and (Ucil yc tenth of February loft2." 

"Here lyeth ye InKlie of Sir John <»re\ttr», 
Knighl, MOiuetiines the Potie Warden 'i\ tUr K.HHt 
Marnhe« of *-'r-l'""( muler the Right Hoiuiimihlo 
Peregi'iue. T .;hhy. Baron of Wilioujihby, 

Beak, and i -onne and Heitn^i ti> Frunci« 

<, EwiUirc, win* inarye*l Anne, diiuirhter of 
Rolwrt Samlerwui. of JSiixehy, in the cinintie of 
Lineoln V-<.<u,,-,' i.v v* 1. -.■.».• he had i^^^'- '' -■■iTiMjt, 
viz., I'l ' illiam.Th '.e*. 

and P L -rs. viz.. K uid 

Mary, find a«.i».'il'-<l li!l^ !ifo ye (J'"' Jun. , i>-t,. 

I have exactly copied these inscriptions 
as they appeared in print, and tJie vanation 
in spelling of the stuTiame wUl bt« noticed. 
I am curious, and shall be glad of inf omiation. 

to. .% 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

Potie Warden of the East Marches ' 
I** Potie "= petit, minor or assistant)!. 

some of your readers wUl be goocl 
||o afford it. W. B. H, 

Bekbow's Death.— The sub- 

te fiom * Shropshire Notes and 

SKrtwshurtj Chronicle, 29 Dec., 

Atimiral Bciihow. A Song.— 

I»iu< l»eei> Uiken «|.>\rn from the 

Vnp t.-- '' ' ' ' Hrtwkstone 

I (urio. Are 

. ry puhhiHhed 

•Ml »«otij^s'; Thiri vei>*iou tn traditional 

pily of .loufs, who have held tho ortiou of 

Hide for si.n't«rBl >;< ; i , The 

Jontjs,' wlieii »i >my. - song 

r, and thesu two Ir. i! oarry 

to the early imrt of the la^i century ; 

^ i\i'<* <jt}ier live* would oover tne 

he making of the son^. 

A'hnii-al B*iiI*oir. 

\ luime, 
ill hear. 

live Hciitjow he set mlA, 

For t" fiwlii for u, Hght; 

-lid turn tail 

in j» iicTu III a iii^ht. 
»y» Corvff%' utito \Vel»V»,* 


EtJi niy I iiemics 1 11 acit face, 
1 Nor tht'ji Kuim— nor tlicir jxutis.' 

lin-ahot — 

h. h4{ht> my iodH, i lieg. 
It'- V'HM h)t it's your lot I' 

1n*w my wounds 1' 
|-Und««»w <"ri»*<l ; 

[ die— nU lti»«.* 

»y moriiinv; su<in, 




U£hbi;bt cJoutham. 

-tTSfAXiTM."— Thie {a a word the 

which 1 opine may be worth 

aiocount of its peculiarity, and 

eoot mo vtny mucJi research to 

Wade?, They m'«iv shot on 
IJPlyiJiouth, mh Aiiril, JTUi' 


arrive at it. It -was effected when I waa 
almost au boiU de mon laiin., by a chanco 
effort, and tlie kind atd of the late erudite 
President of tho Royal Society of Anti- 
quaries of Ireland, Mr. John K. Garstin. 

" Firgunamim " is the valediction closing 
an * Account of St. Patrick's Purgator>' in 
Lough Derg, County Donegal, and of the 
Pilgrims* Business There,' which was pub- 
lished on 1 Aug., 1701, by the Ven. Arch- 
deacon Michael Hewetson (Armagh), and 
is the Irishism of Firgananaitn, a curious 
compound of Greek, Latin, and Irbii. It 
means '* A man without a name " (tnr, man ; 
flfon, without ; o, a : notm, name). It occurs 
in the Latin form *^ Inominatus " in media^-vsl 
inscriptions, doing duty as a Christian name, 
as, for example, in the Hacket one at 
Fethard, oo. Tipperary. 

One might almost feel inclined to tliink 
that it could equally signify " anonymus," 
but it is not so, as the author had special 
reasons for using his own word* appropriate 
to bis subject and the period when he wrote 
it. John Hewetson. 

Christ's Hospital at Hertfoed. — The 
great accuracy and value of ' Chambers's 
Encyclopaedia ' make it desirable to point 
out a mistake occurring under ' Christ's 
Hospital,' vol. ill. p. 224, col. I, where wo 
read : — 

" In 18<i"i the governors bailta ]»reparatt>ry school 
at Hertford, where the t-hildreii are trainp<i till 
they are advanced enough to be trivnaf erred to the 
London school.'* 

The true date of the erection of the Hertford 
school is 1683, so that the mistake seems to 
have arisen from one of the most fruitfnl 
sources of printers' errors — ^that of trans- 
position. W. T. Lvsw. 

" Chubchyard Cough."' — I can remember 
when a good deal used to be said about those 
troublea with a tkfp and hoEow sounding 
cough, a cough which people called " a 
ehitfchyard cough," or, as some put it, *' a 
grave-opener cough." Xow and then the 
term is to be heard, but far less frequently 
than was the carie fifty years ago. Many of 
the old bits of speech are dying out, and 
tills seems to be one of them. 

Thos. Ratoliffk, 

Long Public Service. — At the age of 
eighty-three Alderman John Banks, J. P., 
was on 9 November elected for tlie sixth 
time Mayor of his native town of FoVkoaUiwe, 
having held his seat it\ the CoT^ttk\jVOX\ coxwr 
tmuowily from 1 November, l^b" . 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [lo s. vil Ja>. s, mo;. 


lunMt re^iuest rorre>jj»«>TKU'ntM deainng in- 
„ nation on family mattci>i of only ^irivatc interest 
.JU&x their names anil aildreMses to their i|iieries, 
in order that armwers may be Meut to them direct. 

** Unconscionable time dying." — Can 
any one tell me vrhat is the original authority 
for the " unconscionable time tlying " story 
of Cbarlee II< ? Osmltsd Aibv. 

" Thitne " : " CEiL-DE-BCEur," Fkench 
Slang Words. — In Farmer and Henley's 
* Slang and it* Analoguesi.' eub voce 'Kliino,' 
thvut. or tune is given as a French slang name 
for money generally- Thia looks odd to 
me. lis I have always heard thune applied 
epecilically to the five-franc piece. Can any 
reader tell mo wliich is the correct sense ? 
Ib the origin of the tenn known ? Being 
argot, it 18 not in the ordinary dictionaries. 
Another French slang name for tliis coin is 
gml-dc bteuf^ corresponding exactly to the 
English term buira aye for a five - shilling 
piece, just as its Dutch slang name, dchier- 
wider ^ corresponds to our hind coach whecL 
I am collecting and comparing the popular 
names of coins in European languages. 

J AS. PuiTT, Jun- 

Thomas Cavkhley : Jkan Cavalier, — 
I am in po8$e'^!«ion of an oil painting super* 
scribeti Mr. Thomas Caverley, aged 100. 
J. BicJiardt^on pinxit." According to family 
tradiiionn, the said Thomas Caverley was a 
French Huguenot refugee, whose original 
name was CaveUer. and Ids death is re- 
corded to have occurred in Octolier, 1745, 
and the place of liis burial to have been 
St. James's Churcli, Garlick Hill, in a 
private vault of width no trace appears to 

Now J. Richardson, sen., died in May, 
174.%, according to Rees's ' Cyclopiedia/ in 
which }ii) is stated to have hud a paralytic 
stroke a short time before Preeumedly, 
theref<.re% the portrait was by \ua son, J. 
Richardijon^ joiu Can that question be 
decided ? 

Again, waa Thomas Caverley related to 
the well-known Jean Cavalier, a renowned 
leader uf the French Huguenots, who held 
the appointment of Governor of Guernsey 
under the British Government ? Of lmnt 
I am inf ormed, it is stated in a French bio- 
graphical dictionary that he was "no en 
W2\* . . . . et mourut ^ Chelsea em Mai, 
174H," t.« , at the age of 111 ! Ts there an 
English biographv of Jean Cavalier extant T 

G. W. W. 

iv., ma^ 

Gaslelshiel Castle. Haddinotonshibe, 
— Can any of your readers favour nie with 
information respectii\g the above castle I 
I can find nothing about it except in * Tbd 
Picture of Scotland/ by Robert Chambers, 
vol. i., 1827, and this ig legendary. I waxi^^ 
to ascertain facU concerning the place, i 
possible. William Gbhmblx. 

Sootstowii Hill, (ilasgow. 

George Stepney. (See 2 S. xi. 225.>- 
Tlie * Diet. Nat. Biog.* says of this diplomat : 

" HlxtenHive coUectiouH of his eorres|Kiiwleiire an 
i.rcser\ed in the Britiah Museum and m t\M- r, 
Ke^MirdOfliee. Another large and inim.i 
lection i» in the iKwsession uf thf Karl o» 
Hild (Hist. MSS. Coram, lat Hep. p. 

A bibliography of Stepney condndeB 
sketch in * D.N.B.,' liv. 191. 

It appears that the Hiat, MSS. Commissioii 
caused to be made, with the consent of thr" 
Earl of Macclesfield, copies of certain of th( 
latter's manuscripts, and that these «?om- 
were deposited in the PubUc Record Om< 
" among the semi-oflicial documents core*' 
monly called ' Trani^cripta.' '* A * Calend 
of the Papers of the Earl of Macclesfield 
w^as also commenced and continued (perhap 
completed) by the Hist. MSS. Corainissio: 
(cf. 2nd Report, p. ix). Can any reader eay 
if tins calendar or the original letters fror 
Stepney have been exandned with a view t 
the recovery therefrom of new biograplucal 
material concerning Dr. Edniond HalJey'fl 
two missions to Vienna (1702-3) ? 

Eugene Faibfield McPnns. 
1, Park Row, Chicago, U.S. 

Eleanok of Castile : her Tomb.— Misa 
Strickland speaks of the beautiful recambent 
efligy on Queen Eleanor's tomb in West* 
rninater Abbey as a likeness of the qtieeftv 
Dean Stanley in Ids * Memorials* aaeerta 
that it is not a portrait, but merely an ima- 
ginary type of beauty. Tlda seems very 
unlikel>, and one would much rather believq 
that the striking and beautiful figure re- 
sembled the " chere reinc." As a far-away 
descendant of the royal latly, I am deeply 
interested in the subject. Can any or 
enhghten mo ? Heloa. 

Rev. R. Rauthmel.— A topographic 
work entitled * Antiquitates Brcnietona- 
censes' was pubhshed in 1740 by tb ^' " 
R. Rauthmel, and deals with the ant 
of Overborough. The author end^... 
to show that a Roman road ran from Itib- 
chester to Overborough. 

In 1741 a certain Richartl Rauthmell hadL 
been for some fifteen years cmatc of Wliit 

u> s. VII. Jan. 5, 1907] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

wrell and of CJrindleton. He says, m a letter 
published in Whitaker's ' Craven,' the 
original of whicb is at present in my car© : — 
"My '2 L'hiijtels aro in thi? A!}** «»!' the ^Vest 
Kidint;. niui i haxe jut^t ikpw cvileulutt^-d it >' I 
|m\»' ml «M«.'i- l\ui Al])iiie iM»»antAiii»« t«> attejMl and 
liorformt' Divine Scn'iop '* '■r-"•'^]^^^^i\\ (.ITiajK.-! 
iilMiVti H.tNM ntileA i)Ut all ">• iikI the whole 

yi'urly Htii>endM putin one • niil not aIjovc 

iH) i»(>imcls." 

His weary rides over the alpine mountainB 
w ouJd give him time to think of the Roman 
road m tlie near neigJibourhood. 

Am I right in identif^-ing the author of 
the above-named volume with mj* equestrian 
predece«8or t Some of your contributorB 
may know more of the Rev. R. RauthmeK 
Fred. G. Ackerley. 
(Iridletoii Vioatuge, Clitheroe, l^nc^. 

• C\NTt-s HiBERvici/ — Some eifiht years 
»gc» I purchasetl for a couple of shillings a 
volume entitle*! *' Cantus Hibernici, Auctore 
Thonm Moore. Latine Hedditi. Editio Nova. 
A Niclioln ' Torre, Coll. Nov. apud 
Oxonian^i, '. I>earuington : Thomas 

ICuibb. Is. Ml, The volume, wliieh is dedi- 
oatr>d to tlie Marquess of Lansdowne, con- 
tains some II Latin rendering!* of Moore's 
^Irtj>h Melodies.' and has an apoendix of 
■e\'en other Latm versions of the 'Melodies,' 
culled ** by permission of the author," from 
the ' Antliologia Oxoniensis,' tlie ' Arimdines 
Cami.' and the ' Sabrinso Corolla ' ; t!ie 
initialiii appendix! Vo each translation being 
R. R. W. L., C. B., W. B. J., and B. H. K. 
Can any pos.see«or of the ' Arundines Cami " 
or the ' J<jibrinji» Corolla * tell me whom 
those initails represtmt ? Perhaps Mr. Pick- 
VORD can obligo me. I may add that the 
veraions are idiomatically* and literally 
correct. J. B. McGovekn, 

S\. Stfiiheii's Reotory, C.-ott-M.» Manchester 

*' Unbvchld. "^Twenty-seven years being 
a very long time in tlie history of etymological 
rewarch, I niay be excuaed for asking if 
anything further haa come to Ught with 
regard to the above word, since the publica- 
tion o£ Prof. Skeat's wiition of Cliaticer'a 
* Mao of Lava a Tale,' Ac, by the Clarendon 
Freee. I refer to the note«4 on " bicohed 
booea,*' * Pardonere'a Tale,' C. «5fi. " Un- 
bvchid " occurs in * The Townelev Plavs ' 
fE.E.T.S.). 29l-.15fl, and is there glossed 
**dkordcrly(?)." IL P. L. 

Henbv STKi'tTK-V IvEMBLK. — How many 
d^wmdantx «»f thiH actor, the nephew of 

IkTr • ■ ' ^„j (1^^, staine ? I know 

©: »«, who marrk<d Thoma.** 

Courier, an<i m^ame the mother of Mr. 

Frank Kemble Cooper and Mr. Cooper 
Clifite. But the late Miss Alice Bamett 
of the Savoy also claimed descent from this 
Kemble. Waa it through a daughter or a 
son ? J. M, BuixocH. 

lis. Pall Mall, 8. W. 

• London and Neighbocbhood/ 1760. — 
A pamphlet so named, and described aa an 
•^ Essay on Summer Entertainments in the 
Neighbourhood of London.* occurred in the 
Comerford sale, lot 2261. It is catalogued 
as " unique," but this presumably refers 
to the fact that the copy waaertra-illustrated. 
I have failed to trace another copy at the 
B.M. or in the catalogues of other topo- 
^aphical Hbraries. References or further 
information will be welcome. 

Aleck Abrahams. 

39, Hillmarton Road, N. 

♦Sea-Voyaoe op Aloysitts.'— a book 
with some such title is referred to in a 
German herbal published in 1546. Can 
any reader identify it t L. L. K- 

Romney's Ancestry.— George Romney, 
of Colby, Appleby {grandfather of the artist), 
left Colby in the Civil War, and went to 
Lancaster, and later to Dalton-in-Fumoaa, 
Ho waa sixty when he married, and the 
marrie^e cannot be found at Dalton, 
St. Lawrence's, Appleby, or Carlisle. Whera 
was he married ? and what was Ids father's 
name ? Had Mary Abbott, of KirklaikU 
Romney's wife, relations called Collinson and 
Betham ? Where is Kirkland ? Waa Ann 
Simpson, of Sladebank, Romnw*8 mother^ 
related to the Simpsons of Torrisholme, 
near Morecambe, and how ? Where ia 
Sladebank ? And was her grandfathcor, 
Thomas Park, of Millwood, near Fumew 
Abbey, High Constable of Fumeas 1642-7, 
related to Sir Jamea Parke, afterwards 
Lord Wensleydale ? 

I ahall be greatly obhged for any help. 

(Mrs.) L. Bennett. 
6. Arthur Street Ewt, E.C. 

IsuB oj- Mak and the Countess of 
Derby. — Will some reader inform me where 
I can find particulars of the surrender of 
the Isle of Man by the Countess of Derby 
to the Parliamentary forces in 1651 ? 

D. MuiutAT, 

Union Qub, Trafalgar Rquiirc, S.W. 

Doncaster: Image of thb Blessed 
Virgin.— It ia beUeved that in one of the 
religious houses at Doncaster there was in 
former days a statue of the Bleesed V'irgin, 
deemed to be miraculous, which at some 




NOTES AND QUERIES. [lo a vn. Jan. s. iw. 

period during the Reformation waa sent to 
London, and there burnt along -witli other 
objects of a like character. Can any one 
direct n\e to contemporary eN-idence for 
this Btateraent, and say in what part of 
London the fire took place ? 

K, P. D. E. 

Authors of Quotations Wanted. — 
<5ive my youth, my (ttith, my »word, 

Choice of tho heart'o <lo,iir« ! 
A short life in the saddle, Lord, 
Not long life by U»e fire. 

H. B. L. 

BoDDiNaTON Family. — In Burke's ' Landed 
Gentry * a pedigree of this family gives the 
descent fromTimothy Boddington, of Barton, 
CO. Oxford. He had a son, John Bodding- 
ton, and other insue. John's son Thomas 
had a son John besides other three sons and 
three daughters ; John, the son of Thoma«, 
alao had jvmior issue, the names of whom 
are not given by Burke. Can any of your 
readers give me information of the junior 
issne in the above cases, or of any of their 
deecendantfi ? 

There was a John Boddington at North 
Leigh, CO. Oxford, about the beginning of 
the nineteenth century. Tradition speaks 
of him in t)io$e parts as being contractor 
for the maintenance of the roadii. He was 
married twice. Any information regarding 
liis parentage, his marriagee, his birth, or liia 
death* will be gratefully received. 

Will o' Gloucester. 
Officers of State in Scotland. — These 
appear to be : — 

1. Secretary for Scotland and Keeper of 
the Great Seal. 

2. Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal. 

3. Lord Clerk Register. 

4. Lord Advocate. 

5. Lord Justice Clexk. 

Will Bome one conversant -with the matter 
please say how it happens that while the 
Lord Justice Clerk is one of the officers of 
State, tJje Lord Justice General is not ? 

J. Chbistie. 

181, Morningiriik R^iad, Edinburgh. 

JOHK Stivens, Sur^eon-in- Ordinary to 
the Prince of Wales, died 2 August, 1737. 
Can any reader give me information about 
liim ? W. A. Macnauohtok, M.D. 

Stonehaven, N.B. 

SooTT Illustrators. — AMiere can par- 
ticulars be found of the illustrations to Sir 
Walter Scott's works, such as the names of 
the artists, the number of illustrations by 
each, and the dates of the editions in which 
they first appeared ? E. X. G. 

(lOS. vi. 366, 470.) 

In reference to Mb. Albert Matthew8*8 
reply on the above subject, I am in a poaition 
to tiirow a Uttle light on the last paragraph 
in regard to women's anti-alaverj' socioties 
in England. 

The last claiLse of the British and ForeigU 
Anti-Slaver>^ Society's Constitution, drawn 
up in 1839,"runs : ** That the comniitte© do 
invite and encourage the formation of 
ladies* branch associations in furthereuace 
of the objects of this society." But the 
formation of such ladies' ass**' iationa -waa 
very far from being a new tJung in 1839. 
In connexion with the previous Anti-Slavery 
Society, which existed before the Act of 
1833, a verj' large number of wonien^s 
associations seems to have been formed. 
The volumes of the journal of that society. 
The Anli-Slavery Monthly Report^^r (wliich 
was begun in 1825 by Zaehar>' Maoaulay, 
and ably edited by him umtil hi^ death). 
are before me, and the first mention which 
I can find of a Women's Anti-Slavery Asso- 
ciation having been formed is of that 
started at Colchester in July, 1S25; a 
similar one waa formed at Calne (Wilts) 
in the following month. The .-subscription 
lists for 1826 show that the Chiton and 
Bristol Women's Association (to wliich 
Mr. Matthews refers) was in existence at 
that date. The lists of the following four 
years show that a great many women's 
associations were added, all over the country, 
during that time. 

At the World's Anti-Slavery Convention 
of 1840, as is well known. Mrs. Lucretia 
Mott and other ladies, who cam»* over as 
delegates from the United States, were 
excluded, after long discussion, from taking 
part in the conference, on account of their 
sex. It was, however, announced in tho 
Reporter published before that confereuca 
that the committee wished lo " afford 
accomodation, as far as the room will pormit, 
to their female friends, to who&€ aertCons 
the catiae e/ freedom is alrtad}/ so much 
indebted,'' and that tickets would be t<^ued 
adnuttinp ladies to the galleries-, and other 
spaces not necessarily occupied by meml>er8. 
Haydon's large picture of the C«.mvoQtion 
(now in the National Portrait Gallery) ahow.q 
that a number of women (moat of thorn in 
Quaker bonnets) actually sat in the body of 
the hall. It seems probable, although I am 


to find only a few actual references t-a 
tliat from that dat« women's branch 
oiations in connexion -with the Anti- 
*%V€ary Society were constantly formed, in 
ace with the provision above quoted 
, th<» constitution. 
fThere was soui© differetnce of opinion 
ong the Anti-Slavery leaders about women 
ing part »n getting up petitions against 
iJltVery, and we learn from the ' Life and 
l4ttei» of Zachaiy Alacaulay * that Wilber- 
fofoe wa« opposed to *' the interference of 
Udies" in tjuch matters, while Macaulay 
the other aide, and Brougham warmly 
' with liim. 
'To eum up, we may infer that women 
pve very valuable co-operation and help 
tight against slaver^^ but that the 
' aant feeling of the early Victorian 
opposed to tlieir taking a public 
eitation, Travers Buxton. 

, Foreinu Aiiti-SUivery Society, 

• », UmtMin House, Vnuxhidl Bridge Road, S.W. 

T. 08WA1.D : " Geschelbte Tuum " (10 I 
A88). — T should Bay Baedeker is right. | 
"* often means " round " in German. 
^18 a long article on gescheibl in tliis 
in Gritnm'* * Deutschos Worterbuch * 
jvoiiv., Mi'^l). .fVniong the oxaniple^ given 
■ the very one we want, viz., " Der ge- 
beibte oder Schabenthurni bei Bozen, 
en seiner runden Form eo genannt.*' 
I seenis pretty conclusive. 

J AS. Platt, Jun. 

■ " ' ^MB, OR Hood ? (lOS. \-i. 490.) 
^'>l api>ear to be any e\ndence 
— :., iS quoted by D. M. were found 
■ny other handwriting than that of 
Lamb : and in the absence of such 
ience thev may be pretty contidently 
ribtHl to the *' inatter of lie man," who 
„' of a well-known 
.1 a letter to Procter, 
rveU that ' lorgories and false 
I are not peculiar to the age following 
bf) verse* first appeared in Hone's 
Book' for 1827 (vol. ii. No. .iO) at 
id of a little article entitled ' Mrs. 
riding to Ethnonton,* wliich was 
«abeDial)ed by an engraving, *' probably 
^e poet's friend Aomney." the origin 
waa confidfd to the editor of ' The 
...L' • in ft letter found by Mr. Lucaa, 
•\-' manuscript copy of the 
it, ._ L._ Howfant Library* and recently 
piUblied in liia edition of Lamb's corre- 

" Deftr H.,— This i« Hood's, done from the lifo, 
of Miiiy k^'-tiiiit: ovorH style ht^re, Mary, out of a 
filefis^int foveiijfc, wants you to get it entpru/d in 
•THhle hknik' to xuri»ris« H., ^"ho I know wiU Iw 

aniUBed with yoti sti unintc If you <lo, Mt-iirl Ho«xl 

the imniher, Nu. 2, Roljert 8t.. Adelphi, and koop 
the sketch for nie." 

In the face of the above testimony* 
Lamb's subsequent unblusliing ascription 
to Romney of the engraving lends weight 
to the supposition that the assertion toat 
the lines were '* in the handwriting of 
Cowper " waa equally fictitious. 


Marqdisk de la Fayette (10 S. vi. 450). 
— Marie Louise Julie, wife of the 4th Marquis 
of La Fayette, waa the daughter of Joseph 
Yves Tliibault Hyacinthe (d© la Rividre), 
2nd Marquis of La Riviere, by liis kins- 
woman Julie Louise, elder daughter 
and coheir of Charles Yvf« Thibault (de 
la Riviere), 3rd Count of Raue, &c., G.C.S.L. 
Her mother died 7 Oct., 17o3, aged 32; and 
as her brothers were born in 1741 and 1751 
respectively, and she herself was married 
22 May, 1754* it is probable that she was 
born about 1738. La Ciienaye des Bois 
says of her (xiv. p. 642), "qui a ete pr6- 
sent6e 1e 28 F^vrier, 1762, par [her aunt] 
la Marquise de Luaignaii." When aJie died 
1 do not know, but your correspondent 
might ascertain by ^vriting to M. le Marquis 
de Lasteyrie, La Grange, Courpalay, Seine 
et Marne, who is descended from a daughter 
of the 5th ^larquis, and haa inlicrited th» 
La Fayette seat, La Grange. Ue under- 
stands English. RuviGNY. 


" MoxY a pickle maks a lacKLE *' (10 S. 
vi. 388, 456). — I imagine that " mickle " or 
•• meickle " is not pronounced "" mucUe.'* 

Does not " mickle '* or *' meickle '* usually 
indicate quantity, whOe *'muckle'* refers 
to size T I think the words are, strictly 
speaking, different, and in, at iea^t, parts of 
Scotland not used synonymously. 

Burns uses both words in Iilj works : 
** The rauckle devil blaw ye south," '* An* 
to the muckle house repair," " 'S a muckle 
pity." Then with respect to *' meickle," 
referring to quantity : " And shook baith 
meikle corn and beer," ** Mickle wad aye 
hae raair " (proverb). 

Alfred Chas. Jonas. 

Thornton Heath. 




'The Maghzkn " (10 S. vi 467).— Mb. 
Mayhew is quite right in takin(^ tlvva \a> Vt^ 
merely a variant of the Arabvc wotA.nvaklwflLTfv* 
pronounced approximaVeiVy \iks ovrc ^mtc^da 

NOTES AND QUERIES. no s. vii. jas. .% 1907. 

Moxoti. Hi8 definition '* the Treasury " 
is, however, scarcely adeguate» a» l>e«iae8 
the Treasxirer it appears to mclude the Grand 
V'izier, the Ministers of Honn^ and Foreign 
Affairs, Ac. 1 should say that " the 
Maghzen "* is to Morocco mucJi what " the 
Torte '* is to Turkey'. In English the best 
equivalent would be " the Government '" ; 
and just as we can speak of "the Govern- 
ment " with eitlier a singular or plural verb, 
so we can say either " the Maghzen is '* or 
*' the Maghzen are.'* In Moroccan Arabic, 
B& readers of Borrow will remember, a soldier 
or gendarme is called a makhaznit wliich is 
an adjective, meaning " govemmentah" 
There is a foot-note in Cimninghame Gra- 
ham's book • Mogreb-el-Acksa ' (1898, p. 82) 
which may be quoted in this connexion : — 

*'A tttU p*v»kod f ©it in Moroooo is the outHTird 
viniMe Kiini of a soldier or iimn of tlic MnhUwii 
ftiovernmt'nt, from the Arahic word Mahkscn. 
^ hicli iH ri<ti used in other Avab-ft]H.'akiiig otMitiiriiH 
ill the wjiHc of the Govern rnetit, hut simply an 
nidifying ti ' Store.* " 

Jas. PI.ATT, Jun. 

Authors of Quotations Wanted (10 S. 
vL 469). — The verses referring to " Mario's 
voice" occur in Owen Meredith's (Lord 
Lytton's) * The Wanderer,' second edition, 
1859, p. 141. I quote the second and third 
stanzas : — 

t>f >iU tlie Oi>eraa that Verdi wrote, 
The lM."^t Uf my tA«te is the * TrouvAtore'; 

And Mario can s*»the with a tenor note 
The souls in I'urgutory. 

Tlie moon on the tower sleiit soft as snow : 
And wlio wa» not thiilld in the Plr«nge»t wa> 

An he heard him ainu, while the gas burn'd low. 
'* Non ti fiCfjrdar da nie" ? 

Edwabd Peacock. 
Wickentree Houao, Kirtonin-Lindsey. 

The quotation beginning ** There is a 
sweetness in autumnal daj's '* is from Sir 
Lewia Morris's * The Ode of Age.' This 
forms the ninth division of the volume 
entitled * The Ode of Life,* which appeared 
in 1880, the poet at the time still xsTiting 
anonymously, and describing himself as 
*' Author of * The Epic of Hades.' " See 
also the collected and acknowledged * Works * 
of 1891. p. 310. Thomas Ba^tce. 

[Mr. J. B. Wai-skwrI' ht also refer** to Sir Ix'wis 

"Ito'": "Itolakd" (10 S. \'i. 4«1).— 
It is very desirable to controvert Mit. 
Bresi*ar'9 too > ' .-tic laudation of 
Mr, Zaogwill in j and his .sohemo in 

general, leat the Iuiuki student in r f i ^ 
to tliese pa^CK uhould gain a fake in 
^4il Uitdr relative importance. It tun^i^ i^e 

placed on record that the whole movement 
IS controlled, and solely supported by, the 
enthusiasts who would lie the last to r"- 
ticipate in the migration and colony-ff. 
ing, except for administrative purino* .,. 
It iias barely been recognized by, ana. cer- 
tainly has not received support from, the 
thousands in Russia who are most anxiotta 
to emigrate ; and except the attempt to 
establish a colony in Uganda, notliing haa 
been accomplislied. The founding of centres, 
enrolment of members, and holding of 
periodical meetings for discxission, in various 
parts of the Lnited Kingdom, are no 
measure of the success of the movement ; 
and there is no actual and active assistance. 
The whole movement is, in my opinion, 
wrong in conception, and at fault in its 
organization and atlniinistration. 

Aleck Abrahams. 
39. HJlhimrton Road, N. 

•• Forest of Oxtowk " (10 S. vi. 450). — 
This is Huckstow Forest, on the borders of 
L^pper Ueath, in the parish of Worth©n» 
partly in Montgomeiyshire and partly ii^ 
Shropshire. Chas. Hall Crouch. 

,"), (Ti-tivc Villivs, Wanstwui. 

BiBLiOTHECA Farmeriaxa (10 S. VI. 368). 
Pbof. MooiiE SmTH may like to know that 
in my copy of Dr. Farmer's catalogue (for- 
merly Dibdin's) the name of the purchaser 
of lots 7441 and •7441 is given as Harris, 
H. J. B. Clements. 

Killftdoon, Celbridge. 

CARLYI.E ON Religion (10 S. vi. 470). — 
The following occurs in * Latter-Day Para* 
phlets,' No. Vlll., the theme of which is 
Jesuitism ' :^ 

'"Simitle soidw still elnniour wcHiKiouttlly tor what 
they cml *ti new religion.' My frii!nd8, yo« will 
not >wt this new religion of yours; I ^wroeive you 
nlrendy have it, Imve ftlwny.*i hnd it! All that is 
//■«f i.x your Teliiidon '—in it imt?" 

With this compare the diaciwsion, xmdet 
the heading * Morrison Again,' of " Rituals^ 
Liturgies," <&c., in ' Past and Pi-eseat,* 
III. XV. Thomas Bayxk. 

MYr>Di:LTON Family (10 S. vi. 428). — 
Elizabeth and Anne Myddelton after their 
father Sir Hugh's death hved with tf oir 
mother at Bush Hill Park, Edmonton. 
Ehzabeth, who was baj>tiz«.'<l at St.Matthew's^ 
Friday Street, in October, 1608, married 
Wm. Grace, gent., of Edmonton. She 
made her will on -20 Oct., 164r>. which wa« 
proved on 6 Feb. following, by -v' ; s '■ho 
left her New River share to her i. 

Anne nei'cr married ; ahe was ba^*^ at 

I& Vll. Jan. .1, 1807.] 


,,,^ ),,,r.,ij aa hc^r sidter on 13 May. 
wherein she de-scrilies herself 
dated 23 Oct,. 163o. and 
1635/6. She left her New 
PHJ r sister Elizabeth, who pave 

■to her n<»plfjew John, younger son of tlieir 
)ther Sir William Myddelton. serond 

atiet. W. M. MVDDELTON. 

[in tho • Ni t*'s of the MiddJet^jn Family,* 
IrBtr, W. Diuioonibe Pink, it is stated that 
•betli Middleton was unmarried in 1643, 
Itilftt Anne died unmarried in 1635. 




*. 422).^In his moat interesting and useful 
■ ' on the above subject \V. C- B., in the 
Wi paragraph from the end, writes : *' In 
5'too Him Bayes*^. ..we find * He crya 
like king Harrjr in Shakeapear, My 
ience. My conscience ! ' *' and indicates 
•t tliis 13 to be found in * K. Hen. VIJL,' 
he following are the references to con- 

This r«#f 'ite khoitk 

The UiMitn ut my (.•OMscience. - U. ITS- SO. 
. Thus hulling in 

I The wild *«'» >1 tiiv i-onNcienc't', I tii<t -itcer 

Tiiward'i , -LI. hr; «A 

Intrant' iv eonscience, which 

Ithfii .li.J J'-. : i'.;ii siok.— LI. 301-2. 

of the above quotations seems to be 
'icable. T venture to suggest 
-"saae referred to is to be found 
liMri iij I,.. -'• NctU. ii. 143: — 
'-•, Consr-ienc^ ! 

Oj'tUttl , rn^< 


»ft : Ikcus : DoWTCiE : Barclay : 

f (10 S. vi. 3871.— T would stjggc-st that 

Cord write to Mrs. Sarcellet* .\ndr6, 

^Koa<I« Hor«.ham, for infonimtion re 

J Jolm Anrlrtv The late Mr. Lewis 

^F.S.A., a oorreepondont of ' N. & Q.,* 

ij., lft<»l, at Horsham. He was a 

son of John Lewis Andr6, uncle 

ortunate major. See a note of 

rtttrS. viii. 216. 

Cbas. Hax.!. Cuouch. 
l^iiftjvi* VJlltt.8, Wiin«t««*l. 

Cl-Okf:.- Viin-v ^VD DlCKKNS (10 S. vi. 

I George Eliot have been 

-.ris for the absurdity of 

• TTunabuil a remark ? Mrs. Malaprop is 

;d.?-4.-Tif. and «<unridonce of tnought 

from the Stone 

I iiteenth century 

"chastity" was iwcd to denote purity of 
style and the like, in cases where people* 
might now prefer " chasteness,'* and tlie 
habit lingered into the nineteenth. 

St. Swithin. 

St. Oeoboe's Chapet- Yard, Oxioriv 

Ro.VB (10 S. vi. 469). — This must surely be 
the old St. George's burial groiind in the 
Bayswater Road, near the Marble Arch. 

E. W. B. 

St. George's Cliapel Yard, «.c., the grave- 
yard of St. George's Hanover Square, is in^ 
the Bayswater Road, a little to the west of 
the Marble Arclu It contains the graves 
of several eminent persons. The mortuary 
chapel was recently beautifully restored and 
embellished at the expense of Mr. Russell-* 
Gumey. S. D. C. 

Oscar Wilde Bibliography (10 S. iv» 
266 ; V. 12, 133, 176, 238, 313. 35r) : vi. 296). 
— In my Bibliography in Mr. Sherard'a 
' Life of Oscar Wilde ' I expressed a doubt 
as to the genuineness of ' The Rise of His- 
torical Criticism.' 1 have, however, quite 
recently learned that the ori^nal manuscript 
of this work is in tlie possession of a collector 
in Philadelphia, and I have nn longer any 
dnubt as to the authenticity of thifi early- 
essay of Wilde's. Stuart Mason. 

Shelley House, Oxford. 

Richard Humphries, the Prizefighter 
(ID S. vi. 388).— An account of Richard 
Humphries (not Humphreys) is given in 
' Fugiliwtica : being One Hundred and 
Forty-Four Years of the History of British 
Boxing.* by Henrj' Downes Miles (London^ 
W^eldon & Co . no date : J bought my copy 
(new in 1 88 1 ), vol . i. p. 84 . He was popularly 
called *' The Gentleman Boxer." '* Hia 
manners were conciliatory, and he endea- 
voured through Ufe to enact the gentleman." 
He *' livfMi ifor many years after their 
[Humpliries and Daniel Mendoza's") last 
contest [29 September, 1790), and dietl in 
respectable circumstances, his calling being 
that of a coal-merchant in the Adelphi. 
Strand." The dates of (presmnably) Ids 
fighting time are 1784-90. 

A plate, " to face p. 73," represents the 
third fight between Mendoza and Humphries, 
referretl to above, which took place at Don- 
caster. In the title of tlie plate Humphries- 
is called George instead of Richard, an 
obvious error. Robert Piehpoint. 

Monkeys aTEAUNcj fro.m a Pedia:*. V\^- 
S. vi, 448). — In a mRnus»cn\A ol V\vb V>\vc- 
teenth century (MS. Hcm. \0 T£.. \N A «* ^^^ 




NOTES AND QUERIES, uo s. vii. j.n. 5, 1907. 

ATsller is represented as taking liis repose 
under a tree. In the out, which is repro- 
duced in Wright's ' Domeatic Manners and 
Sentiments of the Middle Ages,' 1862, p. 326, 
it is perhana intended to be understood that 
the traveller is passing the night in a wood* 
wiiile he is plundered by robbers, who are 
jokingly repreHented in the form of monkeys. 
While one is emptying his " male "' or box, 
'the other is carrying off his girdle, with the 
large pouch attached to it, in wliich, no 
(•doubt, says the author of that valuable work, 
'»the traveller carried his money, and perhaps 
ihia eatables (p. 327). 


Walton, Lancashire (10 S. vi, 450). — 
Walton-on-the-Hill ir a church of pre- 
Norman foundation, built near thu banks 
•of the Mersey, and ig the mother Church 
of the wliole of the Liverpool district. 

Walton-le-Dale Church is also of ancient 
.foundation. It stands on the banks of the 
IRibble, about two miles to the east of 

T see that in the * Dictionary of National 
Biograpliy ' tlie life is given of Thomas 
Warton. Professor of Poetry at Oxford 

In Lancashire there is a village of Warton 
seven mile;* north of Lancaster ; another 
>eight miles weat of Preston. 

Heney Taylor. 

BirkUiidR, *S«iiU»jK)rt. 

West Ivdiak Militabv Records (10 
WB. vi. 428, 476).— Mr, Stapleton has not 
Imistaken 11 (two) for 11 (eleven), as 3ur- 
l^niaed by Mr, Cookle. The Uth West 
iXndia Regiment wa« formed in or about 
11795, and disbanded in 1802, after the Peace 
Bof Amicruj. Prior to 1795 there were a num- 
ber of colonial corps of negroea ser\'ing in 
•the West Indies ; but although some of 
'these were in the poy of the Home Govern- 
ment, the officers' names did not appvear in 
tho ' Army List,' neither were their appoint- 
ments given in TU London Gazette. In 1795 
i>he mortality amongst the English troops 
then serving in the Antilles M-a? so great 
that the Uovernnient of the day decided 
^o replace them, as far aa possible, with 
.natives, who could better stand the climate, 
tind twelv:^ Weat India Regiments were 
formed from the semi-official black corps 
between 1795 and 1800. At the Peace of 
jAraienfi the 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th West 
^pdia Regiments were disbanded, leaving 
wght of these regiments, which served — 
some abroad— until after the general iK>ace ; 
^thoo, between 1815 and 1825, sLk more regi- 

ments (the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7tlu and 
WeeJt India Regiments) wer»> disband* 
A 3rd Regiment was again formed in 1840^ 
and a 4th and a 5th West India Regiiuent 
after the Russian War ; but they were 
subsequently disbanded, the 1st and 2nd 
Went India Regiments only remaining, and 
these form the 1st and 2nd Battalion.^ of 
the present West India Regimc-iit. The 
1st Battalion was originally the Carolina 
Black Corps ; subsequently ^lalcolin's 
Black Rangers, from Lieut. ISIalcolni, of tho 
41st Regiment, who picked and traiiied the 
men from the old black corps in 1795, and 
on 2 May in that year they were drafted 
into Major-Greneral Whyte's Reguncnt of 
Foot, the 1st West Indja Regiment. Tho 
2nd Battalion was originally one of the 
corps of negroes paid by the Imperial Govern- 
ment, and was known as the St. Vincent's 
Black Rangers. In 1797 it l>ecame the 2nd 
West India Regiment, Brigadier-Cleacral 
Myers being its colonel. 

I am indebted for most of the^e factj^ to 
the excellent summary of the history of the 
West India Regiment appearing in the 
* Rccord.s and Badges of the Britisli .Army/ 
by Mr. H. M. Chichester, and Major Burgee- 
Short, published by Clowes in 1895. Major 
Ellis wrote ' A History of the Finst Wext 
India Regiment," which was published in 
1 885 by Chapman & Hall, and i> repeatedly 
referred to in ' Records and Badges.' 

G. Yarrow Baldock, Major. 

" Quapladde " (10 S. vi. 429).— Does tho 
phrase in wliich the word occurs allow it to 
be read as a place-name ? If so. it raean.s 
Whaplode, in Lincolnshire. The Domesday 
spelUng is Quappelode (see ' Murray's Hand- 
book for Lincolnsliire,' 1890, p. 129), but 
the orthography varied during the Middle 
Ages. When the modern form succeeded 
in ousting other variants seems uncertain- 

M. P. 

Mb. Williams does not mention where ho 
has seen this word. It occur:^ in the form 
of Whiplode, Lincolaahire, and i^ spelt 
Cappolade in the well-known charter of 
Peterborough. I have hitherto failed to 
find any analogous word or name. 

Edward Smitb. 

The context in which tliTS word appenrs 
is not quoted. If it be a 
probably one of the many - 
lode, in Lincolnshire. Alfred WLuav. 

" Poor Doo Tray " : * Old Do '^" - v 
(10 S. vL 470, 494).— I learned s 
years ago the song ' Old Dog Tray. >. . ;. ... 

I S. Vn. Jas. 3. 1807.] 


Hjcms supplies the chorus. The song 
( very popular with tlie street boy of the 
«od tlie chorus was the subject of 
iy. t give the first and» 1 think. 

Thv iiitirti •>! life is (Nist, 

-it la*t '. 

NlM,lV.._ .A:... ::,.;, .,_.: ^'.j^ Tr»y. 

Chorixs — Old Dog Tray '« ever faithful, Ike, 
Tlw f. .tr„v I - it lied my own 
Hftv ' I -tne hv Olio ; 

TKf I tlir ifettr tines, 

Hnve .ill , IV. 

llieir hnp » re flow n, 

Their i^ei It. A'>ne; 

1 'vTs nothing lett but old Dog Tray. 

Cliorufl— Old Dog Tray 'h ever fnitlihil, &c. 

A. W. 

Makoh 25 AS Xkw Ybab*s Day (10 S. 
vL 368. 431, 471).— Not withstanding the 

ring words of 24 Geo. II., c. 23, " Whereag 
legal supputation of the year of onir 
Lord in . . . .England, according to which 
<iM» vear beginneth on the 25th day of 
Xaixuv," I tliink it may be ditfictilt to adduce 
authority for the rfuiking of that day 
I month the l>efanmng of the legal year. 
(2 'Inst.,' fol 675) says: "The day 
5 moneth, year of our Lord, and year 
? king's reign, are the usual dates of 
_." In gome * Reports of Cases' for 
,1ba firgt three years of Charles I. there is a 
to " JoluiBon's Caao " : '* Doderidge 
* Quo en volunte le eccle«iaatical ley 
Otice aolement del Anno Doni. lues 
ley del Anno Regis.' " Both 
and Evelyn, in their rf'spocti\'e 
— , coibitantly allude to I January as 
"•w Year's Day. All the above italics are 
""io*. Mistletoe. 

^tsoNE DE Chancel (10 S. vi. ir>6, 2 Hi, 
335). — At the lost reference Mr. 
Itkam was somewhat sceptical as to ttie 
"" nco of a letter from L6ou de Monte- 
ken, which 1 Raid at p. 234 had been 
. in The LiUrart/ World. That paper 
[1 to apprar weekly, but itis nowa monthly, 
' the number for Drv»en^hep lies l>efore me, 
jiapers, among 
I A copy of the 
tt P'>* ' to the Editor 

Lit€r loa, with great 

r r:\ascript of 

;tL^..^,.L. iii.^.,. 

.slight omissions in the number for'S^June. 
1904, imder the editorial title of *The|Real 
Thing ' J propose to give the very words 
of tlie letter, because Mr. Latham said, " I 
should — and so would other readers of 
* N. &r Q.* — like to read it." I hope our 
Editor win permit me to gratify such & 
laudable curiosity : — 

Villa Leona, Sevilla, May 27, 1904. 
To tlie Editoi- of Th^ LUr.rartf World. 
I>EAR Sir, — When in your numlwr of tha 
13th jTiMt. you ttttributed a iwK*m ot mine to Alfrwl 
de Mnaflet, I had no reason to complain, hut, when 
in tho following nuialjer, dated May *3)th, yoa 
allow others to jjuhlish, as my |>oem. a jdece which, 
although, at tirst >siij;ht, only slightly different, in 
my oiiinion is quite another tln'nfi, 1 tiiust ^tate that 
my verses were written an follow'^, and only thus i— 

Prit tk Chont ft« Prc^quA Trap. 
La vie est vaine : 
Un T»eu d'amoiir, 
Un t>eu du haine— r 
Et puia— bonjour 1 

La vie est br^ve : 
Un pen d'es^ioir, 
Un ]ieu do rvve — 
Et i»uiM— Ixinsoirl 

La vie est telle 
Que Dieu la fit ; 
Kt, telle iiuelle, 
My own English tranHlatiou of «Mvme roods thus) 
Nmtijht and Too Mtich, 
(To Mrs. Mary F. Johnston.) 
Life is but j»lay : 
A throb, a t^Mir; 
A rtoh. a aneer — 
Ajid then— gofjd day ! 

Life isbut jost: 
A dream, a doom : 
A gleam, a gloom — 
And then— yootl rest 1 

Life is hut sueh 
A« wrought < Hxl's will ; 
'Tin nought, and still 
'Tis oft— t<x> nnich ! 
Ah to Dyer's oimtrain in Mlrongar Hill,' a closer 
curious reseuibkiice to it, thati my ]Hx:m, may, 
]t«rhai>^, lie remarked in the following liuea of 

A little aUmu a little ale, 
.■\ aiindwich— Hoiiietimes ntale — 
I« all the eritie, ikoor siinier, 
iietH betwet'n hreakfa«t ami dinner. 
I am, dear Sir, yours truly, 

Leon de Mo\tex.\eki;n*, 

I have noiw given the author's own text of 
the hues w th liis EngUsh translation, which 
I had completely forgotten. Whether they 
may be called poetry, either in Fretvclv c»^ 
English, is a matter for eac\\ otktf a \MCi^viv^^\»\ 
but I am convinced t\\ai l\\ev \\ave> ^ic^X. 


Iftter date i i 

**it/i some j spavk o( the jwotvc Ere tbat Vyvww^ vu cnv 


NOTES AND QUERIES. tio s. vu. .ux. :,. iwr. 

word of the foUowing pHS>.ago, wliich treats 
of tho Mftine ^-ubject : — 

^S^"' ' iilcr ! Life IS lint a fiay: 

A I injii oil vt*> i»orilniis wny 

Fr< I ^wmmit ; a jkkjJ' Indian's 8lt>f]> 

VN'hiic lm« Ijuttt liOiftenH to tlie monstrous («teott 

i )t Monlinorenci. Why so md i\ mosin T 

Lit"; in th«- itjse'n hojte while yet luiMown, 

The n'4uliiij.' of an evcr-chanffinc: ttiUf ; 

TUv hi:hi uiilifriiiK 6t a nmirten k vtil : 

-A t)iK«on tumblinu in clt^ar sunitiier arr : 

A IttiighiiiR 8r-hfH>ll)oy without grief or care, 

Hiihri^ the Mininj^v hranch«it of an I'lriK 

John T. Cctery. 

^ KviciHTHOOD OF 1603(108. \i. 181,257, 
47-1). — At the last reference "■ the descend- 
ants of tlie knight of 1603" aic alluded to 
as ii existing, wluch apparentlj- is not the 
Lcaee. The only recorded offspring of the 
^ Aid Sir Gennan Pole (d. 1C34) was a son and 
successor, Gemian Pole, Esq., who married, 
17 Dt*c., 1650, Anne Newdigate^ as stated, 
but, 1083, having settled hb estates 
upon his "'ouBin and heir male Sanmel Pole. 
Ksq>, fnnii whom dencends the jjresent family 
of C'harnlos-Pole of Kadboiirne. Burkp's I 

* Landed « Jcntry ' filiows this, and that the 
Baid 8aniuel Pole (d. 1731) had a daughter 
Millicont, who married, 1 May, 1711, Francis 
KewdigattJ. * j 

Mil Stapleton, perhaps following the ' 
ac9oiint of Newdigate of Arbmy in Burke's ; 

* L. G.,' speaks of ** Millicent, "daughter of 
German Pole, Esq., of Kadbourne, eo. 
Derby,*' which contradiction is doubtless 
an erriir. Francis Newdigate. son of the 
alor»;>aki Francis and Millicent, marrieii 
his tirst cousin Elizabeth, daughter of Lieut.- 
General Edward Pole (tliird son of the 
aforesaid Samuel), and d.a.p. : liis wife 
was not '* daughter of German Pole, Esq.," 
as stated by ]\1JR. Stapleton. 

Though the aforesaid Samuel Pole liad a 
«on and successor German Pole (d. 17(35), 
vrho had an only eon German, wliu </.«•./>. 
unmarried, 1763, and two daughters, Amie 
and Mary, neither married a Newdigate. 

Gemian Pole (d. 1765), of Radbourne, 
Esq.. was succeeded by his nephew. Col. 
Edward Sacheverell Pole, brother to Elka- 
beth, who ha<l married the younger (afore- 
said) Francis Newdigate. 

R. E. E. Chambers. 

Pill House*. Bifthojis Tswton, B«inist4ii»le. 

Dole Ctpboabds (10 S. vi. 429). — ^The 
modian'al cupboard was literally a eiip- 
\ board — that, in fact, wliich we understand 
to-day by a '* sideboard." Sometin^es it 
)c^ douTi outwardly from a recess in the wall. 
CH tl\i3 3ort of cupboard there is said to be 

an example in the cells of the Cartht 
at Florence, where a door, when oj 
allows it to fall down outside the rece 
and form a table. (8ee 'The Diet. 
Arcliit.,' \'ol. ii. p. 174; and Parker'i 
• Glossary of Terms.* 1850, p. 150.) 

The dole cupboard was probably morej 
especially an appurtenance of tlie nvonastery, 
wiice the dole (pciin d'aumosnt) iu seoulc 
life was generally confined to the fune 
of the rich, who would not consequent 
need a cupboard in constant use. 
Lambeth thu-ty poor persons ^sere relieve 
by an alms called the Dole, which was given 
three times a week, to ten persons at a> 
time, alternately — each person then receiv- 
ing upwards of two jwunds of beef, a pitcher 
of broth, a half-quartern loaf, and twop 
Besides tliis dole, there were always, on 
days it was given, at least tliirty othe 
pitchers, called '* Bj'-iDitchers," brought 
other neigliboimng poor, who partook of 
the remaining brotli, and the broken victaala 
at that time distributed. And so late at 
least as 17(i7 at Queen's College, Oxford, 
provisions were frequently distributed to 
tlie poor, at the door of the hall, under the 
denomination of a ** dole." (See 'Anglo- 
Norman Antiquities considered in a Tour 
through Part- of Normandy,' by Dr. Ducarel 
(T1767), p. 81- 

At the Benedictine abbe}' of Fecamp tho^ 
monks were obliged, by the rules of the 
house, to give daily a large quantity of bread, 
and meat to everj* ])oor person who applied 
for it, except between the first day of August 
and the first day of SejJtember, when the 
poor were supposed to be employed in the 

The funeral dole of the secular rich 
known as the ** dead dole," and was neces- 
sarily of only occasional distribution, a 
circumstance arguing, but only presumably, , 
that dtile cupboards were indispensable only' 
whore charity was administered in a fr 
quent and rcgijlar way. TJiey would thoal 
afford acconunotlation for provisions such!! 
as bread, Ac, additional to that of tl jo but ten.'. 
Dole beer, however, to judge from a passage 
in Ben Jonson's 'Alchemist' (I. i.), was 
kept in the buttery : — 

I know you were one could ket-jt 
Tht* hutt'ry hutoh "urill lorkM, and twive the cJiip- 

IiingH. ' 
Sell the ddo beer to Atiua'vitai moa. 


I have no knowledge on the subject, but 
imagine that dole cuj-l 1 would be cup* 
boardi+ fixed up in ^ to holil the 

bread loaves that wet-- uir^iiilmted as doles 

IL J4N. .1, 1907.) NOTES AND QUERIES. 

'"-ice. I rather think that I 
a cupboard in use. but 1 

I DuHoin. 

iUer where. 

J. T. F. 

Dole cupboards were used for keeping 
rjtv loaves. Two may bo sec^n in 
. Albany Abbey, A. S. Le\ti8. 

L)>»r»ry, 0»n»titutional CloU. 

Sasta. Ft : Americax PLACK-NASmS 
lOS. vi. 310. 353, 394, 452).— Faneiiil Hall 
Ronton ia not pronounced "" Funnel," 
sUte<i by Mh, Platt at tlie second refer- 
except by a small and deereasinfr 
inant of tho old families (Wendell 
tillipK used to roll it on Iiis tongue witli 
unction), and by those who adopt their 
'""■ka of tenacious special locutions for 
or [xnraonal reaaooj?. It never had 
in the Faneiiil family's own usage, 
know of, and '' Fau-u-il " is now 
universal. " Arkanaaw " ia the legal 
niociation, by enew?ttuent uf the Arkansas 
JSre — the r of course silent in Southern 
^mge, And the sounds thiu* quite accurately 
npresentin^ the original and correct name 
oi the " Akanjia " tribe. " Arkansas '^ ia 
■erely ridiculous, widely as it ia u^ed, being 
pronunciation of French letters in English 
lion, to give sounds they were never in- 
rled lor. In French they made 
hkanaaw/* a8 they should. Tlie English 
ia exactly like the comic |.irouuncia- 
of " Esquimaux '' a« " Eskwimawks " ; 
the ftbsm-d ' Century Dictionary * j»ro- 
dictation of tlio Vancouver's. Island dry- 
station. Esquimalt. a8 " E^wimault.'^ 
o£ the local ** :5quimo " — it being. 
the same word aw " Esquimaux," 
in Englbli as " E-skimo.'* 
ifh of course* usetl ou to ro present 
<ame ?ic>und as our ir. and ch for nur -<*/k 
general 'li- i^ijliwh form h»v« bt>en mib- 
ted ill , a** Waljtwh (** Waw- 

for ' w ; hut siometijnew they 

. rably side by Mide, as in Ouachita 

Ta/ghita. Even hero the Enghsh form 

grntimi. The niuileading of tlic 

tongue by the ch is shown in tliu 

uae of '* Mitcliigan " instead of 

_^ •• for Michigan. Some thirteen 

•go a ^TJter in The Saturday Re*rieto 

' St tho American* an a j>eople *' who 

the name ol their great t-ity 

fil*<«ii<^ ' *" : 1 have never been able 

t* pHBi what the writer would Itavc us say 

ptlliM[M ** Tc)uc-a-go," sometimes heard 

dn ibst nde uf the water. Of course She- 

e«b§0 or ShM^^wg* » Ia correct. The difference 

one between good and bad usage, either 
way, the good being often evenly divided. 

Incidentally. I was once severely taken 
to task by an Englishman for saving " Con- 
netticut." My trivial excuse that it was 
correct, and there never hati been any other 
pronunciation, was not admitte<l : he in- 
sisted that it slundfl he '' ronneftieut," as 
spelled. I might have cited liotherhithe 
oud Cirencester, b\it a tn qiioqin L- uaeltsti. 
The truth i^, our forefathers had two things 
to do with the mipronoimceabk* Indian 
guttural in *' Quonnaghtekut " ; to write 
it and to pronounce it. Like sensible and 
illogical Englijihnuen, they did not allow 
one to interfere with the other. For the 
written form, tliey used tlie liandiest avail- 
able guttural ; in pronunciation they dropped 
it altogether. But the former tomes no 
nearer to the original somid than tlie latter. 
No single rule" can be formulated for the 
acceptance of local pronunciations* as final 
authorities ; they may represent a cidtivated 
chi:>ie.e which hnally determine?, usage, or 
mere ijLrnorant. slovenly (corrupt ions which 
carry no weight — though in the latter case 
the inhabitants of coui4e take all the more 
pride in thetn as part of their superior local 
knowledge, and scorn tiio " tenderfeet " 
proportionately' for using more accurate 
uncH. Of this; nort are a gi-eat number of , tho 
local pronunciationji of Spanish nam**** in 
the South West, many of which arf of tho 
same "stripe" sm "Iky on |mrl. Whether 
tJie current *' Loss AnghclertH " will win out 
ctinnot, perhaps, yet be told ; but ** Naki- 
tosh " for Natcliitoches has done wo. More 
eastwardly. "Terry Hut " for Turre Haute* 
" Skimiy Atlas " for Skaneateles, and the 
not unheard " Porchmouth " for Ports- 
moutli, are of course only vulgarisms. 
" < ;ios-os-ter '* and " Wors-es-ter," though 
sniuiitune« u.%fMl by anxiously pedantic 
people who fall into the .slough on the other 
side (the former actually sanctioned bv a 
Boston city council and emborhVd in tho 
name of a street), are not common nor 
spreading. (The curious form " Glockster '* 
has been heard — apparently an effort to 
pronoimce from the spelling, in conviction 
that the clipped " Gloster " must be wrong.) 
But " 'wicli ' is n^Uch almost univ^ersally ; 
nor can 1 see why this restoration of his- 
torical form, through following the spelling, 
is not a good tiling. It is curious that t*o 
niaiiy of tnose who object to the " reforraetl * 
spelling OH obliterating etymology should 
at the game time be full ol eftOTU Iot ''' ^viv- 
wdtcli '• and '* Green-wtcW" Vn. ^\w;« oV 


ah and nw in th. ^^ names « not / *' Xorndge '* and *' C\ntvidgc»^^ vi\Lvrc^ 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. jas. 5, mr. 

English localism obliterat^B the etymology, 
and the American localism restores it. It 
would eteem to indicate tliat the objection 
is really to sennet hinc new rather than some- 
thing bad, I say this the more cheerfully 
as not a champion of the spelling movement, 
FouREST Morgan. 
Horlfoi'd, Conn. 


S. vi 209, 374, 472). — In answer to Genea- 
rooisT I beg to say 1 have referred to ray 
reply at p. 374, and at once i^aw tlie blunder 
which lias occasioned liia query. I fear 
I \vTote hurriedly at the moment, and 
apologue, Tlie context should of courae 
run as follows : '* The lady on remarriage 
should drop her first husband's name and 
title, and accept her second husband's 
position." To attempt to retain the first 
husband's courtesy title of " Honourable " 
with her second husband's smiiame added 
is tlie absurd innovation that I wish to 
inveichl against. I know, however, of two 
cases in wliieh it has been done— one of 
which I alluded to in my previous reply. 
With peeresses and *' dames " it is a different 
niatter, but it is to courtesy titles that I 
particularly refeiTed. Cboss-Cbosslet. 



yji, ' W'orh-i of Hichaifl Briiudcy Shfiridau, 

V\ vixlvuition liv Jofie|ih Knight and 15 

111 ; I . (Frowde.) 

It is i>lt»i'Mint to welcome in ai> Oxford edition the 
dmriiiiti'^ ^rork? of Shtridrtn. The ffjiL-cial ftsatnr© 
in «' ' ' ■ ivvuient reprint 

coll- ■ art nnJiierou.H 

and '■:-■'■ -. -V . I' . ii tine ijorti^ait 

fn>ni ft orayon drawitig liy .J una Kiimsell, a second 
from Sir rTrwhnn of Mm. .*sheridftn fu* St. t?.HHli»i, 

BrcmTi n«< LiJid l''omjU»g;t<tn , Mn>. SiUdunis hh Klviiii, 
nnd K«Mnl>le ai* Rollo. Fftcisiniilieii of Sbtridan'fi 
\ I one nf it pbiybil! nnnonncing; the lourth 

f iA 'The School for Scmidal.' with 
Cdtli, SoarlHiruUji;h, nud Sevillf, «dd to the 
Mttra- U'tus ot a reiulfthle vnjuinc, which is further 
ciirichc<l by si.mif vnluiihU* notes and a table of 
the innncijial tlatos in thf life of tlie dramatist. 

T^OfF* Pfrm^fr, liaroiificf/, and Kmaktoffe of Ottnt 
r„ ' hrfnutl for irfV. (Wliittaker k Co,) 

yni |.urj»o»cM of reftrcnco iKid's work, 

vitii ., ,, liiirably condfiised and woll-arr»nn!«*<i 
conttrnlH, Its shape at onoe handKonio and con- 
v«nif*rtU and it«^ l*-»fiv' - strtndjnjf anthority — th^ 

V^ ' ' '■' ' ' '" ■ '''"''''^ ' 

lifts li 

Ijervi-^.- -• 

to tho sons aiid duvightt'rs of j»eerf< b'-arin.r r^urteejr 
titles. Aa a i^uide. indeed, to tin Mjeacu 

to-day it dihtanccB in simplicity as.'. , ol nae 

all comi»etitor(N 

The Clrryii Directory awl Parish Oniih, fJ, 8. 

This best and rocwt trustworthy guide to the clergy 
rt^ach<^t« rUi thirty-nevcnth annaal isHue, and com* 
priJ^es the chanwe-s in diocese effected by the re«:^ent 
Act of Parlianjent for the foundation of the new 
sees of Southwark and BirminKham. AU the 
customary fyature* arc preserved, includini^ an 
allihabotical list of the clergy', i*nth date*, quahficA,. 
tion, order, and upiitiintnient ; a list of ]iarishes and 
Hanx-hiaj district*, giving di(xte**, THipnlation, 4c. : 
the diocesan and cathwlral eHtttbhshments. the 
dignitaries of the Irish, Scottish, and colonial 
phvirche** ; and a list of societies, charitable, educa- 
tional, and missionary, connected with the KstAb- 
IJHhed Church. 

Thr Literary Vear-fiook and Bookman' * Dirrctorn^. 

JitfT. (Routledgo & Sons.) 
The eleventh annual vohjmo of thin uscftjl and 
ha]Jitily named work ajipoarH with tlie l>ej|rinninjr of 
thenewycAr. In the variety of the 8^i^ fh 

which it deal-s it differs from and auii t 

kindred yjublicntions. It ii* now for th>- i se 

the organ for the itublication of the returnii fur the 
public libraries, the work of which it undertakes 
with the HHsiHtance of the Council of the Libiary 
Apsociation. In place of the 'Index to Current 
Literature' which waw a feature in the two pre- 
WouM issues is jriven a full bibliography of tJeorgo 
Meredith, whicn constitutes a aexiarate and ooii« 
oluding portion. 

An Ahnauack- for the Year W(f?. By JoseDb 

WhiUker, F.S.A. (Whitaker A Sons.) 
Amom; the l>ook»of reference which are g«ien»lly 
ifadiest to the hand and most fretpient'- r-" -f- 
muneratively consultetl, ' Whitaker's . ' 

iioldn, by universal consent, a con8i»icuoir i. 

Of it may almoHt be naid, aw of the trreat nun ei-sity 
don, that its foible is omniscience, ami tliat, inclun- 
inj; the Snpitlement, it telLs all coneerniny thi» and 
loreiittn covuitries that the oi-dinary man Heeks ta 
know. Among noveltieH introduced into the 
preKcnt is-sue are treatises on army refcD " ,. 

gnm^li in Lf>nrlon of travellinn fanlit.. 

with an epitoniixe<l account of theBriti.i. ...jy 


Whilakf^x^n Pterattty Bat'onetOfft, Knigh/ai/f and 
CoinjjaniotMjjK /or the Year ifW. (Wh it alter Jt 

Sons. ) 
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wortjiy. The arraiit^ement, whicli i ; i,..i,^.uui,^ 

fftcilitale» reference. 

"Thk Mt'SEs' Libhahy" of Mensr*. T'miH.^i^ 
has he«?ii cniichwl with 7'/u Po*'vi>^ of Tl 
f*rcu-(*ck\ editeil by Biiinley .lohnflon. 
foinjilete form nn- bitm^jht tou ' i 

patliottnally intnidnoinl irj thin lii' i 

si/*, ]>noe. nod jiictures of which nc 
portion with it* worth. To the name ■ 

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^iiTii ; i^ TT »t I Th,- T^iifA of Snturdfty last 

' death on 'I! l>e- 

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! alxjiit 

iLi. . ■ I ilaitor 

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IIuiIm a. H., as may ]>e seen on reference to the 

' lij»t« of ht« artioleo in th»i General Lidex to 

Ninth Schcsa. 


Boors txuiBM* Ca»aix>gcks. 

Utiutlw^gin our rambles nnioiig the old book 

lithovil wishing <jur friends a |>nwi(fron>* 

The 1 >a«t year hrts not t>e«?n a had one, 

I th« revival of trade we may look for yet 

_alt^. We are glftd to know frtun a friend 

I ex|»«frience that early printed IvookR and 

^'on^ of ifreat writem continue to keoji u]t 

"fhe ert.rly books of Teniiyson are ex- 

'», hut those later than |The Prineew?' 

'■'} iTi Kueh lai"ge editiontf thatthev 

t ' scarce, ^\'e should nuit)> 

'M.I of Macaulay'-'* * Kn^'laud' 

,.._ _, i, .w.d hoi*e they will appreciate 

H. Bltt«'kw«f«ll, of Oxford, «endfl us his 

pe CXV. The larffer jiortion is devoted to 

hut the snmilenifutAl list ahould ho 

^t >»y all fonfi of choice hindinR«. for it 

a Jew of tho«e for which the Oxford Pre«« 

th»' ** Urand Prix'' at the Paris Exliibi- 

Thofnny T^rver, of Hereford, has in his 

" ' ' -.' edited by L'Sstranwe, 'iTw. 

David loirriek): * Divdeti's 

.... 1/. 'm. fV/. ; Luhhwk's Hiin- 

wkn, 11. IIU. ; Schoolcraft's 'Indian 

t7nited States,' Philadeli)hia, IHjI, 

' CuUiver,' 1?26, 3/. .V ; 

Mill's 'Turner,' Atiiicw, 

V. ordinary edition, .V. ; 

liiiiivo Autiiiuities,' 7 vol>i,, 1"^, 2(V. ; 

* Freoili H«xik- Plates,' »Ih. In a 

' ' •' ■ ' .' net of 

% 178<J. 

' tower 

nt tiikuii juiit Uifuit its UU, 17 Ai»i il (Easter 
y), 17»U. 

I)^ 1 us froni Exeter 

1^ 11' l>eautiful work« 

w . ,.;. 11.80 Hand-oolonred 

. lolio, I85u, tCi«.: HayleyN 'Life 

■ ^. f^.: Lot-d Ronald fiower's 

i'yl. : and M»iNon'H 

^ue first editions 

1 sjndon,' iiO^.,^ arul 

Ptle, :io^. I of Jane Austen's ' North- 

and * P'^r^naMion,' 4 vols., '21. I'm. 

Thalf till .i.d of *Ni(>li..liw. 

Oth' ■• the ** Author "rt 

W»1i<'m" I J ■ ; of the W'averley 

)&•> : and Uie "Mcmoriol Edition" of 

' '' ■' ' ',.'-,■ .^(ititaJTis 

1 1 voIh., 

^ 'Pro- 

J-,. 1848, 

»)v: and •Villette,' ,^ voLm,, ISTiS. 20*.: the orijcinftl 
edition of Burton's * Arnbinn Ni>?ht8,' 10 vola., 3(V.j 
' Conjt and his Work.' by Hansel, 3/. (onlv twenty 
(M^pieH of this edition remain out of 2(H)) ; (Mckena^ 
Christmas books, ,1 vol«., nil Hrst editions eicept 
the ' Carol,' 4/, 4-*.; Harding's * Iiio|craphical Mirror,' 
brilliant impreasiona of the rKjrti-ait*. 1795-1802, 
14/. 10*.: and The Londott ifazettf. 1848-1900. 
'>*Jvols., 30/. Under Ix)ndou we find Maitland'K 
'Survey,' 21>'., and Cross's 'Com|>anion to the 
Royal Manft«eriej Exeter Change,' 1820, 3*. O/. 
Other itcDJ!* include Foster's 'Miniature Paint erx,' 
8/.; Walter Pat^'tV Works, Hrst edition, H/,; and a 
complete set of The Portfolio, 1870-93, 24 vola., 12/. h 
There is a rare l)ook. the life of Roger Crab. *The fl 
Englinh Hermit^.\ or Wonder of this Ajie.' He Bold H 
a considerable eKtate to ynye to the " Poore,'^ ithow> ^| 
ijig his reasons from Scripture. He counted it a ^| 
Hin against " his body and soule to eate any s-ort of ^^ 
Flenh, Fish, or living: creature." The book ha.s a 
iH.irtrait, and contains 15 i>age^, small 4to, lioardit, 
lew, \f,U. 

McHsrs. E. Georpe h. Sona' Cataloeue 44 is devoted 
t*» Natural Hintory and kindre<l subjects. We Hnd 

Mr. (ieorjre (Treeor>-, of Bath, includes in his 
List 17r> Aiken's * Military Occurrences,' 1820, 30/.: 
Mrs. Williamson's * Book of Beauty.' 1896, 65*.; 
Bryan's * Paititei-s,' 90«. ; TimrM edition of *The 
Enoycloirtedia Hritannica,' with revnlving book- 
oaae, 1(3/. ; Sloane's * Life of Na|K)loon,' 4 vola., 
40«. ; and Pintch 184I-19ir2, a choice set of the 
original issue, half -calf, 2.V. Under Someruet i« 
riiuoli of interest. There are I'eproductions o£ 
engravings by John Eaudmel Smith. 

Mr. William Hitchumnj of Brisf/jl. h/is in Cata- 
lojfue 43 Mortimers ' Burial Mounds of East York- 
shire,' '2/. i».; ' B»vrtolo7.zi,' by Andrew Tuer, 3/. 3<«.; 
.Jasi«.*r*s 'Birds of North America,' .V. 'Am.-, Walter - 
Cranes ♦Faerie Queene,' 3/. 7-. 6<y. : Pooley's *01d 
Stone Crosses of Somerset.' 2.V: Pugb's 'Cambria 
Dcpitca,' 181 H, 4/. KK : ' Rul>ens,' by Max RooHes, 
2 vols., 4to, IWM, 2/, 10*.; and Howell and Cobl>ett'H 
' State TriaK' 14/. 14^*. 

Mr. Eilwftr<l Ho\l^^l^K Livcr|kOo] Catalogue l."i(J 
lias in llie original ImxihIk, uncut, ' Pictures repre- 
senting the Early Period of the Frenob Rerolution,' 
12 large i)ortraits, inij^erial f(»lio. Pari-s, 1803, iV. .V. 

of the Buccaneers of Aniericii.' w ith 2.T plates, in- 
cluding the rare ]Hirtrait of Sir Henry Morgan, 
Ix>udon, lf«f>, ,V. mv. John MarslmlTs 'Life of 
WaHlungtoTi/^li vol.s., 4to, extra-iliustratetl, London, 
18*24, is 2lV. Under Bacon is Pickering'a edition. 
17 vols., c«df, 10/, liv". : also Poj^e's own copy of the 
'Advancement of Learning.' with the inscription 
on back of portrait, " The Loni Bacon's Advance- 
ment of Learning. ExlibriN Alex. Po|>c. V'er, 3." 
Other items include llcjirat's * La Dt'clamation 
'^riieatrale ' (thisj:mpy of a very rare book is surierhly 
l)ound), Paris, 1766, 10/.; Rogers's 'Poems,' Mnxoii-, 
1838, 20/. (this is cxtraillu.'<trat«;<l "«\\.\\ A -- \ ^ 
8et of India proofs, and l\\e \AwAu\^ \\tc\ 
33/.) ; ' Encycloptwlia BhUnmca,' \\1 . V" V 

NOTES AND QUERIES. no s. vii j.>. r,, law. 

jirice fiii" i\uH la 38/."); and a first edition of the 

* ( Jri'ville M«n*uii:t4,' with the SAlJuptnisaeil iMlHsuiges, 
It. \iU. Thtire are luiui lints uiukr NH]rijleon, 
Preufh Rcviilution. and LAnoiishire. 

Mn <Jeo«-};« 1*. JohnMtoii, of Edirdmtvh, inelndes 
in his CatnlogMt' SI many int+TeKtinjiScuitiBli h<x>kH. 
Wc n«tt' ft few items : * A List of the Aiivfutut-es in 
the Bunk «»f SfMttlmid,' 17IM Hnd xanoviw vetirs l«» 
I77H. uIho the )irn]trit»torR in tht? stcK'U in |SI7, G&s.; 

* FoeiHs by Dnitniiiuiid of Huw thorndvn,' tirst it^suc, 
11156, IW. ; lxM».'hton'>* ' A]hh.>a1 t4> thv Pnrlisnictit. 
or Sion'.H Piim nuiiinMt the 1 relnoy,' 15*. No date is 

f'ivuu. Tin- uuthor was the father of th« Arch- 
liftho]! of (ihi-ijfow. ftnil for jmhliKhing this IxMik he 
\vii» ivliiiiiied. pilloried, hatl his nose slit, ear** cut 
off, wrts hrntidod *'S, ,S." (sower of neilition), fined 
lO.UXV., and fiententv»l to i>er!»t?timl imnrisonmejit. 
He NVrts<l in llt4(l ny tlie L«Jiig riirliauieiit. 
hut <lied iiiNvne not lonu ftft<'r Tliere are a nund>er 
of workH unfler Witchcraft. Amonjr ffcneral items 
«rt.« Honie «if I'iekehnvt'w la-^iutifid "Diamond 
OlrtRsies," including l>ante, Catulkis, Cicero, ftc. 

Herr (leorg LtHsa setuls from Berlin his fata- 
K>i;ue 42, mostly devotwl to (rcrnuvn lil4?rature. 
<«<)ntuin)n;; itenif* under Afrika, Amerika, Fa^^l, 
<»oethe. Sehiller, &.c\ Amony French works i» the 
*lJaleiie Lithograidiiw ' of the Duke of Orlwina. 

Mr. .lames Rrnrhe's CatuloKtie 151 has a volume 
■oontaininjf int*'rrKtinii traeu, «Ve.. one W'\n\i, 'The 
Ca«e suid NIemoirs of the llev, JameM Hai-kman and 
<if his Aoinuintant'e with Minn Martha Reay," 
with portrait, 1/. 5j<. tiif. ; 77ic Mnttthh/ Mirror, 
n vols., \f. I>t,. IW/. : ClouefM "Tin re Hundred 
FiXMich l*ortraitH,' '2 voIk., folio, 1K75, '.V. hV : 
lIiihaniM 'HinUiry of Bmldhism," I8*jfi. :V. 1(K ; 
*l)ramalic R«Xf»lle<'tions/ liy N. S, R.. 13 plates of 
.M«<<r©adv, - parts fnli««. lH.lK-9 ("no t-efcrenoe U» 
their pul>Ji<*a!ion in JUiy l»io;irH|ihy "), I/. 1(V. : 
Alk'ckett'H ' Coinie History of Ktiiilnnrl.' 2 vols., 
and •Uimnir Hiiit^.jy of Ronu*/ IM4T, :V. iKf. H»^ ; 
Milton's VVorkn, life )>v .Mitfuitl, (In'swiek PrewH. 
I8ti7. :V. 1<V tW. : • Scntiii 1 Ji'pictn,* 1H19, •_»/. ^U. ftA ; 

* HiidiUni-'^,' .'< Vols., also ' The Poetitvil Remains of 
.SanmelRntler,' 4 voK, royal.Kvo. IKHPiT. .'V. IH-. <V/.; 
Danieir.H 'Oriental Seenerv.' 1HI*J-I(i, '2f, .">*. ; and a 
Ion): under India and t)te Ka»t. 

Mt'ssrs, Soilienin ft O).'* Priee Current WliK i?? full 
«tf valuahle itemw. We not*- a few: Baneroft'H 
' HiHtorirjil Workn on Western AmeHeriii Orijiins' 
:Wvol«., San KramiKiM*. \HS:Ur.i, IW. : and the rare 
iirlition of I)iant<\ 1477, 42/. (the rtftet-n leaves fiome 
titneji found, eonl^iininji the life Ky B«K»eo<^'oio, are 
not in this t-^jpy). Another exeeisively rare Uiok :« 
the fi|-st etiitton nf ' The t Julden lA'jjjend,' printed 
wholly hy Wynkvn de Worde, 145** (title an«l H>nK« 
knives mis8in«). "?'»/. It has the very mie woojIuiU 
of the Atoniiiflrttion and the L'nK-itixion. .\lnteh- 
lesHfoj.i- •• jviper of piUlir)'.-* ' hecameron," 

and *r Tiiur,' tirst e<lil»n(if+, H vols.. 

hrf>wn 111 : ■, Ira, 1SI7-23, are 7ll^.: a wl of the 

k^i iuhiirff ft tu iMkHi it* '2H/.: t'4»mplete wet of Folk-lore 
So«"iiel v'ttlVdilirntiooH. 4<k/. : a net of the< !e!ograi»hi(Ni1 
So- ' ' ■ r " MM. :c»/.: and Wal. 

ix. . IHI5.7I, ;iV. A 

Vvr;, n '2li voU., olive 

numn'to Uy l^sMr., 17JMIKIJ5. tKiiii/. ThiK compriHeH 
the Samuel •TuhnMiii and (ieor^fe Steeveux eilitiori, 

i:^ ' . '--- ■ ■'•-■ '--"■ •'' - ■ ^'-v-- 

the works of Homjw, 1843-i{2. I ' * t ! « • 

Moth>y, 9 vol«., 12/. ]2«. ; Swiul.i /.; 

TetnivHon, inchuling 'Life,' Hi'. I • ■_ l,.:ajfj 

24vo1k,, l.V. !.>«.; and the *M«MiUhdi fUiitioa" off 
Dtekens. ItV. ICi-. 

Mr. Thonm>< Thorp'K Lond<>t> Cutnl .«>. 

tAin.s iitiuie fii-st editiijjis of H. t) ,„> 

Works; a.s«tof litil/jio, ".raiMintrse VelU.;,. .^.i.. i.^ii," 
10 voU, 1897,2/. IHv ; ii collcetion o? olrl niiiitMry 
hroads»de.H. I7J>7, TV. ^ r Shelley"^ W^ks. Mnxon. 
1S47, ri vols., oriufi ■ * 1 . nneut, 2/. ItWj 

and a iKviutilnl f ■• •■;<, • K}*sn5ns,' Iflin, 

|»anelled oa!f fiy Z^ i . 

C'at4ilogue 5 from Mr. Thor|i'? ( oiiMiord'H htwiMT 
eontAins Ratfaelle, • L«jggie nel Vatnano,* the 55 
platet* in nplendid f.^ondition. 1772-f5. 55/. • Um 
*' Library hdition" of FroudeV * HiHtor>\' hxtt 
monxHX), I83<>-7(K 7/. !"'<.<•*/.; ' Mtii^V' d. - ^■••:ti-^» 
Paris, IHl 1. 2 voIk., roynl folio. .*1/. T^.; 1 - >,/,» 

* Naples.' liilo, .t/. !,><.: Finden^M • Poi • rte 

Court of Victoria/ Hojjarth, 1H49. 2 \oLa., toUo. 
^V. I5«. 

Mr. treoTge Winter's Catnloirue 4-1 -i TJi ^ 

eolleetion of fifteen items ot .MS. ,^ 

volumeK in Arable, Persian, and Hindu ' <■ tn 

are long lists under Anuling and Art. 1ji tlio we Hnd Comt*? Athnna^e Rnc/viiHki*H • His- 
toirc de I'Art Moderne en Allrm *'-n^, l.HHS. 

.V, ,>, ; Pictach's 'Contempoj.v ,, Art** 

.37-. tK/. : *nd Solly V ' Life of \k*^ .-. Th« 

(Eeneral list utrutains first mlitiuns oi .Swuiburuo 
and Lever. 

^oXius to Corrtsponi^ents. 

MV mumt f'ttff MjMiiUftJ (t/lriitioti to tht /oUottfiMtf 

fls all <.H>mnnniieation!<i must Ui written the tmroo 
and tuidreHH of the sender, ni»t mK-es.^iirily fur |«til»> 
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-slipol paper, with the mynatur*' of the writ^trntMl 
Hiieh address a* hi- wi«hc« t« i avp'-^f NN'ben nii^v«»r- 
iu}; <|Ue(ies, or making; note- V. \ m^ 

enlnew in the iMipcr, <!ontni u> 

I Hit in I wire II theses, imnte<[i .> .,,: , ..ii^t 

imrlin«, the Huries, volume, and paue ur \itufi^ lo 
whieli they refer, CoriViiiK»fident« who i-o|ie«t 
ijuerieM are lequt^lvd \a) head the second ouitl- 
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CONTEXTS. -No. 150. 
IJOTKS :— Orwell Town and Hrtven, ai— "Shall TreJAwny 

~ ' lington 

.Sc-.-i ,, ,..i-. ;..,.,, i....,., ii..,.v^.-. Ivlk-lore: 

"NiRriu- lui«» - l'j\rinh Kegintcrw; Curiauq fcntriw, '2G 
— M.tjnr UnmiU nf 0\prl — Kdward IV. a Wooing at 
""''•'^F 27. 

I:— John N(»w)»#rv'»« (inivw — l*»liuip«e»t Bmiw 
'ma, 27— (Joulum ilr.ifl*— \Vor»t«n>»rtn*s Primrosie 

FlMVte M- riutorern ineiini"— 

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^Orkwell" i.s mentioned by Chaucer 
the Prologiif^ to hia * Cttnt«rbufy Tales,' 
where the nitTchant exprt*r;se« a wish that 

the see were kepte for any thinge 
Bytwy3w>1y»UI«<M»«>r«»i»n:ht! and Orewell. 

Prof. Skcat in hw notes {v. 30) identifies 

Orewell with the river of that name, and 

f Adtla that the spot waa formerly known as 

I tlio yoTt of Orwell ; and he romes to the 

I -conchLsion that the mention of IMiddelbiirg 

in liolland tends to prove that the PtoIojetvio 

wa» wTittcn not earlier than 1384 (? 1382) 

jyior later than 1388. that is, at a time when 

[the wool 8tai>le was tcni]iorarily located 

[•at that Dntcn town, and not at Calais. 

<»,.i.i..,.r of course meant tlie haven, and not 

. and it lias be«n atnoot point among 

- whether a town of Orwell has 

! or not. Two contributions 

iTrtd recently in The En^li^h 

Hti%*itw on this very much debate<l 

first contributor. Mr. K. G. Mar^den. 

Mn tlld IttOfi January number of the fiiruw. 

[laoldiy h««ad8 liis arlicio ' Tiie Mythieal 

rown of Orwell,* and winda up with the 

' f oUoviog v«rdict t — 

■ 't ol the pvidonce 9oeni» to be that, 
111' luiji iIm' ooon^ujimJ tnentiun of a 'Y'llU 

deiifut'ii pii df»' : 'i' t\ve»;ti 12i!U ami lltti], 

tbore nev<?r wft-s l tlut. lunnc, lutf that 

Harwich town mi u niid MrwoJl Imveii, 

including its nhoret^ ttitd ilitr river up to I{w\irich, 
were snmotimt^s [/ri't'J called Orwell." 

Mr. Mars^flen admits, however, tliat if no 
town of Orwell ever existed, the documents 
mentioning a ** villa de Orwell " require 
explanation, which he fumialies forthwith. 
According to him, " tliere «eems to have 
been a tendency amongst the scribes who 
drew up wTit« invent a town where 
only a river or harbour existed." (It is 
very difficult to imagine how a harbour can 
exist without a town.) The "mayor of 
the town of Orwell," he thinks, is probably 
a mistake of the same kind. The similarity 
of old forms of the names of Harwich and 
Orwell may have aUo given rise to confusion- 
Consequently it is not snu^prising that Orwell, 
or one of ita variants, should have been used 
for Harwich, and vice versa. Yet we or© 
told that in four docmnentn Onvell aj)|»ear8 
to be distinguished from Harwich or Ipswich, 
for those towns are mentioned as well as 

The four documents in quewtiim were dxily 
dealt with in the October nmubi^r of tlje 
i^eriVu' by Mr. J. H. Wylio, who joins is«ue 
with Mr. Marsden, and niainlains that 
Orwell cannot properly be called a mythical 
town. Two of the deeds mention Ipswich 
and Orwell, but not Harwich, and conse- 
rjuently do not help to any detinite solution. 
The third, however, is an order to the bailitis 
of certain towns to cause all o-wners and 
masters of ships to come to Erewell, in Suffolk 
(1326); upon the same occasion separate 
writ« were issued to Harwich and Orwell. 
The fourth document (44 Kdward IfL. 137U) 
refers to payment* to some messengers for 
going to tne mayor and bailiffs of Harwich, 
and to others for going on Himihu- errands 
to Ipswich and Orwell. Besides these 
proofs, Mr. \Vylio tpiotea from Rymer^s 
' Foedera * a proclamation addre^s«»d in 
1387 to the bailiffs of tlie town of Orwell, 
and another on the same page to tlie bailiffs 
of Harwich. 

Proofs Uko the foregoing can l>e multii>li<?d. 
Thus the * Calendar of Pati'tit Kolls of 
Edward II.' contains the following rnfri's : 

1326, 10 Aug. Parliamentary »Tii 
pointing four men in the port?* and i 
of Herewiz and elsewhere m i\w count> ut 
Essex, and three other men in Ipswich, 
Erewell. and (jos**'f<.»nI, tlio laj^t named being 
another " miknown " (i.r. mythical) town, 
according to Mr. Miw**len. 

NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vil Jx^ 

' IS. ulM 

1325, 22 March.'* Writ of aid for cwie year 
mentioning the appointment, a few years 
before (14 Edwara 11.). of collectors in the 
towns and ports of Oreford, Goseford. 
Erewell, and Ipswich, all in the county of 

1326, 18 Feb. and 12 April. Commission 
of oyer and tenniner in the suit against 
Adam Payne, of Arewell, Richard Love and 
Roger atte Hide, both of Harwich, and 
many other men, who have cjimed away 
a great fish called " cete " found in the 
manor of Walton, in Essex. Mr. Marsden 
mentions Payne, but not the other two men. 

A docujnent dat€^d 3 Sept., 1326, about 
the assembly of ships at Erewell, mentions 
also the port of Herei^iz. 

1326, 10 Sept. Appointment of three 
men to select twelve sliips in the to-wiia of 
Harwich and Ipswich and their uiembers, 
to be at Orfordnesse on a certain day to 
repel the enemy if they attempt a landing 
there while the fleet is assembled at Ercwell. 

Mr. Karl Kimze in lus ' Hanseakten aus 
England' (Halle, 1891) has published some 
documents which bear upon our subject. 
They are as imder : — 

1314, 24 Sept. Patent RoU containing 
the king*s order about a sliip seized " in 
portu rfe Hei^nco." A similar order of 
same date about goods illegally seized in 
Orwell Haven. A similar order, dated 
20 Sept., 1314, about a ship seized in Har- 
wich harbour. 

1403. Complaints of certain merchants 
of Prussia about the illegal seizure of sliips 
from '* Dancr-ik '* laden with salt. " Navis 
est apud Orwell." 

1404. Complaint of the " consulatus " 
of Hamburg about the seizure of a ship by 
the brothers Thomas imd John Rudde, 
who took her " in Norwelle," where they 
di%nded with others the cargo. The host of 
the said brothers *' in Norwelle," whose 
name was Cogghendorp,* received as his 
share of the spoil 10 lasts of beer (^* lo laste 
ccrviffiarum "). We are told elsewhere in 
the same document that in those days 
*• quelibet lasta fcervisie] comprehendit 12 
vasa et quelibet laeta taxata est in valorem 
8 nobl." 

The last two docimients do not mention 
Harwich, and therefore do not help to any 
solution, but are of some interest apart from 
the present controversy. 

Mr. Wylie quotes also a docmnent of 

• Alxinl I'^TX a ship, whose master was Coiimd 
Westfal. '*vt>tiienfe (vl T»<»rtum Orwell, iinidnm dt? 
Herewi«'li. nomiju' GKjkenthor^* ijiHam uavem 
Hrrentjivit " (' HMiaereoeat^* vol. liu p. 192). 

1355 mentioninjE; a vicar of Orwell, but, th» 
county not bemg mentioned, it is quits 
possible that it refers to the place of l^ 
same name which belonged to the diooeas 
of Ely, and was situated in the cotinty d 
Cambridge, where the Gilbertian CAoosa 
had a monastery. 

One of the proofs adduced by Mi*. MarsdoD 
in support of his contention that the name 
of *' Orwell " was occasionally used for 
" Harwich " is that we find sometimes the 
same sliip described indifferently aa **of 
Harwich " and " of Orwell," and Klnm 
owned in Harwich are called "of (' 
He cites five examples, to test four oj 
woiild necessitate a visit to the Public 
Record Oflice. The fifth ship, nained the 
Erasmus, is mentioned in one of the docu- 
ments quoted, but not in the other, amongst 
the ships of the Iceland fleet then recently 
returned to England. Moreover, the Kraa- 
mus belonged to a period {i.e., Henry VTIL's 
reign), when, as we shall presently* »f»e, the 
town of Orwell was no longer in existence. 
Two ships out of the other four belonged 
to a still more recent period, and therefore 
three out of the five ships prove nothing. 

It has already been pointed out by Mr. 
Wylie that Harwich is in the county of 
Essex. Orwell, on the other hand, is as a 
rule referred to in the documents as being in 
Suffolk ; but there are exceptions to tliis 
rule. Thus, e.g., a Patent RoU of 14 
Henry m. (1230) conveys an order to- 
seize all "naves in portubus de Erewell ei 
in aliis portubus comitatus Essexio inventas'** 
and the document is headed '* De nAVtbus 
in comitatu Essexio arrestandis." Old Silas 
Taylor, alias Domville, who wrote in 1676, 
also tells us that 

"the princijial otHccrs of his ^\ oe 

in the Tower of London rin ^ ^^ 

former I irecctlents) oontinue the \'»i,,,m. .j l. uid- 
jniard-l-ort in Essex- "—8ani. Drtles ' Mintory of 
Harwich and Dovercourt' (London, I7.SO), jj. 1"i". 
Some lines lower down, however, the samd 
writer states that south-west of the fort 
" m the entrance into the Harbour." showing 
that, as regards the coimty in wliich Land- 
guard Fort was situated, he was at variance 
with the principal officers in the Tower. 

The order dated 18 Feb., 1351, to the col- 
lectors of the twopeimy subsidy in the port 
of Orewell, aa to how to deal with a certain 
ship driven by tempest into that port, doea 
not state the r — r and it is only the 
modern index tl is the port to Ea^ex 

(* Cal. of Close 1; -n^ i..i word 111.*). 

On tho other hand, sonie explanation is 
required what power the Sheriff of Etasex: 

m J AS. 12. 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

arrest a ship at Orwell, as mentioned 
tie order, dated 11 Feb., 1345, to 

" the ahip in question {ibidem^ 

ahip wa^ arrested by the same 

the port of Harwich, also in 1345 

_^3. 512 and 551). 

D, m 1339 there was a fraca-s about a 

»hip in the port of Orewell, between 

men from Great Yarmouth and the 

of Herewicz, and the baiUffa of both 

received instructions in this matter, 

[lot those of Orewell. 

th cases can be explained by the fact 

Orwell Haven stretched right across 

Ehscx shore, although the town itself 

in SnfTolk. Thus Sila-s Taylor quotes 

4) from " a deed with seals " of a grant 

mc^ssuage in Harwich '* uno capita 

[«<?] super stratum ducentem usque 

ortum Orwell." in 1 Edw. IV. (1461). 

Marsden hiraself mentions tlio case 
^ahip arrested " on the water at Orwell, 
county of Essex, a place adjacent to 
ich." No date is gi\'en, and I must 
efore refrain from all coninient. 
i a mattfir of curio.sdty I may quote one 
data froni the ' Hansiaches Ur- 
i Buch.' edited by Karl Kamze (vol. ^^., 
:. 1905, 8«id vol. ix.) they are : "In 
Herwich super Norwell " (1427), 
'^iifrri [outside] Xorwelle in de Woes" 
and "Orwell Kaldewater" (14(38). 
• ciu- in letters written by German 


the same collection we 6nd " in portu 

elord by Baldresea in Suffolk" (1323). 

Bother Oerman, Johann Rover, dates 

j lettw from *' Herwycht in Norwelle " 

[8t. John's Day. 1437 (' Hanserecesse,* 

art* in the same volume 

'Uio written *' in dem schepe 

r >"■ • • rl" and others at 


t ■< -rived from old 

1 1 is quite right 

tly an Orwell 

l>e of the thirteenth 

Julius 1>. ^'ii.), has the 

- between Colchester and 

orr) '•- " Hippoll" (?Har- 

h, Angtila-* 

_ i-l). There 

■ttnrs* or iuUnitiititjus. of the coast 

•nd the n»m»»s ar^i aU on the land, 

;h Mr. Marsden 

t the sixteenth 

ur^ nr- rfect that they 

no re are some 

L-st.y.. i. iiiii.u i^l^iy. Augustus T. 

vol. i. 57 and 58. both mulated, but un- 
questionably of the time of Henry VTIl. ; 
and a third of the same series, dated 28 
Henry VIII. (1537), which shows some 
fortifications i)rojeeted by Henrj- Lee, one 
on the Essex and the other on the Suffolk 
side of the entrance from the " Maj-ne Sea.'*^ 
All three plans are drawn to a large scale, 
and agree upon the point that Orwell Haven 
was in Henry VIII. s time the name of the 
short estuarj" formed by tlie confluence of 
the two rivers callotl the Stour and the 
Orwell to-day, the former river being called 
" the creek going to Mannetre *' on one, and 
" the water to Mamietre " on the other 
chart, and the latter '* the creek going to 
Ippewiche *' on one, and " the water to 
Gipswiche " on the other chart. 

The same eatuarj' ii^ again clearly marked 
as " Orwell hauen '' on Cliristofer Saxton's 
map of 1575, and also on Blaew's raajj of 
the county of Essex of about 1636. 

On the special chart in ' The Mariner*8 
Mirrour,' by Luke Wagenaer, of Enldiuisen, 
however, the name of Orwell Haven occurs 
on the land, on the sea side of Landguard 
Point, and there is a small indentation of 
the coast. The author's * Admonition to the 
Reader ' is dated 1586, and the Preface of 
the English editor, j-Vnthony Asliley, 1588. 

On Capt. Grenville Collins's chart, on the 
other hand, the name of Orwell Haven, 
though still on the land, is transferred to the 
harbour side of the Point, and is placed 
against the mouth of a creek. The date of 
tliis chart is 1680, and it is included in the 
second part of the captain's " Coasting 
Pilot," which w as published in 1693. 

While on tlie subject of charts and maps, 
I may mention that on one Cotton MS. 
Landguard Point is named *' Lunger Pointe," 
on another (No. 58) *' Langer Point," and 
'* The PoU Ilead " is shown as an island on 
tJie latter. On Saxton's map the name is 
** Langeraton." I have read the statement 
that •* maps of the date of 1700 showed 
Landguard Fort a^ detached from the main- 
Itmd and considerably northward of its 
present site," but they, no doubt, sliowed 
the more anciunt fort mentioned by Silas 
I'aylor nnd Dale, and not the present 
structure. L. L, K. 

(To hr conttHned.) 


It is generally accepted that while 
'* Hawker of Morwenstow " wrote the 
verses of tliia well-known Comish aong, 
the burden, 




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■ i^v'ny die, mid shall Trclawny die? 
"Uiuind Cortiishmeu will kiiow ll 

I eai 

kilow ihe 

very much older, and is iwiially asi^ociated 
til the arrest by Jamea II. of Sir JoriLftthan 
relau-ny, Hisliop of Bristol, one of *' tho 
leven Bishops," in 1688. As suiig at dinncira 
if Oornishmen to-day — whether held in or 
lilt of the *' delectable Duchy " — the munber 
is accustomed to be given as twenty thou- 
sand ; but a curious piece of evidence has 
ime to lii^ht wliich indicates that the idea 
thirty thousand Cornishnien (the niimbtfr 
ailopt^ni by Macaulay) being ready for some 
political tight or other was prevalent at the 
riod of the Revolution. 
In Michaelmas Term of 1693 an informa- 
.on wa^ exhibited in the Crown Office against 
icliard Edgecombe for speaking and pub- 
hing tlivera dangerous and »editi<m8 words 
;ain«t the Govermnetit of WiUiam and 
ary in the October of that year, he saying 
at he would fight for ICing James and 
ideavour to restore liim, and that thirty 
lecmd men were ready. For this he waa 
lund to appear at the next assizes for 
Cornwall in 1G94, lnjlden at Launceston ; 
and, being thoroughly frightened, he peti- 
"" ned their Majesties, in Februarj', 1694, 
a stay of proceedingji. The matter wa« 
referred to the Attorney- General for report ; 
aiid that law officer had before him not only 
gecornbe's original allegation that the 
■secution appeared to be malicious, of 
wliich there seems no evidence, but a 
certificate from the accused attesting his 
»*alty, and alleging that he was greatly 
.tempered by drink at the time. This 
nbination of pleas weighed with the 
it torney- General, who recommended the 
le of a warrant for a ce^sat proccsstut 
(• Doinestio Stat>e Pap'ra, William and 
Mary, UU>4-5.' pp. 20. 191) ; and thus a 
trial was iirevent-ed wliich must have tlorown 
some light upon the Jacobito movement 
then sei'thing in Cornwall. 

Who WBA this Richard Edgecombe, bow- 
er, is not obvious. He could scarcely 
kve been Richard Edgcumbe, of Cotehele, 
Baron Mount Edgcumbe, and only son of 
Richard Edgcumbe, of Cotehele and 
Mount EdgcumV>e, one of Charles II.'s 
Knight* of the Bath (made so previously to 
coronation in order to attend that 
mony). w)jo had <^at for Launceston in 
Pensionary Parliament, elected in 
I, and had been returned for Cornwall 
Marclj. l«7f>. October, 1679, and 1681, 
ing in 1688. This Richard was baptized 
^i Apri), 1 r»sr>, and therefore waa no more 


■ ref. 
I and 

I %rlii 


than fourteen at the tim- ' *' 
have quottid. But the I 
in the county was a large oi.-; 
and among it« members may \^ 
another Kichard to make tltc nii ,^* vi -» «uu 


(Th-' "■•-*•• .1 ■ - ' -V - '»- ' - • 

ill I 

OH ' 1 I" ; : ■ . ■ 1 I , M' ■ 


(See 10 S, ii. 281, 351 ; iii. 447.) 

Under 1568, " Misoricordia Domini 
pont«?m et fontem," Mr. King refers to 
1636 (fifth) edition of Camden s ' Remaine 
where these words are ascribed to 
Augustine. The passage in tlie firat 
(1605) is on p. 55 of * Certaine Pc 
&c., printed, with sejmrate pn:--"-r 
the end of the book. The qu<>' 
rently, is not to be found Ui .Vi^^t 
(see 8 S. viii. 518 ; ix. 258). 

Camden presiimably made up th© 
maines ' from notes which, in some iiiBtancM; 
may have been many j'ears old : but, ar 
from the question of priority in timet 
wortli pointing to the following : — 

"The mercy of fJod La m-ver to Ite t}v.n\ 
but still to Ihj exiR«ctc<l, even inter nonffnt 
juipdHni ef f/fadium."- -' Diitry nf .John Maruuu«J»i 
16a2-,3,' Camden .Soc, 186H, ji. f). 

This seems to belong to the year 1602, and 
is among some brief not<ss of a sermon by 
Mr. Phillips. 

The interesting thing is that the fuUe 

fomi of the quotation in the * Diary ' cc 

sponda with tliat used by Robert Burtoi 
(' Anatomy of MelancJmly,* near tho end 
Part I., p. 277 in the first edition, 1621) ;- 

" Thus of their gootls and htxlie'i ^v ' ■! 

l)Ut •what shall become of thtar nonl 
can tell, his meroy may ooino in^'t' po, 
inter y/adium *:f inynhnn."' 

As to Mr. Phillips the editor of Ui< 
' Diary ' makes no suggestion, but one may 
conjecture that ho was Edward Pluli|: 
'* certaine Godly and learned '* sennons 
whom, delivered in St. Saviour's, Southwai 
were taken down and aft<<rwarda publi&li 
(1605) by Henry Yelverton, the futur 
Judge. See Foster's ' .Ahmmi Ox 
vol. iii. p. 1156 (Edward PhiUiips), 
Bliss's edition of Wood's * Atner • '>- 
onienses,* vol. i. col. 739 f Edward 
who di<i1 xrtVH Wood, •• «H I gue-as, iu .4y,,„ 
or th- "). 

I ii led throuch the rtennun* K.« 

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do not find that wliich Mattmngham beard. 
The quotation is still to trace. 

Edwa&d Beu^sly. 
Uni\TJniity Cfjlleirf*, Aljeryntiryth. 

Wheii at Brighton lately I happened to 
take down from the Free Library reference 
Bhelves, froely open to readers, a book with 
wliioli 1 am aorr>' to s&y 1 was not before 
acquainted. King'ij ' Claaaical and Foreign 

In the ' Quotation.s Index ' I observe one 
I have never been able to find in any other 
work — " Spartain nactus e», banc exoma.'* 
Mr. King tells us that the usual translation 
or interpretation of the Latin, *' You have 
lighted on Sparta, (therefore) be an orna- 
ment to it,'* or more generally " You are 
by accident of birth a Spartan, so do your 
best to adorn your country/"' is wrong. 
The explanation ia too long to quote (hco 
pp. 3:^2-3). 

Mr. King gives us anonymous quotations 
under the title of * Adeepota.* Now '*anony- 
mous " is a cumbersome word enough, but 
1 do not think much can be said in favour 
of such a word as ** adespota." 

One translation I not« Beema to have 
tlie autlinrity of a great name: *' I/aniitie 
est TAiiKnir nana aile«." This Lord Byron 
traniiloted, we are told, " Friondsliip is 
Love witliout his wings." Hut this does 
not appear to rne to be an exact translation. 
Then- is no *' hia " in the original ; and love 
here is quite as impersonal as friendsjnp. 

Tlie preface tells us of a niost imfortunat4? 
aup^jre.ssioii which ha^ been made in this 
""ition, namely, the oniiagion of the mottoes 
the Engli*li peCTage^ on the abriurdly 
ridiculous objection of a correspondent that 
tbmr insertion was " lordolatrs-." To this, 
Mr. King obserx'ea, he had no reply. \A'ell, 
] should liave given a pretty forcible reply. 
Many classical quotationa and many of our 
most trenchant mottoes, the pride of the 
Engli^Ii, are consequently omitted. One of 
theite is " Hoc age. Shortly translated, it 
means " di> this, ' that is, attend to what 
you are about, or attend with all your 
might and main to the matter you have in 
hand. Raij>h Thomas. 

** BirsiCTK." — Prof. Skeat ha« been lately 

. — - jng to the Philological Society an 
>'jy for this extremely difficult word. 

i.<iH in Florio the word horzachini, 

buakin^ and he 8»*«;«*i no difficulty in deriving 
frum this o<.niiiJirAti\oly modern Italian 
word ttui I (oh forms brousfquin^ 

htOtt«juin, '• ami l/rodfonin. He 

thinks it is quit^ easy to derive all the forms 
of buskin in Spanish, Dutch, and English 
from the Florio form borzacl*/in%, la it 
possible to acce|it this account of the source 
of oiu" word " buskin " ? Tt seema to me 
that such an etjTnologj' is impossible. How 
can the French foi*ms be derived from the 
Italian form, when, so far as the e\ndence 
goes, the French forms are older than the 
Italian one by moi*© than a century ? But 
let it be grant^ed that the Italian borzacrhini 
(as it should be spelt) is the original of sU the 
bitskin forms, it is impossible to find an ety- 
mology for the Italian word- Certainly. 
Prof, Skeat's etj-mologj' will not do. He 
explains borzacckino as a diminutive of 
It. borza, a form of borsa, a purse, Or. fdvpirij^ 
a liide. But how can this be ? There is no- 
diminutive t?uffix -cchino in Italian. Prof. 
Skeat has been thinking of the d i-^ Mvo 
-ino ; but how is the ch- to be * ' ? 

I am afraid the word cannot be l .^|^tHi 
as a word formed on Italian soil. It is far 
safer to explain it as a borrowing from on© 
of the non-It alan forms. These all point 
as Dozy suggests, to a source : cp. 
Sp. borc^egui, Pt. borzegttim. For th© rela- 
tion of these old forms to the Arabic origin 
sherqi sheep's leather, 1 beg to refer the eager 
inquirer to the learned pages of Dozy. See' 
his * Glossaire des Mots Espagnola et Portu- 
guais derivifs de I'Arabe ' (i**t5^)» *•»'• * ^or- 
cegui.' A. L. Ma\-hkw. 

Penneix's 'Lite of Lei^sd.' — In Mrs. 
Pennell's ' Life of Charles Godfrej- Lei and,* 
1906, vol. i. p. 244, we are told that " h» i 

astounded the pstssing Magyar almost to tears ^H 
with an unexp<*cted Bassama TtremUtt.'* ^^| 
Mrs. Pennell seems to think this is a sort of 
national salutation. Lest any of lier readers 
should be tempt wi to try experiments with 
passing Magyars, I feel bound to point out 
that it is a blasphemous oath, such as I am. 
sure woultl never have 8«jiled her pages if 
she had known its meaninia;. Reatlers of 
Borrow will remejuber the ])rominent part 
it plays in his *^ Gvpsies of Spain.' owing to 
a theorj* he had that from it is derived the 
name Bwini, given by the Spanish gipsies 
to all who are not of their race. Borrow 
calls it *' a tenn exceedingly cotamon 
amongst the lower orders of Magyars, to 
their disgrace be it spoken." I have been 
in Budfipest. and often heard it, but never 
from an educated Hungarian. 

J AS. I*LATT. Jun- 

\V\*jMivoTO>f pKDlGHKi: About elj^ht 
w« 1 saw in either -/ CAromids 

oi A If Mirror a )• > it A gMitlo- 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. jak. 12, iw7. 

-man asking whether a pedigree of Waahing- 
ton existed. I shall be glad to communicate 
with the writer, as I possess the pedigree. 

A. Hills. 
3, Duke Street, Margate. 

Cambridge Booksellers and Printers. 
— The following list of booksellers and 
printers in the town of Cambridge during 
the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries 
will supplement the lists of provincial 
booksellers in the last two volumes of 
^ N. & Q.* The date is in each case that of 
the proving of the will : — 

Atkinson, Troylus, 1675. Bookseller, also church- 
warden of (rreat St. Marie. 

Atkinson, William, 1090. Son of above ; bookseller. 

B^hmore, Edward, 1689. Stationer. 

Boiedens, John, 1502. Stationer. 

Brevnans, Peterj 15U4. Stationer. 

Dickinson, William, 1718. Bookseller. 

Field, John, the elder, 1668. Citizen of London, 
stationer, and printer. 

Foakes, John, 1664. Printer. 

(jraves, William, 1680. Stationer. 

(ireene, Richard, 1699. Stationer. 

Hall, Edward, 1703. Bookseller. 

Leete, Rol)ert, 1663. Printer. 

Moody, Henry, 1637. Stationer. 

Moody, Thomas, 1661. Bookseller. 

Milleson, John, 1670. Stationer. 

Morden, William, 1679. Bookseller. 

Nicholson. Anthony, the elder, 1067. Stationer. 

Porter, John, 1608. Stationer. 

Scarlett, William, 1617. Stationer. 

Skarlett, John, 1502. Stationer. 

Sought, John, 155.3. Stationer. 

•Spyrync, Nicholas, 1545. Stationer. 

Webfit^jr. Thomas, 1722. Bookseller. 

Worlecli, William, 1631. Stationer. 

Wray, Henry. 1(«S. Stationer. 

H. R. 

The Scots Greys and Grey Horses. — 
In the descriptive lettcrr^ress to the series 
of sketches bearing on tno past history of 
this distinguished corps, given in TAe Illus- 
trated Lor^n News of 22 December last, 
it is stated that " grey horses are not men- 
tioned until 1702.*^ There is a letter still 
extant from Capt. Andrew Agnew, of the 
Royal Scots Dragoons, to his cousin Sir 
Andrew Agnew of Lochnaw, Bart., Sheriff 
of Wigtownshire, dated 28 August, 1693, 
on the subject of the purchase for the writer 
of " a grey horse " (The Agnews of Loch- 
maw,* p. 453). Charles Dalton. 

Holed - Stone Folk - lore : " Night- 
haos." — If I remember aright, * N. & Q.' 
has on several occasions contetined para- 
graphs regarding stones with natural or 
artificial holes in them being used for the 
purpose of warding off evil ; it may therefore 
be well to draw attention to the fact that 

Mr. Worthington G. Smith has in The Pro- 
ceedinga of the Society of Antiquaries for 
8 February, 1906, recorded that in soms 
parts of South Bediordshire it is still believed 
" that a snsiHinded holed stone will prevent iUneas 
in cows, and prevent the entry of the ' night-hag,' 
a sui)ernatural kind of witch, 8Up))Osed to entw 
stables, take out a horse, ride it furiously all night, 
and just before daybreak, take it back to the 
stable, when the farmer, soon after, finds it badly 

Some of your readers will call to mind the 
scene in *Marmion* where young Hemy 

The cost 
Had reckon 'd with their Scottis host; 
And as the charge ho cast and paid. 
•* 111 thou deserrst thy hire," he said ; 
'* Dost see, thou knave, mv horse's plight? 
Fairies have ridden him all the night, 
And left him in a foam ! " 

In Bedfordshire, it appears, nig;ht-hagB 
supply the place of the Northern fairies wiu 
whom Sir Walter Scott was acquainted. 


Parish Registers : Curious Entries. — 
The following are a few examples I have 
come across in my searches : — 

Croydon.— 1506. Doc. 7, Old Megg buried. 

1788. Mary Woodtield, al' Queen of Hell, from 
the College, buried 18 Feb. 

Ludgate, St. Martin's.— 1615. Feb. 28 was buried 
an anotomy from the College of Physicians, 

Blackfriars, St. Anne's. 158(). William, foole to 
my Lady Jcrniingham, burie<l 21 March. 

1626/7. Feb. 9, Lady Lusou's corpse carried away. 

Newcastle-on-Tyne, St. John's. — 1589. Edward 
Krrington, the lowne FooU, buried 23 August, 
die<l in the Pestc. 

1636. Seven iK>ore thinges out of the W^ardeo 
close burie<l 1 Dec. 

Kirby Moorside, Yorks.— The baptism of " Mr. 
Anchitel (irey" is entered through illiterate spell- 
ing, as '* Miss Ann Kettle (4rev." 

Tanx)rlev, Cheshire. — 1626. Richard Welde, 
Papist ana Excommunicate, 20 August, buried at 

Bishop Wearmouth, Durham. — 1506. Feb. 8, A 
woman in the water buried. 

Escomb, Durham.— 1676. Aug. 2, A Hnfftr leild 
was buried. 

Wio-kham, Durham. - 1640. May 4. A Wert 
Countryman buried. 

Hart, Durham.-1641. Feb. 12, Old Mother Mid- 
night of Elwick buried. 

Hawsted. — 1,')89. The Funcrall of^ the Right 
W^orshinfull Sir William Drury, Knight, unt 
execHtta 10 March. 

Salehiu^t, Sussex. — 1683. Oct. .'), Bur^ Peter 
Sparke, aged 120 (xld years. 

Burnham, Bucks.— 1570. Aug. 34, The Queen's 
Footman's Child Buried. 

1575. Nov. .3, The Queen's Launder buried. 

1584. Snow's wife buried 30 March. 

1586. May 9, Maude, the ohild of a Boagae^ 
buried. ^^ 

1567/8. Jan. 4, A Runagate Wench Buried. 

10 8. vu. jas. 12, 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 



CI ('umlni<ltie. — JoTOt Mother Corio 

yfd - I N?c'. 

liv... ....... »»cut.— Mr. Wftrd buried a man. (No 


LttmeRlcy, DtirfiniiTi, - 167^ Annt? Marley, 
Wrftpvf?<l Lii F! ■'* ' itc.) 

Kti*u.lii)|,% S M. KAthreti 

Roose, uit[>rflii ....,] .... .. 

ChcBlumt.— HKH). Fil <i Uiricd. 

17l«. .Fiilv2.>, Old Hal ,e<J. 

N- TJutts. — KiiMi. .M;ii-ch (no day), A 

ohi: Karth liiiricd. 

L; ; .j7. Oct. 16, Old Honesty, ttl" J uett'8 

Wile, bun«i. 

Cam lK<rw«*lI.— 1887. June 2. Robert Hem ftnd 
Kli/jil)t«th Hoxwell, King luulQuoeu of the tiiiwies, 

Durhoni. St. Miiry-le-Bow. — 1722, Bruin Fear- 
son, the Abbey dog whtp]>ur, huned JJ A|»ril. 

1732. James (rnihttnt. a felon, he was hanged y* 
•tunc morning j tut a/Ur mpt., 30 Aug. 

A. B. C. 

IdUjOR Hamili. of Capri. — Perhaps the 
following eimpltj record of a bravo Irish 
officer may be worth adding to the valuable 
ooUection of monumental inscriptionB to 
Britons who have died abroad which have 
appeared in *N. & Q.' I transcribed it in 
1879 from a white marble slab affixed to a 
high wall, forming one side of the piazza, 
at Anacapri, in wliich stands the church 
containing the curious Paradise pavement. 
I cannot say whether it still exists eucnidst 
tlie extraordinary transformations which 
that exqmsiti? fairy isle has since undergone. 
Sir Hudson Lowe (of St. Helena fame) waa 
in 1808 Governor of Capri, and Murat sent 
a force to attack the usual landing-places. 
and a secret one to the extreme west of 
the island, wheore the perpendicular rocks 
were considered inaccessible. However, tlie 
f^nch olimbed up them^ and eudde^nly 
CAiue upon Hnmill and liis astonished little 
Maltese guard The latter tliey soon dis- 
posed of, out tlie gallant son of Erin scorned 
to yield or fly, and lost liia life : — 

"T" til.' Ml nii.rv of .Tf.llin irninill, a native of the 

Major iii His 

• of Multn. who 

'nn\ of 



-i-chjI \uiti been 
LKe, Octobers^, 


lh>WARD IV. 'S WoOtNO AT GraFTON. — 

lAt l>. 110 of a recentlv published interesting 
"" ^ ■ .,k, • O.xfordaluro,' by F, G. Brabant, 
nxl Fort'st in that county is said 
lAlly to have been the scene of the 
•ting of Eflward IV. with Elizabeth 
r«lie^ wnioh ultimately resulted in his 

marriage -with her. She was then the 
widow of Sir John Grey of Groby, who was 
killed at the battle of St. Albans in 1460, 
She was married to the king 1 ^lay. 1464. 

But much more probably Grpfton in 
Northamptonshire was the real place, and 
an ancient weather - beaten tree still in 
existence, and generally celled " The Queen's 
Oak," IB said to have witnessed the wooing. 
Grafton Regis was for many years the hoine 
of the Widvilles, and what is more likely 
than that the first interview between 
Edward IV. and Elizabeth Grey or WidviUe, 
which ended in such an important result^ 
took place near her old home ? 

It continued in subse<|uent years the pro- 
perty of the Crown until granted by Charles IL 
to his illegitimate son Lord Euston, after- 
wards created by him Duke of Grafton. 
There cannot be much doubt as to the 
locality. The romantic story of the ' ' Wooing 
at Grafton " is well known. 


Newlwurne Rectory, Woodbridge. 


Wk must re*it«e«t correKporidents desiring in* 
forniRti«»n on family matters of only privaU? intereBt 
to srtix tlieir names and addre.«wes to thoir <^uerie«, 
in order that answers may l>e sent to them direct. 

John Newbery's Grave. — Could any 
of your readers tell me where John New- 
bcr>% the publisher, who died in 1767, ia 
buried ? Oliver Goldsmith WTote the follow- 
ing riddling epitaph upon him : — 
\^^mt we say of a thing that has jn^t come in 

And that which we do with the dead. 
Is the name uf the linne!!itt':«it titiin in the nation : 

What niorti of a man can be said T 
Is this epitaph upon Xewbery's grave ? 

Percy E. Nkwberry. 

40, Bedford Street, Liverpool. 


autumn a monumental brass W8» dug up 
in the parish of Fivehead, o. Somerset, 
whicdi is of considerable interest on both 
sides. The later face bears the effig>' of a 
lady attired in early Eliiabethau fashion. 
The inscription has not yet been recovered, 
but from the heraldry it appecu** that she 
w^as Jane, daughter and heirosa of Sir Jolm 
Walali, Kt., of Cathanger, and wife of Lord 
Edward Seymour, of Bcrrj' Pomeroj', eldest 
surviving son of the Duke of Somerset, Lord 
Protector, by hia first marriage. Tljo 
length of the brass is 3 ft. 6 in. ; it is in six 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. jan. 12, 1907. 

pieces. When the underside liad been 
cleaned, it was found that several brasses 
had been utilized to make up the size re- 
quired. The two appOT pieces contain a 
transverse section of an ecclesiastic taken 
across the breast, the uplifted hands being 
held together as in prayer. The figure must 
have been of gigantic size. This section is 
not large enou^n to show clearly the cha- 
racter of the attu-e ; it is traversed by several 
narrow fillets enclosing a pellet between a 

r trefoil and a rosette alternately. The 
d piece contains a perpendicular section 
of tabernacle work enclosing a pair of small 
figures, either Apostles or prophets. On 
the outer margin are the words qve find 
viKRNES in letters exactly resembling those 
on the brass of Abbot Thos. Delamere of 
St. Albans {v. illustration in H. Druitt's 
* Costimie in Brasses,' p. 46). 

The small section engraved with the lady's 
toes bears on the reverse : **.... Gilbertus 
Thombem nuper rector .... qxii obiit un- 
decimo Mali Mccccxxvm " 

1. What is the meaning of the first in- 
scription ? 2. Of what parish was Gilbert 
Thombem rector ? E. H. Bates. 

Puckington Rectory, Ilminstor. 

GouLTON Brass. — At 6 S. ii. 168 (28 Aug., 
1880) the following query appeared : — 

" In the • Hiatory of Cleveland,' by the Rev. J. 
Graves, written in 1808, mention is made of a brass 
once in Faceby Church to the memory of 8ir Lewis 
(Toulton, which brass, ho says, was, at the time that 
he wrote, in the itossession of Christonher (roulton, 
of Highthom, near Kasingwold. With the death of 
this Christo])])er (ioulton, in 1816, that branch of 
the Goulton family became extinct. He died with- 
out a will, and uji to the present time I have been 
unable to vet any information conceniing the brass 
8i)oken of by Mr. (Graves. Can you assist me in any 
way?— J. (Goulton Constable." 

This query was apparently never answered, 
and I should like to repeat it, in the hope 
that some information may now be forth- 
coming, as since 1880 much has been written 
upon the subject of brasses, and there is 
hardly a county in England where brasses 
have not received more or less attention. 
In what county is Faceby ? 

Stewart Fiske. 

Mobile, Ala., U.S.A. 

[Faceby is in the North Riding of Yorkshire.] 

Wordsworth's Primrose. — I shall be 

glad if you will be good enough to explain 

to me tne meaning of Wordsworth's lines : — 

A primrose by the river's brim 

A yellow primrose was to him. 

And it was nothing more. 

I have had an argument as to what was 

meant by the lines, and shall be grateful if 
you will give their meaning. R. Elub. 

[The meaning is surely that the sight of a ptto- 
rose to Peter suggested no thought— did not umet 
him in any way. He simply saw that it wi» 
"yellow" (you miB<iuoted your second Ime). 
Wordsworth has himself expressed his own feeliogi- 
in such a case, as follows : — 

To me the meanest flower that blows can give 
Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears. 
Ode, * Intimations of Immortality. 
He says also in ' The Tables Turned ' :— 
One impulse from a vernal wood 
May teach jrou more of man. 
Of moral evil and of good. 
Than all the sages can.] 

Mrs. Moore's * Modern Pilgrim's TbO' 
ORESS.' — In 1882 Mrs. Bloomfield Mooce. 
of Philadelphia, privately printed a 12mO 
volume of 105 pages, which contains, with 
other thiuM, ' A Chapter from the Modem 
Pilgrim's Progress.' This chapter is tlma 
prefaced : — 

" The proof-sheet* of the following pages, in tba 
year 187», fell into the hands of one of the molt! 
brilliantly talented young authors in England. Tto 
author of them had never heard anything of tto 
young writer's family, but he had a widowed motMr 
with six children, and after reading this chapteria 
the proof-sheet*, and finding much that was mfff*- 
tive of exi^eriencea in his own family, he fancied » 
had been written to lay these exiierienoes bare to 

the public He went to John Morley, editor of 

The Fortnightly Rerien^, and accused him of havnf 
written this chapter to expose him. His mind b^ 
came more and more unsettled, and learning tMfr 
the (real) author of ' The Modern Pilgrim's Pro- 
gress ' was to sail from Livcri>ool, Nov. 27, 18T9, h» 
told his family that this was an intimation he W»» 
to die on that day. At the hour on which ti» 
ocean steamer left the whart" he shot himself.*' 
Can any reader give me the name of tlii» 
young man ? The intimate relation betweeO 
Mrs. Moore and Browning will be recalled. 
The dedicatory poem of this volume is " T» 
my Friend Robert Browning." 

Dewitt Milubb. 


GoDFERY. — I sliall be pleased if any oi 
your readers can supply me with inf ormatiof 
respecting the ancestors, descendants, aatf 
birthplace of Michael Godfery, Deputg 
Governor of the Bank of England in 1696. 

F. God PERT. 

2, Morton Crescent, Exmouth. 

ViNiNO Famlly.— Is it known whethei 
Henry Vining, the father of Mrs. John Wood, 
was related to Frederick Vining cuid tc 
James Vining ? What relation was Williao 
Vining (if any), the actor, to these Vining? 1 
The * D.N.B.' notes that IYederick*s daughtei 
Fanny was Mrs. GiU; but DavenpoCi 

m Jan. j2. 1907] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

nns*s ' Dictionary of the Drama ' states 
Fanny inarrieci E. L. Davenport, the 
■lean actor. Wliich statement is cor- 
or «» both right ? 

J. M. Bulloch. 

( Pown Deum adjutorkm meum," — I 

do^iA to know the origin of this legend, 

oi coins of Edward JIL and 

t*8dors. It ifl usual, 1 think, 

lit r:^alra liv, 4; but in the only 

ble at hand tlie wording of that 

Eccie enim Beus adjuvat me," 

la very dififerent. 


[CJUAKA. — Wmild one of your readers 
knows hia Bewick'* kindly inform 
where Htnnj Ivingaley's referenc*^ to 
Bewick's work are to be found ? 
quoted in Austin Dolwons * Eigli- 
i-Ontury Vignettes* on Bowick's tail- 
l^ftt&, VVhttk Lr>fE. 

rXLUCKY FOR IClNGS. — ls\ The 
rgh Review for last October an article 
lina. Queen of Sweden, contains tlie 
[ patii^age :— 

tion, whif'h occurred aix years after 
Akeii the iiaUj a* •Kiii?r ' »>f Swe<)eri, 

_ thai, rulefft oiowjitMl at .Stuokh'crhn 
1 hut ik ehort time.'' 

jer towni? are supposed to be con- 
';th the ill luck of monarchs ? 

G. W. 

a CopiN": '^St. Coppik."— Who 

pr-rsnnavte. raentionetl in the 
and Towneloy Plays ? In the latter 
»»ay6 to .lewua: — 

^ii ill <mre gamo/ thus *\Ui\\ I indew the, 
: a ffiiiir. 

former " bo aeatt Coppym " is used 
i]d form of oatlu H. P. L. 

•^" V AND Maryland. — 

' d if any person having 

I .;iL' settlement of Mary- 

> say whether the name 

V (M«»n of Hew Kennedy^ 

1 1x1, and if so, whether 

ao aluo mentioned. 

C. M. K. 

Iv other 

l^-z ^'^-ns" 

irO^idiiod '•) in uon 

* .;ai of 

Hollingborne, Kent, to the memory of 
Baldwin Duppa, 1737, and that on a tabtft 
at Cuekfield, Sussex, to the memory of 
Daniel Walter. 1761. J. H. C. 

" EsLYNOTON " : Islington. — Machyn in 
his • Diary ' records (' The Diary of Hemy 
Machyn,' Camden Society, 1848,* p. G3) : — 

" 1554. The xv. day of May Haknay nrosaea- 
fyon to PoM'les: and after cam aeut Clement* 
|irosBesHyon ; and the Mayre and Althermen ; and 
ther wher go<xlly quersjie wyivring, 

" Tho xvj. day of May cam to PowUes Kalyngton 

*• Eslyngton " ia preeuniably Machyn'a 
phonetic rendering of laUngton. Doea it 
occur in this form elsewhere ? J. Gough 
Nichols, who edited the volume, does not 
attempt its identification, or include it in 
either form in the index. 

The •* prosaeesyon '* waa that of Corpus 
Christi, although 'the day of celebration was 
24 May, when '* ther mony goodly pr(os8)es8- 
yons in mony porrj'ches," For " quersse " 
read choirs — not ** quires." as the editor 
renders it. Aleck Abbahams. 

:». HilUnarton Road. N, 

Jerusalem CottRT, Fleet Street.— 
Can any reader tell me where the above 
was situated ? John Willis published Jus 
' Art of Stenography ' in 1002. It was the 
first alphabetic system. Noble in hia 
' Temple Bar Memorials ' speaks of a Jeru- 
salem "ordinary" in 1028. The Bagford 
Collection contains the following :— 

"John WilliH, B.D., he nut forth a Book he calls 
the Art of St«not;raphit>, he Maith it wan the tirat 
[UGl] of Umt naUirn he dwelt in Jerusalem Court in 
lIHwt Street tho 19**' Edition UJ28."— Lausdowno 
MS. SIX. f. 15. 

Hi21. "John WiUis, B. of I)., he put forth A 
Bonke he calls ye Art of Steuonraithy he saith y' 
was y* tii-at of that nature he dwelt in Jeruwilem 
Court in flet 8tre«tt y« 19^ Edition 16*28. "—From 
Sloane MS. 885, f. 25. 

Most Shakesperian commentators assert 
that the early quartos were produced from 
shorthand notes taken in the theatre at the 
time of representation. The ' D.N.B.' (art. 
John Wdlis) doea not state where Jerusalem 
Court was. Arber quotes the Stationers' 
Regi-ster re John Willifl. So far as can be 
aaeertamed, the only reference to where he 
" dwelt " is in the above extracts. A diary 
(1607) in Willis's shorthand is in America; 
and Trumbull has given an extract. 

Matthias Levy. 
45, Cham^ei'y Lane. 

Reynolds's Portraits op Miss Grb- , 
v^L,LE. — Northcot© in hisii ' Life of Sir Josht 
Reynolds/ published in 18 16, luetLUotxA Vive 


NOTES AND QUERIES, oo a vil jan. 12. i«7. 

portraits of Miaa Greville and her brother 
as Cupid and Paychet and stat^ that one 
Mvaa then in the posaeaeion of Mr. C. Long* 
and the other in that of Mr- S, Rogers. 
Can any one inform nie where these pictureB 
are now ? H, W. 

Bound ABIES and Humorous Incidents. ~ 
Can any readers help me with curious [}lacea 
through which the boundaiy lines of parishes* 
counties, and even countries run, and with 
any humorous incidents which have been 
caused by them ? Mr. W. S. Gilbert, it 
will be remembered, made use of such a fact 
in * Engaged.' Rudolph de Cordova. 

Co9LKTT.-^Can any reader help me to 
the derivation of this surname ? It is not 
uncommon in South-East Glamorgan, I can 
derive no assiBtanco from books, 

Abxhuk Mee. 


' Abmy List/ 1642. — There is a copy of 
the 1642 '* Roundliead " Army List in the 
British Mtiseum. Is it the same copy as 
that mentioned by Mr. Hayes^ 10 S. vi. 
342 T The " Cavalier " Army List of 1642 
is ^Bo in the same Ubrajy. I have not seen 
Mb. Hayks's coramumcation in The Book- 
-worm for 1861. M. J. D. Cocki^. 

Walton -qn-ThAroes. 

CAMBBmoE Uniteesity Chance LtOB, 
1842. — Would any of your readers who 
pofisess, or can obtain access to, a Cambridge 
University Calendar for 1843» inform me 
who was installed Chancellor in July, 184^ ? 
Family letters show me that a Ctiancellor 
was installed then. A post card addressed 
aa below would be quite sufficient. 

W. K. W. Chafy. 

BouH Lenoh Court, Eveshain. 

QuBEH Victoria of Spain: Name-Day. 
— ^In the papers of 24 December last it was 
mentioned that Queen Victoria of Spain 
had been present at a banquet on her 
name-day. As she has abjured the faith 
in which she waa bom, it cannot have been 
her baptismal day as an infant ; nor is it 
the anniversary of her reception into the 
Koman Church. Is it the day of St. Vic- 
toria t or in what way can it have been her 
" name-day " T Heloa. 

Barbadoes : BABBYDOYS.—In the Cata- 
logue of Ancient Deeds at the P.R.O. I 
notice (p. 66), 18 Ed. IV., mention of the 
manors of Little Carleton of mis Barbydoya 
in Carleton <co. Cambridge), l& the asso- 
laanco with Barbadoes merely accidental T 

E. L,-W. 


(lOS. vi. 481.) 

This old mumming play, which Mb. D. A. 
Chart finds surviving in the lale of Wi|^ 
and which Lady Russell stat-es (10 8. v. 
155) is still rendered in Berkshire, is notbf 
any means confined to the south of England. 
Five-and-twenty years ago a manned 
version of it used to be performed in ths 
villages of south-west Lancashire ; and it » 
still to be met with in Cumberland, and I 
believe in parts of rural Yorkshire. But ill 
Cumberland at least there is this important 
difference : it is an Easter play, and il 
known as the " pace " or " peace e^ **— 
this name» of couJ'se, being a corruption of 
the paschal egg. 

It is well known that the Easter custom 
of distributing eggs is much older than 
Christianity, and is really symbolical of 
creation or the re-creation of apring^a 
season celebrated in all times and all countiies 
with ceremonies that, from once being of • 
religious character — like midsummer and 
harvest time — now survive only in the fofltt 
of rollicking gatneg and ^Tillage mummeriei* 
The Dionyaian dramas of ancient Greece 
celebrated* the same season, and were con- 
nected with the worship of the god of vege- 
tation or generation. 

One of the oldest of the old mystery pUffi 
of tlus country is that of * St. George and the 
Dragon,' which was probably grafted on to 
some earlier \'illage drama celebrating th* 
coming of spring. Eastern characters wett 
probably introduced in the davs of the 
Crusades ; and in later times all sorts w 
heterogeneous characters — Bonaparte, NcJ* 
son, and the like — have been added, acoorf- 
ing to taste and circumstances. ^ 

1 have three versions of this ** Pace egg 
play, which were written out for me oy 
schoolcliildren in Cumberland during 1895^ 
and considering that there is, so far aajt 
know, no properly transcribed " book 0* 
the words," but that it is handed down fro** 
generation to generation by word of mootb* 
it is not a little remarkable to find ho^ 
closely these Cumberland versions reseml^ 
that quoted by Mb. Chart from the Isle d 
Wight. . 

The dramatis persons are King (or Si>j 
G^rge; the Black King of Moroooos 
Molly Masket, liis mother; Bold SImImI 
(the Noble Captain of the Isle of WigM 
vcffaion« and probably ajiother of the SafVM 

vn. Jan. 12, 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Awl m>e our • 
If you dout 

it'tttl the woy. 

■ . Ir, ^ 

- 1, lirctil C«eorge ; 
1. iii»me. 

11 of «olcJ, 

iut{hter { 

M' j<riy«> 

Champions of Christendom) ; a Doctor ; 
a Fool or Hunchback ; Lord Nelson ; and 
Another who is sometimes described ets a 
" jolly Jack Tar " and sometiines as " Paddy 
from Cork " (atiroly St. Patrick 1). 
^The Hunchback, clearing a ring* specdcs 
first : — 

Stir tti> the tire and utrikca light* 



W r 

And h 
Anil hv 
The Kiu^ 

Then enters the King of Morocco : — 

In Htt'ii.s I, Prii" • '•'.idiue. 
The l.lritk Mi. 

With •-VI ml ,ii 
1 tlln . 



I 11 

I Uu 


To whicw .. 

Minoc j>ii\i III 
I'll KiMid Hit. . 

ilayn old. 

Thej' fight, auad the black king is killed. 
Enter Molly Maaket (not Father Christmas) : 

O (it?«>ryt». (» i;r«or?r«?. what Last thou done! 

Thxi ! ' 1 , tinly son, 


Ho« t'leediMK there? 

K. fffotsft. He LihAtiengwl me to tight, 
And whv should I dc»t»y r 
I*U tnH iiis IkmIv m iuut- i»«rtst 
And niAko Juj; Ituttons dy. 

A doctor is then called for, and a long dia- 
logue ensues between him and Iving George. 
He discourses of hia travels 
from flint ii» to the Tallyantio [AtkutioJ OoeAn ; 
ninety «ltv«w* IkjIow the hoitoni: whore I saw 
houiHi* built of rounds of bwf, alatcd with i>an' 
eakvM, A:r. 

" Any fui'ther ! " inqxiiree the King. 

Yf», fi'iiii luv vt iiiiliituf lici'ij 1>e<l tothe fftairhead 

: from the uhair^ 
'' I got 8o muoh 

><>>•;, MiHci; iiiaKiL's inu 80 Tat AOd luSty 

t ly ray side 
do ring. 

■!— ••■-' -Tod; 

, (Jeorge, 


u miitoepiea. 

lire tjiou'tf throe 

,t t,.lLi 

nil ItMin, 

X*n> "un' \r.* iiring iwoniy om, 


liU man, 

. .-..- „.'at, 

The black prince of Morocco is resuBcitated, 
and the play proper comes to a premature 
end, the rest being mere jingle — '* The next 
to come in is Lord Nelson, you see, with a 
bunch of blue ribbons tied on to his knee," 
i&c. ; and the Fool or Hunchback, a& Choros* 
winds up with the usual appeal : — 

Ladies and gentlemen who sit by the fire. 

Put your hands in your iKx;kt5t» ivnd show your 

Put your handft in your jiookets and pull out your 

And give ua a trifle : you 'U not be much worse. 
Here we all are, aevcu in a row, 
As jolly like fellows as ever you saw ; 
8o mind what you're doing And see that all's 

If you give nowt, wo 'U take nowt. 
Fare well and good night ! 

F. GrOBDON BaowN. 

The title * The Cliristmas Boys ' for the 
mmnmers* play of ' St. George ' is perhaps 
new to most of the contributors to * Jh. dfc Q.'; 
but all will welcome Mb. Chart's new 
version, if auch it may be called, which ia 
in many ways much like the old, though 
differing in the words in several places. 
The actors* dresses were of a most nondo- 
script kind, though all wore tall tapering 
head-dresses of cardboard. The King, the 
Prince, and St. George had plimies of two 
or three colours, and from their shoulders 
and waist were streamers of the hke colours. 
Slasher's dress was more of the swash- 
buckler's order^ and he had a seedy look all 
over. Their coats and trousers were deco- 
rated with patches of various sizes and 
colours ; they carried swords and belt- 
knives. The Doctor was somewhat more 
soberlv dressed, and he carried a staff, and 
sometimes had a bottle slung at his waist. 
Usually there were three or four others— 
coimnoa soldiers — having long staves in 
their hands ; but each wore the same kind 
of hat, with streamers at the waist only. 
Their share in the performance was to march 
in with the actors, help in the finishing 
chorus, end march out ; but while the play 
went on they stood in line at the back. 

The way in wliich the play was presented 
varied very much. If the room was largo 
enough, all the performers walked in with 
the Fool at the head. If the room WM 
small, the Fool came first, sajing : — 
If I eomen I, who hnvf never b«f«n Wftire, 
With mv m»*rrv if^tor* at the diwr : 

And «n:"e tioa tiolilf *t»-'l to utj^llU. 

If yon don't Iwlitny the wordw I wy, 

.Step in, bt. Irwurge, and cloar the way. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, do s. vil jak. u^ i 

8t. Otorgt. la comee I, St. G«orge ; 
For old England have I won many bloody battles. 
I did in Egyi't the Dragon slew, 
And manv i>eox)le know that to be true. 
If you will search thia world all round, 
Tou will never find another mMi to match my mind. 
Another veraion begins : — 

I ope the door and enter in : 

I hope your favour for to win. 

Whether I rise or whether I fall, 

I '11 do my best to please you all ; 

St. George is here, 

And swears that he '11 come in, 

And if he does 

I know he'll pinch my skin. 
The braggart Sla«her in one of the Derby- 
shire versions I have heard boasts : — 

My head is made of brass, 

My body's made of steel, 

My hands are made of knuokle-bone. 

And I can make him feel 
The only printed version I know is one 
issued in Manchester by Abel Heywood, in 
which the Fool comes first, saying : — 
Room, room, brave gallants, gives us room to sport, 
For in this room we wish to have our court ; 
And here re])eat to you our merry rhyme. 
For remember, good sirs, this is Easter-time. 

The finishing lines of several versions I 
have heard are very mixed. They are said 
either by Betsy Beelzebub or Devil Doubt. 
Betsy says : — 

AH ye ladies and gentlemen 
That sit round the fire, 
My box it would siioak 
If it hofl but a tongue ; 

A little of your money would do us no wrong. 
Devil Doubt's ending is : — 

Money I want, money I '11 have ; 
If you won't give me money, 
I '11 sweep you to the grave. 
The rough speech of the actors can hardly 
be reproduced. Thos. Ratclifpe. 


This play is, or was a few years ago, 
performed at Newland, in Gloucestershire. 

R. B— B. 

South Shields. 

BroDiNG Pbaybb (10 S. vi. 448).-~The 
earliest Bidding Prayer of which I have 
knowledge is included in the late Canon 
Simmons's • Lay-Folks Mass-Book,' issued 
l>y the E.E.T.S. It was heard at York 
t>efore the Norman conquest, and it began 
with "Wutan we gebiddan," which the 
)ditor modernized mto " Let us pray." 
^ example dated 1406 opened with " De- 
3recemur Deum Patrem omnipotentem/* 
md had '* Ye sail pay " at the head of most 
A its clauses. About fifty years later, 
* Der frendes, ye sail make a speoall prayer/' \ 

is recorded. There was also a veraioawltk 
**We shaU"; and in 1509 "We ■hdl'* i» 

Cted in the * Manoale secundum v&sm 
ris Eoolesie Eboraoeiuis * (see pp. 0fi-4l)> 
At present it is the uw of York tfaafc Hm 
preacher should say " Ye shall pray.'* tbi 
Bidding does not now run precisely like ti» 
version given by Canon wmmons in 1871 
(p. 320); and it has at one part beea 
judiciously lengthened hy remenibTaiice of 
the officers and men of His Majesty's ian» 
*' in and around " the ancient city. 

There are three pitfalls for the uuwai]^ 
in the pulpit of York Minster, and it » 
astonishing to find how many strange^ or 
perhaps I should say stranger, divines dip 
into one or more of them, without beins ik 
all aware of their misfortune. The faithM 
are commanded to pray for the Cathoir 
Church, '* especially for that branch oi it 
to which we in this kingdom belong and 
herein for our Most Gracious Sovereign 
Lord, King Edward," and many othen» 
Veiy frequently the reader interpolates ft 
period after " herein " with startling effect 
Occasionally, ** this metropolitical (^urch " 
fiffures as ** metropolitan ' ; and once in ft 
while somebody finds a stumblinff-block in. 
** William Dalrynvplet Lord Archbishop d. 
this Province," or makes mention of the 
Prince and Princes of Wales, instead of the 
Princess. The summons to pra^ for a 
blessing on seats of sound learmng and 
religious education, the universities, collegeB^ 
and schools of the United Kingdom, *' par- 
ticularly on the Grammar School attaohed 
to this Cathedral Church," has in it a sug- 
gestion of bathos, for drawing attention t(> 
which I hope I may be forgiven. 

St. SwiTHnv. 

In ' Loss and Gain ; or, the Story of ft^ 
Convert,' chap, ii., by Cardinal Newmaiv 
we read : — 

"Sheffield said 'Now I must say the seniMO 

itself, and not the least of all the prayer before it" 
what do they call it ? ' 

" 'The Bidding Prayer,' said Reding. 

" • Well, both sermon and prayer are often axrsot^ 
fudge. I don't often go to University sermons, hot 
I have fcone often enough not to go again witooofr 
compulsion. The last preacher I heard was fros 
the oountry. Oh, it was wonderful ! He began a^ 
the pitch of his voice "Ye shall pray." What stnffj 
"Ye shall pray" beoause old Latimer or Jewell said 
" Ye shall praie," therefore we must not say ** Let tf 

F. E. K. Poixasd-Urqubabt. 

Castle Pollard, Westmeath. 

In the 'Apostolical Constitirtlons,* si»- 
posed to have been oampiled during m 
second and third cen iairiw , the prayor for 

JO 8. VII. jA,N. 12, 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Competentes begins, '* Pray, ye candi^ 
^ for baptism ' ; and that for the 
litenta, *' Pray, ye penitents." But tlie 
jidding iiroj'er for the faltliful, when the 
eiiitents iiave been dismissed* begins, 
' Let us pray/' &c. : " Let us pray for the 
loly, CatJiohc, and Apostolic Church from 
end [of the earth] to the other, that the 
ord would preserve and keep it firm and 
unshaken, aa founded upon a rock, unto 
the end of the world." Vide * Prosphonesis ' 
Riddle's ' Christian Antiquities/ 1843, 
ftp. 382. 400-0. ami 612; also Smith's 
lUliristian Antiquities,' 1880, e.v, * Pro&- 
ionesis,' pp. 1738-9. 


Split lN'Fi?nTt\Tc in Milton (10 S, vi. 
99, 473). — I have made* a careful reading 
Mil ton's poetry for the purpose of observ- 
; eharacterisities of diction, but my task did 
^ot r»>Hult in the discovery of any example 
of this notorious form. I doubt its exist- 
ence in any of his works. Perhaps the in- 
quiry ha« arihon tf trough confusion with 
regard to some popular pwt of our own day. 
■ W. B. 

W *The Canadux Girl' (10 S. \i. 448).— 
No such books as ' The Canadian Girl ' or 
• The Jew'i* Daughter ' are known to Engli-sh 
bibhograpJicrs. I am not able to find either 
in our national library under the above titles. 

• Ralfh Thomas. 

Victor Hugo's Property ix Enolantj 
(ID 8. vi. 488).— The ad%ice to a son as to 
etting xnoney, and the quotation from 
lorace mentioned, remind one of a jingle 
►Wch (?) nnre formed part of a popular 
Dng ' J rich quickly : — 

IV «nn, jft iitntifv ff you can, 
'/« fon can. 

, It. 

R. S. B. 

Thk Admirable Crichton (10 S. vi. 4fi5). 
-Mr, Peet may like to know that there 
py (printed by Zileti in 1580) of 
'y\ challenge in Shrewsbury' Public 
.i. 1830, StH« T. F. Dibdin'B ' Remi- 
niaoMices of a Literarj' Life/ London, 1836, 
8vtH P- 988. However, it may have been 
the |»iv«te nronerty of the head master, 
Arcihd«acon Butler, aa J>ibdin is too long- 
winded to be prpcise. J. OaBTOK, 
Cfaq;'* Iitns Lmmry, DuhUn. 

**OvBi ro»K: rowc ovEa " (10 S. vi. 

. who«e arms display 
.. u freid argent. Nisbet 

has the following as to tlie origin of the 
motto and arms : — 

"Ft V^obasnan, a Norwegian aotl a very 

eouti ! I Itjgist, MToto a Maimiscriiit (now iu 

The I^.. ., ... j.ibrar>') of Uie rise of some fftmilk»f» 
with U8, amongst whom is that of the (.\inniiiB- 
hams. whose lirst progenitor he oa\U Malcolm 
the Hon of Friskine, who a«»i«te4i Prince MAlcolm 
(aftcrwartis kinK> suniained Oanmore) tn emajw 
from Mat;l)cth's tyranny; and being hotly imnmed 
by the iisurijer"» men, was forced at u [tlaee to hide 
his master by forking strriw or Imv iil»<«ve him ; and 
after, »jK»n that Pri . ' the 

crown, he rewarded I the 

tlmiieclom of Uunnin_.. . . I hia 

lioat<?rity have their suruauue, and look thiis ttuure 
to rejtie-sent the shakefork with whioh he forked 
hay or straw above the Prince, t^» i)«T|H!tuate tl»© 
happy deliverolK^e their progenitor had tJ»e n«»od 
fortune to give to their Prince.' —' Herjtldry.' i. 192. 
Herbert ^Lwxwell. 

The arms are probably those of Sir 
Thontaft Montgomery Cuninghame (Arg., a 
shake-fork aa. ; in cliief a crf»scent ax.), 
whose motto is " Over fork over." 

The following appears in Sir Bernard 
Burke's * Peerage ana Baronetage ' : — 

"Van Ba^ien, in hi.^ 'History of the Kinca of 
Scotland,' f«tato«that this family i« desioended from 
one Mttleolni, !»tm of Kr^^kin, whf». whrii Priner 
Malcolm iled fr ' " ' ' V ' 

tht.* murder of 

troni his puisu; . , . .; ^ ..... > ' ' 

him : and for this service Knijt .Mnllc«)hu. aitrr his 
restoration, conferred the thniiedom of Cuning- 
hame upon his preserver," 


Hiltield. YaUdey, Hants. 

See * A Short View of the Families of the 
Soottisli Nobility,* by Mr. Sahnon, 1759. 
p. 48. y. HoLDEW MacMichael. 

IT. F. X). and A. K. alwi thanketl for rephea,) 

•* Omne bonum Dei doncm'* (10 S. vi, 
448), — See 1 Tim. iv. 4 and James i. 17. 

W. D. Macray. 

This is probably a contraction, in motto 
form, of James L 17 : " Oinne datum 
optimum ei omne donuni perfectum desur- 
sum est de»cend«ns a Pat re." 

Fhaxcis Kino, 

Thia motto, " Ever>- p<^'>'' tinrMj ih from 
God,"" is borne by the old f n > lughton, 

now represented by the li ughtona, 

baronets, of Downton Hall, Ludlow, ^alop. 
Richard Welforo, 
[Mr. Hou>kn MAi-'MniiAXL also refers to Jamefl. I 

Bell-Horsks (10 S. x-i. 460). — Perhaps a 
few words on this subjc<-* ♦-■•" --m. ^^f^U 
acquainted v^-ith tba 8iiflB«>.N '> 

may not be unaoQCBliilft w '■ ^^^ 


"fifties of last centaxy most of the farm 
teams had bells. They hung on a metal 
frame fixed on the hames — three or four 
bells on each horse. Their sound was cheer- 
ful, and very useful on unlighted roads and 
in narrow lanes. Bells went out of use in 
the sixties. 

As children we ran races, and we were 
steoted with the words. 

Bell-horses, bell-horses, what time of day ? 
One o'clock, two o'clock, three, and away ! 

At the last word we were off. 

John P. Stilwbli* 
Hilfield, Yateley. 

In parts of Kent beUs are still carried on 
special occasions, as when the first load of 
hops is taken to the railway, or when on a 
journey beyond the immediate home dis- 
"trict. The bells are in wooden boxes, open 
below, and fixed to the top points of the 
liames. Four, or five of the smaller ones, 
go to a box, and three horses are needed to 
•carry a whole set of from thirteen to fifteen. 
They are the property of the waggoners 
■(not of the farmers), and most of them are 
supposed to have been won in contests or 
given at some special time (such as com- 
pletion of twenty-five years* service for one 
^master) in " the good old days." I am told 
that no new ones have been acquired for 
many years, which seems a pity, for I know 
nothing that sounds more charmingly rural 
than the bells of a fine team, wallang over 
a firm road in the first crisp of autumn: 
as one may hear them around Brenchley, 
Horsmonden, Cranbrook, or the Farleigl^ 
and even, sometimes, at Tonb ridge. 

H. Snowden Wabd. 

Hadlow, Kent. 

Localities Wanted (10 S. vi. 430). — 
All the houses mentioned in the query are 
" hospitals." Items 1 and 6 and probably 
12, are lazar-houses. Item 7 is a "poor 

I am afraid I cannot give any definite 
'information. I suggest, however, that, 
with regard to item 2, as the Hospitcd of 
St. Laurence is said in the Patent Roll to 
have been at Chippenham, Wilts, it may 
have occupied the site known as Monkton 
there ; with regard to item 3, as the Knights 
Hospitallers possessed lands at Chilcombe, 
Dorset, perhaps the " Hospital of St. John 
the Baptist at Clelecombe" was situate 
-there emd belonged to them; with regard 
to item 5, as the Hospit€tl of St. Mary, Hare- 
ford, possessed lands at Stakeston, Yorks 
ii.e., meeamahly Staxton, near Willerby, 
inear Mull), Hareford is more likely to be , 

NOTES AND QUERIES, uo s. vi l jan. la; m 

Hartford (Cheshire) than Harford (Devon) 
or Hereford or Hertford. With r^rd to 
items 6 and 8, according to TamMri, 
'Notitia Monasdca' there was ftV"2!' 
house about two rnHes from Oxbofonpil 
on the road to Cookley C!ley before you CMI^ 
to Langwade Cross (I have been unable to 
verify the reference to Blomefield's * Nor- 
folk ') ; and I would note that in the *ClL 
Papal Letters,' iv. 407, mention is made ot 
the chapel of St. Mary the Virgin at Monek^ 
Lanrford, Norfolk. With regard to ito^l 
the lazar-house in question was at the end 
of a bridge. There are Beightons in Dertf- 
shire and Norfolk, and, I believe, one ne* 
Sheffield existed ; and there is a Beyton m 
Suffolk. Has one of these j^aces an anoieaft 
bridge ? John B. Wainewbiohi. 

Byron's ' Don Juan * (10 S. vL 369, 478). j 
— If I am not very much mistaken, thii 
quotation marks are quite justified. Thi 
passage and incident is to be found, I believt^ 
in the introduction or in the notes of oneoi 
the Waverley Novels. I have seen it dor^; 
the last four or five years, but cannot \rm 
now find it again. Wm. H. Pbbt. 

Musical Composers as Pianists (10 8. 
vL 490). — I can at once think of two grei* 
composers who did not, and oould no^ 
play the piano: Loiiis Spohr and HeofecC 
Berlioz. William H. Cumminos. 

Je me souviens entre autres exempki 
et bien typique celui-l&, que Berlioz n*l 
jamais pu jouer sur le piano. Ct i* 
' M^moires ' (Charpentier eiditeur), oil i 
raconte que, lors de sa tourn6e en Ruam 
il provoqua certains doutes touchant sol 
identit<6, pour avoir d6clar6 son ignoraooi 
sur le piano. 

Au Conservatoire (Paris) Ton dit coureoi' 
ment d'un mauvais executant, " H jom 
comme un compositeur." 

En composant Berlioz s'aidait d'ntf 
fliite. Dans les * M6moires * il cite d'aatm 
compositeurs aussi inhabiles que lui. 

P. A. a 

* Death and the Sinner ' (10 S. vi. 388| 
436, 473).— At St. Swithin's reauest I htm 
much pleasure in sending for the coluxnoi 
of ' N. & Q.* tiie following five verses <A 
' Death and the Sinner,' which I have beai 
successful in getting through a friend frotf 
the village of Ulsta, in the island of Yel 
An elderly woman, also bom in Yell, bn* 
now residing in Lerwick, informs me thlt 
many years ago an acquaintance wrote ort 
from memory for her a copy which oonsiftod 
of many verses. Unfortunately, the wfi 

10 8. viL Jaji. 12, 19070 NOTES AND QUERIES. 

«Jterwards was lent, and was never returued. 
If I com© acrosa any further informtttion 
relatinc to * Death and the Sinner,' I shall 
•certainly send it to * X, tV Q.* for the benefit 
of St. Snvitiiin or any other rnader who may 
.l>e interested in it : — 

■' I » siniHT • I tH.iiM' Kl- H.>,>i..i.'a decree^ 

I riiH vi-ry fi];j;iit i', <■! 

r no, 

tlioit taiixi ^j," 

" Ah, phn»4tlv fV'Jifli ♦ Siit thf>n lor*k'«t ftale. 

U Dcvath ! have nicrey on oiy »kc», 
And BiAre nie y(i?t uimhi thin stage ; 
F(ir I urn jtist a rtowcr iti bloom. 
And wUt thou cut me down w aoon ? " 

'* VoiiTh or T ,,.4, 

Kilt if you ! f| 

You'll .««; il , ,.....«i_^lif. 

VVhtnii 1 havp mudo my UwTul jtrey." 

"O Death ! no nuTcv wilt thou show, 
But unto Jrsui* will I go, 
Who ros^- triiiiniihaiit (rum th© gnive, 
A yiiilly wrotoh Ukp mc to save. 

Thomas Mathewsoj?. 
4. (irccttitivid Plttc<?, Lerwiok. ShctUnd, 

Attthobs op Qcotatioss Wanted (10 S. 

M. 489).— 

The maiden** (Kd%ht, tU«» ohapcron'H four, 
I regret not being able to givts the« reference 
aaked for bv Siu Ai 1 wile, and perhaps the 
«pa«»Dy J >rslup at the time 

George Wir and I used to meet 

in the Vale oi \V lute Horse may be considered 
too aketohy to warrant my having given the 
name of my friend aa the author. 

Hakold Malet, Col. 
With respect to the question raised by 
Sib Aftable and the editorial not« thereon, 
I may aay that the lines aj>rmar as follows 
in chap. ii. of Wl»yte-Mch jlle a novel * Good 
for Notliing ' : — 

Thr rl»n»«r»l'iK firlipht nrd the rhftjirrono'B foAr, 
^ ^ ruen ; 

'' vh! n y«mr, 

, ten. 

The novelij^t it* mot ,n fast young 

men. and i«i..ML^ < .. as being 

*'the mo<li ton of a 

promiaing ., ^ . ,. . . . tf-Melville 

would §urely not mri>r to ImnMlf m t\n^ wav, 
and 1 should coxuuder it very improbable 
iliat ho W9B their author. 

JoHH T. Paob. 

-^ *S ^^'^ aathor of the lines on clouds 

Willi tQver llnirikT"*. T fnav H^y that the 
'qtiOt4rti(>o. 1 gjy,^ eornes 

g«a 'VwtK- ^M^/ by Ellen 

Thorneycroft FnMler, iir^t publmht-d in 
1895, Bnd reissued about a \ • ur ati.i \<\ Mfs^ry. 
Caaaell Jc Co. The po».'m iJit-y are taken 
from 13 called ' The Wisdom of Folly.' 

As my wife is constantly receiving letters 
about these lines, and as they are printed 
(without name or acknowledgment) in at 
least one collection of verse, I may perhaps 
be allowed to quote the stanza in full : — 

Thouj?h outwardly ft gloomy shroud. 
The inner half of every cloud 

Is bright and shining ; 
I therefore turn my trl<*ndK ulM^ut, 
And alwayn wear them iuj*ide out 

To rIiow the lining. 

ALrRED Laubence Fklb 

There is a parallel to Mr. PiCKroRD'i 
quotation in a South Indian proverb, pro- 
bably also North Indian : " The pagoda 
cat does not fear the gods." R. 8. 

St. Edith (10 8. vi. 29. 70. 91. 116, 513). 
— ^There need be no difHculty in consulting 
the metrical life of St. Edith. The legend 
has been reprinted since 1851. The title 
is '* St. Editha, eive Chronicorj V^ilodunenso, 
herausgegoben von C. Horstmann, Heil- 
bronn, 1883." The extracts quoted are 
obviously garbled and modernized. 

Our Anglo-Saxon heroes and saints are 
only known by name as recorded in vile 
and misleading spellings, due to the in- 
I genuity of Norman scribes. St, ** Editha '* 
would not have recognized her own name 
in such an absurd form ; for her name was 
*' Eadgyth," with long ea end long y, both 
parta being intelligible. Here iad meant 
*' prosiierity,'' and gyth probably meant 
'* war. ' The suffix -<j]/th is extremely com- 
mon in the latter part of a name ; but tlie 
Normans ignored tlie g in such a position. 
Walter W. Skkat. 

RoosEvirLT: rrs PRONrxciATioN (10 8. 
vi. 368). — F*reaident Roosevelt's name is 
pronounced in tliree syllablee, accented on 
the first, where 00 is like o long and the s 
hae the sound of e, aa in roitt — the e of the 
second syllable being ver>' short and lightly 
touched,' or nearly like the sound of ti in buL 

M. C. L. 
New York. 

The name of the Dutch family from which 
the twenty -sixth President of the United 
States is descended was originally Rosevelt. 
or rather Van Roaevelt, and was so borne 
bv Mijnheer Cities Martenzoon van Roeevelt, 
who emigrated from Holland to Now Amster- 
dam about 1650. Later, for some reaaon 
that I am unable to ascertain, the surnwna 
was changed to Roosevelt and the i^etto* 

NOTES AND QUERIES, fio s. vu. Ja^. 12, lan. 

nymic " van " dropped. The proimnciation 
most frequently heard is *' RoHcvelt," hut 
tlie editor of one of tJii* principal pai>€rs here 
informs me that in higlier circles it is better 
rendered aa a Avord of three syllahlcB, 
*' Roos-eh-velt," which approxim at«is closely 
to its sound in present-day Dutch, i.e. 
Hoofiafelt. Other eminent men of the clan 
are Nicholas J. Roosevelt, the engineer who 
invented the steamboat paddle-wheel, and 
partner of the celebrated Robert Fulton : 
and Robert Burnwell Roosevelt, author of 
* The Game Birds of America/ Ac, an uncle 
of the President. N. W. Hill. 


The Ainsty of York (10 S. vi. 4G-2, 511). 
—The explanation of ainsty given by Trof. 
Skeat at the latter reference is identical 
with that given by me in ' N. & Q.' on 1 1 Julv, 
1904, when I said ( 10 S. ii. 97) ;— 

"The word with which wo have to do is A.-S. 
t'fu/ttiff, O. N. fWMtiijri^ Norwoj,nan eintifi(/, a ftingle or 
one-by-otie j«th, like the Northern dinlw'tal biviU- 
*'//, a r««id wide enough for one hor«e or eaiTiaKe" 

The reference to tliis note is given by 
Mk. MacMichael, but Prof. Skeat over- 
looks it, and Hays : " The ftcnise of Anstey, 
in Herts, iti perfectly well known, and was 
explained two yearn ago in my ' Place- 
Names nf HcrtK.' " The meaning of *' The 
Ainsty of York " Mae, at any rate, explained 
by me at an earlier time. My explanation 
wae founded on a |)assage wliich 1 quoted 
from the ' Hundred Rolb,' where the 
AyneMy of York is mentioned as having 
anciently been via regia, S. O. Add v. 

Calutorniax Enui-ish : Amekicak Cots- 
NAAtES (10 S. vi. 381). — I have no personal 
knowledge of San Franciscan speech, and 
am not concerned to apologize for it : but 
I may correct or aupplement Mr. Douglas 
Owen's remarks on one or two matters of 

No doubt the colloquial apphcation to a 
person of the adjective husky ceune about, 
as suggested, by trariBference from the name 
of the lusty eledge-dogB of the North, but 
the dog-name husky doen not pertain merely 
to the leader of the t*«am, aw Mh. Owk.s 
supposes, though naturally the strongest 
and most capable dog 14 Holected for this 
oflBce ; it deaeribee the bre»d. They are 
Eakimo dogs, EHkimoA, shortened to E8kic8. 
and conrupteii to Huskies — and thej' were 
BO called in tJie early daye of Hudson Bay 
Company trav»'l, 

Afiain, referring to prices, Mr. fv ■ 
apMJCS of a *' hit, an imaginary' coin 1 

'' »<Iding, •* If such a coin a* a 61/ ■ . . . 

existed here, it is beyond the mem 1 • 'the 
elderly." Thin coin is not at all n :y, 

though it is no longer in circulation aiui was 
not of United States coinage. Wlien it is 
recalled that, practically, national cofi)ag« 
did not begin till 1795, and that the amount 
of its issue met the peoi)le's needs very 
inadequately for along time, it will be undcT' 
stood why, during the tirst half of the last 
centurj', the Spanish-American coins that 
had been in une during colonial days were 
quite as abimdant as the national coiiis^ 
and were considered legal tender. Thf«« 
were the dollar (once the " piece of eight **y 
and four smaller coins, representing it0. 
aliquot parts from one-half to one-si xteentii. 

The one representii^g one-eighth of a 
dollai*, or 1'2J cents — tlxe real or so-called 
*' Mexican shilling " — was fully as familiar 
to my cliildhood as was the dime, and ao» 
too, was the half-real, as a " sixpence/* 
Some years ago, in examining letters left 
by a relative, I noticed that there were 
many, dated in the early forties, the po&tago^ 
of which was marked at ISl^^ents, on amount 
impossible to pay in national coins. 

This Mexican real was current e>'enrwrherr 
at the value of 12 A cents, but it had different 
names in different Stat-es, the name usual^ 
marking ite proportion of the value of the 
aliilling of such State — the money of ai?cmint 
by which people continxied to reckon long 
after the adoption of tlie decimal system. 
In New York, e.g., where eight ahillinga 
were coimted to a dollar, it was a *' shilling/' 
but in Connecticut, whose shilling of account 
was 16J cents, it was " ninepence " ; whiif^ 
in Pennsylvania, with a shilling worth 
13| cents, it was an *' eleveni*enny bit/' 
shortened to levy : and iti Georgia, a " seven- 
penny bit," shortened to bit. The name 
bit was taken up by moat of the Western 
and Southern States beyond the Mississippi 
as they were settled. In California, from 
s|iecial circuroat anoe«, the coin must have 
continued in circulation for some yeare aft^r 
the San Francisco mint wa8 opened in 1H54. 
and, doubtleas because it gives an easy way 
of reckoning, jieople still count by it. 

My reply la so long that 1 will defer till 
some possible future time comment upon 
part of the colloquialisms noted by Ma. 
OwKN. M. C. L. 

Nt5H York City. 

Mu. DouuLAS 0\^'e:s ifl to be praiaed aa m- 
z,ei ' Ih'otor of plu ' ' 'Ls- 

ti- the ordiriar} of 

"' ' '• in this am- ' 'h 

of Time. 
J. K. Los.. 



Her Ainericauisma inserted by 

of 'ng the Bubtilititifl of his 

irtftt ' lii^iow Papers '— the*ie introduc- 
Iwor^ • gUtUriug array of examples, 
r^iced, with the complete 
i> of tho real scholar of 
^£igrit to tho moutlis, 8o to speak, 
printed wTitiiigs in p<x^try aiul 

I Englishmen actually breathing 

air in Qvieen Elii^abetli'a time or 
..jly a mortal caimot help tiring 
nta of the ever^bewaiJing spirit in 
pr of American expressions on tho 
Fof I -day Englishman. Sorely 

[Eng iking An^o-Saxon Yankee 

tint came to tho eaetem shores of 
wonding his way by cart and 
,11 the Pacitic. sprang direct from 
^^_ of a sturdy gang of Engliahers of 
^pmod, and surely tlie latter were un- 
irat«d EngUslii-rs, their English pure 
^_Ji. Bat may be, to guess from his 
i names, pergonal and patronyniic, Mr. 
' r is a combination of Welsli and 
iisequently, by reason of racial 
• ^lat blind to inlierited early 
that take their root in 

i...^........ J. O. CCPPLES. 

|ii)kliu(', MftMsachusetts. 

__gge8t for ticl'ij, a name for the three- 
ky pioc»^, an origin from " tizzy," and a 
oci> to Skcat's dictionarj^ under the 
•• tester/' '* testy," and '' tetchy." 
B the suggestion with an apology to 
■Tskeat. wlio does not consider that the 
[word has any connexion with the former 
Frank Penny. 

vijj (10 S. vi. 151, 237. 472).— 
Id CUppingdalo, M.R.C.S. in 
1 (who I behove in niil\ living), was the 
of the originnl fjuen-t. Dr. S. D. 
PlN«D\f-K THK V ha« privately 

a very con well -certified 

, history of \un |^>ro^»U', w'io are re- 
ttMe as* having lioen Middlesex folks 
Ou*ly for three centuries, and for 
ng ' association with the Thames. 
"tlic family are buried in a vault 
.XatthiAa'fl. Poplar. 
■I- Fred. HJTCHiN-KE%rp. 

I BbMbllttUI K<Mia, CAtiurd. S.K. 

ns-DAtJi. Upbolsterrb : W. 

i: (U) S. vi. 447).— Frederick 

in bis * History of Furniture ' 

' I oil fl 

... ... ■.I..I i Ml ,-, Lune, 

wirioli WAS, at that lime, an imnoriant art centre, 
anrl elosu to tho iiowly f«nin<itMl Hovftl Aciwlemy." 

Chippendale pubJished * The Gentleman 
and Cabinet-lNIaker's Director,' the same 
authority add», 

" not, as ptrttod in the introduction to the Catalogue 
to the South Kensington Mnseum, it« 176H, butHoint* 
yearsj pre>iouBly, iw is lestifiwl hy a copy of the 
* third edition ' of the work, which is in the writer's 
l)0»8e«<jion, and heiira dntci 1762, the tii^t edition 
having ai>]>cai-ed in 1754 and tho aocond in 1735*.*' 

Part of the title-page of the tliird edition 
rutifl as follows : — 

*'T)ionnv5* Chipnenflfde, Cabinet- Maker and Up- 
holfter, ill St. Martin's Lane, London. Printefl 
for the Authorj anri sold at hia House in St. Martin's 
Lane ; alao by f. Uecket and P. A. de Hondt in the 
Strand, m.w.c.c.lxu." 

A cutting I possess from a recent issue of 
The Cabinet- Maker records : — 

"Chippendale— whn«e furniture now commands 
«uch ejctraordinary prices— was oriBinally an estate 
carpenter at NoMtell Priory, near Wakefield, tho 
rewidfuoe ijt Lord and Lady St. Oswald. Noflwell 
Priory isa<:oiii|>arntively modem mansion, so named 
ri* it atandrt upon the sit-e of an ancient priory of 
AugUHtine canons. It contains somo of Chijipen- 
dale'H liest work." 

Mr. K. Warren Clouaton in his * Chippen- 
dale Period in finglisli Furniture' (1897) 
remarks : — 

"Tha Thonnvs Chippendale who is famou8 all the 
world OA^er wa« horn in WorcesterHhiie, luitheyond 
that nothing is known of hia jiersonal history."" 

As Mr. John HeBB correctly writes, the dates 
of his birth and death have not been ascer- 
tained, but *' George Smith, Upholsterer to 
his Majesty," in 1826» alludes to him as tho 
'* elder Mr. Chippendale," and fixes the 
approximate dat« of his son and name- 
sake's death by stating that 

"Thomas Cin'ppendale {lately deceased), though 
' poRsei^HiiiK (j[reat ta^te and ability as a draughtsman 
and designer, wa^ known only to a few." 

The first edition of Chippendale's book 
; wa-s publiHhed at 3/, 13^. 6d., and it con- 
tained 160 copperplate illustrations. It 
was dedicated to Prince William Henry, 
and the second to the Earl of Northumber- 
land. Harry Hems. 
Fair Park, Exeter. 

Chippendale dwelt at tho sign of " Tho 
Chair ' —probably meaning the " Covered 
Chair " or " Sedan "—in St. Martin's Lane, 
afterwards No. 60, long before 1806. In tho 
advertisement, in 1756, of Ins second edition 
of ' The Gentleman and Cabinet- Maker's 
Director,' he desires '" All Commissions for 
Household Furnitiu*e, or Drawing thereof, 
to be nent to th»> Cabinet and I'pholBtery 
Warehouse, at the Chair in St, M«xXim^ 

NOTES AND QUERIES, uo s. vn. j.i>. 12. lar. 

Lane," his colleague at that time beinjc 
J, Rftnnie. These extensive premises were, 
when J. T. Smith wrote ' Nollekeiia and his 
Times * {in 1828), occupied by a Mr. Stut«ly» 
builder. Smith prophesied tlie return of 
the pubHc taste to Chippendale. (See ' The 
Story of Charing Cross,' 1906, pp. 178-9.) 


The following exeerpta eonfinii and supple- 
ment Mk. Hebb's interesting note : — 

From ' The New Complete Guide.' 1783, 
p. 213: " Cliippindale and Hage, Cabinet- 
makers, 60, St. Martin's Lane, near Long 

From *The Universal Britisli Directory,' 
1790, vol. i. p. 103 : " Chippeudall [jn'r] and 
Co., Upholders, 60, St. Martm's Lane." 

To tliis date the name does not occur in 
Great Queen Street. 

From Johnatoiie's * London Commercial 
Giiidejand Street Directory,' 1817: " Thoa. 
Chippendale, Upholder and Undertaker, 
67, Haymarkot. ' " Wilham Chippendale 
and Robert Chippendale, Jun., Solicitors, 
66, Great Queen Street." 

I cannot trace William Chippendale's 
connexion with the Royal Circus in either 
•Memoirs of J. Decastro.' lH24, or * Cir- 
cusiana,' by J. C. Cress, 1809. 

Aleck Abbakams. 
39, HillmartoiJ Road, N. 

"Searchers'* (10 S- vi. 150, 213).~ 
The modem designation would be " a jury 
of matrons '' ; but the penultimate >^en- 
tence of the following interesting old ca«e, 
temp. Elizabeth, contains the word '^ search " 
in uw sense of the query : — 

'* I^\ Panic Willounhbies Case.— En October anno 
38 KoKiiwf mmn 8ir Francis WJllout?liby Chivulw 
morust satfJiH' enccTTit. 4tir>]ne PrrHvnl \ViIloit|i.'hl>y 
que avoit «.it«i»nuM< fiuis, et 

convey ft luy sur - lor [mrt d*?« 

p09ftes8itij|!< del tlu ... L,..;. .. .-lault di' issue 

male, att tin i»l dn «iitti?r common i'«covery. Hur<iuu 
il entcrid uue le retimindor en ^i^^' limit ttl j»rtmer 
fit*" tU'I Sir Vmneis ncrnitKir "; .r* 

Ttmtrc hu tncfc tlisht'rit. 1 it* 

oe .iHatiees ct »k» S<;i^»i<irs dt 1 ' ^ , ^ i le 

procce<hnj,: (k'l recovery, »iu HuriniBu iiue lA fuJt 
en»fint. >iu*-\ fmt «rrmit ; »«r que IVrt-ivul fait 
ail-: ' "' V, one Ift dftine affirm luy 

ti ' no luit, el i»ur ren el df tjiin 

Ici % et ttuxi luv efrU)|. del re- 

covery, et \wt utt«> li priiya '»n'iv de irntrr uffn- 
fimnifin. quA Tortnino TaAnh, tttmo 39 Uevtiim — fuit 

I '\^ 

lln.: > il« 

aciiebii«j o\>i t;ux uit II . Uuut deux 

fuuruut midwives. et ;' CliAmWr lii 

dftine, el ini • * "^ tx.t ctix 

dcvaiit t ur <d fail, 

eiuieint ; ei * ^ dfiuurt 

hora del Chamber, et les ft'"-- i....r,.i, fndanie, < 
ri'torne lour verdict que v\ '.-r que 1( 

VicountH font rt torn del In 

I have thought it well to extend the abbr» 
^^iated words, and I may say that a 
covery " was an old mode of barring entaill 
which was aboUehed by an Act of 1833. TIm 
writ for this inquest, it will be observe^ 
directed to the sheriffs. Mistletoe. 

Admtral Christ Epitaph (10 S. vi. 426) 

617).— I am much obliged to W. C. B. foi 
his reply to my query. I am also grat-fthil 
for Dk. Forshaw's notes respecting th« 
epitaph. The reference from Mr. J. Pottee 
Briscoe's ' Gleanings from God's Acre 
had, howex'er, already appeared at 8 S. i. 
279. I may add that 1 made a pretty 
exliaiistive search in Stepney Churcnyard 
for the grave of Capt. John Dunch {ob. 1*696) 
some twelve or fourteen years ago, bul 
failed to find it, bo I presume it is not non 
in ex-idence. JoHK T. Paok. 

Long Itchinifton, Warwiok shire. 

In the churchyard of Malborough, n\ 
Kin^bridge, Devon, is a slight variant of 
the Selby epitaph, on a man, aged forty- 
seven, who died in 1803, as follows : — 

Though boisterous winds and Neptune's t^-avw- 

Have tosBwl n\v to und Fro, 
Yet I at bust by ("I'" ' 

Am Anchored I 
In hoiMjti once mor- t Hail 

With all our noble tleet. 
With trumpets siounding in the oir. 

My General Christ lo meet. 

In the churchyard of East Portlemoti 
also near Ivingsbridge, is an epitaph of n 
shnilar character, on a man, aged ciglity-oni 
who died in 1819 : — 

Thti" Boreas' blastj* und Neptune's WAX-^s 

Ilnve toH*d me U»o and fro, 
Yet T At Iftst by tiod'« decree 

^'kl harbour here below. 

When lit iin iwK'hor I do ride 

With one I w uliul U> niei.-t. 

Yet once uKJiin wl- must set wiil 

To join our Saviour's fleetv 

Both plaoe6 are very near the sea. 

A. J. Davy. 

Lady Arbei^u^ Jowssok (10 S. vi. 50S)^J 
—See 10 S. iv. 227, also the ' Diet. Nat. Biog/1 
imder Isaac Johnson, her husband, ono ofj 
the foimders of the State of Mn ' * -tt«. 
8he was a descendant of Gpor- of I 

Clarence; and if Mr. HmsH 1^.. .i,.y in-( 
formation about lier descendants, 1 should] 
be grateful for a note of it. 

(Marquis dc) Rcviomr. 


10 8. VIL Jan. 12, 1907.) NOTES AND QUERIES. 



N0TK8 ON' BOOK.S. ftr, 

Homvr and Am Afft. Hy Andrew Lunn, (Lorjg- 

maim & Co. ) 
Tirmr i' no UKtre r>oli"»>i*'H find ckilfnl Hj;litT in the 
lit.- .1 , ■■ ■ ■ . •■ ■ ' ■ ■ ' -, !..'H 

of !i., ...:... ^ i __L .^. .:._i. „, ... :. ...... .... > ....^;,- 

nc>s» whu'li il«Htiti);uiNiica ihu ImjmI (rvrTiiAn Hcholur- 
ehijr n.iv\ m 'hi" vohinir. nt in «nm<» n(:h<»i'« h" hfl« 

In l.H^i ills ' HiJtiici- AUil tlie Kt»iU ' Kt-guv(i kir thu 
unity of Hornf«r, anrl nnw hf« hiw returned to the 
rhiu-K,B in ft ' ' ' " ' 1 My way that it; 

oontttiuH Uji - I'Hrit, tne exjKjrt 

will eA^ily iin V -ucnt is far from 


Mr. Laiiic's thiMUB in iliai Homer, both in the 

'Iliad' iwifl 
V)rii»f agfi of 
(rom the M' 
which ' 
Iniria! > 

•sort' of r)ic I 
'pnd thr 'OfT 
of I 




on J I. I 
tAking I 

UUrr . ! . 

iiH to MM thrtt 
oftrn Ttrifnt*"'? 


of A sillRlt? 

i«? sundcrefl 

If y or two in 

1 Lhc aU|KJl'.sed.iug of 

iv, ihi« dal«* »wn>8 to 

• •■ '-^ '.iiT rat« the 

I Ihe • Iliad ' 

I is the work 

■I UH. He 


; various 

liiM tjwn viow, to 
^. Thtts wc read 
rror to ioBist on 
ys an pie/t (U la 
to Mr. LanK. it 
II let hod by which 
Of ft line twice 
"^ I ind xix- 13| 
vi-dy the dis- 
lur weapons, 
avttdUitiun ; it may be 
aftn«Mi of the pasHiige 
' > us a si(jriiiliciint 
M' ej*«y cinuiitiftii 
lot iiijurwl would 
chami^ter— sueh 
lOBO who Bupitose 
iiMi addition to it, not 
Here, in fact, we 
: T V judgmont in which 
■IS may differ. It 
•\ a writer of ono 
1 .1,1 ■ nUAlity ha*i. Wen 
•<iori>Mxl t«» <nir Atttfiorizt'd Bible, with some justifi- 
Ofttii-.n. M-( think, vrt th*- vr.rsion of .Tnnu'i* Wrts n 
l»«ii I r pre\nous rendeiiiikts 

wl' i-c^i. Would not inntiv 

t,i, ^l| V..1- -..Ml Al,,l,l,„ 

»•< • ' 7 







IS that con- 
mil «rHionr, 

pioturea of ' ^••- -r-Mna under Shield.' an Algon- 
(luin oorslet me of warlike aoootitrt*ment« 

derived fnjiii i k va«es. In the mat tor of 

dress we think dalf is very diftitmlt to det<;rinint;u 
Nothinii? shows survivals in culture niore, apparently 
mtuwiinnless survivals of arrangonientn and viortb*. 
The retention of such tertus eoncenunw obsolete 
things Mr. Lang adntita on p. 'JUL The alternative 
i(s to omit another unfortunate line in the ' Orlystsey,' 
whioh '"does not apply to the state of thiri)?M'i»\ tut* 
' wliile it eontradict-s the whole ' Odyssey,' 
in which swords and e^peara are cUirap^t of brouxe 
wh*»!i tiieir metal is ujentioned.*' 

i 11 bo seen that the best of thooric6 have their 
1.; human j^ide of Apmeranon and Nestor, as 
t liaimjt«*rs drawn with skill (and po8«*ibly derived 
from real i)rototyi>es), Mr. Lang is admirable. Hu 
analyzes with gu.sto the Ixia-stH of Nest^ir anil the 
frailties of AKumemnon. This in a i»oint uf view 
generally neglecte<l by lovers of Greek grammar* 
who dote on the digamma and catuiot «ee a je«t. It 
has always struck us aji a veracious touch that 
Achillej?, in a rage with Agamemnon. Hhould *ay 
that the monarch was the worse for drink. There is 
no reason to HupiM>se that it was so, hut the taunt 
is common now. 

On the linguistic side Mr. I.iang h&4 given u» very 
little. He fiaya, following H<-"'' ''•* Homer never 
mentions seals or signet rii follow*, this 

uj» by linking: "How oftcr r rnigs men- 

tioned in the whole mas« ot Atiic tragic jictetryf 
We rememl»er no example. <uid instances aro 
certainly rare. Liddell and .Scott give none- Yet 
the tragedians wore, of course, familiar with ringa 
and seals." We must protest that we exf»cet 
a little more research than is implied in the mere 
coiiHultiug of LiddcU and Scf.*lt ! Those venerable 
ftuthoritie* are not aware that .\gaji)©mnon himnelf 
Reals an inscrilicd tablet in the ' Iphigeneia in 
Aulis,' 3^; in the same play Agamemnnti in«triicta 
the old man to "keep the seal lii m ,x) 

on the tablet," 155. In the "1 ^i) 

Theseiw break* the seal, his own ^s . „ . ...aet 
(862), before reading Pbiednk'n indictment ol Hii)|X>- 
lytu«, Deianeira sends Lichaii with a token which 
tier lord will ^Nniickly recognize within the circle 
of this seal" {* Traohuiiii:',^ fila). 

We need hardly add that the liook shows abundant 
humour and an exceptionally wide range of ooni|»ari- 
son between ancient and modern times. It doea 
not excel in arrangement or ciimiiresainn, hut it will 
stimulate thoughtiul 8tudent« of the uubjeot. 

Popvfnr Ralla/ln of thf Old^n Time. Selected and 
arninniHl by Frank Sidgwick. Third Series. 
(A. H. Bullen.) 
'* I w vDNA gi'e ae wheef»Ie of a whaup (cry of a 
curlew) for a' the uichtin^Mlc^ in Enirlmttrl" ik the 
jMittiotio, bntanonymm me 

of .Mr. Sidgwick'a * I'l \\» 

with Miidlodsof Scotii ;. i. 

As the ctjntent.s of the volume \u 
yif-fi^ as 'The Hunting uf th' 

I aa 'Chevv Chase'), '.Inhni'^ Av 
I'.nies of Variow,' the nnxicrn In 

. :iiuit Willie,' '.Sir Patrick SiHince,' 

Hell and Mary (tray,' " Woly, wnly, (jin ioN-e be 

I bornv,"' 'The H«'ir of T.inne.' ftfid mfttiv more of 

' ■ ■ ' r Border 

A nohlo 

. .l1.. . said to 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vil jan. 12. 1907J 

rapriflo in an '! ' " f "^' ' '' 

, iifjrler.' from . 
rbioh aoe* ni»t;it , 

I'rot. Child, lij the LwLUi hil, Itiiwuvur, ' The 
lly Beggar' ujul 'The Jlfthorlun/Je Mnn,' at- 
ihuted to .JunieM V., whii'h liave |joiiilii uf reaem- 
ure, A iimii t« illtiHtnitc the Bonier iMiIIads 
_ i'tiflH fpojn Kdinlmi-f^h in the North to Durham 
and Briitifx<|tHth in the South. A iiroxiniate volume 
will ooiisiiL of lidlhwls dtvaliii« witli Robin Hood. 

A PoKM Uy Mr. Thoinan Hftiily, entitlwl 'New 
fear'.-* Kw/ u]h:uh out Thr Fortmghthf for 1907. 
Bot vrry witiafactory is it iis an uxi>laijatiun of 
^ivinu j>uri»o»e in -shaping the yoarH. Th« second 
Brt of r^eo Ti>l«tov'H *'»n S>»'Hki^'»nf^flre and the 
■. ' ■" ■ 1 ' ' 'V^t. We 
the note 

p! . ; 1 ill such 

!tU:tilMUt.-n. I'lie whole cot i si i til ten a iwiiriful Ivsaon 

I humun littleneiia. In *The Tyrnnny of r;!|orheJs^ 

Irs. John Lane in very hnnioroiDi, Im .^ in 

Imi^'hinu some homo truths. Mr. 1' i 4tl« 

^givt^S A thoUJfhtful T».11M.'r uikjh hienj:: i *;uit 

nd his ruUtions with Madarae de Sl*i*.'L A (Jeltie 

LumisHAiicc of the Past ' deals with Aujruate 

T* '' * 1 iK^et of Brittany. Mr. F. «J. 

">ut 'The Sitortsman/ Mr. 

I article on 'French Life and 

be Fronoh Slage' toraifi a further dissertation upon 

i. Alfred Ca]>us. 

In Thf yitirtfmfh Cfnlnru yi. Alfrwl Nnnnet, 
nn Ancien StMuvtetir rtnd Aij<.Men l)«'init^-, writt»s 
ihtfully urtd well on * Kntente, KiirUsIi or 
emuin.' 'Thi? Curse of Mjv^hinery," hy Mr. 
eiginald Newton Weekes, is a jeremiad 8oniotluii|j! 
, the style of Ruskin. M. BjihiI de Sulincmirt 
rit^ns on ' Ciuttoiii Mtxlern Life.' ' A Te-in|>erance 
tiWli ' dealrt with the aV>solnt*fly unreal ohurueter 
jii-ohihitiun in an Amerifan to\ru wherein the 
lie of liquor is prohibited hy the State law. The 
hole atrnoaphere of )»uhlie feelinvf i.s, we are told, 
Inrj^ixl with iiit»*nHe irritation, and an overwlielni- 
»({ umjority of theritizens are utterly opixjwed to 
be Heveritv of the exif^iing li<|uor laws. In 'Bees 
. Blue Flowers' the tdeA is confuted that flowers 
. e lier-ome hhie Iwcuttw blue is the favourit* 
llour of been. An imiHirtant artiele is on * Divorce 
the United States," An {wlmiraMy scholarly 
er is thftt by Mr. Herbert Poui on *Tho 
^uence of CatnlMiu.' 

\S a very cAmest uumVwr of Thf XaHotud /,' 
quHxr a lew artieles of a rn^n-politieal character, 
.•tuniuent amonjf thoHc iR 'Mi^ '■ ' 'I • t.-ra from 
The (i.^nlen that I I.,ove."' 1. r of the 

ork so named. This ^jjves sm i .^ ♦tU.ser- 

fttion* upon the fact that 1 h- - • . . • i t . Is of 

ic ye«r in whieh the pir i ii i rii .:! i !iinle<l 
flowers. In Mii^s K. Biitl»m>»t ^« N-inv More 
liildren*s E*.<say.<i ' we Hud a inaiden of nine \hiv- 
^bly mis*i«ot-iii|.' Butth Wr- fanry there btts 
ithi«ali<ti • is how- 

3ifvinii. l)y Ijidy 

J ahowa I' ......,..- f_,j 

k1 sixtrt. -• a 

» article >• 

is The CaniJitff aj«pettr» * Lord BearonHtield's 

kf-tMiiT <J.-inf'rr.* r«inTrtiTiin!T iTiformntixi'n a pro- 

X Si ly Mr. 

•<n * Bonh.-r 

- ^ i -.^iifying article 

ig by Prof. H, H. Turner on 'r r' V -^ 

jind an erudite one i» that ot 
■ Alxnit Opwjnins.' An ar< .i _ 

attathos to Mr. Arthur C. li^i»*oii'tt "Au 
Parson's Day-lxiok.' 

'The L.v^nM«^^I■»c ok H < 

Holiuea, ih a sound and 1 

eisui in Tfu liurtiuuton, . 

many illuHtmtionB, one of which, 
forms « atrikini: front ispieee. "'' 
I, and have jMiintu of i 
IhhjI. * NoteM fill Pal 

< i _':iillips, are brilli/iiiti 

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Views of Fuji,' atfordii a ij 

colour. An editorial artu U- on ' 1 tie Ar-^iiiUxitUCT 

of our Public Buihlin^s ' had al^^o some oo^pabte 




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Me:ss<r.<i. Hioj. announae an 
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ThiH liook is tl 

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a ' Dictionary of L'la>ti*ifnl M 
lariefi of riniesj profier names, . 
from foreign hmguaues : aud ' TAl>lea oi ^ 
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iSatiws to ffi0rr£spon5fitts, 

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K. .S, Donosos (" Land-waiter"). — "Land 
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M. L. R. BuRsi^H ("Ulalume").— You^-illj 
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(i. S. P.iRHY ("Tho' nature, rod in tooth 
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F. E. DcFF (" Blefi4tn(!s beyond hope or thought* 
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io 8. vn. Jav. 19, 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 




^OTKH;-HU>-eTytnthe I -« at the 

UfwiU-iiui. ♦» — Cljert»e> uSj «4l— 

' H'lni Htm*'.' >(v >fiv ; iliallf\" — 

<'<,i,.ti.lL-''' ■ LiLtle .luck 

H :nii « "Tht' Riftht" 

L.,4 111.' vv . the OM High- 

<)V ( >{ 1 K .^ I '■-. Pollc«-Offlco — Frederic the 

t.r. I ^ MS- : ->i«n of the Cleft.' 47 — Philip 

iif, .% I7i.u — 0*'utkTii.afi% Krenfnj; Dreaa — French 

i iinlon — Andrew JukM — Duke nf Kent's Chll- 

I'liiivni'* iin.l Pir.liin.iit - "A i». iiiiv nixred if 

1 iitatioHH 

w I-'..-- i:-i- -^.^ ....I... .-. ,i-Brink- 

l<^w Kaiuil>— IruUjLn l;§ulJt:— Cratk»lbuik'»B«tuarque 
— Mr*. Mary Ooodyer's M\ird(Br — Aldworth of Berk- 
shire. W. 
JIRI'LIKM: — "Ttiune": "<Kil do h.ruf," Frwjieh M]an« 
Wor<l«. SO — " FirKiinjinoni "- ,kdriir, Diikf of .Nlej-i-ia— 

s...-n *-iiiiur,., -.1 »-,,iv i,.r,- f)r,L-iTw Wrnon 

1 Ik-lore— 

.08, 54— 

I ..y...: ;i.SlTem— 

^ tmlBtMibow'eDeivtfa, 

Gfloieliihktl Owtle. 

I I llag-o'-Nailn — Dod- 

iiin, 50— Klennor of 

< < mental InfMrripUoiu : 

I — ^_:.uid " — ]da«;Nua&r& — 

ir Ktigllah Dictionary '—Platt'e 


Lm correcting one blunder (10 S. ^^. 470) 
31k. Albkrt Matthbwb falls into another 
jBluich worae. So far from slavery legally 
iilBaBing on 1 Jan.. 1S63, the Emancipation 
Proclamation did not render it illegal on an 
inch of territory ; and had the war ended 
then, the very district* affected could have 
bought a new set of slaves from tlie others. 
It did not free even the existent slaves in 
the loyal States or thoi*o forcibly prevented 
from aeceiision, nor (a significant fact) in the 
seceded |K>rtion3 actually conquered, but 
only in tlio»© to be conquered. It left nearly 
a million slaves without even the inferable 
proraiae of freedom. Wliy does Mh. 
Matthkws aiippoBe the Thirteenth Amend- 
ment to tlie Constitution, making slavery 
tlienoeforth illegal, was parsed in 1865 if 
there were no slaves to free ? Was thi« 
elaborate, time - and - labour - waiting, and 
difScult machinery set at work to aVjoliuh 

lat did not exiat ? The fact is that there 
then Botne quarter of a million un- 
sLftVM, and several hundred 
more whose emancipation wa8 
irregnlflr aad doubtful : and that wliile 
the DfVd Soott decision stood unreversed 
in tbm Soprorm) Court, davcry waa still the 

law of the land. The amendment wad 
paflsed to coiuit<?rvail tliat decision and 
make any revival of the institution impos- 
sible, as well as to free the still remaining 
slaves. The fugitive-slave lawa wore not 
aboUahed till 28 June, 1804 : a useless per- 
formance if there were no slaves to hunt 
down. A very brief summary of the main 
landmarks in the abolition of slavery raaj' bo 
permitted : — 

6 Aug., 1861, all slaves employed against 
the National Government freed ; 13 March, 
1862. return of fugitive slaves by the army 
proliibited ; 26 March, gradual emancipa- 
tion after 4 July, 1863» voted by \Ve«t 
Virginia (a war creation) ; 16 April, slavery 
in the District of Columbia (the Govern- 
ment's property) aboUahed ; 19 June, the 
same in the Territories (provisional States 
under Government control) ; 17 July, 
captured or fugitive slaves of all persons m 
rebellion freed ; 22 Sept., Lincoln's ppe- 
liminarj' proclamation, threatening eman- 
cipation if the seceding Stat-es chd not yield ; 
1 Jan, 1863. his great Emancipation Pro- 
clamation, freeing all slaves in rebelUous 
territory thereafter conquered ; 24 June, 
graduEil emancipation after 4 July, 1870, 
voted by Missouri ; 13 Feb., 1864, immediate 
emancipation voted by a convention of the 
part of Virginia held by the Federal Govern- 
ment ; 24 Feb., all negro soldiers emanci- 
pated; 28 June, fugitive-slave laws abolished ; 
13 Oct., abolition of slavery by Maryland's 
new constitution, secured by allowing 
soldiers in the field to vote; 11 Jan., 186,^, 
immediate emancipation voted by Missouri 
in a new State convention ; 3 March, wives 
and children of all negro soldiers emancipated. 
I.rO<^al conventions in Teimessee, Arkansas, 
and Louisiana had also passed emancipation 
ordinances for their States, of dubious 
validity. Tliis left the slaves in Kentucky 
and Delaware unaffected, and those in 
several other States of questionable status. 
The Thirteenth Amendment had already 
been pansod by the Senate in 1864, but failed 
of a two-tliirds vote in the House ; the latter 
body reversed its vote early in I860, and 
the amendment was ratified by thirty-one 
States out of thirty-six, and went into 
force 18 Dec. Forrest Morgan. 

Hartford, Conn. 

Mr. Matthews at 10 S. vi. 470 make» a 
blunder, both legal and historical, which 
sliould not be let pass in t ' of * N. dc Q.* 

He states that "slavery. I previoualy 

been abolished in many in im- .states, ceased 
legally to exist tliroughout the United States 
on 1 Jan., 1863 — or nearly 44 years ago." 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vh. Ja.v. ib. i«8r. 

On 1 Jan.. 1863, President Lincoln by 
hiM Emancipation Proclamation set free the 
blaveH in Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana (except 
thirteen parislies), Mississippi, Alabama, 
Florida* Georgia, South Carolina, North 
Carolina, and V'irpnia (except forty-eight 
oountie«). His proclamation aid not destroy 
the institution of slavery* but simply set free 
the then slaves in those States, being the 
Stales and portions of States in rebellion, 
Thr" slaves in t!ie remaininc slave territory' 
— Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, Ten- 
nfSHce* Missouri, the forty-eight counties of 
Vijginia, and the thirteen parishes of 
J^iiuifliana — were still left in slavery, and 
the institution of slaverj' was not attempted 
to be destroyed in any of the States. 

Tlie Congress — the Senate on 8 April, 
1804, and tlie House of Representatives on 
31 Jan., 1865 — proposed an amendment to 
the States, the first section of wliich ia ; — 

*' Neither alavery nor involuntary i*prvitude, ex- 
cept IV* » jiUiiiMJuneiit foi' oriiiie wher(jr)f the jwirf y 
Mhall hftve been tlulj* oonvioted, shull exist in the 
United Starts, or any {ilaoe subject to their juriit- 

This amendment to tJie Constitution of the 
United States became a part of the Con- 
stitution on 18 Dec., 1866, when Secretary 
of Btat'O Seward announced that it had 
received the ratifications of tlie requisite 
number of States. 

By that amendment — on 18 Dec, 1865, 
and not on 1 Jan., 1863 — was slavery 
abolished throughout the United States, 
and the slaves who had not been set free by 
the Proclamation of Lincoln obtained their 

The error of Mr. Matthews ia one that 
is held by many, and I deem that a clear 
statement of the facts will bo interesting to 
your readers, Lincoln set free many slav^es 
by the proclamation of 18G3, but he made 
no attempt to aboUsh slavery'. Thert^ wei-o 
inony legally held in slaverj' in the States 
after his proclamation, and even after his 
death : for it was not till seven months 
aft^r his death that on 18 Dec, 186r), 
slavery was abolished in the States which 
in 1861 still maintained tho institution, 
and that the many remaining slaves were 
freed. John G. Ewino. 


Tnr. late Rev. Herbert Haines, in his well- 
Uriown 'Manual of Monumental Bra8se«i * 
(ISOI), part ii. p. 232, under a list of brasses 
in ** private pos**<^sion, musc^unis, &c.,'* 
statcB thiit in tiie Bodleian Library at 

Oxford there was (in the Gough Col! 
" A Rose, bearing on inscription < 
from a braids formerly in St. Pet-r' , ,,j 

St. Albans," Hert«. * Tliis rose ) i jn 

Cough's ' SeiJulchral Mouumeiu.-, ^ u-l, il 
part i, p. 335. Just when and how this 
brass got away from St. Pet^-r'a Churcli is not 
Btat-ed, or how it is supposed to have comn- 
into Gough's possession. It wouhl s. . tn to- 
have passed into the hands of t ! , if^^ 

with the rest of "the Gough < i iju^' 

which, presimiably, included other bramm 
taken from churches, as there aro ai^^ 
brasses recorded by Hainea a& at th 

In vol. i. No. 2 (June, 1897) of Th^ Oxford 
Journal of Monurriental Bra&sea, at p, 80,. 
appears a quer>' from Mr. WUUam Frampton. 
Andrews, author of ' Memorial Braeses in 
Hertfordshire Churches,* as to the then 
whereabouts of tliis rose brass. 3Ir. Aiidrerw^ 
there states that the brass in question, wju 
forthcoming at the Bodleian in I8t>4, but 
was not there at the dat^^- quoted. Replying 
to this query-, Mr. P. Manning statue m the 
following issue of tlie same paper (Deceruber. 
1897), at pp. 124-5, that he had made 
inquiries of Mr. E. W. B. Nicholson. BodJe^s 
Librarian, %vho stated that after careful 
search among all Gough's copper plat€S» 
he had been unable to discover tnis *' rose.'' 
Search was also made among the copper 
plates in the Rawlinson Collection, with 
the same result. (There ia no reason whv 
a raonimiental brass should be classed with 
copper plates or kept with them.) Mr. 
Manning adds : " The oldest members of 
the Bodleian staff have no recollection of 
the rose." lii the same communication 
Mr. Manning further states that the mutilat4?d 
inscription to Sir Jolm Wyngefeld, dat^d 
1380 (among those returned by Haines ma 
at the Bodleian), was hkewise not to be 
found. This is ^o figiu-ed by Gough. 

Now what can have become of these 
valuable treafiurea ? So far as I am au^are, 
the above is the only time the quer^- hoa 
been made in print, and T thought it of 
sufficient interest to archaeolngista to repeat 
it in ' N. & Q.,' as the wider cu'culation and 
publication might possibly load to tho 
rediscovery of the missing bras8€«. This 
ty^pe of " rose " is all but imique, two only 
being known to Haines— thw, and ona 

other, which ho figm-es (IntTod., p. 110) 

though tliere are examples of other tiac« of 
the rose on monumental brasaee. 

It is surely worth some or— r-r -rf ^" .^t 
to recover or find these* an( 1 ,^ 

enough that brasses' n-iii 

vu. jas, lii, lOf/Ti NOTES AND QUERIES. 

'Iff any pl«.'a» it does seem in- 
that e;ilcli things could possibly 
.j'tiir trom such custody as the liodloiaii 
tixr^' at Oxfortl. unless by deliberate 
"lich. one would suppose, would be 
e\y detected, though it miplit not 
p'r«*covery of the article purloined. 
ifth to betaken as casting the least 
on upon tlie authorities of this 
rar>'. but 1 l>eUeve the matter to 
a;h importance to justify a thorough 
a, ad far an it may now be possible, 
niore than possible that these 
lavo accidentally become hidden or 
in some place to wltieh they do not 
Qg T It is true t' land possefiBes 

wealth in *• ^ic^l treasures 

to the New \\ oiid ; and wliile all 
Picans are, by our English cousins, 
ilarly credited' with being especially 
ous* of procuring any of these, even 
eacntice of personal honour and 
:it\\ 1 think England does not realize 
jiiazetnent with which .\mericanB 
^the apparent 8Uj»inenesa and indiflfer- 

re especially if it belonged to the list of 
ll-known " Lost Brasses ' (alas that there 

effort to get such restored to their original! 
homes. I could easily identify a brass, 
should be sueli a Ust !), as I }>t>s.s4J'88 prac- 
tically everj^tlnng of importance which Itas 
been published on monumental brasses. 

Stewakt Fiskc, 
Mubile, Ak., U.8.A. 



Knowing how v^aluable inscriptiouB are to 
tlie genealogist, and how apt they are in the 
course of time t«> get removed or destroyed, 
I send copies of some that they may be 
preserved ui the pages of ' N. & Q.' I'may 
point out that Mamiing and Bray in their 
' History of Surrey,' pubUshed in 1814^ 
i. 234, give copies of thuty-five inscriptions 
originally in the parish church. Most of the 
tablets and stones, however, from which 
these were taken were probably destroyed 
when the church was rebuilt in ' " 

. . 1806; for 

the r'ngli^h pubhc to the loss of i although the church now contains tliirty- 
ilMfitires which can never be replaced, three mscriptionn, only twelve (Nos. 1, 4, 
Something disappears, but unless it be o£| 5, 6, 7, 8, 14, 15, 17. 18, 20, and 28 of the 
vpecial value or almost of national import- present list) of those menticiued by Manning 

P (like a Gainsborough portrait), its and Bray exist to-day. Two (Nos. 9 and 

W(»uld not seem to provoke more than 27), however, of the remaining twenty-one, 
passing remarks, and the incident is dated 1736, and 1805 resijectively, must 


gated to obhvion, and so losses go on, 
])crha]js in tl»emselves, but in the 
lite of inestimable value. 

far as brasses are concerned, there ^ 

to be a decided opinion in Eng- I Slawbe y. Bar'. | of Botlevs in thisPftrish, | liy 

those interested in this subject. Eli/jibuth \\in wife, [ Daughter and Heire 

any American would gladly barter his | Ri^^rrl Piatt, E.'^i', | of Vaux Hall in the O 

I to posaeas one, no matter how obtained ; 

I I have in my possession a printed state- 
from England (which emanates from 

i wnroe where certainly calmer judgment 
'ould have prevailed) to the effect that 
i* ft regular market for such things 
•nd they readily command fabulous 
May T, therefore, aa one knowing 
*of I write, be pcnnitted to stat^ tliat 
I ijrnurant of any brass in this country'', 
^ in public or private poeaeaaion, nor 
how of one rver having been offered 
» ; and 1 am fairly confident that an 
curio dealer wonld look on 
to him\ 'it dubiously 

br at a 1 to dispose 

the mo»*t. It w..tiia not bring niore Sophia Mawliey, who died on AiirillO. 1775, in the 
few dollars. H any fellow-disciple 4"" Yeftr I of her Af;«,-. | Kmnm Muwlx'y, who died 
A g/ can tell me of any brasses in on April 2, 1785, 1 iu tho 10"' Vem- of her Age, 
Unii»^d Sinti'!'. 1 uliall welcome the Arms: Quarterly, 1 and 4, Or, a crosa 
Aum, aiul I would certainly iLse e%'erj' gules, fretty of the first botwe<i\i \i3MX ^«i^«& 

have existed in their time, but were appa- 
rently overlooked. 

L Itj a vault near this jilace | la deixjsited all thftt 
w.*v< mortal I of Pratt Maw^>ey, J son of Sir Jos«jili 

' ^ " ' ' "y Dtimo 
iress of 
. — - County 

of Surrey, i whose auiiahlf DisiHJsition, | Under- 
Htnnding and Memory | Suri>assed the Vauiil En- 
dowment» of Infancy, I And afforded his Parents 
the most flattering Houes | of future Honour and 
Ojnifort, I But the Almightv, ! who knows and 
dispenses that which is Best, ] and who»e wtty« are 
unBearehftble, ] Removed him from this tran.sitory 
Life 1 To the Eiijoynient of eternal Felicity in 
another ; On the ."^Ist Day of Ootohcr. 1770, | In the 
jjih Y oar of his Ape. [ Had Fate ]iermitfced longer 
stay, I Nor miatt^h'd thee from thy Friends awav, j 
Thou fthouldrtt have hUVl some nobler Place, | Thy 
Country 'b Ornament and tlroce. | Receive, thi»ii 
dear departed Shade, | Thin Tribute to thy Mem'n* 
Paid, I And may it Avhile it si»eaks thy Fame | Tell 
how we love ^revere thy Name. ! Hero also are 



NOTES AND QUERIES, rio s. vn. jak. lo, m. 

■displayed sable, charged with a bezant or; 
2 and S, Sable, on a fesse argent, between 
three ( T ) heads of the aecond, 2 and 1, 
three mullets of the first. 

2, And all wept and betira,iled h«r : I But he said, 
weep not: | Slie t» not deiul, but Hlec|WBth. | 
Luke, viii, 32. | Emily Maw bey, | Horn the 27"* of 

«J&nuAry, 179B. [ Doiiarted this Life the 34'»» of 
March, 1819. 

3, Committed to the ]j;ravQ of his klndi-edj | in 
h«imble hoiw of ttod'fl meroy throiyfh Chn>t, | Here 
Teai» j the Mortal Body of Wir fkjEfeiifi Mawbey,* 
Bart., j whoao Spirit netumed U> the Lord who 
ffuve it I on the 27"* of August, 1817, I in the forty- 
nfth year of hiw of^ ; I Here alao rest [ the Karthly 
Remaina of | DflHie Charlotte Caroline Mftria, his 
Widow, I who died the 11th of August, 18.12, I ftued 

-S7 ye»ra; 1 and of Joneph their infant hqq ] Vi'ntch 
therefore, for ye know pot | What Hour your Lord 
■doth come. | Matt. o. 24, v. 42, 

4, DaTue Elimbeth Maw boy, | wife of Sir Joaeph 
Mawl>e;if, Bar*. | of Bottleys in this jiarisb, | After 

:&\mtainirig a, lotiE and minful Illness J with the 
jireateat Fortitude and ReniiiiTiation, I Died on the 
IS*"- l>iy of Au;^TiBt* 1790, | In the m^ Year of her 
A^. I "\yhyweep for mo?" (the bkmeless wonmn 

: said) [ *' We all must die, and 1 am not afraid : | No 
mood to me afford h or Sigh or Tear : j, I've tloiie no 
wrDn£, and therefore cannot fear ; \ Good Works, 

• ChildrMi, Friiiiidfs, in vain deplore t \ But ah I bleat 
. 8aint 1 to all around imjiftrt ] Thy settled Goodnefts, 

thy unerritijz Heart, ] Whit;h bade thee Bhtiie in 
. ev'ry Htate of Life, ! As Daughter, Maiden, Parent, 
FHend, and Wife! | Bade thee bo pious : ft*e!ingly 
to grieve | For othet-s' Wants, and »ileiitly relieve I 

I &de th<^o, with Fortitudjo supremej Huatatn | The 
Waate of HickneHu, and the Rack of Paiji ( So rthall 
we obtain HeAveu's blest Aliode, J Nor dread the 
Presence of a righteous (i od ! " 

5. In a Vault in this Chancel | ary dejiofiited the 

Kemaiufl of I Sir Jcweph Mawlwy, Bar', ] of Bottluys 

in tbifl Parish. | He tor many years, | as Chairman 

•of the Betwionf^ I and aa RcpreBentativo for the 

Borough of J Southwark and the County of Surrey, 

I served his county \*ith i HoneBtyj Integrity, and 
Independenctf. j He died June W\ 1708, | in the 

• sixty-eighth year of iiis Ago, j Multia FlebilJA. 

Arms •. Or, between a cross gules, fretty 
of the first, 4 eagles diaplayed sable, charged 
with a bezant or, impaling Sable, on a fesse 
argent, between tliree (?) heade of the 
second, 2 and 1, tliree mullets of the first. 

6l Near this place lies Interr'd the Body of ] M" 
-Jane Dunoomh, wife of the Rer' ( M' lJ«.v»d Ihni- 
comK Ob* Juno IS**" I 1732, Aii. 52. | AIho the Rev. 
^V David Lhinoomb, M.A., Late Vic&r of thiH 
Pariah, Ob* Aug* y* 27, I 1736, -^t. 54. | Sum Fui 
et Ero, 

7. Here vnder resteth tlio Btxlye of Ettward i 
<3irletOTi, t:Jeiit, lato of this Towne, who | deocABod 
the 28^ Day of November, A" Dfii J 1618, and in the 
-54 yeare of ais a^. 

* He laid the foundation atoue of the present 
•oburclit i June^ 1S06. 

8. Lavreutio Tomsono, honeatft Tomsoinni 
familiii ill agro Northamptoniensi oriydo, J 
Collegio Oxoii Maj^dale'ensi | edvcato: J^enn 
natione Svevin?, Ruemiiy, Banise, Germanite | ttiw 
(lalliiL'' nobilitato : dvrMie<iiin lingvarv' cogiiittoM 
iiistrvcto, Theologie, Jvria ci\'iliB et mvnicml 
iiofitri [ totivscj; lit'^rfttvra' pobtioris scientiil cUix 
ingenii | aevmine, diBpvtaudi avbtihtate, elw|vein 
avavitate 1 et le|iore, virtvte onuii pietatetj; ir 
aigni, liiiffvas He \ braicffi jtvblict (lenevcd prefs 
siontf oeleljri : accurata 1 Novi Testamenti tranili 
tione notabili : in tioLitieifl ajivd | Walaingharnvn 
Klizatiette Rj^inie scribam nrincipvvni i dii 
mvltvni(]j exercitato ; post crjva mortem vifc 
pri I vatse vmbratiliw|ve, ivov^ditate ftnnoa vigin! 
contiiivoa | Lalamins Middlesoxia perfvncto; ( 
aeptvagenario | pLaeidiaaini4& religioaiaainikj; di 
fvneto qvarto oaleadaa | Aprtlis loQB^ Vscor Jam 

lilia ex qvinqve f vna itv]ter8tej<i tilkbr 
•go ]iosvcrunt | et iiietatis | . VirmU qt 

et Jaua 
amorist ergo . 

tialway Cottage, Chert^ey. 

{To hr contitiTiM,] 


' Ham House,' by Mrs. Roundell.- 
Havijig lately looked through the chapte 
on the children of the Duchess of Laaderdal 
in Mrs. Roundel Fa beautiful work on ' Hm: 
House,' and having made considerabl 
research^ with regard to thorn and tlim 
history, I bog to point out soine defects an* 
Omissions in the chapter. 

In the first place, the authoress says th& 
they were ftU probably born at Helxningham 
But two of tlieni certainly were baptize* 
at Great Fakenham, viz., Elizabeth, Lad; 
Lome, on 26 July, 1659, and WllliflJi 
Tolmacb in February, li}6'2. The Counte» 
of Dyaart lived at Fakeuham in ord^ t* 
bring up her children at Bury School. 

Secondly, Mrs. Houndell aays that " tb 
third 6on and youi^gost child was naiuo* 
William. He was in the navy, and die 
in the West Indies, whilgt a youth." 

This is hardly correct. He was capta^ 
of H.M.S, the Jersey, captured after Ji 
death by the French, and lost on a rock lb 
tliera ; and he died of yellow fever, probabi 
on 25 May, 1691, so that he was twenty-eigl 
or tweatjr-nine years of age, Mrs. Roimde 
seems qmte unacquainted with the storj^ i 
the duel in Paris in 1680 in which Willi ai 
Tolmach killed the Hon. William Carnegit 
of which a full account, with document 
detailing the trial, is civen by Sir Willi ar 
Fraser in the historj^ ol the Carnegiete. Sh 
also aeenas not to have examined the Laudei 
dale MS. eorreapondenco in the Britiai 
Museum, in which are Bignatures of th 
Ducheea ; nor the State papers on the tru 
and outlawry of William Tolmach, and th 
other St«te papers oa to his trial in the Wee 

>8. HL J AS, 10. m:.\ NOTES AND QUERIES. 

dies for inaiiBlaucliter, when he was 
uded on tlie hand, and yet within two 
^iiad a comniuagion and was made 
k of the Jersey. 

t^ - ^ Tit it* that she saya the dat« 
[the ~ death is not known. It Js 

, itoYot;* t-i. in Luttrell's * Diarj'.' 

W. Ball Wright. 
iivick \1carage. Yoi-k. 

1**Tbb Mahalla/'— ** The troope of the 

after pillaginfl; the place [RaiBiili's 

old], set it on fare." So we are told 

ilegrain to the Matin from Tangier, 

[into Tftf Moniing Post {8 Jan.). A 

from Morocco to Le Figaro (6 Jan.) 

lys. " La niuhalla a attaque Zinat." 

[*\& the wv^nl ynahaila is not to be found in 

rh or English dictionaries, it may be 

f use to explain the meaning of this foreign 

cfuiical term. It is an ArjM)ic word mean- 

i; an anny or a corps d'armee. 

The word mahaila is cognat« with hiUa, 

Rgmtt qua? ahquo loco subsistit tentoria." 

Both these Mooriah words lingered on in 

l^liiish, as we may see in Dozy's ' Glossaire,' 

. &4, 172. A. L Mayhew. 

(Colkbidoe's * Dejection ' : a Mispunc- 
ITATION. — It is, I tldnk, desirable that atten- 
Mhould be drawn to a mispunctuation 
hir\i has long disfigured a prominent 
in Tf .liM-idge'B poem ' Dejection.' In 
' '( the jjoem, which embodiee 
llti i-ht, the question. 

What. And wherein it doth oousist 

ThU lieftiitiful and beautr-rriAking power? 
pow»?r, that is. in the soul, through 
'^'kich alone nature appears beautiful) is 
r^^Wrwed in the fullowing lines : — 

.„ tuoun L»wly! Joy, tlirtt ttf'er was jtivt'ti, 
|-tbc inir*'. nnd in thojr ii«iri-'*t hour, 

iff " ! , V .uul shower, 

*^?TrKiiifh Jimi avvk Hcovrii. 
? miapunctuntion conaistj* in the insertion 
' • iromma at the end of the last line but 

torj* of this ronuna is curious. 
■ was Hrst published in The Morn- 
fl^l'vil for 4 Oct,. 1802 ; and in tliia 
the latkt two Uue8 of the abovt 
^ have no st^op, except a note of 
^ilnttti'Hi at the end. This punctuation 
^^ 'b^^lr«^d to in b!' -- f the poem 

[i tBceived thr ' >nal super- 

'• ^""M, hMv>. >,i, 1 i.i.iidge, being 
1 to the xifw edition of hia 
.< ,t i.. I.... nophow H. N. 

Coleridge ; and it is in tliis edition of 1 834 
that the comma first appears. Having 
been once adopted, it has continued to 
stand, I believe, in all subsequent editions^ 
including that of 1905 by Mr. Dykes Camp- 
bell. So feu* as I know, the only modem, 
version of the poem with the ori^nal punc- 
tuation occurs, not in an edition of Cole- 
ridge's poems, but iu Ward's ' Selections 
from the English Poets.' 

The fact that the inserted comma gives an, 
impossible sense to these lines (while it 
renders its original adoption a mysteryV 
may explain why it has been ignored by 
readers to whom the meaning of the whole- 
poem was never a matter of doubt. But 
lor the sake of less fortunate students of 
the poem it would perhaps be weU, not 
merely that the comma should be deleted* 
but that the passage should be fully punc- 
tuated. There are two ways of punctuating 
it, either of which is consistent with the tnie 
sense of the passage ; but one of them haa 
ob\ious advantages over the other. We 
may either read 
Which, wedding Xaturc, to u« fdves in dower 

A oew Earth and new He!i%eii, 
Which, weddiin; Nature to us, gives in dowor 

A new Earth and new Hvtiven ; 
but of these two readings it is clearly the 
second which the rhythm and the metaphor 
alike demand. * J. Shawckoss. 

Anolo-In"dian * Little Jack Horkeb.* 
— The following linguistic curiosity seems 
worth preaervnng here. It is a macaronic 
version of * Little Jack Horner,' partly in 
English, partly in Urdu, whifh has been 
found in use among ayalis and Anglo-Indian 
cliiklren. Folk-lorists may like to compare 
it with the Anglo-Chinese version in Leland's 
* Pigeon English Sing-song,' 1870, 

Chliotii Jack Honier lijiitha in a ooiTjer 
Klidtji his Cliriiitnias j»ie ; 
Uugli ikft daltn, kisbinish nikalta, 
Bulw a, *' Kaim m.'clu» larka Imm hai." 

Jas. Platt, Jun. 

' The Merchant's Magazine, or Trades 
Man's Treasury," c. 1700. — An apparently 
rather scarce book is " The Merchant's 
Magazine, or Trades Man's Treasury. Fifth 
Edition, corrected and improv'd by E. 
Hatton, Cient. London, 1707," small quarto, 
with a portrait of the author {by R. Wliite). 
aged 32, dated 1696. The British Museum 
seems to have onlv the fourth edition, dated 

There are some cinrious bits of inform at vorv 
in the book ; for instance, coTkftctvoiv% "Oo 




NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. Jan. i9. m. 

law of brokers, it states : *' Now the niunber 
of Brokers, and their Brokage are limited 
by a statute made for 7 years from Michal., 
1700." The substance of this statute is 
given under eighteen heads. 

No. 4. — TJie number of these brokers 
<including all sorts before mentioned, viz., 
exchange, trade, and stock brokers) are not 
to exceed 100. 

No. 11. — Any broker taking above 10«. 
per cent, for brokage sliall forfeit 10/. 

No. 12. — All brokers legally sworn and 
admitted according to this statute shall 
carry about them a silver medal, having on 
one side his Majesty's coat of arms, and on 
the reverse the arms of the City of London, 
with the name of such broker, who shall 
at the concluding of all bargains, contracts, 
•and agreements by him made produce such 
medal, or shall forfeit 40«. for every omission. 

No. 17 provides that "no person for 
buying or selling corn, cattel, or other 
■provision or coal shall be esteemed a broker 
within the meaning of this Act." 

Chap. xiv. is a " Dictionary or Alpha- 
betical Explanation of most difficult Terms 
-commonly used in Merchandize and Trade." 
Amongst these terms ore the following : — 

*' Kei/, a place to land or ship off soods at, the 
numlter of whieli are settled hy the Parliament or 
apiK)inted by the king. Tliose at present belonging 
to the Port of London are (ialley Key, Brewer's 
Key, Chester's Key, W<x)lM3ock, Cnstom-House 
Key (except the stone stairs on the west side 
thereof). Porter's Key, Bear Key, Sab's Dock 

■ (excluding the stairs there), Wiggin's Key. Young's 
Key, Ralph's Key, Dice Key (except tlie stairs 
there), .Smart's Key, Somers Key (except the stairs 
there), Lyon Key, Hanimou's Key, Botctl))h VVharfe, 
(iraunt's Key (ex<;ept the stairs on the east side), 

•Cook's Key, and Fresh Wharf e, Ixjsides other places 
for landing fish, salt, and proA-ision : as Bithngs- 
gate, Bridge House in Southwark, &c. ' 

" Oirfer. — They that carry sheep's wool or any 
prohibited goods in the night to the sea side in order 
to ship ofFctmtrary to law. 

" »'?«/*Aaj</a/to?t.— Selling confiscate goods under a 


* Encycloptedic Dictionary' explains that a 
spear, originally as a sign of booty gained 
in fi^ht, was stuck in the ground at public 
auctions. Ben Jonson, ' Catiline,' ii. : " My 
lords, tlie senators are sold for slaves, their 
wives for bondwomen, and all their goods 
under the speare." 

" Wrcxl: — The iierishing of a ship and every 
I)erson in it : What part is cast nwhore belongw to 
the king, but if any creature in the ship escape, the 
goods are still the owner's, if claimed within a 12 
month and a day.'' 

'* Pircof/t:. — Sf oney paid at fairs or mart* for 
breaking the ground to set uj» IxKJtlis." 

*' Colour Htrati{/er*i' tjoodn is when a freeman or 
• denizen permits a foreigner to enter goods at the 

Custom House in his name, whereby tlie forogper, 
who ill many cases should pay double duty, Ij 
being entered in the name of a freeman, pays not 
single duty, against which there are many eevere 

" Cof/ihM.—A money changer." 

" Frixf.— To sell goods at time or uyioii trust 

" G'ar/*/i/jf/. —Picking the worst from the bert of 
anything." , , ^ 

^' Afiirragf,.—To\i taken of every laden cart or 
hor!«e toward the reiwiir of the walls of a town « 

" PeMferaftfe t/are>».— Those that are troublesome 
and take up much i-oom in a ship." 

'^ StfJionate.— Deceit in merchandize.** 

" Taffi/nian.— One that sells all manner of hooi- 
hold goods, Unnen, woollen, &c., to be paid by w 
much a week, in which method he usually extortt 
a prodigious advantage from the buyer." 

A. H. Akkle. 

Elmhurst, Oxton, Birkenhead. 

"The Right" and "The Wrong."- 
Without entering into casuistry or meta- 
physics, I tliink a frequent colloauial usa« 
of the expression " the wrong * is sufB- 
ciently striking to merit attention. Thefe 
may be more than one right way of doing 
a thing, but in the case, say, of an addreflB 
there is one right and possibly many wrong 
ones. If there are only two addresses in 
question, one is the right and the other the 
wrong address. Wlien a parcel or lettff 
has gone astray in a street, the usual eX' 

Elanation is that it has gone to " the wrong 
ouse," affording no clue to the fate of the 
errant consignment. A person walks **the 
wrong way, perhaps one out of severtl 
wrong ways ; but tliis expression is correctly 
applied to the passage of a morsel of food 
or drink into the wrong channel in the throat. 
A visitor in search of a i)articular house, 
after wandering about, will say tliat he 
" has been to the wrong house several times," 
I.e., he has called once at several wrong 
houses. (I am reminded of an old friend 
who once caught himself, as he said after- 
wards, " going up to bed in the wTong house," 
which he had entered with his key from the 
street in the behef that he had arrived home.) 
" You will find yourself in the wrong shop " 
is a vague threat, recalling the expression 
" to have the wTong sow by the ear." 

Francis P. Marchant. 

Howson's Case. — The following tran- 
script of Howson's case. Trinity, 4 Car. I. 
Com. Banc, is not only amusing, but, to » 
certain extent, throws light on the relative 
powers of the High Commission Court and 
of a Common-Law Court : — 

"A Libel was against Howson, the Viocar of 
Sturton in Nottiiighamahire, in the High Com- 
mission Court at York. Beoanfie that he wae not 



\i\v*\ at 1> 

■ ; And tl 


\Vri-!iL u» I. 
nnrl that th« 
tteat. an<! * 
thcro. j\ 

I'-; l';ii i.-.Ji, NVi 
* Vionr wcml' 

,,,t u t \\ 

vf>ifv, ' 1 

fflli M 1 


i.d to 

'• wa8 
.1, he 
IS one 
lu the 
... , I. .... wure 
with a coniraon 

i in H 
.. ui 

Chamiicr. but tii«t wns the Itnuvery ol tht^ Irine- 
keeiwr'; hr bpoin;; tht'ti in oont««ntion irith an Iim- 
kccjKT ill thv 1' ■ ' . Kervice he 

thniMt o}X'H i! . uml paid, 

' that he and In , m disturti- 

ance of tlivint? Mervu-»'. And lur thnt o tin.»hil>ition 
WOA tintVAtl ivnti Ktanted. lor tho High Comniijision 
<'i*nri ' 'i luin-tviiidrney, nur hrnikini; tho 8cat 

in '1 irv : And the other M-ere thin^r* for 

M-hi' ill l>c liound t«-> bis u,Oim\ \*ehn\muT \ 

And th*3 «juiii|»lHiDl tmght to l»eto theOrdnmiy, kc." 


" The Old HioirLANDER." — It i« assumed 
by the daily p«prr» that '* the lost " to- 
bftoconisl'ft '* Scotchman " us a rarity, if not 
unique. Fiftv vrat-i. ago one stood outside 

the door of 
be many xu 

in Kni 
They ir 

but Louli; 

shaved fa« <- 

' uU 

ifl-shop, so there must 

One still stood lately 

itc tlif barracks. 

d, nut HigiUand, 

lt»ature« in the clean- 

T. O. H. 

Cari^isLB: Cablyol. — In The Times of 
Wednesday the biahop'a signature appears 
now to be a modified form of the British 
<*ai5r-luel. We have aUo had •* Hervey 
Carlisle,** and at leart one Latin form in 
the paai. C. 


Wc niuht rfHiiifst lorii-i^'tnndents 'lesiriiig in- 
r ouly private interest 
■weji to their ^(ueries, 
111 uMUT umL answers mnv 'x.' >»eut to them dii"«ot. 

PtTBUC Orrtcv T -OrncE, Police- 

-COCRT.— ' Tim I dia IJritannica,' 

«d. ?♦ 1S38, xviii. "-'j:*;-", ^ays ; — 

•*Tho Puhlio Oiriw' in JViw Str«>^t wft« for -om^ 
ti »iit|H. . '■ ' ' • • 


ij.Lwl in ITifti. 1.* the At.-I 
anil the ThnnieH Polit'f OtHoo 

Ml 11 .^1. 

On reforrins to tho Act of 1792. I find that 
th«» t<irn: ■■ ^ Tl it ift n^'' " '' ' o-()Hior/' 
but *• r> .>." Thi 1 rt- mains 

f^-r tilt 

jurt in U i.Kaam. Let 

us hoiw it ^vill be retained aa an interesting 
liiwtorical roonmnent. The name "police- 
office " seems to liave been first used in 
1798, when "the Marine Police-Oflice, 
No. 259, Wapping New Stairs' (called in 
tile ' Encydoptedia ' " the Thames PoUce- 
Otfice "), was established. In Colqulioun's 
* Commerce of the Thames,' I BOO, we r«*ft4:i, 
p. 161, in reference to Mr. John Harriott, of 
" his indefatigable attention to the public 
iuti'rest since he has presided (as resident 
magistrate) at the Marine Police-Office." 
After this, apparently before 1816, the otljor 
metropoUtan ** Public Offices " seem to have 
come to be called *'^ Police-Offices " : a 
name which they still later exchanged for 
that of *' Police-Court," the earhest refer- 
ence to which now before me is of 1858, 
though it then appears a& tho established 

Several details are 3rel wanting, and I 
shall be glad of answers to the folJowuig: 
1. Wlien was the Bow Street '* Public Office " 
establislied ! 2. Can a quotation for the 
name beft>re 1792 be got ? 3, When waa 
the Birmingham " Public Office " estab- 
lished 7 4. Can an early quotation for it 
bo furnished ? 5. Does the name '* Public 
OflBce '* surv^ive auN-where else for police- 
court 7 6. Can " poUce court " be found 
before 1858 7 

X have to thank several correspondenta 
for informing me directly of places where the 
name '* police-office '* is still applied to tho 
poHce-court. J. A. H. MmRAY. 


[A «niot«tion for '* j»oliceooari" in 1842 wm 
Kivi'n i)y Mk. ««ANr)T At 10 .S. vi. 4!M. when? he 
?«tiu>;friteil thftt it iniifht be found tu 3 tt 4 Will IV.» 

Frederic the Great's MSS. — The manu- 
scripts of the poetical works of Frederic 
the Great and of his corrc?*pondeneo with 
Voltaire, Jordan, and D'-Vlembert, which 
are printed in the ' O^'uvrtw Posthumes do 
Frederic 11.,' Berhn, 1788, are said to have 
been in England since tho end of the righ- 
teenth centur>\ 1 should bo much obhv'rd 
for information a*» to whetlier tli*=-'- 
scripts are yet in existence, and wli 
Pkmk. 1) 

FriwlctiAu, Berlin. 

"The Sign of the Clkft.' — 1 -ilmii b« 
much obligiid if any of vour readers can 
itiiorm me who is the author of the recita- 
tion entitled 'The Sign of the Cleft.' A 
reader at the Croydon Public Libraricn 
infoniis me that he tlvinks it is by a .F. 
Heart, but of this we arc unable to obtain 


NOTES AND QUERIES, do s. vn. Jan. j%wn. 

confirmation. I am anxious to trace the 
collection in which the recitation can be 
found. L. Stanley Jast, 

Chief Librarian. 
. Central Library, Town Hall, Croydon. 

Phimp Wbioht, c. 1769. — I should be 
much obliged for any information that 
would enable me to ascertain who the 
parents were of a Philip Wright bom 
circa 1759. He had a brother Robert, bom 
circa 1764, and is beUeved to have been bom 
in Nottinghamshire, and to have had two 
other brodiers, named John and George. 
Febicb G. Mahony, Cork Herald. 

Office of Arms, Dublin Castle. 

Gentlemen's Evening Dress. — Ladv 
Dorothy Nevill in her very interesting book 
of • Reminiscences ' has the following para- 
graph (chap. V. p. 56) : — 

" Whilst on the subject of dress of a bygone day. 
I may mention that my brother always maintained 
that it was the first Lord Lytton who brought 
about the fashion of universal and unchanging 
black for gentlemen's evening dress. If my memory 
does not play me false, Pelham was always dressed 
in clothes of that colour." 

I should be glad to have further evidence as 
to this far-reaching initiative which has 
brought men to '* customary suits of solemn 
black." Nel Mezzo. 

French Revolution. — Having to prepare 
an essay on the French Revolution, I shall 
be gl€Mi to be recommended books on the 
subject. I know of the general authorities, 
Cttrlyle, Michelet, Burke, &c., but weuit more 
particularly secondary sources of information, 
such as novels, plays, miscellaneous writings, 
&c., either in French or English, bearing 
upon the social or historical aspect of the 
period. Please reply direct. 

G. Freeman. 

3, Coleridge Street, Hove. 

[You may be interested in the account of French 
Revolution lottery at 10 S. iv. 228, 252, 292.] 

Andrew Jukes. — The author of 'Col- 
lections and Recollections,' in liis Saturday 
contributions — always interesting, and in 
certain respects imique — to The Manchester 
Ottardiarif alluded, in an article on 22 Dec., 
1906, on ' More Autographs,' to " Andrew 
Jukes, the deepest and most influential 
Mystic whom tne latter-dajr Church has 
seen." I have some recollection of the name 
of Andrew Jukes being associated in the 
press with that of General Gordon shortly 
after the death of the latter, and of a state- 
ment to the effect that the books of Jukes 
had greatly influenced Gordon. * The Resti- 

tution of All Things ' is the title ci one c 
his books. Perhaps some reader of * N. ft Q 
could furnish particulars conoeming Andra 
Jukes : his name does not appeer in tt 
'D.N.B.' Was he incumbent for MB 
time of an Anglican church in Hull? 1 
the estimate of Mr. G. W. E. RuaaeH, tl 
writer of The Manchester Qtiardian artic 
to which reference has been made, and 
devout Churchman, generally accepted T Di 
Jukes influence the Christian thought an 
life of General Gordon ? J. GwGOB. 

105, Choumert Road, Peckham, S.E. 

Duke of Kent's Chiidben.— In *T1 
Creevey Papers ' it is mentioned that tl 
Duke of Kent had contracted an iiregidi 
union with a certain Madame St. Laonn 
with whom he lived many years, and «it 
whom he only broke off his conneadon i»ta 
on the deatli of the Princess Charlotte 
became expedient that the young«r tvp 
dukes should marry. In Lewis MelviBB 
'First Gentleman of Europe' it is stato 
he had twelve children by her. Is anythii 
known of these chUdren ? It seems BfcwBj 
that, while the offspring of William IV. an 
Mrs. Jordan should be ennobled, th« 
should have been left in obscurity. 


Papyrus and Parchment. — Some monti 
ago I saw in the Revue des QttestionB B 
tcriquea a reference to a writer who, in v 
Jesuit Etudes, had been able to fix the di 
of (so far as I remember) the latest diplca 
on papyrus and the earliest on parcimM 
that now exist. Can one of your readi 
kindly give me an exact reference to t 
article in the J^tudes ? Q. V. 


I remember a schoolfellow who endeavour 
to prove to me the truth of this proverb, I 
I never saw it in print till I read it in a c 
patch of 1693, printed in C. R. Wilso 
'Old Fort Wilham' (1906, i. 12). Is 
now of wide currency ? Q- V. 

[Quotations for "a i)enny saved is a o^nny 
are given in the ' N.E.D.,' h.v. • Penny,' fV. 9 c] 

Lady Fanshawe's Memoirs. — Can « 
one give me information respecting ' 

E resent whereabouts of the MS. copy 
,ady Fanshawe's memoirs and the otl 
Fanshawe family papers mentioned 
W. T. R. V. at 10 S. iii. 494 as being in 
possession. The signature was tJiat 
Mr. W. J. Harvey, of 38, Tyrrell Ro 
Peckham Rye, who died suddenly ] 
March ; and his brother informs me ti 
no trace of ^ese can be found, neit 

► 8. vii. Jan. 19, iw..] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

were tJiey among hia effects. He may liave 
entruated the MSS. to some publisiier for 

fiublicRtion, or to aora© (nend or archseo- 
ogifal ttuciety ; or ho may have disposed of 
them. Any information leading to their 
discovery will be raucli appreciated, if aent 
to ' N. & Q.' or direct to me. 

E. J. Fajtshawe. 
ia>,Ebur>Strwt. «.W. 

Sir Richard Fanshawe's Portrait. — 
I am most anxious to trace a three-quarter 
portrait of Sir Kichard Fanshawe. Bt., by 
Dobson. Sir Richard wears a blue satin 
drees with wide lace coUu*, and haf; a lar^e 
ffreyhound. The pictiire wan purchased m 
1877, from West Horalej', Surrey, from the 
descendants of Sir H. Nicolas, by Mr. W. .J. 
HBkr\'e5', who, as mentioned above, died 
Kuddenly last March ; but no such portrait 
was found among his effects, though he 
had presented a photograph of it to the 
National Portrait Gallery. Should this 
meet the eye of the present owner, or of any 
one who knows the present whereabouts of 
the picture. I should be glad if he would 
kindly coramuiuoat* with * N. & Q.' or with 
me. E. J. Fanshawe. 

132, Ebury Sttwt, S.W. 

Amioiis OP Quotations Wanted. — In 
Mr. Marion Crawford's novel ' Saracinesca ' 
the VkTittT put« into the mouth of Cardinal 
AntonelU the word* " tiniidi nunquaiu 
BtatueruJtt tropspum."! .8iujjp€«ct that sUi- 
tuentni siiould be ataturre, in which case the 
wortlfl wotild form the greater part of a good 
hexamet<*r. In what L»tin author do they 
occur ? A. A. B. 

'* Beware lest it be the df^sire for change 
that drawelh <>ti iUr refonnatton, but rather 
let it be th< \ for reformation that 

Uraweth on t ^•%" 

H. J, Whitbsidb. 
Croaby, Ltk of M«n. 

Brass Ritiblnos. — In the number of 
' N. & Q.' for 31 March, 1900, there appeared 
an advertisriiu^nt addreaaed ** To Collectors 
of Brass Rul.l.iiu'^,*' stating that "the 
coagnifif^nt i> of Brass Rubbings 

formed by t* '',>-v. .T, R. Lunn " was 

for sale, and mentionmk' that the collection 
rtfpreaeinted *' 1.580 odd thflerent braases." 
In view of tho great probability of future 
tnquiricf) concerning them, it would be of 
mnd) tnt/v«et to know if a purohaHf^r waa 
fotxnd, and, if «o, who it wa« ; and lurtlier, 
if the collection hna been Bold entire or b«»en 
broldeOi up. It would aL»o bo interesting 
if the vfoodor or purohaMr would kindly 

furnish some particulars about the rubbingt) 
themselves. W. E. HarlandOxley. 


French Proverbs. — .Je inet« ici quelquea 
details 80ua le« yeux des lecteurs de * N. & Q.' 
dans Tespoir que par suite de leur pub- 
licit6 Ton r6u8aira & retrouver un MS. 
pr^ieux. Partni lea quelquea ou%'Tagos que 
je possMe traitant des proverbes trsnfjaia 
il y a un exemplairedea ' Matinees sj&nonoises, 
ou Proverbes fran^oia,' &c., par Tabb^ Tuet. 
Voici ce q^ue dit I'autetir d'une * Petit© 
Encyclop^die des Proverbe^ fran^ais ' (Uilaire 
Le Gai, c.-a-d., M. Gratet-Dupleafiis) k 
propoa de cet ouvrage, public en 1789 ; — 

*' Cet ouvfuge de TfthlKj Tuet est certainenient le 
meilleur travail que nous losscdiors, en frAti\'iii8, 
imr lee jtn>verbe8. I^' volume, duiit je viena ilc 
donner le litre complet, ne coutient que .lOU ;»ru- 
verbes yxiiliMUoa et commentea ; nmi» la suite existe 
en manuserit, et tout4?di8ji09«^|>our rimiiresHion. Je 
HOKHMe cetlc suite, iiui t?8t divisi^ en dtnix volunitm, 
ft qui yjourrait, a I iniprewion, fournir la matiere 
d'un groa irjootavci. CetU? j^iartie mftiiuscrite e«t 
tout ausgi wugTiee mae la ^premuTtj et ue la dt^jtarc- 
rait i>ris. II ne laudrait jmw mernt- de gr*vnd» 
travaux iwiir niettrt? IVjiivrapv ontier en rtat d ^tre 
nublio avec Hucctw aujourd'hui. Quelques fid(liti«ma 
laites liar un t-dit«ur instruit et intelligent suffi- 
raient jjour en fftir« un trait** apiirofondi et presiiue 
d<4finitif Rur nos proverbea et snr no« l€x?ution« 

Eh bien, il m'eet arrive de consulter le 
" Catalogue dee livros en partie rarea et 
pr^ieux composant la bibliotheque de feu 
M. G.-Dupleesis, ancien recteur de Vaca- 
demie de Douai. dont la vente aura lieu lo 
lundi, 18 fevrier, 1866, et jours suivanta, k 
1 hetirea precises du soir, Rue dee Bona- 
Enfanta> 28, maison Silvestre." &c. A la 
p. 166 de ce catalogue il y a mention d'un 
exemplaire des * Matineea S^nonoises,' et 
Tarticle suivant eat alnsi con^u : — 

"Lea Matini>e8 S^nonoises (par I'Abb^ Tuoty. 

Tomes 11. Pt 111.. 2 vol. in-4, denu-rel . mar . vert. 

"ManusLirit ftnto^jm^^bf* et imklit. Ce« deux 
volume?*, enti. " de I'abW TxwU 

.'taient tout i m. Cette euUe 

e«t aussi soig:ii. . ..: . , i i« >^s;u)(v mu>.- le 

jiremier volunif, L'alibe y a '•'• 

i-cmarques et d'anecdotes tr< 

lui-nionie le« diverges i-iuhjh i iw 

Hon trfl vail au net, et on i • . i r i ' ;•■ I i'- ■ i nn 
dfl la t^ble du troiaienit- w ,!uip.' i m •< Id juiit, 
1795, ou le 28 prairial, an 111.— ti, D." 

Pour ceux qui s'int^«»ssent h V<^tude des 

{)roverbea fran(,'ai3 rien qu'k lire ce« quelquea 
ignes d'un catalogue fait venir Teau a la 
bouclie. 11 ent potiaible que quelqu'un ait 
achet^ oee volumes k la vent<> en question r 
peut-on savoir qui en est le poasefiseur 4 
rheure qxi'il eet ? II ne serait pas dilficilc, 
le penae, avec une telle TQeoQoas^wDid&iv^fvu ^ 

NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vu. jav. la, tarn. 

troiiver un MiU^ur, afln que cet ouvrage ne 
t^oit plus inddit, ^'il existe. J'eapere que 
ce« quelqucs lignes patfsoront sous l^s yeu^t 
de quelqu'un qui soit a raeme de donnor de« 
renseignementa concernant le sort de eea 
volumes pr6cieiix. Edward Latham. 

BRi>rKLow Family. — Can any reader of 
* N. & Q.' furnish inforuiatioii about the 
Bjinklow family ? Any data regarding 
anceatrj% place of reBidence, or burial of 
those in England now or fonnerly, family 
records, and date of emigration to America 
will be greatly appreciated. In the latter 
part of the seventeenth century ae^'exal 
members of tliis family settled in America, 
one of whom, Jolin Brinckloe, became a 
member of Penn*« council, 1690. 

The spelling of the name varies in Ame- 
rica — Brrnklow, BrincJcle, Brinkley, and 
Brinckloe. M. C. Ssoth. 

41(11), I'iiie Street, Philadt-lphia, Peuua. 

Tristan aitd I80ij>e. — I shall bo 
obliged if any of your readers can tell me 
as to the truth of the legend of Tristan and 
Isolde. Did they live in Cornwall ? Were 
they buried in the same tomb ? If so. 
where is the tomb ? L. E. 

Cruikshank's Remarque. — Can any one 
iniorm me what George Cruikahank's 
retnarque was ? la it given on his cari- 
catures published by MacLean in the 1820-30 
peiiod T J. H. L. 

Mr3. Mary Goodyer's MrrRDEK. — In 
Manning's ' History of Surrey,' vol. i. p. 15, 
it is stated that Mary Goody er, tlie owner 
of Guildford Castle site, was murdered by 
her grandson in 1748 or 1749. Can any 
reader of * N. <Sc Q.' tell me where I can find 
an account of the murder or the murderer's 
name and fate ? E. B. Tempest. 

Uoleby Hall. Lincoln. 

Aldworth of Berkshire. — Wanted 
baptismal entry of Robert Aid worth, 1619- 
1620 ; record of marriage to Elizabeth 
jJBrowne, widow ?K C- 1644 ; also baptism 
jii his children, Robert, Elizabeth, Joan, 
"»nd Anne, before 1(500, when he is found at 
Tubney, Berks, and son Thomas is baptized 
at Appletoru Berks. Wife Ehzabetli buried 
il063. Acquires lands at Frilford and 
iHarcham, Berks, from Francis Pigott, 
1679, &c, BiuHed at Appleton. .Tau.. 1698/il, 
I.I., ** aged 79." Leaves lands in Abing- 
don. Sutton Courtney, Xorthmore, &c. 
Any information serving to identify the 
above Robert Aldworth welcome to 

A. E. Aldwobth. 
iMtiviintrjck Vic^mgc, Stilibimry. 

" THUXE " : '* CEIL -DE-BCEUF," 

(10 S. vii. 8.) 

That thune (or tune : its orthography, 
in the case of a number of slanjcr words, 
does not seera to be fLsed) repre!*ent« money 
generally, and a 5-franc piece in particula ' 
seems pretty clear. As to its origin in tl 
slang sense, none of the few slang dictioa 
aries 1 have at hand seems to ^ive an opimoB 

I gather, however, that tuner la an old Fi ' 

word meaning to beg ; that tune (de 
from it) is, or waa, used as meaning the |^ 
of Bicetre, " c'est im prison de mendio 
Further, another dictionary gives the 
ing of thune as alms (auww>n«) : r&i 
thwws^ lie la thun^, king of the beg|_ 
Another defines thune as piece : thune 
cinq balles {baiU: = piece de 1 fr.), 5-frar 
piece ; thunt: de cattwlottet pitJie 
The transition, imless I am wrong, 
be from to beg, alms, money, to a o-lrar 
piece. A o-franc piece ia also called a rot 
dc devanif and a 2-franc piece a roue 
derriere. Here is a list furnished by oi 
slang dictionary :— 

Bredoche, centime. I^rante, i>i^oe de 2fr. 

Bro(|UP ,. Chatte, pi^-e de 5f r. 

Rond, uu sou. Bounie ,, 

Croociue, „ Driugue „ 

Doublin, deux sous. Thune ,, 

Mtiatoc, „ Fri^re Tbunard, pi^oe 

Dardelle „ fjfr. 

Crotte de pie, pit«e do Pftlet, piece de t^fr. 

30o. Demi-sigiie, piece d<j IC 

Belette, jii^oe de oOo. Siguo. pince de 20fr. 

Fept't*! ou pepette, piMce Ronton 

do iTOo. C*;roU', Mon^isalbie, ] 

drain, i«^oede.'iOo. d'arut'tit. 

LiMtre », Blftf '»rd, piece blwioha. J 

Pastille „ Cig, oiifue, on ei|j 

Comljrie, pi6ee de Ifr. pUktv d*or. 
I^rtflo ,. Ci'.riie. Jiiuiit't.* 

Blanc likr-l ' fair 

Linv^ MhI 

Veillpuse ,, B-mm m- i u-n, j'i»hju 

Cascanit, pi^ce de 2fi-. piece de monnaie. 

Probably the list could be easUy exter 
There is, of course, a large number 
slang terms for money generally. 

Edward Latham. 

Lnri^dan Larchey in his * Dictioui 
Hiatoriiiue d'. Argot! dixieme Edition,* U 
gives the folh)wing : — 

"Thuut : Af^ent. V. BitU, Tunt." 
*' liUh, BiJ/finonf, HiHon: Monnftie, BUtc, 
et hilU vicnncnt de hilfon, *L'ftrgent an 

' Yellow-boy. 


e*t tie la tmitM?, ou clt» In. Ihttiu*, iw de la liiUe 

(Mornnnrl). * Nous ntt^ntlions la sorgue t»our 

lairw ciu liilloii' (Vi«1lkii|)/' 

Sorrpie or «orffr means evening, night. 

" ■ r-jri«| frntic«. *J*»llais dnun les 

Imr il aveo une txiuv ' (Bcfluvillicr). 

I -CEH-dc-bwuf ia not Riven. There is 

"(Kit' vuA\\. Nf ' '■ I iiintmir« lie 

XtiJartoHchf Jo liriii' 'Jf vous 

l.offre le viu l»l»tiri r i i (Chenu). 

* La mt^niBricherio licutcml |i n' rarticle 

f .i|u cnHiit. PUitfjt i|ue cie fftiir JVil. elle 

pr^fM'rAit/ &o. (Fr. d'AngU^nnTn ; 
' •* (KU (oroiV C) : Avoir crt-dit" 


Mr. Platt ia correct in eajring that thune, 
or lime, IB ft 5- franc pioce. Other gynonyins 
^ in argot are brinu dc fond^ dardunne, rout 
de derriirc, the first of which, dream, perhaps 
points to Fr. tfum (Lat. thunniis), tunny, 
lieing the origin of Ihune. Compare Fr. 
argot brdrnes, plaj-ing-eards, with '* broeuis *' 
, our current Hlang. Brttise and p&e (p^-»e) 
Ft. argot for money genprally ; si-gue, 
T^HaUaijtf^ bonnet jaune^ for 20-tranc pieces 
(thievefl' slang) : as aUo linvi for franc, and 
patard^ rttHn^ beogw (ef. Eng. " tack " in 
Fanntsr and Henley), for a sou. H. P. L. 

** FtBGUNAJTOM " (10 S. vii. 7).— Mr. 
HEWKT80I* must, I think, have miaunder- 
stofxi the late Preeident of the Royal Society 
of Antiquaries of Ireland, who certainly 
coiHd not have told liim that this word Ls 
** the Irishism of Firgananaim,*^ since the 
latter ia iteelf (badly 6«i>elt) Irish, and 
J>^iryxitianum only a rather more illiterate, 
or 1 ' more phonetic, attempt to spoil 

it. ig to Mr. Hewetsox, Finja- 

'in IK a curiouw compound of Greek, 
1, and Irish," viz., of ** vir, man ; gan, 
thout ; a, a ; futtm, name." This ex- 
planation, by thf way. seems rather to be 
*• a curiotia compound " of Latin. Irish, and 
EngUsh (or Scotch) : where is the *' Greek " T 
But in truth there is ueitlier Latin, Greek, 
nor English in it. As any Irish speaker 
would have toUl hini, and saved him " ven,* 
uiuch ft^earch," ffar gun ainm ia simple 
' everyday IHaIi for *' a man without name " : 
, /far, man ; gnn, without ; oinm, name. 
LTho plural of fear is fir, and if the phraiso 
"^ fir gun ainm, the meaning wo\ild be 
withotit name.*' J. A. H. M. 

Thia word Ls not a compound of Greek. 

Lfttui, and Iri-nh. Nor can it be analyzed 

aii'«qQiv«lt«nt to Lat. tf>« man ; IrLsh gan, 

wilhoni : Eng. n .- and Irish nairn, name. 

I 'Tho word standi for a genuine Irisii pliraae, 

which would be written in modem Irish 
fear gan o»»wi, a man without a name. In 
older Irish fear would be written fer : fir is 
the genitive form. A. L. Mayitew. 


FH. T. W. also thanked for reply.] 

/Edric, Duke or Mebcia: iEDBic Syv- 
VATiccs ( 10 S. vi. 469).— In reply to A. S. B„ 
it may be noted that Edric, or Eadric» 
Streona was Earl — not Duke — of Mercia in 
1007, not 1003 ; lie married Egitha or 
Egj'tha — not .4Cdena — daughter of Ethel - 
red II. ; he was slain by Canuto on Christmaa 
Day in 1017. 

Edric Sylvaticus, or '* tlie Wilde," *' whose 
descendants assumed tlie name of Wild," 
and were known to the early and lat^r 
clironiclers almost indiscriminatelv as Wilds, 
Wylds, Wildes. Wyldes, Weldes, De Weldes, 
and Welds, may be shown to have been the 
son of Alfric, the brother of Eadric Streona, 
from tlie following excerpts (one reference 
out of many), wliich are also a reply to the 
other questions asked : — 

1. '• KotcMijiore extititiiuidam jiriV']»otonH niinistcr 
ICflrious. cognoniento Silvalicus. tiliu*! Alfrioi fratrin 
h/liiei Strc'ouc.'* — *Symeon of Durlium,' voL ii. 
p. I8.'i, Roll Series, 

2. "At i>ortidus dux Edriciis Streone gener regis 
(haimit enim in ooujugio filtam ejua Egitliam)," 4c. 
-Jhirl., I,. Ul. ^ . 

3. "Ac ill Nfttintato Domini^oum eawt Londonm*. 
I»ertidam duccm Edricum in nalatio jussit rCftiiut^J 
oocidere, <|uia timebnt in»idii8 ah eo aliiiiiando 
cireumveniri sicut doniini mil ]>n' " l'.. 1....1,.,. ,,t^ 
Eadmundiia ff<?«juenter circtimveni i« 
illius super nntnini oiyitatin |^>roji "» 
])nveepit diniitti." — Ibid.^ p. Ia5. 

It may be of interest to A. S. B. to know 
that Edric *' the Wild," or Sylvaticufl, 
besides being the '* great-nephew-in-law " 
of Ethelred II- was also a kinsman — xi*., 
a first cousin " twice removed " — of King 
Harold II., whose sister Edith married Iving 
Edward the Confessor. Harold himaelt 
married the granddaughter of the far-famed 
Godiva, the wife of Leofric, an Earl of 

The sheriff referred to was kno>vn aa 
either Wild or Weld, B. W- 

F«)rt Aui^istUH. 

Burke's * Commoners,* vol. iv. xi. 334, 
under Lowndes of H assail, gives the infor- 
mation wiiich is asked for by A. S. B. 


Spelling Changes (10 8. vi. 403, 450. 
493). — With all deference to the valuablo 
commimioations of Prof. Skeat, I think it 
would have been possible to point out. even at 
the Tiak ot tepetxuou, \,V\«X \\\^ ^o\*v»«i. ^«i^ 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. jak. utinr. 

et standard English — ^not an impoBBible 
Bvery where phonetic English — without 
branding the latter idea as one broached 
onlv *' for the purpose of misleading and 
making miscMef.*' I will not believe that 
any one would write in * N. & Q.' with that 
intent or in that humour ; and did I think 
the imputation personal, I should repel it 
with a positive denial. Further, I think that» 
although these pages are devoted to the 
literary and studious, not many of these 
would represent the motive of the ^at 
majority of their practical and intelh^ent 
countrymen — who, though their abihties 
have not been directed to the academic 
study of their language, have nevertheless 
a clear judgment as to the impracticability 
of the proposed spelling change — as ** the 
crass ignorance of an obstinate and indocile 
public. May not their vision be the deiurer 
as unaffected by the enthusiasm begotten 
of study ? 

Mr. Street has ably and temperately 
demonstrated the obstacles ageunst the 
establishment of a standard ; and as the 
strenuous and worthy American President 
appears to have deferred to public opinion, 
it seems likely that the standard \iiall not 
be set up either at New York or London, 
but that the old language — occasionally 
onended and enriched aa heretofore — wiU 
be suffered to pursue its rugged course, and 
that we may still enjoy its analysis. 


I have great sympatliy with the simpU- 
fication of spelling, and particularly with the 
artistic appearance of print. I have given 
practical effect to some of the ideas I have 
on this subject in the course of the five 
hundred pages of my ' Swimming ' biblio- 

g'aphy. Dire was the prospect of lashings 
om the press which printers, publishers, 
and friends held out to me. But the press 
never took any notice of the spelling. It 
reviewed the book most favourably from 
an easy standpoint, but not from a biblio- 
graphical, educational, scholarly, or scientific 
point of view, as I had hoped. 

To get into the very simple alterations 
in spelling I made took my printers a very 
long time, during which period I had to 
fight them day by day. I insisted on the 
spelling being altered to mine, notwith- 
standing that I had to pay for all their 
mistakes. Often I made such marginal 
comments that I fuUy expected them to 
say, " Mr. Thomas, we are not accustomed 
k> being spoken to in this manner, and we 
must request you to find another printer.'* 

But they did not : they kept their tanME. 
If there was all this trouble with a Mr 
alterations, what would it be with many t 

So far as I know, I am the only penas 
who has dared to publish an English edooa- 
tional book with any simplified spdlingp- 
But then I had not to earn my living. I «& 
glad to see Prof. Skeat*s admirable notes 
on spelling reform, for I fear that verr lev 
sdfiolars whose opinions one would uke to 
hear will speak. At all events, I obaem 
that those who have advocated refonM 
take good care that they follow the old 
spellings in their books. 

Any sudden, wholesale chan^ I beliew 
to be impossible. But much might be. dooB 
by degrees. Similar improvements hsrs 
been made in music, but each has ben 
objected to and fought step by step. WiboB 
in 'A new dictionary of music' (p. 2jB4) 
says : ** Every innovation tending to im' 
provement was stigmatised as inunorali1y» 
sedition, and infidelity.*' This is much tb» 
position taken up by most of our preaenl 
scholars, schoolmasters, and such-like inter* 
ested in education. From them no refonn* 
will emanate, any more than national refonv 
emanate from rulers. 

Instead of simplification or refcMtn, tto 
modem tendency seems to take a backwaid 
step, as, for example, putting Freodk 
enoings we do not pronounce, or leaving 
out letters instead of keeping words in th€ir 
original form, as " typist " (which should 
be pronounced " typ ist ") instead rf 
" tjrpeist." I have always known the wofd 
" wasteful," but lately I have seen the word 
" waste " so fiJtered by the omission of th» 
e that for some time I did not know ydab 
was meant by "wastrel." Prop. SkeaT 
says (vi. 450) : " If a German meets a nev 
Englisli word, it may easily happen that itt 
spelling affords no clue to the sound.' 

Wastrel " is an instance of an Englishman 
finding a word which affords no clue to the 
sound. I do not know whether to pro* 
nounce it " wastrel " (like " mass ") or likfl 
" wasteful." 

To go on with the present muddle, how- 
ever, is preferable to the tyranny of coercion. 
To be dictated to by an " Academy " wonkl 
be the worst thing that could happen f<* 
the language. Such a body would probably 
begin by insisting on disfiguring our letteff 
with accents — a brainless and practically 
useless expedient. These accents nave ben 
enforced in France, and, worse 8till,V^ 
Spain, where, contrary to the opinions* » 
scholars, a sort of Inquisition compelsfv 
the printers to adopt some new accents tlM 


10 B. vu. j..>. 19, 1907] NOTES AND QUERIES, 


'Stories and Folk-lore of West 

^Bpaniah Acadf»ray has ordered. Any printer 

Hdariug to disobey is put under the ban of 

^Bthe InqtUHitirm. 

H German scholarfl have told me the spelling 

B authority orders a word to be spelt one wa>% 

^1 and six montlia after chances itti mind and 

Hdirecta it to be spelt in another way. 

H Raxph Thomas. 

H Folk-lobe Obioins (10 S. vi. 609). — 
^ Perhaps some of the following works — 
not, 1 think, publislied in connexion with 
the Folk-lore Society, will be found useful : — 

R. Hunt's 'Pojnilttr Ronmnces of the West of 
f KnKland; 1881. 

•uiusniitey Kulklore.' from MSS, by the late Sir 
Fxlgur MacOullooh, Kiit.. F.S.A., tsd." hy Kdith F. 

' Ijenjends and Tnwiitimw of HuntiiiiEdouBhirc/ 
by H. B. .Siiundem, lasa. 

(J. L. Cioninie'fi 'Fotk-loro Relics of Early Villag^i 
Life.' 18H». 

W. C. TT ' ' "• • -T of a National 

Origin «'t i„d from Early 

Times.' w _ Hazlitt, lt«2. 

lAftg'ti ■ Mvth. Kiiu&U Mid Religion'; and 
•Ciwtr>ni and Myth.' 

Wm. Bottrcir» •? 
Oimwull,' l«7U. 

Rijv. F, i;, I.' ''h '(flimfiaea ill the 'I'wilight/ 

Bmiui AntiMuitiei' (Kllis). 

W, A. i Sc-aiKiinaviaij F.iiU-lore: Illnn- 

tration»oi i.n- j uniitional BcliefK of the Northern 
P»?ople« • IKJW. 

\V. Wocid'i* 'Tales and Traditioim of the Hiyli 
Pi^, Derhymhirv.'' 

S. O. Addy'M • Household Tale*.. 

J. K<:jb|« ' Truditioiitt (if Ln ' 

R. J. ]\iu\i\ ' Folk I'tre of I 

H. SwaiuHoi) Cow}M-r'j< ' Hn\« 

Rev. .J. C. AtkiuHon's 'Forty Yca{> in a Moor- 
laiMl Pan»h." iKiM. 

Mias M. A. Courtney's 'Coniish Fea«ta and 
Folkdore- ' 

C J. BilliHjn's 'County Folklore: I^iceHttTshire 
and Rutlniid/ 

T. F. ThiwlMrti-Dyer « • English Folkloro.' 

H .T Kn»r- sL.f-lu.v siu.ii.v Descriptive and 
Hi* tod dof(a of folk- 

htr>. A. 

.1. kSotifffin's '8tray Lt^ave3 of Scicnoo and 

Joumnl of the Folk-S«in^ Society. 
♦NjM'i^tml tK)|5n' (** inmovcT " i 

' 1 "iwti T»le»*.' DaiJi/ MaiJ. I June. ia». 

*' <iry Talc^.' tolleoted hy.Io«e|ih Ja<X)h8. 

•S|,ini^rt*to' ("turnover" in 7'A* Gtobe, 24 June, 

*The Oriffinfl of Fairjr Myth/ Uy Arthur J. 
Salmtm. in 7'A< Iiri»tot Ttm<A ami AiifTot'. 16 Jan.. 


I t ' The Brownie* Ahnwifl,' I.HH!». 

of ihw W'csl,' /*W/ J/a// (,'aiefU, 

2»l;, -»., 

♦ FolkloTD of ShakM^iearr,' lAynnre JJo«r, Marjh. 

B^njamtu Taylut^a • 8tor>-olo(cy.' 

in Tht aiolHf, 

W. A. Clouston">« 'Popular Tales hikI Fictions ;. 
their ^iig^fttio^^8 and Transfonuationw," 1SK7. 

J. CrawhalVs * Old Tayles New lye Kolated/ 

* Poiiular Sujit?r8titionB,' '• tlentlenmn^i Ma^^azine 
Library," cd. by t!. L. (Jomnie, F.S.A., 1884. 

Wirt Sykes's * Briti«h ( lohUns.' 

Charles tiould's ' Mythical MooHters' (with illua- 

8. BariuK-tJould's 'Origin of R«ligiuu8 Belief* 
and 'CuriouH Myths of the Middle Atses/ 

F. K. Huline'H • Mytbhind,' 18815. 

Benjamin Thori)e"H ' Northern Mythology.' 

Keiglitluy'K ' Fairy Mytljolojf)'.' 


The following two works of T. F. Thiselton- 
Dyer, wJiich I found in ' The English Cata- 
logue,' may be aerviceable among others s 
' Church-Lore Gleanings ' (1891); 'Ghost- 
World' (1893). H. Kbebs. 

The Doeothy Vernon Legend (10 S. vi. 
321, 382, 432, 513).— In 1845 a book was 
written by the Baroness de la Calabrella, 
entitled ' Evenings at Haddon Hall,' with 
\ignette illustrations by George Cattermole. 
These vignettes have 'been transferred to 
' Tales of the Genii ' in " Bohn's Ulustrated 
Library." The frontispiece in the original 
work depicted the garden front of Haddon 
Hall. John Pickfobd, M.A, 

Kewlwunie Rectory, 

" Set trp my (his) rest" (10 S- vi. 509). 
—Fully explained in Nares's * Glossary.* 
From the game of priniero, meaning to stand 
upon the cards you have in your hand, in 
the hop© that they may win. In playin^^ 
r^ingt-un a player is similarly said ** to stand." 
It means then to be satisfied with, to rely 
upon as sufficient, to be content. Prior 
uses it in a double sense, as a kind of pun. 
Nares gives fifteen examples. 

Walter W. Skeat. 

The meaning of the phrase " to set up 
one's rest " — now obsolete, but fairly com- 
mon in the seventeenth centurj-— ^is (1) to 
make up one's mtnd. to commit oneself 
unreser\'edly to a course ; (2) to pause for 
rest, to halt. 

In the first quotation from Pepys the 
diarist would appear to mean that he had 
made up his mind to be ** somewhat scanter 
of his presence " at the plays he loved so 
well until Easter, or, as he adds in a praise- 
worthily self-tlenying mood, *' if not Wliit- 

In the second Pepys's meaning, when read 
with the context, seems to be that the aocom- 
modating host, Mr. Povey, hat! committed 
himself unreserx'edly to the coiirse of pro- 
viding his guests with whatever they might 
choose to i»k for. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vil jan. n, m 

The phrase is used in a different sense 
from the above in the lines from Prior, and 
is there employed in its literal sense, 
that is to say, to pause for rest or to halt. 
(It will be remembered that Shakespeare 
uses it in a somewhat similar manner in 

Mving Lear,' I. i. 125-6: "I thought 

to set my rest On her kind nursery," and 
in * Romeo and Juliet/ V. iii. 109-10.) This 
view 86ems to be borne out in the subse- 
quent lines in ' A Better Answer ' : — 
So when I am weary'd with waiidcring all day ; 

To thee, my deliKnt, in the evening I oome ; 
Nu matter wnat beauties I saw in my way : 

They were but my visits, but thou art my home. 


Although the phrase sometimes diverged 
slightly from its ori^al meaning, "to set 
up one's rest " certainly seems to have con- 
veyed the sense originally of " to make up 
one's mind." Laimcelot, famished in the 
service of Shylock, " set up his rest to run 
away" (11. ii.). Beaumont and Fletcher, 

* Monsietur Thomas,' IV. ix. : — 

Faith, sir, my rest is up, 

And what I now pull snail no more afflict me. 

Than if I played at 8i)an-eounter. 

Middleton, ' Spanish Gypsy ' (IV. ii.) : 
*' Could I sot up my rest that he were lost." 


The phrase is Shakespeare's. Romeo says : 
O, here 
Will I set up my cverlastinK rest. 
And surely he means that ho will take his 
rest for ever, otherwise die. This inter- 
pretation is confirmed by the passages 
quoted from Pepys and Prior, for in them 
tne phrase must mean " take my (or his) 
rest. Steevens ^ ays tliat it means " to 
be determined to any purpose " ; and no 
doubt it does mean this in Act IV^. of 

* Romeo and Juliet ' : — 

The County Paris liatli set up his rest 

That you shall rest but little. 

E. Yabdley. 
As the perusal of Pepys's ' Diary ' is to 
me a constantly renewed recreation, and I 
do not remember ever stumbUng at the use 
of this phrase, I presume — i)erliaps ignorantly 
— its meaning has been sufficiently obvious 
to me. In the instance first quoted by 
T. M. W. does not tlio diarist record his 
intention to discontinue for a time going to 
plays ? Again, in the second quotation, 
Pepys infers that the entertainment pro- 
vided by his host was so bountiful that he 
is not likely to renew it for some little time 
bo come. 
So Prior, with the usucd poetic licence. 

describes the sun, at the close of dw, dii- 
continuing for a time the labour of shkdn^ 
I fancy that this sense of '* rest " is not qnito 
obsolete. T. M. W. has probably hetid it 
said of an actor, temporarily out of m 
engagement, that he was " resting," aodthi 
term is constantly in use of other wockM 
temporarily out of employment. 

F. A. RussEix. 
4, Nelgarde Road, Catford, S.E. 

Three-Candlb Folk-lore .(10 S. vi 
508). — In the old days of candles as ^ 
ordinary way of lightins up a room it mi 
considered to be unlucky for any one to; 
bring a lighted candle into a room where tM-j 
were already aUght, euid some one was m^ 
to blow one of them out, just in the saat^ 
way as a dash would be made at a tafab 
when a knife and fork lay crossed. Wheal 
was a boy folks used to see many thiny 
which ^ave tliem ** freets " : such straagi 
happemngs as tliree candles moving aboOlt 
death signs, beckoning fingers, and ^oili 
at certain comers standing with their lieodi 
under their arms — all " sure an* sartin token 
o' summat gooin' ter happen.'* I knew of 
several Derbysliire villagers who wen 
*' gUted " in the way of reading ** eiffm,* 
and finding in commonplace things " omeos" 
for good or bad. Thos. Ratoldr. 


Sir Thomas Davis, Lord Mayor or 
London, 1677 (10 S. vi. 388, 431).— Itmiy 
interest Col. Arnoll Davis to know that 
Sir Thomas Davis (spelt variously Davieik 
Davys, and Davy) bore for arms Or, • 
chevron between three mullets pierced saUe. 
Crest : On a chapeau ppr. a demi-lion ram- 
pant or (Burke's General Armory *). 


A Knighthood of 1603 (10 S. vi. 18l» 
257, 474 ; \'ii. 16).— I should like to supi)le- 
ment my reply at tlie last reference by saying 
that it is important to note the difftfeoM 
between the information supplied by Jfr 
Hughes at 10 S. vi. 181, and that given in 
Burke's * Landed CJentry,' as follows : — 

"Sir (torman Pole, of Radboumc, bapt. ISti,* 
distinguished commander, who served against tw 
•SiMuish Armada, and was made a Knieht Bannflnft 
for his good services in Ireland, wider the Lorf 
Deputy Mount joy, 1509." 

This statement, apparently founded upon 
the inscription on the knight's mural mxaor 
ment in Kadbourne Church — alluded to 
by Mr. Hughes — now appears in need o(t 

At the first and second references tli0 

vu. ifA^. 19. 1907] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


or prrr -Tv-httou of German or 
wa^ d. From its Latin 

JoniJHu...^ .„,uii»e, with tlie French, 
in. with the feiuinino Germaino, and 
tica! with Jenny n. w^iich btvtame 
gland a 8Ui*naine — written CJfrnnyn iik 
PttsUm Letters,' i* llJU» Can' any 
3ndt?nl suggest the reason for it-a 
as a uanie in the family of Polo of 

I de la Pole— b. 1482 {?), d. 1552/3 
ourne, Esq. (great-grandfather of 
] knight), waa tlie first so named, 
I of his daughters, .Jane, married her 
i fourth cousin CJemian PoU>, of Wake- 
Derby, Esq., who died in 1588, 
i'enty-five, witlioat siuAaving issue. 
H. E. E. Chambehs. 
, Bishop's Tawton, Bartistaifh;. 


«ti»iN-G Lily (10 S. vii. 1). — 
Set ol 1 ickitlVs poetry without reference 
i ballad of " Colin and Lucy * is ineoni- 

Lr\ it are well-known Unos : — 
K hcAr A voire vou cftiinot hear 
f • -■ -^ '^rAy: 

, are the following lines : — 

httVf Villi Hci ti ,i lilv |iAle 
' iid ? 
niiiiK mnid. 

>viously tl il of Lady Anne 

verse : — 
oytocl like a lily beat down by the bail, 
are sirmlar thouglits in classical 
agUflh poetry : ' Iliad/ book viii. 
-8 ; ' -Eneid,' book ix. \l 435-7 ; 
Borphoset?,* book x. 11. 190-95. Ovid 
have bern the 6r8t to mention the 
^he drouping flower. 1 subjoin a 
' ^li parallel passages : — 

I hiinu the head 
nHth frost, or gmsw lient down with 
' Titus AiidrouioiiM.' 
rflowor, wipchftrged wnth dew,Hh«A weena. 
J^Iiltoo, ' SfVmMtjD Agonistes. 
^WcrcharRrtl with raiu, they bend 
*" I hnndft. 

Wnllor, 'To my Lord Admiral.* 
in hia * Fair^* Mythology ' 
»k. a somewhat toolwh remark : 

■ K.'l,.. r,.-f. ..,<:,. ,,|.,r.. ■ ... 'M..I ..11 ,,,,^ 

■t '•'lUi fir*.' M.c h vU'jrti, 'Ihc Iji-Ijii 
rdiVMUx) of it, such jio«tr>- van jinxlu. 

' ill not gonn. 

A few ytmra ago an 
1 loat m« way waa 

found dead Jwith his coat turned. He 
evidently thought that the fairies had 
misled him. Keightley's own book showa 
abundantly that there exiiittid quite up to 
hi:^ tijne the belief in fairies amongst the 
lower orders. 1 do not think that it ever 
reached n^uch higher. Shakspeare and 
Milton, though they wrote about fairies, 
did not beUeve in them. E. Yardley. 

Bell Inscriptions at Siresa (10 S. vL 
465). — Mr. Dodoson's first inscription re- 
calls the inscription on the Vatican Obelisk : 
" Ecee Crux Domini — Fugite partes ad- 
versa? — Vicit Leo de tribu Juda," the last 
clause of which is a quotation from the 
Apocalypse (v, 5). This obelisk was ori- 
ginally brought from Heliopolig by Caligula, 
who set it up " inter duaa metos " (i.e., in 
the middle of the spina) of the circus on 
the Vatican, which he built, and Nero 
finished. Near this obelisk St. Peter was 
martyred about 67 a.d. It remained 
in situ till it waa removed by Sixtus V. to 
its present position. The inscription dates 
from this removal in 1586» on wliich occa- 
sion the round ball at the top — which in tho 
Middle Ages wa^, without any liistoricol 
foundation, supposed to contain the aahea 
of Julius Ca?sar — waa replaced by the pre- 
sent cross, in which a relic of the True Cross 
is enclosed. John B. Wainewbioht. 


S. VI. 507). — These letters have not been 
addod to any of tho English e<litions of Sir 
G. O. Trevelyan's ' Life and Letters of Lord 
^lacaulay.' * W. H. Feet. 

:iJ>, Paternoster Row, E.G. 

Admiral Ben^bow's Dkath (10 S. vii. 7). — 
The words of ' Admiral Benbow ' are inter- 
esting, showing several variations from those 
printed by HalUwell in ' Early Naval 
Ballads of England ' and also frurii those 
printi^ii in ChttppelFs ' Popular Music of tho 
Olden Time.' The latter took liis version, 
words and music, from a broadside pub- 
lished early in the eighteenth century ; it 
includes one more stanza than Bi)pear8 on 
p. 7, ante. 

Benbow, son of Col. John Benbow. of 
Sliropshire, commenced his career as a 
sailor before the mast, and rose to the rank 
of admiral. His portrait may be seen in 
Hampton Court Palace and in Shrewsbury 
Town Hall. William H. CtJTVLMTNos. ' 

For a version of the words and tune of 
tliis song, with exhaustive notes and refcsr- 
encea, see the Journal of the Folk-Song 
Society, vol. ii. part ix, p. 23G. 11 tlv© ^vs^Aid 


NOTES AND QUERIES. Uo s. til jas. i^ bb. 

sung at Hawkstone was not printed with 
the words, I feel sore that the hon. secretary 
of the Folk-Song Society, Miss Lucy Broad- 
wood, 84, Carlisle Mansions, Victoria Street, 
Westminst«>, would be very glad to obtain 
a transcript of it. W. Percy Mebsick. 

In *The Horkey,' a ballad by Robert 
Bloomfield containing a niine of Su£Eolk 
provincialisms, occurs in the description of 
the harvest party at Farmer Cheerum's the 
following stanza i; — 

John Bung * Old Benbow,' loud and strouR. 

And I, ' The Constant Swain ' ; 
" Cheer up, my lads," was Simon's song, 
"Well conquer them again." 
This may be the song mentioned by Mr. 
SouTHAM. Admiral Benbow died from the 
effect of his amputated leg at Kingston, in 
Jamaica, in 1702. Capts. Kirkby and Wade 
were sliot on board the Bristol at Plymouth 
in 1703 for cowardice. 

John Pickford, M.A. 
Newboume Rectory, Woodbridge. 

Blake's Songs: an Early pRrv'ATE 
Reprint (10 S. vi. 421, 473, 611). The copy 
of Blake's ' Songs of Innocence and of Ex- 
perience' which Messrs. Methuen will 
reproduce in their forthcoming issue is the 
one lately in the possession of Lord Crewe, 
which was sold in 1903 for 3002. This is, 
presumably, the copy described by Mr. 
Sampson in his invaluable edition of Blake's 
poems, as follows : — 

"54 plates, each i^rinted on a seiiarate leaf. 
Foliated by Blake 1-54. Dated watermark 1818. 
Plates printed in brown. Delicately coloured, with 
wide wash borders." 

A collation of it is given in Table III. of the 
Bibliographical Preface of the above men- 
tioned work, pp. 82-3. 

The ' Songs ' in Messrs. Methuen's edition 
will form the second volume of ' William 
Blake ' under Mr. Laurence Binyon's editor- 
ship. The first volume, published last 
November, contained * The illustrations of 
the Book of Job,* prefaced by a study of 
Blake, the man, the artist, and the poet. 
s. butterworth. 

Gamelshiel Castle, Haddingtonshire 
(10 S. vii. 8). — Of this tower, which pro- 
bably was a strength of the Hepbums, 
notliing remains but the shattered east end 
of the keep, with walls 4 ft. 6 in. thick. 
M'Gibbon and Ross (* Castellated and 
Domestic Architecture,' vol. iii.) refer it 
tentatively to the sixteenth century, and it 
is one of an innumerable series of border 
peles which stand, or stood, in the valley of 
the Tweed. M&. Geumell should consult 

the indices to thel* Rotuli Scotis' 
* Inquisitiones,' sources of mudi 
information as to former owners of 
and houses in Scotland. 

Herrebt Maxwkil 

Bacchanals or Bao-o'-Naim (10 8. ii 
427, 490).— Though not of much importooi 
a slight error in replies given may be nfl 
tioned. *' The Bag of Nails " at Loac^ 
in Essex, has ceased to exist as an ' 
having been converted into a groeeiy 
and post-office some years ago. 

I. Chalkley Gocuk 

Doncaster : Image of the BtB 
Virgin (10 S. x-ii. 9). — The image ol 
B.V.M. at Doncaster was an object of < ^ 
veneration in Yorkshire. Thus Wili 
Ecopp, rector of Heslerton, by his 
1472, desires a pilgrimage to be 
**Beat8e Marise de Doncaster" ('Ti 
Ebor.,' iii. 201 ) ; and in 1507 Dame Cathid 
Hastings bequeaths " to our Lady of I> 
castre my tawny chamlett gown " (iv. 20 
The image was probably in the chapel 
Our Lady at the bridge-end (Hunter, * Bo 
Yorkshire,' i. 19), where there was a cw 
with niches for three images. In 1518 
York tradesman required his wife to mil 
a pilgrimage to "' the roode of Daooiri 
at the brigge ende " (' Test. Ebor.,' iv. 8* 

Curious accounts of the burning of Ml 
figures at Smithfield, Clielsea, and else^ 
are in Wriothesley's ' Chronicle,* i. 74-5, 1 
and in Crakanthorp's * Defensio Eodei 
Anglican*,' ed. 1847, p. 691 ; but thatfr* 
Doncaster is not mentioned. W. C. B. 

See ' Letters and Papers Henry VOL 
vol. xiu. i. 1064, 1177 ; li. 860, 1280 (f. ^ 
The image in question stood in the CarnuHl 
Church at Doncaster. and was removed ■ 
the Archbishop before 17 Nov., 1638. J 
it was removed to London, it was poni^ 
biunt at Smithfield, a s La timer su^qgoM 
it should be. Henry Vm., before his «< 
for Protestantism had awakened, had M 
a candle perpetually burning before Ol 
Lady of Doncaster. 

John B. Wainewrioh*. 

One cannot answer as to tlie bun4 
but the first entry in the volume of Ken^ 
MSS., issued by the Historical Manuacef 
Commission about 1904-5 deals with 
reputed miracle at Doncaster, under dl 
15 July, 1524. and gives " testimony 1 
William Nicolson and others to a xnifi 
worked upon them by which they esoif 
drowning " : " All the company ...A 
call and cry to Allmighti God and to c 

1 a viL j^. 10. 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Bid Leuiy, whose yinage is honorde and 

opahcpt in the Why te Frecrcs of Doncaater," 

See further The Antiquary^ February, 

^95, p. 64, * A Miracle at Doncaeter,' where 

^fuli ocoouut of what happened is given. 

[A. C. H. lilao thanked for reply.] 

Eleajtor op Casttle; her Tomb (10 S. 
fii. 8),— The lat« Mr. WilUam Burges, R.A., 

Hys of tlui* eflfigj' : — 

"On evinuiiUMj; the jittttue we il Hoover the i*om« 
<3onventiotmlitie'* 4U w« see in thnt (»f Henry III. 
nri»>«'^. the line of the low( '^ ' ■ - '- Mght, the 
lie iif th« n<we iire finmll ^i iii.stHJiee 

strftitfht); thrrc' is n«it - in the 

ftonth, Tiut thf miihllo Uuc ii,m:.s iluun a httlo ^t 
ither end, iviid the hwir Huwh down thi* luiok in 
, -TCry ntnnjjr wavy lines. Now filtviiior nl the time 
•«jf ner death wiw over forty yeAr>. <ti age, and had 
Tiad pr-Acml children; it is thcn.'fore moat irn- 
nit this ciin fie a -tfttue. and, to 

■^we^ Wf are tli : for nowever 

vt.....^.:- -u would httve IjtM n .- .....r Heen the jT^al 
likent'Jiwi."* of Henry III. »nd ot Kleanor. it is »tiil 
jDdore so to have the ideiil IwMuty of one of tlxo 
ru-at jicHoda of mrt hnnded d«wn to u« in enduring 
riww. * 
Mr. W. J. Lottie's comment on this ('West- 
minster Abbey,' 1890, p. 33) i* as follows : — 
"It ■': ' 1 ' '" " '' i' isnotliko 

thcni I at least 

Inivc i I in-law, 

11' I '\ III,, ]>vihu|ii!>, tii^ till c^jtit«niiH>iiiiy acootuit-s 
111 >.L<- iuni an ugly little nmu, with a H<]uint, the 

1H.r!:.Lir iiiny l*e ifrtltereii ; but tltnt it is more or 
_ e- 1 iM.(tn\it, however iimc-h idc&lixc<l. woald 
riuiii, if oidy >)ccAUHc of the way in whioh 
ft\Aturi« Hiifiwor to what vc know wa.s the 
racter of the king." 

In this connexion it may he worth re- 
aemberinc that Edward 1. caused a con- 
ventional lu'a<1 to be placed upon his coins 
— a type which persisted, with little change, 
from 1279 untU 1504, when Henry Vil. had 
his own portrait in profile stamped upon hiA 
new sliilling. 

Of the other kingn and queens in the Con- 

feeaor'ii Chapel. Edward L and Henry V. 

of course have no efligies ; that of Ed- 

rard 111. "^ in remarkable aa having connected 

ixth it the tradition that the features have 

fii ca8t from a mould taken after death " ; 

aat of hi* queen, Philippa, " is probably," 

Mr. B urges, '* the first one in West- 

\libey which has any claims to be 

i a portrait " ; while that of 

4cluud 11. (with his first wife, Amie of 

DhcnuH.U yvtLA tna<^le in the king's lifetime, 

tl*' I '<ir*Hl both with his great 

■ \>v>y and with the earlier 

d and Ilia three patron 


the }lf«donua and 
A. R« Bavlev. 

Cuidlsai^Mezzofanti: Jere.miah Citbtim 
(10 S. vii. 6).— In November, 1899, I arrived 
at Biu*g ira Spreewald, in order tti pick up a 
little Wendish, wliich is well spoken tJiere. 
1 met in the inn Dr. G. J. J. Sauerwein, who 
had done much work for the British and 
Foreign Bible Society and for diverse 
hbraries in Germany, wliere he was imi- 
versally known as " the German Mezzo- 
fanti." Himself descended from a long Une 
of Lutheran pastors in the kingdom of 
Hanover, he introduced me to the Lutheran 
rector of Burg, who presented me with 
some books in the curious old Slavonic 
tongue in which I Jiad heard liim preach in a 
church which, like those of French Bask- 
land, has galleries for the men, while the 
women occupy the parterre. He persuaded 
me to prolong my stay there ; so that I was 
able to converse with him for two days. It 
was difficult, owing to his excessive modesty 
(which accounts for the fact that, out of his 
many publications, only five are recorded 
in the Catalogue of the British Museum), 
to find out how many language.s he knew ; 
but they must have been more thanahundred, 
though lie did not know them all equally 
well. Ho had even learned a certain amoiuit 
of Heuskara, and in many letters encoiu-aged 
mo in my pursuit of that unjustly neglected 
language. When he died in Norway 
about two years ago, the newspapers of 
Christiania. where he passed some days 
withTme in 1903, published many accounts 
of him. He was buried in Kant's city of 
Konigsberg. Edwabd S. Doduson. 

Mont mental Inscriptions : St. Faith 
( 10 S. vi. 225).— With reference to W. E. B.'s 
querj', the following may be of interest. 
The parish church of Overbury, Worcester- 
shire, is dedicated to St. Faith. In the 
• Register of Worcester Prior>', a.D. 1240,* 
published by the Camden Society (pp. 76b 
and 77b), in an account of a dispute respect- 
ing the advowson of Berrow, it is stated tliat 
a certain Robert *' recogno\'it et concessit 
Deo et eccleaiae Sanctic Fidis de Llverbir* 
jjrjsedictam capellam de la Bereg." From 
this it would appear that the saint's name 
in Latin was of the tliird declension, tho 
genitive case being " Fidis,'* and the nomi- 
native, presumably, *" Fides." 

T. Glyxn. 

S.r.Q.R. (10 8. vi. 4ft7).— This legend, 
slightly altered to 8.P.Q.A., is very much 
in evidence at Antwerp. A popular inter- 
pretation is the inhospitable sentiment* 
" Surtcz, poUsson ; quitt^sz Anvers." 



NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. jax 

"Rombiand" (10 8. vi, 389, 432)-— 
'* Roomy ^* IB in common use on TjTieside, 
and probably elsewhere, for *' spacious," 
said of a room. It is eaid of ganiiente alsio ; 
when trouMTs, eay, are too large, they are 
described as ** roomy." R. B — b. 

Bouth 8hteld& 


S. vi. 485).— I have always thought that 
the meaning of tliis name was perfectly clear, 
and that» given that meaning, the pronuncia- 
tion with the Btrees on the syllable " ma ^^ 
was quite ob\'iaue. The meaning is *' Son 
of the 8©a." The 8>'llable " na '* ia the 
feminine Kenitive singular of the definite 
article, and tlie word *' mara *' is the genitive 
Bingular of the feminine noun *' muir/' the 
aea^ Compare the Welsh name Morgan = 
sea-begotten. H. T. W. 

Welsh A (10 S. vi. 428).-^Prol Anwyl 
in liis ' Welsh Grammar ' (Sonnenschein's 
*' Parallel Grammar Series," 1898) says : 
** a represents the nom. and ace. of the Old 
Brythonic relative.*' For example, we have 
in normal order ran y difn^ the man sings ; 
but in inverted order, where dyn (man) is to 
be emphasized, y dyn a gan^ (it is) the man 
who smgs. Fred. G. Ackebley. 

irriadletou, Clitheroe. 


A JT*"' EnfplUh Dictionary oti ffinforicai PrineipftA. 
— Vol. \a. I^N {Mtwe-MiMrih). ByHetiry 
Bradley, Hon, M-A. (Oxford, Clarendon PrejgfiJ 
TjMiKK the enlightened oltnt^c of Dr. Henry 
Brfldley a. doable ecctton of tfie ^rea.t dictionary 
arrhes ajs a new y^itr's gift to philolof^. It) this 
the cuatomarjr Huiseriarity over rivnl undertakingis 
isj manifested, 3,S)0 wonfi Agaiitat 2,459 being the 
dtH]^iarity in tna c^^e of the moet fornndable com- 
]i«tttjoi) ; while the number of illustrative iiuota- 
tiaaa ib 13,931, A^aine I no more in any other case 
than 1,414. In ttfnint W(§ are fronted with proof 
of the encyclo|Hedic nature of the inforruAtion now 
conveytid. tlio Jirst word beiiii^ mf:*iif, mi arltorcfl 
»pelJiiig of A ni|:lo- French m^en, mean. In fendahsm 
*'meHiie lord,' _ a lord who holds ftti estabe of n 
BniKTior lord, ia first em] )loyed by Selden, 'Titlefl 
of Honour/ iti 16H, Thirty-nine years earlier is 
*' meane land," mcBnAlty ; while " mesne process " 
is eneouut«rvd in 1625. Adverbially=at s time 
interinediatt Iwtwecn two other tim&e, mfjme occurs 
HO c»rly a« 143*. (St^tsond com» an erudite article 
Of I nt«^-, the combining form of Greek iiiero^-, 
middle, krj^ely employed in seienttfio ]ihrM0oloKy, 
chjetl}^ ouatomioal, but Bometimes, aa in mtj/ock, & 
term in Greek prtwody, used in liters tut^e, or, as 
ile^griotamia, in geography, Meitqiiifa, mtAgrfit^ 
are curious forms for moetine, onc^ comtnou, but 

obsolete since the Bsventeentli cent 
iiiforniatiotL in aui»iilied uodo' mtMS, a **i 
being not an etyniologioally distinct i 
natural, though very n»ceot develofwa 

older HeuiWB. Jlfe^nw*, dog^a lar4og, j 
Irit^h. Under mftftr miriit perh&i)» hat 
even with wjme form of nrot«)t, the n 
oocfUjJonal and affected, of the word i 
suoh ofi "Mep»er Ludovioo" (for U 
carious and instruottve article de&li 
introduction into the New Teatametit c 
Messiah, Mt^tmgt is said t<j Xm " p: 
graphic eomij>tion of '*meanage,'' tl 
difficulty ]g felt to stand in the w 
etymology. Metftetpte, the finest order o 
ia coujtidered of ob«oure origin. Our 
meao- ajipty also to mefa-, thoa^ h a misa] 
of the meaning of mttaphnmc^ ia the 
(?oniMient, and the menKes in which mt 
are more numerous than those of mesio 
Hj^aks of jnitagrammcttif'm in conm 
anofframrtttifijtffi. The varione form* 
morphoitf BUiiiily rnuch curious informat 
tfittaphti^cm wo find the ori[|inal Bt-nse c 
it« ajiplication. with a certain amount t 
to id^fl consiaered too auhtle, tcx» ab 
which ia more than phynical, as wht 
RpeakR of ** Fat« and metatihynlcall 
Johnflon'a elasaifioatioii of Donne, Con 
metaphysical iioet«. Sense 6 of mttc, X* 
by meo^ture. to allot itrftiBo, re warn, 
oomnion till the nineteenth centurj', 1 
though only in literary use, the chief cu 
Many (excellent illuifitrations are furoir 
x\m of mfitor. Under nw/f-r are g 
nonce- words like Sydney Smiths "1 
Jfefktnks ia tiiaid to be now archteo 
iweticaL This is doubtless true, 
seem to recall vaguely sonw in 
familiar use. The form - hiatorj of t 
probably HUjiplied for the tir^t time, 
aoeountof nnffhod is provided, esiteeial! 
to medicine : while the spplieation of 
the followers of Wesley ia finely sho 
MtfhifMtfah the corruption " Methu^al 
Hur>'ivefl, is said to be aftvr Jerusalem, 
in ffi^ticti/oits from "timid'' to "ove] 
noteworthy. Of ntttre an account full 
fdven, Att allusion in Milton and o1 
■* vifJroiiolitaH toe" is justly wvid to 
D'Avenant aeems to havo been the hrt 
LondoLi a " MetropoliH." J/pCf/e was o 
M,me word as jnetaJ. Of lUfi'" in ^*a^ii 
full hiBtory ispiven, ineludirsK the fact, r 
known, that the vt^trA, Htable^, were 
iqnot ut Churinp CroEw where the royal 
formerly mewed. EveljTi — whose 
publisihed in UiK2, aHci'Jl.>ed to PrJuce 
invention of " Me?.Ko Tinto"— is not 
mt'tition the term, .which is enoount^ref 
Ah'eliif has an iiitercKtitiK history, j 
little world, is of very early occurrence 
is mot with in 1056, and i9 ui^ed bv M 
Atidtkit, a manure he«p, is regarded 
Kests's use of mvitnai^ in the ' Ode to a 
might have lievn quoted. Mind, wi 
menntngn, is the subjeet of much learn 
III miiM, on excavation, the ori^rin o 
word min^ is doubt fuL Concerning 
po«seasive T^ronoun much valuable ij 
affortled. Miufrni trattt- is fomid so 
Mitiimntrt: ta Hrst founds oa might bo 

la 8. viL jax- 19, 1907.J NOTES AND QUERIES. 


(in intci'e«tinp hfntory. 
fic,^ is muoJi historical 

occur* in Dryrlen. Minx. 
I*et iluK« <^ iiei't Kii'L. id of obscure oriKin. An 
tiole on the prefix jni*- deeerve* dotw btudy. 

A<M< Itamble in the CftL%Miat. By Hugh E. P. 

PliiU, M.A. (Oxford, BUckwell.) 
At 10 8. IV. 23H we iiiMertvtl A lon^ roAnew of Mi . 
I*l»tt*s iirevioiiM vtiUimfN * Bvm-hvb in theClansics,' 
niid wc nri" gliid U) iiotici' m his jireseut closaioal 
''oUft iKHlritlH " ahuiiiltiut evkleuce that he liaa 
l»roHt*Hi hy ovir e<imriient«i and rvdclitions. Iuj)ar- 
ticulftr, he iitm lUfw added much interest Irom 
U<ii<weirM * Johnson' an<l Tennjf*«.)n't* * Life' hy his 
turn, M'hich we mentioned as eajiitAl soiucck of 
elassicAl i|UOtation and comment. 

Mr. Piatt talks of pro&aio name?: derived from 
numerals, hut -we do not think th' names, 

where their meaning is not readily • i.*-., 

jtonernlly- are felt to he ]ii-ui44ic u. ..i umes, 

jt<« in the i'a»ii'*i of Seiitinius Tennyson and Doeinia 

IMiMjre, The <Jr«ekf» nnd I.ntin", wr <louht not, 
diffmxl from us in v tuy and itg 

i}{>]Kwito, and mo do cw Arnold 

is quit* fair M'hen hi . . ..i.^j. . i. ... l.-^say on the 
Function of CnliciMni,' at the touch of groftfiueas 
in our race shown by *' Ihf nntnrsl ^»rnwth nmutigst 
UMof »uch hideoiittii "' ' i.;u'inH, 

Bu}{)j: ! In lonni n ur in 

this rewfn*et than ' ( , ! ; hy 

the liiMtiLH there whji no V\ ruiu'i:, j»ii»ir thinK ! ' 
There wwrt* jir«il»ah|y e«juallv u^ly nauie* in (jireeoo ; 
hut 1 : itliAo tiieir U)!l>ne8«, nor did 


Ml of thp doubt whether Lucun 

a i«»ei. lie may lie intervfited to know that 

ley preferrfxl him to Vir^ril. To ua he is little 

^ more than an intiriit^'d rhetorician, and lun lai>8eH 
in tMie art^ hnrtlly (>alanced try hit< tine itraise of 

To tno lint of jiM 
from the *Cena I 
totum dirta " for " 
** a liargee," the v^ 
Ijareutlyt thin t-vil i 

Some of tip 
aiiplicatiooH i 

- ises mi($ht be added 

mib' "Omnium tex- 

_^ like a trtxiftcr " or 

( Rotue having, ap- 

1. : I "'I if-r. 

■:"— i.C modem 

1 phrases — »e©m 

i .^»rt of thing de- 

and boredom unless the 

lire as apt. Mr. K. H. 

«inje enviifetic e van (fell sij*, winch w, 

Fn '! Hf'nrvTV.,' IIL i., wetind 

1 I ir l)e>iij*t 

I l>e more \ivid ^ 

_ -. -Ut' «ae of canine 

- we huve heartl <A a nute 
* meeting where two men 
III tlic line 
1! 1 amor iierditus inter eo^ 

V from the l>ix5 tor's liijs, Shilleto 


II • > puerii* onndtiwre oymbcui, 
. .,;*iiu» Butler habeUteos. 

Ha\"ing done bo, be slid the paper on to l>r. Butler's - 
desk. *' Psha, btjy, phIim ! " W4i* all the answer 
made him; "but,' H«id Shdleto. "the Utictor 
folded the jHiper carefully up and put it in his 

Thin, with mueh other ' ' " ' h 

from u ni'^jlecteii hook, i 

S>uiiuel Butler," by his • . . ;, 

185X5). VVe give from menioty .Shilleto' »» epigram on 
(•ladstone. which we have never seen in jirint, 
though it lias doubtless at>pca»-ed somewhere :— 

Unde itiihi lapidcm fieterem t(UO lajtua eum ctii 
Inditur a heto nomen et a lapide. 

Ciray's ' Letters,' which should ?»e read in the 
excellent edition of Mr, Duncan Tovey, afford, a* 
might be expected, much inflight into the delii;ht» 
of clasisical learning imbil>ed at leisure. In vol. n., 
for instance, i.s a wag^iBh inrversion in a letter to 
Mason of 6 (3ctol>er, l7oO: "Your friend Dr. 
Plumptre ha* lately sat for his jHcturc to WjlBon. 
The motto, in larye letters (tbo mca.-»ure of which 
he him(*elf prwcrilje*!), ia» Non nuikina liKiuimur, 
8ed vivimu.^," i.e., "We don't say much, out we 
hold gocKl livinys." 

The sjtme volume ijuotea two refereimcs tm 
Juvenal x. 41 by Waljwile : " Servu* curru ixirtatur 
eixlcm," when Itoh, Inrmerly a waiter at White's, 
WAS returned for Parliament {\\. 9}; and ]►. 151 
offers the perversion :~ 

et fibi Countexs 
Ke placeat, ma amfielle ourru portatur eodem. 

^Ir. Piatt invents an odd reasim for the love of 
Horace in the Knglish jxjople, if. indeed. «ueh love 
Htill exi8t«. It seems fairly uh\-ioii>i that Horace 
repre*M.-nl.'* to jterfection tht *■ ' ■ ' - >f 

the mftii of the wurld— to tak 

careful of the man and the fK u. 

not to overtax vour diycstion, &c. It in ihe ver>' 
oi»i>osite of the dootrinea of ehivalrj', which exi»cct 
a man to Hcek danger for ita own sake and do 
quixotic things. 

TroUope is fairly veraoious in his detail, and we 
may therefore regard the following | Milage in the 
' Last Chronicle of Barset,' new " Library Edition "* 
(i. 391, as a testimony to the present deeav of in- 
terest and knowledge in (J reek. Mr, Crawley, the 
scholar and person, M'ho i» at his wits' end for 
enough to live on, " Imd tianf<ltttc<i into iiirek 
irregular verse the very noble iMiHad of l>_if»l Bate 
man, maintaining the fhjthm nnd the .i.t.„, ,,,,d 
hud rei>eated it with uncouth glee till 1 • r 

knew it all by heail. And when theri. » 

liim a tive-f»cMind note from some adr ■■■ 

ziiie editor as the price of the xanie,— U 

I he dcan'.s hand*,— he had brightenetl uj i.. i-^ * 1, 
and ha«l thought for an hour or two that e\-en yet 
the H orld would smile on him." 

Tlie nuxleni magazine editor would certfttnly 
smile at auch a misgntded attcmitt to net money out 
of him. He dtx-s not bother about «Tr.-'L ^i'"! if 
ht' had to do so, it is proliable that he w v 

.^ome one to rea<l it for him. Creek an. ■!>• 

and heroea figure now chiefly in advertisement'* of 
<ioap and (wtent fooda ! 

We end our notioe, aa on a former oc^"^"'" ~ -th 
an Oxford jest. It is re<.'onle<J by tin t 

DufF, and is certainly Ui» troitUo. }'' i 

deacon Denison wan standing lor a i- it 

Oriel, his next neiijhliour, an elderly i 'T 

matriculation at Uie smuo ooUeget m;w ^. ..i;u. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. .i.A 

"Would vou oblipte the father of a fAtnily hy telliiij{ 
him wh«U»er n/tf/utmt/o ia aiireiKisitiou or tne name 
of a heathen god ? " 

Wk have received & timely Announcement, in 
view nf the forthcomintr ** Tercentenary Coleora- 
tionfi of the Foimdini; of the Ctjlony of VirtnuiH by 
Cftjit. John Smith." MesHrn. AlacLehose have in 
the i»reflft the work« of Capt. John Smith, com- 
iiriHint; 'The flenernl History ot Virginiit, New 
KnKliind, nnd the Summer Isleii/ publii^hed in l&X ; 
*Tho True Travels, Adventures, ami Oh«ervAtio>i« 
of Captv John Smith,' his* own aeeount of hi* early 
life, jmliJiKhed in HJ3<.l ; nnd * A Sea iirammar,' |>ul>- 
lishe*! i" ifj"!/, ft trealise on the ship of his time and 
the manner of sailing and %htiiii; hen These 
extremely aciirce works will l)e reprinted in the 
name style as the jiuhlishers' editions of ' Hakhiyt' 
and * PurchtiH His fil^-inies.' The host thanks of 
the liteniry world are due to Mt'*irft. iluoLehiwe for 
their aflmirable euterj>rise in repuhlishiug famous 
worka of travel. 


Mkssrs. W. Bkou<;h & Sons, of BirminRham, 
send u« three oataloRues, Nos. 822-3-4, and, as tJjey 
state, each issue eontainn an entirely different 
sel'jotion. Collect* »rs of Alpine works will find 
preaentfttioji cojiieN from Whynificr of his rare firwt 
i^'ditioti of 'Scrambles anumj^ the Alns' aj»d hi« 
'Ti-avelti amonjjst the (Jrwit Anih^s cjf the Equator,' 
with Bpenial volume of niai*. 1(V, lO, Other items 
im?lude Thf: Art Joiinm/, 1862-92, 42 vols., 12/. 1'2*.; 
Bewicku 'Birdn' and *Quadru]«dNj' hiriie • j>ai)er, 
18U5-7, iV. iM, : n complete set of * Le Peintrc- 
Graveur,' by jBarteoh, 21 vols., Leijtaifi;, 1854-70. 
ftf. 10«. : the rare first edition of ' LavonRTo ' and 
the second of 'The Romany Rye,' Murray, -8, 
publi«her'8 cloth, !V. 10j<- : Burke's Works, !) vok., 
i^m, IL 1'<.: Bums, " LiV>rary Edition," 6 vols., 
4/. 4m,; Morriw'B * British Birds,' HV. Hk; Meyrickx 
*AnoJcnt Armour,' 1842, H/. tiw. : lirat edition of 
Carlyle'n * Frederick the (ireat,* IS-W-ftT), 4/. 4< ; 
BurtV>n'j« 'Arabian Night*,' r2(. 12^.; Neale's 

18 vol«.,*2tW. 

Mr. (»- A. Poyuder, of Readiutf, ha» in hiH Cata- 
logue 42 the rare tir«t edition of Fanny Burney's 
* The Wanderer,' 5 vols., 1814, 6/.; also 'Cecilia,' 
1782. '21. 18«. ^i'l und Johnson's "English Poets," 
^ vnl-s., 177i) 81 , (i\ Under Drama are ' The BritiKh 
Theatre,' "BeH'p British Library," 17^11, 22 vols., 
."V. 3m. j and Maswinncr's Works, 1779, '2/. The list 
unfler Berkshire includcM Coates'a 'Antitpiitie.s of 
Readinj:,' 1802, 2/. cU. Botany oompriMes ' A Selec- 
tion from Sowerby,' 3 vols, . ,V. .w. Under Nai»oleon 
are four uripnal water -otilo urn of St. Helena, on 
rice itttiMjr, 1S20, 2/ ; and tinder Jeremy Bentham ia 
n souvenir, beinp a moasi " ' morial rinijwitli 

miniature by J. Field, 11 .'V.. There are 

numerous «■■— ■ -f the j . uyx of the Royal 

Society it - f*s iwisued. 

Mr. C "U, of Manchester, includca in 

Catalogue 47, I'art 'J, many items relating to I^an- 
eaahire. Amoujf these are Henlraon's 'Pictorial 

Relics of ^" - • T ;,.,.., 1 o ^.Qig f^jJQ jg-g 

,4/,^^;'^ "f the Manor of Man- 

chcKtcr,' }- . 1(X*. ; and Lancftflhire 

Ant- -I'-p-i :- -',--.-•_ r ,,,. -,-7 


tini ~ r , . . , ]■ ' , ' . _ ' : 

first ediLiuu, in thu ori|(ia&i jMirtj^. 
'Davenport Dunn,' 4/,; Loftic'* ' 
Abbey,' 2.>h. (only 100 of thi 
being No. I); Malorv's 'Kin 
by RhyR, with dewigoa by 1; 
Motley's 'United Nclherlandfc, 
Edition," 4 vols., 1860-08. 3/, 3». . 

16-24, 3/. 10^. ; Hayley'H ' Life of R 

1809, If.; Rfujhf/ Mi^frlla)i>j,'\S{ 
copy has the names of the coiitnl. 
the lute Prof. Coningtoio ; und S(>i 
"Border I<:<lition,"48 vols., large i>tti«r. 
Under Me<lieal, in the Addenda, ia * ; 
of Medicine,' by manv writers, edited 
and Pla>-fair, 9 vols.", 181^-9, 5i. ,Vi. ; 
.Sr*ani«h is a fine tall coy.y of Pedro 
' Vocfthuli8ta,'<Jranada. b'lOfi, 15/. IJw. 

Mr. Robert Wild, of Burnl. I 

Among the :^28 items in \\ I 
Antiquities of the Deanery . ■; l i . . -.: . 
and tJiere is a list of odd voluniBs. 


by Allbtttt 
And niidv | 
de Aloda'f 

We must call gptcitd aJftttUion to the /oiJommr 

nottcfH :~ * ^ 

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such ftiJdreM as he wiahe;* to f*p])ear. Wh^tJ -m ^wvr 
mg <]\iene.'*, or making r. ' : „„ 

entries in the paper, cn ,^ 

mit in i»arentheseH, iim , . .,.;^^ ^^_, c vj*c6 

heading, the .neiie*), volume, and page or i)iure« tn 
which they refer. CorresiHjndenta who rmU 
quones are miuested to head the second ajm. 
municatuin "Duplicate." 

W^K cannot undertake to advise corre«poodente 
aa to the value of old book.^ and other objootB or «■ 
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-r. M. W. ("Double Yoar-date").-The fom, 
1 Jan., 16B6/7, is used to show that, ns 'V\ ^f »rri) 
wafi regarded a« the beginning of tlu ^j 

until 17.12, the date referTe«i to wa^ i ,, 

1 Jan., IfittJ. by wxiters of the perio^l, .:.,,..,,i, .i 
foUowe«l3l Dec. 1006; lutt it is reckoned by modera 
luHUjnam. a« I Jan.. 10b7. See the rcforenoe/ftt 
10 o. VI, .108. 

,- ^- \\ KC-\^ sAble cloud Turne forth her ailw 
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CON TENTS. -N<>. 1«1. 

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{Concluded from p. 23.) 
As regards the Rituation of the port of 
loseford. there is a document dat«d 1341, 
8 Aug., in which it ia stated that a ship 
iUing fron\ the port of Orwell to Colchester 
IB driven by str^« of weather into the port 
IGow'ford (Cah of Close Rolls, Edward IIL). 
Mr. Marsden quotes from the old Eriplish 
.euling directionH published by the Hakluj-t 
Society, but the old German-Dutch ' Sea- 
. Book, edited by Karl Kopprnann (Bremen, 
1876), has evidently escaped liis notice, 
although the sailing directions given therein 
for the eaat coast of England from Flam- 
borough Head (Mamberger hov^e) to 
LDwng«>nea8 Bjpe higlJy interesting both as 
pgarda Orwell and Goaeford. According 
the modem editor, the two known MSS. 
Inrp botli of the sixteenth century, but are 
{♦'Opted, at least in part«, from older sources. 
In chap. xiv. par. 28 we are first of all 
" ' that *' off Orwell lies an evil sand a 
nan mile from the shore, and the sand 
come nea^-er than six or seven 
at low water," whatever that 
This evil sand is shown in 
^ r'» • Marint^r'ft Mirrour,' lying paral- 
. U> tho ooaat, and stretching from Orford- 

nesse to opposite tlie Pole Head (now 
Landguard Point). The * Sea- Book ' then 
mentions the creat castle with many towers 
at Orford, and deacribea Orfordnesse. 

In par. 29 we are told that "if you wiflh 
to sail with a hea\-y ship into Orwell, you 
must take half a tide, when there is enough 
depth to get over all sands." Inside and 
outside lies a shoal (in the entrance) between 
the shingle bank and the Red Cliff, which 
shoal dries at low water. The shingle bank 
iif s on the east side, and is flat outside and 
(1< i-p inside. The mariner is further en- 
couraged not to be afraid of the shingle bank 
so long as he is in three fathoms of water 
(unde gy en suit de singele nicht schuwea 
umme dre vaderae). 

Par, 30 next gives directions how to get 
into Orwell (which, as I should have men- 
tioned before, is always named Non^elle). 
The mariner is told to sail westward until he 
sees a large tree, which stands near Harwicli 
(by norden Herwyk) over the water : and 
at the north end (nortende) of Harwich 
stands a great, roimd, plump tower on the 
gpit of land of tlie northern shore. When 
tne tree and the tower are so close together 
that one can just see through between them, 
" then you are in the deepest channel." 

We may skip the next paragraph, which 

S'ves directions as to how to get out of 
rwell. and proceed to par. 32, which states 
that if a ship arrixnng from the west wishes 
to get into Orwell, it has to sail along till 
you can see Goseford tower (GIa-evor«;li>r 
toren) west of Bawdsey Cliff (Baldcrsee 
Kleff). Full directions are then given for 
entering the harbour. 

Par. 33 finally describes another way of 
getting into Orwell. In this case one had 
to sail so far westward that Goseford tower 
(Glasevorder tome) could no longer be seen 
on the we»t side of the haven in the wood, 
and Orford hekd to be kept outside Bav^'dsey 
Cliff ; and one had to go west-south (westen 
suden) until one could see a large oak tree 
standing east of Ii>swich (SyweswickU two 
FInglish miles from Woodbridge (Walden- 
bruego). The tree was then to be brought 
to the west of the shingle bank (by westen 
de Singele). 

The sailing directions, I admit, are some- 
what difficult to understand without a con- 
temporary chart, but they prove beyond all 
doubt that Goseford tower was tiien still 
in existence and a good landmark for sailors, 
unlees 1 am mistaken. 

Mr. Marsden further mentions the fact 
that there has lonff been a tradition among 
the Harwich people that there was onco • 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vil Jax. », ] 

town on the West Rocks (called Cliff Foot 
Kocks on nineteenth-century charts). It is 
said that remains of buildings have been 
seen there and stones of buildings have 
been dr^ged up from the sea bottom. He 
has been told oy a dredgerman that his 
informant has himself seen part of a church 
spire dredged up. But Mr. Marsden dis- 
misses all this as " fishermen's tales " that 
are common on the east coast, and probflJbly 
have their origin in the fact that remains of 
the wholly or partially submerged towns 
of " Ravenspur *' (Ravenser and Ravenser- 
Odd ?), Dunwich, &c., have been found, 
but surely not on the West Rocks at Harwich. 
He admits there is no doubt that Walton 
Naze once extended much further to sea 
than it does now ; it wastes daily, and so 
long ago as the fourteenth century parts of 
the lands of " the church of London " in 
that locality were described as conaumpta 
per mare. If, however, by all this he means 
to imply that the West Rocks once formed 
part of the mainland, then the town which 
once stood there must also have been in the 
county of Essex and could not have been 
Orwell, as Morant asserts (' History of Essex,' 

§. 501), because the latter town belonged to 
uffolk, unless it stood on an island, off 
Walton Naze. 

Mr. Hurwood, in a paper read in Novem- 
ber, 1860, before the Institution of Civil 
Engineers * On the River Orwell and the 
Port of Ipswich,* referred to " an old map 
of England " from which '* it appeared 
that the locality on which Landguard Fort 
now stood was originally an island, and that 
the harbour had formerly two entrances ; 
the northern entrance, it might be assumed, 
had been closed up by travelling shingle." 

Landguard Fort was built — according to 
the same writer — in the reign of James I., 
for the defence of the harbour, and by an old 
picture it appeared that its site was then 
the extremity of Landguard Point. 

Morant also suggests that the rivers Stour 
and Orwell formerly flowed into the sea 
umder Bull's Cliff at Felixstowe, some dis- 
tance (2 1 miles) north of the present estuarj^; 
but — I agree with Mr. Marsden — this must 
have been a long time ago, probably not in 
historical times, and long before Orwell 

Samuel Dale (in 1730) refers to an old 
author who " sometime since affirmed " 
that the present entrance to Harwich harbour 
is artificial and of no old date, the old 
channel having been formerly on the other 
side of Landguard Fort, " which then stood 
in Essex." The old author in question was» 

no doubt, Edmund Gibson, the Bidu 
London and editor of one of the Ei 
editions of Camden's * Britannia,* ^ 
theor^^ Dale himself attacked in a 
dated February, 1703, and addresac 
Edward Lhwj'd, Keeper of the Ashm 
Repository in Oxford. It was publ 
in vol. xxiv. of the PhilosonhiccU Tra 
tions (concerning Harwich Cliff and the f 
foimd there). 

I quote below the passage from 
Taylor's MS. which gave occasion to 
to refer to his older contribution to 
literature of the subject : — 

"It is generally believed that the Stour 
formerly in a streighter current (than now it 
discharge itself into the sea about Hoasley 
under the highlandR of Walton-Goleness and ] 

stow in the County of Suffolk, betwixt i 

and Landguard Fort are, as they are rep 
certain remains of the old channel, whid 
neighbouring Inhabitants still call Fie.etti, reta 
at this day [1676] the tradition of the course a 
water, and the entrance into this haven to 
heretofore Ixjen by and tlirough them ; and 
sei|uently below them (North- East) to h&ve 
that iKjfore mentionc<l Ontium Stmiri.** 

But Hollesley Bay is 11 miles from L 
guard Point, and therefore a good dist 
beyond Bull's Cliff and Felixstowe; 
owing to the presence of the Iiigh It 
referred to by Taylor, tlie river could 1 
never flowed into the sea so iar north. 

Mr. Marsden's statement, however, i 
the harbour mouth has not materi 
changed its position for upwards of 
years, is equally incorrect. I have < 
to refer him to the Report of Capt. J 
Washington, R.N., pubhshed as Appendi 
of the ' Report of the Commissioners u 
the Subject of Harbours of Refuge * in ll 
from which it will suffice to quote tlie foil 
ing paragraph : — 

" But while the sea has gained ui)on the \aa 
the western ftho Essex ] side of the harbour 
having washed away Beacon Cliff], the contraiy 
taken place on the eastern or Suffolk side, wl 
within the last 30 years I^andgiiaixl Point lias gr 
out 1,.*}(K) feet, thercl)y blockinj; up the chS 
trance into the harlnmr ; so that where in the' 
1804 was a channel seven fathoms deep at low v' 
is now a shin;;Ic l)cn(,h as many feet above h 
water mark." 

This was in 1843. 

»^ The progress, however, was subsequec 
checked by the erection of a stone bw 
water, on the Essex side, run out from 
foot of Beacon Cliff, and by the removal 
dredging of several shoals within Ham 
harbour, the object of these works being 
restore the scour of the tidal streams to 
Landguard Point side of the entrance I 

m jiK, 2n, 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


» a bruaci faii-waj^ into the harbour. 
Iluala in (juestion w«*re the GrUtle, 
Cod, Ah ftp ¥\aU and Ahar 
I nertper to tlie SulTolk tlmn the 
larwich harbour — that ta, cf 
JrHi'll Ravc^n. 
tn dre<lging these slioals. the engineers 
1 on 8 January, 1851 : — 

1 1 tbt' nurltj ctiil ' *' "' ' 
1'^ nunilHT of 
_, n tour Uj tivt' iii< ■ i 

^%ts leet louK, with i« (Uul 

ctcU to^tether by ^^ -nl^il 

Their removal hiis iM-t-n a uiiitcuU 
iivi.' «j(iienition." 

reports mention that slow 
[liad been ma<ie owing to a con- 
Iquantity of sand-stone rock having 
i_at the Glutton Shoal, which might 

^1853. the engineers report that in 
lioal a number of oak piles have 
rnift with ; they are about five feet in 
and six to eight inches square^ 
bwl at the lower encfs." The sandstone 
i on the (jlutton had to be bl&sted. As 
the Bone Shoal, another report 
laoM 1H53) statetj that " a considerable 
of timber piles have been met witli 
(l^pth of about 12 feet ImjIow low water 
' [»ut 4 feet long and 5 ins. squai^*, 
at one end.' a>* on the upper part 
-rly reporta were addressed 
1 r»T my of the Admiralty, and pub- 
tl'arliaioentary papers on ' Harbours 

Js Landguard Point tlie engineers' 
'show that a long prevalence of 
rlj* winds invariably eauged the spit 
' in the direction of its length ; in 
i\(V! (first quarter of l85o) the in- 
100 ftjet in a «outh -easterly 
1 direction. The ix»int was 
li water for about KM) feet 
w«-wtwdid of the line of the two light- 
in ono " which was supposed to 
eafelv into the harbour. 
May. 1H4.'5. and October, lg5U, 
been a total ext<rnsion of r>(lO fet't, 
50 feet per annum ; and as the 
point had ii V its width 

■<i, and it \ -t Icsm in 

184.'S. A r« I" .. w. isr>3 men- 
Jtmg away of land on the sea 
lly near ihi" Ordnance burial- 

^afooco of wci^terly Mrmds« on tiie 
1. hod always checked IUb growth 

Mr. John B. Redman, in a foot-note to- 
a paper read before the Institution of Civil 
Engineers in January', 1804, reports that 
"'the rate of progress still continues, the 
westerly tendency increasing." 

Researches in the muniment rooniSi of 
Harwich and Ipswich may perhaps throw 
further liglit on the quewtion of the ancient 
historv- of Orwell. L. L. K. 


(See 10 S. iv. 21, 101, 182. 244, 364 ; v. 32, 
122. 284, 302 ; vi. 2. 104, 203.) 

I CONTIM7E my notes from Benjamin 
Rogers, the mueician. 

Sir William Scroggs (1652 ?-95), lawyer. 
— Son of Lord Chief Jastice of same names ;_ 
Chorister ; treasm*er. Graves Inn ; K.C. 

John Shepherd (1 52 n-fl. l^oO), musician. 
^Chorister of St. Paul's ; in 1642 appointed 
Instnu'tor of Choristers and organist at 
Magdalen ; resigned ne.\t year, but resumed 
post in 1545 ; m 1547 paid 8^ as teacher 
of boys for one year, and other sums for 
repairing organ, vestments, &c. ; then again 
resigned, but in 1548 supplied twelve music- 
books for OA. ; Fellow 1549-51 ; probably 
then entered Edward VT.'s Chapel Royal ; 
in April, 1554, supplicates for degree of 
Mua.Doc.Oxon. but hu* petition apparently 
not granted ; reappears in Magcf. records 
for 1 555. Ha\ ing dragged a boy " in chains " 
from Malmesburj^ to Oxford, probably for 
impressment as a chorister, and having 
represented himself on the journey as " the 
])rincipal oflHcer of the College after the 
President," the ocUum of his proceedings 
had fallen upon the Vice-President, where- 
fore he was " slmrply admonished for his 
impudence " ; but the custom of pressing 
boys for service in the choir of the Chapel 
Royal existed as far back an the time of 
Richard 111., and at Whitehall, out of eight 
choristers it was imual, after 1597. to send 
^ix at one tinu> to be trained at Blackfriars 
Theatre ; but an order wa« made in 1626, 
while Dr. Nathaniel Giles (see 10 S. vi. 3) 
wa« Master in Song and Organist, to pacify 
the Puritans, 

"thdt unno of the Chnristrrs or Children of the 
CI»rivi«:'Il, HOr t4» be tnkfu by force of this Com- 
iiii-wiiui, fhiilbo \\hM or iniploytid iw Comedians or 
Sra^u ^ikytrs. or lo exercise i>r aotc niiy SUpo 
l»laicK, intvibuk-»«, Comt-dics or TmKL'dieJ^." 
Shepherd is clas.sed by Morley among 
famous English composers, 

Thomas Sherley or Shhlcy (1638-78). 
physician in ordinary to Charles II. — Lived 



NOTES AND QUEIUES, no s. vii. jax. «. m. 

with his father. Sir Thomas, in Magdalen 
while Oxford w»e garrit^oned by royal troops 
and went to MX'.S. ; obtained M-D, degree 
in France ; imprisoned by ConnnouH for 
ajspealing to Upper House agaiiust a member 
(Sir Jolm Fagge). whorn they had declareti 
exempt from lawsuits during session (1675). 
Fagge }ift\'ingb«?en granted Sherley's paternal 
estate of VVieton during Civil War, 8hrrley 
died of disappointment at his ill Hiuccess. 

Richard 6herr\- or Shirrj'e (1606 ?-5(l ?), 
author. — Demy 1522 ; Master of M.C.S. 
1634-40 (between Robertson and Croodall) ; 
TiTot^ ' A Treatise of the Figures of Gram- 
mer and lihetorike.' 

Jolm Sihtlioqi (1768-96), botanist, — At 
M.C.S. ; RadclifTe travelling Fellow ; suc- 
ceeded Ilia father (Humphrey) as Sherardian 
Profe«8or of Botany, Oxon, but retun^od 
to Continent ; visited Crete. Smyrna, Cyprus, 
Greece, &g. ; publislied ' Flora Oxoiiiensis ' : 
•endowed Chair of Rural Economy at Oxfoitl. 
Bloxam (iii. 237) gives the following anec- 
dote of his elder brother M'hile at M.C.S. : — 

" Alx>ut 1766 took place in the 8chotilroom the 
niook trial of M^rvasu, tliird son of Dr. iSihthori>, oon- 
victcd of highway roliliory and aenl^-nced to he 
hnn^fd fnmi a hook in one of the fiiUiirfl, who. hut 
for the m-cidental jirrival of the Master (RolxTt 
Bryne) /lur? liLs cutting the cord just in time, would 
have died." 

John Smith or Smyth (1662-1717). dra- 
matiflt.— Probably great-grandaon of the 
genealogical antiquary of same narae<8 ; 
chorister 1676; Usher of M.C.S. (succeed- 
ing Richard Wright) 1689 mitU his death, 
when buried in College Chapel. 

Miles Smith (1618-71), ^*cretary of Arch 
bishop Sheldon. — A near kinsman of Bishop 
of Gloucester of same names ; chorister 
1634-41 ; B.C.L. ; produced a metrical 
version of the Paalms. 

Richard Smith or Smyth (1554-1638), 
father of book-collector and author of 
* Obituary * of same names (q.v. ' D.N.B.*). — 
Demy ; grandson of Gentleman-Usher to 
Elizabeth of same names ; in Holy Orders. 

Thomas Smith (1638-1710), Nonjuring 
di\'ino and scholar- — Master of M C.S. 
(between Timothy Parker and John Curie) 
1663-6 ; Fellow,' Vice-President, Bursar ; 
went for three years to Constantinople (1668) 
as Chaplain ; ejected from Magd. as anti- I 
Papist <1688)^ but reftised oaths to William 
and Mary ; librarian of Cottonian Library j 
wrote learned works on the Turks ; nick- 
named *' Rabbi Smith " ; left MS8. to Thos. 

iaf» Sparke (1548-1616). divine.— 
1567; Fellow; conforming Puritan 

of note ; Prebendary of Lincoln and r*«lor 
of Bletchley ; attended Hampton Coun 
Cotiference ; influenced bv Jat^"-^ ^ Hg 
son Wilham (1587-1641), 'Berv ^ 

Fellow, chaplain to Duke of lJu^l....^UaiB, 
succeeded him at Bletchley. 

Jolm Stanbridge or Stanbrygge (140)- 
1510), grammarian, — Of Winchester «ivl 
New Coll., where Fellow ; Usher of M.CJ' 
and, upon John Anwykyll'a death. Mmsxm 
1487-94 ; Master of Hospital of St. Job 
at Banbm^- ; rector of Winwick and ftr 
bendary of Lincoln ; wrote ' VocabtiUk* 
' Vulgaria,' * Accidentia,' &c. ; Anthn 
Scarbott was Master of M.C.S. between lun 
and Wolaey. His brother, or near re1altt% 
Thomas Stanbridge, Master of M.C.S. I.'ilT 
1522 (Bucceeding Hayle or Halye) ; Mm^oi 
of BanbiUT^ Grammar School, -where Sir 
Thomas Pope (1507 ?-59). totinrler d 
Trinity College, Oxon, was a scholar. 

John Stok'esley (1475 ?-15:i9), Bishop d 
London.^Fellow ; Usher of IM. C.S. far 
one montlx in 1497 ; Vicc-Pres VJent. wlioj 
engaged in fierce dissensions M,'itb' oiIht 
Fellows, who accused him {inter a in) 
heresy, theft, adultery, and t^f christ-cniii 
a cat ; at the Bishop of Winche-isior's \ isit*- 
tion the Fellows " in sign of unit .jjjj 

of a loving-cup together " ; Prin ; '^.^ 

Hall; Dean of Chapel Royal; envoy Ui 
France: tried to win over 'Italian univrr 
sities to Henr>' \^II.'a divorce ; condt?mnnl 
John Frith and other Proti'^tanta ; opposed 
translation of Bible into English ; romstfll 
Cranmer's visitation ; incurrtni C'romwrll , 
hostility. A portrait by Holbeijj at Windjwc, 
and a copy of it, presented by Dr. BloxAnu 
at M.C.S. ' ^ 

John Addinc;ton Symonda 
physician. — Showed at M.C.S. " 
for classical studies and a m 
towards literature " ; held sever ii 
staff of Bristol Hospital ; author • 
of fn^itic and poet of same namc^s. 

William Symonds or Simons ( 1556-1 616 'V 
divine.— Master (Ludimagi.ster) of M-G-S^ 
1583-6 (between Nicholas Balgu&y 'fttf 
Paul Smith) ; in his time great ccm> 
plaints were made by aome of the FHlcnrs. 
both to the Chancellor of the University and 
to th'-ir own vi.'^itor, resjwcting the condition 
of the School, it beinjc; a^sert^d the Mam^^^ 
was non-resident, and that the J\. 
(Humphrey) of the Colkt^e had si.i 
appointment to liim ; held mar- ,, 

prefermente. and at one time - ^^ 

Virginia ; published theological t\.. ,^^ 

Christopher Taylor (1615-86), QuaIrt 
schoolmastei'. — Chorister ir»2^: €•i^r.^.,.^,.^ 


1 8. VII. j^. 26. 1907.J NOTES AND QUERIES. 

' Oe<»rge Fox, he startod a school at VValt- 
jn Abbey 1670 ; followed William Perm 
I Peiinsvlvonia ; pxibliahed religious works ; 

rother of Thomiw T. {q.v. ' D.N.B.'). 
John Thornborough (1551-1641), Bishop 
Worcester. — Demy 1569 ; at Oxford led 
gay life, associating with Hobert Tinkney 

I i>t. Marv Hall. " These two," says Wood 

' Athence,^ ii. 99), 

|llnvpd Sinion Furrnan well, Knt, heinft^von mnoh 
I jtleasnre, tliov woviUi make hii * ' T ],er 
' tht! t't»c^!.Ht i)\ Sl>i»tovcr tor 1. < a- 

UnliniBt frfun nmriiiJin tuiiij^lif ti.'d, 

I Siimiii Mftitli, nor gave tli- • lUtu iMJoks, 

flt Mfifnt tJieir lifiie in thr i mhjIh, dancing- 

ihools, in :•' .'-- - ' r -■; 11 hunting tlie 

ue, lirtil V •iheii to the 

uw fif l>i ' 1^ Pi-ofefwor of 

Irt^k) lit Coi^lcv. t«» t>i.-c hi^ twu tuir rinnuilitcrs. 
luL'th ami Mjtrthtt. the fir»t of whom 'Ihon*- 
.. [>ugh wooed, Uio other l^nktivv, who at lengtli 
nrrted her, but TbomburuagU deceived the 

laplain to aeeond Earl of Pembroke and 
I t^ueen Elizabeth ; Dean of York ; Bishop 
Limerick ; of Bristol ; zealona against 
cusants and in raising forced loans. His 
hunger brother Giles (1562-1037) Demy 
B76 ; Sub- dean of Saruni, &c. 
Henr>' John Todd (1763-1845), editor of 
lilton and author. — Chorister 1771 ; libra- 
Ian at Lambeth Palace and royal chaplain ; 
ctor of Settrington ; Archdeacon of York ; 
iited Spenser ; wrote life of Craniner ; 
reaentvd his collection of books relating 
Milton to the College ; hie portrait in 
l.C.S. painted by Joseph Smith from a 
ketch taken in 1822. 
John ToniVH?« (b. 1636. — Chorister 1651, 
Dn of the Baptiat divino of same names, 
^ho entering Magdalen Hall, aged fifteen, 
(came a noted tutor there, and subsequently 
car of Leominster [q.v. *D.X.B/). 
Nathanael Totnkins (b. 1584), — Chorister 
596; Usher of M.C.S. 1606-10 (between 
Mchard Newton and Mercadine Himnis). 
' »es his inrlusion in * D.N.B. ' in smaW print, 
end of article on Thomaa Tomkins the 
[iisioian to Wood's confusion of the former 
ith the latter in ' Fasti,' 799 ; a mistako 
ind in Bloxam, i. 27, but correct<jd in ii. 47. 
Laurence Tornson ( 1539-1 6<J8), politician, 
Dthnr, and transcriber. — Demy 1553; 
tUow ; accompanied Sir Thomas Hoby to 
M.P. for Weymouth, A'c. ; tra- 
l extensively anrl knew many languagc<e; 

' brought up from a child in the LTniversity/ 
seems to imply his matriculation at a ver>^ 
early age, and if so, almost certainly as a 
Boholar " of M.C.S. (v. Hamilton's ' Hertford 
Coll.,' 105); B.A. Magd. Hall 1512; it is 
extremely tloubtfid whether he was nomi- 
natod an original Canon of Cardinal College 
by Wolsey, who may have been hia maeter 
at M.C.S. ; ordered by W^olsey to be seized 
at W^orras ; escaped to Marburg ; approved 
for a time by Henry Vlll. ; engaged in 
bitter controversy with Sir Thomaa More ; 
Henry Vm. sought to kidnap him; betrayed 
by Henry Phillips to imperial oflficers and 
arrested for hereby ; imprisoned at Vilvorde ; 
strangled and burned at the stake^ in spite 
of Cromwelfs intercession. Hertford College 
(olim Magdalen Hall) possesses his portrait ; 
and a similar picture, but upon panel, 
belongs to the British €md Foreign Bible. 
Society. A. H. Bayley. 

8t. Margaret's, Gre»\t Mai vera. 
{To If continued.) 

by W 
and c<>: 
fTyndah . 
tor of the 

■'^^n ; author of 

. luchyns (d. 1536), 

Horn probably 

' 1 ..V..U plirase, 


I HAVE before me an interleaved copy of 
the fourth volume of Granger's ' Biographi- 
cal History ' (second edition, 1775), ex- 
tensively annotated by James Caulfield^ 
the printseller. The greater number of 
hia comments refer to the comparative 
scarcity of the prints, everj* one of which 
he has priced ; but some of liis notes provide 
interesting side-lights on the printsellera 
and coUoctora of his day and their methods. 
Here are a few selected at random : — 

"Sir Artton Cotkain, 5/. ."V-. M. The i<rint of 
C*H^ktiin is extremely rnre. Sir \^'illif^n1 Miwttrave, 
who had bc«u eolle<?tijttc T^ortraitH for niftny vt«r», 
nmUl never ni»'c« \v\\h <ifir. Mr. Ti'.'^if hud owe, 
which Holil ftt I ■ " " ' . hut not 

iK'fore Kirliftlil ik." 

"Richard H' j- . . ..i I used to 

AvW for ',H, iVL, imt the book troni which it come* 
('The KTi'/!»'«h RovniM ') in nnw vrrv '»«^«rt^*', i»nd th© 
|. ' • ■ . ■ , ■ ■■• : '■':■:'...■ my 


1 . 'J**""/ 

whieii lie ii>i|K>r«vii vu lieverdl iieiHniiti ior origiiMl 
jirintH, thoutfh he told in« it w/t« to itiit thom before 
wiinc copies of t' ' ' . |,nd |,v hiio." 

" Jfttoh Kohu ai. T1h< f.rint of Btjikari 

solil in Miis^ni i V2J. VIk (W. I btul an 

oiiinluti I Hhoultl uKt-'t with some of this rnrtJ print 
ftt Oxfotfl, w)ier« Bu/dhers. the cnitmver. «JwiU'»« 

,. -• ' t ; -'- ■ ' '^ riw 

, Mm. 

Ik>lait. oJ the "lile 

•.\srjiu-. and U H»h 

brotbtr, wl' •■ • .i^^iukv 

NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vji. j.iv. a. m. 

hn ' H good pi iinonly 

l'"i s, and t<i ity has 

Imj.i^ . . .. , ...:;t! in snnie (J. — ,^„ , one of 

whiuli be oonatantly diivtjKi, I fuqiuroil or liini if 
he had any pi ints ot his imoe^tor, Uul loiuul he htui 
not, thuu^h hf w*mI n hroUvT who i« a hosier at 
Woodstock has ix very tine jiaintiny of liini." 

Part of tliis biogra[»hicftl memorandum is 
given by Brfty in lua foot-noto to Evelyu's 
'Diary/ 24 October, lfV<i4 (rtcfe tlu? recent 
edition in 4 vols,, ii. p. 171 ). A copy of the 
orint Avas in the Sykes Sale, Marcli, 1824, 
lot 849. bought by Grave for 6/, 8*. Crf. 

" Kranvois Le Pii^e, 15«, U//, The mt'/jiotintoof Le 
Pipre is an anonymous print, ivnd very little known 
to oithor pdnt^^dUTs or colleotois. It is » smftU 
tjimrto in the niinnpr nf WiillmnfH i»rint«, and 
leiitestmis h rnugh-lookin<,r man without hat or oup, 
the t'ollur of hii4 shirt iinlMittonLHl, and ujion roin- 
mriiion uitli VValiMile's print is known to be Le 
Pipro. Coram has bought 'A or 4 lately in salcM, 
Tvith many other prints in a lot f<»r 2x. 6*/, or .^., 
thoutfh yonny <Jravf^ and niuny jirintaellers of note 
huvolx't-n in the ro»mi at thu tini«, hut did not know 
this jirint. Acconlitii,' to the impression, it Mill 
brinL' from Irw. to 1/. ]-. iki." 

" Louifle. DiitehesM u[ PortAinoutli. W. fk (k/. The 
plate of the Diitohej^s of I'ortsniouth l*v ISitudct 
must be at Paris arnoujj; the j^luttH of Bjisan, thouijh 
hero the print is so rarely nu't with timt it soils fitr 
fi or 6 guineas. Paris is ii pl«<«e that h>is M«'Vtjr hecn 
visited by any other tiji 1 T "ts who 

know not how to Hi.'tfk a' [ . VVal- 

IK)le and Ant" Storer oi. . :. i thinly 

met with many of their luWt curious prints while iu 

If these few exccrpta from Caulfield's 

i'ottinga are found of siifTficient interest, 
shall be pleased to give a further selection 
-at a later date. Aleck Abrahams. 

39, Hillmarton Road, X. 

Raja-i-Rajgan : Indiax Title.— There 
ia an amusing blunder in the Januarj' 
number of T/ie^ NincUenth Century. The 
Kaja of Kapurthala, who contributes aa 
interesting article on ' The Education of 
Indian Princes/ ia described in the table 
of contents as " H.H. the Raja I. Rajgan 
of Kapurthala." This loolcs as if the prijiter 
thought Rajgan was a surname. Of course I 
the proper way to write this title is Itdjd-i- 
Rdjgan. It means *' King of Kings." The 
vowel i in Persian denotes the posseasivo 
case ; compare King Edward's title, Kaisar- 
i-Hind, which no one would dream of 
wrriting *' Kalsar I, Hind." 

Jas. Platt, Jun. 

STATrES or THK Oeoroes. — Three of the 
four Georges have statues in London, which 
ore all imjjartially ignored in the list in the 
* Dictionary- of Dates ' Those who fre- 
nurntlv visit the gtieat liive of learning in 

Great Russell ^ nd all m ' 

tions of any kii. loiri ol'tt i . 

bury, must be laiiiihar witli the 
George I. on the top of St. GeorjCfo's V\ 
but the old jokes about iiiaJcit 
the liead of the steeple arc foi 
probably few who look up at the 
whoso it is. The figure of Get 
horseback in Pall Mali is known 1 1 ■ . i j i . . 1 1 i ij 
who pass that way. But I find th»t cc 
spicuous as is the equestrian stotor 
George IV. in Trafalgar Square (the horw'!| 
tail turned towardt* the Natioioil <',h11.tiiJ, 
many persons do not know it t< . iiAl 

not exactly popular king. PerL ^ i »l 

partly because there ia no name on 'tk\ 
which it seems to mo every statue 8hoi^ I 
have. It ia by Chantrey, as I mentiondl 
in 10 S. iii. 448. By a curious ploonMnvl 
Marochetti's statue of Richard Cumr dlj 
Lion in Old Pala<*e Yard is mentionod twifli | 
in the list in Haydn. W. T. Lyns. 

Black Irnitli. 

Shakespeare's Residence New Placi. I 
— In Mr. Sidney Lee's * Life of WilliAa ' 
Shakespeare '—a work which, in my upinioo, 
should be imiversally stutUed — w.* ^.t.. nyX^ ' 
on the authority of Halliwell-Pli m 

New Place was purchased in 1 < . Sir 

Edward Walker, tlirough whose daii'ghwr 
Barbara, wife of Sir John Clopton. i« 
reverted to the Clopton family. In |TOi 
(eighty -six yeai's after Shakespeare's de«thl 
Sir John rebuilt it. On the death at Sir 
John^s son, in 1752, it was bought by Utf 
Rev. Francis CJastrell, who died in 1768, 
having In 1759 demolished the ** turn | 

1 have just discovered that in tbo foliov* 
ing year, namely, in July. 1760, a \*>\un 
appeared in The London MfiffaiitH\ wmtm 
by a lady on a journey from Stratford-upon- 
Avon to her friend in Kent, from trnk^ 
the following is an extract : — 

*'Th^rp B(t<>nrl here till lately thp honiw* in whidi 

SI, ' ' il, and a nuiH' Km 

I'l i'.c WHS larj;;c. ,J- 

^■M <ji hirKe thai n tUa 

^rinrw-i.Ui in your gajflcn. whi*'li 1 i >r«i 

than "Jtl yards sijuan*. uno fiupolv th- .\m 
with niiilbctTii'h • '' 
thiii hoiCJif nod I 
ot)ni|ianv nod uv'i 

Motnc <li8y;, laa« p)ill< .^t 

to leave one sUinoui'" • li« 

tir- ' ■ ■> ' ■- ■ 

things of this wo(^l for the curion 

ho]>c to bntig with mo to town. 1 c-... v. - 

I viL Ji>. 28, i907,j NOTES AND QUERIES. 


11 be flBfn that not only did the Rev. 

i Oa«t«?ll di'iuolish '* the new build - 

t)Ut also lliat portion of the old buildinp 

oxi8t«d in the time of Shakespeare. 

Ct» Ckcoording to the e\'idence of thid 

tial trftvolltT, the reverend gentleman 

leave otio stone upon another ! 

] not realLz^e ; I always thought that 

aoos of tlie old building remained 

cWrrow, Cri>»thorne, 

ITroth." — Thua far lexicographers 

— rn ** wroth " in its substantival 

-fc as they do not lend their 

... uie practice of the lady novehst 

courageously uses " wrath " as an 

lti\*e. *• Her Grace was very wrath " 

; not deser\'e recognition for it« literarj' 

"^y — although, after all, *' wrath '* aa 

I nsed iB not very far off the earlier 

tival 8p«:ilUag '* wraith " — but '* my 

th " in • Merchant of Venice,' II. ix. 

hould not be absolutely ignored. It 

9 find^ it* place owing to exigencies 

e, a coiusideration which may also 

• of several corroborative examples 

ludibrtw.' In 1. i. 900 Butler makes 

obnerve, in dehberate discourse 

l«]pho ; — 



V Unh 

ijui wnthh, 

pt, 'Ji vi'-tuty to coKie^ 
, in I. it. 450 Colon and liis horse recall 
aeti^' and the ineffable grace of the 

itd»d tnf(»rni tlieni IkiHi, 
f-HAnip viipiur, fury, •wroth. 

tame canto. 1. 737, the effect on 
of Talgol's scatiiing deliverance is 
ibod : — 
itfap kfiii:ti,t t:i 'Mr hluli in wrotlij 

' ?tout, 
i. ii^Lii. lur-i ^» ord» bi-oke out. 

HiiionSf ©N'-en if the rime is the 

-■ ise, added to the Shake- 

. are not without signi- 

111. i»ractice o! the seventeenth 

Thohas Bayne. 


Li iJUARY.— Those inter- 
tudy of London toiioprnphy 
f»av.i thf'ir ntt.ntion drawn to 

' ^ ' y of the 

naber of 

old deeds relating to the City parishes to 
which no catalogue references exist. Thej' 
consist of the major portion of those deeds 
which j><xl out of local custody into the 
hands of the City Parochial Foundation aa 
a consequence of the passing of the City 
l*arochial Charities Act some years ago, 
and wliich were afterwards transferred to the 
Oiuldhall as being no longer of substantial 
value, having lapsed. There are ao 
hiintlreds (if not thousands) of the deeda^^ 
relating to ever>^ quarter of the City, and 
yielding much iiiiere>sting topographical 
information. They date, geuerally speaking, 
from 1560 to 1760, thougli a few of earlier 
and later dates are inc]u<led. Deeds relat- 
ing to the rebuilding of the City after the 
Fire are especially numerous. Many of 
them — of various periods — bear interesting 
autograph signatures of mayors and alder- 
men of renown (these generally appear on 
the backs, being included in the witnesstss) ; 

whilt\ some few other celebrities' signatv 

also occur. 

The deeds appear to have been for some 
considerable time in the Guildhall, though 
it has not yet been found convem'ent to 
catalogue them. A full index fwminun, et 
locorum is, I believe, meditated, but its 
compilation i% indefinitely postponed for 
various cogent reasons. If the committeej 
could ultimately see their way to printing! 
a descriptive catalogue on the lines of those 
issued by the authorities of tlie Record 
Office, a useful purpose would, in my 
humble opinion, be served, as the deeds 
cover a period for which no similar index 
(aa regards any other collection) exists, so] 
far as 1 am aware. 


" UMPraE." — An early use of the word 
" umpire " in its modern sense appears in 
William Langland's ' Vision of William 
coneerninfif Piers the Plowman* (1332-U9). 
pa.ssus V. 1. 34 : — 

And named for htm a uoumjMtre that no dcl>ate 

nere ; 
For to try this chaffer betwixen them three. 

Clifton Bobbins. 

'* shadow-catrheh " = photographer. 

Alternative trade terms often baffle in- 
quirers, tlu'ough not being recordetl at tbe 
time of their introduction. I notice a firm 
of photographers in Bishopsgate Street are 
now describing themselves "as " iShadow- 
catchers." A note of tliis in ' N. & Q.' 
now may perhaps save much speculation 
hereafter. G. Yarrow Baldoc^l, 


NOTES AND QUERIES, tio s. vir .ia>. »; 

Wk muat rtNtuest corrt-spoudents desirinjj in 
foriuntion on tHinily mattt^js of only juivaU? itiUjrest 
to nfRx their iiumeit and Hd<hesws Uj thyir (queries, 
in oixlur that anawei-s may be scut to them direct. 

'* Mms.*' — Recent English dictionaries 
have mitis-green, another nanie for Scheele's 
green, and mUi^-casting, a process for in- 
creasing the fluidity of molten iron and 
Btoel by the addition of a small quantity of 
alunxiniuju. The words Miti^Qriin, Miti^- 
giufSt are used in German, and are ex]}lained 
by Muret-Sandera as derived from the name 
of a Vienna manufacturer. It does not seem 
very likely (though of course it is not im- 
possible) that the name of the same person 
18 containetl in both these terms, as they 
belong to very different branches of tech- 
nol«)g>% and mitis-green occurs as early as 
183U. whilo mitis-custing Is spoken of ae a 
novelty in 1880. Can any authentic infor- 
mation be found respecting the origin of 
these terms ? Henry Bhadley. 

ClatcnUon Press, Oxford. 

"Moke," a Donkey. — The earliest in- 
stance of this word known to me is in May- 
hew's * London Labour and the London 
Poor,' 1851. Can any older example be 
found ? I have a recollection of naWng 
seen the word (spelt " mouk," and printed 
in inverted commas) in a letter or diary 
written by a lady at some English seaside 
reeoit, but whether the date was earlier or 
later than 1851 I do not remember. 

Hekby Bradley. 
Clarendon Press, Oxford. 

*' MiTLATTO." — What is tlie etymology of 
this word ? There is no doubt that the word 
is derived from the Sp. or Port., mulato, and 
that the Eng. spelling is due to the It. form 
mulatto. The Port, muiato means one bom 
of a negro and of a white woman or of a 
negrees and of a white man ; the word at 
first meant a mule. Diez says that the 
original meaning of mnlato was a young 
mule, the suffix -ato having a diminutive 
force and expressing youth. Dozy in Ills 
* Olossaire ' (p. 384) says, ^'Muiato est 
proprement im mot portugais, et dans cette 
langue il signifie, 1, mulet ; 2, figur<^»ent 
mutdtrc."' From this it appears to be 
certain that nmlatt<} is a derivative of Lat. 
tnultia, a mule. The only thing that re- 
quires explanation is the Port, suHix -ato, 
^ * a pity that Dio* has not given any 
lea of its Ui»e aa a diminutive. Then, 
— fe.-..,, how can the eulHx -ato be explained ? 

It cannot be from Lat. -atus, as : 'tlx 

becomes -ado in popular word:^ in 1 -a. 

The intervooal I points to the loss oi a l^atin 
consonant. The etymology of Dicjc and 
Dozy is therefore not made out quito satid- 

Hence another explanation has beexk 
attempted. Engelmarm derives mukUo 
from an Arabic word inuii?allad (see Dica). 
But muioallad does not mean " one of tnixed 
race." It moans properly ** ado|>t»-<il." and 
in Spain during the reign of the < lea 

the Spaniards who had embraced t : i on 

of Muhammad were so called. Tiii» is far 
away from the meaning of " mulatto/' 
Besides this objection, the phonetic diffi- 
culties are insxxperable. How could muldio 
possibly come from muwdllad f How can 
a Port, t be derived from an Arabic <ff 
How can one explain the disappearance of 
the strongly stressed syllable in the Arabic 
word ? 

Doubtless ' N.E.D.' will derive *' ratilatto **^ 
from " mule," and will be able to give a 
satisfactory account of the <iifficult Port, 
suffix -ato, A. L. May'hkw. 


Royal. Kepier School. Houghton- i,e- 
Sprino. — An attempt is being msMie to 
gather aa complete a record of tlie alumni 
of the above school as it is now possible to 
make. Founded by Bernard Gilpin in 1574. 
it was for more than two centuries one of the 
principal centres of education in the north 
of England. The School Kegister includes 
the names of many eminent men : for ex- 
ample, George Carleton, Bishop of LandaS ; 
Hugh Broughton, the Hebraist ; Henry 
Airey, Provost of Queen's College, Oxford ; 
Ralph Ironside, father of the Bisliop of 
Bristol, and grandfather of the Bi»hop of 
Hereford of that name ; Robert Surtees, 
the historian ; and Robert Henry Allan,. 
the antiquary. 

List* of, or notes relative to, scholar prior 
to 18fi0, when the existing Register com- 
mences, will be gladly welcomed by either 
the head master, Mr.'F. L. Gaul, M.A.^ or 
myself. H. R. Lkiqhton, 

East Boldon, R.S.O., co. Durham. 

StTBStDY Rorj.s. — Has any one attempted 
to arrive at an intelligible conclusion as 
to the method employod by the asseaaors 
of raodiiE^'al and Tuclor subsidit^s ? How 
were the lands valued, and how \vi '^ ? 

We are accustomed to rcgarti \ '< ea 

aa unjtistifiably severe. To nje m 

not only very light, but also !• a 

singularly partial ffiLsliion. 1 will ■• .. oj". tkk 

10 S. VIL Jan. 26. 1807.1 NOTES AND QUERIES. 


of tlto earli«rr Edwardian levies, tliough 
much might he> said abcmt their csccentricity ; 
1 will confine myseK to Tudor examples, 
-use thp\' are more oasily chocked by 
'erence to the wiU« of i^cnons taxed. 
Whon we hear of a tax of 4#. in tlie pound 
on land and 'is. ^d. on goods, we imagine 
something appro xiiuating to our own heav>' 
iniposta ; but when we 6nd the land esti- 
mate at 6d, an acre rental, and the " goods " 
at a mere nominal value, which bears no 
relation whatever to the actual personalty 
of the owner, we are rather inclined to si^h 
for the lonjz-lost generosity of the aixtenth- 
centnrj' assessor. How a mcui c^an leave 1 20/. 
to his two daughters — after devising free- 
hold estates to each of liia aons, together 
with cattle, horses, farm implemente, armour, 
and plate — wlio haa paid only on 51. of 
*' goods," seenift inconceivable. But tliis is 
not all- By Rome inscrutable ayatem theee 
idieft aecm to be so arranged that 
which pay their modest quota one 
year, frequently oMape altogether tlie next, 
so that it i» no uncommon thing to find a 
man'ti name on tliroe or four Elizabethan 
roUa and absient on the rest ; while at the 
end coniCM an Inquisition post mortem 
solemnly dnclarinff his estate at just twice 
the value ho has been taxed for, and even 
then very low according to the charges he 
i on it in lii<! will. 

should be very glad to learn whether my 
rience, gathered from m few covuitir^B and 
localities, is a general one* and whether 
any explanation other than the caprice of 
friendlv adseesors can be allegetl for it. So 
far aa lands are concerned, it Hoeuvs evident 
tliat the " ancient rents '* were accept©<l an 
the ba«ia of taxation long after they had 
ceased to ret>n*«rnt tlie l<'ttable value of the 
property, is it poatsible tliat tlie sum at 
wliieh the g^Knls are valued really means 
tiie ostiniat^'ii interest of a capital ecjual 
to the perdonal estate ? This was certainly 
fiot the earlier method of assessment. 

A. B. 
Victoria, British OjlumbiA. 

WyBBttTOK, Lures. — I shall be glad to 
be icfcrrM to any papers dealing with the 
».i.*^.f.. ^.f ri... ..i,>,f^.ii imci iQ Biiy pictures 

lor. I pre«xime the 

I... I.. . :.^rch is still standing. 

R, J. WmTwELi,. 
70. BAoliory Road. Oxford 

Bisaoi* LiuiTfp, South Vacivic. — Bigf^p 

r t' nf a rocky iiilund in the South 

'1 of Macquario Italund. Can 
i.ij. K.i.t? a clue to the naiuing of this 

island ? A brother of my grandfather, 
Thomas Bisliop or Blshopp, named Joseph 
or William or Hugh (both of them ran away 
from school in 1790-7 — Thomas to Russia, 
and his brother to India), ia understood in 
the family to have given his name to an 
island m the Pacific and to have perished 
there — in misrtionary work. Both of the 
boys are believed to have been the sons of an 
officer in the Guards who was sent out to 
India to teach gunpowder-making at Fort 
St. George (Debrett, 1828, Zouche). 

Calenic, Tniro. 

Rowe's * Shakespeabe.* — ^I possess N. 
Rowe's first edition of Shakespeare : '' Lon- 
don, Jatrob Tonson, 1709," 6 vols., 8vo ; 
frontispiece, Shakespeare's bust on pedestal. 
The title-page says " adorned with cuts." 
The only plates in mine are in vol. vi., viz., 
one plate to each of the sbc doubtfid plays. 
Will some one tell mo if my copy is short 
in plates, and how many there should be ? 
The volumes show no sign of any plates 
being torn out. 

The seventh volume of poems, published 
in 1710, I do not possess. If the six plates 
to the doubtful plays are all there should be» 
my edition is jwrfect. John Tudor. 

74, ToniuAy Road, Newton Abbot. 

" Bossing.'*— What is the meaning of 
tliis word in the Cheshire proverb {cited by 
Ray. 'North-Country Words' [1674-01], 
8,v. ' Osse ') " Ossing comes to bossing " ? 

I find the saying in the fifteenth -century 
MS. Digby 52, If . 28, in the Bodleian, with 
a gloss : — 

Os^ynp cr»my» to bossvng : 
Vulntis opinAtur «iuocf iKMrtmodum verificAtur. 
But this does not soem to solve the difficulty. 

Q. V. 

AirrHORs of Quotations Wanted. — I 
have a reference to *' an old ballad " : — 
Sftliina Raw. hut would not «ee ; 
Saliinn h«\rtl, Imt would not b«ir. 
Can some kind soul complete the reference ? 
J. K. Lauohton. 

WTio is the author of the following T 

If ni> ' 1 ' ' ' 


W]v llis throno» 

Or ml «.-• .MiU.v «it.. 
The hne« are remembered as having been 
once quoted by Afchbiflhop Wliat^^ly in a 
sermon. Kom Ombo. 

SiK John GiBflON*s Portrait.— Can any 
reader of ' X. A Q.' tell of a portrait in 



NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii Jas. ss, iiw:. 


existence of Sir Jolin Oibaon, Governor of 
rortamouth ? He was knighted by Queen 
Anno in 1705, and died in 1717. 1 liave 
lieard that one wojs disposed of a few years 
ago in the Gibsoa-Carmichael Sale. 

H. G. Long. 
14, Miirmioii Rtiad, Sonthaea, 

Sussex Poll-Books. — Gatfield refers to 
B *' Poll-Book for the Sussex election, 
March, 1820. Chichester, 1820, 8vo." This 
is not to be found at the British Museum. 
Is there any library wliere it can be seen ? 
Hekbv W. Poor, Col. 

121, Hither (ii-een Laue, Lewishaiu, 

Littleton's ' HtsTfinv of Isllnoton.' — 
I have two parts of what 1 think is a some- 
what ficarce publication dealing with this 
one-time rural village. It La of royal octavo 
size, about 10\ in. by 7 in., each part con- 
sistine of 24 pages, in a buff-coloured wrapper. 
The first one has printed on the outside 
cover : — 

" Part I. Frioo One ShiUiup. The Illuatratcd 
History of iBlington. By K. H. Littleton. Coii- 
taininii: A Beautifully -Exeouted Ktiginvinjj Of 
iCarmnhniv Tower. Doceniber. 1850. London : 
PublisliiMl. For tbe Proi»netor, Bv D. Doduon, 10, 
Holywell-Stroot, Strand ; And to oe had also of all 
resjico tabic bookHcUurs. Print«;d by B. R. Peakt:, 
Took'it Court, Chancery-Lane, A Guarantee is 
given for the Comitletion of the Work," 

Pp. 2, 3, and 4 of ^Tapper are blank, and 
pp. 1H4 of the work itself are taken up with 
an " Introduction,'* unBigned and undated. 
P. 5 is headed with a woodcut entitled 
** CanonbuT)' Tower — 1811," and conunencea 
with '* Section I. Antiquities : Canonbury 
HoTise and Tower," which leaves off abruptly 
in the middle of a sentence on p. 24. 

Part II. lias the same wording on the 
cover (wMch is also blank as to pp. 2, 3, and 
4), except tliat in the middle, in place of the 
announcement as to the >iew of Canonbury 
Tower, it states that it contains " Beauti- 
fxUly-Executed Engravings of Canonbury 
House Sc Old St. Mary's Church ; also, a 
copy of the Will of Sir Richard Cloiidesley,*' 
and the date *' January 31 to February 28, 

rl8Sl." The first page is of course num- 
bered 25, and in the middle of this is a 
vignette woodcut view of Canonbury House, 
but with no title. P. 28 is headed " Caniifn- 
bury Tavern." and p. 31. "The Old Church 
of St. Marj'." which has a vignette woodcut 
view of it*, also with no title. The will of 
Sir Richard Cloudesley. or rather an extract 
from it, is given in letterpress (not in fac- 
- lie, as might be supposed from the 
I ding on the wrapper), and the account, 
and tlie part too, ends with p. 48. 

Is this the publication ret- 
Torn! ins in his ' Perambulation • 
publi.^hed in 1858? In the " Advi 
ment " of this he states, after apolog^ 
for the delay in completing his work (he" 
be;jun by issuing Part I. of hw Ijook in IS43 
which, by the way. is distinctly difTe 
both as to the letterpress and the j^o 
of the woodcuts, from his finished 
that the delay had bt^n prejudicial to htiu 
self, since his original information concer 
ing the earlier facts had in the tneantii 
'* been appropriated, without the ^ace 
acknowledgment by his immetiiate pred^ 
cessor." Or did Tomlins refer to Lefwisi 
little book ' Islington as It Was and as It ' 
pviblished in 1854 ? Probably, I thii 
the latter. 

My object, liowever, is to endea\*our 
ascertain whether Littleton's ' Histor^ 
was ever completed, or whether more tha 
two parte were published. From the dilator 
dates I have given, perhaps Part IH. nevt 
saw the light. Can any reader furnish aj 
information about this tardy topographer 
E. K. Neut'on. ' 

7, Ac'hille« Roati, West End, N.W\ 


(10 S. vi. 448 ; vii. 32), 

I HAVE been in the habit of hofl 
this prayer read before the sermon mt __ 
Margaret's Church, Westminster (the offici 
church of the House of Commons), duiii 
the Parliamentary session, since 1861, a 
the form there has always bein " Let 
pray for," &c. Alterations and 
have been made by the variou- 
but the opening has always remauied ti 
same. I think, but am not quite sure, thl 
once at Oxford 1 heard the other fon: 
*' Ye shall pray for," &c. ; but as that 
many years ago, 1 may be wrong in 

Perhaps it may be of interest to put u| ^ 
record in the columns of ' N. cX:; Q.' the pray< 
as recited in St. Margaret's Church. It ' 
as follows : — 


If.,1., I 'Mfln,.lir> IM,, 

it r 

of i '«i 

tb' |.<rr<>r t>t Imiia. 

Km 11 uid ovrr all l • t 

donnmuus s\ijjri;me ; for our grooiou^ ^juctn. 

ia&. va 3i^^. 28, 1907.1 NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Andrtt, CleorKv, Prince of Wales, oj id n\] ! 

|¥aTn\W ; f<»r tUe \x>Tt^» and othui-s of Hi 

f <'il . » ; for 

the Iniicl ; 

for •' »rity, 

Coiiii I- -■ • ,ill in 

th«Mt wvcMii H the 

glory of ♦JtmI, ir*' of 

iiiankiii<l. rein r 

whif'li lliL'y in I 

of (iotl, •' ' 

is jiro- 
vinoe, utxl .\iilnii IVik-y, Jvjii! IU-lu'|i uf this 
4litH?<*-e, X\u\t thuy iiiAy Hhinc l»ke ti^ht9 in ihv 
Morlil, unci Afiorn iho doctrines of (Jod our Saviour 
in all thin}?!*. 

*'Afi<l f«»r H rine fiitp^tlv of 7>er«ons quallHcd to 
«er\ I " :■ i ' i uh implore His 


I<*ri;y, \' 
ittlly f<. 





limiw^H fiir rnurttie- 
tior. " '' ' 

rlwl thin 

<1 seruiuarieB of 

Lilarly ujion our 

lad all other ftlact^s 

lo (iod'tj honour aiirl 
the orflvanccmenl of 

ruinj; nmy for ever 

M our unfeigned 

.1 : fnr iMir vren- 


«l fuir 

rid by 

t«ir tho luuiiitM ot icfraoe 

tlir hope of irloi'v liere- 

>l ^ ■ 11 His 

1 fear, 

1 '. their 

, wc ijiay dwell 

^h .Jefl\ja Christ 

in of word*? wo 

' n," Ac. 

>ns are in tlie 

am])litlr.ation ot tho King's style and titk*, 

introciucrd by the present roetor. Canon 

I Henalry Weiison, after His Majesty's acces- 

leion. w)ien the royal style and titles were 

[junended. It is a question, however, if 

[the phrase '' Defender of the Faith " i»up;ht 

lot to go before ** Emperor of India " 

rather than after it. VVlien Westminster 

lived it* rnogt recent charter of incor- 

ion. the words " City of " were added 

' ^ i;^ tit tfie Mayor, 

in of VVt>itinini*ter 

'inson) wa(5 rector 

tion of the prayer 

.... r, he used to invoke 

a liis own particular 

• (Christ's College) ; 

>no l>efore, nor has it 

ii3 succe^Hnr, It may 

itiooed that Canon 1: ton, 

Hr camp from Chelsea to - i .,ter, 

u»e of tliirt prayer 

;«1 members of Parlia- 

iu>d uld til' ' the congregation 

[m flpMlftl b)' 

Imt tait vot^ 

objected to the oniiasion, and after a few 
weeks it was resinned, confommbly to ancient 
custom, and so it remains to the jircaent 
time. For my own part, I may say that I 
greatly prefer the opening ae ui*ed in our 
church to the one mentioned by the querist^ 
as it appears to link the clergj- and laity in 
making the various supplications in the 
prayer. W. E. Kaiiland-Oxley. 

A \ est minuter. 

The o5th Canon of 1603 orders the use 
of the Bidding Prayer, and gives tlie form 
of it, which, as H. G. P. correctly surmises, 
commences, '' Ye shall pray for." &c. ; and 
no alteration has e\'er been allowed by 
authority. It is therefore somewhat re- 
markable that at sucli a gathering aa the 
recent Church Congress the form " Let us 
jiray for," &c., should have been substituted, 
not only because it was irregular, but 
further because the latter form woidd imply 
ignorance of its structiire and character. 
The Bidding Prayer is not in itself a 
prayer at all, but is an instruction t^ the 
congregation as to the tilings for which 
they should make their petitions at the 
time of i)u1jUc worship. It is furtlier 
remarkable, seeing how almost entirely it 
has fallen into disuse, that it is the only 
form which may lawfully be usetl before 
the sermon. It is dra\^^l ui> upon the lines 
of the pre- Reformation Bidding of the 
Bedes (prayers), as the prayer before tlie 
sermon was then termed, and, although 
admirable in form and matter, was 
originally framed with the intention of 
depriving the Puritans of the opportunity, 
which tiicy frequently utilized, of making 
the prayer before the sermon an occasion 
of preaching sedition and disloyalty to 
the Church. In those days the preat'hing 
of sermons without any preparator>' form 
of religious service was ver>' customary, and 
the introductorj' prayer was frequently- 
made the vehicle for violent attacks upon 
the settled order in Church and State. It 
was to check these abuses that the Bid- 
ding Prayer was dravm up. The Bidding: 
Prayer is* frequently uaed in parish churches, 
especially at such serN'ices as the Commemo- 
ration of Benefactors ; and only a few 
Sundays ago it was so uaed at ray own 
parish' church, where the jjre-acher recited 
it in the proper form. Perhoj>s preachers 
who are unaccustomed to the prayer think, 
in using the form " Let us pray for,** &c^ 
they are conforming more nearly to tJie 
Prayer Book, where the exhortation is 
always " Let us pray," ct^necially bcfons 
such prayers as that for the Church fililitaat. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vu. Jan. aa. iw:. 

where the preface is *" Let iis pray for 
the whole state of Christie Chm-ch rnUitaht 
here in earth," the prayer following being 
in many of its features aimilar in character 
to the clauBeg of the Bidding Prayer. 

F. A, Russell. 
4, Nelgflrde Road, Catford, S.E. 

The 55th Canon of the Constitutions and 
Canons Ecelesiaatical, 1603, gives the pre- 
scribed form of the Bidding Prayer, now 
seldom used, except in cathedrals. The 
title of Canon 55 is, " The fonn of a Prayer 
to be used by all Preachers before their 
Sermons '* ; and it commencea thus : — 

*' Before all sermons, lectures, nrid homilies, the 
preftolicrs and ministers shall move tho ]*e<jple to 
joiu with them in prayer, in this form, or to this 
effect: Yt? almll pray for Christ's holy Catholic 
Church." Ac. 

This bidding or exliortation names or refers 
to the king, the royal family, the Council, 
and all the dignitaries, officers, and authorities 
in Church and State ; and also the local 
diocesan, capitular, municipal, and edu- 
cational officers and institutions, often in a 
quaint and old-world phra.seology. The 
local variations are sanctioned by the words 
" to this effect." The canon ends vnth the 
words " always concluding with the Lord's 
Prayor," and this direction is invariably 
observed. .it W. R. Holland. 

Rt)MAN Catholic Priests buried tx 
London (10 S. \i. 149, 218, 237).— A corre- 
spondent very kindly answered my query 
in TJte Catholic Times, and from his reply 
I gather the following particulars. 

During the eighteenth centiu-y and the 
earher part of tne nineteenth the greater 
number of Catholics were buried in the 
churchyard of Old St. Pancran. Lysons in 
his ' Envii-ona of London,' vol. iii. p. 351, 
says : — 

*'The church and churchvArd of Pancros have 
loou been noted m a burial jiliioe for such Ronuui 
Cfttliolics a» die in London and the vicinity, many 
pereona of that ]>ersuaAiun Iwive Iteen buried at 
Piwldinpton, hut their ituint>crs are Hniull when 
comiwred with what are huried at Paneras, whore 
almust every other tomb Iwftia a cruss and R.I. P. 
.... .1 havt* heard it aasitjned n.e a reitson for the 

prcfcrentu U) Panci-o* that lx?iove the late con- 

vulaioiiB in France [the French Revolution) Mas«es 
wore said in a church in the South of France dedi- 
cntrd to th«^ same saint for the aouhi of thoise 
iriterred at .St. Fant i-ja in England." 
Soon after the passing of tlio severe laws 
aeainst Horn an CatlmUcs in the reign of 
Elizabeth, Cathohcs began to bury their 
dead in St. Pancras ; but of theso little or 
no record r«-niains. The earheet is that of 

the Right Rev. Bonaventure GiffarJ. Bishop 
of Madaura and Vicar- Apostolic of the Lon- 
don District. 1734. Then follow the B,c\ 
Robert Grant, President of the ScolcU 
College, Douai, 29 March, 1784 ; the 
Rev. Ca'sard'Anterroches, Bishop of C'oni 
France, 31 Jan., 1793; the Right 
Bishop of Coutance, 1798 ; and the l3ishop 0? 
St. PoldeL^on, 1800. 

At the conunencement of the ninetoieaith 
centurj' occur the Bishop of Triguier, 18«»l ; 
the Rev. Arthur 0'Lear>', O.S.F.C. tho 
founder of St. Patrick's, *Soho, and friend 
of Curran ; Father Nicholas Pisani. 1803 ; 
the Bishop of Noyon. 1804 ; the Archbishop 
of Narbonno, Dr. Aithur Dillon, 1 806 ; and 
a large number of priests. Lysons ^ays that 
'* an average of about tliirty of the " French 
clergj' were buried annually." 

In Hammersniith Churchyard : Dr. James 
Talbot, Bishop of Birtha and Vicar-Apoe- 
tolic of the London District. He waa the' 
fourth son of George, Earl of Shrewsbuury, 
and was the last ecclesiastic to be tried for 
saying Mass under the penal laws. 

in St. Giles-in-the-Fields a large number 
of Catholics were biuietl, their gravestones 
being distinguished by the cross and H.I, P. 

In the old church of St. Mar>', Horseferrj' 
Road, Westminster, tlie founder, a French 
emigre priest, was buried. 

St. George's Cathedral, South wark. ib 
the burial-place of the Rev. John Griilitiu 
(1813), the Rev. John Rudford, the Rcr. 
John White, and the Rev. Edward McStav ; 
and close to them Dr. James DanelJ, the 
second Bisliop of Southwark, 1881. Pkh 
voet Doyle, who was the founder of thi» 
cathedral, also Ues witliin its walls (1879|i. 
' Beneath the chm*ch of the Holy Trinitjr. 
Parker's Row, Berraondsey, are interre*! the 
Rev. Peter Butler, the founder, a«d six 

In the rear of SS. Mary aiid Michael*a 
Church, Commercial Road, is a enuUl 
cemetery in which are buried several of tbo 

There were also several private burial* 
grounds in different parts of London almost 
exclusively used by Catholics, but long 
since closed. Priests are said also to tiavo 
been buried in the chm-chyards of St. Jainc«'fif 
Clerkenwell, St. Anne's, Soho, and St. 
George's, Hanover Square ; but I hnv« 
been imable to search the registers of tlwsB 
Churches, so I cannot verify the statcvoeat^ 


Post Boxes (10 8. vi. 389. 453, 475).^-- 
Early post boxes, aeverid of which ttnuin. 


iiwere frequently decoratetl with elaborate 
ornament*— cornice®, garlands of flowers in 
I hiK^ relief. *c. At the LTOHs-rowls at Green- 
ford Green, near Harrow, is a post box of 
I tJiiB description on tlie top of wliich are 
painted the points of the compass. 1 do 
not think that this style of decoration ia 

po&t boxes are usually taller and 
fm diameter than tlie modem variety. 


D.*a reply at the last reference is dis- 
appointing : he denies that the original 
*' color" of post boxes waa scarlet, but he 
doeB not say what *" color *' tliey were. 

Ralph Thomas. 

Baskish Foijc-lork about Souls (10 S. 
vi. 507). — Can the first words of these 
epitaphs, as quoted in their original, and 
tran.siat'Cd by Mr. Dodosox, *' Here rest 
the souls," &c., not also be ULnderstoood in a 
metaphoric sense, viz., '* Here rest the 
persons in their bodily remains " ? Re- 
metnber tlie Homeric usage of \px>xn't.^ like 
ai't^pturoi. for instance, ^i»Y*«i 7ro\Af»i e(9ai'oi, 
many souls perished. If Baskish arima is 
= Lat. aftimu. and boheved to repose A^itliin 
the (CTRVO (compare the infernal region of 
tljc Moljrew Sh^«r)l and Greek Hades. the abode 
of (h'parte I houIh or >-hH<le«). its meaning may 
he fi ' ' 1 tied with the psyche of the 

Pan as the vital principle of 

inaii \Mii< II If, ]H>riahable, and distinguialied 
from the pneuma of the New Testament, or 
JLb regmerated soul, raised to everlasting 
by the Holy Spirit. H. Krebs. 

Isle of Max axd the Coitstess of 
Dekbv (10 S. \'ii 01 —In vol. xxvi. of the 
Manx Society's i -ns (pp. 63-76) is 

an extract from • v PolUictiSy No. 75, 

[Nov. 6 to 13, 1*551 i and in pp. 77-81 arc 
extracte from the * Joiimal of House of 
I Engli-sh Commons.' These givo contom- 
porar>'_ detail* about tlie ettrrender of the 
Man to the Parliamentary forces. 
*Tho Land of Home Rule,' by 
Walnolc (pp. 144-60) ; and ' A 
ory of the Islo of Man,' by A. W. 
Moo«^ (pp. 265-80). EitsissT B. Sav.%.oe. 
^ ThoniAii', iKiugloM, 

Tbo nctn 
. coward 1 

Icr wa8 made by the 

-ulor forces, one Capt. 

jtun.^t wliom trea.'ion or 

1 by more than one 

the act wrta tl«>ne with 

iro of the Cotmte*?*, 

'ui!» tiuur^itul. In either case the 

CountcBS received a letter from her unlucky 
htwliand, James, seventh Earl of Derby, 
WiXitten at Chester three days before hi» 
death by court martial, in which he ailvised 

Eight years only after the event this 
passage occurs in the ' History of the World,* 
by D. Petavixis, 1659, p. 514 :— 

*• AmoDK the i.laoes thiit full this venr [1051] into 
the iKJ8««.«i8ion of Pnliainent was tne Isle of M»M, 
for retlucirm which tliree FlkjI RegimenU wyi-e 
HhiiiiK'd «t CfjcRter and Ljver]K>ol on the 16th of 
Oct., and ttlthouKh they were driven into Beau- 
iiiai-is by (contrary windH on the 18th, yet, sailinR 
from thence, on the 28th day of the same nionth 
they had aftgurauee of an i»lander of lauding ift 
Man without any opposition, all being aeourea for 
their recej)tion.' 

Christian was placed on trial for a nimiber 
of offences, including treason, in 8ept€*mber» 
1662, and condemned to be shot. Execu- 
tion took place on Hango Hill, Castletown, 
2 Jan.. 1663. 

Particulars of the surrender will be foimd 
in the following works» in addition to 
Petavius : — - 

Haiiiing (H.), Hist. SkeU'h of the Isle of Mad, 
1822. 1>. 44. , ^^ 

Thwaites (\V.), Isle of Man, m% pp. -Wand 229. 

Bnllock(H. A.), Hist, of the Isle of Man, 1816, 

Historv of the Houae of Stanley, Manchester, 
IS-Jl. p. 18.5. 

Chaloner. Treatise of the Isle of Man, 1863. 

Cummings (.1. S.), Hist, of the Isle of Man. 1848. 

Manx SiK'icty's Pnhlicalions. 

Train, Hist, of the Isle of Man, ISIT), 2 vols. 

Wm. Jagoakd. 


[Mu. J. J. H(k;o and MR. J. B. \V.usewrioht 
also thanked for repUea.1 

" Thistolow " (10 S. vi. 469).— Ma^ 
easily be a bhmdered form of " fistula,'* 
often called ** tistulow " by the unlearned. 

J. T. F. 

*Cantu8 Hibernic?!* (10 8. vii 9).— 
Tliree of the four sets of initials about which 
Mr. McGovern inquires occur in the follow- 
ing extract from " Anlhologia Oxoniensia 
decerpwit CJidiclmus Linwood, M.A.," Lond., 
1846, p. xiii :— 

"ti. B., Georyius Butler, M.A., Colt Exon. 

••W. B. J., OulielmUH Bufiil Jones, B.A. e ColL 

"R. R. W. L., Radulphus R. Whcder Lingwn, 
B.A. ColL Ilalliol, SckUw.'^ 

The other authorsi given in the list are 
the Marf|ui.s of Wellesley, Lord Grenville, 
John Ernest Bode, Osborne Gordon, tho 
Hon. William Herbert. WiUiam IJnwood, 
Charles Wordsworth (all Christ Church), 


NOTES AND QUERIES. uo s. vu. Ja.x. 20, m:. 

<TOorge Booth, Roundel I Palmer^ Gold win 
Sinitfi (all MagcialtMi Coll.), John Conington 
<Univojsity Coll.), H»^nry Haldon, James 
Oylby Loiisdale, Edwin Palmer, Jarnc^ 
Rkddell. Edward VN'aUord (all BalUol CoU.). 

The only single initials are W. (for Wel- 
leeley), U. (for GrenvUle), and B. (for 

B H. K. repregonts Benjaminna Hall 
Kenntxly, S.T.P., Coll. D. Johaunis (see 
* Arundines Cami,' aixth odit., 1865). 


13. H. K., of ' Anmdines Canii/ stands 
for Benjaminus Hall Kennedy, S.T.P., 
8cholffi Salopicnsis Archididattcalus. My 
copy of ' Sabrinsp Corolla ' (fourth edition) 
■contains but one rendering of Moort* by 
Kennedy, but iiu'luden selections from the 
poet's best-kno«ii work translated into 
Latin by Francis Kewley, John [?J Oylby 
Lonsdale, Charles Granville (tepp, Edwin 
Hamilton CJifford. Vanden Bempde JcJin- 
stone, William CJeorge Hark, and Cicorgo 
A. Chioh<»stor May. 

It is possible the G. B. of Mr. MoGovern's 
book may be George Booth, Fellow of 
Magdalen, who also contributed several 
translations of Mooro to the ' Anthologia 
Oxoniensi.s,' which are signed B, to dia- 
tiaguish them from those of George Butler. 
Chas. Giu^man. 
Church Fields, »Sali»bury. 

Scott iLLiiaTRATOKS (10 S. vii. 10). — 
Sir David Wilkie was one of the first, if not 
the very liriit, to illustrate the Waverley 
Novels. Information on this head is 
to be obtained in Scott's ' Journal,' 
and in Allan Cimningham'a • Life of Sir 
David Wilkie.' Some reference is also made 
to the subject in the volujne on Wilkie in 
"'The Makers of British Art." W. B, 

Dorothy Paston or Bedixofeld of 
York (10 S. vi. 609).— Mr. H\nsom's query 
interests me, as Vicar of Osbaldwick. Ac- 
<;ording to my i) register, " Mrs. 
Dorothy Paston, f" y" Nunnery-w''' Micklo- 
-gate Barre, York, buried Octob' y 15''', 
1734." Her will, prove<i at York same 
year, is registered an the will of Mrs. Dorothy 
Petston. The registers also record *' Eliza- 
l>eth Taaker, Cook at y Nunnery out of 
Micklcgate I^ar, York, bur: l*"-' 10''^' " ; and 
** .<;Vnn Mason, fro' v' Nunnerv, ilickle- 
gato Bar, York, B. i)'**" *20<^, 1748." 

TJje first entiy seems to point to the name 
being Paston, but the tradition of the convent 
is in favour of Bedingfield, .Vnyhow. the 
burial of the tliree in thid chui-chyard aeems 


conclusive against the Btorv' of Mother 
Mary Ward's remains having been ©ocanolly 
removed. If this had taken plac<^ it muiit 
have been in the reign of Jamea U. At ony 
other time it would have been i'-*-- -He, 
and it is most unlikely that the ILj v.v 

of the Bar Convent, who died ... . ik. 
would not have known of it, and, if she knew 
of it, would have wished to be buned neftf 
an empty grave. The inscription on Maiy 
Ward's stone is : — 

To loxie tlu- poore 

1 terse ver in Iht? sJirnP 

liue dy iiiitl Rise with 

tht^ui wa-s ull the ayine 

Mary Ward who 

Hnnin|r Iive<l (W yesu* 

niKJ 8 uHvs dved the 

20 uf Jrtti 1645. 
Mary Ward was niece to John ?• ^^^ 
topher Wright, of Plow*land, the C' • 

W. Ball \\ ... 

" Kino Cofin " : ** St. Coppht " (10 8. 
vii. 29). — Copin is the early French dim^ 
native of Jacob, formixl on the same lmt« 
a» Colin for Nicholas. That it won onco 
very common and thoroughly well iinder- 
8toL>d here im clear from the numerous 
Enghsh Kumamea derived from it. such as 
Coppin, Coppen. Copping. Coppins, Cor>- 
ponjB. &e. " St. Coppin " is no douot 
merely a familiar name for St. James. 

Jas. Platt, Jun. 

Towns unlucky for Kings (10 S. vii. 
20).— Mr. P. W. P. Carlyon-Britton. P.S.A.. 
Pn'ftident of the British Numismatic Society* 
in that Society's Journal, First Series^ vol. u. 

p. 27, says : — 
'* Mr. W. J. Andrew. F.S.A. (in 'A Nuinisaiatio 

History of the Reign nf H»'nrr I..' T' "^^^ ha» 

shown that when the X 

they found th/it the .'^ 

jtrouounced LincouL, \. 

tonitcue * the shitmd of 

tclU UR, although he d<H 

kings refused to visit tiii' 'U3. ^^ 

«eriou« loss to the citi'/ens, the uamc m 

clianKed to Nicol, thon«h it givulually i 

to itfl old form. Surely it is niort' than 

rlffiw that Hov'»*f of Wfuflovcr y)\ 

0>,i. • ' . ■- 


kn.^ . --: --.- :- --. - . ' ' ' 

thai city, Ujv it )^ itaiiJ Ui li? t<|klal Uj tii' 

are unwilhu^r tn t«>»t thf> 1n»th of it -i 

tiyrih' I' ' ' 

King A 

him to :' MS 

hrtgik the !• J 

tradition. 'I r 

OU-StM IK th«ni iiiri- r>-ji viiDuin.- ; imi vuihjO Uttf 

years it l)oeanic fhcford." 

Henry 1/b palaco of Beaomont, whcr9 



Mulfl tfH tis n| 
■ • ' of 


' y 


va jav. 20. 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


»rd T. and, probably. Jolin -were born, 
3ur&ide th<- lowii walls. Henrj' 111. 

t!i.j trtidition •>> 'tM-nq; to Wt»rftiu}> 

of St. 1 .ie in 12t54— 

_ letliebatU. . .. lctj. CLarlesl. 

j made Oxford his head-quarters for 

l^yeara, caruiot be called a fortunate 

A. R. Bayley. 

coin, whore the Royal Show is to be 
I this yrar, was considered to be unlucky 
'^ f. .r \v(> read 

il hutu] th»f, ♦.•.nt+Ts Lincoln's M'ftlls, 
--• Htorniy, nnd hit. Uiu;(doi» falls. 
1 was proved true by Stephen, who was 
there in the battle fought on 
einaH Day, 1 141, and detained prisoner 
Pft time. King John was also a frequent 
ly»itor to Lincoln, and his reign was stormy 
*"'' i. Hi« Ri>n, Henry III., wa« crowned 
ond time at Wicford, then a suburb 
coin, but he did not wear his crown 
city, in which was fought the battle 
l^tich drove the French from the kingdom, 
lo of the Dauph'm and defeat 
'W. The battle was known 
or Lincoln Fair. 


fView, Liiiuiilii- 

Christmas Boys' (10 S. vi. 481 ; 

)).— 1 havw befort* »ne an acting edition , 
Bl. Ci^orge * as played in Cornwall, i 
in.' of the performers early in I 
y. I may say that our Comiah 
s til ways asflociat'tH.l \%ith Christmas. 
|f gives only the name* of the actors, 
> churactert* they reprosiented. 
Croasman " apparently represented 
rgc. He sends his jiage to France, 
the Frf^ich prijice saj-s George is 
nd of tender years, not fit to come 
rr<«, and he will send him tlu*ee 
I that with them ho may learn to 
The wholo scene appcarw founded 
sapeare. Times? anrl aoa:^oiitJi are as 
l^the Cornitfh play as in all others. 
nan," a few minutes after the 
I scene, starts off 
Jifernal I (old 
hi]t* <uirl U'Acl [wnylflid ?] the 8]i.tiiiiuiil»' 

uf Tlnir . ,4^rl. . rttid jiort lielow 

I >ok dimnalaiid yellow 

' a» in the gall 

'' did rirc thov 

•hmrrfi - ,. Iiillnl t«ti 

Kn*nfh, t rhoni they 

'■ French 

■ li 1 then 

11 oti hia 

bended knee jiriTire Ht'iiry I niji- i»f 1 
coiuiiaiiy. I ROOh ftus+wik hnU\ ^^(>^^<h>u 
went rtnd took t)ui Sjwintsh Crowu, 'I h li 

Crowii WQ socui thcji woq, And now we have show^ed 
you uU our fun." 

The text is corrupt. Tlie hat is taken round 
at the close, with an invitation *' to sub- 
scribe a little part to pay the doctor's fee." 

The incidents and phrases constantly 
recall those cited by Mii. Gordon Brows. 
Avith variations, of course, as " 1 will cut 
thy doublet full of eyelet holes and make 
thy buttons fly." The King of Egypt is 
father of St. George. 

In a vc^rsiiin of ' The Peace Egg ; or» 
St. George's Annual Play for the Amusement 
of Youth ' (.1. Harkneaa, Preston, n.d.), 
we have 

Here come I, Beelzebub, 

And over tny Hhouldcr 1 carry a club. 

I think my.<iclf a jol!y old man, &c. 

In our Cornish version ; — 
llrre t!cimes I old Buelzehuh 
irpon my shotUdcr I oarry a club 
And in my hnnd a dripjang d'aii) 
And am not 1 a handHomtj gojxl Ljukingold man. 

The metro is extraordinaiy. In the 
Quebec passage above it is beyond my 
understanding altogether, as is also the 
meaning of part of the words. I have 
corrected the spelling, which would bo 
imintelhgible to any not acquainted with 
the Cornish accent. Yorec. 

Let me draw the attention of readers of 
* N. & Q.' to Thomas Hardy's ' Return of 
the Native,* which was written many years 
ago, and the scene of which is laid in Dorset- 
shire, a county where many primitive cua- 
toras yet linger. In it is a graphic descrip- 
tion of the visit of the " mummers " at 
Christmas to Mra. Yeobright's farm-house, 
and the frontispiece depicts the scene, 
representing them arrayed m their streamers 
and ribbons. An aged aborigine, named 
'' Granfer Cantle " hew been' instructing 
them for some time previously as to their 
mode of acting, which, as he tells them, 
would not have done in his own early days. 
But the whole story is well worth jierusal. 
'John Pickford, M.A. 
Newbottrne Rectory, Wood bridge. 

Cambriogk Booksellers and Printers 
(10 S. vii. 2(5). — I should like to know the 
authority from which H. R. gives this list 
of Cambridge booksellers. " John Boieden*, 
1.50*2," is not, I suspect, a Cambridge 
bookseller (see E. G. Duff's ' Centurj' of 
the English Book Trade,' p. 15 ; and 
H. R, Plomer's ' Wills of English Prvi\\.«T<i 
and Stationers,' p. 55). 1 Vvwi & coi^-^- o^. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vn. ja>. 26. m 

his will some time ago. He died in 1603, 
and his will was proved 30 March, 1503. 

Peter Breynans, 1504. — His will is un- 
dated, but is supposed to be about 1504. 

John Skarlett, 1502. — This dato should 
be 1551. 

John Sought, 1563. — Is the name correctly- 
printed ? 

Nicholas SpjTyne, 1545. — This is Nicholas 

The wills of Breynans, Skarlett, and 
Spierinck are printed, with information of 
other earlier Cambridge booksellers, in 
G. J. Gray's * Earlier Cambridge Stationers 
and Bookbinders and the First Cambridge 
Printer,' 1904 ; whilst R. Bowes's * Bio- 
graphical Notes on the University Printers 
from the Commencement of Printing in 
Cambridge,' 1886, gives particulars of the 
printers. Any one working at this subject 
should consult these works, euid idso R. 
Bowes's ' Catalogue of Ccunbridge Books,' 
1894. G. J. Gkay. 

The Elms, Chesterton, Cambridge. 

John Newbery's Grave (lO^S. vii. 27). 
— ^I can inform Mb. P. E. Newberby that 
the grave of John Newbery, the publisher, 
is in the churchyard of the Berkshire village 
of Waltham St. Lawrence, his native parish. 
Goldsmith's punning epitaph was not placed 
on the tombstone. The following is the 
inscription on tlie gravestone : — 

Here lieth the Ixxly of 

John Newbery, 

Of St. Paul's Churchyard. London, Bookseller 

Who died Decenil)er 22"**, 1767, 

Aged 54 years. 

Stay, itasseneer, and contcmjilate 

Virtues which antse on this sjiot ; 

Urbanity that adome<i Society ; 

Knowledge that instructed it ; 

Sagacity that discerned, and 

Skill that introduced. 

The most iwwerful discovery 

In the annals of medicine ; 

The humble Wisdom that taught 

And still teaches moral lessons 

To the rising generation. 


That a breast inspired with such virtues 

Is sunk in dust. 


That through Christ 

It is immortal. 

The reference to the "most powerful dis- 
covery in the annals of medicine " is to the 
** James's Powders " which Newbery placed 
upon the market. 

Newbery's daughter Mary and her hus- 
band Michael Power arte buried in the same 
grave as John Newbery. 

An article on Newbery by^the present 

writer appeared in The Maidenhead Akut' 
tiaer on 21 November last. 
4 Henry E. Bankabd. 

Littlewick Lodge, nr. Maidenhead, Berka. 

According to ' A Bookseller of the Laii 
Century,' by Charles Welsh, 1885, p. 70, 
John Newbery was buried at Walthsin 
St. Lawrence, near Twyford, Berks, with w 
epitaph by the Rev C. Hunter, author of 
the life of Christopher Smart. 

Wm. H. Pebt. 

In a reprint of an article in The Chemilt 
and Druggist of 25 July, 1896— a copy rf 
which Mr. Lionel Newbery, of the firm of 
Francis Newbery & Sons, in Charterhoosfr 
Square, kindly gave me on an occasion when 
I was making certain inquires about tb» 
history of the firm — the year in which John 
Newbery died was 1776, not 1767. 

J. Holden MacMichasl. 

[Much information about Newbery and Jsnes'i 
Is was contributed at 9 S. viii. 1 1 by Mr. Edwabi^, who had then in his iKMsession tbfl 
original aut<>gra])h account-t)ook of F. Newbery «• 
agent for James's fever jKiwdcrs and pills.] 

Queen Victoria of Spain : Name-Dat 
(10 S. vii. 30). — Princess Ena of Battenberg, 
the consort of Spain's young king, is nov 
officially known in that country by the titk 
of Queen Victoria. Li the Ni*evo Mtmdo 
(Madrid, 20 December) a portrait of her if 
given in an illustrated article, which supplia 
all the information required by Hbloa 
We are told that when the princess wai 
received into the Catholic Church, she cho« 
as her advocate {abogada)^ or patron saint 
St. Victoria, Virgin and Martyr, whose feairi 
is celebrated on 23 December, which is ther& 
fore the Queen's name-day (fiesta onomdetica) 
and has been duly honoured in her adoptee 
country. It is the first of her baptisma 
names, which are Victoria Eugenie Julu 
Ena, by which last slie was known befoe 
her marriage. Whilst she must have bea 
greatly pleased when she was asked tf 
assume the title of Queen Victoria of Sp«ii) 
as she was thereby reminded of her illustrioo 

frandmother, she was also pleasing tb 
panish nation. It appears that St. Xk 
toria's remains, though she was bom i 
Italy and there received the crown of martyi 
dom, are in Spain, in the town of Vinara 
in the province of Castell6n. *' How di 
this come to pass ? " asks the writer, wli 
lives in the same place. So long ago f 
1782, the then Bishop of Solsona, who iri 
a native of Vinaroz, through an inta 
mediary, requested Pius VI. to grant lot 
one of the bodies of the saints in the ctK 

' -m Jan. » iftK.i NOl'ES AND QUERIES. 


1 choeo that of St. Victoria, which 

I oerneterj' of Lucrna. A stone bore 

ption : '* VLxit victorja annus xviii. 

X. diets XV. horaa x." On 12 March, 

the petition was granted, and the 

[Tututiiiis were placed in a handsome urn, 

her with the vase which had contained 

tion of the martjT's blood. But it 

until 19 January, 1785, that the 

we>re embarked on the Tiber, whence 

were carried to Genoa, and afterwards 

ilona, where they arrived on 6 June, 

id, a few days later, were deposited 

I cbtirch of St.. Augustine in the town 

DaroK, where they have remained ev^er 

8t. Victoria was bom of patrician parents 
>tt1%ar, now Tivoli, a few milee from Rome. 
^ had been promiaed in marriage to 
Bttgenius, but, as ho was a pa^an, she re- 
tuwd to wed him ; whereupon she waa 
Jfnoaneed as a Christian, thrown into 

Cn. and, refusing to adore the goddess 
—a, ahe wan stabbed through the lieart. 
V the *^x#H^utioner. Her death occurred 
in the third centm^' of our era, in tiie time 
of the Em|>eror Decia^, one of the crueUest 
powrutors of the Christians. 

John T. Cubry. 

The head in f i*. I think, incorrect, as 
H.M. iuM after her marriage an- 

wishod to be referred to 
Victoria Eug<''nie, I gather from 
_ ,*» qviery that the banquet took place 
S8 December. On that day in the year 
tll>8t. Victoria of TivoU, Virgin and Martyr, 
J«ffi»ped dfBth. Her life is told in verse 
WSt Ahlhf'Im. 

' i of Rome waa martyred on 

V. 258, and she was formerly 

v»\u*i\ in some French dioceses 

8t. Ano^tAMia at the second Mass 

.y. Her fea8t 18 kept on 30 Decem- 

the Chtu-ch of the Holy Apostles, 

the greater part of her relics 

red. Some of then^ are said to 

,l<..n t-. j^pain in the eleventh 

in France, 

:. 1 (of Ciii-(I(iv'»\i is men- 

tho Horn an * Msi ' under 

John B. V\ i uiomt. 

> Oiiholic Majesty, when she was oon- 

*^ -1. only took in afldition 

s that of M*r>% in honour 

^n . I he occasion, however, to 

L«>A n*f''rs, wlnen th« Qiieen gave 

the palao^', wa* the feast of 

Virgm and Martyr, com- 

fthitHfumof* * Marty rology ' on 

'23 December, and was therefore quite 
correctly described as her name day. 
St. Victoria's relics are venerated in Rome, 
according to a MS. in ray collection, in the 
churches of S. Adriano, S. Ignazio, and S%nt* 
Andrea at Quirinale. 

Kartwell D. Grissell, F.S.A. 

The answer to Heloa's query is very 
simple. On 23 December the Chiu"ch keepa i 
the feast of St. Victoria, Virgin and MartjT, J 
by wliich name the Queen of Spain waa < 
baptized. Hence it is most properly called ' 
her " name " day. It is not her birthday, 
or the dav on which she was reconciled to 
the Catholic Church, as we know that cere- 
mony took place in the spring of last year. 
Enoush Catholic. 

[Mr. E. S. Dodoson also thanked for reply.] 

Pennell's ' Life of Leland * (10 S. vii. 
25). — The oath in question is a comparatively 
mild version. TeremUtt^ means " he has 
created it," and is the second word in the 
Hungarian Old Testament. I liave seen 
the oath twice in print recently : in Glase- 
napp'a ' Life of Richard Wagner ' (Leip- 
zig. 190+-5) and in the maostro*s poema 
(* Gedichte von Richard Wagner,' Berlin. 
1905). It must have been in common use 
in Budapest in 18(J3, or the composer would 
not have picked it up. Of course, ho knew 
as little about its meaning as Leland or Mrs. 

A stronger version of the oath is in use 
amongst the lowest order of the Magj'ars 
and their fellow-countrymen the Slovacks. 
A friend of mine has heard it among the 
Tatars in the Caucasus ; and a<^cording to 
Lexer's ' Mittelhoehdeutsches Handwo ter- 
buch ' (j*.«. ' Serten ') it is used in Germany 
also. Old Eberhart Windeeke. in the fif- 
tf'enth century, complains that when ho 
retninded Sigisinund about a debt he owed 
to a Bruges merchant, for wliich ttie chro- 
nicler hakl become surety, the emperor 
became angry and used the stronger version, 
of the oath (Dr. Wilhelm Altmann's edition, 
Berlin, 1893, p. 81). 

The equivalent of the first wortl of the 
Hungarian oath is verj^ frequently used as an 
adjective by the lower class of English work- 
men. L. L. K. 

'' Plump" in Voting (10 S. vi. 148, 212, 
276. 37T). — At the last reference M\.job 
BrxTERWORTH quotes a literary extract 
showing the use of the word in 1807. I had 
previously sent direct to Dr. Murray 
quotations from the Poll aad 8c^m\>:» l^ockSs.. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. jan. 28, m. 

for the Liverpool election of tlie same year. 
But recently I have discovered that the word 
plump was used popularly as early as 1761 
in the sense inquired for by Dr. Mubray. 
As. these latter references, already com- 
municated to Dr. Murray, could not, I 
imagine, be utilized in the ' Dictionary,' 
I venture to ask you to give them shelter 
in the friendly covers of * N. & Q.' 

The election of Liverpool of 1761 was 
between Sir Wm. Meredith, Bt., Sir ElUs 
Cunliffc, Bt., and Charles Pole, Esq. At 
this period the pottery trade in Liverpool 
was exceedingly vigorous, vast quantities 
being exported to the West Indies and 
America. According to the Poll Book of 
1761, no fewer than 102 potters gave 
plimipers to Sir William Meredith. 

In the election '' literature " of the day 
occur these ; — 

The Potters Song. 
Ye tnic-hearted fellows, free plun)j>ers and men, 
Indei)eudent in Britain, how great is yoiir claim, &c. 

Kegardlesn of great ones, wo live uncontrolled ; 
We're letters and i)lumi)or8, we are not to be sold, 

But the cliief interest to readers of * N. & Q.* 
will be foimd in the following extract from 
a pamphlet by Joseph Mayer, F.S.A., 
'History of the Art of Pottery in Liverpool': 

** There were made, to commemorate the victory 
gained by .Sir William, cui)s called * Plumper Mugs,' 
one of which was Kiven to every burgess wlio votea 

on the winning side It is of the usual white 

earthenware, and on the front of it, within a rude 

border of ovals, arc the words 

Sir William 



scratched in, and filled in with blue colour, whilst 

the clay was soft, and l)efore it was tii-ed." 

Thus the word has been transmitted to us 
in a material, certainly not perennius cere, 
yet quite of sufficient substance to be handed 
down to be reproduced, as the author of the 
pamphlet has carefully done, to acquednt 
us that in 1761 plumper w€w in popular use 
and popidarly imderstood in the sense 
inquired after by Dr. Murray. J. H. K. 

Cambridge University Chancellor, 
1842 (10 S. vii. 30).— Will you allow mo 
to use your columns to thank the numerous 
writers of answers to my query about tlie 
Chancellor of Cambridge in 1842 ? They 
have told me excMitly what I wanted to know. 
W. K. W. Chafy. 

West Indian Military Records (10 S. 
vi. 428, 476 ; vii. 14). — I much regret 
having overlooked Mb. M. J. D. Cockle's 
reply at the second reference to my query. 

I may say that my information was derived 
from a printed document, with blanks filled 
in, deposing that 

"Edward Stapleton, Esgn., maketh oath that he 
had not Iwtween the 24th June, 18Io, and 2iith De- 
comlier followiufj any other place or enipkiyment oif 

1>rofit, civil or military, under His Majesty, besiik* 
lis allowance of halt-my as a reduced Emicn ia 
the 1 1th late West India Regiment,' &c. 
T must admit that the original document (nfr 
longer in my possession) from wliich I miidfr 
the preceding extract was much worn and 
partly illegible, so possibly Mr. Cocklb*» 
su|:gestion is in accordance with the facta. 
Will it help the matter if I mention the famfljr 
tradition that the above-neuned Edward 
Stapleton (who died 90 years ago) was ia 
a regiment of marines ? On retiring from 
service, he acquired a considerable fortaoa 
as a merchant in the West Indies, owninf 
estates in Martinique and Antigua. H» 
died in the latter island, but I have not 
been able to learn whether or not any 
memorial was erected. In his will, dated 
7 May, 1809, he refers to 

" my dear wife, Elizabeth Stapleton, whose maidoi 
name was Leak, and who was since the widow of 
John Dovle, of Strawberry, in the Queen's County, 
in the Kingdom of Ireland, and whom I inter 
married in the Island of Martinique, in the West 

She is said to have been an officer's widow. 

A. Stapleton. 
l.TS, Noel Street, Nottingham. 

Palimpsest Brass Inscriptions (10 S. 
vii. 27).— The words "que fino %'iemes'* 
appear to be Castilian, meaning " who died 
Friday." Find, in the sense of '' deceased,'* 
" ended life," is common in Spanish epitaphs^ 


" Posui Deum adjutorem meum " (10 S. 
vii. 29).— Sec Psalin li. 9, Vulg. (lii. 7, A.V.), 
" Ecce homo, qui non posuit Deum adin- 
toremsuum." Edward Bensly. 

University College, Al)er>'«twyth. 

This legend, found upon English silv* 
coins from 1360 to 1602, is generally i3i»f 
sidered to be an adaptation of Psalm liv. 4 
"Ecce enini Deus adjuvat ine," (**BefaoId, 
God is mine helper "). A. R. Bayley. 

Riming Deeds (10 S. vi. 466). — May 
point out that the Roger Burgoyne BML 
tioned must be a Roger Burgoyne of WU^ 
more, Nortli Staffordshire ? I think (wii 
ing from memory) ho was constable of Joi 
of Gaunt's manor of Newcastle-imder-Lyin 
of wliich manor Whitmore is a meonbf 
Polton was also a North Staff ordsliire nan 

Any information concerning memben 

HE 3a 

3as. aj. 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


fy of Star " I ■ daring 
I I sUouli >hi\ for. 

iotis ot tiio Stafford 

til Society. 

i..M,Vi<LE8 SwVNNEttTON. 

^LDs's Portraits of Miss Gheville 

'Vi. -SO).— The picture of Mi;sd Frances 

and }ier brother, cluldren of 

.as Hebti' and Cupid, m the 

lie Earl of Crewe. Its history- 

, il>od in Graves and Cronin's 

ork on Sir Joshua Rej-nolds. 


TARA Inscriptions at Stenioot : 
c " Warden (10 S. vii. 6).—" Potie " 
ty. A good deal of information 
iohn Guevara is to be found in vol. ii. 
Calendar of Border Papere.' 

JoffN B. Wainewhioht. 

kr'9 Ancestry (10 S. vii. 9.) — Therp 
ands in Mid-Cornwall. East and 
^Mniberland. West D\im fries. South 
lid - Lancashire, Mid - Westmorland, 
gast Wi^onsliire, and Mid-Dumfries. 
unpegs ' Gazetteer.' 

J. HoLOEN BIacMichael. 

BN<yrKS ON BOOKS, kc, 

^Lf^net Roll of ttu lilMul liovcU, By the 

■?( Ruvij?»y amllUinoval. (T. C. k K. C. 

'TViT— jimstTP" IS mnf\r iritli the important 
I iic M(ii'(iuis ot 
.1 list ot thcisc 
! royal caii be 
devoted to tlie 
I for which see 
VJ) -uii'iJi'd \ ["'11 "t the liMMK di'Ht-cndant.s 
' IV. Jim! Hi-Jirv VII. or Kn^Itind ami 

It I 

nl (see 10 8. jv. 
'.e the diiLscen- 
fnl»r<, fleeting, 

' ' 'i now 


i Sir 

^ uooe mor» ohlU«m^d i« tli»i followed in 
rolumo iiud Iti (U pmdecestsor the 

Tudor vohiUKi. FiftTt'-t>in<> connociii -' -how 

the domviit from Kdward IIL ji i of 

Hainaiilt to the last •.•enttiry. the i .r«j oJF 

the iterHoiis l&at immt-d l>ciit^ t^iveti \h (hu hody 
of the work. The t*ec<>iKl tijile btjgins with the 
mariiage*? of Lady Aiint< Plautagi>iiet, I)iu'hcf*H of 
lOxcter. By the second nmniH^f c»nic th»i Lmly 
Aimc Si. Lt'Kcr, who, mftnyiiiK Sir tieortre MiiuuHts, 
twelfth Lord Ros, hec«me mother of the Hrst Karl 
of Hiitlatid, tho iircsent nmlc reprt'st-ottvlivo of 
whoiii is the eighth l)i;ko of Hntlnnd. Of Ida jirc* 
decessor, the seventh Ihike. louj? known as Lord 
John Mnnner«, an admirable iiortrait is iiresentecl. 
Another itortrait is that of Philiji, thini I^ord Du 
LiHle and Dudley, who (and not the Duku of 
Rutland) is the heir nf liny of the Lady Anne 
PlftntHueiiet, Ducheas of Exeter. For the first time 
sinoe the dejith of thi.s sister of two Knftlifh kin^s, 
4.% years a^o, her lilood i« united with that of her 
brother Kuij; Eclward's royiil «l«^Hcendanta in the 
graudehildren of his iirceent Majesty, their Hinh- 
nossefl the I'rineeases Alexandra and Aland of tiroat 
Britain and Ireland, they beinjc deseenderl fr(»ni 
Edward I\^. through their mother, H.R.H. the 
Princess Royal. lhn?hefH of Fife, arul fruin iJunhess 
Anne through their father, the l>uk« of Fife. 

Tho j»re^ent volume coniidete*, aeoordini; to the 
Mai*i)uis de Riivij^iy, the Roll of the descendantt* 
of Riclmrd. Uuke of York. who«e claim to the 
throne led to the Wars of the Sum- 
manKinji; the vohinies alrea<Iy puhlished, we have a 
single pedigree containing the names t>f from twenty 
U) thirty thouHand living de-sf-t-ndantH of Rioharff, 
Duke oi York, and showing l2H,(.ttl HC|>arate lines 
of deseeiit fronj him. AH the crowned heads of 
F.urone, with the exneiition of the Kin;;s of Sweden 
and Servia and the Prinee of Montenegro, are in- 
oludtd in the Roll, as well an ."171 peers, many of 
the hijiher nobility of Euronean oountrie?!, and the 
old aristocracy of* the Soutnern States uf America, 
To thcNe fac'tw the Mfutmis poiriits with just pride, 
A Binwle volume will (leal with the descendantjs 
of leatKjl Plantagenet, wife of Henry (liourohicr). 
Count of En and Earl of Essex. 

In atidition to the iHr>rtruits alrefldy mentioned 
the illuBtrations include those of Ricliarti Plan- 
tagenet, third Duke of York i of Cecily,, iJiK-hess of 
York ; the tftinb of Thomas, first Eurl of Rutbind : 
Arthur, tirnt Lord Canell, and his futnily: Ijudy 
ElJznbetli iHilnu:-, ju.'t Howard ; Mary lierJell, wife 
of Sir Thomas Leventhorpe : Sir Edwat^l Chester, 
of Hoyston ; Catherine. Counte8.s of DorrjlieHttr : 
the Duke of Fife, K.f J. : HJ-t.K. the Princess 
Royal, I>uchc»s of Fife ; and T.H. the Prinees.ges 
.\lexandra and Maud. 

Th Riot at the GrfcU GtxJft of Trinitt/ Co/ffif, />/»- 

man/, l^nO^JL By J. W/ Chirk. M.A., F.S.A. 

(Cambridge, Deiphton k Bell and Macmilkn k 

Howes; L/jndon, Bell k Sons.) 
Tuts is the latest of tho "octavo publie^itions" of 
the Cambridne Antitpmrian Society, which does not 
niiitine it,s*^lf to local history, as the list of members 
and publications we roocivo at the Hametime hIkiwr. 
The memberHhip has now reached 301. as eomparetl 
with 274 last year. It i« honied to increase thix 
total, as " the resource,'? of the »»ociety are smaller 
than itrt needs, and can l>e enlarged in the ordinary 
course of things only by an increaao in tho nictnl>er. 
I shii>." 

There could be no better commendation for the 
averoge m&n of this academic Iiody tbon tU*i v^V*^ 


AND QUERIES. [lO & VIL Jan. Sf, 

by this Re^strary, the title of which heads thiK 
notice. It reproseiit« history, erudition, aikI enter- 
tAiniuent JiU in one* We have hure, in fact. »i, lively 
jac'comih of a ooUo^e "row" iM^rwopn JoIui'b aurl 
Trinity ntsiirly 30JJ yciirs a^o. with the ilepositions 
t«kcn dmiug the punitive jtrooetdinga which 

Thu occasion of the riot was & tiUy At Christinas 
tiinc in thu UftH "^f Trinity, mid tiie pretext the 
^itficultv of jotting into thut f'(>llege nnd tindinn^ 
aeats. Ill-feeling kietweiMi the Trinity men and the 
Johnians iu, however, regaixled as the Imais of the 
AtTnir. two of the latt«r JieinK uApeeially nn|iO|iular. 
The *'strtgekeej>ers'' mentioned iire rec'o;niiy,ed by 
Mr. Cliurk as stewards of the iierfornianoe ; they 
•carried links to ju;iveliKht on a wijiter's eveninc, and 
these they used na weapons of otfenee, Oxley, n 
Johnian, complained that "a 3tAu;ekeei>er . . linkt 
him Horc, stritiug him with the tlamt; uf his liiike 
upon his hand : and stroke at his face which lighted 
ou his breast." He also got u blow over the face 
•with a chib, whicb "niade hin face liluck and blue 
divers dayes after." A go<xl deal of Btone-throwing 
followed/ and a self-eleeted chftmjtioJi uf Trinity 
went through the lonn iioseape (whi<h then con- 
tinued the tireal 4{ftle) into the street. »ind holdiujij 
ji, danger by the iwint, 8houted onl in Homeric 
atyie : " Where be theae Johnians * h there none 
•of the rogue* will answer ft man 1 Zounds, I will 
throw my dagger ainonKst them." The da^er, 
however, seems to have been hidden when the V loc- 
Chaucellor api«eured to quell the riot, which broke 
cut. again as soon as he went into Trinity. 

The further «}i>crationH ended in favour of John's, 
but cannot be exhibited here, or they depend on 
features of the buildiuKH of Trinity not now in ex- 
iBtence. All iw, however, mode clear in the paper 
by a map of l.'M^'i. A porter of Jolinp threw down 
the biittlemeniJ* of the cardon wall at Triuity, for 
-which feat he was ordered to be put iuto|>riso» and 
then intfj the stocks. 

The intt^rest of this Rplcndid "rag*' is obvious. 
Shakespeare himstslf may iiave hoard of it. The B. A. 
of this time is mcnticmwl without his Christtian name 
with the addition of "Sir," which represents the 
Latin "Dominus" still familiar in the abbrtria- 
tion •' !)».*' at CambridfM-. This recalls Sir Oliver 
Marte.xt in 'As You Like It." Jane Hall on oath 
sworo thtit she beard two Kcholttrs say: " Heer 
wUIh* «»uld scufUinn at thi« end of the town within 
these tijree or foure ni^sht* ; for we hearo that tber 
tt,r stones prepared to thug from the tuwera." This 
jiopular u.w of "ohl" in that of a jKirter in 'Mae- 
lieth,' 11. iii. : " If a nmn were iM.»rter of Hell-gate, 
he Hhonld hnvu old turning the key." 

A careful aitpendix c<.»nects what is kmiWTi as t-o 
the academic c»»i-uer, [)rofe3f«iou, ftc, of the iwriions 

A TrxtliMk of Fuiiifi. By G«orge MasBce. (Duck- 
worth ft. Co. ) 
j^I, \i .Ku.ri- ift a rceognixed authority on his 
g,il li he has here treated with lulwi ruble 

(,li,i -, iiupplying references to various 

aci\tt'--nii jiiper»of iniporUUM'e t-o the expert. The 
book is not for the K«-^neral lender, but for 
rtudrtit** who are cnncernetl with the morpho- 
logieid, biological, An<l ])hy»iologic,al 8i<ie« of the 
jaihte/'t Any nt»e who reiida it ciirefully r^nnot 

fai ■ i ^ ■.!,..,. .<r-,. 

Wi. 'II 

iun,.. I '' ■ '-^'^ 

of reproduction, their behaviour ntid»v 
and ftecipiercl mv?i, and interesting i 
riaraxitiNin (artiH*ially induccilliandTo i 
Inj*t te-ature may ncoount tor .^omu 
explaincii liii;ht*< in wild jilaces. 

The style of the book is indiflfcrenl 
help reiiTetting the uncouth word.s w i 
science has prodiiovil, and %vliioh ;■. 
make ttcnltivdt* '1 i ' i 

ha.s abundant ill 
generally eallcfl 

tive funi;i. and eoocludfji^ with a lu< 
raotlem cla*Mificatitjn. The iiraotiri 
subjt^jt is exhibited in an " 
'Legislation and Diwuii^e.' 
pjira>»itie funjji are reHj>nt)~i 
which exceedB 150,«l)(t.»)ua/. J !. 
an old enemy of the cultivator ; i 
common in Kurope ; nr\fl del'.' 
viouHlv unknown to this luutr 
j^etnally injported with setfl.M. .s i 
may recall a rec^^nt order issueti i 
Ameri'vin gooseberry nnldew, which 1> 
Atlantic, neing introiliiced by stMji 
means to a new field of vigi»nr. \^^ 
would b^ worth while tu examine lis 
the 1 tort of entry for concpieuoua diMct-^e,- 
Innately, in many cjwics. <.f/., in bulbs, tlK> 
of the fungus its concealed from view. 


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Litemry Mph — sismondi's 'lUlian Repub- 


^fe( CoBflKTT found it ne«dful in 
^■npenk of London as a " gr^at wen/* 
^B^dly tliiiik what he would call it 
^pBent'day ; hut wt^ uvay feel a.ssared 
Bfrtmahter c»f vigorous Kiiglb*h would 
ao lortH fi»r an expn^wsivo phrase to 

Ittis itnpression. What would ho 
I Ahont the chanik'f* already nia<le 
m Htill goinj* nji ? Wegtminster in the 
m wvw a ^ooil many changes, many 
■Tiowevt-r, ninTely cM>ntinuations <»f 
iiad biH'Ti ]>reviou8ly hej^un. 
t!»t«rt with tl'-- i*'i.'** i»i1i' of buildings 
I by thr K«"c i ' ( uLnxioners— 

r.jC- i,,r thn^ . and for an 

/»l the corner of Millbank 
r.'rtt (V.M.uM- Strert, it may he 
1 4red 

...... , , y let 

rlivy ufcinnt.d m \\ lutehalli 

ijv yeiu^. and which of late 

Lt« I '■'■", ■■ ■ 1 ■ '■ " I le of 


V r ii 3 

It * >*''(^n 

to the offices of Mr. W, D. Caroe and Mr. H. 
Paasniore, the former gentleman beinp; thti 
architect to the Commissioners, and the 
de«igner of the building in which ho now 
tindrt himself luxuriou^nly housenl. He. to«i, 
has left the neighbourhood of W'hiteljall] 
having vacatwi his oflTice in WliitehaM Vard', 
formerly occupied by Mr. Ewan CJiristian! 
a well-known architect of an oarher era. 
The next door ia numbered 5, and leads to 
the ofliceft of Messrs. Clutton., the well- 
known aiu^eyoTS, who also have left White- 
hall Place, this arrangement being evidently 
for convenience. Roiuid the corner in 
Little College Street there are two door^ 
giving access to offices, No. 1 being occui>ied 
by Messrs. Smiths, Gore &; Co., and No. 'A 
bV Metisrs. JenningB, White & Fo;?ter. com- 
tms8ioner» for i)ath.H. A portion of tht* 
roadway in Great College Street, and tFio 
whole of tiiat in Little College Street, liave 
been widened, bvit are not yet f^ni^iherl. In 
Millbank Street niatters remain pretty nmeli 
a8 at the clone of 1905, except that all the 
wharves and other premt.-ies on the I'iver- 
wide are in a more deplorable and dilajiidated 
condition as time goes on. Two h»»usert 
have been demolished, and an addition 
erected for the Electric Generating Com- 
pany, M'hich seems somewhat jieculiar, as 
all the tenants are virtually under notice to 
quit. In Church Street, nearly opposite, lead- 
ing from MilJbank Street, to the east end of 
the church of St. John the Evangehst in 
Sniitli Square, some Jiou'^ea (about four or 
five) were at the end of tfie year being tle- 
molished. They were of no partictdar 
merit, nearly all let out in tenements. l>ut 
one of them hat! been the residence of .several 
Westmin.ster curates in the pa-st. With 
tlic^e houses has been obliterated from tho 
maj) of L(mdon Horne and Groom "S'ard, 
which at its Church Street end was onty a 
thorougldare for |w>de«trian3 ; but at thr 
other end in Wood Street it was mueJi wider, 
anti contained .some stables, warehouscii, 
&c. X believe that the fiat has been issu«yi 
for the demolititm of the great«?r portion i»f 
Tufton Street and the whole of .Marsliani 
Street, in the interest of an exceefhngly 
large scheme for the reconstitution of t)ii« 
(•art of St. John's ijarisji ; but it i.s (ht^eii)t 
to get any particulars, ba the peopli' are 
inclined to keep what information tlu-y 
have to themselves ; at the close of the year, 
however, nothing had been done. In Smith 
Square, North Street, arjd Romney Street 
there was no change from the previous year, 
but tho inunediato futiue Is full of uIu'^t- 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. fhl 2, 

The land£atfthe comer of Wood Street 
and Tuft on Street was acquired at the 
beginning of the year by the Society for the 
Propagation of tne Gk>8pel, as its home in 
Delahay Street had been bought by the 
Gk)vemnient, it being within the scheme for 
housing some important departments. This 
house, which at the end of the year just 
closed was still in the Society's occupation, 
was purchased by the Government for 
27,000/., but up to that time no steps had been 
taken towards the erection of the " suitable 
home in which to live, or rather from which 
to extend to all parts of the world." It has 
also been written that 

"no one can accvise the Society, which kept it* 
2(^th birthday last year, of having made undue 
haste to proWcle itselt with a house, Tor it has lived 
for nearly 205 years, either in no house at all, or at 
best (during the last thirty years) in a house which 
it purchased, hut which was not proiwrly adapted 
for this work.'* 

A full description of the old house will be 
found in The Mission Field for February, 
1906. It is claimed that the site chosen 
for its new home will afford ample room 
for a building which will enable the work to 
be carried on in comfort, unhampered by 
lack of space, for many years to come. 

At the comer of Tufton Street and Great 
College Street is the home of the Society of 
St. John the Evangelist. The chapel (of 
which the foundation stone was laid by the 
Bishop of London on 20 July, 1904) has 
been completed, and was consecrated by the 
same prelate on 21 July last year. He was 
assisted at the ceremony by the Bishop 
of Springfield, Illinois. The service was 
strictly private, as so many persons wished 
to be x)resont that all had to be refused — 
the building being very small. Next to the 
chapel stands the new building, known as 
the Parish Institute of St. Jolm's. It was 
opened for use in December, but what may 
be called its " official " opening has been 
delayed, I believe, in order that the Duke 
of Westminster may take part in it. The 
building may be suitable for the purpose for 
which it has been designed, but to most of 
the ccksual observers the massive pillars 
will, I fear, give it a heavy appearance. 
Such a building has been long wanted, and 
Archdeacon Wilberforce is to be congratiilated 
on having at last overcome the many diffi- 
culties by which its inception was beset. 
Its front covers one entrance to the now 
obliterated Black Dog Alley. 

W, E. Hakland-Oxley. 

{To be continued.) 

(See 10 S. vi. 361, 402 ; vii. ; 


Pj>. 1-16. The i>rogres8 of love, in four eol« 

lb-18. Solilo«iuy of a beauty in the c 
V\ ritten at Eton school. 

19-25. Blenheim, written at the univ. of 
in 1727. 

25-30. To the reverend Dr. Ayacough at * 
written from Paris in 1728. 

31-4. To Mr. Poyntz ('D.N.B.'), ambass 
the congress of .Soissons in 1728. Written a 

34-5. Verses to l)e written under a pic 
Mr. Poyntz. 

35-8. Epistle to Mr. Pope from Rome. 17 

38-41. To my lord [HerveyJ in 173J 


41-6. Advice to a lady. 1731. 
46-7. Song written in 1732. 

Delia was Mary Greville, eldest daugl 
the Hon. Algernon Greville, wife of I 
burgh Boughton, and mother of the 
and ninth baronets of the family of Bou 
She was one of the bedchamber woi 
Queen Charlotte, died Cavendish S 
London, 1 March, 1786 {Oent. Mag., 
pt. i. 267). 

47-8. Sonj? written in 1733. 

49-50. Damon and Ditlia, in imitation of 
and Lydia, written in 1732. 

51-2. Ode in imitation of Pastor Fido, 
abroad in 1729. 

52-4. Part of an elegy of TibuUus trai 

55. Song written in 1732. 

56. [Lines] Written vjit Mr. Pope's he 
Twickenham, which he > had lent to Mrs. 
[(irevillej in August. 1735. 

57. Epigram. 

57. [Lines] to Mr. West at Wickhani in 17 

58-66. Sot of poenjs addressed to Miss Li 
[Miss Forte.scue, aftei-wards his wife]. 

67-78. To the memory of the same lady, a n 

Gray ('Letters,* ed. Tovey, i. 172] 
Wliarton : — 

" Have you seen Lyttelton's Monody 
Wife's death ? there are partfl of it too st 
poetical: but others truly tender and elej 
one would wish." 

79. Verses, i>art of an epitaph on the same 
All the above are by George, first 
Lyttelton (' D.N.B.'). Nichols says 
the poem addressed to Ayscough (i 
pp. 25-30), Lyttelton's tutor at Oxfor 
later Dean of Bristol, was by Anne, sis 
Lord Lyttelton, who afterwards marrii 
Dean. Ayscough d. 16 August, 1763. 

80-108. On the abuse of travelling, a ct 
imitation of Spenser. 

Gray ('Letters,* ed. Tovey, i. 78), n 
to Richard Weet, 1740, says :— 

II. jteb. 2, 1807.]. NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Vftlpole and I hnvo freciuetitly wotidered 
Jd never ai(e»tiiin ft oertain iniitation of 
kubliKlieid last yeAt by a namesake of yonre 
:h we Are aU etiravtiired andcnmarvailed," 

The iiMtitutioa of tlie order of the Garter, 
ic poem, 

t two poemfl are by Gilbert W^t 
L^). Walpole say a that hi& mather 
her first marriage Lady Langbam, 
iier second marriage thje wife of West, 
rznan. She was the eldest sister of 
I, Lord Cobham, who was flo ofEended 
manning a parson that he Bettled 
te on the issue of his second sister, 
rds Countess Temple. 

Epistle to Viscjount Oomhury. By E, 
^fter»ftrds E»rl Nugent (* D.N.B,'), 
An e|jiatk. 
, All epistle to a lady. 

i saya that Awrelia was 

A. Pitt, aiater of the grottt Lord Chfttlinm, 
notiDur to Queen CaroTiuc, aud privy purs© 
ta. Prineeas of Wales. Died in 1781 . 

is very clever, but eccentric, and 
i great deal- *' Gentle Arma '* wis 
Aibemarle, Lady Anna Lenox. '^ 
jeerlefis dame " was the Biicheat* of 
;, Mary Blount. ** Altho' in ^— 

'" was the " Countess of Cardigan^ 
rdfl Ducheas of Montagu-'* 

An ppiBtle to Mr, Poi>e. 
EpiHtle to Pollio [Lord Chesterfieldl from 

1 ot Howth. 

^ape and R — 's face refer to Lady 
Sliirley and Sarah Cadogan, Duchess 
hmond. " To mock the works of 

alludes to the designer of modem 
Jig. " Poor with al! a H — 1*» store," 

GUbert Heatheote (* D.N.B.*). 

All ode to Wm. Pultney, Esq. --Published 
maly in 1730. 

cfiing stanza, ** Remote from liberty 
ith/' dtCt referring to Nugenfc'a ©duca- 
, a Roman Catholic, and part of the 
I, ** Though Cato liv*d though Tully 
' are proverbial. Gray (* Letters,' 
say St *' Mr. Nugent sure did not write 
1 ode,'* and he was siisxK)cted of paying 
to write it. Wtilpole's comment on 
[t stanza, which relates, to Pulteney 
Deluded with *' shall teU the patriot's 
' is, " Both the poet and the patriot 
. Ode to Lord Lonfldole. 
, Thr«e odw. 

. fJdo to mankind addressed to the Prince, 
production to the Priiiee. 
. Venea to Camilla. 
, Todarina. 
iiee« m stated in Qeni, Mas^, 1780, 

p. 122, to be " a disgrace to this collection " ; 
it was, however, retained in the 1782 edition. 

'J34. An inscription on the tomb to his father and 
2*4-9. Epiffmms. 

All the above are by Nugent. 

340-5(}. The danger of writing verse, hy William 
Whitehead, mq. (*D.N-B.'). 

*' A very good tiling " (Shenstone, * Letters/ 
p- 15). 

2.^1 -3. To the honourable,, - ,„[Charles Townshend^ 
one of his frieodfi at Cambridge]. 

2oA-l. To Mr- Gamtk- 

l257'J*- Nature to Dr, Hoadly, on lita cotnedy of 
'The SuspiciouB HuEii>aiid/ 

2i39-llJ. The youth and the t>hiloHt>i»her, a fable. 

261-il. An ode to a gtsnllcman, on hia pitching a 
tont in hiis g^arden, 

2ti3'd. On a message card in verse, sent by a lady. 

2(i5t>. ThejV- Hfi wni yiioj^, asong.- Abo printed 
in The Mimeum, i. VM, 

The above are also by WTiitehesd. Gray 
(' Letters,' i. 18i) eaj^s : — 

"I like Mr. Whitehead's little poems, I mean 
the ode on a tent, thu verges to Cjarrick, and nar- 
ticularly thoeo to Charles Townshend, better than 
anything I had seen before of him." 

266-9. Ode on a distant prosfieot of Eton ooUege, 
by Mr. Gray ['D.N.B.'), 

270-7"2. Ode [on the aprinp]. 

!*72'4. Ode ou the death of a fflvourite taafe (Horace 
WaljujleV) drowned iu a tub of i;old fishes. 
The last two are also by Gray, Tlies& 
pieces were given to Dodsley by Walpole. 

27'*-9. MonoHv on the death of <^ueen Caroliney 
hy Richiird \veHt. es*t. ('D.N.B.), aoii to the 
cbiineeUor of Ireland. 

It %vaB included in the collection at Walpole'a 
request. Gray C Letters,* ed. Tovey, i- 173> 
aays tliis piece, " in spite of the subject," is 
excellent. Some of the lines in it con- 
tained the germs of Gray's own poetry, 

28Q-8a. A pipe of tobacco in imitation of aix 
sevenil autliors: I. Cil>lx?ir. IL Ambrose Pbilii>8. 
III. Thomson. IV. Young. V. Pope. VL Swift. 
By Isaac Hawkins Browne^ but the sugges- 
tion of the poem was made by (Chancellor) 
John Hoftdlv, and No. II. was written by 
him [Oent. Mag., 1776, p, 165), 

287 9. Otlt to the boil. C. Y. [Charles Yorke]. 

288-91. Frnrn Cieha to Chloe. 

2fH-1. On » tit of the ffout. 

',5K3. Homie, odo xiv, book i., imitated in 1740. 
The last four are alao by Browne. 

■2&4 301 The female ri^ht to litemturD. in a letter 
to a youriff lady fnini Mortsntt; [Mi.^a Pratt, itft*r- 
wards Latll Cam den J. By Thomaa iSuwurd, Canon 
of Uebtieklrl>-N-B.'). 

300. On ShakeHpear'a monument at Stratford 
uiH)n Avmi, 

:m, Wong. 

3U2. ChJBwiok.-The " intent lord " wab Richard 
Boyle, Earl of Burlington. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, .tw & vil fe* 

3(6^. The iudiflFerent, from the Italian of Meta 
The last four are also by Seward. 

306-9. The triumph of indifFerencf^ Ijeiiij? the 
same ode imitated by an unknown Hand.— Thin 
i)oem 18 in The MitJtewnt iii. 30-Xi. 

309-1'* TheShepherd's farewell to his love; wnih' 
the name ode, trausUited by Mr. Roderick. 
This was Richard Roderick, Fellow of 
Magdalene College, Cambridge ('D.N.B.'). 
He was son of Dr. Charles Roderick, Master 
of Magdalene College, and was educated on 
the foundation at Eton School (Horace 
Walpole's notes). 

312-18. Three Riddles. 

318-20. Horace, bk. iv. ode 13 imitated. 

321. Sonnet imitated from the Siianish of Lope>: 
de Vega, 'Menagiana,' torn. iv. p. 176. 
The last five pieces are also by Roderick. 
The Sonnet is reproduced in Nichols's 
' Illustrations of Lit.,' i. 18. 

322-34. Thirteen Sonnets by Thomas Edwards 
[author of * The Canons of Criticism ' ('D.N.B.')]. 
These sonnets, with many others, 45 in all, 
are to be found in the 1765 edition of that 
work. 1. To the Hon. Philip Yorke, the 
second line runs " of Hardwicke's titles and 
of Kent's estate." 2. To John Clerke. 3. 
To Frfmcis IvnoUys. In 1. 6 the name m 
" Harrison's." 4. To Mr. Crusius [probably 
the Rev. Lewis Crusius, D.D., who d. 23 May, 
1775 (' Annual Reg.,' p. 209)1. 6. To John 
Kevett. In I. 13 the place is ** Cliecquers.'* 
7, To Richard Owen Cambridge. 9. To the 
memory of Mrs. M. Paice. 10. To Lord 
Lyttelton. 11. On the death of Miss I. M., 
*.e.. Miss Mason, niece of Edwards. 12. To 
Daniel Wray. 13. To the Right Hon. Mr. 
Onslow. The two nepliews and heirs of 
Edwards were Joseph Paice and Nathaniel 
Mason (Nichols's * Lit. Anecdotes,' ii. 199). 
The two sonnets of Edwards to Wray are 
quoted in Nichols's * Illust. of Lit.,' i. 17. 

The second volume of the 1748 edition 
contains (pp. 305-30) ' An epistle from 
Florence,' ' The Beauties,' and * The Epilogue 
to Tamerlane,' which in the 1766 ed. are in 
vol. iii. 

The poems addressed to Miss Lucy F — 
(vol. ii. pp. 58-66 of the 1766 ed.), to the 
memory of the same lady (pp. 67-78), epi- 
taph on her (p. 79), and the contributions 
from * The Indifferent ' (p. 302) to the end 
of the volume are not, with the following 
exception, in vol. ii. or any other volume of 
the 1748 ed. The poem — *-*i"'' ''^^- 

(See 10 S. vi. 363.) 
It is with the following statemen 
•N.E.D.,' 8.V. 'Land.' that I find 
unable to agree : — 

"Cognate with Old -Celtic •faiuhi. fei 
/aiK/, /am )^, enclosure; Welsh ^a», encluHurc 
ComislL fo-^' ; Breton lanHf heath), \v)m 
F. lantfjey heath, moor. The pre-Teut. *. 
not evidenced in the other Aryan Ian;;?, 
ablaut-variant Vemlh- appears in Old-Slai 

heath, desert, and in M. Sw. //Wa, \ 

fallow land." 

It is not with a theoretical Old-Celtii 

but with a real Idnorif that Holder 

' Altcelt. Sprachschatz * connects tlw 

Uan, thereby bringing the Celtic tei 

relationsliip with lit. planum and Gl 

According to the ' N.E.D.,' Fr. land* 

from Bret, lanne ; but the Frencl 

betrays the origin of the final dental 

is clearly a Teutonic relic of tlie Vh 

power seated at Toulouse. That poi 

left hardly any trace in the Spanish lai 

although its sway lasted in Spain long 

it did in the south of France. It woi 

bably, therefore, be more correct to s. 

Fr. lande is an interruption of a cl 

C!eltic Ian and lanne names rather 

mere derivation of Bret, lanne. Ii 

such way the Irish land is to be ace 

for, even though it should be foun( 

clined " with a dental stem in fai 

Irish. How easily Celtic Ian forms y 

Teutonic influence may be seen frc 

following example (which has the inc 

advantage of bringing the W. ' 

enclosure " idea into line with the . 

use). Treflan is an old word whic 

become obsolete when Owen Pughe 

piled his dictionary. It has now re 

currency through Daniel Owen's ta 

Dreflan,' wherein it is apparently trea 

a diminutive of tref. But that was n 

old meaning, for it was applied to a c 

containing a tref. In Mr. Edward ( 

invaluable annotated transcript of Bro 

Survey of the lordship of Kidwelly ir 

{published as an appendix to the 

Land Commission's Report) I find (p. i 

"There is also within the sayd com' 

iHcennen, wherein is also the Jxiii referred U 

previous mperj certajrne cirouite of Lands 

Strivcland, contayninge the iiarishe of 1 

lyinge betwene the river of Amon and the Lt 

if Gower, and bounded and disjoyned from 

the 1748 ed. The poem entitled 'The '.f Gower, and boimded and disjoyned from 

TXS*^ <t ^^TS'S voY iirVthe'l74l I l:U'^caiJS%?rl3^S^?l'e %&l 
1766 ed. (pp. 30^9) is in vol. ui. of the 1748 ^.^^ ^^ ^^ the phefe rent© goin^ out of y« I 

<5d. (pp. 2r2-16>. W. P. COXJRTNEY. 

(To he continwd.) 

Sir Wa[l]ter Rioe, knight, which he hath 
ye same iMuriahe by diaoento from his f&thor. 

!tii. ra.%m.i NOTES AND QUERIES. 


"- f -^ simply an Angtioizeti fiirrn 
y&, i.e. " Kyiyf**A Treflan," 
.^ . utirely vanished, or at uny 
onJy appears in the fann-uaine Pctt- 
[)tJ tuat of the little ** bede-hou»e " 
i<itrv ■' (if either vs. the origin of 
') f»ft» quite displaced it. Lle'r 
>»ev<T, still remaintt, t^nd |>erliapt> 
((•oidhelic) synonym ruth {rathair, 
rciAi>» W. cittr) c)f that name aur- 
f)ie streaiu-name Cathan. In the 
Hilar names in the neighbour- 
It caeth, ''strait." "narrow," 
tiwi ,• thii» WaungljnwHlh is* given 
kiicaeth C' narrow glen meadow " ), 
ci%rth is never pronounced cdth in 
I, or indeed anywhere else in 
f ar a8 I know. The real fonn. 
i« e\idenced by a farm-name 
c)ut»e by, -wrliich can only mean 
"of" or "on'' the Dtilas. The 
oC Glyncath is now known a« 
or CJwmllwchwT, that river sepa- 
\if farms in question from the Ian 
ribed in the previous paper. 
.1 adjoining Waunglyncath was 
i»l the two or tJjree* *' manors " 
** C'omote of kkennen."" namely, 
(written "' Metlieuuigh " In 
-iii'vey). Mr. Owen ha» ex- 
;.» a>» Myddfai ; but that )>lace \» 
from Llandybie. wherea.s Myd- 
i* still one of the moxt important 
the pariah. lt« nanie. by the way, 
J^o written Myddyfnych ; but as it 
lugh round hill callevi Brj'nmawr, 
to iliiiik that Mai-ddin-fych 
iiponents. It ih admirably ftitu- 
me of the outpostts of the Lan. 
the forms Denbigh and Tenby, 
to everj' one. On the upper 
rn aide of the nan^e Lan '\» 
e%'en a much rarer f i ♦nn of 1 he 
.1, GlvniKrwys. The fonns piga^ 
'* peak«' are found elsewliere ; 
we muHt go from Siluria to 
^Ten^^e» (jtic de jmuifs, &.c). 
If, with it8 liBtin equivalent 
south of the lavdts. Pouy- 
iher\'ieUe, near Luch<tn. not to 
rj'rs *' of the CJnronne, 8eeni 
liar fomift to one bom near 
>iliilaM, and Llwchwrt* "Eye." 
itioned tlie rxiriuus nan^e 
i'eruu'n, which may be 
> ■•' ■ m-t ati likely to be 
or Pie de Durat. 

Latin, pint a^ the 

i«. The nnnnTonH las 

T liiruK Lie Mini it« •x'jgh- 

bourhood — Lasli. ]>tdafi, Gwenlaj«, Maries — 
remind one ine«iHtibly of the Louzon, Lj-s. 
Laslie. &c., of the Central Pyrenees. But 
within a few liours' brisk walk of my Lan 
there is a still more interesting Htream-name, 
for it is unique in VV' ale«. 

Mr. in his * U-ictures on the Geo- 
graphy uf Greece ' speaks (x). 89) of 
*'n >^rou]> of iiaiiiepi, Nedn and Nedon in Me«»enia»^ 
»nd NewtUK in Tliract*. from a nmt. ««*/, which does 
ii](]ieiu- L^)i«ev\l)cre in (ireek, but is \i»ed for a river 
in SanMknt, urid HJgnifi»wi to ' rmir.'" 
Now vnd means a "bellowing" in Welsh^ 
and the corresponding verb tiadr/, to bellow 
or roar, is also in use ; while Neste is a 
generic name for mountain streams in the 
Central Pyrenees, with wpecitic application* 
in particular localities. It ifi curious tliat 
cverj so far back an thirty yeais ago an 
eminent Oxford lecturer should have ignored 
not only the Pyrenees, but even Glamorgan- 
shire, 'it is to the river Nedd (prono\mced 
to rune with "bathe"), in English Neath, 
that 1 refer. A river-name in Welsh is 
feminine, and if Nedd had a uioweuline form 
it would \»i Nudd (pronounecHl to rime 
with "breathe"). Tltat form, too. is^ 
found in Welsh, but it means " thick 
wliite mist." not quite synonjnnoufl. with 
i\\v connnon word niwl ("fog"). Prof. 
Khys in his ' Celt. M>^h.' identifies Nudd 
with Lludd, with the Irish Nua<la Argetlam 
("N. of tlie Silver Hand"), and with the 
Noden.s, Nodons, t>r Nudens, the remains of 
wJiose ten^ple have been found at Lydneyr 
" on the western bank of the Severn, in the 
territoiy of the ancient Silures." He ignores 
the W. common noun nudd and the PjTenean 
Pic de Nc^'thou. the highest point in the 
l^renees, and in tlie immediate neighbour- 
hood of the other places mentioned in tins 
paper. 1 am aware that the inscription 
supi^owed to attest tlie existence of the god 
dwelling on " I'anticjue 01>^npe du dieu 
Nethoi>i" as M. A. Joamie puts it in the first * 
edition of his excellent ' Itinerairo de»l 
Pyr^nt'cs.' ha« been proved not to do so ; 
taut in the teeth of his own Silurian Nodens» 
1 quite fail to see how a mistaken reading 
on an inscribed stone could have led Mr. 
Rhys to disbeUeve the godshiu of tlio 
Pvrenean Nethon. The salient phenomena 
of tlie Pic de N^thou are the violent squalla-i 
of w^ind and the masses of white mist that 
they whirl around it. Everj'thing that 1 
have read on tliis subject leads me to tlie 
belief that the Silures migrated from the 
Spanish slc»]>e8 of the Pyrenees in the stjcond 
ct^ntiirv' B.C.. travelling along the moro 
central jjarts until they reached the cowv- 


NOTES AND QUERIES, f lo s. vii. rn. 2, 

modious harbourage at the north-weBtem 
extremity of the Feninsula. The river Sil 
possibly still retains their name, and these 
momitaineers were doubtless piloted to the 
opposite shores of Britain by the seafaring 
.^abrians, who would tell them that they 
must now, owing to the Belgic settlements 
of the south-eastern parts of the island, 
sail further to the west than previous Penin- 
sular emigrants, and so they first touched 
land in the Scilly Islands, which still bear 
their name, just as, I would suggest, Annette 
Head does that of Nethon (or Aneto). 

" In a westerly direction the rapid tides surge 
And eddy amouK imiunierable rooks, objects pic- 
turesque and incasing to tourists wafted round 
them by a summer breeze, but as terrible when 
beheld white with foam and cataracts of raging 
water from the deck of some luckless vessel driving 
towards the land."—' Murray's Handbook to Devon 
and Cornwall,' p. 475. 

I have already instanced the form pych. 
The two rocky eminences in Glamorganshire 
called Pen Pych and Pen Hydd ("Stag 
Head ") have caused much controversy 
among local antiquaries. I need say no 
more about the former, but the latter may 
possibly have been Pen Nudd (Nudd^s 

While putting these notes together, I have 
seen — ^but only by a mere ^ance, unfor- 
tunately — an interesting paper in the 
ArchoBologia Cainhrensia on some prehistoric 
hearths found lately in South Wales. Two of 
these have been discovered close to Llwchwr's 
*• Eye," two others on the farm of Gelli- 
Shiffor, and one at Gambica. The first of 
these spots is on the north-eastern edge of 
my Lan, the second on the southern edge 
of it, and the third on the north-western 
edge. I venture to submit that they are 
** prehistoric " in a quaUfied sense only — 
that they are, in fact, parts (inhabited out- 
posts, sa^) in a complete system of defence 
of a Celtic lan or oppidum, of which we have 
a glimpse in Caesar, Tacitus, and Strabo. 
One detail given by the last-named author 
is that they " hut themselves " (icaAvjtfo- 
Trocoyi/Tat) therein, which may refer either 
to such structures as have been traced in 
the so-called ** prehistoric hearths," or to 
such earth-pits as Leland says were to be 
found at the foot of the " Blake Moimtayne," 

" made with Hand, large lyke a Bowie at the Heade, 
and narrow in the Botom, overgrowen in the Swart 
with fine Graso, and l)e scatterd here and there 
about the Quarters where the Heade of Kennen 
River is that cummythe by Carre Kennen. And 
sunie of these will reoey ve a Hunderth Men, sura 
2 Hundorethe." 

I have never seen these pits, but I have 

always understood that they wme 
found near the " Trap " pass of what ] 
called "my Lan" in this paper. ] 
before passing on, that the river 
Llwchwr bears, I venture to suggest, 
of the Pyrenean god Lixon (as Luchon 

Prof. Rhys, in dealing with J 
Argetldm, says that he had lost his a 
a battle. It is a well-known fact 
hundreds of the brav^t heroes of 
Christian Spain had their right hand 
off by the Romans. The very name < 
Lusitanian hero Viriathus is foimd in 
Welsh pedigrees in the parallel 
Gwriad. That name and the exploi 
him who bore it might well have 
carried to their South Walian setUe 
by the emigrant Silures, there to give 
in process of time to the tales of the rayl 
Arthur cmd his Table Round. In tha< 
Arthur's " twelve great battles " ma 
simply an echo of those of Viriathus 
the real cradle of the Arthurian legendi 
have been on the same chivalric grou 
that of Roland and his paladins and tl 
the Cid. 

One word in conclusion as to my atl 
towards Celtic mythology. I have 
been able to appreciate the " solar va 
theory or any general formula of that 
The Celts in their migrations carried 
I behefs and superstitions with them, 
sometimes perhaps, amid fresh wood 
pastures new, they forgot them. Bui 
these gods had a way of reclaimin 
lapsed allegiance of their wliUom de'^ 
may be illiistrated by a trivial incident 
once happened to myself. One 1 
spring morning some yeeurs ago I was wi 
down Bond Street at a good pace, 
passing a fishmonger's shop, I cast em a 
ing but casual glance at the salmon and 
that adorned the tradesman's deftl; 
ranged slab. Suddenly a subtle 
assailed my nostrils, instantaneously 
vSMled the mysterious avenues of mei 
and brought up before my mental ey 
picture of a little boy who had been wo 
busily for over an hour at divertiI^ 
course of a babbling brook, and who 
tossing out troutlets from the drii 
pools on to the grassy margin odorif 
with meadowsweet. I had grassed i 
a trout in many different circumsti 
since that far-off time, but on© 
easily realize that such a vivid 
minder would have been a very impec 
" call " to a forgetful worshipper Iron 
long-neglected mountain deity or 
goddess of a long-left early home. 8ii 

^n. Fn. 2, 19(17.] NOTES AND QUERIES, 


as that could only affect, of coune, 
lal emigrant, but it might be efEeotive 
ing an old belief, with its old namee, 
Jiensoil. J. P. Owen. 

x>NiAKA. — ^It is perhaps worth while 
ng certain parallels to, if not actual 
k of, the following passages in Milton. 
Be I know, they have not been noticed 
• Paradise Lost,* vi. 238 : — 

Each on himself relied, 
Afl only in his arm the moment lay 
Of v-iotory. 

re Xenophon, 'Hell,- ii. 4, 16: wrto XPV 
ovios €icaoTOs Tts caifT^ <rvv€UT€Tat tt}s 
tTtwraTos iSv. 
adise Lost,* vi. 769 : — 

wentj thousand— I their number heard— 
>t8 of God. 

igel explains that he knew the exact 
r of the heavenly host, just as the 
ger explains that he knew the exact 
' of the Persian ships at Salamis, 
us, * Persae,* 340 :— 
5«, KoX yap olSa, x^^(a$ /mv rjv, K.r.k. 
adise Lost,' xi. 399 : — 

Mnnjbaza and Quiloa and Melind, 
And Sofala, thought Oi>hir. 

most of the place-nam^ in this 
I catalogue occur in Camoens, three 
I above-quoted occur in one line 
Mis,* i. 64) :— 

Quiloa, de Mombasa e de Sofala. 
Lilton know of Camoens's work ? 
3S does not identify Ophir with 

but in X. 124 he mentions the belief 
ns imaginaram") that Ophir was 
d in the Golden Chersonese, a place 
sntioned in this pasas^ of Milton. 
Paradise Regained,* iv. 458, storms 
invulsions of nature are said to be 

as inconsiderable 
larmless, if not wholesome, as a sneeze 
un*8 less universe. 

srm of this idea is to be found in 
ius, vi. 648 e< aqq., where the poet, 
laving described veuious natural dis- 
ces, such as earthquakes, volcanoes, 

iuis cnim nostrum miratur, si quis in artus 

it oalido febrim fervore courtam 

lium qaem\ns roorbi per membra dolorem ? 

C. W. Bbodbibb. 
BOE m. AND "What.** (See 10 S. 
\.) — ^My grandfather, who was born 
I and died in 1843, lived at Staines 
rovemlMr, 1799, to April, 1801. One 

day when walking near Windsor he saw a 
stout elderly gentleman on horseback. As 
he rode carelessly, the horse stumbled, and 
the rider was on the point of falling, when 
my grandfather ran to his assistance, and 
helped him to recover his seat. The gentle- 
man then said : " Thank you, thank you, 
thank you ! Who are you, who are you, 
who are you ? " But mv grandfather had 
barely time to recognize that it was the king 
before he rode away, and he heard no more 
of it. W. C. B. 

Habib Ullah : its Pbonunciation. — 
In M.A.P. for 19 January there are some 
amusing lines commencing as follows : — 

Hail ! Happy Habib Ullah. 
With your friend the crazy Mullah— 
That reverend gent of " cullah." 
That spiritual Peer. 

One must not be too critical with humorous 
verse, but there are many readers who like 
to know the correct pronunciation of fuiy 
name figuring prominently in the j)apers, 
so I venture to say that the above gives 
quite a wrong idea of the scansion of the 
name Habib Ullah. The stress should fall 
upon the last syllable of each of its two 
elements. Habib rimes with glebe or grebe ; 
UUah rimes with Shah. The meaning of 
the name is " Beloved of God." 

Jas. Platt, Jim. 

LrNK WITH Charles L's Execution. — 
I append an extract from The Derby Daily 
Telegraph of 17 January, which may be 
worthy of record in the always interesting 
pages of * N. & Q.* :— 

" An iuterosting Derbyshire ' Link with the i>ast ' 
is recalled by Mr. J. H. iSharploy, of Hatfield 
Colleee, Doncaster, in a letter to Thf Shejfi*'/(/ Tele- 
graph. He says :— ' In 1872, when a boy, staying at 
Hulland Ward, Derbyshire, I called on an old lady, 
Elizabeth Durose, then 97, widow of a farmer, who 
told me that her grandmother, when a girl, had 
known a man— a distant relative — who had wit- 
nessed the execution of Charles I. The old lady 
then took out of a comer cupboard an old prayer- 
book, bound in black leather, which was, I fancy, 
of the time of Queen Anne, for I remember it had a 
frontispiece picturinjj a parson in gown and Iwinds, 
and wearing a long wig, saying jjrayers in a ' three- 
decker.' Oi>ening it at the form of service for the 
30th January, she showed me a i)ioee of coarse 
linen, of the colour of a dead leaf, which she said 
was a portion of a handkerchief which had been 
dii)ped in the King's blood, and wan given to her 
grandmother by the above eye-witness. When it 
hrst passed into her possession it was nearly entire, 
hut her children had played with it, and this was 
all that she had managed to preserve.' " 

Hulland Ward is a picturesque village 
five miles from Ashbourne. 

Mabmaduke E. BucvL^i^. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. fkiu i; mt. 

W>: muBt request oorrespondents desiring in- 
formation on funily matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their qawies, 
in order that ansvers may be sent to them direct. 

" I»opjoY." — ^In * Sport and Travel,' by 
a. H. Kingsley (ed. 1900), 472 (dated 1853), 
I find ** his stream in which he himself was 
wont to popjoy in a very aboriginal manner." 
And T. Hughes, ' Tom Brown,' chap, ii., 
hat* " After a whole afternoon's popjoying 
they caught three or four small coarse fish." 
What is this verb popjoy f Is it school slang 
or local dialect ? how is it made up ? and 
wliat does it exactly mean ? 



'• PoRTOBELLO." — ^What 18 this game, and 
whence the name ? John Howard, * State 
of the Prisons in England and Wales ' (1780), 
p. 200, has :— 

"At my first visit [to the King's Bench Prison] 
there was a wine-club and a beer-dub ; and one can 
Hcarcely ever enter the walls without seeing ]iarties 
at Hkittlcs, inissisippi, portobdh, tennis, fives, &c." 

Also (ed. 1792) p. 13 :— 

"(iamint; in various forms is very frequent; 
cards, dice, skittles, missisiiipi and "porloltdlo, 
billiards, fives, tenuis, &o." 

liiforniation will oblige. 

J. A. H. Murray. 

* Con.ECTiON OF Thoughts,' 1707. — This 
early collection of poeticed quotations is 
anonymous. Can any one supply the com- 
piler's name t Its full title is as follows : 
^* A Collection of the Most Natural and 
Sublime Thoughts, viz.. Allusions, Similes, 
Descriptions, and Characters of Persons 
and Things, that are in the best English 
T'oets. London, printed by S. Buckley, 
1707.' 8vo, 482 pages, followed by * A Uic- 
tiouarv of Rhymes,' pp. viii, 36. 

C. W. S. 

Sir Thomas Malory. — In 1469 Thomas 
Glcpg, of Gay ton, was granted by Ed- 
ward IV. a general pardon for all offences 
committed by him in siding with the house 
of York. The pardon, \^^ch is enrolled 
on tlio Recognizance Rolls of Chester (No. 141, 
m. 9, 2), is of great length. Towards the end 
a proviso is inserted that it shall not extend 
to Humphry Nevyle, miles; "Thomas Mai arie, 
miles " ; Robert Marcliall, late of Culneham, 
Oxon, Esq. ; Hugo Mulle, late of London ; 
Gervase Clifton ; Wm. Verdon, late of Lon- 
don. •* skryvener," and various Welshmen; or 
to any i)erson by authority of any Parliament 

attainted for high treason, &c. ; or to th* 
Mayor and Company of the Staple of Calaw; 
and many others. Is this not Sir ThomM. 
Malor>' of ' Morte D' Arthur ' f aine t Tl» 
period coincides, and the juxtaposition "wHk 
Welshmen is significant. 1 cwmot fm, 
however, that he was ever concerned wnfc 
the Wars of the Roses. R. S.-B. 

[Would a knight be described as "miles'*? Then 
M'ore several families of the name of Malory ; 
the ' D.N.B.'] 

Rev. R. Grant, died 1826.— Can uij 
reader of ' N. & Q.' give me informal 
concerning the Rev. R. Grant ? He ^ 
born in 1744, usher of Westminster Sohil 
1764-72, vicar of Blackbourton 1771, Wr~ 
nington 1772, and Stanste-ad Mountfifl 
1782, where he died in 1826. I should 
glad to know anything concerning eitM 
himself or his descendants. L. E. T. 

Stedcombe or Studcombe House, 
AxMOUTH. — This house figures in the gni 
Civil War, Who was the original owMti 
it ? A. K. Baylit. 

St. Margaret's, Malvern. 

Brett, Baronet, killed 1644, — Whoi* 
the above ? A. R. BayleT. 

Bible containing Genealogy. 
any of your readers tell me of the prsM 
whereabouts of a Bible printed in blsr 
letter in 1613, containing the genealogyf 
the London and Hewit(?) families? T 
Bible was last seen at Honiton, in Devd 
shire, many years ago. 

Percy E. Xewbebry. 

40, Bedfortl Street, Liver|K)ol. 

Pictures at Teddinoton. — ^In the reli 
ence room of the Carnegie Free Libraiy 
Teddington have been placed eight i^ 
gorical life-size paintings which have jl 
been restored and removed here from 
walls of Elmfield House, one of the ol 
buildings in the parish, where they 1 
remained imobserved for years. The -*** 
ings bear names as follows : Silvia L -^ 
Silvia Edifica(?), Silvia Europea, 8ih 
Eritrea, Silvia Agrippina, Silvia Peni 
Silvia Frigia, and Silvia Tiburtina. C 
any one tell to what personages these subje 
refer ? The name of the painter is I 
visible on any of the portraits, but the opir"" 
expressed by most of the connoisseurs ' 
have seen them is that they are the t 
of a Dutch or Flemisli master. By w 
they were placed in Elmfield House is 
known ; but it is believed that they ^ 
there before Hersen, the Russian xm 



ok up his residence tliere many 

whilst an exile in England. The 

te richly draped* and eacli in 

pvith jewels in gold ornaments — 

^ with the addition of a garland of 

the head, as well as around the 

lillion picture in the comer, repre- 

f Nativity and otiter episodes in 

I death of Cluist. 

Br. Le Wett. 

RGH Stage : BLAira : Glover.— 
enealogical partiotdars of the 
between families of Glover and 
Dibdin's * Annals of the Edin- 
ge ' it is stated that John Bland. 
t-atre Royal, was an ancestor of 
^la%er, the painter, whose father 
iind Glover, son of the famous 
fTover, and proprietor of Prince's 
^ilasgow, who died hi 186CI. John 
of an old Irish race, and before 
Hie stage was a cornet of dragoons, 
colours of his coq»8 at Dettingeu, 
[ prif^oner at Fonterioy, and served 
j^Jy under Col. (afterwards Genera!) 
in rejiressing the Jacobite ming 
le waa for many yearH treasurer 
beatre Royal. Edinburgh. Mrs. 
luphter niaiTied a John Bland, an 
I both were at the Glympic, with 
Fcstris, about 1826. John Bland, 
t.E. treasurer, died in I80fi. The 
I mitst anxious to learn ail about hia 

■ni*. J. F. Fl'LLEB. 

; CJmjnl>en», Ihibliti, 
f jclc» uii John BLmtl nt « S. xii. "317, 
cittUy tluti l.v Mil W.J. Lawrkm'k 

<!> M\uiiMiAVM. — Gibbon savH : 
lAntodiniiN obliged tlio vaiujuishMl 
■ip Miirc-oniftitni tn ^utittly him witli a 
1 ttxjoi«*, which lie -em into Itritaiii." 
^ known «a to where these troom 

or is there any account of the 

iitor aceountft of early Britain? 

1 to what ]>art of Spain a large 
Ihe tribr went when driven from 
t>{ the Danube ? L. 1). 

|t>f t>iblx)n'H niithorities will be found 

I edition of the gicAt hlnku^.l 

SK." — In tht' '*■ 1 v Car- 
Public Record ' . rental 
[Jt., 1444. of huitis Ht r remlev 
On If. 29 are several instances 

owe fCu«tuiHartiwJ leynet ununi 
" |ilp»t«im torrv iiative imAni 

piirufBBturain »pud Brad more et uruim Butioiam 
IiiV) ingraasa habendo in la lyecroft. 

" Ric&rduB Eyre atte Mermhe tenet uinim mesiia- 
gium et unam virKatam terre......uiiuin Croftmn 

vocHtuiu 8<iuthecrort« et Axelane xiiniiii Buticiuni 
ibidem...... Et reddit inde de annuo Redditxi cvuii 

certo Tftllagio et j Ste<lnne!<t!. x. s. xj. d. (|. 

*'WillelniU8 at Mershe reddit,.....ouin certo 

Talla^ino et Stedanec[)oJ od iiijor terminoa UBualea 
ix. 8. viij. d. q." 

1 shall be glad to know the meaning of 
the English " stedaneae " (Latinized " sted- 
anec[imn ?] " ), Q. V. 

Lame Doo Poem. — Can any reader of 
' N. & Q."" .supply the name of the author and 
the remaining verses of this poem t It 
begins : — 

A long day's journey there lay before ; 
1 cnisaefl the nie»dt)W at breaking morn : 
I BOW the rond by hill nnd ni4x>r; 
Beyond the lulls wuh my dititarit Iwiirne. 


Sm Cosmo Gordon, B\tion Biographer. 
—In 1824 Knight &. Lacey published an 
octavo pamphlet (80 pp.) entitled "Life 
and Geniite of Lord Byron, by Sir Cosmo 
Gordon." Who wa?* this person ? I can 
find no '* Sir " Cdsmo of the period, either 
a.s knight or baronet. The pamphlet con- 
tains many bhunders^ such as the statement 
that B>Ton w&a born in Aberdeenshire. 

J. M. Bt7I,1.0CH. 

118, Pall Mall, S.\V. 

Sonnets by Alfred and Fredebick 
Tenn\'son. — ' Friendship's Offering ' for 
1832 (Smith, Elder & Co.) contains two 
aomiets (one by Alfred and the other by 
Frederick Tennyson) wluch 1 do not re- 
member to have seen before. The difference 
l>otween the styles of the tM'o brothers as 
exemplified in these two compositions is 
remarkable. Alfred's sonnet, which begins 

Me my own Fate to lastiug sorrow dnonieth, 
reminds one of the * Ode to Claribel,' and is 
dull, pretentious, and insincere. Frederick's 
sonnet, on the other hand, addressed to 
Nature, is joyous, bird -like, and fidJ of the 
zest of life, and winds up 

Sure thou art everlaatinj:, and in thco 

There is a jmrt of our etoniity. 

Have these poems been reprinted ? 

John Hebb. 

Pahry and Halley Families. — The \viU 

of Sybilla Halley, widow of Edmund Halley, 
iun., surgeon R.N. (found recently by Air. 
Ralph J. Beevor. of St. Albans), is dated 
1 May, 1771 : proved 13 Nov.. 1772 (P.C.C., 
Register Taverner, folio 406) ; and gives 
bequests to good friocid Cathorme B^a\^xv\o>tw\*« 


NOTES AND QUERIES. , [lo s. vii. feb. % vm. 

rife of John Beaamont, lighterman, of 
Sast Greenwich ; and to the testator's two 
;randdaughter8 Sybilla Pany and Sarah 
>arry (the latter then under age). This 
Locument proves the (then) existence of 
lescendants of Dr. E. HaUey (1656-1742), 
md supports the theory printed at 9 S. xi. 
L64. ^billa Halle^'s will is made as of 
Bast Greenwich, Kent. Can any reader 
supply partioulars of the Parry descendants, 
i any known ? Eugene F. McPike. 
1, P«rk Row, Chicago, U.S. 

John Custis. — Did the American family 
3f Custis migrate from Nottinghamshire 
sr the north part of Lincolnshire, somewhere 
in the neighbourhood of Gainsborough ? 
[ possess a copy of *' Lieut.-Colonel J. 
Lilbum Tryed and Cast ; or, His Case and 
Draft discovered .... Published by Authority. 
London, Printed by M. Sinmions in Alders- 
sate-street, 1653." It contains on a fiy- 
i&Bii at the beginning three signatures of a 
John Custis, written in a good and clear 
hand, which I have no doubt is that of its 
first owner. It may not be straying away 
from the subject to note that the above- 
mentioned work contains references to John 
Lilbume's riotous doings in the Isle of 
Axholme. The volume belonged to a 
member of an old yeoman family whose 
ancestors may very possibly have taken 
part in the Isle of Axholme disturbances. 
Edwabd Peacock. 

Jane Barnard, the younger of Sir JcUs 
daughters, was married to the Hon. Hanzy 
Temple (d. 1740), and thus was grandmotbtf 
of Henry John Temple, third ViboouiiI 
Palmerston, the Prime Minister. 


Adrian Gilbert, of Wilton, Wilts, Esq. 
Consistory of Sarum. Inv. and account 
3 June, 1628. Was he related to Sir 
Humphrey Gilbert ? E. Aijjwgbth. 

Laverstock Vicarage, Salisbury. 

Healing Sprinqs plowing towasds 
THE South. — ^It is a prevalent Welsh sup* 
stition that every sjpring with healing pw- ^ 
perties must have its outlet towards t» . 
south. See * By-Gones,* 1893-4, pp. 2^] 
258. Is this beUef known in England, j 
Scotland, Ireland, and Brittany or oth* 
parts of France ? 

The idea that holy wells should be visitw 
at midsimimer, which seems to be an alliw 

superstition, is widely spread. 

I. G. 



(10 S. vii. 47.) 

As Dr. Murray says, the Act of 179fc 

cited by 'The Encyclopaedia Britannic* 

in 1838, authorizes the establishment tf 

'* seven several public offices," and nowhaP 

Wiokentree House, Kirton-in-Lindsey. 

speaks of them as police offices. As tifl 

._ j^-_^ statute also refers to "the public office iJ 

on B. Yonge's translation of Montemayor's 
* Diana.' Yonge was at the Middle Temple, 
and dedicated an earUer work to Sir Wilham 

Hatton. Can any one inform me whether 
the Lady Hatton who was Bacon's coiisin, 
and whom he wanted to marry was the 
widow of this Sir William ? If not, what was 
the relationship ? Ambrose T. Peyton. 
47, Connaught Street, W. 

'Lawyers in Love.* — ^I should be glad 
to hear where I could obtain the book 
* Lawyers in Love ; or. Passages from the 
Life of a Chancery Barrister.' The author 
is unknown to me. D. B. 

Sir John Barnard's Descendants. — 
Sir John Barnard, Kt., the worthy and 
eminent Lord Mayor of London in 1737-8 
(d. 1764), left one son, John (d. c. 1784), 
known as a collector of drawings of the old 
masters, the sale catalogue of which is in the 
British Museum. Was this family further 
extended ? 

statute also refers to "the public 
Bow Street," it would appear that the ifl 
tention was to extend the term '*publii 
office," which was already well known i 
connexion with the Bow Street Office, to th 
now estabUshmenta. But this intentifli 
either never took effect or was soon departe 
from, as Dr. Murray shows. I liave ni 
up to the present been able to asoertai 
whether there was any statutory authortt 
for using *' police office " instead of '* pub* 
office," or whether this was merely popaU 
Unfortunately, no general index to U 
repealed statutes of this period is publishBl 
At any rate, by 1822 the Legislature reooj 
nized the custom, since the 3 Geo. IV. c I 
speaks of " police offices " and " the pubi 
office in Bow Street." This, it will be noto 
is the same phraseology as that used by ti 
writer of the article in ' The Encyclopaa 
Britannica' in 1838. Subsequent Ao 
down to 1839 also use these terms ; ai^ 
this latter year I think we can definiM 
fix the introduction of " police coort*" i 

IviL Fia. 2. m.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


'-- >s London is concenied. The 

Police CoiirU Act. 1839 

fV** » ' 71) — which* together wiili the 

Police Act of the same year, 

the police ajad magistracy of 

enacts in section 1 that' 

Jt\ jKilice court* now e-^itflblish^d under 
|0f the i>iiMic oltiee in Bow Street ajjd 
^fllws in the mrishes ot [euumcratiuR 
I V f'on tinned.' 

remainder of the Act and in later 
' police court " is regularly \ised. 

F. VV. Read. 

bo^ild liko to point out that 1 gave a 
tiou for " pohne court " at 10 S, vi. 
'^ ^ The Liverpool Jo-nmal of 1 Feb., 
A. H. Abkxe. 

following reference to statutes may 
No doubt in each case the exprea- 
in a statute for iJie first time was in 
common use a few years before. 
ind any Act establishing the Bow 
ice» nor can 1 beat Mr, Akkle's 
^ , _ 1834 far " police court," whicli Dr. 
Bdbiat does not seem to Itave noticed. It 
nD be aeen that *' police ofHce " appears 
boot 18i.»0, " police constables " about 
18S1, " police magistrates " about 1825, and 
*polico men'* about 1829; while ''police 
Swrt * ' dot.»s not seem to ap j)ear in a statute 
Ui) I83U. WTien did " police " itself 

IW. 32 Geo. m. c, 53 provides for the 
uent of seven '* publiek offices" 
• th« parishes of St. Margaret, West- 
tit. Jarae«, Westminister ; St. 
C'lerkenwell ; St. Leonard, Shore- 
St, Mary, Whitechaiwl ; St. Paul, 
dwell ; and St. Margaret's Hill, Bouth- 
liencefortli no fee*i Uj bv taken, 
at them, by any justice. This 
Ki was not to extend to "a certain 
wttliin the Liberty of We-at- 
vri 08 The Publiek Office in 

3f» •& 40 Oeo. m. o. 87 established 

Bves Police Offic*," a public office 

nture of the several offices com- 

Urd F*olic« Offices," Inntituted under 

of 1792. Ccjnstables are not vet 

p< ' but "Thames Poiice 

Iror i 'pointed. 

4-; « " ' f. 76 refers to ** the 

. ' '^'* . ...^M^.tjed the 
of Dull ." with 

trato of ;.,. i ^uul " a 

af the I'oliee," with six public 

1811. 61 Geo. HI. c. 119 refers to '^ the 
Chief Magistrate of the Public Office in 
Bow Street" and his officers and " patrole." 

1813. 53 Geo. HL c. 72. whereby a sti- 
pendiary magistrate for Manchester and 
Salford was appointed, refers to the ad- 
ministration of '■ the police." 

1814. 64 Geo. HI. c. 131, which appointed 
superintending magistrates in Ireland. &c., 
speaks of the insufficiency of " the ordinorj*' 

1S21. In 1 & 2 Geo. IV. o. 1 18 the seven 
pubUc offices established in 11^2 are so 
called in the margin of the Act, but are 
called '* police ortict»s " in the text. A 
pohce office at St. Maiylebone is substituted 
for that at Shadwell. The Bow Street 
Public Office is still so called. Thames ■ 
'* police constables " are mentioned. 

1824. 6 Geo. IV. c. 102 refers to *' con- 
stables and iveace officers." 

1826. 6 Geo. rV, c, 21 mentions in th© 
margin '* police magistrates." 

1829. 10 Geo. IV. c. 44 established a 
new " police office " for the metropolis, with 
a " metropolitan j)olice district," a " police 
force," and a " pohce rat^" and '* police men*' 
ore now referred to. 

10 Geo. IV. c. 45 placed the horse and foot 
patrol of the public office at Bow Street 
undt'r the new police office. 

1836. 6 Will. IV. c. 13 consolidated the 
laws of the " constabulary force" in Ireland. 

1839. 2 & 3 Vict. c. 47 speaks of magis- 
trates sitting at any " police coiut " Ln the 
Metropoliteui Police District. Persons in 
custody were to be taken to the nearest 
" station house " by the constables whilst 
the police courts are shut. 

2 & 3 Vict, c. 71 deals witli '' the several 
police courts now establislied under the names 
of the public office in Bow Street and the 
police offices " elsewhere. R. S. B. 

According to Grantee ' Sketches in London,' 
puVdished, as states the B.M. Catalogue, in 

" it is at luast a cf^ntury h'woc the Bow Strt'pt PoUco 
Otfioc WAS originally t'KtaWli.'ihed fur tht' iiurjMise of 
adnnnistcnnK justice. Until IT^^J, huwever. it was 
on ft very different f(X)tinK from wluit it hua lx;en 
.since. Previous to that time, it war not ofitfthUKlted 
hy Act of Parliftment. Init wa.s hiiniily an ottice used 
by the county inji^iMlrat4.'H."~P|t. l!)3-4. 

In the same year that he died, 1754, 
Henry Fielding, the Bow Street magistrate 
and novelist, in his ' Journal of a Voyage 
to Lisbon," notes that a predecessor oi his 
"■ used to boost that lie made one thousand 
pounds a year in his offur " (Cimningliam's 
London,' 8.v. Bow St met), so that it was «,\. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vil feb. % mj. 

all events, in that year, still a private office 
of the magistrate. Grant says that in 1792 

"seven police offices were established by Act of 
Parliament in different i^rts of the metroitoUs. 
To each of these offices three magistrates were 
Hiiiwinted, at a salary, resiteotively, of 4SXS. per 

So that it was, no doubt, in 1792 that the 
Heats of the London magistracy fu^t became 
known as public police offices. 

The Binningham '* public office " for the 
county magistrates was, according to James 
A. Sharp's ' Gazetteer,' not estabhshed until 
1806. See also Black's * Guide to Warwick- 
shire,' 1879, pp. 21-2. 

So late as 1857, J. Ewin^ Ritchie, in liis 
' Night Side of London,' still speaks of the 
Thames polkc office (p. 11) ; but in the same 
little work there is a chapter headed * The 
Police Court * (p. 200), and on p. 206 it is 
said of a prosecutor, "* As Phil. Bird is in 
court," &c. J. HoLDEN MacMichael. 

Deene, Tooting Beo Road, Streatham, 8. W. 

The following is to be found in Stark's 
'Picture of Edinburgh,' third ed., 1823, 
p. 152:— 

"The old system of police hanng been found 
insufficient, an application was made to Parliament, 
in 18Q5, for a police bill for the city. This bill 
received the sanction of the L^slatiire, and was 
liegiin to be acted upon, and a police court oi)ened 
in rklinburgh. on the 15th of July, 1805. By this 
Statute a Court of Police was established, under 
the Hui)ei-intendence of a ijerson with the title of 
Judge of Police." 

Tliis quotation may perhaps be of use in 
reply to the query (10 S. vi. 369) as to when 
the name " police court " was first intro- 
duced, and whether it was by statute. 

W. S. 

Brassks at the Bodleian (10 S. vii. 42). 
— The records of the Library and the 
memories of its staff afford no evidence that 
the rose and the mutilated inscription ever 
were in the Bodleian. Mr. Andrews's 
unnamed authority (of 1897) is only quoted 
EH saying that he was able to find the rose 
on inquiry- at Oxford in 1864. Haines is 
certainly explicit — yet things have been 
Htated in print to be at the Bodleian which 
were all the time in other collections. If we 
ever had these two brasses, they were 
apparently either stolen or else lent for 
rubbing to some antiquary who fail^ to 
return them. In either case the loss would 
antedate the twenty-four years or so for 
which my own memory serves and my own 
responsibility holds good. They are cer- 
tainly not hidden, or out of place, anywhere 

in our premises, and I investigated the mattei 
thoroughly many years ago. 

E. W. B. NiCHOiAON. 
Bodleian Library, Oxford. 

Bidding Prayer (10 S. vi. 448 ; vii. 32 
70). — " Ye shall pray for " is the form whicl 
I used, and have heard used by others. 

Oxford University Preacher. 

An interesting book on tliis subject i 
* Forms of Bidding Prayer,' Oxford, Jolu 
Henry Parker, 1840. The editor, H. O. C 
(Coxe ?), says, in the preface : — 

"Much care has been taken to consult sucl 
works as were considered Ukely to illustrate eithe 
the early or later history of the forms in ([uestion 
such as, on the one hand, are Bingham, Si>arroT» 
Le Strange, Milliard, &c. j on the other. Card 
Bona, Durand. Martene, Ferrerino, Ussher, witl 
other liturgical writers of authority." 

J. DE Berniere Smith. 

"The Old Highlander" (10 S. vii. 47) 
— The following is from Tfie Daily Graphic o 
19 January : — 

'* Tottenham Court Road's Oldest iNHABFTAin 
—The celebrated statue of the Highlander, whid 
for over a hundred years has mounted guard over i 
tobacconist's shon in Tottenham Court Road, i 
not, after all, to leave the thoroughfare which b 
has helped to make famous. Wide publicity i»» 
recently given to the fact that the shop beside whid 
the figure stood was to be demolishea imd that^ 
Highuinder was therefore for sale. So many oiBfer 
were made to the owner of the statue that biddinj 
ran into c|uite extraordinary fiptres. The old Scot 
future is, however, (juite decided now, as he ha 
Ixsen secured by Messrs. Catesby and Sons, and wil 
henceforth be seeii at their ' Linoland ' in Tott«i 
ham Court Road, not many yards from his ok 

A picture of ' The Old Highlander ' accom 
panies the letterpress. It is a pity th« 
the fi^e should be taken to a shop wliicl 
deals in furniture and linoleum, not tobacc< 
and snuff. Robert Pierpoint. 

In the High Street of Cheltenham, outside 
the shop of Mr. Wright, tobacconist, then 
is a wooden figure of a tall Highlander, u 
full costume. I do not know how long J 
has been there, but I remember it well mow 
than fifty years ago, when I was a boy 9i 
school, and it looks ex€M5tly the scune nof 
as it did then. C. S. J. 

Speaking of the tobacconist's sign of « 
Highlander, T. O. H. sees the features of < 
Lowlander in the fact of these effigies beinj 
clean shaved ; but with the knowledg 
that, certainly as late as up to the fiftw 
all, high or low, shaved, nis assumptki 
cannot be correct. For pictorial evidene 
see portraits of Highlanders in Looi 

lis. va roL % IW7.J NOTES AND QUERIES. 

.mj - mri^t fntprtajiiiiijf 'Journal o\ a 

it Britain,' vol. i., 1817. drawn 

hy liim. A HighlantloT. Low- 

ritr, or indfftl any but a Jew at tiie date 

r armtf - lakitijE; rppresentations were 

ii-. Wfftnng a beard, would be aj» great 

t«nrmml\ ah a moustache worn in pow- 

VmsL (layts. Habold Malet, Col. 

Jfiic SrriT8 Greys and Gbey Horses (10 

|vii, iU), — 1 have not neen the article in 

lUuatroUd Lond'jn Stw«. and do not 

if Muntion is made in it of the grey 

B<»nu in which the regiment was clothed, 

laplkt arr from official papers date<:l 1 tt83. 

Sjgardt* the colour of the horses, I 

> following from Prof. John VValker'H 

ucal History of the HebrideK and 

ndn of Scotland.' Edinburgh, 1808, 

Up. 154:— 

brt'tf ftrnturif* atpJ. ft breed of grey hursc* 

Hi\ in Cly«k««1rtk'. liy the Hamilton 

' '\<\ ill yreat re<|ueHt. 

HI the WVnt tIiMil|^ht 

_^ ^-- '. - ; a }{rey )iurae. It was 1 

t luvraM nf this linwd. timt the «>ld repmented ! 
•if ctivftlry, the »Scol* (lrev», w<ik tirst 

W. S. 

|£sLVNUTo-V " : Islington (10 S. vi. 

' — Mb. A1.BC1C Abrahams inquires 

the variant ** Eslyngton "" occur« 

rliere than m the * Diarv' ' of Hemy 

hyn i[i 1 554. I can give him an iiwtaiicV' 

ni yean* earlier, therefore 1 do not think 

•n be attributed to Machjii's phonetic 

' ring only. To the bent of my belief, 

t*» acroBM it vi'ty nnich earlier, 

(juite sure. The letter wliieh 

Hi Rrtlr.h Broke to Lisle, dated 

'li, 1 from " Eslyntoun. nr. 

on " (< .. - • Letters and Pai>ers,' 

] Joseph Colveb Maariott. 

kClnrKUioMt KcmmI, High;:nt«. 

Ill uji»^ \\. Tomlina in his ' Perambula- 
- tun.* p. 2, referM to litllngton as 
lar corruption of Yseldon, 
ktientiy pronounciHl ond wTitten Eywel- 
Y *»»d he priK't-eds to deal witJi the 
i-ation. PtTlmpH this early use of tlve 
E will account for Ihe'use of it by 
iry MjM-'hyn, Frank Penny. 

>VlCJi r<mK : roRK over" (10 S. vi. 449; 
S)-— ** Over fork over " apf>earH to be 
motto by various branrhe« of 
•—for instance. Sir Percy Ciui- 
creatiun tTOj .>f Milncraig, 
Ho***? arn, a nhake 

thriHJ !l ' iibh*. and 

supporters : Dexter, a knight holding in 
luH exterior hand a sipear ; Sinister, a 
countryman, in liiw exterior hand a hay- 
fork. TliiK family is a younger brancli of 
the Earls of Olencairn. 

See alHo Dick-Cunningham, Bt., creation 
1077 and 1807 ; Cunninghame, Bt., crea- 
tion 1672 ; Fairlie'Cuninghame, Bt., creation 
1630 ; and the Marquis Conyngliam, who, 
like the above-mentioned baronete, includes* 
a shake-fork in his coat of arms and bears 
the motto *' Over fork over." It is curiovw 
what a nxniiber of varieties in 8]>elling there 
are of the family Hurname. 

The Cnnninghamet* of Kilmaiu^, Scotland, 
were founder! by Wamebald, who settlecl 
in Cunningham a« a vassal under Hugh 
Moreville, Constable of Scotland, in the 
twelfth century, and a^smned the name 
of Cunninghame, The chief line of this 
ancient race, the Cunninghams, EarlM of 
Glencairn. became extinct at the, 
in 1796, of John, fifteenth Earl of (Uencairn, 
the friend and patron of Robert Burns. 
whowe beautiful ' Lament ' has added new 
luHtre to the name of Glencairn. 

The heir-generalship of this family ie now 
vesited in the FerguBHon baronetcy, creation 
1703. of Kilkerraii, AyrHhire, The third 
baronet claimetl in 171H> the Earldom of 
(jrlencairn (created 1488) : the Lorfk clecidecl 
that he had proved himself to be the heir- 
general to Alexander, Earl of Glencairn, 
w!m died 1H70, but had not proved hia 
right to tlie earldom. 

My maternal grandfather, the late CoL 
8ir John Laiu-ie, K.A,. eiphth Baronet of 
Maxwelton, creation 1685 Nova Scotia, was 
considered to have a claim to the earldom ; 
and there was a transference of lands in 
Dumfriesshire from the Earl of Glencairn 
to the grandfather of thu first Laurit-r 
baronet in the middle of the sixteenth ceo- 
ttu'y, wbtvh territory to thia day liaa not 
been alienated. 

Among the derivative branches of Kil- 
maur», 1 may mention the Cunninghams 
of Glengarnock, Caddell, Polmaise, Drumqn- 
hasael, Ballimlalloch, Aiket. Monkredding, 
CapringtoTV. Lainshaw, AnchenliarA'ie, Cmi- 
ninghamhead. Craigmdt*. Corehill, Carlung, 
and Montgrenan, who bore for arms Ar., a 
shake - fork sa. Crest, A unicorn's head, 
couped ar, maned and homwl or. Siip- 
portera, two rabbits ppr. Motto, '' Over 
fork over. ' F. W, K. Oarnett. 

Wcllini^tofi Club, (iwavriwr Plrice, S. W. 

" Ito *' : " Itoland " ( 10 S. vi. 461 : vii- 
12). — Tn reply to Mr. ADR.\H\Mft^^ e\:*\\\fcvsvw^ 


NOTES AND QUERIES. uo 8. vn. fb,.. i,) 

1 may aay that my ** enthusiastic laudation ** 

of the Territorial Movement hns received 
extraordinary confirmation within the last 
few days, in quarters and in a manner that 
mu8t convince tlio most apathetic of the 
soundness of its* principles and of the states- 
manship of the founder. Mr. Zangwill has 
received from a sympathizer the princely 
donation of 100.000/.. and the preat and 
noble house of Rothschild has handed to 
Jiim 20,000/. for the purpose of setting on 
foot one invaluable branch of the great 
work, viz., emigration on a basis of self- 
dependence. Emigrants will pay their own 
paaaage money to their destinations, but 
will receive advice and guidance from Ito 
agents on landing. Hitherto, as I pointed 
out in my note, everything ha.s been done 
for the emigrant, except finding liini : under 
those conditions there was an abundant 
supply, naturally the leant desirable in a 
new coumtry. Philantlu"opy was twice 
cursed : it cursed those who gave and those 
who received its doles. The age of Schtuyr- 
ring is dead. We mean to raise up a genera- 
tion of self-respecting, law-abiding citizens, 
making their own laws in their own way, 
in any land that will give us power vmder 
charter. It is time the world settletl this 
miserable Jewish question by giving us what 
we want, and what, as men and women, 
•we are entitled to, viz., the right of working 
out the spiritual salvation of our race in 
any way that seems best in our own eyes. 
That is oiur idea of Autonomy. I have 
been a Territorialist for years. 

M, L, R, Breslab, 

Elwott: Ponsonby, 1661 (10 S. v. 269). 
— Having some information upon this 
Elliott family, I sliould be glad to hear frotn 
A. C. H. and to send such facts as may be 
useful, R. E. E. Chaimbeks. 

Pill Hnnse, Bi.'»hoii"B Tnwton, BarnKtAiiU*. 


ToaniY-ON-THE-BRiDGE (10 S- vii. 30). — 
On the first day of the year wliich has just 
begtm there died here a Newcastle '" clia- 
racter/' known far and wide, even beyond 
the confines of this district, as ** Tommy -on- 
the-Bridge." An Lngenious plan with wliich 
he is credited for clteckmating tlie police 
might serve to furnish Mr. Ktjdolph de 
Cordova with an illustration of parish- 
boundary humour, though, quite apai't from 
this, I think his death is worth noting 
hero, as lie had become, if I may so phrase 
it, a reico^iized Newcastle itrstitution — 
one of the sights of the city that tiie curious 

mation on matters Novocastt-inTt • -^> i 
considered complet<^. Tommy li 
attaitied such distinction an obi., 
him the dignity of having: hit* \ 
printed on a post card and sol»l f • .i- t n-, 

For the jnu'jMise of s >i ■■ - 

*' Tommy-on-thi.^-Bridge " t«' -ti. i> 

everj^ day, and in all sorts of weatbcft for 
well on towards half a century, near th» 
middle of the Low Bridge, stretching acrcss 
the TjTie from Newcastle to GateslieAtL 
The old stone bridge, removed ui 1867. that 
preceded the existing structure, liad lh< 
line of division between the t>vo towtB 
indicated by a long narrow pavement stv>D" 
running right across tlie footpaJh. To 
many generations of Tynesiders fhig w»» 
known as " the Bluestone.'* and it xvwls heve 
that Tommy tirst took up his wtation. He 

was blind, and usually wore a sh-tl-^ i*f 

coat reaching almost do\ni to lii- uul 

a world too wide for liim. His lu i tjg 

peculiarity, however, was a < »» 

rocking and half-turning motion. i by 

raising first one foot and then tlie other 
slightly from the ground, swajnng his hr«d 
in the meanwhile in unison with his body. 
and lightly but incessantly tappiixg hsA 
breast with the thumb of one hand. The 
latter action was doubtless due to n nf ri'ous 
affection, but the rocking m«- » 

said to have been vohuitary at hi , hf» 

explanation given of it* origin is . ; i ,,i- 
cnough to be worth preservnng, tli ^j 
exactly how much fact and Ilow much laucy 
there is in this explanation I havt* no nieaas 
of ascertaining. One thing, however, is 
certain. Tommy, when he was off the 
bridge, did not lift Ids feet alternately when 
standing, as he was accustomed to do on Uu? 
bridge, and this I think we may take as mam 
piece of evidence in favour of the accouni 
conunonly l^elieved in. 

The Bluestone, where Tommy-on-tbo- 
Bndge first took his stand in Uie cor^ 
sixties of last century, mai-ked, as hiiB bettn 
said, the V>oundar>'^ line separating the towna 
of Newcastle and Gateshead. \Vhon In* 
stood still. Tommy had a foot in eneb ; 
when he rocked and lifted his T ,.p- 

nately. though the one foot %■ r|y 

enough in Newcastle or Osi ' -ht 

case might be, the other foti ■ bi? 

moment off the ground, coaiu nni n.- 5«ud 
to lie in either place. Torunn* thnrv/ore 

elauned, as a logical dwluction f^ •* f-5« 

premises, that as he was in n« i .110 

altogether, it n^'i-t i^How iId.i in ,^ 

be said to be n n» 

10 8. vn. Feb. 2. 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


ference. The idea was fanciful, and I should 
imagine unique ; but, whatever its origin, 
whether deliberately entered upon or not, 
the alternating movement, from long con- 
tinnance, became automatic when he took 
ap hiB position at his accustomed place. 

When the old atone bridge above referred 
to was demolished, the historic " blew-stone," 
aa it— or one like it — was termed by Grey 
in his * Chorographia,' as far back as 1640, 
found an appropriate resting-place witli 
^ Newcastle Antiquetries. On the ne\^' 
bridge, however. Tommy took up his wonted 
poaitioa. In an ordinary way he stood 
^thout speaking, unless a passer-by ad- 
dreaaed hmi, when he was by no means 
alow in retort. But occasionally, when his 
takings were very scanty, he lost his temper 
ttid poured out a steely stream of profanity 
on a hard-hearted world. This brought 
bim now and again into the clutches of the 
police, who, however, were extremely 
nidiilgent towards the old mendicant, so 
loM as they could recwonably be indulgent, 
and usually gave him the opportunity, by 
^ alowness of their approacn, of seeking 
••nctuary at the other side of the boundary, 
where their authority ceased. 

By the death of Tommy-on-the-Brid^e a 
^Bnuliar figure has passed out of the sight 
of Newcastle and Gateshead folks, and Tyne- 
odera, to whatever distant comer of the 
world they may have wandered, will feel 
the poorer for the knowledge that when they 
wtum home and recross the Tyne Bridge 
it will be to find that one of the old associa- 
tioM that linked them with the days of 
their youth has vanished for ever. 

John Oxbebry. 


After the discovery of the Gunpowder 
Rot, Thomas Habington, of Hindlip in the 
; ooonty of Worcester, a well-known sym- 
i l*thizer with tlio Catholics, was apprehended 
ttd condonmcd to death, but, idmost at 
J» last moment, pardoned upon the con- 
"iticwi that he should never, during the rest 
^ hia life, leave the county of Worcester. 
He was then 46 years old, and lived to be 87, 
; •»! during that long period he devoted his 
■ y^ole time to the accimiulation of notes 
lot a history of Worcestershire, which have 
**»ntly been edited by Mr. John Amphlett, 
*»d published by the Worcestershire His- 
torical Society. When he came to Tarde- 
(^igge he found that the county boundary 
med through the church in suoh a way 
that the nave only was in Woroestershire, 
^od fhentase, although he "streached his 

chayne to the vttermost leangthe," he could 
do no more than view the monuments in 
the chancel from a distance, for that part 
of the church was in Warwickshire. 

Benj. Walker. 
(iravelly Hill, Enlington. 

Coleridoe's ' Dejection ' : a Mis- 
punctuation (10 S. vu. 45).— The intrusive 
comma is omitted without editorial comment 
in the 'Poems of S. T. Coleridge' which 
Messrs. Bell & Daldy included in their 
Elzevu- series of 1864. The late Mr. Thomas 
Ashe also rejected it in his Aldine Coleridge, 
j published in two volumes in 1885. He 
punctuates thus : — 

inrit and the power, 


In a foot-note he indicates that he has made 
the alteration simply from a sense of fitness. 
" Wo have," he says, " removed a confusmg 
comma : * Joy, wedding Nature, gives us 
in dower a now earth,^ &c." This gloss 
accords with one of the readings suggested 
by Mr. Shawcross, but it seems less satis- 
factory than his alternative arrangement of 
the clause. This, by the placing of commas 
after ".which" and "us" respectively, 
shows that through the agency of Joy a 
union is effected between Nature and the 
human spirit, and this appears to be the 
poet's meaning. Thomas Bayne. 

Gentlemen's Evening Dress (10 S. vii. 
48).— See chap. iv. of * Pelham.' Lady 
Frances, writing to her son, after recom- 
mending the wearing of flannel waistcoats 
as " very good for the complexion," observes • 

"Apro/WM of the complexion : I did not like the 
hliio coat vou wore when I last saw you: you Uwk 
iKjat in black— which is a Kreat compliment, tOT 
l»eoplo must be very distinguished in api)earance in 
oixler to do so." 

In the • Life of Lord Lytton,' liis son, the 
first Earl, writes : — 

"One at least of the changes which the l)ook 
(' Pelham' is referred to here] effected in matters 
of dress has kept its Krouiid to this day...... till then 

iioats worn for evening dress were of tlitterent 
colours, >.rown, green, or blue, according tn the 
lancv of the wearer ; and Lord Orford tells me 
That* the adoption of the now invariable black dates 
from the publication of ' Pelham. All the cont^im- 
poraries of Pelham would apiKjar tx) have l>een 
Himultaneouslv iK)88e88ed with the idea that liieyi 
were entitled to take to themselves the grj'at com 
jiliment \>&\d by Latly Frances to her son. — Life 
\'ol. ii., p. UK). 
' Pelham '♦was published in 1827. 

Capt. Jesse, 1 who imet Brummell at Caen 
in 1832, describes the Beau as "standing 
to his Wliig colours to the last" \ — 


NOTES AND QUERIES. no s. vu. kju.. s^ tMi 

of ii Mu».' > 

buTt<in,'^i-- ' ■•,,,■'■, I, ,^.i - 

It is tlirtitnilt to Jiiu»K"i*^wi'**l '^'^"W Uiivc rtxoncilciJ 
hirri TO A(l«*|»t llic two ktUr iiinovfttio«» iiiw>n 
eveiiinir f*oKtuine, vuiIcms il weix* tlie usual apolo^ 
for Bxu-h ik'jirnernfV in modern ta^te, the alU'red 

jirxip.irtiotis of his tegs He asrs averse to strong 

contrast* in colonrB. .. Ono evyninjr he swid, * M v 
tk'«r JeNKKf, 1 ntii sadly afmid you have been read- 
ing " IVlham '' ; liut.excuHe nie, you kiok very much 
likti a niai»pi«*/ 1 was fli-essed In a black eont and 
trousTC'is. and wln'te waislttMit, an<l though I had 
jitjvcr ipvcM that pentlenum's advt'Hturt'M a wcond 
thought. I i'on«irh.T»-<l myself n\ b«nst ii jiradc n Ik>vc a 
nittgpir."- ' r^ift' of Beau Btnriuiicll.' 18ri4, cluip. vii. 

The fashion of black must have come in 
x'exy slowly ; for from various fat»hion-plat^fi 
ill luy |»o88<?i88Jon, blue, brown, and dark- 
green coats were common iii the thirties, 
and not entirely unknown in the early 
years uf the following decade. 


In the Daily Mail of 14 December, 1900. 
was an illustration of men's evening clothes 
as they were worn in 1801, sshowing that the 
decorated waistcoat and frilled shirt, such 
as it l> desired in some quarters to revive 
to-day, were then in vojkfue. 1 have not 
veritied the quotatioTi. but in Chainbrrs'a 
Jnurnnl for May, 1904. the adoption of 
black is said to have come about through 
a jiarajnaph in Lytton't* ' relham,' his 
tjeeond novel, which did not appear until 
1827. J. HoLDEN MacMichael. 

Thii AixsTY or YoBK (10 S. vi. 462, 5U ; 
vii. 36). — It aeems to me to be rather im- 
probable that a large tract of country con- 
taining 49,720 acres, and, nowa<layt+, 
twenty pariBhes, fchoiikl be named after a 
tra<.'k only wide enough fi»r the passage of 
one horse or carriage. Was Canon Taylor 
titterly wTong in his suggestion that Ainsty 
hignitied. as regarded York, its own jioj*- 
Hession, its peculiar ? See 8 S. i. 383. 

St. Sw^iTHUf. 

**T«K Mahalla " (10 S. vii. 45).— Mit. 
Maybew is not quite correct in ascribing to 
this the sense of anny or army corps. It 
\» the teclinical term for a column quartered 
on a rebellious cit>', w^th the object of 
"eating it up." and so reducing it to sub- 
mission. Mahalkt is a well-known Arabic 
word, derived from the verb " to abide,'* 
and uieaning a parish or other division of a 
cily or town. The tertn is in comstant u»e 
in Per^a. India. Tiu"kev, and other Moham- 
medan countries, and lias been taken over 

* Brumnioll was apjioititcil firittaii CoiiauI atQft«» 

as a loan-word by several Fn-r p -tn iMe 
guages. Thus in Greek we l< \aJl&l» 

a street or cpiart-er ; in Koumtiinfit ttni>haAi% 
ward, di'ctiun, suburb ; iti Servian aiui 
Croatian nmhdla, *' Voratadt ixier StAdi- 
viertel," &c. J as. Pi«*tt, Jun, 

Rotahy Bromide Process (10 8. v. ainv, 
— 1 should like to eonlinn what J^. L K. 
says as to the excellence and e<ui * 

of copies made by competent op* ti 

this proccRS. Perhaps he will hi 4 

a« to let me know the name and a if 

a photographer who will do snich ^sitk m 
the Public Becoid Office. 

H. J. WHlTVVEt-t-. 

"0, Bfudiury Road, Oxfmti 

Prof. Walter Baily's Dooks (lU 8. \L 
507).— The Heference Department of th^" 
City of Hirmingham Free Library dt»» 
po.ssess an original copy of Dr. I' 
pamphlet on the baths at Xewnhrt 
but about twenty-five years a;:t> .* 

added to its collection of Wai vs i. nr^itie 
books a carefully writt^^n transcript of it. 
The copy from which this trnnsK^ript watb 
made wa** dedicated *' To the right honor- 
able 8r. Frauncis Walsinghm knight ininrl- 
pall secretarye to the qiiens most 
Ma." Bknj. W 

(Jravelly Hill, KHijitftcm. 

Andrew Jukes (10 8. vti. 48). ^Mr, .luiceti 
died at Woolwicli, 4 July, 190 1, aged »5. 
A hst of lus extremely thoughtful and «»m- 
gestive works will be ftiund iji CrcK-kford's 
'Clerical Directory' for 1890 and I9«I0. 
They begin with a Hulsean priio esaay «m 
the ' interpretation of prnphecy. in 1841, 
and end with 'The Order and ConrMH'tjoa 
of the Church's Teaching * (notes on t\» 
Collects, Epistles, and CJosjwIs — thi* lea«t 
striking of his v%orkfi, so far as 1 know them), 
in 1893. He was B^A. of Trmity CoUegi», 
Cambridge, was ordained deat^on in 1842^ 
and nev'er proc«M^ded to priest's orders, btsfe 
after hokling a curacy at Hull for a abort 
time lived a studious and retired life. 

W. D. Macr.\v. 

The Hev. Andrew Jukes was fifii 
deacon'& «»rderK in 1842. and was I 
the curacy of St. John's Church, Hull. .\l,v 

Iiersonal rncollections of hiiu are of what 
le was after he hatl become the pastor of un 
independent congregation in the town.. In 
his jniblic ministrations he contiont ' * -r 
the prayers oi the Church of En^ 
his leaching waM akin to that ot ;.. 
mouth Brethren. The p\ibh<'*tion. in 

of b.- b.w.U • TV*.' r>«utb lU.i 

,10 s. m KiciL i. i«07.) NOTES AND QUERIES. 


of All Things ' gave rise to con- 

Idch resulted in the break-up of 

be Hull riMi^rreKation. Mr. JukeiS remov»*d 

!Iiglii;»f*-, Hiul tht^n obt-airu*tl nenaiKHioii 

itiP biHJioj> to ofticiate in eburcheH in 

of London; but he rt«ceived ni> 

eot appointment in the Church of 

gland. F. Jarratt. 

I Andrew .Takes' hi ' Lett+'rH,* t^igetiier with 

laharl biography by Iterbert H. .TeafTreson, 

^ in \W3 (L'<»ngman.s). The Church 

snil (jHiirdian &\so hod noticeK, I 

)kiv\T. VV'm. H. Pkkt. 

. J. B- W.viNKWJtiniiT a1*i tiiAitketl for reply.] 


IS. xni. 48). — Like most of the«e wise old 

overlw, this in jirobably, in some form or 

r. universal. In Gennany there are 

forms of it. ** A i^enny saved is a 

Imtty gained " (" Erspart^r Pfennig ist so 

^t me erworbene") ; '* A penny saved is 

Hue got " (*' Ein ersparter Pfennig i>ifc 

4 verdient ") ; and ** Penny i« penny's 

'" (" Pfennig i^t Pfennig.^ Bruder "). 

Spaniah. *' A penny spared is a penny 

(** Quien come y dexa, dos veces 

la mwa"). In butch *' A penny 

is better than a Horin gaine*i " 

!Eco Atuiver ge*paard is beter <lan een 

den gewonnen "). In Danish. *' A penny 

ttime 14 a» good as a dollar " (" En Skilling 

i Tide Baa god ftoin en Daler "). In 

cU. " Saving \b getting " (** Qui epargiie, 

r"). Similarly m German, '* Saving 

pgrwater art than gaining " (*' Sparen i^t 

Dwoere kunst als erwerben "). Danish, 

Jloney *iaved i* an gomi a« money gained " 

h)cn Pt-nge man »i:>arer er Haa god som 

man avler"l Italian, "Money is 

r'a brother " (*' U danaro e fratello del 

•). But money i* no gain when it 

^^ mcatfocka ' (*' Ueniers avancent 

"}. English. " Penny and penny 

will be many/' and " Who will not 

"^1 A i»pnn\ '^hftU n<!ver have maiiy " — 

who m prixlij^al of little can never have 

L«tdeah .1. HoUJEN MalMichakl. 

[Axui/i-Lni'Lvv * LrnxE Jack HrjuNER ' 

vi! \') -Afl it in many years ninee 

, ' m India L fee! some hcsi- 

ug Mk. Pi^rr's Hindustani. 

ut\ I am inrlined to tlunk that one 

Uie word>^ are ineorre<:tly given, 

I pot reo»nnber having heard the 

^lin»!« bulwd nhoiild, I fant-y, retwi 

t*irwe of Wfid .• nccJui *Ahoid«l 

ript'lt acttctui . and /»o«\ although 

possibly it may have been given correctly 
to rime with pir in the second line, should 
probably be hahh to agree with h<irn, tlie 
plural of main (I). In India an Engli&lmian 
invariably iinea the plural form of the per- 
sonal pronoun when S|)ejddng of himself au 
in the verses, and the verb would be in agree- 


By Sir 

JfMfiifvfU Loiulon. — Vot. IL ErrJtAiniit icaL 

Wttitor Besant. (A. & LI Block. | 
WiiETiiKR the HPcond vohimo of Sir Waltor Besnrit'a 
* Modiujvttl London' completes the wmii wj far an 
thatei>ooh in ooriccrned, or whether Ji third vulunie 
i« in cont«?iniplHtion, w a matter on whicli no tiuHnite 
informutioii is sxippliefl. So emsyoloiKediii \s tJio 
work, rtJid i^o AniVntious in the H«!henie whon tixiked 
lit ill its entirety, that the Utter coDtiun'MK-y nuiv 
bo regarded a.** oonoei\'fth!e, in which ca>it> thyre will 
\w matter for thaiikfuhiCHu on the part of the 
reader, who oan scarcely have t<K) much of matter 
of the chiKs. 

The «;Hrliei' voliuiie (for which see 10 S, v. ;i^l 
dealt with the historiiuil and «ooial aAi>ects of 
niediieval London, it^ first ]Mirt heins <7oncerned 
with sovereiijns from Henry IL to Kirliarcl III., 
while the Aecoiid occujiieci it**elf with streotn, Imild- 
ings, manners, cuHtoinrt, hterature, and other sodal 
a>i|iect8. Like ita in-efleccasor, the present yolvime 
is iti two. or rather three, {tarts, the latest, larKURti 
and on tin:! whole most innwrtAiit of wjiicli can 
alone lie reyanletl as LHtclesiiisticaL The jjovtrr-n^ 
nitjnt of T>.>ndon — eH]M.'cially the Coninuine, the 
wards, the faction**, and the City eotniMinies — ih 
treAte*! of in the oiieuintt i>orlion. For this section 
of lu8 task Sir Walter has been indebted to the 
City records, »onceming which he wiya that "no 
city in the world jKissesses a collection of archives 
so ancient and so CK^)ni[ilett as the cnlh.'ction at tlic 
iluildhall." Many of the moHt important ot thew 
art*, under the eomiietent eliarge ot Dr. ShurjM', 
being renderetl acecssihle by the Conjuration. In 
the initial ]»ortion of his volume the author lieoelitx 
taruely Ity tin? lalKnir-H of Mr .J. H. Ktmnd and 
Bishoi* Stuhhf*. and hy the invnhmble publieatinMn 
of Dr. Shaifie. The laets stand out tluit a com- 
mune wa*! tsranted to Loiulon in 1 191, and that two 
years later the Ma^'or of Jj<jndon Hrnt api»ears. ( )u 
the iiiHuence of these institutions Sir \\ aher vv«xi««* 
elo«|uent, ^yiiiji tliut they made tho futni'e devi;lii|i- 
ment of Ixniilon jiortsible and natural, and luldin^ 
that •*» lonK «UfCM?«,<4Jon of the «ia<?st und most 
berievolunt kJntP* would nevt^r have rlon« for Looiion 
what Ijondon was thus enabled to dt> for hersilf." 
In l'il.'» the t-itizuiis obtained from Kinj; Joim the 
rijflit to elect tJieir own Mayor. *' Kinn Kich.ii-d 
took nohoatile iirooeoilingA aKaimnt the Mayoralty. 
He never rccotfuixod it; but he never tried to 
abolish it." 

At ]i. 127 the ccolesiaaticaliMirtion of tlio vohinie 
Injuins with a chapter mi * Tiic RclicioUH Lifi*.' A 
sini^tdarly edifying oliapter th^^{ in. It ofivn.i !hu>« : 
" ifohurohes and rtditciou;' hoines maktMiv reVvitviiw. 
then Loudon of the thirteenth avv\ iviv\rVtcv\\.\\ ww* 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [lo s. vii. fkb. 2. m. 

turies surely attained the highest i»oint ever reached 
in relijrion. The Church was everywhere." As 
might be inferred from the iwruaal of Chaucer, 
there was no street but by the siRht of a Hpire or a 
wall reminded the citizen that theChui-ch was with 
him always to rule his life. At her V>idding the 
whole nation, from the kingdowiiwards, renounced 
meat for a fourth i)art of the whole year— a fact 
which, as is said, *'alone marks the enormous power 
of tiie Cljurch." In the fourteenth century, when 
the tiuiiulation of London was not more than 
120,1)00, there were in London IS*) i)arish cimi'chcs. 
Sir'Wa'lter estimates roughly that with the fMrish 
churches and their iii-oi)erty a full tjuarter of the 
city was occuiiied by the religious houses and the 
l)laces they owned, and lie opines that what the lx>y 
Whittington heard at Higligate was not the chime 
of liow Church alone— it was the sound of the liells 
of all the churches and all the convents of London 
ringing together. 

These extmcts—often in the very words of the 
lKK>k--show how brijjht, animated, and picturesque 
is a l>ook which is monumental in its sco]ie. 
We have testified Ijefore, and will do so again, to 
the tranficemlent ments of a work which during its 
pnnii'ess was it,s author's delight, and on its ctim- 
l)letion will constitute his monument. The illustra- 
tions arc once more a highly admirable and striking 
featui-e. Those to the opening ]K)rtion are chosen 
with much taste, and are drawn frequently from 
recondite sources. 

Lf.ffti''* of Litf.rari/ J/f ».— Vol. I. Sir Thomas More, 
to lioUrf. Jhirii't. -Vol. 11. Nivttetnth Ceufnrt/. 
Arranged and edited by F. A. Mumby. (Rout- 
ledge & Sons.) 
[n two volumes belonging to the valuable and 
ittnvctive " L<»ndon Li}>rary" we have here a repre- 
Mintative collection of the Injst English letters, 
linking the i>eri(Kl ot Sir Thomas More and that of 
Tennvsun and Ruskin. We say designedly "the 
best,'^ though in the case of the contents of the 
irsl volume it is hard to s*vv which of \Vali)ole, 
iray. and 0.)M1*i' i*' best. Tne first letter in this 
b'olumc is a touching ei)istle to his daughter 
Nlargaret Roper, written with a coal by Sir 
Thomas More when a prisoner in the Tower. Very 
iarlyconie two letters ti-on> JoluiLyly the Kuphuist, 
from the recently jiublished edition of his plays by 
Mr. K. Warwick fJoiwl. Spenser, Ascham, Raleigli. 
Sidnev. Bacon. Reauunmt, Jonson, Donne, are all 
included in the first section. In the second— the 
ige of .MilUm and l>rv<len- nppear, among others, 
Suckling. Walton, the Duchess of Newcastle, 
ZJowlcy, and Congreve. The third section com- 
»rises'such known letter- writers as SM'ift. Pojie, 
Lord Chesterfield, (iray, WrtliK)le, Johnson, and 
ioldsmith: and the fourth, Burke, (iiblwn, 
Sheridan, Cow7ier. and Burns. 

Vol. ii. begins with Fanny Burney and her con- 
[i<lences concerning "Daddy" Crisi), and, after deal- I 
ng with Blake, Scott, Woixlswortii, and Coleridge, ! 
reaches I^amb, the most delightful of letter- writers. \ 
liwnm heads a i>art including the correspondence ' 
)f Mcjore, Shelley, Keats. Hazlitt, Hunt, I^indor, , 
uid Be<ldi.)cs. The Early Victorian Age begins with I 
NIacaulay. and jMuwes through Thackeray and the 
Brownings to Dickens, Hood, and Carlyle. As the 
M^lection is confined to those no longer living, ' 
the last part is * The Ago of Tennyson,' and in- 
cludes Kingsley, Matthew Arnold, Rossetti, James 
rhomson, K. L. Stevenson, and John Ruskin. The ' 

work is happy, and the volumes may be opened 
iiy ]Hjint with the certainty of gratification. 

selection is on the whole well made, the idea of 
the work is I 
at any ] 

Hitton/ oftht: ItaJian Hepultfict in the MuldltAgf*^ 
By J. C. L. Sismondi. Recast and suitplemeiited 
by William Boulting. (Routledge & Sons.) 
In favour of the series to which this volume be- 
longs, and its claims u]X)n the serious student and 
lxx)klover, we have already 8iK>ken. Our commenda- 
tions arc once more meritea and l>estowe<l. There 
is a class of worker to whom Sismondi's ' Italian 
Republics* constitutes an inestimable treasure. 
Here for a crown is the whole of a great histoir, 
never, so far as we are aware, at anything lin 
so reasonable or satisfactory a j>rice rendered 
accessible to the English^ reader. Its substance i» 
moreover rc(?ast in the light of 8ub8e<iuent know- 
ledge, and is in some rcsjiects corrected, and in 
others brou^Iit up to date. Close study, such w 
the b<X)k in \tn jtresent state demands, is not within 
general reach, and we ouraelves, looking at the 
temptations the work ]iuts forward, can but fflKi> 
for the leisure, which we know resignedly can never 
more be ours, t4> master and assimimc all its varied 
information. Youth is the time in which one reads 
and stores up knowledge. We can, then, but con- 
gratulate the fortunate youth in whom the love of 
learning burns on the fact that he has within hi» 
reach a work, at a nominal i)rice, the full deglu- 
tition and enjoyment of which may fundsh him 
with sustenance and juistimc for tne rest of the 
winter. Books such hs the present are those pre- 
cisely wlii<;h the hartlworking student lacks. The 
production of such is a Ixwn to the scholar. 

Colfectanca. First Series. By Cliarles Crawford. 

(Stratford-on-Avon, ShakesiK?are Head Press.) 
Wk have here, with a dedication to Prof. lX»wdenr 
who is well aware of the value of the contents, a 
volume <»f sinpilar interest to Shakes] leariou 
studentJ< generally, and to readers of ' X. & (^." in 
mrticulnr. ThisVohime— to l>e followed, it is to- 
be hoi)ed, by many others— consists* of the investi- 
gations into the early drama of Mr. Charles Craw- 
foif]. Of its contents -with the exception of a 
single article on 'Ardcn of Feversham,' which 

attention of our i-cadeis. As a proof of how much 
can l»e accomplished by the aia of ]iai>alleb judi- 
ciously selected, they (xroupy a unique ]K)sition in 
literature. By Mr. Crawtoixl's aid the cruces rf 
tlie Tudor drama are being solved, and light is cart 
uiion tlie darkest of its mysteries. The four l>ai«J 
reprinted from our columns jire those on (I) Richard 
Banifield, Marlowe, and Shakesi)eare ; (2) B«u 
Jonson's metluKl of (■oin]^K)sing verse ; (.3) John 
Welxster and Sir l*hilin Sidney; and (4) Edmund 
Spenser, ' Selinius,' and * Ix>crine.' Quite irrefut- 
able are the conclusions of these senarate essavB. 
and their interest is enormous, absorbing. Ai 
revelations they are wonderful : and the only (|ue»- 
ti<in concerning tliem is. Whither do they* tendl 
In no other literature, surely, can similar rewO* 
blances and obligations be traced. It is naturallT 
iniiKissible for us to (luote afresh in our (WunW 
what first ai)peared therein. \>'e can only con- 
gratulate ourselves upon being the earliegt to injl^ 
duce to the public matter so valuable and M 

Fei. 2, 1907 ] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


J iMIllfUl-lli 

BUruvit Kl 
halt'-nioroi. ■.. : 
pirt. 13 voliii,, Paris. I' 
'on of the T^oyrtl I 

uv. \m\: 

r the Pul 

The RfHi 

frrxiN l.'<l tiy 11 is 

4. «/. Hv. : Motlaii.r« 
i".....r,' KWV;, 4/. it.; 

iry." 11 vols.. 

'A thv Prtrkvr 


Ji It* v«l>*., Gf, tU. ; Findcn'f* ■ Byi-on lllnsLni- 
'H». ; fljid Ll»riRUj|iher Wren's * Life nu'l 
»,' 32«, (V/, There are interesting tt^inu tinder 

p. BraHn's l!*atalo^e oO contains Ch-id'a 
|»hfw»i*,' witli l*ic«rt'« ]ilnte8, 17i^2, tiV. ; 
inlets Ari'/lfr.' tirst edition issutwl by 

,r>i ' • •• • ' •^Life'^.^• 


_ iV.; 3/ihi. ; 

*Hii*« oi PUnU, loWO, 4/. 4«. ; La 

LlBKa, aib.. : and H'ubijit-t c\cs Fvea,' 178-'i. 

, _l»<«rv nrtr items under Kfttlv Kdilious, 

and <Jrmmn Lilentture, Heraldry, Topo- 

Iter V. Diiiiiel] sends Part 3 of his Ctttii- 

riphicnl LiL<?rAtttre. Thi« oontAin« 

unmmirli. We note a few iteniH. 

ricli Hof^TMtal is ' The Pttiiilcd 

N'cl>Mjn ]\f"- >>' ^ti^tv,' 15*. Lan- 

l^ps in<.'I»d<v H 1 View of Liver- 

i«nd Mmi I ■• SMnth-West 

[ 172S, |/. 1«. i ishirc is a 

pLols wit)i tht' 1 ooditiuo, 

Uwhijy itictu i I .; . -s 'Anti<^ui- 

[ Ifiotii 'y. 15«.; and n choice collection 

nfrttr* in |tortfrilif». •?/. ]£>•. Under 

■ ; und 


_ ■ ; ! ::vre»<t- 

iif, iHin. l»y J4ni., Hhowinj' 

-. 1U«. The next imrt of 

vMii i>c cxcUiinvtfly dovolod to 

TioVnn'- DitAlot;u<> 147 itielud«"s 
" of Dr. linrnelt. TooU; 
Lever, nnd the Ihtke of 

iH'ir IS jl lu . - ijf. of 

kemtijr .STi»i>t' Dir ptioii 

' Paijitcd In I U^^ for 

tiiM) Drtv I .,kl 1 1 ante, 

aliMi on h MSS. i>r 

ot WltiL- 

' ^^"llev. 

I hlue 


I'ln uf 


• >. I iie first 

edition of Sterne's 'Sentimental Journey.' 17tW, 
7A 1<>*. ; eleven ImmiIvS and fiHiuphlets juitited Ity 
W. J. Linton rtt the Aimledore Press, 188*2 ft). 
4/. 4h.; first edition of Shelley's 'Nix Weeks' Tour,' 
uncut, Hookluuu & Oilier, 1H17, 3/. 3^. ; ti cnlk"cii<in 
of 176 PlayhilU made hy Toole, MCi^m, ]2/.; and 
U*»few's 'P(K'ni«,'ii xeventeenth-eentury MS., ueHtly 
written in t)ie sixnie Imnd, circa 1U40, 1(V. ID-*. Wt* 
hftvo no further space, but almu^t caoh item in this 
caU»li>(?no has ft history of iU* own. 

Mr, Williftm GUisher hna a Cataloifue of Poimkr 
Cuj'tent Littfiruture. 

Mr. William Hit^hnmn's Brihtol tj'iitalocue 44 
Contains a set of Lawrence tt Bulk'i)".*! " Itftlian 
NoveliHts," 9 voK, lOf. : The Attccilot; 12 vols., 2/. j 
Howell mid Cobbett's ' Stiite Trials.' 1809-28. 
;14voIm., 14/. \U.\ Petit's 'OUhedrnls of Knyland,* 
'2:i orii^inal drawiuj^ii. 2/. ; Mornmrs * Ronmno- 
lirilish Monaic Pnvemeiits.' deseribinif the tessel- 
lated Puvf-inents of England, county by county, 18-(,; 
'Warwiek Cantle to the Present Day,' hy the 
Countefis of Warwiek, 13«. (W.: and .loln'istone and 
Croall's ' Nftturc-nrintt'd British Seaweeds,' 210 
coloure«l plates by Bradbury. ISt-rfl-tJIJ, 4 vols., 
royal Svo, 2/. 2*. 

Messrs. (Jeorgo .luckes k Co., of BirminiLrham,. 
have in their Catalogue 17f» Kdwarfls's 'Anecdotes 
of Painters," 1808, 2/. 18/<. «*/. ; CoUins's 'Peerage.' 

11 vols.. 1812. 1/. l.><. ; 'CurioBities of Kinblem 
Literature,' a serapbook of drawings f(»lfiurcd by 
hand, 3/. 3«. ; ' Enoyt^lopiedia Britflttujioa/ 7lir 
Tim*j< edition, '.V> vols., 13/.; tiiblxtn's "Rome,' 
8 vols., 3/. bV ; (inillim's 'Heraldry.' folio, UL'tfi. 
;V. : Charles Mathews's *C*>mie Annual ' for 18112, 
and five otiier pamphlets*, 'Trip to Paiis,' 'Trip to 
America," &e., 3/. 18*. tW.; and Slonne's 'Xajwleoii,' 
2/. {Tiiinjt price '21. iw.). Messrs. .Juekes have four 
iMintin^s of Cornwall ooaat scenery by \V. Catiley 
for sale. 

Mr. Alexander W. Macphail. of Edinburgh,, 
includes in his Catalogue LXXXVIJI. an iut<;rest- 
inj; Ht'teenth-ceintury manunoript, ' Sctiius Pan- 
ot-rum,' with letter uiscrt^d tr*)m the author dated 
1(J May, 148*1, larj^c 8vo, niotx>cco, 4/. Hk. ; Dtum- 
moiid's '.Ancient Scottish Weaiions,' 1/. IK*.; 
' Anti'^uariaii and '^roriograjihioal Cabinet." 1H()7-I2, 

12 vols., 1/ I'ls.; ana ' Enoyclopiitlia Britnjiitiea,' 
18(il, 2.W. There are a niimlx?r of items nnder 
Eilinbnrglt and (tla-sgow, ami under S<x»tt are a 
likenej*s in ail, 3/. l.V. ; and a copy of the statue liy 
< ireensliields, 18 in. by 12 in., It. 5/». There is a long 
list of Trials. 

Mr. ¥j. Menken's Book Circular 174 con- 
tains iniiwjrtant items under Ancient Religions. 
I>r»ver« ot heraldry will Ik- intcreat*!d in FoMter's 
* Marks and Ensiyns of Honour," .3/, 3.^. ; and 
tiuiKard's ' Armorial du Itibliophilc.' 2/. 15h. 
Utider Atlas occur the 'Atlas HJstori<p»e,' 7 vols., 
folio, Amsterdam, 173!), *c., o/, 3/*.: and the 

" ' f i w' PariB, ra'i-n, 3/. 3s. Other items 
L( and Edmondson'K ' Baron api urn 
n,' 17<14-84, .V^lHv.; Burton 'h 'Arabian 
iyi|iliis." lieoares, 1885, lo/, ; a cfipy ol the first 
editiiiu f>i the ' Chronicon NnrernVT^fcnse,' ',¥fif.; 
Rtnich Smith's ' Colhx'tntieu Autit|ua,' 1848- 8(», 
7 vols,, ol. *M. ; atid Mjiieschar^ ' Les Falence.s 
Anciermes et M'Klertien,' 2 vols., ',{/. .'i*. (ionea- 
lo|^i«t,^ will be attracted by the entries under 
Foster, these indudunr hn ' Inde.\ to Pt\v\\.«!s\ 
Pciligrees,' 4 vols., unpnblishciV Vi\\\. tcwA^ Iw V'^vt 


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pHntcr, 1(V. 10^.; aiid * Index to Heralds' Vi»ita< 
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uiijnihliHhed, *Jiy. The Library Edition of Jetuto'a 

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There is a long list under Family History. 

MeHHn*. Myew & Co. 'a 114 eontainR first 
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uncut, I8IH, 7/. 7". ; Edition de Luxe of lever's 
Novels, jiolishetl c-alf by Zaehiisidorf, 31/. KR; 
iJoupirrt • Royal BiographieH.' 17'.: fir^•t edition of 
Rossetti'8 'Poems' (one of twelve emucH i»rinte<l 
on handmade i>aper), 1870, .V. Tm. The original 
issue in 12 monthly parts of 'Old St. I'aul's.' TH44, 
12^. lit. "Murray's Family Librar>-." KW, &c., 
ri3 vols.. 7'. 10^.; Beaumont and Fletcher, editeil bv 
l)yce, llvols., 1843-6, \'2/. 1'2m.; ' The Century Did- 
tionan',' V. Dickens's 'Oems from tlie Spirit 
Mine, 12mo, ISTjO, \os. (this contains the 'Hvmn of 
the Wiltshire T^Alwurers,' 8i>ecial1y written for the 
" Leagiie of Universal Bn>therhcNxl ") ; Tfir 7'inteit 
' Knoyclopivdia Britannica,' 35 vols., 14/. UK (cost 
upwards of fiO/.); Home's 'Now Spirit of the Age,' 
with 40 portraits, 1844, ,V. 7". tt^/. ; and a handsome 
Virgil, 3 vols., folio, Rome, 17«3-r>, 3/. iO^. (the 
illustrations were specially engraved for the Ihichess 
of Devonshire). Two sj>ecially interesting items 
lire a copy of Leigh Hunt s ' The Town,' a jtresenta- 
tion copy " to Marv Shelley from her affectionate 
friend the author''; and fi-om Charles Lamb's 
library. Mason's 'Believer's Pocket ComiMtnion,' 
1821, containing verses with Iamb's signature. 
The Catalogue has a long list under Ireland and 

Mclean, 1829-48, 9 vols.,' imiierial folio, ««)/. (this 

iMMjitors Bible.' 49 vols.. 8/. H^.; first eilition of 
Kamerton's * Etching and Pitchers." 1868, a/, "m, ; 
Dodoens's *A Nieuvve Herlial.' l.">78, iV. (last leaf 
if imlex wantinu) ; Percy's ' Household Books.' 
I'iokering, 1827-31, 1/. ,"«. ; Ijiiiiii's 'Sjigas <»f the 
Norse Kings,' 2/. 1(^«. ; Millais's '(;aniu Bii-ds.' 

Hull's ' Hei-efortLshire I'nmona,' 7/. Lw. : Motlov's 
IVorks. 11 vols., tret* oalf. by Riviere, 9/.; aiuf a 
•omplete set of the (■mtntf/ f.'ni/tf IJMtff Jfornf, 
V. 18*. Then; are intcix'.«<ting items under Scott 
md Scotlanil. 

Mr. AllsM-t Sutton, of Manchester, devotes liis 
Jatalogue 148 to the Entilisli I^nkes and t]ie I^ke 
*oets. It contains the TirniHarfioiit <if the Cum- 

>f water-colour drawings, 3/. 7". ft/.: and Scott's 
Border Anti(|uities,* 1814, 1/. 7'». <V/. Thei-e arc 
sarly guide-books: and of course long lists under 
Vordaworth and Southcy. 

Mr. Sutton has also a general catalogue, Xa \WL 
ue note BrwUkairH Maiichftter JoHrita/, \9H\4 
4 vols., 8-.; JfoHMthofil n'oi-dM, 19 vols., 1/. U; 
St. John Hojie's ' Knights of the (rartor.' 2/. 17**/.: 
a comjilete set of PitHch to end of 1W3, htlf- 
min-occ<). 22/, 1(K : a collection of over a haiidred 
Street BalLids. 1/. ; and the TrauMnrfioH* of the 
Manchester Literaiy Club, 28 vols., 3/. 3*. There 
are many items under Lancashire. We would 
suggest to Mr. Sutton that his highlv InterMtiq! 
catalogues would l>e far more enjoyable rendiiv if 
printe<l on onlinary itaiicr, instead of the hifflj 
glazed jtaitor he now uses. 

Mr. Wilfrid M. Voynieh's Short Catalogue fl 
contains 374 items, all more or less rai-e. We note 
hi-st edition of Paracelsus, IflflO, 2/. 12<(. M. Under 
Antliolc^ies will be found a work unknown w 
bibliograiihei-s, Fanutius's ' AurenmprorsuaOpoin- 
lum de Comiiarationibus Poetarunr (Vii-gil, Lobr- 
tms, Seneca, Horace. &o.). Bologna, I.TM, a. it: 
and Mirandula's ' Illustrium Poetarum FIoM,' 
1598, 2/. '1^. The editor of the latter is unknovn. 
Under Bibles are three not in the Caxton Exhibi- 
tion. Under English Royal Binding is CluwrleiL'i 
cojiy of Baker's 'Chronicle of the Kings of Br 
land,' 1«4:<, 7/. 7-. Under Cookery is Wake's 'i 
Hei-meticall Banquet ' (<m p. .35 Shakesiieare's nuM 
is mentione<l). iaV2, l.V. liw. Under Dialling ii 
Samuel Foster's ' Miscellanies.' l&W. 2/. lO. Fortcr 
was famous for inventing and impreving tauq 

1»lanetary instnunonts. Under rnoiuiabulA ■ 
''usebius *l)e Prwi^aratione Evaiigelica,' JaiHBi 
1470, riO/. This is the first Ixjok printed bv Jeiwi* 
and exhibits great l)eauty of tvixjgraphical e 
tion. Among other items we lind Shelton'stk. 
Uition of • Don guixote.' 2 vols, in 1, ie?2-3. 4/. I 
Accoi-ding to .Tarvis. this is the first Er '" 
translation. Tlie twentv-third edition of IK..»«- 
' 1 nie-liorn Englisliman,* Dublin, 1733, is 'k ft/. A 
note states that this edition is not to l>e found '" 
l^>wnde» or Watt. The first edition aiiiieared 
1 m, and "Defoe declares in 170} that nine gi'mriM 
and twelve jiirated wlitions had been printwl «■ 
80,(J00 copies sold in the streets." The third eilitiK 
of St owe. I(>18. is :V. :V<.: and the rare first aliti" 
of Dr. Some's Miodly Treatise, wherein are * 
umincil and confuted manv execrable fancies d«<i 
out and holdcn iwirtly by Henrv Barrow and Job 
Oreenewo<Kl (see 10 S. vi. 118), 1589, 1/. Itt*. 

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Contents. -No. lea 

\ Bfiti«li Nrtnies : their Interpretothm, H'l 
' fiflil, Siuwex, 102— BuilOTJn 
-J'juttornl A«trpnoruy, ¥H 

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hI Rtjiid—nove'i "Shake- 

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UiimjonK' - "Tiie 




d cogrmtc Names. — Mona was the 
JO iHles of Anglesey and Man at 
of the Komaixs. It ^oes back, 
to prehLatorie time. V^ e find the 
icnt in other names^ such as 
Menevia Juteonim (i.c.» Menevia 
)iiis), the ancient name of St, 
South Wales ; Duinnoniuin, 
tianio uf Devonshire, and mean- 
|Ht'8<'ntly appear, the region 
•f r Hide by water; Clack- 
ind ; Mannau Oododin, 
i-hU hterature to what is 
lire; and besides these 

L I 'nt modified forms, in a 

other ;z. I i|.}»ical names, as 
avoxir to :-ii.i\\ 
rcj^ard to tho njcaning, it \s to be 
at th(!i name is always iiaed an a 
or else to designate a portion 
acent to or surroundod by water ; 
instances in which it is bo uBod 
rous as to leave little doubt 

Ei aignifien water. This being 
feted, the next point is to 
what language or languages 



the word ia found with tliis meaning. The 
answer to this is that the nearest existing 
form of a word with this meaning in the 
Norse word vand (wat«r), the Scandinavian 
(nasalize<l) form of the Engliali word imter, 
ivat or vad being the root. Let us eonsider 
what modifications of this form of the word 
wcudd be required to give the form foiuid in 
Mona, Man, and the other instances above 
mentioned. One would be the assimilating; 
of the consonants nd into nti, wliieh ia very 
common in Celtic. Probably this modifica- 
tion of the word ia to be seen in the name 
of Vannes, in Brittany, so called after the 
ancient Veneti, who dwelt on the coast, and 
of whoae skill in navigation and commercial 
enterprise mention ia made by Ciesar. Next 
we know that original v passes frequent] v 
into 7?i, thus giving the form of the word 
seen in Mona, Dumnonium (where du stands 
for the Becond nmneral), Mene\ia. Clack- 
mannan, and the rest. As to the cliange of 
a into o in Mona, it is what is seen when 
man is pronoimced as mon : and in \VeIsh 
words borrowed from Englinili it ahnost 
invariably takes place. And there is another 
modification which the root under considera- 
tion, vat or varf, might undergo, viz., by the 
jn passing into n, which is also very common. 
In this form we meet frequently with it, as 
in the river-names Nith, Neath, Neathey, 
and Nen ; Newnnates (?), ancient name of 
Nantes, in France ; Nantwich (Cheshire) ; 
Bradninch (Devonaliire) ; Dinan (Brittany) ; 
Dinant t Belgium) ; in the word tn-nant, 
occurring in a Gaiilish inscription ; in tlie 
\\'elsh word nant, wliicli always means a 
place whore the water collects ; and onvtt 
more, in the name of the Celtic sea-god 
NodenB, to whom, in the Romano-British 
period, a temple was dedicated in wliat ia 
now South \\'ales, and in the tribal names 
Novantes and Trinovantee {where tho d or t 
of the root is changed into i> ; cf. Latin 
mcdhis and inefiMs), meaning, the former tho 
tribe whose territory was defined by tho 
Nith, and the latter the people of tJie three 
rivers, comparable as a geograpliical dt-Higna 
tion with the Indian Ponjaub. 

Lastly, the initial letter t" of our root 
might be droppetl, aa happens in Greek and 
in Welsh and Norse words. Probably this 
modification ia seen in tho Welsh name 
Olan Adda, or Adda side, and the river- 
name Amian, in Scotland and elsewhere. 
These different modifications of an initial 
t' or w (the digamraa) may be seen b>' com- 
paring English personal pronoim we with 
Greek Iirtneis, Latin nos, and Greek ovda 
with Latin vidi. And ii\ \^ae5vt\^ \ \u«.>j 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [lo s. vn. fo.« 

point out that the change of v into n occurs 
m a great number of Latin and Greek words, 
as in nesoa, island ; Nereids, water divinities ; 
nato, to swim; unda, wave; Neptunua, 
lord of the water. 

It appears, therefore, that the early 
British names Mona, Menevia, Novantes, 
Nith, Neath, Neathey, &c., are all from the 
root vad or vat, and signify tixtter ; and it 
would seem that they were brought into 
Brit€un by the settlers from Belgic Gaul, for 
one of the varieties still survives in Belgium 
in the name Dinant. J. Fabry. 

(To bt continued.) 


James Gage, of Bentley, was one of the 
sons (probably the second son) of Sir John 
Gage, K.G. 

One James Gage married Anne, aged 
36 in 1555, daughter and coheir of Dorothy, 
wife of Sir Henry Owen, and sister €uid 
coheir of Thomas, Lord De la Warre (Cart- 
wright's * Sussex,' ii. 29). I beUeve this to 
have been James Gage of Bentley, and the 
lady to have been nis second wife. He 
seems to have married as his first wife 
Jane, daughter of James Delves, of Bent- 
ley, Sussex, and widow of John Bellingham, 
of Erington, Sussex (Nichols's ' Leicester- 
shire,' iii. 149; Gage's * Hengrave,' 231). 
He died 12 Jan., 1572/3, leaving one Uryth 
or Urth his widow, and four sons : (1) Ed- 
ward, (2) John, (3) James, (4) Robert (Sussex 
Rec. Soc, iii. 8). 

Edward, his heir, married Margaret, 
daughter of Jolm (not WilUam) Shelley, 
of Michelgrove (cf. 10 S. iv. 56). There is 
an odd divergence in the published accounts 
of their monument in Framfield Church, and 
perhaps some Sussex retwier of ' N. & Q.' 
will grve a full description of it. According 
to the Rev. H. R. Hoare {Sussex Arch. Coll., 
iv, 296-7), "behind him are three sons, 
behind her five daughters, above are their 
names." On the other hand, the Rev. E. 
Turner says {ibid., xxiii. 159) that the brass 
has " the figures of a man and a woman and 
of their six children upon it " ; and that the 
first half of the inscription runs : — 

"Here lyeth the btxly of Edward (iajjc, Kwi', 
ftiul Margaret his wife (daughter of Sir [/tic] Jolin 
iShelley, of Michelgrove), who liad three sons and 
Keveii daughters, and died Anno D'ni 1505." 
Tlie three sons and one of the daughters 
appear to have predeceased their father. 
Tne six surviving daughters, together with 
their mother, are given in the pedigree in 

Harl. Soc. Publ., liii. 9, to their 1 
cousin John, eldest son of Sir Edwarc 
K.B., of Firle ; and in Gage's * Hec 
(p. 237) and in Burke's ^Peerage 
mother is represented as wife of tJ 
Sir Edward's fifth son Edward, and 
of his children John and Ehzabeth. 1 
Foley (• Records S.J.,' v. 78) suppo 
tomb to be that of Edward Gage of 

Of the six surviving daughters, (1 
married John Crispe, of (&e, Susse 
Dorothy, whose name also occurs ac 
married Thomas Alcock (whom 
' Sussex Genealogies,' 294, c«dls A 
of Rampton, Cambs, who in April, 
had been about 32 weeks in the Mar 
for recusancy (Strjrpe, * Ann.,' iv. 
(3) Margaret married G«orge Smyth, 
Bishopric of Durham. (4) Mildred r 
Augustine Belson, of Stokenchurch, 
a recusant (' Cal. S. P. Dom., 1598 
p. 524), and surviving him died ii 
aged 49, and wa« buried at Clapham, 
(Cartwright, ' Sussex,' ii. 86). (5) P 
married Andrew Bendlowes, of Esse 
a recusant (* Cal. S. P.,* foe. cit.). (6 
beth married Anthony Skinner, of B 
ton, Warwickshire, who received lic< 
go beyond the seas with his family on 
1606 ('Cal. S. P. Dom. Add., 1580 
p. 486). 

In 1576 Edward Gage was a maj 
of Sussex suspected of Popery (1 
* Ann.,' II. ii. 22). He appeared bef 
Council 11 Aug., 1580, in accordam 
some previous judgment, and on ti 
was committed to the Marshalsea (* P 
N.S., xii. 150, 153). As one of the exi 
of the Earl of Southampton's will 
liberated on bail for a short time 2( 
1581, and his leave of absence was rep 
extended {ibid., xiii. 93, 296, 376). B 
back to the Marshalsea after June 
and was there on the following 23rd of 
In September, 1586, he was at liberl 
entertained on the 8th a seminary 
Nicholas Smith, afterwards a Jesui 
at this time was residing with Lady 
at Galton.* The priest was arrest 
next day, through the instrumenU 
the apostate Anthony Tyrrell, an( 
mitted to the Clink on 11 September 
he still was in the following July. ] 
Gage followed him to the Clink on tl 

*See Foley, 'RecoMs S. J.,' vol. viL 
1451. He was nephew of one Kmytlie. M 
is iirobaWy the Richard Smith, M D 
Munk's 'R. Coll. of Phys.,' vol. i. p. 67 * 
Smith was also uncle to the Bishoi) of C 
CD.N.B.,' liii. 102). * °'^' 

IL ntu. 0, ijw:.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

tho 23r(i lift<l been tranaferred to 
Dter m Woocl Strtft, whence he was 
loii on hail on 17 X ' ; (Cath. 

c,, it. 268, -ifiS, 209. ; * Cal. 

ora., 1581^90/ p. 35^ J. m 1392 he 
the cnatody of Mr. Kichard Shelley, 
• ' • named an executor of the 
count Montague, he was 
..._i. . .. OQ bad t* P. C. A.,' N.S., 
xxiv. 17, 149; 'Cal. Ceod MSS.,' 
bout thiii time two priesta, Mr. 
Mr, Croket (Ralph Crocket tho 
th another whose narae has not 
wei'e always resident at 
J. P. Dora. EUz.,' ccxH. 35). 
Gage's brother John and nephew 
_ Wornilev, Hertfordshire, were 
MsauU* (' Cal.' Cecil MSS.,^ iv, 265 ; 
WP. Uom. Io98-1601.' p. 524), On 
h in 1 595 the latter succeeded 
He married Clare, sister to 
ndlowcs above mentioned, and 
g licenced with his famdy to go 
company with liis cousin Eliza- 
and her Inwband. He died at 
Sept., 1628 (Cath. Rec. Soc, i. 
JoHX B. Waixewright. 


Kn, 181. 222, 2t^3, 322, 441 : xii. 
mp2, 301, 3iV2, 442 ; 10 S. h 42. 163. 
K; ii. J 24, '223. 442; iii. 203; iv. 
V. 146 ; vi. 143.) 

iring are a few more additions 


^ of * The iVrmuncnt of the Frontis- 
t^8. xii. 2} ui tlio third edition, where 
■but appi'ar. m 

^Blle vill cloe the AAtiit!! iiK'^iii- 

K I (Shill.) ; 3. 1. 7 (cd. G) (10 S, iv. 

HhP frrur by which '* a *' is inserted 

** Mrnibcr '* does not occur earlier 


in. 9; 5. Q. a, '* Anatomie of 

_. (10 S. IV, 524; v. 146; vi. 

Donne'ft * .\n Anatomy of the 

wi., UU I (see Grosm*t*s ed. 

roems/ *'Tlie FuUt^r 

vol. i. p. 1021. The 

' T", ', ;i ^ '■ '"yt' 

I irst 

.» 'ii lilt mijuanurized 

Jrif F'lowrr** hoimde vp 

iie ' 11 57-.*^ '■ a more 

For iiienais" 

lPuxu>hi ...-. 

F. 20, 7 ; 6, 33 (10 S. iv. 525), For 1617 
read 1017^18. 

P. 21, 2; 7, 9 (10 S. iv. 525). Burton's 
error in quoting as lovius's tho words from 
Alciatua'a e))ist. at the Im : ' _^ of tlie 
1553 (Paris) ed. of tfie ' f ' h^^ ^ 

parallel on p. 183 of vol. u. y^,yi^j, t-d. 6, II. 
iii. iii.), where 

diiTit itereiittfM 
Stctumatn iioa jicntiiru MiiMie 

is quoted with the raarg. ref. " Marullu.'?." 
it is not by MaruUus, but forms the conclu- 
sion of a poem in three alcaic stanzas headed 
' De Marullo, 'Jiodpioi,' and signed F. 
Thorius Bellio {i.e., Franciscus Thoriua, of 
Bailleul), wh^ich may be read in the edition of 
Marullus's poems printed at Paris in 1561, 
with a dedication to Thorius by Guilielmus^ 

P. 21, n. 15 : 7. n. m (9 S. xii. 443). For 
** 8cripturicnt[i)um " read scripturkntum, 

P. 29, 1. 6 and n. 1 ; 11, 1. 38 and n. d., 
'* Nicholas Car" (9 S. xiL 62). Here again 
our author makes a similar error to that 
pointed out above. The words in the not© 
are not Carr's, but belong to an extract from 
' Richardus Vernaiinis in Methodo Oeo- 
graphica' printed by Thomas Hatcher on- 
fol. l'6 verso of liis ed. of Carr's oration * Be 
Scriptoriuu Britanniconini i paucitate, et 
studiorum impedi- | mentis,' 1576: — 

*' H«K.^ bt'tn'ticio [».'•., tho i>rt:Heiioe of Titprniraitht 
f.ntditi] CArent Anglj, (jui hi i|iii(| etinm k'otn nuji 
iiirliiinmni iieiiertrint. cum tmiic^w hn^K4ut Ty]>o- 
grapKos, et eo« aut mrtin sua* i»rursns inHi-ios. nut 
litiivRtui n\A)^n vX Hiiaritjiw mmni IJtoi-arum jn-ofectiii 
stutleiitt's, cotrnntuv," Ao. 

With '* that so many flourishing wits are 
smothered in oblivion, ly dead and bimed,*'' 
may be compared a jjassago in Erasmus's 
' De Utilitate CoUoquiorum ' : '* Nisi in- 
numera feliciasima ingenia per istos in- 
felicissiine sepelirentiu* ac defoderentur viva "^ 
over one-third through the piece, p. 774 
ia 1729 v<iriorum ed. of the ' CoUoquia.' 

P. 31, n. 6 and n. 7 ; 13, n. p. and n. q., 
" Pet. Nannius. . . .* Non hie colonus,' " &c. 
(10 S. i. 42). The ref. to the original efl. is 

f}. 133 of X.'s '^vnpLiKTMv siue Miscel- | 
aneorvun decas | vna ' (Louvain, 1548), 
dedicated to William Paget, Chancellor for 
the Duch\' of Lancaster, afterwards Baron 
Paget of Beaudesert. 

P, 43, n. 3 : 20, n. p., *' Anaxagoras olini 
mens d ictus ah antiquis." The rendering 
of Til lion's lines given by Cobet is, I find, 
not that of Anibrogir» Traversari (10 S. i. 
203). though his trans, of Diog. Laert. is a 
revision of A. T.'s. 

P. 43, n. 4 ; 20, n. q., " Regula naXvaiaa^^ 


NOTES AND QUERIES. [lo s. vu. pb.^ 

<10 S. i. 163). The exact reference to Aver- 
roes is fol. 169 recto, col. 1, 1. 11 from foot, 
vol. vi. (1650) of the Venice (" apud luntas ") 
•ed. of Aristotle in Latin with a Latin version 
of Averroe6*8 commentaries ; * De Anima/ 
lib. iii. summa 1, cap. 2, 

" ci-edo enim quod iste homo fuerit regiila in iiatura, 
A exemplar, quod uatura inuenit ud demonstrandum 
vltimam i)ertectionem humanam in materijs." — 
Tom. vi. Part i. fol. 150 verso, 1. 6 of the I'iSQ ed. 

P. 43, U; 20, 29, "Nulla ferant," &c. 
<10 S. i. 282; vi. 144). See Bessarion's 
^Aduersus calumniatorem Flatonis,' lib. i. 
<}ap. iii., about four-ninths through, 1. 19 of 
foL 21 verso in the Roman ed. of 1469 
^Sweynheym & Fannartz) : — 

" Quid autem grcci senserint : inprimis ab ipso 
Aristotele licet intelligere. Hie cum in problema- 
tibus quereret : cur hi cjui in philosophia uel 
poetioa uel liberalibus disoiplinis : uel etiam reipub. 
administratione claruerunt: melancholici fuennt: 

i>ost<iuam enumeratis plerisque antiquis ad iuniores 
lescendit: Emi)edoclis: et Platonis fc Sooratis 
«xemplo usus est. C^uin etiam preclaram orationem 
de laudibus Platonis conscripsit : ut Olympiodorus 
rcfert. Et in elegiis ad Eudemum heo de Platone 

Cecropis ad claras uenerat ustiue domos 

Dulcis amicicie mox illi condidit aram 

Ouem laudare nephas ora prophana foret 

Qui solus : uita : dootrina moribus : ore 

Admonuit cunctos : et monumenta dedit 

Vt uirtute <iueant felioem ducere uitam 

Nulla ferent talem secla futura uiruni." 

Though 01ympiodoru8*s schoha on the 

"* Gorgias ' were not printed until 1848, by 

Albert Jahn in Supplement-band xiv. (the 

lines are on p. 395) of the ' Neue Jahrbiicher 

fiir Philologie und Fadagogik ' (Leipzig, 

founded by J. C. Jahn), yet the seven Greek 

verses had been given by M6na^e in his 

■* Observationes ' on Diogenes Laertius (hb. v. 

i. 12, 27), p. 116 in the ed. at the end of the 

London Diog. Lciert. of 1664. Neither 

Manage, nor Bergk (* Foet. Lyr. Gr.,' ii., 

1882, p. 336), nor Heitz ('Fragmm. Aris- 

totelis,* p. 334), nor Jahn, nor Rose (' Aris- 

totelis qui ferebantur librorum Fragmenta,' 

1886, p. 421), mentions the occurrence in 

Bessarion of the Latin rendering. " The 

four lines " at 10 S. vi. 144, col. 2, 1. 5, should 

ibe the last four lines. Edwabd Bensly. 

University College of Wales, Al)ery8twyth. 

{To be cojUinned.) 

^-? Pastoral Astronomy. — ^While yet under 
the charm of *Le8 iStoiles,' the narrative 
of a Froven9al shepherd, given by Alphonse 
Daudet in * Lettres de mon MouUn,' it 
occurs to me to ask whether British watchers 
of the '* flocks by night " have stories of 
the stars resembling those ^ich Daudet 

found in some * Armana Froven^eM 
put into the mouth of his hero. Ther 
probably contributed to the abnan 
Fr6d6ric Mistrid, who embodies then 
conversation with a shepherd in the eli 
chapter of his * M^moires et R^its.* 
hardly possible that our own pastors < 
gaze upon the stars and speculate as t 
nature and on the reason of their dii 
tion in the heavens. There is pn 
much folk-lore current in the fra< 
which, as far as I know, and that is nc 
far, is still imrecorded. Here are th< 
ven9al examples : — 

"Juste au-dessus de nous, voilj^ le Che 
aaiiU Jacques (la voie lact^). H va de Franc 
Bur TEsmgne. C'est saint Jacques de iinX 
I'a trace i»our montrer sa route au brave ' 
magne lorsqu'il faisait la guerre aux Saj 
Plus loin, vous avez le Char des dmes (la 
Oursc) avec ses r]uatre essieux rraplendissant 
trois ^toiles qui vont devant aont les Trot 
et cette toute petite contre la troisi^me < 
Gharretier. Voyez-vous tout autour cett« 
d etoiles qui tombcnt? oe sont les ftmes dont 

Dieu ne veut pas chez lui Unpen plus ba 

le Bateau ou les Trovi rots (Orion). Cest 
nous sert d'horloge, k nous autres. Rien qu 
regardant, je sais maintenant qu'il est miniut 
Un i)eu plus bas, toujours vers le midi, brill 
(le Milan, le flambeau des astres (Sinus). Sa 
^toile-li, voici ce que les ber^rs reconte 
l>arait qu'une nuit Jean de Mtlan avec les 
rois et la P&nsitiiilere (la Pl^iade) furent in' 
la noce d'une ^toile de leurs amies. La Poti^ 
plus presw^e, partit, dit-on, la premiere, et 
ohemm haut. Re^ardcz-la, U-fiau^ tout ai 
du ciel. Les Trots rois coui>6rent plus bat 
rattraperent, mais ce paresseux de Jean de. ^ 
qui avait dormi troj) tard, resta tout k fait de 
et furieux, pour les arrdter leur jeta son 
C'eat i>ournuoi les Trois rois s'appellent ai 

BAton do Jean de Milan Mais la jilus be 

toutes les ^toiles, niattrcsse, o'est la notre, 
VEioUf. dn berger, (lui nous 4claire k Taube. < 
nous sortons le troupeau, et aussi le soirquaiM 
le rentrons. Nous la nommons encore Maaut. 
la belle Maguelonne qui court apr^ Pier 
Prorence (Saturn) et se marie avec lui tous 1« 
ans."— Pi>. 60-6*2. 

Valuable notes on the Great and the 1 
Bear and on the Milky Way are ston 
the first three volumes of Milusin 
gather there that while, perhaps, in 
lands, *' the seven stars ** are regeurded 
wain or other wheeled vehicle, in Vit 
they are looked upon as being a satu 
watched by the star which is to be 
near the end of the handle. When 
saucepan boils this scullion will take it 
the fire, and then the end of the world 
come. In the United States the com 
tion is called the Dipper, i.e., the £ 
I believe that our people speak of it ■ 
Plough. St. Swiss 

fmi. 9. iwT] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


rr.QUE " : its E-ri^MOLOOY. — In the 
V (ante, p. 68) of the last section of the 
D.,* me^Uquft a term applied to the 
eochtneal« is said to be of obicure 
^^I should like to suggest tliat it ia 
H| corrupt or hispanicized form of the 
■■me Mix tec, familiar to readers of 
ott. In Rees'a * Cyclopaedia,' 1819, 
CGrhineal/ there is a sentence which 

theory : — 
^. Med (Mw-htiifAl, callefl also mrttitfur 

HLixicuii jiroviuoe of timt name, is the 
^■^rIoh' and iin>gjew\X' iminovemcnt iu 
IVvf the wild foclnneal/' 

U be perceived that the name of the 
ace is not precisely stated. We may, 
ik. safely assume it to be Mixtecapan, 
ruviuce of the Mixtecs, who were an 
n race allied to that remarkable people 
!apoteC8, who have given to Mexico 
Of her greatest statesmen. 

Jas. Platt, Jun. 

DB8POTA." — Mr. Ralph Thomab in a 
ipon Mr. King's book sayB {ante, p. 25), 
eference to the title given by Mr. King 

Vonymoua quotations: " 1 do not 
th can be said in favour of * Ades- 
May I be allowed to say that I 
a great deal may be aaid in its favour ? 
•iotis editions of the Greek ' Anthologj^ ' 
YTov — hterally, without master, owner- 
is the proper term for a piece the author 
lich is unknown. The word ia use<l 
itarch in this sense. I cannot see why 
pota * should not be used in Enghah 
fterary sense, just as ' Anecdota ^ and 
ecta ' Bxe ao used. A. L. Mayhew. 

Iavd the Rose.— Most of us when 
rere familiar with Watts's ' Divine 
[Gfal Songs/ and probably many will 
aber how infelicitously Capt. Cuttle 
latbor of the motto of ' N. Ifc Q.') 
A th e one on the sluggard in his delight 
^^- again the voice of liis old friend 
I wftli, however* to refer to the 
Hg to the rose, wliich begins : — 
|i» tin.' rtiNt" ! wlmt k litsitutiful flciwci- ! 
r rif A]>ril and Nfuy. 

I fintt linr all will agree ; the rose 

^xUy the queen of flowers, and 

JliO jpraisc>s which the poets 

But it ifl essentially, 

iier flower : June is 

^ Rnd rarely is it to be 

at of d" ' r. 

i,^ T ■.^M«' i^^^rhaps 
Id rror 

(vol. iii. p. 203), where we are told not only 
that " rose *' is doriv-ed from the Greek /k><Soi', 
but that that word means red. We have, 
indeed, the Greek adjective ^^to^, but that 
comes, like our word '* rosy," from the rose, 
not the rose from it. W. T. Lykn, 


(See ante^ p. 25.) — The tracing of this quota- 
tion to its Greek source in a fragment of 
Euripidra has been sufficiently iSiown in 
3 S. V. 260, 307, 444; but it had been 
observed earlier in a characteristic note by 
Archdeacon Wrangham in his edition of Dr. 
Thomas Zouch's ' Works,' 1820. vol. i. 
pp. xiii, xiv. I recorded at 10 S. vi. 480 ita 
use by Henry Cornelius Agrijipa, and I have 
a memorandum that it occiu-a in tlie dedica- 
tion of Schrevelius's ' Juvenal.* It appears 
on the title-page of Chamberlavne's * Preaent 
State,' 1684, the ' Wliitaker'-s Almanack' 
of that time ; but it is perhaps most familiar 
to English readers by being quoted in Ed- 
mund Burke's ' Reflections on the Revolu- 
tion in France' (ed. Daly, 1841, p. 181), 
where he terms it "" a rule of profoimd sense." 

W. C. B. 

" Carhvikg coai^ to Newcastle " : 
Error in Ruffhead. — In Ruffhead's ' Sta- 
tutes at Large,' 1769, vol. i. p. 516, the 
statute 9 Hen. V. s. i. e. 10 is headed *' Keels 
that carry Sea-Coals to Newcastle shall bo 
measured and marked." Whether the 
phrase quoted above was in use or not in 
1769 I do not know, but RufThcod's curious 
title did not state the effect of the Act 
correctly. He should have written at 
instead of *' to.'"* A customs due of 2rf. 
was jiayable to the king on every chaldron 
sold to people not francluHed in the port of 
the town of Newcastle-on-Tyne. The keels 
by which the coals were carried from the 
land to ships in the port were assessed to a 
portage of 20 clialdrona each ; but larger 
ones had been built, with the result that the 
king was cheated of his flues. Hence the 
provisions for martdng and measiuing. 

R. S. B. 

[Tlie late Mk. F. Adams quoted at 8 S. ii, 484 ait 
iimtancu of the use of the itroverU befoit* 1614. 8m5 
also 4 S. vi. i«»; J S. xi. 48fi ; S S. iii. 17, 136; 9 S. 
%\. 49r».l 

Falling Birdcaoe and III Luck. — The 
SUindard for 4 January contained the- 
following : — 

"While Mr**. Ihinti. a ludniiiK-house keeper, uf 
Aldershot, M-ns workinu in her wash -hmiM' ttii 
Boxiriu l>av, her vtme<\ Klaokhirtl foil duwii. Shr 
t<x>k it t4» fx' an omen of ill hink, an<l it mt HtTfctMcl 
her that »he wvnt all over the hovxafc W wit \l Wvcvv^ 


NOTES AND QUERIES. Uo s. vn. fm. 1. 1 

was anything wrong. She difiCo\'ered that aliont 
tour i)ound8' worth of clothes and jewellery had 
l)een stolen from her bedroom, and susiiicion falling 
iijion two of her lodgers who had left suddenly that 

*lay, the ])olioe were informed. The pair were 

charged at the Hants Quarter Sessions yesterday 
with the offence." 

Habby Hems. 
Fair Park, Exeter. 

*' Boz-POLE." — I do not find this word in 
any dictionary, but it is in the following 
paragraph, which appeared in The Weekly 
Journal, or British CfazeUeer, for Saturday, 
18 January, 1718 : — 

" Last Sunday, as the Lord Bi8lu)i» of York went 
to preach at St. Anne's in Blaokfryers, his Coach 
4>ver-set behind Ludgate-Prison, occasioned by the 
Prisoners taking in their Boz-Pole, to make room ; 
and lettinff it fall l>etwixt the Coach and the Coach- 
man, put his Grace into some surprize, but did no 
either Damage than that of breaking the Glasses, 
■which made his (inice walk a-foot to the Church." 

That it should have been a " Boz " who 
'Called such striking public attention to the 
aufterings of the poor prisoners" in the 
Fleet as to ensure their redress adds interest 
to this particular word. 

Alfred F. Robbins. 

" To GO TO POT." — This phrase appears 
to have meant, in some instances at least, 
*' to go to prison " : — 

^' When great Rogues are in Authority, and have 
the Laws against m)j)res3ion and Robbery in their 
<)\ni Hands, little ThicA'es only go to Pot fort ; and 
inferior Pirates are punish'd with Death at the 
GallowH. while those of superior Orb. or lii"st Rate 
Offenders, live safe and successful at the Helm of 
<iovernment.''- 'Knglish Proverbs with Moral Re- 
flexions." by Oswald Dykes, 2nd ed., ITOf), p. 36, 

* One Man had Ijetter steal a Horse, than another 
look over a Hedge.' 

" All plotting against the Lives, or the (iovern- 
nients of Princes, is but playing the Fool at the 
best. Plots for the most Part miscany, and then 
the Plotters are sure to 1>e soundly hamper'd, or to 
go to Pot for their Pains in the Discovery." ///iV/., 
I>. 142. in the reflexion on ' Harm watch, Harm 

Jamieson's * Scottish Dictionary ' has " Pot, 
Pott, a pit ; a dungeon," and gives a quota- 
tion from Douglas's ' Virgil,' 108, 16, in 
which is the following : — 

Deip in the soroufull grisU* hellis pot. 

Robert Pierpoint. 

HoRNSEY Wood House : Harringay 
House : Highgate. — As the object of 

* N. & Q.' is to prevent the perpetuation of 
«rror £is well as to record valuable items of 
knowledge, I beg leave to call attention to 
the following blunder in the Christmas 
Supplement of The Homsey and Finsbury 
PoTK Journal, 14 Dec., 1906, so that when 

futiu-e references are made for the jpur 
of topographical information, searchen 
not be confused or misled. The a 
which is signed W. B., is headed * Hart 
Past and Present,' and a picture is ] 
duced from a print published in 1809, 
the following remarkable descriptioi: 
fanciful variants : — 

"Harringv, Harringay, Harringee, Harri 
Harnesey, Harnsey, Homsey House. 

*' This was a noted house of entertainment 
stood towards Harringay, and near to the ] 
lake in Finsbury Park." 

The latter part is correct. The p 
represents old Homsey Wood House, 
had no more connexion with Han 
: House than St. Paul's Cathedral has 
the Alhambra in Leicester Square, 
two places were entirely distinct. 

Hcirringay House stood at the back 
Green Lanes, on the eastern side of th 
way, behind Hornsey Station and soi 
Homsey Chm*ch. It was built on tl 
; of a fine old Tudor mansion, pulled 
: about 1750, and Mr. Lloyd in liis ' H 
of Highgate ' (which see) says it was th 
of the family of Cozens for 200 years, 
property was (a portion of it, if not i 
that interest for nearly four cent 
Harringay House was rebuilt or reno 
about 1793. It has never been knov 
any other name, and the nomenclatu] 
not arise early enough for any variani 
to have been \ised. 

Homsey Wood House was so call 
1791 in the Burial Register of Hoi 
In 1764 the sign of the tavern was 
Horns " (see Wroth' s ' London Pl( 
Gardens,' 1896, p. 169). In 1735 it 1 
synon5^^nous name to its ancient one of 
but it had nothing to do with ** Harri 
' &c. 

In 1200 the present Harringav is 
"Haringue"; in 123L " Harengh 
(Feet of Fines) ; and in 1244, " Harec 
(Pat. Roll 28 Hen. lU.). There are nia 
less other variants, but in no case h; 
foimd the double consonant used in 
reliable document until 1402, and thai 
an exceptional instance. 

In 'The Story of Hornsey,' by I 

Sherington, 1904, p. 16, it is said : 

earliest of all records the name is Harin^ 

; dn enclosure of the field of hares." 1 

; frequently challenged this statement, \ 

has not an iota of truth in it. 

Under the same initials W. B., those < 

compiler of * Harringay Past and Pm 

were reproduced in The Homsey J<m 

, Supplement, 10 Dec., 1904, two photog 

Ftn. 11. i«77.j NOTES AND QUERIES. 


I ' Soutli Grove, Highgatc' and 
Jill, High gate.* Neither was for- 
Imost every inhabitant knew- : Imt 
Itcly strangers do not, and the 
^of the error in the ropv filed 
' aaper Room of the British 



rwiueft corresjiondenta deeiriin* in- 

t,.....i. V ■♦ff'rsof only priviitiji hitert'.st 
nldresscs to their «jueriea, 
'. Iw? Willi to them threct. 

Paintino. — I want information 
I con remerahor that there was 

so cftllcKl in vogne about 18i>0. 
^tute forgotten what it was. I t'lud 
ing references : — 

ly//iM*r. |i. 27*2: "To F/aflifR. Tli^ r<xiniih i 

RUimTJor slvlf. Lrtdie.^ instiuotofl in the i 

\,+ ..,..,.f (,y,. with H vuriety of i 

U\\ \Vork«." 

s Kouk,' -Ml!): "A i«ieoe 1 

•IJcr. ■)ll Jimtiulartiirr. whifh ! 

behtAticii IS P.M>rii»)j-jirt|wi." I 

_pk«Tiiy. M „ , h-Ji«M>k' (lHtH»), ir>:^: 

fc cttllefl ' n»e/yj(iiiiitM,' pencil tlrmringfi* 
fctntiniT'*." rtnd whnt not, 

r KoimkI the Clock." 17P: *'An 

imirsi^t silver grit|ie-Mei!*jior», u , 
,1 1' >r>!ir-ni:k'lie worktio.v.iui 
.Ik " 

/iii/frtiii, IL 4M: -If 

jotif, il tiiay >Ki ntipljcfl by usittK 

! hnir or ]Mx<nah ohar«t;il with 

f tluB. the word does not, so far as I | 
in any dictionary', and is even 1 
, missed by ' The Encyelop«?dJa 
atifl 77(» Ttmcji Supphniient. 
fing and poonali 
<li brtish ? Speedy 
ito detitred. " . 

J. A. H. MtTBRAV. I 

THE Weabel.'— I hhould be ' 
|ny information as to th<» on>rin. i 
' tid dote of thi* phrawe, bh applied 
ncH? or otherwise. 1 can di.-<tinct!> I 
jws-Mng. some time in the Hfties, ' 
'ncial tntisiesoller'fl rataloKue, the ' 
tjf " Tlu"* new country daner^ 
-1/ introduced by Her ; 
ria : t ho new [some 
,',' intro- 
I 1 1 II Ilk, jiitnut tlie 
■''Tt, but thp tiiiiii was 
iiiui 1 11 lie whi;*tled or yelled 

about the streets, and it wa& the august 
patronage ascribed to it that tixed the 
advertisement in my mind. VVasi the phiase 
introduced with the dance, or Imd it any 
previous history ? Has any one a dated eo)>y 
of the original dance music 7 I shall be t hank- 
ful for prompt answers, or indications where 
they can be seen in print. 

J. A. H, Murray, 
[Much lia« axn*arefl in * N. A' Q.' on tht- sonjj, 
which waf? ]irinted in full nt 10 S. iv. 20H hy Mu. 
AnAtu FiTZ-(iKic\i<t>. L. L. K. ininteil in tin" .same 
nuniher Home viM-ses n-lhulinir t-o the Queen's )»«iTron- 
ajje oi the (hinoe. See also II) S. iii. iWl : iv. ."4. | 

Addison ajnd Col. Philip Dormur. — 
In Addison's ' Campaign.* publishe<l 14 Dec,, 
1704, are the following lines (3«i1»-l4) : — 

I) Dormer, how i?aii I U-hohl thy tiile. 

And not the wontlerr* ul thy ytmth rehite I 

How can 1 s(:e the Krtv, the hnave, the >T>tni):. 

Fall in the (»hiiul of war. nod lie luisiuiu ! 

In joy.s <>l" conf|iief*t he I'eHijrnM his hrefttn, 

And, Hlled with Enshmd'M glory, .smile.i in death. 
In the London Daihj Courant, 21 Aug., 1704, 
is the following notice : — 

"We have received h li.^t of the English "tfioei's 

kiUed and wounded in the hitttle t»f lilenheini 

Of the<inar*ds» Oil Phili)» Dormer, killed.* 
What were Addison's relations with Dormer ? 
(Jf all the English oHieer^^ who fell at Blen* 
heitn, why should Col. Dormer tdone l»e 
mentioned in ' The Campaign ' ? 

At 3 S. xii. '200 appears an inquirj- con- 
cerning the hisfcorj' of Dormer's " youthful 
deeds. I cannot ftnd that this inquiry' 
was ever answered. Possibly a new genera- 
tion of readers may be able to throw some 
light on Dormer's career. 

Edward B. Reeid. 

Vtde University, Xew Huven, Conn., U.S.A. 

Xevvbolds of Derbyshire. — ^In the six- 
teenth and seventeenth centuries thei-e 
existed in the district south of Sht-Hield and 
nortli of Chesterfield many families of this 
name, of wliieh a few later attained some 
loeal importatice. 1 am especially inter- 
I'sttMl in the Newbolds of Xewbold, parish of 
Chept Tlield, an 1 the Newbolds of Hacken- 
tin>i*]»e lHackingthor]>e), parish of Beighton, 
both in Derbyshire, These fatnilie.«* are now, I 
believe, extinct in that district. Much infor- 
matiou relating to them and their descend- 
ants in America is already in my possetssion. 
1 should like to receive more, and shoidd 
also be ^jlad to ontcir into conimiuvication 
with English descendants, if any yet survive. 

I should also be grateful for any informa- 
tion It-ading to the discovery of manor rolls, 
deeds, and other records relating to the 
manors of Newbold and Beighton, c.o. 
Derby, and Handswortb, co. XotV„ \ \vtwo 


NOTES AND QDERIES. no s. vil fbb. i m 

been able to discover no rolls of Beaton 
save the few preserved in the Record Office. 
Wk. Bosiaine Newbou). 
University of Peniwylvania, Philadelphia, U.S. A. 

Latin Pronunciation in England. — 
As to the head masters at their le^ Con- 
ference very wisely determined to adopt 
the continental pronunciation of Latin in 
English schools, the question is being dis- 
cussed whether Latin was ever in England 
Sronounced in the continental way. Kash- 
all (in his 'Universities in the Middle 
Ages,' vol. ii. p. 594) states authoritatively 
tl^t in the fifteenth century Englishmen 
then pronounced Latin in the continental 
way ; Dr. Caius is cited as an authority for 
the statement that the melancholy chanse 
took place in his time. It is incredible, 
indeed, that Erasmus should have found 
Iiimself able to converse with such facilitv 
with the University authorities in England, 
had he not found that they spoke Latin in 
the same way as himself. Coryat in his 
* Crudities,' written at the end of the six- 
teenth century, liunents the fact that he 
found himself unable to make himself under- 
stood when he spoke Latin in Italy, and sets 
forth explicitly the differences in the pro- 
nunciation of the two nations. This was 
at the beginning of the seventeenth century. 
But Erasmus about 1500 talks freely with 
More, Grocyn, Linacre, and Colet, €uid it 
seems certain that Latin was the means of 
communication between them. Indeed, 
Erasmus finds himself obliged to apologize 
to one of his Dutch correspondents for writ- 
ing in Latin, alleging as an excuse his 
imperfect acquaintance with hie own lan- 
guage. Milton taught Elwood the Quaker to 
pronounce Latin with the Italian pronuncia- 
tion, saying that it was most important to 
learn this pronunciation in order to be able 
to converse with foreigners. 

Herbert A. Strong. 
University, LiverjKwI. 

[Much on the subject has ah-cady appeared iu 
*N. &Q.' See 7 S. xi. 484; xii. 38, 149, 209,2ft5; 
8 S. vi. 146, 253, 489 ; 9 S. vii. 351, 449.] 

" Haze." — It is remarkable that the 
origin of haze^ a mist, and of the adjective 
hazy, is wholly unknown. Dr. Murray shows 
that the adjective actually occurs in English 
earlier than the substantive. His eaniest 
quotation is dated 1625, the sentence being : 
**The weather beeing thicke and hawatyj 
the winde high." 

I have oiuv just observed a remarkable 
passage in the Bremen 'Worterbuch' of 
1767, which seems to show that we certainly 

borrowed the word from Low Gcnisn; 
perhaps it was picked up by our saikniaa 
German port. In vol. ii. p. 601 of th* 
remarkable work, we read that the ^aj 
Haae means, in the first place, a hare ; nd 
fjecondly, a stocking, like our Enghsh AM 
But there is a third sense, used only in wj 
phrase " de Hase brouet," i.e., the **Hi« 
brews. I translate the whole sentence, ■ 
it is material : — 

"/>'' Hoit hroiief. Me aay, when in snminer.i 
eventide, a thick cloud saddenly iqireads itself ow 
the earth, that does not rise high above the mn 
but looks, at a distance, like water. A ««* 
thick white cloud ia also called Haze in En^in. 

This is surely a statement which requin 
examination. It is repeated, in siznili 
terms, imder the verb hrouen, to brew, voLi 
p. 145. We there find : — 

" De HaMc brovef is said of a certain cloud, dl 
Buddenly rises thickly on the surface of the eaitk. 
What I desire to know is whether the rfmi 
is still current in Low German ; and if i| 
whether Haae means " a hare," or " a stod 
ing," or anything else ; and how dew 
Hase brew ? Walter W. Skeac 

' BiBLiOTHECA Stapfobdiensis.* — ^In IN 
through Mr. A. C. Lomax, jprinter, of lid 
field, 1 published the * Bibhotheca StafbB 
iensis ' in two sizes, viz., royal 4 to M 
imperial 8vo. Since then, as opportunj 
has permitted, I have been coUectm^ MJ 
tioned matter, which it is proposed to msoB' 
a supplementary volume, so as to comjU 
to date. ^ 

Remembering with pleasure and thann 
ness the assistance yourself and your ocn 
spondents gave whilst I was compiling 1 
said work, I appeal once again that I inior 
permitted to avail myself of the pagM 
* N. & Q.' to make some inqiiiries, and 
bespeak the help (which has hitherto In 
so cheerfully given) of your mnmerous « 
tributors ; and I feel confident that I m 
not appeal in vain. 

May I be permitted to state that cflf 
of the * Bibliotheca ' are in many UbwO 
and to beg that any one doing me the h€il 
to reply will first look over the volum*' 
as to see its general scope ? 

Having made the above remarks, I * 
now outlme my wants. ^ 

1. Any information relative to any pcj 
bom, sometime resident in, or taking ^ 
from any portion of Sta£Eordahire. 

2. Bibliographical particulars relati' 
any publication (no matter on what lO 
made by such persons, additional to 

, is already in the book. 



and addreaaes of StaSordefaire- 

lan of local newspapers, maga- 

broadsidea, or other transitory 

connected with the county, 

printings of tho following or other 

' after each name is only approxi- 

^ ae of these printerB were prooably 

It eaiiierf as they certunly were later 

FiiwT List, 
Burton-on-Trent, \ML 
l&Son, Hanley, I7JW. 



blMon ., ISm. 

I „ 1853. 

_%\em, 1«03,— He was of Bank Top, 

jjames, Haaley, 1817. 


r. 1818. 

•. \mt. 

. ;i. 1S18. 

fAdnin*, Utuixeter. 1834. 

j ,, Bnrton-on-Trent, 1841. 

»Y 1 ] '-hf>otime. — Anythiiijr on 

kAmpton, 1852. 
urge, tijlvtoiiiule. 18K1 
ii W., Wolverhampton, ISnf?. 
hen, BilMtoi^ 1818. 
Mnothy ,. 1S34. 
MtiTin. iSatJ. 

n, NcwoAfitk'. 1830. 

r.h, Tnm worth, 18»4. 
V. 18110. 
uijitxjij, 18dU. 

tt-on-Trent, 1H>I. 

rv, 1818. 

1831).— Anything printed 
l«lem. 1850. 

. • .11. 18S3. 

1 UjlU 

f K. K., Ufcloxetcr. IHTil). 
^ jv. BurnK'ni. 1834. 
phiMi .. 1831). 
Ft, Hntiky. 1H|!S. 
' direct to R. Simms. 

, NvwciMtic*. St&lb* 

ITATIEB.'* — Thia novel compound 
_ M unknown to the * N.E.D./ 
•ppe^rtyl in auch plu-ases as 
r teKool," blue-water theories." 
invariably ai* an adjective in 
"^ HMxlem .style which piles up 

substantives in that position. The word 
is, I believe, the invention of the last 
five years or so, and ia due to some naval 
expert — perhaps Capt. Mahan. It embodies, 
I understand, a theory of naval defence. 
WTiat, then, does it imply ? As used at 
present, without a word of explanation, it 
is wholly unintelligible to the ordinary man, 
and * N. & Q.' might get the name of its 
inventor before it is too fate to recover it. 

A derivation from this technical use is a 
general reference like the following in the 
Introduction to Maaefield's book * A Sailor's 
Garland,' in which 1 notice : '* One can find 
him [the poetic sailor] on blue- water ships 
at the present time." Hutoclides. 

*' Armiger " : '* Genebosxts," &c. — I 
shall be much obliged if any of your readers 
can inform me of tbe proper Enghsh equiva- 
lents for tho following Latin descriptions, so 
often to be met with in old parish registers, 
&c., viz., armiger, tquts auratua, miles, 
generosiuif in(jenuus. R. L. 

[The nso of the tenns nrmifff.r and f/tnt4t>Jtn>i is 
rliscuKHrtl At 7 S. X. 383. 44.'j; xi. 97, 173, by Mr. 
Albert IL^ktsftoksk and others, Imt not the 
Kii^lisli equivalt'nt** of the word«. Sm H^:HB^:KT 
Maxwell Ktated at 7 S. x. 93 that mi/tM deiJMinhtsa a 
knight, tt haroiietl>einKd<?8igiittted miff (Mrontttua.] 

Ward Surname : its Origin. — What is 
the origin of the conunon surname Ward ? 
I have always imderstood it to be a pure 
English name with its iisuaJ meaning of 
" gtiard." But Mr. Moore, in liis newly 
published book of * Manx Names,' says 
that it comes from Mac-an-Bhaifd^ " son of 
the poet " (the mac and the article dropped, 
and bh pronounced as v or w). This may or 
may not be tho case with the Manx name, 
but I can liardly suppose that the English 
surname has any such origin. 

C. S. Jerbam. 

*' Kinosley's Stanb." — Can any reader 
of * N. d: Q.' give me information as to tho 
expression " Isingsley's Stand," as appUed 
to the 20th Regiment ? Col. Kingsley waa 
colonel of the regiment when it distinguished 
itself at the battle of Mind en, 1 Aug., 1759. 


John Amcotts was admitted to West- 
minster School July. 1727, aged eleven. 
I should be glad to "ascertain his parentage 
and any particulars of liis career. 

G. F. R. B. 

Georqb Geoffry Wyatviixe, son of 
Sir Jeffiry Wyatville, the architect, exhibited 
an architectural picture at the Royal 
Academy in 1832. Waa he «n. «tc\a\;w^ <3t 


NOTES AND QUERIES, do 8. vil Fiaui, 

ail artist * I aJiould bo glad to know the 
date of his death. G. F. R. B. 

Antiquarian Society, Batley, York- 
shire, — The following occurs in the first 
volume of 7' he Antiquary, April, 1880, p. 183 : 

"" ,\ ' ■ iiifirian S^>ciety has been established at 
Tia' Itiro. Tiu' jtrulinuiirtry intH'ting wa& 

it»v r by Mr. Viitct* and Mr. W. M. Hick, 

by wliuEU the meeting was calletl togethei," 



(10 S. vi. 409; vii. 33.) 

The practice of nffbcing liells to »ora* 
portion of the neck-)<«Tn.^is: r.f i,..r^-i 
attached to carts and \ 

has long been in use in u . • 

atUl continued in Bome distnctH. liul tlw 
term " bell-horse " was, hmvever. luoi. 

Thev made a statement showing that the , j- 

parish was veiT rich in ancient rehcs. Have g«"erally apphed to the l.-ading at, 
these gentlemen, or has the Society itself, a strmg of pack-hora^. to whose n 

published matter whicii would be UBefxil 
in a bibliography of Yorkshire ? 


Chables Reade's Greek Quotation : 
Seneca. — Many years ago 1 sent a query 
as to the authorship of the following quota- 
tion, but no reply appeared : kui tovto 
/ieytiTTT/? ecTTt Te;(i'r^s tty^t^Oa irneii' to. *rawca. 
(One accent only is given.) It appears in 
' Hard Cash,' by Charles Reade, chap, xli., 
where it is said to come from one of the 
Greek pliilosoxihers. 

In * Seneca's Morals by Way of Abstract/ 
by Su' Roger L'Estrange, tenth ed., 1711, 
p. 273 (i.e., at the beginning of chap, xxiv., 
' Of a Happy Life '), is the following : — 

" It in ft Milster-iiicre to draw <iood out of Evil ; 
Aud hv the lieln of Viituc to ini|»rove Misfortune 
into BleKsingH. 

Can any correspondent give the author 
of the Greek saying, or a reference to any 
passage in Seneca which may be the original 
of the extract from L' Estrange ? 

Robert Pierpoint. 

dubourdieu and england families. — 
Can F. F. C. who wrote on the Dubordieu 
family at 10 8. xi. 305, confirm or supple- 
ment the following imperfect genealogical 

Admiral Dubourtlleu. 


John DubouiHiien (fl. 


Rev. Peter I>ul>ourdien. 
rector of Kirkby (something) in Vorksliire. 

Mr. R^lton, Boulton,^Mi8M Dnhovirdicu, 
or Bowden I 

Miss B{oltan) T^Thonms England, 
of Hull. 

I spell the name aa it is spelt on the title- 
page of a book T once had. but cannot find 
^-oa the Thcban Legion, by the Rev. John 
'Diil.rvnrdieu, chaplain to the Duke of Schom- 
E. B. England. 
Jj. VVray, Am>)lcsiflc, 

susi>eoded a single loud -sounding bflJ. 'Ihr- 
pack-animals wore a special bretsJ, «nd wfrt 
accustomefl to carry heavy and btiUcy 
weight-g of goods of every description — cm • 
wooden framework called a CTOOk (long aoi 
short) ; in packs, or in paniers : or, whoi 
employed by farmers for cor 
to the fields, in wooden or 
like large bandboxes, with iiinLt-ti i 
for discharging their content*. In 
a sack tied at the bottom was (U . ■ 
Btitutod. for the latter. By untying 
loop, *' the maniure dropjjed i^n tli'- - 
where it was wanted. A similar *. 
ment was at one time in use in Sco:;_- 
(' Gleanings from Japan,' by Vf, G. Ijicksoo. 
1889, Iil3-14). 

The bell-animal was not only the bwt 
animal in the troop, but, according to Mr. 
Chanter, '* it was a common custom for am' 
one wanting a good horse to go to our nortl 
country and buy the leader of a string U 
pack-horses" (Trans. Devon. Assoc.^ vi 
190). The bell sei-A'cd two sepuTAtv and 
distinct pm'pose.s, acting both as a gtud» 
to the rest of the troop, and as a warning tA 
the approaching traveller. 

The niunber of animals in a t - 
considerably, and although th 
independently of each other, ai... v 
bound to their fellows by truces or 1 
any kind, they one after anoth»'«- 
line, implicitly followe<i the Icj 
being guided solely by the p«m 
bell which he wore, and which utxi 
clanged at every steji he took i 
well expressed in some line^ on * The 
Horse ' that appeared in one of iha 
odicals in the middle of the vigpti' 
century : — 

Through tangled brnk«<9 ttinl tiarrow |»m* 

fy, , • ' -^ ^ 'V ' - '' '* 

No 1 1 

A strUcmg illoatrataon ol i ' 
influence of the bell, even u]»oi» a 


Ftn. !., mrr.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


of luwk-anitnals, is thus recorded 

Lord in * Tlie Xaturalist in Vaii- 

lid/ &c. (1860):^ 

ightjont* nmle^ Htid h Im?U hnrw. To 

;jth<mt a liorne carr\'in«a Iwll roiiiul 

ictly im|Mwsil»lt, The Ik-UIiimw is 

.hejul, iind wlierfver it gt)t??» tlii.' 

wijglt^tile."-!. 248. 

> acids an interedtiiig account of 
id adopted m crosw*iug a wide 
iieu, if a canoe is obtainaMe^ 
lorse, de|irived of his )icll, i» toMoil liy 
iroMts th« HtrvHiu; h iiacker, HUlllditt^ in 
K?f|w rinxjuj; the hell violently," 

sar sorao hesitation, the uiules 
thf wrtK'i mul Hwiux towjii'dn tht" il»n^- 
i}u rt'ftf liiinj the Mppusitf nuW\ when tho 
touch tlie gtoiiiid. the lUAU H4{aiu diops 
1 nde» it oiiu ringing; the all-iKituiit l»ell 

^ canoo the jiacker swims beside 

ll, talcing care to kteep up the bell 

S6$>-70). The team, according to 

wa» undtT the care of one or more 

men ; hut when, as for farm 

_ th e aniinab were few only, tho 

^HUyA»ted himself on the top of 

BUPJK, In tl)o latter cases the 

m^tiave been dispensed with. 

to bear in mind that, with the 
of the main roads between cities 
the majority of the public road- 
Ingland, as late as the commeiice- 
iie last centurj". consiated of un- 
kept, narrow lane«, whicli coiUd 
Hiverscd by wheeled carriages of 
Theee lanes were frequently 
with the ancient trackways : 
Dartmoor are eliaracterized by 
imard as ** liarrow gidlies dignified 
:ne of roada " (Trans. Dev. Aaaoc.^ 
74). T^a^•eUing along them on 
was attemied witli many dia- 
but the pedestrian had to suffer 
diitiona) uilhculties and dangers, 
tion of th*nM> lane»t m noted by the 
arriott in hia * Marriage is hke a 
'o Lano ' : — 

,iU<Mf. >in lotig. Hrul whwu ^11 are in it, 
A« foAt UH a c«KV d<jc« a linnet ; 
rough aud dirty th** nwnl mny l»e 

ird you must, tliere is no turning luund. 

'f.- -,. I. i Lc ....( ,. . .- ,.,,4.. 

i i.t jMithrj , 

roi.r uu'l ruii {'jul ut tuiuU utht.T. 
I arr no hlKh, tu tbi* lr(t ImuuI iuid 
tuptiir bcauticsi around tUeni fit>in 

From time immemorial, and until a recent 
period — as late as 1840 in Sliropshire — the 
sole method of traiwportii>g goods all over 
England was by pack-horses or mules, 
except in tho vicinity of cairiage by water, 
(The same method is still practised in many 
moimtainoua districts on the Continent.) 
XumerouB entries relating to })ack-horsea!| 
will be found in the Domesday Record* 
According to Mr. Markland, " the persoE 
of young scholara *' were frequently conveyed, 
by pack-animals to the Univorsities from 
tl>e north of England (Archfeologia, xx. 460). 
In 1866 Sir J. Bowring remarked {Trans, 
Dev. A»»oc.., iii. 95) : — 

"It \n M-itliifi n»y re('(»ne<^tion that thel-e Wei^*; 
nmny rottcls leading to iiiii»ni'tAnt phvces in this very 
county (Dtjvon) wli»< li no wheel tiiniAjfe ouuhl itass. 
and wliore everythinii was conveyed on the hueks i»f 
imcU-hopses, stumldiiig mer the hrn|<i>n ntones, rind 
stinietiinyH huried in tht ilee]t iiuid." 

The disuse of pack- horses began when 
carta and waggons could be employed on 
tlie roads and unpave«l roadways, both 
forma of conveying goods being frequently 
utihzed by tho"^ same carrier, as shown in 
tlie following advertisement, transcribed 
from A. lirice'a Exeter paper in 1727 : — 

*'(ie«il>:e ti.itebill, the Tiuintnu Carrier Ut uiul 
fr«ini Kxeter, wku fur nevtrrtl yejirs iwksl hiU» 
]trttcticed that eniplnyment with Pack Hnrws, not 
iitily rorttinnes sutrh earrioRe, hut now ninre coni- 
Jiu«li(»u.sly «nfl Mec-urely t^j nervf hisMtisters.. with 
Omveyftiicc (if <iiioda ot hnuer Weight ami Bulk, 
(hives \Vd«i;on8 also," 

Long crooks were for the most ]>art employed 
for holding tlie goods to be transported. ' 
TlieHie were secured on£^ on either side of the 
l>ack oi the anijnal. and are thus fully 
described by JVlr. Elworthy : — 

"LonR ftiXKjks con»i8t of two lon|_' j»iile,s litMit 

in rtluilf circle of alM>ut eichtoen inches in dintneter, 
hut uith one end niur-h lunger than the uiher. A 
}>air of these l>eut i»ole,^ are ke]»t ahout tw»^ t«"<-t 
aprtrt and jMirullel to each nthcr hy fiM> or wore 
nln^^J^. A frame w) constructed forms one crnok# i 
and a jtrtir of these pairs ore shuiff on the ]iack*J 
sjuldle jiannier wiw. When in jiouition the long-1 
v\m\h <jf the crooks are unritcht, and aif \\\ lea.<ttj 
tliree feet alK>ve thv horse s hack. BeinK over live 
fc«it asunder, a very W^jt? ijiianlity of hay, «tra%v. 
or com can he ItMidwl on a |»aok-horHe.'*— * West 
S«mierwet Word-lkiok.' 17**. 

Short crooks, sometimes called '* mibs,*' 
sufficed for barrels and for small heaN-j* goods. 

The widcspreading crooks, combined with 
the narrowness of tbe passage, will scr\'e 
to show the danger to which a traveller, 
whether on foot or on horseback, would be 
subjected on encountering a gang of jjack- 
horses in a narrow lane, especially at the 
close of the day ; and hence the importance 
of a warnuig of their approacli Viovcv^ ^Yv«m. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. Lio s. viL fei., m 

by the sound of tho beU borue by the leading 
animal, so that a shelter of some kind tnight 
be Bought without delay. C. Vancouver 
states : — 

"The iHiiidity with which thosf auiiiuvlH (Ifuceud 
the hills when Hot loadcii, aiu\ l]w utter iiii|)o**Ki- 
bility lit" pasHing hwdwl uoes, retiuiie^ tlmt tin* 
Kttiiitst cautinn shoukl \w uhcmI in kefping out «»f 
thf wiiy of the one, and exertion in keejung nhend 
of the' other. A rrfws-wtty frnk in tm3 road or 
gfttt'MftV i-s easterly hjokofl for as n retiring mjiot to 
the ttrtveller, until the pursijinK H<|n«dron, »)i" 
heA\iIy lo'tfled bri«ftdt\ nmy hivve itastsed by." 
•View of the Agrioultun- of Devon' (18f)H). 370-71. 

Even the narrow bridges erected to 
enable the pack-animals to cro88 streams 
without wetting their bmdeiw not only 
have low parapets, to prevent tlie chance 
of the crooks coining into contact with the 
stonework ; but, especially in tlie case of 
the bridge being a long one, the projecting 

}>ier8 have their external walls carried up 
evel with the parapet, so && to form recesses 
where the wayfarer may find a temporary 
refuge. A good example of tliis kind of 
bridge croasee the Wye a siiort distance from 
BakewelK Derbysliire, and adjoining the 
main road on the way to Aahford. 

Tho children's jingle, '" Bell-horaes, bell- 
horses, what titne of day," «fcc., is common to 
many countiea. Curiously enough, it doe» 
not appear in that form in Halliwell's 
• Nurserj' Rhymes,' where the tirat line 
commetices, "Good horses, bad horses," &c. 
" The Pack-Horso " a«i an inn .sign was 
formerly more frequent than it is at the 
present day; probably when wheeled 
carriages came into more general use it was 
qhangod into that of " The Waggon and 
Horses." In Larwood and HotteiTs * His- 
tory of Signboards ' the " Bell and Horse," 
•' Bell and Black Horse," and '^ HorHe 
and Dorsiter *' (dor*i(er=a pannier ; accord- 
ing to the * E.D.D/ it should be dorser or 
doaaer) are mentioned, but not *' Bell- 
Horse," although there were probably 
many examples of the last named in the 
eighteenth and preceding centuries. A house 
bearing this sign formerly occupied a site 
on Kelsall Hill, hah* way between Chester 
and Northwich- It appears to have been 
the only " house of call " between those 
places. * T. N. BRUSHFiELn, M.D. 

•Sftlterton, I>evon. 

CAjti)L>rAX Mezzofanti (10 8. vii. 6, 57). — 
If, as we are taught, an infant is one who 
catmot speak, a Mezzofanti may be snpposed 
to justify his name if he can deUver himself 
in half tho language* which are worthy of 
being knovm. 

In Murray's ' Yorkshire * (p. 238) tlid^v. 
J. Oxlee, rector of Molesworth, Uiidft, 
is said to have mastered 120 lan^;uiis«» and 
dialects ; but what use he made of Ihccil iil 
I do not know. He was a. native of CiuU 
borough, who died in 1854, when, h 
between seventy and eighty, he -wae ■ 
ing on a benefice of 228i. a year. 

Another polyglot gentleman resident in 
Yorkshire was but a bad second to Mr. 
Oxlee. This was Dr. Mawer, whose epit^ 
at Middleton Tyas is thus set down in 
Whitaker's ' Richmondsliire ' (vol. i. p. 234)- 

"Thi» Monument resmies from Oblivion U>»- 
Renniinrt of the Re\'^' .lolin Maw*^-. IK I).. Ul« 
Vicfti- of thiH Parish. ' ' ^ ^' • *^" ' " 
tiHe<l IKI -. ti^ alao of fl.i 
died Dcf" •>J"'', t7Wi, _ 
Choneel. They were iiejHonB «.«t cium 
The Uoetor was de«een(le<l h-om the 1 : 
of Mflwer , rtn<l was inferior tfl none of ) 
Ancestor*^ in ]ier8onal Alerit, IxnuK 
Lin>ju)i*t this nation ever proUitced. 
to H)»eak and write twenty-two L.»m 
jiarticulflrly excelled in the K.iistcni 
whieh he l>r<JlK>»orl to His Kuyftl H i ' ' ■ 
Prince of NVftles^ to whom he wjt *^ 

to t>miMigivte the Christian Heligi<> "**' 

Kmpiie. A j/ji'eat and noble 1>' "*•* 

fni8trat«d by the Deixtli of that *" 

the ^.'leat >lt)rtifiofttion of this ^ v ■ " 

whose Merit, meeting no Reward in 
will, it. is to l>e h«r|>cd, receive it in til- 
the Being whieh Justice only eau influeiivt^ 

According to ' Retniniscenees of ao Okl 
Bohemian ' (vol. ii. pp. 158. 159), Dr. Kad 
Tausenau, who strove to teach me Germio 
in the fifties, was only to be ♦■• 
Mezzofanti ; but as to that, I thi 
Bohemian was misled by liis emn 
He wrote that Dr. Tauaenau was 
"one of the liest and -■ ' ' ' 
<ntr time, no mean Uri- 
^*^^eake^ of s*even Kui. , 
(..zeeli, luiliftn, Freneh, Knuiixh, > 

to wit Kns{ti»li he KiMtke with ( 

jireal int«TnHtionttl nleetin^^ V '' 

lie inter^jreted t*» the Kd 

firitjnf't (it the expression o . . ■■mm 

nuulc in five different liininitt>jv"» 1^ * iciMt- wltich 

never lienrd achieved l^eforv or sinoe." 

St. Swn 1 

Vi. 388, 450; %Ti. 11). — As '* meiklo ' mud 
*'muckle'* are simply variants, it is altf»gethrr 
futilo to attempt the task of assigniu 
separate and distinctive functions, 
not ' mickle ' or * meiekle,' " wf -d. 

** usually indicate quantity, win J lo' 

refers to size T " ** Moickle/' as m-f j» viint,, 
may be left out of the question, to winch 
in its modified form a directly nf»C0tj\'« 
answer falls to be given. Iii translafiog 
*-t:ueid,' V. 150, Cmvin Uougla* tidw ' 





eikle IuUib/' having undoubtedly 
quantity, in his mind's eye ; 
ay be said of the ** twa 
■ claithiis of domik,'* duly 
i i I > >n ison'a ' Inventories and 
or<i9 of the Royal Wardrobe and 
p, loO, Quantity or extent, 
other hand, is indicated by the use 
uckJ»« " in Ramsay's proverb, "" Little 
tht' head tnakes muckle tra%^el to the 
VV'ith regard to Bums*B practice, it 
■Mry to point out again, as was 
j^ponc in diseustting another matter, 
is perilous to draw conclusions from 
iitH examination of facte. We arc 
, for instance, the " meikle com and 
iiic ) of * Tain o' Shanter ' to prove 
tie poet chooses *' meikle " in pre- 
I to ** muckle "* when he wishes to 
J quantity, and we are left to infer 
? would not use the san^e fonm when 
ig of size. This, however, is an 
,' untenable assumption, as may be 
y reference to the " meikle stane " 
t ' Tatn o' Shanter ') *' whare drucken 
^rak 's neck-bane.""* Then, bcfiides 
Bckle devil,'* " the muckle house," 
Rtuckle pity '' (advanced in evidence 
contention that '* muckle " is Burna's 
ite epithet for size), we have "the 
devil wi' a woodie '* in the Elegy on 
fsou, " the meikle black deil " in the 
man song, -' tlie wee stools o'er the 
'' in the * Address to the Toothache ' ; 

r. Everything, indeed, tends to 
standard Scottish authors, early 
use theee variant forma india- 
^ely, provincial practice and momen- 
rediiection serving, no doubt, to some 
to determine their particular choice. 
THOiiAS Ba^-ne. 
JovA»$ may like to be reminded that 
of the *N,E.p.' dealing with 
M *' and " raickle " are now 
i 'JO latter (dated 1 Jan., 1907) 
*'mickle** and "muckle" as the 
iroffd. Q. V. 

i'* meikle," ** mickle," "muckle," 

rd. Local pronunciation accounts 

lifTorent spellings. Rcgarchng a 

!i.i Bums is not a reliable 

r was from the east coast, 

tno I ay, where the dialect is very 

that of Ayrsliire. When a 

Iftn rem oven to a new county his 

i» the laHt thing lie changes. If 

tn are given hitn in his new abo<le, 

r« ioiluenctvl by their father's dialect, 

i^icb All *>xtpnt that in a com- 

pany of .school children one has only ti> 
hear these " foreigners " speak a few words, 
and they are identified immediately. Iji. 
one case the influence of a Border dialect 
was known to affect the speech and intona- 
tion of a family in another county to the 
third generation. " Muckle " is the form 
commonly heard where Norse influence is 
strong, but is not confined to these districts^ 
and is met with in counties where " meikle " 
and ** mickle " are heard. " Puckle " is 
similarly related to " pickle " — the latter 
being sometimes used by folk who aspire 
to a little *' superiority,*' the former being 
the cherished moutiiful of tlioae who pride 
themselves on their contempt for all affecta- 
tion. Here ia a verse by Alexander Logan, 
who was bom in Edinburgh in 1833, and 
lived there most of his life : — 

Wevl. it riiBUii lUfttttT niiokk-, 
Naniiif ivjon will he thJM Wftv; 

Shf tnair eunnie wifkls thv Hicikle, 

Still fur ii' tluit ( iits mainl huy. 

North of the Forth the last two words of 

the first line would generally be pronounced 

" maitter muckle." P. F. H. 

" The muckle Tarn I " was a not un- 
common expression in the South of Scotland 
in the days of my youth, to indicate a well- 
meaning, but blundering man. W. S. 

As bearing upon the use of the word 
** mickle," I may mention tliat there are 
two adjacent \'il1agcs near Derby called 
respectively *' Micldeover " and *' Little- 
over." H. T. W. 

RoMNEY'a Ancestry (10 S. vii. 9, 79)- 
— Kirkland is a township in the jiftrinh of 
Oarstang, in Lancashire- In the church is 
a brass plate : — 

"In rufmorvof Henrv Alilxit. of Uai-stiuitf. who 
died 2.">"' Mairli, KiTI, iu tin.- 2.'»"' year af hw Age, 
Hvurv Ahlnrt deml 
This \ivmp snii^j; dntli Binpr : 
' O'er hell I doc triumiih ; ^ ^^ 
O ! death, where is thy .sting?" 

Henky Fishwick. 

A Knighthood or 1603 (10 S. \*i. 181, 
257, 474 ; vii. 16, 54). — xAt the last reference 
but one Mk. Chambers courteously corrects 
what he says is an inaccuracy on my part. 
Having never personally looked into the 
genealogy'' of the Newdigato family, I have 
no intention nor desire to challenge Mb. 
Chambers's corrections. As stated at the 
time, the information in question was com- 
mimicated to me (unasked) by a specialist 
whom I believed to lie trustworthy, and 
M'hose statements scarcely seetncxlL Xo c«J^ 


NOTES AND QUERIES. li« s. vjj. ki 

for independent verification on my part. 
The occasion was a private monograjjh 1 
<;omniled on Count Tallard's exile in Not- 
tingham 200 years ago, when that eminent 
Frenchman lodged with the head of the 
Xottinghom Newdigates. 

A. Staplkton. 
MB, Nc^l Street. Nottinxhftiu. 

Major Hamill of Capri {10 S. vli, 27).— 
This gallant Irinhman was wnimded at the 
battle of Maida, in Calabria. 4 July. 1K0«. 
in which the PYench under General Kegnier 
were defeated by the British luider Major- 
General Sir John Stuart. Major Haraiirs 
*' judicious conduct " in the fiehl on a later 
•occasion ie noted by Lieut.-Col, Alexander 
Bryce, R.E., in a dispatch dated 8 Sept.. 
1808. John B. Wainewtiiqht. 

*'G,'' Hard or Soft (10 S. vi. 129, 190. 
-236),— 1 lately found that in the family 
name Gifford the G was hard in rilenhall, 
near Henley-in-Arden, Warwick, while it is 
soft, I believe, in Bishopswood, near Bre- 
wood, Staffs. T. NtCKLiN. 

Spwttino Fields of Ice (10 S. iv. 325. 
395, 4.54, 513; v. 31, 77).— The following 
paasage is from Sven Hedin's ' Throuch 
Asia,' 1898, vol. i. p. IfiO, It refers to Lake 
Kara-kul in the Tamil's, a valine sheet of 
%vater, with an area of 120 to 150 square 
miles : — 

••Wi' ro«!f ant>»n the ioe »il tout three miles du*? 
west ftoni rfu^ iHliuuf, tlien Mom^daitd koI nUnit 
Houiirlinur the flej.ili nf the wei^tem hnmii. Tl.«i 
mirnml ti-iisiun ot iIk. ice w^ r.f coxitnv thi- snmc in 
t« very nuHiier. Our Hrli,,^ over it imturallv di^^- 
turlM^tl tho tMjuihljiiiuii. hy if>'rL'a«iri«thcMlowiiwHrrl 
iireftsure. A.s mo rnovL-d rtlon«. vsvt-y sto|> the 
hofwjh took wnt* aocuini^nnied hv jiefulinr rwmr»fi.s. 
One moment tliei-e uas n «i«)whiiK like the flwti 
li*w« notes of lui oi^uii, t.he next it wj^n nn thoHKh 
Hornel^rid.v were thtinipinR it hig drum in the 'tint 
hulow. then '(inie a eiiusli as thuiiuli it lailway- 
♦•iirrinKe doui were U-inv? hftniicd Uj ; rhi-u t\^ thuu>£h 
n bin HMiiKi htone liad t)een tlun« intii the hike. 
These wimnds weit? uwoinjionied hy nltemAte 
wh>«tlm^'s AMI whiningH ; whilst every T)t)\v and 
liCiiin Me woinod t<» hear ttiv - off suli'umi ine ex- 
plosions. At ever y luurl rxMiort the h^rse.'. t witclied 
their mrfi ami started, whxUi the men ithin.-eel ut 
ntie anntlier with i^niiejwtitiun.s teritir in their fftoe.% 
] he .Sa! l,s iH'lteviHl that the iviunds wer^ ortiisrd by 
•hig tmhf.s kn.H'kinR their fiends n^in'iu .■*' 

But the mort' intellicmt Kirnhiz iiiMt m 

th»t there were no hnh in Kjihi Kul. I n I 

Jiskwl fhroi whfit WAS the Pause oi the Btraiige 
-unniHls Me heard unih-t the iot% nnd whut wft!* auma 
-Tin there, they nn.MV*ered. with true Oriental phfentn, I 

Kh.Klrt \ illjidi ('(•'(mI ithine knows !).'• 
In The Morning Post, 31 Dec, 1906, an 
•rticl© on * Winter Joyance ' speaka of the 
**vride frozen wat.irwaj's '• of Canada. 

"under whicli a df ..,,. *^t-"-. 
— as it were the 
thousand-ton guii .., .i. ...-. *.. 

In England, on the tidal T 
fractured as it is ftnmim' 1.%.- r 
water from the Hn 
freezes into a vei\ 
lot of stone slabs chucked r 
way." An old man bred up • 
the river informs me that he ha« ii 
once heard the thundermg of the i*. 
Uiitterwick wlien the thaM- began »«ii«< 4i 
severe '' blast.'* ' M. V. 

Letters recently pnbliBhed in The .Ufrr«u^- 
Post afford infornmtion in»i-.iti i^itiv ,- . « i - 
words of Lowell and \\< 
were the subject of comrri 
enees given above. In a letteir i-: 
the i«8ue of Tfic Morning Pant f«>r " 
inquin,^ wat^ made whether th« 
article on the delights of a Cati; 
which had appeared in a pr- 
could explain the '* deep, nij-st. 
ing " described as being *' heard 
again " coining from the froxcn wi. 
The Morninrf Post of 7 January • 
liie following replies, the firet *of 
from the pen of the writer of the arU''*^ 
which gave occasion for the uiquiry :— 

SiH,- The tienii'Tulou'* wiuncl t^i \% ■ 
Mii^* made ill ' W inli-r Juyiiuce ' hrt-- 
tiir »iH I k)j<»H", been xdentiHrnlly ,\t 
hvAixl it many tiinew not only 
l&keR in Canack. but rtlno in I 
!*k«tin|i at niieht in f' ' | 

worth Lake, u liijj; 
Lnnc-a.shire, and on f 

s^imewlmt terrifyiiiK t.<> the mind ut a boy 
j previous ex|ierienoe of sneh |K»et«tnt>«. In n^ 
uist4irK'e M'flH !i thaw irn • ; ■ i 

than mJt the frost v.i 
waters. In C'tiiiada 
sniqi"' is Konieiiniet* in.irk»-d !»> 
alteration in the volume of the ' 
etuiRi^ the formntion of a gr-' ■' 
mile,'* lonjfl. nnd this " ire 
At other times, it may In.', ; 
set up by a rapid chim'pje lu ',• 
Hound ift imrdncetl — just m.s in ih' 
iron when .-shftken. The thefirv < 
eertwinly not a ikmkI M'orkin^ Ii 
to hnne ni\ ex]ilanation. Hw 
Crtnrt<hi h»w< other weitil noi- 
for c'X(ini)»le. the " noise <il 
trHiisUle n Ciee term), whi* ,. 
way, in * Lorna iKKine,' and eci ■ 
the |»Hf»«iinj by ot a f'ominuiy oi 
I hojH' *' Devon Prior" will sucoer'd in ■ 
and cH)mpleto Hoioiititio exiilanation.- 

.Ian. .'>. K. I 

fSut.— In reply to a letter signed ** i 
I writf toHMy that when 1 \v.t < u ^U] 
my lather tJi (Jiirvaila h 
iKJon from ThiLH' Riv 
River tor a jferviee at •• im„ t . n.i, ^i !■%,, i.|, 

m fk«. ii, loor;. 1 NOTES AND QUERIES. 

Iv to tht* 

1 wUlK j»ii>ve»l 
uiHtiun to tint 
- >'v cr to jdve yuu 
R. S. M. 

ThfSf» lettrrs are, I tliink. worthy of 
luction in * X. & g.' F, Jarratt. 

Ti%fp«t.* 1ft02 (10 S. i. 470).— There 
b of a sitiiUar kind, viz.. 
• '■s Sttt'Jt paper, as it may 
i'' '*'. jnuued by John Such, of No. 1, 
orrnan Terrac-t*. Waml^rwMirth Roa(i, in the 
iriah of t.'l«phain, and publislied by him 
hw offire. -iVK nudg«» How. WatUng Street ; 
" ^y NewTiian & Co.. 48. WatHng Street, 
It covered four pages, and the 
i*'aa (W. The Parliamentary int^Ui- 
itjcludes reports from the House of 
And the Hon§e of Ladies. The 
®t of Queen 'j» Bench appears under that 

Kt jud;^e. couix*ie), and jury are 
aiituniatA. Some fun is 'made 
use tif old Henr>' Widdicombe. 
HicHAKj) H. Thornton. 
' Kf.nt's Cthldren- (10 S. vii. 
I.— The Duke wan at Halifax, Nova 
>ii«. from May. 1794, till Aupust. 1800, 
idame de St. Laurent living 0|V^nly witli 
n; but she eertainh' had no ehildren at 
kt time. Thrts' members of tlie French 
an family of De Salabeny oweil 
bliig to the friend-^lup and fiatronage 
lAmi> de St, Laurent, btit in their 
|lo her and to their ow-n family down 
Uiey make no reference to any 
Hut iht* Uuke hati children by 
preen. Miss (tay. and otiier fair*l>u't 
09elft, and Lewis Melville may havf 
them the ehildren of Madame do 
r>t. hi. N. G. 

father of CojMtanre Kent (Koad 
fiflrr. IsOO) wfci said to be a aon of the 
T)u:.. nf Kent. War. K. Pekt. 

llAt'THMBL (HI 8, vii. g). — The 

* T)tic|uitatc- ■■ , ' 

\rthur I J- 

'^ •""• >' 't Lees. ir. ■. |l,> 

: li** B ' at St. ' -llepe, 

li. iit.J, and \\>i,-s .iiK I wanlK 

eiiTAt'e of Whitevt'ell in IJowlan<l 

itirwwi .If c'hi|>ping (co, Lane.), 

l.l May. 1743, and wan at tbo time of lus 

ileath still eurat^ of Whitewell. 
I The Kauthn»ell family wan nettled at 
I Leo« in the jieventeenth eent\iry. 

HENBYFiamvii ic. 

The Old Hiohl.ixder " (10 8. vii. 47, 
92). — Col. Malet thinks I " see the featm*es 
of a Lowlander in the fact of these eftigies 
being elean shaved." Not at all. I said 
that their elean-shaved facea had Lowland 
features. The tj-pe is that of such dis- 
tinguished Scots as Lord Chief .Justice Sir 
Alexander Coekburn or Cteneral Andiew* 
Wanchope — and the type in easily detected 
on account of the absence of beard. 

T. O. H. 

•'MiTis" (10 S. vii. 68).— Dr. Bradley 
is quite right in supposing that nutts-green 
and mitin-castituj liave no etymological 
connexion. The former is from Miti.^, the 
name of the Vienna manufacturer who di?>- 
covered it in 1814. Tlie latter — accordinj^ 
to Brockhaus, ' KonverdationH - Lexikoii,* 
Jubilee edition — ini from Latin mitt's, " Hoft," 
no doubt on account of the fluidity which 
this process gives to the molten metal. 

J.vs. Platt, Jun. 

" MOKI5," A DoKKEV (10 S, vii. OS).— 
I remember an epi<' poem published in 1844 
called * Uuck-legged Dick had a Dojikcy,' 
in which the term in question ap|>ears 
.several timeti ; autlior uixknown ; publisher, 
J. Catuach^ Monmoutli Street, Seven Diala. 
Though not so long a-s Homer'.s ' Iliad,' it 
is too long for the eolumniri of * N. & Q.' 
One verse recorded the fact that '* the 
nioh' \va.s sent to the gi*eenyard " during the 
period of its master's inqirisonment for dis- 
orderly conduct, and died for want of the 
necesisariea of life. The owner afterwards 
bought " A new tnoke ai"!!! a hamper for 
17 bob and a kick " (17*. iid.) ; but tliroiigh 
deficiency of vision and moans of locomotion 
'* the new utoke " '" was as quiet aa the one 
that "wasi dead."' Cum inuUis aliia. 

Walter Scargill. 

But a few days ago I read in 5 S. x.. xi. 
or xii- the paragraph nought by Dr. Bradley 
I have endeavom*ed to find my way back to 
it, but the quest has been unsuccessfid. 


I can remember seeing, niore than sixty 
years ago — perhaps in 1842^ — in a penny illua- 
trated paper, a rude engraving of a row in 
St. Giles's, called "" A ( Jciieral Strike.' One 
of the actors in it suggested having the 
moh' in court, a-i lie witm^sed the whole of 
the buMineg^. " Tlie maftiaU'tt.\.e, Vciw^-se^, 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vu. feb. 9. 

declined taking the €^dence of the lionfce^." 
Tliia fixes the use of the word ten years 
earlier than 1 85 L John Pickford,;^M,A. 
Xewljouniti Rectory- Woodbridge. 

'' Mulatto " (10 S. vii. 68).— If this word 
ia not a corrupt metatheeiB of muunUad, or 
a mot savant from mulatuSj can it be that 
the termination is the Baekish diinimitive 
to, iiOj chOt tcfi&i added to nmla / The Basks 
have been so fond of taking Romance worda 
into their vocabulary, and have had so 
much influence in tiie Spanish colonies, 
that such an origin does not seem impoaaiblep 
thoucli their own word for mule is man do. 
A half-oaste may be said to be *" adopted " 
into one of two rac^es. E. S. Dodgsou. 

RovAL Kefieb School, Houghton-le- 
SpHDfC (10 S, vii, 68)- — In a list of eminent 
scholars who were educated at Kepier 
School, given in Nicholas Carlisle's * Gram- 
mar Schools in England and Walea,' are th© 
naniea of diristopher Hunter, the distin- 
guished physician, concerning whom see 
Stirteea's Durham ' and Nichols'g * Literary 
Anecdotes * ; and WilJiam Romaine» the 
eminent divine and writer (see Rose's 
* Biog. Diet.*). 


'^Wkoth'* (10 B. vii. 67),— The note 
showing that Shakespeare toicl others used 
iLroik aa a auhatantive, and that urath has 
been used an an adjective^ is useful and much 
to the point. But it is, as \isuai, a question 
of chronology and dialect. Before 1500^ 
I can find no such examples in the Midland 
dialect. On the contrary, the A.-S. wrath, 
adj., became, regularly, the ar.E. urooth or 
MTTrlf/i, as used by Chaucer at least twenty 
times (I give the references in my Glossary). 
But the A.-S. nra'ththe, sb., with long (t, 
became the M.E. vrathiJie^ nraUhe^ vratke, 
B& in Chaucer, at least seven times ; and 
was accompanied by the verb u^aUhen or 
uratheyt, to be angry, ueed by Chaucer at 
least five times. But, as time went on» 
confusion set in ; and that is why Shake- 
speare and Butler use the sb. in a form 
which, in Chaucer"'a time and dialect ^ would 
have been inadmisj^ible. It is perhaps 
worth mention that in Barbour the adj. is 
n*rath^ and the sb, is utHH ; as also in 
Hampole's Psalter, which is like wise in the 
JJorthern dialect, Waltek W- Skeat. 

ABMTttAt Benbow's Deaith (10 8. vii, 7, 
66). — The recent disastrous earthquake in 
Jamaica reminds me that it may not be 

out of place to record under this he 
the inscription to the memory of Ac 
Benbow which was placed over his 
in the church of St. Andrew, Kinj 
Jamaica. I copied it recentlj^ as fi 
from The Leisure Hour of 17 Jan., 18fl; 
MvTL' lyetli bit'Tri'd the IrKirly 
of lohii Ik-iilHhw K-iq'' Afhiiiral 
of the Whiii.' a true imtteni of 
Kndifih Civun^e whu lowt hys lift> 
in defence of hy« Qiieene atid 
Country XovenilKjr ye i*^ I TUG 
in the i^2*"' Vf^Al" «f hys m^e 
by a wouitd in hyu leg received 
in an engagement witlt 
Mons. Dii U*.H!w, Wiug much 

Besides the above inscription the a!al 
tains the crest and coat of arms of Ac 
Benbow ; but of these I have no rccorc 

JoKX T, Vi 
Loii(|C Itchingtoii, '\\'iirw]dkHh)t-f}, 

ViwTNG Family (10 S, \di. 28),— W 
and Henry V^ining were brothers of Fre 
and James Vining, Fanny Vining m 
Charles Gill (menager of the Lynn, Ip 
and other theatres), who was very 
her senior. On one occasion she act 
Windaor Caatl© under her marrieti 
She went to America in the fiftiee 
continued there. Gill died in tliis cc 
in 1869, Wm. Docqi 

ii'i. Helix K^>rttl. Brixton Hilt. 

f BisHor Island, Sotjth Pacific i 
vii, 69). — ^Thcre is no island so nan 
the Macquarie group. The rocks soi 
Macquarie Island (discovered 1811) a 
Bishop and Clerk aod the Judge and 
If Mb. MiCHELL will consult the older 
of the Central Pacific^ he will find 
Kingamill group an island named 
Capt. Charleii Bishop, of the brig Na 
who discovered this chain in 1799. 
island subsequently received the nar 
Blanej' and Sydenham ; its native n. 
Nanouti, There is also a Bisliop's 
in the Bonin group, N.W. Pacific, disc- 
by Capt. Bishop in 17&6, 

E, A- Petheh 

WvBEBTON, LiNcs (10 S, vii. 69),— 
is a valuable description of this churd 
illustrations of the exterior and ■ 
^* handsome octagonal font," in ' An A 
of tlio ChurcJies in the Division of H 
in the County of Lincoln,' with bit! 
illustrations, Boston, 1843. The naj3 
also spelt Wibertune ; see lAnes N. 
vol. vii. (Jan., 1902-Oct., 1803), i 
Wyberton church bells are somewhat! 

puu 0. 1907. 1 NOTES AND QUERIES. 

of tlie comity- The coatom 
tolling twelve strokes of the 
for a man, nine for a woman, 
>r a fliild : poals aro rung on 
loming. iMthtT at an early hour 
d the " \'t'str>' BelJ '* (the treble 
sniall bells of the ring) is rtmg 
na to attend a vestry. See * The 
of the Countv and City of 
Thomas North, F.S.A., 1882, 
2S7. At p. 703 are given the 
on the tliree bells. 
'St volume of The Antiquary, 
p. 183, it is noted that 

urine ftlTht»M>lojtJr.»il fiis<'<»vt-rifrf liuve 
murle flt ll>e ehuiclj i>f Lemlegar. in 
cnoolnshi^^^ <'^tHiij,' the work ai cletir- 
>ry T<i tin ■ >'»n of lh<5 fabric, 

Bt to Jw ' under tl»e hu|>ci-- 

;Mr. li. 1.1- - ir, FSA." 

lua (St. Leger), iiwhop of Autuji, 
\ was killed by Ebroin, Mayor 
fcce, in 678. His martvrdom is 
punnf'RtjMii in St. Leger'a Wood, 
51 ah. See further Smith's 

J. HoLDEjr MacMicha-El. 

a fihort notice of St. Leodegar's, 

in ' Reports and Papers ' of 

Arehitetttural Societies, vol. x. 

( was among the churches which 

Piocesan Architectural Society 

ioaton in 1870. Miirray has 

ring paragraph conccnung it 

Ibook for Loncolnshire,' p. 1*22. 

St, Switihn. 

i3«*s * History of Isltnoton * 
70).— Mb. E. E. Newtox, in hia 
query about this fragmentary 
refers to the little book by 
is. jun., ' Islington as It Was and 
lublished by John Henry Jackson 
•ud of my family's) at 21, Pater- 
r, and Islington Green, in 1854. 
tiAeful to add that another MTit^r, 
Aame ])atronymic as the author 
(one Thomas Lewis), wrote * A 
nf the Moral and Religious 
I during the last Foriv 
il .V Ward & Co., 27, Pater- 

' r- to Tftllngton I have 

ie yuhVishtHl in 1684, 
iitiiirvu rLumble; or, Islington 
]t,* printe<i in London by 
for nn anon\Tuous aiitlior. 
rar«^ little book>< tipon Iwlington 
pprint (by J. O. HalliweU. F.K.S., 

Catalogue of thti Rrtnties to he seen at .AilmiM's 
thf Royal Swiiii in tht? Kia^nland Rurtd. very 
rce, ITjH. CnUilojfiie of Ranties to In* -.t-LMi ivt 
1 SnlteioV OiHVe-iloviso in Cbebea, ii.rl. Cidf 

>.n itf' M.t I i-i «irtn X'-iA f^\Tr\ ^' 

1861) of 'Islington Wells; or, the Three- 
penny Academy,' printed in London for 
E. Richardson, 1691^a very broad i)oem 
indeed. I know of two others entitled 
respectively * A Walk to Islington, with a 
Description of the New Tonbridge,' and 
* .Esop from Islington,' both of which poems 
are dated 1699. Harry HEiis. 

Fair I'ark, Kxotor. 

Adams's Museum, Kingslaxd Roao (lo 
S, vi. 306). — In my note I was only able to 
suggest that a catalogpae of this " collection 
of curiosities and rarities " had been pub- 
lished, but it is now possible to be more 
definite, as there was a copy in George 
Daniel's library. In Sotheby's catalogue 
of the Hale (July, 1864) of that remarkable 
collection it occurs in lot 296 : — 

"Catalogue of thti Rrttlties to he seen at .AdjiniM's 

at tin ^ - ■' "• "■ *'■■ '^- •-'--' '• ' 


1 itjn kj^»«»i-w-»-» .- -_■--..,.■ -i- — 

extra, g. «.. ill one vol. 8vo." 
The volume was bought by Boone for 
10a. 6d. It would provide interesting 
reading if it were possible to trace its present 
whereabouts. That the original and the 
parody should be bound together was 
e^ential. Robins's sale catalogue of t!ie 
" ClsBsic C'ontenta of Strawbeny Hill " 
should he accompaided by a copy of Croker'a 
'The Great Sale at Goosebery Hall witli 
Puffatory Remarks.' Axeok Abrahams. 

3}«, Hillniiirtou Rtjad, N. 

Howe's ' Shakespeare ' (10 S. vii. 69). — 
At first sight it is not, one is inclined to 
tliinlc, very probable that the only plays to 
be illustrated should be the six doubtful 
ones. That of itself, though not conclusive, 
lends some weight to the coniecture tliat 
Mb. Tl'dob's copy is imperfect. A reference 
to Mr. Sidney Lee's biography of Shake- 
speare and Lowndes's ' Bibliograpliical 
Manual ' does not throw much light on the 
subject, as in the former work there is no 
mention of there being any illuatrations to 
Rowe's edition, and the latter merely statt^ 
that it is "" the tirst small edition and tho 
first with plates." 

In his edition of Charles T.^mb's works 
Mr. Lucas gives a reproduction of one of 
the plates from Howe's ' Shtdiospeare ' 
(* Troilus and Cressida'), to which Lamb 
alludes in his Ehan essay * My First Play.' 
Mr, lAicas, however, gives no indication as 
to the edition of the plays from wliich it was | 

More conclusive evidence is perhaps to her 
found in a catalogue issued by Messrs. John 


NOTES AND QUERIES. no a vil fkb. 9,m 

& Kdivard BumpuB last December, in which 
one oi the items is Kowe's edition of Shake- 
siieftre'a works (7 vole., including the rare 
vohimo of the * Poems,' 1709-10). This is 
stated to contain ''numerous plates," 
besides the engraved frontispiece and vignette 
portrait. The six mentioned by Mr. Tudor 
would hardly com© under tiiat description, 
ao that 1 am afraid his copy must be an 
imi>eri'cet one, so far at leaat as the illus- 
trationa afo concerned. 


It is api^arent tJiat Me. Tudor'b sefc of the 
170U edition ia very imperfect. The fact 
ot' a book sho-ning no trace of the removal 
of leavrrt is a somewhat untrustworthy t^at 
of its cornplet-enees. It is vei*y easy to 
remove plates or pages when rebinding, and 
twca&ionally books are actually imperfect 
when they first leave the publifihers. The 
edition in question to be entire should 
fhxliibit a Irontiapieee portrait and a full-page 
plate before every play. Perfect sets can 
be consulted at the Britiah Museum and at 
the Bodleian. Birmingham and Cambridge 
also possess sots* Wm, Jaggabd- 

J, L, Toole (10 S- vi. 469).— Poisibly the 
following may be of some use t — 

'* If. Mils rtt the Havniar ket Thtjut re on the 22iul 
I if July. 18S!, or i-ather on the 23rtl of that uionth, 

I hilt hty [Tiitilel TiiiuJii liifi tirst vsvuiy as an ACtor, thu 

II nAHjiiii lieiiiK the iKsuctit of the Rt«ffe- manager Mv. 

Frc(k*n( k Wc^witLT nil cvyiiintf'a eiitcrtAinmeiit 

iii cxtnunTljriiii-y h'litith ' Tlic Merchant of 

Vunice' ill four uoIm ; then a oonet-rt ; and next the 
ciitJiiiily, ill thiTct-; fwjta, of *Mitid Ytmr Ovm Buai- 
iH-Hj?,' witli thu entirt? strongth of tht) Huynmrket 
l.''tmiMiny; foUowecl by ' KceW wortitsd hy Bueh- 
slOTiu'; and at nearer oiil* o clook than twelve, 
TtHtlc, rti^ Simnion*(, in ' Tho Spitftltields Wtiaver,' 
tnuBt hiivu mailn IiIh fii-ML ati|iiauitAiit;o with tUo 
Lniidim s*UiM€ ftfl a regular actor."—* RejireMriitfttive 
Attorn*,' by W. Clark RiirapII. 188S, ip, & 

Mr. Kussell gives the above from " a 
correspondent," not named. It is not 
I'lcar whether tho correflX'ondent speaks 
oi Toole' a firnt appearance afl a regular 
iUitor at any tlieatre or at a London theatre. 
]f the MS. note c[Uotc(l by Mk. Bult.och 
ivnd the account given above are both true, 
it i^ curiona that Toole's first appearance of 
all and his first London appearance* an a 
professional actor should have both been 
im " benefit " nights. 

In the obituary notice in The Times of 
31 July, 1906. is the following :— 

"Mr. Totilo, at tho age of 20, apjieared fnr one 
niuht at tht litHwidi tlieatl*, and joined a tlramatic 
t;luh at tho Wttlwortli lnHtitutt.'. It was tlione that 
he made the acfiuaidtiDtufe of hifl tirni frieitd and 
admirer, Charlei* Diokeiie, who had lieard of his 

talent and had come to itec him &ct.....It «*» 
tthottiy af t4jr Uiekens liad first seen him at Wtlvnlh ' 
tliat Sir. Tijoltj took a holiday in Dablm, wli«e 
Charles Dillon, the manager of the Queen h Th«itit, 
I NGmviaded him to act })ltiiTnona tii ^'^Fhe ^liWr 
field Si W(>r.' What correiq icindeiice Iiad \*md 
lietwceii Tijole and Dilloti before the chms of 
Ihiblin AW a huliday-rtssorfc we are not told. Atiny 
i^te, Ml'. Tooltj'a Hnect'HB was toiniedjate. and from 
that monitnt bt ^jecame a iirofeaaional actor." 

After a few lines about his doings in Xrelaod 
and Scotland, The Times says :^ 

'* III I8r>4 lie iniidc his Hi-st |»rofeaaional apin^rAOOfr 
iu Lotwlon, at the St. .Janies*H Theatre, then aiider 
tJxe nianat^ement of Mr». Keynimir.*' 

' The Dramatic Peerage/ by Erskine Reid 
and Herbert Compton^ 1892, says (p. 218) 
thft.t Toole " made his appearcmce at the 

old Theatre at Ip«wicli 1862.*' 

Robert PiEBponiT. 


Sori'ff}/ it* fhf (JomifYU Ifoti^. By T. H. S, ^cott. 

(Fisher Unwin.) 

Ttifrt ifl iuBt the J™k U\ afford delipbt to the- 

niaders of ' N. & Q..* for Mr, E.<}oott haa in its ptgu 

eoiidenfWfl the Hotial (jxiitrienet* and otiflerviitt(M» 

uf ft Ufetinic a^ well an tho literary work of .several 

yeors. In hiw dedicrttory preface to Major Alolhjenx 

he stjitoK that, "whunevei' it haa lieen chnno- 

higically i*OHflihle, tlit; eouiitry houses mentiODed 

are contined to thi»<e witli wliieh I am vet-ftoniUf 

ac^juftiiitetl. Describhiy, thcrefure, ohieHv. no fiur 

aa was iiOHsihh\ iierwonK and iilaoe^s actnally vidted 

hy me, a» a native of tlic aouth-wcjit. of Kngland,! 

havti uatiirally dwelt iiioHt on ground famihar froa 

jtR earliest A>i;SQciatioti»(." Mr. Eacott niaiiitUB* 

that the country hcuLit? nuly b^an to exist lte:T»^e« 

tlie tlvirt^^H^nth and fifteenth centuricH, the tr» 

UwrndnTs iDeiiiiJ: tJic franklins or wiiiirea, in who^ 

homes there wtisj fuirtt ami talk to miit alt tastn- 

"The nn;n had their itulitiON ; H*c ladies tcaioed 

what were the latest novultieti and vapariea in 

dress/' At that time rlawwa in thy oonimtmity mrr 

not sejiarated from eatli ntlier hy the modem gal^i 

and all iiorsonKiif lilwral eaUinj^ or education wew 

at least mutually a^* m ell known anronc themselvei 

as mcTnlHM-H cif a nindeni club. The frank lin'» 

hoH|>Jtahtien tnady him a imwer iu the land, and bi 

was far too wino a man t*j let theni exeedl bi» 

lueaiiJi. No oiiy wa.** welcomed with jft^MlKT «* 

Nideiatioix than tlie dottf>r, ahd the gne^t^! «0oB 

frequently receive fr<mi him rt^mcdial drujw, whiflfc 

he wnuUl iirtKince fnitn tlie repeswen of hirt aaip^ 

cloak. Tlit> leu^h nf the ducttu-'n viwit wa» ** 

Bidjjeot til restrietinu. but the erolcsiastio lia<H» 

eonttrut hinu+elf with three days, le*t he should l» 

temi'ti"*! tfi stay away tuo lom; from hi» H|iintail 

cure. ^ 

In treatiue i>n 'The Fashfnnahle Soiitli IXinrni 

Mr, Escntt shnws liow i>rolihc Stanmer ha-y be* 

in it^ HCX'ift! uffsiiirinc: Brighton and the Pavilisi 

were both its chihln^n. from tlic^j de^«ndit 

Bay ham AblK>y, Lamborhurat, and VNVst Uean. B 

was on Sunda}', the 7th of .Septenibor, 17S^ tbattkt 

vn.?»>.».iw:,i llOTES AND QUERIES. 

1 In thr 

|>U-t':il, Jii 
»li lo •' til. 

.1 .1... 

liy Ilia StAUWer bosta, 
jn»f\ there wnn A grv.nt 

,.,,,1.1 ..,, ti,.. ^».., „i \hv 

'•■ nnd 


Mr, EjKiott'M lK>i»k Jrti 


•'rotiB Inmi iiitKliluii («» U'pstaiiiislor oil tlu' 
huo«e in tliri<»« hntii-s MM«i turnly miruil*'^. 
I i*t«>]i|iiti>; ''Illy ut F'- 
Ithriwii. ' Out* o| th' '-^ 
lti» liiiitj: tluwn ]>il l« uij the 
fSlArim-. AUhou«hli iiishirrl. h« 
<lul *'a;n.'i»tuxc«;mioji,iii: u-mfs'cUinmcy 


Ii» the accoitiiit of I>>i :r»d that »mniic 

itlu' •uchiviv* arc liyniiiN I tt uufuhliKhed. 

1 We Imvf h(H ■« murli u in 'N. & O.,' 

' iVrtii IMn ' "in ''ohiniiiH for 

f iiiforiiiMt luit our i>ii.ltt,s 

iuUnwijti ^« hy-Mr Kxtott, 
I* All Anodyuf li«i I'ttiu ; — 

One day «»f i^un irn]iri»vt'- me tnore 

Tlmn ■ ' •-• ; 

Aii<Uo ...,,.,.,. ....... 

U(B g Urn J wen of 

u lii> have Jioen 

\V« lenni 

\ pv»?nitig, 


I V of 

:: . . : ! luriuti ■' A ix-tiiiiiit; JiiHii- 

ntm of jonniftiism in 

tn Pahner- 

Hoiise of 

■ It >>{ }am : 

M- lit* would Icatl 

, e T>t>uirliiMC<Kjk, 

' ' ' ■ Ttovel 

. tnit, 

K. S. 

ill liis runv4.r8Jitioii 

•(jltic'S, clerio/il or lay : 

r of >«iK'h lieiiiK 

hiir by thf laMt- 
'lid;; uw til thu 

.. ., ,>. ..ij. you 
*r.'" \V> Imve 

'■romp K,l)iMlri>tr 




.d the 





will' h h' \^"' 

Ht<tii and hi- 

Ci>n""""' <"i 





Tlu« elder hnvther. outliving Willijun }ty two years^ 
tontimied hit* li<>h|>itj»lity at ruriilKimu^rh till IM79. 
As is well knuw7j, the Mnjjin.iHs Knyviijf iiuruluisefl 
the estatt' from Mr. T. Nort-on I»iiuisiaii, nnd " nt 
the jiresent time the jmlace huilt oy un EiiKlislj 
publiMln^r is therefore the njoaunieiit of French 

It ia curious to read that xintil long int<» the 
sixties "the jtreHs" for the i»tem«e uwd to mean 
Th^' Timej; and tliAt Mi. Markhani 8i>oHortli tint 
''. iL'd '* tlie jKiwiT of the ]it?niiy newfti»a|>er." 

\v extracts we have bad s|MiCL* to i^v« hIiow 
I fund of inlnrnmlioii and amusement Mr. 
K?«<»it hns |>rovi(Jeil for hia rwidoj% and we can 
wt'U nee tiiat he has plenty more in reserve. 

I'lWo/ioM of Eu{f/n.nt/ aiitl. ira/r*. Edited by 

Frederick Arthur (Jrisp. Vol. XIII. (Privately 

This imiwrtant work jdteadily increases in value. 
The i»lnn on which it is arranged is excellent, ami 
\s must oniiseieiitiouKly carried out. Nony of the 
genealoiiies K^'es hack to renrote times. The jn'tl i«i ee« 
Kiven almoBt hU of them beuin in the eijjhteenth 
c><Mittu'y, rtfid are carried doWTi to the jiresetit day. 
This is *iH it should he. The more reinote lines of 
riescent, if they exiKt, are oonmjonly acce.nsihle in 
other wnrkn of reference ; hut it is* niost (hjiHirahle 
for us tu ha\e in a tahuhited fonu the recent 
evolution f»f eonteinporsry fHinilien. If the old 
hertildt*. -when they coriipiletl their viaitations, had 
l»eun a!^ careful »w» Mr. Crisqi, nmeh knowhxlge 
w«j\ild have been prenerved that is now lost l)eyond 

The vohnne befoiv U8 contains minute detaiU 
rej;HrtliiiK tlie niofierjj descent of hix peers and three 
Itaroneta with their relative.^, in a much fuller form 
than in to Ikj found elsewhere. These elabcirate 
coiiipilations must have i>een ii work of imruetiso 
IfllKiur, nnd w> far as renaids the furnilie.s with 
whorio hiBtory we ar*e ftc<jm\inled, we njf .sure that 
a hijjth level of noeuraey has lieen arrived At. 
Indee<l, we have not come mjcin a single ermr, 
thoujih in-stancc* might l>e ixnnted out where it 
se«Mnn to have Ii*mmi iui|M»Hsihle to give full details. 

Ftitxu-e hiHtofiHPiB and genealogist*, not only «•( 
this f5i>untry. but of by far the greater iinrt of' the 
<'iviliy.e<l world, cannot but l>e grateful to Mr, 
Cinsi* : for* the British race is now qo widely 
seatterefl that M'ithoul an elalMii-ate com[tilation o'l 
this nature it would Ik? virtually irnjHi^^ijlile to trnt>e^ 
the ortgina of many who in after days may beeoim* 
noteworthy. As example-s we may clraw attention 
to the fact that in the volume Iwfore us the faniilitn^ 
of Vidlei. (imham. .Auden, and Sjicddiiiti hove^ 
colonial r'epreweutatives. 

Wy are xhid to tirul that the arms of the various'^ 
fan»ilif.'>< ai*e v-nven. anil a note is fumishe<l in each 
rase I'elatin;; t«i t.h(»f«e which ore on the register of 
the Colleiie of Arni9. 

The T*'"<*''-''T*''e of the Ttrescnt Karl NHwn is mo«l 

I to it Ir'S"' I 'i;)'.r any 

VVc nr«r ■.• that 

. .; „ 111 Iso fount Ii Th«» 

111 !ns iiie givt'ii m a tuli-pai^e euKraving. Tbt^y were 

"fiiuiit-d at ft tiiuf wh*M« witrti we niav call the 

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Poem^ of Lotiff fellow. Selected and with an Intro- 
duction by George Saiutabury. (T. C. & E. C. 
Poemtt of Herrick. Selected and with an Intro- 
duction by the Rev. Canon Beeching, D.D. 
(Same publishers.) 
Thouoh announced as selections, these additions 
to Mr. Oliphant Smeaton's series " The Golden 
Poets " are sufficiently comprehensire to be classed 
as works. They contain striking iKirtrait vignettes 
and i>retty and characteristic desitois in colour, and 
are aeligKtfuI ixMssessions. How tasteful is in each 
instance the selection is vouched for by the judgment 
and knowledge of the resi>ective editors. 

A Dictionary of Political PhrauM ami AllimioiM. 
By Hugh Montgomery (Barrister-at-Law) and 
Philip G. Cambray. (Sonnenschein ft; C!o.) 
This latest addition to "Sonnenschein's Reference 
Series" is specially useful in newspaper offices. Moat 
of the phrases explained are of modem employ- 
ment and application, as West Riding Case and 
SwfiidesUe Movement. Under heads such as Tory, 
however, some archaic information is supplied. A 
^hort bibliography is given in an appendix. 

To " The World's Classics," in the cheap, satis- 
factory, and attractive series of Mr. Frowde, have 
been added The ProftMW ai the BreakfoMt TaUe 
a-nd The Poet at the BreakfaM TaMe of Oliver 
Wendell Holmes, each with an introduction by W. 
Robertson Nicoll; Scott's Zrii'M of the NoveliMt«t 
with an interesting ju-eface by Austin Dobson; 

witli an introduction by Joseph Knight. These 
various works are issued in olotn and in attractive 
bindings, and form a worthy addition to a memor- 
able series. 

An article of great interest and value is that in 
The Fortinghflfi by Mr. Andrew Lang on * Shelley's 
Oxford Martyrdom.' It is hard to get at tne 
truth concerning Shelley, who, as every Shelleyan 
81)eoialiHt admits, was mythopoeic himself, and a 
cause of mythniakiiig in others. Concerning the 
<lon8 of University College Mr. Lang holds that 
'* thoy took a cruel and mean revenge on a boy who 
HetniiH to have treated them habitually in a cavalier 
manner, and who had now given them an opiwr- 
luiiity." "The conclusion of the whole matter is 
timt the player of the pranks ])layed one set of 
pranks too many, and that his dons seized the 
ohuiiee to get rid of him." Mr. Frances Gribble, 
writing on Longfellow, says much that is true, but 
IH far f n)ni doing justice to the merits of some of 
liis later verse. Mr. Teignmouth Shore writes 
Hcnsibly on ' The Craft of the Advertiser.' Mr. 
Edgeumbe Staley has some suggestions concerning 
the use to which the parks and squares of London 
may be put. 

What really amounts to a double number of The 
Nineteenth Centuri/ is largely— it may be said mainly 
— occupied with the revived Channel Tunnel pro- 
ject. In addition to articles by modem authorities, 
a supplement is given entitled The Channel Tunnel 
and Public Opinion,' a reprint of a pamphlet 
directed against the scheme published in 1883. 
Under the title ' Ibsen's Imperialism ' Mr. William 
Archer gives a criticism — ^unfavourable in the main 
—of the Scandinavian {loet's * Emperor and Gali- 
lean.' This dramatic article is flanked by Mr. F. R. 

Benson's 'An Attempt to revive the 1 
Habit,' and Mr. Baughan's *Tlie Backs 
Drama.' Mr. John Nisbet has an import 
on ' The Forests of India and their Admini 
Mr. Adolphus Vane Tempest bewails * T 
of Manners.' Mrs. John Lane writes arou 
usual, on ' The Tragedy of the " Ex " ' : j 
Burghclere has an elegant rendering 
Marrii^^e of Peleus and Thetis * after Cati 

Me. Lionel Cust, M.V.O., writes autho 
in The Comhill on * The Royal Collectic 
tures * and gives a highly interesting a* 
the share of successive monarchs inprocui 
An edifying article by Sir Algernon Wesi 
*Tempora Mutantur,' awakes some ouri< 
lections of political ant^onisms. We cot 
from personal knowledge instances sue 
quoted. * Under the Ited Cross in 1870 
proof of British unixjimlarity in Franct 
epoch. Mr. A. W. Pollard has an import 
on 'Four Centuries of Book-Prices.* MissM 
has an interesting study of * The Lisbon < 
and Blake.' 

The frontispiece to The BurUngfon con 
suTKsrb reproduction of 'The Two Nyi 
Palma Vecchio. ' The Gobelin Factory i 
of its Work ' is an excellent and brillia: 
trated article by Lady St. John. Thre 
designs to this are from the French Embas 
'The Creation of Eve' is from a dr. 
William Blake in the possession of M 
Sabin. A newly discovered portrait by . 
de Predis, ' The Lady with a Weasel,' by 
da Vinci, a bust of Beatrice d'E^te, and a 
of Lucrezio Crivelli, together with ' Casso 
in American Collections,' are specially no 
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vii. nn. ifi. 19U7.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


: i HNTS-Xn. 164, 

I^iii.l. of .Icwiah Kxtmcliun? Vil— 

-t-. < l- — l'""! !■■' ' - P"l|. 

^ * be UtttaX — "111', 
I— Sir Henry U<. 

*~r^ ' rf— ■St'i'pnr) 4. ........ .«.ij..ikj,ii 

Iford. Ii7. 

<:Hrlo (JoMi.nt'- Bi.Hiitt'rtr.rv, 127 

mi,i- ''ni.- * I , ' h, i : 'I'll.. 

Itrv..r;' '. -I Ir-l ■■ i 
J's Uooiu. I 
JhisL — Th- 

Brt- ..f LL.I^ 

. lore, UJ — 

111 >^ Daughter 

\\ I . ' 

,-^N)tt IllutU^Um, inn — i^linlmrKb ^tactt: 

Plmir: J.^Mah. 1«1— Sir John Bamartl'a IJe- 

" • -•■ -t >iV'-tion of 'l1iiouffht«' 

PiiTeiiU— *^The 

UK Abbey — Con- 

<»rwell Th*n 


■\for(l RimkI, 

" AnoD " — 

. 136-I>oIa 

i -..g Tmy ■'- 


jcV ' Uuihil>uila' — Ma^Uire* ' lli»Uiric Uiilb^' — 


BAS, 3ay3 the Talmud, Ezekiel 
ho life and pageantry of Courta 
> gorgeousnesft of an awestruck 
irman, fiiaiah <iescribes them with 
of a Hiirfcited Bight^ieer. Charles 
(cms to €Mnbracfi both aspects of 
phetical figures. When he talks of 
u«nje«, of his friends and relations, 
and actors, of South Sea House 
r the? old Benchers of the Inner Temple, 
groimd when? I^igh Hunt or 
io<?« not 8urpBi43 hira in sobriety and 

jipnt. Hirf alt)ufne6!» ia superb, and 

Ptool of the Aryan *liine« resplendently 
iJut when lie launchea into a 
|oa on roast pig, or tackles the 
t4>pic of Jpw9, he loses liis 
I I tin to borrow the 
! the energA' of tlae 
! Ill Tun or earneat no one 
{i I in, but ho lays to and 

utihappy Isra-elitea with the 

zeal of a fanatic, and extols the material 
joys of '* crackUng '* with a savage gusto 
born of a newly aiipropriated taate. Hi* 
apparent affection for sucking-pig dtsplayic 
the wan nth of a virtuoso and the keenijes.'* 
of a proselyte. All this time he may * be 
lauglung up Ilia sleeve at us. Those habits of 
myHtification were carried to extraordinary' 
lengths, till we never know wliether he is not, 
after all, poking fun at us. 

!Now, unless 1 am grossly raialed, this unique 
divergence from his normal style and method 
can only bo accounted for on the assmnption 
of a mental twist due to Semitic in-breeding 
or cross-fertih nation. Of an unliappy fer- 
ment within him Lamb was quite conscious, 
for he often alludet* to it in the oddest of 
8elf-conimuning.'* and in the most pathetio 
of self-questionings. Probably Iiis worldlv- 
wise brother (who knew all about it) migfit 
have enlightened ixim, had he thought fit 
(which he did not). 

I have already alluded to Lamb's ingrained 
love of mystification, which, if my deduc- 
tions are valid, we may fearles-sly set down 
to liereditary influences antl to anceBtral 
instincts. So far, the family history enda 
in Lincoln, whence Jolin Lamb came up to 
London to seek his fortune. Lamb's own 
account of his remarkable parent contain.'? 
matter for lively speculation. He seems to 
have been a man of parts and of ability 
above the common run, with a heart a^ 
tender as a woman's, " He had the merriest 
quips and conceits, and w€w altogether as 
brimful of rogueries and inventions as you 
could desire.'* Such a man was not *' bom 
to serve his brethren," but became in course 
of time the major domo and the close friend 
of his employer Salt. His fidelity and devo- 
tion to Salt's interests were tiie outcome 
of gratitude for sitontaneous suoi:i of gene- 
roeity on the part of the famous old Bencher. 
Now gratitude is one of the root-traits of 
the Jewish race. However, if John Lamb 
knew all about the history of Iiis family and 
of its wanderings, we may be sure the lad, on 
coming up to town, soon learnt the wisdom 
of reticence. Jews M'cro not exactly popular 
idols. The cotmtry set^thed from end to end 
with subdued hatred of them, ami it flamed 
out violently when Henry Pelham in 1755 
brought in the detested Naturalization Bill. 
In his daily rambles about the City, John 
saw around him everywhere the odious 
" No Jews, no wooden shoes,'* chalked uji 
on walls and hoardings by a howling and 
infuriated mob. Well, John's sympathies, 
we may be sure, were not with the tor- 
mentors of those hapleas vi8xidL«teT%% \«c 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. t^ 

Charles Lamb has told us, " In the cause 
of the oppressed he never considered 
inequalities or calculated the number of his 
opponents." Furthermore, to judge from 
Lamb's portrait in the Guildhall and &om 
De Quincey's not unfavourable criticism, it 
would appear that the founders of the familv 
were originally Spanish Jews — " Marranos ' 
or crypto-Hebrews — furtively practising the 
religion of their ancestors (after passing 
through the waters of baptism and swearing 
fealty to the Apostolic Church) until they 
were betrayed by the cupidity of spies, and 
c;ompelled to fly for safety to Holland, 
whence, later in the seventeenth century, 
branches of the family migrated to Lincoln, 
where they settled down and intermarried 
with local non-Jewish elements. 

Within the limits at my disposal, I can 
only say briefly that there is nothing in 
Elia's writings, biographical and epistolary, 
which is a priori incompatible with my 
hypothesis. The tragedy of his life is the 
story of Israel retold. His letters in par- 
ticular are an inexhaustible mine where 
students of heredity will find ample subject- 
matter. Such unadulterated humour could 
only be beaten out on the anvil of profound 
human agony. Israel is the livingembodiment 
of this. Despite its countless vicissitudes, 
Israel still retains the heart of its boyhood 
and the freshness of its youth. 

M. L. K. Breslab. 

Percy House, South Hackney. 


A FEW details relating to Thomas Seward 
(see antCy p. 83) may be added to the notices 
in the * D.N.B.' and in the volume of * Ad- 
missions to the College of St. John the 
Evangelist, Cambridge,' Part III., ed. by 
R. F. Scott, 1903. 

He was a brother of the William Seward, 
gent., " companion in travel with the 
Reverend Mr. George Whitefield," who 
published in 1740 a journal of a voyage from 
Savannah to Philadelphia, and from Phila- 
delphia to England. It is stated in this 
journal (p. 82) that after Lord Charles 
Fitzroy's death Thomas Seward was chaplain 
to a man-of-war commanded by Lord 
Augustus Fitzroy, and that a benefice worth 
4()W. a year was given him by Lord Bur- 
lington. This was no doubt the rectory of 
Eyam, which is still in the gift of the Caven- 
dish family. 

It woM appear from Dr. Johnson's 
letter to Taylor and irom Gray's letter to 

Mason that in 1742, and again in 
desired to exchange this living for 
laincy on the establishment of t 
Lieutenant of Ireland, then a C 
(Johnson's * Letters,' ed. Biill, i. 10 
* Letters,' ed. Tovey, i. 282). The c 
sermon which he preached in 1766 
plague at Eyam is referred to in 
Seward's * Anecdotes ' (1798 ed.), ii. 
A stanza by Dr. Darwin, one lie 
sets out that " by Seward's arm the 
Beaumont bled,'^ is quoted in Ernst 
*Life of Erasmus Darwin* (1887] 
John Byrom on 13 April, 1737,' 

green tea " with him, and talked 
is correction upon * Timon ' " (* H 
ii. pt. i. 104). A long letter from 
Sir William Bunbury, pointing ou 
name of Sir Thomas Hanmer some 
in Warburton's edition of Shakes] 
in Hanmer's * Correspondence,' pp. ; 
Seward's wife died on 31 Jul- 
aged 66. His second daughter dii 
1764, aged 19, " on the eve of her n 
Mother and daughter were buriec 
" lady-chou- " of Lichfield Cathedral, 
other daughters and one brother 
infancy {Oent. Mag., 1781, p. 624 
pt. i. 378). Seward wrote the 
inscription on the temporary monv 
Gilbert Wahnesley (»6., 1786, pt. i. 1 

When Green was made Bishop of 
the claims of Seward, their commoi 
to a prebendal stall in that cathed 
urged upon him by Bishop Newton, 
promised to keep them m mind, 1 
that he was *' then engaged elever 
When fifteen years had pcused the 
offered Seward a stall, but he asked 
might waive his claim in favour of 
his wife's nephew (Newton, 'Au 
1782 ed., pp. 113-14). 

Anna Seward left to Sir Walter 
manuscript collection of her father's 
some of which were unpublished ( 
of Anna Seward,' i. p. iv, Ac. ). 

W. P. CouB- 


(See ant^, p. 81.) 

The Millbank end of Horseferr 
remains as in the previous yecur, i 
changes Ukely to take place at the ot 
have not begun, though a portion oi 
wood's pianoforte factory is nov 
utilized by the garage of the London '. 
bus Company. Nos. 69, 71, 73, an 

va I ifc 16, m:.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

>\d houaes with long front 
< deniolished in May to make 
..[ , 1 I - - and dirill hall of 

\W; 1-*. The foimda- 

^&toui? V. a- .Mi..i ni iiie commencement 
JJuly» and lias remained saunt and 
Dothinv: more having been done. 
Golden Grain Bread Company went 
liquidation during the year, and the 
' ttve i>remise>. 9^ to 105, Hor^efeir^- 
were closed. They were offered at 
[), but did not secure a pm'chaser. 
cent Sqtiare, so long free from the 
der's hand, lias of late years become 
^centre of lii*' haiKiiwork, The two houses 
It*? in the o' -1 of Messi^s. Bu<ld and 

Himrh v.- . lished in March, and 

t hmldmg for the use of the 
Technical Institute at once 
I Ilia was hurried on at first, but for 
iral months th^" works were at a stand- 
though it is stateil that they will 
ilily be comphttd by the L.CC On 
^ the square backing on to Vauxliall 
oad, at the comer of Alfred Street, 
f CTOund unoccupied for maiiy years 
pmg; utiUzed for the erection of a 
for the treatment of iiifantile 
It is to be known eis the Infants' 
the w'cretary being Mr. E. K. 
of 120. Victoria Street, S.W. The 
is at present being carried on at 
ing Koad, Hampstead. The plot of 
id between tlie square and Rochester 
had not, at the end of the year, found 
' ritn>)iBAi*r, but rumour says that the Koyal 
Uural Stjciety finds the acconmioda- 
im r»M'i»ntly erected hall not sufficient 
its, and has had some idea 
Tot ground; but apparently 
juif has been decided on, as 
Jits still remain in ijossession. 
oat IMacM a very hea\'>' piece of 
was l>egiJti on o Mai'ch in tlie 
of four large rooms (one on each 
to the warehouse belonging to the 
biy and Xavv (^o-o|>erative Society ; 
on 22 September the drapen,' de])art- 
irtiinenced business in this, tiieir 
re. The new station of the 
L IP, also in Greycoat Place, was 
itl fiirlj- in the year. Shortly after- 
rtr old Mtation in Howick Place was 
The oftioifll opening of the new 
m tc'tk plrtrr on 22 May, and Fire and 
[{t in fjf the brigade) for that 

il a Rood ilhu^tration and 

I l>ourhoOil of Vaux- 
lifiKi Ki'Tt' were many changes 

during the past year. First came the o^jjen- 
ing of the new bridge - 

TliLS long-looked-for event took place 
on 26 May. The structure lias been much 
criticized, pubhe opinion not being altogether 
favourable. The bridge has tsome j^ecu- 
liaritie^ in design, notably the balustrades. 
It is a useful structiue, and appears to be 
well suited for its jnu-i^ose. The electrifica- 
tion of the roadway Ix-gan on 27 February^ 
and proceeded with great rapidity, the Urat 
electric car being run along this route on 
Sunday, 5 August, Mr. John Burns, the 
President of the Local Govenunent Board, 
being a passenger. The work of preparing 
the road waa ver>' arduous, i)articularly at 
the junction with Edward Street, where 
the gas mains, sewers, and other pipes 
required careful management. At the junc- 
tion with Francis .Street and Tachbrook 
Street there was also .some heaw work in 
connexion with lowering the crown of the 
King's Scholars' Pond Sewer, in order to 
obviate an awkward rise in the road. I 
would refer readers to The Westminster and 
Fimlico News of 23 March. l\h)6, where 1 
published a short account of this old sewer. 
Tlie building known as Hopkinson House. 
at the comer of Vauxhall Bridge Road and 
Edward Street, was completed early in the 
year, and occujned at «>iicp. but was officially 
opened by Sir John Wolfe Barr>- on 22 March, 
and has already been declared to fill the want 
that was stated to exist at the time of the 
inception of the idea. An interesting 
account of the opening ceremony appeared 
in The Daily Graphic. A plot of land 
between Regency Street and Causton Street, 
from which many years ago the houses 
were removed, was further enlarged by the 
demolition of another housp in Vauxhall 
Bridge Road. On the ojiposite side of the 
road, the building alluded to in last year's 
summary as being placed upon the site of a 
portion of Lane's Lamidry, which in its turn 
succeeded Bass's Assembly Rooms, was com- 
pleted, and was forthwith occupied as show- 
rooms, garage, and depot for the Decau^•ille 
motor-cars and for motor accesssorics. 

About the middle of the year some ex- 
tensive repaii's were found necessary at 
Holy Trinity Churcli, situateii in Bessborough 
Gardens, justly spoken of as a " beautiful 
modem example of the ICarly Decorated 
style " ; and it may be mentioned as being 
one of the first ecclesiastical structiu^s 
wlueh we owe to the eminent arcliitect the 
late Mr. J. L. Pearson. R.A. It was the 
gift of .Archde«K;on Bentinck, tlie prede- 
cessor of Dr. CluTstopher ^Vo^:da.^o\^\\ V«.Vx«t- 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. feb. \t,m. 

words Bishop of Lincoln) at Westminster 
Abbey. The first stone was laid by Mrs. 
Bentinck in November, 1842, the consecra- 
tion taking place in 1852. There have 
been three incumbents: tlie Rev. C. F. 
Secretan; the Rev. W. Rayner Cosens, 
D.D. ; and the present vicar, the Rev. 
George Miller, who has held the Uving for 
thirty-six years. Some of the stonework 
had so far decayed that an accident was 
feared, as many of the blocks were, by the 
acids of the atmosphere, much in the state 
of bars of salt. 

The buildings in Bulinga Street and 
Atterbury Street went on well, the Army 
Military College, in the latter thoroughfare, 
being in a forward state, while the Alexcmdra 
Military Nursing Home, in the former street, 
with another frontage to Earl Street, will 
soon be ready for opening. I find that the 
Army Hospital was officially opened on 
1 July, 1906. a fact I could not ascertain 
last year. The temporary bridge which 
did duty during the rebuilding of Vauxhall 
Bridge is to be removed ; but the end of the 
year did not witness the commencement 
of this work. 

In Regency Street about five or six years 
ago some alterations were begun, but lagged 
very much. Between Page Street and 
Vincent Street three large blocks of resi- 
dences — named Norfolk, ftobyn, and Jessel 
Houses, after the first three Mayors of the 
reconstituted City of Westminster — were 
begun in 1901, and have been occupied for 
some time. At the comer of Page Street was 
formerly situated the Regent Music-Hail, 
one of the best-designed buildings devoted 
to public amusements. Its proprietor was 
Mr. Shedlock, a gentleman connected for 
many years with the old brewery firm of 
Joseph Carter, Wood & Son. The venture 
was not a success, the entertainments being, 
as a rule, much in advance of the day, as 
was the case with the Strand Music-Hall, 
the predecessor of the old Gaiety Theatre. 
The architect of the hall was Mr. Ridley, 
a well-known member of the Westminster 

During the'year just closed the old West- 
minster Radical Club, at the comer of 
Chapter Street, was, with some other houses, 
•demolished, and on the ground thus cleared 
some flats have been erected ; they are 
numbered 40 to 44 Regency Street, 2 to 16 
Chapter Street, 1 to 12 Frederick Street, 
and 27 to 42 Hide Place. On a portion of 
the land cleared, from the hall used by the 
Salvation Army to the comer of Causton 
IStreet, a large building is in progress for 

the Commissioners of the Metropofitaa 

In Strutton Ground, on the west side, ax 
houses — 20 to 30, even numbers— hftva 
been demolished, and the land is open for 
purchase by the highest bidder. On the 
opposite side, at the comer of Great Petef 
Street, a house (No. 51) reported to be b 
dangerous structure was summarily closed 
by police authority on Wednesday, 16 May, 
the people being then and there ejected; 
almost immediately the house wasdemolisbed, 
and no building has yet been raised in itJ 
place. The new wing of the Greycoat 
Hospital, erected by the governors in order 
that the teaching staff might have increased 
accommodation, was duly completed, the 
formal opening taking place on Monday, 
22 October, when a large concourse of West- 
minster people was present. It is worthy of 
note that Mr. Clement Y. Sturge, L.C.C, 
generously gave some very beautiful carvings, 
which adorn the chimneypieces in the various 
classrooms, whereby the beauty of the build- 
ing is much enhanced. I tmnk that tlus 
completes my summary of the changes in 
the pcuish of St. John the Evangelist for the 
past yeeu". 

Those for St. Margaret*s are not quite so 
numerous, but some of them are of con- 
I siderable interest. First, as of right, cows 
I the extensive works completed, so far as 
the parish church is concerned, and in 
progress so far as relates to Westminster 
Abbey. The alterations in connexion vith 
the latter structure are of much magnitude, 
and several years will elapse before the 
works in the north transept and north aisle 
are finished. The scheme for the venerable 
Abbey, which will occupy five years and 
cost 20,000?.— so said The People of 16 July 
last — embraces part of the great north 
recessed portico, and the whole of the north 
transept. Tlie stonework and beautiful 
rose window are much decayed and fretted 
— the effect of time and London's higWy 
charged chemical atmosphere, which is 
very detrimental to Bath stone. Many of 
the sensational stories now current art 
entirely devoid of foundation. 

Tlie various works at St, Margaret's 
Church — the rebuilding of the east waDt 
underpinning the south-east comer of the 
south aisle, and releading the fine old 
east window — were successfidly accona- 
plished. The extended chancel was dedi- 
cated by the Bishop of London on the 
afternoon of Sunday, 15 July. The ne* 
reredos looked somewhat garish when firlt 
exposed to view, but since that time it htf 

4,1 \ 
Fitit Jfi, 1907.) 


'■rj-\- considerably, and seems 

ng with the sober aspect of 

l><<iUoii& oi tliib famous old build- 

rork thus brought to a successful 

stly, but now, s-een in its entirety, 

Btinct gain from everj' point of view. 

"he tionuitorj- of Wentminster Scliool, 

be »een from Great College Street, 

liaa been added an additional atory, 

evoted to the purpose, at least in part, 

I isolation ward in case of infectious 

B, thoiigli I hope that it may not be 

i for IhiH purpotie. 

W. E. Habljlxd-Oxley. 

(Toltc coHdittit<L) 


llowit»K is a tranalation of the original 
\ draft, in my poaseaaion, of a petition 
BS the Prince of ^lonaco to the celebrated 
Ite^ in 1794. The Prince and Princess 
H|>oth imprisoned under the Terror. 
^wvived ; slie cut off her beautiful haii', 
ujied to save her life by falsely pleading 
"^ ceinte, and died heroically. 
fPuitioH to thr yntionaf Coitrfntiou. 

- 1' r , V 1 than 
hsi |»ast 

ifl ht j-» lii Uajiu*-'* "1 loHi»K Uu- ; this man. 
!«?«*. mJio up|iei.ilM now to your juntiet*, ana 

I- Hu luaiiv I him, i« 

r.t'oiK.f Ci II. . . I ■ ^..1 I y I*nn<M.» 

'iti^ik I iK-iciii ttil.v oi FrniKT. 

'■> hmi rth' I the riHwt siiicctv and 

.n .-», .1. r, and who thought he 

luved it hy thr ' .Ntfinoir" which 

I he Nalioiial Citinrntion. 'J't Fvi- 

auJ t'l whoiii, tinall>% your ])i]»lnniHti(< 

;te».' heut, in niakijur, II Fri", ITiW, their 

Lu)iOti thr riMJuinn thi»t tht?y luid decreed of 

'htry to th«- FrencJv RepuHlte, and >iaU\ that 

' ' alwiivs K«%e |init««ctioti and a safeirimrd 

ould Wdouj; to him, in the clmrocter of 

,, Ivrtutir addiXiMpd to the Ntttiorml Con- 

, 28 Frirniitrx', which wiw sent Iwick to itn 

of Safety and Health. Homu-*^ 

|cl<' 'h* writiniz here «ul»ioiiicd : he 

IMiiiit i»t xiewr. the fcirmer 

M>t W e<.»n'<idere<l a<* a 8u»i<ect 

noli Nutiuu. uor ikrre*t(Kl as sncli, when 

li« ha* lint t(o»iM «Mtt nf PariM ^inee the 

' ' ' ' ' ill it, in 

MI,. He 

I. that Jf 

UtUl in the mul.i w.lie*v the Ul^el'ty «f 

^d» ought to hiiVf Ikhmi iiioi*e i*«.'ni]*u- 

' ' '1 ''. it \t- ill Fnmoe, 

1 1 with tnore eoiiH- 

'"\uiitiiu' "11 !iviiit: 

' nud U.I 1 lid 

^Do thaf I ! 111- 

B, and tliut \"ui i'i|.i'»iiiaiiL- < ..luimUee 

had Tias.'sefl and cnnsoliduted in the Hejiorl that 
tlH'V hinl made on it, 14 Fii., \7.Kl 

Honore (iriiualdi demand)*. Citizen?, tJiat tlie- 
writing annexe*! to the Petition hen* dranii u|» 
Mhonid U^ joined to the MenmHal which he sent 
huek to the National Convention. tJC Friniaire, 
and Mhich it Im.* returnetl to the Comniittee of 
Piihlie Safety and Health ; and lie i>iiiys you, in tlie 
name of the hnmauify aud justice with whieh you 
are animated, to chaiTje these tw<j Commit t-ees to 
make a ]in>nij>t ReiKirt ujion that trhicli concenit' 
him, the ohjeot t>f his a|i]K»tl. 

Hoiiore (• in rtrtj Mon-f/, prays you alao, 
CitizeiiM. to divert, ./or an h'^fnuf, thf XcUitmnJ' 
Co»i'tittlon fttnn thr impot'tanr iroHn irhirh ifcrvpy 
it uiirf(L'«ini//t/, tint if it in'/f dritjit to oliservt* that it 
is an old inHrni man, an ally and de|>endent of the 
French Nation, who lias not merited any reproach 
to make him aiiineheiwive on his ]HU't. ajid who yet 
ha.s licen detained tor nearly ti\e months past, they 
viJI uot /nil to tittfl it rriff iintnraJ (hat ht nhoiiftl 
claim hit filMrtf/, and will take into oonsideratiou 
the |Hjsition in which he finds himself, and in re- 
oeivinji favourahly hin jn>i<eal, the National Coii- 
veiilioii will jinive to all Kurope that it will lie 
roJlur justice fhnit forrr that it will consider in the 
a|«i)ertlB that other Allies umy iiddi-e(»s to it. 

At Parii-, 12 Pluviose. 

Note. -It will seem prnjicr to cn|iy entire tlie- 
article <jf the Rei>ort ot tlie Citixen Camot which 
hi-^ ronrt t-Hfd, coricernH my jiersun. 

The itahcized words are crossed out in. 
the original. The word.s ** to divert " in the 
second line of the last paragraph of the 
petition should have been crossed out. 

D. J. 

Oxford Graduates^ 1075-84. — In the 
* Calendar of the Ormonde MSS.,' new series,- 
vol. iv.f recently issued by the Historical 
Manuscripts CuinmisMion, there is a long 
series of letters from Ormonde as Chancellor, 
asking for various dLsijensations, &c,, for 
more than 300 Oxford men. This ll-it ahouild 
be noted by all who are interested, for in. 
many cases biojfraphical fact.^ are mentioned. 
The letters occupy pp. 699-041, and the- 
names are indexed on pp. 710-13. 

W. C, B, 

School Slang at Ross all,— It may b» 
worth while to put on record in * N. & Q.' 
the slang in use at Rossall in July, 1906— 
school terminology' so quickly changes. 

1. The following abbreviations were in 
vogue : Mu(8eum), Bani(torium), ho8(pital),. 
puni(8hment school), compul(8orj' cricket, 
football, or hockey), enter(tainment). 

2. The last is on the borderline of the 
formations originated at Harrow, and sinco 
disseminated everj^where ; brekker ( = break- 
fast). Blacker ( = Blackpool), collegger ( = col- 
lection). Perhaps other formations lik& 
these, however, are dying out : '* exliibigger'* 
(exhibition) is dead. 

3. More distinctive are : scanty ^O' wokaMw 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vii. feb. m;k 

Toll» by masters called a cob) ; Flood < Fleet- 
wood), biff (=to cane), stub (in one house 
*' root "= kick), gut (—to guzzlejj d^ 
(= doctor), clew (=sto hit}, blood ( = a pro- 
loment boy). 

4. Of tlie American type were : mystery 
bag {=riseolet or meatball )» private tii(itioii) 
with the guntz (^piiaisliment school in 

•charge of a sergeant). 

5, Idioms used were : It *b rip (=delight- 
'ful), to stick it (=endurc!«» stand it), Is there 

a bully (crowd) at the tuck (shoip) ? It *s on 
bell (neorlv time for the bell to ring). 

T. X. 

Pahish Bull akd Bo.tR. — The following 
is a sixteentli -century- action for consequen- 
tial damage to parishioner Yelding, through 
the failure of parson Fay to observe the 
parish custom for the parson to ke«p the 
•above animals : — 
_'* Trinity m ¥Mr., j^nt. ft48. Aceion eur le cafie jter 
Yeldiiiff yei-H Fuy, t*t ilfroUuxs iiite k cuRtonie del 
l>anflh fuit t.|iiu le jmrHOii ad ^nl un Bidl et iiti Ekiat' 
Ijur I'inereaHe del ftjittk* ties inhalntAiitF* deins le 
parJBh : et montrt* (|ue It dof o^ientit jtarHun et Jl* pi' 
inhabitant, letlcf n'ftU trarilu U' Btill ivuii Bcrni* jier 
4 ana ^'tifieftiblff nl tlniiiA|;e iv }A\ Le duf iirinfit le 
■cvistome \iev pnavstjitioji, at lti\AvA non €fif[i\ Kt 
adjudge Bvir ileniiuicr pro i|uer\ ijiiia riicoion ]^\nt" 

BLtrnUEB OF A Tbanslator of the 
"VuLQATE.^A curious blunder in the A.-S. 
translation of Exod. x\\ 1 may occasion 
■trouble to the student of ' E ad wine's 
Canterbury Psalter' (E.E.T.S,), wherein 
*' equum et ascensorem " (Cantieum Moysi. 
V. I) are rendered " Emlice & ffistigendV." 
Emlice, for tf entice ^ points, of course, to the 
translator having read equum as c^quum, 

H. P. L. 

TARfAA Legend or Alexander thk 

Gbeat,— To vol. xxi. of the Transactions of 

the Society for the Study of Archaeology-, 

Ac, in connexion with Kazan University, 

Mr. X. Y. Sarkin contributes the following 

Kirghiz tradition of Alexander of Macedoji 

(Iskander Zu'1-kamein). The monarch had 

horns, the existence of which his subjects 

•did not suspect. As Iskander feared that 

the rumour would conduce to his death, 

•every barber was killed after completing 

his task on the prince. Gratification o'f 

•every earthly 'n^sh was not enough to satisfy 

him, and having )ieard of the w-ater of 

immortality he »ent two vizirs, Kidir and 

Elias, in quest of it. During their absence 

Iskander required the services of a barber. 

«nd on this occasion promised to spare tlie 

man's life if h© could keex> the secret. The 

t)«rber did so for some time, but reticence 

became intolerable, no he wluapered theirart 
into a well. The fishes heard, repeaieiit 
all over the steppe, and a Jierdsman tratoog 
his ilocka learned it. The prince's tine to 
die arrived, and when tlie emissaries retoraid 
with the water it was too late to save ten* 
The vizirs Kidir and Elias became immoitij, 
the former of whom wanders invisibly orff 
the earth, seeking to aid good men* Thib 
t he lat t er c h i efly watches over cattle. Stnnt 
Kirghiz believe that rain isi the wat« of 
immortality, while the vizirs appeBi* to 
correspond to "the Christian prophet*" 
Elijah and Eli*jha.* 

While in the act of procuring the ir«i« 
Kidir and Elian noticed a stranger, ud 
anked wfio he was and his business, remufc- 
ing that he Beemed to be a MussulEBn 
(Eastern tradition Bays that Iskander wa«» 
Mussulman, a hard casev to explain). TbB 
stranger reported that he was also a grelt 
prince whose everj' mortal wTsh had b«B 
fulfilled. Like Iskander, h« desired im^ 
mortality and quaffed of the Bpring. Aft« 
a while liis empire fell away, miafortuiW 
came* and he went forth a wanderer or* 
the world. Weary of earthly life, il* 
stranger would have renounced both soul aod 
body, were that possible ; but God did n(< 
permit it. Having fled the world, he lull 
arrived at the glaring again. 

Xeedleas to aay, we have the atoriea d 
the fusinine cars of the foolish Mids?t of 
Plirj'gia and the Wandering Jew, occurring 
in a strange conglomeration of Greek, ^1«- 
vonic, and Christian tradition, attached w 
the name of Alexander the Great. 

FR^tNcis P, Mabcha>t. 
St lien til Bin Cuninioti. 

*' I:mfecuxiositv." — ^In the * X.E.D/ tto 
first use of this word is given in a letter from 
Sir Walter Scott to Mr. Morritt of Bokebv» 
dated 1818, In the Globe edition of Gold- 
smitVi, Prof. ^Ias«on, the etlitor, &UAes in 
his introduction (p. xxii) that the word 'ff* 
invented by HifTernan, a contempOTinr « 
Goldsmith. \V. E. Witsos. 


*' Ikcoxsiderati^-e.'* — The ' H.E.D,* mB" 
tains only one quotation^ and that of ^ 
year 1684, illuKtratiog the use of the wrf^ 
" inconfiiderati%e.'* In *A Vindieatdcm » 
the Divines of the Church of England.' &* 
^fjondon, 1689), ascribed by the Catalog* 
of the British Museum to T. Biunbrigg (l""^ 
i. 3), one finds, p. 12, these words* *'«* 

* Cf. the nhndowy thundor^deitji' Ilya MuroBi^ 
In one nf T^rnioiitov's Eaatem CalsB HJuiAwSt 
dcmgn&tv!4 St. ii^QTTge. 

VIL Fcjt JIU, 19070 



ftidevMivtp to Atna/emeut, ol tlie Prior 
Uon they are under to their Religion/* 

J Henby Wottox at V^enice. — A very 
teful stained-gla»8 window has been 
ted in the Eiiglisli Church at Venice to 
pemop,' of Sir Henry VVotton. (By 
y, is it not somewhat strange tliat we 
13 always ^xjeak of the man by his 
aal name, while to thoRo who Tknew 
ftonally at Eton he was invariably 
Harry "' ?) The window m d»ie tl> 
n. <r'.>iiritf s*t of Radnor, who thought of 
)»artially gave and partially 
ri Mioney, Tlie quarterings of the 

I coat are accurate ; but it may be as 
place upon record that the crest 
urate, unless Burke and other high 
ritie« are to be ignored- The motto is 
'naccurate. being copied from dear, 
kbl© Walton, iiistead of from Sir 
fB own seal, an impreas of which is 
t Somerset House. M. E. W. 

fcT Ikdiax Hitrricaxe Lore. — In 
ica they have this ''hurricane" rime, 
mch shows that from the end of June to 

er navigation should be suspended in 
I of storms. Never! helew* the worst 

^ne I remember occurred in the first 

bf October, 1866. 

,7 (!,..• (.... ^,>,i., - 


Ai.- , 

fSet>tcniiH T. ifiiiciiilitJ ; 

OetoUtc — all over. 

Francis King. 

BY CoiTRT Rolls. — I have recently 

a small book, * The Cuatoms, Ac, of 

. and Hackney Manors,' dat«d inside 

ver 1736 ; but the cuBtomg refer to 

ad there are long liat« of copyhold 

which woidd probably help many 

ft interested in those manors. I 

I the name Warton or Wharton about 

|761, of Schoolhouse Lane. Thomas 

Ji wa« the chief landlord in both 

A. C. H. 

i:t, Vicab of Bradford. 
! Sion College is a copy^of 
•n : — 

Icriee of tiiK \Wtng of ii Gtwl 

1 A S.^riiini I jij the I'ariKli 

Iforrl. r.ii^ ;■ pteillJitT Kith 

Lifter. 174.i. -.Sfnrtll 
vv^ xi. Ii. 

haa the preacher's manuscript 
I to the BiKhoyi of London (Ed- 

mund Gibson), who, twenty-six years before, 
got him, ** an obscure person," a dispensation 
to be privately ordained by tlie Bishop of 
Oxford (John Potter, a native of WakcHeld), 
"' now " Archbishop of Canterbury ; dated 
Bradford in Yorkshire, 9 March. 1744/5. 

Benjamin Kennet's pedigree is set out in. 
Joseph Hunter's 'Faniiliao Minonun Gen- J 
tiiui], ' ii . .520-21 . Marj' Kerniet, his thii'd wife, ^ 
and widow, made her will 8 Oct., 1753, being 
then of Wakefield. In it she mentions her 
late brother WilMam Dawson, Walker Daw- 
son his son, and Catlierine his daughter ; her 
own son Richard and her daughter Hannah, 
and her sister Mrs. Hannah AOott. The 
will was jiroved at York 2 Avig., 1754. 

On IG Feb., 1807, by royal grant, Benjamin 
Kennet of Wakefield, Esq. — son and heir of 
Benjamin Keiuiet of Manchester, merchant, 
who was the son of the above-mentioned^ 
vicar of Bradford by Mary Stockdale, 
second wife — was axithorized to use the sur- 
name of Dawson in addition to tliat of 
Kennet : and on the 26th of the Hame month 
he had a grant of arms, quarterly, Dawson 
and Kennet, with a crest for each. 

W. C. B. 

We nnwt re«ivieHt corre«|»ondent« desiring in- 
fonijatioii on family mattcrwof only private int-ere^t 
to Rtiix their naiiu'f* And addreHses to their <|ueric«, 
ill oifl«r that answers may be sent to tlitMii direct- 

It*" MoALEB."— W^iat is (or was) a " raoaler 
lamp " ? It is mentioned in 1843, in the 
report of an action brought against the 
Eastern Counties Railway Company. What 
is the origin of the word ? I should be glad 
of any other examples of its occiui*ence. 

Henry Bradlev. 
Clarendon Press, Oxford. 

CuiLO GoLDONi'a BiCENTEXABY. — In con- 
nexion with the celebration of the bicentenary 
of Carlo tJoldoni's death, which is to take 
place in Yeniee towards the end of thi;* 
month, I venture to draw attentioTi to the 
fact that at the time of Ids death in Paris 
his private papers got lost, and that there is 
some ground for believing that they were 
conveyed to England and consigned to 
the repository of some ]>rivate collection, as 
happened in the case of Rosalba Carriera's 
papers, now in the Laurentian Library*, 
Florence. Perhaps one of your numerou^^ 
rt^aders will be able to gi\^e me some infor- 
mation as to the whereabouts of Goldoni'^ 
papers, now missiDg. G. A.. ^, 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vii fkb. imk. 

Hugh Milleb of Virginia. — I sliould be 
much obliged for information as to the 
birthplace, parentage, whereabouts of resi- 
dence at time of death, age at death, or 
biu*ial-place, of Hugh Miller, merchant of 
Greenscroft, Bristol parish, Virginia, later 
of London, England, who died in London 
13 Feb., 1762. His will, recorded at 
Somerset House, gives no information on 
the above points, but mentions his Scottisli 
cousins Freebaim, and relations in Virginia 
of his wife, Jane Boiling. He was on 
9 Sept., 1767, appointed first master of 
Blandford Lodge of Freemasons in Virginia. 

William Scot. 
Charles Street, Someraet East, Cai»e Colony. 

*The Corn worthiad.'— Can any Wyke- 
hamist tell me where I may find a copy of 
* The Comworthiad,' a poem commemorating 
Mr. Barter, of Comworthy, Devon, and hifl 
tluree notable sons, Charles of Sarsden, 
Brudenell of Highclere, and Robert, Warden 
of Winchester. Wiccamictts. 

* Edinruroh Review * Attack on Ox- 
ford. — ^In 1810 there appeared in The 
Edinburgh Review a vehement attack on 
Oxford studies and on classical learning. 
Of the three articles which contained it, 
one was written by D. K. Sandford, wluj 
afteru'ards recanted and expressed regret. 
I shall be grateful to any one who can tell 
me the autliors of the other two. W.^T. 

Dean Vauohan's Pupils. — At Don- 
caster, and when Mckster of the Temple, 
the late Dean of Llandaff took, gratuitously, 
clerical pupils. I have always heard them 
spoken of as Vaughan's " doves." In the 
* Daily Mail Year-Book ' for this year I find 
on p. 93 that the present Archbishop of 
Canterbury is mentioned as having been one 
of his "lambs." Will one of the many 
former pupils who may see this inquiry tell 
me which name was usually applied to the 
men trained by the Dean ? 

Stapleton Martin. 
The Fire, Norton, Worcester. 

Langtry Estate in Ireland. — Will some 
one kindly inform me where the estate in 
Ireland of Mr. Langtry (father-in-law of 
the well-known actress) was situated ? 
I wish also to know the name and area of 
the property adjoining it, which belonged 
until about 1855 to one John Burke. 


Corrodieb : " Liber serviens." — I have 
a copy of a grant of a corrody by an alien 
abbey. The grantee is to be the "liber 

serviens " of the abbot. What is themflM 
ing of this term ? I shall be glad to b 
referred to printed copies of similar doea 
ments, as there is an omission of soneiran 
or words in the hst of articles to be yend; 
supplied by the abbey, which campanonc 
other grants ought to enable me to Bopd^, 

Hickford's Room, Brewer Stbeeit 
It is interesting to learn from The MvM 
Tim^a that this long-forgotten concert-xoo 
is still in existence. For thirty-five ye«i 
during the middle of the eighteenth oentm 
it was a much-frequented and faahiooikl 
resort, but, as the neighbourhood cliaiii| 
and other halls were erected, it gradodl 
sank into oblivion. The building now foDB 
part of the premises of the Club Franco! 
Perhaps some reeuier of *N. & Q.* wil 
contribute information as to its history. 
Frederick T. Hiboami. 
13, WestlK)uni Place, Clifton, BristoL 

The English Translator of SaixcH 
— ^In Thomas Cogan's * Haven of Health 
(chap. 242, p. 287, ed. 1636) there is acurioi 
reference to the mutilation ** that Haiti 
Smith, a canon of Hereford, practiBed 1901 
himself in the beginning of the raigne of ti|l 
queene's majesty that now is." This iai 
tator of Origen is stated in the margin to ■ 
*'the translator of Salust into fiaglii^ 
This I take to be Simon Smith, who Ml 
the stall of Himtingdon in 1661, was ar* 
deacon in 1578, and died in 1606. Cogtfl 
book first appeared in 1596, so that QwB 
Elizabeth is the monarch intended, n 
she came to the throne in 1558. But irjj 
is meant by the assertion that Smith was ft 
translator of Sallust ? The early tramlaW 
of the Latin historian were AlexBJJ 
Barclay (1520), Thomas Heywood (IW 
and W. Crosse (1629). If the allusion ia* 
Saluste du Bartas, our bibliographoa ■*■ 
to have missed this translation by ** Ml* 
Smith." William E. A. AxOS. 

The People's Charter : Political 80J 
— In the summer of 1838 there was lannd* 
the historic "People's Charter," which fl 
to play so important a part in the polH«> 
history of this country during the K 
decade ; and various accoxmts have ■ 
peared of the origin of the name. The 
for its creation has sometimes been 9 
to O'Connell ; while, according to Cw 
Mackay in his * Forty Years* BecoMectir 
(vol. ii. p. 50), "the Charter derived 
Tiame from the French Charter of 18 
though, in point of fact, the French Chi 

VJL F». 19, ii»7.] NOTES AND QUERIES, 


[from 1814, and it was its alleged ^^ola- 
1830 which precipitated the Revolu- 
July. But, apart from any rei»ollec- 
Mftffna Carta or the Great Charter 
nbm oC liberty, the word must have 
lihar in a special sense to the older 
Ite of that day. A full report was 
by William Hone in 1820 of the 
dings at the inquest upon Jolm Lees, 
'. the victims of the Peterloo Massacre 
lichentcr on 10 August, 1819 ; and, in 
K' of the cross-examination of one 
Hall by Mr. Harmer, a solicitor 
by the Radicals, there was this 
I dealing with the witness's statement 
had Been carried in tlie procession a 
ag with the word '* Death " upon it : 
do you my that there Mas only 
Ta* it not 'Death or Lil>erty'?-- 
know whether it waa 'Liljerty or 
'«r • Lk-Mt h or Libfertv." 
"But WHS it one or the other?— J. Vea ; it 
f the kind. 
[)iit hearfi that eelehrated national 
ft'- . • I- lV<\th ni LiUortv," which haabeen 
Bl>^ ri tho preaenctt 

'<• i»rt**«.«nee of 

■— •■■ ' l-e* 

\\ l> in my nrttivu Uiid, 

1 Ix 1 i "uitO"'" t'harter: 

• lhf« timt t woliiitw of the song.— .4. I never 
t. To niv rcrnllertion. 
' ' "HVR that it i« sunjj 

it I of every jioliticftl 

^i...n..-i .m.iiiration.'' 

ild be nmch interestetl to know more 
I political song. Politician. 

JBK OF Laj)y in Red, — I shall be 

obliged if j'ou or one of your corre- 

nts can give roe some information 

to a certain ])icttire which 1 believe 

kno^-n. It is a study of a woman 

hair and red draperies ; the wltole 

ihp picture is red, and it is entitled 

• La Donna della Fiamma/ or 

' DAme. 1 think the painter i& either 

or Burne-Jones. What I want to 

V Uw actual title, by whom the picture 

' ' axul in what collection it is to bo 

I. R. 
f. (». SncriiKNs kindly aupplie* the following 

1. R rt^fera to in manifestly 'The 

Mhich, painted in oil by 

s7f», w»M No. a04 m the Royal 

f\^ , > :>:.:-. -: . .y- ,, • , - ,;„,. 

■ .( ^8 

It ^. ' ..<re 




in 1882, 

It ia ft 

thretj-<nmrterB-length. lifi'-sixe figtire. drcsHrd in 
deep rcM*e red. ^tandinK fftfing the 8|>fCtator, with a 
nivstical Haine altrittt her hear!, anfi s»irn>undcd l»y 
a Jonp Urioiph of an apple-tree in full hloorn, whic-h, 
approach inn *is. f'hf puxli^H aside. With her rijiht 
hand she holds alx»ve her hea<l a portion of the 
branch on which is perched a bird i^assionately 
sineinK and with its wm^s outapreAd. The snbje<3t 
i« frnm A w.>nnet of Boccaot-io s, a translation of 
whi'-rh by R<iH«etti ifl iiiHcribt'd on the frame of the 
picture. The artist dated bin work !87K, but hi» 
oorrtwiMjndence |>ubliHh«l by his brother nhowu that 
Mrs. tStillman was stitl Hitting to him in October, 
1S79. 'The Vision of FianiniettA' was, almoBt 
Itefore it was finished, sold to the late Mr William 
A. Turner, of Manchester, for 84<V. Mr. Tnrner lent 
it to the Aeatlemy, and at the sale of his i>ieturea in 
1888 it was lx>«ight for 1,21)7/. by the pi-encnt owner, 
Mr. Charles Butler, who i>o«8es8e« other pioturva 
by Ro«»etti. There i« a photograxiire of 'The 
Vision' in Mr. Marillier's exhaustive 'Dante ti, 
Kossetti,'1890,p. 194. It is nut tol)e confounded M'ith 
another •FiaminettA/ a head Mhich was cut out, 
Havs Mr. W. M. Rossetti, from his brother's un- 
tinished * Kate the Queen " of 18o0. | 

WoLSTON. — Four boys of tliia name were 
at Westminster School in the first decade 
of the last century : Alexander, Augustus, 
R. W., and T. Wolstan. Inforraation con- 
cerning their parentage and career is desired, 

G. F. R. B. 

Sib Geobge Howard. Field-Mabshax. — 
According to the ' D.N.B.' (xxviii. 17), this 
worthy was bom about or in 1720, and 
obtained a coinniission in the 3rd Buffs in 
17*25, rising to the lieutenant-colonelcy of 
that regiment 2 April, 1744. According 
to Foster'.^ * Alumni Oxonienses,' Howard 
matriculated at Oxford from Ch. Ch. 23 June. 
1735, aged seventeen. 1 should be glad to 
obtain the place and exact date of liis birth, 
as well as the dates of liis early steps in the 
army, G. F. R. B. 

*' Life-Star " Folk-lore. — The following 
incident haa been related to ine. In 1882 
the head of a titled family in the Midland 
coimties lay dangerously ill, and hin recover^' 
was consideretl hopeless. My informant, 
who lived then, as he still does, in the pariah 
where the family seat is situate, was driving 
one evening,, with liis wife, in the direction 
of the mansion, when they — each of them — 
saw A dety meteor, described as a " fireball," 
travel swiftly towards them from the far 
sky, and, on arriving immediatelj'- above tho 
Hall, appear to break into fragments. So 
much impressed were they that they called 
at tho lodge and made inquiry ; but no 
tidings had reached the lodge-keeper. The 
first tiling heard the following morning was 
that the occupant of the mansion l»ad died 
at an hour precisely coinciding with the 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vn. fb.* 

appearance above described. I then heard* 
for the first time, that the appe€u:ance of a 
person's " life-star " at the moment of his 
dissolution is reputed to be not very un- 
common, though, naturally, observations 
of such occurrences are not so frequent as 
those of others more popularly known as 
portents or accompaniments of death. Is 
the ** life-star " known to any of your 
readers ? and, if so, is this instance of folk- 
lore confined to the Midlands, where I heard 
its narration ? W. B. H. 

Andbew Mabvell. — Can any one inter- 
ested in the history of the MarveUs give me 
the following piece of information ? Andrew 
had three sisters, viz., Anne, Mcuy, and 
Elizabeth. Each of them married, and the 
names of their husbands are siven by Mr. 
Birrell in his * Andrew Marvel! ' (''English 
Men of Letters "). But Andrew had ako a 
stepsister, and of course a stepmother, his 
father having married a second time in 1638. 
Now, what was the surname of the step- 
sister, and did she marry 7 if so, whom 7 
I do not find the name of either stepmother 
or stepdaughter given in Mr. BirrelFs * Life.* 
H. S. S. Clabke. 

8, West Street, Ryde. 

Heenvlibt and Lord Wotton*b 
Daughteb. — Katherine, daughter of 
Thomas, Lord Wotton, married, as her 
second husband, the Dutch ambassador 
Heenvliet (1694-1660), As they could not 
have met before 1639, and as they were 
married by May, 1642, the date of their 
union is narrowed to some three years ; 
but in spite of the ' D.N.B.' I can obtain 
no actual proof of time or place. Possibly, 
it may be found amongst the Rawlinson 
papers in the Bodleieui, which deal largely 
with these people ; but they are not acces- 
sible to me. I shall be glad to learn the 
date and place of the marriage. 

Mabel E. Wotton. 

96, Buckingham Gate, 8.W. 

People to be AvoroED or Cultivated. 
— Can any reader of * N. & Q.' tell me where 
to find something like the following 7 There 
are four kinds of people, three of which are 
to be avoided and the fourth cultivated : 
those who don't know that they don't know ; 
those who know that they don't know ; 
those who don't know that they know ; 
and those who know that they know. Of 
course these are not the exact words ; but 
they may be sufficient to identify the quota- 
tion. I have no clue myself to the author. 
£DWARD Latham. 



(10 S. vii. 10, 74.) 

The illustrators of Cadell's editio 
are : — 

* Waverley.'— F. P. Stephanoff, I 
seer, A.R.A., G. S. Newton, A.R.A. 

* Guy Mannering.' — C. R. Leslie 
Willieun Ividd, Abraham Cooper, R.i 

' Antiquary.* — Clarkson Stanfield, 
F. P. Stephanoff, E. Landseer. 

* Rob Roy.'— Kidd, Leslie, A. E. 
R.A., Cooper. 

*01d MortaUty.'— D. Wilkie, ] 
Burnet, Cooper. 

* Heart of Midlothian.* — Burnet 
Fraser, Kidd, J. Stephanoff. 

' Bride of Lammermoor.' — ^F. 
phanoff, R. Farrier. 

I cannot find the last volume « 
Bride of Lammermoor.' 

I give also the namea of the illi 
of some of the volumes in the ec 
Constable, and of Hurst & Robinso: 
but the edition before me is not com 

* Black Dwarf,' * Old Mortality.' 
of Lammermoor,' * Legend of Mon 
C. R. Leslie. 

* Ivanhoe.'— T. Stothard, R.A. 

* Monastery.' — W. Brockedon. 

* Abbot.'— H. Howard, R.A.. A. ( 

* Pirate.'— J. M. Wriffht, A. Nasn 
' Fortunes of Nigel.' — Cooper, 


* Peveril of the Peak.'— Wright, K 

* Quentin Durward.'— Wrirfit, W. 
don, Nasmyth. E. Yai 

Few novels have been more magi 

{)roduced than the *' Abbotsford ' 
ey,' published in 12 vols., 1842-7 
according to Cadell's * Catalogue 
Various Editions of the Works of Si 
Scott ' (1847), now before me, cont 
steel engravings and 2,050 wooden 
list of iUustrations prefixed to eacl 
gives the names of the artists and ei 
The engravings on steel are par 
fine, consisting of landscapes after 
Stanfield, AUom, and others, and a 
portraits (from Lodge) of histori 
sonages appearing in the novels, < 
by G. B. Shaw. Some of the wood< 
afterwards published in Black*i 
editions of the Waverl^ Now 
oataloffue refers to two ilraatrated 
pubUsned previously : one in 48 v< 



with UO engravings on steel ; and 

' volft., 8vo/with vignettes, 1841-3. 

tli.< v^iiooeedinj? editions of Scott 

it«d owe their pictures to 

i Edition," to wliich your 

ient 18 referred. 


• illastrated edition of the Waverley 
that w^hich appeared it* 1829 
engravings. In a characteristic 
" jg preface to tlus isHue, the author 
[the iIluHtrations. and sayts that as 
n^as no longer the charm of novelty, 
^ perhaps Btili secure a measure of 
1^ througli the assistance of art. 
■ Qg that, tiie designs with which 
is embellifthixl are by the most 
EamoDg contemporary artists, lie 
1 ihu» : — 

wieountrynmn. Duviti Wilkie; 

nho has f vficiMccl U\» tnU'iit^ 

u^h wulijtTts liiifl swiu'iy; To 

*lit' !i!i«l Xowti.n. my tUatilcH nw due, 

l«* well as nil Mitthur. Xnr nni 1 lesa 

«*, O-Miin-t, Kiilfl, mid other lUtintH 

whuni 1 am le>w ifei-i^many known, 

, >at with which tlu'y have dev(»t«tJ 

I to the Munie imriitwfe.'" 


like to mention a few works 
pictorial illustrations of the 
ns of the ** Author of ' Waverley' " 
ttle library-, not bibhographically, 
rrly to draw attentit>n to them. No 
*ny besides myself have formed 
illustrative of tlie uTitings of 
llike Shakespeare, was for al] time, 
Hhicli are a never-failing resource 
yfe of our existence. 
cietv for the Promotion of Fine 
jotland pubUshed the following, 
in 1865: 'Waverley,' 'Guy 
p* • The Antiquary,' ' Hob Hoy/ 
lality.' * The Heart of Midlothian,' 
|ie of Lammermoor,' ' The I^^gend 
ie,' ' The Pirate,' ' Hedgauntlet,' 
a's Well,' and * The Fair Maid of 
The I-Ady of tlie Lake ' forms the 
volume). Each contains six 
«, folio «izo, well engraved on 
opting * Wttverle>\' which has 
" _*). They are all by Scottish 
bowledginl reputation, though 
Itiiitted that thry vary mate- 
cli part hart a different coloured 

Historfcal Illustrations/ two 

TuihliHliod by Fisher & Son, 

fcii but prlntfHl (1836) 

|tr , winch are very good, 

and by firat-rate artists. Underneath is 
printed the title of the engraving in English 
and French, and in each novel are two 
comical illustrations by Cruikshank. Tliis 
aeries has been reprinted. 

■ LandHcape Illustrations of the Works 
of Sir Walter Scott, both in Poetry and 
Proee,' has portraits of the female characters, 
dattxl 1832, by first-rate artists. Published 
by Chapman & Hall, small ftvo, 2«. G^i. each 
part, containing four illustrations. 

The ' Waverley Album,' containing fifty 
one line engravings to illustrate the novels 
and tales of Sir Walter, was published in 
London for Charles Heath, no date, price 
one guinea. The illustrations are veiy 
good, particularly the little vignettes of 
j>laces mentioned ; th^e are chieiiy by 
be Wint. This is bound in crimson silk, 
and quite a drawing-room book. It ends 
with ' Quentin Durward.' 

But the palm ior j)ictorial illustrations 
to the Waverley Novels must be awarded 
to those in what is called the " Favom-ite 
Edition," bound in red cloth with paper 
labelK, the edition of our boyliood. The 
frontispieces arid vignettes are by such 
famous artists as J. M. W. Turner. Constable, 
Sir David Wilkie, and Sir William Allan, 
who have caught the ideas of the author, 
and given exprt^wsion to them in their art. 
There is an edition of these printed on 
tinted paper apart from the novels, proofs, 
as may be supposed, and of great rarity. 

John Pickfobd, M.A« 
Ncu 11011111*? Rectory, Woodbridgo. 

EoiNBrROH Stage: Bland: Glover: 
JoKDAN (10 S. vii. 89). — This genealogical 
tangle is an interesting one ; but, as space 
in ' N. & Q.' is valuable, ray endeavours to 
unravel it must be brief as possible. Mb. 
W. J. Lawbknce said at 10 S. iv. 204 that 
John Bland, of the Theatre Royal, Edin- 
burgh, has been accredited probably with 
the military achievements of General 
Hun»phry Bland, who ttmi/ have been a 
relative, and who, according to ' D.N.B.,* 
was present at Dettingen and Fontenoy « 
and further, that there is no proof that 
John Bland was — as stated by Boaden — 
uncle to Mrs. Jordan. 

There were two branches of the Bland 
family in Ireland : one of Derriquin Castle, 
CO. Kerry, represented by Nathaniel Bland, 
LL.D., judge of the Prerogative Court in 
Dublin, and another of Blandsfort in Queen's 
Coimty, represented by General Humi)hry 
Bland. The latter made the former trustee 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. Fa* 

of his estate, from which relationship has 
been inferred, but not proved. Nicholas 
Carlisle wrote a histoiy of the Blands in 
1826 ; and, from an original letter of his in 
my possession, it is clear that he got his 
information as to the Kerry branch from 
my maternal grandfather Francis Chris- 
topher Bland, of Derriquin, who may be 
presumed to have known about his own 
uncles. Judge Bland married twice. His 
first wife was Diana Kemeys, by whom he 
had a younger son, tlie Kev. James Bland 
(my great-grandfather, who inherited the 
estate), and an elder son, John, whom he 
disinherited because he gave up the army 
for the stage. The judge's second wife was 
Lucy Heaton, by whom he had (with several 
other sons and daughters) Francis, a com- 
missioned officer of a line regiment, who 
married Miss Fhilipps (daughter of a clergy- 
man), and was father of Mrs. Jordan. As 
to the truth of these statements there is no 
doubt whatever. John and Francis being 
half-brothers, Boaden was right in saying 
that John was Mrs. Jordan's uncle. But 
Judge Bland, finding that his son Fruicis 
had been married by a priest, without 
consent of parents, and that both husband 
and wife were under age, took proceedings, 
according to a law then in force in Ireland, 
to annul the marriage ; in this he succeeded, 
and Francis afterwards married a Miss 
Mahony as recorded in the pedigree. These 
facts are to be found in the Record Office, 
Dublin. Family pride, however, prevailed ; 
and, for obvious reasons, there is no mention 
of the frail Dora Jordan, or her mother, in 
Carlisle's book. But he states that this 
wild and eccentric John Bland had been a 
comet of Bland's Dragoons before he took 
to the stage. These dragoons were those 
of General Humphry, who was probably, as 
I have said, a relative. They were both, 
therefore, at Dettingen and Fontenoy. 

The death of John Bland in Edinburgh, 
aged 87, is noticed in Walker^a Hibemtan 
Magazine in 1808, in which it is stated 

*' ho was descended from an ancient Irish family 
and was at one time a comet of horse, and carried 
the colours of his regiment at the memorable battle 
of Dettingen." 

The article goes on to say that he was 

** very eccentric in his manners and ojiinions and 
phraseology, as well as in everythinji^ he ate, drank, 
or wore ; out, with all his i>eculiaritie8, he was 
an honest man, a kind husband, an indulgent parent, 
and a steady friend." 

Incidentally it is mentioned that his wife's 

name was Nancy. As to his havinti 
under Honeywood against the Jaew 
1745, I find {Gent. Mag., 1745. p. 821 
both Honeywood and General BIum 
present at the engagement at Cliffeon 
miles from Penrith ; and if so, John 
as comet, was present also. I find 
(Gent. Mag., vol. xxxii. p. 93) that i 
General Humphry Bland was am 
Governor of Edinburgh Castle ana • 
of the foot regiments quartered 
This was probably about the dat( 
John Bland threw up his commissii 
took to the Edinburgh stage, with 
he was so many years connected. H 
Nancy, may have been an actress. 
I am most anxious to do is to tr 
descendants, some of whom, accon 
Dibdin's * ^nals of the Edinburgh 
were of the family of the celebrated 
Mrs. Glover. In The Ancestor, v« 
p. 52, Elizabeth Martha Bland, said 
granddaughter of this John, is se 
as having married, when und^: age, A 
Angelo in 1787. J. F. Fu 

Brunswick Chambers. Dublin. 

Sm John Barnard's Descendant 
vii. 90). — His only son, John Bama 
one of the Gentlemen of the Bedchai 
JYederick, Prince of Wales, wid d 
married at St. James's, 13 July 
leaving his sisters his coheirs (GerU. 
so that, as far as male issue is con 
*' this family was [not] further ext* 
Of these two sisters, (1) Sarah man 
June, 1733, Sir Thomas Hankey, 
known London banker (who died - 
1770), and died 15 March, 1762, 
numerous descendants ; (2) Jane i 
(as his second wife), 12 Sept., 1738, tl 
Henry Temple, son and heir appa 
the first Viscount Palmerston, 
Henry died vitd patris, at East 
10 Aug., 1740, and was buried at M< 
Surrey. His widow, the said Jan 
there 28 Jan., 1789, leaving an on 
Henry, the second Viscount, wl 
father of the third and last Viscou 
celebrated Prime Minister) and of 
It may be mentioned that a good i 
of Alderman Barnard was given at ' 
197 (5 Sept., 1891) by the late J. J. Sn 
who, however, seems to have been i| 
of the parentage of the Alderman 
which had been asked. She w« 
(bapt. 15 March, 1687/8, at St. Du 
in-the-East), sister of Sir Robert Qo 
sometime (1741-2) Lord Mayor of ] 
dau. of John Godschall, of Baafc 


Sethia (married 27 Sept.. 168V 

»t«r Abb^'), dftu. and coheir 

'larleton, of St. Beonet's, Paul .^ 

Cheater's * Westminster Abbey 

. 10, note b, sub ' Godschall '). 

as biii-ied at Mortlake, 1 Sept., 

' Daiue Jane Barnard^ Lady 

ye City of London." 

G. E. C. 
^ard died without issue, and left 
ind personalty to liia nephew 
Dkey. See Gent, Mag,, vol. Iv. 


_ " (10 S. vii. 109).— The 
of the ordinar\' sailor's de- 
lis " home " is older than Mahan, 
fclly, though probably without 
bed to the late Admiral P. 
Ipt. the Kight Hon. Sir John 
orother. is pretty sure to know 
leftcribed in this faahion the 
ived. from the '* blue-water 
the eigliteenth centurj% in liis 
Defence of Great and Greater 
B. W. T. 

toN OF Thoughts/ 1707 (10 S. 

Collection of the Moat Natural 
le Thoughts.' London, 1707, 

Edward Bysshe. 

Alfred Svdxey Lewis. 

ilit«ti«»rinl Club, 

WtsoiAX's Tomb (10 8. v 
lodies of Cardinals Wiseman and 
ire been removed from Kensal 
tint erred in the crj'pt of Wcst- 
ledral. so there is no longer any 
e tomb of the former cardinal 
;ecay» as it will presumably' ]>c 
rer his remains in the crjpt, 
^t an illustration of it appeared 
^ Magazine for 1865. 


Parent."? (10 S. vi. 606).~I 
>k wliich belonged to Ruskin's 
hich has the words " Belonging 
n " written by liim inside the 
Cil. It is an edition of ' Don 
Spanish wliich was publishetl 
laston. of Salisbury, 1781 (see 
Tlie relative who gave it to 
•"■ •' •nrnu-e to Amerita ha.s 
\Ning note, which may 
o ; — ' 

^lungnixoto* m 3 \oU. «;nin<* 

n l!i\1. 111 ihnt v-^. f •..■jjrin to 

John Rim! thuvH 

f'"m nr ;,,nt of 

p;. I, ....,,, I ^g„t j„p thest" volumes, with the pemiJ 

;in uti the tii>t voliinio, iti liiti own liiiarl- 

.i(: the lHX>k lK'lung<*(i to iiirti. 1 looktMl 

ujroii theiu. therefore, as a loan, hut hthortly rtfter* 

Wftnls 1 recuiv'fd a mcRsafjo fmni him that I watt to 

consider the book a* a ijift from him Though 

the sift of the lH>ok wju* kindly muiviit, it was of no 
use t<i me, lieinj: wi'itten in the old ortho^raiihy, 
and I had to buy a mcnc* modem ooiiy for .study. 

"My k?rrtnd father (maternal) Charles < »rant Wtt» 
a lawyer and friend of John Kuakiu (the father of 
the niver of this l>ook, and jfrandfather of the 
author), and drew hi» marria};e settlement. The 
fnendship continued between the familie^i, and John in tne merohant. with his wity and son (the 
author), viHJtetl my father and mother («cV- Charlotte 
(•rant) at our home in »ScotLftiid, the autlior being 
then a liov luider twelve," 

W. E. Wilson. 

*' The Mahalla " (10 S. xii. 45, 96).— 
The meaning of this word may be settled 
by reference to a book in which Dr. Weis- 
gerber, an Alsaciaii surgeon long resident 
at Casablanca, has given an account of a 
harka, or " punitive expedition," made by 
the Sultan of Morocco's army in 1898. Tim 
work, * Trois Moia do Campagne au Maroc * 
(Paris, Leroux), is verj' interesting, as the 
author, whom I know personally, has had 
long experience of the countrj% and ha^ 
explored much of it scientifically, giving 
some of his results in an appendix. 

After the army had " eaten up " several 
tribes it went into camp [m'halla) at Sokrat-el 
Djeja ; and the Grand Vizir, Si Alimed ben- 
Mousa (who died in lOOO), having falleti ill. 
Dr. Weisgerber was requited to go tliither, 
and, accompanying the expedition, to 
attend to the Vizir's health. Accordingly 
he left Casablanca, arrived at the m^huUa, 
and acconipanied the army until ita triumphal 
arrival at Marrakeck (whence '* Morocco ")» 
the ancient capital of the Almora\'id caliphs. 
The principal personages at the camp were 
the Vizir's brother. Si Sidi ben-Jlousa, Kebir 
el-dsker, conunander of the army, and Si 
El-Mahdi El-Mnebhi, KeMr el-inliallu, mar- 
shal of the camp = quarterma.ster-g€meral. 
Thus usker is an army {u^kn\ a soldier)^ and 
harka an expedition, a raid ; while vi'haUa is 
distinctly a camp. Sometimes mahalla may 
mean a camp on the move, in the early 
sense of *' camp '* as in *' camp-follower." 
Edwakd Nicholson. 

*• The Maghzen '' {10 S. vi. 4«7 ; vu. 11). 
— This word means the '* Government " ; 
no doubt its original sense was that of 
moffostn and " magazine." Dnr tl-mnkhztn 
is the royal Court, the palace of the Govern- 
ment. The countrj" is divided, politicallj-, 
or rather financially,, into Bkd el-makhzcrir 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn Fa m^ i 

the land of government {i.e., fumishinff troops 
and paying tax^, when compelled), and 
Bled elrsiba, the land of anarchy (i.e., refus- 
ing taxes) ; and the limit between these 
lands is very shifting. 

Edwakd Nicholson. 

Meaux Abbey (10 S. vi. 248, 290, 354, 
397). — There is a good antiquarian account 
of Meaux Abbey in * Sutton-in-Holderness, 
the Manor, the Berewic, and the VillMe 
■Community,* by the late Thom£» Blashill, 
F.R.LB.A., founded on a paper read before 
the British Archseological Association on 
Sutton-in-Holdemees and the monks of 

With regard to the prommciation of Meaux, 
the author, who was a native of Sutton and 
may be allowed to judge, in a note on p. i 
of the preface, states that the place-name 
is pronounced Mewse. John Hebb. 

Con- Contraction (10 S. ii. 427 ; iii. Ill, 
152, 250, 335). — Ck>ntroversial aposiopesis 
is most aptly illustrated by Hasta Vibrans 
«t the last reference. I happened to look 
Tip the first edition (1626) of Bacon's ' Sylva,' 
and copy the whole of the paragraph in 
•question : — 

" It woitld l)e tried, how, and with what proiKjr-* 
tion of disaduantage^ the Voicf. will be carried in an 
Jlonie, which is a line Arched ; or in a Tmmr>et, 
which is a line Retorted ; or in some Pipe that were 

Your correspondent closed his quotation 
with the word " Arched." Any one who 
has seen the contraction for con- knows 
that it closely resembles the Arabic figure 9, 
and that " a line Retorted *' is a phrase 
that expresses its shape with considerable 
accuracy. If it ever took the form of "an 
■arched line," I shall be very grateful for a 
reference to the date and whereabouts of the 
docimient in which it occurs . Other students 
who have to struggle with MS. originals will 
-doubtless be glad to know of a collection of 
facsimiles in which they may investigate this 
hitherto imheard-of phenomenon. Q. V. 

Religious Houses of Sussex (10 S. vi. 
449).— The Knights of St. John had hospitals 
at Poling and at Winchekea. The Austin 
Friars were to be found at Rye ; the White 
Friars at Rye and at Sele (near Shoreham) ; 
the Black Friars at Anmdel, Chichester, 
•and Winchelsea ; and the Grey Friars at 
■Chichester, Lewes, and Winchelsea. Box- 
grove Priory and Battle Abbey belonged to 
Benedictine monks, and the priories of 
Easebourne and Rusper to Benedictine nuns 
The Cistercians were represented by Roberts - 

bridge Abbey, while the great Prior 
St Pancras at Lewes was the first Ch 
liouse in England. The Fremonstnten 
(now represented by Storrington Fl 
held the abbeys of Bayham and Dun 
Lastly, the Austin Canons had the pii 
of Hardham, Hastings, Michelluun, I 
brede, Tortington, and Warbleton. 

John B. Wainewbioi 

Orwell Town and Haven (10 & 
21, 61).— I think L. L. K. will be inter 
in the tliree references to Orwell Haven 
he will find in part i. of the Ninth R 
of the Historical MSS. Commission. Q. 

Healing Springs flowing to^ 
THE South (10 S. vii. 90).— In the 
Edda it is said that 
"on the southern edge of heaven is aitott 
most l)cautiful homestead in the celratialr 
bri>rhter than the sun itself. It is called Gib 
s]iall stand when both heaven and eartl 

i>asRed away; and good and righteous mei 
Iwell therein for everlasting ages." 
It is thus spoken of in the * Voluspd ' :- 

A hall seen she standing 

Than the sun fairer. 

With it« ulittering gold roof 

Aloft in (iimli. 

All men of worth shall there abid< 

And ]>li88 enjoy 

Through countless ages. 

And again : — 

"Towards the south there is another 
alx>ve tluR, calletl Andlang, and above this ( 
heaven, called Vidblain." 
This allocation, in the Northern myth 
of the highest heaven to the south, 
one of the stems or roots in the Yg( 
m>'th springs in the warm south oy 
Urdur-fountain, whose holy water it 
to sprinkle Yggdrasil's ash, would sc 
account in some degree for the direct 
the course of springs southwards, 
condition was necessary for the con 
healing springs not only in Wales, ho 
North of the Tweed healing virtuei 
attributed to the water of a south-n 
stream. The patient had to go to tli 
and drink the water and wash himsel 
Sometimes his shirt was taken by ai 
and, after being dipped in the south-n 
stream, was brought back and pn 
upon him. Mr. Henderson in his ' 
lore of the Northern Counties * ment 
Border amulet, known as the Black 1 
for long the property of a family afc 1 
byers. It was larger than an on 
penny, and was beueved to be ft B 
coin or medal. When brought into ' 
should have been dipped in » well, tbi 



ftV » 

ards the south (tv<^e J. M* 
Folk-lore of Scottish Lochs 
»893, pp, eancl2fl2). 


^10 S. vii. 69).— The jiiiglLng 

lifl comes to bossing" Beeniis 

f<>a<ls to eminence, success, 

Tiie old verb " to oew *' is 

jr '^■i'^^^^u useil in the vernacular of 

P^ds, in t he sense of to try, make an 

b> V...,.,rj ill earnest to do a thing, 

iig.-Lat. part of an old Latin 

■page and colophon missing, 

of the sixteenth century) 

, . adorioT, audeo." "Bogs" 

in 18 often uned in reference to the 

a business or undertaking. Work- 

" only speak of their master aa 

~ A» a verb the word is fre- 

colloquially or jocularly, in 

as '* he bosses the concern, the 

Bhow." apphed to the person 

* iel direction or control. 

W. R. Holland. 

the head of the Jiouae or 

or the leader of a gang of 
liere i& no diflicidty about 
i to bosging " when it is known 
I " meanis to offer or irj- to do 
Jiave often heard " Xa then oss, 
sumtime." A man put to a 
work might look at it and soj-, 
how willin" ; ali'Il oss anny way, 
t." meaning that lie would master 
he n-a*i set to do, •* Oa& '* is one 
-♦>>-•<! dialect wfirds in Yorkshire, 
u, and Derby, be«ide» other 
^,.,.;.c-*, Thos. Katcuffe. 


'- ' ' '' '' 's etlition of 

the quotation 

• 111 . Jilt- 1 1 |>ftt booBen hor 

The verb means to swell 

' ♦" project ; the itense }icre 

J.: puffed up. Compare 

v., IS. H. V. L. 

^m •Prox-erbii/ R^^IL 1803. p. 46, 

■ !■ : I ■ ■ I , - . with 

•J and 

in i!u- \ h«-liire aialect, 

' ^",^" (Bailey's * Diet./ 

u«J I" iMXig " i]H T *.■!■, to 

ti, lo manage, h\ an 

u( tlie Dut* I. .»«r«,»r, as in 

de baaa.** But it Ls an old 

several inatancea fone in 

•y) are given in Farmer 

and its Analogues.* 

A fcHiVenteenth-eentury example in 
given aa follows : " Here they had 

r Irto 


6o#,s or 

first interview with the female 
sitpercargo of the vessel " (1670, M. Philips^, 
' Kavly Voyages to New Netlicrlanfis,' 
quoted by De Vere). 8eo also the ' English 
l>ialect Dictionary,' by Dr. Joseph Wright. 
J. Hi)U>EN MacMtchael. 
St. Ceobge's Crapel Yard, Oxford 
Road (10 S. vi. 469; vii. 13).— The ])arish 
biu-ial-ground of St. George's, Hanov«r 
Square, was laid out in the Bayswater Koad 
in 1764. Ln or about 1893 the chapel was 
pulled down, and a new one built at the 
cost of the late Mrs. Ruesoll Gurney (not 
Mr. Russell Gurney, aa 8tat<Ki ante, pi 13). 
Its ntune is now^ the Chapel of the AsceiLsi(.iii. 
On 26 April, 1894, at a consistory coiurt 
held at St. Paul's Catliedral, a faculty was. 
on the application of the Rev. David 
Anderson and the church wardenK of St. 
George's, granted to lay out the burial- 
ground as a garden at an c^tirnat^^d cost of 
about 2,400^ The time given for carrying 
out this '■ improvement " was five years, 
wnth leave to ajiply for extension of timet. 
It was alleged that it would be necessary to 
remove over 2,000 tombstones. There wero 
provisos for protecting the interests of five 
persons who appeared and for i>reservijig 
the tomb of Laurence Sterne. No tombtj 
were to be removed where objection had 
been taken, so long an those tomba were 
kept in order (see Morning Post of 27 April, 

I \nsited the old chapel and graveyard soon 
after the " hoascbreaker-* " had begun their • 
w^ork. In the graveyard besides Sterne'^ 
tombstone I found little of interest. Many 
of the inscriptions had been more or le«» 
destroyed by time and weather. One monu- 
ment in the churchyard was intere.*iting a«i a 
record of an early testamentary instruction 
for " cremation." It has been describeil 
in ' N. tt Q: ; see 7 S. xi. 150 ; xii. 385, 518. 
It vanished in the course of the restoration, 
or devastation. 

Sir Thomas Picton was buried here, but 
his body was removed in 1859 to St. Paurii 
Cathedral ; also Mrs. RmlcUffe, author o£ 
' The Mysteries of Udolpho,' and J. T. Smith 
the engraver. 

la tlie chapel is the tablet in memory of 
Mrs. Jane Molony (sometimes referred to an 
'* Lady O'Loony'*), which givea her and 
her husbands' (she was married three times) 
great positions and noble coiuiexions, adding 

"she was hot. i»asHioimte, and tender, and »i highly 
ac'coiu])Ushc<i lady, and a superb dravfitt \\v >; «k\A":t 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vm. fb. 

colours which was mu(>h admired in the exhibition 
ixioni at Somerset House some years i)ast.'' 
This tablet is on one of the walls in the chapel> 
but so high up as to be illegible from the 
floor. The full inscription is given in 
• Antiente Epitaphes ' by Thomas F. Raven- 
fihaw, 1878, p. 184. As to Mrs. Molony's 
pictures I inquired in 1901 from Mr. Bernard 
Quaritch, in one of whose catalogues ap- 

{)eared a set of the Royal Academy cata- 
ogues from the beginning to a (then) very 
recent date. I gave her successive names, 
viz., Shee, Stuart, Jackson, and Molony. 
The reply contained the following : — 

" The nictures could not have been exhibited at 
the Royal Academy, as 1 cannot find any trace of 

Perhaps there were other exliibitions of 
pictures at Somerset House. 

Robert Pierpoint. 

[Mrs. Jane Malony does not appear under any of 
her names in Mr. Graves's great dictionary of ex- 
hibitors at tho Royal Academy.] 

Pictures at Teddington (10 S. vii. 88). 
— These pictiires are those of eight of the 
twelve Sibyls, often found decorating medi- 
aeval churches, books of hours, and so on. 
As to the Sibyls generally, Mr. Le Wett 
will find an account in * The Penny Cyclo- 
psedia,' Smith's * Diet, of Greek and Roman 
feiography and Mythology,' and *The 
EncyclopsBdic Diet.' under the word. The 
last named compiles its short note from 
the late Prof. Ramsay's dissertation, which 
may be read in his * Selections from Ovid.' 
Among the authorities there given is 
Pausemias — an author who should be read 
in Mr. Frazer's excellent, but expensive 
edition. Here are collected not only, the 
loci dctssici of the ancient writers, but also 
the later folk-lore derived partly there- 
from and partly from the Sibyls of early 
Christian art. A good introduction to what 
I may call the Christian Sibyls will be found 
in the numerous notes on the Sibyl pictures 
at Cheyney Court, Herefordshire, in 4 S. v., 
and, if accessible, in Mr. W. Marsh's * Icono- 
graphy of the Sibyls.' 

The peculiarity of the Teddington pictures 
seems to be the unusual generic name 
("Silvia" for "Sibylla"); the second 
name is, as usual, the local or geographical 
one, except No. 5 in Mr. Le Wett's hst. 
Tliis is most commonly called Sibjrlla 
Agrippa (or with one p only). The Teddmg- 
ton variation is interesting, as it may 
possibly furnish a key to " Sih-ia." Rhea 
Silvia was the mother of Romulus and 
Bemus, and was seventh in direct descent 
from Agrippa, king of Alba Longa (see Livy, 

I. iii., with Seeley's note). Were i 
the '* Silvia," I should feel incliiiec 
on " Agrippina " as a truer farm 
usual "Agrippa," and as preser 
sjTnmetry of the series in its " local ' 
clatm'e, for " Agrippina " (=Cologi 
well stand for " German " by t 
Synecdoche, so freely used .by 
versifiers. There was a real Gen 
phetic maiden, Veleda, well knov 
Roman world in the time of Taciti 
there are hardly any Sibyl traits 
Silvia. If the inscriptions on the 
ton pictures can be traced hat 
fifteenth centiuy the form " SiIt 
perhaps have been the origin of *' s 
For No. 2 on the list I venture 1 
^thiopica (=^gyptia). J. P. 

Surely Mr.Le Wett should read * 
for " SUvia," and then we at o] 
easily recognizable, the titles of pi 
the Samian Sibyl, Erythrean Sib;; 
Sibyl, Phr>'gian Sibyl, and the 
Tivoli. Probably some one else cai 
the list. Rowland Th 

[Further replies next week. J 

** Popjoy " (10 S. vii. 88).— Wi 
invention of this word probably 
to the writer by "popinjay," 
spelt *' papejay," as if it had son 
tion with the* verb " to enjoy,*" 
disport oneself ? 


" Popjoy " is probably a nick 
one of the early numbers of Bell' 
of ComicaUties ' one Cockney spor 
another angler, " Had a bite. 
An answer in the negative is retui 


"Axon" (10 S. i. 246, 337; v. 27- 
— ^Is not the use of this word in th 
sentence as strange as that in The 

"Its drivinn would anon be like tl 
Jehu, the son of Nimshi, and anon li 
of one who holdn slack reiKiis in italsi 
\V. (i. Edwanls Rees, * The Parsui 
(Lonjinmiis, 1900), p. 212. 

t. : 

Kossall, Lane s. 

Californian English : Amei 
Names (10 S. vi. 381 ; vii. 36), 
gestion that ticky is derived 
seems unlikely on accomit of th 
in sense. Ticky is threepence, ; 
pence. In the Zulu langaage a 
piece is called tiki. I inu^iiie 
their corruption of its 'Rnglish 
that we borrowed it bsck £ro 

tj,.i«, 1907] NOTES AND QDERIEa 

uro often rurioualy 

-; of Asiatics and 

jptiir yrrtirt ago, when I was a 

tor to the London opxmn-dens. 

Iiat in the *' pigeon English '* 

the Chine^^e sixpence beratne 

be word was in constant use, 

tnted tho quantity of opium 

for. J AS. Platt, Jim. 

in 1876, by a cousin of mine 
; returned from the Philadelphia 
0. and a long tour in the United 
■* when a Red Indian wanted 
i^Haced a silver dollar on a wooden 
flnopped it into eight pieces, oach 
was called a bit. The Chin»?:iO 
BUDu too, made out his washing bills 
id not in dollars and cents. 1 ha\'e 
liotograph of such a ehopped-up 
Oar in an American illustrated 
at cannot give the reference. 
piece of eight " in Queen 
ftmation of 1704, see an article 
liah DoUar and the Colonial 
\: ha American HistorieMi Review^ 
L. L. K. 

cm<iARDs (10 H. \n. 429 ; vii. 16). 
!>rty years ago, after attending the 
ice at St. Andrew's, Holborn» 
ior choriHterH showed me what I 
be called a dole cupboard, 
^^olleot, it was nothing nioro 
[Bhelvci^ fixed in a recess formed 
jlintng the church, and contained 
loaves, intended for distribu- 
I certain pour of the parish. 
J. Basil Bikch. 

iN';Dr\Lis (10 S. ii. 427, 406). 

- * nme of the readers of 

that in the English 

> ...j.t Ana ApreH ' published 

A: Co. in I»03 (2 vola.) the 

t.iiistif>iL'f oi" fhe V'icomte de 

I out (as it is 

,. 'i». xxii. (vol. i. 

*' An Adventure of Marie 

in other translations, as 

5nd reference, the point in 

M omitted, I anx unable 

EowABD Latham. 

AY " : • Old Dog Tuav ' 

4114 ; vii. 14). — The amusing 

taph,' by Thomas 

\ol. i. 1 05 ft fffq, 

I ten. The author 

poor dog Tray '* 

,^^>, St. I'aol'^, or a 

London cemetery, and concludes the poeiu 

by observing : — 

Ay, hert? it. shall Vie !— fftr, far frtim the v-iew 

<it the noisy world and it« madduiiing crew. 

Siniplf and few, 

'J"'cnder and tnie, 
The line* o'er \\\s j?rnve. They have, some of them, 


The advantage of beinK remarkfthly new. 
AftUction ?<ore 
Long time he bore, ' 

Physicians were in vain I 

(irown hhtid, alas ! he'd 
.Some Prufwic Aoid, 
And thai put him out of his iiain ! 

John PiCKFORD, M.A. 
Nowboume Rectory, Wood bridge. 

A parody on * Dog Tray ' wa« gimg by the 
popular actor Robson in the burlesque of 
' Masftniello,' written by K. B. Brough, and 
first performed at the Olympic Theatre, 
2 July, 1857. The ehoro.s ran : — 

Old dojr Trnv \\\v\ a pklefvd 

Of iMxifs and |K)tati>es out- tine day. 

And inwJHu the sav'ry iiuiks Jifd 

Was a dose of \>r\\mv neid, 

Which made an end of old dog Tray. 

J. T. 

Clay makea the Shepherd, in the * Intro- 
duction to the Fables,' 1.41, say : — 
Wy rlon: (the trustiefit ot his kind) 
With gratitude inflameH my mind : 
I murk Ills true, his faithful way, 
And ill my service taijiy Tray. 

Robert Pterpodct. 
[Mjt. John T. V\^,y. also i(«oteA some lint» of the 
jiarody. The writer of this nmy have taken \\\^ 
•'lirusiHicacid'' from In^foldshy.] 

'*The Old Hiqhlaxder " (10 8. vii. 47, 
1)2, 115). — Xtv interesting illustration by- 
Hole, a** a tail-piece to p, x of ' The Book of 
Old Edinbiu'gh,' by Dunlop, 1886, show.^ 
an unshaven Highlander confronting a 
tobacconist's figure of a shaven Highlander. 
Xo date is as.signed to the incident depicted. 
In the 1896 edition the illustration is on 
p. viii. W. S. 

MoNTTitESTAL Inscrtpttons : St. Faith 
(10 S. vi. 225 ; vii. 57).— Mr. Gl\"vn's con- 
firmation of the genitive "Fidia" is most 
interesting, and tends to prove that the 
Engli>$h rendering of the name ia either a 
joke or a Idunder. W. E. B. 

.Tf.rijsalem Colhrt, Flekt Street (10 S. 
vii. 20). — Probably this was a court (de- 
stroyed in the Great Fire) situated either 
within the precincts or in the ioimeAieX.^ 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. Fn. 

neighbourhood of the Inner or Middle 
Teinple, and so named from the association 
of the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem with 
the Temple Church. The court is not given 
in William Stow's little * Stranger's Guide,' 
of about 1721, nor in Lockie's or Elmes's 
topographical dictionaries. Neither does 
it appear in Dodsley's * London and its 
Environs,' 1761. 

About the year 1742 another stenographer's 
advertisement appears in The Daily Ad- 
rertiaer as follows, and it will be observed 
that the advertiser hung out his sign *' over 
against the Middle Temple Gate " : — 

J. Weston, I (At the Hand-and-l*en, over-asainHt 
the ; Middle Temple Gate, in Fleet Street) | Ckjn- 
tinues to teach any Gentleman or Ln<1v | his New 
Method of Short- Hand, \i-ithin Six Weeks ; they 
writing | at Home One Hour a Day, and Roming or 
fjeiiding to him for | Instniction once in Two iMvs. 
He teacheR (Tentlemen, at a Distance, | by sending 
them InRtruotionH from Time to Time ; and others 
who had I formerly leani'd the Methods of Mr. 
Shelton, Rich, Aday, Ma8on, | Hyrom. &c. 

Hf also takos doMii Trials at Law, &c., and sells, 

1. HiH Short-Hand (jrammar, (curiouslv engrav'd 
I and authoriz'd by his Majesty) which alone is 
Huttioient to teach the I Ai't i^rfectly, as is attested, 
at tlie l)eginning of the Itook, by aliout | twenty 
(Gentlemen of the Clergy. Law, &c., formerly taught. 
Piife One Guinea and a Half, and Two (tuineas 
on Royal Paper. 

If any Thing seems doubtful, he will explain it 




Tfi^ Worl-M of Wiffiam Shctkifiqiemy.. Vols. VI., 
\11., and VIII. (Stratford-on-Avon, the Sliake- 
si>eare Head Press.) 
This most satisfactory and sumjttuous edition of 
Shakespeare, to lie known henceforward as "The 
Stratford Town Shakes] leare," is on the verge of 
i^>mpletion. Eight volumes out of ten are now 
l>efore us ; and vols. ix. and x., completing the 
etHtion, are in the hands of the binder. 

^'ol. vi., which contains the Second and Third 
Parts of 'King Henn- \^.,' 'King Richard III.,' 
and 'King Henry VIII.,' and conse<iuently finishes 
the plays founded on English histor}'. has as frontis- 
piece a reproduction of R. Earlom's mezzotint of 
the Jansen iwrtrait. VoL vii. includes 'Troilua 
and Cressida,' ' Coriolanus,' ' Titus Andronicus,' 
and * Romeo and Juliet,' and has for frontispiece 
the Davenant bust, coined (for the first time, as we 
Wlieve) by i>ermission from the Garrick Club. To 
the 'Troilus and Cressida' is jirefixed a book- 
seller's preface which is given before some copies 
of the 1009 quarto. (Jifts of prophecy seem to 
have been in the poeseasion of this worthy, who 
declares it to deserve such a labour of comment as 
well as the best oomedv of Terence or Plautus, and 
odds : " Believe this, that when he is gone, and his 
comedies oat of sale, you will scramble for them, 

and set up a new Englisli in(|uisitio 
tragedies, eompnsing 'Timon of Athen 
Csesar,' ' Maclxith,' and * Hamlet, Princ 
mark,' constitute vol. ^nii., the frontisiiiec 
consists of the Felton portrait from the 
by J. Cochran. 

Tlie 8i)ecial merits of the edition an 
Considered as books, the eight volumes ^ 
now ai)i)eai'ed are ontitlea to a forem 
Tji>e, i»ai»er, and other matters are a i 
the si^ht and the touch, and there are 
to which the noble volumes do not form 
ment. On what is their great merit we 
more t^» insist. This is a jierfect text, ui 
comment and undisturbed by wild corijeo 

Smvision of this we are disposed to r^ 
nllen's greatest boon to the drama h 
much, and to the improvement and clw 
wliich he has so largely contributed. A 
no less exemjilary an(f secure than he i 
indisi>ensable to the preiMtration of a t 
so far as the cultivated man of letters is 
is the l)est attainable in rc]to8ef ulness an* 

JtoMcUtpufe A Novel by Thomas Lodj 

ledge k Sons.) 
Undkr this modern-sounding title it is : 
easy to i-ecognize the charming romance 
plied the basis of Shakespeare's 'As Yo 
Tliis work, in itself a classic, has beei 
"The Photogravure and Colour Series" 
Routledge, one of the most attractive 
worthy features in which it immediatel 
With eight jthotogravures and nine lii 
tions in the text by Mr. Thomas &la 
volume, aiiart from its Shakeiqiearian in 
delight. Concerning the extent of Shi 
obligations to Lodge there is no ques 
melancholy and | tensive Jaques : Toud 
most carefully elal>orated of ShakeHiieari 
and Audrey, the priceless hoyden, are Sh 
own intioductions ; but the subordinate 
such as Adam, as well as the essentii 
Rosalind. Culia, and their respective 
recognizable under more or less changed 
asi>ects. All that is wanting is Shaketq 
dialogue, the magic of which is unei|nallc 

Historic Links. By D. L Maguire, h.h.A 

schuin & Co.) 
Miss MAtaiKE has got hold of a good 
worked it out to excellent results in he 
the making of history.'' Topography is 1 
handmaid to History, and better thai 
else helps the student to realise, and evi 
what is otherM'ise a matter of faith. 1 
visit a dismantled castle, mined abliey, o 
hoary shrine with which our England i 
studded, without feeling oonaoioos of '. 
interest stimulated in events of the jiost 
to know something of the miffhty moi 
lived their lives and achieved their fan 
historic landmarks. 

The linkH which the writer selects t 
]>resent with the iwst are St. Albans, 
" the Home of St. Wystan," Hamptoo 
ToM'er of London, &c. With a graphio | 
ceeds in leani mating the peoi>le who OM 
these memorable sites, oud the yoiUMt ] 
whom she writes will inaenaiblv iraMfai 
architecture and antiqnities as theTjBRll 
selves to the duurm of her story. lltM 



lUor )h* taken 

mi»ftrrjnf for 

o '* Well ! " " yriu nee. 

jfCtoJ niuw than some 

,,.iM.-.- " lit the toj* of 

I ■ntii|Ui\ ir 


iSdii, or tiulecii tur lUe 

^ t/or tfoK, (Willing.) 

niviiefl rtutlinrity, jwid cqunlly rlii-ect 
Bnjl'n lVes«« (iiiitle' i>ti!» f«»rth its 
-••« antitml i»*ue. A moro trustworthy 
fthfr i»rf*« i» not to lie lioiHsd. 


^; I r, »f\'ir|fnth ii '"«-> die 

- liojK.' that hv thf fU(l 

.._L. uMe to luivrk " Kolrr' 

oi the iteiuB in theii' nuinennis 

r«fl to Theo. 

Iri-*li r'lit'st, 

; .,, . . ;j!tii Ati>iliortun. 

.1 vcllutn, on 'jtik lMjan|>i, 

^1 . Vitrt Altficonclitn,* 1728> fnliii, 

V. ll>>. : Jinllnrtfitis'H 'Bil>l«otl»eru 

Vrtfi'iiin Patnini.' 14 vol>». , t«ili<i, a 

I in f-rtlf. !;«:>->«, 3«/.: the Komnn 

_j1 iiv the MdnjtitM u\ Butt'. 1* vol.-*.. 

if **{ K<ha»il'!< 'SoriiftoresOHiniH 

UK A tine copy. l.'V. h'l,.-: Mitta- 

loni 'Anuftlea CnmaldulenHis 

nvHv^vi.' .** voN. (vol. ix. in niisi^inj;). 

1773. *t\, .V.' I.v». : ParHotiAH ' Tlnw 

rf KnEl«'"' ' -V. !»-. : i»tkI 'Frthri 

'^ t.v.* .v. r2'. There 

tiian. nnd Trclnml. 

rtrti curious : the 

lOf (■■llowwl hvStoumlitoii'a 

] I Knjjlniul.' Mr. BAkcr has 

iw - V .Jiiteil. 

CortlKT. of HivtjinierHmith. luis in his 

' '^fucrnl h*Ht of modern lnwks. 

thf voriottn heading* of 

V f. Wi- T»ot«» a few items : 

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:V. l.v*. : .Ti>v»».*tt'« 

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ir 'JW. n rlwinmce 

Ia Minor, 

i *i'rtioii 

... ; ...,/» or" //ir 

ms -J. Itu. : and Hrinklfv'n 

-.. IW«4. 7/. 10^._ Thi' 


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NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. fb i 

Historie of Life aiid DcAth,' a very rare volume^ 
1«38, &. ft«.; RaleRh's 'Philip de Comminea,' 1«U. 
4/. 10«. ; and Hollar's ' Theatrum Mulienim/ 1643. 
2(3/. There are some intercHting homilies. 

Messrs. Henry Sotheran k Co. 's Price Current 669 
contains Ampigollus's 'Liber Manualis,' 147fi, 
bound with other black-letter thoologioal incunabula 
in one volume, folio, morocco extra, by DeCoverley, 
14'. ; and the very rare first edition of Baxter s 
- Saints' Everlasting Rest,' l&"iO, 8/. 8^. (the earliest 
edition knoM'n to Jjowndes M'as 16a3). There aru 
sixty entries under Bible, and many of great rarity, 
including the Ashbumham copy of the Polyglott, 
1657-69. 35f. ; the Tyndale and Coverdalo edition, 
IXfi, wV. : and first edition of Cranmur's 154(J. 
rr2/. 10«. Tlie extremely rare Indulgence jirinted by 
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minster 1481, is \9of. " The Witchfinder^s Charter ' 
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many more important items, but sitaoe will not 
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Mr. Thomas Thori>'s Reading Catalogue 171 con- 
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* Heroologia-Anglica,' 1620, 18/. la*.; Lavater, 1810, 
o/. iv*. ; and the rare first editioti of White's ' Sel- 
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under Military. A coi>y of Pickering's beautiful 
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Messrs. Henry Younc & Sons, of Liven>ool, liave 
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Puttick k Simpson indicates how cho: 

^otiaa ta dotttsfanhn 

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(Seeanle, p. 39.) 
icli nbligetl to the reviewer of my 
ind hi;5 Ago ' fur corret'ting my 
ill the hiu»t for iiipntions of rings 
in the tireck tragpcliaiis. As to a 
BBHge whicli oc*"Ui"N twu'L' in the 
he ha* not understood my 
Hf «ay« of uio : — 
,ji lir- pii«ily KttcctitI points in tht'orii'^s 
rut «l»Ut> lit <MMn|M»siiii»ii tor 
).iH-n». Iml Itr Ijhh, )mi his nwn 
unK ^^i Imtoj iu(i«}it-iojm. Thus 
I ix » rnt.i<wl «irnn- 1<» in>*iKt 
ihttffv nnrl wlwjkyK nn in'ti/ tl< 
■ iK'c t4» Mr. iMWAy it 
'iirthtifl liy M'lijfli \\v 
' >t ' liiu- twicv 
il xix. 13) 
'U tht! flirt- 


II ; it may 
. of the 

e 1 the «sA>«v 

K III lln |iav..iyi; i«t Uut iii- 

jtirerl would allow of exoisioiiR of » wholesale 
fha.ract'er— fliioU excifiioiiH, indeed, as are made by 
thost' who sii)>]hmh; a core of narrative uikI a gradual 
(uklition to it, not nece«sftrily conteniporaiioous." 

Had the reviewer read tlie whole oontext 
of my passage — sonio eight line* (pp. 192-3} 
— he would liave found that I am not 
positive when I say, " The line in the 
Odyssey ' must bo a very late addition.*' 
1 offer an alternative explanation : " If, on 
the other hand, the line be as old as tho 
«,»Kie«t part of the poem, the autiior for once 
fi»rgcts liis nsual antiquarian precision." 
The line — which reads hke a proverbial 
8a>-in2 — can only have been made when iron 
wa« the iwual metal for warlike weaponti. 
In the wIkhIc of the rest of the * Oflyssey ' 
hronze is the only metal for warlike gear. 
Therefore either the line ia an addition, 
inserted late, in the full-blown Iron Ago ; 
OT*« if it l>f: a-s old as tJie rest of the epic, the 
poet, or thu pt>ets, elsewhere consiLstently 
sang, with archaeological precision, as if 
they were living in the age of bronze weapons. 
I have argued (pp. L-ti, and elsewhere) that 
no poetH of early imcritical ages, nor even 
the classical i>oetH of critical ages, have •; 
tried to be archn.'ok>gical, or have succeeded 
in archaizing -that the practice is modern. 
Thus tlie crux is. Did the early poets of the 
' Odyssey ' preserve archieological precision \ 
except in a single line, or ia the line a late i 
addition t The reader may chooa© between \ 
the alt«rnativert. 

The reviewer, moreover, has not observed, 
apparently, my denial (]>, 193, note I) that 
the possibility of remoA^ing a line witltoiit in- 
juring the sense is a proof of interpolation. 
Critics are tisually of that opinion wh«'n their 
theor>' can be served by excising a line. I 
never excise a line because it ia adverse to 
my theory. Even in this case, though the 
line contradicts the M-hole imiform tenor of 
both epics — as much so as a hne in *Beo>vulf' 
would do which represented all weapons as of 
bronze— I leave tlu' ipnestion open. I do not 
understand what cbji be meant V»y nn/ntion 
nf a reference, on my j). "2114, to " another 
unfortunate hue in the * Odyssey.' " It is, 
of course, the wame hne, which is twice 
repeated with the rest of the speech in wlueh 
it occiu^, and my argiunent is the same in 
both cases. I do not (p. 204). as alleged, 
'' admit the retention of such terms concern- 
ing obsolete tilings,'^ namely, of " bronze" 
for weapons when bronze hets become obsolete i 
for weapons. 1 ask, // auch terms are' 
retained, what value can be ascribed t^j the 
evidence of the poets on points of cuWvaia^ 


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remarks on more general topics connected 
with the School. 

Robert Francis Walker (1789-1854). divine 
and author. — Chorister 1800-06. Hloxam 
(ii. 115) says of him : — 

** The great Lord Nelson (hikhi his only visit to 
Oxford, during a long vacation, near the close of tlic 
eighteenth century), hajmening to hear him when 
chorister in the College cha|)el, R{M>ke to liim after 
the serv'ioe in commendation ot his singing^ and 
gave him half-a-guinea. The next day Lord Aelsbn 
visited the College School, and, seeing the same boy 
engaged in sketching the building. com];»limente(I 
him on his excellence in this resf»ect, and gave him 
another mark of his ai»jiroval.'' 

He became curate to the Provost of Oriel at 
Purleigh, and translated German Evan- 
gelical theology. Dr. EUerton (of whom 
he was a favourite pupil) possessed a small 
full-length portrait of him (in his cliorister's 
gown), which afterwards belonged to Dr. 

William of Waynflete or Wainfleet (1396?- 
1486), Bishop of Winchester, Lord High 
Chancellor of England, and founder of 
Magdalen College, Oxon. — Elder son of 
Richard Patyn, Patten, or Patton, alias 
Barbour, of Wainfleet. The portrait in 
M.C.S. is a copy from one in the Royal 
Collection at Windsor ; a similar picture on 
panel in the President's lodgings is, j)erhaps, 
an earlier copy of the same original, or even 
a copy of that in the School ; the eflfigj" in 
liis magnificent chantrj- in Winchester 
Cathedral, made during his lifetime, repre- 
sents him as an elderly man ; he appears as 
a support to the cusliion under tlie head of 
the eflHigj- of his father upon the tomb erected 
by the Bishop in Wainfleet Church, now 
removed to Magdalen College Chapel ; a 
mitred head in a window of Thurburn's 
chantrj* (c. 1455) at Winchester College may 
represent him. His mitre, staff, and otlier i 
relics, valued at 2,0002., were delivered up 
by the College in 1646 to a messenger of the j 
House of Lords, and were sold to a goldsmith, j 
an endeavour, after the Restoration, on the 
part of Magdalen to regain the relics, or ; 
recover compensation for their loss, being un- ' 
successful. The episcopal caligse, or stock- 
ings of crimson silk, embroidered with birds 
in gold and silver thread, and with flowers j 
in coloured silks, as well as the sandals of i 

crimson velvet, also elaborately deeonted, 
still remain in the possession of the CoDege. 

Edward Welchman (1665-1739), theo- 
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same year at Magd. Hall ; Fellow of Mecton ; 
Prebendarj' of St. David's; of Uchfidd. 
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on-Avon, used to boast that his father mwfe 
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in fact, published an annotated edition of 

Francis White (b. 1689 ?).— Demy 1610; 
Master of M.C.S. (between Lawrence SneOinr 
and Samuel Barnard) 1614-17; vicar a 
Ashbury 1622-31 ; is mentioned' in Heyhn^ ' 
* Diar>- ' as composer of one or more pup ' 
acted in the President's lodgings. 

William White (1604-78), divine.— Mastff^ 
of M.C.S. (between John Allibond aad 
Thos. Houghton) 1632-48, when eject«d bgr '. 
Parliamentary Commissioners; rector of' 
Pusey and Appleton : published works ia j 
Latin under name of *' Gulielmus Phalerioi.*! 

Robert Whittington, Whytynton, or WW^ 
inton (fl. 1520), granmiarian. — ^Bom pnn 
bably not much later than 1480, he wis il 
M.C.S. under Stanbridge ; B.A. and lauretM 
in grammar 1513, when he assumed tide of 
" ftotovates Angliae '* ; nicknamed by " " 
foes " Boss," in derisive allusion to a 
" boss " or water-tap in the City of 
originally set up by Lord Mayor 
Whittington ; published five grammi 
treatises and translations £rom Cicero 
Seneca ; two of his works dedicated 
Wolsey : said to have been still aliTW 
1530 ; William Lily a pupil of his ; Si 
bridge and A^'hittington authors of 
Latin granuiiars which drove Donatus 
Alexander de Villa Dei out of English 

Christopher Windebank (b. 1615). a 
of Sir Francis {q.v.), may perhaps be 
having become Demy in 1630; lived 
1035 at Madrid, w^here, being "a 
Spaniard and an honest man," Jie was 
useful as a guide and interpreter by ~ 

Sir Kalpli Winwood (1563 ?-1617). 
matLst and Secretary of State. — All 
he matriculated from St. John's Cdl 
1577, aged fourteen, lie was Demy of 
1578-82 ; Fellow and Proctor ; ambt 
to France ; agent to States-General (rf T 
land : Secretary' of State for life ; led H' 
of Commons ; largely responsiUe 
Ralegh's release from tne Tower in 1 
marned (1603) Elizabeth Ball, Sir Tb 
Bodley's stepdaughter. 

Thomas Wolsey (1475 T-lsaO), Ori 

Kirn. 23. im,] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


tatrsman. — Alwayn wrtvte hi* name 

whetliLT first admitted at 

Jen as ehoriHtei*. Hf>rvitor, Demy, or 

aner 18 not ktHjNrn : B.A. at fifteen, 

called the *' boy bachelor," as lie 

tohl his gentleman usher. George 

jli*h, who wrote his life. " I.*' he ift j 

. i\&y in Thos. Churchyai*d'8 * Tragedy 


of wit [tml jjUtittcnu'iit fi»ie, 
-•■■h'lol, Htid i^nive*! h ^^:«x1 divint* : 
'•At jifift-'*. <ie|.rr** of Bchool 1 had 
J WHS, and I ft littlf Uwi. 

' ot M.C.S. for six months d^iring 1498 
_ fn Andrew Scarbott and William 
hewood); Dean of Lincoln. Hereford, 
Jwk, antl St. Stephen's, Westminster ; 
on of Windsor ; accon»panied Henr>* 
11. to ' Field of the Cloth of Gold '' ; 
liftbop of Tournay. of Lincoln ; Archbishop 
' ^'ork : creaUd Cardinal by Leo X. with 
'8t. r»^ilia trans Tiberini," 1.31 5: 
^High Chancellor ; ra|>al Legate de 
_. ^ ; Bishop of Bath and Wells ; Abbot 
[St. Alban's : founrlcr of Cardinal College 
Jly ChriHt Chnrch), Oxford, and a 
i at Ipswich, his native place ; Bishop 
rham, of Winchester ; built palaces 
mnton Court and Yf>rk Place (White- 
aied and buried at l^icester. John 
h'k ' ^V^ly Come Ye nat to Courte t * 
tt«T >iAtire on Wolsey^^o also in some 
ir^ are his poems * Colyn Clonto ' and 
ko, Parrot, in the latter of whicli he 
f" Bo-ho [the King] doth bark well. 
|r.tjffh-ho [Wolsey] he mleth the ring.'* 
\n HaU'of Magd. Coll. and at 
|.ies of the Holbein in Ch. Ch. 
til.' lull face is 'vhoxMi in a drawing 
.ki»d at Arra^. Thonm^ Wynter, his 
^' «»ne Lark-i daugliitcr. later Dean of 
I And ArcljdHftcon of Cornwall, &c., was 
1 'n.ecd under the tuition of 
liaw, l\*her of M.C.S. in 
V Canon of Wells. The 
_'dalen is •<ometiines called 
: but hiM only connexion 
to be that, as Bursar for a 
> during »t* rrr^iion ^ 499-1 500), 
hmvt tfi pay the builder's 

JooddeKon thr- elder (1704-74), 

K»trr 1712 ; Ma^t^r of the Free 

ton 173^72, among his 

iward I..ovibond, (Jeorge 

• Keat^, I"' ■ Gibbon, 

, Franc in , George 

the same naraea, the Vinerian Frofesaop, was^ 
Demy and Fellow. 

Edward Wot ton (1492-1555), physician 
and naturalist. — Son of Richard W., superior 
Bedel of Divinity in the University ; at 
M.C.S. chorister and Demy ; Fellow ; first 
Reader m Greek at C.C.C. ; M.D. Padua 
and Oxon ; President College of Physieianj* : 
physician to Duke of Norfolk and Margaret 
Pole, CountewH of Salisbury ; said to have 
been fir»t Engliwh physician to malce & 
systematic study of natural liistory. 
' Thomas Yalden or Youlding (1670-1736), 
poet and divine. — Son of John Y., some- 
time page and groom of the chamber to- 
IMnce Charles, a sufferer in his cause, and 
an exciseman in Oxford after the Restora- 
tion ; at M.C,S, while a chorister ; Demy ; 
Fellow, Lecturer on Moral Philosophy, 
Bursar, Dean of Divinity ; friend of Addi- 
son and Sachevei*ell at College ; arrested 
during clamour rai.scti about Atterbury'a 
plot, but soon released : his * Hymn tO' 
I),' ^mttcn in imitation of Cowley, 
highly esteemed by Dr. Johnson ; chaplain 
to Bridewell Hospital, wliore ho was buried ; 
gave the College a full-length picture as » 
portrait of the founder. A. R. Ba\tlev, 

St. Marym"vt"». Malvfni. 


' Kisa RiCH.iRD III.,' IV. iv. 175, 
PHREY Horn '• :— 


t lint' ill , 

ilr^ ^v ; 

[>iirh< *-. What foinfortrtUli'hour canst thou name 
That eviM- ^'nieetl iiu' in thy comiiany » 

A'. fii'Jut,'/. Fiiith, none, hut Hitiiif>Iirev Hmir,. 
that rail d yiHir nvnc-e 
To breakfast oiiot? forth of my <i.*«iini>nny. 
Here no explanation in the smallest degree*] 
satisfactorj' lias been offered of the words 
" Humpln*ey Hour.'* I believe we should 

Faith, noMf hut, humph, thf Iiuiir that, kv. 

Singer was the first to suggest that tho 
allusion is to John xvi. 21: "A woman 
when she is in travail hath sorrow, because 
her hour is come ; but as soon as she isd 
delivcrtnl of the child, she remembereth no- 
more the anguiwh, for joy that a man is bom- 
into the world " : and this, it seems to me, 
gives a sure clue to the meaning of the 
passage. Grun, sardonic humour of the 
kind is exactly in Richard^s way; op,, t.g., 
his words to .Anne, I. it, 105 : — 

AttHf, O. Ik- wum |ri-uili«. mild, nud virtuoits. 

Hh»ic. TIm* fitter for the Kiny uf hm\en, tlint 
hntli him. 

'* No hour of comfort, I grant you,*' «k^ 
Richard, *' ever catne to yow Itoxvi uve. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vil fkb. a. 

except, humpli, the hour in which you were 
joyfully dehvered of the burden of your 
womb at my birth." If, as so frequently, 
the definite article were written in the 
syncopated form " ye," the words " himiph, 
the " would easily pass into " Humphrey.'* 

K. D. 

* The Winter's Tale,' I. ii. 171-85 :— 

Lton. So standis thin wiuire 

Ofticcd with me : we two vn\\ walk, niy lord, 
And leave voii to your graver steps. Hermione, 
How thou Iove«t us show in our brother's welcome ; 
Tjet what is dear in Sicily l>e cheap : 
Next to thyself and my youn^ i*over, he 's 
Ainiarent to my heart. 

]itr. If you would seek us, 

Wo are vours i' the gai-den : shall 's attend you 


[Exeunt Pol ixeneM, Jltnnianf, and AttendantH. 

According to the Folio, Leontes states 
that he will walk," but, on reading 
further, we find that he does not immediately 
■do so. The reason for such a statement is 
usually seen in the necessity for clearing the 
stage, but the king should not leave the 
scene, as he is soon to engage in conversa- 
tion with Camillo. It is Polixenes and the 
•queen who go, and from one of them the 

We two will walk, my lord, 
And leave you to your graver stei>8, 
would be apt to come. The two kings 
habitually address each other as " brother," 
but here we find in a supposed utterance 
•of Thelites the queen's ukucu expression in 
addressing her husband, " my Lord," indi- 
cating that she is the speaker. If we fire 
riglit in thinking that Hennione has just 
spoken to Leontes, his injunction to her, 
*'How thou lovest us," &c., would hardly 
bo jjrefaced with her name. The word 
" Hennione," appearing in the text after 
the queen's lines, may recisonably be under- 
stood as properly preceding them, thus 
•correctly assigning the speech. The metrical 
requirements will also permit of the change : 

Ijcon. How tliou 

Lovest UK show in our hi-other's welcome. 

It is the poet's art to make the queen, in 
her innocence, say and do things which fan 
the flame of the king's jealously. In the 
use of " graver," whatever her meaning, the 
idea he takes is that his steps are indeed 
^ave with apprehension, while hers are 
<5ulpabl3r gay. "Graver" is smgularly in- 
appropriate as applied to the steps of the 
aueen and Polixenes, and, if followed, would 
etract from " our brother's welcome." 
It would seem a sneer if spoken by Leontes, 
but it is his cue to be apparently hearty 
^md sincere. " Your graver steps " does 

ax3ply peculiarly to I^ontee, and co 
a hint of the contrast between Hctid 
pleasant, careless occupation as entert 
and the king's more serious thoo^ 
indicated by his present mood (1. 147, 
something seems unsettled "). 

There is a bad mix-up in the Folic 
of this same scene (11. 146-50), and I b 
that a hitherto tmsuspected disarrangi 
of speeches exists in the passage coimu 
upon above. The queen's form of ad 
" my lord," when speaking to the ki 
found in U. 40, 61, 65, 87, also 150 a»c 
in this scene, and elsewhere in the pla) 
£. Mestox D 
St. Louis. 

* Julius Cjesak,' V. v. 73-5 :— 

The elements 
So mix'd in him that Nature might stand up 
And say to all tlie world, '* This was a aiaii ! 
Cf. Drayton's * Idea,' xxi. : — 

At whose deliberate and nnusaall bjrrth. 
The heavens were said to ooonsell to retii 
And in a^^itects of happinease and mirth 
Breath'd him a spirit insatiatly t' asiwre, 
That took no mixture of the pomierous e£ 
But all comprest of cleere ascending fire, 
So well made \\\u that such an one as he 
Jove in a man like Mortimer would be. 
Chas. a. HerpI' 
New York. 

' Mebchant of Venice,' II. ii. 80 (K 
465; vi. 325). — The earliest expression « 
proverb is in ' Odyssey,' i. 215-16, wh* 
is spoken, witliout malicious insinui 
in frank simplicity by the amiable 
machus. On this passage a scholiast q 
as from Euripides the two lines give 
C. W. B. as Menander's. They ma 
found in Dmdorf's ' Poet. Seen.* (1893), 
fragm. 883, or fragm. 1004 in Nauck's w 
(Teubner). Nauck says that Stobaeus (' 
76, 7) attributes them erroneous!; 
Menander. H. K. St. J. 

* All 's Well that Ends Well,' V 
"Purr" (10 S. vi. 323, 605),— Mb. S 
Hell rejects my explanation of the 
" purr " as = pig. His own 8ugg« 
that it is shortened from " pCTfume," 8 
to me absolutely hox>eless. 

To begin with, a critic who inter 
Shakspeiu:^ by dint of a wholly gratu 
and unsupported theory comes into < 
with a rope round his neck ; and in 
present case he is met by the plentiful 
of evidence that in Queen Elizabeth's 
men mangled their words and served t 
up in halves, as we are apt to do. 

But to come to interpretation ol 
passage : — 

. Jiwi. s. m.\ NOTES AND QUERIES. 


• TTO of Fortunes, 8»r, or of Fortunes 

(iilnf into the Fishvoiul of her 

ILL wwhes 118 to understand that tho 
introduces Parolles a^ ** an ' evil 
of Fortune's " ; and this interpreta- 
holds to be Rirnplicity itflelf. I fancy 
V to agree with him. With all 
^ the Clown would scarcely I 
iu->i. But Mr. Hill does not seem to 
'e tltat what might be suitable if 
ie*8 cat alone were mentioned is 
unsuitable for Fortune herself. 
*' purre of Fortn.nes " requires its own 
Rtiation. It must needs be somebody 
ir - . .MuTjg which belongs to Fortune; 
► rty to play vrith, and now her butt, 

K.:.:o the fuihpond of her displeasure. 
cat '* is. a mere afterthought : the 
lA UTe«»i>(tible. 
aft^T all tliis I liave an objection which 
1 to be coucbiMive and fatal. Prof, 
iftor in his recent work on the pronuncia- 
>n of Shakespeare has aliown that for him 
le ^yllablen rr. ir, ur, had each its own 
Juf» wholly distinct from the others:* 
lience it must follow that *' purr '" cannot 
teibly be tlie fii^t syllable of per-fume. 
On the whole. 1 think that if Mr. Hill 
OBt publkli liis unsupported theorj', he 
DtiJd on all grounds have bec^n Ijetter 
jsed to omit hi« quotation of Horace. 
C. B. Mount. 
»y be well, for the sake of accuracy, 
it on record that " a Kjiecies of wild 
not foimd in the I«lo of Man. The 
may haAe arisen from the Manx 
by Dr. Kelly, edited by the Rev. 
in which tlie Manx word " purr " 
islatcd l>y " a wild mountain bnar,*' 
may mean a boar that liad got 
le mountains, or a boar (of probably a 
led) at a mountain farm ; but we 
lutbing here of " wdd pig*»." 

Ernest B. Savaoe. 
nnaii, IVitigloA. 

RCTTAKT or VKNirK.' I. i. 29-36 (10 

04). — A. E. A. quotcH in one of his 

ht> above reference Prof. Skeat's 

glectfd Kng. Diet.' '* Neglected " 

I to • K. & Q.* The late Kev. 

Icred at t» S. v. lr.:i tlic same 

Tiat now brought forward by 

did not replj' to Vu. Spenck, 

^ Pf^nted upon my pro\*iouft note 

SJI), for the rcaiion that the Furness 

in thnt note fl^rm*"tf ^uflficient 

< 'laren- 

don, * is obscure, and the construction 

I abrupt, if " this " refers to the spires and 

! silks just mentioned.' " It would, of course, 

I be impossible for *' this " to refer to the 

I merchandise without our understanding 

*' worth " as referring to the speaker ; otlier- the import ia that the merchandise i.s 

worth itself. Therefore neither Dr. Spence 

nor A. E. A. has made a discovery. In 

addition to tlte " Clarendon " reason, it ift 

hardly likely that a merchant would apeak 

of himself as " worth nothing '"" in tlie event 

of one of liis shipments having gone astray. 

E. Merton Dey. 

St. Louis. 

'He^mv IV'..' Part I., IT. i. : " STtrNCf 
LIKE A TKNCH " (10 S. vi. 504).— Pliny the^ 
Elder tells us that fish are tormented by 
fleas ; but in this dialogue Shakespeare is. 
obviously burlesquing tlie vulgars' habit 
of irrelevant compariaon, satirized by otliern 
as welL "Dank a.H a dog" phows thi» 
clearly enoxigh. John Taylor the Water 
I*oet tells of a person whose phrase of all 
work waa "' like a dog " — that another 
" lied like a dog/' &c. A venerable joke of 
my boyhood was of a woman who said she 
waa *' as wea,k aa a horse, and hatl no more 
appetite than a hog." Forrest JIokuan. 
Hjirtfortl, Conn. 

See the note on this line in Dr. William J. 
Rolfe'a edition of the plavi p. 157. 

N. W. Hill. 

It is usually Bupposed that we ought to 
read, instead of like a tench," "like a 
trout," which is, as is well known, covered 
with crimson spots t — 

SMJft trouts, diversified with crimson ataniR. 
Po]»tf'8 *\Vind»cir For«st,' 14.1, 

The tench is covered with a slime supposed 
to be of a healing nature. 

John Pickfobd. M..A. 

* Henry IV'.,' Pabt I., 11. iv. 134: 
" Pitiful-hearted Titan, that melted " 
(10 S. vl 504)-— Theobalds emendation^ 
adopted by Mr. Davey, leaves the passage' 
as unintelligible as before, and more in- 
coherent. If "butter" had been meant 
instead of " Titan," Sliakespeare would havo 
iised " melts " in place of " melted " — 
Kurely that phenomenon was not a pat^t and 
unreciu-ring one ; and wlio is Titan, and why 
should he bo dragged in by the heelj^. with 
nothing to do and no coiuiexion with tho 
melting t WarburtonV. usually adopted, 
is worse — parent hcHizinp '* pitiful -hearted 
Titan," and still leaving the butter lo vft»\V 

Tvithout relation to \im\ ; besides making 
the pitiful-liearted object one thing and the 
melting one another^ " which i3 absui'd," 
.am Euchd waa wont to remark. And equally 
it leaves Titan not even a myth. The tiiith 
ia tlio passage is meaningles« under any 
theory yet suggested ; but one guess attains 
half-way to a rational fiolution. and I will 
complete it. If not the true one, at least it 
«» one* and none other ever has been oven 
that. The allusion must be to some classical 
story of a being who melted in the sun : who 
did so '! Only one person, Icarus — or his 
wings did ; but Phaeton was sun-stmck 
and dazed and burnt up. It is plain to me 
that " Titan " is a mishearing of " Phaeton," 
which Shakespeare wrote, and that Shake- 
speare himself either conloimded Phaeton 
with Icarus, or used '' melted " for the sake 
of the play on tlie resemblance between the 
t4aek rumiing down Falstatf's fat jowl and 
tlie dripping of melting butter in the sun. 
It is true that when PJiaeton kisses the buttor, 
it is the latter that melts, not he : Imt the 
<^onceit riieans t^uuply^ — ^" Did you never 
see Phaeton melting butter with his kisses, 
just as he too with his soft heart melted imder 
the sun's warm conlidences ? " 

FoREEST Morgan. 

'Hamlet.' I. ii. 131-2 (10 S. vi. .505).— 
I mucli doubt whether Shakespeare, if ho 
was aware of the quotation from the Apo- 
•cryplia as given by the querist, had the same 
in view in this instance. It seems far more 
probable that he was vaguely dreaming of 
tlie Sixth Commandment and its implications, 
as has been supposed. The word '* canon " 
is used again in ' King John,' II. i. 180, by 
the Lady Constance in alkision to the Second 
Commandment ; see Bishop Wordsworth's 
book * Shakespeare's Ivnowledge of the Bible/ 
1892. p. 149. X. W. Hill. 

Februahy 30. — In looking tlwough a 
friend's collection of menus I found one 
datcHl February 30, 1904. I thought, 
naturally, that it was a printer'a error, but 
found that I was mistaken and that the date 
was perfectly correct. It occurred in the 
following curious manner. The dinner was 
on board the Pacific Mail Cotnpany^s ship 
Siberia, croaaing the Pacific from Yokohama 
to San Francisco. A day wat^ thus gained, 
and happening as it cUd at the end of 
Februarj', 1904 (leap year), another day was 
added to tiie month. The date, therefore, 
although unconventional, is quite legitimate. 
This seems to tne to bo curious enough to be 
put pn record. Frank Sculoesser. 

J^ (•roBVeuor Kood, WesHmiuattr. 

Coleridge's PoE>f on 
In the late Mr. Dykes < -: 

Coleridge's * Poetical \\'ork» i,.M>i:aii!i— . 
1893, in one volume) there is a pof'm <»f t^ 
quatrains entitled * Homeless.' T ; 'i^ 

as printed from MS. ; in a;ssi|^ » 

query, to the year 1810 ; and ts laarkci i» 
the index with an asterisk as '* now St* 
printed, or collected." Thi * --' : 4aa 
was, however, ]irinted eighty ^ 

In TIic Litcrari/ Miujtift for Jau.i.u s. s>i>i 
p. 71 there appears 

An Imi'homi'Ti os C 
C), Christ runs iMyl 

A foret.'vistt? firnu h.j. l^.:. 
To liiui wlu» hath a happv hotiit;, 

Aiui lovf rctuiiiwl fiiT ht\t' ; 
*K ChriiHlnirts lUy I "' 

The luirh iii Mcni. 
To him whii ViHlks ai.-M.- LUi.mjjn 1, 11. 

The •ksol/uc ill htiirt • .H T, C. 

This ia practically identical witli l>yi» 
Campbell's version, except that he tn»kn 
the second verse a rrniirnprit ..». ti .. ^r^_ 
This he does by put t -rj 

"* On the abovt^ " i i. i. ;j 

The title, however, is different. Mr L i - 
Hai'tley Coleridge has a pa)>er in f ' 
part of the Tran^actiatta of the J' 
of Literature (Second Series, x^ "^ 

122) on 'Coleridge. Wordswortii, aiut tL- 
.\inerican Botanist Wdliam Bart ram.' b 
this he mentions a copy of Bartram'4 
* Travels ' with the inscription : ** .S. T 
Coleridge, Highgate, April, ItJls."* Tlia* 
are no marginaUa, but 

"oil the HvK>af H^i-avvled in ).. 
hand, aw thfMi pathetif liiirs^ m I 
rtie, can .surely have I i^vi) writ tt'n nvio. onv, r ti^ 

Then follow the two verses a]read3' l^clfi 
with the variant 

And hivf rt'tiuitetl fmiu li»vc. 
The LiUrari/ Magnet ia not trt^ntff*w4 
in Haney's 'Coleridge BibK 
editor must have been an : 
ridge, for he gives the 'Dmn-gii^: ' { ' ii>^ 
seldom, friend ") in the numbei* for Jwlf, 
1827, but without ment- t it ' 
appearance in The Mo 
he gives in the same,,^. ,., 
gram * (*' Charles, grave or merry 
the same source : he gives * .A • 
WTitten on a blank jjago of Butt 
the Roman Catholic ClmrLli* 
it from The Standard : 
and Age' ("Verse, a ( 
straying ") from * 
and 'The Wamlerir 
' Bijou.' 

i:*. 1907.) NOTES AND QUEKIES. 


iV be other Coleridgeaiia in The 
tagnet. I Imve not aocefls to a 

Wii-LiAJki E. A. Axon. 
iCAnipliell t-eatlH 

id lt*vf r<--tuni«?d from Ii»vi% 
tJir iin^t «iimtiaiii within «|UcitAtirm 

ON THE Whebl. {Hee 9 S, vi. 
455. 513; >'ii. 135. 190, 337) 
Obeerver, 10 March, 1905, 
He di-atli of Mr. C. S. Hadden, 
rietor, records that at Magde- 
rent to in 1835 and left in 
[ian, convicted of inurder- 
B» suffer the penalty of being 
the wheel," a8 far aa the ideati 
permitted. She was brouglit out 
ce of execution, faatened tiglitly 
by Rtrapa round her neck and 
in that operation either killed 
rendered unconscious by strang- 
er that took place the horrible 
' two strong executioners breaking 
with a heavj' wheel, 
rhaps worth a note in * X. & Q.' 
►rho witnes8c«d this, a J. P. of Herts 
wa« recently among us. deserib- 
"ble scene. Handford. 


rt'«|ii<-«*t «wreH[H»mlentJS deniring in- 
i tAiiiily «i«itterHol only jirivate iJttereflt 
■ uamcH and addre^aeg to thi-ir i^ueriee,, 
\ ajiftwcrs rimy be sent to them direct. 


XD Er.— The foJIowing is a furtlirr 
he dpscfridants of the Countens of 
' whose it»8ue (if any) 1 am 
M (uee 10 S. vi. 40*7, 508). 
re-?» in parentheses are for my guid- 

Khz. .Trtne, da. of Hon. Sir 
I ' Mrtjor \Vm. B. . R, H . A. , luid 

KraucM VAit. P.. sinter 

«./!.) of John Home, of 

HcrtA, m. 1851 Ut-ut, -Col. 


-Han. JiMMJ Anne 'i., t«. 1829 

' < '. 

Hon. Oirohni* North (J., m. 
HtigU Porcy I>. of Swftrlnnd 

5 11,.,. 1. ..,„.»,. M...1,|,j I ^ 

I D.D, 

il iiloii. 

li.l I. ITti'.'; in. 1-.L Thus. \V., I'ihUv 

1 . mud had issue by Ui mar, t* Landed 

r ). 

Hunt'(inifloii (t»). — FraiiWR H. of Bcretittun, b. 

I7t>.'i ; ni. I-*m ih <».. d. 1 » i5. 
Him t-Adftuii* (70). —Sarah H. of Boreattun. h. 1710: 

in. Uvv. Wni. A. of C..UII.J, D.U.d. I7.S«t and 

Imd i-SHiic r Lourled (JcMitt-y'). 
Hanlwan''<iricr (71). Jolm H. of Janiaioi* ( !">*•). 

i|. l7tKt. li-aving a da. Maryon, ni. 17'*7 KoVmti 

(I. of Jiiniuica iOnnt'itKJ'H 'Choshiii',' l.*W2. ii. 

}.. Sill. 
HiudwrtiC'Piorce<7.1l.— Jane H.,h. 1703; m. - P. 

of ruj. <ilono. and had i««in< Uev. P., D.U., 

rector of West Kirklty I7W (»/m/.). 
Hunt, Lloyd, and Birth <74i.— Elin. ond l^titia. 

drtK. of Rowland H. of Bore*itt4)ii, d. 17(10; m. 

Lloyd and — Birt'li rcsiicctively. 

F«tlcv-Howard l75|. — PenelojKv da. of Paul V. of 

ppi^lwo<jd, m. {'! c. 173W) Fraticis H. of Lileli 

field iBrydges's *C^Uinfi.' vii. 498). 
Foley and Price <7«I.-Cai.t. Thos. F„ R.X.. d. 

1770, It'll vine (with a JJnd da., Mrs. Wliitmnre 

ol Ajvluv) Tlios., Charlotte Anj^iiftta, and Khz., 

wiio of Hy. P. of Knighton. 
Foley (7*1).— ThoH. Philip, Roh. Raltih, and Mary 

Aiiiie, hi-oH. and HJater to Maj.-lJen. Rich. Hy. 

F. d. 1S24. 
Fi»l«.'y-M\isnrave (76),— Helen, da. of <:en. R.H.F, 

m, MnRfiravc, M.R.C.S., and had a win 

Keginaid (FoHter';* ' lV*rrt^a^* IHHil. f. *J»irp). 
Fol«v-Whitniorc (70). — Rev, Hy. Thos, F., r. ♦»? 

Holt, I'll. Wore, and his si.^tcr Poneloin.-. wife 

of U*-\: Hy. W., r. of Stockton, <m.. Saloii 

Ashhurst-HarHftt (77).— Frantos Eliz. A. of Watcr- 

•%lotk, in. 18.% Thos. (ieo. H. of Twickfiiham, 

and had lissne. 
Ashhni St and Ikirien (77).— ^Jas. Hy.. b. 17»2 ; 'I hn«. 

Hy.. l>. 1784; and <irai'e. who in. 17tMi i;lhj. IX 

and hml \^»nv, ehildi-en of Sir Wul Hv. A. 
Clcrku Willi'H i77). Diana Susanna C, »\tiU>v to th*.- 

7t!i Bart.. »1. 1778; m. Rev. E. W. uf Ntwlwld, 

ft*. Warwick. 
A>hhui>it-Slint/: (77), —Dorothea, sifter to Sir Wni. 

Hy. A.. HI. 170.*! .S|*ncer S. and had isNui-. 
Ashhtirsr-Wanter (77).— Kli/.., aunt to aU'Ve, at. 

]7.V» Rt'V. .Ftdin W., D.l)., and bad iMsiie. 
Cavt'ndisb (11)0). Fred, and Hy, C, the finiiieut 

fhuniist, sons of Lord Chas. C., M.l*. 
Scyniour-de Dnrfort (113).— lieorgina S,, sinffr to 

iiIku e, ni. Luwj», Count do Durfort, AmlMisaador 

at Venict*. 
Stymour Bailey (115). -Mary S. of Redland Ct., 

f!o. <;lovio., ra. 30 Nov. 1758 John Bailey, of 

M«Mire.C^mi>bcll (I17).-Lucie Caroline M. (Drog- 

hefhi), d, ISW; ni. Rev. John J«vs. C, v. of 

(;t. Tvw, and had a <la. Kli/.. Mary. 
Tmich.Iohnstonet 117). -Harriet T., d. 1»40 ; m. a« 

1st wife, ItCfi, Vcn. Evans Johnfitone, Aivjid. 

of FlMllS. 

Moore {118).— Anne and Selena Maria M., vr. daa. 
and c«»hs. of Ad. Sir John M., Bart., and sistew 
toCath- Lady Bainpfyldi-. d. 1823. 

Moore (1-3)). - Hon. Win. .M. of Ardt-e. M.P., d. 
17ti, Ih Mtat^nl by Burke to have m. MisH Cflat<an, 
leister of Stciiheii C of (Queen's Co.; bnt Collinsi, 
i\. 'JS, and Anhdairn 'LimIxl-." ii. \V2. -^ty that 
bo in. (artiulea Zi and 24 Mar,). 1717, Ln^ y. da. 
of Kuv. KtlwarfJ ParkioHon. of .\rdec, aiiil siNtcr 
lit K«»l». P., covnw ilhir-atlaw. Whiohis etiiifctr 

Ho hud i^Huu Hy. M., m. <l. of Smyth, and 



NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vil fhi. %m. 

MiKH-e (121). -Hon. C*pel M.. M.V., 1>. 18B3: m. 

I^tiy Mary O'Neill, m/V Paulet, and had iwue a 

Ron and *2 daa. (CoUinR, ix. 2M, and Lodue, 

ii. 112). 
Roohfort (122).-Capt. Wm. R.. R.N., cadet of 

Ro(!hfort, d. 184/, leaving 3 das. 
Butler-l)iiniaru«iue (123). — Jjadv Kliz. Soiihia B. 

(LanesborouKh), ni. 1828 Lti-Oil. Hv. 1).. d. 

Marlo^-Moore (123). — Catli. M.. ni. Rev. Calvert 

Fitz(i»'rald M., of Twickenham. 
Butk'r-l)cl)l)ieK (123). -Lady Chailotte B. (Lane«- 

Itorougli), m. 18()0(ieo. 1). 
Butlei-MareHcotti(123). — Lady Sojt.hia B. (Lanea- 

iKirouifh), ni. 1787 Maniuis Lewis Man>M!Otti. 
Roehfort-lHvnvers (124). —Frances R., ni. (•<■. 1W«) 

•Inland Dan vera, and ha<l ifwue. 
Rochfort-Rrte (124). — Cath., sinter t<» Com. (4eo. 

Rob. R., R.X. (m. 1814), m. Capt. John Rac, 

72nd Re«t. 
Rochfort - Wilwn and Dntton (124). — Kli/.. and 

Patience, das. of Arthur R.. LL.I).. M.P. 

(h. 1711), ni. Rich. \Vilf»on and John Ihitton 

i-esj I ec lively. 
Roclifort, Weeks, Doyly, Kil|>atrick. and (irange 

(126).- Wm. R. of Clontarf, d. 17?2; m. 1743 

and had issue Geo., eld. s. in 1772 : John.ehl. s. 

in 1783: Wm., Hy., Anne, m. Weeks; 

Diana, m. Doyly; Henrietta, m. Kil- 

Irtitriok ; Mary, m. (iran^e: an<l Judith 

(Burkc'rt * Extniet Peerage." ]i. 4i)H). 
Lyons. Nixon, Barry, and <ianlen (128;.— Hy. L. of 

River Lvons, Rings Co., had issue Ainic, m. 

John N.: Eli/.., m. July, 17B2. Roh. B.. M.P. 

t(ir Chtirlcville ; and Hen., m. 178J) Rob. (i. 
.Moore (i:iO). Hon. Wm. Hamilton M., m. Eliz.. 

Dow. Ct«s. of Meath, iicf Lennard, and liacl 

i-*snc EH/., b. 4 June frl(«8]. Lodge (ii. 112) 

and Collins (ix. 2.'>) }»oth have "4 June. UMiS": 

but as li.T mother's first husl>nnd, the 3nl E. of 

Mrutli. (1. I(W4, this must lie a mi-sjirint. 
Ploaso reply direct. 

(Marquis de) Ruvigny. 
(ijilwiiy Cot ta;rp, Cht-rtsey. 

Countess of PoNTiiiEr. — Hy. Se^nnour, of 
Kedland (^ourt, oo. CJlouc, married 'secondly, 
5 Oct.. 1775, Louise. Countess of Pontliieu 
of Xonuandy (see ' Landed Gentrj- '), — Any 
information regarding lier family, date of 
death, &c., would oblige. 

(Marquis de) Rr\^a^-Y. 

<ialway Cottage, Chertsey. 

'Thk Kin-gdom's Istklligenter.' 1660- 
1663. — The^ Parliamentary Intelligencer be- 
came The Kingdom^ 8 Intelligencer on 31 Dec., 
1660, and continued till at least 24 Aug., 
1663. Tho British Mu.seuni Library- Cata- 
logue states, " The journal was discontinued 
in August, 1663.'' The paper was reprinted i 
at Edinburgh, and copies of this issue are 
known u]) to 23 July, 1663. Hugo Arnot, 
the historian of Edinburgh, says, liowever, 
that '■ from the copies wo have seen of this 
paper it subsisted at least seven years '* ; ' 
and in an unprinted * Histoiy of \Scottish ' 
Printing ' left by Geo. Chalmers, the author 

of * Caledonia,' ' Life of Ruddimaa,* &c.. 
tliere occurs the notice of an isstie daled 
September, 1664. A copy was in his pot* 
session. What authority has the Bntiih 
Museum Catalogue for stating that the joarail 
ended in August, 1663 ? Are any iniMi 
known after that date ? W. J. C. 

Gladstoniana : " Glynnkse."^! hwe 
met with a small 12mo volume of 112iMgNi 
apparently publislied privately : " Contri* 
butions towards a Glossary of the Glyimi 

Language. By a Student to whidi i> 

added The Doubting Dowager, or a Tale of 
a House, an Epic Poem in One Caata 
1851." It contains explanations of some 
125 words and phrases in what the author 
terms " Glynnese " language, of which h» 
says, in a short preface, 

**the chief livinjr authorities for it« use are tk 
Very Rev. the Dean of Windmr. the Hon. Li4f 
(ilynne. Sir Stephen (Hyiuie, Mra. W. K (iladsUm, 
and the I^dy Lyttelton ; and of these the moik 
leading aiii»car to l)e the Dean and Mra. (iladMtane.* 
Whoever was the author, he am)ean to 
have been on a familiar footing at Hawarden 
and Hagley ; and though the work, whi(^ 
cannot have been altogether palatable to 
its subjects, is primarily concerned with thl 
persons mentioned, there are several alhl- 
sions to Mr. Gladstone and to idiosyncrasiol 
attributed to him ; and also a four-pagi 
** Fragment of a Speech in the House o£ 
Connnons by The Kt. Hon. W. E. Gladstone 
in which tlic whole Glynnese vocabulary • 
aired." The ])ook has no publisher's name 
on the title. Is anything known as to tbt 
author and tlio occasion of publication ? 

W. B. H. 

' Penrose's Joitrnal ' : Turtle-wdd** 
— Some time ago there was a good deal d 
di.scu.s8ion about being able to ride on a 
turtle in water. I came recently on tbi» 
passage : — 

"One tine m(K>nli}rht ui}£ht, as we were *t^ 
snoi't. Harrv somewhot loo ini^iatient for the tnrti 
to tix hersetf, i>\\v discovered hini,and made at oa* 
Iwck for the si*a. Ohservinj? this, he ran AU^ll 
jwtride on her Iwuk, graspinj? the forei>art of ■ 
(rallipash. Seeing this, I ran too and got on behw 
and Patty came and clung round my waist. W 
withstanding this, she was so large and strong tf'^ 
»lu' scruhhle<l us fairlv into the sea. Patty luinb 
otr iMickwnrds. 1 slid otf on one side, and lowt 
hat : but Harry stuck on her, till she sank him 
to the fhin, and then he left her." 
This, I think, whether fact or fictifli 
*• takes the cake " for turtle-riding. H* 
on a turtle ! The extract is from a bfl 
in my possession, entitled '* The Jo^MDjJ^ 
Llew'ollin Penrose, a Seaman. A S* 



Loudon. Taylor, 1825»8vo,pn. 446. I of Anno'a divorce known? Any detailiit 
,vi* put the'* book down as s Welsh ; which can be given nie, or directions where 

5q CruRoe.' but it is dedicated by 

lil<ir. John Eagles of Bristol, to 

" t. Esq.," the celebrated 

~ " kind permission," and 

intimate knowledge of the 

the eircuin«tance of his having 

.,i.^....,*.i to you many of the facts 

hI in it.*' Eagles also asserts that 

kurv. Eagles's father, who in 1805 

Penrose'^ Journal,' and West 

1 1 parts : *' I know to be true : 

(lan too, and, what is more 

; . had it not been for liira I 

Bjftver have been a ]>ainter." He 

^P that he met him at Philadelphia ! 

►. viii West says that the nian'a real 

wfti* Williams, and he took that of 

p from a great shipbuilder. Now 

mentions that West received 

Ji at Pliiladelphia. from a 

A illiams ('Imperial Die- 

11 v.TK«l Hiogrftpby,' id. 1327), 

fT<« t.> Calt's ' Life of West.' This 

show that Peurof^e wa"i not a 

on Crusoe, but an Alt^xander Selkirk. 

^ a.„,.^ reader can prov^e whetiier the or not. If it is, it is an 

' hberty to toko with Wests 

n> liimself was mistaken. 

D. J. 

t( 4in<i li'dnir Mtnfc timl John Knglc« was 

OLY » Ekolaxd. — I should be 
obliged to any correspondent who 
iform me as to the supposed number 
A in thia country about 1772. when 
Isnsli^ldV decision declared such 
• iUeg»l. iKgirmER. 


Anxious to collect as much uifor- 
u» |)OMiblf about this royal lady, my 
u. She was born isi 1439 at 
igliuv : married to Hetuy Holland, 
f whom, apparently, she 

- (?) : married secondly 
I^'ger in 1473-4: had one 
r «e€'OTid marriage. Anno, who 
PA, Lord Uoos ; and 
I omh of herself and 
.1.4 St. Iwcger is, or 
•el, Windisor. I Hrid 

' ■ JlO 

i he 

to find such details, I shall receive grate- 
fully. I have other royal descent*?, but the 
one through Anne is the last, and conse- 
quently the most intercHting. Helga. 

AtTTHoas OF Quotations Wanted.^ 

1. The tomlw of Maoleod oml Maclean, of Mack'nn 

and Maoleod, 
Thev fttAiid in the wind and the rain, and the 
drift of tho white aea shroud. 

2. He oftme <in the AnK^?! "f Vint^jrj**** wing. 

But tlie Annel of Dcnth was ttwaitiiiu thy Wing. 

3. He die<l. fts such u man )ih«>uld die. 
In the hot cla.«»i> of Victory. 

4. Et la l)oiine vieille dc dire, 
Moitii"' larnu'H, moitit? Bourirt?*. 
J'ai mon gars, soldat, cuinnie Un. 

W. Edward Oswet.l. 

I in>>^urre(rtiou agAi|)3t 
Vro arjy particulars 

Lattx Lines. — Whence are the following 
lines taken 1 Apart from the authorahip, 
there can be, I think, but little question aa 
to the trutli conveyed : — 

Errata alteritia <i«i.sque» correxerit. ilhun 
Plus mtiB invidiits gloria nullo nmnel. 

Edward Lathav. 

Flavian Monks. — In the *R6inLscho Tage- 
biicher * of Ferdinand Gregorovius (Stutt- 
gart, 1893), p. 124, and under date '' (lenez- 
zano, 13 August, 1861," the following entry 
occurs in a description of La Mentorella, in 
the Cainpagna : — 

•• lia-^illea imd Kloster, wo FlavLsc-he MiiuohG aich 
IwHndon. liegL'nauf dom riffartighemufwiirinjtenden 
Feliieii ui unbeschreiblioh »ch<»ner Einflanikeit." 

Will some one please say what is meant 
by " Flavische Mcinche " ? I am told that 
the Italian translation has floridi for ** Fla- 
vische." C. C. B. 

HjlTchino Chickkns with Artificial 
Heat. — In Thomas More*a ' Utopia ' (first 
printed in 1351) occurs the following : — 

** They hryngo vp a gr-eat multitude of pullcj'no 
and that by a nicnmylotise i>olicyo. For th« hutines 
doe not syttu vj»on the cgge« : but by kecpynge 
thfyni in a ctTtnyne e<|UalT heate they nryiigu lyt'e 
into them and Uatohc theym." 

WHien was thi.'i idea first put in practice T 
The incubator now in use in quite a modern 
invention. Henry Fishwick. 

Tho HeighU, Rochdale 

Windmills in Sussex. — Can any reader 
inform me if there are any returns by which 
the number of windmills in Sussex can 
be ascertained ? P. M. 

JoitN Law of Lairiston. — From a 
newspaper cutting I find that aowv^ ^««s% 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. feb.3. 

ago a collection of over 400 books relating 
to John I«aw of Lauriston, the famous 
financier, was sold by auction in London. 
I shall be greatly obliged if £uiy one will 
kindly inform me when the sale took place 
and in whose rooms. John A. Faibley. 
3, Bamton Gardens, Davidson's Mains, Midlothian. 

N. F. Zaba. — ^This Polish exile was living 
in Great Britain during part of the last 
century. Some of his writings are nuned 
in the British Museum Catalogue. I have, 
however, a work entitled * N. F. Zaba*s 
Method,' which is not in that Catalogue. It 
consists of a sheet of linen on which are 
printed a large nimiber of black squares, 
on some of which are coloured marks ; and 
the whole is folded, and enclosed in a sti£E 
pocket. The * Method * is qidte unintelli- 
gible to me, and I should be glad to hear 
&om any reader who has a copy and can 
explain the meaning. M. 

Chavasse Family. — ^I desire to find out if 
one Claude Chavasse came to England with 
Lord Derwentwater in the seventeenth 
centiuy, and how to treu:e him afterwards. 

Also I want to find out if there is or was a 
cottage at Lichfield called the Frenchman's 
Cottage where a prisoner named Chavasse 
is said to have been kept. 

Emma Durham. 

(10 S. vii. 50.) 

I CANNOT vouch for the veracity of the 
story as told by Sir Thomas Malory, of 
which L. E. is probably aware, but doubt- 
less there is a substratum of truth, and some 
scintilla of evidence in favour of such is, 
I think, to be found in some place-names 
of early Dublin, Phoenix Park, and Chapel- 
izod. Isolde was an Irish princes, and 
certainly gave her name to the last-named 

My first contention is that the storj' 
either originally emanated from Dublin, or 
was publicly accepted by its inhabitants aB 
a well-authenticated fact. The following 
is from the * Liber Albus,' the White Book 
of the City of Dublin : — 

"The Mayor and commonalty of the city of 
Dublin grant to their beloved and faithful clerk 
William Picot, for his praiseworthy services, tim 
tower which is called Butavant, situated upon thu 
bank near Isolda's sate, together with all the land 
adjacent between the street, through which the 
passi^ is from the aforesaid Isolda's tower towards 

the church of St. Olave's, and extending f 
street as far as the new wall towards tl»' 
Auenlyf (Liflfey)." 

Now the inference which one dra? 
this extract is that, though Butovi 
an older tower, Isolda's was better 
as a well-defined and popular lai 
These river towers, which formed pai 
city walls, must have been one 
centuries old when this was written 
and they certidnly carried their 
names. Now not only have we an 
Tower and Gate, but there was alsc 
Lane. Further, Ysorde aad Ysc 
used as female Christian names 
Dublui. These names would suggesi 
story had such passionate interest 
citizens of Dublin in the elevei 
twelfth centuries as the great love 
of Isolde. That this hot interest 
due to close local association is c 
proved by the fact that Tristan, w 
the major part in all the literatur 
subject, is never once mentioned 
traditions, possibly historic facts, 
petuated in these place-names, 
westwards to what is now the 
Park, we find hi * The Record of tl 
of the Franchises of Dublin ' in 160 

"They past over the water of the C 
and went oetwixto the arrable land calU 
Leis of Kilmainham, and the meddowe u 
and soe directly westward to th&t pai 
meddowe that Iveth opix>site uppon tha 
the hill called Kilmahennockes hill, anc 
hill of Isold's font, which is a bowshot o 
syde of Isold's font, and west of Elle 
meddowe, over which font is a great ha 

and then tooke horse and rodeeasi 

and by north Isold's font-, and to the font 

Notice must be taken of the i 
fact that both hill and font were > 
distinctive landmarks, and recog 
such by the city fathers, for they t 
to mark the boimdary of their ci 
diction. This in itself goes to show t 
were notable places of resort, an< 
or font or well was certainly re| 
the tryst ing-pl ace of Isolde and Tn 

I have sought to locate the lull 
From the various accounts they "w 
of the Liff ey, and near Ellen Hoare'e 
which was evidently between the 
the highway. From the descriptic 
minutely detailed, the hill can be n 
than what to-day is known as the 
Hill in the Phoenix Park, and the 
at its base — which, alas ! dribblo 
thick mud and rotten vegetation- 
connexion with the historic foul 
of a good-sized pool are stiU to 

viL Fm 23, jgo; ] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

^e age-blackened trunk of an ancient 
liom fitni stands at its head. VV'ar- 
Dn speaks in liis liLstoiy of Dublin of 
blde'g fort in the park.'* Some amall 
w probably topped tliis hill, and the 
liar name lingered on, even into the 
iktt»enth and eighteenth centuriea. Let 
'Untinne to proceed westwards* to the 
\ where atiU her name alone peqietuates 
Dcient renown. Tradition states that 
little chapel that gave the district it«« 
I was reared and endowed by Isoud in 
519. This is, of course, beyond 
fttion ; but the remains of an ante- 
i chapel not far away lend some colour 
Bt to the antiquity of the district as an 
|)ited area. lf^ou<Vs chapel has entirely 
e«re<l. For long it stood in a loiine'd 
iion, and some of the older inhabitantn 
I vague recollections of it as a place of 
Vip, and rejnember that a large section 
congregation were forced, through 
lof room, to kneel outside. It stood a 
[ distance from the present Protestant 
The name Chapelizod can be traced 
' in State documents to the eleventh 
relfth centuries. Stanihurst in 1577 
** There is a village liard by Dublin, 
of the said la Beale, Chappel Isoud." 
' late years the old square tower attached 
rot«*tant Clmrch has become a sort 
.:ig-point for the growing cult of 
It is said to have been erected in 
Kteenth century ; probably the material 
"ken from an older building, and in 
ray the chain of association was pre- 
.4Lt leaat it must have stood for 
ries in the vicinity of the little liistorical 
It has no rival in the village as an 
of antiquarian interest, and should 
Lv ♦:! .i..f'.,,Mi,eiit memorial to the beau- 
' ss, whose love and piety 
, . _ r the nomenclature ol the 

. The Question suggests itself. When 
oldc build this httle chapel 7 Cer- 
not before she left Ireland with 
for romwall. I have had to resort 
'ture for a satisfying solution, 
ua that King Mark tracked 
I castle of Joyous Gard {which 
tifled with Bamburgh Castle, 
L,L of Beanvick), where 
him ; and further 
tJKit i.a Beale I&oud died 
upon the cross of Sir Tristram, 
'It pity." Th' ^ r Micle 
lut her death roly 

her lover : oii* .i..,> con- 
he returned home t«j Ireland, 
5b the example nf <;uenuver» 

entered a religious house. This would bo 
the time she reared and endowed the chapel 
which hsji perpetuated her name in her native 
land. Dante, when ^■j8iting the lovers' 
quarters in Hell, recognized many an un- 
hai»py pair who on earth loved *' not wisely, 
but too well,'* He noticed Tristan there, 
but makes no mention of Isolde. Dante 

f)oasibly was aware that she had expiated 
ler sins by a life of severe i^enance and holy 
deeds, and that from the swoon of death, 
her eyes fixed on the symbol of divine love 
which belonged to her beloved Tristan, she 
linally passed to the Paradise of the Blessed. 
1 have already encroached too much on 
tlie precious space of ' N. &: Q.' Perhaps 
in a subsequent paper I may be allowed to 
tell something of the history- and destruction 
of the interesting Isolde Tower that for 
centiu-ies was part of the ajicient walls of 
Dublin. U\ A. Henderson. 


It was in Brittany — not in the castle 
which the vanquished giant Beliagog had 
made for hira, but in tliat of Queen \ sonde 
of the White Hand^ — that Tristram died of 
his poisoned wound. But the fau- Ysonde 
(Isolde) of Cornwall arrived too late in answer 
to her lover's suraraons : — 
' •' Like a Mi'siii'd eliild. she solilni'd liursolf to siceii 
I upon liis lireasl. NeithiT did any disturb her 
jiiorc, for they knew li«>w fust her sluniher was... .. 
King Mark ^ent rtiul fttehed their bodies loConi- 

Wttll .To«ethcn'he Irtid them in a f»iii tunili within 

' a utuiyKjl, tall, hhiI rich in carvini work ; and h\k>\v 

I htj set ft statue of the fail' Vfttmde, wrouj?liit -kilfmlly 

', in her very likent-Ms as ?lie lived. And fmni Sir 

I TnHtmnrH gravi- there «rew aa eglantine, which 

{ twined aWit the Htfttue, a marvel iov all men In 

] Nee ; and though three times they cut it down, it 

iiia-w a«aiii, and ever wound itj" anna abuut the 

inu*ge of the fftir Ywnde (Inolde)." 

8«>e * 8ir Tristrem ' in Sir G. W. Cox's 

* Popular Romances of the Middle Agea,' 

1871, pp. 245-«7 : Wheeler's ' Noted Name^ 

in Fiction,' n.v. 'Isolde' and 'Tristram'; 

and Warton's * Historj- of English Poetry.' 

But in no instance is the plate of burial 

given. J. Hold EN MacMichaeu 

lleeiie, Streathani, S. W. 

Isolde was the wife of a fabtdous King 
Mark of Cornwall, the uncle of Triatau or 
Tristram. Their history is related by 
Thomas the Rhymer and njany others. 
According to Yonge, the original meaning 
of the name Tristram is said to have been 
" noise,*' " tumult " ; but from the influ- 
eivce of Latin upon Welsh (!), it carao to 
mean '* sad." In ' Morte d'Arthur ' it is 
explained as signifying "sorrowful birth/' 
and in said to have been given to Tristram 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vu. fkb. a. m 

by liis mother, who died almost as soon as 
she had brought him into the world. 

R. S. B. 

PooNAH Tainting (10 S. vii. 107). — Two 
well-remembered accessories of my golden 
age were a tubby little copy of * The Boy's 
Own Book,' inherited from an earlier gene- 
ration, and a smart, red-coated, gilt-edged 
volume which offered itself as ' The Girl's 
Own Book.' and was, compared with the 
other, *' OR moonlight unto sunlight, and 
as water unto wine." It was, however, of 
it that I thought when I saw L)k. Murray's 
question, for I believed that it conveyed 
the mystery of Poonah painting ; and, 
having obtained the loan of the book from 
a working nursery, I am glad to find that 
I was right. I have before me a copy of the 
fourteenth edition of ' The Girl's Own 
Book,' by Mrs. Child (author of ' The Mother's 
Book,' 'Frugal Housewife,' ' Mother's Story- 
Book,' &c.). wliich was published by William 
Tegg & Co., Cheapside, in 1848. The direc- 
tions for Poonah painting are set forth on 
pp. 208-9. I read :— 

"This style of iiaintiii}; i-o»mire.s nothing Imt care 

and neatness. The outline of Mhatcver you mtMi to 

l>aint is* cl^a^^•n with the |K)int of a needle on trans- 

iMirent imiuM-, and then cut out with shafp scissors. 

No twi» luirts of the bird, or flower, wliifh touch 

each olht-r, nuist Ik! cut on thesanie i»ieee of naper. 

Thus, on nni- l>it of transparent iiai>er, I cut the 

top and tH»t.ti>ni petal of a ro.sf; on anothtT piece I 

cut the leaves i>\ the two opposite sides, ite. Some 

care i« re«|uiri'd in arranginjt the theorems, so that 

no two parts, tiMiehinj? eacli other, slinll he used at 

the same time. It is a «o<kI plan to make a drawing 

on Ji piece of white i)ai>er, and mark all No. 1 ui)on 

the leaves you < an cut on the first tlieorem, without 

havin},' them meet at anyi)oint : No. 2 «»ii all you 

can cut in tlie same way on the second theoi-em,and 

so on. After all thejmrts are in re<ulines,s, lay your 

theorem uiton your drawing- pa] »er. take a stifl'hnish 

of bristles, rut like those use<l in velvet eohmrs, fill 

it witli the colour you want, and nut it on as dry as 

you p«issibly can, movinjj the brush round and i-ound 

in circles, gently, until the leaf is c<iloun.fl as deei> 

as you wisJi. \Vliere you wish to .shade, rub abniHli 

fillwl with tiie dark colour you want carefully round 

and iHMUid the spot you wish to »hadc. Petal after ' 

petal, leaf after leaf, is done in this way. until the 

peifect flower is formed. No talent for (Irawinjj: is ! 

neceM.siiry in this work ; for the fijjun; is tracctl' on ■ 

trans]iarcni pajier, and then the c«)lours are niblwd ' 

over tJie holes in the same maimer tliey paint canvass ' 

carpets. In the choice of colours " you must l)e ■ 

;;uidiHl by the pattern you copy. The lij;ht colour 

which forms llie j^roundwork is put on first, and the 

darker colours shade<l on afteritisiiuiledry. (Ireen 

leaves sliould be first made bright vellow; then done 

overM'ith lirijjht green; then shaded with indigo. 

A very brilliant set of colours in iKjwder have lieen I 

prejuHXHl for this khidof iwiinting ; if these l>eu»e<l. i 

tlieymust l)e very faithfully ground with a bit of 

Klrtss, or smooth ivory. If the colours Ik? lait on 

wet. they will look very badly. The truiqiinrt| 
paper can l>e prejiared in the following mumer."! 
Cover a sheet of letter-jiaper with spirits of tBrpefr 
tine, and let it dry in the air ; then varaidi one sdf 
' with coirttl varnisn ; when perfectly dry.taniit 
varnish the other side." 

: I hope the above description of Poomb- 

, painting method may satisfy Dr. Muui^ 

: but / should require something more hni 

I if I wished to practise the spurious art. Tkl 

' part about the paper is clear enough. M 

I to the brushes, I fancy I once posseenl 

some which I inherited with an old paint^ 

box. They were round, flat ended, ud 

perhaps from a quarter to half an inch it 

diameter. I think Dr. Murray postdttfl 

the vogue of Poonah painting by •bo* 

twenty years. It was not fetshionable ii 

1856. St. SwrrHEi. 

My recollection of Poonah painting m » 
boy is that it was a kind of stencilling 
Poonah paper was a sheet of some rathtf 
thick, semi-transparent substance. Out d 
this were cut the shapes of leaves, petals ol 
flowers, &c. The Poonah pai>er was luA 
on the paper to be omamentea, and cdoaf 
applied to the cut-out spaces with a stiff 
brush cut flat at the end. The aperturei 
were moved about till a perfect flower htd 
been formed. Sherborne. 

iSherlxn-ne House, Northleach. 

Pigot & Co.'s ' Directory ' for 1822-S 
! under Cheltenham has *' Stanton, Mrs.t 
I Indian i)oonah painter, 21, Bath Street." j 
' Henry John Beardshaw. 

I 27, NorthumWrland K<ift<l. .Sheffield. 

I Pictfres at Teddingtox (10 S. viu 

i 88, 136). — These pictures represent Sibyls. 

Their names have suffered somewhat in 

the jiroceas of restoration or in that of 

I transcription. " Silvia Samai " e\'identty 

I =: Sibylla Samia (the Samian Sibyl), "a 

I Kdifica " I conjecture to be SibvUa Delfic* 

(Delj^hica), the Sibyl of Delphi. (Have lett«n 

in " Samia " and *' Delfica/' and perhaps in 

some other names, been painted above th» 

lino, and thus led to error in copying?) 

" Silvia Europca " might be Sibylla Eubcac* 

(another name for the Sibyl of Cumielt 

unle.'«s Europea be here used to describe 

some Sibyl ordinarily known by anotlwf 

name (the Sibylla Cimmerica ?). " S. JEfr 

trea " is the Erythnean Sibyl. " S. Agrif- 

pina " I do not recognize. Is she SibyU* 

.Kgyptia (although this latter has been 

ideiitiOed with S. Persica) ? The PeraJMi. 

I'hrvgian, and Tiburtine Sibyls offer no 


The medallion picture representing t^ 

Fn*. 2^. lar ] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


' T ' uM clary belief that 

iiiing of Christ, 
i.jvi i.i ill.- .Ntbvls i>i variouflly 
tantais ('Inst.,' i. 6), qiiotinp: 
work of V'arro, eniunerates ten. 
ill -known representations of the 
art xnay be mentioned Michael 
I the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, 
in the church of S. Maria della 
le), and those in the marble 
if the Duomo at Sienna. 

Edwakd Bknst.v. 
College, Alx?ryHtwylli. 

tings, represent eight Sil>yl8, 
of locality attached to each of 
Id probably be (in the order of 
as followg : Samia. Delphica, 
CT^'thraea, .'17g^*ptia, Persica, Pkrygia 
y. and Tiburtina. 
WL S, G. Hamilton. 

R Tx THE United States : its 
(HI S. vii. 41).— 1 am glad that 
blunder in confusing Lincoln's 
Son Proclamation of lS(i3 with 
ath Amendment to the Constitn- 
United States adopted in 1865 
til such prompt correction from 
E8T MoROAX of Hartford and 
twoio of Cliicago. 

AuiEiiT Matthews. 


kos ( 10 S. vii. 8, 50).— Infoi-niation 

Vom slang dietionariee, Littr^, 

Bian friend enables* me to state 

lor tunt now belongfi t<ji what is 

] dig mal/aiteurs, that it is not a 

aown word» and that it actually 

in L'iMi. I al latluT than a live- 

' rtion i.s proved 

pr< M»* dt' cinq ballesy 

[ pi<rr dc cinq franco. 

_of the tenn i» not clear ; but 

- tliat it might come from the 

"ired from tun f (** Tun, a.m. 

le d<^partnment du Nord a 

aieu8£<, Littr^.) It is tnie 

money do not seem nearly 

lilt when M'e tintl that another 

\ for it in Frrmeh t» pldtre, we may 

BUpporto that the whiteness of 

plasttrr mn.'^t have suggested 

*TT is collrK^ting popular names 
rhapM the following li«t ni words 
*^\xi\. They all mean money 
I «lang ': Nerf dt la gu^nr^: 
hi^cnit : hraiA.^ • ffalclte 

(•* avoir de la galette " ; ** il n*a pas de 
galette"); os ; picaiUons ; pognon and 
poignon : radis ; roitd. Among theae hraiac 
and galette seem favourites. 

In conclusion, 1 will say that in older 
slang tune and tunehie were used for Bicetre 
(depot -de mendicity) ; that tuner meant to 
beg, and tuneur a beggar. But these are 
now marked as antiquated, and the sanip 
may bo said of tune and opil-dt-bcBuf in the 
sense of a five- franc piece. 

M. Hattltmoxt. 

*• <A'»V r/r iumf. Piece de cinij frftiiOH."* 
" Tftiiiir. P'wQv do t'iin| fmtiew rUt»» Targot de» 
voleurs. On flit aiisui Tftuttc fit ehttj halhn. 

See ' Dictionnairo de la Languc Verte,' by 
Alfred Delva\u Pp. 316 and 439 (Paris, 
C. Marpin et E. Flammarion, 1883). 

T. F. D. 

The ' Dictionnairo d'Argot, Fin de Siecle,' 
by Charles Virmaitre (Paris, 1894), Htate« 
that tuner, to beg, i« apocope of importunerr 
and that the word for the Prison de la Force, 
demoli^hetl in 1850, was txtnohcj not tune ; 
other dictionaries give tiiTie<:oTi. It is pos- 
sible that the word for a five-franc piece ia 
unconnected with the last two words. 
On n. 51, supra, read broquv for hcoguf. 

H. P. L. 

May T add a few words to the list already 
given ? — 

PifiU' frnf. iMiiinct jiiiine, 
[lenlrix, at'ntt4|iu*, slgle, i^igiie. 
/'iV(Y' iFnvifHt^ HOtiiietle. 
Pit-cr tie .•>/>"., KoiutltK.'he. 
Pircf th. tfr,, lAniiittint'. 
Pif'Or dr. t/v.t Tioint. 

Pif-cr dt 5f^<"., nlrtnchiiweiixe. petite iiistole, 
Pit-ct t/* Jf^/'., invalide, laM«|Ue. 
Pirn- df llfc.f k^le. 

Pi^cf tlr .><*., hrti<|uc, dirliit};, ]K'tftrd, rotiir. 
CentimtA, bidoohes. 

Edward L.\tham. 

Thune is not in any way connected with 
Lat. tliunnus, a tunny fish, as H. P. L. 
opin»^. In Victor Hugo's 'Notre Dame 
de Pari«,' bk. ii. chap, vi., it is stated that 
the Roi de Thimes (Tunifi) was the recognized 
head or king of the Pari.nian beggars, in 
company with the Duke of Egj^pt and the 
KniperoV of Galilee, who held sway respect- 
ively over the gipsies and the Jews : hence, 
in the language of French thieves, thune, 
apparently derived from "Tunis" signifies 
*' pieces," or money in general. Thnnc de 
cinq bailee, or simply Thunc, means a five- 
franc piece, as thune d€ cnmclottc does 
spurious money. Bilit, from billon, base coin, 
is another rogues' word for money ; whUe 
hUlcmont is their denomination for \ja^eif 

l«)Utijii, iiAii, u'il de 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. fo.1^ im. 

money. See ' Argot and Slang/ by Albert 
Barrere (London, Whittaker, 1^89). 

N. W. Hill. 


Ward Surname (10 S. vii. 109).— Wlmt- 
evet be the origin of the Manx form» it is 
quite certain tliatj in rnost instances, Ward 
is native English. Bardaley rightly poiiits 
out that the English name han really tti'o 
ctriginij, cloaely related. Tluw in 1273 we 
roeet with *' Thomas le Warde," i.c- Thomas 
the guard » warder, or guardian* from the 
A.-S. u^ard^ a warder, ao ancient that it 
occurs in * Beowulf.' And secondly » also 
in 1273, we meet ^■itli a name of local or 
official origin, in the case of " Walter de la 
Warde," i.e. Walter of the guard, from the 
A.-S. wTFard, fem. sb. (genitive w^ordeJt a 
ward, a watch ^ a guard. There can be no 
doubt a8 to theee resultB. 

Walter W. Skeat, 

S«e 9 S. iii. 8, 72. The Gaelic Ward had 
nothing to do with tlie English Ward. Tli© 
latter cornea from two sources. In most 
casea it is an official name, having the mean- 
ing of watchman or guard. Sometimes^ 
however, it ia local, meaning at the place 
of the ward or guard. In early documents 
these two fonns are kept distinct, the official 
name appearing as ** le Ward,^* the terri- 
torial name as '* de la Ward." 

Jas. Platt, Juh, 

This nauie, though scattered over a 
large part of England, id found in greatest 
number in Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, and 
in the Midland counties, especially those 
cf Leicester and Rutland, Notts, Derby, 
Stafford, Warwick, Xorthampton, Cam- 
bridge, i&c. It is infrequent in the four 
nortTiernmost counties of England, and is 
similarly absent or relati%-ely imconunon in 
the couiitiea to the south of a line joining 
Bristol and London. The name signlfiea a 
ward or keeper, and we find it with this 
meaning in such compound names as Wood- 
ward, tho old title of a forest-keeper :* 
Milward, tJio keeper of a niill (probably 
t$ome manorial or monastic mill), and Mil- 
man, tho same : Kenward* the dog-keeper, 
or more probably Kineward, the cow-keeper. 
Aylward, the alo-keei^er ; Uurward, the 
porter or door-keeper ; Hayward, the keeper 
of a common herd of cattle belonging to 
oomo town ; while the extinct Dove ward 

* ''^An otlioei* that walks with a forest-biU, tiiid 
takes cognizance of all offentwu cjonunitted, at the 
next nwaiii-iiiote or oourt of attachnieula " (Bailey's 
-Diet.'). * 

was probably a keeper of the uhdikqI 

The births, deaths, and motriagil 
persons bearing the surname of 
registered in one vear, viz., between 1 
1837, and 30 June, 1838, both indi 
were 985 births, 811 deatlis, and 522 

In 1852 there were 187 traders beannff 
surname of Ward, according to the ' " ^ 
Directorjr' ' of that date. 

Alfred SvDXEr LEWHi 

Lihrarj-, Conatitutioiiftl Club. 

My grancbn other's maiden name (on 1 
maternal side) w^ Ward, She belon| 
to the West Riding of Yorksliire brtti 
The Wards have intermarried with my « 
family for generations ; indeed, my 
sister's present name is Ward. Like 
C. 8. JERKAii, I have always been giji^ 
understand it represented " Guard,' 
this impre»t*ion finds confirmation in 
pages of ' The Norman People,' an a^ 
mous work published, in 1874, by H.' 
King & Co., and dedicated by the rt* 
'* To the memorv of Percy, Viacomit Sttr" 
ford." Therein'(pp. 440-1) we read ;- 

*' W'H,nh iritm (trv- of (iardc, near Cor>*it, 
FraiK-e. Ing^lram dc W&rda occurs in ?ii 
li:W, and Kft]]ili de Uftr, in Norfolk t. 1 
(Bkmietield, ix. -1). Jolm de Wattla oE 
iiteui^ 1 191 ( R.C:R. ). In 12S6 and 1290 St 
^Vart.' and Tlmmaw (k- Wnre are meutii)ne*l«* 
iug H«fs th.fTU i;i>uL, 35t)-3eOV From the k* 
(kw^ijided ihu UivdH of Tottington, r»c»™^ 
ftud DudlUrjrioii, of whom John Want |i-Hb " 
tiiry) acijiiirt*fl Kirkby - Beadon. And frtwi 
Uneally de»teii(lefl Hit* first Lord \\ acd *lKl 
Earip of Dudley. 

" Thu Viwcimnt.H Bftnaot descend from ■ 
suftt^cl in York nil irt. where Robert de k liar 
wntunO ffftvy Ian (Ik tn !S*jlby Abbey (Bnrtflm, . 
ElM)r./ a^), aft*?i- which, Simon Warde m 
Knitiht'H fee in Vork, llftS (Lib. Nijj.). mod^ 
William hiH hoii, gave lands to Laliolt rm 
\ihifi,, \m). Roln^rt de la Wards w»» sumnj 
by writ, iiH « >>ttt'on, 1299. A branch ^'t^ 
Iielftiid /, KU/Alwth, from which descend J 
ViMOinnitw Banjjjor.'* „ ^ 

Fair Park, Kxcter. 

Names (10 S. vi. 381 ; vii. 36, IJ 
think Mr. PENsrvr's suggeetion {ai^t^ ^■ 
that iiA^ky is a corruption of tizzy^ ^''^"\5 
Fr. teuton, a very good one. though 1 dW 
if it can be authenticated. I have vm 
heard the derivation of the word discsP^ 
but from my knowledge of South i 
I am disposed to connect it with tie* 
fc^fc or liefc, a mite, of the family i 
(lkodidi£)> diminutives, it -xnftj 1 

[Trk.ri. inoTi NOTES AND QUERIES. 


M.iM Ml lAuLi II uiMi Ml ♦'aue I edition (1889) refers to the statue of George 

who liave visit<>(l the 111. in Cocksimr Street, wliich I believe 

>f the colony will be familiar { .stands exewitly at the junction of that street 

pest, the cAttle tick, an ' witli Pall Mail.* 
Ill of shiny leaden hue — ; Haydn also mentions a statue of George I. 
ierabiy Itiij. ; rlmn the more circular in GroRvenor Square. This was much 
tick — wli*. h -jHvdily attaches itself ' rautilated on 11 March. 1727. A contem- 
porary account records the following injuries 
— '* the left leg torn off, the sword and 
truncheon broken off, the neck hacked as 
if designed to cut off the head, and a libel 
left at the place.'* Apparently the statue 
was eventually taken away, for Tiinbs, 
WTiting in 1855 (* Curiosities of London '), 
says : '" The stone |>edei9tal in the centra 
I [of the square] once bore an ecjuestrian 

( skins of horses and cattle when they 
pose unon the veldt, and frequently 
j the udders of cows by eating away 
i)r more of the teats. In size and 
apjHMirance it offers a certain resem- 
> to the stnall threepenny bit, to which 
I'ely imagination of the native Boer 
I can well believe, have compared it, 
Ihe liability of the com to get easily 

away from the larger to wns^— where 

by the by, are alone procurable. 

of course, only my conjecture ; but 

some .\frican correspondent of 

).' will be able to throw further 

on a matter that is of more than local 

X. W KTrr.. 

R. tJnAJS'T (1<> .>. vn. ^?<).- boine 

of the Rev. Kichard Grant will bo 

' "*»■ - MarA* C. Lnpton's * History 

»f Blackbourtou.' printed by Archjx'ological Society, 8vo, 

1903» pp. 101-3. 

W. D. Macbay. 

History of Self-defence ' (10 S. 

^'- 'lit the author of this book 

i. L' Estrange, who flouriiihed 

^te- — ,'. riod, and was also a Carolist ? 

in the first edition of * An Account 

Srowtii of Knaverj' ' {London, 1678), 

UMia " Pr*-sident '' in the sense of 

and this doee not seem to have 

common imstake in English books 


of the * Account * he speaks of 

ptng the First Painter," On 

How many Reverend 

uyson'd in Peter-House ? 

M — 

irr jpoii tJxf HlnUiry of their Spiriting 

PcMwitM (if HoDcmr for Shivoi; their 

or four w»ore (;ejiilernt?fj to tho 

does not till his book 
Imat ogicnl arjrnnunfy as one 

' The History of Self 1 

EDWAJiu ;> SON. 

MB (}eoroi:» (10 S. vii. 66). 
^ \t < Ht. he Buid that nU the 
LvN.v are ignored 

id its being often hard to obtain as statue of George L" Haydn would appear, 

therefore, to be somewhat out of date in 
recording it amongst " the chief imbJic 
statues of London " in 1889. His reference 
to a statue of George HI. at Somerset House 
is, I believe, perfectly correct. 

With respect to tlic statue of George I\'. 
in Trafalgar Stpiare, 1 may say that a 
trenchant and sarcastic notice thereon 
ajipeared in T/w Athencfum of 13 Jan., 1844 ; 
but in The IfltuitmUd London Neuys of 
24 Feb., 1844, a favuorable notice was 
given, accompanied by an engraving of tho 

There is, I believe, a statue of George IL 
in Golden Square. Dickens refers to it in 
the second chapter of ' Nicholas Xickleby * 
as "the mournful statue, the guardian 
genius of a little wilderness of shrubs, in 
the centre of the square." Another statue 
nf this monarfh ia in the Grand Square at 
Greenwcii Hospital. It represents the king 
in the garb of a Roman Emi^eror, and on the 
pedestal is a Latiti inscription, lix 174S a 
statue of George L wsa set up in the centre 
of Leicester Square. Having suffered badly 
from neglect and mutilation, it eventually 
(in 1874) ga\e i)lace to tho statue of Shake- 
speare which now graces the site. 

John T. P.\ce. 
Ijong ItohiiiKton, Wiuwickshire. 

With reference to Mr. T.ynn's observation 
that " every statue sliotild have a name," 
I may relate that some time ago 1 waa 
passing (and of course Inspecting) tlie very 
fine statue outside the Hoases of Parliament, 
when some strangers asked whose statue 
that was. I said, " Richard I./' and passed 
on. Then I thought. Am I mistaken, or 
cannot those people read ? So I retuined. 

* Alt cMiifravinu' of lliis ntntne with an Hi«-«junt of 
its inaugunit iun, ni»i»e«rtHl iti The Mtn-or uf 'JH Au^., 


NOTES AND Q^^RIES. [i« s. ^ffi ^'^ 

went carefully round the statue, and, 
greatly to my astonishment, found there was 
no inscription. 

This is no worse than the Oxford colleges, 
which are all without name, and tens of 
thousands of visitors have to be continually 
asking, " What is this college ? " In reply 
I have been told that it would vulgarize 
them to put up names. I can only say 
that if all the talent at Oxford can find no 
way of putting up the names artistically, 
theirs is a sorry case. T should suggest plain 
gold and plain letters, not any artistically 
involved '* black letter," which takes so 
long to make out that one gives it up. 

Ralph Thomas. 

West Indian Military Records (10 S. 
vi. 428, 476; vii. 14, 78).— The following 
extract from The Broad Arrow of 26 Jcuiuary 
may be of interest (' Promotion I^ospects,' 
p. 94) :— 

"Among the officers who suffer peculiar hard- 
sliips by reason of these unfortunate reductions 
may be instanced those of the West India Refd- 
ments, who have endured more of the 'ur« and 
downs,' the expansions and reductions of military 
life than j>erhap8 any other coqjs. Students of 
military history do not need to be reminded of the 
terrible mortality among the British troops serving 
in the West Indies at the end of the eighteenth 
century. In consequence of this excessive death 
rate, which shocked even the Ministers of those 
days, no fewer than twelve West India Regiments 
were raised about 1800, of which however, more 
JfaMavo, four were reduced two years later, while 
the remainder served on until tlie final fall of the 
first Naitoleon. Within the next ten years six more 
of the West India Reiriments were disl^nded. but 
in 1840 one was added to the two which sur\'ived, 
and two more were raised some fifteen or sixteen 
years later. All these three had however dis- 
api>eared from the 'Army List' by 1870, and for the 
next eighteen years the two regiinenta which re- 
mained were given what no doiibt they needed in 
common with the Army of to-day— a rest. Mr. 
Brotlrick added a third battalion to what had by 
now come to be called the 1st and 2nd Battalions of 
the West India Regiment, but Mr. Bi-odrick's 
bantling was strangled almost at its birth." 

Herbert Southam. 
The 9th. 10th, llth, and 12th West India 
Regunents were raised in 1799, and dis- 
banded in 1803. Vide 'Army Lists' for 
those years. C. J. Durand, Col. 

(Grange Villa, (iuemsey. 

Shakespeare's Residence New Place 
(10 S. ^-ii. 66). — Mr. Edoctjmbe is correct in 
tliinking that some portions of Shakespeare's 
final residence remain. They consist of 
parts of the foundations, brought to light 
some time ago when a mass of dibria was 
removed from the site. Carefully guarded 
by wire screens from the too-zealous souvenir 

grabber, they may now be aeea b 
i5tratford-on-Avon pilgrim. Mb. Edo 
should consult J. O. Halliweirs * Aow 
New Place,' 1864, folio, and Bellew'i 
on the same subject, ' Shakespeare*^ 
at New Place,' 1863, 8vo ; and I won 
that Mr. W. C. Hazlitt's * Life of 
speare ' also deserves " universal stud 

Wm. Jaoo 

Queen Victoria op Spain : Nasi 
{10 S. vii. 30, 76).— Is Mr. Grisselli 
calling the Queen-Consort of His C 
Majesty " Her Catholic Majesty " ? 
rate, he is wrong in sajong that " wl 
was conditionally baptized " she toe 
the ' additional name of Mary. Sb 
the additional name of Christina i 
honour of the Queen Mother. Her fu 
now is Victoria Eugenia Julia Ena 
Christina, but the * Almanack de 
drops " Julia Ena Maria.** 

John B. W'ainewr 

"Churchyard Cough*' (10 S. vi 
This expression has long been familial 
I inherited a cough of this descriptic 
my venerable mother, who died tl 
before last, at the age of eighty-fiv 
was subject to a simileu* cough all ] 
I remember the use of the term part 
well. As a young man I lodged : 
with an old lady in Camberwell. 
when I had been " barking " rathe 
than usual, 1 said, in reply to her 
of sympathy, " Oh ! I shall be a 
when I get rid of this cough." 
she said, gravely and with emphasii 
will never lose that cliurchyard c* 
this world." As a matter of absoli 
that surmise (expressed nearly fo 
years ago) has, so far, proved corre< 
still suffer from the same weaknee 
name only has changed. My doctoi 
" gout in the throat." Harry 1 

Fair Park, Kxeter. 

This expression is by no means d] 
either in Northamptonshire or W^arw 
It is still a hackneyed expression, a 
tinually used by all classes of soci< 
cerning persons who have bad colds 
panied by a harsh, barking cough, 
known the term all my life, and bes 
two counties named I have met w 
London and Essex — in fact, it seen 
quite cosmopolitan. John T. 

Long Itehington, Warwickshire. 

This term has been applied to tb 
cough which ends with a rattle of 

t '• 



It \» heard at the final Btage of 
y consim^iJtion. IMediculus. 

r.D ' Ston-b Folk - lore : ** NroHT- 
(10 S. ^^i- 2li:i. — The fairies plat the 
I of horwet*, and make elf-locks in ordt*r 
l\>i)?htley in his * Fair> Mythology,' 
[)g of the Frencli fairiea, says : — 
ly liiv Uiiul of nioimtiii;; ainl jtiUloping the 
* Ihvit MMt in on tlie neck, and they tie 
■ kicks of the mnue to form stimiiMS." 
I in * Romeo and Juliet ' says : — 
Thi.s iM that ver^' Mftb, 
umm"> of liorxo* in Xhv iji';;lit ; 
i-lf Itrt^kw in loiil sltittj*li linirn, 
uifrttijilfil, iMiicli misfortuae bode*. 
iJtto »peak^ of Mab as a hag, wlio is 
is the nightmare, 
nitfht-hag, of wlioni MUton apeaks 
aoise Lost," is not one that ride« 
She is a spirit, ftnpposed to hurt 
a, and mor ^"x identical witJi Lilith. 
; the ri' has l»oen confounded 

brr wit I <n. In popular tra- 

the faLTicis arc jiunietimw* confounded 
liUlu-a or devik, H Yardlky, 

.1 contrihution to tlit» folk-lore of night- 
Pi may mention that 1 u.>i*ed to hear 
llT\y father of a >votjian h\ Hamiwhire 
Iras acou8tome<l to han^ a acvthe over 
llildren's bed. \Vli*r) a^ked the reason, 
r]ilird. " lt'& to kf^^p the hags from 
[llic cliildor by night jv." H. f. W. 

ir.noBoiroH Whkkls (10 S. vi. 3H6. 

-I tlnnk J can exnlain the point in 

Ml. A *' inalbrnuk ' i>r ** nmlhniugh " 

veliiele formerly in \ojrue in Kranrc 

jm\ of stage tutaeh. named, I supporte, 

|»our of the vt«'t<*r of Hlenlieim. Jt ia 

ription of carriftm', no doubt, that 

ill mind in ihr veraeH quoted by 

ILN. I^rous*-"*!' eite«i the following 

jldhon as dp^rriptiv*' of the " mal- 

^' utility : " Kxpediteurs, de^tina- 

Jtmtt le motwle rcviendra a. la Malbrouk, 

Unit at* he ; »'il Jaui, on desertera la 

t»<ivr." N. W. Hill. 


^XicKV WfHin HnrRt: ; H^iiuiNOAV 
[^10 S. vii. lOfi).— In my * Place- 
I C*inbridg<"s*hire ' (1901) I explain 
rth ihf origin of names ending in 
Ic^nruit rept^at it all here. Briefly, 
ck to A.-^. -in/fa-rfj, where -hKjri 
idural, and ffj in thn Mercian 
iMtand, or ]tliu*e irith ntreamn 
it. The -«r-, an in dark- 
to A.-S. -rr*. Moreover 
fg i.n eoiHtantiy iijH;lt a-j 

heye, kaiCy &c., by Norman scribes who were 
uncertain of their initial sounds. Hence the 
thirtetuith-century Hamujhfyv eoni^ out 
as A.-S. Herin^a-Pg^ or " island of the 
Herings." Hering oeoiirs as a personal 
name in the ' .A.-S. Ohronicle,' Laud MS., 
under the date 003. Hence many English 
place-names, such as Han-ingtou, Harring- 
worth, Harringay, Herringfleet, Herrington, 
from the gen. pL Herin(ja : and Hcrringawell, 
from the gen. sing. Htrimjvs. Observe that 
the name Hering actually ^oe^ back 
to tlie sixth century ; for Hering in the 
' Chronicle ' was grown n]> in 603. 

\\'alter W. Skeat. 

Mr. M.\rriott in hi« most intt^resting 
note refertt to the identification of Homsev 
Wood Houfte in 1784 with "The Horns.'' 
The authority for this, as mentit>ned by 
Mr. Wroth (' London Pleasure {lardens,* 
]). 109), is * Low-Life ; or, One Half of the 
World Knows not how the Othei* Half Live,' 
p. 46. Here ia the passage : — 

Hui K IX. 
from Eight till Nine o'clack ihi >)uiulav morning. 
The Ki'eAt IU)om at 'Thr* Huru:*' at Homsey- 
^VotK^, <T(>w<k-<l, with Mi'ti. W'unieii, ainl Cliildren, \ 
eatiiiji Rolls and Butter, an*! driukiuK of Tea, at an ■ 
extraviijianl i'rioe. 

There was a " Breakfasting-Hutt " near 
Stidler'a Wells, but thi.s was rather an early 
hour for bo distant a resort. 

Mazzinghi (' History and Oiude to London,* 

17t>2) provides a fiu'tlier variation of the 

name, identifying it. in the account '* Of 

the moat frcfjuented Tea Gardens," as 

* Horn.sev House." 

'The Picture of London,' 1803 (p. 369), 
gives its full title and a favourable notice : — 
" Honiaey • Wood - Hi»u-i<' ami 'IVri ( ianlcns. — A 
nH»st int^cifstijig |»lrter, t<-lclii)itf<l tor the |wioulijir 
ln-HUtyof the W(kkI a*ljotnini:. A«* no etji+'jistj has 
lii'vii s|N(ired to retldor iJiif^ i\x\ cle;jrtllt hoUW of 
iic<niiiii»oflivLinn, it standK rtrst on tbc list of place* 
of this flertcriiitioii. I)inni>i«« i»n)\idiil for large 
]»ml **.'**. " 

The first work we turn to on matters 
relating to suburban London, * The Ambu- 
late »r,' doe.s not identify the house by name. 
I Tho fii-nt edition. 1774, says (p. 1)4) : — 
I " Alxjnt *i milu neuter this is a oopiiiet* of yi>un;r 
titx-s^ tallied Hornsey \Vi>oil, at the untruni^ of 
which is ft iiuhlio-hoUHo. to \vhi<'h irieut niinilK-rs uf i 
' jn'i^ons rertort from the Cilv. This house, ll>ein|el 
' -itiiAtt'd on the t4)i» of n, hill. hOoi*<1« a delighthiT 
! l»m«i>c<jtof the nfig!il>>uriM',; countt-y." 

The eighth edition, 1790, reprints thi.<, with 

' a slight alteration more ch^sely indicating 

its position as '* in the footway fr<."»m this 

village [Homseyj to Highbuiy I3arn at 

j Lslington." Alkck ABB.KUJh.^\&« 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vu f«iu a 

"I\jNGSLEY*s Stand " (10 S. vii. 109).— 
This name is derived from the heroic conduct 
of Kingsley and his regiment at, and imme- 
diately after, the battle of Minden. Par- 
ticulars are given in Cannon's * Historical 
Record of the 20th Regiment,' pp. 16-19, 
where it is stated that 

** the severe loss siwteinetl by the reKiment at the 
battle occasioned Prince Ferdinand to give direc- 
tions, on the 2ikI of August, in genei'al orders, that 
* Kingsley 's Regiment of the British line, from its 
severe loss, will cease to do duty'; but the sur- 
viving officers and 8t)ldier8 were animated with 7^al 
for the service, and a jiraise worthy enprtt de corjM 
led them to solicit to l>e jjerniitted to take every 
<luty which came to their turn, and <m the 4th ot 
August, it was stated in general orders, ' Kingsley 's 
Regiment, at its own retjuest, will i-esumcits ix)rtion 
of duty in the line.' " 

Kingsley was colonel of the regiment from 
1756 to 1769. His portrait was painted by 
Reynolds. The regiment is now the Lan- 
cashire FusiUers. W. S. 

I have always understood this expression 
to refer to the stand that Col. Kingsley 
made to keep his regiment in the fighting 
line after tlieir distinguished services at the 
battle of Minden. The old 20th Regiment 
has now become the Ist BattaUon of the Lan- 
casliire Fusiliers ; but when a separate entity 
its territorial title was that of the East 
Devon Regiment of Foot, and their nick- 
name that of tlie " Minden Boys." I have 
notes of three books relating to this regi- 
ment, viz., the official ' Historical Record of 
the 20tli or East Devonshire Regiment, 
1688-1848,' published by Parker in 1848; 
Lieut. Barlow's ' Ordera, Memoirs, &c., 
connected witli the 20th Regiment,' pub- 
lished in 1868 ; and ' Tlie History of the 
20th Regmient,' by Lieut, and Quarter- 
master Smyth, published by Simpkin in 
1889. I cannot say at tlie moment whether 
any one of these refers especially to the 
expression at the head of this reply. 

G. Yarrow Baldock. 

For a description of tlie feats wliich gained 
the title of " Kingsley's Stand " see the 
Hon. J. W. Fortescue's ' History of the 
British Army,' 1899, vol. ii. pp. 485-97. 

J. HoLDEX MacMichael. 

Authors op Quotations Wanted (10 S. 
vii. 49). — Li "Timidi nunquam statuerunt 
tropa?um " there is no need to substitute 
statuere for statuerunt^ so as to make the words 
part of a hexameter. The Latin is the 
translation given in Erasmus's *Adagia' 
of a Greek proverb quoted by Plato in his 
* Critias ' (108c, 'AAXa yap a^v/xov^rcs avBp€i 
oviroi Tpovaiov fbn^oi'). See p. 691, col. 2, 

of J. J. Grjnaeus's ed. of the *i 
(1629), under the main heading * Tin 

Erasmus, it will be seen, before 
Plato's words, gives the quotation 

*AA.X' oi -yap a^v/xovKTCS dvSpt^ ovrt 

Tpoiraiof ioTT^o'avTO. 

At enim tro)ih»;um nobile haud vnquam ' 

Statuere iMuidi, 
adding " Suidas ex Eupolide citatJ 
attribution to Eupohs is an error due 
fact that in the early editions of S 
lexicon two entries have been run in 
See Gaisford's ed. of Suidas, vol. i. cols. 
The words, even in the form prir 
Erasmus, are not a metrical success. 
Edwabd Ben 

[Mr. R. PiERi'oiXT also refers to Ei 

Anagrams on Pius X. (10 S. i. 146, : 
The words *' losephus Cardinalis Sart 
official title of the Pope regnant bef 
election, yield the following anagrams 
are not out of place in the present 8 
France. It may be that Mr. J. B. \ 
WRIGHT, in whose reply '* men " ough 
man, has seen others even more h. pro] 

1. Ruinas feeisti ! Solda oras ! (Thou haf 
ruins : thou l)eggest for full nay ! These woi 
also mean "Tliy prayer is. Mend them r 
ruins, from the Low Latin verb *oldare—t 

'J. Stas Francis e uia doloris. (Thou stani 
fi*om the road to sorrow, for the Francs.) 

.3. Ast Francis es doloris uia. (But thou ai 
of grief for Frenchmen. ) 

4. Is lesus al[i]t Francos radia (This 
nourishes the Fi-ench with a flash of light.) 

."5. Francise suis sat doloris. (Enough grief 
people in France.) 

6. Eius dolor a Francis satis. (His grief fi 
Frenchmen is sufficient. ) 

7. Salute Francos sine radiis. (I greet I 
men without rods.) 

Edward S. Dodos 

" Shadow - catcher " = PHorooBi 

(10 S. vii. 67). — A few years ago a j 

grapher — named Cooper, if I remt 

rightly — had premises on the east si 

King William Street, London Bridge 

used to advertise by means of han 

distributed outside his place of buf 

These announcements were always hea* 

Of those for whom we fond emotions drarii 

Secure the shadow, cro the subetanoe iierirf 

F. A. Russs 

I remember that forty years ago il 
considered " funny " to call photogn 
" shadow-smashers " and " physog-mal 
** Shadow-catchers " seems mi imfwovfl 
The most-used term, however, wai * 
ness-takers." Tbdos. RatouI 


10 8. vii. M V. ^s iwTO li^OTES AND QUERIES. 


Sonnets by Ai-ftieo akd Frkdkbick 
' Tknnyson (10 S, vii« 89).— Alfrt<i Tenny- 
snrits sonnet ** Me my own Fat^ to lasting 
HoiTow cloometh." was reproduced in 'Alfred 
ord Tennyson: » Memoir bj* Iiia Son/ 
1897 » vol. i. p. 65. It is not ineJnded in any 
the anthorizetl editions of Tennyson's 
ollected works. It was first privately 
^printed by K. H- Shepherd in ' The New 
Pimon and t ho Poets, with other Omitted 
?oeniR/ 1870, p. 0. 
I atn sorry that I cannot j^ive any infor- 
tion about Frederick Tennj^son'*! sonnet. 
H. A. Potts. 

AWred Tennyson's sonnet wax re]nib- 

-ghc<l in * Alfred. Lord Tennyson ' (vol. i. 

i. 67 >, imder the title of * Lasting Sorrow.' 

It may possibly ako be found in the * 8up- 

jresseti Poems' of Tetmyson by Mr- J. C. 

thomson, of Wimbledon, the editor of a 

jibliography of Tennyson/ as this gentle- 

claims to have included all the un- 

cted poems prior to 1862. 




ftMAtffrs /imjri" of t^hutiid'iOH; /*rp»>»''>«, «Ju/ lIo»*r- 

hJ*l UW./'. By W. <:uniry BrnliAiii. (CaHs*eU 

I * Co.1 

, ifiUTi.v volume of Iwelvr limiilrcd and <Hld juiiics 
* liwfi iRMUtil hv Mc!*«r*. C.»—»n iit»d»T tli»^ ftlnixe 
Je. Tlu* plan o\ the u'*.i 'hat aniltitious. 

I ii rofifftin* Tint nn)v a ! tioci <»( j^fntrftl 

ptii ' ' - of Lfttiii 

5\i 'in <i»f<'k, 

■ Im'ii, as if 

Ki» wet* it«-»l . there i-* 
Everi »"» <*xt<' • And HUM- 
•*- .'1 -' l-v 

I JiiM utiUMtakiiit: t/M» mnnh. Thf <j'i"' 

i that the 
. iMir twn 

khiili III' Kill "I til* \nnv'* 'Tiidition nf 

f....<i (li.\-..t..! f iH.rMV.M'lr. [■< tllf lt«Mt Nrttif*- 

rxiurHP, it 
t ytr^ivcih, 

-.1 Kiiy. 
1 :« noun"*" . 

. work in 

tvennr. Tims "A fiHjl's IhiU. ib snon shot " is j^iveir 
fn»m Herbert ; Init Heywofxl has the Kiiinr wm-tls. 
A still utirlier instanee is "Sottes t>olt is «oiie 
i-Hcohte" in the * ProverhK of Alfred,' nn jmhlinhed 
lx>th byWripht and Halliwell in 'R<»li<iuiiv AntiiMui.** 
mid the Kftily KuulJKh Text Scxiety: while "W ini- 
menneH l)olt is snne sehote " a|>|ioar» in * Sir Bene#t 
of Hamtoun/ also isMiefl by the E.E.T.S. "A 
hiirnt child tire drtHltlr' is given from Hey wood, 
with n reference t<t Chaucer ; nnt 

Brend chJlfl furdretUh. 
Qnoth Hendynn, 
is animi^ thv iirm-frlw uf Hcndynjr |iiintfd iti 
Wright (ind Halliwell. " If the mountjini will not 
rnmotoMahojiiet, Mulioniet williciitothe niountjvin," 
is aB»igtve<l to Hav'^; oolleetioii ; Imt B^con has it in 
l*>Hfty xii. on ' Boldne*»*,' Many other iiistJinees 
t^Jida be given. 

AnjoHK ' Househf>ld Word**' " Tl»e Keimhlif of 
Ijotters" in yiven to lioklHmith; hnt Kieldinn, in 
*Tom Jones/ hk. xiv. cha^». i., hud iiHed it before 
him. " B<vg and ^Migpage' in (|uoted from Richaid 
Huloet's •AbeeediinuiiJ Anjilico ■ Lntinntn pn* 
Tyrunoulis/ l.Vij2 ; hut earlier inNtanoe« rniiv t>e 
found in Beniers'stmn»*lAtion of Fnussart, riuhli;4hL-<i' 

in \m:y. 

Still, if the work does not satisfy everybody. 

it will l>e nuieh usefl, as the index in lonn mid 

fiinniiif/hain riHii. MiiHitml luMfifufe : iiinnlmthnvti 

Atrk'HtltHflrni Stwi'tfl TttiU'^rfiott^ No. 7. (VN'nl- 

Hj»n, printed for suliscnVters only.) 

Mit. ,1. A. CoHHiN'* ij;ives an H'^eourit of whiit nmst 

hrtve U*en a ver>' interestinjt exeurnlon. The firwt 

tiltice nt which the jtarty »toi»]»e<l was \ViH»ttor» 

VX'urwen, but on the way they i««*«!«etl near Henley, 

11 hill on which formerly »t<x»«l one of the Montfort 

i-nstlen. which it in thoujcht Wft-s de«troye<l Home 

time dxirinj; the VVar^ nf rhf F*i»#'s. It ih, however, 

Hlnioflt eeitftin thot the hill hnd been enlrenohed 

and fortitie*! in lUys lonj: Itefore (*ikfftlcfi. tm wi* 

understrtml the term, were built in this eonntry. 

The little church on the low«»r imrt of the hill i» of 

the twelfth teiiturx. It is sujj^evtwl timl it nlstt 

WHH u work of the Montforts, Thy «trectj« of 

Herdey itre wide, |ierhftiti^ for the wke of boldinfc 

I markets. The fotn*te*.'nth • eentury r*ros» muHt, w* 

' bite an the l»e»:»nniit? < if the century, Ivive lieen 

ti ntitew«»rtby tibji-i-t. Sinee then it htks i>een 8h&nie- 

fully nuitiliitiNl. Now the bend ha«i entirely pone r 

>^nd h»%d it not Iwen for the intervention of thiv 

v;, ...i.. .Iiani Institute, the slmft hIho would Imvo- 


iH a tifteentheentur)' iiulpJt at Woottotn 
W arwun, which, an we .«ee it in the rnfjTft^ inj: that 
I is fumiHluHl. mutit have sutferei! little ibinuix'e in^ 
, the course of four eenturiew. Ctinghton Court wa« 
vi.Miteii The nu>ftt has Uhii tilled u}!, and mueh«leAt« hft\f*c vfff peri-etrrtt^-d !tl»cHtf i7>*1 : but 
the tow«' ■ ,.i 

one of tli ! 

;The i3 -- - -.,..:. : 

Wnlker. I* an rl«i In irate ]in|»er. the j'esi t 

biltonr. The cotirt*i of M^mr of Tb*"biii I 

••'('oViMV of !*tii I " • ' - 
layii. Tlumeb i ., 

iintt-<, they had \» , . , j* 

t ver) feM perMm* were --Liiry U» Ijt ml of them. 
Ir. John Huiniihivy* Iwm a liajK>r on 'Tho 
nithinKt<in*i of Hindlip and The (tHnpoMTlfr Plot.*. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vii. fbb.b, 

It contains an engraving of Hindlip Hall, whic4i 
was evidently a highly picturostiue Tudor mansion. 
It was imllerl down long ago. We are told by a 
writer wlio had seen it that it contained many 
hiding-i>lace8 and secret iiassageH. 

Mr. R. H. Murray's ijajwr on the evolution of 
church chancels will be found useful in many 
resiiects. The engravings showing the arrangement 
of the chancels during the Puritan ascendancy are 
important contributions to knowledge. The writer, 
who is evidently a humorous i>erMOU, tells a story of 
A certain church in (iloucestershire M'herc a stranger 
clergyman, on a certain occasion, was ttalled ui>on 
to i>reach, and was asked by the churchwarden if 
he would deliver his discourse from the reading- 
4lesk, as a hon-turkey was sitting on her nest in the 
])uli)it. A similar tale is current as to several of 
the churches in thefenlauds of the East Coast, with 
the variation tliat a goose takes the place of the 
turkey. The story occurs in Arthur Young's 
*( General View of the Agriculture of the County of 
Lincoln/ 1790, p. 437 ; but it is i>robably far older 
than his time. 

The Quarterty Rtrmc: Janiiar}/, VHfT. (Murray.) 
'Foxhunting Old and Nkw' is an admirable 
]>ai)er. It is unsigned, but obviously written by 
«ome one who has had a manysided exi>erience of 
the siwrt^ He is not only conversant with Beck- 
ford's * Thoughts on Huntnig,' but also knows his 
Nimrod and Surtees, as well as many of the earlier 
:and more recent sporting books. The writer gives 
what seems to be a complete catalogue of the ladies 
wlio own itaoka of hounds at this day, and it is 
highly satisfactory to note that all are reiwrted to 
Im) well acnuainted with the duties of the iiositioiu 
Lady Salisbury, who is spoken of as the most famous 
liorHewoman of the eighteenth century, kei>t a iiack 
of hounds at Hatfield, and was the tirst woman who 
was master of hounds. This we do not doubt is 
strictly true, if we regard hunting from the 8i>orts- 
man's \\omt of view only, but surely not otherwise. 
In far earlier times tlie Northern shires (Kissessed 
women who kept dogs of various kinds for the 
l)urj)08e of killnig foxes, wliieh they regarded as 
noxious vermin which att^ the lambs and pillaged 
the hen-roosts. T-jwly Salisbury's was a i^ack of 
•dwarf hounds, and the uniform sky-blue. Scarlet 
had not then Iwjctmie the almost iniiversal garb in 
the hunting field. It may be well to remember this, 
for we fear there are yet people who still hold to 
the fable that it has been the costume of the hunt- 
ing man since the days of William Rufus. It seems 
there are abtmt 175 iiacks of houmls in our island. 
This means about I'2,(XX) hounds, and the exi>en- 
diture is reckoned at half a million sterling, a sum 
which would have horrified the old - fashioned 

Mr. R. K. Prothcro writes on ' The (iro^n'th of the 
Historical Novel.' We have l)een much interestecl 
in his paiier, which shows wide reading ; but some 
of the Dooks he mentions can hardly be included in 
the historical series. If they were, nearly all novels 
might find a ])lace with them. We have read hardly 
one which does not indicate— usually in a manner 

Prof. C. H. Herford's * Ruskin and the 
Revival' goes l>ack to an earlier time tb 
usually attributed to that movement 
(jrothic in truth ever wholly die out? T 
seventeenth-century (iothic at Oxford ; and 
seen chests of the same character, undo 
made by village cari«;nters, l)earing dates 
early part of the eighteenth century. 

Miss Ida Taylor's article on the Hotel ( 
liouillet and that by Prof. Saintflburv 
'Honore de Balzac and M. Brunetiere'a 
well wortli reading. 

ME.SSRS. J. W. ViCKER-s & Co. have sent 
Xtni^Hjtajttr (la-Mtter. This annual referett 
of the press for the United Kingdom a 
colonies is nrorhiced with its usual aocurac 
wlitor modestly states in his short intro 
that "any suggestions which maybe likely 
to corrections and imiirovements will \n 
received and greatly valued." 

The Shakksi>eark Head Press, which 1 
completed the )>rinting of the magnificent 
ford Town " Shakespeare, announces a secon 
of Mr. Charles Crai^-ford's 'Collectanea, 
volume consists of articles showing the ii 
exercised by Montaigne on Webster and IL 
and the relations lietween the styles of Doi 
Webster, iUustrate<l by a number of j^ral 
sages. But the most interesting i>art is tli 
of the " Bacon-Shakesi»eare Question,*^ to 
Mr. Crawford has given six years' close ati 
It consists of a serious refutation of B 
arguments, ))roving that Bacon's supporter 
ac<(uainted not only with the mass of Eliu 
literature, but also M'ith the work of Bacon 1 

The same Press will issue shortly 'A < 
(ii-ove,' by Drummond of Hawthomden. M: 
BuUen contributes a short introduction, a 
layson's mezzotint of Cornelius Johnson's \ 
of Drummond is rcpnxluced aa frontispiece, 
students of the Morks of Sir Thonuis Bron 
finished prose of his Scottish precursor has a 
interest. This interesting reprint will 1« i-s! 
liand-made pa))cr. tastefully ]irinted and boi 

example, worthless as literature, but — as we 
imagine, unconscioiwly to the writer — conveys 
instruction as to the manners of the time in which 
-Bhe livecL 

j^otias ia (!Dorrta]ioniient! 

H> matt call xprxial attention to the fo 
notictM : — 

Ox all communications must bo written th 
and address of the sender, not necessarily f 
lication, but as a guarantee of good faith. 

W'e cannot undertake to answer queries pri 
nor can we advise correspondents as to th« 
of old books and other objects or as to the m 
disT)08ing of tliem. 

N. W. H. (Philadelphia). - No charge ii 
for insertion of imv (iuerie& For "So Ion 
9 S. vii. 129. 2:«, 29i. 

Editorial communications shcmld be adc 
to "The Editor of 'Notes and Qaeries*"- 
tisements and Business Letters to **Thi 
Ushers"— at the Oflioc, BraMA^S llii^«^jngii Gh 
Lane, E.C. 

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(See onte, pp. 81. 122.) 
TWS Oovernint^nt Offioefl at Uie corner of 
.^•rliament Strwt and ilreat iU^nrnc^ Street 
iront Hteadily forwwd duri but 

ro s^till far from fini9)»e<l. Imp: 

virtually a part of NVw >.< ..Mmna ^ ard| 
the Victoria Embankment »*» nearint; 
apletioQ. and will !• i,-d early this 

Tlie buildin« 'Wi^ a** the 

ehall Chib, at tlif - .-km . .»( PttHiament 
X *nd Derby Stn>et, wbh <:!oiie<l and 
and ha^ hvvu for inontlis in th»* liaiids 
hiiildefj*. but no one neeius to know 
about its futiiTt". Tlireatcned 
—•.id places — last long, so Great 
J Strc«rt, long tlireat4?n«i with demoli- 
still «tAndfl. ttltyMMigh some of the 
I have bren vacAt«-tl, and »ome of the 
lin Dclaliay Strt-et aold to the Oovem- 

~At %t '^^ onoi of thp "latest bits 

pf famSlii u of long ago " di»appc«red 

[n May uJicu improvement (?) " Hwent 
^way the pair of gati« l«acUng into St. 
" Ptirk from Crcat Grorge Street." 

These gates, which were very old. together 
with a quaint gate-keeper's box, were 
ronioved, as they were found to be a source 
of danger to the fast-travelling motor-ear 
and carriages. A sketch of the roadway 
Hti altered and of the old gate-kee[jer &{>- 
peared in T/w Daily Graphic of 2.3 May. 

In Broad Sanctuary the ground floor of 
the premiaeB vacated by the National 
Society has been adapted as a sliowrooni 
for the sale of the Reo Automobile. On the 
site of tlie Royal Aquarium, at the corner of 
Tothill Street and Princes Street, some work 
has been done in connexion with the founda- 
tions of the Wesleyan Church House, to be 
erected here, but for about six montha 
little or no progresa haa been made. At 
No. 1, Deans Yard some alterations are 
proceeding. In Tothill Street, Caxton 
House was finifthed early in the year, and 
is now, at least in part, occupied as offices. 
Broadway House, of which a portion is in 
the same street— a pile of business premises 
containing 5,500 feet superficial — was sold 
by private treaty by Messrs. Trollope & 
Sons during the first week in August, but 
the price was not stated. At 8. Broad 
Sanctuary, a house interesting to We«t- 
minster people, aa having been the resiidence 
of Mr. JaiTie^ Grose (at one time church- 
warden of St. Mai'garct's), has undergone 
alteration and enlargement, and is now 
occupied as offices by Messrs, J. Brown & 
Co., and Messrs. Thomaa Firth & Sons. 

In Victoria Street the centre of the three 
entrancea (No. 87) to Marlborough Mani^iona 
lias been much improved by the erection 
of some elaborate granite-work, which haa 
addtnl to the important appearance of the 
building — a feature wliieh it sadly needed. 
The Mliop at the corner of Artillery Row» 
lately held by Mesars. Robins. Snell & Co., 
and the one next door in Artillery Row 
munbered 01 in Victoria Street, juwt vacated 
by the City of Westminster Refreshment 
Company, are to be remodelled. Li Great 
I Cliapel Strec^t an extensive clearance has 
' been made, really extending some distance 
' into Daere Street, upon which mtire ^Ats 
I are to be erected ; but at the close of the 
' year there was very little to see. though 
j the work had been in hand from March. 
[ In Palmer Street some 8ho|>fronts have 
I been put into the flats known as ** Tlie 
, Albany," and the shops liave j*ince been 
occupied by a firm of dealers in antiques, 
a trade which seems to have found a per- 
manent abode in tliis locahty. 

In Buckingham Gate (the part fonnerly 
James Street) the building known as *' th9i 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo s. vn. march % m. 

house of many angles,'* which was orisinaDy 
erected for the St. Margaret's Worldiouse, 
and subsequentiy named Wellington. House, 
in use by the Government as quarters for 
married soldiers, was demolished, to give 
place to a new Wellington House, a pile of 
nats, and a residential hotel upon an im- 
proved plan, and at what are said to be 
enormous rents ; but of this more anon. 
No. 171, Victoria Street, at the comer of 
Francis Street — the building known as 
Victoria House, and intended at the forma- 
tion of this street to be a public-house — 
is now being altered in many ways ; but the 
work only began in the last quarter of the 
year, and will take some time to complete. 
In this street a few more of the ground-floor 
flats were converted into shops during the 
year, and still a few more are to be trans- 
formed. The last house in St. Margaret's 
parish — on the north side aj^proaching the 
station, and on the banks of Kmg's Scholars' 
Pond sewer which crosses the street at this 
spot — was the last one done. 

IVom Francis Street, opposite the rear of 
Westminster Cathedral, a new street, alluded 
to in my last year's review, called Stillington 
Street — why or wherefore no one seems to 
know — has been formed, and was opened 
about November. As before stated, the 
construction of this street has necessitated 
the removal of a numb^ of small houses 
known as Buckingham Cottages, most of 
them disappearing between March and 
June. In the clearance at this spot were 
included the houses 22 to 34 Willow Street 
(even numbers), which were demolished in 
June ; but the vacant land is as yet unutilized. 
The street is in two parishes, the newly 
formed part being in St. Margaret's parish, 
while the portion which carries it on into 
Rochester Row is in St. John's parish, and 
was already in existence, and known as a 
portion of Buckingham Cottages. The street 
thus added to the map of London is one that 
does not seem likely to be of much use, as it 
virtually leads to no place of consequence. 

A portion of the extension of the London 
tramway system over Westminster Bridge 
and along the Victoria Embankment is 
within the scope of this article, for St. 
Margaret's parish takes from the centre of 
the bridge to Horse Guards Avenue, and it 
must therefore be mentioned that the work 
was started as soon as the Parliamentary 
session closed, and before the end of the year 
another step towards linking the lines north 
and south of the Thames had. taken place. 

It may be thought worthy of notice that 
a small portion of the site of the Queen 

; Victoria Memorial in front of Bucking^uun 

I Pcdace is in St. Margaret's parish. Work i» 

, going on there, but it is not possible to wf 

yet what progress has been made. So far 

as I can say, this exhausts the list of chngei 

during 1906 ; but many and extensive a» 

those likely to takeplace during the yen 

just opened. W. E. Hakland-Oxlby. 


The last paragraph of the note on * West- 
minster Changes, 1906,' ante, p. 126, is net 
quite correct. College dormitory has ben 
I re-roofed owing to the timely discovery tint 
some of the old beams were utterly decayed, 
but no new story has been added. " Saigne's," 
the College sanatorium, at the end whieb 
abuts on Great CoUege Street, has been 
enlarged, and that must be the change to 
which your correspondent refers. 

Old Westxinsteb. 

In an old album, such as was dear to tl» 
gentle sex in the early Victorian period, I 
came across * Themus Mac-na Torshach^ 
Idea of the Garden of Eden and the Origin 
of the First Dress worn by Man.' Thinkioff 
it may interest the readers of *N. A QJ 
1 have copied it. It was signed by Mr.. 
James Graeme, who was Laird of Garvock, 
in Perthshire. 

Kre the Laird cardit or the Lady 8i>on 
In frays' skins their hale race ran. 
"Well," said Tortoise, "what wonld ye give for 
such lx>nny braes and birks and rivera as are in tiw 
forrest of Athol, if they could be transferred to- 
your wild country?" 

" An' are there nae bonnv braes and biriw >» 
Badenoch? Ye 're joost as "bad as our niinitter; 

, ... day joost 

the Muir o' Badenoch lys noo, an* in nae ither jJaoe* 
Is no there an island in Loch Lhinne that bears tfc» 
name o' the Lios-Mor to this blessed day ? Fan I Ui 
you that, and that I hae seen the island mysd'.fc^ 
can doubt my word?" 

But, Mac, the Bible savs the garden was plaotiir 
- " "" ....... , ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^ 

lenoch ! for tm ] 
.— Jm shure then*' 
nae want o them there ; an' as for its bein' «■*» 
oVr, that is, when Adam planted the LioamoTi tl 
sat ni a bonny bothan on a brae in Luchaber an'nH' 
doot lukit eastwar' to Badenoch, an' saw a* tUf ' 
sproutin' and prowin' atween 'im an' the sun ftf ■' 
cam ripplin' o er the braes frae Athol in the haf' 
simmer momincs.'' 

" But, Mao, the Bible further says, they took I 
leaves and made themselves aprons. Yoa oia 
say that figs ever grew in Badenoch." 

" Hout tout ! there 's naebody can tell fat ^ 

LMAuru- looi.i 140TES AND QUERIES. 

Liu v.. • ; ' • ■■ '-' ■• .' '' ■ 1 ' ' ''V-i' 

[mil- ''."', ' ■ '' '"' 

I L<«M.'|jul*CI . U UHstlMga' hUilln, MU llU tig lilttJea, lUllt 

I th««v tiijul*< i^buw •>'. •FijiK,' I manii tell you. i» 

» Lorf V ■ -: ;'- ^ - , > ■ ' -V; 1 . air fan the 
aul' 1 m' an aiiiile 

Init K Junior tHni 

roriii ihcjii. .Ill kimjxiij; thv jot twu iKJttuie roes ; an^ 
Iaii the gudi'iiiHti mhmI, 'See \n>w ruiKetuble we tva 

fionnie hcastiet) wecl 
re we RtAJut shanic- 

thri twn nu'^ lienixl 

Mve tu 

. 1 1 wat\ 

>.^ , ,,.^. jtf drew 

.<■ tithef o'er the 

kt wett? the first 

1 nrv left : iherv hUw^ 
vlftde in their ain ; 
) fnrwl Afi' riJikil, A 
I thiit. th«v lap outv u ti 
I th«?>r BiitfcTUiic' nuiisler, 
[<io l«) thJH rluy Fan th*- 
I i»e tirttf'tt itkin on her uu 
lKit<Ufwife: ii<M>, let me t 
I A^^'M in the vorfd" 

*' By thfu aoooiint, Mac, hut tirmt jiareutR sjioke 

*• An' (at ither hiul tJiev to kiiaUc, tell mo? Oui- 
liiiiniwter hayii they i4|Hike flTi'bri'W, an' fat*« Hebrew 
\n\i (Jttflio, the M'arel o' Gadic. let ikUnc Welsh 
Uaelic ! " 

•* He wniihl require iii-r»<>f fliiw ^^»v^•." 

*• Pnxjf , man ! <lisnft ^ * Cwrsed in 

^♦h«« ♦troiinrl for A<1htiV« » iro** |i»«; on 

»iiUi tM;i) uuvei aee it. Lei Utudi uuutriMlie' iiie Ja 

Oninge Villa, Oiiems' \ 



(See 9 8. x. 487 ; a, T7.) 
I HAVB received the foUovricg letter from 
Hie Rev. Henry Barber, a well-kjiown 
authority, who gives some interesting infor- 
mation about the name and faiatly of Ell : — 

l)K>R Sir.— I am i* i 

forwanlecl ihroiiKh my >t 

l>,t- ».' 'n« ,>t my work t'j _ . „-....:. „^..: ..ii ..i-i- 
ti> ' I) Always wiUing to tntee « name to it« 


lilt ! Mit.h th' 

tlm' Xornmn ori 

tlvroujihnul the centiii 
Korntan lV««i|.le' 'H. S 
KUe^, «»i H." 
He*U«, lV<ui 
lu'ii'. M ttnc>-- 

' I 


" 'ill 

i:h iwttlwl in KncUtKl UWH. and Imre a hend 

In the rliui'th of A;<h I he amis are Argent, a 
f'lievTon Hal»h.\ between three leojiards' faces or, 
Jn'ing the foundntiun <^i tlie modem arma. 

The family was «i(read throu)thont Kent and 
Surrey, and from it ttroliahly derived 8ir Moyse 
Hill, ancestor of the >lurtinise.<« of D<»wnfthire. 

I do not think that Ell is a eorru]ttion of Hill, 
though Hill may i»oM*iili|y W- derived fit>ni Helles in 
some cases. Hill is, howe\'er, uenerally an KtijfUfth 
local name, a contraetion of at-hill.^' I cnunot 
find Ell or Helles in the Roll of Fines and Ohlations 
of Kirifj John, It may he in the Hinidiwl Koll«, 
hut the refoitls of the Countj' of Kent mi^ht lie- 
searched with »clvant4ifci;c. Hknrv BAKfiKK, 

In the ' Calendar of State Papers, Domestic, 
1633-4,' p. 10. we find " 163.3, 37. II. Certifi- 
cate of Thomas Ejll, the High Constable 
but I have been unable to discover 

11 .11.. -ri, 1 

to the 

where he was High Constable. 

In * Calendar of Border Papers : Vol. II. 
15&o-lG0.'i,* at p. 797, will be found a letter 
from George Ell to Robin of Pic hell, dated 
12 Sept., 1602. 

Tn vol. XXX. of Sussex Archcnoloriical 
Colhclions, in a note on p. 141, there is 
reference to a suit in time of K. John 

" hietwcen the family of Hellea and Manaiwer de- 
Ha.*4tincs cfineeminp n camcate of land ne»ir Favor- 
^hani (abbrevnatio Placitorum)- The (irango WiM 
held to Henr\* HI. in AerjeAntv by ManaMHer de H. 
(Htisted, iv. 2:^) ; and 10 Hen. \\1. there was a line 
levied Itetween ^^iilliert de Helles and Robert de 
HaatirigH, of land in nillinghiim. Ermine, three 
lozenges gules, was one of the coats of Relies." 

In Su9ffcx Arch, Col,, vol. v, p. 242, amongst 
names of priests in the Deanerv of Hastings, 
appear- " Thomas Helles." H. 0. Ell. 

Uhriatokurob, New Zealand. 

" SuPAVi'N " : rrs Origin. — This Ame- 
rican term for a kind of porridge has been 
in use from the earliest period. The French 
colonists wrote it soupane, the Dutch 
»upaen. One is surprised to find it de- 
scribed in the ' Century Dictionary * as 
'* probably connected with pofie.'* This is 
a most inaccurate statement. The words 
pon6 and supaum are both of American 
Indian origin, but they are from entirely 
different roots. I need not go into the 
h istory of powe, as that is being dealt with 
by I>r. Murray. Supaivn is an Indian past 

Earticiple, from a verb meaning to soften 
y water, boil soft. In the late Dr. Tnira- 
bull's ' Natick Dictionary ' it is printed 
saufyd-un. Strachey's Virginian vocabulary 
(circa 1615) includes it as *^ (utapan, hasty 
pudding." The Abenalci form is given by 
tlie Frenchman Rasles as ntganbann, but in 
Laurent's more modern Abenaki vocabulary 
(1884) it appears as " n«o6on, com sour " 



Matthias the Impostor. — For a shrewd 
people, the Americans are remarkably 
.gulhble in matters of religion. Among the 
impostors who have preyed upon them 
from time to time — and their name is legion — 
one of the most singular was Robert Mat- 
thews, wlio had a colleague named Elijah 

Matthews was born about 1789, and 
Pierson probably a few years earlier. 
Matthews, a journeyman house-carpenter of 
Albany, N.Y., was carried away by the 
*' revivalism " of Charles G. Finney, himself 
an oddity. Shortly after this, he began to 
advocate teetotalism, and to denounce the 
impiety of shaving and of freemasonry. 
Pierson, a fervent Anabaptist, took to him- 
self authority to preach in New York in 
1830, and made an imsuccessful attempt to 
raise a dead woman to life. This precious 
pair came together in New York m May, 
1832, and soon discovered their spiritual 
affinity. Matthews, with some inconsistency 
declared himself to be Matthias the Apostle, 
the angel of Rev. xiv. 6, and also the Creator 
of all things. Pierson contented himself 
with the inferior, but respectable title of 
Elijah the Tishbite, otherwise John the 
Baptist. Matthews, managing to beguile a 
wealthy merchant, who became his banker, 
proceeded to adopt a costume which he 
tliought suitable to his pretensions : — 

"He di8i>layc<l fine oanibrio iiifflea around his 
wrists and uijon his bosom ; and to a rich silken 
scarf, interwoven with cold, were susjKjnded 
twelve golden tassels, erableniaticalof the twelve 
tri^K** of Israel. His tine linen niKhtcaps were 
wrought witli curious skill of needlewoi-lc, with 
the names of the twelve AiK)8tles embroidered 

Out of doors ho wore 

**a black cap of jai»anned leather, in sha]K' like an 
inverted cone, with a shade ; a frock coat, generally 
of fine green cloth, lined with white or pink satin ; 
a vest, commonly of richly figured silk ; green or 

black I >antaloon8, sometimes with sandals with 

a black stock around his neck." 
He declared that he would build the New 
Jerusalem in the western part of New York 
State. It was to contain an immense and 
gorgeous temple. All the temple utensils 
were to be of gold and silver, marked with 
a lion. A manufacturer asked whether it 
was the British lion they wanted ; to which 
Matthews answered, " No ; for the British 
lion was a devil ; but he meant the Lion of 
the Tribe of Judah." 

In 1834 Pierson died, under circumstances 
which strongly suggested poisoning. Mat- 
thews was tried and acquitted. He was 
imprisoned, however, for three montlis for 

an assault with a horsewhip on his invned 
daughter. The court, by Mr. Justice Rng^ 
said : — 

*' We are satisfied that you are ui impottor, Md 
that you do not believe in your own doctrinet. w« 
advise you, therefore, when you come out of jiil, to 
shave off your beard, lay aside your peculiar dn«^ 
and go to work like an honest man." 

These notes are taken from a work of 
some scarcity, W. L. Stone's * Matthias vA 
his Impostures,* New York, Harper, 1835. 


The Authorship op * Is It Shakespeabe?* 
— This anonymous book, regarded by many 
as the ablest presentation of the Baconitf 
theory which has yet appeared, contains • 
dedication concluding with this subscriptioa 
in red ink : — 

So, Reviewers, save my Bacon, 

O let not Folly mar IXelight : 
followed by this suggestion of a challenge :" 

These mv name and claim unriddle 
To all who set the Rubric right. 
The following seems to "set the Rutei* 
right " : " Walter Begley, the discovertf 
of Milton's ' Nova Solyma.* *' 

Chas. a. Herpigh. 

[This riddle was solved in The Athinfttm wh* 
the lxK>k appeared.] 

"Pull one's leg."— * The Standard 
Dictionary ' explains this expression » 
(slang, U.S.) "to borrow money or obtais 
some favor from one by solicitation." I* 
has a slightly different meaning in England* 
and is generally used to express an intention 
to deceive or hold up to ridicule. 

Before the invention of the long drop to 
executions the phre^e had another meaning* 
it being iLsed to express the action of tlw 
friends of a criminal, who pulled the le^ I 
of the condemned man to shorten hii 
sufferings. In Hood's poem * The La* 
Man ' the hangman, left uone in the woridt 
contemplates suicide, but desists, sa^'ing :— 
In vain my fanoy begs. 
For thei-e is not another soul alive 
In tlie world to pull mj- legs. 

JoHx Hebb. 

iNscBirTiONS AT Bellaoio, Italy.— Ib 
the small cemetery for foreigners attached 
to the general cemetery, are the following ' 
inscriptions (May, 1905) : — 

1. Agnes Elizabeth, w. of Althans Bladi* 
well, of Moseley, Binningheun, ob. at BellagiOb 
26 June. 1898, a. 51. 

2. Nellie, w. of Arthur Charles ParkinM* 
of London, after ten days of mazriagi 
eb. 10 June, 1895, a. 25. 

vn. yLsmn 2, 1907] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


Iminft Crabbe, of Glen Eyre, Soath- 

n. wid. of Col, E\Te Jolin Crabbe, 

ob. ttt tho Cirande Bretakgne Hotel, 

rio. 12 Oct., 18H8, a. 77. 

flara Elizabeth, dau, of Eklward and 

Ann Pembroke, of Black}ie«th» ob, 

I Ap- 1886, a. 18. 

Carolijie, dati. of FrAticLs and 
[obson, of Burnt Stones, Slu/ftield. 
M^'iiitted by me.) 
_^*DougIa« Herbert, infant a. of Mar- 
ht« Wilhelmine Banning, ob. 25 June, 
lS9p^ a. 6 months, 

Bidney Herbert Brunner, of Winning- 
riiesliire. a. 23, who lost his life in 
^ hiA elder brother from drowning, 
LS^pt.. iHim, bur- U Sept. 

>< John Strachev Hare, ob, at Bellagio, 
n Ap.. 1893. a. 48.' Erected by his wife. 
" f'** Serine Chamberlain. The rest of 
.'tion could not be read on account 
, li and weeds covering the croaa. 
li». liiHoche Henrietta Johnea Pechell, 
'J-a Boiftsonade and Marestield Park, 
,oh. 12 Ap.. IS^tOor 8 ?1. 
e is another atill smaller cemetery 
i) adjoining the Englisli Church, a 
in the outride wall of which states 
"he land wag bought by Mr. Richard 
Beddome, of London^ aa the biu-ial- 
^ hia aon Thoma* William Beddome, 
ren by luin to tlie Commune of 
aa an English cemeter\% Januarj^ 
G. S. Parry, Lieut .-Col/ 
Je c.'ardcTjK, Eimtbourntv 
PftAjhtT hut* of in'^oriptiorifl on Britifihers 
bruftd 9t« 10 S. i. 3BI, 442. 4»«: ii. 1.t(>: 
'*!; V. 381 c vi 4, 124. IflTi, .102, -kMi, 44«i.j 

iBAM Lincoln and Eukopkan Poli' 

»8. — Mr. Brj'oe, in Jiia Introduction 

" Ev^^ryinan " edition of * Speechen 

ettera of Abraham Lincoln, 1832- 

Apht%fit7AVi — I think over-empliasizes, 

*"■»! of that work will nhow — the 

*ican President a lack of education; 

} obttervea :■ — 

"•■ ' VI' Imd onlv '• ' i ' ' .r.|nniiit. 

<ri hlstor^ ahvh nf 

■ wrtnl nl ,n,^„ wnB 

i Jul l.y Dip ]wr^Ju.A hiiiuhiij wlioiii his lot 

VI ho wiw It KroHM iniiti he never moveil 

ftvUom which H ■ 'f Jen„, th^fj^. 

irhinh th« mintl ,r or a. stt^tv^- 

I l» iit«r<?d. K hi- hiul iifihit'il 

fcotict;, thrre M iny years tm 

k» mix wjtli, . tK'tty pmv- 

ty ti»»-n. Hi .„,.. all of whom 

b«n hf thd hiumwlf, 

_ smacka of the old t>T>e of 

tunff Lincoln, voiced in a letter 

"^ by »t» customarily sagacious 

a political thinker as Sir George Comewall 
Lewis, who wrote : — 

*'l hav<^ rievtT l>et;n ttl>k', either >n conversntioii 
or by rt'ftflin^t. to oF»tAiii an niiswet to tho <|uestion. 
W'hnt will tho North do if tliev heal the Soutli ! 
To restore the old Union would Ims nn ulwurdity. 
^ylmt other stntc of things doe-n thatvilLige kwyei', 
Lincoln, contemplate ns the fruit of victory?" 
It ia not, however, borne out by Lincoln's- 
earlier addresses, while liis later are very far 
from being the utterance of a mere " petty 
practitioner " or *' village lawyer." In hi"* 
letter to Joshua F, Speed of 24 Aug., 1865, ' 
for instance, Lincoln observes : — 

*'Wht.*n I wns at WashioRttm, I \-oted for the 
Wilniot Proviso forty times t and I nevt-r heard of 
any one attemiitin^ Ui tmwhit? mv for that**— 

a phrase which showed at least suflficient 
acquaintance with the by-ways of European 
politico 8w* aptly to recall the storj^ of the 
younger Pitt exclaijuing to a friend concern- 
ing Fox during the debates on the Regency 
Bill of 1788, ''I'll un-Whig the gentleman 
for the rest of hia life." 

It was, of course, by coincidence, and not 
through reminiscence, that Lincoln in hia 
address before the Washingtonian Temper- 
ance Society, at Springfield, Illinois, on 
22 Feb., 1842, remarked, *' It ia an old and 
a true maxim ' that a drop of honey catches 
more flies than a gallon of gall,' " though 
it was Sir Robert Waipole's expressed 
belief that more flies are caught by honey 
than by vinegar. To Walpole, aa to Lincoln^ 
wai4 given the upjiort unity — of whicli each 
availed himaelf to the full — for safoJy carry- 
ing hia country through a most perilous 
internal eriKia ; and each political genius 
waa described as a country lout and a buffoon 
by the more cultured and leas far-seeing 
among their contemporary critics. 

Alfked F. KoBBrNS. 

" Conscientious objection.*' — In the- 
' Life and Letters of Leslie Stephen ' (1905), 
p. 183, occura the following sentence from a 
letter of Leslie Stephen under date 8 Nov., 
1866 : "... .1 have a conscientious objec- 
tion to my present position.'* Poaaibly 
thift may be'the earliest use of the expression 
from wliieh in later times we have *' con- 
scientious objectors." H. W. V. 

" BoTHOMBAR."— In Dyce's * Skelton,' ii. 
31, in the poem entitled 'Why Come Ye 
Nat to Courte ? ' 1. 135. we find the form 
*' Bothombar," respecting which Dyce aays : 
*' I know not what place is meant here." 
The context aaya that tho English have 
made a shameful truce with the Scotch, and 
have given up tho war agairat V\vcnv, '' Vxoxa. 


NOTES AND QUERIES, no s. vil march «, 

Baumberow to Bothombar." The sense is, 
throughout the northern district of England. 
*' Baumberow " is, of course, Bamborough. 
The foot-note says that, in place of " Bothom- 
bar," other editions have " Bothambar." 
This gives the solution, for the latter form 
:€tands for "Botham Bar," i.e., Bootham 
Bar, in the city of York. 

Walteb W. Skeat. 

H nr Shbofshibe and Worcestebshibe. 
— Db. Raitdolph at 9 S. viii. 283 inquired 
-what ground there was for saying that some 
old Shrofwhire families drop their A*s, and 
Tather pride themselves on doing so. As 
he may not be a subscriber to Berrow'a 
Worcester Journal, the following extract 
^rom that paper, dated 17 Nov., 1906, may 
^nterest him and your readers generally : — 

"Mr. Stapleton Martin writes from Norton, 

Worcester: 'I have recently read a letter of 

F. 0. Morris, the naturalist, who died in 1893, 
written to the London Timen news])aper in June, 
1878. in which, after stating that he was afraid that 
the beautiful county of Worcester must be held to 
•be the cunabula of the ofiPenoes of omission and of 
•commission against the letter h, he said that when 
he M-as at school at Bromsgrove the following lines 
:aimeared somewhere about that time in one of the 
Worcester papers : 

The CJomplaint of the letter H to the Inhabitants 

of Worcester. 
Whereas by you I have been driven 
From hoi)e. from home, from house, from heaven, 
And ^)lacea by your most leam'd society 
In exile, anguish, and anxiety, 
I hereby ask full restitution. 
And beg you '11 mend your elocution. 

To which the following rejoinder appeared in the 

Jiext week's jmiMir : — 

Whereas we 've rescued you, ingrate. 

From hell, from horror, and from hate, 

From hedgebill, horsejwnd. and from halter. 

And consecrated you in altar, 

We think you need no restitution, 

And shall not mend our elocution. 

The writer added that he inclined to think that 
they had kept to their determination and had been 
as good as their word. There are now very few old 
(untitled) families in Worcestershire in existence, 
but people who have actiuired a certain county 
status in it may be heard, at this day, to drop the 
too-rough A, though hardly, I think, would [they] 
•care^to lioast that they did.' " 

Fbancis H. Relton. 
9, Broughton Road, Thornton Heath, 
[Mr. Jonathan Bouchier printed at o S. v. 64 
(22 Jan., 1876) a similar 'Remonstrance from the 
Letter H to the Inhabitants of Shropshire,' with an 
'Answer frohi the Inhabitants of Shropshire.' The 
first two lines of the * Remonstrance ' run :— 
Whereas by you we have been driven 
From hearth and home, from hope and heaven, 
iJie second line being a decided improvement The 
•other variations are not im))ortant. At 9 8. vi. 85 

full itttrticulars are given with re8i)ect 
original publication of Catherine Fanshaw* 
brated lines 

'Twas whispered in heaven, 'twas muttered 
while at 7 S. vi. 110 is printed in full Horn 
hew's iMirody, beginning 
I dwells in the Herth, and I breathes in the 
If you searches the Hocean, you'll find tl 

Pancake Bell in Newcastle.— 
rather surprised, as a Londoner, to i 
Brockett's ' Glossary of North - C 
Words * that on Shrove Tuesday 
a general custom in the North t< 
pancakes served up." This custom is 
by Dr. Murray in the *N.E.D.,* b 
custom is certainly not peculiar to the 
Brockett goes on to quote from Tay 
Water-Poet a record of a former cus 
Newcastle on Shrove Tuesday, whic 
have been (let us hope was) only local 

"When the clock strikes eleven, which 
help of a knavish sexton) is commonly befo 
then there is a )x;ll rune, called pancaie 
sound whereof makes thousands of i>eo 
tracted and forgetful either of mam 

W. T. L 


[For the Pancake Bell at various places i 
iii. 225, 331, and the references api>ended 
Ratcliffe's note.] 

Languages in Bubma. — The 
Daily News of Calcutta, in its iss 
7 January, under the heading * The I 
Babel,' says that the Lieutenant-Gk 
of Burma has directed that the grc 
languages shall be officially as follows 

I. The Siyin, Tashon, Lai, Chinbok, and 
dialects of tneChin language, and the Chinl 

as spoken on the borders of Arakan Divis 
the Thayetmyo, Minbu, and Henzada Distr 

II. The Kami and Mro languages. 

III. The Chingpaw dialect of the Kac 

IV. The The Maninuri language. 

V. The Karenni, the Bre, the Padoung, 
Zavein languages. 

VI. The Taungthu langut^e. 

VIL The Palaung, tlie Pale, and Riau: 
Lam dialect) languages. 

VIII. The Wa language ob s|K>ken eithe 
State of Mang Lun or in the State of Kent 

IX. The Lahu or Muhso and the Lisaw la 

X. Tlie Atsi or Szi and the Maru languag 

XI. The Siamese language. 

XII. The Malay language. 

The districts in or on the borders of wl 
several groups of languages above 8i»ecifie( 
held to be Hi>oken are :— 

I. All districts in the Arakan Division, 1 
zada, Thayetmyo, Pakokku, Minbu. km 
Chindwin Districts, and the Chin Hills. 

IL The Northern Arakan and Akyab Dii 


viL Maroi 2. 19U7.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

I UfiperOiimlwin, BLarm», Myitkyinft, Katha, 
uby Mines Diistriol4«. find the Northern .Shaa 

I AiiiherNt JJistriots, 

:' t anrl the 8outber(i 

I Northern Shan 8tftt*>B. 
_ „bl»\ >l.i*v.-, Bhaitus au(l Myitkvitta 
•nd the Nortlieni nud S«julhcrn bhoii 

lo iiiifl Myitkyina Di^lricts, 
Trtvoy, and Mergui Districts, tuid 
.v.. .. . Juiti .StatCi. 
, Mcrjfui District- 
worth while recording the above liat 
I *N, & Q,\ if it were only for the sake of 
; it at hand when wanted, 

H. H. S. 

Tobacco " : its ETYMi>UDOY. — The full 

istory of this word itt not given in any dic- 

It is, of courae, a matter of common 

o that it was picked up by the 

in the Antilles, and originally 

4>e tlirough wiiioh the IndianH 

d or amiffcd the plaut. An 

tide in The American Anthro- 

.r back as 1889 (vol. ii. p. 133), 

l***iiw to itttve e8<'aj»ed the attention of our 

IJMicogTttjjhers. It is by Dr. A. EmMt, and 

> show* that in the Tupi language of Brazil 

iu atill the name of tliese primitive 

pipes. It wUl perliaf^ be aaked 

connexion there is, hnguistically, 

en Brazil and Haj-ti. Having been 

god for many years looking up ety- 

pdA of American terms for the ' N.E.D.,' 

liable to say that the Tupi langui^^e of 

and the Carib dialects of Guiana and 

had a large vocabulary in common. 

tiiation is. not that the languagea 

e, but that the Cariba borrowed 

lir neighViours. Many zoological 

no. in Englisn — aiich as agouii, cabiai, 

|«««l», tfuata — maj' have come to us from 

ither Tupi or Carib. The same is true of 

botanical terma— «uch as karatci^, 

e, tannia — and to these we may safely 

!h** w«>rd tobacco. The two forms in 

^ been preser\'ed, Tupi taboai 

nshaco, are both accented upon 

• avllable, and differ so slightly that 

©i no doubt as to their identity. 

arrive at the valuable fact that 

properly a Hra/ilian term, but early 

».. »,...... ,. ^ ; I r . -tnpanied 

r he West 

Jv ,. iw,.. and wan 

i by thtt followers of Columbug, 

■Tas Platt, Jun. 

'^* Possession kine points of the law.*' 
— In connexion with this quasi-legal maxim, 
I think the quefttion was a^ked some time 
ago, " How many points has the law, and 
what are they ? " The question did not 
ahow much appreciation of the meaning of 
of the maxim ; but it may perhaps be 
answered iwscording to its wisdom, by sajong, 
" The law (like anything else) has jtist as 
many points as you choose to attribute to 
it for the ptirpose of stating a proportion. 
When you say (as raoat people do at present) 
that possession is nine points of the law, you 
suppose ' the law ' to have ten points ; but 
if you say, in accordance with earlier usage, 
that possession is tUven points of the law, 
you suppose ' the law ' to have twelve 
points ; while, if you say, as has also been 
said, that possession is nin&tif-nine points of 
the law. you suppose ' the law ' to have a 
hundred points. In other words, the 
question is not how many points " the law " 
has, but what proportion of all the points 
possession is equal to. The actual purport 
of the maxim, of course, ia that, in a dispute 
about property, possession is (or used to be, 
when the saying arose in the hfteenth 
century) so strong a point in favour of the 
possessor, that it might outweigh nine, or 
eleven, or ninety-nine points that might 
legally be pleaded in behalf of some one else. 
The historical illustTation of the expression 
w-ill be found in the next issue of the ' Dic- 
tionary/ in which * Point ' will form one of 
the important articles. 

J. A. H, Murray. 

We mvist request c;orresi>oiiiti''nt9 desiring in- 
fornifttion on fftmily matt'ersof *nily ]iriviitti iut-ereat 
to affix their nanies and addre(*Hf» to thuir queries, 
in order that answers may be eeut to tUera direct. 

MoKAMiiEDAMisM IN Japan.— In "The 
Encyclopaedia Britannica,' art. ' Sunnites 
and* Shi^itea ' (vol. xxii. p. 059), Japan is 
included among the countries over which 
the reUgion of Mohammed is more or less 
spread. AUo in Major-General Forlong's 
' Short Studies in the Science of Comparative 
ReUgions,' 1897, p. 469, we find Japan with 
China and the adjacent islandn stated to 
contain thirty millions of Mohammedans. 
I desire to be infomnvl of any authoritative 
report or observation upon which these 
statements are reasonably founded. ^ 

TaiiaU', Kii, Jrt|»un. 


NOTES AND QUERIES. Iios. vn Mxiwis^w 

Scott's * Black Dwarf/ — Can any of 
your readers tell me where the original 
autograph MS. of Sir Walter Scott'n * Black 
Dwarf ' is now to be found ? Elshi£. 

Sajiuel Barnakd. — I shall be glad if any 
reader of * N. & Q.' can oblige me witli 
partictdars of the ancestord of Samuel 
Barnard, a merchant in London, and a 
major in th»? Honourable Artillery Company, 
to wliich he beIonge<l for about half a century, 
and I believe till his death. Ho died about 
fifty years ago. B. R. Thornton. 

(iranville Lwljfe, Brighton. 

Chesterfield and Wotton Portraits. — 
The Jw*cond son of Katherine Wotton and of 
Henry Stanhope — Philip, seoond Earl of 
Chesterfield (1633-1713)— had liis portrait 
painted by Lely, So had PhiUp's second 
wife, EUzabeth Butler (1640-65). May I 
be told the whereabouts of the original 
picturea ? 

I should also be exceedingly Rratefvil for 
any information as to the portrait of Ed- 
Vrard, Lord W^otton, which used to hang in 
the ** howal " at Borton Malherbe, the home 
in Kent. Mabel E. Wotton. 

36j Buckinjchani Uate, S.W, 

"Bat Bearaway."— W^hy ia the bat 
frequently caUetl bat bearaway T An edu- 
cated perBon has told me that he tliought 
the name had arisen from a folk-belief that 
bats had once upon a time been human 
souls, or that they were creatures whose 
emplojTnent it was to carrj'' away the aoula 
of the departed. Is there any evidence tliat 
such an opinion waa ever prevalent T 

Edward Peacock. 

" Idle Dick Norton." — I am anxious to 
obtain the pedigree of Col. Richard Norton, 
of the Parliament army, wliom Cromwell 
addressed as " Dear Dick." speaking of him 
elsewhere as " idle Dick Norton." A writer 
in Hampshire Notes and Queries (vol. ii. 
p. 108) says he was Governor of South- 
ampton in 1644, and was styled by Mcrcurius 
AnlicHS " The great incendiary of Hamp- 
shire." He also says that Richard Norton 
was a relative of S*ir Gregory Norton, one 
of the judges of Charles I.» and a brother 
of the Captain Lieutenant Norton who, 
fighting on the King's side, was captured 
at Romsey by Major Mitford. Col. Norton 
It veil at old Alreeford Manor House, and 
was a scion of the Nortons of RothorHeUl. 
1 shall be much obliged for the pedigree of 
idle Dick, and also to learn who was the 
Honor, daughter of Col. Norton, who 
married Sir John St. Barbe, of Broadlanda. 

There was an Anne "N'orton bohtd •* 
Wellow, Hampshire, 22 l>ec.. 16W. 1» 
the registers she is atylcjrJ the Lttdv Anor 
Norton, widow. TViere wa« also a VVxlBio 
Norton bm-ied 9 Jan.. 1695/6. Tr»diiiM 
assigns a farm-house at Wellow as the «•• 
dence of one of the regicides. 

(Mrs.) F. H. 8UCKXJ3W. 
Highwood, Romsey, HantA. 

Cathay. — Wliat is the origin of ihis uMot 
for Cliina ; and how ia it pronoumsed 1 T)it» 
is a street in Bristol of tlie B«aie IMlMir ^ 
pronounced Cat-hay. which AMevman B*- 
ker, the antiquary, holds wan so ^tyWd 1»5 
Bristol nierehants who traded with Ctwifc 
This seems impossible, especially as 11m«» 
are other streets with a similar ending. •««* 
as Pithay (Pit-hay). It would be lu»*»** 
ing to know the true origin of both namca 
EvAOUSTKs A. Pimwni. 

9, Tithing, Worceater, 

[B. E. Smith's * C^'olopiedia of N ^t^ 

*' Cathay (ka-tha). The nuriie uiven 1 i *' 

to II retfuui in eoKteni Asin, w-i- •--,...! ' n 

Uhirm 'The IVrsinii i' *] form of Kittii, i« ^m ' ' ■ 

Hlter^^il fr<jm Ki-fah, the race \\li •«> 

China in tbe tenth century, stul « 
to the iKMjjiilu it deaitfuated ' l\\ .i. ....,,-. . . ufc 
Kingdom,' i. 4)."j 

Dkum-Majok: John Tip t ^- tV 
foot of p. 396. vol. ii, of ' Th 
by Sibbald Scott, 1808, meni^.^^n »-» m..~*v J' 
" n hrochiire by .1. B., entitled ' Mar» hi* TrinnjA. 

or the DeHcriptiuu of an F^ -" >.,.,^f,.--.... i ti» 

xviii of (kitolier, 1(W8, in M '^ 

by wrtnin gentltmen of ' ifc 

London.' " 
Who was this J. B. t 

1 possess a brochure entitltsA •<♦ 

Thanksgiving/ London, 1642 e 

tains a letter to '* John Bibie, i c 

for the Tower and Citie of Loi a 

this be the J. B. ? Any infonimt i-.n »i^jA 
Bibie would be welcome. 

What is the date of the dr«Tv "---^"^ 
'* chariot of state " in the Ttp * 

said to have been drawn by :.._ lutt 
horses, at the head of the artillery Ifti* 
when on a march. 

What is the earliest' date for aa Bo^^ 
drum-major ? Robert Barrot (1608) m^M 
a great deal abroad, with troopa bclongiit 
to many different nations, and 1 dn ft^ 
know if the mention of a diu ^* 

' Theorike and Practike of M >' 

refers to an English drum-iiiajor ar i^' • 
foreign one. W. ^ 

HE^^:TT or Checkbiw, Bucica,— ib^ 
Revett, quoted in ' Lottera aful .Juuro** 

IF m 

M^ra 2. 1907.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

ivy Coke,' ed. Hon. J. A. Home, 

J the Priuceas Amelia's servants, 
IchiJd of Oliver Cromwell (iii. 110), 
it-note stated to be the wife of Jolrn 
\ Checkers, Bucks, 

^ beinic John Russell, 3rd son of Sir John 

jTl,, of Chipijonhttm, who m. Frances. 

|iL of Oliver Cromwell, and widow of 

blmrt Ri«h/' 

reader of ' N. & Q.* state to what 
of the family of Kevett or Rivett 
levett, of Checkers, belonged ; alao 
r Col. Georff© Revett, killed at Mal- 
. was of tiiis latter family t The 
5ir Thomas Kevett, Kt., of Chippen- 
!0. Cambridge, tenninatod in lieir- 


■rative Club, St. James's Street, 8. W. 


HOULD HAVE ? " — Can any of your 
t«ll me where 1 can find the ballad 
■bib with these words ? The story 
He of our Norman kings (I forget 
^feeing a great feuded lord— an 
Hb, 1 tliink — sweep by with his 
■exclaimed, *' What wants that 
that a king should have ? " words 
became the first line of the ballad 
iahtofind. G. G. G. 

[-Caps pxtt on Humax Heads and 
Pise. — I find in the text of a modern 
note the following reference to 

1 atrocity : — 

pt ' ' !* tinh reader should not 
fthv <if d>'nannte is thc^quint- 

ij more tlian tho igniting 
trnpa uiKjii the iivads of Irish insurKeiit^ iti 
I tho quint*JMence of Britiah militariam 

Er. DjmanQJto has been extiloded by 
»nd pitxihcsps have been ignited by 

e special reasons for thinking that 
» about pitch-caps and their being 
b Ml absolute falsehood, like many 
l^fOdB about the Irish rebellion of 
ich Cruikshank illustrated with such 
ol force. Nevertheless, not being 
mt, I should like to know on what 
y the legend has been founded. 

OF QpoTATioN Wanted.— The ' 
exACt wording of the following 

•<{ chivaln liiit I say 

nut «^»iM> V remnitiH 

triiuvj And u innn wiiu \\ ill Any, ' I 
' i riKht.. or t\ui in the nttcm|it.' " 

C'arlyle are in my tlioughtn ; 
ated them in vain. 

H. Wells Bladkn. 

TAlN*s SUPHEMACY OF THE Sea. — The date 
is wanted of the occasion on which the 
words printed below were spoken by the 
present Prime Minister. They occur in a 
speech some time before 1898 : — 

*' I accept in fallest and most eomplet* form the 
doctrine that it is necessary for this o<nintry to bold 
the Hupremaoy of the sean. I ftCcoi)t the doctrine of 
standard of sunremacy that our fleet tthoitid tMiual 
any two other fleets in'the world" 

w. c. c. 

Carte, the Historian. — I should be 
obliged to any of your readers for infor- 
mation respecting the ancestry and birth- 
place of Carte, the historian, whose ' Life of 
the Great Duke of Ormonde ' was published 
in 1739. F. Godfery. 

2, Morton Crescent, Exmoiith. 

|CArt«s was bom at Clifton - ujion - Dtmamoor, 
W arwickBhire. Hoe tho Uvea of him and his father 
ill the * D.N.B.'] 

Pretended Prince of Macedonia. — 
Can any one put nie on the track of infor- 
mation aa to a certain Gio. Andrea Angelo 
Flavio, calling hiinaelf Prince of Macedonia. 
who appeared in Italy about 1605, and dis- 
tributed titlea of nobility and crosses of the 
Order of St. George ? R. Steele. 

Sava^'e Club, I. : his Physical Character- 
istics. — In Tlie Oenthmans Magazine for 
October last there is a notice of ' The Heads- 
man of Whitehall,' by Philip Sidney. The 
\mter of the article, who seems scarcely 
to allow for the fact that all contemporary 
atatenients are not of emial value to the 
historian, makes the following remark 
among some others which give the reader 
pause : — 

"Fiir from l>einK the ideal and pictiireftiue 
cavalier of that rnitent wizard Antonio van iHck, 
Charles favoure*! his father, the sandy and Hlobber- 
ing James, as nmoh as Charles IL favoured his 
What is the authority for this assertion 7 

The •' potent wizard " could have no 
reason to indulge in childish misrepresenta- 
tion. An artist of genius can paint a striking 
portrait of nearly any type of face, except 
that of the *' successful soap-boiler." 

There is a fine representation of the 
" sandy and slobbering " James in the col- 
lection' of historical portraits in the chateau 
of Azay-le-Rideau. Lout as ho was, a painter 
with insight, could still produce a vivid and 
yet satisfactory portrait of him. 

What contemporaries of the two men 
recorded that Charles L closely resembled 
liis father ? And what did Ibo aB»st\:voT2k. 


NOtfiS AND QTJICRIES. iv> s. vu. mabch t, n 

sig^ify ? Did it jnemi that he was a repUca 
of James in features Bud colouring, or that 
there was merely the strong family likeness 
between them which may exiftt» and not 
infrequently does exists between an ugly 
and a hanc^ome man T 

A querist writing in the IrUeTmidiaire^ 
20 Octobre. 1906, saya z— 

"Le veri table Charles I"".— J'ai lu rtk-enmient, 
d&ua wne revue, ijue Van-Dyok avait touumra pluB 
ou moiite embi^llL ^a mod<^le^. Ji: m'eu ugutoia ui] 
pea et a! tpajonra pens^ i|u« le^ mid^ijji dti leurtt 
ountemporaJiiHr stiriout de leurs con tern jxxnimert, 
que nona ont l&ies^« oertfliitia ni&!trt:», iHJitrraieiit 
Dion It™ de belle* inlicli'les. MaIs ratit<;ur ajuut^i! 
<iuo k piucenu de Van-Dyck a traiiformiS en uii 
^^H«nt jBiitilhomme juaqu^ji ce ' gucinie ^ <1« 

poser ne^-ly so much as literary gecuoa 
m the family of a great writer, I 1 
that this may be accounted for by 
fact that composers do not marry, c 
the fact that whcm married they haw 
Bmall families. Can any of your EC 
cite an instance to the contrary T 


..„ „ J jUaqtlL __ e,„_,..- 

Chiirle* I", terme <|ui me aurjirend, ftppljijiai?, au 
Vwtit-fib de Mftrie'Stuart> tandm iiu'il convieiidrait 
liaHaitement au iiauvre Charles IL d'Eiiiagncj, 

" Pour le roi ant^laid, jai accepu^ juaqu^a. i»rt?»ent 
Ic tyije cxtnaacr^ iiar mwuts orimnaux de Vaa* 
Dyck, un oorjia droit et souple d© gentilhomme 
ohMBBur surmoiit^ d'une tOte an loiij^ visage, dotit 
rexpreftflton eat rUL^ta^Lcoliiuiti et haut4>, mnu ((u'on 
V deiujfle oette fauBst'Ui <iui oauaa en i^ando [mrtie 
leB lunlheurs du aecotkd dea ijuatre Stu&rts. 

"Quel etait dcnic au physinue k v^ritabk 
Charles I"? H. C. M." 

Ko doubt an artist who intends to he 
patronized by the world of fashion in any 
age accentuatef3 to some degree the better 
traits in a face, and softens the effect of those 
which are unsatisfactory. Nevertheless, he 
has to keep liia work like the sitter, or the 
sitter's vanity will take up amis. He wants 
a portrait of his own admirable self, not an 
entirely fancy picture. 

Readers of La Fontaine's fables will 
recoUeet that when Jupiter called all the 
animals together, that each might say 
whether anything needed altering in its 
appearance, he aaked the Bpe» ** Are you 
satisfied ? *' and received the an&wett '* Why 
not t " The ape pitied the bear, the bear 
the elephant, the elephant the whale, the 
ant the mite. Every one of them was 
critical enough of others, but pleased with 

Had Charles I. been a ** gnome," what 
satisfaction could it have been to acquire 
a aeries of portraits which represent an 
entirely different type T C. E. 

Napoleon's CASBtAGE.—I wish to ascer- 
tain what British regiment it was that 
captured Napoleon's travelling carriage 
after he had left it in his flight from Waterloo. 

J. N. 

Musical Genids t is it HEREDirABY ? — 
I have noticed a peculiarity in musical 
genius in that it does not seera to show 
itsdf in the family of a great musicd com- 



(10 S. vii, 108.) 

T«EBE is no '* foreign " pronunciati 
Latin. There is a French pronunci 
a German pronunciation^ a Spanish, s 
Italian ; and tliey are all very mah 
different- I doubt whether the Pope 
(at least witliout difficulty) understat 
Gospel as read either in Paris or in Mi 
But all these pronunciations agree n 
with respect to certain, though bv no 
all, vowel-sounds. They also all ag 
fiot pronouncing c like k before e and i. 
In Roman churches in England the ] 
pronunciation is naturally adopted. 

Is not Mjt. Sthono overlooking th 
bability that English pronunciation of I 
changed between 1500 and 1600, am 
it En^lisli pronunciation of Latin, bu 
with it ? I should assume that Moi 
Colet pronounced ttie English word " n 
much as the French word '* nature " 
pronounced ; but that Cory at approxi 
to our niodcrn English pronunc 
*' Natura " would foUow " natuTEi,^ 
consequently by 1600 there would 
much greater divergency between i 
Latin and any kind of foreign Latii 
there wa^ in 1500. 

Is there not something in Mulcaste 
ing on this, and tending to show that 1 
Latin resisted for a little time the in 
of the vernacular ? 

May I take this occasion of exp 
nay cordial detestation of the i^t 
change ? It is thoroughly unbis 
ignormg in particular English bistOQi 
it treat^j Latin as a dead language, 
over, it w^ill work havoc with words t 
from the Latin. Already I have 
" minnua " [—) : I expect " ploooe 
soon. R. Johnson Wai 

Littk Holland House, Keiiaiugtun, W. 

I hove often tried to get people to 
stand that Latin, in En^and, was dfl 

viL uuum 2. iwT] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

^H •> *he same way as the ounrent 
ue period. Tliat is all. 
_._,.,. u.,u Latin was pronouooed in 
^Saxon and Pearly Engli^li tiroes nee^ly 
the old classicBl way, for the plain 
on that tiie Old English vowels were 
oimced (roughly ^peakiDg) in the modem 
m manner. And these soundfi lasted, 
/ of thetn, down to the time of Erasmus 
iater : so tliat Latin in those days, if 
Dunced in the same way as the English 
s period, would be reasonably intelligible 
► a foreigner. Moat of the violent changes 
Ihe sounds of English vowels are quite 
The subject of phonetics is very 
Mo for general discussion ; let those 
)i to know more consuJt Sweet's 
uiy of English Sounds * or the valuable 
ook by Wvld entitled * The Historical 
I of Um Mother Tongue.' 

WAX.TER W. Skeat. 

state* positively that in my Eton 

-fifty -five or more years ago— the 

ciation of Latin was English-wise, 

alian : f..g., anio would be *' eh-mo," 

[would be ** mew (moo)-sa," and bo on. 

ave, however, been told since that thia 

I changed. 

Edward P. Woufebstan. 
Untxiln's Inn Fields. 

Ilhe views of Coryat and Milton on this 
Set. adduced by Mb. Strong , may be 
ocd that of Sir Walt-er Scott, who wrote 
on, with his characteristic good sense, 
ihis • Journal,* midor date 25 Jan., 1827 :— 

..It. ,lnr,n.. tl,.- v.,...- . A ^^ f ,:ht iinfl a 

of I^tiii 
4 conolu- 
I iroved l»v 
1 by all 

iu-i...,, A in sound, 

in, find other lAiiguaueK 

•ortfiinlv the tiest, and i.m 

li sit ion of 

!*■ in vain. 

, tlant who 

■ on frjr amo, and quy 

l>^ iipt. But thf <|ue«- 

' j' ill a 

\y Jaud 

\i ' . " ■ - , ..-. i__-Lui at 

•i;nHt*; ; unii if \w in. to Iw unjn- 

rtim, thf ifUMtion rariw«] whether 

TT-' •-■• ^''-■- '. .I, : ,, . -I ,, ,.(a„t 
_l '/«/»• 

hi nilile 

- wliilt we eita keep an 

iti}.'. But tliiN JH a ques- 

i4t^I not <m partiuUties oi- 

M tlio f r.rrect pronunciation ? 

^ at a public school 

Ithr *f a new head master. 

.". ,1. 

came the ** new " pronunciation ; and I 
found a year of this exceedingly trouble- 
some, aft€r having learnt Latin for eight 
or nine years in the older way. We were 
taught to pronounce the c and g hard, and 
the V as w, &c., and thia was certainly not 
the pronunciation I heard Utely at a Cathobc 
funeral, where the priest pronounced the 
c and g as in Italian. K. L. Mobeton. 

Spelling Changes (10 S. vi. 403, 450, 
493 ; vii. 51). — There is lu'gent need of 
reform. There are signs that a divergence 
between the language of England and 
America is to be feared. For English and 
American to becomt* as different as Spanish 
and Portuguese would be a real calanuty to 
the world, a real check to civilization. 

The philologists all agree that spelling 
reform would be a great benefit. The 
philologists of the future will want to know, 
not our rather vain speculation as to the 
origin or ctjTraology of our words, but how 
the best-educated "people of our time pro- 
noimced them. 

As far as 1 know, all reasonable persona 
who have given at all careful attention to 
this subject admit that spelling reform is 
desirable. But I tliink most of those are 
deterred from putting this opinion into 
action from the contemplation of the vast 
difficulties in the way. I admit that the 
difficulties are vast, but I inchne to think 
that the greatest difficulty of all has now 
been overcome by Praiident Roosevelt, viz., 
the want of an authoritative start. 

I have had difficulty in getting the list 
of 300 simpUfied spellmgs suggested by hia 
learned council. Tlie pamphlet of 57 page*^ 
(very readable), the booklet, and the card 
can, I believe, be got by any one who will 
apply for copies to the Simplified Spelling 
Board, 1, Madison Avenue, New York City. 

At first I was inclined to reject this board's 
suggestion to write theater^ epecter, ctnter, 
meter, &c., for tfieatre, »pecire, centre, metre. 
MeUr^ for gas meter, e.g., is by far the 
commoner spelling in the current English 
of the mother country. I see Prof. Skeat 
in the last edition of his * Concise EnglLsli I 
Etymological Dictionary ' has metre, meter, 
as alternative. This raises the very difficult 
question of horaophonea. 1, with trembling, 
advocate the distinction of homophones j,| 
e.g., cheq, to denote one special kind of cheeky 
seems to me certainly useful. So I think 
we should make the reading of English more 
difficult if we confused to, too, and two. 
Engliali is so much more complex than an^ 



Other of the grt>ftt languages that we can 
never expect itrt sijelUng to be quite 8o easy 
and simple and regular as that of Italian 
OP even German. Our spelling will perhapt* 
always be a compromise between phonetic 
and etyraolo^ ; but it certainly ought to 
be more rationally compounded of theae 
two elements. 

It is singular that though all the European 
tongues distinguish voiced from unvoiced 
consonants, Ln most cases thus, / from d, 
p from 6. k from g, f from ir. they none of 
them clearly distinguish voiced and un- 
voiced sibilants. Thus so we English pro- 
nomice with 8 unvoiced, but the Germans 
with 6 voiced. We write w, hie, bids, &e., 
9 voiced ; but if*, ships, bricks^ s unvoiced. 
T. Wilson, B.A.Lond. 

Why it^trd {ante, p. 52) at all ? Why 
not waster f At all events, ivastrel is de- 
fined in Ogilvie'a ' Dictionarj-,' not as the 
instrument, but aa the slate of waste, and 
BubatantivaOy as *' wasto aubstances." 


Authors of Quotations Wanted (10 S- 
vii. 69). — Prof. Lauohton will find the 
*^ old ballad " he is in quest of in D'Urfey's 
* Pills to jnirge Melancholy,' vol. iij. p. 210 
of reprint of 1719 edition. J. H. K. 

Duke of Kent's Chii.dben (10 S. -vii. 
48, 115). — After the death of the Princess 
Charlotte, the Government of the day in- 
sisting upon the marriage of the bachelor 
brothers of the Regent, it b known that the 
Duke of Kent demurred from complying 
with their wishes, unless some prox-ision 
were first nrade out of the public fimds for 
Madame de St. Laurent. I think that a 
letter from him to Lord Liverpool upon the 
subject was printed in Creevey's raomoirs, 
and no mention is therein made by H.R.H. 
of any children. As the Duke's plea for a 
separate income being granted would have 
been much strengthened in the event of 
isAue, it is probably safe to assume that 
none had been born, or at all events none 
8ur\'ived in the year 1816. But the nick- 
name of "* Joseph Surface," given to the 
Duke of Kent by his royal brothers, implies 
that in matters of morality hia standard 
was no higher, though more discreet, than 

The task of detailing the amount, and of 
tracing the left - handed descendants, of 
George lll.'s children would be considerable, 
and probably unprofitable in view of the 
old proverb, " A wise child," Ac. Aa 

regards Iving George IV., tli 
of tlie work describing » 
adventures in Italy and eiKi^wht-te, _ 
translated into English, has broached^ 
curious theory, which is certainly 
borated by the fact that none ol 
monarch's numerous mistresses wM 
kno>*'n to bear him ofla|>ring. It i« j 
that Grace Dalrj'niple Elliott, distingui 
in the gay world as ** Dally the Tall," i 
birth to & daughter whose parenta^ i 
sometimes attributed to the then Pnna 
Wales ; but the lady's adiniren* werej 
few, and the ctrciunstance can hafdlg 
said to contradict the fact above stated.J 

Your correspondents may find 
interesting particulars concerning the clj 
of Edward, Duke of Kent, in his *! 
by the Rev. Erskine Neale, rector of Ki^ 
Suffolk (an adjacent parish to Newbotf 
subsequently vicar of Exning, n«ar 
market. Prefixed to this laboured 
gyric is a portrait of the Duke " f r 
picture by G. Dawe, R.A., in the ]p 
sion of H.R.H. the Duchess of Kent,* 
likeness to her late Majesty Queen \1 
is striking. 

In the preface, p. xv, occurs the folio 

tribute to ' N. & Q.,' then in its infancy 1 

•' May I w>iy-t> thia opportaity of naniinK »J 

j»eri<jdical, XoteM and QuerUs. »r a ni«»sl ae^ 

nuxlo of iut«rconiinunic(atioii for literary it\en\ 


Newboume Rectory, Woodbridge. 

Perha|>8 I may be allowed to aupole 
my former reply by saying that much i 
Madame de St. Laurent is to be fouB 
' The Life of the Duke of Kent illust 
by his CoiTespondence with the De 
berry Family/ by Dr. W. J. And 
(Toronto, Hunter, Rose & Co.. 1870). 
.A.nderson assures ua that she waa 
amiable lady who possessed to the fd 
extent the Duke's confidence, eateera,^ 
affection, and shared hia joys and 
rows. These virtues gained for herl 
favour of the Bishop of Quebec, the Br 
of Nova Scotia, and the leading resi^ 
of Halifax, except tlwee : Chief j% 
Blowers ; Foster Hutchinson, a 
the laat royal Governor of Mai 
Bay ; and Col. Kearney, of the Nc 
Regiment. The last two experie 
just indignation and that of the Di 
name, Julia, was the one most often git 
girls bom at Halifax while she wi 
Col. Landmann in his * Recolleoti| 
scribes an evening party at Halifa 

t viL iiAi^.1. 2, 1907] NOTES AND QUERIES. 


the Duke >iang a duet, Bwfore 

1819, she had retired to a consent, 

ling lo Dr. Aiiderfton, and doabtless 

ill the odour of sanctity. Tradi- 

ibe* iwT a« small, dark, and hand- 

1 «a having a hasty temper, under 

o( which she was known to go 

^ikrdcn and tear up flowers. But 

k danger of severe punishment, who 

to her, were pardoned through her 

? with the Duke. M. N. G. 

.J Mb. Peet give any ground or autho- 

for the extraordinary report that 

''nee Kent's father was a son of the 

The fact tliat he and moat of his 

^ bore the Cliri^tian name of Sa\nll. 

jlOttt therefore be presumed to have 

ected with a family of that name, 

* againat thi». since, if he had been 

p, it is unlikely that the memor>' 

'xion on his mother's side would 

preeer^'ed in this way. On the 

band, ihmte are facts which, taken in 
ation, point to a French connexion : 
j_wtAnce 8 second name was Emilie ; 
► and her brother ran away from home 
J ages of twelve and eleven, with the 
iion of going abroad ; (3) aft^r the 
"T she was sent to a convent in France. 
might be adduced in support of a 
J that lier father was non of Madame 
[Laurent ; and a^ he died 5 Feb., 1872, 
lieventy, and wan therefore bom in 
t, this ia not inconsistent with the 
rnt of M. N. G. that the ladv had no 
I down to August, 1800. " B, 

bwr Boxes (10 S. vi. 389, 453, 475 ; vii. 
In Th* llluHtratid Timf^, vol. i. p. 452 
Deo., 1855 — are two pictures: one of 
JldoM Letter Post,' the other of a " Paris 
\ Po«t.' The former is square (? five 
b) and ver>' pUin ; there ib a ball on 
^, springing from a simple ornament 
Th«' latter is round, ornate, and 
jler, but of much le«s diameter. 
ICC* of the former is " Post Office 
„.X No, 2. miles 7 furlonga 178 
JiOm General Post Office.'" On 
' " fa«^e is a hanging flap 
; below ia a long inscrip- 
Hj;iii,: L»«tter Box," but the rest 
On the French pillar are the 
*" -Tx Iettre«," "Service de» 
f'icture a potttman stands 

l-< ^am9 an article on ' London 

. r Po«trt and Letter Carriers.' 

r posts " an an im- 

' rom the French. It 

calls them *' cast-iron * letter posts,* or, 
more properly, " postal pillar^,' recently 
erected as succursaU to the old receiving 
houses." It asks : — 

"Why must everything English, to be useful, ho 

hideous? S^iuat, dwHrftd, Hiid clunmy in form, 

they remind us of nothing so ranch a* uue of Doctor 
j\rnott"s stovuH that has J>im»h kIvch over to a bill*. 

sticker .-I'be top of the ]>illur, cnf»ital we cannot ] 

cftU it, in. tinifihed off by a circular knob, soniethini^ 
between a eftnnon-l>alf and the blazing fireone on 
the mimmit of the njoniiment. I« not thi« Icnnly 

Erovided with « view to the binrlrance of the Jitreet 
L>yH in their nuieh-lteloved gnme of leait-frog. and 
to fjrevont their •overiuif it'? It is certainly a.s 
eUxiiiently suKK^stive of such an intention as thtr 
«ron-si>iked |>osta in Burton Cresoent." 
It flisks why a postal pillar should have been* 
erected at the corner of Norfolk Street, 
Strand, where a post office already existed. 

It says that the first postal pillar erected 
in Paris was the one on the Pont Neuf. 

The two postmen in the pictures wear tall' 
hats. The Frenchman's is of sugarloaf 
shape, with a cockade or some mark like one. 
The colours of the pillars are not mentioned. 

In The Illustrated Times, voL iv. p. 397 1 
(*20 June, 1857), L* the following : — 

'*The last few week?" ha."* [-»»>] ?st'fn the removal of 
moat of the ugly-lookiiiij letter-jiOMti* whirh about 
a coujile of years ag<.i were set uj* in the streets of 
the meti-0|mhfl. Theae have given ]»lflce to a more- 
ta!*tofiilly-shai»ed Hubstitute, an ennravinu:of which 
will lie found on the ffresent i»ftt/;e. Mr. A. (.'ooper,, 
V.E., of (Jreftt Cieorge .Street, we underntancL 
MUjnilied the constructional dertijxn, and Mr. VV. J, 
Will?*, we l>elieve, auirt?rintended the ornamenta- 
tion of it. The |»lati of the pillar is* a hexagon, and 
the top has a UHtjful little article in the .sha(»e of the ^ 
comiMUW let into the »urface. The sitace this letter- 
pOHt oecu|»iefl \n niucb lam than that tilled by its 
predecefwor ; and so far as the matter of ta.<<te i» 
concerned, the change is one which must meet with 
public ajtjirovaL" 

The pillar in the accompanying print has a- 
festoon of flowers hanging — from, appa- 
rently, small human faces— down each aide 
of the hexagon to about the middle of the 
pillar. The angles are decorated, and there 
are ornamental bands — two near the top- 
and two near the foot. The only visible 
inscription Ls " V.K." Beside the pillar 
stands a gentleman of the period with a 
letter in his hand. The colour of the paint 
Is not mentioned. Robert Pierpoint. 

" Ito " : " Itolxnd '* (10 S. vi. 461 ; vii. 
12, 93). — I do not purpose entering into a 
discussion with Mr. Breslar as to the merit* 
or demerits of the " Ito " movement ; but it 
would be imjust to the .Jewish community 
if from his statements it wan supposed they 
are in sympathy with this unorthodox 
Zionism, or that they believe tVievc -weVliwcfe \a 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [los. vn. MABci2,un. 

likely to be advanced by such or^anizera. 
Great philanthropically aided migrations 
from persecution m Russia to the personal 
liberty of North or South America have 
occurred, and are likely to be organized so 
long as the occasion continues. But this 
•does not provide autonomy, nor can the 
word *' territorialist " be applied to the 
•director of such a movement or . its par- 

Mb. Bbeslar's phrases are peculiarly his 
own ; his views are confined to a few ; and 
the movement he acclaims has the support 
only of a class unfamiliar with Kussia and 
the aims or requirements of the prospective 
emigrant. Aleck Abrahams. 

39, Hillmartoii Koad, N. 
[We cannot insert any more on this subject.] 

Bell-Horses : Pack-Hgrses (10 S. vi. 
469; vii. 33, 110).— In * Notes on Spanish 
Amulets,* in Folk-lore, xvii. 461, it is said 

■*• small bells are in common use, fre<|ueutly with 
■other aniuletic obiecta. Practically every horse, 
mule, or donkey in Si»ain wears a bell, however tiny 
and feeble it may be, not necessarily, perhaiM, as an 
Acknowledged itroteotiou, but certainly as a con- 
•cession to some once universal custom. To many 
•children's amulets, also, there are little bells 
■attached. It is fair to assume that the sound of 
these bells, as amongst the ancient Romans and the 
modern Italians, was formerly intended to keep the 
wearer from witchcraft and fascination." 

G. W. 

Perhaps I may be allowed to add a note 
or two to Dr. Brushfield's interesting 
paper. We have here a dealer in antiquities 
whose keen observation and retentive 
memory make him a trustworthy guide, 
«nd if anytliing is ploughed or dug up in 
this neighbourliood, it usually finds its way 
to his nands. He well remembers pack- 
horses coming into the city by North Gate, 
bringing in com from coimtry farms. They 
were decorated with bells hung on frames, 
AS described arUe, p. 33, tlie first horse 
having three bells, the second four, and the 
third five, the bells being of varying sizes 
.and harmonizing well. The man showed 
jne a large spherical horse-bell of bronze, 
"9 in. in circumference, attached by an iron 
ring to a staple, welded into a leather 
collar, which must have hung round the 
horse's neck. The width of tlie collar is 
nearly 2 in. The bell has two roimd holes 
jabove, and a wide aperture beneath. A 
•detached iron ball inside sounds at every 
movement. My friend called this bell a 
''* rumbler," a word which I fail to find in the 
dialect dictionaries. Beneath the narrow 

band which encircles the centre of thft belt 
the metal is finely chased, and on ebSbet 
of the slit are the letters W. R. (? WF 
Rex, i.e., William m.). Three smdQ 
of similar construction were ploug^ied up m 
a hill-farm near Lavant last Deoemta 
Their circumference ia 3 in. They do ai 
exactly match (externally), but their iifll 
is the same. Cow- and sheep-bells made I 
sheet iron, just like the old imsh bdls, ivii 
used on the Downs here not Ions ago. Tb^ 
vary a little in size and wei^t, but I 
generally about 7 in. in height by 15 in. 
circumference. St. Fatoick's belt as iDl 
trated in Smith and Cheetham's *Di» 
of Christian Antiquities,* is almost a diti 
of the typical cow-bell of Sussex. Soi 
interesting notice of bells attached 
animals are to be found in Magius, '] 
Tintinnabulis,* Amsteltedami, 1689. Thii 
a scarce little book, but it is reprinted, «i 
its illustrations, in the second volumt 
De Sallengre's folio 'Thesaurus of Roa( 
Antiquities,' as also is Angelo BoM 
interesting treatise * De Campanis,' dell 
with the antiquities of church oeUs. Fini 
Dr. George Stephens (* Handbook of Bd 
Ornaments,' ed. 1884, p. 183) figures I 
describes two Swedish bracteates irU 
have a rudely designed horse in their cenl 
with something on his back which o 
be intended for a crate or crook, ftj 
Stephens deciphers the inscription hhiisAM 

UIG-'E ALTE-UIIi^EA TUa.JEX>\J (Hls^wig fl 

Alte-Uilse made this). The first nsfll 
lie says, means lade-wigg, " pack-hoMj 
" carrying-nag," and is the goldsmiw 
rebus-play on his own name. 

Cecii. Deedes. 

' Lawyebs in Love * (10 S. vii. 90).? 
This novel was by W. J. N. Neale (18U 
1893), a notice of whom will be found in 4 
'D.N.B.' Neale was never included 1 
' Men of the Time,' a much less useful 1 
than the one that has supplanted 
namely, 'Who's Who.' Further infon 
tion about his family will be found in Fo 
'Men at the Beur,' 1885, one of the 
useful books I have. 

In early life Neale wrote a number < 
novels, nearly all naval'and mostly'' ano 
My only authority for saying the 
work is his is that it is put under his oMI 
in * The London Catalogue, 1816-51,' fi 
ui ' The English Catalogue,' with the m 
1844. It is not included in the list oCj 
works in the ' D.N.B.'; but there is no dOi| 
it is by him. 

viL Mawch 2. 19070 NOTES AND QUERIES. 


, who knew Neale well, told me 

«Tr of being able simultaneously 

Lo several writers and to talk to 

rlue. wliich 1 ahvayn thought must 

quick work. Ralph Thomas. 

Ikvrvpm in Love,* by the author of 
fCapt. \X. Johnson Neale), 
8vo, was published by Coch- 
i?»44, price 31*. 6d. 

Alfred Sydn-ey Lewis. 

m' Wyatvtlle (10 S. vii, 
Montagu Square, 27 Jan., 
John B. Waikewmght. 

.- 1 >tv fins) rest" (10 S. vL 609 ; 
I).— Aft this expreaaion, very common 
"150, ia Btat^MJ b\^ several of your 
ienta Uj be obsolete, and ia marked 
' The (Vntury Dictionary,' may 
awed to point out that it still lingers 
use T Here are some examples 
i supplement those given in Nares's 

MSS.,' iv. part i. col. 352 (Oxf., 1893), 
appc^ars to show that the marriage took 
place at the end of 1640 or beginning of 
1(>41. It describes a part of the contents 
of MS. D. 559 :— 

•* • Copie d'nne lettre ©florite au tres-rev. pt^re 

Jat'oJx> Usserio, areheve^iup d'Armaohoai, jiar 
Ludov. de Dieii; Leyden, 17 Nov., ItMO.* On l>ehalf 
of the aieur Heenvfiet (son of the j>rofe*«Hor Poly- 
anclyr) and hiH ^►rofMwod inarrifttje with Lady 
Staiihojte; corit/vinm^ a, history of the familv ol^ 
Kfroklioven, in reply to rejiresenlations that Hfeen- 
vliet wjw of a vnltoir family and of an obsoare 

W. D. Macray. 

\^me h*vy your 
* Uy aft . a<; ■ ■ 

ur iirayera, iJjat... .1 may not ho 
If I hrlievtMl 1 riiight to «;t uji 
i<l think nothinji furtJit?i- 
orltniilifM jiut into my 
. juiil the boKt of men !^' 
Richwilsnn, * FumTlii,* 'Works' (1883)» 

' '"to you I wiu* in ltvl«in>ris. I 
N"n. 4, Inner Temple Laii*^ 

not unit until 
notlt'o that I 
ng."— 2 Jan.. 

■i' fv 
_jiou of III 
*LA*lfei-» ' I 
Ui ivu^r Lyrha V „l fon„iI her 

a c<nKh, fn«hu .11. ., ;jed. luinlje Ut 
Jcatinjj, imd dyui>f. hJit* him h itood 
lly rt nfoxvi- i.t^^nfTip-p^ \v}t nnhaj/pily. 
'*• ' ■ " sUiff of 

r.*- (itifJO), 

14 kbr (Kannv Ct«!wi«| had Wsittd Wales, 
utily r- - ' ( -■ J vher« now 


I mrv aiijo aruonp my notes references 
»'« ' Diary ' (i. 192) and to Smollett's 
Clinker ' (p. 308) ; but as the 
•re Tint Hvailable. I am unable to 
As occasionally met 
♦ ini*», the expression is 
' of the familiar 
1 >LiTTHEW8. 

hK. Nr ,/ S. dUo tjiaiiki'd for rciily.J 

JKT < M . T .. m r> WOTTOX'S 

The foUouing 
tliM Hawlinson 

' Edixburgh Review ' Attack on Ox- 
ford (10 S. vii. I2g).— In The Kdinburgh 
Review for April» 1810, there is a rejoinder 
to an anonymous pamphlet entitled * A 
Rot>ly to the Cahimnie« of The Edinburgh 
Review against Oxford.* publi.shed in thsi 
same year. The pamphlet was written by* 
Dr. Edward Copleston ; the article in the 
Review was the joint work of Dr. John 
Playfair, Sydney Smith, and Payne Knight. 
From this it appears that the articles which 
had given offence were three. The tirst 
was a review of Laplace's ' M^canique 
C^6le8te ' (Jan., 1808). which was written by 
PVaj'fair. The second was the notice of 
the Oxford edition of Strabo in the Eemew 
for July, 1809. This was written by Payne 
Knight. The tiiird was a review of Edg- 
worth'a ' Easays on Profes-sional Education ' 
(Oct., 1809), which was written by Sydney 
Smith. The authority for the names of 
these contributors to the great Whig 
review is the excellent little monoj^raph 
privately printed by Dv. W. A. Copinger, 
According to the same autliority, only two 
articles are known to be Sir Daniel Sandford's 
in the first fifty volumes. These are a notice 
of MitcheJl'a *' Aristophanes ' (Nov., 1820) 
and of Hahnemann (Jan., 1830). The last 
strikes one as a curious subj&ct for the 
brilliant Professor of (»reek, 

William E. A. Axon, 
[Further i-ejily from Mk. J. P. Onvkn' next week.] 

People to be Avoided or Cultivated 
(10 S. vii. 130).— Mn. Latham will find the 
lines he seeks discussed at 10 S. i. 167, 235, 
277. Lionel Sckank. 

I hope the subjoined extract from The 
South Plate Magazine, for February may be 
of some assistance to Mr. Latham : — 

"The reoeiit Harvoian Oration wa« deliverefl in 
the h«n of the Itoyal t'olle«e ni Physicians by Dr. 
VVilliiim Osier, Kei?>u« Pntfeswor of Me<lioine at 
OxffiNl. Plot, 0!*ler t^Mik u'^ inn suliject 'The 
CJmwtli '>f r.iifh,' tm illustrated hy the luatov^ q\ 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [lo 8. vn. mak.!. i 

Harvey's great daatovery of the ciroulation of the ; 
blood. In the course of an elotiuent addren, "Pnd. . 
Osier made some remarks that are especially inter- | 
esting to us as a society. He said : ' The iron yoke 
of oonfoimity was upon all necks, and in our minds, | 
as in our bodies, the fwce of habit beeame irre- j 
sistible. From our teachers and associates, from 
our reading, from the social atmosi>here about us, 
we caught the beliefs of the day, and they became 
part of our nature. For most of us that happened 
m the haphuard process we called education ; and 
it went on just as long as we retained mental re- 
ceptivity. It was never better expressed than in 
the famous lines which occurred to Henry Sidgwick 
in his sleep : — 

We think so because all other people think so ; 
Or because — or because — after all, we do think so ; 
Or because we were told so, and think we must think 

Or because we once thought so, and think we still 

think so ; 
Or because, having thought so, we think we will 

think so.' " 

Alice M. Puoh. 

[Other corrcsimndents thanked for replies.] 

Slaveky in England (10 S. vii. 149). — 
The heading and the phrase '* slaves in this 
country " suggest that the decision named 
had to do with persons of our race, whereas 
it concerned negro slavery. S. I. E. 

Inquirer wishes to know the supposed 
number of slaves in England in 1772, when 
Lord Mansfield delivered his great judg- 
ment. I had it in my mind that the number 
was 30,000 ; but the impression is hazy, 
and I have failed to verify it. I find, how- 
ever, the following in 'The Liverpool 
Privateers ' (Heinemann), a very interesting 
work giving much attention to the history 
of the Liverpool slave trade : — 

**In 1764 The Oentfemav'M Moffozine estimated 
that there were upwards of 20,000 slaves then domi- 
ciled in London alone, and these slaves were oi)enly 
bought and sold on 'Change."— P. 477. 

Douglas Owen. 

Scott Illustrators (10 S. vii. 10, 74, 
130). — In this interesting list it would be 
unfortunate to omit the beautiful designs 
in the large edition of Firmin Didot, Paris. 
In some respects these excel our home pro- 
ductions. * Quentin Durward * and * Rob 
Boy ' may be specially commended, al- 
though it is amusing in the latter to find 
the nineteenth-centiuy College of Glasgow 
at Gilmorehill represented as the scene of 
the duel between Frank and Kashleigh. 

Robert Duncan. 

House of Commons. 

Surely James Skene (1776-1864) has the 
best claim to be considered the first illus- 
trator of Scott's romances. The * Series of 
Sketches of the Existing Localities alluded to 

in the Waverley Novels,' etched froi 
own drawings, and published at EdinI 
in 1829, are the earliest and most naeJ 
the whole " Scott Gallery." At leMt 
represent a selection only of a veiy 
number of draveings made by Skene xuy 
in Scotland, but during his visit to I 
in 1822. It is said C Life of Scott,' iv 
that his intimate knowledge of that co 
inspired * Quentin Durward * ; anc 
Jewish element in *Ivanhoo* was ] 
due to his suggestion. 

I have in my possession three most 
esting letters from Skene to John 1 
(the bibliographer, 1791-1865). disc 
the latter's proposal to issue a f 
volume of Sketches of * Waverley' 
graphy. Although luipublished, the 
too long to transcribe for these pages 
I shall be pleased to let E. N. G. have 
of them. 

Skene refers to his " Portfolios of '. 
ings," the result of his explorations, 
two of the romances he did not p 
drawings : — 

''You will no doubt have remarked tha 
Antiquary' is omitted in my series. This w 
at the author's suggestion, as he had no ind 
subjects so distinctly in view as to iustif 
being given as localities, and he was aesin 
no ])art of my i>lan should rest upon assnmi 
mere conjectural resemblance. The real a 
the Antitjuary was altogether different fr 
fictitious one, the other subjects of interest 
novel had no identity whatever, and withoi 
leading scenes he did not consider the 
notices as wortli depicting."— Letter of 13 
Here is the second instance : — 

"•The CniKftders' is the only tale in Ui 
series in which I find myself deficient, neve 
been in Palestine, and feeling rather fastit 
to confining my etchings to subjects whic 
myself sketcheil from Nature."— Letter of 

As an intimate friend of Scott, thi 
trator had exceptional facilities to 
the accuracy of his identifications, i 
ability was appreciated by the authc 
said of liim, Skene is, for a gentlem 
best draughtsman I ever saw " (' F 
Letters,' 144, quoted by * D.N.B.'). 
Aleck Abrab 

39, Hillmarton Road, N. 

Charles Reade's Greek Quoi 
Seneca (10 S. vii. 110).— For the 
improving misfortunes into blessings 
het of virtue see Seneca, * Epistles,' 
" Omnia incommoda suo iure bom 
buntur, quae modo virtus honestaven 
Edward Bb 

University College, Aberystwyth. 




W^t'i Wot 




III., VI.. iMici vn. 





rhr first volume* uf h comiileU". 

. rv liJui*Uoiiii% >LiuI. <is eviMtts will 

on uf the driiiiiatic 

■ fH-nrnn*"' of thiis it* 

' Le jHJtUfr 

1 is (tvt-r, 

_ 1 ''hy JM «t 

lum. VVIiile it eoduicU, the feiul 

^VAH kwrilv jiihI «hKtiiittl<?Jy wage*!, 

' ' 1 is one anioiiK 


1 111 which th« 

put lurlh, aiul there is Bonie 

' lint the fit-ist of the Heriea will 

1 To a ureal extfiit the 

1 ftufl Vol. I. will eoiiHiht 

1 1 T < »f nj »i >eiinino« — ' Lad v 

>iuij:,' and 'Love"^^ 

t to reach nn, cuuv 

land' (recently iiro- 

the Inipenrtl) imrl 

Liko the i^reviouH 

,11. ih'-- j'rfaont is iasuwl under 

1 1 . William Archer, m'Iio, in a 

, ti,.. '.i,#.ral yirt?fivce» not yet 

Itimittennd iileuary 

i.iti^ms f»\<'t*iif. thof«c 

■ ■ ,: ■ ^ • .Hrfl« 

• 1 rely 

1 1. '..' i .. -i- .., "loes 

extoud I ur I iter ni Honie 

! -»' on h»M i*arr of an un- 

"" '■ lo'^ty 


^ most 

I »iiPtl»UM , while t iic UuliH Qiay 

<]. »nd mu»t have been sauc- 

or intnichictions to the 

i.iiii i<ltiiticial with those 

iiuriioj*e being 

■ tie works were 

••- '■ -UitlHt 

• ion. 
t ary 

,. lu 1 1»L \iLiiv,^ ill Hel|*e- 
\,\% cronnlrnctioii is deolmu<l to 

' ■-■-- ■•■ ■' I ••■'■ f.kiy 


1 of a 

;lji.(J i\'. ■•well 

ul. The wor<l 

I " ' " very free 

II, which 


^j-l't-al !•■ riuuii' rlmt "\'"*king"' 

nl MO ii!4 Ui rime, not with 

'•ccking," or "nt wor>»t" i';) 

Sa inivm|»o|ifH Ity 'Brand.' 

a metre in which I could career where I would, OA 
»m h<»rMe.l>rtek." And iti his ItundH the metrt' deve- 
lojicH ft versatility of tone rh^ytlim anrl rime iiimtme* 
nient '* for whieh Browning')* ' Uhri.Htmiv* Eve 'and 
•Kft.'^ter Ihiy" is the only proximate Knjjflisli parallel." 
'I'he sixth volume conUiin.s the two allietl plftys, 
' The Leftg^ie of Youth ' ftnd * Pilhirs of Society.' 
The Irttter is said to l>e from the end of the tii-st act 
to the nutldie of tlie last h model of nkilfnl |.lot- 
developnient. F*,>r the seventh volume were fe.'<erved 
the two eiKx.>h-mftrkintf iilays " .A Doll's Honse ' and 
•(ihoRtJ!'— works whieh, the editor hoUls, left the 
hijiher and subtler quftlitiosof Ihsen'.s genius for the 
niortt iMirt unreprei^entefl, and were mainly reMpon- 
Hilile tor the gjHjtesipiely distorted vi.Mion of him 
\vhich for so long liAuntotl tlie niindM even of intel- 
ligent jwople. 

So far iut the edition has Iwcn carried *mt. it \m 
idertl in nil reHi ►eft;;^. That it wiin>e contjnue<l on 
a like scale of ex^'cllonce is not t*i W' doubted : and 
the ai|»earance of the perfeetHCt is an event to be 
eagerly antieiiiated by lovers of tlio drama. 

Cfiihirtf. LViropiled from the Paperw, and illus- 
tratotl by the Portraits at Claydon H<uiHe by 
Frances PartheiinjM'! Veroey and Margaret M, 
Verney. Second Bditiim. 2 vols. (Loniiuans 
A WKLi^iME anil an important afldition 1o "The 
Silver Library " of Me««rH. Ijonginan is mffde in the 
reissue, with oorrtH-tions and emendations, of the 
' Memoirs of the Verney Family,' publinhed between 
IM92 and MW by two «incee*Hive Liwly Venifv«. To 
the nieiit-s of the tir«t e^lition, with its sjilendid 
rcproductioiiH of the itictureRin Claydon Houwe and 
elsewhere, we have drawn fretpient attention. In 
the ease of fc%v Englii»h families have we a ror-ord sm 
xnstainedly int-eresting. Though this must be oon- 
sidered a cheai* eflition, it t.K, like the first, freely 
illuRtrated. ktrnw attempt at contlensiition has 
i>een made. The trejitment, however, ia reverent. 
It is impossible to conceive a library of hi«torioal 
reference or consultation whieh dw^s not include 
the Verney memoirs, which, aiiart from the li<:ht 
they ca»*t uium hiMtory and jwx'ial matter-^. Iiave 
iiiueh of the charm of romance. A benefit is oon« 
ferreil uriou the Inioklover to whom they are 
l»resented in a guise so handnome. 

Thf Xfti^«im/)er Prt'^it Din'rfort/. (MitobeU A: Co.) 
On the «)tH'aKion of the Diamoml •Inltilee i»r this 
valuable jfuide wo luvd, it may he rememben'tl, two 
notes giving its btfltory (1 and S .Xiwil, ll>li.">). The 
prenent volume, the sixty -second, c«ntinue« the 
reeonl of rapid pixjgresH ina<le by our Prens. \Vc 
*"ould that in all Kranchej* f)f our eonuneree 
like energy was hIiowji io that fli.Mplayed l>y the 
workers in the w*>rld of newHi>af>errt, 

The outstanding event eonneeted with newsi miters 
in the past year wan the London daily which pub- 
lished it.« tii-Mtand last isHues within fiv*.^ confiecntive 
<lay«. This jtajKir, under the title of Tht Majuritf/^ 
was " 3tarte<l nn Julv 10th, and ceased on July 14th 
from lack of eajntal." 

It »n curious tliat at the present time there whonid 
be Only one iMH>er in the LJnitetl Kinplom bearing 
the title of Sun, and that a weekly journnb Thr 
Sun in an hist^ric^il title among new- n 

arconnt of the evening paper mI that nm i 

by William Pitt while he was Prime Mim ii 


NOTES AND QUERIES, [los. vil mabch^imt. 

tieorfte Rose or it« tint editor. In 1823 it was pur- 
chA8C(i by Miirdo Yonug, ii man fnll uf energy, who 
wa8 the Hrst to nend exiirem rei)ort« of imiiortHnt 
roeetings Ut the leading townH. Hin enteqirifle in 
thiH direction once led him into a serious mistake. 
A meeting was announced to Im.> held on Penenden 
Heath in favour of Catholic Kmancijiation. Richard 
Lalor Sheil was to R]>eak, and as he attached con- 
siderable im^Kntanoe to the event, he wrote the 
speech out in full. Yoimg, desiring to have it in 
time for the evouinjr mail, o)>tained the manuscript 
from Sheil, and |iul)liHhed it in The Svh the same 
evening, interlarding it with Kuch i)hra«e8 as ''vehe- 
ment applause," **loud and long continued oheer- 
iiitfj" &c. ; but unfortiuatvly the sjieech M'as not 
ddivered, Kheil not lieing able to obtain a hearing. 
A favourite phrase afterwards applied to the 
elo<juent orator Mas that of '* S]>eechleKS Sheil." 
Murdo Young's enerjry inspired otliers, and in 1845 
he confcrrea the editorship on his son-in-law 
Charles Kent, that *' right friend and gentleman " 
and old contributor to our columns. Kent was 
then only twenty-two. See the obituary notice 
9 S. ix. 200. 
Last years honours to the jtress included a 

i»eerage for Sir James .Toicey, a knighthotxl for Mr. 
>\ C. ilould, and Mr. H. Lanouchere being made a 
Privy Councillor. Among those who retired from 
editorship were Sir F. C. Buniand from Punch, Dr. 
Charles Kussell from The (rlawow UtraJd, and Mr. 
T. Catling from Lhud'tt Weel-fy Xevt. The 
obituary includes Sir John Leng, of whom it is 
interesting to recall that when a boy at school he 
was joint editor of a manu8crii)t magazine nvith 
Charles Cuoi>er, who afterwards became so well 
know as editor of The ScotHman ; James Hender- 
son, the publisher of the first halfi)eniiy evening 
pai)er: and James Annand, M.P., T»roi)rietor oi 
The Shi^MM fta'.efff, founder of The yorihem 
Wet-klii LewUr, and the first editor of The Xeir- 
coMt/t Dmiti Letidtr. In early youth Annand had 
to sitend his days in shoeing horses, but his wish 
was to become a journalist, notwithstanding the 
"prediction of the local minister that if he i>er- 
sisted in his ambition ho w(mld come to a Imd end." 
In spite of all the disadvantages under which he 
Btartetl, he l)ecanie nieml>er of Parliament for his 
native district, but, .sot! to reconl, he did not live 
to take his seat, as he died suddenly of heart 
disease on 9 February last year. 

The ' Directory' should hud its place in all public 

Th»- Kdinhuryh Rtviei'': January, J!kK. (Longmans 

The ittti»er on 'The English Industrial Revolution 
of the Eighteenth Centur>'' indicates that the 
writer is free fi-oni ]*artisaii fwling— a blight which 
«»ften disiigures work ivlating t<» subjects of this 
class, even when they are the result of adetiuate 
knowledge. Much of interest, however, might have i 
l)een added, if sufficient sjiace hafl Keen at the ' 
writer's dis])Osal. We wish he had dwelt on the j 
fact that the various districts of England con by no ' 
means l>e classed together so far as rural jirogress is 
conceniwl. The hijjhways, for exam]ile, were in 
very different conditions m neiehlmurhoods not far 
distant from each other; much deiiended on the 
ueological character of the country. So far as we 
nave i)een able to ascertain — though we need not say 
we 8i»eak with some doubt— the roads on the whole 
were less evil in the North and West than they 

were in the Eastern shires : but there wennodoa 

a few favoured si>otM where a better state o{ thin 

prevailed. In some places men had beqiMitki 

money for the puntose of much-needed reiw 

How far l>ack this wnolesome practice goei oub 

be discovered. Many instances are reoonkd and 

' HighwayH ' in the uidexes to Dr. Shi^pe • *GUend 

of Wills proved in the Court of Rusting, Loitdai 

For instance, John de Oxenford, vintner, Mijrar : 

1311-2, left iMMiuests for reiMurs of London widgeii 

the great ancl the little bridges at Oxford, ind i 

tlie maintenance of bridges at other places, indi 

' ing Maidenhead. An episcopal wtllfp\'esan enmd 

of a noble l)e4iuest of this kind : Nicholas Bdh 

wyth, Bishop of Bath and Wells 140B-34, berpmthi 

a thousand marks for the repair of *' the rotten ■ 

dee}i-sunk lanes of Somerset.'* The gilds, too, tai 

their i>art in this good work ; but Hub aaanai 

revenue was diverted when in the reign of II 

ward VI. their wealth iiassed into lav hidt 

Many, probably most, of the mediieval bndgci ■ 

Ixilon^ng to London or our large cities were mA 

of ])rivate munificence ; it therefore foUowi tU 

the ways by which they were reached must hM 

l)een 7>ut into a tolei-able condition, or they wad 

have lK>en useless. The systematic imjiroveiiMK 

the roads 1)egan about the middle of the eightcOl 

century, but at first it was carried on. witbli 

order or connexion, by men who were for the IM 

jiart ignorant of the jtrocess of road-miJcinK. fi*l 

so late as the early days of Queen Victoria mujl 

our local highways were as bad a« they oao Ml 

been in the reign of Queen Elizabeth. 

* InsuUir Fiction ' treats of six typical Endi 
novels by a like number of writers, aidd shows M 
almost imiM}8Bible it is for a modem author to 4 
entangle himself from the cords that convcntil 
has Ixniiid around him, so that the \'i8i(ni he iM 
may Ik; truly pictured. Thus he has to imiwee I 
himself restraints which to the more imagiiiatil 
mind Iwconie fetters. This in no way arisefl frtl 
the ohviou.s fact that some things from their rt 
nature are unworthy or incai>able of iniagimth 
treatment: it pHweeds rather from the motiTel 
avoiding those things which to publisher and * 
vieMXT alike would seem unconventional. J 

•Tradition in Art' is in many resiiectn bi^ 
satisfactor>', but is too much given to ^-slae td 
dition.iiot l)ecause it hands down memories of wW 
was noble and great when executed by thoeej 
M-hnm the inspiration Mas real, but because certB 
form.s in which Iwauty has l)een moulded hil 
Homething which in itself has become sacred. Tl 
M-riter allows some merit to the movementof theft 
Raphoclites, }»ut on the whole deals out to thN 
hard measure. 

* The Age of Rea.son ' is an interesting {laiier. 1 
is a careful review of Mr. .John Money's bod 
on the pre-revolutionarv iieriixl in France, b«# 
ning with Vultaire anrl Rousseau, and ending « 
Burke. There is very much that is valuable, W| 
a character so nearly touching on the jioliticsof 11 
present as to l)e unsuited to our {viges. 

* The Italian (rarden' is worthy of far moreatM 
tion than, we fear, the idle i-eader will be willi 
to give to it. 

Messk^. Bki.l will shoi-tly publish a iwriM 
translation of Be<le*s * Ecclesiastical Historr.* M 
Imsed on the well-known version of Ih>. (iOai, H 
it lias been submitted to a thorough ra^iooil 
Miss A. M. Sellar. ^ 

8. VII. MAitn* 2, 19U7.1 NOTES AND QUERIES. 



VKKV uiKj«l f4t)K(^-««ti(>ti wfts nuujo in Th^ 
inittf' Citrtifar i\ few Wfpks Imck— thnr (--.1 
fLltitf^ would do well to ]ilA('t* jt dat4^ on tli 

108. MfHKrK. Siithentn *t Co. hnve ahm i : 
. their Piiot- Current. Jintl we think our other 
ttlw woulfl rh> well to luiupt the plrtu. 

.okwell. of f >xford, inclttdeis in hix OatA- 
XVII. ' Mi'jiioir>..' 4 vols., I'J^ «K ; 
'U'k •Ch«n<fl|iirH.' 7 vols . rv4S, !/. IT*. <W. ; 
Cftiitleronph Memoin*,' V* ' - Vt, 3^. 3i«. 

Iiere iM a lotn; li.«.t under M' *'■>'» '*nd 

her tjndrr <ir<*«'k ami Lrtti Othei- 

itn«H omijiuifkc Atkvns:* *(;li i^/ 1708, 

7*.; Fn.''N 'Pant«>ifrHpl)iri,' IT Ii-yrick'a 

nticnt Armour.' i83ll. .'J> Anrient 

e<lite4i MujmMK'iitw,' I- 1^, 4«. ; 

ko«t*t''')ii'«« Fit'kcriiiff'a " iJ.,. ,,.i -,... i .,i-.^tc*i," 182.>, 
in., I/'. It.: luid KickniAu's '{Styles of Archi- 
I.' 1/. 10-. 
I Mr. Bertrnnj DoJh?!!** CdtAlopie 148 ootitaiiiH n 
iier of iMMikn it-latinit tn Fr^««T»«iw«*»Tirv, b1*»o a 
und«»r S' ' •' ' -" ' !in|t( 

tendon I ii-st 

Uk, ii: . 'he 

I.H.' tV. tl'. Tli«'iv ail- JliU'lt:■^lln^ tt«ujA under 
ihiink. Cnder T>ioktn«>i M-e Hnd the fir<«t 
itioM of 'Pirkwick ' in tli' - 
ortuniitoly, the |tlat4>i< m 

oloth, 2/. 12-. : 
Tho gtmeral 

rhirh. 'Ih. I;in. fi r ' .f^ 'The Wild 

i.^f ?i \Vork.«». etlit«d 
i/. HA-*,; H very fine 

'■' .' > •-. ■--. 1«V. Kt*.; antl the 

Ht edition nt Nownmn « WiKjloKia,' 1/, \m. 

^Mfiwrs. VVillirtru (»e<>nf««*s Sojjs, of Bristol, have 

their Lint 'JfC the Hint t.'<]itiuii of Atkyn.'*'» 

31(>iK>pa(«'»-«hire.' I7I'2. IfV, 1ft*. ; and f»ilchri}«t'» 

' '" ' " " ■ " ■ - under Cora- 

Ui'r\-.' tti', I.V : 

, W. There 

hl»l itlitiuiisi ut hwuihuitie. iilltu Nome of 

^cikering'x lieHUtilul "Diamond riftwim"; and 

i»d«- K«phucl is .7. A. "- ^ ' [,v of the 

%rvf wries of the wnll i \'nticftn, 

9nia, 1772-7. 12/. 1 2-. 'I t ,<• made 

Comi^iorcsi, nwl engrnvtwi n finishwl 

'Je. There is rd»i it m-i ..oity of 

« 'Holy r.jind.' in n o/iie of 

tivl wo<kIs, inlaid, wit i' - iwnels 

idc^>n«, 1H42-JI. 40/, A] -f Fn-nch 

plftys. «7 vok.. JKIO-IU, jM :V. 3*.; nnd 

items will \w found under <*i*^«8Art, 

itiJIK (toil 


»'illi*m HitohntMrn Brintol Lint i5 oontnins 

XLti,' l»y Andrt*w Tucr, 3/. :t«. ; IHxonV 

1 Wind'siir.' 4 vnU.. 1S«. ; Jur«m'« 'Life of 

Bnininieil.' If. llU ? \m Fnnt^ini*. rontplete 

' ' ' Knjjlund,' 

-. Un|U 

- I" f. . --oIji,, 4to. 

: Mid ' UuU.>Ji«, h> MtkX K4>u>«em :2 vuUk« 4to, 



l.w. : 

4»> voi«.. 


r* !.V 

lAv : 

t 182r>. i/. 17^. ft/.; Fanner and Henley* 

I itn AnrtWues.' 7 vols., 4/. 4>*.: 'CaswflV 

I 1 .10 Etm>i>e. 5 vols., 2/. ir^^. (orijfinal 
^uLwcnlHrrs copy); and Ehot Wftp)mrt«.ii's ' Print-c 
HuiKjrt,' 3 voU, first edition, lH4fl. 1/. \Sm. 0,1. A 
Moaroe item in Wither's * Si)ecu!uni Si.ecridativuni,* 
l2nio. 16<H). 2/. '2h.', and tlu-re is a handsome Urge^ 
jfM»]>er w>i.y of Heyne'H ' Vixgil/ 8 vols., 4to, I7l«3^ 
3/. .-U. 

Messrs. Mayer & MUller. of Berlin, devoto their 
Latjilogne 22R U» Oriental works formerly Iwlonjcinw 
to llr, (i. Hulh, of the Univer>Aity of Berlin. Thi- 
Jrst wction dealn with the w't^neral history of the 
Ka.Kt, folloTved hy works relating to Peraia. Inrlia.. 
Central A«JA, Ejrypt. Africa, Jamn, Ac. A .seoond' 
entaloR:iie will treat of fSeniitic. African, and 
A>nt*r)f.ttn lanniiages. Would n<it Mci^srs. Mayer A: 
Miiller do well to follow the Kiigliah plan of 
numbering the various items ? 

Mr. E. Menken^A Bof)k Cirr-ular \irt cont«iinii two- 
Hn«ce Alpine itema : Atkin's * Ascent to th**- 
Sunmtit ot MiMit Rlauo on the 22nd and 23rd of 
AiijfUHt, IRTT," 21. VI*.; and Martins * Aaoent, 16th to- 
ISth of ftth Month, \sm: 2/. I2«, Both of the-^e 
work.^ werx* privately printed. Under Ancient 
Rehponw we hnd Bryant's * Ancient .Mytholoto,' 
177.'i (», 1/. Th. li>t There in a lieautiful MS. on fine 
vellum, 'Antiijhotiarium cum Kotis Muaicis,* 
Sae<i. XIV., 20/. The omanieiitAtion ia very delicate. 
Under Coloured Plates are Mayer's •Views in 
KgyTit.' Bowyer, 1803-4. 3/. .^(.: Rjibelais et I'lEnv-re 
de Jule.<i tJamier.' Paris. I.SHT, 3/. I.m. ; and 'The 
Attorney - (Jeneral's Charjte.s auain^t Queen Caro- 
line,' c*oloured jdat^s by Cruikwhank and others. 
O. Humphrey. 1821, 12/. 12^. Georpe IV. was com- 
l>elletl to sui>|>re.s« thift. and the numl)cr of copies 
that iH)t into circulation waw no nm*\\ that the Ixiok 
in one of the rai-e«t of those ilhifitratwl by Cruik- 
shank. Other items are Tuer'« 'Horn Book",' .3/. 3*,;: 
and Thoniaa k KempiK. 2 vols., Curmer, ISTiB-J?,. 
KV. ft*. There is much of intej^-st under Lruidon 
ineludinji I'rehmr's * Ludnate Hill,' ](l«. 6r/.. ami 
Newcourt's * Ixmdoii nnd Wentminster," 1/. ."w. tk/ 
Under PlayinjrCard* in a set of the 'MJreatMojiul."' 
issued about 1811), with the red exeiso UIkjI, mi- 
ojienetl. Two cautions are printe<I on the >»Tap|>er: 
'*.y. penalty for any Pei-i>on fiellinp or usinK in 
<;reat Britain or Ireland any Card without a thitv 
Ace of Spmles," and "'ity. jienalty on Licensee and 
Maker u.suiij: an Ace of Siiades wrapfwr or kiwi" 
lH.*fore used, or sellins Cardn not Rtain|>ed." Thcrt? 
are a numlier of Road-6ook-i, Illuminjitcd MSS.. 
and Royal Bindings. 

Mr. JameM Miles, of Leeria, ha.«i in hia CaU- 
lojoie 1.17 McKennv'« •Indian Trilies.*