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NOTES  AND  QUERIEST 


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LITERARY   HEN,    OENERAL   READERS,    ETC. 


"When  found,  mnka  nnoU  of." — Caitai^i  Cin 


fourth    series. —volume    ninth. 
January — June  1872. 


OFFICE,    43    WELLINGTON    STREET,    STRAND,    W.C. 
1872. 


A  Ko.  nt,  Jul;  St,  ISIS, 


*>»  S.  IX.  JiS.  G,  ■:!.] 


^'OTES  AND  QUERIES. 


LOSDOX.  aATDEDAr,  JAHIART  C.  16T!. 


Slaniw.tt-HDW  todnpribe  R  Honk.  « -Tlia  Pockut- 
dial  of  Kobnt  Defrmi.  Eurl  ot  ISiwi.  13«3. 0— Otbir 
-Blue  BotCIO  — Riflwntitinii  In  Ihp  G"rmmn  Armj, /». 

—  Th«"»c»lL»  of  JmtlCH"  00  loniter  •  Fmble  —  lI»d»iDB 
de  Genlu,  Ac,  11- 

QUBEIBH:-  Wu  innrn  Bolvn  born  In  thn  Cutle  of  Or' 
h<A-on-Ruir?  12  — Banrcmeri'i  S«iK  —  Clurli'H  I.'a  Waiit- 
mu  —  Chowbent  —  ■■  J-ifflit  Chriitmin" —Cr-irnwclllaii 
Rrm  —  Rm.  Ilenrr  nodvell.  Pnhmdiry  or  I4aruin  knd 
Arrhilnnm  nf  Berki  ~  Hutlloor  GmwhiMn^UiiiiiiblWiMl 
Lettcn  of  Edwiml  RJbbon  —  ■■  J.iin  luu""  — Mminniin 
TteiA  mil  Rilon— Molftirorth  MctUI - Cormnonduirs 
drN^BWrni  I.  — Hri.  8tppheii»'t>  M«didn«  — H.  I^nn- 
tooui  —  TmIS!  —  Tintwen  —  Abb:>t  of  GlutnubiiiT'ii 
'U'litch  — Untu't  nvighU— "  Wltb  Helinvt  on  bla  Brov" 

—  Bn>wiMWIIIIi,lS. 


—  WbllMcreCmt— IMtuhiiriHl  >t  Ihn  Fcpt  of  Bithopi— 
"  Bifnni,  raaioj,"  »c.— "  Krmn  " —Printed  Uottflr  copl>^i 

-  lUrtb-wInk  -  ChwRB  of  HaptlMnil  Niiiue  -  BriM-Bwr 
Jbk  IiMsriptinm  —  RuditT'im  MnnolitU  —  EtrntoloH  of 

-  Marmimtr  ■•-Pb»noiucno.i  of  the  Pu.i-Antiqii-.  VfriU 
in  MriliKnlHnli- Carbnu  Baptlnmiil Kunoi  —  " HpM4 " 
— Turinua  .idilnww  on  LrRen— "  )iM  Supenbarln  iAVA- 
ndrw  WrolMe"  ":  H»nT  Lorrcqnir  —  "  A  r«rTi"ii  Crow" 

—  Americkn  SWt«  Nlckrwmw  —  frorlnclal  Glmwr*  — 
"CMt  fM-_D«Ub"  — HnnrUi'o-'llakni  UidiiiDliI  Con- 


riDter*!  Ein 


k  tc,  I 


HotM  nn  Book*.  Ac. 


TOE  QUEEN'S  LETTEli. 

As  Dr.  JuhnuD  vinlf  aiid,  "  There  are  higher  I 
thin  tfaon  or  criticiuii ; "   io  England  holds  alinoii 
bigher  eetimation  than  bcr  tinu-bonoared  otnalita' 
the  Mcred  nUlions  or  Home  Life.     It  wai  from 
fttling  that  the  irhole  Datum  sorrowed,  a>  with  one  great 
perwnal  aoirow,  with  those  wbo  miniitered  aronnd  the 
Rck   bad  at  Sandringham  ;  acd  the  heart  of  England. 
beating  in  concord  with  thou  of  (he  wwpinj;  UuCher 
and  afflicted  Wife,  joined  in  their  prsrera  for  Ibc  Prince's 
recoTtrr.     England'a  remambranee  of  what  she  owed  lu 
the  Queen  for  the  manner  In  wliiclj,  nn  leas  by  precept 
than  example,  ahe  had  maintained  the  purity  of  Engliih 
Domeilic  Lifp,  lent  Ektrour  to  the  Nation's  prayers ;  and 
UwiT  mBtml  Borrow  wrTod  to  strengthen   the  mnttul 
affection  which  has  erer  existed  betwoen  the  Queen  anil 
Her  r«ople. 

How  gi«i(l,T  Her  H^esty  has  been  moved  hj  this  dis- 
play of  public  sympathy  cannot  be  told  so  effectively  as 
in  Uet  own  graccfi^  and  grateful  Letter  :— 

"  Windsor  Castle,  Dae,  -26. 
"  The  Queen  Utoj  anxious  to  express  lieriieep 
traiN  of  the  touching  Bjmpitthy  of  the  whole 
nktion  on  the  ooc&sion  of  the  alarming  illnesa  or 
her  dear  son,  the  Prince  of  Wales.  The  universal 
feeling  shown  by  her  people  during  those  painful. 
tetrible  dajfl^  and  the  eympatbj  evinced  bj  them. 


with  herself  and  her  balored  daughter,  the  Prin- 
cess of  W^Hles,  as  well  as  the  genarnl  joj  at  the 
improvemoat  in  the  Princo  of  Wales's  state,  liave 
made  aTdeep  ond  lasting  impression  on  her  heart 
n'hich  can  never  be  effaced.  It  was,  indeed, 
aothing  new  to  her,  for  the  Queen  hfid  met 
with  the  aame  sympathj  when  just  ten  jreara  ago 
a  eitnilar  illness  removed  from  her  side  the  miuo- 
Blay  of  her  life,  the  best,  wisest,  and  kindest  of 
husbands. 

"The  Queen  wishes  to  express  at  the  same 
time  on  the  part  of  the  Princess  of  Wales  her 
feelings  of  heartfelt  gratitude,  for  nhe  has  been 
as  deeply  touched  as  the  Queen  by  the  great  and 
universal  manifestation  of  loyalty  and  sympathy. 

"The  Queen  cannot  conclude  without  express- 
ing her  hope  that  her  futhful  subjects  will  con* 
tinue  their  prayerstoQod  for  the  complete  recovery 
of  her  dear  son  to  health  and  strength." 

We  are  sure  we  need  offer  no  apology  to  our  readers 
for  printing  in  these  columns  a  document  worthy  alike 
the  Illustrioui  Ijidy  by  whom  it  ia  written,  and  of  the 
loyal  and  laving  subjects  to  whom  it  is  addressed. 


NAPOLEOS  ON  BOARD  THE  NORTHUHDEB- 
LAf<D. 

[W'e  are  indebted  to  tbc  kindness  of  Lord  LYTTF.LTnn 
for  the  opportunity  of  publishing  tho  following  intereat- 
ing  notes  of  his  father,  the  lite  Lord  Lyttelton.  of  which 
a  very  limited  number  of  copies  was  printed  for  private 
circulation  in  1836  under  tho  title  at  Soau  AecntnUof 
JVapolain  Jlutiapartt'i  aiming  on  Board  H.  St.  S.  Oe 
Xerth-mbrrland,  A«3Hin.l»lb;  Kith  A'ota  Pf  Tuv  Cbm- 
vrnaliiai  hdd  uitk  lilim  on  thai  Day.] 


"The  ri 


J  tho  followinp:  nccount 
'  ■■ie7th. 


under  the  correction  of  Lord   Lowthcr,  . 

almost  all  that  is  described,  and  leaving  tlic  ship  at  the 
same  time  with  me,  conversed  with  me  on  the  subject, 
and  compared  hia  recollectiona  with  mine,  till  we  reached 
our  inn  for  tho  night,  when  we  aat  down,  and  commiltad 
them  to  paper  in  the  brat  manner  we  conld. 

"LVTIELTO*. 

"Ilagley,  Oct.  1836." 

"  Napoleon  Bonaparte  came  on  board  the  North- 
umberland (74),  oft  Torhay,  at  about  one  o'clock 
in  the  ofternooa  of  the  Ttb  of  Ausust,  181&. 

"I  had  the  good  fortune  to  l)e  then  in  that 
vessel,  as  a  friend  of  Admiral  Sir  George  Cock- 
bum,  whose  flag  she  bore,  and  I  was  therefore  at 
liberty  to  post  myself  where  I  would,  in  order  to 
see  what  passed  to  the  greatest  advantage.  I 
took  my  station  on  the  ladder  leading  up  to  the 
poop,  so  as  to  look  over  the  starboard  bulwark,  in 
which  direction  Bonaparte  was  approaching  ac- 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


L4«i»  S.  IX.  Jax.  6,  72. 


companied  by  Lord  Keith  in  the  Tonnant's  barge. 
He  sat  to  the  left  of  Lord  Keith^  and  I  had  there- 
fore a  clear  view  of  his  profile,  which  seemed  to 
me  to  be  very  like  the  common  portraits  of  him, 
with  this  difference  only,  that  his  cheek  looked 
broader,  I  thought,  than  I  had  ever  seen  it  repre- 
sented. I  was  too  intent  upon  him  to  observe 
which  of  his  officers  might  be  with  him  in  the 
boat ;  but  Bertrand  must  have  been  there,  since  it 
was  he  who  first  climbed  up  the  Northumber- 
land's side,  and,  standing  with  bis  hat  off,  as 
upright  as  a  sentinel,  to  the  right  of  the  gangway, 
as  he  entered,  announced  his  master.  Bonaparte 
followed  very  speedily,  and  presented  himself  very 
well,  taking  off'  his  hat  instantly,  and,  with  an 
open  air  and  smiling  countenance,  said  to  Sir 
George  Cockburn,  who  had  advanced  to  receive 
him,  *  Monsieur,  je  suis  a  vos  ordres.'  He  did  not 
halt  an  instant  at  the  gangway,  but  coming  for- 
ward on  the  quarter-decK,  desired  to  be  introduced 
to  the  captain  of  the  ship  (Ross),  which  ceremony 
took  place  immediately,  the  marines  who  were 
drawn  up  on  the  larboard  side  of  the  deck  pre- 
senting arms  as  he  was  coming  up. 

"  Captain  Ross  not  understanding  a  word  of 
French,  it  was  merely  a  mutual  salute,  and  Bona- 
parte passed  on  towards  the  poop,  under  which 
stood  Colonel  Sir  George  Bingham  (of  the  53rd 
regiment,  then  going  to  St.  Helena),  Lord  Low- 
ther,   the   Honourable    Edmund  Byng,   and    an 
officer  of  artillery,  with  whose  name  I  am  not 
acquainted.     These  persons  were  successively  in- 
troduced to  him  by  Sir  George  Cockburn.     He 
asked  Sir  George   Bingham  what  regiment  he 
belonged  to,  and  where  he  had  served ;  to  Lord 
Lowther  and  Mr.  Bvng  he  put  a  question  or  two 
of  no  importance :  for  instance,  what  county  they 
came  from  ?  whether  they  were  going  on  shore, 
and  if  so,  whether  to  London  ?  and  to  the  artil- 
lery officer  he  said  '  Je  soi-s  moi-meme  de  ce  corps 
la,'  or  some  such  words.     I  was  placed  at  the  foot 
of  the  ladder  farther  on  to  the  left,  and  being  a 
little  behind  Bonaparte  when  he  came  up  to  the 
poop,  was  not  perceived  either  by  him  or   the 
admiral,  and  consequently  was  not  introduced  to 
him.     I  stood,  however,  so  near  as  to  see  and 
hear  distinctly  much  of  what  passed,  and  I  saw 
Bonaparte  perfectly  in  front  as  he  advanced,  and 
often  afterwards  in  profile.     During  the  whole 
time  he  maintained  the  same  cheerful,  or,  perhaps 
I  should  rather  say,  gracious  air,  inclining  him- 
self a  little  towards  those  to  whom  he  was  speak- 
ing, and  smiling  constantly.     He  had  his  hat  off 
all  the  time,  and  I  remarked  that  the  top  of  his 
head  was  almost  quite  bald,  and  that  his  hair,  of 
a  reddish  brown  colour,  was  long,  rough,  and,  if 
the  expression  may  be  permitted,  dishevelled.    As 
for  the  expression  of  his  countenance,  I  thought 
it  rather  subtle  than  noble.     His  eyes  had  some- 
thing of  a  haggard  look;  were  somewhat  dimmed. 


I  thought,  and  as  though  they  might  have  been 
orimnally  very  piercing,  but  that  time  and  anxiety 
had  abated  their  fire. 

"  This  is  all  that  occurred  to  me  on  this  my 
first  sight  of  Bonaparte,  except  that  his  com- 
plexion appeared  to  me  not  only  sallow,  but 
sickly.  After  conversing  for  a  very  few  minutes 
with  the  people  to  whom  he  was  introduced  upon 
the  quarter-deck,  finding  himself  near  the  cabin 
door,  he  went  in,  attended  by  Lord  Keith  and  Sir 
George  Cockburn,  and  passed  on  to  the  after- 
cabin,  followed  by  some  of  his  officers,  and  I  lost 
sight  of  him  for  about  an  hour  and  a  half. 
During  this  period  I  have  no  account  of  his  be- 
haviour. Lord  Keith  and  Sir  George  Cockburn 
remained  with  him  for  a  few  minutes,  and  I  do 
not  remember  that  I  heard  a  syllable  of  what 
passed  on  that  occasion,  unless  it  were  that  Bona- 
parte desired  that  the  lieutenants  of  the  ship 
might  be  introduced  to  him,  which  was  done 
some  time  afterwards,  as  I  shall  mention  pre- 
sently. Bonaparte's  train  consisted  of  General 
Bertrand  and  nis  wife.  Count  and  Countess  Mon- 
tholon,  Monsieur  Jjascases,  and  General  Gour- 
gaud,  who  were  to  follow  him  to  St.  Helena,  and 
all  these  officers,  with  the  above-mentioned  ladies, 
had  arrived  on  board  the  Northumberland  about 
the  same  time  as  their  master.  As  soon  as  Bona- 
parte had  disappeared,  my  attention  was  naturally 
turned  towards  them,  and  I  observed  them  all 
pretty  minutely.  Bertrand,  the  only  distinguished 
man  of  the  four  followers  of  the  fallen  emperor, 
renowned  as  he  had  been  over  all  Europe  for  the 
constancy  of  his  attachment  to  Napoleon,  was  the 
first  object  of  my  curiosity.  My  expectation  was 
in  a  great  measure  disappointed. 

"  To  me  neither  his  look  nor  his  manner  in- 
dicated anything  great  or  extraordinary.  In 
short,  I  think  I  should  never  have  remarked  him 
at  all,  if  I  had  not  known  the  singular  history  of 
the  man.  As  to  Montholon,  Lascases,  and  Gour- 
gaud,  they  are  not  worth  describing.  I  think, 
indeed,  it  would  have  been  impossible  to  have 
filled  the  scene  with  more  inanimate  and  uninter- 
esting personages. 

"Bertrand  alone  seemed  sometimes  agitated, 
and  often  looked  haughty  and  angry  j  but  the  rest 
had  no  expression  at  all,  and  wanted  even  the 
lowest  tragic  interest,  that  of  simple  grief. 

"They  all  sat  round  a  table  in  the  fore-cabin, 
writing;  and  they  were  soon  joined  by  L'AUe- 
mand  *  and  by  several  other  officers  who  came  to 
take  leave  of  Bonaparte,  and  who  were  permitted 
to  remain  there  as  long  as  they  chose,  both  before 
and  after  their  last  interview  with  their  master. 
Of  these  there  were  but  few  deserving  any  parti- 
cular deccription.     L'Allemand  has  a  very  dark, 


*  "  Savary  had  taken  leave  of  Bonaparte  in  the  Belle- 
rophon,  so  that  I  did  not  see  him. 


•4*  &  IX.  Ja.s.  C,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Strong,  significant  countenance ;  and,  I  think,  rather 
a  noble  one.  But  there  were  two  Poles,  one  of  a 
pretty  advanced  age,  the  other  in  the  prime  of 
ms  youth,  whose  air  and  demeanour  were  exceed- 
ingly striking. 

'*  The  elder,  a  venerable  old  man,  of  almost 
gigantic  stature,  was  altogether  one  of  the  most 
singular  and  picturesque  figures  I  ever  beheld. 
What  with  his  martial  air,  the  sadness  but  com- 
posed gravity  of  his  aspect,  and  the  peculiar  effect 
of  his  Polish  dress,  reminding  one,  as  it  naturally 
did,  of  the  aflUcting  history  of  his  much-injured 
countr}',  it  was  impossible  to  look  without  emo- 
tion on  this  noble  veteran,  thus  following  his 
adopted  sovereign  in  the  last  extremities^  of  his 
fortune,  and  enduring  as  it  were  a  second  exile  for 
bis  sake.  The  appearance  of  the  younger  man,  who 
either  felt  more  or  was  less  able  to  control  the  ex- 
pression of  his  feelings,  was  moving  in  the  extreme. 
Ue  had  nothing  remarkable  in  his  figure  or  features; 
but  his  grief  and  the  a<^ony  he  endured  at  being 
forced  away  from  Bonaparte  surpassed  any  suffer- 
ing 1  ever  witnessed,  and  were  irresistibly  affect- 
ing. They  both  went  up  to  Lord  Keith,  entreating 
to  be  allowed  to  go  to  St.  Helena,  the  elder  with 
an  earnest,  but  with  a  manly  and  settled  look ; 
the  young  man,  openly  in  tears,  urging  his  re- 
quest over  and  over  again,  long  after  the  other 
had  given  up  his  as  hopeless,  and  saying  in  the 
most  piteous  manner,  *Si  je  renonce  a  mon 
grade.' 

**  He  wanted  to  be  allowed  to  pass  as  a  servant, 
the  number  of  officers  pennitted  to  accompany 
Bonaparte  being  complete.  When  he  found  that 
all  his  entreaties  were  in  vain,  he  seemed  to  be 
plunged  into  a  state  of  distraction,  his  eyes  were 
almost  overflowing  with  tears,  he  clenched  his 
Polish  cap  convulsively  in  one  hand,  and  kept 
perpetually  touching  his  brow  with  the  other, 
talking  to  himself,  and  running  from  one  port- 
hole to  another  with  such  a  look  of  wild  despair, 
that  I  thought  he  would  have  flung  himself  over- 
board. His  name  was  Pentowsky  or  something 
like  it — not  Poniatowsky. 

•*  To  my  preat  delight,  I  heard  soon  afterwards 
that  our  government  had  given  orders  that  this 
faithful  and  affectionate  creature  should  be 
allowed  to  go  to  St.  Helena  with  Sir  Hudson 
Lowe. 

"  As  for  the  ladies  Madame  Bertrand  and  Ma- 
dame Montholon,  never  were  there  two  people 
more  completely  different  in  look  and  manner. 
Madame  Bertrand,  who  had  behaved  with  great 
violence  in  the  Bellerophon,  seemed  rather  ex- 
hausted than  pacified,  and  had  a  look  of  great 
irritation  and  impatience.  She  is  a  tall,  thin 
woman,  with  an  aquiline  nose,  very  like  Lord 
Dillon,  to  whom  sho  is,  I  believe,  rather  nearly 
related.  Madame  Montholon,  on  the  other  hand, 
had  all  the  quiet  resignation  that  so  well  becomes 


her  sex,  and  one  could  not  help  sympathizing 
with  her  sufferings  so  meekly  borne.  She  is  a 
pretty  woman,  of  a  sweet  and  intelligent  coun- 
tenance. 

"  With  regard  to  the  rest  of  the  suite  of  Bona- 
parte who  came  to  take  leave  of  him  on  board 
the  Northumberland,  it  consisted  chiefly  of  very 
young  men  (offUiers  cCordonnance,  I  believe,)  in 
gay  uniforms,  who  did  not  even  affect  much 
sorrow,  and  I  suppose  had  little  reason  for  much 
personal  attachment  to  their  chief.  The  surgeon 
who  refused  to  follow  him  I  did  not  see ;  he  was 
not  forthcoming  when  the  others  were  getting 
into  the  boat  to  leave  the  ship,  and  it  was  sup- 
posed he  had  slipped  away,  and  perhaps  evaded 
an  interview  which  must  have  been  peculiarly 
disagreeable  to  him. 

*'From  obvious  reasons  of^delicacy,  we  were 
none  of  us  present  at  the  parting  scene,  and  I 
never  heard  a  syllable  relating  to  it.  It  was  not 
till  half  an  hour  after  it  had  closed,  a  space  dur- 
ing which  Bonaparte  had  sufficient  time  to  collect 
his  spirits  if  they  had  been  agitated,  that  I  was 
introduced  into  the  cabin  in  which  he  was,  and 
conversed  with  him  for  the  first  time.  But  the 
circumstances  of  this  introduction  ought  to  be 
stated. 

"  Every  body  knows  that  Bonaparte  was  re- 
ceived as  an  emperor  by  Captain  Maitland,  who 
gave  up  to  him  the  after-cabin,  where  he  was  not 
to  be  intruded  upon  by  any  unbidden  guest ;  on 
board  the  Northumberland,  matters  were  to  be 
placed  on  a  different  footing,  and  although  he  was 
allowed  a  small  cabin  to  himself,  the  great  cabin 
which  had  been  exclusively  his  in  the  Bellero- 
phon was  now  to  bo  shared  by  the  admiral  and 
nis  friends.  In  this  latter  character,  I  had  a  right 
of  admission  there,  and  Sir  George  Cockburn  deter- 
mined to  assert  the  new  rule  by  taking  me, 
together  with  Sir  George  Bingham  and  Lord 
Lowther,  into  the  cabin  at  the  time  he  introduced 
his  lieutenants,  and  leaving  us  there  when  that 
ceremony  was  over.  This  took  place  accordingly 
at  the  period  above-mentioned.  Lord  Lowther, 
by  the  bye,  was  not  in  the  way  at  the  moment, 
and  did  not  come  in  till  a  few  minutes  later. 

"  The  introduction  of  the  lieutenants  was  suffi- 
ciently ridiculous  J  there  were  eight  of  them,  not 
one  of  whom  could  speak  a  word  of  Frencn,  so 
that  on  being  drawn  up  in  line  on  one  side  of  the 
cabin,  and  having  for  about  a  minute  gazed  and 
smiled  at  Bonaparte,  who  smiled  and  gazed  in  his 
turn,  they  all  bowed  and  defiled  before  him,  or, 
in  plain  English,  walked  off.  Then  Cockburn  * 
said  to  Bingham  and  myself,  '  Won^t  you  sit 
down  ?  '  and  left  us  th^re  vis-a-vis  to  Bonaparte, 
who  never  having  seen  me  before,  and  not  knowing 
what  to  make  of  a  man  in  a  brown  coat,  who  for 
aught  he  knew  might  be  the  admvn^^  ^rt^xft.^ 
said,  drawing   up  a  Uttle  aa^  \oc^\8m^  xfti^^ 


NOTES  AXD  QUEEIES. 


[.<"■  S.  IX.  Jas.  fi,  7 


atemly  at  noe,  'Qui  etea-TouBf  I  dnewered,' 
'  Monsieui  1b  Q^nijnl,  je  ro'appelle  Lyttoltmi,  j« 
sou  parent  et  uni  de  1' Amiial.  Bonaparte, '  Et«8- 
V0U8  du  bord  ? '  Lyttelton,  '  Non,  je  uo  suis  pai 
marin.'  B.  'Vous  ^tes  done  ici  par  curiosity?  ' 
L.  '  Oui,  Mon^eur  le  Gi^n^ral,  je  ne  connoiB  aucun 
objet  plus  digne  d'esciter  la  curiont^  qua  celiti 
qui  ma  amend  ici.'  B.  'De  quel  comt^  et«s- 
wus!"  L.  'Da  comW  de  Worcester,'  B.  'Ou 
Mt-il  ?  eat-il  loin  d'ici  P  '  L,  '  Oui,  .Monaieur  le 
O^ndral,  nu  centre  du  rojaume,'  It  was  at  thia 
time,  I  tbinii,  that 
pas  TouB  gi^ntT,  SIonBieur  le  Gtfni 
remark  he  look  no  notice.  After  tbia,  if  I  re- 
member right,  there  was  a,  sliorC  pause,  during' 
irbich  BonapHrte  looked  at  fia  rather  bitlerlj,  and 
showed  some  eigns  of  uaeaslnesK  at  cjur  preieuce. 
lie  then  addressed  bimeelf  to  Sir  George  Bing- 
ham,  and  a&ked  him  aome  common-place  ques- 
ttoiu  concerning  the  number  of  cnmpaoies,  &c  in 
his  regiment,  and  bow  manj  years  he  had  served 
in  Spain,  to  which  Bingham  answered  with  diffi- 
culty in  French.  Bonaparte  turned  aifnin  to  me, 
and  asked  me  whether  the  wind  wna  fair  for  sail- 
ing, and  some  other  trifling  queptinne  about  the 
anchorage  in  which  wo  lay.  to  which  I  replied  as 
I  might.  During  thia  time  Lord  I^owthctcame 
in,  and  Bonaparte  soon  asked  him  the  u-iaal  ques- 
tions: to  what  county  he  belonged,  'Ou  aont  vos 
terres  ? '  to  which  Lowther  also  made  answera  not 
llnentlj,  so  that  the  conversation  presently  re- 
turned to  me.  Bonaparte  naked  me  a  great  deal 
about  our  hunting,  especially  our  foi  liunting: 
whetlier  wo  tumeil  out  nil  our  hounds  at  once,  or 
whetlier  we  h^id  relaya  of  hound.',  &c.  He  then 
aaid,  'Vous  paries  bien  le  Franfoia.'  L.  ' Je  me 
suis  un  pen  exercd  li  parler  Fran^oia,  ayant  beau- 
coup  ToyngiS."  R.  '  Avez-vous  TovngS  en  France  P  ' 
Ij.  'TrfcB-peu,  Monaieur  le  GSniJral;  vous  savez 
que  pendant  maintes  onnt^ea  il  n'etoit  pas  pcrmia 
it  nn  Angloia  de  traveraer  la  France,  noua  y  6tioDS 
de  contrebande  '—with  a  little  more  not  worth 
stating,  since  it  led  to  nothing,  for  I  tliicik  another 
pause  occurred  here,  ahortly  before  which,  Ber- 
trand  had  come  in,  and  having  placed  himself 
behind  Bonaparte  a  little  on  one  fide,  just  as  the 
lord  in  waiting  stands  behind  the  king,  he  looked 
lit  us  dii  haid  ea  ba>  with  a  very  sl;.>nificaut  and 
rather  haughty  air,  of  which  the  English  seemed 
to  bo  '  What  busineas  have  yon  here .' '  Bertrand 
then  went  out  again,  and  Bonaparte  turned  round, 
and  looked  out  through  his  Hpying-gliss  for  a 
a  couple  of  minutes,  during  which  Bmgham  was 
extremely  uneasy,  and  pulling  me  by  the  aleeve, 


•  ■  I  cannot,  of  conrae,  be  qnita  niire  of  the  eery  words 
I  uad  in  every  IniUnee  in  the  FuIlowiD?  conTereationi, 
nor  of  those  uKd  by  Bonaparti;  j  but  I  am  quite  anre 


J  Dy  iwDmpanc  j  oiii  i  am  qqite  sore 
ttiat  Uie  aatatance  is  alwafi  fsithrully  given  i  and  the 
man  promiusat  obaervations  of  BonapiriB  are  a|L  I  be- 
llwe,  qnita  accDratdjr  rrported. 


aaid,  in  a  whisper, '  For  God's  sake  say  something 
to  him,  if  it  be  but  about  a  dog  or  a  cat.'  1  pro- 
mised him  I  would,  and  when  Bonaparte  turned 

about  again,  I  oaked  him  if  he  recollected  Lord 
Ehringlon,  a  relation  uf  Lord  Grenville's;  to 
which  he  answered  yes,  and  aiud  he  was  a 
'  brave  homme  ; '  tlien  I  mentioned  Vernon  to 
him  1  he  hesitated  and  enid, '  Catboliquc  ?'  I  re- 
plied, '  No,  sir,  you  are  thinking  of  Silrertop,'  on 
which  he  said  yes,  and  laughed  a  good  dual,  but 
made  no  remark.  Of  Douglas,  whom  I  named  last 
to  him,  he  said  that  he  was  a  clever  man.  lie 
then  enquired  whether  tiiis  name  of  Doughis  was 
not  a  great  name;  to  which  I  assented,  and  told 
him  briefly  who  the  chief  Douglasses  were. 

"  Xeit  heaaked  whether  there  wasnot  a  Douglas 
much  distinguished  in  Parliament,  and  whether 
it  was  the  Douglas  he  hr.d  seen.  We  n.^ured 
him  (for  Lord  Lowther  tonk  a  p»rt  here)  that  bo 
was  mistaken,  and  that  ufither  Mr.  Fredeiiek 
Douglas  nor  any  oth^r  piTSon  of  that  name  had 
made  a  figure  in  thellouse  of  Commons.*  About 
this  time  I  think  Lord  Lowther  informed  Bona- 
parte that  I  was  a  member  of  Parliament,  where- 
upon he  desired  to  know  whether  I  was' du  parti  de 
I'opposition.'  L. '  Ma  conscience  m'oblige  souveut 
de  donner  mon  BiitTrage  coutrfl  les  ministrea  du 
roi ;  on  est  libre  chez  nou<>,  et  il  faut  agir  selou  co 
que  Ton  croit  etre  de  I'lnli-'ret  de  la  patrie.'  D. 
'Arei-Tous  fait  des  discours  au  Parlemont.f" 
L.  'Qiielques  mt'chantcs  harnngues.'  B.  'M. 
Whitbread  n'est-il  poa  mort  '^'  L. '  Oui,  Mon.=icur 
le  G^n^raL'  B.  'Quelle  a  i^le  In  cause  desnmoil?  ' 
L.  '  II  s'est  donni5  la  mort.'  D. '  Comment  ?  ' 
L.  '  Je  veui  dire  qu'il  s'cst  tui',  il  ijtiiit  derangO.' 
B.  'DerangO  d'esprit^'  L.  'Oui.'  B.  'Etoit-ce 
ce  que  vous  nppelez  le  spleen  ?  '  1  told  him  no, 
that  he  exaggerated  this  EnglLvh  complaint,  the 
spleen,  as  I  knew  foreigners  in  general  did,  and  I 
added,  '  iU.  Whithread  iJtoit  foil. a  tellea  enseignes 
qu'il  croyoit  rjue  tout  lo  moude  lui  en  vouloiC,  le 
regardoit  d'un  air  de  mt'pris,  et  conspiroit  contre 
Im.'  B. 'Do  quelle  maniereeVst-iltu^P'  L.'I1 
a'est  coupu  la  gorge  d'un  rasoir.'  To  thia  Bona- 
parte made  no  answer,  nor  gave  any  aign  of  feel- 
ing whatever  about  it,  but  very  shortly  after  asked, 
'Qui  sera  son  snccesseur  au  Parlement?  I'on- 
Bonby  P '  L.  '  Non,  Monsieur  le  GOnOral,  Mr. 
Ponsonby  est  un  homme  distln^u^,  et  dont  les 
talena  aont  du  premier  ordro,  mais Je  ne  crois  paa 
qu'il  aoit  qualin^  pour  succeder  ii  M.  Whitbread, 
Vous  savei,  Monaieur  le  Q&i^ral,  que  ce  n'est  pas 
ai  facile  de  remplacer  les  grands  hommce.'  Here 
Bonaparte  seemed  to  me  by  his  look  slightly  to 
acknowledge  the  compliment. 


"  Hr.  Habei  aRerwud)  aug^ieBleil  la  me  that  Dona- 
parta  bad  braa  Tei4inK  the  Eogliih  newsponera  latdv, 
and  had  pcrhape obeerved  thai  speech  of  Mr.  Doaclas  In 
which  he  neomnwnded  the  'aimihllatlon  of  the  Frsncb 


i*  S.  IX.  Jas.  6.  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


After  an  instant's  pause,  I  continued,  and  told 
him  I  thought  Brougham  the  likeliest  man  to 
snpply  Whit  bread's  place ;  but  that  it  must  be 
some  time  before  he  could  win  the  same  reputation 
or  acquire  in  the  same  degree  the  public  con- 
fidence. He  then  asked  when,  and  in  what 
manner,  Mr.  Brougham  had  distinguished  himself, 
and  I  told  him  chiefly  in  the  debates  on  the  orders 
in  council;  on  his  enquiring  whether  then  he 
were  very  eloquent,  I  attempted  to  describe  the 
character  of  his  eloquence. 

''Bonaparte  finisned  by  asking  whether  Whit- 
bread  were  not  related  to  Lord  Urey,  and  I  told 
him  he  was,  and  in  what  degree.  Wc  talked  of 
Lord  Grev*8  eloquence,  the  style  of  which  I  had 
to  describe,  but  not  a  word  was  said  of  his 
politics. 

"  In  the  course  of  thi.s  conyersation  (I  cannot 
remember  at  what  period)  Bonaparte  asked 
whether  I  knew  Captiun  Usher,  whom  he  called 
'  tr^braye  homme/  and  Bertrand  said  something 
to  the  same  effect  I  told  him  I  did,  and  had 
very  lately  seen  him  in  the  Isle  of  Wight.  Ber- 
trand put  in  here  that  he  had  read  in  the  English 
papers  that  Usher  had  been  'commissaire  d'un 
Dal '  at  Kyde,  at  which  they  both  laughed  a  little, 
tnd  I  said,  '  Le  capitain  est  bon  pour  entrer  en 
danse,  comme  pour  entrer  en  combat'  I  con- 
cluded by  telling  him  that  Usher  always  spoke 
of  him  with  ereat  respect,  and  yalued  highly  the 
snafif-box  witn  his  portrait  on  it  which  he  had 
given  him.  This  is,  I  think,  nearly  all  that 
passed,  except  that  he  once  asked  us  all  three 
whether  we  were  married,  to  which  we  answered 
teyerally  according  to  our  cases.  But  he  made 
no  obeeryation  whateyer  on  the  information  ho 
receiyed,  rather  to  our  surprise,  and  I  was  obliged 
to  make  a  bad  joke  or  two  on  Lowther's  bache- 
lorship, *  that  I  suspected  him  to  be  somewhat  of 
a  take,'  or  some  such  trash,  in  order  to  keep  up 
the  ball.  When  the  conyersation  had  lasted  half 
an  hour,  I  felt  a  scruple  about  staying  any  longer 
in  the  cabin,  into  which  we  had  been  brought  for 
the  purpose  stated  aboye  of  asserting  our  privi- 
lege to  be  there,  an  object  which  seemed  then  to 
be  sufficiently  attained.  It  would  haye  been 
unmanly,  I  thought,  to  haye  remained  any  longer 
than  was  necessary  for  the  purpose  in  question, 
nnce  our  stay  was  eyidently  distressing  to  the 
dethroned  emperor. 

[To  be  continued.] 


A  SUSSEX  WASSAILING  SONG. 

The  following  song  is  periiaps  worthy  of  a 
place  in  '*  N.  &  Q."  at  this  season  of  the  year,  as 
It  is  one  of  a  cUsb  fast  failing  into  obliyion.  I 
took  it  down  some  few  years  since  at  Hurstpier- 
poiitl  in  SoMex,  from  the  singing  of  an  old  farmer 
who  had  leant  it  in  his  youth.    I  haye  since 


heard  fragments  of  it  in  different  parts  of  Sussex, 
but  the  present  version  is  the  most  complete  I 
have  yet  obtained.  I  may  add,  that  a  copy  of  it 
is  given  in  Old  English  Songs  as  now  sung  hy  the 
Peasantry  of  the  Weald  of  Surrey  and  Sussex, 
This  interesting  work  was  privately  printed  in 
1813  by  the  Kev.  Mr.  Broadwood,  and  is  now 
very  rare.  The  tune  is  a  jovial  one  in  the  major 
key,  evidently  of  some  antiquity.  In  Mr.  Broad- 
wood's  collection  the  words  are  given  to  the  old 
minor  carol  tune,  "God  rest  ye,  merry  gentle- 
men " :  — 

**  A  wa.«)ail,  a  wassail,  a  wafisail,  we  bef^in, 
Witli  sugar-plum  mul  cinanion,  ami  other  spices  in ; 
With  a  wassail,  a  wassnil,  a  jolly  wassail. 
And  may  joy  come  to  you,  and  to  our  wassail  I 

•*  Good  master  and  good  mistress,  as  you  sit  by  the  fire. 
Consider  us  poor  wassailers,  who  travel  through  the 
mire, 
With  a  wassail,  &c. 

"Good  master  and  good  mistress,  if  yon  will  be  but 
willing. 
Come  send  us  out  your  eldest  son  with  a  sixpence  or  a 
shilling, 
With  a  wassail,  &c. 

^  Good  master  and  good  mistress,  if  thus  it  should  you 
please. 
Come  send  us  out  some  white  loaf,    likewise    your 
Christmas  cheese. 
With  a  wassail,  &c. 

**  Good  master  and  fi^ood  mistress,  if  you  will  so  incline. 
Come  send  us  out  some  roast  beef,  likewise  your  Christ* 
mns  chine. 
With  a  wassail,  &c. 

"  If  youVe  any  maids  within  your  house,  as  I  suppose 
you've  none, 
Tho3'  wouldn*t  let  us  stand  a- wassailing  so  long  on  this 
cold  stone. 
With  a  wassail,  &c. 

•  "  For  we've  wassail'd  all  this  day  long,  and  nothing  we 
could  find, 
Except  an  owl  in  an  iv}'  bush,  and  her  we  left  behind. 
With  a  wassail,  &c 

**  We'll  cut  a  toast  all  round  the  loaf,  and  set  it  by  the 
fire. 
We'll  wassail  bees  and  apple  trees,  unto  your  heart's 
desire, 
With  a  wassail,  &c. 

**  Our  purses  they  are  empty,  our  purses  they  are  thin. 
They  lack  a  little  silver  to  line  them  well  within, 
With  a  wassail,  d:c. 

**  rtan;»  out  your  rilkcn  kerchief  upon  your  golden  spear, 
We'll  come  no  more  a- wassailing  until  anotlier  year. 
With  a  wassail,  &c." 

Edward  F.  Eimbault. 


THE  BIRTU-PLACE  OF  EXNIUS. 

Iwhndiae,  the  birth-place  of  this  poet  (bom 
B.C.  239),  is  interesting^  to  the  scholar  who  is 
travelling  over  the  Japygian  peninsula,  and  was 
the  only  object  that  brought  rae  to  Lecce,  thft 
capital  of  the  province  of  Otranto.  liOW»  \»  Wi^ 
site  o!  the  ancient  Luploe  or  B^\)ira,  Vnowi^i  V> 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4»:'  S.  IX.  Jan.  6,  72. 


classical  scholars  as  the  spot  where  Augustus 
resided  for  some  days  after  his  return  to  Italy,  on 
hearing  of  the  murder  of  Julius  Cn^sar  on  the  ides 
of  March,  B.C.  44  (Appian.  Civ,  Bel  iii.  10),  not 
Tenturing  to  advance  to  Brundusium  till  ne  re- 
ceived fresh  information  from  Home.  No  ancient 
remains  are  now  visihle,  nor  indeed  is  there  any- 
thing to  interest  a  stranger  except  perhaps  the 
church  of  Santa  Croce  and  an  antique  column  in 
the  public  square  said  to  have  been  brought  from 
Brundusium,  having  on  its  summit  S.  Oronzio,  the 

Eatron  saint  of  Lecce.  Verrio,  a  native  of  Lecce, 
as  adorned  many  of  the  churches  with  his  plant- 
ings: he  was  employed,  I  believe,  in  England, 
where  his  staircases  and  ceilings  are  mucn  ad- 
.  mired.  Where  are  they  found  P  One  of  the  gates 
of  Lecce  is  called  Porta  di  JRuggCf  and  this  was 
to  me  the  most  interesting  point  connected  with 
Lecce,  as  it  led  to  RhudisB.  Horace  (Carm,  iv.  8, 
20)  speaks  enthusiastically  of  the  '<  Calabne  Pie- 
rides, '  and  Ovid  (Ai-t,  Am,  iii.  409)  speaks  in  the 
same  high  strain : — 

**  Ennius  ememit,  CSalabris  la  montibas  ortus, 
Contiguiu  poni,  Scipio  magne,  tibi." 

About  a  mile  from  the  town  there  is  a  spot 
covered  with  olive-trees,  called  Rugffe,  and  here  it 
is  believed  that  the  celebrated  poet  was  bom. 
There  are  no  ruins,  but  an  inscription  was  found 
here  speaking  of  "Municipes  Rudini.'"  (Orell. 
3858.)  At  the  same  time  it  must  be  allowed  that 
Ovid  is  at  fault  when  he  speaks  of  mountains,  as 
there  is  nothing  within  thirty  miles  of  Lecce  that 
can  be  so  called.  This  has  led  some  to  look  for 
Rhudise  farther  north,  and  as  the  Tabula  gives  a 
village  Rudse  twelve  miles  W.  of  Rubi  on  the 
road  toCanusium,  it  is  not  impossible  that  it  may 
be  the  spot  where  Ennius  was  bom.  Though  I 
did  not  get  close  to  it,  I  was  sufficiently  near  to 
say  that  it  is  situated  in  Puglia  Pietrosa,  and  there- 
fore Ovid's  description  would  be  better  suited  to 
it  than  to  the  ffrove  of  olive-trees  near  Lecce. 

As  I  have  had  occasion  to  refer  to  Lecce,  it 
reminds  me  that  Mr.  Bates  (4*'»  S.  v.  435),  in 
answering  Mr.  J.  Dixon's  querv  (4^**  S.  v.  360) 
respecting  Lysiensis,  states  that  he  believes  that 
Thomas  Qeminus  was  a  native  of  Lecce,  hence 
called  Lysiensis.  This  I  doubt  very  much,  as  I 
find  in  my  notes  some  old  Latin  inscriptions  copied 
at  Lecce,  where  Lydensis,  and  never  Lysiensis,  is 
constantly  employed.  This  is  the  natural  deriva- 
tive from  Lycium,  which  was  its  Latin  name  in 
mediieval  times.  Galateo  speaks  of  the  '^populus 
Lupiensis,''  referring  to  the  inhabitants  of  Lecce. 
In  fact  Thomas  Geminus,  if  he  had  been  a  native 
of  Lecce,  would  have  designated  himself  Lupien- 
sis,  as  this  was  the  Latin  expression  that  would 
be  used  by  an  educated  man  when  speaking  of  his 
native  place. 

Then  Mb.  Bates  quotes  from  Adam  Clarke  to 
the  effect  that  *'  thp  quadragesimal  BermoDB  of 


Robert  Caracciolo,  bishop  of  Lecce,  was  printed 
at  Lecce."  Is  it  possible  that  Lecce  could  have 
had  a  printing  press  at  that  earlv  period  (1490), 
only  twenty  vears  after  its  establisnment  at  the 
Sorbonne  in  Paris  ?  No  doubt  two  hundred  years 
later  books  were  printed  there,  as  mv  edition  of 
Galateo  De  Situ  Japygim  is  dated  "  f.ycii  1727," 
and  printing  is  still  carried  on.  as  I  have  just 
procured  an  interesting  little  work  dated  **  Lecce, 
1870."    Itis— 

« Studi  sui  Dialetti  Greci  della  Terra  d'  Otranto  del 
Prof.  Dott.  Giuseppe  Morosi,  pr<»co<iuto  da  una  raccolta 
di  Canti,  Leggende,  Proverbi  e  Induvinelli  nei  dialetti 
medesimi." 

Then  I  would  ask  whether  Robert  Caracciolo 

was  ever  bishop  of  Lecce  ?  I  believe  him  to  have 

been  a  native  of  Lecce,  but  bishop  of  Aquino,  the 

birth-place  of  Juvenal.    He  was  the  author  of 

the  SpeccMo  della  Fede,  and  on  his  tomb  is  found 

the  following  inscription  by  Hermolaus  Barbarus, 

which  is  quoted  by  Battista  Pacichelli  in  his 

work  lying  before  me,  entitled  //  Repw  di  XapoH 

in  Prospettiva,  Napoli,  1703 : — 

**Maximas  Ecclesiae  ceu  Paul  us  pm^o  Kubertun 
Quinquaginta  annos  Concionatus  obit : 
Caracciolus  fuerat  Lyciensis,  Prtpsttl  Aquimts, 
Hoc  tectua  tumulo,  corpore,  mente,  polo." 

His  contemporary,  Pcntanus,  says  of  him, 
"  Nemo  post  Paulum  Tarsensem  melius  liuberto 
Lyciensi  divina  tractavit  eloquia." 

Crauffrd  Tait  Ramage. 


THKEE  LETTERS  WRITTEN  BY  CHARLES  I 
WHEX  PRINCE  OF  WALES,  ON  THE  SUBJECT 
OF  Ills  MARRIAGE. 

On  April  6, 1624,  Charles,  then  Prince  of  Wales, 

gave  a  solemn  promise  to  the  two  Houses  of  Par- 
ament,  confirming  it  with  an  oath — 

"Tliat  whensoever  it  Bhould  please  God  to  bestow  upon 
him  any  lady  that  were  Popbh,  she  should  have  no  further 
liberty  but  for  her  own  family,  and  no  advantap^e  to  the 
recusants  at  home."     {Commons'  Joumah,  i.  75C.) 

As  everyone  knows,  this  oath  was  broken,  but, 
as  far  as  I  am  aware,  no  one  has  inquired  what 
evidence  there  is  as  to  whether  he  was  guilty  of 
telling  a  deliberate  falsehood  to  Parliament,  or 
whether  he  merely  changed  his  mind. 

There  is,  however,  very  strong  evidence  to  show 
that  when  the  words  were  uttered,  Charles  meant 
what  he  said.  The  despatches  of  the  French 
ambassador,  Tilli^res,  are  full  of  references  to  the 
infatuation  of  the  English  Court  in  supposing  that 
the  marriage  with  Henrietta  Maria  could  be  had 
on  these  terms.  When  Carlisle  went  tojoin  Ken- 
sington in  negotiating  the  marriage  in  France,  he 
carried  with  him  instructions  answering  to  the 
Prince's  engagement,  which  had  indeed  been  con- 
firmed by  we  king  in  his  answer  given  on  April  2.3 
to  the  petition  of  the  two  houses  for  the  execution 
of  the  laws  against  the  recusants : 


4'»  S.  IX.  Jas.  6.  Ti] 


NOTES  AND  QUEltlES. 


•.faouia  to  loag 

genenll  cb«DH 
ponll  laweiWi 

coiueiiud  to  B 

■nicle*  of  the  trutie  of  man 
}n>«  maj  ahow  them  timt.  in  t1 
tbe  ■rtidea  ocn  neilbv  r  ilcnui 

the  porlioQ  might 


e  or  ■]l«rtck>Q  in  onrcccteaiAAtirallortem^ 
iching  reli(;ioD.  for  so  much  u  concerns  our 
And  if  it  »li«lbe  oLjkIecI  to  you  Ihat  wot 


t^hlve 

tntiun.  el  though 
chillenged  or 

Jie  Breuti.™  ol 

'wE' i' ide^  M»t^ 
made,  ind  the  hope  we 
Piila(ia*t.    And  we  th 
on«  for  the  lender  reipe 

Z 

n  that  point 
eived  of  the 
her  ineliced 
e  hid  not  Co 

lu  to  do,  isd  >U  that  were  pouible  migl 
it.  Too  mav  furtbtr  rrprewat  Co  that 
wee  BMd  in  the  tima  of  bl«  endesvoura  t 
of  the  reformed  relipon  lo  llie  condicio 
tbeu  ;on  nay  ahewe  him  that  the  exami 
ing  fur  libertv  to  our  Uomaine  Catholiqi 


and  ought  to'lsach  us  to  doe  the  like  for  Cho  P'rotealania 
hia  tutyjecta,  and  niih  gicaler  nasoa  and  pretext,  they 
haTing  a  kinde  of  legatl  interral  in  tbe  fruition  of  Ibeir 
conadinces  and  exercJH  of  Iheire  oonaciences,  and  exer- 
aie  of  theire  religion  ....  there  being  noa  lucb  thing  in 
the  cue  of  oar  Kuinruiie  Calboliqae  lubjects.  !4eittaer 
c«n  it  bee  douhlid,  when  oar  piety  and  lenity   '    "  ' 


Komi 


Cubdiqng  nibjeetg  ever  alnce  our  coming  to  Ibia  Crown 
hullul  it  i*  a  juat  allegation  that,  for  our  own e  ufetv, 
nerty  of  onr  state,  and  for  CIm  saftty  of  the  Romalue 
Catboliqnea  onr  subjects,  wee  may  not  diisolvc  or  generally 


ir  law 


For 


shall  biTe  (he  rajnes  tosed  id  Ibem,  they  may  by  abui 
of  favor  and  liberty  eonstravne  ns  (gontrar;  to  ou 
Utunll  affecxdoni^  to  deala  with  them  wllh  more  rigou 

fipenaatjon  and  liberty  to  our  Romalue  Uathotique  sat. 

grationa  handa.  And  yoa  may  assure  that  King  and  hi 
■linisters.  ihac  Id  C0Qtem[>lBt;ion  of  that  marriage,  we 
abilbe  tbe  rather  inclined  to  use  onr  subjects  liomai 
Catbolioks  with  all  favour,  aoe  lonf;  as  Ibey  shall  behav 
tbnuselTes  moderately  and   kacpinu  tlieir  consciences  t 


Aa  long-  u  Lit  VieuvUlo  w&a  in  olHcu  in  France, 
every  effort  was  made  to  winciliate  Jaiuts,  It  is 
true  that  be  was  tcld  tbnt  tbe  French  would  Dot 
be  content  with  a  verbal  engagement  Dot  to  per- 
MCQte,  but  miut  bate  b  written  promiae.  But  Ln 
Vieaville  was  oue  of  tboi>e  men  who  dn  not  like  U> 
look  difficulties  in  tbo  face,  and  on  Jitnu  14,  Car- 
lisle wrote  that — 


"They  do  here  let  ful 
bound  to  make  these  hit;l 
tbe  satisfaetion  of  thoae 
tiealariy  for  the  faciliuilng  of  _ll 


that  thongh  they  a 
I  for  their  own  honou 
ihollc  party,  and  pa 
dispensalioD  at  Kom 
ilujeity's  power  to  put  ll 


!  B7  Cbarlea,  nt  least,  tbe  lirst  sifp  that  moie 
j  would  bo  nskeil  than  ha  had  offered  w«a  received 
I  tvith  dissatisfaction.  On  June  6,  Tilli^res  wrote 
j  that  an  emissary  whom  he  ]iad  emploved  to  the 
I  rrince— "  I'a  tmuni  forte  dur,  et  avec  peu  de 
I  desaein  de  satisfflire  a  la  i'raoce  aui  points  lea 
I  plus  essenliels.''  Under  these  circumstances  La 
Vieuville  allowed  Kensington  to  go  over  to  Eng- 
land offerin):  to  agree  to  a  middle  course.  Jamea 
would  not  be  a«ked  to  make  a  forntal  engage- 
I  mentj  but  let  hiin  write  a  letter  embodying  Ihu 
intentions.  To  this  James  consented ;  but  hit 
concession  wsa  useless.  La  Vieuville,  who,  it  ia 
I  said,  liad  taken  the  step  of  asking  for  the  letter 
!  without  informing  Lis  master,  was  turned  out  of 
office  and  succeeded  by  Richelieu.  Uichelieu  was 
lirui.  A  formal  article  he  must  have,  or  there 
would  be  no  marriage  at  all. 

Here  Jamea  wna  Urm.  A  letter  might  convey 
his  meaning  in  any  form  he  pleased.  An  ftrUcle 
was  a  direct  breach  of  his  son's  promises.  Ilia 
arguments  may  fairly  be  takeiL  from  a  later  de- 
spatch of  Conway's : — 

"  His  Majestie,"  wrote  the  Secretary  about  the  26u>  of 
September "cannot  bee  wonne  to  any  more  in  lardge- 

Ibis  kingdome  what  promise  the  Prince  hath  made  and 
the  King  approved,  not  to  enter  Into  article*  or  conditions 
with  any  other  Prince  for  the  emuuilyes  of  hit  subjecta 
Romaiue  Catholiqucs,  that  beeing  indeeda  to  part  bis 
soveraignity,  and  give  a  portion  of  it  to  another  King, 
and  leache  his  people  reiyancfl  upon  a  forniigne  Priait, 
by  whose  favour  they  e»joy  fteedome  and  liberly."  * 

But  James  bad  a  formidabje  difficulty  to  con- 
tend with.  The  new  French  ambawador,  Effiat, 
a  second  Gondomnr  in  knowledge  of  tbe  world  and 
in  diplomatic  akill,  had  completely  won  ovet 
Buckingham  to  bia  eide,  atid  Buckingham  Unallj 
brought  Jamea  over,  reluctant  aa  be  was, 

Charles's  conversion  may  be  graduntlr  traced  in 
three  letters,  the  originals  ofwhich  are  t^l  amongst 
the  French  State  Papers  at  the  Record  Office, 
the  first  of  them  having  been  printed  incorrectly 
from  a  copy  in  the  ClarenJou  State  Papers  (vol.  ii. 
chap,  ii.)  They  are  all  lo  the  Earl  of  Carlisle. 
The  first,  written  on  August  l-'J,  was  as  followa: 

"Carlile,— ThechauEws  which  vou  (propheliclie)  fore- 
towld  of  the  Coarte  uf  France  lies  much  ostonicbed  ua 
liere  ;  but,  most  of  all,  the  French  King's  disavouing  of 

St.  Thomas  (or  brliviujj  uf  anie  good  ishew  of  your  nego- 
Ualion.  If  you  fynd  they  persist  in  this  new  war  that 
they  have  L^unn  in  muking  an  article  for  our  Koman 
Catholiii  subjects,  dallic  no  more  with  tbem,  but  breaks 
<>fu  the  treatie  of  marriage,  keeping  the  frendihipe  ia  as 
faira  learmes  as  ye  can.  Aad.  heliva  it,  ye  will  have  as 
^ale  hunnor  witli  breaking  upon  these  learmes  J,  as 

•  HarL  M3.  Ii8«,  ful.  SGfi. 

t  /.  e.  diaavowiug  the  offer  made  by  La  Vieuvilla 
Ihrough  Kensington. 

I  (Jharles  originally  wrote  "  with  this  fickle  nation." 
but  carefully  deleted  the  vordswith  his  pen.  In  the  copy 
in  the  (JUrendon  titale  Papers,  tbey  are  left  atandiDg. 


8' 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  S.  IX.  J  Ay.  C,  7* 


with  making  the  alliance.  Y«t  use  what  indastrie  you 
can  to  reduce  them  to  reason,  for  I  respect  the  person  of 
the  ladie  as  being  a  wortbie  creature,  iitt  to  bee  my 
wyfe.  But  as  ye  love  m(>,  put  it  to  a  quike  isbew  on 
way  or  other,  and  what  event  soever  the  business  shall 
have,  I  shall  ever  remaine 

**  Your  constant  loving  friend, 

**  Charles  P. 
"Rufford,  the  13  of  August,  1624." 

The  next  letter  is  couched  in  a  marvellously 

different  tone.    It  was  written  on  September  9, 

the  French  having  conceded   nothing,   and  the 

situation  otherwise  remaining  unchanged : — 

**Carlile, — If  the  answers  to  your  de^paches  com[e] 
not  60  fast  as  you  desyer,  or  as  (it  inay  be)  th[el  busi- 
ness requyrea,*  blame  mo  not,  for  the  King  [and]  espe- 
cially our  Committie  arc  so  slow,  that  if  it  fwerel  iiot 
for  me,  I  thinke  we  should  be  twice  as  riongj  on 
answering  you.  The  business  now  is  a[li]  brought  to 
so  good  an  ishew,  that  if  it  [is]  not  spoild  in  Rome,  I 
hope  that  yfour]  treatise  will  be  shortlie  bronght  to  a 
happie  concrusi[on],  wherfor  1  pray  you  warn  your  Mon- 
sera  t[hat  |  the  least  streching  more  breakes  the  8tri[ng], 
and  then  Spainc  will  lafe  at  us  both.    So  I  rest 

"  Your  constant  loving  frend 

**  Cf lARLKS  P. 

**  I  know  ye  looke  for  tbflkes  for  what  ye  have  done, 
but  although  ye  deserve  it  now,  ye  shall  have  none  while 
all  bo  done,  and  then  ye  shall  have  as  much  as  your 
bake  can  Ixrare. 

"  Whythall,  the  9  of  Sep.  1624." 

For  all  this,  the  string  bore  more  stretching 
without  breaking.  For  more  than  a  month,  James 
giving  way  step  by  step  in  matters  of  detail,  held 
out  on  the  main  point.  Let  the  final  result  be 
told  in  Cliarles's  own  words.  The  third  letter  was 
written  on  October  19 : — 

"  Carlile, — Your  despach  with  Larking*  gave  us  anuffe 
adoe  to  keepe  all  things  from  an  unrecoverable  breache, 
for  my  father  at  first  startled  vcrrio  much  at  it,  and 
would  scarce  heer  of  reason,  which  made  me  feare  that 
his  avcrsness  was  built  upon  som  hope  of  good  overtures 
from  Gondumar  (who  they  say  is  to  be  shortlie  heer, 
tho  I  belvjeve  it  not),  which  made  [me]  deale  plainlic 
with  the  King,  telling  him  I  could  never  mach  with 
Spain,  and  so  intreated  him  to  fynd  a  fitt  mach  for  me. 
Tnough  he  v.as  a  littel  angrie  at  first  at  it,  yet  afterward 
he  allowed  our  opiniims  to  be  reason,  which  befor  he  re- 
jected; so  that  now  I  hope  all  dificultieson  both  sydes 
be  overcum.    Thu  King  cats  for  mo,  so  I  r&tt 

"Your  loviug  constant  frond, 

**  ClIAICI.Eo  P. 

•*Kovston:  the  19  of  8»«^,  1C2I.'* 

It  was  ft  natural  consequence  of  this  resolution 
that  Parliament,  which  James  had  promised  to 
summon  in  November,  was  prorogued,  and  that 
accordingly  there  was  no  money  to  provide  for 
Mansfeld'a  troops,  wlio  were  consequently  left  to 
starve.  Yet  when  Charles  met  his  first  Parlia- 
ment next  year,  he  had  nothing  to  say  except 
that  it  had  drawn  him  into  the  war  and  must 
find  him  means  to  carry  it  on.     What  were  the 

*  Letter  of  the  L'Jth  by  Lorkin  telling  of  the  refusal 
of  the  French  to  promise  formally  to  make  a  league 
with  England  for  the  recovery  of  the  Palatinate  by 
means  of  Mansfpld*s  troops. 


causes  which  led  to  Charles's  resolution  to  break 
his  promise  is  a  story  too  long  to  tell  here,  but 
there  can  be  no  doubt  that  he  intended  to  keep  it 
at  least  up  to  August  13. 

Samuel  R.  Gardiner. 


HOW  TO  DESCRIBE  A  BOOK. 

I  have  for  some  years  past  been  annoyed,  to  use 
a  mild  term,  by  the  excessive  carelessness  which 
the  contributors  of  "  N.  &  Q."  exhibit  when  thev 
have  occasion  to  mention  tho  title  of  a  book. 
Whether  for  the  purpose  of  asking  the  name  of 
an  author  of  an  anonymous  work,  or  citing  a  book 
for  reference,  want  of  accuracy  is  their  chief  cha- 
racteristic. So  far  as  giving  exact  references  to 
editions  and  pages,  the  Editor  has  pretty  well 
schooled  us  into  accuracy,  but  the  title  of  a  book 
is  a  different  matter.  I  need  not  cite  instances  in 
support  of  this  assertion:  every  number  bears 
evidence  of  it. 

Though  I  have  entitled  this  note  "How  to 
describe  a  Book,"  it  would  have  perhaps  been 
more  accurate,  but  not  so  interesting,  to  have 
simply  put  the  word  "Bibliography";  for  it  is 
upon  peveral  moot  points  regarding  bibliographical 
matters  that  I  wish  to  comment. 

It  seems  to  me  a  pity  that  a  science  which  is  be- 
coming so  popular  and  universal  as  the  knowledge 
of  books  and  proper  manner  of  describing  them 
should  be  encumbered  with  unwieldy  words  like 
bibliography,  bibliographical,  biographical,  anony- 
mous, anonymity,  pseudonymous,  and  others  of 
equally  portentous  sound.  The  unlearned  (and 
profitable)  trades  are  blesi»ed  vdth  words  to  de- 
scribe their  tools  and  productions  which  are  intel- 
ligible to  the  meanest  capacity.  ^ 

The  less  profit  the  longer  words  appears  to  be 
the  rule.  If  we  garden  we  use  a  spade,  a  hoe,  an 
axe,  a  barrow,  a  rake ;  if  we  row,  a  scull,  an  oar ; 
if  we  speculate,  we  have  money,  stock,  funds; 
even  if  we  go  to  law,  we  liave  bills  of  costs.  Ob- 
serve tho  simplicity  of  these  words.  Yet,  if  we 
study  to  make  proper  lists  of  book?,  we  cannot 
get  on  without  words  of  ten  to  fifteen  letters.  I 
make  these  remarks  as  they  occur  to  me,  without 
however  any  expectation  of  altering  the  nomen- 
clature, though  such  a  thing  hns  not  unfrequently 
been  done,  and  everybody  "will  recollect  tho  storm 
in  a  tea-cup  that  was  aroused  by  the  sliortening 
of  the  words  telegraphic  despatch  to  telegram. 
How  to  describe  a  book  is  so  simple  a  matter  that 
most  people  go  wrong,  quite  unconsciously  of 
coursti.  Every  Dody  thinks  lie  understands  a  tiling 
so  simple,  just  as  nearly  everybody — and  at  all 
events  all  literary  men — think  they  loiow  all  about 
cataloguing  and'libraries  because  they  are  literary 
men.  Ample  evidence  will  be  found  in  support 
of  this  assertion  in  the  blue  book  ou  the  library 
of  the  British  Museum.    The  fact  is,  unless  a 


*S.IX.  J«.«,'7->.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


mnn  bin  taken  the  trouble  to  etady  bibliogniplija 

little,  he  ia  never  sure  that  be  la  givins  such  a 
deEcripticin  of  n  book  aa  will  enable  anotuer  per- 
son to  identifj  it 

Professor  De  Morijan,  in  his  evidenfe  before  the 
1  ihe  British  Museum  (1850,  Hl-JS), 


"  1  hnnw  very  fei 


hemalkimu  indeed  that  I  would 
-ale  account  uf  a  mitbFnMlinU 
lUtvi  ther  hive  paid  speosl  uttentian  to  blblio- 
bibliogripbr,  the3-  «re  very  lihely  indeed  to 


The  learned  mathematician  i^oke  of  msthema- 
lidans  because  be  was  bo  leeraed  that  he  was 
prereated  from  using  geoeralities  when  of  his 
own  knnwledge  he  could  only  speak  aa  to  mathe- 
maCiciflDe,  but  what  he  say.i  applies  to  alt  Mr. 
Jtolton  Comey,  in  bis  excellent  pamphlet  On  ihe 
Jfinc  Geaeral  Biographieal  Dictiimary  (Loodon  : 
Shober],  1839,  8vo),  pointed  out  the  prevalenca  of 
this  fftult. 

It  i^  geocrallr  ndinittcd,  I  beliere,  at  lenst  it  is 
laid  down  by  a  gentleman  whom  1  may  consider 
fiD  authority  (Art  of  niakioff  Cataioffuea,  ^c.  [by 
l>r.  Crestudoro])  tliiLt  five  things  at  least  are 
necessary  to  deacribe  a  book  with  a  tolembte 
amount  of  certainty — title,  name  of  author,  place, 
date,  and  size.  This  is  for  a  catalogue  of  a  library; 
but  cntnlof^ues  of  libraries,  when  dene  at  all  (and  I 
believe  no  lar).-e  library  in  the  world  baa  yet  got 
a  complete  catalogue),  are  with  few  exceptions 
done  badly,  and  upon  a  low  bibliographical  standard. 
To  the  £vo  things  above -men  don  ed  I  should  add, 
u  not  the  least  important,  the  publisher's  name. 

It  ia  so  manifest  that  nil  tbeee  sii  things  are 
e'^ential  to  the  proper  description  oF  a  book,  that 
I  ahall  not  give  one  ward  of  argument  in  tlieir 
support.  But  fur  a  bibliographical  description  it 
may  be  aecesaary  to  add  the  number  of  pages,  the 
price,  whcrepiinted,  and  any  peculiarity.  It  is 
not  sufiiiient,  however,  to  give  these  particulars 
alone,  they  must  be  given  in  the  order  in  which  | 
they  occur  on  the  liile-pagt,  and  (bere  is  where 
nearly  everybody  sins  the  moat)  nothing  what- 
ever must  OH  interpolated  between  the  first  word 
of  the  title  and  the  Inst,  It  is  bad  bibliography  to  ' 
put  "8vn"  before  tbe  date,  as  "8vo,  1871."  It  j 
u  difflciilt  to  explain  this  part  of  my  subject  | 
without  an  illustration.  Let  us  suppose  the  fol-  , 
lowing  information  sent,  and  the  manner  of  it  is 
no  exaggeration  : — 

"  Sir, — Seeing  that  you  are  collecting,  with  a  , 
view  to  publication,  names  of  authors  of  the  nine-  : 
teenth  century,  I  beg  to  any  that  I  was  well  ac-  I 
qoiunted  with  Miss  Seaman,  who  died  about  the  ' 

Sar  IS30,  a  notice  of  whom  you  will  find  in  the 
yde  paprs.  She  wrote  Some  ObiemationB  on 
GirW  SchooU  and  lloariliug  Schooli,  but  whether 
with  her  name  or  not  I  forget.    Also,  about  1822 


wu  pabliahed  by  Smith  of  London  an  intereatja^ 

religious  tale  called  Lihj,  and  in  Ktmo,  I82S,  a 
capital  little  work  on  the  choice  of  books,  with 
advice  about  Miss  Edgeworth's  novela." 

It  will  be  evident  to  any  one  that  the  whole  of 
the  above  requires  veri Ben tion — a  labour  of  hours, 
perhapa  days,  wliicli  might  have  been  saved  by 
a  little  knowledge  on  the  part  of  our  informant. 

On  investigation  it  sppeora,  then,  that  our  in- 
formant has  acarcelv  given  n  single  date  or  title 
correctly— 1,  Wisa  Seamandied  in  1820,  nit  1830; 
2,  The  reference  to  the  Eyde  papers  is  uaeleas,  as 
too  wide  for  verification  and  inaccessible  ;  3.  The 
title  of  each  of  her  works  is  given  from  recollec- 
tion, or  rather  from  no  recollection,  and  they  ore 
alt  incorrect;  4.  The  titles  are  made  up;  6. 
Words  not  in  fho  title-pages  are  interpolated 
without  notice ;  0.  The  size  of  the  book  is  placed 
before  the  date^i.  e.  it  is  interpolated,  and  in  fact 
evervthing  is  reversed.  But  I  shall  best  be  able 
to  snow  what  ia  wanted  and  how  it  should  be 
done  by  giving  the  above  information  correctly, 
which  I  must  reserve  for  another  note. 

OLrnAB  IIamst. 


In  Mr.  Bruce's  elaborate  paper  on  tliia  curious 
article  n^ad  before  the  tjociety  of  Antiquariea 
on  the  4th  of  May,  18Uo,  and  published  with  a 
plate  in  tlie  Archaolix/ia  (vol.  xl.  part  ii.  p.  344 
et  scq.),  it  is  stated  that  tho  history  of  the  dial- 
clock  or  watch  after  tho  earl's  death  is  unknown. 
It  appears  from  Jardine'a  Vriininal  Triais  (vol.  c. 
pp.  371-2, 12mo,  1&J2)  that  the  three  divines  who 
attended  the  IHnrl  of  Essex  in  prison  were  Tbomas 
Montford,  William  Barlow,  and  Abdio  AshtoD, 
the  last-named  being  the  earl'a  favourite  chap' 
loin,  and  one  who  luscompanied  him  to  the  scalTold. 
William  Bnrlow  is  clearly  the  iadividunl  stated 
by  Mr.  Bruce  to  be  a  clergyman,  son  of  Bishop 
Barlow  of  Chichester,  and  the  learned  author  of 
a  scientific  book  oo  tbe  mariner's  coJiipKHS,  called 
The  Nnvv/ator's  Supply  (4tn,  Lond.  I'i!l7),  which 
be  dedicated  to  the  Earl  of  Essex.  Abdie  Ashtoa 
(for  whom  we  "N.  &  Q."  2-*  S.  viii.  18u9),  Fel- 
low of  St.  John's  College,  OaDibridge  (omitted 
by  the  Coopers},  was  the  second  of  tbe  seven  eons 
of  the  Kov.  John  Ashton,  Rector  of  Middleton, 
Lancashire,  and  is  named  in  the  J'wmaJo/A'icAoJIaf 
AJitton  of  JJownhiim,  Et^.,  in  1GI7,  edited  bj 
me  for  the  Chetham  Society  in  1848.  In  an 
abstract  of  bis  will,  which  is  dated  Middleton, 
August  27,  1033,  the  following  interesting  legacy 
occurs,  and  is  printed  in  a  note  in  Asaheton  a 
JoumaJ;  and  there  con  be  littie  doubt  that  it 
refers  to  the  identical  pocket-dial  made  by  Kyn- 
win,  described  with  so  much  aceurai^y  by    Mr. 


NOTES  AXD  QUERIES. 


[4'^S.  IX.  Jas.G,  72. 


;  described  in 


Middleton.  Esq,  my  best  Jewell,   my  W, 
Cloeke,  Biven  unro  me  by  my  moat  honoui 
Lorde  of  Easexe,  the  raoraing  before  lii»  di 

Milnrow  Tioar»se,  Rochdale. 

.(oh,  or  Pocket 
rahle  f.orde,  my 

F.  R.  R. 

OTHER  ■■liLVE  EOYS; 

n  to  call  the  portrait  of  any  boy 
m  a  Diue  areas  a  "  Blue  Coj,"  Ihat  unlesA  each 
case  is  closely  inveatigated  it  is  much  easier  to  be 
misled,  aa  Jackson  may  bare  been  about  Buttalt's 
"Blue  Boy,"  and  aa  Fulcher  waa  about  Ford's 
"Blue-coat  Buy,"  than  to  obtain  the  right  de- 
scription, as  we  have  experienced,  Sketcbes  alao 
pass  as  "  BluB  Boys,"  nu  matter  -what  size ;  and 

Shotographa,  eDgraTiDga,  and  chromoa  of  the 
troavenor  "Blue  Boy  "  are  now  rather  a  nume- 
rous family. 

The  sketch  whiuh  formerlv  belonged  to  the 
Bishop  of  Ely  was  sold  at  Christie's  in  18C4,  and 
if  we  are  rightly  iofomied,  it  was  afterwards  re- 
stored to  resemble  the  Oroavenor  "Blue  Boy  "  as 
much  as  possible,  and  then  sold  to  Lord  Elcho 
when  its  originality  was  gone.  Wheliier  thia 
sketch  subsequently  entered  the  Orosvenor  Gal- 
lery as  an  original  one  by  Gainsborough  or  not 
we  do  not  know,  but  among  the  pictures  lent  from 
that  gallery  for  the  conversazione  of  the  Civil 
Engineers  in  18G7  there  was  a  "  Finished  sketch 
of  'The  Blue  Boy.'  T.  Gainsborough,  R.A.," 
which  had  quite  a  newly  restored  look  about  it. 
Mr.  Hogarth  has  a  cleter  sketch  of  the  Orosvenor 
"  Blue  Boy  "  by  Fanny  Corbeaux.  Lord  Momiog- 
ton,  we  believe,  purchased  the  sketch  of  the 
"  Blue  Boy  "  at  Maclise's  sale  in  1870,  and  which 
Mr.  Hogarth  thought  to  be  more  after  the  least- 
known  "  Blue  Boy  "  than  the  rival  one. 

By  far  the  finest  and  largest  futl-leugth  sketch 
or  copy  of  the  "Blue  Boy"  we  have  yet  seen, 
excepting,  of  course,  the  two  hip  "  Blue  Boys," 
belongs  to  Chas.  Jas.  Freake,  Esq.,  Cromwell 
House,  South  Kenfington.  It  was  bought  at 
Brighton  a  few  yeara  a);o,  in  a  damaged  condition, 
for  ten  pounds,  hut  bj  whom  or  when  painted  ia 
not  known.  It  has  since  been  lined  and  restored 
after  the  Oroavenor  "  Blue  Boy,"  so  that  here 
also  whatever  originality  it  possessed  is  gone,  but 
still  it  is  A  fine  bright  picture — canvaa  about 
three  feet  in  height  by  two  feet  in  width,  or 
about  half  the  height,  and  less  than  half  the 
width  of  the  least-known  "  Blue  Boy,"  which  ia 
nearly  six  feet  in  height  by  four  feet  two  inches 
in  width. 

Of  "  Bine  Boys  "  in  other  than  Vandyke  cos- 
tumes we  maj  refer  to  the  portrait  of  Lieut. 


Col.  Maclauchlan' when 

«  N.  &  Q."  *"■  S.  iv.  41 ;  V.  p:.  _ 

Another  one,  repotted  as  in  2Corth  Wales,  was 
traced  to  Gl.isgow,  and  is  thus  described  by  the 
lady  who  possesses  it — 

"The  'Blue  Buy'  by  GaiaeLaroagli  wif  g^vtB  to  me 
by  Uiss  Griffiths  some  years  a^n.  I  heard  Ir  was  pre- 
sented by  tiainsttiroueti  nhen  rtaviiif;  In  Wales  tn  a 
friend  of  Miaa  Griffiths',  who  left  it' to  her.  It  is  not  n 
fUll-leneth  portrait,  and  tlie  dreai  h  n  li^ht-fittins  pluin 
blue  jacket  with  a  loose  white  lianJkerchiif  undtrneiith 
llie  Jacket." 

Even  the  blue-clad  in  tlio  B.iiley  frtniily  in  the 
National  Gallery  baa  been  stoutly  maintii.ined  lo 
be  "  The  Blue  Boy  by  Gainsboroiij;li  iu  the 
National  Collection. 

J.  Sewbll,  Assoc,  Inst.  C.  E. 

The  Lombard.  E.G. 


SUPERSTITION  IN  THE  GERM.\X  ARMY. 
The  soldiers  of  Germany  now  pass  for  the  best 
educated  and  most  intelligent  soldiers  in  the 
world.  This  is  no  doubt  true  of  thoi<o  who  do  not 
come  out  of  the  lowest  da-ses  of  society;  but  I 
doubt  the  superior  intelligence  of  those  who  do 
belong  to  the  lowest  classes.  At  all  events,  super- 
stition xeenis  to  be  rife  among  them,  and  super- 
stition is  not  generally  regarded  ns  a  mark  of 
intelligence.  The  following  charni  was  talteti  from 
a  German  soldier  during  the  lute  war,  and  brought 
over  to  England  by  an  English  surgeon,  whose 
name  1  have  forgotten.  In  a  lecture  which  he 
delivered  at  Cambridge,  he  said  th»t  the  charm 
■was  worn  and  firmly  believed  in  by  a  large  num- 
ber of  German  soldiers.  The  words,  which  I  copy 
from  a  photograph*  of  the  original,  run  as  fol- 

"  llaa,-  u-d  ScAKdirrr/ 

"  Im  N'smcn  dea  Vaters  und  des  Sohnes  und  des  heili- 
gen  Gcistes.  Amen.    L.  T.  L.  K.  H.  U.  K.  N.  K. 

"  Im  Namen  Gotten,  des  Vaters.  des  Sohn»  und  dex 
heili^ea  Geiftvs.— So  nie  Criati)  (nic)  im  OthlRarlen  still- 
eUnd,  BO  soli  allcs  GeschUtz  Millil  atelm.  Wer  diesen 
Brief  bei  sieh  trSgt,  den  wird  nichia  Ireifen  vnn  des 
Feindes  GeschULz,  und  er  wird  von  Diebcn  und  Miirden 
(lie)  gesicheit  sein.— Er  darf  sieh  niebt  fUrcbten  ror 
Degen,  Uewebren,  Plstolen,  den  Bi>  wio  man  auf  ibn 
aoBcbUgl.t  mllssen,  durcb  dan  Tml  und  Befeb)  Jesii 
Cbrista  (ii>).  alle  GcKhUlie  etllle  stelin,  ob  Sichtbar  oder 
nnsicbbar  A[\ea  darch  den  Uefehl  des  RngfU  Micbselln.im 
Kamea  Gottes,  des  Vaters,  des  Sohnes,  und  des  beiligen 

■  The  photograph  bears  on  the  back  the  name  of 
Maltby  di  Co.,  Bamsbury  Hall,  Islinf^lon,  London,  N.  I 
have  copied  titrbalim,  lileraliin,  and  pmKliuilim  (if  1  may 
coin  the  word),  and  therefore  neither!  nor  the  printormnst 
be  held  responsible  (br  the  very  numerous  misspellings, 
I  grammatical  and  other  inaccuracies,  which  are  lo  bo 
'da  few  of  the  most  gbrinK 


The  . 


entally  tl; 


used  printed. 


4th  s.  IX.  Jax.  C,  72.] 


XOTES  AND  QUERIES; 


11 


Geistes. — Gott  sei  mit  uns. — Wer  diesen  Sej^cn  bei  sich 
trilgt,  der  wird  fiir  {sic)  feindlichen  Kngeln  geschiitzt 
bleiben.  Wer  dieses  nicht  glauben  will,  der  schreibe  ihn 
ab,  hange  ihn  einem  Hiinde  um  des  {sic)  Hals  iind 
scbiesse  auf  ihn,  so  wird  ehr  sehen,  dass  der  Hund  nicht 
getroffen,  und  dass  es  war  ist,  auch  wird  derjenige,  der 
an  ihn  glaupt  nicht  von  dera  Feinde  gefangen  genoinmen 
werden.— So  wahr  ist  es,  das  Jesus  Christus  auf  Erden 
gewandelt  hat,  und  jen  Himrael  gefahm  ist,  so  war  ist  es, 
das  Jeder  der  an  discn  Brief  glaubt,  vor  alien  Gewehren 
und  Waffen  im  Namen  des  lebendigen  Gottes,  des  Vaters, 
des  Sohnes  und  des  heiligen  Geistes  unbeschildigt  bleiben 
soil. — Ich  bitte  im  Namen  unsers  Herm  Jesu  Christi  Blut, 
das  mich  keine  Kugel  treffen  m5ge,  sie  sei  von  Gold, 
Silber  oder  BleL  Gott  im  Himrael  halte  mich  von  alien 
frei.  Im  Namen  Gottes  des  Vaters  des  Sohnes  und  des 
heiligen  Geistes, dieser  Brief  ist  vom  Himmelgesandt  und 
im  Jahre  1724  (?)  in  Holstein  gefunden  worden  und 
scbwebt  liber  die  Taufe  Magdalenas,  wie  man  ihn  aber 
angreifen  wollte  wich  er  zurilck  bis  zum  Jahre  1791  bis 
itich  Jemand  mit  dem  Gedanken  ntlbrte,ihn  abzuschreiben. 
Femer  gebietet  er,  das  derjenige,  welcher  am  Sontage 
Arbeitet,  von  Gott  verdaromt  ist.  ich  gebe  each  sechs 
Tage,  cure  Arbeit  fortzosetzen  und  am  ^*ontage  frlih  in 
die  Kirche  zu  gehn,  die  heilige  Predigt  und  Gottes  {sic) 
za  hohren,  werdet  ihr  das  nicht  than  so  werde  ich  each 
strafen.  Ich  gebiete  eucb,  dass  ihr  des  Sontags  frllh  in  die 
{tic)  Kirche  mit  Jedermann  Jung  and  Alt  and&chtig  fUr 
eure  SUnden  betet,  damit  sie  euch  vergeben  werden, 
8chw(3ret  nicht  boshaft  bei  meinem  Namen,  begehrt  nicht 
Silber  oder  Gold,  und  sehet  nicht  auf  fleischliche  LUste 
and  Begierden  den  sobald  ich  euch  erscbaffen  habe,  so- 
bald  kann  ich  each  wieder  vemichten.  Einer  soil  den 
andern  nicht  tod  ten  mit  der  Zunge.  und  solltet  nicht 
falsch  gegen  Euren  NUchsten  hinterm  KUcken  sein. 
Freaet  each  eure  (sic)  GUter  und  eures  Reichthums  nicht. 
Ehret  Vater  und  Matter,  redet  nicht  falsch  Zeugnisch  {sic) 
wieder  den  NScbsten,  so  gebe  ich  euch  Gesundheit  und 
Segen.  Wer  aber  diesen  Brief  nicht  glaubt  and  sich 
nicht  damach  richtct.  Der  wird  kein  GlUck  and  Segen 
haben.  Diesen  Brief  soil  einer  dem  andern  Gedrakt  oder 
geschrieben  zukommen  lassen  and  wenn  ihr  so  viel  Siln- 
den  gethan  h&ttet,  als  Sand  am  Meere  and  Laub  auf  den 
Bftaroen  und  Sterne  am  Himmel  sind  sollen  sie  each  ver- 
geben werden.  Wenn  ihr  glaabt  and  that,  was  dieser 
Brief  euch  lehrt  and  saget  wer  aber  dass  nicht  glaubt, 
der  soil  sterben.  Bekehrt  each  oder  ihr  werdet  gepeinigt 
werden,  und  ich  werde  euch  fragen  am  jtlngsten  Tage 
dann  werdet  ihr  mir  Antwort  gebben  mUssen  wegen  euren 
yielen  SUnden,  Wer  diesen  Brief  in  seinem  Hause  hat, 
oder  bei  sich  trttgt  dem  wird  kein  Donnerwetter  schaden 
::nd  ihr  sollt  von  Feuer  Wasser  und  alle  Gewallt  des 
Feindes  behUtet  werden.  In  Schleswig  Hollstein  hatte 
ein  Graf  einen  Diener,  welcher  sich  flir  seinen  Vater 
B.  G.  H.  das  Haupt  abschlagen  lassen  wollte.  Als  nun 
solcbes  geschehen  sollte,  da  versagte  der  {sic)  Scharf- 
richters  Schwert,  and  er  konnte  ihm  das  Haupt  nicht 
abscblagen.  Als  der  Graf  dieses  sab,  fragt  er  den  Diener 
wie  es  zaginge,  dass  das  Schwert  ihm  keinen  Schaden 
zufilgte,  worauf  der  Diener  ihm  diesen  Brief  mit  den 
Buchataben  LTLKHBKNK  ze^te.  Als  der  Graf 
dieses  sah,  befahl  er  dass  ein  Jeder  diesen  Brief  bei  sich 
tragen  sollte. 

"  Dieser  Brief  ist  besser  den  Gold." — 

For  the  benefit  of  those  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q.'* 
who  are  not  familiar  with  GermaD,  I  subjoin  a 
brief  account  and  summary  of  the  above :  — 

The  charm  came  down  from  God  in  1724^  and 
hovered  about  some  representation  of  tlie  baptism 
of  Mary  Magdalene  in  Holstein^  refusing  to  be 


caught,  until  1701,  when  some  one  had  the  happy 
thought  to  copy  it  as  it  hovered.  The  essence  of 
the  charm  seems  to  consist  in  the  letters  L  T  L 
K  II  B  K  N  K,  pronounced  in  the  name  of  the 
Father,  Son,  and  Holy  Ghost.  Whoever  wears 
the  charm  need  have  no  fear  of  thieves  or  mur- 
derers, swords  or  firearms  of  any  sort,  neither  will 
he  receive  injury  from  storm,  tire,  water,  or  any 
assault  of  the  evil  one;  nor  will  he  be  taken 
prisoner.  No  bullet  will  strike  him,  be  it  of  gold, 
of  silver,  or  of  lead.  Whoever  doubts  this  may  hang 
the  charm  round  a  dog's  neck,  and  shoot  at  him : 
he  will  find  that  he  cannot  hit  him.  The  greater 
part  of  the  charm,  however,  consists  of  pious  ex- 
hortations couched  in  biblical  language,  threats 
of  evil  to  those  who  disbelieve  in  it,  and  promises 
of  reward  to  .those  who  believe  in  it  and  do  what 
it  enjoins.  It  concludes  with  a  tale  bearing  wit- 
ness to  its  efficacy,  and  well  calculated  to  inspire 
confidence  into  a  superstitious  soldier.  A  certain 
count  in  Schleswig  Holstein  had  a  servant,  who 
had  given  himself  up  in  his  father's  stead  to  have 
his  head  cut  off".  The  executioner  stood  up  to 
perform  his  office,  when,  lo  and  behold,  his  sword 
was  powerless  in  his  hands!  The  count  seeing 
this,  asked  the  servant  how  it  was  that  the  swora 
did  him  no  harm,  and  the  servant  showed  him 
the  charm  with  its  mystical  letters.  Whereupon 
the  count  gave  orders  that  everyone  should  wear 
this  charm  about  him. 

Is  there  an  English  soldier  would  wear  such  a 
charm  and  believe  in  it?  I  hope  and  believe 
there  is  not.  F.  Chance. 

Sydeuham  Hill. 

The  **  Scales  op  Justice"  no  longer  a  Fable. 
On  Monday,  Dec.  4,  at  the  Warrinj^ton  Borough 
Court,  before  the  mayor  (Joseph  Davies,  Esq.), 
H.  Bleckly,  Esq.,  and  C.  Broadbent,  Esq.,  Patrick 
Flanaghan  was  charged  with  having  had  an 
UDJust  half-pound  weight  in  his  possession.  The 
mayor  requested  the  clerk  (Mr.  H.  Brown  White) 
to  see  how  many  quill  pens  would  be  required  to 
balance  the  scales  when  the  just  and  unjust 
weights  had  been  placed  at  either  end.  They 
would  fine  the  defendant  one  shilling  for  each 
one.— Mr.  White:  "Nine  will  make  the  scales 
balance." — The  Mayor :  '^  Then  we  will  tine  the 
defendant  one  shilling  for  each  one."  I  owe  it  to 
Warrington,  which  is  a  Lancashire  town,  to  say 
that  all  the  three  justices  named  above  are 
Cheshire  men.  M.  D. 

Madame  de  Genlis. — Among  the  interesting 
letters  I  lately  mentioned  as  being  addressed  to 
Madame  de  Genlis  is  one  of  Prince  Talleyrand, 
who,  you  will  see,  attached,  like  J.  W.  Croker, 
great  value  to  her  correspondence.  Although 
written  on  Sept.  4, 1805,  nine  months  after  the 
coronation  of  Napoleon  (in  Notre-Dame  by  Pope 


12 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4th  s.  IX.  Jan.  6,  72. 


Pias  Vn.),  TalleyraDd,  from  old  habit,  continued 
to  use  the  Republican  calendar.  Bouillet,  in  hw 
Dtdionnaireuniverml  (VIIuftoire,8Aya  that  Madame 
de  Genlis  published  in  1817  part  of  Dancreau's 
Memoirs,  but  Talleyrand  alludes  to  this  publica- 
tion in  1805  already.  Who  may  well  be  ^^ma 
petite  JUiCf  avec  une  robo  blanche  "  he  speaks  of  P 
Here  is  a  copy  of  the  letter  in  his  well-known 
patten  de  moucJhes : — 

•*  Depuis  denx  jours  j*fli  «lc8  chevnnx  mis  pour  allcr 
vous  voir,  et  ma  petite  lille  est  avec  une  robe  blanche  ct 
sun  chapcau  de  paillc  me  prpsnant  dc  lui  faire  voir  Madame 
de  Silleri  ct  voulant  etre  soumise  h  son  jugement.  Mais 
il  nV  a  pas  moyen ;  il  faut  que  je  parte  ce  soir  pour  Stras- 
bourg. Tons  'me  faites  un  sensible  plaisir  quand  vous 
promettes  de  m'ifcrirc  ;  je  vmi*  en  remercie  de  tout  mon 
coBur.  Envoycs  vos  lettres  anx  relations  exterieures, 
mettes  sur  I'adresse  affaires  pertonneUes.  Je  vous  in- 
diqne  cctte  precaution  pour  ctre  bien  sfir  qu\me  liene 
dc  vous  ne  sera  pas  perdue.  J*ai  vu  h  lioulogne  chez 
r£mpereur  les  Mi-moiret  de  Dangenu^  ninis  il  pnrtoit  et 
n'a  pas  pu  me  les  prcter — peut-etre  les  aura-t-il  cniport^s 
4  Strasbourg,  alors  j'aurai  deux  ou  trois  bonnes  eoii^e^. 

"4  Vend,  an  14." 

At  the  top,  in  Madame  de  Genlis' s  equally  well- 
known  hand,  "  de  31.  de  Talleyrand." 

P.  A.  L. 

Proscription  op  Slano  Expressions. — 

"The  Chicago  Pont  has  issued  the  f<»l lowing  ukase: — 
•  Hereafter  every  reporter  in  t his  oOlcc shall  be  porsonnllv 
decapitated  and  shall  lose  his  situation,  who  shall  bo 
fi^ilty  of  the  use  of  any  of  the  following  barbarisms  of 
language :  "  Postmortemcd,  for  dissected ;  suicided,  in- 
fanticided,  &c. ;  acoidcntated  ;  indignated,  for  got  mad  ; 
disremembered,  disrecollect,  disforgot,  &c.;  ablated  for 
'washed  himself/  herself  or  itself,  as  the  case  maybe; 
sporn,  for  spared  ;  spondulix,  for  ducats ;  catastrophed ; 
scrumptious;  receptcd ;  planted  or  funeroled,  for  buried. 
And  any  editor,  reporter,  correspondent,  scribe  or  dead 
beat,  shall,  as  an  additional  peunlty,  be  put  on  hah  pay 
who  shall  write  *  on  Inst  evening,'  *  on  this  morning,* 
*on  yesterday,*  or  *  on  ten  o'clock  in  the  forenoon.'  " 

UXEDA. 

Fhiladelphia. 


€iutvici* 


WAS 


ANNA   BOLEYN    BORX  IN'   THE  CASTLE 
OF  CARRICK-ON-SUIR  ? 

I  trust  you  will  admit  that  the  following  rather 
well-writion  article,  which  appeared  in  a  late 
number  of  the  Limerick  Rejiffrtcr  and  'Tip]?erari/ 
Vitidii'otor,  is  worthy  of  a  place  in  the  colunirs  of 
*'N.  &  Q."  in  reference  to  a  late  notice  to  Cor- 
respondents in  "  N.  &  Q.**  in  which  my  name 
was  introduced. 

Maurice  Lenihax,  M.R.LA. 
Limerick. 

•*  Happening  to  be  in  Carrick-on-Suir,  the  Cattle  at- 
tracted my  attention.  In  an  architectural  point  of  view, 
it  is  on  a 'par  with  the  celebrated  halls  of  Hatfield,  Hard- 
wlok,  and  Hndden ;  indeed  in  some  respects  it  is  finer 
than  any  of  them,  but  they  are  praised  and  protected 
with  the  greatest  ctre,  and  while  Carrick  is  only  pre- 


served from  becoming  a  total  rnia  by  the  almost  iode- 
stntetible  nature  of  its  materials.    And  to  add  a  charm 
to  the  architectural  beauties,  it  is  not  wanting  in  tradi- 
tions of  the  past. '  One  of  them  rather  startled^me,  *  that 
there  those  eyes  first  saw  light,'  of  which  'twas  said  that 
*  Gospel  light  first  dawned  from  Bullen's  eyes.'    I  have 
tried  to  ascertain  what  foundation  there  is  for  this  tradi- 
tion, and  now  give  the  result  of  my  rather  superficial 
researches.    The  Castle  of  Carrick  belongs  to  the  noble 
family  of  Butler,  who  trace  their  descent  to  Rollo,  Duke 
of  Normandy,  ancestor  of  William  the  Conqueror.  Theo- 
bold,  nenhew  of  St.  Thomas  A'Becket  of  Canterburj% 
came  to  Ireland  with  Strongbow,  and  received  extensive 
grants  of  land  and  other  favours  from  Henry  the  Second, 
to  show  his  apparent  condemnation  of  the  murder  of 
St.  Thomas.     Theobold's  son,    also  *Toby'  (the  more 
usual  name)  married  the  daughter  of  John  Marries  or 
De  Marisco  (the  descendant  of  CicofTrv  de  Marisco,  who 
also  came  over  with  Stronglmw,  and  whose  estate  the 
Butlers  inherited)  and  their  son  Theobold  III.  was  Lord 
of  Carrick.    Edmund  Butler  was  created  Earl  of  Carrick 
in  1315,  two  years  before  the  title  of  Earl  of  Kildare  was 
conferred  on  the  rival  house  of   Fitzgerald.    Edmund, 
son  of   Sir  Kiohard  Butler,  built  Hhe  Castle  of  the 
Bridge  of  Carrick,'  probably  the  southern  or  oldest  part 
of  the  present  building :  he  died  in  1464.    Thomas,  Earl 
of  Carrick   and  Ormond,  who  died  in   1515,  had  two 
daughters,  Margaret  and  Anne ;  one  married  Sir  William 
Boleyn,  a  London  mercliant,  and  was  mother  of  Sir 
Thomas  Boleyn.  father  of  Anna ;    and  the  other  was 
married  to  Sir  George  St,  Leger.    As  Anna  was  four- 
teen or  fifteen  years  of  age  at  the  time  of  the  death  of 
her  great  grandfather,  it  is  quite  possible  that  she  was 
bom  at  his  residence,  Carrick  Castle,  to  which  her  father. 
Sir  Thomas,  claimed  to  be  heir,  as  next  of  kin,  and  after- 
words receivwl  the  titlo  of  Earl  of  Ormond  and  Carrick 
from  Henry  VIIL,  when  Anna  was  in  high  fiivour.     Sir 
Peirs  Butler,  the  next  male  heir,  being  induced  to  sur- 
render his  claim  to  the  title  on  being  created  Earl  of 
Ossory,  but  he  again  became   Earl  of  Ormond  on  the 
death  of  Sir  Thomas  liole^'n,  without  male  heirs  as  his 
only  son.  Lord  Bochfort,  was  executed  aln^ut  the  same 
time  as  his  sister,  Anna  Boleyn.     Sir  Peirs,  who  thus 
became  Eurl  of  Ormond  and  Carrick,  was  a  pious,  good 
man.    It  is  recorded  of  him  that  he  spent  the  lastfort- 
night  of  every  Lent  towards  the  end  of  his  life  in  a 
chamber  near  St.  Canice'f  Cathedral,  enga;]^edi  in  prayer 
and  good  w^orks.    His  son,  James,  was  the  first  of  the 
Irish  chiefs  who  signed  the  declaration  '  to  oppose  the 
usurpations  of  tlic  Bishop  of  Home,'  which  was  the  half- 
way house   between  Catholicity  and  Protestantism,  so 
that  the  Lord  James  Butler  of  the  present  day  has  here- 
ditary claim  to  the  leading  part  he  takes  in  the  reor- 
ganisation of  the  disestablished  church.   James,  who  was 
poisoned  in  Loudon,  was  succeeded  by  his  son  Thomas, 
then  only  fourteen  years  old  ;   he  was  reared  in  the  Eng- 
lish court,  and  greatly  distinguished  himself  during  the 
reign  of  IClizabeth  against  the  Karl  of  Desmond  and  other 
Irish  chiefi',  by  whom  ho  was  known  as  Bhick  Thomas, 
and  the  Virgin  Queen  sometimes  called  him  her  Black 
Husband.    11  o  repaired  and  beautified  the  castle  of  Kil- 
kenny and  his  house  of  Carrick,  where  he  resided  and 
died  in  1C14.     Very  probably  Lord  Thomas  not  only  re- 
paired and  beautified,  but  built  the  north-east  and' west 
sides  of  the  castle,  which  contain  the  principal  apart- 
ments.   As  before  stated,  it  appears  to  be  (juite  possible 
that  Anna  Boleyn  was  bom  in  Carrick  Castle  during  the 
lifetime  of  her  great  grandfather,  but  let  us  see  is  Uiere 
any  record  of  her  birthplace.    I  can  find  none.     Indeed 
there  is  a  tradition  verv  generallr  believed  in  the  locality 
that  she  was  bom  at  Blickling  l^all,  in  Norfolk ;  bat  the 
honor  ii  alao  daimed  by  two  other  places,  Rochefort  Hall 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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and  Ilever  Castle.  The  ven-  uncertainty  as  to  where 
she  was  born  goes  far  to  prove  that  it  took  place  in  Ire- 
land, particularly  as  at  the  time  her  father  was  naturally 
anxious  to  be  with  his  grandfather,  the  old  Earl,  then 
residing  at  Carrick,  and  whom  he  desired  to  succeed  in 
his  titles  and  estates.  So  that  the  probability  is  very 
great  that  the  old  tradition  al)ove  referred  to,  that  Anna 
first  saw  the  light  on  the  banks  of  the  Suir,  is  well 
founded,  and  the  old  castle  is  worthy  of  the  tradition.  It 
is  a  large  quadrilateral  pile  enclosing  a  central  court. 
The  more  ancient  front,  being  the  castle  proper,  faces  the 
Waterford  mountains  to  the  south,  close  to  the  reed}*^ 
banks  of  the  Suir,  which  can  be  seen  from  the  battle- 
ments for  miles  tlirough  the  lovely  vale  between  Clonmel 
and  Waterford.  This  part  of  the  building  is  of  the 
wdinary  castle  type,  but  the  other  three  sides,  probably 
built  by  Black  Tlioraas,  are  of  domestic  Tudor  architec- 
ture, and  must  originally  have  been  a  very  beautiful 
specimen  of  the  style.  The  principal  entrance  is  io  the 
north  front,  by  a  comparatively  small  door,  to  a  narrow 
passage,  having  the  portraits  of  Queen  Bess  and  Black 
Tom  Butler  on  either  side.  The  passage  leads  by  an 
abrupt  turn  to  a  noble  staircase,  the  steps  and  wainscot 
being  of  dark  oak,  and  the  oeillog  and  upper  part  of  the 
walls  richly  pannolled  in  stucco.  The  stairs  lead  to  a 
grand  hall,  at  the  east  side,  finished  in  the  same  manner, 
with  a  large  oriel  at  the  dais  end  which  communicates 
with  the  older  part  of  the  building.  The  stairs  also  lead 
to  a  fine  gallery  facing  the  north,  decorated  in  the  same 
style  as  tin}  hall  and  stairs,  with  o:ik  waiu^iCot  and  stucco 
pannelling,  charge<l  with  heraldic  devices.  The  chimney' 
pieces  are  elaborately  carved,  and  the  large  windows 
deeply  recessed.  Beyond  the  gallery  to  the  west  side 
are  the  drawing  room  and  other  apartments,  one  tra- 
ditionally named  after  Queen  Elizabeth,  but  more  likely 
after  one  of  Black  Tom's  Countesses  of  that  name,  as  he 
had  two.  The  stairs,  hall,  and  gallerj',  if  restored  to 
their  pristine  beauty,  would  excel  in  architectural  effect, 
as  they  do  in  dimensions,  the  far-famod  hall  of  Hatfield, 
of  which  the  Marquis  of  Salisbury  is  so  justly  proud; 
and  is  it  not  to  be  deplored  tliat  the  most  noble  inheritor 
should  allow  the  first  residence  of  his  family  in  this 
country  to  remain  neglected  and  uucared  for,  and  gradu- 
ally to  crumble  into  dust  ?  It  is  worthy  of  a  better  fate, 
and  as  a  work  of  bygone  art,  it  deserves  to  be  preserved, 
for  *  a  thing  of  beauty  is  a  joy  for  ever,'  as.  a  historical 
monument  (of  which  'we  have,  alas !  too  few  except  in 
ruins).  It  should  be  maintained  as  a  sacred  trust  for 
posterity  in  the  spirit  with  which  Earl  Thomas  be- 
queathed to  Sir  Thomas  Boleyn  and  his  heirs  for  ever 
the  *  white  born  drinking  cup  banded  with  gold  and 
silver,'  which  was  supposed  to  have  been  used  bv  St. 
Thomas  A'Becket." 

"  M.  M." 

[We  believe  that  there  does  not  exist  any  evidence  to 
prove  where  Anne  Bole^Ti  was  born.  Tradition  points 
very  strongly  to  Blickling  Hall,  Norfolk,  as  the  place  of 
her  birth  ;  but  Hever  Castle,  in  Kent,  and  Rochford 
Hall,  in  Essex,  also  claims  this  distinction.  In  the 
alienee  of  direct  evidence  to  the  contrary,  it  is  possible 
that  there  may  be  some  foundation  for  the  suggestion  in 
the  foregoing  paper ;  and  a  search  among  the  records  of 
Irdand  may  be  destined  to  settle  the  (question.  Where 
was  Anne  Boleyn  born  ?  ] 


Baugemjsn's  Roxg. — Con  any  of  your  readers 
inform  me  of  the  true  locality  to  which  the  fol*- 
lowing  mournful  ditty  belongs  ?  When  a  boy  I 
heard  it  frequently  sunff  by  the  bargemen  on  the 
nrer  Oalder,  and  one  mght  at  Cambridge  I  beard 


Die  same  chanted  by  a  bargeman  on  the  Cam. 
He  might  possibly  have  been  a  North-country 
man : — 

"  Our  captain  calls  all  hands  on  board  to-morrow, 
Leaving  my  dearest  girl  in  grief  and  sorrow  ; 
Dry  up  those  briny  tears  and  leave  off  weeping, 
How  happy  shall  us  be  at  our  next  meeting  ! 

"  *  Why  would'st  thee  go  abroad  fighting  for  strangers  ? 
I'd  have  thee  stay  at  home  free  from  all  dangers ; 
I'd  hug  thee  in  my  arms,  my  dearest  jewel ! 
Come,  stay  at  home  with  me — don't  thee  be  cruel. 

"  *  When  I  had  gold  in  store  thee  did'st  invite  me. 
But  now  I's  low  and  poor  thee  scem'st  to  slight  me : 
There's  no  believing  man — not  your  own  brother— 
So.  maids,  if  ye  must  love,  love'one  another.* 

**  Down  on  the  ground  she  laid  like  one  a-dying, 
WriUiTjing  her  hands  abroad,  sighing,  and  crying — 
*  He  courted  me  awhile  just  to  deceive  me. 
And  now  my  poor  heart  he's  got  he's  agidng  to  leave 
me. 
"  *  Farewell  my  dearest  dears,  father  and  mother. 
Don't  weep  for  your  dear  child  though  youVe  no 

other ; 
Don't  weep  for  me,  I  pray,  for  I's  a-going 
To  everlasting  joys  where  fountains  is  flowing.' " 

(Die*.) 

Possibly  there  may  be  some  omission  in  the 
foregoin;^  stanzas :  1  quote  from  memory.  When 
chanted  on  ^*  the  still  waters"  at  night  by  a  good 
voice,  in  the  Northern  dialect,  these  quaint  stimzas 
had  a  pathetic  and  touching  eftect.  R.  S.  E. 

Copenhagen. 

Charles  I.'s  Waistcoat.— Have  any  of  your 
readers  met  with  a  piece  of  the  waistcoat  worn  by 
Charles  I.  on  Jan.  .'50,  1640?  I  have  in  my  pos- 
session a  piece  of  rich  red  striped  silk,  brocaded 
with  silver  and  yellow  silk,  said  to  have  been 
worn  by  him  at  his  execution ;  and  shall  be  glad 
to  know  if  an}'  one  else  possesses  a  portion  of  the 
same,  and  can  give  an  authentic  account  of  its 
history.  .        W.  P. 

CnowBEXT. — What  is  the  derivation  of  the 
name  Chow  bent  ?    This  village  is  situated  about 
five  miles  from  Bolton,  Lancashire,  and  from  this 
I  argue  that  the  name  is  of  Keltic  origin.     In  this 
language  there  is    a  word  bent,   which    means 
thick  coarse  grass,  and  cltoiOy  meaning  covey ;  so 
that  the  whole  word  means  a  covev  of  coarse  ^ 
I  grass.     Can  any  one  tell  me  whether  I  am  right  in 
I  my  conjectures,  or  what  is  the  true  derivation  ? 
'     '  FiiEDEBic  Wood. 

Whinney  Field,  Halifax. 

*' Light  Christmas.'*  —  I  have  heard  the  fol- 
lowing saying  referred  to  the  neighbourhood  of 
Ledbury,  Herefordshire:  "A  light  Christmas,  a 
light  harvest."    Is  it  known  elsewhere  ? 

T.  W.  Webb. 

Cromwellian  Era. — I  have  a  MS.  poem  of 
this  peiiod,  and  I  should  like  to  know  if  it  has 
ever  been  published ;   and  if  so,  to  whom  it  ia 


14 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*»»  S.  IX.  Jan.  6,  72. 


attributed.    It  contains  280  lines,  is  without  title, 

and  commences — 

**  The  daye  is  broke,  Melpomine  begone, 
Hag  of  my  faccy  let  me  now  alone ; 
Nightmare  ray  soul  no  more,  go  take  thy  flight 
Where  traytors'  ghosts  hoop  an  eternal  night." 

In  the  body  of  the  poem  the  protectorate  of 

Eichard  Cromwell  is  alluded  to  thus  : — 

"  Richard  the  fonrthe  juste  peeping  out  of  Squire, 
Xo  fault  so  much  as  ih'  Old  one  was  his  Sire ; 
For  men  believM,  tho'  all  went  in  his  name. 
He'd  be  but  tenant  'till  the  Landlord  came.'' 

The  Ballot  Box  of  Harrington's  Oceana  is  thus 

glanced  at : — 

**  But  giddy  Harrington  a  whimsey  found 
To  make  her  head  like  to  her  braine  goe  rounde  " ; 

and  it  concludes — 

**  George  (Monk)  made  him  (Lambert)   and    his  cut 
throats  of  our  lives 
Swallow  theyr  swords  as  Juglers  doe  theyr  knives." 

It  is  prefaced  by  the  epitaph  of  Charles  I. 

usually  found  in  the  Eikon  Basilike  (see  "N.&Q.** 

2»«*  S.  V.  393),  but  with  the  lines  reversed,  and 

one  word  diiBTerent,  thus — 

''  Hie  jacet  intus, 
Non  Carolus  quintus 
Nee  Carolus  Magnus 
Sed  Carolus  Agnus.'* 

C.  Chattock. 
Castle  Bromwich. 

Rbv.  Henby  Dodwell,  Prebendary  of  Sartjm 
AJTD  Archdeacon  of  Berks. — Where  was  he 
bom.  educated,  and  buried  ?  Any  particulars  most 
gladly  received  by  Hana  e  Palfdibus. 

[It  was  the  Rev.  WiUiam  (not  Henrj')  Dodwell  who 
was  prebendary  of  Sarum  and  archdeacon  of  Berks.  He 
was  the  youngest  son  of  the  learned  Henry  Dodwell, 
Caknden  Professor  at  Oxford,  and  subsequently  non- 
juror. William  was  bom  at  Sbottesbrook,  Berks,  June 
17, 1609,  and  educated  at  Trinity  College,  Oxford,  He 
was  a  learned  divine  and  celebrated  preacher,  which  ob- 
tained for  him  several  considerable  preferments  in  the 
church.  He  died  Oct.  23, 1785,  in  his  seventy-fifth  year.  A 
list  of  his  numerous  works  is  given  in  Nichols's  Literary 
Anecdotes,  ii.  438.  Consult  also  Kippis,  Biographia  Bri- 
tattnicoj  v.  327,  and  the  biographical  dictionaries  of 
Chalmers  and  Rose.] 

Battle  of  Evesham. — Where  can  I  find  the 

old  lay  or  lament  about  the  battle  of  Evesham, 

commencing — 

"  Or  est  occiste  le  fleur  de  pris 
Qui  tant  savoit  le  guerre"  ? 

I  am  told  part  of  it  was  printed  many  years 
ago  in  the  Quarterly  Review ,  but  I  cannot  find 
the  passage.  Tnos.  E.  Winnington. 

[This  ballad  is  in  the  Harleian  MS.  2253,  art.  24,  and 
wa»made  after  the  battle  of  Evesham,  a.d.  1265,  when 
Simon  de  Montfort  was  blain,  and  the  rebellious  barons 
were  utterly  defeated.    It  commences — 
^*  Chaunter  mestoit  |  mon  euer  le  voit  |  en  un  dure  Ian- 
gage, 
Tut  en  ploraunt  |  fus  fet  le  chaunt  |    de  nostre  duz 
Baronage,  i 


Qe  pur  la  pees  |  si  loynz  apres  |  se  lesserent  de  trere. 
Lur  cors  trencher  |  e  demembrer  |  pur  salver  Engle- 
terre. 
Ore  eat  ocys  |  la  flur  de  pris  j  qu  taunt  savoit  de 

guere,* 
Ly  queus  Mountfort  |  sa  dure  mort  |  molt  en  plorra 
la  terre.'* 

The  poet  looks  upon  Mountfort  as  a  martjT,  and  regrets 
the  loss  of  Henry  his  son,  Hugh  le  Dispenaer,  Justice  of 
England,  and  others  who  then  lost  tbeir  lives.  This 
ballad  was  privatelv  printed  (together  with  three  others 
from  the  same  MS.)  by  Sir  Francis  Palgrave  (then  Fr. 
Cohen,  Esq.),  1818, 4to.  The  article  on  Simon  de  Montfort 
appeared  in  the  Quarterly  Review^  cxix.  26.] 

Unpublished  Letters  op  Edward  Gibbon. — 
Can  any  of  your  readers  tell  me  where  (except  in 
the  libraries  of  the  Earl  of  Sheffield  and  the  Due 
de  Broglie)  there  are  any  unpublished  letters  of 
Gibbon  the  historian  ?  W.  A.  G. 

Hastings. 

[Seven  letters  from  Edward  Gibbon  to  Edward  first 
Lord  Eliot  are  at  Port  Eliot,  Cornwall,  the  seat  of  the 
Earl  of  St.  Germans,  which  throw  considerable  light  on 
his  parliamentary  career — a  subject  barely  touched  in  his 
Autobiography.  The  same  library  contains  four  letters 
from  his  father  to  Edward  Eliot.  The  dates  of  them  are 
given  in  the  B^rst  Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on 
Historical  Mcmuscripts,  1870,  p.  41.] 

"  Join  Issue."  —  In  one  of  Bums's  letters  to 
Mr.  Thomson  (  Works,  ed.  1800,  iv.  13),  he  says, 
'*I  will  cordially  join  issue  with  you  in  the 
furtherance  of  the  work."  Bums  wrote  very  good 
English.  Is  this  an  accidental  slip,  or  is  there 
any  other  instance  of  the  phrase  being  so  used  ? 
I  need  not  say  it  is  the  opposite  sense  to  the  usual 
one,  which  too  has  an  express  derivation  in  the 
technical  description  of  a  legal  process. 

LyTTELTON. 

Manors  in  Beds  and  Salop. — I  wish  to  know 
who  was  the  lord  of  the  following  manors  in 
6  Henry  V. : — '*  Manor  of  Wildene,  in  the  co. 
Bedford;  manor  of  Appeley  in  the  co.  Salop.*' 
Who  was  Sir  Adam  Peshall,  Iinight,  who  lived 
at  Appeley  in  the  year  above-mentioned,  also 
"  Tloger  Willeley  "  ?  I  have  preserved  the  ori- 
ginal spelling  in  these  proper  names.  S. 

Molesworth  Medal.  —  I  wish  for  information 
respecting  a  fine  medal  with  a  profile  of  a  man  in 
a  helmet,  and  the  inscription  round  the  margin 
"  Ricardus  Molesworth.  Britann.  Trib.  Miles.* 
On  the  reverse  a  figure  of  Victorv  leading  by  the 
hand  a  warrior,  trampling  on  broken  artillery, 
with  motto,  "  Per  Ardua."  I  conjecture  that  it 
relates  to  Richard  Molesworth,  the  third  Viscount 
Molesworth,  who  saved  the  life  of  the  Duke  of 
Marlborough  at  Hamillies  or  Blenheim,  and  who 
subsequently  became  a  field  marshal,  &c.  Can 
you  inform  me  under  what  circumstances  the 
medal  was  struck,  by  whom  executed  (it  is  a  fine 
work  of  art  and  a  large),  and  whether  there  exist 
specimens  in  silver  as  well  as  bronze  ?  X. 


4^  S.  IX.  JAir.  6,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


15 


Correspond AXCE  de  Napgl^on  I. — Une  reTue 
anglaise  zi*a-t-elle  pas  public  des  parties  supprim^es 
dans  Tuition  officielle?  Quel  est  le  titre  de  cette 
reyue  et  le  n°  du  mois  ?  Un  Parisien. 

Mrs.  Stephens's  MEDicn^Es. — InSirJohnIIill*s 

Family  Merhal,  p.  254,  this  passage  occurs  : — 

"  Great  good  has  been  done  by  thotK!  medicines  which 
the  Parliament  purchased  of  Mrs.  Stephens." 

Where  can  one  get  any  account  of  these  medi- 
cines ?  What  was  the  amount  paid  to  her,  and 
why  was  she  singled  out  to  have  her  remedies 
purchased  ?  C.  A.  W. 

Mavfair,  W. 

H.  Peereboov. — I  have  an  oil-painting  on  oak 
(23  in.  high  by  30  in.  wide)  bearing  the  above 
signature.  It  is  a  work  of  considerable  merit. 
Subject:  Kxterior  of  Flemish  or  Dutch  tavern; 
travellers  refreshing  themselves  at  the  door; 
woman  drawing  water  from  a  well  for  their  horses, 
&C.  &C.  What  is  known  of  this  artist?  He  is 
not,  I  believe,  mentioned  by  either  Waagen,  Siret, 
Bryan,  Ottley,  or  Hobbes.  G.  M.  T. 

Taaffe. — Sir  John  Taaffe  of  Smarmor  had  by 
his  wife  Anna,  daughter  of  Viscount  Dillon,  be- 
sides other  sons^  Charles  described  in  the  pedigree 
compiled  by  Sir  W.  Bethara  as  "  Abbot  of  the 
Cistercian  Abbey  of  Boyle."  If  this  be  correct, 
who  tiben  was  Charles  Taafe  (married  to  a  Lady 

Susanna ^  living  in  1609,  and  who  held  a 

lease  mider  Theobald,  Earl  of  Carlingford  ? 

Charles  and  the  Lady  Susanna  Taaffe  are 
entirely  ignored  in  Sir  W.  Betham*s  pedigree, 
and  yet  it  is  clear  from  extant  records  that  they 
held  an  important  position  in  the  Taatfe  family. 

Tipxekers. — The  mummers  in  Hampshire  are 
called,  spelling  phonetically,  "  tipterers  ;  the  se- 
cond syllable  is  long,  tipterers.  What  is  the  deri- 
vation or  meaning  of  the  name  P  A.  D. 

Abbot  op  Glastonbury's  Watch. — At  the 
sale  of  the  clocks  and  watches  of  H.  R.  H.  the 
Duke  of  Sussex  was  sold  the  watch  of  the  last 
abbot  of  Glastonbury,  which  is  figured  and  men- 
tioned in  Warner's  Antiquities  of  ulastonburi/.  It 
is  described  in  the  sale  catalogue  as — 

**  A  highly  interesting  and  curions  hexagonal  watch, 
the  property  of  the  lost  abbot  of  Glai^tonbury.  It  bears 
the  makerVname,  Isaac  Symmes.  A  MS.  note  traces  it 
back  to  the  time  of  the  dissolution  of  tlie  abbey ;  also 
the  abbot's  seal." 

It  was  sold  for  0/.  6^.,  and  the  purchaser's  name 
was  Thorpe.  Can  any  one  tell  where  this  watch 
how  is  ?  OcTAVius  Morgan. 

Unjust  Weights.  —  Were  the  owners  of  de- 
fective weights  or  balances  ever  punished  by  the 
kMB  of  their  ears,  which  were  subsequently  nailed 
to  the  doors  of  a  prison  P  If  so,  where  shaJl  I  find 
a  record  of  such  a  punishment  ?  M.  D. 


"With  Helmet  on  his  Brow."  —  Is  this 
tune,  which  is  also  called  "  The  Old  Woman  of 
Romford,''  £nglish  P  I  ask  the  question  because 
very  recently  it  has  become  an  exceedingly  popular 
air  on  the  Continent,  and  particularly  in  French 
Switzerland.  I  suspect  that  it  has  been  intro- 
duced into  some  opera.  Who  wrote  the  words  to 
*'  With  Helmet  on  his  Brow,"  and  whose  name 
is  affixed  as  the  composer  of  the  music  P  If  the 
tune  be  English,  it  is  as  well  to  claim  it  at  once. 
Now-a-days  we  stand  a  chance  of  having  some 
of  our  best  national  tunes  prigged/  "Robin 
Adair  "  figures  in  concert  biUs  with  the  name  of 
Boieldieu,  **  The  last  Rose  "  is  given  to  Flotow,  and 
*'  Home,  sweet  Home  "  is  claimed  for  Donizetti. 
I  trust  that  some  one  learned  in  musical  notes 
may  be  induced  to  answer  this  "  note." 

Stephen  Jackson. 

Browne  Willis. — Where  is  Willis's  MS.  re- 
feiTiug  to  church  matters  in  the  beginning  of  the 
seventeenth  century  to  be  found  ?  Is  it  in  the 
Bodleian  Library  ?  M.  H. 

Sleaford. 


Heplietf. 


"GOODY   TWO    SHOES"  AND   THE   NURSERY 
LITERATURE  OF  THE  LAST  CENTURY. 

(4»'»  S.  viii.  510.) 

Most  cordially  do  I  agree  with  G.  T.  S.  "  that 
the  writer  of  Goodg  Two  Shoes  had  a  keen  insight 
into  the  mind  of  a  child,  and  a  wonderful  appre- 
ciation of  the  sort  of  story  to  please  the  *  spellmg' 
public,"  but  I  cannot  agree  with  W.  M.  asto  who 
that  writer  was.  In  the  MS.  of  QotdsmOhuma  now 
preparing  for  the  press,  I  had  already  fully  taken 
notice  of,  and  disproved,  the  tradition,  theory,  or 
assertion,  unsupported  as  it  is  by  a  single  proof, 
of  the  "  chapter  and  verse  "  of  W.  M.  With  all 
good  feeling  to  him,  whoever  he  be,  I  should  not 
have  noticed  it,  however,  till  the  publication  of 
my  new  work ;  but  on  seeing  the  important  and 
eloquent  article  in  "  N.  &  Q."  (4«>»  S.  viii.  510), 
I  felt  I  must  give  to  its  readers  a  little  of  the 
many  "  chapters  and  verses  "  I  have  read  in  New- 
bery's  "  renowned  "  little  volumes,  and  not  allow 
my  pen  to  rest  while  "  poor  Goldie  "  was  in  the 
slightest  danger  of  being  deprived  of  the  credit  of 
one  of  the  twenty  little  works  I  shall  introduce  to 
the  literary  and  antiquarian  world  as  the  "  unac- 
knowledged offspring,"  but  nevertheless  authentic 
writings  for  children,  &c.  by  Oliver  Goldsmith. 

I  cannot  possibly  bring  forward,  in  an  article 
like  the  present,  all  the  results  of  my  reading  and 
research  and  coincident  comparisons,  but  I  will 
here  mention  only  a  few  of  the  items  I  have  col- 
lected on  this,  to  me,  interesting,  and  I  may  say, 
for  some  years  past,  pet  subject  m  connection  with 
"  Bewick "  and  engraved  wood  block  collecting. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i">S.  IX.  Ja> 


Of  these  I  bnre  gnthered  ue&rly  Bevea  tliouRnnd 
from  various  pnriaof  Great  BritBu,  Amongst  vbich  ' 
I  have  several  sets  and  specimens  of  cuts  used  to  ' 
illustrate  editions  of  ffooJy  Ttno  Shoes,  Tommy 
Trip,  &c.  A  selection  of  tibeee  I  shall  be  happy 
to  send  to  the  Editor  of  "N.  &  Q."  if  he  thinks 
them  worthy  of  introduction  to  its  psges.  In 
alluding  to  Tommy  Trip,  I  proved  that  to  be  from 
the  poet's  pen.  In  my  preface  to  my  reprint  of  it 
in  1667  I  alluded  Co  the  fnllowiu);  from  Washing 
ton  irving'e  Bio^apht/  of  Oliver  Galdstniih .- — 

'■BrangnowhiiniTii  id  the  puMiihing  world,  Goldnnkh 
began  to  And  casunl  employment  in  vnrions  qiiartfln; 
among  others  be  nrote  occuionnlly  for  the  Literary 
MaqaziBt,  B  production  wt  on  foot  bv  tlr.Juhn  Nenbery, 
bookMller,  St.  Paul's  Cburcbyard.  renowned  in  nuriery 
Uterslure  throoghout  the  latter  half  of  the  loat  century 
ftw  bis  picture-books  for  children.  Sewbety  was  a 
worthy,  fnuUigeiit,  kind-hearied  man,  and  a  seasonable, 
tboufih  caalious  friend  to  authnra,  roiicvinj;  them  with 


humoronii  Tet  ftiOTdly 

manner  in  his  novel  of  the  Vicar  of  Wuiejidd:  'Th^ 
penon  was  no  other  than  the  philantliropie  baokseller  in 
St.  Paul's  Chutchvor,!,  who  has  written  «o  manv  lilllo 
books  for  children:  be  called  himself  their  friend;  but  ho  I 
vastbefriendofaltmnnkiDd.  He  was  no  sooner  alij^htul 
bat  be  was  in  hante  tn  be  gone ;  for  he  was  ever  on  busl- 
iMsa  of  importance,  and  waa  at  that  lime  actually  com-  | 

filing  materials  for  the  lii?hiry  of  one  Sir.  Tlioaua  Trip. 
Immediately  recollected  tbU  good-natured  man's  red-  | 
pimpled  face.' "  ! 

Here  Gold  ami  th  himself  speaks  of  Tnmmij  Trip,  ' 
and  amon^  the  numerous  favourable  reviews  which 
appeared  not  one  disEeoted  from  my  views  nnd 
arguments:  nndrowwiH/  rW/iis  now  duly  entered  in 
the  General  Catalogue  of  CheBiitiBh  Musetim  under 
the  poet's  workH.  Since  that  time  I  have  nst^er- 
buned  that  it  {Tommt/  Trip)  was  the  subject  of  a 
conversation  between  Dr.  Johnson  and  Boswell,  in 
which tho  formercalled  ita  "prent  hook"  though 
a  little  one.  I  elso  find  the  first  part  of  Tommy 
Trip  tmd  Gimii  Woylog  (I  will  also  show  who  he 
was  in  my  preface  to  a  reprint  of  the  first  edition 
(Newbery'a)  of  Goodi/  Two  Shoes  now  at  press) 
appears  in  the  Lilliputian  Magasine  (another  work 
I  will  prove  Goldsmith  wrote),  published  circa 
1768  by  Newbery.  Gimit  Woglwi  is  also  men- 
tioned in  Tablet  ia  Verse  hy  Abrnhiim  jJHtop, 
Newbery  (also  by  O.  G.),  and  in  the  British  Fair- 
mg,  or  Golden  Toy,  in  which — 

»  Yon  mav  see  all  the  Fun  of  the  Fair, 
And  at  Ilomo  be  as  bappy  as  if  you  were  there." 

This  also  is  from  Goldsmith's  pen,  and  in  one 
part  of  it  may  be  found  an  interestinfr  description 
of  other  curious  sights  to  be  seen  in  the  Ilay- 
maiket,  ^'au.Thall  Gardens,  &c.  Copious  extracts 
from  these  and  many  oUiers  will  be  given  in 
Ooldtmithiana.    I  am  much  pressed  for  time  at 

rasent,  but  if  it  would  be  considered  interestiniz 
wiU  select  all  about  "  Woglog  the  great  giant ' ' 


from  the  various  Lilliputian  volumes  in  mine  and 
Another  very  complete  collection  I  have  free  access 
to,  and  BO  form  a  slight  contribution  on  "  Woglofr " 
for  "  N.  &  Q."  If  I  am  not  taking  up  too  much 
npace  for  this  svmli  hut  to  me  great  subject,  I 
would  quote  what  Washington  Irving  Rajs  about 
Good'/  Tteo  Shoes  and  its  writer,  also  introduced, 
in  my  preface  to  Tammy  Trip,  1807  :— 

"This  constant  drainage  of  the  purse  Iheiefore  oldiged 
him  to  uadertake  all  jobs  prnpo^d  by  the  booksellers, 
and  to  keep  up  n  kind  of  running  account  with  Mr.  Xew- 
bery :  who  was  his  banker  on  all  occaoions,  mmetiincs  for 
pounds,  aometimcs  for  shillinfrs;  but  wtio  was  a  rieid 
Bceountant,  and  took  cire  t^i  lie  aniplr  repaid  in  nianu- 
script.  Many  effu.'iioDS,  hastily  penned  in  these  iimments 
of  exigencr,  were  published  anonymously,  and  never 
elaimed.  ^me  of  them  have  but  recently  been  traced  to 
liii  pen;  while  of  many  the  true  author^bip  will  pro- 
bably nerer  be  di^^-overed.  Amonj;:  others,  it  is  sm;gi^sted, 
and  with  grent  pniliabiliti',  that  he  wrote  for  ilr.  Xcw- 
lery  the  famous  nurwry  stofj-  of  Gaiilg  Tieii  Shoa, 
which  appeared  in  ITGJ,  at  a  moment  wlien  Goldsmith 
■was  Mrilibling  for  Sewbery,  ami  much  proimi'd  forfnnda. 
Several  quaint  little  tales  iiitroiluced  in  bis  l-'«ui;a  show 
lliut  he  liad  a  tura  for  tliiN  species  of  inock  history ;  and 
Ihe  ndvertisemrnt  and  litle-pa(;a  bear  the  Btamp  of  hit 
biy  and  pla\-ful  humour. 

"  We  are'  desiml  to  give  notice  tlut  'there  \*  in  tbe 
press,  and  speedily  will  be  publbtlicl,  either  bv  siibncrip- 
tion.or  otherwise,  as  the  puUie  ahall  please  to'det ermine, 
llie  Hlttorv  of  Little  Cix^lg  T,ro  Skna,  uthrrTlit  .Vrs. 
Margrry  'i'ao  Shmi;  with  the  means  by  which  she  ac- 
quired learning  and  windnm,  and,  in  consequeuro  thereof, 
her  estate ;  eet  forth  at  large  for  the  benefit  of  those — 
•  Who.  from  a  slate  of  rocs  and  cure. 
And  baving  shoes  hut  hall'  a  pair. 
Their  fortune  and  thuii  fame  sliould  fix. 
And  gallop  in  a  coach  and  six.' 
"The  world  is  probably  not  aware  of  the  irgraiuily, 
humour,  good  sense,  and  sly  satire  contained  in  uianr  of 
the  oM  Kn^lish  nursery  talcs.    They  have  evidentiv  been 
the  sportive  pFOdudions  of  able  writers,  wlio  wonld  not 
trust  their  names  to  productions  that  might  bu  con- 
sidered beneath  tbeir  dignity.    The  ponderous  works  on 
which  diet-  relied  for  immortality  have  perhjps  eunk 
into  oblivion,  and  carried  their  names  down  with  tlKm ; 
while  tlieir    unacknowledged  olTitpiini;.  Jaci  the  U'ant 
Kdler,  Giles  Giogirbrtad,  and   Tom   Thumb,  flourbh  in 
wide- spreading  and  never-ceasing  popularity." 

Wm.  Godwin,  the  auljior  of  Caleb  WUliamt, 
hinii'elf  a  publisher  of  children's  books,  frequently 
asserted  tbnt  Goldsmith  was  the  writer.  Kume- 
rnus  other  authorities  of  name  and  weip;ht  I  will 
give  anon ;  but  I  will  conclude  with  the  tradi- 
tion conveyed  to  mo  in  conversations  with  the 
Misses  Bewick,  whose  fnther  engraved  the  frontis- 
piece for  tlio  Xewciatle   edition   (St.  Nicholas's 


steeple  in  the  background)  of  Goody  Two  Shoen 

Siiblishcd  by  Saint,  the  contcmporaiT  of,  mid. 
'i-irberii  of  the  KorlJi — a  copy  of  which  ('Jimo, 
128  ptiRes,  1700)  sold  nt  Puttvck  and  Simpson's 
Jan.  17,  1871,  for  8t  7a.;  and  the  nest  day 
chanfred  hands  for  a  much  higher  sum  —  thus 
eieraplifying  G.T.  S.'s  "clean  copies,  &c.,  would 
fetch  tbeir  wei|;ht  in  ^Id" — that  Goldsmith  waa 


■::•.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


17 


the  Mitbor  of  both  Oaedg  Two  Short  and  Tommtj 
Trip,  for  both  of  which  works  Thomas  Bewick 
engraved  seta  of  cuts,  and  Bewick  told  John  Bell 
that  the  Tommi/  Trip  led  to  the  publication  oj 
bis  SriliA  Qwidrupedi  in  1700.  Sewick  had  on 
interdew  with  GoldEmith  in  Newcastle,  wheti 
the  latter  was  on  his  waj  to  the  metropolia  froni 
Edinbufgh.  On  the  wrapper  of  mj  Angler's  Oar- 
land  for  IS'O,  I  announced  as  preparing  for  the 
pressi,  among  others : — 

"  The  tnt  Hirtory  of  Lillle  Goiinr  Two  Shoe-I.  and 
who  wrote  ii.  embelltihed  with  MVCrBl  seriM  of  tbe 
anginal  woodcQfcs  fmc-siinilu  mmofiraphB,  ite«l  engrtv- 
iiifS"  *c. 

But  it  aftenvards  became  incorporated  in  tbe  MS.  ' 
of  Goiiismifhimia.  But  seeing  the  interest  raised 
on  the  subject,  the  world  shall  not  remniu  long  : 
without  an  unabridged  copy  printed  faithfullv 
irom  the  first  tbreo  Newberj-  editions,  with  all 
the  poems,  characterialic  phras'>B,  and  appendix 
to  the  printer,  in  which  Michael  Angelo  is  told 
tfi  "  bniflh  up  the  cuts  (from  the  Vatican  P)  that 
they  may  pre  good  impressions."  A  genuina 
ediiion  of  the  bo^,  I  can  safely  say,  has  not  been 
ceprioted  for  fifty  years  at  least.  '1  myself  hnve 
access  to,  and  in  my  own  collection,  abo've  twenty 
different  editions  published  by  Kuwbery,  Oabome,  ' 
Oarton,  Mozley,  :*airit,  and'otheri  all  over  the  , 
kingdom.     None  are  right  but  the  enrly  ones,  ] 

?ubli'hi'd  by  the  Newberrs  or  Caroan.     I  asked  , 
fr.  Winter  Jones  mv^clf  in  the  liendiog  l!oom  of  ] 
the  British  MnMum  if  I  could  sdo  a  copy  of  Goodi/ 
Tteo  Shoes.     They  had  not  got  one  1    And  I  hnvu 
tint  tbe  sligh teat  reason  to  believe,  from  my  brief  j 
interview,  that  3Ir.  Winter  Jones  or  his  "ances- 
tor  ever  thought   of   having  any  claim   to    tbe 
mathfiKbi'p  of  Goodi/TicoS/iac'.  In'lSGZ  J  remember  ; 
apeakiof;  to  W,  B.,  one  of  tbe  oldest  correspond- 
ents of  "  N,  &  Q.,"'  of  one  of  my  arguments  in 
favour  of  Goldsmith's  being  the  author  of  Goodi/ 
7Vo  S/iofi—tiio  allusion   to  IJr.  James's  powder 
on  the  death  of  Goody's  parent.    This  stems  to 
have  been  mentioned  to  Mr.  Fursfer  in  conversa- 
tion, for  I  sea  be  refers  to  it  in  las  glorious  work 
on  Oliver  Goldsmith  (last  edition,  2  vols.,  1871) ;  , 
bat   I  have  volumes  of  "  chapter  and  verse,"  if  | 
required,   coincident  and   full    of  "confirmation  , 
■trong."     AjioJoaising  for  thus  far  trespassing  on 
jour  valuable  columus.  Edwin  Pkaiesoit, 

I'.S.  T  may  mention  that  in  my  "  Ijlliputiati 
library"  are  veiy  many  of  the  original  little 
books  mentioned  in  the  "list  ^including  a  copy  of 
TJie  liluteum,  from  which  I  will  shortly  send  the 
extract  relating  to  "  Woglog  "  to  "  S'.  &,  Q,"), 
with  numerous  others  not  included  there,  of  which 
I  wiU  iond  a  further  list  to  "  N.  &  Q." ;  and  shall 
be  glad  to  hear  of  any  (through  its  columns)  not 
containod  in  either  lit:t. 


WILLIAU  RALIUL. 
I  (4'*  S.  yirfjmwiin ;  viii.  53,  487.) 

I,  an  "  Anglo -Scot  us,"  am  much  obliged  to  yotir 
correspondent  rejoicing  in  a  similar  nom  tfe^ume 
for  hie  information  under  the  above  heading;  but 
as  ha  is,  I  think,  wron[f  in  one  or  two  particulars, 
I  shall  be  obliged  by  his  giving  proofs  for  hia 
.  slateoients: — 

1.  I  think  that  the  charter  granted  by  Sir  John 
Graham  to   the  monks  of  Melrose  could  hardly 

I  have  been  signed  as  witnesses  by  Alexander  and 
I  William  Baliol  in  1326,  an  William  at  aU  events 
WES  di-nd  in  1315, 

2.  I  am  very  doubtful  of  any  proof  eiisting 
that  the  Bnliols  (by  that  name)  heldthe  haronyof 
Cavers  for  nenrly  fifty  years  nfter  1325.  I  have 
never  in  my  ruaearches  found  the  name  of  Baliol 
in  history  or  documents,  genealogical  or  otherwise, 
after  thi;  overthrow  of  Edward  Baliol,  the  son  of 
Johu  Riliol,  in  the  attempts  of  the  former  to 
regain  tho  crown  of  Scotland — say  about  1330— 
and  I  do  not  think  it  is  to  be  found. 

.  Asr.T.o-Scoirs  asks  for  my  authority  in  stating 
thn^t  William  Baliol  was  brother  to  Alexander, 
the  ch.imberbiin  of  Scotland.  In  the  Public  Ite- 
cord  Olliee,  under  date  of  "  March  21, 1293,"  is  an 
acquiltnnce  from  Robert  Heron,  the  associate  of 
the  chaniberlnin  of  Scotland,  for  a  part  of  bia 
wajc",  wherein  the  following  appears,  and  to  my 
mind  isconclusive  ;  — 

"  Hccepissc  lie  liomino  AlexanilroclcBalliolo  Cnmcrario 
Scolin  p<^r  innnui  Willelrni  ile  Uallinlo.  fnttrU  ni, 
ctirici  in  parte  lululionis  vadiornni  mcorum,"  &c. 

W'illiam  Baliol  throughont  the  deeds  relating 
to  the  chaniburlitinship  of  Scotland  is  mentioned 
frequently  as  acting  for  Alexander  BalioL 

The  anns  of  Scott  of  Scotis  Hall  are  un- 
doubtedly dcrivasive  of  those  of  Baliol,  as  those  of 
Scott  of  Great  Barr  aro  dcrivasive  of  the  De  Lam- 
bertons  or  Lindsays,  with  whom  tho  Boliols  were 
Fissociated  and  connected  by  ties  of  relnlionship  ; 
but  this  is  a  matter  of  heraldry  better  suited  to 
the  pens  of  Mr.  S.  W.  Ellis  or  Mk.  M.  A.  Lower 
than  mine. 

Lastly.  There  appears  to  have  been  hut  one 
William  Baliol,  who  died  about  1311-15,  and  wa« 
buried  at  the  same  monastery  (the  Grey  Friars  of 
Canterbury),  likewise  the  place  of  sepulture  of  bin 
brother's  'wife,  Elizabeth  of  Chilham,  wife  of 
Alexander,  Uhaml)erlain  of  Scotland  and  I^ord  of 
Chilham :  and  it  is  from  this  William  Baliol  that 
the  ScotLi  of  Braboumf,  near  Chilbam  and  Can- 
letbury,  claim  their  descent.  J.  It.  S, 


Wbbpem  (4"'  S.  vii.  257  j  viii.  378,  443.)  — 
Funeral  hatbands  are  called  ''Jamie  Uulfs"  in 
Edinburgh,  after  a  noted  character  who  lived  there 
about  the  middle  of  last  century.  This  "  natural," 
as  idiots  were  called  in  Scotland,  had  a  paaaion 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«h  S.  IX.  Jan.  6/72. 


for  attending  funerals,  which  he  always  did  in  full 
mourning  costume.  Many  amlising  anecdotes  are 
related  of  this  eccentric  in  that  scarce  and  enter- 
taining work,  Kaj's  Original  Portraits^  i.  7,  and 
ii.  9,  17,  95.  Akch.  Watson. 

Glasgow. 

WniTEACRE  Crest  ^4*^  S.  viii.  454.)  —  The 
following  arms  will  be  found  in  vol.  iii,  Robsoh*s 
British  Herald : — 

"  Whitacre  [VVanvick].    Sable,  3  mascles  or. 

Whitacre  [VVarwick  and  Altborne,  Yorks].  Sable,  3 
mascles  argent.  Crest — A  cubit  arm,  erect,  brandishing  a 
sword,  all  proper. 

Whitacre  [Westbury,  Wilts,  granted  16  March,  1560]. 
The  same,  with  a  label  of  3  points  or.  Crest — A  horse 
passant  or. 

Whitacre  •[" Hen thome,  Yorks].  Sable,  a  chevron  be- 
tween 3  mascles  argent. 

Whitacre.  Argent,  a  chevron  between  3  mascles 
azure. 

Whitacre.    Gules,  3  lozenges  argent. 

Whitaker  [Lj'sson  House,  Hereford].  Sable,  a  fess 
between  3  mascles  argent.  Crest — A  horse  passant  argent. 

Whitaker.  Same  arms.  Crest — A  tent  gules,  gar- 
nished or,  pennon  azure. 

Whiteacre  [Lanes,  and  Warwick].  Or,  3  mascles 
sable. 

Whiteacre.    Sable,  3  lozenges  argent. 

Whiteacre.   Argent,  on  a  chevron  sable,  3  garbs  or. 

WHiittaker  [Barsning  Place,  near  Maidstone,  Kent]. 
Sable,  a  fess  between  3  mascles  argent  Crest— A  horse 
passant  or. 

Whittaker.  Azure,  a  cross  wavy  argent  between  4 
sengulls  swimming  proper.  Crest — A  seagull,  wings 
expanded  proper.'' 

Notices  of  the  family  will  be  found  as  under : — 

Whitacre  of  Whitacre  Superior.  Dugdale's  Warwickj 
vol.  ii.  p.  1039. 

Whitacre  of  Woodhouse,  Yorks,  and  Whitakers  of 
Broadclough,  of  Symonstone,of  the  Holme  in  Lancashire, 
and  of  Newcastle  Court,  Radnor.  Burke's  Landed  Gentry^ 
(second,  third,  or  fourth  edition). 

Whitaker  of  Holme,  Lancashire.  See  also  Hoarc's 
Wilts,  Westhury  Hundred,  p.  43. 

Whitaker  of  Leeds.    Whitaker's  Wludh.y,  p.  33G. 

Whitaker  of  Motcomb.  Hutchins's  Dorset^  vol.  iii. 
p.  207. 

Fleur-de-Lys. 

Dogs  burikd  at  the  Feet  of  Bishops  (4***  S. 
viii.  222,  290,  378, 422,  537.)— I  am  not  disposed 
to  contend  with  dishonourable  quibbling,  and  will 
only  say  that  when  I  said  **  married  ladies," 
whereas  I  had  before  spoken  of  "  ladies  "  only,  I 
never  dreamed  of  introducing  an  "  amended  read- 
ing." Everybody  knows,  tu  quoquty  that  the 
laaies  represented  in  efTi^  on  monuments  are 
generally,  if  not  always,  married  ladies ;  and  every 
unbiassed  reader  would  see  my  meaning  when  I 
explained  the  do^s  at  their  feet  as  emblems  of 
their  fidelity  as  wives.  F.  C.  H. 

Wallace,  in  his  Account  of  t/ie  Islands  of  Ork- 
ney, 1700,  p.  57,  states  that  in  The  Lmks  of 
Tranabie,  in  Westra,  the  remains  of  dogs  have 
been  found  in  human  graves.  G.  M.  T. 


"Btfrons,  custos,"  etc.  (4***  S.  viii,  478.) — 
The  following  occurs  in  the  very  interesting  col- 
lection entitled  Walpoliana*  :  — 

"  Mr.  Gostling,  a  clergyman  of  Canterbury,  was,  I  am 
told,  the  writer  of  an  admirable  parody  on  the  noted 
grammatical  line :  — 
*  Bifrons,  atque  Castas,  BoSy  Fur,  Sus,  atque  Sacerdos'  '* 

It  runs  thus:  — 

"  Bifrons  ever  when  he  preaches ; 
Custos  of  what  in  his  reach  is. 
Bos  amon^  his  neighbours'  wives ; 
Fur  in  gathering  of  his  tithes. 
Sus  at  every  parish  feast ; 
On  Sunday,'  Sacerdos,  a  priest." 

Vol.  i.  p.  115,  No.  cxxxiii. 

I  cannot  tell  who  was  the  Sacerdos  thus  sa- 
tirised, or  whether  indeed  any  particular  person 
was  alluded  to.  I  need  not  say  that  the  scan- 
sion of  the  line  is  faulty.  It  occurs,  of  course, 
in  the  *.*  Propria  quae  maribus  "  of  the  Eton  Latin 
Grammar,  and  there  reads  "  Ut  bifrons:  cus- 
tos," &c.  It  is  marvellous  that  Walpole  should 
commit  such  an  error,  even  in  writing  from  me- 
mory. In  my  copy  of  Walpoliana  it  is  stated  that 
the  collection  was  made*Dy  Isaac  Disraeli.  Is 
there  any  reason  to  suppose  that  this  atU'ibution 
is  correct?  It  was  printed  by  Bensley  for  Sir 
Hichard  Phillips,  and  forms  one  of  a  series  with 
Addisoniana,  Brookiana^  Swiftiana,  and  perhaps 
others;  each  in  2  vols,  small  8vo. 

William  Bates,  B.A. 

Birmingham. 

Vide  Walpoliana,  No.  138,  vol.  i.  p.  118,  edit. 
2nd,  Bentley ;  and  The  Archaoloffical  Mine,  p.  61, 
by  A.  J,  Dunkin,  published  1,856.  The  iSacerdos 
was  the  Rev.  Mr.  Taylor  of  Bifrons. 

IIardric  Morphyn. 

"  Kemp  "  (4t»'  S.  viii.  264,  3o7,  444.)— Here  is 
an  illustration  of  krnip  and  Icemping  from  the 
other  side  of  the  Atlantic,  apparently  carried 
thither  from  the  north  of  the  Tweed.  The  Times 
of  Ottawa  (Dominion  of  Canada),  Nov.  10,  1871, 
under  the  head  "Gleanings," has  the  following: — 

"  Mr.  M'Corrpick  last  $750,000  in  Chicago,   and  is 
;  ready  to  admit  tliat,   no  doubts   the  great  fire  is  the 
champion  reaper," 

J.  Ck.  R. 

In  the  ancient  ballad  of  ''  King  Estmere,"  as 

given  in  Percy^ s Reliqttes  (vol.i.  ed.  1868,  Nimmo), 

this  word  appears  both  singular  and  plural,  as 

well  as  the  adjective  derived  from  it ;  e.  g,\  — 

•*  Bat  in  did  come  the  King  of  Spayne, 
With  kempcs  many  a  one. 

Down  then  came  the  kemperye  man. 

*  And  how  now,  kempe,*  said  the  King  of  Spayne." 
A  note  in  Latin  to  the  glossary  gives  a  number  of 
modifications  of  kenipe, 

•   Vide  Sharpc'd  edition,  p.  134 ;  1819  edition. 


4«h  S.  IX.  Jan.  G.  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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About  four  miles  soutli  of  Belfast,  in  Dun- 
doDftld  parish,  and  townland  of  Greenffvaves,  there 
is  a  very  fine  cromlech  called  by  the  country 
people  "the  kempe  stone/'  W.  II.  P. 

Belfast. 

Jamieson,  in  his  Scottish  Dictionary^  has  "  To 
Kemp,  V,  n.  to  strive."  This  phrase  is  always 
applied  to  shearei*s  in  the  harvest  field,  in  tlie 
southern  counties  of  Scotland.  It  has  been  noticed 
by  no  less  than  seven  contributors  to  "  N.  &  Q.," 
and  derivations  given,  but  not  one  of  them  seems 
to  have  been  aware  of  the  humorous  manner  Allan 
Hamsay  makes  use  of  it  in  his  inimitable  poem, 
**  Christ's  Kirk  on  the  Green."  It  being  probable 
that  many  of  the  present  generation,  south  of  the 
Tweed,  are  unacquainted  with  this  poem  —  the 
first  canto  of  which  was  composed  by  James  I., 
King  of  Scotland — ^they  are  herewith  presented 
with  a  stanza  towards  the  close  of  the  second 
canto,  in  which  it  is  said,  "  They  kempit  with 
their  teeth  " :  — 

"  Twa  times  anjjht  bannocks  in  a  heap, 
An*  twa  guid  junts  o'  beef, 
Wi'  hind  an'  fore  FpanI  o'  a  sheep. 
Drew  whittles  frae  ilka  sheath  : 
Wi'  gravey  a'  their  beards  did  dreep, 

They  kempit  wi'  their  teeth ; 
A  kebbuck  sync  ihnt  niaist  cou'd  creep 
Its  lane,  put  on  the  sheaf 

In  stous  that  dav." 

Pax. 

This  surname  or  word  is  derived,  according  to 
Blomefield  the  Norfolk  historian, "  from  the  Saxon 
-word  to  hemp,  or  combat,  which  in  Norfolk  is 
retained  to  this  day,  a  foot-ball  match  being  called 
'camping '  or  *  kemping ' ;  and  thus  in  Saxon  a 
kemper  signifies  a  combatant,  a  champion,  or  a 
man  of  arms.  This  family  hath  been  of  long 
continuance  in  this  county ''  of  Norfolk.  (See 
Blometield's  Norfolk^  vol.  i.  under  "  Gissing.") 

Gotfred  Kemp,  of  Norfolk,  Esq.,  had  a  daugh- 
ter Ann,  who  was  married  to  Jevan  Blad. veil  of 
Great  Thurlow,  Suffolk,  anno  1154. 

I  was  not  aware  till  I  saw  Mr.  Thomas  Dob- 
S0N*s  query  that  the  word  kcmp  was  used  in  the 
sense  of  severe  harvest-field  work. 

T.  S.  NORGATE. 
Sparham,  Norwich. 

Pbhttkd  Matter  copied  .  (4***  S.  viii.  480.) — 
The  paper  alluded  to  may  be  obtained  of  Weigle 
(not  Wergler,  apothecary,  Nuremberg,  at  six 
kreutzers  a  sheet,  or  one  ilorin  thirty-six  kreut- 
zers  per  book.  Any  foreign  bookseller  would, 
doubUess,  undertake  the  commission.  He  also 
supplies  a  peculiar  form  of  rubber,  for  giving  the 
necessary  pressure,  at  the  price  of  nine  kreutzers. 
Full  details  of  the  process  are  to  be  found  in  the 
Bayerisches  Industrie  und  OewerbebiaU,  1870, 
p.  21D;  1871,  p.  217.  Would  a  translation  be  of 
BDj  interest?  E.  B.  P. 


KiDLY-wiXK  (4'**  S.  viii.  480.) — Tbi:?  is  surely 
the  same  as  kiddle-a-icink — a  word  wliich  adver- 
tisements and  placards  made  sulliciently  familiar 
to  the  public  eye  just  before  the  appearance  of 
Beeton's  Christmas  Ajmiial  for  18G0.  It  was  used 
as  the  general  title  of  a  collection  of  stories  sup- 
posed to  be  told  by  some  persons  snowed  up  in  a 
Cornish  ale-house  or  kiddle-a-wink.  The  author 
of  the  tales,  Francis  Derrick,  oilers  the  following 
etymology  : — 

"  In  Cornwall,  every  ale-hon so  licenced  to  sell  beer  only 
is  called  a  kiddle-a-wink.  Th>"  nam^  is  said  to  have 
arisen  thus : — About  thirty  years  ago,  when  I  believe  an 
Act  of  Parliament  had  just  been  pa^tsed  establishing  the 
new  licence,  some  miners  entered  one  of  the  first  of  the 
new-fashioned   beer-hoiises  and  demanded  some  toddy. 

*  I  am  not  licensed  to  sell  spirits,*  answered  the  poor 
woman  who  kept  the  place,  looking  hard  at  the  men ; 

*  but  I  can  boil  the  keddle  (kettle)  for  d,  and  ef  j'e  mind 
to  wink  when  I  pouar  out  tha  hot  waatur,  maybe  you'll 
find  it's  draawed  out  of  an  uncommon  good  well.'  The 
miners  did  as  they  were  told,  and  as  they  stirred  and 
drank  the  hot  toater,  one  of  them  said,  *  So  the  gran*  folks 
up  to  Lunnun  church-town  that  make  tha  laas  cael  this  a 
beer-houre,  they  do.  Aw !  my  dear,  I  should  cael  ct  a 
keddle-an'-wink.  An  ef  thee  stick  to  thic  name,  Un 
(Aunt)  Tamson,  thee'st  <lo  a  pewer  stem  of  trade ;  but  ef 
thee  kips  to  tha  name  they  give  et  onp  to  Lunnun  church- 
town,  thee  wnient  fung  (earn)  much  cnbshans  (savings) 
for  thee  oukl  age.  What  <lo  e  >«ay,  suas  (friends)  ?  1  reckon 
I'm  right.  Give  me  a  drap  more  hot  water  out  of  the 
kiddle-a-wink,  do  d  now,  co'.  (This  last  is  a  coaxing 
term  generally  added  to  every  entreaty  by  the  Cornish.) 
Thus,  without  the  aid  of  parliament  or  of  lexicon,  a  word 
was  coined,  that  instantaneous]}'  and  like  a  flash  was 
conveyed  throughout  the  county  and  adopted  by  every 
possessor  of  the  new  licence;  and  although  beer-bouses 
doubtless  sell  nothing  but  beer,  they  nevertheless  remain 
kiddle- a-icinksio  this  dav." — WQ^ioii' &  Christmas  Annual 
for  1863,  p.  39,  note. 

St.  Swithin. 

Change  of  Baptismal  Name  (4**'  S.  viii.  6G, 
153,  443.) — That  a  baptismal  name  can  be  changed 
at  confirmation  appears  to  have  been  recognised 
at  the  close  of  the  last  century.  The  following 
passage  opens  a  popular  address  by  Mr.  Walter  in 
the  first  number  of  The  Times,  Jan.  1,  1788,  in 
which  he  explains  his  reasons  for  changing  the 
name  of  his  newspaper  from  that  of  the  Universal 
Register  to  the  shorter  one — The  Times: — 

"  The  Universal  Register  has  been  a  name  as  injurious 
to  the  logographic  newspaper  as  Tristram  was  to  Mr. 
Shandy's  son;  but  old  Shandy  forgot  he  might  have 
rectified  by  confirmation  the  mistake  of  the  parson  at 
baptism,  and  with  the  touch  of  a  bishop  changed  Tristram 
into  Trismegistus," — Grant's  Newspaper  Press,  1871, 
vol.  i.  p.  425. 

H.  P.  D. 

Briot  (4»»'  S.  viii.  351,  424.)— This  word,  as 
applied  to  a  dish,  doubtless  means  an  example  of 
the  famous  works  by  Francois  Briot,  a  French 
sculptor  or  engraver  in  relief,  who  flourished  in 
the  sixteenth  century  during  the  reign  of  Henri  II, 
It  is  not  unlikely  that  the  highly  finished  works 
of  Fran9oi8  Briot  were  produced  in  both  gold  and 


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[4th  s.  IX.  Jan.  G,  72. 


Bilrer,  and,  owing  to  the  great  cost  of  those 
metalSy  replicated  or  cast  bj  the  artist  in  pewter 
(Hain),  Good  examples  may  be  seen  in  the  South 
Kensington  Museum,  but  I  am  not  aware  of  any 
icnown  ones  in  either  of  the  precious  metals.  (See 
Labarte,  Jltst.  des  Arts  industriefa  au  Moyen  Age, 
Tol.  ii.  p.  173.)  W.  Matchwick. 

Beer-Jug  Inscriptioxs  {A^  S.  viii.  303,  387, 
427,  400.) — I  haye  a  jug,  in  centre  inscribed 
•'  William  Gab,  1776,"  while  on  one  side  is  a 
plough,  with  '*  God  sjjeed  the  plough  '* ;  on  the 
other,  a  wheatsheaf  with  '*  Success  to  the  groin 
returned.''  W.  M.  M. 

BuDSTONE  Monolith  (4»'»  S.  viii.  368,  462.)— 
It  is  possible  that  this  remarkable  monument  is 
not  a  bauta  stone,  but  a  British  menhir,  dedicated 
to  the  sun  under  his  title  The  Bed. 

In  Buthwell  churchyard  (Bed's  Well),  Dum- 
friesshire, are  the  broken  fragments  of  a  similar 
monolith,  twenty  feet  high,  exclusive  of  cap  and 
pedestal.  The  pillar  was  thus  broken  by  order  of 
the  General  Assembly,  1644  (superstitimi^  causd). 

Budstone  probably  was  an  ancient  object  of 
worship.  The  word  is  to  be  found  in  many  coun- 
tries. Bohan  and  Bouen  recall  our  rowan  and 
its  red  berries,  efficacious  against  witchcraft.  The 
Val  de  Barrousse  in  the  Pyrenees,  Bossel  in  Serk, 
Bousillon  in  the  south  of  France,  Boss  in  Scotland, 
are  instances  of  Boss  or  Boux.*  BossGrani  is  the 
Norwegian  name  for  the  old  sun  deity,  degraded 
to  an  ogre,  otherwise  Bedgrain,  the  same  as  Dido's 
Grynieus  Apollo,  the  Grian  of  the  Irish. 

Botomagus,  Butupium,  the  Bhodanus,  are 
further  instances  of  the  word  being  known  to  the 
Latins,  probably  through  the  form  rz^tilans,  or  the 
Greek  rhodoti.  Bed  and  yellow  were  colours 
sacred  to  the  sun.  The  red  poppy  is  coqtielicot 
in  French,  and  Cock  (Welsh  coch,  red)  was  one 
of  the  sun's  many  titles.  E.  B.  P. 

Etymology  op  "  Harrowgate  "  (4»»»  S.  viii. 
179,  312,  406,  460.)— The  worship  of  Aur  or  Ar, 
•*  the  morninp:,"  by  the  British  (Aurigny  is  the 
"  fire  of  Aur  "  in  France)  seems  to  be  preserved 
to  us  in  such  names  as  Harrow.  Harrow  (Aur's 
Hoe),  Harlow,  Arbory  Low  in  Derbyshire,  are  all 
the  same  word  difterently  fonned. '  Harborough 
and  Warborough  are  the  same,  as  the  Oarstone, 
Harstone,  Warstone  are  various  spellings  of  the 
monolith  or  menhir  of  Aur  existing  in  different 
localities.  Harrogate  is  the  "path  of  Aur." 
The  Warrie  GLn  is  a  haunted  spot  near  Dum- 
blane.  E.  B.  P. 


•  The  "  Cadet  Rouasel "  of  the  French  nursery  is 
probably  a  myth  of  the  pagan  sun-gwl,  Roux  Sel. 

Rodmarton  is  probably  the  enclosure  of  Rodmar.  the 
great  Red  One.  ' 

Hroth^,  Rodbert,  Roderie,  Rodiger,  are  proofii  of  the 
use  of  this  title  in  Gothic  surnames.    Rooena  is  another. 


There  is  a  hill  near  Harrowgate  called  Harlow 
Hill,  or  sometimes  Harlow  Car.  Can  Harrow- 
gate  have  been  originally  Harlowgate,  as  from  it 
there  is  a  road  to  Harlow  ?  M.  B. 

Phenomenon  of  the  Sun  (4'*'  S.  viii.  18.^,  293, 
387,  460.) — To  your  learned  correspondent's  quo- 
tation from  old  Horace  allow  me  to  add  another 
from  the  same  source,  which  hos  liko^vise  its 
worth — *'  Est  modus  in  rchus  ";  and  to  plead,  as 
an  excuse  for  the  obscurity  of  the  note  he  so 
justly  criticises,  the  fear  I  am  always  in  of  abus- 
ing your  space,  which  made  me  strike  out,  in 
transcribing  my  note  for  "  N.  &  Q.,''  the  extract 
I  had  at  first  made  from  the  Magazi7i  pittorcsquv ; 
which  showed  clearly  that  it  was  not  Mr.  Bot- 
tineau who  was  "in  the  clouds,"  but  that  it  .was 
he  who,  in  1810,  at  the  Isle  of  France,  first  saw 
by  reflection  in  the  clouds  the  three  English  men- 
of-war  that  appeared  the  next  day  at  Port  Louis. 

And  now,  sir,  as  confession,  we  are  taught,  is 
the  lirst  step  towards  forgiveness — and  I  fully 
acknowledge  my  fault — so  I  trust  to  your  indul- 
gence and  IVIr.  Tew's  to  forgive  me.       P.  A.  L. 

Antique  Heads  in  Mediaeval  Seals  (4*'*  S. 
vii.  493 ;  viii.  12.) — Perhaps  the  most  interesting 
of  all  examples  of  the  use  of  classical  gems,  during 
the  media? val  period,  is  that  brought  to  light  by 
Mr.  Sniirke  at  Wardour  Castle.  I  allude  to  the 
representation  of  the  Laocoon  on  a  seal  attached  to 
a  document  in  the  possession  of  Lord  Arundel  of 
Wardour.  Mr.  Smirke  has  noticed  the  intaglio 
in  Dr.  Oliver's  Monagtieon  (additional  supplement, 
p.  o) ;  and  Mr.  C.  W.  King  has  written  a  very  in- 
teresting paper  on  the  subject  in  the  Arclusological 
Jowfial  (No.  93,  1807).  The  latter  points  out 
that  when  Goethe  had  an  opportunity  of  study- 
ing a  collection  of  antique  gems,  he  believed — 

**  that  here  it  was  also  undeniable  that  copies  of  great 
important  ancient  works,  for  ever  lost  to  us,  are  pre- 
senred,  like  so  many  jewels,  within  these  narrow  limits ; 
hardly  any  branch  of  art  wanted  a  representative  amongst 
them  ;  in  scarcely  any  class  of  subjects  was  a  deficiency 
to  be  observed." 

Mr.  King,  in  his  Handbook  of  Engraved  Gems 
(p.  45),  has  described  gems  which  are  the  only 
things  presen'ing  the  memorv  of  the  masterpieces 
of  Canachus,  Apelles,  and  others. 

This  intaglio  of  the  Laocoon  formed  the  private 
seal  of  Thomas  Colyns,  prior  of  Tywardreth  from 
l()07tol539.    Mr.  King  thinks  it— 

*<  possesses  every  characteristic  warranting  its  ascription 
to  the  best  period  of  Greek  art  in  this  particular  branch, 
viz.  the  two  centorics  oommencing  with  the  era  of  Lysip- 
pus  and  Pyrgoteles." 

As  the  Laocoon  was  found  in  1512,  there  is  a 
possibility  that  Colyns  got  a  gem-oopy  of  the 
sculpture.  Bnt  a  fSact  iq^peam  which  renders  such 
a  suppodtion  very  improbable,  to  say  the  least. 
In  the  seal  the  father,  with  his  right  ann  bent^ 


4<fcS.IX.  JA2r.6,'72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


21 


is  tiying  to  tear  away  the  head  of  the  serpent 
from  hie  throat ;  while  in  the  marhle,  as  it  now 
appears,  the  arm  is  extended  at  full  length,  merely 
forcing  away  a  fold  of  the  serpent's  hody.  It 
seems,  however,  that  when  the  sculpture  was  dis- 
covered the  part  in  question  was  wanting,  and 
Michael  Angelo  restored  it ;  and  it  is  wonderful 
that  he  should  have  so  mistaken  the  meaning  of 
the  original.  I  refer  your  readers  interested  in 
the  subject  to  Mr.  King's  valuable  paper  for  his 
ascription  of  a  Grecian  origin  to  the  gem-copy  of 
the  Laocoon.  Jonx  Piggot,  Jun.,  F.S.A. 

CcTRiors  Baptismal  Names  (4^*'  S.  viii.  64, 

136,  334,  4G4.)— The  female  name  of  Anne  was 

borne  by  one  of  the  Pawlett  family  in  the  last 

century,  for  some  time  M.P.  for  this  borough. 

Also   \)y    Sir   Frederic    Anne    Hervey,    second 

baronet,  who  took  the  name  of  Bathurst.     The 

former  was  so  called  after  his  royal  godmother. 

S.  XL  A.  H. 
Bridgwater. 

Burke's  Peerage  gives  us  Georce  Augustus 
Henry  Anne  Parkyns,  the  late^and  last  Baron 
Eanclide ;  bom  1785,  died  1850.       John  Pike. 

"Florence  U  certainly  a  female  name,"  but  not 
until  it  had  been  for  many  centuries  a  male  one. 
We  have  a  whole  line  of  Counts  of  Holland,  chieily 
bearing  the  name  of  Floris,  Florens,  or  Florence. 
The  earliest  instance  of  the  use  of  Florence  as  a 
female  name  which  1  have  met  with,  is  in  the 
case  of  Florence,  daughter  of  Hugh  de  Courtenay 
of  Devon,  and  Margaret  Carmino.  Her  fnther 
was  killed  at  Tewkesbury,  May  4,  1471.  In  the 
next  generation  stands  Florence  Hastings,  Lady 
Grey  de  Wilton,  living  1511;  and  later  still, 
Florence  d'Albini,  Countess  of  Bath,  who  died 
before  1548.  Hebmentrtide. 

"  Spekl  "  (4»»'  S.  viii.  205, 203, 462.)— Notwith- 
standing the  many  replies  provoked  by  Jaydek's 
inquiry,  his  simple  question  has  not  yet  received 
the  simple  reply  it  so  clearly  demands.  I  may 
be  allowed,  therefore,  to  say  that  the  word  spcel 
is  used  in  the  sense  of  a  splinter  of  wood  in  many 
parts  of  Scotland,  where  the  local  patois  gives 
that  sound  to  what  is  more  commonly  pronounced 
fpale.  Thus  Jamieson,  sitb  voce,  has  spale,  spail, 
tpeal,  for  a  splinter  or  chip ;  and  among  the  ex- 
amples of  its  use  are  found  the  Scotch  proverbs : 
'•lie  that  hews  above  his  head,  may  have  the 
fpeal  fall  in  his  eye  ^;  and  again,  "  H!e  is  not  the 
best  Wright  that  hews  maist  speaW^ — as  it  is 
given  by  Ferguson,  both  equivalent  to  $pe^. 

On  the  Border  two  words  of  very  similar  sound 
Are  in  every -day  use :  (1)  spuk  or  speal,  as  above, 
the  small  splinters  used  to  kindle  fires ;  and  (2 j 

S3ely  T.  n.  to  climb,  as  a  tree,  a  hill.     In  using 
ese  the  Lowlander  says,  spale  and  g^^eel:  the 
Highlanderi  gpeal  and  ^W.^,  —  the  one  sound  the 


broad  vernacular,  the  other  sharp,  according  to 
the  practice  of  the  Anglified  Gaelic  speech. 

W.  K 

This  word  is  used  by  the  boys  here  in  the  sig- 
nification "  to  climb."  They  speel  a  polo,  a  tree, 
or  the  mast  of  a  ship.  Jaycee. 

Aberdeen. 

I  recorded  in  your  pages  two  years  ago  (4*^  S. 
iv.  546)  a  provincial  use  of  this  word.  I  have 
heard  a  boy  in  the  grammar  school  here  say  he 
had  got  a  speel  in  his  linger,  meaning  a  small 
splinter  from  the  form.  W.  1).  SwKETHf  G. 

Pcterboroagh. 

Cunious  Addresses  on  Letters  (4S^  S.  viii. 
5, 163,  pamm,  468.)— Am  I  not  right  in  thinking 
that,  some  fifty  years  ago,  this  Scotch  firm  at 
Liverpool  was,  not  Mac  Arthur,  but  "Maclver, 
Mac  Vicar,  and  Mac  Corquodale "  ?  And  some 
one,  not  knowing  exactly  how  to  write  it,  ad- 
dressed them  simply,  "  Tne  three  Macs  of  Liver- 
pool," and  the  letter  came  duly  to  hand. 

P.  A.  L. 

"Lbs  Supercheries  Litt^raires  D^votl^es**: 
Harry  Lorreqfer  (4»»»  S.  viii.  412,  489.)— I 
believe  the  surmise  to  be  perfectly  correct.  At 
all  events,  if  Mr.  Olphar  Hahst  will  turn  to  the 
Diiblin  University  Magazine  for  May  1847,  the 
first  article  will  be  found  to  be  a  very  severe 
diatribe  upon  the  character  and  manners  of  the 
Germans,  entitled  "A  Chapter  of  Continental 
Gossip :  a  German  Grand  Ducal  City,  by  Harry 
Jjorrequer.''  1  have  always  considered  this  to  be 
by  Charles  Lever  himself/  and  hardly  think  that 
another  would  thus  have  been  allowed  to  identify 
himself  with  him.  I  may  perhaps  be  excused  if, 
only  on  the  ex  pede  principle,  I  transcribe  >ihe 
following  amusing  lines :  — 

**  KENX8T  VtU  DAS   LAND,"  ETC. 

"  Away  with  all  JMtinjr,  ait  procul !  ye  scorncrs, 

I  bin^  the  Land  of  Tobacco  about! 
Of  Gniidige  Frauen  and  Iloch  WoIilgebnn>€n, 

Of  Hamels  Cotelctten,  aud  eke  sauer  Kraut. 
Where  even  the  language  can  interdict  jokiiij;, 

Nor  gleam  of  bright  fanc>*  can  ever  arouse 
Tlie  brains  that  are  torpid  bv  hourly  smoking. 

Or  inveutiog  flat  phrases  to  flatter  fat  Fraos.^ 
Where  men  have  no  higher  enjoyment  than  spitting. 

Or  lounging  in  garden.s  to  sip  sour  wine ; 
And  lady>Tike  pastimes  are  centered  in  knitting. 

Or  cooking  fat  messes  ad.ipted  for  swine. 
Where    age    is    like  childhood,  and  childhood    old- 
faahioo*d ; 

Where  prosing  and  twaddle  are  taken  for  sense ; 
Where  even  young  manhood  is  never  impassioned. 

And  the  Bcmblance  of  pleasantry  deemed  an  offence. 
The  fancy-struck  maiden — I  hope  I  shan't  kill  her, 

By  letting  such  treason  escape  from  my  hand ; 
But  such  is  the  country  of  Goethe  aud  Schiller, 

And  such  are  the  types  of  the  famed  Fatherland. 

William  Bates,  B.A. 
Birmingham. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES- 


[4*  S.  IX.  Jan.  6,  72. 


"  A  Carrion  Crow  "  (4"»  S.  viii.  290,  377.)— 
The  following  is  the  first  verse  of  this  song,  as 
sung  in  this  country :  — 

**  As  I  walked  out  one  morninff  in  the  spring, 

Fidd}'.  iddy,  iddy,  idiiy,  i-dough ! 
As  I  walked  out  one  morning  iu  the  spring, 
In  hopes  to  hear  the  little  birds  sing, 

To  my  heigh-ho !  the  carrion  crow 

Cries  caw  I  caw! 

Fiddy,  iddy,  iddy,  idd}',  i-dough ! " 

Two  of  the  lines  in  another  verse  are  sung 
thus :  — 


**  O  wife !  bring  down  some  physic  in  a  spoon, 
For  the  old  sow's  fallen  in  a  tarry-able  swoon." 

The  tune  is  very  lively  and  agreeable. 

Uneda. 
Philadelphia. 

American  State  Nicknames  (4»*>  S.  viii.  282, 
379.) — In  this  article  there  are  two  errors.  I*en- 
futites  (one  of  the  nicknames  of  the  Pennsylva- 
nians)  should  be  Penna^nites.  This  name  was 
given  by  the  Connecticut  settlers  of  northern 
Pennsylvania  during  the  controversy  between 
Pennsylvania  and  Connecticut.  Beadies  (the 
nickname  of  the  Virginians)  should  be  Beagles. 

Philadelphia. 

Provincial  Glossary  (4*^  S.  v.  vi.  passim ;  viiL 
381,  441.) — The  difficulty  of  accounting  for  the 
pansy,  or  ''  love  in  idleness,"  being  corrupted,  as 
your  correspondent  observes,  into  "  loving  idols," 
will  be  lessened  in  a  great  measure  if  he  wUl 
recollect  that  an  old  form  of  the  word  idleness 
was  ''  idlesse  "  (vide  Spenser).  No  doubt  the  old 
name  of  the  flower  was  'Move  in  idlesse,"  from 
which  the  corruption  into  '*  loving  idols,''  or,  as  I 
used  to  hear  it  pronounced  in  Wiltshire  as  a  boy, 
**  loving  idles,"  is  natural. 

I  perfectly  well  recollect  in  Somersetshire  the 
common  use  of  the  word  etnpt  for  "  empty." 

George  Woodhox7ss. 

8,  Cheaham  Place,  Brighton. 

"  Cast  for  Death  "  (4«»  S.  viii.  898,  458.)— 
My  father  has  in  his  possession  a  penny  which, 
like  the  halfpenny  mentioned  by  Mr.  Sweeting, 
is  perfectly  smooth.  On  one  side  is  scratched 
*'  Geor.  Hall  cast  for  death  at  Newgate  the  7  of 
December  1827  " ;  on  the  other  are  figures  of  a 
woman  and  little  child,  with  the  legend  **  Char- 
lotte Monday  and  her  mother."  My  father's  ex- 
planation is,  that  coins  of  this  desaiption  were 
supposed  to  be  scratched  by  condemned  culprits 
at  Newgate,  and  disposed  of  for  them  by  their 
friends  or  relations  in  exchange  for  the  means  of 
purchasing  little  comforts  otherwise  unattainable. 
lie  has  an  impression  that  he  has  somewhere 
read  an  account  of  these  coins,  in  which  this  ex- 
planation is  given,  but  cannot  recall  the  reference. 
The  scratching  was,  he  believes,  really  done  out- 
aide  the  prison  by  pensans  who  made  a  trade  of 


the  proceeding;  and,  judging  from  the  morbid 
fondness  which  is  exhibited  for  relics  of  criminals, 
the  suggestion  seems  likely  enough.  The  coins 
referred  to  by  your  other  correspondents  do  not 
seem  to  me  to  point  to  any  explanation  of  the 
words  "cast  for  death,"  or  the  dates.  If  the 
above  be  correct,  the  first  date  on  Mr.  Sweet- 
iNG^s  coin  would  be  that  of  the  sentence,  and  the 
second  that  of  her  execution.  A  reference  to  the 
Newgate  Calendar,  or  some  similar  work,  might 
throw  further  light  upon  the  matter. 

Jasies  Britten. 

British  Museum. 

Hogarth^s  "Modern  Midnight  Conv^ersa- 
TION  "  (4«»»  S.  viii.  268,  424.)  —  Since  my  note  at 
the  first  reference  I  have  been  assured  that  the 
painting  at  Lausanne  is  perfectly  genuine,  and 
that  its  purchase  is  under  consideration  by  the 
direction  of  our  National  Gallery.  An  English 
gentleman  now  in  Lausanne  is  acquainted  with 
the  history  of  the  picture,  and  says  that  it  outfht 
to  be  in  our  National  Gallery.  Thanks  to  Mr. 
Haig,  but  as  1  am  travelling  abroad  1  cannot 
accept  his  kind  invitation. 

James  Henrt  Dixon. 

Printers'  Errors  (4**»  S.  viiL  61,  passim^  440.) 
Dr.  Chance  quotes  the  scrap  of  Latin  founa 
among  the  papers  of  the  Rev.  J.  S.  Watson,  and 
says,  ''the  meaning  is  of  course  quite  plain." 
This  is  true  of  the  first  sentence,  but  if  he  will 
make  the  second  intelligible  in  English  he  will 
really  oblige  a  good  many  of  your  readers.  In  one 
of  the  daily  papers  it  was  translated — '*  It  has 
often  pained  one  who  loved  formerly  to  try  to 
love  always."  The  meaning  of  this  is  evident, 
but  it  is  obtained  by  introducing  the  words  to  trt/y 
for  which  there  is  no  sanction  in  the  original. 

L.  W. 

There  is  an  interesting  article  on  '^  Misprints '' 
in  Household  Words,  xi.  232. 

Edward  Peacock. 

Sir  Philip  Fitzwartn  (4«»»  S.  viii.  210,  337.) 
Hermentrx7DS  will  find  thatl  correctly  stated  the 

r rentage  of  Sir  Philip  Fitzwaryn  of  Bratton  (4*** 
viii.  210  •).  The  Philip  she  supposes  may  be 
the  same  is  a  ''  different  person  altogether,"  and 
moreover  mentioned  in  the  will  oi  his  grand- 
mother "  Elanor  Guaryn,"  given  in  my  reply  to 
one  of  Iter  own  queries  (4"»  S.  iii.  230).  I  may 
add  that  I  did  not  write  without  some  knowledge 
of  the  difiiculties  of  the  Fitzwaryn  pedigree,  occa- 
sioned chiefly  by  genealogists  who  nave  not  been 
sufficiently  careful  to  discriminate  between  the 
various  Fulks,  Williams,  Philips. 

A.  S.  Ellis. 

"  Finis  coronat  opus  "  (4"»  S.  viii.  67, 176.)-. 
Apropos  to  Mr.  Tibdevan's  remarks  on  this  old 

*  Erratum.— For  two  great  conoessions  read  too. 


4«»»  S.  IX.  Jan.  C,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES- 


23 


saying  (p.  175  of  the  previous  volume),  I  may  men- 
tion uiat  there  is  carved  in  stone  over  the  doorway 
of  an  addition  to  the  old  castle  of  Dalquharan, 
Ayrshire,  "  Ut  scriptura  sonat,  Finis  non  pugna 
coronat."  Dalquharan  is  the  seat  of  the  Kennedys 
of  Dunure,  and  the  new  portion  of  the  building  on 
which  the  legend  appears  bears  the  date  1679, 
about  which  time  it  was  a  pious  fashion  in  Scot- 
land to  quote  the  Bible  over  the  threshold  of 
houses  then  building.  I  have  been  in  hopes  of 
identifying  the  chapter  and  verse  of  the  scripture 
Mb.  Tiedeman  takes  so  much  interest  in,  but 
hafe  as  yet  failed  to  do  so.  The  mottoes  in  ques- 
tion were  not  always  exactly  in  the  words  of  the 
Bible — as,  for  instance,  that  found  in  Glasgow  over 
the  entrance  to  the  house  supposed  to  have  been 
the  residence  of  Zachary  Boyd,  who  wrote  the 
FUncers  of  Zion,  and  left  his  money  to  the  univer- 
sity.   The  motto  in  question  is  this — "  God's  pro- 


vidence  is  mine  inheritance. 


W.  B.  Scott. 


Bey.  Charles  West  Thomson  (4*^  S.  viii. 
265.)  —  This  gentleman  has  been  for  several 
years  past  the  rector  of  a  Protestant  Episcopal 
church  in  York,  the  county  town  of  York  County, 
Pennsylvania.  The  volume  entitled  The  Phantom 
Barge  and  other  Poems  contains  three  poems 
written  in  a  dramatic  form — namely,  "Albertine,  a 
Dramatic  Sketch  "  ;  "  lanthe,  a  Dramatic  Scene  " ; 
and  "The  Sisters,  a  Descriptive  Sketch."  The 
two  other  volumes  mentioned  contain  no  pieces  of 
this  kind.  IJneda. 

Philadelphia. 

Staith  (4»'»  S.  viii.  396,  489.)— This  word,  fre- 
quently spelt  staithej  is  in  common  use  in  Nor- 
wich and  throughout  the  districts  drained  by  the 
navigable  rivers  Wensum,  Yare,  and  Bure.  It 
signi&es  a  quay  or  landing-place  for  goods.  The 
word  is  found  in  old  records  and  deeds  as  well  as 
in  those  of  modem  date.  In  the  local  newspapers 
and  their  advertisements  the  word  is  in  current 
use.  P.  Le  Neve  Foster  (a  Norfolk  man.) 

Commonplace  Book  op  Lady  Elizabeth  Cope 
(4***  S.  viii.  391.) — For  notices  of  the  Cope  family 
I  would  refer  Mr.  Robinson  to  an  easily  got 
book — viz.  the  modem  reprint  of  Sir  Anthony 
Cope's  Godljf  Meditacion  vpon  XX  PsalmeSy  1547, 
with  its  full  biographic  introduction.  Probably 
the  present  Sir  W.  H.  Cope,  Bart.,  may  be  able 
to  shed  light  on  the  poetic  gift  of  Lady  Elizabeth 
Cope.  With  reference  to  the  initials  G.  W., 
they  are  plainly  those  of  George  Wither,  the 
Paraphrase  vpon  the  Creed  and  Lords  Prayer 
being  a  well-known  production  of  his,  not  pub- 
lished however  until  1688.  The  Spenser  Society 
ought  to  see  this  MS.  The  last  piece  printed  in 
Me.  Robinson's  interesting  communication  will 
be  found  appended  to  Tuke*s  Breaden  God  (1625), 
^hich  indeed  is  very  much  an  expansion  of  the 
lines,  as  half  owned  by  Tuke  himself  in  a  curious 


note  (see  my  reprint  of  Tuke  in  Fuller  Worthies^ 
Library  Miscellanies,  vol.  iii.)  The  other  "  copies 
of  verses ''  seem  familiar  to  me,  but  I  cannot  at 

? resent  "  not«  '*  where  I  have  met  with  them, 
'he  MS.  I  find  also  contains  Sir  Thomas  Browne's 
vivid  little  poem  known  to  everybody. 

A.  B.  Grosart. 
St.  Greorge's,  Blackburn,  Lancashire. 

"  Sketches  of  YorNo  Ladies  "  :  "  Sketches 
OF  Young  Gextlemkx  "  (3'*  S.  xii.  130,  219.)— 
In  your  number  for  August  17, 1887,  you  inserted 
a  (query  of  mine  as  to  the  author  of  these  two 
little  volumes.  I  asserted  too  confidently  that  the 
author  of  the  one  was  the  author  of  the  other, 
and  hazarded  a  guess  that  he  was  the  author  of  ^ 
Pickwick.  A  correspondent  answered  me  about  a  ' 
month  afterwards  (p.  219)  that  Charles  Dickens 
was  certainly  not,  for  that  another  gentleman  was, 
the  author  of  the  Sketches  of  Young  Ladies,  Mr. 
Forster  in  his  Life  of  Jbickens  now  tells  us 
(p.  128)  that  the  Sketches  of  Young  Gentlemen 
was  the  work  of  Charles  Dickens,  and  that  another 
volume  about  "  Young  Couples  "  proceeded  from 
his  pen.  The  latter  I  have  never  seen  nor  heard 
of  till  now.  C.  T.  B. 

French  and  Flemish  Emigrants  (4**>  S.  viii. 
283,  488.)— As  one  of  the  humble  but  not  labori- 
ous students  to  whom  Viator  alludes  in  '*  N.  &  Q.** 
(4'^  S.  viii.  476J,  I  take  the  liberty  of  informing 
£gar  that  there  is  a  list  of  eighty-one  foreign  names 
that  occurs  in  the  register  of  Sandtoft  Chapel  in 
a  small  -History  of  Thome,  printed  and  published 
by  S.  Whaley,  Thome,  1829.  The  name  of 
Amory  (suggesting  "  John  Buncle  ")  appears  twice. 

Maharg. 

"  Great  Griefs  are  Silent  "  (4"»  S.  viii.  166, 

195,  254,  291,  382,  491.)— There  is  a  beautiful 

expression  in  Metastasio  (Ctro,  atto  primo,  scena 

seconds),  which  is  confirmatory  of  this  saying : — 

"  Basta  cosi  t'  intendo  ; 
Gi^  ti  spieji^asti  a  pieno, 
£  mi  diresti  meno, 
Se  mi  dicessi  piii.*' 

II.  E.  Wilkinson. 
Penge.    . 

Finderne's  Flowers  (4**»  S.  viii.  92,  155,  286, 
4G4.)— In  "  N.  &  Q.''  (p.  92)  appeared  a  note  from 
me  signifying  that,  atter  a  careful  search,  Fin- 
derne's  flowers  were  found  to  be  Narcissus  poeticus. 
Mr.  Britten,  for  whose  botanical  judgment  I 
have  the  sincerest  esteem,  has  (p.  4o4)  objected 
to  my  inferred  conclusion  that  Narcisstis  poeticus 
is  a  native  of  Palestine.    I  therefore  feel  bound  to 

S've  the  data  from  which  I  draw  my  conclusion, 
iss  Rogers,  the  observant  and  truthful  author 
of  Domestic  Life  in  Palestine,  who  lived  in  that 
country  five  years,  and  journeyed  (we  may  say) 
"  from  Dan  to  Beersheba,"  and  from  "  the  shores 
of  the  great  sea  "  to  the  city  of  Damascus,  makes 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES- 


[4««  S.  IX.  Jas.  C,  7-2. 


frMueot  mention  of  the  flora  of  that  country ; 
and,  in  a  letter  that  I  received  Irom  her  in  June 
last,  she  says  that  **  Narcissus  poeticus  grows  in 
Palestine  by  ney^r-failing  stroams/' 

I  am  aware  that  Loudon  gives  Narcissus  poeticus 
as  a  native  of  "  eouth  of  Europe  "  only ;  so  also 
Nerium  oleander,  which  nevertheless  grows  abun- 
dantly on  the  banks  of  the  Jordan ;  nor  indeed 
are  the  olive,  the  myrtle,  anemonies,  cyclamens,, 
irises,  and  many  othei's — of  which  I  possess  dried 
specimens  brought  from  the  Holy  Land — recog- 
nised by  him  as  jiative  in  Palestine :  from  which 
we  may  infer  that  the  flora  of  that  country  is 
but  partially  known.  Therefore,  confiding  in  my 
friend  Miss  Ilogers'  authority,  I  still  incline  to 
believe  that  Narcissus  poeticus  is  a  native  of  the 
Holy  Land,  and  the  flower  which  the  good  Sir 
GeofTrev  planted  in  his  garden  at  Findeme,  and 
which  has,  by  its  persistent  growth,  perpetuated 
the  memory  of  a  lost  family  and  his  own  **  gentle 
knightliood.'*  A^xa  Harbison. 

BcckenhaBi. 

NiyE  Orders  of  Angkls  (4"»  S.  viii.  204,  t'^7, 
421,  491.) — The  orders  of  angels  were  first  re- 
duced to  nine  by  the  pseudo  Dionysius.  The 
most  perfect  representation  which  we  have  of 
them  18  in  a  series  in  the  windows  of  New  Col- 
lege Chapel,  Oxford,  an  ac^*ount  of  which,  with 
illustrations,  is  given  in  Parker's  Calendar  of  the 
Anglican  Church  ilhvftrated.  The  orders  are — (1) 
Angels,  (2)  Archangels,  (3)  Virtues,  (A)  Powers, 
^5)  Dominations,  (6)  Principalities,  (7)  Thrones, 
^8)  Scrnphim,  (9)  Cherubim.  Tlie  interme- 
liate  orders  (3,  4,  &c.)  are  frequently  alluded  to 
by  St.  Paul — e,  g,  Rom.  viii.  88 ;  Eph.  i.  21 ; 
Cfol.  i.  1(5;  and  by  St.  I^eter,  1,  iii.  22. 

E.  L.  BLENKiNsorr. 

Springthorpe  Rectory. 

"  Dir  "  Df  Mr.y DIP  (4^*'  S.  viii.  144, 275, 386.)— 
Does  not  the  Men  in  Mendip  (if  dip  is  the  Welsh 
Ji6,  fall,  or  depXXx)  indicate  the  worship  of  the 
moon,  as  in  the  Menai  (moon-water)  Straits,  Mon- 
mouth and  the  Monnow  ?  Mancunium  and  Man- 
duessidum  are  I  Romanised  forms  of  the  Northern 
nxani^  the  moon;  akin  to  "SovfjL-nvla  (inensis),  and 
the  Hebrew  manah^  numbered,  divided.  Min- 
erva  and  Sul  are  classed  as  the  same  goddess  in 
inscriptions  on  altars  now  extant  in  the  Bath 
Museum.  E.  K.  P. 

The  Shapwick  Monster  (4***  S.  viii.  334, 480.) 
Your  correspondent  Mr.  Johk  Cross  has  put  a 
poser  to  me.  I  do  not  believe  that  any  one  has 
the  slightest  idea  of  the  date  of  the  occurrence, 
which  rests  entirely  on  oral  tradition ;  and  may, 
80  far  as  I  know,  extend  back  to  the  glacial  age. 

W.  S. 

Stock  anj)  Flute  (4«»'  S.  viii.  419, 487.)— This, 
when  rightly  quoted,  *' stock  and  fluke,"  is  sea 
slaog,  and  means  totality  =  a  whole  anchor. 

•U.  0-N. 


This  (corrupted)  expression,  though  possibly 
obsolete,  is  no  bagman's  slang.  My  father  was  a 
merchant  and  shipowner,  and  1  constantly  heard 
something  like  it  both  at  his  table  and  in  his 
oftice  when  a  boy.  It  was  used  for  "  entirely," 
"  totally."  Any  one  over-head-and-ears  in  debt 
was  said  to  be  ruined  "  stock  and  flue  "  (not^^e), 
sometimes  ''pea  and  flue."  A  total  wreck  was 
described  in  the  sam^  form  of  words.  £ut  there 
was  a  stronger  form  of  the  saying  which  shows 
its  origin.  A  youth  desperately  smitten  with  the 
tender  nassion,  for  instance,  was  declared  to  be 
''  pea,  nue,  and  anchor-stock  "  in  love — the  nau- 
tical corruption  of  pedkj  Jiuke,  and  stocky  those 
parts  of  a  well-held  ship's  anchor  which  are  forced 
mto  (the  flrst  two  being  often  quite  buried  in) 
the  bed  of  the  sea.  Sherrards. 

The  Unbaptised  Child  (4«»»  S.  viii.  500.)— 
In  Mr.  Cuthbert  Bede's  paper,  "Traditionary 
Stories  of  Argryllshire,"  occurs  the  following  pas- 
sage:— 

**  It  i»  believed  by  many  in  Cantire  that  if  a  child  ilies 
before  it  has  been  baptised,  it  is  neither  taken  to  heaven 
nor  cast  into  hell,  and  that  its  soul  is  neither  lost  nor 
saved,  but  is  left  upon  the  earth  and  made  a  sgreachau 
raidhlicy  *  a  shrieker  of  a  burying- place.' " 

Does  not  this  Scottish  tradition  throw  some 

light  on  the  meaning  of  a*  passage  in  Macbeth^ 

Actl.  Sc.  7?  — 

*'  And  pity,  like  a  naked  new  bom  babe 
Stridina  the  blast,  or  heaven's  chcrubin,  hont'd 
Upon  the  siglitless  couriers  of  the  air. 
Shall  blow  the  horrid  deed  in  every  eye, 
That  tears  shall  drown  the  wind." 

H.  A.  Kexxbdy. 

Waterloo  Lodge,  Reading. 

At  liooe  and  Polperro,  in  southeast  Cornwall, 
unbaptized  children  were  formerly  believed  to 
become  fairies,  or,  in  the  language  of  the  district, 
pteJdcH,  SVm.  Pengelly. 

Torquay. 

PlG-ziLLiNG  (4«»»  S.  viii.  505.) —This  supersti- 
tion is,  I  believe,  widely  spread.  In  A  Joumcg 
to  the  Western  Islands^  SfCy  Dr.  Johnson  says  of 
the  people  there :  — 

**  They  expect  better  crops  of  grain  by  sowing  their 
Feed  in  the  moon's  increase.  TIm  moon  has  great  in- 
fluence in  vulvar  philosophy.  In  my  memoir  it  was  a 
precept  annually  given  in  one  of  the  English  almanacks, 
to  kill  hogs  when  the  moon  was  increasing,  and  the 
bacon  would  prove  the  better  in  boiling."---John8on'8 
Works,  London,  1796,  viii.  842. 

Did  Vox  Stellantm  condescend  to  utter  such 
imcelestial  injunctions?  St.  S within. 

The  superstition  mentioned  by  Mr.  Fa  lexer 
seems  to  have  been  very  prevalent  formerly.  See 
"Moon,  Superstitions  respectingthe,"  Petim/  Cy- 
clopadia,  voL  xv.  p.  378.  Wm.  Pehgellt. 

Folk  Lobe  :  RoBDre  {4^^  S.  viii.  505.)— The 
Bupentition  about  zobine  is  known  in  parts  of 


4^  S.  IX.  Jan.  G,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


25 


Derbyshire,  where  the   catching  or  killing  of  a 
robin,  or  taking  the  eggs  from  a  robin's  nest,  is 
certain  to  be  followed  by  misfortune  of  some  sort, 
such  as  the  death  of  cattle  or  the  blight  of  com.  , 
The  folks  say :  —  I 

"  Robins  and  wrens 
Are  God's  best  cocks  and  hens. 
Martins  and  swallows 
Are  God's  best  scholars." 

And  these  birds  are  for  the  most  part  held  in  , 
veneration.    But  I  know  of  places  where  the  de-  . 
light  of  rough  men  and  youths,  in  spare  time  on 
Sundays,  was  (and  perhaps  is^  "jcnty  hunting '^ 
that  is,  hunting  to  death  witn  sticks  and  stones  ' 
any  unfortunate  wren  they  could  find. 

Thos.  Ratcliffe. 

"  Maihire  "  (4*'»  S.  viii.  399,  470.)— It  does  not 
appear  that  this  word  is  ever  found  as  mdnure 
when  used  as  a  verb,  but  only  when  a  substantive. 
So  that  Cowper,  in  the  Garden,  has  preserved  for 
us  a  trace  of  a  distinction  which  we  snould  other- 
wise probably  have  overlooked ;  namely,  that  there 
was  at  one  time  a  different  pronunciation  for  the 
verbal  and  the  substantival  uses  of  this  word.  We 
are  fieimiliar  with  the  manner  of  distinction  in  a 
rebel  and  to  rehil;  a  ricord,  and  to  recdrd.  These 
distinctions  are  not  very  old,  as  appears  in  the 
latter  case  from  the  fact  that  the  lawyers  still 
speak  of  recordji  substantively.  Also  we  find  in 
Spenser  the  substantive  recdrd  — 

**  But  by  record  of  antique  times  I  finde." 

F.  Q.  iii.  2.  2. 

The  pronunciation  mdnure  is  therefore  merely  \ 
an  example  of  natural  eftbrt  to  mark  by  pronun- 
ciation the  difierence  between  the  verbal  and  sub-  | 
stantival  uses  of  the  same  word.  There  are  many 
other  cases  besides  the  above,  and  of  a  different 
sort.  Compare  the  difference  of  pronunciation 
between  a  house  and  to  house ;  between  a  use  and 
to  use :  an  advice  and  to  advise ;  a  prophecy  and  to 
prophesy.  It  was  new  to  me  that  the  word  manure 
had  ever  been  subjected  to  this  sort  of  modifica- 
tion, and  a  very  interesting  observation  it  is. 

JoHir  Eable. 

GriDMAN  (4'*»  S.  viii.  479.) — The  passage  re- 
quired from  Sir  George  Mackenzie  seems  to  be 
the  following  one,  which  occurs  in  chap.  ii.  of  bis 
Science  q/^  jfftfrfli</(?ry  (Edinburgh,  1680)— 

**Thi8  remembers  me  of  a  custom  in  Scotland,  which  is 
bat  gone  lately  in  dissuetnde,  and  that  is,  that  such  as  did 
hold  their  lands  of  the  prince  were  called  lairds ;  bat  snch 
as  held  their  lands  of  a  subject,  though  they  were  laige 
and  their  snperiour  very  noble,  were  only  called  good-men, 
from  the  old  French  word  bonne  homme,  which  was  the 
title  of  the  master  of  the  family." 

J.  H.  I.  Oaklet. 

KuiCMAGE  (4***  S.  viii.  453.)— Is  not  this  word 
rather  of  Anglo-Saxon  derivation,  from  Rum  and 
agan^  to  obtain  or  make  room,  which  appears  to 


be  its  correct  meaning,  used  commercially  at  the 
present  day.  *'  To  rummage  up  "  in  a  warehouse 
means  the  restowing  of  goods  to  make  room  for 
more.  Hence  "  rummage  sale  goods,"  which 
means  those  goods  are  offered  for  sale  found  on 
such  a  restowing  or  rummaging.  Likewise  the 
*' rummaging  a  ship"  is  the  clearing  away  the 
remanets  of  an  inward  cargo  preparatory  to  the 
taking  in  of  the  outward  cargo. 

William  Phillips. 

IIackne3\ 

Gabret  and  Gerald  (4'**  S.  viii.  479.)— We 
find  in  Jacob's  Laio  Dictionary ,  under  title  "  Mis- 
nomer," '*  Peter  and  Piers  have  been  adjudged 
one  and  the  same  name,  and  Garrett  and  Gerald 
are  but  one  name."  "  But,"  adds  Lower,  "  Garrett 
is  a  hamlet  in  Surrey,  famous  for  its  mock  mayor." 
No  doubt  Garret  might  corrupt  from  Gerald 
(Gerold,  Gerhold,  Jerrold,  Garrold,  Jarrold),  like 
Garbutt  from  Gerbold ;  but  Garrett  (Garett, 
Garratt)  is  more  probably  from  Gerard  (Garrard, 
Jarrard),  and  still  more  so  from  Garrad  (Garrod, 
Garrood,  Garrud),  the  inverse  of  Roger,  Rodger. 

R.  S.  Chaknock. 
Gray's  Inn. 

P.S. — The  first  syllable  of  the  name  Rodger  is 
from  the  0.  G.  raty  consilium,  consiliarius ;  the 
last  from  ger,  telum,  missile,  bellum,  cupidus, 
cupide  {gary  telum,  totus,  paratus,  valde). 

Miss  Yonge,  in  her  History  of  Christian  Names, 
tells  us  that  Gerhold,  a  Saxon,  migrated  to  Ireland, 
took  the  cowl,  ffounded  a  monastery  at  Tempul 
Gerald,  did  other  saintly  deeds,  and  died  a.d.  732. 
The  Irish  call  St.  Gerhold  "  Garalt,  and  have  con- 
fused his  name  with  the  Keltic  Gareth,  one  of  the 
Knights  of  the  Round  Table,  so  that  Garrett  and 
Gerald  are  regarded  as  identical." 

J.  H.  I.  Oakley. 

The  derivation  of  Gerald  (synonyms  Girald, 
Gerard,  Girard,  Giraud,  &c.,  and  probably  also 
Garret,  Jarrett,  &c.),  is  possibly  from  the  Welsh 
Geirydd,  a  speaker ;  or,  as  some  think,  the  Gaelic 
(and  allied  forms)  geier,  ger,  an  eagle  (preserved 
in  ger-fakon,  &c.)  The  name  of  Giralaus  Cam- 
brensis,  a  Welshman,  was  written  in  French — 
Gerald  or  Girard  Barri,  or  du  Barri.  His  patro- 
nymic did  not,  probably,  contain  the  /,  which  ap- 
peared first  in  the  Latinised  form.  This  trans- 
mutation of  liquids  is  illustrated  in  many  other 
words,  such  as  Bretwalda  for  Hr^i-tcarda, 

The  above  may  not  establish  the  identity  of 
Garret  and  Gerald,  but  it  shows  their  close  simi- 
larity, and  perhaps  points  to  their  common  origin. 

L.  Sbroeant. 

DovBROOURT  (4**  S.  viii.  479.)— Baxter  accounts 
for  too  much  in  deriving  the  first  part  of  this 
name  from  dwr  isc.  The  place  was  named  from 
its  situation  near  water,  n-om  the  British  dwr. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[l"*  S.  IX.  Jas.  fi,  '72, 


<{j^r.     Hence  Daier,  Keot,  Darned  from  a  stream 
called  the  Dore.  R.  S.  Cuarbock. 

Gray'-  Inn. 

QuEEtr  Maei-  (4'"  S.  viii.  433.)— Db.  Roqbrs 
quotes  the  register  in  the  CauoDgate  cburcb,  Edin- 
burgh,  as  to  a  record  of  tlie  uiurder  of  David 
Rizzio,  and  of  tbeQueen's  miinia^e.  The  register 
of  Rizzio'a  death  is  obviously  wiong.  The  mar- 
riage of  Mary  and  Darnley  took  place  in  July 
1505)  Rizzio  waa  assnSEinated  in  .March  15(Ki; 
Daralej  was  murdered  in  Feb.  l-'rtir.  See  Cham- 
bers' Book  of  Dam,  vol  i. :  also  Fronde's  Elisabeth, 
vol.  -viii.  J.  W. 

Wild  Beasm  tor  Salk  (4*  S.  Tiii.  514.)— I 
may  mention  (not  by  way  of  advertisement)  that 
on  page  990  of  the  I'ost  O^e  London  Directory 
for  1871  the  name  of  '■  Jnnirneb,  Chas.,  naturalist 
nod  importer  of  fijrei;:u  shells,  birds,  and  auimals," 
is  to  be  found,  A. 

iBisn  Bulls  (J'^S.  viii.  015.)— Mr.  W.  Steuart 
Trench,  in  liis  Realities  of  Irish  Life  (second  edi-  j 
tioD,  pace  l&i)),  has  these  wo:ds:  "The  house 
■where  the  triiil  took  place  was  a  large  barn"; 
Mid  I  heard  them  quoted  by  an  Irish  peer  (Lord 
Claucarty),  without  aoy  suggestion  that  there  was  ' 
anything  paradoxical  about  ibem,  in  the  great  ' 
debate  upon  the  Irish  Churob  in  the  House  of  i 
Lords  in  ISGO.  A. 

Bow  BE4BER  (4">  S,  viii.  414.)— Baines's  Lan- 
eadiire,  iii.  ;i05,  tells  us  as  rejrards  Uowlund  For-  I 
rest,  one  of  the  principal  otlicera  was  the  bow- 
bearer  and  chief  steward,  called,  in  a  patent  of  I 
Henry  IV.  to  Sir  James  Harrington,  the  forrester.  i 
In  alter  times  Undoes  says  he  was  called  the 
parker,  and  this  feudiil  oifice  was  beld  for  three  I 
centuries  by  the  fanaly  of  Parker  of  Browesholme  ; 
as  hereditary  bow- bearers  of  Bowland  Forest.  i 

P.P.    I 

The  Verb  "Progubss"  {4';>  S.  viii.  ;!69.)— So 
far  as  1  understand,  the  Americanism  is  not  the 
invention  of  a  new  verb,  but  the  ungrammatical 
alteration  of  the  inesulff  verb  "  progress  "  into 
the  apurioua  regular  verh  "  progress."  j 

In  tl.B  lines  of  Shakspeare  and  Ford  cited,  the  j 
rhythm  requires  a  fal?e  pronunciation — a  poetical  ' 
licence  maSe  use  of  by  liyron  in  his  "  Spoils  of 
Trafalgdr,"  and  by  ShiSispeare  himself  in  the  fol- 
lowing instance:  after  "  Bimam  Wood  shall 
march  to  Dunsinu'ne"  (which  is  correct),  we  ha^e  , 
"  high  DuuBinaae  hill."  Here  the  accent  is  on  1 
tin  to  suit  the  rhythm.  S.     | 

Coi:t  (4">  S.  viii.  51G.)— The  medal  or  counter  j 
described  by  F.  B.  seems  to  be  an  earlier  variety  j 
of  another  which  is  now  very  common.  On  the 
obverse  is  the  (Jueen'a  head  to  the  left,  with  j 
"H.  M.  G.  M.  (Her  Most  Gracious  Majesty) 
Queen  Victoria,  imi."  On  the  reverse  is  a 
hussai's  dress,  with  drawn  sword, 


but  wearing  a  crown,  galloping  to  the  right ;  at 
bis  side  a  two-headed  forked- tongued  dragon, 
with  wings  and  forked  tail.  "To  Hanover," 
above,  and  "  1837  "  in  the  eiergue.  This  date  of 
course  refers  to  the  accession  of  the  Duke  of 
Cumberland  to  the  crown  of  Hanover  when  her 
Majesty  became  Queen  of  Great  Britain,  and  was 
by  the  operation  of  the  Salic  law  precluded  from 
reigning  in  Hanover.  The  reverse  waa  no  doubt 
struck  at  the  time  it  bears  date.  The  obverse  is 
of  a  later  period.  They  are  both  of  -wretched 
workmanship.  Those  I  hai^e  seen  are  gilt;  and 
though  they  also,  as  stated  in  the  editorial  note, 
"  are  often  used  as  whist- mark  era,"  that  is,  by 
the  virtuous,  their  principal  employment  is  by 
sharpers,  who  will  displaj  a  handful  of  them  to 
intended  victim,  inducing  him  to  believe  that 


311. 


DiiBETES  Melliics  (4"' S.  viii.  617.)  — This 
disease  is  meolioned  by  Colsus  and  Galen,  and 
also  by  the  eminent  physician  Arelaius,  who  gives 
ft  very  pood  account  of  it.  Your  correspondent 
M.  would  do  well  to  consult  Etienne'a  eijooupoi; 
Areljeus,'  Utpi  aiT«w,  &c.  &c.  Lugd.  Bat.  1735, 
fol. ;  and  Kuehn  (C.  G.),  Med.  Gr'aearum  Opera 
qua  e.Ttmtt,  Lips.,  1821-30,  8vo.  The  late  Dr. 
Qolding  Bird  told  me  he  had  invented  a  better 
term  than  diabetes.  If  I  remember  rightly  it  was 
a  compound  of  ;itAi  and  p*«.      R.  S.  Chabhock. 

G toy's  Inn. 

Cure  for  EnECMATisii  {4""  S.  viii,  505.)— Of 
course  any  one  can  try  for  himself  the  cure  for 
cramp  noted  hy  A,  L.,  but  I  suspect  that,  the 
result  granted,  imayination  is  the  only  solution. 
Thus  as  to  the  remedy  of  the  raw  potato  in  rheu- 
matism I  can  vouch  for  the  following ;  Some  few 
yeors  ago  a  negro  from  the  United  States,  wishing 
to  deliver  a  lecture  on  the  Civil  War  in  America 
then  just  concluded,  called  on  a  cleixyman  in 
Osfordshire,  and  observing  him  wrilhe  Sequently 
during  the  interview,  asked  him  if  he  were  suf- 
fering from  rheumatism.  This  being  admitted  by 
the  vicar,  the  negro  confidently  recommended  a 
raw  poUto  carried  in  the  pocket  "  Ah,"  aiiid 
the  vicar,  "that  requires  faith,  which  I  have 
not."  _"  I  don't  want  faith,  but  a  potato,"  was 
the  rejoinder;  and  the  experiment  was  tried,  the 
polftlo,  strange  to  sny,  beinir  carried  in  the  bind 
pocket  of  a  loose  surtout.  The  cure  was  effected. 
Now  to  siiow  that  iniaginalimt  may  have  eiereised 
mysterious  influence  on  body  through  mind,  let 
me  give  a  aequel  to  the  above.  I  was  once  telling 
the  story  at  a  dinner-table  in  London,  when  one 
of  the  guests  broke  out  with  ;  "Oh,  I  know  all 
about  that  cure,  only  I  never  heard  of  the  potato. 
One  friend  of  mine  was  accosted  by  another,  and 


•  AtelKus  <l«anea  aioSl"!"  ' 
iv/wi-  {imujw." 


IfgfKUV    K 


wiirmly  thanked  for  hRTing  removed  his  rheumiitic  ; 
pains.  '  And,'  said  hi,  '  I  still  cnrry  ynur  ad-  ; 
mirable  remedy — here  ia  tlic  niitiiifij.'  '  iJless  nie,' 
Mid  the  other,  astonished;  'I  recollect  giving  yoii 
the  advice ;  but  I  never  mentioned  a  nntineij  -.  I  i 
recommended  you  a  magntl.' "  W.  T.  M. 

Shinfidd  Grove. 

Name  "Theastek"  (-l'"  S.  viii.  517-)— Tliid 
may  be  a  BUiname  which  has  been  need  as  a  bap- 
tisinal  name  or  a  corruption  of  Tliertsa,  or  of 
some  other  high -sounding  title,  which  the  parents  [ 
adopted  without  being  able  to  pronounce.  The 
mottier  of  a  cottage  giil,  Beatrice,  to  whom  I  was  , 
introduced,  spoke  of  her  as  he-trice,  thinking-,  I 
suppose,  that  as^,  e,a,  spells  pf\jt],  li,  e,  a  must 
Rpell  be.  I  had  to  ask  for  the  name  twice  before 
I  could  find  out  what  Be-tricc  meant. 


The  name  Theaster  would  seem  to  be  derived 
from  Si&t  and  'aotVi  meaning  God's  star.     C.  S. 

Surely  Theaster  ia  a  mistake,  a  concoction.  I 
have  both  married  and  buried  many  with  such 
concoct«d  names  since  I  became  a  clergyman,  but 
took  good  care  not  so  to  christen  any.     In  my 


Cimbntlqe  In  Ibe  Sfrtnttenth  Centvrij.  Fart  III.  Life 
„f  Bishop  Bedrlt  ft.  An  .S-,m.  Nmc  lirsl  rdUed  ba  Jotn 
]■:.  11.  Uavnr.  II.A.,  Fell-m-  riF  St.  Juliu's  (Jollene,  Cnm- 
briilire.  '(Trinted  for  lUe  Iklitut,  uuJ  sold  by  Mai> 
iiiillan  &  Cu.) 

This  was  oriainallv  inteacicd  to  h.n-a  bwn  accom- 
panied bv  a  iBtRcr  fife  bv  ilie  son-in-law  of  Bishop 
Uodell,  wiCb  the  addition  of  inediled  hlten  and  illustra- 
tive roles;  but  tlie  editor,  being  unwilling  to  dolav  any 
help  he  eould  render  to  (he  disendoived  Church  of  Irs- 
laud,  determined  to  issue  this  part  at  once,  "thegtOM 
proceeds  of  wliicb,  after  deducting  the  booksellers'  com- 
iniieion,  will  be  given  to  furtber  the  edutation  of  orphans 
of  Irbh  clerftymeo.  Chnrchinen  who  neknowledge  tbe 
political  justice  of  disestablishment  seein  of  all  men 
mo9t  bound  to  lighten  Che  dilSculties  which  beaeC  tlia 
cbuTch  under  the  altered  conditions  of  hei  life." 
A  Mirror  finr  .Wok*..  WriUeH  by  Leu-ii  nioiiui.  Abbot 
„/■  Si.  Baufi  Order.  Erlil«i  aitk  a  Prtfaix  by  Sir 
Coleridge,  Her  Majesty's  Attorney-General, 
■ __j  ._..  PjUu^  of  Queen's  ColleBC, 


la  a  male  called  "  Mince. 


It.lt 


JHiiccIIaneaud. 
NOTES  ON  BOOKS.  ETC. 


H.D.,  F.R.S. 

tlitutton  of  Great  Britain,  Fliyai 

the  Queen.     (Longmans.) 

A  physician,  a   inetspbyeician.  i 


tsfor 


friends,  those  friend*  have  only  shown  a  just  appreciation 
of  the  merits  of  tlie  volume  iu  urging  upon  Sir  Henry 
Holland  the  propriety  of  eiving  to  the  world  at  largo  hia 
very  striking  UrniiniKeacet  and  his  intelligent  comments 
on  the  scenes,  events,  and  remarkable  personages  tliat 
bave,  duriug  his  long  and  useful  life,  come  under 


tastiofthe  reader,  some  difference 


lording  li 


s  of  London  a 


prepai 

■which 
Tarioi 


6  peculiarly  u 


-estins-     His  a 


t  of  his 
ifeHsional  life  is  full  of  in- 
re  about  to  enter  on  the  caicer 
illj  pursued.  Hia  sketchci  of 
^ntinent,  to  the  Unittd  Slates, 
and  elsewbete  during  bis  autumnal  vacations  for  more 
than  half  a  century,  are  as  graphic  as  they  are  instructive; 
while  hi*  notices  of  the  various  remarkable  and  etnjnent 
pcfvonagee  witJi  whom  It  has  been  hi-s  good  fortune  to 
anociate,  will  probably  obtain  the  greatest  number  of  ad- 
ninra.  We  much  doubt  whether  the  present  season  will 
pTDduca  a  volume  wbich  shall  at  all  approach  in  deserved 
p^iilarlt;  the  Seminucmca  of  Fait  Liff. 


H.l'.  for  Exe 

Oxford,     (a  J.  Stew 

This   is    a    reprint    (with    the    orthography  slightly 
madeinised  and  made   uniform)    of   an  English   trans- 
lation  published  in    Paris  in  16TG.  of  a  very  popular 
Book  of    Devotion  written    by    Ludovicua    Franciscus 
Blosius  (Louis  Fran<;ois  de  Blois),  who  after  being  edu- 
cated in  the  Court  of  Cbariea  V.,  was,  on  account  of  the 
beauty  of  hia  character  and  holiness  of  his  life,  elected 
Abbot  of  the  monastery  of  Liessies  in  Uainsnlt,  when 
k  I'ALrniBUS.        only  twenty-four  years  of  age;  which  oiBce  he  continued 
lo  hold    till   his  death,  having  refused  the  AUiacv  of 
.  Tournay  and  the  Archbishopric  of  Camhrav.     Sir  John 
Coleridge  has  done  wisely  in  neither  changing  the  title 
altering  asenlence  here  and  there,  with  which  readers 
mging  lo  the  English  Church  may  not  agree ;  for  few 
lers  of  a  truly  Christian  spirit  but  will  gladlv  recog- 
I  I"-      nise  in  this  little  book  "  how  pure,    how  simple,    how 
V  lo      Scriptural,  how  devout,  how    intensely  and  essentially 
,  Christian,"   is  the  religion   here    taught   by  a  Uoman 
n  of     Catholic  Abbot  of  the  sixteenth  century, 
i™"^  I  Captain  Coi.  Ma  BallarU  and  Book;  or  R..bi!rtLa«rhan,'s 
I^tttr.     Wherfia   Part  of  the  A'«(.r(-,m»,M(  lo    tl,r 
Quan;  Mpinly  at  KUtingworth  Ca,IU  ia    tVanaiek 
Sheer,  in  thit    Summtr  Proqrru,   1673,  is  ligilfinl ; 
/rum  afreeod  OJIrer  in  the  CoHrt  te  hit  Jrte^  a  Ciliaa 
ami  Merchaunt  of  London.    Be-edited,  leilh  Forein/nlt 
describing  idl  the  acetuibh  Booh;  TeJei,  and  Ballads 
in  CUplain  Oox'e  Lilt  and  Tile  Camplayat  of  Scotland, 
lo48-a  A,D.    Bg  Frederick  J.  Fumivall,  M.A.,  Camb. 
(I'rinted  for  the  Ballad  Society.) 

We  heartily  wish  for  the  sake  of  the  Ilallad  Society, 

and  of  the  important  and  praiseworthy  objects  for  which 

culiar     that  Society  has  been  instituted,  that  it  had  t>een  possible 

h  part  uf     to  bave  brought  worthy  Captain  Cox  to  the  front,  and 

n.._n..       have  made  this  the  first  book  issued  by  the  Society.  How 

the  lovers  of  old  Ballads  would  have'  enlisted  under  his 

banner,  ready  tojnarch  through  Coventry  or  anywhere 


■ritb  hi 


But 


we  doubt  not,  will  be  led  by  this  new  volume  to  enrol 
themselves  on  the  list  of  member?.  For  the  book  is  one 
of  great  interest,  and  full  of  curious  information  i  and 
although  at  first  eight  tbe  reader,  when  he  turns  over 
the  ncarlv  two  hundred  pages  of  "  Forewords,"  may  be 
inclined  I'o  complain  with  Prince  Hal— "that  there  is 
an  intiJerable  deal  of  sack  to  but  one  halfpenny  worth  o! 
bread  "—yet,  when  ha  comes  lo  look  closer  into  it,  he  will 
be  well  pleased  that  it  is  so.  For  the  halfpenny  north 
of  bread,  that  is  "  Lanehim's  Letter,"  ia  somewhat  stale, 
having  been  before  reprinted ;  where.is  Mr.  Fumivall's 


28 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4»«»  S.  iX.  Jan.  6,  "72. 


sack  (bdoff  his  illostrations  of  the  Folk  Books  and  Bal- 
lads recorded  bv  Captain  Cox,  and  in  **  The  Complaynt  of 
Scotland/'  an(f  elsewhere)  thej*  will  find  racy  and  full  of 
iiavonr,  and  much  to  their  taste.  A  good  Index  adds  to  l^he 
value  of  a  book  which  well  deserves  the  attention  of  all 
students  of  Old  English  Literature. 

Yorkshire  Almanacks. — Students  of  our  local  dia- 
lects, and  admirers  of  provincial  humour,  may  be  glad  to 
know  that  the  following  almanacks  have  been  issued  for 
the  use  of  our  Yorkshire  friends  :—Tommy*s  Annual  for 
1872,  ncch  written  an  published  hy  Iliasen  (Leeds) ; 
TBaimsia  Foaks  Annual  for  1872,  and  all  he  Tom  Tred- 
dlehoyle^  Esq..,  hy  authority  a  t'man  i  fmoon  (Leeds)  ; 
The  Original  Illuminated  Clock  Almanack^  1872,  in  the 
Yorkshire  Dialect,  by  John  Hartlej'  (Halifax) ;  and 
lastly,  TTie  Dewsbre  Back  at  Mooin  Olmenac  an  T*  West 
Ridin  Historical  Calendar  for  T'Year  1872.  Put  to- 
(fether  hi  Mungo  Shoddy,  Esq.^  B.M.A, 

British  Museum. — The  last  addition  to  the  most 
useful  Class-Catalogue  of  Manuscripts  in  the  British  Mu- 
seum consists  of  three  volumes  of  Chronicles  and  His- 
tories, arranged  according  to  countries,  and  in  order  of 
time.  It  is,  as  inopection  has  satisfied  U9,  says  The 
Athemuum,  an  admirable  piece  of  work,  and  has  been 
done  by  Mr.  E.  Maunde  Thompson,  one  of  the  officers  of 
the  Manuscript  Department. 

Letters  of  Junius. — It  is  announced  by  the  Pall 
Mall  Gazette  that  the  Lord  Chief  Justice  of  England  has 
undertaken  to  sum  up,  in  a  series  of  critical  articles  in 
The  Academy^  the  whole  of  the  circumstantial  evidence 
respecting  the  authorship  of  the  **  Letters  of  Junius,*' 
induding  that  of  handwriting,  as  latclv  brought  forward 
by  the  Hon.  E.  Twisleton  and  Mr.  Chabot.  The  first 
article  of  the  series  will  be  published  on  January  15. 

Livingstone  Expedition. — It  is  understood  that  the 
Government  have  decided  to  gi\*e  no  aid  to  the  Geogra- 
phical Society  in  their  prop<»ed  Livingstone  expedition. 
Under  these  circumstances  the  society  has  undertaken  the 
expedition  on  its  own  account,  and  we  are  sure  the  sym- 
pathy and  support  of  the  public  will  not  be  wanting. 


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Strand. 

IjAw*s  Thrck  Lettkbs  to  tub  Bishop  or  BAXooa.  sth  Edition. 

sto,  c.  1750. 
DuRAXUCH  05  SrxROLiSM,  translated  by  Ncale  and  Webb.   Sto. 
Jiceds. 

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LOyDOy,  SATURDAT,  JANUARY  13,1872. 


CONTENTS.— No  211. 

KOTES :  —  Napolpon  on  Bonrd  the  Northumberland,  29  — 
Knitlbth  Gilds :  Early  PHiitlnff :  Parchment  Paper,  SI  — 
Chancftr  Rrttored.  32  —  The  Durham  MS.  of  Earle's  "  Mi- 
I  rtx-osmnjrmiihie,"  33  —  The  Gatc«  of  Somnauth  —  Doctor 
Nnsh  —  Parsley-bed  —  Health  Enquiries  —  "Better  to 
rfijrn  in  Hell  than  «^rvo  in  Hearcn"— Unrecorded  Saying : 
-Like  the  Walsall  ManV  Goose"  —  Longevity  —  Polk 
l.or«:  Chriatmas  Decorations  and  tho  Upper  Room  — 
Faxen  —  Bernard  Lvuit  and  hia  Sons  —  Boyhood  of  Charles 
Dickens,  34. 

QUERIES:  —"The  Lexington  Papers"  36  —  American 
Queries—  Cheap  Bookcases  —  Bows  in  Bonnets  —  Uohert 
iJutts,  D.D.,  Bishop  of  Ely.  1738-48  —  "Carpathian 
Wizard's  Hnok  "  —  Commercial  Queries  —  Coutts  Family 

—  Henri  Deux  Ware  —  Heraldic  Hedgehog  —  "  Mary 
Anne  "  —  Poyntz  Family  —  Prober  —  Quotation  wanted  — 
(Rapture  of  Richard  I.  —  Royal  Heads  on  Bells  —  Arms  of 
Pnuce  Rupert  — George  Sandys  — Three  Leaves  eaten  for 
the  Holy  Sacrament  —  Sir  Topas  —  Wattou  Castle,  30. 

BEPLIB8 :  —  Gainsb^vrougb  as  a  Mnsidan,  39  —  An  Ameri- 
can Centenarian,  40  —  The  Latin  Language.  Ajo.,  41  — 
Public  Teachers,  42  —  Longfellow  —  Camp«thead  —  <X'r- 
vantrs  and  his  Translators  —  Archery  venus  M  uski'try  — 
"  Pri«e  "  —  Funeral  of  Queen  Caroline—  Washing  Hands 

—  David :  Davit  —  Bonnets  —  Heron,  or  Heme  —  '*  Black 
Bamsley  **  —  Camb- Pencil  —  Genealogical  Hint  —  Stereo- 
scopy  — "The  Mistletoe  Bough "— Marriages  of  English 
Priuoeaaes  —  Gybbon  Spilsbury  — .  Battle  of  Harlaw  — 
Orphanage —  ** lie  made  the  Desert  smile"—  Christen- 
ii«  Bit,  43. 

OD  Books,  Ac. 


ftniti. 

NAPOLEON  ON  IJOARD  THE  NORTIIUMDER- 

LAND.* 

''  I  therefore  quitted  the  cabin,  and  went  to  the 
admiral,  to  whom  I  stated  my  reasons  for  wish- 
ing to  retire,   and  he  agreed  with   mo;    upon 
which  T  returned  and  whispered  to  Lord  Lowther 
and  Sir  G.  liingham  what  had  passed  between  me 
and  the  admiraL     After  whicli  I  said,  '  Monsieur 
le  General,  j'ai  Thonneur  de  vous  saluer.'     He 
made  a  slight  return  to  nij  bow,  and  I  quitted 
him.     My  companions,  however,  probably  not  un- 
derstanding what  I  had  ^aid  to  them,  remained, 
and  in  about  five  minutes  I  returned  into  the 
cabin  by  the   admiral's  direction,  and    brought 
them  away.    Lord  Lowtlier  told  me  that  during 
my   absence    Bonaparte    liad    laid    hold    rather 
eagerly  of  Sir  G.  Bingham *a  ribbon  at  his  button- 
hole, and  asked  him  what  it  meant.     Bingham 
told  him  it  was  for  service  in  Spain.     B.  *  For 
Salamanca  ?  '    Sir  G.  '  It  moans  four  medals  for 
four  general  actions.'    }3onaparto  did  not  bid  him 
enumerate  them,  but  only  said  '  So  you  have  seen 
a  good  deal  of  service,'  or  some  such  words.     I 
now  thought  it  was  all  over,  as  we  were  to  go  on 
shore  immediately  as  soon  its  the  despatches  were 
ready,  of  which  Lord  Lowther  was  to  be  the 
bearer :  so  we  got  some  cold  meat  in  the  fore-cabin, 

*  Continued  from  p.  5. 


and  as  we  were  at  table  behold  the  door  opened,  and 
Bonaparte,  followed  by  Bertrand,  made  ms  appear- 
ance.   On  seeing  nfe,  who  fronted  him,  he  sniiled, 
and  said,  *  Allez-vous  a  terre  ? '  L.  *  Oui,  Monsieur 
le  General,  nous  mangeons  un  morceau  avant  do 
partir.'    He  passed  on,  and  went  out  upon  deck. 
We  then   made   extreme    haste    to    finish    our 
luncheon,  and  in  a  cduple  of  minutes  Lowther 
was  after  him,  and  I  in  a  minute  after  that  Look- 
ing through  the  window  in  the  mean  time  I  saw 
Bonaparte  walking  briskly  up  and  down  and  look- 
ing at  tho  rigging,  then  stopping,  and  bending 
down  courteously  to  speak  to  Madame  Bertrand    . 
and  Madame  Montholon»  who  were    sitting    in 
chairs  under  the  bulwark.     AVhen  I  came  upon 
deck  I  went  on  to  the  mainmast,  and,  tummg 
round,  saw  Bonaparte  standing  close  to  the  poop, 
talking  to  Lord  Lowther,  who  had  his  hat  off. 
Shortly  afterwards  they  advanced,  and  then  Low- 
ther put  on  his  hat,  rather  slowly  and  hesitatingly. 
On  coming  up  to  me  Bonaparte  spoke  to  me,  and 
made  mo  face  about  with  him,  and  on  arriving 
within  a  yard  or  two  of  tho  poop  halted  there^and 
entered  into  the  following  conversation  with  me : 
B.  (looking  round  at  tho  bulwark,  which  wanted 
painting  in  several  places)  '  Co  vaisseau  paroit 
avoir  utti  <?quip(^  a  la  hate.'    L.  *  Monsieur  le  Ge- 
n<5ral,  il  est  vrai,  mais  en  revanche,  c'est  un  de  no8 
meilleurs  vaisseaux,  il  est  surtout  tres-bon  voilier.' 
B.  *  On  auroit  pA  envoy er  d'autres  vaisseaux  qui 
sont  en  meilleur  dtat ;  il  y  avoit  u  Plymouth  le 
Chatham  par  exomple,  ou  bien  le  Tonnant*    To 
this  I  answered  that  I  did  not  know  precisely  in 
what  condition  those  ships  were,  but  that  they 
might  be  in  very  good  condition  to  float  in  Ply- 
mouth harbour  or  to  cruise  in  the  Channel,  and 
yet  not  tit  for  foreign  service.     Here  some  officers 
on  the  poop,  whom  lie  had  not  seen  before,  caught 
his  eye,  and  he  asked  Binpham  abruptly  what 
those  epaulettes  were.     Bingham  answered,  the 
light  infantry  division  of  his  regiment.     I  then 
inquired  of  *him  whether  there  were  marines  in 
the  French  navy ;  to  which  he  replied  in  the  afllr- 
malive.     Shortly  afterwards  I  took  up  the  subject 
of  his  accommodation  in  the  Northumberland,  and 
said  I  hoped  it  was  tolerably  good ;   that  it  would 
have  been  better  if  the  ship  had  not  been  so  hastily 
fitted  out,  and  added  that  I  was  sure  the  admiral  and 
his  ollicei-vS  were  desirous  of  doing  all  they  could 
to  make  his  voyage  pleasant,  oi*  some  such  words. 
On  this  he  took  occasion  to  break  out  into  com- 
plaints against  the  conduct  of  our  government  in 
confining  him  at  all.    B.  *  Vous  avez  souill^  le 
pavilion  et  Thonneur  national  en  m'emprisonnant 
comme  vous  faites.'     L.  *  On  n'a  violo  aucun  en- 
gagement avec  vous,  et  Tint^Srot  de  la  nation 
demande  que  vous  soyez  mis  hors  d'etat  de  rentrer 
en  France ;  vous  n'etes  sujet  a  aucun  degn^  decon- 
trainte  qui  ne  soit  n^cessaire  a  raccomplissement 
de  cot  objet.'    B.  ^Peut-etre  done  ce  que  vous 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«»  S.  IX.  Ja^.  18.  '72. 


faites  est  prudent,  mais  ce  n'est  pas  g^n^reux.' 
L.  '  De  particulier  a  pafticulier  la  g^n^rositt^  est 


de  saison,  mais  Monsieur  le  G^n^ral,  Vint^ret  na- 
tional doit  determiner  la  conduite  de  nos  Ministres, 
qui  sont  comptables  a  la  nation,  et  la  nation  exige 
aeux  de  vous  mettre  en  lieu  siir."      B.    '  Vous 
agissez   (or  vous  raisonnez)   comme  une  petite 
puissance  aristocratique,  et  non  comme  un  grand 
etatlibre  I  Je  suis  venu  m'asseoir  sur  votre  sol,  je 
'  Toulois  vivre  en  simple citoyen  de  TAngleten-e.'  On 
this  I  told  him  that  every  account  from  France 
proved  that  his  party  was  exceedingly  powerful, 
that  aflairs  might  take  such  a  turn  there  that  he 
should  again  be  recalled  to  the  throne,  and  (to 
put  the  argument  in  the  least  olTensive  way  to 
nim)  he  might  think  himself  in  honour  bound  to 
obey  the  call.     B.  *  Non,  non,  ma  carridre  est  ter- 
min^e.*    I  reminded  liim  of  his  having  used  the 
same  words  a  year  ago  in  Elba,  on  which  he  ex- 
claimed with  great  animation :  *  J'etois  Souverain 
alors,  j'avois  le  droit  de  faire  la  guerre,  lo  roi  de 
France  ne  m*a  pas  tenu  parole ; '  and  then,  quite 
exultingly,  laughing  and  shaking  his  head  signifi- 
cantly, *  J'ai  fait  la  guerre  au  roi  de  France  avec 
six  cents  hommes  ! '     Here  we  all  laughed ;  *  we 
could  not  help  it,  his  manner  was  so  remarkably 
dramatic,  and  the  thing  said  so  pointed.    After  a 
minute's  laughing  I  said,  thinking  to  get  some- 
thing out  of  him  about  Italy,  that  many  people 
in  England  wondered,  at  the  moment  of  his  re- 
appearance in  France,  that  he   had  not  rather 
disembarked  in  Upper, Italy.    B.  ^J'ai  ^to  assez 
bien  re^u  en  France,  n*est-ce  pas  ?  '  and  then  he 
went  on  describing  his  reception  :  how  ho  ad- 
vanced^'without  a  guard,  and  now  he  could  have 
raised  four  millions  of  peasants.    I  said  I  did  not 
doubt  his  popularity  in  France ;  that,  however,  I 
thought  it  extraordinary  the  conscription  should 
not  make  him  unpopular  with  the  peasants.     B. 
*  Ce  sont  vos  pr^jng^s,  la  France  n'est  pas  tSpuisc^e.' 
L., '  La  loi  de  la  conscription  ^toit  pourtant  trds- 
rigoureuse,   vous  preniez  jusqu'a  1  unique   fils.' 
B.  'Ah,  non !  ce  sont  vos  prejug^s,  des  chim6res.' 
He  then  repeated  his  charges  against  the  English 
government,  and  said  if  he  had  not  expected  far 
different  usage,  he  would  not  have  given  himself 
up  to  us ;  that  he  had  many  resources  left — that 
he  might  have  surrendered  to  the  Emperor  of 
Bussia,  or  to  the  Emperor  of  Austria.    L.  '  Pour 
TAutriche,  passe — ^mais  pour  le  projet  de  vous 
rendre  a  TEmpereur  Alexandre,  vous  me  permet- 
trez  d'en  douter.'    (I  knew  that  he  had  said  the 
day  before,  with  a  ehrug,  when  Lord  Keith  told 
him  he  might  have  been  delivered  up  to  the  Rus- 
flians, '  Dieu  m'en  garde  I ')    lie  defended  himself 
i)at  laintly  on  this,  and  only  said,  to  the  best  of 

*  "  When  I  say  we^  I  mean  Lord  Lowther  and  Bing- 
hain»  besides  myself.  Mr.  E.  Byng  had  put  himself  into 
the  Tonnant  jast  after  Bonaparte  came  on  board  the 
Northamberland."     . 


my  recollection,  that  the    Emperor    Alexander 
loved  France  and  Frenchmen,  or  some  such  words. 
Then  he  asserted  that  he  could  have  joined  the 
army  of  the  Loire,  and  should  presently  have 
been  at  the  head  of  100,000  men.    I  observed 
that  the  Prussians  or  perhaps  the  Duke  of  Wel- 
lington might  have  intercepted  him. '  He  answered 
that  the  ganison  of  Ilodbefort  was  dtvoted  to 
him,  and  offered — nay,  came  and  besought  him, 
with  tears  in  their  eyes,  to  be  allowed  to  escort 
him  to  Bordeaux,  where  he  should  have  found 
more  troops,  and  might  easily  have  effected  his 
purpose.     This  I  did  not  dispute,  but  said  it  would 
have  been  a  hazardous  step,  since  after  all  the 
allies  would  probably  have  been  too  strong  for 
him.     He  admitted  that,  but  alleged  that  '  il  y 
j  auroit  eu  de  quoi  capituler  * — an  opinion  I  was 
not  inclined  to  controvert,  and  so  that  rested 
there ;  and  he  renewed  his  declamation  against  us 
for  confining  him,  saying  it  would  increase  the  irri- 
tation in  France,  and  disgrace  us  in  the  eyes  of  all 
Europe.     I  repeated  the  arguments  I  hail  used  at 
first  in   vindication  of  our  conduct,  which  pro- 
voked him  to  say,  after  some  repetition  of  his  wish 
to  have  lived  in  retirement  on  his  estates  like  his 
brother,  '  Vous  ne  connoissez  pas  mon  caractcre, 
vous  auriez  dii  vous  fier  a  ma  parole  d'honneur.' 
L.  *  Oserais-je  vous  dire  (or  permettez  que  jo  vous 
disc)  la  v^rit^  nette  ?'    B.  *  Dites.'    L.  *  II  faut 
done  que  je  vous  dise,  que  depuis  le  moment  de 
^invasion  de  TEspagne  il  n'y  a  guere  de  particu- 
lier en  Angleterre  qui   ne  se  soit   defi(5  de  vos 
engagemens.'    B.  *  J'ai  6i6  appeld  en  Espagne  par 
Charles  IV,  pour  Taider  centre  son  tils.'  L.  *  Mais 
pas,  a  ce  que  je  crois,  pour  placer  le  roi  Joseph 
sur  le  trone.'    B.  '  J'avois  un  grand  syste^me  poli- 
tique, il  etoit  necessaire  d'<$tablir  un  contro-poids 
a  votre  ^norme  puissance  sur  mer,  et  d  ailleurs  ce 
n'est  que  ce  qu  ont  fait  les  Bourbons,*  or  some 
such  words.     L.  *  Mais  il  faut  avouer.  Monsieur 
le  G^n^ral,  que  la  France  sous  votre  sceptre  ^toit 
beaucoup  plus  a  craindre    que  la  France  telle 
qu'elle  ^toit  pendant  les  dernieres  annoes  du  n''gne 
de  Louis  XIV,  d'ailleurs  elle  s'lStoit  agrandie/     B. 
*  L'Angleterre  de  son  c6t($  ^toit  devenu  bien  plus 
puissante,'  and  he  instanced  in  our  colonies,  and 
m  our  Indian  acquisitions.     L.  *  Beaucoup  de  gens 
eclair^s  sont  d*avis  que  I'Angleterre  perd  plus 
qu'elle  ne  gagne  a  la  possession  de  cette  puissance 
d^mesur^e  et  lointaine.*    B.  'Jevoulois  rajeunir 
I'Espagne,  faire  beaucoup  de  ce  que  les  Cort^s  ont 
tent^  de  faire  depuis.'     I  then  recalled  him  to  the 
main  question,  and  reminded  him  of  the  character 
of  the  transaction  by  which  he  had  obtained  pos- 
session of  Spain ;  to  which  he  made  no  answer,  but 
tbok  another  line  of  argument  on  the  subject  of 
his  detention,  and  said  at  last, '  Eh  bien,  je  me 
suis  tromp^,  replacez-moi  a  Rochefort/  or  some- 
thing to  that  effect.    I  cannot  recollect  at  what 
precise  period  of  the  discussion  Bonaparte  said 


4^  3.  IX.  Jan.  13, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


31 


these  words :  ^  Je  voulois/  or  *  je  pensois,  preparer 
au  Prince  Regent  Tt^poque  la  plus  gloneuse  de 
son  regne/  but  the  rery  words  I  remember  dis- 
tinctly.    I  am  in  the  same  uncertainty  as  to  the 
moment  when  he  said,  *  Si  vous  n'aviez  d'autre 
dessein  que  d*agir  selon  les  regies  de  la  prudence 
(or  some  such  words),  pourquoi  done  ne  pas  me 
tuer  ?  c'eut  et6  le  plus  sur.'     lie  once  interrupted 
me.     I  was  going  to  say  our  conduct  was  regulated 
by  a  necessary  policy,  but  when  I  had  uttered  the 
words  ^  une  politique '  he  cut  me  short,  and  put 
in  '($troit«.*     lie  filled  up  the  interval  of  this 
little  debate  with  repeated  assertions  that  the 
English  government  and  nation  were  disgracing 
themselves.     Such   expressions  as  these :  *  Non, 
vous  avez  fletri  le  pavilion, — ce  n'est  pas  en  user 
noblement  avec  moi, — la  post<5rite  vous  jugera,* 
were,  if  one  may  so  say,  the  burden  of  his  song. 
There  are  many  other  remarkable  passages  of  this 
conversation  which  1  must  set  down  looselv  as 
they  occur  to  my  recollection.    I  could  hardly 
place  them  in  anything  like   the   real   order  of 
their  succession,  and  it   is  not  worth  while  to 
attempt  it,  since  nothing  would  be  gained  by  the 
arrangement.     I  asked  him  his  opinion  of  Mr. 
Fox;  he  said,  *  J'ai  connu  M.-Fox,  ie  I'ai  vu  aux 
Tuileries,  il  n'avoit  pas  vos  prejupls.*  L.  *  M.  Fox, 
Monsieur  le  General,  ^toit  zel(5  citoyen  de  sa  pro- 
pr«  patrie ;  de  plus,  citoyen  du  monde.*     B.  *  II 
^toit  sincere,  il  vouloit  la  paix  sincerement,  et 
moi  je  la  voulois  aussi,  sa  mort  empccha  que  la 
paix  ne  fut  faite;  les  autres  n'etoient  pas  sin- 
ceres.'    lie  said  abruptly,  some  time  after  we  had 
quitted  the  subject  of  the  Emperor  Alexander, 
*  So  you  have  no  great  opinion  iu  England  of  this 
Emperor  Alexander,'  or  something  to  that  effect. 
I  answered,  vre  Jtad  not:   that   he  was,  indeed, 
soft-spoken  (doucereux),  and  had   flattered  some 
women,  but  that  Englishmen  in  general  thought 
but  meanly  of  him ;  that  for  my  part  I  did  not 
see  how  one  could  admire  a  prince  who,  with  all 
his  boasted  magnanimity,  had  yet  possessed  him- 
self 80  unworthily  of  Finland  and  roland.     I  did 
not  clearly  make*  out  his  answer  to  tliis.     Shortly 
after  he  inquired  whether  I  had  been  at  l^eters- 
burg,  and  when?     I   told  him   yes,  the  winter 
before  last.     On  which  he  asked  whether  I  had 
been  at  Moscow,  and  finding  I  had  not  he  paused, 
but  5iX)n  v^aid,  with  au  abruptness  and  ea«reme.*s 
rather  remarkable,  *  Au  reste,  ce  n'est  pas  moi  qui 
ai  brule  Moscou.'     L.  *  I  never  thought  you  had 
committed  such  an  act  of  folly  as  to  set  fire  to 
your  own  winter  quarters.'     I  then  returned  to 
the  subject  of  Petersburg,  and  told  him  that  when 
I  was  there  I  found  several  people  who  spoke 
well  of  him — ^better  indeed  than  I,  as  an  English- 
man, liked.    lie  answered,   *  Eh !   pourquoi  me 
hiuioient-ils?  Je  leur  ai  fait  laguene,  voilatoiit !' 
To  tbia  1  leplied,  that  the  war  was  somewhat  un- 
Ipcovoked,  I  thought,  or  something  to  that  effect. 


He  said, '  Je  voulois  retablir  la  Pologne.'  I  let  that 
pass,  and  took  occasion  to  tell  him  how  much  attach- 
ment the  two  Polish  officers  had  shown  him.    He 
did  not  affect  much  feeling  on  this,  and  only  said 
*  It  is  a  brave  nation.'     1  told  him  I  had  heard 
great  praise  of  Prince  Poniatowski.  Bonaparte  said 
of  him  that  he  was '  Chevalier,  celui-la  c'^toit  le  vrai 
roi  do  Pologne.'     *    ♦    •    *   being  mentioned,  he 
said  he  was  a  traitor.    L.  *  Vous  voulez  dire,  por- 
teur  des  deux  dpaules  *r  '     He  did  not  at  first  un- 
derstand the  meaning   of  the  phrase,  which  I 
suppose  is  not  a  good  French  one,  but  soon  eluci- 
dated his  own  meaning  thus :  '  C'est-a-dire,  du 
parti    russe,   c'est  ce  que  nous  appelons  trtutres 
nous  autres  polonois.'     Lowther  told  him  I  had 
made  a  speech  about  Saxony  ;  I  acknowledged  it, 
and  said  I  would  not  disguise  my  sentiments  on 
the  subject  from  him.     That  I  had  witnessed  the 
attachment    of  the  Saxons  to  their  king,   and 
thought  they  were  cruelly  used  by  the  Allies, 
especially  since,  if  I  was  not  mistaken,  the  battle 
of  Leipzic  was  decided  by   the*  Saxon  troops. 
This  he  assented  to,  and  told  us  that  on  a  sudden 
2.5,000  men  and  60  or  80  pieces  of  cannon  were 
turned  against  him;  that,  though  this  was  not 
fatal  to  him  at  the  moment,  he  found  the  day 
aft^r  that  it  had  put  out  all  his  caliculations,  and 
he  was  obliged  to  retreat.    I  do  not  remember 
whether    he    said  anything  else  about  Saxony. 
Soon  after  he  said  that   there  was  an  end  of 
Bavaria,  the  States  of  the  Rhine,  &c.,  and  that 
now  ^  L'Autriche  et  la  Prusse  dcrasent  tout.'     To 
this  I  replied  that  it  might  be  so,  or  something 
like  it ;  but  that  our  interest  required  rather  the 
aggrandisement  of  those  powers,  and  the  reduc- 
tion of  the  others,  since  France  would  find  it 
easier  to  maintain  an  influence  among  those  petty 
states  than  at  Vienna  or  Berlin.      He   readily 
admitted  that  we  ought  to  keep  down  the  French 
interest,  and  said  several  times  in  the  course  of 
the  conversation  that  it  was  our  business  lo  try 
to  reduce  the  power  of  France.     If  my  memory 
does  not  deceive  me,  he  used  some  expression  like 
this :  *  You  should  keep  your  eye  upon  France.' 
[To  be  concluded  in  our  next.] 


KNGLlSn  GILDS:    EARLY  TRIXTING : 
PAKCIIMKXT  PAPER. 

The  late  Mr.  Toulmin  Smith,  in  his  very  valu- 
able work  on  English  Gilds  published  by  the 
Early  English  Text  Society,  1S70,  mentions  two 
most  interesting  discoveries  which  he  supposes  he 
had  made— <».  //.  In  a  note  (p.  ITo)  he  draws 
attention  to  a  roll  then  bearing  the  Ilecord  Ottice 
register  mark  cccx.  200  (now  English  Gilds, 
No.  252),  which  he  says  it  is  impossible  to  look 
at  without  the  suggeslion  arising  that  it  is  not 
xorUteHy  but  impressed  with  letter  stamps ;  and  he 
supports  this  conclusion  chiefly  upon  the  supposi- 


32  NOTES  AXD  QUERIES.  [4-  s.  ix.  jax.  13,  72. 

• 

tion  that  where  the  inlt  has  disappeared  the  forms  '■  letters  lost ;  perhaps  they  were  jrenerally  executed 
of  the  letters  reiuahi  deeply  impressed  upon  the  by  a  more  skilful  hand ;  certainly  those  who  are 
vellum,  so  d(?eply  that  they  can  oe  felt  blindlold  :  accustomed  to  ancient  MSS.  must  often  have 
with  the  linj^er,  alle«ring  that  "  the  ink  has  not  '■  noticed  them  uniinished  in  this  respect.  The 
eaten  awa.y  the  vellum  and  made  it  transparent";  '  reason  assiunied  by  Mr.  iSmith  would  apply  equally 
and  further,  that  the  initial  letters,  which  at  the  .  to  a  written  or  a  printed  document, 
beginnuig  of  each  paragraph  it  was  intended  to  ■  Parrhmeht  Paper, — I  am  also  obliged  to  differ 
illuminate,  are  not  iinished.  frcnu  Mr.  Smith's  conclusions  as  to  what  he  calls^ 

With  tlie  liijrhest  respect  for  the  learning  and  ^"  parchment  paper,'*  which  he  considers  ho  has 
sagacity  of  Mr.  Smith,  after  liavin;^:  carefully  exa-  discovered  in  ilu'se  records  (see  note,  pp.  132, 133). 
mined  the  document  to  which  he  refers,  I  am  I  have  carefully  examintnl  the  documents  alluded 
constraineil  to  ditfer  from  him  in  these  conclu-  ;  tn,  and  have  no  doubt  tli^»y  are  simply  of  vellum, 
aions.  In  the  Urst  place,  there  could  not  have  Mr.  Smith  admits  that  they  are  of  *'  the  colour 
been  any  object  in  printing  a  document  of  wliich  and  stoutness,  and  have  tin*  jj-'.-neral  appearance  of 
one  copy  only  was  required.  It  is  true  there  is  i  parchment,  but,"  he  says,  '•  tiu?  wiro  marks  of  the 
much  regularity  in  the  writing,  but  not  more  than  '  linen  fabric  that  forms  its  ba^is  are  plainly  to  be 
may  be  observed  in  many  other  ancient  records.  ,  si'en  on  a  close  examination."  It  seems  to  me 
It  is  not  so  much  marked  in  this  respect  as  many  j  quite  clear,  upon  a  "  cla^e  examination  "  of  the 
of  our  Saxon  charters;  but  apart  from  this,  and  material,  that  it  i?»  none  oth<'r  tiiiin  parchment  or 
the  question  of  contractions,  to  come  to  the  tests  vellum.  The  apparent  wire  marks  noticed  by 
which  Mr.  Smith  has  himself  suggested,  they  do  '  Mr.  Smitli,  and  whicli  fornnjd  the  foundation  of 
not,  in  my  opinion,  bear  out  his  theory.  j  his  too  hasty  belief  tliat  lie  had  found  a  "  material 

Mr.  Smith  very  much  relies  upon  what  he  ■  hitlieno  unknown,*'  are,  in  my  opinion,  nothing 
considers  the  deep  itiiprvmous  of  the  letters,  and  ,  more  than  the  marks  on  sheets  of  **laid  '*  paper^ 
the  absence  of  transparency.  With  respect  to  the  j  between  which  the  vellum  has  been  pressed  when 
last  I  may  observe,  that  the  vellum  is  very  thick,  much  damped  for  the  ptirpo.^e  of  bemg  tlattened, 
and  although  1  have  no  doubt  whatever  that  what  and  in  this  conclusion  I  am  supported  by  the 
he  considei*s  the  impression  of  the  dies  arises  from  ^  llecord  authorities. 

the  vellum  havinpr  been  eaten  awav  bv  the  corro-  '  Some  of  these  documents  mav  be  found  in  a 
sivo  character  of  the  ink  usvd  when  subjected  to  bundh*  described  as  **  Writs  for  Returns,*'  espe- 
damp,  the  indentations  are  not  sulllciently  deep  ;  eially  numbers  12.  17,  and  10;  and,  considering 
to  produce  transparency.  Moreover  they  are  not  t!ie  high  charac'ter  of  Mr.  Smith,  and  the  great 
so  deep  as  ^Ir.  Smith's  words  would  lead  one  to  interest  of  his  dis<'overies  (if  well  founded),  I 
conclude;  at  least  his  sense  of  touch  must  have  1  should  be  very  glad  if  Sx)me  other  gentleman 
been  much  keener  than  mine  if  it  enabled  him  to  i  would  inspect  tin?  doeuments,  and  favour  **N.&Q.*' 
discern  the  forms  of  the  letters  by  the  linger  I  with  his  opinion.  JoJix  Maclean. 

blindfold.    The  indentations  are,  however,  very  .      lluminersiniili. 
•well   defined,  arid  the   edges  partiruhirh/  sharp^  | 

far  more  sharp  than  they  would  have  Wen  ha«l  ■  C.'IIAUCFJi  lIKSTOUKn.— Xo.  I. 

they  been  the  result  of  pressure.  It  seems  evi-  j  x  once  commenced  a  ])aper  under  the  somewhat 
dent  that  the  substance  of  the  vellum  has  been  '  ambiti«)us  title  of  **  Chaucer  Restored.*'  In  now 
removed;  for  the  back  of  the  document  is  quite  ;  ree.Htiug  it, .  I  mny  stat.'  that  my  object  is  to 
smooth,  and  shows  no  indication  of  pressure  i  qii.»sti-m  the  validity  of  certain  arguments  for 
having  been  applied  to  the  other  side.  As  to  ,»x,.ludinir  from  the  collection  known  as  Cliaucer's 
the  characters,  the  same  letters  in  many  instances  ,  }y„rh'A  som^x  half-d-v.en  or  s.>  of  minor  p4iems,  for 
vary  considerably  in  form.  Some  of  the  as,  for  j  which  no  MS.  authoritv  has  been  fouml,  ascrib- 
example,   have   the  connecting,  or  cross  stroke,  \  jncr  them  to  Chaucer. 

sloped  upwards;  in  some  it  is  quite  horizontal,         (iower.  in  his   Confes^to  Amaati.<j  writes  thus 
and  in  others  it  slopes  downwai-ds,  whilst  in  other  i  of  Chaucer :  — 
instances  the  letter  is  altogether  of  a  diilorent  ;  »•  In  tluHlowpr  t.f  hi*:  vonth 

form.     Ajain,  a  line  is  ruled  on  the  margin  as  a  in  sundry  wise,  as  ho  well  'r>.ut,'i>\ 

guide  to  the  scribe  to  keep  the  J'dges  straight.  '  Of  ditties  and  of  soniji^^  ^'huie. 

and  this  lino  is  perforated  with  little  holes  at  The  whieh  he  tor  niy  sake  made, 

equal  distances   to  enable  him  to  maintain   the  _  Ko;\:"^^^ 

same  distance  between  the  hnes  of  writmg,  pre-  j^^^^^,  ^11  other,  I  am  most  [be]hold[enl." 

cisely  as  is  now  done  in  every  law  stationer's  .  ^  ^    ^  .^^  ^^    mouthof  Venus, 

olhce.     It  18  true  the  initial  letters  are  not  com-        i      r-  ♦!    -  ««ii.  hi,n„o«- 
pleteti,  but  1  cannot  conceive  that  tUU  circum-     "l'"'  further  cnll.  Chaucer  - 
stance  is  anv   evidence    tliat  the   document    is  i  «  My  discptc  and  my  poet, 

printed.    It  was  usual  to  finish  the  ornamental  '  Nothing  can  exceed  the  friendship  and  ingenu- 


4»h  S.  IX,  Jan.  13, '??.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


3a 


ouaness  of  this  valuable  tribute  from  a  contem- 
porary. 

Tlie  two  points  of  interest  are,  tbat  Chaucer 
wrote  in  "the  flower  of  his  youth/*  e.  «.  when 
Tery  young;  and  that  there  •were  many- songs  of 
love — "  for  my  sake,"  Venus  loq. 

Now,  Mr.  Fumivall  (see  AthctKcum^  No.  2270, 
July  1)  identifies  nothing  of  much  importahce  as 
certainly  Chaucer's  before  the  "D»*ath  of  Blanche," 
liJ69,  when  he  would  be  about  thirty  years  of  age. 
I  say  "nothing  of  much  importance,"  because  the 
"  A.  B.  C,"  and  the  "  Complaint  to  Tity,"  are 
Terv  poor  results  for  "  the  flower  of  liis  youth." 

We  have,  therefore,  to  face  the  following 
difficulties :  — 

1.  Would  Gower  call  a  man  of  thirty  still  in 
the  "  flower  of  his  youth  "  ? 

2.  How  could  Gower  call  the  land  "  full-filled," 
with  such  a  paucity  ? 

3.  How  can  these  three  pieces  be  ascribed  to 
Venus  "for  my  sake,"  when  her  name  does  not 
appear  in  either  one  of  them  ? 

I  pause  here  to  note  that  it  is  quite  clear  to  my 
mind  that  the  Cauterhunj  Tales  were  not  known, 
as  a  whole,  when  Gower  wrote. 

What  are  the  pieces  in  which  Venus's  name 
does  appear  ? 

After  the  "  Romance  of  the  Rose,"  that  part- 
translation  ascribed  to  Chaucer,  and  the  "  Testa- 
ment  of  Love,"  which  may  be  called  a  pseudo- 
autobiography  of  Chaucer,  we  have  — 

1.  *'The  Court  of  Love.'* 

2.  "  The  Complaint  of  the  Black  Krught." 
Then  follow  — 

"  Chaucer's  Dream,"  an  allegory  of  the  God  of 
Love;  '*The  Cuckoo  and  the  Nightingale,"  also 
called  "The  Book  of  Cupid,  God  of  Love.'" 

These  four  pieces  are  especially  erotic ;  and  the 
writer,  be  he  whom  he  may,  is  just  the  poet  whom 
Venus  may  truly  call  — 

"  My  owng  clerke." 

The  "  Flower  and  the  Leaf"  completes  the  list 
of  important  compositions  which  3Ir.  Furnivall 
seeks  to  withdraw  from  Chaucer — seven  in  all. 

Tyrwhitt  accepted  all  the  above. 

I  shall  not  pause  to  discuss  the  "  Testament  of 
Love,"  obviously  composed  on  a  hint  from  Gower : 

"  That  be  upon  his  latter  age. 
To  set  an  end  of  all  his  work, 

•  •  •  •  • 

Do  make  his  Testament  ofLoce.'^ 

The  "Romance  of  the  Rose,"  also,  I  will  pass 
for  the  present  Who  wrote  the  remaining  five 
poems,  if  Chaucer  did  not  ?  Mr.  Fumivall  thinks 
the  ^  Flower  and  the  Leaf "  is  in  a  style  later 
than  Chaacer4B  era ;  the  remaining  four  we  may 
asame  to  be  admittedly  contemporaneous.  Who 
ma  this  unknown  writer^  who  could  ape  Chaucer's 


The  rhyme-test,  I  contend,  should  not  be  final, 
for  there  are  obvious  reasons  to  disregard  it  in 
assumed  early  productions ;  and  I  will  endeavour 
to  show  that  these  iive  pieces  are  linked  together 
with  Chaucer's  undoubted  writings,  in  a  manner 
tbat  cannot  possibly  be  accidental.         A.  Hall. 

(To  be  continued.) 


THE   DURHAM    MS.  OF   EARLK'S   "MICROCOS- 

MOGRAPIIIE."* 

• 

44.  A    Confemplatuie  Man.     MS.  4fi.     For   "  Braine 
traueW  reail  '^'Braines  traucU";  for  "  Man,"  "Men"; 

for   "him this,"  "them  trulyer  jit  his";  f(»r 

"distance  in,"  <fec.,  read  "distance.  In  his  Iiifmnities 
and  poorentsse  he  scometh";  for  "partnker,"  *'  specta- 
toiir  "  ;  for  •*  and  variety.  Ilee,"  "and  he  "  ;  for  "  but,*' 
"  and  *' ;  before  "  excellent,"  insert "  mo>t "  ;  for  "  yawn- 
ing," rend  "young";  for  "  mysterious,"  "  myteriall  " ; 
for  "  Ladder,"  X'c,  "  Ladder  on  them  to  clinfl.Kj  vp  to 
Cod  •' :  omit  "  heere." 

45.  An  Aturney,  MS.  8.  For  "nested,"  read  "nestled"; 
for  "  Paper  set,"  "  Pnper  setts  him  vp  and  thus  he  sitts  in 
his  seate,"  &c. ;  omit  "can"  and  "very";  for  "main- 
tain'd,"  &c.,  read  "  maintained.  In  his  libells  his  stile 
is  very  constant,  for  it  kecp^s  allway^es  the  stile  afore- 
saide,  and  yet  it  seemes  he  is  much  tmublcd  in  it,  for  he 
islllwayes  humbly  complaininfr.  Your  poore  oratour"; 
for  "smatch,"  "snatch."  Before  "contrar3*"  insert 
"quite";  next  line  omit"poore";  for  "He  .  .  .  . 
soundlv,"  "  When  he  hath  rack't  them  first  soundlv  " ; 
for  "and  then,"  "then  he";  for  ** looks,"  "  bookes"; 
omit  "  as  fiercely  "  ;  for  **  wranfilinp/*  "  babling  " ;  for 
"there  is  law,"  "shall  be  law" ;  "  when  the  .  .  .  going 
out,"  not  in  MS. 

46.  A  Scepticke  I'n  RdiyUm.     Not  in  MS. 

47.  A  Fariiail  Man.'  MS.  30.  Omit  "one  that 
is  ";  for  "  in,",."  by  ";  for  "  swayes.  His,"  "  swayes  his  "; 
for  "  you  shall," "one  shall ";  next  line,  for  " and,"  "  he 
considers  " ;  for  **  giddily,"  "  quiddity  ";  for  "  Ijecause 
.  .'.  ,  friends,"  "because*  brought  vp  their,  and  the  best 
Scholler  there,  is  one  of  his  Colle<lge.  The  Puritane  is 
most  guilty  of  this  humour ;  for  he  takes  the  opinion  of 
one  Dutch  Commentatour  before  a  Legion  of  Fathers ; 
and  which  is  worse,  his  owne  before  them  l)oth ;"  for 
"indifferent  in"  &c.,  "indifferent.  In  nothing  but 
Conscience  men  esteeme  him,  for  this  he  is  a  zealous  af* 
fectionate,  but  they  might  mistake  him  many  times,  for 
he  doeth  but  to  be  esteemed  so  of  all  men.  He  is,"  &c.; 
for  "  cosen'd,"  "  cooscned." 

48.  A  Trumpeter.  MS.  34.  ATrumpetter.  For  ."not 
....  insolence,"  read  "  none  of  the  worth5^e8t "  ;  for 
"and  (which  ....  dearer,"  "  and  which  is  worse  he 
difi'ers  from  a  fidler  only  in  this,  his  impudencie  is 
dearer  ";  for."  Drinke,"  "liquor  " ;  for  "  Storme,"  "  sea"; 
for  "  noyse,"  "  nose  "  ;  for  "  as  euer,"  "  howsoeuer  "  ;  for 
"  wheresoeuer,"  "  wheresoerc"  ;  fqr  "  alwaics,"  "ordina- 
rily"; for  "Xo  man  ....  himaelfe,"  "In  short 
he* is";  after  "bubble,"  insert  "and  his  life  a  blast"; 
for  "Bankrupt,"  "Bankrout." 

40.  A  Vulgar  Spirited  Man.    Not  la  MS. 

50.  A  Herald.  MS.  40.  An  Herauld.  "  He  giucs 
armes  himselfe  though  he  be  no  Gentleman,  and  therefor 
hath  good  reason  to  dispence  with  others.  His  trade  and 
profession  is  honour,  and  doth  that  which  few  noble  can 
doe,  thriac  by  the  Title.  You  would  thinke  he  had  the 
Inddan  mmes^  for  he  tdls  of  the  fessc  of  gold  and  silner, 

•  Concluded  from  4'»»  S.vlii.-608. 


34 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


L4*»*  S.  IX.  Jak.  is,  72. 


but  bclif-'ue  him  not,  for  they  are  but  deuiscs  tQ  get 
money.  He  seeuics  only  to  deale  with  Gentry,  but  his 
chiefest  jiurchases  are  on  them  that  are  none,  whose 
bounty  lie  conceales,  yet  bhtzuns.  Ilis  bribes  are  like 
those  of  a  corrupt  iudi^e,  for  they  are  the  prizes  of  blood, 
liis  traHifiues  are  like  children's  gewpaweis  pendants, 
and  tSCutohioDS  and  little  dap:gars,  and  his  poniii worths 
are  extraor  Unary  <lcarc.  ffur  ho  hohls  three  13oares  hea<ls 
higher  then  three  Brawnos  in  the  market.  He  was  some- 
time th'i  coate  of  Mars,  but  is  now  for  more  m<»rciful 
bittaiK's  ill  the  tilt  ynrd,  when;  whosoeuer  is  virtorious 
the1«]i<»ylc'.s  are  his.  He  is  an  art  in  England,  but  natiiie 
ill  Walo",  where  they  are  homo  with  Herauldry  in  their 
mouthc.5,  and  each  name  is  a  p'.'digree. 

i)l.  ./  rioddinq  Stiuitnt.  MS.  U.  For  "mettle,"  read 
"mettall";  for  "His  ....  Midnight,"  "  His  Study 
ccm^sts  nmch' in  the  sitting  up  while  Midnight";  omit 
"sjome";  fur  "till,"  rwid  "that":  f«)r  "industry,"  "en- 
deavour"; after  "ability,''  insert  "at  length":  for 
"politer."'  read  "wittier";  for  "accounts,"'  "holds"; 
for  "isasiust  as,"  "no  more  then"'.;  for  "  discomforter 
of,"  "discomfort  to'';  for  "  trauell,"  "bowers";  for 
"Apothegms,"  "Apophthegmes"  ;  for  "  will  go,"  "will 
stalke  goi'";  omit  "whole";  for  "sets  forth,*'  "setts 
out "  ;  for  "  Saturday  .*<hall,"  "  Sattvdav  mav." 

02.  PiiuFi  Walke.  iMS.  43.  yi  PauU's^  Walk.  For 
"  perfeet'.-!t,"  rea<l  "  properest"  ;  ft)r  "  vast,"  "strange"; 
for  " 'I'hc  uoyse,"  "Their  noysc";  for"orbuzze  mixt,"' 
•*and  buz";*  for  "here"  "their";  after  "afoot,"  fnsert 
"  It  hath  its  tempests  like  the  Sea,  and  as  violent,  and 
men  are  .sliipwrack't  vpon  pillars  like  grc.it  rocks":"  for 
"  need,"  r-.'ail  "  mav";  omit  "  covn'd  and  "  ;  after  "Tem- 
ple," oniil:  "in  it";  for  "the  Croud,'*  r.-;ul  "a  Croud";  j 
after  «  Oathes,"  omit  "  left  ";  for  "  vtch,*'  read  "  h«  ate  ' ; 
last  line,  "  after  "  walke,"  insert  "  tWir  ";  add  "finally, 
it  is  vsed  fjr  a  church  of  these  two  only,  .sharkes  and  cut- 
purses,  the  one  comes  thither  to  fast,  the  other  to  jn-ey." 

f).'}.    A   Vniuf.rsitk-  Dtnmt'.    MS.  42.    A  Dun.      Omit 

"ha's";  omit  "contracted  ....  drjnke";  for  "  t< 

Suite,"  read  "  too  little  to  bee  put  in  a  bond  " :  for  "  Hee 
.  .  vpbrayder,"  read  "  He  is  a  tierce  besieger  of  Chambers, 
and  assaults  them  with  furious  knocks  sometimes,  but 
llnds  strong  resistance  commonly,  and  is  kept  out.  He 
is  the  best  witnesse  of  a  Sch()ller"s  loyterinj:.  for  he  is 
sure  neu»'r  to  linde  him  within  :  some  choose  their  eham- 
ber  on  purpose  to  auoyde  his  surprisall,  and  tbinkos  tlie 
best  comm-idity  in  them  is  his  prospt-ct";  lor  "  brayne," 
"witts"*;  "Some  choose  ....  prospect "  transferred  ut 
5M/jr«;  fi.r  *^reiected  acquaintance,  hunt-*."  read  "fur- 
loriie  siiitor,  haunting,  haunting"  {nic)  \  f«)r  "  The  .sole," 
♦•There  is  no";  for  "  is,"  "  in  but "  ;  omit  "grit  uou.s  ": 
fur  "  hee  is  one  much,*'  read  "  no  nian  is." 

61.  ^  siar/ed  Jfon.     Not  in  MS. 

None  of  the  "  Additional  Ciiaracters  "  printed  by  Mr. 
Arbor  are  in  the  MS. 

J.  T.  F. 
Hatfield  Hall,  Durham. 


The  Gates  of  Somn.vutii. — The  comment.^  on 
the  death  of  the  Earl  of  Jillenborough  have  natu- 
rally caused  reference  to  be  made  to  the  gates  of 
Somnauth — the  great  point  of  his  celebrated  pro- 
clamation after  the  Cabul  war.  As,  however,  the 
truth  regarding  these  noted  trophies  does  not 
seem  to  ho  generally  known,  I  send  you  the  fol- 
lowing extract  from  the  Daih/  Nnrs  of  Decem- 
ber 20,  1871,  on  the  subject."  The  writer,  Mr. 
"William  Simpson,  thus  relates  how  lie  became 
acquainted  with  the  gates :  — 


"  In  1860  they  were  in  the  Dewan-i-Awm,  or  Hall  of 
Audience,  in  the  fort  of  Agra.  I  made  a  very  careftal 
sketch  of  them,  including  details  of  the  omvnent.  As  I 
sketched,  it  struck  me  as  strange  that  the  art  contained 
nothing  Hiiuloo  in  its  design.  It  was  all  purely  Mahome- 
dan.  Out  of  the  thirty-two  million  of  Hindoo  gods  there 
was  not  one  of  them  visible.  This  was  so  strange  that  I 
began  making  inquiries  as  to  whether  they  really  wore 
the  veritable  gates  of  Somnath.  The  answer  always 
was  that  there  could  be  no  doubt  of  it,  and  Lord  Ellen- 
borough's  proclamation  was  in  every  case  referred  to. 
To  ail  artist  historical  evidence,  or  even  proclamation  bv 
a  Governor-tieneral,  goi?s  for  little  when  there  is  astyfd 
of  art  oppo.sed  to  them,  so  my  doubts  clung  to  me. 
I >  fore  leaving  India  1  had  the  opportunity  of  patting 
tlie  <iuestion  to  Lord  Canning,  a  man  far  from  indifferent 
to  fjuestions  of  this  sort,  but  even  with  him  Lord  Ellen- 
borough's  proclamation  was  the  infallible  guiile.  It  wis 
only  on  my  return  to  Kngland,  and  in  conversation  with 
Mr.  Fergusson,  that  I  got  confirmation  of  what  I  sos- 
pecteti.  lie  agreed  with  me  that  the  ornament  was  snf- 
ticient  evidence  that  they  could  not  po.ssibly  be  the  gates 
of  Somnath ;  but  he  added — what  I  had  not  the  oppor- 
tunity of  learning  in  India — that  the  gates  in  the  Dewan- 
i-Awm  at  Agra  bad  been  inspected  with  a  microscope, 
and  they  are  of '  Deodar  pine,'  and  not  of  sandal  wood. 
This  fact,  in  spite  of  the  proclamation,  would  command  a 
verdict  against  them  from  any  jur}'. 

"  Puttun  Somnath,  in  Gujerat,  contained  one  of  the 
most  celebrated  temples  of  the  Brahmins.  Mahmoud  of 
(4huznee,  shortly  after  he  came  to  the  throne,  in  a.d.877, 
made  a  raid  into  India  for  the  double  purpase  of  destroy- 
ing idolatry  and  looting  in  that  well-to-«io  country.  The 
wealth  of  Somnath  led  this  Mahomedan  hero  in  that 
direction,  and,  after  a  desperate  resistance,  he  took  the 
place.  Amongst  the  plunder,  he  carried  back  to  Cabool 
the  gates  of  the  tem[>le.  They  were  of  sandal  wood,  and 
of  great  celebrity  from  their  elaborate  ornament.  After 
Malimoud's  death  these  gates  were  put  on  his  tomb,  and 
were  treasured  as  evideuces  of  Mahomedan  conquest. 
Th<>  probability  would  .seem  to  be  that  the  original  gates 
were  destroyed  by  lire,  and  wh«'n  the  tomb  was  repaired, 
a  new  set  of  gatts  were  made  of  Deodar.  These  gates 
are  n(»t  new,  for  they  bear  many  evident  marks  of  age. 
Panels  are  smaslied,  and  much  of  the  oniamcnt  destroyed; 
ruile  repairs  are  done  with  scraps  of  wood  and  iron  ;*aud, 
curious  link  between  East  an<l  West,  there  arc  a  numbcnr 
of  hor.'ne-sh()es  nailed  upon  these  old  portals.  As  they 
were  brought  from  ]Mahmoud*s  tomb  at  Ghuznec  by  our 
conquerini^  army,  they  were  an  evidence  to  the  Hindoo 
population  of  India  that  our  power  had  no  rival  in-the 
lOast.  S<»  far  Lonl  Ellenborough's  proclamation  is  a>r- 
reet  enough  ;  but  now,  as  their  political  signification  has 
ci.'ase<l  to  be,  it  ought  to  b'j  known,  for  historical  and 
archseological  reasons,  t!iat  they  arc  not  the  gates  of 
Somnath." 

PniLTP  S.  King. 

Parliament  Street. 

Doctor  Nash. — Tht^  penurious  disposition  of 
the   historian   of  AVorcestershire  was   no  secret 
among  his  contemporaries.     It  forms  the  point  of 
an  epigram  which  I  have  many  times  heard  my 
father  repeat  in  days  long  gone  by.  I  am  not  sure 
whether  it  may  not  be  too  generally  known  to 
merit  admi&sion  into  "  N.  &  Q.*';  but  if  it  should 
find  a  place,  perhaps  some  correspondent  will  be 
able  to  complete  the  iirst  line,  of  which  one^  word 
has  escaped  me.    I  am  not  sure  whether  it  traa 


4*  S.  IX.  JanV  is,  72.] 


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35 


"genius,"  or  "weakneBs,"  or  somethiDg  equiva- 
lent :  — 

"  The  Mase  thy well  divines. 

And  will  not  ask  for  cash ; 
But  gratis  round  thy  brow  she  twines 
The  laurel,  Dr.  Xash." 

The  following  anecdote,  from  the  same  fertile 
source,  is  probably  less  known.  I  recite  it  as  well 
as  a  very  old  recollection  enables  me:  —  The 
Doctor  was  once  invited  to  Kyre,  a  mansion  in  a 
remote  part  of  Worcestershire.  He  travelled 
thither,  •  I  think,  on  horseback,  as  was  the  more 
usual  custom  of  those  days ;  but  had  some  dii!i- 
culty  in  finding  the  way,  and  was  glad  to  obtain 
the  assistance  of  some  workman  (a  thatcher,  I 
believe),  whom  he  took  from  his  employment. 
When  past  danger  of  losing  the  road,  he  inquired 
of  his  guide  whether  he  was  paid  by  the  piece  (or 
job)  or  by  the  day  j  and  expressed  his  satisfaction 
on  finding  that  it  was  the  former,  as  in  that  case 
his  time  was  his  own.  Having  then  ascertained 
what  he  would  get  by  his  day's  work,  and  calcu- 
lated the  exact  time  which  had  been  lost  by 
leaving  it,  he  remunerated  him  accordingly — more, 
it  seems,  to  his  own  satisfaction  than  that  of  the 
poor  man,  for  he  related  the  story  himself  for  the 
amusement  of  the  company  at  dinner.  One  of 
the  guests,  however,  was  not  only  of  a  different 
opinion,  but  did  not  hesitate  to  express  it.  "  You 
did  wrong,  Dr.  Nash,  very  wrong!'*  "Whyj 
what  do  you  mean  ?  "  "  Because  every  man  de- 
serves to  be  paid  for  his  knowledge."  '"  My  dear 
sir,  what  knowledge  could  that  poor  man  have 
had  to  be  paid  for?"  *'He  knew  the  way  to 
Kyre,  which  you  did  not."  T.  W.  Webb. 

Parslet-bed. — Inouisilive  children  with  us  are 

usually  told  that  babies  are  dug  up  from   the 

"  parsley-bed,"  and  sometimes  it  is  vexatiously 

added  that  the'  boys  are  dug  up  from  beneath  a 

'•gooseberry-bush."    I  had  always  looked  upon 

this  as  a  more  or  less  nursery  fiction,  but  it  must 

be  of  more  general  diffusion  than  our  English 

nurseries,  if  Napoleon  I.  (see  "  N.  &  Q."  4^»»  S. 

viiL  393)  could  sing  by  his  camp-fire  — 

*•  There's  a  maiden  of  fifteen,  Jean, 
.    As  innocent  as  may  be ; 
'MongPt  the  parsley  she  was  seen,  Jean, 
Searching  for  a  baby  I  " 

M.  D. 

Health  E>'QriRii:s. — In  a  notice  in  a  late 

number  of  The  Athenceum  of  the  Literary  Life  of 

the  Itev.  IVm.  Harness,  I  observed  the  following 

passage : — 

**  A  bachelor,  he  lived  witli  a  spinster  sister.  One 
boQsehold  rule  he  gently  and  successfully  enforced,  that 
neither  should  ever  enquire  after  the  other's  health.  Such 
enqairieB,  he  thought,  suggested  ailments  that  otherwise 
would  never  exist/'— ^i/iei*.  Oct.  28, 1871. 

1  greatly  admire  this  household  rule,  and  think 
it  woirthy  of  the  -wisdom  of  Solomon.    In  similar 


circumstances  I  should  certainly  adopt  it,  though 
of  course  it  was  never  meant  to  apply  to  grave 
and  decided  attacks  of  iUness.  It  would  be  a 
wise  regulation  in  the  ordinary  track  of  life,  and 
put  an  end  to  much  empty  formality,  while  it 
eflfectually  checked  nervousness  and  hypochon- 
driacism.  Some  people  like  to  be  asked  after 
their  health,  and  could  hardly  bear  to  be  thought 
well ;  and  to  such  Mr.  Harness's  opinion  is  directly 
applicable,  that  such  inquiries  suggest  ailments 
that  otherwise  would  never  exist. 

A  sensible  person  rather  feels  annoyed  at  these 
daily  enquiries,  and  would  gladly  escape  them. 
Above  all,  be  careful  how  you  ask  an  old  woman 
after  her  health ;  for  she  is  pretty  sure  to  come 
out  with  a  fearful  enumeration  of  real  or  sup- 
posed maladies.  She  has  got  the  rheumatics j  has 
frequent  stoppages,  meaning  spasms,  has  been 
troubled  with  the  diareray  or,  as  one  once  told 
me,  she  has  got  cartruts  in  her  eyes.  Well  I 
remember  only  one  instance  where  I  was  agreeably 
disappointed.     I  ventured  to  enquire  after  one  old 


"Better  to  reign  in  Hell  than  serve 
IN  Heaven"  (Milton,  Varadise  Lost). — In  my 
last  Sunday  reading  I  met  with  the  following 
remark  from  Jeremy  Taylor,  which  concludes  his 
admirable  treatise  on  Obedience,  in  his  Life  of 
Christ :— • 

"  And  to  encourage  this  duty  [obedience]  I  shall  use 
no  other  words  than  those  of  Achdles  in  Homer  :  *  They 
that  obey  in  this  world  are  better  than  they  that  com- 
mand in  hell.' " 

How  far  was  our  immortal  epic  poet  indebted 
to  this  Homeric  speech  for  the  bold  blaspheipy 
with  which  his  "  not  less  than  archangel  ruined  " 
hurls  an  impious  defiance  in  the  face  of  the 
Almighty  ?  .      J.  A.  G. 

Carisbrooke. 

Unrecorded  Saying:  "Like  the  Walsall 
Man's  Goose.*' — One  of  the  popular  dishes  of  the 
Christmas  season — goose — reminds  me  of  a  local 
saying  that  has  not  (l  believe)  yet  been  noted  in 
these  pages.  It  is  this  :  '*  Too  much  for  one  and 
not  enough  for  two,  like  the  Walsall  man's  goose.'* 
The  presumed  foundation  for  this  saying  is,  that 
an  inhabitant  of  Walsall,  Staffordshire,  when 
asked  if  he  and  his  wife  were  going  to  have  a 
goose  for  their  Christmas  dinner,  replied  in  the 
negative,  adding  that  the  goose  was  a  very  foolish 
bird ;  it  was  **  too  much  for  one  and  not  enough 
for  two."  CuTHUKKT  Bede. 


•  u 


The  Great  Exemplary  with  introductory  essay  by  the 
Rev.  H.  Stebbing,  M.  A."     Virtue,  Hall  &  Virtue,  n.  d. 
but  the  essay  is  dated  1835. 


3G 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  S.  IX.  Jaw.  la,  75. 


Longevity. — ^About  the  year  18401  was  staying 
with  a  connection  of  mine,  then  the  incumbent  of 
Little  Saling,  Essex.  When  the  Bishop  of  Lon- 
don (Blomfield)  was  visiting  his  diocese,  my  friend, 
the  Ilev.  llicnard  Mckria  Prvor,  attended  the 
visitation  at  Dunmow,  and  dined  afterwards,  as 
is  very  usual,  with  the  bishop.  On  his  return  he 
told  me  that  the  bishop,  in  his  after-dinner  speech, 
had  mentioned  a  remarkable  fact,  viz.  that  it  was 
"  071  recordf  in  the  diocese  of  London  and  county 
of  Essex,  that  an  incumbent  had  held  his  living 
ninety  years."  If  on  record  thon,  it  is  07i  record 
stilly  and  any  one  of  your  readers  who  may  obtain 
access  to  the  registry  of  the  diocese  will  be  able 
to  verify  the  statement. 

Herbeut  Randolph. 


"THE  LEXINGTON  PAPERS.' 


Folk  Lore:  CnRisx^iAs  Decorations  and 
THE  IJprER  KooM. — In  the  past  Christmas  I  was 
helping  in  some  decorations  for  a  village  church 
in  Ilutland,  and  was  at  work  upon  them  in  a  iirst- 
floor  room  of  a  house.  I  was  told  that  it  was  a 
very  unlucky  thing  to  make  in  an  upper  room 
anvthing  that  was  intended  for  a  church.  My 
informant  was  unable  to  give  any  explanation  of 
this  bit  of  folk-lore,  but  said  that  she  had  heard 
it  since  her  childhood,  and  that  it  was  a  common 
belief  in  Rutland.  Perhaps  this  connection  be-  | 
tween  an  upper  room  and  **bad  luck"  may  be  i 
founded  on  Luke  xxii.  12.         Ccthbkrt  Bede. 

Fazen. — I  heard  a  native  of  Sandwich  lately 

make  use  of  the  expression,  "fazen  eels,"  and  he 

informed  me  it  was  generally  used  in  the  Isle  of 

Thanet  to  signify  the  brown  kind  of  eels.    The 

word  is  pronounced  similarly  to  brazen. 

George  Be  do. 
Faver^ham. 

Bernard  Lens  and  his  Sons.— The   rest  of  i 
the  family  portraits  of  B.  Lens  have  come  to  i 
light.     It  nmy  be  well  to   notice   that  his  son  ! 
Petter  (i.e.  Peter  l*aul  Lens,  pictor,  as  at  the  back 
of  his  portrait,  when  young)  turned  out  a  very 
good  miniature  painter,   his  rtgnature  l)eing  an 
imitation  of  his  father's,  the  long  L  with  two  ;/s  j 
across  it  in  gold.  J.  C.  J. 

Boyhood  of  Charles  Dickens. — Allow  me  to 
call  attention  to  the  fact  that  a  number  of  letters, 
&c.,  on  this  subject  are  now  appearing  in  tlie 
Camden  Town  Oazettey  a  local  paper,  publislied  at  i 
80,  High  Street,  Camden  Town,  about  one  liun-  i 
dred  yards  from  Bayham  Street,  where  the  elder 
Dickens  is  said  to  'have  resided.  Amongst  the 
correspondents  is  the  son  of  one  of  the  masters  of 
the  school  which  young  Dickens  attended. 

R.  B.  P. 

[UnsucMsafal  applications  have  been  already  made 
for  the  papers  containing  these  letters.    The  numhers 
asked  for  were  out  of  prhit.] 


In  1851  Mr.  Murray  published  a  volume  entitled 
The  Lexington  Papers,  being  extracts  from  the 
correspondence  of  Robert  Sutton,  Lord  Lexington 
of  Aram.  The  book  was  edited  by  the  Hon.  H. 
Manners  Sutton,  the  preface  is  dated  Berghapton 
Cottage,  and  the  originals  had  then  been  recently 
found  at  Kelham  (formerly  the  resideoice  of  the 
last  Lord  Lexinjrton),  then  the  property  of  his 
grandson  I^ord  George  Manners  Sutton,  whose 
great-grandson,  John  Henrv  Manneis  Sutton,  M.P. 
for  Newarlv,  held  it  in  1850. 

I  beg  leave  to  ask,  first,  the  editor's  name  :* 
secondly,  to  inquire  if  the  *'  miscellaneous  papers  " 
found  at  the  same  time,  as  mentioned  in  the  pre- 
face, are  still  preserved  ?  If  so,  is  there  any 
mention  of  any  gift  by  Lord  Lexington  to  the 
incorporators  of  the  town  of  Lexington  in  Maasa- 
chusetts,  March  l>0,  1712-1^  I" 

This  question  has  some  interest  to  us  here, 
because  thus  far  it  has  been  impossible  for  us  to 
understand  the  reason  why  this  name  was  adopted. 
There  is  no  village  of  tlie  name  in  England,  Lex- 
ington beingf  the  old  form  of  the  place  now  called 
Laxton  in  Ps  otts.  Very  possibly  the  name  Laxton 
was  in  common  use  before  1700,  as  Lord  Lexing- 
ton seems  to  have  chosen  his  title  as  a  revival 
of  a  barony  formerly  in  his  family.  It  would 
seem  almost  as  clear  a  case  of  the  selection  of  the 
name  of  some  individual  as  the  ordinary  one  of 
choosing  Washington,  Lafayette,  Barr^,or  Adams 
as  sponsor  for  a  new  town. 

\et  I  cannot  find  a  reason  for  the  selection  of 
Lord  Lexington.  He  indeed  was  a  diplomatist 
holding  several  consecutive  appointments,  and 
from  lOOf)  to  KOo  he  was  a  member  of  the  Coun- 
cil of  Trade  and  Plantations.  But  he  lived  in 
retirement  during  the  early  part  of  Queen  Anne's 
reign,  being  restored  to  favour  in  1712,  and  made 
ambassador  extraordinary  to  Madrid.  I  fail  to  see, 
however,  that  in  1712  or  1713  he  occupied  so 
prominent  a  place  in  political  life  that  a  little 
township  in  Massachusetts  should  have  selected 
his  name  for  its  own. 

It  seems  worth  while,  however,  to  ask  if  among 
the  papers  of  Lord  Lexington  anything  has  been 
found  8lu)wing  either  that  ho  was  aware  of  this 
naming,  or  tliat  he  had  any  interest  in  any  way 
in  affairs  in  New  England  at  that  time.  As  all 
of  the  acts  of  our  provincial  legislature  came 
before  the  privy  council,  of  which  Lord  Lexington 
was  a  meniber  ifrom  1(502,  he  may  be  presumed  to 
have  known  of  the  incoti^orating. 

W.  II.  WniTMORB. 
Boston,  U.  S.  A. 


[*  Fee  above.] 


4th  s.  IX.  Jan.  10,  Ti.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


37 


American  Queries. — 1.  It  would  be  interesting 
to  note  the  first  appearance  of  the  long,  thin, 
stTaight-haired  YanKee  of  the  caricaturists.  The 
figure  was  evidently  based  upon  the  old  Puritan 
of  the  Civil  War  tracts,  and  the  first  illustrator 
of  HudibraSj  but  does  not  appear  to  hav^  been 
common  at  the  commencement  of  the  Revolu- 
tionary War.  The  Boston  mobs  of  the  Political 
Register  do  not  differ  from  the  English  mobs  drawn 
by  the  same  hand.  In  the  London  Magazine  of 
1/78  there  is  a  singularly  unfortunate  **  emble- 
matical plate/^  published  according  to  the  fashion 
of  the  times,  after  KeppeVs  engagement  ofi'  Brest. 
Neptune  is  consoling  Britannia  and  deriding 
America.  The  British  fleet  is  riding  triumphant 
in  the  background.  The  revolted  colonies  are 
typified  by  a  man  in  old-fashioned  costume  with 
long  lank  hair,  who  is  waving  the  flag  of  the  thir- 
teen provinces,  and  has  the  Gallic  cock  upon  his 
shoulder.  The  personal  chartvcteristics  of  the  early 
Hevolutionists  iiad  probably  also  something  to  do 
with  the  creation  of  the  popular  American.  In 
the  caricatyires  of  the  Remarks  upon  the  Jacohiniadj 
published  some  years  later,  we  find  — 

**  As  lank  Honesius  with  his  lanthorn  jaw3,*' 

which  was  probably  intended  for  Austin  or  Jef- 
ferson. 

2.  In  the  Monthly  Review  for  March  1764  there 
is  a  very  interesting  letter  from  ^Boston — a  kind  of 
defence  of  Puritani.<m,  in  reply  to  some  remarks 
upon  the  New  England  provinces  which  appeared 
in  an  earlier  number.  1  he  writer  defends  tne  so- 
called  '*  religious  laws  '*  which  he  thinks  "  most 
of  the  sober-thinking  people  of  our  mother  country 
would  be  glad  to  see  revived  among  them."  The 
letter  is  signed  A.  N.     Who  was  the  writer  ? 

3.  Who  was  the  author  of  the  Adventures  of 
Jonathan  Coimcob^  London,  1787?  and  did  any 
sequel  ever  appear.  C.  Elliot  Browite. 

Cheap  BooKCASES.T-Where  can  bookshelves  of 
che^  construction  on  iron  frames  be  obtained  P 
They  have  been  advertised,  but  I  made  no  note  of 
it.  Such  information  may  be  valuable  to  other 
sufferers  from  hiblio-plethora, 

Edward  Riggall. 

Bayswater. 

[Probably  the  makers  of  cheap  and  portable  iron  wine 
bins  would  be  also  the  makers  of  bookcases  on  similar 
construction.  The  manafacturers  advertise  at  many  of 
the  railway  stations,  so  that  our  correspondent  will  find 
no  difficulfv  in  ascertaining  their  addresses.] 

Bows  IS  BoiWETS. — I  am  told  by  a  lady  that 
in  her  youth,  some  thirty  years  ago,  it  was  the 
practice  for  laidies,  according  to  their  state  as  mar- 
ried or  single,  to  wear  the  bows  in  their  bonnets 
on  a  different  side  of  the  face.  She  does  not 
remember  whether  the  married  ladies  wore  theirs 
on  the  light  side,  and  the  unmarried  on  the  left 
Mfliy  or  9109  veiva.    Perhaps  some  of  your  corre- 


spondents could  enlighten  us  as  to  this,  and  tell 

us  when  the  custom  originated  ?  II.  B.  W. 

[  The  bow  on  the  bonnet  was  worn  on  the  right  side  by 
married  ladies,  and  on  the  left  by  those  in  single  blessed- 
ness.] 

Robert  Butts,  D.D.,  Bishop  op  Ely,  1738-48. 
Some  years  ago  I  inserted  a  query  with  a  view  of 
eliciting  information  respecting  this  bishop.  It 
provoked  an  almost  useless  genealogical  discus- 
sion. I  regret  to  say  that  nearly  all  who  entered 
into  it  are  dead ;  and,  unfortunately,  one,  I  believe, 
of  them  was  one  of  the  bishop's  descendants.  Can 
any  correspondent  give  me  information  respecting 
him  ?  I  have  all  I  can  get  from  local  sources, 
Golems  MSS.y  &c.  If  any  one  has  happened  to 
have  read  anything  about  him,  or  knows  aught 
of  him  and  his  descendants,  please  to  let  me 
know.*  Ran  A  k  Paludibus. 

"  Carpathian  Wizard's  Hook"  (Milton,  Cornus, 

V.  673.) — I  should  be  glad  to  have  this  allusion 

explained.  Makrocheib. 

[''The  Carpathian  wizard "  is  Proteus,  the  prophetic 
old  man  of  the  sea,  who  had  a  cave  at  Car  pathos,  between 
Crete  and  Khodes  (Georg.  iv.  387),' and  was  a  wizard* or 
prophet,  and  also  Ncptunc*s  shepherd,  who  as  sach  bore  a 
hook.    See  also  Ovid,  3Iet.  xi.  249.] 

Commercial  Queries. — 1.  Baudki^i,  Can  any 
of  your  readers  tell  me  whence  this  rich  stuff 
obtained  its  name  ?  It  was  composed  of  silk  inter- 
woven with  threads  of  gold,  and  was  introduced 
into  England  in  the  thirteenth  century.  We  read 
of  *'  cloth  of  bawdkyn,"  "  changeable  bawdkyn," 
**gold  bawdkyn,"  "Luks  bawdkyn,"  as  weU  as 
red,  green,  and  blue  bawdkyn. 

2.  Tinsin  Satin. — Is  any  one  able  to  define  the 
difl'erence  between  "tinsin  satin,"  "satin  of 
Bruges,"  and  ordinary  satin  ? 

3.  Changeable  Silk  and  Tafetas.—Was  taffetas 
called  changeable  silk  ?  If  so,  why  ?  Changeable 
silk  is  often  mentioned  during  the  sixteenth  cen- 
tury, and  in  Taylor's  Workes  (a.d.  1630),  ii.  40, 
we  read — 

"  No  taffaty  more  changeable  then  they — 
In  nothing  constant  but  no  debts  to  pay." 

Palsgrave  says  that  sarsenet  and  taffetas  were 
two  names  for  the  same  thin  kind  of  silk.  What 
was  "  domyx  taffa  "  'f 

4.  Take. — What  was  this  material,  of  wbich 
vestments  for  priests  were  occasionally  made  ? 

5.  Branched  Damask. — What  was  the  peculiar 
pattern  or  texture  of  "  branched  "  stuffs  ?  We 
read  of  "  white  damask  branched,"  and  of  *'  white 
cruel  branched  with  tawney  silk." 

6.  Russell  Worsted, — Whence  did  this  black 
stuff  derive  its  name  ?  It  has  been  in  use  for  four 
or  five  centuries.  W.  A.  S.  R. 

[*  To  avoid  reiteration,  the  previous  articles  on  Bishop 
Butts  should  be  first  consulted  :  see  "  N.  &  Q."  2»<>  S.  L 
84 ;  ii.  17,  478 ;  family,  iU.  16,  74,  137 ;  iv.  35,  257 ;  viit 
435:  ix.  61.  149, 186;  x.  106.— Ed,  1 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4th  S.  IX.  Jah.  18,  72. 


CouTTS  Family.  —  I  am  much  oblifrod  by  your 
notice  of  my  inquiry  as  to  the  father  of  Mr.  Coutts 
the  banker,  and  the  time  of  his  decease.  Mr. 
Coutts,  the  banker,  died  in  February,  1822,  aged 
eighty-seven  according  to  some  accounts,  and 
ninetv-one  according  to  another  account ;  and  it 
is  obvious,  therefore,  that  James  Coutts,  M.l*.  for 
Edinburgh,  who  died  in  1778,  could  not  have 
been  his  father.  He  was  in  fact  his  brother.  In 
the  ffent.  Mor/.  for  1822,  p.  195,  the  father's  name 
is  given  as  John  Coutts,  a  merchant  in  Edinburgh, 
but  the  period  of  his  decease  is  not  given. 

There  was  a  Thomas  (Coutts,  a  merchant  in 
London  in  172.*»,  and  who,  1  believe,  was  living 
in  1732.  Can  any  correspondent  of  **N.  &  Q." 
give  me  any  account  of  this  Thomas  Coutts,  and 
sav  when  he  died  ?  T.  1*. 

tlifton. 

[On  farther  research  it  is  clear  we  have  confciindcd 
the  brother  with  the  father  of  Tliomas  Coutts  (see  p  .'i'J2 
of  thela.st  volume).  John  Coutts,  T^ord  Provost  of  Kdiu- 
bur^ih,  1742,  and  the  father  of  Thomas,  the  famed  Lomlon 
banker,  died  at  Nola,  near  Naples,  on  March  'J:*,  17.')n,  at 
the  age  of  fifty-one.  l*erhaps  the  be>t  account  of  the 
Coutts  family  will  be  found  in  tlie  Mevunrs  of  a  Banking 
HounCf  by  the  late  Sir  William  Forl)e.s  of  IMt.^liiro,  IbGO, 
'  fevo,  and  IJourne'a  Engliah  Merchants,  ii.  123-11 7.] 

IIeniii  Deux  Ware. — I  have  in  my  possession 
a  teapot  of  what  I  suppose  to  be  Ilenii  Deux  ware. 
Could  you  tell  me  if  it  is  so,  from  the  following 
description  Y  It  is  of  a  whitey-brown  colour,  dia- 
mond shape,  Grecian  pattern;  dragon  on  lid  (half 
of  which  is  misMng) ;  4^  in.  in  height,'  Ah  in. 
in  length ;  and  it  is  extremely  light  in  weight. 

Could  you  also  tell  me  its  probable  value,  and 
the  best  means  of  disposing  of  it  ?  A.  J.  II. 

[We  have  Fuhmitted  your  query  to  a  friend  who  is 
learned  in  Ceramics,  and  have  recpivcJ  from  him  the 
following  information : — 

"The  Henri  II.  ware  is  so  di:!itinct  in  appearance  from 
all  others  that  it  cannot  be  mi>taken.  Only  lifty  to  sixty 
pieces  are  known  to  exist.  They  are  of  great  value,  the 
authorities  at  Sonth  Kensington  having  piven  as  much 
oa  640/.  for  a  candlestick  at  an  auction.  Their  jud<;nient 
was  criticised  in  pving  so  large  a  ])rice,  but  a  wealthy 
collector  offered  to  relieve  the  public  collection  by  an 
advance  of  more  th;:n   100/.  on  that  cost.     Pieces  are 


"  The  hedgehog— erst  in  prickly  ball — 
Now  stands  of  Kyrle  the  crest ; 
And  thrice  on  shield  of  Abrahall 
The  urchin's  form  *8  impressed !  " 

In  Dr.  Strong's  Heraldry  of  Herefordshire  the 
shields  of  Kyrle  and  Abrahall  are  beautifullj 
blazoned;  but  neither  in  it  nor  in  the  erudite 
Handbook  to  Itoss  is  rendered  any  explanation ,  nor 
is  any  origin  assigned  for  the  heraldic  hedgehog 
named  in  the  preceding  quaint  old  verse.  Can 
you  or  your  readers  inform  me  of  the  authorship 
of  the  above  four  lines?  and  also  the  when,  where^ 
and  why  the  said  symbol  was  first  introduced  in 
the  armorial  bearings  of  the  two  families  ?       P. 

'•  Mary  Anne.'' — Can  any  of  your  readers  in- 
form me  what  a  party  of  Ivepublicans  mean  by 
drinking  to  the  healtli  of  *'  Mary  Anne  *'  ?  This  is 
frequently  referred  to  in  Lothair,        IIeddwch. 


I  PoYXTz  Family. — Where  can  I  find  some  ac- 
;  count  of  the  death  of  the  two  sons  of  Mr.  Poyntz, 
at  one  time  M.P.  for  Midhurst,  and  married  to 
the  heiress  of  Cowdrey  ?  They  were  drowned  by 
tlie  capsizing  of  a  boat,  oflf  Bognor,  about  the  year 
\^V2y  but  I  can  find  no  mention  of  the  accident 
ill  the  Annua  I  lin/istvr,  C.  L.  \V.  C. 

PiiOBER.  —  Can  you  t(^ll  me  when  a  London 
clock  maker  of  the  name  of  Prober  lived  P 

J.  O.  IL 

QroTATioN  WANTED.  —  Who  is  the  author  of 
the  lino — 

•*  Parent  of  sweetest  sound?,  now  mute  for  ever  "  ? 

la  the  original  allusion  to  the  codfish^  or  whose 
is  the  humorous  application  ?  H.  F.  S. 

C'apture  of  Kichard  I.  —  Can  any  of  your 
correspondents  inform  me  if  there  be  any  detailed 
narrative  of  the  departure  of  Richard  I.  from  the 
H«»ly  Land,  and  of  his  rapture  by  the  Archduke 
of  Austria  i'  All  the  histurians  of  the  time  that 
I  have  read  are  very  brief  on  this  subject. 

T.  W.  R. 

X«>ttin;^ham. 

1 1  o  V  A  L  Heads  ox  13  l:  r.L<; . — Will  some  readers 
of  "  X.  &  Q.-'  who  have  a  taste  for  such  matters 


cenerallv  ornamente<l  in  the  Ilenaissanoe  stvle  of  decora-  ,1       4.  !•      41,     i       1      i?  i^  i_  n    •     ^1.   . 

tion.    fhcv  have  chieilv  come  from  the  neighbourhood  '  ^liii"t /or  the  heads  ot  royalty  on  any  bells  m  their 

locality  or  t'lsewhere,  if  they  have  an  opportunity  ? 


of  Touraine  in  France,  where  the  ware  was  raaile  from 
l.')-JO  to  lijofK  Mddorn  copies  arc  made,  always  dis- 
tinguishable as  reproductions. 

"The  teapot  wouM  appear  to  he  early  Stafl'urd.-hirt-, 
very  likely  to  have  been  made  by  L'alph  NV'ovel  <»f  Durs- 
lem,  as  we  have  sewn  specimens  of  his  make  with  whi.'h 
this  account  seems  to  correspond.  Xo  one  could  ^ivo 
an  e>»timate  of  the  value  without  scfinjr  it.    The  damage 


1  may  say,  there  are  none  such  ancients  in  Somer- 
>«M,  Cornwall,  or  Devon,  excepting  one  at  St. 
James's,  Devonport,  which  was  brought  from  a 
de^if roved  churcli  in  Worcester.    . 

I  think  only  three  types  of  heads  are  known  to 
cam])anists ;  tliosc  are  supposed  to  be  of  Edward  I. 


that  you  mention  would  be  a  great  detraction  even  if  1  and  Kleanor, Edward  II Land  Philippa,  Henry  VI. 
repaired.  J  j^jjj  ^largaret,  and  the  young  Prince  Edward. 

Heraldic  IlEDGEnoo.—In  a  recent  number  of       ^    ,       /„    .  «.  />.  ix      ^^*  ^'  ^^^^^^^^^" 

the  Hoss  Gazette  was  an  interesting  letter  about  '      ^^''*''^'»  ^^^'^  ^''  ^'""'^'^  ^"^""• 
the  monuments,   &q.   in  its  famous  church,  in        Arms   of    Prince    Rupert.  —  Can  any^  one 
which  appeared  the  following  quotation : —  ac^iuainted  with  foreign  heraldry  say  if   it  is 


4*  8.  IX.  Jam.  13.72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Ijkel;  thnt  P.  IlevliD  should  have  made  a  mistake 
about  tbe  urtis  o'S  Prince  Uupert  Y 

He  gives  thein  as  quHrterly,  the  lat  and  4lh  a 
lion  ramp,  or,  crowned  eulcs;  2iid  and  3rd,  paly 
bendy,  nr.  and  ai.,  and  all  usual  books  follow  tbit) 
dcgcription.  But  on  a  very  elaborately  and  beau- 
tifully carved  boswood  tobacco-box  top,  under- 
neath a  Tery  iiufiy  executed  royal  arms,  with 
C.  R.  at  the'  top,  i:^  a  coat  lookuig:  like  Prince 
Kupert'a;  but  not  as  Ileylin  has  put  it.  2nd  and 
iird  being  a  bend  enfrraikd. 

The  connection  with  Charles  I.,  and  there  bein^- 
no  English  coat,  a^  far  aa  I  know,  like  it,  make 
me  have  little  doubt  that  the  arms  on  tlie  boi: 
are  I'rioce  Eupirt's.  though  varying  from  Ilejlin'a 
description.  He  was  by  no  lueiuis  always  cor- 
rect. Is  there  anv  seal  or  contemporary  I'lnhln- 
7onment  of  Prince"  lluperfs  amis  in  tlie  British 
Museum  or  othor  public  place  Y  J.  C.  J. 

fjEORfiT;  -Sasiiv*. —  Having  just  completed  n 
new  udiiion  cf  (.icorge  l^andys's  Piieinn  for  Mr. 
Rusisell  Smith,  I  should  be  much  obliged  if  any 
of  your  coiTCspoiidenIs  could  give  me  any  hitberti> 
unedited  nolitiii  relative  to  so  good  an'd  great  a 
man.  Communications  may  be  sent  to  ^Ir.  J,  I>. 
Smith,  30,  Soho  Square,  ot  published  in  "  N'.  &  Q." 
Rich -IB  D  Uoopef, 
Three  Leaves  eate^  for  the  Holy  S.ii'ba- 
MEST. — In  reading  Mr,  I.udlow'a  ropiif/ir  Lptcf 
of  the  Mifldle  Aijts,  1  made  a  note   uf  the  ful- 

-  TLree  l«ivfs  he  tskes  from  the  i-r.iss  bftween  hid 
luA,  and  receives  them  in  pLii'e  uf  the  budy  of  (iu<l.'' 

This  occurs  in  Oaria  the  Lnrrainer  fp.  Si)"!,  an 
epic  of  the  twelfth  century ;  and  in  Raoui  of  Cniii- 
troy,  which  was  probably  written  about  the  same 
period,  at  p.  135, 1  read  that — 

"  Many  a  gvnlle  kni;:;ht  t:ik»s  the  sacrament  «itb 
Ibrte  bits  of  fira-s,  for  other  priest  is  none." 

Is  anything  known  concerning  Ihis  piece  ot 
mediaeval  superstition .'  II.  Fisiiwicx. 

Sir  Top*s.  —  The  nicltname  of  "Sir  Topaa" 

applied  to  Sir  Charlpa  Dilke  by  tbe  Aniii/  nml 

Siiy  Gazette  of  Nov.  25  last  is  said  to  be  drawn 

frwn  Drjden's  works.    Prom  wbicli  of  tbem  Y 

0.  T.  M. 

[The  kniHliterrant  nf  Ihp  "  liitne  uf  KirTho[MiB,"  one  of 
Chueer's  CaiiUrburi/  T,ilca,  a  ijius  allucK-d  to  in  one  of 


■■  Bat]  I 


e  (ioQiles,' 
ei.ly.- 


u  I.-"] 


flr'iTTON  Casti.E.— Can  any  one  enlighte 
"feeling  the  history  of  a  ruined  castle  situaled 
JJishill  near  this  place,  and  called  here  Watton 
pWle?  There  sppeara  to  be  a  variety  of  opinions 
ni  the  neighbourhood  respecting  its  antiquity,  but 
I Q  mwUe  to  get  any  trustworthy  history.  Any 
,  Uiwtioo  will  eieatlv  oblise,  W.  AI. 


VitpXicS. 
GAISSBOROUGII  AS  A  M(JSICI.\S. 

(4"'  S.  Tiii.  450,  55ij.) 
This  great  painter  was  not  only  an  enthusiastic 
lover  of  music,  but  arespectable  performer  on  the  ■ 
harpsichord.  I  have  frequently  heard  my  father 
speak  of  his  performance  on  this  instrument  in  terms 
«f  great  praise.  Stephen  Francis  Rimbaull,  to 
whom  I  allude,  was  born  in  1768  and  died  in  1837. 
He  was  intended  for  an  Hrtiat,  and  learnt  the  rudi- 
ments of  the  profession  under  Philip  Reinagle, 
the  landscape  painter.  After  a  few  years  of  study 
be  abandoned  the  Umner'a  art  and  turned  bis  at- 
tenlinu  to  music,  a  profeBsion  wLich  he  followed 
fot'the  rest  of  his  life.  His  love  of  art  threw  hiui 
B  great  deal  amongst  attistfi,  particularly  painters 
in  water-colour,*,  of  whose  works  be  formed  a 
largo  collection,  which  was  disposed  of  after  his 
death  by  Messrs.  Christie  &  Mauson  (Wednesday, 
Dec.  13,  1837,  and  two  following  days.)  I  per- 
fectly well  remember,  when  a  boy,  seeinff  Dayes, 
Howitt,  Westall,  S.  Pether,  Turner,  Rowlandson, 
and  many  other  celebrated  artists  of  the  time,  at 
my  father's  house,  No,  3,  Denmark  Street,  Soho. 
But  to  return  to  die  subject  of  my  notice. 
Gainsborough  knew  a  mtle  of  almost  every  musical 
instrument  (such  as  were  used  for  solo  playing), 
but  his  chief  forte  consisted  in  modulating  upon 
the  harp^cbord.  He  was  too  capricious  to  study 
music  scientifically,  but  his  ear  was  So  good,  and 
bis  natural  taste  so  refined,  that  these  important 
adjuncts  led  him  far  beyond  the  mechanical  skill 
of  the  mere  performer  who  relies  only  upon  tech- 
nical knowledge. 

The  lata-  Henry  Angelo  (the  son  of  the  well- 
known  riding-master)  gives  some  amusing  anec- 
dotes of  Uains borough,  in  connection  with  bis 
love  of  music,  in  his  Remininceticea,  1838,  voU  i. 
p.  184  rf  aeq.  He  quotes  Jackson's  ill-natured 
remarks,  thus  commenting  upon  them : — 

"  This  uprightly  sketch  of  the  mnsiesl  eeeentririties  of 
the  painl«r,  with  all  due  respect  la  the  memory  iif  Mr. 
Jai-k9on.  is  somewhat  of  a  curteature  ;  for  Uainnborougb 
not  only  dill  know  hts  notes,  tnit  cntild  accompany  a  slow 
movement  uf  the  harp^iciiord,  both  on  the  liddle  aud  tho 
llHle,  with  intie  andfttliHs." 

Abel  (who  jointly  with  J.  C.  Bach  founded  tho 
Bacli  and  Abel  concerts)  was  >l  great  lover  of  the 
arts,  lie  laid  an  impost  upon  the  talents  of 
Gainsborough,  and  exchanged  with  him  notes  on 
the  Tiol-di-gnmba  for  drawings.  ^Vngelo  speaks 
of  seeing  the  walls  of  Abel's  apartments  literally 
covered  with  the  genius  of  the  painter.  When 
Abel  died  (June  20,  1788)  this  collection  was  sold 
iit  I.angford's  auction-room  in  the  Piazza,  Covent 
ijiardeu.  These  works  of  Gainsborough  were 
i^hiefiy  drawings  in  chalks.  )Iy  father  was  a  large 
[luichnscr,  but  what  became  of  them  afterwards  I 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4"»  S.  IX.  Jax.  13.  '72. 


And  now  comes  the  (question,  What  was  the 
cause  of  Jackson's  animosity  to  the  great  painter  ? 
Mk.  Sewell  thinks  that  the  expression  in  Gains- 
borough's letter  to  the  Duke  of  Bedford,  that 
Jackson  was  "  no  fiddler,"  was  the  sore  point ;  but 
in  this  he  is  surelv  mistaken.  Gainsborou<?h  as- 
sures  the  duke  that  Jackson  was  no  fiddlei'^  but 
something  much  better — a  man  of  science  and  let- 
ters. "  As  ignorant  as  a  fiddler  "  is  a  proverbial 
saying,  and  to  this  day,  I  am  sorry  to  say,  it 
holds  ^ood.  It  means  that  a  man  who  makes 
inusic  his  sole  study  is  fit  for  little  else.  Gains- 
borough's words  were  intended  to  imply  Jacjfson's 
superioritv  over  many  of  his  follow  musicians, 
ordinary  fiddlers,  and  as  such  I  recognise  in  them 
the  greatest  compliment  he  could  possibly  paj  to 
a  man  in  Jackson's  position.  With  duo  deference 
to  Mr.  Sewell,  this  is,  I  think,  the  right  inter- 
pretation of  the  passage  in  the  letter.  If  so,  we 
must  look  elsewhere  for  the  cause  of  Jackson's 
ill  feeling  towards  the  painter.  If  I  might  bo 
allowed  to  give  my  own  idea,  I  should  point  to 
the  following  passage  in  Angelo's  Itcminisceuces  as 
suggestive : — 

"  Had  Gainsboruugli  outlived  the  witty  musician,  lie 
might,  perhaps,  with  equal  truth  have  given  the  world  a3 
satirical,  not  to  Ray  as  unfriendly,  a  posthumous  descrip- 
tion of  Jackson's  attempts  vrith  the  pallet  and  jMiinting 
hnuhes" 

From  this  it  appears  that  Jackson  was  a  painter ! 
Now  may  not  Gainsborough  have  been  free  in  his 
remarks  upon  the  amateur  artistj  and  so  have 
caused  the  bitter  feeling  in  return  ':' 

Edward  F.  Eijiuault. 


AN  AMEIilCAX  CEXTEXAKIAX. 

(4^  S.  viii.  i?81.) 

^  I  have  to  explain  that  my  statement  iii.  was 
simply  a  correction  of  my  own  clerical  error  in 
No.  II.  I  have  omitted  the  initial  A.,  which  occurs 
after  the  n&mc  JSdivmd.  I  wrote  at  the  time  to  the 
town  clerk,  and  received  the  following  reply: — 

"  Marblehcad,  April  -1th,  18(W. 
"Dear  Sir,— The  birth  registered  Aur.   1,  \7'2H,  is 
Edward  A.   llolyokc.     it  is  very  seldom   I    lind    the 
middle  name  in  full,   althoufi^h  somctimeR  it  is  entered. 
But  in  this  case  nothing  but  Kdward  A.  Ifolyoke. 

"(Ilovkr  BuoL'cuTiJN,  Towu  Clerk." 

There  can  be  no  doubt  that  the  child  whose 
birth  was  recorded  in  1728  was  named  Edward 
Augustus.  I  think  I  may  add  there  is  equally 
no  doubt  that  he  lived  more  than  a  hundred  years. 

The  Memoir  of  Dr.  Holyohe which  I  havecited 
is  full  of  details  of  his  life,  and  your  readers  may 
be  assured  that  the  case  is  not  one  of  vague  tradi- 
tion, but  one  which  was  thoroughly  examined 
during  the  lifetime  of  its  subject.  The  little 
volume  of  eighty  pages  might  well  be  reprinted  to 
furnish  arguments  a^inst  those  who  deny  the 
possibility  of  centenananism. 


I  have  said  that  Dr.  Holyoke  was  the  son  of 
Rev.  Edward  (iv.)  II.,  who  was  President  of 
Harvard  College.  The  latter  was  son  of  rllizor 
(III.)  II.,  and  grandson  of  Elizur  (ii.)  Holyoke, 
one  of  tjae  early  colonists  here.  This  Elisur  (il), 
senr.,  was  undoubtedly  bom  in  England,  and 
settled  here  with  his  father,  Edward  (i.)  Holyoke, 
about  1C3G.  Edward  and  Prudence,  his  wife, 
were  from  Tarn  worth,  co.  Stafford,  as  appears  by 
the  Qalem  records  at  the  date  of  the  marriage  of 
their  daughter  in  1G43.  Elizur  (ni.)  Holyoke, 
jun.,  died  at  Boston  in  1711,  and  used  onhiswiUa 
seal  of  arms,  viz.  a  ch6vron  cotised  between  three 
crescents:  crest,  a  crescent.  Prudence,  the  wife 
of  Edward  (i.),  is  said  to  have  been  the  daughter 
of  Kev.  John  Stockton  of  Kinholt,  and  their 
marriage  is  recorded  June  IS,  1012.  Can  any  of 
your  correspondents  trace  the  pedigree  of  the 
family  further  P 

nox.  TiMoxnT  fasrir. 

I  now  proceed  to  my  second  case  of  cente- 
narianism.  Hon.  Timothy  Farrar,  bom  at  Lin- 
coln, Mass.,  Juue  28,  1747,  died  at  HoUis,  N.  H., 
Feb.  21,  1840,  aged  101  years,  7  months,  and  12 
days.  Such  is  the  statement  made,  which  I  will 
proceed  to  verify  as  far  as  possible.  I  must  pre- 
mise that  Mr.  Farrar  was  not  in  an  obscure 
position.  Ho  was  a  judge  in  the  courts  of  New 
Ilampshire  from  1776  to  1810,  and  justice  of  the 
Superior  Court  there  from  l7i)l.  There  is  no 
question  that  he  believed  himself  to  be  a  cente- 
narian, since  he  was  present  at  the  delivery  of  a 
discourse  on  the  Sunday  *follo wing  his  centeniual 
anniversary,  a  copy  of  which  is  sent  herewith  to 
the  Editor  of  "  N.  &  Q."    It  is  entitled— 

"  A  Discourse  occasioned  by  the  Centonnial  AnniveTMny 
of  Hon.  Tiinuthv  Kirrar,  LL.1).  Delivered  at  IIoUm, 
N.   H.,  July   lUh,   1817,    by    Timothy  Farrar    Clmry. 

Printe^l  by  request.    Amlovcr,  1847." 

So  much  for  the  belief  of  Mr.  Farrar  and  his 
nearest  friends.  As  to  the  date  of  his  birth  :  he 
was  the  son  of  Samuel  and  Lydia  (Qprrett^  Fanar 
of  Concord,  Mass.  (I  may  here  mention  that 
Lincoln  is  part  of  the  old  town  of  Conceit,  incor- 
])orated  as  a  distinct  town  in  1754.)  Their  chUdren 
were — Lydia,  bom  Sept.  2,  1735,  married  Wil- 
liam Bond ;  Samuel,  Dorn  Feb.  14,  1737 ;  Ste- 
phen, bnrn  Sept.  8,  1738 ;  James,  bom  July  24, 
1741 ;  I'ebecca,  born  Aug.  13, 1743,  married  Dr. 
John  Preston ;  liUcy,  bom  April  27, 1745,  mar- 
ried Humphrey  Farrar;  Timothy^  bom  June  28, 
1747;  Mary,  .born  July  5,  1754,  died  Sept  2, 
1750.  Of  these  eight  children,  all  but  the  last  are 
recorded  at  Concord,  and  I  have  before  me  a  copy 
of  the  record  signed  bv.  George  Ileywood,  town 
clerk,  dated  (3ct.  24,  ISVl.  The  last  child,  Mary, 
I  enter  on  the  authority  of  the  town  clerk  of 
Lincoln,  Henry  0.  Chapin,  who  says  that  this. is 
the  only  child  of  Samuel  and  Lydia  Farrar  on  the 
records  of  that- town.    I  have  explained  that  this 


4*^  8.  IX.  J  AST.  13,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


14 


is  a  continuatioii  of  the  Concord  records  for  such 
inhabitants  as  lived  in  the  part  thus  set  oft*  for  a 
new  town. 

Lastly,  and  before  proceeding  to  the  other  cases, 
I  wish  to  call  special  attention  to  the  evidence 
famished  by  the  record  at  Harvard  College.    In 
this  college  the  class  is  the  unit.    All  students, 
as  a  rule,  are  admitted  at  one  examination  in  each 
year,  and  are  known  collectively  as  the  class  of 
the  year  four  years  later,  wh&n  they  are  graduated. 
To  cite  an  instance  of  a  familiar  name,  Charles 
Francis  Adams  was  of   the  class   of  1825,  the 
year  of  his  graduating.     In  each  class  the  mem- 
bers are  acquainted,    and   throughout    life    the 
friendships  are  firmly  maintained.     Every  year, 
at  the  annual  festival  of  the  college,  the  members 
meet  together,  march   in  procession  under  the 
class  banner,  and  in  most  instances  have  reunions 
of  the  survivors. .  For  many  years  annual  and  tri- 
ennial catalogues  have  been  issued,  and  since  1845 
great  attention  has  been  given  to  procuring  the 
vital  statistics  of  each  graduate.    It  will  be  seen 
that  there  can  be  rio  question  as  to  the  identity  of 
any  noted  graduate,  and  it  may  be  added,  no  pro- 
bability of  a  mistake  as  to  age,  where  the  chain  of 
evidence  is  so  continuous.     Each  class  remembers 
in  a  degree,  its  predecessors ;  and  though  the  con- 
temporaries of  Holyoke  and  Farrar  died  before 
them,  there  were  venerable  witnesses  of  succeed- 
inpr  classes  to  form  a  continuous  chain. 

I  submit  therefore  that  their  claims  as  nged, 
very  aged,  and  most  aged  men  were  yearly  care- 
fully examined  by  the  alumni  of  Harvard,  a  most 
suitable  body  for  such  an  investigation.  I  subjoin 
a  letter  on  this  subject  from  the  present  librarian 
of  the  college,  a  gentleman  who  has  every  facility 
for  knowing  the  facts,  and  who  haa  for  years  pre- 
pared the  triennial  catalogues : — 

**  Harvard  University,  Cambridge,  Dec.  8,  1871. 

"  Dear  Sir, — At  your  request  I  have  personally  ex- 
amined the  cotemporary  faculty  records,  and  they  con- 
tirm  my  previous  statements  that  Dr.  Edward  Augustus 
Holyoke  of  Cambridge,  of  the  class  which  graduated  at 
Harvard  College  in  174C,  was  born  August  I.  1728,  and 
was  fourteen  years  old  when  he  entered  college;  that 
Samson  Salter  Blowers  from  Boston,  of  the  clais  of  17()B, 
bom  March  22, 1742,  entered  at  the  age  of  seventeen  and 
a  quarter;  and  that  Dr.  Ezra  Green  from  Maiden,  of  the 
clan  of  1765,  with  whom  I  was  personally  acquainted, 
and  on  whose  hundredth  aQniversarv  the  I^ev.  Samuel 
K.  Lothrop  preached  a  sermon,  which  was  printed,  was 
bom  June  17, 1746. 

"  Id  the  class  of  1767  were  Timothy  Farrar  and  Joseph 
Farrar,  both  from  Lincoln,  the  first  of  whom,  a«oording 
to  the  records,  was  bom  July  11,  1744,  and  entered  at 
the  age  of  nineteen;  the  other,  bom  Julv  8, 17 17.  entered 
at  the  age  of  sixteen  ;  the  dates  of  birth  l)eing  transpo$e<1, 
a  fact  easily  accounted  for  by  the  circumstance  that  in 
tbow  days  a  student  was  never  named  by  his  Christian 
name  or  its  initial,  but  only  bv  his  surname,  "  first "  and 
''McoDd"  being  added  to  it. 

**  The  dates  of  birth  and  the  ages  were  taken  when  the 
atodanit  were  examined  for  admission ;  a  few  months 
after  which,  as  soon  as  the  family  rank  of  the  fathert 


was  determined,  these  were  copied  into  the  permanent 
records,  wherein  the  names  of  the  students  were  entered 
in  the  order  determined  upon. 
"  My  minutes  are  from  these  continuous  records. 

"  Respectfully  votirs, 
•*  John  Lasgdon  Siblky,  librarian." 

This  testimony  seems  to  be  of  the  highest  value 
as  fixing  the  ages  of  the  bojs  at  a  time  when  the 
mistake  of  a  year  is  almost  impossible. 

I  propose  hereafter  to  take  the  cases  of  Blowers 
and  Green.  W.  H.  Whitmobe. 

Boston,  U.S.A. 

THE  LATIX  LANGUAGE,  ETC. 
(4"»  S.  viii.  465.) 

The  New  Testament  referred  to  by  Hermex- 
TRUDE  is  a  Hofhamch  one  (not  "  Romaunt") :  for 
the  language  of  the  Engadine— or,  more  properly 
to  speak,  of  a  part  of  it — is  different  to  what  is 
known  as  the  Ilomaunt  or  Troubadour  tongue. 
The  I^omansch  is  confined  to  the  great  yalley  of 
the  Engadine,  and  to  some  small  lateral  ones.  . 
This  language  may  be  said  to  commence  at  Sa- 
maden,  and  to  terminate  at  Tarasp  Schuls,  near 
the  Austro-Tyrol  frontier.  There  are  two  dialects 
of  the  Romansch :  in  the  High  Engadine  we  have 
the  Romansch,  properly  so  called;  in  the  Low 
Engadine  we  have  the  Ladine  (not  "  Latin "), 
The  Bible  is  printed  in  both  dialects  at  Celerina, 
and  the  Bible  Society  pav  a  portion  of  the  expense. 
The  New  Testament  of  Menni  is,  I  believe,  not 
an  authorised  version,  but  the  private  eftbrt  of  a 
learned  man.  •  The  church,  which  uses  in  its  ser- 
vices the  Romansch  and  Ladine  languages,  is  not 
called  "  the  Swiss  church."  It  is  a  church  per- 
fectly independent  of  any  other  one,  and  waar 
founded  by  Bishop  Vergerio,  the  Italian  reformer. 
It  difi'ers  in  ritual  and  doctrine  from  the  Lutheran 
and  Calvinistic  churches  of  Switzerland.  The 
worship  is  Liturgical.  The  Romansch  Prayer- 
book  is  printed  at  Coire,  and  is  entitled  — 

"  Liturgia  ner  Uratiums  ad  Agendas  pnr  las  bascl- 
giadas  Kumonscbas  Evangelicas  en  TAuIta  KhiLzia." 

The  A'ergerionian  church  extends  into  German 
and  Italian  districts;  and  hence,  though  it  has 


probably  from  compliment  to  Vergerio.  The  only 
spot  beyond  the  Grisons  where  the  Vergerionians 
have  a  congregation  is  Florence,  where  they 
have  a  Romansch  service  in  the  Swiss  church. 

There  are  two  Grisons  newspapers  in  the  pure 
liomansch.  I  would  advise  Hermentrtjde,  if 
she  is  in  search  of  Ladine  or  Itomansch  works,  to 
inquire  of  the  Bible  Society,  or  at  the  Swiss 
church  in  Endell  Street,  London,  or  of  some  foreign 
bookseller.  Probably  I)r.  RiMBArLT,  who  is  a 
gentleman  of  Swiss  descent,  could  give  some  in- 
formation.   But  the  most  likely  way  of  obtainimr 


42 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[4«»  S.  IX.  Jaji.  18, 72. 


such  works  would  be  to  address  the  publishers 
at  Coire,  and  obtain  their  catalogue.  The  appli- 
cation should  be  in  Itomansch  or  German. 

I  will  take  this  occasion  to  remark  that  the 
Romande,  or  ancient  language  of  French  or 
^^ Roinande  Switzerland/'*  has  no  affinity  with 
the  Ilomansch  or  Ladine,  with  which  it  is  often 
confounded. 

A  dictionary  of  Romande  is  published  at  Lau- 
sanne; and  connected  with  Le  Contvnr  raudoiSj  [ 
a  little  periodical  published  weekly  at  Lausanne 
(ten  centimes  a  number),  aye  several  witty  wags,  ■ 
who  contribute  tales,  poems,  and  jokes,  all  written  , 
in  the  choicest  Komande— quite  a  treat  for  the  | 
philologist^  perhaps  a  puzzle  too !  j 

Ja-ues  IIkxuy  Dixon,    i 


May  I  be  permitted  to  correct  a  misprint  in  my 
former  paper  on  this  subject?  The  printer  has 
placod  periods  at '  the  ends  of  the  words  uoftc  and 
trcuUltf  as  if  they  were  abbreviated  j  this  is  not 
the  case.  I  mav  at  'the  same  time  ask  leave  to 
add;  in  order  to  prevent  any  misapprehension,  that 
the  Jiiitish  and  Foreign  Bible  Society  lias  pub- 
lished a  translation  of  the  New  Testament  into  the 
dialect  of  the  Lower  Engadine,  which  is  not  by 
any  means  the  same  thing  with  the  language  of  i 
the  Upper  Engadine,  but  is  a  later  and  more  cnr- 
Tupted  patois.  The  two  may  be  compared  with  ! 
interest,  but  no  one  possessing  the  former  volume 
only  must  suppose  that  he  has  in  it  a  specimen  of 
the  pure  Komaunt.  IlKUMENiRrPE. 

PUBLIC  TEACHERS. 
(4^»>  S.  viii.  410,  550.) 

Mr.  Walter  Thorn »ury,  in  what  is  hardly 
"N.  &  Q."-ish  language,  stigmatises  me  as  "ar- 
rogant '*  and  "  malicious  " ;  but  makes  up  for  it 
by  suggesting  that  I  must  be  either  a  *^  Parsi "  or 
a  ^^  parson  " — characters  which  it  is  one  of  my 
peculiarities  to  regard  as  about  the  most  to  be 
looked  up  to  of  any  in  tlieir  respective  countries. 
lie  is  pleased  to  add,  that  my  remarks  on  his 
criticisms  are  *' totally  irrelevant  to  the  subject"  ; 
and  I  must  indeed  plead  guilty  to  the  same  par- 
ticular kind  of  irrelevance  which  made  Kin;r 
Jamie  exelnim — '*0  ( Jeordie,  Jingling  Ueordio,  ir 
was  grand  io  hear  llaby  Charles  laying  down 
the  guilt  of  dissimulation,  and  Steenie  lecturing 
on  the  turpitude  of  incontinence."  Mu.  Tjioii.N- 
IJURY  is  what  is  called  an  "  agreeable  writer."  and 
these  "  pretty  Fannies  "  of  the  press  may  without 
any  harm  be  permitted  to  have  iht-ir  own  way  to 
a  certain  extent,  and  in  their  own  particular 
channels  J   but    when    they   begin    to   write    to 

*  In  all  leffal  and  Swiss  documents  tlie  term  •<  Fnn'h 
Switzerland"  is  never  used.  It  is  always  "Suisse  Ko- 
mande.'* 


"  N.  &  Q.,'*  giving  as  original  I  Jind»  what  they 
have  discovered  in  a  bookseller^s  catalogue  of  the 
preceding  week  (see  last  vol.  p.  240),  and  then 
proceed  to  brand  a  great  orip^nal  writer  such  as 
3lr.  Carlyle  with  misquotation,  and  a  critic  like 
John  Wilson  Croker  with  puzzleheadedness  and 
blundering,  nothing  surely  can  be  less  "irrele- 
vant'' than  for  somebody  to  step  in  and  point  out 
the  peculiar  qualifications  possessed  by  this  dar- 
ing assailant.  Such  1  believe  to  be  the  extent  of 
my  crime ;  and  if  anything  were  wanted  to  justifr 
it,  it  would  be  supplied  by  Mr.  THORXBrBT** 
singularly  unfortunate  rejoinder.  He  commences 
by  throwing  on  the  printers  the  whole  blame  of  a 
string  of  blunders  which,  from  the  very  nature  of 
nearly  all,  ^nud  have  existed  in  the  MS.  from 
which  thev  worked,  and  the  list  of  which  could 
be  quadrupled  with  the  greatest  ease  from  the 
same  volumes,  and  extended  not  a  little  from* 
other  works  by  the  .«ame  writer ;  and  he  carefully 
abstains  from  mentioning  that  the  volumes  from 
which  I  quoted  were  themselves  a  rvprint  from 
All  the  Year  Ituuml^  and  that  in  this  double  pro- 
cess such  bloated  blunders  as  these  could  only 
have  escaped  by  their  author  not  recognising 
them  to  be  blunders  at  all !  lie  then  winds  up 
by  saying,  "  If  Chitteldroog  can  correct  my  cor- 
rections of  these  two  great  writers,  why  does  he 
not  do  so  ?  "  Ce  it  so.  I  had  made  no  assertion 
whatever  on  this  point,  but  had  simply  left  your 
readers  to  form  their  own  conclusion  as  to  what 
was  likely  to  be  the  value  of  such  a  writer's  criti- 
cism ;  but  being  now  challenged,  I  have  no  hesi- 
tation in  saying  that,  at  p.  5:i3  of  vol.  vii.,  and  at 
p.  .'iOD  and  p.  »*i71  of  your  last  volume,  Mr.  Thorx- 
DURY  has  attacked  both  Mr.  Croker  and  Mr.  Car- 
lyle on  insuHicient  grounds. 

In  the  first  of  these  communications  ("  N.  &  Q.,*^ 
4^''  S.  vii.  o.')2)  Mr.  Tuornrury  writes:  — 

"  Then'  is  an  error  in  Boswell,  which  neither  Croker 
nor  any  later  commentator  has,  I  think,  detected.  The 
dates  of  th^  various  epochs  of  the  career  of  the  great 
conversational  jrladiator  of  the  last  centurj'  are  the  very 
vcrtebr.u  of  hi.s  life.  Now  one  of  the  chief  of  these  dates 
Uoswcll  has  evidently  ?et  down  incorrectly.  At  p.  30  of 
the  l«<;o  edition,  lioswell,  in  his  li.>t  of  Johnston's  London 
residences,  writes  *  Staple  Inn,  175^/  whereas  at  p.  118 
he  inserts  a  letter  of  Johntiion's  to  Mrs.  Lucy  Porter,  date<l 

March  -J.'],  17">!» In  1700  he  had  chambers  at 

No.  I,  Inner  Temple  I-kIuc,  and  in  1777  he  went  to  Bolt 
Court." 

Croker  did  not  detect  the  *'  error  in  BoswelV 
ljL'cau>e  BoswvU  had  made  no  error  to  detect.  The 
date  .Mr.  Thorxrvry  might  have  seen  was  in- 
serted in  brackets  [17o8] ;  mid  had  he  read  the  notes 
at  tlie  foot  of  the  page,  he  would  have  found  it 
specially  stated  that  these  dates  were  Croker's. 
lie  would  also  have  been  saved  the  trouble  of  cojy- 
ing  out  the  two  passages  from  JianseiaSf  and  describ- 
ing the  emotions  with  which  he  "  always  "  reads 
them,  as  ho  would  have  discovered  that  thfl  same 
passages  had  been  copied  out,  and  the  same  feel- 


4*  S.  IX.  Jas.  13,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


43 


ings  experienced,  many  years  before  he  was  bom, 
by  Malone  and  by  Boswell.  It  is  instructive  also 
to  note  that  Mr.  Thorxburt,  while  correctinj? 
the  error  of  1758  for  1759,  goes  on  himself  to 
peTpetrate  another  dislocation  of  the  "  great  con- 
versational gladiator's  vertebrre ''  by  stating  that 
he  "went  to  Bolt  Court  in  1777/'  whereas,  had 
he  turned  to  p.  524,  he  would  have  seen  that 
Johnson  wrote  to  Boswell  from  that  court  in  No- 
vember of  the  preceding  year !  But  if  correction 
No.  1  is  not  altogether  creditable  to  Mr.  Tiiorn- 
bury's  accuracv,  what  shall  1  say  to  correction 
No.  2? 

In  this  case  he  says :  — 

"  Croker,  when  he  liked,  could  be  very  puzzle-headed, 
and  his  notes  are  often  rather  blundering.  In  vol.  vii. 
p.  329  of  the  1«35  edition,  he  is  much  exercised  at  Bos- 
-wrell's  (in  1780)  calling  Akermaun.  the  keeper  of  New- 
gate, his  'esteemed  friend';  he  conjectures  that  it  arose 
from  Boswell's  constant  desire  to  make  the  ncquaintnnce 
of  ever}-bo<ly  eminent,  remarkable,  or  even  notorious, 
and  talks  of  a  strange  propensity  (which  Bozzy  never 
showed)  of  witnessing  executions,  which  had  perhaps 
brought  him  into  intercourse  with  the  benevolent  keeper. 
If  Croker  had  compared  a  few  date"*,  and  looked  closer, 
be  might  have  found  an  easier  explanation  of  the 
phrase,*'  A-c.  Ac. 

But  what  are  Mr.  Croker's  words  ?  — 

"  Why  Mr.  Boswell  should  call  the  keeper  of  Newgate 
hia  *  esteemed  friend,'  has  puzzled  many  readers ;  but 
besides,"  &c.  &c.  [And  here  follow  the  reasons  as  given 
by  Mr.  Thorsbury.J 

Here  it  will  be  seen  that  Mr.  Croker  himself 

was  neither  "puzzle-headed,"  nor  '*  exercised,"  nor 

"blundering."     He  merely  states  what  "many 

readers  "  had  thought,  and  proceeds  to  give  the 

true  explanation:  for,  in  spite  of  Mr.  Thorn- 

bury's  positive  assertion  to  the  contrary,  Boswell 

liadtL  passion  for  attending  executions.    Besides 

this  case  of  Hackman,  which  Mr.  TnoEXBrRY 

has  discovered  "  where  the  Highlander  found  the 

tonffs,"  we  know  that  on  one  occasion  he  came 

fresh  to  Johnson  from  the  execution  of  six  men  at 

Tyburn ;  and  that,  on  another,  he  dragged  Sir  Joshua 

to  witness  the  execution  of  five  nialofactors  at 

Newgate.     So  strong  and  so  well  known,  indeed, 

was  this  propensity  of  Boswell V,  that  he  was 

attacked  about  it  m  the  newspapers,  and  in  his 

printed  vindication  describes  it  as  a  "  patural  and 

irresistible  impulse  "  !     "With  regard  moreover  to 

the  date  of  l/'^O,  on  which  ^1r.  TnoRNBrRr's 

whole  triumph  hinges,  had  he  himself  done  what 

he  accuses  5lr.  Croker  of  neglecting  to  do,  viz. 

"compared  a  few  dates  and  locked  closer,"  he 

would  have  found  that  Bom:eirs  Johmon  was  a 

biography  not  a  diary;  and  that  if  the  epithet 

'*  esteemed  "  reflected  the  feeling  of  the  hour,  it 

was  the  feeling  of  1790,  when  that  portion  of  the 

Life  was  written,  hot  of  1780,  when  the  Gordon 

riots  took  place ;  and  he  would  also  have  found 

that  in  this  Tery  1700  Boswell  was  in  close  in- 

tezcomae  with  Sir.  Akermann.    I  think  1  have 


thus  established  that,  in  this  second  case,  Mb. 
Thorn  BURY  has  contrived  to  make  as  many  mis- 
takes as  it  was  possible  to  com])re8s  into  so  small 
a  compass.  He  has  accused  Mr.  Croker  wrong- 
fully; he  has  contradicted  him  ignorantly;  and 
he  has  based  his  own  small  argument  on  a  false  • 
assumption.  So  much  for  the  chafrges  against 
Mr.  Croker.  That  against  Mr.  Carlyle  may  be 
more  briellv  dismissed. 

**  Mr.  Carlyle,  in  hi^  too  eulo;;istic  life  of  that  great 
!  robber  Frederick  the  (ireat,  rails  at  the  smaller  robber 
Trenck,  and  twice  miscjuotes  his  extraordinary  adven- 
tures." 

Xow,  in  the  first  place,  I  have  been  unable  to 
discover  that  Mr.  Carlyle  makes  any  regular  quo- 
tation from  the  Pandour.     He  speaks  of  him  and 
his  autobiography  with  scorn,  ridicule,  and  con- 
tempt ;  but  does  not  seem  to  go  beyond  borrowing 
a  few  "  touches,"  and  perhaps  expressions,  from 
his  narrative.   1  hardly  like  to  express  a  suspicion 
that  Mr.  Thornbury  has  been  misled  by  the  • 
great   historian's  free    use  of  inverted   commas, 
which  are  employed  page  after  page  as  marks  of 
quotation  from  tliat  very  convenient  invention,  an 
alter  ego,     1^  this  as  it  may,  I  am  quite  content* 
to  rest  my  reprehension  of  Mr.  Thornbury  on 
the  fact  admitted  by  liimself,  that  he  has  never 
seen  the    original  of   the  book  he   accuses  Mr. 
Carlyle  of  misquoting ;  and  is  so  doubtful  of  the 
accuracy  of  the  translation,  that  he  appeals  to 
the  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  to  inform  him  whether 
an  important  passage  is  correctly  rendered. 

*  CniTTELDROOG. 


Longfellow  (4**»  S.  viii.  435.)— An  English 
paper  has  come  to  me  to-day  in  which  there  is  a 
brief  abstract  from  a  note  by  Mr.  J.  II.  Dixon  in 
your  journal  on  a  paper  I  wrote  just  before  our 
tire,  entitled  "  A  Nook  in  the  North."     Will  vou 
let  me  say  I  felt  sorry,  as  I  was  writing  the  paper 
in  question,  that  I  had  not  copied  the  line  about 
tlio  Longfellows  exactly  as  it  stands  in  the  vene- 
rable register,  together  with  the  letter  Mr.  Snow- 
don  read  me  from  the  American  gentleman  whp 
was  digging  for  the  roots  of  this  notable  family 
tree.     1  was  to  read  a  lecture  to  the  Ilkley  folk 
directly  after,  was  then  in  a  grt-at  hui|fy,  wanted 
to  see  as  much  as  p^s.^ible  of  the  registers  down 
to  the  middle  of  the  last  century,  and  did  not  like 
to  trench  too  far  on  the  good  vicar's  time.     But  I 
believe  Mu.  Dixon  is  a  AVharfedale  man.     He  . 
must  therefore  now  and  then  visit  that  jewel  of 
the  dale,  the  town  of  Ilkley ;  when  he  does  so 
he  can   easily  sc^e  the  parchment  and   copy  the 
entry  for  himself;  or  if  that  cannot  be  done,  I  am 
sure  a  note,  addressed  Itev.  John  Snowdon,  will 
bring  a  copy  of  the  entry  and  wliatever  beside  he 
may  need  to  verify  my  statement.     I  hope  he  will 
do  this  for  the  sake  of  the  truth. 


44  NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  [4«»»  s.  ix.  Jan.  lo,  72. 


The  Btory  about  Thomas  Ilebor  is  to  be  found  |  Cervantes  and  hts  Tkanslators  (4*  S.  Tiii, 
in  the  volume  of  the  Surtees  Society,  eutitlod  j  002,  ■\')i'y.) — I  have  h(?ard  it  reported  thiit  a  new 
Depositions  taken  at  York  Ca/tflc.  There  is  no  Kn;rlisli  trunshition  of  Don  Qai/ftte  is  in  prepara- 
copy  that  I  know  of  within  a  tliousand  miles  ot'  tion,  and  probably  the  ;rreat  i^^panish  wit  will 
my  dealt.  I  copied  it  and  had  it  inserted  in  my  be  morn  faitli  fully  rendered  than  in  any  extant 
dear  old  Whittaker's  Craven^  with  many  other  ;  tran^hition.  Sofar  as  th'.'?S pa !ii.*h  t"xt  is  concerned, 
precious  things  about  the  dale,  but  they  all  went  ;  late  editions  will  iiive  an  Kn^'lish  translator  all 
up  in  the  lire,  it  will  bi?  easily  found  in  London.  1  the  assistance  tliat  cjirrful  and  lovinp  editorship 
In  the  same  volume  will  be  foimd  a  curii)U8  a<'.-  .  can  connnand.  It  is  the  ^e:u-rally  accepted  tradi- 
count  of  the  wav  this  Tom  Heber  cau-^ht  certain  ■  tion  that  Shelton  nsrd  tin  Italian  translation,  and 
popish  emissaries  at  Skiplon  on  their  way  to  the  '  this  seems  probabh',  as  IJrunet  ;iives  1010  as  the 
Louse  of  the  Tempests  at  JJrouprhton.  i  date  of  the  llrst  I'^rench  oue  (by  Oudin).   It  &eem$ 

Chica-:o,  Dec.  L';;,  lvS71.  ItouEiiT  CoLLYEK.     i  hardly  probable,  lonldnir  at  the  immense  popu- 

^  ,  ,    ..,       ...     ^-,    .,^.      .  ^  !  laritv'  of  the   Snani.-h  w»irlc,   that   eleven   years 

CAMrSHEAD  (4»»'  ?^.  viii.  :]a-4:,0.)— A  great  ,  would  elapstn.Hf..iv  a  French  translation  appeared 
deal  of  erudition  has  been  wasted  in  this  case,  I  (o^^jiu  published  his  translati-m  of  Spanish  pro- 
because  the  querist  did  not  m-the  lirst  instance  ;  ^.^^^^.^  ^j^  \i)(Y^),  1  merrlv  m.^ntion  these  facts, 
fmd  out  the  true  word  of  which  he  wished  to  ;  ijoping  to  idicit  sonu;  particulars  with  reference  to 
ascertain  the  deriv.'ition  and  meaning.  Ihe  true  i  ^iiy  earliest  QnU-holte  in  French.  Brunet  notes:— 
word  is  caninsheatiiing,  and  it  is  ol  common  use  ,  ,    ,    ^  ,  ^.   .    .  ,     ,  v        i    i,. 

m  enjrineerin^r  contraijts.  It  niejins  a  wooden  |  ^^.^  ^^^  ^^^^^^.^  la  iri.t.  ot  piiovahle  avanturc  a«  her^^r 
ehoathmg  used  to  protect  the  face  ol  a  bank,  whe-  i  i»hili,l,.n  et  Ips  rai-mis  de  la  WWo  ct  chaste  M.im-.lie. 
tber  of  a  river,  or  of  a  dock,  or  of  a  cutting  of  any  ;  accuse: ,  ^\^  ^^^  moit.  i^iris,  Joan  Itiolior,  ir)Ul>.— Episode 
kind.  When  the  purpose  is  efl'ected  by  a  work  in  I  tiiv  ile  la  premiere  partie  du  D.  (iuioliotte."' 
brick  or  stone,  it  is  called  a  retaining  wall.  The  ;  IJrunet  cites  1(;l>1  as  the  date  of  the  firstltnlian 
word  **  sheathing,"  or  as  North-country  people  'translation  he  met  with,  but  says  one  must  Lave 
call  it,  "shOthing,"  corrupted  to  ^'thedding,"  is  appear-'d  prior  to  101  l\  a^Shelton  used  the  Italian 
well  knownin  ship-building,  and  conveys  the  same  ^yoi-k  for  his  edition,  JOiJ.  I  am  inclined  to  think 
idea  of  a  covering  or  protection.  I'iles  in  certain  that  there  must  have  boHU  a  French  transluiioii 
positions  and  of  a  certain  scantling  are  for  the  same  ;  pviQ^  to  IGlO,  and  that  Shelton  used  it. 
reason   called  sheathing  piles.      As  to  the  iirst  i  F.  \V.  C. 

syllable,  I  am  inclined  to  tln^nk, but  I  cannot  now  i       .^,.,.„,.,,.^.   ,,,,,,„  jrrsKiniiv    (4'>'  S.  yiii.  .171. 
venfymjr  conjecture,  tbat  it  sbould  be  "  camb,;    .  ^^-  .f^-       ,  i.^ve  to  thmik  Mu.  W.  11.  RrssKU, 

and  that  it  refers  to  the  curved  or  "cambered     i  ..     i  •    •   «        ,•        „j  ,    ,.,»«<■  frx  ,»,r  i^.t..      if  t 
r  Ti-i-      u     A-u-  c  ^\       '^  •\     e  lor  his  inl<.'nv'<ting  enaors^'ment  to  mv  iiote.     if  1 

form  of  the  sheathing  or  of  the  piles  or  ribs  form-  '  ,  r,  i'    ,.  i,  :„,•,.„,.,„*'    :.,i,*i^    ♦!,„ 

.1  t.     c  .-i       \     ..\ '  I  •  I.   *  I  r»'meiiiber  luv  ohl  rrunrh  inlorniant  riglitlv,  1 1*? 

mc  the  support  of  the  sheathing;  which  term,      ,>  ,      *     „  ..+    \.,.*.,.i;f,   ,x'»^.»   r',»i«i.ii>bo 

,^.  ,|  ^\.  ,.  '^A     ,    ,     .    4.1.1  IJussian  b«)winen  at  AusttTlitz   were    (..almucKS. 

strictly  speaking  applies  more  narticularly  to  the  ,       j   ^^^^^  ^^^^^^      ^^,^^   ^j,^,   ^^^^^^^^  ^^  ,„^..^' 

Hat  timbers,     lornierly  campsheatliings  were  of  ;  ^^^^^  ^^,^^^^  ^^,^^j.^^^.^  ^^,^^^  ^^.^.^,^      observers. 
more  common  use  in  large  works  than  they  are  I  AValtek  TnoRNBrRT. 

now,   masonry   and  ironwork  having  superseded  i      .  p„,„i,..^i.,  ,„„,  ii,.ii,oni,  I-.C. 
them;  and  as  thev  are  onlv  used  nowin  compara-  I        ,„         .,     ,,.     .      ...    „,.^    „..,,     .o^- \       nr 
lively  small  wort...  ^vIa-re•  so  fnoat  rt«i.tauc«  to     ^,  "  I'l""^-:     (l'"  ••^-  ?'''•  •'-^•''  •''.^'  ^'.'-^.^^ 
pressure  i,s  not  needed,  tl.cv  are  rarely  .e.-n  in  a  I  ^/^'■■^■'-  taunts  n.e  with  a  specmieii  of  what  be 
iurred  form.  A.  V.  1).     |  '•.''""st;--  to  call  "  fju.ijsin-  otymolofry.       I  con- 

I  sid^nd,  jmd  still  consider,  the  word  pn^e  as  a 

This  word  is  spelt  also  camp-^hcatlimf/,  an<l  !  eontraction  of  upraise;  and  see  no  reason  why  I 
(more  commonly)  campmhun ;  and  though  Mk.  jun  to  dmve  it  fnmi  a  French  word.  The  French 
Skkats'  explanation  of  the  former  part  of  the  ^^.ol.d;;n>  signi ties  a  seizing  or  holding  f a«t ;  but 
word  is  pkinly  correct,  1  venture  to  suggest  a  ^^^^j.  mechanics'  term  "prise"'  meaus  -something 
doubt  whether  the  verb  xh'tl  has  any  part  in  the  ^i ore— raising  up.  (»r  upraisina.  A  man  mav  8«nze 
latter  half.  The  cnmp<l<Un(j  is  a  planking  with  jj,^|  j^.^jj  fast,  without  intending  to  mise,  o'r  force 
which  the  sloping  sides  of  ii  canal  or  the  like  are     ^p  y,  C.  H. 

lined;  and  it  seems  rat hiir  forced  to  suppose  it  to  /*  v   « 

divide  the  sides,  either  from  the  water  or  from         Fu^ehal   of  Queen   Caroline   {V^   S.  vni. 
one  another.  •  281,  Vi\\\\  4f>.'l.)— 1  see  by  your  correspondents 

Is  it  not  rather  the  sidimj  or  sheaf hinff  of  the  !  note  (p.  4G.r)  that  there  was  no  foundatioii  for 
camhy  verge  or  brink  of  the  canal?  Another  name  '  the  generally  received  opinion,  at  the  time,  tliat 
for  the  same  thing  is  campsiead,  whi(;h  I  supp(vse  •  Sir  Kobert  Wilson  lost  his  commission  in  the 
implies  the  propping  up  or  retaining  of  the  said  '  army—where  he  had  rendered  such- distrnguuihed 
camh.  Hexiiv  II.  GiUDS.     ■  services-in  consequence  of  havingtakenan  actire 

St.  Dunstans,  Regents  Park.  ".  part  in  the  demonstration  at  the  Queen  a  funeraL 


4*  8.  IX.  Jaji.  13,  7i] 


KOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


45 


Mr.  BiitDOLPH,  ViitiDg  the  Life  of  this  nallani 
•oldief,  DO  doubt  has  the  heat  authority  for  his 
contradiction:  uod  I  stood  corrected  when  liv 
attinDB  th»t  Sir  Robert  '■  wtis  aiuiply  following  »<> 
A  mouroer,"  on  horstbnck, '' but  not  iu  umform": 
and  "the  ouly  reason  for  Lis  prttnence  at  all 
being  the  fact  of  his  eldest  son  having  beetJ 
equerry  to  the  late  queen."  But  then  what  coulii 
be  the  cania  catuani  of  Sir  Itobert  Wibon's  being, 
"by  an  arbitrary  and  unjust  fiat  of  a  servile  nnd 
hostile  government,  absolutely  de|irived  of  his 
commission  and  all  the  fruits  of  his  long  and 
arduous  services"?  This  hi^ton  we  shall  learn 
in  the  third  volume  of  his  Liji;  which  I  shall 
read  with  interest.  Mr.  liANHOLrn  ngniti  says : 
"  His  restoration  wns  owing  more  to  the  personal 
favour  of  (be  king  than  to  any  iucervention  ";  and 
yet,  according  to  his  own  showing  and  .Sir  Itobert's 
□otes.  ''Lord  Ilertford  told  him  that  the  Duke 
of  Clarencu  asked  his  opinion  as  to  what  he 
ahould  do  on  becoming  king,  and  tiiat  he  (the 
Marquis  of  Hertford)  recommended  him  to  rcsU>re 
Sir  Robert  Wilson."  Mr,  Peel,  too,  told  him 
"that  be  had  tnkeo  the  liret  step  for  his  restoru' 
tion";  and  !'Sir  Henry  ilardiuge  told  him  that 
the  Uuke  of  Wellington  had  (aid, '  The  time  is 
come  for  Wilson's  reinstatement.' "  Surely  thcee 
interventions  or  recommenJafions,  wliatever  you 
please  to  call  them,  coming  fr<im  such  advisers, 
muat  have  bad  great  weight  on  the  old  and  at 
the  gamo  time  new  king.  In  fact,  we  learn  that 
Lord  Hill  had.  on  July  L'l,  directions  from  Wil- 
liam IV.  for  the  restoration  to  the  army  of  the 
noble  Sir  Robert  Wilson  with  the  rank  of  lieut,- 
jrencral,  and  that  he  was  accordinglv  gazetted  on  i 
the  23rd. 

One  of  Sir  IJohert  Wilson's  aona,  ho  told  me,  | 
went  out  to  South  America,  and  became  aide-de- 
camp  to  the  liberator  Bolivar.   Was  it  the  eldest?  l 
1'.  A.  L. 

Wabhisg  lUsns  (J'"  S.  viii.  50.=;.)— The  same 
fiincy  as  to  the  necessity  for  the  sign  of  the  crOM 
being  made  over  water,  to  prevent  a  quarrel  with 
the  parson  who  han  already  washed  in  it,  prevails 
in  this  part  of  the  West  liiding.  (.i.  T.  1).     | 

IIiiilder.Qp)il.  I 

This  making'  "the  sign  of  the  cross  over  the 
water'*  was  common  in  the  villiiga  where  I  woa  I 
bnm,  and  we  practisei!  it  at  school.  I  add  another 
oil  in  connection  with  hand-washing: — -If  you 
wipe  your  hands  on  the  same  towel,  and  at  the 
wme  time  with  another  person,  you  and  that 
'  peiKHi  will,  at  some  time  in  life,  go  a-begging 
together,  Thos.  Ratclifpe. 

Datid;  Davit  (4"  S.  viii.  339, 402. )—F.C.n. 
My*  "  ths  Welsh  name  ia  Dewg  or  l)eicid."  In 
"An  £Ug7"  to  Nest,  the  daughter  of  Ilowel, 
by  Saitm,  tha  wn  of  Gwilchmai,  about  the  year 


1240*,  the  name  I 

valent  to  Deiey.  The  name  of  a  famous  A 
bard,  who  flourished  a.  b.  1400.  \>  (iriffydd 
Llwjd-ap-Dn/i/rf(/-np  E^nion  Llygliw.t  '  In  the 
"BrutyTywj-sogiou,"'tho  name  is  variously  apelt, 
viz.  Jh/ued,  JJi/fiil,  Davi/ii,  Jfaryd,  liatiid. 

Clerkenwdl,  k!c.  J-  JBttEMlin. 

Bo^Eis  (4"-  S.  viii.  CIO.)— W.  M.  51.  will  find 
much  curious  and  amusing  information  concerning 
women's  head  dresses  in  a  paper  by  J.'  A.  Itepton 
in  The  Arcliaolor/ia,  vol.  xxvii.  pp.  i?ll-7C.  .\mong 
other  documents  quoted  there  la  the  provision 
accounts  on  '•  The  .Marriage  of  the  Daughters  of 
Sir  .1.  Nevil,  teiif.  Henry  VIII." 

The  prices  of  ladies'  wmriets  seem  to  have  been 
high,  but  these  were  no  doubt  of  a  costly  hind : — 
"  Item,  -■!  Hack  ^■clvet  Uiunili  fur  women.  EviTv    i.  rf. 


12 


The  writer  also  quotes  Hall  '{l  suppose  the 
chronicler,  but  be  does  not  fay  so,  or  give  any 
reference  to  ns.iist  in  verification),  who  speaks  of 
ten  ladies  who  hnd  "  on  their  heailes  square  bon- 
nettes  of  demaske  gold  with  lose  goldu  that  did 
hang  douno  at  their  backes." 


EcwAP.D  Pe.vcock. 
Hbros,  or  Heese  (4'"  S.  viii.  .'iir.)— A  highly 
educated  Indj,  a  native  of  the  south  of  England, 
I  Once  told  me  that  she  could  tell,  if  she  had  not. 
'  already  known,  that  I  was  a  native  of  Lancashiru 
I  irom  the  fact  that  I  pronounced  tho  word  Herou 
as  it  is  spelt,  and  not  Heme,  at  I  ought  to  do. 

"  Buck  B.\Bssr,r:y "'  {i'"  S.  viii.  451.)— I  am 
well  acquainted  wiHi  "  lilahe  Ikmsley,"  uud  have 
I  no  hesitation  in  declaring  that  B/iifeu— the  dialect 
fonn  used  as  au  adjunct  to  the  town — means  A/«fA 
nnd  not  black.  In  the  dialect  of  Lancashire,  Hake 
certainly  means  y<iek.  Thus  "Bl.ikehum,"  = 
Black'bam.  is  the  Hack  burn  or  rivulut  j'ut  the 
meaning  of  W«ic,  in  the  Inngunfif  of  Tom  Treddle- 
hovle.  is  dill'erent  to  its  siu' nil i cation  in  that  of 
Tim  Bobbin.  '  ViatoiiI.1.) 

CAiiR-rKKCit  (■!"■  S.  viii.  .11'.?,)- A  abalo  of 
this  description  is  common  in  Derbyshire,  and  is 
used  by  Hchool-hovs  when  thov  find  pieces  long 
i;nough  to  write  with.  They  call  it  "  dog-pencil ''; 
why  so,  I  have  often  wondered. 

Tnos.  Datcliffe. 

Gese.\looical  Hist  (4«^  R.  viii.  fiU)— The 
.=uggeation  of  JIr.  BiBBHf  otos,  that  a  child  should 

•  Kvans'a  Sptciment  of  Aiuiatt  IFWiA  ftxlry,  LUnld 

lM«,  reprinled  from  Dodnlejr'i  wlilion  of  1764,  p.  28. 
t  EvBOs,  p.  U- 


46 


NOTES  AND  QUEKIES. 


[4»»»  S.  IX.  Jan.  13.  72, 


'I  1 


bear  his  mother's  as  well  as  his  own  Christian 
name  and  his  fatherV  surname,  has  been  a  fa- 
vourite argument  of  mine  for  several  years.  It 
would  have  many  advantages  beyond  those  named. 
It  would  not  only  distinguish  the  child  from  all 
others  bearing  a  favourite  family  name,  but  would 
permanently  record  the  mother's  maiden  name  as 
well.  It  would  connect  families  between  which 
only  a  vague  and  doubtful  linlc  exists.     A  recent 


..  .^ — — J  _  — ^  --  —  _  _  , 
to  pause  to  explain  that  this  is  tlie  second  of  the 
three  who  have  borne  'tlie  name  of  *'  John  Wal- 
ter," and  who  have  all  been  associated  with  The 
Times,  The  only  possible  objection  is,  that  names 
would  become  too  long;  but  practically  double 
names  are  so  common  (merely  to  distinguish) 
that  such  an  objection  has  little  weight.  One 
odd  diflerenco  in  the  fashion  of  names  has  often 
struck  me.  In  England,  and  especiallv  lately,  we 
give  the  second  name  in  full— «-G.  ^Va.-ihington 
Moon,  &c.;  wliile  in  tlu^  Unitf'd  States  the  cus- 
tom is  generally  rever.'^t'd,  and  George  W.  Moon 
would  be  the  common  form.  Este. 

Stereoscopy  (4***  S.  viii.  G12.) — Your  corre- 
spondent will  find  that  he  can  obtain  the  eilect 
produced  by  a  picture  in  a  stereoscope  in  the  fol- 
lowing manner: — Let  him  hold  the  slide  before 
him  at  a  proper  distance  to  enable  him  to  see 
both  pictures  distinctly.     lie  should  thc-n,  with-  \  morni 


is  common  to  old  houses :  it  was  told  me  of  the 
great  house  at  Malsanger.*'  This  last  house  is 
near  Basingstoke,  and,  at  nearly  the  same  date,  is 
said  to  have  been  unoccupied.  "  (Carv's  Paterson^s 
Road<,  1.Sl><^.)  Xttteltow. 

Jlajjloy  Hall,  StunrliriClge. 

Marriages  of  ExfiLisn  Princesses  (4^^  S. 
vii.  ;;r7.s.<i/7i ;  viii.  .07,  152,  25;?,  315,  402.)— Mr. 
T.  S.  Norgatk's  contribution  may  be  an  interest- 
human 
reverend 
alto- 
gether beside  the  point  at  issue.  The  names  of 
prince!^>es  registered  in  *' N.  k  Q/'  imder  the 
above  title  wiTe  (laughtei-s  or  sisters  of  the  sove- 
reign :  and  if  your  correspondent  did  not,  he 
ought  to  hnve  known  this.  Perhaps  he  will  allow 
me  to  tell  him  that  the  Lady  Alianore  had  four 
sisters,  nil  of  whom  married  subjects  of  the  reign- 
ing sovereign  :  and  her  brother  (the  first  Duke  of 
Lancaster),  the  father  of  ^*  Blanche,''  also  married 
a  subject;  but  they  were  great-grandchildren  of 
one  kmg  and  great-nieces  and  nephew  of  another, 
and  were  theni^Jelves  children  of  the  third  Earl  of 
Lancftster,  whose  wife  **  Chaworth "  was  not  of 
royal  blood.  Tlie  Lady  Eleanor's  husband,  the 
Earl  of  Arundel,  was,  by  the  wav,  her  second 
husband.  "  JuNir  Nepos. 

Gyldon  Spil-^dl-ut  (4**'  S.  viii.  528.)— By  a 
singular    ---     - '  '^  •    .    .< 


lar  coincMeiioe    I  wjts   occupied  the  Tcry 
ng  I  ri?ceiv.j(l  "  N.  &  Q."  in  endeavouring  to 
iind  out  this  name  in  the   Court  GuiJej  Londtu^ 
Uirccfon/.  &c.,  in  which  I  was  unsuccessfuL 

I  havi3  for  many  years  been  trvihg  to  find  out 

the  inventor  or  patentee  of  a  paint  called  kalso- 

ine,  which  I  b/lieve  was  first,  invented  by  Miss 


out  altering  the  distance  of  the  slide,  look  as  it 
were  through  it,  as  if  the  slide  were  of  glas.s.  He 
will  then  become  awart>  of  four  pictures,  of  which 
the  two  innermost  will  gradually  merge  into  one ; 
when  this  is  accomplished,  he  will  se<'  only  three, 
and  the  middle  one  will  stand  out  with  the  usual 
fctereosc 
the  sli 

two  innennusL  piumrt.-s  ut-^-m  lu  iult-c,  lyu  k,u'  ^vas  used  »>v  (me  ot  tlie  tirst  house-painters  in 
server  must  look  further  or  nearer  thr  )u.i:h  the  i  J.ond-n.  In  lis  hands,  however,  it  was  not  suc- 
slide,  until  both  become  one.  1  never  re^iuire  the  !  ces.sfuK  as  it  (li:l  not  prove  remunerative,  and  he 
aid  of  a  box  when  looking  at  a  slide.  |  discontimieil    the   use  of  it,  and  it  is  now  only 

Alfred  SrRoxG.       einploved  bv  one  house,  who  will  not  give  the 
Junior  Athcmoum  Club,  Piccadilly.  \V.  !  rt^^i^i^ipt.  * 

Not  many  ladies,  I  should  think,  would  care  to  |  1  have  r.Mjently  and  nccidentally  come  into  pos- 
bo  subjected  to  such  an  ordeal  as  that  suggested  i  session  of  the  Third  lirpoH  of  tlte  Co?nmissioHen 
by  your  correspondent.  At  all  events,  I  doubt  if  j  on  the  Fine  Arf<  in  1844  (a  parliamentary  paper), 
ftcicncv  would  be  the  thought  iinperni<><t  in  the  |  and   the  appendix   contains   an   account  of  thu 


minds  of  persons  so  situated,  (live  ine  leave  to 
recommend  the  proposed  alteniative,  viz.  to  ''per- 
form it  alone  by  tlattening  one's  ncx^*;  against  a 
looking-glass,''  in  preference  to  tlje  other  method. 
which  seems  to  inculcate  an  excepti  mal  morality. 

JUlho. 

"The  Misletol  Bough"  (4»»'  S.  viii.  S,  ;n.% 
554.)-Miss  Mitford  in  1821)  (Z(7V',  ii.  281)  savs 
this  story  belongs  to  Bramshill,  Sir  J«ilin  Cope's 
house  in  Hampshire.    But  she  adds,  "  This  slory 


paint  signed  '^  Gybbon  Spilsbury,  Patentee."  I 
am  ther<-f.)rt»,  though  for  another  Wise,  interested 
in  M.  l).'s  inquiry,  and  should  much  like  to  know 
if  Mr.  Spilsbury  is  still  alive  and  still  in  posses- 
sion of  tlie  patent  J  or  if  not,  who  the  patent  now 
rests  with.  IL  M.  SusSBX. 

Battle  of  IIarlaw  (4*^  S,  viii.  627.) — ^I  beg 
tt>  reoommeiid  to  your  correspoudeDt  the  account 
of  this  battle  in  Mr.  Arthur  Hill  Burton's  History 
of  Scot  land  as  being  both  graphic  and  accurate. 

J  H.  L  OAJUjtr. 


4*  S.  IX.  Jan.  13,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


47 


V 


Obphaitage  (4}^  S.  Tiii.  518.)— 1  cannot  help 
to  determine  when  this  word  "  orphanage  "  was 
first  diverted  from  its  proper  original  meaning  of 
''state  of  an  orphan"  to  that  which  it  usually 
bears  at  present;  but  this  use  of  the  termination 
age  need  not  surprise  anyone  who  considers  its 
local  force  in  "hermitage,'^  ♦*  steerage,''  ''vicar- 
age "  &c.,  or  its  collective  force  in  *'  baggage, 
"  coinnge,'*  "  verbiage,"  &c.  As  •'  orphan  "  is 
from  the  Greek,  a  purist  would  object  to  such  a 
word  as  **  orphanhood,"  as  a  hybrid ;  but  happily 
there  is  no  such  word.  J.  H.  1-  Oakley. 

"  He  made  the  Desert  smile  "  (4^**  S.  viii. 
'518.)— I  was  familiar  with  the  noble  mansion  of 
Alton  Towers  in  the  days  of  its  glory,  and  well 
knew  the  iigure  and  inscription  alluded  to  bv 
Ella.  It  is  a  bust,  however,  not  a  statue,  which 
surmounts  the  pedestal.  The  iirst  time  I  viwted 
that  fairy  land  was  in  the  time  of  the  excellent 
Earl  John ;  and  going  with  him  over  the  inde- 
scribably beautiful  gardens,  we  cam**  to  this  pe- 
destal and  bust.  I  had  no  idea  whom  the  bust 
represented  ;  and  not  being  very  near  it,  it  struck 
me  as  so  like  O'Connell,  that  I  niid  very  un- 
guardedly to  Lord  Shrewsbury,  **  That,  1  sup- 
pose, is  O'Connell."  Had  I  been  near  enough  to 
read  the  inscription,  or  had  I  reflected  for  a  mo- 
ment on  the  antagonism  between  O'Connell  and 
the  noble  earl,  I  should  never  have  uttered  words 
80  rash  and  offensive.  Lord  S.  immediately 
anflwered  in  a  tone  of  surprise,  as  well  he  mi":ht : 
"  O  no,  that's  my  uncle."  It  was  in  fact  the  bust 
of  Charles,  Earl  of  Shrewsbur}',  who  built  Alton 
Towers,  and  laid  out  the  magnilicent  gardens, 
where  before  there  had  been  little  better  than  a 
desert.  The  line  below  is  very  happily  chosen. 
I  am  not  sure,  however,  if  it  is  a  quotation.  It 
sounds  like  one  from  Pope ;  but  I  have  not  found 
it  in  his  poems.  !'•  ^-  ^I- 

This  line  is  engraved  on  the  pedestal  of  the 
bust  of  the  Earl  of  Shrewsbury,  who  built  Alton 
Towers.  I  ne^er  took  it  for  a  quotation,  but  it 
refers  to  the  fact  that  he  converted  what  was  once 
a  rabbit  warren  into  these  beautiful  though  fan- 
taatic  gardens.  W.  J.  Beiimiard  Smith. 

Christening  Bit  (4*  S.  viii.  SCMJ.)— I  have 
frequently  witnessed,  at  Looe,  in  south-east  Corn- 
wJl,  the  custom  described  by  IT.  A.  The  gift, 
however,  was  generally  a  small  cake  made  for  the 
purpose,  and  was  called  the  "  christening  crib" — 
ft  crib  of  bread  or  cake  being  a  provincialism  for  a 
bit  oi  bread,  &c.  -According  to  the  late  Mr.  Couch* 
the  same  custom  was  formerly  observed  at  Pol- 
penOj  about  three  miles  from  Looe,  at  weddings 
as  well  sa  christenings.  The  gift,  there  termed 
the  kimbly,  was  also  made  to  the  person  who 
brought  the  first  news  of  a  birth  .to  those  interested 
in  the  new  arriyal. .  Wm.  Pekgellt. 

•  Biaary  of  Folperrot  ^^^  129-80  (1871). 


NOTES  ON  BOOKS,  ETC. 

Round  the  World  in  1870 :  an  Account  of  a  brief  Tour 
made  through  IndiUf  China,  Japan,  California^  and 
South  America,  By  A.'D.  Carlisle,  B.A.,  Trin.  Coll. 
Cam.     (King  <t  Co.) 

An  unpretending,  pleasantly  written  narative,  of  a 

thirteen   months*  run   round  (be  world,  five  of  which 

were    spcut  on  board  the  steamers.    It  is  for  the  most 

part  a  transcript  from  the  author's  journal,  and  claims 

;  to  be  nothing  more  than  an  easy,  truthflil,  and,  as  the 

'  writer  moile.>tly  hopes,  not  uninteresting  account  of  the 

I  men,  manners,  and  objects  of  interest,  natural  and  art!- 

'  ficial,  seen  in  the  different  countries  visitetl  bv  him.    In 

;  one  respect  Mr.  Carlisle  show^  marked  goo<l  sense,  for 

;  feeling  very  properly  that  his  opportunity  of  forming  a 

'  judgment  upon  many  of  the  vexed  questions  connected 

,  with  the  various  places  visited  by  him  were  too  few  and 

'  too  brief,  he  very  wisely  abstains  from  dogmatising  on 

.  such  difficult  topics ;  and  we  sincerely  hope  that  any  one 

'  with  1500/.  to  !*pare,  and  two  years  on  hand,  who  may 

!  be  disposed  to  employ  thorn  in  a  similar  trip,  will,  if  ho 

'  publishes  an  account  of  his  travels,  follow  in  this  respeQt 

the  excellent  example  set  by  Mr.  Carlisle. 

Count    Rolwrt  of  Paris.    By  Sir  Walter  Scott,  Bart. 
(A.  <fc  C.  Black.) 

The  Surgeoiis  Daughter  and  Caxtle  Dangerous.     By  Sir 
Walter  Scott,  Bart.     (A.  &  C.  Black.) 

I  With  these  two  volumes,  the  24th  and  25th,  "The 
!  Centenarv'  Edition "  of  The  Warerley  Novels  is  brought 
to  tt  close.  Its  success  has  been  very  great ;  and  it  is  a 
good  sign  that  there  is  such  a  demand  for  these  admirable 
\  and  healtliy  fictions,  for  we  were  assured  the  other  day 
<  by  a  London  retail  bookseller  that  he  had  himself  sold 
;  upwards  of  four  thousand  volumes  of  this  cheap  and 
'  popular  issue  of  them. 

;  Pliny  s  Letters,    By  the  Rev.  Alfred  Church,  M.A.,  Head 
I      M%ster  of   the  Boyal  Grammar  School,  Ilenley-on- 
Thames,  and  the  Kev.  W.  J.  Bro<lribb,  M.A.,  lute  Fel- 
low of  St.  John's  College,  Cambridge.    (Blackwood.)   ' 

This  new  volume  of  Messrs.  Blackwood's  "Ancient 
Classics  for  English  Readers"  will,  we  think,  prove  to  be 
one  of  the  most  popular  of  the  Series.  In  the  first  place,  from 
the  introductory  notice  of  the  Younger  Pliny,  and  of  the 
important  period ^t  which  he  lived — that  period  of  tran- 
sition in  the  history  of  mankind  which  began  with  the 
origin  and  ri:<e  of  the  Christian  Church ;  and  next,  from 
the  great  interest  both  in  the  matter  and  style  of  his 
letters.  In  the  work  before  us  many  of  the  translations 
are  borrowed  from  those  of  I>ord  (Jrrery  and  Melmoth, 
some  few  are  derived  from  Dean  Meriva'le,  and  the  rest 
arc  by  the  editors. 

Books  reckivkd. — The  Debatable  Ltmd  between  this 
World  and  the  ytxt.  With  Illustrative  Narratives,  By 
Robert  Dale  Owen.  (Triibner  ^  Co.)  We  have  neither 
time  nor  space  to  enter  into  an  examination  of  our 
author's  views  on  Spiritualism,  and  must  therefore  con- 
tent ourselves  with  calling  the  attention  of  our  readers 
interested  in  the  subject  to  Mr.  Owen's  book. — Johnnie 
Gibb  of  Gusfietneidk,  in  the  Parish  of  Pyketillim.  With 
Glimpses  of  the  Parish  Polities  about  A.D.  1843.  (Walker, 
Aberdeen.;  An  amut^in^  sketch  of  Aberdeen  rurnl  lifp, 
exhibiting  the  characteristics  of  the  Aberdeen  Dialect, 
which  will  amuse  readera  generally  and  Aberdeen  folk  es- 
pecially.—  Water  not  Convex :  the  Earth  not  a  Globe,  De- 
monstrated by  William X^penter.  (Printed  for  the  Author, 
Lcwisham.)     We  do  not  profess  to  treat  questions  of 


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[4t»»  S.  IX.  Jaw.  13, 72. 


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i 


I; 

i 

1 


science  in  tlieso  columns,  and  thcn-ifore  leave  Mr.  Car- 
penter's itieory  to  t!io  examination  of  our  more  scicntilic 
contemporaries.  —  White's  Sultsta»th«t  SenhrUi/  Arimj 
List.  Firnt  Issue.  Majors  and  Captains.  (II.  S.  Kin/s^ 
&  Co.)  In  the  uncertainty  which  still  obtains  with 
respect  to  the  future  ori^ani-^ation  of  the  army,  our  mili- 
tary readers  miy  he  pleased  to  l»;;»rn  the  existence  of  an 
Annv  Li^it  liU«.'  this  whicli  exhibit-*  the  "  Seniority  " 
which  is  dc^tiln.■  1  to  be  "  tempered  by  selection  and 
merit." 

TiiK  new  editi«.»n  of  Mr,  Walfonl's  "(^)unty  Families" 
(which  is  dr-dicat'Ml,  by  special  penni.s'iim,  ti)  U.K. II.  the 
Prince  of  \Vah;s)  will  bo  publisli-^d  by  ^Ir.  ilardwicke 
very  shortly.  Il  will  contnin  I'OO  mlilitional  families, 
without,  however,  addin;^  to  th-}  bulk  or  the  co^^t  of  the 
work.  Henceforth  it  will  bo  publiahed  annually,  toge- 
ther with  the  Peerages. 

A<;nirPA  D'Avbkjnk. — Tltc  .'ir/icm/vim announces  that 
M.  Kc'aume,  Professor  at  the  Lycde  Condorcct,  in  Paris,  and 
M.  de  Caussade.  are  prcparin;;  a  JMimjilete  edition  of  the 
works  of  Ai^rippa  D'Aubigne'.  TIh-v  have  been  able  to 
avail  themselves  of  the  valuabl.*  ^IS.  collections  belong- 
ing to  the  late  Col.  Trouchui  of  (ieneva.  The  w^rks  will 
be  cla-^sifit'd  a<  fdlows  :  1.  ]\Iemoirs — Correspomlrfnce 
(entirely  iu'Uitr)^  with  a  portrait  of  the  aiithor.  -J.  Aven- 
tures  du  IJuron  ilu  P<iincste — (J«»nfe.-iMon  de  Sanoy — 
Traite  de  la  Douceur  dans  les  A  mictions — (Kuvres  <li- 
ver-K^s  en  Prose.  3.  Les  Tragiques — Poeme  sur  la  Crea- 
tion (inrdil).  1.  INn'me  du  I'rintempset  Poc-sies  diver.-es 
(inrdits).  0.  Memoirs  on  the  Life  and  Writings  of 
D'Aubigne — ljibli<»graphi<ral  ICssay — Various  headings — 
Coniment.nry — Table  of  Proper  Names — (llossary.  G-lo. 
Uiiitoirc  Univerielle.    The  lirst  volume  is  in  the  press. 


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Partirnlari  of  Price,  ftc.  of  the  follo'vintr  b'^'^k^  to  be -i-nt  ttinvtto 
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ary  driven  fur  t)»al  purr-ose  :— 

Thk  Mki'.  (•>■  PiM-.nT:  Uar*»km.. 

MKiioni.s  Of  .1.  I.  Sizniihs  thk  Paixtku.  ^VitIl  Portrait.    -v>.   l^Si._ 

WaiiUu  by  I :"i  ■'■«.»  ./.  Tfo'ui.'*,  »/.,  4't.  Si.  (ioorjc'*  S-i;i:irv, 
Ik'lffravc  l^«l«l.  S.W. 


nav.viAKir.M  I,T!:o:>TFN~H. 

Si-.\N>iKM;KliiM   Pi<«i  11, LA. 

liiiiiiiitiiitiii  <•'  n:i-ly  Kn::li»h  MSS. 
Kaily  r,nirr:iviri.;,. 

Wuiitvd  by  /•■c^■.  J.  (.'.  Jill  l'"'-!!,  13.  M.inor  Tirracc,  AniLurst  P.'»n<l, 

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W'ttiiltil  by  X'r.  M".  J.  /J.  t  'vliili/r,  KxvtiT  ColLi^o.  Uxfjfd. 
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MiiH.  -Maiiv  \V«  i.>.ii>m:iait  Iioi»\yix's  \Vo::ks. 

PiiYsicM.  ViT.i.  or  \iv\  AN!)  Wovy.x. 

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nil  ,\«:triib-".  ."• 
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Wuntvd  by  .Mr.  Vn-i.tui  Mill'ii.l,  7'.'.  St.  PaiilV  C'him'rnvi',  T.-'r..lon. 

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C\iM'i;vTr.i:S  III. max  l'HYsr«n.o«n.    Mh  Kiluinu. 
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^ottcrif  ta  Carrtipantsenti. 

TiiK  Ixdk:^  fo  onr  /ant  Volume  tcill  be  readu  for  dUi- 
very  irith  •*  N.  &  Q."  of  Saturday  uext, 

W.  F.  D. —  The  subjects  on  tchieh  you  have  wntitnart 
really  c.rhanstrd ;  it  /*»,  therefore^  with  regret  thai  we  are 
cnmpelletl  to  withhold  your  communications.  For  the  tame 
reason  we  must  appeal  to  our  rea/iers  fienerally  to  bear  vitk 
us  when  we  e.r press  n  rather  decided  opinion  that  the  cloae 
of  lust  year  should  witness  the  termiiuition  of  many  oidxih' 
CNssitms, 

CniTri:i.Di:o()(;. —  I'our  P.S.  arrived  too  late  for  ikk 

week. 

.1.  K.  V.  A.  (NVhitehall.)— //arr  you  referred  to  pp.  292 
and  47l>  ?  Perhaps  one  of  these  is  the  article  referred  to; 
iJ'7iof^  repeat  the  t/nery. 

J.  M.  (Xewark.) — JTc  do  not  remember  having  received 
any  paper  from  you  on  the  Talmud, 

y.  B. — *•  Orlis  crphratis,'^  the  7cords  on  the  late  Sir 
John   IJemchers  yravestone^   is   the  motto  oh   the  famUy 

arms. 

('UTHRKUT  l\v/l)V..—To  prevent  all  possibility  of  muteii^ 
1  will  yon  be  yood  vnonqh  to  re- write,  at  the  proper  titUj 
:  your  fhtpvr  as  you  u'ish  it  to  appear  in  **  X.  &  Q."  ? 

II.  J.  II.  (Ipswich.)— 77<t;  Twelve  Colden  liules  attrt- 
bufad  to  Charles  J.  are  printed  in  "N.  it  Q."  ;Jf«»  S.iiL  197, 
2 IT),  //'"e  are  inclined,  however,  to  think  they  were  agreed 
to  by  Ben  Jonson  and  his  fellow  poets,  and  eaiied  ly 
them  "  Table  ObservationsJ'*-^ — For  some  arcount  ofJokn 
Bowles,  the  eny rarer,  see  **  X.  &  (J."  3'**  S.  ii.  145,  254* 

T.  P.  F. — Cat  ice  is  a  term  for  ice  from  which  the  water 
has  rrredtd.  The  phrase  is  erplained  in  **  N.  &  Q."  S'* SJ. 
i.  '\'2\K 

I  N I :  M I  -  M  A  Ti )  I  .<  M :  T  S'l'. — BoVi  queries  will  be  answered  pri- 
Viitrly  on  apptioftiou  to  Jlr.  Robert  Heady  at  the  BruUk 

Jilmtetnn. 

I       M.  1). —  The  noti.'e  of  Francis  H'alkingame  appeand  oi 

1  "N.  A'  or  L"-'i.s.  iv. -i:!.*). 

.1.  U'.  (.Uinior  Carlton  Club.)— TVif  Penny  MtgarilM 
'  rtninne/r'td  on  April  I,  lii:;2,  and  the  Saturday  MagftziiM 

;  on  July  7,  Is;J-J.  « 

I      Kii.rr.-Coi,.  \y.  U.  Wai.i.a<k.-— Proso"  by  a  Poet,  8 
,  nils.  \i>2\,is  by  the  late  James  Jfontyomery,  of  SheJUeid^ 
•   Srr  Jloliand  and  Plvvrctt's  ^lemoirs  of  him,  iv.  ^9. 
I       'S.—  Kd'card  IWnnot  {oh.  Jan.  1792)  teas  the  author 

ofihr  hymn  *"  All  haU  the  jftwer  of  Jesus  wime.*'     (Mil' 
\  ler's  Singi-rs  and  JNmgs  of  the  Church,  ed.  1800,  p.  247.) 

M A<  K u< M  I iKii:.  —  The  cottaye-building  humorist,  and 
'  writer  ofOiKi^ia,  or  Xutshells,  by  Jose  Jfac   Packe,  a 

brichfayrr's  labourer^  178.'),   is  James  Feacock,  architect^ 

anfhor  of  l"i\tTaihni  l>y  As.'cnt,  17H3  ;  and  ** /jufntauHll 
,  j'or  Frrspevtice  JJrawiny^  I'hilos*.  Transactioiu^  17W, 
!       H.  l"i.>invi«  K. — The  passage  in  qnestion  r«r»^**jnujdo 

tpioquo  pavlu  emiarant  miseri,  viri,  mulieres,  mariti,**  See. 

.\077Ci:. 

I  We  \kz  loa^■c  to  ^tate  that  we  jlct-lfne  to  return  mmmniilcinMl 
vr)iK-h,tiir  any  reu^i^n,  wc  uu  not  priut{  and  to  tliu  rule  we  em  iimIm  ■• 
cviviition. 

All  (>()inmiinlcatIoTi^  nhnnld  be  addnM4Cd  to  the  Editor  at  the  Oflce. 

.  3,  NV'oHinKtiii.Strtvt.W.C. 

To  all  iHimmunication*  Hhoiild  Ik>  afflxe<l!the  name  and  adAranol 
I  the.  Hondcr,  not  necvHurily  for  imblication,  but  aiaeuarantco    ~ 
faith. 


•^  8.  IX.  Jak.  Xfl,  7>.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIEa 


49 


{.OSOOK,  BATVSDAr,  JANUAKr  30,  II 


CONTENTS.— »■  812. 
N(mW:-B)UUd  upon  Bif  71IUHn  DbtmimiI^  "  Cruelty 
U  tbc  Enuianll  in  Peru,"  IS  —  Numleon  on  Baud  ths 
Nonhiiinberluid.  GO  —  Sir  WillUia  ClBrke.  Cluphln  of 
lUnirtMT:  CWkofPeiinicDlck.M  — MDnlDecDimtlonii 
TtnnlnCbunb,!!  — BfllllnicriiiUDDii  — LudftrHMdiM 
—  Babid!  Folk  Lore  — Tliiitcr'i  Cry  — i'our  Chlldmn  mt 
■  Birth— An  old  Sano;  in  praiio  dI  Boaf  — Qeoige  III.'l 
VM%  t<iPorUmoDth.im  — LongsritTi  Un.  LmIMt  — 
A  ixDurkalilo  CtnitonarUD  ~  Uutin  Ouern^  or  Amauhl 
du  Thil  —  ^'l^w  Year's  Evo  Ciittom,  33. 
QirKKIBn ;  —  Ebauj  Portrutor  Louin  XVI..  M— Thomu 
mnl  — Jacob  KoUKiiiet  —  tiruaKnockon  —  Bftron  Bun- 
•ni  —  [>r.  fowko  -  Galileo  —  GibMu  Pimilr  —  An  Kngliah 
Mieoi  -  PsKlI  rami]*  -  Pomalfl)  wltb  Wl|n  — Knarr: 
Wrjilii  — "Till'  IjuIIis^  LiUnr7''-Napa1eoD  at  Elba  — 
tlrlHm**  PunclnalitT  -  Vavan  —  Quotatiniu  nntMl  —  Sir 
Waller  So.tt  -  Hmitiiib  Iron  UniH'jr  -  Tin  Site  of  a  Hnnk 
-Clav*  of  Shell-PiBb  -  «ii«»i  Qu'-ruw:  Tbn  I>uvil'H  Niit- 
(lii«  llH  —  "SMore  b;  uo  Bugn"  — TumuK  —  Uiiku  oT 
Wvllintttoa.  It. 
1IPU8S:  -  Ucbard  Harrtoon  Black,  LL.D.  (aiid  Jaiim 
Blaek].  6«  —  Mernhnli]  and  HonklnH, /A.— llooier  and 
Ml  Tnni-Utnn.  EiB~Caki!WT:  TbTackniortaii,  ie^  M  — 
RnalehH  «r  OKI  Tnnaa,  flt-PuWio  Ttaelii-n-Blna  Bji«d- 
iipH  —  Old  KiilinuatinU  PauUi  ~-  IVipiilation  of  London  in 
IMS  — Ikii.  John  r>oi.horomh  —  Bi_-v.  John  Hrjan— Walur 

■h(^t>r  -  •■  Tl™  Ifaiwar'i  Daiisbiur  of  Hcdiiall  Gmiii  "— 
Pb^-UaodkirtHiiah— I>path^i  Hand  Hultuiu  — Hubert 
Mntdra  —  WlKDian  of  Barbadeea  — AiiOld  Sonjt— Moii- 
tilt  Banm  — Or|>l»uago— Idttioo  Knollyi  —  Provincial 
OkMBiT,  Ac  K, 


from  a  scene  which  is  thiu  duBcribed  :n  the  stfigH 
directions : — 

"  X  doleful  parin,  ia  plaj'ed  to  prepare  ths  chanf;e  of 
the  Bccne,  which  repreKDta  a  duk  prison  at  a  ^nuit  dii- 
lancs ;  and  farther  to  the  view,  are  dieceraed  racks  and 
iither  enginiM  of  torture,  with  whicli  the  Spaniards  aro 
tormenting  Ihe  natives  and  English  marinerB,  who  maj- 
'je  eu|>[wjed  to  be  lately  landed  thero  \o  discover  tlie 
:out.  Two  Spaniards  are  Ilkowine  dijccvered  sittin;:  ill 
llicir  claakH,  and  appeariai*  niorti  aolemn  in  ruHa,  wiili 
rnjiicra  and  dagj^cn  bj  ttieir  aidcR;  the  one  turning  a 
npit.  while  the  other  is  lia-sling  an  Indian  prlncv,  who  ii 
routed  at  an  artificial  fire." 

I  miiv  add  thitt  the  followiiii!  ballad  is  proI>ably 
copied  'from  a  printed  broadside,  and  h  Tension  .If 
it  IS  civen,  with  a(ime8lif[htTsrialionit,in  the  iliirj 
viilunie  of  A  'Sebvt  OiUectuni  'if  Fuem»,  wilh  AVcj, 
1780.  p.  LW:— 


BALLAD  UPON  8[K  >V1LLIAM  DAVESANTS 
"CKLELTT  OF  THE  SHAMARUS  IN  PERU." 
Uj  friend  Mb.  Htok'b  notice  of  Davenant'a 
fintdramiLtic  attempts  to  amuse  the  public  duiiny- 
Un  peiioil  of  tha  Commonwealth  (4*  8.  *iii.  405) 
iBmiDda  me  of  a  ballad  whiefa  I  possess,  in  a  con- 
tompaniy  MS.,  illustrating  liis  second  essav — 
IV  Omdty  of  Ae  ^lamardt  in  Peru.  AccorJin^ 
to  the  title-paa«  of  the  first  edition,  4to,  1658,  it 
wu  "exTteat  by  Instrumental  and  Vocal  Musicli, 
tnd  by  the  Art  of  Pefapoctiva  in  Scenes,  &e.,  re- 
presented dw.lT  at  the  Cock-pit  in  l)rury-lane,  at 
three  in  the  altenioon  punctually."  At  the  end 
irftiie  book  is  this  advertisement:^ 

'  Kotwithitandlni;  the  great  expense  newuarv  ti 
•cmea  and  other  ornaments  in  this  entertainment,  thefts 
H  a  ftMd  pnvUon  maile  of  placea  for  a  thillii^,  and  tt 
iUI  bagia  cn-tainly  at  (An*  in  the  iTtemoon." 

John  Evelyn  tbns  speaks  of  this  piece  in  hi» 
DiMy:— 
•■  t  Hay,  16^-  I  went  to  vlait  my  bratber  in  Londun. 

—  ' It  daj  to  we  a  new  opera  after  the  Italian  **7  )" 

iiwq.  and  teeanea,  much  inferior  to  the  lulian 

and  ma^idcence :  but  it  was  jirodiciou*. 
tbna  ut  nch  pnblique  conatematioD,  nich  u 
lid  be  keot  Dp  or  pninilled.    I  being  engage:! 

,  ay,  could  not  deoantly  resist  the  going  to  see 

It,  ihsofh  my  heart  muU  ma  ftr  It." 

Tks  eouteniation  hen  alluded  to  was,  of  course, 
tk*  nontt  iaatb  of  OiamwaU.  We  get  a  good 
Mm  et  tha  itwtitiMl  •Aoti  of  thU  qwctule 


An<l  him  that  xiti  at  til'  hdm  : 
aud  hijapes, 


II  tell  yi 


.    _t  Willi! 
With  full  nianv  merry  jape 
niiK'li  after  the  nita  of  Jiihn  lia 
"This sight  is  to  bo xeen 
Xi'ar  the  street  tliut  is  oall'i 
And  ihe  people  have  call'd  the 
'■  -  ■'      '  viluke 


I  fall  the  days  i 


lylife 


1  foppery. 
"  Where  flrst  one  begins 
With  a  trip  and  a  cringe, 
And  a  i»cts  set  in  slarcli  to  accmt  'ym  ; 
Ave.  and  with  a  speech  to  boot 
•  That  bad  neither  lieail  nor  fool 
Jl  i^tit  hare  scrv'd  for  a  Ctiartcrhousc  niCrH 
"Oh,  he  look'd  so  like  a  Jew, 
Would  have  made  a  man  spew, 
When  he  told  them  here  was  this,  here  was 
.lust  Uke  him  that 


in  the  s 


Neither  must  I  here  forget 

The  muaie,  how  it  was  set, 

E  two  ayres  and  a  half,  and  a  Jove  [«>] 

And  the  rait  was  such  a  gig 

Like  the  snueaking  of  a  pig, 
■.alLt  when  they're  making  their  love. 

The  next  thing  was  the  scone. 


Uut  no  m 
Witl 


rs  when 


nPenij 


i  bloody  bone«. 
But  the  devil  a  word  tliat  was  true. 
"  There  raii(ht  you  have  seen  an  ape 
With  biifellow  for  to  gape, 
Now  dancing  and  tniiJng  o'er  and  o'er. 
What  cannot  poets  do  P 
They  can  find  out  in  Peru 
Thingi  no  man  ever  saw  before. 
"  Then  presently  the  Spaniard 
Struts  with  his  wlnyard. 
Now  heaven  of  thy  mercy  how  grim  ! 

Who'd  have  thought  that  Christian  men 
Would  have  eat  up  Children. 
Had  ha  not  ann  thim  do  it  limb  by  limb  ! 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


li*^  &  IX.  Jah.  20»  '73. 


"  Oh,  greater  cruelty  yet ! 

Like  a  pig  upon  a  spit, 
Here  lies  one.  there  another  boil'd  to  a  jelly  ; 

Just  80  the  people  Ktare 

At  an  ox  in  the  fair 
Roasted  whole,  with  a  pudding  in's  belly. 

"  I  durst  have  laid  my  he;id 
That  tho  King  there  had  been  dead, 

When  I  saw  how  they  basted  and  carved  him  ; 
Had  he  not  come  up  again 
Upon  the  stago,  there  to  complain 

How  scurv'ily  the  rogues  had  serv'd  him. 

"  A  little  furthitr  in 

Hung  a  third  by  the  chin, 
And  a  fourth  cut  out  all  in  quarters  ; 

Oh,  that  Fox  had  now  been  living, 

Thev  had  been  sure  of  heaven, 
Or  at  the  least  been  some  of  his  martyrt*. 

**  But,  which  was  strange  again. 

The  Indians  that  they  had  slain 
Camo  dancing  all  in  a  troop ;        * 

I  Jut,  oh,  give  me  the  last. 

For  as  often  us  lu:  pass'd. 
He  btill  tumbled  like  a  dog  in  a  hoop. 

*'  And  now,  my  Signior  Struggc, 

In  good  faith  you  may  go  jugge. 
For  Sir  William  will  have  something  to  brag  on  ; 

Oh,  the  Flnglish  boys  arc  come 

With  their  fife  and  their  drum. 
And  still  the  Knight  must  conquer  the  Dragon. 

**  An<l  so  now  my  story  is  done, 

And  Fll  end  as  I  l>eguii, 
With  a  word,  and  I  care  not  who  know  it ; 

Heaven  keep  us,  great  and  small. 

And  bless  u.s  some  and  all. 
From  every  such  pitiful  poet  I  "  ^ 

KdWAIU)  V,  lIlMIlArLT. 


\ArOLEON  0\  HOARD  THE  NOKTlirMBER- 

LAND.* 

**  He  would  not  give  any  opinion  whatever  i>f 
Mr.  Pitt :  '  He  had  never  known  him.'  1  returned 
to  the  charge,  saying  I  meant  what  did  he  think 
of  lii8  political  prmciples  ?  but  ho  would  not  utter 
a  word  on  the  subject.  I  think  ho  repeated,  *  I 
never  was  acquainted  with  him.*  On  my  men- 
tioning Mr.  Windham,  he  inquired  whether  I 
meant  him  who  had  been  minister  of  war  ?  and 
on  my  answering  in  tho  affirmative,  he  described 
him  as  a  man  of  great  talents,  but  who  had  been 
vert/  much  his  enemi/y  or  nearly  these  wordn.  I 
said  Mr.  Windham  was  a  BurJdtCy  to  which  hi; 
assented,  and  hj  wo  dropped  the  .subject.  Tho 
flotilla,  he  said,  had  been  only  a  feint.  lie  did 
intend  to  have  attempted  an  invasion  with  his 
^eat  ships,  his  Escadres  from  Hrest  and  Ferrol. 
I  forget  when  it  was  that  he  said,  shaking  his 
head  and  swaiggering  a  little,  *  Je  ne  dis  pas  que 
ce  ne  me  soit  pas  pass^  par  la  tete  de  conspirer  la 
perte  de  I'Angleterre.  Eh !  pendant  vingt  anndes 
de  guerre ! '  Then,  suddenly  checking  himself 
as  if  he  had  spoken  his  mind  too  freely,  '  C'est- 

*  Ck)ncluded  from  p.  31. 


a-dire,  votre  perte,  non!  mus  votre 
ment ;  je  voulois  vous  forcer  k  etre  justes,  oa  da 
moins,  moins  injustes.'  He  defended  his  oontir 
nental  system,  as  though  it  had  been  proToked  bj 
our  orders  in  counciL  I  reminded  him  that  the 
Berlin  and  Milan  decrees  were  antecedent  to 
those  orders.  He  said,  '  But  Lord  Grey's  blockade 
of  the  Elbe  and  .Weser  had  preceded  them.'  I 
was  preparing  an  answer,  I  belieye,  to  this,  when 
he  gave  the  discussion  another  turn  by  saying 
that,  however,  it  was  all  our  fault  for  not  having 
made  peace  when  Lord  Lauderdale  was  at  Paris. 
That  was  prior  to  the  battle  of  Jena,  to  which 
the  Berlin  and  Milan  decrees  were  unquestion- 
ably subsequent.  Had  we  made  peace  then  there 
would  have  been  no  war  with  Prussia^  &c.  I 
iisked  him  what  he  thought  of  tho  Russian 
admiral  TchitchagofT?  He  replied  that  he  was  a 
clever  fellow,  but  not  a  good  general.  L.  'Bat 
at  the  passage  of  the  Beresina  he  had  not  a  soffi* 
cient  iorce  to  stop  you ;  24,000  men,  of  whom 
S,<)0()  were  cavalr}',  and  useless  in  such  a  position.' 
lie  began  upon  this  to  describe  his  operations 
rather  technically,  which  I  not  understanding,  I 
took  the  opportunity  of  preventing  his  going  oa  ' 
in  that  stram,  and  observed  to  him  that  Kutusoff 
had  undoubtedly  not  sent  sufficient  force  to  that 
point,  since  TchitchagofF  might  have  been  ove^ 
whelmed  by  Schwartzenberg*s  army  alone  if,  for 
reasons  best  known  to  himself,  SchwartKenoeq; 
had  not  thought  lit  to  abstain  from  attaddnff  hhn. 
B.  ^  Ah ! '  shaking  his  head  and  smiling  sigmfi- 
cantly,  ^  ils  s'entendoient  d^ja.'  Speaking  ofBel- 
gium,  he  admitted  that  it  was  our  policy  to  fortii^ 
it,  &c. ;  and  when  I  told  him  I  thought  we  might 
nerhaps  have  allowed  France  the  possession  of 
Belgium  if  we  could  have  preyented  Antwerp 
from  falling  into  her  hands,  he  said  that  Antwerp 
was  the  port  which  most  threatened  EnghmiL 
He  considered  our  present  position  as  a  yery  com- 
manding one.  It  had,  however,  its  disadvantages 
if  wo  were  ^  dans  la  premiere  ligne  de  guerre,' 
and  entitled  to  take  a  leading  part  in  whatever 
was  doing  in  Europe.  On  the  other  hand,  not  a 
shot  could  be  fired  an^here  that  might  not  give 
us  cause  of  war,  and  mvolve  us  in  a  quarrel  It 
was,  I  think,  in  one  part  of  his  argument  asunst 
us  for  our  present  treatment  of  him  that  I  mtro- 
duced  cautiously,  and  with  as  much  delicacy  as 
I  could,  the  battle  of  Waterloo,  of  which  I  said 
the  issue  was  (as  it  might  truly  be  stated  withoat 
oifence  to  him)  three  or  four  times  doubtfoL  I 
then  asked  him  what  he  thought  of  the  British 
infantry?  B.  (looking  more  grave  and  serrous 
than  usual)  '  L'infanterie  angloise  est  trds-bonnA' 
L.  (in  a  subdued  tone)  '  Belativement  k  la 
fran^oise  ?  '  B. '  L'infanterie  fnm^ise  est  aussi 
bonne.'  L.  'A  la  bai'onnetteP'  B. ' L'in&nterie 
fran^oise  est  aussi  bonne  k  la  baifonnette.  Bean- 
coup  ddpeud  de  la  conduite.'    Im  *  Le  corps  da 


4t»»  S.  IX.  Jan.  20,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


51 


g^nie  ?    rartillerie  ?  ■     B.  ^  Tout  cela  est  bou, 
tres-bon ! '     L.  ^  C'est  a  vous,  Monsieur  le  General, 
que  nous  devons  nos  progr^s  dans  I'art  de  la 
euerre.V    B.  ^Eh !  on  ne  pent  fairs  la  guerre  sans 
devenir  soldat,  Thistoire  de  tous  les  pays  prouve 
cela.'    Early  in  the  conversation  I  had  said  1 
boped  be  was  satisfied  with  the  permission  given 
to  so  many  officers  to  accompany  bim  to   St. 
Helena.    He  replied,  with  a  slight  sbrug,  *  Three 
or  four  of  them.'    St.  Helena  he  called  *  une  ile 
de  fer,  d*ou  il  ne  seroit  pas  possible  de  s'^vader ; ' 
and  complained  of  its  climate  as  unwholesome.    P 
denied  tne  unwholesomeness  of  the  climate,  and 
assured  him  I  knew  the  contrary,  not  only  from 
books,  but  from  the  report  of  several  people  who 
bad  been  in  the  island.     When  first  he  mentioned 
St.  Helena  there  was  a  great  noise  upon  deck, 
and  I  beard  bim  indistinctly,  and  thougnt  he  was 
speaking  of  England.    This  occasioned  my  saying, 
'Sir,  you  must  recollect  that  many  of  your  officers 
have  effected  their  escape  (se  iont  ivad^s) ;  for 
instance,  Lef^vre  Desnouett^,'  but  when  I  found 
my  mistake  I  pursued  that  subject  no  further, 
and  apologised,  I  think,  for  having  introduced  it. 
"The  state  of  France,  he  said,  was  such  as  might 
be  expected  in  a  country  in  which  you  were  at- 
temptmg  *  imposer  un  roi  par  une  force  ^trangere.' 
The  Bourbons,  in    his  opinion,    would    hardly 
attempt  to  revive  the  slave  trade.    It  was  im- 
politic, and  besides,  '  chose  tres-inhumaine.'     I 
asked  him  if  he  had  read  Sismondi's  JSssay  ?  to 
which  I  could  not  collect  his  answer.     His  ge- 
neral reasons  against  the  slave  trade  as  a  measure 
of  policy  were — that,  supposing  it  were  advisable 
to  import  Begroes  into  the  colonies  (which,  how- 
ever, ne  denied),  it  could  only  be  done  at  a  great 
expence,  and  that  the  moment  war  broke  out  we 
should  probably  take  the  French  islands,  and  that 
French  capital  was  more  wanted  now  in  the  in- 
terior of  the  kingdom,  where  it  was  on  all  accounts 
better  to  employ  it.    We  finished  bv  talking  of 
chemistry,  to  which  we  were  led  by  his  asserting 
that  France  was  flourishing  not  only  in  agricul- 
ture (which  was  admitted)  but  in  manufactures 
(from  which  I  dissented,  and  instanced  Lyons, 
without,  however,  obtaining  any  concession  from 
him);  and,  finally,  although  her  commerce  had 
undoubtedly  suffered,  her  internal  resources  sufficed, 
md  that  chemical  discoveries  had  supplied  many 
things  that  foreign  commerce   used  to  furnish  : 
as,  for  instance,  sugar  from  beet-root,  which  he 
said  was  very  good,  and  sold  for  fifteen  pence  a 
pound — ^much  cheaper  than  the  foreign,  on  which 
he  laid  a  heavy  tax  that  would  in  time  of  peace 
yield  a  tolerable  resource,  as  the  rich  would  after 
all  prefer  the  true  sugar,  and  he  should  in  the 
mean  time  be  encouraging  his  home  manufac- 
tures. 

''He  talked  ea^ly  on  this  subject :  said  they 
were  maldng  indigo  from  woad  (pasteT),  and  that 


there  was  an  old  law  of  Henry  the  IVth  forbid- 
ding the  importation  of  indigo,  which  he  either 
had  or  intended  to  revive.  In  England,  he  said, 
we  had  as  much  chemistry,  *  a  la  tete  de  Tln- 
stitut,'  but  that  it  was  not  so  popularly  diffused 
or  so  practically  useful  as  in  France.  Sir  H. 
Davy  he  remembered,  but  gave  no  opinion  of  him. 
All  the  time  that  we  were  thus  conversing  he 
remained  standing  on  the  spot  where  he  had  first 
halted  with  me,  near  the  poop,  and  facing  it.  It 
is  obvious  that  it  was  his  wish  to  continue  the 
conversation,  since  there  were  people  enough  upon 
deck,  among  others  people  of  his  own  train,  to 
whom  he  might  have  turned  aside  if  he  had 
chosen  it  He  quitted  us  at  last  with  great 
abruptness,  looking  suddenly  up  to  the  sky,  and 
saying,  *  H  me  semble  (ju'il  fait  un  pen  frais,*  after 
which  he  tripped  straight  off  into  the  cabin  on 
tip-toe,  with  a  mincing  step  and  a  slight  shrug. 
We  stared,  and  had  some  difficulty  in  refraining 
from  laughter. 

"During  the  whole  of  these  conversations, 
which  lasted  altogether  not  less  than  two  hours, 
Bonaparte  never  appeared  for  a  moment  to  lose 
his  temper  or  to  be  in  any  degree  indecently  if  at 
all  agitated.  His  expressions  were  often  strong,  but 
were  calmly  utterea ;  his  voice  was  scarcely  ever 
elevated  ;  his  countenance  composed,  and  he  ges- 
ticulated very  little  indeed,  much  less  than  French- 
men or  Italians  generally  do.  In  short,  there 
was  nothing  in  his  manner  that  indicated  passion 
or  dejection.  He  seemed  to  be  perfectly  collected, 
and  talked  as  freely  upon  tnfles  as  upon  the 
greater  questions  of  politics  connected  with  his 
history,  or  the  points  that  peculiarly  related  to 
his  present  condition.  Nay,  more,  his  style  was 
remarkably  lively ;  he  always  made  very  plea- 
sant play,  and  I  should  imagine  it  impossible  not 
to  admire  his  quickness,  adroitness,  and  originality, 
and  the  excellent  command  of  temper  that  accom- 
panied these  spirited  and  agreeable  qualities. 
He  was,  as  I  suppose  I  have  already  sufficiently 
shovim,  by  no  means  coarse  or  imcivil,  but,  on 
the  other  hand,  neither  did  he  use  much  form  or 
ceremony ;  and  I  observed  that  he  never  once 
said  Monsieur  to  me,  or  Milord  to  Lord  Lowther. 
He  gave  us  no  appellation  of  courtesy  whatever.*' 


SIR  WILLIAM  CLERKE,  CHAPLAIN  OF  BANFF 
1547 :  CLERK  OF  PENNYCUICK. 

There  existed  in  the  royal  burgh  of  Banff,  dur- 
ing the  fourteenth  and  fifteenth  centuries,  a  gram- 
mar school  or  schools  of  considerable  impoi-tance, 
and  as  the  town  was  inhabited  by  persons  of  rank 
and  wealth,  it  may  reasonably  be  supposed  that 
the  teachers  were  carefully  selected,  and  fully 
qualified  for  their  situations. 

On  March  6,  1547,  the  important  office  was 
held  by  an  ecclesiastic  of  the  name  of  Gierke  or 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


I4»k  S.  IX.  Jah.  «).•??. 


Clerk,  whose  salary  was  then  lixed  at  livo  merks 
by  the  pi"()vo«t  and  inagistratftfl,  payable  lialf- 
yearly — at  AVhitsundny  and  Martinmas.  Tho 
liferent  grant  was  to  the  **  venerable  "  man,  Sir 
William  Gierke,  Chaplain  of  Banft* — "Pro  erigen- 
dis  et  docendis  per  eum  scolis  gramaticalibus  con- 
tinue in  dicta  urbe  de  Jiantf."  The  deed  was 
witnensed,  amongst  others,  by  Patrick  Grantully, 
Ilector  of  Glass,  a  neighbouring  parish  ;  Andrew 
Anderson,  Curate  of  Banllj  and  the  Members  of 
the  town  council.  Its  duo  execution  is  certified 
by  Thomas  Walters,  "  Presbyter  Aberdoniensis 
diocesis,  publicus  papalis,  imperinlis,  ct  regius 
notarius." 

The  name  of  Gierke  or  Clerk  frequently  occurs 
among  the  Banff  muniments.  From  one  of  them 
it  appears  that  John  Clerk,  a  burgess  of  the  royal 
burgh,  was  owner  of  certain  tenements  there, 
which  he  sold  to  Patrick  Duncan,  a  fellow-bur- 
gess. These  subjects  were  bounded  on  the  north 
by  the  lands  of  Robert  Berclai  (Berkeley),  those  of 
William  Strach  (Strachan)  on  the  south,  the  lands 
of  Alexander  Abercrombie  on  the  east,  and  from 
thence  ascending  "  usque  ad  Ic  Corsgate  ''  on  the 
west.    This  was  evidently  the  Crossgate. 

Clerk  mentions  in  the  testing  clause  that,  not 
haviii^  a  ''proper"  seal  of  his  own,  Archibald 
Lyddale  and  James  Bard,  baillies  of  Banif,  ap- 
pended their  seals  for  him.  Tho  tag  only  remains 
of  the  seal  of  tho  former,  but  the  seal  of  Bard  or 
Baird  is  entire  and  well  preserved.  There  is  no 
date  to  this  deed,  but,  judging  from  tho  caligra- 
phy,  it  was  written  before  1500.  Baird  was  a 
vassal  in  the  lands  of  OrdenhuHis,  in  the  county 
of  Banff,  held  then  of  the  Gordons  of  Iluntly. 

Various  writings  prove  that  Sir  William  Clerke 
was  a  man  of  substance.  In  several  title-deeds 
reference  is  made  to  his  tenements  ns  bound- 
aries. John  Clerke,  who  sold  his  possessions  to 
Duncan,  was  perhaps  his  father  or  gnuidfathor.  It 
would  be  interesting  to  know  something  more 
about  the  venerable  schoolmaster  of  J3nnll',  to 
whose  supervision  the  education  of  tho  youth  of 
the  district  had  been  entrusted.  The  Clorks  of 
Pennycuick,  in  tlio  county  of  Midlothian,  aro  sup- 
posed to  have  come  from  Forfarshire.  May  they 
not  have  had  somo  connection  with  tho  ^Iiire  of 
]5nnff  ?  They  were  originally  traders  in  Montroso, 
and  settled  in  Edinburgh  during  the  perilous  days 
of  Charles  I.,  when  one  of  them,  a  burgoss  of 
Edinburgh,  acquired  the  estate  of  Pennycuick 
from  the  ancient  family  of  that  name. 

One  of  the  family,  conjectured  to  have  been 
William,  the  third  son  of  the  first  baronet  who 
got  the  title  from  Charles  II.  in  l(J78-0,  w^as  in 
1602  a  member  of  tho  Facultv  of  Advocates,  and 
the  author  of  a  comedy  entitled  Marcimwy  which 
possesses  great  merit.  One  of  the  songs  intro- 
duced in  it  might  be  accepted  as  the  production  of 
Carew  or  Herrick.     It  was  acted  before  the  Lord 


H  igh  C<  )m  missioner  Middlet<  m  by  a  party  of  priYtte 
gentlemen :  this  at  least  is  statea  on  the  title  of 
the  play,  which  was  published  in  Edinburgh  and, 
with  the  exception  of  Tarngo's  Wiies  (hy  St  Sttrfeor 
Sidserfe),  is  the  only  drama  written  by  a  Scotsmm 
during  the  latter  part  of  the  seventeenth  cenhur, 
Crawford's  two  comedies  properly  belonging  to  tne 
beginning  of  the  succeeding  one.*  J,  M. 


MUILVL  DECORATIONS :   TRKVALGA  CHUBCH. 

A  few  weeks  ago  I  visited  the  ancient  ohurek  of 
Trevalga  in  the  deanery  of  Trigg  Minor,  Gom- 
wnll.  On  the  north  side  of  the  chancel  is  a  na^ 
chapel,  11  ft.  by  10  ft,  of  the  first  pointed  period. 
It  is  now  in  a  sad  condition  of  repair,  tboagh  na- 
touched  materially  since  the  date  of  its  election. 
It  is  lighted  by  an  elegant  double  lanoet  in  tbe 
east,  and  by  a  single  lancet  in  the  north  wall 
In  the  angle  on  the  south  side  is  a  small  round- 
headed  piscina,  and  at  the  angle  of  the  splay  of 
the  eastern  window  is  a  large  bracket,  on  wmdi 
formerly  stood  the  image  of  the  saint  to  whom 
the  church  is  dedicated.  There  remains  also  what 
appears  to  bo  a  fragment  of  a  ledge  in  the 
window  sill,  whicrh  would  lead  one  to  sappoee  it 
was  a  portion  of  tho  altar  slab,  except  that  an 
examination  on  the  out«dde  shows  that  the  win- 
dow has  been  walled  up  about  a  foot  above  iti 
original  base. 

My  present  design,  however,  is  to  call  attantioa 
to  another  object  in  this  interesting  chapel,  wluch 
is  perhaps  unique,  at  least  in  ComwalL  Observ- 
ing that  a  small  part  of  the  whitewash  on  tiie 
walls  had  been  peeled  away,  showing  eolonriag 
xmderneath,  tlie  rector,  the  Rev.  W.  P.  Roberts, 
courteously  gave  me  permission  to  examine  it 
further ;  and  finding  that  the  whitewash  of  am 
was  easily  separated  from  the  walls  in  large  thwk 
flakes,  with  the  aid  of  a  long  screwdriver  I  sooa 
stripped  ofi'  sullicient  to  disclose  the  whole  design 
of  the  ornamentation.  It  is,  I  consider,  coeval 
with  the  building,  and  the  colours  are  as  hnjM 
as  when  laid  on  some  six  hundred  years  ago.  The 
design  is  executed  in  fresco,  and  is  very  simple 
and  effective.  The  nrchea  of  the  windows  are 
painted  in  masonry,  in  Indian  red  and  bright 
orange,  the  divisions  being  white,  jointed  with 
black  lines.  This  ornamentation  of  the  aiches  is 
supported  by  columns,  painted  at  the  anvles  in 
red  lines,  with  an  orange  capital  foliat^  vritii 
black  lines.  The  eastern  window  is  farther  en- 
riched by  a  foliated  coronal  in  red.  The  walls 
are  ornamented  throughout  their  whole  surface  in 
masonry  with  red  linos — the  horixontal  lines  being 
single,  and  the  perpendicular  double ;  whilst  the 
divisions  are  enriched,  alternately,  by  red  scroU- 
work  and  black  cinquefoils.  l^e  head  of  the 
east  window  is  decorated  vrith  a  qnatrefbil  vritiixn 
a  striped  border  of  bbiok,  white,  and  orange.  Tfee 


4«»»  a  IX.  Jan.  20,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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whole  surface  of  the  walla  is  of  a  pale  j^n'  col(»iir. 
The  church,  which  ia  in  a  \ery  dilapidated  con- 
dition, is  about  to  be  restored  as  soon  as  funds 
for  the  purpose  can  be  obtained,  under  the  direc- 
tion of  Mr.  St.  Aubyn,  the  architect ;  and  it  is  to 
be  hoped  that  careful  tracings  will  be  made  of 
this  ancient  and  interesting  work  of  art,  with  a 
view  to  its  being  replaced  in  the  restored  chapel. 

John  Maclean. 

Ilamraersmith. 


BsLL  Inscriptions. — The  following  inscriptions 
are  to  be  found  on  five  good  bells  at  Passenham, 
ca  Northampton :  — 

1.  '^  Sancta  Maria  ora  pra nobis''  (in  Old  Eng- 
lish letters). 

2.  "  Richard  Chandler  made  me,  1711." 

3.  «  Bartholomew  Alton  made  me,  B.  A\  1G24." 

4.   "  A  +  TRV8TY  +  FRENDE  +  TS  +  HARDE  +  TO  + 
FTKDE  + 1585." 

5.  The  tenor  is  very  large  and  good :  — 

«  This  Bell,  the  gift  of  S*"  Robert  Banistre  in  1635,  was 
lecast  at  the  expense  of  Charles  Viscount  Maynard  and 
Hub  Pariahionere,  1817.  Rev.  Loraine  Smith,  rector; 
John  Clare,  John  Clark,  C.  W.  John  Briant,  Hertford, 
fecit.    Gloria  Deo  in  excelnis." 

D.  C.  E. 
South  Berated. 

Lucifer  Matches. — As  the  following  news- 
paper cutting  relates  to  a  most  useful  modern 
invention,  I  send  it  to  you.  Pray  give  it  a  corner 
in  '•  N.  &  Q.»  What  would  the  civiHsed  world 
do  (not  forgetting  the  readers  of  your  valuable 
r,  these  dark  mornings  and  still  darker  even- 
i)y  if  luoifer  matches,  and  how  to  make  them, 
quite  forgotten  ? 

•  IWYKHTioN  OF  LuciFEB  MATCHB8.~Tbe  invention 
of  hiciftr  matches  was  dae,  it  seems,  to  the  devotion  of  a 
jrwng  ehemlst  to  bis  sCndiea.  Mr.  Isaac  Ilolden,  in  his 
•▼ideiice  before  the  Patent  Committee  in  England,  says 
that  h«  had  to  rise  at  four  in  the  morning  to  begin  study, 
and  that  he  found  it  ver>'  tedious  and  troublesome  to 
obtain  a  light  by  the  then  onlinan'  mothml  with  tinder, 
flint,  and  steel,  lie  tells  ua  that  he,  like  other  chemiflt<), 
knaw  the  explosive  material  that  was  necessary  in  order 
to  produce  instantaneous  light ;  but  it  was  very  difficult 
t»  ewununicate  light  from  that  explosive  material  to 
wood.  In  a  fortunate  moment,  the  idea  occurred  to  him 
nf  placing  sulphur  next  to  the  wood.  This  he  did,  and 
showed  the  process  in  the  lectures  which  he  was  delivcr- 
iag  al  the  time  before  a  large  academy.  Among  the 
aMitnoe  was  the  son  of  a  London  chemist,  who  wrote  to 
his  father  about  it;  and  within  a  short  time  afterward 
lodfer  matches  became  known  to  the  world  at  large." 

K.  W.  H.  N. 
Dublin. 

Babies  :  Folk  Lore. — On  a  nurse  taking  out  a 
biby  for  the  first  time  to  show  it  to  different. 
Criendg,  the  one  upon  whom  the  first  call  is  made 
shoold  give  it  a  little  flour  and  a  little  salt,  each 
wrapped  in  paper;  an  egg,  and  a  sixpence,  or  any 
fliWr  emu  t  eo  that  the  child,  in  its  future  career, 


may  nover  want  money  or  food  or  its  necessary 
seasoning.  (J.  T.  \). 

Hudderslield. 

Tinker's  Cry. — Would  the  following,  which  I 
have  heard"  from  my  father  many  years  ago,  be  of 
sulficient  interest  for  the  readers  of  "  N.  &Q.'\^ — 

"  Work  for  the  tinker,  0  [or  all  ?]  good  wives ! 
For  we  are  men  of  metal ; 
T'were  well  if  you  could  mend  your  lives, 
As  we  can  mend  a  kettle." 

T.  W.  WUBB. 

FoTJR  Children  at  a  Bibth.— -Inscription  on 
a  tombstone  in  the  churchyard  at  Seaton,  Devon- 
shire : — 

"  Here  lycth  ye  Bodys  of  John,  and  Rich<>,  and  Edward, 
sons  of  John  Roberts  and  £li2^  liis  wife,  together  with 
a  D^  of  the  same  Parsons,  borne  at  one  Berth.  They 
died  y*  9  Day  of  September,  and  was  buryed  y  17  day 
of  September,  Anno  Dom.  1094." 

W.  C.  Trevkltan. 

Seaton,  Axminster. 

An  old  Song  in  fraiss  of  Beef. — I  happened 

to  hear  a  lady  repeat  the  following  linea  lately, 

which  she  said  she  had  committed  to  memory 

over  sixty  years  ago.    I  asked  her  to  write  them 

out  for  me,  as  I  thought  they  were  worth  a  comer 

in  "  N.  &  Q."     She  kindly  complied  with  m^ 

request,  but  could  tell  me  nothing  as  to  their 

authorship,  &c. : — 

"  Qaeen  Bess  once  fed  three  men  for  a  year. 
On  different  kinds  of  food, 
To  see  which  might  the  best  appear. 
To  do  a  Briton  good. 

"  The  first  was  fed  upon  veal,  sir ; 
The  second  was  fed  upon  mutton; 
The  third  was  fed  upon  good  roast  beef. 
And  gormandised  like  a  glutton. 

"  When  brought  to  answer  the  queen's  appeal. 
On  what  they'd  been  licensed  to  guttle. 
The  first  replied,  *  Jtfem,  I*vc  dined  upon  veal,' 
T'other,  •  Mnttley  sir,  mnttlef  sir,  muttle.^ 

"  Says  the  queen,  *  These  for  soldiers  of  Britain  won'f  «]<», 
For  I  swear  by  my  majest3''8  wonl, 
Tlte  iirst  would  make  good  mon-milliners. 
The  second  —  tailors,  good  lord.' 

**  The  third  ho  cime  to  be  questioned  in  kind. 
When  as  loud  &s  he  could  bawl. 
When  asked  by  the  mayor  on  what  he  had  dined. 
Cried  *  Beef,' and  be  damned  to  you  all.' 

Queen  Bess  she  gave  him  her  fist  with  a  smile. 

And  swore  it  was  her  belief. 
The  devil  himself  could  not  conquer  this  isle 

While  Britons  were  fed  upon  beef.'* 

R.  W.  H.  Nash,  B.A. 

Dublin. 


C( 


George  III.'s  Visit  to  Portsmouth,  1773. — 
The  following  extract  from  a  newspaper  of  the 
time  of  George  III.'s  visit  to  Portsmouth,  nearly 
one  hundred  years  since,  is  worthy  of  preserva- 
tion. His  majesty's  admiration  of  the  Isle  of 
Wight  islnot  surprinn^,*  as  his  granddaughter 
was  equally  struck  witli  its  beauties ;  so  much  so. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«»»  S.  IX,  Jasi.  ^  72. 


that  she  has  made  it  one  of  ht^r  most  favouri^d 
residences. 

His  majesty's  preference  of  taking  liis  dinner  in 
his  pocket  to  dinmg  on  board  the  Barfleur,  rather 
than  not  sail  round  the  island,  is  an  amusing 
instance  of  the  king*s  homely  habits.  There  does 
not  seem  any  reasonable  doubt  of  tlio  anecdote 
being  quite  authentic  :  — 

**  Extract  of  a  Letter  from  Portsmouth^  June  24,  1773. 

**  On  Tuesday  his  majesty  went  on  board  the  Barduur 

at  three  o'clock,  dined,  and  sailed  round  the  fleet  in  the 

afternoon,  when  he  was  saluted  with  twenty-one  tires 

from  each  of  the  ships ;  he    returned  to  dock  in  the 

Augusta  yacht  about  eight  in  the  evening:.    Part  of  the 

company  in  town  went  to  the  theatre.    The  next  day,  at 

two^  his  majesty  went  on  board  the  Barfieur  again,  when 

five  of  the  ships  were  dressed  in  the  colours  of  all  nations. 

His  majesty  sailed  along-side  the  Isle  of  Wight  shore  a 

considerable  way  up  ;  at  nine  the  Augusta  dropped  her 

anchor  off  the  Castle  of  South  Sea,  and  the  king  returned 

to  the  dock  in  a    barge.    The  sea  from  the  harbour's 

mouth  was  covered  with  an  infinite  number  of  ships  and 

sailing-boats.    The  firing  has  an  admirable  effect  when 

looked   at  from  shore.    They  say  the  Duke  d'Aguillon 

(the  French  Prime  Minister),  the  Duke  de  Lausun,  and 

Count  Guignes  are  here.    This  morning  his  majesty  has 

been  to  Weovil  to  see  the  brewhouse ;  he  has  held  his 

levee  at  the  governor's  bouse,  and  if  the  rain  subsides, 

will  go  round  the  walls  on  foot  to  view  the  fortifications ; 

he  does  not  return  to  London  till  to-morrow  evening. 

"The  king,  while  he  viewed  the  dockyard  of  Ports- 
mouth on  'Diursday  morning,  declared  he  never  spent 
two  such  happy  days  in  his  life  as  Tuesday  and  Wed- 
nesday. He  was  so  struck  with  the  beautiful  appear- 
ance of  the  Isle  of  Wight,  that  he  asked  one  of  the 
admirals  present  at  the  review  of  the  invalids  on  Thursday 
morning,  if  he  could  not  go  round  it  that  day  V  On  re- 
ceiving for  answer,  *  that  it  would  be  impossible  if  he 
dined  on  board  the  Barfleur,'  he  replied,  ne  WDuld  take 
his  dinner  in  his  pocket  sooner  than  not  see  the  whole 
coast  of  80  fertile  an  island." 

J.  M. 

LoNGEViTT :  Mrs.  Lenfesty. — On  referring  to 
"N.  &  Q."  (4»«»  S.  vii.  .'i68),  an  account  wUl  be 
found  of  two  centenarians,  aunt  and  niece,  of  the 
same  name.  It  may  not  be  uninteresting  to  those 
who  feel  a  curiosity  on  the  subject  of  longevity  to 
know  that  the  latter  of  the  two,  Mrs.  Lenfesty, 
nie  De  Beaucamp,  died  at  four  o'clock  p.m.  Thurs- 
day, Dec.  14,  1871.  She  was  bom  on  Novem- 
ber 29,  1770 ;  and  had,  consequently,  reached  the 
advanced  age  of  one  hundred  and  one  years  and 
fifteen  days.  On  her  last  birthday  she  was  in  per- 
fect health,  and  in  possession  of  all  her  faculties. 
The  proximate  cause  of  her  death  seems  to  have 
been  the  extreme  cold  which  prevailed  about  the 
beginning  of  December. 

EDeAK  Mac  CuLLOcn. 

Guernsey. 

A    REMARKABLE   CENTENARIAN. — At  p.  224  of  I 

his  recently  published  ItecoUections  of  past  Lifvj 
Sir  Henry  Holland  says,  in  talking  of  Sir  George  ' 
Lewis's  views  on  longevity,  "  I  have  myself  since 
seen  a  person,  still  living,  who  numbers  106  years 


well  attested  by  documentary  proofia.''  It  would 
be  interesting  if  the  facts  of  this  remoikable  OHe, 
vouched  for  by  so  high  an  authority,  were  pub- 
lished in  ^'  N.  &  Q.''  and  properiy  authentittted. 

w.  a  p. 

[We  have  reason  to  know  that  this  is  the  case  of  thi 
so-called  Captain  Lahrbush.  Sir  Heoiy  Holland  has  ob- 
vioasly  never  seen  the  exposure  of  this  caae  in  Tht 
Standard  of  April  11, 1870.  See  also  "  N.  A  Q."  4*  8. 
viu.  367.] 

Martin  Guerre,  or  Arnattld  bu  Thilw— I 
think  this  French  case  is  sti^pLnffer  than  that  mfln- 
tioned  by  Mr.  King  (4^  S.  viii.  615),  and  is  to 
be  seen  in  the  VaricUs  higtoriques  et  liU^rairet,jm 
JOdouard  Foumier,  tome  viii.  Paris,  1857.  '(ym 
Ilidoire  admirable  (Tun  faux  et  swpposi  JUor^  otf- 
venite  en  Langttedoc  Van  1600.      J.  MacDokald. 

New  Year's  Eve  Custoic.  —  At  Chicherter, 
shortly  before  midnight  on  New  Year's  Efc,  a 
band  of  musicians  assembles  in  the  South  Stroat 
to  perform  religious  music,  and  as  the  dock  fltrikM 
twelve  the  musicians  playing  loyal  airs,  and  along 
following  of  the  citizens,  march  three  times  io 
procession  round  the  City  Gross,  the  younger  folk 
often  dancing  to  the  livelier  tunes. 

Mackenzie  E.  C.  Walcott,  B.D.,  F.SJL 


^ViSXiti. 


EBONY  PORTRAIT  OF  LOUIS  XVI. 

1  have  in  my  possession  a  piece  of  ebonr  alnut 
two  inches  high.  It  is  shaped  somewhat  lUn  sn 
urn,  and  has  been  apparently  turned  in  n  latha 
On  holding  it  to  the  light  and  looking  along  U^  a 
profile  is  seen  which  is  said  to  be  a  correct  like- 
ness of  Louis  XVI.  It  was  given  me  by  tiie  Isle 
Dean  of  Limerick,  whose  fiaither,  the  celebrated 
preacher,  Dean  Kirwan,  brought  it  from  Franoe^ 
where  he  had  been  educated  at  St.  Omers  for  tibe 
Koman  Catholic  church.  It  was  said  that  dmiag 
the  *'  Terror/'  after  the  murder  of  the  long,  the 
royalists  had  these  made,  and  carried  them  about 
them.  The  republican  party  could  not  tell  what 
they  were,  and  they  served  as  a  symbol  of  xeoog^ 
nition  to  the  friends  of  royalty.  Are  many  al 
these  things  known  to  be  in  existence  at  present  P 
I  never  saw  but  this  one. 

Dean  Kirwan,  who  was  of  an  old  Qt^Xmj 
family,  one  of  the  '^  Tribes/'  on-  his  return  from 
France  became  a  clergyman  of  the  Protestant 
church,  and  was  celebrated  as  a  preacher,  psr* 
ticularl^  of  charity  sermons.  His  eloquence  was 
so  irresistible  that  persons  who  went  to  bear  biib| 
leaving  their  purses  at  home,  were  seen  to  plaoe 
their  watches,  rings,  &c.,  on  the  plate  when  tibe 
collection  was  being  taken.  There  is  a  portrait  of 
him,  life-size  I  think,  in  the  hall  of  ue  Bqjal 
Dublin  Society.  It  was  painted  by  Hamilton  at 
the  expense  of  the  governors  of  St.  liter's  Qiphaa- 


4*  8.  IS.  JAK.  SO.  72.]! 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


55 


.  age,  Dublin.  He  is  represented  preaching.  His 
figure  and  those  of  the  orphans  ht-hind  him  were 
paid  for  hy  the  goveroora.  The  audience  are  sll 
portraits  also ;  each  gentleman  and  lady  paid  for 
their  own,  with  the  wretched  taste  of  wie  day. 
The  picture  repreeeata  an  imaginary  building,  and 
the  preacher  was  represented  standing  on  some 
steps  in  an  attitude  borrowed  from  "  Paul  preach- 
ing at  Athens."  Some  of  the  "  unco  guid,"  how- 
ever,  objected  to  this  aa  being  too  like  a  priest 
pleaching  &om  the  steps  of  an  altar,  bo  the  artist 
•was  obliged  to  piunt  a  sort  of  pulpit,  or  rather 
circular  tub,  round  the  lower  part  of  the  figure, 
which  is  still  further  ornamented  by  a  cloth  partly 
white,  partly  red,  thrown  over  it.  ^  It  is  said  the 
dean  was  much  annoyed  by  the  "  improvement," 
and  used  to  sav  he  "  looked  like  a  man  Legging 
some  one  to  take  him  out  of  a  tub."  When  last 
I  saw  this  picture  it  had  been  a  good  deal  injured, 
appBrently  hy  persons  who  drove  the  handlea  of 
their  brooms  uiroueh  it  when  sweeping.  Now, 
as  the  figures  are  sll  portraits  of  the  gentry  and 
nobility  who  redded  in  Dublin  in  its  palmiest 
days  when  it  was  a  metropoUs,  it  is  disgraceful 
that  such  a  picture,  even  though  a  work  of  no 
great  artistic  merit,  should  be  allowed  to  go  to 
destruction.  I  do  not  know  it  there  ia  a  "key  " 
to  the  portnuta  existing;  but  there  are  persona 
still  living  who  could  furnish  one,  no  doubt.  The 
family  of  the  dean,  some  of  whom  must  exist  in 
either  the  first  or  second  generation,  should  see  to 
this,  if  the  Royal  Dublin  Society  do  not  care  to 
preserve  a  national  monument  committed  to  their 
cba^e.  Cywbm. 

Portb-yr-Aor,  Canarvan. 


Thomas  Bibs. — In  the  collection  of  books,  &c. 
belonging  to  the  late  Bir  C.  Young,  ofTered  for 
aala  by  Messrs.  Sotheby  &  Co.,  Dec.  18,  there  was 
m  mannacript  b^  "The  lata  famous  antiijuarie, 
Tho.  Bird,  Esquier,"  compriung  three  treatises  of 
Nobilitie,  Emghthood,  and  Gentlemen,  two  of 
which  have  been  published.  Can  any  of  your 
tMders  give  me  any  information  respecting  him 
— the  date  and  place  of  his  birth  and  death,  and 
any  other  parlicuh     "  " 


[tier, 


Mother 


r  this 


1   the 


inusoript 
Lanadowne  collection,  So,  86G,  which  fonoeriy  beiongeu 
to  Ht.  Le  Stve,  at  whose  auction  it  wu  bought  b; 
Xktaolu  Harding,  Esq.  There  are  also  four  other  copies 
■moDg  Dr.  BawluuoD'a  MSS.  in  the  Bodleian.  Ahout 
one  £dt  of  it  lus  been  printed  in  the  following  work ; 
7Xe  MagaxiMi  of  Homnir;  or  a  Trealiit  of  the  Smerall 
Dma  of  the  Nobiliiy  0/  Ihu  Kmgdomr.  mM  Ihtir  RigiU 
amS  Prmitilga,  If'-  CollMUd  b;  Master  Bird.  Lcndon, 
lUi,  8vo-  Watt,  Lowndes,  and  others  attribute  this 
woik  to  fFtlHimi  Bird,  but  the  Lansdawue  MS.  states  it 
toba"!^  the  temoos  antianarie Thomas  Bird,  Esquire." 
[n  I6b7  ft  was  reprinted  with  the  name  of  Sir  Jolin  Dod- 
dridn  aod  entitled  Soaevrt  FnSartt.  He  was  pmbablT 
1  wnbM  ar  tlw  Bbd  hoi};  of  Littlebnry  in  Eawi.] 


Jacob  JSosakquet. — Will  any  one  inform  me 
if  there  is  any  London  directory  extant  giving 
the  house  of  residence  in  London  of  Jacob  Boaan- 

Suet,  Turkey  merchant,  and  the  dales  of  birth  or 
iristening  of  his  children,.  1748  to  1766?  The 
house  of  business  was  probably  in  Soutbwark. 

L.  C.  M. 
Brass  Knockers, — Can  any  one  tell  me  the 
origin  of  the  term  "  brass  knockers  "  for  reckauffi 
dishes?     It  has  been  in  use  for  some  time. 

Edward  Kowbok. 

St.  Stephen's  Club. 

Baron  Bunsen. — Sir  William  Hamilton,  Bart, 
was  created  by  the  University  of  Leyden,  in  ,or 
about  the  year  1840,  a  Doctor  of  Divinity  — 

"  And  the  professor  ever  after  jocularlv  maintained  that 
he  was  perhaps  the  only  tsymaa  in  (:urope  that  could 
pretend  to  tbe  title  of  Reveread." — JUcm/ir,  by  Job. 
Veitch,  p,  264. 

Was  not  his  contemporary  the  late  C.  0.  J. 
Bunaen,  who  was  also  a  layman,  a  Doctor  of 
Divinity?   ■  K.  P.  D.  E. 

Dr.  Fowke.— I  some  time  ance  inquired  where 
an  account  could  he  found  of  the  murder,  in  Cork, 
of  a  Dr.  Fowke  (?  1680),  the  grandfather  of 
Joseph  Fowke  of  tbe  East  India  Company's  ser- 
vice. W.  B.  (4"'  S.  iv.  574)  obliginglv  stated 
that  a  brief  account  of  Dr.  Fowke  would  be  found 
in  Original  Letters,  edited  by  Eebecca  Warner  of 
Beech  Oott^e,  near  Bath,  1817.  I  have  but 
recently  had  access  to  this  work,  and  find  in  it 
some  account  of  Joseph  Fowke  and  of  Dr.  John- 
son's correspondence  with  him,  and  with  bis  son 
Francis,  but  no  mention  of  Dr.  Fowke.  Will  you, 
therefore,  pennit  me  to  renew  my  query  P  and  to 
stat«  that  any  particulars  relating  to  Joseph 
Fowke's  parentage,  or  to  the  family  of  Fowke  in 
any  of  its  branches,  will  at  all  times  be  thankfully 
received,  if  addressed  to 

F.  B.  Fowke, 
Science  and  Art  Department, 

South  Kensington. 

Qalileo. — In  Mrs.  Gordon's  interesting  Life  of 

Sir  David  Brewster  (p.  281)  I  find  the  inscription 

on  the  house  of  Galileo  at  Arcetri  given  thus; — 

"  Qui  ove  abitb  Galileo 

Kovi  eolegna  pre^niti,  alkr 

Potenza  del  genio  la  maeslii 

di  FeriUnanda  II.  dci  Medici." 

What  is  the  true  reading  of  the  second  lineF 

As  it  stands  above,  there  is  not  an  Italian  word 

in  it;  nor  can  I  guess  what  is  intended,  except 

that  the  last  word  doubtless  should  be  "  alia." 

W.  P.  P. 

G IB80N  Family. — Efiquested,  information  con- 
(wming  the  family,  pedigree,  armorial  bearings, 
Ac,  of  Ann  Gastine,  who  was  the  first  wife  of 
Edmund  Gibson,  rector  of  Bishop's  Stortford, 
Herts,  who  died  in  1798,    He  was  tbe  grandson 


56 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«hS.IX.JAM.»»'7S. 


of  Edmund  Gibson,  Bishop  of  Ijondon  About  1730. 
Sho  wart  an  heiress,  and  came  of  a  family  which 
was  formerly  a  foroijni  one.  Also  concerning  the 
family  of  the  wife  of  the  above-mentioned  Ed- 
mund  Gibson,  T/ord  Rishtip  of  London—a  Miss 
Jonen,  a  coheiress.  Also  the  name  of  the  mother 
of  the  said  Bishop  Gibson,  and  any  particulars  of 

"  e  year  1700.* 

J.  C.  1). 


the  family  of  Gibson  prior  to  the 


An  Knqlisu  Idiom. — Has  any  one  explained 
how  the  verb  **  to  help,''  in  addition  to  its  ori- 
f^inal  meaning  of  to  mnist,  has  I  be  contradictory 
meaning  of  ^o  prcnuf,  as  *'l  could  not  help  letting 
the  plate  fall ''  P  Tyko. 

JMiiladelphin. 

Fesch  Family. — Wimted,  the  arms  of  the  family 
of  Fesch,  or  of  Cardinal  Fescb,  or  of  his  brother 
Culonel  Fesch.  Alpha. 

Females  with  Wigs.  —  When  travelling  in 
Austrian  l^ohmd  I  noticed  that  the  generality  of 
the  young  women  had  all  their  liair  shaven  close, 
and  wore  wijrs.  I  was  given  to  understand  that 
tliey  did  this  to  escapti  some  disease  of  the  hair 
which  is  connn(m  in  that  country.  Can  any  of 
your  readers  tell  me  if  such  is  the  case,  and  what 
IS  the  name  and  specialil*'  *»f  the  (li>«'ase  r' 

Amikiit  JUnkfx. 

1,  Hare  (^)urt,  liunfr  TiMiiple. 

Knakk:  \Vryi>k. — C'an  any  one  give  me  the 
meaning  and  derivati(»n  of  Knurr  and  Wryde? 
Tliey  are  H])plitMl  to  districts  or  wat«T-coiusL's  in 
the  Isle  of  Ely.  Wryde  is  a  small  staticm  be- 
tween Wisbech  and  Teterborough.  Gyrvi. 

"The  Ladies*  Library." — There  was  printed 
at  London  "  for  .Tucob  Tonson,  at  Sliakespear's 
Head  over  against  Catherine  Street  in  the  Strand, 
]714,"  a  work  in  three  volumes,  small  Hvo,  called 
The  Ladieti  Librar^f,  *' written  by  a  Lady,  and 
published  by  Mr.  Steele."  Is  it  known  who  the 
lady  was  •' 

Prefixed  to  each  volume  is  a  beautiful  frontis- 
piece. The  first  has  a  lady  perusing  a  large  folio 
volume ;  she  is  seated  on  a  chair,  leaning  her  head 
on  one  hand,  whilst  the  other  is  holding  the 
lower  part  of  the  huge  tome  she  is  devouring ; 
cards,  books,  and  two  Cupids  playing  on  tin* 
ground.  The  first  dedication  is  to  the  Countess 
of  Burlington.  May  this  not  be  a  portrait  of  her 
ladytihip  ? 

The  second  volume  is  dedicated  to  Mrs.  Bovey, 
the  perverse  widow  of  Sir  Iloger  de  Coverley, 
and  the  frontispiece  is  supposed  to  bo  her  portrait. 
She  is  sitting  at  a  table,  a  skull  beside  lier ;  at 
an  open  door  behind,  three  of  her  suitors  stand 
watching  her. 

[*  Somu  notic(»  of  Bishop  (vibdon's  fuinilv  will  be 
found  in  "N.  AQ/*  2"*  S.  vi.2«:  ix.  16S,  ilS;  4»»»  S. 
i.  ID;  vii.  7«.— Ei>.l 


Thf^  third  volume,  dodicated  to  liia  infe,  upon 
whose  virtues  Steele  dwells  with  deliffht.  The 
frontispiece  represents  a  lady  en  deskabtUe  aittiiig 
in  her  bed-chamber  with  her  children,  one  of 
whom  8he  is  in  the  act  of  caressing.  Behind  is  a 
servant  holding  a  baby.  Can  thia  be  intended 
for  a  representation  of  SteeIo*8  lady  and  her 
family  ? 

The  copy  before  mo  is  in  old  red  morocoo,  thick 
paper,  with  the'autograph  of  Eliza  Steele,  and  looki 
;  very  much  as  if  it  had  been  either  a  presentation 
ope  or  the  writer's  own  copy. 

As  the  book  itself  is  one  of  considerable  merit, 
it  would  bo  dosirablo  to  ascertain  who  the  antliot 
rt^ally  was.  Can  the  ^*  lady  "  bo  as  unreal  a  mp- 
sonage  as  the  fabulous  Jjady  Macbeth  of  Shdce* 
speareH  From  the  oxcellenco  of  the  language, 
the  valuable  and  instructive  advice  j|[iven,  ana 
the  judicious  observations  it  containi,  Steele 
might  easily  bo  taken  for  author,  instead  of 
publisher.  If  written  by  a  lady,  may  hie  wife 
not  liave  been  the  authoress,  and  her  hoaband 
tho  reviser  of  the  text  ?  Or  may  not  the  Elisa 
Steele,  whoso  name  is  written  in  a  bold  but  neat 
fttmale  hand  on  the  fly-leaf  of  each  volume  of  the 
thick  paper  and  beautifully  bound  copy  previously 
relerri'd  to,  have  been  tho  "veiled  lady"  when 
literary  labours  Steele  thought  so  highly  of  as  to 
be  induced,  ils  editor,  to  give  them  to  the  worid? 

Who  P^liza  Steele  was  the  writer  has  been  un- 
able to  ascertain,  but  the  existence  of  auch 
individiuil  is  established  by  tho  autographs 
ferred  to.  J.  M. 


Natoleon  at  Elba. — Lord  Brougham,  in 
AuiohitHjraphf  (vol.  ii.  chap.  xi.  pp.  Ill,  112), 

says :  — 

**  The  allied  sovereigns  would  have  better  aecund  their 
captive  if  they  had  sent  him  anywhere  rather  than  to  Elbii 
f«)r  that  island  combined  qualities  unusually  faveorabU  to 
intri;;^e  or  evasion.  Close  to  Italy,  at  that  time  lurtla^ 
the  tyranny  of  her  old  masters ;  easy  of  oomnmiiloatioa 
with  France  througli  Italy  and  Switaeriaad ;  too  flur  fken 
the  coast  of  France  to  be  easily  watehed,  bat  too  aaar  to 
make  a  landing  there  improbiable  or  even  diffieoU ;  and 
accordinf^ly,  in  I««s  than  twelve  months — namely,  on  the 
1st  of  March,  ISlf) — Napoleon  did  land  at  Caanet  In  Pio- 
vence,  not  far  from  wlicre  I  am  now  wrIUog ;  so  that  if 
tho  world  had  iH.'cn  searchcil  to  find  tho  reridence  the 
mo-it  dangerous  to  France,  the  most  far-seeing  men  vonld 
huvij  fixed  upon  Elba.*' 

Should  wo  not  conclude  that  thia  exprsMion, 
'^  the  mont  far-seeing  men,"  was  a  slip  of  the  pen 
for  **the  least  far-seeing  men"P  His  lordsaip 
\  evidently  meant  that  the  position  of  Elba  was  to 
obviously  dangerous  to  France,  that  pereona  en- 
dowed with  the  least  foreaight  would  haTe  per- 
ceived it.  Bab-Fohtt. 

rinladelphia. 

Nemon's  Pctngtualitt. — ^I  ha?e  heard  it  said 
that  I^rd  Nelson  made  a  pnctioe  of  Mqg  a 


4*S.  IX.  jA!J.2r),'72.J 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


quarter  of  an  hour  in  advance  of  any  appointment, 
and  that  to  this  he  ascribed  niiiny  of  liis  victories. 
Has  it  any  foundation  in  reality  '^  -M.  1). 

Poems. — I  shall  be  obliged  to  any  one  who  can 
tell  me  where  to  find  either  of  these  three  poems : 

1.  A  clever  semi -translation  of  "Ueatus  ille 

qui  procul  negotiis,"  of  which  I  only  remember 

the  lirst  verse :  — 

**  Happy  the  man  from  busy  hum, 
Ut  prisca  gens  mortalium. 
Who  whistles  his  oxen  o'er  the  lea, 
Solutud  omni  fcrnere." 

2.  A  version  of.  "  If  I  had  a  donkey  what 
wouldn't  go/'  adapted  to  the  drawing-room.  I 
think  it  was  by  Thackeray,  and  it  began :  — 

"  Had  I  an  ass  averse  to  speed.'* 

3.  A  punning  Latin  poem  on  "  nihil,"  of  which 
I  recollect  one  line  — 

^  Darius  est  saxo  nihil ;  est  preeiosius  auro/* 

H.  N.  Ellacombe. 
Bitton  Vicarage,  Gloucestershire. 

Quotations  wanted.— Reference  wanted  to  — 

**  She  was  .ill  my  fond  wishes  could  ask. 
She  was  all  the  kind  ^ds  could  impart, 
She  was  nature's  most  beautiful  task. 
The  despair  and  the  envy  of  art." 

J 5.  Nicholson. 

**My  thoughts  are  racked  in  .striving  not  to  think.'' 

KiciiAUD  Kauson,  B.A. 

"The  gay  to-morrow  of  (he  mind 
That  never  comes." 

J.  K.  T. 
New  York. 

Sir  Waltejr  Scott. — 

**  Yonder  is  the  heart  of  Scotland  [Edinburgh]  ;  and 
each  throb  which  she  fi:ives  is  felt  from  the  edge  of  Sol- 
way  to  Duncan's  Bay  Head." 

So  says  Scott  in  the  Tlie  Abbot.  Can  any  of 
the  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  inform  mo  whether  this 
is  the  original  of  this  much  hackneyed  expres- 
sum,  or  whether  there  is  an  earlier  instaiico  of  it  ? 

H.  W. 

Worcester. 

Scottish  Iron  Money.  —  In  the  Regidntm 
Monaderii  de  Paswlei  (printed  for  the  Maitland 
Club,  1832)  is  a  charter  granted  by  Walterus 
Hose  de  Cragyu  to  this  monastery  of  the  kirk  of 
CrBgjn,  and  a  carucate  of  land  besides — ^part  of 
the  lands  of  Cragyn  in  Kyle,  Ayrshire,  now  called 
Craifpe.  The  charter  is  undated ;  but,  consider- 
ing the  attesting  witnesses,  must  have  been  granted 
pnor  (some  years  possibly)  to  1 177.  At  this  time 
the  granter's^  brother,  John  Hose,  was  parson  of 
Cragyn  kirk,  and  enjoyed  a  life  interest  in  it  and 
the  caiucate;  and  regarding  him,  who  must 
hare  been  a  party-consenter  to  the  grant,  is  this 
clause:  — 

**  In  naognitioiie  v«n)  hujus  eletnosine,  predictus  Joan- 
«M  6MI,  aanmtim  prt&tis  monachis  ires  nnmwuitaK 
/cm;  BlltftNtito,"8la 


Will,  then,  any  of  your  nmiiisnialic  or  other  cor- 
respondents kindly  say  in  what  sense  "  tres 
nuinmatas  f{iwi"  ought  here  to  be  regarded!'' 
Whether  as  three  pennies  of  iron,  or  as  iron  of 
the  value  of  three  pennies.  Or,  supposing  neither 
to  bo  the  proper  interpretation,  what  that  is? 
We  would  likewise  inquire,  whether  there  is 
evidence  other  than  inferential  of  an  iron  cur- 
rency having  prevailed  in  Scotland  during  the 
twelfth  or  any  preceding  century  ?  Also  how,  or 
on  what  ground  iron,  and  not  some  coin  or  other 
commodity,  should  have  been  made  the  medium 
of  this  payment  in  recognition  P  Espedabb. 

The  Size  of  a  Book. — As  to  descnbing  a  book, 
your  correspondent  OirHAB  Hamst  being  so  able 
a  bibliographer,  I  hope  he  will  give  your  readers 
more  information,  and  therefore  ask  him,  or  any 
other  reader,  to  explain  how  the  size  of  a  book  is 
to  be  known  so  as  to  describe  it  that  the  reader 
shall  know  the  size  by  the  description  ?  Some 
folios  are  the  same  size  as  some  quartos.  How 
can  you  describe  an  8vo  from  a  16mo  of  a  sheet 
twice  the  size,  or  any  size.  How  is  a  12mo  to 
be  known  and  described,  and  how  is  it  folded  r* 
Then  again  it  would  be  very  instructive  to  the 
unenlightened  to  bo  informed  what  is  the  meaning 
of  the  word  so  often  used  —  "edition"?  The 
critical  nieanin;;  is  not  wanted,  but  what  is  to  be 
understood  as  conveyed  to  the  unlearned  or  the 
public  by  the  uso  of  the  word  as  applied  to  one 
book  or  many.  So  that  the  object  your  corres- 
pondent has  ill  view  may  bo  obtained  by  the  de- 
scription having  a  definite  meaning,  and  words  be 
always  used  by  bibliographers  in  one  sense. 

X.  Y.  Z. 

Claws  of  Shell-Fish. — Is  it  true  or  untrue 

that  the  claws  of  shell-fish  grow  again  after  being 

broken  ofi*?     I  have  always  understood  lliat  they 

do  grow  again,  but  to  my  surprise  1  read  in  Cas- 

sell's  Techmcal  Educator,  ii.  .SG2,  the  following 

passage  in  a  biographical  sketch  of  De  Reaumur  : 

"■  Reaumur  was  the  first  who  dissipated  the  old  popular 
error,  that  when  crawlish,  crabs,  or  lobsters  lost  a  claw 
nature  produced  another  in  its  stead." 

I  still  do  not  feel  convinced,  and  should  be  glad 
to  hear  somothinp:  on  this  matter  from  any  of 
your  rt'udors  who  are  well  acquainted  with  natural 
historv.  Jonathan  lioucuiER. 

SrssKx  (Queries:  The  Devil's  Nutting  Day. 
When  a  boy,  and  living  in  East  Sussex,  1  remem- 
ber that  on  a  particular  day  in  the  autumn  no  one 
would  go  out  nutting,  or  indeed,  if  po.s8ible,  pass 
along  the  lanes  of  the  village,  fearing  to  meet  his 
Satanic  majesty.  I  have  fiequently,  in  different 
parts  of  Sussex  in  late  years,  mentioned  this; 
Ijut  the  deviVs  nutting  day  now  seems  to  be  en- 
tirely forgotten.  Last  week,  however,  a  Sussex 
rector  told  me  he  remembered  that  a  school- 
master always  went  nutting  on  September  21,  St. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*8.11.  Jam.  M.*:*. 


Matlhew'a  Day ;  and  he  hud  some  idea  it  might 
ba  connected  with  the  query  I  ask— If  any  of 
TOUT  readers  know  of  thia  old  superatition  ? 

H.  W.  D. 

"Swore  by  so  B cub. "—Was  this  a  common 
expriMsdnn  tfinp.  Elizabeth  ?  I  find  it  in  Gosuon's 
Si-Aoofe  of  Ahixii  (1570),  wheru,  speaking  of  Cali- 
Kula  and  hia  horse,  he  »ays.  "  and  sworo  by  no 
buKB,  that  hee  would  make  him  u  conBiiI." 

"  C.  B.  T. 

TnxuLi.— In  a  lai'ge  lielii  facing  JIary  I'lace, 
Stockbridge,  Edinburgh,  there  are  two  tuiuiili, 
the  more  westerly  of  whieh  is  conspicuoua.  What 
do  these  coinmemorate  ?  They  are  not  nntural 
elevations,  and  one  of  them  is  so  large  as  to  at- 
tnict  the  notice  of  any  one  walking  along  the 
road  to  Cr»gleith.  ■  ^• 

DrKB  OP  Wbllisgtou.  —  Can  any  of  your 
readers  kindly  direct  me  to  any  old  paper  or 
periodical  which  contains  the  Duke  of  Welling- 
ton's correapondence  with  Sir  John  Buntoyni-  on 
the  defence  of  Kngland  in  1847  ?  E.  A.  11. 


Seiilfctf. 
RiCKAitn  iiAuiiisos  i;i-A(;k,  ll.i).  {axd 

JAMKS  HI,\CK.) 
,  (i'l-S.  viii.  ;!l)7,-l(>8.) 
Ill  18l''i-I)  1  wiiii  II  member  uf  the  cmnmiltee 
of  the  London  Jlcchanics'  Inslitiite.  Wo  had 
reei'nlly  lakrn  jvusi^siiioii  of  the  premises  in 
•Soul hanip tun  lliiildingsj  and  amoutt  the  classes 
opened  to  tlie  mt'nihi'ra  there  were  a  French  class 
— at  the  head  of  which  was  .lunii's  Black — and.  I 
think,  a  l.atiii  clas*.  which  was  (aught  hy  Dr. 
Illack,  tiie  brother  of  James.  Of  the  French  class 
luiniak  positively;  as,  although  a  pretty  f-noi 
l*'n'iLi.-h  (scholar  alii'udy,  1  joined  it  pour  enmiirm/rr 
Ini  iiHlre*.  and  I  have  now  bpfon;  nv  u  t'upv  of 
the  hook  whii-h  t  u;-vd  iu  thn  i'1h.-s  :— 

"'Plm  T'jiilnuhileiH  Srntiiii   ul   Jvlui-ati.m,  .i[irlifi[  t" 
th*  fVm'h   Uii;:Da^'F,  liy  J.  Illria."    2  >.,L-.  I..>ii;;inni), 


of  adv.' 

"Til- r"lli.«mi;Wi,rUr™iiHir.l  Willi  F.ilupatiiin,  liave 
t)«n  iKtdy  puhllslKKl  I17  R.  Ilnrrimn  Dlack,  LL.D.  :— 

"  '  Tlic  Slait«nt'n  MiuiunI,  hemis  an  Ktyniolo;;icsl  iQil 
Ex]ilun«tory  VocHbalury  iif  Wutdi  licrivetl   (Voni   the 

■"ji  S«|uel  to  llie  Stu-^nt's  JIanual,  bfinc  an  El)-- 
nmloaiol  and  Mxplanalory  '^'Ofabiilnry  of  Wnnla  t\r- 
rivcit  (lom  the  Liliii.' 

■"The  Parenfa  Latin  Krammar.  Tn  which  i.  prefi.xcil 
an  Oritrinnl  Essay  on  the  Formation  of  l.allii  Verba,  hv 
J.  II,  (lilchriat,  IX.D.' 

■'  *  A  Cnmpanion  tu  the  I'ari'iifa  l.nlin  Grammar.'  and 

-  -The  Pharmm'eiiUcal  Gnirtr.'    Seconrt  Kdition." 


In  confirmation  of  OLPHiK  HAKST'e  opinioa 
that  the  kat  on  the  list  was  Dr.  Black's  first  woric, 
I  may  mention  that  his  brother  says,  in  tha  pift- 
face  to  the  I'aidaphilean  Si/ttem,  when  speaking  of 
what  he  calla  "  the  syateni  of  teaching  practised 
'  Mr.  Hamilton, 
newspapers ''  ;- 

"Tho  Pkannartulical  Giiide  anil  the  Partnt'i  Lata 
Uramnuir  wero  publieheil  long  before  Mr.  Hamilton'* 
arrival  hi  tlila  country-." 

From  IS'24  to  1837  inclusive  I  saw  a  good  deal 
of  the  Blacks.  I  waa  then  a  banker's  clerk,  and 
in  lS:ia  it  occurred  to  me  that  an  iitstitutton 
somewhat  similar  to  the  ''  Mechanics"  was  much 
wanted  for  the  class '  1  which  I  belongvd.  Ac- 
cordingly 1  applied  to  Mr.  Orote,  and  my  idea 
being  warmlv  approved  by  him,  I  communicated 
with  the  Bfacka  and  Dr.  fiilchrist  (a  vice-pre- 
sident of  the  Mechunics'  Institute)  on  the  subject. 
The  former  then  resided  or  had  chambers  in 
Dorset  Street,  Salisbury  Square,  where  were  held 
the  early  meetings  of  the  promoter*  of  the  "  City 
of  Loudon  Library  and  Scientific  Institution," 
which  was  established  on  June  H,  1826,  and  of 
which  I  was  the  recogniEcd  founder,  niv  Huhacrip- 
tion-card  being  always  numbered  "!.''  Of  this 
institution  the  two  Blacks  were  elected  nce- 
presidents  on  February  27,  1 826 ;  and  I  find,  foim 
a  prospectus  dated  July  lo,  ISjJIt,  that  among  the 
isjiirsi'M  of  lectures  wjiich  '■  have  been  delivnRd  lo 
tho  members"  was  onu  "  On  Language,  by  Mr. 
James  Black  ;  "  as  aisii.  that "  an  extended  coune 
of  inslrnrlinn  iu  the  fri'nch  language  has  been 
given  "  by  him.  That  Dr.  Black  taught  Latin  at 
the  MerbaiiicH'  liistituti;,  I  have  said,  I  believe; 
but,  iilljiou^'li  I  imsfess  a  copy  of  his  Parmt'* 
Laiiii  <Traminiu\  I  do  not  think  be  taught  it  at 
the  City  of  London  Institution,  or  that  he  took 
any  very  active  part  in  the  nfTairs  there,  I  find, 
indeed,  that  at  the  election  of  officers  which  took 
place  on  March  Ti,  1827,  both  the  Blacks  cuasad 
to  be  vii'i^-presiik'iita  of  the  institution;  and  so 
also  inrasfd  all  kniiwleilge  ou  mj  part  of  Dr.  Black 
and  his  brulhcr  Jamiui,  except  that,  many  jrean 
afterwiirda,  I  found,  for  a  considerable  period,  a 
James  Black,  Esq.,  of  Brighton,  among  the  enb- 
scrihers  to  my  Coitrrier  de  PBui-ape. 

Joseph  THOiufc 

C.  The  (irpcn.  Straironl.  K. 


STKRSnOLD  ASD  HOPKmS. 
(4"'S.  viii.  .373,466.)» 
I  think  there  is  now  no  doubt  but  that  William 
Kethe,  who  is  known  tn  have  composed  T«nio(w 
of  a  number  of  the  Psalms,  was  tne  author.  I 
have,  with  the  assistance  of  a  friend,  collated  tha 
following  editions  of  Stemhold  and  Hc^ikiiiB,  and 
annex  particulara  of  the  iiutials^pnflnd  to  tha 


4*  S.  IX.  Jajt.  20, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES- 


59 


''Old  Hundredth"  in  the  different  editions: — 
1665,  W.  Ke. ;  1683,  no  initials ;  1695,  W.  Ke. ; 
1611,  J.  H.;  1615,  no  initials;  1628,  1624,  1629, 
1630,  aU  J.  H. ;  1626,  1626,  1633,  no  initials ; 
1633,  Scotch  edition,  W.  K. ;  1638,  1039,  1646, 
1649, 1661,  J.  H. 

The  whole  subject,  however,  is  gone  into  very 
elaborately  by  the  Rev.  Neil  Livingston  in  his — 

**  ScoUish  Metrical  Psalter  of  a.d.  1635.  Reprinted 
in  fuJl  from  the  original  Work.  The  additional  matter 
and  various  Keadings  found  in  the  edition  of  15^5,  &c., 
being  appended,  and  the  whole  illustrated  by  Disserta- 
tions, Notes,  and  Facsimiles.**    Glasgow,  1864.  , 

Mr.  Livingston  gives  /ery  satisfactory  reasons 
for  his  opinion  that  KeiL<)  was  the  author,  and 
says  that  one  edition  of  1d61,  and  the  complete 
Scottish  one  of  1564,  ascribe  it  to  Kethe.  Kethe 
was  one  of  the  exiles  at  Geneva  in  1556;  and  in 
my  copy  of  a  very  rare  book  by  Goodman,  How 
Superior  Powers  ought  to  he  obeyed,  published  in 
1668,  there  occurs  a  poetical  address  to  the  reader 
by  Kethe,  and  consisting  of  nineteen  •  stanzas  of 
four  lines  each.  The  popular  impression  has  been 
that  John  Hopkins  was  the  author  of  this  version ; 
and  this,  no  doubt,  has  arisen  from  the  fact  that 
to  the  later  editions  his  initials  '^  J.  H.'*  have  been 
appended — no  amount  of  authority,  however, 
attaches  to  this  f^t.  The  earliest  emtions  assini 
it  to  Kethe,  and  we  know  that  afterwards  the 
initials  weru  attached  by  the  printers,  and  often 
erroneously,  for  there  are  variations  in  nearly  all 
the  edition^!.  I  may  observe  that,  in  the  Censttra 
Literaria^  Kethe  is  distinctly  stated  to  be  the 
author. 

As  regards  the  proper  tune  to  which  this  psalm 
was  composed,  1  must  refer  your  correspondent  to 
Mr.  Livingston's  folio  volume.  The  tune  there 
given  is  written  on  a  staff  of  five  lines,  and  the 
notes  are  square-shaped  and  open.  G.  W.  N. 
Alderley  Edge. 

In  reply  to  Mr.  Collett's  questioa,  whether 
any  of  your  readers  can  verify  the  statement  that 
in  many  of  the  older  copies  of  this  version  of  the 
Psalms,  the  initials  of  J.  Hopkins  are  not  to  be 
found  attached  to  the  "  Old  Hundredth,"  I  may 
state  that,  in  an  edition  of  the  — 

"  Book  of  Common  Order ;  or  Knox*8  Liturgj",  printed 
in  the  year  1587  ;  containing  the  150  Psalms  of  David 
in  Meter  for  the  use  of  the  Kirk  of  Scotland," — 

and  which  is  now  lying  before  me,  the  initials 
placed  at  the  commencement  of  the  *'  Old  Hun- 
dredth Psahn »;  are  **  W.  Ke.,"  viz.  WiUiam  Kethe. 
Mr.  David  Laing,  one  of  the  best  authorities  on 
the  subject,  gives  the  authorship,  or  rather  trans- 
lator of  this  psalm,  to  Kethe  and  not  to  Hopkins. 
The  edition  of  the  Psalms  mentioned  above  is 
printed  at  London  by  Thomas  Vantrollier,  dwell- 
ng  in  the  Black  Friara,  1687.  J.  A.  B. 


HOMER  AND  HIS  TRANSLATORa 
(4»»'  S.  viii.  102,  173,  536.) 

You  have  now  had  several  learned  notes  con- 
tributed on  this  subject.  The  first  one,  that  of 
BiBLiOTHECAK.  Chetham.,  was  extromclv  in- 
teresting, l^ut  it  left  the  point  as  to  whicn  way 
the  bottle  was  passed  among  the  ancients  quite 
uncertain.  The  learned  friend  of  B.  Chbtham. 
in  his  postscript  says,  *^  using  the  right  hand  it 
is  easier  to  pass  aiiv  object  to  the  left  than  in  the 
contrary  direction,''  and  considers  that  Homer 
meant  to  describe  Vulcan  as  holding  the  great  cup 
in  his  right  hand  moving  leftward^  so  waiting 
on  the  company.  This  1  imagine  to  be  altogether 
a  misconception.  First  of  all  1  take  it  as  a  thing 
almost  certain  that  in  thu  best  arranged  triclinia 
the  right-hand  coach  or  wing  faced  the  east,  and 
that  where  the  arrangement  of  the  house  ren- 
dered this  inconvenient,  it  was  still  in  theoiy  or 
fiction  supposed  to  look  eastward.  "  The  right," 
"the  good-omened,"  and  ^*  the  east"  are  almost 
synonymous. 

Zfvs  5€  (r<^i  KpotflSris  ^vSc^ia  (rfjfiaTa  tpaivwi'. 

II.  ix.  230. 

"Gave  prosperous  signs  from  the  right  hand," 
t.  e.  ab  oriente,  says  Daminius. 
Again,  //.  ii.  353 : — 

AaTpdvTtaif  ^iri5e|( ,  {vai(ri}xa  (T-qnara  tpatiwf, 

which  Ccjwper  translates  "  bv  his  right  hand 
thunders,"  or  his  li;xhtning  in  the  east.  Ab  ori- 
entie. 

At  the  word  diriU^ios  Damniius  says  — 
"In  qua  dcxtra  triclinii  magni   parte  stabat  et   & 
Kpariip  ex  quo  vinum  niinistrabatnr :  quo<i  boni  ominiH 
crat,  ingredicntibus   (h  avSpwtfa    iv    Sc^ia    Kfia-Bai  rhi^ 
KpoT^po." 

llence  the  position  of  tho  mixiu;^-bowl  was  on 
the  right  (»f  the  triclinium.  Liddell  and  Scott 
(v.  KpaTTjp)  say  it  stood  upon  a  tripod  in  the  groat 
hall  on  the  left  of  the  entrance,  and  refer  to  Od. 
xxii.  341 : — 

"Htoi  6  <f>6pfxiyya  y\a<pupriy  KoriOi^Ki  x*V^"f' 
Mtffffri'yvs  Kpryr^pos  *5e  Bpovov  apyvpoijKov. 

**  He  placed  on  the  ground  the  hollowed  cithern 
Midway  between  the  bowl  and  silver-nailed  throne.'* 

The  ground  is  now  cleared  for  explaining  the 
whole  difficulty.  Take  first  Iliad,  i.  597.  Vulcan 
pours  out  ^i/5«|io  from  his  own  left  toward  his 
right  hand,  beginning  with  the  guest  seated  most 
to  tho  east,  and  who  was  consequently  placed 
nearest  to  the  Kpar^p,  which  stood  on  that  guest's 
ri^ht  hand ;  and  so  he,  Vulcan,  went  round  the 
table  or  dais,  southward,  as  the  sun  travels,  until 
he  reached  the  deity  seated  westernmost,  and  if 
instead  of  speaking  of  Vulcan  you  speak  of  the 
direction  in  which  the  wine  came  to  e«A\v  q^  NXi<^ 
gods  aeated  as  Vulcan  moved  horn  \^l\.  lo  T^giaX.^ 


60 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  S.  IX.  Jan.  20, 12. 


80  tho  cup  must  viait  tlioui  from  right  to  left. 
Afrain,  Od.  xxi.  141  — 

**  Companions  arise,  cvervono  in  turn  » 

From  left  to  right,  as  the  wine  pouicr  pours  out  wine.'* 

If  Antinous  had  said  merely  iirihl^ia,  tho  suitor 
seated  on  the  west  or  left-hand  side  would  have 
moved  iirst ;  but  he  immediately  adds,  ''  as  tho 
cup-bearer  moves."    On  tho  above  passage  in  the 

Iliad   the  scholiast  says — ivU^ia  iMr\  rovy  inrh  rS>v 

8(^iwi/  /Acpctfi'  ap^dfi€¥os.    On  the  passage  from  tho 

Odijsscfj  he  says  —  €l<novrav  ds  rhv  avBpieya  iy  St^ia 

Kfiffdcu  rhv  KparrjfKL,  From  thoso  two  passages  I 
infer  that  the  scholiast,  like  most  commentators, 
did  a  great  deal  more  to  confuse  the  text  than  to 
clear  up  any  real  dilliculties. 

When  Toland  says  that  the  aboriginal  Italians 
worshipped  turning  to  the  right  hand,  i.  e.  from 
west  to  east,  he  exactly  reverses  tho  truth.  Tho 
east  was  called  the  right  hand,  and  the  Koman 
augur  began  his  rites  facing  the  east,  and  conse- 
quently, following  the  sun,  he  moved  from  left  to 
right  like  the  cup-bearer,  as  a  servant  pcrving  his 
gods,  and  the  left  hand  of  the  augur  *'  was  amongst 
the  Ilomans  reputed  the  right  in  augury,''  that  is 
to  say,  it  was  turned  to  the  east,  or  to  tho  right. 
I  doubt  if  tho  (Jauls  or  any  othtir  people  ever 
turned  to  tho  left,  contrary  in  the  Koman  custom, 
thougli  Pliny  ailimiH  it.  One  thing  is  certain  for 
all  wine-drinkorii,  that  the  true  coursi;  of  tho 
bottle  runs  with  the  coursie  of  tho  great  god 
Apollo,  the  graixj-maker,  from  right  to  left, 
southing,  or  westering,  as  wo  sit  at  modem  tables 
passing  the  wine  for  our-^elves,  or  with  our  clumsy 
lacqueys  pouring  it  over  our  shoulders.  Ikit 
cViJefio,  from  left  to  right,  if  our  attendants  stood 
in  the  centre  of  the  tables,  as  in  the  old  triclinia, 
serving  us,  or  as  the  Uonian  augur  waited  on  the 
gods,  from  loft  to  right.  "  C.  A.  W. 

Mayfair. 

That  there  is  an  entire  difl'oronce  of  opinion 
among  scholars  as  to  the  way  in  which  the  words 
ivU^iUf  ^iriif^ia,  are  to  be  translated,  mav  be  shown 

1  •  •■.  .«  .•.'■^<k«..* 


8,  V.  imU^ios.  The  former  authority  states  that 
"  the  cups  were  always  carried  round  from  right 
to  left  (fVt  hf^ti),  and  the  same  order  was  observed 
in  the  conversation,  and  in  everything  that  took 
place."  The  latter  gives  im^e^ia  as  =  **  right  about, 
from  left  to  right,  towards  the  right."  And  this 
would  seem  necessarily  to  bo  the  primitive  sig- 
nification. But  the  words  "  towards  the  right  " 
are  in  themselves  ambiguous,  and  may  be  inter- 
preted in  accordance  with  the  apparent  motion  of 
the  sun  or  not,  tho  meaning  being  decided  by  the 
pohit  in  tho  circle  of  drinkers  whence  the  cup 
stai'trt.  It  is  needless  to  remark  on  the  vagutjnese 
of  our  common  expression  *'  from  right  to  left,"  vm 


applied  to  any  circular  motion.  In  ordinary  speech 
the  words  ^'  during  the  upper  half  of  the  revolu- 
tion "  inuf%t  always  be  considered  as  understood. 
Kvorynnc  must  have  felt  the  need  of  some  more 
exact  expression  when  instructing  a  little  child  in 
which  direction  to  turn  a  key  or  a  handle. 

If  you  say  to  a  grown-up  person,  "  Turn  the  key 
to  the  left,"  it  is  always  understood  at  once  that 
the  upper  part  (the  nobler  part)  of  the  key  it  to 
be  turned  in  that  direction;  but  Hie  child,  to 
whom  custom  has  not  yet  explained  this  purely 
arbitrary  elliptical  form,  is  invariably  perplexed 
in  its  first  essays. 

So  in  heraldry  the  bend  sinister  springs  firom 
tho  sinister  side  of  the  nobler  portion  of  the 
shield,  though  there  is  nothing  inherent  in  its 
description  to  prevent  its  coming  down  towaida 
the  sinister  base. 

Similar  illustrations  are  to  be  found  in  me- 
chanics. A  right-handed  thread  is  one  which  is 
drawn  on  a  rod  placed  horizontally  from  the  left 
downwards  towards  the  right ;  and  such  a  thread 
will  cause  the  screw  to  enter  its  work  when  turned 
"  the  way  of  the  sun."  That  both  ways  of  cir- 
culating tho  cup  were  in  vogue  appears  evident 
from  a  passage  in  Athonuous  (1.  xi.  c.  10).  I  quote 
from  Yonge's  version : — 

**  And  wo  may  add  to  all  this,  that  diircrcnt  ciliuji  have 
peculiar  fashionH  of  drinking  and  plcd^in^:  one  another  ; 
as  Critias  incntion.s,  in  liLi  Qmntitntiou  of  the  Itaetdm' 
mnntamt^  whon>  )ic  say^, "  Thu  Chian  and  the  Thaaian 
drink  out  of  lar^o  cups,  passing  them  on  towards  the 
right  hand  ;  and  tlic  Athenian  also  passes  the  wine  to- 
wards tho  right,  hut  drinks  out  of  small  caps.  But  the 
Tiicssulian  uses  large  cups,  pleilging  whoever  he  pleiMa 
without  reference  to  where,  he  may  be ;  but  among  the 
Ijacedienionians,  every  one  drinks  oat  of  his  own  cap, 
an<l  a  nlnve  acting  as  cup-bearer  fills  ap  again  the  cup 
when  each  has  drained  it.*' 

And  Anaxandrides  also  mentions  tho  fashion  of 
assing  tlic  cup  round  towards  tho  right  hand  in 
lis  CowdrymcHj  spealiing  as  follows  : — 

"  . / .  In  what  way  arc  you  now  prepared  to  drink  ? 
Toll  WW  I  pniy. 

li.  In  what  way  are  we  now 

l'reparo<l  to  drink  ?  Why  any  way  you  please. 

A.  Shall  we  then  nowj  my  father^  tell  the  guests 
To  i»u>li  the  wine  to  Hie  right  If 

Ji.  "        UTiat,  to  the  right  ? 

Tliat  would  be  just  as  though  this  wore  a  funeral." 

J.  Eliot  IIonaKiN. 

West  Derby,  Liverpool. 


I 


COKESEY :  THROCKMORTON,  ETa 
(4^»>  S.  viii.  73,  passim,  638.) 

T  merely  wish  to  correct  an  error  in  my  last  not«. 
1  should  have  t>aid  "  Lord  TMnnuu  Berkeley  of 
(yoberley.*'  I  may,  however,  take  the  opportanity 
of  farlher  exphdning  that  this  banm's  wife  Join 


4*  S.  IX.  Jam.  20,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


61 


Hucceeded  as  sole  heiress  to  her  father,  Geoflrey 
lo  Archer,  of  Stoke  Archer,  Cleeve,  (Houcester- 
bhire. 

Lettice,  wife  <^f  lloLert  le  Archer,  had  S(^nio 
generations  bef  ro  paid  four  marks  for  having  her 
dowry  near  Cleeve.  This  Lettice  I  take  to  be 
**  Selidn  filia  et  hajr.  Rogeri  de  Hulehall,"  and 
wife  of  "  Robertus  Archer  (or  le  Archer)  de  Tan- 
worth,  in  com.  Warr."  I  believe  that  the  descent 
from  Robert  to  Geoffrey  le  Archer  is  pretty  clear. 
And  I  understand  that  the  dowry  of  Lettice  is 
now  called  Stoke  Orchard,  a  corruption  of  Stoke 
Archer. 

If  my  memory  does  not  deceive  me,  Banks 
mentions  the  Berkeley-Archer  alliance. 

Although  Joan  was  the  father's  heiress,  I  have 
little  doubt  that  there  were  many  veritable  cousins 
on  the  father's  side  scattered  about  the  county, 
and  in  humble  life.  The  fashion  of 'pretending 
that  the  greatest  line  of  a  family  is  the  last,  is  being 
exploded ;  and  moreover  is  very  stupid,  as  the 
perpetuation  of  a  family  in  various  spheres  of  life 
18  honoured  by  the  doctrine  of  "  selection,"  and  is 
a  good  sign  of  its  original  healthiness.  And  this 
reminds  me  that,  apart  from  the  legal  proofs  of 
descent,  what  has  been  said  of  the  Cokeseys' 
vitality  is  probably  true,  although  not  capable  of 
proof.  Sr. 


The  reUders  of  "N.  &  Q."  must  by  this  time  be 
getting  heartily  tired  of  the  discusi^ion  between  Si». 
and  myself;  and  as  I  feel  sure  that  no  new  facts 
will  be  elicited  by  continuing  the  controversy,  I 
think  Sp.  and  I  had  better  "  agree  to  differ." 

I  propose,  in  this  my  last  communication  on  the 
subject,  to  notice  as  briefly  as  possible  his  two 
last  letters  at  pp.  445  and  538. 

In  the  first-named  letter  he  regrets  that  I  should 
"so  often"  misunderstand  him.  He  never  (he 
says)  expressed  a  high  opinion  of  Berry's  Encyclo- 
padia,  nor  did  he  attribute  to  Cooksey  the  coat  of 
Greville. 

I  never  said  he  did ;  and  if  he  will  refer  to  my 
note  at  p.  333,  he  vnll  perceive  (I  should  think) 
that  the  latter  portion  of  it  was  in  reply  to  another 
correspondent,  as  Boreas  (p.  538)  lias  already 
pointed  out.  So  have  I  disposed  of  one  "mis- 
understanding."   What  are  tne  othei*s  ? 

I  certainly  understood  him  to  say  very  plainly, 
very  clearly,  and  very  distinctly,  at  p.  246,  that 
he  had  seen  many  pedigrees  of  Throckmorton, 
and  in  none  of  them  was  any  match  with  Olney 
named;*  and  in  equally  plain  language  he  con- 
veyed hia  belief  that  such  a  person  as  William 
Bdoom  never  existed. 


*  The  only  pedigree  I  have  seen  in  which  the  match 
wkhOliiey  Ib  Mi  named  is  that  in  Dugdale's  Warwick' 


Now,  ho  says  he  was  "not  ij^^norant  of*]><K^o]n"! 
And  I  suppose  ho  also  knew  that  there  w.h  a 
plac(5  called  Olney  in  Buckin^'hauisliire  as  well  jus 
in  Warwickshire. 

I  gave  Sp.  credit  for  having  some  authority  for 
liis  statement  at  p.  333,  that  "  both  charges  belong 
to  the  Throckmorton  family  ";  but  I  can  only  in- 
fer from  his  remarks  at  p*.  538  that  such  state- 
ment rests  upon  no  solid  foundation. 

I  have  adduced  some  evidence  in  support  of 


language),  "misled  by  partial  resemblances  a'ld 
coincidences,"  he  insists  that,  because  Archer 
bore  three  arrows,  and  Throckmorton  quartered 
three  arrows,  therefore  Throckmorton  quartered 
Archer. 

Why,  I  might  just  as  well  say  that  Throck- 
morton quartered  Hales  (for  the  Warwickshire 
family  of  that  name  also  bore  three  arrows),  and 
call  upon  Sp.  to  prove  a  negative  I 

"  I  imputed  to  Dugdale  (says  Sp.)  a  doubt  as 
to  such  a  right"  (t.  e,  to  quarter  Archer).  So  he 
did ;  but  what  possible  grounds  had  he  for  such  an 
'*  imputation  "  ?  Where,  I  ask,  does  Dugdale  any- 
where even  Mnt  such  a  doubt  ?  I  am  sorry  that 
I  cannot  tell  Sp.  to  what  family  the  coat  of  *'  a 
chevron  between  three  arrows "  belongs ;  but  if 
he  will  refer  to  Nash's  Worcedershire  (i.  452)  he 
will  find  that  such  a  coat  is  impaled  by  Olney  at 
Fladbury;  only  Nash  (I  hope  Sp.  will  forgive 
him)  is  so  obtuse  as  to  call  it  "a  chevron  be- 
tween three  holts.''^ 

As  the  coat  was  impaled  by  Olney,  I  would 
suggest  a  reference  to  the  Olney  pedigree  in  Lips- 
comb's Bucks.  This  would  probably  enable  Sr. 
to  answer  his  ovm  query. 

Permit  me  to  say,  in  conclusion,  that  if  Sp. 
would  favour  the  readers  of  "N.  &  Q."  with  a 
correct  blazon  of  the  usual  atchievement  of  Throck- 
morton (as  at  Coughton  and  elsewhere),  and  name 
and  account  for  every  quartering,  he  would  be 
doing  good  service,  for  it  presents  some  difficul- 
ties; but  I  am  sure  I  should  be  occupying  the 
valuable  space  of  "  N.  &  Q."  to  no  good  or  useful 
purpose,  were  I  to  prolong  this  discussion  by  fur- 
nishing him  (as  he  asks  me)  with  "more  infor- 
mation tending  to  show  that  Throckmorton  did 
not  quarter  Archer."  H.  S.  G. 

P.S.  I  should  perhaps  mention,  with  reference 
to  Sp.'s  charge  against  me  of  misunderstand in^i^ 
him,  that  my  note  at  p.  333  was  really  two 
separate  and  distinct  articles :  the  latter  portion, 
which  has  reference  solely  to  the  Cooksey  ques- 
tion, having  been  (to  the  best  of  my  recollection) 
written  and  forwarded  to  "  N.  &  Q."  on  a  different 
day. 


62 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*hS.lX  Jah-SO,*?*. 


•  SNATCHES  OF  OLD  TUNES. 
(4»*«  S.  Tiii.  360,  457.) 

The  Irish  laudation  of  Castle  Hyde  referred  to 
by  E.  L.  S.  is,  I  believe,  unpublished.  It  formed 
the  model  for  Milliken's  famous  "Groves  of 
Blarney,'-  a  few  lines  of  which  E.  L.  S.  quotes. 

The  original  was  writtten  by  a  weaver  named 
Barrett  about  1790,  and  has  been  repeated  as 
follows  (from  memory)  a  few  montlis  since  by  a 
peasant  gill  who  lives  on  the  green  banks  of  the 
Bliickwater,  where  Castle  Hyde  stands :  — 

"  As  I  roved  out  one  summer  morning 
Down  the  banks  of  Blackwater's  side. 
To  view  the  groves  and  meadows  charmin;;;:, 
And  tlie  pleasant  gardens  of  Caatle  llydc. 

**  Tis  there  youM  hear  the  thrushes  warblinfr. 
The  dove  anrl  partridge  I  now  descried. 
The  lambkins  S[)orting  everj'  morning — 
All  to  adorn  sweet  Castle  Hyde. 

**  It*8  here  you'd  see  the  roses  blooming, 

With  sweet  carnations  all  in  their  pride — 
'Tis  their  vocation  with  grace  and  beauty 
To  deck  the  gardens  of  Castle  Hyde. 

**  'J'he  great  improvements  they  would  amaze  you  : 
The  trees  arc  drooping  with  fruit  of  all  kind, 
The  bees  perfuming  the  tields  with  music 
That  yield  more  beauty  to  Castle  H3'de. 

"  There  are  fine  walks  in  those  pleasant  gardens. 
And  seats  most  charming  in  shady  bowers, 
And  u  gladiator  both  bold  and  daring 

iSUmds  niglit  and  m(>rning  to  watch  the  (lowers. 

"The  richest  groves  (hr()Uf,'h»)ut  \]\h  kingdtun. 
And  fine  plantation^  >«»m  would  sec  there  ; 
There  is  no  valley  throughout  the  nation 
With  it  for  beauty  can  compare. 

"  There's  a  church  for  service  in  this  lino  st^ition, 
Where  nobles  often  in  coaches  ride 
To  view  the  groves  and  meadows  charming 
That  front  the  gardens  of  Castle  Hyde. 

"The  buck  and  doe,  the  fox  and  eagle. 

There  skip  and  play  by  the  river's  siric  ; 
The  trout  and  salmon  play  at  backgammon 
In  the  clear  streams  of  Castle  Hvde. 

"There  are  fine  horses  and  stall-fed  oxes, 
A  den  for  foxes  to  play  and  hide  ; 
Fine  mares  for  breeding,  with  foreign  sheep  in 
Snowv  fleeces  on  everv  side. 

"  The  wholesome  air  of  this  habitation 
Would  recreate  your  heart  with  pride  ; 
There  is  no  valley  throughout  the  nation 
For  beauty  ecpial  to  Castle  Hyde. 

*•  If  noble  princes  from  foreign  places 

Should  chance  to  sail  to  the  Iri.sh  .shore, 
*Tis  in  this  valley  they  would  be  feasted, 
As  heroes  often  were  before. 

"  There's  a  lofty  mill  in  this  fine  arlwur. 
Built  by  our  noble  Colonel  Hyde, 
Where  servants  and  special  tradesmen 
By  their  kind  master  are  employed. 

"  He  buys  good  com  from  everj'  farmer. 
The  Dublin  markets  he  has  supplied. 
Oh  !  long  may  lie  live!  brave,  noble  Arthur. 
The  chief  commander  of  Caatle  Hvde. 


u 


u 


u 


u 


I've  roved  from  Blarney  to  Castle  Barnard, 
From  Tbomastown  to  sweet  Doneraile ; 

From  Kilshannock,  that  joins  Rathcormack, 
Besides  Killamey  and  Abbeyfale ; 

The  rapid  Boyne  and  the  flowing  Nore, 
The  river  Shannon  and  the  pleasant  Bride ; 

But  in  all  my  ranging  and  serenading, 
I  saw  none  equal  to  Castle  Hyde. 

God  bless  the  Colonel,  likewise  the  Major, 
For  they  are  an  ancient  grand  family  ; 

They  are  kind  and  civil  to  all  their  neighbours, 
And  they  bear  the  sway  of  the  country. 

Long  life  and  peace  to  these  noble  heroes, 

And  may  they  daily  in  coaches  ride ; 
For  there's  not  a  statesman  throughout  the  nation 

Can  be  compared  with  brave  Arthur  Hyde." 

Henry  Babby  Hyde,  Junb. 

1,  Belsizc  Park  Gardens. 


I'uBLic  Teachers  (4'*«  S.  viii.  413, 656 ;'  ix,  42.) 
In  my  remarks  on  the  first  correction  of  BosweU 
I  ought  to  have  mentioned  that  the  date  [of  1758] 
is  evidently  a  slip  of  Croker's  pen,  as  is  proved  by 
a  subsequent  note  on  the  very  page  where  Mk. 
TiiOBXiJURY  found  tlw  letter  to  Lucy  Porter,  In 
this  note  Croker  distinctly  states  that  Lady  Day, 
1750,  was  the  date  on  which  Johnson  "  broke  up 
his  establishment  in  Gough  Square,  where  he  had 
resided  for  ten  years,  and  retired  to  chambers  in 
Staple  Inn  "  (BosweWH  Johnson,  od.  1860,  p.  118, 
note  4  and  text).  CiiiTTBLDBOoe. 

Blue  Speedwell  (4^''  S.  viii.  549.) — AGennan 
relative  was  with  us  when  I  opened  "  N.  &  Q." 
for  Dec.  30,  1871  ;  he  says  that  Mannertreu  U 
the  proper  name  for  a  little  blue  flower  which 
from  his  description  must  be  Veronica  chamtBdrvif 
in  England  known  as  blue  speedwell,  or  biid' 
eye.  Thus. 

Old  KNKiMATicAL  Puzzle  (:5'*»  S.  ix.  78,  l&T* 

1*07,  'VM.) — The  exphuiations  of  these  conceits^ 

of  which  A.  A.*s  li^st  forms  only  a  small  parl^ 

given  in — 

**Thc  Old  Lady  and  her  Niece,  the  Fair  Incofrnita,  de«»^ 
teeted  and  brought  to  Justice.  In  which  are  laid  optxM^^* 
the  many  strange  expedients,  sly  artifices,  and  variooi^x''* 
uncommon  and  ridiculous  disguises  they  made  uae  to^ 
conceal  tliemsolves.  To  wliich  is  prefixed  a  i^rious  at-J^^ 
tempt  to  vindicate  their  innocence,  and  apologize  fb«<'*' 
their  odd  humour.-?.    Tendon,  1752."    8vo,  pp.  81. 

As  the  solutions  only,  without  the  original -O^ 
questions,  art?  here  given,  I  suppose  the  latter  ap— *ir 
peared  in  a  j)rovious  pamphlet.  W.  C.  B.       -* 

Population  op  London  in  1666  (4*^  S.  viii^*-* 
540.) — This  very  often  debated  question,  that  oF 
the    probable  population  of  London  about 
time  of  the  Fire  of  1606,  has  been  raised  again  ii 
your  pages.     Those  familiar  with  the  subject 
aware  tliat  the  only  approximation  of  any  value^^-^ 
which  can  be  arrived  at  is  that  afforded  by    " 
I  number  of  deaths  in  the  bills  of  mortality,  wil 


4*8.  IX.  JiM.20,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


63 


an  estimate  of  the  probable  percentage  of  death  ~ 
to  the  whole  numbCT  of  living.  But  I  will  nieii- 
tion  to  you  another  piece  of  evidence,  which  ! 
find  relied  on  in  n  curious  book  entitled  The 
Sappy  Ftttm-e  Stale  of  England,  1688  (anonj  - 
raous).  The  writer  says  that  the  total  number 
rehirned  in  "  the  bishop's  aurvey  for  the  pro- 
vince of  Canterbury  (in  1670)  of  all  perauasion.- 
of  religion  above  the  age  of  sixteen  in  the  wholi' 
diocese  of  London,"  was  280,347.  "Doubling'  thi- 
number  for  those  under  the  age  of  sixteen  "  makea 
-^iSjGS^;  add,  for  the  survey,  metropolitan  parishes 
in  the  diocese  of  Wincheater,  about  80,00b  in  hi.4 
opinion;  deduct  for  rural  parishes  and  peculiar?. 
The  calculation  is  but  a  rough  one;  but  on  tb^' 
whole  it  supports  the  common  conjectural  result 
(530,000  in  1685,  according  to  Kin^,  cited  by 
Macaulay).  Mj  chief  object  in  vmtmg  to  you 
is,  however,  to  ascertain,  through  your  corre- 
apoDdents,  particulars  of  "  the  bishop's  survey  " 
here  quoted,  and  whether  it  is  of  value  as  a  sta- 
tistical authority.  Jban  lb  TitouvmnL 

Ges.  Johh  Dbsborovoh  (4'*  S.  viii.  527.)— 
Mr.  Cole  has  given  some  Uttle  account  of  the 
Desborougba  wnich  may  he  of  service  to  J.  D. 
(See  Add.  MS.  5810,  fol.  72.)  An  inscription 
frma  a  tomb  in  Elaworth  church  is  given  in  thia 
MS., 

I»te_ 

December, 

He  was  Keeper  of  the  Seals,  or  Chancellor,  of 
Scotland,  during  the  usurpation,  and  brother  to 
Uajor-General  Desborougb.  He  was  Lord  of  the 
Cinque  Ports,  and  married  Oliver  Cromwell's 
siater.  Anthony  Wood  calls  this  John  "a  yeo- 
man and  a  great  lubberly  clown,"  The  wife  of 
Samnel  Desborougb  was  named  "BoBe,"ob.  March 
4, 1698.  Dr.  Lunne  married  a  descendant  of  Oen. 
Desborougb,  and  lived  at  Hackney. 

W.  WmrERs. 

Walthun  Abbey. 

J.  D.  will  find  a  full  and  interesting  account 
of  the  Diflbrowes  of  Eltialey  in  Mark  Noble's 
Oromateil  Memoirg,  second  edit.  vol.  ii.  pp.  274- 
99-  Q.  M.  T. 

Rbv.  Johm  Bbyah,  1061  (4""  S.  viii.  520.)  — 
Clebicus  will  find  an  account  of  him  in  the 
Woril^et  of  Wartoickthire,  recently  published  by 
the  Bev.  T.  Leigh  Colville,  in  which  are  many 
puticulars  of  his  three  sons  and  himself.        • 

T.  E.  WiNIflBGIOIf. 

Wateb  ab  a  Tcrkspit  f4'>'  S.  viu.  528.)— 
Wollarahill  is  the  seat  of  Mr.  Hanford  Flood, 
the  present  high  sheriiT  of  Worcestershire.  He 
mamed  the  heiress  of  the  Hanford  family,  who  . 
anee  16S6  have  tended  there.  The  spit,  turned  ' 
ij  A  stream  of  water  bom  Bredon  Hill,  remained  j 


"Berelysth  the  Body  of  Samuel  Disbrow,  Esquire, 
te  Lord  of  tbis  Msnunr,  aged  75.  He  dyed  the  3U  a[ 
ecemberjintbeyearofoar  Lord  1690." 


till  recently,  and  has  been  superseded  by  modern 
improvements.  1  have  not  heard  of  a  similar  ap- 
plication elsewhere.  T.  E.  Wibnington. 
1  have  seen  this  in  one  of  the  hotels  at  Mat- 
lock, Derbyshire,  A  natural  spring  of  water 
falling  00  a  wheel  turned  the  i^pit.  The  roacbiuery 
was  of  course  kept  carefully  oiled. 

W.  J.  BEEiraiiiiD  Suiia. 
Tempk. 

When  the  Duke  of  Norfolk's  house  at  "The 
Farm  "  in  the  suburbs  of  Sheffield  was  rebuilt 
about  forty  years  ago,  I  noticed  the  insertion  of  a 
copper  water-wheel  about  three  feet  in  diameter 
inmde  the  chimney  breast, will;  connecting  gear  for 
turning  the  spit.  It  was  erected  by  Mr.  Shaw 
of  Worksop,  well  known  asa  bell-hanger  through- 
out and  beyond  the  "dukeries."  He  was  a  most 
ingenious  man,  and  appeared  to  me  to  watch  and 
direct  the  interior  arrangements  of  a  new  building 
as  if  the  accommodation  of  his  hells  ought  to  be 
the  main  consideration  of  the  architect.       J.  H. 


.^ilen 


lightni 


gleai 


id  drear  and  comrortle!i8, 
the  atnrlesa  night." 

Jon.  Bodcbibk. 


Dr.  Yoxma'a  SxEP-rAraHTEB  (4'"  S.  viii.  484.) 
[  enclose  an  exact  transcript  from  that  part  of  a 
Lee  pedigree  relating  to  Dr,  Edward  Young, 
which  may  serve  to  supplement  the  information 
afforded  by  W.'  K  The  pedigree  in  question  was 
formally  attested  as  true  by  Robert  Lee,  fourth 
Earl  of  Litchfield,  on  June  6,  1774,  '  " 
neaaa  of  Isaac  Heard,  Lancaater. 

Frederics  Oboboe  Lee,  D.C.L. 

Elizabeth  [Lee],  =  Edward  YouDg,  U.D.,    rector  of 
ji,j  .1,....  Welwyn,  in  co.  Hertford,  author 

of  the  Unitcrsal  Fattion  and 
many  otheroorioosworhs.  Mar- 
ried May  ^,  1731;  ob.  April  5, 
1765.    Will  in  last  volume  of 


I  the  pre- 


i'rederick  Vounfr,  Ksq.,  =  EliiBbelb  Thornton  Keyaham, 
™ly  son,  of  Welwj-n  I  dau.  of  Giles  Thornton,  H.  of 
Hertford.  Bom  June  ,  Stagenhoc  Cottam  i  married 
1733  ;  baptized  at  the  OcUber  f;,  ITCS,  at  St.  Paul's, 
Xew  Church,  Strand.  Walden,  co.  Herts. 


zabeth,  only  child. 


bom  Oct.  18,  1 


"  Thb    Beooab's    Daitghter    of   Bedkau. 

((seen"  (4"  S.  viii.  S 10.) — Your  correspondent 
Alice  Thachek,  who  writes  with  reference  to  a 
single  stanza  quoted  in  Giifillan's  edition  of  The 
Percy  ReUques,  from  an  apparently  unknown  ver- 
sion of  this  ballad,  may  be  mterested  by  my  men- 


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L4t»»  8.  JX.  Jak.  VK  72. 


tioniiifr  the  following:  circumatanco.  Many  y(»ars 
R^n  \  po^efised.  but  it  linR  loii<r  Hince  been  lost,  a 
fiiut  mezzotint  engmvinjr,  larjijo  Iblio  size,  called  the 
"Blind  Befjgar  of  Bednall  i.ireeu";  but  so  lonpr  a 
period  has  elapsed,  that  both  the  name  of  the 
painter  and  engraver  have  faded  away  from  my 
recollection.  On  the  margin  underneath  were  in-  ! 
scribed  those  pretty  lines  which  she  has  quoted, 
but  no  more.  Until  my  attention  wjis  dmwn  bv 
her  to  the  mention  of  them  as  part  of  a  ballad,  I  , 
had  imagined  that  they  had  been  composed  for, 
and  inscribed  underneath  it,  merely  as  an  illustra- 
tion of  the  subject  of  the  engraving. 

John  Pickfohd,  M.A. 

*  Ilungntc  Street,  Pickering. 

Pocket-Handkkkcuikfs  (4'*»  S.  viii.  514.) — 

The  following  note   might  be   added    to   those  I 

quoted.  The  famous  ( /onnaught  chief tainess ( Irana-  i 

Uile,  or  Grace  ( )'Mally,  after  defying  (^ueen  ICliza-  i 

beth  for  a  while,  found  it  expedient  to  proceed  to 

London  to  make  her  peace  with  that  sovereign. 

In  the  AntMogia  Hihernica  for  July,  170'*,  it  is 

stated  that  — 

•*  The  queen,  surrounded  by  lier  ladies,  received  lier  in 
great  state.  Grana  was  introduceil  in  tiic  dress  of  her 
country :  a  lonj^  mantle  covered  lier  hea<l  and  body ;  her 
hair  was  gathered  on  her  crown,  and  fastene<i  with  a 
bodkin  ;  Iier  breast  was  bare,  and  she  had  a  yellow  bod- 
dice  and  petticoat.  The  court  stared  with  surprise  at  so 
strange  a  figure ;  when  one  of  the  ladies  perceived  that 
Grana  wanted  a  pocket-handkerchief,  which  was  instantly 
handed  to  her.  After  she  had  used  it,  she  threw  it  into 
the  fire.  Another  was  given  her,  and  she  was  told  by  an 
interpreter  that  it  was  to  be  put  in  her  poi'ket.  Grana 
felt  indignant  at  this  intimation ;  and,  applying  it  to  her 
nose,  threw  it  also  into  the  fire,  declaring  that  in  her 
country  they  were  much  cleanlier  than  to  pocket  what 
came  from  their  nostrils." 

(Iranu  was  the  daughter  of  Owen  O'Mjdly, 
and  married,  iirnt,  0*Flaglierty,  and  secondly  Sir 
llickard  l^ourke,  styled  Mac  William  l^lighter, 
who  dif'd  in  15.Si).  ;\Ir.  Wakeraan  notes,  in  his 
LoiKjh  Jinw  (Dublin,  1870),  that  (Jnina  was  a 
dirt»ct  ancestress  of  the  pres«'nt  Governor-Oeneral 
of  India,  Lord  Mayo.  W.  11.  1*. 

Dkatii's  IIkad  Buttons  (l^''  S.  viii.  W7.) — 
lleft'iTiiig  to  this  query,  was  not  the  orij^'in  of  the 
use  of  such  buttons  the  same  as  that  of  rings,  on 
which  it  was  common  to  have  such  a  *'  posy,'* 
from,  it  was  thought,  an  affectation  of  piety? 
See  .1.  Webster's  Northward  Ho!  (Act  IV.  Sc.  1). 

William  J'niLLirs. 

li»:»,  Richmoiul  Road,  llacknev. 

litiuERT  MoKDKX  {4}^  S.  viii.  o:38.)— I  have 
notirrcl  rlsewhero  that  Morden's  County  Maps  are 
given  *'  nt)  date."  Perhaps  it  may  be  worth  while 
to  record  in  your  pages  that  they  belong  to  Dr. 
(lib." Ill's  esUtion  of  Cmndm  (published  KJOo). 

Walthkof. 

WiSKMAN  OF  Barbadoes  (4t'>  S.  viii.  510.)—- 
loan  srnrrely  call  the  following  a  reply  diroet: 


but  the  query  in  question  gives  mo  nn  opportunit}' 
of  presenting  to  Tbwaiis  a  few  uamos,  from  the 
much  and  undeservedly  neglected  historic  local 
records  of  Barbadoes,  which  may  poasibljr  afibid 
him  clues.  These  names  occur  m  the  pariah 
registers  and  wills,  between  1640  and  1690 :  — 

IToadlcy,  Sancroft,  Atterbury,  Cornish,  Oates,  Danger- 
field,  Hutchinson,  Vane,  fiourchicr,  Fauoonbridge,  Tltu, 
Fleetwood,  Ireton,  Wade,  (Sheldon,  Vauffhau,  Tomlinaon, 
Culluni,  Baxter,  May,  Johnson,  Gaunt,  Bedloe,  ColamaD, 
Pole,  Saxby,  Syndercombe,  Penderell,  Piokerton,  Perrot, 
Matthew.4,  also  Mathcw,  Ayloffe,  Prideaux,  Taaffe, 
Hacker,  Brewster,  Kirke,  Lisle,  Ginkell,  Sanfield,  Rooke, 
Byron,  Michelbourne,  Brewster,  Vero,  Dallas,  Quentto, 
(^lintayne,  Hunibold,  Yenner.  Shirley,  Blake,  Halkett, 
Straughan,  Evelyn,  Sydney,  Spenser,  Clay  pole,  Walton, 
Trercce,  Level  is,*  lihodes,  Malet,  Breakspeare,  Hume, 
Cochrane,  Walcot,  Holmes,  Thomhill,  Turviae,  Kllia- 
son,  ttc. 

I  think  it  will  be  admitted  that  many  of  the 
above  names  are  eminently  suggestive.  Trerece, 
Levelis,  and  ^lathow  or  Matthews,  would  by  their 
wills  elucidate  Cornish  genealogy  in  the  aeyen- 
teenth  century.  Cornish,  Gates,  Dangerfield,  and 
Walcot,  might  throw  side-lights  on  celebrated 
conspiracies.  But  I  need  say  no  more.  I  have 
for  many  years  been  mailing  cfForts,  but  fruit" 
lessly,  to  draw  attention  to  these  colonial  records, 
and  spent  a  great  deal  of  time  in  compilings  a 
volume  connected  with  the  subject;  but  such 
publishers  as  I  have  applied  to,  to  bring*  it  out, 
nave  evidently  run  away  with  the  idea  that 
nothing  but  rum,  sugar,  and  molasses  could  come 
from  such  places,  and  that  the  public  would  be 
disgusted  with  a  work  on  "Planters." 

J.  H.  li.  A. 

An  Old  Song  (4'**  S.  viii.  546.) — ^I  remember 
healing  this  song,  at  least  one  vernon  of  it,  in 
cliildhood,  and  hare  no  doubt  of  its  being  a 
genuine  English  ditty  of  the  good  (dd  times.  In 
the  song  I  used  to  hear  and  sing,  however,  the 
culprit  was  not  C/harley,  but  (leorgy.  I  regret 
thjit,  n«!ver  having  heard  or  thought  of  this  song 
f(»r  so  many  years,  I  can  now  recal  only  the 
merest  fragment.  Instead  of  steeds,  my  hero  stole 
r/#'»7*— mucli  more  likely.  I  give  all  I  can  re- 
member :  — 

"  ()  sa<ldle  mo  my  milk-white  steed, 
And  bridle  him  so  rarely. 
That  1  may  ride  with  .  .  \  and  speed, 
To  beg  for  the  life  of  Georgj'. 

"lie  never  n)bl)etl  on  the  king's  highway. 
Nor  has  he  murdered  any ; 
lUit  h<'  !*tole  sixteen  of  the  king's  fat  deer, 
And  sold  them  to  bold  Raleiglu 

'•  I  wish  I  was  on  yonder  hill. 

Where  of  time^  I've  been  manv  ; 
W  ith  swonl  and  pistol  by  my  ado, 
[  Id  fight  for  tlio  life  of  Georgj-." 

The  rest  has  drifted  down  the  dark  stream  of 
Lethe,  I  fenr  past  dragging  for.  P.  0.  H. 


4*  S.  IX.  Jan.  20,  '72.J 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


G5 


MoNTALT  Barons  (4^''  S.  viii.  27,  0J5,  17l>,  230, 
29(5,  374,  4iH).)— I  cannot  think  witli  W.  F.  (2.) 
that  the  fact  of  the  same  person  being  called  '*l)e 
Monte  Alto"  and  "Mowat"  in  two  charters, 
separated  only  by  a  period  of  five  years,  is  against 
my  view  of  the  derivation  of  the  latter  name.  I 
conceive  that  it  rather  strengthens  it;  unless, 
indeed,  we  can  believe  that  "  De  Montealto,"  or 
**Montealt"  (which  latter  form  I  cannot  find  in 
Scottish  record)  became  corrupted  into  Mowat  in 
that  short  space  of  time.  The  great  Northern- 
Scottish  name  of  "  Cheyne  "  generally  appears  in 
the  form  of  "  Le  Chen  "  (Chien)  even  in  Latin 
charters ;  but  in  some  contemporary  ones  is  Latin- 
ised into  "Canis,"  showing  that  our  charter- 
scribes  varied  their  practice  at  times.  I  must  still 
opine  that  there  is  a  missing  link  between  the 
Latinised  name  of  "De  Monte  Alto"  and  the 
Scottish  Mowat,  and  that  that  is  probably  Mont- 
baut  or  Monhaut,  allied  to  the  former  in  signi- 
ficationy  and  to  the  latter  in  spelling^  merely 
dropping  the  letter  n, 

W.  A.  S.  R.  some  time  ago  indicated  some  of 
the  names  which  led  me  to  form  the  opinion  I 
have  expressed  on  that  of  Mowat.  Another  and 
leas  well-known  example  is  the  Scottish  name 
"  Mushat"  or  "  Muschet,**  which  is  known  to  be 
a  corruption  of  "  Montflchet,"  which  again  is 
found  in  the  charters  Latinised  into  "  De  Monte - 
fixo.**  A  good  many  particulars,  charters,  &c., 
connected  with  the  northern  Mowats,  are  to  be 
found  in  the  four  quarto  volumes  published  by 
the  Spalding  Club  of  Aberdeen  (now,  alas !  no 
more)  on  The  Antiquities  of  the  Shires  of  Aber- 
deen  and  Banff ^  to  which,  I  may  add;  an  index  is 
attached.  C.  E.  D. 

Orphanage  (4***  S.  viii.  518;  ix.  47)  is  a  very 
incorrect  expression  for  an  orphan-home.  Fancy 
a  "girlage  "  for  a  girl's  home.  "  Orphanry,"  like 
pheasantry,  diary,  aviary,  is  the  proper  word, 
though  I  believe  it  is  in  no  dictionary.  "Orphano- 
trophy  "  is  enough  to  send  one  off  in  atrophy— a 
word  fearful  and  amazing.  "  Orphanhood  "  is  a 
g^ood  word,  and  expresses  the  state  of  being  an 
orphan.  That  the  root  of  the  word  is  Greek,  and 
the  affix  English,  is,  I  think,  immaterial,  because 
the  word  "  orphan  "  is  so  thoroughly  Anglicised 
that  we  are  never  thinking  of  op<p<u>ht  when  we 
use  it.  Anon. 

Lettice  Knollys  (4^»»  S.  viii.  480.)  —  The 
answer  here  given  is  not  a  correct  one.  Lettice 
Knollys  was  a  cousin  of  Queen  Elizabeth's,  and 
a  celebrated  beauty  at  her  court.  She  was  the 
daughter  of  Sir  Francis  Knollys,  and  married 
three  times,  —  first,  Walter  Devereux  Viscount 
Hereford,  created  in  1572  Earl  of  Essex,  by  whom 
she  had  two  sons,  the  elder  being  Robert  Earl  of 
Essex,  the  favourite  of  Queen  Elizabeth,  who  was 
executed   in  1601;  secondly,  in    1578,  Robert 


Diidlry,  Earl  of  Leicestor,  a  mamage  the  queen 
iiover  forj^ave ;  and  thirdly,  Sir  Christopher 
Blount,  who  was  executed  in  IGOl  for  participa- 
tion in  the  rebellion  of  her  son  the  Earl  of  Essex. 

Lady  Blount  (more  generallv  known  as  Lady 
Leicester)  died  on  Christmas  l)ay,  1634,  at  the 
age  of  ninety-four. 

It  is  a  curious  coincidence  that  the  Lettice 
Knollys  mentioned  on  page  4d0  should  also  have 
had  three  husbands.  E.  W.  R. 

Provincial  Glossary  (4'*'  S.  passim ;  viii.  381, 
441.) — Surely  the  reference  to  ^^Wayland  Smith's 
Cave,"  at  p.  442,  should  be  to  Kenilworihj  not 
Ivanhoe,  J.  S.  Udal. 

Early  Recollections  (4'**  S.  viii.  passim.) — 
In  answer  to  T.'s  request,  I  can  say  that  I  too  can 
remember  an  incident  which  took  place  when  I 
was  two  years  and  two  months  old,  and  another 
when  four  years  old.     •  F.  H. 


^tftrrllanrau^. 

NOTES  ON  BOOKS,  ETC. 

Itetters  from  Lord  Brougham  to  William  Forsyth,  Esq., 
Q.C.y  LL.D,,  late  Fellow  of  Trinity  College,  Cain- 
bridge.    (Not  published.) 

All  who  ei\joyed  the  privileji^e  of  numbering  the  late 
Lord  Brougham  among  their  friends  will  be  pleased  with 
this  little  volume,  in  which  Mr.  Forsyth  has  printed  a 
selection  from  the  letters  received  by  him  from  Lord 
Brougham  during  the  last  ten  years  of  his  life,  and  be 
especially  gratified  by  the  Introduction,  in  which  the 
biographer  of  Cicero  sketches  the  character  of  his  distin- 
guished correspondent.    The  letters  are  not  very  remark- 
able in  themselves — for  of  course  Mr.  For^h  has  not 
printed  the  more  confidential  of  them — but  are  very 
characteristic  of  the  diversity  of  attainments,  untiring 
activity  of  mind,  and  kindliness  of  heart  for  which  Lord 
Brougham  was  distinguished.   Some  fac-similcs  are  given, 
and  are  not  exaggerated  specimens  of  the  extraordinary- 
hand  which  Lord  Brougham  ordinarily  wrote.     We  hail 
some  familiarity  with  his  usual  "  epistolary  "  handwrit- 
ing, and  venture  to  supi)Iy  a  ftew  words  which  Mr.  Forsyth 
has  given  up  as  hopelessly  illegible.   In  a  letter  in  which 
Lord  Brougham  has  written  "My  only  Cicero  here  is 
Emesti,"  the  wortls  that  follow  are — **  and  he  does  not 
say  a  word  about  the  Fragment'*.   I  would  fain  hear 
your  thoughts  on  the  subject  and  [here  two  words  ille- 
gible   ]  discussing  their  authenticity." 

Letters  and  Papers  of  John  ShiUingford^  Mayor  of 
Exeter,  1447-50.  Edited  hy  Stuart  A.  Moore,  Esq. 
(Printed  for  the  Camden  Society.) 

This  is  the  second  of  the  New  Series  of  Publications  of 
the  Camden  Society,  which  the  council,  acting  in  our 
opinion  with  great  judgment,  commenced  on  the  Ist  of 
May  last.    The  volume  dififers  in  character  fVom  any  of 
its  predecessors,  and  consists  of  a  number  of  documents 
and  letters  which  were  rescued  from  imminent  destruc- 
tion by  the  editor  when  engaged  in  arranging  the  very 
valual)le  and  voluminous  collection  of  archives  of  the 
City  of  Exeter.    They  relate  to  suits  between  the  CJor- 
poration  and  the  Dean  and  Chapter,  arising  out  of  a 
matter  of  great  consequence  in  those  days,  namely,  the 
respective  Jurisdictions  of  the  Mayor  and  dbrporation,  and 
of  the  Church—a  dispute  which  bad  grown  up  through  a 


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[4«»  S.  IX.  Jas.  20,  TS. 


long  coarse  of  veara,  and  which  it  is  not  doing  much  iii- 
juBtice  to  Shillingford  to  say  be  contrived  to  bring  to  an 
issue.  Much  curious  li^ht  is  thrown,  in  the  course  of 
the  various  articles,  allcfi^ations,  Stc,  on  the  municipal 
and  capitulnr  bodies,  their  respective  condition,  privileges, 
&c.  But  the  most  important  part  of  the  book  is  un- 
questionably that  in  which  we  liave  thn  letters  of  the 
zealous  mayor,  John  Shillingford,  written  from  London  to 
inform  his  fellows  of  the  progress  of  the  suit.  These  letters 
are  among  the  earliest  specimens  of  English  private  cor- 
respondence that  exist,  and  may  fairly  be  considered  as 
amongst  the  most  remarkable.  "The  peculiarly  minute 
manner,"  says  the  editor,  "in  which  Shillingford  de- 
scribes all  his  proceedings,  giving  the  ipsissima  verba  of 
his  conversations,  and  noting  all  the  small  incidents  of 
the  interviews  at  which  he  w}is  present,  are  sufficient 
alone  to  recommend  them  to  students."  We  go  further 
than  Mr.  Moore,  and  say,  to  recommend  them  to  all 
intelligent  readers.  The  book  is  indeed  one  well  calcu- 
lated to  induce  all,  who  take  nn  interest  in  tlie  "  good  old 
times,"  to  join  the  Camden  Society,  for  whose  members 
alone  it  has  been  printed. 

Elementajry  Treatise  on  Natural  Philosophy  by  A.  Privat- 
Deschanel^  formerly  Professor  of  Physics  in  the  Lya'-e 
Jjouis'le- Grand,  Inspector  of  the  Academy  of  Paris. 
Translated  and  editcdy  witfi  extensive  Additions^  by 
J.  D.  Everett,  M.A.,  Professor  of  Natural  Philosophy 
in  the  Queen^s  College,  Belfast.  In  Four  Parts.  Part 
III.  Klectricity  and  Magnetism.  Illustrated  by  211 
Kngravings  mi  Wood,  and  one  coloured  Plate.  (Blackie 
and  Son.) 

We  have  already  done  justice  to  the  importance  of  this 
Introduction  to  Natural  Philosophy  in  our  notice  of  the 
two  preceding  parts.  We  may,  therefore,  limit  ourselves 
to  pointing  out  the  advantage  which  Professor  Everett's 
translation  lias  over  his  original,  in  consequence  of  his 
having  so  recast  it  ns  to  introduce  into  it  many  of  the 
results  of  Faraday's  and  Sir  Win.  Thomson's  researches 
in  electricity  and  magnetism,  which  are  still  but  imper- 
fectly appreciated  by  French  writers. 

Dkatu  of  Afzklius.  —  Intelligence  has  only  ja>*t 
reached  this  country  of  the  death  in  September  last,  at 
the  ripe  age  of  eighty-six,  of  Arvid  Augustus  Afzelius, 
the  learned  Swedish  Archneologist,  known  to  many  Eng- 
lish readers  by  the  Collection  of  Popular  Songs,  ^venska 
Folkvisor,  in  three  volumes  with  the  music,  which  he 
))ublished  in  conjunction  with  Geyer ;  and  by  his  Collec- 
tion of  Swedish  Historical  Legends,  Svenska  Fulkets 
Sayohaefder,  which  he  commenced  as  long  since  as  18.-J9, 
and  completed  in  1K70,  the  last  part  relating  to  Charles 
XII. — since  which  period  genuine  popular  legends  may 
Ikj  said  to  have  ceased  to  exist. 

Thk  late  Rkv.  Willia^i  Soott. — We  regret  to  an- 
nounce the  death  of  this  eminent  and  learned  London 
clergyman.  The  Rev.  William  Scott,  vicar  of  St.  Olave, 
.lewrj',  die<l  on  Thursday  the  11th.  Mr.  Scott  was  for  \\\)- 
wards  of  twenty  years — from  IHIV.)  to  1860 — perpetual 
curate  of  Christ  Church,  Iloxton.  He  vacated  this  incum- 
iK-ncy  on  l>eing  nominatetl  by  Lord  Chancellor  Campbell 
to  the  vicarage  of  St.  Olave,  Jewry.  He  was  distinguished 
not  only  for  zealous  discharge  of  his  clerical  functions, 
but  for  numerous  contributions  to  theological  and  general 
periodical  literature.  For  many  years  ho  Avas  the  editor 
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better  known  in  recent  years  for  his  connection  with  one 
of  our  contemporaries.  Mr.  Sitott,  who  was  born  in  1811, 
and  graduated  at  Queen's  College,  Oxford,  in  1835,  was 
a  m(^erate  High  Churchman. 

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discoverer  of  vaccination,  who  was  bom  at  Berkeley,  lived 
and  died  there,  and  was  buried  in  the  chancel  of  the  pariah 
church. 

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quaries on  Tliursday  week  was  Mr.  Shirley  Brooks.  On 
the  announcement  of  the  ballot  an  old  F.S.A.  and  ftiend 
of  the  new  Fellow  was  heard  to  chuckle  to  himsdf  Fal- 
staff 's  exclamation  :  "  Such  Brooks  are  welcome  to  us.** 

In  accordance  with  an  invitation,  addressed  through 
Dr.  Schafl*  of  New  York  by  the  committees  appointed  tor 
the  revision  of  the  Old  and  New  Testaments,  several 
Professors  of  Biblical  Literature  in  America  have  been 
formed  into  two  companies  for  the  purpose  of  co-operating 
with  those  engaged  in  this  work  at  Westminster. 

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been  inscribed  on  a  marble  tablet  and  affixed  to  the  wall 
in  the  rectory  gardens : — 

"  The  shy  perennial  fountain  here  the  ivy-tods  among* 
Fit  emblem  of  his  modesty  and  pure  undoing  song^ 
With  daily  crystal  draught  refreshed  our  Poet's  fragile 

youth 
Aniiil  the  precious  opening  buds  of  Genius,  Grace^  and 

Truth 
'I'>e  spectral  wrath  had  clouded  in  despair  the  noble 

mind, 
Si'lf- loathing  yet  so  loving,  still  so  boon  to  all  man- 
kind. 
Oh  stranger !  in  your  heart  of  hearts  let  tender  reter^ 
I  ence  dwell, 

I      And  love  of  loves  revived  to-<lay  at  Grentle  Cowper^s 
well." 


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MARMiOJi.    Aduodedmo  edition  published  about  im  illiulrated  with 

TH'^Sfo?  cS*Bi8TMAS  published  about  1S36,  illuBtrated  with  nu- 
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lit  Edition. 


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Varia  Pokmata  de  ooRBurro  Statu,  etc.  Basil,  1557.  Or  any  other 

Brrhard'us  DK  COSTEMPTU  MUXDI.    1499.    Or  any  other  Edition. 
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In  our  Notes  on  Books  Icut  week,  Mr.  Carlisle's  Round 
the  World  and  Captain  White's  Substantive  Seniority 
Army  List,  should  have  been  described  as  published  hi/ 
Henry  S.  King  &  Co. 

R.  W.  H.  N.  (Dublin.) — Be  good  enough  to  say  where 
the  account  of  Buddhist  Utee  may  be  seen,  as  we  can  only 
■find  room  for  the  reference, 

R.  H.  S.  S.  (S.  K.  M.) — Have  you  read  the  papers  that 
appeared  on  Bridt  in  4«»»  S.  viii.  424  ;  ix.  19  ?  ir  not, 
perhaps  you  will  be  good  enough  to  do  so,  atui  supplement 
them  if  necessary. 

X.  (Manchester.) —  Where  will  a  letter  fiiul  you  .<' 

U.  E.  Wilkinson  (Penge). — The  lines  ** Earth  walks 
on  earth  like  glUtering  gold,"  with  variations,  have  done 
duty  in  Melrose  Abbey  and  in  several  churchyards.  They 
hate  been  adapted  from  a  quaint  old  poem,  entitled  Five 
Wounds  of  Christ,  by  William  Billyngs,  a  poet  of  the 
fourteenth  century,  whose  work  was  published  at  Manches- 
ter in  1814,  4to.    "  N.  «fe  Q."  S^^  S.  i.  389  ;  ii.  55. 

JuNll  Nepos. — All  the  heraldic  dictionaries  endorse  our 
description  of  the  Cornish  arms,  as  given  at  p.  562  of  our 
last  volume.  The  number  of  bezants  may  vary  in  the 
shields  of  the  different  Earls  of  Comuxdl. 

J.  R.  H.  (Hyde  Park  Gate.)— Tlftc  word  Syzo  on  the 
title-page  of  one  of  the  works  of  the  Tinclariaji  Doctor 
seems  to  be  either  a  coined  word  or  a  misprint.  In  the  col- 
lected edition  of  his  works,  1712,  the  passage  raids  "  being 
Essays  of  Divinity,"  §-c.     See  "  N.  &  Q."  3' <»  S.  v.  359. 

W.  A.  B.  CooLiDGB  (Exeter  College).— a>n»«/^  The 
Ethnology  of  the  British  Islands,  by  R.  G,  Latham,  M.D., 
18A3.    "  N.  &  Q."  1«*  S.  vii.  120,  136,  246. 

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us  in  an  imperfect  state— folio  two  was  missing.  Will  you 
be  good  enough  to  supply  us  with  the  Habits  of  the  Royal 
Heads  on  belts,  and  to  repeat  your  kind  offer  ? 

Erratum.- 4**»  ixj.  38,  col.  i.  line  10  from  bottom, 
/or  «  Wovel "  read  «  Wood." 

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NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


LOSBOS,  BATOBDAT,  JASUARY  IT.  I8II. 

CONTENTS.— N>  213. 
TEa:  — Orinrin  of  Tichlmnin,  68  —  I-onl  BrouKhMn  and 
it«riitniv.  Ik.  —  Cluunx  ILLitiircd.  TO  —  Uaafnt  U  a 
umfriHHilii™  Funeral  a  Huiidml  Tears  Ajro.]l  — Let- 
Tt  Of  Juniui  — "Dainol{urop»"and  •' BaUle  oT Dgrk- 
le  "  —  X  iimpia  dv  Bottea  —  Muni  UeeoratiOM-Uhira'Hi- 
loniinniHlal  I«soriptlora  —  Sliiftulnr  Bequest  —  Otlavn 
VlDia  ~  All  apt  Quolatiun  —  Al)i-iiictli)>'i'  "  Hi'avRnly 
■realis^"  IfiM  —"Spit  (or  lack  iif  MalUr"  — "JIoHiit 
iouia  "  and  btr  Heloaio,  71. 

IKRIES:  — A  l>r!ii(  QiKry,  T3  — AriatnpliaiiiH  — Ait'll- 
..... _  ,^,^^  „  Ifcrnio  -  Biijiojw  K««-lii»Hi. 


m  Fly  FIhIiIkc-  llalhit.  _. ,_ 

tinml.  and  itllwlmar  —  Bunainrtv*!  Dictum 

wi|ii<-kl— Carleaturct-  " ■.  ii......      ~«. 

m-hL-  liy 
'harleatt 


Th-Liira 

■kl  — Caricature-  —  Cninwdl  Hcltca— "  Tin-  Eatiniilj- 

~  lij>  FalericK  BarrocriD— TheCuunrU  uf  Kiibunui- 

idoi;  (■IllHrli  — lletiry  luch— "MarrUoewitli 

Kitr*  »lakT"  — HBttarr  Hedalu  —  Numii- 

wlk-— Oxford  UaiiiM  — llr.  I^rUia  — Lr>  I>i»crwd6- 
..T\i»-  Rnyal  llea'l.  <in  Bi-llii  -  SnnKiiiiRa  -  Ur.  WilliBni 
tp:dc  —  Tlw  Si.T<.ii  Tnwiii  or  UoHiiid,  74. 
:i'LlK>l:  —  '■  By  HiKik  or  by  Cruok."  77  -  1*.  E.  A. 
loliohf,  HI  —  Funeral  iif  Qiitni  Carullnr, /i.  — J^icuUtR 
.1)£i-ni  — BuniBiiiui  -  Olnlral  Kniflilk  — "  Bu)b(ie(ims" 
-  Ri-lks  or  ODviT  L-romwell  — Uliimaira  ai-il  Ch'tHri.i  — 
M\in  •HI  llorhebiek—  BnvHhi  —  "  Mlirht  uinkeH  Uulit " 
-"  Qukljnei-t  in  terrt  iiiai  la'H'l  uiiiln  cailaf— AnHi-nt 
■ti>i|tma  —  Huiebam  —  "  Imir  l>n-iiiiiii  l>[f[)[y"  — (iavM 
taolnii-iaineH  lUildic  aud  Ji.liii  Hithlk!  -  Ki^-a  and 
.Vrirtita— (WiriiioT-Uvrriioiil"— Waii-liI-aiH-ni-TlHi 
A'lAU'-iat  V\K^>-t  n  Simir-lai  —  SnYiii  lllaU  —  iWA 
haiiKK  iiT  MeMiiuK-niil  IIhoi  — Lady  tirlK'k- UBllle— 


[-Iiri>li>ii 


— Mdei-W'-rLli  Ueiinl-Mr-. 


OUIGIX  Of  TICmtORXE. 

The  iiiU^rcuc  »t  proKuiit  nttftchinj;  to  tbU  ii 

ill,  I  presiinio,  lio  siillicient  apilogy  for  Bouie 

^ninrka  upon  it.   It  in  pkinlv  of  toe  tiipographieal 

.■pe.     Tbi!  fund  HI  lien  tal  principle  iif  audi  immes 

take  to  bit  tliflt  they  consist  of  n  atnfooient  of 

vrtain  nntural  UtidmHrliH  bv  whiuh  thu  epot  rC' 

erred tnmiglit bu rt!Ciijnii«ed.   Thoslreiim  implied 

11  Tiphbiimc,  pxipurly  Titehbnnie,  flows  from  be- 

hiul  ti  tidgc  whtch  wouUl  formerly  bo  callod  a. 

liriyht.    One  of  the  dialectal  forms  of  this  word 

'"^''^Ich,"  which,  like  "height"  itself,  pro- 

tttly  highth  from  hiph-ptli,  whs  formed  from  tbe 

old  third  person  singular  of  "  high"  treftted  tut  a 

^frb.    Although   the  letter  g  is  now  qtup."cent, 

''iu^h"  was  in    some  dialects  pronounced  gut- 

iMillj  aft  "  hiK'h,"  traces  of  which  nro  still  to  bf 

■wtwith,    Tlnis  Tligham  Ferrers  is  pronounceil 

Kit-ham  1'.,  and  in  tbo  I'enk  district  wo  bavti 

^jct  (higher)  Tnr,  so  called  to  distiiiguisb  it 

mm  Mam  Tor.     Taking  then  "high"  as  "hig," 

*e  should  from  "  biggeth  "  get  "  hitch,"  just  aa 

[  'hit  a  man  "diggeth"  makes  "ditch."  "Hitch"' 

*ra  occurs  in  names  of  places.    We  have  tw 

HitAMDB  tteially,  and  another  slightly  disRuiaed 

HiH«Mh»m,not  far  from  Sandrin^fhara.     Hitch- 

rarton  w  ibe  dtemative  name    of    llughendon 

'V3'-">«-ion).   Again,  llitchin,  Herts,  readilv 

™=w»  »  unthei  iiutance.    If  Oko,  the  naiuu 


iiader  reriew  were  Hitchboma,  or,  as  the  name  of 
the  stream  is  actually  writton,  Itchonboumo,  it 
would  be  perfectly  natural  and  intelligible,  mean- 
ing simply  Hillbrook.  J^ut  the  initial  letter  of 
'lltchbome  is  indicutiTe  of  some  foreign  elemeot, 
and  baa  still  to  be  accounted  for.  Kow  it  was 
not  nnusual  to  dcsignato  localities  by  means  of 
prepoutions  prefiniHl  to  certain  liindmarks  ndja- 
d'nt.  In  this  w«y  "up,"  "to"ftnd  "at''weru 
ln!<iuently  employed.  Wo  find  places  called  Up- 
liill  litcniily,  and  luiuiy  more  compounded  with 
tills  name  diiiguisi'd  as  Applu,  as  iu  Appluton, 
iilherwisu  Apputtoii  iiuiir  Ilumiw,  Appleby  and 
Appledntt,  iiot  forgetting  Apeldooru  ntar  De- 
venter,  llelgium.  Appen,  m'«r  the  latter,  and  our 
>iwn  Kpping,  may  stand  tot  Up-han  (bi'igbt),  but 
more  probably  tlier  represent  "  upping "  as  in 
Uppingham  and  Oppenheim.  Under  Ihu  head  of 
the  "  ups  "  L4, 1  conceive,  to  bo  placed  the  famous 
TrinobfintcR,  s.i  preposterously  perverted  into 
Trovnoviiiile,  iS"«w  Troy.  I  analyse  it  into  Trin- 
nh-fiiuit,  that  is,  Treeii-iip-thc-neigbl,  and  so 
niiiki!  it  equivalent  to  l''pi>ing  (upping)  Forest, 
"  tri'en  ''  being  the  old  plunil  of  "  tree."  'Further, 
we  hiiveiiainescompiiiindcd  with  "  to," its l\)thule 
(Tothill),  and  Tolhan  (Tote-haii)  as  in  Totten- 
ham, Lastly,  wu  also  lind  "at"  Kimilarly  em- 
iiloyi'd,  as  in  Atlndh  amps  tone,  Attlebridge,  &c.  . 
In  'scvi^rnl  iiiNlances,  us  if  to  guide  us  to  the  true 
>iri}rin  and  meaning  of  Hucb  names,  we  find  the 
wnrdH  expressed  in  full,  as  in  tbe  old  names 
Ilftivwu  atlii  Hull,  Havering  atte  Bower,  and  in 
the  still  used  naniea  Sutton  at  Hone  (height),  and 
CiiH'  at  lloo  (height).  In  not  a  few  instances, 
on  tliR  other  hand,  these  prepoi^ilions  coalesce 
with  the  nouns  to  which  they  arc  pretixcd,  so  as 
to  form  one  word  with  them,  leaving  no  trace  of 
themselves  but  their  final  letter,  after  tbe  manner 
of  other  words.  Thus  "  John  a-noke  "  stands  for 
Joliu  atten  (at  an)  oak "  (Wright's  Cham-er, 
GloM,  a.  !'.  "  Xale"),  sterling  for  easterling,  and 
Strother  (Rreue'g  Talr)  for  Hanl's-Rotber 
flleights' -marsh).  In  tbio  way  I  hold  that  Toot- 
ing means  At-booghtbg,  Tonbridge  .-it-hone- 
bridge  and,  as  will  liave  bi'eu  anticipated,  Titch- 
borno  At-hitchbonie.  Syuouymous  with  Tilch- 
bomc,  and  almost  parallel  in  form,  is  Tilbroiik, 
Beds.  W.  B.  a.  L. 


LORD  BROUGHAM  AND  LITERATUEE.* 
It  is  impossible,  on  reading  the  Munmin  just 

Eublished,  not  to  be  struck  with  the  little  Lord 
Irougham  has  to  say  about  his  performances  in 
literature,  by  no  means  the  least  of  his  achieve- 
ments. 'The  Inst  volume,  compriijing  tbo  period 
when  ho  -wToto  most,  has  evenless  than  the  otlicra. 
I  have  cefrniiii'd  from  publishing  my  Itibliogram 
on  Brougham  till  the  publication  of  the  Memoin, 


•  Cootinuad  (torn  i*  B,  viii  623. 


70 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<h  s.  IX.  Jax. 


in  X\w  f.xpt'rtatioii  thai  probably  much  of  my 
;rroiukd  W()uld  iiavo  been  ^^ne  over :  unlbrtunately 
fiord  Brou^liaui  has  scarcely  touched  upou  it. 
In  this  his  lordship  has  followed  his  predecessors, 
for  if  we  take  the  autobiographies  or  memoirs  or 
Iive3  of  litemry  mtm — men  who  have  devotod 
their  whole  lives  to  literature — it  is  difficult,  if  not 
impoHsible,  to  mention  a  single  one  who  has  j:iven 
a  tuitnloyne  rdiaoiinr  (»f  his  works.  Tako  such 
lives  as  Locklisrt's  Scott  or  R()swell*8  Jnhnmn. 
(■an  anytiiiii^'  be  more  defective  than  thr  hibli- 
ogrnphy  of  either':'  (h*  again,  Jerdan  or  Churlos 
Knigiit,  or  John  Bauim^  or  worse  than  any,  John 
Walt.  All  these  works  being  most  interesting, 
but  from  a  bibliographical  point  of  view  most 
miserable. 

I  want  information  as  to  authors,  «&'C.  of  the 
folh)wiiig  pamphlets.  The  first  is  signed  *'  Augli- 
cus,"  and  is  entitled — 

(7.)  \  lerter  to  II.  B.,  Kwj..  M.P.  for  the  (!<iuiity  (»f 
York,  on  the  |ire*«ent  .state  of  Kngli»h  represfntation. 
Lonil.  Kidgway,  18fJ0. 

(H.)  The  expediency  of  a  property-tax  foiiiidenil 
ill  relation  to  the  ohjections  of  P^arl  Grev  and  I^inl 
lin)U^ham.  Lood.  F.  C  Westley,  lOJ,  Stiauil,  X^'.W, 
( Anijn.) 

The  following   has   l)eeii   attributed   to    Lord 

}>rougham.      Seo  Jilarkn'oo(r,s  Maij.  for  August, 

JH.'Jl,  for  a  most  viruleiitly  abuhive  article :  also 

Edin.  Iteo.  liii. : — 

(i».)  Friendly  advice,  most  n*s|M('tfully  Mibmitleil  to 
tliu  Monse  of*  Lonls,  on  the  Uefumi  liill.  ;>iil  edit, 
^ond.  llidgway,  ix.'Jl. 

This  anonymous  pamphlet  elicited  anothor,  un- 
titled— 

Observations  on  a  pamphlet    falsi-ly  attributeii    t»»  a 
.;;reat  {)crson,  itc.  I^oud   J.  Murray,  1831.     (Also  anony- 
mous.) 

(10.)  Jurv  trial  in  Scotland,  improvcil  1)3' beiii;;  tx- 
tonded.  A  Iftlcr  <o  the  Lord  ('hancellor,  hv  a  nn  inlM-r 
<»f  the  Scottii^h  IJar.  Edin.,  Laing  &•  Forlxis.  I^oi'. 
(IVud.) 

The  foHowiug  pamphlet  is  signed  "Junius'* 
at  the  end  : — 

( 1 1.)  A  letter  to.  &c.  on  the  buhject  ol"  the  Ma;;i>l  racy 
<»f  l'ji;;land,  tic.  I^ond..  ttc,  for  the  aulhor,  &c.  C'aw- 
ihorn,  JSo'J. 

i  have  somewhere  seen  the  following  (No.  VI) 
attribut«'d  to  Archbishop  Whatt»ly,  but  of  course 
a  r«"ffrence  to  his  lifi'  bv  his  dau«ilit<'r  dotjs  not 
enlighten  out',  :is  the  bibliography  in  that  is  just 
as  bad  as  in  most  works  of  the  kind : — 

(I'i.)  A  b'tter  to,  ^:c.,  containing  ch.servations  on  the  . 
Measure  of  IJefonn  now  under  consideration  of  I'arha-  ' 
nipnt ;  in  .^o  far  a-  it  respects  the  executive  y:overnnient  : 
of  I  Ills  (Country.     r»»nd.,  llidgway,  It^.'L*.     (Anon.) 

(l.J.)  Si-li'ctions  from   the  Speeches,  &c..  with  a  lirief  . 
Memoir  of  his  Lordship's  Life.     Lond.,  IJidgway,  1832. 
(Anon.^ 

The  advertisement  is  dated  fi'im  ( 'anibrid;:e. 
I  should  like  to  have  had  a  li^t  of  wnrk?  c'edi- 


cated  to  Lord  Brougham.    The  only  one  '. 

is  — 

( I'i.)  The  Villago  poor  house.    By  a  ooimtr; 
[in  verse.]    Lend.  1832— 

the  dedication  to  which  mentionH  LoidBn 

as  *'  first  in  talents,  first  in  honour,  and 

the  opinion  of  his  contemporaries.'* 

Olphab  B 


CIIAUCKU  KESTORED.— Xo.  IL 


?» 


**T11K  a>URT  OF  IA>VE. 

1.  It  is  alleged  that  the  Court  of  Lttce  v 
written  by  Chaucer.     Let  ^o  intelligent 
compare  the  following  parallels: — 

1. 

''The  bloss(»m.s  fresh  of  TuUiiw'  ganleu  sttU^ 
Focnis  of  Virgil  taken  here  no  root.** 

C»urt  nf 
**  When  that  April  with  his  8ho\r*res  «»/r. 
The  drought  of  March  huth  pierced  tu  the  ruu 

Fivlogut  > 

Identical  in  rhyme  and  metre. 

2. 

"  Uf  false  .Kneas,  and  the  wainiuuliug.*' 

Omri  ofi 

'*  That  ever  heard  ^>uch  waimentinj^."* 

*'  The  great  clamour  and  the  waiuieiiting.'* 

:j.  ^ 

"  Thev  were  arrayed,  and  did  their  sacritice 
Unto  the  god  and  goddess  in  their  guise." 

Qiurto/L 

*'  The  h<»rnt<.s  full  of  mead,  as  was  the  cuisc 
There  lacke-.l  nought  to  do  Iheir  saunlice."   . 

KiikfhC$  7 
4. 
"And  pleasiuitly  with  heartes  ol>cu»nce. 
So  nuiht  llu'v  lowlv  do  their  olMervance." 

CouHofl 

"  Doth  .*!o  hi.s  rereiuonies  anil  obeisance. 
And  keepeth  in  semblunt  all  his  observance." 

Squirt'*  T 

"  And  did  also  his  other  obstTvances." 

Tmiiusum 

*•  Why  shM'p»'/i  ye  ?  it  U  no  ninhtertalo.** 
"To  matins  went  tiie  lu-ity  nightingale." 
**  lie  mi^^ht  n<»t  sleep  in  all  the  nightertale." 

Cnurttfh 
'^  So  hot  ho  loVed  that  by  nightcrtale 
lie  sle|it  no  more  than  doth  the  nightingale." 

Frfti*tgue  C 
6. 

'*  She  smote  me  throu^^h  the  very  heart  an  blif 
And  Venus  yet  I  thank  I  am  alive.** 

CtmriofU 

"  Tlioy  wen;  full  ^dad  to  excusen  them  full  A/nw 
Of  tiling,  the  which  thev  never  a-guilt  [in] 
live[s]." 

Proi.  Wife  if  Ba 

"  iJrt-rt«'v]  than  Virgil,  while  he  was  on  live 
Or  iMutf <> )  also,    ^t'ow  let  us  ridefn  j  blive" 

Frimr-iU 


Jan.  27,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


71 


7. 

rords  said,  she  caught  me  b}-  the  lappeft]/' 

Court  of  LfOVf. 

oUus  he  brought  in  by  the  lappeft]." 

Trtmus  and  C. 
8. 

Idess  bright,  my  fortune  and  my  «r«." 

Court  of  Love. 
fortune  and  on  ure  also/' 

Complaint  of  the  Black  Knight. 

jms  to  me  that  the  ring  of  the  metal 
ke  throufjh  all  these  passages ;  but, 
ere  is  in  the  Court  of  Ij)ve  a  palpable 
'  the  Complaint  to  Pity — viz.  in  stanza 
encing — 

iirine  surmounting  all  in  stont'.t  rich, 
h  the  force  was  pleasance  to  mine  eye 
amond  or  sapphire,  never  like 
lone  seen,  ne  wrought  so  wondorly." 

"  a  tender  creature 
ed  there,  and  Pity  is  her  name." 

inly  refers  to  the  "  Death  of  Pity,''  and 
written  subsequently  to  the  (^omplaint, 
the  author  of  the  latter  would  dare 
jr  to  another's  work  ? 
we  have  no  MS.  autlioritv  for  ascrib- 
urt  {if  Lqvc  •  to  Chaucer,  the  want  of 
!re  proof  of  a  negative.  There  being  no 
mt  in  the  field,  I  hope  that  my  country- 
lanimously  book  the  claim  for  Chaucer, 
lear  his  fame  from  a  possible  charge  of 
t  plagiarism.  A.  Hall. 


1  allow  me  to  say,  before  Mr.  Hall 
irther  with  his  "  Chaucer  llestored,'^ 
r  he  nor  any  one  else  may  assume  from 
3nt  of  mine  that  "The  Court  of  Love," 
k  Knight,"  "  Chaucer's  Dream,"  '^  The 
.  Nightingale,"  are  **  admittedly  contem- 
with  Chaucer's  youth — that  is,  l.*J58- 
Any  one  who,  considering  the  pre- 
f  knowledge  of  Early  English,  admits 
f  Ladies  "  or  "  Chaucer's  Dream,"  espe- 
e  of  the  date  of  13o8-(>5,  only  pro- 
eby  that  he  ought  to  enter  himst^lf  at 
ege  School  for  a  course  of  Early  Eng- 

ickow  and  the  Nightingale  "'  is  evi- 
n  inferior  hand  to  Chaucer's,  no  doubt 
ae  admirer  and  successor  of  his,  who 
3oem  by  quoting  two  of  his  master's 
"  Knightes  Tale,"  11.  l78.')-0- 

k1  of  love,  ah !  benedicite, 

nyghty  and  how  grete  a  lorde  is  he !  " 

of  Tennyson's  admirers  might  write  a 


iclined  to  investigate  the  matter  turth(>r  will 
le  question,  as  regards  the  Court  of  L(tre^  very 
by  Mr.  Waring  in  The  Academy  for  Noveni- 


poem,  after  his  death,  on  the  theme  of  two  of  his 
teacher's  lines.  Echoes  of  Chaucer  will  be  found 
in  many  poems  written  after  his  time,  as  in  the 
"  Flour  and  the  Leaf."  F.  J.  Furnivall. 


USAGES  AT  A  DUMFRIESSHIRE  FUNERAL 
A  HUNDRED  YEARS  AGO. 

Mr.  Atkinson  (4"»  S.  vii.  298),  describing  the 
customs  at  funerals  in  Cleveland,  reminds  me  of  a 
statement  which  I  found  in  the  MS.  notes  of  the 
late  Mr.  W.  F.  Hunter  Arundell  of  Baijarg  Towef, 
to  which  1  have  already  referred  (4^'*  S.  vii.  491) 
in  regard  to  the  customs  at  funerals  in  Dumfries- 
shire some  hundred  years  ago.  It  is  pleasant  to 
know  that  such  scenes,  as  must  have  sometimes 
occurred  on  such  solemn  occasions,  have  long  been 
a  matter  of  the  past,  and  are  unknown  in  the 
present  times.  The  services  of  wine  and  spirits 
at  funerals  have  been  put  down,  I  believe,,  in 
everv  parish  in  the  South  of  Scotland;  not  so 
much  owing  to  the  prevalence  of  the  principles  of 
total  abstainers,  as  because  it  was  felt  by  the 
respectable  classes  of  the  community  that  such 
Expenses  were  an  unfair  and  improper  tax  on  the 
poor,  at  a  time  when  they  were  least  able  to  bear 
It.  The  attempt  to  discontinue  such  services,  it 
was  knovni,  could  only  be  successful  if  the  example 
were  set  by  the  higher  classes,  and  in  no  instance 
did  they  refuse  to  join  in  the  praiseworthy  object. 
The  following  is  the  paper  to  which  I  refer :  — 

'*  IS'**  July,    177.').   Copy  of  the  expenses  of  Laird- 
holme's  funeral  paid  by  Edw.  Irving  of  NViw'by : — 


£   «.    d. 

2  doz.  Lisbon 1  IG    0 

H  doz.  Port 

.1/0 

\\  doz.  Port 

.       1        7       •! 

1  doz.  TeneriflV    . 

.     IMS     0 

1  doz.  Malaga      . 

.     11  1<     n 

20  pints  of  Rum  at  .'J/O 

.     r.  !•»     0 

Cash 

.010 

1  lb.  Souchonne  . 

.070 

1  lb.  IJohea  .... 

.    0    ;j    4 

15  lb.  lump  sugar 

.     0  10     0 

12  doz.  pipes 

.     0     2     0 

I  lb.  smal  twist  . 

.010 

2  lb.  common  twist 

(»     2     H 

1  lb.  snuff    . 

0     I     4 

2  screw^s       .... 

0     2     4 

4  flint  glasses  2|,  2  single    . 

U     2     G 

£11     9    8 

I  may  add,  that  the  property  of  Lairdholme  is 
in  the  parish  of  Tundergarth,  in  Annandale,  and 
belonged  one  hundred  years  ago  to  a  branch  u'C 
the  great  Border  family  of  .lohnstones. 

C.  T.  R\MAOE. 


Letters  of  Junius.  —  May  I  hope  that  the 
Lord  Chief  Justice  of  England,  before  he  sums 
up  in  The  Academy^  will  look  at  a  brochurt  of  my 


72 


.  NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


lA^  S.  IX;  Jan.  «7,  "TS. 


deceased  ftieiid  Mr.  Jelinper  Symons,  which  t<> 
ray  mind  conclupivoly  shows  that  William  J5iirki» 
was  J  imius  ?  MAKiiocnEiu. 

"  DamkEliiova  *'  AND  "  IUttlr  of  Dokktn'cj." 
In  nijilving  up  my  Annual  Cataloiriu*  tA'  IJonks 
published  in  1871,  I  am  ilcr^irous  In  iurludo  tlio 
titles  of  all  tho  pamphlets  mid  brocliures  sprin>:in<r 
from  the  JUumv  Europa  tract  and  the  lUittle  of 
Dorkhuj  article.  Perhaps  some  of  your  subscribers 
can  help  one  for  the  benefit  of  the  '^  coming  man." 
I  have  about  forty  titles  of  the  formor,  and  twelve 
of  the  latter. 

Editor  ok  "The  PiTnLisirKK's  CincuiiAU.'* 

188,  Meet  Street,  London. 

[  Kcplics  to  be  fonvarded  direct  J. 

A  PRGPOS  DB  BoTTES. — Th(»  followinpf  note  is 
evidence  of  the  march  of  civilixation ;  at  all  events 
there  is  something  fresh  on  foot  in  iSouthom 
Europe;  doubtless  to  the  intense  disgust  of  the 
lovers  of  the  picturesque.  In  his  Iteport  on  the 
Trade  and  Commerce  of  (Jeneva,  Consul  Brown 
remarks  upim  the  curious  feature  in  the  leather 
trade,  in  tuo  fall  of  ox-hides  as  compared  to  cow- 
hides;  consequent  upon  the  cessation  of  the  de- 
mand for  the  heavv  leather  which  was  so 
extensively  used  in  the  Lttvant,  Greece,  and 
Southern  Italy  for  buskins,  the  semi-barbarous 
natives  having  continued  until  quite  recently  to 
use  bits  of  tough  leather  roughly  sewn  to  lit  their 
feet ;  whereas,  as  they  are  becoming  more  civilized, 
they  are  talking  to  shoes  of  the  ordinary  lOuropean 
typi*.  (See  Conmlar  Iteports,  No.  2,  1871. ) 

PlHLTP  S.  KlX(J. 
34,  Parliament  Street. 

Mural  Decorations. — In  tho  fine  old  churcli 
of  Kirkby  Malhamdale,  in  Craven,  are  two  mural 
paintings — for  they  do  not  deserve  the  name  of 
*'  decorations."  One  is  a  skeleton,  with  the  legend, 
"Kemeniber  Death";  tho  other  is  Tinio,  with 
scythe,  hour-glass,  •fcc,  and  the  legend,  **  Make 
use  of  Time."  The  church  has  had  many  a  good 
coat  of  whitewjish:  but  the  above  figures  have 
always  been  spared,  which  is  more  than  can  bt; 
said  for  General  Lambert's  monument  in  the  same 
church.  StFiI'iien  .Iacksox. 

The  Flatts,  Malhani  Moor. 

ClITNKSE   MONTMKNTAL  iNSCRirTlONS. — As  the 

subject  of  epitaphs  has  for  sonu;  tinu^  Inien  popu- 
lar, perhaps  a  literal  translation  of  one  on  a  t(»mb 
at  Kowlo»»n,  S.  C'hina,  may  be  int<»resting  from  its 
being  a  typo  of  tho  Chinese  style.  The  present  U 
a  plain  record  of  facts,  and  does  not  tax  the  credu- 
lity of  the  friends  of  the  deceased.  Tlie  transla- 
tion was  made  by  an  interpreter  at  llong  Kong, 
and  I  cannot  therefore  explain,  here  and  there, 
an  obscure  allusion  :  — 

*' Monument  of  the  old  gentliMuan  lloo  <>U(mg  San^% 
who  liveil  in  tho  present  Tsinj;  Djynasty,  and  wjls  burial 
on  the  22nd  dav  of  the  'Itli  ni(»nth,  in  tijo  ]Klh  voar  of 


Ktihinp*  in  fills  Jiourhhing  picco  of  ground  called  Nfpm 
Loklin^,  sittiato  on  the  {geometrical  or  local  ?]  character 
Ting-Tse,  fatiin^  Kap-ut.  In  tlie  28th  year  of  Tow- 
Kwong,  tlio  proprietor  of  this  land  declined  in  fortune 
and  ifrHtini/  \  ?~|,  for  a  [)ortion  of  it  was  cneronched  (« ly 
sonic  fanuiTs." 

"  It  [?1  n-semblcd  thi^  honni  of  the  Dragon,  and  ytt 
nuLwiihstanuing  the  tunib  having  beeya'duly  repaiied, 
the  posterity  of  the  deceased  has  failed"  [in  prosperity.'] 

Again  — 

<*  This  piece  of  ground  has  been  compared  to  a  green 
(Tab  ej(^cting  water.  It  was  of  the  best  descriptiiHi,  Int 
these  farmers  maliciously  damaged  it." 

"  *  *  Kroctwl  by  IIoo  Tin  Cheong,  grandson  of  the 

dofoased." 

On  tho  usual  adjoining  Htruclure,  sliaped  like 
an  arm-chair,  is  a  tablet  with  this  inacription:— 
"  Tlie  Spiritual  St'at  of  the  IIoo  Fainilv." 

Sp. 

Singular  Beuuest. — The  following  cutting 

from  the  ICceninij  Standard  of  Jan.  2,  1872,  ▼ill 

interest  manv  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."    How  many 

records  of  old  customs  would,  but  for  ita  existence, 

have  been  for  ever  lost  to  us,  who  can  tell  P   And 

to  its  pages  we  turn  to  fmd  anything,  from  "we- 

destination  to  slea-silk,"  and  with  the  feeling  tLftt 

we  shall  not  be  disappointed :  — 

''  Yesterday  afternoon  a  sermon  was  preached  in  the 
parish  uhurcli  ufSt.  Maenus-the-Mart^T,  London  RridKr, 
hy  the  Rev.  A. .1.  M'Caiil,  M.A.,  the  rector,  in  confonpilv 
with  thii  will  of  Mr.  Henry  Clokcr,  a  late  member  of  tlie 
Grocers'  Company.    The  will  is  datod  1573,  and  oontaias 
5uimo  singular  clauses  ;  one  of  which  is  that  the  masUr, 
the  wardens,  and  court  of  assistants  of  the  Coopers^  Gom- 
pany  shall  attend  divine  service  und  a  sermon  preMM 
on  New  Year*s-day  in  the  afternoon  for  ever.    The  pro- 
perty consists  of  two  small  estates,  the  proceeds  of  which 
are  divided  amongst  tho  clergyman  and  tho  officers  of  the 
company,  and  for  other  jmrposcs.    One  of  the  meet  bd- 
^ular  points  in  the  will  is  that,  in  the  event  of  the  Coopen* 
Company  failing  to  carry  out  the  various  bequests  wiUi- 
out  showin;;  sufficient  reason,  the  property  shall  be  f(V- 
fcitiul  to  tlie  GrtK'ors'  Com])any.    At  the  conclusion  of 
tilt.' sermon  the  clerk  to  the  Coo{)er9' Company  read  the 
will,  after  which  the  curiously  antiiiuatcu  procoediof^ 
terminated." 

JOUN  PiCKFORD,  M.A. 

II ungate  Street,  Pickering. 

O'lT.vvA  RiMA. — It  has  been  asserted  in  some 
reoont  review^s  of  the  works  of  J.  H.  Froe 
(Whistlocraft  lirothers),  that  Mi*.  F.  wa*  the  in- 
troducer nmonp^Rt  the  T^nj^lish  of  thofltalion  ftffowi 
rinia.  This  is  nut  correct.  Fairfax's  Tatto^ 
Tfarnn<rton\s  Orlando,  Fanshaw's  Lugiad,  are  all 
in  the  stanza;  and  numerous  other  examples 
might  be  ([uoted.  N, 


from  Marmiotty  "  On,  St«idey,  ou ! " 


*  The  date  of  the  above  is  June  16,  1814.  An  Emperor 
of  China  receives  another  name  after  death. 


4*  8.  IX.  Jah.  27,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


73 


Many  ypaw  ago,  at  a  public  brcalffant  or  dinnor 
in  the  aaine  town,  whero  the  ]3i^hop  of  Chn.qt^r 
(Sumner)  and  the  late  Earl  of  Derby,  then  Lord 
StanlcTy  irere  preffent,  the  Ke^.  Iliiuh  M^Neile, 
now  Dean  of  Itipon,  still  more  fdicitouHly,  and 
in  hid  case  with  undoubted  originality,  ox- 
claimed;  in  the  cuur8e  uf  his  speech,  turning  tirnt 
to  the  Bishop  and  then  to  Lord  Stanley/'  Charge, 
Chester,  charge !  on^  Stanley,  on  !  " 

Those  who  have  ever  heard  Doctor  M'Xeile 
speak  in  public  will  appreciate  the  exquisite  grace 
aod  p>iut  with  which  tne  quotation  was  delivered. 

J.  W.  W. 
Winobeiter. 

AiiRKVKTnr's  "Heavenly  Tkratwe,"  1(>2(). — 
LTpon  the  title-page  of  A  Chridian^s  Heavetdy 
TmitiAf  amtainrntj  Physic  for  the  Siml,  written  by 
Abernetliy,  Hishop  of  ('aithne88,  and  publislit'd  in 
Loudon,  iiiiHlj  small  quarto,  there  is  writteu  **  Li- 
ber Joannis  Bettison,  Pretium  ^2*  4*',  1^)^**  Man^^ho, 
IGSG.**  Ah  this  is  evidently  the  price  of  tlu) 
volume  at  the  period  it  was  given  to  the  world, 
the  notandum  is  not  without  value  as  contem- 
porary' evidence  of  the  price  of  a  volume  of  up- 
wards of  four  hundred  pages  at  that  date. 

The  bishop's  production  has  pretixed  many 
commendatory  verses  in  Latin  and  Enij^lish.  Of 
the  former  there  is  one  by  **  Patricius  Sandreup,'' 
Principal  of  the  Edinburgh  University  at  tlitt 
time :  and  of  the  latter,  a  poem  by  no  less  a  per- 
son than  Sir  William  Alexander,  subsequently 
known  aa  Viscount  of  Canada  and  Earl  of  Stirling, 
a  celebrated  statesman,  but  who  in  now  btwt 
known  for  his  liecretdums  with  the  Mttsen — a  work 
in  which  will  be  found  many  beautiful  lines. 
Some  of  the  passages  in  his  monarchic  tragedies 
are  tndy  admirable. 

Abeniethy  was  one  of  the  bishops  deposed  at 
the  well-known  Glasgow  Assembly  of  1($;$0,  of 
which  a  most  amusing  description  will  bo  fnund 
in  the  amusing  volume  of  ScatUih  PoMjuiU,  of 
which  a  second  and  enlarged  edition  was  printed 
at  Edinburgh,  1808;  Pater8on,74,  Vrinces  Street. 

The  bishop*s  excellent  work  is  thus  referred  to 
in  the  volume  just  mentioned : — 

**  Both  M>ulo  and  bodcy  Cathna?  curo!<,  then  nonu  but 
onlie  he 
Tru  jiastor  and  phifflCian  may  only  termed  be.*' 

This  is  complimentary  enough,  more  especially 
aa  the  other  bishops  are  somewhat  ditierently  re- 
presented in  the  same  poetical  trauslation  from 
the  original  Latin  verses.  J.  M. 

•^SriT  POK  LACK  OF  Matter."  —  Li  As  You 
Like  It,  Act  IV.  Sc.  1,  Ilosalind  says  — 

"Xay,  you  were  liettcr  speak  first;  nntl  when  you 
were  ^pravullcd  for  hwk  of  matter,  you  mi/;lit  take  <Hkui- 
sion  to  kiia.  Vm-  jjood  orators,  when  they  are  out,  they 
will  apit  (  and  for  lovcn,  lacking  (GckI  warn  u.sl)  matter, 
tiM  ckanliMt  shift  is  to  kUn." 


Shakeftpearo  hero  allud«'j*  to  the  following  pas- 
sage in  the  Euphues  of  Lyly  : — 

**  Without  duuht,  Euphuw,  th«m  do-st  me  j;reat  wrong, 
si'ifkiii;^  ii  bkur  in  u  smooth  »kiii,  thiukin;^  to  stop  a  v:iin 
wher  none  is  opened,  and  to  cast  love  iu  my  teeth,  which 
1  liHVJ'  ill  ready  uplt  out  of  vnj  iiiouthy  which  I  muxt  neudn 
think  proeee«leth  rather /iir  lavke  of  uuUter  thou  any  (ifood 
meaning,  eU  wouldunt  thou  never  harp  on  vat  string 
which  is  bunt  in  my  hart,  and  yet  ever  sounding  in  tliy 
ears.'* 

W.  L.  RUSUTGN. 

**M0T1IKR  GOOKK^'  AND  IIEU   MELODIES. — The 

story  of  Williaiu  TelPs  shooting  the  apple  off  his 
son's  head  has  been  .recently  deuied,  and  it  has 
even  been  Htoutly  alllrnieil  that  William  Tell, 
never  existed.  Ah  some  nlight  compensation  for 
this  loss,  it  is  gratifying  to  know  that  *^  Mother 
GooH*"!  *'  was  a  r(>al  p<'rA<>nn<:f'.  Tliis  fact  is  learned 
from  «n  el»»«iaiit  and  expmsivo  quarto  edition  of 
her  *'  Mt'lodit's  "  ])ii1)li:*hi>d  in  New  York  in  Jyt»l>, 
an  edition  eiiibellinhed  with  admirable  comic 
iliufltrations. 

Th(»  family  of  Vorgoos,  Verdegoos,  or  Goose 
existed  in  Jloi^ten,  Massachu.sett8.  Thomas  Field, 
a  native  of  the  parish  of  Whitchurch,  Shrop- 
shire, Eiigliuid,  married  Elizabeth,  the  daughter 
of  I^aac  and  Elizabeth  Ver{:»ot»s.  Field,  before 
coming  to  America,  was  a  printer  in  Bristol.  lie 
gave  offence  to  the  mob  oy  displaying  a  halter 
whilst  a  proce-ssion  in  honour  of  Dr.  Sacheverell 
was  passing  his  printing-ollice.  For  this  he  wa« 
ccmi^K'Hed  to  leave  Bristrd,  but  alter  a  bhort  stay 
in  Lindon,  ventured  back  to  liristol,  where  ilnd-, 
ing  himself  still  unpopular,  lie  concluded  to  come 
to  America.  He  collected  the  nursery  songn  sung 
by  his  mother-in-law  to  hi.s  eldest  child,  luid 
publi.-Hlied  them  under  the  name  oi Mother  Hooves 
Melodic*.    Tier  dt>.<«cendants  are  still  in  lioston. 

UXBDA. 

Philadelphia. 

A  PRINT  QUEKY. 

I  have  long  held  an  opinion  oppvuid  to  that  of 
the  printsellers  and  collectors,  that  those  very 
dark  and  often  line  impressions  of  the  early 
engravers,  which  just  now  fetch  such  high  prices, 
are  not  always  the  early  impressions.  In  par- 
ticular 1  woiild  mention  Albert  Durer's  ".Tem- 
perance ''  or  '*  Great  Fortune,"  and  more  espe- 
ciallv  Lucas  van  Ivcvden's  "  Mahomet  killing  the 
monk  Sergius.''  ^rhis  beautiful  print  is  dated 
1  o08,  and  w  rertainly  very  fine  in  every  way,  and 
was  execut«»d  when  the  artist  was  fourteen  years 
old. 

Now  I  liave  a  peculiarly  delicate  impression  of 
this,  iLs  ])orfoct  as  the  day  it  was  printed.     All       - 
the  background  is  so  light  as  almost  to  require  a     M 
magnifying  gla^s  to  see  it  perfectly,  but  still  most     * 
crisp,  and  without  any  Fuaplcioi\  ot  vteox  v\l  Wi^ 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4'»«  S.  IX.  Jah.  S7,  78. 


plate.  Is  not  this  just  what  wo  should  expect  of 
the  print  of  a  boy  of  fourteen,  at  a  time  when  en- 
graving was  quite  in  its  infancy  ?  But,  ns  a  fact, 
the  much  darker  and  more  brilliant  inipressiuns 
are  generally  considered  the  earliest  and  best. 

Against  this  I  have  always  held  the  probability 
of  the  lighter  work  being  the  original,  done  when 
the  young  artist  had  exquisite  delicacy  and  taste, 
but  less  power :  and  the  fact  that  in  my  copy  at 
least  the  mark  of  the  coast  line  is  contmued 
through  part  of  the  trunk  of  the  great  tree,  which 
was  not  so  in  the  darker  and,  as  I  think,  the 
later  impressions.  This  has  been  denied  by  con- 
noisseurs, who  have  alleged  that  thi.s  continuation 
had  at  some  time  been  put  iu  carefully  in  pen  and 
ink ;  but  last  week  a  somewhat  dilapidated  copy 
was  sold  at  Sotheby*8  with  the  same  mark  through 
'  the  ffreat  tree. 

Would  those  of  your  subscribers  who  possess 
this  fine  print — either  in  a  light  state  or  in  its 
richest— examine  this  particular  point,  and  let  us 
know  their  opinion  about  my  theory  !•' 

I  believe  that  in  both  these  prints,  and  in  fact 
fleveral  others,  the  respective  artists  ret«mched 
their  weaker  and  more  delicate  plates  in  after  life. 

I  ('    I 

Abistofhan  ks. — 

'*  The  poRsibility  of  producing  an  ail(Hiiiate  trannlation 
of  an  entire  play  never  would  have  entered  into  his  (Mr. 
J.  Hookham  Frerc'H)  mind,  but  from  the  example  of  his 
friend  Mr.  W.  Hamilton,  who  Imd  himself  completed  a 
translation  of  almost  the  whole  of  Aristophanes." — Me- 
moir of  John  H(Htkham  Frere^  p.  rclxiv.  note  1,  Works, 
yoL  L  Pickering,  1872. 

What  is  known  of  Mr.  Hamilton's  version  be- 
yond this  ?  Where  w  it  ?  What  is  it  ?  Prose  or 
vexse  P  Q. 

[The  only  published  translations  of  William  Richard 
Hamilton,  Esq.  F.R.S.  (obiL  July  1 1, 1859)  known  to  us 
an  the  following :  (1.)  Esmy  on  the  Birds  of  Aris- 
tophanet,  by  J.  W.  Silvern,  translated  by  W.  K.  llaniil- 
too.  Lond.  1835,  8vo.  (2.)  Two  Essays  on  the  Clouds 
and  on  The  rrjpas  of  Aristophanes,  Ijy  J,  W.  Silvern, 
translated  by  W.  K.  Hamilton,  Lond.  183G.  Both  pub- 
Ufihed  by  John  Murray  of  Albemarle  Street.  | 


Abtificial  Fly  Fishing. — Charles  Cotton, 
who  was  the  first  to  systematise  this  art^  died  in 
1687.  *  Leaving  out  of  the  question  the  many 
"Complete  Anglers,"  "  Perfect  Anglers,"  &c.,  who 
were  the  chief  writers  on  Hy-fishing  after  him, 
■uch  as  Bowlker  (who  wrote  in  174<))  and  Bain- 
bridge  (in  1816),  to  Jesse,  Sir  H.  Davy,  and  the 
numerous  authors  of  late  years  ?  Also,  where 
can  I  meet  with  nn  exhaustive  catalogue  of  works 
on  fishing  ?  I  know  the  BihUoiheca  Ptucatoria 
a'lded  to  the  Piscatorial  Remvixscc-nces  published 
by  Pickering  in  1835.  Pelagius. 

[('ertaiiilv  the  best  catalogue  is  by  our  vnluetl  corre- 
Mp<)ndent,  Mr.  Thomas  Wk5*twood,  entitled   A    Afiv 


Biblitttheca  Piscatoria  ;  or.  Genera/  Cuiaioame  ofAMgiu^ 
and  Fishing  Literature,  with  Bibliojfrapktad  Ihttt  mad 
Data.    Lond. :  The  Field  Office,  846,  Strand,  1861.] 

;      Ballot  at  Romb. — Was  the  ballot  lued  in  the 
introduction  of  Christianity  into  Rome,  as  is  ft»- 
I  quently  asserted  by  reliable  authority  P 

A.  S.H. 

I      Bishops  Ethelnoth,  Stigahd,  avb  Eihxl- 
!  HAR. — Can  any  one  inform  me  whether  the  three 
I  following  bishops  were  related ;  and  if  so,  how  P 
'  I  have  in  different  books  found  eacli  of  them 
described  as  the  son  of  the  .^derman  or  Earl 
of  Cornwall :  — Athelnoth,  or  Aaelnot,  Bishop  of 
Canterbury,  1020;  Stigand,  Bishop  of  Elmham 
and  Dunwich,  1034;  of  Winchester,  1047;  and 
of  Canterbury,  1052  [1043 P];  and  Ailmar,  Ethel- 
mar,  or  Egelmar,  Bishop  of  fllmham,  1047. 

J.  A. 

BoNAFARTic's  DiCTUM. — Can  any  kind  readw 
give  nie  the  exact  original,  or  tell  me  where  to 
hnd  it,  of  Napoleon's  dictum  that,  ^'  in  w«r,  the 
moral  force  is  to  the  physical  force  as  three  to 
one,"  or  some  such  proportion  ?  £.  A.  H. 

The  Lord  Boqueki. — My  father  taking  me  as 
a  boy  to  Battle  on  a  market  day,  I  was  presented 
by  one  of  the  farmers  with  an  eightecni-peni^- 
piece — the  bank  tokens  then  in  general  cucnU- 
tion— with  the  observation,  ''You  look  as  neat 
and  smart  as  my  Lord  Boqueki."  And  on 
various  occasions  in  my  early  days  I  heard  the 
expression  as  applied  to  anything  new  and  fresh. 
The  last  time,  some  five  or  dx  years  since,  wait- 
ing at  the  Newhaven  station,  a  farm  labounr 
brought  a  portion  of  a  plough  to  the  station 
freshly  painted  with  bright  red  and  blucL  when  he 
was  accosted  with — ''  Well,  I  should  think  that 
is  made  for  my  Lord  Boqueki,  it  do  look  so  tar- 
nation new."  1  asked  him  who  his  lordship  was, 
and  he  told  me:  '*All  things  that  he  Tired 
(fired  P)  new  we  calls  his,  down  in  these  parts." 

Whence  the  origin  of  the  application  and 
name  ?  —  the  spelling  of  which  may  be  inoonecty 
but  1  have  given  it  as  pronounced.  -     H.  W.  D. 

Caricature. — I  picked  up  an  old  engraving 
lately,  and  would  be  glad  to  know  the  meaning 
of  it  and  the  name  of  the  person  satirised.  It  is 
entitled  ^^  A  Candidate  1 ! !  Generalissimo  of  the 
Janisaries.^*  H.B.  del^  et  sculpt.  A  verv  stout 
well-dressed  gentleman,  in  the  costume  d  a  cen- 
tury ago,  sits  m  an  arm  chair,  with  both  his  less 
up  to  the  knees  in  pails  marked  ''Buttermilk^; 
his  right  hand  grasps  a,  flint  musket  with  fixed 
bayonet,  on  which  is  impaled  a  cap  of  liberty,  Teiy 
much  torn ;  his  left  hand  rests  on  a  hook  in- 
scribed ^^  P e  Accounts,"  under  which  is  a 

scroll  bearing ''  Report  of  the  CommitteA^"  ^  Deep 
Peculation,"  "  Clothing,  &c./'  <'  Arma^  Aeoontn- 
nients,  &c.''     On  the  gentleman's  Ibiehead  aie 


4*ail.  Jw.ST.TS.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


tho  initials  "  M.  T." ;  hia  two  watch  chains  have 
letters  stniiiK  on  them,  msMns  up  the  words 
"  KiiBTai;  UM  •Dishonour."  A  sheaf  of  muskets 
in  one  comeris  labelled  "  For  Musterdaj."  Sume 
baca  of  monev  tie  marked  "For  private  uae," 
"  Plunder,-'  &c.  The  wall  at  the  back  of  the 
figure  ia  adorned  with  a  portrait  entitled  "  Buck- 
ingham," also  R  Sue  ana  Cry,  in  which  the  foU 
lowing  words  are  legible:  "Reward  —  Votes  — 
Daj  Money  —  Bobbery — In  William  Street- 
Murder— Lost."  A  bunch  of  tallies  labelled  "  sure 
vules  "  hangs  upon  a  nail.  I  have  made  the  above 
description  as  accurate  as  1  could  in  the  hope  that 
sunie  part  cf  it  mny  give  a  clue  to  the  name  of 
the  indiTidus],  W.H.  P'. 

Cbohwkli,  Relics. — Could  your  contributor 
Ub.  RiiCBAirLT  kindly  inform  me  where  the  relics 
iif  Oliver  Cromwell,  mentioned  in  "N.  4  Q.' 
4''  S.  viii.  550,  are  to  be  inspected  Y  A  relative 
has  a  portrait  supposed  to  be  that  of  the  Pro- 
ti'utAr,  and  I  should  be  greatly  gratified  if  I  were 
enabled  to  verifv  the  assertion.  E.  J. 

Ul,  Nelaon  Square,  S-t:. 
"Thk  EnToitBiiBKT,"  BY  Frderigo  Bab- 
Riiccio.  —  Among  the  pictures  beloii)iing  to  the 
Mnrquis  of  Westrainater  at  the  South  Ki-iisinglnn 
Museum  there  is  an  Entiimbment  ascribed  to 
Federigo  Barroccio.  On  the  first  scriH^ii  on  the 
left-hand  side  of  the  Dycc  Collectinii  there  is- 
also  aa  Entombment  ascribed  to  Federigo  Bar~ 
roi-do.  This  latter  is  an  engraving  by  ^gidiua 
Sadeler  (who  died  in  1039,  seventeen  years  after 
Barroccio),  but  it  is  from  an  alfj^ther  dijlerent 
design  and  picture.  Did  Barroccio  paint  two 
of  tiie  same  subjects,  and  with  none  but  tbe 
moat  distant  relationship  ?  The  question  is  in~ 
teKsting  on  several  nccounts,  but  specially  bo  to 
nie,  because  I  have  a  picture  on  cupper  which 
■)!rees  wholly  with  that  engraved  by  t^udeler, 
ti<«pt  that  the  top  of  mine  is  square  and  that  of 
Ibe  engraving  semiciicular.  There  is  no  doubt  of 
tbcage  of  my  little  picture,  which,  if  not  an  original 
"f  this  valued  master,  represents  an  original  which 
"ught  to  be  found.  B,  H.  Cowper. 

Thb  Cotmcn,  of  Ephbsub.— It  is  remaTkablr 
''>«t  at  tfaiscoundl  the  Nicene  creed,  aa  oriRinally 
'''awn  up  and  published  by  tbe  Council  of  Nice, 
*"«■  alone  recited  and  appealed  to  aa  tbe  sole 
*'atidard  of  orthodoxy,  the  important  alteration.^ 
'?ade  in  that  creed  both  by  omission  and  addi- 
^on  by  the  Second  (Ecumenical  Council  beicf; 
'^Us  entirely  ignored.  This  is  the  more  remsrk- 
^le,  because  at  the  Council  of  Chslcedon  both  the 
'^icene  and  the  Constantinopolitan  creeds  wer>' 
'^fdted,  and  both  referred  to  as  the  joint  standard  > 
*J_  orthodoxy.  The  additions,  too,  made  to  th.' 
^UMme  oaed  by  the  Council  of  Constantinopl-K 
^«re  enfiraed.  Can  any  of  yyur  correspondents 
*X{1h&  tUt  drennutance  and  account  lor  it,  o  r 


CiiiRi.Es  SiSDOE  Gilbert.  —  Is  there  any 
record  of  the  death  of  Blr.  Gilbert,  who  wrote 
,4ti  Huioriciii  Sumt'i/  of  the  Counli/  of  ComwaU, 
tS17-20,  2  vols,  royal  4to.  The  only  notice  re- 
Mrding  his  decease  that  I  have  been  able  to  find 
is  in  the  Rev.  John  Wallis's  Cin-nwall  RegiOer, 

S.  313,  where  it  snys,  in  speaking  of  him :  "  He 
ied  I  boUevc  in  London.  The  last  time  1  saw 
was  in  a  small  house  at  the  end  of  the  Strand 
church."  Worth,  in  his  Hidortj  of  Dcnmport, 
i&ya  he  died  in  1831,  but  gives  no  authority  for 
Ihe  statement.  By  the  kind  permi^ion  of  the 
incumbents  of  St.  Mary-l4-Strand  and  St.  Cle- 
ment Danes  I  have  had  the  burial  registers  of 
tliese  pari;ihes  searched  without  finding  any  entry. 
Mr.  Gilbert's  Hittonj  is  no  doubt  the  beat  ever 
piibli>ilied  abnut  Cornwall.  It  is  now  a  comnara- 
lively  wiarce  hi  lok,  and  even  when  met  with  seldom 
piiSHesBUs  »  complete  set  of  the  engravings. 

George  C.  Boabr. 
IIkkrt  Inch.— What  authority  ia  there  for 
stating  that  Henry  Inch  was  tbe  inventor  and 
desi^'ntT  of  the  ca.-H>mated  ffallerics  at  Gibraltar^ 
Mr.  Inch  wa.'S'b'irn  al  Ludgian  in  Cornwall,  and 
died  in  tbe  y<'Hr  ISOO.  George  C.  Boasb. 

"Markiagk  with  a  DECEABEn  Wife's  Sister." 
Will  one  of  your  numerous  readers  inform  me 
where  I  sliall  find  a  full  report  of  the  debate  which 
took  place  last  session  on  the  "  Stiirriage  with  a 
deceased  Wife's  Sister"  Bill,  and  the  nauie'i  of 
the  various  metabera.  who  voted  for  and  against 
the  bill  on  the  same  being  thrown  out?  Also, 
what  works,  if  any,  have  been  published  on  the 
Biibjtct,  and  where  I  should  be  able  to  obtain 
co}»e«?  R-U. 


LTlie  ItiH  * 


I*  H»u 


February  1ft,  the  m, „    _ 

1-2.1  li>  11.  Ttiellouw  went  intn  Committi*  on  March  8 
(Ayw  M!>,  Noes  M4)  ;  ajjaiQ  on  the  Slti  (Ave*  133, 
NiieH^IH);  anil  tbe  Bill  wiu  read  Btbiid  time  OD  March  10. 
Thi'  Bill  wa»Tea<laBecondtiinein  tbe  House  of  Loida  on 
March  27.  and  rejected  bv  a  maJDritv  o(26:  theDumbera 
for  Ibe  rejection  beiaK  97  against  71  in  favour  of  tin  Bi>l. 
The  (lebflUs  will  be  found  In  Thr  Tima  of  ths  davs  fi'l- 
lowini!  on  those  on  wfiiefi  thev  took  place  i  but  ths  llat 
of  members  voting;  is  somelimea  nnavoiilably  delayed 
until  the  wcond  day  after  a  division.  Tbe  Marriage  Law 
Anicndinent  Society,  31 ,  Parliameot  Street,  Wesuniutsr, 
ban  we  believe  published  aome  tracts  in  favour  of  Mar- 
riage with  a  Di-ceawd  Wife's  Siater  i  and  tbe  Scripti 
Areument  at:Biii)it  it  will  be  foaiid  in  the  pam|' 
the  kle  Bev.  John  Keble,  pnblbihed  -bv  Parker  of  Uui 
Strand.  Other  recent  wurka  on  the  Marriage  with  ■  De- 
ceased Wire'.s  Sister  are  bvJ.F.Denbsm,l847i  Dr.E.B. 
Pnaev,  1^9  ;  Dr.  J.  A.  flewey,  1856,  Kiviiigtons  ;  ami 
F,  N.  Rogers.  18j.i,  Rivinelon»-] 

MiLiTABT  Meqals, — Will  you  or  any  of  the 
numerous  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  kindly  inform  me 
where  I  can  see  engravings  or  drnnings  of  thf 
following? — 


ie  Scriptural 
pampUet  by 


76 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4th  S.  IX.  3mm.  tJ,  71 


1.  (Jold  Diodal  frtMii  tlio  Kin*?  of  TruPHia  to 
"Mr.  WilliATii  Murphy,  a  private  ^roiitl<»?nan  of 
tho  troop  of  Guardft  of  his  Majesty  thb  Kiiij.'  of 
Great  Mritwn/^  April,  1721. 

2.  (fold  modal  from  the  (iueon  of. Spain  to  each 
of  tho  oflioors  of  the  Irinh  Ih-ipradn  *<  for  their  high 
senpo  of  honour  during  tho  attack  on  tho  city  of 
Fontarabia  in  1702." 

f\.  (Jold  modal  to  Subadar  Ibrahain  Cawn,  let 
battalion,  .*?rd  regimont,  Hombay  Infantry,  *'for 
his  gallant  and  poldier-liko  attack  of  a  pagt^da 
near  Oanvar."    llombay,  Aug.  IHOO. 

4.  (lold  modal  to  Mustapha  Hog,  Ist  battalion, 
Irtt  Native  Infantry,  "for  giving  tho  only  intima- 
tion which  was  rocoivcd  of  tho  projected  mutiny 
at  VoUoro."  Madras,  Aug.  1S0<>. 

5.  (lold  modal  from  tho  Highland  Society  to 
(^^^po^al  Mackay,  71st  r<^gimont, "  for  his  dignified 
disiIll^•ro^^todno8S  towards  (ionoral  IJemior,  whose 
lifo  ln'  saved  at  the  battl«»  of  Vimiora  in  1801).'' 

<).  Silvor  modals  to  Jemadar  Shiook  Iloosoin, 
l*nd  battalion,  (>th  roginifnt,  Xativo  Infantry;  and 
sopoy  Hurry  ]>hoy,  1st  batlnlion,  7th  rogimont, 
Xativo  Infantry,  '*for  ox«'n>|)l:trv  conduct  at  tho 
battlo  rif  ({uunrsh  Candy.'*  Ii>inb:iy,  Nov.  IS] 7. 

7.  Silvor  medals  to  Corporal  McLaughlan  and 
four  other  .-oldiors  of  tho  7'>rd  roiriniont,  "for  dis- 
play of  heroism  and  jrcncrous  f«'(din»r  on  march 
from  Passora  tol>adulla  during  tin*  Kandian  war." 
Covhm,  181ft..  J.  W.  FLr:Mixci. 

\\\\  Marine  I*ara<lo,  Urif^hton. 

Ni'.AiiSM\Tir'. — Will  any  of  your  rmdors  t«ll 
me  whether  I  havti  bcon  corn'clly  inlonncd  that 
two  ci>irt*  or  tokens  which  I  liave  jip'  \\\\  Irish 
halfpojmy  and  farthing  struck  by  Princ**  Chnrlos 
Kdward  r*  Tho  coins  I  mention  ar«'  nf  copper, 
anrl  bear  nu  tho  obverse  a  ]»rofile  lurried  to  tho 
rij^Jit,  with  an  inscri]>tion,  *'  Voce  INipuIi '':  on  the 
i-ev^'rsi*  a  liaq),  with  "IHbemia.'*  jiiid  the  date 
"  17r»<)"  ujuha'  tho  harp.  What  is  tin-  lilstory  of 
these  Cjins!"'  V. 

F$ri^!il4)ii. 

[Finkerton,  in  his  Et^mii  on  l^rvdnh  (ii.  l'J7),  r<;marks: 
"In   I7()0  thorn  W.1S  a  prrcat  scunnty  of  i*opiMT_  coin  in 
Inil.tnd,    upoa    which    a    society    of    Irish    ;ri'nt!i'ni»n 
applied  for  Iravo,  upon  proper  nrndition**,  to  <:Min  half- 
ponec;  which  beinjj:  fijr.inteiU  tliosc  ajjiieared  with  a  very 
bad  iK>rtrait  of  (fCor^re  II.,  and  v'r»cr,  cocri.i  nnumd  ii. 
Thi»  bust  l)ears  a  mneh  prreater  n'semblancf  to  the  Pn-- 
teruler:  Imt  whether  this  was  a  piece  of  wairi^erj' in  t!ii-  j 
cn^^raver,  or  onlyarow  from  his  ii;n«iranee  in  drawin;:,  ■ 
nui«t  Im'  left  to  dojiht."     In  Liu'lsay's  Cnhinni'  of  Tnhnnl.  \ 
1K"»I>,  \\\iS  coin   i^  enj^rnvcd  in   tiio  flffh  supphMiicnl'iry  j 
]ilate,  No.  Kl,  and  in  tlic  adverti-tcnnMit,  p.  l:l!»,  th«- fol-  | 
iowinj^  remarks  on   it:    "This  enrioim   variety  of  thf 
*  voce  populi'  Imlfpenee  exhibits  n  I*  beforo  the  fare,  mid 
illustrates  IMnkerton's  remark  that  the  portrait  on  tlicst.' 
coins  seems  intended  for  that  of  the  rrctender:  it  is  a" 
y^ry  neat  coin,  iH'Hiap'ia  pattern."  ] 

OxKoun  C\Noi:s. — Canoos  W(jro  introduc<Ml  ow 
the  river  at  Oxford  mther  more  than  twenty  years 
since,  and  were  considered  to  be  novelticB.     I'hey 


hful,  howoYcr,  been  popular  in  a  prerioiw  ffenem- 
tion,  for  in  a  most  diverting  work  mtifbd  Tkt 
Yotmtf  Tran'ifern:  or,  a  Vim't to Ctfortihy  a Lidy, 
author  K^iyulims  of  rieuBure,  &c.  (1818),  I  fiad 

the  following  pasmge : — 

'*  Mr.  Tiartio}-  took  the  children  into  the  dmrahrird  of 

St.  Aldatu*s,  juNt  opposite  great  Tom 'How  tnw 

it  is/  said  he,  *that  in  the  midflt  of  life  we  are  in  doith. 
Wo  can  scarcely  «'vcr  enter  a  churchyaid  without  witr 
nessin^  the  rcconlH  of  sudden  and  accidental  dei^ 
Yonder  is  one,  pointing  to  the  i^ravertone  of  a  voug 
man  who  was  drownetl  jiwt  below  Folly  Bridse  ty  tbe 
over-ebl)in}7  of  a  daiip;cn>ns  kind  of  boat  ceUeua  cenoi^ 
much  u»<mI  fur  pleanure  till  forbiiklon  by  the  govornor  of 

the  university."— 1\  50. 

• 

I  should  be  glad  to  know  if  there  is  anch  i 
lombstone  still  to  be  seen  in  St  Aldate's;  and  if 
so,  to  l)o  favoured  with  a  copy  of  tho  inscriptiaii* 
I  should  also  bt)  j^lad  to  know  if  tho  oontemplatoi 
"  appt^ndix "  to    the    book  from  which  I  h*T* 
quoted  was  evor  published.     It  was  to  conttfS^ 
twenty-nine  ''correct  likenesses  of  curious  charao* 
tors  here  rt^fom^d  to,  with  some  biographical  <^ 
otiior  accounts  of  thorn.**    (See  "  advcrtisemeia't:' 
to  Thv   YowKj  Trarvlhrs,)     One  of  these  pUb^^ 
^'.Mothor  (}o(»s«' ''  tho  fhiwerseller,  is  given 
Hp(>oiuion  of  the  onfjrraviugs  in  quostinn.     It 
iinoly   on^^raved   and   is  signed  "I.  W. 
Who  was  ho  ? 


CnmRRBT  Bed: 


Dr.  l\viiKiNs. — Mr.  Millard,  the  London 
sollrr,  ndvt*rtisos  a  viduable  manuscript  on  mi 
by  this  author,  whi.  resided  near  Oranthamj 
boliovo,  and  died  many  years  since.    Who  wa 
and  wh«-n  did  ho  die  ?     I  understand  that  he 
lovo  chiiruis,  and  bolievod  in  magical  powers, 
Was  it  so  p  CnR.  Coo: 

I  Dr.  Parkins  nMde<l  at  "Our  Public  Office.  Ttm' 
Wisdom.  l^itMe  (bnierby,  near  rirnntham,  Lincol 
Antoiii;  his  luinxTous  works  wo  iind  ho  is  the  luitbur^' 
'/'//<?  Cnhhiit  of  Ifra/fli ;  Krif  to  the  WlsemaHu  Cn»cu,o 
the.  irm/to  U\alth,  1815;  toungMansBentCtmamio^ 
Coinplrh-  Uvrhal  ami  FamUi/  Phy«ician;  and  Tike  Ut 
nr.stii  Fort  urn'  Ttlhr,  1H2:J.] 


ctr. 


\i 

"1 


Les  PKiVrRKs   nit  PORT fis. — Whore  can  I  I 
anything  about  tho  French  Pasteurs,  or 
drportos,  in  the  first  French  Ilevolu^on, 
what  is  told  in  Vn  PrHre  flcport^^  and  Moraau'i 
IWtrcs  fnmqaU  aiw  FjUtU^Unin? 

Also,  what  information  have  we  as  to  the  fa' 
of  tho  "  onfans  trouvos"  and  other  young  persons 
(h'pondont  on  charitable  institutions  at  the  same 
ti!ho  r* 

Txyy,  AuTnoR  op  "On  the  Edbb 
OF  Tins  Storm." 


SI.  ad 


ItovAL  IIkads  ON  Bells. — Will  some  rsadns 
of  <'N.  k  i)y  who  have  a  taste  fiir  soeh  mattan 
hunt  for  the  heads  of  royalty  on  any  bells  in  their 
IiHidity  or  elsewhere,  if  they  hare  anopporluii^P 
I  niny  say  there  are  none  each  anoieoti  in  8mm^ 
set,  i)evon,  or  Cornwall,  e3Coe|rtiqg  on  a  Ml  at 


4*  &  IZ.  Jas.  27, 73.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


77 


St.  Jameses,  Devonport,  which  was  brought  from 
a  decayed  church  in  Worcester. 

I  think  only  thrco  lypos  of  lioRils  aro  known  to 
campanistB;  those  are  suppo^oc!  to  bo  of  EJwanl  I. 
and  Eleanor,  Edward  III.  and  Pliilippa,  Henry  VI. 
and  Marpraret,  and  the  young  l*rince  Edward. 

The  habitats  of  the  first,  with  the  same  initial 
cross,  are  at  Winstone,  Huntley,  Coberley  (two), 
Dyrham,  Upper  Slaughter,  all  in  Gloucester; 
the  same  at  Elraley  Castle,  co.  Worcester. 

The  second,  with  diverse  initial  crosses  and  in 
ilillt'rent  type,  'ai-e  at  Stoneleigh,  Warwick; 
Christ  Church,  Hants,  king  s  ht?ad,  only ;  Cherry 
llinton,  Cambridge,  the  queen  only,  ^vith  the 
same  cross  and  letters  as  at  Christ  Church,  West 
Lvnn  ;  Dottisham,  Cambridge :  Oowts,  Lincoln ; 
Chippenham,  Wlmsbotsham,  Northampton,  also 
at  Anipton,  Suflblk — king  only  :  at  Chaddesdon, 
Derby,  evidently  from  raucli  worn  stamps,  and 
dated  "  1742 :  by  Thomas  Hedderley  Founder," 
in  ancient  type.     He  was  a  Nottingham  founder. 

I  have  engravings  of  all  the  above,  and  shall 
be  willing  to  supply  copios  to  any  bell  archaiolo- 
gist  who  will  write  to  me,  enclosing  stamps  to 
cover  postage.  IT.  T.  Ellacomije. 

Kcctory,  Clyst  St.  Gfor^^o,  Devon. 

Sansomes. — 111  the  parish  of  Ashwell,  co.  Herts, 
38  a  field  called  Sansomes,  whicli,  previous  to  the 
timo  of  the  dissolution  of  religious  houses,  was 
church  property.  In  one  corner  the  foundations 
of  an  extensive  building  still  remain  beneath  the 
»urfaice.  The  stones  are  squared,  imd,  judging 
from  the  thickness  of  the  walls,  the  building  muflt  1 
liave  been  of  considerable  importance.  At  Wor- 
o-ester  there  is  a  piece  of  ground  which  formerly 
>>elonged  to  the  cathedral  (and  perhaps  still  does), 
«xl«o  called  San  somes;  and  I  am  told  that  adjacent 
v« »  the  cathedral  of  Ely  or  Linctdn,  my  informant 
iV  irgets  which,  there  is  some  land  known  by  the 
**ttiiio  name.  I  am  desirous  of  knowing  the  origin 
of  the  word,  and  also  whether  there  are  other 
cliiirch  lands  in  England  called  Sansomes, 

J.  E.  CUSSANS. 

Dr.  Wm.  Stiiode. — Could  you  tell  me  whicli 
is  correct—"  vain"  or  *'  vein"  in  the  fifth  lino  of 
tile  following  epigram?  The  Contemporary  Bvvkw 
(July,  1870),  quoting  it,  has  "  vmn  '' : — 

'*  My  lovfi  and  I  for  kia«<e3  played  : 

Sh«  would  keep  stakca  :  I  was  content ; 
But  when  I  won,  she  would  Ik?  paid  ; 
This  made  me  ask  her  what  she  meant. 
•  Pray,  since  I  see'  (quoth  she)  •your  wrangling  [vein] 

vain. 
Take  your  own  kisses ;  fjjive  nio  mine  again.' 

*♦  Dk.  John  [\V'imj.\m  ?|  Strodk." 

S.  II.  W. 
,  [These  playful  lines  by  Dr.  William  Strode  appeared 
J?  the  Gent.  Mag,  for  Julv,  1823,  where  we  n'ad  "  wraii^- 
^inRTayna,"  and  in«N.'Ac  Q."  l-t  S.  i.302,  "wrangle 
^^  ▼tine."  When  are  the  scattered  lyrics  of  thia  eminent 
^aroliiie  poet,  orator,  and  divine,  to  be  collected  and 


edited  ?    Sec  «  N.  &  Q.'»  l«t  S.  i.  H6,  302,  490 ;   2n'»  S.  x. 
462.] 

The  Seven  Towns  op  Holland. — Wrangle, 
Leake,  Leverton,  IJenington,  IJathwick,  l-Veiston, 
and  Fishtoft,  I  should  like  to  know  why  these 
towns  arc  so  called  H  Tiios.  Ratclikfd. 


**  BY  HOOK  OR  BY  CROOK.*' 
(4*»»  S.  viii.  04,  i:W,  100,  404.) 

In  my  opinion  this  proverbial  or  trite  express! im 
did  not  owe  its  familiar  use  to  any  of  the  in- 
genious* conjectures  to  which  your  correspondents 
have  ascribed  it,  viz.  to  two  Irish  places  of  di;- 
barcation  at  Waterford; — to  two  land-surveyors 
supposed  to  have  been  employed  in  adjudicating 
on  the  claims  of  the  inhabitants  of  London  after 
the  Great  Fire  ; — to  two  imaginary  judges  namt^d 
Hook  and  Crook,  in  the  reign  of  Charles  I.  men- 
tioned in  some  other  provincial  glossaries,  &c. 

The  use  of  the  expression,  **by  hook  or  by 
crook,"  is  traceable  t<^  an  earlier  and  more  humble 
and  commonplace  origin,  and  is  founded  on  tin* 
old  practice  of  medi:»'vail  conveyancers,  when  they 
had  to  frame  grants  intended  to  convey  or  re- 
serve a  limited  eink'mvnt  or  grant  of  dead  woimI 
for  fuel  or  other  like  purposes,  over  a  tract  of 
woodland,  which  might  be  available  without  ma- 
terially interfering  with  the  more  substantial  u.Mi 
and  profits  of  the  timber  for  the  general  purpost-s 
of  the  landowner. 

On  such  occasions  it  w.os  often  well  worth  the 
while  of  an  adjacent  tenant  or  neighbour  to  hav(^ 
or  reserve  a  precarious  authority  to  carry  away 
any  refuse,  dead,  or  damaged  portions  of  the  trees, 
provided  they  could  be  readily  removed  >vith(Mit 
material  detrimt>^t  to  the  owner  of  the  wood,  by 
simple  means,  falling  far  short  of  the  more  eflV-c- 
tivo  axe,  bill,  or  saws  incidental  to  the  fellijig  of 
timber  for  general  purposes. 

Among  these  simple  modes  of  removal  are  tin* 
hooked  poles,  or  crooks,  by  whicli  dry  or  dejid 
bits  of  wood  can  be  detached  and  pulled  down 
from  the  up])er  branches  of  a  tree.  The  ordinary 
local  glowsaries  supply  instances  of  this  kind,  such 
as  llalliwell's,  Nares*,  andGrt>se's;  in  the  latter  of 
which  the  ^^  crook-lug^  for  pulling  down  dead 
branches,*'  is  mentioned  as  a  familiar  term  in 
Gloucestershire.  'So  we  have,  in  the  old  French 
custmuals,  a  right  ixy  take  "  brancas  siccas  cum 
crocco  ligneo  sivo  ferreo'"  in  royal  forests  (Du- 
cnnge,  tit.  "  I5ranca  "),  with  other  authorities  in 
Michelet's  Oritjinen  du  I>ro{t  fraiK^ais,  edition 
liruxelles,  1838,  pp.  Ill,  112. 

A  later  instance,  and  one  near  at  hand,  and 
familitir  to  mo,  will  be  found  in  a  small  book 
printed  some  years  ago,  for  a  copy  of  which  I  am 
indebted  to  the  -late  Mr.  John'Wallisy  the  re- 


78 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*&ix.jAv.fy»ii. 


specttid  viicar  of  Bodmin  in  Corn  wall.  He  found 
auion^  the  records  of  the  Corporation  a  document 
claiming  for  the  burgesHes  of  the  town  a  right 
under  the  concession  of  the  prior  of  Bodmin  "  to 
bear  and  carry  away  on  their  backs,  and  in  no 
other  way,  the  lop,  crop,  hook,  crook,  and  bag- 
wood  in  the  prior  s  wood  of  Dunmoer.'*  Another 
part  of  this  record  calls  this  right ''  a  right,  with 
hook  and  crook,  to  lop,  crop,  and  carry  away 
fuel,"  &c,  in  the  same  wood.  The  date  of  the 
petition  in  which  this  easement  is  claimed  is  the 
year  1625. 

I  could  without  much  difliculty  supply  other 
instances  of  the  use  of  this  expression  in  its  like 
real,  htnajide,  and  practical  Mjuse  of  removal  by 
the  simple  proccsj?  of  a  pot-hook,  or  bill-hook,  or 
banger.  Such  is,  no  doubt,  the  origin  of  this  cant 
])]irast)  applied  to  the  very  diHerent  purpose  of 
i'ffecting  an  object  by  one  of  two  alternative 
means.  E.  Smikke. 


I)K.  K.  A.  IIOLYOKK. 

(4«»'S.  viii. --'80;  ix.  40.) 

The    following   lu-e   copied   from    lA'iterA  to  a 
Yotmif   PhifHician  Jufif  mtvriutf  ujam  Practice ^  by 
•James  .Iack.Hon,  M.i).,  LL.l).,  London  and  ]k)ston, 
1H6<J:  — 

**  I  will  not  uivi'  vou  a  li>t  of  the  wi»rt]iv  successors  of 

*  * 

IlipptKTHteH.  11  would  \h»  a  Ion;;  list,  though  I  Hhould 
M'lcct  tli08€  only  whose  claims  would  not  bo  disputed.  1 
nii^ht  find  8onio  such  in  our  own  land,  who  have  tinishcil 
their  rare<'r  in  the  present  (century.  I  will  indulge  my- 
self in  naniin;;  one  only ;  one  whom  I  hud  thr  happiness 
n>  know  intimately.  He  was  mv  fir>t  t»'ach»r ;  and  1 
have  been  accustomed,  with  some  others  of  his  pupils,  to 
mil  him  old  numter.  1  refer  to  the  late  Kdward  Augustus 
Ilolyoko,  M.i).,  of  Salem.  He,  like  IlippiN'rates,  lived 
more  than  n  hundred  years,  retaining  his  fticullies  men- 
tal and  bfMJily,  to  (he  end  of  his  century,  in  unu>ual  |H>r- 
fei'tion.  Hut  it  is  not  for  his  longevity  that  1  mention 
him  as  '.nti(l(>d  to  a  hi;;;h  rnnk  in  the  profe.<«>i'in  .... 

'*  Pr.  Ilolyokp  ranked  amon^  our  lir>t  men  in  \\'\>  ;:ener«il 
ncientilii'  attainments,  itut  the  :rrent  ohjcct  ol  liis  life, 
industriously  nnd  faithfully  pursued,  was  the  |iraetice  of 
medicine  in  its  various  branches.  lie  oi>s«>rved,  closely 
and  critically,  the  phenomena  of  disease  and  the  methods 
of  treating  it.  His  conceptions  were  clear  and  his  memory 
stronf;  ;  though,  like  other  old  men,  he  lamente<l  its  decay 
in  the  latter  part  of  his  life.  He  had  n«it  lost  it,  however, 
an  was  sh<iwn  on  the  day  which  completed  his  hundred 
years,  and  when  he  l>e;;an  on  a  new  century.  ()n  that 
day  a  cas4^  was  presented  to  him  of  an  unu.iual  character, 
on  which,  after  examining  it,  he  remarke<l  that  he  did 
not  recall  any  like  it,  unlesa  that  of  a  {mticnt  whom  he 
named.    This  patieni  was  one  whom  he  had  seen  ooce 

onlv,  fortv  vears  before 

**  Dr.  llolvoke  was  in  his  seventieth  vear  when  I  went 
into  his  study.  He  had  had  a  very  extensive  practice, 
hut  he  had  then  contracted  it,  so  that  he  attended  to  his 
business  on  foot.  After  a  short  time,  he  allowed  me  to 
walk  with  him  and  see  his  patients— a  privilege  for  which 
I  have  ever  felt  moat  thankful.  Mv  intercourse  with 
hi  in  waa  hi|;hl.v  instructive  ;  it  was  also  most  agreeable. 
lie  was  extri'mcly  affable,  and  had  the  simpUcitv  of 
inunner  which  belongs  to  the  true  gentleman.    Withal 


he  had  a  iilayful  lmm(»ur  and  a  most  liea^  U^gh ;  tat 
he  never  wounded  any  man*s  reputation.  Fram  mf 
very  imperfect  deliueation  of  his  charaetert  yoa  mij 
jud^.  h<)w  much  1  must  have  venerated  and  loV«d  him; 
and  I  hope  tliat  this  delineation  may  not  seem  to  have 
occupied  too  much  space." 

J.D. 


fl'ni:ral  of  queen  Caroline. 

(4*^  S.  viii.  ptutim ;  ix.  44.) 

I  have  the  *^best  authority,"^Sir  Robert  WU- 
son*8*  own  in  his  own  handwriting,  for  my  atate- 
ment  of  facts  respecting  this  idfair.    But  1^  A.  !«• 
somewhat  misunderstands  me.    I  meant  to  den^ 
the  accuracy  of  the  assertion  that  he  was  onl^ 
^'  put  upon  the  retired  list  and  half-pay/'  and  t> 
assert  the  truth,  that  he  was  absolutely  and  arli£ 
trarily  dismissed  the  service.    Of  couziae,  tlua '    ^ 
in  consequence  of  the  affair  at  Cumberland  G 
The  cama  caummg  was  political  enmity  on 
part  of  the  government,  and  personal  diaplei 
on  the  part  of  the  king— the  latter  produced 
strengthened  by  falflsbood  and  iniMiiipnianniaiiuM 
I  may  somewhat  modify  my  statement}  that  hi 
"  n?.storation   was   owing   more  to  the 
favour  of  the  king,"  &c    That  favour 
strong,  and  very  warmly  expreased;  but  I 
an  extract  from  Sir  K.  Wilson's  journal, 
shows  that  the  king  was  anxious  not  to  take 
himself  more  credit  than- was  his  due:  — 

"July  28,  1830. 

^  Went  to  levce.  The  king  took  me  by  the 
and  a^ked  me  how  [  did.  When  I  expreeied  mv  ac 
ledpnents,  the  kinp;  said,  holding  my  hand  all  the 

*  1  tell  you  the  truth.    U  was  the  recommendation  of  a^ 
cabinet  that  I  should  rentore  you.     And  God  forbid 
should  ever  Ktand  in  the  way  of  any  act  of  Ikvour  io^ 
gallant  officer.    I  feel  r|uiie  cunfidetit  that,  in  repladni^ 
you  in  my  army,  I  hliall  always  be  able  to  command  tJb» 
sword  of  a  brave  general  and  a  hiyal  subject.*  '* 

.\nother  objer.t  was  to  refute  the  imqualifief^^ 
statement,  thiit  *^  thi>  Duke  of  Wellington  mduoBf^-  ^ 
the  king  to  rt;instate   Sir  K.  Wilaun."     In 
same  journal  is  the  following  entry:  — 
"  July  2lNt. 

"  Saw  the  Duke  of  Wellington  this  morning.    He  nid,  ^ 

*  I  Bhall  only  think  of  your  $ercieeM  when  I  reftr  to  Che  ^ 
past.'  And  he  gave  me  his  hand  in  token  oi  peifcflt  ^ 
reconciliation." 

The  difierence  had  arisen  firom  Sir  R.  WQaoo'a 
eflbrts  to  save  Marshal  Noy  under  the  terma  of 

the  Capitulation  of  Paris. 
Agam :  — 

**  Lord  Aberdeen  said  all  that  a  sincere  fHend  ooaU 
sav,  and  throughout  has  acted  like  one.  Jmdttd  to  Mm, 
Sir  R.  Peel,  and  Sir  JL  Ifardinge,  J  am  wumt  mdMtedL" 

I  ought  to  have  added,  that  the  whole  of  Sir 
Robert's  half-pay  from  his  diamiasal  wm  gxtntad 
to  him  in  full  on  his  restoration — the  beat  evi- 
dence of  the  opinion  then  held  of  the  iijiHtioi  of 

his  deprivation. 


r 

■1.1 


to 


^ 


4»  S.  H.  Jah.  27, 7«.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


79 


Sir  Robert's  eldest  son,  Henry,'  died  some  years 
before  this  time.  His  second  son,  Borville,t  wuh 
in  the  Brazilian  navy.  His  third  son,  Belford 
HJnton,  was  in  Columbia,  aide-de-camp  to  the 
Liberator,  and  colonel  in  that  service.  He  was 
afterwards  successively  H.B.M.'s  consul  at  Lima, 
and  charge  d'aifaires  to  Venezuela.  In  1854  he 
was  irresistibly  compelled,  by  the  breaking  down 
of  his  health,  to  resign  the  appointments,  when 
he  received  the  K.C.B.  for  his  diplomatic  services, 
and  he  died  in  London  in  1859.  By  his  means 
the  Guano  Islands  were  secured  to  Peru,  in  a 
treaty  which  he  negotiated. 

The  next  works  of  Sir  Robert  Wilson's  which 
I  shall  publish,  are  a  minute  history  of  his  ser- 
vices as  a  "  Partisan "  in  Porlugsil  and  Spain  in 
1808-9,  and  of  the  formation  of  (Jannin^r's  ad- 
ministration, in  which  he  bore  th<.*  principal  part 
as  negotiator.  These  are  nearly  rurtdy.  I  sliall 
tlien  hope  to  continue  the  Life. 

ifEKHKUT  KaNDOJ^PH. 
Kiiigmore. 

Jacobitk  CiPUERs  (4*'*  S.  viii.  415, 559.)— I  beg 
to    offer  my  very  grateful   acknowledgments  to 
Mr.  Pettkt  and  T.  W.  G.     They  are  perfectly 
correct  in  their  suggestions  with  respect  to  the 
letter  F.     In  the  key  to  the  cipher  (which  I  may 
as  well  say  was  among  the  papers  of  Col.  James 
Griihme,  some  time  Privy  Purse  to  .Tames  II.),  \ 
that  letter  was  formed  like  an   italic  double  /,  ' 
after  a  common  f&shion  then  prevailing;  of  the 
use  of  which,  we  still  p^tain  the  vestiges  in  such 
names  9iS  ffoulkcn^  ffoUivt ,  ffarijngton^  t^v.     Appar- 
f?ntly  for  the  purpose  of  mystifying  a  document, 
'whii.-h  it  was  unsafe  to  keep  and  unwine  to  de- 
«4troy,  Col.  Grahme — who  wrote  a  coarse  bad  hand 
—  transformed  the  //'  intt)  II ;  and  followed  tht* 
cwnie  course  with  another  bitter,  of  which  he  made 
Au  W :  but  this  he  has  doiu?  so  eiU^ctuallyf  that 
the    original   of    the   palimp.s(>.st    (m)    to   call   it) 
defies  me. 

Ill  the  letter  from  '*  10"  (that  is,  L.)rd  Middle- 
ton),  to  which  I  referred  in  my  first  letter  to 
**  N.  &  Q.,*'  the  following  passage  occurs:  **M\' 
Service  to  the  Grand  Master  of  the  Jerkers."  Is 
any  reader  of  "N.  &  Q."  sufficiently  versed  in  the 
perpetually  changing  Jacobite  titles  to  help  me  to 
the  real  name  of  this  dignitarv  ? 

i'RANcis  E.  Paget. 
Elford  Rectorv,  Tam worth. 

BiTRNsiANA  (4''*  S.  vii.  viii.  passim.) — The  con- 
troversy about  the  meaning  of  pin  in  the  address 

♦  Henry  was  in  the  British  army.    IJe  died  in  f827  of 
Uver  diaeaae  contracted  in  India. 

f  **  BorvUle  John,"  second  son  of  Sir  Robert,  was  a 

HeateDant  on  board  the  '^Northamberland"  when  she 

took  out  Napoleon  to  St.  Helena.    He  resijoied  his  com- 

mianoti  on  his  father'*  diBmi8^al;  but  returned  to  the 

^Dgltah  fervice  on  his  rcbtoration.    He  died  at  Hone: 

Kong  m  1S54.     . 


to  a  haggis  is  curious  to  one  who  has  often  seen 
this  dish  placed  on  an  Ayrshire  £BU*mer*8  table 
before  a  lot  of  hungry  ploughmen.  The  descrip- 
tion of  it  by  Bums  is  perfect  even  to  the  pin, 

1  suspect  that  the  Aberdoniak's  new  reading 
arises  from  the  peculiar  pronunciation  he  is  accus- 
tomed* to  give  to  this  word.  No  doubt  he  would 
pronounce  pin  »t;«i,  and  peen  may  Aberdeen-awa 
mean  juice.  The  second  verse  of  the  address  in 
which  the  line  occurs  describes  merely  the  oirf- 
ward  appearance  of  the  haggis,  and  the  only  refer- 
ence to  juice  tliere  is — 

"  Willie  thro*  your  pores  the  dews  distil. 

Like  amber  bead." 

One  can  hardly  imagine  such  an  exaggerated 
hj'perbole  as  that  these  dropn  would  help  in  time 
of  need  to  turn  a  mill. 

Jiut  ScoTorniLrs  suggests  that  peen  may  refer 
to  a  *'  pent-up  stream  of  liquor  inside  the  haggis." 
If  such  really  existed,  Bums,  with  his  usual  happy 
accuracy  in  the  use  of  tiiprative  language,  would, 
I  think,  have  let  out  this  pent-up  stream  in  the 
third  verse,  when  "  rustic  labour,**  after  "dightin'* 
his  knife,  trenched  open  the  entrails.  I  suspect 
rustic  labour  would  be  terribly  disgusted  and  dis- 
appointed if  the  result  of  his  cutting  was  to  let  • 
out  a  stream  of  liquor  instead  of  showmg  the 
**Gu8hin;^  entrails  bright,  warm,  reekin',  rich." 

To  paraphrase  slightly  the  concluding  lines  of 
the  poem — 

*'  And  Labour  wants  nae  akinking  ware 

Thatjaups  in  luggiet. 
But  if  ye  wish  his  gjatetu*  prayer, 

Gie  him  a  haggis.** 

It  is  pretty  evident  that  a  pent-up  stream  sud- 
denly let  out  would  "  jaup  "  terribly  on  a  "  lug- 
gie/'  and  that  the  very  last  idea  that  whs  m 
Burns's  mind  was  ti)  8Uggi?8t  that  a  haggis  was  a 
lot  of  **  skinking  ware.**  No :  it  was  good,  genuine, 
solid  haggis.  Besides,  it  is  not  the  fact  that  a 
haggis,  such  as  Bums  descrilx's,  has  any  con- 
cealed store  of  liquor  about  it  at  all,  and  far  less 
such  a  quantitv  as  would  help  to  turn  a  mill  in 
"time  0  need. 

So  ScoTOPHiLUSwill  interpret  Bums*s  idea  cor- 
rectly if  he  reverts  to  the  opinion  he  had  on  first 
reading  the  poem,  and  believes  that  nothing  more 
is  meant  than  the  wooden  pin  that  is  employed  to 
secure  the  mouth  of  the  haggis. 

Robert  Dreni^an. 

Clerical  Knights  (4»'»  S.  viii.  477.)— I  have 
found  another  instance  of  a  clerical  knight  in  the 
person  of  the  Rev.  Sir  Robert  Teat,  D.D.,  who 
received  the  royal  licence  to  wear  his  order,  as 
recorded  in  the  Gentleman's  Magazine  (1804), 
Ixxiv.  p.  973  :— 

"  Whitehall,  Oct.  2, 1804. 
"  Robert  Teat,  D.D.,  Rector  of  Ashley-cum-Solveiky 
and  Vicar  of  Kirtling,  co.  Cambridge,  permitted  to  accept 
and  wear,  in  his  own  countn\  the  ensigns  of  Ihe  Order 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*^  S.  IX.  Jam.  27,  *72i 


of  St.  Htanislaua,  confcrrwl  h|m>h  him  Nov.  21,  170O  (l>y 
hiA  tlMMi  description  of  lJo»K'rt  Tuat,  Kstj.)*  by  Stuiiislaus 
August iLS  late  King  of  Polauil." 

Ill  tlio  trial,  Fob.  20,  ISO.^,  in  tho  Court  of 
Kin;;V  I JtMich,  tli(^  Kiii^'  rri'.^tf-<  AVilliiiin  J  )oarsl(iy  for 
nil  irs-*!Utlt,  it  wiii  obj«*r'ir<i  that  in  iln'  inilit-tmcnt 
tlu)  j)rn::«M-utt)r  w««  r;illt:d  ."r^ii'  Kob-.Ti  Ti-jiI,  KM';rlit, 
wliorojts  it  nppear<;d  he  wh-s  not  ii  kiii^rlit  j)f  this 
cnuintry,  and  that  the  dcfunduiit  wu«  tlieroforo 
onliti<Ml  to  hi.s  ut-^uittal.  Lord  Ellonborou«xh 
ovt'iTulcd  the  objection,  observing — 

*•  That  the  onler  of  kni«;hth(KKl  havin;^  Imtu  o<intirnio«l, 
.by  patent*  from  the  Kinj;  of  En^himl,  no  tlouliL  wiwit- 
«»vtr  eonld  -bo  entertained  respecting  its  validity.  The. 
kin.:^  is  the  fonnluin  of  honour;  and  no  one  ever  doubted 
the  knij^hlhood  of  Sir  Sydney  Smith,  with  m.-my  others, 
•whoso  rank  ha<l  l)een  itonfirmed  by  the  kinr.  Had  it 
been  written  barnm-t,  the  objection  woubl  then  have  been 
latd." 

Key.  Sir  I^ibert  Tent,  1 ).!).,  died  April  20,  IS^u 
(Gent.  Mitij.  1^5:17,  iii.  201),  <J02).  A  further  ac- 
count of  him  is  jriven  in  tho  Ilidoiy  mul  utntifjin- 
'  /fVs  of  Ih'cutford,  Eaiint/f  and  Chmrirk^  by  Thomas 
Frtiilkner  {H\n,  ISlo,  pp.  00-70),  from  "wliicli.  it 
appears  tliat  lni  was  l*rior  or  Prelate  of  tlie  sixtli 
lanjrna^re  of  the  Sovereijrn  Order  of  Si.  Jidni  of 
.l»!rnsiileni  as  w«-ll  jih  Senior  Kni^'ht  (Jraiid  ( -ross 
nf  StaniHlaus  of  l*i)land.  The  t»ixtli,  ur  lOn^^lish 
]jin'rua;re  above-mentioned  of  the  most  ancient  of 
all  the  orders  of  knighthood,  has  been  n^vived  in 
this  country,  and  is  a  coq)oration  with  the  oih(T 
seven   nations  or  l:inguaj;es.      Perhap.^   some   of 


your  correspondents  can  furnish  a  list  of  tbe  cler^ry 
who  hold  this  ordt^r  of  knijrhthood.         Ti.  L.  11. 

"  BuLiJACKOirs  "  (-l^"  S.  viii.  KU/)— I  admit  thnt 
hulhivtmia  is  not  often  met  with  in  botanicjil  (b'- 
scriptions,  althon;jli  it  appears  to  me  to  be  ecjunlly 
;is  expi'essive  and  ([uile  .ms  eii])honic  as  hulhoua.  J 
cannot  see  why  it  .should  not  be  used  its  well  as 
th(i  word  hvihaninifi^  wliich  enters  so  frequently 
in  the  descripticMis*  oi'  hcrhs.  I  would  remark  that 
the  merit  of  coining  a  new  word,  or  the  audjicity 
of  using  an  iinprop-.'r  on«?,  is  miu-h  miti«rat«Mi  by 
thi;  fact  thnt  all  tlie  authorities  1  have  consulted 
on  the  matt«'r,  includiuL'"  the  r<'C«'nt  dictitmarv 
])uhli.slRMl  l)y  Messrs.  Chambers,  give  the  word 
httlhavvoiiH  witli  the  .--.ame  signification  as  I  used 
it  in  **  Findenie  Flowers"  (.!»»•  S.  viii.  2:I0.) 

Ju  return  for  the  above,  would  Mk.  IJuittkn 
give  his  authority  for  "the  fact''  that  the  Nar- 
(•iiiioiH  jKM'tiruH  is  jKff  a  Palestine  plant  Y 

If  mv  memory  s<'rvcs  me,  Tvas,  in  his  Fhwrra 
fnnn  the  Jlohj  Laml,  gives  tlio  Xtfrcisfins  it'nti<un 
as  Ix'ing  a  native  of  that  country. 

Ja^iks  Pkaksox. 

Milnrow. 

*  The  late  Sir  Charles  Young  in  his  copy  »»!'  this  trial 
erar.es   the  word  jtaient^  ami  substitutes  licvurf.  (which 
liceni:e  I  have  quotcil  above).— See  A  Short  StatnitviU  of 
Hlte   lata  Trial  in  the  Court  of  Kimjs  Denchj  the  Kituj 
versus  Deartieif,  8vo,  1809,  p.  0. 


liKLics  OF  ObivEU  Ckokwell  (4*^  8.  vUi.  660.) 
It  may  interest  your  correspondent  Dr.  Rim*  ' 
ji\L'riT  to  inform  him  that  the  identicnl  fiword 
worn  by  Oliver  Cromwell  at  tho  decisivo  battle 
of  Xasoby  Field,  in  the  county  of  North iimpton,  is 
pri'-orved  in  the  library  at  Dinton  ITall,  near 
Aylesbury,  the  seat  and  property  of  my  old  friend 
the  Key.  James  Joseph  Goodall/M. A.  The  sword 
has  a  long  straight  made,  is  encased  in  a  leathern 
sheath,  has  a  basket  hilt,  and  very  much  resembles 
those  worn  at  the  present  day  Tbyofliccrs  in  the 
Highland  regiments.  Like  that  of  Sir  Iludibras, 
a  luuchtjon  might  easily  be  carried  in  the  hilt. 
I  (.^nimwell  is  recorded  to  have  slept  at  Dinton 
i  Hall  on  his  return  from  Naseby  Fight  in  l(>4r>,  and 
to  have  loft  behind  him  this  sword  as  a  property, 
not  to  any  particular  family,  but  to  the  mansion 
of  Dinton  for  ever. 

Cromwell  most  probably  came  to  Dinton,  which..^ 
lies  between  Aylesbury  and  Thame,  in  order  to^cr 
vi:;it  his  friend  Simon  Mayne,  at  that  time  thei^^ 
owner  of  the  Hall,  imd  who  subsequently  si^cd^f 
I  lie,  warrant  for  the  decapitation  of  King  Charles  I.— 
in  the  same  pariah  his  connection  Sir  RichardV^ 
Ingoldsby  also  had  an  estate  called  Waldridge,i«; 
who  hml  nmrrieil  r^lizabi'th,  the  daughter  of  Siir:^ 
Oliver  (^nmiwell  of  llinchinbrooke,  in  tho  county*^ 
of  Huntingdon,  a  cousin  of  the  future  Protector.    - 
Concerning  liichard,  the  second  son  of  tho  aboYe- 
mentioncMl  Sir  Kichard  Ingoldsby,  the  very  in- 
credible story  is  narrated  that  Cromwell  guided 
his  hand,  and  f(n'ced  him  to  sign  the  death-war- 
rant of  the   lui fortunate ,  King,  smearing  after- 
wards his  fa<!e  with  the  pen.  •  Was  that  occauon 
ii  subject  for  jesting,  or  was  Cromwell  the  man  to 
nmke  a  jt'st  of  itr*  may  well  be  asked.     lngt)ldsby 
afterwards,   sei-ing  c<uning  events  casting  iheir 
shadi»ws  before,  wisely  busied  himself  in  time  in 
furthering  tlie  Itcistoration,  received  a  free  piirdon, 
was  crciuted  a  Kniglit  of  the  Dath  at  the  corona- 
tion of  Charles  II.,  and  died  in  1(585, 

An  anecdote  in  reference  t*)  a  portrait  of  Oliver 
Lord  Pr<)tector  of  England  may  bo  worth  record- 
ing an<l  preserving  in  the  pages  of  "N.  &  (^.,"  as 
inteicsling  to  tliose  who  ludd  in  honour  the 
mem(>ry  of  one  of  England's  greatest  sons.  MatiY 
years  ago,  when  being  examined  for  Deacons 
orders  at  Cambridge,  a  young  man,  a  Pensioner 
of  Sidney  Sussex  College,  told  me  the  following 
story : — When  Dr.  Chafv  was  Master  of  that  Col- 
IcL-^e,  one  morninir  an  an(mvmous  letter  was  re- 
ct'ived  by  him  stating  that,  if  ho  would  cause  the 
dining-room  in  the  Master's  Lodge  to  be  left  un- 
occupied on  a  certain  day  and  hour,  a  fine  portrait 
(^f  C-romwcU  would  be  placed  there.  At  first, 
Dr.  (^hafy  was  inclined  tt^  treat  tho  matteras  a 
jest ;  but  on  P(?cond  thoughts,  acted  as  his  anony- 
mous corn^spl)n<le■nt  desired,  tmd  to  his  great  sur- 
prise found,  after  the  ])Fescribed  Ume  ox  abaenee 
from  the  room  had  elapsed,  a  fine  poitndt  of  tbe 


4*S.IX.  Jas.3 


,•73.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


81 


Protector  depodted;  which  U  still  there,  a  con- 
gpicuous  oraameot  of  the  roinn.  Cromwell,  iw  is 
well  known,  received  n  portion  of  hla  educntion 
within  the  wslln  of  Siiiney  Stiwiex  Collejre,  mid  i-i 
one  of  her  dwtinjrniKhPil  alumni.  "  I  tell  thu  Inli; 
as  told  to  me,"  without  in  any  way  Touchinft  for 
its  truth  or  accuracy.  The  nnrmtor  has  liin;^-  HiTire 
passed  away,  dyinir  tho  donth  uS  Iho  hem  ami 
ths  iMldier  at  Uio  Itulief  of  Lucknnw,  in  tho  Indian 
Mutiny.  John  I'lCKt'OKD,  M.A. 

Uan^'te  Stcecl.  I'icki^Dg. 

Cleopath.i  Ann  Octavi.i  (1"  H.  viii.  4.V2.)— 1« 
it  posnble  that  the  dift1o<ruo  nhoiit  which  On- 
r.iviostni  inqnirofi,  and  renpecting  w)iich  an  editJ)- 
rial  note  in  pvun,  ia  the  following  ? — 
*•      (M. ....  You  havo  been  hi*  ruin. 
Whn  maile  him  chup  at  Ronip.  lint  l.:tpnpiitni  ? 
Wbo  made  him  KonKd  abriKul.  but  Clropstra  ? 
At  Actlam,  wholiMrayeilhim?   CIpopHtrn. 
M'hn  made  hi*  cbililrcn  iiriihuiH,  and  poor  nic 
Awretebnlwiiliiw?  \VhT  Cl«i>pitr». 

Ctfo.  Yetibo  whDjovCThimfKMlisClmiiafr.i, 
If  you  havo  enlTcred.  I  hav«  BiilTtirwl  mure 
Tou  hear  the  apiM^uiua  title  of  n  wirn 
To  |ril(l  jonr  cniLW  and  draw  tho  iiitvini;  worlil 
Til  fnvoiir  it ;  the  world  contemnn  poor  me. 
For  I  have  Inst  mv  honour.  Inst  my  fame. 
And  Main'd  tho  ffloTyormj  royal  hiiUM!, 
And  all  to  bear  tho  branded  nemo  of  mistroar." 
These  lines  are  f^rcn  an  a  heitdin;^  to  iinc  of 
the  aections  (chap.  ixi.  sec  7)  of  a  school  edition 
of   Piimnch'B   GnldtmUh't  Hittonf   of  Jtomr,   hy 
W.  C.  Taylor,  M.A,,  T.Cl).,  published  in  1832 
(perhaps  alao  in  other  editions.) 

The  TcmaThahlc  part  of  tho  matter  ii>,  that  the 
lines  are,  in  thin  place,  aMijmnd  to  Ih-ydvn ;  hut 
afti*r  a  snmowhal  hurried  aeareh  throu|fli  Hir  W. 
Scotl'a  editinn,  I  have  been  unable  to  find  thi.i,  or 
indeed  any,  prnwaRe  in  Dryden'a  worjia  relating  tn 
(^lenpa&k  or  her  hiatoiy. 

Can  it  be  that  the  "  diali^itc  "  wan  an  invon- 
(inn  for  the  occasion,  like  tho  "Old  I'lay" bend- 
ing in  tho  Wnverley  novels,  and  as  I  stiapect  to 
b""  tho  caae  with  otip  or  two  other  scrapH  in  the 
aiune  Tolurae  cipned  "Anon."!'  If  so,  tho  only 
question  ia,  who  waa  the  author — Dr.  llnnock,  nr 
the  »nb-editor,  Mr.  Tnylnr  ? 

It  is  to  ho  obaen'ed  in  tho  nbove  passage  that 
DctaTia  ia  made  to  complain  that  (!leopatm  hfw 
made  her  (the  speaker)  n  widow.  Bot  accordia;; 
to  the  received  history  (fabnlona  as  it  may  be  in 
manj  particulars),  there  was  very  little  probable 
oppitftoni^,  after  the  death  of  Antony,  for  any 
■aeeting  between  Cleopatra  nnd  Octavia.  It  may 
perhapa  be  aaid  in  answer  (luppoainfr  the  paswa^ie 
to  be  nally  part  of  the  drama),  that  to  the  njay- 
wright  all  stuatione  are  posHihle.  But  judfrinFr 
fmm  probahilities,  it  seems  unlikely  that  a  master 
like  Ayden  would  so  tai  depart  fnitii-traditioual 
imdoriug  as  to  pat  the  expreseion  "  wretched 
widow "  into  the  mouth  of  Ootavia,  or  to  make  , 


the  superb  soyereipi  nf  E^ypt  I'fo  the  )nn;>niage 
of  humiliatiun  mid  aflf-ahnwinont.  J.  H.  I). 

\\\\-  liiivc  ■iin'e  <Ii*ii>v«re.l  Ihnt  the  Unps  ciii"i.-l  l.v 
J.  11.  I>.  ,iri.  I..  I..:  foond  In  l>rv<!i!n\  All  far  Lvrr.  ..r  rtV 
IfnrW  u-fll  tail,  (■'wiiibi  tliuclOH  of  tho'tliiril  iPt.J 

Lathes  ns  IIoRarnACK  {4'"  S.  viii.  S,  poMitn, 
4(W.)— In  Ciniden's /(cmnww,  edit  1074,  p.So-'i: 

"Andrjucen  Ann*.  Mite  (••  King  liii-hanl  the  Saoma, 
vlio  Un^t  lanirht  l'>ili>li  woimii  lu  ride  on  «irl»4iuldla^ 
when  ai  htfrolidiire  tbi?  rid  ni-lridu,  hruuKht  in  hi-,'h  lieid 
ntlirc  iiiheil  wllh  biirn^  and  limi;  trained  Kownii   fiir 


South  lb>rHleil. 

DEK8IDR  (4'"  S.  1 

Smith,  AhiTiloi'n,  piilili 

tiimlii  nf  Dceiiilc,   liy  Janiert   ISl'ni 


I).  0.  E. 


ii.  -■ii>".)-In  IJWI  Mr.  U-wis 
Lbli«h.id  a  (lHld>'  lo  the  Jil.jh- 
W11.  Tho  real 
itbor  was  Dr.  .Iiuiopb  Iiob>TlMiii,  whu  in  his 
nnrlv  dny^  amused  hiinaetf  with  ivriiin;;  tho  little 
booli  (the  prenter  part  in  the  school niaj<ti-r's  house 
Btn.tllnti'r)fr<iratLeiiir..riiiiition,midintheqnftint 
mannur,  of  Hrown,  then  driver  of  a  car  on  DeeMde, 
iiud  nftiTwardii  keeper  of  tho  GrByfriar;«'  church- 
yard, I'Miuburgh.  The  (fmth'  hus  (Tone  tbr(iu;;h 
iiiany  uditions,  the  new  niatter,  reiidomd  noeeiisuiry 
liy  thu  jjrcat  chnnfrva  in  tmviilliii}.'  <iuriiifr  the  last 
forty  y«im,»eftrcelyharmoniiiin),' with  the  plenj^ant 
humour  of  thu  original  writer.     See  Mr.  Nmith's 

tircfacu  to  the  edition  of  18UH,  and  more  particu- 
»r1y  the  inteiesUnjr  sketch  of  Kobertson's  life  by 
his  old  and  intimate  friend  Dr.  fleoriie  Grub,  in 
liis  Spaldinfr  Cluh  IVfaeo  to  the  late  anti- 
quarv'a  ('/illMi-ni'  far  a  Jli-tiiry  nf  the.  iSAire^  of 
AlH-ntmt  mul  Jloajf;  &c.,  IWBI."  I  never  heard  of 
any  fluiih  earlier  tlian  the  above,  aiich  as  .Iatcrk 
m>-iitions,a]idb«<lievo,tliat  in  the  last  («ntiiry, and 
during  the  lirst  qnnrd'r  of  the  present,  l>eesidu 
was  an  undiscovurud  re>,'i»n  to  liumHta. 

NoKVAi  Cliwe. 
Alx'rilwn, 

"  MionT  HAKKR  Rir.nT  "  ("4'*  8.  viii.  fi27.)  — 
This  proverbial  sentitii<>nt  ninr  b>!  found  both  in 
(iri'ch  nnd  Koman  writers,  hut  more  fri'ijuenlly,  I 
iwlieve,  in  the  latti-r.  Indued  I  have  not  olwcrved 
it  anywhere  In  Groelt  i>oeta,  nnd  should  bi  ohlifred 
to  your  learned  correspondents  if  tboy  will  point 
out  H  few  such  pfl.H9ftfre»  that  mav  have  been  noted 
bv  thiim.  The  earliest  traco  of  tbo  idea  which  I 
have  found  ia  in  Thucydidea  {iv.  86)  r  — 

'AiraT;j  -yhp  tlnrfnril  tilaxw  ToU  It  /r  otwfiari  irAfd- 
iriKT^iraill  pill  Iuitiati7-  rh  lAr  -yip  Itrxyat  BufBiArti, 
V  ft  Tn'xn  '3i*K«',  iwipxFrai,  rh  ti  -yitiuiir  tSUaa  /«- 
SoiiAg. 

"  For  it  ii  more  diiRraceful   for  men  in  hl[;li  offiee  to    ^ 
by  uperloDS  fraud  ttian  liy    ■ 
TiKht  lu  tha  one  caic,  while  w 
in  lap  ottinr  man  throws  over  hln  proccodin{;&  tin  <^nd(  * 
or  donpiciblc  cunnhig." 

fa  Boman  writeiB  it  often  occur*;  fiw»m'E\»sita*, 


lee.    Mi^lit 


82 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


li^  &  IX.  Jaw.  «7,  *7f. 


bom  about  b.c.  254,  we  have  (Tntctd,  iv.  3,  80) 
the  following  expression :  — 

"  Plus  potest,  qui  plus  valet ;" 
and  still  more  clearly  in  Lucan  (i.  175) :  — 

«  Mensuraque  juris 
Viserat;" 

and  in  Seneca  {Her.  Fur.  291) :  — 

<*  Jus  est  in  armis,  opixrimit  leges  timor." 
Si)ine  of  your  readers  wOl  recollect  the  appropri- 
ation of  the  idea  by  Schiller  in  his  Wallenstein^s 
Camp  J  vi.  144 :  — 

**  En  ist  hier  wie  in  den  alten  Zeiten 
Wo  die  Klinge  uwh  ulles  that  bodeuten." 

C.  T.  Ramage. 

**  Qui  jacet  in  terrA  non  habet  xtsde  cadat  ''  i 
( 1'^  S.  xii.  204.) — Inquiry  has  already  been  made  , 
respecting  the  origin  of  this  prov6rbial  expression,  ' 
but  I  do  not  think  that  a  satisftwjtory  answer  has  : 
yet  appeared.     It  has  been  traced  to  Alanus  de 
In^ulis  (1G54).     This,  however,  is  not  sufHcient ; 
lor  the  question  arises,  where  did  he  find  it?     I 
luive  copies  of  the  works  of  many  of  these  col- 
lectors of  proverbs,  but  thev  all  fail  in  giving  pre- 
cistj  references  to  the  original  author,  if  they  knew 
il.  so  that  it  is  often  impossible  to  decide  whether 
the  proverb  be  of  their  own  coining  or  a  lAiiin 
tran&ilation  of  some  proverb  floating  in  the  mouths 
of  the  people.     As  an  example  of  what  I  mean, 
I  may  quote  the  following  proverb,  well  known  to 
niuny  of  your  readers :  — 

**  Gntta  cavat  lapidcm.  non  vi,  sed  sape  cadendo." 

I  have  often  been  asked  if  this  be  an  hexameter 
fr«)ni  some  ancient  classic ;  and  it  is  only  lately 
that  I  discovered  that  it  was  a  line  formed  by 
Schonheim  {Proverhia  ilhistrata  vt  amilivata  in 
ustim  JucaUfdisy  &c.  Leipsic,  1728.)  IJe  tells  us 
.»<!  himself,  and  that  it  was  a  translation  of  a  pro- 
verb triven  bv  Galen,  which  after  some  trouble  1 
foimd  to  be  — 

iTfTpriv  KoiAaiVei  pavls  o8oto$  ti/ScAex**'?/* 

Tills  will  be  foimd  tom.  viii.  p.  27,  in  the  edition 
ol  (Jalen  by  I).  Carolus  Gottlob  Kiihn,  Prof.  Un. 
I.i'ips.  1821.     It  is  translated  by  Kiihn  thus :  — 
"  (Tutta  cavat  lapidem  sajpe  cadentis  aqu«." 

I  ask,  therefore,  whether  the  proverb  "  Qui  jacet," 
•S:c.,  is  a  line  formed  bv  Alanus  de  Insulis,  and  if 
do,  where  did  he  find  the  original  P 

C.  T.  IvAMAOE. 

Ancient  Enigma  (4***  S.  vii.  513;  viii.  50, 1)2, 

105.)  —  This  enigma — the  solution  of  which  is 

given  by  the  proposer  as  "  Lot's  wife  " — seems  to 

be  simply  another  form  of  an  epitaph  to  Niobcy  by 

Ausomus  {Epitaph,  29) :  — 

**  Habet  sepulcruin  non  id  intus  mortuum, 
Haliet  nee  ipse  mortuus  bustum  super : 
Sibi  sed  est  ipse  hie  scpulcrum  et  mortuus.*' 

The  following  yensiou  (sometimes  attributed  to 


Agathias)  appears  among  the'ETi7pd(^«|urTw'A8i!mni 
(N0.G13)  in  Brunch's  and  Jacobs's  cdUections:  — 

'O  TVfjiBos  ovTOS  (yHop  obK  ^x^i  v4kw' 
6  vexphs  oitros  iicrhs  ovk  ^x*'  rJupw' 
oAA'  abrhs  avrov  ViKp6s  iari  koX  rA^s, 

J.  B.  Shaw. 

Mangham  (4»»»  S.  viii.  323,  487.)— Mb.  Chab- 
NOCK  answers  my  query  at  p.  323  by  an  aasertion 
for  which  no  authority  is  cited.  The  late  Rev.  W. 
Carr,  B.D.,  a  most  learned  man  and  acute  anti- 
quary, had  a  very  diflert'nt  derivative  for  the  above 
name,  to  the  f/uess  of  Mr.  Chabnock,  for  really 
it  is  nothing  more.  Until  a  more  satisfactory  reply, 
and  one  more  to  the  point,  is  given  to  my  note,  I 
shall  consider  that  Mr.  Carres  story  probably  mav 
have  been  founded  on  fact.  I  am  acquainted  with 
Manninyhamj  and  never  heard  it  contracted  tg 
'<  Mangham.**  Stephen  Jacksoh. 

"  Long  Pkeston  Peggy"  (4"*  S.  viii.  600.) — 
With  those  who  have  studied  ballad  literatore 
there  can  be  only  one  opinion  as  to  Mr.  ILirland*» 
supplemental  verses.     Mr.  Peter  Whittle,  F.SJL, 
was  famous  for  cobblering  and  tinkering  old  bal-*^ 
lads  and  MSS.,  and  if  his  talent  had  been  eqi 
to  his  industry,  he  might  have  ranked  with  Sur 
tees  himself.    lie  printed  an  edition  of  the  Christ 
mas  play  of  ''  St.  George  and  the  Dragon," 
also  produced  a  broadside  sheet  of  "  The  ^i 
Conscience"— both  of  them  "makea-up** 
beginning  to  end.    I  think  that  the  verse  ''  For 
in  brave  deeds  of  arms,'*  &c.  may  be  genuine.    I 
has  a  better  ring  than  the  coinage  of  the  late 
Peter  Whittle.     I  would  insert  it  as  it  is  f^^mwc^ 
by  Mk.  T.  T.  AVilkinson.    The  tune,  which  L^ 
well  known,  requires  eight  lines,  if  the  verBe_i  ^^ 
arranged  in  the  short  method  given  bv  Mb. 
Kut   1  should  prefer  U)  print  in  four  long  lini 
as  tli«;  verses  are  given  in  my  book,  Ballads^ 
(if  thr  Vvamnirij.    Mr.  Whittle  has  been  rttthe 
careless  about  his  metre.     His  second  verae  is 
c()nt<tructed  that  no  tiddler  could  manage  it  with- 
out a  change  of  tunc. 

I  am  obliged  to  Mr.  W^ilkinson  for  his  attem 
to  recover  the  missing  verses,  but  am  com  pell* 
to  join  issue  with  him  in  rejecting  as  spurious  t 
doggerel  of  the  late  Preston  F.S.A. 

Jaxbb  Hbitbt  Dixov. 

Gay  =  WANTON  (4'*'  S.  viiL  648.)^The  tam. 
gay  is  appropriated  by  ladies  of  a  certain 


whose  appearance  in  j^lice  courts  is  not  an  unfre- 


quent  occurrence.  \Vhen  questioned  by  the 
I  gistrate  as  to  their  occupation,  the  answer  ia 
*^  gav.'*  But  this  may  be  conudered  as  oonfiBed 
to  the  '^  superior  "  class — the  frequenters  of  Cn- 
morne  and  the  Argyll  Booms.  A  woman  xi  » 
lower  grade  more  modestly  calls  henalf  *  ODte^ 
tunate  — a  term  invented,  it  u  said,  by  a  IbnM^ 
Bow  Street  magistrate.  ALL 


4^S.TJL  J  AX.  27, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


83 


James  Reddie  ani^ohn  Rbddie  (4^^  S.  Tiii. 
648.) — Of  James  Keddie  (the  father),  who  died 
April  6,  1862,  a  very  full  memoir  isgiven  in  The 
Law  Revi&w  (1862),  xvii.  63,  69.  b£  is  noticed 
in  Lord  Brougham* s  Lifty  i.  16,  240-243  j  Memoirs 
of  Francis  Homer ,  i.  21, 222-225 ;  lAfe  of  Francis 
Jeffrey,  i.  138,  139 ;  Steven's  Hist,  of  ifigh  School 
of  Edinburgh  (12mo',  1849),  Appendix,  n.  218. 

John  Reddie  (the  son)  was  Chief  Judge  of  the 
Small  Debts  Court  at  Calcutta,  and  died  Nov.  28, 
1861.  (Gent  Mag.  (1862),  xxxvii.  208;  The  Law 
i?«^w(1852),xv.444;  xvii.  68-60;  Hid,  of  Specu- 
lative Soc.  of  Edinburgh^  p.  307.  L.  L.  II. 

Scales  and  Weights  (4«»  S.  viii.  372,  462.W 

I  have  a  somewhat  similar  box  to  these,  wiu  a 

date  upon  one  of  the  weights.    They  are  seven  in 

number :  First,  otie  with  21«.  and  6.9.  (as  I  read 

it)  stamped  on  both  sides.    This,  I  believe,  was 

the  weight  of  the  standard  guinea  up  to  a  certain 

period.     Secondly,  one  with  6.8   "  Westwood  " 

and  an  anchor  stamped  on  the  one  side,  and  the 

words    "  coined    since    1771 "   upon    the   other. 

Thirdly,  one  with  10».  ^,  and  2.10J  (as  I  read  it) 

Dn  each  side.    The  other  three  are  very  small,  of 

lifierent  sizes,  without  letters  or  figures,  but  with 

i  different  [number  of  stars  punched  upon  each, 

md  I  presume  are  make-wei^ts  to  show  the  de- 

iciency  in  any  light  coin  weighed.    These  scales 

md  weights  were  (as  I  have  been  informed  by  an 

ged  relative,  who  once  used  them)   simply  to 

est  the  old  guineas  and  half-guineas  they  had 

ny  doubts  about.  C.  Chattock. 

Haye  House,  Castle  Bromwich. 

Origin  of  "Liverpooi/*  (4^  S.  viii.  passim,) 
Lt  p.  536  of  the  last  volume  of  "  N.  &  Q/'  your 
orrespondent  derives  the  name  of  Liverpool  from 
kie  pool  of  the  liver,  a  sort  of  heron  or  crane  once 
r^^non  there.  The  liver  is  the  plant  which,  if  not 
n>  still,  used  to  be  preserved  and  eaten.  On  the  | 
1^  Liverpool  halfpence  is  the  bird,  a  crane  or 
|«it>n,  witn  a  sprig  of  the  plant  in  its  bill.  Motto, 
'  X)eus  nobis  haec  otia  fecit.''  I  cannot  say  that  I 
hink  the  plant  good  to  the  palate.  W.  (1.) 

^Watch  Papers  (4«»  S.  viii.  451,  630.)  — 
'Villiam  Teanby,  .schoolmaster  and  tax-collector 
^^  Winterton  in'  Lincolnshire,  used  to  write 
*^nuscript  watch-papers  with  a  crowquill.  One 
J^  least  of  these  is  in  existence.  It  contains  the 
*j<>rd'8  Prayer,  written  in  a  space  the  size  of  a 
pilling,  in  horizontal  lines,  and  round  it,  in  a  spiral 
jj^e  beginning  outside,  the  Apostles'  Creefl ;  round 
^•^  again  in  a  circle — "  William  Teanby  whim — 
^Jitten  by  him  in  the  87th  year  of  his  age.  1K)2." 
^ Among  the  unpublished  engravings  of  the  late 
IjUliom  Fowler  of  Winterton  is  a  miniature 
^onette  of  George  III.  enclosed  in  a  wreath  of 
^Iiyq  braoches,  roses,  and  palm  branches,  outside 
Jjjich,  ia  a  circle,  are  the  words  ^*  May  he  live 
'^'^^Qu  than  I  have  time  to'  tell    his  years,  ever 


beloved  and  loving  may  his  rule  be,  and  when 
old  Time  shall  lead  him  to  his  end.  Goodness  and 
he  fill  up  one  monument.'*  And  outside  this,  in 
another  circle,  the  collect  "  0  God,  whose  never- 
failing  providence,"  &c.,  in  allusion  to  the  com- 
mon belief  that  the  king  had  repeated  this  when 
he  escaped  assassination.  These  were  printed 
and  coloured  on  white  satin,  and  often  ^ven  by 
my  grandfather  to  his  friends  to  keep  in  their 
watches.  Queen  Charlotte  and  the  Princesses 
Elizabeth,  Augusta,  and  Mary  were  so  pleased 
with  them  that  they  told  him  they  would  insert 
them  in  their  Prayer  Books,  "  that  they  might 
always  see  them  at  their  devotions."  J.  T.  F. 
Hatfield  Hall,  Durham. 

The  excellent  verses  on  a  watch-case  printed 
in  your  last  volume  (p.  539),  and  beginning  with 
the  words — 

"  Could  but  our  tempers  move  like  this  machine,"  &.c., 

were  writen  by  Mr.  (commonly  called  Dr.)  Byroni, 
and  are  printed  in  p.  .*M1,  vol.  i.  of  his  poems.* 
Though  certainly  no  poet  in  its  higher  sense, 
some  of  his  smaller  pieces  are  very  good. 

W.  (1.) 

The  following  lines  came  under  my  notice  when 
a  schoolboy,  about  1835 ;  and  so  struck  my  fancy 
that,  by  frequently  reading  them,  I  committed 
them  to  memory.  There  were  indeed  in  the 
watch-case  several  papers,  but  I  remember  rmly 
the  contents  of  this  one :  — 

"  Onwartl,  perpetually  moving, 
These  faithful  hands  are  ever  provin;^ 
How  quick  the  hours  steal  by. 

This  momentary  pulse-like  beating 
Is  constantly,  methinkR,  repeating — 
'  Swift,  swift,  the  moments  fly  ! ' 

Ready,  be  ready !  for  perchance  before 
These  hands  have  formed  one  revolution  more. 
Life's  sprini?  is  snapt — vou  die !  " 

A.  E. 
Almondbury. 

This  inscription  is  kept  down  by  a  piece  of 
crimson  satin,  in  the  old  shagreen  case  of  a  family 
watch.  The  verses  are  from  Milman\s  Poems; 
but  are  so  appropriate  for  the  purpose  that,  if  not 
curious  from  antiquity,  I  transcribe  them :  — 

*'  It  matters  little  at  what  hour  o'  the  day 
The  righteous  fall  asleep ;  death  cannot  come 
To  him  untimely  who  is  fit  to  die. 
The  less  of  this  cold  world,  the  more  of  heav*n  ; 
The  briefer  life,  the  earlier  immortality,** 

Thus. 

The  Waistcoat  Pocket  a  Snuff-box  (4'*»  S. 
viii.  370,  461,  567.) — The  late  Joshua  Brookes, 
F.R.S.,  the  kinjj  of  dissectors  in  days,  or  rather 
nights,  when  subjects  were  snatched,  and  therefore 

*  Manchester,  2  voU.  12mo,  1773.  (See  some  notices 
of  his  life  in  Drake's  Essayt,  Ui.  215.) 


84 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i'k  8.  IX.  Jav.  t7, 'TIS. 


always  stale,  copiously  uped  his  loft-lmnd  waist- 
coat pockot  (linud  ^^itll  liia(1u*r)  as  a  Hnuir-]>ox. 

John  Pike. 

Skvex  Dials  (4:^  S.  viii.  454,  r^U. )—Oay,  in 

his  Triuia ;  or,  the  AH  of  Walking  tJie  Streets  of 

£ofidon,  book   ii.  (1st  edit.,  n.  d.,  p.  2*)),   thus 

alludes  to  this  well-kiunvn  locality : — 

"  Where  I'am'd  Saint  Gtirs's  ancient  Limits  spread, 
An  inruil'd  Column  rears  itH  lofly  Iloud  ; 
Here  to  scv'n  Streets  sev'n  Diahi  count  the  Day, 
And  from  each  other  catch  the  circlin;^  U.iy." 

The  coluiuD  juid  diiJs  were  removed  in  June, 
1773,  and  remained  in  the  hands  of  a  stone- 
mason for  many  yuars.  My  jrreat-jrrandfatlier, 
who  was  a  clockmaker  in  (ireat  8t.  Andrew's 
Str(*et  in  the  "  Dials,"  traded  larjrely  with  Hol- 
land, nnd  made  what  were  then  called  *"'J\vidvi'- 


tuned  Duk'hnii'U  "  —  viz.  docks  which  played 
twelve  tunes,  with  movinjj^  iij^ures  vjiriously  oc- 
cupied, havinjr  scenery  painted  behind  tlieni.  One 
of  tlieso  clocks  had  a  reprqwntatiou  of  Neale's 
column  with  its  sun-diids.  I  have  seen  it,  but 
unfortunately  do  not  possess  a  specimen. 

In  1&22  tlie  column  was  purchased  by  tJio  local 
authorities  of  Weybridjre  in  Surr«\v,  and,  after 
having  been  surmpunted  with  a  duciil  coronet, 
was  set  up  on  Weybridge  (ireen  as  a  memorial  to 
the  Duchess  of  York,  who  died  at  Oatlands  in 
1H20.  There,  I  behevt;,  it  still  remains.  The 
Dial,  when  I  saw  it  (souu^  ten  vears  sinci),  formed 
a  stt^pping-stone  at  the  adjoining  Ship  Inn. 

KdWAKI)  F.  JiTMlJAULT. 

[Soc  Miirra^'^s  Handl>ook  of  Surrey,  where  it  is  statod 
that,  for  som(j  unknown  ])ur|>i)i<o,  tlio  column  was  re- 
moval from  {\\y.  "Scv<'n  Dials"  to  Saycs  (.'oiirt,  a  house 
not  far  distant  fnun  Wcybrid^o,  where  it  lay  nej^lectcd 
for  some  years,  till  made  to  serve  the  present  purpose. 
The  slonc  helonj^inj^  to  it,  that  jjavo  clircetions  as  to  the 
localities  of  the  "Seven  Dials,"  may  Htill  be*scou  on  the 
green,  close  to  iho  public-houHi>. — Kd.] 

Odd  CirAN(}i:s  oi'  ^Meaning  (4'''  S.  viii.  025.) — 
As  a  pendant  to  the  two  quotations  La  uhj  add 
the  following: — Spending  this  Christmas  in  ^'our 
village,"!  was  tola  that  tlie  vicar's  daughter,  who 
was  very  proud  of  her  Dible-class,  inciuired  of  (me 
of  her  pupils  in  a  smockfroek  how  ()uccn  Sheba 
came  to  Solomon  j'  He  replied,  "  By  tlu;  railway, 
Miss."  ( hi  asking  for  an  explanation  she  reciuved 
answer,  **  Because,  Miss,  the  Dibh;  says  sh»;  canu5 
to  Jerusah.'m  with  a  very  great  train.' 

Clakuy. 


OLi)DAGs(4^»'S.viii.]CU,L>:^4,L>88,.*5sl,.l  ir,,r,51.) 
If  the  peg  upon  which  so  many  versions  of  this  \  j^j*  J^^!^  .^' 
jeu  itesprit  have  been  hung  is  not  ([uile  worn  out, 
may  I  be  allowed  to  luuig  yet  one  more  from  a 
memory  which,  althouofh  pi^rhaps  older  than  tlint 
of  most  of  your  conlribulors,  is  not  visl  entir»dy 
exhausted.  I  woiihl  premite  hy  siii  expression  nf 
belief  that  the  originjd  underwent  many  altera- 
tions before  the  real  and  final  tt^xt  was  st^ttled.     I 


also  believo  that  tho  following  la  the  matured 
form  in  which  it  was  recorded : — 

**  Mr.  Leach  made  a  speech 

Angry,  neat,  and  wrong ;  * 
Mr.  Uart,  on  the  other  part. 

Was  learned,  dull,  and  long ; 
Mr.  Trower  8i)oko  for  an  hour, 

And  then  Mat  down  quite  hot ;  f 
Mr.  Bell  %  snoko  very  well, 

Dut  nobody  know  about  what : 
Mr.  Parker  made  the  case  darker, 

Which  was  dark  enough  without ; 
Mr.  Cooke  cited  a  book, 

And  tho  Chancellor  said  *  I  doubt.'  *' 

OCTOOEVABIAH. 

Lady  Orizeli:  Baillk  (4'*'  S.  viii.  451.) — la 

the  vear  1822  there  wiis  issued — 

"  Memoirs  of  the  Lives  and  Characters  of  the  Righl 
Ilonourahh'  <ieorge  Itaillie  of  JerviswotNl,  and  of  Lad^^ 
(irisele  Ihiillie.     Wy  their  Daughter,  Laily   Murray  c 
StaiihojM'.'' 

It  was  edited,  with  a  preface  and  an  nppendi 
of  documents,  by  Thomas  Thomson,  advocate, 
was  printtnl  for  presents,  but  ropubliahed  for 
in  1824.  T.  G.  8^ 

Edinburgh. 

"  Light  Christmas"  (4«»»  8.  ix.  13.)— In  Bolamrm: 
llandhooh  of  Proverbs  (London,  1800,  p.  4)  thcL-ss* 
is  **  A  light  Christmas,  a  heavy  flhenf." 

J.  Mahukl. 

Newcastle-on-Tvno. 

MoLESwoiiTii  Medal  (4*  8.  ix.  14.)— The  UK 
cident  commemorated  by  this  medal  occoned  » 
the  battle  of  llimiilies.  Slay  23, 1700,  and  la 
rated  at  p.  11  o  of  Coxe's  Memoirs  of  the  Ihtke  • 
Marlhuroiu/h,  1847.  J.  W.  "" 

Mils.  Stephens's  MEDicniKa  (4^  S.  ix.  16.)^^ 
C.  A.  W.  will  lind  some  account  of  Mra.  St^ 
phens  and  her  medicines  in  the  late  Dr.  Paiii 
PJuinnavoloyia  (0th  eiL  1843)  at  pp.  90  and  346.  -^ 

Mrs.  .ToiUina  Stephens  was  granted  SOOOiL^ ' 
l*arlianumt  "  for  her  discovery  oi  certain  mediant 
for  the  cure  of  the  stone,"  as  notified  in  the 
don  Gazetlv  for  June  1739. 

Her    ''once  celebrated    nostrum  conaisted 
lime,  obtained  by  the  calcination  of  the  sheUa 
eggs  and  snails,  and  made  into  pills  with  aoft] 
A  di^coction  was  also  administered  conaiatinff 
chamomile,  fennel,  parsley,  and  burdock,  together 
with  a  porti«)n  of  Aiicant  soap." 

Dr.  Paris  (p.  00)   gives  the  following  as 
instance  of  the  eases  in  which  ellecta  from  nai 
causes  have  been  erroneously  attributed  to 


-.-* 


.,eie 


in- 
lat 


fce- 


^ 


of 
of 


"Upon  Mrs.  StcphcnR  offering  her  remady  for  th 
stone  to  Parliament,  a  committee  of  professloDaf  men  ' 


*  These  1  inert  are  peri'ectlj'  photographic ;  they  < 
exactly  I\Ir.  Leaetrs  character  as  a  pleader. 

t  Mr.  Trower  wan  stout,  and  pcn«|>Ired  when  hespokt. 

j:  No  re|K>rt  of  a  chanccrv  suit  of  the  period  Inqiualhii^^ 
woidd  he  complete  unlcM  Mr.  Beira  name  appeuvd  fat  ^' 


.    ^ 


I'k&IZ.  Jam.S7,'T2.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


minalcd  to  nscpTtoin  iKdlimo}';  a  patient  with  atiina 
4  wl-'Tlcil,  anil  he  t-iok  tlio  rvmfuly;  liiinufTcrini^wcro 
m  rclioTol,  and,  \tpan  cxiuninin^  tlio  bladder  in  tlic 
inl  wajr,  no  Blone  ruuld  be  Tflt:  it  woa,  thcreToro. 
mil  Ifaat  tlie  patient  liail  born  cnrKi,  and  that  tho 
"     '    '  '  c  afterwanhi  thi.-. 


n  iifiiii; 


.p.-».il,  «  lar„ 

a  i>ait  uf  llio  blurlder,  nm 

T.  D.  n. 

.  13.)  — ThU  1 


Cboitiient  (4' 
acnrcely  be  of  Keltic  origin.     According  to 
{Ilitt.  Lane.)  it  wtans  "thu  bent 
Ohow  or  Chew  "i  but  tbo  first  pnrt  uf  thu 
iniiy  refer  to  tho  chough.     "Ileal,  n  conise  Itiiid  of 
irnuat^win<;onhill,vtpnund"  (Li)irhtf»ot) ;  "thu 
open  field,  tlio  ploin*"  l^S.  Ikiuglnn)  ;  "ISiulz,  iwu, 
ia  A  lUfh,  JtmirH»,tcirprn"  (Jnniieeon). 

R  3.  Cn.tKXOCK. 
Graj'ii  Inn. 

Copi  or  AH  E.^CDHuuNicATiOK  (4'"  S.  Ttli. 
300.)— It  will  be  iottresting  to  Tewars  to  knuw 
that  tliia  docmuent  appeared  in  k  newspaper  as 
'well  BS  in  the  puiah  rpgiatur  of  Hampruuton. 
yiy  cop7  ffivea  the  date  thu  exconinnimcation  won 
isBued — Tii.  " The  10th  day  of  Aui/uil  in  the  jear 
ofouT  Lord  Christ  1758."  J.  Jbkeiiiaii. 

TiPTEREKS  (4"  S.  ii.  15.)— Tlie  letters  c  and  », 
A  and  (,  and  sonietimcti  oven  d  nud  b  bciii(;  int>>r- 
chuigeable,  it  ta  poerible  that  the  word  tijitnvr 
might  corrupt  from  tho  Gaelic  fiidhiiear,  one  in  a 
mask,  a  tpiiavt.  li.  3.  Ciiar<idck. 

CRT's  Inn. 

'"TnE  Widow  Greqobt"  (4'"  S.  Tiii.  -Wi.)— 
Thia  imitation  o!  ono  of  Biiranyor'n  nongn  was 
written  many  years  ago  ;  so  long,  ind«i.'J,  tliat  I 
cannot  call  to  mind  where  it  appeared.  I  hnvc 
mitde  a  revise  which  is  more  liteml,  and  eonso- 
Tbe  following  lai: 
,  and  a  list  of  urratn 
that  are  in  tho  printed  veredon.  In  tho  iirrt  verso 
read — 

"The  vidow  Orqfor)',  famed  la  rhj-inc," 
Sacond  Tcne,  read — 

"  Shv  tpaka  of  her  hiuband  tonilerly. 
And  tears  (ttll  big  a»  the  dtiips  of  diMr." 
Third  Teno,   read  "  eiceeding   smart."    Tho 
mt>tre  requires  this  substitutian.. 
Fourth  verse,  for  "  wnmuit "  road  "  mandato.'' 
FitUi  verse,  read — 

"  Wo  settled  the  time  for  oui  wedilini;  day, 

The  price  of  the  Inn.  and  its  iitock  in  traih> ; 

Wa  pUnn'il  a  nice  tove-tiip  far  awav. 

Anil  all  our  ■diemes  for  the  futuTu  I'uid." 

Sixth  vetw.    Theni  should  ho  n  Acuiicolun  artor 

the  word  "monlh";   and   nonu  aflur  tho  word 

"  call  "— a  rauinin  oidy,      Jasirh  IIkhut  Dixon. 

NoTKUiin'  Flowriu  (4'»  8.  viii.  540.)— Tho 
manh  marigold,  Cnfiha  palmArvi,  is  probably  the  \ 


tirat-nnmi^d  flower.  Li/rhuiilm  is  the  corroct  Eng- 
lish name  for  thu  phlox,  strange  as  thi'  luwc-rtjon 
sounds,  and  was  in  couroim  narluncn  as  siich  per- 
haps thirty  years  ago.  I'erunps  tlin  name  ciuuo 
from  America  with  the  plant.  As  to  the  field 
bdlruAh  nnd  thu  nKizuruoD  that  a  child  was  lifted 
up  to  un  a  gato,  1  reuomiiiend  a  direct  application 
to  the  author.  V.  P, 

UoR^KiMHiBB  11AM1I1I.K  (4"'  S.  viij.  415,  480.) 
The  word  rtmimilk  is  only  used  in  distiicta  where 
Anglo'^;Hxon  lingers,  henca  a  strong  inference  that 
it  ia  ilcnvud  from  Auglo-Siixon.  If  tho  dfrira- 
tion  were  raw  milk,  tUi'  word  would  Ihi  UBud  and 
known  in  other  counties.  Huii;  inaliTiiiti  is  a 
moilrm  expresraon,  and  it  is  in  the  Iii^'liiwt  degrt-o 
imprdliabli;  that  the  archaic  word  ci>ntaitm  the 
mmiem  ideo. 

niuc-iiHinl  is  riinply  bluo-wwiivt    Tho  epithet 

is  also  applied  to  a  person  out  of  linmnur — "  nnt 

i'thevein."  C.  G.  J.  IIkmk. 

Mfuix)TiiiAS  Valuation    Roll  (4**  S.   liii. 

480.)— There  was  issued  in  1814  — 

"  The  Vulnscion  Book,  or  Roll  of  the  Conntv  »{  .M  Li- 
hitbiiin  for  tlie  vBiir  17:!fi.  compared  with  thr'liulls  fur 
171':;  aiid  nan,  tOKOlhur  with  the  Ittutlfinl  Valuntion  fur 
thu  .1-enr  181-1.  Drawi)  n|>  by  William  Madatlanr,  W.K. 
I  .a^o  fnlio. — '  Hal  printed  fer  sale.'  " 
The  Ucdl  for  17:»U  I  have  never  seen. 

T.  O.  8. 

RiliiiburRh. 

"A  Kehonstrinck  ADnRmsRD  to  IIr.irt 
Urouoiiak,  rvOnk  optub  Wohkino  C'r.KHav" 

(4"'  S.  viii.  52;(),  was  by  Archdeacon  (itftiirwnrds 
liishop)   I)loiiitii-ld.     Hfa  his  Memtiir,  I'nd  edit 

i8ai,p.«i'.  J.  F.  a. 

Elwe8  TriK  .MiSRR  ('l'"  lS.  viii.  C4*t.)— Your 
CDrrespondent  lUunmc  SIobphyx  meiition»  that 
"the  fatiier  of  Elwus  the  misor  waa  Ibibert  Meg- 
piott,"  nnd  that  the  former  wusat  one  lime  mem Iht 
fur  Abingdon,  and  ri^sided  at  Marcham.  It  in 
quite  true  that  he  did  the'lntter,  and  that  the 
DiilKcId  family,  through  a  niorrin^u  with  a  Miw 
Elwes,  tho  daughter  of  the  miser's  nldi'st  aon, 
inherited  this  pliice  from  the  lilwea  or  Megtc"tt 
family ;  but  of  the  former  it  is  not  true-.  He  (thu 
miivr)  was  never  member  for  Abingdon  that  I  am 
Hwnre  of.  Ho  was  member  for  the  connW  of 
H-'rkshire  for  about  thirteen  years,  fri>m  1774  to 
1787.  Ilis  grandfather,  Sir  George  Megimt,  wa« 
member  for  Soulhwark  actjording  to  Ed.  Topham, 
rj*q,  (Life  of  the  Itilc  Juha  l^wr'.  Em/.,  jfc,  hv 
I'ldword  'fopham,  llsq.,  (ith  edit.  I71H).) 

DnBr.Kr  Cart-Elwes,  F.S.A. 

Soutli  Betatcd. 

Ai'KcniLB,  EssK-t  ?  (4"'  S.  vUi.  C411.)— 1  think,  ^ 
if  WALTBEOflooksat  Momnt'8.fiW.r{ii.  84)  and  V 
ihigdalu's  Iliiiimiiffi-  (i.  184),  ho  will  lliid  tlw  ■ 
place  mentioned.    I  ctunu  ttcrou  IVaia  u&\\Wi  \a.  v 
h-ttei  of  Queen  MtWRRtft  ol  A.njou,  twvA  tdVfcT- 


86 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«»»  S.  IX.  Jah.  27,  •7». 


wards  had  a  note  from  the  liev.  James  Hutchin- 
son of  Pleshv,  from  which  I  enclose  an  extract: — 

"  Apechild  Park  is  now,  doubtless,  Absol  Park.  You 
will  find  it  in  the  Ordnance  Map.  It  lies  on  the  right- 
hand  side  of  the  road  from  Chelmsford  to  Dunmow,  about 
three  or  four  miles  from  the  latter  place.  The  park  is 
fcooe— the  farm  (I  think)  belongs  to  Guy^s  ITospital. 
The  present  house  is  modem.  The  ancient  mansion  was 
surrounded  by  a  moat,  which  sLill  exists." 

Cecil  Monro. 

Hadley,  N. 

Weirlfjgii,  Kknt?  (4t»'  S.  viii.  541).)— To  this 
query  I  suspect  the  only  answer  that  can  he  j^iven 
is,  tliat  it  IS  the  homo  of  the  well-known  artist 
Harrison  William  Weir,  who  has  called  the  land 
after  his  own  name.  C.  11.  W. 

Gradual  Diminutioxof  PRovixcrAL  Dialects 
(4***  S.  viii.  41/>,  488.) — Education  is  makinj^  tor- 
rihle  havoc  with  our  dialects;  hut  what  strikes 
me  as  a  noteworthy  symptom  of  the  projjross  of 
the  age  is  the  way  the  country-people  eaimf  the 
burlesquing  of  their  own  dialect,  instead  of  being 
affronted  at  it.  In  Lanciushire  wliat  are  chilled 
'*  penny  readings  "  are  a  very  popular  entortain- 
ment;  though  there  is  too  much  music;  introduced 
to  make  "  readings "  quite  a  descriptive  name. 
The  jHtpuhtr  pieces,  instead  of  being  those  of  a 
better  and  higher  class  of  literature,  such  as  tlie 
clergy  read,  are  comic  stories  told  in  the  broadest 
Lancashire;  .and  the  man  who  can  do  this  the 
best,  and  rrtise  most  laughter,  is  generally  the 
pet  reader  of  the  ev<»ning.  V.  P. 

"  Parent  of  Sweetest  Sotniis,"  etc.  (4**'  S. 
ix.  .38.) — The  correct  reading  of  the  line  inquired 
for  is — 

"  Parent  of  SAveete-Jt  sounds,  yil  mute  for  o.wv." 

It  is  the  last  line  of  Macaulay's  celebrated  enl;r"ia, 
which  is  as  follows : — 

"Cut  off  my  head,  and  siiij^ular  F  aiii. 
Cut  off  my  tail,  and  plural  I  appear ; 
Cut  oflf  my  head  and  tail,  and,  Avondrous  fact. 
Although  my  middle's  left,  there's  nothinjj^  t hon* ! 

*'  What  is  ray  head  cut  off?     A  sounding  wa  ; 
What  is  my  tail  cut  otf  ?     A  rushing  river  ; 
And  in  their  mingling  depths  I  fearless  pla>% 
Parent  of  sweetest  sounds,  yet  mute  for  ever." 

F.  C.  II. 

Changeable  Silk  (4''*  S.  ix.  :J7)  can  be  nothing 
else  than  what  now  goes  by  the  name  of  "  shot 
silk,"  which  consist-^  of  two  colours  woven  toge- 
ther, and  shows  one  or  other  of  these  ('olours 
according  as  the  light  falls  on  the  material. 

NOELL   J^ADECLTFFE. 

[A  correspondent  Hugjjests  that  W.  A.  S.  R.  should  refer 
to  Ilalliweli's  Archaic  Dht.,  2  vols.  Lond.  1«G8.] 

Colonel  (4*»>  S.  viii.  4:54,  510.)— W^dg^vood 
appears  to  be  right  in  this,  as  he  so  often  is. 
i.oromil  is  first  captain.  Our  pres<»nt  pronuncia- 
tion, kitr-nel^  could  hardly  be  derived  from  citiouvL 
Cutntdf  on  the  contrary,  yields  it  ea<*ily ;  and  as 


in  English  we  generally  take  the  less  open  sornids, 
the  o  would  soon  be  converted  into  u.  What 
Brant<*)mo  says  of  colonels  being  crowned  by  the 
king,  is  probably  a  fancy  created  for  accommoda^ 
tion's  sake.  If  any  such  thing  existed,  it  would 
be  more  likely  that  the  chief  captain  would  have 
a  crown  embroidered  upon  his  accoutrements  for 
the  sake  of  distinction.  It  would  be  interesting 
to  know  how  the  Italian  coUmndio  came  about. 
It  looks  to  me  as  if  it  must  be  a  word  improperly 
adopted  by  the  Italians  from  the  Spaniaros.  For 
to  call  the  head  of  the  column  the  column,  or 
voUmiieUo  "little  rolunm,"  is  like  calling  thi» 
capital  the  pillar  or  pilaster.  A  caiH»uU  is  bend 
of  his  troop,  whether  in  column  or  as  a  battalion 
in  fighting  line.  C.  A.  W. 

3Mayfair,  W. 

Dkkek  (4»h  S.  viii.  328,  424,  r)40.)— The  pecu- 
liar numeration  quoted  by  Mr.  Blenkinsopp,  a.< 
used  by  shepherds  on  the  Stanhope  moors,  is 
Wehih,  slightly  corrupted.  U.  O — N. 

Respecting  the  curious  numeration  in  use  among 
the  Westmorland  shepherds,  mentioned  by  Mr. 
Rlenkinsopi',  may  it  not  be  a  lingering  trace  of 
the  old  Cymric  occupation  of  the  countsry,  which 
once  formed  part  of  the  kingdom  of  the  Strath- 
clyde  Britons  f  This  view  would  seem  to  be  sup- 
ported by  the  great  resemblance  between  certain 
of  these  numerals  and  the  Welsh.  For  instance: 
van  =  W.  un  =  1 ;  fip  =  W.  pump  =  6 ;  dick  = 
W.  deg  =-10;  yan-a-dick  =  W .  un-ar-deg  =  one 
up(m  ten  =  11 ;  bumford  =  W.  bumtheg=  16; 
jijrfrot  =  W.  ugain  =  20.  Ctxro. 

Hirniin^ham. 

.1.  IIoLwoRTHY  (4^»'  S.  viii.  417,  4«0  )— There 
wa**  an  inaccuracy  or  two  in  the  note  at  p.  480,, 
whifrh  it  will  be  well  to  correct.     J.  Ilolwortfaj      ^ 
married  Anne  Wright,  daughter  of  Dr.  Richarr^^'Z^ 
Wright,  nnd  Huce  to  Wright  of  Derby.   For  sotn* 
timi^   they  resided   at  Cireen  Ilill,   Derby,   Mi*^ 
Ilolworthy's  sister  Hannah  Wright  residing  wif^ 
them.  In  1823-4  he  purchased  the  Brookfielaesta^* 
near  llathersage,  Derbyshire,  and  afterwards  pu" 
chased  other  adjoininj?  properties.    The  hall  ^*' 
built  by  Mr.  Ilolworthy  in  182G.    Mr.  IIolwort^T: 
was  an  'artist  of  considerable  merit,  a  great  ^^ 
student,  and  was  intimately  associated  with  *^' 
artists  and  connoisseurs  of  his  day ;  and  1  beli^' 
was  a  member  of  the  Old  Water-colour  Soci^' 
.1.  W.    ^[.  Turner,  who  was  en  intim.%te 
with  Mr.  ilolworthy,  on  presenting  him  witi* 
drawing,  remarked,  '*  And  here's  another  for  y^ 
wift' ;  for   I  suppose  you  must  each  have  oU-^ 
Thf'se  drawings  were  sold  by  auction,  March  \ 
18()8  —  one,  a  coast  scene,  sunrise,   with  ua^' 
graph  letter,  for  340/. ;    the  other,  a  mountain^^ 
scene,  vritli  sheep  and  goats,  for  2Q0L ;  both  m^' 
suring  thiiteen  inches  by  nine. 

Mr.  Ilolworthy  died  in  London,  June  11 


4»  B.  II.  3xa.  >7, 72.) 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


and  Wis  interred  at  tbu  KerMl  flreen  Cemcterj, 

June  1841.  Mra.  HoJworthT,  who  was  alao  an 
artist  of  some  murit.  died  Novtmber  28,  IfWa,  and 
waa  buried  in  St.  AlbniundB,  Derby. 

W.  niiMRosE,Ji;s. 

ScoTTisn  ItKiorM  (4"' S.  viii.  4.V(,  .".5.)  — I 
foil  much  oblip'd  to  vour  currespondL-nt  I'JiPK- 
DAKB  for  his  cifar  iinS  Mitisfuctory  rtjily  tn  my 

!'[uery  on  the  above,  llavinjr  no  additimiiil  iii- 
onnatioit  on  th«  subject  I  t-aiinot  aetlle  the  difli- 
uulty  whtthtr  tlie  charier  uf  UltO  wiis  feudalised 
nr  not,  nnd  ibereforo  nf.'rcc  witli  Esi-khakf.  in  , 
thinking  it  inoro  pMbabln  thHt  William  K—  of 
iri47  waa  tbu  son  rather  tlian  the  iireHt-trrandHon 
.if  .lames  of  1490.  <-  S.  K. 

St.  Fcter'i  Squiirc,  Iluminmmilli.  \V. 
^VaBBs  Fagot:  Devonsuirh  Ciiitisnus  Kvn 
Clutom  (4"-  8.  viii.  547.)  —  lieinj;  iiitiiiialely  ai- 

Juainted  with  Weat  Souifwetaliire  and  parta  it( 
hivunsliire,  I  vtjulure  to  rorn'Ot  u  porlion  uf  Mi;. 
Kellett-Tvi-lt's  ulateLunnt  with  nvpect  to 
nahen  fair^ts.  The  strnuda  are  not  formed  of 
"atraw,  liay,  '<t  wim<i  fiich  niatcrial."  but  ol'iitoiit 
witllie^,  wliich  after  a  ljm«  •*  pvu  '  with  »  loud 
nsport.  Tbeao  bunda  nro  i'IucmI  aa  cIomi  toinither 
aa  posnble,  and  the  iiisiom,  m  far  na  I  have 
noticed  it,  is  for  the  farmer  to  (pvu  bis  labiiurew 
H  ijiiart  of  tider  na  each  strand  bursts  from  the 
action  of  tbo  tiro.  Should,  however,  two  or  more 
explode  NmullaneouBly,  only  a  wnglo  quart  is 
(riven.  To  counteract  this  unliappy  result  con- 
aiderablo  infranuity  is  exercised  by  tbo  labourers 
in  Uiiin;;  williies  ci  dillbreut  (le<{reea  of  sw.ii  tuicl 
stren^'th.  Tlie  iiMhi;ii  fa^it  ia  far  aiipeiiorlo  tilt- 
yule  log,  and  thouch  to  we  it  in  perfeetion  an 
open  heartli  is  rnquisite,  still  itn  i-i/u  can  wtuly  be 
accomtniidateil  to  the  modern  jrratu.  Ash  ia  the 
'inly  wiwd  that  bums  well  when  itrm-u,  and  the 
frueber  it  ja  cut  the  mora  aprii-'btly  the  llanii'.  I 
do  not  think  that  any  one  who  haa  <iin:e  sei'ii  the 
jnviua  lliime  of  the  nahen  faggot  will  be  likely  tn 
allow  this  old  custom  to  din  out.  tboiifrh  the  enler 
iwrt  uf  it  uiHv,  with  advanta^ie,  bu  omilie<l. 

'    J.  Oiui!i.K»  L'o\. 

I1.ix>:1w.hkI.  Iklfvt. 

Was  Itii.  Joiissoy  a  Smki'-takkk  ■"  (4"" -S. 
»iii.  -ifU,  :Kte<,  4Ji!.  -'.;J4. )— IW-kforil  wna  .mly  ten 
v^nra  old  when  his  father  .lie.i  (June  Jl,  17701. 
la  tbc  storv  of  the  uraluilom  insult  oli;> red  to  bis 
father  mad' him^'-/f  likelv  tn  be  true,  and  did  Dr. 
Johnaon,  in  Tu.rnfioii  «->  f-fniiiHi/,  I77."i,  oidy  n- 
l-eat  in  print  an  old  sarcasm  when  he  wrote,  "If 
eUvery  be  thus  fatally  ciintaijiou!',  how  is  it  that 
we  hear  iba  loudent  yelps  for  libertT  among  the 
flmers  of  negroes  ?  "  Thi*  ia  quoted  by  Boswell 
in  the  same  paragraph  with  the  question,  "Where 
dWBeckford  nndlVecothick  lc«ni  English?"  Or 
did  Bpchford  junior  brood  over  this  till  h'e  iina- 
>:ii6d  tlie  nt-rv  of  the  insult  ?  W.  G. 


S0TE8  ON  B00K8.  ETC. 


yorUiHUibnam  Frriiuiia  lanapticaJty  armnllrd.  md> 
Catlatima  ej-hAlting  all  the  Rtadingi  vf  nil  ll-  MSS. 
Kdiltd  far  tht  Sundici  n/  lAr  UHirtrMila  Prut  hf 
tlu  Rev.  Walter  W,  Skeat,  M.A,  Aisutant  Tiit.n-  buiI 
late  Follow  of  Chrut  College,  and  Author  of  a  .Muaw- 
Gulhie  Uloawn-.  (Kivingtane.) 
Students  of  ATiRli>-Saxcin  will  rememljer  that  niiina 
-"-  c  the  Syniiics  of  the  (.iiinliriil((B   UnivKrsily 

....  the  lcaiii[„  

o(  ancient  EnKlmiJ  as  planned  by  Mr.  Kemblv,  ami 
entrusted  the  Drat  portion  ufit,  tlH-Umnel  orSLUallliew, 
to  that  actwmpliiihed  nuhular.  JUr.  Kenible's  laboun 
were  iatomipleiL  liy  varioai  eauaen,  anil  at  IiIk  death  in 
l!<:ti  thn  eoiiipletioii  of  the  work  waa  undertaken  tij-  Ur. 
llanlwlck.  The  wurk  tefuie  us  forois  ibe  i«eond  poition 
orUie  same  iiuinctant  undertaking  :  and  as  the  drcum- 
slaucei  attenitincthepuUieatiun  of  SI.  Matthew's  GohhI 
4id  not  afTord  ■  favourable  ojiportunity  for  diseusdng 
the  pccuUariliei  of  the  MS8.,  or  even  uf  cxplaiDinR  the 
KenenI  design  by  which  tlidr  reaitings  are  synoptically 
cxiiildtu),  the  Riiilorof  tha  present  portion  suppliea  the 
nvcessarv  iufurmatioD ;  and  his  pretace,  hii  deaeriptlon. 
uTtbo  tiSH.,  ufllte  printed  editions,  and  his  explanation 
of  the  manner  in  vrhieh  the  -  ■     - 

liiire  beeu  arranKed,  prove  tl 

fur  the  work  before  us  the  Syndics  have  shown  exeellenb 
jiulgmeiit.  and  sec'ured  an  edition  of  the  Anglo-Saxon 
tiiisnvls  whieh  will  be  priced  by  scholars  and  a  credit  to 
the  University. 


Pri«i-e  Smhipditthvi,  ami  TiUe-fayei,  lo  CBmplett 


■t  VI^  r. 


Hitarp   of 


,•/  tVnlmifi$i     . 

Slniuiie  Birth;  HrHrlhrr.'  Mnrthrr!;  Tht  dwraritr 
■   •■fa  Tovii  Gallaul!  P,«.r  Hohla't  TtHi:  Char.n:ttr  b/h 

iSevbl.    (Kcevea  i  Turner.) 

ir  readers  nf  the  present  day  are  nut  familiar  with  tha 
oDue  pnpulir  writhies  of  nnr  forebibersk  it  is  not  Ibe 
fnult  of  entelpridng  pulilishers  ready  lu  apply  tlidr 
eapiliil,  and  intelligent  editors  ready  to  devote  tbclr  lime 
aiid  knowledge,  tu  the  vl)'ci:tive  reiiruduutinn  of  such 
works.  Soma  time  i^inee  we  vaLleil  atlentiun  to  tbo 
.S^iond  rati,  of  The  ml  /i.«^(  r.J/«h«'-«  .Miirrllmg, 
whi.'h  cmlaiiuil  a  icprinl  uf  Th<^  Trimming  nf  7%amh 

ri'nders  the  FiAh  and  Sixth  Pails,  Ihe  appi'aranve  of 
which  may  he  taken  an  cvidrnc^o  that  Sir.  Hindley'a 
I'lim  of  n  Si>rii'S  of  Ri'prinlsof  (hp  mure  popular  Tracta 
i.f  tbc  Sixteinth  and  S.Tcnl»iith  l>nturic»  has  met  with 
tlie  apjiroval  uf  a  large  number  of  subscrilwrs.  We  iloabt 
llic  pruprietv  nf  rvprintitig  Mr.  Adcv  Itrpton's  pretended 
hlock-Hter' yiiitnry  of  Prina  BmliaanAM ;  but  the 
■ipeniiu:  numlier  oTthc  new  volume  makes  ample  amends. 
'nc  Lift  ••/  Imbs  Meg  «f  Wntmint^tr  ia  a  picture  of  tbc 
FcKial  eonilitinn  of  the  metropolis,  cnrionsly  illaatratjve 
ofpopnlai  manners  nnd  customs  at  the  close  uf  clie  fix- 
leenlii  century,  well  worth  the  half-crown  which  is  tha 
price  of  the  whole:  such  I'.irt  coniaiuinf;,  in  nddition,  a 
niriou.*  noli'-e  uf  the  birth  of  two  boys  at  Flymonlh, 
i'dned  tuerlhiT  much  after  the  faoliion  of  the  liiiamMa 
Twin*,  anil  three  other  tracls. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


r4»i«  8.  IX.  Jax.  27,  7». 


Itulejt  Sch(}ituticuM.     Som  and  Dfiuyhfer*.     A  Guitle  to 
Parr.utx  in  the  Choice  of  Ktluetitional  JnstUutionif,  Sec, 
/;// 1:.  Kemp  IMiilp.    (Virtue  Sc  Co.) 
TliP  a])ove  liili*  Hiifllciciitly  imlicatcs  the  purpow*  of  tlie 
compiler,  nrnl  the  iiifctrmutioii  fxivvn  Rficms  most  full  on 
nil  ()ointM.    IiKiMmurrh  as  Kton — hy-thc-by  Dr.  (loodftud 
U /'r«rfi«f,  not  iVi/«/;W— and  llarmw,  umons:.st  othors 
1i>o  niiinorous  to  name,  linvn  Kiipplietl  the  desired   in- 
formation, wo  can  not  douhl  Imt  tliat  similar  iiist.itutifm.s 
now  foiispiciioiis  by  their  ubsi-nce,  will  put  in  an  npiN.'ur- 
aiice  in  any  future  ediliotis  of  the  lutU'X  Srhuiuntivux. 

The  I/ixtitri/  ami  AiiUffiiitten  of  the  (■nlhyintv  Church  of 
ToiHU'ortft.    Ity  C  V.  W.  Palmer.    (Siin'pkiu,  Marshall, 

tt  Co.) 

This  nHult  of  twenty  years'  laljour  cMn  lianlly  fail  to 
fommeml  itr<oIf  to  thos(>  to  whom  it  is  more  partieularly 
a<l<lri-s>e«l— th(j  inhabitants  of  'I'am worth— as  in  it  are 
tr.'ieed  the  annals  of  their  ehureh  (one  of  the  finest  in  the 
ro\inty  and  ft)rmerly  collegiate)  from  its  earliest  founda- 
tion. A  view  is  ^iven  of  a  sin^^ular  double  ntaireaso  in 
the  soulh-weat  turret  of  the  tower. 

It  may  b''  some  satisfaetion  to  th-'sc  internste<l  in  the 
subjiM-t  to  know  that  a  praiseworthy  ellort  is  now  beiui: 
niaile  to  furnish  St.  Paul's  C/atlndral  with  allar-plate 
worthy  of  the  ehnreh,  and  in  idae«'  of  that  which,  readers 
of  Dean  Milman's  Ainmln  \\\\\  n'mi'mln-r,  was  earrii'tl  o(V 
bv  thieves  in  the  jMvly  part  of  tin*  ]»ri'senl  et-ntury. 
MembtTs  of  th<'  Oalhedral  stall' —  amongst  them  nnr  ei»r 
res^MHidi  111  the  llr.v.  \V.  SrAi:n«»\v  SntrsoN — air  in(lu(htl 
in  th»!  body  of  (contributors  of  the  plale,  whit-h  has  ln'en 
exhibil(.-4l  durin;;  the  ]»ast  Aveek  at  the  «sl.d»li>hi!ii  ut  of 
the  nianufai'turcrs,  Mes-rs.  Lias  iSc  Son,  S.-dislmry  ('ourl, 
FliH't  Street.  The  alms  ili.sh,  2  ft.  '.\  in.  in  diann.-ter, 
prewented  by  Mr.  .l.W.  IbUtirwoith,  l-'.S.A.,  i-*  par- 
ticularly worthy  of  remark,  as  bavin,::  tor  its  centre  sub- 
jci;t  llidaelli-'s-Vartooti,  St.  Paul  pnachin;;  at  Athi-ns, 
.-pb-ndidly  I'l'prtnluc.cil. 

TllK  Uinnimihum  (ittzrUi-  Mates  th.'it  at  the  next  \\\w{- 
\\v^  of  the  Klddtirminster  T<)W!j  <  !ouneil,  a  motim  will  be 
ma»li*  proposing;  that  Mnne  memorial  be  cnttcil  to  the 
memory  of  Uiehard  Itaxtor. 

TiiK  animal  editions  (»f  tlios<»  ns4'ful  publication-:.  Do- 
brett's  l\'trth}v  itihi  linn^mlnqe,  \\{\\V.a  wvW  and  f.ivour- 
ablv  known  i)eliire  (iror-M'  111.  was  kinir,  will  be  i-.- ucd 
in  the  conr.o  tifa  few  »lavs. 


IT.  Wkkd  (Hackney.)— Omt  lte$t  thtmka.  The  itm^koM 
ftctiH  fonettrJed  to  our  citrrtutftondenL 

K.  ir.  (Uuxbonm^h  5Ioy.)— 77ic  French  rnng  *'Mal- 
hrottch  *'  has  lin-n  tittribnted  to  Mtulume  de  Seniffmc.  See 
"  N.  &  (^"  !••  S.  ix.  ui\ ;  :J">  S.  vii.  128. 

H.  K.  J!.  (Loxiih.^'^Iitf  thfi  etmoMS  ptiMished  at  the  cvih- 
meneemeHt  of  the  reifpi  of  James  /.,  1G03,  it  uvis  ordered 
**  thaf  the  'I  en  Ctnnmnndment*  tte  aet  up  on  the  etut  end  of 
creri/  rhureh  and  rhupef."  (janon  Ixxxii. 

V,  it.  (Ashfor.!.) — 7'he.  ifitotation  icill  U  fouml  in  Ten- 
ni/soit.  In  Meiiioiiam,  xxvii. 

('.  \\.'  —  Mr.  /."iiit  Ihijiit,  firmerlti  vonnrt:fvd  with  The 
Moriiin..c  (Miriniiijc  am/  The  (»b>ierver,  died  tit  kin  re- 
»!dctnu\  l;;.  t^'urun  (Wsernt,  Han-rgfofk  Itill^  on.  March 
'1,  IS? I,  af/rtt  iiiiii.ti/-iniht.  Jt'e  had  wttieed  thai  the  fuifiers 
durinif  //»<■  /i./.-j^  wtrk  had  riaiftaindt:d  him  irith  anofhrr  Mr. 
Lewis  Jf.i.nd,  a  eilij  merchant^  who  died  at  80,  llarleg 
Strcetf  on  Ihr  17 th  inst.  aijed  citjhtif-fnur, 

J:>;i;at!tm. — P''S.  ix.  p.  J2,  col.  ii.  line  2'2,far  •'church  " 

read  **  chapel.'' 

Wo  In'^  li'avc  tn  i.taf'j  (liut  wc  lUvlinr  to  return  cummuiiicatiuni 
M-)iic1i.ti)i-uiiy  iva-oiii,  hc  do  ii.it  print;  mid  ti»  thi«  rale  wucau  miike  no 
vxrt'Mtioii. 

All  ritininiinii'atiitii-xiiiiiiM  Ik?  addrc-w^l  to  tliu  Hilitor  at  thv  Ofllce, 
iX  \\ ilVinau.'t  Siiixt,  W.i.'. 

To  all  r<iiiiiiuiiii<-utiiiii->  sli'inj.l  In;  aflixetl  ttiv  name  and  mltla'M  i»t 
tin  M-ii'li  r,  imt  iKr^>.-:iiily  tor  piililii':iti(»ii,  hut  us  u ;;uaraiiCvc  ufizoud 
luitli. 

"  Lik..-  oil  rrarMl  riiu-ii'li-nis.  tin-  |'niii;.s?  U  riiii:irkH>iU'  for  iti»  oimiili- 
rilj."'    rlii-  w;i>  !-:»«il  l»>    ///«  /,/ii/«  ofjln-  liMth<M|  |ij  which  Thf  f:a::nnr, 

mill  uviiiliiiifii  1-1  .%«U,i'jii'ii:ui;:c,  in  li>o'cviTy  di-MTiptioii  uf  pnniertjr 
with  cim-.  >Kciir.t>.  uhd  without  iicikin^  tlioir  naiiiiii  puhlic.  K|iccimeii 
11III.V.  coiituiiini;;  t>ill  diivctioii^,  jnkI  Irit*.  for  two  i«uny  atamni,.^ 
( m.i'v:  :'.2.  UVllii' -toil  >trcvU  Strand.  London. 


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aATBEOAT,  FEBRUART  S,  IB71. 


CONTESTS.— 

NOTES:'— OouroKind;   Gourmet, 

rlopndift":  »r.  HnlumoiiLowe.. 

KuperlMira:  Cbildreu'o  UiunW 


..,„     m  — Fictillou"  KiiiHiH  of 

—  Bnnu^  'PmiWce  H»n'  —  Flmt  NflWBp»ptr 
IT  Elecirio  Takitniph  —  Buustnw  — IionlBwDii'ii 

Inn  kT  ShibinnMTK  ~  Tniinnnii'M  "  Ui-mth  df  Iha 


e  Kole.vi 


Old  a 


ilottHir:  P.  N>tid» 


, ti.  M.A.  -  Udy  iliw 

EdiiTum—  bn^nnran—  iTiePirK  IStuliahirninui  rm  iu 
Pekia  —  Gflvenior:  VIocnir  — UEntdK'UollMe  u  Concn- 
humn  —  Kurnrok  and  laanaj  —  L»  Pontune—  Mam 
Quoutiniu —Old  Hu*  cf  London  —  Harj  uawn  of  Siwtii 
—  Miuther  —  I>r.  tTk.  Hub  —  Numirnnktio  filnndf n — 
l^lni  oil.  -QuotatlaKii  miiittd  —  Kaud^-wond  —  "Tlio 


-Torni. 


-Tbii-Vkt 


nrH«nryIlI.taJahnorMoiimouth-31lu  Wud-Bamuel 
Webbc.  Sen„  BS. 
BBfl.IESi-Bredi-rDde  Fmsilj.  Ml  —  Umbrellu, 97 - T1i> 
Dnctriiie  at  Callioism,  lb.  —  Huritila  in  (iardani,  lis  - 


—  Clunguof  Bsptill 


Blue-Tiiiid  Chme— Tlie  Dukn  a!  V 
ItbiliDpnrLinidon  — BuUr  of  Hmrlnw 


!  ViDdden  Virld  - 


— ■■spw-r 


Kamllr  - 
ItJe  ,i  F 


"  DuDiluiua  "~ 


£atci. 

GOCUMAXD;   COUlillET. 

A  Bhort  time  a^o,  amongst  ft  small  circle  of 
friends,  the  queation  was  propoundmi  sa  to  the 
exact  meaniu);  ol'  the  above  words.  Nine  out  of 
ten  coDsidortd  that,  radically,  they  couvejed  the 
same  idea:  goHrmaiul  mesiUDg  a  glutton,  ii  vora- 
cious eater:  and  goiamict,  an  epicuie  of  mote 
delicate  taete.  On  reference  to  authoritiee,  it  ap' 
peared  that  the  idea  oi  t/ourmund  was  correct,  but 
that  ijaurutet  haa  QothiQg  to  do  n-itb  eating  at  all ; 
being,  according  to  Tarver,  "  a  judjfe,  connoisgeur 
of  wine."  It  w  difficult  to  pet  rid  of  the  idea 
tbat  the  latter  sjllable  of  gourmet  ie  connected 
nith  meta,  a  dish  or  mess. 

Tbe  actual  history  of  these  two  words  is  very 
curious.  They  have  really  no  connection  what- 
ever with  eacii  other,  the  resemblance  in  sound 
being  purely  accidental. 

Gourmand,  ginirmatulize,  are  found  in  }{en  Jon- 
«0Q,  Spenser,  and  other  English  writers  of  tbe  six- 

>nth  centui7,  in  the  sense  of  eating  voraciously. 


came  to  us  &om  the  French,  as  it  can  be  traced  in 
that  language  much  farther  back.  In  a  letter 
dated  1K)3  a.B.,  quoted  by  Ducange,  occurs  the 
following  passage:  "Le  jour  devaut  que  icollui 
preatre  treBpasaaat,  il  avoit  beu  et  gormandi  par 
tout  le  jour.^' 


The  word  is  really  Celtic,  and  is  foimd  in  the 
Baa-Breton  and  Welsh  in  the  form  of  gomumt, 
&om  gomt,  fulness,  cramming. 

The  history  of  gourmet  is  more  aingular.  The 
word  gtima,  in  all  the  Teutonic  tongues,  meant 
originally  "a  man."  In  Jilnslish  thisvery  early 
be<»me  grum  or  groom,  probably  from  being  con~ 
founded  with  the  Cymric  gwr,  having  the  same 
signilication.  It  then  came  to  signify  a  serving- 
man,  especiallv  one  attending  to  horses,  equiva- 
lent to  Ger.  liare»ka!k  (m;in<bal).  In  the  lattuT 
part  of  the  fourteonlh  century,  during  the  wars 
in  France  under  Edward  III.,  tbe  word  became 
current  in  French,  in  the  some  way  tliat  jotheg, 
houliugrin  (bowling-gnten),  and  blnilE-ihtgiie  (buU- 
io^),  liave  been  adiipted  in  more  modern  (imes. 
Ic  IS  found  under  tbe  foruiii  of  gromcl,  grouinet, 
diminutive  groiiidef;  and  is  LatiniKed  iutn  gromee, 
gromw,  yriantUnt.  By  a  very  common  mvtatbens, 
gromiiet  became  goarinrt,  in  the  sauie  way  that 
girtt  and  grin,  gera  tmd  gra»s,  bird  and  br\d,  are 
interchnni;pftble.  In  a  French  letter  of  a.d.  1303, 
Eiven  by  Uueange,  we  read:  "Duquet  Jaque  le 
t'oq  I'c.xpOiMut  estoit  serviteur  et  grutnet."  In  a 
M(i.  poem  of  tbe  Ufteenth  century  we  tind :  — 


Que  il  csrieut  au  quemhi." 
The  last  quotation  indicates  the  special  applica- 
tion which  the  word  assumed  as  a  name  for  the 
drivers  of  wino  carta..  We  read  again:  "  Un 
groiimet  nommtS  Fagot,  qui  condujsoit  iceuli  vins." 
In  140:i  the  word  bad  begun  to  apply  to  a  "  Com- 
missionaire, Fauteur  des  Vins  " :  "  Guiot  dit  Rolot 
hamicheur  eVgoiirmet  de  vins,  dcmoumnt  aBruierea 
en'  Lnonnois."  Thenceforward  it  tooli  tbe  sense 
given  in  Carpentier's  supplement  to  Ducange: 
''Voiturier  ou  garde  des  vins  et  maruhandisoa 
pendant  qu'ils  sont  en  route."  In  modem  French 
It  has  come  to  signify  a  judge — connoisseur  in, 
wine.  It  has  not  yet  found  its  way  into  Eng- 
lish dictionaries;  but  it  is  frequently  employecl, 
and  often  in  a  wrong  sense. 

The  existence  of  two  words  side  by  side,  so 
nearly  allied  in  sound,  and  so  different  in  origin 
and  meaning,  is  a  singular  phenomenon  and  WorUij 
of  "  making  a  note  of."  J.  A.  Picion. 

SsadyknuHv,  Wavertnx. 


Although  such  immense  sums  were  spent  on 
the  later  encyclopiedias  (4>»  S.  viii.  384,  note), 
Chambers's  original  work  seems,  like  many  other 
commencements  of  all  kinds,  to  have  been  largely 
a  labour  of  lovei  Amongst  unpaid  cuutributots 
we  may  probably  reckon  Mr.  i^lomon  Lowe, 
whose  name  is  almoat  forgotten  now  in  our  litersr- 


90 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4th  S.  IX.  Fbb.  8,  Tt. 


ture,  but  who  was  a  tolerably  well  known  writer 
one  hundred  and  fifty  years  aso.  Mr.  Lowe  taught 
and  kept  a  well-known  academy  at  Brook  Green 
near  Hammersmith,  and  some  notice  of  him 
lately  appeared  in  the  Hammersmith  News, 

Shortly  after  Mr.  Lowers  decease,  his' widow 
wrote  in  March  1751-2  to  Dr.  Ward  of  Gresham 
College,  a  friend  of  her  late  husband,  enclosing  a 
copy  of  an  advertisement  which  she  had  addressed 
to  Mr.'  Meres,  one  of  the  newspaper  publishers  of 
the  time  (Brit.  Mus.,  Add.  MS.  6210),  and  com- 
plained that  she  could  not  get  it  fairly  inserted 
owing  to  a  feeling  on  the  part  of  the  publishing 
trade  in  general.  The  advertisement  rah  mostly 
as  follows,  a  few  contractions  and  omissions  being 
made  for  the  purpose  of  a  desirable  brevity :  — 

**  Shortly  will  be  published  by  subscription,  for  the 
benefit  of  those  who  have  Mr.  'Chambers'  Dictionnrv, 
which  waa  done  by  himself,  an  entire  supplement  to  that 
(jitc)  by  the  late  Mr.  Solomon  Lowe;  how  capable  he  was 
of  doinf^  it,  may  be  seen  from  the  underwritten  extracts 
from  Mr,  Chambers*  letters  in  1733 :  — 

'  I  know  of  nobody  who  is  so  well  acquainted  with  the 
flaws  and  defects  of  the  work  as  yourself  (Mr.  I-owe) ; 
you  have  favoured  me  with  many' remarks  of  this  kind 
[Mr.  Chambers  must  have  been'  slightly  ironical  here, 
E.  C.].  I  have  sent  you  the  24  sheets  of  my  Dicti<mary, 
that  were  wrought  on  before  the  last  variiition  of  mea- 
sures took  place.  I  should  not  have  been  forward  for 
Jroducing  the  sheets  before  3'ou,  who  are  too  good  a 
udge  of  their  Defects,  but  as  you  had 'a  desire  to  see 
them  I  have  avercomo  all  the  Heluctance.  To  have  dis- 
charged solid  benefits  by  an  idle  letter  of  complements 
(«iV)--where  had  beea  the  propriety.  ...  I  know  of 
no  person,  among  a  great  number  from  whom  I  have  had 
communications  on  the  same  occastion,  that  has  entered 
80  far  into  the  spirit  of  the  work,  and  appears  so  thorough 
a  master  of  the  design,  as  yourself.  Your  instructions,  I 
speak  without  any  complement  {sic'),  are  all  pertinent 
and  useful,' "  &c. 

Mrs.  Lowe  adds — 

**  that,  when  Mr.  Chambers  was  too  ill  to  carry  his  work 
on  any  farther,  he  sent  for  Mr.  Lowe  and  gave  him  his 
Dictionary  in  order  to  carry  it  on." 

Of  course  Mrs.  Lowe  had  very  naughty  ideas 
.  about  the  publishers,  whose  offer  of  one  hundred 
and  fifty  guineas  for  the  supplement  she  says  that 
she  refused,  and  attempted  a  separate  publication. 
Mr.  Ward  appears  to  have  been  chary  of  advice ; 
but  we  may  judge  from  her  rejoinder  that  he  told 
her  that  publishers  had  interests  which  she  was 
bound  to  consider,  and  they  might  naturally  object 
to  an  advertisement  which  said  so  much,  con- 
fidentially or  perhaps  sarcastically,  about  the 
defects  of  a  publication  in  which  they  were  in- 
terested. 

Although  Mr.  Lowe  would  probably  not  have 
been  reckoned  as  a  "  man  of  the  time,"  and  his 
name  is  not  found  in  Chalmers,  Kose^  Haydn, 
Phillips,  Jones,  and  Allibone. 

Mr.  Lowe  was  asLed  to  help  Dr.  Birch  in  his 
Life  of  Sir  Hicliard  Steele,  He  wrote  a  work  on 
''  SinemonickS;"  which  has  been  reprinted  not  very 


long  ago  with  Grey's  Meniaria  Tedmica,  He  died 
poor,  which  was  possibly  the  puniahment  -  foor 
writing  so  much  and  so  well  gratuitously. 

A  GUEAinBB. 

MILTON'S  USE  OF  THE  SUPERLATIVE : 
CHILDREN'S.  LANGUAGE. 

An  apt  illustration  of  the  well-known  lines  in 
book  iv.  of  Paradise  Lost  — 

**  So  hand  in  hand  they  pass'd,  the  loveliest  pair 
That  ever  since  in  love's  embraces  met ; 
Adam  the  goodliest  man  of  men  since  bom 
His  sons,  the  fairest  of  her  daughters  Eve," — 

was  furnished  me  a  short  time  ago  involuntarily 
by  a  girl  of  thirteen,  who  said  to  her  mother  in 
my  bearing :  "  You're  the  youngest  of  your  sis- 
ters-in-law^ mamma!''  And  it  was  ho  slip  of 
the  tongue;  for,  though  tho  girl  has  more  than 
average  intelligence,  and  has  been  as  well  edu- 
cated as  most  girls  of  her  age,  I  could  not  make 
her  understand  that  what  she  had  said  was  grain- 
matically  wrong,  and  that  she  ought  to  have  said 
"  younger  than,"  instead  of  "  youngest  of."* 

It  would  seem,  therefore,  that  Milton,  in  his  i 
beautiful  irregularity,  unconsciously  adopted  the 
simple  speech  of  childhood.  I  say  unconsdoudv, 
because  there  can  be  little  doubt  that  the  poet  u 
appealed  to,  would  have  charged  .himself  rather 
with  over^refinement^  and  have  allowed  that  the 
elaboration  of  these  lines  had  cost  him  some  tima 
and  thought;  unless  indeed,  which  is. not  impro-  ] 
bable,  he  had  met  with  and  admired  such  a  mo 
of  the  superlative  elsewhere.  I  find  a  similar  ift- 
stancet  quoted  in  Matzner's-Ew^.  Gram,  (iii.389), 
from  Robert  of  Gloucester  (i.  167> — "  Ygeme,Gor- 
loys  wyf,  was  fairest  of  echon  (i.  e;,  each  <m«)5 
though  Miitzner  gives  it  among  a  number  of  qw®" 
tations  which  are  perfectly  regular,  and  does  X^®* 
appear  to  have  remarked  any  irregularity  ab©^* 
it.  In  Shakespeare  again,  we  have  (2  Henry  f^*' 
i.  3),  "  York  is  most  unmeet  of  any  man,**  ^^^^ 
the  superlative  is  really  equally  irregular,  tho**-^ 
it  scarcely  strikes  one  as  being  so. 


*  The  language  of  children  has,  I  think,  had  too  li  ^jj 
attention  paid  to  it.    A  child  be^^ins  life  as  a  savage,  ^^ 
gradually  becomes  civilised.    Its  speech,  in  ita  cm 
and  upward  course,  reflects  thii<  gradual  change,  and 
quently  illustrates  the  idioms  of  other  languages  be 
its  own.     I  have  noticed  that  the  errors  of  syntax, 
which  an  English  child  commits  in  learning  English 
frequently  no  such  errors,  but  the  normal  mode  of 
pression,  in  some  other  language ;  'and,  when  this  is 
much  light  is  thrown  npon  the  syntax,  &c.,  of  this 
language.    A  child  does  not  copy  aJl  its  mistakes; 
makes  up  plenty  for  itself,  and  it  is  to  these  only  (and  I 
one  I  have  given  above  is  an  example)  that  I  wish 
call  attention.    A  collection  of  such  mistakes  wmdd 
very  instructive,  and  might  be  bqgnn  in  **  N.  &  Q.** 

t  Similar,  at  least,  as  far  as  the  superlative  is 


4*S.IX.  Fu.8,'7a.] 


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91 


A  aeucelj  Iwa  eucc^ssful  gacrifice  of  gnunmttr 
to  sound  is  found  in  Bjron's  known  lines  (C.  H^ 
book  iv.) :  — 

□  Veniw,  ontheBriilgeorSiglu; 


F,  Chance. 


KflK, 

Sydeahun  lliU. 


LETTEU  OF  FUF.DERICK  THE  GREAT. 
On  tbe  death,  recrally,  of  a  relative  of  mine  it  a  vtry 
adnoCTil  ige,  I  found  imoiig  her  paperi  a  colleoticm  of 
autograjihi  of  dialinguished  peraons,  nearly  all  of  Ihem 
accompanied  by  some  stnlemciit  Ln  proof  of  their  outlien- 
ticily.  Among  them,  bat  without  any  such  nroof  all  ached, 
it  the  lottei  of  which  I  eur^tase  a  copy,  and  which  pur- 
poru  to  lie  written  hy  the  hand  of  Frederick  the  (Sreal. 
By  the  appearance  of  the  ink  and  paper  it  certoinly  wan 
writtea  at  the  time.  The  hand  U  ■  bold  round  one.  I 
faare  pmen'cd  tl^e  iuaccuracies  of  epelliDg,  &c.  Could 
any  of  your  readu*  give  me  any  information  as  to  the 
drcumttance  to  which  it  ref«ra,  or  any  fac-simite  of 
Frederick's  handwtilin,;  with  which  1  could  compare 


mpngnie  Assiatique  D'Embdeii, 
enven  toud,  doot  vous  voiis  etes  tub  olili);^  de 
Youi  pkiodre.  Je  feroj  examiner  vos  griefs  et  je 
viens  de  donner  mes  ordrea  en  consequence  a  nioa 
fitudent  de  \%  Cbambre  d'Estfriselentz,  et  tous 
posTM  etre  tres  assurez  que    Ton  ne  manquenk 

Kde  TOus  administer  bonne  justice  nutunt  que 
CiK-oostuncca  Je  permettront,  eur  ce  je  prie 
IHea  qu'il  vous  ait  en  sa  sointe  parde. 
"A  Potsdam  le  2(i  Fevrier  1730. 

"  Fbedeeic." 
".\  Mad.  Goodwin  a  BruxcUes." 

IIuDERT  J.  DE  BcRcn. 
!,  Warwick  Terrace.  DuWiu. 


3Ii^  A  Microcosm.  —  This  expression  is  in 
esTOTnaa  u«e,  but  Ibe  idea  involved  in  it  is  little 
utiijetvtood.  In  fact  tbe  phrase  itself  is  varied 
Iroin  Plato's  original.  In  bis  pliilosopbj  all  doitj 
iitoond  or  globular;  tbe  universe,  a^iuiti  tbeliied 
ttars,  and  tbe  planets  are  (lods.  Man  was  made 
bytheDeiniurgua — himself  created  bj  the  supreme 
O'od — as  a  model  for  all  living  creatures,  and  man 
is  a  sort  of  demigod ;  but  the  divine  part  in  mnu 
is  iiis  head,  the  residence  of  reason,  which,  like  the 
^ode,  is  round:  the  other  parts  of  man,  the  bodj 
and  the  member?,  are  mere  accidents  past-crealed 
simplj  for  the  couvenience  of  the  head.  In  tlie 
stisage  and  curious  anatomical  account  which 
PUio  givea  in  the  Timitut  of  the  formation,  uses, 
and  reaaons  of  the  formation  of  these  parts,  he 
expands  bia  notion  fuUj,  and  concludes  with  the 


assertion  that  thus  tbe  human  head,  being  like 
all  the  other  gods  round,  is  in  fact  a  microcosm. 

One  singular  example  of  humour  occun  in  the 
course  of  bia  account.  He  Bays  that  the  Demiur- 
gus  formed  the  nails  not  because  the  man  wanted 
them,  but  because  he  foresaw  that  wild  beads  and 
tpotimi  would.  It  is  manj  jeers  since  I  read  the 
TimteuM,  and  I  have  it  not  by  me  now  to  refer  to ; 
but  this  is  a  correct  statement :  that "  the  head  of 
man,"  and  not  man  himself  in  his  full  form,  "  is  a 
microcosm,"  in  Plato's  phrase. 

There  is  another  phrase  and  idea,  the  "  music 
of  the  spheres,"  ciplnined  in  the  same  treatise. 
If  a  paper  involving  some  arithmetical  and  astro- 
nomical  calculations  comes  within  your  scope  I 
will  send  it.  This  phraae  also  is  very  little  under- 
stood, though  often  in  men's  mouths.* 

IIerhebt  ItANSOLPH, 

Ringmore. 
.  FicTiTiouH  Naurs  of  AumoEa.— In  a  late 
number  of  "  N.  &  Q."  OLrUAK  IIahst  speaks  of 
the  trouble  he  once  had  in  cataloguing  a  book 
under  three  different  names,  which  ultimately' 
turned  out  to  be  but  disguises  of  the  same  book. 

Id  the  same  part  he  also  speaks  of  his  Hani- 
hook  of  Fictitious  Names.  May  Ibe  allowed  to 
point  out  that  future  editions  of  this  most  usefiil 
and  interesting  work  will  be  enriched  'by  the  un- 
pleasant circumstance  above  named  ?  for  we  have 
now  two  or  three  "fictitious  names"  the  more — a 
small  example  of  the  "soul  of  good  in  tbiogs 
evil."  Ravessbourhe. 

BuRNs's  'Prestice  Han'. — 

'■  Auld  Nature  swear*,  the  lovely  dears 
Her  noblest  work  sbe  clasaei,  0  I 


nature  wa*  but  an  apprentice,  but  woman  when  she  was 
a  skilfull  miatresse  of  her  arte." 

Cupid't  fVhirtigig,  1007  (ed.  ICl!,  C.  4  vers.) 

I  knon  nothing  more  of  tlie  history  of  tbia 
saying,  but  from  the  closo  resemblance  between 
tbe.'e  passages  it  would  seem  either  that  Bums 
had  read  the  itTiirligig  or  a  scrap  borrowed  from 
it,  or  that  the  saying  was  or  bad  become  prover- 
bial. B.  NicaoLSON. 

FinsT  Nr.wsrAPEH  Rp.fobt  by  Electric  Tele- 
oB.tPn.— As  a  director  of  tbe  Electric  Telegraph 
Cnmpnny  so  early  as  1847,  tbe  late  !Jr.  George 
Wilson  (of  the  Anti-Corn-Law  I^eapuo)  urj^d 
forward  the  laying  down  a  line  of  electric  wires 
from  Manchijsler  to  Leeds.  At  the  nomination  of 
Mr.  Cobden  for  tbe  West  Riding  in  that  year  the 

i.l65;4"'3.ii.uei;  iii.  la. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«»  S.  IX.  F«B.  8,  -Tl. 


line  had  not  been  completed,  but  Mr.  Wilson  bad 
several  miles  of  wire  carried  on  temporarily  as 
far  as  Wakefield ;  and  from  that  town  the  pro- 
ceedings attendant  on  the  nomination  and  eh^ction 
of  "Mr,  Cohden  were  transmitted  to  Manchester, 
and  appeared  in  a  second  edition  of  a  Manchester 
paper  about  two  o'clock  that  day,  beinj?  the  fir^t 
newspaper  report  by  electric  tolej}raph  on  record. 

PniLTr  S.  King. 

BousTRAPA. — It  is  not  "perhaps  generally  known 
that,  among  the  Parisian  workmen  durinj?  tlio 
period  of  terrorism  wliich  was  initiated  by  the 
coup  d^eUiU  Napoleon  III.  was  familiarly  (lesijr- 
nated  "Boustrapa'' — a  name  made  of  the  initial 
syllables  of  .Sow-lojrne,  >SY;-a-sbourg,  and  7'//-ris, 
the  scenes  of  his  three  chief  exploits  up  to  that 
tim^.  Subsequently  two  of  his  s<)briqnot>«,  a-'  you 
know,  were  **  Badinguet  *'  and  "  1/H»^mme  .de 
Sedan."  PniLir  S.  Kixii. 

Lord  Bacon's  Adaptattox  op  Sttakespeare. 
In  an  article  on  Shakespeare  in  the  (inarterhj 
(No.  2(51)  it  is  pointed  out  that  Bacon,  with  a 

Srofound  contempt  for  poetry,  nevertheless  con- 
escended  to  adopt  Shakespeare's  sentiments. 
One  or  two  examples  are  given.  I  have  met  with 
the  following,  which  wa.s  not,  I  think,  alluded  to 
by  the  reviewer.  In  the  *'  E:«say  on  Travel," 
amongst  the  hints  to  enable  **  a  young  man  to 
put  his  travel  into  a  little  room,''  is  "If^t  him 
sequester  himself  from  the  compnny  of  his  coun- 
trymen." This  roads  like  an  echo  of  llf^salind\j 
words  {^Aa  You  Like  L\  iv.  1) — 

"  Fnrew(?ll,  Tnoiisiour  travollor ;  look,  you  lisp,  and 
wear  stran<re  suits  ;  <iis.ible  nil  the  Ix'nctU'*  of  your  ewn 
countrv,  bo  out  of  love  with  vour  nativitv,"  it<\ 

PKLAGirs. 

Tennyson's  "T)K\Tn  of  the  Old  Year." — 
Collectors  of  Tennysoniana  may,  porliHpQ,  like  to 
make  a  note  of  the  following  paragraph,  tukon 
from  The  IS^icohiy  liutlandj  and  Stamford  Mereunj 
for  January  12 ; — 

"C'AlSTon. — Of  all  times  in  the  rear  that  our  cam- 
panoloj^ians  could  Iiavc  rho.-^en  to  f^o  *  on  strike.*  it  seemed 
moHt  annoying  to  all  lovers  of  old  eust()ms  that  thev 
•should  choose  New  Vear's  eve.  They  mi^ht,  it  isalloweil, 
have  ample  cause  for  dissatisfaction  witli  the  lack  of  con- 
sideration shown  for  their  oomfoit  in  the  helfrx,  and  with  I 
the  decree  of  encourap:ement  driven  them  in  *  boxes,*  but 
they  adopted  a  shabby  method  of  sliowinj:  it.  Such  an 
omission  as  theirs,  it  is  said,  lias  never  occurre<l  Ai'ithin 
living  memory:  certainly  not  since  Tennyson  (*  Our 
poet,'  as  we  (?aistorians  proudly  call  the  r(K*t  J^aureate) 
wafl  a  denizen  of  thw  quaint  old  town,  and  wn»te  his 
poem  on  the  *  r)<?ath  of  the  Old  Year'  (collection  pub- 
lished 1832)  within  hearing  of  the  ('hurcli  bells." 

CuTiriJERT  Bede. 

iNacfKirTiONfl.  —  Having  lately  met  with  the 
followinj^  inscriptions,  I  "made  a  note  of"  them, 
thinking  you  miprht  deem  tlR^m  worthy  of  being 
transcribed  into  the  pages  of  "  N.  &  Q.'*'    I  know 


not  where,  when,  or  by  whom  they  have  been 

severally  written. 

On  a  sun-dial :  — 

"  Once  t\i  a  potent  leaders  voice  it  stay'd ; 
Once  it  went  back  when  a  good  monarch  pray'd ; 
Mortals!  howe'er  ye  j?rieve,  howe'er  deplore, 
The  flying  shadow  shall  return  no  more." 

Tender  an  hour-glass    in  a  grotto    near   the 

water :  — 

"  This  babbling  stream  not  uninstructive  flows. 
Nor  idly  loiters  to  its  destineil  main : 
Each  flower  it  feeds  that  on  its  margin  grows, 
Now  bids  thee  blush,  whose  days  are  spent  in  nia. 

"  Xor  void  of  moral,  thoujjh  unheede<1  j^clides 
Time's  current,  stealing  on  with  silent  haste; 
For  lo!  each  falling  sand  4's  folly  chides. 
Who  letd  one  precious  moment  run  to  waste." 

Found  in  an  old  watch  that  had  been  given  bf 

a  <rentleraan  to  a  young  lady  about  eighty  yean 

since :  — 

"  Deign,  lady  fair,  this  watch  to  wear 
To  mark  how  moments  fly ; 
For  none  a  moment  have  to  spare. 
Who  jn  a  moment  die ! " 

E.  W.  II.  Nash,  RA. 

Florinda  Place,  Dublin. 

^Fary  liAMu. — In  giving  evidence  on  the  qne** 

tion  of  insanity  nt   the  trial  of  the  Bev.  J.  ^ 

Watson-,   as   reported   in    The   Globe  (12  Jan-)* 

Dr.  Maudslay  soid : — 

"  The  case  of  Charles  Lamb's  sister  is  a  wdl-kiw** 
one  ;  it  was  one  (»f  homicidal  tendencv,  and  MLsi  Li**^ 
had  killed  her  fatier."  ....  "  In  Miss  Lamb's  «* 
she  u-ied  to  Avarn  people,  but  not  until  after  the  mui^ 
of  her  father,  which  ttK)k  place  suddeuh*.'* 

As  Dr.  ^Faudslay  calls  this  a  well-known  ip" 
staiiro,  it  may  not  ho  amiss  to  mention  that  M'* 
Fiamb  did  not  murder  her  fatlier,  but  her  moth* 
The  rofcrenco  is  no  doubt  equally  applicable,  b'* 
the  mistalie 'i.-;  worth  correctmg. 

Charles  WtlI^ 


eQurrtrif. 


*'TIIK  FATFI.KU'S  OWN  SON." 

In  ls(>()  .Mr.  Ilalliwell  printed  thirty  copied     ^ 
the  Ikutorn  uf  Jhdl-lwad  CoUeije,  being  a  dr*"^^ 
forrijod  out  of  the  lost  play  of  the  Father**  0^ 
Sim,  from  the  second  part  of  the  Wifs,  or  Sp^^ 
upon  Sportf  f^vo,  1072,  published  by  Kirkman,  al 
which  is  thrt  last  piece  in  the  volume.     lie  h 
also  given   Kirkman *s  preface,  which   is  a  ve; 
curious  and  interesting  production,  for  which 
deserves  the  hearty  thanks  of  all  those  who 
interested  in  the  early  history  of  the  drama.         ^ 

It  so  happens,  however,  that  the  same  dt6^ 
forms  the  last  article  in  the 

"  Wits,  or  Sjtort  upon  Sport,  in  select  pieces  of  Drono^^ 
digested  into  i^trenes  by  way  of  Dialogue.  Togetbtt^ 
with  a  varietv  of  Humors  of'aeveral  Nation^  fitted  fo^ 


X.  Feb.  8,  '72.] 


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are  and  content  of  all  persons,  either  io  Court, 
antrev,  or  Camp.  The  like  never  before  pub- 
Part  i.  London  :  Printed  for  Henrj*  Mar»h,  at 
of  the  Princes  Arms  in  Chancery  I^ne,  1G62." 

book,  of  which  I  am  not  awaro  tliere  was 
>nd  port,  was  printed  bv  Marsh,  who  si^s 
ace — one  altojrether  ditlerent  from  Kirk- 
•oduction—and  adds  a  catalojrue  of  books 
him,  with  the.«e  lines  prefixed — 

)  for  your  ])l»a«<uro  hath  produced  his  storo, 
as  yuu  liki*,  will  furni.«*h  you  with  more." 

ifl  prf  fixed  a  curious  engraving  of  the 
IGG'Jf  which  I  believe  has  subsequently 
engraved,  and  in  which  we  have  Sir  John 

in    the   costume   in   which   he   used  to 

lan  must  therefore  have,  without  acknow- 
t,  reprinted  Marsh's  coHection,  omitting 
,ce  and  lon<r  list  of  books  for  sale,  and  given 
face  whicli  Mr.  Ilalliwell  has  reprinted, 
r  the  engraving  was  prefixed  to  Kirkman's 
the  writer  has  no  means  of  knowing. 
?  year  l(>7o  Kirkman  printed 

^ntt,  or  Sp4trt  vjwn  Sport,  \ye\r\fr  a  curious  Collec- 
veral  Drolls  and  Faroes  proseutiMl  and  hhown  for 
ment  and  drli^lit  of  wi.se  mon  and  the  iiinorant : 
avc  been  .sundry  times  acted  in  puhliquo  and 
n  London  at  Bartholomew,  in  the  (^ountrey  at 
res  ;  in  Halls  and  Tavern.s  on  several  Mounte- 
jffs  at  Chririncr  Oosv,  Lincolns-Inn-Fitlds,  and 
ces,  by  several  .stn)l*'inff  Players,  Fools  and 
nd  the  Mountebanks  Zanies,  with  loud  lanpfhter 
t  applause.  Written  I  know  not  when,  by 
■rsons  I  know  not  who,  but  now  newly  oolle<"ted 
1  friend  to  plea.se  you. — Fr.vncis  Kiukman." 

s  work,  which  is  quite  distinct  from  the 
Q  by  Mar-sh,  is  prefixed  the  prelVmo  by 
I,  reprinted  by  Mr.  Ilalliwell.  The  copy 
e  is  perfect  until  it  reaches  p.  *?2,  but  at 
of  the  paire  from  tlie  catchword  it  appears 

next  droll  is  called  *'  Oenone."  Then 
nother  fragment  commencing  with  **  The 
nc^ited  humours  of  Bottom  the  Weaver." 
nation  begins  nt  page  i*0,  fini.shing  with 
I  ■'  at  page  .'i7,  and  concluding  with  the 
r  Ch(;»tvd,"  which  terminates  at  page  '^O 

word  FiiuA. 

riv  of  your  contributors  inform  mo  if  the 
v.s  are  fra^rments  of  separate  works,  or 
D  tlio  saui'.^  volume 't  >Vere  any  other 
■)f  the  Drolls  printed  than  those  noticed 

J.  M. 


kurs'R  Boletn's  Mother:  F.  Nanciaat. — 
There  is  a  picture  representing  a  woman's  bead 
at  Stanford  Court,  supposed  to  be  the  mother  of 
(^ueen  Anne  Bolejn.  It  was  purchased  more 
than  a  century  past  of  Francis  Nanciaat,  who 
said  it  was  an  original  of  Holbein.  Anne  Boleyn*s 
mother  was  sister  of  the  Duke  of  Norfolk.  A 
note-book  of  my  gr(?at-grandfatlier  states  the  fact. 
The  picture  is  in  good  pre.servation,  with  the  lady 
in  a  dark  dress,  white  plain  cap,  and  ruff  round 
the  neck.  Are  there  anv  known  pictures  of  this 
ladv  whereby  I  miifht  verify  the  likeness?  and  who 
was  Francis  Nanciaat  ? 

ThOM.VS  E.  WlNXI>'6T0y. 
Stanford  Court,  Worcester. 

Cl.ire's  IlEM.viys:  Old  B.vllads. —  Messrs. 
Taylor  &  Son  of  Northampton  have  invited  me 
to  edit  the  poetical  remains  of  John  Clare,  and 
have  supplied  me  for  that  purpose  with  a  mass 
of  documents,  including  seven  or  eight  hundred 
liitlierto  unpublished  poems,  more  than  a  thousand 
letters  addressed  to  Clare  by  his  friends  and  con- 
temporaries, a  diary,  and  several  pocket-books  in 
which  the  poet  jotted  down  passing  fancies,  and 
noted  subjects  which  interested  him.  Among 
these  last-named  memoranda  is  a  small  collection 
of  ballads,  which  Clare  savs  he  wrote  down  on 
hearing  his  father  or  mother  sing  them  on  .the 
long  winter  evenings.  Several  of  these  might 
with  propiiety  bo  included  in  the  *'  Remains," 
and  in  making  the  selection  it  would  assist  me 
to  know  whether  any  had  already  appeared  in 
print  or  not.  Will  some  ample-leisurea  and  cour- 
teous reader  of  *'N.  &  Q.'*  compassionate  a  man  of 
many  engagements,  and  assist  me  in  the  search !" 
The  followinjr  are  the  first  lines  of  the  ballads: — 


•c 


IT)."' — Can  any  correspondent  throw  light 
s  .sentence  in  George  Herbert's  Count n/ 
rhapter  x.,  "  An  old  good  servant  hoards 
'i  T.  W\  Webb. 

the  word  r/«  ban  dropped  out,  that  is,  "  boards 
."  or  it  may  mean  in  the  same  state  a.s  a  child, 
sold  sayinc,  '*Set  htm  a  clear  hoard  in  the 
lat  is,  put  him  in  a  good  position.] 


"Where  have  you  been  to,  John  [or  Lord]  Randall,  my 

pon." 

**  The  week  before*  Easter,  the  days  lonp:  and  clear." 

**A  faithless  ."shepherd  ^ourte<l  me.'* 

"  O  silly  love !  O  canning  love." 

"  On  Martinmafl  Eve  tlie  dogs  did  bark.*' 

•*  Here's  n  sad  jrood  bye  for  thee,  my  love." 

'*  Aly  love  is  tall  and  handjiom'e." 

"  OVar  is  fled  the  winter  wind." 

*•  Dream  not  of  love  to  think  it  like." 

*•  Of  .all  the  swains  that  meet  at  e\'e." 

*•  A  false  knight  wooed  a  maiden  poor." 

**  I'nriddle  this  riddle,  my  own  Jenny  love.'* 

.**'Twns  on  the  banks  of  Ivory,  'neath  the  hawthorn's 

scented  shade." 

J.  L.  CnERRT. 
3,  Grove  Terrace,  Ilavelook  IMace,  Hanlcy. 

V\\\\\  Anthony  Davidson,  M.A.,  a  native  of 
Scotland,  was  about  the  end  of  last  centurj'  curate 
of  Milton  in  Hampshire,  and  master  of  an  acafleray 
at  Lymington.  lie  wrote  some  plays,  which  are 
mentioned  in  the  Bio'jraphia  Dramafiva,  Three 
of  these  were  performed  at  provincial  theatres. 
He  is  also  autnor  o{  Poems  of  Omwh  in  Blank- 
vflrscy  Salisbury  (no  date) ;  and  Sertnofis  in  Blank-" 
verse  J  Komsey  (no  date).     These  two  works  I 


94 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<»  S.  IZ.  Fb.  ^  7L 


hftve  seen;  the  Sennons  were  published  in  or  about 
the  year  1815.  Can  nnv  reader  of  *'  N.  &  Q." 
inform  me  whether  Mr.  Davidson  published  any- 
thing subsequently  to  the  year  1815  or  1817  ? 
What  is  the  date  of  his  death  ?  Were  any  of  his 
dramas  printed  ?  R.  Inglis. 

L.iDY  Alice  Eoerton'. — Is  there  any  portrait 
existing  of  the  Lady  Alice  Egerton  who  acted  the 
part  of  **  The  Lady '^  in  Milton's  Masquv  of  Comtts 
when  it  was  first  produced,  and  is  there  any 
■  engraving  of  the  same  to  be  had  anywhere  ? 

W.  H.  W. 

EyGRiviNGS. — I  have  two  old  engravings  from 
which  the  edges  have  been  so  completely  re- 
moved that  no  part  of  the  lettering  remains.  I 
annex  the  following  description  of  them,  in  the 
hope  that  some  other  collector  who  has  perfect 
copies  may  be  able  to  supply  me  with  the  names 
of  artists  and  engravers,  and  date  of  publication. 
The  titles  I  have  "  from  tradition"  : — 

No.  1. — "Howard  visiting  a  debtor's  i)ri3on."  Plate 
22  in.  >t  IG  in.  A  sick  gentleman,  in  military  undress, 
supported  bv  a  lady,  who  receives  a  wi'll-fdled  pnrse  from 
,  Howard,  'rhree  children  surround  the  group,  one  of 
whom  kisses  Howard's  left  hand.  A  fetter  connects  the 
prisocer's  right  wiist  with  his  left  ankle.  A  turnkey 
stands  in  the  doorwav. 

No.  2.— "Loss  of  the  HaLswell."  Plate  23  in.  x  17  in. 
The  deck,  saloon,  or  round-house  of  a  large  vessel  in  a 
itnking  stale;  the  floor  covered  with  water,  in  which 
some  drowning  persons  are  floating..  In  the  centre  a 
man  (the  captain  ?)  stands  with  several  very  graceful 
-female  figures  clinging  to  him.  The  waves  seem  bursting 
In  from  all  sides. 

Where  could  I  find  an"  account  of  the  loss  of 

the  Halswell  ?  W.  IL  P. 

[No.  2. — The  Halswell  Ea.st  Indiaman,  outward 
bound.  Wiis  wrecked  ofl' Seacombe,  in  the  isle  of  Purbeck, 
on  Jan.  6,  178G,  when  Captain  Pierce,  the  commander, 
porishevl  along  with  manv  others.  (Gent.  Mag,  Jan. 
179G,  p.  76.  and  "  X.  &  Q.''  S^d  S.  iii.  0,  r»4,  «0,  15H.)  It 
was  painted  by  Robert  Sniirke,  engraved  by  Robert  Pttl- 
lard,  and  published  by  R.  Pollard,  engraver,  No.  lo, 
Bayues  Row,  Spa  Fields,  March  J  7,  17JS7.1 

TiiK  First  Engli.^it woman  ever  in  Pekix. — 
Was  ^lie  not  the  worthy  housuketper  of  the 
British  Embassy  there,  in  ]8<il  't  S. 

Governor:  Viceroy. — What  is  the  difierenco 
between  a  viceroy  and  a  governor,  as  applied  to 
Ifer  Majesty's  representative  in  a  British  colony 
cr  other  possession  H  I  am  induced  to  ask 
**  N.  &  C^."  for  this  information  from  frequently 
:i*'?ing  in  colonial  newspapers  the  expi-essions 
'*  the  vicerogal  speech,''  *•  the  viceregal  banquet," 
&c.  Some  fortv  vears  ago  (if  I  recollect  rightlv) 
none  were  called  viceroys  excepting  the  Lord 
Lieutenant  of  Ireland,  and,  I  believe,  the  Governor- 
(jpnoi'al  of  India.  J.  N. 

^I  el  bourne. 

Heralds*  College  at  Copenhagen. — Can  anv 
v>ne  inform  me  if  there  is  any  college  in  Copen- 


I 


hagen  which  answers  to  oulr  Heralds'  Colleffo  in 
London  or  the  Lvon  Office  in  Edinbuivhr    I 
there  is  I  should  be  glad  to  know  how  I  should 
address  it  by  letter.  H.  H.  R 

71,  High  Street,  Oxford. 

IIoRNECK   AND   Jessamt.  —  In   Tht  TimM  of 
January  5, 1872,  mention  is  made  of  Miss  Mwy 
Ilomeck  as  being  Goldsmith^a  "Jessamy  Bride. 
Will  any  one  kindly  explain  why  she  is  thn* 
called,  and  whether  Goldsmith  himself  gave  her 
the  name  P 

In  a  letter  to  Mrs.  Thrale,  July  6, 1776,  written 
at  Ashbourne,  apparently  at  Dr.  Tavlor's,  John- 
son says  he  is  glad  that  she  has  seen  tLe  Honeeb; 
and  Mrs.  Thrale,  writing  to  him  a  few  days  litflTi 
and  mentioning  Dr.  Taylor,  says  :— 

'*  To  whom  make  in  the  meantime  cor  best  oompK- 
meiitd,  with  love  to  Au  Jigg  amd  hi*  Jettamy" 

What  is  the  allusion  here  ?     JoHir  W.  BoKS. 
20,  Bedford  Tlace,  W.C. 

La  Fontaine. — Seeing  the  following  anecdote 
lately  in  a  Dublin  newspaper,  relating  to  La  Fon- 
taine, I  was  tempted  to  cut  it  out  and  send  it  to 
you.  Some  of  your  readers,  who  are  skilled  in 
psychology,  will  perhaps  be  able  to  say  whether 
such  a  story  is  probable  or  possible : — 

"  Some  friends  visited  La  Fontaine  one  evening  tai 
found  him  asleep.  WhUe  talking  with  his  wife,  La  Fot- 
taine  entered  in  his  nightcap,  without  shoes  or  stoddBA 
just  as  he  liad  risen  ifrom  his  bed.  His  eyes  wore  hu» 
open,  but  he  evidently  saw  no  object;  he  eruied  ths 
dining  room  where  the  party  were  sitting,  wpnt  into 
little  closet  or  cabinet  that  served  him  aa  a  study, 
shut  himself  up  in  the  dark.  Some  time  afto*,  beo 
out,  rubbing  his  hands  and  testifying  much  satiaftictiogr 
but  still  asleep ;  he  then' went  through-  the  dining^i 
quite  uuconseiou<)  of  the  presence  of  any  one,  and  r 
to  bod-.  His  wife  and  friends  were  veiy  curious  to 
what  he  had  been  about  in  the  dark.  They  all  w*^" 
into  his  study,  and  found  there  a  fable  newly  writtwittb^^ 
ink  bt'iui;  still  wet,  which  brought  conviction  that  be  ta^*" 
,  written  and  coitiposed  it  during  his  dream.  Hie  ■*"*' 
I  iiiirers  of  this  most  original  author  may  wish  to 
Avhich  fable  was  composed  under  these  extraord 
j  oireunistances.    It  is  one. that  is  replete  with  the 

natural  and  touching  language— it  is  that  whidi 

.  the  utmost  grace  of  expression  language  is  capable' 

I  in  a  word,  it  is  the  celebrated  fable  of  7%e  TVpo  Pi 

Wc  are  «ure  that  many  writers  ef  our  day  write 

I  thev  are  asleep." 

Dublin. 

f 

Mvxx  (JuoTATioNS.— In  Creg^een's  Monks -O*^ 
I  (ionan/,  under  the  word  **Scnptyr,"  is  the  (P''^ 
i  lowing : — 

I        "Te  coontit  tuahey  ooasle  dy  hoigffal  leighyn     JJ 

clia;:htaghyn  y  cheer  ta  dooinney  cnmmal  ayn.   Agh  ^^^ 

.  wuad  s'ouasle  eh  dy  hoiggal  slattysflyn  niau  aa  Ingf^,^ 

.  benynid  dy  bragh  farraghtyn  ta  ain  avns  ny  scripty*^*^ 

!  ca^icrick. 


And  I  should  be  glad  if  some  Manx  .___. 
would  oblige  by  stating  whence  the  qnotati^'^' 


k&  IX.  Feb.  8, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


06 


received  interpretation^  and,  if  anj^  special  ap- 

»tion. 

!n  the  same  dictionary,  under  the  word  QuaaU 

h,  are  the  correct  Manks  words,  but  not  the 

nslation,  of  the  communication  in  "  N.  &  Q." 

*  S.  iii.  424),  which  it  may  now  he  advisable 

aote.  J.  Beale. 

)ij)  Maps  of  London. — In  Cunningham's 
ndbook  of  London  (ed.  1860,  p.  16*.))  mention 
nade  of  a  map  of  Loudon  by  Augustine  Kyther, 
)4,  in  which  the  situation  of  the  Fortune 
eatre  is  said  to  be  "  distinctly  marked."  I  have 
uired  for  this  map  without  succesfi,  and  it 
uld  confer  a  great  favour  if  any  of  your  readers 
old  inform  me  where  a  copy  is  to  oe  found,  or 
.  me  the  localities  of  any  other  really  old  and 
le  known  maps  of  London. 

J.  0.  Halliwell. 

dART  Queen  of  Scots. — The  following  verses 
said  to  have  been  written  by  this  untortiinate 
Jen:  — 

"  QUEEN   MARY*8   IAMEXTATI<»X. 

'*  I  sigh  and  lament  me  in  vain, 

And  these  walls  can  but  echo  my  moun  : 
Alas  !  it  increases  my  pain,' 

When  I  think  on  the  days  that  arc  gone. 

**  False  woman !     For  ages  to  come 
Thy  malice  detested  shall  be ; 
For  when  we  are  cold  in  the  tomb. 
There'll  be  hearts  that  will  sorrow  for  mc. 

*•  The  owls  from  the  battlements  cry, 

Hollow  winds  seem  to  murmur  around, 
*  O  Mar}',  prepare  thee  to  die ! ' 
Mv  blood  runs  cold  at  the  sound.*' 

The  verses  and  the  tune  were  at  one  time — 
iny  years  ago — very  popular  among  the  pc»pula- 
n  for  miles  round  Derby.  The  tune,  which  I 
ve  never  heard,  was  one  of  the  chimes  on  the 
Us  at  the  church  of  All  Saints  in  that  town, 
i  was  only  played  on  tlie  market-day,  Friday, 
im  told  that  it  was  one  of  the  chimes  at  Lincoln 
thedral.  Have  the  **many  pleasing  verses'* 
itten  by  this  queen  ever  been  published  'i 

ThOS.  l^ATCLIFFE. 

Mafther. — This  word  is  used  in  Norfolk  as 
)  homely  name  for  a  young  girl.  Xares,  Hal- 
^ell,  and  Wright  give  it  in  their  glossaries,  but 
)  derivation  is  not  furnished.  Can  any  of  your 
iders  give  it  to  me  ?  Cornub. 

Dr.  T.  R.  Xash. — Where  is  the  best  memoir  of 
ah,  the  Worcestershire  historian,  to  be  found  ? 

n.  s.  s. 

The  best  account  of  the  Rev.  Trcadwav  Ru:<sell  Nash, 
J.  is  in  Chambers's  Biographical  I Uit»t rations  of  Wur- 
terthire,  p.  4.50.  Consult  alsp  Nichols's  Literary  Anec- 
a^  pastim ;  Getft.  Mag.  Feb.  1811,  p.  100;  Rose's 
^graphical  Dictionary,  and  "  N.  &  Q."  'i"**  S.  vii.  173, 
SiS'd.S.viii.  174.] 

^TJinsxATio  Blunders.  —  At  the  meeting  of 
B  liverpool  Numismatic  Society  held  on  I)e- 


cember  10,  1.870,  there  was  exhibited  a  ctowd 
piece  of  William  III.  which  bore  on  the  obverse,, 
mstead  of  the  legend  bei  gra.  the  blunder  gri 
ORA.  The  coin  had  been  in  circulation,  and  wa» 
slightly  larger  than  'other  crown  pieces  of  the 
same  reign.  Has  this  typical  blunder  been  de- 
tected before,  or  has  it  hitherto  escaped  the  numis- 
matist's eye  P  A  Member. 

[Two  of  these  inaccurate  pieces  (KJ9G)  turned  up  at 
the  sale  of  silver  coins  and  medals  of  G.  Marshall,  i>q.. 
(second  f>ortion)  on  July  1, 1852,  lot  110,  and  were  par- 
chased  for  the  British  Museum  for  sixteen  shillings.] 

Psalm  cix. — Can  any  of  your  readers  explain 
to  me  the  heading  of  Psalm  cix.  in  the  Prayer- 
Book  ?  The  Vulgate  has  *'  Deus  laudem  meam 
ne  tacueris,"  &c.,  but  all  the  Prayer-Books  I  have 
been  able  to  inSpect  give  **Deu.s  laudum.''  Is 
this  a  very  early  misprint  continually  xepeated  ? 

[The  Rev.  £.  H.  MacLachlan  writes  to  T^c  Giuirdian.: 
"  1  should  like  to  remark  that  the  reading  *  Deus  Jaudum  * 
seems  the  more  correct  of  the  two.  At  least  it  approach^^s 
nearest  to  the  Hebrew,  which,  literally  rendered,  stamts 
thus  :  *■  Oh,  God  of  my  praise,  be  not  silent ! '  So,  toe, 
the  Sj'riac,  *  Oh,  God  of  my  praise  (or  glory),  be  not 
still ! '  Our  Bible  and  Prayer-Book  versions  agree  with 
the  Hebrew  and  Syriac.  The  heading  in  question  is,  |>er< 
haps,  incomplete,  and,  had  it  been  fully  expressed,  it 
would  have  been  '  Deus  laudum  mearum,  ne  sileas.'  "1 

Quotations  wanted. — Many  years  ago  I  copied 

the  lines  enclosed.     I  found  them  scratched  on  a- 

pane  of  glass  in  a  little  back  room  of  an  inn  at 

Pangbourne.    The  last  time  1  visited  the  inn  they 

were  gone.     Some  raciness  as  well  as  marks  of  a 

practised  hand  leads  me  to  ask  if  any  of  your 

readers  know  «ught  of  them  P    The  date,  Juno 

1777,  was  also  scratched  oh  the  glass. 

"  In  search  of  Wisdom  far  from  Wit  I  fly — 
Wit  is  a  harlot  beauteous  to  the  eye. 
In  whose  bewitching  charms  our  early  time  we  spend,. 
And  vigour  of  our  youthful  prime —  * 
But  when  reflection  comes  with  riper  years, 
And  manhood  with  a  serious  brow  appears^ 
We  cast  the  wanton  off,  to  take  a  wife. 
And  wed  to  Wisdom,  lead  a  happy  life. 

"June  \17iy 

W.  R. 

*•  Oh  !  never  was  there  chieftain  so  dauntless  as  Dundee,. 
He  has  sworn  to  chase  the  Hollander  back  to  theZuv- 
derZee." 

The  lines  are    by  the  Hon.   George    Sidney 

Smythe.     In  what  volume  are  they  to  be  found  ? 

Julian  Sharman, 

*  [In  Smythe's  Historic  Fancies,  1H41,  p.  I>9.] 

Sandal- WOOD. — The  Santahim,  a  species  of 
sandalworts,  produces  an  odoriferous  kind  of  wi^od 
which,  being  pulverized,  is  burned  as  incense. 
What  confirmation  have  we  of  the  use  of  this 
same  wood  for  building  ?  A.  H. 

"The  Saresons  Grounde.** — What  would  this 
term  probably  mean  as  applied  to  land  in  th» 


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I 

town  of  Birminpham  in  the  sixteenth  centurv  ?        Samuel  Webbe,  Sen.,  a  g^iee- writer  of  giMt 
In  *•  N.  &  iir  (1«  S.  xi.  22i».  4^4 :  3'*»  S.  vi.  4.ji),  !  celebrity,  and  who  iiouriahed  during  the  iMt  en- 


ryJZ)  and  in  other  works,  it  states  that  the  naniu     tury,  ])ubli8hed  at  diflerent  periods  a  coQeel&im, 
"Sarseu"  wjis  jriven  by  the  early  Christian  Saxons  I  consisting  altogether  of  nine  numbers  of  fjitdm,' 

'  ,    ;      .  .1     -.^:_.._  1. _f    beginninj^  somewhere  about  the  year  1764.    Cut 

any  of  your  readers  give  a  copy  of  the  tide  of  the 
iirnt  number  published  P  The  second  u  entitled 
A  StToud  Collection  of  Canons^  Catchi's,  and  Ohet: 
but  the  iirst  number  is  said  to  have  been  oititled 


to  the  stones  in  and  about  the  various  barrows  of 
the  island  ;  / .  e.  Saracen  or  heathen  stones.  Sara- 
<m  and  Saraen  seem  to  me  entirely  diflerent 
words  ?  I  cannot  lind  tlie  wortl  Sttraccn  in  the 
Attt/lo'Sajoft  Chromclc  (see  even  the  Record  of 
the  Crusades  of  10<.M»  and  112S).  or  in  Kemble'ri  i 


Codv.v  Diplomafkvi(  Sn.c.     In  tho  latter  work  tlie  I  Cafrhrn,  Canotn^,  ami  Glees,  <J-c.  by  S.  Webbe. 
jreii nine  A.-S.  words  II {e^en-bvrigels  are  used  in  !  tJiis  Ko :"    If 


?<?»  .... 

no  less  than  forty-three  charters.  (See  Index,  vi.; 

In  Rees's  CtfvUipccdia  it  states  that  S^iraccn  U  ti 

word  of  *'  unascertained  origin."     I  do  not  recol- 

•  lect  it  in  A.-S.    The  old  y:ord  ftarccHct  (see  TroiluA 

avtl  Cremda,  Act  V.  Sc.  1 ,  and  Milton  h  Pttfurj  Bohn, 

184>^,  ii.  410)  ia  descriptive  of  the  texture  of  a 

certain  kind  of  tine  thin  wovuu  «jilk :  and  I  should 

think  that  the  term  **  sar.^en  stone ''  means  a  stone 

of  a  small  fine  grit,  in  contradistinction  to  a  coai-se 

one.     If  so,  this  would  not  apply  to  Rirmiugham, 

as  the  subsoil  of  the  old  town  is  free  from  all 

>t(ine  but  pebbles.  •  It  does  not,  I  think,  apply  to 

silk  manufacture,  notwitlistimdiiig  the  proximity 


The    Ladies*  Catch-book;    being  a  CoUeciiim  ^ 

not.  what  may  the  title  of  the  tint 

W.T.P. 


number  be  'i 


IJUEDKKODE  FAMILY. 

(4^»>  S.  viii.  2a3.). 

Some  eighteen  months  or  two  years  ago  I 
bought  of  Bachelier  Detiorennes  a  curioiu  MS. 
volume  purporting  to  contain  not  only  the  gcnft' 
nlogv  of  this  familv  but  also  its  various  intenntt^ 
riajres.  It  is  written  chiefly  on  parchment;  the 
lir.^t  part  in  Dutch,  the  later  parts  in  French.  It 
,  contains  about  two  hundred  coats  of  armsof  t&e 
to  Coventry.     There  is  a  family  named  Sarson  in,-  Brederodes  and   the   families  with  whom  they 


the  town,  but  I  cannot  trace  the  name  further 
back  tlian  a  hundred  yi-ars.  Is  it  not  more  likely 
to  be  descriptive  of  some  unoccupied  ground  con- 
nected ^vith  a  sieve  manufactory,  from  the  old 
wi»rd  M\r»v,  a  line  sieve,  tlie  wire  for  which  would 
probably  be  manufactured  ujmn  the  spot  where 
the  eifves  were  made':'  C  Chattock. 

Ca-tk'  liroiiiwich. 

Toi^.xisTKU. — Wanted  the  derivation  (u*  origin 
of  the  G»'nnau  word  Toruifter,  a  soldier's  knap- 
sack, llilpert  says,  **  Probably  from  the  Italian 
cam 4)0^  a  bread-basket  ** ;  but  though  that  may 
be.  how  did  it  come  into  Germany,  and  whence 
its  present  form  '"^  GujnrsTEiL. 

TifK  "  Vrtouy.'* — Who  chri^tened  the  ''Vic- 
tory," Xt^ltion's  flagship  at  Trafaljrnr  "t  She  was 
launched  at  Chatham  on  May  7,  lliM^t. 

Fl.AO-LlEUT. 

Writ  op  Hknry  III.  to  .Jorix  of  Monmoutft. 
A  corr»'S])ondent  lately  sent  a  copy  of  this  writ 
(dated  \'2\\^)  respectin<r  salmon-poaching  to  Land 
and  Water.  He  stateil  that  it  was  obtained  **from 
the  late  Mr.  Wakeman,*'  but  he  did  not  know 
whence  he  had  it,  nor  could  he  lind  it  in  IJymer. 
Is  the  writ  genuine ;  and  if  so.  where  may  it  be 
found 't  Pelau I  us. 

Miss  Ward. — There  is  a  volume  entitled  The 
linritd  Bride  and  oiher  IWms  (An<«i.),  no  date, 
but  published  in  I8:jl)  or  1840.  The  author  was 
Miss  Ward,  a  lady  of  Southampton,  who  died 
about  twenty  years  ago.  Can  any  of  your  readers 
give  me  the  date  of  Miss  Ward's  death,  or  any 
further  information  about  her?  K.  I>'gli8.' 


were  allied,  and  two  or  three  beautiful  miniitures 
and  one  line  ])ortrait  on  vellum  of  Adam  de  Brede- 
rode.  I  cannot,  writing  from  here,  give  a  nuxe 
detailed  description  of  this  MS.,  because  it  isnow, 
along  with  many  others,  on  its  way  to  Americe 
to  await  my  return.  I  may  add,  that  a  tD^ 
esteemed  Knglish  authority  inspected  it  on  one 
occasion  in  Paris,  after  it  came  into  my  posMMH'^ 
and  spoke  of  it  as  not  only  exceedingly  intfln>^ 
ing,  but  also  remarkal)le  for  prt^mting  so  ntfj 
internal  and  contemporaneous  proofs  of  its  »" 
th«;nticity. 

Accoi-ding  to  this  genealogy  the  last  of  ^ 
Brederodes  died  some  two  hundred  years  ^ 
tliough  as  to  the  date  I  am  veiy  far  from  otftifl^ 
a<  I  had  no  occasion  to  fix  that  point  in  my  IB^ 
mory.  But  the  fact,  that  this  was  the  last  0*'* 
of  the  family,  and  that  there  were  no  descendiB^ 
in  female  lines  carrying  the  blood  and  the  right  ^ 
quarter  tlie  arms,  was  distinctly  stated ;  and  *'^  f 
con'iequence  thereof,  when  this  noble  and  giD'^ 
youth  was  buried,  his  arms,  his  spura^  his  flif^''\S 
aiid  otluir  weapons  were  interred  with  him,  i^ 
his  shield  Cescutcheon  P)  reversed  aocoiding  to  ^^ 
ancient  and  honorable  custom  of  all  knightly  9f^ 
noble  families.*'  .  ^  -^ 

I  do  not  remember  the  name  of  the  pal*^^ 
church  where  he  was  buried,  but  when  oooe  m^'^^ 
amongst  my  books  will  give  a  copy  of  this  o^^^S^ 
ixmry  notice.  The  first  few  pages  of  the  1^^^ 
sot  forth  that,  although  all  men  are  deriTod 
a  common  tmcestor,  yet  the  differences  in  ch 
ter  gave  ascendancy  to  some,  so  thftt  mdifidi 
became  dominant  and  transmitted  their 


^8.  IX.  FKU.S.-7i.] 


XOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


thtit  familiiu ;  in  fact,  a  defence  of  caate  or  nobi- 
lity, witb  a  short  exposition  of  the  orijtin  of 
•rmoml  beiuin^'s,  at  lut  filidiapf  iuto  the  history 
of  the  first  tnown  or  reputed  aucestnr  of  "  tlus 
princely  house  of  Brederode."  Tlie  MSj.,  or  ntliar 
collection — for'it  is  the  work  of  sevuml  dillei'ent. 
hands,  thougli  forming  a  conlinuous  narrative — if 
edited  by  some  one  who  unilemtood  horaldry  find 
peoealof^y,  -would  mske,  I  think,  a  vuluable  addi- 
tion to  the  family  histories  of  the  Low  Countries. 
I  beg  kave  to  a»k  a  question  in  this  connection. 
Did  there  exist  generuUy  such  a  custom  as  that  of 
KTetsing  the  escutcheons  over  tiie  tomb  of  the 
last  of  a  race  ?  The  only  instance  which  I  have 
noticed  is  in  the  I^^gydiou  church  at  Nurambcr); 
of  a  FreiheiT  von  Tetzel,  who  died  in  ITiJi;.  The 
shields  gp  back  to  the  early  part  of  the  twcltth 
century,  and  the  family,  so  t>ajs  the  inscription. 
died  out  with  him.  The  shield  ia  painted  cunvctly, 
but  fastened  upside  down.  Tuos.  Balcu. 


\Vifciljadfn 


IMBRKLLAS. 

(4"  S.  viii.  1-28,  '271,  .-138,  423,  402.) 
The  unibrflla  mentioned  by  ynur  learned 
respondent   ¥.  C.  H.  was  probably 
tuimi/  years   n;n' 


.,   ,  ladv  1  know   has 

which  was  given  her  some  tew  years  piuce  very 
similar  to  the  one  described.  The  Aitfurencu  is  in 
tlie  handle,  which  in  made  of  light  iron  tubes, 
and  ojiens  and  sliuts  like  «t  tclescupe.  It  hangs 
to  the  waistband  by  a  ring  at  the  top,  and  is  very 
useful  iit  llower  .^lows  and  such  like,  in  sunshine 
and  shower,*.  ■  Ji'su  Nepos. 

As  an  appendix  to  F.  C.  II.'s  note  I  Bond-  the 
following,  an  extract  fr<mi  a  n-ci'Ut  number  of 
Xc  Cimh-ur  J'nudoui  of  Lausaiiue : — 

"  Lcs  innombrables  pnrapluipi  rjui  M  vmii^ent  dniis  Ics 
tata  ilonncruiit  quelquc  b  propm  aax.  licnes  Huivaaces. 
11  V  a  quelquM  inoin.  nuua  avoDS  drjit  ilit  iin  tiiot  dei 
fitiaitn  psraiiluie^  diiiit  un  fit  umko  en  Siii«e.  Vuiui 
maintitiinc  eomntenl  ils  fiinnt  acciicillia  en  An^ilctarni : 
"Ce  nVtait  |HU  une  ctacea  ordinaire,  b,  Londres,  qa'un 
lorapliiie  au  comnteiimnent  ilu  tivele  y*sai.  QucIijom 
ilanJys  Kulemcnt  w  Uawniaient  i  de^ilujer  cet  ia^'tru- 
ment  qui^  leri  bommea  ne  pumnt  petulant  lon(;teiim:t 
porter  sana  cnvourir  1«  rcpnicho  d'unii  (li!lioa(»aae  alK- 
miiice.  et  ciiii  fut  rafuKHlementtimMidtW  commcrattribut 
Hneutiel  d  one  claiae  d'homnio  cordiaUmcnt  difteslm  do 
la  populace  anglaise,  c'cst-k-diro  dc  la  gent  franfiiiae 
IrolitBttBs.  On  comments  par  adapter  le  parspluic  dana 
I«  catef,  oil  11  diait  tcnu  en  n.':wrve  |>our  leS  jp-aiidca 
occuons,  eomme  ponr  une  pluie  d'orage,  par  cxemplc 
Alon  on  le  prelalt,  ti  di^taut  d<i  voiture  ou  de  chaise  h 
poitenr,  aa  consommateur  ;  eneure  i-elui-ci  ne  vouloit-il 
pH  a'ea  cbar^Br.  Un  bomme  portant  uu  parapluie  {ws- 
>ait  uis  jieiix  de  tout  le  monde  pour  unc  v«riCalito  pelitc- 
malUEHe.  Eacoic  en  17T8,  un  certain  Jobo  Macdonald, 
Takt  de  pt«d,  qui  a  dcrit  les  memoine,  nconte  quo 
k>TM|«'il  lai  irriv^  da  prmdra  avec  Ini  an  fort  -beau 
le  qall  arait  rapport^  d'Rupa^e,  il  ne 
rlr  *  M  coamaJit^  la  peuple  lui  eriait  ds 


auilc  :  <  Ue!  mangieur  le  Franvuia,  puari|uoi  ni^  pnmez- 
voua  pas  un«  voiture  ?  '  Lc  flit  est  que  lei  mcbern  de 
fiacre  ec  l*<i  jwrleurg  dc  chaisee,  re'uni«  par  I'espril  du 
eurps,  fbrmalent  ane  coalition  tapageuae  at  I'urmidible 


ndit;  -An 


iC 


.  lie  1 


ricfaea.  on  rn  vnynit  nn  dc  grandc  dimension,  auspendu  . 
d:inii  le  vealibule  et  iteitim-  !t  abriter.  en  eas  d«  pluie.  les 
damra  on  Iw  ni¥-,si«in  dsiis  ie  tnyet  de  la  porta  ii  leur 
dqnipi^-.'  i>a  HL-ur  I'ut  lurcee  un  Jour  de  quitter  euu 
bras  p<iur  le  touslraire  au  Corn'jitd'iiijurti'populnireaqiie 
aon  parapluie  lui  avail  aliirv.  Sluia  il  ajuute  qu'il  per- 
^iBts  pciidaut  triiis  inuia,  et  qu'an  bout  de  i-e  lenipf  on  ne 
lit  jilua  d'attmtioa  a  cette  nouveaute.  Lea  I'tiangora  , 
commencerent  il  a  servir  du  Icura  paraplnieielleH  An- 
Cluiaauivirent  rc^einplB)  at  aujonnl'liui  vVsC  un  objetde 
grand  commerce  ii  Londres.  Co  valvt,  s'il  ni'  sen  fait 
pa*  truji  accroire,  Cut  done  le  premier  ijxii  ae  diatiuRUa 
dans  oetle  capitale  psr  I'uaage  d'un  parapluie  dc  Hit. 
Ym  ce  caa,  il  eat  le  fondateur  d'une  ^l'oIb  fort  uonibreuse. 
AuJDunl'bui  an  recenaenieut  de  parapluius  serait  en  mimti 
tcnips  uu  recBiiseuicut  dc  ]n>]mliiliou." 

■    Jauhs  HtsRT  Uisos. 

The  accounts  of  the  churchwardens  ofCran- 
lirook,  Kent,  aflbrd  another  instance  of  the  pnr- 
chase  of  n  parish  umbrella — "  I'M,  paid  for  an 
umbrella  12k."  This  purchase  is  ol  six  'yenn 
later  date  tlian  that  at  Sculcoatcs,  and  tlie  price 

Eaid  at  Crotibrook  b  only  sixpence  more  than 
alf  the  price  paid  at  Scukoatt's.     \V.  A.  S.  R. 


THE  DOCTRlSr:  OF  CEI.TICISIL. 
(4"''  S.  vii.,  \iii.,  pai-fiiii.) 
With  your  usual  courtesy  and  fairness,  I  feel 
assured  you  will  give  m^  leave  to  say  that  tc 
ridicule  what  as  h  reanua  appeared  to  me  some- 
what groteitquc — not  misrepre^ientiitiou — was  my 
ijitenlion  in  suggesting  a  compniison  between 
II.  R.'s  statement  of  the  views  of  ProfeasorTluxley 
and  the  narrative  of  Mark  Twain.  That  j  cited 
the  reason  tirst  given  by  II.  K.,  and  not  the  eutit« 

Eosaage,  was  simply  to  avoid  unnecessary  ver- 
iage,  not  deeming  his  teinarks  worthy  of  serious 
refutation.  It  is  idle  to  complain  of  my  way  of 
dealing  with  the  "argument  of  an  adve^oiy, 
for  argument  there  is  none.  I  presume  it  is  not 
pretfinded  tliat  I'rofessor  Huxley  lias  discovered 
nny  contemporary  record ;  if  not,  what  amount  of 
hypothetical  evidence  in  the  view  of  II.  Ii.  would 
he  Butiicient  to  overturn  au  historic  fact  ?  Pro- 
fessor Huxley  him.«elC,  ao  far  as  it  appears,  infers 
the  Celticism  of  the  early  inhabitants  of  the 
British  Isles  from  the  tatimony  of  exisLing  monu- 
ments, and  which  I  have  already  met  by  the  plain 
statement  of  fact  that  wherever  it  has  been  pos- 
sibic  to  bring  theee  to  the  test  of  competent 
scholarship,  such  have  invariably  proved  to  be 
Gothic  or  TcutoDtc.  It  is  surpriaing  to  find  this 
peculiar  dogma  asserting  itself  even  with  men  of 
acknowledged  scholarship  and  ability.    Mr.  W. 


98 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«k  a.  IX.  Feb.  fl^  72. 


F.  Skene,  in  his  preface  to  Fordun'g  CJtromca 
OetUis  Scotorum^  just  issued  from  the  press,  is 
clearly  unable  to  curb  his  strong^  Celtic  predilec- 
tions. "  What  Bower  does  in  his  account  of  these 
coronations,"  Mr.  Skene  says,  ''is  to  throw  the 
more  ancient  and  Celtic  element  into  the  back- 
l^ound,"  &c. :  the  fact  being  that  there  is  not  a 
tittle  of  evidence  to  show  that  such  an  element 
ever  existed.  Walter  I^wer,  as  is  well  known, 
was  the  continuator  of  Fordun's  narrative.  Good- 
all,  who  in  1744  issued  proposals  for  printing  the 
Scvto-chroni'coHy  with  Bower's  continuation,  says 
of  the  latter  that  he  — 

•*  Inverted  a  great  number  of  hifttorical  passages  very 
proppr  to  be  recorded  and  known,  which,  though  omitted 
by  ForduD,  are  of  equal  authority  with  his  own  work,  for 
Bower  ha(l  diligently  cpnsulted'  both  records  and  other 
authentic  monument^.'* 

All  this  Mr.  Skene  relates  in  his  preface — still, 
however,  regarding  it  as  "  unfortunate  '*  that  the 
fitatenionts  of  Bower,  rather  than  those  of  Fordun, 
should  have  boen  adopted  a»  the  basis  of  Scottish 
history.     Mr.  Skene  considers  it  essential  that 
Fordun's  narrative  should  be  distinguished  from 
the  ''interpolations  of  his  continuators,  and  re- 
produced freed  from  the  manipulation  it  has  under- 
gone at  their  hands :  '^  that  is,  that  as  the  state- 
ments of  Bower,  and  possibly  those  contained  in 
cortiiin  supposed  interpolations  which  may  not  be 
Bower's,  do  not  lit  with  the  "  Doctrine  of  Cel- 
ticism," tliese  "must  henceforward  be  discounted  | 
.  from  the  materials  of  authentic  history.     If  the  | 
ethnological  views  of  a  section  of  arcluvolo^'^ista  ! 
will  not  iit  the  rtu'ord,  the  record  must  be  altered 
to  lit  their  hypotheses,  and  this  pn^bably  furnishes  ' 
the   key  to  tlio  whole   undertaking.     Wo   lind  • 
Mr.  Cosmo  Innes  in  like  maimer  tampering  with  ' 
the  text  of  JMe.    How  the  circumstance  that 
Bc»wer  lived  a  generation  later  than  the  originator 
of  the  narrative,  whose  work,  with  equal  advan- 
tage's of  scholarship  and  acct>ss  to  the  then  existing 
records  of  events,  he  carried  forward  to  its  com- 
pletion, should  riMider  his  testimony  unworthy  of  ; 
credit,  I  fail  to  penvive.     On  the  contrary,  living 
nearer  to  ourselves  in  the  order  of  time,  and  of 
ronsoquenoe   more   remote   from   the  events   he 
describes,  he  must,  on  the  showing  of  H.  lu,  have  • 
had  '*  access  to  ,<umr  information  and  discussion 
that  were  not  accessible  to  that  eminent  writer." 

W.  J^. 
iil;ipjr»>w.  ; 

I  VhU  discussion  musi  now  ili»so." 


forty  years  agO;  I  and  a  schoolfellow  oocmmiUj 
visited  at  the  house  of  a  Mr.  Oxley,  a  apigMii 
there,  in  whose  garden  was  a  ^ve  and  tom]^ 
stone,  but  to  whose  memory  it  was  erected  I 
cannot  now  remember. 

Again  :  a  Mr.  Jonathan  Dent  of  Winterton,  da 
Lincoln,  a  very  eccentric  and  wealthy  man,  wa» 
buried  in  his  garden  some  thirty  years  ago;  Jnd 
his  old  housekeeper,  who  was  equally  as  eccentzic 
though  not  so  wealthy  as  her  master,  was  a  few 
years  afterwards  buried  in  her  garden  at  Sturtan, 
CO.  Lincoln. 

At  Ep worth,  CO.  Lincoln,  I  believe  there  are 
several  instances  of  burials  in  gardens.  Last  year 
a  friend  of  mine  purchased  a  medical  practice  at 
Epworth,  and  part  of  the  arrangement  was  that 
he  should  occupy  the  house  and  premises  of  his 
predecessor.  In  looking  over  the  agreement  as  to 
the  occupation,  I  found  a  clause  reserving  to  the 
landlord  the  right  of  access  to  the  garden  for  the 
purpose  of  "burying,  the  dead  of  his  family."  On 
inquiry  I  found  the  fact  to  be  that  the  familyborial- 
ground  of  the  landlord  was  actually  in  my  friend's 
garden  in  front  of  the  house,  and  within  nve  or  six. 
ieet  of  the  dining-room  window ;  that  the  landlord's 
father  was  buried  there  some  five  or  six  years 
ago ;  that  another  member  of  the  family  (an  old 
lady)  would  in  all  human  probability  be  buried 
there  at  no  ^ery  distant  date ;  and  that  the  land- 
lord himself  would  follow  suit  when  ,his  tune 
arrived.  The  funeral  of  the  landlord*s  father  took 
place  one  evening  when  it  so  happened  that  the 
medical  gentleman  who  then  occupied  the  house 
chanced  to  have  an  evening  party,  and  the  pro- 
ceedings at  the  funeral,  which  were  of  a  tsit 
simple  character,  were  witnessed  by  the  aasemlilea 
guests  from  the  dining-room  window.  No  graves 
are  visible,  but  below  the  grass-plot  (and  croquet- 
ground  !)  there  is  a  very  capacious  vault,  in  wmdi 
repose  the  remains  of  several  members  of  thisTexy 
curious  family. 

My  friend,  the  present  occupant,  watches  with 
some  degree  of  curiosity  the  health  of  the  old 
laily  who  is  to  bo  the  next  occupant  of  the  vault, 
but,  being  a  hard-headed  Scotch  Highlander,  he 
feels  no  interest  in  the  matter  beyond  curiosity.  I 
suppi  se  his  profession  has  hardened  him,  for  he 
says  he  fears  no  living  man,  and  he  is  sure  the 
dead  cannot  harm  him.  W'.  £.  IIowLETt. 

Dunstan  House,  Kirton-in-Lind9e3*. 


Vl'KIAl.S  IN  r.AKni:NS. 

C-l'**  S.  viii.  l.'U,  ru]\\) 

1  kr.MW  if  several  instances  of  burials  in  a 
ganli  n,  and  the  custom,  as  I  shall  shortly  show, 
is  not  even  yet  extinct  in  this  county  of  Lincoln. 
When  a  boy  at  Cwwle  (^co.  Lincoln),  more  than 


This  used  to  bt*  a  fn^quent  practice  in  the  "West 
Indies  amon^'st  the  esrlitrr  English  families  there* 

Aproj>t"»f,  perhaps  it  may  interest  P.  A.  L,  ta 
k:iow  that  at  much  personal  inconvenience,  and 
with  my  own  hands.  I  succeeded  in  removing  the 
doii^e  mass  of  creeping  plants  which  litezally 
covered,  as  with  a  given  mantle,  the  whole  of  the 
tombs,  near  Kingston,  Jamaica,  of  the  unfbrUuHto 
French  refugees  from  St.  Domingo;  and,  bavv 


a  IX.  Fbb.  8, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


99 


5rved  copies  of  the  epitaphs  that  now  form  a 
on  of  the  large  collection  of  similar  records 
or  earlier  colonists,  which  I  have  not  been 
to  publish  owing  to  a  variety  of  causes. 


the  register  of  deaths  kept  by  the  Society  of 
ads  (now  at  Somerset  House)  is  recorded  the 
ase  of  Edward  Champion  at  Murlinch,  Sonier- 
Dctober  30,  1680,  with  the  note—"  Buried  in 
:arden."         U.  O— X. 

DERBY  OR  DARBY. 

(4*^  S.  viii.  passim,) 

1  this  subject  it  is  at  least  incorrect  to  ask, 
ther  the  letter  e  was  formerly  pronounced  a  ? 
181).  The  vowel  letters  e  and  a  have  each  at 
?nt,  in  our  language,  three  distinct  full  vocal 
ds.  The  sounds  of  e  occur  in  we,  west,  and 
'.  Those  of  a  are  found  in  ware,  lias,  and  was, 
e  in  there,  and  the  a  in  ware,  are  practically, 
t  quite,  the  same.  E  and  a  occasionally  stand 
ive  of  the  seven  principal  vowel  sounds,  of 
:h  a  scale  has  appeared  ("  N.  &  Q.,"  4"»  S. 
23). 

le  question  which  continually  crops  up  like 
[uo's  ghost,  in  the  midst  of  bur  intellectual 
uet  in  "  N.  &  Q.,'*  seems  to  be  whether  the 
5  of  the  important  midland  town  .or  shire,  or 
p  district,  and  the  title  derived  from  one  or 
)f  them,  should  be  pronounced  as  if  spelt  with 
vith  a— Derby  or  Darby.  According  to  Glover 
by,  1831)  the  Romans^  called  a  place  near  it 
rventio."  In  the  reign  of  Athelstan  (025-41) 
in  struck  at  Derby  has  deoraby  marked  on 
Domesday  Book  calls  the  shire  "Dereberie";' 
in  Rymer's  FaiUra,  under  date  1109,  John  I., 
reby "  occurs.  But  a  still  earlier  mention 
ars'to  be  that  relating  to  the  Phcenicians, 
were  principally  interested  in  the  district 
its  smelting  works,  originally  carried  on  noar 
*  Tors  "  or  stony  bill  tops, 
le  vowel  sound  now  employed  to  pronounce 
V  seems  to  be  one  which  did  not  occur  in 
lloman  alphabet,  or  at  least  there  was  no 
rent  provision  made  for  it  by  a  distinct  vowel 
r.  The  Iloman  c,  like  the  Greek  epsilon,  was 
iblv  the  English  e  in  iJure,  or,  as  some  edi- 
of  Walker  have  it,  in  desist.  The  Romans 
ibly  pronounced  Dcrceutio,  Uaijrventio,  or  per- 
jJirveiifio  or  JJurve^ftio,  which  approached 
entio.  There  is  a  village  on  the  river  Der- 
,  near  Derby,  at  present  called  Darley.  In 
rica,  to  which  emigrating  colonies  transported 
ames  of  our  towns,  there  are  more  "Darbys" 
"  Derbys*'  amongst  the  designations  of  places. 
my  names  and  words  appear  to  have  pos- 
1  a  double  original^  as  if  it  had  required  two 
itil  tooices  to  produce  vigorous  verbal  off- 


spring. If  the  Phoenicians  regarded  Derby  as  tho  ^ 
dep6t  of  their  smelting  works  amongst  the  ^'Tors" 
in  the  upper  vaUey  of  the  Derwent,  they  may  . 
have  given  it  the  oroad  sound  afterwardis  pre- 
served on  the  Saxon  coin  marked  dborabt,  and 
probably  pronounced  Dyorhy.  The  river  Derwent 
may  have  either  had  originally,  or  have  come  to 
bear  a  less  broad  initial  syllable,  and  the  town 
may  have  had  its  name  modified  as  the  dwelling 
on  the  Derwent.  As  for  the  title  of  the  Stan- 
ley family,  even  if  at  was  given  from  a  district 
stUl  called  *'  Darby,''  it  is  quite  natural  that  at 
court  the  name  should  be  refined  into  its  present 
usual  sound,  especially  if  the  great  midlanoL  town 
was  so  called.  Johax. 


Leland's  Itinerary  speaks  of  **  Darby,  a  market- 
town  in  Darbyshire."  A  map  of  the  county  has 
the  following  title :  "  Comitatus  Darbiensis.  Vaik 
and  Shenk,  Amsterdam,  1680";  and  another, 
undated  one,  is  inscribed  ^^  Darbiensis  Comitatus, 
vernaculi  Darbieshire."  In  many  of  the  parish 
registers  of  the  seventeenth  century,  and  in  several 
old  deeds  of  that  date  also,  I  find  the  name  pho- 
netically spelt.  J.  Chaeles  Cox. 

Hazelwoud,  Iklper. 

• 

In  the  year  1833  I  was  a  passenger  by  the  mail 
coach  (occupying  the  box-seat)  from  Manchester 
to  London,  leaving  Manchester  0  a.m.  At  Derby 
we  dined,  and  changed  our  coachman.  Resuming 
my  place  on  the  box,  I  recognised  in  our  new 
coachman  a  former  whip  of  a  Norfolk  coach  run- 
ning through  Cambridge.  After  some  conversa- 
tion of  old  times,  I  put  the  question  (on  his  telling 
me  that  he  had  dnven  the  Manchester  mail  out 
of  Derby  for  the  last  six  months) :  "  Then  ypu 
must  be  some  authority  as  to  the  pronunciation  of 
the  name  of  the  town.  Is  it  Derby  or  Darby  ?  " 
**Well,  sir,''  replied  my  friend,  "you  see  it  is 
called  J)arby;  as  if  it  was  spelt  with  a  ha  in- 
stead of  a  he ! "     Surely  this  must  be  conclusive. 

R.  S.  E. 

Copenhagen. 

[This  discussion  must  dot/  close.] 


-  WITH  HELMET  ON  HIS  BROW." 
(4^»»  S.  ix.  lo.) 

Mr.  SiErnEX  Jackson  asks  for  information 
about  two  or  three  old  songs  and  tunes,  to  which 
I  respond  with  pleasure.  The  song  "With 
Helmet  on  his  Brow "  was  written  to  a  French 
melody,  of  no  great  antiqidty,  entitled  "  Le  petit 
Tambour."  It  was  very  popular  in  France  about 
forty  years  ago,  and  perhaps  originally  belonged 
to  some  vaudeville.  The  composer  is  not  known 
to  me,  nor  am  I  acquainted  witii  the  author  of  the 
English  words. 

"  Robin  Adair "  is  an  ancient  Irish  air  known 


f;' 


100 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<h  S.  IX.  Fbb.  a,  *». 


as  Eileen  Annmj  and  by  «)ther  names.  It  was 
revived,  to  the  words  of  *'Kobin  Adair,"  by 
Braham  in  1811,  who  Siin'r  it  at  his  benefit  at 
the  Lyceum  on  December  17  in  that  year.  The 
wordd  and  mu.-*ic  were  then  published,  the  latter 
an'anged  by  Williaui  Kt'ove,  tht?  leadur  of  the 
orchestra  (it  the  Lvceum.  Boieldieu  introduced 
the  air  in  his  opera  of  Jm  Dame  Bhinvhv,  but  it 
must  have  been  composed  a  couple  of  centuries 
before  he  was  born. 

"The  Last  Rose  of  Summer*'  is  a  melody  of 
far  less  antiquity  than  that  just  mentiont*d.  It  i.> 
also  known  as  "The  (.i roves  «>f  Blarney,"  and  was 
broujrlit  into  popularit}'  about  ITDs,  throu^^h 
Milliken's  well-KUOwn  sonjr  being  written  to  its 
strains.  Tl)o  old  name  ap])ears  to  have  been 
**La(ly  JenVies'  Deli^'ht.'*  Flotow  introduced  it 
in  his  op«ra  of  Martha  (\f^)t1)  :  hence  he  is  some- 
times i;:^norantly  s^upposed  to  have  been  its 
compost^r. 

*'  Home,  sweet  Home,''  is  really  the  ('omposili'">ii 
of  Sir  Ili-niy  Bishop,  wh«)  inserted  it  in  his 
Katitnial  MvhMlic<  as  a  '*  Sicilian"  air,  but  after- 
wards confessed  to  its  beinjr  his  own  composition. 
lie  introducod  the  melody  to  the  words  of  "ITnuio, 
sweet  Home,"  in  Howard  Pavne's  opt^ra  of  Clari 
(18J."J),  from  which  time  its  popularity  com- 
menced. I  have  frequently  talked  witli  tlie  late 
Sir  Henry  about  his  dramatic  productions,  when 
this  was  mentioned ;  and  our  meetinjrs  wei*e  not 
.  unfrequent,  a-^'  1  had  the,  pleasure  to  assist  him  in 
the  compilati'Mi  of  his  Lectures  delivered  at 
C)xford  and  el.-ewliere.  Donizetti  introduced  the 
air  (with  some  alterations)  in  his  opera  of  Anna 
Bolvna  ('18-b),  but  he  never  dreamt  of  claimin^^ 
its  composition.  The  idea  wils  to  jrive  character 
to  an  old  English  story  by  introducing  a  popular 
English  melody.  It  was  suggested  to  the  com- 
poser by  Madame  Pasta,  who  perfv)rmed  the 
heroine.  I  niav  add  tliat  I  havi>  seen  two  coUec- 
tions  of  songs,  one  printed  at  Milan,  the  otliur  at 
Naples,  in  both  of  which  the  air  of  **  Home, 
sweet  Home,"  nppears  with  the  name  of  Doni- 
zetti as  the  compoxfir — thus  giving  currency  to 
the  ^Kjpular  error.  }m)Wari)  F.  KinuArLT. 


Jekvis  :  Jarvis  (4t»»  S.  viii.  539.)— I  think  I 
can  adduce  a  very  good  reason  for  Jervis  not  being 
pronounced,  as  it  too  fi'e^uently  is  by  penont  ao( 
of  the  family,  as  Jarvis.    The  ancestor  of  the 
Stallbi-dshire  Jervis  family,  of  whom  Viscount  St, 
Vincent  is  a  junior  branch,  descends  from  Ger-' 
vasius    do    Standon ;    whose    ^rrandston,   Robert 
(jervays  do   Chatculme   (18  Edward  III),  'kid 
Anglicised  the  name,  and  in  1496  it  becomei' 
James  Jervys  of  Chatkyll.   Gerrasius  is  the  ch» 
tiiui  name,  drnved  from  the  martyr  St.  GemK 
(or  St.  (lervais),  who  is  commemorated  with  St   , 
PiotJisc'  on  June  11)  in  Spain,  and  on  the  following. 
(lay  in  France    The  name  of  Gervase,  as  a  Chn^ 
tian  ]iame,  may  be  found  in  the  Markham  DGimilr, 
and  1  doubt  not  in  manv  others.  ThiNL 

Staitiie  (4^»'  S.  viii.  395,  489;  ix.  23)  is  d»- 
ived  from  the  A.-S.  stsecS,  or  staft,  a  Aoro  « 


riv 
bank. 


AViLLIAM  ALDIS  WueHT.. 


Cambridge. 


I  have  known  this  air  for  the  last  fortv  vears  as 
that  of  a  l-'rencli  or  perhaps  Swiss  song,  com- 
mencing "  Je  suis  le  petit  tambour."  Tho  rest  of 
the  song  I  have  forgotten,  if  I  ever  kni.'.w  it.  My 
belief  is  that  our  version  is  an  adaptation,  but  1 
can  giv«  no  authority  for  this  opinion.  C.  S. 

England  has  no  claim  to  the  air  of  this  song, 
which  is  that  of  tlie  well-known  French  chanson 
**  Je  suis  le  petit  tambour."  My  copy  of  tlic  sonir 
(a  manuscript  one)  states  tlio  air  to  be  "  French, 
adapted  by  G.  W.  llecve,'*  but  does  not  name  the 
author  of  the  words,  whicli  are  not,  I  think,  de- 
void of  merit.  H.  A.  Kennedy. 

Waterloo  Loilgc,  Reading. 


In  Cumberland  this  name  is  applied  to  a  depot 
for  C()als,  &c.  At  Brampton,  for  instance,  the 
coals  from  the  Karl  of  Carlisle's  pits  are  broogkt 
l>y  rail,  and  deposited  near  the  outskirts  of  the 
town,  at  a  place  which  has  always  been  knovnii 
the  Cual-daith,  J,  MAOftUESI' 

Change  ok  Laptissial  Nakgs  (4*  S.  A 
pa<,'i{in :  ix.  ID.) — The  daughters  of  the  oeleteitoi 
Maria-Theresa  of  Austria  had  two  baptitail 
names  :  the  tirst  was  their  mother's.  (Thisciutoa 
still  obtains  now-a-days  in  Catholic  countries.  I 
know  a  lady  whose  name  is  also  Marie-Theni^ 
and  whose  daughters  are  called  Marie- Josephintf 
Ma ri« '-Sophie,  and  Marie  Carola). 

( >ne  of  the  daughters  of  the  great  omprev  of  ; 
Austria  was  th(^  lovely  and  ill-fated  Marie-Antfli- 
nette.  Her  sister,  likewise  a  queen,  was  christenrf 
Marie-Charlotte.  She  was  called  by  the  Utter 
name  in  iier  family,  and  always  signed  ChariottCf 
but  in  Italy  she  was  yclepeJl  Caroline,  and  ^ 
that  name  is  she  known  in  history. 

The  eldest  sister  of  Napoleon,  the  wife  of  Frf^ 
IJacciochi,  who  afterwards  became  Ducheas  * 
Lucca  and  Piombino,  under  the  name  of  B3i>>» 
had  been  christvned  Marie- Anne,  and  in  1792**' 
signed  Mariamie.     (St'e  La  Revue  rHro9ptd^\^ 
oil   Ijibliuthequc  hidorique,  No.  xii.  Sept.  183|») 
In  her  Actc  dc  Xaismtice  she  is  mentionea  as  lirijj 
born  on  .Ian.  :\  1777,  *■  Fille  du  tres-illustre  ^ 
Charles  dt?  Buonaparte,  Noble  du  Royaume,  et  ^ 
la  tres-illustre  Dame  Marie  I^iaetitia  son  ^^f^io0^ 
Tlie  coat  of  arms  of  the  family  is  likewise  th^ 

.P.A.  J> 


given. 


Punishment  of  Mutiny  (4*  S.  viii.  640.?  T^ 
It  was  that  grand  sailor  Captain  Pellew,  AfB«^ 
wards  Ijord  Exmouth,  who  uttered  the  tlir^ 
alluded  to  by  M.D.  I  have  not  Iiia  Life  hj 
but  I  can  tius^  my  memory.  A  supposed ^u 
rigiblo  character  liad  been  transfenrea  to.  bis 


:.  Feb.  3,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


101 


iher.  Captain  Pellew  greeted  the  new- 
*I  know  all  about  you,  and  what,  your 
•  13,  my  man.  I'll  give  you  a  fair  start, 
11  that  is  past  be  past ;  but  if  you  take  to 
at  mutiny  on  board  my  ship,  by  (iod,  I'll 
L  headed  up  in  a  cask  and  cast  you  loose 
The  threat,  or  rather  the  character  and 
>f  the  man  who  uttered  it,  answered  its 
lly.  Whether  it  would  have  been  acted 
of  course,  be  questioned.  E.  A.  II. 

jr.  has  ?ijicr'  sent  another  versi«»n  of  thi«i  story, 
in  Lord  CAjllingwood's  Life  and  Memoir.] 

E  OF  Floi)I)1-l\  Field  (4^**  S.  viii.  041).) — 
isox  will  find  a  lii>t  of  tho  Scottish  noble- 
.  ^^entlemen  who  were  killed,  taken  pri- 
•r  escaped,  in  71u'  Buttle  of  Flodden,  by 
White,  Newcustle-OD-Tviie,  printed  by 
gg  &  Co.,  L'^.'iO,  and  published  orijrinally 
irchceoloffia  (I'llimuu  vol.  iii.,  new  series, 
lie  best  account  of  the  batth;  1  have  met 
here  is  al.so  auuther  by  the  llev.  Robert 
.•ur  of  r>raiixton,  l^rno.  Pilai-kwDod  &  Sons, 
ntaiuin^'-  a  number  nf  iutcrestiu^  detahsi. 
rlish  lost  very  few  otlicers,  and  these  are 
wn.  But  a  list  of  thi»se  who  di.stin«ruished 
es,  and  received  the  honour  of  knight- 
lu  the  Karl  of  Surrey  in  consequence,  will 
I  in  *'  A  Contemporary  Account  of  the 
irinted  by  Mr.  David  Laing  in  the  seventli 
of  the  Proccvfh'ttfj's  of  the  A'Suciett/  of  Auti- 
f  Scotland,  p.  101.    *  '     "W.E. 

vixiD  Cheese  {4'*»  S.  viii.  480,  OoO.) — 
irdson's  Dutionnnj  it  is  stated  that  ciiuiy 
■d  is  derived  from  fyftif/ :  the  past  paili- 
\.S.  fyfiif/-cany  to  spoil,  corrupt,  decay  : 

of  Chauc«'r*s  wonls  are  become,  a^  it  were, 
r  hoarie  witlj  »)V«:T  hmix  lying.'' — Beaumont, 
J  Speplit,"  (Chaucor,  llJOi').' 

5on  adds :  — 

omarks,  that  the  Devonsliiie  piHjjde  call  broad, 

•„  vinnt/y  when  spoilt  by  WMuld  or  must." 

speare  has  the  word  — 

*•  Speak,  then,  yon  viiu'teetlst  leaven.'' 

1'roitiis  and  Crtssidfij  ii.  1. 

Iter  editions.  The  quarto  has  *^  vnsalted," 
folio  *•  whiuid-st."  Johnson  suggests  that 
?are  altered  vmiaUid^  remembering  that 
salt  was  no  fault  in  leaven, 
er  form  of  the  word  is  fenowed.  The 
a  "  is  a  panary  of  wholesome  food  against 
traditions ''  (Translator's  Preface  to  Auth. 
)  From  the  same  A. -8.  word  we  get/<^//, 
applied  to  any  corrupt  matter,  but  now 
stagnant  water  or  marsh.  Thomson 
f  *'  the  putrid  fens." 

ibove  extracts  will  show  why  the  term 
given  to  a  particular  sort  of  cheese,  which 
;pe  until  it  Ls  rather  "gone";  they  will 
>laiQ  the  application  of  the  word  to  a 
ihild.  T.  Lewis  0.  Davies. 


The  Dttke  of  Wellington  and  the  Bishop 
OF  London  (4»»»  S.  viii.  433,  664.)— I  related  the 
anecdote  referred  to  as  the  duke  himself  related 
it  in  the  hearing  of  twenty  persons,  and  I  affirm 
that  my  version  is  word  for  word,  with  very  slight 
variations,  the  duke's  own.  The  most  improbable, 
if  not  impossible,  fiction  of  the  *' breeches"  is 
self-evidently  grafted  upon  it  by  some  humorist. 

I  say  '*  word  for  word,"  but  make  an  exception, 
because  it  is  possible  that  the  duke  may  have 
said  *•  beeches "  instead  of  *'ti-ees";  but  his  ex- 
planation of  his  own  interpretation,  that  "the 
Bishop  of  London  possessed  an  estate  near  Ilar- 
row,"  &c.,  sets  aside  thLs  absurd  caricature  of  the 
incident.  It  is  not  possible  that  two  such  mis- 
takes should  have  occurred. 

IIERBEIIT  liANDOLPn. 
Ringinore,  Ivybrid^e. 

I  have  heard  this  story  as  told  by  your  two 
correspondents  in  **  N.  &  Q."  of  Dec.  30:  but  as 
Mk.  Kandolpii  savs  nothing  about  the  breeches 
part  of  it,  and  he  h(?ard  the  duke  tell  it  himself, 
1  am  afraid  we  must  reluctantly  give  up  this  part. 
1  sav  reluctantlv,  beeause  the  storv  as  your  other 
correspondents  tell  it,  and  as  I  heard  it  many 
years  ago,  is  a  capital  one ;  but,  like  many  capital 
stories,  too  good  to  be  true.  One  can  hardly 
imagine  a  more  farcical  incident  than  the  Bibhop 
of  Ijondon's  receiving  a  note  from  the  Duke  of 
Wellington  oll'ering  to  show  him  as  many  pairs 
of  breeches  as  the  bishop  wished  to  see. 

Apropos  of  breeches,  may  1  tell  you  that  a  friend 
of  mine  once  asked  me  if  a  Breeches  Bible  was  so 
cjiUed  b*3cause  it  was  meant  to  be  put  in  the 
breeches  pocket !  ^  Jonathan  Bouchier. 

15ATTLE  OF  IIarl.vw  (4'**  S.  viii.  (i'27 ;  ix.  46.) — 
For  a  prose  account  of  this  battle  I  would  refer 
W.  A.  to  Boece's  Chronicles  of  Scotland^  trans- 
lated by  Bellendm,  ed.  l^^21,  ii.  485 ;  Scott's  Prose 
JVork.^  ed.  lr>10,  xxii.  !?.■>();  and  Ty tier's  Ilistory 
of  Scotland^  edf  1841,  iii.  140.  Ty  tier's  account  is 
the  longest,  but  they  do  not  seem  to  differ  ma- 
teriallv.  "  Arch.  Watson. 

Gla.'igow. 

Miss  Edgewoiith  (4'**  S.  viii.  451, 557.) — I  beg 
to  inform  Thus  that  a  verj-  interesting  work  in 
three  volumes  was  printed  some  years  ago,  for 
private  circulation  only,  under  the  title  Jiecollec- 
tioji.i  of  MisH  Edyeivorth,  It  was  reviewed  in  the 
Edinburgh  for  October,  18G7.  A  friend  of  mine, 
who  is  intimately  acquainted  with  the  Edgeworth 
family,  kindly  lent  me  his  copy ;  and  I  cannot  help 
expressing  my  deep  regret  that  so  truly  valuable 
a  contribution  to  the  history  of  contemporary 
society,  both  in  England  and  abroad^  should  be 
withheld  from  general  circulation. 

llarrow-on-the-Hill.  GuSTAVE  MaSSON. 

There  is  an  interesting  autobiography  of  Miss 
Maria  Edgeworth*s  father,  entitled,  Richard  LoveU 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<i>  8.  IZ.  Fn.  8,  71. 


Edgeioorih^s  Memoirs^  begun  by  himself ,  and  con" 
eluded  by  his  Daughter^  Maria  JEdgeworth,  A  third 
edition  was.  published  in  London,  1844,  8vo. 

C.  o.  K.. 
St  Peter*s  Square,  Uamniersmitb,  W. 

Taaffe  Family  (4***  S.  ix.  15.)  —  la  not  the 
Taaffe  mentioned  by  S.  probably  Chrisfophery  not 
Charles?  This  Chnstopher  was  the  son  of  John 
Taaffe  of  Bally bragan,  co.  Louth,  by  Mary  the 
daughter  of.  his  uncle,  Sir  William  Taafte  of  bmar- 
more,  the  father  of  Sir  John,  the  iirst  Viscount 
Taaffe,  and  ancestor  of  the  Earls  of  Carliugton. 
Christopher  married  Lady  Susanna  Plunket, 
daughter  of  the  Earl  of  Fingall,  and  was  the  an- 
cestor of  the  Mayo  branch  of  the  family.  lie  was 
engaged  in  the  rebellion  of  1041,  and  his  estates 
were  forfeited,  and  after  the  restoration  appear  to 
have  been  granted  to  his  cousin  Theobald,  the  first 
Earl  of  Carlington,  from  whom  he  is  very  likely 
to  have  had  a  lease.  See  the  Memoirs  of  the 
Taaffe  Famibjy  privately  printed  at  Vienna  in 
185G.  J.  R.  M. 

RuDSTOX  MoNOLXTH  (4***  S.  viii.  passim;  ix. 
20.)  —  More  than  forty  years  ago  I  carefully  ex- 
amined this  remiirkable  monument,  and  ascer- 
tained that  it  was  formed  of  a  rock  derived  from 
the  same  tertiary  formation  as  most  of  the  pillars 
of  Stonehenge  and  other  monuments  of  the  same 
kind  in  that  part  of  England,  which  Professor 
Buckland,  from  its  extensive  use  in  such  works, 
at  one  time  named  **  Druid-sandstone."  I  com- 
nmnicated  niv  observations  to  him  at  the  time, 
and  sent  a  drawing  and  specimons  of  the  stone  to 
the  Geological  Society.  W.  C.  Tuevelyax. 

Nettlec(»inb. 

BoswELL  (4'*"  S.  viii.  4:3:^,  ooT.)  —  Waltheof 
has,  I  think,  misunderstood  Gray's  remarks  on 
l^oswell,  so  far  at  least  as  they  refer  to  his  being 
b<3rn  two  thousand  years  after  his  time.  Gray 
does  not  sav  this  of  ]5oswell,  so  far  at  least  as  I 
understand  him,  but  of  I'aoli.  If  Waltheof  will 
refer  to  my  note  and  read  my  quotation  from  Gray 
again,  I  fhink  he  will  see  that  the  phrase  is  applied 
to  Paoli.  With  regard  to  Gray's  implication  that 
Boswell  was  a  fool,  and  Macaulny's  estimate  of 
him,  that  ho  wns  *'  one  of  the  smallest  men  that 
ever  lived,''  I  can  onh*  say  that  I  think  they  are 
both  right.  He  was,  indeed,  the  groatest"of  bio- 
grapherc*,  but  liis  character  (his  admiration  of 
Johnson  and  P.iuli  excepted)  seems  to  me  con- 
temptible. Macanlay  calls  him  "  a  dunce,  a  para- 
site, and  a  coxcomb,'^  and  still  harder  names.  His 
hero-worshipping  tendency,  however,  undoubtedly 
saved  him  from  utter  degradation.  His  motto 
seemed  to  be  '*  Meliora  probo,  deteriura  sequor." 
I  do  not  know  tliat  we  should  be  j untitled  in  sav- 
ing that  Boswell  devoted  himself  to  men  like 
Johnson  and  Paoli  merely  because  .they  were 
famous;  he  evidently  had  a  genuine  love  for  no- 


bility of  character  and  loftindss  of  intellect  ia 
others,  although  he  had  so  little  of  either  himaeU. 
I  must  not,  however,  write  an  essay  on  Bosifellf 
so  I  will  say  no  more.        Jokathait  BorcHiis. 

"  A  PRETTY  Kettle  op  Fish"  (^^  S.  viii.  648) 
is  said  to  take  its  origin  from  a  particular  land  of 
fete  chaynpHre^  where  salmon  was  the  principal  diaL 
The  party,  providing  themselves  with  a  laige 
caldron,  selected  a  place  near  a  salmon  river.  The 
salmon,  after  being  well  boiled  in  brine,  was  ptf- 
taken  of  by  the  companj  in  gipsy  fashion.  The 
discomfort  of  such  a  pic-nic;  eapeciallj  in  bad 
weather,  is  thought  by  some  writers  to  have  given 
rise  to  the  phrase  ^'  a  pretty  kettle  of  fish." 

''  Kittle  of  fish  *'  is  imother  saying,  signifying  9l 
pretty  muddle,  the  term  being  derived  from  uo 
Kittle  of  fish  or  apparatus  of  pulleys  employed  txm. 
dragging  the  flukes  of  the  anchor  towards  tfa^ 
bow  after  it  had  been  hoisted  to  the  cat-head.  L^ 
the  pullers  in  question  got  out  of  order  theV' 
were  not  inaptly  termed  "  a  pretty  kittle  of  fisL'* 
Whether  the  sea  or  land  term  is  tha  correct  ex—' 
planation,  I  will  not  pretend  to  say.    Sb  "VV— 
Scott,  in  St.  Itonan^s  Well,  refers  to  the  practice" 
of  the  pic-nic  at  the  river's  side.         J.  A.  S.  L. 

Edinburgh. 

Walpoliana  (4}^  S.  ix.  18.)— Lowndes  stated 

these  ana  to  have  been  collected  by  John  Pinker^ 

ton.     While  mentioning  this  book,  it  is  well  ti> 

note  the  following  remarks  of  Miss  Beny : — 

"  Talking  of  work?,  don't  let  me  forget  to  answer  your 
question  about  the  Walpoliana.  If  you  had  seen*  jon 
would  not  doubt  what  we  must  think'iUx)at  it — that  it  ta 
infamous  thus  to  make  a  dead  man  speak,  and  oonn- 
quently  say  whatever  his  editor  pleases,  which  is  DOto* 
riDusIy  the  case  in  many  instances  in  the  Wtdpoliamaf 
besides  repeating  private  and  idle  conversation,  <tf  which, 
of  all  other  things,  poor  Lord  Orford  had  the  eicatest 
dread.  I  was  at  first  almost  sorry  to  flnd  that  &  dad 
had  spoken  civilly  of  us,  for  fear  anybody  might  snppoH 
we  countenanced  such  a  work  ;  but  I  am  t<ud,  which  I 
own  I  did  not  expect,  that  it  has  not  at  all  succeeded, 
that  it  is  generally  decrie<l,  known  not  to  have  our  sanc- 
tion, and  that  the  bookseller  has  lost  money  by  it,  which 
last  one  must  be  glad  to  hear,  as  otherwise  the  editor 
might,  and  I  daresay  would,  have  made  other  two,  or 
otiicr  six,  such  volumes,  whenever  he  pleased.**— JonnM/ 
ami  CurrcspoiidcHCe,  ii.  i08,  cd.  18G5. 

S.  W.  T. 

IIarleian  Society  (4t«>  S.  viiL  434,  520.)— 
With  all  respect  to  Mr.  Marshall,  I  mast  oon- 
tond  that  his  note  of  explanation  respectingtlie 
vohimc  which  he  has  recently  edited  for  the  Hti^ 
Itiinn  Society  fully  hears  out  my  complaint.  The 
society  promised  hy  its  prospectus  a  copy  of  the 
;  Visitations  of  Notts  of  loOO  and  1614,  ana  I  cannot 
think  that  this  ][)romise  has  heen  fulfilled  by  a 
^*  faithful  transcript  of  Ilarl.  MS.  1556  collated 
with  Ilarl.  MS.  1400,"  inasmuch  as  these  MSS. 
juinhle  toprether,  more  or  less  accurately,  the  pedi- 
grees in  both  \'isitations  with  '^  enlaigementi " 
and  other  pedigrees  by  an  anonymous  compiler. 


4*8.  IX.  Feb.  3, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


103 


I  do  not  doubt  that  the  editor  has  faithfully  re- 
produced the  MSSm  but  it  is  impossible  to  dis- 
tin^sh  in  this  volume  whether  any  particular 
pedigree  depends  o^  the  authority  of  the  Visita- 
tion of  15G9  or  that  of  1614,  or  upon  any  authority 
at  all.     The  volume,  therefore,  is  worthless  for 
Hstorical  purposes.     It  may  be  said  that  the 
society  haa  not  access  to  the  original  Visitations 
of  Notts ;  but  they  were  surely  not  obliged  to  print 
these  particular  Visitations  at  all.     The  British 
Museum   contains  Visitations  •  of  other  counties, 
which  are  either  originals  or  copies  by  well-known 
heralds ;  and  moreover,  there  are  many  genealo- 
gical MSS.  such  as  Le  Neve's  Knights,  which  are 
as     interesting   as  any  Visitation.      Such   MSS. 
fill  ould  surely  be  exhausted  first.    The  Harleian 
Society  has  taken  up  an  important  position,  and 
its     subscribers  have  a  right- to  protest  against  its 
fiincls  being  wasted  on  printing  MSS.  which  can- 
npt;  promote  the  true  interests  of  genealogy  and 
history.  Tewars. 

'*  Spebl*'  (4***  S.  Tiii.pamm:  ix.  21.) — I  copy 

frc>ixi  my  fragmentary  MS.  before  alluded  to  in 

these  pages   (the  work  of  Boucher,  Barker,  & 

Hunter),  the  following  notes  on  spail: — 

^  ^pail.  Chips,  splinters ;  any  small  pieces  of  wood  of 
wb-ioh  no  use  can  be  made.  (See  Grose's  Frov.  Di'c- 
^'•««rjry;  the  Tintr  to  the  Caves,  and  Gloss,  to  Exmoor 
^^iding.)  Skinner  has  it  in  his  Etymologicon^  and  says 
°*  tiook  it  from  Higgins.  It  is  common  in  all  the  Eng- 
"*^  northern  counties. 

"  Too  late  I  knew,  Quha  hewis  to  hie. 
The  spail  sail  fall  into  his  eie.' 

Cherry  and  Slae^  st.  14. 

S^  the  same  in  Ferguason's  Proverbs,  No.  323,  p.  13 — 

He  is  not  the  best  wright  that  hews  maist  spoils,^ 

Fergusson,  Proverbs.  No.  343. 

Qnhil  the  spalis  and  the  sparkis  spedely  out  spramg.' 

Pinkerton*s  5.  P.  vol.  iii.  p.  94. 
Ihid.  108.    Kendal  Addressee,  p.  32 ;  Learmont,  p.  23. 
Holland,  in  liis  translation  of  Pliny,  vol.  ii.  p.  44,  spells 
the  'Word  spits,  and  spels  at  p.  149.     In  this  word  we  are 
w?posed  to'be  indebted  to  the  German  spalten,  to  cleave, 
V^*  (itself  a  derivative  from  the  same  theme),  or  shave 
^-    The  word  ^ilt,  a  more  obvious,  because  more  im- 
■^iate  derivative  of  spalten)  has  also  still  a  provincial  • 
wwtenoe  among  us.     See  it  in  the  list  of  Suffolk  words  I 
« tUe  Ifut.  of  Haicstetly  p.  173,  Bibl.  Topopr.  vol.  v.,  and  i 
y^  in  Grose's  Provincial  Diet,  spelled  spolt.    He  says  ' 
^"  a  Norfolk  term,  and  signifies  wood  grown  brittle  , 
U'JJ'gli  dryness.     But  the  definition  would  have  been 
J**f^the  sense  of  the  original,  and  not  less  faithful, 
J|~  it  been  said  that  it  was  such  wood  as  would  easily 
JH  or  was  apt  to  split,  whether  from  drj*ness  or  any 
JJJj^  cause.    In  Sweden  alone  they  have  formed  a  noun 
.    v™^i*Tetttonic  spalten,  resembling  the  Northern  spaii, 
^x.  S^'o/,  segmentum,  lamina;  and  a  small  portion  of  a 
***"j8ttch  as  we  might  call  a  slipe,  is  there  also  called  a 
J'™'  Analogous  to  this  spail,  and  of  the  same  family, 
^rt?^  *  ^^  limher  piece  of  wood.    ...    In  many 
^J^''^  .Scotland  ip/i7  pease  are  on  the  same  principle 


We*  Baby,  Liverpool. 


■J.  Eliot  IIodgkin'. 


"Not  lost,  but  gone  before"  (4^  S.  v. 
passim :  viii.  34,  99,  426.) — K  the  discussion  of 
this  passage  is  not  quite  exhausted,  I  think  I  maj 
add  a  testimony  to  the  use  of  the  phrase  prior  to 
Keble's  Christian  Year^  from  an  epitaph  upon  a 
tablet  on  the  walls  of  the  nave  of  the  church  in 
this  village. 
The  inscription  runs  as  follows: — 

*'  Near  this  place  lieth  the  body  of 

William  Wilks, 

Who  departed  this  life  May  12th,  1803, 

Ageil  42  Yeara. 

"  In  perfect  health  I  went  from  homo. 
Not  thinking  that  my  glass  was  run. 
The  earth  is  nothinjr,  heaven  is  all, 
Death  has  not  hurt  me  by  my  fall. 
Dear  friends,  pray  weep  for  me  no  more» 
/  am  not  lost,  but  gone  before. 
All  flowers  grow,  but  fade  away. 
More  sudden  death  does  life  decav." 

R.  H.  A.  B. 
Satton-under-Brailes  Rectory. 

'*  Great  Griefs  are  silent  "  (4**»  S.  viii. 
passim ;  ix.23.) — I  recollect  reading  the  following 
lines  in  &  lady's  album  some  fifty  years  ago. 
Some  of  jour  readers  may  know  whence  they 
came : — 

**  Passions  are  likened  best  to  floods  and  streams — 
The  shallow  murmur,  but  the  deep  are  dumb." 

CnAS.  B.  1).  Beihune. 

Balfour,  Markinch,  N.B. 

[Sir  Walter  Raleigh,  «  The  Silent  Lover."] 

For  a  modern  example  of  this  sentiment,  vide 
"The  Garden  of  Florence"  by  John  Hamilton 
Reynolds : — 

"  Sternest  sorrow  ruffles  not  the  mind." 

James  Henry  Dixon. 

"Progress'":  "Trafalgar'':  "Dunsinane" 
(4»'»  S.  viii.  Sm  J  ix.  20.)— I  ask  to  be  allowed  a 
word  with  your  correspondent  S.,  who,  in  com- 
menting on  theYerh proffresSf  introduces  the  proper 
names  Trafalgar  and  Dunsinane.  As  to  the  former 
of  these  two,  it  is  nearly  twenty  years  since  I  ven- 
tilated its  accentuation  in  your  columns  (1"  S.  vi. 
362) ;  and  about  six  years  ago  (3^^  S.  ix.  297)  the 
subject  was  again  mooted,  apparently  in  ignorance 
of  its  having  been  already  discassed.  To  the  in- 
formation thus  collected  in  your  pages  I  must 
biieflv  refer  S.,  who  will  see  that  Byron,  in  his 
"  spoils  of  Trafalgar,"  neither  fell  into  "  a  false- 
pronunciation,"  nor  used  *'  a  poetical  license."  I 
would  especially  call  his  attention  to  the  con- 
cluding paragraph  of  Mr.  C.  II.  Cooper's  con- 
tribution at  1'^  S.  vi.  438. 

Nor  is  S.  more  happy  in  his  allusion  to  Shake- 
speare's Dunsinane.  He  says,  "  after  *  Birnam 
Wood  shall  march  to  Dunsinane '  (which  is  cor- 
rect), we  have  *  high  Dunsinane  hill.' "  Now  here 
are  two  errors :  (1.)  to  be  acQurate,  "  Dunsinane 
hill "  occurs  in  Act  IV.  Sc.  1,  and  comes  before, 
not  after,  all   the  other  passages   (in  Act   V.) 


104 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


14^  &  IX.  Fkb.  3,  *Zf  . 


where  the  name  is  found.  This  is  a  small  matter, 
but  (2)  the  accent  on  the  final  syllable  is  notf  as 
he  says,  correct,  if  we  are  to  take  tlie  local  pro- 
nunciation— and  on  what  else  can  we  relv  ? — we 
must  place  the  accent  on  the  penultimate.  In 
fact  Snakspenre  was  right  in  his  iirst  guess  as  to 
the  quantity. 

I  know  the  place  well,  and  hardly  a  week  passes 
without  my  directing  a  letter  thither,  which  I  do 


"  Like  the  Wamall  Man*s  Goose  "  (4^  S. 
ix.  35.) — That  "a  goose,  is  a  very  silly  \m^  too 
nmch  for  one  but  not  enough  for  two,"  ia  scamlj 
a  local  saying.  I  have  heard  it  in  several  widely 
separated  parts  of  England.  Nor  is  the  credit  of 
it  always  given  to  Walsall.  Tewkesbury,  at  leasl^ 
has  a  claim  on  it.  Wx.  P]BNeBLLT. 

'.      The  Lkxinotox  Papers  (4'"  S.  ix.  36.)— The 
I  following  is  from  Shatye's  Peerage,  published  by 


the  classic  spot,  he  had  better  surrender  his  vi^^w 
of  what  is  correct,  and  adopt  min*3,  or  ho  may 
meet  with  diftioulty.  "W.  T.  M. 

ShinOcId  Grove. 


Council  of  Ephksus  (4*'»  S.  ix.  7o.)  —  In  i 
answer  to  G.  D.  W.  ().  see  Lectures  on  the  J'Jdstmi  \ 
Church  (Lecture  IV.),  and  an  article  on  the  | 
"  Council  of  Constantinople "  in  the  Quarterly  i 
Hevieio  about  five  vcars  ago.  A.  P.  S. 

"0:^ct:  IX  the  Stlexce,'*  etc.  (4***  S.  viii.  528.) 
These  lines  are  undouhtodly  the  opening  verse  of  i 
a  hymn,  to  b^  found  in  several  collections,  e.  </. 
in  Montgomery's  ChriMian  PM/iuisf,  p.  (j'2.  They 
are  not  identical,  doubtless  of  the  same  hymn. 
The  hymn  begins  — 

"  In  Israel's  fane  by  silent  night.'* 

o.  o.  n. 

Words  similar  to,  though  not  identical  with, 
these  will  be  found  at  the  beginning  of  No.  xxxii. 
oi  Easy  Hymns  for  National  SfJwols,  published  by 
the  Christian  Knowled";e  Societv.     T.  \V.  Webtj. 

RosEMAiiY  (4**'  S.  viii.  /3o;^i.)— There  must  be 
some  mistake  in  the  article  signed  Tiirs.  The 
rosemary  is  not  the  liosa  spinosinsima — a  rose  that 
has  been  fully  discussed  in  "  N.  &  (^."  The  rose- 
mary has  nothing  to  do  with  the  rose,  or,  as  some 
think,  with  the  Virgin  Mary.     Tlie  Latin  name 


descended  firomtiN 

barons  by  tenure^  Ump, 

K.  John,  yrvLA  di.stini^ui.shetl  for  hiH  loyalty  to  K.  Chariei  lit 

and  for  his  servici'S  wn<)  created,  1G45,  Baron  LeaEingCWf 

j  of  Aram.  oo.  Nott*.     He  died  10G8. 

I      "  Robert,  second  Damn  Lexington,  son  and  heir,  «ii 

I  eminent  as  a  diplomatist  at  the  Courts  of  Vienna  n^ 

I  Madrid,  and  at  tlie  Treaty  of  Ryswick.     He  die^i  1723," 

Chables  Natlob. 


Cheap  Bookcases  (4**»  S.  ix.  37.)— Iron  fnxa» 
for  bookcases  can  be  purchased  at  the  Eagta 
Foundry,  Oxford ;  but  I  should  hesitate  to  recom- 
mend them — at  all  events  for  private  libraries. 

H.  FiSHWICK. 

T>:RTrARu;s  (4''»  S.  viii.  167,  216,  428,  488.)-I 
am  sorry  that  ¥.  C.  H.  should  be  hurt  at  the  ton* 
of  my  reply,  but  I  submit  that  his  answer  to 
Pelagius  s  query  was  by  no  means  correct  Hi> 
further  assertion  that  the  third  Order  of  St 
Francis  *'  is  hardly  known  and  rarely  spoken  of 
n3  tli(»  (^rd«T  of  Penance,  is  certainly  quite  incof-. 
rcct ;  for  that  is  the  desi^iaticm  used,  not  only  m 
the  form  of  admission  of  persons  into  the  oroeff 
but  also  in  every  document  and  work  thwBto 
relating:  from  the  time  of  its  institution  down  to' 
this  present  date — at  least  that  I  have  evarcoB* 
across.  Here  and  in  France  the  order  is  alwij* 
entitled  **  TOrdro  de  la  Penitence";  and  in  iiUtM 
I'lifjlish  works  I  pos«iss,  commencinpr  with  Fatli^ 
William  Stanoy's  Treatise  of  the  Third  Oribrtf 

J    ^...  ..      ^ ,  iSaint  Francis  commonli  cnUal  the  Order  of  Pat^^i 

is  Eos  jnarinns,  i.  e.  st?a  dew ;  and  it  is  so  called     published  at  l)oway  in  1017,  and  ending  with  Wj 


because  the  under  part  of  the  leaves  is  white,  as 
if  splashed  with  the  spray  of  the  ocean. 

A  MuRiTniAX. 

Sir  Adam  Pesrall  (4'**  S.  ix.  14)  was  pm>at- 
grandsou  and  heir,  it  is  presumed,  of  Sir  Adam 
Peahall,  who  was  shf^riif  (an  officer  in  tho?e  days 
of  great  authority)  of  Staffordshire  15  Fdw.  IIL, 
and  who  made  a  jrreat  accossion  to  his  optate  bv 
marruijre  with  two  heirea^es,  the  daughttTS  of 
John  Weston,  Lord  of  Weston  Lizard,  co.  Salop, 
and  John  de  Caverswall  of  1  bishop's  Oflley,  same 
county.  In  Eyton's  Antiqaitit's  of  Shropshire  the 
name  frequently  occurs,  and  souk*  account  of  Sir 
Adam  is  given  in  ICrdeswick's  Survey  of  Stafford- 
shire by  Harwood,  p.  liU  rf  sp^f.  His  p^di^ree 
will  be  found  in  Burke's  K.vtimt'  nntJ  I)ormant 
Baronetcies,  p.  4W.  II.  M.  Vaxk. 

Eaton  Place,  S.\V. 


Maminl^  published'  by  Messrs.  Bums  &  Limbjrt 
in  IHo?,  it  is  called  the  Order  of  Penance.  I  vi* 
also  to  add  here  that  Alban  Butler's  Btateni*i*» 
that  St.  Frant-ifT  left  the  order  only  a  caA^ 
lernify,  and  not  a  religious  order,  is  a  mere  *" 
sorlion,  the  oxjictness  of  which  is  by  no  xDt^ 
proved.  W.  H.  James  Weai* 

ljru;j;c.«. 

Palesthixa  (4«»'  S.  viii.  402,  618.)— The  p^ 
chant  in  the  (iraduale,  Vesperale,  and  Dinr*^ 
published  by  Ilauicq  ait  Mechlin,  diflfers  OODB^ 
ably  from  that  in  the  mediasval  manuscripta fif" 
mei'ly,  and  even  now,  in  use  in  some  churcltf> '^ 
the  Low  Countries  and  in  Germany.    The  «U^ 
tions  were  adopted  from  manuscripts  copied  '*■ 
Home  by,  or  rather  for,  the  late  Carainal  StoidJ** 
and  said  to  bo  by  l^alestrina,  and  to  embody  t^^ 
musician's  ideas  for  the  reformatioii  of  the  ^fif^ 


t.  3,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


105 


belieTe,  the  editors  went  even  fiir- 
mftnuscript.   Their  theory  was,  that 

become  corrupted  in  the  course  of 
ions,  and,  I  believe,  they  claim  to 
it  back  to  its  original  purity.  The 
humble  opinion,  is,  that  thoy  have 
its,  in  the  hymn.s  especially,  which 
d  spirit  of  those  in  the  older  manu- 

modern  Mechlin  use  has  not  been 
y  other  diocese  in  Beljriura. 

W.  H.  Jamks  We  ale. 

gk;  VL  Hint  (4***  S,  viii.  51  *] ;  ix.  45.) 

ndent  is  late  with  his  sugfj^estiou  as 

on  of  the  mother's   maiden   name 

»f  the   father.     This  was  made  bv 

[?n  vears  a<rn  in  vour  columns  (2"** 

I  approved  by  the  lati;  M.  A.  Lower 

21  »0,    where    that   great   authority 

as  already  made  by  himself  years 

his  EiiglUh  Surnames:  and  there  it 

in  a  notM,  vol.  i.  p.  172,  3rd  edition. 

re.  W.  T.  M. 

V-^  S.   ix.  .''>7.)— In  the  Glossnrif  of 

T(rms,  latelv  edited  bv  the    llev. 

,   the    name    of    the    stufl'    called 

said  to  have  come  from  its  havinj; 

T  manufactured  at  I5aldpfk  or  Babv- 

herwise   called    **  Baldequin  "   and 

and   from  its   being   Uv«ed    for  the 

le  canopy  carried  over  the  Bles.sed 

processions,  the  canopy  itself  camo 

Baldechinum,'*  as  found  in  all  books 

eremonial.  F.  C  IF. 

•rites  th.'il  a  note  on  tliis  subjoct  will  be 
t  voluino  of  Col.  Vnie's  J/arco  Polo.~^ 

.F  r.icnARD  I.  (4^"  8.  ix.  :18.)— A 
itive  may  be  found  in  C.  Knight's 
n/  of  En(/hiu(1j  published  bv  Hrad- 
ms,*lS.5(3,  i.  pp.  :}11>,  :)20.'  Some 
•ticular.-J  are  also  given  in  C.  Selby's 
yncmhcred  in  the  Ilistonj  of  Emjlandj 
Jarton  and  Co.,  pp.  05,  GO. 

CUARLES  NaYLOR. 

MiLY  (4^*'  S.  ix.  38.)— C.  L.  W.  C. 
oot-noto  of  Ookcr's  edition  (1853) 
ife  of  Dr.  John.^on,  viii.  p.  145,  a 
~>f  the  burning  of  Cowdray,  and  the 
he  two  sons  of  Mr.  Poyntz,  which 
to  have  occurred  on  July  7,  1815. 

r.  K. 

(4**^  S.  viii.  pamm.) — A  much 
e  than  anv  ^iven  bv  vour  con'e- 
irs  in  the  inscription  of  the  dial  at 
?h,  Yorkshire,  which  informs  us  that 
)r' s  davs  Orm  rebuilt  the  church : 

•   Pi:S   JVA.  TOnnocAN    T   TOFArAN." 

was   all  tobroken    &.  tofallen.'* 
fery  much  to  the  purpose  in  refer- 


i  ence  to  Mr.  Skkat's  undoubtedly  correct  view  as 
to  the  origin  of  the  phrase.  J.  T.  F. 


NOTES  ON  BOOKS.  FTC. 

A  Dictionary  of  Englhh  Etymology.  By  Hensleigh 
Wedgwood,  M.A.,  kite  Fellow  of  Chr.  Coll.,  Cam. 
Second  Edition^  thoroughly  revised  and  corrected  by  the 
Author^  and  extended  to  the  C'asnical  Hitots  of  the 
lAtmjunge,  With  an  latrinhiction  on  the  Formation  of 
Language.     Parts  1.  and  J  I.     (TrUbncr  &  Co.) 

In  the  ten  or  twelve  years  which  have  elapsed  since 
the  lirst  apij^arance  of  this  important  contribution  to  our 
knowledge  of  Knj^:lish  etymol(»gy,  not  only  has  that 
branch  of  study  made  considerable  progress,  but  the  pub- 
lication of  the  earlier  monuments  of  our  language  iias 
bi'cn  carried  on  to  a  remarkable  extent.  Besi<le8  this, 
the  dictionary  itself  has  been  made  the  subject  of  special 
annotation  and  criticism,  ns  by  Mr.  George  P.  Marslv  in 
the  Amorican  edition  of  the  lirst  volume,  and  by  E.  MUl- 
Icr  in  his  Etymological  Dictionary  (Kiithen,  18G5-7),  and 
by  various  writers  in  numerous  periodicals.  In  preparing 
this  new  edition,  Mr.  Wedgwood  has  availed  himself  of 
those  various  aids;  and  wherever  he  has  seen  reason  to 
alter  the  etymology  of  a  word  from  that  originriUy  given, 
such  word  is  marked  with  an  asterisk.  While  in  addi- 
tion, in  deference  to  the  judgment  of  respected  friends, 
the  et\nTiol(.igy  of  words  of  classic  derivation,  generally 
omitted  in  the  lirst  edition,  has  lieen  concisely  inserted  in 
the  present  work.  The  book  is  beautifully  printed  in 
double  columns,  and  will  be  oomplcte<l  in  live  parts, 
which  will  form  a  hand<<ome  volume ;  and  as  the  whole 
()f  the  copy  is  ready  for  the  press,  the  book  will  be  com- 
]>lot  d  by  April  of  the  present  year.  We  shall  look  witii 
grt-at  interest  for  such  completion  and  for  the  introduc- 
tion, which  is  to  contain  the  author's  views  on  the 
formation  of  language. 

Pictures  by  Daniel  Maclise,  with  Descriptions  and  a 
fiiographical  Sketch  of  the  Painter  by  James  Datlbme. 
(Virtue  &  Co.) 

We  some  time  since  calletl  attention  to  a  handsome 
volume  publi>lM'<l  by  Messrs.  Virtue,  containing  a  series 
of  engravings  frcmi  the  best  pictun\s  by  Charles  Leslie, 
Tiie  work  btfore  us  is  a  companion,  and  a  very  fit- 
ting one,  coiitaining  as  it  dm's  eleven  engravings  from 
the  following  pictures  by  Daniel  Maclise  —  Salvator 
Kosa  and  the  Picture-Dealer;  A  Scene  from  Midas; 
Mil  Bias  at  Pennatlor;  A  Scene  from  Twelfth  Night; 
Tiie  ]May  Scene  in  Hamlet;  The  Origin  of  the  Harp; 
The  Nvlnph  of  the  Wati-rfall ;  Undine;  Orlando  about 
to  Wrestle  with  Charles,  the  Duke's  Wrestler;  The 
Ballad  Singer;  and  lastly,  the  W^arrior's  Cradle.  The 
engravings  are  introduced  by  a  biographical  sketch  of  the 
arti-l's  life,  and  accompanied  by  critical  and  illustrative 
descriptions  from  the  pen  of  Mr.  Daffome;  the  whole 
forming  a  handsome  volume  which  cannot  be  otherwise 
than  welcome  to  the  numerous  admirers  of  Daniel 
Maclise. 

Alphabetical  Dictionary  of  Coats  of  Arms  belonging  to 
Eumilies  in  (ireat  Jtritain  and  Ireland,  forming  an 
extensive  Ordinary  of  British  Armorials  vpon  an  en- 
tireli/  \ettf  Plan,  By  the  late  John  W.  Papworth, 
F.R!r.B.A.,  Ac.  Edited,  fn^m  p.  606,  fty  Alfred  W. 
Morant,  Esq.,  F.S.A.,  &c  Part  XV. 
Not  only  the  original  subscribers  to  this  important 
heraldic  work,  but  all  Students  of  Heraldry  and  Britinh 
Family  History,  will  rejoice  to  see  that  the  labours  of 


106 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


i'k*^  &  IX.  Feb.  8, 71 


the  late  Mr.  Papworth  are  not  to  be  left  in  an  imperfect 
and  consequently  unsatisfactory  state,  but  that;  with  the 
assistance  of  Air.  Morant,  the  book  is  to  be  completed, 
(the  whole  of  the  MS.  having  been  prepared  for  press),  as 
early  as  possible  with  due  regard  to  careful  revision. 
For'the  benefit  of  such  of  our  readers  as  may  be  desirous 
of  getting  prospectuses  and  information  respecting  it,  we 
may  state  that  communications  witli  regard  to  these  should 
be  addressed  to  Mr.  Wyatt  Papworth,  13,  Hart  Street, 
Bloomsbury  Square. 

Debrett*8  lUtntratcd  Peerage  and  Titles  of  Courtesy  of 
the  United  Kingdom  of  Grait  Britain  and  Ireland;  to 
which  is  added  much  Information  respecting  the  imme- 
diate Family  Connectittns  of  the  Peers.  Under  direct 
Personal  Revision  and  Correction,    (Dean  &.  Son.) 

Di'hrett*s  Illustrated  Baronetage^  with  the  Knightage  of 
the  United  Kingdom  of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland ;  to 
which  is  added  much  information  respecting  the  imme- 
tliate  Family  Connections  of  the  Baronets.  Under 
direct  Personal  Revision  and  Correction.  (Dean  & 
Son.) 

Debrett,  for  which  its  editor  claims  the  merit  of  being 
^par  excellence  the  cheapest  and  most  popular  book  of 
its  class,"  has  n'.rtainly  the  additional  one  of  being 
very  compact  and  ver}'  complete.  The  difiioultics  with 
which  the  editors  of  ])ublications  of  this  nature  have  to 
contend  in  their  endeavours  to  record  the  facts  of  family 
history  are  curiously  illustrated  in  the  Baronetage  before 
us,  in  the  shape  of  a  letter  threatening  the  editor  with 
an  action  at  law  in  ai-^  he  does  not  omit  a  certain  fact, 
which  we  believe  i.s  mill  sub  J udice. 

Col.  Yule's  **  Marco  Pou)." — A  statement,  copied 
from  the  Civil  Seroice  Gazette^  has  appeared  in  several 
papers,  that  the  article  in  the  last  Quarterly  Review  on 
Col.  Yule's  Marco  Polo  was  written  by  Sir  Henry  Raw- 
linson,  K.C.B.,  whereas  it  is  from  the  pen  of  Mr.  R.  H. 
Major,  F.S.A.,  Keeper  of  the  Maps  and  Charta  in  the 
British  Museum. 

The  litcrar}'  brotherhood  will  be  glad  to  learn  that  the 
Eleventh  Annual  Supplement  to  the  Catalogue  of  the 
Library  of  the  Corporation  of  London  has  just  been  issued. 


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fiatitti  ta  CorreiCiiatitrentir. 

Owing  to  the  number  of  Replies  waiting  for 
toe  are  compelled  to  curtail  our  Notes  on  Booka^  ^ 

Folk  Lorb  includes  Popular  Superttition,  BJUt, 
Legends^  and  generally^  as  the  name  implies^  the  Lore  of 
the  People.  If  will  be  seen  from  this  that  we  cannot  pot- 
sihly  give  a  list  of  books  upon  the  subject,  JSn^ln^ 
France^  and  Germany  may  each  boast  of  a*  many  as  modi 
fill  a  small  library, 

C.  C. — An  inquiry  after  those  worthies  **  The  Tkm 
Tailors  of  Tooley  Street"  has  been  twice  made  in  "N.tQ." 
3<-<i  S.  X.  -2Gli ;  4t>>  S.  iv.  255,  but  without  elieiting  eM§ 

reply. 

Inqitirkk  (Edinbur^^h.) — The  remark  ofUndt  TUy 
nt  his  visit  to  a  sick  brother  officer,  "Before  the  wheel  emM 
turn  at  the  cistern^*'  appears  to  be  an  altution  to  Eedh 

siastes^  xii.  C. 

Thomas  Uatcliffb. — The  custom  of  throwing  Aehsei 
has  been  noticed  in  *•  N.  &  Q."  2»*»  S.  iv.  486  ;  v.  94,  W. 

Makko(^hkiii. — For  the  maxims  of  the  Schoel  •/ 
Salerno  consult  the  Penny  Cvclopiedia,  xx.  S46,  of 
*"  N.  &  Q."  3rd  s.  i.  53.  Sir  Alex.  Croke  edited  an  eOtm 
of  tJie  Uegimen  Sanitatis  Salernitaaum,  Oxford,  1880. 

Quoxi>AM. — For  the  well-known  nursery  tale  of^'TI* 
Three  Wise  Men  of  Gotham  "  we  must  refer  our  tantr 
spondent  to  Mr.  Ilalliweirs  edition  of  The  Merry  Takiof 
the  Wi^^e  Men  of  Gotham  (Lond.  1840),  andto^'Jif.  kQ,' 
1«»  S.  ii.  47G,  520. 

Hkubkrt  RANDOLPn. —  The  passage  occurs  in  SheAt' 
speare.  All's  Well  that  Ends  Well,  Act  J.  So.  3,  when  Ik 
Clown  says  :  "  Though  honesty  he  no  puritan,  yet  ft  will 
do  no  hurt ;  it  will  wear  the  surplice  of  humility  overtli 
black  gown  of  a  big  heart," 

John  Pickford. — Eques  Auratus  is  a  knight  baddtft 
called  auratus,  or  gdtj  because  anciently  none  but  ka^^ 
might  gild  or  beautify  their  armour  with  gold.  In  kntthi^ 
term  is  seldom  used  ;  but  instead  of  it  milea^  and  lOMti*' 
chtvalier. 

r>.  C.—Consult  the  article  ''Careuf''  in /Vitice't  WoitU* 
of  Devon,  edit.  1810,  4to,  the  articles  **Carew**  «•!*• 
Imperial  I)ictionarv  of  l.-niversal  Biography,  Eduiht/^ 
vol.  i.,  and  "  X.  &  Q."  2"**  S.  vi.  3J)5,  439. 

Thus. — There  is  a  portrait  of  poor  Henry  ^^^It**^ 
cian  and  poet,  painted  by  (Vorsdale  {the  eudtrdd 
Junmy .'),  and  engraved  by  Fubcr  in  1729,  arAtcA  M 
heroine  rare. 

■      Xr^Jio. — J.  T.  Smith's  promised  Anecdotic  Hiatwy* 
!  St.  Paul's,  Covent  Gnrdyn,  was  never  publithed. 

A>iTiyUAuiAN. —  Vourfirnt,  query  had  come  to  handt^ 
the  one  since  received  will  be  substituted  for  it.  0^ 
rc'idt-rs  generally  must  not  supftose  that  their  papers  •'* 
overlooked  simply  because,  they  da  not  make  an  immeS^ 
appearance  in  the  columns  of  "  N.  &  Q." 

Ij:t:ata. — l*^  S.  ix.  p.  78,  col.  ii.  line  3  from  bottom, fif 
*•  on  •'  read  "after";  p.  79,  col.  i.  line  2,  and  in  note^  fi^ 
"  IJorville"  read  '*  Bosville" ;  line  9,  for  «*  appointmaDtB 
rtdtl  "  appointment  "  ;  p.  79.  col.  ii.  line  8  from  botio*^* 
iiiid  tlir.m-:hout  the  article, />r  "Teat"  read  »*Pe«t"^ 
and  p.  80,  col.  i.  line  21,  for  »♦  Gent,  Mag,  1837,  iii**  w^ 
"  Gant.  Mag.  1837,  viii.*' 

We  be-j  leave  to  Rtate  that  we  decline  to  retani  commmiiettio^ 
vrhi-h.tor  any  rea«on,  we  do  not  print;  and  to  thia  rule  wven  i 
vzception. 

All  communication*  nhould  be  addreawd  to  the  Editor  at  tlif< 
U.  Wellington  Street,  W.C. 

To  all  eommunication^  ahould  bo  afflxed  the  iimim  and  eddi 
the  ^udor,  not  uuoviisarily  for  iiublioatioo,  bat  u afsamUM  Oil 
;   fUUL. 

1 


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,ONDON,  SATVRDATy  FEBRUARY  10,  1872. 


CONTENTS.— No  215. 
I : -^  Lopgcvitv  Gossip.  Ac.  107  — Chaucer  R  stnrcfl, 

-  Lord  Brougham  and  Lit»'i-at\ir(».  Ill  —  Tho  Onlor 
B  Black  Eagl«»,  lb.—  The  Soiicrs  of  Switwrland,  112  — 
:h  Money  —  New  Dolls  at  Ashton-under-Ly  !»♦• — Wool- 
Dockyard  —  Epitaph  in  Great  Wiihraham  Clnirch  — 
Actor  of  ••  Hamlet "  -  Vyse's  "  Anthm<  tic,"  115. 

IBS:  —  Rmla  of  Oliver  Cromwell,  llfl -  The  Arnolds 
•.  R.  H.  Black  and  James  Black  —  Jame.*<  Hay,  Earl  of 
■to  — Cherries  and  the  Holy  Family  — Clan  Tartan  — 
^^ncia  Drake— Deer  used  in  Sacriflc*  — Sir  Philip 
cis  — "God  in  the  (^rncration  of  the  Rijchteous"  — 
on's  "New  View  of  London "— Holy  llible-  Hali- 
Priory  —  Illuminatinar  —  Langnedoc  —  LinBruistic 
Iren  — Lundy  Island,  "  Herculis  Insula"  —  Mr>*.  A. 
ion  —  B«v.  Mr.  Moultrie  —  Pers«»cution  of  the  Heathen 
To  Play  Hell  and  Tommy"  — Provincialisms  —  Pul- 

—  Sir  James  Stansfleld  —  **  As  Straight  as  a  Die"  — 
—  Unicorns  —  Major  John  Wade,  circa  KkJI,  lid. 

IBS :  -  Ebony  Portrait  of  TiOuis  XVI. :  Walter  Blake 
rao,  120  —  Etymology  ofr'Harrowgate."  121  —  The 

of  a  Book.  123  — Translations  of  the  Talmud,  123  — 
)leon  on  Board  the  Northumberland,  Jh.  —  White 

FeatherleM.  Ac^.  125— Width  of  Church  Naves  — 
•  Children  at  a  Birth  —  Queen  M&ry  —  Printed  Matter 
•d  —  Cure  for  Rheumatism  —  Haro  —  A»i  Old  Song  in 
wt  at  Beef  — Roman  Villa  at  Northleiuh  —  Hhako- 
riana  —  Arms  of  Prince  Rupert  —  "  Th*3  Mistletoe 
^h  "  —  ••  Join  Issue  "  —  "  Black  "  or  "  Bleak  Bnrn»ley  '* 
le  Marquis  d«*  Montcalm  —  HeronK)r  Heme  —  Gybbon 
bury  —  Cagots  —  Jane  Christian:  a  Manx  Eve  — 
stening  Bit :  the  Bairn's  Piece,  Ac.,  126. 

on  Books.  Ac. 


LONGEVITY  GOSSIP. 
'.ssoR  Owen's  views — tiiom.vs  geeran — uiciiard 

PUP.3ER — RECKNT   CASES,   ETC. 

ly  those  who  know  tl;e  amount  of  ill-natured 
lent  and  good-natured  quizzing  to  which  I 
been  subjected  for  daring  to  exercise  a  little 
aon  sense  on  the  subject  of  Human  Longevity 
sstimate  the  gratification  with  which  I  have 
seen  from  Fraser's  Magazine  of  February 
the  opinions  which  I  have  so  long  main- 
d  are  shared  by  no  less  eminent  an  authority 
Professor  Owen. 

)w  much  the  truth  for  which  I  have  been 
mding  will  be  advanced  by  the  advocacy  of 
eminent  man  of  science  it  is  needless  to  sug- 

le  terms  in  which  Professor  Owen's  kindness 
I  him  to  speak  of  my  small  investigations  of 
s  of  alleged  centenarianism  makes  it  difficult 
me  to  refer  to  his  article  in  Fraser,  but  so 
Drtant  do  I  consider  it  that  the  opinions  of  this 
Qent  physiologist  on  the  question  of  the 
ation  of  Human  Life  should  be  known,  that,, 
ill  rbks  of  the  sarcasm  to  which  I  may  lay 
lelf  open,  I  entreat  all  who  desire  to  know  the 
h.  to  study  his  article  on  Longevity.  The 
festor's  paper  owes  its  ori^  to  a  passage  in 
'  9pwker's  Commentary,  written  by  tne  Bishop 
Qy,  who  says  in  a  note  on  the  fifth  chapter  of 


Genesis:  "As  to  the  extreme  longevity  of  the 
patriarchs,  it  is  observable  that  some  eminent 
physiologists  have  thought  this  not  impossible." 

The  article  in  Fraser  is  a  strong  protest  against 
the  accuracy  of  this  statement.  The  theologian 
and  physiologist  are  altogether  at  issue.  With  the 
main  point  m  dispute  I  ue^d  not  trouble  your 
readers;  but  I  do  desire  to  bring  before  them 
some  of  the  important  opinions  expressed  by  Pro- 
fessor Owen  on  the  subject  ^'  of  the  term  of  life  to 
which  mankind  would  attain  if  not  cut  oft'  by 
injury  or  disease." 

"Xow,  I  beg  the  reader's  special  attention  to 
what  Professor  Owen  says  on  this  point : — 

"  The  conclnsions  of  Professor  Flourcns  *  that,  in  the 
absence  of  all  causes  of  disease,  and  under  all  conditions 
favourable  to  health  and  life,  man  might  8ur\ive  as  long 
after  the  procreative  period — ending,  saj'  at  sevent}',  in 
the  male — as  he  had  lived  to  acquire  maturity*  and  com  - 
pletion  of  ossification,  say  thirty  years,  are  not  unphysio- 
logical.*  Only,  under  the  circumstances  under  which  the 
battle  of  lifiB  is  fought,  the  possible  term  of  one  hundred 
3'ears  inferred  bv  Flourens,  as  by  Buffon,  is  a  rare  excep- 
tion.'* 

After  this  declaration,  that  "  the  possible  term 
of  one  hundred  years  is  a  rare  exception,"  the 
reader  will  not  be  surprised  to  learn  that  Professor 
Owen  treats  as  utterly  unworthy  of  credit  the  ages 
ascribed  to  the 'Countess  of  Desmond^  Henry 
Jenkins,  and  Old  Parr. 

And  here  I  must  be  permitted  to  refer  to  a 
letter  which  I  wrote  to  Tne  Times  last  September, 
in  which  I  contended  that  Flourens  and  others 
who  maintained  that  the  152  years  of  Thomas 
l*arr  were  accredited  by  the  testimony  of  Hai'vev 
were  not  justified  in  so  interpreting  Harvey  s 
statement ;  for  that  Harvey  does  not  bear  testimony 
to  Parr's  age,  but  simply  records  what  he  was 
told  about  it.  This  daring  scepticism  shocked 
some  of  my  friends.  But  what  says  Professor 
Owen  ?— 

"  Old  Parr's  152  years  are  more  confidently  adduced 
by  lovers  of  the  marvellous,  chadng  at  the  restraint  of 
scientific  laws,  on  the  authority  of  the  truly  eminent 
physiologist  who  dissected  him. 

"  But  Harvey  merely  gives  the  ago  reported  to  him 
by  the  friends  or  exhibitors  who  brought  the  '  old  maa 
marvellous '  to  London.  .  .  .  :  In  this  1  concur  with  Mr.  . 
Thorns." 

And  he  is  good  enough  to  add  that  he  agrees  in 
my  estimate  of  the  notes  cited  by  Haller  from  his 
Adversaria  of  the  thousand  cases  of  longaival  in- 
dividuals between  100  and  150. 

There  are  other  parts  of  the  Professor's  paper 
to  which  I  would  gladly  refer,  such  as  hie  caution 
against  too  hastily  Jumping  to  the  conclusion  that 
the  first  Richard  Koe  met  with  in  a  parish  re- 
gister is  the  Richard  Roe  of  which  the  inquirer 
IS  in  search  ;  and  especially  to  the  very  complete 
yet  very  simple  explanation  of  that  curious  phe- 
nomenon often  brought  forward  as  a  proof  of 
grdat  age — the  cutting  a  third  set  of  teeth  \  bat  I 


108 


NOTKS  AND  QUERIES. 


[1^  B.  IX.  Fu.  to.  It 


liave  slrend^  Iftid  it  under  very  henvj  contribu- 
tion, and  this  almost  witliouc  touchiop-  upon  its 
most  important  part— I  mean  tlie  jihyBicloificaJ.  . 
Questions  of  lonfreTity  lua;  be  treated  in  two 
'wajs — phy^iologicfilly  and  liiatoHcally.  To  the 
extent  of  my  small  ponera  I  have  for  some  time 
busied  myself  in  considering  it  iu  its  hiatorical 

ftofepaor  Owen  has  in  the  paper  to  which  I 
have  referred  bmuK'it  liia  great  ItnnwledBe  and 
long  experience  to  the  physiolog'y  of  the  question, 
and  I  earnestly  entreat  all  wlio  deaire  to  know 
the  truth  to  read  this  delightful  and  instructive 
easay  on  l^ongeTity. 

In  mnrhcd  contrast  Co  the  paper  to  which  1 
have  heen  referring  is  a  little  book  which  pro- 
fesses, iniT  (din,  to  be  nu  answer  to  Sir  Comowall 
Lewis.  Tt  is  a  new  edition  of  the  I-^fe  uf  Thuniai 
Gecran,  in   which  all  the  absurd 


utterly  fal^e,  are  repeated,  my  second  letter  being 
omillfd.  In  the  same  way,  a  charge  made  by  Dr. 
Massy  against  the  authorities  of  Chelsea  Hospital 
,  ia  teiieratcd,  although  a  parlion  of  General  Ilutt's 
letter,  pointing  out  that  l)r.  .Massy  had  been  mis- 
informed, is  inserted  ;  and  the  preci<nis  farni^ 
conclude"  with  a  hope  that  suHicient  funds  may 
be  raised  by  its  sale  to  enable  the  publisher  ''  to 
erect  a  stone  over  the  grave  of  the  worthy  old 
toldier."  The  good  sense  of  the  incumbent  of  the 
parish  where  Oeeran  is  buried  will,  I  trust,  prevent 
the  erection  of  this  monument  to  the  credulity  of 
his  dupes. 

I  am  indebti'd  to  this  ill-judged  publication, 
howevpr,  for  calling  my  attention  to  a  criticism 
printed  somewhere  between  November  and  the 
present  time  iu  The  Wilisaiid  Oloiivtutpr  Standard, 
on  my  scepticism  as  to  the  case  of  Iticliard  Purser. 

Itichard  I'urser's  is  a,  very  typical  case.  I  hare 
ft  portrait  of  the  old  fellow  taken  bv  "J.  Ellis, 
fl,  St.  I'hilip's  Terrace,  Cheltenham," 'and  on  the 
back  "f  which  is  written  "  Richard  Purser,  afre 
108,  14  Julv,  1804,"  whether  written  by  the  old 
man  himself  I  cannot  say.  I  mention  the  artist's 
name  in  ca-ie  any  reader  may  desire  tu   procure  a 

If  iha  man  who  sate  for  that  portrait  was  much 
Above  four  score,  he  was  indeed  a  very  remark- 
able man  !  He  lived  four  years  after  being  plio- 
tographod  :  and  dying  on  (tctober  12,  I'^lJS — not 
"  a  few  months  ago,''  aa  my  critic  says — the  goixl 
people  of  Clieltenlimii,  who  seem  to  bo  as  easily 


•  If  (hr>  rtnilcr  would  fomtwre  the  plmrijirmpli  of  i 
genuine  villi  that  of  a  ii)iiirious  conlennrinn,  li^t  hin 
procure  til*  r'anitftportrnitiif  Ur.  I.unjng,  token  bhidiiII 
aftrr  hpcnnipIi'leilhiiieniturrbyMr.  Baclisiiiin  Sndih.  o 
UUckbrath  I'ark,  and  I  will  anOertake  to  m.v  tliut  »urli  i 
coin parimn  will  hIiow  that  neither  Gcirin  nur  Purser  ba'I 
the  sliifbtert  claim  to  be  cwuidervd  r  .^<>— —i-o 


duped  a«  the  good  people  of  Brighton,  buried  liba 
with  this  inscription  on  his  coffin:  "RiOKAKV 
Pdbser,  mv-n  ISth  Octobbb,  186B,  askd  IIS 
TEAR  a." 

liut  what  evidence  is  there  of  all  this  f  and 
remember,  it  is  the  dutv  of  those  who  brin^  tof 
ward  caaes  of  abnormal  longevity  to  prtn*  timn, 
and  not  call  upon  the  doubters  to  disprove  thaB| 
and  moreover,  remember  tbut  in  proporlioD  uthB 
age  is  exceptional,  tlie  proof  ought  to  be  ezcep- 
tionally  clear  and  distinct,  and  free  fiom  pouibilitj 

Now  old  Purser's  assumed  nge  is  not  aapported 
by  one  scrap  of  documentary  evidence.  It  teW 
partly  on  his  own  assertion  that  he  recnllfCied 
his  motlier  taking  him  to  see  the  illuDiinalioH 
for  tba  coronation  of  G<'orge  HI.,  and  tbat  be 
was  working  in  the  Dockyard  at  Sfaeemeu  in 
1782,  when  the  Itoynl  (leorge  was  sunk;  and 
partly  on  the  recoUectiona  of  a  former  rector  of 
I  ICedroarlfy,  the  Rev.  .Tames  Commelioe,  wbo 
I  died  (nearly  thirty-live  vears  ago)  in  1837,  in  tke 
seventy-fourth  year  of  bis  age — not  aeventy-iiz, 
as  my  critic  states.  TheM  recollections  ate  giran 
on  the  authority  of  his  daughters  still  living;  bat 
with  every  confidence  in  the  truthliilneM  and  iD- 
tegrity  of  these  Indies,  memory  is  very  treacheniiii, 
and  such  testimony  is  not  sufficient,  in  the  ahaeiKe 
of  all  contemnorary  and  documentary  evidence,  to 
establish  sucn  an  exceptional  case  of  longevity  u 
112  years. 

The  accounts  of  Purser  vary  in  aeveni]  poillti^ 
but  all  agree  that  he  was  bom  at  RedmuIeT 
d'Abitot.  His  name  is  not,  however,  to  be  fbnna 
in  the  register  of  baptisms — some  eay  beoMue  be 
was  illegitimate.  But  I  doubt  this.  Tbe  aobiM 
"  bnsoborn,"  "  bastard,"  &c.  are  ao  freqnent  ID 
regi9tera,  that  I  doubt  if  "  illegitimacj "  enr 
deprived  children  of  the  pnvile^  of  uptim. 
Otners  say  because  the  register  is  imperfect — and 
ao  it  is ;  there  is  no  register  of  baptisms  for  1786- 
1780.  To  my  mind  it  is  much  more  probable 
that  Purser's  name  would  be  found  in  the  misriil{r 
leaf  which  contained  these  baptiama,  than  that  U 
lived  to  be  112. 

Exception  has  been  taken  to  my  statement  in 
my  letter  to  The  Timet  of  November  84,  that 
judging  from  his  photograph,  "Purser  looked 
much  nearer  eighty,  as  I  believe  be  was  " ;  bn^  . 
turning  to  my  memoranda  about  Purser,  I  find 
that  in  the  letter  from  Cheltenham  dated  Oct.  19; 
\em,  which  recorded  his  death  in  Tht  Timet,  tbe 
writer  anticipates  this  opinion  of  mine  ;  nay,  even 
goes  hevond  it,  for  he  says  the  portrait  "euifaitf 
a  peaceful  happy  expression  in  his  face,  not  looking 
more  than  tcvfnty  or  eighty  years  of  age." 

1  could  bring  forwmd  many  points  in  Piuaar'* 
history  which  call  for  explanation,  and  1  wish 
soma  of  tbe  believers  in  his  great  age  would  asoe^ 
tain  &6mhidaon^— Mud  to  belumseUsixty-thiMiD 


4*  d.  IX.  Feb.  10,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


109 


186S— when  and  where  his  father  was  married, 
for  the  register  might  state  his  age. 

Had  I  not  already  overtaxed  the  courtesy  of 
the  Key.  Charles  Longfield  hy  my  inquiries,  I 
ahould  like  to  know  also  whether  the  liedmarley 
register  of  marriages  contains  an  entry  of  the  mar- 
riage of  the  possible  father  and  mother  of  the  old 
man — somewhere  about  the  year  1780. 

But  as  mv  critic  mistakes  the  time  of  Purser's 
death  " a  few  months  ikgo^^  (it  was  October  1868), 
his  reputed  age,  which  was  112  and  not  111 — 
Mr.  C;ommeline*8  age,  which  was  seventy-four, 
not  seventy-six — says  ^'  that  Purser  and  that  gen- 
tleman must  have  been  about  the  same  age ;  for 
two  young  men  of  twenty-three  could  not  sup- 
pose one  another  to  be  of  the  same  age'*;  whereas 
l^urser  is  taid  to  have  been  bom  in  1750,  and 
Mr.  Commeline  was  bom  in  1703  (not  1700), 
seven  years  after;  and  moreover  admits  ''that  it 
is  impossible  to  say  what  Purser's  right  age  was^ 
but  it  must  have  bfen  within  one  or  two,  say  five 
years  at  the  outside,"  of  his  reputed  age — he  will, 
1  trust,  forgive  me  if  I  continue  in  my  unbelief. 

I  am  open  to  conviction ;  but  it  must  be  upon 
evidence,  and  nothing  worthy  of  being  so  called 
has  yet  been  brought  forward. 

The  more  cases  of  centenariAnism  which  I  ex- 
amine, the  more  I  am  convinced  of  the  caution 
with  which  statements  of  abnormal  longevity 
moat  be  received. 

Within  the  last  few  weeks  I  havtf  ascertained 
beyond  question  that  one  old  fellow,  said  to  be 
certainly  110,  but  believed  to  be  much  older,  and 
this  by  people  of  education  and  intelligence,  is 
really  between  eighty  and  ninety ;  that  another, 
supposed  to  have  died  at  105,  wanted  more  than 
fifteen  years  of  that  age;  that  a  third,  also  re- 
puted f05,  was  ninety-five ;  and  that  a  veteran, 
who  in  his  old  age  became  a  preacher,  and  used 
to  startle  his  hearers  by  describing  the  dreadful 
scenes  he  had  witnessed  at  Bunker  s  Hill,  did  not 
enlist  into  the  army  until  after  that  battle  had 
been  fought.  On  the  other  hand  I  have  got  most 
satisfactory  evidence  of  the  age  of  a  lady  now 
livinff  who  will  on  Sunday  (Feb.  11)  complete 
faer  lOlst  year. 

All  this  I  will  prove  in  due  season.  But 
enough  for  the  present.  While  writing  these 
notes,  two  or  three  fresh  cases  of  centenarianism 
have  been  brought  under  my  notice. 

Mr.  Richard  Burton,  of  Broom  Hill,  near  Dy- 
mock,  died  on  Jan.  4  at  the  reputed  age  of  105.- 
Can  any  reader  who  lives  in  tne  nei;rhbourhood 
•ay  on  what  this  supposition  is  founded  ? 

Mrs.  Purr,  of  Cnippenham,  died  in  January, 
Aged  ninety-eight.  It  was  ninety-six  years  since 
^He  wa.<9  baptized,  and  she  walked  to  chur*'h  for 
the  ceremony,  being,  she  believes,  between  five  or 
aix  years  old!!  Will  any  resident  at  Chippen- 
ham investigate  this  case;  and  kindly  inform  me 


if  the  old  lady  was  ever  photographed^  and  where 
her  photograph  may  be  purchased  ? 

I^t  me  add,  that  I  am  very  anxious  to  procure 
photographs  of  reputed  centenarians,  and  shall  feel 
personally  obliged  to  any  correspondent  who  will 
put  me  in  the  way  of  adding  to  the  small  collec- 
tion which  I  have  already  frrmed. 

William  J.  Thoms. 

40,  St.  George's  Square,  S.W. 


CHAUCER  RESTORED.— No.  Ill, 

1.  I  claim  the  "Black  Knight "  for  Chaucer  on 
the  ground  of  manifest  resemblance  in  title  and 
construction. 

AH  in  the  following  list  are  admitted  by  Mr. 

FURNIVALL,  >'iz. — 

(to  Pity, 
to  his  empty  purse. 

It  is  cruel  to  separate  blood  relations,  so  I  pro- 
pose to  add  to  this  list  also  **  The  Complaint  of 
the  Black  Knicht" 

It  is  a  regular  feature  in  some  of  these  minor 
poems  to  have  an  envoi f  or  special  personal  address 
appended.  Thus,  in  the  "  Complaint  to  Venus,*' 
we  find — 

**  Princes,  receiveM  this  complaining  in  gree.** 

In  the  "Ballad  of  the  Village  without  paint- 
ing," the  env'oi  commences — 

**  Princes,  I  pray  you,  of  your  gentlenen 
Let  not  this  raan  and  me  thus  cry  and  plain** ; 

and  in  the  "  Complaint  of  the  Black  Knight "  we 
have  this  very  similar  formula — 

"  Prir\,ce8s,  pleaaeM  it  to  your  benif^iity 
This  little  ditty  to  have  in  mind.'' 

This  remarkable  family  likeness  is  a  strong 
point  of  resemblance  that  could  not  be  imitated 
without  gross  plagiarism,  so  I  claim  the  "  Black 
Knight  '*  for  Chaucer. 

2.  Another  feature  in  this  family  of  "Com- 
plaints "  is  this,  that  the  plaintiff  prepares  a  "  biil 
of  complaint,"  which  is  "  filed  "  or  presented  as  a 
petition — all  in  due  clerkly  form.  Thus,  in  the 
seventh  stanza  of  the  "Complaint  to  Pity,"  he 
writes — 

"  A  complaint  had  T  writtcnd  in  my  band, 
To  have  put  to  Pity  as  a  bill.** 

In  Chaucer's  "  Dream,"  lines  928-9,  we  road — 

"And  to  this  Lord,  anon,  pre8ent 
I  A  bill,  wherein  whole  her  intent 

1  Was  written." 

Also  in  line  0(10— 

*•  And  a  full  answer  of  vour  bill.'* 

» 

3.  While  the  piece  called  '*  Chaucer's  Dream  '* 
is  found  to  be  connected  with  the  ncknowledgnd 
"  Complaint  to  Pity,"  by  this  incident  of  tho 
quasi  bill  in  Chancery  (from  bftlla)^  an  authenti- 
cated document  given  under  hand  and  tealf  it  i 


no 


KOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


i4«h  S.  IX.  FOL  U^  *71. 


aUo  connected  with  the  "Flower  and  the  Leaf 
by  the  following  passage : — 

**  I  you  requite  my  boistousness.'* 

Chnuccr^s  Dream,  1.  C4. 

Compare — 

**  Thy  rude  laiigungp,  full  boistonsly  unfold." 

Flower  and  the  Leaf, 

See  the  opening — 

"  \Vhcn  Flora  the  Queen  of  pleasance," 

and  compare  it  with — 

**  In  May,  when  Flora  the  fresh  lusty  queen." 

Complaint  of  the' Black  Knight. 

Again : — 

"  When  that  Phcobus  his  chair  of  gold  so  high 
Had  whirled  up  the  starry  sky  aloft. 
And  in  the  Bull  was  enteVe<l  certainly.** 

Flower  and  the  Leaf. 

** the  youn^  sun 

llath  in  the  Kam  his  halfc'  course  v'run.*' 

Prologue  C.  T. 

**  And  Phcebus  'gan  to  shed  his  streamer  »heen 
Amid  the  Bull,  with  all  the  beamr**  bright." 

Complaint  of  the  Black  Knight. 

N.B.— '* And  in  the  Bull,''  "Amid  the  Bull," 
^^Ilath  in  the  Ram/'  identical  in  thought  nud 
construction. 

In  stanza  30  occurs  this  lino — 

**  Cliaplcts  fresh  of  oakes  cerrial.'* 

Flower  and  the  Leaf, 

**  A  crown  of  green  oak  cerrialj'* 

Knight's  Tale,  1.  2292. 

"  The  Flower  and  the  Leaf,"  thus  closely  con- 
nected '\%'ith  the  "Black  Kni-iht"  and  the  Can- 
terbury TaleSf  must  certainly  have  been  written 
by  Chaucer,  for  it  is  plainly  alluded  to  in  the 
I*  Legend  of  Good  Women," *1 88- 104  j  playfully, 
indeed,  and  as  a  matter  to  which  he  was  quite 
indillerent. 

**  But  nathelcMS  ne  wore  not  that  I  make 
In  praising  of  the  Hower  aguiust  the  leaf.*' 

4.  With  the  "  Flower  and  the  Leaf "  is  some- 
times found  appended  a  semi-detacbed  e>im,  but 
it  is  also  found  appended  to  the  Death  of  Blanche. 
This  is  remarkable,  because  the  "  Death  "  is  an 
undoubted  work  of  Chaucer's,  and  the  scribe  who 
appended  it  to  the  "Flower  and  the  Leaf"  must 
clearly  have  identified  Chaucer  with  the  latter 
piece  also. 

Mr.  Furnivall  makes  merry  with  the  follow- 
ing line : — 

"  Suspiries  which  I  effunda  in  silence." 

T  consider  this  a  very  /<?/rrf  joke.  It  is  in  point 
of  fact  a  pun  on  "  suspiro  de  profundis."  No  one 
need  be  startled  at  this  who  remembers  the  base 
Latinity  of  ancient  Pistol,  or  the  incongruousness 
of  "I  did  impeticos  thy  gratility,"  in  Twelfth 
Night;  but  we  need  not  go  so  far  a-field,  for  it  is 
quite  in  keeping  with  the  BirtTs  Matins. 

A.  H.\XL. 


It  is  pleasant  to  see  a  good  Joke  or  two' la 
"  N.  &  Q."  The  best  ia  the  nnmber  for  Jan.  S8  is 
no  doubt  that  of  the  Qaeen  of  Sbebe  havioff  oone 
to  yisit  Solomon  bj  ndlwar,  becauee  ehe  came 
with  a  very  great  train ;  and  the  second  beat  is 
cei-tainly  Mr.  Hall's  notioo  of  supposing  that 
Chaucer  (who  died  in  1400)  could  be  open  to  a 
charge  of  gross  plagiarism,  because,  in  about  1370 
A.D.,  he  imitatea  a  plainly  fifteenth  century  poem 
like  "  The  Court  of  Love."  Mb.  Hall*s  otktr 
pa«ition,  that  no  one  would  dare  to  refer  to  Cbaa- 
cer*s  work  but  Chaucer  himself,  is  almost  as 
jocose.  For  if,  after  Wordsworth's  death,  any  one 
imitated  him,  or  rather  worked  up  in  a  new  posm 
some  of  his  master's  characters  and  stansas,  who 
would  think  this  proof  that  Wordsworth  wnito 
the  new  poem  ? 

No  doubt  "The  Court  of  Love"  refers  tj 
Chaucer's  "  Pity,"  and  frames  some  of  its  staniss 
on  the  "  Pity's '"'  model.    Take  these : — 


Chaucer' 9**  Pity, *^ 

*'  Bonnte  parfVt  |  wel  armed  &  richely 
And  fresshe  beaote  |  lust  and  iolyte 
Assured  maner  |  youthe  and  honeste 
Wisdume  estaat  |  drede  and  govemaunce 
Confedred  both  by  bonde  |  and  Aliiaonce." 

QmrtofLovt. 

"  In  bownt^,  favor,  porte  and  semlynesie, 
Plesaunt  of  figure,  myrroare  of  delitd 
Gracious  to  sene,  and  rote  of  gentilnene. 
With  angell  visage,  losty  rede  &  white ; 
There  was  not  lak,  sauf  aanger  had  a  lit* 
This  godely  fressh  *  in  rule  a  govsmaunce.'' 

Chaucer's  "  Pity:' 

"  My  peyne  is  this  |  that  what  so  I  desire,  ^ 

That  hnue  I  not  |  ne  no  thing  lyke  tberto ; 
And  cuer  setteth  desire  |  myn  hert  on  fire. 
Eke  en  that  other  syde  |  where-so  I  goo. 
What  maner  thinge  that  may  encreK  my  voOt 
That  haue  I  redy  |  vnsoghte  |  eueiy  where. 
Me  lukkctli  hut  my  deth  |  and  than  my  bore.** 

Court  of  Love. 

*'  But  that  I  like,  that  may  I  not  come  by ; 
Of  that  I  playn,  that  have  I  haboundaunce 
Sorowe  uiid  thought,  they  sit  me  wonder  nye; 
Me  is  withhold,  that  myf^ht  be  rny  ideMnnce : 
Yet  turne  agnyn,  my  worldly  sumsaance. 
0  Indy  bright !  and  sauf  your  feithfull  true. 
And  ar  1  dye,  yit  ones  vpon  me  rewe." 

The  birds'  matins  at  the  end  of  "  The  Co«t  of^ 
Love  "  were  also  of  course  suggested  by  GhsMDBS*s  ^ 
•*  Parlament  of  Foules."  The  very  foUowiag  of 
Chaucer  by  *'The  Coairt  of  Love"  shows  thit 
that  poem  was  not  Chaueer's.  It  is  by  a  pnfMli 
not  the  master.  Its  rhythm  has  not  Ilia  swept 
ilow ;  its  special  turns  and  words  are  most  orthsn 
not  his.  Fancy  Chaucer  writing  two  audi  liaii 
as — 


♦  Imitated  from  Chaucer's"  stmsly  iwste^"  lmt«isBi|r 
not  Chaucer, 


4*  S.  IX.  Fbb.  10,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Ill 


"  £n|irint  my  ipeche  in  yoore  memorUlI 
8«dly,  aiy  prinewic,  salve  of  all  my  sore  1  *' 

•  ••••• 

Or— 

^^.  '    **  Hir  lawe  is  for  fdigiotite/'  Ac 

The  ring  of  "  The  Court  of  Love  "  i«  fifteenth 
oentuiT;  at  earliest/  all  through.  There  is  no 
MS.  evidence  for  the  poem  heing  Cbaucer*s.  It 
does  not  observe  the  laws  of  his  r^'nie.  The  best 
modem  j  udges,  like  Prof,  ten  Brink,  Mr.  Bradshaw, 
Mr.  Skeat,  &c,  have  declined  to  allow  it  to  be 
Chaucer*s.  It  plainly  imitates  Chaucer's  poems, 
and  almost  quotes  mm,  hie  Canterhun-y  Tales  as 
well  as  his  early  poems. 

eUrk't  Tale  and  MercJutnfa. 

*•  And  let  hem  care  and  Wepc,  &,  cryug  &  wayle. 
Wqjyng  &,  wailyng,  care  <&  otber  sorowe." 

(kturt  of  Love, 
**  For  weile  and  wepe,  and  cr^'e,  and  ejwke  and  preye.** 

It  is  clearly  after  Chaucer's  -time,  and  wns  un- 
doubtedly written  by  some  admirer  of  bis.  What 
are  Mr.  Hall's  arguments,  if  so  they  can  be  called, 
for  tbe  genuineness  of  "  The  Court  of  Love  **  P — 
1.  "There  are  resemblances  between  this  poem  " 
(which  we  admit  and  explain)  ^^  and  Cbaucer*s 
works ;  therefore  Chaucer  wrote  it  as  well  as  his 
proved  works."  2.  "If  Chaucer  did  not  write  '  The 
Court  of  Love,'  who  did  ?  You  can't  say ;  there' 
fore,  again,  Chaucer  wrote  it."  This  reasoning  is 
evidently  grounded  on  the  assumption  that  all 
readers  of  *'  N.  &  Q."  are  fools ;  and  against  it  I, 
as  one  of  such  readers,  protest" 

F.  J.  FUKKIVALL. 


LORD  BROUGIIAM  AND  LITERATURE.f 

^  I  find  a  notice  of  Lord  Brougham  in  the  Gear- 
^if3ui  Era.  Who  were  the  authors  of  this  work  ?  % 
^ix  William  A'Beckett  wrote  some  part;  his 
^^^her  T.  T.  A'Beckett  wrote,  I  believe,  an  anony- 
*^^ciu8  pampblet  addressed  to  Lord  Brougham 
«^^tdtled  — 

On  the  Law  of  debtor  and  creditor  ....  addressed 
^  t.he  Lord  High  Chancellor,  4c.  Cochrane,  1833.  2nd 
*<*it.  1840. 

-As  to  the  pamphlet  entitled — 

|w.'X^he  Reform  Ministoy  and  the  reformed  parliament. 
^*U^rway,  1833, 4th  edition,  same  year  — 

**^«  Quarterfy  RevieWj  voL  1.  p.  218,  says : — 

**^The  great  bead  of  tbe  law,  diasatiafied  with  the  little 
J^tice  that  he  had  lately  reoaived,  is  understood  to  have 
^^■^«2  the  chapter  on  Legal  Reform  with  his  own  hand,  or 
l^tH  one  of  the  many  hands  which,  by  dint  of  patronage, 
^  l^as  made  his  own — and  indeed,  it'  has  been  shrewdlv 
T^P«ct«d  that  the  whole  pamphlet  was  .got  up  for  tlK 
^^«  of  this  chapter,  just  as  we  remember  to  have  heard 
^(^^.^  an  ingenioiis  gentleman  published  an  entire  Peerage 

•     Whai  did  "  yede  my  way,"  line  692,  come  in  ? 
t    C^tiiinadfrom4«i'S.ix:70. 
ViSJb-iSamCu'kT*****  **^  the  editorship  attributed 


for  the  sake  of  introducing  his  own  claims  to  a  dormant 
title." 

I  presume  the  ^  ingenious  gentleman  *'  to  be  Sir 
Egerton  Brydgee. 

About  the  same  time  a  pseudonymous  pamphlet 

was  published : — 

Lord  Brougham's  Local  Coarts  bill  examined.  By 
U.  B.  Denton.    Lond.  \V.  CrofU,  1833, 8vo. 

The  author  of  this  was  Edgar  Taylor,  who  dis- 
tinguished himself  alike  in  literature  and  law,  his 
fairy  tales  still  being  popular,  and  the  news- 
papers have  not  long  since  had  to  record  the 
melancholy  and  premature  end  of  tbe  head  of  the 
firm  he  founded— E.  W.  Field. 

This  is  scarcely  the  place  for  a  suggestion,  but 
I  observe  that  a  testimonial  is  being  got  up  to 
Mr.  E.  W.  Field ;  and  in  my  opinion  the  oest 
testimonial  to  this  accomplished  lawyer  and  artist 
would  be  some  account  of  his  life. 
I  A  number  of  other  pamphlets  were  published 
\  on  the  rejected  Local  Courts  Bill,  whose  titles 
I  need  not  enumerate  here ;  sufficient  to  sa^  that 
most  of  the  authors  are  unknown  to  me.  I  may, 
however,  notice  an  article,  as  I  have  noticed  one 
before  in  BlackwoocTs  Magazine^  most  violently 
abusive  of  Lord  Brougham,  which  appeared 
originallv  in  the  number  for  April  1834,  entitled 
*^  Lords  brougham,  Lyndhurst,  and  local  courts." 
The  very  greatest  interest  was  excited  by  all 
Lord  Brougham's  plans  for  reform,  and  numerous 
pamphlets  were  tne  consequence;  but  perhaps 
those  which  caused  most  controversy  were  the 
"  Aristocracy  "  pamphlets.  I  have  touched  a  little 
upon  these  in  tbe  Handbook  of  Fictitious  Names. 
Of 

Thoughts  upon  the  aristocracy  of  England  by  Isaac 
Tomkin:»,  gent.    Lond.  Hooper,  1835, 

eleven  editions  appeared  the  same  year :  the 
Edin.  Rev.  for  April  1835  quoted  nearly  the  whole 
of  it,  without  once  mentioning  Lord  Brougham's 
name ;  the  article  being  also  attributed  to  his 
loi*dship  by  his  enemies ;  and  John  Richards,  Esq. 
M.P.  lost  his  temper  over  the  matter  and  became 
so  impertinent  that  it  is  wonderful  he  did  not 
receive  some  castigation  either  from  his  lordship's 
hands  or  tongue.  The  ''  Memoirs  "  are  silent  on 
the  point,  and  leave  it  still  a  matter  of  doubt 
whether  these  were  from  Lord  Brougham *s  pen. 

Olphar  Haicbt. 
9,  Henrj'  Road,  New  Bamct. 


THE  ORDER  OF  THE  BLACK  EAGLE. 

The  recent  admission  of  His  Royal  Highness 
the  Prince  Arthur  to  this  order  may  give  some 
interest  to  the  following  extract  from  the  Mi^ 
moires  histori^ptes,  poi&ques,  critiques,  et  Ht- 
tiraires  of  Amelot  de  la  Houssaie,  printed  at 
Amsterdam  in  2  yols.  12mo,  1722  (toL  iL  303, 
304):— 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  S.  IX.  Fim.  iOt  "Tt 


''  Er.  1700  I'Empereur  Li^polil  I  iriget  U  PrusM  Du- 

cale  er  Ituymnme,  en  fiveur  de  I'KlecUiiu  Federjc-Guil- 
liume  II,  milgTi!  [oul«  les  oppoaitloni  riilci  dumnl 
c^iiiq  i.:iJ,  au  aum  de  I'Oidre  Teutonique,  piir  le  Princa 
Fran^ui^LouIi  de  Xculwr);.  aon  (iraud-Miitre,  ii  le  15 
lie  JiTivicr  17D1,  oet  Electeur  w  fit  pniclanier  Roi  & 
Kuni^pberg  en  PruUf,  que  nous  apellons  (»'c)  en  Fianvni", 
Itoviumont;  i  la  IB  auivani,  il  fut  ncii  li  rouruiuie 
ITM  aa  femuia  dina  li  ChapFlla  ilu  Cli&t««u.  Le  nieiue 
Jour,  liinatitua  una  CheTalcric.  qu'il  ■  aomm6e  fOrdrr 
dt  I'A.gIt  nniVe,  dOQt  I*  mlrqne  eit  une  Cruii  amsillee  de 
\iiea  i^a-le,  faite  comme  ccllc  de  Malte  avec  des  Ai),'1c& 
noEm  antra  lea  Anglea,  &  lided'un  ruban  oraogf  qui  passe 
da  IVpaule  irauEbe  au-deaoiu  du  bras  druiL  11  crfa  ce 
jour-l^  20  CEevaliera,  saToir,  le  Princa  fHlectoril,  wn  fils, 
tta  tmi>  frirea,  le  Due  de  Curlande,  la  ComU  de  Warlen^ 
lierg,  (iraad-Chanibellin ;  le  Sieur  de  Paid,  Grand- 
Uardchil ;  lea  Imia  Comlea  de  Dhoaa,  Is  Comta  d& 
Lutheran,  Grind-Har&hal  de  la  Cour ;  lea  quatre  R^gens 
da  Pruua,  le  Cooiniisuure-Gdn^ral,  le  Sieur  Dulaiv, 
Grand-Maitra  de  la  Usiaon  de  la  Rciae  Klectrice;  it 
liiaDj.Mallra  de  1' Artilleries  le  Sieur  Hrandt,  lieu-  | 
Unant-G^n^ral,  &  le  Sieur  Tettau,  Uajor-Geiieral. 

"  ff;la  que  le  Duche  de  PrUMe  purte  pour  fvusson,  i 
d'argrnt,  k  I'Algle  de  Sable,  acolU  d'uce  couianne  d'or  ; 
&  que  c'eaE  la  raiion,  pourquui,  le  noureaa  Rtu  de  Pruaae 
a  donni!  ji  cet  Urdre  la  nom  de  i'Aigla  nuire.  11  en  tint 
la  pr«miar  Cliapitre  le  18  de  Janvict  1703,  jour  annircr- 
aaire  de  aoa  Couronnement,  i  Ht  la  c^r^mauia  de  donner 
le  Collier  &  le  Manteau  de  I'Ordre  au  Prince  d'AiibalC,  < 
iuu  de  la  Maison  de  Brandeb(iur({,  di  au  Grand-Mar^cbal 


forma  preaented  an  exceedingly  fine  appeanmeaL  AKCond 
ceremony  of  an  impreHlve  nature  now  took  pUcs,  hia 
majesty  embracing  each  of  (he  new  made  knight!  >a  thej 
were  presented  f>  him  by  the  jDungest  Fitter^  whila  tha 
oldest  Qtembeni  of  tba  order  acted  as  godfather*  to  tfaon 
who  had  just  been  iostalled. 

"  I  am  soriy  to  say  Ibat  Pilnca  Lonii  of  Hesse  ntnni 
home  immediately  on  account  of  tha  indisposlttan  id 
Prinorsi  Alice. 

"  A  grand  banquet  was  given  this  evening,  in  connec- 
tion with  the  meeting  of  tba  Chapter  of  tha  Order  of  the 
Black  Eagle,  which  was  held  to-day,  tba  18th  Januaiy, 
in  cunfurmitr  with  the  italutes  of  tha  order, 

''  His  Majesty  the  Emperor-Klngmaatopnipoaea  tout, 
and  spoke  as  follows : — 

" '  We  celebrate  to-day  a  double  annlvenary  of  tha 
— .  : ,„. ..  ,1  n — :.^  hittory.    On  thia  day 


Free  Towns  of  Germany, 


ludy  otferad  ms  by  all  the  Princaa  and 

>rEQany,  was  proclaimed.    Conaciona  of 

imad,  I,  on  the  annlTerstry  of 


nignilier  qu'ils  font  vicu  de   prutfger  Sc    di;Q'i;ndre   les 

Ab  on  upproprinte  pendant  to  tlie  abore  tlie 
uineced  cutting  from  tlie  Dm/y  Telegraph  at 
I'ridoy,  Jimuar/  10,  1872,  may  be  worthy  of 
insertion  ; — 

"Berlin,  Jan.  18. 
"Ti.  dav  look  place  the  grand  celebration  of  the  an- 
niverh.iry  of  tha  Dbtck  Eajfle  Order— the  decoration  moat 
ooveti"!  by  I'ruasiun  subjects,  and  rarply  conferred  ercn 
on  the  must  distiiiguiBhed  foreigners.  The  ceremony  bad, 
indeeil.  a  peculiar  interest  for  EngHshincn,  from  the  fact 

Bignia  of  the  order.  Among  those  who  tiijured  in  the  aa- 
aemblage  wera  some  whose  names  recall  ihe  great  efforts 
by  which  E'russia  has  made  hcrAelf  a  prominent  Power 
in  Europe — anch  men  aa  Yon  Falckenalein,  Ilerwarth 
TonDitlenQeld,  who  led  up  the  valley  uT  the  Kibe  in  1SU6 
the  right  column  of  the  Prussian  anny;  Van  Thile,  the 
amiduous  eiaistant  of  Itismarck  at  tha  Chancellery  of 
ForeigD  Aifaira  j  and  last,  but  not  least,  Count  Bems- 
torif,  who  has  represented  the  GoTernment  of  Jleilia  in 


great  event,  again  express  to  the  iUaslrions  pn- 
aenLeta  of  my  new  position,  in  presence  pf  their  r^re- 
sentativea,  my  deeplv  felt  thanks,  hoping  that  by  our 
united  efforts  we  shall  succeed  in  fulfilling  tbejuat  hopn 
of  Germany.' 

"TbK  Bavarian  Miuiater  then,  in  the  name  of  the  King 
of  Bavaria  and  the  illustrious  Federate  Alliea  In  tha  Rm- 
pira.  proposed  'The  beslth  of  the  German  Empenw, 
William  the  Victorious" 

AiKEH  iBrnr^  Clk. 
Kildrought  House,  Celbridga. 


I  afterni 


Prii 


it  bill  f' pi 


c  Arthur  drove  to  the  scene, 
along  WHO  mc  uruwn  rrmce  and  I'rlnce  Louis  of  Hesse, 
in  a  state  carriaijc,  wearing  tha  full  robes  of  the  order. 
The  asjomblage  in  the  Castle  Chapter  Kixim  was  most 
brilli;int,  and  altogether  sudia  spectnclc  was  presented  aa 
has  seldam  been  witneated.  Artcr  the  inveslilurc  tlie 
Chiplcrwaa  disaol veil,  and  a  grand  bant|UDttook  place 
in  the  Kreat  hall  of  the  Emperor's  PiiUce,  nearly  1,200 
guests  bdng  pment.  TheM  all  bdng  persons  of  dis- 
tiuclinii  whii  liave  Ikhvi  invastnl  with  variuui  orders  for 
KcrvicC)  to  Uio  atatf,  their  dcruralious  and  military  uui- 


THE  SOSGS  OF  SWITZERLAND. 
A  correspoDcIeat  of  "N.  &  Q."  in  a  vair  com- 
plimentary notice  of  my  vereion  of  Fetit-Sena'a  ■ 
Troit  verrei  de  vi'ii,  remBrked  thfttthejojoiuaon^of 
the  venerable  bard  waa  different  to  the  pnenuitj 
of  Swiss  aon^^,  which  were  of  a  more  plaintiT* 
kind.  I  am  tokrably  acquainted  witn  Swim 
ditlioB,  and,  though  aome  of  them  are  certainlj 
pathetic  and  plaititivp,  the  best  and  most  popular 
are  decidedly  iliose  that  come  under  a  diflerent 
cntegory.  .^t  this  jnyoua  season  I  shall  put  asidB 
the  serious  and  plaintive,  and  give  specimens  of 
two  or  three  that  belong  to  another  class.  The 
Qrat  that  I  ahall  pri^seut  in  an  English  dress  ii 
"  The  riower  of  the  Canton  de  Vaud  "  by  Frand* 
Oyez  da  la  Fontxine,  one  of  the  professon  in  Um 
Academy  of  Lausanne.  The  port,  a  venenbla 
and  aged  gentleuuin,  wrote  the  song  about  fortr 
^ears  ago.  Such  has  been  its  popularity  that  it 
IS  now  classed  nmonfrst  (be  national  lyrics  of  Sul- 
vatia.  Oyer  de  In  Fontaine  is,  however,  not  ■ 
mere  song-wriler;  he  is  a  poet  of  a  hiKh  order. 
Flis  songs  are  bagatelles — plensnatiies  that  great 
minds  tlirow  otf  in  moiiienis  of  joyous  relaxation. 
[  can  say  in  giving  the  following  what  I  cann'it 

•  A   most  oli'gant  edition  of  Petit-Senn'a  poem  h«a 
just  been  iHsued  at  Geneva  in  three  volumes,  Eliavlr  ilxc^ 
and  on  toned  pnlier.    The  tyfogr.iphy  b  an  bonuir  M        j 
Uniai  taste  and  tM^-  I 


40>  S.  IX.  Feb.  10,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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»< 


always  assert — it  is  stamped  with  the  approval  of 
the  learned  and  distinguished  author,  from  whom 
I  have  received  a  very  laudatory  note.  /  'and  is^ 
pronounced  vo  • — 

"  How  I  love  my  dear  country,  the  fairest  on  earth  ! 
The  moantains,  the  chalet,  the  place  of  my  birth ; 
Fur  James  or  for  Francis  I  wield  spade  or  hoe,* 
And  Vm  Peter  •  the  Flower  of  the  Canton  de  Vaud  * ! 

To  Dcrigoat*8  damsel  they  point  for  a  wife. 
But  it's  not  in  that  quarter  1*11  alter  my  life  : 
•  The  girl  b  not  pretty — she's  only  so-so, 

Shts  no  match  for  'the  Flower  of  the  Canton  de 
Vaud ' ! 

**  Once  a  year  Vm  a  soldier,  all  ready  to  fight. 
And  I  sing  and  snap  fingers  from  morning  till  night; 
And  our  captain  savj*,  'There's  the  best  warrior  I 

know — 
Here's  health  to  the  Flower  of  the  Canton  de  Vaud  !  * 

•*  I'm  a  patriot — a  real  independence  is  mine, 
I  ve  ne'er  sold  my  vote  for  a  chopine  of  wine; 
I'd  sooner  drink  cider  as  sour  as  a  sloe, 
You  can't  bribe  *  the  Flower  of  Canton  de  Vaud ' ! 


•*  I've  two  arms  that  arc   strong,  both  for  forest  and 

field; 
And  I've  got  an  old  aunt,  but  her  pnrse-strings  won't 

yield ; 
When  she  dies  all  her  cash  to  the  parish  wiU  go  — 
She*$  no  love  for  'the  Flower  of  the  Canton  de  Vaud ' ! 

••  They  say  I  look  old,  and  my  hair's  getting  white. 
Well !  if  some  of  these  days  I  shoi^d  wish  yon  '  good 

night,' 
Let  a  tombstone  of  wood  name  the  slumberer  below — 
•  Honest  Peter,  late  Flower  of  the  Canton  de  Vaud '  I  " 

It  is,  however,  not  in  modem  French  that  we 
must  search  for  the  real  songs  of  Switzerland. 
We  must  study  the  Romande^  that  old  and  beau- 
tiful patois  or  tongue  that  hngers  amongst  the 
ffreen  hilb  and  pastoral  valleys  of  the  Jorat  and 
Jura.  It  is  a  much  finer  and  more  expressive 
language  than  the  French  either  of  "  Paris  "  or 
'*  Stratford-atte-Bowe.*'  It  is  soft  and  musical, 
and  abounds  in  vowel  terminations.  The  follow- 
ing is  a  very  old  ditty.  It  is  known  as  "  Oun 
choundzou  " — i.  e.  "  a  Dream."  I  give  the  first 
verse  of  the  original  with  a  literal  rendering : — 

•*  Per   v6      divert!    no  vollin  tzanta 
^'or  your  diversion  we     will      sing 
Oana  tzansonnetta  plena  de  vreta  ; 
-4       little  song     full    of  truth ; 
Ije    teria  d'oun  choundzou  que  ma      mia     ha     fa 
T'he  theme  of  a       dream      that  my  loved  one  has  had 
Oun    lonnd   sar,    versa     contre'    la  pard. 
Ont  Jfonday  eve,  reclining  against  the  fence** 

It  will  he  observed  that  in  the  first  two  stanzas 
the  narrator  or  singer  speaks-;  there  is  then  a 
change  of  person,  and  the  '^  dream  "  is  told  m  if 
it  were  related  by  the  dairy-maid.  In  the  last 
verse  the  narrator  again  appears — 

•  •*  He  works  for  Jacques  or  Francois"  is  a  Swiss  pro- 
verb; it  means  he  works  for  anybody.    A  fellow  not 
very  cfaolct  in  his  company  is  said  to  be  "  all  right  with 
3ao«|wtQrFran9ois." 


(1 


i( 


"  To  afford  yon  diversion,  111  something  relate, 
And  remember  it's  true  what  I'm  going  to  state  : 
'Tis  a  dream  when  la^t  Monday  my  love  made  her  bed 
In  a  nook  of  the  garden,  the  hedge  overhead. 

"  The  story  is  real,  for  it's  known  in  good  sooth 
•She's  not  an  inventor,  but  sticks  to  the  truth. 
When  I've  finished  the  ditty  you  can,  if  yon  please. 
Give  me  two  or  three  eggs  or  a  morsel  of  cheese. 

" '  I  stood  on  the  mountain,  the  cows  were  hard  by. 
When  my  lovers  around  rte  I  chanced  to  espy; 
They  were  all  decent  lads,  bnt  the  number  so' great 
You  would  say  that  I  fibb'd  if  I  ventured  to  state. 

"*One  called  me  "my  darling!"  one  called  me  **my 
dear ! " 
If  I  pushed  one  away,  why  another  came  near  : 
So  I  said  "  Of  yon  all  I  can  not  be  the  bride ; 
So  do,  I  beseech,  give  me  time  to  decide. 

*  Don't  suppose  that  to  wed  I'm  in  any  great  ha«?te : 
I'm  a  pretty  young  girl,  and  to  any  one's  taste ; 
My  purse  is  not  empty,  I've  silver  and  gold 
That  would  stock  a  small  grange  with  its  pig-house 

and  fold. 

*  I  can  manage  a  dairy,  can  milk  cow  or  goat, 

I  can  make  a  new  shift,  or  can  mend  an  old  coat ; 
I'm  a  downright  good  sempstress,  I  spin  with  my 

wheels 
I  can  dam  and  foot  stockings  or  put  a  new  heel.* 
"  *  And  should  I  have  children,  I'll  nurse  them  with  care. 
Their  food  shall  be  wholesome,  and  plenty  to  spare; 
I'll  rock  them,  I'll  take  them  to  school  and  to  church, 
And  when  they  are  naughty  I  won't  spare  the  birch.' 

"  Bnt  now  came  the  end  of  her  notions  and  views. 
For  her  mistress'  shrill  voice   shouted    out  ^Fares- 

seuze  !  f 
You  hnssy  !  get  up  and  look  after  your  cream,* 
Such  was  the  close  of  my  dairy-maids  dreamJ* 

My  next  specimen  is  also  from  the  Homande. 
It  is  called  ^*  Tzansonnetta  d^  Paizan.''    L  have 
render(»d  it  almost  word  for  word ;  graces  of  poetry 
or  paraphrastic  attempts  would-be  out  of  charac- 
ter.   I  leave  the  "  uncouth  rKymes  "  to  tell  the 
story,  and  in  the  same  stanza  as  the  original. 
The  "  Ahie  !  cho  I  cho !  "  is  spoken,  and  is  what 
the  driver  says  to  his  team.    I  do  not  attempt  to 
translate  it.  "  Chateau,  Motley  (or  spotted),  Lion, 
and  Bear  "  are  the  names  of  the  four  oxen.    In 
the  original  the  hero  is  a  patzan  (Fr.  pai/san)^  but 
I  use  f<)r  it  our  word  farmer.     A  Swiss  paisan 
is  one  who  lives  on  his  own  estate,  and  works  it 
in  person ;  while  a  fcrmier  is  one  who  farms  or 
holds  from  another.     What  we  call  a  peasant  is 
in  Switzerland  an  agriculteta"  or  laboureur.     In  the 
fourth  verse  we  are  introduced  to  the  bovairon 
(Fr.  houvier),  or  the  cowherd,  who  is  also  the 
driver  or  leader  of  the  team,    tie  is  an  important 
personage  on  a  Swiss  farm,  and  it  is  he  who  looks 

•  In  the  original  the  phrase  is  "  I'an  mettr^d^  capette," 
I.  c.  "  can  put  capettes,**  which  are  coverings  to  the  het^ 
made  of  washleather  or  some  strong  materisd — a  sort  of 
half-socks  used  in  winter  over  the  stockings,  for  the 
double  purpose  of  saving  the  stockings  and  preventing 
firostbites.  In  the  country  songs  of  sJl  countnes  we  often 
find  a  list  of  the  hero  or  heroine's  accomplishments,  as  in 
the  verse  above. 

t  Idlegiri 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


I'i^  S.  IX.  Kbb.  10, 72. 


ufter  the  beasts  when  thej  are  in  their  mountcdn 

Pastures  or  in  the  winter  folds.  The  song  is  tra- 
itional,  and  is  not  found  in  print ;  at  least  I  have 
not  met  with  it  It  (as  well  as  "  The  Dream") 
was  communicated  by  Mons.  Henri  Bussy,  a 
Jorat  farmer  or  paizan.  If  Harry  Fox,  our  "  war- 
bling wag«jouer,'  heard  Mons.  Bussy  sin^  Romande 
ditties  ho  would  be  jealous,  and  particularly  so 
if  "Bijou"  (noblest  of  Spilzes!)  joined  in  the 
chorus : — 

"  Lidten,  friends,  while  I  chant  my  lay, )  , . 
A  homely  nong  in  our  country  way.    j 
Though  no  great  scholar,  V\\  tell  you  true 
Of  a  fanner,  anil  what  he's  got  to  do. 
{Spttkcn)  Abie  !  cho  I  cho  ! 

ChoruM, 
Chateau  !  Motley !  Lion !  B<»nr !        )  ^. 
We  shall  have  a  rare  time  this  year,  y    '  ' 

'*  When  the  farmer  sits  down  to  dine 

lie  eats  the  best,  and  drinks  good  wine. 

With  wull-tie.HhM  libs  be  can  get  along. 

Though  the  furrows  are  deep  and  the  soil  is  strong. 
**  My  four  oxen  are  fiiir  to  see. 

But  Lion  (tbe  black)  is  the  one  for  me  ; 

Ohatcau  nnd  Fjion  !  ycfl,  you're  the  best, 

^>o  you've  the  honour  to  lead  the  rest. 

*'  My  driver's  a  right  good  boy,  I  wot. 
Needs  but  his  voice  to  make  them  trot ; 
That's  the  (d'l  fellow  !  you  see  him  now 
At  Lion's  right  car — ho  turns  the  plough.* 

"  For  my  farm  I  can  alwayu  go 
And  get  goo.l  hands  to  weed  and  hoe  ; 
liutthc  women-folk— oh  I  I  let  them  be — 
They  work  too  hard  with  their  tongues  for  me. 

*'  My  poor  beasts,  when  their  labour's  o'er, 
Soon  get  fat  as  they  were  before ; 
When  the  yokes  are  taken  away. 
And  they're  a-field,  content  are  they.f 

•'  At  the  cabaret  never  a  one 
Sings  like  mc  when  my  sowing's  done. 
And  this  is  the  burden  of  mv  rhvme — 

*  PleJit-c  Heaven  to  send  good  harvest  time.' 

C/toruM. 
Chateau  !  Motley  !  Lion  !  Bear  ! 
I'm  sure  we'll  have  a  good  time  this  year." 

Sinci!  I  obtained  the  above  Romande  songs 
from  Mons.  Bussy,  I  have  hoard  them  snug  by 
(liferent  paysans  and  others,  and  I  am  convinced 
that  they  are  very  old  traditional  rhymes,  and 
not  tho  efTusions  of  any  modem  hand.  My  stock 
of  Romande  ditties  is  not  exhausted^  but  at  pre- 
sent I  conclude  with  a  street  and  public-house 
ditty  of  the  Canton  de  Soleure  or  Solothuru.    The 

*  **  Le  bovairon  cs  bon  vaults''  t.  e.  literally  a  good 
boy;  not  a  bon  enfant,  or  good  fellow.  The  bovainm 
may  be  a  very  old  man,  but,  like  many  of  our  dependents, 
hi'  is  never  out  of  his  professional  boyhood. 

f  The  following  is  the  original  text  of  this  verse.  I 
give  it  to  sltow  how  closely  I  have  followed  the  Ro- 
mmdo : — 

*  Qnan  les  baaou  en  b'n  travailli, 
On  tzertze  k  ]4a  bin  ^graaair ; 
Les  pourr^  b^tcs  sant  bentftzes. 
Dc  remair  lo  <lzau  de  eus  las  tetes.* 

The  other  verses  are  rendered  in  the  some  literal  manner. 


original  \a  in  German  Mtou — a  Swim  dnlect 
wherein  the  Romande  (^  the  Jorat  and  Juia  is 
mixed  with  Old  Oerman,  and  fornu  a  not  Teir 
melodious  7n6lanffe,  The^ng  is  kno^n  as  "Diinu 
und  BiibeU  " : 

"  She  is  a  peasant's  daughter,  so  lovely  to  behoM, 
And  Bttbeli*s  long  and  flowing  locks  outshine  tlie  jt^ 

low  gold. 
And  Dilrsli  fkin  would  have  her,  bat  her  aged  sire  has 

said, 

*  You  must  wait  a  little  while,  boy !  she  is  too  young 

to  wed.' 

*^Thcn  Dilrsli  sought  her   mother,  and  did  his  stozy 
tell: 

*  May  I  marry  Bttbeli.for  I  love  her  passing  well  ?  * 
The  mother  took  him  by  the  hand,  and  gave  her 

kindest  smile, 

*  Yes,  you  may  marry  Bttbdl,  but  you  must  wait 

awhile.' 


*'  He  turned  away  right  angry,  he  turned  away  in 
And  to  the  town  of  Solothurn  hia  harried  fixitotepa  go; 
And  there  he  met  the  sergeant,  and  thus  to  hiin  apace 

he  : 
*■  I  hear  you're  wanting  soldiers,  and  all  for  the  Low 

Countrie.* 

"  The  scrgeaat  drew  his  leathern  purse  that  was  so  strong 
p.nd  stout. 

And  on  the  g<ist-haus  table  three  thalera  coanted  oat. 

'  Here,  take  thou  that,  brave  Dilrsli !  it  is  my  master*^ 
fee; 

And  now  thou  art  a  soldier  to  fight  in  the  Low  Conn- 
trie.' 

^'Thcn  straightway  to  his  village  his  steps  he  slowly 

bent, 
And  to  the  cot  of  Bilheli  right  mournfully  he  went ; 
*  I  may  not  marry  Babeli^bcdiold  thesu  fhalem  three ! 
You  see  I  am  culisted,  and  bound  for  the  Low  Coun* 

trie.' 

**  She  rush'd  into  the  ganlen,  she  rush'd  into  tho  plaia» 
She  wept  beneath  the  lindens  as  if  her  heart  wooUl 

snap  in  twain. 
'  0  do  not  cry,  my  Biibeli,  for  Heaven  will  guard  my 

life. 
In  a  year  I  shall  be  back  again,  and  take  thee  for  my 

wife. 

"  And  if  I  cannot  then  return  a  letter  111  indite. 
And  of  my  truth  and  conMunvy  I  tenderly  will  write ; 
But  if  the  sk\'  were  paper  and  a  scribe  each  star  above. 
And  every  scribe  had  seven  hands,  they  could  not  write 
all  my  love.' " 

For  the  original  of  the  above  song  (which  re- 
sembles our  "  Summer's  Morning  ")  I  am  indebted 
to  Dr.  Zeigler  of  Soleure  and  Berne.  The  con- 
cluding lines  will  recall  ^^The  Idiot's  Lines  ^' 
which  were  given  in  jm  early  number  of  "N.&Q." 
Tho  Idiot  must  have  been  a  very  learned  man,  for 
in  the  Koran  we  read :  "  If  all  the  trees  of  the 
earth  were  quills,  and  the  sea  could  be  inflated 
to  seven  seas  of  ink^  the  word  of  God  could  never 
be  exhausted.*'* 


[?  There  is  a  sweet  simplicity  in  a  version  of  these  oft- 
quoted  lines  as  given  in  a  small  volume  of  M9.  Poemv 
circa  1603,  in  Addit.  H8.  22,601,  p.  go,  in  tbe  "-••-^ 
Museum : — 


4*  &  IX  Feb.  10,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


115 


lo  Galderon  wc  find — 

**  Si  el  <mar  fuera  deXinU, 
Y  la  tienrn  dc  pa  pel, 
No  podiera  explicarte. 
Mi  flnusimo  carel  '^  [cariBo.] 

There  is  alao  a  passage  in  the  Talmud,  from 
wbxch  that  in  the  Koran  seems  plagiarised.  A 
leanied  Italian  priest  assures  nie  that  our  ^^  Idiot's 
Unes**  are  translated  from  an  old  Italian  Tersinn. 

James  IIenby  Dixon,  LL.D. 


Scotch  Moket. — In  an  almanac  of  sorap  pre- 
tension, profei«ing  to  contain  '^  information  for 
everybf>dy,**  we  hare  the  following : — 

**  Krotch  raonev  is  only  one-twelfth  of  the  rnlue  of 
moiMor  8terlin£r,  and  ia  divided  in  the  same  manner.  In 
all  bill  or  money  transactions  relatin^o  Scotland,  if  it 
be  dedrcd  that*  the  amount  should  L^untierstood  as  in 
England,  it  is  reqtuMte  to  insert  or  mention  the  ^vord 
tterihuj  to  show  that  Englisli  value  or  amount  is  in- 
tended.*' 

Please  observe  that  the  almanac  is  not  one  for 
1C72,  but  for  1872!  I-iet  no  Southron  merchant 
overlook  this  precious  piece  of  *'  information,"  lest,, 
when  he  has  sold  to  some  wide-awake  townsman 
of  mine  a  bale  of  soft  goods  at  twenty  shillings 
ft-yaud,  he  should  find  himself  fully  paid  with 
twenty  ttcnce !  Ilitherto  we  have  supposed  that, 
by  the  law  of  Scotland^  sterling  money  is  always 
preaomed.  Xobtal  Cltne. 

Aberdeen. 

K«w  Bells  at  AsHTON-uyDEB-LTNE.  —  The 
Siahop  of  Manchester  dedicated  a  peal  of  hells, 
wbidi  have  been  presented  to  St  Petcr*s  church, 
Asbton-under-Lyne,  on  Dec.  27, 1671;  and  as  it 
majr  be  of  interest  to  some  readers  of  **  N.  &  Q.'* 
I  giTe  you  the  inscriptions  on  the  bells : — 

1.  ■*  My  gcotle  note  shall  lead  the  cheerful  itound— 

Peace  to  this  pariali,  may  goodwill  abound.** 

2.  ••  Our  voices  tell  when  joy  or  grief  betide  ; 

Ifoam  with  the  mourner,  welcome  home  the 
bride.'' 
8.     Mav  all  in  tmth  and  harmony  reJMce, 

To  bonoar  Oharch  and  Qaeen  with  heart  and 
voice." 
4.  ^  pFuaperity  attend  Old  England's  shore  ; 
J^  Ashton  flourish  now  and  evermore." 

6.  **  With  loving  voice  I  call  to  church  and  pra^-er, 

And  bid  the  living  for  the  grave  prepare." 

€.  **  For  mercies  undeserved  this  peal  is  raised, 

So  may  Thy  name,  O  God,  through  Ohrist,  be 
pvaiMd.** 

7.  "Grateful  for  all  and  every  blessing  here. 

We  look  oo  high  in  faith  and  without  fear ; 
The  goodneaa  of  «ir  God  we  do  proclaim '; 
Let  priest  and  people  praise  his  holy  name.** 


If  all  the  earthe  were  paper  white 

And  all  the  aea  were  incke, 
*Tware  nut  aDoogh  for  me  to  write 
As  mj  po»re  harte  doch  thiake." 
arttdas  «b  thaae  lines  appeared  in  oar  First 
~  Index,  p.  110,  ool.  i.] 


On  the  eightli  bell  is  inscribed — 

"  This  peal  of  eight  bells  (tenor  20  cwt)  was  pven  to 
St.  Peter's  Church,  Asliton,  1871,  by  George  Heginbot- 
tom,  Esq.,  J. P.,  Mayor  of  the  borough  in  the  years  18r>3, 
1854,  and  185.%  to  the  honour  and  glory  of  God." 

Septuius  Hendersow. 

• 

WooLwicn  Dockyard.  —  It  is  worth  noting 
that  after  an  existence  of  some  three  hundred 
years,  Woolwich  Dockyard  was  closed  on  Friday, 
September  17,  18(V.K     "  Philip  S.  Kino. 

Epitaph  in  Grkat  Wilbraham  CnuRcn. — 
Bishop  Berkeley  was  not  the  only  person  to  whom 
was  attributed  **  every  virtue  under  heaven.*' 
May  I  submit,  for  preservation  in  the  pages  of 
**  N.  &  Q."  an  epitaph  which  a  lady  residing  in 
Cambridgeshire  nas  kindly  copied  for  me  from  a 
monument  in  Great  Wilbraham  church,  in  that 
county.  I  say  "  preservation,"  for  in  these  day.s, 
when  "  improvemt*nt  '*  is  everywhere  untied  "  Xo 
fight  against  the  Churches"  (the  doom  of  five 
was  announced  in  The  Times  Inst  week),  the 
sooner  epitaphs  of  interest  are  confided  to  tvpo- 
graphy  the  better  for  posterity. 

**Mav  this  Monument  be  Sustained 
To  the  End  of  Time ! 

"  Sacred 
To  the  Mcmon*  and  Virtues  of 

Miss  Mary  Waud: 

The  Darling  of  her  Friends; 

The  Admiration  of  Strangers ; 

And  real  Blessing  of  her  Family. 

Her  Person 
Was  Tall  and  Gracefull: 

Her  Features 

Handsome  and  Regular : 

But  her  Mind, 

PiouR,  Modest,  Delieate  and  Amiable, 

Beyond  the  credit  of  description. 

Parents  of  Children, 

And  Inhabitants  of  her  Native  Village, 

Drop  a  Tear 

To  this  Sweet  Short-lived  Flower ; 

Who  having  just  added  a  Complcat  Education 

To  her  Natural  F.xccllences,  , 

Died 
Uncommonly  Perfect  and  Lamented, 
On  the  30»»>  Jan-?, 
175G  : 
Aged  15  Years  C  Months." 

SniRLEY  Brooks. 

First  Actor  of  '*  Hamlet.'' — Writi&g  of  Shake- 
speare, Mr.  Harness  said : — 

**  With  a  knowled^  of  the  art  which  rendered  him  fit 
to  be  the  teacher  of  the  first  actors  of  his  da}',  and  to 
instruct  JoKph  Taylor  in  the  character  of  Hamlet,"  Ac 
Literary  LiJ'f  of  Rev.  IFm.  Harness,  p.  50. 

Burbage  was  the  first  performer  of  Hamlet 
He  was  probably  succeeded  in  the  part  by  Taylor, 
and  there  is  no  reason  to  doubt  that  mock  of  tbe 
author's  conception  of  the  part  has  deaeended  by 
tradition.  (See  «  N.  &  Q."  2^  a  iii.  406, 4^."^ 


ne 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES- 


[4<k  S.  IX.  Feb.  10,  'iS. 


Vtse*b  "Arithmetic.'* — Professor  Do  Morpan  ! 
in  his  Catalogue  of  Arithmetival  liookA,  P-  81 ,  desig-  \ 
natos  Vyse  as  '*  the  poet  of  arithmeticians/*  and  ! 


PROTFXTOR.    Keverse :  magnvv  .  sioillvv  .  BRt* 

PVB   :    ANGLI.i:   .   BCOTIJB   .    £T  .   HIBERKT.V  .  &C. 

Diameter,  5-5  inches.  The  obverse  engraved  by 
Vortue,  plate  xxiii.,  and  both  sides  by  A.  Collas, 
phite  XXIV. 

Seal  of  Oliver  Cromwell  before  made  Protector. 
Shield  with  four  quarterings^  helmet,  and  mant- 
lin<j:  [as  uttixed  to  the  warrant  for  beheading 
IJiit  these  lines  will  be  found  in  the  Ladies'  Charles  I.l 
DiiU'l/  of  1708,  sixty-thmj  ynars  bef.»re  the  ap-  Oliver  (Vomweirs  Family  Seal.— Shield  with 
peftianco  of  the  first  edition  of  \'yst''s  Arithmetic  six  quart.'riii<rs,  helmet,  crest",  and  mantling:.  0\-aI, 
^1771),  and  a  veriKed  solution,  by  a  l.-uly,  appears  .^ize  1  (5  by  1*4  inches.  Engraved  by  Vertue,  plate 
in  tiie  Diary  of  170i>,  which  I  hero  ai>pi'nd: —     -    ,  xxxi. 

*'  When  linjt  tlie  solemn  knot  was  ty\l 
Your  wife  was  just  liftirn  ; 


ftssi^^ns  to  him  the  well-known  lines — 

"  When  lirht  the  marria^o  knot  was  tied 
IJetwc'.'n  niv  wife  and  me. 
My  ajjo  did  hers  as  far  excwd 
As  three  times  three  dot's  threi*."  Ac. 


You  by  proportion  fortj'-Iive, 

Which  is  as  three  to  nino. 
But  when  vour  hoarv  head  arriv'd 

To  ten  and  half  W.w  more. 
Your  youthful  bride  .>»aw  tlnrty  years 

And  you  could  ttll  threesfore. 
Thus  have  I  told  without  delav 
What  was  your  age  o'  th'  mairia^*'  ti.iy." 


Privv  St»al  of  the  Lord  ProtectorOliver. — Arm.o, 

royal  cro.^t,  helmet,  supporters,  and  motto,  aa  upun 

le  (ireat  Seals.  Insenptiou:  olivik  .  dri  .  ORA  . 


31.  D. 


SKALS  OF  OLIVKU  CliOMWKLL. 

I  ."liould  feel  much  oblijred  if  any  n-.ult'rs  who 
arii  well  conversant  with  old  dorinnunts  would 
kindly  pive  me  the  names  and  lefonncf  uunibt;rs 
of  any  deeds  to  whioh  are  appt-nded  seals  of 
OlivtT  Cromwt'll.  I  ^ive  a  briid"  list  id"  all  the 
Crun.widl  seals  with  whic^h  1  am  acquainted,  and 
I  sh.ill  be  n^lad  to  know  where  exauij)les  of  any  of 
them  are  pre:»erved. 

GREAT  SKALS. 

For    England. — Obverse:    olivarivs  .   dei  . 

(JIIA   .    RKIP   .    ANGLI.K  .  SCOTKK  .  KT  .   II I  HERN  I. E  . 

&c.  PROTKCTOR.      lleverse :  maoxvm  .  sigillvm  . 

RKirVH  :  ANGLI.E   .    SCOTI.E  .  KT  .  H1BEKXIJ2  .  &0. 

Diameter  5*8  inches,  l^olh  '^iiies  are  en;j:raved  in 
George  Vertue's  IVorks  of  Thomas  Him'm  (4t.>, 
London,  1753),  plates  xvii.  xviii. 

For  Scotland.  —  Obverse:    omvarivs  .  dki  . 

ORA  .  RKIP   :  ANGLI-K   .    SCOTI.E   .    IIT  .  inBKKMJ5  . 

&c.  rROTECTOR.  Kever!*e  :  mao.wm  .  siuillvm  . 
8C0TI.K  .  1000.  Diameter,  4  JMncli«s.  lioth  sides 
engnived  by  Vertue,  plate  xix.  Tiie  (diverse  en- 
irraved  in  A.  Collas's  (ircat  tb\ulii  of  Kmifaud  (fol. 
London,  1837),  plate  xxii. 

For  Ireland. — Obverse:  olivarivs  .  dei  .  gra  . 

RKir:    ANOLIJ-:   .    SCOTI.E    .    ET    .    IIinEKM.E   .  &C. 

PRO! ECTOR.  Keverse:  maonvm  .  siuillvm  .  ni- 
iiKRNiiK  .  1055.  Dianu^ter,  5-4  inches.  Hoth  sides 
engraved  by  A.  CoUas,  plate  xxiii. 

[Qy.  Are  there  any  diiferent  dates  of  these 
Great  Seals  than  those  given  here  ?] 

The  Protector  Kichard*s  Great  Seal  for  Eng- 
land.— Obverse :  richabdvs  .  dei  .  oka  .  bkipvb- 

LIC^  ..  a  NOLLS  .  SCOTI.X  .   ET  .  niDKRNI^  .   &C. 


the  ( Treat  tSeals.  Inscription 

RKIPVB   .    AXOrjjjB  .   8U0TI.T3  .  ET  .  Ill  BERN  I.«  .  *C. 

PROTECTOR.  Circular.  Diameter,  2o  inchea.  En- 
^'ravi'd  by  Vertue  (plate  xxxviii.)  from  the  original 
steel  die  then  in  tlie  possession  of  Mr.  Thomas 
Freeman  of  Chelmsford. 

The  Council's  Seal,  as  afRxed  to  an  order  sent 
to  Cfuenisey  by  Oliver  CromwelL — Arms  of  the 
Protectorate,  with  Cromwell's  paternal  arms  upon 
an  »»S(Mitilu»on  of  pretence.  The  whole  surrounded- 
by  a  laurel  wreath,  with  the  inscription  HiOiLLW  . 
coNsiLii.  Engraved  by  Vertue,  plate  XXV.  Cir- 
•cular.     Diameter,  1*0  inches. 

The  Cinque  Port  of  Dover  Seal.— Oliver  on 
horseback,  a  view  of  Dover  Castle  below.  Inscrip- 
tion :   OLIVARIVS  .    DEI   .    GRA   .    RKIP   .   ANOLl.V  . 

scoTLE  .  KT  .  iiiBERNi.E  .  &c.  PROTECTOR.  Circu- 
lar. Diameter,  32  inches.  Engraved  by  Vertue, 
plate  XXV.  [(^y.  Anj  there  similar  seals  of  any 
others  of  the  Cinque  I'orts  ?] 

Seal  of  1  lenry  Cromwell  as  Deputy  of  Ireland.— 
Arms  impaled,  with  helmet,  crest,  and  mantling: 

SIOIL   .    IIENRICI  .  CROMWELL  .  HIRKRXI.E  .  DEPV;;-* 

TATi.    Circular.    Diameter,  14  inches.    l<Ji^ 
by  Vertue,  ])late  xxxi. 

Descriptions  are  «»nly  requied  of  seals  of  tl 
Crouiwell  family,  and  of  the  Prot*  ct orate,  wV 
tlie  arni-j  of  Cromwell,  a  lion  rampant  upon 
csicutehfon  of  pretence. 

Henry  W.  IIbsfri=:' 

1.";,  Ivat<»n  Pl.ii'o,  r.righton. 


1 


The  Arnolds. — Where  is  the  burial- plact?     ^ 
the  old  family  of  Arnold  of  Llantihanirel  Cot-**" 
in  the  county  of  Monm«)uth  ?  Kusnct'    ' 

Dr.  R.  IL  Black  and  Jamm  Black.— < ^*-^* 
your  correspondent  Mr.  Thomas  or  any  o^^^ ^y 
contributor  mform  your  readers  of  the  origin 
these  two  jjfentlemen  P  •  It  is  a  curious  fact  t^^ 
the  name  of  lilack  is  common  in  Scotland,  pa^^- 
cularly  on  the  north-eastern  and  south-west^ 
coasts,  but  occurs  very  seldom  in  England  or  ""^^ 

[•Sec  our  Ix-it  volame,  pp.  897,  408.] 


i^  &  IX.  Feb.  10,  "Ta.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


117 


land,  except  in  the  north  of  the  latter  kingdom, 
where  many  Scotch  families  have  settled. 

On  the  other  hand,  the  name  Blake  (which  I 
take  to  be  another  form  of  Black),  although  com- 
mon in  England  and  Ireland,  is  very  uncommon 
in  Scotland.    Can  any  one  explain  this  ? 

Alpha. 

Jaxes  Hat,  Eabl  of  Carlisle. — Was  there 
Any  funeral  sermon  preached  when  James  Hay, 
first  Earl  of  Carlisle,  was  buried ;  and  if  so,  by 
whom,  and  if  published  ?  I  know  of  the  sermon 
preached  at  his  marriage,  and  also  of  the  one 
preached  at  the  funeral  of  his  son  the  second  earl. 

I  find  in  Smyth's  Obituary,  published  by  the 

Camden^Society,  1848,  p.  12— 

''1636.'sir  James  Haies,  Eiirle  of-Carli^le,  died  25 
April,  and  his  fanerall  May  G"'." 

And  in  Anecdotes  and  Trttdih'otiSf  by  AV.  .T.  Thorns 
(Camden  Society,  1830),  p.  II— 

''The  Earl  of  Carlisle  died  on  the  25th  April,  183C,  and 
buried  in  St.  Paul's  Cathedral." 


Is  there  any  account  of  the  funeral  in  print  ? 
By  whom  was  the  full-length  portrait  of  this 
earl  in  the  vestibule  of  the  hall  of  Christ  Church 
College,  Oxford,  painted  ?  G.  J.  H. 

Cherries  axd  the  Holy  Fahily. — In  the 
« Table  Talk"  of  The  Guardian  for  Dec.  27,  1871, 
the  writer  gives  the  words  of  an  old  carol,  of 
which  the  following  is  a  portion :  — 

••  Pluck  me  a  berrj',  Jos^cpli, 
Said  Mary  meek  and  myld. 
Pluck  mc  a  cherry,  .Joseph, 
And  a  berr}-  for  the  Child. 

"  0  then  bespoke  Joseph, 
It  is  a  work  too  wild  ; 
How  can  I  reach  the  berries, 

Or  cherries  for  the  ChUd  ? 

• 

"  O  then  bespoke  Joseph, 
With  words  full  of  Bcom, 
Let  Him  reach  thee  cherries 
That  is  but  newly  born. 

**  Then  out  and  spake  the  Child 
Upon  his  mother's  knee, 
liovf  down  unto  my  Mother, 
Bow  down  thou  cherry  tree ! 

**  Tlien  bowed  down  the  tallest  tree 
Unto  its  Lord's  command. 
O  spouse,  behold  and  see 
1  have  cherries  to  my  hand." 

The  writer  says  that  the  story  of  this  old  carol 
^^la  often  depicted  on  tapestry  and  in  illumina- 
tions." Did  this  story  give  the  motive  to  the 
picture  of  the  "  Holy  Familv,*'  hy  Adrian  ^'ander 
Weif,  in  the  Electoral  Gallery  of  Manheim  P  1 
have  a  beautiful  engraving  of  this  picture  by  A. 
Cardon,  published  by  Oolnaghi  in  1705.  Joseph 
is  represented  as  dangling  a  spray  of  cherries,  at 
which  the  Infant  Saviour  is  playfully  graspinf?. 
I  know  DO  more  beautiftil  representation  of  the 
Holy  FWnily.  Guiubebt  Beds. 


Clai7  Tartan. — An  English  ^entlemiein — whose 
pedigree  can  be  lineally  traced,  through  **  Sir  Hugh 
Hastyngs,  KnS  of  Elsing,  Norf.,  who  died  S'2* 
Henry  VlH.,  1540,  up  to  Syr  Ilenrye  Hastyngs, 
Kn*,  who  died  63«»  Henry  III.,  12(58,  peer  and 
baron  of  y'  realm,  and  his  wife  Jane,  doughter  to 
Willym  Canteliope  and  grand-dau^rhter  to  Sir 
William  Bruse,  Ku* " ;  also  up  to  "  Sir  Henry  de 
Hastyngs,  Knt,  who  died  84*  Henry  HI.,  1250, 
and  his  wife  A(d)da,  8"*  doughter  to  David,  erle 
of  Derbv  and  Huntyngton,  grandson  to  David  I*' 
Kyng  of  Skots " — winhes  to  know  to  what  clan 
tartan  he  is  entitled,  if  to  any.  To  the  readers  of 
'^  N.  &  Q.''  the  inquirer  addresses  this  query  under 
the  impressiou  of  its  being  of  interest  to  many 
other  persons  besides  himself.  T.  S.  N. 

Sir  Francis  Drake. — Can  any  reader  inform 
me  where  the  original  portrait  of  Sir  Francis 
Drake  is,  from  which  the  engraving  was  taken, 
size  12  in.  X  15  in.,  with  superscription  '^  Franciscus 
Draeck,  nobilissimus  eques  Angliae  An**  SBt.  sue 
43.*'  The  description  at  the  bottom,  **  Habes 
Lector  Candide,  fortiss :  ac  invictiss :  Ducis 
Draeck  ad  vivum  imaginem,  &c.''  ?  A  copy  was 
among  the  engravings  of  portraits  at  South  Ken- 
sington some  time  since.  1  think  it  is  said  to  have 
been  retouched  by  Vertue. 

The  History  of  Plymmdh,  lately  published, 
quotes  a  passage  from  Canon  Kingsley,  descrip- 
tive of  a  meeting  at  the  time  of  the  Armada, 
saying  — "  There  is  John  Drake,  Sir  Francis's 
brother,  ancestor  of  the  present  stock  of  Drakes, 
and  there  is  George  his  n«phew."  Where  did 
the  Canon  obtain  his  information?  It  may  be 
correct,  and  that  Sir  Francis  had  two  brothers 
John  —  such  double  name  did  exist  in  the  Ash 
family  branch.  Que  John  we  know  was  killed  in 
an  early  voyage,  and  left  a  widow,  who  after 
married  Cotton.  Another  John  Drake  won  the 
chain  of  gold  promised  by  Sir  Francis  to  the  first 
who  should  sight  the  Cacafuego.  VV^as  this  John 
a  brother  P .  A  statement  in  tne  College  of  Arms 
gives  .lohn  as  the  name  of  Sir  Francis's  father. 
Elsewhere  he  is  styled  Edmund  and  Robert.  We 
know  that  Sir  Francis  had  an  uncle  called  John. 
On  what  good  authority  is  the  college  statement 
founded  ?  Answers  to  these  several  queries  will 
oblige  a  very  humble  Ked  Duagon. 

Derr  used  in  Sacriptce. — Can  any  one  inform 
me  whether  the  deer  was  ever  used  in  sacrifice  P 
I  have  the  head  of  one  whose  horns  have  been 
removed  by  a  saw,  and  which  was  found  in  the 
cliffs  at  Felixstow,  near  Ipswich,  about  eight  feet 
from  the  surface.  About  one  foot  below  this 
head  was  found  a  curious  kev  of  very  early  date. 

H.  J.  H. 

Sir  Philip  Francis. — I  am  anxious  to  learn 
any  facts  which  may  lead  to  the  recognition  of  an 
evidenUy  very  learned  con^^oti^QiiXQi^vx'^Y^^ 


118 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[4"'  S.  IX.  Fkb.  10,  7^ 


Francis,  who  dated  from  "Brighton,  Nov.  5th, 
1802."  He  was  scarcelj  leas  accurately  acquainted 
with  aatronomy,  ancient  and  modem,  than  with 
the  classics ;  but,  unfortunately,  his  name  is  not 
attached  to  the  document  which  leads  to  this 
inquiry.  J.  T.  X. 

"  GoD'iN  THE  Genera Tiox  of  the  llianTEors." 
Some  time  ago  one  of  your  correspondents  sent 
you  some  extracts,  from  a  little  book  with  the 
above  title,  relative  to  the  family  of  Baird.  I 
have  tried  to  procure  the  book  at  the  publishers', 
Messrs.  Nisbet,  and  by  advertising  in  "  N.  &  Q.," 
and  The  Bookselfei-j  but  all  in  vain.  Can  any  one 
kindly  help  me  to  find  a  copy,  or  tell  me  where 
it  is  to  be  pn^ured  ?  F.  M.  S. 

Hatton's  "  New  View  of  London." — The  late 
Alexander  Chalmers  annotated  a  copy  of  this 
work  with  the  idea  of  a  new  edition.  Thorpe 
once  possessed  it.  Is  its  whereabouts  now  known  .^ 

Edward  F.  Kimjiault. 

f  There  is  a  copj'  of  IIattou*8  New  View  of  LoHdoti, 
1708,  oopiousJy  auuotatcd,  in  the  lieading  Room  of  the 
Britub  Museum,  20G5  a.  On  compariaon  we  find  the 
neat  hand- writing  resembles  that  of  Alexander  Chahners, 
the  editor  of  the  Genenil  Biographical  Dictionary.'] 

Holy  Biule. — Can  any  one  inform  me  if  a 
Bible  in  what  is  known  as  "  double  pica "  t^'pe 
has  ever  been  printed  ?  Parts  of  the  Bible  in  it 
have  been  printed,  and  also  in  other  varieties  of 
large  type,  for  the  use  of  near-sighted  pei'sous ; 
but  after  considerable  time  spent  in  mquiry  I  have 
failed  to  find  a  complete  131  blc  or  oven  an  Old 
Testament.  W.  J.  Loftie,  F.S.A. 

Haliwell  Priory.  —  In  what  archreolo^cal 
journal  can  I  find  a  paper  by  Mr.  Hugo  on  the 
ancient  Priory  of  Haliwell  in  Shoreditcli  P 

J.  0.  II. 

r  We  have  been  favoured  with  the  foUowinp^  communi- 
cation from  the  Rev.  T.  liutif),  M.A.,  F.S.A.,  F.U.S.L.,  in 
reply  to  our  correspondent's  inquirv  : — "  1  have  written  a 
History  of  Haliwell  Prior\'  for  the  London  and  Middlesex 
ArcbaBoIogical  Society.  Xlthough  oftentimes  asked  for, 
the  memoir  haii  not  been  printed,  from  a  desire  on  my 
part  to  make  it  still  more  complete.  For  any  new  and 
unpublished  matter  I  should  be  thankful. 

**The  Rectory,  West  Hackney,  Stoke  Xewington,  N.*'] 

Illuminatixo. — ^\Vill  any  of  your  readers  who 
practise  the  art  of  illumination  inform  me  if  tin- 
foil can  be  used  as  a  substitute  for  silver,  which 
tarnishes  so  rapidly  as  to  spoil  any  work  in  which 
it  is  employed  Y  1  have  in  vain  tried  to  procure 
aluminium  foil  at  the  artists'  colourmen.  Tin- 
foil ought  to  do  well,  for  it  has  a  brilliant  surface, 
but  tliere  may  be  objections  to  it.  Where  can  I 
procure  it  pure  ?  F.  M.  S. 

Languedoc. — I  should  be  fflad  of  any  informa-. 
tion  enabling  me  to  see  a  roil  of  the  receipts  of 
Philip  VI.,  from  taxation,  amercements,  and  fines 
in  Languedoc,  in  or  about  a.d.  1330. 

Edward  F.  Hihbault. 


Lii^auisTic  CniLDBRN. — ^How  do  cfaildxen  be- 
tween four  and  twelve  years  of  aga  eontrive,  whoi 
left  among  foreifipers,  'to  speak  &eir  language  in 
five  or  six  months  as  freely  and  correctly  as  thair 
models,  and  that  without  the  assistance  of  an 
interpreter  P  lias  any  one  published  an  ezpad- 
tiou  of  this  process  ?  Kika. 

LraDY  Island,  "IIerculis  Insuui." — ^It  is 
stated  in  Polwhele's  Supplement  to  Whitaker'a 
Cornwall  that  Lundy  Island  was  known  to  the 
Greeks— and  he  names  Ptolemy^  ae  having  called 
it  '^  llerculis  Insula ''  (Ilorakleia  P)  I  can  find  no 
such  reference,  and  should  be  very  glad  if  any  of 
your  readers  could  tell  me  if  Lundy  is  actually 
mentioned  by  any  ancient  author.  I  may  parha|ie 
be  allowed  to  add  that  any  information,  refereneeSy 
&:c.,  connected  with  the  island,  sent  peraonaUy  to 
tne,  would  be  most  welcome, 

E.  T.  Gibbons,  Ex.  Coll.  Oxod. 
Werrington  Vicarage,  W-olmuriUi^e,  Laonoetton. 

fScveral  references  to  works  containing  Dotices  of  the 
Isle  of  Lundy  will  be  found  in  »*  N.  &  Q."  3'<«  S.  L  171.J 

Mrs.  a.  M ANSON. — Can  any  of  your  litexarv 
correspondents  in  Nottingham  favour  me  ^wica 
any  biographical  particulars  regarding  Mrs.  Man- 
son,  wiJe  of  A.  Manson,  M.D.,  of  Nottingham  P 
She  was  authoress,  I  think,  of  The  £ve  of8t» 
IlyppoUtOy  a  play  in  live  acts,  1621  (anoo.^  It  ia 
likely  that  she  also  wrote  P^u/o,  a  play  pimted  at 
Nottingham,  183G  (anon.)  Has  Mrs.  Manaon 
written  any  other  worki>,  poetic  or  dramatic  ? 

It.  Ikqlis. 

Rev.  Mr.  Moultrie. — In  the  Butgraphia  Dra^ 
matica  the  Hev.  Mr.  Moultrie  is  named  as  author 
of  Fahc  and  True ;  or^  the  Irishman  in  Italy ^  a 
dramatic  piece  produced  in  August,  1708,  and 
performed  with  success.  Can  you  g^ve  me  any 
mfotmation  regarding  the  author?  In  the  obituaiy 
of  the  Gent  Mag,  I  find  that  the  Bev.  George 
Moultrie,  vicar  of  Cleobury-Mortimer,  Salop, 
died  May  12,  1845,  aged  seventy-three.  He  waa 
nresented  to  the  living  in  1800.  As  the  name  of 
Moultrie  is  not  a  very  common  one,  perhaps  this 
gentleman  may  be  the  author  of  the  drama  I  lutve 
named.  R.  Ikglis. 

PERSEcrTioN  OF  THE  Heathsn. — What  evi- 
dence have  we  of  tae  alleged  persecution  of  the 
heathen  by  Christians  after  the  establiahment  of 
the  church  of  Constantine  ?  I  think  more  tkan 
one  treatise  has  been  written  on  the  subject,  and 
divers  tales  and  poems.  Cormvb. 

"To  Plat  Hell  and  Tommy."— What  is  tlie 
origin  of  this  common  expression  ?  Is  it  a  oonnip* 
tion  of  '^  to  play  Hal  and  Tonunv,"  and  if  bq, 
whence  is  the  latter  phrase  derived  r  Haa  it  any- 
thbg  to  do  with  Ilenry  IL  and  Thomasa* 
Becket  ?  J.  A.  J.  H. 


4*"  S.  IX.  Fi.u. 


N()Ti:S  AND  QUl'^I'^IKS. 


119 


Pro V I XCIALISSI8. — There  are  lunny  proviiK'ial 
expressions  and  curious  words  still  lin^'«.'iin^' 
among  the  inhabitants  of  the  northern  c^uniies  of 
I'Uter,  which  well  deserve  to  he  collt-oted.  Thus 
the  Word  campe  or  hempe^  which  was  discussed 
in  ♦'  N.  &  Q."  (4»»'  S.  viii.  204,  ;?r>7, 4-t4),  record'.id 
iis  surviving  still  in  Norfolkshire,  is  c-)mmon  in 
the  county  of  Ijondouderry.  *'  To  have  a  campe  " 
with  a  person  is  to  have  a  race  or  contest  of 
rivalry  with  him.  Also,  there  is  the  expression 
••  Joy  be  wjth  him  and  a  bottle  of  bloss,'  said  of 
one  we  are  glad  to  be  rid  of.  Can  any  one  explain 
or  illustrate  tliis?  There  is  also  tJie  expression 
•'•Tibb'fj  Kve"  (c  »mmon,  I  believe,  in  ii^cotland), 
which  corresponds  to  **  the  Greek  Calends.'*  I 
can  find  no  explanation  of  this  in  Hone's  Eccni- 
flwf  hotth,  or  in  Chambers's  Hook  of  Dtvjs,  thouy:li 
in  tho  latter  there  is  a  certain  St.  Tibba  men- 
tioned, whose  anniversary  is  March  0.  Can  any 
one  as8ist  me  here  P  *  I  should  also  like  to 
know  the  derivation  of  the  word  ''  common,"  or, 
aa  it  is  here  pronounced  and  I  suppose  spelt, 
**  cammon/'  in  the  sense  of  a  game,  the  same  as 
hockey.  Is  it  called  from  the  place  where  it  is 
often  played?  I  should  also  like  to  know  the 
(leTivatiou  of  the  words  "skelp*'  (a  blow)  and 
"  b^Te.''  I  do  not  know  whether  they  are  common 
in  i*!Dgland  or  not.  Where  is  the  origin  of  the 
expression,  "•  With  one  shoe  off  and  one  on,  a<i  if 
jou  were  going  to  beg  law,"  to  be  found  Y  f.et 
me  ask  some  account  of  this  expression,  wliich  I 
heard  from  a  man  here  to-day.  He  said,  **  it 
rained  from  DelfoUan  to  bed- time.''  I  lone  and 
Chaembers  are  silent  concerning  it 

II.  S.  Skiptox. 
Beechill,  Londonderry. 

PuTTOCK. — What  is  a  pt/ttock  ?  It  is  descrihed 
in  Maunder  as  a  bird,'  or  buzzard ;  in  anothttr  dic- 
tionary it  is  described  a?  a  bustard.  What  is  the 
e^fmology  of  the  word  i*  Gko.  B.  Puttock.  • 

Goiiport. 

f  According  to  Dr.  Johnson,  pultock  is  a  kite,  from 
lAt.  buttn  n  buzzard.  Steeven.i,  however,  telld  ui  thac 
**  a  pattock  i«  a  mean  degenerate  species  uf  hawk,  too 
worthlefli  to  deserve  training."'] 

Sib  J.ix}»  Sta^csfibld.— Readers  of  "N.&  (J." 
may  remember  that  I  called  attention  to  the  story 
of  the  murder  of  Sir  James  StausBeld  by  his  own 
tXMi  Philip,  at  Newmilna  near  Haddington  in  1087 
(3"*  S.  xii.  27).  The  case  is  one  of  the  most 
cvrioofl  in  the  State  Trials.  My  object  was  to 
discover  who  Lady  Stansfield  was,  but  as  yet  I 
have  obtained  no  clue  to  her  parentage.  On  read- 
ing, however,  the  other  day  tne  virulent  attack  on 
the  Stair  family  in  Mr.  Auidment*8  curious  Book 
cf  Stxitiih  PaijuiiB  (Edin.  1827)  I  observe  that 
the  writer  says  in  a  note  that  John,  first  Earl  of 
SUdr,  was  a  cousin  of  Philip  Stansfield  the  par- 

[•  See  «  X.  4  Q."  2"»  8,  xi.  2C».] 


ricide  ;  and  from  my  former  note  it  appears  that 
Sir  James  Stanslield  made  a  will  in  favour  of 
Mr.  Hugh  Dalrymple,  brother  of  John  the  iirst 

'  earl.  Now,  as  the  earl  was  son  of  James  Dal- 
rymple  of  Stair  by  Margaret,  daughter  of  James 
Jvoss  of  Hnlneil  hi  Galloway,  it  follows  that  Lady 

I  Stansfield  must  have  been  a  Dairy mple  or  a  Itoss. 
That  she  was  **  a  Scotch  lady "  we  know  from 
the  preface  to  the  folio  edition  of  the  trial.  Thus 
the    issue    is    narrowed  very   much.     Can    any 

;  reader  of  '*  N.  &  Q."  kindly  inform  me  who  the 
other  daughters  of  Ross  of  Balneil  married,  for  I 

j  incline  to  tho  belief  that  Lady  Stansfield  was  of 
tho  latter  family  ?     Had  she  been  a  Dalrvniple 

;  the  writer  of  tho  lampoon  would  not  have  failed 

j  to  make  tho  most  of  it.  I  think  1  have  seen 
some  genealogical  particulars  in  print  about  these 
Rosses,  but  where  I  cannot  now  remember. 

F.  M.  S. 

"As  Stratgkt  as  a  Die.'* — Could  any  of  the 
readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  oblige  mo  l)y  letting  me 
know  any  particulars  about  the  above  phrase  ? 
The  person  I  hoard  it  from  treated  it  as  of  every- 
day occurrence,  and  was  quite  surprist-d  when  I 
asked  about  it.  Can  it  have  any  referouoe  to  the 
•  perfect  and  symmetrical  way  in  which  a  di»>,  fixed 
in  a  stamping  machine,  makes  its  impressions 
tiuio  after  time  without  the  slightest  variation  ? 

W.  K. 

SoNO. — Where  can  I  procure  tho  song  entitled 
*'  Oh  !  wilt  thou  be  my  bride,  Kathleen  Y  " 

Pniz. 

[The  words  of  this  son^  arc  by  ilark  Lemon,  and  the 
niubic  by  Frank  I  turner.    It  i5  printe-l  in  J.  K.  Carnen- 
ter's  Bitok  of  Mtniern  Songjgf  185i*,  p.  114  (I^>utli.><lf(e)» 
ami  the  wunis  with  tlie  luu^iic  may  pmb.-tbly  bi'  obtained 
at  Ilutchins  &  liuincr,  Conduit  Strevt,  He;5cnt  Street.] 

Unicorns.  —  In  a  note  of  Mr.  Roscoo's  to  his 
translation  of  the  Memoirs  of  Bvncenuto  CMni, 
1822  (i.  240),  he  says  an  unicorn's  head  was  at 
that  date  being  shown  in  London.  Is  tliere  any 
other  notice^of  this,  or  of  anything  similar  at  any 
other  time?  '  Lyttklton. 

Major  John  WAnr,  circa  1(551. — I  observed 
in  "X.  &  Q."  (4«»  S.  it.  04),  undnr  the  head  of 
**  Wiseman  of  Barbad.jes,"  that,  amonjrst  the  list 
of  names  given  by  J.  II.  L.  A.  as  being  taken 
from  th^  parish  registers  and  wilU  of  Rarbadoes, 
between  1040  and  1000,  that  of  Wade  appears. 
Judging  from  the  dates,  I  am  inclineil  to  think  it 
must  be  that  of  Major  John  Wade,  who  defended 
the  city  of  Gloucester  against  the  Royalists  in 
1051,  and  who  is  mentioned  in  tho  Thurlow  State 
Papers  and  Washboume's  Bibliothcca  Glonces^ 
trensis  in  the  years  1655  and  lOoO.  I  am  most 
anxious  to  discover  more  of  him,  but  have  hitherto 
failed  to  trace  him  any  later  than  tho  last  date, 
and  I  strongly  suspect  he  emigrated.  I  shall  be 
glad  if  your  correspondent  J.  li.  L.  A.  can  give 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«i  8.  IX.  Fra.  10, "«. 


me  any  information  concerning  bim,  or  can  put 
me  in  the  right  track  to  obtain  it ;  and  also  if  he 
will  enlighten  nie  on  the  following  points,  viz. 
where  the  records  of,  or  information  relating  to, 
Barbadoes  can  be  seen  or  obtained  ?  and  whether 
the  wills  he  mentions  are  there  or  in  England  P 
Major  Wade  was  the  father  of  Colonel  (or  more 
commonly  Major)  Nathaniel  Wade,  barrister-at- 
law,  of  Monmouth  rebellion  notoriety,  and  who, 
in  his  confessions  made  after  the  battle  of  Sedge- 
moor,  mentions  many  of  the  names  given  by  your 
correspondent.  He  was  town  clerk  of  Bristol  in 
1687,  and  died  there  in  1717.        AiTtiquakiax. 


^tpliti. 


EBONY  PORTKAIT  OF  LOUIS  XVI.:  WALTER 
BLAKE  KIRWAN. 

(4'h  S.  ix.  54.) 

CrwRM  in  "N.  &  Q."  has  an  interesting  refer- 
ence to  an  ebony  portrait  of  Tjouis  XVI.,  for- 
merly belonging  to  Walter  Blake  Kir  wan,  Dean 
of  Killala,  and  father  of  the  late  Dean  Kirwan  of 
Limerick,  from  whom  your  correspondent  got  it ; 
and  he  at  the  same  time  makes  reference  to 
Walter  Blake  Kirwan  himself,  and  to  his  own 
portrait,  which  was  exhibited  in  Dublin,  as  well 
as  I  remember,  at  the  National  Exhibition  in  1853, 
having  been  sent  there  by  his  son  the  Anglican  Dean 
of  Limerick,  in  whose  possession  it  always  had  been 
up  to  the  period  of  his  unexpect^^d  death  in  1868. 
It  I  am  right,  Cywrm  is  mistaken  in  some  par- 
ticulars as  to  Kirwan's  portrait.  In  that  portrait 
Kirwan  is  represented  preaching  in  aid  of  an 
orphan  society.  The  attitude  is  exceedingly  for- 
cible, impressive,  and  persuasive,  and  around  the 
pulpit  (a  rather  awkward-looking  one  indeed)  are 
ranged  a  number  of  female  orphans  in  the  old- 
fashioned  caps  and  dresses  of  a  day  long  ante- 
cedent to  that  in  which  Kirwan  pleaded  on  their 
behalf  in,  I  believe^  St  Nicholas's  or  St.  Michan's 
church  in  Dublin. 

The  Kev.  Samuel  O'SuUivan,  D.D.,  in  his 
Remains  (ii.  100,  &c.*)  gives  a  long,  curious,  and 
able  sketch  of  the  life  and  career  of  the  Dean  of 
Killala — "a  name  identified,"  he  says,  "with 
some  of  the  proudest  and  holiest  of  national  recol- 
lections." J3ut  Dr.  Samuel  O'Sullivan  entertained 
strong  prejudices  of  a  certain  kind,  and  there  were 

Earticulaxs  regarding  Walter  Dlake  Kirwan  which 
e,  either  knowing  them,  omitted  in  his  admirably 
written  sketch,  or  of  which  he  was  ignorant.  The 
Kir  wans  are  certainly  of  an  ancient  Gal  way 
family,  genuinelv  Irish.  They  may  be  traced  as 
far  back  as  Ilernnon,  the  second  son  of  Milesius. 
Walter  Dlake  Kirwan's  maternal  ancestor  was  a 
Blake,  a  descendant  of  the  Menlo  family  of  that 

^  RetHfiins  of  Rtv,  Samuel  O'Suilioarif  D.D.y  8  vols. 
Dublin,  1853. 


name.  The  Blakes,  though  insis  JBibermt  HibenU^ 
ores,  are  of  British  origin.  Dr.  0*Sulliyan  relates 
an  extraordinary  anecdote  regarding  the  intensity 
of  sympathy,  and  the  fascinating  and  irresistible 
eloquence  of  Walter  Blake  Kirwan  when  yet  a 
youth,  and  when  about  to  quit  his  country  for  the 
West  Indies,  where  a  relative  of  his  fiither  had 
large  possessions. 

Seeing  a  hardened  culprit  in  the  midst  of  a 
guanl  of  soldiers  dragged  literally  to  the  place  of 
execution  in  Galway,  the  enthusiastic  boy  leaped 
from  his  horse,  rushed  impetuously  through  the 
file  of  infantry, 

"  and  Itofore  Iiis  friends  could  rccnver  from  their  amaze- 
niont  he  was  beside  the  murderer  upon  the  scaffbld,  who 
looked  upon  him  with  a  strange  bewilderment,  and 
seemed  to  regard  an  a  messenger  from  the  other  world 
the  apparition  by  whom  he  was  accosted,  and  who,  in 
words  and  tones  which  made  themselves  be  heard,  warned 
him  of  jadfrment  to  come.  *  Idiot !  madman  !  *  he  ex* 
claimed,  seizing  the  astoumled  convict  by  the  earn, 
•  Hear  I  the  God  of  heaven  is  merciful.  Covered  as  yon 
are  with  guilt,  He  would  yet  snatch  you  as  a  brand  ffom 
the  burning  !  Your  Saviour  liveth  to  make  interoeMloa 
for  you,  as  He  did  upon  the  cross  for  the  penitent  male* 
factor !  Sec  there,*  said  he,  pointing  to  heaven,  towards 
which  the  eye^  of  the  fascinated  convict  mechanically 
followed  his  directing  hand,  and  he  then  gave  utterance 
to  the  first  burst  of  that  burning  clo<[uence  which  in  after 
years  wrought  such  miracles  ufion  his  hearers;  but 
never  a  greater  one  tiian  at  that  moment  when  it  pene- 
trated the  stony  heart  of  the  blaspiicming  mdroerer, 
whose  prayers  and  tears  and  convulsive  sobs  evinced  the 
effect  which  had  been  produced  upon  him,  and  who  met 
his  death  confessing  his  misdeeds,  and  looking  for  fbr- 
givene^s,  with  trembling  hope,  to  the  merits  and  snffier- 
ings  of  the  Redeemer." 

It  WAS  in  consequence  of  this  wonderful  incident 

that  the  then  Roman  Catholic  Archbishop  of  Ar- 

niagh  and  PrimRte  of  all  Ireland,  the  Most  Rev. 

Dr.  Anthony  Blake,  who  was  maternal  uncle  of 

voung  Kirwan's,  advised  him  to  repair  to  the 

University   of  Louvaine,  where  he  prepared  for 

and  took  holy  orders  in  the  College  of  St.  Anthony 

of  Padua  in  that  university  as  a  friar  minor  M 

the  Order  of  St.  Francis  under  the  name  of  Father 

Francis  Kirwan.     At  the  sale  of  the  late  Dean  of 

Limerick's  library  a  small  8vo  book  came  into  my 

possession,  which,  connected  as  it  is  with  the 

i  )ean  of  Killala,  deserves  particular  notice.    This 

voluuie  contains  three  tracts  in  Latin,  the  fint  of 

which  is — 

**  *  Theses  Sacne,  et  Chronolop:icje,  in  Kvan^lia,  totain 
tompus  h  nato  Christo,  us^jue  ad  ultimuin  excidium  lero- 
solimorum  comprehondentes ;  cum  questionibns  scrip- 
turisticis  inter  famosissimos  Chronologos  a^tatis,  necoM 
toto  tractatu  de  Jure  et  Justicia,  Restitutione  et  Con- 
traotihus.'  Ad  mentem  Doctoris  Subtilis,  qaas  pneside 
F.  Thoma  Johnston,  Ordinis  FK.  Minorum  Reoollecto- 
rum  S.  Scripturee  Led  ore.  Dcfendet  F.  Frandscns 
Kirwan  *  ejusdenr  Ordinis,  Lovanii,  in  Coll.  S.  Antonii 

*  In  the  handwriting  of  Walter  Blake  Kirwan,  at  the 
foot  of  the  title-page,  is  the  following  note  :—***Fra]ieii 
was  my  name  in  the  above  society.  It  is  usual  to  noeivB 
on  entrance  a  particular  Christian  name.** 


4*  S.  IX.  Feu.  M,  '72.j 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES- 


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De  Padaa  FF.  Hinort.  Hib.  Die  26  Octob.  Hor&  9  ante  et 
medio  3  post  meridiem.  Lovaoii,  Typis  Martmi  Van 
Orcrfoeke  prope  Acndemiam." 

The  above  is  the  title  of  the  firat  tract,  which 
contains  sixteen  pages.    The  second  tract  is — 

"  *  Theses  Tbenlogica'  de  dc-cera  Decalogi  pneceptid  cum 
principiia  Moralitati.n  qu»  in  antecessum  ad  eorum 
loteUif^ntiam  reriniruntiir.  Quas  pncside  F.  Patr. 
Broirne  Ordinit*  Fratrum  Min.  Kecoll.  Sacra  TheoloKiai 
Lectore.  Defender,  hora  tertiiL  post  meridiem.  F.  Fran- 
cisicua  Kirwan.  KJusd^^m  Ordinit.  Lovanii  in  Colle);io 
S.  Antonii  de  Padua  ¥F,  Min.  RecolWctorum  liiberno- 
mm  die  2*  Maij  177fi.*  Lovanii  Typis  Joannis  Francitici 
Van  Overbeke,  8ubt»igiio  Lampadis'Aurese." 

The  above  tract  contains  sixteen  pages.  The 
third  tract  is — 

**  Philotopiiia  qtiam,  pne5iide  F.  Daniele  Gaffey  Ordinis 
FF.  Minor.  Recotlect.  Piiilosopbiw  Lectore.  'Defcndet 
F.  Franciacns  Kirwan,  cjiudem  onlinia,  I^ovanii  in  <JolI. 
&  Antonii  de  Padna  FF.  Minor.  Ilib.  Die  17  Au^^usti 
1T7A,  Hora  9  auto  et  3  punt  meridiem.  Lovanii  Typis 
Uaitini  Van  Overbeke  prope  Academiain." 

The  above  tract  contains  sixteen  pages  also,  in- 
clusive of  '*  a  miiscellaneons  appendix  "  ;  and  on 
the  back  of  the  title-page  is  an  engraving  of  the 
archiepiscopal  arms  of  the  see  of  Armagh  sur- 
rounded in  a  border  with  this  legend — **  *  Ant" 
Blakb  .  Archiep'  Armac  .  et  tot*  Hib"  Primas." 

The  day  of  tne  month  in  the  three  title-pages 
18  in  manuscript.  The  volume  is  well  bound  in 
marbled  calf,  and  is  altogether  an  exceedingly 
interestinff  relic  of  one  of  the  most  eloquent  Irish- 
men of  the  last  century,  the  contemporary  and 
friend  of  Grattan,  Burke,  Yelverton,  La  Tuuche, 
&c.  &C. 

Kirwan  became  a  Protestant  and  married,  and 
got  the  deanery  of  Killala.  He  never  uttered  a 
word  by  way  of  reproach  against  his  first  faith. 
Of  him  I  belieVe  it  is  said  that,  when  about  to 
preach  his  first  sermon  aftnr  his  '^recantation  ''  in 
Dublin,  he  blesr^ed  himself  in  the  pulpit,  to  the 
evident  dismay  of  his  congregation ;  and,  instead 
of  fulminating  agaiuht  his  ancestral  belief,  he 
electrified  his  audience  with  a  discourse  which 
produced  a  wonderful  etfect  That  he  was  a  dili- 
gent and  successful  student  at  Ijouvaine  there  is 
no  doubt.  It  is  proved,  if  we  had  no  other  proof, 
in  the  production  of  the  above  tracts,  whicn  are 
ably  written,  and  which  might  be  forgotten  for 
ever  were  it  not  for  the  accidnnt  which  threw 
them  into  my  hand-*,  and  enabled  me  to  place 
them  on  record  in  "  N.  &  Q."  As  to  the  portrait 
about  which  Gvkwm  is  anxious,  I  am  sure  it  is 
in  the  pos^session  of  the  widow  of  the  late  Dean 
of  Limerick,  who  inherited  much  of  his  more  dis- 
tinguished father's  powerful  eloquence,  who  was 
io  addition  an  amiable  and  worthy  gentleman,  an 
excellent  writer,  a  larse  contributor  to  periodical 
literature,  and,  I  have  heard,  a  contributor  of  some 
**  thuider "  to  The  Times  newspaper  of  London. 
I  knew  him  well,  and  I  always  found  him  tolerant 


and  liberal  in  public  life,  and  courteous  and  friendly 
in  his  private  relations. 

I  have  reason  to  know  that  Walter  Blake 
Kirwan  studied  oratory  from  some  of  the  ancient 
and  most  approved  Chriatiun  models.  A  beautiful 
copy  of  St.  John  Chrysostom's  iSernufns  or  JfonU' 
lies,  in  3  vols,  quarto,  translated  into .  French,  is 
now  before  me :  it  was  in  the  library  of  the  late 
Dean  Kirwan :  it  contains  the  autograph  of  his 
father,  and  it  is  quite  apparent  that  it  was  a 
favourite  book  of  this  famous  preacher  when  he 
was  preparing  for  some  of  his  best  pulpit  efforts. 

Maurice  Lenihan,  M.ILLA. 

Limerick. 

ETYMOLOGY  OF  "  IIAUUOVVGATi:." 
(4'**  S.  viii.  passim ;  ix.  20.) 

Concurring  in  the  objections  of  J.  Ck.  R.  to 
the  A.-S;  hearye^  I  am  sorry  to  object  also  to  the 
G ethic  har.  Temple  and  enclosure  are  inadmis- 
sible on  the  ground  that  the  basis  of  ancient 
names  is  some  natural  landmark.  But  this  fact 
tells  in  favour  of  ard.  So  striking  a  landmark  as 
Harrow  Hill  could  not  of  moral  necessity  have 
escaped  receiving  its  proper  title.  From  the  hun- 
dreds of  examples  of  its  application  we  know  that 
that  title  would  be  ard.  if  the  hill  was  named 
from  hearye,  a  church,  whence  did  Hergest  Kidge, 
near  Kington,  get  its  name,  on  which  there  is  not, 
nor  ever  was,  a  church  P  As  evidence  that  Her- 
gest Kidge  and  Ueryes,  Harrow,  are  cognate,  and 
as  corroborative  of  my  own  view,  let  me  point 
out  that  the  stream  which  fiows  from  tlie  Hergest 
district  is  called  the  **  Arrow  River.'* 

My  objection  to  har  is  chiefly  that  it  would  not 
corrupt  into  lutrrow.  It  requires  two  consonants 
to  produce  a  spurious  Hvllable.  Monosyllables 
like  «/,  wor,  and  har  would  so  remain ;  but  let  us 
take  dm,  worlds  Aird,  and  we  shall  hear  them 
popularly  pronounced  as  elluni,  womdil,  Herod, 
Har  occurs  often  enough ;  but  for  one  har  we 
shall  find  ten  ards.  The  latter  is  Celtic,  har  a 
Gothic  loan-word  from  the  Celtic.  It  is  used  in 
names  of  later  date  and  by  the  Northmen,  whereas 
ard  belongs  to  the  earliest  nomenclature.  We 
have  exaniples  of  each  in  Harlow  and  Audley 
(Ardley)  End,  P>sex.  Another  consideration  is, 
that  ard,  like  hen,  generally  forms  the  central 
name  of  a  group.  Ard  in  llarrowgate  accounts 
for  Knaresborough,  Arkendale,  and  Hartswith, 
and  in  Harrow  for  Pinner,  us  previously  shown, 
which  har  would  not  do.  There  can  be  no  doubt 
that  Kiuner  in  Kinnerton,  &c.,  as  suggested  by 
L.  R.,  p.  407,  is  identical  with  Pinner.  Some 
tribes,  as  the  Irish,  used  A*,  and  said  mac  and  cean 
where  the  Cornish  used  p  and  said  map  and  pm. 

Dr.  Charnock's  valuable  extract  I  consider 
further  to  support  my  view.      WerharduSj    or      m 
Warherdus,  as  Lysons  gives  it,  was  the  proprietor 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«»»S.  IX.  Fbb.10,V2. 


pro  tern,  of  Harrow,  and  ought,  therefore,  accord- 
ing to  custom,  to  derive  his  name  from  the  pro- 
perty or  the  castlo  upon  it.  Now  uer  =  a  lort, 
and  I  believe  that  at  a  spot  so  favourable  as  Har- 
row churchyard  is,  it  is  morally  certain  that  one 
would  be  constructed.  Hard  is  pf  coursie  arily 
and  the  whole  name  =  Ardfoit.  If  hnr  had  hern 
U8ed,  the  name  ought  to  be  Harold,  i.  e.  Jlar-hoUl. 
Compare  Alderman  Ulfketlel,  Chron.  Florence 
Wore.  s.  A.D.  1004.  I  conctiive  that  Edgware, 
Anciently  Eggoswcre,  on  the  samf.'  range  of  heights, 
means  the  same  as  Werhard.  I  hold  that  it  re- 
fers to  a  known  British  fort  at  SuUonicce  (Cold- 
hill- waters)  on  IJrockley  Hill.  Headstone,  Har- 
row, was  anciently  Hogeston.  I  consider  Eyyes 
and  Hofjes  corruptions  of  hcan/e,  and  this  of  ard. 

Further,  in  Jurcg-ethel  (herg-at-hill)  I  discover 
another  Hare  we  atte  Hull,  and  all  but  a  demon- 
stration of  my  view.  Mersaham  and  Wa.=»singwella 
I  identify  with  Mereworth  and  Watcvingbury, 
Kent.  Wassing  =  Watering  exactly,  while  wefla 
may  refer  to  what  is  now  Pifsingwell  (L'p-heves- 
ingwell).  Compare  Evesham.  *•  On  the  north  " 
of  these  places  is  a  very  high  ridge  answering  to 
hereff-rfhcl-landf  upon  which  we  now  lind  the 
name  Hem  Place.  Assumed  the  antiquity  of  this 
name,  it  must  mean  the  same  as  Jiereg;  philology, 
moreover,  not  negativing  their  identity.  What 
then  is  Hern?  It  is  a  fiict  that  among  other 
strange  shapes  which  ard  assumes  is  that  of  am 
or  hcrne.  This  form  occurs  in  Arranmore,  Arun- 
del, Arnclilio,  Araheim,  Gi^lderland,  Harnham, 
Hemhill,  Arne,  and  Heme.  The  fair  inference  is, 
that  herHf  being  a  recognised  variation  of  ardy  it 
is  ard  which  is  represented  under  hereg  and  herga. 
I  have  identified  Gumemnaa  with  an  existinir 
name,  and  lidding  with  a  well-known  alluvial 
tract  under  a  different  n.ame,  but  they  do  not  bear 
upon  the  present  subject.  W.  B. 

Xottin;:  Ilill. 


TIlirSIZK  OV  A  DOCK. 

(4»»»  S.  ix.  07. ) 

Books  are  printed  in  sheets,  the  sizes  of  which  are 
named  according  to  the  number  and  size  of  the 
pages  in  each  sheet.  Folio  is  tlie  largest  size, 
which  contains  on  one  /orwj,  or  side  of  the  sheet,  , 
2  pages.  The  next  size  is  Qmnio,  containing  ; 
4  pages  on  one  side  of  the  sheet.  Then  follow  ' 
Octavo,  or  8po,  with  8  pages  in  the  same  spac^ ; 
Duodecimo,  12?/io,  or  Twehes,  with  12  pages;  and 
80  on  Hhno,  or  SLvteenn^  ISmo,  24mo,  32mo,  Sec, 
which  contain  on  one  form  10,  18,  24,  and  32 
pages  respectively ;  but  as  all  the  sheets  are  printed 
on  both  sides,  these  numbers  must  be  doubled  to 
give  the  actual  number  of  pages  in  each  sheet. 
Any  of  these  sizes  may  be  distinguished  by  notic- 
ing certain  printer's  marks,  which  are  placed  at 
the  bottom  of  the  first  page  of  every  sheet    They 


are  so  placed  for  the  convenience  of  the  prinCi^, 
the  folder,  and  the  binder ;  their  chief  use  being 
for  the  sake  of  convenient  reference  on  the  part  of 
the  reader.  These  marks  consist  of  the  letters  of 
the  alphabet :  the  first  sheet  is  generally  mariud 
B  (A  being  reserved  for  the  title,  contents,  &c., 
which  are  usually  printed  last)  ;  the  second  sheet 
is  marked  C,  and  so  on  throughout  the  letters  of 
the  old  Roman  alphabet,  which  did  not  contain 
the  letters  J,  V,  and  W — these  are,  therefore^ 
omitted.  When  this  alphabet  is  exhausted,  the 
twenty-third  sheet  is  eigned  AA,  op  2  A ;  the 
twentv-fourth  BB,  or  2  B;  and  so  on  to  the  end. 
The  tliird  alphabet  is  piintcd  AAA,  or  3  A,  and 
so  on. 

In  some  cases,  especially  in  books  printed  in 
France  or  CJermany,  numbers  instead  of  letten 
are  used  for  the  signatures.  If  the  work  be  is 
two  or  more  volumes,  the  number  of  the  volume 
is  added  to  each  sheet:  thus,  Vol.  ii.  B  would  be 
the  signature  of  the  first  sheet  of  the  second 
volume.  In  foreign  books  this  signature  would 
be  simply  ii.  1.  In  both  cases  the  number  of  the 
volume  is  inserted  at  the  left-hand  bottom  comer, 
and  the  letter  or  numeral  near  the  right-hand 
bottom  corner. 

The  size  of  the  book,  whether  folio,  quarto, 
octavo,  Sec,  may  be  learned  by  counting  the  num- 
ber of  pages  from  one  signature  to  the  next. 

Each  of  these  sizes  also  admits  of  many  varie* 
ties :  thus  an  octavo,  although  always  consisting' 
of  10  pages,  may  be  Boyal  8vo,  Demy  8vo,  Poel 
8vo,  C-rown  8vo,  &c.,  which  leads  to  very  great 
complication.  To  distinguish  these  compound 
terms,  a  reference  must  be  made  to  the  size  of  a 
sheet  of  the  paper  upon  which  the  book  is  printed. 
The  sizes  of  printing  papers  vary  with  the  mami- 
facturer ;  but  the  difterence  is  so  trliling,  that  the 
rule  pertaining  to  one  establishment  may  be  ac* 
cepted  as  that  of  another.  The  measurement  of 
a  sheet  of  the  various  kinds  of  printing  paper  if 
as  follows :  I^arge  News,  32  x  22  inches ;  Smatt 
News,  28  +  21;  Roval,  25x20j  Medium,  23}  x 
18};  Demy,  22J  +  18;  Post,  10  x  16j;  Copr, 
20i  X  lOi ;  *Crowo,  20  x  15;  Foolscap,  1(U  x  iS}; 
l>ott,15}xl2i. 

If  mo  is  a  l'2mo  folded? — To  answer  this  qae»* 
tion,  I  must  say  a  few  words  about  the  printing 
of  a  12mo  sheet.  The  arrangement  of  the  pagef 
of  one  side  of  a  sheet  or  of  a  form,  in  their  proper 
order,  and  the  wedging  them  up  in  an  iron  frame 
called  a  chase,  preparatory  to  their  being  printady 
is  called  imposing  a  sheet.*  In  imposing  a  sheet  of 
twelves f  or  duodecimo,  eight  pages  in  each  form 
are  arranged  together  in  the  manner  of  a  small 
dvo  sheet.  Above  these  eight  pages,  with  a  iHder 
space  between,  four  pages  are  arranged  in  eadf 
form,  fonning  what  is  called  the  offcvi.  In  fald" 
ing  the  sheet,  these  four  pages  are  first  cutoff 
and  the  remaining  eight  folded  like  a  she^t  oc 


4«k  S.  IX.  Fkb.  10,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIP:S. 


123 


octavo.  The  offcut  is  then  folded  down  the 
middle  twioe,  and  inserted  within  the  fold  of  the 
aiiLteen  page«,  thus  forming  alto«)^ther  the  re- 
quired number  twenty-four. 

In  a  sheet  of  this  kind  the  signatures  are  car- 
ried to  B  Oy  B  6  being  the  ilrst  page  of  the  oiTcut ; 
and  however  numerous  the  pages  may  be  in  a 
aheet  with  one  aignaturc,  if  they  are  all  inserted, 
they  are  continued  to  the  last  odd  page  before 
the  middle  of  the  sheet^  but  they  are  never  car- 
ried beyond  the  middle.  In  strictness  it  is  not 
necessary  to  insert  more  than  the  first  two  to  in- 
dicate the  first  fold  of  the  paper,  and  the  iirst  of 
the  offcut.  The  others  only  disfigure  the  pages, 
and  ftre  not  of  much  use  to  the  folder,  who  has 
only  to  keep  the  signatures  on  the  outside,  and 
the  paffea  must  be  folded  correctly.  In  French 
bookfl  the  first  page  of  the  offcut  is  often  indicated 
bj  some  small  mark  printed  at  the  bottom,  such 


I 


The  meaning  of  the  word  editimi^  as  applied  to 
one  book  or  many,  I  understand  to  be  the  number 
of  copies  of  a  book  printed  at  a  time. 

CUASLES  XaYLOR. 


TRANSLATIONS  OF  THE  TALMUD. 
(4'»»  S.  viii.  438.) 

Allow  me  space  in  your  columns  to  add  to  the 

list  of  translations  of  the  Talmud  a  work  that 

jromr  learned  correspcmdent  Mr.  J.  T.  Buckton 

mformed  me,  just  oefore  his  recent  decease,  was 

unknown  to  him.    He  had  given  ipuch  attention 

toOiis  subject,  and  in  1868  gave  in  <'N.  &  Q." 

tk  scheme  for  an  English  translation.    As  this 

*Vf9rk  lud  escaped  his  attention,  it  may  be  new  to 

some  of  your  readers  who  are  interested  in  this 

sulijeet.    I  mean — 

*TalBiiid   Babli,  Tmetat  Beracbotb,  mit  deutscber 
TjTabsfictguDg  oad  den  Commentaren  Bascfai  and  Jo- 
dkc"    Von  Dr.  E.  M.  Pinner,  Berlin,  1842— 

msgnificent  folio,  giving  the  Mishua  and  the 

iemasa  and  the  notes  of  Kaachi  and  Josephoth, 

n&  Tsrious  readings,  all  in  Hebrew  and  German. 

Imk  is  also  a  valuable  introduction  in  German. 

XJafbrtunately  this  work,  which  was  dedicated  to 

"^in  Emperor  of  Russia,  and  was  subscribed  for  by 

pKiBeoB  and  scholars  in  all  parts  of  the  civilised 

"^oddj  does  not  extend  beyond  Berachoth,  %,e. 

^nidietioos,  the  first  of  the  sixty-two  books  of 

tiu  Talmud.     But  so  far  as  it  goes  it  leaves 

^^^kiog  to  he  desired.    It  is  a  fact  interesting  to 

^  itodent  that  the  same  ground  is  traversed  by 

I  ^  par  L'Abb^  L.  Chiarini,  2  vols.  Leipzic. 
6  ^l»hat  Chiarini  does  not  give  the  original 
\  *i«>ww.  Hia  work,  however,  is  of  great  value, 
™  j»  gi^ea  a  nseful  introduction.  He  had 
TOdled  to  sevexal  European  dties  to  inform 
wHeif  vponTsLnndic  litenture  and  to  find  the 


i 


ure:?t  text.  The  names  of  De  Sola  and  Raphall 
ave  been  mentioned  in  your  columns,  but  with- 
out particulars.  Their  work  is  entitled  Eighteen 
Treatiies  from  the  Afishna,  translated  hi/  ltei\  D, 
A.  de  ISola  and  Rtv.  M.  J,  lidphaU.  Second  Edi- 
tion, 1845,  London.  At  a  public  discussion  of 
the  members  of  the  Synap^)»rue  on  the  subject  of 
revising  the  Liturgy  and  improving  public  wor- 
ship, some  who  took  part  in  the  discussion  were 
taunted  with  giving  partial  extracts  made  by 
Christian  writers.  lience  the  appointment  of  the 
above-named  translators.  They  give  only  eighteen 
of  the  sixty-two  chapters,  and  only  the  Mishna, 
none  of  the  Gomara  and  Commentaries.  They 
have  given  "  such  parts  of  the  Mislma  as  more 
immediatelv  relate  to  Israel  in  their  present  dis- 
persion.*' In  The  Ethics  ofUie  FaUiers  tranalaied, 
&c,  Edinburgh,  18o2,  believed  to  bo  by  the 
oriental  scholar  I^obei-t  Young,  there  is  a  brief 
but  useful  introducUou  to  the  Talmud.  The 
^'  Hebrew  Catalogue"  at  the  British  Museum  has 
valuable  texts,  &c  under  the  heading  '*  Talmud." 
If  any  of  your  readers  are  translating  any  part  of 
the  "f  almud  into  English,  may  I  ask  to  hear  from 
them  without  occupying  your  crowded  pages. 

JosiAH  Miller. 

18,  South  Parade,  Newark. 

P.S.  The  following  work  has  just  appeared  : — 

"Traitc'  des  Berakhoth  da  Talmud  de  Jerusalem  et  da 
Talmud  de  Babylon e,  traduit  pour  la  premiere  fuis  en 
frau9ai8  par  Moise  Schwab.   Paris :  Maisonneuve.*' 

M.  Schwab  purposes  translating  the  other  trea- 
tises of  the  Talmud.  His  title  seems  to  have  been 
made  in  forjetfulnesa  of  Chiarini*s  previous  trans- 
lation. 


NAPOLEON  ON  BOARD  THE  NOUTIIUMBEB- 

LAND. 

C^'**  S.  ix.  (K).) 

I  was  formerly  well  acquainted  with  the  Rus- 
sian admiral  Tchitehagoff,  whom  Napoleon,  when 
on  board  the  Northumberland,  described  as  ^'  a 
clever  fellow,  biit  not  a  good  general."  I  first 
knew  him  at  iirighton  in  1643,  and  for  seveml 
years  maintained  a  constant  intercourse  with  him. 
Our  acquaintance  was  not  begun,  indeed,  bat 
matured  and  fostered,  by  chess.  The  admiral, 
although  no  great  proficient,  took  much  pleasure 
in  the  game ;  particularly  in  the  examination  of 
difficult  positions  and  problems,  in  solving  which 
he  displayed  no  small  quickness  and  ingenuity. 
He  was  certainly  "a  clever  fellow,"  speakiiig 
English  like  a  native;  and  his  conversatioo 
abounded  in  anecdote  and  reminiscence  of  the 
stirring  events  of  which  Europe  was  the  theatre 
during  the  end  of  the  last  and  the  beginning  of 
the  present  centurv. 

Admiral  TchitchSjgoff,  as  is  well  known,  com- 
manded a  division  of  the  Russian  annj  in  the 


124 


NOTES  AND  QUERIKS. 


[4««>S.  IX.  Feb.  10.71 


Moscow  campaign,  and,  at  the  head  of  30,000 
men,  held  the  opposite  bank  of  the  Beresioa,  with 
the  object  of  barring  the  transit  of  the  French 
army.  Impressed  with  the  belief  that  Napoleon's 
intention  was  to  attempt  the  passage  at  Chabach- 
wiezi,  where  his  force  was  posted,  Tchitchagoff 
persisted  in  remaining  there,  even  after  he  had 
been  warned  of  his  mistake.  The  emperor's  real 
design,  however,  was  to  cross  at  Studieuka,  which 
he  succeeded  in  doing  with  the  most  serviceable 
part  of  the  remnant  of  his  multitudinous  array. 
I  never  heard  the  admiral  allude  to  the  affair  of 
the  Beresina  but  once,  and  that  was  one  evening 
after  I  had.  been  dining  alone  with  him.  We  had 
been  talking  about  chess;  and  the  conversation 
then  turning  on  the  Russian  campaign,  I  inad- 
vertently made  a  depreciatory  remark  on  KutosolF, 
who  had  allowed  Napoleon,  before  reaching  the 
Beresina,  to  pass  his  formidable  force  without  an 
attempt  to  impede  him.  The  good  admiral,  sip- 
ping his  glass  of  wine,  remarked  with  a  smile: 
*'  Av  !  and  thev  said  ho  checkmated  mo  too  after- 
wards." 

The  substance  of  the  above  is  taken  from  a 
little  book  of  mine  on  chess  matters,  published 
some  time  ago.*  H.  A.  Kennedy. 

Waterloo  Lodge,  Reading. 


In  the  first  volume  of  the  Memorial  de  Stunt e- 

mihie  (p.  177)  I  find  the  following:  — 

•*  Ayant  ea  une  nudiencc  particuliferc  de  TEmpereur 
Francois,  dans  le  voyago  qu'il  a  fait  t-n  Italie  eu  ISIG,  il 
y  fut  question  de  Napoleon.  L'Knipcrcur  d'Autriche  n'en 
parla  jamais  que  dans  Ics  nieilleurs  termes.  On  eut  pu 
penser,  me  disait  le  narratcur,  qu'il  le  croyait  encore 
r<?pnnnt  en  France,  et  (ju'il  ignorait  qu'il  fut  h.  Sainte- 
H^bne :  il  ne  lui  donna  jamais  d'autre  qualitication  que 
celle  de  VEmpereur  Xapoi'lon" 

Now,  it  has  alwavs  been  to  me  a  matter  of 
great  astonishment  and  regret,  for  England's  sake, 
that  in  this  particular  instance  she  showed  such 
a  vindictive  spirit,  quite  beneath  her  dignity. 
"Fair  play  is  a  jewel,"  says  the  old  adage;  and 
the  English  from  boyhood  are  wont  to  put  it  into 

Eractice,  and  never  to  strike  an  antagonist  when 
e  is  down — much  less  such  an  adversary  as  the 
great  Napoleon.  In  reading  the  late  Lord  Lyttel- 
ton*8  interesting. notes,  it  is  impossible  not  to  feel 
sore  at  the  total  want  of  common  courtesy  on  the 
part  of  all  government  ofticials,  high  or  low,  in 
addressing  and  treating  a  fallen  enemy,  who  for  a 
length  of  time  had  been  ruler  over  great  part  of 
the  world.  It  was  evidently  from  a  mot  aordre^ 
which  subsequently  came  from  high  quarters,  fi»r 
at  first  it  was  not  so.  Indeed,  Lord  Lyttelton 
tells  us :  — 

"  Ever^-body  knows  that  Bonaparte  was  received  as  an 
emperor  by  Captain  Maitland  [on  board  the  Iklleropbon], 
who  gave  up  to  him  the  after- cabin,  where  he  was  not  to 
be  intruded  upon  by  any  unbidden  guest.'' 

•  Waif*  and  Strays,  chiefly  from  the  Chess-Board, 
Im  Booth,  London,  1862. 


knowing  full  well  that  such  are  ''often  weloomert 
when  they  are  gone."  But  then  again  we  are  told: 
"  On  board  the  Northumberland,  matten  were  to 
be  placed  on  a  different  footing."  Why?  and 
wherefore  that  ill-natured  and  unbecoming  affec- 
tation, to  call  such  a  man  as  Napoleon  simply 
"Buonaparte  "  or  **  Monsieur  le  G^n^ral" — ^which, 
by  the  bye,  to  French  ears  sounds  about  as  ludi- 
crous as  if,  speaking  to  an  English  officer  of  hieh 
rank,  vou  were  to  say  '*  Mister  the  General!" 
Who  in  liUjilaud,  now-a-days,  would  ever  think 
of  calling  '•  Monsieur  le  General "  Napoleon  IIL, 
who,  in  all  your  public  press,  is  ycleped  "  The 
Emp«M'or  "  and  "  His  Majesty  "P  \Vell  might  the 
iir^t  Napoleon  exclaim  with* indignation:  '^Qu'ils 
m'appellent  comme  ils  voudront,  ils  ne  m'emp£- 
cheront  pas  d'etre  Moi."  But  Sir  George  Cock- 
bum  was  determined  to  assert  the  new  rule  by 
taking  Lord  Lyttelton,  Sir  George  Bingham, 
and  Lord  Lowther  into  the  cabin ;  and  saying, 
**  *  Won't  you  sit  down  ? '  left  us  there  VM-^-rw 
to  Bonaparte,"  without  even  presenting  them; 
which,  methinks,  was  of  very  questionable  taste. 

Napoleon  had  expressed  the  wish  to  be  allowed 
to  rt'sido  in  England,  and  to  have  an  interview 
witli  the  Ilegent ;  but  Lord  Keith  objected  to  this, 
saying,  like  an  old  tar:  '*  Before  they'd  have  been 
half-an-hour  together,  they  would  be  as  thick  aa 
two  thieves." 

As  regards  the  Empf»ror  Alexander's  sentimenti 
towards  Napoleon : — When  these  two  poweifnl 
pot«'ntate9  met  at  Erfurt,  on  one  of  the  French 
actors  at  the  play  saying  ^'L'amitit^  d'un  grand 
honimo  est  un  blenfnit  des  dieux/'  Alexander 
suddenly  turned  towards  Napoleon  and  put  out  hii 
hand  U)  him,  which  was  loudly  cheered  by  the 
whole  house. 

*'  I  remarked,"  says  Lord  Lyttelton,  <Hhat  hia 
hair,  of  a  reddish  brown  colour,  was  long,  rough,  and, 
if  the  expression  may  be  permitted,  dishevelled." 
I  have  some  of  Napoleon's  hair,  and  have  seen 
much  moi-e  of  it:  1  think  1  may  positively  aaaert 
tlint  there  was  not  a  particle  of  red  aoout  it. 
AN'liilst  on  the  quarter-deck  with  his  hat  off,  and 
by  an  .August  sunshine,  it  very  likely  acquired 
momentarily  a  warm  or  golden  tone,  but  not  red: 
nor  was  his  hair  habitually  \vhat  could  be  caUed 
long  (his  vHiiX  groffnarda  used  to  say  ''le  petit 
tondu');  but  if  Napoleon's  hair  had  become 
scarce,  it  had  never  been  rough,  but^  on  the  CODi- 
trary,  very  silken,  and  by  the  sea-breeie  would  of 
course  g('t  somewhat  **  dishevelled."  Here  is  a 
copy  of  a  letter  written  on  board  the  Bellerophon 
on  August  10, 1815,  and  addressed  to  his  ducheai 
by  Savary,  Duke  of  Kovigo,  who,  to  his  great 
sorrow,  was  not  allowed  to  share  the  fate  of 
"  Coesar  and  his  fortune,"  or  rather  misfortune:— 

"  En  fin  chbre  amie  le  sort  en  est  jet^  on  m'emmteeea 
8uire  {nc)^  je  ne  s^ais  oil,  j'auraiii  Jountf  ma  vie  poar  to 
voire  un  moment,  mais  je  ne  pais  mdnie  te  dlie  <A  la 


J 


4*  S.  IX.  Fkb.  10, 72.] 


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125 


dems  et  oomment  ta  poarraa  mVcrire,  je  n*ai  pas  besoin 
de  te  dire  2k  queHes  angoisses  mon  cccur  est  \Wt4  ;  le  tien 
te  moDtrera  le  chemin  pour  ni*en  sortire.  Je  te  renvois 
le  plas  fidel  et  le  pins  respectable  des  serviteurs,  je  desire 
qu'il  reste  pr^  dc  toi  exdusivonient  d  qui  nue  ce  soit,  tu 
auras  plaisir  h  parler  avcc  quel<iu'un  qui  ma  vu.  Je  prie 
S  .  .  .  de  t'aider  et  de  te  donncr  du  couraji:e ;  tu  en  trou- 
yeras  en  envisa^ceant  nos  enfants.  Embrassc-Ies  bien 
pour  moi.  Je  n*ai  que  le  temps  de  te  serrer  contre  mon 
coeur  et  de  te  dire,  si  c'cst  pour  la  deniiere  fuis,  que 
jasqu*^  ma  demiere  heure  ju  ne  cesserai  de  te  ch^rire. 
Je  dois  k  Jean  les  mois  dc  Juin,  Juillct  et  Aofit,  et  lui 
remets  qnatre  mille  six  cents  francs  pour  toi. 

"  Adieu,  chbrc  et  tend  re  nmie. 

Je  I'embrasse. 
"  Belleropbon,  le  16  Aoui." 

The  good  Duchesse  de  Rovigo,  in  sending  me 
this  letter  in  1830,  said:  "  Voici  la  lettre  de  mon 
mari  que  je  voua  ai  promise;  m'tStant  adresst^e 
elle  ne  pouvait  etre  signee,  mais  je  certifie  quVlle 
est  de  son  <$criture."  It  is  an  interesting  docu- 
ment.   .  P.  A.  L. 


WHITE  BIHD  FEATIIERLESS : 

(1«  S.  xi.  225,  274,  313.) 

EGGS  AS  AX  AIITICLE  OF  FOOD. 

(4"»  S.  Tii.  409,  484.) 

Your  lamented  corref«pondent  'AXitvs  (Dr. 
FiSHKR,  of  Trinity  College,  Dublin),  whose  com- 
munications were  always  looked  into  with  in- 
terest^  desired  to  be  referred  to  the  source  from 
which  Kircher  obtained  thtit  Greek  verses  printed 
ui  suprh,  p.  313,  as  he  suspected  they  are  not  free 
from  corruption.  This  information  will  perhaps 
be  acceptable  to  others,  and  I  have  much  pleasure 
in  laying  before  them  the  following  extract  from 
Jacobi  Lydii  Sermones  Conmviales  ap.  Poemotia 
a  Caspare  Barlwo  et  Coj'nelin  Boyo,  Dordraci, 
1643,  where  the  first  verse  is  thus  corrected: — 

Lydlus  subjoins — "  Aut  si  Latina  magis  capis: 

•*  Xon  habuit  pennas  volucris,  tamen  ipsa  volavit 
Desnper  in  quercus,  exutas  frondibus  altis. 
Ore  canns  aliquis,  de  cojtu  (»t  credo)  Gigantmn, 
Venlt,  ct  banc  consumpt>it  avem,  licet  ore  careret. 

"Philistor.  Latina  eju.«modi  verba  mibi  opque   cum 
GrsBcis  obscura  sunt.    Quid  dicam  nescio,  herbam  do. 
Tu  modo  interpretare. 

**  Arcbaeologus.  Doctissimi  Joacbimi  Camernrii  (Doum 
immortalem !  qua  dnctrina  viri)  griphus  est.  Autorem 
enim  silentio  prudens  prscteribam,  ne,  ut  antea,  isthoc 

Sacto  te  ad  sensnra  ejus  indaganduin  forte  manuduoerem. 
Ignificatur  autem  a  Sole  consumpta  et  liqucfacta  nix, 
qose  in  arborem  deciderat ;  quippe  cum  nix  cadit,  arbores 
foliorum  bonore  sunt  orbatse/* 

In  my  turn  I  beg  to  ask  what  work  of  Came- 
Tttrius  is  here  referred  to  ?  I  have  looked  through 
W»  asfnMonm  H  EmMematum  CeniuruB  IV. 
Fnnoof arti,  1601. 


"  Griphus  (7p«0oj),  in  its  primary  Greek  signification, 
means  a  net ;  hence  it  was  applied  to  a  kind  of  a?nigma 
(quo  irretiri  solent,  as  the  lexicographers  tell  us  ;  see 
also  Hesychius  and  Suida«,  ad  v.  4K\4\Qrt  5'  A»o  rwv 
aX«€i;Tiicwi'7p/^«i',*  Jul.  Pollux,  vi.  19),  of  which  Athe- 
•n«us  (x.  15,  Cas.  G9,  Schw.  k.t.X.)  has  left  a  very  full, 
though  in  parts  somewhat  obscure  account,  and  in  tbe 
explication  of  which  Cnsaubon  and  Schweighaeuser  have 
expended  a  profujdon  of  learning." — Encyd,  Metropol. 

We  learn  from  Clearchus  in  Athenaeus,  lib.  x. 
17,  that  the  griphi  were  enigmatical  and  obscure 
forms  of  speech  which  the  Greeks  proposed  for 
solution  at  their  symposiacs,  mingling  thus  the 
feast  of  reason  and  the  flow  of  soul,  the  nets  of 
Plato  and  Anacreon's  bowl. 

Clearchus  wrote  a  TreatUe  on  Proverbs,  in  which 
he  remarks  that  the  investigation  of  griphi, 
though  sportive  and  jocose,  is  not  alien  from  phi- 
losophy, and  that  the  ancients  showed  their  learn- 
ing in  them.  On  this  point  see  also  J.  C.  Soaliger, 
Potftices,  iii.  83.  There  are  seven  species  of  them : 
one  of  them  re?emble8  what  with  us  is  called 
**  capping  verses." 

I  must  refer  the  inquirer  to  the  Encyclopffdia 
Metropolitana  for  a  copious  article  on  this  subject, 
subjoining  authorities  and  books  of  reference  not 
there  mentioned. 

Aristophanes,  Vesprs,  v.  20.  Comp.  Becker, 
CharideSy  i.  473  (Smith's  Diet  of  Gr.  and  Rom, 
Antiq.) 

Plato,  Symposium,  This  and  the  (supposed) 
Convivtum  of  Xenophon  (see  Jowett,  i.  488)  are 
adduced  to  show  the  Greek  custom  inter  poaiia 
philmophandi.  Of.  Plutarch  us,  Macrobius  {Satur^ 
nalia,  lib.  vii.  c.  3).  Stuckii  Antiquitafes  Con^ 
vivialeSj  lib.  iii.  cap.  18 : — 

"  An,  et  quatcnus  de  rebus  seriis,  et  gravibus  et  philo- 
sopbicis  sit  inter  pocula  disserendum:  de  scrmonibus, 
problcraatibus,  ot  parabolis  conviviHlibus  Christi :  de 
lectunculis  cum  saf'ris  turn  profanis  <?t  <»lim  ot  hodie  inter 
epulas,  postque  adhiberi  solitis."     (Potter,  ut  infra.) 

Plutarch  us,  Septem  Sapicntnm  Convivtum, 
(Moraliay  Wyttenbach,  i.  40i  aqq.) 

Apuleius,  Flonda,  Delph.  p.  770.  He  wrote  a 
work  entitled  Liber  Ludicrontm  et  Griphn-wHy 
which  is  lost. 

Diogenes  Laertius,  Menage,  i.  80,  p.  55 ;  ii.  p.  52, 
de  Cleobulo  et  Cleobulina. 

"  Since  in  this  apophepmatic  and  concise  style  of  speak- 
ing the  object  was  not  to  express  the  meaning  in  a  clear 
and  intelligible  manner,  it  was  only  one  step  further 
altogether  to  conceal  it.  Hence  the  griphus  or  riddle  was 
invented  by  the  Dorians,  and,  as  well  as  the  epigram, 
was  much  improved  by  Cleobulus  the  Rhodian,  and  his 
daughter  Cleobuliua,"— MUller's  Hist,  and  Antiq.  of  the 
Doric  Race,  ii.  399. 

Eustathius  in  OdysMam,  p.  1026;  J.  J.  Iloff- 
manni    Lcvicon    Universale  i    Zedler,     Universal 


•  Cf.  Scirpus. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


1 4n«  S.  IX.  Fkb.  irf,  72L 


Lexicon  :  GyralUi  .Kniymata  (C)pp.  t.  ii.  p.  013)  ; 
Bulen^r,  Conviv.  iii.  VJi  (roferrea  to  by  Zedler) ; 
Stuckii  Antiqrutales  Convivialeft :  Vossii  Lexicon 
Ett/tnolofficum :  Ccelius  Khodiginus,  Antiq.  Led, 
xxviii.  4 ;  Potter's  Aj-chfcoloym  Grteca,  book  iv. 
ch.  XX.  ad  fincin. 

**  In  the  time  of  Plutarch  they  rarely  diHcourscd  upon  ^ 
any  serious  argument  at  public  entertainments,  whence  : 
a  discourse  being  begun  at  Nicostratus'a  hou^e,  concern- 
ing a  subject  ivhich  Avas  to  be  diMiusscd  in  the  popular 
Assembly  at  Athens,  soms  of  the  compan\',  who  had  never 
heanl  of  the  ancient  Greek  custom,  allirmed  that  it  was  j 
an  imitation  of  the  Persians  {St/mpos.  lib.  vii.  quxst.  9). 
And  this  qnetition  is  propounded  in  the  same  author 
(^SympoM,  principio\  whether  it  were  allowable  to  discourse 
philosophy'  over  their  cups  ?  Some  delighted  t<>  tell  stories 
and  to  repeat  ancient  fables  on  these  occasions :  others 
chose  to  read  some  diverting  discourse,  Itiriviv  u-wiivy  or  to 
hear  a  poem  repeated,  which  was  very  common  among 
men  of  letters.  But  no  diversion  was  more  usual  than 
that  of  propounding  and  answering  difficult  questitms. 
Such  of  these  as  were  wholh*^  designed  for  amusement 

were  termed  oiw7^oTo ;  but  those  which  farther  con- 
taincil  something  serious  and  instructive  were  called 
yplipoi, 

Grotius,  Armataiiortes  in  Judic.  xiv.  12-14. 
There  were  various  presents  and  fines  among  the 
Greeks.  The  usual  tine  imposed  upon  the  party 
who  was  beaten  in  the  -contest  of  griphi  was  a 
cup  of  Aalt  and  water,  to  be  swallowed  at  a  single 
draughty  as  we  learn  at  the  close  of  the  tenth  book 
of  Athenfcua ;  cf.  Julius  Pollux. 

I  sluill  close  these  references  with  on  extract 
from  Plato :  — 

"  All  agreed  that  drinking  was  not  to  be  the  order  of 
the  day.  Then,  said  Eryximachus,  as  you  are  all  agreed 
that  drinking  is  to  be  voluntary,  and  that  there  is  to  be 
no  compulsion,  I  move,  in  the  next  place,  that  the  flute- 
girl,  who  has  just  made  her  appearance,  be  told  to  go 
away ;  she  may  play  to  herself,  or,  if  she  has  a  mind,  to 
the  women  who  are  withiu.  I  jut  on  this  day  let  us  liave 
coDversation  instead ;  and  if  you  will  allow  me,  I  will 
tell  you  what  sort  of  conversation.  .  .  .  Mauy  sophists, 
as  for  example  the  exct.>llent  Prodicus,  have  descanted  in 
))ro8e  on  the  virtues  of  Heracles  and  other  herr>es  ;  and, 
what  is  still  more  extraordinary,  I  have  met  with  a  phi- 
losophical work  in  which  the  utility  of  aalt*  has  been 
made  the  theme  of  an  elo<iacnt  discourse,  and  many  like  I 
things  have  had  a  like  honour  bestowed  upon  thcm.^' — 
Jowett,  i.  494. 

There  are  numerous  examples  commented  on  in 
Casaubon's Ederoiiafionvif  and  in Gyraldi St/mbola, 

There  are  other  ingenious  riddles  given  by 
Lydius  besides  the  one  above  quoted. 

^  Ne  tamen  ludus  jocusque  suun,  cui  cum  honestate 
conveniat,  desit  hisue  genialibus  epulis,  agite,  griphi  et 
lenigmnta  bellariis  nostris  gratiam  ac  vcuustatem,  nobis 
vero  Toluptattem  conciiient.  Etenim  non  conteranendi 
autoree  in  eis  iagenii  vires  exerouerunt.  Quorum  florem 
<lecerpcro  utile  ac  jucundum  fucrit." 

One  of  theeo  is  illustrated  by  a  passage  from 


Pliny,  which  furui<«hes  an  answer  to  a  qneiy  dbout 
eggs  as  an  article  of  food : — 

'*  Flinium  audi :  Nullus,  inqnit,  eat  alios  ciboi  ^ni  in 
ngritudine  uiagis  alat,  nec^ne  ooeret,  •imolqne  Tim  potas 
ac  cibi  habeat.*'    [Lib.  xxix.  c.  1 1.] 

lie  cites  also  on  the  same  subject  Ileradides 
Tarentiuus  in  Afhcfiants,  lib.  ii.  cap.  60,  &c. 

In  the  'AvSoKo-iia  H.  Stepha'ii,  1506,  ad  fineniy 
there  are  six  ^E/wiypdfifiara  y^t^uhi.  Dr.  Gilly,  in 
Vigihntin$  and  his  TimeSy  suspects  Ausonius  not 
to  have  been  a  sincere  Christian  from  his  trifling 
on  the  subject  of  the  Trinity  in  his  Griphut  Ter- 
narii  Numeri. 

I  should  be  much  obliged  if  vou  or  one  of  yooT 
numerous  correspondents  woulcf  kindly  inform  me 
where  there  is  to  be  found  an  account  of  a  cere- 
mony mentioned  by  Dr.  Dee  :  — 

^  In  that  College  (Trinity)  also  by  my  advice  ftOfl  by 
my  endeavours  divers  wayes  used  with  all  the  other  Col- 
leges was  their  Christmas  Magistrate  first  naned  itA 
confirmed  an  Kmprror.  The  tirSt  was  one  Mr.  Thomas 
Dun,  a  very  goodly  man  of  person,  stature,  and  com- 
plexion, an(l  well  learned  also." 

There  U  a  humorous  description  of  Academica1|« 
Saturnalia  in  An  Account  of  the  Chridmtu  Princey^ 
as  it  was  cxJiihited  in  the  university  of  Oxford  Ia- 
the  year  1G07:  — 

**  Gaudinm  lietnm  eami)iu%  caacmus 
Hoc  idem  semper,  nee  enim  dolne 
Jam  licet,  beta;  ferix  hie  aguntur— 

Vivite  1«U.'» 

See  Misctlhmea  Asitiqita  AMgUoana^  1610,  4ia 
These  academical  titles  appear  to  have  iMsn 
borrowed  from  the  Greek  BoiriAcvf,  hc,j  and  the 
I^tin  Hex,  Modimperator,  &g.  the  King,  whoas 
business  it  was  to  determine  tiie  laws  of  good 
lellowship;  and  to  observe  whether  every  mn 
drank  his  proportion,  whence  he  was  alao  called 
"OtpBoKiiosj  Oculus,  the  Eye. 

BiBLioxnECALB.  Chethak. 


♦  See  "  N.  &  Q."  2nd  S.  x.  10, 198 ;  LilU  Greg.  Gvfaldi 
^$ihagonB  Symbola,    (Opp-  t.  ii.  480.) 


Width  or  CuuRcn  Naves. — In  "N.  k  ij." 
for  Oct.  28  id  a  letter  of  enquiry  as  to  the  hseadth 
of  church  naves;  and  in  that  of  DecemlMr  9, 
another  communication,  ffiving  a  short  list  of  di* 
mensions.  To  this  list  1  beg  to  add  that  of  St 
Micbael's,  Corentrv,  which  (measured  fiomoeatn 
of  piers)  is  40  ft.  6  in.,  or  about  Sd  feet  clear,  la 
breadth  :  this  will;  I  think^  give  it  a  claim  to  Ibe 

? laced  among  the  widest  of  our  English  naree* 
'he  entire  length  of  the  church  (internally^  is 
240  ft.;  its  greatest  breadth  (inclusive  of  the  aislea 
and  side  chapels)  is  119  ft.  3  in.  The  abeanee  of 
a  chancel  arch,  added  to  its  great  loftiness  and 
lightness,  renders  this  church  one  of  l^e  most 
iniposing  of  all  our  pariah  churches.  Only  one,  I 
beueve,  which  is  that  of  6t  KichoUs,  Great  Tai^ 
mouth,  exceeds  it  in  area.  W.  G.  FkszwiL 

88,  Little  Park  Street,  Coventiy. 


4»*  S.  IX.  Feb.  10, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


127 


FOTTB  CHILDBlSy  AT  A  BlRTH  (4»*»  S.  ix.  53.) — 
I  remember  seeing  four  girls  who  were  bom  at 
the  same  time,  between  iifty  and  sixty  years  ago. 
They  were  the  children  of  a  poor  couple  in  Wor- 
cestershire,  and  all  lived  seTeral  years.     When  I 
saw  them  they  were  about  ten  years  old :  they 
were  all  out  in  the  garden  of  a  small  cottage  by 
the  side  of  the  road  from  Birmingham  to  Broms- 
KTOve.    They  were  all  dressed  alike,  and  thtir 
features  were  all  cast  in  the  same  mould.     They 
vere  all  four  well,  lively,  and  intelligent.     Can 
smy  information  be  given  as  to  how  long  these 
children  lived,  or  at  what  dates  respectively  tliey 
<Ued  ?    I  heard  of  their  being  alivo  some  years 
afterwards,  but  then  lost  sight  of  them.    As  they 
Cinaed  a  great  sensation  at  the  time  in  the  neigh- 
bourhood of  Bromsgrove,  many  pcrsions  must  be 
livbg  who  could  relate  their  subsequent  history. 

F.  C.  Ii. 

Qtoen  Mabt  (4«»  S.  viii.  433 ;  ix.  20.)— Your 
correspondent  J.  W.  &nd  not  the  Uanongate  re- 
gister is    at  fault  with  respect  to  the  date  of 
^^izzio's  death.     The  register  bears  that  Queen 
^nrj's  marriage  to  Damley  took  place  in  "July 
ISes,"  Riazio's  death  on  "9th  March,  1505,"  and 
iHunley's  murder  on  "  10th  February,  1506."    In 
^<Jotland,  prior  to  1000,  the  historical  year  ended, 
^^t  on  December  31,  but  on  March  ^4  j  March  25 
*^ing  the  first  day  of  the  year.     Accordingly,  in 
^He  case  of  the  dates  assigned  in  the  register  to 
^^Q  murders  of  Kizzio  and   Damley,  1606  and 
^507  must  be  substituted  for  1505  aid  1500  re- 
spectively, to   make   them   harmonise   with   the 
B^odem  mode  of  computation,  which  was  not  for- 
oitDy  enforced  by  sUtute  tall  1752.  E.  N. 

PanncsD  Mattsk  copied  (4*'»  S.  viii.  480 ;  ix.  19.) 
IW  paper  is  miide  by  Herr  Weigle,  Paradies- 
^potoek,  Winkler  Strass,  Niimberg.  The  only 
diificulty  is  that  the  carriage  and  cost  of  sending 
^im  the  few  shillings  required  are  rather  large  in 
proportion.  His  letter  to  me  cost  Od ;  then  there 
Would  be  paying  a  banker  to  transmit  it  3«.  or  4«., 
M  then  the  question  of  conveyance  arises.  I 
'bAold  be  very  glad  to  join  any  one  in  getting 
f^ioe  of  the  paper.  Two  months  ago  I  might 
°^ve  fetched  it,  in  going  to  or  returning  from 
'^r-Ammergau.  C.  F.  Bt.ACKBURN. 

li.  B.  P.  should  be  thanked  for  his  commuuica- 
^^tt.  There  ofiust  be  many  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q." 
^ho  will  perhaps  thank  me  too  if  I  ask  in  their 
^e  th*t  he  wiU  further  oblige  us  by  translating 
"^^ih»  Bayerischetlndugirie  the  details  of  the 
P'jpMi.  Habby  Napieb  Dbapeb. 

IhibUn, 

Ctoi  iob  RHntuMAiiSM  (4^»»  S.  viii.  606;  ix.  26.) 
itiQ  eanying  of  a  potato  in  the  pocket  as  a  cure 
toitheomatim  is  still  practised  amongst  the  Nor- 


folk peasantry,  and  I  was  told  by  a  clergyman 
about  two  years  ago  that  a  labourer  in  his  parish 
took  one  from  his  pocket  and  asked  him  if  he 
could  tell  what  it  wa.s.  It  was  so  shrivelled  up 
that  the  rector  could  not  imagine  what  it  could 
be,  and  he  was  then  told  it  was  a  potato,  which 
he  had  long  carried  about  with  him  to  cure  the 
rheurruiticf.  George  Raysok. 

Gowlwyn  House,  Pulham. 

II A  HO  (4^''  S.  viii.  21,  passim,  550.) — Does  Ma. 
CiiARyocK  attach  no  importance  whatever  to  hb- 
toric  truth  ?  The  original  name  of  the  conqueror 
of  Normandy  was  the  Xorse  UnUfr,  "  Ilrolf  the 
ganger ";  afterwards  changed  to  Kolf,  or  Ilolph, 
and  Hollo.  Under  any  conceivable  explanation 
of  the  term  harOj  what  possible  connection  can 
this  have  with  the  name  Riidolph  corrupted  to 
Randolph,  if  indeed  the  latter  could  be  a  corrup- 
tion of  the  former  ?  Ed.  Constantixb. 

Ax  OLD  Song  in  praise  of  Beep  (4"'  S.  ix. 
53.)— The  3i>ng  quoted  by  Mr.  R.  W.  II.  Nash 
is  by  my  grandfather,  Charles  Dibdin,  Jun.  I 
find  it  on  p.  00  of  a  little  volume  entitled  — 

**  The  ^rtnff;  Smith,  or  Rif^marole  Repository  :  con- 
t.tining  P«>imlar  Song9,  Comic  and  Serioad.  .  .  .  The 
whole  written  by  0.  Dibdin,  Jun.  .  .  .  London : 
Printed  for  tlie  Author  by  \V.  Glendinning,  Ilatton 
Garden.    .    .    .     1801." 

The  song  is  titled,  ''  Royal  Reasons  for  Roast 
Beef"  (tune,  ''When  Arthur  first  at  Court 
began").  [In  the  author's  pantomime  of  Ilarle^ 
quin  BeiicdichJ] 

I  cannot  ascertain  the  date  of  Ilarlequin  Bene^ 
(licWs  production. 

As  printed  in  **  N.  &  Q.*'  the  song  agrees  very 
closely  with  the  original.  There  are  a  few  varia- 
tions, but  none  of  any  note. 

E.  RI30AULT  DiBDIW. 
Edinburgh. 

This  song  has  called  up  some  lines  which  my 
mother  learnt  about  sixty  years  ago.  I  think 
"  N.  &  Q."  will  not  object  to  preserve  them :  — 

"  Brave  Betty  was  a  maiden  queen. 
Bold  and' clever !  bold  and  clever ! 
King  Philip,  then  a  Spaniard  king. 
To  court  her  did  endeavour, 
(^acen  Besg  she  frowned  and  stroked  her  raff, 
And  gave  the  mighty  Don  a  hutf : 
For  which  he  swore  her  ears  he'd  caff. 
All  with  his  grand  Armada. 

"  Sa3-a  Rin-al  Beciv  *  IH  vengeance  take  I ' 
blesiings  on  her !  blessings  on  her ! 
'  But  firKt  ril  eat  a  nice  bed^teak, 
All  with  my  muds-  of  henoor.' 
Then  to  her  admirals  she  went, 
I>rake,  Efflngham,  and  Howard  sent. 
Who  soon  dished  Philip's  armament. 
And  banged  his  grand  Armada." 

I  think  the  lines  were  originally  published,  in 
the  Independent  Whiff,  Tnos.  Katcliffb. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«k  S.  IX.  Fjeb.  10,  "Tt. 


Roman  Villa  at  Nobthleigh  (4''»  S.  viii. 
545.) — Reading  tbo  notice  of  this  villa,  it  ap- 
peared to  me  that  the  writer  was  not  aware  of 
the  '^  Account  of  the  Roman  Villa  discovered  .  .  . 
1813,  14,  15,  and  IC,"  which  was  printed,  with 
some  illustrations,  in  Skelton*s  Iiistory  of  the 
'AfUiquities  of  Oxfordshire.  The  description  was 
written  by  tne  architect,  Henry  Ilakewill,  and  it 
was  reprinted  as  a  quarto  pamphlet,  with  some 
additional  plates,  by  him  in  18^0.  lie  remarks 
that  he  had  intended  more  accurately  examining 
*'  the  west  side  of  the  quadrangle,  and  some  parts 
of  the  adjoining  ground/'  but  was  prevented  by 
circumstances  which  occurred.  W.  P. 

Shakespeariana  (4'»»  S.  viii.  220,  384,  504.)— 
King  John  (Act  lU.  Sc.  1.) — Justly  and  fairly  I 
claim  to  state  that  inamity^  as  well  as  inanity^ 
suggested  itself  to  me.  But^  as  one  word,  there 
appears  to  be  no  Shakespearian  authority  for  either, 
nor  any  lexicographical  establishment  of  mam%, 
while  inanity  is  so  established;  and,  remarkably 
enough,  as  antithetic  to  *^  grappling  vigour "  = 
hot  closeness  of  active  enmity,  **  cold  inanity^*= 
cold  avoidance,  is  somewhat  synonymous'  with 
'^  cold  inamity  "  =  passive  unfriendliness  of  spe- 
cious peace.  Still  I  iind,  in  Smart^s  Supplement 
to  the  Index  of  Common  TerminationSy  under 
"  -amour,*'  "  cn-(a)mity,  un-kindDeaSf**  which  may 
be  placed  in  juxtaposition  with  the  assumed 
inamity  of  Dr.  Johnson,  as  adduced  by  C&ow- 
sowN ;  and  henceforth  one  or  the  other  may  be- 
come lexicographically  established.  I  am  much 
pleased,  however,  to  have  given  occasion  for  the 
remarks  of  F.  R.  and  Crow  down,  and  have  no 
desire  but  for  the  adoption  of  the  proper  word  as 
intended  by  Shakespeare.  J.  Beale. 

Arms  of  Prince  Rupert  (4***  S.  ix.  38.) — 
The  arms  of  Prince  Rupert  are  surely  the  same 
as  those  of  his  father,  Pfalzgraf  and  King  of  Bohe- 
mia, being  Der  Pfalz  am  Rhein  (sable,  a  lion 
rampant,  or;  turned  to  the  left;  crowned  gules), 
quartering  Der  llertzogthum  von  Bayern  (paly 
oendy,  azure  and  argent).  These  are  the  arms 
found  on  the  contemporary  Palatinate  coins,  gene- 
rally in  separate  shields,  and  having  under  them 
on  a  third  shield  the  emblem  of  the  imperial  arch- 
sewership,  hereditary  cup-bearer  to  tne  German 
emperor  (?)  (Erztruchsessenwiirde), which  is,  gules, 
the  imperial  orb  or.  In  384  Medals  of  England 
(4to,  London,  1831 ),  at  plate  14  will  be  found  an 
oval  medal  enclosed  in  a  chased  border  having  on 
its  obverse  a  bust  of  Prince  Rupert,  partly  turned 
to  the  left,  bareheaded,  in  armour,  and  holding  a 
baton.  On  its  reverse  are  the  three  shields  men- 
tioned above,  supported  by  two  lions,  and  hav- 
ing the  Rhine- Palatine  crest  (a  lion  sitting  be- 
tween two  horns,  the  lion  as  in  the  first  shield, 
the  horns  tinctured  as  in  the  second) :  his  crest 
divides  the  initials  R.  P. 


As  Rupert  was  a  third  bod,  I  sbould  much  like 
to  know  if  he  had  any  right  to  the  Bmchaa/fi^ 
which,  I  shoiUd  imagine,  could  only  be  bome  by 
the  Prince  Palatine  of  the  time  being:  alBOL  I 
should  like  to  know  how  it  was  that  ihe  galdfln 
Palatinate  lion  f  which  now  in  Bavarian  coins  faoei 
to  the  right)  always  at  that  time  Dsced  inwardtf 
even  in  the  crest. 

In  addition  to  the  above  three  shieldBy  fbe 
Prince  Palatine  of.  the  Rhine  bore  the  following 
quarterings : — 

J'ulich,  Or,  a  lion  sable. 

Cleve,  Gules,  eight  lilies  or,  in  cross  and  aaltin 
springing  out  of  a  small  shield  argent.* 

Berg.  Argent,  a  lion  gules  crowned  azuie. 

Veldenz,  Argent,  a  lion  azure  crowned  of  Aa 
second. 

Mark.  Barry  of  six,  gules  and  argent 

Ravensberg.  Argent,  three  chevionels  guka 

Mors.  Or,  a  fess  sable. 

And  five  crests — Pfalz,  Jiilich^  Bayen,  Cle^ 
and  Mark,  and  Berg. 

NKFEBItIi 

"  The  Misletoe  Bough  "  (4"»  S.  viii.  »»«»• 
ix.  46.) — "  Genevra,"  the  short  poem  in  Bi^gtfJ 
Italy f  is  no  doubt  a  pure  fiction.  The  scene  is  W 
in  Modena,  not  in  Florence  \  and  Rogers  hiinNu 
says  in  a  note : — 

"  This  story  is,  I  believe,  founded  on  fact,  tboo^  Ai 
time  and  place  are  uncertain.  Many  old  housift  in  £>!' 
land  lay  claim  to  it."  

W.  J.  Bebkhabb  Sjchh- 

Teraple. 

"  Join  Issue  "  (4"'  S.  ix.  14.)  —  In  KniMirf  " 
Life  of  Moore  it  is  recorded  that  Lord  Gasd*" 
reagh — who,  considering  his  education  and  poW  . ' 
position,  was  less  to  be  excused  than  Btuns^ 
constantly  used  *' join  issue  "  in  the  sense  oiagrtft 
whereas  the  meaning  of  this  purely  legal  Tihum  U 
to  agree  on  what  to  diaagi'ce,  W.  T,  JL 

Sbinlield  Grove. 

Burns  is,  I  believe,  correct  in  his  use  of  tiff 
phrase  'Moin  issue,"  though  that  use  of  it  seeas 
now  to  be  obsolete.  If  Lord  Lttteltov  iriU 
turn  to  the  Correspondence  of  the  Right  Hun.  Wi^ 
Wickham  (1870,  ii.  80),  he  will  find  Lord  Malmtf- 
bury  writing  to  Mr.  Wickham :  — 

"  I  juiu  issue  'with  }'oa,  my  dear  sir,  most  perfeetif 
with  regard  to  the  no  coutidence  to  be  placed  m  ConU' 
Dental  Courts." 

WiLLLiX  WiCXHAX. 

Athenaeum. 

"Black"  or  "Bleak  Barkslet"  (4**  S.  Tift* 
451 ;  ix.  45.) — In  Jackson's  Hisioru  of  Bamdaff 
published  in  1858  (chap.  t.   p.  4u),  occurs  th^ 

following  sentence :  — 

*'  In  the  last  century  it  (Bamdqr)  was  called  BIs^^ 
Bamslcy,  or  Bleak  Bamsley,  either irom  the  amoks  oftt^ 

*  Is  this  not  an  esearbanole  ? 


*  S.  IX  Fkb.  10,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


129 


its  lofty  situation,  or  from  its  proximity  to  the 
igbbonrint;  moors,  which,  like  Blackheatb,  have  a  sooty 
peuance." 

The  late  Mr.  William  White,  of  Sheffield,  the 

)ll-known   publisher  of  county  histories    and 

rectories,  says  in  his  West  Riding  History j  under 

e  head  of  "  Bamsley/'  that  — 

it  was  anciently  called  *  Bleak  *  Bam5dey  from  the  ex- 
•ed  aitnation  of  Old  Barn.sley,  which  is  now  a  smnll 
Qage  on  the  summit  of  the  hill,  nearly  a  mile  N.W.  of 
te  town. 

If,  as  is  generally  believed,  the  hamlet  of  Old 
'own,  or  Old  Bamsley,  was  the  original  ville 
f  the  manor  of  Bamsley,  I  am  inclinea  to  think 
hat  the  designation  must  have  been  Bleak  Bams- 
er;  for  it  would  be  difficult  to  find  a  town  in  the 
West  Riding  of  Yorkshire  occupying  a  more 
l)Ieak  exposed  situation.  Though  it  is  in  the 
^tie  of  the  South  Yorkshire  coal  field,  and  is 
^e  seat  of  linen  and  other  soot-creating  indus- 
nes,  Bamsley  is,  even  in  the  present  day,  by  no 
neaos  so  black  as  many  other  towns  which  might 
96  named  in  Yorkshire.  Both  terms  are  used, 
^one  being  evidently  a  corruption  of  the  other, 
uid  the  circumstances  seem  to  indicate  that  the 
^tontion  has  been  from  Blenk'^o  Black. 

Alexander  Peterson. 
Binuley. 

The  MAsains  de  Montcalm  (4***  S.  viii.  307.) 
I UQ  sorry  that  no  one  has  come  forward  to  vin- 
dicftte  the  reputation  of  Montcalm,  as  my  very 
^ted  acquaintance  with  Choiseurs  writings  does 
Bot  entitle  me  to  compare  his  literary  merits  with 
^088  of  the  hero  of  Ticonderoga.  In  any  case 
^  information  on  which  the  prophecy  of  Ameri- 
go Independence  is  foundea  must  have  been 
toved  irom  some  person  in  Canada  or  New 
bgland.  Does  L.  M  imply  that  Montcalm  was 
ipartytothe  fraud?  for,  since  the  letters  were 
pnolished  between  I757^and  1759,  that  is,  during 
Ae  last  two  years  of  Montcalm's  life,  he  must 
^y^  heard  of  them  and  of  their  being  attiibuted 
to  Kim.  Henry  F.  roNSONST. 

HsRON  OR  Hbrne  (4">  S.  viii.  517;  ix.  45.) — 
^t  any  rate  J.  P.  will  agree  with  me  in  thinking 
^  if  heron  is  to  be  pronounced  Heme  it  would 
^  impossible  to  read  rhythmically  Sir  Walter 
^tt's  finest  poem,  Mamiion,  Who  would  recog- 
iQse— . 

«*  Sir  Hugh  the  Heron  bold, 
BaroQ  of  Twizell  and  of  Ford, 
And  Captain  of  the  Hold ; " 

^Ha  wife,  "  the  lovely  lady  Heron,"  when  styled 
^^fnel  The  few  heronri^is  remaining  in  England 
^ould^  I  ghould  eay,be  still  called  so,  not  hemries. 

John  Pickford,  M.A. 
Hungate  Street,  Pickering. 

Gtbbon  Spilsbury  (4t''  S.  viii.  628 ;  ix.  46.)— 
«i.  Splabury  obtained  three  patents  for  improve- 


ments in  the  manufacture  of  paints  and  pigments 
— the  first  in  conjunction  with  M.  F.  C.  D.  Corbaux 
and  A.  S.  Byrne,  dated  October  7, 1839,  No.  8234 ; 
the  second  in  his  own  name  alone,  dated  Nov.  2, 
1848,  No.  12,314;  and  the  third  as  joint  pa- 
tentee with  F.  W.  Emerson,  dated  September  12, 
1855,  No.  2003.  As  all  the  patents  have  expired 
the  inventions  are  public  property.  Printed 
copies  of  the  specifications  can  be  inspected,  free 
of  charge,  in  the  public  library  at  this  office ;  or 
they  can  be  purchased  in  the  sale  department  at  a 
cost  of  sixpence  for  the  first  specification,  and  four- 
pence  each  for  the  second  and  third. 

B.  WOODCROFT. 
Patent  Office. 

Oaqots  ("Notices  to  Correspondents,"  4***  S. 
viii.  622.) — If  H.  E.  A.  S.  will  write  to  me  at 
Hardwick  Vicarage,  Hay,  South  Wales,  I  may 
perhaps  be  able  to  give  him  some  information  on 
this  curious  subject.  T.  W.  Webb. 

Jane  Christian  :  a  Manx  Eve  (4*  S.  viiL 
23.) — I  have  recently  come  across  a  few  more  par- 
ticulars respecting  this  lady.  The  Manx  Sun^  in 
the  early  part  of  June,  1871,  reports  the  inquest 
which  was  held  upon  the  body  of  "  Elijah  Chris- 
tian, the  woman  of  the  wilderness."  Jane  Chris- 
tian had  occupied  with  her  two  sisters  Laburnum 
Cottage,  Douglass,  for  seven  or  eight  years.  It 
appears  there  hare  been  two  *'  Elijah  Cnristians," 
Jane  being  Elijah  the  second,  she  having  taken 
the  name,  and  in  a  measure  continued  the  pursuits 
of  an  elder  sister.  The  elder  sister,  whose  death 
took  place  some  time  before,  had  for  many  years 
assumed  the  name  of  ''Elijah,"  and  published  a 
religious  periodical,  which  was  headed  with  vari-  ' 
ous  titles,  and  was  in  its  way  quite  a  curiosity. 
Latterly  she  and  the  deceased  (Jane)  had  been 
their  own  compositors.  Upon  the  death  of  the 
first  **  Elijah  "  Jane  took  the  name,  and  continued 
the  publication  of  the  periodical  at  imcertain  in- 
tervals, but  not  with  the  same  spirit  and  success. 
It  appears  that  it  was  the  Jirst  "  Elijah  "  who  set 
up  the  new  **  Garden  of  Eden  "  with  the  man 
named  Garrett,  at  the  foot  of  Snarfell. 

Tnos.  Ratclippe. 

Christening  Bit  :  the  Bairn's  Piece  (4***  S. 
viii.  506;  ix.  47.) — The  custom  of  presenting  a 
bit  of  shortbready  or  other  kind  of  cake,  to  the  first 
person  who  meets  a  child  on  its  way  to  the  church 
for  baptism,  is  still  kept  up  in  Fife  and  in  other 
parts  of  Scotland.  Formerly  it  was  universally 
observed,  and  young  folks,  knowing  when  a  child 
was  to  be  taken  to  church,  sometimes  laid  them- 
selves in  the  way  to  obtain  the  piece.  In  conse- 
(]^uence,  however,  of  the  practice  of  private  bap- 
tism becoming  prevalent  in  the  beginning  of  the 
present  century  the  custom  gradually  became 
rarer;  but  since  the  publication  of  H.  A.'s  notice 
I  have  met  with  more  than  one  individual  who 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


li^  s.  IX.  fkb.  101,  "a. 


have  recently  had  '*  the  bairn's  piece ''  presented 
to  them.  Whatever  may  have  been  the  origin  of 
the  custom,  though,  perhaps,  like  the  bread  dis- 
tributed in  pre-reformation  times,  at  funerals  and 
ohks,  it  may  have  been  to  obtun  the  prayers  of 
the  recipient  for  the  well-being  of  the  child.  Be 
this  as  it  may,  the  custom  tended  to  beget  a  kindly 
interest  in  the  child,  and  is  certainly  preferable  to 
the  cold  isolation  which  is  too  much  the  tendency 
of  modern  life.  It  was  customary  also  (and  per- 
haps still  is  so)  to  pin  a  bit  of  shortbread  on  the 
child's  frock  before  being  taken  to  church,  and  to 
remain  during  the  ceremony.  This  piece  was 
eagerly  coveted  by  young  maidens  as  a  dreaming 
piece,  certain  to  ensure  happy  dreams  of  their 
lovers.  A.  L. 

William  Baliol  (4^  S.  vii.,  viii., /M»;»tm;  ix. 
17.)  —  In  reply  to  J.  U.  S.  I  would  say,  lat,  that 
the  date  132o  is  assigned  to  the  charter  granted 
by  Sir  John  of  Graham  to  the  monks  of  Melrose, 
by  Mr.  W.Fraser  of  Edinburgh,  who  reported  on 
the  Montrose  charters.   The  grantor  and  witnesses 
being  persons  of  note,  it  is  easy  to  approximate  to 
a  date  in  such  a  case.     2ud.  In  I3G8  *^  Thomas 
de  Jidlliol,"  who  appears  to  liave  been  the  brother 
or  brother-in-law  of  Thomas,  Earl  of  Mar,  re- 
signed into  the  hands  of  his  overlord,  William, 
Earl  of  Douglas,  nil  his  right  or  title  to  various 
lands  forming  part  of  tlie  barony  of  Cavers  (ZtZ». 
de  Metros  J  p.  430).     According  to  George  Crau- 
furd,  this  Thomas  was  tlie  grandson  of  the  Cham- 
berlain and  Isabel  de  Chilham,  and  having  no 
issue,  this  branch  ended  with  him.     The  informa- 
tion, given  by  J.  R.  S.  from  the  Public  Becord 
OfBci  is  conclusive  on  the  point  that  the  chamber- 
lain had  a  brother  William  alive  in  1292.     But 
the  word   "  clericus "  attached  to  his  name  is 
equally  conclusive  evidence  that  he  was  a  church- 
man, and  therefore  was  a  different  person  from 
the  knight  who  witnetfsed  the  Melrose  charter. 
Therefore,  if  the  elder  William   be  the  person 
buried  at  Canterbury,  it  is  clear  that  he  could 
leave  no  legitimate  descendants,  and  this  perhaps 
may  account  for  the  change  of  surname  by  the 
latter  to  Scot.     The^e  remarks  are  not  made  in 
any  disparaging  spirit  to  my  esteemed  fellow  con- 
tributor, but  follow  as  a  natural  inference  from 
the  curious  information  he  has  brought  out. 

Anglo-Scotus. 

"  AiLEEN  Aboon  "  (4t'»  S.  viii.  548.)  — If  Ma. 
Clifford  bestows  a  leisure  hour  on  the  Indices 
80  nrovidentl V  appended  to  "  N.  &  Q.,*'  he  will  be  j 
well  coached   in  the  history  and  music  of  this  ' 
Elizabethan  ballad;  in  the 'transfer  (circa  1767)  \ 
of  its  name  and  metre  to  '*  Bobiu  Adair  ";  and  in  ; 
my  endeavour  (1810)  to  reinstate  its  old  Irish 
melody.    lie  will  note  likewise  the  common  con- 
sequence of  imitations  in  the  drunken  doggrel 
which  "  welcomed  Johnny  Adair  to  Puckstown ; " 


I  but  the  Kilruddery  trash  which  he  will  meet  m 
{  the  next  page^  being  compoeed  in  a  diffnest 
I  measure,  has  no  kindred  with  the  Pueketom 
!  poetics.  There  is  a  curione  riniilarity  between 
,  the   Irish  » Aileen  Aioon "  and   the   Seottiih 

''  Lochin  var :  "  to  which  of  the  twain  beloiigi  tiie 
I  pre-autiquity,  I  leave  with  the  Joaathan  OU- 

bucks  of  either  nation. 

Edmund  Lenthajx  SwirEi 

Old  Bvgs  (4*"  S.  viil  passim;  ix.  8i.)^Jn 
Mr.  Timbs's  very  auiuf^ing  and  entertaining  wozki 
A  Century  of  Anevdotey  are  given  many  good 
stories  of  Lord  Eldon  and  other  remarkable  mea 
from  1700  to  1800.     As  the  following  anecdote  tA 
I^rd  Eldon  is  so  short,  perhaps  I  may  be  excuse  A 
for  giving  il,  especially  as  it  is  as  true  of  book' 
borrowers  now  as  it  was  in  his  lordship's  time;-    ■" 

**  Lord  Eldon  lent  two  large  volam«s  of  prtecdcnU  tC9    * 
friend,  and  could  not  recollect  to  whom.    In  ■Hwaiw 
8uch  borrowers  he  observed,  that  *  though  backward 
accounting^  tliuy  seemed  to  be  practiaed  in  boakrkttipmf^^ 

H.  W.  IL  Nash, 

Austrian   Polish   Women   WEABure  Wi 
(4*'*  S.  ix.  50.)  —  The  disease  which  cauaee 
Polish  women  to  wear  wigs  is  the  "  Plica  PoL 
nica/'  a  disease  of  the  hair  peculiar  to  P61ai».^ 
but  sometimes  found  elsewhere.    A  short 
will  be  found  in  Chambers*8  Oydcp^dia.^ 

G 

[♦  M.  D.  writes— "See  Copland's  IHcU  ^  /= 
Maliciue,  9.  v.  *  Hair/  for  a  description  of  the 
and  its  bibUo;;rapliy;"  and  IlERMiT/cominnnicaiiiig  ^ 
rcct  with  Mit.  Bamkrs,  says — **  Wlien  I  was  tnydlliar  IB 
Poland  I  observed  that  a  great  many  Jewuk  wowtn  Be^ 
their  heads  sliaved  and  wore  wjjga.    Upon  inqniiy  I M 
told  that  when  girls  belonging  to  the  aftftodbcr  Jtwiifc 
persuasion  (in  contradistinction  to  the  re/brtudJvn) 
get  married,  they  have  their  heads  shaved  and  w«ar«h> 
ever  afterwards.    Whether  this  h.i8  any  bearing  opos 
your  query  I  leave  to  you  to  decide."] 


^ti(rrnanc0it<. 

NOTES  ox  BOOHS,  £TC. 

Lortl  Byron :  a  Biography.  JHth  a  Critical  Baaetf  M  ik 
Place  in  Literature  by  Karl  Elxe.  TrandtOed  wfti  f^ 
Author* 8  Sanction,  and  Edited  with  Ablet.  W1A* 
Portrait  and  Facaimile,    (Murray.) 

The  name  of  the  author  of  this  new  biognphy  of  Byni 
must  be  familiar  to  manv  of  our  readers,  not  only  from  Ul 
**  Critical  Edition  of  Hamlet,"  but  from  the  flwt  that  hi 
has  been  selected  as  editor  of  the  **  Year-Book  of  the  Qtf 
man  Shakespeare  Society  "  ;  while  among  his  own  OOOB* 
tr}'men  he  is  distinguished  for  his  deep  and  ezlwri** 
acquaintance  with  the  language  and  Hteratare  of  EnglaiMi^ 
Our  author,  though  an  ardent  admirer  of  the  aniin  as^ 
charai;tcr  of  Byron,  is  by  no  means  a  Uind  wowMj^^ 
per  of  the  idol  which  he  has  set  np.     But  if  he  "  * 

not  unfairly  extenuate  the  failings  «  Ms  hero,  ha 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


ibly  ud  ftulanlj^  rrom  th«  fani  cnliimniM 
<t  two  or  three  yttr*  haic  acta  heaped  npun 
Kail  Else  data  not  cliiin  lo  brint;  Tonnrd 
In  ban  oblaiDdl  new  nnuriaB^  hut  bs  hu 

if  Bvron,  which  were  open  W  hlin  u  to  all 
ud  the  slulful  met  Brtistic  uu  whicb  be 
lb«tn  KiTta  H  charm  lo  the  narralit'e  wliicb 
pact,  and  well  airangtd.  }tat  (be  least  in- 
■t  of  the  book  to  many  readers  will  be  tlio 
ilm.  in  which  the  author  treats  of  Bj-ron'a 

ich  the  tranalatai  rmiarks  very  jaillj-  in 
"  he  baa  eodearoareil  (o  seize  and  flx  the 
ied  trait*  of  bis  cbararC^  in  an  analj'sia  oa 

it  is  perhaps  unrparinf;;  and  in  his  last 
hIci  to  asavn  to  Byron  the  place  which  is 

menlj  iu  the  literature  of  L'nglaml,  but  in 


■fLmigLift.    (H.  3.  King  ±  Co.) 

',  ramblinfE.  Int  not  very  closely  connected 

,ted  to  r,orrt  St.  Irfonardaaa  "one  of  the  fore- 

'  IllufitrioiB   Brolherhon*!   who    possess  the 

ifcLife."  Tbeaatbotwrileaanintliiitadeal  uf 

I  language  which  is  olttiniea  n«w  ami  9tnin{;e ; 

secret,  like  the  recipe  fur  the  tlUir  rila,  ia 

Illy  expreued.    It  is — but,  u  the  reviewer 

ays  at  tlic  windin;;  uii,  "  for  thU  wa  must 

ders  to  the  book  itself.'' 

n/  l.ticater  m  the  Eighttttth  Ceittarj.     By 

ompson.    (Leiceileii    Cnasley    ft    Clarke. 

Hamilton.) 

pson  is  favonralily  known  as  the  writer  nfa 

■and  the  hiatnry  of  I.eicc«(er  fruoi  ibi  earlimt 

year  1700.    The  ppiwnt  rolu 


r.  With  eolation  «flh'.  tan  Canhridm  MSS. 
fhlint  ikI  Jmnline  KdHiant.  By  RIcliaril 
I.A.,  fellowofl'ctethoaiie.  Cambridge.  (Cam- 
'dgbton;  London:  Bell  &  Daldy.) 
(S  nf  all  classical  readers  are  dne  to  Ifr. 
lavinKEiven  them  tbisHrst  instalment  of  Ilia 
hucrdideii,  and  w:  ean  only  hope  that  the 
or's  life  and  health  may  he  spared  * 


letea 


19  other 


le  of  bclni;  a 


n  the  present  eencnry. 

;  in  chapter  two  ih  ilelerrerl  lor  the  present, 

lleto,  while  confessinj;  that  "  the  loneer  one 

shrinks  from  dogmatism,"  atill  expnasea  a 
e  will  be  able  to  aeTrinl  the  text. 

to  tht  Mariite  ATMriam  of  the  Cryital 
rruriin  Cnmpaag.  By  W.  A.  Llurd,  Super- 
of  the  Aquarium. 

in  (itie  of  the  gnat  attrai'Iions  uf  the  Ci]-atal 
a;  the  coming  Ma-wn.  the  interest  fiilt  in  it 
BVly  promoted  by  this  little  bindbook,  in 
Lkird,  who  has  pmbalily  greater  knowledge 
Ugarienca  in  such  matters  than  any  other 
I  ttw  part  of  guide,  philosopher,  and  mend  to 
oeein  to  turn  to  good  account  their  vlait  Co 
UreesUbition. 


Jra»  JaraiattmL.  thf  Pu^or  nf  the  Dtjrrt.     By  Eupi'ne 

Pelletan.     TmMlaltil  fm*  the  Frrnrh  iy  Ucut.-Col. 

R.  P.  DeHoate.     (H.  g.  Ring  &  Co.) 

There  will  be  few  renden  of  this  little  tale  who,  while 
they  share  the  admiralinn  of  it  which  induced  Colonel 
Ue  floste  to  translate  it,  will  not  thank  the  translator  for 
introducing  them  to  this  charming  apecimen  of  Eug^e 
Pellctaa's  tender  grace,  humour,  and  high- toned  morality. 
Lnngtrilf :      Tie    U/e    of    T^mai    Geerta.     (MooD, 

Brighton.) 

For  reasons,  which  our  readers  will  understand,  wa 
conltne  ourselves  to  acknoH-ledtfiai;  the  receipt  of  thia 
pamphlet,  and  protesting  a((aiBst  the  npublicatlun  as 
truths  of  statements  which  hare  been  proved  to  be 
utterly  without  fouudation. 

BonKa  BKCirvan, — We  have  on  our  table  a  number  ' 
of  small  books  to  which  we  desire  (o  call  the  attention  of 
DDi  readers,  chough  we  can  scarcely  do  more  than  tran- 
scribe their  titles.  Foremost  among  these  is  Poetry  for 
ChiUrenby  Charia  and  Mary  La<i£,  ot  which  Pickering 
haa  Joat  iuued  an  edition  under  the  superintendenee  of 
Mr.  Richard  Heme  Shephenl.— J  re  its  better  thm  >mr 
Fathtnf  (Parker).  The  four  lerlarei  lately  ddiverwt 
bv  Canon  Gregory  in  St.  Paul's  with  so  much  eff'aeL — 
ThemghU.  Plulamphieyl  and  Mescal,  trIecUd  frvm  lie 
Work,  of  framcU  B^rr>m.  ailK  «  Kwy  na  Us  Health 
and  MeJltal  Wriliag:  by  John  Dowson,  Sl.D.  (Lewis).— 
Honyt  hy  Ijtri  ByroM  (Vinae&Ca.)—Paniditt  Irmt- 
lilaxUd  and  reilortd—t  fac-^•ilnile  reprint  of  an  secoDnt 
of  a  curious  exhibition  in  Shoe  Lane  in  16lil  ;  and  The 
Angler'!  Garlatul  nnd  Fiihtr,  Deliaht  for  1871,  with 
Rime  cuts  by  Bewick,  both  published  by  Bickera.— 
Bfinktey^i  Attromomy,  rtvieed  and  pnrtiy  re-vritten^  uitk 
additional  Chapter;  by  William  Stubb\  D.D.,  and  Franeia 
BniDOw,  Ph.  0,  Astronomer  Royal  of  Ireland  (Hodgw  & 
Co..  Dublin).—.!  CompIeleOmrH  nf  Problem  ■•  FracHeal 
Plane  Geomttry,  bn  1.  W.  Palluter  (Simpkin  h  Mar- 
sha 11).— fiy<^iiiei  reUting  to  Walet  and  the  Border  Coua- 
tin  (Caxton  Works,  OswestrT).—  ^!  fopa/oi-  Scidtce 
Bttieu,  edited  by  Henry  Laweon,  M.D.,  So.  42.  (Hard- 
wiekc),  containinR,  inter  alia,  a  paper  on  "  Psychic  Force 
and  I'aychic  Media,"  by  Mr.  Earwaker.- /)iiu>at«; 
Almanac  for  1872,  by  J.  W.  Anson,  containing  a  eurions 
mcltey  of  useful  and  oat-of-thc-way  infi)rnution  con- 
nected with  theatres  and  actors  old  and  tieir. 

Death  uf  Sik  Thohas  Piiillipib,  Bart.— It  ia 
with  deep  regret  that  ire  have  to  annonnco  the  death,  on 
Tuesilay  last  (the  Gth)  at  Thirlstane  House,  Cheltenham, 
of  iJiR  Thovab  Phit.i.tpf^  Bart,  of  Middle  Hill,  Wor- 
cealerahire.  This  accomplished  gentleman,  ona  of  (be 
nldu8t  Fellows  of  the  Societv  of  Anliquaries,  enjoye<l  an 
I'^uropean  reputation  for  the  extent  and  value  of  his  col- 
lection uf  HS9_  to  whicii  he  was  perpetoally  making 
large  and  valuable  additiiin'.  He  hul  lor  man^  yean  a 
private  prinlin);  (ireaa  at  Miildl*  Hill,  from  wluch  tfaeto 
liaa  issued  a  large  numlwr  of  heraldic,  historical,  and 
antiquarian  l>oolu.  Sir  Thomas,  who  was  educated  at 
Rugby,  and  aftcrirards  at  University  College,  Ozford, 
was  in  hia  8Ulh  year. 

Death  of  Yobk  1Ier.il[>.— The  College  of  Arms  has 
Inat  one  of  its  oldest  members,  Thomas  William  Sing, 
Kiq..  P.9.A..York  Herald.  All  wbo,  like  ourselvea,  have 
experienced  tha  caMirteay  and  iradineaB  with  which  Hr. 
King  placed  hia  curious  stores  of  information  at  the  ser- 
vice of  bia  literary  friend*,  will  ahan  the  regret  with 
which  we  announce  bia  death.  Ur,  King,  whose  haaltb 
had  long  been  fiiiliiig,  died  on  the  4th,  in  the  seventy- 
lecond  year  uf  bit  age. 

MiBana.  LosoM.ta  1  Co.  bkva  in  the  prea  Traditinu 
sail  CWitiRH  «/ CUbwfrW^  by  Mwdcanaia  K.  a  Wakott, 


132 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


kiiiC£:i4»4i$^' 


1{.D.,  containing  an  historical  sketch  of  their  changea  at 
the  Reformation ;  their  ravages  during  the  Kebellion  and 
the  Georgian  era;  ecclesiastical  **U8ea,"  ciutonis  paat 
and  present,  anecdotic  legends,  d;c. 

"  Ciiauckk'm  tomb  in  Westminster  Abbey,  which  was 
put  up  to  his  memory  by  Nicholas  Brighamin  1556,  has 
been  carefully  examiued  lately  by  Mr.  M.  H.  Bloxam. 
lie  is  positive  that  the  tomb  is  neither  of  Chaucer's  date, 
1400,  nor  Hrighum's,  but  is  late  tifteeuth-century  work, 
suy  about  MHO.  Mr.  Bloxam  suggests  that  Brigham 
bimght  the  tomb  from  among  *  alle  the  goodly  stone- 
work c  '  in  '  Powlos  Church,'  that  was  plucked  down  in 
1552,  or  from  tlio  Grey  Friar's  Church,  Newgate  Street, 
in  September,  1547,  when  all  its  *grett  stones  and 
autcres'  were  ^pullydup.'  Mr.  Bloxham  has  no  doubt 
that  the  tomb  *is  a  second-hand  monument.'" — Athe- 
mewttj  Jan.  20,  lb72.  On  reference  to  our  I**  S.  iL  142, 
there  will  be  found  the  following,  extracted  from  the 
AtheHttum  of  that  period  : — **Oue  of  the  objections  for- 
merly urged  against  taking  steps  to  restore  the  perishing 
memorial  of  the  Father  of  Riiglish  poetr\'  in  Poet's  Comer 
was,  that  it  was  not  really  his  tomb,  but  a  monument 
erecteii  to  do  honour  to  his  memory  a  century  and  a  half 
after  his  death.  An  examination,  however,  of  the  tomb 
itself  by  com[>etent  authorities  has  proved  this  objection 
to  be  unfounded,  inasmuch  as  there  can  exist  no  doubt, 
we  hear,  from  the  difference  of  workmanship,  material, 
Ac,  that  the  altar  tomb  is  the  original  tomb  of  Geoffrey 
Chaucer, — and  that  instead  of  Nicholas  Brigham  having 
erected  an  entirely  new  monument,  he  only  added  to 
that  which  then  existed  the  overhanging  ^anopy,  &c. 
So  that  the  sympathy  of  Chaucer's  admirers  is  now  in- 
vited to  the  restoration  of  what  till  now  was  really  not 
known  to  exist — Uie  original  tamb  of  the  Po<xt — as  well  as 
to  the  additions  made  to  it  by  the  affectionate  remem- 
brauce  of  Nicholas  Brigham." 


BOOKS    AND    ODD    VOLUMES 

WANTED  TO   PURCHASE. 

ParticuUri  of  Price,  ftc  of  the  followlnir  booka  to  be  nent  direct  to 
the  (centlcmcn  by  whom  they  are  reuuued,  whoae  name*  and  addreisei 
are  iriveii  fur  that  purpose  : — 

JURirs' Lkttbks,  Kdittfd  by  Heron,   tnd  Edition.    tVuls.  8vo.   1804. 
Thr  Lifm  or  I'HUEiiK  IlAHHKLh.    With  Portrait.    8vn. 
IdaMoiHa  or  J.  T.  Hbbuks  ihk  PAiirrKu.   hto.    imm. 

Wanted  by  WiUiam  J.  T/unnt.  Etn.,  40,  St.  QcorK«'i  Suuare, 
U«lgrave  lload.  S.\V. 

DiiAKKKl'BARR  in  Three  Vulumef,  laiyc  Rvo.    Illaitratcd  by  Kenny 

Meadowii,  piiblialied  alxnit  ISt.*). 
CATTKKlfOLK'n  iilfrrORT  OP  THR  GRRAT  CiVIL  WAR. 

**  The  Battle  of  the  Buyne."    A  Large  Engraving  fh>ui  the  Painting  by 
We*t.- 

Wanted  by  Rev.  John  Pirkfonl,  .V.A.,  Ilungate  Strcut,  Pickering, 

York  iih  ire. 


DlBUIK'S  DRCAMRBO!!.     t  Voli. 

Tour.    S  Vo1». 

Br  WICK'S  Bi  li  us.   s  VuU. 

HHAWk  S'rAKF«)UDSHIRB.     S  Volf. 
CoM.INKON'ri  Hon KRHRT.     S  Vuln. 
^BUMOLR'S  BKUKSUIUB.     t  Vulf. 

Wanted  by  Mr,  ThtimiB  Beet,  Borikfcller.  15,  Conduit  Street. 
Bond  Htreet,  Liondun,  W. 


T.  R Yet,     Next  week, 

II.  A.  K.—  The  ccue  o/  103  is  doubtless  that  of  Mrs. 
Strike,  communicated  by  Sir  Q.  C,  Lewis  to  »'  X.  A  Q."  8"» 
S.  i.  282 ;  the  other  is  that  of  Lieutenant  Lahrbushj  for 
which  tee  our  latt  volume,  p.  307. 

Wejind  an  increasing  disposition  among  our  Correspond- 
ents to  deluge  us  with  corrections  of  errors  and  sup- 
posed errors  in  recently  published  books  and  periodicals, 
**S.  &  Q."  wut  never  intended  to  act  as  the  Censor  of  its 
contemporaries  ;  and,  after  a  happy  and  successful  exist- 


c»e«  of  twihaMd4w€id]f 

comr§9,  I 

H.  R.— 7^  /after  »  pHsiUd  iaTlw  U/mOn  cT  At 
Laat  Two  Yean  of  tbaBeign  of  Kinff  GhAifai  L,  Jy  Ar 
Thomas  Herbert,  edit,  1818»  p.  2X7. 

Spau—  fFe  have  a  leUerfor  tkU  CbrrawadMfc  WIm 
shall  we  send  Uf 

IL'-Ckarles  Se^uMmr,  Seventh  Duke  ^  Somun^ms' 
ceeded  his  brother  m  1678,  amd  died  n  174^  My  M- 
joyed  the  title  just  eevemty  feare. 

Mi88  Macxaoan  (Ediiilraish.)~7%«  Umm  m  "Ik 
Successitm  of  the  Kings  of  Bngbusd  **  are  h^  Jekm  CUEm, 
and  will  be  found  in  his  ScripaerapuloffUi ;  or,  OoUM 
Dof^grel  Dish  of  all  Sorti,  1604,  emd  are  prbitd  k 
"  N.  d  Q."  l*  S.  xi  450. 

S.  S.  r  HjTda  Park.)— 7>c  portiais  «^tke  work  rMb^tt 
Cambridgeshire  is  takeH  from  fingland  XlIttrtnta^Mfa 
Compendiam  of  the  Topography,  ite.,  of  £b^Uii4  uA 
Wales,  lit  two  vols,    Lond,  1764^  4to. 

N.— The  Oliiey  Hymna,  in  Throe  Books,  were/ntfd' 
lithed  in  12mo.  ZoiuL  1779.  The  contribrnthae  to  Oif^ 
were  indicated  by  a  C,  prefixed  to  the  title  of  mi  kp^ 
The  two  noticed  by  our  correspondent  Anw  lAa  Mitiaf  C 

O.  II.  (Arts*  Club.)-- TAe  msatatkm  i§  from  lb  i» 
George  Crabb,  The  Boroogh,  Letter  X, 

An  Old  Collkctor  (Glasgow,)— CbaianaiiMlMiii*"' 
be  most  welcome  to  J,  W,  F,  ^Brighton. 

T.  H.  (Chelteoham.>-^«  to  tike  eomeetared  oHgk  ^ 
the  phrase,  "^He's  a  brick*'  a  jolly  good  JUhw,  wmM 
"  N.  k  Q."  2»«*  S.  iv.  247,  876  ;  v.  96  x  amd  firlkit  fmr  , 
liar  saying,  **  The  tune  the  old  cow  died  of/*  tknt  a,  ^ 
mutic  is  insufferably  bad, see**  IS. k Q.*' ^S. I S7fikMt  f 
ii.  39,  157. 

"TheTiiuee  Tailors  or  Toolet  Strbw."— l**^^ 
been  suggested  by  a  Correspondent  that  them  worthim  p^ 
figured  in  a  leading  article,  nearly  forty  yeureagOfm^^ 
John  Bull  newspaper ;  and  that  m  the  merry  daifeefWtf' 
liam  Upcott  it  was  a  standing  joke* 

T.  W.  D.—A  Short  Account  of  the  Early 


of  Gunpowder  in  England,  by   W'ee,  Hmirg  Bart, 
published  by  W,  H,  Elkins,  47.  Lombard  S&mt,  U  Mr 


The  promised  documents,  we  beiieve,  have  not — 

II.  FisuwicK.— 7^e  first  edition  (1541,  1oL)^d^ 
Latin  Bible  edited  by  John  Benedict  or  BemtU,  k  fitf 


in  France,  He  was  a  Doctor  in  JTkeeiogy,  end  ndlf 
of  St.  Innocent's  at  Paris,  where  he  died  m  1671.  A 
liible  has  been  several  times  printed,  and  att  Cic 
have  been  inserted  in  the  Index  Libror.  Exparg. 

Tom  Stewart  (Newcastle).— TTkc  IFcOuytea  .i— 
weighed  nearly  sixty  tons,  and  was  removed  from  Wgdh 
studio  to  its  jaresent  position  by  twenty-nisie  poeeerftd  ^^ 
horses  belonging  to  Messrs,  Coding's  orneery. 

T.  Q.  C— 7%e  Atalanta  Fugiens,  1618,  4Ut,ofMid^ 
Maier,  is  the  most  rare  and  curious  of  hie  workt.  Wf 
celebrated  German  alchymist  (Jbom  1568,  diod  161^ 
sacrificed  his  health,  fortune,  and  time  to  dkoee  rnMi* 
absurdities, 

Erkatum.— 4*^  S.  ix.  p.  58,  col.  iu  line  28,  ^r 
"  Library  "  read  "  Literary." 

.VOTICE. 


We  beg  leave  to  itate  that  we  decline  to  return  eomnm 
which.for  any  reaion,  we  do  not  prinii  and  to  thie  rule  we  cen 
exception. 

All  oommunlcatloni  ithould  be  addretaed  to  the  Editor  at  ths 
43.  Wellington  8treet.  W.C. 

To  all  eominuuicati.iua  nhould  be  afflzed  the  name  and  _ 
the  sender,  not  neoeMarily  for  publication,  but  as  a  goamnlce 
fUth. 


mUxemd 


iA*Ai 


.  IX-  Fkb.  17,  72.] 


XOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


133 


lONDOy,  SATURDAY,  FEBRUARY  17, 1872. 

CONTENTS.— NO  2M. 

S:  —  Jonmnys  frdni  tin*  South  of  Irolaml  to  Kndand 
Back  ill  177S.  17H4.  1791,  ITM,  133  -  M iscellaiuoiis  ; 

Lor»',  13 1-  —  Poly<Miot«^s  ar:d  Lonls  Gloufrall  ai.d 
me,  135  —  X<ilsoii'«  ceU-brntcd  Hiirnal  —  IU)itn<]  Church 
ers  in  Norfolk  and  Suliv-lk  — "  Honditary  Ilaiifrtni'U," 
rs.  BfAcy  niid  thu  Mrt-tiiips  of  the  Thn.-c  Choirs,  13G. 

ilES :  —  At, no  Bok-yn's  Bock  of  Dt'vot iiHij>,  137  —  "  Are 

llirTo  with  your  K4iir«V  "-- Borkcli'V  or  Barkley  — 
r  Bililo,  ICI.'l  —  Black  Rnin  — Booth  Family  — iH'riva- 

of  Couiitrios,  Ac  —  The  Erl  Kir.fr  —  Kroscvios  at 
h::ni  Park,  Loathrrhoa*!  —  Scott  Hamilton  —  Heraldic 
iarl«*s  Lr;;f5h  —  TlK.mas  Mowhniy  —  Myfriuwy  —  Non- 

Palar»»  —  Xoruiaii  PcM'try,  Mvstcrirs.  Ac.  —  Notices 
•d  to  Church  l>«^irs  —  Pictun  s  —  (Juotations  —  Ru- 
'  "  Susannah  and  tiit»  EUI'Tm"—  Kusm  11  Family  Arnjs 
.uli'-s:    (iuinph'on  Men  —  "Tlic  Coiiiplayiit  of  Scot- 

"  iiri;'.».  A.I).)— TiiiiP  Imjncmohal  —  Visitation  of  Lou- 
HUtt-l-  \Va."»hiuffton,  137. 

lE.S:  —  Vrrrio.  the  Painter,  140  —  Charles  Pandoc 
i-rt.  in-l)aniian./6.— "Th(^  Visilct-v  BoukIi."  u:- 
ifi  of  Tichh'«rnc,  lb.—  Milt<)n'sUsf'  of  th«-Su|ioriativ««, 
-Italian  Ptyiiiol.  srical  Dictionary —"Nam  nihil  est 
nis"—  ('Jib^on  Family  —  riunisiana— Srottish  Iron 
L'V  —  Knarr:  Wrydo  —  Wick  hams  of  .Mutcfiun  — 
n*  Dials— A  proi;os  «lc  Bottcs  — "  First  in  Talfiils," 
-lit-nvy  Inch  —  Doiith'H  Hcnd  Bultoi.s  —  Thfi  Scvrn 
ns  of  Holland  —  Dr.  \Vm.  Stmilo- Lom  yjnHros  d6- 
»«*— C<  ok>cy :  Throckmorton,  *c.— Bra>di(l :  Braydes 
»va'*ion  of  Switzerland  by  the  Epirli.sh.  —  H»'lp=l*rc- 
—  H'.Mitowski,  Huonapnrtc's  faithful  l*(l'sh  Adherent 
iron  h'ur.srMi  —Lattice  Kuollys  —  Ilt.bbcdehoy  —  Henri 
I  War-,  Ac,  IH. 

on  Ho<iks.  Ac. 

INT.VS  FKOMTIIE  SOUTH  OF  IRELAND  TO 
LAND  AND  HACK  IN  177f<,  ITS],  IT'Jl,  171M.  • 

e  liltle  ^IS.  jouiTial  from  which  the  foUow- 
articulars  aru  taken  1  hiti-ly  found  amongst 
nk  full  of  old  family  papt-ra  that  were  en- 
jd  to  my  ctu"e.  The  remarks  are  iiiteresthig 
.■11  fn.»m  ilio  description  given  of  the  diiTeront 
3  the  writt.r  pass^ed  throujrh,  and  the  occa- 

1  notice  of  the  inn.i  he  put  up  at,  as  from  his 
mt    of  certain  oljjects   and   person^   he  niet 

Trnm  a  list  of  the  London  distillers,  i&c, 

2  time,  which  are  written  in  the  cummence- 
of  tlio  book,  and  from  the   fact  that  Mr. 

roll  '•uhjiequentlv  became  a  biinker  in  Cork, 
lay  infer  that  lliose  trips  were  made  with  a 
to  e>tablish  a  connection  in  En«rland.  The 
rulls  re.-'ided  at  Curryfrlass,  in  the  county  of 
•rl'ord,  where  their  property  was  situated. 
10,  from  whence  he  set  sail  May  I'O,  1701,  is 
lutifiil  d(-mesne,  now  the  residence  of  Mr. 
?h,  on  the  north  side  of  the  river  Lee,  be- 
1  f.'ork  and  (^ur(*n>town.  The  Irish  part  of 
r-t  jMurnev  is  missiii;;.  Iv.  C 

k. 

u*:.-i!;iy  ino;-nint:,  Si-pt.  ir».  177S.  left  St.  Clare  at 
ta*:t  isix,  an 'I  c;;nio  ]>o-:t  to  Carmarthen,  ten  miles 
thi-nce  to  Llanililo,  bcin^  lil'teen  mih-s  of  the  fine.'it 
xy  I  orcr  .'^aw:  one  M'at  pariiirularly,  bch)n;;in';  to 
A  Vr'wi*,  .'.phndid  beyond  desiTiption.  Oh !  how 
ear  wife  would  onioy  this  nclKhbonrhood,  as  we  got 
on  ever}'  hedge  jb  wc  went  tlic  road,  and  when  wc 


stopped  at  the  inn  wc  got  more  than  we  wiBhed  to  load 
the  chaise  with  for  twopence.  At  hulf-pas<t  one  arrived 
at  Llandover}',  thirteen  miles  farther  on,  where  the  hoaaes 
are  all  covered  witli  a  gritty  stone  instead  of  slates ;  the 
good  woman  of  the  house  was  brewing — she  leta  her 
keeve  stand  four  ami  half  hours,  mashes  >-erv  thick,  boils 
her  worths  but  an  hour  and  a  quarter,  cools  in  brass  pans, 
and  barms  in  the  lieeve,  so  that  her  drink  can  never  be 
bueked.  From  tljcnce  we  came  to  Trecastle,  nine  miles 
further  on  toward.s  Brii^tid,  and  dined.  Plenty  of  black 
game,  as  well  as  grouse,  on  the  adjacent  momitains. 
Next  stage  we  made  was  Brecon,  where  we  stayed  all 
night ;  'ti.-*  an  old  town,  but  a  very  fine  river  runs  through 
it.  A  few  miles  at  tliis  si<le  is  a  large  oak-grove,  every 
tree  as  tall  and  .^straight  as  a  full-grown  tir.  Sep.  16, 
brpakfa.«ted  at  Abei^avenny,  where  a  loaf  of  bread  was 
brought  to  table  four  feet  and  a  half  in  circumference, 
and  ten  inches  dee^)  from  the  upper  to  the  lower  crust, 
deliciou>ly  sweet  and  well  baked.  Next  stage  Reglen,  a 
verj-  poor  place.  Next  a  verj*  pretty  little  place  called 
Chepstow,  sixteen  miles  from  our  last  stage.  Wc  dined 
thev# ;  'tis  a  very  pleasant  Htt]e  seaport,  a  ]»art  of  the 
Severn  pas>ini;  under  its  bridge,  which  is  covereil  with 
straight  planks,  with  one  pier  in  the  centre,  t ho' very 
wide.  'Ihrte  miles  from  thence  is  the  ferry,  called  *  Old 
Passage';  where  we  took  boat  and  crossed  the  Severn  to 
the  ferry-house,  near  a  league  over.  Observe,  wc  were  in 
England  when  we  passed  the  wooden  bridge,  and  a  d — d 
mtten  old  alFair  it  appears  to  be.  From  the  fi  rrv-house  to 
ilristol  is  twelve  miles,  where  we  arrived  at  one  in  the 
morning,  ami  stay'd  there  tiU  Saturday  at  1*2  o'cl.,  and 
'then  went  forwar<i  towards  Bath.  At  half  after  two  came 
to  Hath,  village  beyond  description  tine.  Sunday,  Sep.  20, 
lelt  Bath,  at  l>  a.m.  breakfasted  at  Devises ;  thence  to 
Marllwrough,  lIun,:^rford,  Newberrj*, Reading,  and  Maid- 
enhead, where  we  spent  that  night.  Sep.  21,  at  5'30, 
left.  Maidenhead,  next  stage  H<mu.'«low,  Hyde  Park  Cor- 
ner at  10,  and  from  thence  to  the  Swan  with  Two  Necks, 
Lud-lane,  where  wo  arrived  at  9  o'clock.  Sep.  22,  re- 
niove<i  from  the  Swan  to  No.  ^,  Caples  Court,  and  dined 
with  Mr.  JellVycs.  21,  2.'>,  and  20,  confined  by  an  erup- 
tion on  my  face  and  hands.  Sep.  27,  dined  at  Richmond. 
•JSth  took  phj'sic.  and  wrote  a  long  letter  to  my  wife. 
From  Sep.  2«  to  Oct.  4,  chiefiy  spent  in  walking  and 
inspecting  everi-  thing  I  thought  neci  s.*iary  or  curious. 
Ui't.  '1,  lelt  London  at  10  a.m.  for  Holyhead,  in  company 
with  Mr.  (jodet ;  passed  through  several  small  towns, 
but  of  little  note ;  slept  at  Northampton,  a  verv'  large 
ami  h.'imlnonie  phuo;  from  thence  to  Market  a  rlwrrow, 
whf-rc  a  tree  grows  against  the  wall  called  Pericantbus 
(.</«•).  F^urther  on.  we  brei«kfasted  at  Leicester,  a  most 
exi'.ellent  house.  J.  P.  Allamand  keeps  it,  'tis  culled  Three 
Crane<!  Inn.  We  dined  at  Derby  at  tlie  (4eorge,  most 
noti^rious  extortioners;  from  thence  wo  camo  to  Mat- 
l(!ek  and  -lejit,  a  niO"«t  romantic  place  and  very  pleasant; 
there  is  a  bath,  rather  c<dd,  tho'  (railed  a  hot  bath  ;  every 
thing  very  reasonable — I^ovet's  Ilou^e.  Next  we  came 
to  TivwdU  a  b— ij— d  place,  and  took  iio-^t  to  Buxton  and 
rlinod.  A  very  hot  bath  hero  and  good  inns ;  we  set  up 
i\t  the  *  Hall,' in  winch  tho  bath  is  kei)t:  slept  at  Max- 
lield.  Wwlnestlay  7th,  came  through  Knutsford,  North  wick, 
and  tijenco  to  Chester,  where  we  break fasteil  about  .  .  . 
having  rode  thirty-six  miles  this  morning,  from  thence  to 
St.  A-*  ph  thirty  "miles,  where  we  slept.  Tue-day,  Oct.  8, 
arrived  at  nigl'it  at  Holyhead,  sixtv-six  miles  Irom  the 
pl.i.ce  wc  slept.  9th,  at  12,  set  sail  in  tho  Claremount 
packet,  faptain  Taylor :  at  3  we  cleared  the  hciid,  and 
arrivetl  at  the  Hilfof  llowth,  the  entrance  of  the  har- 
bour, at  12  at  night;  at  one  in  the  morning  anchoreil 
inside,  the  narlKiur,  where  wc  staid  till  D,  then  took  boat 
and  arrived  at  Apinn  (?)  (Juay.  10th,  arrived  in  Dublin, 
and  stopped  at  Sheridan's  Hotel,  Fowns  Street. 


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NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[4ti>  &  EX.  Fbb.  17, 19. 


Thursday,  Dec.  9,  1784,  left  Curryelass  House,  and 
took  the  followiug  articles  with  me  to  Dublin  :  18  shirts 
and  12  stocks ;  1  pair  of  silk  brecchcsi,  and  waistcoat ; 
1  red  and  2  diaper  nightcaps.)  2  cambric  and  6  laun 
handkerchiefs ;  3  white,  and  2  pair  of  black  >ilk  stock- 
ings ;  1  pair  of  thread  do. ;  4  pair  of  yarn  do. ;  2  pair  of 
gauze  do. ;  3  pair  of  nankeen  breeches ;  3  white  waist- 
cbats ;  1  pair  drawers  ;  1  beaver  hood.  Slept  at  Clonmel, 
met  C:esar  Cnlclou^h  and  a  Mr.  Deverimx  there,  and 
Huppcd  together.  About  four  or  live  miles  from  Cappo- 
quin,  on  the  right-hand  side  of  the  road,  in  a  lonely  part 
of  the  mountain.'',  but  a  tolerable  improvement  in  itself, 
lives  a  Colonel  Klakeney,  who  admits  no  woman  under 
his  roof,  tho'  a  man  of  very  good  constitution  and  a  great 
sportsman.  10th,  left  Clonmel  about  half  past  nine,  and 
breakfasted  at  the  nine  mile  liouse,  a  most  rascally  place, 
and  the  worst  of  things.    Callan  seems  to  be  a  smart 

fdace ;  between  it  and  Kilkenny,  Lord  l)esart's  on  the 
eft,  a  noble  house  and  elegant  improvements;  on  the 
riglit  is  Counsellor  Fred''  Flood's,  b}'  no  means  so  respec-  i 
table  in  itsappearanec.  Lord  Desart  is  a  man  about  forty 
vears  old ;  never  will  marri-,  for  reasons  best  known  to 
himself.  Slept  at  the  *  Sheaf,'  a  very  large  and  good  inn, 
and  helped  by  very  genteel  people ;  about  thn^j  miles  on 
there  is  a  vory  fine  improvement,  Mr.  Cull'  lives  there. 
At  the  KoyalOak  there  is  a  tolerable  inn.  lietween 
Leighlin  Bridge  and  Castle  Dermot,  on  the  right-hand 
side,  lives  Sir  Chas.  Burton  of  Pollards-town,  next  him 
hurton  of  Burton  Ilall,  and  on  the  opposite  side  of  the 
road  is  Painstown,  the  seat  of  Mr.  Cooke ;  remarkably 
line  sheeji-walks  near  the  road  belonging  to  those  gentle- 
men. Castle  Dermot  seems  to  be  a  wretched  hole,  but 
one  tolerable  inn ;  liere  j'ou  pass  by  a  noble  improvement 
of  the  Earl  of  Alborough,  called  Bailin.  Sam*  Yates 
lived  at  Timolin  where  1  slept  at  the  *  Globe,'  kept  by 
Ilaly— no  ^creat  things.  Dec.  11,  left  Timolin  at  6  a.m., 
and*  arrived  at  Xaas  at  J^'S').  I  «*ould  make  no  remark 
on  the  countrj',  as  1  was  shut  up  in  my  chair  and  not  even 
daylight  to  s'ee.  Left  Naas  at  1 1  a*m.,  ami  arrived  in 
Dublin  at  2  same  day. 

"Set  sail  for  PIngland  on  Friday,  May  20,  1701,  at 
0  A.M.  from  Marino,  opposite  Passage  (^Cork),  on  board 
the  Sally  of  Mary  Port,  Cap*  Asbridge,  in  company  with 
Mr.  Westray,  Mr.  Courtney,  my  daughter,  and  her  maid 
Johaima  Walsh ;  arrived  at  Swansey  on  Saturday  even- 
ing, an<l  slept  at  Lake's,  the  Macworth  Arms,  a  very 
spacious  inn  and  well  kept.  A  great  pottery  and  very 
extensive  copper  works  up  the  river  Tawy,  and  va.st  coal 
mines,  particularly  Jiary  Smith's  coUicrj',  who  lives  near 
and  has  a  very  beautiful  demesne.  At  Aberthaw  may  be 
had  a  limestone,  nearly  of  the  same  quality  of  Tarras 
•when  burned.  Our  first  stage,  called  Neath,  you  would 
mistake  for  inland  did  you  not  see  ships  in  the  fields  near 
the  shabb}-  old  bridge,  partly  covered  with  planks  and 

f>ayed  over.  Sir  Ilarbert  Maek worth  lives  in  a  spacious 
lousc  on  a  fine  woo<led  hill  commanding  the  town ;  he 
has  a  bank  at  Swansey,  and  another  at  Neath — God 
knows,  he  may  as  well  have  one  in  Ballypoorcen.  Next 
stage,  Pyle,  met  nothing  remarkable;  Cowbridge,  eleven 
miles  on^  a  neat  inland  town — a  large  and  elegant  kitchen 
and  clean  house  at  the  Bear.  Cardiff,  Lord  Cardiff's 
castle,  a  large  fortified  Gothic  building,  greatly  spoken  of 
in  Wales,  tho'  no  great  beauty.  A  remarkably  fine  steeple 
of  Gothic  construction.  Four  miles  to  the  left  from  Cardiff 
to  Newport  is  a  very  spacious  improvement  and  house, 
belonging  to  Sir  Christopher  Tent  of  Jjondon  ;  the  house 
has  305  windows.  Mr.  Morgan  has  another  housp  at  Luke- 
peny,  and  a  most  superb  improvement  near  Newport;  at 
least  one  thousand  brace  of  deer  near  the  road,  they  arc 
quite  familiar  even  as  sheep.  The  water  is  hard  at  New- 
port ;  to  wash  clothes  in  summer  they  burn  ferns,  make 
balls  of  tho  ashes,  about  tho  size  of  a  hand-ball,  wetted 


with  water;  and  when  they  use  them  to  soften  the 
water,  they  calcine  them  and  put  abont  twdve  m  thir^ 
teen  in  a  large  tab  of  boiling  water,  which  softens  it  and 
saves  a  great  deal  of  soap.     We  slept  here;  the  tide 
rises  thirty-six  feet  perpendicolar,  and  over  a  nasty  mnddr 
river  there  is  an  old  rotten  wooden  bridge,  shocking  to  look 
at  and  dangerous  to  pacs  over ;  the  boards  on  all  laid  looser 
and  no  covering — on  the  whole,  ^tis.  a  nasty  old  town. 
Eleven  miles  from  last  stage  is  Newfeny ;  the  Seven  is 
here  three  miles  over ;  you  then  come  to  the  feny-hoose. 
Company  at  Bath:    Lord  Westmeath,  old  but  smart; 
Duke  of'Newcastlc  ;  Lord  lloath  and  Ladv,  and  old  bot 
strong ;  Lord  Charlemont,  bending  down ;  Lady  Spencer, 
a  smart  one,  and  mother  to  Lady  Duncannon ;  DutcheM 
of  Devonshire ;  Jjord  and  Lady  Duncannon ;  Bishop  of 
Lincoln  and  his  wife  Mrs.  Prcttyman  ;  Bishop  of  Norwich. 
Left  Cork  for  Dublin  and  London,  Nov.  21, 1794;  went 
by  way  of  Limerick.    Sailed  for  England  Dec.  6, 1794  j 
gv)t  to*  London  D  a.m.  Dec.  10,  1794.    Lay  that  night  at 
the  Swan  in  Lad  Lane.    Dec,ll,  came 'to  lodge  atSV 
Norfolk  Street,  Strand,  at  Mr.  Smith's ;  at  night  went, 
to  Drury  Lane  Theatre.     12th,  all  dav  executing  my 
friend's  commissions.     13th,  waited  on  Mr.  Bainbridge^. 
at  ni^ht  went  to  Co  vent  Garden  Theatre.    Sunday  Hth^^ 
dined  at  Mr.  May's,  Baker  Street,  Portman  Square.  16th^ 
wiuted  all  the  morning  for  Mr.  Peacock  ;  between  thsC^ 
and  dinner,  went  to  the  Admiralty — a  most  amazing  *tf_  "" 
all  the  afternoon.    ICth,  wrote  to  Dr.  Willis,  Tcnterdsi^^ 
Street,  Hanover  Square,  to  fix  an  hour  to  consult  respect 
ing  my  wife's  illness;  last  night,  or  rather  early 
morning,  dreamed  of  high  tempestuous  seas,  Ac. 
for  my  wife  waited  on  Dr.  Willis,  gave  him  five  guineas  i 
he  recommended  electricity,  plentiful  diet,  and  cocoa  '~ 
lieu  of  tea  and  cofiee ;  for  Ber  eyes  gentle  dashes  of  ek 
tricity  from  a  wooden  point  towards  the  eye  ;  powden^^ 
gum  guiacum  by  way  of  physic ;  left  a  card  at  Lonff- 
Donoughmore's.    19th,  got  a  note  from  Lord  Donongh^ — - 
more  saying  that  he  would  breakfast  with  me  tomorrow^ 
bought  Mrs.  Croker's  chain  for  12/.;  dined  at  a  chop-' 
house  in  the  Strand.  A  hard  frost  this  day,  the  ice  a  ftill^ 
inch  thick.    22nd,  a  thaw ;  dined  at  Cotters,  New  Kn-^ 
change.    2ord,  waited  on  Sam.  Smith,  Sons,  A  Co.,  Lom- 
bard Street,  and,  finally,  fixed  a  correspondence ;  dined. 
at  the  Golden  Cross,  Charing  Cross,  with  B.  Dobel  and. 
J.  Woodley  ;  UK>k  seat  in  the  coacli  for  Chester,  to  leave' 
London  at  four  tomorrow  evening.    24th,  left  London,. 
and  went  in  a  coach  from  the  Golden  Cross,  Charing  X* 
in  company  with  Capt.  Godfrey  ;  came  through  Coven- 
trVt  Birmingham,  <fcc. ;  arrived  at  Chester  at  6  p.m.  on 
Friday  2()th,  where  we  slept  till  12 ;  at.  one  went  into 
the  mail  coach,  and  arrived  at  Holyhead  6  on  Saturday 
evening  the  27th,  where  we  slept  that  night.    Sunday 
28th,  breakfasted  and  dined  at  the  Head ;  the  wind  quite 
fair  at  E,  yet  the  packet  waits  for  liOrd  Milton,  secretair 
to  Lord  Fitzwilliam,  who  is  expected  in  a  few  days  to 
sail  for  Ireland  as  Lord-Lieutenant,  in  the  room  of  Lord 
llarcourt.    29th,  Mondav  morning  at  2  set  sail  in  the 
Clermont,  Capt.  Taylor,  and  arrived  at  11  in  Dublin  30lh, 
and  dined  with  Mr.  Shaw.     :Jlst,  at  10*30  p.m.,  went 
into  the  mail  coach,  and  arrived  in  Cork  on  Friday  morn- 
ing Jan.  2,  1795,  and  that  day  opened  the  bank." 


MISCELLANEOUS  FOLKLORE. 

Devon  Folk  Lore  :  Mick. — If  these  creatures 
run  over  n  bed  atr  night,  they  portend  death.  1 
was  lately  visiting  a  dying  woman  in  a  Devon 
almshouse,  who  spoke  in  great  fear  of  the  maov 
mice  with  which  her  room  abounded ;  and  (added 


l*  3.  IX  Feb.  17, '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


tbe  fomple  soul])  "  I  praja  God  at  a  night  when 
I  hean  'em  tunning  alwut  to  beep  'em  down." 

PELAOirs. 

Folk  Lobe  ;  DoRSETsninr.  Gcstom. — It  is  cub- 
tomuy  in  Dorjetshire  for  the  boys  to  go  about 
at  Shrovetide  with  potaherds  to  tlirow  at  people's  • 
doors.  These  afe  tolerated,  but  the}'  are  not  ! 
allowed  to  throw  atones.  As  they  call  at  the  ' 
■various  hollies,  they  sing  this,  doggrel :  — 
*■  I'm  come  a  sl.roveinR, 

For  a  pieca  of  panuBke, 

Or  a  pipce  of  lacon, 

Or  >  little  truckle  cheese, 

Ofyoiir  own  making. 

Or  else  vour  door  tilialt  have  a  stone." 

r.  c.ii. 

Folk  Lobe:   Hahies  (i"-  S.  ix.  .^3.)— Old 

Ja*«lie8 — moiUera  of  families — say  that  if  babies 

1»^TB  strength  to  live  seven  days  they  will  most 

liJaelj  live  seven  weeks,  and  if  tliey  live  oTer  aereu 

^^"eeiia,  they  will  live  seven  months ;  and  unless 

»«>KnetbtnK  particularly  bad  happena  to  them,  they 

^*'»ll  reach  the  a^  of  seven  years,  providing  the 

■^"vea  months  are  safely  got  over.     My   graod- 

aiother,  who  bioii"-bt  up  eleven  children  out  of 

'■'^o^lre,  never  would  allow  hei  babies  to  go  out 

?^  her  peiuonal  care  until  they  were  fourteen 

t.*^ice  seven)  montlia  old— till  they  had  "stiffened 

^  their  limbs,"  as  she  said.     It  is  an  old  belief  in 

^-^eibj^ire,  that  if  a  child  cries  toudli/  at  its  birth, 

^d  lifts  up  an  open  hand,  it  ia  bom  to  command : 

P*>t  if  it  "  clutches  "  with  its  thumb  tucked  in, 

'^  vill  l«  of  a  cringing,  slaviiih  disposition,  and 

^obably  will  be  very  unhealthy  all  its  life. 

'  '  TnoMis  Eatcliffe. 

Imbh  Folk  Lobe  ;  St.  Patrick  and  CorNTY 
j  KxxRT.— ^It  is  said  that,  in  conaequence  of  the 
I  ^»t  wickedness  of  the  people  of  Kerry,  St. 
I  Wlrick  could  not  enter  the  county  to  blese  it, 
1  out  stood  upon  a  hill  overlooking  that  part  of  tbe 
I  Wnatry,  and  said,  "i  bless  county  Kerry  in  tba 
*i«tmce."  To  tell  thia  story  to  a  Kerryite  is  well 
'•Icolated  to  disturb  his  equanimity.  I  have  learnt 
^  piece  of  lore  from  an  Irishman  not  bom  in 
Keny,  and  have  often  tried  its  marvellous  elTects 
^  the  unblessed  but  withal  good-natured  people 

8ks8  or  SmiMKR.^A  few  days  ago,  in  Berk- 
™fe,  I  saw  a  bat  flying  at  midday,  and  was  told 
™^  "-\  bat  at  noon  shows  an  earlv  summer." 
^li  to-dav,  January  10,  I  heard  the  smallest 
"jOmated  willow-wren,  or  chiffcliaff,  utter  its  two 
wjMp  notes— a  bird  which  Gilbert  White  men- 
**«  «  usually  lir«t  heard  qjDout  March  20. 

MtKRocnBiB. 

Fub'*  !*«:  LoEB  Fell,  the  Kme  of  the 

j,^"*-  —At  Scarborough  a  woman  has  lately 

^"Btd  irith  obtaining  money  under  falae 


pretences  from  a  fellow- servant  by  profefsing  to 
cure  her  of  an  illness  produced  by  alioptile  spell, 
by  her  interest  with  '•  I.oi-d  Fell,  tbe  King  of  the 


I'aiiies,"  with  whom  the  r 


r  had  great  ii 


to  Lady  oft/ieLakr.)  \V.  G. 

Saikt  Valexiike's  Day  Crsioas.— The  cus- 
toms which  I  endeavour  to  describe  below  have, 
I  believe,  pretty  nearly  died  out.  I'^icy  were 
common  enough  fifl^  or  sixty  years  ago  in  Derby- 
abice.  Buma,  in  hia  Tmn  Glen,  mentions  the 
first  of  them. 

ValftUine  Dealing. — Each  young  woman  in  the 
house  would  procure  several  slips  of  paper,  and 
write  upon  them  the  names  of  the  young  men 
they  knew,  or  those  they  had  a  preference  for. 
Tbe  slips  when  ready  were  then  put  into  a  boot 
or  a  tthoe  (a  man's),  or  else  into  a  bandy  hat,  and 
then  shaken  up.  Then  each  lassie  put  in  her 
hand  aud  drew  a  slip,  wliicb  she  read  and  retitined 
until  everyone  had  drawn.  The  slips  were  then 
put  back,  and  the  drawing  done  over  again.  This 
was  done  three  times.  If  a  girl  drew  the  same 
slip  thrice,  she  was  sure  to  be  married  in  n  short 
time,  aud  to  a  person  of  the  same  name  as  that 
which  was  written  upon  the  tbrice-drawu  slip.     ' 

Looking  through  the  Keykole. — In  the  early  mom 
of  Saint  Valentine,  young  women  would  look 
tilrough  the  keyhole  of  the  house  door.  If  they 
saw  only  a  single  object  or  person,  they  certainly 
would  go  alone  all  that  year.  If  they  eaw  two 
or  more  objects  or  persons,  they  would  bo  sure  to 
bavo  B  sweetheart,  and  tbst  right  soon ;  but  if 
fortune  ao  favoured  them  that  by  chance  they  rhw 
a  cock  and  a  hen,  they  might  be  quite  cctUiu  of 
being  married  before  the  year  was  out. 

Sweeping  the  Giilt  was  another  real  old  Derhy- 
sbbe  custom.  If  n  girl  did  not  have  a  kiss,  or  if 
her  sweetheart  did  not  came  to  see  her  early  on 
this  morning,  it  was  because  she  wa.^  Jms(i/.' and 
therefore  it  was  needful  that  she  should  be  well 
swept  with  a  broom,  and  then  equally  well  kissed 
by  the  young  men  of  the  house,  and  those  living 
near,  who  used  to  go  round  to  their  intimate 
friends'  houses  to  perform  this  custom. 

Tnoa.  Eatcliffe. 


rOLYEUCTES  ASD  LORDS  GLESGAI.L  ASD 
THYNNE. 
Many  years  ago  I  was  bound  by  train  for 
Brighton,  and  having  nothing  to  read  on  my 
journey,  I  wont  into  a,  bookseller's  shop  in  King 
William  Street  (City)  and  bought  a  12mo  volume 
of  an  edition  of  Demosthenos,  then  in  course  of 
publicattoo  at  Leipsic,  by  Tauchnitz.  In  the  first 
few  miles  I  read  the  4JBt  Oration,  ii»^i  SnuSior 
Mp  TfiomSi,  of  which  this  is  the  hypothemi :  — 


136 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«»»  S.  IX.  Feb.  17,  71 


Poljeuctes,  an  Athenian^  liad  two  daughters. 
The  youn^^er  ho  first  betrothed  to  Leocmt(»i ;  and 
afterWards,  upon  some  ditl'ereuce  with  him,  to 
Spcudiiu*.  The  elder  he  gtivo  to  the  phiintifT  in 
the  cause.  Polyeuctes  died,  and  left  his  property 
to  his  daughters,  'share  and  shmi)  alike.  The 
plaintiff  pleads  that  Polyeuctes  had  promisetl  him 
forty  minn3  as  dowry,  but  that  he  had  only  re- 
ceived thirty;  that  Polyeuctes  in  his  lifetime 
acknowledged  the  debt,  and  when  near  death 
sepiirated  a  house  from  the  rest  of  his  property 
and  gave  it  in  release.  Leocratcs  claimed  this 
houst^  as  part  of  the  property  to  bo  divided.  And 
this  is  the  main  issue.  Boi^idcs  this,  the  plaintiff 
charges  Speudias  with  unlawfully  keeping  back 
from  the  common  property  certain  indebted  moneys 
of  l^olyeuctes  and  the  elder  daughter.  Speudias 
pleading  in  answer  that  he  also  had  only  received 
thirty  mintc,  the  plaintiff  replies : — Ist.  That,  if 
so,  it  was  within  the  lawful  power  of  Polyeuctes 
to  give  a  larger  dowry  to  one  daughter  than  to 
the  other.  2nd.  That  Speudias  asserts  a  falsehood : 
the  truth  being  that  he  (Speudias)  had  received 
thirty  minae  in  current  coin,  but  the  ten  in 
clothes  and  jewels  worth  more  than  ten  miliar. 

When  I  had  read  t<»  the  end,  a  gentleman 
opposite  to  me,  whiJ  had  been  retidiug  The  TimeJif 
handed  it  to  me,  saying:  **llave  you  read  this 
extraordinary  suit  between  Lord  Olengall  and 
Lord  ]*l<lvvurd  Thynue?"  I  had  not  seen  it, 
thanked  him,  and  boiran  to  read.  To  mv  amaze- 
ment  1  found  the  case,  incident  for  incident,  iden- 
tical with  that  pleaded  in  the  Athenian  court  two 
thousand  vears  before.  Of  course  there  were 
some  trifling  points  of  diilerence,  jmd  the  amount 
in  dispute  was  immeasurably  larirer.  but  the  iden- 
tity almost  exact :  and  the  coincidence  between  my 
accidental  purchase  and  the  publication  in  Ix>n- 
don  I  thinlc  so  remarkable  as  to  hr  worthy  of 
record  in  '*  N.  &  Q."  IIeeiikrt  IIandolVu. 

Kingitiore. 

Nelson's  ci:LKnRATi:n  Signal. — I  havp  often 
heard  my  brollier-in-law  Sir  Provo  William 
Parry  A\'aliis,  "  Vice-Atlmiral  of  the  United 
Kingdom,''  who  was  second  lieutenant  on  board 
the  ^'  Shannon  ''  in  her  famous  action,  and  took 
the  ship  into  Halifax  when  the  captain  was  dis- 
abled and  the  first  lieutenant  killed,  condemn  the 
misquotation  of  Nelson's  celebrated  signal.  In 
order  to  place  upon  the  pages  of  "  X.  &  Q."  a 
record  with  authority  of  the  true  funn,  I  have 
obtained  his  written  t^tatement.    It  is  as  follows : 

"With  respect  to  Nelson's  si^al  off  Trafalgar,  his 
flafi^  lieutenaut  (the  late  Captain  Paaco)  told  nie  the 
wortls  were,  *  England  oxpectfl  every  man  to  do  bii 
duty,'  not  *  will  do  * ;  but,  stranj^  to  say,  the  Admiralty 
perpetuate  the  error  by  having  the  latter  words  inscribed 
acpon  u  ahield  which  Thavc  Been." 

Hbbbebt  IUxD6Lpn. 


Rousi)  Church  Towkrs  vs  Norfolk  a»d 
Suffolk. — Can  any  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  give 
me  some  information  respecting  the  round  towers 
which  belong  to  some  of  the  smaller  of  the  old 
churches  in  this  part  of  £nj;land  ?  In  an  old  copy 
of  Blomelield's  Aorfolk  now  befere  mo*  I  find 
among  the  copious  notes  of  a  most  careful  com- 
mentator the  following  (apropos  to  Letheringset 
church),  "  Round  towers  denote  a  river  at  hand." 
This  remark,  howeter,  does  not,  I  find,  invariably 
hold  good.  Some  of  the  towers  to  which  I  refer 
are  round  for  the  most  part,  but  octagonal  in  the 
upper  portion,  as.  for  example,  in  the  church  of 
Gisleham,  Suilblk'.  F.  J.  N.  Ixi). 

IJavlicld  IlaU,  Xdrfi.lk. 

"  Hereditary  Hangmen.'" — 

**ML'He»ius.  When  you  ppcak  bwt  unto  the  purpose, 
it  w  not  worth  tlie  wajj^in;^  of  vour  beards;  and  your 
beanis  deserve  not  so  honoura'jlc  a  {jravc  as  to  stuff  a* 
botoher's  cushion,  or  to  be  entombed  in  an  ass's  pack- 
saddle.  Yet  you  must  be  sayiu<2;,  Marcius  i:%  proud ;  who» 
in  a  cheap  estimation,  is  worth  all  your  predecessors 
since  Deucalion,  thouj^h  perad venture  %onu»  of  the  best 
of  Vni  were  h'^reditarv  haiii^mon.'* — CorhlanuSf  Act  I. 
So.  1. 

Shakespeare  here  speaks  of  hereditary  hang- 
men, and  in  the  manor  of  Sloneley,  in  his  native 
county  of  Warwick,  there  were  anciently  four 
bondmen,  whereof  each  held  one  messuage  and 
one  quartron  of  land,  by  the  service  of  making  the 
gallows  and  hanging  the  thieves.  Each  of  which 
bondmen  was  to  wear  a  rc^d  clout  betwixt  his 
shoulders,  upon  his  upper  garment:  to  plow,  ivap, 
make  the  lord's  malt,  and  do  other  servile  work.'' 
lief/,  dc  Stonvlrtf  Mtt)i(tf^t.  Hlount  iii. 

Cokesavs,  in  his  Commentarv  on  the  117th  sec- 
tiDU  of  Littleton's  Tcuurv'i : — 

"  The  worst  tenun>  that  \  have  r«ad  of,  of  this  kind, 
(socage)  is  to  hold  IutkIs  to  ho  uUitr  sct'fcnitorum  voh- 
dvmnatorvm^  nt  alios  gtis/tcndio^  alios  memhroruin  dttrun- 
cntioHt,  Vf.l  aliis  iiuulis  ji.xtu  fpiiirititate:n perpvtrati  scrlerit 
puniat,  (that  is)  to  be  a  hauixman  or  rxecvitioner.  It 
sooinetli  in  ancient  tiiii»*f«  mu-Ii  nlliiK-rs  w-ti*  nnt  volunta- 
ries, nor  for  lucre  to  bt»  hired.  urdo.*s  i\wy  were  bound 
thereunto  by  tenure." — Co.  J  Alt.  8Ua. 

W.  L.  rirsuTON. 

Mrs.  JioviiT  Axn  tjif.  Mi:ETiN»i'<  of  the 
TnuEK  Choirs. —  The  liev.  Peter  Sunhouso's 
s*irmnn  on  Thv  IW'  of  MHAtch,  preached  at  Glou- 
cester in  17:2S,  is.dedicated  *'to  Mi-s.  l*ope,"  with 
an  acknowledgment  of  "how  much  is  owing'*  in 
respect  to  the  meetings  of  the  Three  Choirs — 

•*  To  the  wisdom  and  j^no  Inesa  of  your  late  excellent 
friend,  and  our  kind  and  niomoraMc  patrones.s  Mrs.  Bovey, 
who  hiid  the  fonndittittn  of  the  ^ood  work,  and,  durin,; 
her  life,  liberally  contributed  to  the  support  uf  it." 

It  appears  to  have  escaped  the  notice  of  the 
Kev.  I),.  Lvflons,  that  this  munificent  lady  was 
the  actual  founder  of  the  **  Meetings  of  the  Three 
Choirs."  Her  name  does  not  even  occur  in  his 
account  of  that  institution. 

Edward  F.  Rimdault. 


S.  IX  Feb.  17, '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


137 


/LXNE  BOLEYX'S  BOOK  OF  DEVOTIONS. 

oes  any  reader  of  "  N.  &  (i.''  kuow  what  has 
ime  of  the  littie  Toliime  described  in  the  fol- 
Dg  extract  from  the  notes  to  (teorge  AVyat's 
of  Anne  Bohyn  (London,  1817,  privately 
ted)?  — 

To  every  one  of  these  (her  ladio.s)  she  (Anne  Boleyn) 
a  litth*  book  of  devotions  neatlv  written  on  vellum, 
i)oand  in  covers  of  solid  j;(»ld  enanielU'd,  with  a  rinpj 
eh  cover  to  hanj;  it  at  their  girdles,  for  their  con- 
;  use  and  meditation. 

3ne  of  the.>«e  little  voliime?,  traditionally  said  to  have 
given  by  the  (^>ueen  when  on  the  scaffold  to  her 
idant,  one  of  the  Wyat  family,  ami  preserved  by 
1  throu;rli  several  generations,  is  described  by  VertiK* 
eing  sten  by  him  in  the  possession  of  Mr.  Wyat  of 
rterhou«c  Square  in  17'Jl.  St-e  Walpole's  Miaal- 
vtti  Antiquities,  printed  at  Strawberry  Ilill,  1772, 
n.  p.  lo. 

This  small  volume,  bound  in  gttld  richly  chased, 
n.  long  by  1,^  broad,  is  now  in  the  editor's  possession  : 
»ntentM  are  a  metrical  version  of  l.'l  psalms,  or  parts 
mlms,  of  which  the  fullowing  specimen  may  not  be 
cceptable :  — 

*  Lord  holile  thy  hnnd 

yn  thy  gn-ai  ra^e 
iStryke  me  not  .^fter 

my  dospft 
Nor  yn  thy  wrathe 

lay  t(»  my  charge 
Thu  faults  founde 

vn  mv  svnfull  hert. 

*  Ilaue  mercy  lorde 

vppon  the  weake 
My  bodie  feeble 

and  lowe  brought 
I  tremble  as 

my  bones  would  breahc 
When  thy  stroke  cumeth 

vn  mv  thought.' 

'The  volume  consists  of  104  leaves  of  vellum,  on  each  \ 
*liich  is  one  ver<e  divided  into  eight  lines:  u  blank  ' 
*«  leaf  is  between  each  pHiilm." 

ft  appears  from  a  note  ict  S.  W.  8infr«.'V*8  edi- 
0  of  Cavendish's  Life  of  Wokn/,  1?<L>5  (ii.  :2()0), 
^tin  1817  the  little  gold-bound  volume  was  in 
*  possession  of  Mr.  Triphook,  who  was  there- 
f  presumably  the  editor  of  the  privately  printed 
^  of  Aniw  Boleijn,  He  was  wronpr,  liowever, 
thmking  that  his  little  book  was  the  one  seen 
Vertue  and  described  by  Horace  AValpole; 
tliis,  which  now  belongs  to  the  Earl  of  Kom- 
fthas  never  been  out  of  4^he  Wyatt  and  Mar- 
*ni  families,,  and  ditltTs  in  manv  details  from 
^one  above  described. 

^.  Triphook*8  little  book,  though  not  the 
^^nne  traditionally  said  to  have  b«*en  given  by 
'^^  Boleyn  oh  the  scalTold  to  the  Wyat  lady, 
^  la  all  probability  have  been  presented  fiv 
^to  another  of  her  attendants. 
-«  Would  be  Teiy  inteiestmg,  if  it  could  be 


found;  to  compare  it  with  the  Wyat  book  in  Lord 
Eomney's. possession.  H.  Mabshah. 

5,  Chesterfield  Street,  Mayfair. 

f  Consult  a  note  on  Anne  Bole^ii's  little  "  Book  of  De- 
votions" in  Miss  Strickland's  lAves  of  the  Queens  of 
England,  edit.  1854,  ii.  098. — Ed.] 

"  Are  yoF  there  with  tour  Bears  ?  '' — 
^^'hat  is  the  origin  of  this  proverbial  quedtion  ? 

W.  P.  P. 

Berkeley  or  Barkley. — I  was  once  (when 
travelling  in  the  Cotswold)  shown  some  very  good 
MS.  poems,  written  by  a  person  of  the'^bove 
name,  and  who  was  said  to  be  a  valet  or  upper 
servant  in  the  family  of  a  Gloucestershire  clergyi- 
.man.  Is  anything  known  of  the  author,  and  are 
any  of  his  productions  in  print  ?  Periiaps  some 
one  resident  in  the  *'  bright  city  '*  can  answer  my 
query.  Viator  (1.) 

Holy  Bible,  1691. — In  my  note  book,  under 
the  year  1C*J1,  24mo,  I  find  a  Bible  named  as  by 
"  Parker,  London.'^  Can  vou  or  vour  readers 
give  me  any  information  rnspectiug  it  ?  I  suspect 
it  to  be  a  misprint  fur  "  Barker/'  or  elsB  to  refer 
to  one  of  the  numerous  Bibles  printed  by  the 
Oxford  University  press,  "at  the  Theater"  for 
Peter  Parker,  Guy,  Ann  Leake,  and  others. 

W.  J.  Loftie. 

[The  only  Bible  of  1091  to  be  found  in  Lea  Wilson's 
Li>t  or  the  Catalogues  of  the  British  Museum  is  the  one 
with  the  followin;^  imprint :  **  Printed  at  the  Theater  in 
Oxford,  and  arc  to  be  sold  by  Thorny  Guy,  at  the  Oxford 
Arms  in  I^)mbard-^trect,  near  Pop^-head-alley,  London, 
KiiU/*  It  is  famed  for  a  mistranslation  in' Acts  vL  3, 
**  Whom  ye  may  appoint.''] 

Black  Rain. — Some  time  in  the  past  autunm 
a  shower  of  black  rain  fell  in  the  Midland  Coun- 
ties. I  did  not  witness  it  myself,  but  several  of 
the  other  members  of  a  field  club  informed  me 
that  they  undoubtedly  did.  Strange  as  it  may 
appear,  none  of  them  took  any  steps  to  ascertain 
its  nature.  Truatin;jr  to  some  others  having  been 
more  alive  to  the  interests  of  science  than  these 
gtintlemen,  I  beg  through  your  pages  to  ask  for 
information  concerning  this  singular  phenomenon, 
which  cannot  but  prove  interesting  to  every 
reader.  T.  ]M\ 

]3ooTn  Family. — About  1070  o;.-  lOSO  the  an- 
c»?stor  of  the  present  Sir  Montague  Clioluiley,  of 
iuiston,  married  Elizabeth,  daughter  of  Bichard 
Booth,  alderman  of  London — said  to  be  descended 
fvnni  a  cadet  branch  of  the  family  of  I>ooth,  Earls 
of  U'arrington.  1  should  be  glad  of  any  clue  to 
the  ancestors  or  descendants  of  the  said  Bichard 
Booth,  or  any  other  information  about  him. 

E.  F.  I).  C. 

Derivations  of  Countries,  etc. — 1.  Wanted, 
any  book,  article,  or  any  thing  printed  whatsoever, 
where  I  can  find  the  derivations  of  the  principal 
countries  of  Europe  and  their  provinces. 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


[4*6.IX.rB».17,71 


'J.  Can  }rou  tell  me  Uie  title  of  the  beat  lihtory 

of  the  Vftudois? 

;;.  Whore  do  the  foUoning  Ikes  occur,  and 
whet  is  the  i«unl  lut't  blank  ? — 

'■  Henry  Vlll.  pultcil  down  ....  and  celt):  Hsorj-  IX. 
aliall  [lulliloua  Ituhogis  uid  bdb.'' 

\V.  A.  13.  CooiiuGE, 

Thj!  Ekl  ICinq. — Tu  n  trauslation  of  Grithe's  bal- 
Ind  by  the  late  liev.  F.  W.  linbottaon,  of  Brighton, 
lio  renders  it,  batli  in  the  title  and  throughout  bis 
version,  as  the  "KItin  King'."  lu  our  German' 
dictionaries  thi:n>  is  ao  such  word  aa  ErI.   Uilpert 

"  Ertiimlii.  I  T^ciiklmip,  a  bbuluus  Iwinfc  in  the  ancient 
li«rmsn  uo'tliiduj^y  mid  papular  Hip«ntilion>.  the  url- 

But  this  gives  us  no  information  oa  tg  bis  mytho- 
logical character  and  position,  Guthe  makes  bim 
anj-tbing  but  the  King  of  the  Pairies,  which  seems 
to  hove  bi-'en  Mr,    llobertson's   impression.     His 

Eosition  in  the  ballad  is  rather  as  the  ministe:  or 
crald  of  death.  Can  any  of  our  nianv  German 
friends  enlighten  me  I'  \V.  M.  T. 

Frescoe.'s  at  Fbtcuam  Pahk,  LEATnEitnEAD. 
At  Fetcham,  near Leatherhcad in  Surrev,is  a  large  ' 
mansion  belonging  to  Mr.  G.  D.  Ilantej,  called  ' 
Fetchara  Park.  According  to  Manninghani  and 
Bray  the  bougie  was  portly  built  by  one  of  the 
Vincent  family,  of  whom  it  was  purchased  by 
Arthur  Moore,  u  commissioner  of  trade  and  plan- 
tation.*, and  a  director  of  the  South  Sea  Company 
in  the  reign  nf  Ijueen  Anne.  This  gentleman 
enlarged  and  planted  the  park  ttbout  the  year 
1711*,  and  probiihly  added  to  the  house  at  the 
same  time,  as  ibcre  are  indications  thut  altera- 
tions have  been  made  to  the  existing  structure. 
The  walls  and  ceiling  of  the  hatl  and  the  ceiling 
of  the  principal  room  ontheupporfloor  are  painted 
in  fresco  with  mrtholngical  subjects,  very  fairly 
executed,  appari'otlv  by  a  foreign  artist,  some  of 
the  figures  being  evidently  portraits.  Is  anything 
known  as  to  the  nulhorship  of  these  works  P  I 
hare  consulted  all  the  likely  authorities,  but  can 
find  no  information  concerning  them. 

Joii:<'IIebb. 

ScoiT  Hamiltox  ia  author  of  Garibalili,  a 
drama,  18(>4  (IJelf.ut:  Jas.  Johnston,  ^>4,  High 
Street,  printer).  In  the  title-page  Mr.  S.  Hamil- 
ton is  said  to  bo  author  of  Alnioitrah,  Sacred 
Dramas,  &c.  What  are  the  titles  of  the  sacred 
dramas,  and  when  were  tbey  published  f  la  lit. 
S.  Hamilton  a  resident  in  Belfast  ?      R.  luGLis. 

IIeb.*i,iiic. — Can  any  of  your  readers  inform 
me  to  whom  these  arms  belong? 

On  an  oval  shield  parted  per  fease  or  and  azure, 
1st  three  nwca  in  asiure;  2ndly,  three  roses  in 
or,  two  in  chief,  one  ia  iMtse  (the  roses  hare  four 
leaflets  only). 


B  picture  1 


allegorical  c 


Fame.  The  picture  is  divided  into  three  circles 
with  three  separate  entrances.  The  Hrnig  are 
placed  in  the  centre  uf  the  architrave,  which  rests 
on  marble  columns  terming  the  first  entrance,  and 
is  surmounted  by  a  golden  statuu  of  the  poetical 
deity  Fame. 

1  suspect  they  are  the  arms  of  soine  Venetian 
ecclesiastic.  ''  Escutcheons,  partieulurly  of  Italian 
ecclesiastics,  are  generally  oval."  (See  Tornv's 
Heraldry.)  '  R.  M.  \\ 

Charles  Lek-ii,  author  of  The  Xatural  Ui-h 
Ion/  of  Ltmi-mhire  anil  Ctieahire,  was  educated  at 
Oxford,  whew  he  tjiok  a  degree  in  l(lNJ.  He 
was  elected  a  member  of  the  lioyal  S<iciety  in 
loss,  aud  i.s  Bupposud  to  have  died  about  1701. 


a  tiurgeou  or 
ixious  to  kno 
11.  FisnwicK 


i.s   BUppOBud    t 

1  to  have  practised  « 
physician  in  Ijoodnn.  I  am  i 
when  and  vrhere  be  died. 

Carr  Hill,  Itoclidalv. 

TuoMAfl  MowuKAV.— Can  any  of  your  corre- 
spondenls  inform  me  where  I  could  si'e  n  portmit 
of  the  notorious  Thomas  Mowbray,  Duke  of  Nor- 
folk, who  died  lS!X>i'  Any  sort  of  portrait  I 
should  be  glad  to  have  access  to,  but  one  about 
the  size  and  style  of  those  in  Strutt'a  Riyat  Anti- 

C'tiei,  would  best  suit  my  purpose.  It  is  stated 
PlauchtS,  in  bis  Brituh  Costume,  that  Thomas 
Mowbray  wore  —  by  right  of  his  desci'ut  from 
Edward' I.  or  by  favour  of  Richard  II.  —  the 
three  plumes  known  now  as  I'rince  of  Wales's 
plumes.  Is  he  anywhere  so  represented  ia  a  pic- 
ture '(  Uo  any  portroita  exist  of  his  father  John 
Lord  Mowbray,  or  of  his  mother  Elizabeth 
Segrave,  the  daughter  of  Margaret  Plautagenet, 
Duchess  of  Norfolk-'  T.  K  S. 

[Ko  sach  portrait  is  in  the  British  Muienui,  or  in  the 
Sutlierland  Ojllectian  at  Oirord ;  nor  ts  tlitre  any  mni- 
tiun  uf  0111)  iu  tlie  cataloKaes  printed  rir  iii  inanusrnpl.] 

MrFANWI. — What  is  the  origin  of  the  Welsh 
name  Myfanwy?  MailUucueir, 

NossTTcn  I'alace.— We  are  told  in  history  that 
Henry  VlII.  frequently  lived  at  a  place  called 
Nonsuch  Palace.  1  shall  be  much  obliged  if  auy 
of  your  n'aders  will  li.Ol  me  where  Nonsuch  Prilace 
was  utuated,  and  why  it  was  so  called  ?     M.  A. 

SNon.aui'li  Palace  wa>  in  the  noighbourhood  or  Clieam 
Eieell  in  Surrey.    Of  the  urigin  of  the  name  Leiand, 
u  Camden  infuraui  us,  Ihua  sings  ;— 

'■Hauc  quia  noq  liabent  limilem,  taadare  Brltanni 
Siepe  solent,  KUtugH*  paiiku  ngmaniiti  dimnt," 
(Tbi«,  bwsuw  it  haa  no  equal.  Ilritoni  ore  accustomed  to 
praise,  and  call  bv  name  tlic  Mutchlmti,  or  Noiiituch.) 
rhe  works  were  hot  completed  at  the  death  of  lieniy 
Vlll.  ia  Janoary,  IMi.  Queen  Mary  eiantcd  Itiii  pala- 
tial boiUinK  to  Henn-  |iti-Alan,  Earfof  Arnnil<.'U  but  it 
irlt  ponduaad  back  by  Queen  Kliuboth  rrom  his  son-iu- 


.  IX.  Feb.  17, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


139 


onl  Lumley.  It  was  subsequently  settled  respec- 
on  Anne  of  Denmark  and  Henrietta  Maria ;  and 

the  Commonvrealth  was  divided  between  Gen. 
irt  and  Col.  Pride,  the  latter  of  whom  died  here  in 

It  w/is  tinally  granted  to  Lady  Castlcmaine 
ess  of  Cleveland),  who  pulled  it  down,  sold  the 
als,  and  divided  the  park  into  farms.  For  further 
liars  of  this  famod  palace,  con.'^ult  Brayley's  Sur- 
:  -106;  Gentleman  s  Maiiazine  for  August,  1H37, 
;  and  Murray's  Jfundbook  of  Surrey^  &c.,  ed.  I8G0, 

itMAX  Poetry,   MTsiEraES,   etc.  —  In  the 

Maff.  (June?),  183(),  there  is  an  article  on 

Xonnim  and  French  Poetry,  ^lysteries,  &c., 

translation  of  part  of  an  old  mystery ;  and 

I  (/cut.  Mnf/.f  Ji^ily?  1^''>^  (bein^  No.  5  of 
•ospective  Review  '*)  there  is  another  essay  on 
le  Plays  of  the  fifteenth  century.  Can  any 
ur   readers   inform    me   who   wrote    these 

?  Pt.  IXGLIS. 

ncES  AFFIXED  TO  CncRCii  DoQRs. — I  shall 

id  of  anv  information  a-«  to  the  old  custom 

iing  notices  to  the  church  doors,  relatiujr  to 

rish  or  neighbourhood,  but  having  no  reter- 

0  matters  ecclesiastical.     I  do  not,  of  course, 

to  notices  that  were  ordered  to  be  placed 

by  various  Acts  of  Parliament.    The  follow- 

tice  as  to  lost  property  I  discovered,  some 

ago,  amongst  a  lot  of  rubbish  in  a  chest 

the  tower  of  the  parish  church  of  Ijuccombe, 

set.     The  document  is  about  twelve  inches 

),  and  tolerably  legible :  — 

here  bee  any  one  that  can  give  nowes  of  Tiiirteenc 
r  sheep  wlurh  Strayi'd  out  of  tlic  forest  of  Ex- 
the  nearc  Earo  an  Evill  and  a  Square  liaving 
nd  the  farthof  Eare  Stubd  upon  The  signo  is 
>trake  over  the  mouthe  and  a  black  j)at  over  each 
?r  if  any  can  give  any  notice  of  theui  tlien  leet 
ring  them  unto  William  Thomas  of  ICxfoord  and 

II  bee  well  paid  for  his  labor.'' 

;he  reverse  is  written,  as  well  as  I  can  make 

;  Clarke  (?)  to  putt  this  upon  the  Ciiurch  Doore, 
)erl03o."* 

word  "  evill,"  which  is  most  plainly  written, 
i  me  not  a  little :  but  I  find,  on  reference 
lliwell's  JHctmiarn :  ''Evil.  A  fork,  as  a 
rk,  &c.,  AV<!st."     *  J.  Ciiarj:l  Cox. 

Iwood,  Bel  per. 

tres. — What  are  the  sizes,  and  where  are 
llowing  pictures? — 1.  "  Death  on  the  Palo 
"  and  '*  The  Death  of  Nelson,"  so  familiar 
Tavings,  by  West.  2.  A  young  man  in  the 
in  sight  of  lii^  parents,  and  the  same  young 
^stored  to  life,  by  R.  Smirke,  engraved  by 
llard.  3.  By  whose  orders  was  the  Orleans 
tion  sold  in  170o,  and  how  was  it  allowed 
^e  Paris  ?  Dox. 


«I  *oreh-door  proclamations  see  "  N.  &  Q."  ^^^ 
28^3W.-Ed.] 


Quotations. — Can  any  of  your  readers  inform 
me  where  1  can  find,  in  Sishop  Bentley's  [Berke- 
ley ?]  WorkSf  the  following  query  H  — 

"  Whether  the  prejudices  in  favour  of  gold  and  silver 
be  not  strong;  nevertheless,  whether  they  be  not  pre- 
judices.^'* 

R.  W\ 

"  Even  as  the  mists 
Of  the  grey  morn  before  the  rising  sun, 
That  pass  away  and  perish." 

"  The  man  of  resolute  and  unchanging  will ; 
Whom,  nor  the  plaudits  of  a  servile  crowd. 
Nor  the  vile  joys  of  tainting  luxurj', 
Can  bribe  to  ^-ield  his  elevated  soul 
To  tyranny  or  falsehood,  though  they  wield 
With  blood-red  hand  the  sceptre  of  the  world.'' 

II.  L. 

'*  One  day  the  sea  with  mountain  billows  roU'd, 
What  time  His  Majesty's  good  ship  the  Ocean 
Was  driving  with  accelerated  motion  ; 
Yawing — see-sawing— by  the  tempest  tost : 
*  To  prayers,  (; —  d —  ye,  for  we  all  are  lost  I ' 
Cry'd  Bo'son,  *  four  feet  water  in  the  hold  I '  " 

The  next  stanza  is  a  description  of  the  tars 
falling  on  their  knees;  and   how  one   of  them 

S rayed  to  the  Virgin,  and  vowed  to  place  before 
er  "  a  taper  tall  and  straight  as  the  mainmast/' 
which  being  overheard  by  one  beside  him,  he  was 
asked  "  Where  will  ye  get  the  taper,  Jack  ?  " 
who  naively  replied :  — 

*'  D'ye  think  the  Queen  of  Heaven  would  condescend 
To  dun  Jack  Bo'sprit  for  a  candle's  end  ?  " 

Who  is  the  author,  apd  where  is  the  poem  to 
be  found  ?  Pax. 

Whence  the  phrase  "  History  repeat**  itself?  '* 

W.  T.  M. 

**In  the  mid  silence  of  the  voiceless  night. 

When  chased  by  airy  dreams  the  slumbers  flee. 
Whom  in  the  darkness  dotli  mv  spirit  seek, 
O  God,  but  thee!" 

Alpha. 

Whence  comes  the  following  ?  It  is  quoted  in 
Mr.  II.  K.  Digby's  Lover's  Seat,  ii.  283:— 

"  She  hath  no  scorn  of  common  things. 

And  though  she  seem  of  other  birth, 
Hound  us  her  heart  entwines  and  clings. 
And  patientlv  slie  folds  her  wings 

To  tread'  the  humble  paths  of  earth." 

CoRxun. 

Rubens'  "SusANxxn  axd  tiit:  Elders." — Is 
it  known  where  this  masterpiece  of  Peter  l*aul 
Rubens  is  now  preserved  ?  or  if  jiot  now  known 
to  exist,  where  was  it  last  seen  ?  G.  G. 

Russell  Family  Arms. — Information  respect- 
ing the  family  and  the  arm.s>  of  Armelah  Russell 
of  Dunswater,  Herefordshire,  an  heiress  of  con- 
siderable property  in  that  county,  is  particularly 
asked  for.  Sne  married  in  1709  or  1770  Samuel 
Collet,  Esq.,  of  Worcester,  and  died  1772.    He 


140 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4tt  S.  IX.  Fmb.  17,  *7S. 


afterwuid3  manied  a  Lady  Gre>l*\v.     Any  infor- 
mation r«>pL'ctiri«-  this  gentleman  wou^ld  oblige 

E.  R  CURTEIS. 

S.vuLiKs:  fU'MPiTEON  Mex.  —  In  retorenco  to 
Kiiu:li.>h  t'lUR'ial  t't?remonios,  I  met  the  other  day 
with  two  wonU  which  puzzled  me,  viz.  **  Saulies'* 
and  "  (lum])h-':^n  men."  Can  you  inform  me 
what  these  tenr.s  imply  ?  II.  O.  Adams. 

**Tin'  CoMPLvvxr  of  Scotland"  n.")40,  a.d.) 
Four  cojiies  of  this  interesting  book  ar«j  known  to 
have  coun}  dnwu  to  modem  times.  Ilarley's  two 
are  in  the  J>riti.-h  Musiium  (C.  24  a,  and  Gren- 
ville  O'loS).  (iforgo  Paton's  copy  is  in  the 
Library  vi!  the  raculty  of  Advocates  iji  Ivlinburgh: 
but  where  is  tl: -  fourth  ?  At  Creorure  Chalmers's 
sale  in  X(»v.  is  Ii\  it  (No.  127)  was  bought  by 
iiodd  foro/.  OS.,  jjkI  went  to  Mr.  Bright,  at  whose 
sale  it  was  a;:ai.i  bought  by  Rodd  for  4/.  Can 
any  '*  X.  iV:  (^"  r* -ader  toll  me  where  it  is  r  I  ask 
for  'our  J].  K.  T.  Society  editor,  Mr.  James  A.  II. 
Murray,  wlio.-«'  re-<?dition  of  tJie  book  for  us  is 
proiijiaeil  ill  .\i>:H,  and  is  indeed  nearly  ready 
now.  F.  J.  FrIl^'rvALL.* 

TiMi:  iMMKMoiiiAL. — I  noticed  a  statement  in 
prim  llie  «»t]i-!r 'lay  that ''time  iiiim»'niorial"  re- 
ferred })iir]i  to  {lurreijrn  of  Richard  1.  Can  any 
one  give  nv:  the  authority  for  such  a  >tLitenient? 

J.  S.  I'dal. 

VisiTATio?!  :.:'  London,  1()*):)-4. — I  am  pre- 
parin<r  f«r  pnhii-ation  by  the  Harleian  Society 
the  IL'ialdic  \i-itation  of  London  made  in  th(» 
vcar<  i<J-l->  and  lo-U.  1  should  fe<d  much  oblijre*! 
for  infor^iiatinii  as  to  the  prosent  representatives 
of  fauiilics  w]io-o  pedigrees  were  entered  in  that 
Visitation.       '  J.  J.  IIowAHD. 

T)artmt.»utli  l^)\v.  lllarUliciitli. 

Wasihnuio:,'. — Had  the  family  fr«»m  wliich 
sprung  the  ^r-Mi  American,  (ieoige  Washington, 
any  vonn«.ctio!i  with  Kent  'f  W.  A.  S.  II. 

i  Svt  acronliiiix  1 »  tlie  \Va.s!iin^ton  pnli«;rce  printed  h\ 
the  A>//'  Kutjltiii'l  lliittor'nnl  and  Grnrii/affiral  Jiri/istt-ry 
185-J,  vi.  i\f<\.  'I'lie  lirst  rvconled  ancestor  of  the  .Vmc- 
ricnn  Wa.-^iiiiiL't  ii-  '.vas  .luhii  Washington  of  Whitefidd 
in  Lancasl.iic.  , 


I^CpltCi^. 


vj:ui:io,  thi:  paintkk. 
(4^»>  S.  ix.  G.) 

For  ample  bi  >graphical  and  artistic  details  of 
this  foreigner,  wJio,  in  the  dearth  of  native  talent, 
reaped  so  rich  a  harvest  in  this  country,  I  beg  to 
rofer  Dr.  Ramage  to  the  well-known  works  of 
Domenici,  Walpole,  and  Dr.  Waagenj  to  tho 
Dictionanj  of  Bryan,  to  the  Jland-Book  of  P. 
Cunningham,  an(l  to  the  Pcntiy  Magazine^  xxvi. 
272.  In  these  works,  which  are  probably  better 
known  to  Dr.  Eahaoe  than  myself^  will  be  found 


indications  of  the  various  castles,  aeata,  &&,  d«- 
corated  by  this  artist  and  his  assistanti^  far  his 
English  patrons,  and  wheie  still,  as  in  the  days  ii 
Pone— if  you  feel  in  the  mood,  and  have  leare 
and  permission  duly  granted — 

"  On  painted  ceilings  jwi  devootly  stan^ 
Where  f^rawl  the  aidnto  of  Vemo  and  LaguemL** 

Perhaps  none  of  his  works  are  better  kndwn  or 
more  esteemed  than  those  executed  for  the  Earl  of 
lilxeter  at  Rurghley  House.  Full  particulars  of 
these  will  be  found  in  a  volume  entitled — 

"  A  History  or  Description,  General  and  Cirenmitn- 
tial.  of  Burp:hley  House/ the  Seat  of  the  Right  Honor- 
able the  Earl  of  Kxeter.   I^biewsbuiy,  1797."  8to. 

In  this  volume,  reference  should  be  espediOr 
made  to  sect.  xi.  p.  07,  "  Of  Signer  Verrio,  ik 
some  of  his  Works  " ;  and  sect  xii.  p.  105,  "m- 
ther  Anecdotes  of  Verrio,  and  something  of  L» 
Guerre." 

There  is  a  later  work: — 

**  Guide  to  Durghley  House.  Northamptonshire^  H^ 
Seat  of  the  Mar(|uis  tti  Kxeter,  containing  a  Catalogue  ^ 
the  PaintiiiRs,  Antiquitiei»,  Ac  Stamford,  ISIS."  8vo. 

But  in  this  volume  the  curious  particulars  of  tb*      * 
two  artists  are  greatly  abridged. 

Anotlier  patron  of  Verrio  was  Lord  Lonsdale 
who  employed  him  to  decorate  his  seat,  Lowtl»^ 
Hall,  Westmorland.     To  this  nobleman  Tick^** 
addressed  his  *'  Oxford  :  a  Poem,**  making  alluai^'**' 
•  to  the  artist  in  tho  following  lines : — 

*'  Siioh  arts  as  tliis  adom'd  your  Lowther*s  hall, 
Wliere  fe^istin^  j;od3  carouse  upon  the  wall; 
Tht!  nectar,  which  creatiug  paint  j>upplies, 
Ini«)xicatos  each  pleas'd  spectator's  eyon, 
Who  view  amazM  the  Hgures,  heav'iily  fair, 
Ami  tiiiuk  they  breathe  tlie  true  Ely.sian  air : 
^Vith  strokes  so  bold  p^reat  Verrio's'hand  has  diswi*' 
Tho  p>ds  in  dwellings  brighter  than  their  own." 

But  thf so  no  longer  exist ;   hall  and  paintin^^^ 
having  alike  b^en  destroyed  by  fire. 

>riiLli  cnri(jus  matter  ndatiug  to  Verrio  will 
found  in  the  work  of  W.  H.  Sarslield  Taylor, 
Oru/hij  rro(/reA%  and  Prv.<ent  Condition  of  the  j^^ 
jb'ts  ill  a  real  liritain  and  Ireland  (Lond.  Whi'i^'^ 
taker  &  Co.),  1811,  2  vols.  8vo.     From  this  i* 
apjpoars  (i.  ;J54)  that  for  painting  executed,  i^^ 
^\  mdsor  Castle,  where  it  still  exists  (with  anotii9^ 
job  or  two)  he  "received  in  iive  years  about  700(NL  ^ 
for  painting  the  inside  of  Wolsey's  tomb-house  m^^ 
Windsor  he  pocketed  another  1000/.  from  Jani9^ 
II.:  at  Ihirghley  he  was  engaged  twelve  years,  fc"^ 
15W/.  a-year;  he  was  employed  by  William  I_ 
to  df'oorate  Hampton  Court  ;*nnd  here,  in  1707, 
pensioner  upon  Queen  Anne,  who  allowed  him  on 
of  charity — for  the  Neapolitan  had  spent  his  ean. 
ings  with  more  than  regal  munificenco— 200/.  ] 
annum,  he  clo«ed  his  career,  thus  missing  the  e 
ployment,  which  it  seems  had  been  intended  « 
him,  of  paintinff  the  battles  of  the  Duke  of  Mar! 
borough  upon  tne  walls  of  Blenheim. 

WiLLIAH  BaTBS^  B. 


:X.  Feb.  17, 


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141 


CHARLES  SAKDOI-:  GILBKltT. 

(4"'  S.  ix.  70.) 
I  gUd  to  be  able  to  ansirer  Mb.  Boase's 

re^pectiog  the  latter  part  of  the  life  of 

S.  Gilbert.  It  is  rather  n  sad  story, 
lerves,  I  think,  n  record  in  the  pagea  of 

Q.*'  After  Mr.  Gilberfa  failure  in  busi- 
n  cbemift  And  druggist  nt  I'lvmouth  Dock 
port),  occasioned  chieUy,  I  beliere,  from 
lug  devoted  too  much  of  liis  time  and  at- 

to  his  Ilistory  of  Carn'sall,  he  removed  to 
^,  and  opened  a  ijhop  in  tbu  same  busineaa 
strand.  It  vas  here  ]dr.  Wiillis  saw  him, 
vM  hero  !i9  was  visited  by  an  old  asaociate 
literiiry  lat>our»,  Mr.  11.  1'.  Parker.  At 
iod  nt  whii'h  Mr.  Parker  n-na  connected 
r.  Gilbert  with  respect  to  the  Ilislary,  the 
was  but  a  youth.  lie  made  for  Mr.  Gil- 
my  of  the  drnwinp's  engraved  for  his  work, 
■}  since  bcoimo  nn  artist  of  conwderaWe 
'  Mr.  I'lirker  says  in  a  letter  I  had  the 
J  of  reteivinsr  from  him,  relative  to  Mr. 
,  A  few  yi'ni-s  n^o,  tliiit,  fn  his  visits  to 
I  (he  was  ihwi  ri-sident  nt  Xeweastle-upon- 
fiiT  his  prolW^ionnl  improvement,  he  re- 
hia  per.iiinitl  Oiimiuiinication  with  Mr.  Oil- 
id  had  the  npjioituiiity  of  enjoving  much 
ilial  conversation  with  him.  lie  learned 
rePi)ective  of  the  time  devoted  by  Mr.  Oil- 
the  work,  thi^  tiSpen>>e3  of  tlie  publication 
Hif/'iiy  nearly  donbled  his  estimate ;  but 

n'ganled  tbo  c<>inpletiun  of  an  undeiluk- 
ich  he  had  had  iit  heart  from  bis  youth,  as 
ivnleiit  for  all  the  trials  und  deprivations 
le  had  aaftered  in  its  acconiplishmcnt. 
Gilbert's  bonne  in  the  Strand  afforded, 
.B  back  bedroom  Avimlnws,  a  view  over  the 
.-nrd  i.f  the  Savoy.  Often,  Mr.  Parker  eavs, 
Id  admire,  when  lliey  were  alone,  the  quiet 
de  church,  which  ri-minded  them  of  ^iiiiilai' 
they  had  visited  together  in  the  villages 
iwail,  and  very  ofii-n  exp^c^:sed  a  desire 
•  grnvejanl  of  the  Savoy  might  bo  his  last 
place.  I'rom  bi;it)g  iit  Hrst  exjirewed  as  a 
wish,  the  tii-^in:  grew  upon  him,  and  at 
ussumeti  the  firm  of  n  nfr[uesi,  and,  on  his 
his  remains  were  thuro  interred  accord- 
Mr.  Parker  is  still  alive :  but  1  do  not  tliink 
be  committing  any  bri-ach  of  confidence  if  I 
.'  sequel  in  his  own  words :  — 
iwltU  mme  d*f,'H'o  of  nir>lanchnly  pleainre,  and 
uxn  and  alTvrtinnate  nhKirrI  for  nverv  attsmdntina 
«1  with  liin  memuiy,  tliat  I  imruhasixl  the  adjoin- 

Vbith  my  eklft-t  srm,  bavin's  did  'in  London,  was 
i^jMiein,  dose  lieaide  one  so  ilear  to  mv  reoollee- 
"<  pivratoncs  of  both  may  bo  aeon  at  the  prc- 

"iBoME  may  be  );lad  to  know  that  Mr.  Psrher 
Wl^ot  DsTonpott.    See  Worth's  //ritory  of  (hat 


ssnt  day;  and  although  time  hal  swept  away  all  Mr. 
Gilbert's  rriends,  to  prevent  as  fkr  as  pinsibls  w  emineat 
and  wiirthy  a  man  b«in{-  lost  In  obtcurily  in  so  humble  a  ■ 
jiluue  of  sepulture,  when  ooe  head-atone  requires  reftesh- 
iop,  I  cheerfully  bear  Ibe  expcDW  of  doing  the  other 
al?^,  lo  perpetuate  Mr.  Gilbert's  memory  as  well  a;  that 
of  my  |)oor  son." 

^Ir.  Gilbert  left  his  shop  in  the  Strand,  and 

removed  to  another  in  Newcastle  Street  (after- 
wards occupied  by  Dr.  Eicharda,  who  had  been 
one  of  bis  apprentices)  i  and  having  retired  to  reat 
on  May  HO,  1831,  apjwrently  in  good  health,  waa 
found  the  next  morning  dead  in  his  bed,  as  sup- 
posed from  apoplexy. 

The  inscription  on  the  gravestone  is  — 
"  In  Memory 

of  Kenwv'n,  in  Comwalj,  " 

obiit  Mali  30'».  ittai. 

Aulhur  ofGilbert's  '  Hijlorioal  Survey 

of  the  County  of  Cornwall.'" 

I  have  many  more  particular.^  relative  to  Mr. 

Gilbert,  which  I  may  publish  at  a  future  lime; 

but  I  have  already  too  far  'trespassed  upon  the 

conrte^fy  of  the  very  obliging  Editor  of  "  A .  &  Q." 

JOUN  M.ICLEAN. 
llammersniith. 

A  short  account  of  tbe  family  of  Mr.  Gilbert 
is  given  in  the  Ili'tory  of  Cormvatl  (ii.  33o-G), 
published  by  Mr.  Ilotten'  of  Piecadillv.  It  is 
there  stated  that "  he  is  supposed  to  We  died 
somqwbere  in  London."  L.  L.  II. 


DAM  I  AX. 
(1"  S.  X.  165.) 
In  last  October,  on  a  broker'.'!  stall  near  the 
Cathedral  at  Abbeville,  I  found  a  book  which 
enables  me  to  answer  a  query  of  long  standing. 
The  title-page,  I  think,  is  curious  enough  to  be 
given  at  length  : — 

"Lu  Vivu  Murlu.   Effelo  rti  In  piccatu  rti  la  oami 
c.iusalii  da  lu  vanu  e  bruttii  amori  di  11  Donni  causa  prin- 
ri|)ali   d'oRui  dannu.      Storia   Morali   eumpo'ta  da  D. 
Antuniuu  Uainionu,  Carinrsl.  pri  divirttmentu,  e  proliltu 
di  li  L'iuviniitli.cli' aeeuincnxnnu  a  prattlcaie  stu  blloci 
Muimiu    111  I'ali-rmu,  1736, 12».,  pp.  283." 
•'  Sa  Kiyina  Elizabetu 
{'hi  la.-isuu  Itirta^cna  'intetta 
Uiniusi.etordiesempii 
Ir  adoni  e  fulti  Kcmpii, 
Ch'  allurdau  cnruna,  e  manta, 

Di  Nt  a  donna  la  natura 
Cusai  data  a  la  scisgara 
Xun  «i  Uji  la  paracgia 
'  Avin  tiDta  feia  ragRin 
A  lAifCari  li  sol  fomili 
Cuxd  IiruttJ,  cuasi  'udomiU, 
Cli'arditpeju  d'nnafuriu 
Talta  focu^i  loasurla 
Cb  rahinia  cu  tatii  genti, 
Cu  Btianeri,  e  cd  poienti 


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[i'>>S.lX.  FbB.17,7i 


V.  cii  iioliili,  e  oil  f;ni)l»ili 
Ma  cu  amiiri  taiitii  iiuiliili, 
Tniitu  indiijiiu.  o  i.iiit'  «»rri»ii!i, 
(.'he  vi  j»ari,  rW  i'  iin-rrtliliili 
(\nnu  »'lii««ta  si  .•<tUL:a\a, 
( "a  hi  M-nzii  sa/iavM 
i'u  liraimicu  viTil«'<lilii, 
Nipi  f'ar'ia  crinlu  nia"i<l(lii ; 
I)()|i|>ii  taiiti  aniari  w/./A 
\A  facia  t.'i;ru:hiari  a  \n'/.y.\ 
V.  ahbnioiari  a  luininaria. 
I'll!  la  eru'Ia  liiiiainria 
Tutti  (Id*  ossa  calcinali 
Vulia  ini>i,  o  >itu:iti 
i'.w  tU'H'.ruu  ci[  II pli nan/a 
•  Xira  la  f^ua  se^'n  t.i  sraiizi 

Cu  hi  iinomu  i*  hi  <'ii;iniiniu, 
K  la  ])atria  di  dd'  oinii: 
('um])mirndin-i  lui  scartatiu, 
I'll  pulitica  epitaii) 
Tuttu  lintu,  c  a  Idatt  ita 
A  inateri  i  di  statu. 
(Mr  nlludia  limiu-m  pd(';;jui 
A  IMiiclli  i',i  111  Kt-i^iiii ; 
K  ^audia  stu  /.iriiitcriu, 
Stiicrudili  vlt'ipiTiu, 
Di  li  spurcliK-^fi  d.iliipiii 
t'nnui  pvzzi  di  r<'li(piii." — pp.  27,  L'S. . 

FlTZUOPKIXS. 
Garrick  ("luh. 


"THI-:  MISTLKTOK  UOriJII." 

(P""  ^.  viii.  8,  IKJ,  177,  lOo,  :n:J,  504 :  ix.  iC).) 

AVIk'n  T  pi-opo<;o(l  tli»»  iiifjuiry  relativi?  to  the 
orijrinsil  circimistances  on  wliirh  this  balhul  was 
founded,  it  did  not  occur  in  me  to  quote  the 
wonls,  as  I  inijjrht  havi'  done,  in  order  to  help  in 
j-learing  up  the  mysterious  pari  ol*  the  story.  As 
it  sCenis  to  me  some  reference  to  thoni  may  facili- 
tate the  arrival  at  a  conclusion,  I  here  select  a 
few  verses  from  Ilayn^^s  IJayly's  once  popular 
composition,  asking  you  to  permit  them  to  be  here 
reproduced  : — 

"Tiie»Tnistlot()e  hun^r  in  the  castlo  hall. 
The  holly-branch  shone  on  tlit*  (»ld  oak  wall ; 
And  the  baron's  P^tainors  wore  hlithe  and  gay, 
And  keeping  their  (Miristmas  holyday. 
'J'hc  baron  btdield  with  a  father's  ])ride 
Ilisheautiful  <'hild,  youiii;  I^ovell's  hride. 
While  sh«»  with  Iut  bright  tyes  sceiu'd  to  be 
The  star  of  tin-  {^ood'y  company. 

Oh,  the  misll«too  boiii;]i  ! 

Oh,  the  misth'toe  b«)ugh  I 
I'm  weary  of  danoin^j  ni)W,'  she  cried, 
*IIere  tarfv  a  numiont— I'll  hide,  111  hide  ; 
And  Lovell  be  sure  ihou'rt  tin*  lirst  to  trac*** 
The  clue  to  my  .-crret  lurking-place.' 
Away  s1m»  ran,  and  her  friends  be«:an 
Kach  tower"  to  search,  and  each  nook  to  scan  ; 
And  yonnp:  Kovelj  cried,  'Oh  !  where  dost  thou  hide  ? 
I'm  lonesome  without  thee,  my  own  dear  bridcl  ' 


(( t 


"At  length  an  oak  chest  that  had  Jons  lain  hi<l 
Was  found  in  the  castlc—thev  roi.Vd  tJie  lid  : 
And  a  skeleton  form  lav  mnuldcrinf;  there 
In  the  bridal  wreath  of  the  lady  fair ! 


Oh !  sad  was  her  fate !  in  sportive  iest, 
Slie  hid  from  her  lord  in  the  old  oax  cbett 
It  closed  with  a  ^rinpr*  and  her  bridal  bloom 
Lay  withering  there  in  a  living  tomb. 

Oh !  the  mistletoe  booghi**  &c. 

It  will  be  seen,  I  think,  from  these  lines  that 
the  incidents  fzf)m  which  the  song-writer  dre"^ 
the  materials  of  his  story  did  not  happen  in  Ital^f 
where  the  mistletoe  and  the  holly  branch  woati 
be  unfamiliar  objects  in  a  *' baron's  hall/'  but   ^  ' 
10n;rland,   whero  the  ''baron's  retainers"  woix^l^ 
keep  **  their  CVtrWrnas  holfdaj'."    The  suppo^?^ 
tion  that  the  son«r  had  its  origin  in  anylegfe^:^. 
coimected  with  an  Italian  cdMello  may,  therefo^ce, 
be  presumed  to  be  improbable.    Agam :  whil^    it 
may  be  supposed  the  "  young  Lovell "  was       ^^^ 
invention  of  the  P'ct,  it  is  equally  probable       ^ 
had   in   his  eye   the  member  of   some  Engl'^uA 
family,  concern intr  whom  tlie  tradition  was  writC-^^ 
or  rehited.     ilenoe  I  infer  the  ballad  was  deriw"^*^ 
fnim  some  w«*ll-kuown  family  legend.    The  «rr3ld 
oak  clie^Jt  or  coHer  was  in  former  times  an  artL  ^cw 
of  furnituie  in   every  mansion,  and  its  invitV-^ 
readiness  to  be  made  a  hiding-place  may  hi 
been  the  cause  of  more  than  one  tragedy,  in 
j  sequence  of  the  thoughtlessness  of  young  _ 
;  in  retrard  to  the  consequences  of  concealment 
it  when  the  lid  was  allowed  to    close  over 
I  temporary  occupant.     I  can  well  believe  that 
mav  say  of  this  as  of  other  old  world 
*'  mutato  nomine  do.  te  fabula  narratur,*'  and  theb-     9^ 
fore  do  not  doubt  the  truth  of  Miss  Mitfoic^^^, 
statement  quote<l  by  Lord  Lyttkltox  in  regard    ^^^ 
;  Bramshill  and  Malsanger.    In  fact,  since  the  que: 
I  was  first  inserted  in  ''  X.  &  (j.,"  it  has  been  stati 
that  at  some  date  later  than  that  in  which 
story  was  laid  in  ni}'  note  to  the  Irklitor,  a  simil 
sad  circumstance  happened  in   a  Loicestershi: 
house,  the  mansion   of  the  Ilartopps.     But  tl' 
sonjr  speaks  of  the  **  baron's  hall,'*  and  this  woul 
apply  to  Extern,  which,  castellated  in  outline,  wi 
the  residence  of  Noel,  Karl  of  Gainsborough,  E- 
the  reiirn  of  (^ueen  Anne,  where'  the  scene  wi 
enacted  as  (Ic.v'ribcd  to  me  by  one  now  no  mc 
betwi'cn  whom  and  the  eye-witness  there 
only  one  link  of  connection.     I  must  admit,  ho> 
ever,  then?  arc  minor  discrepancies  between  th 
ballad  and  the  tradition  which  militate  againpi^ 
my  conjiicture  of  the  burden  of  the  song  havio^ 
originated  in  the  melancholy  end  of  the  Christ::^ 
mas  festivities  at  Kxt«m.        '  Jattee. 

L<*ice>ter. 


OKIGIN  OF  TlCIinOKNi:. 

(4»»«  S.  ix.  (j\).) 

There  are   two  corrections  which   I  wish  t 
moke.    Hughendon  should  have  been  Hugh 
den,  according  to  current  orthography.    The  vir 
ation  seems  trivial,  but  it  makes  an  imppr'  ^ 
difference  in  the  meaning.    The  tcirminatiai 


V>'  S.  IS.  FfB.  17, 


J-1 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


US 


would  refer  to  the  ridge  od  which  Hugbendcn 
manorhoum  and  church  stand,  -while  den  refers  to 
the  adjacent  valley.  It  is  frequently  written  dean, 
as  if  intended  to  sound  dane,  which  I  think  the 
correct  one.  I  hold  deii  to  be  identical  with  diiu 
is  the  name  of  the  river  Jordnn. 

Next,  I  hflTe  found,  in  tlie  course  of  rfsearch, 
that  it  is  not  necessary  to  include  any  nrelix  in_ 
order  to  account  for  tLe  foreign  letters  in  Strother. ' 
.The  root-word  is  the  Celtic  roth,  a.  Tftrialion  of 
WA,  mud,  TothfT  aignifjinf,'  a  mud-tract.  To  rvth 
.the  Northmen  after  their  manner  prefixed  »,  tbus 
making  it  iratk,  which  hccnmc  corrupted  into 
ttroth.  Unrfer  this  form,  with  the  substitution  of 
«/  for  (A,  we  find  it  in  Stroo<l  on  the  estuary  of  tlie 
Medway,  and  in  Stroud,  Oloucesterahire.  Ad- 
joining the  latter  is  llodborouirh,  when)  rod  = 
roth.  W.  B.  11.  L. 

I  apprehend  Tichbome  is  not  from  Hitch,  but 
from  tbo  river  Ilcbin,  near  which  is  the  estate. 
B^cr  Tichborno  is  liogcr  du  Itchinbome. 

Vi,  Portland  Tlacc. 


W.  B.  R,  I.,  has  some  curious  remarks  in  sup- 
port of  his  explanation  of  Tichhome.  Ho  seems 
to  derive  tJiVcA  from  diiificflu  he  mistakes  a-iicie, 
atteii  oak^  of  |H^(dt'moustrativeaccu3ative)=(i^ 
iht  for  at  an,  and  ho  actually  writes — "Trino- 
banten  ....  I  analyse  it  into' Trin-ob- lion t,  tlmt 
is,  Treen- up -the- height,  and  so  make  it  equivalent 
to  Eppinfi  (uppiiig)  Forest,  '  treen '  beiag  the  old 

flural  of 'tree.  "  iFancy  this  fate  forTrinobantes, 
(csar'a  form  of  the  name  of  the  British  subiecta 
of  C'asi^ivellauuus !  Does  W.  B.  U.  L.  really  believe 
that  the  Triuohantes,  n.c  51,  were  Englishmen 
and  talked  English  !*  Why  should  English  phi- 
lol-MTT  be  so  couslautly  uiade  ridiculous?' 

o.  ^\■.  T. 

MILTOXS  L-Si;  OK  THK  Sl'I'lCUI.VTrV!-.. 
(J"  S.  ix.  90.1 
51 R.  Ch.isce's  note  does  not  appear  to  me  clear. 
Indeed  he  auenia  to  have  fnilen  into  some  degree 
of  confusion  in  all  his  remarks.  Milton  did  not 
"adopt  the  simpie  speech  of  childhood,"  but  the 
ungrammatical  Greek  use  of  the  superUlivo  (see 
Kewton's  note  on  Pfinidixc  Loal,  iv.  :}'J'i).  Xireus 
is  said  (//.  ii.  073)  to  be  the  hnndsnmost  of  the 
other  (ireciaus — is  KiWurTOS  ir'.ft  i-'a  '\kiov  ^\if 
Tsr  iwnf  a.arai:r.  Horace  culls  a  freed  Woman 
(&i(.  i.  100)  "forlissinia  TvndariJnruni,''  not  that 
she  was  one  of  the  Tyndaridic,  but  braver  than 
Ihey.  Bentley  anya,  "  I'll  not  believe  this  distich 
to  be  Milton's."  He  adds,  that  in  strict  coustruc- 
tion  it  implies  Adam  to  be  one  of  bis  own  sons, 
•nd  Eve  one  of  her  own  daughters.  Probably, 
Md  tbi*  gieftteat  of  Eogliah  critics  remembered  j 


at  the  instant  that  it  was  classical  fireek,  he  would 

hare  spoken  less  plninlv,  but  he  is  certainly  right, . 
although  be  lets  "  tbi'  loveliest  pair  "  oil',  not  ob- 
serving that  it  is  eqmdly  faulty.     lu  viii.  O-'jS — 
"  <~.r«ittieK>  nrmiiKl  ii:t<l  nobleucfs  llu'jr  sent 
Ituild  Id  her  luvdier,!." 

"In  ber  loveliest,"' says  Benllev  ;  "praywhat?  or 

is  it  in  her  being  lovelieat  ?  fiitber  way  ci^uallr 
absurd."  ....  '"This  is  a  shameful  mispnnt'  ; 
and  he  suggests  "  forehead."  hecnuse  (ireek  and 
Latin  poets  place  nobleness  in  thefurehend.  Here 
he  is  over-cnticnl  and  unpoeticiil ;  for,  though  the 
onler  is  highly  inverted,  Milton  is  correct 
"  (.Ireatness  of  mind  and  noblenessliuild  their  love- 
liest seat  ill  her"  It  looks  an  if  Benllcy  wrote  hia 
notes  on  Milto'o  in  a  burr}-  the  evening  befon: 
taking  a  journey,  sent  them  to  pn-ss  without  cor- 
rection, and  found  them  published  irievocably 
on  his  return.  Shakespere's  use  ia  not  irregular. 
and  3Ir.  Cii.vxt^E  says  "it  scarcely  htrikes  one 
lis  being  so.*'  Of  any  man,  that  in  of  tlie  class 
mankind,  York  ia  thu  most  unfit.  Byron's  lines 
are  not  lui grammatical  ;  they  are  untrue.  A 
palace  and  a  prison  might  hare  irpii  on  each  hand. 
Tbo  fait  wiis  that  a  palace  wiw  on  oue  band  and 
a  [irisoii  on  the  other.  Had  he  said  a  palace  _oc  a 
priHon  be  would  have  saved  the  fact,  but  in  a 
confused  way  now  he  trauspresscs  fact. 

Lastly,  Mr.  Cuanck  aeeins  to  mia.i  the  point  in 
respect  'of  which  the  girl  of  thirteen  erred,  and 
that  i*  why  she  refused  to  see  ber  error.  Had  he 
said  "Your  mararaa  is  not  one  other  sisters-in-law, 
and  so  cannot  be  the  youugcst  ofthem,"  she  would 
hare  known  at  onco  that  she  was  wrong.  The 
statement  is  against  fact,  not  gr.uiiuiar:  (or  itf 
would  have  been  correct  to  linve  Mid  '■  Yon  an* 
the  youngest  of  vour  family,  mamuia.*'  _  Milton 
did  not  en'  from  simplicily,  b'ut  from  clns^calism ; 
and,  in  tlie  second  instmico  when  Bentley  con- 
damns,  Milton  is  right.  Sbakespi^rB  is  right; 
Byron  and  the  young  lady  are  wnmg  as  to  fact, 
not  gramtnar;  and  Mr.  Cii.\sce  is  wrong  alto- 
gether. Never  mind,  he  will  tiiid  nbnndaut  errors 
in  Ills  cori-ector  if  li>.  wilt  onlv  wait  long  enough. 
C.  A.  VV. 

SIsyfuLr. 

I  apprebenj  tliis  well-knowu  pawage  of  Milton 
had  nothing  to  do  wilh  ebildivn's  language,  and 
assuredly  it  was  not  unconscious  in  any  senae. 

Milton's  fondness  for  cl-ve  iniiCotiou  of  the 
cla&ucs,  especially  the  Greeks,  ii  well  known : 
and  this  case  iu  {{uestion  is  a  furoiliar  Kri'cism.  It 
occitts  in  the  first  BCiiteiice  of  TbueydidfS,  »b*wi> 
afyOKoyuTajav  tSf  irpir)<7<«jiiito»,  in  Ilouior  (/'- U- 
(>7!i-4),    Nrpfi.1    Ka>.KtarttS   tie    LKMao    Aoi-a»T,    and 

elsewhere.  LrirELTOH.  ^ 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4^  S.  UL  Feb.  17, 71. 


Italian  Etymological  Dictionary  (4'*»  S.  viii. 
108.) — Will  you  allow  me  to  Bgftin  aak  if  any  of 
yoiir  leamod  corrospondonts  can  recomnieud  mo 
ail  Italian  Etyniol();:ical  Dictionary? 

I  feel  ^'urt•  that  in  Enj^land,  where  Ittilian  is  so  1 
much  studied,  and  where  you  have  such  excellent  j 
transluti<ins  uf  and  commentaries  on  Dimte,  that  I 
shall  not  lieek  for  such  a  work  in  vain.  , 

A  ForwETtiNKR. 

'*  Na^T  XIiriL  EST  GEMMIS"  (4"'  S."  ix.  57.)  — 
This  line  is  not  quoted  quite  correctlv.  It  should 
be  — 

"Nam  uihil  est  fjcmmia  nihil  est  preti«>-ius  aiiro," 

which  is  the  ninth  lino  of  a  poem  by  J.  Passer-  ; 
alius,  addressed  to  E.  Memmius.     It  niav  be  seen 
at  p.  100  of  Johnson's  Licc^i  of  the  PorfSy  ed.  Cun- 
ningham, vol.  i.   Loud.  18i)-l.      En.  Marshall.    : 

(jTjr'^ox  Family  (4'**  S.   ix.  55.) — A  younger  , 
.branch   of  th«   (jibsons,   of  CJunraore   Park   and 
Myer.'Cough  Ilonso  in  Tjnncashire,  settled  in  Cum- 
berlmid  about  the  middle  of  the  seventeenth  cen-  ' 
tury.     In  the  early  part  of  the  present  century 
the  representative  of  this  family  was  Ilobnrt  (lib- 
son,  Esq.,  wiiose  elJe:?t  son  was  then  of  Gray's  ' 
Inn,  who  took  the  name  of  Atherley  in  addition  ■• 
to  that  of  his  own  family.     They  bore  a^nl^* — 
Azuri',  three    storks  ric-ing  propur.     Tliis  family 
bears  two  oir-ts — A  stork  rising  proper,  in  his  bi-ak 
an  olive  braneh,  vert;  and  a  lion  ranip.iiit  gra-ping 
a  club.  , 

There  was  also  a  Thomas  Gibson,  M.I).,  who 
was  born  at  High  Knipe  in  the  pari.>h  (^f  I5anip-  j 
ton.  He  gave  the  sum  of  two  hundred  pounds 
to  this  i>ari>h  church,  whereby  to  ])roeure  an  aug-  I 
mentation  by  the  governors  of  Quoon  Anna's 
bounty,  which  was  laid  out  in  a  purchase  «>f  lands  ' 
at  Ilossel-IVidge,  in  the  parish  of  Kendal.  Dr. 
T.  Gibson  was  fellow  of  the  Colh^ge  of  Pliy.-i- 
ciaus,  and  pliysician-general  in  thi.'  army.  He 
was  autlior  of  the  book  entitled  (u'!Ko,f\H  Ana- 
tomy. He  manied  (second  wife)  a  dauiihl-r  of 
liichard  Crouiwell,  son  of  Oliver.  'J'he  cvh-bratcd 
Dr.  Edmund  Gibson,  Dishop  of  London,  was  of 
the  Cunib'.-rl.indshire  brancli.  In  the  vear  172:J 
he  was  translated  from  the  see  of  Lincoln  to  that 
of  London,  and  died  in  the  year  17J8.  I  may 
also  add.  that  lus  was  a  native  of  High  Knipe,  and 
nephew  t(^  Dr.  Tiiomas  Gibson  ^/(/;rr>.  The  bishop 
rebuilt  at  his  own  expense  the  vicarage-house  at 
Dampton,  and  also  caused  a  monument  to  be 
erected  in  the  parish  churcli  here  to  the  memoiy 
of  his  father  and  mother,  with  this  inscription: — 

"  jMenioria;  Sacrum  Kthiiundi  ot  Janni  (ilbson,  Choris- 
simorum  Parcntum,  ^[unuiiiontnm  hoc  posuit  ICUinumlus 
Kpi^<coplLS  Londinensis,  Anno  Domini  AinccxLiri." 

In  the  charters  relating  to  Elslack,  co.  York, 
occurs  the  name  *'  WiH-o  Gibson  de  Lancaster/' 
dated  Dec.  17,  2  Henry  V.  1414.  llis  name  is 
mentioned  in  other  charters  relating  to  this  place 


of  later  "date.  John  Gybson,  ''piotnr  mftker," 
occurs  in  the  registers  of  St.  DunatanVin-the- 
West,  London,  as  early  as  1606,  1007,  and  16ia 
Hugh  Gibson' and  Maria  bis  "wife  occur  in  the 
charters  of  Manick  IMory,  co.  York,  imnj^ 
Henry  VI.  W.  WnrTEBS. 

Wultham  Abbev. 

DuET^siAXA  (4^^  S.  vii.  viii.  passim :  ix.  70.) — 
The  question  between  the  readings  of  pm  and 
menflf  pt^m  and  turn^  in  the  •*  Haggis*'  contro- 
versy, must  be  linallj  determined  by  the  MS.  or 
the  authoritative  editions  of  Bums  himralf.  Bat 
may  a  Southerner,  historically  connected  by  name 
%vith  Scotland,  and  personally  by  residence  and. 
duty  for  a  few  years  at  Melro^  oflfer  a  contribu- 
tion on  one  point  in  favour  of  the  latter  reading  P 

First  of  all,  is  a  skewer  the  invariable  occom 
paniment  of  the  •'  hn^rgis  "?  If  not,  the  argunen 
for  pin  is  much  weakened. 

Next,  is  then^  sneh  a  thing  as  a  pin  in  a 
otherwise  than  as  a  holt  /  If  not,  there  seems  n^  -* 
special  reason  for  the  introduction  of  a  "mill"  -^ 
more  than  any  other  machinery. 

IJut  above*  all,  I  always  understood  in  Scotlani^-^ 
that  the  rirtue  of  ihj  *' haggis"  was,  tfiat,  \r^£S^^ 
the  insertion  of  the  knife  at  the  summit,  whicK-^ 
wit«  iihvays  tlie  ]»ri  liminary  ceremony  by.th*-^^ 
mastir  of  tlu'  iVa^t.  the  force  of  the  imprisonofi^^ 
steam  sliould  spurt  the  juieo  to  the  ceiling^S 
Taking  all  the  circumstances  —  the  perspirin^^ 
"  amber."  th<f  accompanying?,  terms  of  description, 
and  tlie  humour  of  the  poet — does  it  not 
probiible  tiuit  this  bursting  stream  was  the  mm 
that  miirht  help  to  "  turn"  a  mill,  in  his  uvel] 
and  excited  imajrination  ? 

HlJUBERT  BAXDOIfH. 

Kin^^murc. 

The  oontrover«y  about  the  meaning  of  pin  u 

the  address  '*  To  a  Ilaras"  seems  to  me  muck — ' 

ado    about    nolliing.      It   means    exa;'tly   what^ 

Mk.    1)ki:nn'\x  says,  the  wooden  pin  or  skewer 

I  used  to  seiMire  the  moutli  of  the  hajrgis,  and  can 

'  havi.'  no  other  meaning.     Bums's  expression  — 

I  "  YiMir;)»/t  wa<l  help  to  mend  a  mill 

1  In  time  o'  neeil," — 

!  is  obviously  a  metaphorical  allusion,  suggesting' 
i  the  quantity  of  wood  contained  in  a  pin  of  such 
I  dimensions.'  I  do  not  tliink  peen^  in  the  Aber- 
1  deen.shire  dialect,  means  juicej  nor  am  I  awaie 
!  that  it  is  a  Scotch  word. 

An  Old  Scotch  woxAir, 

Sc(»r TLSTi  Iron  Money  (4'»»  S.  ix.  57.)  —  I  su*t 
pf  ct  that  KsrEDAKi:  has  misquoted  the  final  clause 
of  the  charter  to  which  he  refers,  and  that  the 
real  words  are  **  tres  nummatas  terras "  (not "  fern.") 
A  '*nummata  terrro"  is  supposed  to  have  con- 
tained an  acre  (title  Cowell,  voce  "  Nummata  "), 
where  he  will  find  quoted  a  charter  with  these 
words.  A.  J«  A« 


17,72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


lYin:  (4***  »S.  ix.  oO.) — The  words 
fdc  are  ap])urontly,  iu  common  with 
in  the  saniM  district,  of  Celtic  ex- 
nuld  bo  derived  and  moan  as  fol- 
from  repiar,    "  a   small  «'xpanse,"  j 
?alled  having'  once  been  a  ten  lake.  ! 
is  the  namt)  of  an  ancient  drain,  j 
ater   cour.so,"  troni  (ruy-rhklj  *'  a  j 
Owyhirn,  close   b}',  i-  to  be  trans-  1 
iver  meadow/'  from  ''  fiwy-lmn;''  i 
i/'  call'.'d  \Vliitll»-.-oa  Wash,  at  the 
from  the  Celtic  word  ^/wvw,  a  low 

K.  K. 

*s(Up?.s.,  index,  hiarr  \s  rendered 
II.  hitorty  a  knur  or  knob ;  O.-X. 
)rominejis."  If'n/dc  uvdy  be  from 
/,  a  course,  ford. 

li.  S.  ClIARNOCK. 

I)!--  Ai5!X<.D.'>x  (  [^^  S.  viii.  r>.js.') —  ' 

y  rvspcitinLr  \\w  r»lationsliip  of  the  i 

nre  tiiis  name,  and  ri -sided  at  Ab-  , 

valclill",  is  fXMiiiineil  in  Nichols's  ; 

he  will  «.f  Ilich.H'd  Wickhani  of  i 
d  Mav  L>-J,  I.;:;."),  ha^— 
f'kliam   <'i"  Sw;  I'iihV  in  tli-^  rMuntieof 

Mi"^li.  UP  i  li  ilaii'  tliat  William  Wirk- 
iii  th<'  i'liiiiitii'  111'  I't-rks  <tiiini'  of  J«ihn 
ril.  Ifl  in   t':o  i-"Mi::ii'  <»rSu<.;-v,  is  my 

,    aii'l    <1'. -("■  r.il'il    Ii'm;;!    til"!    il.'il'i'    cf 

.ill.'.- 

in  7'/V'  j!'-), .■,{(/'}/  (luardiau  as  an 
'ollrctducn  oil  J)('(\  -^. 

v..  Maksiivll. 

^■' S.  \\\\.  pif^sim;  \x.>^{.) — In 

ultli   ••(li'tM.l   a  nii'Mthlv  ni;iL'"a- 

■u  Of.'  f 'oi'iti'i 't  Mi-' r/ltifu/,  in 

i::- ]". ',".,■/   ;''\--ifj  Wire  .'iiio- 

■r  }ii^  .-■..'■Mliiii^^  lo  nil'  of  the 

ill"  '•  S  )i;ie  N«'ws  cf  a  f;ini«Mis 

*^-IlMi,   ami,  ii'  I  r-nieniber 

V'HM  iii«;  p'-M.   It  i<  a  descrip- 

nid  lii'l  r"!ir'V-M.l    fn^n  I*?t. 

( I;-'  ■;),  r.U'l  it  i^  illu^tr.itrd 

'luo  "l'  tli'-  i-'liiinn  as  it  now 

t?  stiiii*.*  on  wliicli  lilt?  dials 

*•  Tli»'  old  })0(  t,  Ih'iWfver, 

•ke  .,f  it>  .-•■\ni  f.ict^s.    It  is 

tliis  i^   .'ifcountf'd  ft.r  bv 


(.  s.tr"«'t-  i»p';ii'.d  i!;l->  •):!»! 

ih'iU-  ri-I'-rn-il  {n  jir.'  ilio 

111)'  r-i  !•'  wjiii'h  lilt'  i>:«ue 

ited.     All)  rt  Smith  was 

h  r«s«;irrlu's  as  ar<'  imli- 

'•  l';ii:ioii.^  (lid  l'V'll«)w/' 

('[■ihi;i:i:t  IiKhk.   ■ 
'i)rrr>]i(ii!«l<!its  nn  the  l.'Jth 


A   PROPOS  DE  BOTTES    (4**    S.   Ix.   72.)  — 

expression  reminds  one  of  a  curious  verse  in  Vi 

Ilnjro's  Contetnpiatiim.^,  vol.  ii.  p.  94.  Somefrie 

upbraiding  him  at  that  time  already,  as  they 

justly  now-a-days,  for  b^ing  a  renegade  and  \ 

serter    of   sound'  doctrines,    the    poet,    nothi 

daunted,  retorted  in  six  pages  of  AlexondriiK 

that  he  cannot  conctdve  such  a  reproach.     Eve. 

one,  lie  says,  is  a  deserter  of  something  or  othi 

here  below  at  a  given  time ;  thus — 

**  Qu'cst-ce  qu'un  pnpillon  ?    Le  dosprteur  du  ver, 
Falstatfflc  range  V  .  II  est  raiH)stAt  des  ribottcs*. 
Mus  pieils  soiit  ruiK'^'ats  <|uand  ils    quittent    mc: 
/Myites  !  " 

There's  poetry  for  you.  P.  A.  L. 

The  reference  is  to  Consul  Brown's  Ileport  on 
the  Trade  of  Gcnotiy  not  Geneva. 

PUILIP  S.  KlXG. 

"  P'iRST  IX  Talents,''  ktc.  (V^  S.  ix.  70.)— 
The  dedication  ht;ro  mentioned  is  evidently  imi- 
tated from  that  under  portraits  of  George  Wash- 
ington, and  also  under  a  clock  with  a  bronze 
statue  of  him,  I  once  saw  in  America — "First  in 
in  war,  ilrst  in  peace,  tirst  in  the  hearts  of  bis 
countrvmen.''  P.  A.  L. 

IIkxuy  Lvcii  (4***  S.  ix.  7o.)— The  information 
re(}uired  is  ^jiven  at  pp.  13-20,  vol.  i.  of  Conolly's 
Jlistifri/  of  i/ic  Iloyal  Snipers  and  Miners  l8od. 

J.  W.  F^ 

Dkatfi's  Head  Buttons  (4»**  S.  viii.  527;  ix. 
(Jl.)  —  I  have  often  seen  rings  with  a  skull  and 
cross-bones,  with  the  motto  *'  Memento  mori." 
Pascal,  quoting  p]piotetus,  says — "  Ayez  tous  les 
joins  devant  les  yeux  la  mort  ot  les  maux  qui 
S'Miibleut  les  plus  insupportables,  et  jamais  vous 
n(«  pensertz  rien  de  b:w  et  ne  desirerez  rien  avec 
exc^s."'  Peo])le  have  always  been  fond  of  what 
tilt*  i''ronch  call  "'  des  aruies  parlantes.''  The  cele- 
brated Jaequj's  Cuer  had  for  his  a  heart  with  the 

ada_e,  *'  A  vaillant  cieur  rien  impossible.'* 

P.  A.  L. 

TiiK  Skvia"  Towns  of  Holland.  (^^'^  S.  ix. 
77.) — 'J'he  Inllowing  note  may  answer  the  inquiry 
of  Mk.  IImcijffk. 

Lincolnshire  is  divided  into  the  ''parts  of  Lind- 
say, Kesteven,  and  Holland."  ''Holland,"  or 
''The  parts  of  Holland,"  is  the  smallest  division 
containing  about  o0s,44')  acres.  Holland  is  again 
divided  into  three  Wai)entakcs,  of  which  Sturbeck 
Wapentake  is  one;  and  in  this  Wapentake  are 
the  towns  or  villages  named  East  Holland  Towns. 

Holland,  or  Ilaut  Iluntre,  Fen,  contained 
i'l\(K)0  a£-res,  of  which  some  7000  or  8000  were 
allotted  to  the  East  Holland  towns  of  Boston  E., 
Skirbeck,  Fishtoft,  Frie-ston,  Buttencivh,  Bening- 
ton,  Leverton,  and  Leak.       J.  N.  POCKUNGTON. 

8i  Michaers  Kcctor^',  Uulmc,  Manchester. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*k  S.  IX.  Feb,  17, 72. 


Dr.  Wm.  Strode  (4^**  S.  ix.  77.) — The  epigram 

given  under  this  heading  occiurs  also  in  the  fourth 

part  of  MiscvlUnvf  Pov.ma^  Ar.,  published  bv  Mr. 

JJryden,  p.  1-Jl  (London,  Tonson,  1710),  and  is 

there  entitled  '*  Kisses,  with  an  Addition."     This 

addition  consists  <>f  thr».'e  verses  in  excess  of  the 

one  here  quoted  (mfi'a)j  the  style  of  the  orijj^inal 

being  closely  followed.     The  epigram  reads  thus  : 

**  My  love  and  1  for  ki«ses  playM  ; 

She  wou'd  liold  staken,  I  wjls  oontcnt ; 
IJut  wlicn  I  won,  she  wouM  he  paid  ; 
With  that,  I  a>k'd  her  what  she  meant. 
Xnj-  then  (says  she)  I  see,  I  see,  you  wrani:hi  in  vain  ; 
ll(--re,  take  your  kiss,  and  ;^ive  me  mine  ajrain.*' 

J.  Perry. 

Lks  I'rktres  T)<^:roRTKS  (4^^  S.  ix.  70.) — Your 
correspondent  should  consult  the 

"Journal  historique  de  KKmigration  et  Deportation  du 
Cleric  de  Franee  en  An^htterre,  par  TAbhe  de  Luhersae, 
Vicaii"C-(jemTal  de  Narhonne.     l*ondon,  1HU2,  8vo." 

The  book  was  published  under  the  patronage 
of  George  III.,  to  whom  it  is  dedicated. 

C.  Elliot  Browxi:. 

CooKSKY :  Throckmorton,  etc.  (4**»  S.  viii. 
passim;  ix.  00.) — 1  quite  agree  with  H.  S.  G. 
that  the  Throckmorton  coat  *' presents  some  dif- 
iiculties,"  and  I  am  fully  prepared  to  wait  sine  die 
for  tiieir  solution.  11.  S.  G.  now  explains  that  it 
is  n«it  the  coat  with  th»?  tliree  nrr()ws  2  and  1,  but 
that  with  "a chevron  between  three  bolts,"  which 
was  conveved  from  IJosom  to  Throirkmorton, 
through  Oiney;  and  1  am  further  to  understand, 
in  the  meantime,  that  there  are  no  arrows  amongst 
the  quarterings  in  que-^tion  —  **only  birdbolts." 
The  word  dictum  referred  to  was  not  used  by  me 
with  reference  to  engravings  but  to  the  text, 
where  my  inference  seems  fair  enough. 

Not  only  Hales,  but  Littlehailes  and  other 
families  bear  arrows,  but  I  am  n«)t  quite  sure 
(even  apart  from  the  tinctures),  that  they  are  pre- 
cisely similar  to  those  of  Archer  of  Tamworth. 
This  is  another  quei^tion. 

In  conclusion,  I  may  bt^  pardoned  for  having 
raised  what,  nt'l'.'r  all,  Jipptiurs  to  have  been  a 
reasonable  doubt,  for  the  original  question  still 
remains  in  stdtu  t^iitt.  1  acknowledge  the  patience, 
research,  and  ing«"nuity  ui'  11.  S.  (J.,  and  like  him 
all  tlie  better  fur  having  used  his  quarter-stall' so 
well.  I  am  satislied,  until  something  should  turn 
up  to  blunt  th<»  arrows,  or  sharnun  the  birdbolts, 
and  so  decide  the  question.  Sr. 

In  the  Visihifioii  af  Oj-funhhirr,  lo74;  and  just 
edited  by  my  friend  Mr.  W.  II.  Turner  for  the 
Harleian  Society,  T  think  II.  S.  (J.  and  8p.  will 
find  the  blazonng«)f  the  arms  of  th'^rhrockmorton 
family,  with  their  various  quarterings,  as  dis- 
played in  their  mansion-house  at  Chastleton  in 
Oxfordshire  at  the  above  date. 

II.VRRT  S  Ay  BARS. 

Oxford. 


Braydkd:  liRATDKS  {A^  S.  Tiii.  398,  487.)— 
P(?rhap3  the  following  lines  will  throw  some  light 
on  the  meaning  of  the  word  hraydcd: — 

"  A  dolefulle  syjjjhte  the  knyghte  gane  see 
Of  his  wyfe  and  his  childir  three 

That  fro  the  lire  were  flede, 
A  lie  as  nakcdc  als  they  were  borne, 
Stode  toiiedir  under  a  thornc, 
Braydmin  owte  of  thaire  bcdd." 

The  lines  are  taken  from  the  English  romance- 
of  Sir  IsumhraSf  and  are  quoted  in  Wright*;^ 
Domestic  Manners, 

The  word  hrat/dfide scema  here  to  mean'' drive: 
out,*'  and  in  part  bears  out  N.'s  suggestion  tha 
it  means  "dodged." 

Ed.  Llewellyn  Gwillhi. 

^I  ail  borough,  Wilts.    • 

Invasion  of  Switzerland  by  the  Englis: 


(l*"^  S.  vii.  30.)— In  l,-i75,  Enguerrand  de  Coui 
(^ount  of  Soissons,  was  at  war  with  the  duk) 
Albert  and  licopold  of  Austria  concerning  t 
marriage  portion  of  Catharina  his  mother, 
eldest  daughter  of  Leopold.  He  united  wi 
Edward  III.,  whose  wife  was  another  daugh 
of  the  same  duke.  Edward  raised  an  army  in  1: 
dominions,  and  with  it  and  Enguerrand's  men  i 
vaded  Alsatia,  threatened  Basel,  penetrated  in 
Switzerland,  which  they  lay  waste  until  the  pei 
pie  of  the  mountains  having  rallied,  fell  u 
these  foreign  adventurers,  defeated  them  at 
points,  and  drove  them  back  to  France.  The  E: 
lish  numbered  6000  men,  and  formed  the 
majority  of  Enguerrand's  army.  They  ravaffC*/ 
the  whole  country  between  the  Canton  of  ZuncA 
and  the  burgh  of  Neufchatel,  which  they  left  un- 
touched on  account  of  the  firm  attitude  taken  by 
the  warlike  Countess  Isabella  and  her  people; 
but  revenged  themselves  for  this  by  pillaging  and 
destroying  a  small  abbey  (Fons  Andrese),  two  miles 
north-east  of  Neufchatel.  This  event  was  chroni- 
cled in  the  following  mahner  on  the  inside  cover 
of  the  mnrtyrology  of  the  convent  (See  mv 
Monuments  de  Ihistoire  de  Neitchdtelj  2  vols.  foL 
1844)  :- 

"Xotuin  sit  omnibus  pra'r«cnsscriptuin  inspecturia  quod 
siio  anno  mVC(,-«lxx^»  quinto,  die  nativitatis  Domini  noio 
iri  .losu  Ohristi  abbatiu  ista  fuit  penitus  destracta  pi^ 
Hritonos  dc  Britania,  qui  hue  fucrunt  conducti  per  domi- 
luiin  de  Cussi,  contra  duoeiii  Austrie,  tempore  regiminis 
fratris  (juillelmi  de  Valle  Transversa,  abbatis  hujua  eocle- 
sic  Fontis  Aiidree.'' 

The  tradition  of  that  invasion,  is  still  living  in 
several  parts  of  Switzerland,  where  some  plibcea 
of  defeat  are  still  called  English  hills,  terlres 
anf/Iais/*  &c. 

i  think  the  fable  of  William  Tell  (William  the 
Tall)  originated  in  the  times  of  that  invasioBi 
and  in  the  recital  of  some  of  the  Englisn  legends, 
which  contain  the  chief  marble  block  out  of  which 
tlie  poetical  imagination  of  the  .Swiss  has  cat  a 
hero.  '  Obo.  A.  M. 

Tatont  Office,  Wnshington,  D.C. 


IX.  Feb.  17,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


147 


•p  =  Preveijt  (4*'»  S.  ix.  5(J.) — To  help  is  to 

Then  we  have,  as  the  dictionaries  show, 
p  oiUj  ifpj  orer^  off.  Then  in  Shakespere  to 
,  in  the  sense  of  to  cure  :  **  To  help  him  of 
idness.*'  Then  comes  the  sense  of  to  prevetit 
lery  and  also  to  forbear  and  avoid.  Ellipsis 
!ve  to  be  the  only  principle  upon  which 
eming  contradiction  can  be  reconciled.  "  I 
lot  help  letting  the  plate  fall,''  becomes,  if 

up  what  custom  and  brevity  have  elided, 
Id  not  help  [m3'self  from]  letting  the  plate 

The  verb  thus  becomes  reflective :  to  help 
'  from  any  thing  or  action  is  to  escape  from 
hing,  or  from  performing  such  an  action, 
lid  not  escape,  prevent,  forbear,  avoid  let- 
le  plate  fall."  Swift  says,  *^  Those  few 
fside  among  us  only  because  they  caimot 
'' ;  i.  e.  because  tht^y  cannot  escape  or  help 
Ivea  from  so  residing.      Help  or  assistance 

the  j^iving  of  aid  to  some  one  ;  to  save  him 
)me  inconvenience  is  to  hinder  the  approach 

objectionable  thing.  If,  then,  in  lieu  of 
:  another  vou  help  vom*self  from  the  com- 
.  of  an  act,  you  prevtait  the  act  from  taking 

AVhen  a  man  helps  himself  against  some- 
.xternal  to  him,  he  hinders  or  prevents  that 
^o  that  the  ellip&is  explains  all.  A  work 
lish  elliptical  phrases  would  be  extremely 
e  if  done  by  a  man  like  Home  Tooke ;  but 
pated  men  like  Crabbe  of  the  synonyms 
be  warned  off.  We  had  better  wait  till 
lerciful  German  shall  help  us.     C.  A.  W. 

fTOWSKT,  BuONATAKTE's  FAITHFUL  Po'LISH 

KXT  (4^^  8.  ix.  ,'J.) — The  following  details 
ittached  follower  of  the  fallen  emperor  may 
thought  unworthy  of  transcription  by  the 
of  Lord  Lyttelton's  very  interesting  notes 
jonversations  with  Napoleon  on  board  the 
mberland : — 

ain  Piontowski,  an  officer  in  the  Polish  troops 

to  Buonaparte's  person,  wlio  liad  accompanied 
21ba,  and  had  n  command  in  the  little  army  that 
n  France,  formed  one  of  the  suite  which  accom- 
he  px-emperor  to  JCn.ucland.  He  was,  however, 
o  attf^nd  the  exile  of  his  fallen  master.  The  dis- 
iient  he  .suffered  on  the  occasion  was  extreme, 
fetill  continued  to  persevere  in  his  application  to 
lat  fortune  to  which  a  sense  of  the  most  ardent 
tiunate  duty  impelled  him.  Notwithstandinj:^  a 
n  Franc"',  to  whom  he  had  been  betrothed,  joined 
^Ivmouth  and  married  him,  he  .'•till  most  zeal- 
if-red  to  his  (»ri;;inal  obj<'Ct ;  and  havinfj  at  length 

the  sanction  of  government,  he  took  his  passncce 
e-ship  for  St.  Helena.    The  arrival  of  this  faith- 
rer  was  not  expected  :  Napoleon,  however,  could 
je  sen-'ible  r>f  his  attarhiniont,  and  received  him  ! 
idnps.-'.     But  neither  his  hituation  nor  his  man-   ' 
3  such  as  to  associate  him  with  the  suite,  nor  did  ! 
Bsty  apjiear  to  expect  it.      An  apartment  was  ■ 

him  by  the  {generals;  and  Mr.  O'Meara,  the  | 
thinking  he  was  neglected,  with  that  goodness  ' 

and  generous  nature  which  distinguishes  his  , 
*,  made  him  welcome  to  his  table.   Such  were  the  > 


amiable  and  unassuming  manners  of  this  romantic  Pole, 
that  the  distant  treatment  of  him  was  a  subject  of  general 
animadversion,  and  a  want  of  generous  feeling  was  attri- 
buted to  Napoleon  for  inattention  to  such  an  evident 
example  of  fidelity.  13ut  this  aftenvards  appeared  to  be  a 
groundless  suspicion.  The  Caiitain  occupied  his  garret 
during  the  night,  and  occasionally  amused  himself  with 
his  ^un  during  the  day  ;  hnpp}*  in  the  enthusiastic  satis- 
faction of  sharing  the  fate  of  the  great  object  of  his 
idolatry.  It  happened,  however,  in  one  of  his  sporting 
excursions,  that  liis  piece  accidentally  went  off  in  the  act 
of  loading  it,  and  very  severely  wounded  liis  right  hand. 
With  this  mischdncc* Napoleon  became  acquainted,  and 
expressed  a  desire  to  see  and  console  him ;  but  previous 
to  the  execution  of  this  kind  intention,  a  female  servant 
of  General  Montholon  was  removed  from  one  of  the  very 
comfortable  rooms  at  Long^vood,  and  Piontowski  was  con- 
veyed thither.  The  following  day  Napoleon  paid  him 
the  projected  visit,  but  without  suspecting  he  had  been 
in  any  other  apartment,  and  amply  repaid  his  devoted 
Pole  for  the  wound  in  his  hand,  by  giving  such  a  warm 
delight  to  his  honest  and  friithful  heart," — Letters  written 
on  board  his  Majesty's  Ship  the  Northumberland  and  at 
St.  Helena^  ^'c.  By  William  Warden,  Surgeon  on  board 
the  Northumberland,  2nd  ed.    London,  1810,  8vo,  p.  204. 

William  Bates,  B.A. 

Birmingham. 

Baron  Bunsen  (4'**  S.  ix.  55.) — At  p.  311  of 
the  Memoir^  hy  the  Baroness  Bunsen  (vol.  ii., 
18G8),  it  is  stated  that  the  late  King  of  Prussia 
addressed  the  Baron  as  "  Doctor  Theologiaj,"  and 
that  the  latter  wrote  a  long  letter  in  answer 
signed  "  Dixit  ex  cathedra,  Doctor  Theologije." 

H.  F.  T. 

Lettice  Knollts  (4*'*  S.  viii.  480 ;  ix.  65.) — 
A  lengthy  and  Tery  interesting  account  of  this 
lady  and  her  family  occupies  a  large  portion  of 
vol.  i.  of  Craik*s  Romance  of  the  Peerage,  For 
another  biopaphy  of  this  lady^  see  GentlenuxrCs 
Magazine,  March  1846. 

Lot  815  in  Messrs.  Puttick  &  Simpson's  Cata- 
logue of  the  MSS.,  Autographs,  &c.,  of  Robert 
Cole,  Esq.  (sold  July  29, 1801,  &c.)  is— 

"Deed  of  sale  to  Thomas  Hill  of  Honeley,  co.  War- 
wick, by  Sir  Christopher  Blounte,  and  of  the  Lady  Let- 
tice, Countess  of  Leicester  his  wife,  of  all  theur  right  in 
the  manors  of  Iloneley  and  BlacknelLs  for  500/.,  with  their 
signatures."    These,  it  is  added,  are  "  extremely  rare." 

The  Gentleman's  Magazine,  May  1849,  p.  522> 

mentions — 

"  Inventories  of  the  personal  properties  of  Countess 
Lettice,  and  of  the  Dowager  Countess  of  Leicester,  at 
Essex  House,  taken  January*  and  February,  1635.  Com-  ' 
municated  from  the  original  roll,  with  notes  by  J.  O. 
Ilalliwell,  Esq.,  to  the  Archseolo^cal  Association,  and  by 
them  to  the  Societv  of  Antiquanes." 

S.  M.  S. 

lioBnEDEHOT  (4''*  S.  viii.  451.) — The  word  is 
used  also  in  the  forms  "  hobbledehoy  "  and  *'  hob- 
bardehoy."  A  short  time  ago  St.  Swithin  sug- 
gested that  the  term  "  hobbedehoy  "  owes  its 
origin  to  the  "  hobilles,''  or  short  jackets  which 
boys  until  recently  wore.  I  wish  to  propose 
another  derivation  for  the  word.     Tusser,  in  his 


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NOTES  AND  QUEHIES. 


[4t»i  S.  IX.  Feb.  17,  72. 


FHve  Hundred  Pomtes  of  good  Hushandrie  (p.  105, 
ed.  1604),  gives  a  poem  of  twelve  lines  containing 
directions  for  the  various  employment  of  the 
twelve  "  ages."  of  human  life,  each  age  compris- 
ing a  period  of  ''seven"  years.  The  first  four 
lines  run  thus: — 

"The  first  seaveu  yceres  bring  up  as  a  cLild, 
The  next  to  l-.arning,  for  waxinjjf  too  wihl ; 
The  next  keep  under,  Sir  Ilohbanl  do  Hoy, 
The  next  a  nmn — no  longer  a  boy/' 

The  derivation  suggested  by  the  third  line-^ 
which  deals  with  the  vouth  between  fourteen  and" 
twenty-one — seems  much  more  plausible  than 
that  of  St.  Switiiix.  AVho  Sir  Ilobbai-d  de  Hoy 
was  I  have  been  unable  to  iind  out;  perhaps 
Bomc  of  your  readers  can  throw  light  on  th«»  sub- 
ject. II.  I>.  F. 

Henri  Dkcx  Wark  (4"'  S.  ix.  ;58.)— In  I'art  i. 
of  the  Cafahtftie  of  the  /Sjufciai  E.vhihitiun  of  Works 
of  Art,  <Sv.,  on  Loan  to  tho  Satdh  Kvumigton  Mu- 
seum, 1802,  is  an  excellent  article  by  .1.  ('.  Hubin- 
son  on  this  subject.  Added  to  this  is  a  list  of  all 
the  pieces  then  (.Tuly,  1S02)  known  to  be  uxtant, 
with  descriptions  of  those  exhibited  at  that  time. 

S.  M.  S. 

"  WUYCHCOTTE   OF    St.   JoUX's,'*    Vol.    ill.    -302 

(4^  S.  viii.  .042.) — May  1  iu«k  if  any  key  has  ever 
been  published?  If  nut,  wlio  was  "the  mayor  of 
Liverpool''  referred  to  in  vol.  ii.  p.  ].'U,  tht)  ** for- 
tunate youth"  (same  page),  and  '*  Kobin.son  the 
cracksman,  and  in  th»^  royal  cortt'go ''  at  th<^  iic- 
cession  of  Louis  Philippe  'f  8.  O. 

Deeside  :  James  13iiowx  (4^*^  S.  viii.  r>27 ;  ix. 
81.) — On  the  title-page  of  a  book  in  my  posses- 
sion, Hpitdph'i  and  yinivnuciital  In^vrlptiunn  in 
Oreiff rial's  ChHrchtjard,  12iuo,  I^dinburgh,  1H(;7, 
the  collector  of  tliem,  James  Iirown,  kifop'jr  of 
the  grounds,  is  exprt^^sly  called  *'  Autlior  of  tlu^ 
Dee^idc  Guide."  .Vet  it  is  vi.-ry  pro])ablo  that  a 
man  once  in  f^n  humble  a  po.sition  a^  thnt  of  a 
car-driver,  as  Mit.  Clyn'e  nientit)ns  him  to  havo 
lilled,  was  indebted  to  othei-s  for  much  of  the 
varied  information  given  in  the  works  piibliph<'d 
under  his  nann*.  In  fact  he  moiitii)]is  his  obliga- 
tions to  several  men  of  learning  with  r*»t\'renc*^  to 
his  Book  of  Epitaphs  in  (wrvpfriars  C/no'chi/drd, 
in  the  preiacf.  It  is  a  book  vory  well  edited, 
and  will  be  the  means  ol'  resciilnir  many  valuabU' 
monumental  insiiriplions  from  oblivion,  when  the 
originals  have  been  cllaccd  by  the  tooth  of  f.:7npu.'^ 
(da.c. 

At  p.  2:J8  vt  s<ff.  of  tlio  Hook  of  Epitaph:^,  Mr. 
Brown  quotes  a  Latin  epit}i])h  on  the  c«'lebrated 
criminal  lawyer.  Sir  (ieorge  Mv.ekenzie,  the  king's 
advocate,  and  the  pro.-erulor  ot'  the  Covenanters 
in  the  reigns  of  Charles  11.  and  James  If.,  *•  from 
an  extra  leaf  added  to  somti  copies  of  Monteith's 
'Theatre  of  Mortality,  published  in  1704."  On  the 
mausoleum   itself^  the  most  conspicuous  monu- 


ment in  the  Greyfriars,  there^is  no  inscription^ 
though  beneath  it  rest  the  '^bluidy  advocate 
Mackenzie,"  his  son-in-law  Lord  Koystoim,.and 
Sir  George  Lockhart  of  Lee,  who  was  murdered 
by  Jolm  Chiesley  of  Daln* — a  circumstance  al- 
luded to  by  Sir*  Walter  Scott  in  the  Bride  of 
Lammcnnoor*  Tiie  place  where  the  epitaphs  on 
these  eminent  lawyers  was  originally  iuscrioed  is 
not  mentioned.      '  Jonw  PicitFOKD,  M.A. 

Ilungatc  Street,  Pickering;. 

The  liADiEs'  LinRAUY :  Eliza  Steele  (4"*  S. 
ix.   r)(».) — Kliza  (or  Elizabeth)   Steele   was   the    . 
daughter  of  John  IJaron  Trevor  of  Uromham,  in 
the  county  of  IJedford,  and  was  the  wife  ot*  Sir 
KicharJ  Steeh>,  th(»  author  of  the  C7iriAfii:n  Hero, 
and  the  co- editor  with  Addison  of  Th<'  Spectator. 
Her  grandfather.  Sir  Thomas  Trevor,  an  eminent 
lawyjT,  and  Chief  Justice  of  the  Common  Pleas, 
the  lir?t  JJaron  Trevor  of  Dromham,  was  one  of 
the  twelve  peers  created  by  Queen  Anne  in  one 
day.     In  a  small  library  over  the  south  porch  of 
]?romham  church  there  was  a  copy  of  The  Spccta- 
torj  on  the  title-page  of  which  was  written,  just 
•as  J.  M.  describes,  *' in  a  bold  but  neat  female— 
liand,  '  Eliza  :  Trevor.'  "     ^ly  impression  is,  that=:= 
I^ady  St»'ele  had  only  one  child,  a  daughter,  who^ 
died  young  ;  but  this  point  coiUd  be  easily  tiscer— — 
tained.  Jonx  Pickford",  M.A, 

l!un»^tt»  Stref;t,  Pir.kerin;^. 

Novelists'  Eloweks  (4'''  S.  viii.  540  •  is.  85.) 

I  am  not  acquainted  with  the  work  quoted  b^^ 
]\f"it.  IjKittex,  and  therefore  cannot  sav  whether 

it^  botanical  statements  are  of  nmch  value.     Bu 

1  Iind  nothing  to  carp  at  in  the  few  sentence ' 

quoted  by  Mil.  15ritten'.     It  is  diflicult  even  t— - 
gue<s  what  is  meant  by  '*  marsh  lilies,"  a*  th 
term  is  applicable  to  so  many  varieties  of  LUinn  -^ 
fiumd  in   marsh v  or  ill-drained  meadow:!.     Th—  " 
wild   tulips  may  be  meant;    or  it  may  be  tl»-  • 
Lilimn  hu'hiforttm,  or  the  A'<i7*«W  =  wild  dailbdil^^ 

liy   the  *' tall    white  tf/eknideas"   is   probably 
meiuit  thi' Lurknis  f/os  (tuidiy  the  cuckoo 
of  our  children  rnui   our  peasants:   and  also 
Shake-^pnare,  in  his  charming  song  — 

"  When  daisi«"S  pud,  nnd  vidlcts  blue."' 

The  Fri'ueh  name  is  lychnide :  the  German  nao*^ 
bfrklnifkt' :  and  we  sometimes  Iind  a  Latinise"*^ 
form,  h/chnidca.  The  w«»rd  Igchnideas  of  to^ 
novidist  seems  an  lOnglish  plural  to  hfchnidca, 

1  do  n<»t  iind  nnythinjr  extraordinary,  or  th^^ 
merits  a  !,  in  "bulrushes   growing  in  a   fields' 
Wherever  there  is  moisture,  plants  of  the  JwmM^ 
tribe   will   have   a  home   and   flourish  —  a  faiC?^ 

*  Blind  Ali'-o  allndi's  to  his  munler  by  Chicdev  to  S>^ 
William  A '•titon, -who  replies  that  Chie&ley*6  panishmcKt^ 
nuist  liave  atteil  as  a  wurnint?  to  others.  A  note  by  tl»* 
author  adds  tliat  Chi<»5*loy  hart  "  pistolled **  («>)  S**" 
Gourde  Lockhart  on  his  rclnm  from  chnrub,  and  that  ll^ 
wa:?  executed. 


4<k  &  IX.  Feb.  17, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


149 


tliat  an  accomplished  botaniFt,  like  Mb.  James 
Bbitten,  need  not  be  reminded  of. 

The  most  common  German  name  of  the  little 
blue  speedwell  is  Ehrenpreia,  i.  e.  *^  honour's  prize '' 
or  "  reward."  But  it  is  also  called  JJacnner  trette, 
i.e.  **  man's  faith,"  "fidelity/*  or  "constancy"; 
and  it  may  be  from  the  le^^end  related  by  the 
novelist.  This  name  appears  to  be  more  local 
than  general. 

The  bulrush  calls  to  remembrance  a  Craven 
anecdote,  which  is  worthy  of  record.  Some  forty 
years  or  so,  the  dales  district  had  a  professional 
**  ratten  an'  mowdwarp "  catcher,  called  Moses. 
It  was  his  Christian  name,  and  I  presume  that  he 
bad  another  one ;  but  he  was  always  known  as 
Moses,  lie  was  an  eccentric  character,  and  had 
no  dislike  to  *■  a  glass  o'  rum  an'  waiter " — an 
amiable  failing  to  which  "  varmint "  killers  are 
generally  addicted.  He  was  always  saying  "that 
remiuds  me,"  &c.  In  fact,  his  discourse  was 
always  full  of  similitudes  and  reminiscences.  On 
one  occasion,  when  wading  through  Linton  Beck, 
he  slipped  and  lay  prostrate  among£>t  some  water- 
wee  Is.  Some  countrymen,  who  were  highly 
amused  at  the  disaster,  called  out  **  What  does 
that  remind  you  of?"  *'Why,''  said  the  rat- 
catcher, "of  Moses  among  the  bulrushes!" — a 
bit  of  ready  wit  that  proved  he  was  no  great  fool 
after  all.  Stepufjj  Jackson  (Murithian). 

Mr.  Brt nine's  queries  respecting  tbe  flowers 
of  Clermmcif  Frmihlin  have  been  forwarded  to  the 
author,  ^lio  is  at  Cannes.  As  regards  the  laest,  I 
would,  in  the  mean  time,  rcfur  him  to  the  follow- 
ing quotation  from  GJiethe's  de?cription  of  one  of 
Albert  Diirer's  portraits  of  himself,  a?  translated 
in  Mrs.  Chailes  1  lea  ton's  it/r,  p.  60.  Ho  has  in  bLs 
hand  **  a  piece  of  the  significant  blue  flower  called 
in  Germany  *  man's-faith '  (Mamis-treue).'^ 

Austin  Dobsox. 

FiNJ)KRNE  Flowers  (4^  S.  \nL  passim;  ix.  2:1, 
80.) — My  authority  for  the  t^tateuient  that  the 
Narctsxus  pocticus  is  not  a  native  of  l^ilestine,  is, 
that  none  of  tbe  botanical  authors  whom  I  have 
consulted  (and  they  are  many)  give  it  as  such. 
Mr.  J.  G.  Baker,  the  most  rocent  authority  on  tlie  ! 
subject,  fiays  uf  A".  jx)dicu.<,  in  his  "  review'*  of  the 
^nus  {Journal  of  Botovu,  viii.  1 1  1^,  ].^70-l ),  that 
It  extenJa  *'as  a  wild  plant  all  Ihruauh  tin*  south 
of  Europe,  from  France  to  (Trooc(\"     Mr.  Tkar- 
80N  is  in  error  in  supposing  thai  1  ya.s  (scarcely  a 
high  authority  iu  such  matters)  "gives  Aly^w/Zr/w 
as  being  a  native  of  that  countrv."    He  refers  (o/?. 
cit  p.  lL>JV)  to  "the  groat  jonquil  (X.  calatkinmY' 
as  "  found  in  Palestine  and  Syria  " — a  name  regard- 
ing which  there  is  probably  somo   mistake,   as, 
according  to  Mr.  Baker,  neither  of  the  plants  to 
which  it  is  applied  occurs  in  the  Holy  Land.  The 
only  species  native  to  Palestine  appears  to  be 
JK  mrotinuM.  Jajcks  BiiinEN,  F.L.S. 


"Board  "  (4«*»  S.  ix.  93.)—"  To  make  a  board,  is 
making  a  stretch  on  any  tack  when  a  ship  is  work- 
ing to  windward."  (Hamilton  Mooye's  Navigation,^ 
To  "  make  a  good  hoard  "  is  to  get  on  well  in  a 
stretch  to  windward.  This  seems  the  same  idea* 
as  that  involved  in  the  quotations  at  p.  93 — to  get 
on  in  spite  of  adverse  intiuences.  W.  G. 

There  is,  I  think,  little  doubt  that  the  meaning 
is  that  an  old  good  servant  saves  what  is  equiva- 
lent to  the  "  board  "  of  a  child.  I  have  oftfen 
heard  the  expression  with  reference  to  some  piece 
of  extravagance,  "  Why,  it's  the  board  of  a  ser- 
vant." "  F.  G. 

lx\  the  phrase,  "  an  old  good  servant  hoardn  a 
child,"  the  word  boards  is 'not  well  spelt.  It 
should  rather  be  lords — t.  <».  approaches,  from  Fr. 
abordtr,  to  approach.  It  is  common  in  Shake- 
spearti  and  hpenser  in  the  sense  of  accostty  to 
which  word  it  is  a  close  equivalent.  For  alorder 
means  to  come  to  the  edge  of,  and  accost  is  to 
come  to  tjho  side  of.  In  the  phrases  to  hord — /.  e. 
approach  a  ship,  and  to  go  on  board  of  a  ship,  the 
two  words  lord  and  board  have  become  hopelessly 
confused.  ^^ Accost  is,  front  her,  boord  her,  woo 
her,  assail  her''  {Twelfth  Aighty  i.  .*3);  "  I'm  sure 
he  is  in  the  fleet,  I  would  he  had  hKtrdvd  me  " 
{Much  Adof  ii.  1.)  The  spelling  b'jord  is  that  of 
the  First  Folio.  Walter  W.  Skeat. 

1,  Cintra  Terrace,  Cambridge. 

Hornkck  and  Jessauy  (4*^  S.  ix.  04.) — Mb. 
BoNf:  has  been  rather  sparing  with  data  whereon 
to  construct  a  reply  to  his  query.  Howe\'w,  1 
think  it  can  be  done.  About  a  century  ago 
"  jfssamy  "  was  a  vulgar  contraction  for  jessamine; 
and  at  that  ])eriod  "jessamine  sprig,"  in  the  Mid- 
lands, was  an  equivalent  term  for  dandy  or  fop, 
originating,  no  doubt,  from  the  custom  of  wearing 
that  ilower,  as  we  now  obseive.the  youth  of  our 
age  trudging  "  to  oflice,"  with  paper  collar  on 
nock,  dinner  in  pocket,  and  moss  rose  in  button- 
hole. 

The  term,  then,  "  his  Jigg  and  his  Jessamy " 
would  doubtless  mean  his  giggling  daughter  and 


frivolous  son. 
Castle  Uromwleh. 


C.  ClIATTOCli. 


"I   SHJH  AX1>  lament  ME/'  ETC.  (4*^  S.  ix.  05.) 

I  hav«»  brfore  nio  The  Bouquvt^  cotuposcd  of  Three-' 
and-Tv'viitu  Ar?r  Songi^.  (Derby  :  Priulod  for  the 
Travelling  Statinnern,  170*3.)  Song  twenty-one 
is  entitled  "  C^ueen  Mary's  Lamentation,*'  and  as 
it  varies  in  some  particulars  from  the  versos 
quoted  by  Mr.  IiATcrjFJ?i:,  and  also  supplies 
three  additional  stanzas,  I  venture  to  give  it  ver- 
batim : — 

**  1  \rv^\\  and  lAinent  me  in  vain, 

Tb«'se  walli*  can  but  eclio  my  moan  ; 
Alas  !  it  increases  my  pain. 

When  I  tiiink  ou  live  <Va\&  VWX  tix^  \^o\i^. 


150 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4'hS.IX.  Feb.  17,72. 


"  Thro'  the  ffcatc  of  my  prison  I  see 
The  birds  as  thev  wanton  in  air  : 
My  lieart  how  it  i»ants  to  he  tree, 
^ly  looks  they  arc  wihl  with  despair.  • 

'•  Above  tho*  oppi*ess'd  by  my  fate, 
1  burn  with  oontemjjt  of  my  tbos ; 
Though  Fortune  has  altered  my  rtato, 
She  ne'er  can  subdue  lue  to  thwse. 

*'  False  woman,  in  ages  to  come 
Thj'  malice  detested  shall  be  ; 
And  when  we  are  cold  in  the  tomb. 
Some  heart  still  will  sorrow  for  me. 

•*  Ye  roofs  where  cold  damps  and  dismay 
With  silence  and  solitude  dwell  ; 
How  comfortless  passes  tlie  day. 
How  sad  tolls  the  evening  bell. 

*'  Tlie  owl**  from  the  battlements  cry, 

Hollow  winds  seem  to  murmur  around, 
*0  Mary  prepare  thee  Tt>  dik  I ' 
Mv  blood  it  runs  cold  at  the  sound." 

J.  Charles  Cox. 

Hazelwood,  iJelper. 

These  yersetj  cannot  possibly  be  by  Mary  Stuart. 
Their  structure  indicates  that  they  are  eighteenth 
or  early  nineteenth  century  work.  I  think  I  saw 
them  set  to  music  about  thirty  years  ago, 

Edward  Peacock. 

These  versos  have   notliing    to  do  with  the 

unhappy  queen,  beyond  tho  title.     They  were 

written  about  a  hundred  years  ago,  and  sung  at 

one  of  the  public  places  of  amusement.    I  have  a 

contemporary  broadside  printed  with  the  music. 

The  air  is  yery  poor,  destitute  of  character,  and 

full  of  what  is  called  the  "  Scotch  snap."  ^  The 

song  is  alsc    printed  (with  the    same  music)  in 

Calliope  J   or   the  JMimcal  MiscelUimjj   1788,   8vo, 

p.  110.     Hoth  copies  contiiin  three  stanzas  more 

than  are  giyen  by  your  correspondent.     Tho  two 

following  come  after  the  lirst : — 

**Thro*  the  grate  of  my  prison  I  see 
The  birds  as  they  wanton  in  air; 
My  heart  how  it  ])ants  to  be  free. 
My  looks  they  are  wild  with  despair. 

*•  Above  tho'  ojjprest  by  my  fate, 

I  burn  with  contempt  lor  my  foes; 
Tho*  fortune  has  alter'd  my  state 
She  ne'er  can  subilue  me  to  those.'' 

The  remaining  one  precedes  the  last : — 
*'  Ye  roofs  where  cold  damps  and  dismay, 
With  sik'n«'«'  and  Folitude  dwell ; 
How  comfortless  ]ias,scs  the  day, 
How  sad  tolls  the  evening  bell." 

Mr.  RatcltfI-'E  is  welcome  to  a  copy  of  the 
music,  if  he  desires  to  possess  it. 

There  is  a  Latin  elegy,  said  to  haye  been  written 
by  Mary  in  prison,  which  is  given  in  Seward's 
Anecdotes  with  an  Englii-h  paraphrase,  and  a 
plaintive  air  composed  by  Dr.  Harrington  of  Bath. 
It  begins— 

"  0  Dominc  Deus !  spcravi  in  te." 

The  English  version — 

"  In  the  last  solemn  and  tremendous  hour.'' 


With  regard  to  the  '^  many  pleasing  venes" 
of  this  queen,  I  am  afraid  that  tney  are  few  and 
far  between.  All  that  is  known  about  ^lem  may 
be  seen  in  Wnlpole's  JRoyal  and  Noble  Aftthon, 
edit.  Park,  v.  02.  fimvARD  F.  Rimbattlt. 

LxDY  Alice  Koerton  (4'»»  S.  ix.  04.)7-The 

lady  in  Milton's  Comua  was  pwnted  by  Wright  of 

Derby,  and  formed  one  of  a  collection  of  twenty- 

fiye  of  his  own  works '  exhibited  by  him  at  Mr. 

llobins's  Kooms,  No.  1),  under  the  Great  Piazza, 

Coyent  Garden,  in  1785.    It  is  thus  described  i 

the  catalogue,  but  is  not  marked  for  sale  :-t- 

«  Xo.  1. 
The  Lady  in  Milton's  Comugf  verse  221, 
Was  I  deceiv'd,  or  did  a  sable  cloud 
Turn  forth  her  silver  lining  on  the  night  ? 
I  did  not  err,  there  docs  a  sable  cloud 
Turn  forth  her  silver  lining  on  the  night, 
And  casts  a  gleam  over  this  tufted  grove:" 


A  fine  mezzotint  cngraying  of   this  jmctiK^ 
(now  very  scarce),  measuring  21 J  in.  by  17 J  i 
was  published  by  J.  K.  Smith,  31,  King  Str 
Covent  Garden,  i'eb.  30, 1789.     The  lady  is 
presented  seated  on  the  ground  in  a  thick  gro 
of  trees.    Tho  moon,  just  breaking  through  tl 
clouds,  throws  a  gleam  of  silyery  light  on  t! 
lady's  features  aild  some  portions  of  her  djcesa, 
reveals  the  trunks  of  the  surrounding  trees,  wi 
a  distant  landscape  shrouded  in  gloom. 

There  is  an  engrayed  portrait  of   the  Hi 
Thomas  Egerton  (in  4to  by  Evans),  one  of 
performers  in  Milton's  ComuSf  at  Ludlow  Castle- 

Edwin  Cooling,  Junib. 

Derby. 

PoYNTz  F.iMTLY  (4'^  S.  ix.  105.) — ^I  am  greatlf^ 
obliged  to  V,  K.  for  his  communication,  and  hB 
reference  to  Mr.  Croker's  interesting  note  respect- 
ing Cowdray  and  its  "  fatal  inheritance,"  but  I 
should  be  glad  if  he  could  give  me  any  informa- 
tion respecting  tho  *'  older  stories  *'  it  alludes  t(S 
in  addition  to  the  '*  curse  of  fire  and  water"  that 
had  fallen  on  the  family  of  Montagu  as  holders  of 
a  large  amount  of  church  property,  for  they  pos- 
sessed the  spoils  of  no  loss  than  six  former  monas- 
teries. C.  L,  AV.  C. 


NOTES  ON  BOOKS.  ETC. 

Saint  Chn/ifostomf  hig  Life  and  Time*.     A  Skttch  of  th* 
Church  and  the  Empire  in  the.  Fourth  Centurv,     By  tkt 
llev.  \V.  i:.  W.  Stephens,   M.A.,  Balliol  ColL  Osop, 
and  Vicar  of  Miil-Lavant,  Sussex.    JVitk  a  PortraiL 
(Murray.) 

'I'he  writer  well  observes  that  there  are  many  names  in 
1  history  familiar  to  us  from  our  vcir  childhoocl,  while  of 
the  personal  cliaraoter  and  actaa)  life  of  those  who  bon 
them  we  are  utterly  ignorant.  We  know  their  t«leiiti| 
their  energy,  the  influence  for  good  or  ill  which  tb^ 
exercised  over  their  fellow  men— yet  of  their 


r.J 


:.  Fbb.  17,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


lol 


individuality,  their  share  in  our  common 
i  know  comparatively  notliing.  St.  Chrysostom 
hese  historic  influences.  Wis  voice  is  still  heard 
,  yet  of  the  man  himself  few  possess  more  than 
is't  knowledge.  lie  is  one  (if  many  who  plaved 
ft  in  the  drama  of  his  tinie^  but  his  individuality  j 
the  busy  crowd  of  no  le-'s  important  actors  by  i 

is  surrounded.     It  is  Mr.  St'.'idiens'  obji;ot  to 

for  a  while  alone  lufore  us,  an<l  in  making  us 

I  with  the  story  of  his   lifi»,   his  studies,   his 

le-  makes  him  no  longer  wli;it  .he  has  been — a 

t  a  reality  ;  and  thi-^,  too,  not  by  wit lui rawing 

the  work  in  which  he  was  cngagL-d,  but  by 
IS  how  ho  intiucnocd  it,  and  tin'  share  ho  to!>k 
i"  result  is  what  the  author  intended — not  only 
St.  Chry-io-tom,  but  a  review  of  the  state  of 
.'h  and  of  the  Ksr.pirc  at  the  period  when  St. 
\\\  live«l. 

'  ti  FunioNx  I'nir.     Tit/  Harriet  Parr,  Author  of 
ife  and  Times  of  .Jeanne  d'Aro,"  &c.     {il.  S. 
Co.) 

1  for  the  aniu««emcnt  of  \ur  god-daughter^,  the 
of  the  work  beAire  us  ha-*  i^Aidueed  a  skf:t<-h  of 
-y  of  the  cventfid  year  which  "opened  with 
a  wanton  and  improvid^-nt  <leelaration  of  war, 

1  with  the  oei-npation  of  France  by  the  (Icrmaus, 
ss  of  I.orraiu','  and  ANace — in  whi«;li  t!ie  chief  in- 
e  touched  otV  in  a  vigorous  and  attractive  form, 
.  to  make  the  hook  acceptable  to  a  wider  cla>s 

than  those  for  whom  it  was  originally  intended. 

ti'n  de  la  roi'.iie  Aiujhi'ise.     P<ir  Le  Chevalier 
in.     Vol.  V.     (^Kolandi.) 
can  dispute  the  claim'*  of  Le  Chevalier  Chate- 

2  pen  of  a  ready  translator.  Though  this  is  but 
volume  of  Le»  Beaut*  $y  it  is  about  the  thirtieth 
'  translations  from  the  English  Poets  sinc»  the 

coTumenced  his  labour  of  love  with  Les  Fables 
I  18.'>2.  In  the  volume  before  us  wo  have  some 
Ired  poems,  translated  from  some  seventy  or 
iglish  and  American  authors — of  all  ages  and  of 
— all  translated  apparently  with  equal  facility. 
;  not  to  pass  over  entirely  without  notice  some 
rt raits  of  the  poets  with  which  the  volume  is 
J. 

Illuntitited  House  of  Commons  mnl  the  Judicial 
[If^l'l).     Compiled  and  edited  b'/  IJobert  Henry 

Ptrsomillt/  revised  by  the  Members  of  Parlia- 
ui  tJie  Judtjes.     (Dean  vt  Son.) 

inl  volume  of  the  Debrett  Sori"s  is  not  the  least 
It  contains  much  Parliamentary  information 
in  other  books  of  a  similar  cliarac.ter,  while  the 
elating  to  the  Judicial  Jk'nch  is  an  exclusive 
in  which  we  find  hiographical  notices  not  only 
Iges  of  the  Superior  Courts  of  Great  Britain  and 
l)ut  of  the  Judges  of  the  County  Courts,  and 
i  of  England. 

nnltHjy  of  History y  Art,  Literature^  and  Progress^ 
e  Creation  of  the  JVorld  to  the  Conclusio7i  of  the 
•  German  War.  The  Continuation  by  W.  Douglas 
on,  F.S.A.    (Lockwood.) 

Jy  little  volume  ;  for  the  necessary  accuracy  on 
value  depends,  the  name  of  Mr.  Douglas  Ilamil- 
he  Public  Record  OfHce,  may  be  taken  as  a 
r.  Will  that  gentleman  forgive  our  hinting 
alue  would  be  doubled,  and  its  size  not  incon- 
increased,  bv  a  well  considered  Index  ? 

CTOK9  OF  THE  Press. — We  have  been  requested 
UMsrtion  to  the  following  remarks  on  the  useful 


labours  of  printers'  readers :— It  is  a  fact  that  ought  to 
be  familiar  to  the  reading  public  that  they  are  inuebte<l 
to  this  class  of  workers  for  much  valuable  work  apart 
from  their  own  subordinate  sphere.  It  was  as  a  reader 
that  Alexander  Cruden  acquired  that  exact  accaracv 
which  has  rendered  his  Concordance  the  standard  work 
of  its  kind.  Samuel  Johnson,  Oliver  ( loldsmith,  and  a 
host  of  others  wore  correctors  of  the  press  in  the  la.st 
century;  in  fact  the  reading-closet  was  the  usual  refuge 
of  the  impecunious  literary  men  of  that  day.  Some  of 
the  best  of  the  sub-editors  whom  modern  newspapers  have 
called  into  existence  received  their  training  as  readers ; 
and  more  than  one  editor-in-chief  has  vij-r-n  from  the  same 
degree.  Out  of  about  140  members  of  th<«  London  Asso- 
ciation of  Correctors  of  the  Pn-ss  we  understand  that  2 
are  editors,  0  sub-editors,  4  authors  (one  dramatic),  1  an 
accountant,  1  a  scientific  leclurer,  and  10  regular  con- 
tributors to  thejiross.  Beside^  these  21,  many  other?  are 
(jccasional  writers.  Here  is  a  ni']«!s  of  literary  activity 
from  a  source  not  comnitiuly  sn<pc.-tod,  and  it  is  to  us  a 
marvel  how  thes(f  men,  at'ter  fifty  or  sixty  hours'  ex- 
hausting headwork  in  a  week,  can  find  time  or  energy  for 
anything  extra.  Perhaps  their  appetite  for  work  grows 
by  what  it  feeds  on.  Perhaps  they  rejoice  in  putting 
other  readers  to  the  tortures  they  themselves  have  en- 
dured I  We  had  almost  forgotten  to  mention  that  a 
pain-staking  member  of  this  frat.'rnity  is  preparing  a 
new  blessing  for  the  British  public  (at  least  for  thost^ 
who  read  old  P^nglish)  in  the  shape  of  a  Concordance  to 
the  poems  of  Edmund  Spenser.  The  work  has  been  pro- 
gressing steadily  during  the  leisure  of  three  years,  and  in 
about  twelve  months  it  will  be  ready  for  publication. 

The  Guardian  announces  that  **  Lady  Walmsley,  of 
Hume  Towers,  Bournemouth,  carrying  out  the  wishes  of 
the  late  Sir  Joshua  Walmsley,  had  decided  upon  pre- 
senting to  the  nation  the  celebrated  portrait-gallery  of 
her  husband,  which  comprises  portraits  of  the  following 
eminent  statesmen,  t^kcn  from  life,  and  considered  to  be 
the  finest  extant : — Gladstone,  Cobden,  Bright,  DisraeU, 
and  Hume.  Also  the  celebrated  portrait  of  George 
Stephenson,  for  which  the  late  Sir  Joshua  was  offered 
several  thousand  pounds ;  and  portraits  of  Cromwell, 
Nelson,  and  Garibaldi.  An  excellent  portrait  of  the  late 
Sir  Joshua  will  also  be  included  in  the  gift." 


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ftr.     See  p.  127. 

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!it('i-I  penu.  r)rii'fl  rapidly  nn  the  paii:r.  1*  cleanly  to  une  and  not  linble 
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STRAW  PAPER— Improved  qnaiity,  tn.iad.  per  ream. 

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BLACK-BORDERED  NOTE,  O.  and  6«.  6c/.  per  icam. 

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Monofrramt,  two  letters,  ftom  b*.\  three  letten,  ftom  T§, 
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and  Gilt,  Albunii*.  Piipier-mMvh4  Tea  Trays,  ChMts,  and  GiddlM 
Portable  Writ  in;;  Ca-ieo,  and  I>c*patch  Boxes  t  also  an  Infinite  Tsrie 
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CARPETS,  ALTAR-CLOrriB, 
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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


CONTESTS.— N°  217. 
)  1— BiithpluM  or  PliiiluH  uid  TL-npIc  of  Jupiter 


■llsne.  157  —  Sbjldck  —  Old  Clianim  of  Ueuiiu  —  X 
Rullind  Wnth<'ri<a]riiii;  — Tirn  reniirliibla  liiKnptl"n( 
—  AttnmtT  nf  Hie  nldn.  tliii"  —  Bunn  mhI  K Ale  —  "  Tbe 
Tlimv1i«orilu!  Hood'-— DjroiiUHlUonea  — Puodia, 


laiaunbn.aF 


—  Jlu7-le-lioiie  — Mr.  NUtliPWi  — Oialorio  — l^luter  of 
Tarru  —  Count  tt<Ttnnd  KtmhBiilt  — 8di»ora  — Bcorrs 
""""""   -  Slnallio  luteriptiiina  —  "Sumr!"  — G<Kir)ta 


1,  1«£— Rellu of  Oliver 

t.-UaTn'  

,- ., „      tvUirrl 

... -PxirCldUrm  al  fiMTtli.  IdS  — Tha ^ 

Tbivp  Chillis  — Ronwn  Vill&  «  K'irthleiith  —  Th«  Um  of 
..    .._.       „-     .._, j„.._,...     ••-.iiKimut  — 


Ibp-nalHiiinU"' 


-  ..- „       Jcrin  and  Wdpthti- 

Svidal  WVMl--lr  1  had  ft  DonSej."^-      -■■-   

Kultin:c  Ttaf  — "GnUa  rant  liuidi>iii.''Ac.  —  Lwlr  GtIi:<:I1 
Balltv  —  " Mt TlimiKliri  air  nrlii'd"— U'tloli  iW-n- 
H..ulb-T  -  '1  iUir..  Faiiiily  -  "  Wiih  HcIiih.!  .hi  hi<  Bruw  " 

—  M.mUlt  llin>nii-"11>pi>.r  tb<-  Uaii."  Ac.  ~  Tlio  Lurd 
Bpqai-lii  —  I'uitoek  —  ChuiuF  or  Bijilivnuil  Nnnrn  ~ 
Kunti-hm  or  Old  Tuura  —  Uihi  Ward  —  lluriik'i  *■  'i^iitice 

HoMH  OD  Bonk^  Ac. 


flatti. 
BIKTHPLACE  OF  PLAUTL'S  ASl>  TEMPLK  OF 
JOPITEK  APEXXISL'S. 
llaTia^  Intely  {ohQ,  p.  5^  given  a  sh'irt  account 
of  thebirthpliiceof  thepoet  Limiusfboni  B.C. 230), 
1  -liATe  be«n  lemiuded  uF  miutber  Houian  writer, 
I'hutiu,  his  contumporary  (bom  n.c,  2.)4),  whose 
binliplsct.',  Sarsino,  m  a  far  ditferent  pnrt  of  Italy, 
I  ouce  Titfitml ;  and  as  it  ix  nirely  Ili:it  such  a 
Mxluded  noiik  'a  reached  by  tbe  Eii^lieli  traveller, 
it  may  be  not  without  interest  to  jotir  cla&^ic«l 
readen  to  hnye  a  desciiption  of  itj  prebent  appear- 
ance. I  have  before,  in  speaking  of  file  "  louib 
of  IlMdrubal "  (■l"  S.  i.  Oil),  remarked  tliat  this 
part  of  the  Apennines  Vf  dintin^iahcd  for  little 
•equeatercd  valleys,  apparently  cut  off  from  Ibo 
whole  world.  1  approached  these  Tallns  from  the 
direction  of  Gubbio,  crosaioR  a  lii{.'h  ridfre  by  a 
mouDtfun  path,  which  hniujiht  niu  to  thu  ueijrb- 
bourbood  of  tbe  villa)[e  Scliie^r^;  »o  interesting 
for  tbe  ruins  of  what  ia  believed  to  have  been  the 


the  Latins  did  to  the  Albaa  Mount  At  Valle  di 
Holla  ed  AJale,  al»ut  half  a  mile  from  Scliieggia, 
on  the  bill  caUed  La  Serra,  you  find  die  ground 
corered  with  ruina :  ani  if  the  earth  were  cleared 
uroy,  I  do  not  doubt  that  the  foundations  of  the 
tmjpila  wouM  be  dearly  traced.  Some  pieces  of 
mosuc  I  law  at  Ketra  Grossa,  and  on  the  hill  La 


Serra  was  found  the  following  monumental  in* 
Kiiption  of  Bomau  time) :  — 


C  .  XAK8IT8 
PLOTIDIiirTB 

pn.  .  FussiKo. 
It  in  a  high  mountainouB  region,  inhabited  prin- 
cipally by  Hhepherdii  and  their  flocks,  b»  it  was  in 
the  time  of  Ctuudian  (about  a.v.  400),  who  epealu 
of  it :  ^ 


I  threaded  my  way  by  Urbino,  San  Marino, 
San  Leo  by  cross  path^  to  the  sources  of  the  river 
Saapis,  now  Savio;  on  the  boi^  of  w)iich  I  found 
tbe  village  Sarains,  of  about  three  tliouwnd  in- 
haliitants,  retaining  the  name  which  it  had  two 
thousand  .vvars  ngo,  and  situated  in  a  secluded 
valley  aurtouuded  on  all  aides  by  lofty  ridges  of 
the  Apenuiae^.  .The  ancient  city  extended  up 
the  lull  at  somo  distance  from  its  modern  rtpre< 
sentative,  and  here  many  remains  hare  been  foundt 
though  I  do  not  believe  that  it  could  at  any  tims 
have  been  of  creat  extent.  The  following,''  imper- 
fect sepulchral  inscription  was  the  only  uiemoriol 
of  Roman  times  whicu  I  saw  near  the' site  of  the 
ancient  city:  — 

ANIELLAE 

I.  .  F  .  PKISCAB 

ET  .  L  .  r  .  ASVRCTO 

vino. 
I  could  Bee  that  its  territory  contsined  e:(;tensive 
mountain  pastures,  and  is  still  as  rich  in  milk — 
divrt  laeHn,  as  Silius  Ilalicus  (viii  411:.')  .^ys  j  nor 
arc  its  forests  on  tbe  decIivitieH  nf  the  mountains 
extinct,  though  1  cannot  say  that  I  heitrd  of  the 
dormice  beiug  atill  there,  as  they  were  in  ancient 
limes  when  priied  by  the  Komans  (Martial.  iiL 
68,  36).  1  found,  bowerer,  the  baths  of  which 
Martial  (ix.  J3S)  speaks :  — 

"  Sie  moDlana  tuos  temper  colat  Umbria  runte*. 
Sec  tun  llijauu  Sanina  m.ilit  sqaas." 
They  are  now  known  as  the  JUfod  di  S.  AgneM, 
and  at  some  distance  I  beard  that  there  wars 
baths  called  Bagni  di  Itegina,  Hiill  used  by  inva- 
lids: while  tbe  baths  of  Bai:e  have  long  ceased 
to  exist  At  the  cathedral  there  ate  numeroua 
mutilated  columns  of  all  kind':  also  marble  alab* 
with  anuent  sepulchral  insciiptions.  Manr  in* 
Bcriptions  are  al«o  found  at  the  I'olaizo  del  Com- 
mune. I  was  much  interested  by  my  visit  to  tba 
birthplace  of  Pbiutus,  and  could  not'duubt  tbat  I 
MW  everything  much  as  it  was  when  tbe  i 
i  lived.  Ctnere  were  the  everhiHting  iiills  clou 
i  with  woods,  the  springt  still  supplied  baths  E 
[  the  recovery  of  invalida,  and  tha  &!nmR«^ ' 


he  am 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[*•>■  8.  IX.  Teb.  34, 71. 


longer  caught  for  tlie  luiurioua  Roman.     I  m^y 

state  that  the  Bceaer;^*  ^  'J'''^  croKS  this  lofty 

ridge  of  the  Apennines  towaroa  Florence,  ia  highly 

picturesque,  though  the  ascent  can  only  he  mads.' 

on  mule-back.     You  come  down  on  the  Ttilley  o1' 

the  Amo,  not  fnr  from  the  celehrated  Camaldoli ; 

and  if  you  be  energetic,  you  may  climh  the  highest 

point  of  the  ridge,  /  Scali,  mentioned  by  Arioati  i 

on  account  of  the  extenriTe  view  it  atlbrda :  — 

"  ScuDpro  il  mar  Schiavo  c  il  Tosco 

Dal  giogo  onde  n  Camaldoli  si  viciie." 

I  had  Been  both  aeaa  from  a  hill  of  the  Sila  in 

Calabria  (4»  S.  vii.  539) ;    but  the  breadth  of 

Italy  is  there  only  some  thirty  miles,  while  heru 

it  cannot  be  much  less  than  one  hundred  and  lifty. 

CitiUPCRD  Tait  Rauaor. 


I  have  called  ialo 


JOHN  U0WAR1>  PAYNE  ASD  "  HOMK,  SWEET 
HOME.- 
I  send  you  enclosed  an  article  which  1  furnished 
to  ft  local  paper  (tlje  JTjwy  Tiimm,  N.  Y.)  con- 
tainiuf;  a  letter  from  Mr.  I'enr  to  my  uncle,  the 
Hon.  W.  B.  Maclay.  As  this  letter  is  conclusive 
proof  of  the  true  origin  of  "  Home,  sweet  Home," 
concerning  which  some  of  the  Loudou  papers  aeeui 
at  fault  (7¥nir«  and  AihcaO'iitH,  kc),  it  may  be 
useful  for  insertion  in  "  N.  &  Q." 

J.  W.  Maclav. 

Ordnance  Offic*.  Waten-liet  Arsenal. 
\Vest,Troy,X.  Y. 
"Some  Inlrmtltia  llltl-'rical  Fach  rr/ptcling  Ihr.  Avihor 

[Special  Cflrrcsponilenee  of  the  7>r.y  7J«%  Timm.'} 

wnllj- 
.,.'!».  in 
which  a  doubt  U  cxprrviil  whether  Jaliii  Ilnwonl  I'ajni.' 
was  the  author  of  the  |>upular  sun^  cominnnly  nttribulol 

to  him.    VVe  therefore  take  tlic  greater  iili'a!iurv  i " 

ing  the  ullention  of  the  re.uler  lo  n  leltwr  upon  th 
Ject,  which  we  hare  brcn  kindly  ;illciwed  to  pulilinh.  and 
which  would  witn  to  place  tlie  anlhonJiip  ciF  '  llntiie. 
BVf eet  Home '  leyouil  the  jrossihilily  ul'  uiiy  cavil.  H'c  may 
menlion  that  tlio  wriler  uf  tJie  letter,  Mr.  I'eny,  was  on 
a  temporarv  vi-it  to  Luiiilon  from  Taiiicitrs.  of  wliicli  port 
he  WKH  United  States  consul,  a  poailimi  whkbUr.Pnvnc 
himself  onrc  Illicit.  The  John  Miller  rvfiTrerl  to  in  'the 
letter  wa»  in  corlv  life  a  publisher  ill  l.imili>n,  and  wan 
the  predecessor  of  Murray  in  tin'  |iiiUiuatinn  uT  tlie  Sicteh 
Bouk,  the  author,  hove^■er,  tukiof;  ujmh]  himaelf  the  cx- 
iwnsc  of  paper,  printing,  advcltiIl(■lnl-Dt^  and  tlie  riak  uf 
sale.  '1  wish,' fays  Irvia{;,'yuu  wimlil  make  interest, 
throuch  James  Uenwh^,  lo  net  the  eoUi^'  to  emploj' 
John  Miller,  bookwlkr,  FUet  Slrvi-t.  ai  a  lilerar^■  a^nt 
in  Lunilun.  lleia  a  most  ileiurnu;;  nml  iiieritoriuuKlilIlc 
man,  indet^ticable  in  the  dlachai«,'e  i>f  iiiiy  comniis^on 
entrusted  to  him,  and  moderate  anil  n>n<vi('ntiims  in  his 
eharj.'es.'  Without  fUrtlivr  prefaee  wi;  kIvu  the  letter  of 
Hr.  I'ern",  which,  as  wilt  be  seen,  hi  a'Idn'ssvd  to  Hon. 
W.  It,  Maclay,  ruruierlv  a  rcprcscnlafivc  in  Congre^ 
ftom  the  city  of  Now  York  :— 

" '  LoMDuir,  U.MTEii  Rtatkh  Uisi-ati'ii  Agkx<jt,  Sept. 
19,  1865.— UoD.  Vi.  I).  Maclav,  So.  t,  Nassau  Street, 


New  York.— My  Dear  Mr.  Macliy 


post,  eow  seme  fort3'-hve  years,  to  the  satis&ctiaii  of  th* 
government,  and  awakening  the  gratitude  of  then  ofleen 
of  our  Bcn-ice  who  are  made  dependent  upon  hii  Uddny 
and  promptitude  in  forwarding  their  communicatioiie. 

>"Mr.  Millei  haa  had  the  kindness  to  iibaw  me  the 
&nt  printed  copy  of  "  Sweet  Home."  It  ii  interwoTen 
with  a  play  entitled  CInri.  An  opera.  In  three  acta,  ■■ 
first  performed  at  the  Theatre  Royal,  Covent  tiarden,  on 
Thursday,  May  8th,  1S2.1,  by  John  Howard  Payne,  Esq. 
The  overture  and  music  (n'ith  the  ejcccptioD  of  the  na- 
tional air),  by  Henrv  It.  Kishop,  Esq.  London ;  John 
Miller,  SO,  Fleet  Stn'et,  I8J3.  (Price  two  sfailliuge  and 
sixpence.) 

" '  I  wrote  with  the  copy  before  me,  and  Mr.  Miller 
sitting  at  his  desk  near  by.  In  replv  to  my  remark  that 
the  authorship  of  "Sweet  Home"  had  been  called  in  ques- 
tion, Mr.  Miller  slated  that  tbere  was  net  tbe  leait  room 
for  doubt  upon  the  point. 

" '  £lr.  Miller  said  that  he  gave  3lr.  Pajna  501.  tm  the 
copyright  of  Clari,  and  that  lie  (Mr.  Pavne)  revised  the 
proof.  This  play  was  exceedingly  popular  at  the  time, 
and  drew  very  crowded  bouses  to  witnen  ita  icpreaen- 


ittage."  Mr.  HiBs 
informed  mo  that  tliia  was  an  oversight  of  Mr.  Payne  in 
correcting  the  proof,  Mr.  Payne  was  introduced  to  Mr. 
Miller  by  Washington  Irving,'who  was  a  mutual  IHend 
of  these  gentlemen,  serving  them  both  in  many  wayi  and 
on  many  occasions.     Very  tmly  yours. 

"'Amos  Pebbt.' 

■•  The  purchase  of  the  opera  of  Clari  proved  a  *ery 

jjood  Bjieculation.     'The  profits  arising  from  it,' says  the 

author  of  the  life  and  letters  of  Washington    Irriog, 

■  rc-iliied  by  the  manager  and  not  by  Payne,  are  atatnl 

None  of  the  [nrties  seem  to  have  paid  much  attention  lo 
the  son)-  of  '  Home,  sneet  Home,  which  was  aftenmdi 
one  uf  the  ehief  attractiiiiis  of  the  0)>era,  and  was  flisC 
HI1IK  by  Miss  M.  Tree,  the  eldut  sister  of  Ellm  Tnt, 
who  married  Charles  Kean.  All  eotcraporary  accomili 
unite  ill  representing  her  to  have  been  as  diatingniobed  as 
a  vocalist  as  her  sister  w.is  as  an  actress.  An  epigraiq 
hy  Tiitbill  has  l>ecn  preserved  in  the  'Table-tali'  ef 

*  On  this  Tree  when  a  nighting.ile  settles  and  sings. 

The  Tree  will  return  her  as  good  as  she  brioga.* 

"At  the  time  Miss  M.  Tree  wan  warhlinK  at  CoTMt 

(iardcn,  another  sister  was  a  dammt  at  Drury  Laoo. 

lloth  seem  to  have  awakerfed  iha  admiration  of  a  poetical 

spectator.  w]pi  thus  anonymously,  but  it " "        '  --• 

impartially,  celebrates  the  merits    " '' 
•Of  all  the  Trees  thi 
Pippin,  nonpare) 
.... ...  'frgf^  sweetly  hlown. 


Is  of  the  t 


le  the  iVe 


'liiitw 


■rform 


nnces  with  the  elfin  train, 
I'd  shelter  from  lifers  an^^fy  storm, 

And  seek  the  Tree  of  Urnry  Lane.' 
may  be  glad  that '  the  vocal  Tree  of  CovMit  Gi^ 


*»S.IXFm.ai,T2.] 


•NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


165 


and  wbere  the  UDtinieata  thfuiaelvei,  atriiung  a  kindred 
cord  in  our  coinmaD  lutarc.  findt  an  echo  in  srerr  boiwai. 
Pajne  hid  left  hu  native  country  for  one  year,  and  wta 
abaaot  from  it  twenty.  With  poverty  aa  a  companion, 
be  had  often  wandeiM  'mid  pleainres  and  palaces'  in 
ftireign  lands,  an  exile  uid  a  itrsnger.  In  ft  propitloag 
booT  the  vision  of  home  fell  upon  himi  steeped  in'coloun 
isUt  from  Ueaven,  and  nuliant  with  u  dawn  of  light, 


ich  has   filled   the 


It  may  be  twenty-tive  or  thirty  years  ago  that  a 

child  of  A  ffLTmer  in  the  piirisli  of  L h  was  bit 

or  atuDg  by  rd  adder  on  the  back  of  the  foot, 
which,  as  well  na  the  leg  and  thigh,  in  conse- 
qneiic«  became  very  much  inflamed  and  swoUen. 
The  child's  life  wh^  cimsidered  in  danger;  and 
Tuious  meaiis  of  euro  were  rcBorted  to  by  the 

Cntd  OD  the  advice  uf  their  fricDds  and  oeigh- 
■».  Among  others,  a  pigeon  was  procuied, 
killed,  cut  open,  and  immediately,  while  wonn, 
applied  to  the  wounded  foot.  The  fleah  of  the 
pigeon,  it  is  said,  became  very  dark  br  black;  but 
Tot  baling,  as  it  wa8  believed,  do  good,  or  at 
uast  very  immediate  elVect,  this  other  cure  was 
bod  recourse  to.     In  the  same  parish  a  family  of 

the  name  of  C g  re^dded.     They  bad  been 

proprietors  of ,  the  land  tbey  occupied  for  several 
geneTatioTiB,  and  in  possession  of  a  ao-called  adder- 
atooe  and  four  Druidical  beadx,  some  of  which, 
or  all  conjunctively,  hitdbeen  efficacious  in  curing 
variotiB  complaints,  but  more  particularly  those  in 
cftttle.  At  the  soucitatiou  of^  an  intimate  friend, 
them  were  abided  (although  never  before  al- 
lowed to  go  out  of  the  custody  of  some  of  the 
family),  and  n«ed  according  to  in.-<tructioQS  re- 
ceived, of  this  import — that  a  smalt  quaotity  of 
milk,  some  two  or  three  gills,  should  be  taken 
from  a  cow,  and  that  while  warm,  the  stone  and 
beads,  which  were  arranged  on  a  string,  should  be 
put  into  it,  and  then  thoroughly  washed  with  the 
milk.  A  slough,  or  some  slimv  matter,  it  was 
•ud,  would  be  developed  on  the  atone,  which 
behoved  to  be  cleaned  off  by  and  mixed  vrith  the 


milk,  and  that  the  latter  then  should  be  applied 
in  bathing  the  wounded  part  and  all  the  fimb, 
which  was  afterwards  to  be  swathed.     This 


child  arrived  at  manhood,  got   married,  and  i> 
yet  alive. 

This  adder-stone  ia  of  a  light  dun  or  yellowish 
colour,  and  cireular,  about  an  inch  and  a  quarter  in 
diameter,  a  little  less  than  half  an  inch  in  ihicknees 
at  the  centre  where  it  ia  moat  thick,  and  has  a  hole 
there,  circular,  amooth,  and  about  half  an  inch  in 
diameter.  It  is  not  unlike,  in  form  and  site,  to 
the  'wborla  which,  in  conjunction  with  the  distaff, 
were,  only  a  centuir  or  two  ago,  in  general  uaa  in 
spinning  yams.  The  beads  are  all  of  different 
forma,  sizes,  and  colours,  yet  all  are  perforated  in 
the  centre,  soas  to  allow  them  to  be  strung.  Tha 
stone  and  beads  are  atill  extant  and  in  good  pia- 
serration. 

As  the  parents  of  the  child  were  afterwatds 
advised,  the  same  good  result  would  have  enstied. 
if  ouly  the  head  of  the  adder  (which  was  found 
and  killed)  had  been  cut  off,  and  the  wound  well 
rubbed  with  it. 

This  being  a  well  authenticated  caae  of  a  cure 
being  effected  (as  the  belief  is)  by  charmed  stones, 
the  particulars,  it  is  hoped,  may  be  worthy  of 
preservation  in  "  N.  &  Q.  EspEniBB. 


CHAUCEK  RE3T0BED.— No.  IV. 

1.  "The  Parliaroentof  fiirds,"an  acknowledsed 

production  ofChaucer'g,  authenticates  the  "^Cuckoo 

and  the  Nightingale  " ;  thus  line  275  of  the  latter 

piece  runs  —  ^  ^ 

"And  therefore  we  will  have  a  paiitsmeDt."    ' 
It  follows  that  the  Parliament  accepted  by  Mr, 
Fdrnivall  has  most  probably  been  written  in 
furtherance  of  this  implied  promise. 
The  sequence  runs  thus :  , 

(i.)  "  The  Court  of  Love  "  is  found  to  close  thiM 
(IL  1  to  1361)  — 


My  Soveieign  [i 


1,.] 


done  accordingly,  yet  after  an  interval  of  two  or 
three  days  &om  the  time  the  sting  was  received; 
and  it  ia  reported  by  those  alive  and  witnessing 
the  amplication,  that,  even  by  the  following  morn- 
ing, there  was  a  visibly  favourable  change,  and 
OM  which  resolted  in  a  complete  cure.     The 


....    abide,  ve  shall  dwell  atill  with  me. 

Till  season  come  ofMay,  for  then  traly. 

The  King  o(  Love  and  all  his  company 

Shall  hold  his  feast." 
(ii.)'  Then  follows  "  The  Cuckoo  and  the  Night- 
ingale," called  also  "The  Book  of  Cupid,  Qod  of 
Love,"  the  scene  of  which  is  lud  in  May  ;  and  it 
ends  with  the  promise  of  "  a  parliament,"  on  "  tha 
morrow  after  St.  Valentine's  day."    Accordingly 

(iii)  The  "  Parliament "  itself,  stania  46,  sod 
read— 

"  Far  this  wis  an  St.  Valentine's  day." 
Then  follows  the   "  Bird's  Mating  "  appended  ta 
the  "Court  of  Love";  to  this,  as  I  fancy,  th« 
misplaced  envDi  properly  belongs,  the  lewd  toag  'M 
being  obviouely  the   "  Bird's  Matins,"   with.  V*" 
"Uomine    labia,"    "Vemte"   "C(B^i  «oKnKoX» 


156 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


"  r*"  SIX.  Fkb.  24,  72. 


verse."-  This  ctwoi  is  a  sort  of  apolo^  for  it,  and 
quite  in  keepin-j. 

This  pre-nrranfred  order  cannot  be  accidental ; 
it  shows  desijrn,  and  argues  unity  of  authorship. 
Thus  these  three  pieces,  inextricably  linked  to- 
gether, must  be  accepted  or  rejected  in  company. 

2.  It  is  still  ft  moot  point  when  Chaucer  was 
bom ;  it  could  not  have  been  earlier  than  IJ^28,  nor 
later  than  1840.  Suppose  we  accept  Mr.  Ftjrni- 
V all's  compromise  oi  1340;  this  would  make 
Chaucer  nineteen  when,  in  modem  parlance,  he 
first  entered  the  army  in  1.S''59.     He  was  then  a 

Prisoner  in  France  for  about  twelve  months. 
)urinjr  this  period,  I  assume,  he  may  have  solaced 
his  enforced  It>i«iire  by  translating  in  part  "  The 
Romance  of  llv»  Hose."  lie  would  return  to 
England,  and  w*^  have  his  "  Hlack  Knight."  which 
I  assume  to  r»  I'.-r  to  the  Black  Prince,  who  mar- 
ried Joane  Plniitnjrpnet  in  18(»1,  the  latter  havinjr 
been  left  widow  in  1300,  on  the  death  of  Thomas 
Holland,  Earl  (^f  Kent. 

0.  Among  tliose  restored -poeiwii  are  some  touches 
from  a  master-liand,  e.r.  gr,  the  opening  of  the 
"  Court  of  Love ''  — 
"With  timorous  h(»art,  and  trRmblincj  haml  of  droad, 

Of  cunniii;:  nJikcl,  bare  of  eloquence, 

Unto  the  jlowi.r  wf  port  in  -woinanh-io-.l 

J  write,  as  ho  th.it  none  intelligence 

Of  metres  hath.' 

In  the  '^iJlftck  Knight,"  stanzas  i\'2  to  34  are 
verv  lino  — 

"Tlie  thought  oppressed  with  inwanl  si^liiis  sore, 
Tlie  painful  lii-.  the  body  lani^ui.shin.:;.' 

"Now  hot  as  ltr'\  now  cold  as  ashes  dea-l, 
Xow  hot  tor  ('  'Id,  now  cold  for  he.'it  ajcain, 
Xow  c(il<l  as  i  i",  now  as  coalcs  red.** 

Compare  tliid  with  Troilusi  and  Crvuxida  — 

"  For  heat  of  cold,  for  cold  of  heat  I  die." 

IJk.  i.  1.  l-Jd, 

obviouslv  from  I'etrarca's 

"  K  trcmo  a  mezza  state,  ardcndo  il  vorno." 

4.  Another  p'^culiarity,  not  to  bo  overlooked,  is 
found  in  certain  pcn^ontd  allusions.  AVe  have  **  the 
Loril'.'S  son  of  Windsor''  (liommice  of  the  AVsr), 
which,  I  tiiko  it.  refers  to  l*]dward  the  Black  iVinco. 

The  term  *'  lUir  white,"  us-ed  {or  Bhnrhf  DncYiQ^s^ 
of  Lancast»'r,  in  the  Death ;  also,  in  the  same  hook, 
tlie  rofennco  to  King  Edwordlll.  a*?  the  Emperor 
Octavian. 

The  to.nu  Plillo^^fMiot,  cf.  Plantagonet,  used  in 
the  ''  Ciuirt  of  Love.' 

The  Parliamont  at  Wooddock,  where  the  court 
had  re<^ided,  used  in  the  "  Cuckoo  and  the  Night- 
ingale.'* 

There  is  a  cortain  amount  of  as?urod  familiarity 
in  this  mode  of  procedure;  is  it  po«i.sible  there 
could  have  boon  two  in  the  same  poaition,  at  the 
same  time:  Chaucer  so  well  identified,  the  other 


anonj'mous 


A.  Hall. 


Mr.  Hall  continues  his  amusing  pleasantxiea, 
and  now  wants  us  to  believe  that  ''The  Blade 
Knight »'  is  Chancers.  What  would  "  N.  &.  Q" 
say  to  a  suggestion  that  Kyd's  Cornelia  oi 
Spanish  Trnf/edy  was  Shakspere*s,  becaune  it| 
Lenr,  Hamlet^  or  any  or  all  of  Shakspere's  pAm 
had  a  dozen  or  a  hundred  words  in  common  P 
"  Cornelia,"  *'  Cordelia  " :  "  this  remarkable  fa- 
mily likeness  is  a  strong  point  of  resemblance 
that  could  not  be  imitated  without  gross  pla- 
giarism, so  I  claim  the  Q  Cornelia ')  for  (Shak- 
spere) ! " 

That  would  be  reaioring  iShakspere  with  a  ven- 
geance, would  it  not  ?  And  yet  this  is  just  the 
process  that  Mr.  Hall  is  putting  Chaucer 
through.  MS.  evidence  is  nothmg  to  him;  facts 
are  of  no  consequence ;  a  critical  ear  and  per- 
ception are  mere  delusions.  Any  one  can  sit  down 
and  settle  what  is  genuine  Chaucer  and  wliat 
is  not.  The  same  alphabet  is  used  in  two  dif- 
ferent poems,  therefore  the  same  author  wrote 
them  both ! 

This  "  Black  Knight "  is  known  to  be  one  of 
f  jydgate's  poems ;  it  is  assigned  to  him  by  a  M3.  in 
the  hand  of  his  contemporary  Shirley,  wjio  copied 
scores  of  Tjyd«rate*s  poems,  as  well  as  many  of 
Clmucor's  :  and  the  very  verse  itself  proclaims  to 
any  man  with  an  oar  that  it  is  not  Chaucer's. 
,]\\?i  take  a  couple  of  .><tanzas  picked  out  atrandomy 
and  ask  yourself  if  it  is  possible  that  Chaucer,  on^ 
of  the  most  melodious  poets  that  ever  lived,  could 
have  written  them  : — 

I-XXXVIIT. 

"  And,  83  I  wrote,  nic  thoght  I  saw  aferre, 
Fer  in  the  wcst(e)  lustely  appere  ' 
I^sperus,  the  poodiy  hr)*pht(e)  i^tcrre. 

So  prlad,  so  feirc,  so  persaunt  eke  of  chere, 
1  menc  Vimuh  with  her  hemvs  clore. 
That  hevv  hertis  only  to  relcve 
Is  wont  of  custom  for  to  shcwe  at  eve. 

xriii. 

"  And  vrh'.Mi  that  she  was  goon  unto  her  rest, 
I  riix'  anou,  and  home  to  bed(de)  went, 
Yor  very  wery,  me  thoi^Iit  hit  for  the  best, 

Preyni^  thus  in  al  my  best  entent. 
That  al(l<')  trew  that  lie  with  Dannger  sbcnt, 
With  men.'ic  may,  in  reles  of  her  pe^Ti, 
Remircd  be,  er  May  come  eft  ageyu." 


is  it  possible  to  mistake  this  poor  stuff  for 
r's  wntintr  ?     Surely  a  moderate  amount  of 


TIow 
Chaucer's  writing  ?  Surely 
training  in  his  lines  must  convince  a  num  that 
these  stanzas  ore  none  of  his.  How,  then,  did 
they  ever  come  to  be  attributed  to  him?  "The 
Jilack  Knight "  is  mainly  imitated  from  Chancef'fl 
"  Dethe  of  IJlaunche  the'Duchesse,"  with  reooUeo- 
tions  of  the  *'  Legende,"  "  Pity,"  «  Mars,"  "Knight's 
Tale,"  &c. :  and  is  balled  in  a  late  Scotch  MS.  tt 
the  end  ''  The  Maying  and  Disport  of  Chaucer,'' 
as  if  Lydgate  had  perhaps  meant  the  BJliA  s 
Knight  for  Chaucer.    But  tais  colophon  is  not  ii 


4«'  S.  IX.  Feb.  24, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


167 


Shirley's  authentic  copy.  Walter  Chapman  may 
have  seen  this  or  another  Scotch  copy  of  the 
poem,  and  he  accordingly  printed  it  in  1508,  as- 
suming that  it  was  Chaucer's  own  work.  Thynne 
included  it  in  his  edition  of  Chaucer's  works  in 
1632,  and  other  editors  have  followed  suit.  That 
the  poem  is  Lydgate's  there  coii  be  no  reasonable 
doubt ;  and  among  his  poems,  and  not  Chaucer's, 
will  it,  I  trust,  hereafter  be  found. 

Mr.  IIall*s  remarks  on  the  etivoi  are  so  childish 
that  my  only  wonder  is  they  have  found  admit- 
tance to  "  N.  &  Q.''    To  claim  a  poem  for  Chau- 
cer because  it  has  an  envoy  addressed  to  a  princess, 
13  like  claiming  a  play  for  any  special  dramatist 
becatise  it  has  an  epilogue  addressed  to  its  heai'ers. 
Were  not  Mb.  Hall's  ignorance  so  genuine,  the 
at^'tempt  to  impose  it  on  "  N.  &  Q."  readers  for 
l£:ziowledge  would  be  i»i'<!iilting. 

The  '*iFlower  and  the  Leaf"  tells  us  itself  that 
it  "was  written  by  a  lady — in  line  4G2,  where  the 
\^'  -K-jter  makes  a  lady  call  her,  the  writer,  *'  My 
d  <:>  xightor.* '  Its  language  shows  it  to  be  from  fifty 
to  eighty  years  after  Chaucer's  time,  though  it 
"w-^fcjs  manifestly  suggested  by  his  "Legende/'  and 
c^  jp>ie8  some  expressions  in  his  "  Knight's  Tale,"  as 
^  *^  ^  34,  '*  That  sprongen  out  at/en  the  somie  shene  "  j 
ft"<:>xn  "K.  T.,"  line  1500,  "And  loude  he  song 
^t^^^jfn  the  Sonne  shene^'  &c.  It  does  not  observe 
^^^  laws  of  Chaucer's  ryme,  and,  though  gene- 
^  *-X  J  beautiful,  it  has  lines  too  weak  for  Chaucer. 
■■^  ^^^  instance,  lines  313-15 — 


"  The  savour  eke  rejoice  would  anj'  wight, 
That  had  be  sicke  or  uielancoliu."*, 
It  was  so  very  good  and  vcrtuous.'' 

'o  MS.  of  it  is  known,  though  one  was  once 

?^     Xord  Bath's  late  volume,  Mr.  Bradshaw  j?ays : 

^\^  ^^As  not  put  into  any  edition  of  Chaucer's  works 

Ht*    Jjpeght  added  it  and  "  Chaucer's  Dream,''  &c. 

■^  *^e^8e  old    editors,  when  they   found   a   pretty 

P^Om — and  sometimes  an  awfully  bad  ono— evi- 

.  *^^tly  said  **  This  ought  to  be  printed.     Let's  cafl 

^^    Cfiaucer's,  and  then  we   can  put   it  into   his 

^'^rks  and  so  g(rt  it  in  type  ;  nobody  '11  know  the 

"^Qtrence  till  we're  dead  and  gone."     Not  a  bad 

coui-.e  of  proceeding  to  preserve  poems,  only  we 

"^^fst  use  (»ur  senses  now,  and  not  be  bound  by  the 

^^^  editors'  attributions  of  authorship. 

As  ti»  "Chaucer's  Dream,"  I  can  only  repeat 
'^Qat  1  have  said  before,  that  a  man  who  pretends 
^^  biive  studied  CnArcER  and  vet  holds  this  late 
PJ^m  to  be  his,  should  go  thiough  a  course  of 
■^tIy  English.  The  first  four  lines  are  enough 
to  settle  tlie  question  — 

"  When  Flora  the  Qaeene  of  Plcsaunce 
Had  whole  achieved  thobcysaance 
Of  the  fre:)h  and  oew  season 
Thorow  out  every  region." 

u^?^  Tiught  as  well  say  that  Chaucer  wrote 
John  Gilpin,"  as  these  dot-and-go-one  lines. 

F.  J.  FrBNIVALL. 


SIR  WILLIAM  MURE  OF  ROWALLANE. 

On  looking  over  The  Historie  and  Descent  of  the 
House  of  BowaUane  (Glas.  1825)  I  notice  that  the 
editor,  the  Rev.  W.  Muir,  announces  his  intention 
(not  carried  out)  of  publishing  "  The  Poetical  Re- 
mains" of  the  knight,  with  the  following  con- 
temporary testimony  to  his  "  excellent  vaine  in 
poesie  ": — 

"  Thou  kno's,  brave  gallant,  that  our  Scottish  braines 
Have  ay  bein  £ngland*8  equal  ewcry  way ; 

Quhair  ab  rair  muse  and  martiall  mjndis  remained, 
With  als  renoun'd  records  to  this  day, 
Tho*  we  be  not  enrol'd  so  rich  as  they, 

Zit  have  we  wits  of  worth  enriched  more  rair  ; 

Cum,  I  have  found  our  Wcdterne  feeldes  als  fair. 
Go  thou  to  work,  and  I  schall  be  thy  guyde, 

And  schew  thee  of  a  sucitar  subject  thair 

Borne  Benties  wonder,  on  the  banks  of  Clyd. 

"■  Sprang  thou  from  Maxwell  and  Montgomerie*3  muae, 
,  To  let  our  poets  perisch  in  the  West ! 

No,  no,  brave  youth,  continow  in  thy  kynd. 
No  sueitar  subject  sail  thy  muses  fynd." 

The  editor  seems  to  have  found  these  '*  Lines  to 
Sir  W.  Mure,  by  A.  G.  1G14,''  when  looking  up 
the  poet's  M3S.  at  Rowallan ;  and,  in  casting  about 
for  a  name  to  fit  his  eulogist's  initials,  it  has  oc- 
curred to  me  that  he  can  be  no  other  than  the 
author  of — 

"  A  Garden  of  Grave  and  Godlie  Flowers,  Sonetf , 
Elctries,  and  Plpitaphe.s,  Planted,  Polished,  and  Perfected 
by  Mr.  Alexander  Gardyne.   Edin.  IfiOO.'* 

As  I  know  of  no  work  of  Mure's  so  early  as 

1G14,  which  might  have  prompted  this  clap  on 

the  back  from  the  Aberdeen  to  the  Ayrshire  bard, 

we  must  have  lost  the  earlier  productions  of  the 

latter ;  uor  do  we  find  that  the  *^  sueitar  "  subject 

here  recommended,  **  the  beuties   of  the  Clyd," 

ever  engaged  the  attention  of  Mure,  whose  pieces 

are  all  of  a  religious  cast.     We  see  by  Ciorayne's 

Itrpeutance  for    ivryting   Poesies   prophane  that 

'  wo  have  also  lost  some  of  his  worldly  strains — 

'  among  others,  a  work  entitled  The  Scottish  Worthies, 

'  in  which  he  may  have  claimed  the  "equality*' 

■  spoken   of  for  his  countrymen.     And,  upon  the 

'.  whole,  seeing  that  we   know   but  little   of  the 

author,  it  behovi'S  me,  I  think,  to  claim  this  waif 

for  the  Garden  '.»f  niv  namesake.  A.  G. 


Shylock.  —  In  the  Legends  of  the  Holy  Hood, 
I  just  published  by  the  E.  E,  T.  S.,  there  is  a  poem 
'  entitled  "  How  ye  Hali  Cros  was  fienden  be  Beint 
Elaine,"  which,  if  written  as  early  as  the  fifteenth 
century,  must  surely  have  furnished  the  materials 
from  which  Shakspeare  drew  his  character  of  the 
Jew  of  Venice.  Let  me  refer  your  readers — your 
readers  of  Shakspeare  especially — to  the  passage 
included  between  lines  71  and  114. 

Edmund  Tew,  M.A« 


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[4»»»  S.  IX.  Fbb.  U,  "7% 


Odd  Change.s*of  Meaning. — A  friend  of  mine 
about  twenty  years  npo  was  instructing  some 
T.iiicolnshire  peasants'  children  in  Scripture  his- 
tioy.  Among  other  questions  she  asked  a  little 
giri  "  What  was  the  Temple?*"  The  reply  she 
tfot  was,  **A  doctor's  shop,  ma'am."  On  being 
•xamincd  as  to  the  reason  for  her  answer,  she 
quoted  Luke  ii.  4G.  Edward  Peacock. 

A  Rutland  Weather  Saying. — The  week 
ending  January  27  was  characterised  by  an  un- 
usual rainfall,  high  winds,  and  a  rise  in  tempera- 
ture. I  was  talking  with  a  Rutland  labourer  on 
that  fruitful  subject,  the  weather,  when  he  said, 
**The  birds  began  to  whistle  this  morning.  We 
shall  have  a  frost  next  week."  He  said  that  this 
was  a  common  saying,  but  I  think  it  is  new  to 
these  pages.  Cuthbert  Bede. 

Two   REMARKABLE  iNSCRiniONS. — 

"  Dor,  (ler  den,  der  den,  den  !.'>«'»  Milrz  liier  jjesetzten 
Wamangspfahl,  das  niemand  otwas  in  dasWasscr  wcrfon 
•ollte,  selbst  in  dan  VVasser  geworfi^n  hat,  anzeigt,  erhiilt 
sehu  Thaler  Belohniinjj." 

"  Whoever,  him,  who,  on  the  ir>t?i  ^f  Mareh  the  here 
plnced  warning-poft,  that  uohody  should  throw  anything 
into  the  water,  has  thrown  th»*  ]iost  itself  into  the  water 
(k'uounces,  recMiivc-.  a  rewurd  of  lo  Thaler.'' 

"0  du  Dido,  ilie  du  da  den.  «ler  den,  den  clu  liebst 
liel»t,  lieb'  0  liebste  <les  FrcumU-s.  di-n  Freund  des  Freundcs, 
dcs  Freundcs  wngen.'' 

••  O  voii  Dido,  voii  who,  him.  who  him  whom  von  love, 
li\ej<,  love,  love  O  deari'st  uf  thi-  friend,  the  friend's 
friend,  for  the  friends  sake.'* 

s.  n. 

Attorney  of  the  oldkn  Timk. — The  following 
humorously  quaint  descripti<.»n  of  an  attorney  of 
the  olden  time  I  copied  nut  a  few  years  ago, 
though  from  what  source  I  cannot  remember.* 

"•All  Attorney. — His  ancient  he-jjinning  was  a  bluecoat, 
.since  a  livery,  and  his  hatching  under  a  lawyer;  whence 
though  hut  pen-feathered  hee  hath  now  nested  for  him- 
^*<  If,  and  with  bis  hoarded  pence  purchased  an  otfico. 
'two  de>k3  and  a  quire  of  paper  sat  him  up,  where  he  now 
^its  in  state  for  all  commers.  Weo  can  cull  him  no  great 
Vi.thor,  yet  he  writes  verj-  much,  and  with  the  infamy 
•  t  the  Court  is  maintained  in  his  libels,  lie  has  some 
■»nntch  of  a  scholler,  and  vet  uses  Latin  vcrv  hardly,  and 
li'-^t  it  should  accuse  him,  cuts  it  off  in  the  midst,  and 
will  not  let  it  syieak  out.  He  Ls,  contrary  to  gre^it  men, 
maintained  by  his  followers,  that  is,  his  poore  country 
clients,  that  w«)rship  him  more  than  their  landlord,  and 
Iks  they  never  such  churles,  he  lookes  for  their  courtesic. 
He  first  ra^kes  them  roundly  himself,  and  then  delivers 
them  to  the  lawyer  (barrister)  for  execution.  His  looks 
are  verA*  solicitous,  importing  much  haste  and  dispatch. 
He  is  never  without  his  hands  full  of  business,  that  is,  of 
paper.  His  skin  becomes  at  last  as  dry  as  parchment, 
and  his  face  as  intricate  as  the  most  winding  course.  He 
talks  statutes  as  fiercely  as  if  he  ha<l  mooted  seven  yearcs 
in  the  Inns  of  Court,  when  all  his  skill  is  stuck  in  his 
*  girdle,  ori  n  his  ofiice  window.  Strife  and  wrangling 
have  made  him  rich,  and  he  is  thankful  to  his  benefactor 

[  *  It  is  from  Bishop  Earle's  Microcosmographie,  1628.] 


and  nourishes  it.  If  he  live  in  a  conntxy  village  he  makes 
all  his  neighbours  good  subjects,  for  there  BhsS.  be  nothini; 
done  but  what  there  is  law  for.  Uis  businesse  ^ves  him 
not  leave  to  think  of  his  conscience,  and  when  the  time  or 
terme  of  his  life  is  going  out,  for  doomes-day  hee  is  secure^ 
for  hee  hopes  he  hath  a  tricke  to  reverse  judgment" 

It  is  curious  to  note  how  forcibly  the  remark 
made  by  William  Combe  in  his  Dance  of  Death 
applies  to  the  solicitors  of  the  present  day : — 

**  And  thus  the  most  opprobrious  fame 
Attends  upon  the  attornei^t  name. 
Nay,  these  professors  seem  ashamed 
To  have  their  le^l  title  named : 
Unless  my  observation  errs, 
They're  oil  become  solicitors" 

J.  S.  Udal. 

Junior  Athenaeum  Club. 

Burns  and  Keblb. — In  Robert  Bums'  song 
commencing  — 

«  Contentit  wi'  little,  and  cantic  wi'  mair,"— 
are  the  lines  — 

*'  When  at  the  biythe  end  o*  our  journey  at  last, 
VVhu  the  deil  ever  thinks  o*  the  road  he  has  passed?'* 

Compare  this  with  Keble's  lines  (for  "  St.  John^a 

"  When  the  shore  is  won  at  last. 
Who  will  count  the  billows  past  ?  " 

Had  the  same  thought  been  expressed  by  any 
writer  before  Burns  ?  Norval  Clths. 

Aberdeen. 

*^  Thk  TnRowixr.  of  the  Hood." — ^This  annual 
custom  took  place  at  Haxey,  LincolnshiKy  on 
Saturday,  Jan.  0,  1872.  I  extract  the  following 
pai'ticulars  from  the  Gainshurgh  Netos  of  the 
13th :  —  At  two  o'clock  in  the  afternoon  the  cere- 
mony was  commenced  by  a  man  called  "  the  foolj" 
who  rt^ad,  standing  in  a  cart,  a  "riot  act";  after 
which  he  and  the  crowd  ran  into  the  fields,  and 
the  game  began.  The  fool's  face  is  painted  in 
colours,  and  his  clothes  are  himg  aoout  with 
various  coloured  rags.  Men  called  "  boggana"  are 
the  masters  of  the  ceremonies.  These  men  idl 
wear  red  jackets,  and  one  of  their  number  is  called 
'^thc  captain  of  all  the  boggans."  The  captain 
throws  a  hood  (one  of  a  bundle  which  he  carries) 
into  the  air.  Tnis  is  caught  by  one  of  the  crow^ 
who  calls  out  "My  hoodl"  and  then  attempts  to 
run  off  with  it  — 

**  He  ran  with  it  as  far  as  he  could,  and  then  gave  it  a 
throw  towards  Hoxey ;  it  was  caught  by  three  or  four 
more,  who  would  not  let  go^conseqaently,  a  regular 
scuffle  took  place,  but  in  a  good-humoured  manner.  Hie 
crowd  pushed  to  fro,  some  trying  for  Hax^,  some  for 
Westwodside,  some  for  Bnmham,"  Ac 

If  the  hood  can  be  touched  by  one  of  the  ^  hof^ 
gans  "  during  the  straggle  for  possession,  it  is  at 
once  given  up  to  him,  taken  back  to  the  startiqg 
point;  and  again  thrown  up  by  the  captain.  Ths 
same,  I  suppose,  with  the  whole  of  the  hoods.  A 
young  man  caught  a  hood  which  he  bironghft  i0  « 


4^  S.  IX.  F«B.  24, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


159 


Haxevy  to  the  Diike  William  inn,  where  he  re- 
ceived for  it  half-a-gallon  of  ale — for  which  the 
''  boggans  "  pay.  Another  reached  Burnham^  and 
received  a  similar  refresher.  Some  innkeepers  will 
give  ten  shillings  for  a  hood,  it  being  considered 
''  a  great  deed  to  get  clear  away  with  a  hood.*' 
There  are  thirteen  '*  boggans/*  but  only  seven  were 
present  on  this  occasion. 

Are  the  origin  and  meaning  of  this  singular  cus- 
tom known  to  any  readers  of  **N.  &  Q."  r 

Thos.  Ratclipfb. 
[See  "  N.  &^Q."  2'»«»  S.  iv.  486.— Ed.] 

Btbon  and  Horace. — I  am  not  aware  if  a  pal- 
pable misquotation  of  Horace  by  Losd  Byron  has 
ever  been  publicly  noticed.  I  allude  to  one  in 
the  first  canto,  stanza  212,  of  Don  Juan,  quoted 
thus:  — 

**  Non  ego  hoc  ferrem  calida  juventa. 

Console  Planco." — Carmen,  14, 1.  3. 

The  erratum  is  calida  for  calidus.  "Calida 
juventa,"  **in  mv  hot  youth,"  is  correct;  but  such 
i.y  not  the  way  the  words  of  Horace  can  be  trans- 
lated— they  are,  ** calidus  juventa,"  "warm  with 
youth**;  and  Byr(»  himself  ^ves  the  metrical 
rendering  of  the  lines  by  Francis  thus :  — 

*'  Such  treatment  Horace  would  not  bear. 
When  warm  icith  youth — when  Tullos  tilled  the  choir."' 

The  error  seems  to  be  a  lapsus  pennte  of  the 
noble  poet,  of  whom  certainly  it  cannot  be  said 
that  he  had  — 

**  Just  enough  of  learning  to  misquote." 

F.  R. 

Parodies,  etc. — Inquiries  have,  I  believe,  been 
made  from  time  to  time  in  "N.  &  Q.*'  for  parodies, 
&c.  The  following  seems  to  be  worthy  of  a  comer 
to  secure  it  from  oblivion. 

In  the  year  1847  a  penny  papei^ntitled  Pasqwn 
appeared,  but  had  a  run  of  eight  numbers  only. 
In  one  of  these  was  the 

**  Carmina  Carminum — Lailna  yKthiopica, 

1. 

*' Alabamac*  natus  sum,  hcri  nomcn  Beale^f 
Puellam  flavam  X  habuit,  cui  nomen  erat  Neale. 
Decrevit  ut  me  vend^t,  quod  furem  me  pntavit ; 
Sic  fatnm,  me  miserrimura,  crudeliter  tractavit ! 
O !  mea  dulcis  Neale,  carior  luce  §  Neale ; 
Si  mecum  hie  accumberis,  quam  Mix  ess<m,  Neale. 

2. 

"  Epistolam  accepi,  nigr&  signature  cer&. 
Ebeu !  puellam  nitidam  abstulerat  mors  fera. 


Nota:  a  Doctitnmo  Dunderhead  tcripta. 

*  Alabama.  Regio  notiasima  Transatlantica.  Incolic 
sane  mirabiles  sunt,  ^s  alienum  grande  conflant,  sed 
solvere  semper  nolunt.  Libertatis  gloriosi,  servitutem 
aaoctiasime  colunt. 

t  Quia  fberit  Bielius  incertum  est.  Non  dubito  quin 
rcpudiator  fuit,  ut  Alabamiensis. 

X  Gave,  lector,  ne  in  errorem  facilem  incidas ;  non 
capilli,  aed  cutis  colorem,  poeta  dcscribit. 

§  Lvoe.  Yerbum  ambigunm  hoc  est.  Consule  doctis- 
iimaai  Pnmt  Uteramm  et  rorit  Hibemici  peritissimum. 


Nunc  vitam  ago  miaeram,  et  cito  moriturus  ; 
Sed  semper  te  meminero,  ut  Hadibus  futurus. 
O !  mea  dulcis  Neale,  carior  luce  Neale ; 
Si  mecum  hie  accumberis,  quam  felix  essem,  Neale.*' 
(Hiatus  baud  deflectus.) 

Frank  Rich  Fowke. 


€iutxiti. 


American  Genealogt. — In  the  British  Mu- 
seum there  is  a  work  called  — 

"  Memorials  of  the  Descendants  of  William  Shattnck, 
the  Progenitor  of  the  Families  in  America  that  have 
borne  his  name.  By  Lemuel  Shattuck,  Member  of  the 
Mass.  Historical  Society,  and  of  the  American  Anti> 
quarian  Society,  &c.  &c.  Boston :  Printed  by  Dutton 
and  Wentworth  for  the  Family,  1856." 

On  pages  57  and  58,  it  states  that  — 

"  he  was  born  in  old  England  in  1G21,  and  died  at  Water- 
ton,  Mass.,  1672,"  and  that  "his  exact  origin  and  early 
histor>'  are  involved  in  obscurity.  The  first  lot  of  land 
granted  to  him  is  described  upon  the  records  as  fbllows, 
1640 :  *  William  Cbattuck,  an  Homstall,' "  Ac.  &c. 

The  work  is  written  to  ascertain  the  English 
origin  of  the  family,  and  contains  a  perfect  pedigree 
of  the  descendants  of  thia  William  Chattuck  down 
to  1855.  If  the  "  legal  personal  representative  "  will 
write  me  as  below,  he  **  may  hear  of  something 
to  his  advantage/'  and  that,  too,  not  merely  in  a 
genealogical  point  of  view.  C.  Chattocx. 

Castle  Bromwich,  Warwickshire. 

Baldtjrsbra,  a  Flower  Name. — 

*'  Purer  than  snow  in  ita  purity. 
White  as  the  foam-crested  waves  of  the  sea, 
Bloometh  alone  in  the  twilight  grav, 
A  flower,  the  gods  call '  BaldursbniT.' " 

Can  Mr.  Britten,  or  any  reader  of  "  N.  &  Q." 
tell  me  what  flower  \:i  meant? 

Thos.  Katclivfe. 


1 


Thomas  Bateman.  M.D. — Who  was  the  author 
J.  R.)  of  a  Life  of  Thomas  Bateman,  M.D.y  F.L,8» 
of  Whitby),  published  by  Longmans  in  1826  P 

C.  A.  Fedebsb. 

Bradford. 

'    Bribery  and  Kissing  — 

**  A  New  Geographical  and  Historical  Grammar,  &c. 
By  Mr.  Salmon.  London :  Printed  for  WUliam  John- 
stone in  Ludgate  Street,    mdcolviii." 

**The  ladies  may  think  it  a  hardship  that  they  are 
neither  allow^I  a  place  in  the  Senate  or  a  voice  in  the 
choice  of  what  is  called  the  representative  of  the  nation. 
However,  their  influence  appears  to  be  such  in  many 
instances  that  they  have  no  reason  to  complain.  In 
boroughs  the  candidates  are  so  wise  as  to  apply  chiefly  to 
the  wife.  A  certain  candidate  for  a  Norfolk  borough 
kissed  the  voter&*  wives  with  guineas  in  his  mouth,  for 
which  he  wa.s  expelled  the  house ;  and  for  this  reaaon 
others,  I  suppose,  will  be  more  private  in  their  addreaMa 
to  the  ladie.^."— Page  241 . 

Can  any  of  yout  tead^t^  Vulanxi  tel^  '^Vo  ^ 


160 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4»»»  S.  IX.  Feb.  24,  72. 


pleasant  prentleman  was,  ami  what  was  the  name 
of  the  favoured  borough  'f 

IIeKHKET  liANDOLPIT. 
I!inp:more. 

"  Call  ra  not  AVeeds,  "  etc. — Where  is  this 
common  quotation,  prefixed  to  all  books  on  sea- 
weeds, to  be  found  r  R.  J.  G, 

[In  The  Mother's  Fables,  by  E.  L.  Aveline,  author  of 
Shnp/i:  Ballads,  jfc,  p.  157,  new  edit.  1801.] 

IFaepwick  and  Worksop. — Can  any  reader  of 
"N.  iV  Q."  inform  me  where  a  piece  of  poetry 
commencing — 

**  ITanlwick  for  bigness,  Worksop  for  height," 

can  be  found  ?  IIobert  White. 

Worksop. 

Heraldic  Book-Plates. — I  ol)s.^rve  with  ro- 
prret  the  death  of  Mr.  George  Barclay  of  Green 
Street,  Leicester  Square,  whose  ta!?te  in  designing 
heraldic  book-plates  was  unsurpasiied.  Is  there  a 
collection  of  examples  executed  by  him  in  exist- 
ence anywhere  ?  I  should  much  like  to  be  re- 
ferrcd  to  anv  collection  of  woodcut  book-plates. 

F.  M.  S. 

IIUTCniNS0N*8    COLLEOTIOy    FOR    HUNTS. — In 

the  Gentleman  ^  Magnzinv  for  Nov.  1^J14  Cp.  245) 

is  the  following :  — 

**  We  have  antliority  for  statinir  that  John  Syminon«ls, 
P-sq.,  of  PaildinRtun  Houjso,  in  mlilition  to  the  purchase 
he  pomttim**  sincf  made  of  llutchinsf»n's  ColK'ction  for 
Hunts,  all  ready  for  the  pn'**s,  jjftfr  a  labour  of  thirty 
years,  has  recently  purchased  the  further  heraldic  ones 
for  the  said  county." 

I 

Where  are  these  MSS.  at  the  present  moment  'r  I 

T.  1M\    1 

[lu  1824  Hutchinson's  MSS.  were  in  the  possewon  of 
Sir  R.  C.  Hoare,  Bart.    "  N.  &  Q."  3^**  S.  vi.  IH.] 


running  beneath  her  feet.  She  holds  in  her  arms  the 
Infant  Saviour;  and  lilies,  emblems  of  purity,  are  grow- 
ing by  her  side.] 

Mr.  Matthew^.— In  the  Letter9  of  the  Pint 
E'trl  of  Malmeshnn/  I  find  (i.  4.')4)  that  Mr.  Harris 
d»'pir«\^  his  "grateful  thanks  to  that  ablt*  scholar, 
Mr.  Matthews,  fr-r  his  valuable  publications." 
What  were  these  publications  -r  Viatob. 

Oratorio. — There  is  an  oratorio,  the  libretto 
of  which  is  taken  from  the  Rev.  W.  1^.  BowWs 
poem  »S7.  John  in  Patmos.  Can  any  of  your 
rearlers  acquainted  with  musical  literature  inibrm 
me  whether  Mr.  Bowlts>  himself  selected  fuid 
arranged  the  words  of  this  oratorio  from  his 
pi^)em  'r  Who  composed  the  music,  and  what  was 
the  date  of  performance  ?  I{.  Inglts. 

Plaster  of  Tarras,  ^'to  make  cisterns  to  hold 
wntt%"  is  mentioned  in  the  Common*  Journals  for 
July  30,  lOpi)  (vol.  vii.  p.  741),  What  sort  of 
plaster  wasjt,  aud  whence  the  name  P 

A.  O.  V.  P. 

I  Tarras,  writt.^n  alsoTras.s  is  a  volcanic  earth  or  sand- 
rock  resi>niblin;;  puzzolami,  iwd  as  a  cement ;  or  a  ooane 
.<(ort  of  plaster  and  mortar,  durable  in  water,  and  used  to 
line  cistirns  jind  other  reservoirs  of  water.  The  Dutch 
tarras  is  made  of  a  soft  rock  stone,  foand  near  Collen,  on 
thi'  lower  part  of  the  Khine.  It  is  burned  like  lime,  and 
reduced  to  powder  in  mills.    It  is  of  a  grayish  colour.] 

CorxT  l^KRTRAND  RiMBAULT. — I  have  R  Small 
cutting  from  a  magazine,  perhaps  a  century  old, 
which  gives  the  following  passage  on  a  subject  of 
(to  mej  some  interest.  1  should  be  glad  of  a 
reference  to  the  magazine  in  which  it  is  found ; 
or,  what  would  be  still  better,  to  the  source  from 
whence  it  has  been  obtained : — 

"The  following  narrative,  taken  from  the  record!  of 
Lan^ue<lo(!,  will  evince  the  nia^inificence,  folly,  nnil  bar- 
MarY-LE-BOXE. — Is  Mary-le-bone  =  (1 )  Marie     barity  habitual  to  the  nobility  of  the  earlv  ages.    In  1174 
le  hone  (the  le  being  a  Picard  idi.)m,  according  to     ^^♦'"O- 1]-  of  France'  called  together  the  seignean  of  Lan- 
which  /cwas  both  masculine  and  feminine);  or  !  f[»^^f^'^  >"  "^k^  to  mediate  a  peace  bet^^ 
ATX  Vr     •    /  r\  /^    z  "^•**^"*"''!  "*    A         V      I  I   i"«l<»"'*«'  and  the  Kmg  of  Arragon.  As  Honry,  however, 

(2)  Mane  (of)  the  bourne,  or  boundary,  tr.  borne     ,ii,i  „„t  attend,  the  nobles  hadTothing  to  do  but  emuUta 


bemg  anciently  and  correctly  written  bone  or  btmne^ 
from  Low  Ijatin  bonna ;  or  (•'»)  Mary  \(oi)  the 
bourn,  or  stream,  from  A.-S.  bunia,  brune;  oris 
there  any  other  more  plausible  explanation  ? 

J.  Pay5i:. 
Kildare  Gardens,  W. 

[Thomas  Smith,  in  hiB  Account  of  St.  Man/'le-ljotte^ 
l'<3.3,  p.  3,  informs  us  that  "the  pari-h  r»f  St.  Mary-K- 
bone  derives  its  name  from  the  ancient  vilhigt*  of  Ty- 
Ikornc  or  Ty-bourne,  which  was  .situated  on  the  eastern 
bunk  of  a  brook  or  rivulet  (bourn  Iwinir  the  Saxon  word 
for  a  brook),  which  passe<1,  undtr  dirtV-rent  denomina- 
tions, from  Ilampstead  into  the  Thames.  When  the  site 
of  the  church,  which  was  originally  dedicated  to  St.  .John 
the  Kvangelist,  and  subseqtientlyto  the  Hlessed  Virgin 
Marj',  was  removed  to  another  spot  upar  the  same  brook, 
it  WflH  called  St.  Mary  at  thp  Bourne,  afterwards  cor- 
rupted to  Marj'boume,  Marybone,  Mary-la-bonne,  and 
now  styled  in  the  preambles  of  its  various  local  legisla- 
tive cnnctments  St.  Mary-Ie-bone.*'  Hence  the  seal  of 
the  parish  bears  a  figure  of  St.  Mar}-,  with  a  stream 


each  other  in  wild  magnificence,  extended  to  insanity. 
Atnon^  other  instances,  the  Countess  L'rgel  sent  to  tne 
nic  iiii;ra  diadem  worth  4000  mo(LTn  )M»unds,to  be  placed 
im  till*  head  ofa  wnrtched  buiriKHi.  The  Count  of  TouIooM 
sint  a  donation  of  lOOu/.  ti»  a  tavourito  knii;ht,  who  dia- 
tributi'd  that  sum  anuntu:  all  the  |)oori.'r  knight«  tliatat- 
tondt'd  tlie  meeting.    Tin-  sviuinnir  <iuillaume  (iroa  de 
Martt.'l  L^tvc  an   immense  dinni-r,  the  viands  being  all 
cooked  by  the  iianic  of  wax  tapirs.      But  the  singular 
rational  ma;;nitlecnce  of    Count  Bertrand  Bimbamt  at- 
tracted the  loudest  applause:   for  he  set  the   peasants 
about  Beaucain!  to  phuii^h   up  the  sr)il;    and  then  he 
proudly  and  opi^nly  sowtnl  therein  small  pieces  of  moncnr, 
to  the  amount  of  llftcim  hundred  English  gnineaa.** 

The  story  is  evidently  not  complete,  bat  here 
my  extract  ends.  I  should  ba  glad  of  any  in- 
formation concerning  my  ezceedin^y  foolish  an- 
cestor. *  KdWABD  F.  RnCBAULT. 

Scissors.  —  When  did  the  vexj  well-kaowft 
article*  a  pair  of  scissors,  first  miuka  ita 


fi'S-lX  Feb.  34,  73.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIBS. 


161 


ance  in  England  ?  I'erlinps  some  one  in  Ilftllam- 
shin  has  iiivestigated  the  mutter,  and  could  give 
the  infiirmatiriD.  It  would  be  necessarj  to  dis- 
tiDgaieh  between  BcissoM  proper  and  what  I  take 
to  Iw  the  much  earlier  type  of  implement — the 
aprinfc  pheara — now  represented  by  "  sheep  shears" 
and  die  much  smaller  implement  of  precisely  the 
same  pattern  used  by  weavers  (of  linen). 

On  ihe  sepulchr^  alabs  of  the  nuddle  ages  in 
England,  Ireland,  lona,  &c.,  the  spring  ahenrs 
are  frequently  found  sculptured,  and  from  the 
mode  iu  which  tbia  emblem  oecum,  it  is  evidently 
Ufied  to  indicate  the  female  sex,  in  the  same  way 
that  the  sword,  on  other  slabs  belon^ng  to  the 
aome  ai^e  and  localities,  indicates  the  male ;  the 
shear?  being  adopted  as  a  eymbul  of  tlie  domestic 
occupations  of  the  Iniiy,  while  the  sword  was  her 
husband's  familiar  implement.  Had  what  we 
Imow  as  scissors  been  known  in  the  thirteenth 
and  fourteenth  centuries,  they  would  probably 
hare  been  sculptured  on  these  cross-slabs,  and  not 
the  shears.  W.  H.  P. 

ScoBEfl. — At  Ixiwestoft  the  bmes  or  alleys 
leadina  from  the  High  Street  to  the  Denea  are 
termed  "Scorea."  la  this  a  local  nameP  and  ia 
it  derived  from  these  lanes  havinff  originally  been 
clefts  or  fissures  in  the  cliff  on  which  that  part  of 
the  town  is  built  P  One  of  them  is  called  *' Itant 
Score.*'  Is  this  BO  named  from  a  former  inhabitant 
erf  the  town  or  neighbourhood?  If  so,  who  and 
irtatwasho?  T.  B. 

BESt»c— The  French  chroniclers  describe  by 
this  nmne  the  battle  which  the  English  call  the 
Battle  of  Hastings.  Whence  comes  "  ijenlac  "  ? 
Is  it  a  corruption  of  any  geaoiac  Sason  word  ? 


by 

of  l)ie  iron  which  aUounils  id  (he  nil  of  the  Weald  of 
SuMCX.  Mr.  Freeman,  m  hia  recent  work  on  the  AWmaa 
Qnt^til,  iii.  745.  cava,  -  The  naine  of  Senile  for  thu  bill 
on  which   Unrold  encamped  rcetf,  u  Tor  u  1  know, 


the  word,  which  evidently  t 

Ukg,  tc,  in  variou)  epenint'*, '  the  Laiie,'  •  Battle  Lake,' 
lail  10  forth.    Saogtac,  or  Saoguelae,  I  take  to  be  aimply 


a  French  pun  on  the  nan 


■-"1 


SufAiTic  IsscRiPTioirs. — Slany  years  'ago  the 
Ker.  C.  ForsCer  attempted  to  prove  that  theae 
were  the  work  of  the  Israelites,  and  many  persona 
are  atiU  of  that  opinion.  For  instance,  the  Rev. 
H.  Shepheard  in  a  recently  published  work,  Tra- 
diliont  of  Eden,  1871,  fully  endorses  it.  I  am 
aware,  however,  that  Oriental  scholars  entirely 
dinirnt  from  this  opinion,  and  condder  the  in- 
KnptioB*  to  be  of  comparatively  modem-date. 


In  any  case  the  existence  of  such  inscriplioDS 
ia  remarkable :  in  what  work,  therefore,  could  I  * 
find  their  real  origin  and  character  ^mply  and 
correctly  stated?  A  gentleman  wrote  recently  to 
The  Times  to  say  that  a  valuable  inscribed  itotM, 
bearing- the  name  of  Moses,  had  been  discorered  Id 
the  land  of  Moab,  which,  however,  he  suba»- 
quently  ascertained  to.be  a  Nabathmaninscriptioit 
of  the  same  class,  and  of  no  value.  New  could 
any  one  state  whether  the  inscription  reoUv  bean 
the  interpretation  he  assigned  to  it;  and  if  ao, 
with  what  object  is  it  conceived  that  insciiptianf 
of  the  sort  were  graven  ?  A.  R.  L. 

[Has  the  attention  of  our  correjpnndent  liten  directed 
to  the  articles  on  the  rabject  in  Tht  Tinut  of  Jtoiuu; 
3G  and  27  lut,  and  la  Thi  Athtimm  of  Febroaiy  8  t^ 

"Suoak!"— Could  any  of  j-our  renders  who 
(ue  versed  in  parliamentary  anecdote  give  the 
name  of  the  orator  who  began  his  speech  by  ut- 
leric^i:  the  single  word  "  Sugar,''  and  the  date  of 
the  delivery  of  the  speech,  which,  from  the  pecu- 
liarity of  its  commencement,  excited  .'coD.^iderabla 
and  amusement  at  the  time?     J.  L,  0. 


rn-e 


lergrnia 


is  lermon.wilh  tlie  word  '•SHrely."] 

Gkorgb  1\'atso3(  Taylor,  Esq.,  of  Erlstok^ 
M.P.,  was  autlioc  of  I'iecFi  of  Poetry  with  two 
Ih-avmt,  Chiawick,  1830.  One  of  these  dramaiy 
The  PrqfligaU,  was  privattily  printed  in  or  abont 
1331 ;  t^e  other,  EuglamI  I'leierced,  had  bees 
publiiihed  in  17t)C.  In  the  Biographia  Draniatica 
Mr.  Watson  is  said  to  have  held  some  legal  ap- 
pointment in  India.  Is  this  statement  correct  P 
What  is  the  date  of  Mr.  WBtfan  Ta^-lor's  death, 
and  where  can  I  find  an;  biographic  notice  of 
him  P  He  printed  a  few  copies  of  Equanimity  v* 
Death,  n  poem,  1613.  Is  ttiispoem  reprinted  in 
the  volume  which  appeared  at  Chiswick  iu  1880  P 
R.IicoLis, 

TnoBKTOK  Abbet. — In  the  nilii»i  of  Thornton 
Abbey,  Lincolnshire,  there  ia  a  winding  descent  of 
fourteen  steps  to  a  vaulted  prison  or  "  duneeom" 
(ten  feet  six  iuche.s  long,  and  seven  feet  wide),  to 
which,  when  the  door  was  shut,  the  imly  admis- 
sion of  light  and  air  was  by  a  flue  amending  to  an 
aperture,  nine  inches  by  two,  in  the  sill  of  a  hlank 
window  inside  the  cnapter-house.  This  slope 
widens  to  one  foot  six  inches  in  one  end  of  the 
dungeon,  and  is  snid  to  have  been  for  the  con* 
veyance  of  food  to  the  imprismiod ;  but,  th8 
opening  being  above  thi!  stalls  and  about  eleyen 
feet  from  the  orifcinal  floor,  a  ladder  or  steps  of 
some  kind  would  be  rer^uired  to  reach  it.  Cas 
any  reader  of  "  N.  &  Q."  oblige  l\v  an  e:tplBll*- 
tion  of  this  connection  with  the  thapter-hoiliutf 
and  naming,  if  such  there  be,  itny  other  liMH 
arrangement?  i-'' 


i2 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


L* 


Vel>'ET. — I  havo  in  my  possession  a  piece  of  =  "  Ces  tjimrmeii  ctaient  logardc-s  par  les  goHrmtmd$ 
Ty  ancient  crimson  silk  velvet  or  plush,  gore-  \  corame  des  hommcs  absolumcnt  essentiels  dans  rfetau"'— 
aped.    Four  such  woul«  •  cover  a  skull-cap.     It     Espr.  de  rEncyd, 


as  bequeathed  to  me  hv  the  late  Benson  Earle 

fill,  with  ft  memorandum  that  it  is  a  portion  of 

hat  which  had  covered  the  helmet  of  Charle- 

nag^e,  once  in  the  private  museum  of  Napoleon, 

And  now,  I  think,  preserved  in  the  Rotunda  at 

Woolwich.      "When   was    velvet  or  plush   first 

made  ?  U.  0 — N. 

[Velvet,  formerly  called  vellot,  is  mentioned  by  Join- 
ville,  A.D.  1272,  and  in  the  will  of  Richard  II.  in  1399. 


In  this  apposite  passage  we  have  both  the 
words ;  the  ffourmvt  leads  the  gourmand,  Brachat 
gives  the  origin  of  gourmand  as  uncertain.  Littr^ 
points  the  primary  meaning  to  be  eating  greedily, 
the  secondary  to  reprimand  severely;  Kichaidaon 
throws  out  as  a  hint  gnust  matiger,  to  eat  with 
taste ;  but  this  is  a  fane  v.  The  Frencb  seem  to 
be  as  much  in  the  dixvk  as  we  are.  There  is 
a  word   gourde   swollen  by    cold  —  "lee  nudns 


carried  on  to  a  prcat  extent.  It  was  subsequently  intro- 
duced into  France,  and  brought  to  p^at  perfection.  On 
the  revocation  of  tho  Edict  of  Nantes  in  1B85  this  branch 
of  weaving  was  begun  in  England  by  the  refugees.] 

"WiLLT. — I  am  told  (never  having  visited  the 
j^ace)  that  "Wilton  in  "Wiltshire  is  on  the  river 
willy.  Can  any  of  your  numerous  readers  (some 
of  whom  seem  to  be  enthusiastic  Celtic  scholars) 
give  me  the  derivation  of  the  name  WiUg  f  It  is 
probably  Celtic,  like  so  much  of  English  river 
nomenclature.  I  can  find  no  attempt -at  a  solu- 
tion, although    I    have  searched  several   topo- 


is  the  real  root  of  the  word,  for  Rabelais  (liv.  L 
chap,  xxxiv.)  writes :  — 

**  Car  jamais  homme  no  sceut  mieulx  prandre,  larder, 
roustir,  ct  aprestcr,  voyrc  par  dieu  dcfmembrer,  et  gom^ 
mander  poulle  que  moy.'* 

In  the  glossary  they  give  this  as  equivalent  to 
larding  a  fowl.  I  tidce  this  to  be  the  prinuuT 
meaning.  To  render  gourde  by 'stuffing  or  swell- 
ing out,  goimnes  is  one  of  the  ezistinff  dialectictl 
forms  of  the  word.  Gourmer  is  found  in  Kouchi 
''  to  taste  wine,"  and  Wedgwood  says  it  mnat  have 
meant  *'to  eat  greedily," — and  I  think  so  too. 


early  explanation,  as  a  somewhat  interesting  eth- 
nological question  is  involved  in  the  derivation. 

W.  K.  M. 


GOUKMAXD :  GOURMET. 

(4«»'  S.  ix.  89.) 

The  note  by  Mr.  Picton  introduces  a  confu- 
sion as  to  tho  meaning  of  these  words.  He  says 
that,  on  reference  to  authorities,  gourmand  was 
found  to  stand  for  a  voracious  eater,  and  that 

fourmet  has  nothing  to  do  with  eating  at  all. 
Irst  let  the  present  French  use  of  the  word  be 
settled.     In  iSoel  and  Chapsal's  Dictionary  we 
find:  — 
•*  Gourmand^  qui  nian|!:e  avidemcnt  et  avec  excos.'' 
*'  Gourmet^  amateur  ct  connaisscur  en  vins  et  en  bonne 
chfere." 

Bescberelle  gives  — 

*<  Gimrmetf  celui  qui  sait  bien  connaitre  et  gouter  le 
Tin,  les  mets.'* 

Hence,  in  the  French  language  of  this  day,  it  is 
to  be  admitted  that  gourmet  stands  for  a  critical 
taster^  no  matter  whether  in  fluids  or  solids.  He 
is  no  more  a  drinker  of  wine  than  an  eater  of 
meat;  he  is  a  judge  of  both.  There  were  tasters 
in  Rome,  whose  office  was  to  determine  whether 
-^Hain  fish  were  caught  at  the  mouth  of  the 
"--"•  out,  and  whether  the  geese  were 


graphical^  works,  and  should  be^  thankful^for  an  |  (;f,rge,  gorgo,  gorgolio,  gurgoo,  G.  ^^^-our  gul- 

*,„«  ^4.        let,  the  swallow  of  waters.  To^ormis,intheNoirth| 
''to  smear  with   fat'^  goumumder,  as  Rabelais 
has  it.  The  cormorant  is  only  Aportnorant  Oorma 
is  its  northern  name  (vide  Ilalliwell,  Did.  Artk.). 
Oorrell  is  a  fat  person.     Oorhelly  is  a  fat  stomach. 
Gorhh  is  in  some  counties  used  for  gobble,     OcT' 
crow  is  carrion-crow.    Junius  says  that  gor  is  an 
intensive  particle  in  Welsh.    Lye  gives  pior  for 
voracious,  in  Icelandic.   Our  word  Jaw  clearly  tf 
connected,  and  r7ia?r,  now  a  chawman  or  gormm 
would  not  be  far  from  Mfwirmand,     Gore  is  stO 
a  Norfolk  word  for  mud  and  dirt     Gorre  metf 
sow,  in  the  Romance  tongue  (see  Roquefort).  17 
throat  is  made  large,  gor  or  groSf  in  swallowir 
and  so  gorge  and  guUef  are  toTmed,    Dirt  is  1 
trituration  of  matter  by  the  '*  tooth  of  time 
razure  of  oblivion,*'  the  chawed  thing  becon 
gore  or  dirt.     Reinaud  gives  goulS  as  the  Pel 
for  bourscy  a  purs<*,  being  the  throat  that  %mX 
money :  and  thus  analogy  leads  on  from  gc 
clot  J  gloty  glutted,  goUeted,  gullet^  the  swaUow 
for  the  trituration  of  the  jaw ;  but  I  think  er 
has  been  said  on  the  meaning  oigotirnumd  a 
origin.  C.  A 

Mayfair. 


RELICS  OF  OLIVER  CROMWELL :  THE  S 

PORTRAIT. 

(4»»»  S.  viii.  550  j  ix.  75,  80.) 

Mr.  Pickfobi),  at   the  above  referer 
reproduced  the  ridiculous  stoiji  "as  told 


4^  S.  IX.  Feb.  24, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


163 


of  the  manner  in  which  the  well-known  Sidney 
portrait  of  Cromwell  was  presented  to  that  col- 
lege. Who  first  originated  this  story  it  is  in  vain 
to  inquire ;  but,  as  far  as  I  have  been  able  to 
ascertain,  it  first  found  a  "  local  habitation ''  in 
the  Cambridffe  Portfolio  (p.  397),  edited  by  the 
Rev.  J.  J.  Smith  in  1840 ;  from  this  it  was  shortly 
after  copied  into  Le  Keux's  Memoriah  of  Cam- 
bridge ;  and  Mr.  C.  H.  Cooper,  with  less  than 
hie  usual  cautious  investigation,  continued  it  in 
Mb  new  edition  of  that  work.  But  in  these  works 
there  is  this  variation  from  Mr.  Pickford*s  ver- 
sion,— that  the  master  of  the  college  was  to  stand 
at  the  top  of  the  staircase,  so  as  not  to  be  seen  by 
the  bearers  of  the  portrait,  and  to  say  "  I  have  it, 
Mb.  Pickford*s  young  friend  fixed  the  date  of  the 
occurrence  during  the  mastership  of  Dr.  Chafy, 
which  was  from  1818  to  1843 ;  whereas  the  por- 
trait was  presented  in  1766,  and  although  sent 
anonymou^y,  it  has  been  known  for  a  century 
that  the  donor  was  Thomas  Hollis.  See  Memoirs 
of  HoUis  (2  vols.  4to,  I^ndon,  1780),  i.  298 ; 
]Nichols*s  Lit^ary  AnecdoteSy  iii.  64. 

The  surest  way  of  once  for  all  putting  an  extin- 
guisher upon  this  silly  story  is  to  show  it  up  in 
^  N.  &  Q.  as  a  pure  fiction.  This  I  am  enaoled 
io  do  on  the  very  best  authority.  The  present 
cotuteouB  master  of  Sidney  College,  Br.  Phelps, 
has  kindly  allowed  me  to  examine  the  documents 
connected  with  the  presentation  (which  are  very 
caiefally  preserved  in  the  lodge),  and  to  make  a 
copy  of  tne  two  letters  of  the  donor  for  insertion 
in  "  N.  &  Q."    The  following  is  the  first  letter : 

'*  An  Englishman,  an  aMertor  of  liberty,  citizen  of  the 
world,  is  deairoDS  of  having  the  honor  to  present  an 
ori^^nml  portrait  in  crayons  of  the  head  of  O.  Cromwell, 
Protector,  drawn  by  dooper,  to  Sydney  Sussex  College 
in  Cambridge. 

**■  London,  Jan.  15, 1766. 

**  I  freelv  declare  it,  I  am  for  old  Noll. 
TboQgk  his  government  did  a  tyrant  resemble. 
He  made  England  great,  and  her  enemies  tremble. 

"  It  is  requested  that  the  portrait  should  be  placed  so 
at  to  receive  the  light  from  left  to  right,  and  be  Aree  from 
TffttAinn.  Also  that  the  favor  of  a  line  may  be  written 
on  the  arrival  of  it,  directed  to  '  Pierce  Delver,  at  Mr. 
Shore's,  Bookbinder  in  Maiden  Lane,  Covent  Garden, 
London. 

"  To  the  Master  and  Fellows  of  Sydney  Sussex  Col- 
lege^ Cambridge.*' 

The  second  letter  is  as  follows : — 

**  A  small  case  was  sent  yesterday  by  the  Cambridge 
waggon  from  the  Green  Dragon,  Bishopsgate  Street, 
diieeted  *  To  D'  Elliston,  Master  of  Sydney  Sussex  Col- 
lege, Cambridge.  Free  of  carriage.* 
:  **  It  contains  a  poiptrait  which  the  master  and  fellows 
of  that  college  are  requested  to  accept. 

"London,  Jan.  18, 1766." 

These  were  the  onlv  communications  received 
hr  the  college  from  tl&e  donor.  How  and  when 
hifl  name  was  discovered  there  is  no  record  to 
•how,  Dor  any  tradition ;  but  the  letters  were  so 
cfcaneterittic,  tiiat  it  could  not  long  remain  a 


secret ;  and  we  learn  from  the  Metnoirs  of  Thomas 
JSoUU  that  it  was  known  in  1780.  ^e  died  in 
1774,  when  it- was  probably  revealed,  if  not  be- 
fore. Nichols  {Literary  Anecdotes)  gives  the  date 
of  presentation  as  1764,  whilst  the  Cambridge 
Portfolio  and  the  Memorials  of  Cambridge  make  it 
1766 ;  both,  we  know  from  the  letters,  ture  in  error. 
The  two  latter  authorities  also  make  the  more 
important  mistake  of  ascribing  the  gift  to  Brand- 
Hollis,  to  whom  Hollis  bequeathed  his  estate^ 
and  who  thereupon  assumed  nis  name. 

The  portrait  is  the  size  of  nature,  and  is  a 
beautiful  work  of  art,  in  coloured  cravons,  and  in 
an  excellent  state  of  preservation.  The  chief  ex- 
pres£ion,  as  characteristic  of  the  man,  appears  to  me 
to  be  in  the  closely  compressed  lins,  which  convey 
the  idea  of  great  resolution  and  nrmness.  It  has 
been  engraved  by  P.  S.  Lamboume,  J.  Bretherton, 
and  P.  Drevet,  sen.  There  is  also  a  very  fair 
etching  of  it  in  the  Cambridge  Portfolio,  except 
that  the  upper  lip  is  too  large  and  has  too  much 
form. 

Cromwell,  as  is  well  known,  was  an  under- 
graduate of  Sidney  College,  and  his  name  b  duly 
recorded  in  the  admission  book,  April  23,  1616. 
Beneath  this  entry  is  written  the  following  illus- 
tration of  his  character : — 

**  Hie  fait  grandis  ille  impostor,  camifex  perditissimiis, 
qui,  pientissimo  rege  Carolo  I.  nefari&  ciede  sublato, 
ipsum  usnrpavit  thronnm,  et  tria  regna  per  qninque 
ferm^  annorum  spatium,  sab  Protectoris  nomine,  m- 
domit&  tyrannido  vezavit !  ** 


Without  going  into  detail,  many  of  these  are 
to  be  seen  at  Newburgh  Park  and  Famley  Hall, 
Yorkshire.  See  Murray's  Handbook  for  York- 
shire,  pp.  218,  362,  where  full  particulars  are 
given.  H.  F.  T. 

MARRIAGE  WITH  A  DECEASED  WIFE'S 

SISTER. 

(4»»»  S.  ix.  75.) 

Perhaps  the  following  contribution,  imperfect 
as  it  is,  to  the  bibliography  of  this  subject  majy 
not  he  unwelcome  to  the  correspondent  who  is 
interested  in  it : — 

"A  Serious  Inquiry  into  the  Weighty  Case  of  Con- 
science, whether  a  Man  mav  UwfWly  marry  his  Deceased 
Wife's  Sister."  By  John  Quick,  Minister  of  the  Gospel. 
1703,  sm.  4to. 

"*  The  Case  of  Marriages  between  near  kindred  parti- 
cularly considered,  with  respect  to  the  Doctrine  of  Scrip- 
ture, the  Law  of  Nature,  and  the  Laws  of  England.** 
London,  1756,  8vo. 

**  The  Legal  Degrees  of  Marriage  sUted  and  considered, 
in  a  Series  of  Letters  to  a  Friend.    With  an  Appendix 
containing  Letters  from  several  Divines  and  others.''   By 
John  Alleyne,  Esq.,  Barrister- at-Law.    3rd  ed.    Lq!cAq&« 
1810, 8vo.  ,    ^ 

"Observations  on  the  ProhiYntVm  c^  Uixt^«^\T^^«^ 


164 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[iti"  S.  IX.  Fbb.  2i  'Tl 


tain  Coses  of  Relationship  bv  Affinitv."  London :  Seeley, 
1840,  8vo. 

"  :ivyy4veia.  A  Dispasfiionate  Appeal  to  the  Judg- 
ment of  the  Clerjr}-  of  the  Church  of  Eugland  on  n.  Pro- 
posed Altiratioii  of  the  Law  of  Marriage."  London, 
184t),  8vo. 

"  Marriage  with  a  Deceased  Wife's  Sister.  A  Reply  to 
the  Article  u])on  the  Subject  in  the  Quarterly  Review  for 
June,  1849  ;  together  with  a  short  Statement  of  the  Facts 
bearing  upon  the  Question."  By  Kdward  Priehard. 
London  :  E.  Newman,  1841),  8vo. 

*•  Marriage  with  the  Sister  of  a  Deceased  Wife  injurious 
to  Morals,  and  unauthorizctl  by  Holy  Scripture."  By  the 
Rev.  (ieorgc  Crolv,  LL.D.  London  :  .1.  Kundrick,  1849, 
8vo. 

"An   Examination  of  the  Rev.  John   Keble's  Tract 
again.st  Profane  Doaling  with  Holv  Matrimonv,  in  regard  | 
of  a  Mnn  and  his  Wile's  Sister."  'By  an  Eugfioli  Church- 
man.     London:  lloulston,  1849,  Hvo.  '  ' 

"  On  Marriage  with  the  Sister  of  a  Deceased  Wife.    A 
Sermon  Preached  in  Bocking  Church,  on  Sunday,  March  \ 
17,  1860."  By  Ikiiry  Carrington,  M.A..  Dean  and  Rector,  ' 
&c.    2nd  ed."  London  :  Longmans,  1850,  8vo. 

*'Spei-'li  of  William  Pajro  Wood,  Esq.,  against  the  ! 
Second  Keading  "f  the  Bill  fur  altering  the  Law  of  Mar-  i 
ria;ro,  Fel».  27,  1«.'»m."     London  :  llivingt(»n.-.,  l«")0,  8vo. 

*' Reasons  for  Lpgali>ing  Marriage  with  a  Deceased  i 
Wife's  Sister."  Bv  I^rd  Dennian.  London  :  Ilatchards,  \ 
18r,2.  8vo. 

'*  Law  of  Marri.ige.  The  Speech  of  hi:*  (iraoe  the  Arch- 
bishop of  Canterbury,  in  the  House  of  Lords.  Feb.  25, 
l?<ol,  on  the.  Marriage-^  in  Aflinity  Bill,  txatnined  by  the 
Word  of  (;od  and  Common  Sense.  By  W.  A.  Atkins, 
hi  a  LettiT  to  his  (irace,  with  an  Appendix  containing 
his  Gra.-.^'s  Speech,"  Salford  :  W.  F.  Jackson,  1851,  8vo. 
**  Marriage  with  a  Deceased  Wife's  Sister.  Letters 
from  the  Right  Rev.  Bishop  Mcllvaineof  Ohio,  and  other 
eminent  Persons  in  the  United  States  of  America  in 
favour  of."  Ike.  Printed  ff>r  the  Mniriau'c  Law  R<.'form  i 
Association,  2(),  Parliament  Street,  London  :  J.  Madden,  j 
1851,  8vo. 

**  The  Men  of '  ilasgow  and  the  Women  of  Scotland. 
Reasons  fur  difiVring  fn^m  the  Rev.  Dr.  Symington's 
View  of  the  Levitical  Marriage  Law,"  &c.  ByT.  Binney. 
2nd  ed.     London  :  Ward  &  Co.,  8vo,  1850. 

"An  Argument  in  relation  to  the  Levitical  Marriage 
Law,  partioulariy  as  atfe<'tiug  the  Que-^tion  of  the  Mar- 
riage of  a  Widower  with  his  Deceased  Wife's  Sister.  By 
T.  Binney.  4th  ed.  With  a  preliminary  Statement  of 
certain  Degrees  of  Physical  and  Spiritual  Allinity,  pro- 
hibited by  the  Greek  Church  and  the  Papal  Apostacy." 
Iw^ndon  :  *Wanl  »t  Co.,  8vo. 

[The  same  work  as  the  foregoing.] 

**  The  Validity  of  ilarriage  with  a  Wife's  Sister  cele- 
brated Abroad."  Bv  Kdmund  Beckett  Denison,  of  Lin- 
coin's  Inn,  Barrister-at-Law.  London:  J.  W.  Parker, 
l.sr)2,  8vo. 

**  A  Scripture  Argument  against  permitting  Marriage 
Willi  a  Wife's  Sister."  By  the  Rev.  Dr.  J.  A.  Hcssey, 
Head  Master  of  Merchant  Taylors'  Scln)ol,  and  Preacher 
(•f  (iray's  Inn.     London:  Rivingtons,  ls55,  8vo. 

**  The  Ancient  Interpretation  of  Leviticus  xviii.  18,  as 
received  in  the  Churcli  for  more  than  15o0  Years,  a  sulli- 
cient  Apology-  for  holding  that,  according  to  the  Word  of 
God,  Marriage  with  a  Deceased  Wife's  Sister  is  Lawful. 
A  Letter  to  the  Rev.  W.  H.  Lyall,  M.A.,  Rector  of  St. 
Dionis  Buckchurch,  from  the  Rev.  A.  McCaul,  D.D,, 
Rector  of  St.  Magnus,"  &c.  London  :  Wertheim,  1859, 
8vo. 

"A  Vindication  of  the  Law  prohibiting  Marriage 
with  a  Deceased  wife's  Sistnr.    I.  On  Social  Principles. 


IL  On  Scripture  Principles.  In  Two  Letters  aMntrnd 
to  the  Dean  of  Westminster,  Chairman  of  th«  Maniags 
Law  Defence  As.'»ociation."  By  Vice-Chancellor  Sir  Wm. 
Page  Wood.    London:  Rivington*,  1861,  8vo. 

"Facts  and  Opinions  tending  to  show  the  Seriptaral 
Lawfulness  of  Marriage  with  a  Deceased  Wife's  Sirttf, 
and  the  consequent  necessity  for  its  Legalization  in  Enf^ 
land,  in  accordance  with  the  Laws  and  Practice  of  ote 
Christian  Nations."  London  :  M.  L.  B.  AssodatSM 
1864, 8vo.  ,     . 

"  The  Present  and  the  Proposed  SUte  of  the  Maniflg* 
Law,  Theologicallv,  Morally,  Socially,  and  Legally  con- 
sidered." Bv  a  Graduate  in  Classical  and  Mathemattol 
Honoure,  Ca'mbridge,  of  B.  D.  standing.  Londoa: 
Ilatchard  &  Co.,  18ti4,  sm.  8vo. 

••  On  Marriage  with  a  Deceased  Wife's  Sister,  lur* 
Man  Marry  his  Wife's  Sister  ?  "  By  Mrs.  ColinMackaula 
London  :  Nisbct,  1865,  sm.  8vo. 

I  do  not  give  the  title  of  Dr.  Puaey's  punpUfl^ 
which  appears  to  be  missing  from  inv  collcctifl^ 
nor  of  tne  various  publications  of  the  MaMg 
Law  Reform  Association,  some  score  of  wm 
are  advertised  upon  the  wrappers  of  the  aepaa^ 
tractd,  and  may  probably  still  be  obtained  ij  f 
plication  at  the  office  of  the  society,  21,  Pari*" 
ment  Street,  S.W.  William  Batw,  EA. 

Birmingham. 

A  well-written  article  (extending  to  18  Mg|W 
on  this  subject  appeared  in  the  first  miinWK" 
The  New  Jtevieio,  Political^  Phiiosophieed,  m 
Litermy  (8vo,  DubHn,  May  1863),  whiA  *• 
author  states  to  be  "  an  impartial  sommafj  d  ■• 
various  arguments  employed  in  the  veiy  nniajj 
ous  pamphlets,  letters,  speeches,  law  report^  Mi  ; 
works  of  authority  (on  the  subject)  wlddh^ 
have  consulted."  H-  J.  FkhhH^ 

0,  llavelock  Square,  East,  Dublin. 


POKMS  BY  MARY  (iUEEX  OF  SCOTS. 
(4"'  S.  ix.  95.) 

Though  Queen  Mary  is  reported  to  have  writtt" 
versos  in  both  Latin  and  the  modem  languAgB^ 
very  few  specimens  of  her  poetry  are  eztaat^  * 
believe  my  list  to  be  complete  when  I  "^^"^ 
the  lines  on  the  death  of  Francis  IL,  ppesenred  V  . 
Brantonie ;  the  sonnet  to  Elizabeth  in  the  Cott^ 
Library ;  a  French  sonnet  to  her  son  Prince  Jmf^ 
in  the  State  Paper  Office ;  her  Meditations  lof^ 
gested  by  a  devotional  work  of  the  Kahop  ^ 
Hoss;  and  the  verses  supposed  to  hare  M^ 
written  by  the  queen  to  tlie  Earl  of  Botliw^ 
previous  to  her  marriage  with  that  nobletUAn.  ^^ 

The  latter  composition  is  orobaDlj  a  foiga^: 
It  has  been  attributed  to  Buchanan,  who  is 
to  have  composed  it  with  the  intention  of  af 
ing  further  corroboration  to  Maxy's  sappoaed 
ters.    Hume  and  Robertson,  <m  die  oontni/y 
of  opinion  that  it  is   the  work  of  the 
The  opening  lines  will  §^Te  an  idea  of  the 
ter  of  the  poem :  — 


NOTES  AND  QUBKIES. 


165 


;  refuse  pnina 
afflictloQ  ? 


rpa.  du  cceat 

filiannenT,  en 

«  de  pareiitz,  ni  piTC 


IS  ponrluy  aa'inonde  renoncer, 
IX  monrir  pour  luy  nvaocer,"  &c. 
)re  recently  discovered  of  Mary's  fffusiona 
entitled  — 
ilions  taite  par  la  Enyne  dT-ci>«,  Dovairierc 

isr  rETCsquc  de  Rn»9c." 

etter  writfen  to  Bisliiip  l^sley,  dated 
flield  Custle,  Aujiust,  l^'iTJ,  and  signed, 
itin  trangiation  by  wliii.'li  it  is  known  to 
.  amidssimft  Domina  Miiris  11.,"  slie  ac- 
:e9  having  received  his  book  of  Meditn- 
L  says  that  she  uends  him  some  verses 
1  by  the  perusnl  iif  hi>  work,  which  had 
great  coiisolatioii  tti  )i'rr  alllicted  mind. 
1 1574,  the  bialinp  piibliithud  this  volume 
ediCAtion  to  his  roynl  jutron,  he  also 
a  copy  of  tlie  poem,  tufretlier  with  a 
nidation  i  which  .\dani  Blackwood,  the 
•rofessot  of  Law  iu  the  Univereity  of 
afterwards  approprjntiid  and  published 
ected  edition  of  his  own  works.  The 
Inction,  under  the  title  of  "  Meditations 
instance  et  Vanili?  du  Monde,  composes 
ue  serenissme  Royne  d'Escosse,"  ia  con- 
a  rsje  volumi.'  eutitled  Lettrfa  et  Traitez 
t,  by  "  Pavid  Home  en  Dumbat,"  printed 
■ac,'  1G13.  It  may  now  be  read  io  the 
■e  Miscellany,  having  been  lost  sight  of 
year  1827,  when  the  club  reprinted  it  in 
t  form.    It  commences :  — 


vient  oster  de  ItiDt  dbnnii  I'enuie, 
menUnt  il  mes  yeax  vivemenC, 
liieii  en  mil  na  sauilaiii  ctiangement, 
diitiller  mu  fait  Iiirs  9ut  la  face 
Iriste  Immeur,  qiii  tout  plaisir  effflct,"  etc. 
■  Lesley's  work  also  contains  a  sonnet  by 
Ter  since  republished  except  in  the  Mis- 
f  the  Bannatyne  Club.    It  opens  with — 

Ire  de  Dieu  par  Ic  sang  ne  s'appaise 
Wfs,  ny  bciDC*,  espandu  aur  1  autel, 

'Jw  enceos,  ou  Sacrifice  lel. 
Stnuenun  nc  re^oit  aucun  aise.'' 

>inctioa  of  tbi.-i  queen,  which  ia  entirely 
is  book  of  French  verses,  on  the  "  Insti- 
f  •  Prince,"  alluded  to  in  Bishop  Mon- 
J^aca  to  the  works  of  King  Jajnea  I.  A 
''fir,_  Saodeison,  mentions  having  seen 
me  in  1650;  and  it  i£  probablT  the  same 


work  as  that  enuinerate<.l  in  the  catalogue  of 
boolis  presented  to  the  College  of  Edinburgh  in 
102.J  by  Drummond  of  Hawthomden  under  the 
title  0^  Marie  Quetne  i-f  Scofi:  Titraatieha  ou 
Qaatraiiis  d  SoH_fih.  Julias  Shaiuca^. 

20,  Palace  Gardens  U'lrace,  W. 

I  do  nut  iraapne  thut  Queen  Mary  was  anything 
of  a  poetess.  The  love  sonnets  which  were  found 
with  the  famous  casket  letters,  and  which,  I  be- 
lieve, were  undoubtedly  written  by  her,  overflow- 
ing as  they  do  with  the  burning  passion  she  feb 
for  Buthwell,  taken  as  literary  compositions,  must 
Ih-  pronounced  tame  and  altogQthet  destitute  of 
poetic  fire.  To  my  thinking  there  is  more  poetry 
in  the  letters  themselves  than  in  these  sonnets. 

The  French  chronicler  Brantome  wrote  favour- 
ably of  Miiry's  poetry ;  but,  considering  his  inti- 
mate connection  with  her  maternal  relatives,  the 
Guides,  and  those  by  maniace,  Charles  IX.  and 
Henry  111.  of  France,  his  opinion  can  hatdly  be 
reckoned  an  unbiassed  one.  Brantome  nves  the 
stanzEia  of  an  elegy  ninde  by  Mary  on  uie  death 
of  hiir  husband  Francis  II.,  which  are  quoted  by 
Dr.  Hugh  Campbell  in  his  Love  Letfert  of  Mary 
Qtieen  of  Scoh,  p.  (IS.  These  verses  appear  to  me 
to  possess  no  merit  whatever,  I  transcribe  the 
concluding  one  as  a  specimen  jjf  the  others:  — 


A  si  triste  cmnpluinte 
Dont  aem  Is  refrin. 


Waterloo  Lodge,  Reading. 


H.  A .  KraniBDT. 


Four  Curt.cRES  ai  a  Birtii  (4""  S.  is.  127._) — 
I  am  enabled,  throupli  the  courtesy  ot  a  medical 
gentleman  now  residing  at  Bromsgrove,  to  give 
F.  C.  H.  an  accurate  if  brief  account  of  this 
multiparoua  birth,  which  did  take  place,  and  on 
March  '2S,  1810.  The  children  were  named  Maria, 
MaiT,  Suah,  and  Eliza.  Maria  died  of  "white 
swelling  of  the  elbow''  when  seventeen  yeam  of 
age.  Up  to  that  time  they  had  enjoyed  very  good 
health.  Thcv  were  all  very  much  alike,  good- 
looking,  inclined  to  be  stout,  and  tbev  were  all 
of  the  same  height,  about  5  ft.  4  in.  Mary  (mar- 
ried) had  two  children  (not  at  one  birth),  a  son 
and  daughter,  and  died  of  fever  when  thirty-two 
years  of  age,  Eliza  had  a  fall  down  stairs,  and 
an  abscess  formed  in  her  side,  from  which  she 
died  about  a  year  ago.  Sarah  is  married;  she  is 
in  good  health,  and  has  had  one  sou.  Charles 
(;ny  informant's  iuformant),  a  brother,  and  two 
other  children,  were  bom  (at  single  births)  pT»- 
vious  to  the  four  at  one  birth ;  and  there  were 
two  single  births  after,  a  boy  and  a  girl.  Ths 
father  died  from  injury  to  his  leg  at  seventy  yean 


186 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4»k  S.  IX.  Fkb.  24, 72. 


of  age.     The  mother  died  of  old  age,  at  eight}-- 
three.     The  family  name  is  Richai-dson. 

Fred.  Kulk. 
Ashford. 

The  Meeting  of  the  Three  Choirs  (4"*  S. 
ix.  136.) — I  am  glad  to  see  the  sentence  from  the 
flev.  P.  Senhouse's  music-sermon  at  01».'i 'tester, 
1728,  reproduced  and  preserved  in  yiur  imperish- 
able journal.  I  beg  leave,  however,  to  remiml 
your  learned  correspondent,  Dr.  Rimbatjlt,  that  so 
long  ago  as  1859 1  directed  attention  to  this  passage, 
and  to  the  testimony  which  it  contained  of  the 
true  origin  of  th;it  long-lived  institution,  and  6i 
the  name  of  the  efHcient  founder  of  it :  and  that 
these  were  imknown  to  the  Rev.  D.  Lysons  when 
he  published  his  HiMory  of  thv  Mwting  of  the 
Three  CVioirs  of  Gloucester ^  Worcester y  and  Here- 
ford, \SV2,S\o, 

I  was  so  happy  as  to  do  this  in  the  very  words 
now  used  by  your  learned  correspondent,  with 
one  most  important  difference,  that  he  has  much 
increased  their  force  by  giving  his  own  eminent 
name  instead  of  that  of         Thomas  Kkrslake. 

Bristol. 

Roman  Villa  at  NoRTHLEHiH  (4'**  S.  viii.  54y ; 
ix.  128.) — I  have  to  thank  II.  P.  for  calling  my 
attention  to  Ilakewill's  description  of  this  villa, 
with  which,  however,  I  was  tlioroughly  well  ac- 
quainted before.  The  account  which  appeared  in 
"  N.  &  Q."  for  December  .SO  was  sli^rhtly  condensod 
from  an  account  which  had  appv^ared  elsewhere, 
and  in  which  his  name  was  propt^rly  mentioned  as 
the  original  discoverer  of  the  romains  in  question. 
Since  then,  I  have  been  favoured  by  Mr.  Ileniy 
Hakewill,  his  son,  with  all  the  original  drawings, 
&c.,  which  his  father  had  made  at  the  time,  and 
which  are  extremely  valuable  and  useful  to  me. 

J.  P.  E. 

Merton  College,  Oxford. 

The  Loss  of  the  "  IIalsewell  "  (4***  S.  ix. 
04.) — A  detailed  narrative  will  b«^  found  under 
the  head  of  "  Old  Stories  Re-told  "  in  No.  415  of 
All  the  Year  Round  for  April  (\,  1 S07.  In  a  bound 
copy  the  reference  would  be  vol.  xvii.  p.  .*547. 

C.  W.  M. 

Scales  and  Weights  (4»»'  S.  viii.  .372,  402 ; 
ix.  8.3.) — The  box  in  possession  of  Mk.  ('hattock 
is  fairly  explained,  as  far  as  it  goes,  to  have  been 
intended  to  teat  the  weight  of  guineas  and  half- 
guineas.  But  the  contents  of  my  box  are  more 
ample,  as  will  be  seen  by  reference  to  my  former 
communication.  I  have  just  been  trying  my 
weights  with  a  guinea  and  a  seven  shilling  piece, 
which  1  keep  as  curiosities ;  and  I  find  that  the 
largest  of  my  four  weights,  with  the  head  of 
George  III.  on  one  side,  and  Dwts.  and  Grs.  on 
the  other,  is  marked  5  dwts.  8  grs.,  and  just 
balances  a  spade  guinea.  Unfortunately  I  do  not 
possess  a  half  guinea;  but  I  presume  that  the 


weight  marked  2  dwts.  10  grs.  would  be  the 
weight  of  one.  I  tried  the  smallest  of  the  four, 
marked  2  dwts.  14  grs.,  and  found  it  just  balanced 
the  .seven  shilling  piece,  mine  havin-r  been  coined 
in  1803.  I  have  no  way  of  acci'uating for  the 
fourth  weight,  which  is  marked  6  dwts.  6  gn., 
unless  by  8uppo<»ing  that  later  coined  guineas 
were  only  of  that  weight. 

There  can  be  no  doubt  that  Mr.  Chattoci'p 
weights,  and  the  four  of  mine  specified,  were  for 
weighing  the  gold  coin;  but  my  box  containi 
e1ev-m  i.  ire  weights,  all  marked  with  sums  in 
shillings  and  pence,  and  ranging  from  4«.  Oct  up  to 
•3/.  12^.  The  use  of  these,  I  have  been  told,  vtt 
for  goldsmiths  to  ascertain  at  once  the  value  of 
any  piece  of  gulcL ;  but  I  should  be  glad  of  a  mon 
detailed  explanation.  F.  C.  H. 

Ashen  Faggot  (4***  S.  viii.  ^47:  ix.  87.)— Aak 
is  here  asserted  to  be  the  only  wood  that  banu 
w«ll  when  green;  but  laurel  wood  will  Iw* 
equallv  well  when  fresh  cut  and  irreen. 

F.C.E 

Sandal  Wood  (4^  S.  ix.  i>5.)— Lord  Hlea- 
bomugh^s  celebrated  proclamation  about  thegi^- 
of  Somnath.  ^• 

" If  I  HAD  A  Donkey,'  etc.  (4**" S.  ix. 57).— 
1.  The  drawing-room  version  which  I  cameacw* 
some  years  ago  is  as  follows :  — 

"  If  I  had  an  animal  averse  to  sfreed. 
Do  you  think  I'd  cliastisc  him  ?    No,  indeed! 
But  I'd  give  him  some  oats,  aud  ^!aJ  *  Proceed, 

Goon,  Edward!*" 

Is  this  the  version  for  which  Mr.  Ellacombbii1»' 

{}.  P.  GraitihaI- 

2.  The  drawing-room  version  of  "If  I  lu^* 
1  )()nkey  "  first  appeared  in  Pttnch  for  Feb.  ih 
1844  (vol.  vi.  p.  85),  under  the  headioff  of  "A- 
Polished  Poem."  A  similar  version  of  "G3ai 
Seroggins  ''  was  given  in  the  number  for  April" 
following  (p.  100.)  CT.Bi 

The  Devil's  Nutting  Dav  (4*'*  S.  ix.57.)— 
I  was  talking  with  a  very  old  man  in  Bun  8^ 
Edmunds,  Suffolk,  some  years  ago,  who  told  ■• 
that  when  he  used  to  go  nutting  he  never  W  JJ 
on  Holy  Cross  Day  (Sept.  14),  for  fear  he  dMW* 
m<;et  the  devil.  M.  H. 

Sleaford. 

From  fifty  to  a  hundred  years  ago  there  vH  • 
superstitious  avoidance  of  September  14  amflif 
the  juvenile  ^'  nutters'*  of  Kent.  A  capital  ftflff 
in  reference  to  this  is  told  still  in  Maidatone  tf* 
its  neighbourhood.  A  regiment  quartered  th0*; 
had  in  its  band  an  immense  negro  arummer.  Itt; 
worthy  happened  to  take  a  ramble  into  the  luj^^ 
bouring  woods  on  September  14,  and  stuiiiH* ' 
over  a  large  bag  of  nuts,  which  had  been  ma^ 
at  the  foot  of  a  tree.  Sambo,  guesang  tliat  it  < 
the  hoard  of  some  trespaaeer,  diretted  UmffK^ 


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167 


his  (Tiinnents,  and  lighting  a  slmrt  pipe  wliicli  li. 
bad  with  liim,  gat  down  on  tbc  snck  of  nuts  with 
bis  elbows  on  his  knees,  and  enjoyed  bis  tobacco. 
On  the  "free  nutters"  coming  to  tbe  tret!  for 
their  spoil,  the  sable  possessor  trealed  them  to  n 
wild  howl — llnro-u-ra-Ka-riill — and  the  result 
may  be  imagined,  his  sable  majesty  being  left  in 
iiosE«ssion,  and  the  nutters  scampering  home  aa 
taat  as  their  legs  would  carry  them,  W.  D. 

Canlcrhtin-. 

-GtrlTA  C.IVAT  LAPIDEM,"  ETC.  (4'"  S.  il.82.)— 

This  proverb  was  known'  long  before  the  time  of 
Galen.  It  is  quoted  as  a  common  saying  even  by 
Bion,  who  flourished  about  k.c.  280.  In  big 
Atfifofa  he  says,  — 

'V.K  0Bfuv^i  paSijicrfO!,  Skui  >.i-,iis,  (Itlir  loitrm, 

Xa  \i0oi  h  Iwyfilv  KO-kalyiTai. 

EBitrSD  Tbw,  M.A. 


■'  Gutta  cavat  lapldem,  non  vi,  $c<l  fxpe  cadendo," — 

iilo  be  found  in  Ovid,  .E.r  Pout.,  iv.  x.  line  5:  -^ 

■      "  GnttH  cavat  lapidem ;  conaumitur  nnnulua  uau ; 

Kt  terilur  preaaa  vomer  adnncus  humo." 

It  b  in  my  memory,  but  very  faintly,  that  some 

Udent  scholar,  on  lecturing  his  boys,  was  inter- 

npted  at  lapidem  by  a  clever  urchin,  who  com- 

^et«d  the  verse  without  multiplying  bis  instances, 

The  epistles  Kr  Panto  are,  I  hear,  coming  into 

ittding  again  at  our  universities.  Bohn  gives  tbe 

OtUion,  but  without  close  reference.    The  Gradui 

''  Punuuauni  of  the  old  Jesuit  Fathers  contains 

Inverse  inquired  for  by  Dr.  Rauase,  simply  ns 

tt  example  without  reference.    It  was,  no  doubt, 

*wdi(evBl  proverb.  Hain  I'ribwell. 


liinr  Gbixell  Batli.ie  (4"^  S,  viii.  461 ;  is.  84.) 
Along  and  interesting  ncuount  of  this  excellent 

■  Wj  may  be  found  at  pp.  546-fi87  of  The  Ladies  of 
^  Vovmanl,   by   Kev.   James   .Anderson,    1851, 

■  ftriifl  and  Son.  It  appears  to  bo  taken  from 
fcbook  mentioned  by  T.  G.  S,,  with  additions 
n«D  various  sources.  Probably  the  earliest  ac- 
•Mat  of  her  is  that  given  in  Wodrow's  Huiory  of 
^SKffiratgt  of  the  Church  of  Scotland,  iv.  605- 
«l  I83I.'  See  al.w  Iturke's  AnecdiiUs  of  the 
'Wdinuy,  i.  it97  n.,  and  .Jesse,  Court  of  England, 
1888-1760,  ii.  .300.  "  S.  M.  8. 

'MtThottohts  are  racked"  (4*  S.  ii.57.)— 
^'qaotation  I  about  five  years  ago  met  with  in 
^Mt  twelve  or  sixteen  very  powerful  decasyl- 
■■^venee,  sent  to  me  in  a  tract  upon  "Midnight 


y>t  WodrVK  Carrrmoiulence,  ii.  GOG-608,  inoed  ia 

'  by  Uie  Wodrow  Sociefv,  Edinborgh,   gives   Mr. 

'^t  ktUi  to  the  husband  of  tbis  ladf.  sent  with  the 

«t  itas  Ustory  which  related  to  b<r  father,    n'e 

— •—  •-" —  '-  •»  ba  iccredited  by  tbe  UarlXj. 


Meetings,  ur  the  Hedemption  of  llie  Fallen."  Aa 
a  heUiio  libroivm  I,  like  other  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q.," 
read  much  that  comes  in  my  way,  and  I  was  par- 
ticularly struck  with  the  power  and  harmony  of 
the  lines.  They  purported  to  be  the  epitaph  of  a 
poor  girl  dying  of  that  which  strong-minded 
women  are  just  now  too  loudly  talking  about,* 
contagious  disease,  and  reflecting  in  her  last  mo- 
ments upon  her  sin  and  misery.  I  did  not  for  an 
instant  fcelieve  them  to  be  genuine ;  and  read 
them  out,  with  the  remark  to  a  gentleman  by  mv 
aide  that  the  pen  employed  in  that  tract  was  a 
strong  one.  But  though  I  read,  I  am  wicked 
enough  to  own  Idonotpreserve  tracts,  and  I  regret 
very;  much  that  I  did  not  copy  the  lines  to  be  of 
service  to  your  querist.  They  so  strongly  re- 
minded me  of  Churchill,  both  in  power  and  in 
ring,  that  I  instinctively  turned  to  the  Conferenea 
by  that  poet,  where,  at  lines  219-230, 1  expected 
to  find  the  original :  — 
"  Loolt  back  I  a  thought  which  Ixirders  on  despair. 

And  so  on,  until  — 

"  The  dread  haadwritin;^  on  the  wall 
■emorse  awake  at  reason's  call ; 
Ami  u  AK  all  points,  bids  scorn  ion -ven^anoe  pass, 
And  to  the  mind  holds  up  reflection'.*  glass— 
The  mind  which,  starting,  heaves  the  heartfelt  groan, 
Ard  bates  the  form  she  knows  to  be  her  own." 
Neither,  however,  in  Churchill's  Author  nor  in 
the  Conference  is  the  line  in  quention ;  bnt  poi- 
haps  some  "  omnivorous"  reader  will  rescue  from 
the  tract  I  allude  to  the  powerful  line  cited. 

IlAlS  Fbi  SWELL. 

Watch  Papers  (4"" S.  viii.  4.51,  S-W;  is.  83.)— 
\.  E.  will  find  the  lines  beginninj.' ''  Ouward,  per- 
lietiially  moving,"  correctly  quoted  by  me  (3"  8, 
li.  451),  Of  course  "momentary  should  be 
■'  monitory,"  I  strongly  recommend  the  General 
Index  to  "  N.  &  Q."  for  constant  use. 

U.  0— N. 

Mai7theii(4"'  S.  ii.  95.)— This  word  is  common 
throughout  die  Eastern  Coimties — "Mauther" 
when  speaking  of,  "  Maur "  when  speaking  to, 
the  girl^and  only  among  the  unlearned  classes 
who  have  preserved  so  much  of  the  A.-S.  hm- 
;vuage  which  their  more  educated  betters  have 
I'ither  lost  or  discarded  as  vulgar.  "  Here,  maur, 
take  yeow  this  here  gotch,  an'  goo  an  buv  a 
punner  o'  yisL"  Or,  "  Tell  that  there  mauthet 
to  goo,"  &e.  The  derivation  is  pretty  fully  di«- 
cuBsed  in  Hall's  Dialect  and  iVotwiciaffmu  of 
Eatt  Anglia,  at  pp.  600-1  of  bis  *'  Chapters  on  the 
I'^t  Anglian  Coast."  It  may  be  added  that 
BoBworth  {Con^.  A.-S.  Did.'},  ^vea  "  Meawie, 
man.  maiden,  damiuil." 


a  that  .  .  .  nobh 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«>  S.  IX.  Feb 


'  .  .  .  were  ciilled  scald-uuters,  q.  d.  singing  inauthers 
*  ...  He  coniplaius  tbnt  tho  old  word  nuter  had  been 
corrupted  to  m-'tlu'ry  and  so  contnuiuled  with  a  verv  dif- 
ferent word.  We  di^tiii^ui"?!!  llu-ra  vcrj'  eliectually  by 
pronunciation,  and,  what  is  mon.',  we  actually  come  vvry 
near  to  thr  original  word  in  the  abbreviated  form  we  use 
in  addressing  a  mauthcr.  We  commonly  call  her  iiiauV, 
Dan.  mnevy  Bolg.  mudde^  iiinupta  puflla." — Forby's 
Vocabulary  of  East  AtujUa,  vol.  ii.  p.  211.  Lond.  18.')0.* 

Joseph  Rix,  M.D. 
St.  Xeot's. 

[W.  T.  :M.  refers  CoicNrn.  to  1«  S.  ii.  217,  3oo,  411,  for 
Tuil  references  on  this  word.— Ei».] 

Taaffe  Family  (4»»»  S.  ix.  15,  102.)— In  the 
Memoirs  of  this  family,  to  which  J.  H.  M.  alludes, 
the  sourcu8  whence  Sir  W.  Betham  derived  his 
information  in  tabulating  the  pedigree  are  not  fully 
given.  I  might  at  once  have  adopted  your  corre- 
spondent's suggestion,  considering  that  1  have  only 
seen  a  copy  of  the  records  in  which  the  name 
"  Charles  '*  is  said  to  occur,  but  for  the  seeming 
diilicidties  of  identitication,  which  1  shall  now 
point  out,  as  J.  \\.  M.  may  liave  br^tter  oppor- 
tunities tljiiu  myself  of  consulthi:^  the  original 
records. 

1.  The  lands  of  Mansfield,  co.  Louth,  were 
granted  in  lease  for  ninetv-nine  years,  July  15, 
1001).  by  Theobald  Earl  of  Oarlingford,  to  "Charles 
Taalfe  and  his  wife,  the  Lady  Susanna.'' 

2.  In  connection  with  this  transaction  tho  lands 
of  Stephenstown  and  Ballyclare,  co.  Louth,  are 
subsequently  mentioned. 

3.  Charles  Taallc,  on  Nov.  14,  1083,  mortgaged 
the  lease  to  James  Tindall. 

4.  On  the  other  hand,  Christopher  TaaiTe,  hus- 
band of  Lady  Susanna  Plunket  (according  to  the 
Betham  pedigree),  was  attainted  in  1041 ;  and  is 
described  as  of  JHallybragim,  and  afterwards  of 
Bally negh'gli,  co.  Sligo. 

5.  But  the  widow  of  C-hristopher  Taallo,  at- 
tainted in  108i),  was  named  Sarah  Kerdilfe;  and 
on  marrying  secondly  Arthur  Donelly,  j?lie  claimed 
her  jointure,  as  relict  of  hor  former  hu^^band  Chris- 
topher Taaffe,  from  the  lands  of  Ballyclare  and 
Stephenstown.  This  jointure  she  sold  to  George 
Blythe,  from  whom  it  was  purchased  by  Nicholas, 
son  of  the  said  Christopher. 

0.  This  (^Christopher  had,  besides  Nicholas,  an- 
other son  named  Patrick ;  whereas,  according  to 
Sir  W.  H.nhani's  pedigree.  Christopher  and  tlio 
Lady  Su>anna  bad  only  one  son,  viz.  John  THalVe 
of  "Mand^.'villestown  in  I'riel,  et  Ballyneglagh  in  i 
Sligo.  .  .  r}-.))ta  ir,41."  ! 

in  the  transactions  relative  to  forfeited  estateSj  ' 
references  will  be  found  to  the  above,  vide  deeds  ' 
dated  31aY  20.  lOTo,  April  1  and  June  27,  1007,  \ 
andMay  10,  lOOy.  S.    ; 

"  With  IIelmkt  on  nis  Brow  "  (4*^  S.  ix,  15,  \ 
99.)  —  I  know  nothing  of  any  "Old  Woman  of  I 
Romford,*'  but  the  music  to  *'  With  Helmet  on 
his  JJrow  "  was  composed  by  Joseph  Mayseder,  ' 


the  once  popular  violinist  of  Vienna,  w! 
liilarimt  productions  were  frequently  pla^ 
great  gusto  by  the  late  X.  Mori,  greatest  oj 
solo  players.  On  p.  47  of  The  Harmouia 
it  is  called  **  May  seder's  popular  rond« 
favourite  air  of  '  Le  petit  Tambour.'  '*  T! 
were,  I  think,  by  G.  W.  Reeve. 

Chief  I 

I  am  obliged  to  Dr.  IIi^bault  for  his  c 
and  satisfactory  reply ;  but  I  would  ask 
question :  Is  the  air  retdly  French  ?  The 
to  me  to  be  something  peculiarly  Englii 
its  construction.  And  may  it  not  be  an  olc 
tune,  as  I  have  been  told,  composed  for 
gar  slang  song  called  **  The  Old  Woman 
ford"'?  The  English  song  is  much  ol< 
forty  years,  and  a  barrel  organ  may  ha^ 
duced  its  melody  into  France.  Many 
English  tunes  have  been  introduced  a'l 
the  oryues  dt-  Jiarharie.  I  have  witnesse< 
peasants  dancing  to  the  "  College  Hompi 
snap})ing  tli»;ir  lingers  and  beating  time 
''  (jirand  Conversation  under  the  Rose." 

Foreigners  are  very  fond  of  asserting 
have  no  nmsic ;  and  yet  I  find  that  th< 
posers  are  constantly  prigging  our  tunes, 
nessed  a  ballet  at  the  Pagliano  at  Floi 
which  the  *'  College  Hornpipe  "  was  int 
and  danced  by  En^ilish  sailors;  and  yet  t 
bill  stated  that  the  music  was  by  Fer 
composer  of  the  opera  <Df  Pipele,  1  shall  n 
that  ballet :  for,  in  one  of  the  scenes  whi< 
sented  the  bottom  of  the  sea,  some  red 
were  crawling  about !  However,  in  justi 
audience,  I  must  state  that  the  Italians 
heartily  at  such  a  ludicrous,  exhibition; 
a  second  representation,  the  fful&t  gave 
.>v//V«".  SxEruEX  J. 

The  author  of  the  words  of  this  sob 
well-known  writer  and  dramatist  J,  R. 
Esq.,  and  the  melody  is  adapted  by  G.  "V 
to  the  popular  air,  **  Je  suis  le  petit  Taml 

MoNTALT  Barons  (4»*»  S.  viii.  pamim 
One  last  word  on  this  subject.  I  have  jusl 
by  accident,  on  a  quotation  from  Stow  (h 
of  London^  I  presume,  though  that  is  noi 
which  I  beg  for  spao  to  record. 

It  appears  that  there  was,  perhaps  s 
])arish  in  the  city  of  London  called  i 
Mounthaw.     Speaking  of  it  Stow  writes 

♦'  On  the  west  side  of  oid  Fish  Stnset  Hill  is  l 
of  Hereford's  Inn  or  Lodging,  which  some  tim< 
to  the  Mounth antes  («>)  in  Norfolk.  Rad 
Maydeustone  bonglit  it  of  the  Moanthautes.  . 
adjoining  is  the  parish  church  of  St.  Mary 
Alto,  or  Mounthault  («fr),  a  very  small  chare 
the  first  to  be  a  chapel  to  the  said  house.*' 

Then  he  speaks  of  '^  Edward  Fox,  '' 
buried  in  St.  Marv  Mounthaw." 


4*  a  IX.  Feb.  24, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


169 


Here  we  have  the  connectiiig  link  which  in  my 
fbest  note  I  suggested  was  wanting — a  form  of  the 
ncBBie  signifying  High  Mount  or  Hill,  of  which  , 
De  Monte  Alto  was  merely  the  translation ;  and  , 
thus  we  have  Monhaut,  Mourithault,  Mounthaute,  • 
Mohaut,  Mouat,  and  Mowat,  hut  '*  Montalt "  no-  , 
where  discoverahle.  C.  E.  D.    i 


"  War,  Who  finds  the  partrid^  in  the  puttock't  nest 
Bat  may  imagine  how  the  bird  was  dead, 
Althoagh  the  kite  soar  with  un bloodied  beak  ? 
Even  so  su.spicious  is  this  tragedy. 
Q.  Mar,  Are  you  the  butcher,  Suffiilk  ?  where's  your 
knife  ? 
Is^Beau'fort  termed  a  kite  ?  where  are  his  talons  ?  ** 

2  Hen,  VI„  Act  III.  Sc.  2. 


"  Happy  the  Man  "  etc  (4***  S  ix  57  )— The  '      ^^®  words  "kite "  and  "buzzard"  were,  how- 
tnowlation  is  b/Dr.Maginn,  and 'will  he  found  1  ever,  often  used  indiscriminately. 


in  the  Autohio^aphy  of^Uliam  Jerdati,  iii.  96.        „  "^^  ^  Fisher. 

London :  Arthur  Hall,  Virtue,  &  Co.;  1863.  liarrow. 

C.  T.  B.  Change  of  Baptismal  Names  (4**"  S.  viii. 

The  Lord  BoauEKi  (4'*'  S.  ix.  74.) — Who  his  j  paMim ;  ix.  19,  100.) — in  France  the  change  of 

lotdship  was  is  more  than  I  can  answer,  but  I  >  oaptismal  names  is  not  so  nncommon  as  we  might 

presume  that  he  was  a  relative  of  Peter  Bokanki,  I  suppose.    P.  A.  L.  has  given  an  instance  of  this, 

I  would  add  two  that  are  well  known.  "Paul" 
Delaroche  was  not  baptized  Paul,  hut  Ilippolyte ; 
Achille  de  St.  Amaud,  the  Crimean  French  mar- 
shal, was  not  hnptized  Achille.  But  that  such 
changes  of  baptismal  names  were  made  in  Eng- 
land during  the  seventeenth  cf^ntury  does  not  as 
yet  seem  to  be  proved.  "NVith  respect  to  the  asser- 


of  whom  we  used  to  say—  "  Like  Peter  Bokanki, 
who  buttoned  his  coat  behind  to  keep  his  belly 
Wirm."  At  the  Skipton  Grammar  School,  when 
a  acholar  complained  of  cold  weather,  we  always 
•dvised  him  to  follow  the  example  of  "Peter 
Bokanki,  who,"  &c.  I  have  heard  tne  same  saying 
tt  Durham. 

The  above  is  the  only  reply  that  I  can  give  to 
H.  W.  I).,  in  whose  phraseology  I  conclude  my 
lots :  J*  The  spelling  may  be  incorrect,  but  1  have  I . 
given  it  as  pronoimced."         Stephen  Jackson. 


PUTTOCK  (4'»"  S.  ix.  119.)— That  the  putt<>ck 
^  synonvmous  with  the  Mte  is  proved  by  the 
"Dowmg  stanza  from  the  Faerie  Queenc  (book  v. 
eiato5): — 

I  IJke  as  a  puttocke  having  spyde  in  siglit 
I^WnUe  faulcon  sitting  on  a'hill, 
Jhose  other  wing,  now  made  unmeete  for  flight, 
**«8  lately  broken  by  some  fortune  ill  ; 
JJe  foolish  kyte,  led  with  licentious  will, 
Jjtli  beat  upon  the  gentle  bird  in  vaine, 
Wrth  many  idle  stoups  her  troubling  btill : 
^^  80  did  Radigund  with  bootlesse  paine 
*oiioy  this  noble  knight,  and  sorely  him  con.straiuo." 

^  Halliweirq  Dictionary j  sub  voce,  is  the  fol- 
**in;;  extract  from  Marriage  of  Witt  and  Wis- 
Ai«,lo70:-- 

"  I  am  a  greate  travelir. 

I  lite  on  the  dunghill  like  a  puttoek  ! 
Xay,  take  me  with  a  lye, 
And  cut  out  the  brane  of  my  buttock." 

Both  the  kite  and  the  buzzard  were  rockouod 
Jtog  the  i;^uoble  birds  of  prey.  From  the  con- 
finnation  oi  their  ^vings  rapid*^  flight  is  rendered 
*p086ible,  and  almost  every  bird,  when  in  sound 
.  ^^'^"y  could  easily  escape  from  their  pursuit. 
***»»  they  chiefly  live  on  accidental  cnrnage,  and 
•*'  Specially  pitiless  with  wounded  birds,  no 
••^tet  of  what  species.  On  the  confines  of  Ex- 
**»the  kite  is  still  the  terror  of  poultry-keepers, 
r,   ^  J.  Charles  Cox. 

«*»hrood,  Belper. 

.■^tt«*  w«8  certainly  used  for  the  kite  by 


tion  in  Macfarlane's  History  of  iLnyland  (jii\,  197), 
referred  to  by  Mr.  Buckton  (•i^'^  S.  viii.  381),  we 
know  that  the  names  there  cited  as  fictitious,  and 
as  the  invention  of  one  clergyman,  were  nothing 
of  the  kind.  They  were  all  real  names  and  belong 
to  the  first  twenty  years  of  the  seventeenth  cen- 
tury.     **  Accepted  "  was  the  name  of  Archbishop 
Frewen,  who  must  have  been  bom  early  in  that 
century;  '^Redeemed"  is  found  as  a  Uhristian 
name  in  the  parish  register  of  Chiddingly,  Sussex; 
'*  Faint-not "  is  a  name  in  the  same  register,  and 
likewise  in  the  registers  of  Maresfiela,  Sussex. 
**  Makepeace  *'  has  survived  unto  our  own  times, 
having  been  borne  by  Thackeray  fis  one  of  his 
Christian  names. 

In  the  parish  accounts  of  Miltnn-next-Sitting- 
boume  the  names  "Sylence"  and  *'  Repentance" 
occur.  Ill  1053  "  Sylence  Coale  "  was  paid  ten 
shilliiigd  "for  o  dales  work  by  his  man  and  a 
labourer  at  the  markett-bouse,*'  and  in  1091  occurs 
the  entry  '^Item,  paid  Repentance  Stonehouse 
for  a  hedgehogg  00.  00.  02." 

In  the  Sittingboume  register  we  find  the  burial 
of  '•  Increased ''  Collins.  His  tombstone  states  that 
he  was  a  ne^ir  relative  of  Archbishop  Parker,  and 
that  he  died  in  1665,  aged  sixty- two.  Tlie  writer 
of  his  ppita|-ii  was  puzzled  as  to  how  to  render  in 
Latin  this  name  "  Increased,'*  so  he  got  over  the 
difficulty  b}'  placing  upon  the  stone  the  initial 
only. 

In  the  registers  of  Borden,  Kent,  I  find  the 
Christian  names  '*  Godly "  and  "  Attained.'' 
Godly  Philpott,  widow,  was  buried  on  Oct.  20, 
1019 ;  and  a  son  of  Thomas  and  Susannah  Ware 
was  baptized  Attained  on  May  22, 1726.  In  the 
same  register  occur  the  curious  femftle  names 
** Petronella,"  1598 ;  "Nam,"  1660;  "Nothamy,"' 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4"'S.1I.Pkb.M,'7J. 


1002;  "Gilliftn,''  ICIG;  "  Hephaibah,"  1778; 
"  Bathsheba,"  1788 ;  "  Levia,"  itSO.wid  "  Sedu- 
lia,"  1702.  W.  A.  S.  R. 

Snatches  of  Old  ToNEa  f4'»  S.  viii.  3.W,  457 ; 
ix.  62.)— E.  L.  8.  andH.  B.Hydb,Juji.,  areverv 
much  inistdken  if  they  auppoBo  that  the  Irish 
aoQfc  cif  "Oaatle  Hyde  has  only  existed  in  MS.  . 
uutil  Mb.  H.  B.  Hyde,  Jdh.,  printed  a  Tersiou  in  < 
"N.  &  Q."  It  has  long  been  a  comraou  street  ' 
Bong  in  all  parts  of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland; 
and  1  have  a  slip  copy  that  TCaa  given  to  me  by 
Crofton  Croker.  It  is  at  least  forty  years  old.  | 
I  have  heard  it  Bung  in  the  Durham  market-place 
over  and  over  again ;  and  I  know  that  it  has  long 
beenastandardballadoftheSevenUials.  Somuch 
for  this  rnre  ballad.  With  respect  to  the  motto 
appended  to  Mb.  Hide's  version  in  "  N.  &  Q.,"  I 
will  take  this  opportunity  of  saying'  that  1  hove 
always  considered  wa  should  read  runes  instead 
of  "  tunes."  Ophelia  (a  Dane)  ciianted  portions 
of  old  ballads,  which  in  Scandinavia  would  b^ 
old  rMNBs.  "Tunes"  aeema  to  me  a  printer's 
erratum.  Siefdes  Jacssok. 

Miss  Ward  (4-''  S.  ii.  00.)— /Uma  Jane  Ward, 
the  author  of  The  Biirk-d  Bride  and  oth-r  Focim, 
and  also  the  translator  of  Memorie  Accrhe  ed 
Oii'iraU,  from  the  Italian  of  the  Marcheso  Dome- 
nico  Nicolai,  died  at  Southampton  April  1S4G. 
H.W. 

UttEsa's  "  'Prentict;  IIan'  "  (4'"  S.  ii.  01.)- In 
tlie  Decameron,  the  sixth  tale  of  the  sixth  day  w 
entitled  — 

"  Praavn  Micbde  Scalza  a  cuTti  [^iovani  come  i  Baroiid 
wno  1  pill  gentUi  uoiiiini  del  mundu  i 


The  assertion  ia  made  — 

"  i  Raionci  furnn  Talti  dn  Dumeneildio  al  tempo  d 


KtiiTe." 

And  the  well-known  uncomeliuess  of  the  Baronci, 
stated  to  be  "ai  come  sogliuno  esscre  i  viai  cho 
fanno  da  prima  i  fauciulli  chc  apparano  a  disc- 
},'niTe,"i8  allowed  in  proof.  Ia  uot  a  translation  of 
Slime  of  the  tales  more  likely  to  have  fallen  into 
Burns's  hand  than  the  Tf'hirligigf  Did  not  Mar- 
tinelli's  edition,  published  in  London  in  17Gti, 
piv  e  some  impulse  to  the  spread  of  the  knowledge 
of  the  Decairieron  that  may  have  extended  to 
AyrahireP  C. 

Ohristuas  M*QiaTR.tTE  in  the  AcADEarcAi, 
Saturnalia  (4*  8.  ii.  126.)— l^m  a  work  en- 
titled CoUege  Life  in  the  Time  of  Jamea  I.,  ai 
UhtdraUdhya  Iharij  of  Sir  Sijmomh  D'Jiwes,  1851, 
it  appears  that  the  Christmas  entertainments  at 
St.  John's  College,  Cambridge,  were  under  the 
superintenaence  of  an  official  personage  whose 
authority  extended  over  the  whole  festivity  of 


twelve  days;  and  also  that,  down  to  the  puiiwiiil 
time,  one  of  the  fellows  of  that  collem  is  usudlf 
elected  to  preside  over  the  Christmas  nM^taUlM 
in  the  Combination  room.  It  is  alao  snggeitod 
that  we  niav  recognise  in  this  officer  tha''oa<W- 
important  Master  of  the  Rerela— the  Abbot  <r 
Lord  of  Misrule."  As  a  clasjiical  appellation  Dt, 
Dee's  would  uot  be  inappropriate.  0.  C. 

Beer-Jdo  Insceiptions  (4**  8.  Yiii  paaimc 
ix.  20.)— Lately  I  came  across  a  pair  of  jnga  witt 
the  following  "toast"  inscribed  on  each:  — 

"  ILere'H  to  tbe  wind  that  blows. 
And  the  Mhip  lh>I  pmt. 

Anil  the  boy  that  feara  no  dinger, 
A  ship  in  full  sail, 

■     -       -         t  f.«l  gde,  _^ 

Tedou. 

STF.BNHOLD  AND  HoPKiNa  (4"'  8.  viii.  373, 4fllj 
ix.  bS.) — It  would  seem  &om  the  communicitilli 
of  G.  W.  N.  03  if  the  earliest  edition  of  tbaOU 
Version  of  the  Psalms,  which  assi^B  the  aathcr- 
ship  of  the  "  Old  Hundredth  "  to  Hopkbia,  hM  ' 
diite  1011.  Such,  however,  is  not  the  caaa,  mI 
noasesa  a  copy  dated  1587  ("London:  Printed  IT  i 
II.  Denham,  for  the  As^gnes  of  Richard  Dtjjr. 
in  which  tbe  initials  nretixed  to  that  palm  m 
■'J.  H."  XH.L, 

Miss  EdoewoRth  (4'*  S,  viii.  461, 667;  ix.lDL) 
See  variousreferenceato  Mr.  and  Mies  Maria  EdgH 
worth,  &c.,  in  the  Ltadbeater  Papert.  Alto,  ■"" 
the  Index  to  Lockbart'p  Life  af  Sir  WaUa-  &■ 
The  At/«.-nmum,  Jan.  18, 1862,  p.  86,  givM  »■ 
particulars  of  "  tbe  old  Mansion  Tempo,  Oh  Ai 
inanagh,"  evidently  tho  scene  of  CatUa  JtadmA 
which  about  tliat  time  was  taken  down  ud  n* 

built  a]L&; 

Clare's  Remains  (4**  S.  ix.  93.)— It  is  to  1 
presumed  there  is  good  authority  for  belian 
that  Clare  did  really  bear  hie  father  and  motl 
sing  the  bnllads  which  he  "wrote  down,"  ■ 
which  Mr.  Cherry  purposes  to  print.  But  ii< 
interesting  editor  aware  that  tue  NorthamptM 
ahire  poet  was  a  fabricator  of  qiMm-M  poo&T 
On  this  subject  aide  letters  &om  him  on  pp>l 
and  175,  vol.  iv.  of  Memoirs  of  Jam**  dfontoMW] 

"  0  where  have  fe  been,  Lord  H«"^^l,  mj  smT' 
is  the  first  line  of  the  ballad  of  "  Lord  _  _ 
printed  in  The  Legendary  SaOad*  o/aMfarfi 


"  Loi-d  Randall "  is  well  known,  and  I 
leaveitout.  With  the  others  I  am  not  acqii 
Though  we  can  no  more  form  hi  opuiooof  iV 
or  ballad  by  a  "  first  line "  thu  ws  vs  rf- 
house  by  the  exhibition  of  a  brick  (mA  HimA 
there  is  something  that  amattm  of  good  b 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


171 


POTENT  Leader's  Voice  "' ;  "  This 
:iji  "  (4'"  S.  ii.  y2.)— The  former 

?'  William  Hamilton  of  Bangour. 
torfg,  vol.  XT.  p.  020.  The  latter  ia 
rraves.  See  his  Euphro$yne:  or, 
<  the  Road  of  Life,  1783,  vol.  i. 
H.  P.  D. 
ON  (4'"  S.  viii.  548;  ix.  82.)— Tho 
ench  eupbuiBma  of  gay  ladies  and 
re  curiously  correlative,  hut  not 
^Dt :  Shakspere  applied  their  im- 
the  Grecian  "daughters  of  tho 
r  nocturnal  revellers,  unconsciousi^ 
)pt  the  Latin  designation  of  their 
asalina  while  discussing  her  merry 
E.  L.  8. 

IMINUTION     OF    PROVIKCIAI.   DlA- 

viii.  passim ;  ix.  80.) — P.  P,  is 
.  the  preface  to  "  Slaadbum  Faar" 
)2)  for  some  reniarhs  on  this  aub- 
with  P.  P.  as  tu  the  funeral  cha- 
□ny   Iteadinas''   in  the   North  of. 

"  readers  "  in  many  cases  seem  to 
r  source  than  Knheld's  Speaker, 
istiay  Instructor,  and  similar  anti- 
i  provincial  paper  1  find 


1,  amongst  the  " 


■nnpr 


Read- 


Parson  and  Dumplings,' 
rows,"  ic.  At  the  same  intellec- 
chorister  of  the  cathedral"'  sanff 
ripe  on  a  Friday,"  which  "  elicited 
er."  From  my  knowledge  of  penny 
.St  sav  that  the  dialect  pieces  oh- 
I'.  are  often  the  best,  and  tho  gems 
I  should  be  sorry  to  see  fiiem 
dde,  but  let  us  have  them  blended 
terature  of  the  "best  and  liighest 
■  no  more  of  "  dumplings,''  "  crows," 

N. 
)SY  Davibsos,  M..V.  (4'"  S.  is. 
this  worthy  man  well  for  many 
ght  me  to  write,  and  to  make  arti- 
being  a  master  of  the  piscatorial 
follow  in"-  the  Horatian  maxim — 


subscription  the  Fuemf  of  O'-siitiiy 
ik  veri-e,"  a  copy  of  which  I  poaseas, 
erily  believe  was  tho  last  eliort  of 
[  muce.  He  was  for  five-  uid  twenty 
n  Side  charge  of  the  parnhea  of 
1  Martin,  Wilts,  and  ended  hiidays 
village,  where  he  was  idso  buncd, 
13,  greatly  respected,  yet  an  over- 
rpaid,  and  neglected  man,  lefatii  sua 
W.  S. 


"fJS 


Psalm  cis.  (4""  S.  ix.  05.) — The  heading  of 
Psalm  cix.  is  no  doubt  owing  to  the  ignorance  of 
a  printer  in  the  first  instance.  All  the  headings 
are  from  the  Vulgat«,  and  it  ought  to  be  "  Deus 
laudim " ;  but  the  would-be  learned  printer  or 
looking  to  the  English  only— "God  of 
ise  "  —  took  upon  himself  to  substitute 
D."  The  Septuagint  has  "  r))>  oAnmr  ^lati 
rljin!!,"  and  this  rendering  (pace  Mr.  Mm 
I  Lachlan),  I  believe,  accurately  represents  tlie  He- 
brew sense.  The  Psalmist  appeals  to  the  Al- 
I  mighty  to  vindicate,  him  by  proclaiming  the  truth 
concerning  him  against  the  slanders  of  the  wicked : 
Speak  Thou  the  truth  concerning  me,  because  the 
tCHOodly  speak  falsehood. 

There  is  a  misprint  in  the  article  iu  p.  S5.    It 
should  be  "  tacearis,"  not  "  taciieris."* 

Hekdbbt  Randolph. 
P.S. — It  is  strange  that  the  Oxford  and  Cam- 
bridge doctors  should  have  permitted  the  error. 


miiKlUmtimt. 
NOTES  OS  BOOKS,  ETC. 

Tl>c   Old  Cl>tq:ie  Boot,  or  Boot  of  Remembraiux  of  lAe 

Chapel  Bnaal,  from  1561  to  1.44.      Ediltd  from  the 

Orlgiiuil  .VS.  prrurred  among  Iht  MtmimtnU  uf  the 

Chnpil  Rnyal,   St.  Jamei,  Palace,  by  Edward  Rim- 

bBuIl,  LL.D..  &C.     (Printed  for  the  Camden  Society.) 

The  interestiDg  volnme  here  printed,  which   is  the 

third  of  the  Xew  Seriea  of  the  PublioatioDS  of  the  C«n- 

dea   Society,  contains  a  curiona  history  of  the  Chapil 

Royal,  St.  James's  for  nearly  two  eentoriea,  as  recorded 

in  till'  book  kept  bv  the  Clerk  of  the  Cheque  for  the  time 

bein;;.     It  wil'  ibe'duty  of  this  officer  to  keep  an  acconnt 

of  (lie  BtleniiaDce,  and  to  note  Che  absence  of  the  prints 

and  (^nllemen,  in  order  (o  lay  the  same  before  [he  Dean 

or  Subdean,  and  to  record  all  rules  and  regulations  made 

by  the   Dean  and  Chapter  for  the  government  of  tlie 

chapel.    But  the  book  before  u^  which  seems  frum  the 

Irregularity  with  which  tho  entrie.s  are  in»erted  more  like 

many  curious  and  minute  particulars  of  Koyal  Ceremo- 
nies, Kunentls  Coronations,  Churchin^s,  Baptisms,  Royal 
and  Noble  Uarria^^es,  &c. ;  many  of  these  entries  bein^; 
of  great  historical  value.  While  many  of  them,  as  may 
"  be  injagjned.  Ihrow  great  light  on  the  changes  in- 
iiokI  from  time  to  time  in  the  performaDoe  of  divine 
LB    in   the  Chapel  Koyal,  they   are  also  especially 


„    ,  t  musidsns   and 

pools  often  supplying  new  and  valuable  dates;  and  Dr. 
Rimbault,  who  has  long  paid  special  attention  to  thia 
subject,  has  b«u  very  successful  in  turning  this  portion 
of  the  work  to  good  account,  and  illustrating  it  with  big 
noteJi~of  whi^h  it  indeed  may  be  said,  generally,  they  are 
all  t  crlinent  and  iunructive.  From  the  irre^ariCy  of  the 
:  have  already  alluded,  Ur.  Kimbanlt 


has  had  to  i 
ihow  the  a  I 


[*  This  is  no  misprint;  the  Tulgate  has  ta 


172 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  S.  IX.  Feb.  24^  T. 


men;  11.  Further  Notices  of  the  same:  III.  Dupcral  of 
Faymerits  duo.  to  (it»ooa.'*e«l  <ieutlemen ;  IV.  Records  of 
JSuiti-  for  Additional  ]*ay ;  V.  Orders,  Decrees,  and  lie- 
primuiids  roferrinp:  t«>  (ii'iitloinon  ;  VI.  Copie?  of  Royal 
warrants  and  Privy  Seals ;  VII.  Resij^natiusis,  Dismis- 
sals, and  Petitions ;  "VIII.  Oaths  of  SuIkK'.'iu,  rientlenum, 
See.;  IX.  BHifvolcniM  to  the  (TentlonuMi ;  X.  liecordsof 
the  Chapel  Feast ;  XI.  Appointnipntsof  the  Deans  ;  XII. 
The  Names  of  the  Suh-dcana,  Priests,  and  (TiMitlumeu  at 
various  Coronations;  XII 1.  Notices  app'-rtainin^  to  the 
Serjeants.  Yeomen,  (irooms,  and  other  OiKfr-*;  XIV. 
Further  Notices  of  the  same;  XV.  R'»yil  (. 'f  re  monies  ; 
XV I.  Royal  and  Noble  Marriages;  XVil.  Royal  and 
Noble  Baptisms,  Churcbings,  Confirmatii)n-,  «Sr-. ;  and 
lastly,  XVIII.  Forms  of  Prayer,  &c.  I  ho  Camden  So- 
ciety are  greatly  indebted  to  Lord  Sy«iu<-y  an«l  the 
Bishoi>  of  London,  who  have  pcrmitteil  theni  to  print 
thij-  curious  record,  and  to  Dr.  Riinbault  for  lIi  i  admirable 
manner  in  wliich  he  has  edited  it. 

Mi»:cUtinie^.     CoIIectefi  and  JOtfited   hi/   Karl  Stanhope. 

Sticnnd  Series.    (Murray.) 

If  it  be  true  of  mf)st  s<']iolars  and  m»n  rf  letters  th.it 
tliey  frc'iuently  <;onj  ■  acrross  hi.<torical  nienviran  la  and 
littVary  illu«itratlon-?  t'lo  valuable  to  Iv  lail  a-ide,  yet 
too  Miiall  t')  Torni  a  volume,  it  is  rs])e<'i;tlly  trni-  «it"  one 
who,  lik'  th'.'  n»ihl"  lord  whose  work  i-  now  bofore  u-*, 
i-njoys  tin:  advauta^-.-  of  hi^li  social  position,  and  a:i  inti- 
macv  with  thi"*  mo^t  distin;ruished  men  of  the  dav.  Like 
his  farmer  volume,  wliich  th-rived  some  ot*  its  interi-^t 
fnun  his  frie:j'i-!iiji  with  the  Duke  of  Wellington  and  Sir 
Robert  IVol,  it  i<  i  hii-fly  valuable  for  its  illustratinn  of 
histor}',  a.s  the  names  of  Mr.  Pitt,  Mr.  (.'anuin^,  Prince: 
Metternich,  and  Louis  Napoleon  will  serve  to  prove  ;. 
while  the  curious  illustrations  of  L-idy  Wortlcy  Mon- 
taa:ue's  detention  in  Urescia,  and  of  the  sad  story  of 
Mjijor  Andre,  and  the  nam^s  of  Lonl  Macaul.iy  and  Mr. 
HalUm  illustrate  its  literarv  value. 

<;;  K.DiiAi.i.  LiuRAUY.  —  The  erection  <«f  the  new 
libiary  bavin.:;  made  considerable  progres.s,  it  has  become 
iie'.i''>arv,  in  order  to  r-onstruct  the  corridi-r  with  thu 
Munimenl  Ri>«jms  beneath  for  the  pre-^ervati-in  of  the 
Rci-irds  of  the  CorponUion,  to  pull  down  th-  present 
buildiiiL'.  It  has  therefore  been  determineil  by  the  Com- 
mit te  to  cio.-o  the  lil)rary  on  and  after  the  1st  of  ^larcli 
ncx:  for  a  perio  1  of  about  three  months,  which  will  enable 
th    librari.iri  an«l  liis  assistants  to  re-arraii'^e  the  whole 

C(  '.h-ftio;i. 


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Y I  irk  "ill  ire. 


AY"«  Hiill.  LNfiEXKs  Til  TUK  URNTLRMA.N'S  Mv.A/.IN!.  ITJI  to  l-Lj. 
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I.i'N  :m»n  (Quarterly  Ukvikw.    Not.  19, 13, 16,  a!>d  !■>. 

Wantul  by  J//-.  ThomnA  A'ye,  I{B}li4:ld,  mar  !?t<t'k;)ort. 

lli>TORir.\j.  A(T:or»T  OF  THE  BK.Xf:AL  Xativk  I.m'astrt,  by  Cap- 
tain J'lhn  W'.hiaiu^. 

TTi'ifiMoitV'h  iIi><roitY  ov  TlIK  Hon.  AuTiu.rnY  Company  of 
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our  N«)tes  on  Books,  §-r. 

M.  ^l.  L. — ^* Aired'*  is  not  a  Scotticism,  In  WoreUta's 
Dictionari-,  «.  r.  "  Air,"  onr  Cnrrespomdent  wQl  kmi  Ah 
dfjiiiitioa :  **  To  expttse  to  the  air"  as^to  air bm  •r  f0^ 
miints," 

T.  \V.  M.  (West  Troy,  U.  &)— Oin  our  Coi 
procure  for  us  a  carte  of  Lieut,  LaJtrhiah  f 

II.  S.  S. — The  portraits  of  most,  if  not  all,  oftk^faik- 
men  inqnirvd  nfi^r  have  l/een  ent/niced,  and  nuuibe  omaiad 
at  low  pricvsl  Apply  to  J.  'Strnson,  15,  Kingi't  lUet, 
Kim/s  Uotid,  Chelwn,  and  A,  yichotls,  5,  Green  8htA 
I^iwster  Sqttarf, 

T.  K.  S. —  For  t/tr/ff  lists  of  members  of  At  UgalfMfi^ 
sion  rnnsidt  " N.  i  ().*'  2*'d  s.  xi.  fll.T  ;  xiu  .ill;  4»  & 
iii.  V2*\.  Th-  law  lihniry  of  Lincoln's  InnU  tkehtAk 
L'iiidxin. 

ni:NKi>i<  T.—  Tn'o  instances  of  the  ancient  Scottish  eMtHi 
nft-ikinij  a  wife  on  trial  will  he  found  in  "  N.  A  Q.**  !■& 

II.  Iwl. 

<r.  J.  11. — The  case  of  Margaret  df.  Camtam,  wkOfWA 
hrr  chattels  and  aoods,  vas  sold  by  her  huMbandf  ■9^' 
fomul  in  Grimitldi's  Orij^ines  Gencalogicae,  Lowf.  ite 
pp.  2-.>,  J.l  ;  and  in  «*  N.  &  Q."  1«»  S.  vu.  602. 

T.  K,—  Thi'  verses  on  the  fiy-Uafofa  BihU^  emuot^ 
aUrihutcd  to  Lord  Byron^  are  by  Air  Walter  Scott,  UflH^ 
tery,  ehap.  xii.     They  are  spiAen  by  the  WhitM  Lad^  ^ 

Avf.Hcl. 

\V.  A.  S.  U. — Niw.  artUdes   on   tht   nronumdalkn  ^\ 
"  Ciu'prr  "  appeared  in  vols.  iv.  foviU.  of  onr  flrrt  fi««K 
and  iw't  on  that  of**  Cucumber  **  in  the  S^  S.  U.  807t  157. 

rKV5(jiN  M.  Jackson  (Manchester).— TAf  ww  if  I 
/'('   t'ltund  in  Oliver  Goldsmith*s  poem  "  Edwin  ami 

C.  W.  Pi:xNV  (Wellington  College).— tfarit^  «< ' 
Christian  name,  has  been  discussed  in**y.is  Q."  9^  ft  vLj 
nw,  200,  *2.'}9, 278,  404,  444,  618  ;  vii.  82.  j 

Fklix  AKNirK.ni.  — /n  the  Oxford  Bible,  17175 
witnl  viiio^ar  is  printed  irtstead  o^ vineyard  iniktrm 
hvad-lim  of  Luke  xxii.    See««N.  4  Q."  2"'  S,  It.  M,  ^ 

M.  II.  t'oTTox  (llamsgate).— 7^  tsrtMt  mUt 
fpiis  of  Montmse  appeared  in  tht  Quartariy  ItcriiWi' 
Ixxix.  pp.  1  to  60,  Vee,  1846. 

A.  S. — The  hard  porcekdn,ftmnd  at  Xm9  di  Pi^ 
rari»,  in  1780,  by  Le  Maire,  wa»  bought  in  1783 

trhit  niarkal  it  with  his  name, 

K.  T.  (Patching.)— Ftfitr/N^per  f&o/^  appmr, 

W.  B.  K.  L.  (NottineHia)— rem  hadb^tv^^l 
ayiswar  altoyether  till  other  r^ies  Aaw  appmrti' 

An  Oli>  Collector  (GUigow).  —  Swi 
J.  W.  F.  at  Brighton. 

irOTICE. 

We  hoc  leave  to  utato  that  we  (ImUb*  to  ntwv  *« 
which.for  any  reaaou.  we  do  not  piinti  aiidto  tiila  rala  «««ai 

cxn-pttiin. 

All  oommunicationi ■hnald  In  •ddiwai  to  MM  Bdltor-all 
43,  Welllacton  Stnet,  W.C.  ««««-— 

Tu  all  euminuBioatiinu  alionld  be  affiaid  Cha  ■ 
thr  -oudcr.not  neeeciarUy  fin*  pubUoaUoo,  k«t  aei 

Ikith. 


4**  8.  IX.  March  2,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


173 


LONDON^  SATURDAY,  MARCH  %  1872. 


CONTENTS.— No  218. 


XOTM:  — Colonel  Archihaid  Strachan.  173  — Folk  Lore. 
174  ~  f^eeran  the  allafrf^r^utenarian^lTri— John  Hn^'wood 
and  Geoffrey  Chaucer.  177  —  "Airy  Shell •*:  "Comus." 
Hne  2S1  ~  IMifende —  Knfflish  Ph.vMcianR  in  8witzf>rland  — 
Plil7  the  B«ar  —  "  Qui  in  the  Cold  "  —  Oystcn  for  Aixtrca 
—  Stamp  used  instead  of  tho  Sign  Manual  of  Henry  VIII. 
178. 

QUFRIBW:  — Holyrood  Plctnreu,  179— Ballad— Archbi»hop 
Blaolibtirne  —  Canada  —  Dauforth  —  Domestic  Chauela  — 
Mr  John  Eliot—  Uoraldic— Hotcli  Pot  —  Inqnisittiones 
Put  Mortem  —  Jpws-harp  —  "  Lpframbilis  "  —  •'  Nee  bene 
fecit,  nee  male  fecit,  sed  interfeeit"  —  Nevison  the  High- 
wKyman  —  Panado  or  Pavado  — Quotations  — Plurals  — 
Bevolutinn  of  1688  —  Society  of  Ancient  DiMsts :  SpirttuKl- 
ism  in  1780— "Tarole  Mod^me  di  Geofrran%"  — Tudor 
Houae  at  Wimbknlon  —  UWa  latissima —'*  Wooden  Nut- 
"179. 


REPLIES:  -  CDohprty's  Maxims,  182  -Wicked :  M^chant. 
lb.  —  **  Old  Bafra,"  1S8  -  Austrijui  Polish  Women  wearing 
Wla —  Lonffevity  —  Bell  ln!*rription8  —  Bows  in  Bonnete 
—Rev.  Mr.  Moultrie  —  "  To  play  Hell  and  Tommy  "  —  The 
Hundreds  of  Pelborouirh.  Wye,  ftc.  —  Nelaon's  Punctuality 

—  Seals  of  Oliver  Cromwell  —  Deer  used  in  Sacrifice  — 
Black  Rain— The  Priocc»a  Elizabeth  —  Illuminating — 
"As  straight  ae  a  Die"  — Dorsetshire  Rtmmilk  — Round 
Towen  of  Norfblk —  "  Whether  the  Prejudices  in  fkvour 
of  Gold,'*  Ac  — Saulies- Linguistic  Children  —  Inscrip- 
tions in  Old  Books  —  The  Erl  King  —  Persorution  of  the 
Heathens—  Heraldic—  Myfanwy  —  Rnbena's  "Huflannah 
and  the  BIdfrs  "  —  Time  Immemorial  — **  Ihrogrcsa,"  Ac. 
Hin  Edgoworth  —  luvajiiouof  Switzerland  by  the  English 

—  **  England  expects  every  Mao,"  Ac.,  183. 

Votas  on  Books,  Ac. 


COLONEL  ARCHIBALD  STRACHAN. 

"  It  is  singular/'  says  Mr.  Hill  Burton  in  his  Hhimy 
<tf  Scotland,  **  that  ot  thi.s  man*,  who  seemed  for  a  few 
months  to  have  the  destinies  of  the  countr}'  in  hin  keep- 
ing, so  little  should  be  known.  Hi.s  name  is  not  to  be 
ibund  in  any  biogrnphicnl  dictionarv.  He  went  just  a 
step  beyond  tho  place  assigned  for  Scots  worthies,  and 
so  was  neither  commemorated  as  friend  or  cncmv.'*— 
Vol.  vu.  p.  293. 

He  was  a  native  of  the  ancient  burgh  of  Mua- 
aelburgh,  near  Edinburgh,  where  his  family  ]iave 
flourisDed  for  many  generationn,  as  the  local  re- 
oorda  testify.  Lamont,  in  his  Dian/  (p.  27),  calls 
him  a  "  Musselbrough  man  borne."  By  all  account, 
hia  early  life  was  wild  nnd  dissolute ;  but  having 
amended  ''his  once  very  low  life,"  savs  BailJie 
(Letters,  iii.  1L2-3),  "he  inclined  much  in  opinion 
towards  the  Sectaries,  and  having  joined  Cromwell 
at  Preston  .  .  .  continued  with  them  to  the  king^s 
death."  ^ 

On  November  17,  1643,  he  appears  in  the 
parish  register  of  Inveresk  as  a  witness  to  the 
baptism  of  Archibald^  son  of  Thomas  Smithy  por- 
tioner  of  Inveresk^  and  Isabel  Strachan  his  sister. 
He  Ls  described  as ''  Archibald  Strauchane,  Captain 
in  the  Parliament's  army."  i  lo  is  next  heard  of 
as  an  able  soldier  and  servant  of  the  Scottish 
Parliament.  On  Montrose's  landing  in  the  North 
in  1660,  Strachan,  described  by  Afalcolm  Laing 
w  ''a  distinguished  Sectary,  who  had  defeated 


Middleton*s  late  insurrection  "  (iii.  417),  was  sent 
against  him  with  three  hundred  horse,  David 
Leslie  following  with  four  thousand  men.  The 
result  of  the  unfortunate  skirmish  at  Corbie's 
Dale  is  well  known.  Sir  Jas.  Balfour  (iv.  9) 
describes  it  graphically  enough : — 

'*  L*  Colonell  Strachan  persewed  them  into  the  woodsy 
nnd  at  the  first  charf^e  made  them  all  to  rune  .... 
did  execotione  one  them  for  5  or  6  roylcK,  oucn  untill 
sunno  sett.  He  receiued  a  shotte  vpon  hi.1  bollcy,  bot 
lighting  vpone  the  double  of  his  belte  A,  boffe  coate,  did 
not  pierce.** 

• 

At  p.  70  of  the  same  volume,  it  is  recorded  that 
the  Parliament,  on  July  3,  1G50,  gave  him  and 
Lieut.-Col.  Robert  Racket  "from  the  housse 
hartie  thankes." 

Only  four  weeks  later,  viz.  on  Jnlv  31,  Crom- 
weirs  troops  lying  near  his  native  village,  Mussel- 
burgh, Balfour  tells  us  that — 

•  *•  Gen.-Maior  Rob.  Montgomery  A  Colonell  Straqo- 
hane  led  oat  a  pairtey  af^ainst  the  enimev  of  2000  horMW 
A  500  foote,  h  beate  him  sonndlie  ;  &  if  he  [qn.  they?] 
had  had  1000  more,  thev  had  nmted  his  qubole  armey. 
The  killed  to  him  5  Colonells  and  L.-Colonells,  mortfy 
woundit  L.-6en.  Lambert  and  aboue  500  souldiers,  and 
returned  with  no  grate  losse.'* — Vol.  ir.  p.  87. 

Lambert  was  not  mortally  wounded;  he  re- 
covered, and  lived  for  many  years  afterwards. 

Strachan's  mind  appears,  like  those  of  too  many 
of  the  leading  men  of  that  stormy  period,  to  have 
been  warped  and  twisted  with  all  sorts  of  wild 
ideas  on  religious  matters.  "  At  this  time,'^  says 
Baillie  (Joe,  ciL),  "many  of  his  old  doubts  revive 
in  him."  He  was,  as  we  have  seen,  *'  an  awak- 
ened sinner;  one  of  those  whose  early  life  waa 
burdened  with  such  a  weight  of  sin  that  they 
feel  as  if  all  the  world  ought  to  do  penance  for 
it"  (Hill  Burton,  loc.  cit,).  He  kept  aloof  now 
from  king  and  Cromwell  alike,  and  soon  after 
took  command  of  the  considerable  army  raised  bj 
the  "Remonstrants'-  or  "Protesters,"  otherwise 
"  the  wild  Westiand  Whigs,"  then  lying  at  Dum- 
fries. These  men  objected  to  the  "young  man 
Charles  Stuart"  on  the  score  of  his  not  being  a 
sound  Covenanter.  There  is  no  evidence  to  show 
that  Strachan  wished  to  pla^  into  his  old  leader 
Cromwell's  hands;  thou^li  it  is  most  likely,  at 
least  if  we  are  to  believe  Wodrow,  that  Cromwell 
was  most  anxious  to  secure  him,  and  made  him 
the  most  flattering  offers.  Some  of  his  followers 
had  a  skirmish  with  a  part  of  Cromwell's  army 
j  at  Hamilton ;  yet  soon  alter  the  Estates,  with  the 
I  king  at  their  head,  instituted  a  prosecution  against 
him  as  an  abettor  of  the  enemy.  (See  "  Snnim(ms 
against  Col.  Archibald  Strachan,  Walter  Dundar 
of  that  Ilk,  and  others,"  Scotch  Ach^  vi.  548). 
Worse  and  worse  —  they  never  did  things  by 
halves  in  those  days — on  January  12,  1(551,  the 
day  on  which  Lieut.-General  Middleton  was  re- 
laxed from  his  penance,  in  sackcloth,  in  Dand& 
church  — 


174 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«b  9- 1^  Haboh  2,  'T! 


'*  Colonell  Archbald  Straquhan  was  excommunicat  and 
ddiuered  to  the  deiuall  in  the  churche  of  Perthe  by  M' 
Alexander  Rollgcke."— Balfour,  op,  cit. 

Wodrow  (^Anakcta,  ii.  8G)  says  that  this  **  sin- 
gular Christian's  heart  was  much  broken  with 
that  sentence,  and  that  he  sickened  and  died 
within  a  while."  He  says  further,  on  the  authority 
of  Strachan*8  brother-in-law  Thomas  Warner,  or 
Vemor,  minister  of  Balmaclollan  —  a  famous 
Covenanting  hero— that,  so  far  from  being  an 
abettor  of  Cromwell,  Strachan  had  refused  the 
most  tempting  offers ;  one  of  which  was  the  com- 
mand of  all  the  Parliament  forces  in  Scotland, 
which  Cromwell  made  to  him. 

In  the  Burgh  Court  Book  of  Musselburgh,  under 
date  May  7, 1055,  is  a  discharge :  — 

"  Issobel  Strachane,  with  consent  of  Thomas  Smj-th, 
portioner  of  Inneresk,  her  spouse,  Jonet,  Bessie,  Helene, 
A  Margaret  Strachanes,  all  lawful  sisters,  and  appeirand 
executrices  to  umq'»  Collonell  Archibald  Strachane,  in 
favour  of  Robert  Strachane,  baillie,  their  brother,  of  all 
that  they  could  claim  of  goods,  money,  etc.,  in  terms  of 
the  Testement  of  the  said  umq»«  Collonell  Archibald 
Strachane." 

Thomas  Smith  was  one  of  the  leading  inhabit- 
ants of  Inveresk,  and  was  appointed  a  justice  of 
the  peace  under  a  commission  of  the  Parliament 
in  1656.  By  his  wife  Isobel  Strachan  he  had  ten 
sons  and  four  daughters — all  of  whose  births  are 
recorded  in  the  parish  register.  Isobel  Strachan 
died  at  the  birth  of  her  thirteenth  child  in  1053; 
and  Thomas  Smith  married  fo/  his  second  wife 
Margaret  Watsone.  (See  an  imperfect  sketch, 
"The  Smiths  in  Inveresk,"  "  N.  &  Q."  4*'»  S.  iii. 
166,  which  I  hope  some  day  to  be  able  to  expand.) 

Which  of  the  above-named  sisters,  if  it  was  one 
of  them,  married  Thomas  Warner,  I  have  not 
ascertained.  Thomas  Warner  s  brother  Patrick, 
who  was  minister  of  Irvine,  purchased  the  pro- 
perty of  Ardeer,  and  was  the  founder  of  the 
family  which  now  flourishes.  Ilis  only  daughter, 
Margaret,  was  the  wife  of  Eobert  Wodrow  the 
historian. 

From  the  fact  of  Thomas  Warner  having  been 
generally  known  in  his  parish  and  in  contem- 
porary history  as  Vemor.  and  from  his  connection 
with  the  Strachans,  it  appears  highly  probable 
that  these  Warners,  or  Vornors,  were  descended 
from  the  old  family  of  that  name  which  has  long 
flourished  in  Inveresk  and  its  neighbourhood. 

F.  M.  S. 

FOLK  LORE. 

North  Devon  Folk  Lore  :  Cure  for  Tooth- 
ACnE. — Go  to  a  churchyard  and  bite  a  tooth  out 
of  the  skull  of  a  woman,  and  you  will  never  be 
troubled  with  toothache.  A  gentleman  of  middle 
age  residing  in  North  Devon  vividly  remembers 
being  taken  as  a  child  by  his  nurse  into  a  church- 
yard where  a  grave  was  being  dug;  and  his  horror 


on  her  procuring  a  skull  which  was  tamed  up, 
and  bidding  him  try  to  bite  a  tooth  out  of  it 

Pelaqius. 

Lincolnshire  Folk  Lore  :  Signs  of  CHAirex 

IN  THE  Weather. — My  clerk  informed  me  while 

leaving  church  on    a  recent  Sunday  that   the 

weather  was  going  to  change:  ''the  pigs  weie 

tossing  up  straw  in  the  yard,  the  turnip-sheep 

rushing  aoout,  and  the  beasts  (AngUc^  bullocks) 

fighting  with  each  other."   Of  course  the  weather 

did  not  change,  but  I  thought  of  the  same  belief 

in  Virgils  time ;  for  fine  weather,  he  tells  us — 

'*  non  ore  solatos 
Immundi  meminere  sues  jactare  maniplos," 

and  in  imminent  bad  weather  the  pecudea  sn 
l(Bt(B.  {GeorgicSf  i.  399,  423.)  PELAGim. 

Plough-Day  Sermon /and  Dinner. — ^Li  the 
Stamford  Mercury  for  Feb.  2,  under  the  hesdiii^ 
''  Melton  Mowbray,*'  is  an  account  of  an  aDnou 
dinner  on  Jan.  17, ''  the  only  public  dinner  gives 
in  the  town,  and  towards  which  much  interest  if 
manifested."  It  was  presided  over  by  the  vifiir 
of  the  parish.  The  newspaper  in  question  givei 
the  following  account  of  the  origin  of  this  dianer: 

"  The  dinner  originated  from  the  will  of  Mr.  HndMOr 
founder  of  the  Bede  Hooae,  who  beqaeathed  the  sum  i 
20s.  for  the  preaching  of  a  sermon  on  the  first  Sundiif 
after  the  17th  of  January,  and  20f .  for  the  refireshing  of  ^ 
vicar,  churchwardens,  and  their  friends." 

This  custom  appears  worthy  of  a  notice  in  tfaew 
pages.  CniHBERT  BsDSi 

Prophecies  relating  to  England.  J  tao^ 
scribe  the  following  from  a  curious  old  book :—         1 

"Anno  1G66.  Magna  calamitas,  Satomo  per  Htf^ 
scopum  transeunte,  eius  quadrato  per  decimam. 

Anno  1091.  Mapia  Rcipablicn  tarbatio,  coxdfl  Sooip9 
transeunte  per  decimam. 

Anno  1705.  Adversa  omnia,  quia  planets  truistf^ 
per  suas  oppositiones. 

Annus  1756  minatur  maximum  excidiam  qida  Hoi^ 
Scopus  peruenit  ad  corpus  Satumi,  et  fit  tranaitiis  4  liff^ 
a^reo  in  tcrreum  sibi  contrarium. 

Circa  ann.  1884.  Maxima  adueraitas,  quia  tane  tfts* 
dus  peruenit  ad  ^adum  septimum  Soorpij,  qoadxrtia 
Anglifle."  —  Astrologia  Nova  Methodus  /Vuiiciaei  JMd 
Arabis  Christiani.    Anno  M.DCUlli.  p.  6S. 

The  ^*  magna  calamitas  "  for  1666  was  a  gnd 
hit,  as  this  proved  to  be  the  year  of  the  Fire ;  th9 
three  following  shots  are  rather  wide  of  the  mari^ 
We  have  yet  to  see  what  1884  has  in  store  for  Pi» 

William  Batbs,  RA. 

Birmingham. 

Singular  Custom.  —  In  the  island  of  Telo^ 
one  of  the  Sporades  group,  there  exists  a  locv 
custom  which  prevents  most  of  the  younger  aiHs 
from  marrying.  The  dowry  of  the  mother  is  gii^ 
to  the  eldest  daughter,  ana  that  of  the  father  ^ 
the  eldest  son,  whom  the  second  daughter  is  ili^ 
obliged  to  serve  during  all  her  lifetime.  If  tlitf* 
are  other  daughters  they  axe  left  to  a  miaenli^ 
fatc^  as,  hayiug  no  money  or  proportyi  they  oi^ 


4»S.  IX.  March  2, -72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


175 


not  find  husbands,  t'niler  these  circumsUnces  it 
ia  scarcelj  to  ba  -wondBred  at  that  the  population 
of  the  island  is  not  on  the  increase.  (See  Confidnr 
Sejxtrts,  No.  1.  of  1S71.  Mce-Consul  BiliotU  on 
the  "  Trade  and  Commerce  of  the  Sporndes.") 
PniLiv  S.  Kino. 

FiriiiiDeot  Street. 

"Whalbs'  "Rn!3." — It  appears  to  be  among 
"  things  not  generally  known,"  that  these  are 
jaw  bonre,  which  in  whales  are  about  one-third 
the  lenglJi  of  the  entire  body.  They  show  the 
aperture  for  the  maiillary  artery,  Tein,  and  nerve, 
but  no  teeth ;  the  place  of  ihese  being  supplied 
I^  the  huge  fringes  of  "  whalebone"  that  entangle 
the  small  marioe  creatures  on  which  the  whales 
■  subsist.  J-  T,  F. 

Bitfield  Hall,  Durham. 

FisQEii  Cakes. — In  the  ancient  town  of  Llan- 
twit  Major  a  custom  prevails  of  making  at  Christ- 
mas  &iger  cakes,  that  is  cakea  made  in  the  form 
of  B  hand,  on  the  back  of  which  is  a  little  bird. 
What  ia  the  origin  of  this  custom,  and  does  it 
prevul  in  any  other  part  of  the  kingdom  ? 

E.&M. 

DoBaBTsniRB  Folk  Lore.  —  When  a  man  is 
hung,  he  is  said  to  be  stabbed  with  a  Bridport 
dagger.  The  ssTing  originated  from  the  quantity 
of  &T  grown  tnere.  People  who  are  unneiRh- 
bourlr  are  said  to  be  as  far  apart  as  Lewsdon  Hill 
from  Pillesdon  (or  Piladon)  Pen ;  the  latter  is  an 
old  Koman  encampment.  These  two  hills  are 
known  to  seamen  as  the  "  Uow  and  Calf." 

Jrsil  Nepob. 

GEERAS  THE  ALLEGED  CESTENARIAN. 
Since  the  publication  in  "  X.  &.  Q."  of  Feb.  10 
•(aili,  p.  108)  of  my  notice  of  Thomns  Geeran, 
the  alleged  centenarian  of  Brighton,  I  have  had 
handed  to  me  the  results  of  an  inquiry  into  his 
case.  It  is  so  exhaustive  and  complete  a  demo- 
lition of  the  aeries  of  falsehoods  by  which  Geeran 
imposed  upon  the  benevolent,  that  I  think  it  de- 
»errea  publication  without  alleratioa  or  abridg- 
ment. •  William  J.  Thom3. 

40,  Si.  Georgs's  Sqnnro,  S.W. 


"  Longevity  :  The  Life  of  Tbomae  Geeran,  late  of  the 
71 H  Hieh]ititd«»." 

Determined,  if  possible,  to  fathom  the  mysterr 
of  this  old  man's  reputed  services  in  the  7l8t,  1 
went  to  the  Public  Record  Office,  and  obtained 
access  to  the  original  muster  rolls,  pay  sheets,  and 
description  roll  o(  this  regiment,  for  a  period  ex- 
Unding  from  ITSO  to  1830,  which  period  more 
than  covered  the  time  of  his  alleged  Berrice. 

From  this  search  I  extracted  the  following  in- 
fimnation: — 


In  I7tlG,  the  year  of  hia  alleged  enlistment, 
there  wna  no  nueh  man  on  the  pay-sheets  of  the 
71st,  nor  was  there  any  name  at  all  like  it. 

In  1700,  the  year  alleged  ia  which  he  was  pre- 
sent with  the  71et  in  India,  there  was  no  such 
man  or  name  on  the  pay-lista  of  the  regiment. 

In  1801,  the  year  when  he  alleged  lie  was  iq 
^^P*^  there  was  no  such  name  on  the  rolls. 

In  1800,  the  yearCorunna  was  fought,  at  which 
battle  he  alleged  he  was  present,  tliere  was  no 
such  name  on  the  rolls. 

In  1815,  the  year  Waterloo  was  fought,  at 
which  battle  he  aueged  he  was  present,  there  was 
no  such  name  on  the  rolls. 

In  1810,  the  year  in  which  he  alleged  he  wu 
discharged,  there  was  no  such  name  on  the  roils. 

It  may  fwrly  be  asked  then,  is  it  possible  that 
he  could  have  served  as  he  alleged,  and  yet  not 
hare  his  name  on  these  rolls?  The  pay-lists  are 
the  oripnala  forwarded  quarterly  by  the  pay- 
master, and  containing  the  name  of  every  member 
of  the  regiment  drawing  pay,  and  therefore  fully 
to  be  relied  upon. 

Where,  then,  could  this  old  roan  have  picked 
up  all  his  wonderful  anecdotes  and  asserted  re- 
miniscences of  the  exploits  of  the /leti*  The  fol- 
lowing information  will,  I  think,  go  a  long  way 
to  prove  who  this  man  really  was,  and  why  ho 
should  have  picked  out  such  a  regiment  as  tha 

It  appears  from  the  pay-sheets  of  the  7l3t  Foot 
in  1813,  that  there  was  a  man  of  the  name  of 
Michael  Gearyn  or  Gai/ran,  then  serving. 

From  the  description  roll  it  appears  that  he 
enlisted  March  3,  1813,  and  deserltd  on  Aprii  \0, 
1813. 

lie  was  bora  at  Turlee  {tic)  in  the  county  of 
Kerry,  Ireland,  and  was  by  trade  a  tailor.  Tha 
fallowing  is  a  comparative  description  of  Thomas 
Geeran  and  Michael  Gearyn,  by  which  it  will  be 
seen  that  in  appearance,  &c.  there  must  have  been 
so  great  a  resemblance  between  these  two  men 
as  almost  to  establish  their  identity :  — 

Thomas  Geeran*,  bom  at  TvOa,  KiBaloe,  Clan ; 
height  on  enlisting,  6  feet  lOJ;  hair,  white  in 
1870 ;  eyes  blue ;  complexion  fresh. 

Michael  Gearyn,  bom  at  Turlee  (?),  co.  Kerry; 
height  on  enlisting  6  feet  0} ;  btur  brown ;  eyea 
blue ;  complexion  fresh. 

Thomas  Geeran,  when  asked  the  name  of  tha 
ofScers  of  the  re^ment,  could  only  recollect  two, 
Col.  Denis  Packe  and  Lt.  Anderson  the  adjutant. 

Col.  Denis  Packe  commanded  the  reuimeot  for 
a  great  many  years,  and  his  name  would  therefore 
be  weU  known  in  it. 

Lt  Anderson  the  adjutant  did  not  enter  the 

*  Thomai  Geeran  itsted  Va  fatheiis  name  was  MichatL 
This  artouEtorhis  personal  appooranco  is  Uhen  from  hi* 
■TUwcn  to  a  ronn  Knt  to  bim  ttma  Chelsea  UospiUl  in 

lasi. 


xru 


xivyxo-^K^  __ 


SCTTico  until  1808;  was  adjutant  from  1811  until 
after  1813,  and  therefore  was  the  adjutant  when 
Michad  Genryn  was  in  the  regiment. 

Michael  Geann  stated  his  age  at  enlistment 
into  the  71st  Foot  in  1813  as  25.  If  Michael  and 
Thomas  were  one  and  the  same  person,  his  age  at 
death,  Oct.  -28,  1H71,  would  be  about  8,3,  not  105. 
The  following  extracts  are  intended  to  show 
the  numerous  contradictions  that  are  in  the  book 
entitled  Longevihj :  The  Life  of  Thomas  Geeran, 
late  of  Out  l\»t  llUjhlanden, 

We  give,  first,  statements  made  by  the  man 
himself,  or  by  some  one  acting  on  his  behalf,  and 
then  tlie  extracts  from  the  same  work  contradict- 
ing these  statements. 

Appended  to  these  are  also  extracts  from  the 
Tarioiis  letters  and  papers  sent  up  to  Chelsea 
Hospital  from  time  tf)  time  in  support  of  his  peti- 
tion for  a  pension  for  his  services  in  the  71st 
regiment ;  and  also  evidence  as  regards  tlie  stations 
of  that  regiment  during  the  period  Geeran  stated 
he  served  in  it;  its  foreign  service  and  history; 
nearly  the  whole  of  which  tend  to  show  that  tli(» 
7l8t  wa:j  not  at  the  places  at  the  time  stated 
by  (.Jeeran,  and  that  he  could  not  poijsibly  have 
served  with  it,  and  yet  have  performed  the  service 
lie  stated  he  did. 

This  latter  evidence  is  extrnctcd  from  the  7/iV- 
ton'cal  Itecoj'ds  of  the  list  Ilujhlatul  Lvjht  In- 
fafUri/^  published  by  command  of  II.  M.  \Villiam 
IV.  Covip'detl  from  official  rccorda  hy  H.  Camion, 
JEsff.^  rHncipal  Clerk  of  the  Adjutant  OeyieraVs 
Offivv. 

The  extracts  from  the  book  Longevity  are 
printed  iu  ronian  type,  each  extract  being  fol- 
lowed by  its  contradictory  statement,  in  Italica^ 
some  of  these  being  from  the  book  Lonycvity^  and 
some  from  official  records. 

Pages  37  and  59.  "  Tom's  father  was  a  farmer. 
Tom  as>isted  him.  After  his  fathers  death  he 
held  the  appointment  of  clerk  in  the  oiiice  of  a 
wealthy  iirni  in  Waterford,  and  was  raised  to  an 
advanced  po^rt  as  agent  to  the  branch  house  in 
America.  JJefore  starting  he  got  drunk  and 
enli>t»d." 

Pago  50.  *^  Bred  a  sawyer,  he  emttinued  to  work 
at  hi.-i  frfdf  fill  the  year  17D0,  when  he  enlisted  into 
the  71if^  Foot:' 

l*rtgo  .*i'.>.  "  Sailed  to  join  the  71st  or  Glasgow 
regiment  in  17S>7." 

"  In  Junt'  1808,  H.  M,  George  III.  wan  pleased 
to  appnur  of  the  71^^  bearing  the  title  of  Glasgow 
regiment:^  "  (\'ide  Historical  Jtccords.) 

Page  31).  "In  1707  they  landed  at  Madras, 
where  the  recruits  first  met  their  comrades." 

**  Seringapatam  was  taken  May  4, 1701>.  Tippoo 
Saib  was  killed.  Thomas  Geeran  did  not  see 
Tippoo  killed,  but  saro  him  after  his  fall,  and  de- 

■*^  ''    hiiu    as    a    *'tall    fine-looking  fellow." 


AMiilst  this  was  going  on  the  / .      ^*.,  ^ 
ing. 

**  In  Get.  1707  the  regiment  embarked  at^  Madras 
for  Eli  gland.  Theff  tcere  at  tea  during  the  re- 
mainder of  tlie  year,  and  ■  arrived  at  fVbehoich 
Angmt  1L>;  1798. 

*^  During  the  year  1790  the  regiment  wae  stationed 
in''  Scotlatid,  The  head  quetrters  were  at  SUrMng:' 
(\'ide  Historical  Records,) 

Page  41.  ''  Geeran  said  in  the  year  1801  tlw 
71st  was  ordered  to  Egypt,  and  on  Much  Slit 
at  midnight  Tom  and  his  comrades  were  ont  nd 
ready  for  battle." 

The  late  Marquis  of  Westmeath,  on  raadii^ 
the  above  passage,  denied  it  by  saying  ''  The  71ft 
were  not  in  Egypt  at  all."  Geeran  in  xeplrMiil 
^'  My  company  was  sent  from  Gibraltar,  anaIa^ 
rived  at  Alexandria  with  Sir  Dennis  Pack,  Gemrs! 
in  the  Field  and  Colonel  in  the  Army." 

'<  Early  in  the  year  1801  the  7lst  were  hi  JMlik 
(Left  iScatlandiH  June  1800.) 

**  On  April  24, 1801,  Lietd.-Coi. 
assufned  the  cofnmatid  of  the  regitneut. 

'*  The  regimnd  rctnained  t»  Ireland  until  JuOh 
180r'. 

*'  Major  Pack  was  stationed  with  the  Atk  Dn,  Gi^ 
in  England  and  Sroiland  until  1800,  when  he  wes 
promoted  on  Dec.  0,  1800,  to  the  rank  of  iMdr 
CoL  in  the  71st  liegt.,  and  on  April  24,  180U 
joined  that  corps  in  Ireland^  in  which  ootmtry  ^ 
siTced  wdU  August  1806."  (Vide  Hidoriod  *- 
cords.) 

Page  42.  Geeran's  account  of  wound  at  Yittoo*-' 
Done  by  a  Spiuiish  soldier. 

The  Spaniards  were  the  allies  of  (he  Britiiht  ^ 
the  enemieSj  as  asserted  iVi  the  account  of  this 

Page  43.  '*  Sir  Thomas  Picton,  who  coi 
the  '  Jird  Division,'  &c." 

'^  Sir  Thomas  IHvton  commanded  the  5th 
at  Waterloo^"    (Vide  Historical  JRecordt.) 

Page  42.  ''Geeran  received  a  ball  in  thek 
knt^e  at  Conn  ma,  besides  another  gunshot  woo' 

Ptige  1').  '^  Stated  he  was  wounded  at  Wattf^ 
in  1815." 

Stated  in  1808  that  he  received  a  bullet  or 
in  the  body,  at  Waterloo. 

I'age  O'K  ^'' He  escaped  through  Waterloo, 
efitered  Paris  with  the  victorious  army" 

Dr.  l^ckford  in  18C4  stated  in  a  letter 
Geeran  told  him  that  he  was  wounded  in  tlv 
at  Salamanca. 

The  71st  was  not  at  Salamanca, 

Page  47.  '*  I  was  not  titmed  out  of  ^ 
but  discharged  from  the  71st  ui  1819." 

Page  58.  '<  The  fact  of  hie  net  having  a 
was  otcingy  as  he  admitted  himoetf,  to  his 
been  discharged  from  the  service  for 


March  2,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


177 


48.  "He  was  discharged   in  the  Isle  of 

invalidaiV 
'■  49.  "  In  conjidence  Geeran  told  a  friend^ 

.../*«  wa8  not  an  invalid  when  di»c)uiryedj 
'Junks  lie  iras  dismissed  the  serviced 

>  47.  '*  States  that  about  twenty  years  ago 
ived  a  Peninsula  medal." 
id  in  1864  that  he  received  medals  for 
la,  Waterloo,  Peninsula  (eleven  clasps),  and 
All  made  away  with  for  drink  or  lost. 
Chehea  Records.)  | 

e  58.  *^  The  same -cause  (his  misconduct)  will 
'■  for  his  not  Juiving  the  IVaterloo  niedfU^ 
under  the  circumstances f  became  forfeited ^  and 
^prived  him  of  any  claim  to  the  Pcninatda  \ 

s  name  cannot  be  traced  on  the  medal  roll  of 
titled  to  the  Peninsula  or  Waterloo  medals^ 
W,  O,  Letter  with  Chelsea  Records.) 

ed  he  received  2/.  \2s.  9d.  prize-money. 
le  not  found  on  prize  rolls. 

3  44.  "  Geeran  married  in  Gibraltar  when 

thirtr-live." 

\e  stated  that  he  was  thirty  years  old  when  he 
Hded^  this  would  bring  tJie  date  of  maiT'iage 
fear  1801. 
n  1798  to  1805  the  list  tvas  not  stationed 

Great  Britain. 

[EF  DISCREPANCIES   IN   GEERAN'S   STORY. 

stated   that  he  joined  the   7l8t  in  1796, 

tut  to  India,  and  was  at  Seringapatam  May 

). 

71*^  left  India  in  October^  1797,  and  arrived 

>olwich  AuguM  12,  1798.     From  that  time 

1805   tlui    regiment   loas  not   out   of  Great 

1. 

stated  that  in  1801  he  was  in  Egypt,  and 
3  went  out  with  Sir  Dennis  Pack. 
Tlst  was  not  in  Egypt  at  all.     Sir  D.  Pack 
>t  but  of  Great   Britain  from  1800  until 

^Msusty  1805,  the  71st  went  to  the  Cape 
i  Hope.  From  there  the  regiment  sailed, 
^06,  to  Buenos  Avres.  The  whole  were 
►i-isoners  August,  1806,  released,  and  re- 
bo  England,  Dec.  1807. 
-^11  this  was  important  service,  yet  Geeran 
t.  mention  one  word  about  it. 

ci  he  received  prize-money  and  medals. 

*  not  an  prize  list  or  medal  rolls. 

^  he  was  wounded  at  Salamanca. 
^8^  was  not  at  Salamanca. 

^   in  one  place  he  received  a  bullet  or  two 
^<:»dy  at  Waterloo. 

*  in  another  part  he  escaped  tlirough  Waterloo. 


JOUX  HEYWOOD  AND  GEOFFREY  CHAUCER. 

Has  it  ever  been  noted  that  in  Heywood's  in- 
terlude of  "  The  Pardoner  and  the  Frere  "  ( W. 
Kastell,  April  5,  1533),  reprinted  in  "  Four  Old 
lUays,"  G.  Nichols,  Cambridge  (United  States), 
1848,  p.  89-128,  he  has  quietly  incorporated  into 
his  Pardoner's  first  speech,  as  his  own,  lines  49- 
100  of  Chaucer's  Pardoner's  Prologue,  only 
changing  a  few  words  ?  Can  you  make  room  for 
the  quotation,  so  that  your  readers  may  judge  of 
the  old  epigrammatist's  cribbing  for  themselves  ? 
I  italicise  the  words  that  Heywood  has  cbanged^ 
p.  94-7  for  Chaucer's  of  like  meaning : — 

*•  But  first  ye  shall  krutwe  well  y*  I  com  fro  Rome, 
Lo  here  mv  holies  all  and  some  ! 
Our  lyepelorde  seale,  here  on  my  patent, 
I  bere  with  me  my  body  to  warant, 
That  no  man  be  so  bolde,  be  he  preest  or  clarke, 
Me  to  dysturbe  of  Chrystes  holy  warke  .  .  . 
Fyrst  here  I  shewe  ye  •  of  a  holv  lewes  sbepe 
A  bone  :  I  pray  you  take  good  kepe 
To  my  wonles,  emdmarke  them  wdll 
Yf  any  of  your  testes  belyes  do  swell, 
Dyppe  this  bone  in  the  water  that  he  dothe  take 
Into  his  body  ;  and  the  swtllyinge  shall  slake. 
And  yf  any  worme  haue  your  beestes  stonge, 
Take  of  this  water,  and  wasshe  his  tonge, 
And  it  wyll  be  hole  anon,  and  farthermore, 
Of  pockes  and  scabbes  and  euery  sore 
J/e  shall  be  quyte  hole,  that  drynketh  of  the  well 
That  this  bone  is  dipped  in  :  it  is  treuth  tluU  I  telL 
And  yf  any  man  that  any  beste  oweth. 
Ones  in  the  weke,  or  that  the  cocke  croweth, 
Fastynge  wyll  drynke  of  this  well  a  draagbte, 
(As  that  holy  Jew  hath  vs  taught,) 
II is  beestes  and  his  store  shall  multeply. 
And,  maysters  o/Z,  it  helpeth  well  [ielonsy]  ; 
[For]  Thoughe  a  man  be  foulet  in  ielous  rage. 
Let  a  man  with  this  water  make  his  pottage. 
And  neuermore  shall  he  his  wyfe  mystr^^st, 
Though  he  in  sothe  the  faut  by  her  wyst, 
Or  had  she  be  take  witli  freres  %  two  or  three. 

Here  is  a  mytten  eke  as  ye  may  se  ; 
lie  that  his  ha'nde  wyll  pat  in  this  myttayn. 
He  shall  haue  encrease  of  his  gra^'n 
7'hat  he  hath  sowne,  be  it  wete  or  otys. 
So  that  he  offer  pens,  or  elLle]s  grotes.  §  .  .  .  . 

But  one  thyng,  ye  women  allf  I  warant  you  I 
Yf  any  wyght  be  in  this  place  now. 
That  hath  done  eyn  so  horryble  that  she 
Dare  not  for  shame  thereof  shryucn  be ; 
Or  any  woman,  be  she  younge  or  olde. 
That  hathe  made  her  husbande  cockolde, 
Suche  folke  shall  haue  no  power  nor  no  grace 
To  offer  to  my  relykes  in  this  place. 
And  who  so  fyndeth  her  selfe  out  of  suche  blame, 
Com  hyiher  to  me,  on  Crystes  holy  name  !  *' 

F.  J.  Ftjbnivall. 
P.S._On  a  second  look  at  the ''  Four  Old  Plays,^^ 

*  Chaucer  uf  cofirse  did  not  use  ye  as  an  accosative. 

t  fallen. 

I  As  Hey  wood's  Pardoner  is  preaching  against  a  rival 
Friar,  he  changes  Chaucer's  "  preestes  "  to  "  freres." 

§  Here  Heywood  puts  in  some  other  chaffing  relics : 
"th< 


le  blessed  arme  of  swete  saynt  sonday,"  **  the  great  too 
of  the  holy  trynyte,"  **  our  lady's  bongrace"  (sunshade); 
♦•of all  helowea  faaiots]  the  blessyd  jaw  bone,"  and  ""* 
saynt  Myghell  the  brayn  pan." 


of 


178 


NOTES  AND  QUERlii.o. 


I  see  that  it  is  edited  by  "  F.  J.  C."  who  must  be 
my  friend  Prof.  F.  J.  Child,  of  Harvard ;  and  that 
of  course  he,  as  a  Chaucer  scholar — a  rip^ht  jrood 
one  too — has  noted,  at  p.  2(^,  the  source  of  Hey- 
wood's  lines ;  but  probaoly  few  English  readers  are 
aware  of  the  fact. 


<'Atrt  Suell":  "Comus,"  Line  231.— I  have 
always  understood  this  phrase  in  the  exquisite 
aong — 

''  Sweet  Echo,  sweetest  nvmph,  that  liv'st  unseen 
Within  thy  airy  shefl  "— 

to  mean  the  aerial  vault,  the  canopy  of  heaven,  as 

the  poet  says  in  the  hymn  inserted  in  the  ode  on 

the  Nativity  (101)— 

"  Nature  that  heard  such  sound. 
Beneath  the  hollow  round 
Of  Cynthia's  scat,  the  airy  region  thrilling." 

In  a  pretty  little  school  edition  of  the  poems, 
however,  published  last  year,  and  edited  by  lie  v. 
H.  11.  Iluckin,  a  note  on  the  passagfe  appears  to 
assume  that  Milton  meant  to  con  tine  tne  term 
'•'  airy  shell ''  to  the  concha  or  testiulo.  "  Hence," 
says  the  editor,  "  he  represents  Echo  as  living  in 
such  a  musical  shelly  which  sent  back  the  notes 
which  it  received." 

This  seems  a  ludicrously  unworthy  idea.  Music 
proceeds  from  the  (eaiudo,  but  Echo  ^wlio  is  daugh- 
ter of  the  Air  and  Tellus)  repeats  its  closes  from 
her  lofty  cloud-vault.     She  is — 

"  Vocalia  Nvmphe,  qu.T  nee  rcticere  loqucnti, 
Nee  prior  ipsa  loqui  didicit,  resonahilis  Echo  " 

(Ovid,  Met.  iii.  359); 

but  is  changed  by  Juno — 

"  et  in  aera  succus 
Corporis  omnis  abit,  vox  tantum."  (397.) 

I  am  sorry  that  I  have  no  standard  Milton  at 
hand.    What  does  Mr.  KEionxLEY  say  ? 

Pelagius. 

Defende.  —  This  is  another  of  those  words 
which  in  the  process  of  time  has  undergone  an 
almost  entire  change  of  meaning.  By  writers  of 
the  fourteenth  and  fifteenth  centuries  it  seems  to 
have  been  used  in  the  sense  of  to  forbid.  Thus  in 
The  Story  of  tJic  Holy  Rood,  lines  207  and  208 
(E.  E.  T.  S.,  1871),  we  have  — 

'*  To  saue  man  saules  he  sail  be  send, 
And  all  fals  trowth  he  sail  defende." 

Edmund  Tew,  M.A. 

English    PnYsrciANS    in   Switzerland. — It 

ought  to  be  generally  known  that  in  the  Canton 

de  Vaud,  Switzerland,  British  physicians  are  not 

■*   ♦^  nractise  amongst  the  lilnglish  resi- 

-:«or  ,^,1  examination.     As 

■'"*-:*oin  will 


have  a  Swiss  doctor,  with  whom  they  frequently 
cannot  converse,  from  not  knowing  the  language. 

The  Swm  Times  has  had  some  strong  remarks 
on  the  illiberal  conduct  of  the  Vaudois  authorities 
and  their  doctors ;  however,  it  seema  to  me  that 
a  journal  like  ^'N.  &  Q.,"  which  has  so  many 
M.D.s  amongst  its  contributors,  is  the  beet  medium 
for  bringing  this  matter  under  public  notice.* 

An  Ekolishjuv. 

Montreux,  Vaud. 

Play  the  Bear. — I  believe  that  this  expres- 
sion has  not  been  noticed  in  the  '*  Proverbs  and 
Phrases  '*  that  have  appeared  in  "  N.  &  Q."  In 
the  speech  of  the  vicar  of  Leamington,  as  reported 
in  the  Leatnington  Courier,  Feb.  10,  I  find  that 
Mr.  Craig  made  the  following  remarks :  — 

**  There  are  two  kinds  of  children.     There  an  tbe 
children  of  Bethel  and  tbe  children  of  Bethavcn,  uA 
when  Bethel  became  Bethaven,  the  hoiue  of  Grod  beciiM 
the  house  of  sin.    I  mean  to  say  this,  that  on  that  oed' 
sion  the  children  came  forth  and  exhibited  indignitjT  ^ 
the  person  of  the  prophet  and  derision  for  hia  doetiiaCi 
They  exhibited  derision  for  his  doctrine  and  said,* Go 
up,  thou  bald  head,*  because  lie  held  the  doctrine  of  tlM 
ascension  of  Elijah,  and  they  said  it  to  show  their  dial** 
tipect.    From  that  incident  came  the  sentence  of '  playii4 
the  bear '  with  persons.    Because,  when  they  were  tnrM 
to  play  the  bear  with  the  person  and  doctrine  <n  t^ 
prophet,  Elisha  turned  and  looked  at  them,  and  tha  lJ>^ 
sent  forth  wild  bears— she  bears— and  forty  of  tb** 
children  of  Belial  were  destroyed." 

CUTHBXBT  BlD^' 

"  Out  in  the  Cold." — This  expression  has  he^ 

so  often  applied  of  late  years  to  tne  poHtical  paJ^^ 

for  the  time  in  opposition,  that  it  might  be  talc^^ 

to  be  a  modem  invention.     But  Mr.  (H.  iP 

Wyndham,  in  his  remarkable  prefiELoe  to  7^  DU^ 

of  the  late  George  Bubh  Doddington  (Saliaba^ 

1784),  made  use  of  a  similar  phrase  nearly  a  c^' 

tury  ago :  — 

**  If,  on  the  contrary,  )by  unveiling  the  'mysterioni 
tribes  of  a  courts  an^  by  exposing  the  latoit  caiiie0 
opposition,  the  Diary  teaches  lis  that  both  one  and  ' 
other  may  act  from  the  same  interested  and  ooir 
principle,' it  may  then  make  as  caatioosly  diffident 
the  motives  of  either,  and  the  country  genuemen  hi  | 
ticular  may  learn  from  it  that  they  have  as  much  tod) 
from  those  who  are  in  pursuit  of  power  as  from  thoi 
actual  possession  of  it;   from  those  who  are  hope/ 
working  in  the  cold  climate  of  disappointment,  as 
those  who  are  luxuriously  basking  in  the  aonahij 
enjoyment." 

AlEXANDEB  AlTDBI 

Stoke  Xewinffton. 

Oystkks  for  Aistres. — I  have  just  bef 
formed  of  a  very  curious  old  Chnatmas 

*  (In  one  occasion  an  English  M.D.  sabmitte 
examination,  and  was  so  grossly  insulted  that  h 
dii^^ust.    The  examiners  actually  asked  ridicnlo 

tinna     iiaiKfr    aa  tAvf    hnnira    fha    wnrlr*    t%f    oarfj 


4*  S.  IX.  March  2,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


179 


which  was  sung  in  the  streets  of  Frome  only  a 
few  weeks  ago,  nnd  which  is  well  worth  a  note  in 
"  N.  &  Q."  I  haA'e  not  yet  been  able  to  procure 
the  entire  song ;  but  the  fragment  before  me  con- 
tuns  a  remarkable  instance  of  the  persistence 
from  age  to  age  of  old  French  words.  It  relates 
to  the  visit  of  Joseph  and  "  his  lady"  to  Bethle- 
hem, in  search  of  accommodation  in  view  lof  the 
expected  birth  of  the  Saviour ;  and  we  are  told 
that  "  they  wandered  up  and  down  a-seeking  for 
oy$ter$^^  (this  was  the  pronunciation  of  the  singers) 
without  succea«<,  for  "  none  could  be  found '' — a 
result  at  which  we  cannot  affect  to  be  surprised.  On 
hearing  this  singular  word  I  was  for  the  moment 
greatly  puzzled ;  but  remembering  the  old  French 
austre^  meaning  a  fireplace,  hearth — and  remem- 
bering, too,  the  variant  estreSy  passages,  chambers, 
apartments — I  perceived  at  once  that  ''oysters" 
really  meant  aistres  or  efires,  or  in  its  connection 
"lodgings,"  and  the  problem  was  solved.  Now 
the  word  aitres,  denoting  the  rooms,  partitions^  or 
closets  of  a  house,  is  still  in  use  in  the  patois  of 
France ;  but  the  curious  thing  is,  that  the  Somer- 
setshire peasant  has  retained  the  s  which  formed 
part  of  the  original  word,  which  is  now  silent  in 
France.  In  the  form  edrea  it  occurs  in  Chaucer, 
Lydgate,  &c.  J.  Patke. 

Kildare  Gardens. 

Stamp  used  instead  of  the  Sign  Manual 
OF  Henry  VIII. — The  sign  manuals  of  Henry 
VIII.  are  common  enough,  but  I  do  not  remem- 
ber to  have  seen  before  a  stamps  apparently  a 
woodcut,  being  a  prettv  fair  fac- simile  of  one  of 
the  best  of  his  autograplis.  Such  a  one,  however, 
is  now  before  me,  havmg  been  discovered  among 
the  numerous  MS.  treasures  of  the  Baroness  North. 
It  is  on  the  top  of  a  letter  from  the  king  to  Sir 
Edward  North,  and  is  dated  April  3,  35  Henry 
VHI.,  requiring  him  to  furnish  "  xx  hable  foot- 
men, being  determined  to  invade  the  realme  of 
France  this  summer  with  a  royal  army." 

Ev.  Ph.  Shirley. 

Lower  Eadngton  Park,  Stratford-on-Avon. 


HOLYROOD  PICTURES. 

Shaw*8  Ihesses  and  Decorations  of  the  Middle 
Agen  contains  an  engraving  from  a  picture  for- 
merly in  the  royal  collection  at  Hampton  Court. 
It  represents  Margaret  of  Denmark,  queen  of 
James  lU.  of  Scotland,  and  St  Canute.  On  the 
reverse  is  depicted  Sir  Edward  Boncle.  This 
picture,  with  the  companion  one  of  James  IH. 
and  his  patron  St  Andrew — on  the  reverse  the 
Holy  Family — was  exhibited  in  the  Art  Treasures 
ExhibitloD  at  Manchester  in  1857.  At  the  close 
of  the  exhibition,  through  the  enthusiastic  zeal 
of  DsTid  Laing,  Esq.,  U.S. A.,  and  of  W.  B.  John- 


stone, Esq.,  II.A.,  a  memorial,  signed  by  the  Duke 
of  Hamilton,  the  Duke  of  Buccleuch,  the  Lord 
Provost  of  Edinburgh,  and  other  persons  of  dis- 
tinction, was  addressed  to  the  Queen  at  Balmoral, 
praying  Her  Majesty's  consent  to  their  being 
transferred  to  Holyrood  Palace.*  Through  Sir  B. 
Hall,  then  First  Commissioner  of  Works,  Hev 
Majesty  was  graciously  pleased  to  accede  to  the 
request  These  pictures  were  painted  about  1484. 
See  paper  by  D.  Laing,  Esq.,  read  to  the  Society 
of  Antiquaries  Nov.  1857.  They  have  been  attri- 
buted to  Hugo  Van  der  Goes  and  Mabuse.  They 
were  probably  intended  as  an  altar-piece  for  the 
collocate  church  of  the  Holy  Trinity,  Edinburgh^ 
as  Sir  William  Boncle  was  the  first  provost  of 
that  establishment,  and,  as  such.  Queen  Margaret's 
confessor.  The  accessories  are  painted  with  great 
fidelity.  In  a  book  held  by  one  of  the  figures 
the  music  is  at  once  recognised  as  of  that  time* 
In  the  same  work  of  Shaw*s  is  another  engraving 
of  Queen  Margaret,  on  a  larger  scale  from  the 
same  picture,  showmg  the  details  of  the  orna- 
ments. The  head-dress  is  extremely  elegant ;  and 
on  a  gold  band  confining  the  hair,  underneath  the 
rich  coronet  and  cap,  is  ^iven  part  of  an  inscrip- 
tion, which  is  very  plain  m  the  original  picture : — 

PNACN. 

The  lines  over  the  third  and  fourth  letters  are 
detached,  and  appear  to  be  marks  of  abbreviation. 
A  solution  of  these  characters  is  sought  for.  From 
the  fidelity  of  the  execution  of  these  paintings,  it 
is  evident  that  they  have  a  specific  meaning,  and 
that  they  are  not  merely  of  an  ornamental  cha- 
racter. Albert  Buttery. 
Court  of  Chancer>'. 


Ballad.^ — Can  any  one  tell  me  where  to  find 
the  rest  of  this  ballad  ?  I  only  know  the  first 
and  part  of  the  last  verses :  — 

"  Our  king  he  went  to  Dover, 

And  so  he  left  the  land, 
And  80  his  grace  went  over 

Unto  the  Callice  sand ; 
And  so  he  went  to  Bulein, 

With  soldiers  strong  enoufi^b, 
Like  the  valiant  king  of  Cullio. 

•  •  •  •  • 

"  Up  went  the  English  colours. 

And  all  the  bells  did  ring ; 
We  had  both  crowns  and  dollers, 

And  drank  health  to  our  king; 
To  the  Lady  Nan  of  Bulein, 
•  .  .  •  . 

The  bonfires  were  seen  at  Flashing." 

These  verses  were  given  as  a  motto  in  some 
modem  book,  but  with  no  reference  to  where  thej 
came  from.  C.  B. 


•  Histoncal  G 
lished  by  Dancan 


tuidtj  %€.,  Hol)|r<»d.   '^AMC<3rttx^>  -^^ 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIKS. 


Abp.  Blacedgrne.  —  Are  Ibere  livinjf  any 
desoendttDts  of  Lancelot  Machburne,  Archbishop 
of  York  in  1725,  and  who  are  they  ?  B.  W. 

Caxada. — What  French  Canrulian  stntesman 
waa  it  who  dccUrcd  that  the  ^onqut^t  of  Canada 
bT  the  British  had  set  his  coimtrvinen  free  ? 

E.  C. 

Daxforiti.— This  name  ia  bomo  by  one  of  the 
most  re^piTtable  nod  opulent  (^mlvur  fuinilies  in 
Iowa,  V.  S.  (America).  Whjit  i»  tho  meaning  of 
the  word  ?  Iltive  we  any  villotre  or  pldce  sft 
called  ?  Is  the  name  borne'by  nnj  English  fnuiily 
belonging  to  the  Society  of  Friends  ?  The  Dan- 
forths  believe  that  tliey  are  of  English  oripin. 

Jaugs  IIkxry  Dixos. 

Domestic  Chatbls.— Can  you  rcfiT  me  to  any 
list  of  nipdiiuval  residenees  iii,(ireiit  Britiun  which 
hUTB  dooicatic  chapels  attached  to  them^ 

F.  M.  S. 

Sir  Jonx  EtiOT. — In  ChamtiprH'B  Pniirrs  fur 
the  l'eo})ie  there  is  one  entitli'd  "  Cromwell  and 
hie  Contemporaries,"  in  which  tlic  following  sen- 
tence occurs,  marked  as  n  qiiotntinn  from  ono  of 
the  petitions  of  Sir  J.  Eliot :  "  A  little  air,  your 
majeBty.  that  I  may  );ather  atretiirtli  to  din."  I 
can  ne'ither  find  this  in  Eliofs  Lifr  by  Forater 
nor  in  Kufrent's  IlampilfH.  Can  any  of  your 
readers  statu  where  it  may  be  foimd  ? 

KNllUIItEIt. 

Heraldtc, — Can  any  of  your  rpndi'rs  teamed  in 
heratdry  inform  me  to  what  fiimiiies  the  fidlowing 
coats  of  arms  belong  P — 1.  Ar.  on  a  snltire  f^u., 
five  croBs-crnssIets  or ;  '2.  Ar,  on  a  fei^s  dancetto 
aa.  botween  six  croMlets  fitch^e  or,  tliri'O  bezants : 
3.  Sa.  on  a  chevron  or,  butwisun  thruu  grillina 
heads  erased  of  the  last,  lanj^ued  gu.,  tliree  estoiles 
of  the  field.  G.  P,  C. 

HoTcn  Pot. — This  curious  old  term  has  not 
jet  been  touched  upon  in  ymir  interestinjf  papes.* 
I  know  what  Blackstone  and  some  othpra  liave 
written  respectine-  it,  but  there  are  a  few  additional 

Earticulam  that  I  should  like  to  bo  funiislicd  with 
y  the  kindness  of  some  contributor  or  reader 
'■learned  in  the  law."  This  quiTV  is  of  course 
literary,  and  "  without  prejudice  '*'  aa  to  future 
clwma  for  "  six-and-eiKhtpences  "  or  other  sums. 
1.  \^'as  it  ori(rinally  a  lex  tcripia  or  a  Ifx  non 
teripta,  and  in  either  ca.=e  the  date  of  ila  origin  P 
To  me  it  sounds  Uke  Korman- French  or  Anglo- 
Norman,  and  smacks  of  the  feudnl  system,  or 
rather  as  if  enpcndercd  by  it. 

S.  Is  it,  and  if  so  when  was  it,  repealed  or  ren- 
dered inoperative  f  C.  Chaitock. 
Cutis  Brooiwich. 


Inquibitiosks  Post  Mobtsv. — At  wh^  data 
do  they  ceaae,  and  have  thev  been  priatad  and 
published  from  the  ntgn  of  llenrj  \T  P 

ToPOa&APHKR. 

TThe  RoUb  of  Inqniutfons  from  the  3rd  Henry  III.  u 
the  90th  Cliarlo  I.  (wben  tlicy  were  diKOdtiniiBd)  ar* 
dejKHiiled  at  IhaPublio  Record  Office.  Ampla  Olendan 
and  Indicee.  of  a  portion  of  tlicas  records,  have  ben 
printed  by  the  Record  CommiMionera,  under  the  title  ef 
Calrnilariiim  IivpiitUhiiHmjintI  JIfortem  liit  Tii  iiifiii  — 
Ifenrj  III.  fti  Rir/mnI  III..  4  vol*.  1806-lBi«,  fijl^ 
Sims'a  manual  for  the  Gtnalugitt,  ^c,  18G6,  pp.  123-lM.] 

.Tews-harp. — In  Sovlh  Sea  BubtUt,  br  the 
Earl  and  Doctor,  page  ICd,  is  the  oentenre,  *'0m 
man  played  tho  Jew's  (or  jaw's)  harp."  Is  ths 
bint  thus  given  correct,  and  should  Jew's-harp  ba 
jaw's-barp  ?  II.  A.  St.  J.  SL 

[Tho  Jfn-s-harp,  or  Jews-lnimp,  is  a  eorraptiun  of  tb 
Frsnrh  Jen-lnmpe.  iilerally  a  toy  Irampet.  Anolte 
Ptymon  Cur  JeK*-harp  ia  jaws-haiT),  becanae  tho  plie* 
where  it  in  played  upon  ia  between  the  jawx.  The  laU 
llr.  i>ouuo  nlwaye  maintained  that  the  proper  name  of 
this  itvslruRicnt  was  the  jawa-harp,  and  that  the  Je** 
had  no  sjioKJal  corceru  with  either  its  invention  or  iti  ii»e- 
Se«  ^  S.  4  Q."  1"  S.  i.  277,  342.1 

"I,.E0A3fniLiB."  —  Amongst  the  tniracles  oC 
Simon  do  Alontfort  in  the  one  wrought  on  Osbef* 
(iiflard  —  long  troubled  with  fevers — to  who'**- 
Simon  de  Montfort  appeared  in  a  dream,  and  b»<3^ 
liim  nut  on  the  "  legambilem  "  which  Osbert  C5  '^~ 
fnrd  nad  from  him  in  war.  His  semtnts  found,  f^ 
nniongst  bis  armour  at  his  bed's  foot.  He  put  *J 
on,  and  was  healed.  What  was  the  "legambUi»  'J 
'riiB  miracle  is  in  Rishangrr  (Camden  Society 
publications).  U,  ^^— 

"Neo  bkse  rEciT.KEc  tlux  pbcit,  bed  lai^^ 
fEciT." — In  the  unfortunate  Mr.  Watson's  — *" 
mirablo  Life  uf  I'ortim  occurs  the  followi-*^ 
passage  ;— 

"  Uiny  sayinirs  have  been  attribated  ta  Pomni  C'' 
are  not  liis.  Wo  have  >rcn  the  pannini;  obecrratioiK  ' 
ItruluH  killing:  Cour,  'Xec  bone  fecit,  nee  nuie  ftdt,  ^ 
mlcr/tcil,'  aBrril>ed  to  him.  when  it  in  eertalulv  not  ^ 
In  Charloa  l>liilli[«'(i  Ilfcollectiou  of  CVrmn  aidkin  C> 
trmpnnirirt  it  i*  attributed,  with  as  Utile  gnnind  we    ■ 


Nrvison  thk  Ilro^wATiCAir. — I  have  raatf 
to  believe  that  a  Lifa  of  Xmtim  was  publitb 
^oon  after  his  eiecutian  (probably  at  York), 
which  the  small  chap-book   editions  publut 
during  the  last  century  were  only  abndgniai 
I  should  like  to  ask  any  of  your  readera  who 
i;ollectors  of  this  kind  of  liteiature  the  datt 
apparent  date  of  their  earliest  £t/a  afltirviaam 
possess  two  editions  printed  about  1790,  aacli  \ 
ing  a  London  imprint,  "  for  tha  bo^asUan^" 
ao  doubt  printed  at  Yo^  as  thaj  agma  ia 
and  paper  with  the  earlier  jrnilnfilln—  cf  tte 


4*  S.  IX.  March  2,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


181 


lieigate  Press.  I  should  add,  tbat  I  have  con- 
sulted all  the  bibliographical  authorities  and  the 
catalogues  of  the  British  Museum,  and  that  I  am 
acquainted  with  tlie  correspondence  about  Nevi- 
8on  which  has  from  time  to  time  appeared  in  your 
columns.^  C.  E.  B. 

Paitade  or  Pavade.— In  Chaucer*8  "Reeve's 
Tale,"  the  K»eve  describes  the  Trumpington 
Miller  as  havirj<r  by  his  bolt  "a  long  panadey 
This  word  Spt*<rht  spells  pavade,  and  glosses 
"  puffiOf  a  daggar,  baslard."  Cooper  gives  "  J^u^/io, 
a  dagger ;  Ihtyitincidusj  a  shorte  dagger,  a  poyne- 
adow."  Colgrave  has  "  Poujnardy  jn.  A  Poinadoe, 
or  Poniard."  Boquefort  has  **  Vanart :  espece  de 
ffrand  couteau  u  deux  taillaus."  Can  "panade" 
be  the  Early  English  form  of  "poniard'  ?  The 
Piers  Plowman  kar/l^ncet/  is  undoubtedly  the  French 
caiilouet,  a  very  sweet  pear.     (Cotgrave.) 

F.  J.  F. 

QcoTATioxs. — Can  any  kind  reader  point  out  j 

the  original  source  of  the  following  lines  P — 

*'  Yc^tenliy's  over  and  gone, 
To-nit)rn)W  may  never  arrive  ; 
To-;lay  we  may  count  as  it  flies. 
For  it'3  all  wc  can  reckon  upon." 

J.  Perry. 

"V\'Tiere  can  I  find  the  following?     I  want  to 
Verify  it  as  a  motto  tor  a  treatise  on  fishing. 

"  Hoc  accipe  carmen  : 
Carmen,  quod,  tenui  dura  noctit  arundino  linum, 
IHscator  loLcat ;  et  scopulo  snspiret  ab  alto.'' 

J.  II. 
Stirling. 

rSee  Acta  Si/nceri  Sannazarii  Ncapnlitnni  riri  Patrieiu 
^'-cloga  Prima,' Phyllis,  Hue  101,  edit.  Patavii,  1719,  4to.] 

'Where  can  I  find  and  who  wrote  a  poem  whicli 

Commences,  as  far  as  I  recollect,  as  follows'P  — 

**  There's  weepinc  by  Enijland's  hundred  streams, 
On  Severn,  Thames,  and  Trent ; 
And  o'er  the  graves  of  the  slaughtered  braves 
The  Queea  of  the  Seas  ia  bent." 

B.  M. 

\\^here  is  the  line  — 

"  Like  the  sunnv  side  of «  Catherine  peach." 

G.  K. 

'^'he  foxf?love  which  Tom  stays  to  pop, 

'though  bis  mother  has  sent  him  fbr  bread  to  the  shop.** 

James  Brittex. 

X*LT7BALS. — What  is  the  plural  of  "  titmouse  " 
^^  of  "  dormouse  '*  ?  The  second  syllable  of  these 
^^^8  has  nothing  to  do  with  a  mischieyous  little 
^^*admped,  but  in  the  first  is  the  A.-S.  mase,  Du. 
?•«•,  Ger.  meise,  parus,  tomtit ;  and  in  the  second 
^  I^Ut  of  the  French  word  dormeuse — that  is,  souri 
^»»i«ii«.  Should  we,  therefore,  say  titmouses 
**^  dormauses,  or  tit^  and  dor-mice  f 

R.  C.  A.  P. 


^L-'^-^r'*^''  OF  168& — ^Bishop  Btiniet evoked 
^^  wtinitioii  of  Parliasieiit  by  puUiahiiiir  a 


toral  letter  asserting  the  right  of  William  and 
Mary  to  the  throne  6y  conquesty  and  Charles 
Blount,  the  author  of  Janus  Scientiannn,  issued  a 
defence  of  the  Revolution  under  a  similar  plea..  • 
Has  this  theory,  which  makes  the  first  and  third 
Williams  both  victorious  invaders^  and  therefore 
entitled  to  the  subjects'  allegiance,  been  taken  up 
and  advocated  by  any  modem  writer  ? 

Wm.  UNDBRHrLL. 
Kelly  Street,  Kentish  Town. 

[Some  notices  of  the  theorj'  propounded  bv  Charles 
Bluunt  and  Bishop  Burnet  will  be  found  in  Lord  Macau- 
lav's  History  of  England^  ed.  ISoo,  iv.  354-302  ;  and  in 
"  N.  &  Q."  l-»  S.  vui.  625 ;  2''«*  S.  i.  21.] 

Society  of  Ancient  Deists:  Spibittalism 
IN  1780. — In  Re  id's  Rise  and  Dissolution  of  the 
hifidel  Societies  in  this  Metropolis,  Loud.  1800, 
there  is  an  account  of  "a  kind  of  infidel  mystics/' 
calling  themselves  Ancient  Deists,  who  met  at 
Hoxton  between  1770  and  1780.  Their  meetings 
appear  to  have  resembled  the  seances  of  more 
modern  times,  for — 

"  The  faculty  of  foretelling  fhturo  events  was  insisted 
upon,  the  discernment  of  spirits,  by  the  physio«Tnomy, 
the  voice,  the  gait,  &c.,  together  with  the  possibiliry  of 
conversing  with  departed  souls.  In  fact,"  continues 
Reid,  "  these  pretences  Vere  carried  so  far  that  any  visitor 
not  in  the  habit  of  hearing  supernatural  voices,  or  not 
informed  of  the  common  occum^nces  of  the  day  by  the 
ministration  of  angels,  would  have  bet'n  treated'  as  a 
novice  and  a  disciple  of  the  lowest  form." 

I  remember  hearing  that  Thomas  Taylor,  the 
Platonist,  was  a  member  of  this  society.  ■  Is  any- 
thing further  knovni  of  it,  and  did  they  publish 
anything  ?  C.  Elliot  Bbowne. 

"Tavole  Moderne  di  Geografia." — I  have 
in  my  possession  a  work  bearing  the  following  title : 
Tavole  Modeme  di  Geografia  de  la  Maggior  parte 
del  Mondo.  It  contains  a  hundred  and  one  plates, 
consisting  of  maps  and  representations  of  sieges, 
battles,  and  remarkable  events :  inter  aUa,  of  the 
battles  of  Lepanto  and  Navarino,  the  taking  of 
Boulogne  and  Calais,  the  sieges  of  Thionville 
and  Malta,  and  the  eruption  of  Monte  Nuovo. 
The  plates  bear  dates  ran^ng  from  1545  to  1573, 
that  of  Great  Britain  being  15G2.  Can  any  of 
your  readers  giv*  mo  information  as  to  this  book, 
its  rarity,  price,  &c.  ?  Makcus  B.  Uuish. 

22,  Old  Square. 

TuDOR  House  at  Wimbledon. — There  is  an 
old  house  at  the  entrance  of  Wimbledon  which 
has  for  some  forty  years  been  used  as  a  school, 
and  which  is  a  Tudor  construction,  though  a  good 
deal  altered  in  recent  years.  As  the  original 
builder  or  possessor  of  it  is  not  known  locally,  I 
should  be  glad  of  your  assistance  in  tracing  them, 
which  can  probably  be  done  through  the  coats  of 
arms  which  adorn  certain  very  elaborate  ceiling«» 
The  dexter  half  of  the  shield  has  three  fleors  da 
lys  on  the  upper  part,  and  an  eagle  displayed  an 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4">  8.  IX.  UtmcH  2,  7*. 


the  lower.  The  aioiBter  halfhas  querterlj — 1  and 
4  a  lioQ  rampant,  2  nnd  3  what  appear  to  be  tWD 
fishes  erect,  connected  together,  and  facing  eadi 
other.  There  is  a  tradilion  of  Anno  of  Clevea 
hftring  lived  at  Wimhiedon.  la  anything  in  theau  ' 
arms  connected  with  her  P  E.  F.  D.  C. 


Ulva  LATIS81MA.'— May  I  refer  W.  (1.)  tc. 
Science  Ooetip  for  February,  p.  41,  with  a  view  t.i 
ascertaining  from  him  whether  this  plnnt,  fhetn 
mentioned,  ia  the  one  which  to  hia  knowledge 
was  "  preserved  and  eaten  "  ?  Your  readers  may 
like  to  Know  that  at  the  pace  cited  there  is  given 
"  a  copy  of  the  seal  of  the  Dorough  of  Liverpool, 
circa  1350."  jASiEa  Ebittek. 

British  Uiuenni. 

"Wooden  Nutmegs."— Can  any  one  inform 
me  where  I  c*n  find  a  certain  coniic  story  called 
"  Wooden  Nutmega  "  'i  I  helieve  it  ia  by  Judne 
llaliburtun.  C.  A.  UuiLfiR. 


conrederate  (for  this  method  requin 
somB  juffllera'  tricks) '  Number  oiM.' 
tuld  ■  second,  inlikemuiner  ssy, '  Nxmbir  t 

moment  his  third  story  

cry  (0  your  ftiend.  *1  trouble  you  lot  Che  «.    

You  see  I  wss  right  when  I  betted  that  he  would  td 
-■- ■■ -ee  stories  exactly  in  that  order  in  the  first  IwwtT 

after  bis  airival  in  the  room.'     Depend  apOQ  U 

■n  utt-r  ihm  " 71    IS 


confedentei,  lika 

^s  soon  as  ha  hat 

■  Periu^ 

stops.    Ifnot,  the  niy 

itory  is  told,  Isugh  out  quits  loud,  ana 


—p.  16. 


O'DOHERTY'S  MAXIUS. 

(4'"  s.  viii.  eia.) 

Your  correspondent  O.  is  evidently 
that  these  witty  and  sagacious  aphorisms  have 
been  published  in  a  separate  form : — 


The  rule  for  stopping  &  punster 
Maxim  TiiiLir>. 


animal.    He  should,  tlierefort 


t  inroi 


immediate]  V  i: 


rt  of  discODifiling  a  punster  is  this :  I'retriid  to  be 
cdf  i  and  after  he  has  committed  hia  pun,  and  Just  befute 
e  expects  people  to  laugh  ac  it,  leg  his  pardon,  and 
-iiuest  him  to  repeat  it  again.  After  yon  have  made 
ini  do  this  three  time3,>ay'0!  thnt  ia  a  pun,  I  believe." 


Utile  I 


pes 


n  proper 


e,  the  I 


luugh 


It  will  be  seen  from  thia  that,  in  the  caac 
alluded  to,  the  instructiona  of  Sii4Iorgan  were  not 
adhered  to,  and  that  consequently  he  is  not  to  be 
blamed  for  the  failure  of  the  experiment.  Neither, 
too,  are  we  to  find  iault  witk  his  rules,  if  we 
adopt,  for  the  nxlinction  of  one  class  of  vermin, 
tho  means  which  he  suggests  to  rid  us  of  the 
members  of  a  ditTerent  species  altogetlier.  It  is 
to  silence  another  guess  sort  of  dining-out  hore 
that  the  worthy  baronet  indites 
BIaxih  Eioutm. 
"  A  story-teller  is  so  often  a  mighty  plea.unt  fellow 
that  it  may  be  deemed  a  dilBcuIt  matter  to  decide  wbe- 
ther  he  ongbt  to  tte  stopped  or  noL  In  cose,  however, 
that  it  be  required,  far  the  best  way  of  doing  It  ia  this  : 
After  he  has  discharged  bis  first  tale,  say  across  to  some 


I  The  punster's  successful  oppoeition  to  the  means 
I  so  imperfectly  used  by  G.  s  friend  to  annihilate 
him  reminds  me  of  what  Swift  (P)  c&lls  "The 
Brazen-head  Rule,"  which  ia,  he  says : — 

"When  a  Punster  stands  bis  Ground  sgaiest  a  whole 
Company,  tho'  there  is  not  one  to  side  with  him,  to  the 
utter  Destruction  of  all  Conversation  but  his  own— a 
for  Instance— Says  onf^  1  hate  a  Pun—then  be,  Wtai 
a  I'UN  is  meant,  is  it  a  PuniiAneiiC  f  Duet  (aka  yow 
quibbling — Sir,  J  uiifl  luit  ball  you  an  ace  j  Cinqoe  ■•>  &l 
<!..,  aad  ni  mutt  you  i«ow  that  I  am  a  Sios  lAmt  jva. 
This  Fellow  cannot  talk  out  of  his  £7efflai<.— Todivwtyw 
was  ull-I-Bieaiil.-~7'At  ^rt  «f  PHfiniKg  :  or.Uu  Ftrnt 
•ifljmsuasa,  ta  Sevtuly  H/ine  RultM.  For  Ae  FkiOk 
JiRptoanmt  of  CoNVBiiSATiUN.  and  llilp  of  HsMoai- 
Jly  tiK  Labaur  and  Indattry  i/Toii  Pus-SiBi,  4tlni 
London,  1719,  small  Svo,  p.  19. 

WlLLIAU  BaXES,  BJL 
Birmingham. 

WICKED ;  MECHANT. 

(4'"  S.  viii.  514.)  • 

The   origin  of  wicked  is   very  ofaTious.    It  » 
simply  the  passive  participle  of  mcc- ' 
witch,  enchant,  deceive.     A  wicked  i 


lore,  la  one  who  is  possessed  by  the  nuill 
abandoned  to  it,  without  the  power  of  res 

The  French  equivalent,  mickani,  at&rti  from  ■ 
ditiurent  idea,  and  opens  up  i  much  mon  ezltih 
sive  inquiry. 

The  prefix  mit  or  mi  is  derived  bj  Bncbtt 
{Dictionnau-e  eli/mobgiqtie,  1670)  from  Lat  mmmt 
contracted  in  Provencal  into  men*,  in  Hiddb 
b'rench  into  mim,  mit,  met  and  tni.  So  wkm 
/failure,  to  fall  short,  to  happen  tmfortuiuttely,  1»* 
flame  nu-ec/ieoir ;  meacheance  or  mescAonM,  mioDF- 
tune.  Aa  misfortune  and  crime  are  too  often  COr 
aectcd,  mischenitirn  came  to  mean  a  delinqiuiHiVf 
breach  of  law ;  mid  metchant,  wicked,  impioii^ 
naughty,  had. 

Pursuing  tho  subject  a  little  furtlier,  it  will,  I 
Chiuk,  be  found  that  Brachet  is  in  error  in  deiiT- 
ing  the  prefix  viis  or  mi  exclusively  &om  L^ 
minus.  It  is  so,  doubtless,  in  many  instancM;  but 
there  aro  others  in  which  it  is  evidently  K  COB- 
traction  of  tnale.  Miiavoir,  a  menlinTal  tenn  fir 
HvdtraUer,  ia  &om  male-hahert.  Miprmtdr*  if 
employed  indifferently  with  mo^tmnAw.  In  wnw 
cases  there  is  a  double  deriv^on.  '     '~ 

descended  from  miaug-faa 
MfcottteiU  ia  iron 
content  ts  &odi  mai&«mtmU». 


4«»  S.  IX.  March  2,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


183 


Here,  however,  we  enter  upon  another  phase  of 
the  inquiry.  In  Enji^lish  and  Gennan  the  prefix 
miss  or  mis  is  employed  in  a  parallel  sense  with 
the  PVench  mSs,  This  particle  is  purely  Teutonic, 
having  the  primitive  sense  of  "going  wrong"; 
but  in  many  cases  in  English  it  is  extremely  diffi- 
cult to  determine  whether  it  is  of  native  origin 
or  derived  from  the  French. 

We  have  many  English  words  derived  from 

Latin  —  such    as  invi-fortune,    mis-conceive,  ?;iw- 

calculate^  &c. — in  which  the  Teutonic  prefix  has 

been  applied  to  a  foreign  derivative.  As  a  general 

rule  it  will  be  found  that,  where  the  body  of  the 

word  exists  in  English  in  a  separate  form  whence- 

soever  derived,  the  prefix  mis  is  of  native  origin ; 

but  where  this  is  not  the  case,  both  word  and 

prefix  are  imported.     Mis-creant,  for  instance,  is 

ultimately  derived  from  the  Lat.  minus-credere, 

through  the   French  mSscreanL     As  the  word 

creant  does  not  exist  in  English  in  a  separate  form, 

tbero  is  every  reason  to  suppose  that  miscreMnt 

baa  been  adopted  in  its  entirety.    We  have  then 

the  smgular  phenomenon  of  two  words  meaning 

pearly  the  same  thing,  misbeliever  and  miscreant, 

y  which  the  same  prefix  is  derived  from  two 

^fferent  sources:  piisbeliever,  meaning  one  who 

^Ijeves  wrong;    miscreant,  one  who  does  not 

•^lieve  at  all — though  the  latter  word  has  now 

^me  to  mean,  in  common  parlance,  a  scoundrel. 

A  curious  fact  may  be  alluded  to  in  connection 
^th  this  subject.  There  are  many  words  in 
Italian  with  the  prefix  mis  having  the  same 
^^  as  the  English  fnis,  as  miscadere,  to  happen 
^luckily;  misavventuray  a  misadventure;  mis- 
^,^1  to  slander ;  mis/are,  to  do  wrong.  Of  course 
^^  prefix  is  not  derived  from  England,  nor  is  it 
*^«ly  from  Germany  direct ;  nor  does  it  appear  a 
powible  contraction  of  either  tnale  or  minus,  the 
J|*lian  not  lending  itself  so  readily  as  the  French 
•^  this  manipulation.  It  is  most  probably  owing 
^  the  influence  of  the  Gt)thic  and  Lombard  con- 
J'iwors  of  the  fifth  to  the  seventh  century.  Missa 
^  Gothic  has  the  same  meaning  as  miss  in  Ger- 
^  and  English  —  e.  g.  missadeds,  missdeed; 
'?'*^/a»,  to  do  evil.  There  is  a  larger  infu- 
*^n  of  Teutonic  influence  in  Italian  than  is  gene- 
^y  supposed.  J.  A.  PiCTON. 

^yknowe,  Wavertree,  Liverpool. 


"OLD  BAGS." 


(4"»  S.  viii.  passim;  ix.  84, 130.) 

^^  without  doubt,  had  "  bag-like  cheeks, 
^^  hung  down  rather,"  but  it  ill  accords  with 
Jj^»ttiibttte«  of  "the  first  gentleman  in  Europe  " 
ff^^,  ^  firaming  a  nickname  for  his  fnend 

fi5!lL?*^''JB®"^'"^  deformitjr.  Moreover, 
^^Jpntliimflelf  liad  a  drapery  face;  and  it  is 
^  w  inugiiie  that^  poBseasiDg,  as  he  also 


i  did,  an  exquisite  desire  to  qualify  any  inelegance 
I  of  contour,  he   derived  the  appellation  from    a 
source  which,  developed,  would  unfold  the  re- 
posing festoons. 

No,  Mr.  Editor,  your  concluding  conjecture  in 
your  starting  page  (104),  thajt  the  Great  Seal  bag 
was  his  source  of  "  Old  Bags,"  is  confirmed  by 
the  august  authority  of  the  Princess  of  Wales 
and  the  Princess  Charlotte.  For,  extending  J.'s 
quotation  from  Brougham's  vividly  pictorial  nar- 
rative of  his  second  dinner  in  the  Conuaught  Place 
drawing-room,  while  EUenborough,  his  chief,  and 
his  other  noble  and  royal  superiors  were  dinner- 
less  in  the  dining-room,  you  have — 

**  I  said  a  word  for  EUenboroagh  as  my  chief,  but  iu 
vain.  They  "  (the  Priuceases)  "said  he  may  remain  a» 
well  as  Old  Baggs.  When  Leach  was  named,  they" 
(the  Princesses)  "  called  him  *  Ridicule,'  *  Reticule,^  or 
Little  Baggs." 

Now  Leach,  be  it  remembered,  was  not  bag- 
cheeked,  did  not  bag  papers  home  to  intercept 
his  opera  partialities,  and  did  not  hoard  money- 
bags, but  ne  then  was  C%cf/?cc^/or-designate,  m 
succession  to  embryo- Judge  Adam,  of  the  Regent's 
Cornwall  Duchy,  with,  incident  to  his  elevation, 
a  dwarfed  Great  Seal  in  a  little  bag,  which  "  Mrs. 
Princy "  and  "  Miss  Princy,''  in  the  sparkling 
humour  of  the  scene,  likened  to  the  reticule  which 
ladies,  in  homage  to  the  then  fashionable  slinmess 
of  their  figure,  had  always  gracefully  pendent  on 
their  arm. 

The  turkey  was  not  alone  the  subject  of  suc- 
cessful domestic  manipulation  in  the  Eldon  house- 
hold, for  it  used  to  be  amusingly  said  that  when 
my  lord  had  the  occasional  privilege  of  bringing 
a  friend  home  to  dinner,  a  turbot  was  not  unfre- 
quently,  by  my  lady's  thrift,  split  in  two,  and  the 
finned  surface  feasted  the  guest,  and  on  the  fol- 
lowing day  the  lower  stratum  feasted  the  family. 

Your  reporters  of  "  The  Chancery  Suit,"  who> 
call  Leach  s  speech  tcrofiff,  cannot  be  right,  be- 
cause they  thus  pronounce  the  very  judgment 
which  Eldon,  on  account  of  his  doubts,  postponed, 
and,  by  all  accounts,  never  suiiicicntly  made  up 
his  mind  to  deliver.  John  Pike. 


AusTEiAN  Polish  Women  weasing  Wigs 
(4**»  S.  ix.  50,  130.)— A  long  note  by  me  on 
"Plica  Polonica''  will  be  found  in  «N.  &  Q." 
4'**  S.  vii.  639.  It  may  there  be  seen  why  the 
Polish  women  wear  wigs.  It  is  not  the  disease 
which  causes  the  wigs  to  be  worn,  but  the  wigs 
give  rise  to  the  disease,  if  "Plica  Polonica" 
(which  in  its  ordinary  uncomplicated  form  *  is 
nothing  more  than  an  artificially  induced  matted 
and  felted  state  of  the  hair)  can  be  called  a  disease. 

*  It  may  be  accmnpamed  hyi  a  disease  of  the  scalp, 
bat  this,  according  to  1>t,  BErenspmng,  is  neither  osoal 
nor  necessary. 


184 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4A  S.  IX.  BCabck  %  *? 


I  fear  the  very  copious  indices  to  '*X.  &  Q." 
arc  not  suiliciently  consulted ;  else  I  should  not 
have  had  to  write  this  note.  No  one  should  write 
to  '*  N.  &  Q/'  without  first  consulting  its  indices, 
unless  indeed  he  Las  not  the  opportunity.* 

F.CnAXCE. 

Sydciibam  Hill. 

Loi^OEviTY  (4"*  S.  ix.  30.) — The  instance  of  I 
longevity  mentioned  by  Mr.  Uandolvii  is  pn>-  . 
bably  an  example  of  what  has  t»o  often  puzzled  , 
bepinners  in  archft'ology.  The  earliest  parish-  , 
register  in  almost  every  church  commences  with  : 
n  portion  copied  from  some  earlier  book  now  lost.  , 
This  C()]»ied  pi^rtion  is  alway.s  sij^ned  by  the  in-  | 
cumbent  in  wlio.se  time  it  was  made.     Thus  at  ■ 


^'To  PLAT  Hrll  and  Tommy  "  (P^  S.  ix.  118,) 
t.  c.  Hal  and  Tommy,  is  to  behave  as  Hany  tlie 
Eighth  and  Thomas  Cromwell,  Earl  of  Esaez,  the 
vicar-general,  behaved  towards  the  roonABteriefl, 
at  the  time  when  Henry  and  his  faithful  Thonuu 
dissolved  those  institutions.       J.  H.  L  Oaklet. 

MaDchester. 

We  have  discussed  "  Hal  and  Tommy  "  already 
in  "  N.  i^  Q.,''  and  an  attempt  was  made  to  refer 
them  to  Henry  VIII.  and  Tnomas  Cromwell,  as 
now  to  I  lenry  II.  and  Piecket.  Is  not  "  II — 1  and 
I) — n  mo  "  a  likelier  origin  for  this  vulgar  phnn 
than  anv  we  shall  lind  in  historv  H  P.  P. 

•  wr 

[See2n«*S.  xii.  167,  332.J 


D-  I.      1  4.\  4.  ^     e  'l>'^      1   II    1      I      Tub  IIundkeds  of  FELnoRonon,  Wtb,  bic 

Bwhopsbome  tb<,  signature  of  Uuhard  Jlookor     ^    ,  g  ^.^j;  540.)-If  Waltdeop  will  look  to  th. 
occurs  for  many  years  before  the  date  at  wbicb  be  |  ^^^^  ^^^.^^  of  Uasted  (vol.  i.  p.  cxtI.),  h»inSl 

iind  an  explanation  of  his  difficulty.    Lambird^' 
on  Feb.  17,  151)0,  classed  the  four  hundreds  ia 
question  as  part  of  the  lathe  of  Scray.    In  1778 
Hasted,  when  treating  of  that  lathe,  says — 


actually  became  the  parish  priest.  Many  similar 
examples  are  known,  and  have  been  noticed,  if  I 
mistake  not,  in  "  N.  &  Q.''  There  is  notiiini^ 
extraordinarv  in  tlie  Essex  incumbent'."*  haviuij: 
signed  the  rejristers  of  ninety  years.        W.  J.  L. 

1*i:ll  Ixscriptioxs  (4'*'  S.  ix.  ry,\.)  —  In  giving 
you  the  in.scriptions  on  the  belli*  at  Passenham,  I 
ought  to  have  given  a  description  of  the  dniwings 
on  tlit»m.  No.  .*J,  between  the  letters  IJ .  I'V  ,  is 
an  oblonpf  plate  with  three  bells  engraved  on  it, 
with  a  kind  of  thread  running  through  them  atid 
imitiiig  tlicm ;  they  are  in  the  position  of  an  an'^le, 
one  at  the  top  ami  two  at  thi»  nolloni  of  the  plate. 
On  bell  No.  4,  lj:'t'jre  the  commencuuR'nt  of  the 
inscription,  is  a  crown  of  live  p.^iuts.       1).  C.  E. 

South  ljir>ttd. 

Bows  IX  IjjNXKTs  (-!''' S.  ix.  .*i7.)  —  Ibcs  not 
the  rule  tliat  married  ladies  wear  thrir  ornaments 


«  T!ie  hundreds  of  Calehill,  Chart  and  l/>nKbiidf^  f^ 
lioro,  niul  Wye,  coininonly  called  the  Fonr  Uupdifli* 
onco  bt>lon^(Hl  to  this  Latli;  but  they  have  bceaalMlS 
whil>'  si'vcpmI  from  it,  and  added  to  the  Lath  of  Ship'    , 
Wiiv." — Vol.  i.  p.  cxvi. 

W.  A.  S.  B. 

?N  i:l>4ox's  Pcnctualitt  (4**»  S.  ix.  56.)-;-TI»^ 
olrcunistance  is  mentioned  in  Southey^s  JJfo  ^f 
y^'/'^on,  IV'fore  leaving  London  to  jom  the  ibiK 
Victory,  then  in  Port«<mouth  Harbour,  and  >bDt>^ 
to  .<ail  for  the  Mediterranean,  &c.7-8hortly  brfui^| 
the  battli!  of  Trafalgar — Nelson  bad  ordmd ' 
niture  to  be  sent  to  his  rooms  in  IMccadilly. 

upholsterer  promised  to  send  it  on  a  certaia 

•         J  '11      lit      1  ^"^  1  'J 


had  a  Hower  put  in  my  hair  on  the  left  side  be- 
cause of  its  being  less  well  done  than  the  other, 
my  maid  told  mo  at  night  that  Lady  I).*s  maid 
had  remarked,  *OIrs.  L.  has  her  llower  on  the 
wrong  side  of  her  head :  being  a  married  huly  she 
should  wuar  it  on  the  right."  ll.  L. 

Rev.  Mr.  Moultrie  (4»»»  S.  ix.  118.)— In  the 
Biotjraphical  Dictionary  of  lAciny  Author.^  I  lind 
the  author  of  tlie  comedy  Fahe  ami  True  entered 
as  the  Km'.  Mr.  Moulton,  and  described  as  of 
Cambridge.  I  can  find  no  such  name,  however, 
in  the  list  of  (.-ambridge  graduates,  nor,  indeed,  is 
there  but  one  Moultrie  iu  the  list  (published  in 
I82.'i),  the  late  Kev.  John  Moultrie,  who  obvi- 
ously cannot  be  the  author  of  a  play  published  in 
17i)8,  as  he  only  took  Lis  I  J.  A.  degree  iu  182:J. 
No  Moulton  or  Moultrie  is  in  the  list  of  Oxford 
graduates.  C.  T.  B. 

[  •  A  valuable  suggestion. — Kd.] 


Duke  of  Wellington,  deemed  punctuality  to  \i^ 
necessary  iu  the  business  of  life. 

CiuuCoaa 

Seals  of  Oliver  Croxwrll  (4*^  S.  ix.  IICV-^ 
IJeferring  to  "  N.  &  Q.**  (2-*  S.  xii.  375),  "Ob  A^ 
1  se  of  Latin  in  Public  Documents,'*  I  perarare  tMr 
in  describing  the  line  large  wafer-seal  on  a  Latf^ 
letter  of  Oomweirs  to  the  King  of  Fimnee,  MA 
June  10,  lr».5S  (three  months  before  hia  deatii)| I 
omitted  the  word  "  Protector "  after  OLIYABITI' 

DEI  :  (iRA  :  REIPVD  :  AlTGLI.fi  :  SCOTIiB  :  BT  HlSn* 

Ni.i:,  ETC  :  PROTECTOR.  ThiB,  I  suspect,  M.*^ 
privy  seal  engraved  by  Vertue,  the  ongiDsl  diAfl» 
which  was  then  in  the  possession  of  Mr.  Tk.  YvH^ 
man  of  Chelmsford.  Speaking  of  (MiTer  Giuuiwrili 
I  liave  a  curious  document^  of  BineteaB 
entitled  — 

**  A  mort  Leaned,  OoDseieiitioii^  and  Diffoal 
ciAe,  or  S«rmon,  held  forth  the  last  Lurf  Dysfi 
in  the  Year  1G49,  at  Sir  P.  T.*ft  hmm  fa  ~ '     ~  ^ 


4*  S.  IZ.  Habcb  2. 73.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEfilES.  . 


Elddi,  bf  Liealeaant-GeneTal  O,  Cramwell.  As  it  wa& 
ftitliiallv  taken  ia  CbaracMn,  bj  Anm  Giurdon.  I<dq- 
don:  Pmted  by  J.  Bradford,  in  Nsvil's  Alley,  FeWei- 

Tbe  tost  being  Rom.  xiii.  1,  which  lie  calls  "  a. 
mslignaikt  one."  In  fact,  lie  there  saya  of  him- 
self:— 

"  Well  then !  Yon  see  who  are  fittest  to  interpret,  unci 
I  ptemime  you  believe  God  hath  obundanllv  anpplied  me  ; 
I  do  not  txiaat  of  it.  but  I  speali  it  to  his  Glory  that  bath 
Touchoafed  to  take  up  hia  Lodi^ng  in  bo  vile,  contenip- 
tibJe,  unswept,  nnwashed,  ungamiihed  a  Room  aa  ia  this 
imirarthr  Coltage  of  mine  ;  llul  it  was  his  Will,  and  1 
am  thankful  fat  it.'' 

Who  was  this  Aron  Guerdon?  and  who  was 
Sir  P.  T.  ?  P.  A.  L. 

I>£Eit  raEB  IX  Sacrifice  (4"'  S.  ix.  117.)— 
Thid  skuil  waa  most  likely  that  of  a  hunted  buck, 
thronn  ioto  a  rubbish  hole  in  the  clilf.  Souc 
yeare  ago  I  picked  up  one  amongst  the  earth 
excavated  from  an  old  drain  in  P.adley  Park, 
Berks,  where  deer  were  formerlj  kept.  It  had, 
no  doubt,  been  part  of  the  rpjetlamenta  of  the 
kitchen  of  P^dley  House,  perhaps  a  century  ago — 
a  body's  head,  minus  the  antlers,  being  a  thing 
of  no  worth.  W.  J.  BBKSiiiED  Smith. 

Ttmple. 

Buck  Riis  (4"'  S.  ix.  1^7,)— If  a  parajirafih 
in  relation  to  black  hqow  will  be  of  any  eeryice  in 
this  ijuerv,  I  have  pleasure  in  giving  this  following 
cutting  rf  ora  Charlex'e  Wain,  March  22,  1870 :  — 

"Black  snow  ii  reported  bv  Mr.  Felt!,  of  Arloveti, 
SoMii,  Co  liaVG  fallen  on  Jan.  31,  between  two  and  f.mr 
•eWk  in  the  afternoon.  The  earth,  he  slates  in  a  com- 
"    '  Mimdn,  was  covered 


I  pro    corpusculi    proportione    ma^us,   rotunilas    durua. 

'  MsgDa  arteriie  ventn.t  coeliacie  pulsatio.    Apntilla,  tatius 

I  corporis  mncies,  faciei  color  obsoletns,  ad  icierum  virgin- 

!  eum  dispoiitio  propinqaa,  imo  ejus  non  leve  jirincipium. 


Here  follow  t] 
III 


afxll 


black iih-coionred  snow,  to  whicl 

•^iwKl  matliT  bv  filtration.  It  had'all  the  appciranee 
«lbtUack  noil  found  in  the  neii;hbourlioo<l.  Tu  thenorth- 
*■*  If  Arlovetz,  whence  the  wind  blew,  the  blackness 
'■■ill  deeper,  and  in  the  opposita  direction  the  reverso 
*^  the  Pise.  Mr.  Felti  estimates  that  no  1e<s  than 
W|MO  litos.  of  earth  was  carried  by  the  snow  fi,r  n  coii- 
■WUe  distanre.  This  feet  may  be  worth  the  Pin^idcr- 
■W  of  geolneisM,  as  it  may  g>™  tliem  s  hint  as  In 
*<|Mr  niflcle  (in  aililiiion  to  those  alreiily  lecognlsed  by 
'^)  in  which  strata  may  be  lieposilsd. 

"  E.  D.  H." 
Thos.  Baiclute. 

Toe  Pkhjcbss  Elihabeth  (3^  S.  x.  372,  420.) 
W  Theodore  Jlayemo,  court  physician  in  the 
1^  of  James  I.  and  Chnrlea  I.,  and  who  at- 
Jwed  the  princess  in  her  last  illness,  baa  left  tbe 
^ilofing  record  of  her  symptoms  in  his  Bpheme- 
"fa  Morborum,  now  Sloano  MS.  2075,  p.  28  :— 

'Kadpim  Elizabctha  Anglis,  12Hir.  1G49.     (Mo- 


"Wiboi  lieni 


aplenit) 

admodum  obnoxia,  t 
patriF,  Can" 


si&ir; 


,  aliquid  patiehator 
re)^  decollali  30 
sntem,  unde  aacta 


I  remedies  resorted  \a 


{V  S.  ix.  118.)  — Tin  foil  may 
he  uaed  for  this  purpose,  but  is  not  so  ?ond  as 
alumioium  as  prepared  (for  the  use  of  dentists  I 
believe)  bya^ewYork  firili,  whose  name  I  am 
now  unable  to  give;  the  article,  however,  is  no 
doubt  known  in  the  profession  which  I  linvc  in- 
dicated. Gko.  C. 

Perhaps  platiwt-foil  would  answer  the  purpose 
of  P.  M.  S.  It  ran  be  obtained  in  sheets  wonder- 
fully thin.  Pktina  is  a  metal  which  does  not 
tarnish,  being  not  in  the  least  degree  atlucted  by 
damp  or  heat  B.  Si.  J.  13.  Jovlk. 

Southport. 

".\s  STBAianT  AS  A  Die"  (4""  S.  ix.  110.)  — 
The  conjecture  about  this  saying  bavin;;  reference 
to  tbe  way  in  which  a  die  does  its  work,  is  a  cor- 
rect one.  There  are  several  variations  of  the 
thmsc :  "  .-Vs  clear  as  a  die,"  "  As  clean  as  a  die," 
cing  the  best.  I  have  been  accustomed  to  hear 
other  synonymous  terms,  such  aa  "  As  clean  aa  a 
whistle,"  and  "  As  clear  as  a  bell,"  which  are  in- 
tended also  to  illustrate  things  which  have  been 
neatly  and  well  dene.  Taos.  Katcliffe. 

Is  not  and  never  hua  been  the  correct  pbra'e. 
A  dii',  according  to  any  dictionary,  "  is  a  stamp 
u»ed  in  coining  money,''  and  must  of  nei-eaiity  Iw 
round,  Th«  correct  term  is  "*«  ItTel  na  a  die," 
and  simply  has  referonce,to  the  nicety  and  exact- 
ness observed  in  fixing:  the  die  in  the  sl.impin}f- 
mnchine.  C.  CnATTocK. 

Caitic  Bromnicli. 

This  old  phrase  is  asually  applied  to  a  verj-  dis- 
tinct, clear,  and  inevitable  course  of  aclii^n,  and  ia 
derived  from  the  "straight,"' true,  and  ir^iulaled 
descent  of  a  "  die  "  by  the  old  method  of  stnoiping 
Dietiil  before  tbe  screw-press  came  into  such 
general  use.  The  weighted  die  was  su,o|v-nded  to 
the  end  of  a  rope,  and  worked  in  a  guiding  frame 
of  wood,  erected  over  the  block  in  which  the 
companion  die  was  iixed.  The  descending  die 
was  .tecured  in  the  centre  of  the  wooden  guides 
by  means  of  an  iron  frame  of  suitable  form, 
having  a  projection  at  each  aide  which  ran  in  n 
groove  in  each  of  its  wooden  vertical  sides.  The 
rope  was  of  suitable  length,  according  to  the  dia- 
tance  of  fall  necessary  to  attain  the  required  foi-ce 
or  blow  of  the  die,  and  had  a  stirrup  attached  to 
the  other  end.  This  rope  worked  over  a  pulley 
at  the  top  of  the  framework.  A  stamping  ma- 
chine of  this  kind  was  generkl^  worked  by  two 


186 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


I'i^  S.  IX.  Mabgu  2,  *72. 


men,  but  could  be  worked  by  one  only.  It  usually 
bad  a  pit,  or  lower  level  tban  the  surface  of  the 
workshop  iloor,  in  which  one  workman  sat,  whoso 
business  it  was  to  place  the  unstamped  metal  and 
remove  it  when  stamped.  The  moveable  die  was 
worked  by  the  other  workman,  the  "stamper" 
proper,  wno,  by  placing  one  foot  in  the  stirrup, 
brought  his  whole  weight  to  bear  upon  the  die  by 
descending  into  the  pit  at  the  side  of  the  machine, 
or  from  a  platform  above  the  level  of  the  floor  to 
the  lioor  only ;  thus  raising  it  to  the  required  height. 
When  the  metal  to  be  operated  upon  was  pro- 
perly placed,  the  "  stamper  "  leapt  from  the  lower 
level  to  the  floor,  or  from  the  floor  to  the  raised 
platform,  and  the  "die"  descended  "straight" 
upon  the  metal  to  be  impressed  or  cut  out.  I 
may  remark  that  this  system  was  in  very  general 
openUion  in  the  manufacture  of  fine  steel  orna- 
ments during  the  last  century,  and  for  other 
analogous  purposes  during  tlie  first  half  of  the 
present  century,  and  may  even  now  be  seen  in 
operation  in  some  manufactories  in  Birmingham 
and  Wolverhampton  in  the  stamping  of  brass, 
iron,  and  tinned  ware. 

"As  lercl  as  a  die"  is  a  similar  and  more 
modern  phrase,  which  has,  no  doubt,  grown  out 
of  the  more  ancient  one ;  and  applies  to  tlie  neces- 
sity for  the  dies  used  in  the  screw-press  being 
perfectly  horizontal,  as  also  parallel  to  each  other. 

Gkorge  Wallis. 

South  Kensington  Museum. 

Dorsetshire  Ti  am  milk  (4***  S.  viii.  415,  485 ; 
ix.  85.) — Mr.  C.  G.  J.  IwEEVe  is  particularly  un- 
happy in  his  last  communication  under  this  head. 
When  I  argued  that  rammilk  was  but  another 
name  for  raw-milk,  I  did  so  without  having  any 
defined  information  to  work  on,  and  I  used  the 
term  "  raw  material "  merely  as  a  convenient  mode 
of  expression.  I  have  since  ascertained  that  in 
Dorsetshire  "  rammilk "  means  raw  milk,  and 
further,  that  "  vinid  "  means  "  sour."  As  regards 
tlie  latter  word,  I  will  refer  Mr.  Heeve  to  F.  C.  XL's 
and  J.  Lewis  0.  Davies's  contributions  thereon 
in  support  of  the  above,  simply  adding  that 
"  vinid  cheese  always  goes  sour  before  turning 
blue,  and  that  the  epithet  as  applied  to  a  child 
bears  the  same  meaning.  If  Mr.  Ueeve  will  read 
Shakspere  carefully,  he  will  find  that  a  man  may 
not  be  out  of  humour,  and  still  be  "not  i*  the 
vein."  Whoever  heard  of  a  child  being  said  to 
be  "  not  i'  the  vein  "  ?  But  perhaps  Mr.  Keeve 
knows  some  peculiarly  precocious,  as  well  as 
"  vinid  "  youngsters.  In  conclusion,  Mr.  Reeve's 
Anglo-Saxon  inference  does  not  appear  to  me  to 
have  eufiicient  "  weft"  (to  use  a  Lancashire  word) 
in  it  to  be  worth  much  consideration. 

JuNii  Nepos. 

Round  Towers  of  Norfolk  (4"»  S.  ix.  130.) 
See  Gent.  Mag.  Nov.  18C4,  p.  COO.    The  reason 


of  their  form  is  said  to  be  the  scarcity  of  building 
materials  suitable  for  corner-stones.  With  six  or 
seven  exceptions,  they  are  all  within  the  limits  of 
the  Saxon  kingdom  of  East  Anglia,  in  or  near  the 
great  chalk  and  flint  district  shown  on  the  geo- 
logical maps.  J.  T.T. 
Ilattield  Hall,  Durham. 

"Whether  the  Prejudices  ik  favour  op 
Gold,"  etc.  (4'»'  S.  ix.  139.)— The  quotation  from 
Bishop  Berkeley  is  Query  430  of  "  The  Quexist^" 
Berkeley's  WorJcs.  vol.  iii.  p.  391.  (Ozfordy 
1871.)  W.  F.  B. 

Windsor. 

This  quotation  will  be  found  in 

*'  A  Miscellany  containing  several  Tracts  on  varioBS 
Subjects.  By  the  Bishop  [Berkeley]  of  Clo^Tie.  ^leoige 
Faulkner,  Dublin,  1752." 

I  add  another  quotation,  p.  177 : — 

**53l.  Whether  our  prejudices  about  gold  and  dwr 
are  not  very  apt  to  infect  or  misguide  our  judgments  and. 
reasonings  about  the  public  weal  ?  " 

LiBXB. 

Saulies  (4}^  S.  ix.  140.)— This  word  may,  Kl 
think,  mean  the  woollen  fringe  bound  roBod  ^^ 
rope,  by  which  it  can  be  more  lirmly  grasped,  attS- 
this  would  be  useful  in  lowering  a  cofiin.  In  Sed— • 
fordshire  the  word  is  "  sally,"  and  is  used  in  othft^ 
phrases  in  connection  especially  with  bell-rinrii^-' 
The  sally-beam  is  a  beam  at  some  distance  0<V 
the  floor  through  which  the  bell-rope  is  passed  tO 
steady  it.   It  is,  I  suppose,  so  called  becauBe  th^ 
"sally  "  never  passes  oe^ond  it.   Again,  tjie  iwiK* 
of  command  is  often  given,  "  Set  next  sallVf''  <^^ 
"  Chauge  next  sally/'  meaning  that  the  bells  IP^ 
to  be  rung  round  once  and  then  set  or  changed. 

W.F.B. 

Windsor. 

The  former  of  these  terms,  as  given  by  Jamift^ 
son\s  Etijmological  Dictionctry  of  the  ScaUiA  Lt»^ 
gtiagcy  is  "  a  hired  mourner,  one  who  walks  x«* 
procession  before  a  funeral  company  ";  but  whether 
the  word  be  derived  from  sal = black,  or  firom  iod^ 
old  Scotch  for  soul — my  conjecture  being  that  ^Sb0 
saulies  in  former  times  may  have  chant^  prayei^ 
for  the  soul  of  the  departed — I  do  not  undeittfc^ 
to  determine.  Of  the  two  derivations,  howev«> 
I  prefer  the  latter. 

As  to  "  gumpheon,"!l  am  at  a  loss  to  throw  as/' 


lij^ht  upon  the  word.  The  root  is  possibly^  ^ 
p/«c=  rueful,  stupid-looking.  ^'GumpleHbosd'' 
(Jamieson)  =  having  a  dejected  countenance.  ^ 
may  remark  that,  if  tne  office  of  "  gumpheon  men' 
be  in  any  way  cognate  to  that  of  the  saulies^  ^ 
"  dejected  and  rueful "  countenance  is  an  adimP^ 
ably  correct  description  of  them. 

James  Niohoi**'- 

I  was  not  aware  that  these  terms  oocnff^^ 
in  English  funeral  ceremonieB.    No  fiqgliik 


4*  8.  IX.  Much  !,  '7!.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


187 


tioDary  to  vMcli  I  have  bccebb  contBins  tbem,  dov 
ftrethej  to  be  found  in  Hitlliwell,  but  in  Scotlai:>I 
thej  aie  well  known.  "  Saulies  "  are  hired  mut«b- ; 
I  aiwaja  conBidared  the  word  derived  from  th,- 
Latin  iolor,  but  Jamie^on  says  it  is  "from  tlic 
repetition  o!  Salee  Hei/ina."  "Ouaipheon  men" 
are  of  the  same  class;  being  those  who  carried 
the  "  gumpheoDB  "  or  funeral  flaga.  Thia  name  j~ 
probably  a  corruption  of  gonfalon  or  gonfanoit, 
gonfalon  being-  from  the  French  or  Italian,  and 
goHfanon  {ue^  bj  Chaucer)  from  the  Saion  gtitK- 
ftma.  "  Snulie"  is  in  ordinary  use  at  the  present 
day  ;  "  gumpheon  "  is  not  bo  common,  but  Sii- 
Walter  Scott  has  it  in  Gvy  Mannering. 

W.  T.  M. 
Shinfietd  Grove. 

Li-'foTJiSTic  CniLDREs  {4'"  S.  ix.  118.)— Kisu 
-^11  tind  an  interesting  chapter  on  the  Bubject  tn 
■which  hia  query  refers  in  -ilr.  Thomas  Prender-  I 
past's  Mntlery  of  Lnngtiagei,  published  by  Bentlev  ' 
10  1864.  GOET."    ' 

IsscBiPiioss  IS  Old  Books  (3°''  S.  iii.  424.1  ! 
In  4'"  S.  lii.  125,  epeaking  of  "While  Bird  , 
Feitherlesfl,"  mention  is  made  of  the  works  of  the  ' 
celebrated  Lilio  Qregorio  Giraldi  of  Ferrara,  where  i 
ha  Was  horn  in  1479,  and  died  in  1553.     He  had  ■ 
ary  under  the  poatifi-  ' 
was  pflFBocuted  for  hie 
writings.     In  the  year  of  his  death,  the  ilhistrious  ' 
Olympia  Morata,   writing   from   Schweinfurt   to 
•ilentine  Carchesio,  says  of  him:— 
'' I  shnnld  be  happv  too  to  obtain,  thtou^'h  j-ou,  news. 
"|,»nc  leani»cl  fri»nd  Lilio  (jregorio  Giroldi.     Is  he  still 
•|i"!  ?  Ik™  he  eojov  the  light  of  the  sun  ?    Prsv  salute 
un  in  mv  ..n....    K..I    .(..  ^1  ...rh.  -/..»  I...  .  ^^^  .,1.1... 


I  possess  his  Historian  Ihelanmi  tarn  Grcecorum 
J*"m  Laliaorum,  Dialogum  decern,  &e.,  Baeileae, 
1545,  with  marginal  notes  by  Ph.  Melanchthon, 
«ii  dedications  by  him  and  other  wvam.  I 
'""scribe  them  as  they  atand  in  the  book  :— 

'M«lio£  Polyp.  L  i.  lib.  vji.  c.  ii.  s.  i.  p.  3^1.  OmneB 
"^''•l^deunito  stadio  et  labore  sua  Lilius  Grecor;  Gy- 
?*!•>  fruditissimna  et  infeliciMimus  vir:  t|ui  Lnculen- 
™P^  tt  omni  eiuditione  retectoa  de  Poitis  Grwiis  et 
!*i»»  dislogOB  composuit  A»  lo46.  Basil.  Inveoiea 
■w-  Gtt:  Jph;  Vossij  Jndiiiara. 

u  rluno  K.  et  Clarissimi  viii  pceptoris  9ue  unice 
■*■■«  1,1).  Jnhann.  Msjoris  Joaohimi. 
DuotMonCorf 


Si" 


Vive 


isLytho- 


1  Moning.      .       . 
V7WI1110  Hoffmano  dono  dedit. 
>  iwwwjirio  D.  ZachariiB  Johannes  Texiori 
"jKeoua  bunc  librB  Id  signQ  perpef'  amnria  1 
■^"Ssinhorto  AngelicoAn-JiOiJti.     Idibua  Slartis." 

P.  A.  L.  I 
J[p  Eri.  Kiks  (i"-  S.  ii.  138.1— Our  clumsy  , 
f^  MsndBring  of  the  name  Erl-kimig  is 
''*W|bl8  for  the  perplexity  of  the  late  Mr. 


Hobertson  and  of  W.  M.  T.  ErU,  in  German, 
is  the  fdder-tree ;  and  the  Erl-  or  Erlen^ktmig  is 
.  the  "king  of  the  alders,"  or  the  " alder- king." 
,  The  French  translate  it,  more  intelligibly  than 
I  ourselves,  as  "le  roi  dea  aunes." 
I  Haw  thia  particular  tree  came  to  be  personified 
into  a  deity  in  the  old  Scandinavian  mythology, 
cannot  perhaps  be  known ;  but  of  the  fact  there 
I  can  be  no  question,  and  indeed  the  whole  force  of 
Goethe's  famous  ballad  depends  on  the  know- 
,  ledge  of  it.  The  child,  ridmg  behind  hia  father 
I  through  the  wintry  forest  at  night,  sees  by  the 
I  gleams  of  the  "flying  moon"  the  hideous  naked 
.  branchea  of  the  trees  stretching  t«warda  him,  and 
his  childish  fancy  suggests  that  the  "  alder-king  " 
ia  seeking  to  snatch  him  from  his  father's  graap. 
At  the  end  of  the  long  ride  the  child  is  dead — 
preaumably  of  terror.  Alfred  AcaoEB. 

Oxford  and  Cambridge  Club. 

The  literal  meaning  of  Erlsakaiiig  ia  '''alder- 
king."  The  vapoury  emanations  from  the  alder- 
trees,  as  seen  at  night,  superstitious  fear  elevated 
ipto  phuntoms,  out  of  wnich  shadowy  malSriel 
the  Erlenkonig  woa  created.  W,  M,  T.  errs  in 
lupponing  that  the  distinctive  title  of  his  ghostly 
[uaiesty  is  absent  from  the  German  dictionary. 
In  Turner's,  published  at  Leipsic,  in  Frank  Wil- 
liams's, very  recently  issued,  and  doubtless  in 
many  others,  Erie  appears  with  its  meaning  Mder) 
attached.  More  than  twenty  years  ago  I  coa- 
tributed  to  a  monthly  magazine  a  translation  of 
Goethe's  ballad.  I  will  not  inflict  the  entire 
verMon  on  "  N.  &  Q,,"  but  give  the  opening  verses 
by  way  of  further  illustrating  this  reply ;  — 

"  Who  rides  fo  late  across  the  wild  7 
Tbe  fatber  with  bis  dailing  child.' 
His  arms  the  young  one's  waist  enfold. 
He  shields  him  from  the  piercing  cold. 

"  '  My  son,  why  hide  thy  face  with  fear  ?  ' 
'  Father,  tbe  Alder-King  is  near, 


'Xay.b 


William  Gaspet. 


PERSECirnON    Q¥    THE    HEATHENS    (4'*    S.    is. 

118.)^Th6  horrid  story  of  the  murder  and  muti- 
lation of  Hyputia  is,  I  think,  a  sufficient  answer  in 
the  affirmative  to  this  query.  She  was  assuredly 
II  Pagan  martyr.  '  W.  J.  BerhhaED  Ssiith. 

Temple. 

PlEBiLDic  (4""  S.  \x.  138.)— I  think  the  anna 
referred  to  by  R.  M.  D.  is  the  coat  of  Loredani, 
:i,  Venetian  family,  thus  blazoned  in  a  MS.  in  my 
possession  of  the  arms  of  the  nobility  of  that 
riipublic:  "P'  fess  or  and  azure,  sii  ouatrefoils 
not  roses]  counterchanged.     Loredani. 

Ev,  I'n.  Shirley. 
Lower  EiUngton  Piik,  Stratford-on-Avon. 


188 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4tb  &  IS.  March  2, 7S. 


Mtfinwy  (4**»  S.  ix.  138.) — The  derivation  of 
this  beautiful  old  Welsh  nnme  appears  to  be  from 
ftumipj/  =  iine,  rare,  exquisite,  and  the  possessive 
pronoun,  prefixed  in  its  old  uninflected  form,  my 
(now  fi/).  This  prefix  would  necessitate  the 
mutation  of  the  initial  consonant  of  nianwy  tof, 
and  so  vwfamcy  would  bo  obbiined  =toy  rare  one, 
my  exquisite  one — a  fitting  name  for  the  famous 
ancient  Welsh  beauty.  CrMBO. 

Dinningham. 

ItuBENs's  "  Susanna H  and  the  Elders  "  (4'^  S. 
ix.  139),  engraved  by  Paul  Pontius,.  Lucas  Vos- 
terman  (the  elder),  Michael  Lasne,  Christopher 
Zegfaer  (on  wood),  Peter  Spruyt,  and  others,  is  at 
Munich.  Siret,  in  his  Catalogtui  compkt  des  ccuvres 
cannues  de  Hubens,  moJies  mention  of  several  other 
paintings  on  the  same  subject,  one  of  which  is  at 
Potsdam.  G.  M.  T. 

Time  Imsiemorial  (4*^*  S.  ix.  140.) — In  a  case 
in  the  nisi  prius  court  at  Derby,  some  time  ago,  I 
heard  the  judge  (the  Lord  Chief  Baron)  propose 
two  questions  to  the  jury  to  guide  them  m  tneir 
decision.  I  only  heard  the  concluding  remarks 
of  the  learned  judge  in  summing  up  to  the 
jury;  but  as  the  case  was  important,  the  ques- 
tions were  written  down  by  him.  The  point  at 
issue  appeared  to  bo,  whether  certain  customs  or 
usages  nad  existed  from  time  immemorial  or  not  P 
One  of  the  questions  was  proposed  in  some  such 
terms  as  these :  — "  Are  you  of  opinion  that  the 
right  of  road  has  existed  for  a  deiinite  number  of 
years,  or  from  time  immemorial,  that  is,  from  the 
time  of  Richard  1.  ?  If  the  latter  (or  the  former), 
your  verdict  must  be  for  the  plaintift*  (or  de- 
fendant)." Edwaud  Collett,  M.A. 

Fcnton,  Stoke-on-Trent. 

If  J.  S.  Udal  will  turn  to  the  word  "  Memory" 
(time  of),  in  the  index  to  Blackstone's  Common- 
tariesy  he  will  be  directed  to  the  page  wherein  is 
given  the  authority  for  the  statement  that  the 
reign  of  the  first  Richard  is  the  date  fixed  by  the 
law  as  that  of  '^  time  immemorial." 

Noell  Radecliffe. 

"Progress,"  etc.  (4*^  S.  viii.  3G9;  ix.  26, 
103.)— W.  T.  M.  will  bo  ^rlad  to  leara  that  I  have 
a  person nl  knowledge  of  IJunsinnane,  and  that  my 
references  to  it  were  transposed  by  a  slip  of  the 
pen.  But,  as  I  was  simply  illustrating  a  remark 
on  the  word  "progretis,"  my  illustration,  as  such, 
Lj  not  atl'octed  by  tliis  circumstance.  W.  T.  M. 
seema  to  fall  into  the  curious  mistake  of  suppos- 
ing that  I  was  discussing  the  chronological  order 
of  a  local  name  in  the  tragedy  of  Macbeth^  and 
therefore  there  is  no  necessity  for  my  doubling 
after  him  when  he  goes  oil*  at  a  tangent. 

As  regards  "  Trafalgar,"  any  other  word  simi- 
larly circumstanced  would  equally  well  have 
illustrated  my  meaning  without  involving  a  criti- 


cal discussion  of  the  word  itself.  Apart  from  ihi% 
I  am  not  a  convert  to  W.  T.  M.^  ideaa  on  Byron's 
use  of  "  Trafalgar  " ;  but  this  is  not  to  the  point, 
which  latter  is  the  word  '*  progress,"  and,  as  I  do 
not  icare  about  the  discussion,  I  may  say  in  the 
words  of  the  same  noble  poet  *^  There  let  it  /ay  "  t 

Miss  Edgewoetii  (4«»»  S.  viii.  451,  567;  ix, 
101.) — I  am  acquainted  with  the  volume  spoken 
of  by  Thus  as  "  a  deeply  interesting  memoir,  and 
possess  also  another  work  of  precisely  the  same 
size,  and  not  less  interesting,  entitled— 

''Letters  from  the  Abbd  Edgeworth  to  his  Friflndtv 
written  between  the  Years  1777  and  1807;  with  Memdn 
of  his  Life,  ineludin^^  some  Account  of  the  late  Roman 
Catholic  Bishop  of  Cork,  Dr.  Moylan,  and  Lctten  to  him 
from  the  Hi^rht  Hon.  Edmund  Burke  and  other  Pennas 
of  diittinction."  By  the  Kev.  Thomas  K.  England.  Lon- 
don :  Longmans  1818,  8ro. 

WiLLLiM  BaTSS,  BJL 
Birmingham. 

TxvASiox  OF  Switzerland  by  thb  Enolde 
(4*'»  S.  ix.  14i;.)— I  beg  to  call  attention  to  M 
error  in  this  statement  The  wife  of  Edward  UL  , 
was  rhilippa  of  1  lainault.  His  daughter  Isabella  ^ 
was  the  wife  of  Euguerrand  de  Coucy,  created  hf  ■* 
Edward  Earl  of  Bedford.  From  this  connectio^M 
an  army  of  English  volunteers  6000  strong 
to  the  assistance  of  Enguerrand  in  the  war  bet 
hi  in  and  Leopold  IL  (his  cousin)  about  the  je^ 
1-375.  Coxe's  IliHory  of  the  House  of  Audnt  E 
my  authority  for  this  date. 

The  story  of  William  Tell  is  surely  dated  ittk^ 
period  of  the  tirst  resistance  offered  by  the  >^ 
public  of  Switzerland  to  the  House  of  Autn* 
during  the  reign  of  Albert  I.,  about  the  yearldOBf 

id  to  it  in  Bnaiiell'* 


at  1(  ast  that  is  the  date  assigned 
Modern  Europe, 


A.& 


"  En'gland  ExrECTS  EVERT  Man,'*  btc.  (4*  8[ 
ix.  1:50.)— Nelson's  celebrated  signal^  «Eiiri»* 
expocts  every  man  to  do  his  duty,"  is,  I  belief^ 
exjictly  correct.    I  was  bom  at  Bumham  in  IfflT* 
folk,  and  knew  the  Bolton  family,  and  had  aii^ 
a  long  yarn  from  Old  Tom  Allen,  Lord  NeSiQiV 
bumpkin  of  a  valet.     I  knew  also  the  danghfal^ 
'*  Horatio,"  left  as  '^  a  legacy  to  the  ooanteai?'   > 
knew  also  slightly  the  late  Captain  Paeeo^vhi^ 
said  it  more   than    once    in  my    preaenoe  thifr 
the  celebrated  signal  was  as  your  corre^MHidfli^ 
Hkrdrrt  UANDOLPn  puts  it.    To  thifi,  howefVy 
I  may  add  that  the  word  "  expects  *'  was  sabltK 
tuteit  by  Captain  Pasco,  there  being  no  eigiil 
(if  that  is  the  right  expression)  for  the  BjDOBy^ 
given  by  Nelson. 

I  lived  the  first  twenty-seven  years  of  my  Bf' 
at  Burnham,  and  I  am  sure  that  "to  do"  lathT 
than  ''  will  do  *'  is  what  a  West  Nmlolk  ] 
would  then  say. 

The  "  will  do "  bad  its  Cfngin  and  lutny 


1 


4*S.  IX.  Mabch2,'72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


189 


pression  probably  from  Braham's  soDpr,  tlie  "  Death 
of  Nelson,"  which  to  this  day  I  like  to  sinpr. 

T.  A.  llEADWiN,  F.G.S.,  &c. 
Manchester. 


Protds'CLVlisms  (4***  S.  ix.'llO.) — There  is  a 
misprint  in  my  last  contribution,  which,  I  think, 
should  be  noted.  **  Joy  be  with  you  and  a  bottle 
of  6/a»/' should  be  "a  bottle  of  w/o.<5."  It  has 
since  been  suggested  to  me  that  **  delfoUan  "  was 
a  hurried  way  of  pronouncing  "  day-falling.'*  Per- 
haps this  may  explain  it.  II.  S.  Skinox. 

Beechill,  Londonut?rr>'. 

FiNDERyE  Flowers  (4**»  S.  viii.  passim;  ix. 
23,  80,  149.)— The  story  of  this  flower  is  pretty, 
and  induces  me  to  ask  whether  it  is  not  the  Jeru- 
salem cowslip,  common  in  some  parts  of  England 
Oat  not,  80  lar  as  I  am  aware,  indigenous)  ?  I  a.'^k 
]beoiuse  it  does  not  appear  to  have  been  clearly 
i^tified  as.  a  Narcutstts  with  the  particular  flower 
of  the  story.  As  a  botanical  question,  I  think  it 
one  of  interest,  but  in  other  respects  1  am  a  sceptic. 

It  is  not  long  since  that  a  country  innkeeper, 

speaking  to  me  with  awe  of  the  neighbouring 

S^try,  mentioned  that  one  family  in  particular 

'^ia  "  ever  so  old,"  and  that  it  had  "the  red  hand" 

J^  its  arms,  for  "  some  dark  deed  "  (these  were 

*M«  Words)  "  done  by  one  of  them "  in  the  olden 

^'DW.    The  man  was  much  ofiended  when  I  sug- 

^88ted  that  it  was  the  common  badge  of  an  order. 

^  SudHras  says — 

**  Doubtless  the  pleasure  is  as  ^reat 
In  being  cheated  as  to  cheat.*' 

s. 

Heion  ORllEBjfE  (4*  S.  viii.  617;  ix.  45, 129.) 
?«8  "Word  Heron  is  always  pronounced  as  Ilur-un 
JJtfce  New  Forest ;  and  the  well-known  mansion 
*  Lord  Malmesbury,  near  Christchurch,  is  al- 
^ys  called  Her-on  Court  This  pronunciation 
^d  read  rhythmically  in  Marmion.  Indeed,  Sir 
^ter  Scott  waa  staying  at  Mudeford,  on  the 
•w^re  of  the  Forest,  with  Stewart  Rose,  in  1807, 
^ken  he  was  engaged  in  writing  Marmion,  as  well 


land  family  called  themselves  Heron  and  not 
Heme.  Indeed  I  was  brought  up  to  consider 
Heme,  either  for  bird  or  surname,  as  a  provin- 
cialism. P.  P. 


•ifJding  over  the  forest,  when  he  would  be  very 
*Wv  to  catch  the  correct  pronunciation  of  the 
^  Uer-on-ries,  J.  W.  D. 

^ntluimpton. 

8ir  Thomas  Browne  spelt  the  word  Hcni.    He 

^^^  great  namler  of  rivers,  rivulets,  and  plashes  of 
2»  makes  herns  and  herneries  to  abound  in  these 
'■*;  young  hems  being  esteemed  a  festival  dish." 
And 


.     r--'— ^-*-' V'  *— o  pronunciation  lo  atbca^cu 
■J^  proverb  "  He  does  not  know  a  hawk  from 


W.  IL  FlSHKB. 


knew  what  he  was  about.    I  have  al- 
^^vadmtood  that  the  fine  old  Northumber- 


L 


ScoTTisn  Iron  Money  (4'*»  S.  ix.  57,  144.) — 
A.  J.  K.  supposes  that  we  may  have  misquoted 
that  clause  of  the  charter  of  Walter  Hose  in  which 
occurs  the  expression  "  tres  nummatas  ferri."    He 
and  others  may  be  assured  that  we  have  not,  these 
being  the  very  words  as  printed  in  the  Register 
or  Chartulary  of  Paisley  edited  for  the  Maitland 
Club  by  that  eminent  charter  antiquary  Professor 
Cosmo  Innes  of  Edinburgh,  editor  also  of  most  of 
the  other  monkish  registers.    A.  J.  K.  will  pro- 
bably perceive  that  "  nummata  teme  "  (a  penny 
land — ^land  extended  at  a  penny)  could  not  be  the 
correct  reading  of  the  clause,  provided  the  "  num- 
mata terrse  ''  denoted  an  acre  in  extent,  because  it 
was  an  annual  payment  that  was  stipulated  to  be 
made  by  the  granter  s  brother,  John,  in  token  of 
his  recognition  of  the  grant  to  the  monastery  at 
Paisley  of  the  kirk  of  Cragyn,  &c.     An  annual 
payment  of  three  acres  of  land  was,  if  not  quite 
impracticable,  at  least  next  to  it.    Although  one 
author  is  to  be  found  interpreting  "  tres  nummatas 
ferri "  as  **  three  iron  coins "  (l^aterson  in  his 
History  of  Ayn^hire^  Craigie  parish),  still  we  now 
do  not  doubt  that  the  proper  interpretation,  on  a 
consideration  of  many  authorities  —  ns  Du  Cange, 
Spelman,  Blount,  Cowell,  &c. — is  "  three  penny- 
worths of  iron,"  or  iron  of  the  value  of  three  pen- 
nies.    In  like  manner  the  "  nummata  terns,"  a 
common  charter  denomination,  was  a  pennyworth 
of  land,  or,  according  to  the  Scotch  mode  of  ex- 
pression, "  a  penny  Und,"  t.  e,  land  of  an  extent 
which  was  rated  or  valued  at  a  penny — and  not  a 
"land  penny."     As,   however,   the  subject  is  of 
considerable  interest,  opinions  oppc>sed  to  or  con- 
firming these  our  views  are  invited.    To  be  cer- 
tiorated that  an  iron  coinage  was  in  circulation  in 
Scotland  during  the  twelfth  century  would  be  not 
a  little  astonishing.  Espedare. 

"Sugar"  (4»'»  S.  ix.  161.)  — The  orator  in 
question  was  Lord  Chatham ;  and  the  story  is*a 
curious  one.  See  Brougham's  Statesmen  of  (Jeorge 
Ill's  Time,  ed.  18oo,  i.  34.  LrTTELXoy. 

Ovid,  *'  Metak."  xiii.  264 :    "  Benignior  *' 
(4'»»  S.  vii.  456,  621 ;  viii.  37.)— Mr.  Kino  seems 
to  me  to  have  hit  upon  the  true  meaning  of  the 
words  "fueritque  hemgnior  Ajax,"  although  I 
doubt  if  ho  has  given  the  correct  sense  and  full 
force  of  the  whale  passage.    For  instance,  "  Let 
Ajax  have  them  I "  can  hardly,  I  think,  be  ac- 
cepted as  a  legitimate  rendermg  of  "  Arma  negate 
mihi,"  and  to  my  mind  destroys  the  real  gist  of 
the  sentence.    In  the  suggestion  that  there  is  "  a 
manifest  sneer  in  the  wcnrds,"  I  cordially  agree, 
only  with  this  difference,  that  I  think  there  is 
much  more,  namely,  though  a  cowrt,  yet  a  deep 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  [4**  s.  ix.  Mabgh % 71. 


and  cutting  irony.  Ulysses  does  not  say  give  the 
anns  to  A/aXf  but  he  says  refuse  to  give  them  to 
me;  and  so  inveterate  is  the  man^s  hatred  and 
malice  towards  me,  that  the  mere  fact  of  my  not 
getting  them,  whether  he  himself  gets  them  or 
not,  will  be  quite  enough  to  "  make  his  temper 
something  sweeter." 

For  the  "  passive  use  oi  heniynior'^  I  know  of 
no  authority,  nor  do  I  think  it  is  required  hero.  I 
am  sorry  to  say  that  I  am  compelled  to  differ  both 
from  Burmann  and  Mr.  King  on  their  exegesis 
of  the  passage.  There  was  nothing  needed  to 
render  Ajax  **  benignior  "  to  get  (ut  obtineat)  the 
arms,  for  he  was  dying  to  get  them,  and  because 
in  the  end  he  did  not  ^et  them,  went  raving  mad 
and  killed  himself,  ^or,  as  I  have  hinted,  does 
Ulysses  say  that  Ajax  ''may  become  so  if  1m  gets 
them,"  but  he  may  become  so  if  they  are  not 
given  to  me.  And  in  connection  with  this  inter- 
pretation there  is  evidently  a  latent  meaning  in 
tjie  comparative,  well  rendered  by  Mr.  King 
"  something  sweeter."  As  much  as  to  say,  by 
thus  withholding  from  me  my  right,  you  will  par^ 
tialhj  satisfy  and  conciliate  Ajax,  as  a  fortiori  you 
will  wholly  do  so,  by  making  it  over  to  him. 

This  use  of  bentgnus  is  common  enough.  In 
addition  to  the  reference  given  by  Mr.  King,  see 
Hor.  Od.  iv.  2,  01,  52;  Plant.  Pent,  Act  IV.  Sc.  4, 
34 ;  Ter.  Here.  Act  IV.  Sc.  :5,  39. 

Edmund  Tew,  M.A. 
Patching  Rectory,  Arundel. 

John  Wesley's  Footmarks  (3"*  S.  passim.) — 
"  Folks  is  ower  well  eddicated  noo  to  believe  sich 
things."  The  above  text  might  be  made  a  peg  on 
which  to  hang  a  long  sermon.  It  is  a  remark  made 
to  your  correspondent  J.  T.  F.  by  the  driver  of  a 
carrier's  cart  in  reply  to  a  question  as  to  the  truth 
of  the  above  assumed  miracle.  As  there  are  other 
persons,  as  well  as  this  Isle  of  Axholme  peasant, 
who  believe  that  when  people  are  "  well  eddi- 
cated "  they,  as  a  matter  oi  cours(»,  cease  to  be 
superstitious,  I  think  it  right  to  record  in  your 
pages  that  within '  the  last  few  days  1  have  been 
informed,  on  good  authority,  that  a  well-educated 
lady,  who  lives  not  far  from  the  scene  of  this  re- 
puted wonder,  has  expressed  her  full  belief  in  it. 
As  far  as  this  particular  legend  is  concerned  the 
fact  may  not  be  worth  recording,  but  is  useful  as 
affording  us  some  means  of  measuring  the  amount 
of  credence  we  should  give  to  strange  stories  that 
are  incapable  of  proof.  Many  people  think  they 
have  established  their  case,  when  maintaining  the 
truth  of  a  wonder,  if  they  can  affirm  that  this  or 
that  person,  who  is  kno^vn  to  have  received  a  good 
education,  has  unhesitatingly  received  it  for  truth. 
A  very  similar  tale  to  the  Wesley  lecrend  was  told 
some  years  ago  about  another  Lincolnshire  grave- 
stone. A  farmer  of  drunken  habits  cut  his  throat, 
and  died  from  the  effects  of  the  wound.     He  was 


buried  in  the  churchyard  of  the  neighbouring 
village,  and  au  altar-tomb  put  over  the  gimTe. 
In  the  slab  at  the  top  near  the  upper  end  were 
some  red  marks,  caused,  I  imagine,  by  iron  in  the 
stone.  Several  of  the  rustics  told  me  that  these 
were  not  natural  marks,  that  they  had  not  beoi 
there  at  first,  but  were  sent  by  God  to  mark  his 
detestation  of  the  crime  of  self-murder. 

K.  P.  D.  E. 


NOTES  ON  BOOKS.  ETC. 

The  History  of  Folperro,  a  Fiithing  Town  on  the  SonA 
Coast  of  Cornwall;  being  a  Description  of  the  Plan,  Ut 
People,  their  Manners,  Customs,  Modes  of  Induttrj/^kc. 
By  the  late  Jonathan  Couch,  F.L.S.,  Jbc.  &c.  frm  m 
Short  Account  of  the  Life  and  Labours  of  the  AmAor, 
and  many  Additions  to  the  Pi^pular  Antiquities  of  fk 
District,  by  Thomas  Couch,  F.S.A.  ^Simpkm  4k 
Marshall.) 

On  April  13, 1870,  the  men  of  "  Tre,  Pol,  and  Pen  "  had 
to  lament  the  loss  of  one  of  the  worthies  of  ComwilL 
Jonathan  Couch,  a  man  of  great  and  varied  acqairemoiti^ 
and  of  sterling  worth,  died  on  that  day  in  the  eif^ik^- 
second  year  of  his  age.    A  frequent  and  valuable  con- 
tributor to  the  various  scientific  ioumals,  and  an  oeeft- 
sional  contributor  to  our  own  columns,  Mr.  Conch  wflli 
wc  venture  to  think,  be  long  and  weU  known  by  the 
work  before  us,  which  combines  within  its  two  or  Chm 
hundred  pages  a  variety  of  interest.    It  partakes  in  one 
part  of  that  genial  love'  and  appreciation  of  nAtnral  hit- 
tory  which  so  charms  us  in  White's  Selbome.    Tbam  4 
who  love  to  trace  in  our  popular  superstitions  the  TenMiM  -^ 
of  extinct  mythologies  will  be  delighted  with  the 
tcrs  devoted  to  the  folk  lore  of  the  district ;  while 
philologist  will  be  a.<i  pleased  with  his  contributions  to  I 
dialect  of  the  neighbourhood,  as  the  naturalist  with 
account  of  its  botany  and  fauna.     Mr.  Thomas 
has  executed  his  task  as  a  biographer  ^*ith  good  taite  i 
feeling. 

Parochial  and  Family  History  of  the  Deanery  of  Tii^!^ 
Minor,  in  the  County  of  Cornwall.    Part  TV.    Efk^" 
hayle.     By  Sir  John  Maclean,  F.SJl.  &c    (Nlch*^ 
&  Son.) 

Sir  John  Mac1ean*s  History  of  the  Deanery  of  ^"^0     .' 
continues  to  make  satisfactory  progress^  and  to  nilfil  »*     i 
promise  of  forming  a  valuable  addition  to  oar  noM*     I 
list  of  county  histories.    The  part  before  us,  which  ^     ' 
devoted   to  the  parish  of  Egloshayle,  contains  illitftt*'    -. 
tions  of  its  interesting  parish  church,  the  old  ^M^^^g^    * 
and  the  ancient  bridge  of  Wade,  plans  of  tihe  cAd  BrittlJ 
earthworks   at  Killibur}'   Castle,  and  Pencarrow,  ai»    j 
mnnv  engravings  of  wayside  crosses,  arms,  &c    Meaoi0 
<»f  the  families  of  Kestell  of  Kestell,  Mokaworth,  mJ 
lloblyn,  accompanied  by  very  full  and  carefoUy  oonqfli^ 
p(.'digreei4,  will  interest  our  genealogical  friends. 

(inide  de  V Amateur  de  Porcdaines  et  de  Poterietf  on  M' 
lection  complete  des  Marques  de  Fatrtmies  de  Poret^ 
laines  et  de  Poterie  de  FHurajx  et  de  rAtie.   Per  DTr 
J.  G.Theodore  Graesse.     Trotneme edUhn miihwat^^ 
re  fondue,  corrigce,et  considerablementangmentee,  (i 
UVrlin.) 


When  calling  attention  in  July  last  to  the 
Guide  de  P Amateur  d'Objets  d'AH  tit  de  OluiQaUi  hf 


4*S.IZ.Uabch!,'7!.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


learDsd  Dinctor  or  the  Rreen  Vault  U  Dresden,  we  re-      ably  to  the  practice  of  their  royil  pttdecason  during  the 

ftirad  to  the  BBBOnd  edition  of  hi»  yduablB  Cbta/ujix  of  '  —'•-"-" '  "■-  --v-j-.    .»—   ...-  ^ — .  ™-.    ... 

Marii  m   Chita  and  Fotttry.     A  third  edition  of  thb 


,  tnd  aach  of  our  tHends  u  ai 
int«re*t<d  in  these  niitlen  may  judge  how  much  it  ei 
Ceedi  it»  predecesion  in  information  when  we  My  thi 
while  the  finl  edition  contained  S40  marki  of  Pottery  an 
BST  of  China,  the  present  exliitiit«  no  tees  tban  683  moni 
gtaiQi  in  the  Nction  of  Pottery,  and  635  ic  that  of  Porci 
Ikiai  M  that,  u  ita  learned  editor  remarks,  the  book  ma 
be  considered  rather  a  new  work  thin  a  new  edition. 


By  C™ 

bii  Nephew  and  Son-in 
M.A.  (Ririnpon  '      ' 


-  Ommaa'i  AdminUlratiin 


V,  the  Kev.  Ilerliert  Randolph, 
iQUii  and  inteKSting  con- 
-acter  and  opportunities 
•which  the  writer  enjoyed,  to  our  knowledge,  of  a  recent, 
bat  veTTobacnre  incident  in  our  political  history. — Pariih 
JUguhr^  A  FIra  for  thtir  Frntmitirm.  fly  T.  P. 
Taiwell  Langmead,  B.C.L.,  Ac  (Palmer.)  Only  those 
who  have  had  Sequent  occasion  to  consult  the  parochial 
registeni  of  the  coontrv  can  have  the  slightest  idea  of 
the  condition  of  these  "  Title-deeds  of  the  Commonalty  " 
at  the  present  moment.  We  believe  no  social  reform 
ii  more  needed  tban  one  which  should  secure  tbe  aafe 
outodv  of  these  important,  but  fast  perishing  and  dis- 
appeanng  records.— T^  Tra^itiiniars  Ballad  Pottrv  of 
Beotlamd,  by  John  Roberta.  (Seton  &  Mackenzie,  f^n- 
bbrgh.)  A  THiy  pleasadt  lecture  on  a  subject,  the  intereat 

"A  Cebtdbt  Of  BiBi.KB;  or  [be  Anthoriscd  Version 
ftnil  1611  to  1711."  fir  tbe  Rev.  W.  J.  Loftie,  BA., 
F.SJ(.  This  volume  wlli  comprise  a  complete  biblio- 
mphiollist  of  upwards  of  S5U  editions  of  tte  Bible  and 
Teatament  of  tbe  Authorised  Version  printed  before  1711, 
pnceded  by  a  detailed  account  of  the  version  itself,  and 
ft  bistorr  of  its  most  important  rerision'.  An  Appendix 
-win  contain  a  list  of  the  Bibles  of  this  translation  in 
the  British  Maseum,  the  Bodleian  Library,  tbe  CoUcc- 
tioD  af  Mr.  Frr,  those  named  br  Lea  Wibon,  and  those 
in  a  Ikw  smaller  collections.  No  list  of  the  editions  of 
King  James's  version  has  before  been  published.  A 
Dew  are  named  in  l«a  Wilson  and  Cotton,  but  not  a  tithe 
of  the  whole  number.     As  only  120  small  paper 


.  -jljacription  book  which  baa 

just  been  ooened  at  the  Chapter  Honse.  where  all  who 
wish  to  follow  tbe  example  thus  noblv  set  can  enrol 
themselves  as  contributors  to  the  Fund.  Why  should  not 
the  adornment  of  the  dome  with  splendid  mosaic-work,  as 
intended  by  Wren,  be  made  Iht  feature  of  tbe  present 
special  appeal  ? 


BOOI 


S    AND    ODD    VOLUa 
WANTED  TO  PCRCBA3E. 
rke,  *&,  of  Ih*  Iblloirliic  1i»k«  to  tn  « 


J-  /Vfxtfi^y^.  ^,  Coiwr'a  Coi*  R«it, 


■nd  30  large  p 
■honid  be  addre) 


r,  will  be 


Kin  led,  early  appUcati 
her,  Mr.  Pickering. 


VoRCESTER  Catiikdrai_ — Tbcse  re- 
.  lally  carious  and  interesting  early 
eanings,  which  had  Men  removed  from  their  places  in 
IIm  choir  during  ttie  progress  uf  the  restoration  of  that 
beaatirnl  part  of  Worcester  Cathedral,  have  now  been 
nplaced  in  their  proper  positions.  They  have  been  care- 
Ailly  cleaned;  and,  happily,  their  Bbare  in  the  work  of 
rcMoration  which  surrounds  Ibcm  on  every  side  Is  so 
•Hght  that  it  can  scarcely  be  considered  to  affect  their 
gBBoine  originalitv.  Tbe  entire  series  has  just  been 
photographed  witEi  complete  success ;  and  the  photo- 
anpha  will  shortly  be  published,  with  concise  descriptive 
MUr-pna*,  by  the  photographer,  Mr.  Aldis,  of  the  city 
tjt  Worceeter.  Meanwhile,  if  any  of  our  readers  are 
likely  to  be  specially  interested  in  these  Misereres,  the 
Bev.  C.  Boulell,  M-A,,  will  be  happy  to  give  information 

eoDoeming  them  in  reply  to  inquiries  ad' ""  "    "  " 

can  of  Mr.  Aldis,  High  Street,  Worcester. 


flulfttd  to  Ciirrt<iiaiiIrrnU. 

M.  D,  (Ipswich.) — A  lilt  of  medical  baronttt  mag  be 
fitHud  in  •■  S.  &  Q.*'  B"  S.  X.  86, 

OmMtTH.— iSiz  articla  on  Sibyl  or  Sabil  ameartd  in 
«  S,  &  Q."  1«  S.  vols,  xl  xiL 

W.  H.  9^—The^it  edition  of  Bun^an't  Pilgrim's  Pro- 


J.-ns  ■ 

at  Caabl 


I,  Land.  1678,  ii  nf  exeetihe  rarilu,  iJie  mla  perfect 

knimn  being  in  theameuion  ifS.  S.  JIolfird,Eiq^ 

u,  Tclbury,  GlnuceiterMre. 


PiCKt 


■Charlet  Henry  Cooper,  F,S.A.,  died 
nn  the  laying,  •'  At  deaf 


John  E.  B.  3I( 
3'"  S.  ii.  253. 

Th.  K.  TviA-T.— Eight  o 
OS  a  beetle,"  appeared  in  mi 

G.  W.  N,  (Alderley  Kdge.)— 7^e  Mttggletonian  tret  op- 
peart  to  hact  died  out.    fit  "  N.  &  Q."  A"  3.  iii.  303,  40i. 

J.  Bealk.— .^11  txplanalion  of  the  phraie,  "  He  inovt 


^■D  mam  b 

111. % 

our  1"  S.  V 

Ri»  makejicer  it  gaen 
the  dittinetion  between 
i.  356,  653. 

n.  "  N.  4  a"  3"  h.  i. 

W.  B.  C. 
English  I* 
he  larger  L 
Ketirt.  Bu 

boakteUtrt, 

EURATU 

>otcom,/or 

(Ilroinster.)- ro«ar*  r 
xicon,  by  E.  A.  Andrea 
atin-German  Lexicon  of 

terworlJi  of  7,  fleet  Si 
^oMldprobMy  anther  yo 

.-4-  S.  IX.  p.  158,  col. 

ferred  to  lAeLatin- 
whick  i,  founded  on 

Dr.  (f.  frennd. 

eet,  till  eminent  law 

r  oifcer  ^^r. 

L  line  2t  trtm  the 

A  uccflvtlr  tbf  pDUicaUuD, 


192 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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4«»»S.IX.  Mauch9/72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


193 


LONDON,  SATURDAY,  MARCH  »,  1872. 


CONTENTS.— N«  219. 

UOTES:— A  General  Literary  Indox:  Indgx  of  Authors: 
Venerable  Bede.  lO.'S  —  Brougham  Auecdotes,  195  —  Family 
of  Orde.  lb.  —  Not  answering  Letters  —  Georice  Ferrers  — 
"  Solar  topee  "  -  The  Pyrrhine  Ode  —  "  To  Cut  off  one's 
Nose/*  Ac.  —  PunniriK  Mottoes  —  "  Eileen  Aroon "—"Gods 
have  taken  Shai>es  of  Beabta  "—Free  Translation  —  Words- 
worth's "  Primrose."  196. 

QUERIES:  —  Rev.  Thos.  Cromwell.  Ph.D.,  F.S.A.,  103  — 
SothoroD  Queries,  /ft.  — Love's  Triumph,  /ft.— Spranger 
Barry  —  Koailicea  —  "  Brook  Green  Volquteer  "  —  "  Catus 
amat  Pisces,"  &c.  —  City  State  Bar^*"*  —  '*  The  Chib,"  by 
James  Puckle— Chaucer's  Knowledge  of  Italian  —  Divorce 

—  "Lady  Jane  Dundas"  — Mistress  Eleyn  — Fen  Lak(» 
or  Meres  —  Gawvi.son  —  "  Geiitle  "  —  John  Gouldsmyth, 
Gouldsmith,  or  Goldsmith  —  "  Hear  1  Hoar !  "  —  Hogarth 

—  Knucklebones :  Dibs  —  The  Inventor  of  Lucifer  Matches 
— Levelis  of  Barbadoea  —  Medal,  1605  —  Musico  Quiquini-^ 
One-Penny  —  Sir  Thomas  Phillipps'  MSS.  —  Prince  of 
Wales-  Queen  Elizabeth  and  the  Country  Mayor—  Rabe- 
lais —  Reproduction  of  Seals  and  Coins  —  •'  Mary  Rose  "  — 
Societies  for  the  Reformation  of  Manners,  &c.,  199. 

REPLIES :  —  Etymology  of  "  Harrowpate."  203  —  Horneck 
and  Jessamy,  204  —  Quadruple  and  Triple   Births,  /ft. 

—  Origin  of  "Tichborne,"  205  —  The  Meeting  of  the 
Three  Choirs  —  "Finis  coronat  opus"  —  "  Dunsinane" 
"Whychcotte  of  St.  John's"- Wild  Beasts  for  Sale  — 
Mautner  — "The  Death  of  Nelson  "  — Jervis :  Jarvis.  Ac. 
—Lady  Alice  Eiterton— "  In  the  mid  Silence,"  Ac— Change 
of  Baptismal  Names  —  "  I'm  come  a  shroveing,"  Ac.  — 
Napoleon  at  Elba  — **  Henry  VIII.  pulled  down."  Ac  — 
KoDsueh  Palace  — "Board "^  Haro  —  Relics  of  Olivor 
Cromwell :  the  Sydney  Portrait,  &c.,  206. 

Ifotes  OD  Books.  Ac. 


A    GENERAL     LITERARY   INDEX:     INDEX    OF 
AUTHORS :  VENERABLE  DEDE. 

TLirty  articles  have  already  been  devoted  to 
this 

"  Clarum  et  veneraj^ile  nomen  " — 

this  great  ornament  of  England,  and  Father  of  the 

^^iversal  Church;  but  "a  list  of  the  different 

editions  of  his  works,  distinguishing  home  and 

^continental  editions,  as  also  those  of  his  complete 

^^^\%  and  of  portions  of  his  works  "  (!•'  S.  vi. 

^)  has  not  yet  been  supplied  in  your  pages. 

The  first  general  collection  of  Bede's  works  ap- 
pealed at  Paris  in  1521  and  ly44,  both  of  three 
pwtg,  in  one  volume  folio.     They  were  printed 
*S»in  (1554)  at  the  same  place  in  eight  volumes. 
.  They  were  published  in  the  same  size  and  number 
of  Volumes  by  Joannes  Hervagius  atlJasil  va  1503, 
ttCologne  in  1612  and  1G88.    That  of  1563  is 
•till  the  best  edition  (Ebert)    In  Migne's  Cursus 
^pletus,  torn.  xc.  xciv.,  the  complete  works  of 
^e  have  been  coUected ;  and  accompanied  by  a 
^^6^  Inglish  translation  of  the  Historical  Works, 
wd  a  Life  of  the  Author,  by  the  Rev.  J.  A. 
^es,  LL.D.,  comprised  in  twelve  volumes,  8vo,. 
*j4.3-4.    The  reader  may  consult  also  Oudinus, 
^  Sctiptvrdms  JBcclesiasticiSf  i.  1681,  1712  ;  Ma- 
^^fAda  Ord.  Benedicti,  scec.  ill.  i.  534 ;  Cave's 
^^  LUeraria,  i.  120,  which  has  been  followed 


by  the  editors  oiBiog.  Britatmica;  Possevinus,  Ap" 
par.  iSacer,  i.  200-5.  Fabricius.  For  opinions  in 
favour  of  Bede's  work§  Dr.  Giles  refers  to  Trithe- 
miu8,  Sextus  Senensis,  Pope,  Blount,  Bioff.  Brit, 
Kich.  Simon,  Bruckerii  Higt.  CriL  Phil,  &c.  Ley- 
serus  (Hisioria  Poetannn  et  Po€nuitun>  Medii  AHvi) 
refers  to  llonorius,  Mincus,  Sigebertus,  Baleus, 
Pitsous. 

I  have  prefixed  an  asterisk  to  such  of  his  works 
as  are  considered  by  Dp.  Giles  and  Mr.  Wright  to 
be  supposititious  or  dubious,  and  are  not  enu- 
merated in  the  list  drawn  up  by  Bede  himself  at 
the  end  of  his  Ecclesiastical  History.  In  the  Bio^ 
graphia  Literaria  Anglo- Saxonica  will  be  found  the 
editions  of  the  several  portions  of  his  works. 

After  noticing  the  principal  editions  of  our 
author,  and  giving  the  prefaces  and  dedicatory 
epistles,  Dr.  Giles  thus  proceeds : — ^The  following 
collation  (of  the  I^asil  edition)  will  be  sufHcient 
to  describe  these  volumes  and  their  contents.  The 
first  volume  has^  an  engraved  title-page,  and  a 
table  of  contents  to  the  whole  series:  .  .  .  Secundus 
Tomus  .  .  .  l*hilo8ophica  .  ^  .  Tertiu8,  Historica  .  . . 
Quartus,  Commentaria  .  .  .  Quintus,  Commentaria 
. . .  Sextus,  Commentaria. . .  Septimus,  Conciones, 
&c.    Octavus,  Quaestiones  elegantissimas  Vet. Test. 

Operum  Catalogus:  Primi  Tomi  Elenchus. 
•Cuuabula  grammaticce  artis  Donati.*     •De  octo 

?artibus  orationis.  De  arte  xiietrica.  This  book  is  in 
'utsch's  Grammatici  VetereSf  pp.  2350-58.  Part  of 
it  is  found  in  Cassander*s  edition  of  Bede's  Hymni, 
and  in  Cassander's  works,  Paris,  1616,  pp.  160-76.  In 
Giles  (vol.  vi.  p.  36):  Quum  parte  aliqua  orationis 
in  brevem  vocalem  terminata  sequens  sermo  a 
litera  z  incipit,  nullam  producendi  habet  potesta- 
tern :  unde  est,  Et  nemorosa,  Zacynthus.  Com- 
pare Valpy's  CUisidcalJoumalj  "On  the  quantity  of 
a  final  short  vowel  before  a  word  beginning  with 
8  followed  by  a  consonant,"  i.  71-81,  283-08. 
•  De  schematibus  et  tropis  sacrns  Script  urie  j  cf. 
Home  (vol.  ii.).  De  orthographia.  It  is  found  in 
Putsch's  Grammatici  VeteresLatiniy  1005,  pp.  2776- 
2803.  Its  genuineness  has  been  questioned  (see 
Giles's  preface,  vol.  vi.):  "This  tract,  which  is 
written  according  to  alphabetical  arrangement, 
explains  the  orthography  and  different  significa- 
tion of  words  which  are  nearly  alike.''  (•De  arith- 
meticis  numeris)  :  "  Numerus  est  multitudo  ex 
unitatibus  constituta :  nam  unio  semel  non  potest 
esse  numerus.  Arithmetica  autem  est  disciplina 
numerorum.  Gncci  enim  numerum  ^vQ^ibv  vocant. 
Xumeri  disciplinam  apud  (irajcos  primum  Py- 
thagoram  perhibent  conscripsisse ;  ac  delude  a 
Nicomacho  difTusius  esse  dispositam.  Quum  apud 
Latinos  primum  Apuleius,  aeinde  Boetius  trans- 
tulerunt.  Numero  nummus' nomen  dedit,  et  a 
sui  frequentatione  vocabulum  ei  indidit." 

1  I  have  already  ^iven  an  account  of    Donatus  de 
Grammatica  in  "N.  &  Q."  (3'd  S.  xii.  49.) 


194 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4tii  S.  IX.  Mabgr  9, 72. 


To  the  tract  De  Kumeris,  the  following  extract 
from  a  communication  by  Prof.  De  Morgan  in 
«N.  &  Q.,"  2-*»  S.  vui.  400;will  be  a  sAitable  pre- 
face:— 

**  Nothing  ifl  more  common  tlian  the  distinction  of 
number  into  digitus,  articulus,  and  compa'^itus,  for  which 

compotus  is  a  MS.  contraction Old  Sacrobosco 

lays  it  down  that  digitus  is  1, 2, 3,  &c. ;  articulus  is  10, 20, 
30,  &c. ;  and  compositus  is  11  or  23,  or  30,  &c.  Lucas 
Facioli  will  not  follow  him  entirely,  but  defines  composite 
to  be  made  by  multiplying  factors;  as  24  (6  x  4),  &c. ; 
and  this  sense  has  prevailed.  Computus  and  compotus 
meant  usually  time  reckonings,  or  almanacs ;  as  in  the 
Computus  Ecclesiasticus  of  Sacrobosco  himself.  To  com- 
pute, in  the  modem  sense  (a  very  old  modem  sense),  is 
derived  from  thumbing  the  almanac,  not  the  abacus. 
Some  old  vernacular  works,  English  and  others,  distin- 
guish the  digit  from  the  articulate  number.  The  word 
articulus  seems  to  indicate  that  after  the  digits  had  been 
reckoned  on  tlic  finger  ends — taking  up  the  name  of  the 
whole  finger,  as  first  tenants  the  tens  were  reckoned  on 
the  joints.  It  should  be  noted  that  Sacrobosco  means  by 
articulus  any  number  divisible  into  tens,  as  100, 1000,  200, 
5000,"  &c. 

**P«st  prcedicta  scias  brcviter  quod  tres  numerorum 
DLstinctae  species  sunt ;  nam  quidam  digiti  sunt ; 
Articuli  quidam  ;  quidam  quoque  compositi  sunt. 
Sunt  digiti  numeri  qui  semper  infra  dccem  sunt; 
Articuli  decupli  digitorum  ;  compositi  sunt 
Illi  qui  constant  ex  ajrticulis  digitisque." 

Alcxandri  de  Villa  Dei  Carmen  de  Algorismo 
(Ilalliweirs  Rara  Maihematica.) 

De  computo  dialogue;  de  diyisionibus  tempo- 
rum  liber ;  de  arithmeticis  propo^itionibus ;  de  ra- 
tione  calculi ;  de  numerorum  divisione;  do  loquela 
per  gcstum  digitorum ;  Bridferti  Rameaiensis  com- 
mentariolus ;  Jo.  Noviomagi  scholia ;  de  ratione 
unciarum,  &c. 

"  Here  the  author  give«j  the  Abacus  or  multiplication 
table  of  Pythagoras  J]Mensa  Pythagorica,  cf.  Turner, 
ill.  408],  and  a  collection  of  arithmetical  nuestions,  such 
as  arc  now  found  in  those  elementary  books  which  pro- 
pose problems  of  this  kind  in  an  entertaining  form.  There 
18  a  series  of  calculating  tables,  a  treatise  upon  weights 
and  measures,  and  another  upon  the  lunar  motions. 
There  is  an  ephemeris  most  laboriously  calculated :  an 
ignorant  eye  may  perceive  how  much  head-work  its  dia- 
grams and  tables  must  have  cost ;  but  it  would  require 
no  common  proficiency  in  science  to  ascertain  their  accu- 
racy, and  estimate  from  them  the  degree  of  knowledge  in 
those  branches  to  which  Bode  had  attained.  There  are 
computations  fpr  the  kalendfir  and  tables  in  which  Easter 
is  calculated  from  the  commencement  of  the  Christian 
era  to  the  year  1595.  He  wrote  also  upon  indigitation, 
both  as  an  art  of  computing  by  the  fingers,  and  of  con- 
versing by  them ;  upon  chronology,  dialling,  the  astro- 
labe,  the  poles,  and  the  circles  of  the  sphere,  music 
theoretical  and  practical,  nativities,  venesection,  the  ele- 
ments, the  planets,  and  the  constellations." — Southey's 
Vindicict  Ecclesia  Anglicana, 

On  the  probable  connection  of  the  invention  of 
the  Dominical  Cycle  which  is  meant  by  Bede 
when  he  speaks  of  the  laterculus  Septizodii  (p.  224) 
with  the  Paschal  controversy  of  ecclesiastical  anti- 
quities, see  GreswelPs  Oriyiiies  Caletidarice,  Introd. 
p.  190^  Prelim.  Diss.  §  17  p.  xzx.  n.  3,  De  toni- 
truis  hbellus.    This  is  retamed  by  Giles,  but  not 


the  following: :  *Progno8tica  temporum ;  de  men- 
sura  horologii ;  de  astrolabio ;  de  nativitate  infim- 
tium ;  de  minutione  sanguinis ;  de  septem  mundi 
miracnlis ;  de  ratione  computi.  Some  of  his  Poe- 
mata  arc  undoubtedly  spurious. 

*'Aldhclm  might  well  say  that  the  labour  of  all  his 
other  acquisitions  was  small  in  the  comparison  with  that 
which  he  endured  when  studying  aritlunetic.  But  that 
the  Anglo-Saxons  attained  great  practical  skill  in  calca- 
lation  the  elaborate  works  of  Bede  sufficiently  testlfy.7 
Sharon  Turner,  iii.  429.  Respecting  the  circuli',  your  cor- 
respondent Mr.  W3I.  Davis  (**  N.  &  Q."  S'^d  S.  iv.  497) 
should  consult  Bucherius,  De  Doctrina  Tempormwtf 
458  sqq. 

jSccundi  Tomi  Elenchus  (De  nature  remm). 
Sumner  in  his  Records  of  the  Creation  (vol.  i.)  sup- 
plies an  illustration  oif  cap.  xli.^  Cur  mare  at 
amarum ;  et  c.  xxvi.  libri  sequentis : — 

*'  Our  Venerable  Bede  made  some  attempts  to  enter  this 
new  region,  and  his  treatise  on  the  nature  of  things  dunra 
that  ho  endeavoured  to  introduce  the  study  of  natnnd 
philosophy  among  the  Anglo-Saxons.     This  work  has 
two  great  merits — it  assembles  into  one  focus  the  wliwt 
opinions  of  the  ancients  on  the  subjects  be  disciuses,  and 
it  continually  refers  the  phenomena  of  nature  to  natunl 
causes.    The  imperfect  state  of  knowledge  prevented  hia 
from  discerning  the  true  natural  .causes  of  many  things  ' 
but  the  principle  of  referring  the  events  and  appeanncet 
of  nature  to  its  own  laws  and  agencies  displays  a  mind  of 
a  sound  philosophical  tendency,  and  was  calcolated  to 
lead  his  countrymen  to  a  just  mode  of  thinking  tn  thM 
subjects.    Although  to  teach  that  thunder  and  lightniiif 
were  the  collisions  of  the  clouds,  and  that  eartEquAfcai 
were  the  eflect  of  winds  rushing  through  the  spoagjr 
caverns  of  the  earth  were  erroneous  deductions,  y«t  Cbtf 
were  light  itself  compared  with  the  superstitions  nUca 
other  nations  have  attached  to  these  phenomena,    flnflh 
theories  directed  the  mind  into  the  right  path  of  reuoa- 
ing,  though  the  correct  series  of  the  connected  events  ad 
the  operating  laws  had  not  then  become  known.   Ite 
work  of  Bede  is  evidence  that  the  establiahment  of  tks 
Teutonic  nations  in  the  Roman  empire  did  not  bartMiisft 
knowledge.  lie  collected  and  taught  more  nataral  tnflH 
with  fewer  errors  than  any  Roman  book  on  the  MiM 
subjects  had  accomplished.    Thus  his  work  displays  la 
advance,  not  a  retrogradation  of  human  knowledge ;  Asi 
from  its  judicious  selection,  and  concentration  of  theb>^ 
natural  philasophy  of  the  Roman  empire,  it  does  iitgk- 
credit  to  the  Anglo-Saxon  good  sense. — p.  430. 

^  Turner  here  gives  selections  from  this  and  the  ftDoV" 
ing  treatise,  which  convey  a  general  idea  of  the  subittiB* 
of  their  contents : — De  temporum  ratione  (p.  482).  Hi» 
thinks  the  Antipodes  a  fable ;  but  fh>m  no  saperstitifliv 
but  because  the  ancients  had  taught  that  the  torrid  MM 
was  uninhabitable  and  impassable.     Yet  he  seeou  t» 
admit  that  between  this  and  the  parts  aboat  the  Sorih 
Pole,  which  he  thought  a  mass  of  congelation,  then  W 
some  habitable  land.    It  was  the  probabili^'of  hoBM 
existence  in  such  circumstances,  not  such  a  local  part  rf 
the  earth,  which  Bede  discredited.   [There  is  an  enUBi* 
tion  of  his  mental  arithmetic — Que  sit  Feria  inCUfoA 
caput  xxi.— in  "N.  &  Q."  l"*  a  iv.  201,  &c.]  Ds  iK     r 
ietatibus  Mundi,  sive  Chronicon.     His  treatiae  on  tt* 
Six  Ages  gives  a  r^^lar  series  of  Jewish  chnmolog]r|i>' . 
then  of  general  chronology*,  carried  down  to  tfae  vearTIi 
De  temporibus.  From '  Alcoin's  EpisL  fi,  we  findjb*^ 
Charlemagne  had  read  our  Bede's  wozk,  De 
(Turner.)    *Sententin  ex  Aristotde^  cam  comi 
incerti  autoris.  His  works  poored  a  umAiI  flood 


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1  > ' 

I 


Va.UL  March  9, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEKIES. 


195 


for  the  exercise  and  improvement  of  the  Anglo-Saxon 
mind,  and  collected  into  one  focus  all  that  -was  known  to 
the  ancient  world,  excepting  the  Greek  mathematicians, 
and  some  of  their  literature  and  philosophy  which  he  had 
not  much  studied.  (Turner.)  *Sententiaj  ex  Cicerope. 
His  moral  taste  and  wisdom  appears  in  "his  excellent  selec- 
tion of  moral  sentences  from  the  works  of  the  ancients. 
....  His  treatise  on  blood-letting  displays  some  of  the 
universal  superstitions  of  his  countr}*men  as  to  proper 
days  and  times  (0pp.  i.  p.  472)  ;  and  in  another  work  ho 
tells  us  that  trees  ought  to  be  cut  in  the  third  week  of 
the  moon,  or  they  will  be  corroded  by  worms  (ii.  115); 
but  it  is  St.  Ambrose,  not  liimself,  who  is  responsible  for 
this  fancy.  lie  states  of  the  tides  that  they  followed  the 
moon,  and  that,  as  the  moon  rises  and  svts  every  day 
four-fourths  or  four-tiflths  of  an  hour  later  than  the  pre- 
ceding, so  do  the  tides  ebb  and  flow  with  a  siqiilar  retar- 
dation (ii.  116).    Turner,  iii.  409. 

"  •Proverbia. — Ue  substantiis.  It  is  in  the  tract  on  sub- 
stances that  Bedc's  metaphysical  tendencies  appear.  .  .  . 
His  view  of  nature  is  not  unpleasing.  Observe  how  all 
things  are  made  to  suit  and  are  governed  :  heat  b^'  cold ; 
cold  by  heat ;  day  by  night,  and  winter  by  summer,  &c. 
(Turner,  p.  449).— *i*Llementa  Philosophic.  For  the  credit 
both  of  Bede  and  the  Anglo-Saxons  1  should  have  been 
glad  to  have  been  con\inced  that  the  four  books,  Dc  £le- 
mentis  Philosophio;,  printed  as  it  is  in  his  works,  were 
actually  his  composition,  for  they  display  a  spirit  of  in- 
vestigation, a  soundness  of  philosopbical  mind,  and  a 
qoantity  of  just  opinions  on  natural  philosophy  that 
would  do  credit  to  any  age  before  that  of  Friar  Bacon. 
Bat  its  merit  compels  iis  to  sus[)ect  the  possibility  of  its 
belonging  to  the  eighth  century.  (Turner,  p.  432.) 

**  De  Pascho}  celebratione,  sive  de  sequiuoctio  vemali ; 
de  divinatione  mortis  et  vita?,  Petosyris  ad  Necepsum 
regem  -^gj'pti  epistola ;  dc  Area  Noe ;  de  Unguis  gen- 
tium; Sibj'llina  oracula.' 

"The  shameles^tness  with  which  works  were  falsely 
ueribed  to  Bede  is  sufficiently  evident  from  one  instance 
i  taken  from  this  list.  The  musical  tracts  {De  Musica 
I  Tiuorica  and  De  Musica  QundraUi  sire  ATensurata)  con- 
i  Uin  French  names  of  airs,  but  that  language  could  not 
[  We  been  spoken  till  many  ages  after  the  time  uf  Bede." 
I       (Gilea,  voL  vi.) 

BrULIOTHECAB.  CnETHAM. 

[To  be  continued.] 


BROUGHAM  ANECDOTKS. 

.  ^yond  the  immediate  gratification  Brougham 
*°JP^  to  others  by  his  own  recollections  of  him- 
•^»  lie  creates  a  fresh  delight  by  awakening  in 
^'^'^  their  own  recollections  of  him ;  and,  from 
*  old  memory,  the  following  incidents  are 
noosed. 

^D 1812,  Burdett  had  an  action  brought  against 
^  by  Morris,  the  High  Bailiff  of  Westminster, 
**  *  proportion  of  the  hustings  expenses  attend- 
^  on  the  then  recent  election,  which  the  baronet 
J™8ided  on  the  ground  that  he  was  not  a  candi- 
^*^l  and  on  my  father,  who  was  his  solicitor, 
J*^  him  what  King*8  Counsel  ho  wished  re- 
^^  against  the  official  and  talented  silk  en- 
Ppi  on  the  other  side,  with  Ellonborough  for 
WS^uidett  replied  that  he  would  have  none, 
JJ^^tBrongham  should  be  his  leader;  and  ac- 
^^^^ifm  the  king  of  the  populace;  Brougham 


alone  was  retained ;  and  to  follow  such  youthful 
seniority  it  was  not,  with  a  Law  List  a  third  of  its 
present  bulk,  an  easy  task  to  provide  a  suitable 
junior. 

At  the  consultations  on  the  case  at  Brougham's 
chambers  I  remember  seeing  over  his  mantel- 
shelf, framed  and  glazed,  a  manuscript  invective 
against  his  political  opponents,  in  some  such 
strain  as  this :  — 


({ 


If  bugs  infest  the  bed  whereon  I  lie, 
Shall  I,  disturb 'd,  lie  tranquil  ?    No,  not  I. 
ril  rise  and  rout  themj  nor  deem  routing  done 
Till  I've  crushed  them  every  one." 


»T 


Brougham's  sparkling  vivacity  made  him  swift 
at  repartee.  For  example,  I  chanced  to  be  in  the 
gallery  of  old  St.  Stephen's  when  Castlereaeh, 
in  a  debate  upon  army  estimates,  finished  nis 
speech  with  a  playful  sally  on  the  military  tactics 
and  array  of  the  opposition  for  the  approaching 
division;  and  had  no  sooner  sat  down,  than 
Brougham,  springing  to  his  feet  and  doffing  his 
hat,  uttered  with  his  best  gesticulation  and  vehe- 
mence :  *^  Sir,  the  noble  lord  in  the  blue  ribbon 
has  been  twitting  my  side  of  the  house  with 
soldier-like  disciphne  and  mustering  for  the  com- 
ing vote.  Sir,  1  am  not  aware  that  there  is  any- 
thing more  martial  in  our  movements  or  display 
for  this  night's  division  than  on  his;  but  this! 
know,  that,  at  all  events,  with  us  there  is  no 


pay 


John  Pike. 


FAMILY  OF  ORDE. 


According  to  Nisbet  the  family  of  Orde  belongs 

to  "  Northuniberland-upon-Tweed."    Although  a 

Scotsman,  he  does  not  appear  to  have  known  that 

^^  Orde  of  that  Ilk  "  had  lands  bearing  that  name 

in  the  county  of  Banff  in  the  North  of  Scotland. 

He  gives  the  arms  thus,  "Azure,  three  fishes 

haurienty  argent,"  and  observes :  — 

"  The  principal  f;imily  of  the  name  is  of  an  old  stand- 
ing, as  Ord  of  that  Ilk  and  of  Folkingtoun  ;  from  vrhich 
there  are  several  families  in  that  county." 

At  present  there  are  three  Ords:  East  Ord, 
Middle  Ord,  and  AVest  Ord.  These  belong  to  three 
diffiirent  proprietors,  though,  doubtless,  at  an  early 
period  they  formed  one  estate.  There  still  exists 
a  family  of  wealth  and  position  known  as  the 
Ordes  of  Nunnykirk.  But  the  Scotch  race  of 
*'  Orde  de  le  Orde  "  has  ceased  to  exist,  as  proprie- 
tors at  least;  and  the  name  is  uncommon  in 
Scotland. 

The  following  charter  proves  the  existence  of 
the  Scotish  "  Ordes  de  la  Orde  "  in  1435.  It  may 
be  remarked  that  Andrew  of  Orde,  the  granter,  had 
no  seal,  and  was  obliged  to  procure  a  loan  the  seal 
of  that  "  provident  man  "  W  illiam  Harper,  notary 
public;  who,  at  the  date  of  the  writ,  was  a 
"  writer  "  or  attorney  in  the  Burgh  Court  of  Had- 
dington. The  previous  owner  of  the  Banffshire 
Orde  y$eA  called  John  Davison,  father  of  Andrew 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«>«  S.  IX.  March  9,  li. 


Orde,  who  transfers  his  right  to  his  brother 
Duncan.  This  is  curious,  as  showing  the  re- 
pudiation of  the  surname  of  Davison  and  sub- 
stitution of  the  territorial  name  of  Orde  in  its 
stead.*  It  also  establishes  the  existence  of  a 
Burgh  Court  in  1435  in  tUe  county  town,  prov- 
ing that  lliiddin^ton  must  have  been  a  place  of 
importance,  until  it  was  destroyed  next  century  by 
the.  English  forces  under  the  Earl  of  Hertford. 

**  Omnibu'*  h.inc  Cartam  visuris  vrl  audituri.s  Andrcis 
<le  Onle  filius  (luondHni   Jonnnis  Davi-fon  de  le  Erde, 
flalutcm  in  Domino  sompiternam.    i:^oiati.s  mc  non  vi  uut 
ractu  (iurtum,  nee  crrure  lapsuni,  sed  inea  mera  ct  spon- 
tanea voluntatc,  decUsao,  concesawse,  ot  hac  present!  carta 
mea  confirmasse,  dilccto  fratri  meo  Duncano  dc  lo  Orde, 
Totum  .Tus  et  clametim,  proprietatf-m,  et  pop>*cs)»ioneni, 
qae  et  quas  habco,  seu  quouismodo  halxTG  potero  in  futu- 
rum,  iu  ct  ad  terms  de  Ic  Orde,  cum  pertiuenciis  jacentes 
infra  vicecumitatum  de  Bamte,  ita  quod  ego  predictus 
Andrea."),  nee  lieredcs  mei  neo  aliquits  nostro  nomine, 
aliquod  jus  vcl   ciameum  in  beredltatc  nee  possession e 
in  dieti^  terrLs  de  le  Orde  nee  in  aliqua  parte  ejusdcm 
cxigere  poterimus   ciuovisniodo  venderc,   se<l  ab  cisdem 
tcrri.HsuTiiu9exehisiin  perpctuiim.  In  cujusrci testimonium 
qaia  si^illum  propriuni  non  habui  vendere,  si^^illum  pro- 
vidi  viri  Will»lmi  Ilarpar,  bur^ensi.s  du  Garmilton  (?), 
notarii  pul»H'-i  ac  scribi-e,  curi;i*  liurpalia  de  Iladyn^on, 
magna  ouni  iu<»tantia  procuravi  npj^oni.    Coram  hiis  tes- 
tibus,  llngone  Sprote,  Thoma  rollMne,  ot  Kicardrfrlorico, 
bur^'nsibus  de   lladynjjton,  Tlmnia    Iluntar,  Willelmo 
SU'Ti-'On  [Stevenson],  Joanne  d«*  [Turrjibu-sf  cum  multis 
aliis  tcstibns  ad  premissa  vocati-:  ^pcvialitiir  ot  ro;;atis. 
Apud  Iladynjrtim,  decimf>  quarto  die  nicnsis  Julii,  anno 
JJomiiii  milK-ssinio  qiiadringcntnsitnn  trece.<imo  (juinto." 

The  Ordtjs  continued  in  iho  county  of  luanfi' I 
for,  at  least,  nior^}  than  a  ccntiirv  aflvrwards :  for 
upon  June  10,  loijS,  Elizabeth  ()idi\  daughter  and 
heiress  of  Jaiufs  Onlo,  p<^rtioii'?r  of  that  ilk,  was 
served  heir  of  her  fathi^r  in  vnrious  tonemnnts  afid 
lands  apparently  of  couMdeniblo  vjilun,  within  tlio 
burgh  of  nanir,  b(»foro  Sir  fieori^o  Ogilvy  of  Dun-  , 
lugus,  provost,  and  the  mn'ristrat^'s  »)f  that  royal  I 
burgh.  On  this  occasion  Jaine-*  Orde  a^">pear»'d  ' 
for  h(;r  as  **  tutor  de  jure  et  facto."  J.  IM.     ' 

Not  an'svv'kkixg  Li:tteks. — I  liave  always  held 
the  negh'ct  of  answeiin^  letters  iucxcusahU?  upon 
all  the  ordin.-iry  pretence;^.  Illin\<s,  great  ])ressuro 
of  ad'airs  and  absolute  want  of  time  are  just  ex- 
cuses; but  these  can  rarely  be  alleged  with  truth 
in  rompari.?on  with  the  multitude  of  cases  where 
the  real  cau.-e  is  iudnh'nn^  and  want  of  friendship. 
St.  Jerome  <Miu}plains  in  his  Kpi.>l.  Ixxxii.  to  Mar- 
cellinus  and  An;r,>-yohi.i>;  of  thi-ir  neghjcting  to 
write,  in  laiigua;re  whirh  would  very  forcibly 
apply  iu  t'»o  many  ca«es  in  our  days  : — 

"Non  uv^  p<i'nit<?t  impud«Mti.»\  (ni.i,  ta<'entibu<»  vobis 
cpistolas  mi"i.s  froriuonlcr  hi:,'t."i>i,  ut  rij-iiTijituni  meron'r, 

*  Nisbot's  Ileraidri/,  vol.  i.  p.  IJ.Jii.  IMinburgh,  1722. 
Folio. 

•f  This  name  is  almost  illo^iblo;  but  i.^  cimjccturcd  to 
Ix^  De  Turribus,  the  last*  four  letters  being  distinctly 
**  ibus."  The  notary's  !«eal  is  still  'appended,  but  the 
flhield  is,  as  regards  what  was  upon  it,  very  badly  injured. 


et  vos  esse  sospites,  non  aliis  nimciantibu^  sed  vestro  {Kh 
tissimum  scmiune  cugnoscerem." 

The  writer  of  this  paragraph  has  never  bad  to 
re{froach  himself  with  this  fault.  In  the  course 
of  a  long  life  he  can  recollect  only  one  instance  in 
,which,  for  some  cause  not  now  remembered,  he 
had;  contrary  to  his  custom,  delayed  answering  a 
friend's  letter ;  and  to  pacify  him  he  began  his 
response  at  last  with  the  following  parody  on  the 
"  Woodpecker,"  after  stating  that  he  had  found 
his  friend's  letter : — 

"  I  know  by  the  dirt  that  so  greasefully  lined 

All  its  corners  and  sides,  that  an  answer  was  due; 
And  T  .'•aid  if  a  sheet  in  my  desk  I  can  And, 
My  pen  that  is  readv  shall  fdl  it  for  vou." 

F.  C.  IL 

GroRCJi:  Fi:rrkrs. — Very  little  is  known  of 
this  interesting  old  worthy.  He  was  bom  at  St. 
Alban's,  educated  at  Oxford,  studied  at  Lincoln's 
Inn,  and  was  patronised  by  Lord  Cromwell.  He 
was  appointed  "Lord-  of  the  Pastimes  in  the 
King's  llouse,  Nov.  1552,"  and  died'  at  Flam- 
stead,  in  Hertfordshire,  in  1579. 

In  one  of  Thorpe's  catalogues  of  MSS.  (1833, 
p.  40)  occurs  this  entry :  — 

**  A  Warrant  for  delivoriug  to  two  of  our  cbiMren  tbtt 
were  of  our  chaiK'l,  William  Alderson  and  Arthur  Lov- 
kync,  bi'in;:  at  our  finding  with  Dn.  Fibres,  thre«  yards 
of  tawncy  for  a  gown,  &c.    Richmond,  Dec.  1^,  1510." 

It  is  suggested  in  a  note  that  this  Dr.  Ferresy 
or  Ferrers,  was  the  father  of  George  Ferrers— a 
ccmjecture  worthy  «jf  notice  for  the  future  bio- 
graphy of  this  old  *'  lawyer,  poet,  and  historian.*' 

Edward  F.  Himbauli. 


foliih  is  the  name  of  a  peculiar  vegetable  substance 
(pith)  of  which  such  fopefis  or  hats  are  made,  and 
tlie  latter  are  not  called  solar  because  they  protect 
the  head  from  the  solar  ravs.  '         S. 

TnK  Tyrruine  Odv.. — The  unease  of  Milton'i 
version  is  not  more  opposite  to  the  movement  of 
its  original  than  to  the  **  free  thought "  of  his  own 
harmonious  numbers,  but  .the  grammatical  and 
idiomatic  dillerenr^s  of  the  two  languages  embsi^ 
rati-si'd  his  litvralHy,  Had  he  Anglicised  Hortce 
in^tt'ad  of  Latini/iug  himself,  he  would  havesn* 
ri'ched  our  national  p»)etry  with  one  other  matchle* 
lyric. 

Tlu)  peculiar  characteristhcs  of  Milton's  Latini^ 
have  induced  nie  to  attempt  a  translation  of  tb* 
ode,  slightly  graduating  his  metre,  13,  8,  %^\ 
the  sake  of  the  *'  dying  *  fall,"  frequently  essentW 
to  the  rhythm  of  lyric  verse,  especially  when  i***" 
rhymed  and  framed  in  irregular  measures. 

*  "  That  strain  again  :-4t  had  a  dying  flkH' 

filofe 


4^S.IX.Mabch9,720 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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a 


In  behalf  of  these  my  opinions — heresies  some 
may  account  them — I  ask  the  unusual,  but  not 
wholly  unprecedented  (S'^'*  S.  ii.  210),  favour  of  a 
place  m  the  classic  repertory  of ''  N.  &  Q."  though 
not  generally  open  to  tbe  poetical  fancies  of  its 
correspondents : — 

"  THE  PYRRHIXB  ODE. 

•*  What  dainty  vouth,  reclined  on  many  a  rose 
And  sprent  with  dewy  sweets,  doth  woo  thee  non% 
Lady,  in  yon  close  bower  ?  for  whom 
Braided  is  thy  bri<;ht  hair, 
Nice  in  its  negligence  ?    How  soon,  alas ! 
Will  he  o*er  mutable  faith  and  fortunie  mourn,  • 
And  wonder  at  the  darkness  strange 
Of  the  storm-fretted  <leep— 

He,  who  now  reveli  in  thy  wealth  of  love. 
Deeming  thee  all  his  *  own,  and  ever  kind, 
Regarding  not  the  treacherous  gale ! 
Ill-destined  thev,  whotrv. 
Unwarned,  thy  witclieries — me  the  sacred  wall 
Shows  on  a  votive  tablet  to  have  hung 
My  sea-drenched  garments  dt^dicate  f 
To  Him  who  rules  the  wave. 

Edmund  Lexthall  Swifte. 

# 

'*  To  CrT  OFF  one's  Nose,''  etc. — In  a  MS.  copy 

of"  Peter  of  Blois's  treatise,  *'  Super  niniia  dila- 

cionie  Jerosolimitani  itiueris,"  written  in  the  four- 

*^«n"tii  century,  I  have  met  with  tbe  following 

early  example  of  this  saying — viz. 

**_In  medio  pepuli  tui  proverbium  vulgare  est,  male 
^ciscitur  dedecussibi  illatum  qui  amputat  nasuni  suum." 

s.  s. 

X^UNi^DfG  Mottoes. — On  Feb.  1  a  meeting  of 

^e   school    board    was    held    at  the  Guildhall, 

^  orcester,  chietiy  to  discuss  the  objection  raised 

"7  Mr.  Witherington,  architect,  against  Mr.  Day, 

^'^hitect.     These  two  gentlemen-  had  competed 

^th  thirty-four  other  architects  for  premiums 

^«ered  by  the  brlard  for  projected  schools,  and 

^c  first  two  prizes  had  been  awarded  to  them. 

^'' Witherinjrton  objected   to  the  award  being 

^J^e  to  Mr.  l>ay,  because  the  motto  under  which 

*^  plans  had  been  exhibited  was  **'  De  Die  ";  and 

*®  Urged  that,  as  Mr.  Day  Was  a  local  man,  the 

jj^tto  would  indicate  his  name  to  the  board.  The 

^•itl,  under  the  chairmanship  of  Mr.  G.   \V. 

^•«ting3,  overruled  the  objection  and  appC)inted 

^«  Bay  their  architect.  Cuthbeut  IJede. 

"Eileen  Aroon." — Dr.  RiMnArLT  (ix.  00) 
**6rt8  that  the  "  Irish  air  known  asiV/tr//  ArooHf 
*5^b)P other  names  .  .  was  revived  to  the  words 
!»'Robin  Adair '  bv  Braham  in  1811."  An  article 
J|^\.  &  Q."  (3'*»*S.  vi.  35)  shows  very  clearly 
?*t  the  words  to  this  air  were  composed  before 
Mini's  time,  their  author  being  Mr.  St.  Leger^ 
^<jf  Sir  John  St.  Ijeger;  and  the  characters 
ij^''^®^  ^^  ^*  proye  this,  as  they  were   St. 

'*'•.••  fiuting  maids,  whose  minds  are  dedicate 
to  aodiios  temporal." 


Leger's  personal  friends  and  contemporaries.   Tb» 
true  version  commences :  — 

"  You  are  welcome  to  Puckstovm,* 

Robin  Adair ! 
You  are  welcome  to  Puckstowo, 

Kobin  Adair ! 
How  does  Johnny  Mac>el  f  do. 
Aye,  and  Luke  Gardiner  J  too  V 
Why  did  they  not  come  with  vou  ? 

Kobin  Adair ! 

C.  S.  £l. 

"Gods  have  taken  Shapes  of  Beasts. — 

**  Florizeh  The  gods  themdelve9 

Humbling  their  deities  to  love,  have  taken 
Tbe  shapes  of  beasts  upon  them." 

Winter's  Tale,  Act  IV.  Sc.  3. 

Here  Shakespeare  seems*  to  have  adopted  or 

remembered  literally  the  passage  in  one  of  Lyly'» 

play's,  where  Tyterus  says :  — 

"  To  gaine  love,  the  gods  have  taken  shapes  of  beasts.'' 

Gailathdt,  Act  I.  Sc.  1. 

W.  L.  RusnTON. 

Free  Translation.  —  In  the  remarkable  Tich- 
borne  case  I  read — '*  When  asked  the  meaning  of 
laus  Deo  semper,  the  claimant  said  it  meant  ^  The 
laws  of  God  for  ever,  or  permanently '  (laughter.") 
This  reminds  me  of  a  no  less  ludicrous  answer 
given  by  a  French  Sir  Roger,  who,  being  asked 
to  translate  mtmero  Dens  impare  gaudetj  unheaita- 
tiuffly  replied  **  Le  num^ro  deux  se  r^iouit  d'etre 


gly  replied 


impair 


P.  A.  K 


Wordsworth's  "Primrose." — No  lines  have- 
been  more  quoted  than  the  following,  which  occur 
in  Peter  Bell :— 

**  A  primrose,  by  the  river's  brim, 
A  yellow  primrose  w^as  to  hiin, 
And  it  was  nothing  more.'' 

In  the  well-known  song,  "  Life  let  us  Clierish,'* 
which  is  translated  from  the  German  by  (I  be- 
lieve) General  Burgoyne,  we'  have  an  idea  simila 
to  that  in  Wordsworth's  poem,  viz.  — 

"  H^Iess,  by  the  lily  stray, 
That  blossoms  in  the  wav." 

As  the  song  was  published  half  a  century  or 
more  before  Peter  Bell,  may  not  Wordsworth'© 
idea  tave  been  suggested  bv  the  lines  in  the 
song  ?  STEPnEN  Jacksoit. 


*  Mr.  St.  Leger's  re^idence,  near  Dublin. 

t  Alderman  J.  Alacarrcll  of  Lissenhall,  near  DubHri, 
M.P.  for  Carlingford  from  1741  till  his  death  in  1757.  He 
served  the  office  of  high  sherifT  of  the  city  in  1723«  and 
lord  mayor  in  1739.  Owing  chiefly  to  Dean  Swift '^ 
opposition,  he  failed  in  his  candidature  to  represent  that, 
city  in  Parliament  in  1783. 

X  A  privy  councillor,  who  died  1753. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


.BEV,  TIIQS.  CROMWELL,  PH.D.,  F.S.A. 

Can  your  leoraed  correspondent  Dr.  UiucArLT  io- 
form  me  in  -what  ytAj  this  gentleman  w&s  connected 
with  the  family  of  the  Protector  ?  Doctor  Crom- 
well was  buried  in  the  cemetery  of  the  Blacli 
Friars'  Chapel,  Canterbury,  of  which  he  was  the 
minister.  He  waa  preTioualy  minister  of  tbo  Old 
Cb&pel  on  Stoke  ^lewington  Green,  Middlesex, 
and  where  be  oiRciated  for  twenty-five  yeara  after 
his  ordination  there,  lie  was  the  oiitbor  of 
JUemoira  of  Oticer  Cromwell,  by  a  Deicpiidaitt  of 
the  Family.  I  never  saw  the  work,  but  such,  T 
am  told,  was  the  title.  lie  was  nko  author  of 
Bistory  of  Ckrkemrell,  Walkt  round  Isliagtoit  (an 
wnusing  Ut  of  parocbial  goswp),  TItmtft  and  the 
Cinque  Porti,  Li/erari/  Ploici-ett,  a  Bemion  on 
CAiirvh  Mimic,  and  also  of  The  Gnrdcn  and  the 
Sepulchre — a  sermon  on  tho  deatli  nud  burial  of 
the  Duke  of  Siissei.  lie  coutiibuted  to  the 
Ue7ttiemaa«  Afiiffaziiie,  Chambers')  Journal,  and  to 
other  periodicals.  I  hnre  been  told  thnt  the 
letterpress  to  Storcr'g  Cathedrals  -vta  from  hie  pen. 
He  was  favourably  known  in  the  metropolis  and 
in  the  provinces  an  a  lecturer  on  arch molo' deal 
Bubjectfl,  particularly  on  Stonehenae.  I  hove 
beard  him  say  thnt  hc^  was  "«  descendant  of 
the  Cromwell  family."  Although  a  Dissenting 
minister,*  Dr.Cromwell  was  for  many  years  vestry 
clerk  of  Clerkenwell,  the  duties  of  which  office  ho 
fulfilled  in  an  honourable  and  impiirlial  manner. 

The  old  Puritan  chapel  cm  Ncwiiigtan  Green  is 
""*■  '"i  historical  reminiscences.     In  addition  to 


undevotional  in  appearance  u  cement,  pUater,  and 
builders'  architecture  could  make  it 

An  X  NKniotriAN  asd  Gbxeb  Miir. 


&n  elegant  but  simple  monmuent  to  Dr.  Cromwell, 
there  are  memorius  to  Ih'.  Price  (tbo  opponent 
of  Burke),  wlio  was  minister  there ;  to  >lra.  13ar- 
bauld  (whose  husband  was  minister),  aiid  to 
Samuel  Pagers  the  poet,  who  for  many  years  was 
one  of  the  worshippers  and  a  trusleo.  liesiding 
as  I  do  at  a  distance,  1  cnjinot  give  any  of  the 
dates  on  the  above  monuments.  Tho  monument 
to  Mrs.  Barbauld  was  erected  by.  the  ■'  Charles  " 
of  her  Early  Less'uif.  Doctor  Isaac  Watts  used 
occasionally  to  occupy  tho  pulpit — the  one  thnt 
happily  stilt  exists.  Uonie  ot  the  descendants  of 
Matthew  ilenry  and  of  Dr,  Samuel  Wright  (nliag 
Papal  Wright)  have  been  coimected  with  the 
plaie ;  and  Edgar  Poe,  tbo  American  poet,  when 
a  resident  on  the  "  Green,"  was  a  very  regular 
attendant,  as  was  also  flie  late  Mrs.  IScud,  a  lite- 
rary lady  well  known  in  the  "  Row''  as  a  com- 
piler and  editor.  The  exterior  of  this  old  Puritan 
"convenliclo  "  has  been  sadly  treated  by  beauti- 
liers,  and  the  interior  has  been  turned  into  an 
elepant  spruce-looking  "clLapel'' I  Indeed,  the 
entire  edifice  ia  now  aa  unseemly  and  ugly  and 


SOTHERON  QUElilES. 
I.  In  I.nwton's  Collectio  Serum  EcclenatU- 
eariim  de  Dia-ce/i  Ebaraoenci,  page  166,  refer- 
ence is  made  among  the  lost  charities  of  the 
Sarish  of  Snaith,  co.  York,  to  "  Sotheron'a  ^ft  (no 
ate),  II.  per  annum,  mentioned  in  the  retnm 
made  in  ]7>:<t>."  W'ho  was  the  donor  of  this  gift? 
I  am  inclined'  to  believe  one  of  the  Sotheroiu  of 
Dorrington,  Yorkshire,  from  the  fact  of  memben 
of  that  family  having  lived  for  some  lime  ftt 
IIookeandGoole.near  Snaith.  The  charity  ia  now 
apparently  unknown  there.  The  rector  of  Snaith 
some  time  since  infoniied  me  "  There  ie  no  charity 
or  benefaction  connected  with  this  pariah  undn 
the  appellation  of  Sotheron'a  gift." 

2,  (Jan  any  of  tiie  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  inform 
me  who  was  the  Mr.  Sotheron  mentioned  in  the 
following  extract  from  Hunter's  South  I'orkMre, 
vol,  i.  p.  'JH,  parish  of  Doocasterp — 

"lT->7.  Against  liie  proclsnution  of.  King  George  II- 
it  was  ordcivd  that  tlie  maj'or,  sidornien,  and  bnrgtaMI 
he  maantol  on  horacback,  the  maynr  and  aldenava  ia 
their  govma;  and  tliat  Sir  Gcorgt  Cooke,  Mc.  BiliB 
CoukG,  Mr.  FountayucMr.  WrigbtsoD,  llr.  Woodnu% 
Mr.  Cliildcrs,  Mr*  Copier,  Mr.  SunderUod,  uhI  lb. 
Sothcmn,  with  Ibc  g«ntlerncn  and  bot  inhalntaiiti  of  th* 
town,  he  invited;  and  that  four  doien  of  wine  bttakcB 
Dp  nnd  three  hnlf-hogahead»  of  ale,  and  be  druok  tmiat 
the  company.  The  lii|UDT  to  tie  provided  and  taktn  mf 
hv  Mr.  Cowlej-,  Mr.  Mawhood,  and  the  atawird,  and  Ibit 
tEiiy  make  a  bowl  ot  punish.  The  proceinon  wu  la  bt 
in  the  rollonrlng  order.  .  .  .  ." 

:t.  Notice  is  token  of  a  Mr.  Sothem  in 

"  Tli<>  p'rvedingc  of  the  funero]!  ot  Gtffnj  Elhn*, 
Ei<r[.,  Allderniun  ufl.ondan,  which  wai  aoleinpniagd  •■ 
Teweslay  the  11th  of  May,  11)16,  &  p'ceeded  ftxnn  IW 
Merchant  tnyBon'  Hall  (o  tlie  p'lih  chaich  .of  St 
[Swithin]  Clianninge  Slrete."~E][tracted  frDm  the  Hiii 
MS.  and  printed  in  Iloword'a  Xfiarellaitea  Get 
Heruldioi,  Quarterly  Series,  vol.  ii.  pp.  a-fl.) 

\Ytia  was  this  Sir.  Sotbcm  ?  There  is  reMOO  to  . 
think  he  was  one  of  a  family  of  Shropshire  descenL  ^ 
who  had  a  grant  of  crest  and  motto  in  1638,  m  -1 

whose  pedigree  was  entered  in  the  Ilcraldie  Y^ 

lattou  qf  London  made  in  1033-4,  _ 

Information  of  the  above  to  the  nndermatticari  -J 
address  aa  early  as  possible  will  grafttly  obli{<S  *l^^ 
also  any  other  notes  of  Sothemes  or  Sotheron^  "^  - 
of  niQuihcrs  of  families  of  somewhat  similar  iwMM 
CHABLB8  SoIESUI- 

G,  Meadow  Street,  Mois-Side,  neti  Hanchistcr. 


LOVE'3  TRIUMPH. 


lots  of  odd  Toliimet  U 


fampblets  sold  in  bundles  when  tie  library  of  fl^^ 
tev.  IJr.  Lee,  Principal  of  the  UinTeiatj  oFEfi*^ 
I  burgh  was  brought  to  the  l.unmw,  than  y^-j 
found  asmBllduodei^mo,pTin  idat. 


4>i>  a  IX.  Mabcu  9»  *72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


199 


Jlichard  Kaven^  in  yerj  wretched  order— only  one- 
half  of  the  title-page  remaining,  defective  at  the 
end,  and  wanting  one  leaf  of  "the  Author's  Faith/' 
which  is  a  sort  of  introduction  to  the  poem  that 
follows,  and  which  is  called  "  Love's  Kevenge,'' 
written,  as  we  learn  from  a  remaining  portion  of 
the  title-page,  "  by  Joss.  Speed." 

Not  having  been  so  fortunate  as  to  procure  any 
account  of  uiis  production,  I  have  ventured  to 
trouble  ^'N.  &  Q."  to  ascertain  if  anything  is 
known  about  a  poem  far  from  deficient  in  merit, 
and  the  versification  of  which  is  more  harmonious 
than  usually  is  the  case  at  the  time  if  was  pub- 
lished, which,  ks  the  date  is  torn  off^  was  pernaps 
before  1G40.  The  preface,  in  rhyme,  is  as  fol- 
lows : — 

**When  darkne.«9e  is  supprest  by  lij;lit 

That  night's  block  shadows*  shun  the  day  ; 
TruQ  faith  doth  give  the  soul  a  sight 
To  see  and  finde  the  living  way. 

**  Then  must  proud  Death  give  place  to  lifOi 
In  vain  it  is  his  strength  to  trj', 
For  Hope  will  end  that  deadly  strife. 
And  swallow  Death  in  victory. 

**  And  EVrour  must  acknowledge  truth 
For  all  his  fierce  and  cruel  rage. 
For  love  hath  threatened  him  in  yonth. 
And  will  not  spare  him  in  his  age. 

**  When  Faith  hath  light  for  to  discern, 
And  Hope  can  hold  in  storm  and  rain, 
If  Love  be  there  to  guide  the  stem. 
The  wi^h^d  shore  they  shall  attain : 
ISo  travel  can  unfruitful  prove 
When  Faith  and  Hope  do  work  by  love. 

**  When  unbelief  is  beaten  down, 

And  faith  has  got  the  upper  hand, 
Then  light  doth  shew  true  faith  her  crown  • 
Which  she  shall  have  if  she  do  stand* 

**  And  then  despair  of  force  must  flic — 

In  vain  it  is  if  she  contend, 

For  she  will  give  Hope  victory 

If  she  continue  to  the  end. 

"And  Hatred  must  of  force  depart, 

And  give  true  liove  free  place  to  dwell. 
For  Truth  will  give  Love  true  desert. 
And  Hatred  due  reward  in  hell. 
"  Light  is  the  glance  of  Faith's  clear  sight. 
Life  is  the  crown  which  Hope  requires. 
Truth  is  tlie  guide  which  leades  both  right 
Through  Love  to  fmish  their  desires. 

Where  Light  and  Life  and  Truth  agree 
Faith,  Hope,  and  Love  make  unitie.** — J.  S. 

The  address  to  the  reader  commences  thus : — 

*'Let  prejudice  be  laid  aside 

Christian  reader,  in  tlvj)*  reading, 
Let  love  unfained  be  thy  guide, 
■     Thy  thoughts  to  equal  judgment  lea<ling  ; 
The  labour  and  the  cliarge  is  mine, 
I  wish  the  profit  may  be  thine." 

It  would  appear  that  the  poem  was  printed 
at  Amsterdam,  by  Richard  Haven,  at  the  charye 
of  the  writer,  and  was  circulated  by  himself,  there 
being  no  bookseUer  named  as* vendor.  J.  M. 

[Thifl  work  was  printed  bv  John  Raven,  Amsterdam, 
in  1631.  At  Jolley'8  sale  in  1844  it  fetched  4/.  A  copy 
b  in  the  Bodleian,  i 


Sfbangxr  Babrj. — ^The  following  is  endorsed 
on  a  portrait^  said  to  be  one  of  this  celebrated 
actor:  — 

**  This  is  engraved,  very  rare.  The  engraving  I  saw 
in  Tomer's  (of  Gloucester),  illustrated  Shakespeare,  and 
in  Franko*8  collection.  Turner's  book  sold  at  Pattick's 
for  495/.  a  few  weeks  ago." 

This  notice  is  dated  Sept.  20, 1800. 

Is  it  known  who  now  possesses  the  volumes  of 
Turner  referred  to  ?  I  should  also  like  to  know 
something  of  Franko*s  collection.  My  object  is 
to  obtain  a  sight  of  the  engraving  in  question^ 
and  I  shall  feel  much  indebted  to  any  one  who 
will  enable  me  to  carry  out  my  wish. 

Charles  Wylib. 

[The  portrait  is  very  uncommon ;  it  is  after  Sir  Joshua 
Kevnokls  by  Harding,  and  will  be  found  briefly  described 
in  l£vans*s  Catabgue.  It  is  wanting  in  the  National  Col- 
lection of  Sir  Joshua's  works ;  but  in  the  Bumey  Colleen 
tion  of  Theatrical  FortraiU  (voL  L  p.  67,  No.  155),  an 
impression  is  inserted,  unfortunately  cut  close  to  the  mar- 
ginal line,  and  consequently  the  inscription  is  wanting.] 

BoADiCEA. — The  Hev.  B.  Parsons,  in  hb  AtUi^ 

Bacchus  (p.  01),  gives  a  quotation  from  the  speech 

of  Boadicea  to  the  Ancient  Britons :  — 

'<  To  us  every  herb  and  root  is  food,  every  juice  is  cor 
oil,  and  every  stream  of  water  our  wine.** 

As  I  cannot  find  the  quotation  in  Tacitus^  I 
should  feel  obliged  to  be  informed  in  what  trans- 
lation the  passage  occurs.  K.  E.  Way. 

[^The  passage  occurs  in  Dion  Cassias — vide  Rekker*8 
edition,  **  Tomus  Alter,  Lipsn,  mdcccxliz.*'  p.  239— and. 
runs  as  follows :  — 

iiiu¥  Z\  ^  %affa  fi^v  irda  K<d  Ufa  airos  i<rrl^  vat  iik 
X^M^f  ikatov^  Trvw  8i  88«p  dvos,  vaif  Hh  ^ivZpov  ouc/a.] 

"  Brook  Oreen  Volunteer." — ^In  what  peri- 
odical is  this  character  to  be  found,  and  how  is  it 
correctly  applied?  I  heard  a  man  lately  re- 
proached as  being  a  Brook  Green  volunteer. 

S.  Q. 

[Our  correspondent  may  learn  all  about  the  '*  Brook 
Green  Volunteer "  and  his  exploits  by  reference  to  the 
early  volumes  of  Punch,  or  the  engravings  of  the  late 
John  Leech.] 

"  Catus  A3IAT  Pisces." — 

*'  Letting  /  dare  not  wait  upon  J  would. 
Like  the  poor  cat  i'  the  adage." 

Macbeth,  Act  I.  Sc.  7. 

Staunton  gives  the  adage :  — 

"  Catus  amat  pisccs,  seil  non  vult  tingere  plantas.*' 

Can  any  of  your  readers  inform  me  where  thia 

Latin  proverb  is  to  be  found  ?    Staunton  gives  no 

refereuco.  '  T. 

City  State  Barges.  —  Are  there  any  state 
barges  now  ?  and  do  the  City  companies  use  the 
dressed  barges  (that  were  formerly  iised)  for  the 
old  ceremouy  of  swan-hopping  on  the -Thames.^ 

[The  conservancy  of  the  river  Thamea  •««»  ^«J«A.  \tsl 
the  Lord  Mayor  of  London  Ys^  \!ki%  ^Yv»i\Kt  oil  ^\Oqax^\^ 


sw 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIE& 


Jtly  14, 1197 ;  bat  the  pomr  ww  tnntfemd  to  «  ptid 
Board  by  the-Conterrancr  Act,  20  Ail  VIetori*,  c  47, 
Aag.  17,  ISb-,  on  which  the  COrpantion  aold  lU  ttuir 
Mate  bu^e*.  There  ■re  nbw  only  two  of  tb(  LtT»ty 
Compuiiea  whkh  still  rantinue  ths  nra  of  thdr  itati  or 
dreURl  birj^n.  En  whlL-h  tbev  proceed  up  the  Thamei 
in  the  month  of  AuRUBt,  «cconip«nied  by  Her  M^esty's 
•wiDherd,  to  mark  their  emna.  Ths  Vintner*'  CompiD.v 
tw  tnjojed  the  riffht  ■inoe  lo09— the  Dyers'  Compaay 
tat  even  a  longer  period.] 

"  Thb  Club,"  iit  J»me8  Pucile.— G.  S.  S. 
'wialies  to  leHrn  how  manj  editions  of  this  work 
'hare  boen  printed  beyond  those  ben.'  mentioned : 
Two  of  1711;  two  ofl713(ono  lettered  3rd  ed.); 
4HM  of  1721,  Cork  (reprinted  from  3rd  London 
«d.);  one  17^1;  two  17:V;,  lettered  5th  edit.; 
qnu  without  Ante,  niso  lettered  5th  ed. ;  one  1743, 
Dublin,  lettered  7th  <^. ;  twri  modem  itlmtrBt«d 
editions  181!  nnd  lA-{4.  He  bnt<  seen  all  these 
impieMionis  except  that  mentioned  bj  dinger, ■date 
172:t.  Of  this  he  muchdeBirei'  n  description.  He 
hM  further  to  innuitL'  whep!  Sinfn'r  obtained  bis 
.  information  Ihiit  the  aiithor  tvm  "a notary  public, 
living  in  chambers,  and  at  one  time  of  (jreot  re- 
putation for  integrity." 

[Connuli  the  Grnffcrn..!.-.  .Vaqa:Uf,  vol.  xcli.  part  1. 
p.  aO-L] 

CH.ircEu's  KsowLEtiGB  ot  Itai.iax. — Doubla 
havu  becu  riu^ed  on  this  eubject  by  Sir  Harria 
Nicolas,  in  his  Ufa  uf  ChniKir,  in  onpniiition  to 
the  flows  of,Godwin  nnd  Wnrton.  OoTioiisly  the 
question  cannot  bo  (lef;ide(l  by  Chaucer's  harin^ 
borrowed  (Irinelda  and  other  ta|p.*  froiu  tlio  De- 
■Moiivon,  OS  he  may  Iwve  been  indfthted  for  them 
!o  Petrarch's  Latin 'translation.  Neither  can  much 
be  infcfred  from  his  baviu<:  paraphrased  in  his 
Traiha  ami  Crrseide  the  two  tine  lines  of  Dante's  ' 
JPrnnvetca  da  Eimim  on  the  fpntt  of  joys  remcoi'  ' 
bered,  ^ince  Boulhius  may  bavo  liu^'ested  them  to  ! 
both  poets.  ; 

There  remains,  however,  Chaucer's  story  of  ' 
Q>ttHt  T'ljiiUnOy  avowedly  taken  from  Dante,  with  [ 
umplest  TPciitriiition  of  his  frrcat  merits ;  and  it  is  : 
tfertftin  that  Chaucer  must  have  had  the  original 
before  him,  as  ui)  Latin  translation  existed  in  Lis 
day.  It  was  only  on  the  sujr^stion  i)f  two  Knjr-  ■ 
liA  bishopsattheOuuncilof  Constance,  A. v.  1414,  - 
that  a  Latin  version  was  made  of  Dante,  and  ' 
Chaucor  had   then  boen  fourteen  years  in  his 

Wo  mif^lit  add,  if  it  were  at  all  necess.iry,  that  i 
Ilia  Paliiiiiuii  and  An-llc  is  largely  indebted  to  j 
the  Italian  iJoem  of  Iticcncio,  unless  we  prefer  I 
sappoaiuf;  that  Chaucer  had  read  the  version  of  it  I 
10  fjreek,  which  is  highly  improbable.  | 

A.  COVBSTET.     I 

-   DrvoncK. — TiVhat  is  tho  recognised  mode   of 

addressing  a  divorced  T^'oman  who  has  not  mar-. 

'•A.  again  P  She  bos,  I  presume,  forfeited  the  ^^^ 

Ittar  &e  name  of  the  mao  who  wat  herbu^^**'^ 


and  moat  tbeiefore  resume  her  oriripil  P>tn>- 
DTDuc  But  is  aha  (to  repeat  Mr.  WiildeColliDt'i 
Qiristinaa  inquiry)  "Miss  or  Mn."P  I  ahonld 
suppose  the  latter ;  forthe  designation  of  aeplnater 
is  mcompalible  with  the  fact  that  she  bos  been 
married,  and  may  be  the  mnther  of  legitimate 


"  Lady  Jakb  D  us  das,  "—Where  can  I  find  an 

account  of  thn  loss  of  the  "  Lady  Jane  DundM  " 
l^t  Indiaman  ? 

It  is  believed  that  she  foundered  near  Mada- 
gascar in,  I  tliink,  1807.  3It  graadfather  perished 
iu  her;  but  I  iiave  never  Wu  able  to  find  an 
account  of  the  circumstniicas. 

TUK    K-MOUT   OV  UOKAB. 

MlSTRESii  Eleyn,  —  Who  was  tho  Mistress 
Elevn  who,  with  Mistress  Kliwibeth  Tylney,  at- 
tended to  and  on  the  scatfold  their  niistre^  the 
l^y  Jane  GreyP  See  The  Chronicle  of  Qmen 
Jane  byJ.G.  Nichols,  Esq.  (Cauiden  Society), 
p.  06.  8.  M.  S. 

I"ks  Lakks  or  SrERES.— -\re  aoy  of  these  re- 
maining, and  if  so,  in  wlint  parts  of' the  Fens  ore 
Oiey  fiuind  ?  What  is  their  extent.  &c.  't  An 
answer  will  much  oWige  ViATOB  (1.) 

Oakvisov. — What  is  the  derivation  of  thia 
Yorkshin'  word !"  Marg<>ry  Jloorpnnt,  iu  the  fareo 
of  the  Jiryitter()ffKe,  tells  Gul  well  that  "  a  gnw 
vison  is  a  niunyhouuner ; "  but  Margery's  expla- 
nation does  not  solve  my  nuestinn.  It  only 
reaehes.the  meaning.  SrKl'iira'  Jack^OM'. 

"  CI  r.sii.E." — What  plant  or  flower  is  meant  by 
■■  gentle,''  ivhii'h  oppurs  in  the  chorus  to  an  old 
ballad  inserted  iu  "  X,  &  Q."  (I'"  S,  iv.  517),  and 
where  it  llgures  with  the  gillyflower  and  rose- 
mary? A  MrRirniAN. 
Jons  Gorr.DSMVTH,  <Tori.DsiiiTii,  or  Oold- 
suiTii,  of  Xaniwith  and  Stapeley  Manor,  Che- 
shire.—  Information  is  desirt'd  respecting  this 
gentleman,  who  .was  n  lawyer  flourishing  in  the 
latter  half  of  tho  sevunteeiitii  century  —  as  to 
whether  he  was  attorney,  borri.^ter,  master  in 
Chancery,  or  engaged  in  some  other  branch  of  the 
legal  profession!'  Also  as  to  when  and  where  ho 
died  ?  (It  is  ntppoted  bis  death  occurred  before 
I7I2.>  Also  respMlin^  his  marriage  with  EUza- 
beth  Cone  in  101*1,  brbeved  to  be  hw  second  mar- 
riage. Ills  note-book  shows  him  to  have  been. 
engaged  in  collecting  rents  in  the  city  of,  London  ' 
inimcdintely  before  the  great  fire  of  IROO.  It  is 
probable  that  he  bad  a  house  iu  Norfolk  Street, 
Strand.  His  sun.  Dr.  Jouethan  Oouldsmith,  died 
therein  17^2.  T.  E.  S. 
"  Hear  !  hisar  ! " — ^What  is  the  earliest  date  of, 
and.  reason  for,  tbo  use  of  the  word  "  hear,  hear," 
ai  evidence  of  Mtisfoction  with  or  appremlioB  of 


«»  S.  IX.  March  9,  -72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


s,  4cP    I 


nrlilev-  was  »nc™™l  bv  I.utc 
1  lo  the  Kin;  of  PruHsis ;  ^iit  Ihc 


tsaj  part  or  parte  of  a  speech  < 

am  ationgly  of  opmioD  that  thi 

"here,  here,"  ana  will  point  out  why  ou  another 

ocMiUKi.     I  am  quite  aware  that  the  some  word 

"beat"    u    uied  in  Welsh ~t.  «.  aa  meaning 

"listen."  ■  T.  Wooldsidob. 

HoaaETH. — I  hare  ktelv  seen  an  engraTiag 
liam  the  picture  of  "  The  Uarch  of  the  Guards  to 
Kinchlej,  vhich  was  called  the  "  Sunday  print,'' 
and  described  as  "  exceed! nf^lj  scarce."  Informn- 
tion  on  this  subject  will  oblige 

Charleh  Wtlir. 
[-The  U«r.h 
Hulliviin,  itid  (lei 

word  I'rus'iis  wua  Kgielt  wilh  wie  I'niilylo  iliuu  prints 
dtUrercil  tu  thit  aubscribitr*.  A  fcir  early  impressiuni 
were  ilatMl  "iHitli  UiwAiibi'r,  ITM";  but  tlw  iltlib  being 
uo  that  vcnr  [lu  u  Siinils.v,  it  Has  sltuiLiI  to  tlie  ^Jlsl.  Ill 
Mirihall's  mlu,  in  IKII4,  an  imprriuiion  in  tbis  earlvstute 
tealiHcd  r.l.  U».  OJ.  Sue  "X.  *  IJ."  'J""  S.  i.  5(iS.]' 
Kkuckt.]:jk>s)h :  Duo. — What  is  tbis  game? 
U.K. 
[KnucklpbuiiFs  is  a  s-ime  pbyed  bj  HFhodboy*  with 
flvii  kDorlilebnnea  <if  shi^p.  Tlie  art  chirtlr  caasMa  in 
muiipiilttiiii;  the  others  wliUu  one  Is  b»lni;'tbrawn  Inio 
the  air  befiiTe  boiiiK  cau^it.  It  is  {■I'ncmlly  nlsyrd  liy 
twn— one  takini;  up  when  the  uthrr  tail*.  Tlitrc  ni'g 
Mme  tw#Dt7  dillennt  feutr.and  he  whollret  f^tt  tll^>lll;h 
tbete  bus  tbe  name.  It  sbuulii  be  plsvcd  on  a  flat  tatjle, 
vltb  a  hl);h  i^tini;,  as  tlie  iilajf  r  han'  suructimeA  a  KOiid 
(bal  to  da  while  the  kRiickUWud  is  in  the  air.  The  ^ame 
iswimelimes  cullnl  DilM.  In  Dp.  Vux'a  Stalnlps  (i-bap. 
;<.'!ix.)<  tlic  stnileDti  are  liiTliiililcii  to  jJav  the  pame  of 
Dilm.  Tbat  Urand  waijuftitled  iDMyiiip'in  hls7%>/iHhr 
.laliiinitlri  lliat  the  ffaiiic  Ii  nf  vriy  remote  antiquity, 
nay  lieDFen  by  a  refervni'n'tn'llr.  Sniilh'a  I/irtlomarji  nf 
Gnd  and  Iloiiiiia  AHtinHilii*,  a.  v.  "  AsTii.ViiAi.t's  "  and 
■'TALO^"^l<l^»^r^p'«''''^■ 'be  Inlfcr,  whi;pp  the  K"nic  « 
Tcry  lolly  triiti^I  of,  the  artiiJe  lirinj;  Ulurlraled  with  an 
«nj:iaviiq;urawuiiiuu  plnyiiig  ii.1 

The  Istbttok  of  Lrcivint  Mathies.  —  Tho 
pantfrrnph  quoted  by  It.  W.  II.  N.  (4'"  S.  is.  ii'-t), 
which,  if  I  nm  not  roistaliKD,  appeared  originallr 
in  the  Pall  Mull  Giizttlr,  dues  not  dii<close  the  tiAm*e 
of  the  chemist  who  turned  llr.  Isnao  Iloldeti's 
"happy  thought ''  to  acrount  liy  priHliieinir  iucifer 
nialchi:i>.  1  may  stnto,  however,  that  thi-  hinioiir 
bos  been  claimud  for  a  Mr.  John  Walker,  an 
apothecary  of  StocktoO'on-Tees,  who  died  at  an 
advanced  ago  about  twelve  yenr.H  ngo.  In  a  small 
work  entitled  Tht  Ammlt  of  SliK.-klon-oii-Tett, 
written  and  publiahed  by  tlio  late  Mr.  Henry 
Ileaviaidea  (a  poet  and  author  of  some  local  note) 
in  1SK5, 1  fiud  on  p.  105  the  following  notice  of 
Mr.  Walker:— 

"Ur.  Walhtr  oceu|>ie<l  Tor  many  years  the  SDisU  shop, 
19.  High  Strret,  whi-rc  tic  carripil  on  ilie  bu«iiiW3  or  an 
apothecary,  for  which  he  was  well  qnalilicd,  having  nerved 

kis  apprentieiship  untler  Dr.  Ak'iick jteinc  a 

tolerable  chemist,  and  taking  iiiui'li  ileli);ht  in  Btudyin^ 
tbe  properties  or  phosphorm.  probably  led  to  his  invon- 
tion  of  what  are  called  '  Lucit'er  Mutches.'  biit  why  so 
t^lcd  I  BCTer  canld  dofinp.    Thisa  matches  he  mid  for 


box,  and  thus  tealiilDK  a  roitnne,  he'  ntitcd  front  buu- 
ness.    Ha  ditd  on  the  lu  Uiy,  1859,  sgol  wveiiCytit^t 

I  have  no  meana  myeelf  of  verirving  Mr. 
Walker's  claim  to  the  honour  of  beiny  the  original 
iuveutor,  but  during'  a  remdence  of  aoiiie  aeven 
years  in  and  near  Stockton  I  fie<jueutly  beard  hia 
name  associated  with  the  inviuitiuii.  I'erhaps 
some  of  the  readers  of  ■'  N.  &.  Q."  wilt  bi-  able  to 
throw  a  little  additional  light  upon  the  subject  of  ' 
the  relative  clcduis  of  Mr.  Huldcu,  or  the  London 
chemiat,  aud  Mr.  Walker. 

Al£SASI>ER  rATERSOH. 
Barnniev,  Yorkj.  , 

Levi;!.!*  oy  BiiiaABoKS.— AVoiild  J.  H.  L.  A 

give  ine  any  iuforuiaticiii  respecting  tbis  fauiilv 
from  tlie  records  nf  lljirbadoija,  or  nay  where  1 
could  obtain  such?  Ai  a  defcendant  of  the 
Lovilis'  of  Trove,  I  feel  an  intere>t  therein. 

S.  Vo'^rLK-Tuonaal 

XewBoroush,  Wiuibomc. 

Mbd.1l,  1005,— The  mention  of  the  Molasworth 
medal,  struck  in  comuienioratiun  of  the  saving  of 
the  iil'e  of  tbe  Duke  of  Matlfaoroiigh  at  lluiniUies, 
suggests  an  inquiry  ri'^pectiiiif  a  snmewlint  Himilar 
niedal  in  my  pOMossioii.  It  bi^arM  a  aliieki  aod 
crest  with  the  inscription  "  llpuricus  Wrede  Cen- 
turio  Eqiiitura";  aud  on  the  revcrsj,  around 
another  sliield  and  crest,  "t^uoii  se  pro  Rego 
devovit.  Ad  Kerkbolm,  U»o."  Il  in  i.bout  tho 
sizi!  of  iiur  half-H.TOiMi,  and  of  very  good  work- 
manship, c.  u. 

■Mcsico  Qtridiisi.  —  1  have   bnn  favoured 

with  tlie  perusal  of  aouio  MW^uotcs  of  a  person    ' 

of  distinction  in  the  early  pail  uf  tlio  I'ijjliU'CntU 


Ho 


f  ilia 


WSliiltS  WCttt 


i:oii 

■•  The'  Chcvolipr  HiKpIjtIliiiii-  gave  a  lunpiml  entertain- 
ment callitl  an  ■  Uratiirlii '  to  idl  tb' ]>riii>-ipal  puTinnogv* 
in  Koine,  tlicsiilendour  of  wlin-h  laii  hnnlly  Ik  imafilued. 
Tho  (irchPstra,  pla-'cd  in  a  H>rt(if  uinpluilicaliv  erected 
tat  llie  veoaidau,  was  eiHn|iiwul  nf  'iKhiy  iiiiirunwnts  la 
tbe  hands  of  the  beat  pnittiwors  ul  Itoiiie,  u"  '  -  ■■■  " — 
tion  of  the  rainous  violinkit  I'ntvlll.  Thi; 
oiuio  of  the  niMt  cvlehrateil  in  lialy:  iiuioiig  waum  waa 
the  Musico  Qnifiuini,  so  rEiHiwnol  lor  thv  iKiiuly  of  hb 
Toifp.  Exquisite  rvfte^-hmi'nts  ailrlnl  to  tlm  cliarnu  of 
the  evening-  It  wouhl  luive  hi'cii  iwirccly  pinsible  to 
enjoy  an  ciiiiiliy  btilliaut  lutu  in  any  olhur  cily  of  the  _ 

Can  any  of  your  readers  give  mo  any  informa- 
tion about  this  Muaico  Quiquini  'i 

Gbo.  Fylkr  Towssesd. 

.  Osi>-I'ESsr. — Is  tbis  game  known  nowP  norio 
has  "  Jineilittiiii,  a  play  called  'onu  jBinny,  oiio 
penny,'  or  '  come  after  me.' "  1''.  J.  F. 

Sm  TnouAS  Pniu.ipps'  MSS.  — fan  any  of 
your  readora  give  nio  an  id«i  q1  l.Ve  TivHv^ast  til 
Volmiieain  tlie  \ale  Sit  T\iQm»a VVffli'TO*  <:^«»- 


202 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[iti"  S.  IX.  Mabgr  9, 7S. 


tion?    Also  references  to  any  works  giving  an 
account  of  the  treasures  of  his  vast  library  ? 

U,  P. 

[Ten  years  ago  Sir  Thomas  Phillipps'  unrivalled 
private  collection  of  manuscripts  had  reached  50,000,  but 
at  the  time  of  his  death  it  had  increased  in  sound  num- 
bers to  00,000,  contained  in  24,000  boxes.  In  Haenel, 
Catalogi  Librorum  Manugcriptonnn,  1830,  pp.  803-896, 
there  is  a  dc;$cription  of  above  3000  articles.  Consult 
also  Catalogits  Librorum  3Ianu»criptorum  in  Bibliotheca 
D,  Thoituc  PhiUipps,  Bart.,  Parts  I.  and  II.  pp.  340, 
A.i>.  1837  to  1852.J 

PiiiNCE  OF  Wales. — Was  George  III.  created 
Prince  of  Wales  ?  Was  the  second  son  of  any 
sovereign  created  Prince  of  Wale-s  ? 

T.  F.  Waikewright. 

Arts  Club,  Hanover  Square. 

[George  III.  was  created  Prince  of  Wales  and  Earl  of 
Chester  on  April  20,  1751.  The  pecond  son  is  created 
Prince  of  Wales  after  the  death  of  the  elder  brother,  as 
in  the  cases  of  Henry  Tudor,.Dake  of  York  (Henry  VIII.), 
and  Charles  Stuart,  Duke  of  York,  or  Charles  I.J 

QuEny  Elizabeth  and  the  Country  Mayor. 

Tlio  editor  of  a  Folkestone  paper  has  recently 

expressed  his   disgust  at  the  oft-repeated  lines 

quoted  by  local  guides  as  bein^v'  the  speech  of  a 

Folkestone  worthy  to  Queen  p]lizabeth  when  she 

honoured  that  town  with  a  visit.    The  mayor, 

mounted  on  a  joint  stool,  addresses  the  queen  — 

"  Most  gracious  quoen. 
Welcome  to  Fol-stcenc." 

To  which  she  replied  — 

"  Most  gracious  fo<>l. 
Get  off  that  stool." 

Now  I  have  already  discovered  that  at  Coventry 
versos  somewhat 'similar  are  n-corded.  Would 
you  kindly  allow  me  to  ask  for  specimens  from 
other  towns  P  IIardric  Morphyx. 

Habelais. — Have  the  works  of  Kalxdais  been 
translated  into  Spanish  or  Italian  ?  I  have  seen 
a  Dutch  and  a  German  version.         A.  0.  V.  P. 

Keproduction  of  Seals  and  Coins.  —  I  am 
anxious  to  make  solid  castings  in  metal  (silver  or 
bronze)  from  clay  impressions  of  old  seals.  Is  it 
possible  to  do  so  with  sufiicient  sharpness  ?  There 
was  a  process  brought  out  a  few  years  ago  for 
casting  from  woodcuts,  &c.,  by  previously  pump- 
ing the  air  out  of  the  moulds.  Is  this  now  worked 
in  LoudoHj  and  where ':'  F.  M.  S. 

"Mary  Hose." — In  an  old  town  in  South 
Wales,  where  the  custom  of  ringing  the  curfew 
continues,  we  have  heard  childrt?n  warned  that 
the  hour  of  rest  was  come  as  signified  by  "  Mary 
Eose."  Have  any  readers  of  *'  N.  &  Q."  heard 
this  name  given  to  the  curfew  bell  'f       11.  &  M. 

Societies  for  the  Kefohmation  of  Manners. 
Anthony  ilomeck  founded  several  societies  of 
religious  and  devout  young  men  in  connection 
with  the  Church.    Did  these  societies  last  long 


after  his  death  (1G96)  P  and  is  it  poaBible  tfaey 
can  have  had  anything  to  do  with  the  origin  of 
Methodism  ?  *       C.  Elliot  Browve. 

[Some  account  of  the  Societies  for  the  Refomutioii  of 
Manners  is  given  in  "X.  &  Q."  2°*  S.  i.  2r2.  Thfly 
orif^inated  in  the  reign  of  James  II.  under  the  directkm 
of  Bishop  Beveridge,  Dr.  Anthony  Horneck,  and  that 
pious  layman  Robert  Nelson.  The  rules  of  these  socle- 
ties  were  approved  by  Compton  and  Tillotson.  One  of 
their  e.*«pecial  objects  was  to  promote  more  frequent 
preaching  and  more  frequent  communions,  and  those  who 
joined  them  were  sworn  members  of  the  Church  of  En^ 
land.  Some  of  them  were  instrumental  in  setting  Mi'fbot 
*'  The  Society  for  the  Propagation  of  the  Gospd  in  Fc»eign 
Parts"  and  **Tho  Society  for  the  Promotion  of  Chriitiaa 
Knowledge."  It  was  owing  probably  to  the  institotion 
and  success  of  ttiese  societies  that  the  great  Methodist 
movement  was  subsequently  organised. ] 

"The  Storm-Spibit  of  Scutaki."— Can. airf 
one  tell  me  who  is  the  author  of  a  hook  with  this 
title  ?  In  it  are  some  capital  lines,  which,  in  my 
opinion,  are  worthy  of  a  place  in  "  N.  &  Q." :  — 

**  Old  Jupiter  sat  on  a  mountain  of  smoke. 
And  Venus  and  Juno  were  laughing, 
EmoyiDg  a  brilliant  Ohnnpian  joke, . 
While  tlie  monarch  his  nectar  was  qnalHng. 

"  Ganymede  the  Trojan,  the  beautiful  boy, 
In  a  goblet  of  sparkling?  champagne. 
Proposes  three  cheers  and  a  bumper  to  Troy, 
Where  his  grandfather  llius  did  reign. 

"  Old  Jupiter  frowned  at  the  impudent  toast| 
And  kicked  the  impertinent  giver; 
While  poor  Ganymede  returned  to  bis  poet, 
And  talked  of  splenetic  white  liver.** 

Thos.  RATCuni. 

'^  Thanksgiving'' — Is  not  this  an  essentially 
Puritan  term  P  Thanksgiving  dinnen  wexe  eatsn 
hy  the  Parliament  men  constantly  during  tbe 
Kehellion.  Thanksgivings  were  also  held  to  oek- 
hrato  victories  over  the  king's  party.  The  foUow 
ing  was  dropped  about  Covent  Garden.  May  ICL 
1048:  — 

**  0  yes !  0  yes !  0  yes !  If  any  manner  of  man  in  ettj* 
town,  or  country*  can  tell  tidings  of  a  J1iank$gioim0  tOM 
kept  the  I7t>i  Day  of  this  present  month  of  May,  bf 
onlcr  of  the  Commons  assembled  at  WestmiDstsr,  let  hbi 
come  to  tho  cryer  and  he  shall  be  hanged  for  his  paiBap" 

G.HTa 

[We  do  not  consider  the  word  Thanksgiving  ss'sa 
e<(s«>ntially  Puritan  term  *' ;  for  both  the  Jewish  andChiii^ 
tian  chunthcs  acknowledged  with  gladness  on  ipedal  o^ 
casions  deliverances  from  temporu  calamities  (Exotek 
chap.  XV.).  It  is  true  that  **  Thanks^ving  Dayi"^ — " 
ill  groat  request  during  the  Civil  Wars,  when  the 
lianicntariaiis  were  wont  to  order  their  observsoot 
every  lucky  small  skirmish :  — 

«  For  Iludibras,  who  thought  h'  had  won 
The  Hold,  as  certain  as  a  gnu. 
And  having  routed  the  whole  tnx^ 
Witlj  victory  was  cock-a-hoop ; 
Thiiikinff  he  had  done  enough  to  parehase 
Thanksgiving-day  among  the  churches." 

JludibroM,  port  L  canto  iii.  Unas  11-16;  4* 
also  part  iii.  canto  iii.  Iin«  S87»  fe 


»S.IX.l 


I,  ■72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


Tbe  gnat  social  and  rcllgloiu  feaUval  called  "  Thanlu- 
-  Ein"^  Diiy,"  ttiU  obierved  inmost  of  the  itatesof  th,' 
An»nc«n  repntilie,  ia  a  legacy  of  the  English  pQiitaii 
■Mtlen;  inil  no  doubt  the  ciistam  is  more  honoured  Id 
the  ohKrvince  than  in  the  breach.] 

Vaw  WEsaELL. — ^I  hBTa  in,  my  posaesaion  two 
CTBjon  portraits  by  "  Van  Wessell,  11177,"  as 
Kratchinl  □□  the  thick  glasa  of  the  fmmes.  They 
,  are  suppn^ed  to  be  portraits  of  Chailea  II.  (in 
CBoonicals)  and  one  of  hia  beauties.  Size  1  ft. 
4  in,  by  1  ft.  3  in.  Mj  sources  of  inrormation 
Iiere  nru  limited.  I  have  looked  over  the  Die- 
tionary  of  PainttTf  and Engraeeri^  and  biographical 
works,  but  cnnnot  find  the  artiat's  qnitie  men- 
tioned. I  shall  be  obliged  if  any  of  your  reader:^ 
will  give  me  any  parttculais  of  tbo  artist  and  hi^ 
subjects.  The  paintings  are,  I  think,  iu  tbeii 
original  firamea.  W.  Sheaesowh. 

Were  the  ancient  Scots  C.vnitiiials  ?— In  the 
Talaable  dictionary'  of  Cooper,  compiled  in  the 
rei[ni  of  £li!iabeth,aDd  dedicated  to  her  favourite, 
Robert  Dudley,  Eacl  of  Leicester,  there  is  the 
following  entrj- :  — 

"  Scotia,  ficolland''.  the  part  of  Uritannia  from  tilt 
Ijner  tf  Tweate  to  CaWiies  "  [Caitbiieis]. 

This  shows  that  Cooper  did  not  moan  Ireland, 
«iid  that  what  foUowa  relates  exclusively  to  Scot- 
Und:  — 

■  Scoti,  ScollM,  or  Scoltiihe  men,  of  wbom  Saint  Hie- 
nime  wrj-tctb  in  this  wiw  : — 'Quid  loquar  de  cn-terii 
nitianil>u!<,  quum  ipse  Hclolescentulua  in  Gallia  viilerim 
Bcntos,  gertem  Briianniiam  humanis  veaci  caroibus,  el 
qanTn  p*r  lylvaa  poramini  greges,  et  armenioram  p«u- 
dnmqiK  rejicrisat.  pn.Htorum  nal«  et  ftcmiiinrum  pnpiilM 
kIcib  abacindere  et  bas  lolss  cibornm  delitias  atbilrari." " 

Cooper  tbcn'  translates  thia  paasage  from  St 
JoTome  as  follows :  — 

"  What  ihatl  I  npcske  of  other  nations,  since  that  when 
Iwas  a  boy  I  saw  in  Fraunce,  Scottes,  a  people  «(  Urita.vno 
eat  men's  flesb,  and  when  tliey  found  in  tbo  forestea 
herdea  of  iwine,  bea^tev,  and  catuilv,  Ibey  would  cntte  of 
Iba  botlAcks  of  tbG  boyes  which  kept  them,  and  also  the 
woman's  p,ippe*,  and  looke  that  lo  he  the  uio.it  dpyntie 
■Bd  delicate  mcate." 

Tbis  account  of  ancient  Si^otlnnd  ntid  its  iu- 
btbitanfs  by  St.  Jerome  and  his  transktnr  gave 
iuch  offence  to  the  former  owner  of  my  copy  of 
CtHiper's  Themiuruii,  that  he  has  drawn  liis  pen 
through  the  entry,  and  put  these  three  words  iu 
the  margin :  —  "  Vterijue  impndenlissime  halluci- 
natur."  The  writing  is  of  the  dnfe  of  the  voluoie, 
which  has  on  the  title-page  this  i  n  script  inn  :  — 
"Liber  Owcoi  lyowis,"  and  as  tlif^  calHginphy  of 
the  note  is  exactly  the  Eame,  it  may  be  taken  for 
8T>nt«l  that  tbis  irate  Welahmnii— as  his  name 
udicates — wiLi  the  party  offended. 

Not  b.'ing  famili.ir  with  the  voluminoua  wnrka 
of  the  Fathers,  touie  kind  contributor  to  whom 
Ul^  Are  sn,  might  be  bo  good  as  point  out  the 
Muage  in  St.  Jerome  where  the  quotation  can  be 
nimd.  J.  ^,    J 


liTYMOLOQT  OF  "  HAKHOWGATE." 
(4'*  8.  ym.pauim:  ii.  20, 121.) 

On  reading  W.  B.'s  paper,  the  following  ques- 
tions occur,  and  I  should  be  glad  if  he  would 
kindly  answer  them :  What  ground  hoq  he  for 
asserting'  that  the  baua  of  ancient  names  is  some 
natural  landmnrk?  What  are  the  various  stages 
through  which  iird  passes  before  it  becomes  Aeries 
and  Hnally  Jlarroicf  What  dooa  he  mean  by 
"spurious  syUahle"  and  " loan-word"?  If  ora 
generally  fornix  the  central  name  of  a  group,  how 
18  it  tjiat  artf  appears  in  the  beduning  of  luirrow, 
Arkcndale,  and  Hortawith  ?  How  ia  it  also  that 
ken,  of  which  W.  B.  makes  the  same  remark,  ap- 
pears in  the  commencement  of  KnaresborougE  P 
Surely  "  central "  caimot  he  the  word  which  W .  B, 
intended  to  use.  How  doea  the  ard  in  Harrow 
account  for  Tinner  ?  I  think  that  W.  B.  ought 
to  give  some  authority  for  his  assertion  that  the 
Irish  mac  and  cena  are  identical  with  the  Cornish 
map  and  pen.  Alxokes. 

Temple. 

In  the  word  Jlere-ford  (now  pronounced  Ht- 
re-ford)  we  have  preserved  intact  the  genuine 
Anglo-Saxon  word  here  =:  an  army. 

In  IlarloiB  =  the  burying  ground  of  the  army, 
and  in  Harrow,  with  the  exception  of  one  common 
and  most  legitimate  vowel  change  (« to  n)  and  the 
trivial  dropping  of  the  vowel  («)  in  the  first  syl- 
lable (and  which,  it  must  be  obserred,  is  between 
two  liquid  semi-vowels  in  both  words  Uar(e)low 
id  IlBr(e)row),  vre  have  likewise  the  preserra- 
tion  of  the  aamo  word. 

The  dropping  of  the  vowel  e  between  the  two 
liquid  semi-vowels  /  and  r  when  Har(e)low  and 
Har(e)row  respectively  became  single  words,  ww, 
I  apprehend,  not  only  allowable,  but  correcL  I 
forgot  to  make  a  note  of  it  at  the  time,  but  I  well 
recollert  that  one  of  the  beat  A.-S.  scholars  allege* 
that  our  language  was  formed  by  joining  moao- 
aylliihic  words  together  in  the  A.-S.  period.  Ajid 
now  as  to  "row  "  in  Sarroic.  This  no  doubt  ]a 
from  the  Sax.  raica  =  to  stielch  or  reach  out  in  b 
continued  line,  a  rank,  a  file ;  in  abort,  the  row 
of  commanding  poaitions  of  the  army  occupying  a 
chain  of  hills  or  hilly  country. 

That  the  elevated  and  commnnding  nositions  of 
tbis  country  were  succeasivoly  uccupieo  for  mili- 
tary purpoaea  by  Colts,  Roniiins,  Saions,  and 
Danes,  the  explofntiona  of  tbo  various  borrows  in 
their  immediate  vicinity  clearly  show.  The  mono- 
.lyllable  "pate"  in  Jlar-nnv-yaic,  then,  would 
have  a  general  and  geographical  aeiise,  i.  e.  a  de- 
file, a  mountiun  pass  through  which  armed  forces 
were  accustoraod  to  "gain"  the  heights.  It  ia 
vemarkable  that  inthe  A.-S.C\iwviw\6ftv*^eaiiAi 
ibrces  are  always  calle4"tiiaBia>Tr  •uiS.^'w*^- 


204  NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  [4»  8.  ix.  Mahci. 


with  the  additional  title  of  The  School  for  Fatka 
fcrred  by  Garrick.  The  Schooi  for  Coxcombs  bj 
an  appellation  equally  just,  for  Jessamy  is  a  i 
likeness  of  the  youthful  touristsi  of  that  period,  i 
so  excellently  personated,  in  tlic  Dublin  theatr 
comedian  called  Wilkes,  that  the  opera,  on  his  \ 
alone,  was  attractive  beyond  any  former  exax 
theatric  nihircment  in  that  metropolis,  and  mil 


be  strange  if  our  expressive  mother  tongue^  the 

A.-S.,  did  not  impress  the  word  Iiere  =  army,  upon 

many  of  the  localities  not  merely  frequented,  but 

held  nnd  occupied  by  them ;  and  as  Hereford  is 

the   only  instance  in  which  the  word  has  been 

preserved  intact,  it  is  necessary  to  call  to  mind 

the  usual  phonetic  principles  of  change  to  detect  . 

other  names  of  places  of  similar  etymon,  such  as  I  yPPo.;*»"ff  theatre  where  some  of  the  great  tragec 

TT^^r^r^v...  TI«vV^^«.^„np^,  TTo«i«,.  ui^Mr.,J*^r.   Wo*    \  i''»"doii  wcrc  performing  With  the  most  favoured 

Uarrowby,  llarborough,  liarley,  Harlmgton,  Har-     „f  ^hc  Irish  stage." 

ington,  Harwich  (wic)  and  the  like.     Hereford         ,,1  x-x-  -^.i. 

being  in  South  Mercia,  and  the  latest  localilv  '  ,    -^Mame  \'estns  rey^  ft 

acquired  bv  the  A.-Saxons,  would  of  cour.-e  bo  I  ^'''''''^^  ^*  p«^'»-^°<^  Garden,  May  22,  182J), 
more  likely"  to  retain  the  correct  spelling.  :  'T^*  brought  out  ngam  m  1830  at  Druiy 

C.  CnvTTocK.    '  '"""^^^  which  time  it  appears  to  have  been 
*        *  *    !  ontirolv  ni'fflected. 

i  »         * 

■  How  does  your  Netting  Hill  philologer  distiii-  i  ^  It  may  help  to  explain  the  name  by  giv 
guish  between  the  arch  and  airdit  derived  from  ',  illustration  of  the  character  of  Jessamy.  I 
the  so-called  Celtic  ardh,  and  the  ards  and  ftird.<  been  asking  his  father  what  there  was' in  hi 
derived  from  0.-Noree>Vn/,  a  property  or  estiitt-  ':^      dutt,  carriage,  or  figure  that  he  could  p4 

W.  C.  M.     \  tind  fault  with.     Hid  father  answers  in  tl 
■"  I  lowing  song: — 

I   did' not  intend   to   convov  that  the   name  i  ».  y,,,,,,,^    ,v  «i,„«  im  ♦  n           •*!     ^ 

//  Ti            >j  •                    *•         i'  n  '*!  •         111       r  *•  A.Miii(i!»,  bir,  then  1  II  tell  a'ou  without  anv  jept, 

"  Harrow    is  a  corruption  of  dothic  and  Icolnm he  ,  j ,,,.  thi„jr  of  all  thin-s  whioli  I  hate  amd  dettst) 

Jwr,  but  simply  that  tlie  latter  I8  contained  in  the  1  a  ooxcomh,  a  fop, 

former.     Tlie   concluding   portion   of  this   natm^  ;  A  dahity  niilk-.«op, 

may  be  Oothic  and  Icelandic  hauf/,  a  tumnlu.-^  or  j  )^*^';''  <;.^^-'n(.''d  and  dbceu'd  frum  bottom  to  top, 

grave-mound,  whicli  in  15riti.sh  plaee-nam.vs  takes  •-■  '^'- ju-'t  like  u  doll  fiir  a  milliner's  shop. 

Tu    j»           c  1       1           1              1  -V  T           '1.1  A  thin'' lull  of  prate, 

the  form  of  ho^  Jmre,  Itmr,  and  it  I  nni  right,  also  _  ^^„,j  pride  and  conceit; 

<jw.*     In  "  Haradon-hill, '   near  Stunehenge,  wo  1  All  fashion,  no  wc:i;rht ; 

plainly  liavn  a  name  formed  by  the  union  of  two  '  NVh«)  shrub's  and  takes  snuff, 

(rothic  words,  viz.  har,  altu.^^t^  and  idint,  a  cliir,  a  .  ^^"'1  carries  n  muff; 

verv  steep  hill,  the  ordinarv  En-lish  word  '•  hill "  \  'i^. ")"•"'''" 

being  evidently  siipermduee-l    upon   tht-  oii^Mnal  |«  rroiu-h  powder-puff; 

name  nt't'T  its  .si;,rinti canoe  bad   been   L.-st.     Jlw  ;  And  now,  sir,  1  lancy  I've  told  you  enough." 

(Jotliio  term //-//m  is  airain  found  in  *•  Audim."  the  ,       ,,       ti     1  x     .1      1  .    '     n    1    1  * 

name  of  an  old  Caldnnian  fort  on  J  Jen  Lodi :  nn:l  ;/5".^^'i!h''*^?*^  the  letter  alluded  to 
all  thi.^  goes  to  prove  that  thi.  t-arlv  inhabitants  \  IV  '''''  "'  ^'"^  whilst  this  opera  had  stiU  1 
of  the  IJritish  ish•^^,  of  whom  anVvrs'liges  remain,  I  !>'■  ^'V''"'  ^'*V'''\  "'"^  ^V^  "'  ^\^^  i^  "^^ 
were  of  the  race  of  the  ancient  ( Julhs.  1  l^f";^'^^  /^    l^f  ^"^?»^«7^«V  '^'^^'    ^^°  r^ 

J   Cr   r      '  iTimi  Hublin  in  the  character  of  Je 

Wo  cannot  doiibt,  therefore,  that  she  fafl 


I 


IIORXKCK:  AXD  JKSSAMV.  «l.:i:a.ur  in  her  mind  when  she  used  the 

l!l   Oli-.SllOll. 

(-i»»' 8.  ix.  ai,  1 11'.)  '  

"Mr.  Jessamy  "is  th.  nan.e  j^mm   to  a   fup  in  :  ..fADrXPLK  AND  TRIPLK  B1UTU5 

tno  onco  ])oprilar  e(miic  opera  of  Lmmf  mnf  (  nt- 

risna,  by  rsauc.  Dicker.^tair,  which  was  brnujlil  nut  \  '  ("^*    ^'  ^x.  12/,  lOo.) 

at  Movent  CJarden  in  17()X,   and  will  be  fniiml  in         In  my  ]-aper  on  the  "Vitid  Statistics  of  S« 

vol,  xvii.  of  Mrs.  Inobbald's  7>V///V*  Thvntro.     In  ;  rcail  to  tbt-  Statistical  Societv  of  London 

her  introdiiciors' remarks  tliat  lady  says —  i  l>r,L>,  tb»»  data   are  given    which   then  ]\ 

**Aflrr    havi.ni;    been   aotcd    i^oww,    v»-ar.H   nt   Covnit  :  llu-st^   conclu!ji.)ns — 1.    That  the    phenome: 

<iairdrn,  it  was  l-ivai-lit  upon  the  sta-n  at  Druiy  Lane,  |  three  cliildreii  at  a  birth  had  occurred  mue 

~~^v^Z^\  .7i^~\        ^*'i  ■"      r\"i    ~  "   i  '  I'leqn'nllv  in  Sweden  than  could  \iell  I 

ror;^usii!i  .«javs  "  u  e    race  tlio  nnaiiiiiLr  of  the  word  i  ,.^,.Vi  :r  \  .*:  i-   ,  ^     4.1,         u*      i.  ^ 

•  how '  to  be  in  .naav  case.,  if  not  invariablv,  tli.t  of  a  I  i\^^'^  'I  ^^:^'''[''?  ^^  ^H*"  '"^^"^^^  ''■*'™  "^.* 
sepuk^hral  hill."       *  *  !  'ible.     2.   1  hat  in  Sweden  an  average  of  1 

t  Many  years  a^ro  I  h.'.'ird  an  old  S.ot  eh  woman  n;-"  '"  than  -IS  nnt  of  overv  million  of  deliveries, 

.heexprcn>ion  "  yy///i/ou  tbeeou|.le-bauk."an«iin()iiinii.i,'  j  eight  v  M-ars  irrO-l&Oi"),  hod  produced  ^Afv 

he  meaninjjC  of /,««r.  it  was  explnined  to  nic  by  anoth.r  ■  th^.^  '.,{  ^  [jiyth.     t\.  That  the  ratio  of  SUcl 


4*  S.  DL  Maboh  9, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIE& 


205 


chSldijBa  at  a  birth  had  also  taken  place  in  the 
ratio  of  fiye  times  to  each  million  deliveries  dur- 
ing the  eighty  years  1776-1855.  H,  That  in  two 
duy  oat  oi  the  ^teen  quinquennial  periods  into 
which  the  eighty  years  were  subdivided  for  sta- 
tistical purposes  was  there  an  absence  of  the  occur- 
rence of  a  quadruple  birth— viz.  in  1791-5  and  in 
1661-56. 

The  credibility  of  the  Swedish  registration  re- 
turns of  these  abnormal  births  rests  on  the  distin- 
ffoiflhed  authority  of  Warjrentin  and  Nicander  in 
the  earlier  period,  and  of  I)r.  Bor^r,  the  able  chief 
of  the  lloyal  Statistical,  or  **  Tabell-Kommission '' 
of  Stockholm,  at  the  later  and  cunrnt  period. 

The  latest  yearly  oiticial  statistics  to  which  I 

<Mn  now  conveniently  refer  are   I'nr   It'GJ).     Xo 

4)^aadniple  birth  is  recorded  in  tliut  vear,  but  the 

"triple  births  were  twenty-thn»e  in  number,  pro- 

cludng  sixty  living  children  and  nine  still-bom : 

.«».nd,  as  the  whole  number  of  deliveries  registered 

in  Sweden   in  1800  was   lli»,84.S,   the   nitio   of 

"triple  births  was  therefore  101  por  niilliou. 

Nicholas  Struyck,  the  Dutch  political  arithme- 
tician of  the  early  part  of  the  last  centur}',  has 
^'oniu  statistics  of  such  births  in  the  towns  and 
villajfes  of  Holland.    See  also  Sussmilch's  work —  j 

**Die  Gottli^hc  Onlnun*^  in  «len   Veriliulftrun'jon  <lrs  ■ 
^eii«cblichen  (IcsohlfcliLv'   li«v.   C.  J.  I5:iuinaim".s  4ih 
^^Birlin,  178^i.  IDO-iOl. 


apron,  not  hanging  from  the  waist  to  the  knees, 

but  from  the  chin  to  the  waist. 

The  text  of  the  broadsides  deplores  that  it  had 

not  pleased  God  to  spare  the  children  to  live  to 

maturity,  and  arrives  at  the  moral  that  the  month 

of  November,  1083,  had  been  so  fruitful  in  double 

births  that  it  portended  no  good,  and  a  general 

deamess  of  prices  was  to  be  apprehended — 

'*  Sonst  war  diser  Monat  recht  iVuchtbar,  dann  unter- 
schidliche  Doppel-Geburteu  sich  ereip^nct,  vor  diaem  hat 
man  nicht  vil  Gates  auss  soloheii  Geburten  gescblossen, 
I  sondern  insg^cmcin  cine  zukunirtigc  Theurunj;  ^eurtheilet, 
vor  welche  uns  dcr  llilchstc  giiUdig  behiltcn  woUe." 

Then  follows  a  description  of  various  multi- 

,  parous  deliveries  in  Germany  and  other  countries, 

j'  'including  some  which  are  clearly  mythical  and 

legendary  ;  bat  this  does  not   possess  j-uflicient 

novelty  to  be  worth  quoting  tn  the  well-informed 

readers  of  ^'  X.  i^  (^'"  Fredk.  IIe>'drik8. 

1,  Palace  Gardens  Terrace,  W, 


Oerinan  (Saxon)  statistios  for  l'<47-0,  J)iil»-h  '■ 
for  1^.50-53,  Belgian  for  ISU-nO-  all  give  exam-  '• 
P*8  of  quadruple  and  of  triple  births.  The  ratios  ' 
**  these  to  the  total  deliveries  are  in  tolerably 
•^J*  agreement  with  the 'Sw»'dij>h  statistics. 

Avery  curious,  and,  as  far  as  I  know,  unique 
**<lside  in  mypossiji'sion;xivt's  a  graphic  account 
^•quadruple  birth  at  Augsburg  in  lGc?.'J.  It  is 
^tled — 

Warhaffti^r  Boricht.  wck-her  masscn  don  30  Xovein- 
dees  1688  Jahrs  eine  Hniidwi'rcks-Frau.  allhiir  in 


ur;:, 


..  .  ^,  vier  Icbeudige  KimliT  zur  Welt  ^eb<»ron, 
•dcheaJIe  die  rieiligc Tauf  crlangct, al^cr  bald  lu'rnaclur 
Wesverblichen.*' 

^  The  broadside  is  headed  with  a  clever  engrav- 
Jgfroni  the  burin  of  Melchior  Haftner.  One 
J^ion  of  it  represents  the  poor  woman  Maria 
*lw)nMuiin,  wife  of  Jacob  Thoman,  a  mason,  lying 
■bed,  and  receiving  visitors  of  quality  ( '*  hohe 
J^'sonen  so  sie  besucbet  '*),  who  have  come  to  see 
«•  four  children — Andreas  and  Niclaus,  Maria 
^J*  and  Barbara — by  this  time,  however,  dead 
■«  laid  out  like  so  many  dolls  in  little  night- 


yy*'  The  other  division  gives  a  picturesque 
jjj^of  the  funeral  procession,  headed  by  priests 
^•tohtes,  after  whom  march  four  bearers,  each 
^J  » tiny  coffin  and  pall,  followed  by  at  least 
22  ^'^Pl®  of  women,  all  in  the  quaint  old  Dava- 
2i5"'**»  ^*^  i*>  peculiar  wide-eared  bonnet 
■"•age-lookiiig  square  of  linen  like  a  white 


OIllGIX  OF  "TICIIBOKNE/' 

(4^'»  S.  ix.  09,  142.) 

Speed's  map  of  Hampshire  (published  about  the 
beginning  or  middle  of  the  seventeenth  century) 
jiives  no  stream  called  the  7/V/*  or  Titch;  but 
there  occur  Abbot's  Itching  and  Itchiugstoke  near 
a  nameless  stream  (no  dou})t  the  Itchen)*  which 
conHuxes  with,  or  is  one  of  the  sources  of,  the  Ant 
or  Anton  (in  Johnston  called  Itchen  or  Aiue),  upon 
which  ^Southampton  stands.  In  Warner's  Jliston/ 
"f  the  Ilumlrcd  of  Tichjivld  the  name  is  found 
written  TirhfvUe  Kddi  Tivefih  and.  the  local  name 
Itoliin  is  found  7(rw<?.  It  would  seem  more  reason- 
able that  Itrh-Hy  or  rather  Itvh,  should  corrupt  to 
Titch  or  Tivh  than  the  reverse,!  j  ust  as  11  brook  be- 
comes Tin)rook :  although  it  is  quite  ]»ossible  that 
Titch  or  Tich  may  corrupt  to  Itch  or  Idi,  Assum- 
ing, however,  that  the  names  Itchen  and  Titch  or 
Tich  are  distinct,  it  may  be  interesting  to  ascer- 
tain the  etyuu  d<igy  of  each  name.  In  English  and 
Dutch  the  word  Wap  corrupts  to  icatcr,  and  in  Ger- 
man to?tY/.ssfv;  and  in  lluvial  names  is  found  under 
2ca.%  wis,  ois,  oisc^  otfsr^  o^,  tn^  mm,  m<?,  and  probably 
also  in  local  nain(\«<  in  l^asteru  Europe  compounded 
of  ifz :  and  if  so,  1  do  not  see  why  it  may  not 
have  corrupted  down  to  fV7»,  I'tch^  itchen.  On  the 
other  hand,  the  vocable  tichj  titch  may  be  derived 
from  iroTouns.  Tlio  only  etymological  part  of  the 
word  vorapLos  is  wTo/ii  or  tou:  hence  the  Tame, 
Thame,  Teme,  Tamesis,  'J'hames.  In  the  Keltic 
languages  m  frequently  takes  the  form  of  v  (conf. 
ma,  man,  /•«,  van),  whilst  v  will  become  w  and  y : 
thus,  from  tarn  are  tlie  river  names  Tau,  Taw, 
Tave  or  Taf,  Theveand  theTay,in  Ptolemy  Taova, 

*  Itchen  is  the  name  of  two  rivers  co.  Warwick. 

t  In  Speed's  map  we  find  Itch  Ingham,  on  a  river 
which  falls  into  the  Kother ;  and  not  far  off  Tisehurst 
(now  Ticehurst),  situated  near  a  stream. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


206 


in  Tacitus  Tamu.  Qela  {Com.  Attion.)  says  tbe 
Taea  or  Tese  <wlience  Taaburgh  had  its  name), 
which  joins  the  Ysr  near  Norwich,  was  called 
Tail;  and  the  station  Ad  Taiiin,  in  tbe  Peutia- 
Kemn  Tftblea,  waa  at  Tasburgh.  The  river  Tees, 
.  m  Med.  Lat.  is  found  written  TVraw,  Tcm, 
Athetif;  and  Athesis  JS  the  Med.  Lat.  name  of 
theAdi|i;e(whichinGonnaD  becomes  .Efw^l),  which 
flows  tliruuRh  Tirol  and  Italy.  Now  if  Tan  will 
corrupt  to  Teei  it  may  become  Tick.  Oonf.  also 
the  lees  or  Tesse,  now  the  Test  or  Tost,  in  Hants, 
-which  lower  down  ia  callcd'the  Ant  or  Anton; 
Ticbford,  co.  Bucks;  Titchmarsh  or  Tichmarah, 
CO.  Northampton ;  aud  the  river  Ticino  in  Italy.* 
U.  S.  CnA.RNOCK. 
Graj-'a  Inn.  


E'naing  was  the  remnunt  of  the  proposition  at. 
\  looking  over  an  old  Latin  document  of  date 
1311,  in  the  reign  of  Edward  II.,  prinfed  in  tho 
Montgomeryshire  Cottccliona,  issued  by  the  Powjs-, 
land  Club,  tkad  which  is  an  official  inquiry  into  a 
dispute  betwetn  tbe  kine's  foresters  and  Gladuss, 
— ''b  of  William  de  !a  Pole,  I  find  some  of  the 


[**8.IX.l 


He.-?! 


Brok', 
Aqiiom.' 


thus  we  have  "Adam  atte  Wode, 
m  fttta  Echeles"  (Steps  P),  "Thomara  atte 
while  another  is  called  "  Rchertum  juxta 


C.  T.  Ramaue. 


Tee  Meetisq  op  the  Three  Choibs  (4""  S. 
jx.  136,  KMi.) — Some  years  age,  when  I  edited 
foe  Mr.  Amott  of  filoucester  a  now  edition  of 
Lysona's  work  on  The  Three  Choiri  (Neat,  Glou- 
cester), I  included  the  Rev.  P.  Senhouse's  notice 
of  Mrs.  Bovey  and  her  connection  with  the  esta- 
blishment. My  iaforaiatiou  was  taken  from  Mr. 
Amoti's  MS.  collections  on  the  subject,  which 
were  handed  to  me  to  incorporate  in  the  new 
edition.  I  am  now  glad  that  the  reproduction  of 
this  little  notice  in  '■  N.  k  Q."  has  beeu  the  means 
of  bringing:  to  lijrht  its  discoverer.  Let  Mb. 
Ker»LA£b  have  all  tho  merit  due  to  him. 

Edwaru  F.  RiMBAn.r. 

ix.  'I'i.) — I  suspect  that  wo  have  the  earliest  trace 
of  this  idea  in  Ovid  {Ileroid.  ii.  SO),  though  the 
words  are  not  the  same.  Ovid  says,  "  lO.'citus  acta 
probat."  I  can  go  ti>  a  somewhat  earlier  date  than 
Lehmiin  (lO;!*)),  whom  Mb.  Tibbiijus  quotes, 
and  of  whose  work  in  two  volumes  I  pos^ei^  the 
aecond  edition,  1<j40,  nubliahed  ut  Kiaukfort.  In 
"  Tlumaiirui  I'ruverhiaimm  Seiitenlinrum  tiheiriinrm. 
Sec.  per  Jonnnem  Buchlerum  u  Gladbach,  Scholw 
Wicrndime  Sloderatoreni,  editio  tertia,  Coloniic, 

"  Tbe  beat  etymology  of  Ttiuoliantos,  or  Trinnuantes, 
is  tliat  of  Baxter,  who  derivea  it  from  Iri  uou  anlt  — 
oppidi  Dovi  incolo. 


apud  Bemardum  Qualtheri,  1613,"  I  find  tiiis  pro- 
verbial expression;  but  Buchler  does  not,  aaj 
more  than  Lehman,  tell  us  where  he  found  it., 
lie  says,  however,  in  bis  preface,  that  whan  hs 
did  not  find  a  Latin  proverb  suitable  to  tranilate 
a  modem  proverb,  he  did  bis  best  to  present  itia 
a  Latin  dress.  "  Ubi  vero  Latina  Teutonicas  re- 
spondentia inpromptu  non  erant,  ibl  ipseii]et,mM 
Marto  Teutonica Latinitate  donavi."  Hia  woikii 
full  of  Latin  proverba,  which  he  occasionally  re- 
fers to  some  classical  source ;  but  opposite  to  taaar 
of  them  he  usea  the  word  ''  rulgo,"  by  which  I 
imagine  that  he  intends  ua  to  underatuid  that  it 
is  of  modem  date,  though  in  a  Latin  fonn,  which 
he  has  himself  given  to  it  Opposite  to  "^nii 
coronat  opus  —  Kea  indicabit — Non  atatim  flnii 
apparet,"  we  have  "  vulgo."  I  do  not  know 
whether  the  following  seqtence  of  T'liripiifcl 
(Wppal.  700)  may  not  be  considered  tbe  eazUir 
trace  of  the  idea  in  Greek  authors ; — 

"  Had  I  ancceedrd  wdl, 
I  hail  becD  rechoo'd  'monf^  the  win  :  out  mlodi 
Ato  bd  disposed  lo  judge  froio  tbe'evcDt.'' 

C.  T.  Euuaft 
"DuNsnrABB"  (4"'  S.  ii.  26,  103.)— IaA» 
neighbourliood  I  have  always  heard  it  cilliS 
Duuimuan;  '' Dunsinuiie,  ai  you  EngHA  Ri0*^ 
being  sometimes  playfully  added.  F.  F> 

"  Whtchcottb  ofSt.  Jokk's"  (4*3.  TiiLSlt  J    j 
ix.  148.)— S.  O.  asks  who  was  "the  fartontM    J 
youth  "  ?    The  author  of  the  above  work  ^KOr    \ 
tably  concealed  hia  name— an  example  whiek  J 
thinh  we  should  do  weU  to  foUaw.      He  UmI 
bitterly  to  repent  his  youthful  folly,  and  tiie^ 
vival  of  his  name  in  connection  with  it  wav 
I  necessarily 


tory  of  the  affair  ii 
respectively  entitled 

"The  Fortunate  Youth  i  or 
London,  printed  fu 


pain  to  a  highlv 

read  Um 

contempoiarj 


Me. 


Chippenham 

J.  JohnMii.  S8,  OMT 

IntereitinK  Unnoln  of 

"  -■   with  -    ■ 


Ncwmnrkft  Hoax.    _ „  

,•  called  tlic  furtiinate  Yonth,  with  tbe  ^: 

Ai-."    Mvo,  p[i.  2H.  and  ed.    London,  printed  and  p* 
lisbeil  by  (i.  Smceton.  17,  St,  Mutin' 

Tho  author  of  IVkijchcotte  I  believe  to  l* 
been  in  error  when  he  said  that  "the  yonUi* 
on  the  point  of  bein;:  married  to  the  danghtKl 
an  carl  when  the  bubble  hunt."  As  I  wis  Urii 
at  tho  time  at  no  great  distance  from  the  jontt 
home,  and  became  acquainted  with  tbe  cU 
incidents  of  the  case,  I  am  able  to  say  thtt  S 
common  report  in  the  neighbourhood  wu,  thlfl 
was  about  to  be  mnrried  to  the  danghtar  all 
esquire  of  large  hereditary  landed  estatei,  lA 

*  I  have  aoppnaad  Iha  wmnl 


IX.  March  9, '7!.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEKIES. 


207 


foi  obvious  reoeons,  I  refrain  from  men- 
E.  V. 
D  Beists  for  Sale  (4"-  S.  viii.  514;  ii, 
Vith  reference  to  tlie  Bbovc,  I  be;,'  to  send 
opy  of  a  paTt^rrapli  wbirh  appeared  in  The 
lewspaper  of  Salurdav,  Feb,  19, 1872  * 
RT  Ehisockbiw. — .\  fine  spediiipn  of  lli .  _  . 
Svmatremis,  brought  over  tn  Knytanit  by  Mr- 
JamrBob,  and  pupchsseil  liy  tlii^  7.ou\o\peA\  So- 
19  OD  Thursila}-  sate\v  dvpiiMitRil  in  her  new  luiine 
nrdenii,  It.'gent'a  Park.  Th'idcn  orcafij'in  irhich 
al  came  to  this  country  wis  of  sncli  KtKSJttie 
ins  that  it  was  found  impowlble  to  ffvt  it  iBta 

Tays  belongin.. 

e  enptriDtenitent. 
tic  '  trolly  '  at^ainst  thi  paiinK-i,  iiud  hitriiiK  pre- 
enioTed  a  portion  uf  thriii.  tliv  wurk  of  irllii'Tiiig 
e  van  commencFil.  Fi<rtiii!.iti*lv.  the  miinial  is 
ilo  dispodliiin,  DthcnFiie  Mr.  IlarllMt  and  YAt 
>  woald  have  had  n  hard  t.vk.  The  mping 
«en  conipletnl,  the  buce  diior  n-a4  rrnnoveil,  and 
ol  issued  slowly  forth,  havini;  i-nr^ully  mrvpywl 
,  and  the  men  giTini;  a  pull  nl 
Hi  for  her  jonrnfi-  to  the  elepl 
reinarknhly  ntell,  and  with  ■  litllo  tn'ntle  mnni- 
of  the  ro|i«!i  nnil  with  many  a  nnorl  woa  led  to 
domicile.-  Shi-  now  HtaiiJi  in  tlic  nvxt  aparl- 
tbe  lar^^e  male  Indian  rliinoocroii.  This  ix  the 
F  thin  rare  s[>ecies  ever  limught  to  ICunipe,  a 
illrT  one  having  lieen  landeil  in  J.onitnn  about  a 
.■0  and  forwarikJ  to  the  ZiHilot^i)  llardon.i  at 
-.  JIt.  William  Jnmrach  al»>  limuKht  over  with 
extraordinary  collertion  uf  wild  animaK  con- 
three  timers,  tno  hiige tii;er  cabs  Ave  clepltanti, 
Indian  rhinoeero!!,  tivu  i-assowarioi,  some  ^i- 
|rks,  am!  a  large  number  nf  smaller  animaU  and 
:  \i  remarkalilu  tliat  ttiis  largv  collection  wa* 
)v«r  frtPiii  India  lUrousli  [ho  Suei  Canal  williout 
ccident  or  death. 

also  state  iliat  fiirninny  venrs  past  I  have 
th Mr.  Jaroracli,  iiillatsliira  Ili^'liwny.fot 
shells,  &r. ;  and  mi  visitinjr  Lis  pit  .  of 
no  lont^  sinoQ  na  ]S-i4,  I  pa.«scd  innumer- 
d  beasts,  birds,  and  ri>ptilc.4  in  cages  for 
n  one  occasion,  nearly  twenty  Tears  since, 
aio  in  Iiis  house  for  the  purpoii!  of  tiTijiji 
in  elephant  which  'was  un  board  a  vessel 
ondon  Docks.  Your  corrcspninlcDtB  may 
ed  thsit  there  iina  been  a  regular  market 
besfta  in  the  vicinity  of  the  l^ondon  and 
ia  Docks  for  more  than  twenty  years. 

E.a.  : 

outh.  -  j 

IIP.B  (4">  S.  ii.  i>5, 10.7.)— I  notice  an  in- 
r  "  the  derivation  of  tlio  Korfi)lk  word 
''  Idonot  possess  anlcclandicdictionarv,  ', 
tve  heard  my  late  liiisbnnd,  Sir  Wm.  3. 
of  the  Boyal  Gardens,  Kew,  say  that  he 
•d  the  application  of  mamthr  to  girls,  rb 
live  county,  Norfolk.  The  word  is  pure 
.  It  is  still  in  frequent  use  in  Norfnllt. 
am  travelled  in  Iceland  upwards  of  sixty 
>.  _  nnRecoiUctUmi  of  a  Totir  in  Icelanil, 
witii  hi*  and  tbe  ship's  company's  escape 


from  destruction  by  fira  at  sea  on  their  homeward 
way,  caused  at  the  time  a  considerable  sensation. 
No' Englishman  had  viaited  the  island  since  Sir 
Jo)>eph  Banks  and  Sir  John  Stanley  did  so  long 
before.  Sir  George  Mackenzie's  tour  took  pla(» 
the  year  after  my  husband's.  It  is  curious  that  a 
word  so  suspiciously  like  mofTutr  should  be  used 
solely  to  Rirls — perhaps  as  "wee  wilio  "  is  simi- 
larly applied  in  Scotland.  Mabia  Hooekk. 

"The  Db.\tii  oy  Selsos"  (4"'  S.  ii.  139.)— 
DoH  will,  I  think,  find  this  picture  in  the  Nelaon- 
room  at  Greenwich  Hospital,  where  it  is  exhi- 
Wted  under — "No.  7.  Lord  Nelson  in  the  Yictory's 
Cockpit,  mortally  wounded,  Oct  31,  1805.  Bt 
B.  West,  P.K,A.''  E.  J. 

Nelson  S(]tiare,  S.K. 

Jervis  ;  J.iRvis,  ETC'.  (4"'  S.  viii.  539 ;  ii.  100.) 
I  think  1  should  know  somutliiug  about  the  wtir 
this  word;  for,  si.xty  yoara  ago,  I 


c  MOB  Tom  Ton 


n  a  Uttla 


And  ill  catiant  Duncan'ii  fleet,  I've  lUDg  oat,  yo 

Yet  more  siiall  ye  be  knowing,  I  was  coxen  to  Bos- 

And  even  with  brave  llawke  have  I  nobly  faced 

So  put  round  tbe  gros ;  ao  we've  that  and  our  piYig, 
We'll  laugh  in  care's  face  and  sing — Yo,  heave  iw  1 " 


L.VDY  Alice  Eoertos  (4'"  S.  it.  94, 150.)— A 
portrait  of  this  lady  is  still  at  Golden  Grove,  and 
in  good  preservation.  See  Ilebet'sii/e  ofJm-emy 
Taylor,  note  fllj,  C.  P.  E. 

"  Is  THE  MID  Silence,"  etc.  (4''  S.  ii.  130.)— 
Ai.i'iT.t  is  informed  that  this  stanza  is  the  first  of 
seven.  It  is  called  a  "  Midnight  Hymn,"  and  was 
found  in  MS.  in  a  chest  in  a  poor  woman's  cot- 
ta^.  It  has  been  in  my  possession  many  years, 
and  if  Alpha  wishes  for  the  whole  hymn  I  will 
forward  it.  M.  E.  B. 

The  lines,  "  In  tlio  mid  silence,"  frc,  are  tbe  be- 
ginning of  a  "  Midnigbtllymn  "  of  six  stanzas,  from 
n  MS.  found  in  a  cheat  in  a  poor  woman's  cottage, 
published  in  Hymns  and  Puemn  for  the  Sick  and 
Suffering,  edited  bv  Thomns- Vincent  Fosbery, 
M.A.,  vicar  of  St  G'iles's,  Beading,  fifth  edition, 
180],  London,  8vo,  p.  234. 

JoSETH  Rix,  M.D. 

St,  Neot's. 

Cn.iNoE  OP  BAPTissAt  Names  (4"  S.  viii.pn»- 
lim ;  ix.  19,  100,  109.)— The  law  upoo  which  a 
baptismal  name  can  bo  changed  is  that  of  Feck- 
ham's  Cotiititvtioaa  (a.d.  1261),  No.  3,  By  this 
constdtutioD  the  du^  of  lay  men  and  vromon  to 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«i  S.  IX.  IUbch  9,  7f. 


baptise  ifl  affirmed ;  and  children  so  baptised  are 
not  to  be  rebaptised  by  tlio  priest,  provided  the 
proper  words  and  matter  be  used.  After  making 
provision  for  conditional  baptism,  similar  to  tliat 
in  our  present  Office-book,  the  constitution  con- 
cludes thus :  — 

"  Let  priests  take  care  that  names  which  carry  a  las- 
civious sound  be  not  ^ven  to  children  at  their  baptisna, 
especially  to  those  of  the  female  sex ;  if  they  be,  let  them 
be  altereii  by  the  bishop  at  conlirmatiou.'' 

Johnson's  gloss  upon  this  is: — 

**  Of  old  the  bishop  at  confirmation  pronounced  the 
name  of  every  child  or  person  confirmeil  by  him  ;  and  if 
he  did  not  approve  of  the  name,  or  the  person  himself  or 
his  friends  desired  it  to  bo  altered,  it  might  be  done  by 
the  bishop  pronouncing  a  new  name  upon  his  ministering 
tills  rite,  and  th^  common  law  allowed  of  the  alteration. 

Johnson  adds,  that  a  chnngo  took  place  in  the 
review  of  the  Prayer-book  in  16(»2,  when  the  form 
of  the  pronouncing  the  name  of  the  cliild  by  the 
bishop  was  omitted ;  and  from  this  fact  he  con- 
cludes that  the  name  cannot  be  changed  now.    In 
saying  this  Johnson  makes  two  mistakes.    First, 
as  to  the  time  of  the  change :  this  was  ftot  made 
in  the  reign  of  King  (^ImrlesIL,  lOOi?,  but  in  that 
of  Edward  VI.  in  ir>OL>.     In  tho  book  of  1.540  the 
order  stood  thus:  **N.  I  sign  theo  with  the  sign 
of  the  cross,  and  lay  mine  liand  upon  thoe,  in  the 
name,"  &c.    In  that  of  loo-  it  is  the  same  as 
used  now.      Johnson's    st^cond    mistake   is   that 
omission  is  prohibition  :  th<.«  mere  omission  of  pro- 
nouncing the  nnmp  cannot  possibly  do  away  with 
the  power  to  alter  the  name,  if  the  bishop  once 
possessed  it.     IJ'.'sides,  this  canon  is  still  in  force 
under  the  compact  entered  into  between  the  clergy 
and  the  crown  in  tluj  act  conmionlv  called  ihc^  ylct 
of  iSubmisftiorif  So  lien.  VIII.  c.  li> ;  where  all  the 
old  canons  and  constitutions  are  continued,  except 
thev  be  contrariant  to  the  law  of  the  realm  or  tht? 
king's  pren)gative.     Further,  it  was  on  this  con- 
fstitution  that  Sir  II.  J.  Fust  gave  his  well-known 
judgment  in  Mastyn  v.  E*.oott,  when  thii  validity 
of  lay  baptism  was  ui)heM,  even  a.L'ainst  the  fact 
that  the  rubric  expn.v>sly  uses  tlie  words  '*  lawful 
minister,''  wliich  words  were  introduc»'d  in  1(504, 
at   the    instiiration    rif    tlie    Presbvti'rian«,    who 
wished  to  limit  ba])tisni  lo  a** lawful  minister.' 
The  only  question  Iht-n  that  arises  is,  what  nann/s 
can  be  clianjred  'r     The  constitution  only  mentions 
one  sort.     1  suppose  tliat  there  can  bo  no  doubt 
that  if  (for  instane*')  a  nainc^  of  a  boy  be  given  to  a 
girl  by  mistake,  it  vjniid  be  thus  changed.     The 
only  difll''ulty  is,  how  is  this  fact  to  b^  registered  ? 
I  remember  very  well,  some  forty  years  ago,  wlion 
it  was  evident  that  the  Princess  Victoria  would 
ascend  the  tiirone,  there  was  oft.-n  expn'ssed  a 
wish  that  her  name  might  be  chang-'il  at  her  cou- 
iirmation.     It  was  considered  to  be  un-Kngli*h. 

Edwin  \j.  LJLrxKiNsorr. 

Springthorpe  Rectory. 


"  I'm  come  a  SHKOTEurG,"  ETC.  (4*  Sw  ix.  136.) 
The  custom  alluded  to  by  F.  C.  II.  is  no  doubt 
that  described  by  Chambers  as  ^'Lent  Crocking" — 
a  custom  prevalent  in  the  counties  of  Dorset  and 
AVilts,  with  the  addition  of  a  second  verse  (Uie 
first  varying  somewhat  from  that  given  at  the 
above  reference) : — 

Second  Verse,  ' 

"A-shrovin,  a-shrovin, 
I  be  come  a  shrovin  ; 
Nice  meat  in  a  pie, 
My  mouth  is  verv  dry ! 
T  wish  a  wuz  zoo  welf-a-wct 
rd  sing  the  louder  for  a  nut ! 

CVioi tt«—A-shri)vin,  a  shrovin. 
We  be  come  a-shrovin.*' 

J.  S.  Udal. 

Junior  Athemuum  Club. 

Napoleon  at  Elba.  (4**  S.  ix.  ''5C.) — ^BAR-PODft 
seems  to  have  misjudged.  Lord  Brougham's' 
argument  is — that  if  the  mod  far-seeing  meii,/flr 
jtr/c/r  a  purpose^  had  searched  the  world  to  iind  dis 
residence  when>  Napoleon  could  be  the  most  das- 
perous  to  France,  they  would  have  fixed  up« 
J'^lba,  the  place  which  was  actually  selected  by 
what  may  Jioiv  bo  termed  the  least  far-seeing  umb* 

J.  Beau. 

"  IIenky  YIII.  pulled  down,"  etc.  (4*  S.  ix. 
138.) — A  reply  to  Mr.  Coolidge*s  third  query  ^ 

be  found  in  this  title  : — 

"  A  briefe  View  of  the  SUte  of  the  Church  of  En^aai 
as  it  stood  in  Qiicen  Klizabeth*8  and  King  Jamm  Mi 
lioigne  to  the  yr^ore  1 0^8.  Bein^;:  a  Character  and  BMoff 
of  tlie  Hisliops  oi'  rhos(; Times.  And  may  serve  as  aa  av 
tioiial  Supply  to  Doctor  <jroodwiu's  Cataleptic  of  Btshof^ 
Written  l«tr  thi^  [trivatc  use  of  Prince  Henry,  npoaacfll' 
hiion  of  tliat  proverb: — 

'  *  llcnry  the  Ki^hth  pnllM  down  monka  and  their  calk 
Ilcnrvtho  Ninth  should  pull  down  bishops  fljidtkrf' 

bells.' 

Ijy  Sir  .Tuhn  narrin<;ton  of  Kelston,  near  Bath,  KflUht 
rinio.     hund.  Kertnn,  1(;53. 

The  author's  proverb  or  motto  is  a  TeryfittM 
on».^  for  the  cont»^nts,  which  are  in  the  higln^ 
decree  anti-episcopal.  The  period  was  fftTOjT" 
able  for  this  satirii-al  attack  upon  the  mitre,  whic* 
.John  Chetwiud  **  in  (rratitude  to  his  relative  tfc* 
author's  memor}',  and  for  the  benefit  of  the  lirilfr 
lends  a  ]ielpin<r  hand  to  midwife  this  discoois^ 
which  has  layen  ready  for  the  birth  above  fortj 

vcar.^,"  A.  Ct 

"  I 

Noxsucn  Palace  (4»»'  S.  ix.  ISS.)— In  c<mtu»-  ; 
atlon  of  references  for  vour  correspondent  H.  A* 
relating  to  Nouduch  Paface,  I  would  refer  him  to  ; 
Sweto's  Handbook  of  E^jsom^  wherein  anilluitnr  \ 
tion  of  the  old  palace  (1582)  is  ffiven/as  wellH* 
dozen  pa^es  of  ver>'  interostinf^  deBcriptive  mattA 
Of  the  handsome  pile  of 'buildinga  not  a  veatigftit 
the  present  day  remains  visible,  and  whofB'QBfli 
stood  the  famous  regal  rendenoe  is  now  a  Wi 
converted  to  agricultural  porposMi  A      ~ 


J 


:«t«d 


4««  S.  IX.  March  0, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES* 


209 


London  alighting  at  the  Cheam  Station  (L.  B. 
and  S.  Coast  Kail  way),  and  taking  the  direct 
road  for  Ewell,  would  pass  through  the  beautiful 
avenue  that  still  belongs  to  Nonsuch — a  mile 
lonc" — at  tho  extreme  end  of  which  once  stood  the 
noble  palace,  a  portion  of  the  moat  alone  remain- 
ing to  mark  its  position.  E.  J. 

"Board"  (4^»»  S.  ix.  03,  140.)— I  do  not  think 
that  Mr.  Ske,\t  makes  sulHcient  allowance  for 
the  claims  of  orthoepy  when  pressing  those  of 
etymology.  W.  G.  quotes  Hamilton  Moore's  Kavi' 
gatio7i  for  a  nautical  term  of  which  I  am  ignorant, 
although  I  have  made  long  voyages,  amounting 
to  the  aggregate  distance  of  about  120,000  miles. 
I  do  not  dispute  the  existence  of  such  a  term,  but 
I  think  that  it  is  so  recondite  as,  in  the  present 
instance,  to  be  inapplicable.  "  Go  on  board  of  a 
ehip,''  **  go  a-hoard  ship,'*  I  am  afraid  are  far  at 
sea  as  regards  the  original  quotation,  which  I  take, 
as  already  suggested,  to  mphn  '*  boards  (takes  his 
place  at  the  family  board)  as  a  child  of  the 
^ily."  S.  Q. 

m 

Habo  (4*'»  S.  viii.  passim ;  ix.  127.) — Mr.  Ed» 
CoxsTANTiNE  asks  me  if  I  attach  any  importance 
to  historic  truth.     Mv  answer  is  **Yes,"  and  I 
therefore  derived  the  name  lio/ph  Irom  Madolph ; 
and  I  have  no  doubt  that  the  Norsk  Hr6lfr  is 
derived  from  the  same  source.     It  is  not  the  only 
socalled  Norsk  name  derived  from  the  German.  The 
name  Radolph  (var.  Itudolph,  llroadolf,  Itadolf) 
ia  an  old  German  compound,  which  may  be  vari- 
ously rendered  "  helpiug  counsellor  "  (rat-hulf)j  or 
"  ^uick  in  counsel  *'  (rnd-vlf) ;  and  this  seems  to 
coincide  witli  Haklor^on's  renderiug  of  the  Norsk 
name  '^plenipotentiarius.  it.  potens.'*     From  this 
old  German  name  Eadolf   wo  have  by  corrup- 
"^iw,  ifcc,   among  other   names,   the   following : 
Randolph,  Itolph,  Kolte,  Kolle.^  Puilph,  Kelph, 
gelf,  j^olfe,   Ilaol,    Koll,    Kolls,   Kolles,   Kollo, 
^wle,  Kawlos,  Eafl'e,  IJofi;  Koli'ey,  Raw,  Kawe, 
^It,  Rollin,  liollins.  Ilolliiigs,  Ilollinson,  Rawlin, 
^^lins,  Kawling,  Itawlings,  Kawlinson,  llaw- 
^D,  llawson,   Hawkins,    IJann,   IJanns,    Kand, 
^*iikeii,   Ilankin,    Jlnnking,    IJanson,    luinsson, 
^*n5om,   Iiansoiin>,    Uandail,     liundell.   Handle, 
Udells.  li,  .S,  CiiAKXocK. 

Gray's  Inn. 

,  I  write  to  throw  oil  on  troubled  waters,  and  to 
pve  light  to  the  wanderings  of  our  etymologists, 
^d  first,  the  many  prof«iSsors  of  the  meaning 
of  the  word  "  Haro'"  I  would  refer  to  "  Hamlet," 
and  "  As  You  I^ike  It,"  A  Specimen  of  a  Ntic 
Edition  ofShaJcespcnre,  bv  T.  Caldecott,  fesq.'  8vo, 
Hurray,  1820,  page  3  of  the  ''Notes  on  Ilam- 
et/'  under  "  It  harrowes  me  with  fear  and 
ronder,"  where  there  is  a  long  discussion  on  the 
rord  karo. 


ting-hill"  will,  I  think,  be  subverted  by  Mr. 
I  Earle's  remarks  on  the  latter  word — Philology  of 
I  the  English  Tongxie,  Clarendon  Press,  1871,  p.  o. 
I  Much  light  is  thrown  on  the  "  Doctrine  of  Cel- 
ticism "  in  the  introductory  chapter  of  the  same 
work.  Also,  under  "  Derby  "  or  **  Dartmouth  "  in 
the  index,  a  reference  will  be  found  to  a  very 
useful  account  of  their  pronunciation. 

H.  S.  Skiptok. 

Relics  of  Oliver  Cromwell:  the  Sydwet 
Portrait  (4^  S.  viii.  550;  ix.  75,  80,  102.)— My 
*'  ridiculous  story,"  as  E.  V.  styles  it,  concerning 
the  presentation  of  the  portrait  of  Cromwell  to 
Sydney  Sussex  College,  has  at  any  rate  been  the 
■  means   of  his  imparting  some   very  interesting 
,  and  valuable-  information  on   the  same  subject, 
and  of  a  more  accurate  nature.     E.  V.  would 
however,  I  think,  admit  that,  as  in  most  legends 
some  small  amount  of  truth  lies  at  their  foun- 
dation, 80  my  story  formed  no  exception  to  the 
general  rule.     Most  likely  generation  after  gene- 
ration of    Sydney   men    handed    it   down  with 
additions  and   alterations,  and  now  we  have  the 
real  and  genuine  account  of  what  must  at  any 
rate  always  be  called  a  story  with  a  little  romance 
in  it.    I  agree  with  E.  V.  most  cordially  in  think- 
ing that  Mr.  C.  II.  CoorER  *  did  not  show  "  his 
usual  cautious  investigation"   in    inserting  this 
story,  with  but  little  variation,  in  his  new  edition 
of  \^  Keux's  Memorials  of  Cambridge,  consider- 
ing his  almost  unequalled  knowledge  of  the  anti- 
quities, history,  and  ana  of  the  town  and  univer- 
sity of  Cambridge.     How  many  who  take  an 
interest  in  *'  N.  &  Q."  will  recollect  his  numerous  ■ 
articles  in  former  years;   some  under  his  own 
name,   and   others   under  the   norn  de  plume  of 
S.  Y.  R.,  remarkable  for  accuracy  and  learning. 

The  truth  or  accuracy  of  the  story  was  never  for 
a  moment  vouched  for ;  but  it  was  merely  recorded 
chielly  for  the  purpose  of  amusing  the  readers  of 
"N.  &  C^.,"  and  imagining  at  the    time  it  was 
penned  that  some  one  connected  with  Cambridge 
would  give  in  reply  some  far  more  authentic  and 
reliable  account,  as  E.  Y.  has  done.  My  anachronism 
must  be  regarded  as  very  unfortunate,  in  assign- 
ing the  presentation  of  the  portrait  to  the  time  of 
Dr.    Chafy's  mastership  of  the  college,  when  it 
took  place  so  long  before ;  but  it  was  on  the  in- 
fnrni:ition  of  my  young  friend,  whose  strong  point 
certainly   was   not,   as*  it    turns    out,   accuracy. 
1  le  was  at  the  time  reading,  I  recollect,  a  now 
forgotten  novel  called  Caleb  istukeky,  in  which  the 
character  of  Dr.  Chafy  is  supposed   to  be   de- 
lin»'atod.  *    Joun  Pickford,  M.A. 

II ungate  Street,  Pickering. 


The  attempt  to  apply  a  patchwork  system  of 
tymology  to  the  worcU  "  Tichborne  "  and  "  Tot- 


•  Charles  Henry  Cooper,  F.S.A.,  died  at  Cambridge, 
March  21,  18G6.  A  beautiful  tribute  to  his  mcmor\', 
copied  from  tjie  Cambridge  newspapers,  from  the  pen  of 
the  Rev.  T.  E.  B.  Mayor,  M.A^  Fellow  of  St.  John's  Col- 
lege, may  be  found  in  *•  N.  &  Q."  3'*  S.  ix.  253. 


210 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4>i>  S.  IX.  ILlb 


Cherries  and  the  Holy  Family  (4**»  S.  ix. 
117.) — An  older  and  different  version  of  "The 
Cheny-tree  Carol,"  beginning  "Joseph  was  an 
Id  man,"  will  be  found  in  many  collections — , 
notably  in  Bramley  and  Stainer's  Christmas  Carols 
New  ofid  Old  (No.  28),  set  to  the  traditional 
music.  A  reference  to  this  will  show  that  for 
obvious  reasons  it  could  not  have  supplied  the 
''  motive  "  for  Vander  Werf  s  "  Holy  Family."  I 
suspect  the  version  quoted  by  Cuthbert  Bkde 
is  modified  to  accord  with  moaern  notions  of  pro- 
priety. James  Britteit. 

Mr.  Matthews  (4»'»  S.  ix.  1G0.)--Is  Mr.  Mat- 
thews, the  author  of  Diary  of  an  Invalid ,  the 
person  alluded  to  in  Lord  Malmesbury^s  letters  Y 

T.  E.  WlNNINGTOX. 

Derivations  of  Names  of  Countries,  etc. 
(4'**  S.  ix.  l.*37.) — In  reply  to  so  comprehensive  an 
inquiry  as  this  is,  for  "  any  book,  article,  ur  thing 
prmted  whatsoever"  containing  information  ou 
the  above  subject,  I  venture  to  name  the  follow- 
ing works,  which  occur  to  me  at  the  moment  as 
worth  referring  to: — Dr.  Latham's  Gennania  of 
Tacitus ;  /  'arrotitanus,  by  John  W.  Donaldson  j 
Webster's  English  Diciianari/  (Bell  &  Daldy's  ed. 
4to.)  John  W.  Bone. 

26,  Betlford  Place,  W.C. 

Baldursura  (4*'»  S.  ix.  159.)—"  Balder  Brae  " 
is  a  Northumbrian  name  for  the  May-weed  (An- 
themis  cotula).  The  name  evidently  means  Balder's 
eyebrow  or  Balder's  forehead,  and  is  no  doubt  of 
ancient  Scandinavian  origin ;  but  why  thus  called 
is  not  so  apparent,  and  I  shall  be  glad  if  some 
correspondent  of  "  N.  &  Q."  can  throw  light  upon 
this  oDSCure  name.  Will  Mr.  Katcliffe  kindly 
say  whence  are  the  lines  he  has  quoted  ? 

llouERT  Holland. 

In  Ilaldorscn's  IceUindie  Lexicon  is  explained 
^'CiHwji  haldcris  (herba)  Cotula  fcctida,''*  [Anihe- 
mis  cotttla,  foetid  chamomile — ^\  ithering.]  1  be- 
lieve, however,  that  other  flowers  of  tlii.s  cla.<s 
have  among  the  Scandinavians  the  nauu;  of  JM- 
dursbrd,  W.  C.  Trkvelyan. 

Athcntcum. 

This  refers  to  Cotida  fetida,  i.  e.  CJiamkhim  feti- 
dunif  or  May-weed  (in  D.  Kocdille,  G.  Lauye^i- 
blumCf  Dan.  Lmidblomstery  Sw.  LiUhlomster),  Tlie 
name  seems  to  mean  Balldr's  eyelid  (from  Norsk 
Balldr  and  hrdy  cilium).  See  also  Haldorsen's  Lex, 
IsL  and  Nemnitch's  Lc,i\  Pohjylot, 

K.  S.  Charnock. 

Gruy's  Inn. 

Louts  Joseph  rAriNEAu  (4***  S.  ix.  180.)— 
This  was  the  French  Canadian  statesman  about 
whom  your  correspondent  inquires.  He  was  Speaker 
of  the  House  of  Assembly  of  Lower  Canada,  and 
was  called  the  "Demosthenes  of  Canada."    Ho 


died  quite  lately  (Sept  1871)  at  the  age 
five.  Some  account  of  him  will  be  £ 
volume  entitled  Ottawa^  Past  and  T 
Charles  Roger,  Ottawa,  1871,  p.  37.      J 

History  of  the  Vaudois  (4***  S.  L 
Your  correspondent  will  find  two  w 
worth  consulting  on  the  history  of  th 
to  bo  Gilly's  Waldensian  liesearches  i 
I  Valde,n  (Torino,  1849).  He  may  ab 
to  refer  to  Halm's  Bibelgliiuhigen  Ketz 
"  Waldenser."      * 

The  Author  of  "  On  xn 
OF  the  Storm." 


iHtiEtcdlantauiS* 

NOTES  ON  BOOKS,  ETC. 

The  Lives  of  the  Saints^  hy  Rev.  S.  Baring-( 
Author  of  **  The  Origin  and  Development  < 
Ik'lief/'  <S:c.  (January.)  Second  Edition.    ( 

That  English  literature  is  sadly  deficient  in 

niont  of  hagiology  cannot  be  doubted,  and  ; 

step  on  the  part  of  the  author  of  the  Curit 

the  cuddle  Agcs^  Post-Mediaval  Preacher s^  & 

take  to  supply  the  want  by  a  work  which  sb 

to  twelve  crown  octavo  volumes ;  and  we  i 

felt  inclined  to  say  a  still  bolder  step  on  the 

publishers.  Yet, in  l)ookselling  as  in  other  thu 

is  .stranger  than  fiction,"  and  we  read  with  i 

the  first  edition  of  the  first  volume  was  exha 

day  of  publication,  which,  as  Mr.  Gould  obf 

that  the  English  public  are  prepared  to  acoe 

this    description,  and  justiues   him   in   be 

the  want  of  it  has  long  been  felt.    Our  aut. 

no  difficulty  in  supplying  this  want  from  li 

rials,  seeing  that,  besides  innumerable  other  i 

has  some  sixty  volumes  folio  of  the  Acta  I 

fall  back  upon.    But  the  labour  of  selection 

sat  ion  will  be  great,  and  for  this  his  pre^ 

have  well  fitted  him.    We  may,  therefore, 

space  in  describing  how  it  is  proposed  by  th( 

tlie  work  should  appear.    A  volume  is  to  be 

first  day  of  each  quarter,  so  that  the  Lives  of 

l)etween  three  and  four  thousand  in  numl 

coniplutod  at  the  end  of  three  years ;  and  U; 

be  concluded  with  a  thirteenth  volume,  whi 

tain  an  index  to  the  whole,  togetlicr  with  ret 

Kalendars  and  notices  of  the  Moveable  Festii 

Thfi  DritisJi  School  of  Sculpture.  IlluBtraU 
Kntj  ravings  of  the  I'lnest  TForks  ofDecet 
of  the  Art,  and  fifty  Woodcuts,  With  a 
kssaif  and  Notices  of  the  Artists  by  Willi 
Author  of  "  The  Life  and  Works  of  Albert 
(Virtue  &  Co.) 

Messrs.  Virtue  have  very  properly  followei 
]>rettily  illustrated  volumes  connected  witl 
Maclise  with  one  dedicated  to  the  works 
our  more  eminent  deceased  British  Scalp 
the  scries  extends  from  Gibber  and  Bao 
man,  and  Westmacott,  and  indades  Behnc 
many  others  who  have  contribated  to  make 
School  of  Sculpture  what  it  is,  the  intmreit  o 
is  very  considerable.  To  show  how  foil  it 
beauty,  we  need  do  noOiing  more  ttuu  add  t 


4»8.IX.  HiBCH^ia.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


tkmtOMMna  fifty  woodcuts,  a  iMrge  proportion  of  which  | 
■ra  ftmn  the  masterpieces  of  FIsxinui,  it  is  illuatrBted  , 
■witk  «iigi»TiiiK»  of  Macdowell's  "Triumph  of  Love."  I 
Bacon's  "Narcissus."  Flssman's  "Michatl  and  Satan,"  | 
ChantKj'i  "Two  Children,"  R.  L.  Wyafs  "  Penelope,"  , 
H^on'*  "  Science  trimminf;  the  Lamp  o'f  Life,"  Thoinag's 
.  " Boadices,"  and  Joseph's  "Monument  to  Wilberfori:e," 
Wcrtinacotl's  "EuphrosTne,"  Watson's  "Sarpedon  cat-  ' 
ried  off  by  Sleep  and  Death,"  Behnes'  "Friends,"  Mac- 
dowell's "Girl  Reartinc,"  Gibson's  "Venus."  "Hylsj,"  and 
"  Copid  sod  Psvche,"  Daily's  " (iraces "  and  "Maternal 
AfRcUon,"  Spence's  "The  Angel  Whijperinc,"  and 
"  Infant  Uoses  and  Pharaoh's  Daughter,"  and  lastly, 
Monro's  "  Sister  and  Brother."  We.notice  one  curious 
initiate  into  which  the  editor  has  fallen  with  respect  to  I 
(hat  most  accomplished  artist.  Sir  Ricbard  Westmacott, 
nhohad,we  believe,  reached  the  ripe  age  of  fourecore 
ytan  at  the  time  of  bU  death. 

Books  beceivkh— TVorfiWoiu  and  Oalomi  ofCalht-  \ 
Avfi,  by  Mackenzie  E.  C.  Walcott,  B.D.     (Longmiins.)  . 
In  collectinj!  materials  for  his  virions  works  in  connee- 
UmwithourCathedrals,  our  author  h'achered  mnch  vari-  | 
ewlnrormation,  not  quite  pertinent  to  those  books,  but  yet 
I'cgiiosity  and  interest.    He  has  printed  these  in  a  little 
TilBae,  which  would  have  been  doubly  valuable  had  it 
Iw  well   indexeil.-afjMuJM  0/  Sarrala  for  E^iglM  I 
Sfderi.    A}fiaTranilath«friimXmyAon'i"Mcmo- 
'^Mia."  Willi   illuitrattd  Noia.      By  Edward  Levien, 
JLA,  BsJlioI  Coll..  Oxfonl.  F.S.A,  ic,    (Sampson  Low.) 


many  liberal  contribations  in  furtherance  of  education, 
and  more  paiticularl}>  of  scientific  education,  tbe  Haber- 


men  of  the  company,  a 
any  school  of  which  they  are  (rovemors;  also,  150i,  nar 
aiiriuni  towards  the  education  of  children  and  etandcbil- 
drcn  of  their  liverymen  (not  being  members  of  tbe  court), 
and  the  yearly  sum  of  lOM.  for  prizes  to  the  actual  in- 
ventors of  new  patterns,  desiBiis,  or  specimens  of  articlaa 
of  habeniashety  proper,  such  iuvenlors  not  being  mano- 
factureis  or  dealers. 

TtiB  Queen  has  directed  that  a  selection  of  articles 
from  her  Mgjest.v'i  collections  shall  bo  lent  to  the  Irish 
E.xliibition  ut'  Arts.  Indastries,  and  Manufactures,  whicli 
is  about  to  be  opened  in  Dnblin. 

St.  PAi-i.'s.CiTHtniiAi As  will  be  seen  in  another 

page,  a  meetiug  is  to  be  held  at  the  Mansion  House  on 
Monday  next,  at  2  o'clock,  under  the  presidency  of  the  . 
Lord  Mayor,  for  the  puipuee  of  promoting  the  Thanks- 
eivinc  Fund  now  beiu);  raised  for  the  completion  of  the 
Cathedral.    We  hope  that  a  scheme,  in  detail,  of  intended 


fte  litle-paB* 
"<* ;  and  the 
fPokilafficienl 
"gotnp.— TAel^i 
f^  and  Play >. 
™«  Brenared,  we 


salliciently  describes 


e  of  this 


, the  fact  that  it  is  one  of  the  Bayard  S 

*«l>  lafBcientlv  for  the  attractive  manner  in  which  it 
,f  Shainptare,  nUrtid  from  hit 
rtue.}  A  very  elegant  little  vo- 
prepared,  we  presume,  as  s  companion  to  the  Sotigi 
VBpm  lately  issued  by  the  same  publishers. 
,  Ttt  SociETT  OF  Antiquahtks,— On  Thursday  nent 
(*«  l«h)  Mr.  R.  II.  Major,  of  the  British  Museum,  will 

*«™aTe  of  the  Discovery  of  Australia.  We  have 
"*»  to  believe  that  Mr.  Major's  facts  differ  very  mate- 
Wyfrom  those  which,  accordinj,'  to  Tht  U^ardian,  are 
J["taiaed  in  the  original  autograph  account  of  Manuel 
Ji'liiko,  a  Portngueae  navigator,  who  visited  Australia 
^lWl,wbicbhaa  recently  b«n  found  in  the  Bibliotbtque 
<«r«leotfleleinm. 

Soaiti  DK  l'Histoibk  de  Frasce.— At  a  recent 
*«big  of  this  society,  tbe  Council  had  under  considera- 
■Kwbat  should  be  tlie  works  issued  during  this  and  the 
■jMne  vear,  when  it  was  decided  to  publish,  in  187i, 
^ntimu' ^ErMid  el  de  Bernard  It  TrcKrier,  Amaki 
jikBtrtim  eldest,  ffooif,  which  arereadv  for  delivery! 
ytth  and  last  volume  of  the  ilrmoiret  di  Montuc,  and 
Ji  lUrd  volume  of  Fmiitart.  The  works  to  be  isiaed 
JlnSwiU  be  the  fourth  volume  of  frariiari,  (Emrct 
(vol  vi.j,  volume  the  second  of  the  JKtmoii 
Eire,  and  La  Chrotuipta  de    "■ 


BOOKS    AND    ODD    VOLUMES 
W&HIED  TO  PDBGHABB. 
tiniu'i  of  Priix,  ac..  oTiha  Ibllo^iiir  tnoiu  u  bemt  direct  ta 


F,  E-i;  Uplgn  PhIi,  Fuole. 


■t.  Slartial  de 


Hx.  Bali.iwki.i.'9  DosAtioms,  —  According  to  The 
*Wiim,  Mr.  Halliwell  is  distributing  his  literary  rari- 
<<«  *ith  ■  moat  liberal  hand.  The  presentation  of  his 
*««e  md  valuable  bhakeapeara  Library,  including,  it  ia 
•""i  no  !«»a  than  tbiitv-eight  of  the  early  quarto  editions 
I  <  the  dayi  to  the  Oniveraity  of  Edinburgh,  has  been 
tUmndbyi  ci^  to  the  Shakespeare  Huseum  at  Stralfbrd- 
I  £^°''  °'  ^*  ""'^  modern  books  in  bis  library,  in- 
^  'Wiag  nnrosroas  volnmea  tii  nnpubliahed  notes  oa  the 
harfBhakn^ain. 

L_^^ow>  Bxiifn,b~In  ijdta  of  tha  dictum  of  Lord 
[■■»<•  tbat  eoifMathiiii  have  no  ■onl^  tiie  Habei^ 


^tXitti  to  Carrcj^otittcnU. 

The  number  of  QuiriVi  akiA  hat  reached  ■>  fa(e/y  it  t* 
great  that  xe  have  thii  treri  Jt'reft  iip  to  Ihem  mote  thait 
their  ordinary  ihare  of  our  tpace,  and  have  conieaieHll)) 
beai  compelled  to  poilponc  latil  next  "'S.  &  Q/'  Mr. 
Hotkint't  paper  on  "  Rede  me  and  be  not  Wrothe,"  Mr. 
9.  G.  Nitholft  on  "  The  Ostrich  Feathers  of  the  Prince 
of  Walea,"  atid  leveral  other  ariiclet  of  great  nlenst. 

J.  C.  J.— There  imat  be  tme  m$lake  in  the  dale  efihe 
minulKre,  1T90.  .^DAn  Sabiaki,  Sing  of  Poland,  died  i» 
1696:  SlindtlaiaII.(AiigiutiaPonialBWitiy,btciiiur%!rr 
in  1764,  owJ.tii  ]T9S  lA<  kiiigdotii  becont  extinct. 

Frkdebick  JjEOBOE  Lk«,  D.CJ*— iHat  article!  on 
the  Tower  Ghott  story  ofpeared  in  "  N.  ft;  Q."  2°*  S. 
Yo]B.I,andxL 


212 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[i'l*  S.  IX.  Mari 


purporting  to  be  an  autobinqrapliy  of  Napoleon  I^  was 
written  by  «/.  F^  LuUin  de  ijhatenumenx.  See  Michavd^ 
fiiographic  Universelle,  xxv.  469 ;  antl  Didot,  Nouvcllc 
Biographic  Gen^rale,  ed.  1860,*xxu.  245. 

p.  J.  Drakkkori)  (Now  Beckcnham.) — The  inscrip- 
tion on  the  print  of  a  UHiman  preaching  in  a  tub^  **Coacrrs 
et  Ooacresse  dans  leurs  AssembloeSj*  is  in  allusion  to  the 
Quakers,  being  the  phonetic  spelling  of  kouSkre,  koii&- 
krVcc. 

Bbactox. — The  epitaph  of  Sir  Christopher  Wren,  **Si 
numumentum  remiiris,  circwnspice"  was  written  bg  the 
urchitecCs  son^  (Mristopher, 

W.  M.  T. —  Your  query,  and  replies  to  it,  will  be  found 
respectively  on  pp.  1.'18,  lb7  of  the  present  volume, 

\V.  SnbtI). — Heraldic  {R,  M,  Z>.)  answered  in  our  last 
number. 

I0NORAMU8. — Back-scratchers,  such  as  that  weniionrd 
in  Nollekuns  and  his  Tiine8,  nuiy  be  purchased  at  many 
shops  where  brushes  and  combs  are  sold.  The  instrument 
consists  of  a  piece  of  whale-bone  about  twelve  inches  long, 
to  which  is  attached  a  small  ivory  outstretched  hand,  and 
is  well  adapted  for  the  purjtose  its  name  implies. 

N.—  The  degrees  of  Bachelor  and  Doctor  of  Medicine 
are  conferred  by  the  Universities  of  Oxford,  Cambriilge, 
Dublin,  Ditrham,  and  London ;  whilsty  we  believe^  only 
tliat  of  Doctor  is  conferred  by  the  Scotch  (Universities,  and, 
with  the  addition  of  "  Master  in  Surgery,"  by  the  Queen^s 
University  in  Ireland,  The  Royal  Colleges  of  Physicians 
in  the  three  kingdoms  have  no  power  of  conferring  degrees, 
but  they  grant  membership  undfr  the  title  of  "  Fellow,*^ 
**  Member,"  ^^  Licentiate."  A  foot-note  in  the  Calendar 
of  the  University  of  London  states,  *•  that  Bachelors  of 
Medicine  of  the  University  of  London  have  710  right,  as 
such,  to  assume  the  title  of  Doctor  of  Medicine,"  We  con- 
elude  that  this  rule  obtains  eliewhcre, 

Cadoo. —  Some  particulars  of  the  Nuremberg  Tokens 
"cill  be  jonnd  in  Snr.lling^s  View  of  the  Origin,  Nature, 
and  Use  of  Jettons  or  Counters.    Ijond,  17C9,  4to. 

William  Williams. — Do  Fransche  Tyrannic,  Am- 
sterdam, li»74,  is  scarce.     Jts  probalde  value  is  about  IT)*. 

W.  A.  S.  Ik. —  Wc  cannot  find  the  name  of  Abraham 
Washington  in  any  pedigree  of  the  American  president. 

XOTTCE. 

Wc  bey  leave  to  lUte  that  we  decline  to  return  communicRtloni 
whieh.for  any  rea«un,  we  do  not  print;  and  to  this  rule  we  can  make  no 
exception. 

All  communications  whoiild  be  addreiucdto  the  Editor  at  the  OfTlce, 
43,  WcUiiitftou  Street.  W.C. 


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paper  which  shall  in  itself  combine  a  perlectly  smooth  surface  with 
total  freedom  from  Krease. 

The  New  Vellum  "Wove  Club-House  Paper 

will  be  fhund  to  possess  thew  iieculiaritics  eninpletcly,  bcinRr  made  from 
the  best  linen  rairs  only,  itOMVAHiniz  irrvat  tenacity  and  durability,  and 
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213 


LOSDON,  aATVRDAT,  MARCU  IG,  1872. 


CONTENTS.— No  220. 

lOM*'  — "Redo  me  and  bo  not  Wrothe."  1528,  213  — 
Itaw  of  Briddeburg,  214—  The  Trial  Alphabets,  Ac,  216 
•-lliiy  Wran's  Charity.  216  -  Storks:  Cervantes  -  The 
jfcrt  ktod  Rlls  -  Shihy-Shal'ly  —  "  Nothing  can  come 
nwB  Nothing  "  —  A  new  Creed  —  Bonspeil :  Bonailla  — 
jagwily— Feltham  Family— A  Misprinted  Tradition  of 
AoniOQ^s  **  Seasons/'  210. 

OnUOBS :  —  Bev.  George  Alsop  -  Wm.  Bardolf :  Hephall 
rKWe  of  1590  —  Blue  Blood  -  Burial  in  Woollen  —  The 
una  of  the  Latin  Princes  of  Antioch  —  De  Burgh  and 
{write  Queries  —  Else—  Etherington  Family  —  Eyans  of 
vrnitone,  OzfordRhire:  Bosvennon  of  Sancreed,  Corn- 
'Ml— Final  e  in  Early  English  and  in  Patois  —  Freema- 
•nw-Lady  Kitty  Hyde  —  Lord  Chancellor's  State  Coach 
~-Loird-Lieatenant  —  "  Mary  is  sonne  "  —  Monastic  Li- 
jnriM- George  Morhind- William  Parker  —  Pightle — 
VMtitions  wanted  —  Kanz-des-Vaches  —  Earl  of  Sand- 
Jfch :  "The  Squire's  Pew  "—J.  Scott  of  Spanish  Town— 
SJW  of  the  Kings  of  Con  naught  —  Sergius  —  J.  Sobieski  — 
rae  Speaker's  (S>ach  —  The  Sultan  —  St.  Winell,  218. 

^•iJIESr-The  Ostrich  Feathers  of  the  Prince  of  Wales.  221 
""  JUton's  tJse  of  the  Superlative.  222  —American  Cente- 
BumiU)  223— Birthplace  of  Pltfutus  and  Temple  of  Jupiter 
^IKnninas,  224 —Three  Leaves  eaten  for  the  Holy  Sacra- 
■••gt,  2».  —  My  fkn  wy  —  Sir  Eobert  Peat — l^nlac — Scores 
rTbe  Devil's  Nutting  Day  —  Dr.  B.  H.  Black  and  James 
ftck  -  Novelists*  Flowers  —  **  Manure"  — Archbishop 
"hckbume— "  Like  the  Sunny  Side,"  &c.  —  George  Wat- 
5JD*Tiyk)r,  M.P.»—  Ashen  Faggot  —  Thomas  Bateman. 
<&■"  Heron  or  Heme  —  Scales  and  Weights  —  "  Aired  " 
rOol.  Archibald  Strachan  — "  Are  you  there  with  your 
**»?"  —  Play  the  Bear  — Stamp  used  instead  of  the 
■isn  Manual  of  Henry  YIII.,  225. 

'atfliODBooki.ftc. 


"REDE  ME  AND  BE  NOT  WROTHE,"  1528. 

I  have  had  the  satisfaction  of  showing  briefly 
™  "N.  &  Q.,"  and  at  large  in  the  IntennSdiare 
^  CkardieurB  et  Cuneiw,  that  the  celebrated 
^WiL  the  Songe  du  Vergier  (the  authorship  of 
J^Ga  has  been  attributed  in  turn  to  a  dozen 
l^^och  writers),  is  only  an  expansion  of  the 
^^fiogus  inter  Chrtcum  ^  MilUetn  of  Occam ;  and 
l^oow  propose  to  prove  that  the  "  Lamentacion 
w  tie  Masse,"  in  the  equally  celebrated  tract 
T*^  tne  and  he  not  Wrotnej  written  by  Roy  and 
r'^^we,  and  printed  by  John  Schott  at  Strasburg 
™  1628,  is,  in  like  manner,  the  expansion  of  an 
Jjnymous  Latin  treatise  written  probably  about 
gjyear  1527.  The  treatise  referred  to  exists,  as 
^  M I  am  aware,  only  in  a  MS.  in  mj  possession, 
Wp^Wntly  of  German  origin,  and  which  formerly 
■^Wtod  to  Dr.  Kloss* 

^Qbjoined  are  some  parallel  passages  which 
!^  I  think,  establish  the  accuracy  of  my  assertion. 
^J"^  are  fifty-seven  stanzas  of  three  lines  each  in 
r^  Us.,  and  thirty-four  stanzas  of  six  lines  each 
*  the  "Lamentacion."  The  burden  following 
Jfek  verse  in  the  MS.  is  "  One,  one  "  ("  0  vae ! 
yvaa!");  and  in  the  '* Lamentacion,'  "Now 
<leceaaed,  alas !  alas!" 

Lamentacion^  y.  4. 

"  praw  neere  ve  prestis  in  your  longe  gowni«, 
Wfth  all  tae  fryres  of  the  b^ggerly  ordres ; 
Com  Mther  monlofl,  with  brode  shaven  crounis, 


And  all  soche  as  are  shaven  above  the  ears, 
Ilelpc  me  to  lament  with  dolorous  teares, 
Scyinge  that  gone  is  the  masse, 

Nowe  deceased,  alas !  alaa ! " 

MS. 

*'  Uic  adeste,  gemebundi. 
Hie  adeste,  plorabundi, 
Omnes  uncti  rasique. 

Oue,  oue." 

Lamentacionf  v.  6* 

"  Departid  is  nowe  the  masse  and  clean  gone. 
The  chief  upholder  of  our  liberte, 
Wherby  our  whores  and  harlotis,  every  drone, 
Were  maynteyned  in  ryche  feUdte,"  Ac  Ac. 

MS,,  V.  22. 
"  0  missae,  qnot  aluistis 
Meretrices,  et  fonistis 
Sacerdotum  spurios. 

Oue,  one," 

Lamentacion^  v.  18. 
''  By  the  masse  we  were  exalted  so  hye. 
That  scantly  men  we  wolde  once  knowe, 
We  thought  for  to  ascend  onto  the  skye, 
Havj'nge  our  seate  above  the  rayne  bowc ; 
But  we  are  come  downe  agayne  full  lowe, 
Seynge  that  gone  is  the  masse. 

Now  deceased,  alas !  alas ! " 

MS.,  V.  9. 

**  Nam  fuistis  olim  primi, 
Et  nunc  inter  omnes  imi, 
Missa  vestra  mortua  est 
Oue,  one." 


Lamentacionf  v.  19. 
'*  The  masse  made  us  lordis  and  kyngis  over  all, 
Farre  and  near  every  wheare  havyng  power, 
Wyth  honorable  tytles  they  dyd  us  c^,"  &c.  &c 

MS,,  V.  12. 

**  Esse  mundi  vos  potentes, 
Longe  lateqne  potentes  (sic) 
Missa  fecit  dominos. 

Oue,  oue." 

Lameni€u:ion,  v.  21. 

**  The  masse  was  only  our  singular  sufirage 

To  deliver  the  people  from  their  synne,"  &c.  &c. 

MS,,  v.  16. 

**  Rem  nullam  non  ezpiavit, 
Quisqnis  rasus  celebravit 
Missam  pro  peconia. 

Oue,  one." 

Lamentacionf  v.  28. 

**  Eynges  and  prynces,  for  all  their  dignitie 
To  displease  ub,  feued  out  of  meaanre.*' 

MS.,  v.  18. 
"  Siiflsae  res  hue  redienint, 
Et  DOS  snmmi  timnenint 
Bcges  atque  prindpes. 

One^one.* 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*1*  S.  IX.  Maboh  16»  7S. 


Zjamentacion,  v.  25. 

•  ••••• 
**  From  sycknes  and  pestilent  mortalitie. 

The  socoure  of  the  masse  dyd  us  defcnde." 

•  •«••• 

3f  S.,  V.  24. 
*'  Missa  profligavit  pestcs, 
^  MiAsa  coDservavit  vestes, 

Missa  tulit  plavias. 

One,  one." 

Lamentaciont  v.  25. 

"  To  soudears  and  men  goynge  a  warre  fare, 
The  masse  is  ever  a  sure  proteccion ; 
It  preserveth  people  from  wofull  care, 
Dryvynge  awa3'e  all  afHiccion. 
Alas !  who  can  share  by  descripcion 
All  .the  profittis  of  the  masse, 

Nowc  deceased,  alas !  alas ! 

MS.f  V.  25,  27,  29. 
**  Mitua  fruges  est  juvatu, 
Missa  pugnas  auspicata. 


»» 


Missa  ]\ivit  viutores, 
Missa  levavit  dulores, 
Missa  fecit  omnia. 

■  ■  •  ■ 

Et  quis  possit  numerare, 
Kt  exact e  memorare 
Dotes  missne  siiigulas." 


Lamentacion,  v.  20. 

"  Never  sence  the  worlde  was  fyrste  create, 
Was  there  a  thynge  of  aoche  rcputacion." 
.  ..... 

MS.,  V.  31. 

**  Ex  quo  tellus  e,«»t  crcata, 
Nulla  talis  fuit  nata 
Kerum  commutatio.'* 


lAimentacionj  v.  31. 

**  The  goodes  of  the  churche  are  taken  aw  aye, 
Geuen  to  poore  folkes  soffrynge  indigence." 

•  ••••• 

MS.,  V.  36. 

**  Bona  tempi!  rapiuntur, 
Ut  in  stipem  dividentur, 
Indigis  paupcribus.'' 


>» 


The  above  passages  are  selected  from  a  number 
evidently  parallel.  I  believe  the  Latin  version 
tti  have  preceded  the  English,  principally  on  in- 
ternal evidence.  The  date  1627,  however,  imme- 
diately follows  in  my  MS.  the  conclusion  of  this 
little  treatise.  Confirmation  of  this  view  may  bo 
found  in  the  undoubted  fact  that  Rov  translated 
"  out  of  Laten  "  the  dialogue  Inter  patrem  Chris- 
tianum  etJUiurn  cmUumacem. 

It  cannot  but  be  an  interesting  study  to  trace 
the  origin  of  a  work  so  full  of  vigour  and  en- 
liprhtened  forecast  as  the  Rede  me  and  be  not 
IVrothe,  J,  Eliot  Hodgkik. 

West  Derby,  Liverpool. 


BARONY  OF  BRIDDEBUBO. 

The  charter  of  Robert  Bruce,  of  which  I  spoke 
(4'*"  S.  V.  5G2),  May  24,  1320,  in  the  foarteenth 
year  of  his  reign,  to  Thomas  de  Kyrkepatrie.  ia 
dated  at  Lochmaben  Castle.  I  have  oQtained  a 
fac-simile  of  the  old  charter,  which  was  litho- 
graphed by  the  late  Mr.  C.  Kirkpatrick-Sharjpe  of 
.  Iloddam ;  but  the  copy  b}r  Rae  is  substantially 
correct,  with  a  slight  omission  of  the  last  part  oi 
the  charter.  I  have  added  within  brackets  as 
much  of  the  omitted  part  as  I  have  been  able  to 
decipher.    It  is  as  follows :  — 

"  RobertuH  del  gratia  rex  Scotonim,  omnibus  proUf 
hominibus  tocius  terro  sue  salutem.  Sciatis  not  dedlMe, 
concessissc  et  hac  presenti  carta  nostra  confinnaiBe  Tbcme 
de  Kyrkepatrie,  militi  dilecto  et  fideli  nostra  pro  homagio 
et  servicio  suo  duas  denariatas  terre  cam  pertinendis  in 
villa  do  Briddcburg  intra  vicecomitatem  de  Dramftlai. 
Tciiend.  et  Ilabend.  eidem  Thome  et  heredibns  suia  da 
nobis  et  heredibus  nostris  in  feodo  et  bereditate  et  in 
\'>)eram  baroniam  per  omnes  rectas  metas  et  divisas  iUi 
.ibcrc,  qniete,  plenarie  et  honorifice  cum  omnibus  libeita- 
tibus,  com  modi tatibus,  aysiamentis  et  justis  pertineneBi 
suis.  Facicndo  inde  nobis  et  Heredibus  nostria  diotoi 
Thomas  et  Ileredes  sui  [seivicium  daorum  .  .  .  in  .  .  . 
nostro  et  tres  ...  ad  curiam  vicecomitatia  noifare  da 
Drunifries  . .  .  singulis  annis  ibidem  tenendam.  Tn  a^jm 
rei  testimonium  presenti  carte  nostre  siciUum  noitnui 
precepi.uus  apuonij.  Testibus  llernardo  Abbate  de  Abai^ 
brotliic,  cancellario  nostro,  Waltero  senescaUo  Seodm, 
.laoobo  doinin«)  de  Duglass,  Joanne  de  Meneteth,  Robvla 
(lu  Keith,  Maresoallo  nostro  Scoci®  et  Alexandra  de  Seloa 
inilitibus.  [A  pud  Lochmaben  vicesimo  quarto  die  ]CaQ« 
Anno  regni  nostro  quarto  decimo]." 

This  charter  of  May  24  is  granted  some  ax 
weeks    after  the  Parliament  assembled  in  tke 
abbey  of  Arbroath,  in  which  the  spirited  iiddiwi 
to  the  pope  was  adopted  on  April  6, 1320L  lemon- 
strating  against  the  grievous  wrongs  that  nad  been 
accumulated  on  the  nation,  and  asaerting  fhe  in- 
dependence of  the  kingdom.    The  namea  of  tke 
witnesses  to  the  charter  are  all  of  them  fiNnd 
attached  to  the  remonstrance,  except  the  Alibot 
Bernard.    Walter,  high  steward  of  ScotJand^  li 
the  husband  of  Marjory,  daughter  of  Bmofl^  and 
whose  son  succeeded  as  Robert  IL     Jamea  da 
Duglass  is  the  ^'  Good  Sir  James/*  the  attaoUL 
friend  of  Bruce,  who  fell  in  Spain  on  hia  mj  to 
the  Holy  Land  with  Bruce's  neart;  whUe  Aa 
next  witness,  John  de  Meneteth,  is  the  friend  of 
Edward  I.,  who  is  accused  of  betraying  WaUaaa* 
to  the  English.    He  was  brother  to  the  Mztl 
Earl  of  Menteth.    Robert  de  Keith  conunanM 
the  horse  at  the  battle  of  Bannockbani|  ISlii 
contributing  not  a  little  to  the  aocoeaa  of  As 
Scots.    Alexander  de  Seton  was  goremor  of  Bflr> 
wick  when  it  was  besieged  by  the  EnffUahy  188fc 
We  thus  find  the  witnesses  to  be  all  of  them  a^ 
of  mark. 

It  was  a  graceful  acknowledgment  of  ¥39% 
Robert's  gratitude  to  the  Eirkpatriek  &n^l|^ 
erect  this  southern  part  of  doaebam  paiialiiflte 


A 


("S.  IX.  March  1( 


•"■I 


NOTES  AXD  QUERIES. 


ft  distinct  barcmy,  as  its  ivild.'  often  i.-tive  i*fii)re  tn 
faim  during  hia  strii^^rlft  for  the  iniloppndpncc  of 
Uh  conntrv.  Tlia  iitiiiio  still  continues  llontiiig 
down  the  strenm  of  time.  Rob's  Corae  (Ctosb), 
King's  Well,  Kinfr's  Stnnd-biini,  nra  ns  well 
knuwD  at  the  present  momfnt  to  the  inhobilaiits 
of  Closebum,  as  if  he  had  lived  yesterday  instead 
of  nearly  sii  hnndred  jpHrs  ajro.  The  nanie  of 
Bridjeburg-,  however,  hits  now  nearly  disappeari'd ; 
there  is  only  a  woollen  mill  caHed  tiurbrufth  tliat 
fixes  its  position,  thou|rh  I  see  by  old  documents 
to  which  I  bikve  had  access  that  there  used  t<>  he 
an  u^per,  middle,  and  nether  Burbmgh.  The 
vidssitudea  of  families,  the  removal  of  old  in- 
habitants, and  the  union  of  farms,  have  obliterated 
all  recoUectioQ  of  this  barony ;  which  in  the  t^i- 
roU  of  1554  is  valued,  under  the  name  of  Brog- 
hnrgh,  at  10/.  Scots  money,  while  "  Kylosbern  " 
u48l, 

Ebpevaer  inquires  (4"  S.  vi.  11)  whether  this 
baronv  of  Briddeburg  was  within  thS  barony  of 
KyloaDem."  It  was  not  so.  The  original  pariah 
was  Dalgamoch,  extending  at  least  Inn  miles 
in  length.  It  contained  two  distinct  baronies, 
and  parts  of  a  third.  1  asked  (4'"  S.  vi.  01)  whe- 
ther the  lands  composing  Tybaria  barony  could 
be  enumerated?  I  have  sinco  obtained  extracts 
and  copies  of  original  charters,  which  show  that 
the  following  lands  in  Daigamoclt  pariah  formed 
parte  of  that  barony,  namely,  Auchinlech  (Town- 
oead  and  Townfoot),  Newtown,  Locherben,  Gar- 
rock,  Oubhill,  Enockinshang,  Birkhill,  with  Vnl- 
gamock  town— no  longer  in  existence,  but  which 
waa  aituited  near  the  old  church  on  the  banks  of 
thaNith.  The  charter  in  which  Dal^amo  town  is 
mentioned  as  belonging  to  Tvbaris  bnrony  is  the 
one  referred  to  by  AsoLO-Scbiua  (4'"  S.  v.  2m) 
M  hang  in  the  Dmmlanrijf  charter  chest  (Oct.  10, 
1423)  :  a  resimatiun  of  Edward,  eon  of  John  of 
Crawford,  to  his  superior  George  do  Dunbar,  Earl 
of  Blarch,  in  favour  of  George  do  "Kyrkepatric, 
■on  of  Thomas  de  Kyrkepatric,  Lord  of  Kvlos- 
bem.  Kylosbern  barony  occupied  n  very  large 
portion  of  Dalgamock  parish,  though  its  precise 
iMnnidaries  on  all  sides  are  not  (riven.  By  what 
king  the  barony  was  granted,  I  have  seen  no 
document  to  show;  but  in  a  charter  of  conflrma- 
tion  granted  by  Ale^tantler  II.  in  12^3  to  Ivan  de 
KyAepatric,  it  is  8tat«d  that  the  barony  whs  in 
Hi  poBMseion  of  King  David  I.,  who  roiimed  ik)m 

There  are  soibo  other  questions  of  Espeharr 
TOch  1  ought  to  have  answered  long  ago,  and  to 
»Wn  I  must  apologise  for  this  seeming  di»- 
orart<«y.  In  a  future  paper  I  shall  irfve  the  in- 
IwnalioD  which  he  reijuircs.        C.  T.  Rauaoe. 


THE    TRIAL    ALPHABETS. 
TicnnonNB  v.  DilchBotM. 
Ko.  I. 
.\ — I.'^  fat  Arthur,  his  real  name  dropping. 
B— The  same  man,  Butcher  Orton  of  JVapping. 
C — Sir  John  Coleridge,  the  Queen's  own  attorney. 
ID — Dowager,  enfrer  to  pay  her  son's  journey. 
E — Edward  Stillworthy,  stout  in  denial. 

F — The  wise  Foreman,  so  shrewd  at  the  trial. 
(i — Mr.  tJosford,  long  practiced  and  clear. 
H — Voung  Sir  Henry,  the  Baronet  dear. 

I — Itchen  Abbots,  which  Orton  hired  clever. 

J — The  poor  Jury,  so  patient  for  ever. 

K — Is  Knoyle  House,  where  Arthur  ne'er  went. 

L — Lawyer  Hopkins,  on  mischief  intent. 

M — la  Jack  Moore,  who  made  such  a  mess  of  it. 

N — Mre.Nangle,  who  had  to  aaj  less  of  it 

O — Fabulous  Osprey,  with  Tom  on  board  mellow. 

P — PariSjSO  well  known,  unknown  to  the  fellow. 

Q — The  great  Question  involved  in  the  case. 

K — Mrs.  RadclifTe,  proved  free  from  disgrace. 

S — Stonyhuist,  whjch  the  man  never  knew. 

T — Tichbome,  be  knew  not,  though  fall  in  his 

U — Upton  House,  where  Sir  Edward  had  dwelt. 
V — Valparaiso,  where  Castro  had  dealt 
W — Wagga-Wagga,  where  Tom  took  a  wife. 
X — Tri^  Eipenses  involving  for  life. 
Y — Stands  for  the  Year  when  the  great  cnnsa 

was  tried, 
Z— For  the  Zest  with  which  Orton  baa  lied. 


No.  II. 
For  Iht  more  adeancKt. 

A— 's  Andrew  Bogle,  black  every  way  found. 
B — Is  Frank  Baigent,  a  mummy  unwound. 
C— Cater  the  baker,  at  famed  WagRa-Wagga. 
T) — ^Dabinson  got  the  cat  out  of  the  oag-ah  I 
E — Essei  Lodge,  where  "  Mama  "  was  to  come. 
F — Rue  de  Ferme,  which  Tom  called  Rue  de  Film, 
Q — Giffard,  who  proved  too  uncourteous  by  half. 
H— Hawkins,  who  kept  all  the  Court  in  a  laugh. 
I — Is  the  Issue,  which  true  Roger  had. 
J — Jonival,  claimant  said  was  a  lad. 
K— Cousin  Kate,  Roger  hoped  he  should  wed. 
L — Letts,  who  to  Holmes  nothing  straightfoiy 

ward  said. 
M — Melipilla,  to  Orton  we  leave. 
N — Whom  the  claimant  knew  not,  Iddy  Neave. 
O — Orton's  self,  the  big  butcher  of  Wapping. 
P — Purcell,   each    day   for  the    Doughty   side 

stopping. 
Q — Seijeant  Quin,  of  the  old  rusty  sword. 
R — Rouse  of  the  Swan,  where  Tom  had  bed  and 

board. 
S — Stephens,  whom  Orton  pretended  to  be. 
T— The  Tattoo  marks,  whicb  never  had  he. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«hS.IX.MABCHlS,'71 


U — Those  Undone  by  the  long  Trial's  cost. 
V — Vinings  deposed  that  the  Bella  was  lost. 
W — Wappinj^,  the  butcher's  birth-star. 
X — For  £^aiisted,  as  all  the  Court  are. 
Y — Is  New  York,  where  last  Orton  sailed  from. 
Z — All  the  Zanies  who  welcomed  him  home. 

F.  C.  H. 

MARY  WRAGG'S  CHARITY. 

I  have  enclosed  a  cutting  from  the  West  Kent 
News  of  Feb.  3,  respecting  a  charity  in  the  parish 
of  Beckenham,  which  may  interest  some  of  your 
readers,  called  ^^  Mary  Wragg's  Charity  ":  — 

**  On  Monday  last  the  seventy-seventh  annual  distri- 
bution of  this  bequest  was  made  in  the  vestry  of  the  Old 
Church,  Beckenhaxn,  Kent,  by  the  rector  and  his  wardens, 
to  tweBtv  poor  persons,  who  each  received  five  shillinf^s' 
worth  of  coal,  eighteen-pennyworth  of  bread,  and  the 
same  amount  of  meat,  besides'4«.  6d.  in  money.  But  the 
donor  added  a  sin^ar  condition  to  her  gift — that  on  the 
28th  of  January  m  every  3'car  her  vault  shall  be  swept, 
the  coffin  dusted,  and  her  last  resting-plnce  put  in  order ; 
and  in  the  event  of  this  condition  being  neglected,  the 
whole  of  the  sum  is  to  pass  to  the  adjoining  parish  of 
Bromley.  We  need  scarcely  add  that  our  Bromley  friends 
entertain  no  sanguine  expectations  of  such  a  transfer. 
After  the  rector  and  wardens  had  visited  the  vault,  any 
persons  who  desired  were  admitted  to  this  singular  recep- 
tion, where  Mr.  Dennis,  the  sexton,  ven^  civilly  officiated 
as  Miss  Wragg's  chamberlain,  and  patiently  afforded  the 
information  sought  by  the  most  inquisitive  of  her  guests, 
until  the  hour  of  twelve,  when  her  quiet  habitation  was 
locked  up  in  deathly  silence  till  the  world  is  a  year  older. 

"  In  pa.ssing,  we  may  observe  that  there  is   a  verj' 

Eretty  little  romance  told  of  Mary  Wragg,  of  which  we 
ave  heard  more  than  one  version.  The  purpprt  of  the 
l^end  is,  that  once  upon  a  time  Mary — not  then  Wragg 
at  all — was  passing  through  the  village  in  Hore  distress, 
and  that  some  of  the  kindly-dis])ose(l  inhabitants  adminis- 
tered very  liberally  to  her  necessities,  and  she  went  on 
her  way  rejoicing.  Some  time  afterwards  she  got  into 
better  circumstances,  and  married  a  person  named  ^Vragg, 
who  was  in  easv  circumstances,  bv  which  ^hc  was  en- 
abled  to  manifest  her  gratitude  to  the  i)eople  of  IK'c ken- 
ham  for  their  former  kindness,  and  tu  reward  tliein  by 
this  pious  bequest.  We  are  quite  unacquainted  with  the 
origin  of  this  stor}%  but  the  vault  and  incinoriul  stone 
above  alone  contain  sufficient  evidence  to  show  that,  so 
far  aa  she  was  concerned,  there  is  no  truth  in  it.  The 
vault  was  evidently  the  family  vault  uf  lu^r  parents, 
Samuel  and  Mary  Wragg,  the  former  a  Londun  mer- 
chant, and  used  by  them  during  the  greater  part  of  the 
last  century.  The  breastplate  of  a  coffin,  long  since 
fallen  to  pieces,  contains  an  account  of  the  death  of  Mary 
Wragg,  the  merchant's  wife,  in  1737,  as  set  forth  on  the 
stone  above.  The  cedar  coffin  of  our  benefactress — which 
rather  resembles  a  chest  than  anything  we  are  accus- 
tomed to  associate  with  our  ideas  of  a  coffin — seems  as 
fresh  as  if  it  had  been  placed  there  but  a  year  ago, 
instead  of  having  enclosed  the  maiden  form  of  Mary 
Wragg  for  seventy-eight  ycarsi  We  will  close  this  part 
of  our  notice  bv  the  expression  of  a  doubt  thnt  tlie 
journalist  who  shall  record  her  liberality  one  hundred 
years  hence  will  find  any  imitator  of  her  charity  in 
this  iron-heade4l,  iron-hearted,  money-accumulatingage. 
Then  charity  was  esteemed  a  religious  duty,  now  it  is  a 
womout  notion — a  thing  to  be  talked  about,  but  not 
practised."  D.  J.  Dkakefokd. 


Storks:  Cervaktes. — 

"Men  have  received  divers  wholesome  inBtnetta 
and  many  lessons  of  importance  from  beasts:  sudiutti 
clyster  from  storks,  the  vomit  and  gratitude  firom  dofik 
vigilance  fram  cranes,  industry  from  ants,  wodaltf  fim 
elephants,  and  fidelity  from  horses." — Don  Qdxtk^  fl. 
p.  G8.  Edit.  London :  Tonaon  and  Draper,  1749. 

The  following  extracts  will  illuBtrate  the  fiat 
of  these  alleged  lessons,  which  I  have  italiciwdi 
Plutarch,  De  Iside  et  Osiride,  cap,  75,  writes:— 

'H  8^  "liSiY,  airoKrtivQwra  ik\v  rh  Oeawnt^fya  vwr  ^ 
weruyf  ^8/8a|c  wp^rn  Ktv^naros  larpucov  XP*^'"'  mnU'" 
ras  o&ro)  K\v^0fi4vriv  Koi  KaOoupofxdyriy  v^*  lavr^f. 

Pliny,  Nat.  Hid.  viii.  27,  says : — 

"Simile  quicquam  monstravit  in  JEgypto  Ihi%  m 
rostri  aduncitato  per  eam  partem  se  pmoit,  qua  noA 
ciborum  onera  maximb  salubre  est." 

Herodotus  does  not  refer  to  this  curiona  habit 

of  the  bird,  but  a  French  commentator,  in  a  note 

on  his  account  of  the  ibis,  writes: — 

<<  Klian  (Nat.  Hist.  Animal,  ii,  xxxy)  et  Pline  (Ik 
cit.)  nous  disent  que  I'lbis  se  donne  un  Uvement  SfW 
le  bee.  Cela  so  trouve  confirm^  par  le  m^canisme  da  m 
bee,  qui,  lorsqu'il  est  fermd  parait  parfaitement  nai  M 
dehors,  et  forme  un  canal  en  dedans  de  la  mSme  flgViL 
Lesdeux  partiea  ainsi  jointcs  laissent  une  petite  oawtan 
par  le  bout  pour  en  faire  sortir  I'eau  de  mer,  dcmt  oa  dk 
qu*il  se  nettoie  le  corps." 

I  have  not  yElian  by  me.  There  are  other  alh- 
sicns  to  the  habit  in  Cicero,  Ovid,  &c. 

The  wonderful  communities  of  cranefli  wA 
their  posts  and  sentinels,  maj  well  teach  At 
lesson  of  vigilanccy  and  the  habits  of  the  fllp^rliff*^ 
are  spoken  of  by  several  writers. 

Herbeet  RAirDOLeBi 

Ringmore. 

Tjte  oldest  DA.TED  Bklls. — ^The  Bbv.  H.T. 
ELLACOMitE  in  his  exhaustive  paper  on  the  chunk 
bells  of  Devon,  printi^'d  in  the  TransadiomM  t^  Hn 
Krrter  Diocesan  Architectural  SocieUf  (2nd  Seriflib 
vol.  i.),  obscM'es  that  *'tho  earliest  known  idm 
bi'U  is  at  FribuTgh  in  the  Black  Forest,  dalnA 
12r>H.-'  Mr.  ]']LLAC0MnE,  in  maldng  tfaia  stito' 
niont,  seems  to  have  overlooked  the  eziatenoe  d, 
the  old  bell  formerly  at  FontenaiUes,  near  BajfSttL 
bearing  the  date  1202,  which  appears  on  the  biU 
thus — Mccii.  Since  the  year  1858,  when  it  VM  , 
cracked  by  a  fall,  it  has  been  preserved  M  % 
curiosity  in  the  museum  at  Bayeux.  Comptflt 
with  a  large  number  of  English  tenor  beUS|%  ' 
cannot  boast  of  large  dimensions,  being  only  S6| 
inches  in  .diameter  at  the  mouth)  and  23|  inehil 
in  height.  At  the  sound-bow  the  metal  is  t*o  ' 
inches  thick,  and  at  the  shoulders  about  one  ncib 
It  possesses  a  greater  length  in  proportion  to  ik 
width  than  bells  cast  in  more  moaem  timeSi  wUl* 
the  waist  is  straighter  and  less  cnrred,  and  Ai 
sound-bow  not  so  prominent  Those  who  tM 
wiiih  to  learn  more  about  this  camnanoIopBH 
treasure  may  consult  with  advantage  ue  BmUH^ 


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217 


Uim.  xxxvi,,  And  M.  de  Cauniont'3 
Abicidaiie,  on  RxdimaiU  iT Arckidhiiiii:  Arfhit-c- 
(ire  rdlffimse,  p.  iilS.  E.  II.  W.  Bcsbix. 

Kidbroake  Turk  Rood,  S.E. 

Shil'lt-Shal'lv. — The  derivation  of  this  noun 
pven  in  the  Imperial  Didionnn/  ia  very  ques- 
tionable : — 

[-KnsB.  lAo/vu,  to  be  foolish,  lo  plav  tbc  fool,  to  plav 
■iDtoii  tricka-l  Foolifh  trifling  i  itresolution.  [  Tn/- 
lar.l  To  sUn.l  ihilly-ttallyim,,  i)  .to  stand  heflitatinc- 
"This  word  baa  probably  been  written  Slilll.J.,riall-I, 
rom  an  igaoraoce  of  it^  origin.]" 

It  appeiT3  to  be  nothing  more  than  a  cortup- 
ion  ot  the  English  words  "  sbatl  I,  shall  I  "  aa  in 
he  following  lines  from  Cotton's  Scarimides,  or 
Firgil  Travetlk,  15lh  edition,  lJublin,1770,  p.  36, 

"  Chear  up  vonr  bearts,  your  spirits  rally. 
And  ne'er  sUnd  foaliDff  eball  I,  shall  I, 
But  buii^,  JDK  on,  bestir  your  tue». 
There  liei  your  way,  follow  vour  tioae." 

S. 
"  NOTHISQ     CAN     COME    FBOJI     KOTniNQ."  — 

?a8serat'8  poem  reminded  me  of  Shakspere'a 
'Nothing  can  come  of  nothing,"  the  parononift- 
ias  epitaph  on  some  unlucky  deceased  whose 
game  vaa  Xiinu: — 

"  Hie  sitns  est  XnUun  nunn  IVuOn  iVui/mi-  i-le.; 
EtqaiaNullKt  ciat,  de  iVWfn  nil  eibi  Chrbto"; 
lod  of  raj  own  translation  of  Pa.<>eerat's  Epittle  to 
VsHunna  in  1801,  when  I  was  keeping  my  terms 
n  the  Middle  Temple.  I  sent  it  to  the  Oentleinan't 
Vagasme,  whose  editor  honoured  mo  with  its  in- 
erdon.  Edmunb  Lbbiqall  Swifie. 

A  FEW  Creed. — It  may  enliven  the  pages  of 
'N.  &  Q."  to  relate  a  small  adventure  of  mine 
oma  yeara  ago.  One  very  rainy  day,  I  was  on 
he  road  on  font,  with  the  prospect  of  it  walk  of 
ome  miles  in  the  rain.  A  gentleman  in  a  gig, 
lOwerer,  overtook  me,  and  politely  offered  me  a 
eat  beside  him,  which  1  thankfully  accepted.  He 
*aa  quite  unknown  to  uie,  und.  as  far  a^  I  know, 

waa  equally  so  to  him.  After  some  pleasant 
alk  on  common  topies,  wo  Btopped  at  the  tiim- 
dke  ^te,  and  I  coutd  see  that  niy  new  frii'nd  was 
ery  intimate  with  the  gatekeeper,  to  whom  he 
landed  down  a  bundle  of  what  I  eupjiose  wi^re 
rocts.  Certainly  a  man  ,it  a  tumpiho  would  have 
be  best  of  opportunities  of   distributing    siith 

When  I  arrived  at  tny  journey's  end,  1  got 
own,  and  warmly  thanked  my  unknown  beue- 
tcEor  for  his  kindness,  iind  so  we  parted.  In  the 
ftemiMn  the  weather  cleared  up,  and  I  walked 
ack  to  my  residence.  Wiien  I  came  to  the  turn- 
ike  gate  again,.  I  naturally  inquireil  of  the  gate- 
eeper  who  the  gentleman  was  in  whose  company 

bad  rode  through  the  gate  that  morning.    The 

utn  «ud  at  once  that  it  was  Mr.  8  — , of 

I .  ,1  obsorred  that  the  gentleman  ap- 


peared to  be  a  clergyman  of  eome  sort ;  and  I 
begged  to  know  if  he  was  a  dissenter  or  a  minister 
of  the  Chureli  of  I'Ingland.  My  informant  was  a 
man  of  rather  singular  appearance.  He  squinted 
with  one  eye,  which  qualiiied  hira  well  for  his 
position,  as  it  enablud  him  to  watch  both  ends  of 
the  road  at  tho  same  time,  and  rendered  the  two 
posts,  marking  IVXl  yards  on  each  side,  perfectly 
useless.  So,  as  he  proceeded  to  answer  my  ques- 
tion, ho  placed  himself  in  the  centre,  put  bis 
hands  in  liia  pockets,  looked  up  and  down  the 
road  simultaneously,  and  then*  favoured  me  with 
tho  following  synopMS  of  his  friend's  religioua 
creed :  "  Why  sir,  I  believe,  be  believe  in  all  that 
allude  to  a  supernatural  effect,  sir."  I  turned 
away  quickly,  not  to  laugh  in  the  man's  face ;  but 
a  creed  so  profound  lasted  me  all  the  way  home  to 
fathom  and  laugh  at  P.  C.  H. 

itoNEPBiL;  BoSAiLLA. — Much  valuable  infor- 
mation, and  that  probablv  now  sufficient,  has  been 
allbrded  to  readers  of  "  l4'.  &  Q."  upon  the  origin 
of  the  word  ipeel  =  n  spale  =  spaLl;  t.  e.  a  chip  or 
splinter  of  wood.  There  is  also  the  verb  to  epeel, 
which,  us  explained,  is  to  climb  or  ascend ;  and 
the  proverbial  eipresaion,  too,  yet  in  daily  use  in 
Scotland,  "  He'll  mak'  a  spoon  or  tpill  a  horn." 
But  we  would  much  wish  to  find  tped  or  spetV 
having  a  meaning  quite  different  from  any  of 
these,  etymologised.  It  is  in  use  uncompounded, 
but  often  found  having  bott  prefixed,  ae  in  boit- 
speU,  which  is  in  comihon  use  among  the  cutlers 
of  Scotland, *and  is  a  game  at  curling — a  general 
gathering  in  order  to  a  match,  or  one  in  which 
several  clubs,  parishes,  or  districts  come  forwaid 
by  invitation  to  contend  for  honour  or  priuB. 
\Ve  would,  therefore,  invite  tho  views  of  yout 
philological  contributors  upou  this  word,  because, 
although  having  an  opinion  of  our  own,  that  is 
not  very  fixed.  Tho  other  Scotch  word  bonaillai/, 
applied  to  a  meeting  by  friends  or  wellwishers  to 
entertain  one,  as  at  dinner  or  supper,  from  respect, 
who  ia  about  to  leave  his  place  of  abode  for  some 
distant  part,  might  also  at  the  same  time  receive 
attention.  Esf^ABG. 

LoKOBViTY. — I  send  you  an  extract  just  as  I 
have  taken  it  from  the  earliest  register  book, 
l)elonging  to  Sneaton,  near  Whitby.  It  may  be 
of  interest  to  vou,  and  to  your  readers,  as  an  entry 
■orihy  of  entire  confidence  (!) :  — 

"  Biu-ialh,  Anna  Ifibi  :  —  VV»  WoudllDUK  i:  Elizabeth 
is  ivife,  used  IHU  yceres  &  above,  n^h  two  buadreil 
irnts  tioth  of  C)i;nle  lismebr.  were  buried  together, 
itli  in  one  gravp,  at  Siieatoii,  Xiir.  IT'"." 

J.  C.  Atkiksos. 

Fei.tham   FiMir.v.  —  I   send   a   note   on   this 

family.      It  is  a  small  addition  In  the  account 

1  in  the  second  edition  of  the  Meaohes,  &c.  by 

Owen  Feltham,  as  revised  by  James  Cumming, 

F.S.A,    London,  1820:— 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  I4<»8.ix.» 


Iwr,  1631.  Proved 

Keglstared  AxuHty  Si,    OdIj  Robert  bis  ton  meationed. 

"  ThB  Will  of  Owen  Feltham,  of  Great  DiCing,  ea  of 
Northampton,  dated  Mav  i,  IBS?,  proved  by  Owen  Felt- 
ham  bis  naphew  and  >ale  executor,  April  23, 1GG8. 

"A  Bond  of  bis  brotber  Kobert  and  Owen  hia  son 
foe  100/.,  '  which  I  hare  paid,'  the  bond  to  be  given  to 
his  brother  Kobert  with  his  love,  tlis  brother  Thomas 
FelthimSOr.  per  annnm  out  of  the  Ic.iso  of  [named]  in 
Ireland,  and  to  hii  brother  Robert's  liflughters  Eliiaboth 
and  Frances  2i>0(.  each  on  marriage  out  of  ihe  same 
iKiM.  To  hia  ntphia  Itkcai  the  lease  of  I  named]  in  co. 
Clare,  Ireland.  To  hit  nephew  Thnmaa  Fertham,  minieter, 
some  booko,  named.  To  his  nephew  Nathaniel  Feltham, 
'whiim  1  have  never  ?e-n.' .W.  To  liia  'sister  Feltbam, 
my  brother  Robert's  wift,  my  nilver  tankard,  with  my 
love  and  ladie  Pelerboro'a  arms  Rravcd  on.'  12/.  for  hfa 
nephew  Owen,  to  buy  a  token  for.  the  noble  ladie  the 
Dowager  Connless  ot  Tbnmond,  silver  tumblers,  and 
silver  spoons  to  Mary  Harab all,  Jkc  &c.  hisneiibew  Uwen 
...... m_:..  i__     :_  „  'J.  c.  RegisUred  "■  "--" 


FelthamofGraiealnn 


The  preamble  to  the  will  U  in  verr  beautiful 
lanrusge.  No  wife  or  child  is  mentioQed.  No 
doubt  the  Lucaa  nacoed  is  the  nephew  of  hu 
brother  Robert's  wife.  G.  J.  H. 

A  MiapRiiTTEii  Tradition!  of  Thdhson'i 
"  Sbasoits."— In  Faulkner's  valuable  Hidory  and 
Antiquities  of  HammersmHh  (London,  18^),  a 
claim  ia  made  for  thnt  ancient  auburh  m  the 
localitT  in  which  a  part  of  TIte  Senmni  was  writ- 
ten. There  still  existi,  as  in  well  known,  a  tavern 
called  "  The  Dove,"  from  a  window  of  which 
aome  lines  descriptive  of  a  freezing  rivei  are  said 
to  have  been  written.  Faulkner  (juotes  the  lines 
from  "Winter"  (verses  725-31,  Rekering  edition 
of  ThomBon's  tforkt,  UStO) :  — 

"  The  loosened  ice 


„        ,      „         .  .Mjinted  atone 

A  crystal  pavement  by  the  breath  of  Heaven 
Cemented  firm ;  till  seized  from  shore  to  shore 
The  whole  imprisonRl  river  grows  below," 

Fsulkner-s  i/omwrrtmiW,  p.  321, 

Such  is  the  quotation  in  the  excellent  work  of 
the  local  historian ;  but  the  Innt  line  has  been 
misprinted  by  one  of  those  curioui  crofses  in  w)iicb 
the  compositor  given  a  kind  of  meaning  to  his 
mistake  which  deceives  the  press  reader.  Bell, 
Pickering,  nnd  nil  the  standard  editions  of  Thom- 
son's Ifiirki,  print  the  line  — 

•'  Tlie  whole  imjirisoncd  river  growli  below." 
or  course  the  italics  nre  mine. 

The  Faulkner  version  has  a  very  questionable 
meaning,  especially  if  applied  to  a  great  river.  In 
a  shallow  stream  the  wattr  migJit  Accumulate, 
and  "prow"  below  the  ice;  but  hardly  so  in  the 
Thames  at  llnminerjiniith.  At  any  rate  the  poet's 
meaning,  which  is  quite  Rvi<lfnt  and  quite  cha- 
racteristic of  a  frsffising  river,  is  lost  in  the  extract. 
E.  Cm  lire  BAM  E. 


Rsv.  Geobgb  Alsop,— In  "  N.  &  Q."  1"  a  v     i 
685,  a  query  was  sent  by  the  lata  Dr.  Phi  ^ 
Bliss,  and  up  to  the  present  time  has  not  b^« 
answered.      Greorgti  Alsop  was  ordained  deiCTciii 
1660-7,  priest  lOOQ.     He  printed  ia  1669  -<rAr 
Orthodox  Plea  for  the  Sanduartf  of  Ood.     I  ban 
come  into  the  posseaaioD  of  the  late  Dr.  Blissir 
copy  of  this  book,  .and  am  wishful  to  repeat  hii 
query,  viz.,  can  any  of  your  readers  give  me  asj 
account  of  tht9  George  Alsop F    It  is  clear  tli4tb, 
is  a  different  person  from  the  Qeorga  Alsop  tk> 
aullior  of  A  Charadir  of  Maryland,   1666.    Not 
onlv  are  the  portriiits  altogether  dissimiUr,  buttk* 
stvle  of  writing  entirely  differs ;  add  to  wliitk 
Alaop  the  traveller  shows  no  disposition  \oimj 
but  a  life  of  activity  and  excitement,  much  laai  bl 
one  of  clerical  duties  and  retirement    Q.  W.  N. 

Alderley  Edge. 

Wm.  J]ardolf:  Hbphill.— Id  an  old  dooi- 

ment  quoted  by  Dugdale  relating  to  St.  TSatft 
Abbey  at  York,  mention  is  made  of  a  WilUiB 
Bardolf,  who  was  Thane  of  Hephall  at  the  tiiH 
of  the  Norman  Conquest.  I  should  ba  obfifid 
by  information  as  to  the  locality  of  Hephall,  md 
by  any  particulars  relative  to  this  William  Blt- 


dolf  or  his  immediate  descendants. 


W.T.L. 


BisLE  OF  1<)90.  —  Can  any  one  tell  ma  wbit 
value,  if  any,  attaches  to  a  Bible  printed  i&  lOBD 
by  the  deputies  of  Christopher  Barker,  in  Zimdoi. 
It  has  alGxed  to  it  the  Psalms  by  Stemhold  nd 
Hopkins,  with  music  bearing  date  1687.  ItweH 
to  nave  been  the  family  Bible  of  some  OaUar 
family,  and  contains  more  than  fonr  pa^  i^ 
entries  of  births,  deaths,  and  marriages,  from  1681 
to  10.50.  I  should  be  g:lad  to  show  It  to  anjr  cm 
interested  who  can  decipher  llism  bettar  toaa  [ 
can.  H.  Satile  Guue 

Arts  Club,  Hanover  Square,  W. 


Bi.rB  Blood.  —  What  is  the  origin  of  tUi 
strange  but  common  expres^on  as  a  wjn/aajm  fa 
good  birth  ?  Whence  did  the  Spaniwds  (fioa 
whom  wo  borrow  it)  derive  the  idea,  or  did  th^ 
invent  it,  and  why  f  '  T.  &  8, 

Bdrial  is  Woolle:(. — This  hu  been  dis- 
cussed in  former  volumes  of  "  N.  £  Q,"  (1"  S>  T^ 
vi.,  X.),  but  I  do  not  find  that  the  exact  data  ku 
vet  been£!iven  when  the  Act  ceased  to  bainfima 
1  Imvfl  lately  seen  a  register  kept  ex[naalj  lit 
the  entry  of  burials  in  woollen.  It  commeoH* 
.lanuary  11,  1078,  and  the  last  burial  was  o 
August  10,  1TY3.    The  book  was  exhibited  m 


[•  There  is  a  oirjoiu  note  OQ  bins  bltwd  la^H.^Qf 
!-*  S.  viii.  440.— En.]  * 


4*S.  IX.  March  16, '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


219 


April  7,  1777,  before  J.  Honywood  and  G.  Lynch. 
On  the  next  page  is  an  entry — 

"  All  certificates  have  been  regularly  produced  as  y* 
law  directs. 

"  Geo.  L\ifCH,  Rector. 
**  Exhibited  this  4*  day  of  May,  1778.  before  us, 

"  Wm.  Dekdks. 
J.  Bridges." 

What  was  the  object  of  the  law  ? 

Habdric  Mobphyn. 

The  Coins  of  the  Latin  Princes  of  Antioch. 
Is  there  any  monograph  upon  the  coinage  of  the 
Latin  princes  of  Antioch,  and  where  is  to  be 
found  the  best,  or  indeed  any,  account  of  the  coins 
struck  by  them  ?  The  Latin  sovereignty  or  prin- 
cipality of  Antioch  was  established  by  Bohemond, 
the  eldest  son  of  Robert  Guiscard,  during  the  first 
crusade  ;  and  all  his  successors,  until  the  destruc- 
tion of  the  Christian  dynasty  by  Mahomedan  con- 
quest, were  also  named  Bohemond,  the  last  being 
Bohemond  VU.  I  have  in  my  possession  eighty- 
four  coins  struck  by  one  or  more  of  these  pnnces. 
On  the  obverse  is  **Boamundus"  with  a  rude 
figure  of  a  man's  bust,  the  neck  and  shoulders 
coTered  with  mail ;  and  on  the  reverse  is  "  Anti- 
ochia ''  with  a  cross.  These  coins,  which  much 
resemble  in  appearance  the  *'  short  cross  '*  English 
pennies  ascrioed  to  Henry  II.  or  Henry  III.,  are 
all  alike  in  general  character,  but  there  are  dif- 
ferences enough  to  show  that  they  have  not  been 
all  coined  with  the  same  dies,  and  that  the  coinage 
of  more  than  one  Bohemond  may  perhaps  he 
represented  among  them.  Is  there  any  known 
method  whereby  I  may  discover  whicn  of  the 
many  Bohemonds  struck  the  coins  that  I  have  P 

RD. 

Db  Bitrgh  and  Bourke  Queries. — It  is  re- 
quested that  authorities  may  be  referred  to. 

1.  Who  were  the  father  and  mother  of  Hubert 
De  Burgh,  Chief  Justiciary  of  England  temp. 
King  John  and  Henry  III.,  and  what  brothers  (if 
any)  had  Hubert  ? 

2.  How  was  said  Hubert  related  to  William 
.Rtz-Adelm  De  Buij?ho,  who  succeeded  Strongbow 
as  chief  goyemor  of  Ireland  in  1177  ?  Who  were 
said  William  Fitz-Adelm's  immediate  ancestors? 

3.  Who  were  the  wives  of  said  William  Fitz 
Adelm,  and  what  children  had  he  by  each  wife  P 

4.  Who  were  the  paternal  grand-parents  and 
great-grandfather  of  the  great  Edmund  Burke  P 
Did  any  of  his  family  spell  their  name  "  Bourke  P" 

6.  Who  were  the  lineal  male  ancestors  of  the 
Mr.  Bourke  who,  in  1718,  was  settled  in  the 
county  of  Kildare,  where  he  married  and  had 
tliree(four  P)  sons,  Theobald,  Richard,  and  Walter, 
and  one  daughter,  Joane,  married  to  William  Fitz- 
jrerald,  Esq.  P  Are  an^  particulars  known  regard- 
ing Mr.  Booike  and  his  family  P 

.  W.  M.  BOTTKKS. 

Onin^iJUeagh,  Gkiemorrls,  Ireland. 


Else. — Can  any  of  your  readers  explain  the 
meaning  of  the  name  Else  ?  A  person  called  John 
Else  or  Elsse  was  living  at  Woodhall,  near  Horn- 
castle,  in  l.>52.  •  A.  0.  V.  P. 

E therington  Family. — Wanted  the  baptismal 
certificates  of  William  Etherington  born,  in  1719, 
and  Richard  Etherington,  bom  1721,  who  lived  for 
many  years  in  Yorkshire,  and  are  supposed  to 
have  been  baptised  in  that  or  one  of  the  adjoin- 
ing counties.  Also,  the  baptismal  certificate  of 
Ralph  Etherington,  suppose^l  to  be  the  brother  of 
the  above  Richard  and  William  Etherington. 
The  above  are  wanted  for  a  genealogical  priyate 
purpose,  and  therefore  all  information  must  be 
sent  to  me,  Richard  Ethkrington. 

36,  Prince  Street,  New  Wortley, 
Leeds,  Yorkshire. 

Eyans  of  Eaynstone,  Oxfordshire  :  Bosven- 
NON  OF  Sancreed,  CORNWALL. — I  should  be  glad 
with  any  particulars  and  references  to  either  or 
both  of  these  families.  S.  V.  T. 

Final  e  in  Early  English  and  in  Patois. — 
In  the  preface  to  Urry's  edition  of  Chaucer  the 
writer  (Lin tot  P)  says — 

^  I  have  seen  a  note  of  Mr.  Urrv*s  wherein  he  affirms 
that  in  some  parts  jof  England  it  [the  final  e]  is  still 
used,  and  instances* in  the  words  pipij  batUme,  /ine,  &c. 
wherein  the  final  e  is  pronounced  in  Dorsetshire  at  this 
day." 

Can  any  reader  of  *'  N.  &  Q.''  give  me  informa- 
tion on  this  point  P  I  see  nothing  in  Bame6*s 
Glossary  of  the  Dorset  Diatect  to  confirm  it. 

J.  Payne. 

Kildare  Gardens,  W. 

Freemasons. — ^Wanted  information  on  the  fol- 
lowing points : — 1.  Whether  the  order  of  Noachite 
Freemasons  still  exists,  so  interestingly  mentioned 
by  Dr.  Dixon  in  the  little  paper  on  "  I.  H.  S." 
printed  in  a  late  Unitarian  Herald. 

2.  Particulars  concerning  the  order  or  society 
of  "  Freemasons  of  the  Church."  C  yhro. 

IjAdy  Kitty  Hyde. — On  looking  over  some 
ancestral  papers,  written  about  150  years  ago, 
I  found  a  copy  of  verses  "  On  Lady  Kitty  Hyc&'s 
Picture  painted  by  Sir  G.  Kneller,"  in  which  a 
ludicrous  comparison  is  made  between  Apelles' 
picture  of  Venus  and  the  above.  Do  any  of  your 
readers  happen  to  know  in  whose  possession  is 
this  picture  of  Sir  Godfrey  JCneller  P  I  shall  be 
happy  to  send  a  copy  of  the  yerses  on  hearing 
from  the  possessor's  address.  E.  A.  0. 

Chew  Magna  Vicarage,  Bristol. 

Lord  Chancellor's  State  Coach.  —  Lord 
Chancellors  formerly  rode  on  state  occasions  in  a 
coach  similar  to  that  in  which  the  Speaker  of  the 
House  of  Commons  went  to  St  Paurs  on  Feb.  27. 
I  believe  Lord  Chancellor  Cottenham  (who  ceased 
to  hold  the  Great  Seid  on  June  10, 1850)  was  the 
last  Lori  Chancellor  who  used  that  coach;  and 


mssmmM 


lion"*"'  "  ■     ^jnuntf.*""    VmM's  ci>»v"'     -Matm^ 

i;5^«H.?5'«»«'"''"    ^.M^- 
Tnenw""j  -    waiiso  i""   -  1 1  ""'^°\.tti>N'' ■WASTED.--  ^^^^„ bom. 


luentiy  »'-•■„,     See,  wj    vireiol  "'  "        ' 


i^  S.  IX.  Makch  1G,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


221 


ihen,  is  probably  also  ctvinolo^rically  e(iuivalt*nt, 
kking  Yanz  as  a  patois  corruption  oH  tlie  Fnuicli 
mg.  At  the  same  time  he  refers  to  a  proposed 
erivation  of  I'nnz  from  tlie  ]ibiito-Iiomanee  or 
loumausch  rmitrr,  *'  to  fast<'n  a  cow  bv  a  chain." 
he  two  notions  are  evidently  difterent ;  the  one 
Dplying  "  the  goin*?  in  line  of  the  cows,"  the 
ther  the  "  tying  up  of  the  cows."  Can  any 
;udeDt  of  Roumansch  (in  which  patois  the  true 
leaning  seems  to  me  likely  to  be  found)  throw 
irther light  on  the  point  ?  Is  there  in  Roumansch 
ich  a  separate  noun  as  ratiz  at  all,  and  if  so,  what 
its  origin  ?  J.  Pat:?e. 

Kildare  Gardens,  W. 

Earl  of  Sandwich  :  "The  Squire's  Pew." — 
.bout  twenty-four  years  ago  I  read  in  one  of  the 
medicals  a  correspondence  between  one  of  the 
arls  of  Sandwich  and  a  person  who  had  assa.ssin- 
:ed  the  earl's  mistress.  The  composition  of  the 
>tters  was  very  line,  and  I  am  desirous  of  reading 
.  again,  but  have  tried  in  vain  to  iind  it.  Can 
QV  one  assist  me  ?     I  am  also  desirous  of  iinding 

short  poem  called  "  The  Squire's  Pew." 

M.  Spofforth. 

J.  Scott  of  Spanish  Town.  —  Sp.  would  con- 
er  a  great  favour  if  he  would  inform  me  whether, 
Luring  his  researches  among  the  tombs  in  Jamaica^ 
le  discovered  any  memorial  of  J.  Scott,  at  one 
ime  organist  of  Spanish  Town,  as  I  have  hitherto 
sailed  to  obtain  any  biographical  particulars  re- 
pecting  this  composer.  15.  St.  J.  B.  Joule. 

Seal  of  the  Kings  of  Connaught. — Can  any 
ne  inform  me  whether  there  is  in  any  museum 
P  private  collection  the  seal  of  the  ancient  Irish 
"^gs  of  Connaught,  and  if  so  in  which  ?  It  was 
*tainly  in  England  and  in  good  preservation  at 
^^  beginning  of  the  present  century.       T.  E.  S. 

S;EBGrus.  —  Sergius,*  or  Boheira  of  Bosra,  in 
^a  Damacena,  died  a.d.  G89,  and  was  anathe- 
^^zed  as  an  apostate  heretic  forty-two  years 
^i*wards,  at  the  sixth  general  council  of  Rome, 
^^1.  What  accounts  were  then  given  regard- 
T  the  manner  of  his  death ;  and  can  he  be  iden- 
^  or  not  as  being  the  founder  of  the  Bohira 
mercantile  tribes  of  Surat  and  other  places  in 
^tern  India?  R.  Rf  W.  E. 

^tar cross,  near  Exeter. 

j'^-  Sobieski.— Who  was  J.  Sobieski,  King  of 
^  ^land,  about  the  end  of  last  century.  A  fairly 
?^cuted  miniature,  in  gold  frame,  of  about  the 
J?^  1790,  with  the  inscription  at  the  back, — 
p^l^ttrait  and  hair  of  John  Sobieski,  King  of 
*^land,''  has  come  into  my  possession.  I  should 
/^^nch  obliged  if  iny  one  could  tell  me  who  is 
^^P»«8ented.  J.  C.  J. 

^j^He  Spbaker's  Coach. — What  is  the  date  of 
^  Speaker's  state  coach,  and  for  whom  was  it 

*  Ssl^S  Koran  and  Dictionnaire  historique. 


I 


originally  built  ?  I  remember  many  years  ago 
having  been  told  it  had  been  built  for  Richard 
Cromwell.     Is  there  anv  foundation  for  this  ? 

O.  C. 

[In  The  Diartj  and  Correfpondence  of  Lord  Colchester — 
a  liouk  as  rich  in  curious  details  as  in  political  informa- 
tion— we  Iind  (vol.  i.  p.  285)  the  following  memorandum, 
under  the  date  of  1801,  when  the  writer  l^came  Speaker : 
"  To  Lord  Redesdale  I  paid  about  1060/.  foi:  the  state 
coach,  built  in  1701,  and  repaired  in  1801."J 

The  Sultax.  —  What  is  the  proper  form  of 
words  in  which  to  address  the  Sultan  of  Turkey, 
and  what  the  proper  recognised  form  by  which  to 
conclude  a  letter  to  him  r*  Ignoraks. 

St.  W^iNELL. — ^The  first  part  of  the  old  adage 
respecting  the  month  of  March  has  proved  true, 
^^  that  it  has  come  in  like  a  lamb.*'  It  remains  to 
bo  seen  whether  "it  will  go  out  like  a  lion." 
There  is  a  still  older  adage,  well  known  in  the 
county  of  Suflblk,  applying  to  the  coming  in  and 
going  out  of  the  same  month  : —  '' 

"  First  comes  David, 
Then  comes  Chad, 
Then  comes  Windl  as  if  he  was  mad.** 

A  reference  to  the  calendar  will  show  that  the 
days  there  noted  for  the  first  two  of  these  were 
on  the  first  and  second  days  of  the  month.  Can 
any  of  your  readers  inform  me  who  "  Winell " 
was,  and  if  there  is  any  day  in  any  calendar, 
Romish  or  otherwise,  in  which  his  name  appears? 

H.  J.  H. 

[Winell  we  take  to  be  St  Winwaloc,  a  famous  British 
saint,  who  settled  in  Armorica.  His  death,  a.d.  482,  is 
commemorated  March  3,  following  those  of  SS.  David  and 

Chad.] 

THE    OSTRICH   FEATHERS   OF   THE   PRINCE 

OF  WALES. 

(4'»»  S.  ix.  138.) 

It  is  greatly  to  be  regretted  when  any  cor- 
respondent of  "N.  &  Q.,"  asldng  for  minute  in- 
formation, not  only  expresses  himself  inaccurately, 
but  makes  a  false  quotation.  T.  E.  S.  affirms 
that — 

**  It  is  stated  by  Planch^,  in  bis  British  CoMtume,  that 
Thomas  Mowbrav,  Duke  of  Norfolk,  wore— by  rijfht  of 
his  descent  from  fedward  I.  or  by  favour  of  Richard  II. — 
the  three  plumes  known  now  as  Prince  of  Walea's 
plumes." 

He  "wore  them,"- did  he P  as  a  lady  wears 
plumes  at  the  opera  P  or  a  horse  drawing  a 
mourning  coach P  If  by  so  many  '^plumes" 
T.  E.  S.  means  so  many  feathers,  he  uses  the 
term  in  reference  to  the  Prince  of  Wales  differ- 
ently to  the  general  acceptation ;  for  in  all  my 
experience  it  is  the  group  of  three  feathers  that 
has  been  usually  termed  the  Prince  of  Wales's 
plume  'y  and  though  the  original  sense  of  the  Latin 


222 


NOTES  AND   QUERIES.  L^***  S.  IX.  March  16.  72. 


plunuLia  a  BiD|]fle  feather,  yet  I  bt^lieve  any  under- 
taker will  tell  T.  E.  S.  that  he  underrttands  by  a 
plume  what  Richardson  in  his  Dictiotiary  defines 
as  "  a  collection  of  feathers." 

Though  it  was  obvious  at  once  that  T.  E.  S. 
must  have  misinterpreted  the  statement  of  Planch^, 
1  could  scarcely  nave  believed  that  he  had  so 
directly  misrepresented  it  until  I  found  the  pas- 
sape.  Instead  of  saying  that  the  Duke  of  Norfolk 
"  wore  the  three  plumes  now  known  as  the  Prince 
of  Wales's  plumes,"  what  Planch^  states  is  that 
^'Ithe  feathers  are  borne  sint/li/y" — he  might  have 
expressed  himself  better  by  writing — 

**  The  ostrich  feather  is  borne  singly  "  [but  lie  prints 
the  word  singly  in  italics]  **  by  not  only  all  the  brotliers 
and  descendants  of  Edward  [111.],  but  by  Thomas  de 
Mowbray,  Duke  of  Norfolk,  who  must  either  have  borne 
them  by  grant  from  Richard  II.,  or,  in  consequence  of  his 
descent  by  the  female  side,  from  Thomas  de  Brotherton, 
fiflh  son  0?  Edward  I. ;  and  how  ifl  this  to  be  reconciled 
with  the  tradition  of  Cressv  ?  "  (British  Costume^  1846, 
p.  142.) 

Without  entering  into  the  question  whether  the 
Duke  of  Norfolk  assumed  the  badge  by  any  right 
of  inheritance  or  no,  there  is  no  doubt  that  Planch^ 
is  quite  right  that  the  story  of  the  ostrich  feather 
'  having  been  derived  from  tlie  crest  of  John,  king 
of  Bohemia,  blain  at  Cressy,  is  perfectly  idle.  The 
crest  of  that  monarch  is  copied  from  his  seal  in  a 
woodcut,  and  described  by  PlanchiS  (p.  50)  as  an 
entire  wing  or  pinion  of  an  eagle  ;  and  I  myself, 
in  a  paper  in  the  Archaohguiy  xxix.  50,  had  pre- 
viously, in  1840,  more  exactly  described  it  as 
"  two  wings  of  a  vulture  besprinkled  with  linden 
leaves  of  gold,"  on  the  authority  of  Barante's 
History  of  the  Dukes  of  Burgundy ;  but  in  the 
same  paper  I  showed  that  Anne  of  Bohemia,  the 
Queen  of  Richard  II.  and  granddaughter  of  the 
same  king  of  Bohemia,  used  an  entire  ostrich  for 
her  badge,  and  that  therefore  there  might  still  be 
some  truth  that  the  ostrich  feather  referred  to 
Bohemia.  However,  in  the  form  which  is  now 
popularly  called  a  plume,  or  a  group  of  three 
leathers,  the  present  badge  of  the  Prince  of  Wales, 
it  does  not  occur  earlier  than  the  monument  of 
Prince  Arthur  in  Worcester  Cathedral  in  the 
reign  of  Henry  VII. 

For  a  long  period  the  ostrich  feather  was  borne 
single,  generally  with  its  quill  inserted  into  a 
scroll.  The  Black  Prince  indeed  has  three  ostrich 
feathers  on  his  *'  coat  of  peace,''  placed  on  his 
tomb  at  Canterbury,  but  they  are  not  grouped  as 
a  '*  plume."  They  are  arranged  "  two  and  one," 
as  customary  with  the  charges  of  an  armorial 
shield.  John  Goran  Nicuols. 


MILTON'S  USE  OF  THE  SUPERLATIVE. 
(4^  S.  ix.  90,  143.) 

As  both  Lord  Lyttelton  and  C.  A:  W.  have 
misapprehended  my  meaning,  it  is  evident  t 
I  have  not  expressed  myself  >         h 


said  it  seomod  that  Milton  had  '' unconsdoiuly^ 
adopted  the  simple  speech  of  childhood,"  I  meant^ 
no  more  than  that  Milton,  without  knowing  it^c 
had  niado,  use  of  a  construction  which  it  seemed^ 
to  me  might  well  have  originally  been  borrowed 
from  the  speech  of  childhood.    1  had  heard  on»  s 
child,  who  knew  nothing  but  English  and  hai^^ 
never  read  Milton,  use  this  construction,  and 
inferred,  naturally  enough,  that  it  was  a  conatrac^a 
tion  which  had  probably  already  found  favoc^a 
with  a  good  many  other  children,  and  was  likely*^-: 
find  favour  with  a  good  many  more ;  in  flaunt,  to.  ^ 
so  far  from  being  a  strained  and  artificial  CQnstm^-<! 
tion,  as  many  might  be  disposed  to  regard  it,  it  v^cu 
really  simple  and  childlike.    I  was  perfectly  w^V 
aware  that  the  construction  was  to  be  found   in  * 
Greek,  but  I  did  not  say  so,  because  my  obj^ic^ 
was  not  so  much  to  point  out  how  Milton  came  to 
use  it,  as  to  suggest  how  it  first  came  into  usa 
It  \a  no  cxpUmation  of  the  construction  to  vf 
Milton  borrowed  it  from  the  Greeks,*  becanw 
something  must  in  the  first  instance  have  led  the 
Greeks  themselves  to  adopt  it;  and  it  was  the 
ultimate  origin  of  the  idiom  which  I  particuladiy 
winhod  to  investigate. 

The  construction  has  its  origin  in  a  confiuiin 
of  thought,  or,  as  Mr.  Abbott  puts  it,  in  a  confii" 
8i(^n  of  two  constructions.t  Why  did  the  giri  of 
thirteen  say  *^  You^re  the  youngest  of  your  nstan- 
in-law,  mammal"?  Simply,  no  doubt,  bectose 
she  knew  that  her  mamma  was  the  youngvilaf 
the  three  ladies  whose  ages  she  was  comparing', 
and  did  not  sec  how  she  was  to  convey  her  metn- 
ing  excepting  by  the  use  of  a  superlative.  She 
did  not  realize  that  a  comparative  may  un- 
der certain  circumstances  be  equivalent  to  a 
superlative,  and  she  had  no  doubt  been  taagbL 
or  had  learned  by  observation,  that  a  compa- 
rative is  used  when  two  things  are  compand 
together,  and  a  superlative  when  more  than  tiva 
It  ought  to  have  occurred  to  her  that  her 


*  It  is  very  doubtful,  moreover,  whether  Milton  dU 
borrow  it  from  the  GreekB.  The  constmction  wm  pi^ 
bably  more  or  less  current  in  the  EngliA  of  hiii  time^  Ar 
Mr.  Abbott  in  bis  Shakeitpearian  Qrammar  (1869,  pi.  90 
quotes  two  examples  from  Shakespeare,  who  was  not  t 
classical  ^holar,  and  one  from  Bacon.  The  •*— "1^— 
from  Shakespeare  are — 

<*  This  is  the  greatest  error  of  all  the  rait  ** 

( Jf.  N.  2>.  T.  IX 
and— 

"  1  do  not  like  the  tower  of  any  place  *' 

ifik^  IIL  iiL  1. 66); 
and  the  example  from  Bacon  is — 

*'  Of  all  other  affections  it  is  the  mont  importrnM." 

iEiwya,**Eav7.* 

Mr.  Abbott  is  of  opinion  that  the  idiom  was  piobabllf  ail 
borrowed  from  the  Greek. 

t  Mr.  Abbott  (/oc.  cit.)remailu on** the (Ureit of  hff 

daughters,  Eve" :  <*The  line  is  a  oonfiuioa  of  two  al^ 

stmetiom,"  Eve  ftirer  ikm  all  her  ilanghtm  aaA  "IVI 

lU  women." 


4«»»  S.  IX.  Makch  16,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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*ould  not  possibly  be  one  of  her  own  sisters-in- 
law  ;  but  she  did  not  yee  this,  and  could  not  see  it, 
il though  I  at  once  explained  it  to  her.}  Some 
uonths  have  elapsed,  and  she  is  now  heyinnuuj  to 
iee  her  mistake,  but  she  is  uot  yet  quite  clear 
ibout  it. 

A  similar  confusion  of  thought  no  doubt  led  to 
Jie  introduction  of  the  idiom  among  the  Greeks, 
md  the  only  question  is — was  it  borrowed  from 
iheir  children,  or  did  it  originate  unconsciously 
)r  knowingly  among  the  adult  Greeks  ?  §  It  may 
certainly  have  originated  knowingly,  for  the  com- 
MuratiTe  may  well  have  been  felt  to  express  too 
ittle.  "  Fair^*  than  her  daughters,  Eve,''  would 
'eally  have  the  same  meaning  as  ^*  idXrest  of  her 
laughters,  Eve  "  ;  but  this  would,  I  think,  become 
ipparent  only  on  reflection,  and  the  iirst  impression  || 
70uld  be  that  the  superlative  expressed  far  more. 
rhe  Greeks  may,  therefore,  knowingly  have  re- 
ected  grammar  for  the  sake  of  getting  the  super- 
ative ;  but  I  expect  the  idiom  was  with  them 
dso,  in  the  first  mstance,  due  to  much  the  same 
inconscious  train  of  thought  which  I  have  repre- 
(ented  as  occurring  in  the  child  of  thirteen.  Some 
ID  doubt  were  conscious  of,  nay,  vividly  felt  the 
rregularity,  but  they  admired  it,  as  I  do,  and  will- 
ugly  conformed. 

As  for  Shakespeare's  "most  unmeet  of  any 
man,''  I  must  still  maintain  that  the  use  of  the 
superlative  is  irregular."  The  reason  why  it  does 
lot  strike  o^e  as  so  is  merely  that  most  of  any  is 
still  in  use  (see  §).  But  more  than  any  is  the 
itrictly  grammatical  form.  They  cannot  both  be 
:«galar. 

If  the  young  lady  did  not  err  against  grammar, 
Jien  neither  <ud  the  Greeks;  yet  C.  A.  \V.  him- 
lelf  speaks  of  the  "  ungrammatical  Greek  use  of 
:he  superlative."  C.  A.  W.'s  notion  of  grammar 
loes  not  agree  with  mine.  F.  Cua^^ce. 

Sydenham  Hill. 

X  C  A.  W.*8  remarks  upon  this  point  are,  therefore, 
Mfide  the  mark.  I  did  not  think  it  necessary  to  mention 
in  that  J  said  to  the  girl,  because  when  I  write  to 
•  N".  &,  Q."  I  endeavour  to  write  upon  the  principle  of 
}erimm  Mat  sapienti.  One  word  is,  however,  evidently 
rery  far  from  enough  for  C.  A  W. 

§  However  introduced,  it  would,  when  once  introduced, 
lo  doubt  soon  cease  to  strike  people  in  general  as  un- 
pvmmatical. 

II  And  the  great  majority  of  people  confine  themselves 
:o  first  impressions,  at  any  rate,  in  respect  to  points  of 
grammar.  And  this  was  probably  atill  more  the  case 
iritb  the  Greeks,  with  whom  grammar  was  not  the  science 
t  has  since  become,  than  with  us.  They  did  not  think 
ID  much  of  grammatical  rules  as  we  now  do,  and  a  viola- 
iim  of  them  was  consequently  less  felt  bv  them  than  by 
18.  Our  forefathers  of  the*  time  of  Shakespeare  and 
Milton  lesembled  the  Greeks  in  this  respect,  and  hence 
m^blv  the  not  inflrequent  coincidence  of  idiom  in 
JnA  and  Elizabethan  English.  — •  SSee  Abbott  (cp,  cii.), 
ip.  6^  M,  95, 96,  97. 


AMERICAN  CENTKN'AKIAXS. 
(4'»>  S.  ix.  40.) 

The  third  instance  of  centenariauism  among 
the  graduates  of  Harvard  College  is  that  of  Samp- 
son Salter  Blowers.  Here  again  we  have  to  deal 
with  the  case  of  a  man  placed  prominently  before 
the  community,  and  whose  personal  character  and 
intelligence  must  be  considered  as  negativing  any 
attempt  at  fraud  or  mistake. 

The  claim  is,  that  Sampson  Salter  Blowers  was 
born  at  Boston,  N.E.,  March  22, 1742,  and  died 
at  Halifax,  N.S.,  Oct.  25, 1842,  aged  one  hundred 
years,  seven  months,  and  three  days; 

I  find  in  the  Boston  town  records  of  marriages 
and  births,  which  I  have  carefullv  examined,  that 
John  Blowers  married  Sarah  Salter,  Nov.  27, 
17:56.  Their  children  are  recorded  as  follows : 
Sarah,  bom  September  3,  1736 ;  Martha,  bom 
December  19,  1738;  Emma,  bom  March  12, 
1740 ;  Sampson  Salter,  bom  March  10,  1741 ; 
Martha,  born  April  8,  1744. 

The  date  of  Sampson  Salter  is  the  old  style, 
1741-2,  and  1  presume  that  of  Emma  should  also 
be  1740-1.  This,  however,  is  not  an  invariable 
rule ;  for  though  the  legal  year  began  on  March26, 
great  irregularitv  was  shown  in  giving  the  year 
date  to  days  in  March.  In  this  case  it  is  conceded 
that  March  1741-2  is  meant  as  the  date  of  Mr. 
Blowers*  birth ;  and  the  later  year  of  course  lessens 
the  extent  of  his  life.  He  was  a  centenarian, 
however,  counting  the  year  as  1742. 

I  have  already  cited  the  next  proof  of  his  age — 
the  record  made  when  he  entered  college.  From 
that  date  he  becomes  a  recognised  member  of  t;he 
commimity,  and  the  records  of  his  class  identify 
him  throughout  his  life. 

In  March,  1842,  while  Mr.  Blowers  was  alive, 
an  article  was  published  in  the  Boston  Daily 
Advertiser  commencing  thus :  "  The  Hon.  Sampson 
Salter  Blowers  of  Halifax  (Harv.  IJn.  17«3)  this 
day  completes  his  century  of  years;  the  elder 
patriarch  of  Harvard's  living  alumni."  ^  This 
article  is  copied  in  George  A.  Ward's  edition  of 
the  Journal  and  Letters  of  Samud  Orirwen  (Boston, 
1864),  and  the  following  facts  are  mentioned : — 
Mr.  Blowers  studied  law  with  Gov.  Hutchinson, 
married  a  daughter  of  Benj.  Kent ;  was  junior 
counsel  in  behalf  of  the  eight  British  soldiers  tried 
in  November  1770  for  their  share  in  the  so-styled 
Boston  Massacre ;  went  to  England  in  1774,  re- 
turned in  1778  only  to  find  himself  proscribed  as 
a  refugee.  He  was  imprisoned  for  a  short  time, 
and  then  sent  in  a  cartel  to  Halifax ;  there  he 
pursued  his  profession,  was  raised  to  the  Supreme 
Bench  of  the  province  of  Nova  Scotia  in  1705, 
became  Chief  Justice  in  1801,  and  resigned  in 
1833. 

Some  things  mnst  be  taken  on  credit,  and  I 
presume  that  the  authority  of  the  newspapers  will 


224 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  [4*1.  s.  ix.  Maroh  ic.  72. 


be  sufliciont  to  fix  the  date  of  the  death  of  so 
well  known  a  gentleman  as  one  wlio  had  beon 
Chief  Justice  for  over  thirty  years.  I  have  thore- 
fore  not  thought  it  necessary  to  send  t)  Halifax 
for  a  formal  c<*rtificate  of  the' fact. 

As  a  piece  of  corn)borative  testimony,  showing 
that  others  have  approximated  the  age  of  one 
hundred  years,   I  quote  from  Mr.  "Ward's  hook, 

?i.  50iJ,  the  following  list  of  aged  graduates  of 
larvard : — 

CIhm  of  1712.  John  Nutting,  died  May  20, 1790,  aired 
9G  years  4  months. 

ClasM  of  1728.  Thaddcua  Maaon,  died  May  1,  1802, 
age«l  95  years  4  months. 

Class  1710.  Joseph  Adams,  died  May  2G,  1783,  ngcd 
94  years. 

Class  1741.  Joseph  Waldo,  died  April  181C,  ajjcd  94 
years. 

Class  1744.  Peter  Frye,  died  February  1,  1820,  a^ed 
97  years. 


to  produce  the  ever-changing  effects  of  "flying 
shaaows,"  ao  dear  to  artists.  My  companions,  a 
Kuonarroti,  aMattucci — full  of  mirth  and  humour. 
The  cordi.il  reci*ptinii  wy  met  with  from  tho 
worthy  father.*",  who  pressed  us  to  stav  a  few  dajs 
with  them,  wa.4,  if  not  *'ricca  e  Sella,**  as  in 
Ariosto's  time,  at  lea^^t  — 

*'  ne  men  relipasa      , 
E  cortcse  a  rhiunquu  vi  viena.** 

I  recollect  the  excellent  Queen  Julie  (Countes»» 

de  Survilliers),  to  whom,  on  my  return  to  Florenc**, 

I  imparted  my  pleasing  sensations  when  among 

these  good  fatners,  m  Rogers  says  — 

*'  From  their  retreats,  calmly  contemplating 
The  changes  of  the  earth,  thuin^elves  unchanged,** 

saying  to  me  she,  too,  never  had  felt  happier  in 
her  life  than  during  the  short  stay  she  made  iii 
one  of  the  outhoust^s  of  the  iLispice  (women  not 


98  years  10  months. 

I  select  this  list  because  the  persons  named 
were  educated  men  well  known  and  easily  traced. 
1  suppose,  liowever,  it  will  be  conceded  that 
numerous  cases  are  on  record  and  well  substan- 
tiated of  persons  reaching  the  ag«»  of  ninety  years 
and  upwards.  Such  facts  seem  to  havt)  a  direct 
bearing  on  the  question  of  centenarianism,  since 
if  we  prove  that  there  is'no  limit  between  infancy 
and  ninety-nine  years,  what  reason  can  be  urged 
to  preclude  one  hundred  years  as  a  possible  age  ? 
We  are  confessedly  watching  the  expiring  pulsa- 
tions' of  the  wave,  but  why  fix  in  advance  the 
limit  at  an  arbitrary  line  ?     *\V.  H.  Whitmore. 

Boston,  U.S.A. 


OF 


BIRTHPLACE   OP  PLAIJTUS   AND  TEMPLE 
JCPITEU  APENNINUS. 

(4»»»  S.  ix.  158.) 

Ilesiding  at  Florence  in  the  autumn  of  1837, 1 
had  the  good  fortune  to  become  acquainted  with 
three  very  amiable  Toscans,  who,  wishing  I  should 
carry  away  with  m«  the  most  favourable  impres- 
sion of  their  beautiful  country,  kindly  asked  me 
to  form  a  partie  cnrree  with  them  to  visit  I  Scali 
and  the  celebrated  Ciimaldoli,  sung  bv  Ariosto  and 
Mr.  Craufuri)  Tait  Kamaoe.    Tfiey  promised 
me  as  stupendous  a  landscape  as  ever  I  could 
behold — and  they  spoke  truly.     I  thought  at  the 
time  that,  when  the  Evil  One  took  our  Saviour  up 
into  the  mountiin  and  offered  him  all  the  goods  of 
the  earth  if  he  would  fall  down  and  worship  him, 
the  view  could  not  have  been  more  tempting. 
Our  arrival  at  the  Camaldoli  had  been  announced 
a  few  days  beforehand.    Mules  had  been  ordered 
for  U8  halfway.    The  sky  was  sufficiently^  clouded 


My  friend  Paul  De  la  lloche  had  also  spent 
some  time  there,  and  spoke  to  me  in  most  xwp- 
turous  terms  of  the  grand  and  picturesque  scenery 
of  the  Apennines :  so  th:it  I  was  happy  to  im- 
prove the  opportunity  of  visiting  them,  and  I 
Drought  bscK,  umon;;st  other  souvenirs  of  thia 
very  pleasant  excursion,  the  pourtraiditre  of  six 
of  the  monks — the  venerable  superior  of  whom, 
with  his  snow-white  beard,  I  recognised  as  the 
one  in  Uobert  Fleury's  well-known  picture,  "  Ca- 
maldoli attacked  and  nmsomcd  bv  brigands.'' 

P.  A.  L. 

THREE  LEAVES  EATEN  FOR  THE  HOLY 
SACRAMF-XT. 

(4»'»  S.  ix.  31>.) 

"  Many  a  fi^ntle  knight  takes  the  Sacrament  with  three 
bit«  of  g'rosp,  for  other  priej<t  is  none." 

I  have  waited  in  hopes  that  some  one  would 
answer  Mr.  Fishwick*s  inquiry  concerning  this 
interesting  mediieval  belief  (not  superstition),  as 
I  venture  to  call  it.  I  was  so  ignorant  of  sucti  a 
custom  that  the  following  passage  always  puizled 
me,  and  I  only  now  revive  the  subject  because  no 
one  more  competent  has  taken  it  up. 

When  Benvenuto  Cellini  was  directing  the  fire 
of  the  artillery  from  the  Castle  of  St  Angelo 
during  the  siege  of  Kome  by  the  army  of  the  Con- 
stable de  Bourbon,  he  was  struck  down  by  the 
fall  of  some  masonry,  and  was  thought  to  be 
killed.  lie  was,  however,  revived  by  Greek  wine 
and  wormwood ;  and  ho  goes  on  to  say — 

*'  I  made  an  attempt  to  speak,  but  foand  myadf  nnaUe 
to  articulate,  because  some  foolish  soldiers  had  filled  my 


*  Lately  mentioned  in  the  Jountdde*.  Debnh  hi 
neotion   with   Leopold   Robert  and  his   Pitkmn  dm 
VAdricUiqme, 


LSUEcnifi,'::.]  NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


p.«0. 


L/Bf-m 


«.\,r\\.m 


at  wonderrul  tliHt  a  uiaii  of  CiOlini's  uliit- 
ould  spealt  of  thin  "  siiuerstilinu '"  in  tlic 
did ;  but  I  would  rathtr  o>imt'(;t  with 
hin^  custniQ — bringing  baforo  our  niinUa, 
8,  solitary  duatbs  upon  tbe  blood-alidni'd 
:h3  aniitf  tbo  wild  njrony  of  thu  ctriekeu 
ended  nnd  unblessud  by  wifo  or  friinul — 
utiful  y^QiAn  fntm  tlie  I'Vayi'i^bouk,  wbic-h 
-ays  i^truck  nid  aa  brtMitliin^  nt  thu  ^nruo 
most  esidted  laiLTiimnntHlisni  and  tliu 
lolic  pity  and  toluraucu: — 

>  man  vither  by  extnnnicy  of  sicknp.»  .... 

of  cumiiany  ....  do  not  rawivc  lliH  Sairrn- 
e  do  tTutv  repent  liim  cif  Ills  dcf.  nnil  Htcii'l- 
ive  that  Jetus  Christ  hath  suBLTCrl  ilralh  u|Hin 
irblm KiTJDK  him  hi^rtir  thank*  there- 

bfl  duth  irat  and  drink  tliu  Itoily  and  UlwHt 
prufitalilv  to  lii'i  aunl'it  henlth,  though  he  Jn  nut 
9  Sacramtnt  willi  hia  m.iutli."— flB'.rte  to  the 
!Ac  atmmu,u,-n  of  the  Slch. 
d  like  to  siijijrest  this  "siiperatition"  as 
ct  of  a  poem  to  the  Vicar  of  Morwon- 


3  Boinctbing  wry  sitnkin<;  in  Iho  cxprcFi- 
e  old  romnnw,  "  for  Mer  priest  is  none,' 
li  every  cwntnre,  '■vmj  a  bladu  of  jrrnsa 
come  a  Hacrauient  and  a  prii^st  to  lb< 
Ood.  J.  IIksky  SuoBTtfotraB. 


WY  (4"'  R.  ix.  l:iri,  188.)— MiM  Yonge, 
ceWiiOi  Uiftiiri/  of  Chridian  XaiiieK,  sava, 
J  in  one  of  the  unaccountably  feminine 
-mes."  (See  vol.  ii.  p.  JS2.) 

Thk  Author  of  "On  the  Edge 

TURo  kindly  aupplcment  hia  information 
■  me  some  knowledge  of  "  the  famous 
/elsh  beauty  "  ?  JIakrocueiu. 

DBFBI  Peat  (4"-  S.  i.i.  TO.)— The  Rev. 
t  Peat  was  a  member  of  the  Order  of  S, 
lerusidcm  In  EtiKls'id.  By  tbn  prewiit 
f  the  English  brunch  of  the  order  a  per- 
ly  orders  can  only  belong  to  the  class  of 
The  present  prior  or  master  is  a  lay- 
Duke  of  Manchester.  O.  S.  J.  J. 

rectlcMi  from  Tuot  to  Pent  wm  noted  on  Feb.  3.] 
:  (4'"  S.  i.\.  Kil.)— Tbo  explanations 
reply  to  my  i^uery  a^  In  the  meaning  of 
really  explain  nolliing.  Tho  word 
rely  be  "  a  corrnplion  of  Snnyue-lac,  the 
Hood,"  for  this  is  not  the  way  in  which 
1  compounded  in  Fnoich.  I^c  de  Sang 
nguine  might  do,. but  not  ■VH>t^-?«r.  In 
languages  we  might  say  "Blood-lake," 
I,"  "Blut-meer,"  but  this  is  not  the 


Irtui^h  furni ;  nnd  tli^ui  tliere  is  not,  and,  I  pre- 
sume, never  was  utiy  lake  near  Ilaatiug^.  "Mr. 
Lower,"  it  seems,  "sjHdU  the  word  Santlmhe,  from 
thu  ruduesa  of  the  water  here,  as  caused  by  the 
oxidation  of  thu  iron,"  &c.  What  can  Santlacke, 
if  there  be  such  a  worJ,  have  to  do  with  "  red- 
neas."  Mr.  Freeman  says  Senlac  was  the  name  ot 
"  the  kill  on  which  Harold  encamped."  If  so,  that 
altogether  diKposes  of  the  lake.  I  have  not  access 
toOrdcricua  Vitalis,  and  flhould  be  thankful  for 
quotations  from  his  original,  showing  the  way  in 
which  he  uses  the  word  Senlac.  "Is  it,"  I  asked, 
"  n  c>irruption  of  any  genuine  Sazon  word  P " 
■Surely  it  is  in  tliat  language  one  would  look  for 
the  name  of  a  locality  in  Sussex.  J. 

I  have  ventured  to  think  that  possibly  this  name 
deBignated  a  holy  well  wbtch  ia  mentioned  aa 
being  in  Battle  Park  in  tbe  sixteenth  century.  It 
appears  also  aa  Sondlake,  Seynlak,  Seynlac,  and 
Sangtake,  Santlache — all  corruptions  of  Sainttac 
or  lIolywelL  (See  my  Battie  Abbet/,  p.  07.)  It 
was  near  the  monk's  infirmary  (p.  09). 

Mackrskie  Walcoit,  B.D.,  F.S.A. 

RcoRiw  (4"^  S.  is.  101.)— The  lanes  or  alleys 
referred  to  by  your  correspondent  are,  I  presume, 
similar  to  those  which  at  regular  intervals  inter- 
sect the  masses  of  building  occupying  the  space 
between  one  of  the  principal  streets  of  Great  Yar- 
mouth and  tbe  thoroughfare  hounded  on  one  side 
by  tbe  river.  The  Yarmouth  lanea,  which-are  very 
narrow  jind  apparently  of  one  uniform  breadth, 
are,  I  believe,  alao  called  "  scores."  The  term 
"  score  "  or  "  acor  "  is  the  Old  Norae  skdr,  a  cleft, 
an  opening,  a  small  chasm.  Norfolk  ia  one  of  the 
counties  specially  mentioned  by  Mr.  Worsaae  as 
peopled  by  the  Northmen.  I  do  not  think  those 
opeoinga  can  bave  anything^  to  do  with  "  clefts  or 
fissures  in  the  clilT,"  £c.  The  word,  aa  I  believe, 
applies  equally  to  artificial  as  to  natural  fissures. 
Bilbo. 

The  Devil's  NtrTiiMO  Dir  (4"  S.  ix.  67, 166.) 
William  Bo wakin,  an  old  man  resident  atOwmby, 
nciir  Spital,  Lincolnshire,  about  half  a  century 
ago,  used  to  say  that  nutters  on  "  Hally  Loo  Day 
(t^ep.  14)  were  certain  to  come  to  grief  of  some 
kind,  but  I  cannot  ascertain  that  he  expected  the 
particular  interview  referred  to  by  your  corre- 
spondents. J.  T.  F. 

Hatfi<.'ld  Hall,  Durham. 

Dr..  It.  n.  Black  and  J&ues  Blaoe  (4'^  S. 
lii.  jiiktim ;  ii.  58,  110.) — I  and  the  few  lemmn- 
:g  of  my  friends  who  knew  the  aboTe-named 
gentlen.en  have  never  doubted  that  they  were 
Scotchmen,  as  were  many  other  officers  of  the 
London  Slecbanic'a  Inatitute  in  the  early  years 
of  its  existence.     Dr.  Birkbeck,  its  founder  and 

Ercsiden::,  was  of  a  Yorkshire  family;  but  in  182S 
e  bad  recently  come  to  London  from  Glasgow, 
where,  while  n  professor  at  its  univenity,  he  had 


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[4t*S.  IX.  Mauch   6, '72. 


also  just  established  a  Mechanic's  Institute — t^ie 
lirst  in  the  United  Kinji:ilom  and  the  world.  Then 
Henry  Broui^huni  was  :\  trust tM*.  ot'  the  London 
Mechanic's  Institute,  and  a  Scotchman;  Dr.  Gil- 
christ and  Mr.  M*\Villiiim,  twt)  of  its  vice-presi- 
dents, were  Scotchnier. ;  so  als<^  wore  Messrs. 
Flather,  Christie,  and  Macfarlane,  its  first  secre- 
taries, successively ;  and  so,  as  1  stale  my  belief, 
were  its  first  teachers  of  its  first  classes,  the  Mes.srs. 
Black.  James  had,  sothe  time  pn-viously,  been 
an  officer  in  the  army,  and  so  probably  the  family 
could  be  traced.  Joskph  Thomas. 

The  Green,  Stratford,  E. 

Novelists'  Flowers  (4***  S.  viii.  549;  ix.  85, 
1.1^.)  __ The  followinfjT,  from  pp.  2:58,  l>:«)  of  A 
Volume  (^  Letters  from  Dr,  BerkenhoiU  to  his  JSitn 
at  tite  Lniversityj  CamhriihfC^  mdccxc,  may  also 
bo  acceptable  to  Mb.  Bkitten  :  — 

**  On  the  opi>()sitc  side  uf  that  ditch,  yoa  sec  a  yclloi^' 
flower  .  .  .  .  It  ift  the  Caltha  paltutriSf  the  only  Kpeci«-8 
of  that  genus  hitherto  found  in  any  part  of  the  world. 
You  will  find  them  in  almost  every  swamp,  and  pur(i«'u- 
larly  in  ver^'  f^reat  abundance  on  the  mora.»»s  at  the  back 
of  Peter  House.  I  supinxse  Thomson  meant  this  water- 
lily  in  these  lines :  — 

*  See  how  the  lilv  drinks 
The  latent  rill,  seanv  oozing  thro*  the  grass ; 
Of  growth  luxuriant,  or  the  humid  bank 
In  Fair  proportion  decks.'  '* 

J.  Bealk. 

May  I  very  briefly  state  my  objections  to  Mr. 
Stephen  Jackson's  solution  of  my  difiicultiesh' 

1.  No  Lilium  is  found  in  England  in  '*  marshy 
or  ill-drained  meadows,**  neither  is  the  wild  tulip ; 
nor  do  daflbdils  usually  aflect  such  habitats. 

2.  "  The  cuckoo  flower  [par  excelUtire']  of  our 
children  and  our  peasants,*'  is  Cardamine  pratenm. 
Lychnis  flos-cuculi  is  usually  pinky  and  rarely 
found  in  gardens.  Slia]«peare*8  *' cuckoo-buds  of 
yellow  hue  *'  are  probably  some  Ranunculus,  None 
of  these  throw  any  light  upon  my  query  as  to  the 
"  tall  white  lychnideas.^^ 

3.  'So  juncus  is  called  "bulrush**;  and  neither 
of  the  plants  bearing  that  name  would  grow  "  in 

afield.*'^ 

I  make  these  remarks  having  beside  me  in  MS. 
probably  tho  largest  collection  of  English  plant- 
names  ever  brought  together,  which  I  wish  to 
make  yet  more  complete  before  publication,  and 
to  which  contributions  *  are  invited. 

James  Britten. 

British  Museum. 

"Manure'*  (4***  S.  viii.  passim;  ix.  25.) — The 
discussion  on  this  word  shows  the  importance  of 
studying  our  patois  as  aids  in  the  determination 
of  philological  problems.  In  the  northern  dis- 
tricts of  England  the  word  is  invariably  pro- 
nounced manner y  and  there  is  little  doubt  that 
this  is  the  true  original  pronunciation.    In  the 


conversion  of  Norman  words  into  English  certain 
processes  W'ere  gone  through,  one  of  which  is  well 
exeui])litied  in  the  histi)ry  of  mttnure.    The  old 
French  manoeuvre  (pronounced  mdnodor)  was  first 
changed  to  manure  (pronounced  mdnodr),  but  in 
order  to  make  its  conversion  complete  it  was 
nec(^ssarv  to  give  it  the  English  accent.     The 
eflcH^t  of  the  new  accentuation  was  to  take  the 
stress  entirelv  off  the  last  svllable,  the  vowel  soond 
of  which  thereupon  Ix^came  at  once  obscure^  just 
as  Fr.  honour  has  become  Eng.  hAnowr  ^  &imer, 
Mamire  =  maiioor    thus  became  mdnner.      The 
analogy  insisted  on   is  confirmed  by  oumeroua 
other  instances.    Thus  we  finol  in  Northern  pattus 
Idhher^fdwerysdwei;  representing,  as  I  believe,  the 
ancient  English  pronunciation  of  the  naturauied 
]'>ench  words  lab^tur,  favdur^  sav6ur,  j  ust  aa  maUn^ 
nuinere^  rivere,  hanere,  batailey  bardinej  are  reue- 
sented  by  the  English  mdtterj  mdnner,rivver^ian9er^ 
hdnnet'y  battel  or  bdftlej  barren.     In  the  same  wi^ 
auenture  (pronounced   aventdor)  became   Kng^*" 
aventiT    (cf.    Shakspere's    venter  for   ventur^^  Of 
auntiTj  which  is  still  heard  in  Yorkshire.    The 
modern  pronunciation  of  the  -ivre  in  adoeiUMre  (t 
word  never  found  with  d  in  old  French)  is  an  in- 
dependent development  of  the  sound  of  ure,  dating 
from  the  seventeenth  century,  and,  therefore, throw- 
ing no  light  upon  the  point,  which,  however,  may 
be  proved  not  only  by  the  patois,  as  above,  bat 
by  quotations  from  our  early  English  wiiten^  as 
v.y.  from  Wiclif,  who  writes  ^^er,  fiofar,  Ac, 
as  well  as  from  Shakspere,  whose  mirier,  fkUr, 
vulter,  JoynttTj  &c.,  are  well  known;  but  apace  for- 
bids.    I  may  add  that  Mr.  Eable*s  ^Mwt^ 
between  the  noun  and  the  verb  is  unknown  in 
patois.  J.  pATVBi 

Kililare  Gardens. 

Archbishop  IkA.CKBURNE  (4**  S.  iz.  ISft)—  - 
In  answer  to  B.  W.,  I  send  the  names  of  aUpiff-  * 
sons  mentioned  in  tho  will  of  Archbiahop  Kadr-  '— 
burno.  Will  signed  August  26, 1737 ;  first  oodkiLfl 


[*  To  be  sent  direct  to  Mic.  Brittkn.] 


York  (executor  named  in  will),  and  Rev.  Ji 
Atwell,  D.D.,  executor  named  in  second  oodicit 

"  Imprimis,  it  is  my  desire  that  my  bo^y  nV 
buried  iu  the  parish  church  of  Saint  Maiganti  W( 
minster,  so  near  as  may  be  to  the  remains  of  nj' 
dear  wife  Catherine,  the  eldest  sister  to  my  lidts  < 
brother-in-law,  doctor  William  Talbott,  late  bUiop 
Durham." 

Persons  mentioned  in  the  will: — Mrs.  Jkao/Oi^ 
Cruwys,  spinster;  Rev.  Thomas  Hayter;  Hoa- 
Sir  Charles  Wjiger;  Henry  Cruwys,  Esq.;  Dr*  J 
i Richard  0>baldiston,  Dean  of  York;  Dr.  UillNiW  .  j 
Dean  of  Exeter;  Rev.  Mr.  Fumnan;  Di,  JafMi  | 
Sterne,  Archdeacon  of  N.  R.,  oo.  YoA|  Us  (3Mf-  I 
lain;  Edward Ilulse,  M.D.;  William  LoidlUWi  1 
Baron  of  Hensel ;  Hon.  John  Tidbot ;  Hon.  Qt/Mg^  m 


4*s.ix.irARcnic,'72.]  KOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


celot  Billin^Q ;  hia  godsan  Mr.  Kobert  Oibaou, 
aon  of  the  Buhop  of  LondoD ;  hU  godson  Mr.  John 
Bulteet,  and  his  elder  brother  Mr.  James  Bulteel ; 
Hon.  Edward  TruUwny,  son  of  the  late  Biehop  of 
Wiochelter ;  John  Turner,  Bon  of  John  Turner  of 
London,  physician;  Hon.  Mi.  Baron  Fortcscue; 
Dr.Bett«8worth,  Dean  of  the  Arches;  Hon.  Chnrtes 
Stanhope ;  James  Bulteel,  the  elder ;  Arthur  Stert, 
Esq. ;  Mftrtin,  Bishop  of  Gloucester ;  Dr.  Andrew, 
chancellor  of  the  diocesa  of  London ;  wife  of  Rev. 
Qeoi^  Amet,  vicar  of  Wakefield,  co.  York ;  wife 
of  Rot,  Thomas  Billington  of  Eieter  — "both 
the  said  wifea  being  descendants  of  the  Rev.  Mr. 
Whycbe,  sometime  rector  of  Sutton,  co.  Surrey." 
"  And  >1I  inT  letlera  of  private  correspocilence,  whethtr 
of  1117  own  huidwritiDg  or  of  any  oEbcr  pen  on*,  which 
bear  no  nlitioa  to  mj'  estate,  and  all  mj 


His  serranta  b;  name ;  and  his  residuarj  legatees, 
John  Talbot,  Qeorge  Talbot,  and  Kev.  Thomas 
Haytei. 

His  vife,  if  I  mistake  not,  was  first  married  to 
a  LitteltoQ.  G.  J.  H. 

"  LiKB  THB  SuNST  Side,"  btc.  (4*  S.  ix.  181.) 

tps  G.  K.  is  thinking  of  the  lin 

mg'a  ballad  upon  a  wedding :  - 

"  For  atreaks  or  reil  were  mingled  th 

Such  as  are  on  a  Catherioe  peir. 

The  aide  that's  t   - - 


ment  that  mj  opinion  is  correct.  If  there  b«  any 
difference,  perhaps,  of  the  three,  ash-wood  iniitea 
the  readiest.  Edvukd  Tew,  M.A. 

Thomas  Batbman,  M.D.  (4^^  8.  ix.  150.>  — 
The  author  of  the  Life  of  Dr.  BaUnum  was  hia 
brothe>in-law,  Ih.  James  Rumsej,  who  practised 
for  man;  years  at  Aniersham,  but  spent  the  tut 

fears  of  his  life  at  Clifton,  Bristol.  He  receivM 
is  M.D.  degree  from  the  Archbishop  of  Canter- 
bury, and  he  well  deservod  it,  for  he  was  a  skilful 
practitioner  and  a  truly  ^ood  man.  J.  D. 

llBROB  OR  Hbrhb  {4'"  S.  viii.  517;  ix.  46, 
129,  189.)— In  the  Ma„ipatiu  Vocabrilarum,  by 
Peter  Levins  (1670)  published  by  the  E.  E.  T.  S.. 
I  this  word  is  given  as   Urriie.     In  the   Midland 


The  Reform  Club. 


E.  Yakdlet. 


Obobgi!  WATSos-TiYMK,  M.P.  (4"'  S.  ix.  Ifil.i 
I  observe  a  request  from  a  correspondent  for  in- 
formation as  to  my  late  father,  Mr.  Watson- 
Taylor.  I  beg  in  reply  to  say,  that  one  of  the 
drMuas  therein  alluded  to  ( The  Prqfiigaie)  was 
printed  at  the  Shakspeare  Press  by  W.  Bulmer 
•od  W.  Nicol,  1820,  and  that  Eqiiammifif  in  Death 
is  included  in  the  edition  of  my  father's  poems 
privately  printed  at  Chiswick,  1830.  The  state- 
ment in  tiie  BioffTaphia  Dramntica  is  incorrect: 
my  father  never  held  any  appointment  whatever 
nther  in  the  East  or  West  Indies.  I  am  not 
aware  of  any  biographic  notice  of  him.  My  father 
died  on  June  6,  1341,  at  No.  10,  Cariton  Place, 
aoyr  Carlton  Terrace,  Eklluburjrh ;  and  in  conclu- 
•ion  I  may  state,  any  information  desired  by  your 
correspondent  R.  I.nglis  will  be  gladly  (riven  by 
me.  Emilics  Watsos-Taylor. 

Tha  Manor  House,  Beadinglon,  Oxfurcl. 

Abhbn  Faooot  (4"-  S.  riii.  047;  xi.  87, 160.) 
It  is  quite  true  that  the  ash  and  the  laurel  will 
bum  equally  well  when  fpreen.  hut  it  ia  no  less 
true  that  apple-tree  wood  will. bum  as  well  as 
dther  in  the  same  state.  Not  to  be  mistaken,  or 
tomialead  the  rsadera  of  "N.  &  Q."I  have  tested 
>11  three  Iduda  this  day,  and  find  from  tho  experi- 


ScALBs  aud  Wbiosts  (4>^  S.  vtii.  372, 463 ;  ix. 
83,  166.) — Your  correspondents  appear  to  have 
overlooked  the  fact  that  foreign  and  eipedally 
Portuguese  gold  coins  were  commonly  correot 
both  in  England  and  Ireland  during  a  great  part 
of  the  last  centuiy.  Ruding,'in  hia  Aimali  ojthe 
Coinagt  (vol.  i.  p.  00),  observes  — 

"  For  ■  long  time  the  balnnce  or  trade  with  Portogal 
■was  10  much  in  favonr  of  this  conntiy  that  immenM 
qoantiliea  of  the  coim  of  [hat  country-  were  annuatlv 
tiroueht  over.  These  were  permitted  to  be  camni,  and 
were  circulated  all  over  England,  but  more  upeciaUv  in 
the  western  counties,  where,  about  Che  beginning  otthe 
eiebteenth  century,  very  little  of  any  other  gold  money 
was  to  be  found.  Since  tfaeee  wen  withdrawn,  which 
happened  shortly  after  the  middle  of  tbe  same  centniy,  no 
' ley  has  been  corrent,  except  small  qnaotities 


le  lati 


th  silver,  which  were  surreptitiously  brought  in 


Inry  on  account  of  t 


ie4Mi- 


mc-y  of  legal  coi 

Although  payments  wore  often  made  in  England 
in  Portuguese  "  moidoree,"  as  the  commonest  size 
of  the  gold  coins  of  Portugal  was  called  by  a  cor- 
ruption of  the  Portuguese  words  tnoeda  da  ouro,  I 
am  not  aw^re  that  any  foreign  gold  coins  had  a 
value  legally  fixed  upon  them.  But  in  Ireland 
there  were  royal  pmclamntions  fixing  tbe  rates  at 
which  certain  foreign  coins  of  gold  or  nlver  were 
to  pass  current.  A proclimatiou  issued  at  Dublin 
on  September  10,  1737.  £  les  tbe  current  value  in 
Irish  moni^y  of  the  guin>  a  and  half-guinea,  the 
moidore  and  its  parts,  Spa  lish  and  French  pistoles 
and  their  multiples  and  parts,  the  Frencn  touin 
if  or  and  its  parts,  and  "  tie  piece  of  new  gold  coin 
of  Portugal,  with  "its  h:  If^quarter,  half  quarter, 
and  sixteenth  in  proportion."  Your  correspondent 
F.  C.  H.'s  weight  of  .'i;.  12^  is,  I  believe,  the 
weight  of  the  Portuguese  dobrdo,  "  the  piece  of 
new  gold  coin  of  Portugal."  That  coin  was  to  ^ 
weigh  18dwt.  10^  gr.,  and  was  to  pass  for  fl 
3(.  17».  Sil.  Irish  currency,  according  to  thn  \itti- 
clamation  of  1737.  F.  CIV*  ^b\^W  (\Kniyfc. 
38s,,  18*.,  Ds,,  ani  4«.  W.  w*  Wow  ot  'i.'**  '^\di\. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4»»>  S.  IX.  MAnea  16, 72. 


quarter,  half-quarter,  and  sixteenth.'*  As  loroiLni 
gold  coins  were  so  commonly  tendered  in  payment, 
traders  kept  weights  and  scales  for  weighinj;  the 
ordinary  kinds  in  the  same  way  that  tht;y  some- 
times now  keep  sovereign  weights.     F.  C.  11. *s 


box  contains  gumea  weights  marked  respectively 
6  dwt.  8  gr.  and  6  dwt.  ($  gr.,  because  in  j)ursuanco 
of  a  statute  passed  in  1773 
"better  preventing  the  countert'eitin 
and  other  diminishing  the  coin  of  this  kingdom, 
the  Commissioners  of  the  Treasury  ordered  in 
that  year  that  the  revenue  officers  should  bn^ak 
and  deface  all  gold  coins  tendered  to  them  if  the 
guineas  coined  before  the  accession  of  George  III. 
did  not  weigh  at  least  5  dwt.  li  gr.,  those  coined 
by  George  III.  before  1772  at  least  5  dwt.  0  gr., 
and  those  coined  after  that  date  at  least  5  dwt. 
8  gr.,  with  the  half-guineas  in  proportion.  This 
explanation  will  perhaps  show  more  fully  to 
F.  C.  H.  the  purpose  for  which  the  weiglita  in  his 
possession  were  intended.  H.  1). 

Manchester. 

^-Atred"  (4***  S.  ix.  172.)— An  editorial  rom.ark 


Col.  AiiCJiiiiALD  Strachan  (4'"  S.  ix.  173.) — 

The  Journuh  of  the  Hume  of  Comynons  (iv.  156) 

contain   tlie  following   memorandum,    which,    1 

think,  relates  to  this  person:  — 

"  May  'J9.  KMf) Orderctl,  that  Major  Archibald 

Str.iutjllan  be  forthwith  sent  for  in  safe  ciustody." 

Tliore  is  no  other  entry  in  the  index  relating  to 
\  for  the  puri)oso  of  Archibald  Straughan,  but  there  are  several  con- 
iterfeiting,   clipping,     corning  Captain  .lohn  Strachan.    The  index  to  the 


Journals  is,  however,  very  imperfect,  though  ac- 
curate as  far  as  it  goes.  Edward  Peacock. 

"  Aui:  Yoi:  THERE  WITH  TOUR  Beabs  ?  "  {4^  8. 
ix.  137.) — The  bear  proves  a  tough  customer,  and 
is  always  showing  light.  There  was  early  in 
^^  N.  &  Q.*'  a  discussion  about  the  origin  of  the 
animal  on  the  Stock  Exchange,  and  it  was  shown 
to  have  more  to  do  with  South  Sea  affairs  than 
with  the  wild  hyperborean  regions  from  which 
the  real  creature  generally  comes  to  us.  But  that 
tlio  fictive  fancy  of  tlie  Stock  Exchange  at  that 
perio«l  had  every  chance  to  form  such  a  simile, 
and  to  couple  bear  and  bull  in  their  exclusive  slangi 
may  be  supposed,  as  the  following  record 


j^ .    ._.  ^ m  one 

in  your  *'  Notices  to  Correspondents  "  siM-nis  to  irall     ^^  {\^q  papers  of  1 7:^1  evinces : 

for  some  kind  of  emendation ;  and  this  if  you  will  ;      .,  ^,,j^  ^.^^^^^  ^j,^^,  tho"njen  who  usually  lead  a  buU  and i 
allow  me,  I  desire  to  place  upon  record.  ,  bear  thro*  the  City  every  Monday  to  the  Bear  Gardeoia 

The  term  airvd^  though  not  limited  to  the  ,  Hockley  in  the  ifole  for  the divcVsion  of  idle  mechanieb 
Caledonian  side  of  the  Border,  is,  or  certainly  was,  1  wero  appn^heudod  and  carried  b«*forethe  right  hononrtbii 
not  unknown  in  the  vernacular  of  the  Scottish  \  ^}^}^':':^^  ^}'^^'''lJ^^'l:^'i'^^''^}^  ^u!™.^-  ?ji??^ 
Lowlands.  Eared ,  ared  ( I  am  not  perfectly  cer- 
tain as  to  the  orthography),  means  exhausted  or 
emptied  of  moisture.  Newly  washed  clotlu'S  sub- 
jected to  the  smoothing-iron,  or  wbljh  have  botMi 
passed  through  a  mangle,  are  placed  before  a  i 
strong  fire  to  permit  the  escape  of  damp,  which  is  ] 
drawn  out  in  the  form  of  vap«>ur.  The  word,  as  | 
I  believe,  is  identical  with  the  lc«;lnndic  tirrj/dd 
((ireyddr),  empty,  exhausted.  Airdj  in  the  sense 
hero  given,  and  alfo  in  the  fj>rni  (»f  nrd,  obtains  in 
Cumberland  and  in  other  parts  of  the  north  of 
England,  and  is  evidently  one  and  the  same  with 
the  ordinary  Knglisli  word  arid^  dry,  parched, 
applied  to  the  quality  of  a  soil.  Neither  eared 
nor  ardj  nor  any  other  form  of  this  word  is  yiven 
by  Jamieson;  at  least  I  do  not  find  it  in  Joini- 
stone's  Abruif/ment.  Bailey  and  Johnson  have 
the  verb  '*  to  aiW*    The  latter  derives  this  IVnm 


the  noun  air,  the  atmosphere;  perhaps  originating 
in  some  misconception  as  to  its  actuiil  si^iiiitieance. 
Eared,  or  ared,  sci'ms  probably  related  to  the 
obsolete  English  word  ear,  are  (fiothic  aria, 
Icel.  aera),  to  ph)ugh  or  fallow  the  gnMind  ;  and 
to  another  English  word,  arrfi/,  to  rxhale  uinistun^ 
The  term  arid  is  usually  dorivt'd  from  l-'roiuli 
aridoj  Italian  and  S])nnish  arido.  Wliat,  howovrr, 
Mr.  Ficton  remarks  in  regard  to  Italian  is  (^;|uii!ly 
true  of  the  others,  namely,  that  in  all  tlie-e  dia- 
lects is  contained*' a  larger  infu>ii)n  of  Teut»ijiic 
influence  than  is  generally  supposed." 

J.  Ck.  II. 


vaj^rants,  and  sent  the  hull  and  the  bear  to  the  GiMS 

Yard." 

Now  if  this  spectacle  was  exhibited  ev«iT 
Monday  at  the  very  time  when  the  South  Sea 
mania  existed,  is  it  at  all  wonderful  that  the  w«dft 
came^to  be  used  »is  they  were  P  E.  C 

Plav  the  I^ear  (4«»'  S.  ix.  178.)— In  i\)l«Brf» 
llfUijiou^,  and  Love.  Poems,  p.  230  (E.  E.  T.  &),  >• 

tlie  irouplet :  — 

"  war  |m'.  Ironi  I'c  brro  pl"i  nuautir  |  last  he  bite.  ^^ 

for  sclde  ho  stintir.  (if  his  plev  hot  vif  he  bite  orsail^ 

John  Ileywofd,  in  his  IJialoffue,  ^,  (p"***^ 

chap,  vii.),  has  — 

'*  Nay  farewell  sow  (quoth  he)  our  lord  biya'me 
I'rom  ba«<syiii^  of  bi'ustes  of  B^are  binder  Une^"— 

which  seems  to  bear  on  the  subject. 

I  once  iR'ard  the  phrase,  ''to  play  the  Aev^ 
Ixar,"  but  cnuld  get  no  explanation  of  the  pJ«W* 
Diies  anybody  know  this  form  of  the  expiesBMnP 

John  AdsA 

Stamp  used  instead  of  the  Sign  MajtitaiO^ 
IIi-NiiY  Vlil.  (4'»'  S.  ix.  170.)— A  stamj),  rinulff 
to  that  dcseribed  by  your  correspondent,  is  affisfl^ 
ti)  a  suinni'^us  apparently  from  the  Court  » 
lOxchequcr,  whirh  i:*  in  my  possession.  The  docu- 
ment  ends  with  the  words,  ''given  under  Wff 
Siirnct  at  our  Manour  of  Grenwych";  anditji 
oountor-signed  by  three  oflicials,  including  S^ 
Thomas  More,  who  was  appdnied  Tieanutf 
the  Exche(^cr  in  1521.  See  Cunpboll'  " 
cellors,  i.  52/. 


1*BbIZ.  UutCH  16, 'TS.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Rerildio  Hssozhoq  (4'"  S.  ii.  S8.)— 
"  He  beanth  ainre  thrra  bedc«hogs  or,  hj  Ihe  name  of 
AbrakcJI.    Tha  hsdgshog  sicmGeth   a  man  expect  in 

Cthcring  of  subiUnce.  and  one  that  providently  layeth 
Id  upon  proffered  opportunitr,  and  ut  mniinth  hay  (ad 
irB  BtT  proverbially)  whilest  the  sunne  doth  shine,  pre- 
Taateih  ftitarewint."  (Extract  from  (iwillim's  lltraldry, 
A.0. 1688,  p.  ail.) 

In  the  Merrford  VitUatum,  1580,  under  the 
"  Arms  of  the  Gentry  of  Hereford  in  BlazDn," 
these  (krms  sre  home  by  Abrahall  de  Abnhall, 
who  was  hijch  afaerifflS?!. 
.  Hia  ftDce«tinr  Johannes  Abrahall  was  M.P.  for 
die  county,  and  died  at  Eaton  Tregoz  in  the  pariah 
of  Foy,  in  which  pariah,  though  on  the  opposite 
ride  of  the  Wye,  John  Abrahall  in  1618  built 
Ingateatone,  and  bought  the  advowson  of  Foy. 
Hia  nephew,  the  Rev.  George  Abrabsll,  became 
vicar  and  patron  of  Foy,  and  on  bis  decease  in 
1073  one  ol  his  co-heiresseB  bcoufrht  the  Uving  to 
her  husband,  the  Rev.  William  Jones,  M.A.,  in- 
cumbent of  How  Caple,  in  whose  family  the 
living  of  Foy  temaine  to  this  day,  and  the  arms 
of  Abrahall  are  quartered  with  those  of  Jonea, 
the  creat  bein?  tte  hedgehog,  and  the  motto, 
"  J'ai  garde  U  Foy." 

The  Abrahall  family  iDtermarried  with  thoaa  of 
KodhaU,  Hoskyns,  Mackey,  Walwyn,  Owillim, 
and  Kyrle,  and  the  arms  of  Abrahall  are  carved 
on  a  abield  outside  the  church  aa  well  as  repre- 
Mnted  in  the  eaat  window  of  Foy  church, 

J.  J.  M. 

LtrciPBK  Matches  (4'"  S.  is.  53.)— As  a  rider 
to  the  cutting  publiahod  by  R.  Vf.  H.  N.,  this 
note  may  be  of  suifictent  interest  to  warrant  its 
insertion  in  "  N.  &  Q,"  Prior  to  the  year  1832, 
the  malchea  used  in  the  United  States  were  im- 
ported from  England,  and  the  price  was  almost 
one  cent  each.  In  V^2  a  Ynnkco  HtHrtud  the 
manufacture  of  matches  in  New  York,  giving 
them  the  name  of  "  locofoooa."  To  matches  bear- 
Ug  this  name  there  ia  a  history  attached.  During 
a  rather  stormy  political  meeting  in  the  old  Tam- 
many Hall  the  opponents  of  the  meeting  contrived 
to  turn  out  the  gas,  thus  putting  the  meeting  in 
darimeis.  A  gentleman  present  having  in  his 
pocket  a  box  of  "  locofocos,  the  gas  was  relighted 
amidst  tremendouR  cheering.  Thia  incidental  by- 
play received  considerable  attention,  and  a  "jubi- 
lating" song  waa  composed  in  honour  of  "loco- 
ibco  matcnea.  The  particular  polilical  party 
were  dubbed  with  the  nickname  of  "  Locofocoa, 
and  the  famous  matches  gained  a  large  sale. 

TnOS,  RiTCLIFFE. 

"Antr  SiiEi.1.":  "  Conus,"  Line  231  (4'"  3. 
ix.  178.)— 

"  Aery  ibell ".'"  the  horizon."—  Warbarl™. 
"Ttafe  aditlon  of  this  mask,  with  alteralioni  far  ths 
■tin  bath  ceJtinatead  oritz//;  but  the  commniv  nading 
.  it  much  Ills  besC    The  nymph  ii  seated  in  a  convex 


vehicls  of  air,  which,  on  account  of  lis  ftorm,  ia  called  a 
iettitdo  or  lAcS.  And  as  all.aound  ia  communicaled  bv 
the  air,  the  poet  hath  veiy  natarally  auigned  her  this 
aery  vehicle,  whereby  to  receive  and  retain  lie  vaiions 
impulees.  Tft»do,  or  thtil,  being  a  nima  also  tot  a 
ronaical  iDftramect  (a  Irre)  which  coald  f(ive  no  aoand 
but  when  it  wai  atrack  upon,  the  word  beaudfullf  alladei 
to  the  natnrs  of  tbia  vocal  nymph." — Galtnn. 

"  I  cannot  bat  think,"  remarks  Bithop  Newton  (Uil- 
ton'e  Wotkt.  1749,  iii,  414),  "(Airtf  the  better  word,  for  ttia 
reasons  auigued ;  but  yet  it  may  be  aai^  to  juatUj  Dr. 

DaltoQ'a  alteration,  that  Hilton  fiath 

the  margin  of  his  maoamipt." 


hath  aim  written  ctll  in 


a.  M.  T. 

ToBinsTEB  (4"^  S.  ii.  00.)— Qu.  from  the  old 
German  word  tonten,  to  tug,  to  pull ;  perhaps 
also,  to  drag  F     Campe  aays  of  this  word  :  — 

"  Der  TormitltT,  ein  Reiaeaick  voo  angecerblen  Fellea, 
besondera  der  Soldaten,  Ein  alter  Tarniiter,  im  R.  D. 
ein  Schimnfwort  .  .  .  vonUglioh  von  FraneaileotMi 
cebrancbt.' 

R.  6.  Ckarhock. 

Gray's  Inn. 

BcBXfl's  "  'Peknticb  Hah'  "  (4"  S.  \x.  61, 
170.) — The  same  idea  ia  found  in  a  poem  b* 
Maister  Alex^der  Artiuthnot  (H^tteenth  century^, 
entitled  "The  Praises  of  Wemen,"  printed  m 
Pinkerton's  Andetit  Scetith  Foam,  L  141  i — 
"  The  prtH>ertMa  perpend 

Of  everie  warldlie  wiihl  j 

Sa  comlie  nane  ar  kend, 

Ab  ia  a  tadje  biycht. 

Pleaand  in  bed,  bowium  and  red  ; 

Ana  dainti*  dav  and  nycht, 

Ane  halegaai  tbioe,  aae  hairtca  If  king, 

Gif  men  wald  reitl  (bame  richt 
••  Quben  God  maid  all  of  nochi, 

lie  did  thia  weill  declare. 

The  taat  thing  that  he  wrocbt 


Maist  pIcMnd  and  predjir, 

Ane  help  lo  man  God  maid  hir  than  : 

(johat  will  ye  I  aay  mair  ?  " 

The  idea  does  not  seem  to  me  of  snch  a  chaimctet 

aa  to  necessitate  the  feuppo^tion  of  its  proverbial 
occurrence,  cr  that  Bums  saw  either  the  Jfhirlij/ig 
or  the  Decameron.  W.  F.  (2). 

"IlBABl  HBAEl"  (i^^  S.  ix.  200.)  — I  have 
aomowhere  read,  but  I  cannot  remember  where, 
that  in  the  Middle  Ages  it  was  a  practice  with 
the  preachers  in  our  cathedrals  to  pause  from 
lime  to  time  in  their  discourse,  and  ciy  in  a  loud 
voice  to  the  people  in  distant  parts  of  the  build- 
ing, "  Do  you  hear  me  P  "  To  which  the  far-otT 
auditors  (if  their  ears  had  been  sentient)  would 
set  up  a  loud  about  of  "  We  hear  I  we  hear  1  " 
This  grew  in  time  to  he  a  conventional  affirma- 
tion at  every  pause  ;  but  I  am  afrwd  thii  "Hear,  ^^ 
hears  "  bestowed  on  modern  acrmons  would  be  but  ^V 
•canty,  to  sav  nothing  of  modetatVvojJtt.-^'as^'to* 
which  fotbios  anj  Bitk\i!^\A  cnSAowa  aa  *  *KnBa 


230 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*»»  S.  IX.  March  16, 72. 


at  all.  Everybody  knows  the  story  of  the  verbose 
barrister  who  objected  to  stop  for  the  sermon  after 
Morning  Prayer,  on  the  ground  that  "  there  was 
no  right  of  replv." 

Or  "  Hear !  Kear ! "  may  be,  with  "  0  yes,  0 
yes,"  a  corruption  of  "  Oyez !  oyez  I " 

George  A.  Sala. 
The  Reform  Club. 

I  apprehend  that  not  long  ago,  say  about  the 
end  of  the  last  century,  this  expression  will  be 
found  written  *'  Hear  him  *' !  which  would  be  con- 
clusive as  to  the  sense. 

"  Hear,  hear  "  ia  a  Scriptural  phrase.  Query, 
how  manv  of  your  readers  can  tell  the  place  with- 
out the  aid  of  a  Concordance  ?  Lyttelton. 

Provincialisms  (4"»  S.  ix.  119,  180.)— The 
common  Scots  words  skelp  and  hyre  are  explained 
in  Jamieson's  Dictionary^  the  former  (both  noun 
and  verb)  as  from  Isl.  skelfoj  and  the  latter  as 
perhaps  allied  to  Franc,  huer  -  a  cottage,  or  as  a 
derivative  from  Isl.  Am  =  a  cow.  There  is  evidently 
no  such  word  as  "  common  "  =  shinty,  hockey ;  and 
Jamieson  seems  not  to  hayo  betm  aware  of  the 
existence  of  "  cammon,"  though  he  mentions  the 
Gael.  caman  =  &  hurling  club.  (See  s.  v.  ''Cam- 
mock.'')  ^    W.  F.  (2). 

May  I  suggest  as  to  the  derivation  of  cammon 
and  skelpj  that  the  first  is  derived  frohi  the  0.  N. 
gaman  =  SL  game,  and  the  latter  from  tho  Danish 
8kulp€=:SL  shake.  It  is  probable  that  the  Old 
Norsk  would  show  a  more  ancient  derivation. 

J.  Henry  Brown. 

Sherwood  Rise,  near  Nottingham. 

Ovid,  ['  Metam."  xiii.  254,  5  (4»»»  S.  vii.  viii. 
passim;  ix.  189.) — 

"  Cujus  equos  pretium  pro  nocte  |)oposcerat  hostis 
Arma  negate  mihi,  fueritque  benignior  Ajax." 

,1  am  much  obliged  to  Mr.  Tew  for  his  confirma- 
tion of  my  rendering  of  "  benignior."  I  intentied 
by  my  query  only  to  elicit  opinion,  and  not  to 
provoke,  or  take  part  in,  controversy ;  but  I  cannot 
nelp  a  brief  comment  upon  the  rest  of  Mr.  Tew's 
note.  Mr.  Tew  says :  "  *  Let  Ajax  have  them  ' 
can  hardly,  I  think,  be  accepted  as  a  legitimate 
rendering  of  *  Anna  negate  mihi.' "  Of  course  it 
cannot.  It  was  never  intend od  to  bo  a  rendering 
of  those  words  at  nil.     My  version  runs — 

"  Deny  me  now  the  arms 
Of  him  whose  fitvvt\»  that  DoUm,  but  for  me, 
Had  won  in  guenlon  of  his  midnight  feat. : — 
Let  Ajax  have  them  : — ^\'e  mi\y  make  at  least 
His  temper  something  sweeter  with  the  gift" ! 

The  translation  of  "  Arma  negate  mihi "  is  in 
the  first  five  word?*.  The  List  two  lines  describe, 
in  my  view,  the  consequence  of  the  negation.  I 
may  admit  at  once  that  there  are  no  actual  words 


in  the  text  for  ''Let  Ajax  have  them."  Bat 
I  hold  that  Ajax's  having  them  is  a  neoeflaair 
consequence  of  Ulysses'  not  having  them ;  and  I 
cannot  but  think"^  that  Mr.  Tew'b  notion  that 
the  judges  might  refuse  theih  to  Ulysses,  and 
yet  not  give  them  to  Ajax,  is  a  super-subtilty  of 
interpretation.  (I  hope  the  phraae  is  not,  as. as- 
suredly it  is  not  meant  to  be,  offensive  to  Mb. 
Tew.)  The  matter,  in  my  view,  was  very  simple. 
The  candidates  were  "  whittled  down "  to  two, 
Ajax  and  Ulysses;  and  one  of  these  two  was  to 
have  the  prize.  I  cannot  discover  the  slightest 
ground  for  the  notion  that  both  might  be  set 
aside,  and  the  arms  left  over  as  a  subject  fiir 
future  and  other  disputation.  IIsnbt  Koto. 

5,  Paper  Buildings,  Temple. 

P.S.  Perhaps  ''claimed"  (in  my  third  line) 
would  have  been  a  better  word  than  *'  won  "  fui 

"poposcerat." 


Mi€ttlitintaui» 

NOTES  ON  BOOKS,  ETC. 

Noiiiia  Enrharhtica :  a  Commentary,  Expianaim^ 
tritvilf  and  Uisiorical^  on  the  Order  of  the  AdmImM 
twn  of  the  Jjard*  Supper,  or  H(Ay  Cbmiiiima0Ji«  at 
ing  to  the  Use  of  the  Church  of  England,     tVWk 
Appendix  on  the  Office  for  the  Commundtin  of  the 
By  W.  K.  Scudamore,  M.A.,  Rector  of  Ditchinghiiiv 
and  formerly  Fellow  of  St  John's  College,  CambridgiP 
(Rivingtons.) 

This  ample  title-page  so  fairlv  points  oat  the  gpsri^  ^ 
character  of  the  work  before  as  that  we  may,  for  obvioa^ 
reasons,  content  ourselves  with  stating  the  olgeet  whis'^ 
induced  its  learned  author  to  undertake  it.  This  wv| 
the  hope  of  allaWng  some  of  the  painful  diffarenoei  whiv' 
exist  among  the  members  of  our  Church ;  and  that,  ai  " 
importance  of  some  things  that  are  in  a  theological 
indifferent  are  greatly  exaggerated  on  both  sidei,  a  ~ 
knowledge  of  their  origin  and  history  might  lead  to 
right  understanding  of  their  true  character  and  valoe. 


Historical  Essays  in  connexion  with  the  LMudf  w ^ 

&'r.     By  William  Robertson,  Author  of  ''SoodaO^ 
iinder  her  Early  Kings.*'    (Edmondson  k  Douglu.) 

Few  would  be  led  by  the  title  of  this  book  to  antidpaf 
how  much  the  information  contained  in  it,  though  nte^ 
ing  to  remote  times,  and  in  some  cases  to  distant  Isarf* 
l^ears  upon  9ome  of  the  social  questioDS  of  the  pi«B** 
day ;  and  the  advocates  of  the  theory  that  every  niHL'' 
born  into  the  world  with  equal  rights,  and  thoia  i^ 
contend  fur  an  equal  division  of  a  landed  iDhMritSPfl* 
among  the  heirs,  would  do  well  to  see  what  Mr.  Bobtf^ 
son  lins  to  NAv  as  to  these  theories,  and  the  light  tfaie^ 
upon  them  in'  the  course  of  his  investigatiocu  into  nV 
apparently  irrelevant  subjects  as  **  Standards  of  ths  Vt^ 
in   Wiight  and  Currency";  "The Tear  and  iU  ladlj 
tion  " ;  ''  The  Land  and  its  Division  " ;  and  <•  Chapm* 
English  History  before  the  Cooqaest.** 

Books   rkcbtvkp. — Cummedand  TaXk:  ftdiy  AM 
Tales  and  I{hyme9_  in  the  DidUH  qf  Uhfltf  Oamdit  ftt    i 


ther  with  a  few  Miece/laneowa  Piaeat  4m  Feraa.    J^  M* 
Richardson  of  St.  John*^    (RiunU  Soaitfa.)    Aa«|ii*J 


IS.  MAitcu  16,  7-2.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


id  Talk,"  for  some  of 


UiLUAN  Mhmurial. — A  meeting  of  tbe  friends 
inn  of  Ibe  Ute  Dean  Milman  was  recentlf  held 
lorraj-'s  in  AH>ennir!e  Street,  under  the  Presi- 

"  ttiat,  conaiderini;  the  liigb  position  hdd  by  Dean 
not  in  one  only  but  in  (ovcral  brancbes  of  Ltcra- 
\  varied  sebolanliip,  bh  many  exeellcnt  pub- 
)rk»,  which  the  world  will  not  willingly  let  die, 

^  of  hia  temper,  and  tlie  cordial  warmth  ot  bis 
ps — it  ia  most  desirable  that  a  Memorial  abonld 
,  witbout  further  delay,  in  that  Cathedral  Cburi^b 
ch  be  ao  worthily  presided  as  Dean."  A  veiy 
tl  Committee  waa  formed  to  give  effect  to  this 
];  and  subscriptions  in  furtherance  of  it  will  be 
by  Messrs.  DrummondN  MessrJi.  Coutla  &  Co., 
irs.  Praeds-,  as  well  as  by  Mr.  Murray,  50,  Albe- 
'cetjwho  has  kindly  cansenled  to  act  as  Hanorary 


nta,  to  enable  the  votaries  lo  place  themselves,  as  it 
immediately  under  the  healing  virtues  of  tbe  relics 
~  ■■-'  -  ■----,  been  closed  by 


encased  in  the  feretrum  above,  but  to .^  „ 

panels  of  elaborate  tracery  to  the  height  or21  ft.  froi 
the  ground.  The  upper  slory  of  the  shrine  was  formed 
ofnchly-gmined  canopied  niches,  under  delicately-earved 
pediments,  the  whole  finished  with  a  higblv  wrought  cor- 
nice. The  whole  height,  eicluding  the  lere'lrum  or  sbriofl 
proper,  cpntaining  the  saint's  relics,  which  being  WT  pre- 
cious metals  is  hopelessly  lost,  was  about  8  ft.  Some 
twisted  pillars  have  been  found,  reinlndiDg  one  of  those 
I  at  Edward  the  Confessor's  shrine  at  Wesiminster,  but 
witbout  mosaics.  These  Bcem  to  have  Blood  detached, 
and  may  have  borae  tapers.  Tbe  material  of  the  monu- 
ment ia  Purbect  shell  marble,  with  the  anceplion  of  tha 
grumiugof  the  niches,  which  isofdunch,  richly  painted 
and  gilL  '  *^ 

"  Tbe  whole  shrine  was  elovated  on  low  nuublo  steps, 
much  worn  with  the  knees  of  the  votaries. 

■■  The  archeologioal  worid  is  watching  with  tbe  deepest 
interest  the  compTction  of  this  novel  work  of  restoration, 
of  which  tverv  day  sees  a  fresh  fiature,  and  which,  when 
finished,  will  be  unrivalled  in  England. 
"I  am  vouTS.  &c.. 

a  Vexablbs. 


—Other 


eovery  of  tbe  Shrine  of  the  I'r 
dtoT/K  Times  of  Wednesday  last  ;■ 
archiEological  discoveries  of  late 
■-  ' --.---^.-j  Shrine  of  St. 


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do  in  the  grand  Abbey  Ch 
g  made '  advisedly,  for  the  fragments  into  whii 
i  of  tbe  protomartyr  of  Itritaiu  was  shivered 
mation  were  built  up  in  the  walls  then  erected 
1  Lady  Chapel  from  the  Church,  when  the  former, 
«  moat  beautiful  and  elaborately  enriched  eK- 
'  the  decorative  style,  was  degraded  to  tbe  pur- 
grammar  school,  and  are  gradually  brought  to 

1  about  three  weeks  ago.  Since  then  scarcely  a 
aased  without  large  additions  being  made  to  the 

thus  nnexpectedly  rescued  after  three  centuries' 
-nt,  and  reasonable  hopes  are  entsrlained  of  the 
if  the  whole,  and  tbe  restoration  of  the  abrine  in 
ity.    When  I  waa  there  last  Wednesday,  the 

were  cuntinuallv  bringing  in  'fresh  piec«a  of 
rk,  which  Mr.  Cliapple,  the  clerk  of  the  works, 

Gilbert  Scott,  was  fitting  together  with  con- 
ikill,  and  a  Cuvier-like  discernment  of  the  pre- 

in  tbe  complete  de^gn  each  was  to  occupi'. 
ments  fitted  together  during  my  short  visit 
las  relief  of  the  martyrdom  of  St.  Alban,  repre- 

bad  just  cut  off  tbe  falling  head  of  the  kneeling 

scourging  of  St.  Amphibalu^  the  apocryphal 
ufactured  by  medisval  martyrologists  out  of 
amphibalif/n,  of  St.  Alban.  Another  represents 
ig  bis  church. 

r.  Chappie's  directions  a  core  of  brickwork  baa 
wisrity  erected, '  round  which  tbe  recovered 
■re  being  built  up.  The  ahrioe  appears  to 
8  ft.  long  by  4  ft.  broad.  Each  of  the  longer 
pieioed  with  four  niches,  the  shorter  with  two. 
>e>  seem  Dot  to  have  come  down  to  the  ground 
leeUng  neeises,  u  waa  uaual  with  tbe  ehiinw 


SoUw<  to  €antifttaatntt. 

J.  D.— The  lovalid'a  Hymn-Book,  TmdflK  Thaamd, 
DuUin,  IHM.  teai  idatd  by  Mia  H.  Eitrmm.  Sht  >i 
Hotxced  in  Iht  Rev.  H.  Woodioatdt  Sermons  and  Lectures 
on  Hutb.  Tkt  I27IA  Hvmn,  aUitlcd  "  TAy  miU  bt  done." 
ii  by  Vie  laU  dtartatU  EUiaU  of  Brighton. 

A.  O.  V.  P.— Ooi»-ciil*.  "Plagula.  Vtlamn  capilU 
limum  mirau,  quo  iKutnitei  fenwut  fm  capita  int^unt. 
A  cnuc-cloUu,  or  hat  kcre/ar." — Nomendator. 

T,  Fkltoh  Falkhkb.— TJttrfaen  artiela  on  burialt  on 
tht  north  tida  of  thurcliyardt  atptartd  in  (A<  Finl 
Series  o/''H.  4  (i" 


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rqtrinied  in  his  Lordship's  Miscellaneoas  rrose  Works,  ed. 

1868,  i.  1-47. A  letter  addressed  to  the  Secretary  of  the 

Oimden  Society,  should  be  forwarded  to  25,    Parliament 

Street,  Westminster. We  doubt  whether  the  name  of 

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LONDON,  SATURDAY,  MARCH  23, 1872. 


CONTENTS.— No  221. 


KOTES :  — M.  L6on  Gautier's  "Chanson  de  Roland,"  233  — 
Robert  PorbeH,  234  —  On  the  Separation  and  Transmuta- 
tion of  Liquids,  235  —  Burns's  t'opy  of  "  Shakespeare," 
mnd  Blind  Harry's '*  Wallace,"  236— Inventory  of  Goods 
of  John  Scott,  lb.  —  Utility  of  Encyclopsodias  —  Shake- 
speare: contemporary  Criticism  —  Moore  and  Bulwer- 
lijtton  —Wither  and  Keble  — Seijeant- The  Guillotine 
in  1872  — Skinner's  and  Jacob's  Horse  —  American  Eagle, 
237. 

QITEBIES :  —  Rev.  Wm.  Baddeley  —  "  Barlay  *'  —  Sir  Ran- 
dolph Edwin  —  Fieschi   Family  — Fourmont:  Ibranicotti 

—  The  French  Ship  TOrieiit  —  "  Hand  of  Glory  "  -  Capt. 
Henry  Heron  —  John  Knox's  Psalter  —  Lpj?al  Interpreta- 
tion—Capt.  Samuel  King's  Narrative  —  Dr.  John  Owen's 
Pedigree  —  Pajdiameutary  Companions  —  Proverb  —  The 
Punjab  —  The  Queen  at  Temple  Bar  —  Repeck  — Roman 
Tes^sera  —  Equivocal  Relationship  —  Royalist  Tokens  — 
The  Seal  of  Pilton  Priory  —  Song:  "  Fye.  Gae  Rub  Her" 

—  Stone  Tobacco-Pipes  —  Sundry  Queries  —  Etymology  of 
Bamames  —  Wat  Tyler  —  Wetberby,  Dean  of  Cashel  — 
Wordsworth's  "Ode  on  the  Intimations  of  Immortality," 
SS8. 

REPLIES :  —  Erikdnig,  242  —  Gourmand :  Gourmet.  lb,  — 
Willy,  243  —••  Our  King  he  went  to  Dover,"  244  —  Monas- 
tic Libraries  — "My  Thoujfbts  are  racked"  — Dr.  Wm. 
Strode  —  Claws  of  Shell- Pish  —  Unicorns  —  "  With  Helmet 
on  his  Brow  "  —  "  Nee  bene  fecit,  nee,"  Ac  —  Umbrellas  — 
FlMiade  or  Pavade  —  O'Doherty's  Maxims  —  Danforth — 
••  Sugar  "  —  Bows  in  Bonnets  —  The  Lord  Boqueki  —  Lady 
AKce  Egerton  —  Blue-vinid  Cheese— Hotch- Pot  —  Perse- 
cution or  the  Heathen  —  Washington  and  Kent  Families 

—  **  As  straight  as  a  Die  "—  Longevity  —  Lord-Lieutenant 
— Sauliea  —  Clerical  Longevity,  ftc,  245. 

Votes  OD  Books,  ftc. 


M.  L]60N  GAUTIER'S  "  CHANSON  DE 

ROLAND." 

M.  L^n  Gautier,  whose  name  is  so  well  known 
<ni  tlie  other  side  of  the  Channel  in  connection 
with  mediaeval  literature,  and  whose  splendid  his- 
tory of  ics  Epopees  frangaises  has  made  the  study 
<rf  old  metrical  romances  so.  peculiarly  attrac- 
^«,  bas  just  published  a  book  which,  even  from 
^  point  of  view  of  English  lore,  deserves  to  be 
™oiight  under  the  notice  of  our  readers.    Before 
^unerating,  however,  the  various  illustrations  of 
^  kind  which  a  careful  perusal  of  the  work  has 
J*bled  us  to  gather,  we  must  say  a  few  words  of 
««  publication  itself. 

The  Chanson  de  Holaiidy  or  de  Roncevam',  is  ac- 
^J*wle^ed  to  be  the  centre  around  which  are 
"'^rea  together  all  the  gedes  referring  to  what 
!|j^be  called  the  Carlovingian  cycle  of  epics. 
Jl^pnologically,  -it  belongs  indeed  to  a  much 
*^er  date  than  the  other  poems  of  the  same 
^ttp,  but  in  j)oint  both  of  historical  interest  and 
^  literary  merit  it  surpasses  them  all,  and  stands 
*^  as  the  gem  of  the  whole  collection.  It  was 
*^tand,  therefore,  that  savants  whose  attention 
^•8  directed  to  the  study  of  mediaeval  romances 
jjould  be  particularly  attracted  by  the  Chanson  de 
^ofaftcf,  and  several  editions  of  the  poem  had  al- 
^y  been  published  before  M.  L^on  Qautier  ap- 


plied himself  to  the  same  task.  The  labours  of 
M.  Francisque  Michel,*  of  M.  G^uin,  t  and  of 
M.  Th.  Muller,  {  however,  highly  meritorious  as 
they  are  in  many  respects,  were  far  from  ex- 
hausting the  subject,  and  they  cannot  for  a  mo- 
ment be  compared  in  point  of  completeness  with 
the  volumes  I  am  now  describing. 

M.  L^on  Gautier's  first  tome  §  gives  us,  besides 
the  text  of  the  poem  accompanied  by  a  rendering 
in  modem  French,  a  copious  introduction  which 
discusses  all  the  problems  of  archaeological,  his- 
torical, and  literary  importance  suggested  by  the 
Chctnson  de  Roland,  Thirteen  spirited  etchings 
and  a  fac-simile  of  a  MS.  to  which  I  shall  pre- 
sentlv  advert  give  to  this  volume  the  character 
of  what  we  should  call  a  Christmas-book,  whilst 
it  is  on  the  other  hand  essentially  addressed  to 
scholars  familiar  with  the  French  literature  of  the 
middle  ages. 

The  second  volume  ||  comprises,  1st,  a  formid- 
able apparatus  of  notes  and  various  readings ;  2nd, 
a  glossary ;  3rd,  a  very  full  alphabetical  index. 
The  notes  are  often  real  disquisitions  on  several 
points  of  biography  or  antiquity  connected  with 
the  Chanson  de  Itoland,  Thus  we  have,  1st  (pp.  58- 
60)  a  summary  of  the  Ugende  de  Roland,  illus* 
trated  by  a  page  of  woodcuts ;  2nd  (pp.  25-51)  a 
rSsumi  of  the  same  kind  on  the  Ugende  de  Charlo' 
magne ;  3rd  (pp.  116-127)  an  essay  on  the  offen- 
sive and  defensive  armours  mentioned  in  the  poem, 
&c.  &c.  At  the  beginning  of  the  volume  is  a 
jnap,  where  M.  Gautier  has  endeavoured  to  iden- 
tify the  localities  described,  and  more  particularly 
certain  places  respecting  which  antiquaries  have 
not  yet  come  to  an  agreement.  Finally,  a  quarto 
brochure,  published  as  a  supplement,  1|  gives  the 
revised  edition  of  the  text  with  all  the  corrections 
which  M.  Gautier  has  been  able  to  gather  from  an 
attentive  study  of  the  varioutf  MSS. 

It  is  rather  curious  that  the  oldest  and  best  MS. 
of  the  Chanson  de  Rolafid  should  belong  to  an 
English  library ;  it  is  preserved  in  the  Bodleian 
(Di^by  MSS.  No.  2G),  and  was  probably  written 
during  the  second  half  of  the  twelfth  century. 
M.  L^on  Gautier  has  taken  it  as  the  groundwork  of 
his  editiouj  completing  and  correcting  it  wherever 
any  hiatus  occurs,  with  the  help  of  another  codex 

*  iMChanson de  Roland,  »u  de  Roncevaux,  du  xii^  siecle^ 
publide  pour  la  premibre  foi«  d^apr^  le  manuscrit  de  la 
Bibliotb^ae  BodMienne  d'Oxford,  par  Fr.  Michel.  Paris, 
1837,  8°.    A  second  edition  was  published  in  1869. 

t  La  Chanson  de  Roland,  poeme  de  TherotUde ;  texte 
critique  accompagn^  d*une  traduction  et  de  notes,  par 
F.  G6nin.    Paris,  1850.    8«. 

X  La  Chanaon  de  Roland  herichtigt  und  tnit  einem 
GUnsar  liergehen  nebst Beitragen  znrGeschichte  desfranzS- 
sUcken  Sprache,  von  Dr.  M.  Milller.  Gdttingen,  1851.  8*. 

§  Large  8°,  pp.  cci-327. 

I  Pp.  vii.-507. 

T  Pp.  47.  The  work  has  beenj  printedj[and  brought 
out  at  Tours  by  M.  Mame. 


234 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4(h  S.  IX.  IUboh  28,  *7% 


belonging  to  the  library  of  St  Mark  at  Venice, 
and  which  cannot  be  ascribed  to  a  higher  date 
than  the  fourteenth  century.  A  third  MS.,  on 
paper  written  two  hundred  years  later,  forms  part 
of  the  Trinity  College  library  at  Cambridge ;  and 
finally,  we  learn  from  Gunton's  History  of  the 
Church  of  Peterhoroughy  that  in  the  year  108C 
the  cathedral  library  of  that  city  possessed  'also  a 
MS.  entered  on  the  catalogue  with  the  following 
indication  :  K.  xiv.  De  belio  valic-Roncie,  gallic^. 

We  shall  now  borrow  from  the  excellent  notes 
of  M.  L(Jon  Gautier  a  few  quotations  which  illus- 
trate details  of  English  history,  archasology,  or 
literature. 

Lines  .'$72,  3— 
*•  Vers  luiglctfirc  passat  il  la  mcr  aalso, 
Ad  ocs  Seint  Pcro  en  conquist  lo  chevage." 

Transl.  "  lie  (Charlemagne)  crossofl  over  the  briny 
sea  into  England,  and  conqnercd  the  tribute  of  that 
country  for  Saint  Peter." 

This  passage,  our  author  remarks,  is  an  allusion 
to  the  JPeter's  pence.  The  Chanaon  de  Itoland 
ascribes  its  institution  erroneously  to  Charlemagne, 
but  is  right  as  to  the  date  ;  for  OfTa,  king  of  Mer- 
cia,  who  died  in  7i)C,  and  who  is  generally  sup- 
posed to  have  promised,  both  for  himself  and  his 
successors,  the  annual  payment  of  800  merks  to  the 
Holy  See,  was  a  contemporary  of  the  French  em- 

$eror.      (See  Schnidl,   m    Welte   and   Wetzer's 

Line  J)2G— 

"  A  Durendal  jo  la  motrai  oncuntre." 
TmmL    "  I  shall  place  it  opposite  to  Durendal." 

M.  Gautier,  it  projxts  of  this  line,  gives  us  the 
history  of  li«ilana'8  famous  sword,  and  shows  that 
although  the  metrical  romance  Fierabras  names 
Mmnfirmis  as  the  smith  who  made  it,  yet  by  far 
the  greater  number  of  writers  ascribe  it  to  the 
celebrated  AVeylandi  so  well  known  to  scholars 
familiar  with  the  old  Ipelandic  sagas  and  with 
the  monuments  of  early  English  literature.  (See, 
inter  aliaj  Huon  do  Bordeaux,  and  the  Karla- 
maf/nua  Sagn.) 

Line  IhUl— 

*'  Ni  ad  cachiprc  ki  s'eleimt  .«»e  par  lui  nun.'* 

Traml.  "  There  is  no  sailor  that  does  not  claim  him  as 
his  lonl." 

In  the  modern  French  version  we  find :  "  Pas 
de  navirv^  pas  de  barque  cjui  ne  se  r<5clanie  de  lui ;  *' 
but  in  the  n«)tes  M.  Gauticr  substitutes  with  much 
reason  the  word  marinior,  ^*  EAchipre'^  is  evi- 
dently tlio  same  as  the  English  substantive  slipper. 
An  old  translation  of  the  first  book  of  Kings 
(chap.  ix.  27)  renders  the  passage,  sirvos  suos, 
nautaiff  i\ui^ :  ses  hnmvA  ki  eschipre  furent  hon, 
M.  Chevallet  (Originc  vt  Format  urn  dv  la  Langue 
frou^aijte,  vol.  i.  p.'  :M0)  had  also  given  the  same 
equivalent.  Gustave  Massox. 

llarrow-on-tho  Hill. 

(7\»  h*  contiMiuiL) 


ROBERT  FORBES. 

In  the  first  volume  of  the  Shotisk  Saikuk  and 
Songs,  Historical  and  Traditionary  (£dinbiiXKli» 
1868,  8yo,  p.  215),  will  be  found  a  spiritad  b«t 
rude  set  of  verses,  called  the '<  Battle  of  Coziclii6|'* 
prefaced  by  some  remarks  which  show  it  to 
nave  been  the  composition  of  Kobert  Foz^Mfl^  a 
schoolmaster  somewhere  on  the  banks  of  the  Des, 
and  known  as  the  author  of  a  facetious  poem  in 
the  broad  Buchan  dialect,  called  ''  Ajax's  Speeck 
to  the  Grecian  Knabs,*'  which  has  considerable 
merit  and  is  replete  with  coarse  humour. 

Forbes  had,  it  seems,  been  so  unfortunate  as  to 
incur  the  enmity  of  the  kirk  session  of  the  pariah 
in  which  he  lived,  in  consequence  of  some  seandsl 
which  had  come  to  the  ears  of  the  members  of 
that  pryinp  ecclesiastical  inquisition,  bj  which 
the  'M)ominie,''  as  he  calls  himself,  was  deposed. 
This  Forbes  records  in  a  poem  he  printed,  whidi 
was  so  popular  that  it  rapidly  drcutated  throngfc- 
out  the  North  in  the  shape  of  a  penny  chap-book 
with  the  title  of  The  Dominie  Ikposed.  It  occu- 
pied a  prominent  place  ip  the  popular  litsiatme 
of  .the  lower  classes  in  Scotland,  and  even  foimd 
its  way  into  England,  until  these  amusing  littk 
penny  productions  were,  by  the  rapid  stndsi  of 
the  march  of  intellect  in  its  progress  out  of  the 
kingdom,  swept  from  the  cottages  of  the  peasaatij 
and  left  nothing  better  in  their  place. 

The  date  of  the  deposition  has  not  been  aseer- 
tained,  but  it  was  probably  between  1760  and 
1700.  The  address  of  ''Ajax  to  the  Grsdn 
Kuabs*'  was  printed  between  1740  and  1760^  if 
not  at  an  earlier  date.  That  Forbes  was  well 
acquainted  both  with  Latin  and  possibly  Gieek 
is  evident ;  but  until  accident  threw  the  tollomg 
verv  uncommon  tract  in  the  wav  of  the  writer,  ht 
had  no  idea  that  the  **  deposed  Dominie  "  had  a 
tolerable  knowledge  of  French,  and  could  compoit 
very  fair  poetry  in  that  language. 

'rhe  production  referred  to  has  this  title:  — 

*•  Suite  dc  la  Satyre  de  Boileaa  snr  la  Vill«  de  Pttia 
T*ar  KoKKKs.  .  .  . 'a  Edimbonr^:  De  rimprinsrit  # 
K.  Fleming:.    aiDCCL."    8vo,  p.  10. 

The  writer  in  a  brief  address,  ^'au  leeteir* 
mentions  that  he  cannot  pretend  to  rival  BoUsiii 
and  has  only  attempted  to  copy  him.    He 

tinues  thus :  — 


•'  D'aillcurs  comine  j'al  vu  Paris,  nuus  avsc  _^^ 
youx  que  ifa  fait  cct  autenr,  et  que  ne  fUt  tont  P^M 
j'ai  cm  que  cette  ebauche  poavoit  entrar  k  la  mitsaiM 
Siityrc.** 

Accordingly,  Forbes  gives  an  amumng  •fioon^ 
of  the  ecclesiastical  state  of  the  fVeneh  ca^tdii 
ITiiOf  and  concludes  with  informing  his  ioidtfi 
that  the  liberty  unknown  in  F^rance  dwells — 

*'  Ton  dit  daiiA  la  Grande-Bretogne,  o6  r^gne  OS  boa  li| 
qa*ou  nomme  Gecirge  Magne.    Nona  avoni  k  Fttii  ■ 
Vicri^e  et  tous  lea  aainta,  mais  c*oit  Londns  qnl 
Ics  viTitablcs  biens!  ** 


I  ,  „ 


4th  s.  IX  Marcu  23,  '72. ]  NOTE S  AND  QUERIE  S. 


235 


In  a  note  Forbes  observes  that,  however  much 
the  French  may  esteem  Charlemagiie,  he  thinks 
King  George  infinitely  greater  than  King  Charles. 
There  certainly  is  no  direct  evidence  that  the 
author  of  the  address  of  Ajax  was  also  the  writer 
of  the  supplement  to  Boileau ;  but  there  are  several 
concurring  circumstances  that  induce  a  presump- 
tion that  ne  was.  The  author's  name  was  Forbes. 
His  ascertained  productions  are  almost  all  of  the 
same  period ;  and  there  is  no  other  person  of  that 
period  to  whom  the  supplement  to  Boileau's 
Satyre  can  be  ascribed.  Both  writers  delight  in 
satire  and  are  foltd  of  humour,  and  neither  of  them 
have  much  respect  for  ecclesiastical  domination. 
Of  course  the  supposition  may  be  erroneous,  and 
some  obliging  literary  antiquary  of  the  North 
may  be  able  to  settle  the  question ;  or,  without 
being  able  to  do  so,  may  throw  considerable  light 
upon  the  closing  career  of  a  Scotsman  whose 
talents  at  a  later  date,  and  in  a  different  locality, 
might  have  raised  him  in  the  world.  As  to  the 
scandal  for  which  he  suffered,  it  is  not  unchari- 
table to  conjecture  that  the  members  of  the  kirk 
session — as  many  members  of  such  arbitrary  courts 
too  frequently  were  at  the  time — would  not  be  in- 
disposea  to  deal  sharply  with  one  whose  humorous 
productions  they  could  not  appreciate,  which  they 
^  might  consider  as  highly  unbecoming  in  a  teacher 
'  of  youth ;  and,  therefore,  would  be  happy  to  take 
the  first  opportunity  that  occurred  for  dismissing 
him  from  his  office  as  a  teacher.  J.  M. 


ON  THE   SEPARATION  AND  TRANSMUTATION 

OF  LIQUIDS. 

Liquid  consonants  —  which  in  the  English 
alphabet  are  /,  my  n,  r — may  be  described  as 
<<  fluent  sounds,  produced  by  an  imperfect  stop- 
pmg  of  the  voice-organ."  It  ;wiU  be  found  upon 
triu  that  whereas  some  of  the  consonants  are 
enunciated  by  means  of  a  definite  stopping  of  the 
air-pi|fe — for  instance,  /;,  t,  j^— and  are  not  fluent, 
the  definition  above  given  will  apply  to  the  as- 
perates and  the  sibilants,  as  well  as  to  /,  m,  n, 
Mid  r.  But  the  last  four  only  are  called  liquids, 
because  they  combine  more  fluently  with  other 
consonants;  and  the  asperates  and  sibilants  are 
referable  on  other  grounds  to  distinct  conso- 
nantal classes.  Another  peculiarity  of  the  four 
pure  liquids  is,  that  they  combine  less  easily  with 
each  other  than  with  the  remaining  consonants. 
They  are  very  rarely  found  in  conjunction  in 
oxigmal  roots  of  the  European  forms  of  the  Indo- 
Tentonic  family.  In  Sanskrit  such  combinations 
irere  not  rare,  tne  commonest  being  those  in  which 
r  followed  one  of  the  other  three.  In  Greek  mn 
oocorsin  three  roots :  mna^  mna-omai,  and  rnnwii. 
Qi  these  the  first  two,  if  not  the  third,  admitted  a 
iFowel  between  the  liquids  on  their  appearance  in 


the  Latin  tongue :  mina,  menSj  minium  ?  But  in 
compound  roots,  derivatives,  and  the  accidental 
forms  of  words,  the  conjunction  of  liquids  is  com- 
mon enough:  e.  g.,  calmnessy  Henry,  amnesty, 
(It  may  be  observed  that  in  the  numerous  cases 
in  which  r  occurs  before  one  of  the  other  three 
liquids,  not  only  iu  the  modern  tongues  but  in 
Greek  and  Latin,  the  two  may  nearly  always  be 
considered  as  belonging  to  separate  syllables — at 
least  as  far  as  their  pronunciation  is  concerned. 
Thus,  in  the  Greek  pom-eia,  the  n  is  very  pro- 
bably external  to  the  original  root,  which  may 
have  been  por  =  "  take  "  or  *'  convey  " ;  just  as 
portheoy  which  approaches  to  the  meaning  oipor- 
neuoy  is  por-\-  th.  But  this  is  simply  conjectural.) 
It  is  in  the  composite  and  accidental  conjunc- 
tion of  liquids  that  the  tendency  to  separation  is 
most  clearly  seen.  I  shall  give  a  few  examples. 
The  root  of  the  Greek  word  aner,  a  man,  is  anr. 
The  accidental  forms  separate  the  n  and  the  r : 
the  older  Epic  by  a  vowel,  the  Attic  by  a  dental ; 
thus,  genitive,  mteros  or  andros.  In  some  Greek 
verbs  again,  the  separation  of  m  and  /  by  the  same 
two  devices  is  familiar  to  the  student.  Thus, 
melo,  "I  am  a  care " ;  perfect,  memhletaiy  for 
memletai  {menieletai).  But  more  modem  instances 
are  quite  as  numerous,  interesting,  and  important. 
The  composite  race  to  whose  language  the  name 
of  Frencn  now  applies,  borrowed  from  the  clas- 
sical tongues  many  words  in  which  two  liquids 
were  separated  by  a  vowel ;  and  whilst  adopting, 
they  aboreviated  them.  Thus  cinery  cenre :  numer, 
jiomre;  gener,  genre.  The  liquid  conjunction 
being  found  difiicult,  a  dental  or  labial  was  intro- 
duced— a  dental  after  the  dental-liquid  n,  a  labial 
after  the  labial-liquid  m — in  the  first  two,  gene- 
rally ;  in  the  last  occasionally.  Hence  the  Eng- 
lish forms  cinder  J  number  y  gender.  Compare 
Andrew,  The  difficulty  of  this  particular  conj unc- 
tion is  often  illustrated  by  children  and  ignorant 
persons,  in  their  pronunciation  oi  Henry y  which 
in  their  mouths  becomes  Hendry  or  Henery,  And 
so  it  is  generally  with  all  liquid  conjunctions; 
e.  g.,  hel-my  wor-ldy  often  pronounced  in  two  ^1- 
lables.  In  this  way  the  German  town  Koeln  be- 
came the  French  Cologne,*  For  the  same  reason 
the  sound  of  one  out  of  two  liquids  is  often  lost, 
as  in  calmy  wordy  damn,  columuy  and  frequently  in 
kiln,  iron,  and  the  like.  The  whole  question  be- 
longs of  course  to  the  A  B  C  of  philology ;  but  it 
is  interesting,  inasmuch  as  it  constitutes  one  of 
the  fundamental  laws  of  etymolo^cal  modifica- 
tions. I  should  like  to  give  some  illustrations  of 
the  transmutation  of  liquids  on  a  future  occasion. 

Lewis  Sergeant. 

*  L.  Colonia:  but  Koeln  is  older  than  Cologne, 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


i4!^a.a.iuMtmis,it 


The  following'  curious  and  nmuaing  article  i- 
copied  from 

"  J.  Sabin  &  Sonx'  Ainpri.nn  Itib[i<i|H.lijit.  A  Litcnrv 
KctriHier  anil  Montblv  Calalopie  aT  Old  ami  Kcv  Book :, 
and  Rcpmttnrv  of  >ul«  uiid  ijuvries.  Sew  Yorlt,  Oi- 
tvbrr,  Itfil." 

It  is  worthy  of  prt'StirTntion,  not  only  na  n 
record  of  the  poet,  and  tlie  dii^jwrsion  of  hie  aniall 
but  cheriflhed  collettitin  iif  booka,  but  aUo  aa  n 
racy  sample  of  the  free  iitid  independent  amenitj' 
which  distinfTuishes  our  Auiericnn  booki-ellem. 
Perhaps  sonic  of  j-oiir  Now  York  readera  will  b^' 
kind  enough  to  luforin  us  of  the  deatination  of 
these  volumes,  and  the  Tfllue  at  which  the  "  lite- 
rary treasures  "  \jere  e»tliiinted. 

^  LrTKIlAKY  THKASUItBS. 

"'  Unlearned  men  orUiiokii  OHiiuino  the  oro. 

Aaeunuohiiare  theKuardiansuf  tliefuir/— FiMHy, 

**  Wilh  ■  grtit  Souriali  of  trumpeta  one  of  our  Nev 

Yorkbookacllen  calla  tbc  attenlinn  nf  the  American  pnliliv 

to  a  couple  of  iHKika  whicli  he  has  fur  sale,  and  which. 

-withsink.'ulaTnKakiity',  hcronsiilem-thc  crraleatll 


w  that 


wrl  II, 


Thiy  have  j-et  to  Iram  what  iral  titvrary  Ireasn. 
It  i>  a  matter  rif  conRratuIatimi,  howetfr,  that  ■ 
one  bibliopole  in  in  tlwirmidirt,  whoieKuiihinrc  tin 
accept  without  hwitatiim  in  tbHr  future  rxplonitiuiia 
BfEer'literury  trtii-.u>ni.'  Tbe  two  reritien  to  whiLh  at- 
tenlEon  ia  invite.)  arc  IIuRh  lllair'l  edition  uf  Shake- 
speare, S  volfl.  12nio,  1771,  anri  ''Hie  Wallace  '  bv  IlcnrT 
ito  Minstrel  nr  lllind  llnnry,  .1  viJn  (in  one),  Kimo^ 
1700;  lioth  iH'nrinu  tlie  ■  mniily  (air)  Rulo^TSpli'  of 
Robert  Bums.  The  funner,  we  are  trjil,  was  jiresented 
to  tlio  poet  by  the  iililur:  llic  latter  we  prwnmf  he 
bought,  as  tlie  advirtizieinvnt  nvi  liii<  name  ap]>i'ar.< 
anong  the  li>l  nf  unlwctilicr".  For  llie  sale  of  (he*e  the 
owner  '  ia  pr>'part^,'  lo  lie  Mva,  'to  treat  with  public 
libraries  or  m'ntlenien  »f  tnhte.'  And  be  conlinuep.  '  It 
Is  confidently  aaserled  th^t  no  llterarv  treasure  nf  equal 
importance  baslicretoforcliecn  oflenil  f»r»leon  this  ei^n- 
tlnenu'  And  such  a  b'<nk  an  Itlair'a  Shiiauairr  (eren 
with  Dnms's  auti^'raph  in  it),  thlt  American  lillv  lella 
ni  in  '  the  creati-at  lilerarr  treasuri'  in  Amrrica."  "All  of 
wblrh  •peak*  well  for  Ait  bi1ilia(cra|<hieal  knnwleiluc 

"When  will  nur  bonkwUcnt  leuii  that  Ameriran  ci>I- 
IccUirs  are  nnillier  fanUMTimioramuMKi  that  they  are 
toleiabi);  wdl  vithhI  in  bilJiivrapliT,  and  lliat  they 
eajolcd  by  a  immpuus  a<li 


woniler  that  the  nolili-  pm^iim  ha*  deteriorateil,  and 
that  bnokwIlinK,  wliirh  once  nmkird  almoat  with  llie 
leameil  prafl!fei■l^^  b  now  nwanlial  n  not  much  nHire 
elevated  than  the  reudin;;  uf  {Hitviil  incli>'in>'^." 

jAilKsOlJiSOST. 
33,  Waverlree  R,.a.l,  Liverpi-.l. 

INVESTOIiV  OF  (H)nilS  OF  JOHN  SCOTT. 
The  document  of  which  the  following  is  a  literal 
copy,  except  that  I  have  expanded  the  contrac- 
tions, owes  tU  preservation  to  the  fact  tliat  it  has 
been  put  away  among  certain  olTicial  papers  be- 
longing to  tbc  dioccec  of  Lincoln,  and  has  thus  ! 


I  been  handed  down  in  ths  custodj  of  iiirrilMiitI 
j  bishops  of  that  see. 

I  Of  John  Scott  I  know  nothing  except  wluthii 
inventory  discloses;  namely,  that  he  wu  mmit 
to  Sir  Henry  Cromwell — servant,  I  apprehend,  in 
!  no  menial  sense,  but  rather  something  mppKuA- 
ing  (0  the  fi'udal  retdner  of  earlier  day*.  It  irill 
be  observed  tliat  the  persons  who  valued  hit  gnodi 
are  described  as  gentlemen.  There  is  rciMOn  to 
believe  that  the  valuers — "prayaera"  oe  thej  wm 
termed^- were  commonly  psrsonal  fiienda  or  nb- 
tives  of  the  deceased. 

John  Scott's  master,  Sir  Henry  Cromwell,  is 
tlio  Knight  of  I  line  hi  n  broke,  who,  accordinf  to 
Noble,  died  in  lUO^.  lie  vaa  the  father^Sb 
Oliver  Cromwell,  Knt,  and  of  Robert  Crooiwd^ 
father  of  Oliver  the  Lord  Protector. 

Mv  thanks  are  due  to  the  Itight  Kevemid  tW 
Ijorif  Ilishop  of  Lincoln  for  granting  me  jiium 
sioQ  to  transcribe  the  ori^tu  document, 

KOWAXD  Pkudol 

Bottesrard  Manor,  BHgg. 

"  An  Invcutorve  of  all  ye  goodee  and  Catties  of  Mb 

Scotl,late  Servant  to  ye  rif^lit  worthipfoill  SlrHMj 

Cromwell,  diseased,  made  and  praysed  by  WUa. 

Ulicnye,  John  Turpyn,  and  Cuthbard  PemdMk  ^^ 

tlemen,  the  xv»  dale  of  Aagoil^  1587. 

"  Imprimis  in  ye  IlaU  one  Bramed  table,  two  taam 

S  Iiuffelt  Hto1k'»,  two  toind  cbaires,  a  cubbard,  a  ' 


"  lien 


lainted  clotbci,  &  a 


shdf  'f 
SpotaboU 


....         it  eob»yi«nf 

shuVL-ll,  a  fryeiQge  paun^  a  grydyttBitM 

l>at>']ietle»,  'i  wiinblca,  &  olhcre  ttiuihs  .        ,     v* 

"  Item,  a  npicr,  a  diger,  and  his  appencll       .  B* 

"  Item,  two  small  tuUbes  sod  3  palea         .       .  zt^ 

■'  item,  in  ve  Parlor  one  tmiued  bed,  cjhe  borM  ki<- 

ilol,  t  r.'liestca.  and  two  bile  formes  .    zi^i^* 

"  item,  a  fitherbed,  3  mattiearl,  3  coverletta^  t  btd- 
ilcra,  fuwcr  pillowoii,  and  4  blankctes  .        .    xtof 

"  ItLin,  a  paire  .if  flaxen  shetto,  3  pair*  andaMTrf 
lank-n  Alu'llea,  and  a  lynneu  tester  for  a  bed    ,    >ztf 

**  Item,  3  table  ulolbes,  a  doaen  A  leaven  tabli  ■afkjM 
I  towcllis  anil  n^ne  plllowbcresj  .       ...     if 
"  Item,  ye  painted  clolhea  Ibeire      .       ,       .  s^* 
"  Item,  in  ye  cliainber  above,  one  Imndla  bed  ^ 

others  traidie H^t^ 

"Item,  in  tebaltreyone  braise  potc^  S  kattlka  ul  s 
cliafrin  dishe,  wltb  otbcte  trashe  .        .       .    vj>  Tlf 

"Item,  a  load  uf  bey ^ 

Item,  wiKNie  bi  ve  ranis  and  two  ladder*  zIF' '"' 
Itum,  nCuwc,  a  I'vL'e,  and  two  Lanbe*  xsiU 
-gumma  .        .       .    ^r 
"JuHaTcBmi, 


Ci'BAsn  Paook." 

*  CuiJiiuiis. 

I  The  irons  from  which  vesasla  wars  slaof  ens  ll< 
tire  :  "ij  payre of  cobyrons "  ara  mentloiiad  iathain* 
lury  of  John  Nsvell  of  Paldinanrorth  In  bv  tnsNiriM 

I  I'illoweaMe:  "xiilj  pllb>wbaan^l>v^  aHHkai 
iiivenloiy  of  .liAn  Tliompasoa,  tl  HawlM  BiiMl  tot 
bondman,  1683.    Zturlum  WOk  (SmIw  BsaJ,  C  K 


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Utility  of  Encyclopaedias.— So  far  as  I  am 

aware,  the  strikiDg  coiucideiice  in  the  following 

passages  from  fact  and  fiction,  bearinpf  testimony 

to   the    value   of  encyclopjedias,    hjis   not    been 

noticed,  or,  more  interesting  still,  accounted  for : — 

"  My  father  took  the  book  (tlie  Kncyvh>padla  Britun- 

nica)  off  Sandy's  hands 1  lighted  upon  the  .stored 

book,  and  from  that  time  fur  weeks  all  my  spare  time 
■was  spent  beside  the  client  [containing?  the  book  J.  It  was 
a  new  world  to  me" — Memoir  of  Hoht.  C/tamberSy  1672, 
p.  62. 

•* .  .  .  he  took  down  a  dusty  row  of  volumes  with  grey 
paper  backs  and  dingy  labels — the  volumes  of  an  old 

cyclopsBdia  which  he  bad  never  di:sturbed the 

moment  of  vocation  had  come,  and,  before  he  got  down 
from  his  chair,  the  world  teas  made  new  to  liim  by  a  pre- 
sentiment of  endless  procesAes  tillin<;  the  va.st  spaces 
planked  out  of  his  siprht  by  that  wordy  ignorance,  which 
he  had  supposetl  to  be  knowledge.  .  .' .  P'rom  that  hour 
Lydgate  felt  the  growth  of  an  intellectual  passion.** — 
JnideUemarchj  book  it  March,  1872,  pp.  255,  25('>. 

M.  II.  M. 

Shakespeare:  contemporary  Criticism. — A 
notice  of  the  writings  of  Charles  Ileade  in  Once 
a  Week  of  January  20  last  contains  this  observa- 
tion:— "  With  regard  to  Shakspeare,  contem- 
porary criticism  has  left  but  two  remarks  in  print, 
Doth  of  them  unfavoumble."  I  was  not  aware  of 
the  existence  of  more  than  a  single  contemporary 
leference  to  our  great  bard,  and  should  be  glad  to 
be  informed  where  the  other  is  to  be  found.  The 
one  I  allude  to  is  of  courr»o  the  well-known  dis- 
naiaging  criticism  by  Ilobert  Greene,  the  Eliza- 
bethan dramatist,  poet,  and  novelist :  — 

*•  There  ia  an  upstart  crow  beautified  with  our  feathers^ 
that  with  his  tiger''s  heart 'wrttpt  in  a  player  s  hide,  sup- 
potes  he  is  as  well  able  to  liombast  out  a  blank  verse  as 
the  best  of  you,  and  being  an  al>solute  Johanneif  factotum, 
is  in  his  own  conceit  the  only  Shake-scene  in  a  country.*' 

The  line  in  italics  is  a  parody  of  one  in  3  Henru 
VLL4:-^ 

**  O  !  tiger's  heart  wrappc«l  in  a  woman's  hide," 

irhich  was  taken  from  an  old  play  called  The 
First  Part  of  the  Contetition  of  the  two  famous 
Souses  of  York  and  Lancojiter,  Shakspeare  is 
known  to  have  founded  his  Henri/  f '/.  upon  this 
piece  and  another,  which  are  supposed  to  have 
been  written  by  Greene  or  his  friends,  and  hence, 
no  doubt,  Greene's  acrimonious  remark. 

By  the  way,  has  the  strange  similarity  between 
the  life  and  character  of  Kobert  Greene,  and  that 
of  another  unhappy  son  of  genius,  Edgar  Allan 
Poe,  e?er  been  noticed  ?  These  remarkable  men 
were  both  endowed  with  talents  of  a  very  high 
order,  which  they  lamentably  wasted  and  mis- 
uaed.  They  both  led  lives  of  profligate  indul- 
gence, were  the  slaves  of  brutish  intemperance, 
and  addicted  to  gambling  and  other  vices.  They 
both  died  under  the  age  of  forty,  steeped  to  the 
lips  in  poverty  and  degradation.  Grreene  was 
rescued  from  a  death  of  starvation  in  the  streets 


by  the  charity  of  a  stranger,  who  took  him  to  his 
house  and  tended  him  till  he  died ;  while  Poe, 
being  picked  up  insensibly  drunk  in  a  street  in 
Baltimore,  was  carried  to  a  public  hospital,  where 
he  ended  his  life  two  davs  afterwards. 

II.  -tV.  KE^'KEDY. 
Waterloo  Lodge,  Reading. 

MooRE  AJN'D  Bulwer-Lytton.  —  In  The  Lad 
Days  of  Pompeii  (chap,  v.),  Ghuicus,  the  Athenian, 
is  made  to  say :  — 

"  I  am  as  one  who  is  left  alone  at  a  banquet,  the  lights 
dead,  and  the  llowers  faded.** 

Was  this  borrowed  by  the  author  in  compliment 
to  Moore,  whose  song  "  Oft  in  the  stilly  night " 
contains  the  lines :  — 

"  I  feel  like  one  who  treads  alone 
Some  banquet  ball  deserted. 
Whose  lights  are  fled,  whose  garlands  dead. 
And  all  bat  he  departed." 

The  novel  was  published  in  1834,  nearly  twenty 
years,  I  think,  aifter  the  song;  or  is  the  simile 
older  than  either  ?  Norval  Cltnb. 

Aberdeen. 

Wither  and  Keble. — Norval  Cltne  has 
noticed  (p.  158)  a  parallelism  between  two  Hues 
in  a  song  of  Burns'  and  two  in  a  poem  of  Mr. 
Keble*s.  Let  me  point  out  another  parallelism  in 
the  same  verse  of  that  poem  to  a  stanza  in  one 
of  the  Roundhead  poets.  Wither  wrote  (circa 
1G32) :  — . 

"  Whether  thralled  or  exiled. 

Whether  poor  or  rich  thou  be, 
Whether  praised  or  reviled, 

Not  a  rush  it  is  to  thee : 
This  nor  that  thy  rest  doth  win  thee. 
Bat  the  mind  that  is  within  thee." 

Mr.  Keble's  verse  is  — 

*^  Sick  or  healthful,  slave  or  free. 
Wealthy  or  despised  and  poor, 
What  i^  that  to  him  or  thee  ; 

So  his  love  to  Christ  emlure? 
When  the  shore  is  won  at  last. 
Who  will  count  the  billows  past  ?  " 

W.  M.  D. 

Serjeant.  — "  A  servant — man-at-arms — ^nf" 
fin,^^  Such  are  three  of  the  definitions  of  this 
word,  which  I  lately  observed,  in  a  generally  veiy 
good  and  accurate  dictionary ;  but  as  the  last  is 
new  to  me,  am  I  wrong  in  suggesting  that  segreatU, 
an  heraldic  term  applied  to  a  griffin^  has  been 
mistaken  for  sergeant,  by  the  compiler,  and  then 
transferred  to  ''  seijeanf'  This  seems  the  more 
likely,  as  the  heraldic  term  sejeant  is  elsewhere 
given,  whereas  segreani  is  not.  This  then  wotdd 
be  a  mistake  analogous  with  that  of  saying  that 
Shakspeare  was  written  by  Finis.  S. 

The  Gxtillotine  in  1872. — In  The  Times  of 
March  G.  1872,  in  an  account  of  the  recent  exe- 
cution 01  Joseph  Lemettre,  the  Audresselles  mur- 
derea^'  on  the  Place  de  Marquise,  a  small  town 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i*!'  S.  IX.  Habch  S8,  ^7% 


situated  half-way  between  Boulogne  and  Calais, 
the  following  occurs,  which  may,  perhaps,  be 
worthy  of  a  corner  in  "  N.  &  Q."  : — 

**  Formerly  there  was  an  executeur  des  hautes  auvreg^ 
witli  a  salary  of  l,200f.  a  year,  attached  t)  each  Cour 
(i*Appol  in  Frauce,  which  were  20  in  number,  but  as 
many  of  the  men  of  September  4,  1H70,  were  advocates 
for  the  abolition  of  capital  punishment,  they   availed 
tliemselves  of  their  bein^  in  power  to  get  rid  of  the  fn»il- 
lotines  cither  by  destroying  the  iron  work  nndsellin;;  the 
timber  fdr  firewood,  or  by  burniuf^  them,  as  was  the  ca.se 
in  Paris.    The  various  executioners  having?  been  dis- 
mi>sod,  only  one,  M.  lleinderech,  sometimes  called  by  the 
old  name  Monsieur  de  Paris,  lias  been  re-appointed  with  a 
."^alary  of  CDO  francs  (210/.)»  and  he  will  in  future  have  to 
execute  all  sentences  of  death  throughout  France.    A 
new  guillotine  has  been  made  under  his  personal  direc- 
tions.   The  old  style  of  guillotine  was  a  very  cumbrous 
affair,  mounted  on  a  scaffold  to  which  thirteen  steps,  a 
fatal  number,  gave  access.    The  new  one  stands  on  the 
[.ground,  and  is  much  smaller  than  the  old ;  when  taken 
to  pieces  it  packs  in  the  van  already  referred  to,  togethi-r 
with  the  baskets  and  other  apparatus ;  there  is  a  seat  in 
front  for  three  persons,  and  with  two  horses  the  execu- 
tioner can  go  to  anv  part  of  the  country ;  though  when  the 
railway  is  available  the  van  travels  on  a  truck,  &c   .  .  . 
I^emettrc  turned  to  deliver  himself  to  the  executioner, 
when  an  old  priest  camo  forward  to  wliom  Lemettre  again 
expressed  his  re|)entance,  and  begged  of  him  to  obtain 
his  father's  forgiveness  for  all  the  grief  he  had  caused 
him ;  the  old  priest  bade  him  farewell,  two  of  the  assist- 
ants fastened  him  to  the  table,  another  adjusted  his  head, 
and  like  a  flash  of  lightning  the  knife  fell,  and  with  a  dull 
thud  the  criminal's  head  fell  into  a  basket,  the  time  from 
hLs  parting  with  the  old  priest  to  the  falling  of  the  head 
being  hardly  three  seconds,  to  such  perfection  has  the 
guillotine  been  brought." 

Charles  Masox. 

Of  Gloucester  Crescent,  Il^'de  Park. 

Skinner's  and' Jacob's  Horse.  — In  a  leader 
in  one  of  the  daily  papers  *  lately  appeared  the 
following :  — 

"  Skinner  ('s)  and  Jacob's  Horse  ....  wore  the  hot  eM 
of  galligaskins  and  the  highest  of  boots.  Californian  .  .  . 
gold  was  discovered  by  diggers  in  knickerbockers  and 
lugh  boots." 

As  a  matter  of  fact,  the  Irregular  Suwars  of 
India  have  always  woni  breeches  fitting  edireynehj 
tiijhtly  to  the  lc(j  —  iust  the  reverse  of  knicker- 
bockers. Both  JacoD  s  and  Skinner's  horse  wore 
ligMs,  S. 

American  Eagle. — Yesterday  I  heard  an  odd 
bit  of  American  folk  lore  concerning  the  heraldry 
of  Ivusiisia  and  America.  As  we  were  rowing  down 
the  harbour  from  hence  to  Lyttelton,  on  passing 
an  old  American  vessel,  I  pointed  to  a  Yankee 
the  emblem  of  his  country  painted  on  the  stern 
of  the  ship.  "  Yes,  sir,"  said  he,  *'  at  home  folks 
^ay  the  Russians  gave  us  that.  Russia  formerly 
carried  two  eagles  on  her  flag ;  when  we  gained 
independence  she  gave  one  of  them  to  us,  and  put 
two  heads  on  the  one  she  had  left." 

TnoMAS  II.  Potts. 
•  Ohinitahi,  Xew  Zealand,  Dec.  2,  1871. 

•  JjJii^Tclegraphiieb,  2*2,  18721  ~  ' 


Rev.  Wm.  Baddelet.  —  Wanted,  infomuition 
concerning  the  Rev.  William  Baddeley,  rector  d 
Hayfield,  Derbvshire.  He  lived  about  1756.  He 
took  the  Rev.  John  Wesley's  aide  in  the  zeligioos 
movement  of  the  eighteenth  century.  T.  E. 

"  Bar  LAY." — Am  I  right  in  surmising  that  the 
word  **Barlay,"  used  by  children  in  play  (''Bar- 
lay  this,"  kc.)  is  the  same  that  was  used  by  the 
author  of  Sir  Oaicoi/ne  and  the  Green  £mgktf  * 
and  given  by  Mr.  R.  Morris  t  as  a  corruption  of 
the  aflirmation  ''  by  our  Lady  "  used  in  the  West- 
Midland  dialect,  circa  1360?  t  See  also  the  Glos- 
sary to  ^Ir.  Dyce's  Shaktitpeare.^ 

Broughton,  Manchester.  Th.  K.  TulLT. 

SiK  Raxdolpu  Edwin. — I  should  be  glsd  to 
ascertain  the  parentages,  issue,  and  situatioD  of 
the  estate  of  the  worthy  couple  thus  referred  to  in 
The  London  Magazine  and  Monthly  Chnmologer 
for  1743  (vol.  xvii..  189),  under  the  maniagM 
in  April,  1748 :  ^'  Sir  Randolph  Edwin,  possessed 
of  a  large  estate  in  Hampshire,  to  Miss  Mirift 
Churchill  of  Bond  Street,"  J.  R  CoiK. 

1,  Whitehall  Gardens,  S.W. 

• 

FiEscHi  Family.— Where  can  a  pedigree  of 
the  Italian  (Genoa)  family  of  fleschi  be  sew 
showing  those  members  who  flourished  in  the 
seventeenth  and  eighteenth  centuries  P 

A.  b.  V.  p. 

FouBMONx:  iBRANicom. — Can  any  of  jour 
readers  give  me  some  information  as  to  the  litwuy 
forgeries  of  Fourmont  and  Ibranicotti  P 

H.  A.  Powiii 

St.  John's  College,  Oxod. 

The  French  Ship  L'ORiENT.^Southej,  inhii 
Life  ofXchofif  says  that  when  the  French  adminl'i 
Hag-ship  rOrient  blew  up  at  Aboukir  she  had 
money  on  board  to  the  amount  of  600,00(ML  Wai ' 
ever  any  attempt  made  to  fish  it  up,  as  they  m 
now,  I  believe,  trying  to  with  the  treasorss  of 
the  sunken  Spanish  galleons  in  Vigo  Roads  P  B 
is  well  known  that  during  Queen  Aone's  nign 
coins  were  struck,  bearing  the  word  "  Vigo,"  wft 
part  of  the  bullion  which  was  captured  there. 

P.A.L 

'*  Hand  op  Glory." — In  Grose's  account  of  the 
"  Hand  of  Glory  "  (B-or.  Glossary,  2nd  ed.  1790),  I 

find  these  words — 

"I  have  thrice  ajtsisted  at  the  definitive  jnitoiMStof 
certain  criminals,  who  under  torture  confesMd  hsriig 
u^ed  it." 

*  Specimeru  of  Early  English,  Morrifl,  1867,  p.  W 
bottom  line. 

t  Uid.  pp.  4:56  and  442. 

t  Jbid.  pp.  220  and  2u7. 

§  The  Works  of  iriUiam  Shakenaa^  He  tBit 
revised  by  the  Ke v.  A lexander  Dyctf  186$.  VoL  ix. ^  Mv 
s.  V.  **  i3arley-break.'*  i 


4A  S.  IX.  ilAKCH  23, '; 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Whftt  does  "tbe  definitive  judjrment  of  crimi- 
nals" mean?  Was  not  torture  in  England  done 
awaj  with  long  before  Groae'a  time?  Had  tlie 
"  Hand  of  Glory  "  any  real  power  of  fascination, 
and  did  it  ever  have  the  effect  mentioned  by 
GtOBe— viz.  tbat  of  rendering  people  poweriesa 
to  move  P  n.  S.  Seipton. 

Ti*oli  Cottage,  ChelteBhini. 

Capt.  Henry  Heboit. — In  Scbiller's  Life  and 
Work*,  by  Emil  Fallealce,  translated  by  Lady 
Wallace,  we  are  told  with  regard  to  Lotte  von 
Leagenfeld  that  her  "  heart  was  a  Becond  time 
affected  by  the  devotion  of  a  vary  agreeable  Eng- 
lishmBD,  Captiun  Henry  Heron ;  but  the  duties  of 
his  pmfewion  compelled  Heion  to  go  to  India" 
(ii.  99).  Who  waa  this  gentleman?  He  must 
have  been  a  member  of  one  of  the  branches  of  tbe 
north-country  family  of  that  name.         Cobhub. 

John  Knox's  Psalter. — Bibliograpbic  infor- 
mation regarding  this  paalm  book  would  be  thank- 
fully received  by  the  subscriber. 

Jauds  Millbb. 

Frae  Library,  Paisley. 

Legal  Ibterpretatiom. — 

"These  few  wqrds  coraprehend  Ihe  whols  theory  of 
legal  in  terpr 


BO  vigoroi 

of  which 

poblic  opioion  dcmani 

u  taken  of  an  ioterv 

into  force,  and  it  is  c( 

tnde.     Our  Jadpi 


England.     In  son: 


tg  repeal :  in  otbere,  advinlagfl 
n  which  it  hai  net  been  called 
dered  to  have  ceawd  by  desoe- 
oalfdgt  lU  nalidHy,  but  bLmiBy 


Peter,  Jac 


,    by    Nag! 


.   Engliab 


^midly  ecmpuloua  when  cnn 
Bench."  —  Biographical  SItett 
p.  186. 

There  is  a  Himilar  passage  to  this  in  one  of  the 
Tolumes  of  tord  Camphel  I'a  Lives  of  the  Chancel- 
lor*,  or  of  the  Lord  Chief  Judices.  Can  anyone 
point  out  where  it  occura  p  J.  K.  B. 

Capt.  Samuel  Kino's  Narhativb.  —  Oldys, 
in  his  Life  of  Sir  Walter  Ralegh,  q^uotes  a  mauu- 
acript,  then  in  his  own  possession,  with  the  follow- 
ing title  :— 

-  CaptaiD  Samuel  King's  SaiTative  of  Sir  W.  Ralegh'i 
Ifotives  and  Opportunities  for  conveying  himself  ont  of 
the  Kingdom,  with  (.bs  Manner  in  which  he  vaa  ha- 
trayed."     MS.  2  slieets,  fol.  1C18. 

He  gives  a  few  passages  within  inverted  com- 
maa,  and  these  I  presume  are  the  words  of  the 
original ;  but  ho  much  of  it  is  given  only  in  sub- 
Stance,  that  it  is  impossible  to  guess  what  the 
manuscript  really  contained.  Can  any  of  your 
readers  inform  me  whether  the  original  or  any 
copy  of  it  is  eitant  ?  Mr,  Edwards  refers  to 
it  iir  the  mai^n  of  his  Life  of  Ralegh  as  if  it 
were  in  the  British  Museum.  But  he  does  not 
say  where;  and  aa  I  find  on  inquiry  that  tbe  au- 
thoritiea  tiC,  the  Hnaeam  know  nothing  of  it,  J 


conclude  that'the  reference  is  due  either  to  an 
nrror  of  the  press  or  to  an  imperfect  recollection. 

The  authority  of  Captain  King  is  relied  npon 
for  facts  of  some  importance  with  relation  to 
EUIegh's  proceedings  on  his  return  from  hia  Ust 
voyage— (acta  which  rest  on  his  authority  alone, 


De.  Johk  Owbk's  Pkdi&eke.— In  Orrae'a  Lift 
of  Dr.  John  Owen,  the  theologian,  in  the  short 
sltelch  of  his  pedigree  there  given,  reference  is 
made  for  confirmation  of  a  genealogical  point  to 
a  "  tree  in  possession  of  the  family."  Can  anv  of 
your  readers  t«ll  me  whether  this  tree  is  still  in 
existence  F  and  if  it,  or  any  copy  of  it,  may  be 
seen?  Ctuko, 

Pabliamentart  Compasioss.  —  What  works 
of  a  similar  character  preceded  that  most  usefal  * 
book  Dod's  Parliamentary  Companion,  the  issue  of 
which  for  the  present  session  bears  on  its  tiUe- 
page  the  words  ''  fortieth  year,"  showing  that  its 
nrat  volume  appeared  in  1833  P 

The  dates  and  titiea  of  any  worka  of  similar 
character  might  well  be  recorded  in  "N.  &  Q." 
for  the  beneht  of  those  who  may  have  from  time 
to  time  occasion  to  trace  the  lives  or  histories  of 
any  members  of  either  House  of  Parliament.  1 
transcribe  the  .title  of  one  such,  which   is  now 

"Memoirs  of  Eminent  English  Stateamen:  being  a 
compleU  Biographical  Sketch  of  all  the  Poblic  Chant. 
ters  of  tbe  preeent  Day.  LoLdon  :  Fobliihed  by  Thomas 
TeKg,  No,  111,  Cheapside.    Price  9j.  id.  boardB." 

It  is  a  closely  hut  clearly  printed  12mo,  of  up- 
wards of  600  pages,  and  is,  1  suspect,  one  of  the 
many  compilations  superintended,  if  not  made,  by 
Sir  Richam  Phillips.  It  bears  no  date,  but  was 
issued  after  the  death  of  Pitt,  and  before  that 
of  his  great  rival  —  Fox;  the  last  division  le- 
.corded  in  it  is  that  on  Mr.  Stanhope's  motion 
relative  to  Lord  Ellen  borough's  seat  in  the 
cabmet  on  March  3, 180C.  P.  C.  W. 

Pbovbrb. — What  source  is  the  proverb,  "  The 
cloud   with    the    wlver   lining"    derived   from  P 
Milton  would  seem  to  be  alluding  to  it  in   tbe 
following  passage  in  the  Matqae  of  Comut-; — 
"Wu  I  deceired,  or  did  a  sable  ctood 
Tarn  forth  her  silver  lining  on  tbe  night  ? 

Tom  forth  her  silver  lining  on  the  night. 
And  casts  a  gleam  over  this  toTted  grove." 

Yene.  221  et  $tq. 
JOHX  FlCEEOBD,  M.A. 
Hangate  Street,  Pidtering. 

The  Punjab. — Have  any  lithographs  ever  been 
pnblished  of  the  theatre  of  war  in  1848-^,  in- 
cluding views  of  Hylah,  Bamnuggur,  Gniran- 
walla,  Guiemt,  &c.  P  PathAn. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  [4*^  s.  ix.  maboh  n. ^n. 


The  QcrsES'  at  Temple  Bab.  —  On  the  late 
ThankBgiving  Day,  did  the  Lord  Mayor  at  Temple 
Bar  present  the  Queen  with  the  kei/  of  the  gate, 
as  some  newspapers  stated,  or  with  the  civic  sword, 
as  the  pictorial  papers  represented?         J.  R.  B. 

Rbpeck. — What  is  the  derivation  of  "  repeok/' 
the  name  on  the  Thames  for  the  doubled-spiked 
pole  by  which  a  barge  or  punt  is  moored  P  I 
follow  the  spelling  of  the  Tliames  Conservators, 
bnt  have  also  seen  the  word  spelled  **  ripeck " 
and  "  rypeck."    Can  it  be  tcry^eck  f 

'       W.R  R. 

Windsor. 

'Roman  Tessera.  —  I  have  just  acquired  an 
eighteen-sided  dice,  apparently  of  Roman  manu- 
facture, of  black  marble,  with  the  dots  in  white. 
On  twelve  sides  are  spots  from  1  to  12 ;  between 
each  are  two  letters — N  G  between  1  and  2  ;  S  Z 
between  3  and  4 ;  N  D  between  5  and  G ;  N  II 
between  7  and  8;  T  II  between  G  and  7;  L  S 
between  8  and  5.  1.  Is  it  known  how  such  a 
dice  would  be  used  ?  2.  Can  the  letters  be  ex- 
plained P  J.  C.  J. 

[Tho  oi^liteen-«ided  tessera  rcferretl  to  is  of  (vcrman 
manufacture,  n^htcenth  cviitun',  and  can  be  acquired  at 
any  toy-.shop  throughout  (iiTiniiny,  and  Uiieil  as  a  game 
of  chancts  each  player  contributing  to  pool,  and  drawing 
from  same,  according  to  throw :  —     • 

X  0  =  Nimm  Ganzes  =  Take  whole  yK>ol. 
N  D  =  Almm  Deine.s  =  Take  vour  stake. 
N  H  «=  A  mm  Illilfte  =  Take  half  po<d. 
S  Z  =  Seize  Zu  =  Stake  to  be  resul>scribed. 
L  S  =  Iai^z  Sein  =  Let  alone  =  a  bbink  throw. 

,p  *   ~  7''^V  4b[  =  Thrower  retires  from  game.] 

Equivocal  IlELATioxsnip. — A  man  is  looking 

at  a  portrait,  and  pointing  to  it,  exclaims — 

**  Brotht.TS  and  sisters  have  I  none ; 
But  that  man's  father  is  mv  father's  son." 

Query :  Whose  portrait  is  he  pointing  at? 

G.  II.  Knight. 

[As  already  rcmarkc<U  there  is  more  than  meets  the 
oye  in  this  equivocal  relationship.  See  **N.  d:  Q."  4*'» 
S.  vi.  232,  288.  48«.] 

Royalist  Tokens.  —  We  have  one  of  theSe 
which  liiis  been  kept  ns  a  kind  of  heirloom  in  our 
family  mnce  the  time  of  the  first  Charles,  and  I 
should  like  to  know  something  further  respecting 
them. 

In  the  Reliqum-yy  i.  100,  it  is  stated  that — 

"They  wore  *  used  by  the  adherents  of  the  Stuarts 
during  the  time  of  theGreat  Kebollion.as  an  indication  of 
their  attachment  to  the  Royal  (^ause.'  Watson,  in  his 
IlUtory  of  hlnbeach  (p.  485),  says :  *  It  was  the  custom 
in  those  divided  times,  for  the  partisans  of  King  Charles 
to  carry  certain  tokens  about  with  them,  and  if  all  the  com- 
pany produced  one  the  conversation  became  free.  These 
tokens  consiste<l  in  the  proGle  of  Charles,  engraved  in  the 
manner  of  a  seal,  fixed  upon  a  handle,  to  be  worn  in  thtt 
pocket;  the  seal  bearing  the  impression  of  two  angels 
uniting  the  hearts  of  Charles  and  his  subjects.* " 


It  will  be  observed  that  it  does  not  hen  ilitB 

as  to  how  they  were  used  or  nroduoed  in  oon* 

pany.     Ours  came  to  my  brotner,  Mr.  Thomas 

Chattocky  from  an  uncle  bom  nearly  a  eentuij 

ago,  who  alleged  that  they  were  used  as  tobMSCO- 

stoppers.  Hawkins  Browne  about  that  dme  sang^ 

"  And  thy  pretty  swelling  crest. 
With  my  little  stopper  prest.'* 

And  this  token  appears  to  confirm  the  statementy 
for  the  angels  and  hearts  are  nearly  obliterated  or 
'^  ended  in  smoke."  But  how  if  any  of  the  "  com- 
pany,'* though  good  royalists,  should  have  bem 
unable  to  smoke  ?  Can  your  knowing  readers  add 
anything  further  upon  the  fiubject  of  these  inters 
esting  relics  P  C.  Chattooe. 

The  Seal  of  Pilton  Priory  (formerly  attri- 
buted to  Milton  x\bbey). — I  am  desirous  to 
a-^certain  in  whoi?e  possession  the  matrices  now 
remain  of  the  very  beautiful  seal  of  Pilton  PimuJi 
CO.  Devon.  They  were  found  during  the  last  een- 
I  tury,  it  is  said,  iu  Dorsetshire ;  and  were  for  some 
time  in  the  possession  of  the  Rev.  John  Bowie, 
M. A.,  F.S.A.,  of  Idmeston,  Wilts.  An  en^rranng 
from  their  impressions  was  made  by  C.  HaU  at 
the  expense  of  the  Earl  of  Warwick,  bearing  this 
inscription,  A  Curious  Ancient  Seal  of  some  Rdif^ 
Otis  foundation  of  King  Athelstan.  The  seal  bemg 
attributed,  by  the  llev.  Dr.  Pegge,  to  Milton  Abber, 
CO.  Dorset,  the  engraving  was  inserted  in  Hutchinri 
history  of  that  county  (3rd  edition,  1815,  iv.  281). 
From  the  great  beauty  of  the  workmanship  of 
this  m(munient  of  ancient  art,  it  would  be  a  sub- 
ject of  much  regret  that  it  should  be  lost  sight  o£ 

John  Gouoh  Nichoul 

SoxG  :  "  FvE,  Gae  Rub  Her. "—With  leAr- 
ence  to  this  song.  Bums  writes  (I  quote  from 
Whitelaw^s  Book  of  Scottish  Song,  1843,  p.  388): 

"To  this  day  amonG;  people  who  know  nothiof  of 
Ramsay's  verses  the  following  id  the  song,  and  all  tht 
song  that  ever  1  licard  : — 

'  Gin  yo  meet  a  bonny  lassie, 

Gi'e  her  a  kiM  and  let  her  f;ae  ; 
But  gin  ye  meet  a  dirty  hizzio, 
Fye,  gac  rub  her  ower  wi*  strae. 

Fye,  gae  rub  her,  rub  her,  rub  bar, 
'Fve,  gae  rub  her  ower  wi'  stna ; 
And  R\n  ye  meet  a  dirty  hissie, 
Fye,  gae  mb  her  ower  wi*  strM.'" 

On  this  AVhitolftw  remarks : — 

**  The  tune  of  *  Fye,  gae  rub  her  ower  wf  stne  *  k  ^ttf 
old.  We  see  it  attached  to  one  or  two  Ew^isk  anmiM 
far  back  as  the  beginning  of  the  last  centaiy." 

Now  ib  occurs  to  me  that  the  old  costom  of 
sweeping  the  girls,  noted  b*^  Mb.  Ratgouffb  (p.  18^ 
ante)f  may  possibly  elucidate  the  meaninjc  of  thb 
song,  which  seems  otherwise  unintelU|pble,  «d 
may  perhaps  furnish  a  local  *  habitation  to  ib 


*  Bums  here  writea,  **  are  alwayv  1«M  or  man 
(if  I  may  be  allowed  the  verb)."    Was  he  the  ilcsl  IsM 

this  now  common  word  ? 


4^  S.  IX.  March  23,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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origin.  Would  Mr.  CnArPELL  kindly  inform  me 
of  the  earliest  appearance  of  the  tune  ?  I  should 
be  glad  to  learn  also  whether  the  custom  is  known 
in  Scotland,  and  if  the  language  of  the  song  is  in 
the  Derbyshire  dialect.  ^        W.  F.  (2.) 

Stotte  Tobacco-Pipes.  —  Among  other  stone 
relics  of  the  aborigines  of  North  America,  I  have 
a  tobacco  (?)  pipe,  found  by  a  relative  of  mine 
whilst  digging  a  trench  in  a  "  clearing  '*  in  one  of 
the  primeval  forests  situate  a  few  miles  from 
London,  Canada  West.  The  bowl  of  the  pipe, 
which  is  about  one-and-a-half  inch  deep,  is  orna- 
mented round  the  margin  of  the  mouth  with  seven 
parallel  rings.  The  stem  is  about  two  inches  long, 
but  which  does  not  appear  to  have  been  its  original 
length. 

1  should  be  glad  to  be  informed  through 
''N.  &  Q."  by  what  method  it  is  supposed  the 
stems  of  these  pipes  were  pierced,  as  I  presume 
they  were  made  at  a  period  anterior  to  that  of  the 
Indian's  knowledge  of  the  use  of  iron.  Also, 
whether  the  red  races  who  inhabited  so  northern 
a  region  as  Canada  were  acquainted  with  the  use 
of  tobacco  (Nicotiana)  at  the  time  that  country 
was  discovered  by  Europeans?  or  the  name  of 
any  work  that  treats  on  the  subject. 

•    James  Pkarsok. 

SuwDRY  Queries. — Information  is  requested  on 
the  following  subjects : — 

1.  The  family  of  Bishop  Home  of  Norwich. 
His  father  was  the  Kev.  Samuel  Home,  rector  of 
Otham,  Kent.  Where  did  this  Samuel  come 
from  ?  There  were  Homes  of  Wakefield  and 
Idle,  near  Calverley,  but  I  cannot  find  that  he 
was  of  either  of  those  branches.  There  must  have 
been  a  family  settled  somewhere  else  from  which 
came  Samuel  the  bishop.    If  so,  where  ? 

2.  Where  canl  see  a  full  account  of  the  ancient 
abbey  of  Ramsey,  flourishing  temp.  Ed.  L,  an4  of 
the  lands,  &c.  thereto  belonging  P 

3.  Where  is  there  a  list  of  tlie  military  tenants 
of  Ed.  I.  during  his  Welsh  wars,  those  in  the 
counties  bordering  on  Wales  P    . 

4.  What  is  the  best  history'of  co.  Huntingdon, 
aod  where  to  be  seen  P  James  Higgik. 

Sonny  Hill,  Cheetham  HUl,  Manchester. 

Ettmologt  op  Surnames. — Will  any  of  your 
correspondents  oblige  by  giving  the  etymologjr  of 
the  samames  of  Baines  (Lower  Craven),  Haigh 
(Haddersfield),  Wigglesworth  (the  Humbrian 
basiD) ;  of  the  prefix  At  in  Atkinson ;  and  of  the 
raifiz  AUm  Bomsall,  Heptonstall,  Birstall,  &c.  P 

C.  A.  Fedebeb. 

Bradford. 

Wat  Tyler. — In  Black's  Guide  to  Kent,  and 
UBder  the  heading  of  "Dartford,"  Wat  Tyler,  or 
*'Wat  the  l^ler/'  is  said  to  have  been  an  in- 
luUijitant  of  tut  place. 


"  And  it  was  here  that  his  dau^jhter  received  the  insult 
which  fanned  into  a  flame  the  smouldering  embers  of  dis- 
content." 

.  In  the  Essex  Annual  for  the  present  year  1872, 
article  on  "  Brentwood,"  page  139,  occurs  the  fol- 
lowing : — 

**  It  was  at  Brentwood  where  the  PoU-Tax  insurrection 
was  set  in  flame  by  the  death  of  the  collector  at  the  hands 
of  a  blacksmith,  who  was  enraged  at  the  insults  offered 
to  his  daughter  by  that  ofiicer.'* 

I  know  a  formidable  movement  began  at  Fob- 
bing near  Brentwood,  when  the  people  rose  against 
Thomas  de  Bampton,  one  of  the  ^commissioners 
who  had  been  appointed  to  superintend  the  collec- 
tion of  the  famous  capitation  tax ;  but  I  cannot 
see  how  both  places  can  claim  the  honour  of  Wat 
Tyler's  first  blow.  Can  any  of  your  readers  in- 
form me  on  the  subject  ?  K.  E.  Wat. 

Ill,  Union  Koad,S.£. 

[The  real  facts  of  this  revolt  are  as  follows:  The  in- 
surrection first  broke  out  in  Kent  and  Essex,  on  which 
the  government  sent  certain  commissioners  into  the  dis- 
turbed districts.  One  of  them,  Thomas  de  Bampton,  sat 
at  Brentwood  in  Essex  :  the  people  of  Fobbing,  on  being 
summoned  before  him,  said  that  they  would  not  pay  one 
penny  more  than  they  had  done.  The  threats  of  Bamp- 
ton made  matters  worse,  and  when  he  ordered  the  Serjeants 
to  arrest  them,  the  peasants  drove  him  and  his  men-at- 
arms  away  to  London.  In  Rent  one  of  the  collectors  of 
the  poll-money  went  to  the  house  of  Walter,  or  Wat  the 
Tyler,  in  the  town  of  Dartford,  and  demanded  the  tax  for 
a'  young  maiden,  the  daughter  of  Wat.  The  mother 
maintained  that  she  was  but  a  child,  and  not  of  the 
womanly  age  set  down  by  the  act  of  parliament :  the 
collector  said  he  would  ascertain  this  fact,  and  he  offered 
an  intolerable  insult  to  the  girl.  The  maiden  and  her 
mother  cried  out,  and  the  father,  who  was  tiling  a  house 
in  the  town,  ran  to  the  spot  and  knocked  out  the  tax- 
gatherer's  brains.  The  ^mouldering  discontent  of  the 
rural  population  at  once  burst  into  a  flame,  and  Wat,  as 
if  by  mere  accident,  found  himself  captain  of  the  host, 
June,  1381.] 

WBTHERBr,  Dean  of  Cashel.  — 'I  am  anxious 
to  know  where  Dean  Wotherby  was  buried,  also 
date  of  his  will,  and  whether  any  of  his  descend- 
ants are  still  living.  He  is  stated  to  have  been 
of  Yorkshire  descent.  A  Wethkrbt. 

.Wordsworth's  "  Ode  on  the  Intimatioks  of 
Ikmortalitt.'\ — What  exact  meaning  is  to  be 
attached  to  the  line  in  this — 

"  The  winds  came  to  me  from  the  fields  of  sleep  "  ? 

The  whole  of  the  third  strophe  of  the  Ode  is 
devoted  to  the  outward  aspects  of  spring.  The 
previous  line— 

<*  I  hear  the  echoes  through  the  mountains  throbg," 

suggests  that  the  calm  table-lands  just  below  the 

summit  of  the  Lake  mountains  may  be  viewed  by 

the  poet  as  the  cradle  or* sleeping-place  of  the 

winds;  but  this  meaning  is  harsh.    Again,  the 

lines  speedily  follow — 

"  And  all  the  earth  is  gay ; 
Land  and  sea 
Give  themselves  up  to  jollity.'* 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES-  [4»»' s.  ix.  mahch  m,  71 


Can  the  "  fields  of  sleep  "  mean  the  calm  spring- 
like trnctH  of  ocean  glimmering  away  into  the 
west,  which  thus  becomes  the  home  of  sleep, 
whence  the  evening  breezes  blow  P  I^erhaps,  too^ 
Wordflwnrth  remembered  Homer^s  expression, 
"  the  barren  fields  of  ocean.'*  This  explanation 
would  suit  the  context  ''  land  and  sea,"  but  I  am 
doubtful  if  it  be  correct  Will  some  Words- 
worthian  kindly  explain  the  allusion  ? 

PELAairs. 


Hrpltetf* 

ERLKONIG. 

(4*»»  S.  ix.  138, 187.) 

The  wrong  etymology  usually  applied  to  the 
word  Etikonig  otfers  a  striking  example  of  the 
misleading  conclusions  to  which  a  wrong  transla- 
tion so  frequently  gives  rise.     Herder  seems  to 
have  been  the  first  offender  by  rendering  in  his 
Erlkiinig's  Tochter*  which  is  a  rather  free  trans- 
lation of  a  popular  Danish  ballad,  the  word  EUe- 
konge — i.  e.  "  kinff  of  the  elfs  *' — by  the  coined 
woni  Erlkonig.   The  word  EUe  sieniiies  in  Danish 
both  alder,  alder-tree  (Erie),  and  elf  (Elf,  Eife, 
or  rather  Ett))  ;  and  Herder  was  probably  misled 
by  the  former  signification,  else  he  would  have 
rendered  EUekonge  by  Elfenkonig — i.  e.  "  king  of 
the  elfs."    The  existence  of  an  Erlkonig  is  quite 
unknown  in  the  realms  of  "  spiritual  "  legend  or 
fable,  and  Goethe  has  in  his  celebrated  ballad 
merely  adopted  the  name  coined  by  Herder,  and 
arranged  the  myth  in  his  own  original  manner. 
The  word  Erlkonig  has  also  been  adopted   by 
Heine  in  his  literal  translation  of  the  above-men- 
tioned Danish  ballad.t     From  the    context  fif 
Heine's  observations  on  the  subject  of  "  Elfs,"  it 
can,  however,  be  clearly  seen  that  he  knew  very 
well  that  Erlkiinig's  Tockter  means  the  "  olf-king'a 
daughter " ;  and  it  certainly    speaks    hicrhly   in 
favour  of  the  late  Rev.  F.  W.  Rooertson's  scholar- 
ship that  he  so  accurately  translated  the  (jrcnnan 
Erlkonig  by  "elfin  king."    He  evidently  knew 
what  ho  was  about. 

Finally,  I  beg  to  add  that  people  would  do  well 
to  consult  Grimm  8  Worterhuch  (as  far  as  it  has 
been  published"),  or  the  Worterhuch  by  Sanders, 
before  they  adaress  to  you  any  queries  about  the 
etymolopry  and  signification  of  German  words  j  and 
that  I  allowed  some  weeks  to  pass  before  sending 
you  the  present  hurried  reply  to  the  query  in 
question,  because  I  hoped  that  some  other  corre- 
spondent would  send  you  the  right  information 
who  has  more  leisure  for  similar  communications 
than  I.  C.  A.  Buchhetm,  Ph.D. 

King's  College,  London. 


•  Sec  Herder's  Stimmen  der  Volker. 
t  Heine's  Silmmtl.  Werke^  vii.  ns,  &c. 


GOURMAND:  GOURMET. 
(4»*  S.  ix.  89,  162.) 

C.  A.  W.  appears  to  have  misundentood  the 
object  of  my  article  on  these  words,  which  wm 
simply  to  exhibit  the  curious  phenomenon  of  two 
words  in  the  same  language  of  paimllel,  though 
not  identical  meaning,  almost  similar  in  aoimd 
and  orthocpraphy,  yet  widely  different  in  their 
origin   and   original  associations.     I  traced  np 
gourmand  to  a  Breton  or  Celtic  root  gorm,  staffing^ 
repletion.     Gourmet  I  led  back  step  by  step  to  tiM 
English  groom^  A.-S.  grnna.    If  gourmH  has  in 
modem  times  drifted  mto  the  si^ificaUon  of  t 
connoisseur  in  meat  as  well  as  dnnk,  it  so  iniieh 
the  more  strengthens  niy  case ;  but  I  cannot  fbad 
that  it  is  so,  and  C.  A.  W.  has  given  no  refersnfles 
to  authors  by  whom  it  is  ao  employed.    If  it  be 
so,  it  is  of  very  recent  date.    Manage  (1650)  ex- 
plains gourmet  **  un  homme  ^lu  Be  connolt  ea  vin ; 
et  ensuite,  un  marchand  de  vin ;  lea  maichanda  de 
vin  se  connoissant  aussi  en  yin." 

Cotgrave  (1690-1650)  translates  it  <<  A  wine 
cunner ;  a  wine  merchant*8  broker ;  one  whom  he 
employs  in  the  venting,  and   trusts  with  the 
watchmg  of  his  new-come  commodities.    In  Cai^ 
pentier*s  Sequel  to  Ducange  ^edit  1766)  it  is  inti^ 
preted  *'  Commissionaire,  voiturier,  ou  garde  del 
vins  et  marchandises  pendant  qn'ils  sont  en  roate." 
It  is  thus  clear  that  down  to  the  middle  of  till 
eighteenth  century  gourmet  was  simply  a  meiCBD- 
tile  term.    Since  then  it  has  acquired  the  eenisof 
a  connoisseur  in  wine,  and,  if  C.  A.  W.  be  ooneet 
the  further  meaning  of  a  general  critic  in  good 
cheer,  though  this  sense  must  be  of  very  reeeit 
and  popular  application.    In  this  ezjplsnatioa  I 
am  at  a  loss  to  see  the  ''confumon"  to  whkk 
your  correspondent  refers. 

I  am  not  quite  clear  whether  to  underataai 
C.  A.  W.  as  deriving  gourmand  and  gowrmd  froB 
the  same  root.  None  of  the  references  he  qoolai 
have  the  least  tendency  in  this  direction.  He  iM 
**Oourmer  is  found  m  Ronchi  'to  taste  wiiie^ 
and  Wedgwood  says  it  must  have  meant '  to  eit 
greedily' — and  I  think  so  too.*'  Althoufl^  fH**^ 
of  this  kind  prove  nothing,  yet  it  is  aiwajt  dt" 
sirable  in  quoting  an  author  to  give  his  entf 
words.  Mr.  Wedgwood  does  not  say  what  is  hfl* 
attributed  to  him.  Under  the  head '.'  Gormandui^ 
Fr.  Gounnandf'^  he  says  '*  the  verb  most  have  4ff* 
nitied  to  eat  greedily,  thouj^h  only  preserved  v 
lionchi,  gourmer,  to  taste  wine."  I  nave  diovs 
in  my  previous  paper  that  gomrmer  and  gotrttd 
have  nothing  to  do  with  gormtmdke  ;  the  deiiTS' 
tion  and  history  of  each  word  being  distinct  tai 
clear. 

All  the  illustrations  ouoted  by  0.  A.  W.  tfi 
applicable  to  pourmand  al  e.  Soipe  of  than  M* 
not  a  little  bizarre.  T  v  sodoa  of  dimm  wilk 
gourmand  reminds  one  Oa.  i     i    dtstion  dcmmKif 


4*  S.  IX.  Ualcii  -li 


72.] 


XOXES  AXU  QUEIUES. 


243 


froni  Ji'remifth  Kinfr.  Cucumher=gha-kin-=jernj~ 
kiny  =  Jprtmiah  King.  In  all  etymolo^col  in- 
quiririi  the  main  point  to  determiae  ie,  what  aro 
the  ea-etitial  elements  of  the  root,  and  how  these 
are  nH^cted  by  the  phonetic  cbangee  uiUed 
Grimm's  law.  In  the  word  guurm-and,  Breton 
gomi,  the  essentiala  are  G — r — m,  and  these  are 
not  aHecied  bj  anj  phonetic  chan^  between 
Celtic.  Sanskrit,  Greek,  and  Latin.  Looking  then 
for  the  equivalents  in  these  langTiagea,  we  find  in 
Sani-krit  graedmi,  to  devour,  to  swallow  up ;  in 
Latin  fframen,  ori^nally  "  pabulum,"  connected 
by  Biipp  and  Pott  with  the  Sanekrit.  In  Greek 
we  have  Tpoi'™,  to  gnaw,  referred  also  by  Pott  to 
the  stiniM  root.  In  all  these  we  have  the  samn 
elements,  the  initial  guttural,  the  middle  semi- 
vowel, and  final  nasal  Bounds.  We  hare  then,  ic 
the  Baa- Breton  and  Cymric  gorm,  the  elemenlarj- 
radical  of  gormandize.  Why  need  we  go  further 
and  call  up  an  imaginary  connexion  with  guUet, 
gorge,  clot,  gmird,  &c.,  the  origin  of  which  can  be 
satisfactorily,  traced  to  other  sources  ? 

J.  A,  PlCTON. 
Sandj'kDowe,  Wavertne,  Liverpool. 

I  have  nothing  to  say  on  the  etymology  of  these- 
-words,  which  has  already  been  ably  investigated, 
but  dei'ire  to  cite  one  or  two  passages  which  occur 
to  me,  by  way  of  illustration. 

I  was  aware  of  the  old  and  more  classical  dis- 
tinction between  the  terms — gourmand  indicating 
an  epicure  in  eating'j  gourmet,  so  to  speak,  an  epi- 
cure in  drinking — and  had  noticed  the  modem 
tendency  to  apply  the  former  to  the  man  who 
went  in  for  quantity,  and  the  latter  to  him  who 
more  regarded  quality,  whether  it  were  question 
of  solids  or  liquids.  It  is  difficult  to  sav  when 
the  change  came  about.  You  would  hardly  find 
so  elegant  a  writer  as  Brill at-SnTarin  forgetful  of 
the  original  and  proper  signification : — 

"  .  .  .  .  hs  govmandi  At  Rome  dial!  aguafent,  an 
goQt,  l«  paiaeon  pris  eotro  lea  ponu  de  celni  qui  svait  ei& 
p€eb^plus  bus.  N'en  vovnna-noDS  pas  de  nos  jours  qui 
oot  di<euiivi^rt  U  gaveur' sup^rieure  de  la  caisse  sor  la- 
qodle  la  perdrin  e'appnie  en  dormant  ?  Et  ne  sommes- 
noai  pas  environnA  de  jOHrmrt*  qui  pem'enl  iodiquer  la 
latltade  sons  laqnelle  un  via  a  mnri,  tout  aussi  surement 
qn'un  ilfeve  de  liiot  ou  d'Arago  aait  pr^ire  unetfcUpje  ?  " 
—Fhytloloffit  du  Goiil'.liid.  li.  I 

So  also  Berchoux  calls  Lucullus — 

"  L'Lllastre  gourmand  du  salon  de  Diaue." 

La  Gailra^imie,  Cbant 

and  says — 

".     .     .    .    lea goMrmandi  Mtatits, 
Avec  I'ffiil  de  I'envie  ont  d^vorf  d'avsnea 
La  caille,  I'DTtolan,  la  carpe,  la  Ikitnncc." 


Mt  at  the  bet  of  Voltaire— in  a  wittj  poetical 


epistle  to  the  Sieur  Noel,  his  mallre  dhutcl,  thus 
speaks  of  the  same  Roman  epicure : — 
"  Ce  Lucullus,  rameuit  gourmrl  de  Rome, 
Dans  era  banquets,  au  salon  d'Apollon,  ic."' 

and  says,  a  few  lines  further  on  — 

"Les  fins  povrnKte,  h  table  d^icile^  ^ 

Ne  (onflrent  point  qn'on  ch^ir  gAgotiet 
I   Grostilremeattravaille  &  la  Suiuate."        " 

Coming  down  to  recent  days,  we  could  not 
desire  a  better  authority  than  the  late  Alexia 
Soyer,  himself  a  Frenchman,  a  scholar,  and  a  cook. 
In  a  learned,  curious,  and  most  interesting  wori(, 
this  amiable  man,  speaking  of  beans,  says ; — 

■<  Two  kinds  especially  attracted  the  attendon  of  true 
connoLtseun  ot  that  class  of  govrmli  elect,  whose  p^te 
is  ever  testing,  and  Hbose  sure  tasle  detects  and  appre- 
ciates shades  of  almost  iuiperceptihls  tfnuity." — Tht 
PaJilrofAeoH,  or  Hittery  of  Fuod,  and  il  ^ 
from  (At  tarlit'l  Aga  of  At  V  "  ' 
Svo,  page  SI. 

■While,  in  another  work,  the  two  words  are  ad- 
mirably differentiated,  according  to  their  more 
modem  and  general  acceptation : — 

"S.  You  are  perfectly  right,  my  lord;  the  title  of 
<  Goarmet' belong!  only  to  him  *bo  eats  with  ait,icieace 
and  care,  and  even  itlth  great  care. 

"LoRiiM.  The  'Gourmond'is  never  endtled  to  the 
name  of 'Gourmet';  the  one  eats  without  tasting,  wbilat 
the  other  tastes  in  eating."— Me  (laMlronoixic  Btgtn- 
rafor,  p.  Gil. 

This  is  exactly  the  definition  given  to  me  by  a 
French  friend,  a  professor  of  his  language;  and 
such  assuredly,  whatever  it  may  have  beisn,  tlie 
tyrant,  USB,  no'       

Birmiugbam. 


I  Frepa 

arid.    London,   ] 


(4"-  S.  ii.  162.) 
I  will  attempt  an  explanation  of  the  name  of 
this  river.  Your  correspondent  W.  R.  M.  may 
perhaps  be  shocked  when  I  venture  to  claim  this 
name  as  a  plain  Eoglisb  word — Wily.  I  see  in 
Speed's  Theatre  of  Great  Br^ain  that  in  the  de- 
scription of  Wilts  the  river  is  so  spelt,  whilst  in 
the  accompanying  map  it  is  called  Willff,  an  error 
of  spelling  probably  made  by  the  foreigner  Hon- 


3  engraved  the  i 


I   1610.     I  feel 


rather  nervous  in  not  departing  irom  mere  Eng- 
lish for  the  origin  of  this  name,  fearing  that  some 
enthusiastic  scholar  may  be  down  upon  me  for 
spoiling  some  fanciful  far-fetched  derivation  from 
the  Celtic  or  Keltic,  whichever  this  lately  mutdi- 
«busod  word  really  is, 

The  river  Wily  rises  near  Stourton,  and  runs  a 
course  of  about  thirty  milea  to  join  with  the 
Nadder  and  Avon  rivers  near  Salisbury.  It  gives 
the  name  of  Wilton  to  the  town,  which  is  dtuated 
not  far  from  its  termination,  and  evidently  bj> 
means  of  that  town  also  ^ve«  name  to  the  county 


244 


NOTES  AND   QUERIES.  [*•»•  S.  IX.  March  28,  -TS. 


of  Wilto-thus  Wilyton,  Wilton,  Wiltonshire,  j 
Wiltshire.  i 

The  Stoiir  river  rises  very  near  to  the  Wily  at  , 
Stourton,  and  passes  through  Dorsetshire,  lioth  ' 
of  these  nvers  are  alluded  to  by  Spenser  in  the 
Faerie  Queene  (canto  xi.  p.  240,  ed.  1617),  where 
is  described  tlft  procession  of  rivers  to  *'  that  great 
banquet  of  the  watry  gods "  in  "  l^teus  hall," 
"  Where  Thames  does  the  Medway  wed  " : — 

*' And  thert>  came  Stoure  with  terrible  aspect, 
Bearint;  lii.«i  sixe  deformed  heads  on  hie. 
That  does  his  course  through  IMandford  plains  direct, 
And  washeth  Winbournc  meads  in  seasons  dric. 
Next  him,  went  Wyliboume  with  passa<]^e  slye, 
That  of  his  wvlinesse  hid  name  doth  take.. 
And  of  himxelfe  doth  name  Lh*e  shire  thereby: 
And  Mole  that  like  a  nousling  mole  duth  muko 

His  way  still  underground,  till  Th.amis  he  overtake.** 

The  "  wylinea'*e  "  of  this  river,  which,  accord- 
ing to  Sponger,  gave  rise  to  its  iiiimo,  may  mean 
eitner  or  both  of  two  facts — 1.  For  several  miles 
in  the  upper  part  of  its  course  any  river  is  in  vain 
looked  for  during  several  months  of  the  year ;  for, 
in  common  with  the  Bourne  and  other  Wiltshire 
streams,  the  channel  is  then  quite  dry.  2.  The 
'*  wvlinesse  "  mav  consist  in  the  fact  of  the  stream 
disappearing'  (like  the  Mole)  underground  for  some 
distance,  and  then  appearing  at  Dcverill  villages. 

Sir  Richard  Colt  Iioare,  describing  this  river  in 

the  History  of  Ancient  Wiltshire  (p.  i)G),  writes: 

"The  true  and  original  source  of  this  stroain  is  but 
little  known,  and  has  not  been  duly  n(>tiee<I  in  our  l.ir^c 
map  of  the  county,  for  it  is  here  marked  as  rising  in  the 
parish  of  Kingston-Deverill,  whereas  its  real  source  lies 
much  farther  to  the  westward,  and  in  the  adjoining 
county  of  Somerset.  This  circumstance  would  have 
escaped  the  observation  of  the  most,  accurate  geographer 
if  he  had  made  his  sur^•ey  of  this  district  in  the  summer 
months,  for  during  that  season  there  is  no  appearance 
of  a  river  till  you  come  to  the  villages  of  the  Deverills. 
The  Wily  ris&*  from  a  perennial  spring  called  Bratchwell, 
in  the  parish  of  Kilmington,  adjoining  to  that  of  Stour- 

ton Wc  now  come  to  the  lirst  village  bearing  the 

name  of  Dcverill — a  corniption  from  DiveriU,  and  ac^ 

Suired  by  the  eccentric  character  of  this  spring,  whi(;h 
uring  the  summer  months  takes  a  subterraneous  cour^e, 
and  appears  as  a  permanent  stream  only  at  Kingston- 
Dcverill.  In  the  verjidry  autumn  of  1787  it  ceased  to 
flow  in  this  and  tho  adjoining  parish  of  Monkton-Dcve- 
rilly  and  burst  forth  in  that  of  Brixton-Deverill." 

The  river  Mole,  which  is  associated  in  Spenser's 
verse  with  the  Wily,  is  in  Surrev,  as  is  doubtless 
well  known  to  most  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q.,"  for  it  has 
obtained  the  notice  of  several  poets  besides  Spen- 
ser, and  foremost  of  all  that  of  Milton,  who,  in 
one  of  his  occasional  poems,  writes — 

"  The  sullen  Mole  that  runneth  underneath," 

a  line  altered  by  Pope  in  his  "  Windsor  Forest  '* 
into— 

"  And  sullen  Mole  that  hides  his  diving  flood." 
Marvellous  account?  of  the  Mole's  peculiar  va- 
garies may  be  found  in  Camden's  Britmmiaj  also 
•in  Aubrey's  Surrey  (iv.  172).    Aubrey  describes 


it  as  the  river  ''  Swallow/'  and  gives  some  intei^ 
esting  particulars  of  a  great  sinking  cf  the  earth 
for  a  considerable  distance  near  one  of  the  ''  swal- 
lows ''  or  holes  in  the  ground  wherein  the  water 
sinks.  In  dry  summers,  Aubrey  writes,  ''one 
may  ride  in  the  channel  as  in  a  lane."  In  Salmon's 
Antiquities  of  Surrey  (p.  07)  are  some  interesting 
anecdotes  about  these  ''swallows."  In  Mannings 
History  of  Surrey,  vol.  i.  (Introduction,  p.  iii)  an 
explanation  of  these  river  phenomena  is  offered, 
and  in  the  article  on  **  Surrey  "  of  the  Penny  Cy^ 
dopctdia  a  iiimilar  one  is  given.  The  likeness  of 
the  cases  of  the  Wily  and  Mole  will  be  apparent, 
and  I  think  the  origin  of  the  name  of  each  river 
may  be  seen  without  looking  beyond  plain  £ng- 
li:*h  language.  A.']>.  MiDDLSioir. 

The  Close,  Salisbury. 

Permit  me  to  anticipate  the  second  edition  (now 
in  the  prens)  of  my  book,  Traces  of  Hidory  in  the 
Names  of  Places,  in  which  W.  R.  Al.  will  ^d  the 
7(7/  cla^^s  of  names  treated  at  some  length.  Briefly, 
I  take  Wil-ea  and  Wil-tun  (now  conliptly  writtoi 
Willy  and  Wilton)  to  be  the  water  and  the  town 
of  the  Wil,  Wyl,  or  Wilt  tribe,  whose  aetu  or 
tribe  station  gave  name  to  Wilsetu-scyre,  now 
Wiltshire.  Parallel  cases  are  found  in  Dor-setu 
and  Sumor-sctu,  now  Dorset  and  Somerset  shires. 
Sir  Thomas  More  gives  the  name  as  Wylsbire^^ 
and  Ethel  ward  (^Chronicle,  cap.  ii.)  calls  the  dis-' 
trict  **  the  province  of  Wilscetum,"  and  the  people 
<'  Wilsetae.^'  Bede  mentions  the  Wiltes  as  settled 
on  the  Lower  Rhine.  Wil  seems  to  be  Saxon,  not 
Celtic.  Flavell  EdmtniMw 

Hereford. 

"OUR  KING  HE  WENT  TO  DOVER." 
(4«»»  S.  ix.  170.) 

I  send  a  transcript  of  this  old  ballad  from  ''John 
Gamble's  Musick  Book,"  a  curious  MS.  of  the 
middle  of  the  seventeenth  century,  in  my  posses- 
sion. It  is  found  in  several  old  poetical  collection% 
the  earliest  being  (as  far  as  I  Know) — 

**  Le  Prince  d'Amour,  or  the  Prince  of  Lore :  with  a 
Collection  of  Songs  by  the  Wits  of  the  AfQ,  IMO** 
8vo. : — 

**  Our  king  he  went  to  Dover, 
And  iM>  he  left  the  land, 
And  so  his  grace  went  over 

And  so  to  Callicc  sand ; 
And  so  he  went  to  Bullin 

With  soldiers  strong  enough, 

Like  tho  valliant  King  of  CulUn, 

O  Anthony,  now,  now,  now ! 

"  When  he  came  to  the  city  gate 

Like  a  royal  noble  man. 
He  coqM  not  abide  their  prate, 

Dut  be  call'd  for  the  Lady  Nan ! 
He  swore  that'  he  would  have  her 

In  all  her  maiden  pride,  he  tfd  wtm 
Their  stroog  walla  riiovld  net  warn  hm, 

O  Anthony,  now,  now, 


4a  S.  IX.  IUbcr  23,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


245 


**  Tantarra  went  the  trumps, 

And  dab-adub  went  the  guns, 
The  Spaniards  f<elt  their  thumps. 

And  cry'd  '  King  Harry  comes ! ' 
He  batter'd  their  percuUis, 

And  made  their  bolts  to  bow. 
He  beat  their  men  to  Acculus^ 

0  Anthony,  now,  now,  now ! 

'*  King  Harri'  laid  about  him 

With  spear,  and  eke  with  sword. 
He  car'd  no  more  for  a  French  man 

Than  I  do  now  for  a  lord ! 
He  burst  their  pallasadocs 

And  bang'd  them  you  know  how  ; 
He  strapt  their  canvassadoes, 

O  Anthonj',  now,  now,  now  ! 

*  Up  went  the  English  colours. 

And  all  the  bells  did  ring  ; 
We  had  both  crowns  and  dollars. 

And  drank  healths  to  our  king 
And  to  the  Lady  Nan  of  Bullin, 

And  her  heavenly  angeKs  brow  ; 
The  bonfires  were  seen  to  Flusbin, 

O  Anthony,  now,  now,  now  ! 

"  And  then  he  brought  her  over, 
And  here  the  queen  was  crown'd, 

And  brought  with  joy  to  Dover, 
And  all  the  trumps  did  sound  ; 

And  so  he  came  to  London, 
Whereas  his  grace  lives  now : 

*Good  morrow  to  our  noble  king,*  quoth  I, 

*  Good  morrow,'  quoth  he,  *  to  thou '; 
And  then  he  said  to  Anthony, 

*  O  Anthony,  now,  now,  now  ! ' " 

Edward  F.  Rivbault. 


Monastic  Librabies  (4'»  S.  ix.  200.)— W.  W. 
will,  I  think,  find  some  information  on  the  sub- 
ject of  his  inquiry  in  Bernard's  Lihrorum  Manu- 
»criptcrum  Acadeinianmi  Oxonierms  et  Canta" 
hrigiensiSj  et  Celehrium  per  Anglxam  Hibemiamque 
B^Hothecarum  Catatogus,  Oxon,  1696-7 ;  two 
parts  in  one  volume,  containing  upwards  of  one 
thousand  pages.  E.  C.  Harington. 

The  Close,  Exeter. 

"  Mt  Thoughts  abb  racked  "  (4**"  S.  ix.  57, 
167.) — The  verses — extending  to  twenty-four  lines, 
and  headed  **  Verses  for  my  Tombstone,  if  ever  I 
should  have  one'' — in  which  the  line  quoted 
occurs,  appeared  on  p.  7  of  a  pamphlet.  The  Great 
Sin  of  Great  CitieSj  published  in  London  by  '*  John 
Chapman,  142,  Strand,  1853,"  bein^  the  reprint  of 
an  article  from  the  Westminster  Mevieto  for  July, 
1850.  S. 

Db.  Wm.  Strode  (4**'  S.  ix.  77, 146.WThe  ad- 
ditional stanzas  to  Dr.  Strode's  beautiml  epigram 
are  well  known.  I  can  give  an  earlier  authority 
for  them  than  Dryden's  Miscellany  Poems,  They 
are  found  in  a  rare  little  volume  entitled-* 


*'The  Kisses,  with  an  addition,"  are  found  on 
p.  68. 

The  authorship  of  this  collection  of  poetical  effu- 
sions is  attributed  to  Richard  Veale,  but  his  claim, 
seems  very  doubtful,  although  he  certainly  was 
the  publisher  or  editor  of  the  volume.  It  is  de- 
dicated "To  my  ingenious  Friend. Mr.  T.  D.," 
from  which  epistle  it  appears  that  this  person 
was  the  author  of  most  of  the  pieces  in  the  book. 
I  extract  the  following  passage :  — 

"  But,  while  I  desiini  a  Dedication  and  a  retnm  of  my 
Thankfl,  I  most  not  persist  in  a  style  bo  ingrate,  as  (I 
know)  this  ifl,  to  a  Man  of  your  Temper.  AU  that  I  now 
b^  of  you  is,  That  you  will  be  pleased  to  excusa  those 
Errors  which  (I  fear)  may  be  committed,  either  in  Tran- 
scribing];^, or  Printing  those  things  of  your8,  which  (I  am 
assured)  otherwise  can  have  no  fault :'  and  to  pardon  me^ 
that  I  expose  to  th-  World  in  Publick,  what  3'ou  write 

for  your  Private  Divertisement,  and  in  a  Particular  Con- 
«• 


cem. 


«i 


New  Court  Songs  and  Poems.  By  R.  Y.,  Gknt.  Lon- 
don :  Printed  for  R.  Paeke  at  the  Stationers*  Arms  and 
Ink-BottJe  in  Lombard  Street,  and  W.  Cademan  in  the 
Lower  Walk  of  the  New  Szehange.  1672." 


This  is  followed  by  an  address  '^  To  the  Reader," 
and  a  copy  of  verges  **  To  Mr.  T.  D.  on  his  Ingeni- 
ous Songs  and  Poems."  T.  D.  may  mean  Thomas 
Duffet,  or  Thomas  Durfey.  I  am  inclined  to 
think  the  latter. 

The  volume  contains  a  number  of  interesting 
songs — some  sung  at  the  "Duke's  House,"  the 
"Academy  in  St.  Bartholomew's  Lane,''  the  "An- 
nual Musick-Meeting,"  &c.  I  may  remark  that 
in  Perry's  Catalogue  the  authorship  of  this  work 
is  attributed  to  Robert  Vaughan,  certainly  the 
very  last  person  we  could  imagine  to  have  had 
anything  to  do  with  its  contents. 

Edwabd  F.  RnCBAlTLT. 

Claws  op  Shell-Fish  (4^  S.  ix.  57.)— On  the 

evident  authority  of   the  superintendent  of  the 

Crystal  Palace  Aquarium,   a  writer  in   AU  the 

Year  Round  of  March  2, 1872,  p.  320,  in  an  article 

intituled  *'  Under  the  Sea,"  says — 

^  One  noticeable  point  in  the  physical  organisation  of 
the  lobster  is,  that  should  one  of  its'  legs  become  injured, 
the  lobster  immediately  drops  it  off,  the  point  of  sever- 
ance being  at  the  last  joint  close  to  the  body  ;  no  bleeding 
ensues,  for  a  skin  immediately  forms  over  the  stump,  and 
a  new  limb  then  begins  to  grow." 

Mr.  Boxtchieb  would  no  doubt  obtain  all  the 
information  he  requires  from  Mr.  Lloyd,  of  the 
above  aquarium.  Thos.  Ratclipfb. 

Unicorns  (4*»»  S.  ix.  119.)— Whatever  the  head 
exhibited  in  London  may  have  been,  the  horn 
which  adorned  it  must  have  been  that  of  the  sea- 
unicorn,  or  narwhal  {Monodon  monoceros),  pro- 
bably joined  neatly  to  the  front  of  the  neaa  of 
some  kind  of  horse.  The  stuffed  mer- maidens 
and  mer-men  which  were  carried  about  and  ex- 
hibited by  men  of  the  pedlar  type,  got  up  as 
sailors,  twenty  or  thirty  years  ago,  were  probably 
of  the  same  dass.  The  fabulous  monsters  which 
used  to  be  taken  abont  the  country  and  exhibited 
to  the  unlearned  have  of  late  years  greatly  di- 
minished in  number.    Erea  the  performing  cana- 


•     m- 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*k  S.  IX.  Hamh  S8,  "71 


lies,  the  educated  hare,  and  the  reet  have  deserted 
lis.  I  remember  the  feeliDgs  of  awe  with  which  I 
was  taken  when  a  child  to  see  '^  the  tortoiseshell 
woman,"  **  the  petrified  man,"  "  the  sand-dogs  of 
the  desert,"  &c.  Fat  women,  giants,  and  dwarfs, 
however,  still  visit  us,  but  the  wandering  glass- 
blower  who  used  to  make  ships  and  globular 
magnifying  glasses,  and  who  spun  elass  before  our 
eyes,  comes  no  more.  However,  there  are  to  be 
seen  in  Belfast  at  this  moment  ''Two  sea  leo- 
pards, male  and  female,  alive,  captured  by  the 
captain  of  a  ship  in  the  German  Ocean,  and  brought 
by  him  into  Liverpool.*' 

Mrs.  Leadletter  mentions  in  her  Annals  of 
BalUtore  a  specimen  of  the  ''fabled  mandrake," 
which  was  carried  by  a  Jew  for  exhibition  to 
Ballitore,  but  while  the  cook  was  giving  the 
wanderer  his  dinner,  one  of  the  servants  opened 
the  case  in  which  the  mandrake  was  exhioited, 
and  found  that  it  had  been  manufactured  by  com- 
bining cleverly  the  skeleton  of  a  frog  with  the 
fibrous  roots  of  some  plants  However,  the  Jew*s 
secret  was  respected,  and  though  his  deceit  was 
known,  he  was  allowed  to  go  in  peace. 

W.  H.  P. 

In  Dugdale^s  Monasticon  there  is  a  list  of  all 
the  gold  and  silver  plate  delivered  to  King 
Henry  Will,  from  the  stores  and  treasures  of 
monastic  houses.  Among  the  plate  from  Glaston- 
bury, delivered  to  him  on  May  15,  1539,  a  curious 
relic  is  thus  entered : — 

'*  Item,  dclyvered  more  anto  his  maiestie  the  Rame  day 
of  the  same  stuH'a  greate  peoe  of  a  iinicorne-honie,  as.it 
is  supposed.'* — Monasticon,  Bobn,  1810,  i.  65. 

W.  A.  S.  R. 

"With  Helmet  on  his  Brow  "  (4^  S.  ix.  16, 
99,  168.)— The  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q.''  may  rest 
assured  that  this  air  was  not  composed  by  Joseph 
Mayseder,  the  popular  German  violinist.  He 
simply  arranged  the  air  as  a  '* rondo'*  for  his 
instrument  The  words  were  not  Tcritten  by  G. 
W.  Reeve,  who  was  a  musician,  not  a  poet. 
Having  devoted  many  years  to  the  study  of  na- 
tional mu^ic,  I  am  certain  that  the  air  of  "Le 
petit  Tambour  "  is  French.  It  has  none  of  the 
English  character  about  it,  and,  if  possible,  less  of 
the  German.  The  characteristics  ot  national  music 
is  an  interesting,  but  a  very  difficult  study.  I 
venture  to  think  that  none  but  scientific  musicians 
can  possibly  have  a  voice  in  the  matter.  AVe 
want  a  pood  book  upon  the  subject,  whiclir  has 
been  so  well  commenced  bv  Mr.  Carl  Engel  in  his 
IntroductUm  to  the  Study  qf  National  Music.  I^ong- 
mans,  1860,  8vo.  Edward  F.  IIimbault. 

"NeC  bene  fecit,  NEC,"  ETC.  (4*"  S.  ix.  180.)— 
In  a  little  book  entitled  Facetia:  Cantahrifficnues 
(London,  1825,  p.  l;U),  the  story  is  told  of  Porson, 
and  is  given  as  a  proof  of  his  acute  and  extraor- 
dinary talents  at  an  early  age : — 


**  When  at  a  pablic  school  the  following  snbfeet  Isr  a 
theme  was  banaHl  to  Porson  by  the  mtstAr  :— 

'  Ciesare  ocdso^  an  Bratns  benefidt  aat  malefidt? ' 
'*  A  game  being  proposec],  he  Joined  the  sports  among 
the  rest  of  the  scholan,  and  the  theme  was  fbrigotteii. 
When  called  upon  for  his  performance  he  was  astoniiiied, 
on  reference  to  his  writing-fdio,  to  find  it  quits  anpn- 
pared ;  the  call,  however,  was  imperative,  and  the  mo- 
ments  but  few  and  precious — inde^  so  ftw  as  to  prednde 
the  possibility  of  a  laboared  article ;  and,  snatching  op  a 
pen,  he  scrawled  the  following,  which  be  handed  to  the 
master,  and  which  was  received  with  no  small  sarpilae, 
though  with  infinite  satisfaction : — 

*  Nee  Aene-fedt,  nee  mo/e-fedt,  aed  interfecit'  " 

As  Porson  was  undoubtedly  a  wit  in  the  highest 
and  truest  sense  of  the  term,  there  is  nothing  im- 
probable in  the  story;  but  as  I  have  not  Mr. 
Watson's  book  to  refer  to,  I  cannot  of  coune  wy 
what  his  reasons  are  for  not  attributing  the  pan 
to  one  who,  all  through  life,  was  remarkable  for 
smart  sayings  and  witty  repartees. ' 

R.  W,  H.  Nash,  RA. 

Dublin. 

Umbrellas  (4**'  S.  viii.  passim :  ix.  97.)— The 
following  curious  account  of  the  inteoductioii  (tf 
the  umbrella  amongst  the  uncivilized  peo^  of 
Papua,  or  New  Guinea,  at  Eatan  on  the  ponth 
Coast,  July  1871,  occurs  at  p.  33  in  the  JoMmo/of 
a  Missionary  Voyage  to  New  Guinea  by  the  BevB. 
A.  W.  Murray  and  S.  Macfarlane  justpuhEshed: 

**  As  at  Saibai,  the  umbrellas  were  objects  of  special  in- 
terest, so  much  so  that  we  could  not  resist  the  temptatke 
to  leave  them  with  the  people.  One  was  given  to  tts 
chief,  and  the  other  to  another  man  of  impoitanes^  and 
the  demonstrations  that  followed  the  small  gift  wen 
amusing  indeed.  One  grand  difficulty,  howew,  soon 
checked  their  joy,  the  umbrellas  were  opened  and  eoaUi 
not  be  shut  again,  although  we  had  repeatedly  opened  and 
shut  them  amid  roars  of  laughter.  At  length  on*  fbr* 
tunate  fellow  discovered  the  secret,  and  was  rewarded  1^ 
the  loud  acclamations  of  the  bystanders." 

JOSIAH  MnxiB. 

Newark. 

Panadk  or  Pavade  (4'*'  S.  ix.  18L)— I  begfo^ 

refer  Mr.  Furnivall  to  Bailey *s  Dtctumory  ~~^ 

"  Pannado,"  "  thecurvettingorprandngofani 
horse."    The  root  may  be  Anglo-NormaUi  for 
word  survives  in  French,  as  se  panader,  **to  fltrat^ 
to  walk  in  a  stately  haughty  manner."    It  is  n-' 
lated  to  sc  pavaner,  cf.  paon, ''  the  strutting  IkeiM^* 
and  jyaviuy  "  a  grave  and  stately  dance."    Hen  IB 
i  the  V  that  mt^a^panade  convertible  into^MiRHd^M 
I  Tyrwhitt  found  it     I  take  it  for  certain  that  tbs 
I  Miller's  *'  panade  "  was   a   laive,   conspidioaBy 
flourishing  sort  of  weapon  of  uie  sword  kin^ 
Ilemembcr  the  claymore  or  ''big"  sword  thit 
figures  in  the  Gaelic  sword-dance. 

The  Miller  of  Trumpington  wis  well  UOM^ 
There  was  the  long  nanadej  "  and  of  a  sword  M 
trenchant  •  was  the  blade  " — a  "  joUy  popper|'*ii' 


Compare  tnmidier  with  fmu 


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247 


a  "  Sheffield  wliittle."    Furtlier,  all  these  articles 
are  defined  as  "  a  panade,  knife,  and  bodkin." 

The  panade  was  certainly  a  sword  ;  the  popper 
or  bodkin  was  a  dagger,  serving  also  as  a  fork ; 
the  whittle  was  a  knife,  for  a  puest  carried  his 
own  table-cutlery  in  those  days.  Of  these 
three  articles,  the  popper  or  bodkin  would  now 
be  classed  as  a  poniard.  The  word  is  taken 
directly  from  pugio^  and  is  quite  different  from 
panart.  The  panade  or  panart  was  a  cutting 
weapon — "grand  couteau  a  deux  taillans  " ;  the 
poniard  is  a  stabbing  weapon.  A.  II. 

O'Dohertt's  Maxims  (4^'»  S.  vui.  513;  ix.  182.) 
I  am  at  a  loss  to  see  what  your  correspondent 
means  by  stating  that  these  aphorisms  have  been 
published  in  a  separate  form.    Granting  that  they 
were  so,  and  that  I  was  unaware  of  it,  it  is  not 
said  that  the  separate  publication  contained  any- 
thing additional  to  what  the  magazine  bore  on 
the  subject  of  this  discussion,  or  different  from  it. 
With  deference  to  Mr.  Bates,  I  cannot  agree 
with  him  in  regarding  O'Doherty's  rules  which 
he  quotes  as  so  very  powerful  for  their  professed 
purpose.     They  are  not  like  the  replies  which  I 
mentioned  as  gi^n  by  the  punsters — clever,  and 
done  at  once  without  premeditation — but  require 
the  replicant  to  pretend  to  be  deaf,  to  need  a  little 
nicety  as  to  the  proper  time  of  utterance,  the 
co-operation  of  a  confederate,  and  other  devices 
equally  clumsy  and  vulgar,  and  by  no  means  fair. 
Nay,  he  does  not  scruple  to  designate  his  specific 
as  resembling  the  tricks  of  a  juggler,  while  it 
seems  pretty  obvious  that  if  the  answers  given  to 
my  friend  were  made  to  any  one  using  O'Doherty's 
shabby  scheme,  but  not  until  he  had  said  and 
taken  credit  for  the  whole  of  it,  it  would  have 
told  as  severely  as  did  these  answers.  In  the  refer- 
ence to  Swift,  there  is  introduced  a  point  of  inter- 
rogation, which  I  must  suppose  is  the  Editor^s  of 
''S".  &  Q./'*  for  it  cfi&not  surely  be  your  corre- 
spondent's, by  whom  the  passage  is  complimented. 
The  interrogation  seems  to  imply  a  doubt,  and 
many  will  concur  with  it,  whether  Swift  could  be 
guilty  of  such  puerility.  G. 

Kdwbargh. 

Daitforth  (4^  S.  ix.  180.) — ^This  name  is  a 
corruption  of  Danford  or  Denford  =  the  ford  of 
the  Ban  or  Den ;  literally,  the  ford  of  the  water. 
Conf.  Denford,  co.  Northampton;  Danthorpe, 
Danb^,  Denby,  co.  York ;  Danbury,  Essex ;  also, 
the  nver  names  Don,  Danube,  Tavou,  Tawa,  Ton. 

R,  S.  Charnock. 

Gray*8  Inn. 

"  Sugar  "  (4»«>  S.  ix.  161, 189.)  —  The  story 
attributed  to  the  elder  Pitt  (not  then  Earl  of 
Chatham)  is  well  known.  Lord  Ltttelton's 
reply  does  not,  however,  deal  with  the  essential 

""  [*  Not  the  Editor's.] 


portion  of  J.  L.  0.*s  interrogatory,  "  the  date," 
namely, "  of  the  delivery  of  the  speech."  Brougham 
gives  no  date,  real  or  supposed,  neither  does  he 
attempt  to  verify  the  circumstance  as  an  actual 
occurrence.  He  only  says,  "  We  have  the  anec- 
dote upon  good  traditional  authority,"  and  that 
^^  it  was  believed  by  those  who  had  the  best  means 
of  knowing  Lord  Chatham,"  a  form  of  testimony 
which  Lord  Brougham  well  knew  would  not  be 
received  as  evidence  in  a  court  of  justice.  It  might 
be  interesting  to  learn  whether  this  story  rests 
upon  any  kind  of  foundation,  or  if  it  be  purely 
fictitious.  J.  C.  EoGER. 

Temple. 

My  father  has  often  told  a  story  of  Mr.  Pitt 
(Lord  Chatham),  who,  when  speaking  as  I  sup- 
pose on  the  West  Indian' Sla?e  question,  began  his 
speech  with  "  Sugar,  Mr.  Speaker,"  thereby  not 
unnaturally  eliciting  a  roar  of  laughter  from  the 
house.  Nothing  daunted,  Mr.  Pitt  began  again 
with  the  same  words — *' Sugar,  Mr.  Speaker.'' 
The  laughter  was  renewed,  but  not  so  vehemently. 
A  third  time  Mr.  Pitt  reiterated  the  same  formula 
in  a  voice  of  thunder,  turning  round  about  with  a 
look  which  efifectually  stopped  any  further  dis- 
play of  risibilitv,  and  amid  perfect  silence  con- 
tinued his  speech  in  triumph.  The  authorship  of 
the  speech  may  enable  J.  L.  0.  pr  any  one  who . 
has  more  time  and  opportunity  than  I  have  to 
determine  the  date  and  occasion  of  it  F. 

Bows  m  Bonnets  (4*»»  S.  ix.  37, 184.)— It  was 
the  fashion,  at  any  rate  so  far  back  as  eighty  years 
ago,  for  single  ladies  to  wear  the  bows  in  their 
bonnets  on  the  left  side  of  the  head;  married 
ladies  wore  them  on  the  right  side ;  and  widows ! 
they  wore  a  large  spread-out  bow  in  front,  on  the 
top  of  their  bonnets,  stretched  out  on  wires  to  look 
the  larger.  Thos.  Ratcliffe. 

The  Lokd  Boqtjeki  (4*^  S.  ix.  74, 169.)— The 
name  of  Dr.  Bokanki  (whoever  he  might  be)  was 
constantly  used  in  my  early  days  (about  forty-five 
years  ago)  to  frighten  refractory  children.  I  can 
well  remember  how  effectual  it  was  in  my  own 
case,  and  I  have  seen  it  work  wonders  upon 
others.  It  was  used  in  conjunction  with  the 
devil's  pick-axe — "  If  you  are  not  a  good  boy,  I'll 
send  for  Dr.  Bokanki  to  bleed  you  with  the  devil's 
pick-axe  " !  Edwabd  F.  Kimbault. 

Lady  Alice  Egerton  (4**»  S,  ix.  94, 160,  207.) 
Wright's  picture  of  the  lady  in  Milton's  Comvs 
is  not  a  portrait  of  Lady  Alice  Egerton,  but  a 
fancy  picture,  very  pretty  in  its  way,  but  of  no 
historical  value.  A  contemporair  portrait  of  this 
lady  is  in  the  collection  of  Earl  Brownlow.  It  is 
a  bust  in  low  white  dress,  right  hand  holding 
a  blue  scarf.  The  canvas  measures  twenty-nine  by 
twenty-four  inches.  It  was  exhibited  among  the 
national  portraits  at  South  Kensington  in  April 
1866.  Edwabd  F.  Bimbavlz, 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*^  S.  IX.  March  23,  72. 


BLUE-vnaD  Cheese  (4'**  S.  viii.  passim;  ix. 
101.) — I  copy  a  paragraph  upon  this  subject  from 
The  New  Forest,  its  Uistory  and  Scenert/,  by  John 
R.  Wise.     The  author  says : — 

"Let  ns  take  the  adjective  vinnty^  evidently  from  the 
Old  English  Jinie^  sif^nifyinpr,  in  the  ii»t  pIao«s  mouldy  ; 
and,  since  mould  is  genelrally  blue  or  pur})li^<h,  having 
gradually  attached  to  it  the  signitication  of  colour.  Thus 
we  find  the  mouldy  cheese  not  only  named  *  viuney,'  but 
a  roan  heifer  called  a  *  vinney  heifer.' " 

The  most  singular  part,  however,  as  exemplify- 
ing the  changes  of  words,  remains  to  be  told. 
Since  cheese  from  its  colour  was  called  "  vinney," 
the  word  was  applied  to  some  particular  cheese 
which  was  mouldier  and  bluer  than  others,  and 
the  adjective  was  thus  changed  into  a  substan- 
tive ;  and  we  now  have  ". vinney,'*  and  the  tauto- 
logy "  blue  vinney ''  as  the  names  of  a  particular 
kind  of  cheese,  as  distinguished  from  the  other 
local  cheeses  known  as  "ommary  "  and  "  rammel." 

Axon. 

IIoTCH  Pot  (V^  S.  ix.  180.) — From  an  old  book 
entitled  Priviletjia  Londini^  by  W.  JVohun  of  the 
Middle  Tem])lo,  Esq.,  publishod  in  17:2.'J,  I  ex- 
tract the  following  as  furnishing  some  reply  to 
M«.  CHArrocK's  query  : — 

"  It  is  said  to  be  the  custom  of  I/mdon,  that  if  the 
father  advance  any  of  liis  children  with  any  part  of  his 
goods,  that  shall  bar  them  to  demand  any  further  part, 
unless  the  father  under  his  hand  ur  in  hix  last  will  do 
express  or  declare  that  it  was  but  in  part  of  advance- 
ment ;  and  then  that  child  so  partly  advamred  shall  put 
his  part  in  hotchpot  with  the  executrix  and  widow,  and 
have  a  full  third  part  of  tho  whole,  aci'ountinpj  that  which 
was  formerly  j^iven  him  as-  a  part  thereof." — Co,  Litt. 
176,  b.;  12  Co.  U.S. 

From  this  it  would  seem  that  hUchpot  was  a 
custom  confined  to  the  City  of  I-iondon,  and,  as 
custom  merely,  would  come  under  the  category  of 
lex  tion  scripta.  I  can  throw  no  li{jht  on  the  date 
of  its  origin  or  repeal.  There  can  be  little  doubt, 
I  think,  that  the  custom  gave  the  name  to  the 
difih  now  called  "  hodge-podge." 

Edmund  Tew,  M.A. 

P.S.    Boyer  in  his  French  Dictionary  gives 
hochepot  as  **  mingle-mangle." 

PePvSecution  of  the  IlEAinEN  (4*''  S.  ix.  118, 
187.) — The  assertion  of  Mr.  W.  J.  liERNirAiiD 
Smith  that  "  she  (Hypathia)  was  assuredly  a 
Pagan  martyr,"  is,  I  think,  open  to  very  grave 
exception  ;  fur  to  have  been  this,  according  to  the 
ecclesiastical  acceptati^m  of  the  term,  she  must 
have  given  up  her  life  in  defence  of,  or  for  the 
sake  of,  her  religion.  On  the  authority  of  Socrates 
(^Eccles,  History,  lib.  vii.  -cap.  xv.),  and  of  CTibbon 
(Decline  and  Fall,  chap,  xlvii.),  who,  in  his  ac- 
count, closely  follows  Socrates,  it  is  clear  that 
this  was  in  no  way  a  reliyious  but  a  political 
murder. 

The  story  is  too  long  for  insertion  in  these 
pages.    All  that  I  can  do,  therefore,  is  to  direct 


any  who  would  procure  it  to  the  authorities  I 
have  given.  Any  one  who  knows  Gibbon  knows 
only  too  well  how  glad  he  would  have  been  of 
such  a  handle  as  this  against  Christianity;  and 
no  one  who  reads  the  account  of  Socrates  will 
fail  to  see  how  utterly  he  abominates  the  whole 
affair,  and  also  tho  principal  actors  in  it.  These 
were  Cyril  of  Alexandria  and  his  creature,  Peter 
the  reader.  Edmund  Tew,  M.A. 

Washington  .vnd  Kent  Families  (4»**  S.  ix. 
140.) — Some  time  ago,  in  Simpkinson's  Washing' 
tons,  I  wrote  down  a  pedigree  from  some  source, 
which  I  do  not  recollect,  but  which  proved  a  con- 
nection with  Kent. 


Lawrence  Washinjijton, 
Mavor  of  Northampton, 
d.  Ij'eb.  19,  1.583-4. 


i 


Anne  Pargiter. 


r^wrence  Washington,  s  Anne  Lewin  of  Kent. 
M.P.  for  Maidstone,  d. 

•loiy. 


Robert  Washington  »  Elizabeth  Light. 
^1  • 

Lawrence  NVashington,  »  Margaret  Buller. 
d.  IGIC. 


John  Washington,  = 
emigrateii  to  Ame- 
rica 1(>57. 


l^awrcnce  Washington, 
d.  1697. 


Augustus  Washington  »  Mary  BelL 


George  Washington,  first  President  of  the  United  StalVf 

d.  1799. 

J.  RE 

P.S. —The   following  is  an  extract  from  TV 

Woshinfftons  bv  Sirapkinson.    8vo,  Lend.   189H 

p.  :)1(5:— 

"  liaker  makes  Sir  Lawrence  Washington  of  Gandoa* 
Wilts,  the  second  9on  of  Lawrence,  the  grantee  of  T  ' 
;;rav(>.     lie  was  really  \ii%  graruUon;  one  oat  of  four 
cessive  ^generations  of  Lawrence  Washingtons  having  I 
left  out  by  Baker.    The  son  of  the  grantee*  and  flrtW' 
Sir  Lawrence,  is  described  (/Trr.  Vh,  1618)  as  of  XsU 
intone  in  Kent;  for  which  borough  he  waaM.P.In  1  JacT  " 
mvi.    {Pari,  Hist.  vol.  v.)     He  was  register  of  tt^ 
Court  of  Chancerv,  and  the  patent  of  his  appoiatoMK^ 
(Do  Eliz.)  mav  still  be  seen  among  the  Laasdowne  HSfl^ 
in  the  British  Museum  (No.  168).    He  died  in  1619,  Sfl0 
seventy-three,  and    was    buried    in   Maidstone  duuski 
having  married  Ann  Lewin,  a  KtiUuk  ladj.    (BsillA 
JIUt.  of  Kent.)" 

lie  was  elected  demy  of  Magdalen  Odk§^ 


i.  IX  Habch  S3,  'TS.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


249 


Oxford,  in  1560,  and  sworn  July  26,  16C1,  aged 
fifteen,  of  NortLampton. 

"As  STiuiQni  AS  A  Die  "  (4"*  S.  is.  119, 185.) 
Admitting  the  value  of  all  that  jour  seieritl  cot-- 
reBpondenls  hme  said  upon  the  phrase,  especialU- 
Mk.  Geobqb  Wallis's  account  of  the  oporatioL 
of  stamping  nittal,  I  mu^t  with  all  due  deferenci' 
submit  that  one  and  all  hure  mistaken  iU  mean, 
ing.  Mr.  C.  Cn.iTiocit  observes  that  "  a  die,  ac- 
cordiuir   to  any  dictiouary,  ia   a  stamp  used    iii 


■tof 


Thete  are  esceptions  to  this,  for  the  word  "  die ' 
ie  not  to  bo  found  at  all  in  Bailey.  But  Dr.  Johu- 
son  slates  the  matter  correctly,  uiat  '"die,"  in  onv> 
sense,  is  the  einguiar  nf '' dice ; "  so  thatwhiii  wi^ 
say  "  the  die  is  cast,"  it  is  simply  a  translation  oi 
the  Latin  pliniso  "  Jncia  eat  alea.'"  And  so  Shalie- 


Well  then  may  the  comparison  be  made,  "  an 
elraight  n»  a  die,"  for  evidently  if  not  shaped  witli 
the  utmost  exactness  the  dice  would  be  false  and 
worse  than  uselew.  It  is  unnecessary  to  observe 
how  oftfH  rwoiirsc  was  Lad  to  them  n'monKsl  thf 
fiomauB;  and  I'erMus  gives  au  amusin'.--  account 
Ilow  tnucb.  in  his  younger  days,  he  preferred  the 
study  of  Uiei^e  to  that  of  oratory  :  — 


"  -Srpt  nouloa  mcinini  Ifn^cb 


Jur€  eltniin  iil  lumiDum,  luid  dextjtr  senio  tfiret. 
Scire  erat  in  veto ;  itamiiiisa  cunicula  <|iiiiiituni 
Raiieret ;  angusla^  collo  non  falJier orcii." 

°W.'(1.) 
P.S.  I  suppose  the  word  dice  to  be  a  corruption 
of  dies,  the  plural  of  die ;  but  tbis  seems  a  siagular 
case  and  di.'niands  inquiry. 

LoSGEViir  (i'"  S.  is.  217.)— I  submit  that  this 
is  BO  case  of  longevity  in  any  wonderful  sense.  It 
only  means  that  the  united  ages  of  the  old  couple 
exceeded  one  buiulred  and  ei).'hty  years. 

I.YITELTOS. 

LoRD-LiEi TESAST  (4'"  S.  ix.  220.)— "Lords- 
lieu  ten  an  Is '"is  strictly  correct,  but  Lords  Justices 
is  not  a  proper  parallel,  because  Justice  is  a  sub- 
stantive, whereas  Lieutenant  is  reoliy  a  French  ad- 
jective, or  rather  participle,  "  place- hoi  ding."  It 
LB  therefore  in  grammar  liko  "  les  hommes  mar- 
chaos,"  or  any  similar  phrase.  But  it  is  true  that 
m  its  English  use  Lieutenant  has  completely  be-  . 
come  a  substantive.  On  the  other  hand,  "  Lord- 
mayors  "  varies  from  the  usage  followed  in  ■ 
"  Lords  Justices"  simply  because  "  Lord-mayor"  i 
bu  cmne  to  be  regarded  as  one  word. 

LlTIELIOIf. 


I  Saulies  (4"  S.  ix.  140,  186.)  — Your  cone- 
I  spondents  who  bave  addressed  you  on  this  subject 
I  will  find  in  the  Memoir  of  Bohert  Chambers  (pub- 
I  lished  within  the  last  few  weeks,  and  well  worUiy 
I  of  being  seen  b^  all  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q-"))  &t 
pp.  107-8,  some  information  about  the'dutiesof 
I  tbe  smdies,  and  a  note  on  the  derivation  of  the 
word  which  has  been  coupled  therewith  in  your 
columns.  Mr.  Wm.  Chambers,  editor  of  the  Me- 
moir, gives  tbe  word,  however,  as  gumfia;  end 
I  connects  it,  as  does  your  correspondent  W.  T.  M., 
I  with  gonfalon.  G.  J.  C.  S. 

I      Ayr,  K.B. 

Clbrical  LosaEviTV  (S-^  S.  ix.  8, 73, 262,  &c. ; 
I,  no,  158,  315.) — Is  there  any  foundation  in  fact 
for  the  statement  often  made  of  the  longnvity  of 
the  clergy  as  a  body  P  I  believe  there  is  none 
whatever;  and  that  all  the  cases  cited  of  extreme 
age,  even  among  incumbents,  are  referrible  to  a 
state  of  things  which  no  longer  exists.  Tbe  late 
secretary  of  tbe  Clergy  Mutual  Assurance  Society 
favourea  tbe  common  view,  but  his  table  of  mor- 
tality was  based  on  the  lives  of  5000  clergy  only, 
who  died  between  1760  and  1860;  and  probably 
the  far  grestcr  proportion,  if  not  alt,  were  in  easy 
circumstances — dignitaries  of  cathedrals,  or  incum- 
bents with  good  livings,  whose  lots  were  cast  in 
quieter  times  than  these.  My  own  experience, 
not  very  extensive  certainly,  would  lead  to  a  tot 
different  opinion,  at  least  as  regards  curates.  Cn 
all  my  friends  and  acquaintances  a  lai^  propor- 

'' died  in  the  prime  of  life  ;  some  from 

ight  in  visiting  the  sick  Door,  or  fronj 
traceable  to  their  mode  of  lite  and  profits- 
I  sion ;  diseases  affecting  tbe  nervous  system,  heart 
I  complaints,  paralysis,  &c.,  or  throat  affections. 
I  Two  have  been  in  lunatic  asylums;  two  com- 
I  niitted  suicide  ■■,  one  bad  brain-fever,  and  others 
I  have  become  prematurely  old.  While  the  public 
■  jervicea  are  to  many  very  frying  to  the  nerves, 
the  want  of  society,  except  that  of  the  sick-room, 
is  still  more  depressing;  and  in  country  parishes 
the  curate  has  to  be  much  louger  at  the  bedaids 
of  fever  patients  than  the  doctor.  I  believe,  then, 
the  tenure  of  life  of  a  curate  in  these  davs  is  not 
more,  but  less  secure  than  that  of  other  classes  of 
tbe  same  status.  If  any  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q," 
liave  made  observations  on  the  longevity  of  cu- 
lates  as  well  as  incumbents,  will  they  oblige  me 
und  otbers  by  giving  the  results? 

F.  J.  Li:iCHUAK,  M.A. 
'in,  Coni[)tDn  Turrace,  Higtibui^'. 
BotrsD  Towers  of  Norfolk  (4"'  S.  ix.  138, 
186.) — Tbe  round  towers  in  Norfolk  generally 
appear,  at  any  rate  in  tbe  lower  part,  to  be  tho 
oldest  part  of  the  church.  The  upper  part  of 
many  of  them  seems  to  have  been  repaired  or  re- 
stored, and  in  some  cases  made  octagonal,  tlie 
base  however  remsJiiiDg  round.  The  body  of  the 
cliurcb  seems  to  bave  been  built  on  to  the  tower; 


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[4<h  s.  IX.  March  28,  "n. 


this  is  evidently  the  case  with  two  very  perfect 
ones  near  Norwich — viz.  at  Colney  and  Baw- 
burgh.  The  door  to  most  of  them  seems  to  have 
been  placed  six  or  eight  feet  from  the  ground,  so 
that  access  could  only  be  gained  to  them  by  a 
ladder ;  moreover  the  windows  are  splayed  out- 
wards and  downwards — they  are  in  fact  arrow 
slits.  One  very  observant  man,  who  knows  many 
of  them,  thinks  that  they  were  intended  as  places 
of  defence — in  fact  that,  like  some  of  the  cuurch 
towers  on  the  English  and  Scottish  border,  they 
were  peel-houses.  Most  of  those  I  know  are  near 
rivers,  but  Norfolk  is  so  intersected  with  slug- 
^rish  pike-fishing  streams  that  I  think  this  may 
be  only  an  accidental  circumstance. 

C.  W.  Barkley. 

Gradual  Diminution  of  Provincial  Dia- 
lects (4***  S.  viii.  passim:  ix.  80,  171.) — N.  has 
misunderstood  me.  My  object  was  not  to  criticise 
penny  readings,  but  to  record  the  noteworthy  fact 
that  our  people  already  enjoy  laughing  at  the 
very  dialect  their  fathers  spoke  and  speak.  I  both  j 
xmderstand  and  enjoy  the  broad  Lancashire  pieces 
when  there  is  any  real  wit  in  them  to  enjoy,  and 
I  mourn  over  our  vanishing  dialects.  "P,  P. 

Beeb-Juo  Inscriptions  (4**»  S.  viii.  pasxim; 
ix.  20,  170.)  —  The  inscription  at  p.  170  is  taken 
from  one  of  Dibdin's  nauticid  ballads,  and  is  en- 
titled '*  Saturday  Night  at  Sea.^'  It  is  a  song 
in  Tmuch  favour  with  the  now  fast-dying-out  Old 
Salt.  Good  sentiment  runs  throughout  it,  but  I 
fear  that  in  these  days  of  iron  turrets  and  other 
naval  transformations  the  spirit  of  the  composi- 
tion will  be  lost,  and  Poor  Jack,  in  the  nhade, 
will  have  to  console  himself  with  the  homely  but 
stirring  toast,  that  touches  a  sympathetic  chord 
in  the  breast  of  every  true  British  seaman,  of 
'^  The  lass  that  loves  a  sailor."  E.  J. 

Nelson  Square,  S.E. 

Royal  Heads  on  Bells  (4^'*  S.  ix.  76.) — I 
have  met  with  the  following  instances  of  the 
second  type  of  royal  heads  inquired  for  by  Mr. 
Ellacombe.  The  "cross**  referred  to  below  is 
like  fig.  24  B  in  Raven's  Church  Bells  of  Cam- 
bridgeshirCf  which  Mr.  Raven  has  found  with  the 
same  royal  heads  (see  his  book,  p.  17).  I  think 
Awsten  Bracyer  was  a  predecessor  of,  or  in  some 
way  connected  with,  the  Nottingham  Oldiields. 
A  founder's  shield  containing  the  letters  "  A.  B." 
occurs  on  bells,  together  with  another  shield 
which  the  Oldfields  used ;  and  these  royal  heads 
and  the  above  cross  are  again  common  to  Bracyer 
and  the  Old  fields.  Thomas  Hedderly  of  Not- 
tingham, who  used  these  royals  as  late  as  1742, 
was  a  successor  of  the  Oldfields,  and  used  other 
stamps  that  had  come  down  to  them.  (See 
Yorkshire  Archaoloaical  and  Topographical  Jour^ 
nal,  i.  CI,  &a ;  and  pp.  193, 104.)  The  shields 
here  referred  to  appear  fiK>in  the  stamps  of  letters, 


&c.,  with  which  they  are  associated,  to  have  be- 
longed to  the  same  great  foundry,  probably  before 
the  Oldfields  had  it. 

^'A'*  bears  an  attenuated  cross  saltire  rather 
spreading  out  at  the  ends,  and  extending  to  the 
corners  and  margin  of  the  shield,  intersected  by 
a  small  cross  pattee  in  the  centre. 

'*  B ''  contains  the  initials  r  c  in  black-letter,  and 
a  trade-mark  with  cross  patt^e^  and  flying  streamer 
at  top. 

List  of  royals  hitherto  found  in  Lincolnshire: — 

Marton,  near  Gainsborough  (1st  bell).  Queeu, 
with  shield  A,  "  Lombardic  "  letters. 

Stow  (4th  bell).  King,  with  trade-mark  of  6  0, 
and  a  cross  used  by  Henry  Oldfield  (Raven,  ^^B), 
"  Lombardic." 

West  Rasen  •  (3rd  bell).  King,  with  shield  B 
(each  twice),  black-letter. 

St.  Peter's  at  Gowts,  Lincoln  (3rd  bell).  King 
and  queen  (each  twice),  with  shield  A,  "  Lom- 
bardic." 

Wuith  (1st  bell).  King,  with  shield  B,  and  cross 
as  above,  **  Lombardic." 

Erodingham  •  (3rd  bell).  King,  with  shield  B, 
black-letter.  J.  T.  F. 

Hatfield  Hall,  Durham. 

Brouguam  Anecdotes  (4'**  S.  ix.  195.)— Tftere 

is  another  version  of  the  lines  quoted  by  Mel  Pike, 

which  some  years  since  I  committed  to  paper 

from  recital  of  a  friend,  wha  professed  to  giYO 

them  with  accuracy : — 

*'If  bugs  infest  me  oa  in  bed  I  lie. 
Shall  1  forsake  my  bed  V  oh  no,  not  I. 
But  rout  the  vermin,  every  bog  destroy. 
New  make  my  bed,  and  all  its  sweets  ei^oy.** 

My  informant  did  not  connect  these  lines  with 
Brougham,  but  stated  that  they  had  appeared 
in  a  political  publication  printed  about  the  year 
1832— the  Black  Dwarfs  he  seemed  to  think.  It 
is,  however,  quite  possible  that  Brougham  may 
be  the  author.  A  Middlk  TEMVLABi 

GEORCrE  Ferrers  (4*'»  S.  ix.  lOiS.) — ^There  is  a 
short  life  of  him  in  Wood^s  Athen,  Ojron.,  voLL 
col.  152,  ed.  1G91.  There  are  some  additions  to 
what  Dr.  Rim  bault  mentions.  Wood  aays  that 
he  was  born  ^^  at  or  near  to  St  Albans  " ;  that  he 
^'  became  as  eminent  for  the  law  as  before  he  mi 
for  his  poetry  " ;  that  '^  though  he  hath  not  writ 
much,  yet  he  is  numbered  among  the  iUustrioof 
and  learned  men  of  the  age  he  lived  in  (by 
Joh.  Leland  the  antiquary,  in  liltuir^  in  Angt,  nr. 
Encomitmiy  ed.  Lond.  15S0,  p.  99)  ;  that  he  wxoto 
MisceMany  of  Poems,  and  translated  from  FvBDch 
into  Latin  The  Statutes  called  Magna  Charia^',  that 
there  is  more  about  him  in  Leland,  «.  t. ;  aiid 
that  he  may  have  been  member  for  Plymouth  in 
1642.  Ep.  MATWiTiUi 

*  Have  a  cross  often  foond  with  the  same  lUddt  qittl 
diflferent  from  Kaven,  24  B. 


4»3.ix.Mabch23,:2.]  NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


OsE-PBNNr  (4""  S.  IK.  201.}— IlalUwell  baa 

"BasiUsda.  The  plav  called  Qnealiona  »nd  Com- 
muids  ;  tbe  choosing  of  King  and  Queen  as  on  Twelfth 
Sight.    PAUIipi." 

John  Acdis. 

DlTORCB  (4'"  S.  ix.  200.)— A.  womBn  diTorced 
retaiiiB  her  marriage  name ;  but  I  take  it  there  is 
nothing  to  prevent  any  one  from  assuming  any 
name  be  or  she  maj  tbinic  fit. 

E.  S.  Chars ocK. 

Cray's  Inn. 

"  Board  "  (4'"  S.  ix.  03, 140, 20D.)— Ilow  steam 
bas  superseded  navigation !  In  these  days  a  per- 
SOD  may  voyage  120,000  miles  without  aiBKing 
a  board,  or  hearing  tbe  term,  which  appliee  to 
Staling  only,  Dana's  Seainan't  Maniinl  (AmericanJ 
explains  ioanf,  "tbe  stretch  a -vessel  makes  upon 
one  tack  when  she  is  beating."  W.  G. 

CiTT  State  Barges  (i'^S.  ix.  19fl.)— If  M.F.C. 
wishes  to  know  tbe  present  whereabouts  of  the 
ex-City  state  barges,  be  should  visit  Oxford,  and 
take  a  stroll  in  Christchurch  meadow,  by  the 
river  side  ;  for  there  many,  I  believe,  of  the 
barges  of  the  diilerent  colleges,  used  as  club- 
rooms  by  tbe  subscribers,  are  the  old  state  barges 
of  the  City  companies,  and  may  now  be  seen,  re- 
fitted and  adapted  to  their  present  purposes. 

"TheFosglovk  wiiicn  Tom,"  ETC.  (4"'S.  ix. 
181.)— This  couplet  will  be  found  in  The  Alphnbet 
of  Flowert,  one  of  a  series  of  shilling  toy  books 
pablished  by  George  Routledge  and  Sons,  London 
The  book  came  into  my  bouse  three  or  four  years 
ago.  Why  do  the  publiehers  of  most  children's 
books  now  not  print  a  date  upon  them  ? 

w.  II.  r. 

HOTES  ON  BOOKS.  ETC. 

Rogal  and  Ktjniblican  Francr.  A  Stria  nf  Ennyt  re- 
frimiad  from  tht  -  J-Mjiburglt,"  "  Quaritrly,'  and 
"Briliih  and  Foreisn"  Hcciac'.  By  Henry  Reere, 
CoirespondiDg  Member  of  the  Frenih  InsUtute.  In 
Two  Volumti.     (Longmans.) 

Thoee  who  spree  with  Bolingbroke  that  "history  is 
phUowphy  teaching  by  eumplts,"  and  by  Btnclying 
llie  put  revolutions  of  France  voatit  desire  to  learn  the 
ftatare  destiny  of  that  great  and  onee  all-powerful  country, 
will  find  ample  materials  for  so  doing  in  tlie  seriea  of 
enays  here  reprinted  from  the  various  reviews  in  whicli 
they  bave  appeared  fiom  lime  tj)  time  during  a  period  of 
Bcarlj  thirty  jeara.  The  titles  of  the  several  papers, 
Whidi  are— Louis  .\IT..  Saint  Simon,  Miraboan,  Marie 
Antmnette,  Beagoot,  Uollien,  Chateaubriand,  I^uis 
Hiilippe,  Alexis  de  Tocqueville,  Frant-e  in  1870,  and  Com- 
munal Fnmce,  sufGciently  indicate  the  various  phases  of 
recent  french  history  which  our  author  pas.<e9  uuder 
review  ;  aad  the  moral  nhif^h  he  draws  is  one  which  we 
should  all  do  well  to  lay  to  heart,  that  we  may  continue  to 
nuintalD  among  ns  that  respect  for  the  law,  which  Is  lbs 
gnat  secnrity  alike  for  individaat  and  national  liberty. 
■*  A  natiaii"  aiyi  Mr.  Reeve, "  may  have  wealth,  territory. 


population,  genius,  industry  ei 
and  rain."     France  has  yet  to  leara  bow  t< 
.  -„7« 

Xultd  Characttri  ill  the  Cenultriii  and  Churcaa  nj  ai. 

Pancrai,  Middlaex.    B}  Frederick  Teague  Canaick. 

(J.  Russell  Smith.) 

Another  volume  of  nearly  three  hundred  pages  fni- 
nij^ea  evidence  of  Mr.  Caosick's  industry  in  collecting 
and  recording  the  monumental  inscriptions  in  the  church- 
yards of  MiddleBex.  The  cemeteries,  graveyards,  and 
other  resting  places  of  the  departed,  from  which  th« 
author  has  derived  the  materials  of  the  present  volame, 
are— Uighgate  Cemeterv;  St.  Michael's  Church,  High- 
gotej  the  Cemetery  of  St.  George-lhe-Martyr,  Bnra»- 
wick  Square ;  tbe  Foundling  Hospital  Chapel ;  BloomsbiiTy 
Cemeterj'.  Brunswick  Square;  St.  Martin's  Cemetery, 
Camden  Town;  St.  Andrew's,  Gray's  Inn  Road;  S't. 
Giles's  Cemeterv,  King's  Koad  j  and  Ht.  Aloysius'  Chapel, 
Camdeu  Town^  The  utility  of  the  volnme  ia  greatly 
enhanced  by  an  inde.i  of  names.  The  next  volume  will 
contain  upwards  cf  tire  hundred  aneieut  epitaphs  from 
Highgate,  Homsey,  Southgate,  Edmonton,  Enfield,  Tot- 
teunam,  Hadley,  I'riern  Bamet,  Ac. 

Parish  RKOiKTeiis. — In  the  House  of  Lords  on  Tnes- 
'  Lch  will  poMs* 
It.  It  taa"Ite- 
Ector,  vicar,  curate,  otHciating  minister,  or 
charge  of  each  parish,  chapelrj-,  or  eccle- 
siastical district  in  England  and  Wales,  of  all  register^ 

31st  Dumber,  IWI,  stating  their  nature,  the  dates  from 
which  and  to  which  they  extend,  their  slate  and  condi- 
tion, and  how  and  where  they  are  preserved";  and  ft 
similar  "Return  from  each  of  tha  same  persons,  to  tbe 
Slit  December,  1871,  whether  the  parchment  copies  of 
baptisms,  marriages,  or  burials  iwiuired  by  the  Act  62 
(.eo  111  cap   HU,  have  been  annually  sent  to  the  dio- 

haie  not  been  sent,  and  the  reasons  for  not  sending 
them  "  The  non-compliance  with  this  Act,  which  is  so 
generally  complained  of,  has  probably  originated  from  a 
difRculIr  m  enforcing  it-^a  natural  difficulty,  it  will  be 
admittnd,  when  it  is  known  that  while  Clause  xiv.  indicts 
transportation  for  seven  years  upon  certain  oflences. 
Clause -^viil  awards  one-W/ n/ a//  lines  onrf  pma/Jtej  to 

The  S.vi.T  LiBRABY.  — The  difficultiea  that  have 
hitherto  presented  tlicmselves  in  the  way  of  the  Salt 
Library  being  permanently  located  in  Stafforcishire  ap- 
pear at  last  to  have  been  surmounted.  The  premises  at 
present  tenanted  by  Llovd's  Banking  Companv  (branch), 
in  the  Market- square,  £taSbrd,  have  been  surveved  by  a 
gentleman  appointed  for  that  purpose  by  Mra.VV.  Salt, 
and  that  lady  has  now  signiGed  her  willingness  to  accept 
the  otfer  of  Mr.  Thomas  Salt,  H.P.,  and  purchase  the 
propert}'.  By  this  arrangement  the  purchase  money — 
3DO0/.— will  be  handed  over  as  a  gift  by  Mr.  T.  Salt  to 
the  endowment  fund,  which  will  now  only  want  900/.  to-  ' 
complete  the  sum  named  by  Mrs.  W.  Salt— viz.  6000/. 

"The  Lahbetu  Kevibw."— Tbisis  thetitle  ofanew 
Quarterly  Mageiinc  of  Theology,  Christian  Politicv 
Literature,  and  Art.  of  which  the  first  number  has  just 
been  issued  by  Messrs.  Mitchell  of  Pariiament  Street. 
It  sapporta  the  views  of  High  Churchmen,  but  is  not 
exclasively  theological.  The  articles  on  **  Disestablish- 
ment and  Diaendowmnit,"  on  "  DUllioger'a  Fables  cod- 


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cerning  the  Pope,"  on  "  The  Athanasian  Creed,"  and  on  ; 
**  Prayers  for  the  Dead,"  bcinfj^  relieved  by  papers  on  t!ie  . 
"  Venetian  Aristocracy,"  "  The  Architecture  of  our  Civil  . 
and  Domestick  Buildings,"  and  one  on  Lord  Clermont's  | 
splendid  volume  "  Sir  John  Fortescue  and  his  Descend- 
ants." A  certain  portion  of  the  number  is  aUo  devoted 
to  Notices  of  New  Books. 

**  The  fire  which  has  destroyed  the  Luther  memorials 
at  Erfurt  will  be  regarded  as  a  misfortune  all  over  the 
world.  The  orphanage  and  reformatory  which  adjoined 
the  old  Augustinian  church  were  built  upon  the  remains 
of  the  monasterv  in  which  Luther  was  a  monk.  Of  these 
remains  a  small  part  at  the  corner  of  the  quadrangle 
were  supposed  to  be  of  the  age  before  the  Reformation, 
and  to  contain  the  very  cell  of  the  great  reformer  and 
other  rooms  in  which  he  may  have  studied :  close  to  them 
was  the  «a//e  of  the  asylum  in  which  a  museum  and  pic- 
ture-gallery had  been  formed.  The  curiosities  were 
chiefly  objects  of  local  interest,  such  as  specimens  of  the 
bread  baked  during  the  French  campaigns  of  1813-15, 
with  the  enormous  prices  at  which  it  was  sold ;  a  mummy: 
and  a  painting,  by  Beck,  of  the  Danse  Machabre.  But  a 
world-wide  interest  was  felt  in  the  Bible  which  Luther 
stndifHl,  the  chair  in  which  he  sat,  and  even  the  mark  of 
the  ink-bottle,  which,  in  a  fit  of  delirium  from  overwork, 
he  flung  against  the  wall.  All  these  seem  to  be  dc- 
•stroyed."— Cruarc//aif. 


Thomas  RATCLiFFE.^rAe  aong  **  JFiHiam  amd  Jomw 
than  "  wiU  be  found  in  The  Universal  Songster,  pmhHahtd 
by  FairbHrn  in  1825,  i.  6^.  but  without  the  attthoi^a  ncuM. 

RoBKKT  White.— /n  the  memoir  of  Th»ma9  ObWifo- 
pher  Hoji'intif  B.A.,  cnnfrihuted  to  the  Art  Jouroil  qf 
March,  1843,  htf  hit  widow,  it  is  stated  that  the  patMter 
tms  horn  at  IV'orkaop  on  Dec,  25,  1777.  OoHMult  alao  the 
(lent.  Mag. /ir  Mat/,  1813,  p.  640. 

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exception. 

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read  Professor  DuchheinCs  paper  in  our  present  number. 

Step  II KX  .Iack^jOX  will  find  a  satisfactory  etymology  of 
clock,  a  Iteetle,  in  Atkinson^ s  Craven  Glos.sary  —  viz. 
CiiULKrcii,  .scarabeiLs. 

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J.  D.  (lleaton  Moor.) — "  Five  and  four  are  nine." 

W.  A.  B.  (St.  Stephen's  Club.)— /-er-nc. 

J.  P.  Earwakkr  (Oxford). — The  fresco  paintings  on 
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Avonf  from  the  drawings  by  T.  Fislter,  were  described  by 
John  Gough  JVichols,  F.S.A.,  and  published  by  H.  G. 
Bohn  in  1K38. 

C.  Rh^AunAiN. — An  engraving  of  that  interesting  relic 
of  the    Gorman    jH'.riod,  the  Jew^s   house  at  Lincoln,   is 
given   in    Turner  s   Domestic   Architecture  of  Enprlaml, 
1851,  i.  41.     There  is  a  notice  of  it  in  The  Builder   of 
March  1«,  1872. 

Dit.  RliuioNrt. — The  name  of  Peter  Paul  Rubens  was 
sometimes  spelt  Kubbens,  as  on  his  r/rent picture  at  Antwerp. 
"  N.  &  (i."  2n'«  S.  vii.  20. 

Enquirer. — See  Isaiah,  v.  18. 

Sir  Tho-MAS  Wixninoton.— Orosina,  by  King  Alfred, 
has  been  noticed  in  eight  articles  of  the  First  Series  of 
*•  N.  &  Q."  vols.  i.  ii.  viL  xii. 


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253 


LONDON,  SATURDAY,  IIARCU  SO,  1872. 


CONTENTS.— N«  222. 


NOTHS:— "Otia  Votiva,"  1705:  ft  Scotish  BibHomaiiiaoal 
Jii'lice— President  PorlH's,  2M— Rwivaii  MiU'Stoiie  in  the 
C'aiHline  Forks,  254—  Linos  on  th(>  IK'ath  of  Pope,  255  — 
Polk  Lore  :  Superstition  in  AiifrW^scy,  lb.—  The  Mainten- 
mice  of  the  Cler^  of  London  in  Times  Past,  258  —  "  Hell 
is  Haved  with  good  Intentions,"  24>o  —  Pierrepout's Refuge 

—  Natural  —  Signs  on  Doorposts,  Jb. 

QUERIES  :-Ago  of  Ships :  the"  Chanticleer  "— "  Arabella's 
Gh'st"  —  Ballad  —  Baronies  in  Abeyance  —  "Britons, 
utrike  Home !"  —  Captive's  Coffin  in  Pirospect  —  Sir  Boyle 
Ro<»»e—CaulfeiW  —  Wni. Clifton  of  Uoufthton,  co.  York 

—  "Tho  Cn])8  and  Salmon  "— Directory  of  Foreign  En- 
pineers  —  Old  Giimes  —  Edward  Gardner  —  Heraldic 
Query  —  Mary  Qneen  of  Scots  —  George  Mo^e,  Enquire  — 
Orchids  —  Proverb  —  Puckle  Family  —  Pu«ry  —  Satirical 
Picture  attributed  to  Hogarth  — Scottish  Poem  —  Wax, 
Ac  —  Dr.  Josiah  Woodward,  261 . 

REPLIES:  — Tudor  House  at  Wimbledon,  2«4  —  "8ph»r» 
cujus  centrum."  Ac.  265  —  "  Tlie  Ballad  of  Klodden  Field," 
Jd.  —  Defeude  —  *'  Catus  am«t  pisces  "  —  Governor :  Vice- 
roy—The  Devil's  Nutting  Dav— Rev.  Thos,  Cromwell, 
Ph.D.,  F.8.A.— Black  Rain  —  Lincolnshire  Folk  Lore  — 
Gawviaon  — "The  Ladies'  Library":  Eliea  Steele— Re- 
production of  Seals  and  Coins  —  Societies  for  the  Refor- 
mation of  Manners  —  Homer  and  his  Translators  —  The 
first  Latin  Version  of  Homer's  "  Iliad  "  — Derivations  of 
Names  of  Countries,  Ac—  Family  of  Orde  —  Sancte-bell 
and  Cot  — "^Gutta  cavat  lapidem,"  &c.  — Les  prCtres  de- 
port 68  —  BaUiursbrA  —  Finaerne  Flowers  —  Sola,  or  Solah 

—  *•  Thanksgiving"  —  Lcvclis  of  Barbadoes,  260. 

yot«s  CD  Books,  Ac. 


^*OTIA  YOTIVA,"  1705:  A  SCOTISH  BIBLIOMA- 
NIACAL  JUDGE-PRESIDENT  FORBES. 

Sir  William  Anstrutlier  of  that  Ilk,  created  a 
iMiroiiet  before  the  Union,  was  an  eminent  Scotch 
advocate ;  and  was,  after  the  Kevolution,  made  a 
judge  of  the  Court  of  Session.  He  received  his 
appointment  in  November,  1689,  when  he  took 
bis  seat  as  Lord  Anstruther.  He  was  nominated 
a  Lord  of  Justiciary  in  1704,  and  died  in  his 
lodgings  in  Edinburgh  on  January  24,  1711. 

From  the  magnificent  collection  of  books  ac- 
quired by  him,  which  were  sold  a  few  years  since, 
after  being  kept  in  the  family  for  more  than  a 
century  and  a  half,  he  must  have  been  an  in- 
veterate bibliomaniac:  for  more  rare  and  beau- 
tiful volumes  have  never  been  brought  to  the 
hammer  in  Scotland.  The  condition,  in  every  in- 
stance, was  faultless.  Many  of  the  tomes  were 
acarce,  even  in  his  dav:  for  instance,  Barbour*fl 
Bruce,  black  letter,  1616,  and  Blind  Harry's  Wal- 
iac€j  1620 — both  printed  at  Edinburgh  by  Andro 
Hart.  Of  the  former  work,  it  is  the  only  perfect 
copy  known:  the  one  in  the  Bodleian  Library 
being  defective  in  a  sheet,  as  mentioned  by  the 
learned  editor  of  the  Spalding  edition  of  Barbour. 

In  the  Anttruther  library  the  following  volume, 
•maU  8vo,  tonied  up :  '— 


"  Otia  Votiva  ;  or  Poems  upon  several  Occasions — 

*  .    .    .    Opera««a  parvus 

Carmina  fingo.' — Hor. 

London :  Printed  and  sold  by  J.  Nutt,  near  Stationers* 
Hall,  1705." 

This  collection  was  conditionally  given  to  his 

lordship.     On  the  fly-leaf  is  written  — 

"  Anstruther,  I  send  you  this — a  book  in  a  present ; 
but  upon  these  terms,  that  you*ell  end  a  business  of  Robert 
Wilson's,  which  is  to  be  before  you  to-morrow.  He  is  a 
tenant  and  vassall  of  mine.  His  antagonist  is  Darling, 
the  madd  minister.  I  am  i)ot  very  exact  in  the  business, 
but  Pittillo.  Sir  Walter  Pringle's"  servant,  is  to  give  you 
ane  account  of  it  to  morrow." 

^  Walter  Pringle  was  a  member  of  the  Faculty 
of  Advocates  at  the  time ;  not  having  been  ele- 
vated to  the  bench  until  July  6,.  1718,  when  he 
took  the  title  of  Lord  Newhall,  and  was  one  (A 
the  best  judges  that  ever  sat  on  it.  Mr.  Pittillo 
must  not  be  understood  to  have  been  the  servant 
in  the  ordinary  acceptation  of  the  word,  but  the 
clerk  of  Sir  Walter.  Pittillo,  or  Pi  ttilloch,  is  a  Fife- 
shire  name :  one  Robert  Pittilloch,  in  that  county, 
was  Solicitor- general  in  Scotland  during  the  rule 
of  Cromwell.  Now,  as  Anstruther's  estate  was 
in  Fife,  Pittillo,  as  coming  from  the  same  county, 
was  the  most  judicious  person  to  communicate 
the  required  information  to  the  judge  who  was  to 
hear  the  case. 

As  Anstruther  retained  the  volume,  and  put  the 
book-plate  of  the  arms  of  '*  Sir  John  Anstruther 
of  that  Ilk,  Baronet,*'  on  the  boards,  it  is  obvious 
that  the  present  was  accepted ;  but  what  followed 
is  not  known,  although  it  may  be  conjectured 
the  "  vassall "  of  the  donor  would  obtain  ample 
redress.  It  shows  the  judge's  passion  for  out-of- 
the-way  books  was  well  known,  and  that  advan- 
tage was  taken  of  it  to  influence  him  in  'deciding 
a  case  which  was  to  be  discussed  before  his  lord- 
ship next  day. 

Is  anything  known  about  the  author  of  the  Otia 
Votiva  i  Some  of  the  poems  are  somewhat  free, 
although  not  without  merit.  An  imitation  of  the 
tenth  satire  of  Juvenal  may  be  instanced  as  a 
good  specimen  of  the  writer's  ability  in  that  line 
of  composition. 

Darlmg,  the  "  mad  minister,"  was  probably  the 
Presbyterian  clergyman  of  some  of  the  parishes 
adjoining  Ely  House,  the  residence  of  the  judge 
on  his  estate  of  Anstruther  when  not  judicially 
engaged  in  the  Scotch  metropolis  or  going  on  the 
circuit  as  a  justiciary  judge. 

Lord  Anstruther  wrote  and  published  in  4to, 
Edinburgh,  1701,  a  volume  of  Bsmys,  Moral  and 
Divine,  very  much  against  the  wishes  of  his 
friends,  who  did  all  they  coijild  to  dissuade  him — 
at  least  so  the  late  Alexander  Campbell  asserts 
in  his  History  of  Poetry  in  Scotland,  p.  141.  After 
his  death,  his  son  and  heir  bought  up  all  the 
copies  he  could  find.  Consequently  it  is  now  a^ 
book  of  considerable  rarity. 


254, 


NOTES  AND  QCfEBIES. 


[4*S.  IX.  Ma>csVI,7L 


The  judges,  eren  after  the  Union,  were  not  in- 
disposed  to  listeQ  to  privnte  influeoco  in  deciding 
cases.  There  were  cerdiin  individuals,  of  good 
position  in  society,  called  Pets,  or  Peats,  who  had 
the  eu  of  a  I^ord  of  Session,  and  through  whom 
he  might  be  reached.  Those  persons  who  have 
the  good  fortune  to  possess  a  copy  of  that  curious 
and  rare  work  called  the  Court  of  Seiaion  Garland 
will  find  an  account  of  these  now  repudiated  j 
hangers  on,  whicli  is_  exceedingly  amusing.  But 
amongst  the  iaslancos  there  given,  the  bribing  of 
a  judge  by  the  present  of  a  book,  as  here  evidently  ' 
had  been  attempted,  has  not  been  recorded.  There  | 
is  an  anecdote  truditionnlly  treosmitted  to  modem  '_ 
days  that  the  celebrated  Duncan  Forbes,  Presi-  ' 
dent  of  tho  Court  of  Ses^on  in  the  year  17415,  used 
not  unfrequently  to  give  as  a  toast  at  convivial 
meetings:  ''Here's  to  the  health  of  such  of  our  ; 
iud)jes  ufl  don't  deserve  to  he  han;rfd."  His  | 
lordship  had  a  pretty  good  notion  that  the  bench  I 
was  not  so  puro  as  it  should  have  been,  even  in  I 
hia  day.  J.  M.     i 

KOMAX  Mir.F.STOSF:  IS  THE  CAUUIXE  FORKS, 
In  snuiitcring  through  the  dcjilc,  which  some 
think  to  be  the  ttite  of  the  I'flebrnted  Cnudino 
Forks,  wliere  the  lloniaii  dUnater  took  place 
B.C.  3l1,  aiid  of  whii'h  I  have  ijiven  a  short  nc- 
cotint  {■i'*'  a.  viii.  'J^il',  '270),  I  cnuie  upon  a  Uoman 
milestone  of  a  very  iutcro$.liiig  character,  if  we 
can  believe  that  the  inscri^itiims  upon  it  were 
placed  there  at  the  dates  indicated,  and  T  do  not 
know  that  lliitre  is  any  reason  to  doubt  that  it  is 
the  ca-te.  It  is  found  at  tho  village  Ar|iala,  about 
a  mile  froui  a  spot  called  Forcbie.  On  one  side, 
in  large  Itoman  characters,  is  found  — 


"  Impwator  Ciwar  Pivi  Kiliiw  .^agudtiLt.  C'^nsii!  XI. 
Tribunu-ii  l>iiip->latB  VII.,  Kaduu'lum  Ciirarit." 

It  is  very  intercsling  to  tiud  this  inscription, 
showing  that  the  milestone  woa  erected  in  the 
tieveulh  consiiUIiip  of  Augustus,  >i.c.  2-1 — a  year 
marked  bv  a  sercro  los*,  the  death  of  his  nephew 
Marcciliis'  (Virg.  Aji.  vi.  dUl-8^7;  Propert.  iii. 
18),  not  inoro  grieved  for  by  hia  mother  Octavia 
than  by  his  uncle.  t)n  the  reverse,  in  small  rude 
characters,  appears  the  following  long  inscription, 
giving  tlie  names  of  several  well-known  person- 
ngea  in  proper  chronological  order; — 


"  Domino  nostra  Flavfo  Claqdio  Jaliuio,  Pfo,  Falid, 


I  give  this  as  I  found  it,  without  pretending  to 
be  alilo  to  explain  bow  such  a  collection  of  ntmes, 
certainly  of  a  Inter  date  than  the  original  erec- 
tion, can  have  been  brought  together.  Ai«  we 
to  consider  that  the  stone  has  been  used  by  vuioui 
parties  and  at  various  times  ?  Can  a  satiobctorj 
I  explanation  be  suggested  P 

Flavius  Claudius  Julianus,  aumamed  the  Apo- 
state (A.D.  301-3&]),  ia  a  vrell-known  chutkctcf. 
Theodosius  the  Great  was  the  opposite  of  Juliu, 
and  his  atuct  orthodoxy  has  made  him  ft  peculiar 
favourite  of  the  Catholic  church.  In  the  age  of 
Theodosius  (a.s.  3r0-30o),  "  the  ruin  of  pagan- 
is[u,"  says  Gibbon,  "is  perhaps  the  only  example 
of  the  tiital  extirpation  of  any  aucient'  and  populir 
superstition,  and  may  therefore  deserve  to  be 
considered  as  a  lingular  event  in  the  histoiy  of 
the  human  mind."  Next  appear  the  nanus  of 
Arcadius  and  Ilonorius,  sons  of  Theodosiiu,  anl 
lastly,  Valentinianus  111.,  Koman  emperor  tan 
A.]).  425  to4'1'j,  in  whose  reign  Attila,  tbescontge 
of  the  human  race,  made  a  descent,  a.d.  4fiS,  oB 
Italy.  It  iscurioiisthat  this  worthlesa  little  atou 
should  record  a  collection  of  names  bo  faoicd  in 
the  world's  history,  and  should  be  found  at  a  toot 
so  marked  in  Koman  story  as  the  Caudine  Fma 
I  am  sorry  that  I  did  not  think  of  exmnining  tba 
engraving  of  the  letters  to  formmmeideawfaetbcr 
the  whole  had  been  inscribed  at  once. 

Again,  at  Cauosa,  in  Apulia,  tho  M(e  of  tb 
ancient  Cnniisiura,  fumed  in  Horace  (Sal.  i.  6)  fa 
its  gritty  bread  and  want  of  water,  and  whm  I  t 
found  many  ancient  remains  of  a  moat  intenttiiC 
character,  there  is  a  stone,  not  a  nulestoiM^  tktf 
has  been  used  in  tho  same  way,  and  where  At 
names  of  Theodosius,  .Vrcadius,  and  HonoriuilH 
appear.  It  secma  to  have  been  the  pedestal  to  » 
statue  of  ^'ertumnus,  and  has  the  following  ■>* 


Then  behind,  and  iu  ill-formed  uhaiactei^  i^ 
pears  the  following : — 


)i(..V).[.«.,Hi(,;.) 


Curiously  enuugn,  in  Pratilli's  Tut  Afpk(f- 
|]2:i)Ifind  an  inscription  in  wUcb  OieiMBM* 
j  Tlieodosius,  Arcadius,  and  Honorins  an  mlhetf 
in  the  name  way.  The  stone  was  fimnd  la  A* 
neighbourhobd  of    Terradni^  and  It  gtnB  If 


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Gmter.  It  is  a  milestone  of  larger  size  tiian 
uaua],  and  was  oriRiDnllj-  erected  in  the  reiga  of 
TraJBD,  A.D.  112,  when  he  was  consul  for  the  aiith 
time.    It  runs  thus:— 


Then  with  a  slight  interTol,  and  ii 
characters,  is  added — 


Are  we  to  read  the  contractions  thus  P — Do- 
minis  nostria  felicibus  .  .  .  .P  Theodoaio, Arcadio 
et  Honorio  Patribua  Fatriee  semper  augustis  bono 
reipublicie  natis. 

I  shall  be  glad  if  anj  satisfactory  eiplanation 
can  be  suggested  for  this  strange  medlej  of  names 
brought  together  on  these  stones. 

Uraufceb  Tait  Ravage. 


To  real  kaavea  and  real  fools  a  sore  : 
Beloved  by  mnny,  bul  abhorred  \jy  more. 
If  here  his  merita  are  not  full  expteat, 
Ilia  never-djing  Blrsins  ehall  Idl  Ibe  rfst.'  " 

Sure  the  greatest  part  was  his  true  character. 
Here  is  another  bv  RoUi,  which,  for  the  profound 
fall  in  some  of  the  veraes,  especially  in  the  last, 
will  divert  jon:  — 

"  Spento  t  il  Pope ;  de'  poeli  Britanoi 
lino  de'  lumi  che  sorge  in  milU  annt : 
Pur  si  vuol  cbe  la  macchia  d'  ingr«(o 
N^  abbia  reao  il  fulgor  men  sereDO : 
Stalo  fora  e  piii  Kiu^to,  e  piii  gnlo, 
Men  lodando,  e  biaamando  aueor  mena. 
Ma  cbi  i  reo  per  nativo  prurilo  ? 
I-ode  a  Biaamo,  qal  tatto  b  partito, 
Nasce,  SCOTT*,  si  legge,  si  aeatc ; 
Dopo  un  Di,  tntto  e  per  niente." 

Bolli  was  composer  of  the  operas,  and  acqniiad 
the  honour  of  being  named  in  that  temple  of  fame, 
The  J^unciad : — 


S.H. 


LINES  OS  THE  DEATH  OF  POPE. 

It  is  always  pleasant  to  contribute  any  detail 

ctmnected  with  a  great  author  which  serves  to 

illustrate  his  life,  or  is  associated  with  his  career. 

I  met  the  following  amid  the  flow  of  Horace 

Walpole'a  pleasant  gossip,  and  send  it  unknowing 

I  whether  it  may  be  published  in  any  edition  of  his 

Works  (Cunningham,  i.  311) :  *— 

"  To  Gil  up  (his  abeet.  I  shall  IranMribe  aome  very 
good  lines  published  to-day  in  one  of  the  papers  by  I 
don't  know  whom,  on  Pope's  death :  — 

'  Here  Ilea,  who  died,  aa  moat  folks  die,  in  hope, 
The  mouldring  more  ienoble  part  of  Pope  ; 
The  bard,  whose  gprigbtly  genius  doied  to  wage 
*       Poetic  war  with  an  immoral  age  ; 

Made  every  vice  and  private  follv  known 
In  friend  and  foe — a  stranger  to  tia  own ; 
Set  virtue  in  its  loveliest  form  to  view, 
And  still  professed  to  be  the  sketch  be  drew. 
As  humour  or  as  interest  served,  his  verse 
Coultl  praise  or  flatter,  libel  or  asperse ; 
Unbanning  innocence  with  guilt  cotild  load. 
Or  Uft  the  rebel  patriot  to  a  god  ; 
Give  the  censorious  critic  standing  laws  ; 
The  first  to  violate  them — with  applause : 
Thejnst  IranslatoT  and  tt°  ■""■'  "■' 


The  impions  plague  of  the  defbncelns  dead  : 


FOLK  LOBE :  SUPERSTITIQN  IN  ANGLE3ET. 
By  the  Hon.  W,  O.  Staslbt,  M.P. 

I  am  induced  by  a  recent  occurrence  in  my  im- 
mediate residence  to  write  a  few  remarks  upon 
the  popular  superstitious  still  prevalent  in  Angle- 
sey, and  probably  in  other  parts  of  North  Wafeo, 

On 'October  S,  as  a  labourer  in  my  employ, 
Edward  Morris,  was  removing  an  old  earthen  oank 
or  fence  on  Penrhos  Bradwn  farm,  he  found 
secreted  in  the  middle  a  black  pipkin  with  a  slate 
covering  the  mouth,  on  which  was  scratched  in 
rude  letters  "  Nakhet  Robbbts"  on  both  udea. 
In  the  pipkin  there  were  seen  the  bones  of  a  frog, 
with  the  dried  skin  adhering  to  several  large  pins 
apparently  of  old  date.    We  counted  forty  in  all. 

The  tradition  common  amongst  the  country 
people  is,  that  anyone  having  ill  will  against 
another  person  can  witch  them  by  sticking  a  live 
irogfullof  pinaand  depodting  it  ina  pipkin,  with 
the  name  of  the  person  to  oe  wilchea  marked 
on  the  coveik  Until  the  person  so  bewitched  can 
find  the  pipkin  and  frog,  the  curse,  whatever  it 
was,  remams  upon  them.  Sometimes  the  frog, 
stuck  full  of  pins,  was  burnt  in  the  fire  to  denote 
a  curse  that  could  not  be  taken  away.  At  other 
times  the  poor  frog  was  cast  into  a  pool  of  water 
to  linger,  struggle,  end  die.  I  am  told  that  this 
last  piece  of  cruelty  is  often  resorted  to  hj  young 
girls  who  have  a  apiteigdnst  a  rival  in  their  afiec- 
tiona,  and  by  this  means  seek  to  regain  the  lost 

There  were  certwn  persona  supposed  to  have 
the  power  of  witchcraft,  and  they  made  a  lucrative 
trade  by  deluding  the  ignorant  and  superstitions. 
A  certain  Griffith  Ellis,  remding  near  Llanberia, 
was  supposed  to  have  this  power,  and  vraa  resorted 


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to  from  far  and  near  by  those  who  believed  them- 
selves or  their  cattle  to  be  under  a  curse.  Money 
was  of  course  required  as  a  preliminary.  He  told 
them  that  by  lookin<f  into  a  certain  sort  of  glass, 
he  could  tell  where  the  curse-pot  was  secretetl, 
and  directed  them  to  the  .«pot  so  that  they  might 
find  it  and  relieve  themselves  of  the  curse. 

Another  popular  belief  was  that  uU  wells  the 
overllow  of  which  rim  to  the  south  had  the  pro- 
perty of  cursing  wells.  Such  a  well  near  Penrhos 
was  much  resorted  to  to  cvlkq  or  cure  the  cancer. 
The  person  seeking  relief  was  to  wash  in  the> 
water,  and  uttering  curses  against  the  disea.se,  was 
to  drop  pins  round  the  well. 

A  carpenter  now  in  my  service  tells  me  thfit 
when  a  boy  he  frequently  went  to  the  well  to  pick 
up  the  pins  scattered  about  The  daninge  from 
trespass  was  so  great  that  the  farmer  destrov-ed 
the  well  by  draining. 

Holywell  and  Llaneilian  in  Anglesey  were 
always  considered  to  have  extraordinary  quali- 
ties cither  in  curing  disease  or  inflicting  curses. 
Apghared  Lloyd,  in  his  Histonj  of  Anglesey ,  says, 
after  bathing  in  the  well  the  sick  person  depasited 
alms  in  a  chest  (cyff-elian)  which  was  m  the 
church.  Cathrall  says  it  was  of  the  form  of  a 
trunk  studded  with  nails,  and  having  an  aperture 
at  the  top  to  slip  the  money  in.  It  got  so  full 
that  the  parishioners  purchased  three  farms  with 
the  money. 

In  a  passacro  fi*om  the  chancel  is  a  chnpel  ralh^d 
Myor,  or  a  place  of  moditation.  A  superstition 
attaches  to  a  chest  of  oak  built  into  the  wall.  I 
have  heard  that  years  ago  this  chest  was  the  de- 
posit for  money  which  was  always  dropped  into  it, 
as  the  curse  or  crooked  pin  was  thrown  into  the 
well. 

Often  in  my  youth  have  I  lieard  it  whispered 
that  corpse-lights  had  been  peon  on  the  dangerous 
reef  of  rocks  called  Cereg  of  Owyn  oil*  Penrhos, 
and  that  a  wreck  with  loss  of  life  was  C(*rtain  to 
occur.  Will-o'-tlie-Wisp  was  soon  dancing  in 
the  low  grounds,  luring  the  drunken  wanderer 
into  the  bog,  where  it  left  him  up  to  his  waist  in 
water ;  but  poor  Will-o'-the-Wisp  m  now  slarvtd 
to  death,  and  his  breath  is  taken  from  him ;  his 
light  is  quenched  for  ever  by  the  improving 
farmer,  who  h«s  drained  the  bog ;  and  instead  of 
the  rank  decaying  vegetation  of  the  autumn,  where 
bittenis  and  snipes  delighted  to  secrete  themselves, 
crops  of  corn  and  potatoes  are  grown. 

Then  again  we  heard  of  the  Fairies  or  the  Tyl- 
wyth.  Teg,  good  and  bad,  malicious  or  friendly. 
No  one  doubted  that  such  spirits  sported  them- 
selves in  their  favourite  haunts,  or  delighttni  to 
plague  mortal  men  and  women.  Old  Nan  Owen 
of  tifie  mountain,  or  Owen  tl\e  old  gardener,  would 
discourse  by  the  hour  in  low  and  wiiispered  tones 
about  the  mischievous  pranks  of  these  airy 
sprites. 


One  day,  some  thirty  years  ago,  Mn.  Stsaley 
went  to  one  of  the  old  houses  to  aee  an  old  woouHi 
she  often  visited.    It  was  a  wretched  horel ;  ao 
unusually  dark  when  she  opened  the  door,  thftt 
she  called  to  old  Betty  GriiBth,  but  getting  no 
answer,   she  entered  the  room.     A  little  tiny 
window  of  one  pane  of  glass  at  the  further  side 
of  the  room  gave  a  feeble  light.     A  £ew  cinden 
aligiit  in  the  miserable  grate  also  gave  a  glimmer 
of  light,  which  enabled  her  to  see  where  the 
be<l  u^ed  to  be  in  a  recess.     To  her  surprise  she 
saw  it  entirelv  shut  out  by  a  barricade  of  thick 
gortse,  st»  clos<ely  packed  and  piled  up  that  no  bed 
was  to  be  seen.    Again. she  called  Betty  Griffith; 
no  rcfipi^nse  came.    She  looked  ronnd  the  wretched 
room ;  the  only  symptom  of  life  was  a  plant  of 
the  wandL-rIng  Jew  {Saxifraga  tricolor),  ao  called 
by  the  poor  people,  and  dearly  loved  to  grace  their 
windo\Ys.    it  was  planted  in  a  brokenjar  or  tea- 
I  pot  on  the    window,   trailing  its  long    tendrils 
i  around,  with  here  and  there  a  new  formed  plant 
!  seeming  to  derive  sustenance  from  the  air  aloneL 
I  As  she  stood  struck  with  the  miserable  poverty  of 
j  the  human  abode,  a  faint  sigh  came  fnmx  be&ind 
I  the  goist\  She  went  close  and  said,  ''Betty,  whan 
are  you  Y  ''    Betty  instantly  recognised  her  Toiee, 
and  ventured  to  turn  herself  round  from  the  wall 
Mrs.  Stanley  then  made  a  small  ooening  in  Ae 
gorse  barricade,  which  sadly  pricked  her  fingeiv; 
i  she  saw  Betty  in  her  bed,  and  asked  her,  "  Aie 
I  you  not  w>  11  Y  are  you  cold,  that  you  are  so  closed 
.  up  'r  "   "  Cold !  no.     It  is  not  cold,  Mrs.  Staolej; 
.  it  is  the  Tvlwvth  Tejr ;  they  never  will  leave  me 
I  alone;  there  they  sit  making  faces  at  me,  and 
I  trying  to  come  to  me." — "  Indeed !   oh  how  I 
should  like  to  see  tliem,  Betty ! "— *'  Like  to  m 
them,  is  it  ?  Oh,  don't  say  so."—*'  Oh,  but,  Bett^ 
they  must  be  so  pretty  and  good." — *'QoodPth^ 
are  not  good." 

By  this  time  the  old  woman  got  excited,  aol 

Mrs.  Stanley  knew  she  should  hear  more  from  her 

about  the  /nines,  so  she  said,  "  Well,  I  ^'iU  gj 

i  out ;  they  never  will  come  if  I  am  here."    CM 

I  Betty  replied  sharply,  '*No,  do  not  go.     Tob 

I  nui.:t  not  leave  me.     I  will  tell  you  all  ibov^ 

j  them.    All !  they  come  and  pla^e  me  ndly.   * 

I  I  am  up  they  will  sit  upon  the  table ;  they  tnm 

I  my  milk  sour  and  spill  my  tea ;  then  they  wS 

not  l(Mivc  me  at  peace  in  bed,  but  come  all  vvuA 

mo  and  mock  at  me."  —  '*  But,  Betty,  tell  Be 

what  is  all  this  gorse  forP  It  must  hate  been 

iTi'dit  trouble  to  you  to  make  it  all  bo  claee."—* 

''Is  it  not  to  keep  them  off  P  They  cannot  get 

through  this,  it  pricks  them  so  bad.  and  then  I 

get  some  rest."    So  she  replaced  tae  gocaa  ifl^ 

left  old  l^tty  Griffith  liapny  in  h«  £fica  for 

getting  rid  of  the  Tylwyth  leg. 

Ilero  wo  find  in  the  nineteenih  eeulurv  tl9 
superstitions  of  the  middle  afnn;  Ae  qmm  wti 
in  witchcraft  that  aoiinated  IlleaaMr,  DoehMiff 


■  jiA 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


257 


Gloucester,  in  the  time  of  Henry  VI.,  with  her 
associates  Margery  Joiirdun  and  JSir  Nicholas 
Bolinbroke.  The  same  belief  still  intluences  the 
ignorant  peasant  in  Wales  to  ^et'k  revenue  and 
assistance  from  the  bhick  art.  The  \yv.)v  tortured 
frog  is  but  the  type  of  the  wax  niuuikin,  which, 
either  stuck  with  pins  in  mortal  parts  or  melted 
before  a  slow  fire,  was  supposed  to  bring  disease 
or  death  to  the  object  de.sired.  Witchery  and 
belief  in  spirits  is  a  remnant  of  savage  life,  and 
never  will  be  eradicated  from  the  human  mind, 
not  even  confined  to  the  ignorant  and  low-bred. 
Do  we  not  see  the  rankest  superstition  and  belief 
in  spirits  pervade  a  whole  continent,  and  occupy 
the  minds  of  the  most  distinguished  in  the  draw- 
ing-rooms of  the  highest  in  rank  and  wealth  in 
England  'r^ 

Tyler,  in  his  Primitive  Culture,  has  treated  this  ' 
subject  8Q  ably,  I  must  refer  to  him,  as  my  re- 
marks would  be  but  a  poor  repetition.     The  law  of  i 
Edgar  forbids  well   worshippings,   necromancers 
and  divinations,  and  stone  worshipping.     Canute 
isBued  the  same  law. 

Yet  Roman  Catholic  superstition  continued  this 
custom,  and  availed  itself  of  the  habit'  so  deeply 
rooted  in  the  minds  of  the  Pagan  inhabitants  of 
those  countries  in  which  they  established  their 
religion.*  Notwithstanding  their  laws  against  su- 
perstitious practices,  we  find  them  still  practised^ 
by  the  ignorant.  Stone  worship,  or  belief  in  the* 
properties  of  certain  stones,  both  in  Ireland  and 
Scotland,  still  lingers  amongst  the  people.  To  rub 
against  a  certain  holy  stone,  or  crawl  under  a 
hollow  stone  at  Ardenne,  was  witnessed  by  a 
relation  of  mine  a  few  years  ago.  The  belief  in 
the  Tirtues  of  springs  is  common ;  and  how  many 
holy  wells  are  met  with  which  are  still  supposed 
to  work  miracles ! 


Russian  Folk  ^^oke  :  Mice. — In  reading  about 
the  Devon  superstition  regaining  mice,  I  was  re- 
minded of  one  strongly  resembling  it,  which  ia 
prevalent  in  Russia.  The  sudden  appearance  of 
mice  in  a  house  formerly  free  of  them  is  con- 
mdered  a  certain  si^^n  of  death,  and  the  omen  was 
once  curiously  fulfilled  to  my  knowledge.  A 
fjBkmily  lived  a  year  and  a  half  in  a  house  without 
ever  bein^  troubled  with  mice,  but  in  the  second 
spring  quite  a  swarm  of  them  appeared  in  some 
of  the  rooms.  The  servant  constantly  complained 
of  the  difficulty  she  had  to  keep  anything  clean  or 
safe  from  them,  tis  they  penetrated  drawers  and 
cupboards,  specially  delighting,  apparently,  in 
scampering  over  the  plate  and  crockery.  In  June 
the  father  of  the  family  died,  and  the  mice  dis- 
appeared as  unaccountably  as  they  came;  the 
family  remained  in  the  house  till  October,  but 

*  UagU^a  Hittanf  of  Angh' Saxon  CkurtA, 


saw  them  no  more.  Black  beetles  appearing  in 
like  manner  are  also  considered  to  prognosticate 
some  event,  mamage  as  well  as  death.     Aieam. 

• 

V.S.  I  forgot  to  say  that  no  attempts  were 
made  for  their  extirpation,  either  with  traps  or 
poisoji. 

Durham  Folk  Lore:  Cure  for  Toothache. 
Some  years  ago  I  had  an  hour  to  spare  whilst  on 
business  in  the  rural  village  of  "VN  est  Auckland, 
and  strayed  into  the  ancient  graveyard  attached 
to  St.  Helen's  church.  The  aged  sexton  was, 
with  an  assistant,  engaged  in  digging  a  grave  for 
an  adult,  and  during  the  process  he  threw  up  a 
skull  in  my  presence.  He  took  it  up  in  his  hands, 
and  remarked  to  his  companion  that  if  he  was 
ever  troubled  with  the  toothache  he  was  only  to 
pull  one  of  the  teeth  out  with  his  own,  and*  h-e 
would  be  cured  on  the  spot. 

C.  M.  Carlton. 

Advertiser  Office,  Durham. 

Irish  Superstitiox. — A  neighbour  of  mine, 
Protestant,  churchwarden,  and  of  a  certain  re- 
spectable position  as  a  farmer,  usually  addressed, 
for  instance,  as  W.  Longlegs,  Esq.,  recently  had 
his  hand  wounded  with  a  thorn.  The  thorn  was 
extracted;  but  shortly  afterwards,  on  the  same 
hand,  some  two  inches  from  the  thorn  wound, 
appeared  a  gathering,  which  burst,  and  is  called 
here  "  a  running  worm."  After  some  weeks  of 
sullering  from  it,  causing  the  arm  to  swell,  &c. 
&c.,  the  patient  became  better — on  which  I  con- 
gratulated him.  He  said  in  reply :  ^'  I  have  been 
a  great  fool,  tormenting  and  quacking  myself  for 
the  last  two  months,  when  I  might  have  got 
cured  at  once  by  sending  for  Jack  So-and-so." 
"  Who  is  he  ?  "  "  lie  is  a  seventh  son,  that  lives 
over  yonder  at  the  bog  side:  he  just  rubbed  the 
place  with  his  hand  gently  once  or  twice,  and  the 
worm  w«te  healed  right  off."  "  You  are  very 
easy  of  belief,"  I  said,  *^  and  I  never  so  much  as 
heard  of  a  running  worm.^^  "  Oh  !  there  can  be 
no  doubt  about  it ;  for  Jack  told  me  he  saw  the 
worm  once,  and  he  cured  my  daughter  once 
before  this  of  a  running  worm  in  her  leg  by 
merely  touching  it  with  his  hand,  and  my  neigh- 
bour Tom's  two  little  girls."  This  piece  of  folk 
lore  comes  from  Meath. 

Norfolk  Weather  Sating. — 

Rain  afore  chutch  (church). 
Rain  all  the  week. 
Little  or  much." 


tt 


Anow. 

Throwing  the  Slipper.  —  Reading  an  old 
Latin  treatise  on  the  word  Juul  (Christmas), 
written  by  a  Dane,  I  came  upon  a  Damsh  stann, 
quoted  from  Lyschander^s  Chronicon  OroenUmdut 
rhythmicony  which  I  do  not  remember  to  have- 
seen  anywhere  else :  — 


NOTES  AND  QUEKIES. 


{fill's. IX.  Uabch  80, Tl. 


"  Han  sendte  til  Irland  sin  akiden  aknc, 
Og  im  den  Konge,  torn  dei  iDonnc  bu« 
Han  Bkulde  dem  hiederlig  b»re 
r»a  JuuleJag  i  Bin  kongelig  Ptsgt, 
Of;  hjeade  ban  barde  ^I  Ri^e  og  Magt 
Af  Norgea  og  Ijlernes  Ilerre." 


To  vivr  them  with  hnoour 
Un  Clirislniaa  Any  in  hirroyn 
And  ID  own  thit'he  had  liii  |i 
From  the  Lord  of  Korway  and  the  la 


ind  fcingilom 


The  Norwegian  king  here  alluded  to  is  pro- 
bably Magniis  Berfoetfi  (barefuot),  who  reigneJ 
from  1093'tfi  llOi,  and  conquered  a  portion  of 
Ireland  and,  the  islnnds  round  Scotland.  Tliia 
stanza  aeems  to  refer  to  n  cuatom  of  sending  shoea 
to  another  a&  a  mark  of  dpniinian  on  the  part  of 
the  sender,  and  a  sign  of  siibjoetion  on  the  part  of 
the  receiver.  It  is  worth  obacrving  that  the  shoes 
were  dirty — a  fact  which  brings  it  alill  nearer  to 
the  throwing  the  eiipper.  Tliere  can  therefore 
bo  little  doubt  that  tne  throwing  the  slipper  at 
weddings  originally  meant  the  dominion  of  one, 
and  the  subjection  of  the  other,  of  tbe  married 
conplc.  We  may  imagine  that  ladies  did  it  in  a 
mocking  way  to  one  of  their  numlier  who  Bad 
RLibjected  herself  to  the  dominion  of  her  hnaband, 
while  they  themselves  did  not  yet  acknowledge 
anyone  as  their  lord  and  master.  We  can  fanny 
that  bv  this  tbey  wished  to  eay  figuratively,  we 
are  BtiU  free,  we  are  our  own  masters,  but  thou 
hast  now  given  up  thy  liberty  and  independence. 
We  can  alKO  suppose,  which  Ik  perhaps  more 
probable,  that  ladies  wished  to  furnish  their  friend 
with  a  Euflicient  i<tock  of  old  shoes,  which  she 
might  make  her  husband  wi'ar  an  a  sign  of  liomage 
and  submission.     And  it  is  still  a  common   ei- 

Eression  in  Denmark,  that  a  ladv  wlio  rules  livr 
usbaiid  "  has  him  under  the  flipper."  There  is 
perhaps  the  same  meaning  in  "  Over  Edom  will  1 
cast  my  shoe,"  I's.  k.  8:  cf.  Deut.  xnv.  fl,  nnd 
I!uth  iv.  7, 8,  Rs  in  the  scndins  of  the  shoe  in  the 
Banish  stanza.  J6s  A.  IXj.vltali'n. 

Advocates"  Libra r;-,  Edinburgh. 

Irish  Custom. — Would  my  quondam  acqmunt- 
ance  and  your  valued  correspondent  Mil.  Maorice 
Lkhihan  kindly  inform  an  Irish  dabbler  in  au- 
tique  lore  how  far  the  subjoined  quotation  from 
Bishop  Kennett  is  now  applicable  ? — 

"  It  IB  a  good  and  pious  cnalom  in  Irpland  that  the 
natives  on  pussing  over  a  liridge  invariably  pull  off  their 
hats,  or.  giving  some  other  token  of  re.»pect,  pray  fur  tbe 
soul  of  tlie  builder  of  the  briilge." 

WiLFniD  OF  Oalwat. 

TrNEr  "GiLTY  Coate  rMOY."— This  tune, 
mentioned  as  not  vet  identified  in  TV  Kiixburghe 
Bnlladf,  i.  248  (Ballad  Society),  should  no  doubt  , 


Shakespeare's  Fresch;  "  Kihb  Hmibt  V," 
Act  hi.  Sc.  7.— At  p.  347,  4*  8.  i.  "N.  ft  Q." 
I  I  expressed  my  belief  that  the  danpbin's  qnota- 
I  tion  from  2  St.  PeL  ii.  22  was  from  a  French  ver- 
sion. In  "  I.e  Nouveau  TedamaU,  e'ett  d  dire  La 
Nounetlc  Allimiee  de  Kuttre  Seignair  Jimt-ChruL, 
.  Se  vend  a  Oharenton  par  Antoine  Cellier,  bj. 
i  H.sc.Lxix.,"  and  shown  to  be  tbe  authorised  vei- 
I  wion  of  the  French  Rerormed  Church  by  b«Cg 
[  followed  bv  a  Metrical  Version  of  the  Psnlma, 
I  with  tlieir  Tunes — Forms  of  Prayer — B^dsm— 
Holy  Supper — and  Marriage,  Catechism,  sad  Con- 
fession of  i'aith  in  forty  articles,  I  find — 

"I.echien  GFt  retonrne  &  son  propre  vomlascDHat;  & 
la  (ruye  lav^  \^ett  rrlnuruci:  a  le  vcautrer]  au  bomUv." 

That  is,  these  are  the  exact  words  of  the  dmopUa 
I  with  tbe  exception  of  those  I  have  pUced  wltliil 
'  brackets,  and  which  were  doubtless  atmck  out 
by  Shakespeare  to  make  the  saylnf;  more  itat, 
quotable,  and  proverb-like, 

A  similar  edition  is  noted  by  Brunet  U  pub- 
lished at  I^allaye  inlOU,  but  he  Dives  no  fnvthv 
I  information  than  that  tbe  metricu  vernon  of  tit 
Psalms  was  by  Marot  and  Bezs.  I  wDuId  1^ 
wlio  are  'the  authors  of  the  translfttion  of  tht 
New  Testament,  and  when  was  it  sat  fivthf 
Also,  WAS  it  an  original  veraOQ,  or  founded  Oi n 
older  one?  B.  NlcBOLKor. 


Tbe  following  original  pajier  is  withoat  d>t^ 
but  can,  I  think,  ii'om  the  writing  and  from  int*^ 
nat  evidence,  be  assigned-  to  the  early  part  of  tti 
reign  of  Charles  I.  In  liushworth's  Buloned 
CiJhcliiais,  under  tbe  year  1834,  a  petition  on  lh> 
same  subject  will  be  found,  which  wh  refoRed  t> 
the  Archbishop  of  Canterbury  and  other  coni^ 
sioners,  and  afterwards  to  the  king  himsdt  but 
without  any  result.  "  The  ki;ig,''  says  Msftlf^ 
in  hie //Won/  of  London  (1.306),  "was  mfiaidta 
make  an  absolute  decision  thereof,  aeeiag  it  VU 
against  the  general  sense  of  the  people."  . 

£y.  Fk.  Saiusr. 

"  The  maiDtenance  of  tbe  dergle  of  London  la  tiiM 
nast  cheillv  coasisted  oF  lirhea  and  olfrlngea. 

.the)  the  citiiena  paid  the  tentb  of  tbdn  f 
plnyinentji ;  v'»  if  they  atill  paid  than  DM  M 
iii;iii  Biioiild  pay  more  tithea  then  Bome  one  ofthalinrf* 
are  now  worth. 

"The  oliIationBOr  ofTrin^  -mtn  tha  payaHntiatf  <^ 
Ihoreslaof  honwa  and  Bhoppa  W»  were  irtJed  l^a*"" 
(litulion  of  lioycr  Niger,  who  traa  B.  of  London  in  tkl 
yrars  l'i2S,  who  appointed  tbe  intubilanti  and  aBOS|lV 
oFeverie  houao  and  aboppto  offar  to  hiiPanon  orCuA 
upon  everv  Sundny  and  hnlliday  a  farthing  of  avlf  Plrt 
or  annuall  penc'an,  ii<^  iron  to  iij*  V'  intb  pJoJl* 


tizens  beK! 
ne  by  law 
o  prodsmatlc 


.'to  detaincthcas  dnUiLMppMbgttM 
Wbcrmpon  Uw  MidUiv bmlte^ 
lona  conmsnndld  fttfywMrfliW 


4*S.  IX.  March  30, '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


259 


under  paine.  of  FiDe  and  imprisonment,  and  afterwards 
a  decree  was  made  by  certaine  lordes  by  vertue  of  an 
act  of  Parliament  for  the  payment  of  ij»  ix<*  in  the 
pound  rent,  of  all  houses  and  shopps  w^'^out  fraude  and 
covin. 

**  Since  w«*»  time  some  have  devised  and  put  in  practice 
many  frauds  to  defeate  them  of  theire  tithes  ;  as  for  ex- 
ample : 

"  Some  reserve  theire  rents  by  bonds. 

"  Others  make  double  leases,  one  to  shew  y«  parson, 
the  other  for  the  landlord. 

*'  Others  let  implements  for  great  sum?,  and  houses  for 
liUe. 

**  Others  call  theire  shopps  by  y«  names  of  stalls,  stand- 
ings, and  sheds. 

**  Others  call  theire  rents  by  new  names  or  yearly  In- 
comes, fines,  Anuities,  Penc^ons,  new  years  guifls,  weeklie 
paiments,  &c 

**  Devises  and  trickes  never  hard  of  in  times  past. 

"And  whereas  the  Parsons  have  from  time  to  time 
complained  to  fhe  Lo.  Maiors  (by  the  foresaid  decree 
appointed  theire  Judges),  and  could  get  from  them  no 
releife ;  yea,  whereas  all  other  Kcclesiasticall  Judges 
have  daily  punished  the  detainers  of  tithes  by  excommu- 
Dication  and  other  censures  of  the  church,  the  Lo.  Maiors 
never  punished  any  one  man  according  to  the  statute 
(that  ever  could  be  hard  of)  for  detention  of  tithe.  And 
also  many  of  them  use  these  fraudes  themselves,  not  only 
in  theire  owne  private,  but  also  in  letting  the  houses  and 
ahopps  belonging  to  the  citie,  as  of  one  house.  The  Maior 
and  Committies  call  the  increased  rent  by  the  name  of  a 
Fine,  and  in  a  writing  upun  record  do  in.sert  the  cause 
why  they  call  it  so  to  bee  (to  a  voide  further  charges  to 
the  Parson). 

**  And  they  let  the  shopps  in  the  exchaunge  by  the 
names  of  standings  and  stalls,  although  they  were  given 
them  by  S'  Thomas  Gresham,  by  the  name  of  shopps : 
and  also  that  the  ladie  Gresham  his  wife  let  them  by 
that  name :  by  which  tricke  the  Parsons  to  whome  the 
tithe  of  those  shopps  belonge,  have  beene  defeated  of 
theire  duties. 

**  And  moreover  they  have  by  the  decree  gon  about  to 
suppresse  the  Parsones  livings  and  yet  raised  their  owne 
impropriac'ons  of  Christ  church  from  50'^  per  annum 
neere  to  300'*  p'  Annu,  whereupon  the  Parsons  about  three 
years  sinc«  petitioned  his  Ma''®  to  referr  the  considerac*on 
of  their  wronges  to  the  most  reverend  and  honorable  lordes 
the  Lo.  Archb.  of  Cant.,  his  grace  the  Lo.  Chaunc.  of  Eng- 
land, the  b.b.  of  London  and  Winchester,  and  the  two 
lo.  Cheife  Justices. 

*•  The  19^^  lords  upon  hearing  advised  them  to  prosecute 
a  case  before  the  lo.  Maior,  and  if  thev  found  no  reliefe 
from  him  to  appeale  to  the  lo.  Chauncelo'  fur  helpe. 

**  Whereupon  the  Parson  of  Gracecharch  complained  of 
oneGougb,  who  had  hired  part  of  one  M'  Burrill's  howse, 
and  paid  therefore  30"  per  AnnQ  rent,  and  denied  to  pay 
any  tithe  for  it. 

**M'  Bnrrill  the  landlurd  appeared  for  his  tenant,  and 
confesseth  30'*  per  anna  to  be  paid  to  him  by  said  Gough, 
and  that  five  pound  of  the  said  summ  was'rent,  and  the 
Other  som  of  25"  to  bee  a  tine,  although  it  was  quarterly 

Kid  yr*^  the  rent,  and  as  rent,  and  that  the  house  was 
and  for  the  payment  thereof. 

**  The  Lo.  Maior  ordered  for  Burrill,  and  gave  not  one 
Mxe  pence  increase  to  the  Parson  :  And  3*et  about  the  same 
time  the  said  Lo.  Maior  made  an  order  for  the  farmor  of 
their  forenamed  impropriation  of  Christchurch,  by  w«^  the 
tithe  of  one  house  divided  was  raised  from  53'  to  18'*  per 
annll. 

**  And  also  whereas  for  400  years  or  thereabouts  Rent 
ibr  tiUie  in  London  hath  beene  annua  pensio  pro  qua 
dnmm  heatur,  as  appeareth  by  many  Recordes ;  the  said 


I  lo.  Maior  by  the  advice  of  his  counsell  alloweth  that,  only 
!  for  rent  w***  is  reserved  out  of  houses  or  shopps  for 
theire  heires ;  or  for  w^'*  a  distresse  may  be  taken,  etc. 

**  By  w*^**  meanes  the  Parsons  must  hereafter  take  theire 
tithes  out  of  such  yearly  payments  w*:'^  it  shall  please 
I  the  citizens  to  reserve  for  theire  heires:  and  where  no 
distresse  can  bee  taken,  they  must  be  distressed  for  tithe. 
And  moreover  whereas  all  fraude  is  forbidden  in  gentre 
by  the  first  clause  of  the  decree,  the  lo.  Maior  by  his 
order  limitted  fraude  to  the  Icssning  of  rent  accostomed, 
or  to  reserving  no  rent  at  all,  by  w^^^*  meanes  a  citizen 
may  hereafter  let  out  part  of  his  house  never  rented 
before  for  a  pepper  come  or  sixe  pence  per  annO  rent,  and 
take  40**  per  aimQ  in  the  name  of  a  fine  (as  some  do 
alredie),  and  pay  no  tithe  at  alL 

"  The  Parson  agreived  complained  in  his  Ma^'*  high 
court  of  Chauncery  where  he  hath  had  three  hearings 
and  hath  found  the  most  honorable  the  lo.  keeper  &  the 
reverend  Judges  to  bee  his  most  compassionate  patrons. 

"  But  whereas  the  Councell  of  the  Citie  reports  that  it 
is  impossible  for  them  to  have  any  reliefe  theire,  because 
the  law  is  defective,  and  that  M'*  Burrill  hath  offered  to 
lay  100"  to  ten  shillings  to  the  same  effect.  They  must 
bee  most  humble  suters  to  his  Ma^«  beeing  theire  supreme 
ordinary  to  relieve  them  as  King  Hen.  the  8*^  did  theire 
predecessors  in  the  like  case. 

•*  Otherwise  for  complayning  they  are  likly  to  have 
the  burthen  of  fraudes  doubled  and  tripled  on  them,  and 
also  to  have  that  little  yi^^  hereafter  men  have  given  of 
conscience  in  this  case  taken  from  them,  and  moreover 
hereafter  to  bee  divided,  and  tlie  tithe  of  all  mansion 
houses  shalbee  at  a  stinte  for  ever  to  the  utter  undoing  of 
the  clergie  of  London. 

**  Motives  for  reliefe. 

**  1.  ffrom  the  persones  of  them  that  complaine  who 
are  such  as  have  cure  of  theire  soules,  ana  yet  have  theire 
bread  taken  away  from  them  by  fraude,  theire  labors  and 
charges  beeing  now  much  more  then  at  the  making  of 
the  decree. 

"  2.  ffrom  the  parties  wronging  them,  who  are  not  all 
in  generall  (for  theire  are  many  good  citizens  who  do 
abhorr  and  hate  these  frauds)  but  for  the  most  part,  they 
are  men  either  misliking  the  ecclesiastique  government, 
who  by  those  fraudes  take  the  maintenance  due  to  them, 
who  have  cure  of  theire  soules,  and  give  it  to  the  factions 
that  humor  them :  And  also  men  living  upon  interest 
mony,  who  although  they  receive  theire  tenth  without 
fraude  and  covin,  yet  they  have  divised  many  of  these 
trickes  to  deceive  theire  Parsons  of  God's  tenth. 

"  3.  ffrom  the  place,  to  witt  the  richest  in  the  king- 
dome,  and  theire  Parsons  livings  are  the  poorest  not 
exceeding  20,  25,  30,  40,  50",  and  few  above  one  hundred 
marks  per  Annum.*  There  are  few  livings  in  the  Coun- 
trie  taxed  as  the  livings  in  London  are,  but  yeld  two  or 
three  times  more  profllit  to  their  Incumbents. 

"  4.  ffrom  the  inequallitie  of  payment  by  reason  of  these 
fraudes,  for  by  calling  of  the  yearly  rent,  fine,  M'  Burrill, 
who  hath  bene  called  upon  to  bee  Sheriff  of  London, 
payeth  lesse  tithe  then  the  poore  Clarke  of  the  parish, 
and  some  one  rich  Alderman  by  these  trickes  hath  paied 
lesse  then  the  poore  beadle  of  the  wardc. 

*'  And  whereas  the  ordinar}'  objection  is.  if  these  fraades 
should  bee  taken  away  the  Parsones  should  have  to 
much ;  whereas  now  they  are  constrained  many  of  them 
to  live  of  the  charities  of  theire  people. 

**  Although  these  frauds  should  bee  taken  away,  yet  the 
benefices  w^in  the  walls,  should  but  paralell  in  estate 
the  benefices  in  the  contrie  of  the  like  taxe. 


*<*  The  London  Benefices  are  higher  rated  in  the  K. 
bookes  then  others  in  any  p'  of  the  kingdome. 


^60 


NOTE S  AND  QUERIES.  [4'^  s.  ix.  biaboh  so.  7 


**  Yet  tbe  Panones  arc  contented  to  take  an  the  citie  I  good  they  miglit  have  done  and  thongllt  of  doing 


Iviie'icei*  to  bee  i^tintod  at  in<>"  per  annum  and  Icsso :  tlio 
oth'T  tor  y«  most  part  at  lyO",  and  y'  U-st  at  2ii0»  per 
■ir-jin  ant!  no  more." 


vc  •» 


•  HELL  IS  PAVED  WITH  GOOD  INTENTION'S. 

In  VjOo  S.  Francis  de  Sides  writes  to  Madame 
iie  Chantal : — 

*•  Dt)  not  be  tronhlcd  by  S.  Bornnrd's  snyinp:  that  *  II*-!! 
i<  full  '»f  pr^oil  intentions  and  wilN/    Thrre  are  two  kinds 
of  j;;o«)d  will.     One  say.s  *  I  would  fjiin  do  well,  but  it  is 
Ininl  to  do,  and  w  I  shall  not  d<>  it.'    The  other  «iv:«,  *  I  j 
m«'an  to  do  ri^ht,  but  1   have  li'>=s  strenjrth  than  jrood  i 
will,  an<l  that  hinders  me.'    The  lirst  of  these  fdls  Hi-ll, 


reading 

*•  The  rood  to  hell  is  paved  with  good  intentiinn." 
.  But  the  fact  is,  hv  '*  good  intentions  "  we  merely 
,  mean  intentions  of  prood :  such  intentions  haTe  no 
actual  good  in  them  unh'ss  carried  out  as  far  as 
pos^ble.  As  r).  Bernard  says :  '*  Voluntas  tamen 
,  bona  non  est,  si  ni)n  operatur  quod  potest"  {Ik 
I  Litenoi'i  Domoy  c.  2.)  The  ambiguous  phrase 
puzzlod  tliis  correspondent,  and  made  him  write 
'  lii.s  quaint  **Note  of  Admiration!"  Coleriflge 
observes  in  his  Omniana : — 


"  I  have  sumewhcre  read  this  ^rmark  :  Omne 
est  vaiitntarinm,  anl  roluntatc  originis  nut  origine 


the 'se.rond  Paradise.    The  first  only  iH-ins  to  wi^^h,  but  i  ^//m" /^uaintlyas  this  is  expressed,  it  in  well  worth 


sideration,  and  i^ives  the  true  meaning  of  Haxter*8  flunoot 
ftaving — Midi  is  paved  with  good  intentions.' "•—AMw 
Tlcol  Poiit.  antt  Miscrl.  Loud.  1853,  p.  359. 

Q.  Q. 

Pikurkpoxt's  liF'.FrGK. — At  the  northern  end  of 
St.  Janl(>s'^^  Stri'or  is  a  refupre  for  foot  pnssengen, 
and  on  the  foot  of  the  lamp-post,  in  the  centre  of 

I  the  refuge,  is  inscribed  *'  Pierrepont's  Refuge."  I 
have  been  told  that  this  refuge  was  erected  Ht  the 
expanse  of  an  Hon.  Mr.  IMerrepont,  a  membff 
of  White's  Club  and  of  the  Turf  Club  then  in 
Arlington  Street,  who  was  in  the  habit  of  pasnng 

!  across  tho  top  of  St.  James's  Street  when  coa- 
st antly  going  from  one  club  to  the  other,  and 

I  ftuind  this  piirticular  crossing  exceedingly  daoger- 

I  ous.     I  am  assured  that  on  the  very  day  that  this 


hjes  rmt  go  on  to  will;  such  wislips  have  n«)  eourapr<». 
tlu'v  an?  liiere  abortions,  and  thus  they  hrlp  to  people 
ht'ii.  iJut  the  seoond  results  in  earne«it*  well-formed  de- 
sin*.-  :  .ind  thus  Daniel  isealh'd  *  a  man  of  dt^-in'S.'  *  May 
<if>*l  vouchsafe  to  give  us  the  perpetual  aid  of  His  Holy 
."*»pirjt  I 

Th«?  above  is  taken  from  an  excellent  Sfhrfio?! 
frf.m  't?ir  Spiritual  Letters  of  ,S.  Jhoicia  Jh  Sfiirs, 
trni-^lnted  by  the  author  of  A  Dominican  Artist , 
ruid  lately  published  by  Uivingtnns  (Let.  xii. 
;\  70).  The  lett*»r  is  numb»-rod  71  in  the  fdilion 
i'liiis".  The  saying  is  ([iiot'd  again  in  anoth^T  of 
>.  Kr;incis's  lotti-rs  ( Liv.  2,  Ep.  '2'1)  in  the  (Mlition 
nriiit^'d  by  Li'onard  in  I7i!r),  and  given  in  (^»llot*s 
-»»'K'Cti'Mi  from  S.  Francis  tMitilLid  La  J'rair  ct 
StJif/r  Pit'-t{\  part  I.  chap.  7o,  Sume  years  ago  I 
hunted  for  it  in  S.  Heniard,  but  without  success. 

In  the  First  Series  of  *'  X.  &  (i."  it  was  disrnssed,  |  i>jfiipre  was  opened  f.>r  the  use  of  the  public,  Bfr. 
but  not  traced  up  higher  than  (leorge  HrrlK-rt's  *  i Me rrepont,  when  crossing  the  streets  in  soma  other 
C'dlection  of  pn)verbs.  Your  Maltt»s<'  corre.-j>v,i(l-  part  of  ]x>ndon,  was  run  over  bv  a  Hanaom  cab 
iM:t  quMtes  (without  naniin^O  a  Spanish  w.>rk  of  |  and  killed.  iL  A.  St.  J.  M. 

I       'We  may  take  this  opportunity  of  sacnc^atlnif  tint 
tlu-^e  Kii/ivutirth  for  foot  passenj^ers  genendly  ahonld  be 
(*aIKd  *'  \V»TM MATHS,'*  after  the  venerable  nobleman  to 
whom  the  iiublic  are  mainly  indebted  for  their  introto- 
t ion,  the  late  Marquess  of 'Westmeath.    lie  itwasvho 
first  called  attention  to  the  dan^irer  of  our  streeti  1^  At 
Keturns  uf  person<«  killed  or  injured  in  the  metrmiflifa, 
which  he  moved  for  in  many  aucceffiive  seniolil;  asd 
there  can  be  little  doubt  that  to  these  Returns  veewt 
the  erection  of  Wkstmeaths  at  all  oar  most  dangeroof 
croysin^. — Kd.] 

Natural. — Some  time  ago  there  was  *  dim^ 
sion  in  *'N.  &  l).'^  as  to  the  word  naUaroim 
applied  tr)  legitimate  offspring.  The  foUowiiV 
monumental  inscription  from  Str7pe*B  L^a  «■ 
Art  A  of  Arrhhishop  WMtgift  is  *  good  imrtMBt** 
point :  — 

**  Geor;;e,  the  third  son  of  Heniy,  and  brollMr  of  i 
archbishop. ....  was  buried  in  the  chaneel  of  ths 
of  Sl  Faith's,  under  St  Panl'a,  where  he  had  ~ 
gravestone  this  inscription:  'Hns  Bath  As 


ijit'  r  date  in  which  the  provi^rb  is  quoted  ai.d  ex- 
pl;iincvl  thus: — 

•*  rh«re  is  no  sinner,  how  l>ad  >oover,  but  hath  nii 
inti'iition  to  iK'tter  his  life,  although  death  doth  surprise 
T,ip^/-_..  X.  AM.^."  vL  120. 

Tlie  force  of  thf»  saying  is  brought  out  by  the 

wonJs  of  S.  James,  iv.  17 — 

"Ti»  I)ini  that  knoweth  to  do  j^ood  and  do^'.tb  it  not,  to 
■iiim  it  is  sin." 

And  Ecclus.  xiv.  I'l,  14 — 

'•  Do  a^wA  unto  thy  friend  l)eft)re  thou  die,  and  accord- 
in:;  to  thv  aliilitv  stretch  out  thv  hand  and  t;ive  to  hiui. 
Defraud  not  thy>elf  of  the  ;;ood  day,  and  let  not  the  part 
of  a  ;;t)od  desire  overpass  thee." 

Wo  can  well  believe  that,  in  the  case  of  un- 
liappy  souls  after  death,  the  pains  of  memory  will 
much  enhance  their  misery :  remembering  that 

*  Dan.  X.  11.  See  the  text  of  the  Vulgate  and  the 
margin  of  our  Englifth  Tersion. 


4^S.1X.  MaecjiSI 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


COBSFB.      I 

SiGss  ns  Doorposts.  . —  M»n_v  of  the  even- -day  .i 
obacrvancea  of  thu  modern  Jews  are  matters  of  i 
ciirioMty  to  people  generally.     Withiu  the   Inst  i 
tew   weeks   1   have   received    tkim   a   friend    iu  \ 
Brighton  two  ta'sii^h,  or  sifms  found  n^Ied  to 
t)ie   doorposts  in  a  house  at  Brighton  that  bfid 
been  tenanted  hj  Jews.     Those  nre  small  pieces 
of  prepared  skin,  about  two  and  a  quarter. inches 
square,  each   folded  by  five  crea-ses,  so  a.^  to  fro 
into  ft  narrow  Hat  tin  case.     Id  one  side  of  this  is 
a  round  hole  provided  with  a  hit  of  transparent 
talc.     The  two  inscribed  skins  are  exactly  alilie, 
eoch  having  on  one  side,  in  twenty-two  very  small 
and  neatly  written  lines  of  Hebrew,  the  following 
passages  from  Deuteronomy : — tL  4-0,  li.  13-31. 
The   Hebrew  is   unpointed,    but   certain   letters 
have  the  tagmn,  or  conmavi^ata,  nsual  in  sacred 
MHS.,   and   to   which   wonderful   mystic   mean- 
ings are  attached.    The  words  jftDt?  and  nntt  are 
written  with  the  Inst  letter  of  each  word  lirrr/e, 
(13    printed    in    ordinary    Hebrew    Bibles,     also 
for   mystical    reasons.      On   the   other  side    are  ' 
the  words   Cnicu,   li'much^az,    Coozii,   wJiich  nre  ' 
fuurt  to  be  the  names  of  three  angels,  formed  from  I 
the  words  for  "  The  Lord  our  Uod  is  t!ie  I.jord,"  ] 
on   cabbalistic   principles,   by  taking  the   letters  I 
following  those   in   the   original   sentence :  thus,  < 
from  mn"  wa  get  Itl3,  because  a  follows  '  in  the 
alphabet,  1  follows  n,  and  t  follows  V     (So  we 
might  make  "  jol "  out  of  "  i»t,"  becausoj  follows 
a.  0  follows  H,  and  I  follows  k.)     On  the  back  is 
nl.io  the  word  HE?,  iJituhlai,  "  Almighty,"  which 
fasppenn  to  consist  of  the  initial  letters  ol' the  three  ' 
votdn  in  the  sentence  equivalent  to  "keepoth  the  I 
doors  of  Israel,''  or,  a^  some  s»v, "  the  habitation."  I 
This  word  is  seen  through  tfie  talc  above  men-  | 
tioned,  and  is  saluted  and  kissed  by  the  devout  1 
Jew  in  his  going  out  and  in   his  coming  in.     In  | 
oae  of  my  specimens  the  talc  has  been  absent,  so  | 
that  the  sacred  word  is  nearly  kissed  nwny.     For  : 
Tery    full     information     respecting    phyiiicteriea,  ' 
fringfs,  and  m':ifln(A,»*s  now  used  by  the  Jews, 
eee  Margolioutb's  FuadamtatiA  PrmcijtUt  of  Mo- 
Am  Jiiiirntni  ImttH^tfd,  London,  184-1,  a  very 
learned  nnd  interesting  work,  although  the  author 
is  occasionally  led  into  foolish  remarks  by  strong 
party  bias.  J.  T.  F. 

Halfldd  Hill,  Durban. 


Penitentiary,  Millbank.  I  wn.-i  present  at  a 
meeting  ou  board  the  vessel,  when  the  Duke  of 
Leinster  took  the  chair.  Admiral  Sir  Kichaid 
Keats,  governor  of  Greenwich  llo-nital,  and  Ad- 
miral Sir  Wm.  Ilotham  were  aUo  (livre,  and  they 
spoke  of  the  great  dual  of  scivice  the  ship  had 
seen  independent. of  going  one  iii'  the  Polar  ex- 
peditions. Now  last  week  I  saw  that  the  "  Cbaoti' 
tleer"  had  returned  from  the  I'ueitic,  and  vras  to 
be  put  out  of  commis^on.  The  tonnage  of  the 
vessels  corresponds.  Is  it  poasil.le  that  a  ship 
would  remain  so  long  in  serviet-  y  Would  it  he 
improper  to  ask  in  "  N.  &  Q."  the  number  of 
Tears  that  a  man-of-war  is  supposed  to  do  dutv  P 

H.  w.  b. 

"•AniBELLA's  GnosT."— Who  is  the  author  of 
this  old  poem^    The  first  line  runs  thus — 


"  Poor  J 


ibeUaoi 


SCRUTATOB. 

Bii.tAD.— W'here  is  the  entire  ballad  contun- 
ing  this  verse  to  be  found  ?  — 

"  Alas !  bv  flome  ilcgrec  of  wne 
Weo^rTblisinmstcain; 
The  hfart  can  ne'er  a  trausp,irt  know 
Tliat  never  feels  ■  paiD." 

T.  W.  R. 

[See  a  song  in  tbe  Pnelkal  Workt  vt  George  Lord 
LyitdloD,  edit.  1805,  p,  33.J 

Bakonies  iir  Abetasce. — Where  can  I  meet 
with  information  respecting  baronies  in  abeyance? 
Is  there  any  work  ra  which  the  descent  of  the 
coheirsand  their  existing  representatives  are  traced 
out  and  deljuled  ?  Such  a  list  would,  I  think, 
be  a  useful  appendix  to  the  Peerage.  I  have  for 
some  time  pn.'t  been  endeavouring  to  arrange  a 
list  of  this  description;  but  as  yet  with  but  jinrtfal 


),  King  Street,  Leigh,  Lsncuhire 

"BrtiTOKS,  STRIKE  Home!' 


W.  J.  D.  Pin 


Age  of  Ships:  ttib  " Chakticleer."  —  On 
Saptuaber  37, 1833,  I  was  in  company  with  Qeo. 
Fmim,  foTmeity  surgeon  of  th«  "  San  Jose^" 
•WKBtaA  ooa  of  the  aorgeons  ofH.U.S."Cbuiti- 
cfipr,"  th«  %  horpXti  aUp  mooied  opposite  the 


_ ._, _.       Buppojed 

that  Sir  Hobert  Howard  altered  Jonson's  [.■■]  jday 
Soiidaca,  so  as  to  adapt  it  for  the  stage  as  an 
opera.  Purcell  composed  the  mu^ic.  "Britons, 
strike  home  I"  was,  lam  told,  the  chorus  to  one 
of  tbe  songs.  Can  you  give  me  the  name  of  tbe 
song  to  which  the  chorus  above  named  is  at- 
tached ?  Francis  E.  Paget. 

Elfurii  iiector)',  Tnmwortb. 

r  Cnnsolt  "Bondma,  ■  Trngedy,  allarad  from  Beaumont 
nni  Fletcher,  tbe  Music  composed  a.i>.  IR'jS,  br  Henrr 
I*urcell,  edite<i  sad  preoeded  by  an  Historical  Sketch  of 
Esrir  English  Dramatic  Music,  bf  Edward  F.  Rlnbiult, 
F.8.A,  1842,"  fol.  Tbe  couplet  ocmrt  in  Act  III.  Sc  2  : 
Duet— lit  and  Srd  Dtmi, 


raight  displsy : 
ir  decleies 


"  To  ano! 

Now,  no 
The  oral 
Sdoco*  depcmU  upon  onr  burts  and  ipoor*." 

"  Brilona,  strike  buoM  I  levtofte  vmr  oouitiT's  wtong* : 
FifU  and  rseord  jourielvee  ia  Druids'  Kings."] 


262 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4-k  S.  IX.  K 


a  3^*71. 


CAPTiTE'fl  CoFPiN  IN  PaoaPECi. — 

"That  unhappy  ciptiva  who  each  ranmint;  aaw  his 
dreadful  prUoD  contraotiog  into  a  coffin."— Kmil  Polleske, 
Sehilltr'i  Lift  and  IKorlii  traiulated  by  Lwly  Wallan, 
Tol.i.p.  Jll. 

A  etory  of  tbis  kind  has  ofteQ  been  told.  Is 
tbere  anj  foundation  for  it  in  fact,  or  is  it  merelj- 
a  dream  of  mediicval  taletellers  ?        A.  0.  V.  P. 

Sir  Boyle  Roche.— In  tlio  Ec-ho  of  Feb.  13, 
1873j  I  see  a  leading  paragTapli  whicb  commences 


Old  Qahbs. — What  ue  "  hot  cocUm  "  and 

"  Pen-Bud- Ynkhome  Sir  Jban  "  P 

Makboohxhl 

[Hot-cocktes  is  sn  old  gamf,  practised  eapedallr  U 
ChriMmae.  Uae  boy  eils  doirn,  ■nil  aDother,  wbo  1*  bUnd- 
folilcil,  kneela  and  fayi  hia  bead  on  bis  Ldh,  pladntf  it 
the  aamc  lime  hia  open  haod  on  hia  own  back.  Ha  ukd 
criee.  "  Hot-cocklea,  hot '.  "  Another  then  itrikta  hia  ooa 
hand,  nnd  the  sitting  boy  asks  who  strikes.  If  the  oogr 
guessed  KFongly,  be  made  a  forfeit ;  but  if  ri^tlf ,  M 
wsa  released.  The  sport  is  noticed  by  Giy — 
*^  Ab  at  hot-cockles  once  I  laid  me  down, 
I  felt  the  weighty  hand  of  many  a  clawa ; 

I  read  aofl  miachief  in  her  ajra." 
and  Pattma,  ed.   ISiS  Cp>  8M), 
ne.    The  gi —  "  "— 

Knigbtoges  published  subsequeotly  to   tfie  year  I  "     """'  ""  ""*"    ■Bui"!" 

1858,  but  can  fmd  no  metitinn  of  the  nnme  alluded  Edwabq  Oaeditsr.— Can  any  of  the  ruden  d 
to.  Can  any  of  your  readers  furnish  nie  with  "  N.  &  Q."  tell  me  where  I  can  find  any  accoimt 
information  concerning  Sir  Bojie  Hoche,  as  to  his  j  of  the  life  of  the  above  gentleman  ?  He  published 
family  and  services,  and  whea  he  received  the  !  " 

honour  of  knighthood  P  R.  II.  M, 


"Sir  Borl«  Boche  is  i 
exodua  he  has  pa.i3cd  over 
by  which  appropriate  na 
Ststea  .  .  ." 


t  dead.    In  the  great  Iriab 


Quick  roaa  an 
In  Strutt'a  Sport 


Lee,  Kent, 

Caclfeild.— Edward,  first  Earl  of  Kington, 
married  Jane,  daughter  of  Thomas  Caulfei  Id,  Eaq., 
of  Druamon,  co.  Boscommon.  Who  was  Miss 
Caulfeild'a  mother  ?  Burke's  Landed  Gentry  says 
that  Thomas  Caulfeild  died  1747  unmarried.  If 
80,  Lady  Kingston  whs  of  course  illegitimate. 

Y.  S.  M. 

Wm.  CtiFiox  OP  IIooQHTON,  CO.  York,  — 
William  Clifton  of  Houghton  parish, Cnstlerord,ci 


York,  mamed  at  Kirkthorpe,  Nov.  Ifi,  1088,  to  '  *  «8S  Dotween  two  chevrons  (or  ciieTOiwli 
Susannah  (I*yemontP)i  died  Nov.  18,  1720,  sUd  S^"^-  Cteet;  A  demi  lion  rampMt  teuIeeP) 
sixty-one,  and  was  buried  in  All  Sainte' Chui?:h,  I  i^gwi  arrow,  the  pomt  towards  the  dixter,* 


of  essays  and  poems,  called  Jaiiet 
(Bristol,  1798),  and  Was  a  friend  of  EdwaidJennff, 
the  discoverer  of  vaccination.  I  want  espeeiill; 
to  know  where  he  was  born,  and  when  ha  died. 
H.BoiTO. 
Heraldic  Quert. — Or  a  piece  of  ulver  pbto 
in  my  possession,  purchased  many  ^ ears  ago  tf 
one  of  my  wife's  family,  the  fallowing  anna  >n 
engraved,  the  tinctures  being  quite  legiblat— 
Gules,  on  a  chevron  or,  between  tlu-ee  liotu  na- 

fant  (of  the  first  P),  as  many  pheoaa  ugnL 
mpaliog  the  following :  Per  pale  gules  uid  mm} 
4  fees  between  two  chevrons  (or  cbeTioiiela)  it- 


sixty-one,  and  was 

Pontefract,  with  one  Richard  Avre.     He  bad  pi 


1  Castleford,  Roth  well,  "Wakelieid,  Kirk- 


Molto :  "  Spe  et  labore." 
There  may  have  b 


ihoroo,    Fetherstone,   Methley,  iind    iWtofract     !''<''!''°'t^«*Tf"°"",*^wV  4«'^?"«^™ 

^t!    '     ...     ._  _.. 'i....i._    _r;i    _....!.    a    ..    ,-        ueanDffsr  and  if  so.  of  what  familv  or  femiluaP 


s  shown  by  the  seal  attached  to  bis 
will,  were  those  of  Clifton,  of  Clifton,  co.  Notts, 
excepting  that  the  colours  ore  not  distini^uished ; 
and  lie  wns  a  relative  (probably  a  grandson)  of 
SirOervnse  Clifton,  the  &st  baronet  of  that  name. 
Information  as  to  this  gentleman's  birth-place  and 
his  immediate  ancestors  would  be  a  groat  favour. 
J.  H.  Clifton. 

West  Wellow,  Romsey,  Hampshire. 

■'The  Cups  and  Salmon."— I  saw  this  sign 
over  an  tnn  while  at  Bristol,  and  have  neither 
seen  a  record  of  its  use  nor  met  with  it  before. 
What  is  its  origin  ?  Tii.  K.  Tdht. 

Broughton,  Manchester. 

DiSKCTORT  OF  Foreign  Esoinkers. — Can  any 
one  inform  me  whetbc'r  there  is  a  Directory  of  Ger- 
man, Prussian,  and  Belgian  Engineers,  and  the 


hearings  F  and  if  ao,  of  what  family  o: 

New  Jersey,  U.SA. 


M.B.a 


exact  title,  price,  and  date  of  publication,  i 


as  the  publisher's 


e  and  addiesB  P 


Mary  Queen  ov  Scots. — The  Hittorie  of  0* 
Life  and  Death  of  Marjf  StuaH,  Qttetw  ofSmUmi 
(small  folio),  waa  printed  at  London  by  Job 
Havilaud  in  10^,  and  reprinted  in  small  odUI 
by  the  same  printer  in  1630.  These  are  both  ii 
m^  possession,  and  contain  an  addresa  "To  ft* 
Kings  Most  Excellent  Midestie."  The  wrak^ 
identical  in  every  other  respect  but  thi*,thaiti> 
the  folio  "His  Maiestie  "  is- addraased  hj'''Vtl 
Strangvage,"  while  in  the  later  edition  his  "milt 
humble  subiect "  subscribes  himtalf  "  W.  VdaKi' 
Does  this  remarkable  differenca  admit  of  axek* 
nation?  aTU 

Geoboe  Morr,  Esquibs. — In  1639  then  V 
well  .  printed  at  London,  small  4to  — 

«  Piindptea  for  Tang  Prince^  ooIlMltd  odt  Cf  Ji 
nC8.       Author^  by  Ueorge  Mon^  KiqaJn."-  ~ 


lABCH  80, -72.]  NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


263 


osell,    and  receive   instruction,  that  thou 
36  in  the  latter  end.'* 

neither  tlie  name  of  the  printer  nor 
yen,  which  may  lead  a  person  to  infer 

Srivately  printed, 
lent  advice  given  by  the  author  of 
e,  which  consists  only  of  sixty-four 
ct  and  four  of  title,  preface,  and  sub- 
1  not  find  much  favour  in  the  eyes 
ourtier  or  puritan  —  a  circumstance 
account  for  the  author  passing  it 
3  press  at  his  own  charge,  for  dr- 
)ng8t  his  friends.  Is  anytning  known 
:e  More  ?  Was  he  a  descendant  of  Sir 
re,  or  connected  with  the  family  of 
it  person  ?  J.  M. 

—  Many  travellers  have  gone  forth 
)ical  forests  in  search  of  these  curious 
il  plants — some  for  their  own  plea- 
sent  by  the  great  collectors  at  home, 
s  to  know  all  that  has  been  written 
ect,  and  shall  be  much  obliged  for 
any  published  experiences  of  orchid- 

F.  M.S. 

—In  Crowley's  Confutatioti  of  Myles 
inted  by  Da/  &  Seres,  1548,  the  fol- 
iar phrase  occurs :  ''  You  knowe  not 
le  your  breade  is  buttered."  Is  this 
th  in  any  earlier  writer  ?  The  book 
but  the  quotation  is  to  be  found  on 
f  sheet  A  3.  G.  W.  N. 

je. 

IHILT. — G.  S.  S.  has  found  an  ^swer 

queries  in  3'*^  S.  ix.  393 — that  relat- 

JiNeEB's  quotation.    The  letter  from 

mham  alluded  to  in  the  page  here 

to  the  death  of  John  Fuckle  of 
lear  Kye),  co.  Sussex,  who  is  sup- 
ve  been  the  eldest  son  of  Martin 
hant,  of  Norwich,  living  1710,  and  is 
ave  been  the  ancestor  of  the  Rev. 
e,  M.A.,  vicar  of  St  Mary's,  Dover. 
Id  much  like  to  be  informed  when 
de  died ;  where  John  Puckle  of 
3S  buried ;  on  what  estate  in  Ickles- 
led;  and  who  Mary  Reynolds,  his 

John,  his  son,  succeeded  him  at 
id  died  there  circa  1746. 

it  a  recent  trial  at  the  Worcester- 
'  sessions,  a  witness  from  Hagley 
the  word  *'purgy"  in  the  sense  of 
[>adent.  It  is  not  a  word  current  in 
lor  do  I  find  it  in  Lewis's  Glouary 
Words  in  Herefordshire  and  adjacent 
klliwell,  in  his  Dictionary ,  elates  it 
mizj  expression.  Whence  is  it  de- 
lAftt  province  is  it  in  use  P 
:j  Thos.  £.  WiNimraxoir. 


Satirical  Picttjrb  attributed  to  Hooarth. 
I  have  a  painting  6  feet  by  3,  attributed  to  Ho- 
garth. It  represents  a  garden  with  trees,  &c. 
On  th^  ground  lies  a  huge  eel-basket.  At  its 
entrance  on  the  summit  sits  a  fig^ure  of  Oupd 
playing  the  violin.  Inside  the  basket  are  numer- 
ous figures---a  clergyman,  a  lawyer,  a  princeasy 
&c.  &c.,  while  the  most  prominent  appear  to  be 
representations  of  King  George  II.  ana  his  queen. 

In  the  fore^und  outside  are  couples  in  yaiioua 
deg^es  of  life — begg^ars,  stately  gentlemen  and 
ladies,  two  dandne,  out  all  are  apparenti^  enr 
chanted  with  Cupid's  amorous  music,  and  willing 
to  be  entrapped. 

Could  any  of  your  readers  inform  me  the 
meaning  expressed  in  this  picture,  or  tell  me 
where  a  description  may  be  found,  and  if  it  has 
been  engraved  r  £L  T.  Cbaviobd. 

40,  Sa&vilk  Street,  W. 

^  Scottish  Pork. — WiU  you.  kindly  help  me  to 
the  celebrated  Scottish  version  of ''  Certamen  inter 
Ajacem,  etc.,  de  Armis,"  viz. ''  Consedere  dooes^^ 
etc.,  Ovid,  Metamor.  Scottice:  — 

^  The  wight  and  doughty  captains  a*  npo*  their  donps 
sat  douD, 
A  range!  o'  the  common  ibwk  in  bonradis  a'  stood 


roan. 


It  used  to  beprinted  at  the  end  of  Ross's  JETsfe- 
nore,  or  the  lortunate  Shepherdess;  but  I  belieTe 
Ross  was  not  its  author.  I  think  a  part^  vii* 
Ajax's  speech,  is  in  the  British  MoaeonL  I  ooidd 
not  find  Ulysses' reply  there.  '     A.J* 

[The  pieces  will  be  ibond  in  Poems,  dMIymtkeBroad 
Bwhan  Viaieet;  Ajax^B  Speech  to  the  GreekmM^Ha^g 
Ulysaet'  Answer,  ^.  EdiBb.,  1786,  12mo.  We  doubt 
whether  there  is  a  copy  in  the  British  Moseom.'l 

Wax,  btc. — Can  any  one  inform  me  of  the  ocnn- 
position  of  the  wax  used  by  the  andent  Greeks  and 
Romans  for  sealing  their  letters  with  P  Of  course 
they  had  no  mooem  sealing-wax,  and  ordinarj 
bees'-wax  witl^out  some  hardening  mibstanoe  in 
it  would  be  too  soft  to  stand  caiimge  in  a  hot 
climate. 

2.  Are  any  large  intaglia,  used  as  bzooches  tot 
wearing  on  the  shoulders,  still  in  existence  in  their 
ancient  setting,  and  if  so,  where  can  tliey  beseen  P 

3.  What  is  the  title  of  the  last  woric  (nnoe 
Edng's)  upon  ancient  engraved  gemsP 

Hyde  Park  Gate,  Loodoa.  X  R.  Hllff. 

Dr.  Josiah  Woodwabd. — ^He  was  an  eminent 
divine,  wrote  many  books»  and,  after  *  pro^erons 
career,  died  on  August  6,  I712|  at  Mudstone  in 
Kent,  of  which  place  he  was  ^en  the  rector ;  and 
was  buried  there  in  the  parish  church  of  AU  Seintei 
On  a  flat  stone  in  the  chanosl  is  an  inscription  to 
his  memoir.  (See  Le  Neye's  Mm.  A»g,p  edit 
1719,  p.  247.)  When  recently  at  Mjudstoike  I 
went  to  this  church,  hopng  to  discover  tome 
forther  recced  of  the  Bootor  by  which  .io  tace 
his  immediate  anceetoa*   lAmnl  aooatof  Hne 


264 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4US.IZ.  ICarcrSOiTS. 


on  the  flat  atone,  immedifttely  (ibove  the  inscrip- 
tion, but  so  -worn  with  the  traffic  of  one  bundrud 
and  rixtj  jear'i  as  to  be  ulrnnst  indistinguishable. 
All  thtitlcould  make  of  it  ■wit" — Arma;  parted 
per  pale  baron  and  femme,  two  coats;  first,  Barry 
t>f  .  .  .  .  pieceti,  gutea  and  .  .  .  . ;  second,  Gulea, 
ttiri^  fleurs-de-lia  .  .  .  .,  on  a  cbiuf  azure  a  lion, 
Tvliinh  was  either   passant  or  pasfant  pardunt. 


France,  daughter  of  Louis  XII.  and  of  AnM  of 
Britanny.  TheJioiieesof  lirunewick  aBdHanoftr 
rosn  frnm  tbe  hniiso  of  Este. 

Here  ia  a  copy  of  wi  autngiapb  letter  of  QoMi 
MHry-Eleonnrn.  wire  of  Jauies  II.,  vUch  an 
provii  interesting,  coinciding  as  it  doe«  at  tUi 
moment  witli  tbe  peneml  tliankdgiviiig^  throngk- 
oitt  Ihu  IMti^li  rciklm,  raid  jout  gracious  Qdmb'i 


Cri'^t  (which  rested  on  a  hcluii-t}  :  the  lit-ad  and  ndmir^ibte  and  nioM^  aHecliu^  k'tter  to  her  pwpll- 
neck  of  an  animal,  which  holds  sonietbing;  in  it''  I  (That's  a  valuable  Autograph.)  Queen  Mk^i 
inniilh.  I  ruD4  thua: — 

I  hare  since  scarchi^d   vntions  authoritiea  and  1  "kS'GerniBin  re  ISdt  I'aBlTIN. 

hiatories  of  Kent  and  .Maidstone  for  some  menti™  1       "^'"r .'''"'  ^e  ?■"■ '"  «  f-""  nwpnnw,  ma  cfaere  Sw 
of  theso  arin=s  but  without  m^.^.     Will  anv  of  ,  "Xi  ""i.lll^'-'^r'ffu  ""'"^■'™'™'*  ^^Z'J^^SJl 
'nir  till  fiiml  dc  uiMtre  rmar,  et  Mir  tone  OM^riMi 
-s  qai-  Uom  area  fait  pciiiUnt  1»  B    '    "  ~ 


ir  readers,  fjonealiigiala  iu  Kpnt  or  (ilnueester-  I  (,jp„  „, 
shire  (fur  1  believe  tbu  Doftir  came  from  Durdley 


.  Memo-  I  n 


ini>7riciirilclps  •  exauiAi  MM 


e  I'almer'a  edition  of  C.ilarav 
/■ml,  2nd  edit.  1802,  ii.  ■2-M-2:m,  iiindly  aid  .„..  ,  ,  ,.     .    ,  ..  .  _    .  .    .  -____. 

I  also  wish  to  know  tbo  maiden  nalue  of  tha  f "."t '  l^^f^l  -"^  fS™  «"i^  u™T."  ^iSk 
Doctors  wife  Martha;  whether  thure  is  my  ou.w.lati..n  .lo<...ir  m^,  Hlifairr  .•  pr^oii^Oi^i^ 
painted  portrait  of  liitii  in  esiatencc,  and  There ;  I  ^aet  bciiii>-niip  iTf  pivti!  et  il<  ikuolimi,  et  U  nu  mbMi 
who  hisliviaf;  descendants  mav  be,  and  any  other  '  qu'il  on  ilann  detrkbnnea  ili'pniitiims  antra  nibtfM- 
imrticuiaw  n;la«nff  in  any  wav  to  him  or  hia  I  ti..u»  .le  srnce^  iov-„Ties  le«  ncntre!.  .iiec  let  mMiiMi  ■» 
faniilv.  Informali..n  on  th^so'pmnta  to  the  under-  \  cl«-r.  s.r.,r  n  pma,  '1>™<I""I  -»",«™e  o»  fl'^-JJ 
inenl.on.Mj  will  Br<-ntlv  obhpe,  it  bcin-  required  I  .i,.„^..t  i<,„r«„\^,.si,«ntc  noar  rcmployer  iw, 

to  complete  a  hioymphical  uotii"!?  of  the  Doctor,  j  hj^p,,!  ^  mni.riu'lline  fus«  U  ' 

wbicli  13  i^^^ndt'd  for  futiiro  pnhliiMlioii. 


.1,  iHoiicstcr  Cre^fi-ent,  Ilycl.!  P.i 

[Sniiii!  afpount  uf  Ur.  .Itiiuuli  \VoalKnr<l  will  Iw  funnil 

ill   WiHiim   Xewdin'ii   UuKH-g  «f  SI.u.M,m>:,  .-I.  1741, 

5.  Ill);  an'l  i>f  hi*  Iicn'tactiiiiH  t»  lli>'  |).irish  at  Sli^iiev, 
I  I^iiwliinrni'  MS.  Vll, p,  3I> ;— bin  l^-rtrn  t  ■  Liilv  nail 
Il.in.  .IkIiii  Archie,  A.ii.  IRK.%  E-^rU-u  MS.  \M\;  an'l  Ki 


-nil  ill 


c  Itritisli  Musi'i 


..] 


Brplirfi. 
ti:dor  house  at  wimklicdon'. 
(4»  S.  i.T.  181.) 
As  this  house  seoms  to  h^ve  b"cii  "  a  good  dpal 
altep'd  in  nnuwe  of  yeavo,"  it  strikca  ine,  from  tbe 
deMtription  of  the  coats  of  arniH,  that  they  belong 
to  thi-  Itnlinn  hoii"c  of  Este,  and  may  have  bpen 
painted  there  durinfr  James  II.VruifTii  in  honour 
of  hi.^  niMPn  Mary-Klennora,    In  Ilutoria  Iimg- 
niiini  jilunfrliim  *™  (hieiia  Jlerulilict,  I'h.  Jac. 
Spewm,  D.  H«0,  Ifindr- 
^Ai-niini.  B.  K*lpnse^  I>iKM  FiTTBriic  H  llullna^. 
Agtila  Impaiidit.  Lilla  I'mnriai,  C!arporuin  I'rincipalu* 
Scutulum  eirrnlHim  rnm  Annila  iir;:«nipa,  corona,  ru*tm 
el  cmriliun  dureLi.    AqHUa  i|ifi(im  Kileawm  h.  Ativtiiiam 
domain  dcnlf^at,    Aqullam  linperialem  Kr<'ttie  diiuuni 
esse,  rix  ilubium   eme.    IJlia  vero   k  V.atto  VII.  R. 
Franciie,  1430.  Xleolaa  Atention  Ferrari.'p  Murehioni  c 
emu  eue.     Uuih  MdIIo!i   Imrbito^  ()bver»i*  Hum 
matlali,  dentibus  et   uculii  argi-nteia  pxliiliet    Ban 
Sfmliolam.  Terneiu  argentea.1  «t  rubeaa  fiuciu  cum  Loone 
superlnc  umbente.'' 

As  ia  well  known,  Alfonso  IL,  Dultn  of  Ferrara, 
was  the  son  of  Hercules  II.  and  of  Ben^  de 


fuwe  bi  Rraee  de' 

r  et  Ji  I'alin<>r.  en  aarM  ^pnsU 
le  fiiira  et  Liien  hoMeiupiMiad 
.unir  ims  riiviir  cniueacC  Pnur  Uuui,  ma  Simt,ll 
vie  ijieii  non  piu  da  ce  que  Uond  u'aues  iIbi  iRiti 
?ir  maisiln  tout  Itf  tiien  rt  ila  grjnd  bienqnlluaw 
In  KTaec  ilV  Fiire  un  plw>  !«■[  qu'it  j  ■  Id  1^ 

I!  I'.ius  Iv  Avuif  roniAiOe  p.-ur  U  rmmaitUt  Mtl* 
tl  an  donrr  iilui  Mulluut  I'tiiitieuret  louleU^^ 
mni  k  iK!ii«  uiierral  ioye  dc  ce  qat  diea  Ural  ■  At 
<iie  iIb  Hi  lilen  aehnKr'un*  ai  gnai  ceaun  ■t*^ 

ici^unle  eii  particnijer,  muH  imur  ramanr  «  HmM* 
istre  ehcro  mainiii  dc  i:]i.'-.iiluC  miis  BDiUnt  PM 
iiir  .!t  In  i^loin-  tie  clii'ii.i^  [iniir  h-  bien  de  oetU  nM 

jn  qne  Uow  all<^  quitlPr,  ie  ne  dnute  pai  qneCi'* 

b«n  wcur  ne  wiuflni  bcjuenun  en  Uiiiw  MparaatltM 
iHiiiet  d.iwH  M  Fur  lout  de  »•  de  Uaiattnin,  vyf_ 
rk'inercii'  Taulre  i-'iir  p.ur  llou*  de  loutea  In  *■*■ 


tlii\-llB  Vol 
V  de  ^ii 


ie  rlc  bien  it 
•  qu'dli 


tonr  le  i>i>y  Finn  mar!,  ponr 
nir  en  dcauuiiier  li  eonlinuiHf  J*^ 
I'lnMHir  de  <lien,  du  rnta  le  sni>  tres-ate  qmls  U* 
oniinie  il'uiler  unir  nos  inonasteres  da  Parli,  o«  i  ^ 
nei.-iM4alre  que  Uuua  noyei  ods  merea,  ct  qa'dhi  DM 
ronMillent  uir  ptueiearii  chowa  dans  leeqaetlw  O"* 
jKiuurA  li'iir  doner  lien  lumiens  et  lear  eatre  nMspWB" 

do  CB  que  ic  piiin  Mtprimer.    ie  Uoai  .    -    .  — 

iiianiiSRiit  que  Uous  m'aues  enuoy^ 

Uua  hf  tort  iMnea  ec  fort  ntiles  et  W  : 

fiiii  niiec  plaiidr,  ic  m'an  tnt  on  ma  oh 

qn'ii  lit  fffiita  do  n?e  S*  f  ondatear  le  Uou  _.. 

ChaillDt  oji  Ic  pourral  Uou  eiitrelemir  etUou 

Bouuent  da  I'estiiue  et  imiti^  baa  I'ay  panr  lloiu. 

-Hi. 

»  Maria  Contaaec  Gobeit  Ettant  a  S>  A 


4^  s.  IX.  Uarcu  30, 72.]  NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


265 


"SPHiERA  CUJUS  CENTRUM,"  KTC. 
(4^  S.  Tiii.  329.) 

W.  A.  G.  at  the  above  reference  asked  where 
this  pasi-age  was  to  be  found,  as  attributed  on 
authority  to  Hermes  Trisnie<ristus.  I  have  written 
below  what  T  can  make  out  about  it. 

The  earliest  writer  in  whom  I  have  discovered 

it  is  ^lichael  Neander  Soraviensis,  who  in   his 

Op?is  Axtreit^n  et  i^icholastiaan,  p.  328,  n.  (Lips. 

lo77),  has — 

"  Simile  autein  fere  isti  c^t  quod  alictibi  templi  parie- 
tibus  asscriptum  viiliiiius  :  Dcus  est  sphajra  iinmobilis, 
ciijus  centrum  e&t  uiii'jue,  circuniforentia  vero  nusquam." 

In  a  folio  edition  of  Mercurius  Trismegistus, 
with  a  full  commentary,  ed.  Rosseli,  Cracov., 
158O-90,  i.  ."545  (lib.  i.  comm.  xvii.  quaest.  1.  cap.  C), 
it  is — 

*•  Hac  (le  causa  Mercurius  in  Pj'mandro  vocat^Deum 
spbjsram  iiiteUectua}cni,cujus  contrum  ubique  est,  circum- 
ferentia  vera  niuiquam." 

In  a  second  edition  some  years  later  this  is  re- 
peated. 

Cornelius  a  Lepide,who  published  his  Comment. 

in  PtntaU^tch.  in  1010,  in  the  "  Prooem.  et  Encom. 

S.S.,''  prefixed  to  this  (sect  1.  IS,  i.  p.  6.  Paris, 

18(>6)has— 

*•  Empedocles  vero  ropfatua  quid  ossct  Deus  rcspondit : 
Deus  edt  spiuera  inoomprehcnsihilis  cujus  centrum  est 
ubique,  circumterentia  nusquam." 

There  is  no  allusion  to  this  to  be  found  in  the 
modem  editions  of  the  Fragments  of  Empedodcs 
And  the  accompanying  notes. 

Bnlth.  Corderius,  circ.  Kv^O,  in  his  Comment,  in 

Ubr.  Job.  (c.  xi.  vv.  8,  0,  p.  207.  Par.  1800),  has— 

•*  Mercurius  Trismejn<«tus  ait  Dcuni  circuluni  esse,  cujus 
centrum  ubique  sit,  et  circumferentia  nusquam." 

Pascal,  in  his  Thoughts^  makes  use  of  the  pas- 
sage without  assigning  any  author — 

*  [La  2?ature]  est  unc  sphere  infinio,  dont  le  centre  est 
ptrtout,  la  circonference  nulle  pnrt." — pKusLts^  art.  xvii. 
§  1,  ed.  1847,  or  art.  i.  §  1,  ed.  18t;0. 

Sir  Thomas  Browne  introdiicps  the  passajro  in' 

a  note  to  the  first  authorised  edition  of  his  lleligio 

Medici  published  in  1043 — 

"Sphiera,  cnjus  centrum  ubique,  circumferentia  nul- 
Kbi,**  [and  calls  it  J  *'  that  allt^gorical  description  of 
Htrmes." — Part  i.  sect.  10. 

In  a  recent  collection,  CJioir  de  Mots  celhhres  de 

TBidoire,  par  F.  Ducros,  p.  100  (Par.  1809),  it  is 

attributed  to  Pythagoras — 

•**I>ien  est  unesph^  infmie  dont  le  centre  est  partout 
•t  1»  drconfdrence  nulle  part.'  Cette  cdlebre  pens^  a 
4t4  cmpmnti^  ao  philo«ophe  et  mathdmaticien  grecPytha- 
gon  par  BUum  Paacal." 

There  is  a  fi'agment  of  Pythagoras,  preserved 
(?)  pseudo-Justin  Martyr  {Ad  Grtec,  Cohort,^ 
1%  p.  20,  ed.  Pari%  1742),  and  Clemens  Alex- 
Mtt9B  (Ctkpri.  ad  GenteSy  torn.  i.  p.  62,  ed. 
r.  OsaOf  1725)^  from  which  the  sentiment 
u    *  • 


u 


may  be  deduced,  but  in  which  it  is  not  expressed, 
as  it  is  by  those  who  cite  the  passage. 

From  the  above  it  will  appear  that  the  earliest 
use  of  the  expression  which  has  been  noticed  is  in 
1577,  that  there  is  not  an  uniform  assigning  of  it 
to  Ilermes  Trismegistus,  and  that  it  has  not 
hitherta  been  found  quoted  in  Greek.  It  will 
also  be  observed  that  tht^re  is  a  variation  of  spheera 
and  circtdvSy  and  that  the  adjfcctive  joined  to  these 
words  is  not  the  same  in  all.  The  passage  does 
not  exist  in  the  Pymander,  nor  is  it  known  to  be 
in  any  other  of  the  works  of  Hermes. 

£d.  Marshall. 


"THE  BALLAD  OF  FLODDEN  FIELD." 

(4^  S.  viii.  25,  20e3.) 

The  following  particulars  concerning  this  old 
ballad  are  perhaps  worth  narrating,  especially  as 
some  of  your  correspondents  seem  in  the  daric  as 
to  its  history.  It  was  probably  written  towards 
the  end  of  the  sixteenth  century,  although  no  MS. 
of  that  date  has  come  down  to  our  times.  We 
cannot  guess  as  to  its  author,  but  he  was  pro- 
bably (from  the  whole  tenour  of  the  poem) 
attached  to  the  house  of  Stanley.  That  he  had 
written  other  things  of  the  same  kind  is  evident 
from  the  opening  stanza : — 

"  Now  will  I  cease  for  to  recite 

King  Henry's  affairs  in  France  so  wide. 
And  of  domptftic  wars  I'll  write. 
That  in  his  absence  did  betido.'* 

The  earliest  copy  known  to  exist  is  that  in  the 
HarL  MS.  No.  3520,  which,  from  internal  evi- 
dence, dates  in  10;30.  In  the  vear  1064  an  edition 
was  printed  (now  of  great  rarity)  with  the  follow- 
ing title  : — 

"  Floddan  Field,  in  Nine  Fits,  bein;x  an  exact  History 
of  that  famous  memorable  Rattle,  fouj^ht  between  Eng- 
lish and  Scots  on  Fioddan  Hill,  in  the  time  of  Henry  the 
Eijrhth,  anno  li513 ;  worthy  the  perusal  of  the  English 
Nobility.  London  :  Printed  by  P.  L.  for  11.  B.  W.  P. 
and  S.  H.,  and  are  to  be  sold  in  Ivy-lane»  and  Gray's- 
inn-gate,  16C4.  Licensed  November  llth,  1(563.  Koger 
L'lCstrange."  12njo. 

Two  editions  were  printed  in  1774 ;  the  one  by 
"Joseph  Benson  Philomath,"  professed  to  be  "col- 
lected from  ancient  MSS.'*;  the  other  by  "the 
Rev.  Robert  Lambe,  Vicar  of  Norham-upon- 
Tweed."  Both  these  editions  are  in  12ma  Tnexe 
is  another  edition  "  printed,  though  very  incor- 
rectly, by  old  Gent  of  1  ork**  (Ritson's -4wc.  Songs, 
1790,  p.  110).  Benson's  is  by  far  the  best  edition. 
The  text  of  Lambe's  copy  is  said  to  be  "  Published 
from  a  curious  MS.  in  the  possession  of  John 
Askew,  of  Palins-bum  in  Northumberland,  Esq." 
The  editor  gives  no  account  of  the  date  of  this 
MS.,  which  we  might  naturally  suppose  to  be  of 
some  antiquity,  from  his  expression  "a  curious 
MS.**  The  real  value  of  the  MS.,  however,  we 
glean  from  another  aouice.  In  1808  Henry  Weber 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


H"-  S.  IX.  Habcm  80,  '7*. 


edited  a  new  edition  of  tbe  bntlad,  using  as  his 
lest  the  printed  copy  of  1004,  from  which  we 
leaiti  that  the  Askew  lia  wiia  written  after  1707, 
W  Eacharii's  HiBtory,  which  is  quoted  in  the 
note8,wea  published  ia  that  year;  "  and  the  modern 
hand- writing  deiuonstrateu  that  it  waa  copied 
thirty  or  forty  years  after  that"  !  The  iranscriber 
was  "Mr,  Eichard  Guy,  late  school ninateria  Ingle- 
ton,  YorliBhire."  Poor  Lambe,  who  appears  to 
have  been  the  most  ignorant  of  editors,  was  the 
first  to  make  the  blunder  of  ascribing  the  author- 
gkiji  of  the  ballad  to  the  schoolmaster.  In  Lambe's 
copy  a  Dumber  of  modem  stanzas  are  interpolated, 
and  the  text  is  most  unmercifully  handled  by 
tranBcriber  or  editor.  The  text  ol  the  Hurkian 
MS.  is  worth  printing'— perh spa  by  the  Ballad 
Society?  Ebwarb  !•'.  Rimdault, 


Defende  (4*  B.  is.  178.)-Mr.  Tkw  will  find 
defend,  in  the  sense  be  notes,  thus  remarked  upon 
in  Thomas  Blount's  Law  Jyictionarx/  (3rd  edition, 
1717):  — 

'■  DePRNi)  (Fr.  deftndtrt),  signifies,  in  our  ancient 
laws  and  statutes,  to  prohibit  or  Tuibitl:  as  '  usarios 
diftnilil  quniuc  Hex  Edwardua  ne  remaDereuC  in  ngau,' 
LL.  Edv.  Cunf.,  I'Hp.  37,  and  5  llich.  II-,  Ciip.  7.  Of 
which  word  llius  Chaucer  i  — 

any  miiiuer  age, 
riflfje.' 

In  7  Ed.  I.  we  have  a  eUtute  enlituleJ  '  Stalutum  de 
dtftuMwac  porlandi  arnia,'  etc .  and  it  is  lirftndtd  bv  law 
ta  distrain  on  tba  bighvay  {.Vukt  on  Liul.,  foL  lel)." 

Very  naany  instances  of  defend,  used  in  the 
Ben«e  of  forbid,  might  be  quoted  from  old  writers 
b;  one  who  liad  time  to  hunt  them  up.  The 
folloning  occurs  to  me  at  this  moment;  — 

"  In  this  tyme  [UIS]  was  it  dcfendid  that  e^lcv 
balt^nici  schulil  nut  [bel  nwid;  for  tlire  of  bum  wete 
fnl  scamly  worth  a  peny.  — John  Cipgrave'a  Chronich, 
p.  313. 

Edward  Peacocx. 

Bottearord  Manor,  Brigg. 

"Catus  amat  PISCES"  (4"'  S.  ii.  109.)— This 
expKSsiun  I  believe  to  be  a  proverb  of  mediasval 
times.  The  word  cntm  docs  not  occur  till  the 
fourth  century,  so  far  as  I  am  aware,  when  it  is 
used  by  Palladius  {lie  Re  Rustied,  iv.  9)  in  the 
following  sentence  :  ■'  Contra  talpas  prodest  catos 
frequenter  hubere  in  mediis  carduetis,"  and  a 
scholiaat  on  Callimachus  (Ilynm  in  Caiathum  Cer. 
1,  110),  says:  t^v  alXaujuv,  riv  Ituariica:^  Arjnl^t- 
vav  xiTTiir.  The  earliest  notice  of  the  proverb  that 
I  have  found,  tboii);h  with  a  slight  cliange — 

"Cattus  unat  pisccm,  sed  non  vult  UD^^eni  flumcu," 
is  in  a  collection  of  proverbs  by  Gartner— 

"  Proverbialia  Dicterla,  cthicam  et  maralBm  doctrinam 
camplecCentia.  Vanibni  veUribna  rhjrtmlcl*  ab  antlqui- 
tate  mutnftin  ""»  ■"  ••*  IniamrttBdwifl  con- 

■cripta  at 


I  suppose  that  this  proverb  it  found  among  all 
oatione,  though  I  know  it  only  in  Scotch  i^ 
"  The  cat  would  ttio  fish  sat. 
But  she  baa  no  will  tc  wet  her  feet," 

and  in  German — 

"  Die  Kalie  faUtt'  <Ier  Fiache  geza ;  aber  ale  will  dil' 
Flidae  nic  naas  oiachen." 

Can  any  of  your  correspondents  leomad  in  e^ 
mology  trace  the  word  cat  to  an  Eiuteni  originf 
The  cat  seems  to  be  widely  scattered  over  tlie 
world.  1  iiave  shown  that  the  word  was  known 
in  the  fourth  century.  Where  mn  PallHliiti 
have  found  it  ?  C.  iC  Raiusa 

The  proverb  may  be  traced  one  step  fuitbsr 
back.  Archbishop  frencb  cites  it  (iVvt«r^  Ap- 
pend, p,  154,  ed.  1857) — 

"  Catui  amat  piscea,  aed  non  vult  Ungen  ptantan.' 

It  is  with  this  proverb,  which  is  of  •Imcat  (D 
languages,  that  Lady  Macbeth  taunta  bet  kM- 
band,  as  one — 

"  Letting  I  dare  not,"  &e.—Jfaeie(A,  Act  I.  Sc-T.    , 

At  pp.  29,  140  he  has  some  remarks  on  Aj9^     i 
ing  Lnlio  proverbs,  with  a  bit  of  some  of  tw-      j 
At  p.  154  there  is  a  bit  of  some  uurhymed  of  tkt      j 
same  description,    lie  rej^ts  that  there  ii  ■>■ 
where  a  complete  collection  of  such  medionl 
proverbs.  Es.  M'wwrJ- 

GOVEENOE:    ViCBROr   (4*    a.    ix.    91)- 
Kovetnor  of  a  British  colony  or  other  wM 
la  one  who  has  tbe  supreme  direction  of  its  UH^ 
or  who  rules  with  supreme  authoritj  tempowilj 


}  administer  oi  enfima  ni 


;  A  viceroy  is  tbegovemorof  akingdooioinia' 
try,  who  rules  in  the  name  of  theaovaidgnof  Ai 
:  state  to  which  that  kingdom  or  country  balcMi 
I  with  regal  authority,  as  the  substitute  of  W 
,  sovereiffn.  The  term  is  derived  from  tlia  FnaA 
word  vicc-iai,  vice-king. 

I'ermit  ine  to  set  your  correspondent  ligUb 
his  "  belief "  as  regards  tbe  Govemor-GaDeial  rf 
Indiiu  I'rior  to  November  1,  1868,  the  ([OTsa- 
uient  of  the  British  territories  in  India  Ml 
administered  in  trust  for  llie  crown  by  ^ 
Honourable  East  India  Company  under  sucoeadn 
charters,  &c.,  granted  to  them  by  the  trown.  Ob 
the  transfer  of  the  government  of  those  terrikn* 
to  the  crown  "  the  Queen  in  council,"  in  k* 
"  proclamation  lo  tbe  princes,  chiefs,  and  pec~  ' 
of  India,"  stated  as  follows ; — 

"  And  wp,  reposing  eapacial  truit  suJ  eoDDdeneeiB 
Invally,  ability,  aud  judgment  of  our  right  uudy  — 
well-beloved  cousin  and  coundlkir,  Charlea  John  ViMBfSt- 
Canning,  do  hereby  conatituta  aod  appoiDl 
Viscount  Canning,  to  ba  Our  jSrs*  Vicirn/  : 


thei«of  in  o«i  name,  and  geunV 

and  on  oar  behalf,  EubJeM  W  !"■ 

orders  and  ngnlatiim*  ■*  ha  Aall  from  tims  to  C —  ^"^ 


4*  &  IX  HlBCU  SO,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


267 


cuve  from  va  through  one  of  our  prindpil  ucrctaries  of 
BUte." 

In  the 

"ProcUmalion  bj  tile  Ri^ht  Honoarnble  the  GoTemor-- 
General  of  Indi»  "  [it  ia  stated  that]  "  Her  SlBJesty  thi- 
QuMti  h«vins  declared  that  it  is  her  gracious  pleasuro 
to  take  upon  herself  the  government  of  the  British  terri- 
tories  ID  India,  the  Viceroy  and  Covemor-General  hereby 
notifies  (hat  from  this  day  all  acts  of  the  government  O! 
India  will  be  done  in  the  name  of  the  Queen  alone."— Sec 
Calcaila  Recitar  ExtraordinaTy.  Xov.  1,  ISoS. 

Cqaelbs  Mason. 

3,  Gloucester  CieacenI,  Hyde  Park. 

Tbe  Devil's  NuiriNa  Day  C*"  S.  is.  67, 1C6, 
225.)— I  quite  accidentally  came  across  the  fol- 
lowing : — 

"  Tomorrow  is  Holv-rood  dav, 
When  all  a  nullinK  lake  tlipir  war,- 

Grim  Iht  Collitr,  Act  II.  Se.  1.  (1662.) 
and  on  referring  to  Brand's  Pop.  Antiq.  (i.  363), 
Bobn'a  edit,  find  a  aimilar  paaaage  from  the  same 
plaj,  with  oDe  or  two  other  e.ttracta  on  the  sub- 

Ject,  which  seem  to  show  that,  in  spite  of  the 
evil,  nutting  waa  general  on  Sept  14.  See  also 
"N.  &  Q."  (1"S.  X.  263),  from  which  it  appears 
that  the  "  fettival  of  nuttiog-daj "  is  kept  at 
Peniyn,  Cornwall,  "on  some  particular  day  in 
September  or  October."  Jakes  Bbittbn. 

British  Museum. 

Efv.  Thos.  Cromwell,  Ph.D.,  F.S.A.  (-J'"  S. 
ix.  108.) — I  have  the  second  edition  of  the  book 
referred  to: — Olirer  Croinwell  and  Hit  Timet, 
br  Thomas  Cromwell.  Second  Edition.  London, 
1822.  1  Tol.  8vo.  Mr.  Carlylo  speaks  of  it  as 
"  of  n  vaporoua,  gestic illative,  dull-acriiil,  still 
more  insignificant  character ;  and  contains  nothing 
that  is  not  common  elsewhere." — Oliver  Crom- 
vxWi  Letters  and  Speeches,  vol.  ii.  p.  250  nole,  edit. 
1871. 

Dr.  Cromwell  was  a  descendant  of  the  Crom- 
well/aniiVy,  but  not  of  the  Protector  himself,  nor 
does  he  anywhere  say  so.  The  last  liueat  male 
descendant  of  the  Lord  Protector  was  Oliver 
Cromwell,  Esq.  who  died  at  Cheshunt  in  May 
1821.  He  (the  latter)  was  the  author  otMemoiri 
of  tie  Protector  Oliver  Cromwell,  and  of  hie 
Family,  2  vols.  8vo.  The  third  edition  is  dated 
London,  1852.  Hemkt  W.  Henfbet. 

15,  Elton  Places  Brighton. 

Buck  Eais  ("4'"  S.  ix.  137, 18o.)-Bkck  rain 
ahoweis  were  frequently  noted  in  Scotland  some 
jeuB  ago.  In  the  interval  between  January,  \ 
1862,  and  January,  1806,  seven  sbowera  of  black 
Min  fell  in  Slains  and  district.  Two  of  the  showers 
ware  accompanied  with  pumice-stones,  some  of 
which  weighed  upward^  of  a  pound  avoirdnpoia.  j 
Foot  of  theseshowers  were  contemporaneous  with  | 
^  «atbaiBtB  of  Vesuvius,  the  otbera  with  outbutsts 
«f£taiA.  Theee  showers  were  well  authenticated, 
«oI  md.    On  Ua,y  3,  1686,  at  eleven  a.h.  and  [ 


at  four  p.if.,  showers  of  black  rain  fell  in  BtT' 
mingham  and  the  neighbourhood.  This  nun 
blackened  water  in  ton^  and  clothes  on  greens 
for  many  miles  distant  Irom    Birmingham,  in 

'  places  unaffected  by  soot  and  smoke,  and  to  loind- 
ward  of  the  toivn.     The  black  rainfall  noted  on  this 

I  date  was  contemporaneous  with  a  fresh  outbreak 
of  Vesuvius,  the  London  press  announdng  &om 
their  foreign  correspondents  some  hours  after- 
wards that  the  mouatain  was  sending  forth  dark 
volumes  of  smoke.     I  have  drawn   on  some  ex- 

'  tracts  from   the    Aberdeen   Journal  for   this    in- 

!  formation.  Thos.  Ratcliffe. 

LiKCOLHSHIBK   FoLK    LoRE  (4"    S.    il.  174.) 

I  In   Mr.  Inward's    little  book    Weather  Lore   he 
I  makes   the   following   remarks    corroborative   of 
I  PKLAOirs's  clerk's  ideas :—  - 
'      "  When  pigs  carr}'  strsir  to  their  sties,  bad  weather 
may  be  eipecled." 
"  When  piga  are  moie  than  usually  restless  or  gmnCiDg 

t,  or  retire  to  theKer,  it  pre- 
r."— P.  74. 

T.  Feltou  Falesbk. 

Gawvisob  (4"'  S.  ii.  900.)— Mr.  Atkinson's 
Glottary  nfthe  Cleveland  Dialect  contains — 

"  Gaurei/,  Gmviion,  Mb.  A  simpleton  ;  one  that  is  half 
sillj",  or  vith  less  than  hla  proper  portiou  of  wits.    See 

Gaubi/  is  defined  to  be  "  a  heavy  vacant  lout,  an 
oaf,  a  simpleton."  A  learned  note  on  the  deriva- 
tion o!  gmibij  follows,  which  is  too  long  to  quote 
here,   but  is  well  worth  reading.     The  word  is 

Eironounced  gaiy  in  the  North  Liocolnahire  dia- 
ect.  Edwabd  Peacock. 

Bottealbid  Manor,  Bilgg. 

Tbet«  are  various  other  forms  of  this  word,  as 
"  gauiy,  gavy,gaby,  gmrpy,"  &c  The  meaning  is 
"  a  gaper."  There  is  a  northern  provincial  verb, 
"gauve  -  to  stare,  to  gape  " ;  and  Chaucer  bos  the 
verb  gauren  ("Miller's  Tale,"  1.  Cii),  and  else- 
where). Compare  German  gaffen,  Danish  gabe, 
fforse  gapa,  JolIN  Addis. 

BoBtlnglon,  near  LIttlehampton,  Susses. 
"  The  Ladies'  Lisrabt  ":  Eliza  Steklk(4'''S. 
ij.  66, 148.) — As  reference  is  being  so  constantly 
made  to  "N.  &  Q."  on  nearly  all  points,  whether 
"grave  or  gay,  lively  or  severe,"  it  is  most  demrable 
that  all  the  statements  of  its  correspondents  should 
be  as  accurate  as  possible.  Permit  me,  therefore, 
to  correct  some  errors  into  which  I  have  fallen  in 
statements  concerning  the  Steele  and  Trevor  fami- 
lies at  p.  148  of  the  present  volume.  Eliza  or 
Elizabeth  Trevor  was  the  daughter  of  Sir  Richard 
Steele,  and  not  his  wife,  as  stated.  She  was  mar- 
ried to  John,  Lord  Trevor  of  Bromham,  and  by 
him  had  one  only  child,  a  daughter,  named  Diana, 
who  died  young.  Sir  Richard  Steele  was  twice 
married — firstly,  to  a  lady  of  the  Island  of  Bat^ 
badoes,  whose  maiden  name  seenu'neTor  to  ban 


268 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4>k  S.  IX.  Mamh  sot  TS. 


been  ascertained ;  and  serondlv,  to  Miss  Marr 
Scxirlook,  by  whom  he  had  two  eons,  llichard 
and  Eugy  nt\  who  predoceiL'ted  him,  and  two 
dau(!hters,  who  survived  their  father,  Elizabeth 
(^Lady  Trevor)  and  Mary. 

Jonx  PlCKFORD,  M.A. 
IIuDgate  Street,  Pickcriat;. 

IlEriiODrcTiox  OK  Seals  and  Coins  (-V^  S.  ii. 
*20'2.) — I  would  advise  F.  AT.  S.  to  try  electrotyp- 
iug  iu  pretereuce  to  castiu^.  i 

IIexry  W.  IIexfrey.    i 

SOCIKTIKS  FOR  TUV.  KeFOKMATIOX  OF  MaNXERS 

(4*  S.  ix.  '20-2  )— 1.  rrobiibly  the  best  account  to 
be  fonnd  ot*  this  stvietv  and  others  is  to  be  met 

ft 

with  iu  Ur.  Josiah  Woovlwiird's 

•'Aooount  of  tho  Kise  .-iml  Pn^^n.'**  of  tlie  Holi^^ious 
Socieiii^  ill  the  City  of  Uuulon.  v\:v'.,  fur  the  Kciunnatiuu 
of  MauuiTs*' «S.c.    Loiulon,  U•i'^-l7ul. 

Other  aeoounts  are  to  Iv  found  in  Baniet's  7/*'^^ 
ofht'jt  (hrn  Tifuf  (^orijr- tniit.,  ii.  .'U?,  .*U^K  Defoe's  . 
I\h>r  Mtifi'ii  I\'tti  in  rtluti\*n  to  all  the  IVm-iama- 
tioM,  Av.,  finUttihirl  for  n  Jiffar:/iiiiio/t  of  Manners, 
^•i\,  and  iu  t>ihor  Wv»rk>  as  referred  to  iu  Tycr- 
mau's  Li*'t  of  Stimiu,  Ji'i  </<;</  mentioned  hereal'ier. 
In  Wrslev's  /»',.-.*;<.  also  mentioned  hereafter,  is  a 
remark  bv  i:j;»  eaitvr. 

m 

-.  As  t.^  i':i:>o  s.vivtiis  haviiij:  anythir.^  to  do 
with  the  o.i^'iii  -if  MetIjvKii>:n.  1  should  recominend 

H  'i  A,*j  ■/ ,  0  :v  '2\  ■  >-  J  J  > ;  aU  v^  l?  ,K » :i  n  \V  eslo  v  *s  s-.  r- 
mon  prtM.  ■:■  .i  Ivi'oro  tlu*  al^-u  v^-named  so^.*ic:v  iu 
ITij^j  \,ll\r\<,  od.  lJ^l^\  vi.  U\\^ 

KliANC'.S  M.  JA.-iSON. 
HOSKR    AN".^     lll'i   TUVNSJ.VTVRS    <^-l'*     S.      viii. 

ptifftm  :  i\.  'O.^ — rUore  is  ;\  :.  ^t'.»  iu  »Sir  \V:a:vr 
S.»tt*s  chaniiir  ^  K:ir  Miiv:  x*'  /Vr.'';.  bearing  v-.:i 
this  subitv:.  h  is  iu  o\:>::i!ia:ioa  of  th-.*  Wv»ri 
••  DeAsil . ' '  a :id  o».v v.rs  i u  : lie  t  w or. ;  v -s-.^- e:i :  h  o h :i -o - 
ler: — 

h  ■•  1..... 

I .:  r\v  : i '.V. t  >  r^.  ;i  :* '.  '.  :\ <■  >  ■  i  *"  » :  l .'. '  vi ;M  i  ' :  . : v :  v.^  i"*:- r >o ■.: . 
iu)plorx:t^  i»Uvi:r^*  or.  ;:.•.«.  l"U;»  lV,i>  I  :f..i^:  Iv  ivr- 
iv^riui^xl  ^;::»».t_\  >,:.:*:  :>. ._.  'w*:-.  v  /"-.  »i  - .:'.!  ( •  .■;'■?.     If 

•M^^y  **"  ■■■-■     'x     *'*v**\'t.*<."  *«^      •*■.»     •*^ir"  \'     '"*   ■ »  -^    Ilk  ;•  'it^r^^*  *f  ^ 

t»  •  «  *  •  % 

.\**»  A, .»**»'•*«       »•»      ■■»•»*. ."*Y\V         \V      •-•'-■'».     •      •«'i'»       ■• 
^*     k4.>tMl      ^l..     »«'V       .\...l.     ,s...V\<«,     Mkk«..      -^•lV..•>«k^l»• 

W  ?\.«k'.V«     ..a     .»     .,\     .«         1\      C^..        <*«l..>.,    ,<i.^      >  .  .  .>      I   .\.«k.«« 

I  &t\     !.>»«:*     ,.>     •:    «>  >it  '.a     ••■,ti     ^  <     >C  t  .1    .    •  .  •    •  >*..     v>    \.  * 

t*  1*1  'l\*  I'  9  •* 

lows;  - 

vi.  W.  lV)n.i^so:«. 


The  first  Latitv  Version  of  Hoxer'9 
''  Iliad  "  {ii'^  S.  x.  ;iU.)— The  six  years'  limita- 
tion not  having  quite  reached  Mr.  Piebcb  Boast's 
inquiry,  I  may  be  permitted  to  satifify  it  anent  tlie 
Latin  translations  of  Homer. 

Recently  I  picked  up  a  lengthy  and  elaborattf 
work  in  three  quarto  volumes  —  Distertatiamm 
Homerictp,  h<ihit<c  in  FlaretUiito  Lyctto,  ab  Aii|Fe'lo 
Maria  Kiccio  Gkuc.  Lit.  Prof.  Florentiie,  1740— 
containing  sixty-one  lectures,  and  a  quantity  of 
extraneous  matter,  through  the  Xeo-Latinity 
when»of  I  have  neither  health,  eyesight,  nor  pa- 
tience to  labour.  Chancing,  however,  to  light  oo 
its  notice  of  Homer's  Latin  translators,  I*liaiv 
applied  it  to  the  gratitication  of  Mr.  EeAX's 
curio.-<ity  — 

*'  Francis  Petrarca  Homerum  Latine  reddijrh 
mu^  curavit.**  Barcellius  tnmslated  the  Odi/utff 
and  part  of  the  liiad.  Salviui  traoslated  ixrtk. 
Aretino,  Beatinus.  Baccius,  Folganus,  tire  anonj' 
mo  us  tr&Ublations. 

EniiuKD  Lexihall  Swifil 

l>Ei;ivATioxs  OF  Names  of  CocTfTiusa,  n& 
V4"*  S.  ix.  I:;r.  ino.)— W.  a.  B.  Coolidgb  nught 

reft-r  to  — 

1.  »•  W.-rV.-i  ;ia.l  Pl.i'o* :  or  Ktymo1o^o.al  lUartritHii 
of  IIi<t..iry.  Krliii-^vy.  iin.l  GoMrjphy."  RvtheBfl^- 
I  -^1:1  .■  T.iy I .-  r.  M.A.  i' iid  t-di:.    M hc milUa  it  Co.,  Loodff 

*•  l\:o  G.;eli.'  Topu^raphy  of  S^dand,  and  whiitt 
Pro'.vj,"*  Hy  Ja:::v'S  A.  Kobertson.  F.S.A.  ^sooL  ftf*" 
bur^jh.  1S'.>^.' 

-  Tra«v>  of  H:«ory  in  the  N.inned  of  Places,**  &e.   V 
llavt.!!  Kimiiiivis.    LtxKlon.  l^t'iS.  ^^ 

*'  l):o:i.  iiiiiLin.^  do«  toute»  les  Oommunes  de  la  Fi 
Dy  Vteraui:  de  Nii-.t-Fjir.:eau. 

'"  Alldcui^chiS  Nam^nba^'h.** 

'J.  "  \Vu::  i-.'riR^  an  I  Miuin:::^  in  the  Valley  of 
\vy..i>->^-/*     bv  Ja::i-.3  A.  Wvlie.    London  and  Edla-^ 

.  Charlss  Vituv. 

I'amily  of  Oi;;^e  i4*^  3.  Lx.  105.)— Then ii^ 
upprx:l;r:-.d.  no  r«.»as<i:i,  except  the  fact  that  w^ 
arjis  v't'  tj-e  :wv»  lamilies  are  somewhat  sinOtfSr 
i.K  K\K\>-..U-7iz^  :hat  there  is  any  connection  whfl^ 
ovi?  :v:v.-:».:i':r.e  Ordes  of  that  Ilk  in  BaafiU^ 
av..l  :;:■.»  v^vl-  s  of  l»rde  :u  the  chapelry  of  Twa«4^ 
>. .  N  .*  r :  li  n  aril  am.  { Since  le44  North  Jht^ 
::a.'.:  '...i*  i^-: :'.  a  ricirt  of  Northumberland.) 

v.^rd  \\\  A:*..'I.^->:ixon  means  a  beginning,  a  poh^ 
c\l^ .  ^r  :'r.^r.:.  ar:^l  the  word  continued  in  uelo^l^ 
f:-,r  :;::  :\  niiauoii  of  what  we  now  call  En^iAf 


.•t*. 


e'. 


-  i>-u  and  ende  he  hath  him  told.* 

Itoriz  amd  Blmmmek^fUa',  lia«  A 

•'  !W  5ede  up  to  bonle 
Wi(^  ^ode  toexdes  artft." 

£ivir«f%liBtlM 


the 


In  Suftolk  a  promantoij  it  ealled  an 
e  ^>c>i  of  CaithneM  is  fti] 


■tin 


OIlW. 

J 


.  IX.  March  30, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


269 


Aine  sugprests  that  the  name  of  the  villapre 
kvhich  the  English  Ordt-s  tuok  their  name 
ave  been  given  "  with  reference  to  the  steep 
fr  bank  of  the  Tweed  on  whicli  the  Iiamlet 
./'  Henry  de  Orde  was  .settled  here  hi 
and  shortly  after  Klwnldus  de  Orde,  per- 
lis  son,  gave  lands  to  Tweedmouth  hospital, 
■it  up  a  cross  in  the  fields  of  Orde,  calle(l 
d's  cross.  The  family  liaa  always  held  a 
e  place  among  the  border  gentry,  and  h«s 
ed  with  many  good  houses:  c. //.,  Kiddel, 
T,  Ilaggerston,  Selby,  IVnwick,  and  Las- 
For  pedigrees  and  much  other  informa- 
?ee  liaine,  JN'oW/*  Durham,  pp.  27,  158,  248, 
0:5,  311,  ;}!>().  Kdwakd  Peacock. 

»ford  Manor,  I'rigg. 

CTE-DELL   AND    CoT    (1**  S.,    2°**  S.   pUAsim.) 

en  years  ago  I  mentioned  in  these  pages 
xaniples  of  sancte-bell  cots  (one  with  the 
hat  were  not  <!iven   in  JMoxam's  (JhtsMiry. 

now  acid  to  thes«.»  the  bell-cv.»t  at  Mark(?t 
)n,   Rutland,  but  its  b(-ll  has  disappeared. 

just  beun  ri;-readii!g.  with  mui-h  pnditand 
re,  Hixtorual  and  Anhitcctural  iWf.t  on  the 

Churchi'n  in  find  around  Veferhoroutfh,  by 
ev.  W.  I).  Sweeting.  In  his  account  of 
igton  (p.  84),  he  says,  *' between  the  nave 
laiicel  si.'inds  a  bell-cot.  In  general,  bell- 
3  at  Peukirk  and  Longthorpe,  are  at  the 
nd.'  His  work  gives  a  good  photograph  of 
arch  :  and  the  liell-C(^t  in  question  ."-eems  to 

have  been  ori;iinallv  the  sancte-bell  cot: 
n  the  absence  of  any  western  bell-cot, 
I  for  ordinary  purposes.  Mr.  Sweeting  has 
?d  his  Wv:irk  with  an  excellent  index,  divided 
mr  parts ;  but  as  he  has  n<^t  therein  made 
n  of  the  j>an(!tus-bell,  I  may  observe  that 
•k  supplies  specimens  at  pp.  13,  28,  72,  77, 
.,  100.     Centenarians  are  mentioned  at  pp. 

88,  100;  and,  perhaps,  Mk.  TiiOMS  may 
I  of  this  reference.  At  p.  82  may  bo  found 
y  use  of  the  word  "  gent.,"  from  a  nionu- 
\i  Paston  :   *'  lie  was  a  harned  vK:  i-eligiovs 

date  iG'io.  CurnnEiiT  Bede. 

TTA    CAVAT  -LArrDKM,"  KTC.   (4^^   S.   ix.    82, 

•In  njy  remarlis  on  this  proverbial  expres- 

intended  mertrly  to  make  an  attempt  to 
le  ])articular  form  in  which  I  gave  it  to  its 

and  I  stated  that  1  believed  the  Hue  to 
jen  formed  by  Schonheim  (Leipsic,  1728). 

friend  Mk.  IIaix  Ikiswell  draws  our 
n  to  its  occurring  in  the  (Jradus  ad  Par- 

I  would  ask  if  any  one  can  tell  us  the 
the  first  edition  of  that  useful  work  ?  Mr. 
no  doubt,  right  in  saying  that  Biort  (about 
)  quotes  the  proverb ;  but  he  is,  of  course, 
hat  it  can  be  traced  two  hundred  years 

back.  Siwplicius  in  hia  commentary 
tat. lii^sic,  AusmU.yy'm.  2,  p.  420  (Brand), 


I  tells  us  that  the  earliest  form  of  the  proverb  was 

'  due  to  Cho'rilus  of  Samos,  who  is  supposed  to 

I  have  been  born  about  u.c.  470.     He  quotes  the 

I  precise  words  that  I  gave  from  Galen.     The  idea 

I  was  a  favourite  with  Latin  poets.     1  see  in  my 

I  Latin  volume  that  1  quote  from  Lucretius  (i.  314), 

!  *' Stillicidi  casus  lapidem  cavat";    and  I   might 

I  also  have  given  from  the  same  author  (iv.  1282) 

I  the  following  lines :  — 

"  Nonne  vides  etiam  jjuttas  in  saxa  cadontes 
liumoris  longo  in  spatio  pertunderc  saxa  ?  *' 

Another  form  of  the  proverb  which  1  have  met 
somewhere  is — ''Assidua  stilla  saxum  excavat." 
Can  this  form  be  traced  to  its  source  ? 

I  have  no  doubt  that  English  poets  have  ap- 
propriated the  idea;  but  I  cannot  quote  a  line 
where  it  t)ccurs,  which  is  probably  only  a  proof 
of  my  being  less  acquainted  with  the  poets  of  my 
.own  country  than  with  the  ancient.  In  Mr.  IIaix 
Friswkll's  useful  work,  Familiar  Words,  I  do 
not  see  any  example ;  but  I  dare  say  that  he  can 
supply  it. 

1  believe  that  Schonheim  formed  the  Latin 
hexameter  in  question,  unless  it  can  be  shown 
that  the  tirst  edition  of  the  Gradus  ad  Purimsswn 
was  publi>hed  before  1728;  and  also  that  the  line 
occurs  in  that  lirst  edition,  for  much  has  been 
subsequently  added.  C.  T.  Homage. 

Les  peetres  D6roRTf:s  (4'**  S.  ix.  76,  14G.) — 
Your  correspondent  will  doubtless  fmd  informa- 
tion on  this  subject  in  the  following  booke,  the 
titles  of  which  have  been  extracted  from  a  cata- 
logrue  of  books  for  sale  in  Paris. 

As  foreign  books  are  not  always  easy  of  access 
in  this  country,  I  have  furnished,  through  the  aid 
of  a  friend,  full  particulars  as  regards  the  sale  for 
your  correspondent's  information  : — 

Lot  2.-,*ft.  **  Martyrolope  du  clergc  fraiK^ais  pendant  la 
revolution."     Taris,  1^40,  in-12,  broche. 

Lot  249.  **  Vie  privee  dcs  ecciesiabtiques,  prelats  et 
autres  fonctionnaires  publicd  qui  out  prote  icur  senuent 
snr  la  coti>titutiou  civile  du  clergd,  par  Dulauie."  Paris, 
1701.  iii-«,  denii-rtliurc,  maroquin  rouj;e. 

Lot  2.Vi.  *'  Listf  des  citoyens  qui  out  obtonu  la  radia- 
tion de'tinitive  de  leur  noin  dos  hstes  d'c'ini.^res  (5^  (>',  7% 
h'\  0*"  et  10«»  listes).  A  la  <>•  Hste  est  ajoutee  eelle  des 
prctres  dc'portvs  ou  reclus,"  etc.  etc.,  1  vtl.  iu-8,  ve'lin 
vert. 

Ci'S  livrcs,  faisant  partie  de  la  bibliotheque  de  M. 
le  Cojnt<^  de  Lambiliy,  serout  >'endu8  h  rari>,  le  lundi  4 
mars  1»72,  kX.  las  Kept  jours  suivants,  u  7  h.  ^  du  eoir, 
rue  deH  IJons-Knfants.  2S.  Maison  Sylvestre,  salle  N°  2, 
par  le  niinistere  de  M*  Maciet,  coinmissairc-priiicur,  75 
rue  d'.*  la  Victoire. 

Charles  Mason. 

3,  Gloucester  Crescent,  Hyde  Park. 

BalddrsbbX  (4»»»  S.  ix.  159,  210.)— In  the  first 
volume  of  Grimm's  Deutsche  M^hologie  (p.  20.'^, 
he  writes — "  The  bright  plant  named  Baldwsbrdf 
after  the  white  brow  of  the  god,  is  either  the  Ati- 
thernis  cotida  ....  or  Matricaria  iHoriUma  inodwa, 
which  has  the  same  name  in  Iceknfl."    The  An* 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«>>S.IX.1Ubob8Q^7% 


thentis  is  also  called  hdUenshrOj  ballensbrdy  and  bar- 
grogrds.  In  the  Prose  Edda  we  find  "  the  whitest 
of  all  plants  is  called  Baldur's  brow/'  In  a  note 
to  Northern  Antiquities^  by  Mr.  Mallet^  this  is  ex- 
plained as  "  Atith^nis  cotuluj  still  called  baldursbrd 
in  some  parts  of  Sweden."  Sir  W.  Hi)oker  says 
the  common  name  of  Baldmoney  is  a  corruption 
of  Baldur,  the  Apollo  of  the  North,  to  whom  this 
plant  was  dedicated.  Gerarde,  however,  calls  the 
Gentian  Baldmoney  in  his  Herbal, 

The  AuTHofe  of  "  On  the  Edge 
OF  THE  Storm.*' 

The  lines  quoted  are  the  last  four  of  a  poem  of 
fifty-eight  lines  entitled  "  Baldur,"  published  in 
voL  xxvii.  p.  260,  of  the  Family  Herald^  1870. 
Beference  to  the  weekly  number  is  Aug.  21,  1869. 
The  poem,  a  good  one,  has  the  initials  "  C.  C." 

Thos.  Ratcliffe. 

FiNDERNE  Flowers  (4"*  S.  viii.  passim ;  ix.  23, 
80,  149, 189.)— Unfortunately  for  S.'s  theory,  the 
"Jerusalem  cowslip"  (Pulvionaria  officinalis)  is 
not  a  native  of  the  Holy  Land. 

James  Britten. 

Sola  or  Solah  (4'»»  S.  ix.  196.)— Not  the 
"pith,"  but  "  the  pith-like  stem  oi^AHschynomene 
aspera,  on  account  of  its  extreme  lightness,  used 
in  India  for  making  hats,"  &c.  (Treasury  of 
Botany f  p.  24.)  James  Britten. 

"Thanksgiving "  (4»»»  S.  ix.  202.)-;The  index 
to  the  publications  of  the  Parker  Society  shows 
that  this  word  was  used  by  Nowell,  Sandvs, 
Becon,  Jewell,  and  Bradford.  I  recollect  also 
meeting  with  it  in  Hooker.  There  are  twenty- 
six  references  to  the  word  in  my  copy  of  Cruden's 
Concordance  to  the  Holy  Scriptures^  tenth  ed.  1838. 

K.  r.  D.  E. 

Levelis  of  Barbados  (4»*»  S.  ix.  201.) — ^The 
information  required  is  obtainable  from  the  parish 
registers,  &c.  of  Barbados.  The  name  is  of  con- 
siderable interest,  especially  as  regards  its  origin. 

J.  H.  0.  A. 

NOTES  ON  BOOKS,  ETC. 

Lectures  on  the  History  of  the  Church  of  SMtland,  deli- 
vered in  Edinburgh  in  1872.  By  Arthur  PenrhjTi 
Stanley,  D.D.,  Dean  of  Westminster,  Corresponding 
Member  of  the  Institute  of  France.    (Murray.) 

• 

There  are  few  subjects  with  whicli  well-educated  Eng- 
lishmen arc  less  familiar  than  the  Ecclesiastical  History 
of  Scotland,  intimately  mixed  up  as  such  history  is  with 
the  political  and  social  history  of  the  country ;  and  a 
small  volume  which  should  present  a  clear  but  distinct 
outline  of  the  subject  could  not  be  otherwise  than  welcome 
to  many  readers.  The  Dean  of  Westminster  has  peculiar 
fitness  for  such  a  task ;  with  a  keen  perception  of  the 
salient  points  and  more  striking  characteristics  of  what- 


ever may  be  the  subject  of  his  investigatiou,  he 
bines  the  scarcely  less  important  gift  of  bringing  fbiwiid 
the  results  of  his  inquiries  in  a  manner  to  command  tbe 
attention  of  his  hearers  and  readers.    For  the  inatOTials 
of  the  Lectures  before  us,  the  Dean  avows  that  Im  is  not 
indebted  to  his  own  researches  among  ancient  reowdi 
and  contemporary  documents,  but  has  been  oontnt  to 
use  the  materials  which  the  learning  and  industry  of  pn- 
vious  scholars  have  broujo^ht  to  light,  to  whose  labonn 
and  merit  he  does  full  justice    So  that  in  the  wrenl  loo- 
tures~On  the  Celtic,  Medinval,  and  Episcopal  ChnidiM; 
On  the  Church  of  Scotland,  the  Covenant,  ana  theSeoadug 
Churches ;  On  the  Moderation  of  the  Church  c^  SooUndl 
and  On  the  Present  and  the  Future  of  the  Ghnrefa  m 
Scotland — the  reader  has  the  impreosionB  which  a  ito^ 
of  the  writings  of  the  best  authorities  on  these  reopertifo 
subjects  has  left  upon  the  mind  of  one  of  the  most  aoooB- 
plished  and  most  liberal  of  Anglican  divines.    The  Lee- 
tures  are  preceded  by  the  sermon  which  the  Dean  pretektd 
in  the  Old  Grey  Friars'  Church  on  the  first  Sondqr  b 
the  present  year,  on  the  Eleventh  Commandment--^ A 
new  commandment  I  give  unto  you,  that  ye  km  OM 
another ;   as  I  have  loved  yon,  that  ve  allio  lore  cm 
another  " — which  forms  a  fitting  introanction,  andgbai 
the  key-note,  to  the  Lectures. 


Studies  in  English  Prose^  consisting  of  8peekme»sjf^ 
Lfinguage  in  its  EarUestf  Succeeaing,  tatd  ZmkImsI  Arts' 
With  Note*  expianatory  and  CritiealJ'  ami  a  Sksltk  if 
the  History  of  tlie  English  Language^  and  a'  Ckatki 
Analo- Saxon  Grammar.  Intended  as  a  T\aet'Bsskpr 
Schools  and  Colleges.  By  Joseph  Payne,  Tkt^t^ 
sident  of  the  Council  of  the  College  of  PieeqilM 
(Lockwood.) 

The  readers  of  **N.  &  Q.'/  have  been  indebted  to  tkl 
Editor  of  the  work  before  *us  for  so  many  artlebi  tf 
great  philological  interest  and  valae,  that  any  iwtrir 
upon  his  qualifications  as  a  guide  to  the  study  of  EaifiA 
prose  would  be  altogether  out  of  place.  We  may  nwA* 
fore  content  ourselves  with  supplementing  the  dsoertptfM 
of  the  book  given  in  its  title,  by  saying  that  Mt.  "!■" 
"  claims  to  be  the  first  who  has  presented  to  the  piWl 
specimens  of  the  entire  English  language  with  a  oHi- 
mentary  of  illustrative  notes,  pointing  ont  tlM  lulni 
changes  effected  in  it  from  age  to  age.  His  appresitfki 
of  the  term  *  English '  is  that  of  Palgrave,  Crul^  OMh- 
aj'ne.  Freeman,  and  others,  who  have  proved  dseU«4f 
that  the  language  of  i^thelbert,  Beda,  iKlfired,  and  JDtk 
was  *  English,'  that  the  people  who  spoke  it  was  the'  XVf 
lish '  people,  and  that  the  land  which  they  occnpisdMi 
Engle-land,  the  land  of  the  Angles  or  EngUn."  Hip 
specimens  commence  with  iElfred's  versioa  <tf  the  litKf 
of  Orpheus,  and  the  account  of  Pope  Gnooiy  aad  IM 
Anglo-Saxon  slaves  at  Rome,  as  told  by  JBuHe  In  oMrf 
his  Ilomilies,  and  conclude  with  specimens  of  OsitpH 
Julius  Charles  Hare,  and  Kuskin,  so  that  tbeviewofftt 
rise  and  gradual  development  of  the  tongue  that  Ohils 
spcarc  spake,  is  as  complete  as  the  illnstntions  tnd  dM 
are  instructive  and  satisfactory. 

The  Year-Book  of  Facts  in  Science  amd  Art,  exkihUmg^ 
most  important  Discoveries  and  IwqmfotwuMts  of^fff 
Year^  in  Mechanics  and  the  Usefu  Arts:  Nttunit^ 
losophy;  Electricity;  Chemistry;  ZoobgyamdB&imft 
Geology  and  Mineralogy  ;  Astronomy  md  Mi(tmnk§h 
By  John  Timbs.    (lockwood  &  COb) 

This  new  volume  of  Mr.  Timbs's  most  Qsrfbl  IMIMI 
contains  not  only  what  its  title-page  annoinnsi  i  ^ 
cord  of  scientific  proppress  during  the  Tear  1871— ftjiffc 
addition  to  a  Memoir  (with  portoait)  of  Sir  ""' 
Thomson,  the  President  of  the  British  ' 
his  Inaugural  Address,  an  UUtaaiy  of 


4*  s.  IX.  Mabch  30,  '72.]  NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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in  Literature,  Science,  and  Art ;  but  which  has  one  defect, 
which  Mr.  Timbs  will  do  well  to  remove  in  future  years — 
these  notices  do  not  contain  that  important  fact,  the  date 
of  death. 

Holbein  Exhibition. — The  Burlington  Fine  Arts, 
Clab  propose  to  exhibit  a  collection  of  the  works  of  this 
gpreat  master  at  their  rooms  in  Saville  liow  in  the  course 
of  next  month.  Our  readers  who  remember  that  Mr. 
Black  showed  by  his  discovery  of  Holbein's  will  that  he 
died  eleven  years  earlier  than  had  been  supposed,  will 
probably  agree  with  us  in  thinking:  that  the  Burlington 
Clab  would  do  good  service  to  the  history  of  art  in  this 
country  if  they  could  make  this  exhibition  subservient  to 
clearing  up  the  question,  who  painted  many  of  the  por- 
traits commonly  attributed  to  Holbein,  but  which,  hav- 
ing been  painted  subsequent  to  1543,  cannot  possibly  be 
the  work  of  his  hand.* 

In  the  first  number  of  "  X.  &  Q.*'  issued  on  Nov.  3, 1849, 
that  ripe  scholar,  Mr.  Bolton  Cornet,  suggested  the 
publication  of  a  Dictionary  of  anon3'mous  and  pseudony- 
mous works,  as  essential  to  the  perfection  of  literary  his- 
tory, literary  biography,  and  bibliography.  After  the 
lapse  of  twenty- three  years,  we  are  happy  to  find  an- 
nounced for  publication  in  t^vo  volumes,  demy  4to,  the 
following  work  :  A  Dictionary  of  the  Anonymous  and 
Pgeudonynums  Literature  of  Great  Britain^  including  the 
Works  of  Foreigners  written  in,  or  translated  into,  the 
English  Language.  By  the  late  Samuel  llalkett,  Esq., 
Keeper  of  the  Advocates'  Library,  Edinburgh.  Mr.  T. 
H.  Jamieson,  Mr.  Halkett's  successor,  and  the  Rev.  John 
Laing,  librarian  of  the  New  College  Library,  have  kindly 
undertaken  the  duties  of  editorship.  The  work  will  be 
published  by  William  Paterson,  74,  Princes  Street,  Etlin- 
bnrgh. 


muse^  is  an  abrupt  emhiencey  not  far  from  the  river  Tyun, 
in  Caermarthenshire. 

Sektee  (Leicester). —  The  birth  of  Frederick^  second 
Earl  of  Guilford  is  thus  announced  in  the  Historical 
Register,  xviii.  19 :  *' April  14, 1732,  the  lady  of  the  Right 
Hon.  the  Lord  Guilford^  safely  brought  to  bed  of  a  son 
and  heir^  at  his  lordship's  house  in  Albemarle  Street^  St. 
James's. 

G.  (Kdinburgh.)  — Twe/ce  articles  on  "Muffs  worn  by 
gentlemen^^  appeared  in  our  First  Series^  vols,  v,  to  ix. 

M.  B.  (Durham.) — The  only  editions  of  CroxalTs 
Fables  of  iEsop,  illustrated  by  Bewick^  as  noticed  by  the 
Rev.  T.  Hugo  in  The  Bewick  Collector  and  Supplement^ 
18G6-68,  arc  </io»c  o/1783[?],  1785,  1804,  1810,  1813, 
181 1>. 

Z.  Z. — Simnel  cakes  can  boast  a  much  higher  antiquity 
than  the  reign  of  Henry  VII.,  «N.  &  Q.,"  2nd  S.  v.  441. 
Consult  also  the  1«*  S.  iii.  506  ;  iv.  212  ;  ix.  322 ;  x.  393  ; 
2'>d  s.  V.  234,  307,  345. 

J.  C.  J. — Manuscripts  of  Hugh  Broughton  are  in  the 
British  Museum,  Harleian,  Nos.  787,  1038,  1525,  and 
Egerton,  791. 

F.  S.  Donaldson  (Bayswater). — The  lines  will  be 
found  in  Pope's  Essay  on  Man,  Epist.  i.  273,  4. 

Erratum. — l***  S'.  ix.  p.  248,  col.  ii.  line  1, /or  "pro- 
cure "  read  "  pursue." 

XOTICE. 

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the  sender,  not  necessarily  for  publication,  but  as  a  guarantee  of  good 
faith. 


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HrDIBRAfi.    1st  Editiun. 

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Pbookkdixob  of  the  Society  ok  ANTignARiES  of  Scotland. 
CmMOSiiciMB  OF  Scotland,  by  Boecc.  tmnnlated  by  Bellcnden.    ISSI. 
Efttaphb    and    Monumental    Inscriitions   in    Ureyfblaus* 
Crobchtard,  by  Jas.  Brown.    I»t67. 

Wanted  by  Jf<u»rs.  Kerr  4r  JRichardson.'^d,  Queen  Street, fiUugow. 


fiatitti  ta  CarresTpanlrenU. 

Among  other  papers  of  interest  necessarily  postponed 
tSl  next  week,  are  How  to  describe  a  Book ;  Seldenus  dc 
Biis  Syrii^  by  Mr,  Bates  ;  Dix  the  Biographer  of  Chat- 
tertoD,  ^c. 

GuinrER. — Potato  in  the  singular,  like  all  other  nouns 
ending  in  o,  makes  its  plural  by  adding  es,  as  negro,  negroes  ; 
calico^  calicoes,  Sfc.  In  like  manner,  the  third  person  sin- 
pmlar  of  verbs  ending  in  o  is  formed  by  adding  es,  as  do, 
does;  go, goes. 

UsBDA  (Philadelphia). — Grongar  HiU,  which  hat  de- 
rwed  a  kmd  of  poetical  immortality  from  John  Dyer*t 


PAETEIDGE    AND    COOPEB, 

MANUFACTURING  STATIONERS, 
192,  Fleet  Street  (Comer  of  Chancery  Lane). 

CARRIAGE  PAID  TO  THE  COUNTRY  OH  ORDERS 
EXCEEDING  SOc 

MOTE  PAPER,  Cream  or  Blue,  S«.,  4s.,  bs.,  and  6«.  per  ream. 

ENVELOPES, Cream  or  Blue,  *».  6<f.,  is.  6d.,  and  0«.  6d.  per  1,000. 

TUE  TEMPLE  ENVELOPE,  with  High  Inner  Flap,  Is.  per  100. 

STRAW  PAPER^-Improved  quality,  fs.td.  per  ream. 

FOOLSCAP,  Hand-made  OntBides,8«.  M.  per  ream. 

BLACK- BORDERED  NOTE,  4a.  and  6t.  6d.  per  ream. 

BLACK-BORDERED  ENVELOPES,  Is.  per  100-Super  thick  qnalit 

TINTED  LINED  NOTE,  for  Home  or  Foreign  Correspondence  Cflv 
colours),  5  qnirea  for  U.  6*1. 

COLOURED  STAMPING  (Relief),  reduced  to  4s.  6d.  per  ream,  or 
8s.  Sd.  per  1,000.  Polished  Steel  Crest  Dies  engraved  jQrom  bs. 
Monograms,  two  letters,  from  &«.;  three  letters,  from  7s.  BoainMa 
or  Adoress  Dies,  from  3s. 

SERMON  PAPER,  plain,  4s.  per  reami  Ruled  ditto,  4s.  6d. 

SCHOOL  STATIONERY  rapplied  on  the  moat  liberal  terma. 

nitutrated  Price  List  of  Inkstands,  Despatch  Boxes,  Stationery, 
Cabinets,  Postage  Scales,  Writing  Cases,  Portrait  Albums,  *c,  poit 

(ESTABLISHSD  1841.) 

The  YellnmWove  Club-house  Paper, 

Mannfkctured  expressly  to  meet  an  uniyersally  experienced  want,  i,e.m 
paper  which  shall  in  itself  combine  a  perfectly  smooth  rarfltce  with 
total  freedom  frrom  grease. 

The  New  Vellum  Wove  Olub-House  Paper 

will  be  found  to  possess  these  peculiarities  completely,  being  made  from 
the  best  linen  rags  only,  poswasing  great  tenaicity  and  durability,  and 
presenting  a  snrfooe  equally  well  adapted  for  oaill  or  steel  pen. 

The  NEW  VELLUM  WOVE  <^UB-HOUSE  PAPER  surpasses 
all  otikers  for  smoothness  of  sorfooe,  delicat^  of  colour,  firmness  of  tex- 
ture, entire  absence*  of  any  colouring  matter  or  injurious  chemicals, 
tendmg  to  impair  its  dnralnlity  or  in  any  way  afliBcting  its  writfaig  pro- 
perties.— A  Sample  Packet,  containing  an  Ajsortaient  of  the  Tanooa 
Blses,  post  free  for  14  Stamps. 

FABTBIDGB  ft  COOPER,  Mannfoetaren  and  Sole  Vendon* 
19S,  Fleet  Street,  S.C. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4nS.IX.  MabchSO.'TI 


CHEISTZAIT  XKBCSIFTIONS   IK  THE 
IBISH  LAITGITAQE, 


.ihI  nnnr  klililkiul  InvrlirliiiiH|jniH 


A  SCIEST  ASD  MODKRS  COINS, MBDAIA &o. 

Tf-B^  AnviHlniut  lUIr  AiHii  II  l.H,    Mo|irinlc<1IMil1tiniM, 


■pRESCII. 

9.  Royiil 

Ki.-liiMurc.  London.  Wiitcli, 

iSldcr.   EiukU'lwtA.i>.  IHH. 
■in  SELL  by  AUCTION,  »t 

a  TOli,_Ow"ill.''jr;r:e';'i'"A(h';m's7i>.'?''"1<.*l»Il[I  »™_ll"°c""i""; 
mtntll.  *B-«  4  nlA.  ilg, — T>u  XaSjUh  OllraillfilBii.  Si  n-U — f<TL^H:'# 


TO    INVESTORS. 
SiTidends  10  to  20  per  Cmt.  on  Ontlq; 


TKH       ITBW      BJkAOX      IM-S 

DRAPER'S  DICHROIC  IVX. 

to  liLflt,    FliiwitylTy  frum  Ihc  ^tn.    ONituiiE  ]>*W>n*f  N^^Ml! 

In  liilr-rlu,Tliii^amt]n>,uM-i>.,iiidk.Mdi.' ,_  ^ 
AcLaE*^  Mt4«*.  Bvelay  *  jtiiaik  PBrHninlnn  mmri,  LoHBL ^ 
JlWlvr.  MbucIihWi  A.  Rnw  >  Oi..  Iittrri  T.  XmbHIt'm, 
fl.  IVul'i  l-hurrkTuil.  lAHtoii  I  Wm.  Sdnidh  at.  OU:  ChWt 
J.^iduH.    »<l>>wb<3wlt>nnU,I)rw1ercI)npcrTDub«B^ 

niLBERT  J.  FHENOI. 
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■BisuH  UuB  Pilings.  BcuBud  BnUo.  Ylciulih  Vliwl »  lllimi 
^^niiU,  Blondil.DnniuLfnuU  Cltuls.  CBl>mlig»,(>rh     iUru 

8wiai«rwork>iBHEaDi7.i>i>ii)iu,Tiii«tnpiir,udiiuii>iiiui», 

A  i4inkv  rnllretlAil  Af  M u4r  hx  Rmhinit  CnmpDmH,  Klriy  Mkih, 


MR.  HOWARD,  Snrftmn-DcDtiBt,  fi2,  nwt  StT«t. 
!TII.<I»4  wl%riitl]iiliwi.wlriii.«  lianiini    TlHr/a.  rHcint 
tHj  r«fiifnl  iwiittlnii  I  will  lumort  una  pmwit  Iuk  teth.  •ad 


MECniS  WEniUKf}    PRESBHTS  eMwM 
Prr-liia  Ow.  lifMlni  Uta-  Work  Bum  ndBvLlM 
n,-n.]fmli;v^  Mrrtlmnl-iniainltA  n-rlllMTlUt  ^  >^ 


"0Z.0  ENGLISH"  FURNITURE. 


COIiIiIIfSOIf  and  LOCK  (late  Harrlif)^ 
GABIKET  HASEB8, 

infl,  FI-KKT  STKKET.  E.C.     EjUblUhtd  HWL  _ 

TAPESTRY  PAPERHANGINof 

Im  tallon.  at  r>re  D^a  BROCADES,  DAUABKB,  ul  IMMUt 
TAFESTIUB8. 

COLLIlTSOZr  and  LOCK  (lata  H«Ril|h 
DECOBATOBS, 

1IW,  FI.1!KT  STREET,  L05D0S. 


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'^'nurHiiiiERTii'^TiLVT-iiANTiMmoi'mn.&ivAiMW: 

S^ILr^ri^l,  tluT  »T  hi  &-  M  (U^BM  ^lka.1  ■■MM 

—  "■- 'lift.  lllkmiMlAlK|J>'.M,4lLM.IMjS»S 


MANILA  CIQARa— HES8U8.  TXNBIBa*OIL 

No  II. lU. mtDu.  OraiMliTllM     iiilitWtlBaM* 


B.  aufta  B«  grmk  Ik.M. 


4«k  S.  IX.  April  6,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


273 


LONDON,  SATURDAY,  APRIL  C,  1872. 


CONTENTS.— Ko  223. 

NOTES:  — How  to  describe  a  Book,  273  —  Weston-uiider- 
Ljcard,  co.  Stafford.  274—  Kiirial  UsmireH  in  Scotland,  27G 
— KeldeuuK  "  i>e  Diis  S.vris,"  lb.  —  Birthplace  of  Mason  the 
Pot't—  Ho«  th  Memorial  Ibnnerly  in  Brcinton  Church,  co. 
Hereford  —  "  Celtic  "  r.  -  K«>Ilif  "  —  Defects  in  MarriaRC 
R<'fci:}ters  —  TIiu  lato  Mr.  Albert  Smith  aud  hia  literary 
Gains  —  Church  Bells,  277. 

QUERIES :  -  The  Word  "  Physician,"  278  —  Early  Armorial 
Bearings -Bell  Candlei«tick  — '1  he  Bug  Family  — "Cat- 
tup"  or  **  Ketchup  "  —  John  Duuow  or  Dumow,  Canon  of  ! 
Exeter  —  Abbo  Edgeworth  —  Francis  Eocinton  —  "  Essayfi,  i 
Divine  and  Moral  "—Heraldic  —  The  Influcuce  of  Diet  ou  j 
Life—  MortJiaulx  —  Pierre  0«ier  —  •  The  Preaent  State  of 
Great  Britain "  —  Quotations  wanted  —  William  Secoll, 
1557  —  Nassau  Senior's  "  Biographical  Sketches"  —  Sir 
Thomas  Stanley  of  Graagegormanf^—  SturdiTaot  ~  Wes- 
ton-super-Mare, 278. 

BEPLIBS:  — Arms  of  Prince  Buuert.  281  —  Shakapea^: 
Contemporary  Criticism,  282  —  Lord- Lieutenant,  283  — 
"  Ncgavit  se  vivum  sub  terram  iturum  "  —  "The  Squire's 
Pew  "  —  Song:  "  Pye,  gae  rub  her"  —  Burials  in  Gardens 

—  "  Slary  is  Sonne"  —  Eyans  or  Eyanstoue  —  Staith  or 
Staithe— Throwing  PotftherdM  on  Doors— Burial  in  Woollen 

—  Origin  of  Tichboroe-"  Shilly-Shallj; "— •*  Hear !  bear  1 " 
~  Uauther:  Eastern  Counties  Provincialisms  —  Bums 
and  Kcble  —  Major  John  Wade  —  Sergius  —  Hubert  de 
Burgh  —  ••  Wagga- Wairga  "  —  Verrio  the  Painter  —  Chau- 
cer's Knowledge  of  Italian  —  **Bon8peiI:  Bonailla"  — 
Myfanwy  —  Puritan  Changes  of  Name  —  "  Whychcotte  of 
8t.  John's  " :  *'  The  Fortunate  Yout  h  "  —  Jervis :  Janris. 
Ac.  —  Length  of  Hair  in  3Ien  and  Women  —  Stamp  used 
Instead  of  the  Sign  Manual  of  Henry  VIII.,  &&,  283. 

Kotea  on  Books.  Ao. 


finXti. 

HOW  TO  DESCRIBE  A  BOOK.* 

Before  taking  up  the  subject  where  I  left  off  in 
xnj  last,  I  have  a  few  remarks  to  make  as  to 
describing  books.  There  can  be  little  doubt  that 
the  only  really  satisfactory  way  to  catalogue  a 
book  ie  to  ffive  the  title  in  full. '  In  former  times, 
when  nearly  every  title  was  a  sort  of  table  of 
contents,  such  a  system  was  impossible;  but  in 
the  proiient  day  it  is  more  practicable,  though  not 
Always  desirable.  Writers  of  pamphlets  are  espe- 
cially addicted  to  giving  a  table  of  contents  by 
way  of  title,  so  that  they  become  Iouk  in  an  in- 
vene  ratio  to  their  importance.  It  wiU  generaUy 
be  found  that  the  wider  the  subject  treated  of, 
the  shorter  is  the  title,  for  example— A  History 
of  Civilization.  If  we  aarrow  the  inquiry,  the 
title-page  expands  as :  A  History  of  Giviliuttion 
in  England ;  or  a  Dictionary  of  Authors — A  Dic- 
tionary of  English  Anonymous  Authors  of  the 
Nineteenth  Century. 

Books  aze  either  autonymous,  that  is,  with  the 
author's  name ;  polyonvmous,  that  is,  with  aeveral 
mnthors'  names;  pseuaonymous,  that  is,  with  a 
fictitious  name ;  or  anonymous,  that  is,  witiiout  any 
author's  name. 

^  Now  it  has  long  been  a  pzmctice  with  certain 
bibliographen  never  to  notice  paeudonymoua  or 
aaoByinoiu  worka,  without  at  once  apprising  the 

*  Continued  from  p.  8. 


student  of  the  fact  by  some  sign.  In  my  Hand- 
book of  Fictitious  Names  I  began  to  adopt  the  * 
pretixt»d  to  a  title  to  indicate  anonymity,  and  I 
now  j)ropose  a  —  prefixed  to  the  title  to  show  the 
pseudonymous. 

It  is,  however,  difficult  to  fret  readers  to  take 
the  trouble  to  learn  what  mgns  mean ;  and  it  may^ 
therefore,  be  preferable  in  some  cases  to  place 
the  abbreviations  (anon.)  or  (pseud.)  at  the  be- 
ginning or  end  of  the  title.  One  or  the  other  of 
these  methods  is  necessary  to  the  proper  descrip- 
tion of  an  anonymous  or  pseudonymous  work,  in 
addition  to  what  I  have  given  in  my  former  note ; 
though  what  I  there  say  as  to  publishers*  names 
applies  with  double  force  to  anonymous  works. 
If  a  work  is  published  in  London,  but  printed  in 
the  country,  this  fact  should  be  stated,  as  the 
country  town  frequently  gives  a  due,  and  leads 
to  the  identification  of  the  author. 

K  the  title  is  not  given  in  full,  two  or  three 
dots  should  indicate  where  there  is  any  abbre- 
viation. 

Any  additions  to  the  title  should  be  supplied 
in  brackets  [  ],  which  will  be  found  better  than 
parentheses  (  ),  as  these  are  so  frequentiy  used 
Dy  authors  themselves. 

I  have  applied  these  rules  in  transcribing  the 
list  of  Miss  Seaman's  publications.  If,  however, 
our  bibliographical  publications  are  tested  by  such 
rules,  they  will  with  rare  exceptions  be  found 
wanting.  Unless  certain  rules  are  stzictiy  ad- 
hered to,  the  student  is  sure  to  go  wrong.  The 
rules  are  simple,  and  only  what  common  sense 
and  experience  dictate.    ISo  rules  have  yet  been 

generally  agreed  upon,  but  most  bibliographers 
ave  laid  down  some  for  their  own  guidance,  and 
lamentable  generally  have  been  the  results.  The 
rules  for  making  the  catalogue  of  the  British 
Museum  have,  no  doubt,  done  great  good  in  the 
cause  of  accuracy. 

Probably  the  above  will  appear  to  some  tri- 
vial matters :  yet  what  thought  and  anxious  con- 
sideration do  most  authors  give  to  the  titles  of 
their  works,  before  they  finally  suit  their  fancy ; 
frequently,  indeed,  not  being  satisfied  with  them 
as  sent  forth  to  the  world.  How  has  the  author 
considered  whether  he  vnll.put  his  own  name,  or 
whether  he  will  write  under  a  fictitious  name  or 
his  initials,  or  simply  call  himself ''  A  Gentiemany 
or  designate  himself  by  the  office  he  holds  as  "a 
Magistrate."  Then  with  what  difficulty  has  be 
at  last  settied  upon  a  publisher,  and  for  what  a 
number  of  reasons  may  ne  have  done  so ;  and  yet 
some  ruthless  barbarian,  who  is  totally  ignorant 
of  all  the  trouble  tha(  has  been  taken,  and  who 
knows  nothing  of  the  subject,  cuts  down  our 
author's  titie  without  hesitation ;  or  perhaps,  what 
is  still  more  astoniahing,  an  author  himself^  al« 
though  he  has  given  the  matter  so  much  thoug^ty 
will  sometimes  on  being  asked  send  a  list  of  bis 


274 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


[4<»  S.  IX.  Aran.  6, 7& 


^701118,111  which  not  a  single  title  shall  be  correct ; 
in  which  he  will  leave  out  all  the  first  words, 
erroneously  state  the  subject  as  in  the  book  in- 
stead of  as  it  appears  on  the  title-page,  omit  to  say 
when  published — whether  with  his  own  name  or 
not — and,  finally  and  almost  invariably,  leave  out 
the  publisher's  name,  which  cost  him  so  much 
pains  to  decide  on. 

How  the  words  of  the  title-page  are  to  be 
printed  is  a  matter  worthy  of  consideration,  and 
which  affects  their  readableness.  In  the  titles 
themselves  capital  letters  are  freely  used :  it  is 
manifest  that  this  is  for  the  sake  of  ornament, 
and  not  for  the  sake  of  sense.  No  capitals  should 
be  employed  in  a  bibliographical  list,  except 
to  the  first  word  and  to  proper  names. 

X.  Y.  Z.  has  referred  to  me  flatteringly,  but  I 
may  show  him  how  little  I  deserve  this  by  de- 
claring that  I  do  not  know  ^'  How  to  describe  a 
Book"  in  the  way  that  he  refers  to.  Biblio- 
graphers, publishers,  printers,  and  booksellers  use 
the  same  terms ;  but  each  one  may  or  may  not 
describe  a  book  of  the  same  size,  when  respec- 
tively using  the  terms  12mo,  8vo,  4to,  &c.  &c. 
Elaborate  explanations  of  ways  of  folding  the  paper, 
and  water-marks  will  be  found  in  several  publi- 
cations, as  well  as  on  p.  122  of  this  volume ;  but  I 
do  not  find  persons  who  go  by  such  signs  always 
describe  booKs  of  the  same  size  in  the  same  way, 
neither  do  they  enable  one  positively  to  tell  the 
size  of  the  book  described. 

Having  made  these  few  preliminary  observa- 
tions, which  I  have  shortened  and  condensed  as 
much  as  possible,  fearing  that  I  have  already  been 
too  long,  I  now  proceed  where  I  broke  off  in  my 
first  note,  "How  to  describe  a  Book." 

oEAMAir  (Lucy),  the  daughter  of  a  Captain  in 
the  Royal  Navy,  bom  at  Rvde  the  23  May,  1801, 
wrote  several  works  which  are  held  m  high 
estimation,  and  died  of  consumption  on  the  15 
September,  1829.  The  following  are  the  only 
puolications  we  know  of  from  her  pen;  but  as 
she  published  without  giving  her  name,  there  are 
probably  others  unknown  to  us :  — 

(1)  *Iiemarks  on  the  education  of  girls  as  at 
present  conducted,  especially  with  reference  to 
private  tuition  and  the  system  of  boarding  schools 
lor  young  ladies.  London  (printed  at  Hyde),  for 
the  Author,  1822 :  12° :  iv.  33.  The  authoress  says 
that  her  father's  early  death  making  her  while 
very  young  acquainted  with  the  routine  of  teach- 
ing, was  the  cause  of  her  publishing  these  re- 
marks. 

(2)  —  Little  Lily,  a  moral  tale  for  children,  by 
a  lady,  author  of  Remarks,  &c.  Lond.  J.  Smith, 
1823:  8':  115:  2/6. 

This  is  the  first  edition  of  this  excellent  little 
book,  the  second  and  subsequent  editions  of  which 
were  published  with  her  name. 
We  observe  that  a  book  entitled  **  Little  lily'a 


travels,  Lond.  Nelson,  1860,"  has  been  paUielied; 
but  it  is  a  different  work  to  the  above. 

(3)  Miss  Maria  £dgeworth*s  tales  oompaxed 
with  other  works  of  fiction;  to  which  ia  added 
advice  for  the  selection,  and  a  list  of  works  most 
suitable  for  children;  by  ^e  Author  of  Littla 
Lily,  &c.  Lond.  J.  Smith,  1826  [1825],  18*: 
XI :  200:  3/. 

Though  from  the  tiitle-page  Hub  work  would 
appear  to  be  pseudonymous,  it  is  not  so,  as  the 
preface  is  signed  by  the  authoress.  In  it  she  com- 
plains of  her  failing  health,  and  expreesea  her 
great  respect  for  her  friend  Miss  Eidgeworth's 
writings. 

Here  it  will  be^obeerved  that  the  first  work  ii 
strictly  anonymous ;  that  is  to  say,  it  has  no  name 
on  the  title-page,  nor  any  name  nor  initials  to  ths 
preface;  and. has  in  fact  no  clue  whatever  as  to 
who  is  the  author,  as  the  reference  to  her  in  the 
imprint  cannot  be  considered  such.  But  from  id 
being  printed  at  Ryde  for  the  author,  thoiuh 
published  in  London,  it  may  be  inferred  that  ns 
resided  at  Ryde  at  the  time. 

The  second  work  is  pseudonymous,  as  the  sign  " 
indicates. 

The  third  work  would  appear  also  by  the  titU- 
page  to  be  pseudonymous  but  for  the  want  of  the 
sign  -  -,  and  in  fact*  we  find  that  it  is  autonynu)i% 
as  the  remarks  we  have  just  made  show. 

Olphab  Hijon. 


WESTON-UNDER-LYZARD,  CO.  STAFFORD. 

This  manor,  at  p.  104  of  this  volume,  is  inad- 
vertently placed  in  co.  Salop,  instead  of  in  eix 
Stafford ;  and  in  correcting  the  evident  slip  of  the 
pen  which  led  to  the  error,  it  may  be  of  mtsnik 
to  add  somewhat  regarding  it,  since  it  gave  • 
patronymic  to  a  family  described  by  the  ^minaaft 
historical  biographer  Edmund  Lodge,  Nonoy  King* 
at- Arms,  as  oeing  amongst  the  most  andentoC 
the  English  gentiy. 

The  following  details  to  the  year  1682  aie  ttkm 
from  public  documents,  &c.,  copies  of  w]aA  ait 
given  m  full  in  the  voluminous  evidences  attachsd 
to  the  elaborate  pedigraa  of  the  Westona  of  Was- 
ton-under-Lyzard,  duly  attested  and  sealed  lif 
Sir  William  Segar,  Garter  Kiiig-at-Aim& 

This  genealogy,  it  is  well  here  to  note,  doai 
not  correspond  in  some  important  partiealan  ivith 
that  set  forth  in  Harwood's  ^^tfenoidb's  jSMM- 
shire  (London,  1844),  which  would  i^pear  toMft 
been  taken  from  a  careless  transcript  of  tiie  on* 
giAal,  and  which,  in  addition  to  bein^  inooifeetin 
many  other  respects,  altogether  omita  ^Raml- 
phus  filius  Hugonis  de  fialgiole  tp£  StoplMi 
Regis/'  the  father  of  Hamo  de  Weatoii. 

The  information  regarding  the 
A.D.  1632  is  drawn  from  Buto'a 


i 


4*  S.  IX.  Apkii.  6,  T!.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


27S 


EttmrA  Peerage,  find  from  other  houtcm  whicb 
mar  be  implicitlj  relied  upon. 

Sir  Hamo  de  Weston,  Knt.,  tenip,  Henry  II., 
tras  the  grent- grandson  of  Beginnld  de  Bailleul  of 
BuUeuI-en-Ooufiem,  near  Argentan  in  Nonnandj, 
and  Lord  of  Weaton,  Berton,  Btoton,  and  New- 
ton, ia  Staffordshire,  and  divers  niaoora  in  other 
countiea  held  of  the  king  in  capite,  and  under 
Roger  de  Montgomerj,  his  wife's  uncle,  a.s.  1086. 
Due  lecord  of  these  facts  is  to  be  found  in  DomeS' 
day  Book.  Keginald  was  succeeded  by  his  son 
Hu^,  and  Hucb  by  hia  son  Ralph  de  Bolgiolo 
Tel  Baliol,  who  oeld  Weston,  &c.,  in  the  reign  of 
Sine  Stephen.  Sir  Hamo,  son  of  Ralph,  is  named 
in  the  Bed  Book  of  the  Exchequer  as  holding 
lands  in  Shropshire  nnder  William  Fitz-Alan,  and 
he  was  Lord  of  Weston  and  Blymenhull,  co.  Staf- 
ford, down  to  the  llth  of  King  John. 

It  is  not  shown  bow  and  when  the  estate  of 
Bailleul-en-Oouffem  became  alienated  ;  but  it  ia 
certain  that  its  loss,  about  the  reign  of  Stephen, 
led  to  the  adoption  by  Ilamo  of  the  name  of  the 
principal  possession  in  England  aa  the  family 
patronymic. 

From  Sir  Hsmo  de  Weston  descended,  amongst 
others  of  lesser  note,  the  Westona  of  Weatoil,  of 
Rugeley,  of  Lichfield  and  of  Weeford,  co.  Stafford ; 
of  Lane  House,  co.  Dorset;  of  Boston,  co,  lin- 
coln ;  of  Sutton  Place,  co.  Surrey ;  and  of  Prested 
Hall  and  of  Skreens  in  Bozwell,  co,  Emex, — 
families  which  numbered  amongst  tbeir  members 
mojty  knights,  several  of  the  Order  of  St.  John  of 
Jeraaalem  (Knights  Hospitallers) ;  Sir  William 
Weston  being  the  prior  when  that  order  was  sup- 
pressed in  England  by  Henry  VIII. ;  and  the 
Earls  of  Portland  lemp.  Charles  I.  to  James  II. 

Sir  John  de  Weston,  Knt.,  Lord  of  Weaton, 
Blymenhull,  Newton,  &c.,  temp.  Eldward  H.  and 
Edward  III.,  wna  the  son  of  Sir  Hugh,  who  was 
the  great-grandson  of  the  aboTe-named  Sir  Hamo. 
Sir  John  was  twice  married.  By  his  first  wife, 
Isabella  de  Bromley,  he  was  the  father  of  Thomas, 
who  succeeded  him,  and  of  five  daughters,  of  whom 
Anna  and  Elizabeth,  consequent  on  the  death  of 
Robert,  only  son  of  T?homas  de  Weston,  succeeded 
their  brother  as  co-beiresses. 

Sir  John  de  Weston,  by  his  second  marriage 
irith  Isolda  de  Newton,  had  issue  Robert  de  Wes- 
laOj  the  ancestor  of  the  Westona  of  Eugeley ; 
which  becoming  the  main  atem  on  the  death  of 
Thomas  de  Weston  above-named,  threw  off  ita 
ramifications  in  Staffordshire,  but  which  itself 
became  extinct  in  this  century  on  the  death  of 
Jane  Weeton,  who  married  Dr.  John  Heathfield 
Sokes  of  Oloucester-^vitality  alone  remaining  in 
the  direct  male  line  in  a  junior  branch  of  the 
ftnulj.  Sit  John  de  Weaton  held  the  important 
post  of  Comstable  of  Bordeaux  nnder  Edward  lU., 
Kd  died  AJ>.  1880. 
Tkt  aaciwt  and  tbtj  amaiu  punted  window 


in  the  church  of  Weston-under-Lyzard  still  re- 
presents him  in  chain  mail  and  coif  de  fer,  and 
wearing  a  aurcoat,  sable,  on  which  ia  emblazoned 
an  eagle  displayed  ardent ;  over  all  a  label  of  three 
pointa,  gules.  His  dame,  Isabella  de  Bromley, 
IS  attired  in  whimple  and  cote-hardiej^  with  a 
kirtle  or  loose  flowing  dress,  diaplayinK — Quarterly 
per  fess  indented,  or  and  gules.  Both  knight  and 
dame  are  in  the  attitude  of  prayer,  facing  inwards 
towards  the  centre  compartment  of  the  window, 
in  which  may  still  be  traced  the  remains  of  the 
representation  of  St  Andrew,  the  patron  saint. 
The  legend  beneath  the  kneeling  figures  is  on 
the  one  side  dns  johaiikbs,  and  on  the  other 
ISASELLA. :  and  shields  bearing  the  arms  of  Eng- 
land and  of  Warren,  Earl  of  Surrey ;  Albini,  Earl 
of  Arundel ;  Weston,  Audley,  and  Bromley  denoto 
the  alliances.  A  coloured  engraving  of  the  two 
lateral  compartments  of  this  window,  with  the 
figures  of  Sir  John  and  bis  dame,  ia  given  in 
Dallaway'a  HerMry  (Gloucester,  1793),  facing 
p.  109. 

In  the  chancel  of  the  same  church  are  cross- 
legged  monumental  effigies  of  Sir  Hamo  and  of 
Sir  Hugh  de  Weston,  and  several  interesting 
memorials  of  the  lords  of  the  manor,  from  the 
Mittons  to  the,Bridgemana,  are  to  be  found  within 
its  walls. 

We  now  return  to  t^e  issue  of  Sir  John  de 
Weston  b^  his  first  wife.  Anna  remwned  Mn^le, 
but  her  sister  Elizabeth  married  as-  her  third 
husband  Adam  de  Peshall,  and  their  son  Sir  Adam 
de  Peshall,  Ent.,  succeeded  aa  Lord  of  Weaton- 
under-Lyzard  in  right  of  bis  mother,  11  Richard  IL 

Margaret,  daughter  and  heir  of  Sir  Adam  da 
PeahaU,  married  Sir  Richard  Mitton,  and  their 
son  William  Mitton  was  possessed  of  the  manor 
of  Weston,  18  Henry  VI. 

William  Mitton,  great^great  gra^^on  of  the 
William  above-named,  died  without  issue;  and 
bis  sister  Jocosa,  who  married  John  Harpesfield 
of  London,  succeeded  to  the  estate ;  her  son, 
Edward  Harpesfield,  assuming  the  name  of  Mitton 
on  becoming  possessed  of  the  manor. 

The  grandson  of  this  Edward  was  Edward 
Mitton  of  Weaton,  living  in  1632,  who  married 
firstly  Elizabeth,  eldest  daughter  of  James  Wes- 
ton of  Lichfield — a  direct  descendant  of  Sir  John 
de  Weaton  above-mentioned  by  hia  second  wife, 
Isolde  de  Newton.  Edward  Mitton  had  no  issue 
by  this  marriage ;  but  by  his  second  wife,  Cecilia, 
daughter  of  Sir  John  SkeiEngton,  he  had  a  sole 
daughter  and  heir,  Klizabeth  Mitton,  who  married 
Sir  Thomas  Wilbrabam,  and  by  him  bad  three 
daughters,  who  became  co-beiresses.  Mary  Wil- 
braham,  the  youngest  daughter,  married  Richard 
Newport,  second  Earl  of  Bradford,  and  inherited 
hei  mother's  estates  at  Weaton-under-Lyiard,  &C. 
SeTeral  sons  by  this  marriage — three  of  tjiem  snc- 
cesBiTely  Earls  of  Bradford-^ed  without  issue; 


276 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4>>' &  IX  AmL  «» *1S. 


and  on  tho  decease  of  Thomas,  the  youngest  of 
them  and  the  fifth  Earl  of  Bradford,  the  title 
became  extinct.  Of  the  four  daughters,  Mary,  the 
eldest,  died  unmarried ;  Elizabeth  married  James 
Cocks,  Esq.,  whose  only  son  died  young;  Anne 
married  Sir  Orlando  Bridgeman,  Bart ;  and  Diana 
became  the  wife  of  Algernon  Coote,  Earl  of 
Mountrath.  Sir  Henry  Bridgeman,  eldest  son  of 
Sir  Orlando,  succeeded  to  Weston,  and  in  1794 
was  created  Baron  Bradford.  The  manor  is  now 
held  by  his  descendant  Sir  Orlando  George  Charles 
Bridgeman,  the  third  Earl  of  Bradford  of  the 
second  creation.  11.  H. 


BURIAL  USAGES  IN  SCOTLAND. 

Db.  C.  T.  Ramage  has  afforded  the  readers  of 
"  N.  &  Q."'  the  (to  many)  high  gratification  of 
perusing  the  copy  of  an  account  showing  the 
luneral  expenses  of  a  Dumfriesshire  laird  in  1776 
(4**»  S.  ix.  71);  aiid  the  account  which  follows, 
earlier  than  the  latter  by  thirty-seven  years,  is 
given  by  way  of  contrast  thereto,  being  the  ex- 
pense incurred  at  the  burial  of  a  Renfrewshire 
proprietor  (not  properly  a  laird,  but  a  good  man,  as 
lie  held  under  the  Stewarts  of  Blackball,  his  sub- 
ject-superiors),  who  owned  two  or  three  small 
farms  at  his  death  in  April,  1738 — ono  hundred 
and  thirty-four  years  ago  —  the  real  rental  of 
which,  at  the  present  time,  may  be  from  130/.  to 
180/.  Although  [married  he  had  no  descendants 
was  survived  by  his  wife,  and  succeeded  by  a 
nephew,  John  Caldwell  of  Lochside,  the  son  of  a 
sister  Margaret,  and  in  whose  handwriting  the 
account  is : — 

"  William  Stewart  of  Middelton's  Burial.  An  account 
of  the  expenses  of  W™  Stewart's  Funeral,  who  deceased 
April  26"',  17:i8,  and  was  buried  A  p.  *JO»h  :— 

Imp.  To  Warners  *  .... 

ItL  To  Michael  Nasmith  to  writte  letters  f 

I(t.  To  expenses  tlien  at  Lochwiunoch   . 

Itt.  To  Da.  Mc  Quivan  10  pecks  of  tluur 

I  tt.  To  8  pound  of  Currants    . 

Itt.  To  17  pound  of  Butter      . 

Itt.  To  4  pound  of  brown  Suggare  . 

Itt.  To  2  pound  of  white  Supgarc  . 

Itt.  To  ^  pound  of  white  Carvio 

Itt.  .To  a  Dizen  of  Eggs,  &  3  pints  of  Ale 

Itt.  To  the  More-ch»ath  J         .        .        . 

Itt.  To  the  poor,  dealt  in  money 

Itt.  To  Wash-cloathp,  and  to  ve  relict    . 

Itt.  To  Strands  for  fi  gallons  of  eall,  *fe  6  bear§    10  00  00 

•  The  "wamers"  were  those  employed  to  warn  or 
invite  verbally  to  the  burial. 

t  M.  Nasmith  was  parish  schoolmaster  of  Lochwin- 
noch,  the  letters  being  those  used  in  inviting  parties 
residing  at  a  distance,  or  of  higher  rank. 

X  **  More-cloath "  for  mort-cloth,  generally  of  ailk 
velvet,  fringed  and  tasaelled,  covering  the  co£Sn  when 
carried  on  hand-spokes  to  the  graveya^ 

I  "  Strtfhda  "  a  party  (Robert  Orr)  receiving  the  name 
of  nispn^rty. 


£? 

s.    d. 

.  00 

16  00 

.  00 

12  00 

.  00  Ofi  00 

.  10  00  00 

.  01 

00  00 

.  08 

08  00 

.  01 

04  00 

.  01 

04  00 

.  00  07  06 

.  00 

07  00 

.  02 

10  00 

.  05 

or>  00 

.  00 

18  00 

Itt  To  22  bottles  of  Wine 16  10  10 

Itt.  To  7  pints,  on  Chapin  aqna-vite  .  06  15  l6 

Itt.  To  19  Dizen  pips,  and  3  £  of  tobacco*     .  08  07  06 

Itt.  To  Rott  Barbour  for  the  Coffine  .  12  00  00 

Itt.  To  make  the  Grave 00  IS  00 

Itt.  To  muming  gloves  for  the  widdow  .  02  06  W 

Itt.  To  D'  Cuming,  drogs,  &  bis  pains  .        .  14  00  00 

Suma    .  96  10  OS 
EsPEDABIi 


SELDENCS  «  DE  DIIS  SYRIS." 

Among  the  meagre  ancl  blundering  notet  nith 
which  Dr.  Parr  was  wont  to  drform  tne  HjAsum 
of  his  books,  seems  to  have  been  the  followiM 
(Bibliotheca  Parriana,  p.  380)  in  the  leaned  aBt 
interesting  work  the  title  of  which  heads  ft* 
note:  — 

'*  This  book  was  not  written  by  Selden. — S.  P." 

The  treatise  in  qaestion  is  well  known  to  \t 
the  production  of  Selden,  and  I  have  new  IMB 
or  heard  its  authorship  disputed  elaewhen  or  ek^ 
where.  It  first  appeared  in  1617,  and  waa  » 
printed  in  Holland  m  1627.  A  well-printed  ai 
correct  edition  (penes  me)  was  issued  bj  Ab 
Elzevirs  at  Leyden  in  1639 ;  and  there  ara  oi^ 
tions  ^m  the  press  of  Leipzig  of  1662  and  16BI 
But  I  possess  also  and  greatly  esteem  an  aditk% 
which  1  do  not  find  noticed  by  bibliographeny  pd^ 
lished  at  Amsterdam  in  1681.  Tma  edition  M 
the  title  indicates,  is  — 


"  Juxta  alteram  Ipsius  Antoris  operft 
auctioremque  omnium  noviasima,  additamentia  ct  U^ 
cibns  oopiosissimiB  locapletata,  q)erft  M. . 


The  learned  notes  of  this  editor  extend  ti 
nearly  four  hundred  pages^  and  more  than  donlli 
the  thickness  of  the  vofume.  They  are  nunaofV 
full  of  curious  matter  in  illustration  of  the  wAr 
ject  of  the  book^  and  indicate  a  large  amouit  d 
learning. 

The  question  remains :  Is  there  any  fooidatiBi 
for,  or  what  gave  rise  to,  Parr'a  note  P  Pmto 
this  may  be  answered  hj  a  rememfaranoe  of  W 
fact,  that  there  does  exist  a  treatise  which  kv  ' 
been  wrongfully  ascribed  to  Selden.  Thia  ii  Af 
work  of  Alessandro  Sardi,  an  Italian  of  Feifl^  « 
entitled  — 

"  De  Numis,  Tractatiu  in  qao  antiqua  Pecimia  1^ 
mana  ac  Gneca  metitnr  pretio  ejus  qua  onnc  eit  iafl^ 
Moguntia?,  1579,"  4to. 

Of  this  treatise,  which  was  included  by  Gmf&i 
in  the  eleventh  volume  of  his  Themmnm^  an  efi- 
tion  was  published  at  London  in  1676^  la  wUdI 
the  authorship  was  ascribed  to  Seldoo.  It  jf 
pears  in  Dr.  I*arr*s  Catalogue  (p.  9&S\  with  tft 
attribution ;  and  either  the  Doctor  to(«  doir&tti 

*  The  number  of  pipes  (228)  may  „ 
of  the  number  expected  to  attend  tta 
invited. 


3.  IX.  April  6, '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIEa 


wrong  Tolume  whan  he  made  tiii  note,  or  (vhicb 
is  jet  more  probable)  the  editor  of  the  Cntalogne 
is  snawenble  fat  the  error  in  omn^D^  the  dtlee 
for  the  preM.  Willi  ah  Bates,  B.A. 

BirmiDgbani. 

BrSTHPLACE  OP  MiBOS  THE  PoET, — A  Hdi- 
culuos  error  is  repealed  in  mnny  common  hooka 
of  reference  with  respect  to  the  living  held  bj 
Hsmu's  father,  who  was  vicar  of  Holy  Trinitr, 
HulL  Chalmera's  Biot/rapAtfri!  Dictionary,  ISlo, 
xzi.  426  (following,  it  seems,  Johnson  and  Chal- 
mers's laiffli'h  Focti.  leiO)  ;  Ilartlay  Coleridge's 
WorthUe  of  York$hire  and  Lartcaifiire,  1832, 
p.  307;  Chambers's  Cuehiptsilia  of  Engii*h  Litera- 
tKn,  1844,  ii.  57  (and  in  the  latest  ed.);  John- 
son s  Liitt  iiftht  Britiek  Poeft,  completed  by  W. 
Hsilitt,  1854,  iii.  31";  and  Allibone'a  Dictionary 
ofEuffluA  Literature,  ii.  (1870),  p.  1238,  all  say 
Uiat  Mason  ^thb  the  sou  of  the  vicar  of  St.  Tiinity- 
haU  (or  St.  Trinitv)  in(the  East  Hiding  oO  Yorlt- 
sbire.  '  W.  C.  B. 

Hull. 

Boots  Memorial  poriii:rlt  is  Breistob 
Chdkch,  CO.  HEREFor.s, — In  tbe  recent  reatora- 
tion  of  Breinton  church  a,  board  was  dlacorered 
on  which,  beneath  tbe  arms  of  Booth,  the  fol- 
lowing inscription  was  painted  ; — 

"  In  memarv  at  v  rertuous  CapCfine  Rudball  Booth, 
J*  eldest  son  of  Capt.  John  Boflth  of  BrslntOD  and  M" 
Katherine  Booth  his  wife,  who  departed  this  life  at  Bar- 
wjck-apoE-Tweol  Id  y  norlli  of  England  y  29  daj-  of 
Oclober,  annoq.  Domi  1683. 

"  He  waa  for  aome  time  (and  to  his  death)  Comaadar- 
in-cheife  of  tbe  Holy  Islanci.  and  had  bis  Company  of 
Foote  theie  with  him*,  runfori'ing  y  garison  in  y  Castle 
within  it,  and  came  from  tbeiiiie  to  Barwic^k  gxn  {t  V'" 
=  19)  miles  of  it  to  rijitt  Ills  Mluw  officers  of  y'  Itef^ment 
be  Kired,  thej  livini^tbere  then  in  gariaon  that  winter, 
fell  sick  there  of  a  violent  fever  and  died  :  he  was  a  single 
penoo  and  a  comly  olEcer  aged  24  yearcs  and  fower 
montbes,  and  Ives  interred  in  Ihi;  great  cl^urcb  at  the 
ainent  enterinj;  into  ihe  chancell. 

'-  He  illwayes  lired  n  godly  life  (and  soe  well  prepared 

The  person  commemorated  in  this  qutunt  in- 
Bcription  belonged  to  a  family  i<ettled  in  the  iiiX' 
teentb  century  at  Brcintuu,  by  their  kinsman 
Bishop  Charles  Booth,  who  died  in  163.5.  A  good 
pedigree  of  the  family  is  given  in  Ilarl.  MS.  2218. 

CnABI.EB  J,  BOBDIBOS. 
Sorton  Canon,  Hereford. 

"  Celtic  "  v.  "  Keltic" — One  or  two  of  your 
learned  correspondents  write  this  name  "Keltic." 
In  the  name  of  all  the  nonpedantic  members  of 
(odety,  that  is,  of  abont  nine  hundred  and  ninety- 
nina  ont  of  every  thonsand,  I  strongly  protest 
againat  Hbt  change.  All  the  world  has  been  ac- 
ewtosMd  to  the  old  spelling,  so  pray  let  CtUt  be 
CWf*  to  the  end  o(  the  chapter,  and  do  not  bnag 


to  one's  thotighta  the  killed  tuna  eukHei  as  ikm 
sole  representatives  of  tbe  Celtic  race. 

T.  S.  M. 

Defbcts  rf  Mabbiaoe  Besistbks.— Will  yoB 
permit  me,  through  your  columns,  to  call  the 
attention  of  the  cleifn',  who  I  believe  ore  grestt 
readers  of"  N.  ft  Q.,  to  what  would  be  a  great 
improvement  in  what  is  generally  tbe  mode  o( 
re^stering  marriages  f 

I  have  some  experience  in  seeing  how  the  entries 
are  made,  and  obeerve  with  mudi  regret  that  in 
most  instances  tbe  ages  of  the  parties  are  stated 
merely  as  "full."  So  far,  pernaps,  tbe  law  is 
eompfied  with ;  but  1  venture  to  point  out  the 
great  advantage  that  would  ensue  from  the  actaal 
ages  being  given.  '  At  present,  as  shown  by  the 
register,  the  age  mav  he  twenty-one  or  seventy- 
one,  or  any  intermediate  or  greater  age. 

There  is  a  tendency  in  families  to  continue 
names  that  have  once  been  used,  which  often  leade  ■ 
to  there  being  two  or  more  of  the  same  name 
alive  at  once.  Now  I  need  not  point  out  to  you 
how  often  the  right  to  property  depends  upon 
proof  of  marriage,  and  how  difficult  it  sometimee 
IS  to  obtain  evidence  of  an  identity  which  a  state- 
ment of  actual  age  in  a.  marriage  register  book 
would  go  far  to  e.itablish.  Any  practical  solicitor 
will  tell  you  how  difficult  it  often  is  in  "  pedigree  " 
cases  to  identify  parties  with  those  named  in 
registers.  The  entries  in  old  books  are  appalling 
in  their  lack  of  information,  In  the  boohs  now 
in  use  there  is  a  column  for  the  "  ages "  of  the 
parties,  and  if  these  were  filled  up  according  to 
the  facts  (as  I  venture  to  submit  was  the  inten- 
tion of  tbe  legislature,  otherwise  the  column  ap- 
pears to  me  useless),  we  should  be  able  to  know 
pretty  well  who  was  the  happy  party;  but  when 
WB  fire  merely  told  that  be  was  of  "  full  age  "  we 
know  not  whether  it  is  A.  Ii.  or  his  grandfathsr. 
I  have  thus  called  attention  to  what  i.4  often  a 
serious  evil  and  tbe  source  of  great  expense,  and 
as  its  remedy  ia  so  easy,  1  trust  to  see  it  adopted. 

Richmond,  Surrey. 

The  late  Mb.  Albebt  Smith  aitd  his  liti- 
KABT  Gaiks.— In  the  Leivtre  Hmir  for  March  fl, 
Mr.  John  Timbs  continues  his  "  Personal  Recol- 
lections," and  sRvs  much  concerning  tbe  late  Mr. 
Albert  Smith,  llut  Mr.  Timbs  is  mistaken  in 
supposing  that  The  FotUetoa  Legacy  appeHred  in 
Bentley's  MUceUany,  for  it  was  publiahed  in  • 
monthly  parts.  Tht  Story  <^  Mont  BUmc  was  not 
" reprinted  from  ^ijcfcicoml forprivate  circulation 
only,"  but  was  publiahed  by  Bogiie,  in  1853,  in 
one  volume,  wiui  illustrations  by  Birket  Foster. 
I  think  that  a  cheaper  reissue  of  the  work  hM 
lately  appeared.  Speaking  of  Tht  A'aturai  Hi^ 
toryof»€0«mt,  Hr.  Timbs  says  that  it "  lay  ligr 
nx  months  incranplete  H  the  printer's ;  but  th» 


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[4«i>S.IX  Afril6,71 


author,  in  addition  to  the  copyright,  was  eventu- 
ally prcBonted  by  the  publisnor  with  a  hundred- 
pound  bank  note."  Prom  a  letter  addressed  to 
mo  by  Albert  Smith,  and  now  before  me,  I  make 
the  foUowinj^  extract : — 

"I  got  10/.  for  The  Cent^  but  when  it  ma<losuch  a  hit, 
Bopfucgavcme  Id/,  moro,  and  oflfercd  me  100/.  for  The 
Fiirt,  which  I,  of  courHC,  took.  Jiut  then  I  had  been 
very  idle  in  writing  it,  and  it  had  been  announced  a  long 
time,  and  so  many  orderR  sent  in,  that  we  knew  it  would 
lie  a  great  go.  f  hn<l  30/.  a  number  for  The  Pottleton 
f^egaci/t  and  12')/.  for  A  Month  at  Constantinople^  and  the 
H.'imo  for  The  Story  of  Mont  Jilanv.  I  know  I  should 
have  done  much  better  with  all  these  things  if  I  had 
kept  my  copyright's"  Jtc. 

Perhaps,  if  Mr.  Timbs  reprints  his  Personal 
Recolleiitiom,  lie  will  like  to  make  a  note  of  the 
f«)rogoing  as  being  among  "  Things  not  generally 
known."  Cutiibekt  J^ede. 

'CiruuciT  Bells.  —  As  Church  Bells  declines 
bell  inscriptions  and  bell  archaiology,  as  being 
more  suited  to  the  pages  of  "  \.  &  Q.,'*  as  an  old 
friend  in  b(ill  matters  I  have  the  pleasure  to  send 
the  legends  on  the  bells  at  Waterl'ord  Cathedral : 
(^n  the  tirst,  or  treble  — 

"  Congrego  (^o<'tum.    Hallelujah, 
J.  K.  fuditl727.*' 

On  the  second  bell — 

"  J.  K.  1727.  Excito  Lcntos,  Hallelujah  I  " 

On  the  third  b<^ll— 

**J.  K.  fudit,  A.i).  1727, 
ConviK'O  Clcrum." 

On  the  fourth  bell — 

**  Simon  Vashoun,  Mayor ;  Beverly  Ussher,  Kdward 
,        Harri!(sun,  Sheriffs 
J.  K.  fudit  1727.    Funera  Ploro.     Hall-dnjah." 

On  the  fifth  bell  — 

"  (Vmploted  by  the  care 
of  Aldormnn  Jtdin  AIo<ir.  Ksq.:  Mr.  I*dt  Callan, 

executor." 

On  the  tenor — 

*•  These  bells  recast  by  onler  of  the 

\XX.  Uov.  riioA.  Milles,  Lord  Iiishop 

t»f  Waterfonl  and  Lismoro,  out  of  a 

Icgaoy  left  bv  Uob.  (libbon,  A.M. 

Sabata  l^ango.  Halleluiah. 

Joshua  Rippling  fudit,  Anno  Domini 

Miu'cxxvii." 

II.  T.  E. 


(£)urrtri^« 

THE  WORD  "PnYSICIANV 


archaeologist  as  to  the  medical  scholaTi  oocnn  at 
p.  0:  — 

"  In  promoting  the  cultivation  of  state  mediciiu^  nd 
its  pro))er  application  to  the  public  service,  we  m,  h 
fact,  building  unon  the  physical  sciences  aa  the  firandi- 
tion  of  our  work,  just  as  medicine  in  general  began  tf 
comprehend  them  during  the  revival  of  leaming  m  tbi 
Middle  Ages.  The  nascent  universities  then  daimed  for 
medicine  a  wider  and  more  philosophical  meaning  than 
that  of  the  healing  art,  and  assigned  it  a  place  onder 
physics.  It  was  long  after  the  fall  of  the  Roman  Empiit 
that  the  higher  order  of  medical  practitioners  beeami 
and  were  first  called  physicians.  When  Pliny  the  Elder 
wrote  of  Empedocles  phytkut,  he  did  not  mean  mei&iH ; 
the  epithet  *  physicus '  then  denoted  a  follower  and  o^ 
server  of  nature.  The  words  PhynUter  in  Germany  and 
phyticuin  in  England  do  not  appear,  I  think,  nntil  the 
thirteenth  century;*  and  they* are  perfectly  HUHm^.  is 

original  meaning  from  the  Greek  ^\aTp6s^  and  the  Latin 
medicua :  nor  do  I  know  that  any  other  nation  has  esr 
ployed  this  designation  of  a  professor  of  physics  to  mfln 
a  healer  of  the  sick.t  The  Kreis-phyticug  of  Geima^,  I 
hardly  need  say,  is  the  type  of  the  state  medicidoDMr 
whom  we  are  endeavouring  to  establish  in  England. 

*'  Here,  hciwevcr,  not  only  did  the  word  phytieiamecn^ 
to  mean  simply  a  therapeutist,  but  a  farther  and  man 
curious  perversion  of  ^vffis  took  place,  when  the  woid 
physic  came  to  be  used  for]  certain  medicaments,  of  whiek 
perhaps  the  compo!*ition,  perhaps  the  adminiatiatioB, 
could  not  always  bo  reconciled  with  any  known  lawirf 
physical  science." 

Now  will  any  of  the  numerous  medical  or  phi- 
lological correspondents  of  ''  N.  &  Q."  oblige  me 
by  indicating  the  earliest  date  when  the  use  of  tkff 
word  phjsician,  as  a  higher  order  of  medical  pno- 
titioner,  was  introduced  and  recogniaed  P 

*<  Physick  {ipvaiicfi^  of  <p^is)  is,  in  general,  theadnfli 
of  all  material  beings,  or  whatever  concerns  the  qr*tBB 
of  this  vi&ible  world ;  though,  in  a  more  limiUd  md  ■»- 
proper  sense^  it  is  applied  to  the  science  of  niedidn%  thi 
art  of  curing  diseases  or  medicines  prepared  for  dtft 
purpo5*> "  (r*V/.  N.  Bailey,  ^i\o\Ayos,  in  yerb.) 

Cicero  {De  Xaf.  D.,  i.  30)  uses  phitiem  in  iti 
primary  sonse :  "  2s  on  pudet  igitur  physicniiif  id 
t'st  8]>t'ciilatonMn  venatoremque  natune,"  etc.  (it- 1 
forn'd  to  by  Dr.  Kumsey,  9uprd)\  and  then  ii 
another  pa.-ssage  from  the  same  authority,  quotad 
in-  Littleton,  which  I  cannot  now  yerifyy  in  "MA 
there  is  an  evident  segregation  made  lietweeii  tiia 
two  terms :  ^'  Ut  non  solum  phyacij  dooent  Tenn 
etiam  jjiediciV^  F.  T.  BL 

Brook  thorpe.  

Early  Armorial  Beariitgs. — Can  anyof  yotf 
correspondents  inform  me  what  aims  weze  W^ 
by,  or  have  been  attributed  to.  Sir  Oflij  de  Car- 
tt^rt'tt,  nWn  ft  tup.  Hen.  1. ;  Sir  John  Haninn  of 


In   the  able  and   exhaustive    address  by  Dr. 
Ramsey  (of  Cheltenham^   as   President   of  the  * 
Vublio  Medicine  .Section  of  the  Briti>h  Medical  . 
Association,  at  its  meeting  in  Newcastle-upon- 
Tyne,  Auffust  1870,  the  following  passage,  inter- 
e^'tingr  alike  to  the  philoh^st,  the  historian,  and 


"  *  C'hanoer's  *  Doctoar  of  Phyaike*  most  have 

graduate  of  ?ome  iiniverHty. 


•t 


aaoaaaftt^ 


•'  *  When  the  late  Pmfeesor  WheweU 
in  hi  original  and  comprebciMiTV  mam 

groat  divi^ion^  of  hnman  enltiira.  moit  ba 

taking  in  the  whole  of  phyaieal  adMn^'— he  pHA>4t 
refenvil  to  the  reviTal  rathar  thn  to  At  MlpB  T 
medicine." 


■»S.1X.  April  G, '72.] 


AOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Cumberland,  Knt.,  teinp.  lien. 'I.;  Sir  WDliam 
Berhky,  Knt.,  cirea  1150 ;  Sir  ItaJph  Cole  of  Staf- 
fordshire, Knt.,  temp.  Kichard  I. ;  Sir  John  West, 
temp.  John,  from  whom  descended  the  noble  fmnily 
of  West  l«rd  Delawar;  Sir  Bnldwin  Vere,  circa 
temp.  Edw.  I.;  Sir  John  Brown  of  Montague, 
Knt.,  circa  temp.  Edw.  I.;  Sir  John  Beaucbamp 
of  Laocasbire,  KnL,  circa  1300;  Sir  John  Hairi- 
ion  of  Cumberland,  Knt,  temp.  Edw.  III.;  Sir 
TbcniBS  Fawn,  temp.  Edw.  JII.,  from  whom  de- 
ecended  the  Lords  of  Westmoreland ;  and  Sir  Jobn 
Allen  of  SulfoUf,  Knt.,  temp.  Kicbard  II.  Any 
references  to  these  personages  will  obUge. 

Frakk  Rede  FiTwke. 

SoQlb  ReasinKtoa  UuMum. 

[Kfplies  to  be  sent  liirecl  to  fhe  Queriil,] 
Sell  Candlestics.  —  In  a  will  made  in  the 

{ear  1552,  a  person  leaves  to  his  son,  among  other 
ougehold  goodf,  a  "  bell  candlesrycke."  Was 
this  a  candlestick  with  a  bell  in  the  lower  part 
that  would  ring  if  mored,  or  naa  it  merely  one 
with  a  widely  flanged  dish  like  a  bell,  to  catch 
the  melted  tallow  ?  A.  0.  V.  P. 

The  Bru  Family.— I  have  not  your  General 
Index  by  me,  so  that  I  cannot  ascertain  what  dis- 
cuasion  cropped  up  a  while  ago  about  the  Bug 
Bible.  Doubtless  it  was  then  remarked  that  the 
Celtic  bwg  was  the  ancestor  of  all  our  modem 
bufta,  and  suggested  that  the  verse  "  thou  shalt 
Dot  be  afraid  of  any  buggea  by  night  "  was  the  pro- 
bable cbristeuer  of  our  fiieud  Scarabitm.  How  far 
axebuffbear,humbui/,boffi/,  audita  derivatives  io^^/e, 
&c,  referable  to  the  same  stock,  and  what  are  the 
dfttes  of  their  birth  P  I  should  not  have  thought 
it  worth  while  to  write  this,  except  for  the  pur- 
poae  of  noting  the  curious  word  bargiagt,  a  York- 
aMre  provincialism  for  a  bogy,  doubtless  one  of 
the  many  north-country  coincidences  with,  High 
German  forms.  It  is  clear  that  the  German  baar- 
gei^  is  the  exact  equivalent  of  our  bvgbear.  Is 
the  latter  a  mere  translation  of  the  former,  or  are 
botb  relics  of  a  common  domestic  superstition  P 
Lewis  Ssboeakt.  - 

"CAT8rp"oR  "Kbichup." — Can  anyone  throw 
light  on  the  name  of  ketchup  or  catsup  P  How 
far  back  can  it  be  traced  in  our  cookery-books,  and 
what  is  the  evidence  of  Webster's  suggestion, 
"  probably  of  Etut  Indian  origin,  because  it  was 
orifcinsUy  a  kind  of  East  Indian  pickle  "  F 

It  is  mentioned  as  a  foreign  condiment  by  Swift, 

**  And  fttT  OQT  home-bred  Briciah  cbeer, 
Botargo,  caimp.  and  cavier.^' 
Neither  the  name,  however,  nor  the  article  itself 
seem  to  be  known  on  the  Continent  except  as  an 
English  import.  It  is  remarkable  that  the  mush- 
room (fiom  Fr.  moiuieron),  of  which  ketchup  is 
made,  nercr  teems  to  have  made  part  of  the  diet 
of  OUT  peasaatry,  and  baa  not,  as  far  aa  I  am 
nnn,  tatj  native  name  in  the  language,  distinct 


from  ioailtlool,  common  to  the  fungus  tribe.    A 
Welsh  name  is  ba^i/d  y  barcud,  kite's  food.       W. 

Lin  our  I"  S.  i.  283,  a  correspondent,  C.  1.  R.,  replying 
toaaniilar  query,  says,  "An  eminent  Saotkrjt  scholar 
iaforma  me  Cbat  'kuck-hup'  u  the  llindo^tuneo  word 
for  tnrtle;  it  ii>  tu  be  round  in  tbe  vociboluy  atUohed 
to  Gilcbriat'a  Eati  India  Guidt  (Svo,  London,  1820). 
Uaj  cot  tbe  name  of  tba  same  taka  its  origin  from  its 
nee  in  preparing;  the  turtle  for  the  table  ?  In  tlie  Cuuiaier 
Boyal,  par  Viart  (Paria.  1840),  p.  75,  it  is  mentioDwl 
among  the  "petiles  Baucea"  aa"ketchop,  ou  Soy«c"[ 
md  the  receipt  fur  making  it  ends  with  "  servez  le  avec 
lo  poiMon." 

Aa  tbe  Dotch  are  Tund  of  tbis  sauce  vrilb  fiah,  perhaps 
some  liebt  upon  the  oriinn  of  tbe  name  mar  be  i^tained 
;rom  HoIland.l 

JoHH  DuNow  OE  DuMOW,  Camos  of  Exbtbe. 
Archdeacon  Cotton,  in  his /"osh'&cfeBiwifiSemica, 
following  Ware  and  Harris,  tells  us  fhat  "Jobn 
Dunow,  DrBumow,LL.D.,acanon  of  Exeter,  waa 


that  "  he  waa  sent  as  ambasaador  to  tbe  court  of 
Rome  by  King  Henry  VIL,  and  died  in  that  city 
in  the  third  year  after  his  consecration,  without 
having  once  visited  bis  see."  Can  any  of  your 
Devonshire  readers,  or  any  one  acquainted  with 
tbe  archives  or  annals  of  Exeter,  give  me  any  in- 
formation regarding  this  dignita^  P  What  was 
his  reel  name  ?  Uoes  such  a  famdy  still  exist  in 
England,  and  if  so,  where  ?  When  was  he  canon 
of  Exeter  ?  or  is  anything  known  of  bis  embassy 
to  the  court  of  Rome  in  the  reign  of  Hem?  Vll.f 
I  have  never  yet  met  any  one,  at  least  in  Ireland, 
who  could  solve  any  one  of  the  aboTe  queries. 

M.M. 

Abb£  Edsswokib. — 

"  Sneyd  [Edgeworthl  has  received  a  very  polite  letter 
fiom  tba  Marquia  de  Bouav,  irbo  ia  now  ambassador  at 
the  court  of  Denmark.  Mrs.  O'Beime  and  the  bishop, 
vho  like  Mods,  de  Bouay  lo  mucb,  and  vho  bavo  iMt' 
heard  from  him  for  Hich  a  length  of  time,  will  be  de- 
lighted 10  bear  of  iiis  emerging  into  light  and  life.  What  . 
is  more  lo  our  purpose  is,  that  he  says  be  can  fumiah 
Sneyd  with  some  notes  for  the  Abbe  EdgBworth'a  Hfti, 
which  he  had  once  intended  to  write  liimB^ :  be  did  put 


Teofbi 


raatU 


Bbbe.''.-From  A  Memoir   of  Maria  Edgeaorik,  1867,  in 
three  voIb.  (not  publiiibed),'L  300. 

Did  Mr.  Sneyd,  son  of  Richard  LoVell  Edge- 
worth,  ever  publish  a  memoir  of  the  chivalrous 
abbii  ?  Nebcio. 

Fkancis  Eoihioh. — Can  any  of  your  numerous 
correspondents  inform  me  of  the  birthplace  of 
Francis  Eginton,  celebrated  as  a  glass  painter, 
who  painted  tbe  window  representing  "  Tne  Con- 
version of  St  Paul,"  in  St.  Paul's  church,  Bir- 
mingham (after  Benjamin  West), — a  window  in 
Salisbury  cathedral  (after  Sir  Joshua  Reynolds' 
picture  of  "  The  Resurrection  "),  and  who  repured 
"The  Last  Judgment"  window  (aftet  SwarU) 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*^8.  EL  AfBiL6.71 


now  in  the  Ante  Capel  of  the  Magdalen  College 
at  Oxford ;  also  other  works  in  stained  glass,  in 
▼arious  parts  of  the  country?  He  also  produced 
*'  polygraphs  "  at  the  ^'  Soho  Manufactory/'  He 
was  Luried  in  Old  ELandsworth  church,  Stafford- 
flhire  (near  Birmingham),  and  died  March  26, 
1805,  aged  sixty-nine  years.  Any  information  in 
zeference  to  his  birthplace  will  oblige  W.  C.  A. 
Binningham. 

^'Essays,  DiynrE   and  Moral/*  by  Bridgis 
Nanfan,  Esq.    London,  1680,  8vo.  ■  Dedicated  to  , 
William,  Bishop  of  St.  Dayid's.     1  shall  feel 
obliged  by  any  information  rclatiye  to  the  author 
of  this  curious  work.  J.  W.> 

[Hie  Naofons  were  a  very  ancient  family  in  Cornwall ; 
but  aubBeauently  settled  at  Birta-Marton,  co.  Worcester. 
The  last  heir  male  of  this  family  who  possessed  the 
estate  was  Bridgis  Nanfan,  £8q.,  the  author  of  the  Euayt, 
who  died  on  June  4, 1704,  aged  eighty-two.  He  married 
Catherine,  daughter  and  co-heir  of  Sir  George  Hastings, 
Knt,  brother  of  Henry  Earl  of  Huntingdon.  She  died 
on  Dec.  8,  1702.  A  pedigree  of  tte  family  is  given  in 
^i^ash's  Worcetterakire,  ed.  1782,  l  86.  Consult  also 
•*N.  A  Q."  2»d  S.  viii.  291,  357.] 

Hesaldic. — Would  some  one  of  your  readers 
idndly  refer  to  Papworth's  Dictionary^  and  in- 
form me  what  states,  orders,  and  families  have 
borne  Ar.  a  cross,  gu.,  simply  and  without  a  dif- 
ference? C.  Chattock.    I 

Castle  Bromwich,  Warwickshire. 

[Adam,  co.  Lincoln.  Banlenill  or  Bardcvillc,  Middle- 
:»ex.  Breyley.  Durward,  Scotland.  Galaad.  Genoa. 
Hartelow,  Northumberland.  Hartlow.  Sire  Michel  de  i 
Harteclawe.  Ilertlaw,  Northumberland.  Lindefourd. 
Lyndeford.  Lyndford.  Musen burgh.  Offield  or  Ofield. 
St  George,  used  by  Charles  I.  impaling  France,  quar- 
tering England  with  Scotland  and  Ireland.  Robert  de 
Veer.  Sr.  John  de  Vere,  Adington.  Vere.— Pap  worth's 
IHetionary  of  Coats  of  ArmSy  p.  604.] 

The  Inflttence  of  Diet  ox  Life. — Is  it  cer- 
tain that  Comaro  the  Venetian,  who,  haying  liyed 
too  fast  till  the  age  of  forty,  became  amazingly 
abstemious,  was  a  centenarian  ?  He  had  a  modem 
imitator,  one  Wood,  a  miller  of  Billericay,  who 
from  gluttony  took  to  asceticism,  and  was  reported 
in  good  health  in  1771,  being  in  his  fifty-8econd 
year.  Did  he  riyal  Comaro  in  longevity  ?  Wood's 
pulsations  were  abo'it  forty-fiye  a  minute.  Does 
not  this  slowness  show  that  he  was  in  a  torpid 
atate,  living  rather  like  a  tortoise  than  a  man  P 

Makrocheib. 

Morteattlx.— -I  read  that  King  Edward  IV.  of 
England  had  thel^ord  of  Gruithuyso  brought  to  the 
queen's  own  withdravnng-room,  when  they  played 
mt  *'  Morteaulx."    What  sort  of  game  was  that  ? 

P.  A.L. 

[A  game  resembling  bowls.] 

Pierre  Ogier. — I  have  a  saucernshaped  dish 
in  pottery  signed  by  Pierre  Ogier,  dated  1749, 
flubject  St  Peter.  What  pottery  is  this  P  Are 
more  pieces  known  and  signed  by  the  same  P 


The  name  is  not  to  be  found  in  G^zaease'a  new 
edition  of  Ouide  de  F  Amateur,  &c.        H.  A.  W. 

-'<  The  Present  State  of  Grsa.t  BBnanr."— 
I  have  the  volume  for  1711  of  T%e  Present  Stale  tf 
Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  the  compiler  for  wlua 
is  Guy  Miege.  It  appears  from  tne  preftoe  that 
there  were  six  annual  impressions  of  this  oomnOa*  . 
tion  previous  to  that  I  have  mentioned|  inaA 
however  did  not  contain  more  than  the  state  of 
England,  that  for  1711  containing  for  tlie  finfc 
time  Scotland  and  Ireland.  I  have  luio  the  rchaat 
for  1741  of  The  Present  State  of  Great  Britam,  bj 
John  Chamberlayne,  Esq. ;  and  also  that  for  1765 
by  him.  These  two  were  picked  up  by  me  at 
book-stalls  in  Edinburgh,  wnere  editiona  of  other 
years  may  accidentally  be  found.  They  caniua 
nothing  regarding  Ireland.  It  appears,  from  irhat 
is  said  in  their  title-pages,  that  Scotland  had  not 
at  first  been  included  in  the  publication. 

These  States  appear  to  me  to  be  very  foil  nd 
accurate,  and  I  cannot  agree  with  a  cozrespondfliit 
in  ;'  N.  &  Q."  1'^  S.  xi.  408,  who  compluna  of 
their  being  defective.  They  may  still  be  usefbl 
in  cases  of  genealogy  and  others;  and  pi^y^fr*  lbs 
editor,  or  some  of  your  correspondents^  may  Inov 
how  long  Miege*s  States  continued  to  bepuhlishsd. 
How  long  also  did  Chambedayne'Sy  and  who  «M 
Chamberlayne  himself  P  He  calk  himself  Mr. 
John  Chamberlayne.  0. 

Edinburgh. 


[Guy  Mien's  work  was  first  entitled  7%c  Nem 
of  Englatul  under  our  Sovereign  QNcm  ^mms,  1709-1717. 
In  1711  it  was  changed  to  The  FrmetU  5tate  of  Gmd 
Britain  and  Ireland.  The  eleventh  edition,  MitBd  |f 
Mr.  Bolton,  was  published  in  1748.  Edward  G&nib^ 
layne  edited  a  similar  work  fh>m  1666  to  1708»  wUA 
was  continned  by  his  son  John,  who  diad  in  1738 1  Hi 
name,  however,  was  retained  on  the  title-paga  anlfl  Ai 
vear  1755.  For  some  account  of  the  fathw  and  ioafli 
"  N.  &  Q."  2"d  S.  y.  456 ;  ix.  486,  and  Kippi8*8  BUsngH^ 
Britaanica,  iii.  422.  J 

Quotations  wanted.— What  eminent  lawyv 
compared  the  law  to  a  '^  crooked  unlucky  jmi^f " 

AxiOBinT. 


"  Little  streams  in  li^ht  and  shadow. 
Flowing  throujfh  the  verdant  meadow." 


aB. 


Genius,  ^^  a  capacity  for  taking  trouble.'*  Who 
definition  is  this  P  TwiaSB» 

[A  similar  deGnition  occurs  in  Dr.  Johniaal^Cjffcjf 
Cowley :  **  The  trae  genins  is  a  mfaid  of  loiga  gyf* 
powers,  accidentally  determined  to  soma  parfailar  dbi^ 

tion.' 'J 


William  Secoll,  1657. — Dozing 
tion  at  the  church  of  South  Lughy  ■koot  ii|tf 
miles  from  Oxford,  a  hrasi  to  the  ui—aif  * 
<'  William  SecoU,  kte  of  thii  puiian  of  Mtn 
who  died  17  Aprylle,  1667/'  has  fcaen  ilkjiJili^ 
There  are  no  Teoords  of  anT  haaS^fi  " 
haying  oyer  resided  in 


4"8.IX.  ApRii,6,7S.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


28  L 


name  is  common  (in  Tuious  diagitiBed  forms) 
amongst  the  poor  in  the  neighbouring  town  of 
Witney.  Tbere  is,  I  l>eliBve,  a  Saacoal  Lane  in 
Lcmdon,  and  it  ia  possible  that  a  Londtni  merchant 
of  tliat  name  ma;  have  lived  at  South  Leigh  and 
have  died  there.  The  brase  repreaents  a  middle- 
aged  lawman  in  a  ^wn  trimmed  with  fur  reaching 
to  the  ankles.  If  any  of  your  correspondents  can 
aend  me  any  information  as  to  this  &mily  I  shall 
be  much  obliged.  J.  P.  Earwakkb. 

■     Merton  College,  Oitford. 

Nassau  Semiob's  "  Bioqeaphicae  Sketches." 

"  When  we  see  the  House  of  Lords  led,  us  it  flcarcdy 
flverwas  led  before,  hj-  ope  whose  Dobilily  iauoldiatbit 
<)f  the  De  Verra,  wa  are  alnick  by  the  combination  of 

Tery  nre."  —  Xasuu  ^diot^s  Biotfraphical  Skeicher, 
p.  182,  and  EdiHbmyh  Review,  Jan.  Itiat. 

Who  is  the  noblainaii  alluded  to  P        J.  R,  B. 

Sir  Thomas  Stanley  of  Grasgbqormas. — 
Washeacadet  of  the  house  of  Derby  P  Hisdaugb' 

tet  and  heir,  Sarah  Stanley,  married Monck, 

Esq.,  and  from  that  marria^  the  present  Lord 
Monck  is  descended.     I  wish  to  discover  the 
Dsme  and  parentage  of  Miss  Stanley's  mother  p 
Y.  S.  M. 

SrnBDivANT. — What  is  the  derivation  of  the 
family  UHme  of  Sturdivaut?  I  have  met  with  it 
in  England  as  early  as  the  middle  of  the  sixteenth 
century.  Cob^hjb. 

■Wbstok-super-Marb.  —  Why  is  it  that  this 
town  is  always  named  as  if  Mare  was  one  pliable 
instead  of  ttvo  P  It  ariies,  I  suppose,  from  the  cor- 
rupt pronunciation  of  Latin  which  prevaile  in 
England,  or  ei^  it  may  have  originated  in  the 
Fianeh  m^.  I  very  well  remember  falling  into 
the  correct  error  of  pronouncing  the  name  Ma^re, 
mt  I  passed  up  the  Bristol  Channel  from  Water- 
fold  many  years  ago.  Y.  S.  M. 


SltflUt. 

ARilS  OF  rKI.VCE  RUPEET. 
(4'^  S.  is.  38, 12a) 

They  are  distinctly  to  be  seen  on  a  letter  now 
bafiire  me,  dated  Wliiteball,  August  S8,  1672, 
mitteQ  by  Toby  Holder,  secretary  to  Bujiert,  and 
with  the  prince's  hold  sign  manual.  It  is  ad- 
dreewd  to  "Sir  Thomas  Chichley,  Enight,  Master 
G*"  of  His  M"  Ordinance,"  and  relateB  to  the 
■peedj  expedition  of  two  sloops  of  war,  the  Deed 
And  uie  Tulip,  and  a  brigantine. 

Allow  me  to  sebd  you  a  copy  of  thia  seaL  The 
upper  part,  which  ia  ton  r>^  evidently  bore  the 
dnoal  mtnni.  UndemBBth  the  order  of  the  Garter 
ad  motto  na  Om  inilula  B.  F.  P.  D.  A  .  bt  .  C  . 
<Bi9nt,ftiaaa  Palatine,  Duka  Rhine  and  Gum- 


of  the  Garter  in  1843,  was,  on  Januarr  22,  1644, 
created  by  his  uncle,  Charles  1.,  Earl  of  Holdemeas 
and  Dulre  of  Cumberland.  His  elder  brother, 
Charles  Lodowig,  was  knighted  of  the  Garter  in 
1635  or  36.  Did  the  other  brother,  Maurice,  like- 
wise receive  the  order  ?  Nepheitb  says,  "  Eupert 
was  a  t/,ird  son  " ;  hut  I  find  in  a  small  volume 
pnntsi  in  London  for  Thomas  Malthus  (1083), 
Hietoric'il  Memairea  of  the  Life  and  Death  of  that 
IFiie  atid  ealiant  JVtnce  Rupert,  that  he  was  the 
second  son  of  Predaric,  Prince  Elector  Palatine  of 
the  Rhine,  who,  later,  7as  crowned  at  Prague 
King  of  Bohemia.  His  sons  hj  the  Princeea 
Elizabeth,  eldest  daughter  of  King  James  I.  and 
wster  of  King  Charlea  I.,were:  1.  Charles  Lodo- 
wig (or  Ludwig),  bom  Dec  20, 1617 ;  2.  Eupert, 
or  Robert,  horn  Dec.  17,  1618;  3,  Maurice,  who 
died  on  the  seas. 

On  Prince  Rupert's  seal  now  before  me,  as 
Nephrite  justly  eurmisea,  there  is  no  Eeichmpfel, 
which  I  find  on  a  thaler  of  the  year  1567,  repre- 
senting on  the  obvetae  Duke  Frederic  in  armour, 
full-face,  bare-headed,  short  hair  and  long;  beard, 
holding  a  sword  in  one  hand  and  the  globe,  sur- 
mounted by  a  croas,  in  the  other,  with  fsidk  . 
D .  8 .  CO  .  PA  .  RHK  .  8  .  B  .  1,  PBiN  .  {Prince  of  tho 
Sacred  Roman  Empire)  el  .  ba  .  dvx  .  (Elector, 
]>uke  of  Bavaria.)  On  the  reverse  are  three 
shields  surmounted  by  a  helmet,  crested  by  a  lion 
sitting  (but  not  between  two  home).  On  the  first 
escutcheon  sable,  a  lion  erect  or,  crowned  gule^ 
turned  to  the  left,  inwards  (whereas,  as  Nepbbits 
rightly  observes,  on  the  Bavarian  coins  of  the 
present  day,  the  lions  are  to  the  riffht).  The 
second  escutcheon,  in  the  centre,  has  tne  lieiclis- 
apfelj  and  the  third,  paly,  bendy,  azure  and 
argent,  with  herb  hack  bbisbm  willfn.   1567. 

In  Thsne'a  BrUidi  GaUery  of  Hiitorical  Por- 
trait, irith  Aidograph  and  Seabi,  is  given,  as  the 
Krtrait  of  Rupert,  one  of  the  two  beautiful  heads, 
Van  Dyck  (_on  the  same  canvas)  in  the  Louvre 
(Jallery,  in  Pans.  It  is  not,  however,  the  one  in 
full  face,  with  his  hand  holding  the  order  of 
St.  George,  which  is  generally  supposed  to  be 
Rupert.  Both  these  heads,  of  noble  appeeisnce, 
have  a  much  more  gentle  and  mild  eipr«saion 
than  might  be  supposed  on  the  faces  of  two  sudi 
young  Hotspurs  as  Rupert  and  Maurice.  Not 
does  it  correspond  with  the  description  of  Prince 
Rupert  in  Anthony  Hamilton's  jVemoirMdeOnnn- 

"11  Aoil  brave  eC  vsiltant  jiuqu'k  U  t^m^rit^.  Son 
esprit  ^toit  aujet  b  quelquea  travsrs,  dont  U  eflc  it6  bien 
fadrf  de  M  corriger.  11  avoit  le  g*nie  fieond  en  exp^ 
rfenea  de  mitli^maliqnea  et  qoelqne  talent  pour  U  chymle. 
Pali  jutqa'i  I'eze^  qoand  I'oocuiDn  ne  k  dBmandnit  paa, 
fleret  n€niebraUl  quaed  il  AoiL  qoeitioa  de  a'bomuiltei. 
n  eloit  giand  «t  n'avoit  qoe  trt^  mauvaia  air.  Son  viiaga 
tfloit  MC  ct  dar.  Ion  mame  qall  voaloit  le  nuUmcir )  nuM 
dana  mm  tnanvaiKS  fanmeon,  c'Hait  me  tirn  ^ynMoma 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*S.I 


Much  more  like  that  is  a  small  engraved  por- 
trait of  him  I  possesd,  below  which  is  written, 
"The  most  illustrious  Prince  Rupert,  Elector 
Palatine  of  the  Khine  &c/'  The  portrait  of  hiin 
in  Lodge,  from  Earl  Craven's  collection,  is  far 
more  pleasing.  P.  A.  L. 

SOAKSPEARE :   CONTEMPORARY  CRITICISM. 

(4'^S.  ix.  237.) 

Ben  Jonson's  criticism  of  Shakspeare  is  wf.-ll 
known,  but  it  is  the  reverse  of  unfavourable.  Its 
value  may  excuse  its  length: — 

**  I  remember  the  players  have  often  mentioned  it  as 
an  honour  to  Shakspeare,  that  in  bis  writing— whatsoever 
he  penned—be  never  blotted  out  a  line.  My  answer  hath 
been,  would  he  had  blotted  out  a  thousand !  which  they 
thought  a  malevolent  speech.  I  had  not  told  posterity 
thi^  but  for  their  ignorance  who  choose  that  circum- 
stance to  commend  their  friend  by  wherein  he  roost 
faulted  ;  and  to  justify  mine  own  candour,  fur  I  loved 
the  man,  and  I  honour  his  memory  on  this  pide  idolatry 
as  much  as  any.  He  was  indeed  honest,  and  of  an  open 
and  free  nature;  had  an  excellent  phantasy,  brave  no- 
tions, and  gentle  expressions,  wherein  he  flowed  with  that 
facility,  that  sometimes  it  was  necessary  he  should  be 
Btopped,  iufflaminandus  erat,  as  Augustus  !>aid  of  Haterius. 
His  wit  was  in  his  own  power  :  would  the  rule  of  it  had 
been  so  too !  Many  times  he  fell  into  those  things  could  not 
escape  laughter,  as  when  he  said,  in  the  person  of  Caesar, 
one  speaking  to  him :  *  Caesar,  thou  dost  me  wrong,'  he 
replicMl:  'Cassar  did  never  wrong  but  with  just  cau^,* 
and  such  like,  which  were  ridiculous.  But  he  redeemed 
bis  vices  with  his  virtues.'' 

Here  Ben  ia  simply  riding  his  hobby  as  a  gram- 
marian, and  casts  .no  doit  of  blame  of  any  other 
kind.  Moreover  he  .bears  witness  to  abundant 
contemporary  criticism  of  the  most  favourable 
kind.  Shakspeare  was  esteemed  at  his  due  value 
in  his  own  days ;  and  it  ]«  not  by  comparing  him 
with  our  corrupt  dramatists  that  any  Once  a  Week 
reviewer  will  make  us  discount  the  twentieth  cen- 
tury fame  of  Foul  Play  and  its  gender. 

Lewis  Sebjea^^t. 


Mb.  Eenxedt  makes  more  astounding  the 
astoimding  declaration  of  Once  a  Week,  Any 
notice  of  the  life  of  Shakespeare  prefixed  to  any 
late  edition  of  his  works -will  give  ll.  A.  K.  infor- 
mation on  this  point  of  contemporary  criticism. 
However,  space  may  perhaps  be  found  here  for  a 
few  references. 

The  passage  in  Greene's  Groatsicorth  of  Witt 
(1592),  quoted  by  II.  A.  K.,  must  be  supple- 
mented by  an  apology  for  the  same  in  Chettle  s 
preface  to  hie  Kind-Harts  Drearne  (1592),  where 
he  speaks  of  S.'s  "  facetious  grace  in  writting,  that 
aprooues  his  art'*  (Percy  Soc.  reprint,  p.  iv.) 
^Vith  these  passages  may  be  connected  another 
in  the  third  letter  of  Gabriel  Harvey's  Foure  Let- 
ters andCertaine  Sonnets  (1592),  where  it  has  been 
presumed  S.  is  addressed.    Moreover,  a  few  years  I 


backward,  in  Greene's  Memipkon  i  Ib^t 
Anutomie  of  Absurditie  (1589),  there 
which  have  been  applied  to  S.    In  all 
sa<re.i,  however  (H.  A.  E.'s  qaota&oB 
S.*8  name  is  not  mentioned. 

1591.  Spenser's  Teares  oftkeMuM*: 
the  '•  pleasant  Willy  "  of  the  TkaUa  u  & 
a  matter  of  debate. 

1594.   Willolne  kis^ Aviso :  S.  is 


name. 

1594.  Drayton's  Matilda:   S.  is  pzoUhly 

ferred  to. 


ab 


1595.  Spenser's  Colin  Clout4  Come  Ho 
The  ^'  Action  "  here  is  generally  idoitified  vitt  & 

1590.  Lodge's  Wits  Miserie':  J2anMisqMlri. 

1598.  Francis  Mere's  Pakdis  Tomiti:  Bam 
is  by  far  the  f  idlest  contemporanr  critieiaB  of  & 
It  is  very  eulogistic.  H.  A.  A.  inll  find  it  qnolai 
in  most  books  of  Shakespeaiiin  literatnze. 

1598.  Richard  Bamneld's  Bncmmoti  ^Ifl^f 
Pecunia :  S.  is  highly  praised. 

1599.  Weever's    Epigrammts:    An 
sonnet,  '*  Ad  Gulielmum  Shakespeare.'' 

1003.  Chettle's  EngUmdes  Momtrng 
S.  u   unmistakeably  addressed   as  *'thtt  alra^ 
tongued  Melicert." 

1003.  In  a  Bal&d  on  the  death  of  Q.  TTfiiiklH 
S.  is  saluted  as  '<  brave  Shakespeare "  (GoHM 
Shakespeare,  I.  czciv.  note,  ed.  1644.) 

100^3.  Davis  (of  Hereford)'s  Jfic 
presumably  referred  to. 

1005  (circa).  Eatseis  Ghost:   S.  is 
maligned. 

1000.  The  Eetttm  from  iWiMUMt ; 
is  much  older  than  the  date  of  its 
(1000).  In  it  S.  is  extolled  in  two 
Sc.  2,  and  Act  IV.  So.  3  (Hawl 
Drama,  vol.  iii.) 

1011.  Davis  (of  Herefoid)*8  &Miye  rf  Mjff 
S.  is  addressed  as  an  actor  rather  tlian  aa  a  pHb 

1012.  Thomas  UBjwootL'a  Apoiogy /or  Mmr 
S.  is  referred  to  in  a  complimentaiy  n  ''" 
address  at  the  end  of  this  treatise,  (i 
Soc.  reprint) 

1012.  Webster  8  WMe  DevU:  In  a 
prefixed  we  have  ''  the  light  happy  and 
industry  of  m.  Shakespeare,"  &€. 

1014.  Thomas  Freeman\s  EMo  smd  m  f^ 
Caste:  The  ninetv-second  epigram  la  adJiMM* 
**  To  Master  Wm.  "Shakspere.** 

1014.  The  Ghost  o/ESdkard  III.  hj  &&:  & 
(undoubtedly)  is  praised  in  two  stantai*  (SUt* 
speare  Soc.  reprint,  p.  27.^ 

I  do  not  pretend  that  tne  above  lilt  ■  ift  f&f 
complete  one,  but  it  afibrds  a  tfilenUa 
contemporary  criticism  on  Shakaapena. 

Much  might  be  added  of  the  imtiaH' 
S.  and  Jonson,  but  let  it  auffin  to 
logue  to  Every  Mam  m  kig  ~ 
end  of  the  address  ''To  the 


TUi]fer 


4«*  S.  IX.  April  6,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


283 


Sejanus,  which  latter  presumably  points  to  S.  The 
noble  discriminating  praise  of  him  in  the  Din- 
eoveries  (''  De  Shak^peare  nostrat  ** )  is  also  a  most 
notable  criticism.  A  pamphlet,  Shakspere  and 
JoMon :  Dramatic  versus  Wit'  Combats  (J.  Rus- 
sell Smith,  1864)  may  be  profitably  studied  with 
xegard  to  the  relations  between  S.  and  his  brother 
diumatLsts. 

The  commendatory  verses  prefixed  to  the  First 
Folio  (1023)  are  still  cciitemporary  criticism,  and 
must  be  taken  into  account  with  other  matter  of 
like  kind  written  in  the  generation  that  over- 
lapped S.'s  death. 

u  imitation  have  any  betiring  on  the  case,  there 
18  evidence  enough  in  Webster,  Massinger,  Hey- 
wood,  and  the  rest,  of  the  contemporary  estimate. 
ci  Shakespeare.  John  Abdis,  M.A. 

RiutiiigtoD,  Littlehaznpton,  Sussex. 


LORD-LIEUTEXANT. 
(4">  S.  ix.  220,  249.) 

LoBB  Lyttelton  did  not  mention  any  rule 
according  to  which  '^  Lords-Lieutenants "  could 
be  "s^ctly  correct."  The  analogy  of  English 
grammar  is  against  it.  I  submit  that  there  can 
be  only  one  plural  in  any  noun-phiase  consisting 
of  a  substantive  enlarged  either  by  apposition  or 
by  attribution,  and  that  the  sign  of  this  plural 
belongs  to  the  principal  substantive;  also,  that 
when  two  substantives  are  in  *'  customary  "  appo- 
sition (like  Lord  J  ustice),  they  must  be  regarded 
as  one  compound  word,  and  the  plural  suffix  must 
go  with  the  last.  Thus  man-servants  and  woman- 
servants,  Lord  Mayors  and  Lord  Justices,  are  un- 
doubtedly correct.  As  to  words  like  Lord  Lieu- 
tenant, all  we  have  to  do  is  to  determine  whether 
Lieutenant  is  to  be  regarded  as  an  adjective  or  a 
Bubstantive.  If  the  former,  the  proper  plural 
would  be  Lords  Lieutenant ;  for  I  do  not  see  the 
force  of  comparing  '^  Ics  hommes  marchans  "  on  a 
point  of  English  grammar.  K  the  latter,  the 
plural  is  Lord  Lieutenants,  which  I  believe  to  be 
the  correct  form.  But  we  must  not  forget  that 
legal^  parliamentary,  and  ofiicial  language  stereo- 
tj^es  many  forms  which  are  either  false  or  foreign. 
The  very  discussion  in  this  case  shows  that  the 
question  is  still  an  open  one ;  and  it  is,  therefore, 
our  clear  duty  to  appeal  strictly  to  the  rules  of 
English  grammar.  Lewis  Sebgeani. 

Of  course,  if  this  title  be  treated  strictly  as  one 
compound  word,  its  plural  can  only  be  J^rd- 
Lieutenant^ :  however,  supposing  it  to  consist  of 
two  distinct  words,  not  made  one  by  composition, 
the  same  plural,  Lord  Lieutenants,  is  still  the 
only  correct  form;  for  in  this  case  Lord  is  an 
epithet  of  the  substantive  Lieutenant,  in  order  to 
^f<jnmiial>  tho  chlef  locum  tenena  of  the  sovereign 
framnis  deputies,  and  not  at  all  because  tms 


officer  must  be  a  peer.  In  fact,  at  the  present 
time,  there  are  more  than  twenty  counties  in  the 
United  Kingdom  in  which  the  office  is  held  by  a 
commoner.  And  it  is  for  the  same  reason* — that 
Lord  is  only  an  epithet  or  attribute — that  we  say 
Lord  Mayors,  as  C.  J.  observes.  By  the  same  rule 
we  ought  to  say  Lord  Justices,  instead  of  Lords 
Justices,  as  we  have  long  been  used  to  speak  of 
the  two  Lord  Chief  Justices  of  their  respective 
courts  at  Westminster.  Apply  it  to  similar  phrases 
and  its  truth  is  evident :  who  would  speak  of  two 
Masters  Gunners,  or  three  Deputies  Quarter  Mas- 
ters? 

However,  even  supposing  Lord  to  be  the  sub- 
stantive and  Lieutenant  the  adjective,  we  should 
still  use  the  same  plural :  for  who  but  a  pedant 
does  not  prefer  Princess  Royals  and  Court  Mar- 
tials  to  Princesses  Koyal  and  Courts  MartiaL  As 
for  the  French  form  Lords  Lieutenants,  Lieutenant, 
whether  adjective  or  substantive,  has  become  so 
thoroughly  English,  that  the  foreign  s  is  in- 
tolerable. J.  H.  I.  Oaklet. 

Manchester. 


Hallam  {Constitutional  History  of  England) 
speaks  of  ''Lords  Lieutenant'':  see  also  Whar- 
ton's Late  Lexicon  (p.  653),  ''  Lords  Lieutenant 
of  Counties."  G.  M.  T. 


"Neoavit  se  vrvuM  sub  terram  rniBUM" 
(4***  S.  viii.  628.) — It  was  Nero  who  (according  to 
Suetonius,  Vita  Neronis,  c.  48)  declined  the  ad- 
vice of  his  freedman  to  escape  from  assasdns  by 
hiding  in  a  sand  pit — ''loi  hortante  eodem 
Phaonte,  ut  interim  in  specum  aren»  concederet, 
negavit  se  vivum  sub  terram  iturum.'' 

Unsda. 

Philadelphia. 

«  The  Squibb's  Pew  "  (4'*'  S.  ix.  221.)— The 
poem  respecting  which  Mb.  Spoffobth  makes 
mquiry  is  bv  Jane  Taylor,  and  will,  if  I  mistake 
not,  be  found  in  The  Contributions  of  Q,  Q,f  vol.  L 
It  will  also  be  found  in  The  Laurel^  p.  106— an 
elegant  volume,  which,  together  with  its  pendant. 
The  Lyre  (2  vols.  8vo,  1841,  Tilt  &  Bogue),  was 
edited  and  printed  by  my  friend  the  late  Alfred 
Allen  of  this  town,  and  contains  an  extensive  yet 
judicious  selection  of  the  most  popular  fugitive 
poetry  of  the  nineteenth  century. 

William  Bates. 

Birmingham. 

This  poem  is  in  a  little  book  entitled  Essays  in 
Ehyme  by  Jane  Taylor.  G.  W.  ToMLUfSON. 

Hudderstield. 

Song  :  "Fie,  gae  kub  heb"  (4«*'  S.  ix.  240.)— 
The  EnglLsh  song  to  this  tune,  for  which  W.  F. 
inquires,  may  be  found  in  The  Hive  (vol.  ii.  3rd 

*  The  key  to  the  whole  <v^««tto<DL  Sa  >3b&3^  TJ^^d^a^Vs^ 
English  the  «A^«cti'V«  taSkxa  'U^  '\^^KCiSL  voS&x. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[iti' S.  IX.  Apbil  6,  "Tl 


edit,  1727,  p.  62) ;  and  both  Scotch  and  English 
Teraions  are  printed  with  the  tune  in  AVatts's 
Musical  Miscellany f  vol.  v.  The  English  are  in 
three  stanzas  of  eight  lines,  beginning :  — 

"  How  can  they  taste  of  jo^s  or  grief, 

Who  beauty *8  power  did  never  prove  ? 
Love's  all  our  torment,  our  relief ; 

Our  fate  depends  alone  on  love. 
Were  1  in  heavy  chains  oonfin'd, 

NeiDra*s  smiley  would  ease  that  state ; 
Nor  wealth  nor  pow*r  could  bless  my  mind. 

Curs*d  bv  her  absence  or  her  hate." 

I  have  not'looked  back  for  the  author  of  these 
lines,  nor  for  any  earlier  copy. 

There  seems  no  sufficient  ground  for  doubting 
"Fye,  pae  rub  her*'  being  Allan  llamsay's,  be- 
cause fifty  years  ^tor  Bums  heard  some  one  repeat 
his  first  u>ur  lines  to  eke  out  to  the  tune.  A  lust 
ground  would  be,  that  some  one  should  produce 
the  first  lines  before  llamsay's  publication,  or 
even  the  tune  called  by  the  name  of  his  song. 
Ramsay  claims  it  as  his  own,  and  does  not  include 
it  among  "  Old  Songs  with  Additions,*'  for  which 
he  had  a  special  mark  in  his  Tea-  TMe  Miscellany. 

Wm.  Ghappell. 

BuBiALS  IN  Gardens  (4''*  S.  viii.  passim ;  iz. 
98)  were  not  unfrequent  in  East  Yorkshire  during 
the  last  century ;  but  they  were,  I  believe,  entirely  | 
confined  to  members  of  the  Society  of  Friends.  ; 
It  is  quite  the  exception  to  find,  in  a  conveyance  | 
of  property  by  a  Quaker,  a  reservation  of  a  right 
of  bunal  of  the  dead  of  the  family ;  but  the  bones 
of  the  ancestors  arc  sold  with  the  estate,  and  pass 
with  the  grant  of  the  **  ground  and  soil "  thereof. 

E.  S.  W. 

"AL\Rr  IS  Sonne"*  (4'»»  S.  ix.  220.)— The  date 
of  the  brass  in  the  south  aisle  of  Ilornsey  church 
is  stated  bv  Haines,  in  his  List  of  Monumental 
Brasses,  to  he  about  1530 ;  but  there  is,  I  believe, 
no  date  on  the  monument  itself.  John  Skevington 
is  represented  as  a  small  shrouded  figure,  appar- 
entlv  a  child.  Brasses  of  children  in  shrouds  arc 
found  elsewhere.  There  is  one  in  Southfleot 
church,  Kent,  about  1520;  but  it  has  unfortun- 
ately been  decapitated.  £.  U.  W.  Dunkin. 

Kidbruoke  Park  Road,  S.E. 

Etans  of  Ey-anstone  (4"'  S.  ix.  219.)— This 
family  was  located  at  Enstone,  Oxon.  Several 
particulars  are  stated  in  E.  Marshall's  Account  of 
Church  Enstone,  Parker,  Oxford,  1803.  In  the 
epitaph  on  R.  Evans  (p.  04,  1.  10),  for  "hunc" 
cor.  tunc.  See  also  Jordan*8  Parochial  History  of 
Enstone,  p.  873,  Oxford,  1857. 

Ed.  Marshall. 

Staith  or  Staithe  (4''»  S.  viii.  passim ;  ix.  23, 
100.) — ^There  have  been  given  many  explanations 
of  this  word.  To  my  mind  it  is  undoubtedly  the 
eame  as  the  Islandic  word  std15f  genit.  stoiivar,  or 
sta^ar,  which  in  the  west  of  Iceland  is  used  for  a 


station  for  boats.    It  ia  derived  from  the 
standa,  to  stand ;  pret  <M6,  sup.  «te5d. 

J6ir  A.  HjAiaiifr. 

Advocates'  Library,  Edinburgh. 

Throwing  Potsherds  on  Doors  (4**  S.  vl 
135.) — There  is  in  Denmark  a  custom  andogiNi 
to  the  Dorsetshire  custom  mentioned  in  ''  N.  ft  Q.* 
In  the  country  villages  the  people  collect  aU  ttar 
broken  pots  and  jars  on  New-jear*s  Eve  and  fliiov 
them  on  the  doors  of  their  neighbouDSi  BBJi^ff  ^ 
they  are  breaking  with  -the  old  year.  Tkis  gsei 
on  throughout  the  ni^t,  and  the  greater  thenon 
the  better.  J6s  A.  HjALTAlfr. 

Advocates'  Library,  Edinburgh. 

Burial  in  Woollen  (4*»»  S.  ix.  2ia)— He 
object  of  this  law  was  to  encourage  the  wDolht 
trade  in  England.  It  is  founded  upon  an  Aist  d 
Parliament  passed  in  the  reign  of  Charlei  H. 
(30  Car.  IL  stat  1,  cap.  3,  sect  3),  in  which  itii 
provided  that  — 

"  Xo  corpse  shall  be  buried  in  anything  other  than  vfcit 
is  made  of  sheep's  wool  only,  or  be  put  into  amr  oifii 
lined  or  faced  with  anything  made  of  any  matenikM 
sheep's  wool,  on  pain  of  5/.*' 

By  the  same  Act  it  is  provided  that— 

*^  Persons  in  holy  orders,  or  their  sabstitates^  duIlkiV 
a  register  of  all  persons  buried  in  their  preeiafil%  tf  ■ 
such  common  burial  places  as  theur  parishfonenmtMl'  ' 
monlv  buried." 

I  Within  eight  days  after  the  interment  an 
under  the  hands  and  seals  of  two  witnesses^ 

!  be  sworn  before  the  clergyman,  that  the 
was  not  buried  contrary  to  the  Act  Jn  dehnkrf 
such  ailldavit,  the  goods  of  the  deceased  poiV 
were  forfeit  to  the  crown.  Long  before  tiiis  tia% 
in  the  latter  part  of  the  reign  of  Queen  EliaibA 
very  stringent  measures  were  taken  for  pzeveBtaf 
the  exportation  of  wool.  The  penalty  of  i  a»" 
viction  was  the  loss  of  the  ri^t  nand. 

](y  the  Act  above-mentioned  all  penoniin* 
prohibited  from  carrying  wool  withm  five  v3b 
of  the  sea-coast.  I  do  not  know  the  exact  dits' 
the  repeal  of  the  law,  but  I  believe  it  waa  ia4i 
latter  naif  of  the  eighteenth  centniy. 

«  Edmitvd  TeW|  ill 

Your  querist  IIardric  Morphtit  will  findtti 
Act  for  Burial  in  Woollen  (30  Gar.  IL  en.  9 
repealed  by  54  Geo.  III.  cap.  108,  •'.  e.  in  iflU^ 
The  object  of  the  old  law  is  given  in  the  tittitf 
the  former  Act,  viz.:  '^the  lessening  tibe  is* 
portation  of  linncn  .  .  .  and  the  encoungeBMift* 
the  woollen .  and  paper  manufisctuseB  of  the  ttf 
dom."  The  subject  has  been  dispniwid  u  f' 
First  Series,  where  see  specially  yoL  ▼•  Jt^^^^ 

Shinfidd  Grove,  near  Reading. 

ORiem  OF  TioHBOBinB  (^  B.  iz.  Hl^  M^i 
I  believe  that  Lord  Lr    noMr^ 
correct     The  ancient        idamf  -«ft 


1 


.    '..    u* 


4«i  S.  IX.  Apbil  6,  '72.1 


NOTES  AND  QUEKIES. 


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which  the  present  house  was  erected,  was  distant 
only  a  few  yards  from  that  branch  of  the  river 
lichen  which  rises  in  Cheriton  parish  and  flows 
trough  Tichborne  Park.  See  Duthy's  Sketches  of 
Hampshire  for  the  engraving  of  the  old  house, 
taken  from  Tilburg's  picture  of  "  The  Dole."  As 
Dd-Broham  is  now  Brougham,  so  De-Itchen- 
boume  may  be  identical  with  Tichboume  or  Tich- 
borne. In  Beny's  Hampshire  Genealogies  (1832), 
the  Journal  of  the  Archaeological  Society  (vol.  ii.), 
and  Nichols^  Herald  and  Genealogist  (voL  iv.), 
infonnation  respecting  this  old  fanuly  and  their 
roddence;  visited  by  King  James  I.,  may  be  seen. 

Chr.  Cookb. 

"Shillt-Shally*'  (4^  S.  ix.  217.)— 

**  There's  no  delay,  they  ne're  stand  shall  I  shall  I, 

Hermogenes  with  Da'Uila  doth  dally .** 
(John  Taylor,  The  Water  Cormorant,  dec.  date  1622.) 

"  ....  I  don't  sUnd  shill  I,  shall  I,  then;  if  I  say't 
TU  do*t." 
(Coogreve,  The  Way  of  the  World,  III.  16,  date  1700.) 

John  Addis. 

S.^B  suggestion  that  this  noun  is  nothing  more 
ibaB  a  corruption  of  '^  shall  I,  shall  I,''  carries 
one  difficulty  with  it,  viz.,  the  change  of ''  shall  I" 
into  thilhj.  Shilly-shaUy  does  certainly  mean 
wavering,  hesitating,  undecided,  oblique ,  but  in 
mind  the  derivation  given  by  Thomson  in  his 
ions  is  the  true  one.  He  says  it  is  from  the 
^  Gothic  skialgy  skcelg,  corresponding  with  ffKo\i6s, 
See  Shail/'  under  which  word  he  says  that  it  means 
obHque,  crooked,  indirect ;  Swed.  sk€elgf  Belg. 
t^eu;  Teut.  schiel,  <rK€\\6f,  The  word  skue  also 
is  of  the  same  kind,  meaning  oblique,  indirect; 
Gothic,  ska,  skar;  Swed.  skef;  Dan.  skietv ;  Teut. 
tMrf,  scheich ;  Belg.  scheef;  Scot,  skew ;  Welsh, 
•ago,  J.  J. 

"H^Bl  hear!"  (4»»»  S.  ix.200,  229.)— Lord 
Lttteltgn's  view  is  confirmed  by  the  old  catch — 

**  Mr.  Speaker,  the'  tia  late 
'  I  rise  to  lengthen  the  debate — 

Order !  order  !  hear  him  ! 
Hear  him ! 
Sir,  I  shall  name  you  if  you  stir — 
Order !  Order !  Pray  support  the  Chair." 

W.  G. 

**  Proud  of  his  *b€ar  hims !  *  proud  too  of  his  vote, 
And  lost  virginity  of  oratory." 

Dim  Juan,  canto  xiii.  stanza  91. ' 

W.  J.  Bernhard  Smith. 

BIatjthbr  (4*  S.  ix.  95,  167,  207) :  Eastern 
Oovirnss  Psoyinciausms. — The  following  ex- 
tact  &om  the  vmtings  of  Sir  Thomas  Browne, 
H.D^  of  Norwich,  the  author  of  ih^BeUaio  Medici, 
and  that  quaint  book  Pseudodoxia  Epiaemica ;  or, 
^tfttiriea  into  very  many  received  Tends  and  com- 
monfy  premtmed  Trtdhs,  may  amuse  readers  who 
flze  intenated  in  words  peculiar  to  East  Anglia : — 

"  It  wmm  aot  Impowihte  to  make  an  original  rodnction 
of  aM^T  muds  cf  no  general  reception  in  EngUmd,  bat 


of  common  use  in  Norfolk,  or.  peculiar  to  the  East-Anale 
counties  :  as  Bawnd,  Bunny,  Thurck,  Enemis,  Matchly, 
Sammodithee,  Mawther^  Kedge,  Seele,  Straft,  Clever, 
Dere,  Nicked,  Stingy,  Noneare^  Teft,  Thepes,  Goqgood, 
Kamp,  Sibrit,  Tangast,  Sap,  Cothish,  Thokish,  Bide-owe, 
Paxwax.  Of  these,  and  of  some  others  of  no  easy  ori- 
ginals, when  time  will  permit,  the  resolution  shall  be 
attempted ;  which  to  effect,  the  Danish  language,  new 
and  more  ancient,  may  prove  of  good  advantage :  which 
nation  remained  here  fifty  years  upon  agreement,  and 
have  left  m^nv  families  in  it,  and  the  language  of  these 
parts  had  snreiy  been  more  commixed  and  perplex,  if  the 
fleet  of  Hugo  de  'Bones  had  not  been  cast  away,  whereon 
threescore  thousand  souldiers,  out  of  Britany  andFlandeifl, 
were  to  be  wafted  over,  and  were  b^'  King  John*8  appoint- 
ment to  have  a  settled  habitation  in  the  counties  of  iVor- 
folk  and  Suffolk."— Tract  Hie  VIII.  On  Languages,  par- 
ticularly the  Saxon,  folio,  1686,  p.  48. 

This  passage  has  been  transcribed  from  the 
advertisement  or  preface  to  The  Horkey,  a  bal- 
lad •  descriptive  of  harvest  festivities  by  Robert 
Bloomfield,  rich  in  East  Anglian  provincialisma, 
and,  like  all  his  effusions,  true  to  nature — '^  One 
touch  of  nature  makes  the  whole  world  kin.''  He 
was  as  a  poet  to  the  Eastern  Counties  what  Con- 
stable was  to  them  as  their  painter ;  and  his  Muse 
delighted  in  the  simple  and  common  objects  of 
agricultural  life  and  scenery.  As  John  Eeble 
sings: — 

"^  Give  true  hearts  but  earth  and  sk^. 
And  some  flowers  to  bloom  and  die : 
Homely  scenes,  and  nmple  views. 
Lowly  thoughts  may  best  inftise." 

John  Pickford,  M.A. 

The  word  tnauiher  is  certainly  a  difficulty,  and 
though  mentioned  in  Bailey's  Dictionary,  its  deri- 
vation is  avoided.  In  "  N.  &  Q."  !•'  S.  ix.  601, 
F.  C.  H.  says  maukin  is  connected  with  mat  for 
Moll  or  Mary,  "  as  if  peculiar  to  Norfolk  and 
Suffolk,"  on  the  authonty  of  Forby  (  Vocabulary 
of  East  Anglia).  Can  fnauther  be  connected  with 
maukin  (which  tnay  be  a  diminutive)  and  mallf 
This  is  only  a  humble  suggestion  of  which  I 
cannot  be  certain.  H.  S.  Skipton. 

Burns  ksn  Keble  (4*»»  S.  ix.  168.)  — The 

thought  referred  to  by  Norval  Clyne  does  not 

appear  to  me  to  be  so  recondite  as  to  make  its 

first  utterance  a  matter  of  much  importance  aa  to 

the  claim  of  originality ;  but  it  may  gratL^  your 

correspondent  to  be  referred  to  a  passage  m  the 

Gerusalemme  Liberata  of  Tasso,  wno  wrote  some 

two  centuries  before  Bums.    He  will  find  it  in 

the  fourth  stanzqi  of  the  third  book : — 

^  Cosi  di  naviganti,"  kc. 
.  .  .  e  r  uno  all*  altro<l  mostra  e  intanto  oblia 
La  noja  e  il  mal  della  passata  via." 

Or,  as  Fairfax  has  it — 

*'  As  when  a  troop  of  ioUy  sailors  row,*'  &c.  &c, 
<*  And  each  to  other  snow  the  land  in  haste. 
Forgetting  quite  their  pains  and  perils  past.** 

By  the  way,  from  the  turn  of  the  es^renion, 
and  the  allusion  to  the  ^'  bUlows/'  it  ia  probaUe 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4"»  S.  IX.  Apml  6,  7S. 


that  Keble  had  Tasao  in  his  recollection  rather 
than  Burns.  S.  K. 

Major  John  Wa.de,  circa  1651  (4***  S.  ix.  110.) 
If  ANimuARiAN;  who  writes  in  the  above  number, 
has  a  genealogical  account  of  the  Wade  family, 
will  he  oblige  me  with  his  address?    J.  E.  F.  A, 

27,  Walbrook,  E.G. 

Seugius  (4**"  S.  ix.  221.) — This  person  was  evi- 
dently the  famous  patriarch  of  Constantinople, 
who,  together  with  Pope  Honorius  and  others,  was 
condemned  and  anathematized  by  the  sixth  general 
council,  or  the  third  general  council  held  at  Cun- 
statUinople^  not  at  RomCf  as  a  favourer  of  the  mo- 
nothelite  heresy.*  He  "  is  said  to  have  been  a 
Syrian,  and  connected  with  the  Jacobite  sect 
{TheophatreSj  274,  edit.  Paris).'*  There  was  no 
general  council  held  at  Home  in  the  year  681,  but 
a  provincial  council  was  held  there  in  the  year 
679  under  Pope  Agatho,  "Jc  rebus  Britannicce 
Ecclesia,  in  basilica  Salvatoris  hostis  Constanti- 
nianee  mmcupatcc.^^  (Ilarduin,  iii.  1038,  fol.  Paris, 
1714.) 

This  Sergius  is  not  to  be  confounded  with  the 
individual  who  is  said  to  have  assisted  Mahomet 
in  composing  the  Koran.  The  latter  was  "a 
monk  and  an  Armenian  by  nation,  who  lived  at  the 
same  time,  who,  being  got  out  of  his  monastery 
to  engage  himself  in  the  errors  of  the  Arians  and 
Nestorians,  travelled  into  Arabia,  where  he  became 
acquainted  with  Mahomet."  (Collier's  2)/c<w/i«ry, 
sub  voce,  fol.  1701.)  I  find  no  accomit  of  "  the 
manner  of  his  death,"  or  whether  he  had  any- 
thing to  do  with  "  the  founder  of  the  Bohira  mer- 
cantile tribes  of  Surat."        Edmund  Tew,  M.A. 


Hubert  de  Burgh,  teinp.  John  (4**»  S.  ix.  219.) 
According  to  a  genealogy  in  my  possession,  certi- 
fied by  Sir  Wm.  Betham,  Ulster  King-at-Arms, 
Hubert  de  Burgh,  Chief  Justiciary  of  England, 
was  the  eldest  son  of  Hubert  de  Burgh  or  de 
Burgr,  who  was  great-great-grandson  of  Harlowe 
de  Burgh  or  de  Burgr,  who  married  Arlotta, 
mother  of  William  the  Conqueror.  William  Fitz- 
Adelm  de  Burgho,  the  second  Lord-Lieutenant  of 
Ireland,  was  yqunger  brother  to  Hubert,  the 
father  of  the  justiciary.  He  (Fitz-Adelm)  mar- 
ried, firstly,  Julia,  daughter  of  Robert  Doisnell  j 
and  secondly,  Anna,  daughter  of  Donnell  Moe 
O'Brien  of  Thomoud.  By  his  wife  Julia  he  had 
Kichard  de  Burgh  the  elder,  Lord  Chief  Justice 
of  Ireland  1227,  Lord  of  Connaught,  who  married 
Una  O'Connor,  daughter  of  Hugh  O'Connor,  King 
of  Connaught.  Hubert  John  de  Bergh. 

2,  Warwick  Terrace,  Dublin. 

"  Wagga-Wagga  "  (4''»  S.  ix.  215.)— The  cor- 
rect pronunciation,  according  to  colonial  usage,  is 
IVonga-  Wonga,  J.  W.  W. 

*  Uarduim  Qmcilia,  torn.  iii.  act  xviii.  p.  1122,  fol. 
Parifl,  MDOcxiv. 


Verrio  the  Painter  (4»»»  S.  ix.  6,  140.)— I* 
think  if  your  esteemed  correspondent  Mb.  B&m 
had  been  aware  of  the  valuaole  critical  remarb 
upon  the  art  of  Verrio  which  will  be  found  ii 
The  Century  of  Painters,  1866,  he  would  ban 
included  that  work  in  the  very  interesting  lilt 
which  he  noted  for  Dr.  Eamaoe.  Will  yon 
permit  me  to  suggest  it  to  him  ?  R.  S.  A. 

Chaucer's  Knowledge  of  Italian  (4**  S.  ix. 
200.) — Chaucer's  obligations  to  Italian  litezmton 
have  been  somewhat  fully  stated  in  an  inanganl 
dissertation,  by  Dr.  Alfons  Kissner  (Bonn,  IfiO?).* 
Tyrwhitt's  and  Warton's  services,  in  shewing  • 
Chaucer's  acquaintance  with  Italian  souraes,  an 
acknowledged  by  Dr.  Kissner,  but  since  their  tuna 
an  opposite  view  has  been  taken  by  English  o^ 
tics,  whose  dicta  have  reached  their  uimaz  ia 
Craik,  according  to  whom  Chaucer  probably  knew 
nothing  of  Italian  literature  but  the  name.  Ii 
opposition  to  this  summary  judgment^  Dr.  KiflDVi 
at  the  conclusion  of  his  Dissertation,  briefly  statM: 

*' As  th«  result  of  oar  investigation  it  foUowB,  Chuea^ 
knowlcdf^  of  Italian  poetfy  is  indisputable.  Soma  fait 
tations  aad  borrowings  we  think  have  been  pn>ted,Hl 
others  made  probable.  In  the  direct  imitation!  the  «li 
poetical  forms  of  the  Middle  Affes  prevail ;  beotui  tkl 
youthful  poet  had  not  vet  collected  the  ftnits  cf  Mi 
Italian  studies.  The  Italian  influence,  in  its  wiula  V* 
tent,  lint  appears  in  the  Canterbury  Talet:  9cad  ftMS 
comparison  of  this  immortal  creation  with  the  works  thit 
preceded  it,  tirst  appears,  as  £bert  remarks— to  eoodsii 
with  his  words— *  Chancer  is  indebted  for  hisliighveit 
turc,  and  along  with  it  the  full  development  of  his  nMtkA 
individuality,  to  his  great  Italian  coutemporarieB.^'' 

JOHX  MaOUTi 

Oxford. 

"Bonspeil:  Bonailla"  (4«»'  S.  ix.  217.)- 
Jamieson  derives  the  bon  in  tJiese  two  words  iS^ 
ferently.  Bonspiel  from  Belg.  bofine,  a  YillageKff 
from  Su.-G.  bonde,  a  countijman.  So alsoMiA 
in  modem  Swedish  and  Danish) ;  and  ^9m/,  a  pbf- 
The  Swedish  bondespelare  is  ''  a  fiddler.'  JSomm 
=  Fr. '  ^  Bon-allez."  JoHV  ADTOk 

Kustington,  Littlehampton,  Sussex. 

Myfanwy  (4*»»  S.  ix,  138, 188, 225.)— MTynivyi 
the  ancient  Welsh  beauty,  would  probably  luff* 
been  bom  to  blush  unseen,  only,  like  BeatEice,  ihi 
was  loved  by  a  poet — one  Hywel  ap  ^moB 
Llygliw,  who  (says  Owen*s  Canirian  Bw^nMi 
^'  composed  a  fine  ode  to  her,  which  is  pxintsd  0 
the  Welsh  Archaiologv."  This  Hywel  flonrialrf 
between  a.d.  1350  and  1390.  To  the  prasent  dij 
pedantic  Welshmen  occasionall^r  call  their  dtn^" 
ters  by  this  name,  generally  with  another  beW 
it  for  everyday  use !  A*  &    ; 

Croeswylan,  Oswestry.  , 


The  **  famous  ancient  Welsh  beauty  "  to 
I  alluded,  was  Myfanwy  Vechan  (or  vanghaajkl 


*  Ckauctr  in  «emeii  Bezukfn$tn 
ratur. 


•"^ 


»S,  IX,ApaiL6,'72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


descendant  of  Tudor  Trevor  (the  founder  of  tlu^ 
siiteenth  noble  tribe,  or  Tribe  of  the  Marches). 
She  lived  at  Castell  Dinas  Bran,  near  Llangollen, 
Her  beauty,  grace,  cGarity,  £c.  &c.  are  celebrated 
ia  a  cbarminrr  ode  b;  the  bard  Ilonel  ap  EtDioii, 
written  at  the  close  of  the  fourteenth  century. 

Ctmbo, 
BirmiDgbam. 

PuRiiAN  CHiNQEs  OP  Name  (4'"  S.  vii.  viii. 
paaitn.) — The  following  paragraph  from,  I  tbinif, 
the  tract  called  7ft*  Character  of  a  London  Diurnal, 
Dec.  1644,  Beems  to  bear  upon  this  subject :  — 

-  Bat  the  dmniBl  is  wearv  of  the  arm  of  Hesh,  and  noic 
Uguu  an  hozaana  (o  Cromwell,  one  that  bath  beat  U|. 
his  drums  dean  through  the  Old  TeetameDt 
learn  the  genealogr  of  oar  Savionr  by  the  ni 
regiment.  The  mu^er-mnster  asta  no  other  iul  iuuei 
the  first  ehapter  of  Matthew.  With  nhat  face  can  thev 
otHSCt  [D  the  king  bringing  in  foreigneri,  when  thetn- 
•elvea  entertain  such  an  army  of  Hebrews  ?  " 

G.  H.  C. 
"Whychcottb  of  St.  Jodh's":  "TnB  Fok- 
TUMATB  Youth"  (4'"  S.  viii.  642;  ii.  148,  206.) 
Your  correspondent  E.  V.  is  right,  and  the  author 
of  Whychcotte  wrong.  The  lady  was  not  th'' 
"  danffbter  of  an  earl,  but  of  "  an  esquire  of  largv 
hereditary  landed  eatates."  I  af&nn  this  upon  thi 
incontrovertible  authority  of  near  family  connec- 
tion. She  waa  the  niece  of  Sir  Robert  Wilson's' 
(m;  uncle  and  father-in-law)  brother's  wife;  and 
it  waa  Sir  Robert  Wilaon  wbo  aaved  her  from 
the  distressing  alliance.  lie  auspected  the  pre- 
-jBDmaa  from  tbe  first.  The  youth  talked  largely 
>f  hia  estates  in  France,  among  other  possessiona; 
ind  boasted  of  the  excellence  of  the  champagne 
woduced  there,  ijir  Robert  at  table,  where  the 
nne  was  to  be  tasted,  desired  the  butler  to  brin^ 
lim  a  cork.  This  he  did  privately.  Sir  Robert 
nelson  put  it  in  his  pocket ;  and  when  the  party 
iToke  up,  examined  it  vith  Mr. — .  It  waa  marked 
rith  tbe  name  of  an  eminent  grower  and  mer- 
huit.  From  this  first  detection  of  falsehood  the 
rliole  tissue  of  fraud  was  gradually  unravelled. 
Hebbebt  Eanbolph, 

Bingmore. 

JKEV13:  JARvra,  ETC.  (4"  S.  viii.  639;  ii.  100,  I 
107. )t— Lord  Byron  aays :  —  I 

*■  Beaidea,  (he  prince  is  all  for'the  Iand-9ervi<:e,.  | 

Forgetting  Duncan.  Nelson,  Howe,  and  Jervis."  i 

Dm  Joan,  canto  L  atan.  iv.  lines  T,  S.      I 
J.  PBRRr.      I 
Waltham  Abbe/.  j 

Lbfsth  op  Haib  ni  Men  a»d  Women  (4'"  S. 
Hi.  pastim.) — In  connection  with  thia  subject  ' 
le  following  may  be  worth  noting :  —  I 

**  Mrs,  ABTL.BT,  a  minor  actrtSB  of  mnch  merit,  wifb  of 
M  old  gentleman  called  Youni;  Astley,  bad  such  luxu-  ' 
ant  ludr,  that  she  eonld  etand  uptight  and  it  coven 


She  used,  therefore,  to  wind  this  imtnenBe  quantity  of 
hair  round  her  bead,  and  put  over  it  ■  capacioDs  caxon. 
The  consequence  ot  which  nas,  that  her  head  bore  about 
the  same  proportion  to  the  rest  of  her  figure  that  • 
whale's  skull  does  to  its  body;  and  as  she  played  most  of 
the  heroines,  the  reader  may  judge  ot  the  effect." — 
"  Records  of  a  Stage  Veteran,  No.  iv.,"  the  Xea  JUonlhly 
Mag.,  1835,  part  L  p.  358. 

J.  Peket. 

Willham  Abbey. 

Stamp  used  djsieab  of  iie  Sion  Mambal  oe 

Henrt  VIU.  (4'"  S.  Lt.  170,  228.)— To  the  beat  of 

my  recollection  there  are  to  be  seen,  in  the  library 

of  Eton  College,  two  documents  dating  from  the 

reign  of  Henry  Vm.    To  the  one  is  attached  the 

^^  ^   ,  king's  sign  manual,  and  to  the  other  ia  a   fac- 

hi%  I  simile  of  theraynl  autograph,  impressed  evidently 

laii     by  a  stamp,  'W.  F.  niosnra. 

[Examples  of  aUmpa  used  instead  of  the  sign  mannal 

are  by  no  means  so  uncommon  as  our  correspondents 

imagine.    Manv  may  be  found  amongst  the  Cottoniait 

md  Harleian  rfSS.  st  the  British  Muaanm.— F.d.] 

Else  (4'"  S,  ix.  219.)^I  should  think  there 
could  be  no  doubt  that  this  name  came  to  ua 
From  Germany,  and  is  the  same  as  EI2,  the  town 
in  Prussia.  My  own  grandmother  by  mj  father's 
tide  was  Countess  of  Elz.  The  name  is,  Ibhelieve, 
occasionally  found  as  a  surname  in  Germany, 
.■specially  in  the  Rhenish  provinces ;  and  we  have  at 


not  this  name  have  been  Imported  into  England, 
like  so  many  others,  from  Germany  or  Bel^um  P 
A  party,  however,  who  seemed  never  to  have 
heard  the  name,  were  once  much  diverted  by  my 
introducinj;  it  thus  in  tbe  form  of  an  enigma;  — 
A  man  sat  all  alone  at  home, 

Snug  in  his  elbow  chair ; 
Though  Db  one  else  was  in  the  room. 
Still  some  one  elae  nras  there. 
Give  it  up  P    Atu.  Tbe  man's  name  was  Else, 
F.  C.  H. 
(Bearing  the  arms  of  Eli.) 
St.  WnrBLi,  (4''  S.  ix.  221.)— This  i§  certwnly 
iatended  for  St.  Winwaloe,  Abbot  of  Tauracum, 
illustrious  for  his  sanctity  in  Britain,  Prance,  and 
I'landers.     His  relics  are  kept  in  St.  Peter's  Ab< 
bey  at  Ghent.     His  feast  ia  on  March  3,  and  he 
is  usually  mentioned  in  the  old  lines  thus ;  — 
"  First  comes  David, 
Then  cornea  Chad, 
Then  comes  W  Inwaloe, 
Like  one  mad." 

F.  G.  H. 
PiSBTLK  (4'"  S.  is.  220.)— I  doubt  much  if  this 
i-;  the  proper  spelling  of  this  word,  which  is  com- 
mon enough  in  the  Eastern  Counties  of  Ehiglaud. 
ui  uiiu  II  aivcmx  ^°^  "^^  ^  "^"^  I*'-  Johnson  correct  in  epelEng  it 
o  herfeet  like  »  veil.  She  waJ  ^^' pr'"nd  rfthSS  '  p'ckle,  ot  pighiel.  He  says  that  in  some  countries 
(KCD  looks,  and  ■  alight  accident  by  fire  having  once  it  is  called  a  pitgh.  I  prefer  the  speUing  of 
i&Umi  tiuBi,  shi  resolvsd  ever  otter  to  play  in  a  wig.  '   Forby   in   bia,  Vocahtdary   of  Eatt  AiigUa,   who 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<*B.IX.  AmL6,1S. 


writes  the  word  piUe  or  picie.  Certainly  tliis 
accords  with  the  usual  pronunciation.  Mb.  R. 
HoLLAin)  says  that,  in  ^dfordshire,  this  word 
means  a  small  enclosure  near  a  house.  But  in 
other  parts  it  simplj  means  a  small  piece  of  en- 
closed ground;  and.  is  as  frequently  found  away 
from  a  house  as  near  one.  forby's  deriyation  of 
the  word  from  the  Italian  piccolo  seems  very 
plausible.  F.  C.  H. 

**  Pide,  or  Pightic,  is  a  small  parcel  of  land  enclosed 
with  a  hedge ;  a  little  close ;  the  common  people,  in  some 
parts  of  England,  call  it  a  Pingle/' — Blount's  Law  DiC' 
tionary. 

E.  V. 

Bbitaxxicus,  its  Orthography  (1"  S.  S'*  S. 

pamnu) — 

^^  Brittanua,"]  Secuti  sumus  scripturam  librorum  manu- 
scriptomm.  Sciunt  antem  emditi  ita  ferme  scribi  hoc 
nomen  in  antiquis  codicibus.  Balnzii  Xotip  in  Marium 
Mcrcatorcm,"  p.  441.  Cfr.  Bede's  Ecch.  Hist.,  cap.  xii, 
§  28,  quoted  in  «  N.  &  Q."  2nd  §.  ix.  428. 

BlRLI0TH£CAB.  OhETHAV. 

''Aired"  (4*'*  S.  ix.  172,  228).- J.  Ck.  IJ.s 
"  emendation  "  (I),  as  he  calbi  it,  is  most  palpably, 
nay,  ludicrously  wronpf;  whilst  the  ''editorial 
remark,*'  which  he  thinks  he  has  emended,  is  just 
as  palpably  right  To  ''  air  "  does  meau,  as  Wor- 
cester says, ''  to  expose  to  the  air  '* ;  and  the  mean- 
ing of  "to  dry,"  which  it  also  has,  is  merely  a 
secondary  meaning,  and* has  been  deduced  from  an 
observation  of  the  fact  that  ex]^osure  to  air  will,  as 
a  rule  and  unless  the  air  itself  is  overcharged  with 
moisture,  "  dry  "  clothes  or  other  things  that  are 
exposed  to  it*  J.  Ck.  R.  would  not  have  written 
his  note  if  he  had  compared  the  equivalents  of 
''  to  air  '*  in  other  languages.  The  Fr.  aerery  which 
is  indubitably  derived  from  ther  Lat.  aer,  is  used 
in  the  sense  of  "  airing  "  a  room,  "  airing  "  clothes, 
and  "  aerating  "  t  bread  and  water  or  other  liquids. 
In  Spanish,  too,  we  find  the  verb  airear  (  =  aerer) 
from  aire  (air);  and  in  German  again  wo  have 
lu/tenf  to  air,  from  X?i/V,  nb. 

J.  Ck.  It's  note,  therefore,  serves  only  to  show 
how  people  will  go  out  of  the  way  to  hunt  for 
etymologies  which  are  all  the  while  under  their 
nose,  and  are  obvious  to  cvervbodv  but  themselves. 

F.  Chance. 

Sydenham  Ilil]. 

•  The  air  may,  of  course,  be  warm  or  cold.  J.  Ck.  R. 
probably  did  not  reflect  that,  when  damp  sheets  or  clothes 
are  put  before  the  fire,  it  is  still  the  warm  dry  air  in  the 
immediate  vicinity  of  the  fire,  which  takes  up  the  muis- 
tnre  from,  and  so  dries  the  sheets  and  the  clothes.  But 
col^  dry  air  will  answer  the  purpose  equally  well,  tliough 
the  process  is  less  rapid,  and  in  the  country  clothes 
wfaich  have  been  washed  arc  commonly  hung  up  in  the 
open  air." 

t  We  have,  therefore,  made  tioo  verb*,  "  to  air,**  and 
"  to  aerate,"  f^om  the  same  root,  whilst  the  French  have 
contented  tbemselves  with  one. 


The  Ssybk  Dials  (4:^  S.  yiii.  passim;  is.  8^ 
145.) — ^The  pillar  which  gave  its  name  to  tUi 
locaHty,  which  has  been  more  than  once  bm- 
tioned  lately  in  <<N.  &  Q./'-i8  lefemd  to  iate 
following  *^  Parody  on  Gray's  Ele^  "  in  tine  Sjfkit 
of  the  Public  JournaU,  1708  (p.  iS) :  — 

**  One  mom  I  miss'd  him  at  the  accnstomM  pUee^' 
The  seven-faced  pillar,  and  the  favoaiite  waUi 
Another  came,  nor  yet  saw  his  face : 
The  post,  the  crossings  were  deserted  aD." 

a 

Heraldic  Hedgehog  (4'^  S.  iz.  88,  2S9l)— 
I  should  be  glad  if  J.  J.  M.  would  commmDHll 
with  me  direct  respecting  the  AbrahaUn.'  I  pe- 
pose  to  insert  their  pedigree  in  my  farthcood^f 
t>ook  on  Herefordshire  families,  and  have  ol- 
tained  from  various  sources  a  good  deal  of  Wr 
formation  about  them.  Would  J.  J.  M.  iirfoB 
me  upon  what  authority  he  writes  **  IngMtn* 
as  '^  Ingatestone  "  P  I  have  seen  it  spelt  lufli 
(Smyth's  Liies  of  the  Berkeleys),  but  never  in  H^ 
longer  form.  C.  J.  RoBUMR 

Norton  Canon,  Hereford. 

The  Ostrich  Feathers  of  thb  Flmrci  9 
Wales  (i*"*  S.  ix.  138,  221.)-P1micIi«,  it  i|- 
pearS;  cert'unly  uses  the  woid  "  bore  '*  wiA  A- 
spcct  to  Thomas  Mowbray^s  alleged  uae  of  Am 
feathers,  and  not  "  wore  ;  but  I  doubt  whuftg" 
Mr.  Nichols*  interpretation  of  the  zest  of  At 
passage  is  correct.  I  think  he  has  been  inflneiwt 
m  reading  it,  by  a  preconceived  belief  that  t^ 
one  feather  was  at  tnat  time  borne.  This  aii|f  J* 
the  fact,  but  is  it  expressed  in  the  paseage 
discussion  ?  I  think  that  if  it  related  to 
people  and  times,  and  some  other 
instance,  if  it  stood  thus — '^  the  aiTOWB  are 
singly  by  not  only  Mr.  Brown  and  Mr.  Jooei^  W 
by  Mr.  Kobinson,  who  must  have  borne  tiliem  If 
grant,''  &c. — Mr.  Nichols  might  have  undoiloei 
it  to  mean,  as  I  do,  merely  that  the  featheit  iwt 
represented  disjoinedly,  and  not  in  a  group;  9^ 
riancli^  does  not  begin  by  saying,  as  Mb.  NicMI 
doei«,  '^  the  feather  is  borne '^  (after  whidi  m^ 
is  unmeaning),  nor  does  he  add  that  Thoai> 
Mowbray  bore  tV,  as  Mr.  Nichols  also,  oUh 
omits  to  do  after  altering  feathem  to  featfaei: 

With  respect  to  the  use  of  the  woid  *^  plnas"^ 
to  indicate  one  or  several  feathers,  I  must  Hflt 
remark  that  undertaken  do  not,  unftnrtmili^i 
possess  the  privilege  of  invariably  speakiiig  goM 
English,  and  cannot  be  allowed  to  settle  a  qn*- 
tinn  of  this  sort,  about  which  dictiooaiT-inHfl> 
differ.  Mr.  Nichols  quotes  RichaordsonVy  ^  ^ 
I  will  quote  Webster  s,  the  only  one  I  Ihiv  ^ 
hand.  A  plume,  he  says,  is,  <'  I.  Tlie  fcaftsr  ■ 
a  bird ;  partictdarly  a  huve  i  Bather.  9L  A  ftlA> 
worn  as  an  ornament;  j  fodW^  an  mM^ 
feather,*' — a  definition  whimi  aeema  aalenlilii  1^ 
plunge  me  into  a  sort  of  ▲thaoaaiaa  wfcpBWfMl 
with  Mb.  Nichols  as  to  whatlm  fla«»|feip|'j 


i^.'J 


4^  S.  DL  April  6,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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are^  or  are  not,  actually  one  plume.  Wel»ter  says 
moreover,  that  to  plume  is  '^  4.  To  set  as  a  plume ; 
to  aet  erect,  6.  To  adorn  with  feathers  or  plumes.'* 
Considering  also  the  derivation  of  the  word  (as 
given,  by  Mr.  Nichols)  its  true  meaning  would 
appear  to  be  more  respected  by  my  use  of  it  than 
by  his.  T.  E.  S. 

Abchbibhop  Blackburitb  (4*  S.  ix.  180,  226.) 
The  Alumni  Westmonasterienses  (edition  1852),  in 
its  sketch  given  of  the  life  of  Archbishop  Black- 
bume,  makes  no  mention  at  all  of  his  having  mar- 
ried— a  rather  unaccountable  omission.     He  is 
known  to  have  been  united  to  a  sister  of  William 
Talbot,  Bishop  of  Salisbury.  There  was  a  Francis 
Blackbume,  Archdeacon  of  Cleveland,  who  was 
bom  at  Hichmond  in  the  county  of  York  in  1705 ; 
but  he  does  not  appear  to  have  been  related  to  the 
aichbishop.  Francis  Blackburne  was  the  author  of 
The  Confessionaly  and  was  suspected,  with  good 
raason,  of  holding  deistical  and  bocinian  doctrines. 
It  is  to  be  hoped  when  the  long-expected  second 
volume  of  The  Lives  of  the  Archbi^iopa  of  York 
appears,  Canon  Kaine,  whose  leamiDg,  research, 
and  accuracy  are  proverbial,  may  have  been  able 
to  throw  some  light  on  obscure  portions  of  Black- 
bnzne's  history.     "The  jolly  old  Archbishop  of 
York,''  he  was  styled  by  Walpole,  and  his  enemies 
said  of  him  that  ''  he  gained  more  hearliiirthan 
Bouls,''  in  allusion  to  his  great  popularity.     There 
was  a  tradition  circulated  that  he  had  in  early 
life  been  a  buccaneer ;  and,  according  to  the  writer 
of  his  memoir  in  the  Alumni  Westmonasterienses — 

''This  stor^'  was  so  prejudicial  to  his  reputation,  that  he 
5«ve  way  for  a  time  to  the  unpopularity  which  it  occa- 
Boned,  and  resigned  the  subdeanery  of  Exeter  in  1702, 
Jiongh  he  was  reinstated  in  it  July  27, 1704."  (Page  178.) 

Lord  Byron  too,  in  a  note  on  his  poem,  7%e 
Coraatr,  quotes  a  lengthy  extract  from  Noble's 
Continuation  of  Granger^ s  Biographical  Dictionary 
mih  reference  to  the  same  subject. 

John  Pickford,  M.A. 

Hangate  Street,  Pickering. 

Wordsworth's  *'  Primrose  '•  (4**'  S.  ix.  197.) 
Sorely  there  is  the  same  similarity  between  the 
dea  of  Wordsworth  and  that  in  "  Life  let  us 
Jberish,"  that  there  is  between  Macedon  and 
fonmouth — a  flower  in  both. 

Li  the  latter  we  seek  and  And  thorns,  and  do 

lot  notice  the  flower : —  ,  I 

**  Saeht  Domoi  anf  nnd  findet  sie 
Und  lasst  das  Vcilchen  unbemerkt 
Dm  una  am  Wege  bluht." 

Peter  Bell  sees  the  primrose  and  observes  tliat 
.  is  yellow,  and  notning  more.  Whereas  to 
Fordsworth  the  flower  "  gives  thoughts  which 
e  too  deep  for  tears/'  and  "flashes  upon  that 
iwaid  eje  which  is  the  bliss  of  solitude.''  But 
M  origiiial  idea  is  much  older — "  Consider  the 
lies  of  t&e  field."  W.  G. 


Thb  Queen  at  Temple  Bab  (4^>'  S.  ix.  240.) 
It  has  been  distinctly  stated  tha4^  for  some  time 
previous  to  the  Queen's  visit  to  the  City,  work- 
men were  actively  engaged  in  the  preparatian  oi 
locks  and  keys  for  Temple  Bar.  It  was  at  first 
suggested  that  the  keys  should  be  presented  to 
the  Queen;  but  this  was  abandoned  in  con- 
sequence of  the  delav  in  the  completion  of  the 
keys,  which  are  highly  ornamented,  v^ei^  about 
nine  pounds  each,  and  are  twenty-one  inches  long. 
The  civic  sword  only  was  presented.* 

T.  S.  L. 

« HAin)  OF  Glory  "  (4t»>  S.  ix.  238.)— I  have 
not  at  hand  a  copy  of  Grose's  Provincial  Glossary , 
but  from  a  quotation  from  his  writings  (what 
particular  work  is  not  stated)  in  Brand's  Popular 
Antiquities,  ed.  1S13,  voL  ii.  p.  583,  it  seems  that 
the  passage,  only  a  part  of  wnich  is  extracted  by 
your  correspondent,  does  not  profess  to  relate  our 
English  antiquary's  own  experience.  It  is  intro- 
duced as  an  account  of ''  a  foreign  piece  or  super- 
stition firmly  believed  in  many  parts  of  France, 
Germany,  and  Spain."  It  is  in  fact,  as  we  axe 
informed  further  on,  a  literal  translation  from  a 
French  work  known  as  Les  Secrets  du  petit  Albert^ 
12mo,  Lion,  1751,  p.  110.  This  superstition  is 
mentioned  by  Sir  Walter  Scott  in  The  Antiquary y 
chapter  xviL  Edward  Peacock. 

Bottesford  Manor,  Brigg. 

^*  The  Cloud  with  the  Silver  Lnnwo  "  (4** 
S.  ix.  239.) — This,  perhaps  as  beautiful  an  ex- 
ample of  what  Horace  calls  caUidaJwictura  as  is 
to  be  met  with  in  any  language,  I  have  always 
taken  to  be  original.  In  my  reading,  at  all  events, 
I  do  not  remember  to  have  come  upon  any  passage 
which  might  be  regarded  as  the  source  from  which 
it  is  derived.  It  is  one  of  those  happy  thoughts 
which  go  directly  to  the  heart ;  and  as  an  image 
of  the  *^  lights  and  shades  "  of  human  life,  is  so 
simple  ana  true  to  nature,  that  no  wonder  it  has 
so  earlv  passed  into  a  proverb.  I  think  we  need 
go  no  further  for  its  authorship  than  Milton. 

Edmuitd  Tew,  M.A. 

Ranz-des-Vaches  (4***  S.  ix.  220.) — Raynouard 
{Lex,  Pom.)  renders  ranc^  dcueil,  rocher  (sercan 
rancx  vals  e  tertres.  Pamhaud  d^ Orange) ;  and  the 
Swiss  are  said  to  play  this  air  whilst  leading  their 
cows  to  pasture  on  the  mountains.  F^tis  (Encye, 
des  Gens  du  Monde)  says,  "  I'expression  Kuhreiten 
signifie  marche  des  vaches,*'  Wachter  renders 
the    O.G.   ranzefif   "salire,  coire,  freq.  a  rwnen, 


*  See  the  Thanksgiving  Number  of  The  Graphic  far  a 
copions  account  of  the  civic  ceremonies  ;  sdso  the  Ilius- 
trated  News  illustrations  of  the  civic  sword,  &c  The 
Art  Jounud  for  April  has  made  some  comments  on  the 
City  decorations  in  an  article  entitled  "Art  on  the 
Thanksgiving  Day."  The  Queen's  visit  and  reception 
win  jnsuy  daim  a  space  in  the  fatore  history  of  Eng- 
land's greatness. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIEa 


[4<'S.IZ.Ann6,-7t 


ejasd.  fiignificatiu."  Dr.  Webster  saj's  rata  del 
vachia  18  litemllr  "  the  ronnd  of  the  cowi"  The 
moBt  probable  meining  of  the  term  is  found  in 
Bride],  GU>s».  patois  de  la  Suisse  Roniaade  ',  who 
Tenders  mii:,  "  marche,  suite  d'objets  <;[ui  vont  a  la 
file,  Celtic  rattk,  G.  reihen,  meme  mgnificfttion. 
(Fiibourg)," 

"  Am  dd  aatiehf.  C'est  la  marchc  det  raehes,  cliBn- 
SOD  alpeatre,  originuin   de  la   Gru;6rc.    Ello  tal  im- 

trimee,  tree  la  muslqae,  one  traduction  et  des  notes,  duB 
!  diaMerualetir  snisM,  tome  i.  p.  ■i'i'i." 

Conf.  the  RoDMDce  arraic,  areur,  ranj:,  ligne, 
arrftngement  R.  S.  Charsocs. 

Gray 'a  Inn. 

BiBHOp  IIoRTfE  OP  Norwich  (4'*  S.  ix.  241.) 
It  is  probable  that  Bishop  Home  was  a  descendant 
of  Jonn  Home,  a  French  refugee,  who  with  his 
wife  Margerj  lived  at  Nackhold,  in  the  parish  of 
Wye,  CO.  Kent.  He  died  there  in  1G21,  leaTing, 
ftccowing  to  a  "pedigieB  in  my  noaseasion,  three 
sons  and  three  daugliters,  whose  descents  rami6ed 
very  e:[tenaiTety,  as  may  be  gathered  from  the 
fact  that  nine  ^nerations  of  descent  aro  shown, 
and  the  roll  is  naarlj  five  feet  long,  filled  with 
closely  written  names  embracing  many  of  note  in 
Kent.  My  great-grandcn other,  Sarah  Home,  ap- 
pears  in  the  sixth  generation ;  and  family  trai^- 
tioQ  has  always  handed  down  the  saying  that 
Biehop  Home  was  of  this  family.  There  are  many 
male  branches  not  earned  beyond  a  certain  point, 
from  which  the  bishop  might  have  sprung ;  and 
if  your  correspondent  is  anxious  to  trace  the 
matter,  1  will  afford  him  any  iuformation  I  con. 
One 'fact  is  noticeable — that  amongst  the  rectors 
of  Otham,  about  a  century  before  the  death  of 
Samuel  Home,  the  bishop's  father,  occurs  the 
name  of  John  Daris,  who,  in  a  foot-note,  Hasted 
says,  was  also  curate  of  Maidstone,  and  buried 
there.  There  was  a  John  Davis,  evidently  of 
Puritanical  leaninj^,  ejected  from  Dover  in  IGQl, 
and  Sarah,  daughter  of  the  Sarah  Home  before 
mentioned,  became  wife  of  the  Kev.  Benjamin 
Davis,  late  of  Ashfotd  in  Kent.  I  should  myself 
be  glad  to  learn  the  parentage  of  Samuel  Ilorne. 
NovwiLLA. 

Gravesend. 

Abbt.t  0?  TtAMSET  (4'''  S.  ii.  241.) — A  very 
full  account  of  this  splendid  foundation — one  of 
the  largest  of  the  lie nedictlne  monasteries  in  Eng- 
land— wilt  be  found  in  Dugdale's  Miniasticon, 
edit.  sec.  1082,  fol.  pp.  2.31-24:>.  It  was  founded 
in  the  year  9(!9,  by  Alwyn,  duke  of  the  Eaet 
Angles,  at  the  instigation  of  Oswald,  archbishop 
of  York.  Among  its  patrons  and  benefactors  was 
Dunstao,  the  famous  archbishop  of  Canterbury, 
who,  in  conjuoctdon  with  the  aforesaid  Oswald, 


built  the  chmch  dedicated  to  the  Bleawd  Unj, 
'    all  holy  Tirgins,  and  St.  Benedict. 

Emnnrn  Txw,  MjL 

A  list  of  tlie  chartularies  of  Runaey  Abbey  m^ 

;  seen  in  Sims's  Manual  for  the  OetuilegU, 

22.     The  minister's  accounta  of  Ramaey  fir 

.IS  Henry  VIII.  are  printed  in  the  Moiuufiem, 

ed.  1846,  ToL  ii.  p.  588.  Edwakd  PucwX 

Surnames  (4*  8.  ii.  241.)— The  "anffixoSh 
Bumsall,  Heptonstall,  &c.,"  it  evidently  onhtb 
fag-end  of  A.-S.  steaU,  "place,"  for  the  nltiiBila 
origin  of  which  Mb.  Fedebbe  must  probablT  ■ 
back  to  the  Sanskrit  gtha.  Haigh  ia  powibly  kA, 
hrtge,  bedge,  and  afterwards  the  place  eneloted  lif 
a  hedge.  Levib  SxBSun 

Baines  is  probably  derived  from  some  localitA 
village,  farm,  or  river.  There  is  ■  place  aSm 
Kirkby-on-^in,  in  Lincolnshire. 

Haigh  =:  Hage,  Anglo-Saxon ;  Bmgk,  DntAj 
Ilazf,  French ;  a  hedge,  fence,  or  encloaun.  Qt 
name  is  wide-spread.  Scottish  fmriqnaiiei  bm 
invented  a  Pictish  origin  for  the  Hawha  of  B^ 
merside.  A  Peter  de  Haga  Menu  to  be  At  lot 
man  in  their  authenticated  pedigree  who  prohdlr 
took  bis  name  from  the  enclosure  where  oa  Ihil 

Wigglesworth,  evidently  topographical ;  &■ 
ford  of  Wiggle.  There  is  a  place  called  V^ 
in  Yorkshire. 

Atkinson,  tbe  son  of  AtMn,  a  form  of  AittV 
as  Watkinson  is  the  son  of  WatUn,  a  tarn  ■ 
Walter.  K.  P.  D,  & 

"  Gbbtle  "  (i'"  S.  ii.  200.)— It  does  not  itnli 
me  that  either  Gentle  or  Gillivar,  in  the  ImIM 
alluded  to,  are  names  of  flowers  or  pUnta.  ^ 
third  name,  Rosemary,  is  «  well-known  harli^  W 
its  flower  ia  very  inaigniflcant  The  ballad  i* 
thus  :— 

•■  Tliero  were  three  ladies  playing  at  ball, 
Gillhir.  Genlli,  ini  BoMomarf : 
Thi:rccsnia  three  knights  and  looked  over  (lie  wd^"!^' 

The  three  knighta  offer  marriage  to  the  tbN 
ladies,  but  are  all  rejected.  I  never  aaw  OV 
used  for  Gillyflower,  nor  hare  I  ever  met  wiA  * 
plant  called  Gentle.  I  believe  then  that  otfti 
three  ladies,  Rosemary  la  fhe  only  one  mth  tU 
name  of  a  flower  or  plant, 

,  F.  C.  H.  (HnritUiL) 

The  "  Flower-Gentle,"  a  spedc 


The  Invuktor  of  LtjcireR  Maiohxb  (4*  ^ 
ix.  201.)—!  never  thought  It  admitted  of  oX 
doubt  that  the  name  was  given  to  theaa  natekV 
from  their  grkng  light;  aa  the  mondiv  ilv^ 
called  Lucifer  from  its  uaharin^is  the  B|U> 
day,  "  day's  harbinger,"     'Whan  lart  ytm  1» 


X.  Apnii.6,72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


irought  on  Mb  infelicitous  piopoaal  for  & 
matches,  tlie  following  impromptu  waa 
id  faj  the  aoDouncement : — 

"  Lows,  full  of  fits  and  snatches, 

Would  Ue  lucifet  matches  ; 

For  '  Roguerj-,'  aaya  ttie  aone, 

'  Will  come  to  light,'  era  long, 
"Far  belter  Lowe,  oppose 

The  legalisiDf;  those 

DeceaSd  wife's  sisler  catches, 

WeU  caUed  Luciftr  nialclia." 

F.  C.  H. 
1  Bass  "  (4"'  S.  viii.  pataim ;  ix.  84,  130, 
■  Me,  Bates's  story  of  Lord  and  Lady 

conaultation  about  cuttinc  the  turkey  ia 
'  S.  Tiii.  502)  is  not  true.  My  mother  was 
on  intimftte  t*rma  witt  Lady  Scott  of 
ourt,  near  Reading,  wife  of  Sir  Wm.  Scott 
Kdon's  brother) ;  and  on  one  occasion, 
a  a  Tisit  to  Early  Court,  Lady  Scott  pro- 
)  her  the  cutting  of  a  turkey  in  hall,  as 
vo  ladies  expected  to  dina  by  themselves 

day.  My  mother  laughed,  and  B^d  it 
;ood  and  new  plan.  The  turkey  was  cut, 
Dre  it  was  put  down  to  roast  Sir  Wm. 
loat  uneipectcdly  drove  up  to  the  door. 
-jDtt  was  alarmed,  and  asked  my  mother's 
la   to  what  could  be  done.     My  mother 

and  recommended  her  to  sew  it  up  again. 
t  recollect  whether  Sir  Wm.  Scott  ever 
,  of  what  had  been  done.  F.  C. 

:eii  Mattes  COPIED  (4'°  S.  viii.  480;  ii.  19, 
,  forward  a  translation  of  the  printed  Ger- 
Tuctions  I  received  with  the  paper : —        . 

LCtioa  for  PuBcher's  copying-paper  for  print  and 
ly.  Moisten  one  side,  no  matter  which,  of  a 
the  copving- paper,  hy  Gcally  rubbing  it  with  a  I 
ige  soaked  in  turpentine  oil,  until  the  paper  «p-  , 
be  traasparent.  When,  afttr  a  few  seconds  or 
ime,  according  as  more  or  less  turpentine  oil  is 
glossy  spots  on  the  smeared  paper  bave  disap-  | 
.y  the  oiled  side  of  the  copving-paper  on  the  ! 
}  be  copied,  the  original  itseir  beinK  placed  on  a 
jlasa.  Now  hold  tbe  paper  with  the  left  band, 
lith  the  boae  rubber  on  tlte  unailed  aide  of    ' 


>ower  the  giftie  gie  ua. 


il  all 


>earlv  printed  ■  .    . 

on  glutinoBs  paper  not  print  off  clearly  enough 
elhod,  place  these  originals  between  two  sheets 
g'paper  soaked  in  turpentine  oil,  and  lay  thi 


■Iso  will  allow  tbemselveB 


a  short  (ime  these 
1  be  clearly  copieil." 
n.  A.  St,  J.  M. 


H0TE8  OH  BOOKS,  ETC. 
Englatul.     By  H.  Taine,   D.C.L.   Oxon,  &c 
tid,   with  BH   IntrodwUiT}/  Chaptir,  by  Vf.  i'. 
Straluui  &  Co.) 

of  Oxford  re —   

e  of  D.CX.,  and 


very  properly  determined  to  oonfer  a  similar  hoaonr  upon 
some  diatingiushed  Frmchman,  the  voice  of  Oxfoid  was 
unanimous  in  Aivour  of  the  author  of  the  work  before 
ua ;  and  those  who  read  the  Introdnctory  Chapter,  is 
which  the  translator  fhrnishes  us  with  a  sketch  of  H. 
Taine's  life  and  career,  and  an  outline  of  his  mannar  of 
criticism,  and  comments  upon  his  opinions  and  writings, 
will  readily  agree  that  Oxford  could  not  have  done  better. 
Nor  will  a  perusal  of  M-  Taine's  iVotet  on  Ertghnid  in- 
duce them  to  reconaidar  their  venlicl.  And  this  is  aayiog 
much  for  our  author,  lememberiog  as  we  must  that,  how- 
ever fond  people  may  be  of  repealing  tbe  oft-qnotMl 
couplet  of  Bums — 

"  0  wad  some  power 


their  real  wish  is  only  to  see  themselves  when  in  full 
dre^  and  on  their  beat  behaviour.  This  wish  they  will 
not  find  gratified  in  the  work  before  ui ;  for  Ibongh  he 
looks  at  us  with  friendly  ayes,  M.  Taiue  does  not  shut 
them  to  whdt  ha  considers  our  faults  or  our  shortcomingB, 
Thus,  while  in  a  charming  chapter  on  "  English  Girls  and 
Authoresses,"  he  speaha  in  the  highest  terms  of  tbe 
modesty,  simplicity,  good  sense,  health,  and  beauty,  and 
other  good  qualities  of  our  daughters,  he  doea  not  heii- 
tale  to  point  out  their  want  of  judgment  in  tbe  myatariw 
of  the  toilet,  &c.  And  what  we  baresaid  ofthis  chapter 
applies  to  the  whole  book,  which  when  read  will  be  laid 
wn  with  a  feeling  of  the  truth  of  his  translator's  jndg- 
nt,  that  M.  Taiue  ia  sympathetic  without  stoopmg  lo 


In  Qvt,t  of  Cooliei.     By  James  L.  A,  Hope.   IfUk  IUum- 
tralioru.     (H.  S,  King  4  Co,) 

Aa  the  Coolie  question,  now  attracting  so  much  attan- 

liun,  is  one  which  muat  come  under  the  consideration  of 

tbe  legialature,  this  pleasant  little  volumcv  in  which  Mr. 

Hope  simplv  relates  bis  own  adventures  in  tbe  Sooth 

Seas,  is  extremely  well  timed,  aa  fumistiing  evidence  at 

first  hand  as  to  the  characteristics  of  the  Ciolie  system, 

and  showing  clearly  that  it  is  one  which  only  requliea 

proper  management  toprove  beneficial  alike  to  Uie  CooUee 

and  their  employers.  There  is  a  great  amount  of  common 

sense  in  what  Mr.  Hope  says  as  to  the  efficacy  of  medicine 

as  a  pioneer  of  the  more  important  work  of  the  missionary. 

ITit  ApoHolic   FathtTi.      Tht  Epiitiei  of  S.   Clemnl, 

S.  Ignatiui,   8.  Bamabai,  S.  Fofycar/i  :  toytthtr  wtU 

the  MirlgriLiiii  of  S.  Igrmtaa  and  S.  Pnlycarp.  Tnaa- 

lattd    into  Engiitk,  mlh  rn  IMrodwtory  f/olict,  by 

Charles  H.   Uoole,   M.A..  Senioc  iitudcnt  of  Christ 

Church,  Oxford.    (Kivingtons.) 

The  writings  of  the  Apostolic  Fathers,  as  the  wrillnga    ' 
of  men  who  had  either  coQSersed  with  the  Apostles,  or 
had  at  any  rate  lived  while  the  Apostolic  traditions  were 
still  fresh,  and  personal  recollections  of  Oar  Lord  himself 

were  hardly  a'"     " """  '" '      "   '       ' 

Appendix  to  tl 

ami  therefore,  as  might  be  expecLcu,  wag  iiew  oi  oiu 
religion  which  they  present  is  on  the  whole  tbe  same  ai 
._.    ....__  ._    .L_  .v__  ■n.^ .      xhough  always  i 


xtinct,  may  be  regarded  as  forming  an 
ic  Canonical  Books  of  (he  New  Testament ; 


1   the  New  TesUmi 


mauy  auch  the  present  tranalatioo,  accompanied  as  It  ia 
by  a  very  instructive  Introdaction  by  Hr,  Hoole,  will  t>e 
rery  acceptable.' 
Thi  Ifatwal  Hitlory  of  Ua  Ttar.    By  t/it  laU  Bernard 

B.  Woodward,  Librarian  to  Her  Majesty  the  l^neen. 

Revitd  EdUun.    (Partiid^  &  Co.) 

This  prettily  ilhiatrated  little  volume,  a  legacy  as  it 
were  to  youthful  readers,  shows  that  its  antlwr,  a  genial 


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NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[4tt  S.  IX.  AmL  fl^ -71 


kindly  hearted  man,  well  skilled  as  he  was  in  Art  and  its 
faistoiy,  had  a  strong  appreciation  for  the  beauties  of 
natnie,  and  a  jnst  value  for  the  study  of  natural  history. 

Mes-sks.  Loncmans  announce,  among  other  publica- 
tions of  interest  shortly  to  be  issued  by  them.  Baron 
HUbner's  ''  Memoir  of  Pope  Sixtus  the  Fifth,"  translated 
by  Mr.  Hul^ert  Jemin^ham;  ''The  Pontificate  of  Pius 
the  Ninth,"  b^-  J.  F.  Mafruire,  M.P. ;  ** Three  Centuries 
of  Modem  History,"  by  PrdessOr  C.  D.  Yonge ;  a  new 
edition  of  Lord  Lytton  s  **  Translation  of  Horace  " ;  **  A 
Bod^  of  Paradoies,*'  by  the  late  Professor  De  Morgan, 
reprinted  from  The  Aihieiucumf  with  the  author's  addi- 
tions ;  and  '*  The  Historical  and  Chronological  Encvclo- 
Eicdia."  commenced  by  the  late  B.  B.  Woodward,  iB.A., 
ibrarian  to  the  Queen,  and  completed  by  W.  L.  R. 
Cates,  editor  of  "  The  Dictionary  of  General  Biography." 


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detail  its  hiitory. 

Scientific  Qukrie.s  should  be  addressed  to  some  of 
ow  purely  scientific  contemporaries. 

C.  W.  HAWKniS  (Southampton).—  The  hut  thre^  Head- 
masters have  been  as  follows : —  Westminster :  Dr.  Good- 
enough^  died  Dean  of  Wells  ;  Dr.  Williamson^  died  Vicar 
of  Fershore  ;  Dr.  JLiddell,  now  Dean  of  Chritt  Churchy 
Oxford.  —  Eton :  Dr.  HawtreUf  died  Provost  of  Eton ; 
Dr.  Gootlfordy  now  Provost  of  Eton ;  Dr,  Bcdston,  now 
Fellow  of  Eton, — Charterhouse:  Dr.  Saunders,  now  Dean 
of  PetcAorough  ;  Dr,  Elder,  left  in  ill-health,  and  died 
shortly  after ;  Dr.  Elwyn,  now  Headmaster  of  St.  Peter's 
School,  York. 

Tyro  (Penzance.) — .^n  aphorism  is  applied  to  sentences 
which  limit  and  distinguish  clearly  and  concisely :  a  pre- 
cise, exact,  sententious  saying  ;  a  sagacious  maxim. An 

apophthegm  if  anything  spoken  out,  shortly,  clearly;  a 
short  and  sententious  speech  or  saying, 

W.  Wrioht. — Boyl^s  Court  Guide  first  appeared  in 

1796. Upper  and  Lower  Thomhaugk  Street,  Bedford 

Sqsiare,  kaahg  htcome  a  dknpmtubie  locality,  the 


were  changed  into  the  present  Alfred,  HmmH^, 
Streets. 

T.  K.  TrLLY  (Bron(;liton).~7%e  SpamUk  frpirwihi 
"  Ay  de  ml "  has  'been  discussed  in  «  N.  &  Q."  4*a  T.  H 

51,  103. 

S.  Reid  (Clapton) .— The  celebrated  mmj,  '^Fmrny, 
ing  fair,*'  has  been  usua  " 
but  there  are  very  strong 
written  by  Mr.  Thomas 
died  in  3larch,  1738-9. 

Jonathan  (Philadelphia).— 7%«  tumni  meed  bw  htpt 
^^Qywardly,  cowardly,  euetard/^  ie  enppoeed  to  hne  ib 
oriain  in  the  sJiaking,  quivering  motioM  of  tike  eorfedSee 
culled  ^'custard'*  In  Microcosmos (1637), Act  IIU  llnf- 
ing  snys,  *<  /  have  a  sort  of  cowardly  cmttirde^ 
city,  but  bred  up  at  court,  that  quake  far  feiurr* 

John  Simpson  (Graveaend).  •— 7%«  «ri 
horse-shoe  as  a  sign  soom  an  unwcafion  qf 
success  ;  and  of  course  had  a  peculiar 
against  witches,  as  Gay  expresses  it — 

"  The  horse-ahoe'd  nail'd,  each  ihnsholcra 

\V.  H.  P.  (Belfast.)— /»  1789  Dodd^  r'^h'A^  « 

translation  of  Paul  and  Virginia  under  the  Utie  ^ftti 

and  Mar>',/ar  which  the  editor  had  no  " 


W.  G.  (York.)— 7^  bird  called  the  Liver  it  the  Ckm 
Ibis  (Ibis  falcinellna).  According  to  Moutmgm  *Ar  Jl 
is  adapted  as  a  part  of  the  arms  of  the  ftMrm  ^ 

7%w  bird  is  termed  a  ]iyet,  from  t^iek  Ihat^ , 

town  derived  its  ntune,  and  u  now  ■^'-^^^Hf  M^Af  ^ 
where  the  Pool  was,  on  the  verge  of  «AicA  Ac  Bvar  Mi 
killed."     The  arms  of  the  town  of  Liverpool  are^  < 
comparatively  modem,  and  seem  to  ham  no 
the  Ibis.     7^e  bird  has  been  adopted  m  1h» 
Earl  of  Liverpool.^YarreW8  Biitiflh  BMl 
ii.  605  ;  «  N.  <&  Q."  2»d  S.  ix.  90. 

\Vm.  Henry  Jenkins  (Climping). — The 
Dallawav's  West  Soasez,  *'  He  haA  t^e 
time  called  Qiriste*s  share,**  ve  foil*  to 

time.    ¥\ ae,  in  Bailey* s  Dictionary,  if  ex^ , 

fisliing-net. Ing,  as  a  local  termimatwauhoM  l«afr 

cussed  in  "  N.  k  Q."  4«»  a  v.  659  5  vi.  61.  M8t  111^411^ 
509.570;  vii.  105.  -f    «i-^ 

C.  CiLATTocK. — Anotim-  reply  on  "  JSbftA-JW*  A  H-. 
type,  and  only  wtiiting  for  ineeitwn.    It  flvy  raair^ 
present  communication  unnecessary,  and  dUs  w§  mV 
ptise  not  hearing  to  the  contrary, 

J.  H.  (Stirling.)— 7%«  snUeet  ia  et 
exact  reference  to  Punch  has  been  git 

M.  V.  and  G.  M.  T.— JTowf^ififf  haaec 

Seeyotices  to  OorrespondeiUa,  p,  SU  ^theptmad\ 

E.  C.  {and  other  Corre^jHmdemto.y^Otir 
admit  of  the  insertion  in  extenao  ef  **  The 

W.  Bates.— Your  E^eworth  mate  haaahm^i 

See  p.  188. 

J.  H.  C.  A. —  Win  yom  forward  yaar 
to  S,  Vosper-Thomas,  Ewq„  New  B 
He  wishes  to  place  hinuelf  in  direei 

you. 

Errata.— 4"«  S.  ix.  p.  247,  ooL  i.  line  7  frm  — ^ 
/or"Tawa"rAuf*«Tana";  p.266,QoLiLUBMSflli] 

for  "  bit "  read  « liat.^ 

jroncM, 


To  all  comraunioationfl  riioald  bt  alBaid  fti 

We  beff  leaTe  to  itato  fluift  wt  dadtot  to 
which.for  any  reaeoii,  we  do  not  pdati  aaito 
•zceptum. 

AUoommonleitioofduMdl  to 
a,  weUingtoB  State  WA 


4*  S.  IX.  April  13, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


293 


LONDON,  SATURDATy  APRIL  13. 1872. 


CONTENTS.--N'  224. 
NOTES :  —  The  Ruins  of  Metapontuin.  293  —  John  Dix.  the 
Biognphor  of  Chatterton,  2U4  —  Etimund  Kean,  2WJ  — 
Fleetwood  House,  Stoke  NfwinKtoii,  lb.—  Bonny  Clabber, 
lb,  —  EycH :  Miatake  of  Colour  by  Painters  —  CM)jecting  to 
killing  Pigs  by  the  waning  Moon  —  Snvere  Sentence  on  a 
Nonjuring  Clerevraan  —  Selling  a  Wife  —  Punishment  in 
172S  — Aworn  Joke —  "  Richmond  aiid  its  Libabitauts," 
1i»7. 

QUERIES :— Enclosure  of  Malvern  Chacc,  298— Anony- 
moua  — John  Augustua  Atkinson—  Miss  Balfour  — Bel- 
fries Blackened  -  Bell  Inscription  —  Bibh-s  —  Britton, 
Bretton.  BritUin,  Breton,  or  Britt«*n  —  Chinese  Vegetables 

—  St.  Peter's  Church,  Chester  — Collins  — Cotton  Ball  — 
Heraldic  —  John  Jackson.  R.A.— Ninian  Menvil  — Now- 
sham  House  —  Nursery  Ballad  —  Photographic  Printing— 
Prayw  of  Pius  IX.  for  France— Bed  Cro*s,  Hereford — 
"A  Residence  in  France"  —  Riwi  and  Pelli  —  Songs 

—  Sword  Exercise— Tennyson  — Vicar  of  Hell  — Cliarlea 
E.  Walker  —  Washington  Arms*  2»9. 

REPLIES:  —  Signs  on  Doorposts,  S02  ~  Passage  in  Chester- 
field. 803  —  Etymology  of  '*  Uarrowgate,"  lb.  —  Leadership 
of  the  House  of  Lords  in  1851  —  **  Nothing  can  come  from 
Nothing"  —  "Boyle's  Court  Guide"  —  Rev.  Anthony 
Dttvidson,  M.A.  —  One- Penny  —  The  Lord  Boqueki  — 
••  Assidua  Stilla  Saxum  excavat "  —  Senlac  —  Heron  or 
Heme—  Hotch  Pot— Divorce— To  -Progress"— Frtscoes 
•t  Fetcham  Park.  Leatherhead  —  Peltham  Family—  Who 
w«s  SirP.T.  circa  1649?-  Rev.  Mr.  Moultrie  — Custom 
formerly  existing  in  England  of  inviting  Prayer  for  the 
Builders  of  Bridges  —  Erlk5nig  —  *'  Nam  nihil  ebt  gem- 
mis,"  Ac.  —  "  Barley  "  —  Royal  Heads  on  Bells  —  Sun- 
DUl  Inscriptions.  Ac..  305. 

XTotet  OD  Books.  Ao. 


fintti. 

THE  RUINS  OF  METAPONTUM. 

In  passing  along  the  coast  of  Magna  Grseda  in 
the  south  of  Italy^  nothing  strikes  the  attention 
of  the  traveller  more  fordhly  than  the  utter  deso- 
lation that  has  come  upon  it  within  the  last  two 
thousand  years.    How  thickly  studded  with  cities 
it  most  have  been,  from  the  seventh  down  to  the 
first  century,  before  the  Christian  era!     There 
fltood  the  cities  of  Locri,  Caulonia;  Groton,  Sybaris, 
Heraclea^  and  Metapontum;  and,  of  aU  these, 
Croton  is  the  only  one  that  now  exists,  and  it  is 
contained  within  the  circuit  of  its  ancient  citadel. 
What  is  still  more  surprising  is,  that  no  modem 
cities  have  taken  the  place  of  the  ancient.    You 
find  small  villages  alons  the  coast,  and  around 
them  the  country  is  cultivated  to  some  extent; 
bat  the  silence  that  surrounds  you,  as  you  jog 
jdong    on  your  mule,  is    positively  oppressive. 
When  I  looked  down  from  the  precipitous  pass 
over  the  Apennines  leading  to  Locri,  I  was  struck 
by  this  want  of  population ;  and  still  more  so  as 
I  approached  the  ruins  of  Metapontum,  near  the 
mouth  of  the  Bradanus,  on  my  way  to  Taranto. 
Some  attempt  has  been  made  to  account  for  this 
decrease  of  population  by  the  malaria  that  infests 
the  whole  of  this  coast;  and,  no  doubt,  the  stag- 
nant water  that  now  exists  at  the  mouths  of  the 
mountain  stxeams,  which  fall  into  the  sea  alon? 
the  ooMt^  mnit  aeate  marsh  feyexs  and  dropsical 


complaints.  It  did  not  require  that  I  should  be 
told  that  this  was  the  case,  as  the  pale  emaciated 
faces  of  the  agricultural  labourers  whom  I  savr 
were  a  sufficient  index  of  the  state  of  the  atmo- 
sphere. The  nobility  of  Naples,  who  have  large 
estates  in  this  quarter,  administer  their  property 
by  means  of  agents ;  but  I  found  that  these  agents 
lived  in  some  distant  village  on  the  hills  during 
the  greater  part  of  the  year,  and  only  came  down 
during  the  day  to  attend  to  the  business  of  the 
property. 

hi  the  room  of  Sybaris,  of  which  I  have  before 
(4^  S.  iv.  269)  spoken^  it  may  be  said  that  Gas- 
sano  occupies   its   place   to  some  extent;    but 
Metapontum  is  utterly  desolate,  and  has  no  repre- 
sentative of  any  kind  except  a  large  ''  masseria  di 
Torre-a-Mare,"  which  serves  for  agricultural  pur- 
poses.   It  is  about  a  mile  from  the  sea  and  &oni 
the  mouth  of  the  Bradanus,  near  which  consider- 
able ruins  are  still  to  be  seen.    The  hills  recede 
here  for  a  considerable  distance,  and  between 
these  hills  and  the  shore  would  no  doubt  be  tho 
plains ;  so  rich,  that  the  inhabitants  of  Metapon- 
tum have  recorded  the  fact  on  their  coins  oy  a 
sheaf  of  com.     Of  its  history  little  is  known, 
except  that  it  was  one  of  the  most  opulent  of  the 
cities  of  Magna  Grsecia;  and  the  scene  of  the  last 
days  of  the  philosopher  Pythagoras,  who  is  be- 
lieved to  have  flourished  between  B.C.  540-510* 
His  house  was  consecrated  as  a  temple  of  Geres, 
and  his  tomb  was  still  to  be  seen  in  the  days  of 
Gicero,  B.C.  106-43.    There  is  some  appearance  of 
the  remains  of  a  large    building   near  a   spot 
called  *'  Ghiesa  di  Sansone,"  and  which  may  have 
been  the  Temple  of  Geres ;  and,  indeed,  I  could 
not  help  being  willing  to  believe  that  this  might 
be  the  exact  spot  where  the  philosopher  had 
passed  the  closing  scenes  of  his  hfe.    Uicero  (J)e 
Amicitidj  c.  4)  speaks  of  the  decayed  state  of  all 
the  cities  in  this  part  of  Italy  and  Pausanias 
(vi.  10),  who  lived  about  a.d.  180:    mentions 
Metapontum  as  being  in  his  time  completely  in 
ruins,  and  says  that  nothing  remained  of  it  but 
the  theatre  and  the  circuit  of  its  walls.     Both 
theatre  and  walls  have  crumbled  into  dust,  or  at 
all  events  I  saw  nothing  of  them. 

It  is  curious  that  neither  Gicero  nor  Pansanias 
should  have  referred  to  the  magnificent  temple, 
the  pillars  of  which  still  remain,  known  to  the 
inhabitants  as  the  '*  Tavola  di  Paladini."  It  must, 
I  imagine,  have  been  outside  of  the  city,  as  it  is 
situated  about  two  miles  up  the  river  Bradanus, 
on  its  right  bank.    It  is  a  striking  object  placed 
in  a  plain,  like  the  Temples  of  Psestum,  where  the 
human  voice  is  seldom  heard  except  when  some 
stray  traveller  like  myself  wanders  over  its  ruins. 
The  ground  on  which  it  stands  rises  somewhat 
from  the  plain,  so  that  the  pillars  are  seen  at  a 
considerable  distance;   and  when  you  approadi 
dose,  you  regret  to  find  that  Time  has  laid  a  hearj 


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hand  on  much  of  the  building.    The  two  ends  |  branches  of  the  poplar :  the  underwood  oonnstiiig 
have  altogether  disappeared,  with  the  whole  of  i  of  the  lentiscus,  thorn,  wild  vine,  oleander,  arbn- 


I  stopped  my  mule  to  gaze  with  delight  on 
such  another  scene  as  that  described  by  Ariosto, 
and  thought  that  the  bright  imagination  of  the 
poet  was  exceeded  by  the  reality  of  nature.  The 
wonderful  beauty  of  the  flowers  has  made  it  to 
be  supposed  that  the  gardens  of  the  inhabitants 
of  Heraclea,  situated  some  three  miles  distant,  must 
have  been  at  this  spot,  and  that  these  flowers 
had  been  thus  introauced.  Numerous  flowering 
creepers   hung  in    graceful    festoons   from    the 


the  entablature  above  the  architrave  and  the  walls 
of  the  cella.  Still  there  are  fifteen  columns,  ten 
on  one  side  and  five  on  the  other,  of  the  Doric 
order,  but  to  my  eye  scarcely  so  massive  as  those 
of  Psestum,  indeed  more  approaching  in  appear- 
ance to  the  columns  whicn  give  name  to  the 
"  Capo  di  Colonna "  (4»»»  S.  v.  416)  which  be- 
longed to  the  Temple  of  Juno  Ladnia. 

1  alluded  to  the  streams  in  this  direction,  and 
however  pestilential  may  be  their  stagnant  waters, 
nothing  could  exceed  the  beauty  of  their  banks. 
I  spoke  of  the  view  from  the  pinnacle  of  "  I  Scali  " 
(4"  S.  ix.  153),  of  which  your  correspondent 
P.  A.  L.  gives  us  so  vivid  a  description.  I  wish  that  , 
he  had  wandered  along  the  banks  of  the  Sinno,  | 
the  ancient  Siris,  that  we  might  have  had  some 
more  of  his  poetry  in  prose.    It  was  a  perfect  | 
paradise,  and  remmded  mo  of  some  of  Ariosto's 
descriptions,  such  as  the  arbour  in  Orlando  Fu- 
rioso  (vi.  20) — 

**  Xon  vide  nfe  '1  piii  bcl  ne  '1  piii  giocondo. 
Da  tatta  V  aria  ove  Ic  pcnne  stese, 
N^,  86  tutto  cercato  avesse  il  mondo, 
Vedria  di  qaesto  il  piii  gcntil  pa^se ; 
Ove,  dopo  un  girarsi  di  gran  tondo. 
Con  Raggier  seco  il  grande  augel  discese. 
Culte  pianure,  e  delicati  colli, 
Chiare  acque,  ombrosc  ripe,  o  prati  molli. 

"  Voghi  boschetti  di  soave  allori, 
Di  palme,  e  di  amenissime  mirtelle, 
Cedri,  ed  aranci,  che  avean  fnitti  e  fiori 
Contesti  in  varie  forme,  e  tntte  belle, 
Facean  riparo  ai  fervidi  calori 
De*  giomi  cati\n  con  lor  spesse  ombrelle ; 
£  tra  quci  rami  con  sicari  voli 
Cantando  se  ne  giano  i  rosignnoli.*' 

**  A  more  delightful  place,  wherever  hurPd 

Tlnroagh  the  whole  air,  Rogero  had  not  found ; 
And,  bad  he  ranged  the  aniversal  world. 

Would  not  have  fieen  a  lovelier  in  his  round 
Than  that  where,  wheeling  wide,  the  courser  furlM 

His  threading  wings  and  lighted  on  the  ground, 
'Mid  cultivated  plain,  delicious  hill,  i 

Moist  meadow,  shady  bank,  and  crystal  rill.  { 

Small  thickets,  with  the  scented  laurd  gay. 

Cedar  and  orange,  full  of  fruit  and  flower ; 
Myrtle  and  palm,  with  interwoven  spray, 

rleached  m  mixed  modes,  all  lovely,  form  a  bower; 
And,  breaking  with  their  shade  the  scorching  ray, 

Alake  a  cool  shelter  from  the  noontide  hour ; 
And  nightingales  among  those  branches  wing 

Their  flight,  and  safely  amorous  descants  sing." 


tus,  and  sweet  bay.     The  dwarf  oak  abonnSs 
everywhere  along  this  coast^  an^  the  liquorice 
plant  grows  wild  and  in  great  luxuriance.   It  was 
the  rich  plains  in  this  neighbourhood  that  occa- 
sioned many  wars  between  the  inhalntanta  of 
Tarentum  and  Sybaris,  and  which  induced  the 
latter  city  to  found  Metapontum,  in  order  that 
the  Tarentines  might  be  excluded  from  the  Siritet. 
I  have  no  doubt  that  the  nature  of  the  aoil  is  aa 
rich  and  productive  as  it  was  in  those  early  dayi^ 
but  there  is  no  population  to  turn  it  to  aocoont 
Towards  the  end  of  May  I  found  the  Siono  to  be 
a  considerable  stream^  and  we  know  that  in  an- 
cient times  it  is  said  to  have  been  navigable  fbr 
several  miles  into  the  interior.  I  passed  it  without. 
difiiculty  on  my  mule  about  a  mile  from  ita  mouth, 
and  I  am  certain  that  it  must  have  been  a  my 
flat-bottomed  boat  that  could  have  ascended  it 
I  attempted  to  penetrate  to  the  sea  along  its  kft 
bank ;  but  I  got  so  involved  in  raarshj  mmidf 
like  that  I  had  seen  at  Paestum,  that  I  gave 
it  up  in    desptair.     When  I  left  the  banks  cf 
the  Sinno,  which  were  certainly  very  beautifki^ 
the  appearance  of  the  country  no'  lonser  bean  aiijr 
resemolance  to  the  flowing  description  given  to 
it  by  the  poet  Archilochus,  who  asserts  that  then 
was  no  spot  more  lovely  than  the  country  lemid 
Siris.    His  words,  as  quoted  by  Athenieua  (nL 
52;i,  c),  are  the  following,  and  they  show  what 
the  state  of  the  district  was  B.C.  GOO:  — 

Ob  yap  Ti  KoXhs  X&ftotj  o&8*  i^tftMpoif 
OvS'  iparhi,  olos  ifJL^\  ^tpios  ln)6s, 

**  For  there  is  not  a  spot  on  earth  so  sweet,  lO  lof^i 
or  desirable,  as  that  which  is  around  the  streams  of  Siria' 

On  passing  the  river  Bradanus^  which  rises  sods 
flfty  miles  distant  at  the  foot  of  Mons  Voltnri  I 
came  down  upon  the  beach  of  the  Oulf  of  Tsiinto 
at  the  Torre  di  Matone.  flve-and-twenty  wSk^ 
on  a  warm  May  day,  with  the  sun  reflected  froB 
a  calm  sea,  and  hot  sand  without  water,  tried  A* 
resolution ;  and  it  was  not  without  a  feelutfof 
delight  that  I  got  a  Pisgah  view  of  the  castolbtoi 
towers  of  Taranto,  and  at  last  rested  my  mvtM 
limbs  under  the  hospitable  roof  of  the  Cavslki^ 
d'  Ayala.  Craxtfurd  Tait  Ruue^ 


JOHN   DIX,  THE  BIOGRAPHER  OF 
CHATTERTON. 


It  is  necessary  to  sometimes  nail  op  freah 
min  on  the  barn-door  of  infamy,  already  mS&atf^ 
crowded.  One  of  the  most  shameless  liteitiT 
forgers  of  the  present  century  was  John  Diz,  i^ 
John  Ross — a  man  who  wrote  a  Bhait  BfO  JJP 
of  Chatterton,  which  was  publisihed  in  Bristol  * 
1837.  This  writer,  who  many  yean  ago  I* 
to  America,  was  first  publicly  ezpned  w  tk^ 
acute  critic  Mr.  Moy  Thomas  in  Tk$  Ammi0^ 


4*  S.  IX.  April  18,  *72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


295 


of  Dec.  5f  1857,  when  Mr.  Thomas  proved  a  re- 
port of  the  proceedings  of  the  inquest  on  the  body 
of  Chatterton,  forwarded  by  this  Mr.  Dix  to  Mr. 
^J.  M.  Gutch  of  Worcester,  and  afterwards  pub- 
lished in  ''  N.  &  Q./'  to  be  a  shameless  and  badly 
invented  forgery.  Mr.  Thomas,  with  the  keen 
sagacity  that  distinguishes  him,  showed  that  ex- 
cept where  Mr.  Dix  follows  the  scanty  notes  of 
Warton,  or  that  not  very  scrupulous  literary 
adventurer,  Sir  Herbert  Croft  (himself  a  great 
mixer  of  truth  with  fiction,  vide  his  Love  and 
Madness,  his  spurious  and  absurdly  romantic  ima- 

S'nary  letters  of  the  Reverend  Mr.  Ilackman  and 
las  Reay,  the  mistress  of  the  Earl  of  Sandwich), 
he  was  always  inventing. 

Mr.  Dix,  in  the  aforesaid  report,  mentions  the 
'*  Three  Crows  "  in  Brooke  Street — a  public-house 
which  there  is  every  reason  to  suppose  never  ex- 
isted, and  he  makes  the  date  of  the  inquest  Friday, 
August  27, 1770,  when  it  happened,  unfortunately, 
to  be  a  Motidai/f  the  27th  or  that  year.  He  also 
makes  the  house  where  Chatterton  died  No.  17, 
whereas,  as  Mr.  Thomas  most  ingeniously  and 
convincingly  proved,  it  was  really  No.  39. 

In  reply  to  this  exposure,  Mr.  Dix,  still  in  re- 
tirement m  America,  wrote  a  letter  to  the  Boston 
Saturday  Evening  Gazette j  impudently  agreeing 
with  Mr.  Thomas  that  the  report  of  the  inquest 
was  a  fraud.    It  had  been  given  to  him,  he  said 
(credat  Judants)  by  the  late  Robert  Southey  at 
the  time  he,  Dix,  was  writing  the  Life  of  Chatter' 
ton.     Considering  it  unauthentic,  he,  Dix,  did  not 
use  the  copy  of  the  report  taken  by  him  from  the 
anonymous  document  returned  by  him,  or  said  to 
be  returned  by  him,  to  Southey,  who  was  then, 
^y-the-bye,  lying  in  a  quiet  place  where  no  per- 
ons  are  either  asked  or  answered. 
Mr.  Thomas,  in  a  second  letter  to  The  Athe* 
(mm,  January  28, 1858,  complained  with  natural 
iffer  that  Mr.  Dix  had  let  five  years  since  the 
lolication  of  the  report  elapse  without  explana- 
>n ;  and  also  that,  considering  the  document  a 
•gery,  he  gave  a  copy  of  it  without  comment 
Mr.  Gutch  of  Worcester;  moreover,  like  all 
'rary  men  of  London  or  Boston,  that  he  must 
^e  known  that    the  romantic  report  of   the 
uest  had  been  interwoven  into  an  elaborate 
y  on  Chatterton  by  Professor  Masson,  and  had 
\  made  the  basis  of  an  elaborate  pamphlet  on 
boy  poet  by  Dr.  Maitland. 
the  above-named  letter  Mr.  Dix  had  the 
elessness  to  almost  openly  avow  that  the 
lit  of  Chatterton  affixed  to  the  first  edition 
Life  was  also  a  forgery.     The  likeness  was 
taken  from  the  hydrocephalous  son  of  a 
ristol  printer  named  Morris  (?),  who  in  mere 
\  had  written  "  Chatterton  "  on  the  back  of 
*trait  and  sold  it  for  a  mere  song  to  a  Bristol 
From  him  it  reached  Dix,  wh^^  instantly 
r  at  it.  had  it  engraved.     No  authentic 


portrait  of  Chatterton  exists,  and  in  Dix*8  edition 
of  1851  the  likeness  was  left  out.  It  took,  it  ap- 
pears, Mr.  Dix  years  to  discover  this  fact  about 
the  portrait,  which  was  known  to  several  Bristol 
people  the  very  year  of  Dix's  publication. 

After  these  disclosures,  how  can  we  place  any 
reliance  on  the  Chatterton  traditions  in  Dixa 
book  P  How  can  we  credit  the  doubtful  and 
miserable  verses  found  after  the  poet's  death,  the 
legend  of  his  body  being  carried  secretly  to  Bristol 
and  buried  in  Reddifi^  churchyard,  or  even  the 
pretty  story  of  the  poet  when  a  mere  child,  on 
being  asked  what  device  he  would  have  painted 
on  a  mug,  exclaiming,  with  the  fire  of  genius 
"  Paint  me  an  angel  with  wings  and  a  trumpet, 
to  trumpet  my  name  over  the  world.'* 

Indeed  in  this  last  almost  too  good  story  I  think 
I  detect  a  Dix  flavour.  Dreadful  doubts  also  come 
into  my  mind  about  the  appendix  to  the  Life, 
'*  Commimicated  by  G.  Cumberland,  Esq.,"  tnat 
once  used  to  delight  me,  and  which  pretends  to 
be  notes  of  conversations  with  the  scholars  and 
friends  of  Chatterton's  mother,  written  down  as 
early  as  1808.  I  doubt  half  the  letter^  even 
the  interesting  anecdote  (too  interesting,  I  fear) 
about  how  the  boy  forger  used  to  lock  himself  in  a 
back  room  and  in  Kedcliife  church  with  old  parch- 
ments, and  reappear  with  hands  and  face  begrimed 
with  ochre  and  charcoal.  The  career  so  gallantly 
commenced  by  Dix  in  1837  was  continued  some- 
what subterraneanly.  In  1846  the  noble  exile 
produced  Local  Loiterings  and  Visits  in  Boston,  hf 
a  Looker  on.  We  cannot  trace  him  again  in  his 
dark  windings,  till  1847,  when  the  Bristol  Mu- 
seum cataloguer  notes  John  Dix,  author  of  The 
Poor  Orphan,  as  the  printer  or  author  of  Jack 
Ariel,  or  Life  on  Board  an  Indiaman,  This  book 
reached  a  second  edition  in  1852,  and  a  third  edi- 
tion in  1859.  The  last  edition  has  on  the  title- 
page,  "By  the  author  of  Travels  in  America**— 9k 
work  not  catalogued  at  the  British  Museum.  In 
1850  appeared  a  book  full  of  most  impudent 
fabrications,  called  Pen-and-ink  Sketches  of  Emi- 
nent English  Literary  Perswiages,  by  a  Cosmo^' 
politan ;  in  1852  he  produced  A  Ham&ook  to  New- 
port  and  Rhode  Island,  and  the  same  year  a  work 
of  imagination,  still  more  slovenly  than  usual,  and 
called  Liofis  Living  and  Dead — a  book  abounding 
in  mistakes  of  all  kinds,  and  full  of  imaginary 
conversations  between  the  author,  Coleridge,  Haz- 
litt,  &c.  According  to  the  author*s  own  account, 
he  was  actually  present  when  Shelley  tried  to 
induce  an  old  gentleman  at  Ilampstead  to  take 
care  of  a  poor  woman  whom  the  poet  had  found 
fainting  in  the  streets.  Thom,  the  weaver  poet, 
who  had  befriended  Dix,  is  cruelly  maligned. 
Altogether  the  work  is  below  contempt  In  1853 
Dix  wrote  a  feeble  book  which  he  named  Passages 
from  the  Diary  of  a  Wasted  Life,  but  which  is 
little  more  than  a  fulsome  euloirv  /-*  '' 


296 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


«  [4*  &  IX.  Apul  It^  TIL 


can  temperance  orator,  Mr.  John  B.  Gou^.  In 
1654  this  miserable  man  produced  Pen*  lectures 
of  didingtUshed  American  Divines^  and  probably 
not  long  after  died,  for  he  has  since  that  forged  no 
more. 

In  his  Liwis  Living  and  Dead,  Dix  says  of 
Bristol  that  ^'  It  is  a  place  which  has  damned 
more  talent  than  perhaps  any  other  place  in  Queen 
Victoria's  dominions.  I  speaJr  strongly,  but  I  do  so 
"with  all  my  heart  and  soul."  There  writes  the 
exile  of  a  city  which  had  seen  his  disgrace.  It 
is  as  well  that  American  literary  men  should 
Imow  how  miserably  unreliable  are  the  imaginary 
conyersations  of  this  literary  chevalier  d^indugtrie, 
who  has  muddied  so  many  subjects  with  wilful 
imtruths. 

It  is  curious  to  see  how  lies  breed  lies.  As 
Ikfacpherson  led  to  Chatterton,  so  Chatterton  was 
followed  by  Dix.  It  is  to  the  eternal  disgrace  of 
this  John  Dix,  alias  John  Ross,  that  he  has  con- 
fused, entangled,  and  corrupted  the  subject  of 
Chatterton's  life  in  such  a  way  that  only  the  last 
day  can  eyer  set  it  right. 

Walter  THomraxraT. 


EDMUND  KEAN. 


The  Manchester  Guardian  of  October  18,  1870, 
published  the  following ;  — 

"An  Unpublished  Witticism  of  Edmund  Kenn.  We 
saw  a  few  clays  ago  a  road-book,  now  the  property  of  a 
gentleman  in  this  city,  which  formerly  belonged  to  Ed- 
mund Kean.  On  the  tiy-leaves  before  the  title-page  Kean 
bad  copied  in  ink  the  following  epitaph,  which  he  had 
probably  seen  in  some  country  churchyard : — 

'Beneath  this  tomb  hi^. mangled  body  laid. 
Cut,  stabbed,  and  murder'd  by  Joshua  Slade, 
His  ghastly  wounds  a  horridsight  to  see, 
And  hurried  at  once  into  eternity. 
What  faults  youVe  seen  In  him  take  care  to  shun; 
And  look  at  home,  enough  there's  to  be  done. 
Death  doeii  not  always  warning  give. 
And  therefore  bo  careful  how  vuu  live.* 

**  To  this  Kean  has  added,  in  pencil,  the  following  witty 
lines: — 

*  Worse,  worse  than  Slade,  thou  murderer  of  verse ; 
Deserving  more  than  he  the  culprit's  hearse : 
Slade  killed  the  living,  perhaps  by  hunger  led  ; 
You,  by  your  doggerel,  have  damned  the  dead.' " 

Tnos.  Ratcliffe. 


FLEETWOOD  HOUSE,  STOKE  NEWINGTON. 

I  this  day,  m  company  with  a  friend,  went  over 
the  old  house  on  the  north  side  of  Church  Street, 
Stoke  Newington,  which  was  once  the  residence 
of  Lieutenant-General  Fleetwood.  Here  he  spent 
the  last  years  of  his  life,  and  here  he  died.  The 
honse  is  now  about  to  be  pulled  down  to  make 
way  for  a  now  street,  and  is  already  partially  dis- 
mantled. It  is  an  Elizabethan  or^^acobean  man- 
flion.  Robinson,  in  his  History  of  Stoke  NetDtngton, 


asjs  it  is  supposed  to  have  been  built  in  the 
end  of  the  reign  of  Queen  Elizabeth.    The  oosi  of 
arms  mentioned  by  Robinson  in  his  aoconat  of  tib 
house  we  saw  lying  in  plaster  umniured  on  tki 
floor,  haying  been  removed  from  the  ceiliBg  of 
one  of  the  rooms :  it  is  the  coat  of  the  Hiztofps 
and  not  of  Fleetwood,  as  Robinson  says.    nom» 
Cooke,  Esq.,  a  Turkey  merchant,  occupied  th» 
house  early  in  the  last  century ;  and  on  one  of  the 
panes  in  an  upper  window  the  following  wovil 
appear  written  in  a  go6d  hand  with  a  diamond— 
'^  I  came  into  this  house  to  live  12^  Deeemta^ 
1728.  Elizabeth   Cooke."     This  Elizabeth   im 
daughter  of  Sir  Nathaniel  Gkinld  (who  also  liTed 
in  Fleetwood  House)  by  Frances,  daughter  of  Sr 
John  Hartopp.   The  house  is  fbll  of  reminisoflnoet 
of  the  Puritans.    From  the  intimate  frieodahu 
existing  between  Sir  John  Hartopp  (who  livM 
here  for  many  years)  and  the  celelntit^  Dr.  Jofel 
Owen,  it  is  more  than  probable  that  he  was  a  ft** 
quent  guest  in  this  mansion ;  and  aa  we  pami 
in  and  out  of  the  numerous  apartments,  we  peMi 
ourselves  with  the  thought  that  we  were  pethapi 
pacing  a  chamber  that  had  onee  witnowed  tti 
prayers  and  meditations  of  that  great  maitar  of 
the  human  heart,  the  Puritan  Owen.    The  hatm 
was  divided  into  two  in  Ihe  last  eentory ;  it  oa^ 
tains  on  the  whole  about  rixty  roomii    WeolK 
served  some  remains  of  paneUinff,  and  ai  eflif 
example  of  a  sashed  window.    IVothing  ifpMB 
to  be  known  of  the  histoiy  of  this  intsmtt^ 
place  of  residence  before  its  ooeupatian,  rtvnt  Iht 
time  of  the  Restoration,  by  Dame  Maxr  IIiitoeB> 
widow  of  Sir  Edward  Hartopp,  mamed  in  tm 
earlypart  of  1G64  to  Genend  Fleet^raod.    Bit 
was  Fleetwood's  third  wife,  and  in  oonacqiweB  d 
this  marriage  [he  came  to  recdde  at  Stohe  Nav* 
ington.  S.  i^BHOCT. 

Tumham  Green,  April  8, 1872. 


BONNY  CLABBER. 


When  I  made  my  last  commnmoatan  li 
<'  N.  &  Q."  I  thought  my  days  were  namtaaft 
but  the  spring  has  revived  me  along  with  al 
nature,  and  I  present  the  reader  inth  thia  U^ 
fruit  of  my  revivescence.  It  is  the  expLanstiaBrf 
a  word  which  is  enrirely  Irish  in  ita  origniy  vi 
which  is  to  be  found  in  J3en  Jonaon  and  otiwr  fU 
writers,  and  has  never  been  explained.  The  btfl 
attempt  is  "  sour  buttermilk,"  the  womt  ^  a  latt- 
seous  mixture  of  it  and  beery" — this  kit  Ikp* 
was  hardly  known  in  Ireland  at  the  time.  I  oak 
I  can  offer  a  better  than  ^^*^er;  for  wUoh  par* 
pose  I  must  saj  a  few  woi  jieqieetiiig  the  nak* 
mg  of  bntter  m  the  eas  eoutiea  at  belfffc 
Morning  and  evenine  t«i«  uwwa  n  nriftnd,  tfi 
when  the  milk  which  ia  nae  Hiij  te  iflmMi . 
consumpduu  has  been  taken  i  iw, 
is  strained  into  lai^  en         imn  it 


«*  S.  n.  Ana.  18, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


S97 


until  sufficiently  add  for  chnming;  it  la  tbea 
poiured  into  the  chum,  hot  water  added,  and  the 
cjianiing  commenced.  There  10  always  found  at 
the  bottom  of  the  crock  a  sediment,  as  I  may  call 
it,  which  is  not  nut  into  the  chum,  and  is  of  a 
jdeasaat  sub-acia  taste  very  agreeable  to  the 
palate.  This  is  called  "  crock  bottom,''  and  I  think 
in  Irish  heunna  dabbery  whence  the  English  term 
*' bonny  clabber,'' that  is,  "milk  mud"  —  a  very 
expresnve,  if  not  a  venr  elegant  term,  for  it  lies 
at  the  bottom  of  a  crock  as  mud  at  the  bottom  of 
a  pooL  As  for  sour  buttermilk,  the  only  name  I 
ever  knew^for  it  was  "  cut-throat,"  from  its  great 
acidity ',  but  even  that  is  not  very  bad. 

Thos.  Kbightusy. 

P.S.  I  entirely  agree  with  Pelaqius  in  what 
he  says  about  the  echo  in  Milton's  poetry.  When 
I  was  writing  my  notes  I  thought  the  matter  too 
plain  to  require  one;  I  now  see  that  it  can  be 
xniaunderstood. 

Will  Mr.  Sebat  be  so  kind  as  to  inform  me  if 
any  one  of  the  terms  in  the  northern  languages 
which  he  says  are  akin  to  the  Anglo-Saxon  code, 
18  to  be  found  in  the  elder  or  poetic  Edda  P  for  if 
they  are  only  in  the  younger  Edda  or  the  Sagas, 
they  may  be  derived  from  the  Anglo-Saxon,  or 
even  from  the  English,  like  the  Welsh  words 
which  he  gives  as  one  of  the  terms  adopted  from 
the  EngUsn,  like  so  many  others  adopted  both  by 
the  Welsh  and  Irish.  Thus,  an  Irishman  will 
call  his  great-coat  a  cota  mor.  Coat  seems  to  be 
only  a  form  of  coda  (covering,  envelope),  as  we 
talK  of  a  coat  of  paint,  lime,  manure,  &c.  The 
French  coUe  would,  therefore,  come  from  the 
£nfflish,  not  the  reverse;  redingote  (riding-coat) 
is  uie  French  for  a  great-coat.  T.  K. 


ErES:  Mistake  of  Colour  by  Paintebs. — 
The  writer  of  the  interesting  article  on  the  Na- 
tional Portrut  Gallery  (Compan,  to  the  Almanaek^ 
1871,  p.  142),  states  that  the  doubt  thrown  on  the 
senuineness  of  the  Eraser  Tytler  portrait  of  Mary 
Queen  of  Scots  arose  from  the  colour  of  the  eyes. 
^  Thomas  Lawrence  made  a  coloured  crayon 
portrait  of  my  grandfather,  whose  eyes  were 
almost  blue :  they  were  grey,  and  ho  drew  them 
as  hazel-brown.  He  also^  oddly  enough,  made  a 
amilar  error  in  another  drawing,  when  the  eyes 
were  clear  bright  grey.  These  errors  were  noticed 
by  many  persons  when  the  drawings  and  the  sub- 
jeetB  of  them  were  in  the  same  room.  T.  F. 

Usk. 

OB/aomra  to  killino  Pigs  by  the  waning 
Moon.  —  A  correspondent  of  yours  asks  for  the 
xeaion  why  some  coqntry  people  think  the  fat 
will  waste  in  the  pot  if  they  kill  their  pigs  by 
the  waning  moon.  I  suppose  it  is  for  the  same 
tliat  the  people  of  Iceland  will  not  cut 


their  hair  by  a  waning  moon,  saying  that  if  ibcr^ 
do  so,  the  remaining  crop  will  fall  off;  bni  if 
they  cut  it  while  the  moon  is  increasing,  it  wilt 
grow.  I  suppose  it  is  on  the  same  principle  thafc 
they  sav  that  there  will  be  more  blood  from  the 
sheep  (of  which  they  make  black  puddings)  if 
killed  when  the  tide  is  running  out.  They  a)af> 
build  their  chimneys  while  the  tide  is  runmag 
out,  to  prevent  them  from  smoking.  But  if  tliej 
build  them  while  the  tide  is  running  in,  they  mx 
the  smoke  is  sure  to  spread  over  the  house  ani 
never  to  go  out  by  the  chimney.  The  door  of  a 
sheep-pen  must,  according  to  their  ideas,  be  buiH 
while  the  tide  is  running  in,  or  else  it  will  be 
impossible  to  make  the  sheep  enter  it. 

J(5n  a.  UjaitaiJn* 
Advocates'  Library,  Edinbai^b. 

Sevebb  Sbntbncb  on  a  NoNJiTBiNO  Clswt- 

MAN,  Feb.  10, 1736.^ 

**  On  Thursday  last  Mr.  Nixon,  the  nonjarioj^  c]em^- 
man,  was  brought  from  Newgate  to  the  King^s  Beoi^. 
Westminster:,  to  receive  jud^pnent  on  his  late  coDvie- 
tion,*  when  the  court  was  pleased  to  give  the  followin^p 
sentence— viz. :  That  he  should  walk  round  Westminstir 
Hall  with  a  paper  on  his  head  denoting  his  ofTenoe;  to 
pay  a  fine  of  one  hundred  marks ;  to  be  imprisoued  im 
the  King's  Bench  for  five  years,  and  to  give  securitv  Ite 
his  good  behaviour  during  the  remainder  of  his  life. 

Anon. 

Seluno  a  Wife. — The  following  instance  oT 

wife-selling  is  recorded  in  the  Lmcoln,  JRvikmi^ 

and  Stamford  Mercury  for  March  21 : — 

**  At  Hull  police-oonrt  on  Fridav,  James  McMahoo.waa 
charged  with  assaulting  John  Mills.  It  appeared  that 
defendant  bought  of  her  husband  for  2«.  6d.  a  yoww 
woman  named  Bottomley.  The  complainant,  who  1mm 
known  the  woman  from  childhood,  having  been  born^  Id 
the  same  village,  tried  to  persuade  her  from  enterini^ 
upon  such  a  disgraceful  contract.  Defendant  thereupc» 
knocked  him  down,  and  struck  him  when  he  was  down. 
Not  content  with  that,  he  seemed  to  be  entirely  withoot 
any  sense  of  decency,  and  actually  when  he  was  in  cwul 
seemed  to  be  unaware  that  he  had  committed  an  offence 
against  decency  and  morality  as  well  as  against  the  law. 
He  appeared  to  be  under  the  impression  that  he  was  the 
aggrieved  individual,  and  that  the  complainant  had  no 
right  to  try  to  persuade  the  woman  from  doing  what  she 
was  about  to  do.  The  defendant  was  fined  50«.  and  costa."^ 

K.  P.  D.  El 

Punishment  in  1728. — The  sentence  pasaed 
hy  the  Lords  of  Council  and  Session  on  Joh» 
Currie  is  as  follows : — To  be  whipt  through  the^ 
city  of  Edinburgh ;  to  stand  with  his  ears  nailed 
to  the  pillory ;  to  be  transported  to  his  majesly'a 
plantations ;  and  if  he  ever  returns,  to  be  for  ever 
imprisoned  in  the  Tolbooth,  and  to  be  puUiolj 
scourged  through  Edinburgh  on  the  first  Wednes- 
day in  every  quarter. 

What  would  be  said  of  such  a  punishment  Id 
these  days,  when  the  cat  is  so  sparingly  used — even 
upon  the  most  brutal  criminals  P  H.  W.  IX. 

*  Bdore  Lofd  Chief  Jnitice  Hardwieke. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4>»S.IX.i 


M.a,iz 


■  When  the  b^g«r  woaiul  up  «D  appeal  to  TalUvranil 

a  the  declaialion,  that '  a  mao  must  live,'  the  diplom*- 
1;  replied  that  he  did  not  see  Ihe  ae<»wity."— Sofuriii  u 
Stcitu,  March  23, 1872,  p.  371. 

WTwn  orator  Henley  was  brought  before  thi' 
Privy  Coundl,  he  mftde  the  aame  excuse  and 
necLvcd  the  same  answer:  "That,"  said  Henley, 
"is  a  good  thing,  but  haa  been  said  before."  I 
Iiave  read  this  anecdote  often,  but  cannot  lemeui- 
ber  where.  I  believe  the  "  good  thing "  is  at 
leaBt  as  old  as  tbe  time  of  Louis  XIIL,  and  I  crave 
oaaistance  in  tracing-  it.  FtTznoPKUja, 

Gurick  Ctuli. 

"  ItiCHifoXD  ASD  ITS  IsiiJiBrTAiTTs."—r  lately 
pnrchaaed  a  somewhat  prctenttoua  book,  entitled 
Michmoad  and  its  Inhabifaiit»  from  the  Olden 
Timr,  publiBhed  at  Milton  House,  Ludpite  Hill, 
ID  1600  (I  need  not  be  more  particular).  On 
pp.  312-210  are  given  what  purport  to  be  extracts 
tram  the  parish  registers  of  tticbmond,  and  beioK^  j 
then  engaged  in  eianiiniDg  those  registers,!  tested  , 
their  accuracy.  Out  of  the  entire  number  given  I 
there  are  not  more  than  half  a  dozen  that  are  ' 
correct.  All  the  others  are  full  of  the  most  egre-  ; 
|ious  blunders,  either  as  to  dates  or  names,  show-  , 
ing  conclusively  that  the  person  who  made  the  i 
eitracta  was  utterly  incapable  of  reading  the  old  | 
writing  of  the  registers.  The  following  mny  bs  I 
adduced  aa  the  culmination  of  the  series  of  blun-  . 
dering.  The  printed  volume  reads:  "Elizabeth 
Hason,  At»  lama-,''  while  the  original  is  dbtinctly 
*  Eliiabeth  Msson  sts  [alias]  Tanner."  I  need 
Bot  auggest  the  moral  to  be  deduced  from  these 
iactB.  ^^___  J-  ^'  C-    i' 

EXCLOSUKE  UF  MALVF.RS  CIIACE. 
Some  of  the  renders  of  "N.  &  Q."  who  have  1 
ascended  the  Worcestershire  lioacon  at  Oreat 
MalTem  may  be  surprised  to  hear  that  the  summit 
•f  the  hill  has  been  recently  enclosed,  and  several 
Qgly  buildings  greeted  there  by  a  local  speculator  | 
«od  photographer,  for  refreshment  and  photogra- 
phic rnams,&c.;  and  lam  told  that  oven  acroquet  i 
ground  ia  to  be  laid  out,  thus  utterly  spoiling  tbe 
BNtural  aspect  of  tbe  spot.     It  was  always  sup-  ! 

toscd  that  the  greater  portion  of  these  noble  hilts, 
eing  included  in  Jlalveni  Chace,  could  not  be 
enclosed  according  to  the  compact  made  with  tbe 
commoners  by  Ciiarlos  I.,  whereby  the  king  was 
empowered  to  sell  onc-tltird  of  the  lands  included 
'~   ''  e  Chace,  and  the  other  portion   was  to  te- 


lain  unenclosed  for  the  u 


:  ol  the 


This  agreement  or  decree  by  which  the  Chace 
was  disaffiirested,  8th  Charles  I.,  was  ratiticd  and 
confirmed  by  Act  of  Parliament,  lOtb  Charlts  II., 
and  it  ia  recited  in  Nash's  Worcttttrahire  (vol.  I) 


'  under  "Forests."     I  cannot  find,  homnr,  117 
description  or  boundary  ^ven  of  the  thiid  pait 
taken  for  the  king's  benefit,  and  sold  or  nutad 
away  by  him,     I  understand  on  inquiry  that  tha 
photographer  mentioned  has  taken  a  lea«e  of  thiw 
acres  of  land,  which  unfortunately  indadai  tka 
I  summit  of  tbe  Worcestershire  Beactm,  from  J.  T. 
I  Ilomyhold,  Esq.,  of  Blackmore  Park,  who  ^^nt 
I  a  slip  of  land  extending  from  the   weatem,  or 
Mathon  base  of  the  Beacon,  to  the  very  top  td  As 
hill,  tbe  boundary  between  the  pariahsa  of  Gnat 
Malvern  and   Methon,  being  a  little  below  tla 
summit  eastward. 
I      Having   written   a   history  of  MalTera  Chan 
I  for  the  Transactiom  of  Ike  Afatvem    rfilflll  aftflf 
CVui,  I  am  desirous  to  know  if  any  record  or  pin 
'  exists  of  "  tbe  third  part  of  the  Chace  "  acdd  Vf 
.  Charles  I.,  and  whether  it  lay  in  coDtigui^  or  u 
I  separate  pieces ;  and  if  the  latter,  where  dnig- 
natedP    In  Dr. Thomas's ..intt';.  iVutr.  ^19'.  JM, 
"  the  thirds  "  are  nominally  placed  in  tha  Vidoitf  , 
of  Blackmore  Park,  but  not  clearly  defined.    A^ 
cording  to  Drs.  Thomas  and  Na^,  the  aruiod 
grant  of  the  third  part  was  to  Sir  Robert  BbA 
id  Sir  Cornelius  Vermuyden ;  but  whenj^he  Act 
Parliament  was 
stated  that  it  hod 
I  Nicholas  Strode,  of  the  Inner  Templ«^  K^^ 
I  and  ihe  reit  in  ffcrefordtbtre  being  then  in  tha 
hands  of  John  Birche  and  WilUut  ThaAwa^ 
f^ntlemen."    I  want  to  know  whera  it  eta  ba 
found  to  whom  Strode  devised  tbe  Womita^ 
xbire  part  of  the  thirds,  and  what  becama  of  "tki 
rest    in   Herefordshire."      Some  plus  or  aarrwl 
'  must  have  been  originally   made  de^ 

thirds,  and  may  yet  be  in  existence. 

no  allusion  anywhere  to  the  summit  of  the  W<^ 
cestershire  Beacon  now  enclosed,  and  which,  ulw 
part  of  tbe  thirds,  ought  to  have  remainad  OfM 
to  the  commoners,  as  Mathon  pariah  waa  iwl"" 
in  Malvern  Chace.  The  dean  and  ch^tac  «f 
Westminster  are  now  lorda  of  the  inaBO  </ 
Mnthon ;  but  in  the  act  of  diaaffineatation  At 
<^nly  mention  mode  of  manorial  righta  U,  "ttatlO 
mean  lords  of  manors,  or  other  freeholdera,  ihodi 
''nclose  any  part  of  the  same  [the  Ghaee^  or  Ul 
.iny  woods  or  trees  growing  thereon,  whereby  tkl 
rommons  micrht  be  hindered  of  tliMi  eatoTCHi' 
Thus  lords  of  manors  (if  any)  are  treated  oaljll 
simple  commoners,  and  if  thajhadno  oQiermUl 
when  the  disafTorestation  of  Ue  Ghace  tc^  pW4 
I  wish  to  know  how  they  could  aaanme  npnte 
privileges  to  other  commoners  aAerwaida.  Whw 
the  earlaof  Warwick  were  lords  rf  die  Chacattti 
abbots  of  WestntioBter  and  Perahcne,  aad  tt> 
priors  of  Great  and  Uttle  MalTmn  ware  "IM 
suitors"  to  his  court.  What  did  ^ia  title  bM) 
and  did  manorial  righta  accraa  thatel^F 

Green  Htll  Sumniit,  WoremtOB,  '  ' 


4*  a  IX.  April  13, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


299 


Akontvous. — Who  is  the  author  of  Antonio 
Foscartnif  a  historic  drama,  1836,  Edward  Ball 
publisher  ?  The  play  is  dedicated  by  the  author 
to  his  aunt,  the  Countess  Annibale  Vimercati. 
Among  the  subscribers  to  the  book  are,  his  excel" 
lency  Comit  Annibale  Vimercati,  Earl  Clanwil- 
liam.  Earl  of  Chesterfield,  Earl  of  Pembroke  (four 
copies),  &c.  &c  Was  Count  A.  Vimercati  am- 
bassador from  any  of  the  Italian  courts  in  1836  ? 
And  was  the  Countess  Vimercati  a  native  of  this 
country? 

Who  is  the  author  of  Jephtha,  a  drama  in  two 
acts,  1821  ?  The  dramatis  pcrsoncB  are  Jephtha^ 
Naamah  his  daughter,  &c.  &c. 

Who  are  authors  or  compilers  of  the  librettos 
of  the  following  oratorios  ? — The  Triumph  o/Faith^ 
music  by  F.  Ries,  produced  in  Dublin  about  1830. 
Abraham^  an  oratorio,  music  by  Molique,  1860,  in 
German  and  English.  Who  is  the  author  of  the 
German  libretto,  and  by  whom  was  it  translated  ? 

R.  Inglis. 

John  Augustus  Atkinson. — What  is  known 
of  this  caricaturist  ?  He  published  in  1807  a  clever 
series  of  illustrations  of  **  The  Miseries  of  Human 
life  "  somewhat  in  the  style  of  Rowlandson,  but 
without  his  coarseness  and  vulgarity.  P.  P. 

Miss  Balfour,  a  lady  of  Belfast,  is  author  of 
Hope,  and  other  Poems,  Belfast,  1810.  I  have 
seen  an  anonymous  play  of  which  she  is  said  to 
be  also  the  autho^,  entitled  Kathleen  O'Niel,  which 
was  performed  at  Belfast,  and  published  in  1814. 
Can  any  of  your  readers  tell  me  whether  the 
authoress  was  a  native  of  Ireland,  or  give  any 
information  regarding  her  ?  I  do  not  remember 
to  have  seen  her  Poems,  R.  Inglis. 

Beltbies  Blackened. — Can  anyone  say  why 
some  of  the  City  churches  have  the  belfries  black- 
ened ?  1  have  a  faint  impression  of  having  read 
that  these  are  the  churches  which  were  not  de- 
stroyed in  the  great  fire  of  London.  N.  S. 

Bell  Inscription. — I  am  in  possession  of  an 
old  bell  about  eight  inches  high,  surmounted  by  a 
fiffure  of  Bacchus  astride  on  a  barrel.  The  name 
of  Fredrik  Lakenman  is  engraved  on  it,  followed 
by  a  shield  with  arms.  All  round  it  are  engraved 
tie  words  '*A°  1719— ian  crans,"  followed  bv 

"  DESE  KLANK  ROEPT   OMDRANK."      Is  this  Dutcn 

or  Flemish,  and  what  does  it  mean  ? 

TiNTINNABULUM. 

[Datch  and  Flemish  heing  almost  identical,  the  inscrip- 
tion on  the  bell  mav  be  assigned  to  either  language.  The 
literal  translation  is,  "This  sound  (clink)  summons  to 
drinking.*'  Omdrcmk  should  be  written  in  two  words, 
om  drank.^ 

Bibles. — Will  any  one  kindly  furnish  me  with 
a  little  further  information  respecting  the  fol- 
lowing ?  vii. — 

1.  In  one  volame,  The  Prayer-Book,  Psalter  or 
PtelniB  '*  pointed  as  they  axe  to  be  sung  or  said 


in  Churches."  The  order  for  the  services  for 
Nov.  6,  Jan.  80,  and  May  29,  is  by  « Marie  K. 
Given  at  our  Court  Oct  6,  1692/'  and  signed 
'*  Nottingham."  The  Old  Testament,  The  Apo- 
crypha, The  New  Testament,  "  newly  translated 
1695."  The  Psalms  "in  English  Metre,  by 
Sternhold.  Hopkins,  and  others,"  and  the  Lord's 
Prayer,  Creed,  Commandments,  Te  Deum  (the 
first  of  these  is  by  D.  Cox),  and  several  other 
pieces  turned  into  verse.  It  appears  to  have  beeir 
originally  in  8vo,  but  to  have  oeen  rebound  aod 
recut.  The  Old  and  New  Testament  have  short 
marginal  notes  and  numerous  references.  Is  not 
this  date  a  rather  early  instance  of  notes  and  mar* 
ginal  references  ?  It  is  in  small  but  very  eood 
clear  type  by  Bill  and  Newcomb  on  ike  New 
Testament  title-page,  but  the  first  one  is  missing;. 
2.  In  folio : — 

^'An  Illustration  of  the  Holy  Bible,  containing  the 
sacred  text  of  the  Old  and  New  Testament,  together  witlk 
the  Apocrypha.  The  notes  and  comments  are  sdected 
from  the  best  annotators,  whereby  the  sublime  paseagw 
are  pointed  out,  and  some  mis-trcaulatiofu  rectified.  Stair 
ford.    Printed  by  Nicholas  Boden,  1772." 

Of  the  Apocrypha  it  states  on  the  title-pag* 
that  'Hhe  oifficult  passages  are  elucidated,  and 
the  seeming  contradictions  (which  frequently  oc^ 
cur)  reconciled."  Stafibrd,  Printed  by  Sarah 
Boden,  1776. 

On  title-page  of  New  Testament  it  states  — 
'' Birmingham :  Printed  at  the  Verulam  Press 
by  N.  Boden  and  T.  Anpleby.  1770."  The  artists' 
names  are — Wanloo,  C.  Vanloo,  Le  Brau,  Jouve- 
net,  Le  Moine,  and  Domenichino ;  the  engravers 
C.  Grignion  and  Westwood.  The  illustration  of 
^  Susanna  and  the  Elders ''  (at  a  fountdn)  is 
without  artist's  name,  but  is  engraved  by  West- 
wood.  Under  one  engraving  are  the  words 
**  engraved  for  Boden's  and  Adams's  Bible.''  The 
notes  are  numerous  and  copious,  generally  with- 
out the  author*s  name,  though  some  are  extracts 
from  the  works  of  Grotius,  Locke,  and  Shaftes* 
bury,  and  it  has  a  good  index  at  the  end. 

C.  Chattogt. 

Castle  Bromwich. 

Britton,  Bretton,  Brittain,  Bretoit,  OS 
Britten. — I  should  feel  much  obliged  if  some  of 
your  correspondents  could  enlighten  me  as  to  the 
origin,  meaning,  derivation,  and  first  settlement  in 
England  of  the  family  or  families  which  bear  the 
above  names,  and  which,  as  Mr.  Britton,  the  anti- 
quary, assures  us,  have  one  common  origin.  Mr. 
Britton  seems  to  point  out  the  original  name  as 
being  Le  Breton,  and  this  name  is  found  in  the 
"  Hundred  Rolls,"  temp.  Edw.  11. ;  and  I  believe 
there  was  a  Sir  John  le  Breton  who  held  property 
at  Baxted  about  tetnp.  Ilichard  II.  There  is,  1 
observe,  a  place  called  ''Brittons"  near  Da^en- 
ham,  and  a  "  Britton  Ferry  ^  in  Wales.  Can  either 
of  these  places  have  any  connection  with  the 


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[4th  S.  IX.  Ann.  18,  "71 


CMQt  seat  of  the  family?  I  believe  there  is  a 
fedififree  in  the  British  Museum  relating  to  the 
ikmSjf  but  I  have  not  examined  it 

There  was  a  law  writer,  who  is  still  sometimes 
referred  to,  of  the  name  of  Britton  in  temp, 
£dw.  I.  or  II.  Who  was  he,  and  what  is  known 
of  his  family  ? 

The  name  of  Le  Breton  is  well  known  in  France, 
and  if  the  name  Britton,  Bretton  is  to  be  traced 
therGto,  it  clearly  indicates  that  Brittany  must  be 
the  nest  from  which  the  family  or  families  sprung. 
ICadame  le  Breton  is,  I  obser^'e,  a  constant  at- 
tendant on  the  ex-Empress  Eugenie. 

The  question,  however,  is,  whether  the  names 
britton,  Brittain,  Bretton  are  deducible  from  Bre- 
imt,  or  whether  they  have  not  rather  a  Saxon 
than  a  Celtic  origin,  i.  e,  from  BriclUf  Brit,  Bret, 
mad  ton  (a  town).  Any  light  thrown  upon  these 
matters  would  be  very  acceptable.  One  of  the 
crests  belonging  to  the  family  is  out  of  a  naval 
oown — a  mermaid  holding  in  dexter  hand  a 
comb,  and  in  sinister  a  purse ;  and  another  is  a 
naked  arm  (to  elbow)  holding  a  key ;  the  motto 
is  "  Amor  patriae  vincit'*  Can  any  one  tell  me 
when,  and  on  whom,  these  crests  were  conferred 
nspectively,  or  by  whom  first  assumed  ? 

J.  J.  B. 

Chinese  Vegetables.  —  There  is  a  peculiar 
vegetable  in  China,  apparently  a  hybrid  between 
ft  lettuce  and  a  cabbage.  Several  packets  of  seeds 
eamo  to  England  in  1862,  and  were  distributed. 
Has  the  plant  been  successfully  reared  P  The 
leaves  of  this  vegetable  are  frequently  used  in  the 
ornamentation  of  Chinese  porcelain,  and  they  pro- 
duce an  acanthus-like  effect.  S. 

St.  Peter's  Church,  Chester. — In  the  Valv 
Rm/aly  under  Sect  ii.  *'  Of  the  Barons  Spiritual/' 
I  find :  — 

"  We  shall  therefore,  till  further  light,  set  down  the 
tfro  bishops  and  six  abbots  as  the  barons  spiritual  <»f  this 
earldom,  sitting  in  Parliament  at  Chester.  Now,  althoup^h 
tlie  eix  abbots  were  not  all  extant  in  the  time  of  the 
lirst  earl,  yet,  before  the  decease  of  Uanulf,  the  socond  of 
that  name,  carl  of  Chester,  they  were  all  fixed  in  their 
pontifiralibus. 

**  I.  The  bishop  of  Chester,  whose  episcopal  seat  in  the 
Saxon  days  I  have  read  to  be  at  S'  Peter's  church,  near 
de  Ili^h  Cross  in  the  citv. 

**  2.  The  Bishop  of  Bangor. 

"  3.  The  abbot  of  S*  Werburtfhs  in  Chester,  which 
^rareh  was  not  the  seat  of  the  bishop  till  the  days  of  King 
llenr\'  VIIT.,  but  a  pe«'uliar  residence  for  the  abbot.*' 

Can  any  of  your  readers  give  me  any  clue  as 
to  the  correctness  of  this  ?         Robert  Morris. 
ClMsCer. 

Collins.  —  Edward,  seventh  Earl  of  Meath, 
turned  Martha,  daughter  of  the  Rev.  William 
Collins  of  Warwickshire ;  she  died  in  1762.  Who 
Mr.  Collins,  and  whom  did  he  marry  P 

X  .    Si    M. 


Cotton  Ball. — The  following  is  a  cattiogfrQiii 
The  Standard,  March  16,  1872.  What  is  the  fX* 
planation  to  the  cotton  ball  ? — 

*'A  breach  of  promise  case  was  tried  at  MaidBt<me  yflstAF- 
day.  The  defendant  and  complainant's  fktber  wers  both 
employ^B  at  the  Sheemess  Dockyard,  and  the  young 
people  had  been  acquainted  from  childhood.  They  mn 
teachers  at  the  same  Sunday  school,  and  having  oourtal 
for  some  years,  the  marriage  was  arranged  to  tue  plaoi 
last  October.  At  the  last  moment,  however,  deftndiHt 
bntke  off  the  match  by  giving  the  young  lady  a  oottoi 
ball,  and  telling  her  to  go  home  and  forget  him.  Whit 
the  cotton  ball  symbolised  was  not  explained,  andtha 
juiy  gave  their  verdict  for  the  plaintiff— damages  80iL" 

R.  &  IL 

IIeraldtc. — To  whom  do  the  foUowiiig  tnoM 
belong  P  Gules,  on  a  fess  ardent  between  two 
chevronels  ermine,  three  leoparos*  [or  cats']  Imdi 
cabossed.  I  cannot  distinguish  the  tinctme  of 
the  heads.  W.  M.  H.  C. 

John  Jackson,  R.A. —  Can  any  one  inform  me 
if  John  Jackson,  the  celebrated  portrait  painttfi 
who  died  in  1831,  left  male  descendants  P 

Philip  Mskhiel 

NiNiAN  Menyil. — Can  any  of  your  readen  gift 
me  any  information  as  to  the  ancestry  or  deacenl- 
ants  of  Ninian  Menvil  of  Slechwish,  ca  Palati- 
nate, who  was  attainted  of  high  treason  and  fail 
estates  confiscated,  in  1553,  for  havinff  taken  lilt 
with  John  Duke  of  Northumberland,  Sir  Jokt 
Gates,  Knt.,  and  others,  in  proclaiming  Ladr  Jns 
Grey  queen  after  the  death  of  Edward  VLr  The 
estates  of  this  gentleman  were  nominally  imtowi 
to  him  by  Queen  Elizabeth,  but  it  seems  doaVtM 
whether  he  ever  really  obtained  poeseeaoB  d 
them  again.  I  should  also  be  glad  to  lean  thi 
date  and  circumstances  of  his  death.  P.  IL 

Xkwsham  IIousk. — There  is,  or  was,  at  Lim^ 
pool,  eastward  of  the  town,  and  not  far  ftom  ptdUiB 
gardens,  a  Ncwsham  House,  occupied  by  a  moBj 
named  Molineux.  Can  any  correspondent  oMhl 
by  giving  the  reason  of  the  house  beinff  so  ubh^ 
or  any  particulars  concerning  it  P  An  old  CattdMi 
family  long  resided  at  Gooenargh  and  in  4l 
neighbourhood  of  I'reston.  KovATIUi- 

NuRAERY  Ballad. — Can  any  of  tout  lesta 
tell  me  where  I  can  find  a  nursery  ballad  eithff 
beginning  or  ending  each  yerse  witn— 

*"  Dick  of  Taunton  Dean  **  ?  } 

L.B.P.     I 

PnoTooRAPHic  PRTNTiire. — ^We,  vfao  life  h    I 

remote  country  parts,  are  constantly  healing  of  MfV  : 
processes  for  illustrating  books  iiiezpensifel|f  W  I 
photographic  printing.  Some  contribvton  w  ' 
'^  N.  &  Q."  must  be  able  from  eKperienee  te  aA* 
vise  on  the  best  method  of  ndmigi  in  Afi^ 
manent  form,  photographic  pfrtnitB 
They  would  oblige  some  of  ,yi  « 
by  eommnnicaling  tke  imnkti  t ' ^_  _. 


4*  S.  UL  Afeil  13, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


301 


and  by  telling  us  where  and  how  we  can  get 
such  things  done  at  no  great  coat.  Tewabs. 

pRATEB  OP  Pius  DC.  fob  Fbancb. — ^The  follow- 
ing appeared  in  the  Pall  Mall  Oaz^e  of  Aug.  29, 
1871  :— 

••The  UniverM  publishes  the  following  prayer,  which, 
the  Pope  is  said  to  offer  up  daily  for  France :— *  O  Mary, 
4XNieeiyed  without  sin,  look  down  upon  France;  pray  for 
France;  oh,  save  France!  The  greater  its  guilt,  the 
ipeater  its  need  of  thy  intercession.  A  single  word  to 
Jesus,  reclining  in  thine  arms,  and  France  is  saved.  O 
Jesus,  obey  Mary  and  save  France ! ' " 

I  wish  to  know  whether  this  prayer  is  genuine, 
but  this  is  aU  that  I  wish  to  know.  I  do  not  wish 
for  any  opinion  upon  the  doctrines  embodied  in 
the  prayer,  and  indeed  I  feel  quite  sure  that  no 
such  opinion  would  be  allowed  to  find  its  way 
into  the  pages  of  "  N.  &  Q."  F.  Chance. 

Sydenham  Hill. 

Red  Cross,  IIebefobd. — Can  you  give  me  any 
information  concerning  this  ?  I  have  a  print  of 
it  published  by  Longmans  in  1815,  but  no  guide- 
book, ancient  or  modern,  alludes  to  it. 

A.  O.K. 

[This  interesting  relic  is  one  of  the  principal  vestiges 
«f  the  ruins  of  the  Black  Friars'  monastery,  founded 
1276,  in  the  Widemarsh  suburb  of  Hereford.  It  is  an 
hexagonal  preaching  cross  of  cinquefoil  arches  open  on 
•adi  side,  and  standing  on  a  flight  of  steps  gradually 
decreasing  in  their  ascent.  In  the  centre  is  a  base  of 
similar  form  supporting  the  shaft  of  the  cross,  which, 
tnranching  out  into  ramifications,  forms  the  roof,  and 
passing  through  it,  appears  at  the  top  in  a  mutilated 
•tate.  There  is  an  engraving  of  it  in  the  Beautiea  of 
£upland  and  Wales,  vi.  483.  Consult  also  Duncumb  s 
Hertfordshire,  ir404,  and  Murray's  Handbook  of  Here- 
fordshire, ed.  18C7,  p.  143.] 

'*  A  Residence  rsr  Feance.'' — Can  you  inform 

me  who  was  the  authoress  of  — 

**  A  Residence  in  France  during  the  years  1792, 1793, 
1794, 1795,  described  in  a  Series  of  Letters  from  an  Eng- 
lish Lady,  with  general  and  incidental  Remarks  on  the 
French  Character  and  Manners.  Prepared  for  the  press 
by  John  Gifford,  Esq.  2  vols,  in  8vo.  Longman,  Pater- 
noster Row,  1796." 

These  letters  have  lately  been  translated  into 
Prench  by  Mons.  Taine,  and  produced  a  great 
wnsation  in  France.  Henbi  tan  Laun. 

The  Academy,  Edinburgh. 

[It  has  been  conjectured  that  this  work  is  the  prodnc- 
ticQ  of  John  Richaotis  Green,  who  assumed  the  name  of 
John  Gifford,  bom  in  1758,  died  March  6,  1818.  He  was 
the  son  of  a  barrister,  and  inherited  considerable  property, 
which  he  dissipated,  and  had  to  retire  to  France.  Daring 
dw  administration  of  Mr.  Pitt  he  was  appointed  a  magis- 
trate in  Worship  Street,  and  subsequently  in  Marlborough 
Street.  It  is  right  we  should  state  that  in  the  third 
«dltioa  of  the  amfe  work  (p.  xxvi.)  he  declares  that 
tke  lettets  were  ttom  tiM  pen  of  a  lady,  whose  name  has 
beendhndged) 

Bnzi  AXD  Pic  1.-1^       7011  or  any  correspon- 
landlr  bdon  ^       b  I  find  any 


Pilkington's),  three  biographical  dictionaries,  and 
a  cyclopaedia,  in  neither  of  which  are  their  names 
to  be  found.  G.  E. 

Songs. — I  shall  be  glad  to  know  where  I  can 

find  the  words  of  the  national  songs  of  the  United 

States,  N.A.,  "  Hail !  Columbia,"  "The  Stars  and 

Stripes,"  and  "  Yankee  Doodle,'*  with  any  history 

of  their  origin,  &c.    I  believe  the  air  of  "  Yankee 

Doodle ''  is  a  very  old  English  one,  to  which  the 

words  were  rather  nonsensical — 

**  Lucy  Locket  lost  her  pocket ; 
Kitty  Fisher  found  it : 
Nothing  in  it,  I  declare, 
But  the  binding  round  it.*' 

Is  this  so  ?  I  also  want  the  words  of  ^'  Shan 
Van  Vocht,"  the  song  of  the  Irish  Rebellion  of  1708, 
and  **  The  Wearing  of  the  Green."  Is  there  any 
book  on  the  national  songs  of  various  countries  ? 

W.  Hamiltoit. 

48,  Bridge  Road  West,  Battersea,  S.W. 

l**mJll  Columbia  "and  "Yankee  Doodle"  are  in  ^ 
List  of  New  Songs,  No.  ui.,  published  by  Andrews,  38 
Chalham  Street,  New  Tork.  *<  The  SUrs  and  Stripes  " 
is  given  in  Beadle's  Dime  Song  Books,  No.  x.  p.  25,  New 
York.  Li  Frank  Moore's  Songs  of  the  Soldiers,  pp.  6, 25» 
270  (New  York,  1864),  are  three  songs  with  the  Utter 
title,  by  James  T.  Fields,  Thomas  Williams  of  Alleghany, 
Penn.,  and  Edna  Dean  Proctor.— The  "  Shan- Van  Voght" 
will  be  found  in  Trench's  Realiti's  of  Irish  Life,  p.  196, 
and  the  music  at  p.  367 :  two  versions  of  it  luso  are  in 
77^6  Wearing  o/*  the  Green  Song  Book,  published  by 
Cameron  and  I^rguson,  Glasgow.  For  the  history  o£ 
**  Yankee  Doodle"  consult  **N.  &  Q."  1«  S.  iv.  344,  392 ; 
V.  86,  672  ;  vi.  57  ;  2»d  S.  x.  426 ;  8'*  S.  L  468,  518;  iL 
57  ;  4<i'  S.  iL  220  ;  and  for  "  National  Music  "  the  foUow- 
ing  work :  An  Introduction  to  the  Studif  of  National  Musie^ 
comprising  Researches  into  Popular  Songs,  Traditions,  and 
Customs,  by  Carl  Engel,  1867.1 

SwoBD  Exercise. — I  am  desirous  of  ascertain- 
ing if  there  is  a  Treatise  upon  the  Sword  Exercise, 
by  Capt.  K.  Hinde,  in  existence.  It  is  supposed 
to  be  written  in  tbe  seventeenth  century.  Any 
information  will  oblige      S.  Jackson,  Librarian. 

Tennyson. — In  Tennyson's  latest  idyll  he  de- 
scribes Lancelot — 

"Sighing  weariedly,  as  one 
Who  sits  and  gazes  on  a  faded  fire. 
When  all  the  goodlier  guests  are  past  away." 

Last  Tournament,  lines  153-155. 

We  have  the  same  thought  occurring,  with  slight 
variations,  thrice  in  the  present  century  :  in  1823 
(circa^  in  rhymed  verse ;  in  1834  in  prose,  and  in 
1871  m  blank  verse.  Can  this  be  accidental  co- 
incidence of  thought  P 

Spakks  Henderson  Williams. 

18,  Kensington  Crescent,  W. 

ViOAB  OF  Hell. — Can  you  give  me  the  nanie 
of  the  person  whom  Henry  VIII.  used  to  call  his 
«  Vicar  of  Hell "  ?  (See  Milton's  Areopagitica, 
p.  47,  Arber's  Reprints.)  R.  G. 

Benares  CoUege. 


XOTES  AND  QL'EKIES. 


tVS.lX.ApBil.H.Tl 


>n  in  En^^Ianc!.    It  w 


.mplist 


applied  to  Sir  Francis  Br>'ai 


couitiera 


lleDiy  Tin. — a  man  of  i^ieat  probity,  aa  wdl  aa  a  poet  :— 
"  And  nreet-tongned  Bryan,  Rhom  the  Mum«  kept. 
And  in  hie  cradle  rock'd  him  whilst  be  slept." 

Uraj-ton's  EpUlIt  n/  tht  Earl  of  Surrey. 
l>r.NoU(SirThom.sW}-atfa»'Hr*.,ed.l8L6,p.  Iixxiv.; 


ir,forrr 


Henri 


e  dumi 


t  perditi 


conataret,  cujosmodi  ermt  aleatoiea,  adultcri,  teaones,  aa- 
M'litatorea,  perjuri,  Unaphemi,  rapaees,  atque  adeo  hierc- 
tici,  inter  boa  insignia  qaidem  nepos  extitit,  Frandacus 
lliunua.  Eqaea  Anrilua,  ex  genta  g1  alirpe  Dotenornm. 
.1.  !.i_  i> j._ ""t,  quilfl  paciati" 


.b  iUo  Rex 


1b  filial 


cognos. 


.    Cui 


Brianu<<,"Oiniiino,"  inquit,  "taKo  Rex,  qi 
primum.ddndepuliam  ejiugaUinaceumcumetierc.    v^uoq 
verbum  cum  IteK  niagno  riau  accepiuet,  ad  Brianum 
dixiase  fertur,  "Sib!    to  merito  mens  es  inftrni  Vioa- 


'-  Kegiiu  lofen 
liriu?,    ■ 


oBole- 


n  ad  alteram  quoque  flli 
mm,  animum  adjieerc  iMipit.  (IM  Scliiimiile  Anglicano, 
Kams,  lf>B6,  p.  21.)  Tbia  dirguatini'  calumny  (adds  Dr. 
Nutt)  Divanzati  gravely  repeals  in  liiii  Schiima  tTIitgliil- 
tirra,  p.  22,  ed.  Comino,  1727."] 

Chaeles  E.  Walker.— In  the  Briti.ih  Museum 
library  there  U  a  melodrama  called  The  Wnrlock 
of  Ike  Glen  (date  about  1822),  by  Charles  E. 
Walker.  In  the  title-page  of  this  drama  ia  Mr. 
Walker  Darned  as  Rutbor  of  other  pieces:  aud  if 
■o, what  are  their  titlea  I-'  The  Rev.  C.  E.Walker, 
whom  I  preaumeto  be  tlie  same  pereoD,  was  the 
author  of  Sigeimar  the  Switzer,  acted  in  Sept. 
1818  at  Drury  Laoe ;  Wallace,  a  tragedy,  acted 
at  Covent  Garden  in  1S20;  and  Catwallon,  a 
tragedy,  1820.  Besides  these  three  dramas,  all  of 
which  were  printed,  he  wrote  some  others  which 
were  performed  in  London  ;  Geraldi  Duval,  I'oor 
ItelaUont,  &c.  &c.  Can  any  reader  of  "  N.  &  Q." 
iofiirm  me  if  Mr.  Walker  ia  still  alive,  or  give  an; 
further  particulars  regarding  the  autlior  and  his 
writings?  I  think  Mr.  Walker  was  B.A.  in  1824 
of  Exeter  College,  Oxford.  B.  Ivous. 

Washikotos  Arus. — Can  any  one  explain  the 
quarterings  of  the  Washington  arms  in  the  pointed 

f;las8  of  the  bay  window  at  Ilengrave  Hall,  Suf- 
olk  P  Gag«  {Ilundral  of  Thiitgoe,  p.  220j  describes 
Ihem  thus : — 

"  Quarterly,  lat  and  4th  argent,  two  bara,  and  in  chief 
thrrc  mullets  gala ;  2nd  and  3rd  azart,  a  crosa  ilory  be- 
tween four  cin(|ueroila,  nr.  Crest :  isauing  out  of  a  ducal 
coronet  or,  a  raven  with  winue  endorsed,  laMe.  It'aiiing- 
tonofSulgrave." 

The  Ist  ud  4th  coats  are  the  arms  of  Wa«h- 
ington,  and  hsTe  a  place  id  the  window  at 
Hengrave,  because  Margaret,  daughter  of  Kobert 
KtIsod  of  WartoD,  co.  Lancaster  (father  sf  Sir 
Thamaa  Kytson  the  builder  of  HeDgravn  Hull  in 


1538),  married  John  Washington  of  Waiica 
They  were  the  father  and  mother  of  lAwnota 
Washington  of  Sulgrave,  ancestor  of  Preridtat 
George  Waahington.  But  the  2ad  and  3rd  coab 
in  the  shield,  to  which  Gage  makes  no  forthn 
reference,  appear  to  be  the  arma  of  Mooning,  «• 
cept  that  in  the  Kentish  family  of  thftt  name  Uu 
Held  is   gules ;  and  in  the  Norfolk  line  usually, 

Quarterly,  azure  and  gules.  When  and  with  wham 
id  a  match  take  place  (before  1638)  between  At 
families  of  Washington  and  Manning  ? 

CRM. 


8IGSS  ON  DOORPOSTS. 

(4"-  S.  ii.  201.) 

A  communication  from  me  on  the  nibjeet  of  tta 

Jewish  moiiaak  appeared  in  "  N.  &  Q?'  tat  Oct 

14,  1805.  It  dascnhed  one  which  had  been  fimnl 
in  the  house  of  a  Jew  in  LondoD,  after  tke  Qnrt 
Plague,  It  was  taken  to  AroencH  bj  «  koMl 
gentleman,  who  presented  it  to  Count  TfnlifllH 
He  brought  it  bai^  to  England,  and  gmn  it  Isa 
friendof  mine,  who  made  me  a  present  of  it  lb 
specimen  corresponds,  in  most  respect^  witk  wk 
of  J.  T.  F.  It  is,  however,  of  common  puebHML 
measuring  three  inches  by  three  and  a  l>aU|  filM 
in  six  folds,  and  fitting  into  a  nattow  tni  OMI- 
The  small  opening  in  the  upper  part  of  mfaik 
not  round  lilce  that  belonging  to  J.  T.  F.,  W 

Suare,  and  it  allows  the  -wan.  Shadiai,  ia  ttlM 
ehrew  letters,  to  be  seen  without  the  inlaif     < 
tton  of  any  talc.    The  passages  written  ia^  h    ' 
rery  beautiful  Hebrew  chaiaoters  are  the  iH> 
from  Deuteronomy  as  those  described  b/  JOt 
correapondent  J.  T.  F. 

In  the  ArehaologiMl  DuUtmaty,  or  Otmid 
Antiquitiei  of  the  Jevit,  &c,  byReT.Thomai  Wil- 
son, of  Clitheroe,  is  the  following  account  of  &■* 
curious  parchments: —  ' 

"Certain  pieceapf  parchmeut,  which  tht Jei 
and  put  into  a  case  of  reeds,  oi     "' 
at  the  end  of  the  case  the  vord 


frequented  places )  and  alaofaatmed  ti 
their  doors  on  the  right  aide,  and  ti  otfas  n  iwr*""" 
or  out  they  tuucbedlt  Veiy  certmooknuly  wMltkHfl' 
the  fini^r,  which  thej  immediilaly  \  iful  oat  of  M*' 

Some  further  particulars  may  be  i 
which  I  extract  from  a  long  ^explanal 
titeruznA,  by  a  learned  Helnew  scnolar ; 

"  Since  llie  diapereion  amonK  the  Gentiles,  tt 
of  the  Jena  has  heen  merely  to  wi ' 
Law  upon  a  piece  of  pstcbmsr' 
lome  covering  for  concealmml 
of  the  right-hand  poat  of  Vb,* 
ia  optional  to  — -  -  --—  ~  ~" 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


F.  C.K 


>4SSA0E  IN  CHESTEKFIELD. 

(4*  S.  viii.  45,  93,  272.) 
'  respecting  the  authoiiw  of  Lord  Ckea- 
em  triad  h>  tee  what  he  wrote  upon 

exactlj  quoted.  Lord  Coke  MyB  that 
leton  Htatea  two  opinioiiB,  the  Utter  la 
ind  I  hope  that  die  second  paauge  may 
)  modifj  the  Beveiity  of  the  first,  and 
eotlemui,  though  "  seldom  heard  to 
is;  be  audible  on  great  provocaliDi],  if, 
emagne  and  Charles  V.,  he  is  so  "aTBC 
de  retenue  et  de  gravity  "  (1  Chevraana, 
ucelloti,  after  stating  that  Cicero  would 
laughing,  eays : — 

"  ingfgno  Tedeeco  concblade  chs  '  Bisni  at 
U  in  trsnavarsuTD,  fiicta  ib  horoinn  propter 

>tatein.'  Quealo  urk  il  riso  DrdiDuio.  Ed 
grui  pnzzia.  '  Nali  disaolutiB  Iibtia,'  icrlve 
e  San  Baailio, '  risom  proferra  :  amentia  nam- 
I  strepitu  ridere,  Kd  aubrldendo  tantummodD 


lot  the  works  of  S.  Basil ;  perhaps  some 
las  will  see  whether  his  Qieek  is  ade- 

uislated. 

^ve's  Double  Dealer  Lord  Froth  never 

I  play,  but  restrains  his  inolinationa  to 

epoeta. 

t  and  loud  laughter  ia  tha  cbaracteriitic  of 

mannera ;  it  ii  tlie  manner  id  which  the  mob 
IT  rilly  joy  at  ailly  tbinga,  and  they  call  it 
'.  In  my  mind  theTc  ia  nothing  au  illiberal 
u  andible  laughter.  True  wit  or  nnae  nerer 
ybody  laugh;  they  are  aboTB  it.  TheypleaaB 
d  give  a  cheerfulness  to  the  conntenance.  Bnt 
ffoonery  or  sill;  aecidenta  that  always  exdta 
nd  that,  ia  vbat  people  of  eenae  and  bnadiog 
r  themMlves  abore.  A  man'a  goins  to  ^t 
mppoiitiou  (bat  he  baa  a  chair  behind  Urn,  and 
>  breech  for  want  of  one,  seta  a  whole  compaay 
when  all  the  wit  in  the  world  would  not  da 
>roof  in  my  mind  how  low  and  unbeooming  a 
■xr  a,  not  to  mention  the  dieagreeable  nolaa 
,ea,  and  the  ahocking  dialorlion  of  the  face 
xaaiona"  (p.  SI).— The  Polite  FSild$opi,er. 
1734, 13mo,  pp.  149. 

that  people  who  laugh  at  practical 
ot  likelj  to  he  moved  b;  wit.  A  stage 
fficult    When  well  done  we  enjoy  it  ea 

0  of  nature.  Some  still  live  who  have 
,  Gibba   laugh,  many   remember   Hra. 

1  1  aak  them  whether  they  found  the 
teeable  or  the  distortion  uglyp 
tha  other  dd^  and  having  ai 
I  ask  peimisaioD  to  add  one 

r   ^a  logidana  treat  riiibilil;  aa  the 


, itiB autjnti daAMIiaDB.  InEos 

geofiTe  niDt  ilba  ntitndiDsa  at  i..hi>-J»..»  — 

MatiiOM;  veriil  gntli,  r*^'" "-*- 

hwalaia  bablnkliiMaB  ad 

nt  non  poadt  Mgail  de , 

alJtaa,  quia  homo  pnqitaT  nHncilllatwn  «M  sotM'ad 
rideodnm.  Nante  l^tor  aptltodiiMni  ad  MmSmt,  Mt' ' 
negira  ratlonalnatem  at  eat  tolleie  OHotiuii  bandnk" 
(n^lwSmlKlwU,  Ltfiett,  Diip.  t.  QoMt.  i.  4ta. 

Padua  {Ad  Porplmii  bag.  e.  ri.)  oondndM  ■ 
umilar  uganient  witn  "  Ideoqoe  ineptoa  ad  ri4>n- 
dmn  non  eat  homo." 

"  No  man  who  baa  oiM  langhad  heartily  anl  wkoBj  eaa 
ba  allogeUiar  IrtaelaimablT  bad.   Bowmaehliealnlaa^ 
ler;  tha  dphar-key  with wUBhwededplierlhairiiatamsAl 
Some  man  wear  aa  arvlaillndir  bamn  alaipar  i  in  the 
amOaorotbaa  Ilea  a  cold  fitter  of  ice  i  the  ftwMt  b» 
able  to  laiuh  what  ^"^  be  callad  laacbliw,  bnt  onlr  Hiiff 
and  titter  and  Bilgvar  ttva  Iba  throat  astwardfi  or  it 
beat  pradoee  mum  wUt^,  l^"^  eaahinnBlin^  aa  v  A*r 
■are  laogblBg  tbnmgb  WOOL  UTsaeb  aensi  ao  med.*^* 
Carlyla,"SattorB«Mna«,-nM«^JfiW;DM.lS«^IkStt. 
Peter  Findar,  after  Jaum^g  Tariou  Ofalgt  at 
which  difTeient  paiscau  iq<wx^  Kja  that  not*— 
"  Can  man  n$ale« 
Tban  I,  the  poat.  In  a  loAj  ode 
That  eatchai  at  a  hop  the  aynle  rae^ 
Killa  with  a  laBgh  the  graTs  bnbook  ttat, 
A&d  tean  in  vite  of  him  hia  Jawi  abraad." 

£|Frw  ain>r  1785 1  ode  T. 
"ma  iithe  AAm(m  dH*  im  tnmtMrum  of  O* 
"  BeU' tnge^po  TedMCO  "  :— 

"Lea  hommes  mim*  n'oot pas  an>FaaekgilUatf«il 
leaFrau9ali|  cm  Mlaorvoit  polncostta  "■■— '  •* — ^ 
at  eat  air  content,  qua  Jo  tnote  id  d< 
dana  tootea  1m  onndltloaa. 

"  Ceit  bien  pla  en  Tnrqaic^ohronponrrott  tiovfarto 
famillaa  ob  da  ptee  n  flli^  persMiaa  n'a  ri  depoia  la  feaA^ 
tion  ila  la  ukoaarehie." — ilonteaqalaa,  L^lr—  Afwaw^ 

■""'■  aao. 

U.  D.  Gob. 


sktilUan'M 
toulMAataal 


ETTMOLOGT  OF  ••  HABBOWGATK." 
(4»  a  viiL  poMwi ;  U.  20, 181,  90S.) 
AutoHXK'a  Mem  to  me  bir  quwtioni,  and  I 
wtllinglj  anawer  them.  My  view,  of  the  huia  dl 
ancient  namee  mom  fnlly  ezpieMed  i^  tha^ 
generally  speakiiw,  they_  onitbrmly  canMt  of  a 
reference  to,  or  £*CTlption  o£  the  phyncal  ba- 
turea  of  the  spot  The  ground  of  tua  flew  U  a 
conclusion  BRiTod  at  ttam  an  indoction  of  hmi- 
dreds  of  particular  inatanowi  canfiiUy  inveatigated. 


thinkj  full^  coindx»ated  faj  Hi.  £.  sL  Ytlma,  ttt 
y^j^g    the  Suuutie  aom^;— 

rareS         "1^  DoaMoelatan  of  tb*  EMt,"ba  mvs,  "aaj  be 
rzi     divided  iototbnaalHaea:  L  Bamsa  dadnd  fan  nna  ^ 


304 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


14^^  S.  IX.  April  13»  '71. 


Arbitrary  appettationSf  I  believe,  never  occur J"^  — Times, 
October  26,  1869. 

The  italicising  is  mine.  In  the  latter  conclu- 
sion I  entirely  concur.  My  conviction  accordingly 
ifi  that,  in  spite  of  many  seeming  instances  to  the 
contrary,  the  name  of  neither  beast,  bird,  fish, 
insect,  nor  reptile  enters  into  the  composition  of 
the  nomenclature  of  this  country,  and  that  neither 
did  a  suigle  place  get  its  name  from  either  army 
or  battle.  The  questions  relative  to  the  stages  of 
the  change  of  ard  into  Harrow ^  as  also  respecting 
Knareshorough  and  Pinner,  are,  I  think,  suf- 
ficiently answered' at  the  reference  4^**  S.  viii.  312. 
Although  I  think  the  phrases  are  readily  intel- 
ligible firom  the  context,  I  will  just  say  that  ^'  a 
spurious  syUablo ''  is  one  which  is  false  and  re- 
dundant and  not  a  legitimate  part  of  a  word,  and 
that  a  **  loan-word  "  is  one  which  is  not  native  to 
a  particular  language,  but  borrowed  and  imported 
firom  some  other.  The  latter  is  not  a  word  of  my 
coining.  My  assertion  that  Ard  and  Ken  gene- 
rally **  form  the  central  name  of  a  group,"  I  do 
not  think  fairly  open  to  the  construction  which 
A.  puts  upon  it.  Ard,  when  in  composition,  I 
should  not  call  a  '*  name,"  but  an  ordinary  word, 
as  it  really  is.  WTiat  I  intended  was  this,  that 
the  ards  and  kens,  viewed  physically,  present 
central  objects,  about  which  other  physical  objects 
are  grouped  by  name.  The  most  common  of  tlie 
latter,  as  might  naturally  be  expected,  is  the  ad- 
jacent lowland.  For  this  various  terms  were  used 
according  to  the  particular  word  current  for  it,  in 
each  tribe.  The  oldest,  I  think,  was  d/in  (den, 
dene,  dean),  as  in  the  numerous  Aniens,  and  in 
Arkesden  and  Harrowdcn.  Another  term  was 
ley  {  =  l(no),  which  occurs  in  Ardley,  and  in  its 
variations,  as  Eardisley,  Hartley,  and  Yardloy. 
Again,  we  have  dale,  as  in  Arundel,  Arkendale, 
&C.  To  the  same  central  object  were  referred 
streams  and  waters,  as  in  the  case  of  St.  Albau's, 
a  name  founded,  as  I  believe,  like  St.  Pancras,  on 
a  British  one,  which  hero  was  Aldboume  (for 
Ardbourne).  This  name  occurs  again  in  Ald- 
boume, Berks,  and  in  Albouni,  Sussex,  and  again 
in  Ilartburn.  Then  for  waters  we  have  numerous 
Hardwicks,  where  \cick,  I  conceive,  represents 
w'«y^,  a  guttural  fonn  of  wnf;  we  have  also  Ilartis- 
mere  and  Ilartwell.  In  Ilartwith  ^cith  =■  weyth, 
not  wick,  as  previously  thought.  Corresponding 
classes  of  names  were  grouped  also  about  each 
ken.  Thus  we  have  for  lowlands,  Kendal,  Kensal, 
and  Kinsale  (each  =  Kon*s- vale),  Pinden,  Pen- 
deen,  Pinsley,  Pimlico,  Kenleyi  &c.,  Cantelow 
near  Kentisstonne  (Kentishtown),  and  Cantalupe 
near  Cantebrycge  (C-ambridge).  For  streams  we 
have  Pembroke,  Pimsbrook  near  Finchley,  Cam- 
borne, and  Pangboume,  and  for  waters  Candover, 
Pendower,  Pensax,  Kcnwyn,  Penwith,  Kentmere, 
Painswick,  Kenswick,  and  Keswick. 

Let  me  here  state,  as  additional  evidence  of  the 


derivation  of  Harrow  from  ard,  that  we  bsve  IB- 
stances  of  ard  in  the  intermediate  stage  of  amtL 
We  find  an  Arrod  Foot  near  Plumpton,  Lanei- 
shire,  and  Harratt*s  End^  near  Berkhampstead. 
Again  we  have  it  in  Parrotts  near  Cholesbuiji 
Bucks,  in  the  Parrott  River,  Dorset,  and  PeiTOti 
Park,  Banstead.  I  conceive  that  Parrott =0^ 
arrod.  Compare  its  confluent  Tone  ( ^=  at  hmie). 
As  evidence  that  Harratt's  End  =  Ards-Emif  I 
adduce  Berk  (=  ob-ark).  Ark,  i.  e.  org,  is  a  fo^ 
tural  of  ard.  The  same  I  believe  to  be  the  ongii 
of  Barking,  Essex,  and  All  Hallows  Bsrkiiig^  hmt 
the  Tower  of  London,  of  Baughurst,  Hants,  and 
probably  of  Brecknock  by  metathesis  for  Beik- 
knock.  A  specially  noteworthy  instance  is  fi«&- 
ham  near  Finch,  Fmch-Hampstead  Kidges,  Bed& 
Here  we  have  a  cluster  of  words  all  impWii; 
elevated  ground,  that  is,  an  ard,  Fmch  itself  has 
ard  incorporated  in  it,  as  I  believe.  Hamp  repm* 
sents  liofi  (=  a  height),  while  the  word  BioM 
speaks  for  itself.  This  view  of  Berk  I  hold  to  n 
supported  by  such  names  as  Dur-ob-rivm,  Tigf' 
wocobauc,  where  obauc  =  ob-arg,  and  Ohukmmf 
(Up-hom-town)  at  Orme*s  Head.  These  instanoei 
prove  that  the  Britons  used  the  phrase  ttb  €if 
(=  up-height),  and  where  they  point  the  ww,  ■ 
is  not  only  wise,  but  obligatory,  for  us  to  foiuoir. 
This  method  of  dissecting  and  explaining  Bcitflk 
names,  to  which  we  have  been  accustomed  ii 
attach  some  romantic  and  recondite  moaniaft 
doubtless  produces  painful  disillusions.  But  **  tnS 
before  all  things.''  It  is  certainly  annoyingrtibst  Ae 
classical  Caractacus,  Cassivellaunus,  and  BomUeM 
should  disclose,  when  analysed,  a  meaning  mtOj 
commonplace.  But  the  annoyance  is  compn- 
sated  for  by  the  result.  The  name  of  BoadiOB% 
rightly  interpreted,  serves  to  explain  a  hiitarit 
statement  otherwise  inexplicable.  The  tne 
meaning  is  not  to  be  judged  of  by  the  grandaar 
of  a  name's  appearance.  Osafada  and  Agstiao- 
nimome  look  imposing  enough,  but  they  efobt 

lie,  but  ^^dM 
discovered  ttit 


horn. 


As  an  authority  readily  aceeaeible  for  the  i 
tity  of  ptac  and  map,  ken  and  pen,  I  would 


to  Max  Miiller's  essay  on  the  question  ^  Axe 
Jews  in  Cornwall  P  'in  MacmUUm  for  April  VSSt* 
It  is,  moreover,  a  paper  which  I  would  alroq^ 
commend  to  the  attention  of  those  intereatBd  B 
the  origin  of  names  of  places  and  in  kindred  9ih 
jects.  The  best  compendium  on  thia  bmaflh  flf 
etymology  which  I  have  met  with  forms  an  i^ 
pendix  to  Sullivan's  DietUmary,  It  hneaot  AwV 
errors,  as  where  he  derives  Deriir  nd  DaAi'^ 
(and  inferentially  Dereham)  tnm  dmr^  nd  fa  A^ 


*  These  words  ave  oombinatlma  oC 
represent  the  items  of  an  aoeount)  ant  in  tj  i 
person,  for  horae-hire.    (E^mim  ^  Aai  M' 


*«»8.1X.  ApmlW.TS.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIEa 


305 


caao  ot  Norfolk  makea  foOt^pmpU;  but  on  tb 
whole  the  riem  it  orewnts  are  ntioDal  and  en 
lightened,  aud  greatly  in  fulrsnce  of  those  com' 
moaly  entertained. 

Before  dosing  I  would  obearve  tbat  the  ety- 
moloffj  of  topc^aphic&t  names  is  &  department  of 
knowledge  which,  like  everj  other,  needs  to  be 
Bpetnallj  studied  in  order  to  bo  properly  under* 
^od.  It  resembles  in  one  respect  bot&nj  or 
geology.  An  ordinary  student,  finding  a.  plant  or 
foeail,  mav  puzzle  long  and  deeply  over  it,  and 
■ftar  all  be  mistaken.  But  when  on  expert  in 
either  of  those  adences  sees  a  specimen,  he  can, 
from  having  seen  scores  of  it  peihapa  already,  at 
once  give  its  order,  genus,  and  spedea.        \V.  B. 

Sotting  mil. 

Mr.  Chattock,  who  pets  among  the  Guomea 
or  Celts*  (whom  I  bold  to  be  one  and  the  same), 
tnmslates  the  name  "  Ilarlaw  =  the  burying  ground 
of  the  amiy."t  Are  we  to  suppose  that  at  this 
spotwaa  entombed  an  entire  mUitary  host?  What, 
too,  does  your  correspondent  mean  by  a  "  genuine 
Anglo-Saxon  word  ?  It  is  well  known  that  the 
language  which  we  call  Ans;lo-Sazon  consists 
of  a  very  diverse  mixture  of  Seandioavian  and 
ofher  Gothic  dialects;  and  that  this  identical 
dialect  (see  Worsaae's  Danes  and  Northmen)  is 
found  on  the  stone  monuments  of  Scandinavia. 
Will  you  allow  me  to  add  a  sinjfle  fact  to  what 
has  already  been  communicated  on  the  subject  of 
diaeusaion,  namelv,  that  in  the  topography  of 
Cumberland  and  'f^'est  morel  end  occurs  the  name 
"HbTTOTrtfiWaile"  (Norwegian  thufit)?  plainly 
Aowing  my  conjecture  as  to  the  Scandinavian 
origin  of  the  names  Uarrow  and  Ilarrowgate  to 
be  well  founded.  J.  Ck.  R. 


iBE  IIoc3E  OF  LoBDS  m  1851 
{4"  8.  is.  281.)— The  person  alluded  to,  I  appre- 
hend, was  either  the  late  Lord  Lansdowne  or  the 
late  Lord  Derby;  but  without  seeing  the  conteit, 
it  is  not  quite  clear  which. 

Lord  Lansdowne  was  leader  of  the  Ilimie, 
i.  e.  of  the  Government  (Lord  John  Russell's) ; 
bat  it  might  he  said  that,  the  ConserTatives 
being  an  admitted  majority,  the  Conservative 
leader  really  led  the  House.  Now  the  Duke  of 
Wellington   was  still   living,    and    traditionally 


*  Your  corropondent  Ha.  Midih.ktu!!  (see  i"^  S.  ix. 
24S)  attras  id  doabt  as  to  buw  ttie  luiiguat;e  of  this 
people  (boDld  be  eet  down  on  paper.  The  rule  to  be 
abmrrfd  i\  that  it  ehoald  be  TrriUen  Celtic  or  Keltic ; 
Celt  or  Kelt,  u  one  should  choote  beCneea  irritiug 
Cicero  or  Kikno ;  Cow  oi  Etewr.  Ghent  or  Kiat.  Thom- 
(Dn  nys  Celtlberia  implied  merely  the  borden  of  the 
Ibenu.  wiiboat  any  alliuion  to  Celta,  who  were  probably 
■c*«r  condilend  it  a  dliUnot  natloo  any  more  than  the 

t  b  It  tmpoaible  to  conceive  that  Barhw  means 
(imply  **  UglHcmb"  ? 


leadei  of  the  Tories ;  bot  he  had  rather  declined, 
and  Lord  Derby  (who  did  not  become  so  till  a 
little  later  than  the  date  of  the  article,  but  had 
been  "  called  np  "  some  time  before  as  Lord  Stan- 
ley) might  be  called  virtual  leader. 

Again,  Lord  Derby's  peerage  in  the  United 
Kingdom  was  much  the  older  (1485);  but  Lord 
Lansdgwne's  2toA  peerages  (Kerry  and  LLinaw) 
were  of  the  remote  period  of  1181. 

Lttieltoit. 

"NoTHure  cah  comk  fkoh  NoTHma"  (4"  S. 
ix.  217.) — In  the  days  when  the  album  was  the 
bele  noir  of  the  boudoir,  my  father  was  pressed  to 
contribute  by  one  witty  as  she  was  fair.  Pleading 
in  set  phrase  that  he  bad  "nothing  to  write 
about,"  his  tormentor  rejoined  that  the  subject 
of  his  inspiration  had  at  least  the  merit  of  novelty, 
and  that  she  would  have  him  to  write  about 
''Nothing,"  as  he  had  proposed.  Thus  urged,  he 
bewailed  his  intellectual  poverty  as  follows:  — 

"  To  pleue  the  rgir,  ■  lucklni  wight 
Vaialy  sttempts  on  nil  lo  write. 
Brainlew  !— Can  he  her  wish  fulfil  I 
The  proverb's  true—'  Ex  nihilo  oil,'  " 

G.  R.  W. 
"Botlb'b  Coitkt  GniDB"  (4*  S.  ix.  202.)— I 
have  myself  got  the  voluoie  for  1702,  and  this  I 
believe  to  be  really  the  first,  although  the  cir- 
cumstances of  its  being  described  as  "'  the  second 
edition,  corrected  and  much  enlarged."  seems  to 
point  to  its  having  been  issued  in  the  previous 
year.  The  title-page  runa  —  "?"**  FwiManabk 
CouH,  or  Town  I  ititing  Directory,  for  the  Ytar' 
179L',  The  Second  Edition,  corrected  and  much 
eolarKed."  I  have  also  the  volume  tor  1796, 
''  with  near  three  thousand  alterations  carefully 
corrected."  W.  Weisht, 

nVe  were  minled  hv  the  tille-pii;;e  of  thstof  1796, 
wKch  reada  u  fotlowB  :  "  Thefirat  edition  ever pahlished 
of  Bovle's  iVw  Fadiionable    Oiurl  and  Cuanitf)  Quidk, 

d  foKn  Vuititg  Dirtclory,  for  the  year  179U,"] 

Rbv.  AsrnoHT  Davtdson,  M.A.  (4""  S.  i«.  98, 
171.) — This  clergyman's  daughter.  Maty  Eliza- 
beth, was  wife  of  a  Mr.  George  Gold,  sometime 
bailiff  to  the  laU  Joseph  Neeld,  Esq.,  of  Grittle- 
ton,  in  N.  Wilta.  Being  old  and  in  reduced  eii- 
cunutaneea,  they  were  both  admitted  (and  were 
the  first  persons  admitted)  into  an  almshollse 
built  here  and  endowed  hy  Mr.  Neeld.  The  hus- 
band died  in  1860,  the  wife  in  164(1.  Before  het 
death  she  gave  me  some  MS.  sermons,  turned  into 
blank  verse  by  her  father  Mr.  Davidson;  hut 
whether  they  are  the  same  as  those  which 
(p.  93,  auprd)  Mk.  Inslis  mentioita  as  having  been 
printed  at  Romsey,  I  cannot  aay,  never  having 
met  with  that  volume.  The  texts  of  those  which 
Ipoeeeaaiu  MS. are — Ps.cxix.  fiOj  Job  zzxv.  10; 
GaL  T.  1;  Urtt  zz*.  10;  1  Cor.  xr.  68;  EoclMk 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4>»S.IX.Arau.Ui'!t 


Ml.  1;*  JameB  iv.  U;  Acta  v.  38,  39;  Phil.  ii.  12; 
Matt.  szvi.  41.     Also  a  poem  ia  MS.  headed 

"DcTHrniES:  a  Foeni.  By  Anihniiy  DnvidaoD,  a 
nitive  of  Galloway ;  but  pirateil  ami  printed  bv  aonic 
nnknowQ  hand." 

It  bepiiB  — 
"  Klnurish  DuHFRiBS,  may  Heaven  increaae  thv  store. 

Till  CiilFel  aink  and  Nith  shall  glide  no  mare.'' 

Besides  the  aboie  — 

"  Sh.indy's  ApoBtrophe  at  tlie  Tnnib  nf  Nestor:  occa- 
sioned by  the  deatb  of  tbe  Rev.  Williuin  Kankiae,  Uinia- 
tei  of  Siuiqubar,  H.B," 

J.  E.  Jacksos, 

Hon.  CanoD  of  Bristol. 
Leigh  Delamcre,  Cbippenbam. 
One-Pkwny  a"-  S.  it.  201,  2fll.)— May  we 

connect  this  with  penny-itmie,  a  north -country 
word,  as  firockett  hath  it,  meaning  a  stooe  quoit 
■with  which  children  play  P  11.  S.  SKirios.     I 

Tivoli  Uottags,  Cheltenham. 

Tns  LoBD  BoftTTEKi  (4'"  y.  ix.  74,  lOO,  247,)—  I 
In  my  childish  days  I  heard  a  diffttrent  vt^ruioa  of  ' 
Vr.  llokanki  (or,  aa  the  name  waa  pronounced  to 
me,  "  Dr.  Bidlkuiki ").  When  I  had  done  any- 
tbinj^  nanghly,  I  was  told  that  1  waa  like  Dr. 
Bnllkaiiki,  who  bled  hid  wife  to  death  with  a  pick- 
lae.  M.  V. 

Froome-SelvDod. 

"Absidua  SnLLA  Sasum  excavat  (4'"  8.  ix. 
2C9.)— The  oripinal  of  this  is  sought.    It  may  be 

the   Latin  Terrion  of  ^li  MtXixoiaa  miAaJm  ri- 

Tpor ;  which  is  the  prose  version  of  nhpar  xotKalrn 

K'li   BIoTix   MiXixftji,  I.  c,   which  in   the  Latin 
xameter  is :  — 

'■  Stillula  mollis  i:|iue  Upidem  assiduo  cava!  ictu." 
The  above  JKderived  from  the  notice  of  the  aayinfir 
mAdagia,tdut,Pr<n:erbiorum,^-c.,  Collectio,  p.  74. 
Tjpis  Wechel,  1020,  s.  v.  "  asaiduitaa." 

It  haa  been  confirmed  by  the  notice  in  Lang-ii 
PolyarUhea  Nooittima,  col.  278,  s.  v.  "  assiduitalia," 
where  it  is  also  cited.  My  copy  is  defective,  no 
that  I  canoot  give  the  place  and  date. 

Sandfi>ra.  Ed.  MABSnALL. 

Seslac  (4""  S,  i!c.  101, 235.)— This  name  aeems 
to  be  the  same  with  Shenlyy,  or  Shelley,  which  in 
Saxon  will  translate  "  beautiful  field  or  place  " 
(tcaie-teag).  E.  S.  Cqarnock. 

IIbron  orHerke  (4"'S.viii.  517;  ix.  45, 130, 
180,  227.)  —  The  pronunciation  hirne  is  of  far 
older  origin  than  any  instnnce  hitherto  adduced 
by  jour  corresjKjDdtnts.  lu  the  ballad  of  "  John 
de  Reeve,"  which  could  not  have  been  written 
later  than  the  middle  of  tbe  fifteenth  century, 
occurs  tbe  following  atunza,  descriptive  of  the 
dishes  that  the  villain  set  before  lildward  III. :  — 


GjDgya,  carieya,  w .  _., 

The  etant,  the  Mtani  ia  ffer^ 

PigsoDi,  partridea,  with  tpicvry, 

Elkea,  fflunua,  with  Bntayt. 
Jalm  bade  them  make  good  cheefe." 

BUIUyi  Percf'i  fUio  MS^  fL  STL 

This  bird  ia  also  described  both  in  the  JfMfanw 


,  gives  "Henubaw,  hemery,  a  place*  whan 
hems  breed."  A  hemery  (not  heniry,  ta  Hk. 
PiccFosD  suggests),  which  waa  in  exiatooce  a  fmr 
yearaagoin  the  iiughbouThoodorDanater,Soiiu^ 
set  (and  which  is  probably  still  in  baiiig),  wit 
invariably,  in  my  hearing,  pronounced  ul  ban 
spelt  it.  At  the  same  time  I  may  mention  Uttk  I 
was  acquainted  with  a  family  in  the  same  coan^ 
who  were  very  particular  in  pronounung  thv 
eiruame  i^  "  Heron  "  as  a  diBsjllable. 

J.  Chaklbs  Cox. 

nizelwood,  Belper. 

iloTCH  Pot  (4'"  S.  ix.  180,  248.)— Ms.  Tiw 
savH  that  hotchpot  waa  a  custom  confined  to  tt> 
City  of  London,  and  that  from  this  is  derived  Ai 
disn  now  called  "  bod^e-podge,"  of  which,  mijl 
be  permitted  to  add,  his  paper  fumishea  a  liteniT 
illustration.  Jlotchpot  ia  part  and  parcel  (rf  IM 
]Cngliah  law,  and  I  am  not  aware  that  it  ha>  ent 
been  repealed.  Wharton  derives  this  term  fton 
French  "  hachi  en  pocke,"  a  confuted  miHRlnf  df 
divers  tbioga,*  while  Bailey,  in  bis  DjctJeumttm 
liritannkttia  (edit.  1736),  finda  its  origin  in  Dotak 
huU-pot,  flesh  cut  into  small  pieces,  and  itnnd 
with  herbs  and  roots ;  and  hence,  he  aaya,  br  nj 
of  metaphor,  tbe  putting  togeUier  of  ludi  w 
tbe  equal  distribution  of  them.  The  oiutom  (^ 
tbe  City  of  London  might  account  for  the  fiiffiA 
"  hodge-podge,"  thoiigli  hardly,  aa  I  thinly  i> 
the  Scotch  "  hotch-potch,"  which  means  dte  ■■■ 
thiag.  Jamieson  derives  the  latter  fromTeuttrit 
hati-pot:  As  to  tbe  derivation  from  French  "ivU 
en  poche,"  it  seems  infinitely  more  probtUlttlt 
Bome  form  of  this  word  may  be  foond  In  vA* 
dialects  of  theQothic;t  and  that  it  deflCeolallB 
tbe  Normans  from  their  prof^eniton  the  Nixt^ 


[•  Only  the  seno. 
Davidson  a  Semumi  i 


whose  institutions  it  is  only  n  ^^ 

believe  the  feudal  law  in  its  elements  is  umf 
to  be  referred.  A  MiDluJI  TtxfUt 

Divorce  (4"-  8.  ix.  200.  251.)— Mb.  Chaiio« 
tells  us  that  "  a  woman  divorced  retaina  her  mj 
riage  name."  May  I  beg  to  be  favoured  VV 
some  authority  for  this  Btatament,  which  I  da  i^ 


t  Thomaon  gives  Belcic  (a  Gaiman  dialect)  tmt*/^ 
ind  Icelandic  houai    Tent,  hottm;  Belole  isli"ij* 
>  jumble.   He  Myi:  " guft*  jiitJ,  m  smM* 


re  of  food  boiled  together." 


:JM 


«k  B.  IZ.  Apbil  18, 72.} 


NOTES  AND  QUBEIEa 


findF  Wharton's  Law  Lexicon  (ed.  1867),  aa  I 
read,  says :  —  ' 

"  It  is  not  known  ij  what  simame  ■  voman  can  pro- 
pttrlj  be  known  after  she  ia  diroreeti  from  a  husband  b]r 
a  decree  of  diisolution  of  marriage.    A  womaii  judicially 

X rated  from  a  hoaband  retains  Ilia  name;  and  one. 
le  marriage  haa  been  adjudged  null  atd  eoid  raTerta 
to  ber  maiden  name." 

Need  I  inform  yourcorrespondent  that  "divorce" 
and  "jndicialseparation"  are  not  identical  P  "Null 
and  void,"  whicD  differs  from  both,  eiplaina  itself. 
Of  this  la«t  the  case  of  Miss  Longworth  (?),  in 
the  cause  Yelverton  t>.  Yelverton,  is  a  notable 
example.  Mr.  Chaksock  goes  on  to  say  that 
"  there  is  nothing  to  prevent  any  one  from  assum- 
ing any  name  he  or  she  may  toink  fit."  This  is 
true  in  point  of  fact  ;*  but,  I  submit,  wholly  irre- 
levant to  the  inquiry,  which  such  remarks  tend 
to  obscure  rather  than  elucidate. 

B  AKR18TER- AT-L  A  W . 

To  "  Progress  "  (4'"  S.  ii.  28.)— If  S.  supposes 
that  the  Americana  Bsy  "topri>-gTeas"  or  "to  pro(/- 
rees,"  he  is  utterly  wrong.  The  accent  is  always 
laid  on  the  last  syliable.  I  think  that  I  showed 
in  one  of  the  early  volumes  of  "  N.  &  Q."  that 
the  verb  "  to  progress  "  was  not  an  Americanism. 
"  It  is  a  good  word,  and  a  word  of  exceeding 
good  command."  Its  meaning  is  not  identical  i 
with  that  of  the  verb  "to  proceed."  It  implies  i 
regularly  proceeding,  Uiib»a,     I 

Philadelphia. 

Frescoes  at  Feichav  Park,  LRATHERnEAD 
(4*^  S.  iz.  138.) — Mr.  John  IIebu  inquires  ns  to  i 
this  place,  and  certain  frescoes  in  the  hall,  ftc. 
there.     It  is  curious,  and  proves,  I  think,  the  use  I 
and  value  of"  N,  &,  Q,"  that  at  the  very  time  of  j 
hie  inquiry,  I  should  happen  to  he  looking  over  a  i 
large  mass  of  very  dirty  papers  which  once  be- 
longed to  the  family  of  Mooie  of  Fetcbam  and  I 
Polesdon  in  Surrey,  and  which  are  now  the  pro- 
perty of  the  Baroness  North.     [Her  ancestor  Lord 
North,  the  minister,  haviag  by  will  on  the  ex- 
tinction of  the  Moore  family  in  1740  succeeded  to 
what  little  remained  of  their  inheritance.] 

Among  these  papers,  I  laid  my  hand  upon  the 
following,  in  the  autograph  of  William  Moore, 
Eeq,,  the  eldest  son  of  Arthur  Moore,  who  died  in 
1734,  which  I  have  transcribed,  as  I  think  it  will 
be  found  to  answer  at  least  some  part  of  Mr, 
JoHB  IIebb's  query; — 

**  To  be  aold  at  Fetcbam  aean  Leatherhead,  Surrey,  , 
"Tlie  manaion  house  and  offices  of  the  late  Arthur 
Moore,  Esq.,  dee',  being  a  beautyfull  building  from  the 
design  of  the  late  Mr.  Taltmen,  consisting  of  many 
rooms  of  ■  floor,  a  large  hall  and  ataircaae,  painltd  by  Iht 
latr  fattna  I^agaette,  with  a  saloon  and  gallerr,  and 
Mveral  other  rooms  linely  painted  by  the  mtae  hand,  par- 
tjcolarljr  one  wainscotled  with  japan,   tcilh   Tartarian 


•  This  WIS  first  decided  in  a  causi 
wpb  JAyll,  Uaalar  of  the  Soils,  11 
wriBcebcU. 


ta^tttrg' »iUi.  Together  with  the  gardens  ud  park,  coif 
I  tauiiog  by  eslimation  about  one  hundred  acre^  tha  whola 
being  finely  adorned  with  canalls,  banDs,  aUtues,  vasea^ 
iron  gates,  pallisadea,  die,  and  laid  out  in  the  moat  ele- 
gant manner  I  with  three  ponds,  containing  ^e  space 
of  six  acres,  in  which  are  several  clear  and  deep  apringa, 
which  by  largo  engines  eerve  the  canalls,  badna,  reser- 
Toira,  &c.,  and  famish  the  bouse  with  water  convey'd  in 
strong  leaden  pipes." 

I      N.B.  The  words  which  I  have  italidsod  are 
effaced  in  the  original.  Ev.  Ph.  SHtHLBr. 

Feltham  Family  (4""  S.  a.  217,)— Mr.  Cum- 
ming,  in  his  edition  of  the  Setolva  (1620),  sayB 
that  the-father  of  Owen  Feltham  died  March 
II,  1631,  aged  sixty-two.  He  died  and  was 
buried  at  Babraham,  co,  Cambridge,  and  an  altor- 
I  tomb  of  black  marble  was  erected  over  bis  re- 
I  mains  in  the  south-east  comer  of  the  chancel  of 
that  palish  church.  The  Gent,  Mag.  (vol.  Izxxr. 
part  I.  p.  301)  gives  the  Latin  inscription  on  the 
I  toinh,.  which  represents  him  as  having  died  on 
the  tenth  of  March,  1G31,  itus  miHtia  aixty-one. 
The  year  of  course  is  1631-2.  As  in  all  proba- 
.  hility  he  was  not  buried  till  after  his  deaui,  Mr, 
I  Cumming  has  misstated  the  date  of  the  latter 
I  event.  In  my  extracts  from  the  Babraham  parish 
register  I  have  a  note  of  his  burial,  which  is  thua 
recorded — "  Thomas  Feltone,  Gent.,  buried  March 
10, 1631 "  [-2].  It  would  appear  from  this  that 
he  was  buned  on  the  same  day  that  he  died.  We 
have  also  in  the  phonetic  spelling  of  bis  name  a 
key  to  its  ordinary  pronunciation ;  we  may  at 
least  conclude  that  the  letter  h  was  silent 

E.  V. 
Who  was  Sib  P.  T.  ctrca  1640?  (4''  S.  ix, 
185.) — Might  he  not  have  been  Sir  Peter  Temple, 
Bart.  9  He  was  member  for  Buckingham  in  the 
Long  Parliament,  and  was  nominated  to  the  otBce 
of  iQng'a  Judge ;  hut  did  not  perform  it,  or  com.- 

flete  it,  by  signing  tbe  death- warrant.  (Sao 
hottiss  Carlyls  s  Letlers  and  i^ecchea  of  Oliver 
Cromwell,  edit  1871,  ii.  261.) 

IIbnrt  W.  Hknibky. 

IS.  Eaton  Place,  BriEhton. 

Ret.  Ma.  Moultrie  (4"-  S.  ix.  118, 184.)— I 
remember  of  a  Rev.  ilt.  Moultrie  whose  ChriS' 
tian  name,  I  tbink,  was  Thomas.  He  was  a  poet 
of  the  Haynes  Bayly  school,  and  wrote  for  an- 
nuals when  that  class  of  publication  was  in  the 
hey-day  of  its  popularity.  I  remember  only  two 
fragments  of  one  of  his  poem^  which  nerhapa 
may  lead  your  correapondenU  to  the  man  ttiey  are 
in  search  of.    They  are  as  follows :  — 

"Forget  thee!    If  to  dream  by  night, 

And  mosa  on  thea  by  dav. 
With  aU  Ihe  ardour  deep  and  wild 

A  poet's  heart  can  pay ; 
If  prayers  in  absence  breathed  lor  Ibei^ 

To  heaven's  protecting  power ; 
If  aunay  thooghta  that  flit  to  tbee, 

A  thoaiand  la  an  hoar ; 


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NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


[4^  a.  IX.  Ann.  Ilk  n 


If  buy  fim^  blending  thee 

With  all  my  future  lot. 
If  this  thou  cairst  forgetting, 

Thou  indeed  sbalt  be  forgot. 

•  ■  •  •  • 

Keep,  if  thou  wilt,  thy  maiden  place, 

StiU  calm  and  fancy  free ; 
For  God  forbid  thy  gladsome  heart 

Should  grow  less  glad  for  me. 
But  while  that  heart  is  still  unwon, 

Oh  I  bid  not  mine  to  rove, 
But  let  it  live  in  simple  faith 

And  uncomplaining  love. 
If  theee,  preserved  for  patient  years. 

At  last  avail  me  not, 
Forget  me  then,  but  ne'er  believe 

That  thou  canst  be  forgot." 


Stirling. 


J.  n. 


CVBTOK    FOBMEBLT  EXISTING   ITT   EnoLAND  OF 

iHViiiNe  Prayer  for  the  Builders  of  Bridges 
(4^  S.  ix.  258.) — I  po88Cfl8  the  brass  plate  taken 
from  the  foundations  of  the  old  bridge  over  the 
river  Teme  at  Stanford,  Worcestershire,  at  the 
time  the  new  iron  bridge  was  erected  by  Nash, 
the  architect.     Upon  it  is  this  inscription :  — 

"  Pray  for  Humphrey  PakjTiton,  Esq.,  bom  in  Stan- 
ford, wlnrche  payde  for  the  wurkmanshepe  and  makeing 
of  this  brygg — the  whyche  was  rercd  and  mayed  the  !■* 
day  of  May,  and  in  the  1**  year  of  the  rayne  of  King 
Edward  the  Sixth." 

TnOMAS  E.  WlKKINGTON. 

Erlkowiq  (4»»»  S.  Lx.  138,  187,  242.)— I  am 
clad  that  my  query  respecting  the  Erl-king  has 
induced  Prof.  BucnnEiM  to  explain  so  clearly  the 
meaning  of  a  word  to  which  (as  used  by  Herder, 
Goethe,  and  Heine)  it  seemed,  previously,  difficult 
to  attach  any  meaning  whatever.  But  we  must  not 
lightly  charge  such  men  as  these  with  want  of 
knowledge.  Herder,  translating  the  Danish  EUe-- 
konge  as  Erl  (or  alder)  konigy  instead  of  Elfen 
kiinigy  may  have  had  in  mind  the  Wudurdfen  of 
the  Saxons.* 

In  thanking  Mr.  Aikgrr  and  Mr.  Gaspey  for 
their  replies  (4***  S.  ix.  187),  I  may  mention  that, 
when  referring  to  my  German  dictionaries,  I  haa 
not  overlooked  the  word  Erie;  but  it  gave  no 
meaning  which  I  could  then  connect  with  the 
subject  of  my  inquiry.  The  word  that  I  looked 
for,  and  could  not  find,  was  ErL 

Prof.  Buchheim  says  — 

^  People  would  do  well  to  consult  Grimm's  WorUrhuch 
SB  far  as  it  has  been  published,  or  the  Wiirierbuch  by 
Saunders,  before  they  address  to  vou  any  queries  about 
the  etymolog}'  or  signification  of  (jerman  wonls." 

He  is  himself  fortunate  in  having  ea.sy  access  to 
such  works.  When  those  who  dwell  in  remote 
districts  wish  for  more  than  commonplace  infor- 
mation, they  can  only  avail  themselves  of  so 
valuable  a  medium  as  '^  N.  &  Q.,"  and  feel  grateful 
that  it  exists.  W.  M.  T. 

*  Vide  Mmstrday  of  the  Scottiah  Border, 


"'Nam  hihil  sax  Gemmii^"  Bxa  (4*^  8.  is* (By 
144.) — There  is  apparently  a  conndienUa  nrilto 
of  punning  effusions  of  Vm  kind.  I  base  art 
witn  the  following^  whidi  I  Mieve  Ium  not  ap* 
peared  in  '<  N.  &  Q./'  but  whicli,  I  think,  dmmm 


msertion :  — 

**  Quid  levius  vento  ? 
Quid  fulmine  ? 
Quid  fama  ?    . 
Quid  maliere  ? 


FalnMB, 
Fama. 
MnUer- 
NitalL** 

F.C.E 

<'Barlat  "  (4'*"  S.  ix.  238.)— Jamiesoii  damw 
the  word  barley,  as  used  by  <^ldren  in  gUBa% 
from  French j9ar^  English |MirZey.  Madden  mf 
gests  that  the  barla^  of  Sir  Oawojfne^  L  208^  9 
from  French  par  loi,  I  hav0  miaJaii  my  Jflr* 
rws  S^xcitneiiSj  and  so  cannot  refer  to  his  nolia 
Byrlady,  hy'rladykin^  hy'rlakm^  aze  of  lata  ni^  ii 
the  dramatists  ^r  instance.  The  Sir  GawMH 
word  is  puzzling.  JoHir  Addis,  MjL 

Barlay,  used  all  over  Scotland  in  ehildnalii 
games,  where  one  chases  another.  The  one  ImI 
pressed  saves  himself  from  being  caught  if  JMl 
on  the  eve  he  cries  barley.  The  word  is  BttHl 
parleZf  and  means  that  die  oonquwed  wishKto 
negotiate  with  the  vietor.  W.  H 

Paisley. 

Everyone  who  haa  been  in  Scotland  in  his  TSift 
will,  I  think,  readily  accept  Dr.  Jamieson^  la* 
finition  of  ^*  Barley" — "  A  term  used  in  the  gSBH 
of  children,  when  a  truce  is  demanded^  &-A 
parlez ;  E. '  Parley.' "    Barley^  in  such  gamta  ii 
always  cried  in  a  frolicsome  way.    The  imd  Ml 
not  appear  to  have  been  used  by  Rob«rt  BozaMI 
I  can  rely  on  the  gloBsaries  to  the  followingsflb 
tions  of  the  poefs  writinss  as  being  ftThanitiit- 
Morison,  Perth,  1813 ;  Edin.  Trade  edit  (181)0)1 
Chambers^s  edit.  1838;   Aldine  edit  187a    I 
have  not  seen  the  word  used  in  oompootian  10* 
cepting  in  Smollett's  Hqtrisal;  mr  Urn  Tars  9fQi 
Et^glnnd,  ''  Printed  [at  Glasgow?]  in  the  jatfl 
MDccLviii.''  where  '' Maclavmoxey  a  SooUk  CSW 
in  the  French  service  (Act  II.  Sc.  10)  fiTflsiMlfc 
<'  I'rie  no  be  the  first  to  cry  6aWfly."    Dr.  SbmOb^ 
has  the  word  printed  in  italics,  although  oartaUlyf 
there  are  enough  and  to  spare  of  eant  and  Saifil 
words  in  the  ensign's  share  of  the  diakgna.    Ito 
Wedgwood  (edit.  1872), verbo " Parlay/^lMyMiai# 
but  little  to  our  |)revious  knowledge ;  andy  I  iip^ 
pose,  it  may  be  still  concluded  in  the  woraa  m^ 
Quarterly  ^viewer,  the  BcT.  Bidiaid  GsWlk 
(Rev.  vol.  liv.  p.  299 ;  Atkmumm,  April  SS;  IM^ 
p.  545)  that  — 

"  We  fear  that  our  heit  me»s 
from  trustworthv ;  and  we  fed 
with  a  worthy  IlibemiaB  9i  oa 
clurcd  that  t'he  only  good  Engl  ih 
is  Dr.  Jamioson's  ScaUUk  one/* 

Crieff.  .•.'«■ 


*.-  '>;■ 


CK.AnKll^'n.] 


NOISa  AJSS>  QUHBONL 


a  BMAjm  am  BwLis  (4/^  a.  ix.7e.aBO.y- 
an  dDB  to  J.  T.  F,  fiw  bis  ■dfitkaa  to 
ilk;  mwilliiope  mora  mAj  jet  faB&Diid; 
bw  lesre  to  dif&i  bom  him  cm  one  poial 
U-hoDten  know  that  nothing  ia  mom 
1  than  to  find  on  bella  of  all  agea,  worda 
BMi  miasbelt  and  lattan  plaoad  npaiie 
bnt  I  believe  no  one  eTer  ibnnd  that  a 
idei  could  not  epell  bia  own  name ;  tham- 
•g  to  protest  against  tlie  faocifol  heiear 
let  forth,  'into  wiiiob  m;  fiiend  J.  T.  F. 
1  hia  baste  to  have  faUen,  via.  that  Awatan 
WW  Aoaten  Braoyer,  one  of  the  noted 
iftbatnameofNorwieb. 
tgh  tbe  said  Awatrai  Btaeker  Unndand 
roaring  bis  ^pee  backwards,  bia  niaaa, 
',  ie  plwn  enough  to  all  beboldaia  who 
n  his  bells.  H.  T.  E. 

Duj.  ImcRTPTioxB  (i*  8.  TJi.,  viiL  paa- 
:}^nui  Redding,  in  bis  Fiftif  Teari  Seeot- 
iii.  81,  has  tike  following  pisaage : — 

MS  on  dials  sre  earisiu.  One  id  Utif,  I  ra- 
il pretC;.     font,  din,  el  vilafiigit,  mmmal  — '- 


wood";  A^V«(<*a&n.7iid,"*a.  lE^WA- ' 

Tba  praaant  nfnmula&nt  of  tk«  baiSj  bt 
Iha  dinctliae  am tb  two  Mi« Haiga  «f  Bamt 
aida.    Thepraivita  ' 
7.B.Ha 


B.Ha»,ofJB 

Anna,*  com  Mltii^  two  rnnlkti  md  t«o.»»- 
eanta  aigent  in  a  field  aaoMb  On^  •  mh. 
Motto,  **  l>de  what  m^." 

anirenltr  ClDbk  Edlabaq^ 

Caft.  Sahttxl  Eixfl'B  Nakuhtx  (4f^  8..  Iz, 
289.) — Sorelj  H&  Spmsnia  ia  wrong  in  ■  * 
that  to  UtOd  ol  tbe  maniuariBt  of  "  C^Ma  S 


) — Sorelj  H&  Spmsnia  ia  wrong  in  MlriiH 
so  UtOd  ol  tbe  maniuariBt  of  "  C^Ma  'SSfA 
NanatiTe  of  8u  W.  Bal^'a  Uoti^ea,"  As.  % 


:  at  a  potent  leader's  voice  I  it^cd, 
I  went  back  when  a  good  monarch  prayed ; 
■!>,  bove'er  we  KTieve,  howe'ei  dqilora, 
iying  idiadoir  will  retnm  no  loora." 

Edwa&d  F.  Rikbattlt. 

Bolrzh's  Booi  op  Bxvonova  (**  S.  iz. 
laa  K.  Mabssax  examined  whethsr  this 
a  of  prayera,  &e.  is  included  in  BentioT's 
vi  of  MalronM,  amtainmg  lesertd  I/omfm 
wfw,  or  didinet  Tnatuu.  1683  P 
Ma  tbe  first,  second  and  third,  and  fifth, 
1  seventh  lamps,  but  not  the  foortb.  The 
nntftins  "Diuere  godlie  Meditations  and 
1  Praieis  made  bj  sundrie  Vertnoos 
and  other  devout  and  godlie  women  in 
."  And  the  third,  vanoua  najers,  Medi- 
ic  "  to  be^soid  of  our  moet  v^tuous  and 
aereigne  Ladie  Qneea  Elizabe^"  Ac. 
S.M.8. 

HGDON  COTTMTT  HlBTOBT  (i'^S.  JX.  341.) 
no  bietorj  of  this  count;,  althooKh  ctd- 
Iwemade  for  such  a  work  by  Hutonioaon, 
aeded  so  far  as  to  collect  subacriptioas 


'&.U 


U  ^ven  in  Ur.  01^'a  Xifb  ^  Ar  IFdbr  iZoM. 
for  I  think  the  w&Me  aeommt-  of  Ae  Uma,  from 
Sir  Walter's  landing  i*  HjvMatb  to  Uaairinl 
in  London,  ia  tdran.fton  tte  arid  HB;  ftom 
"  NeverthelesB  aa  w«  ■•  avDiad  bj  Ol^tlin 
Samuel  Einf"  .  .  .  .  oa  page  cdx.  to  eaS  tt 
page  OCX.,  when  Us  lettat  of  dfAnoe  to  1it»  Uu 
comes  in,  llta  Bamtiw  goes  on  at  «nd  of  tliU' 
letter  on  page  cciii.  down  to  Ow  middle  of  paga 
ccxiiL,  where  HtnoDiia'a  daolatatioii  caMunenoGik 
and  proceeds  to  middle  d  page  ainnrii,  vHen  we 
have,  "And  mw  eoaua  «a  Ike  leMriiiiliii  of 
Captain  King's  Nanafire "  .  .  .  .  ibI  eantbosi 
to  pageoBdx.,  wtumitia  flsialiadwiA  thsJol- 
lowing  word^  "and  ao  eoaclndae  lua  NaasifiaJ' 
which  X  almdd  think  taken  altogatlMS^  wim 
^nite  fill  two  akesM  af  MS.  lU. 

Tha  Uaton  I  qaoto  from  ia  that  anAnd.  !• 
Halsgh'a  Midirr  rf  O*  World,  alamBth  -fSn 
17a6,byOU?s.  Ba»ofva«ieadKa.oe^dM 
me  when  the  oiigutal  j'^^ift  fran  aliWi  tka 
print  in  said  work  is  taken,  i^  i  aheidd  Itt  tmg 
f^aA  to  know  of  i^  as  it  was  for  some  jean,  in 
poseeisian  of  onr  bmily,  bnt  lost  right  a  alait 
1768.  TtvNja  Oabz-Eeik  VSJ,. 

BoiUliBRrtad. 

Spbafmb  Babbt  (4<*  B.  iz.  1M.>— TKe  pn- 
trait  which  led  to  Oiy  inquiry  ia  tiaf  Ikat  W 
Harding  after  Sir  Joshua  BejrooUk  as  a^gesM 
by  the  Editor,  bnt  an  engraving  cf  It  ia  aaid  to 
be  in  the  oolleetums  to  whidi  I  referred.  I  trMt 
tberefoM  my  qiui7  may  efi^  the  r 


OP  HnnnBRSFiBLD  (4*^  S.  ix.  241.) — 
iiall,  and  other  places  in  the   north  of 

ia  derived  from  end  is  a  coiroption  of 
It  Scottish  name  of  Hug.  Ther  are  first 
in  the  twelfth  century  as  "deHa{[^" 
•oA  aadftmily  is  soppoaed  to  be  Damshi 
^ing  "  mMlerwood,   bong  derived  from 

Ifctae  root  aa  hog^  GcuUlcd  ^  "™i^ 


Pnxis  n&rredtoB[i^'B.O«Mnf  (B^i. 

.DuAma^^  Oa  Jwrysi  <  O^md,  .rnilw^;" 

A  copy  of  tbeereeffiion,  lasi,  is  la  BaeAkit 
sale  cataloma.  W.  X.JL 

BUalUitaiOTa 

Lvm  HBmiL'a  TSusa  ^f*  S.  iL  : 

In  tnnriDg  orcr  tbe  i      ^  w  l.Ta 

petnal  ameeaiad  n  X 

nir  the  flnt  tlnie^ 


310 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i*!' S.  IX.  Afbil  If,  *71 


municated  bj  your  valued  correspoudent  Her- 
mann Kindt,  and  having  been  unable  to  resist 
the  temptation  of  attempting  a  translation  of 
them^  I  submit  to  you  my  version  of  the  charm- 
ingly devout  original,  fully  conscious,  at  the  same 
time,  of  my  inferiority.  Perhaps  I  may  be  sin- 
gular in  my  opinion,  but  from  long  acquaintance 
and  familiarity  with  the  language  I  consider  the 
German  to  be  superior  to  the  English  in  power 
and  unction  of  religious  expression. 

John  Macrat. 
Oxford. 

"EVENING   PRAYER. 

*'  Tired  and  sinking  down  to  rest, 
Let  mine  eyes  by  sleep  be  pressed. 
Father,  may  Thy  kind  regard 
0*er  my  bed  keep  watch  and  ward. 

**  Have  I  evil  done  to-day. 
Look  not  sternly  on  it,  pray : 
Jesas'  blood,  and  grace  divine, 
For  all  sins  atone— ^'cn  mine. 

**  All  by  dearest  ties  I  love. 
For  their  weal  stand  guard  above  ; 
All  men,  great  and  small  to  Thee, 
To  Thy  care  committed  be. 

"  To  sore  hearts  send  rest  and  peace. 
Weeping  eyes  their  anguish  cease  ; 
Let  the  moon  from  heaven  behold 
Quiet  wrap  us  in  its  fold." 

"SPHiERA  Cujus  Centrum,"  etc.  (4*'»  S.  viii. 
329;  ix.  266.)— Mr.  Marshall  will  find  a  still 
earlier  notice  of  this  idea  than  1577  in  the  cele- 
brated romance  of  Rabelais  {Gargaiitua  et  PaiUa- 
gruel,  book  iii.  chap.  13),  which  is  believed  to 
have  been  written  in  1532.  In  my  French  volume 
{Beautiful  Thoughts  from  French  Authors^  p.  223) 
he  will  see  it  referred  to  at  the  quotation  from 
Pascal.    Rabelais  says : — 

''En  contemplation  de  ceste  infinic  et  intellectuelle 
sphere,  le  centre  de  laquelle  est  en  chascun  lieu  de  Tuni- 
vers,  la  circonft^rence  point  (c'est  Dieu,  selon  la  doctrine 
de  Hermes  Trism^^stus),  h  laquelle  rien  ne  advient,  rien 
ne  passe,  rien  ne  ddchet,  tons  temps  sont  prdiens.'' 

Tennyson,  InMemoriam^  xxxiii.,  says  somewhat 
to  the  same  effect : — 

"  Whose  faith  lias  centre  everywhere. 
Nor  cares-  to  fix  itself  to  form." 

In  a  note  (i.  474)  to  the  edition  of  the  works 

of  Rabelais  by  Burgaud  des  Marets  et  RiUhcry 

(Paris,  1857),  the  following  observation  is  found : 

"Cette  d<5iinition  gcfomctrique  de  la  Divinity,  attribuce 
par  Voltaire  2i  Timee  de  Loores  ....  parait  devoir  Otre 
ddfinitivement  restitute  2i  Empedoclc,  que  Vincent  de 
Beauvais,  d*aprcs  le  pofite  du  xii«  sibcle  Ilelinaud,  de- 
signe  formellemcnt  commc  Tautcur  de  cette  belle  image." 

Hero,  then,  we  have  it  mentioned  by  a  poet  of 
the  twelfth  century.  Is  anything  known  of  lieli- 
naud?  C.  T.  Ramagk. 

[Daniel  H^inand,  I^rench  monk,  theologian,  poet,  and 
historian  (obit.  1229),  is  noticed  by  Didot,  NouwlU  Bio- 
graphie  Unictrselle,  ed.  1852-66,  and  by  Michaud,  Biogra- 
phie  Universelle,  1843-66.— Ed.J 


''Are  tov  there  with  your  Bears P"  0^8. 
ix.  137,  228.)— This  is  an  original  Joe  mXkti, 
No.  123,  but  is  not  found  in  Whitak6r*s  ezpnr- 
gated  edition.  It  professes  to  record  the  unaeealr 
exclamation  of  a  parishioner,  who,  having  hein 
a  clergyman  preach  on  the  story  of  Eliaha  and  Aa 
she  bears,  and  not  at  all  relishing  the  moraly  went  to 
a  neighbouring  church  next  Sunday.  To  hii  di^ 
comfiture  the  same  clergyman  made  his  appMr- 
ance  in  the  pulpit,  when  the  agonised  anditor 
could  not  resist  the  temptation  of  crying  out— ''01 
ho !  are  you  here  with  your  bears  a^^ain  P  " 

Possibly  it  was  a  psrt  of  Mr.  Miller*s  own  «s« 
perience  when,  giving  up  his  usual  booth  it 
Bartholomew  Fair,  he  retired  to  live  at  Strand-on- 
the-Green,  and  may  have  hesitated  betwett 
attending  church  at  Brentford  or  Ohiswick. 

K  CTTNnrGHAVL 

PUR6Y  (4«»  S.  ix.  263.)— The  word  "pnigy"  « 
in  common  use  in  the  West  of  Englana,  bat  not 
in  the  sense  described  by  Snt  Thoxab  Wnmis- 
TON.  It  means  "  thickset,"  "  short,"  "  fat"  Thw 
is,  however,  another  word  in  use  not  very  nnliki 
*^  purgv,"  which  has  precisely  the  meamng  gins  i 
by  Sir  Thomas.  Thb  is  "  perky."  Is  it  poMbb  ' 
that  he  has  mistaken  the  word  P 

JoHir  Maguav*     j 

Hammersmith.  1 

Jamieson  gives — "Pirsk.  Conceited,  loth;  R 
par  soy,  by  one^s  self."  John  Abbi%  JLht 

Captive's  Coffin  in  Prospect  (4'*  S.ix.  88i) 
The  tale  of  "  The  Iron  Shroud "  wm  told  kf 
William  Mudford  in  BlackwoaeTa  MagatmBf  Am 
1830.  The  scene  is  there  laid  in  the  ctflkS 
the  Prince  of  Tolfi,  which  was  "built  on  tto 
summit  of  the  towering  and  precipitous  vodJE  v 
Scylla,  and  commanded  a  maimincent  view  dL 
Sicily."  W.  T.  M. 

SBiiittWnxLtnvitm 

NOTES  ON  BOOKS.  KXa 

BeunarCa  Meriattk,  The  Life  of  Saint  Meriaadk,  BUn^ 
and  ConfesKor,  A  Comith  Drama,  Sdiitd,  mA  ^ 
Translation  and  NoUs,  by  Whitley  Stokes.    (TrIlbMfc. 

The  MS.  from  which  this  carious  and  valoiiUt 
tion  to  the  small  stock  which  we  possess  of  the  01d( 
language  and  literatare  is  takeir;  wasdiseoveFedaomi 
years  a^^o  by  Mr.  Wynne  of  Peniarth  among  the 
^wrt  MSS.  'in  his  library,  and  is  believed  to  be  iii 
handwriting  of  "  Dominas  Hadton,"  who  is  stated  iai 
colophon  to  have  finished  it  in  the  year  1501;  lMt< 
MS.  has  been  corrected  in  several  places  by  a  sol 
possessor,  who  has  inserted  the  stage  directloiUL    A ' 
small  portion  (some  thirty-six  lines^  was  printed  ta' 
Archceologin  CamhrenMis  for  1S69  by  the  BsT.  Bflhi^ 
Williams  of  Rhydycroesau,  bat  the  drama  is  aowgfaj** 
for  the  first  time  in  a  complete  fonn  by  Mr.  wUiljr 
Stokes,  who  has  taken  great  pAins  toprodnee  tliB  vvAfc- 
a  manner  which  shoald  be  satislketory  to  stodeots  rf  W    ] 
Cornish  and  crediuble  to  himselll     His  iatwds^iW    i 
though  short  is  complete  and  to  ths  pwpOit. 
with  a  careful  description  of  tha  ICBw    Ali  il 


X.  April  13,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


311 


jtrmct  of  the  plot  of  the  drama,  which  is  founded 
stories  not  very  skilfully  interwoven  by  the 
;— viz.  (1)  that  of  Saint  Meriasek,  which  is  given 
oUandiats  (June  7)  under  the  title  De  Sancto 
o;  (2)  that  of  S.  Silvester  and  Constantine, 
well  told  by  Mrs.  Jameson  in  her  Sacred  and  Le- 
irt ;  and  (3)  a  story  of  the  Virgin's  rescue  of  the 
ulieris,"  of  the  origin  of  which  story  the  editor 
his  ignorance.  These  are  followed  by  a  notice 
<»lities  mentioned  in  the  play,  and  lastly  by 
larks  on  the  language— (Middle  Cornish,  rather 
dem  than  that  of  The  Passion  and  the  dramas 
'  Mr.  Norris)— and  of  the  metres  in  which  it  is 

• 

<€ae  New  Testament  with  the  Douay  Version  of 
Parallel  Columns.  (Bagster.) 
,  as  the  title-page  shows,  a  copy  of  the  Vulgate 
tament  accompanied  by  the  translation  which 
inist  exiles  at  Rheims  in  the  reign  of  Elizabeth 
for  their  fellow-countr}*men  and  co-religionists, 
me  way  as  the  Protestant  exiles  at  Geneva  had 
the  preceding  reign ;  and  there  are  doubtless 
aders  who,  without  reference  to  the  polemical 
roversial  questions  connected  with  this  transla- 
'  be  glad  to  have  the  means  of  consulting  these 
ons  in  this  well- printed  and  convenient  form. 

ical  Table  ;  showing  the  Royal  Descents  of  cer- 
•anches  of  the  Ancient  Family  of  the  Metcalfes  of 
in  Wensleydale,  emblazoned  with  Forty-seven 
f  Arms,  Crests,  and  Badges. 
a  late  worthy,  if  not  verj-  accomplished  Secre- 
le  Society  of 'Antiquaries,  published  his  Collec- 
a  History  of  the  Ancient  Family  of  Carlisle,  the 
ed  forth  the  remark  from  the  erudite  Keeper  of 
•ds  at  the  Tower— *' It  is  lucky  the  man's  name 
Smith ! "  We  do  not  say  the  same  of  the  entbu- 
mpiler  of  the  handsomely  executed  genealogical 
the  Metcalfes,  in  which  is  shown  their  descent 
of  their  kindred  and  allies  from  royal  person- 
i  compilation  has  obviously  been  a  labour  of 
d  only  if  his  enthusiasm  is  shared  by  all  the 
and  connections  of  his  family  can  Mr.  J.  H. 
by  whom  the  chart  has  been  prepared,  hope  to 
ae  smallest  reward  for  the  time,  labour,  and 
(rhich  it  must  have  cost.  The  Metcalfe  pedigree, 
three  royal  descents  are  shown  through  certain 
lilies,  is  carried  back  to  Adam  de  Medecalf  de 
emp.  Hen.  III.,  and  is  not  a  mere  dry  record  of 
id  dates,  as  many  interesting  family  traditions, 
ital  inscriptions,  grants  of  arms,  and  historical 
I  given  in  notes,  which,  together  with  the  nu- 
mblazoned  shields  of  arms,  are  calculated  to  in- 
n  those  persons  who  have  but  a  slight  know- 
heraldf}',  and  but  little  sympathy  with  the 
the  genealogist. 

n  Society.— The  readers  of  Mr.  W.  D.  Christie's 
he  First  Earl  of  Shaftesbury  will  doubtless  re- 
the  good  use  made  by  that  gentleman  of  the 
9n  Correspondence,  and  will  be  glad  to  hear  that 
ut  to  edit  it  for  the  Camden  Societv  under  the 
Letters  written  from  London  to  Sir  Joseph  Wil- 
rhile  lMenipotentiar\'  at  the  Congress  of  Cologne 
ears  1673-4,  illustrative  of  the  History  of  the 
Cabal  Ministry.'* 

OKAriiT  AND  War.— The  use  of  photographer  as 
of  sending  messages  to  and  from  Paris  during 
rar  was  fully  described  in  "  N.  &  Q."  of  Feb.  4, 
lie  following  paragraph  affords  a  curious  illus- 
f  the  practice,  and  shows  what  great  ends  may 
plished  by  small  means :— "One  oance  weight  of 


collodion  sheet  is  capable  of  containing  about  2^00,000 
microscopic  messages  of  twenty  words  each.  Tfads  gives 
66,000,000  of  words  iper  ounce,  or  aboat  seventy  times  the 
letterpress  contained  in  the  Holy  Bible.'* 

Reconstitution  of  the  Municipal  Librjlbt  of 
Stkasburo. — The  numerous  cares  and  heavy  obligations 
which,  after  the  siege  of  Strasburg,  were  laid  upon  the 
municipal  authorities  have  prevented  them  till  now  nn- 
dertaking  the  restoration  of  the  library  destroyed  in  the 
night  of  August  24, 1870.  Whilst  the  University,  recently 
founded  in  Strasburg  by  the  German  government,  was 
busy  in  adding  new  treasures  to  the  ancient  academical 
library,  which  has  entirely  escaped  the  destroying  effects 
of  the  bombardment,  the  same  efforts  could  not  be  at- 
tempted by  the  city  for  the  purpose  of  obtaining  by  the 
means  of  generous  benefactors  some  compensation  for  so 
many  irrevocably  lost  treasures.  The  Municipal  Council 
has  now  come  to*  the  resolution  of  creating  a  new  library, 
and  a  commission,  presided  over  by  the  Mayor,  has  issued 
an  appeal  for  contributions  to  all  who  feel  with  them  the 
cruel  pain  of  seeing  so  inestimable  and  carefully  gathered 
treasures  destroyed  in  a  moment.  Persons  wishing  to  take 
part  in  the  creation  of  the  new  library  are  requested  to 
send  books  or  manuscripts,  or  objects  of  art  or  archssology, 
to  the  Moire  de  Strasbourg,  addressed  '*  BibUotheque 
municipale  de  Strasbourg.** 

In  a  letter  to  the  Guardian  Canon  Gregory  states  that 
at  the  last  meeting  of  the  St.  PauFs  Restoration  Com- 
mittee it  was  decided  to  call  in  additional  professional 
advice. 

BOOKS    AND    ODD    VOLUMES 

WAlfTEB  TO  PURCHASE. 

PsrtieaUri  of  Price,  ac.  of  the  ibllowinf  bookf  to  be  lent  direct  to 
the  gentlemen  by  whom  they  are  required,  whoee  namei  and  addrsMee 
are  given  for  that  purpoee  ^— 

Ottwat'8  Nkws  raox  thb  IinnsiBLa  World. 
Do&AH's  QuKFxs  or  Emolavd.   s  Vols. 

MlOOLAB'S  ORDCR  of  PRRCKDRXOB. 

Wanted  by  Mttsn.  H.  Sotheran^  J.  Boer,  ^  Co^  198,  Strand,  W.C. 

RusRiH's  HODKR9  PAismRS.   Yol.  HI.  in  food  Condition.   Alao, 
VoU.  III.  and  IV.,  good  condition  not  material. 

Wanted  by  Meur$.  BeU  4-  Daidy,  York  Street,  Corent  Garden,  W.C. 


G.  W.  M.  (Ta.xinU}n).'-TVie  scandal  against  Queen  Elir- 
abeth  has  been  discutsed  in  our  1**  S.  vols.  ii.  iii.  ir. ;  '^^ 
S.  vols.  vii.  viii. ;  4"»  S.  ii.  889,  499,642,  684. 

A.  J.  {ante,  p.  263)  may  obtain  a  copy  o/Ajax's  Speech, 
&c,ofA.  Brown  Sf  Co.,  Aberdeen,  price  4d. 

Botdell's  Prints.— 7^  gentleman  who  wrote  to  the 
Rev.  J.  C.  Jackson,  Hackney,  is  requested  to  send  hiM  ad- 
dress, as  it  has  been  mislaid. 

H. — TAe  quotation,  **F1esh*d  thy  maiden  tword,**  is  in 
Shakespear/s  Henry  IV.,  Part  I.  Act  V..Sc.  4. 

J.  S.  (York.) — The  custom  at  some  weddings  in  York- 
shire  of  pouring  hot  water  on  the  front  door-steps  has  been 
given  in  "  N.  4  Q.**  4»i»  S.  v.  172. 

L.  Marshall  (Manchester).— For  some  account  of  a 
poisonous  water  called  Tophania  (Aqua  tufanfa),  ana  the 
**Slow  Poisoners"  of  England,  Italy,  and  France,  see 
Dr.  Mackay*s  Memoirs  of  Popular  Delusions. 

J.  Thompson  (Brighton). — Our  familiar  saying,  **To 
make  a  man  pay  through  the  nose/*  has  its  semblance  in 
another  kind  of  cajolery  as  expressed  by  the  French  phrase, 
**  To  extract  the  maggots  from  a  man*s  nose,**  that  is,  to 
pump  him,  to  extract  his  secrets,  **  tirer  les  vers  du  nez  a 
quelqu^un." 

L.  Sanders  (Westminster).— ^n  excellent  account  of 
the  history  of  the  Great  Tom  Bell  of  Westminster  is  given  tn 


312 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[4Aaix.Am 


Sir  ITemy  Elfu^i  edUlon  of  Dugdale't  St  Paul's  Cathe- 
dral, p.  1»4. 

H.  Stewart.— Tfce  origin  of  the  legend  of**The  Three 
Crocks  of  GtUd "  is  purdy  Eastern,  It  %$  given  by  Mr, 
Lane  in  kit  Arabian  Talcs  and  Anecdotes. 

JoHX  PlTSfAN. —  Who  the  recent  author  was  tfiat  boasteti 
that  he  was  the  first  to  introduce  the  word  Fatherland  into 
EngHah  we  cannot  say  ;  btU  the  term  wtu  undoubtedly  in 
n$e  two  centuries  ago.  Thomas  Odell  has  entitled  his  work 
A  Brief  and  Short  Treatise  called  the  Christian's  Pilgrim- 
age to  his  Fatherland.    Amsterdam,  1635,  4to. 

J.  Perry. —  We  regret  that  we  are  unable  to  find  space 
for  the  musical  queries. 

D.  P. — The  use  of  the  article  in  the  case  referred  to  is 
undoubtedly  wrong,  and  of  course  offends — especially  the 
ear  of  a  university  man. 

Joiix  PiOGOT.—  With  reference  to  the  Sobieski  query, 
Jtt  p.  211  under  "Notices  to  Correspondents.** 

"That  Man's  Fathkr,"'  &c. —  We  cannot  insert  more 
on  this  subject  ;  a  further  reference  should  have  been  given, 
4«»  S.  vii.  24. 

*'  Still  Waters,"  &c. —  That  this  query  has  been  well 
ventilated  in  our  columns,  and  that  recently,  the  following 
references  will  show:—^^'^  S.  vu.  156,  270  ;  4'»»  S.  iv.  133, 
420,  542  ;  v.  46,  260  ;  vi.  185,  257,  424. 

A.  M. — Before  sending  your  query  consult  the  General 
/iMfetesc/"*N.  4Q." 

Rev.  R.  H.  Da  vies  {Chc[»ea).'^For  the  descendants  of 
John  Dudley,  Duke  of  Northumberland  {beheaded  1553), 
consult  Arthur  Qtliins's  Memoirs  of  the  Sidneys  and 
Dudleys,  prefixed  to  Letters  and  Memorials  of  State,  2  vols. 
1746,  fol.,  andthe  following  works  printed  at  the  Lee  Frioiy 
Press  .*— Sydney  Family,  1816,8vo ;  and  Sydney  Pedigrees, 
2  Tables,  8vo. 

JfOTICE. 

To  all  communications  should  be  affixed  the  name  and 
address  of  the  sender,  not  necessarily  for  publioation,  but 
as  a  guarantee  of  good  faith. 

We  beg  leave  to  state  that  we  decline  to  return  com- 
munications which,  for  any  reason,  wc  do  not  print ;  and 
to  this  rule  we  can  make  no  exception. 

All  communications  should  be  addressed  to  the  Editor 
at  the  Office,  43,  Wellington  Street,  W.C. 


The  Vellum  Wove  Club-house  Paper, 

Manufactured  exmcnlT  to  meet  an  nnlrenally  experienced  want,  t.  «•.  a 
pamr  which  shall  In  itself  cumblne  a  perfectly  Hmouth  surl'uce  witli 
conl  freedom  fivm  eretne. 

The  New  Vellum  Wove  Club-Houae  Paper 

will  be  found  to  poasets  these  peculiarities  completely,  hcing  made  from 
the  best  linen  racs  only,  uoMCUHinff  great  tenacity  and  durability,  and 
nreseutini;  a  surface  equally  well  adapted  for  quill  or  stevl  pen. 

The  NEW  VELLUM  WOVE  CLUB-HOUSE  PAPER  surpaases 
•11  otliers  for  smoothness  of  surikoc,  delicacy  of  colour,  firmness  of  tez- 
tare,  entire  absence  of  any  colourinR  matter  or  injurious  diemicals, 
ItndJnjc  to  impair  its  durability  or  in  auy  way  alftctinR  its  writiiiK  pro- 
Dertiea.— A  Sample  Pai-ket,  ouutainin^  *Q  Asaortment  of  the  various 
Sixes,  post  tret  for  S4  Stamps. 

FAIITRIDUE  &  C<X)PRR.  Mannfkcturcn  and  Sole  Vendors. 
108.  Fleet  Street,  E.C. 


FRENCH,    9,    Rr.yal   >icchango,    London,   Watch, 
Clock,  and  Clirununicter  Maker.    Etftublished  a.d.  1810. 


ME.  HOWARD,  Surgoon-Dentiflt,  52,  Fleet  Street, 
has  introduced  an  entirely  new  description  of  ARTIFICIAL 
STH,  fixed  without  spriniot,  wires,  or  ligatures.  They  so  resemble 
thft  natural  teeth  as  not  to  be  dlstiniruishe<l  from  them  by  the  closest 
obaeryer.  This  method  does  not  rvtiuirc  the  extraction  of  roots,  or 
«ny  painfVil  operation ;  will  sup^rart  and  preserve  loose  teeth,  and  is 
fuaraatced  to  reitore  articulation  and  mastication.  Decayad  teeth 
ctovped  sad  reodeitd  lound  and  uwftil  in  mastication. 

5t,  Fleet  SttMt.  At  home  from  10  tUl  5,  ConfolUUoni  ftte. 


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HERALDIC,  ECCLESIASTICAL,  and 

FLAGS  and  BAN2CERS,  As.  ftc 
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OLD  ENGLISH"  FURNIT 

Reproductions  of  Simple  and  Artlatle  Ckbbiet  WoA  fti 
ii  aiulona  of  the  XVI.  and  XVn.  Genturica,  oomUnliic 
aoirad  workmaaihlp.  Hid  ■wiiibij 

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CABIITET  MAHSB8, 

109,  FL££T  STREET,  £.a  EaUbliiWI 

TAPESTRY  PAPERHANQIh 

Imitations  of  rare  old  BBOCADES,  DAMABKB,  a^< 


COLLINSON  and  LOOK  (late  Hi 
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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


313 


LOWDOir,  SATURDAF,  APRIL  20, 1872. 


CONTENTS.— N«.  225. 

NOTES :  —  Edward  of  Salishuir,  31S  —  **  Warborton's  Lot- 
ten  to  Doddridge/*  316  —  Pamh  Registers. lb.  —  Iambics: 
Hexameters.  316  —  Inscriptions  on  Bells  —  The  Altar 
Cloths  of  Old  St.  Paul's  —  Bums  and  Campbell  —  A  Coin- 
cidenco  —  Holborn  Visduct  —  Walking  under  a  Ladder  — 
Meaning  of  the  Verb  "  to  jew  »*  —  Dukedom  of  Edinburgh 

—  Pepper's  Ghost  attticlpatHl  —  Lord  Brougham  and  hit 
Materuid  Ancestors  —  Uouseling  Cloths,  316 

QUERIES :  —  *'  Address  to  the  Mummy  "  —  Anonymous  — 
"The  Boar  Hunt"  —  Crozier  Fsmily  — Allan  Cunning- 
ham, the  Biographer— Die,  Dice  —  Horace  and  his  Editors 

—  "Just  like  Lovo"  — J.  Kipling  — A  Lenten Castom — 
Mary  G.  Lewis  —  Proverb  — Quotations—  Soman  Nu- 
merals —  Salt  thrown  over  the  Shoulder  —  A  Suicide  — 
Surnames  —  "  To  tinker  **  —  Tassie's  Seals  —  Rer.  W. 
Wickenden  —  Windibank,  318. 

REPLIES:  —  Who  was  Mayor  of  London  in  1335.  321'— 
Gourmand :  Gourmet,  lb.  —  Oliphant  Barony.  322— Ameri- 
can Centenarians,  323  —  Sir  Boyle  Roche,  324  —  Weston- 
super-Mare  —  Finger  Cakes,  Llantwit  Major  —  Ancestry 
of  Preaident  Washington  — "  Pl(»Mh'd  thy  Maiden  Sword" 
— U.M.S.  •*  Chanticleer"  —L^)rd- Lieu  tenant  —  Microcosm 

—  ••  Gutta  cavat  lapidem,"  Ac.  —  Echeles  —  Serjeant  — 
Beorea- Three  L«>aves  eaten  for  the  Holy  Sacrament  — 
Black  Rain  —  " The  Ballad  of  Flodden  Field"  —  Homeck 
and  Jessamy  —  Giiwvison  —  Round  Towers  of  Norfolk  — 
"  I  know  on  which  Hyde  my  Bread  is  buttred  "  —  Joshua 
Brookes.  F.tt.S.  —  "Gentle"  —  Luther  —  "God  in  the 
Generations  of  the  Righteous"  —  Liquids  —  "  Aired"  — 
Ranx-des-Vaches  —  Burns  and  Keble  —  History  of  the 
Taudois  —  Shakespeare:  Contemporary  Criticism  —  The 
Influence  of  Diet  on  Life,  &c.,  323.  . 

Notes  on  Books,  &o. 


EDWARD  OF  SALISBURY. 

So  mach  has  been  written  about  Edward  of 
Salisbury  the  Domesday  sheriff  of  Wilts  and  his 
heirs,  that  many  people  will  suppose  it  to  be  an 
«xhausted  subject,  on  which  nothing  more  remains 
to  be  said,  lloweyer,  the  received  accounts,  in 
spite  of  their  number  and  length,  all  leave  a  resi- 
duum of  difficulties,  which  seem  to  me  capable  of 
solution. 

The  received  history  of  this  family  is  derived 
more  or  less  directly  ixom  the  History  of  Lacock 
Abbey  bv  Bowles,  if  he  can  be  called  the  author 
of  a  book  in  which  the  statements  of  his  text  are 
systematically  controverted  by  the  not«3  of  Mr. 
J.  G.  Nichols  and  the  appendices  of  Stapleton. 
This  very  puzzling^  method  of  including  in  one  book 
the  researches  of  three  different  authors,  each  con- 
tradicting and  correcting  the  other,  has  induced  most 
leaders  to  prefer  the  briefer  and  clearer  narrative, 
which  was  contributed  by  Mr.  J.  G.  Nichols  to  the 
Salisbury  volume  of  the  Archteological  Institute. 
Mr.  Nichols  has  embodied  in  his  "  Memoir  on  the 
Earldom  of  Salisbury  "  the  critical  corrections  of 
Stapleton,  but  he  has  overlooked  that  in  one  im- 
portant particular  Stapleton  discovered  on  further 
research  that  he  had  been  mistaken,  and  with  the 
candour  which  distinguished  that  ^at  genealo- 
gist, he  in  the  HotuH  Nonnarmia  (u,  49)  convicts 
Eimself  of  error  in  haying  suppoeed  that  £Uy 


Countess  of  Salisbury,  had  two  sisters  of  the  whole 
blood,  as  he  had  stated  in  Lacock  Abbey,  and  as 
Mr.  Nichols  repeats  in  his  Memoir. 

This  recantation  of  Stapleton  is  the  more  im» 
portant  because  it  vindicates  the  accuracy  of  the 
Chronicle  of  Lacock,  which  distinctly  asserts  that 
the  Countess  £la  was  the  only  child  of  her  parents. 
The  Book  of  Lacock  is  included  in  the  Cotton 
MSS.,  and  was  almost  destroyed  in  the  fire  of 
1731,  but  the  fragment  which  has  been  preserved 
is  one  of   the  most  valuable  of   the   monastic 
chronicles,  and  has  stood  the  test  of  the  severest 
criticism.    It  was  compiled,  in  its  present  form^ 
during  the  lifetime  of  Isabella,  queen   of   Ed- 
ward II.,  and  the  general  accuracy  of  its  state- 
ments, combined  vrith  its  remarkable  omissions  of 
persons  and  family  events  not  connected  with  the 
succession  of  the  Wiltshire  estates,  sufficiently 
proves  that  it  was  compiled  from  local  records^ 
and  that  the  writer  strictly  confined  himself  to 
facts  of  which  he  had  the  nroofs  before  hinu 
Some  of  the  most  striking  indaents  in  the  history 
of  this  family  were  of  foreign  occurrence,  and  are 
altogether  ignored  by  the  chronicler  of  Laoodc. 
For  instance,  the  only  daughter  of  Walter  of  Salis- 
bury married  no  less'  personages  than  Kotro  Count 
of  JPerche,  and  then  Kobert  Count  de  Dreux 
of  the  blood-royal  of  France,  and  yet  she  is  not 
mentioned  in  the  genealogy.    The  same  silence  is 
observed  respecting  the  two  foreign  wives  of  Earl 
Patrick  who  were  both  of  princely  houses,  and 
about  the  origin  of  his  earldom ;  nor  did  the 
chronicler  know  that  the  vridow  of  Earl  William 
was  buried  in  the  Abbey  of  Mondaye  near  Ba^eux, 
as  was  unquestionably  the  case.    These  consider** 
tions  naturally  suggest  that  in  reconstructinff  the 
pedigree  of  the  £ark  of  Salisbury  we  may  rely  on 
the  positive  statements  of  the  Lacock  Chromde^ 
but  must  expect  to  find  those  members  of  the 
family  omitted  whose  career  and  estates  were 
foreign  to  Wiltshire. 

I  proceed  to  show  how  this  canon  of  criticism 
bears  upon  the  difficulties  of  the  pedigree. 

Edward  of  Salisbury,  descended  from  a  common 
ancestor  with  the  Sieurs  de  Boumare  near  Rouen 
and  the  founder  of  St.  George's  Abbey  at  Bocher- 
ville,  was  invested  with  the  shrievalty  of  Wilte 
long  before  Domesday,  for  "  Edward  Vice-comee" 
subscribed  the  charter  of  Selby  about  1076,  • 
charter  to  Malmesbury  in  1061,  and  another  to 
St.  Peters  Gloucester  in  1082.  In  the  reign  of 
William  Hufus  he  gave  his  daughter  Matilda, 
with  the  barony  of  Trowbridge,  to  Humphrey  de 
Bohun  II.,  whose  son  and  successor  was  of  full 
age  before  1120.  The  name  of  Edward  of  Salis- 
bury (without  the  title  of  Vice-comes)  is  said  by 
Mr.  Nichols  to  be  appended  to  the  charters  oif 
Savign^  in  1112,  but  I  do  not  find  it  in  Lobinean'' 
transcripts ;  I  cannot  doubt,  howeyer,  that  he  hi 
tnthority  for  his  attttAin«D&^  vds^.  V^uk  *Quak^^^Si«»- 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«»a.*-^ 


identical  witH  Edward  of  Salubuzy,  whom 

ierie  Vitalifl  meDtions  as  the  kiog's  standard 

arer  and  a  stout  warrior  at  the  battle  of  Bren- 

ale    in   1119.      This  same  Edward    and    his 

MinB  had  the  prudence  to  leave  the  Blanche- 

f  on  the  f:Te  of  its  fatal  voyafre  in  D»icember 

i20,  and  he  died  juat  before  1130,  for  the  Pipe 

toll  of  that  vear  include?  the  fine  for  his  widow's 

iecond  marria^'e  t'>  Pagan  de  Ilocton,  by  whom 

the  had  a  dau/hter. 

It  is  so  improbable  that  the  Domesday  sheriff 
would  be  a  stout  warrior  iu  1120,  and  would  leave 
A  marriageable  widow  in  IVjO,  that  Mr.  NicholB 
goggests  that  a  generation  must  have  been  omitted 
ID  the  pedigree,  and  that  Walter  of  Salisbury 
moat  have  been  the  son  of  a  second  Edward,  and 
the  grandson  of  the  liomesday  sheriff.  But  this 
theory  is  in  direct  contradiction  to  the  I^ok  of 
Lacock,  whose  high  authority  I  have  already  com- 
mented on,  and  which  in  this  case  is  confirmed 
by  the  independent  testimony  of  the  Chronicle 
of  IjHnthony,  which  distinctly  asserts  Walter  of 
Salisbury  to  be  the  brother  of  Matilda  de  Ik)bun, 
whilst  the  date  of  her  marriage  proves  that  she 
could  not  be  the  daughter  of  a  second  Irklward. 
We  must  therefore  look  for  another  solution  of 
the  nroblem. 

Mr.  Nichols's  theory  is  open  to  the  further 
objection,  that  it  obliges  him  to  assume  the 
existence  of  a  third  Edward,  whose  place  in  the 
pedigree  he  cannot  determine,  but  who  is  neces- 
sary to  account  for  two  records  of  later  date 
which  mention  the  name  of  Edward  of  Salisbury. 
The  nea  Roll  of  1203  (Plac,  AlAtrw.  p.  41)  re- 
cords a  suit  respecting  the  advowson  of  Ciunby  in 
Lincolnshire,  in  which  the  jury  found  by  their 
Terdict  that  Edward  of  Salisbury,  who  was  the 
eldest  brother  (frater  primogenifufi)  of  Graelent 
de  Tani,  had  a  daughter  Leonia,  who  married 
Robert  do  Stuteville,  and  recovered  this  ad  vow- 
eon  against  Graelent  in  the  reign  of  Henry  II. 
This  Leonia  is  mentioned  in  the  Rot.  de  Dominabus 
(p.  88)  as  a  widow  in  1185,  and  the  heiress  of 
I)edham  in  Essex,  which  formed  part  of  the 
Domesday  fee  of  Iloger  de  Kaimes.  She  is  de- 
scribed as  '^  do  parentela  Edwardi  de  Salesburia 
cz  parte  patris,  ct  ex  parte  matris  est  de  progenie 
Rogeri  de  Kaimes.''  On  the  same  page  of  the 
record  we  find  another  widow  *'  de  progenie 
Rogeri  do  lUdmes,''  Aliz  dc  Tani,  whom  we  know 
to  have  been  the  widow  of  I^cot  de  Tani,  and 
the  daughter  of  William  Fitz-Jocelin,  who  held 
two  knights  fees  in  Essex  under  Robert  de  Raimes 
in  the  Liber  Niger. 

Mr.  Nichols  suggests  that  "  the  words  '  frater 
primogenitus '  in  tte  Plea  Roll  probably  signify 
that  Edward  of  Salisbuiy's  wife  Leonia  was  the 
'tAav  fliflter  of  the  wife  of  Graelent  do  Tani,"  but 

"♦  ♦hft  confusion  here  made  be- 

— i»fnr.  I  cannot 


think  that  records  ought  to  be  interpreted  in  mdj 
other  sense  than  the  plain  and  natonl  meaniag 
of  the  words,  and  especially  when  so  atnined  an 
interpretation  is  not  oome  out  by  the  lacta  of  tll» 
case.  If  the  wives  of  Edward  and  Graelent  wen 
sisters,  the  wife  of  Graelent  must  also  haye  been 
a  coheir  of  Raimes,  whereas  there  is  no  gionnd 
whatever  for  suppodng  that  Graelent  or  hia  hein 
had  any  interest  in  the  inheritance  of  Raimee.  It 
is  quite  immaterial  whether  Picot  de  Tani  was  or 
was  not  related  to  Graelent,  for  his  widow's  in- 
terest in  the  fee  of  Raimes  was  derived  from  her 
parents  and  not  from  her  husband. 

I  now  venture  to  offer  my  own  solution  of  the 
problem. 

I  believe  that  Edward,  the  Domesday  aherii^ 
after  the  death  of  the  mother  of  Walter  of  SiJi^ 
bury  and  Matilda  de  Bohun,  married  a  aecond 
wife  Matilda,  and  had  by  her  a  son  of  hia  own 
name,  who  is  ignored  by  tLe  Chronicler  of  Lacock 
because  he  had  no  part  in  the  Wiltshire  inherit- 
ance. The  elder  Edward  died  in  the  reign  of 
William  Rufus,  and  his  widow  Matilda  quickly 
remarried  Asculf  de  Tani,  and  is  the  same  Matilda 
who,  with  her  husband  Asculf  and  her  son  Grae> 
lent  de  Tani,  granted  Fifhide  in  1107  to  the 
monks  of  Bermondsey.  In  this  way  the  jojogfn 
Edward  of  Salisbury  would  literally  oe  the  '^  filter 

Srimogenitus"  of  trraelent  de  Tani.  I  cannot 
oubt  that  Gunby  (which  belonged  in  Domeadaj 
to  Ralph  Fitz-Hubert  de  Rye)  was  the  inherit- 
ance of  Matilda,  and  that  after  her  death  it  mi 
wrongfully  detained  by  Graelent  de  Tani  htm 
the  infant  heiress  of  his  mother*8  first  Inaixiag^ 
until  her  husband,  Robert  de  Stuteyttle,  reeovena 
it  at  law. 

1  believe  that  the  younger  Edward  ia  the  wit- 
ness of  the  Savigny  Charters  and  the  hero  of 
Brenmule,  and  that  he  married  the  heireas  of  tfai 
Norman  fief  of  Raimes  in  the  Paya  de  Canii 
wherein  he  granted  rents  to  the  Aoboy  fovndii 
at  Bocherville  by  his  father*a  kinaman.    He  diift 
just  before  1130,  leaving  a  widow  who  lemaoM^ 
Pagan  de  Hocton,  and  an  only  daughter  Leoiia^ 
who  carried  the  seigneurie  of  Kumea  to  her  ha>  "* 
band  Robert  de  Stuteville,  who  at  the  reqneit  9^ 
his  wife  Leonia  confirmed  to  Bocherville  the  { ^^ 
of  Edward  of  Salisbury.    Leonia  muat  hava 
very  young  when  her  father  died,  for  ahe^ 
survived  her  husband,  and  their  only  ann 
de  Stuteville  confirmed  to  Welbeck  Abbsv 
grants  of  his  mother  "  Leonia  de  Raimei^  M 
yns  confirmed  in   her  Norman  inheritanea 
Philip  Augustus  after  the  conquest  of  NonnaS" 
Leonia  had  also  two  daughters,  one  of  wv 
married  Robert  de  BretteviUe,  and  had  fi>^ 
portion  the  manor  of  Gunby,  aa  stated  in  ihm^ 
Roll  of  1203. 

This  simple  explanation  aeemf  to  ma  to 
all  the  conditiona  of  the  proUeniy  and  to  m^ 


4/^  S.  IX.  Apsil  20, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


315 


for  every  exiating  record  which  bears  upon  the 
flubject.  I  have,  for  greater  clearness;  stated  my 
Tersion  of  the  pedigree  in  a  tabular  form  below. 

Conjectures  of  this  kind  are  always  liable  to  be 
modified  by  the  discovery  of  fresh  evidence  and 
the  acuteness  of  more  skilful  genealogists,  and 
therefore  it  is  well  that  they  should  be  subjected 
to  the  test  of  critical  discussion.  ''N.  &  Q.'^ 
leckons  amongst  its  contributors  the  well-known  I 


writer  from  whom  I  have  ventured  to  differ,  and 
who  of  all  others  is  the  best  qualified  by  his  pre- 
vious studies  to  detect  any  flaw  in  my  reasonug. 
Moreover,  Mr.  J.  G.  Nichols,  by  the  candoor 
with  which  he  accepted  my  remarks  on  his  ac- 
count of  the  Earls  of  liincoln,  has  earned  the  con- 
fidence of  your  readers  that  his  judgment  will 
not  be  influenced  by  hb  having  hitherto  main- 
tained a  different  theory. 


lit  wift  s  Edwmrd  of  Salisbury,  nheriffof  WUta. 
Sheriff  1076.  lOHl.  loes.  10M6.  ReUted 
to  the  founder  of  the  Abbey  of  Bo- 
eherrillc. 


tad  wlfb.  Matilda,  dao.  of  f  Ralph  Fits-nnbert  =  tad  husband.  Aaeulf  da  Tanl. 


Walter  of  Sail  •• 

bury,  ion  and 

hair. 


Matilda,  married 

tfmp.  Will.  II. 

Humphrey  de 

Bohun  II. 


de  Rye.    Wife  of  Aiculf  and  mother  of  Oraa- 
lent  in  1107.    Lady  ot  Ounby,  ca  Linoolzu 


Oeioanded  from  Bo«er  de  Raimei  of  Domeaday . 


Oranted  with  hif  wife  and  won 
to  Bermondsey  in  1107. 


Edward  of  Saliibary  b =  tad  husband. 


occ.  lilt,  1119. 1110. 
Qranted  in  Raimcs 
to  Bocharrille  Ab- 
bey.   Dead  1130. 


deproffenfeRo- 

Eri  de  Raimet, 
iresa  of  the 
Norman  lief  of 
Rahnesi  remar. 
IISO.  Rot.  Pip. 


Paicande 
||octon. 


William  Fitz- 

Jooelin.  held  t 

kniffhU'  fee* 

from  Robert  d« 

Raimes  in  Liber 

Niger. 


de  progenia 
Rogeride 
Ralmea. 


Oiaeteldg 

Tani.  **  fkmter 

BdwidaSi^ 

nun.* 

Abbrw, 


Ouakf. 


I. 


Leonia,  Lady  of  Raimes.  heir  of  Gunbr, »  Robert  de  Stnterille.  Confirmed  Edward 
which  she  recovered  from  her  uncle  |        ofSalisbury's  grant  in  Ralmci. 
Oraelent.  temp.  Uen.  II.  Widow  IIM. 


J 


Aliz.  widow  in  llUof  Pleot  de  Taoi 
de  progenie  Rogeri  do  Baiiatf 
(Rot.  de  Dom.) 


Henry  de  Stuteville,  Sieur  de  Raimes  IMB. 


I 


A  dan.  married  Robert  de  Bretterille,  aad  had  Ounby  In  frank  marriage. 

TXWABS. 


« WARBURTON'S  LETTERS  TO  DODDRIDGE." 

Some  years  ago  I  picked  up  at  a  stall  a  slender 
volume  in  royal  8vo,  pp.  58,  containing  eighteen 
letters  from  the  celeorated  churchman  to  his 
Nonconformist  brother.  They  are  deeply  in- 
teresting, and  exhibit  the  character  of  the  former 
in  a  very  pleasing  light.  Their  tone,  in  addressing 
the  author  of  the  Family  Expositor,  is  that  of  pro- 
found respect  and  affection.  "  Difference  of  re- 
ligious persuasion/'  says  the  writer,  ''  never  was, 
I  thank  God,  any  reason  for  restraining  or  abating 
my  esteem  for  men  of  your  character  in  life  and 
learning.** 

I  remember,  since  this  acquisition,  to  have  had 
in  my  hands  a  second  copy ;  and  this  last  week 
has  brought  under  my  notice  a  thirds  which,  be- 
sides its  being  in  nice  condition,  in  half  morocco, 
announces  a  bibliographic  fact,  perhaps  of  suf- 
ficient importance  to  justify  this  short  "  note." 
It  possesses  the  autograph  of  ''  Henry  Pidgeon, 
1831,*'  chemist,  perfumer,  and  topographer  of 
Shrewsbury ;  and  also  the  earlier  one  of*'  Thomas 
Stedman,*'"the  editor,  with  the  statement  in  his 
handwriting  to  the  effect  that  ''  there  were  but 
twelve  copies  of  these  letters  printed.**  Of  the 
authenticity  of  this  statement  there  cannot  be  the 
•lightest  doubt,  strange  thoueh  it  .may  appear, 
that,  out  of  the  dozen  copies,  three  have,  witnout 
my  seeking  for  them,  fallen  in  my  way.  Another 
collector  may  not  be  so  lucky ;  but  he  need  not 
despair,  as  these  letters  are  actually  only  an  ex- 
cerpt, struck  off  for  some  purpose  in  a  separate 
form,  from  the  very  interestmg  volume  entitled — 


**  Letters  to  and  from  the  Rev.  Philip  Doddridge,  D.D^ 
late  of  XorthamptOD,  published  from  the  originals,  with 
notes,  explanatory  and  bioj^raphical,  bj  Thomas  Sted- 
man,  M.A.,  Vicar  of  St.  Chad's,  Shrewsbury.  Shrews- 
bury, 1790,"  8vo. 

Of  this  collection,  these  letters  from  Warburton 
to  Doddridge  are  numbered  46  to  63. 

For  the  benefit  of  those  whom  it  may  concern, 
I  may  as  well  state  that  the  choice  volume  which 
forms  the  subject  of  this  note  is  in  the  hands  of 
Mr.  Downing,  bookseller  of  this  town,  from  whom 
its  transference  may  readily  be  effected — for  a 
consideration.  William  Batbs. 

Birmingham. 

PARISH  REGISTERS. 

The  return  moved  for  by  Lord  Komilly  in  the 
House  of  Lords  on  March  19  relative  to  parish 
registers  will,  in  efiisct,  afford  much  the  same  in- 
formation as  is  given  in  vol.  iii.  of  the  PoyUUtUon 
Beiwms  of  1831,  in  which  are  shown  the  number  ' 
of  register  books  of  baptisms,  marriages,  and 
burials  in  each  parish  ;  the  dates  to  which  they 
respectively  extend;  their  degree  of  complete- 
ness, and  their  condition,  down  to  the  year  1812. 
Lord  Romilly*s  return  will  bring  down  similar 
information  to  the  end  of  last  year. 

The  question  of  the  custody  of  parish  registers 
is  one  of  considerable  importance  and  difficulty. 
So  far  as  my  experience  goes,  which  is  by  no 
means  small,  the  registers,  though  grossly  nav- 
lected  during  last  century,  are  now  ^reservoll^ra 
care,  though  ia  maacq  "^iiaDdMia  ^Soa  ^laSonti 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*8.  IX. 


dally,  require  to  be  rebound.    It  would  be  a  loss 
to  the  parochial  clergy  if  the  registers  were  re- 
moved from  their  custody  without  compensatioD, 
and  it  would  be,  in  many  cases,  a  great  incon- 
xenience  to  the  parishioners  if,  in  consequence  of 
the  removal  of  the  re^risters  to  London,  they  were 
precluded '  from  obtaining  information  from  them 
without  a  journey  thither,  or  the  employment  of 
an  agent,  at  perhaps  considerable  expense,  to  make 
the  neceasarv  searches  in  their  behalf.     It  seems 
to  me  that  the  difficulty  might  be  fnirly  met  in 
this  way,  viz.,  that  all  the   parochial   registers 
should  be  removed  to  the  custody  of  the  blaster 
of  the  Iiolls,  and  that  each  n^ctor  or  vicar  should 
be  fumislied  with  an  ofiicial  copy  of  his  own  re- 
gister, certified  extracts  from  which  sh«iuld  have 
the  same  force  as  if  made  from  the  originals.     By 
this  means  the  clergy  would  not  be  deprived  of 
iheir  fees,  and  both  they  and  their  parishioners 
would  be  able  to  read  their  registers,  which  now, 
as  regards  the  earlier  ones,  a  large  number  of  the 
clergy  are  unable  to  do ;  and  the  proper  prosen-a- 
tion  of  the  originals  would  bo  seourod,  whilst  op- 
portunity of  access  would  be  alForded  for  literary 
and  genealogical  purposes. 

As  regards  the  transcripts  directed  by  the 
seventieth  Canon  of  100:5  and  the  Act  of  r>2'r;eo. 
III.  cap.  14(5,  to  be  sent  to  the  bishops'  registries, 
it  matters  little  whether  they  have  been  so  sent 
or  not,  for  anything  more  discreditable  than  the 
manner  in  which  the.se  transcripts  have  been 
treated  it  is  imp(xssible  to  conceive.  Whatever 
may  be  the  decision  respecting  the  parochial  re- 
gisters, the  transcripts  in  the  episi-opal  registries 
should  be  transmitted  to  the  Uecord  Oilice  with- 
out delay,  there  to  be  repaired  and  arranged  ;  and 
in  future  the  incumbent  and  churchwardens  of 
every  parish  should  be  compelled  to  send  the 
transcnpts  thither  instead  of  to  the  bishop's  re- 
gistry. And  because,  in  consequence  of  the  legal 
abolition  of  church-rates,  no  fund  exists  from 
which  th(?  expense  of  making  the  transcripts  can 
be  paid,  the  churchwardens  should  be  enaoled  to 
recover  the  cost,  which  would  be  very  trifling, 
from  the  poor-rate  or  some  other  public  source. 

Joiix  Maclean. 
Hamnicrsmitli. 


IAMBICS:  IIEXAMETEKS. 

If  the  Ilomerism  of  the  Iliad  is  more  attractive 
than  its  suhjoct,  the  metre  most  analogous  thereto 
should  be  adopted  in  it<?  translation. 

The  Homeric  hexameter  possesses  between  its 
seventeen  and  thirteen  syllables  a  full  and  free 
yariety,  which  the  decasyllabic  prescription  of 
our  heroic  measure  possesses  not ;  the  energy  of 
a  single  line  elongated  into  a  line  and  a  half,  or, 
€X  necessitate  rhythmic  into  two,  becoming  sen- 
sibly impaired.     Let  me  not  be  charged  with  pre- 


sumption when  I  say  that  neither  Pope's 
nor  Cowper's  or  Lord  Derby's  blank-ven 
mated  their  decasyllabics  agunst  Home 
ameters.  Milton  himself,  vigorous  as  is 
ginal  epic,  could  hardly  have  accomplid 
traductive  feat. 

But  there  is  a  metre  almost  as  ancien' 
Homeric,  and  in  later  time  brought  wit 
syllables  of  its  average  —  the  iainhic  te 
catakciic;  not  only  accordant  with  tlii 
pensable  condition  of  accordance  with  ou 
and  prosody,  but  naturally  assimilated  ^ 
language.  Keleased  from  Chapman's  rhj 
Mr.  Newman's  semi-mute  bi-terminals — a 
men  would  say — it  might  run  neck-and-n< 
the  hexameter  of  the  old  Grecian. 

Seven  years  ago  my  version  of  the  nu 
scene  in  the  eighth  Iliad  was  graced  ^v 
acceptance  in  '*  N.  &  Q."  Having  enlar 
st(.>ck  of  Homeric  translations,  I  venture 
the  like  indulgence  for  another  sample 
national  iambics : — 

Iliad  xx.  w\  400 — 503. 

"As  when  tbc  Ughtning  flashes  down  a  mc 

woDdy  side. 
Through  the  parched  thickets  of  a  vale,  and  fi 

lowest  depth. 
Whilst  here  and  there  the  whirling  wind  sea; 

furioas  flame ; 
So,  Dicmon-likc,  he  right  and  left  roahedonwi 

his  spear. 
Holding  in  chase  the  doomed-ones  till  the  «i 

dark  with  blood  ; — 
As  when  the  husbandman  hath  yoked  bit  tf  ud; 

browod  steers. 
To  8he<l  the  ripened  com  along  the  well-laid  th 

fl«>or, 
Under  their  feet  doth  quickly  fall  the  finciy- 

grain; 
So  were  the  solid-hoofM  steeds  of  great  Adiillei 
Trampling  the  bodies  of  the  slain  beneath  tt 

tercd  shields. 
While  axle-deep  the   gore  is  splashed  np  ft 

reeking  soil 
On  hanicss.  bearing-rein,  and  tire,  and  double 

board: — 
For  thus  Pelides  to  himMlf  the  glory  yearned  t 
And  in  the  battlers  dost  aod  Uood  embmed  i 

(^ucring  hands.** 

Envuin)  Lenthall  Si 


Insct.iptioxs  on  Hells. — Great  Tom  at 
was  once  inscribed  with  the  words — 

**  In  Thonite  luade  rescmo  Bim  Bom  aine  fimni 
But,  I  suppose  because  this  '*  rude  rime  ^  ^ 
posed  to  the  delicacy  of  Oxford  schdazeh 

*  'no-el  vvp  Ziatt>K4^n   ^pv/Uw,  Avvl  fA^ 

6p7i — 

"  Like  as  the  fire  that  bufnctii  up  the 
the  flame  that  conaumeth  the  mmmtetna'" 
V.  18, 


NOTES  AND  dUEBIBa 


.,    ..MMilwtitatedforit. 

be  odguial  peal  of  three  belk  in  tlie  paziab 

of  CMltenhuB,  cMt  in  1633,  there  wai 
icriptioB — 

"Abraham  BudhaU  cut  ■!!  wee, 
KxUeD  hoodred  twentj-thres." 
lascriptioa'aa  the  preaent  tenor  bell  ii— 

prarri  tbe  living  do  combine, 
:  dead  sboU  hear  a  greater  loimd  than  mine." 
e  U  a  Terf  interettiagtet  of  uiMriptkaH  on 
nd  much  information  coDcernimr  them  in 
ava  of  our  FatAen,  bj  C.  H.  Hale,  iotbI 
[amilton  and  Adame),  1868,  p.  134,  IA. 
1  Quaierfy  Review,  tdL  xcr.  patiim  (Hnr- 
H.  B.  SunoF. 
Conage,  CbdtenlMM. 

belli  at  Northfield,  Wmceatenhiie,  beer 
awing  ioBcriptioDB :  — 
So.  1— 

"  Henry  Knowles,  Clerk. 
Thongh  once  bet  five,  we  aow  ttt  uz," 

>nd  'gunU  OBr  caMlng  lome  did  atriTe." 


"Appeared  nine  'gainst  twooty-«ij. 


.Del  Palmei  t  Ttiomai  Silk,  CbaKtaTardeBS." 

.6— 

au  Jenoiae,  Esq.,  paUran.  William  Worth,  D.D. 

wii  William  K«ttle  tbat  did  contriva 
I  make  oa  C  Uut  were  bat  5.    1730." 

RRF. 
iLTAB  Ci^TKB  Of  Old.  St.  Paul's. — As 
f  few  of  four  readers  have  bad  the  patience 
8  through  the  eighteen  Tolumee  of  the 
'«  BepaAa  bj  Fonz,  tbe  reioarka'he  makee 
I  reUc«  of  Old  Saint  Paul's,  when  speaking 
orioaties  he  saw  at  Valencia,  ni»j  be  new 

it  Taloe  is  alUched  to  Uiree  altaT-dDlba  (,fio»- 
emdiiim),  whicb  were  boogbt  in  Loadon  by  two 
t  named  Andrea  and  Pedro  de  Medina,  who 
c  when  tbe  ebange  in  relieion  happened.  It  ia 
lat  these  altar-clotha  were  uied  in  tbe  calbedral 
in.  They  are  of  exquisite  texture,  and  em- 
.  with  tbe  Asceneiou  of  Jeans  Christ  and  tbe 
ioD  of  Our  Lidr,  with  aiiffident  art.  They  are 
aod  eepeciillj  for  tbe  skill  ^own  in  the  em- 
nBcb  admired  by  those  peraona  who  ujoder- 

Balfh  N.  Jahis. 

4,Kat. 

n  ATD  Campbell.— The  original  of  the 
W  »  ■  li«  iiaHdwiitiDg  of  the  poet  Bom*. 
UMrt  the  reMlete  oE  "  N.  ft  ^ : — 


Aa- «en  khis  an  priaai  o*  arl^ 
WboH  Hka  a  pnstiytBiaD  BHeiH 


vm.        I    . 

"  Frith,  Jooi?.  I^  feq. 
•••  Vote  BMM.-I  ahoBld  hare  pot  ail  HMtMiart* 
th*  ri<^- in  wUlk  manaar  jodl  b*  pkaMd  te  n^  Ik 

Note  in  another  hand  — 

"  Wrlttan  In  Jenny  Dowk*i  taren,  Ubb«t|a%  Wjwt. 
EdiBberBh." 

^e  foUowing  ooriecticHi  of  the  fbnrth  vmb 
in  "Te  Harineia  tA  En^and"  ia  in  CampMtiK,  ' 
aatognyh :  — 

"  The  nelaer  Bag  •<  Sa^and 
Sian  yet  terrUe  bwn  ( 
THI  dannr'a  tnnbkd  night  dapait. 
A>d  tta  aMm  of  paaoa  ■Mam.* 
Campbell's  note :  — 

"  Tbia  hi  an  Important  oometk^  th*  otbMr  was  4m»- 
nridi  hideed.    Sea  OMtot  *  Bejd'«  editiML  

t  peaM"  baa,  J  baliefa,  MHni  Im 
oaafthispoaaa.  X.Wi.'Bam, 


A  ConcnHDOB. — 

"  I  beUan  tbat  thae  b  as  God,  bat  that  aatlar  il  IM 
andOodiaawttaa;  andthatltlaBD  ■a«a'WbatiMr*«ft 
la  any  Ood  or  no."— "the  Dnbdtofei^  Ceead,"  Cmmt^ 
**«r,VeL&.,lEanliSeilTH.  .    ' 

-  When  HA»  BirU7  Mid  •  thata  m  M  Mlki^^ 


HoLBOSR  ViADiroi. — le  the  foUowio^iMr- 
meot  oonect  t  It  appeais  iraithj  of  ptrnxwitiim  ' 
in'N.ftQ."  lextMOtitfronaeapitaftaUCgr 
rontha  and  young  nea  latd/  paWihad.  n» 
Butobiogia|iher  relates  the  remark  of  aa  old  frimA 
with  whom  he  waa  diiring  throng  the  Oilf  nanf 
yearaago:— 

-■I  alwan  tril  Xia. X. that  If  e*w  I  eewe  «•  ■» 
death  by  b^BK  drina  oter,  it  wIU  U  M  the  iaMth»«f 
IIidU>raBiUaiidFarrlB(doaBt)<eet.  Lata  of  mfh  tm 
run  orar  tban^  yon  fcnMr,  annsaUr,  bat  thn  an  Be- 
WietiOiM  «f  t&Mdma  awiri^wm  baOli^ii^ 
then  then  wlU  ba-e  FWmL*  WUch  ai]^[Bkr  |nrt- 
rioo  haa  soma  tcoe  litanlly.  Tb*  dawnnaa  asMkv 
naalrfl  In  In  animal  ihiiIIiIm  |rf  ilaMM  aail  'Tl  iWr 
tUl  only  a  very  few  yam  aco^aa  wniHfciii  emlac  Ml 

tiUdawBtb«bduMofBidbatBHIIl,iaaoT * ' 

Che  death  «f  a  ivj       "■'  -    -  -    .. 

meiehant,  W.  D.  Wl 
yiadiiet,ii)W<B»»iByiiat'tMidy.aa 
a^oty  Id  He.  Wllla  b  at  hMt  the  M 


Walpm  111—  A.  Lamm.  <»-.I-w»,  toU  <»       .<^ 
other  dsijthat  the  isHbo  it  h  vslod^  l»f!H>  :;^(H 


p.  111. 
^.I-v 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4AS.IZ.ApbilI0^'71 


under  ladders  is  because  one  was  used  at  the  cru- 
cifixion. Th.,K.  Tullt. 
Bronghton,  Manchester. 

[This  subject  has  been  broached  before  in  **  N.  &  Q.," 
tnVfe  S'^  S.  ix.  391,  460,  501;  x.  3G  ;  xii.  139.  At  the 
last  reference  it  is  stated  that  the  sapcrstition  took  its 
rise  in  t^  structure  and  formalities  of  the  gallows  at 
Tjbum,  where  there  was  no  platform,  but  to  which  the 
culprit  ascended  by  a  ladder  that  was  afterwards  with- 
drawn.—£d.] 

Meaning  of  the  Verb  ''to  jew." — The  Aihe- 
tutum  of  March  30  reports  from  the  New  York 
Illation  that  a  Jewish  gentleman  of  Columbia  has 
remonstrated  with  the  American  publishers  of 
Webster*8  and  Worcester's  dictionaries,  for  having 
^ving  an  intolerant  deHnition  of  the  verb  "to 
jew,"  which  they  give  as  meaning  "  to  cheat,  de- 
fraud, or  swindle."  The  defence  of  the  pub- 
lishers is,  that  the  word  is  one  of  those  to  which 
an  opprobrious  sense  is  attached  without  any 
offensive  meaning  being  necessarily  affixed  to  the 
original  word.  This  reminds  me  of  a  case  I 
once  knew,  where  a  Jew  himself  used  the  ob- 

i'ectionable  verb.  He  came  to  a  certain  neighbour- 
lood  where  I  was,  to  purchase  rabbit  skins,  and 
bought  a  considerable  number  of  a  tradesman 
whom  I  knew.  Some  time  after  he  again  visited 
the  place,  and  complained  that  the  skins  were 
almost  all  rotten  and  worthless.  The  tradesman's 
defence  was  that  the  purchaser  examined  them, 
asked  no  questions,  and  was  supposed  to  under- 
stand his  business.  Upon  whicu  the  Jew  said — 
"Ah,  well!  joiiWe  Jewed  one  who  h  ah  Jewed  a 
good  many;  come  and  dine  with  me  at  my  inn." 
The  tradesman,  however,  fearful  of  some  fresh 
illustration  of  the  verb,  politely  declined  the  invi- 
tation. F.  C.  H. 

Dukedom  op  EDiNBURGn. — It  is  pretty  gene- 
rally supposed  that  this  dukedom,  or  one  so  called, 
was  first  created  when  conferred  on  Prince  Alfred, 
the  second  son  of  her  present  Majesty ;  but  the 
title  had  been  previously  homo  by  Frederick 
Prince  of  Wales,  eldest  son  of  King  George  11., 
who  predeceased  his  father,  and  on  Xw  death  de- 
veended  to  his  son,  and  was  borne  by  him  while 
Qeorgc  II.  lived.  On  his  succeeding  to  the  throne 
it  merged  in  his  title  as  kinpr,  and  was  given  out 
by  him  to  his  brother  the  I)uke  of  Gloucester, 
whose  son  took  it  when  he  died.  The  latter 
married  Princess  Mary,  dau(]:hter  of  George  III., 
but  there  was  no  issue  of  that  marriage,  and  the 
title  became  extinct  when  this  sun  died,  and  her 
present  Majesty. gave  it  to  Prince  Alfred.  (See 
Ohamberlayne's  tState  of  Britain  for  1741  and 
175G)  as  to  the  earliest  part  of  the  preceding 
statement,  p.  3  of  the  official  lists  in  both  publica- 
tions. The  practice  had  been,  when  it  could  be 
followed,  to  create  the  sovereign's  second  son  Duke 
of  York|  but  that  was  changed  in  the  existing 
instance.  G. 


Pepper's  Ghost  anticipatbd. — ^Ih  Edgar  A. 
Poe's  Marginalia,  p.  61,  he  mentJonfl 

"  VoD  Kaumer  says  that  Eoalen,  a  German  phyifali^ 
conceived  the  idea  of  throwing  a  shadowy  fignrs  qy  opCt 
cal  means  into  the  chair  of  Banqao»  and  that  tha  tliM 
was  readily  done.  Intense  effsct  was  produced,  ndl 
do  not  doubt  that  an  American  aadience  might  be  tta 
electrified ;  but  our  managers  not  only  have  no  invMtia 
of  their  own,  but  no  energy  to  avul  themaelveB  of  tkit  tf 
others.'* 

H.  DiE 

LoBD  Brouohak  and  his  M atsbkal  Ajtcb- 
TORS.— In  the  first  volume  of  his  AMiMognfkgf 
Lord  Brougham  ascribes  his  possesaion  of  auperior 
faculties  to  his  descent  maternally  from  the  nooM 
of  Robertson  of  Strowan.  The  sept  RobertM^ 
or  clan  Donachie,  were  long  distinguished  io  thi 
Highlands:  the^  claimed  a  royal  pedigree.  Fva 
course  of  centuries  the  Strowan  or  Struan  RoImi^ 
sons  had  intermarried  with  the  best  Sootttt 
families.  The  hero  and  ^t,  Alexander  JUte^ 
son  of  Strowan,  who  died  in  1749,ia  the  anppoMJ 
protot^'pe  of  the  Baron  of  Bradwardine  in  Wtm^ 
ley.  Lonl  Brougham  ^ves  a  specimen  of  )k 
handwriting.  His  lordship  refers  ccmectly  enomji 
to  Principal  Robertson  the  historian  and  AdM 
of  Blair-Adam  beinff  descended  from  the  Pokrt 
sons  of  Strowan.  ^ut  he  seems  to  hafb  bill 
unaware  that  two  other  conspicuous  and  giM 
persons  are  supposed  to  have  inherited  theirno* 
from  the  same  source.  The  Rev.  FraoMk 
Robertson  of  Brighton  was,  his  father  niftmi 
me,  descended  from  the  Strowan  RobertMOs;  wi 
the  Baroness  Nairne,  author  of  the  "  Land  o*  Al 
Jjeal ''  and  so  many  popular  Scottish  S0Dg%  v^ 
through  her  mother,  a  direct  descendant  of  tti 
house.  Chabub  BosBii 

Snowdoun  Villa,  Lewiaham,  SJS. 

IIonsELiNo  Cix)Tiis. — It  is  not  generalljlBSW  ' 
that  houseling  or  husteling  cloths  are  still  «4 
but  only  in  one  place  that  I  know  of  in  Eugllii* 
viz.  in  VVimbome  Minster,  where  iJiey  are  wM 
have  been  used  continuously  since  its  foootf* 
in  the  reign  of  Edward  the  Confessor^  wiA<t^ 
only  exception  when  the  edifice  was  ooaiM^ 
into  a  stable  by  the  forces  under  GromwelL 

J.JnBOtf^ 

Poole  Road,  Wimbome. 

P.S.  The  curfew  bell  is  still  rung  at  tUiliB' 

ster  at  eight  o'clock  p.m. 

''Address  to  the  Mumict."— Who  wai^ 
author  of  ''Address  to  the  Mummy  in  BsIm^ 
Exhibition,''  given  in  Howen  of  ^fcjihiiahWL  jf 
William  Oxberrv,  2nd  edit  8tol  1894  L  W 
and  taken  from  tbe  Aew  Moftki^  Mmgmimf 

W, 


r  By  Horace  Smith :  see  Us 

1846.;] 


LIV 


4>kS,  EX.  AprilZO,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


319 


AXOXYJIOVB.— The  Table  Talker,  or  brief  Suagi 
on  Societif  and  Literature,  2  vols.  12(iin.  1840; 
Bome  of  these,  though  short,  are  Tory  wtll  written. 
la  it  hnowu  who  vaa  the  writer  ?  S.  Shaw. 

AndgTcr. 

"The  Boar  Hukt."— I  find  on  an  unfinished 
proof  of  a  boar  hunt,  painted  by  R.  Wilson,  that 
the  landscape  was  eugrsved  bv  B.  T,  Pouncy, 
the  figures  by  W.  Woullett  I  h'are  not  met  with 
any  account  of  B.  T.  Pouncj.  Is  Ihis  plate 
common  F  It  seems  to  me  one  of  the  lar^r  Boy- 
dell  landscape  series.  J.  C.  J. 

["  The  boar  bunt "  desoribcJ  by  J.  C.  J.  is  ninre  pro- 
p»rlj-  ipeaking,  "Tbe  Prjilli  of  Adcmis."  after  Kichwd 
Wilson  and  John  Hamillon  Murtinmr,  pngvaved  by 
Wiilism  WooUeit  and  B.  T.  Pouncv.  A  Blirirt  account 
of  the  latter  vill  be  found  in  Nayler'A  KUK§llrr-Lrxuon. 
Tbe  print  VBB  first  published  b.v  DoyJell  in  liGI  (not 
in  ■  neries),  ind  sflerwurds  by  K.  Saver  nnd  (i.  Uennett, 
in  177!i.] 

Crozier  Fakili. — Being  en^ged  on  a  Memoir 
of  this  family,  1  should  be  glad  of  any  general  in- 
IbrmatioD  respectini;  it,  as  located  on  tbe  Borders. 
Also,  any  particulars  us  to  tbe  connections  of  the 
It«v.  William  Crozit^r,  beneGced  io  the  North  of 
InUnd  in  the  latter  end  of  the  lust  century.  Com- 
mnnications  may  (if  more  suitable)  be  addressed 
lo  myself.  Kuwakd  Kisq, 

105,  High  Street,  Lymingloa. 
Allan  CcBNiSGaAM,  the  BiooRApnEE.— Has 
li  ever  been  eiplained  how  this  writer  came  to 
puhiish  so  extravagiint  an  invention  as  his  account 
"^  the  courtship  of  Sir  Henry  Raeburn  and  Miss 
^ne  Edgar?  I  nsk  the  question  because,  in 
Uch  subsequent  Scottish  biographies  as  I  have 
*®«i,  the  story  is  repeated  on  Cunningham's 
■thoritj, 

-4.nne  Edgar  was  Mrs.  James  Leslie  when  her 
^'Xxait  by  liaeburn  was  first  taken.  Leslie  suh- 
"^Uently  died  in  Ueanhaugh  House,  and  the  artist 
'o«-tly  afterwards  married  his  widow.  These  are 
"^ts  that  can  be  substajitjated  by  a  reference  to 
'^  public  records ;  as,  for  eiample.  Reg.  of  Deeds, 
•^-j  V.  2-2R,  f.  184,  Reg.  House,  lyinburgh. 
.^eslie  was  a  man  of  excellent  family,  a  cadet 
'  -Balquhain ;  and  his  daughter,  Jacobina,  became 
P»  lirst  wife  of  Daniel  Vere  of  Stonebyres.  Still 
■"tHer  to  expose  the  absurdity  of  the  story  in 
^wsetion,  it  may  be  mentioned  that  Lady  Uaebum  [ 
E**  sevetal  vears  "older  than  her  husband  Sir  I 
Heoiy.         ■  S. 

l^IE,  Dice. — What  is  tbe  history  of  the  form 
***'  Is  it  a  plural  formed  from  die  f  or  la  die  a 
y^nlat  formal  from  dicef  or  is  dice  a  singular  ' 
™nEoglJshed  from  the  Low  Latin  dec.iut  t  I  offer 
i   ■•ftiUowiiiB  notes  towards  an  answer.    The  dic- 


"  And  danyal  the  dytpltj-ere." 

PitnPhwmm.'ei.li. 
"  Sent  him  a  pairs  tktt  of  f^ld  in  sconi." 

Chaacsr,  Pardotite;  Tidt,  158. 
"  He  neither  pleiech  at  the  dea  at  daiuuetb." 

Cbaucer,  Shipmait't  Tale  (U91). 
Six-text  print  here  showa  dea,  deti,  dy»,   dti, 
dyei.  ^ 

These  forms  seem  to  me  to  come  from  the- 
French  plural  formj  then  the  -<x  is  a  corruption 
of  -ei,  or  -»,  as  in  mice,  pence,  one*,  henc^  Bee., 
for  mys,  pens,  ones,  heiuiee,  &c  The  form  di/M 
perhaps  points  to  a  smgular  dye,  which  I  bare 
not  found,  and  Strattmonn  quotes  no  instance. 
Lastly,  "Z)ytyii',orpley  wyibe  dya/g"  (^Prompto- 
rium  Parv.)  implies  a  singular  dyce  (as  from  d»- 
cius  f)  Will  some  one  clear  up  the  history  of  the 
word?  How  early  can  a  singular  die  be  found P 
and  how  early  can  the  Low  Latin  decitu  be  found  f 
0.  W.  T. 

Horace  AHD  HIS  Editors. — I  am  anxious  to 
trace  out  and  examine  the  earliest  printed  copies 
of  Horace  in  existence.  Can  any  of  your  numetoua 
readers  inform  me  when  the  works  of  Horace  were 
first  printed,  and  where  ?  Also,  what  are  die 
earliest  manuscripts,  and  where  they  can  be  seeuF 
I  am  aware  of  the  list  given  by  Bentiey  in  hie 
edition  (4to,  1711,  Cambridge),  but  I  think  th» 
list  does  not  contiun  the  earUeet  printed  edttims, 
only  those  that  are  most  known.  W. 

"  Jttbt  like  Love." — Who  was  Davy,  the  re- 

tnted  composer  of  this  melody,  or  the  writer  of 
ath  words  and  musia?  It  is  sometimes  called 
"  Davy's  Song,"  and  was  arranged  as  a  trio  by 
Vincent  Novello.  W.  D. 

(The  favoarite  rondean,  "Just  lilie  Love,"  is  a  trans- 
lation from  the  Poemi  of  Canioens  by  Lord  Vigconnt 
Strangford  (edit.  1809,  p.  37) :  — 


Yet  tear^  its  dewy  leaves  disclose, 
And  in  tbe  midat  of  briars  it  blows. 

Just  like  Love. 
"  Cull'd  to  bloom  apon  the  breast. 
Since  roii^ih  thorns  Ihe  stem  inveet, 
Tbey  must  be  gather'd  with  the  real. 
And  with  il  to  tbe  heart  be  preat. 

Just  like  Love. 
"  And  when  rude  hands  the  twin.buds  aever, 
Tbey  die — and  tbey  ihall  bloaaoni  never,— 
Yet  tbe  tborns  be  sharp  as  ever, 

Jnst  like  Love." 
It  wag  iani;  by  Mr,  Braham  at  Covent  Garden,  and  by 
Mr.  Uountuiti  at  Dniry  Lane.  The  music  waa  compoMd 
bv  John  Davy,  of  whom  aome  acconnt  will  be  foncd  in 
'■'N.  ft  Q."  S'^S.  iv.89e;  CoKJcnos'i  JUd^diiu for  Uareh, 
1824,  p.  2E0;  the  Somtriet  Smut  Gaztlte,  i.  S60;  and 
tbe  Biographical  DictioTimy  of  Muticiatit.'\ 

J.  KiFime.—Where  waa  J.  Kipling's  fooodn, 


___-- ■      T"  A  Kod  Cross  I 


li-S-lX-AW^lJ^ 


wactice  of  tbe  v.  • 

r^.^'?*blaTk  go^ns  daong  Adxc" 
^,jieefotbl»cKS  ...,v,„.  of  J^^'w^^o.  » Jut  « 


■    tbe  author  of  a  V.-!!**  ?f  SS  CO- 
^'^°  '•^  (  tveu  0-Connelly? 
Devil  aud  Owen  t^,  1k»-  *« 

"*^"''*^„  ^  l^"^  cbutcbyatairhere 
« It  was  in  f"^^  .   _,  to  tik»  •  1W»"*"^ 


"•^  ^Vho'^otetbewywjl.    *  justL^tbtneUc  ^«^^^^  O^^rfl. 

!.»-«.«.  and  -wise  men                                    .„            in  compound  a«w'  SHOTn'»«*-"r\«i# 

^^e  couplet—  .w.r»  eive  in,         \  lu  »-      r ^^^^  ^^^^  ^HB  »»";»»  of  tfco  «*^ 


jL;:.r  ^rSnVv^-  r;lted  .m    tbe^ 
*  « Milk  and  Honey,     J^^ted  m  Fl^^^ 

jjUeratiireM     Is  tbis  tbe  ongmai  <i         ^,.  p. 
1824,  Ul.  363.  ^    „  q4  ittead-s-Fo"^ 

,.     unf  Proverbs,  V;^^'^ 

Jad  bouses,  and  ^  i"  rserie^l8"l' 

QcoTATIOl«-|^VA•«.  .I^JJ^J'tbat  no  , 
«,irab\e  eseays,  ^^^    ^^n  «"*•  ;"^ord  to  play 
p.  73,  ob8en-«8,    »      .f  te  cannot^"' ,^,i„g  y    i 

quoted  «.  by  Jean     ^^^„,. 


J.  W. 


d  as  by  Jean  raui  _ 

iL  man  s  own  i" 

1  ^  revolving  »«* 
-  count  tbat  day  lost  ^bo*  s  o^^  ^^^, ..  ^^  ^ 

Sees    .    •    •    ■ 


,     «,nTeTba8''tbe.^„__ 
•*  rt nt  -well  define*  » P»°y  t .  Q-  C-   I     « To  inrt«»- 


thote  any  i"""*— 

the  leathern  breecb^^^^ 

'"S'K^t  is  the Ufc  of  n^^'V^-?  to  »w^«»5/S2I  S 
u  \\  hat  isj^n«  to  Borrow  r  w    ^^^vi^fti^  •■-^ 

side?  fro^lfd  u^^iton  «f**' 
iheit  otigip  Wtt"  ^  uxi 


4»S.  IX.  AruiL20,'72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


321 


who,  haviog  done  part  of  an  undertaking,  showed 
a  disposition  to  give  up  the  remainder;  and  the 
other  day  a  per:>on,  describing  an  exploit  of  some 
boys  more  than  thirty  years  ago,  sjiid :  **  When 
they  got  some  distance  on  the  road,  one  of  them 
began  to  tinker"  What  may  have  given  rise  to 
the  phrase  ?  J.  Be  ale. 

Tassie's  Seals. — The  address  requested  of  any 
artist  in  Loudon  who  copies  seals  and  gems,  re- 

{ producing  them  in  glass,  in  the  same  way  that  the 
ate  Mr.  Tassie  of  Leicester  Square  used  to  do 
them.  IL  T.  E. 

Rev.  W.  Wickenden,  known  as  the  Forest 
Bard,  and  author  of  numerous  miscellaneous  pro- 
ductions, died,  I  think,  about  ten  years  ago.  Can 
Tou  give  me  the  date  of  his  death  ?  He  seems  to 
have  been  alive  about  1808.  K.  Inglis. 

WiNDiBANK. — Does  any  pedigree  exist  in  print 
or  manuscript  of  the  family  of  Windibauk,  of 
which  Charles  I.'s  secretary  of  state  was  a  mem- 
ber ?  Edwakd  1*eacoce. 


ntpXiti. 


WHO  WAS  MAYOR  OF  LONDON  IX  1035? 

(2**  S.  i.  353,  passim ;  iL  39,  passim.) 

As  the  above  question  never  seems  to  have  been 
definitely  settled,  I  send  the  following  extract 
from  A  Chronicle  of  London  from  108i>  to  148^3, 
written  in  the  Fifteenth  Century^  which  will  pretty 
well  prove  that  Reginald  at  the  Conduit  was  the 
man,  and  not  Nicholas  Wotton :  — 

"  R«x  Edwardut  Teriius. 

"Revnald  at  the  Conduyt,  m*.  John  Kvngcston; 
Walt'  f  urk.    A»  ix"  [would  equal  1334]. 

This  same  yere  was  a  pret  moreyn  of  ^1)eeAtes  and  of 
men  also,  and  li^ret  habundance  of  reyne,  where  thorugh 
ther  was  so  gmt  derthe  of  come  that  a  quarter  of  whete 
waa  worth  xU. 

Id'm  maior.  Walt'  Moordon;  Ric'  Upton.  Anno 
x««  [  =  1335]. 

In  this  yere  the  Scottes  offcndeden  ayeyne ;  and  the 
kinge  wente  ovpr  the  Scottyssh  see  and  werred  upon  the 
Scottes,  and  overcame  them  myghtyly,  at  whiche  tyme 
the  erle  of  Morre  was  taken.** 

There  is  no  mention  of  the  mayor  having  died, 
or  his  office  being  held  by  Nicholas  Wotton,  as 
suggested  by  W.  (Bombay),  2-*  S.  ii.  438,  and  1 
think  there  "would  have  been  if  such  had  occurred, 
for  in  other  years  of  the  same  reign  is  as  follows: 

••  Adam  of  Berv,  maior,  skvnnere.  Simon  Mordon ; 
John  Medford.    A«  xxxix  [=  1364.] 

This  same  3rere  of  cure  lord  a  m*  ccc"»«  Ixiiij  was  the 
batell  of  Orrez  in  Britayne,  where  S'  Charles  de  Bloys 
«ha1anged  to  be  duke  of  Bretayne,  was  sclayn,  and  S' 
Bcftram  Clavkyn  was  take  with  manye  otherelordesand 
kayghtes.  Also  this  same  yere  at  Saveye  besyde  Westm', 
^^yde  John  kyng  of  Fraance.  And  also  hi  the  same  yere 
was  a  itrong  cold  frost,  whiche  endured  fro  seynt  An- 
drawei  dinr  unto  the  Kal'  of  AprOL"  [A  good  kmg 
imi froB  aowember 90  te  April;  ibnr  moothBof  it]   • 


Id'm  maior  nsq'  xxviiij  'diem  Januar,  quo  die  p' 
p*ceptu'  re^'  illo  amoto,  Joh'cs  Lovekyn  el'tus  fuit  in 
maiorem  p'  residno  a'.  John  Brikelesworth ;  John  Irland* 
Annoxl'"«[  =  13»)5]. 

This  same  yere,  the  vij  Kal'  of  Feverer,  Edward  the 
first  sone  of  pry  nee  Edward  was  born ;  whiche  in  the 
age  o^vij  yere  endyd  hys  lyf.     Also  in  this  3'ere  was 

Srete  and  stronge  batailes  of  sparwes  in  Engelond  in 
ivcrses  place:*,  wherof  the  bodyes  were  foanden  in  the 
fcldes  dede  withoughte  nonmbre.  And  in  this  yere 
manye  men  and  be«tes  were  enfect  with  pokkes  where 
thoruf;h  they  deyden.  And  in  this  yere,  on  seynt  Bar^ 
naby  day,  was  Comwayle  hanged.*' 

Mr.  E.  S.  Taylor  ("N.  &  Q.'*  2«*  S.  ii.  213) 
appeal's  to  me  to  have  got  wrong  altogether  in 
his  calculation  of  the  anno  Domini  and  the  anno 
regniy  for  the  latter  commenced  on  Feb.  1, 1326, 
when,  according  to  the  Chronicle  1  quote  from — 

**  Uic'us  Betayn,  maior,  goldsmvth.  Ric'  Rotyng ; 
Rofc*  Chauntecler.    A'  p'mo.    [  =  13*2G.'l 

llamo  ChikcwelU  m\  Henry  Darcy ;  John  Uawteyn. 
AosVdo.  [  =  1327.] 

John  Grantham,  m\  Simon  Fraunccys;  Herry  Combe* 
martyn.    A*  iij*».    L  =  1328.] 

Simon  Swavnlond,  m*.  Kob't  of  Ely ;  Th*  Harewold. 
Annoiiijto     f  =  i329.] 

John  Fountenev,  m'.    Rob*t  of  Ely ;  Tho's  Ilarewold. 

A»v«o.  r=i-Ji*o.*] 

Id'm  maior.  John  Mokkvng ;  Andr'  Aabrey.  Anno 
vj»«.    [  =  1831.] 

John  Preston,  m*.  Nicholl  Fyk;  John  Honsbonde. 
Anno  vij"-.    [  =  1332.] 

John  Fountenov,  m*.  John  Hamond ;  Will'  Hansard. 
Aoviijto.'*    [  =  12133.] 

Anno  ix**  is  Reynald  at  the  Conduyt,  aa  I  hsTe 
shown  abov^.  The  name  of  Wotton  does  not 
occur  as  mayor  or  sherilf  during  the  whole  of  the 
reign.  [The  brackets  are  my  own  addition  of 
course,  and  so  are  the  anni  Domini.]        D.  C.  £• 

Soath  Bersted,  Bognor. 


GOURMAND:  GOURMET. 

(4"»  S.  ix.  8Q,  162,  242.) 

It  is  exceedingly  disagreeable  to  me  to  enter 
into  controversy  about  the  useless  points  of ''  you 
said  "  and  '^  I  said  '*;  but  a  multitude  of  the  cor- 
respondents of  ^*  N.  &  Q."  seem  to  think  that  the 
slightest  modification  of  what  they  have  written 
partakes  of  the  nature  of  rudeness.  I  understand 
quite  well  what  Mr.  Picton  intended.  The 
parallel  he  found  was  curious  and  interesting^  and 
the  diverse  origin  of  the  words  curious  also.  I  am 
not  convinced  that  gowmU  comes  from  groom^ 
but  I  do  not  see  that  I  called  it  in  question.  I 
may  say,  if  it  be  worth  saying,  that  Mb.  Pictov 
misunderstands  my  note:  the  purport  of  which 
was  to  point  out  that  Frenchmen  use  the  word 
ffoumiei  for  a  man  of  keen  nalate;  and  this  Mx. 
PiCTOir  impugned,  for  he  said :  — 

**  Gimrwut  has  nothing  to  do  with  eating  at  alU  Wa^%» 
according  to  Tarvet,  *  %  V'^'d^^  t»N&5JaM9u  ^  -^tt^^'*^ 

He  -waft  \wa3  'inJik  iCSk^  ^«Mi%6M^'^^«f>^ 


322 


KOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


L'i'i-S.IX.  AriuL80,7t. 


•aid  OQ  tbe  lattpr  point  i^  what  I  cfilled  "confu' 
aion" — word  of  ill  onito  and  aiuch  ollunce ! 

Again,  Mr.  Pictom  is  not  clear  ivhether  1 
derive  r/ouniiand  and  gounnet  from  one  and  thi 
same  root.  IIq  did  not  care  wLether  lie  whs 
clear  or  not  upon  that  point.  If  he  bad  cared,  he 
would  have  seen  that  I  dealt  ontf  with  gourmand 
etymological  ly. 

AgfuD,  Mr.  PicToir  baa  only  referred  to  Wedf;- 
wtxMl  to  do  me  damage  about  Koncht,  and  show 
that  I  am  not  eznct  in  quoting— and  that  in  a 
noter  and  querist  is  a  very  grnve  crime ;  hut  ns 
Hr.  Pictoh  only  went  to  gather  this  pebble  that 
lie  might  unamiably  aling  it  at  me,  I  shall  not 
justify  myself  b;  turning  to  Wedgwood  to  see 
wbetbei  1  am  wrong  oi  not 

All  that  Mb.  Picton  says  about  gourmet  and 
goarmer,  well  supported  as  it  is  out  of  Mi1nu:e, 
Bucange,  &c.,  is  far  from  rendering  it  improbaSle 
that  the  verb  gourmer,  to  stuiti  gormnndise,  may 
be  an  even  older  word  than  that  originated  as 
Manage  would  have  it.  I  have  no  leisure  to 
punueit;  but  have  a  strong  belief  that,  if  I  did 
seek  it,  I  should  ba  able  to  produce  examples; 
but  lejcu  ne  vaat  pa*  la  chandtile. 

Again,  Ms.Picxon  thinhs  my  illustrations  "not 
a  little  bizarre."  and  quotes  once  more  "  Cucumber 
and  Jeiemiah  King."  I  Hhould  say  that  that  jerkiu 
was  by  this  time  worn  threadbare,  and  that  Jere- 
miah might  be  King  and  yet  no  profit.  That 
ugly  law  called  Grimm's  law  we  all  bave  heard 
of,  "the  essentials  are  O — r — m"i  and  if  Grimm 
were  Gorm,  we  should  expect  him  to  chaw  all 
other  laws  up — and  so  with  Grimm  and  Bupp 
Mb,  Pioton  goes  to  Pott.  Mb.  Pictoit  asks,  most 
justly,  why  need  he  go  further?  I  say,  playing 
echo,  "Why,  indeed  P"  U.  A.  W. 

Uaytur. 


OLIPIIANT  BABONT. 

(S-*  S.  ii.  65.) 
Some   time  back   (see   reference  above  given) 

JDu  had  an  interesting  note  on  this  subject  from 
.  M.,  and  I  gather  from  the  concluding  sentence 
that  the  writer  regards  it  as  possible  that  heirs  to 
the  barony  of  Oliphaot  ot  Olyphant  may  slill  be 
found.  J.  M.  may  be  right,  but  Oliver  and  Boyd's 
Almanack  gives  the  peerage  as  dormant  since  the 
death  of  WiUiam,  eleventli  lord,  in  ITOl.  This 
William  was  the  ma  of  Charles  Olinhant  of 
Luigton,  one  of  the  Clerks  of  Session,  who  seems 
to  have  assumed  tbe  title  on  the  death  of  his 
kinsman,  Francis,  tenth  lord,  on  April  10,  1748, 
Francis  havinr  succeeded  his  brother  William, 
the  dragoon  of  the  ballad  to  which  J.  M.  refers. 
It  appears  from  the  ScoUiiA  Nation,  vol.  iii.  p.  264, 
that  William,  the  eleventh  lord,  died  June  S, 
1861,  baving  voted  the  previous  year  at  an  elec~ 
tion  of  Scota  f~       -nd  '     ""  '""  ^"^  baron  of 


the  title  who  so  voted.    It  is  not  likely,  as  J.  IL 

suggests,  that  there  was  issue  of  tha  maniiga 
between  "  Tbe  Dragon  and  PegKy,"  aa  tbe  biot^ 
succeeded ;  -  but  from  certain  family  dociunmtt 
in  my  posaession  I  am  led  to  think  it  donbtfill 
whether  the  peerage  should  be  recorded  u  dat- 
mant  since  1761. 

I  have  now  before  me  several  letten  ad- 
dressed to  my  grandfather,  signed  "Olyphast,' 
and  docketed  in  my  giandiiather'a  kondimtiiig  ■■ 
"  from  Lord  Olyphant"  These  run  over  mioh 
fifteen  years  previous  to  Lord  Olyphant'a  death, 
which  took  place  in  London  OctoDer  27,  1771^ 
fls  announced  in  a  letter  to  my  grandfather  tarn 
Mr.  Kenneth  3Iackenzie,  of  Wigmore  niiwt. 
Cavendish  Square.    This  letter  commence* — 

"  I  Hm  extremely  eony  to  acquaint  joa  of  tha  loM  it 
a  valuable  and  worthy  friend,  jtanf  0J>>*<«(,  wbodyid 
llii«  mornint;  sboDt  10  o'clock,  after  a  dedjna  of  Unn 

Then  I  find  a  lett«r,  written  upwards  of  tan 
years  subsequently  by  his  son  and  succeaaor,  ta  Mf 
grandfather,  in  the  following  curioua  terma:— 
"  Pitbeirlei,  3"  Jw,  17IL 
"  D'  Sir, 

"  I  now  acqaainC  that  I  vu  this  Kight  mariial  It 
mv  honae  keeper  Jsennct  MorEon  And  In  all  sppMiaaM 
a>  1  am  not  long  rue  this  World,  give  me  lea**  M  n- 
rommend  faer  and  my  loa  John  Olyphant  by  her,  ertB 
other  abe  may  have  by  mr,  to  your  Protaetion,  aad  I 
wilt  be  greatly  serviDg  an  old  acqualntaDBe,  vhoabMBn^ 
wishes  you  and  yours  well,  and  1  am  with  great  tMid, 
"  D'  Sir, 
"  Your  most  obedient  bbla  SM*, 

(■')        "OtiYrHUT. 

"P.S.  Thomas  Stewart  and  Patrick  StawaiL  Ur 
Brother,  both  of  Porlb,  were  Witnanai  to  tha  Ham^* 

This  letter  has  no  post-mark,  but  wm  pnMilf 
sent  by  bund,  or  even  personally  delivend;  V 
within  it  is  enclosed  a  memorandum  in  mygnnl* 
father's  writing,  and  signed  by  him,  as  foUow•^-' 

" Pottcrhill,  8'  (?)  January,  1781.— TUi  day  Lm< 
Olvphsnt  aent  a  pressing  Invitation  to  me  to  een*  t^ 
I'iihearles.  1  went  there  in  tha  anernoon,  when  I  llt—^^ 
him  in  declining  state,  but  Bound  in  hi*  jod) 
Rft«r  po.iie  conierSBlIon  he  told  me  That  foraci 
pa.st  he  had  Lived  with  Janet  Uoiton,  his  b 
in  habits  of  familiaritv,  k  that  she  had  Bon  a  oaa  i^^ 
himit  was  now  pref^ant  with  anotlMTCliIld.  4  t^tl^ 
was  his  full  Intention  A  Eamcit  deatra  l«  Ij^fitOmH^ 
tl>eM  Children  by  declaring  it  aeknowle^gtogallaiU^ig 
wllh  thrir  Mother,  &  that  far  hia  own  peae*  of  bM  fe' 
sstisfaetioQ  he  bad  sent  for  me  as  a  Uagiitrat*  to  ■«■■£ 
such  declaration  k  acknowledgenmt,  ft  I  tliaii  jm^Mt0B^ 
keep  a  Minuto  of  tha  tmu 


dcclan 


That  he  made  a: 


Repoutoty. 

From  the  aboTa  it  will  be  •  en  that  up  to 
a  Lord  Olyphant  existed,  and  was  recognised 
such,  and  further,  that  he  I      n  eon  bubiad''" 
The  Lord  Ulyphaat  I  hkre  nt  en  referring  to 
of  cou      the  one       ntioued  \a  The  SeMiik 


I 


4«»  S.  IX.  ApiiiL  20,  72.] 


KOTES  AND.  QUERIES. 


323 


Hon  as  John  of  Bachilton,  who  died  in  March 
1781.  The  papers  before  me  do  not  give  the  date 
of  his  death,  but  it  is  evident  that,  as  he  states 
himsdf  in  January  to  be  **  not  long  for  this 
world/'  he  was  the  Lord  Olyphant  who  died  in 
the  following  March.  The  child  referred  to  in 
Lord  Olyphanfs  letter  as  a  contingency,  and  of 
whieh  the  memorandum  states  Lady  Olyphant  to 
be  then  pregnant,  was  the  posthumous  aaughter 
Janet,  mentioned  in  The  Scottish  Nation  as  the 
wife  of  Uie  eighth  Lord  Elibank.  But  how  about 
the  son  John,  distinctly  acknowledged  by  the 
father?  It  seems  to  me,  not  being  much  of  a 
genealogist,  that  he  must  have  left  issue,  other- 
wise his  sister  Janet,  or  her  issue,  would  have 
claimed  the  barony,  which  was  nearly  two  cen- 
turies older  than  the  one  into  which  she  married. 
Where  then  are  John^s  issue  ? 

I  am  aware  that  the  last  Lord  Oliphant,  who 
18  said  to  have  voted  at  a  peer's  election — ^by  the 
waj,  is  this  necessary  to  a  Scotch  peer^s  recogni- 
tion P — t.  e.  the  eleventh  lord,  acknowledged  Oli- 
phant of  Gask  as  his  heir,  who,  being  attainted, 
was  not  heard  of  in  this  connection,  so  far  as  I 
know ;  but  rightly  or  wrongly,  the  title  was  used 
and  acknowledged,  as  I  have  shown,  by  more  than 
one  Lord  Olyphant  after  the  said  eleventh  lord's 
death;  and  as  I  suppose  the  issue  of  the  bold 
dragoon  and  Peggy,  sujigested  by  your  contributor 
J.  M.,  did  not  exist,  it  may  be  interesting  to  know 
what  became  of  '*my  son,  John  Olypnant,''  so 
designated  by  the  Lord  Olyphant  who  married 
Janet  Morton  at  Pithearles  in  January,  and  died 
io  March,  1781.  W.  T.  M. 

Shinfleld  Grove. 


AMERICAN  CENTENARIANS. 
(4»'»  S.  ix.  40.) 

DR.  EZRA   GREEN. 

Having,  as  I  trust,  proved  the  claims  of  Ilolyoke, 
Farrar,  and  Blowers,  I  proceed  to  the  fourth 
centenarian  among  the  graduates  of  Ilarvard,  viz. 
Dr.  Ezra  Green. 

He  was  bom  at  Maiden,  Mass.,  and  was  in  the 
fourth  generation  from  Thomas  Qreen,  one  of  the 
early  settlers  of  that  town.  (See  A  Genealogical 
Sketch  of  the  Descendants  of  Thomas  Greene  of 
Maiden,  Mass.,  hy  Samuel  S.  Greene,  Boston^ 
1858.)  His  father,  Ezra  Green,  was  thrice  mar- 
ried. His  second  wife  was  Eunice,  daughter  of 
Hon.  Eben.  Burrill  of  Lynn,  by  whom  he  had 
three  children.  These  are  recorded  on  the  Maiden 
records,  as  given  in  a  certified  copy  now  before 
me,  and  made  by  the  present  town  clerk,  A.  F. 
Saiqgent,  Esq.,  as  follows : — 

"Exn  Green,  son  of  Ezra  and  Eunice  Green,  bom  the 
S8id  of  Jane^  1746. 

Sarah  Greeo,  daughter  of  Ezra  and  Ennice  Green, 
bom  tiie  11th  of  Jnif,  2749. 


Bernard,  son  of  Ezra  and  Eunice  Green,  bom  the  15th 
Jan.  1762." 

The  mother  died  October  2, 1760. 

Dr.  Ezra  Green  died  at  Dover,  N.  H.,  July  25, 
1847,  aged  101  years,  1  mo.  8  days,  current  reckon- 
ing. In  this  case  also  ^e  have  the  record  of  a 
man  of  some  local  position,  a  physician  in  good 
standing,  a  church-member,  and  a  graduate  of 
Harvard,  whose  age  and  chronological'  rank  in 
the  College  lists  was  a  matter  of  common  know- 
ledge and  interesting  discussion  for  years  before 
his  decease.  From  the  Bi- Centennial  Book  of 
Midden  (Boston,  1850),  a  town  history,  I  take  the 
following  items  concerning  Dr.  Green's  life.  He 
commenced  practice  at  Dover  about  1769,  served 
as  a  surgeon  in  the  War  of  the  Revolution,  re- 
signed in  1781,  and  returned  to  Dover.  He  was 
during  part  of  the  time  on  board  Paul  Jones's 
vessel  the  *'  Ranger."  For  many  years  he  was 
deacon  of  the  Congregational  church  at  Dover. 
He  was  a  member  of  the  N.  H.  State  Convention, 
which  adopted  the  Constitution  of  the  United 
States.  He  married  Susanna  Hays,  and  had  four 
sons  and  three  daughters. 

His  brother  Bernard  died  July  15, 1834,  aged 
82  years;  and  their  half-brother,  Rev.  Aaron 
Green,  bom  January  4, 1765,  died  December  23, 
1853,  aged  89  years,  lacking  a  few  days. 

REV.  DANIEL  WALDO. 

Another  well-authenticated  case  is  that  of  Rev. 
Daniel  Waldo,  bom  at  Windham,  Conn.,  Sep- 
tember 10,  1762,  who  died  at  Syracuse,  N.Y., 
July  30, 1864,  a^d  101  years,  10  months,  20  days. 
The  Waldo  family  has  always  held  a  good  posi- 
tion here,  one  of  them.  Gen.  Samuel  Waldo,  being 
a  great  owner  of  lands  in  Maine.  The  first  settler 
was  Cornelius,  whose  son  John  had  a  son  Edward, 
who  removed  to  Windham,  Conn.  Edward  was 
father  of  Zaccheus,  whose  family  record  stands  as 
follows  on  the  town  record,  as  copied  for  me  by 
Allen  Lincoln,  Esq.,  town  clerk  :-^ 

•«  The  marriage  of  Zaochens  Waldo  with  Tabitha  Kings- 
buiy,  his  wife,  wa^  February  8, 1746-7. 

Ziporan,  son  to  Zaccheos  Waldo,  by  Tabitha  his  wife, 
waa  born  Nov.  13,  1747. 

Ruth,  daughter,  bom  November  28,  1748. 

John,  son,  bom  April  22, 17d0. 

Eunice,  daughter,  born  February  12, 1753. 

Elizabeth,  (laughter,  bora  October  11,  1754. 

Zaccheus,  son,  born  November  20*  1756. 

Joseph,  son,  born  October  5,  1758. 

Tabitha,  daughter,  born  August  5, 1760. 

Daniel,  son,  U>m  September  10, 1762. 

A  daughter,  born  December,  1765,  and  died  soon. 

Ebenezer,  son,  bom  August  15, 1766. 

Ozias,  son,  born  April  21, 1768. 

Tabitha,  wife  of  Zaccheus  Waldo,  died  January  18, 
1789." 

I  have  been  particular  to  give  tbese  full  lists  of 
families  to  prevent  the  so^g^ti^cn^^ScAX^^^'Qa&si^ 
cJ^ild  in  anj  cBJMli«A'W(iiTBQiX»kftTi  Vst  ^^.^^^ 
one  o!  i^  mbiq  nti&A  '^"^o  "^mm^.  ^^A-    xissift.  ^ 


324 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4AS.1X.  APBrLM^*;!. 


notice  of  the  Rrtv.  Daniel  Wfildo  in  the  A'.  F.. 
Historical  and  Ocnenlofficnl  Sei/ider  for  ISUj 
(vol.  six.  p.  84),  I  ttke  the  following  items :  — 

Daniel  Waldo,  at  the  age  of  sixtfien,  in  177S 
eerred  in  the  Rnvolutiooary  nrmy.  I!o  returned 
home  and  studied  for  college,  entered  Yale  Col- 
le;fe  in  1784,  and  was  praduated  in  17tW.  Studied 
theology,  and  was  licensed  to  preach  by  t)ie  As- 
Mcintion  of  Windham  County.  He  wns  ordained 
May  24,  179-3,  nt  West  Suffield,  Conn.,  whore  he 
remained  eighteen  years.   Preached  ntCambridge- 

grt,  Maca,,  ISIO-U,  then  was  eiuployed  by  the 
'angelical  Missionary  Society  in  Khodc  Island 
tor  nine  years  until  1820.  He  afterwards  preacliod 
twelve  years  at  Eietor,  Conn.,  and  in  l&io  he 
removed  with  his  son  to  the  stata  of  New  York, 
where  he  chiefly  lived  till  his  death,  preaching, 
however,  at  dilfetent  places  from  time  to  tim». 
In  December  1850  he  was  chosen  chaplain  of  the 
U.  S.  House  of  Representatires,  and  re-elected 
the  neit  year,  being  !)4  years  old.  His  liut  ser- 
mon was  preached  after  he  entered  hii  lO^nd 
year.  "  He  enjoyed  comfortable  health,  till,  about 
the  beginning  of  July,  he  fell  down  stairs,  and 
thereby  received  a  sliock  from  which  he  never 
recovered." 

As  will  ht>  imagined,  bis  election  as  Chaplun 
to  Congress  brought  his  name  and  gn^at  ajre  be- 
fore the  public.  For  the  remainder  uf  his  life  he 
was  well  known,  and  the  possibility  of  any  fraud 
or  mifltake  seema  entirely  too  remote  for  con- 
sideration. I  prosiime  even  the  moat  obdurate 
dbbeliever  in  centenarians  will  not  deny  tliat  men 
h«ve  lived  to  be  04  years  old.  In  Mr.  Waldo's 
case,  when  he  waa  04  years  of  age,  he  was  elected 
to  a  prominent  oiBco,  and  he  certainly  lived  seten 
yean  after  that  time.  I  can  well  remember  the 
interest  taken  in  hia  flection,  and  the  fact  that  in 
almost  every  succeeding  year  "  rather  Waldo  " 
attended  at  some  meeting  of  clergymen  or  of  cul~ 
lege  graduates,  or  at  some  political  gathering, 
and  that  the  community  watclied  wiik  increasing 
interest  Iiis  p^)gres8  towards  his  one  hundredth 
birthday  and  his  passage  beyond  that  poinL 

In  my  nost  I  propo.'e  to  give  the  facts  relative 
to  a  Boston  clergvman  who  will  attain  tlie  age  of 
100  years  if  he  live  mitil  June  31  next.  1  shall 
be  much  obliged  if  Mr.  Tikius,  or  any  other 
^ntleman  interested  in  this  subject,  will  suggest 
any  investigations  proper  to  be  made  in  such  a  case. 
1  also  hope  that  this  aeries  of  articles  may  call 
forth  Rome  expre^on  of  opinion  whether  or  not 
I  have  satisfactorily  proved  the  existence  of  five 
undoubted  cases  of  centenarianism. 


SIR  BUVLE  KOCHE. 
{•f^  S.  ii.  262.) 
Sir  Boyle  Roche  was  created  a  Iwraiiet 

30,  1782.  He  was  of  respectabli 
tering  early  into  the  military  serv 
himself  greatly  in  America,  particulailj'Bt  Al 
taking  of  the  Moro  Fort  in  the  Uavuut.  On  qdl- 
ting  the  army  he  obtained  a  seat  in  Fatliftmaat^  ol 
sucli  wns  the  humour  and  drollery  at  hia  coQunod 
that  he  could,  it  is  stated,  at  any  time  entii^ 
change  the  temper  of  the  House,  and  ooHnrt 
angry  discussion  and  debate  into  pleasant  diMnm 
and  irrepressible  laughter.  He  was  siilweqiiwillj 
Master  of  the  Ceremonies  at  Dublin  Caatlc^whtn 
he  was  much  esteemed  for  bis  politeness  aiidail»> 
nity.  lie  married  the  eldest  daught«r  of  in  IbA 
baronet,  and  died  (without  issue)  at  his  hoMiS 
Eccles  Street,  Dublin,  on  June  5,  1607. 

Sir  Jonah  Barrington,  in  Pernmal  SktUim  if 
his  own  Timu  published  in  1827,  says: — 

"  Sir  Bojle  Roche  wu  without  exception  tb«  DtMtMl^ 
braled  and  enlertnining  anti-grammaiiaa  la  lb>  Id* 
Parliament.  I  tnev  him  intimatd;.  He  wa*  of  a  Mif 
r«3pcc(ahle  Irish  fumit;-,  and  in  point  of  appearaaeisM 

hlufr,  wilJIer-likc  trenlleniBn He  had  a  ^tm  H 

tlie  title  of  Fennov,  which,  however,  b*  ncverpBarit 
ruid  was  brother  to'ths  liauyua  Tiger  Bocba,  who  lu^ 
mme  dcspi^rate  dud  abroad,  and  wu  near  tMiBc  bM^ 
lor  it.  Sir  Itoyk  was  pedwtly  vvU  bred  In  sOM 
liiiliita;  had  been  appointed  (jcottemin  IJtbm  it  di 
Irii^h  mnn,  and  execatcd  Ihit  ofHce  to  the  day  of  kb 
death  with  the  utmost  lutisftctioD  to  bimseiraiMl  taMJV 
one  in  ronneetion  with  liirn.  He  mariiad  tha  dW 
ilaughUr  of  John  Civc,  Bart. ;  and  hie  ladr,  wh>  ■*  S 
bat  bin,  pmnaturely  injured  air  Boyle's  eapad^,  it  Ml 
i^niil.  by  furcin^c  faim  to  read  Gibhoa's  Aim  atJUdj 
the  Komiiit  Empirt,  vrberett  he  iria  cmelly  pniiMvv' 
out  beiiii;  in  the  least  dogrce  amawd." 

Among  his  roost  interesting  blnndsn  m  tb 
following.  In  speaking  on  some  finanidal  qturfiB 
of  the  day,  he  is  reported  to  have  said : — "  Vfy 
Mr.  Spealicr,  should  we  put  outaelves  oat  of  W 
wav  to  do  8     ■" 


Boston,  n.S.A. 


W.  H.  WniTMOEB. 


posterity  done  f__   _,       ^ , 

explained  by  assuring  the  noose  "that  fajaidntr 
he  did  not  mean  our  anceslort,  but  those  wM  VM 
to  come  immttUatxhf  after  Mem." 

On  another  occasion,  in  snpportinfr  tba  Brit* 
Corpus  Suspension  Bill  in  Ireland,  be  KgM^ 
"  It  would  surely  be  better,  Hr.  Speaker,  ts  gin 
up  not  only  a  port,  bat,  if  neeeaaaiy,  enK  A 
\phoU  of  our  constitution  to  preaerre  tt>  rmmmiK- 
I'erhape,  however,  the  moataeiiaiblaaf  kiakbat* 
(and  Sir  Jonah  especially  reoonimaBtla  it  to  ^ji^ 
men  in  the  army)  was  this :  "  The  bMt  Mf  *■ 
nt'oid  danger  is  to  mcrt  it  pltm^" 

Ahhongh  I  have  been  ansl^  m>  wrfw** 
might  have  been  in  aiu*BiiBg  faat  taamf^ 
ent's  query,  I  trust  the  el  wmeoys  miitM  ^ 
mitted  may  notbealtogethwi 

13.  Oxfbid  TUlai,  Hswiiuiiwll 


4*  S.  IX.  April  20,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


325 


K,  H.  M.'8  question  regardiDg  this  famous  cha- 
racter is  charming  from  its  simplicity.  He  was 
bom  about  1735,  was  created  a  baronet  Nov.  30, 
1782,  and  died  June  6,  1807 :  so,  "  unless  he  was 
a  bird,"  could  hardly  be  found  in  any  "  Baronet- 
ages or  Knif^htages  published  subsequently  to  the 
year  1858." 

On  referring  to  the  three  indices  of  "  N.  &  Q./' 
it  appears  that  only  one  of  his  celebrated  sayings 
has  been  discussed  in  these  pages,  but  there  are 
many  others  well  worth  rescue  from  oblivion. 
They  were  principally  delivered  in  the  last  days 
of  the  Irish  HouBe  of  Commons. 

Speaking  of  the  Union' on  one  occasion,  he  said 
be  **  would  have  the  two  sisters  embrace  like  one 
brother.'* 

Another  time :  '^  I  smell  a  rat ;  I  see  it  floating 
in  the  air  before  me ;  but  mark  me,  sir,  1*11  nip  it 
in  the  bud." 

At  the  breaking  out  of  the  rebellion  he  wrote : 
"You  may  judge  of  our  state  when  I  tell  you 
that  I  write  this  letter  with  a  sword  in  one  hand 
and  ^  pistol  in  the  other.'' 

His  pronunciation  of  French  was  after  the  old 
fashion :  "  Here  perhaps,  sir,  the  murderous  Mar- 
shall law  men  [Marseiuois]  would  break  in,  cut  us 
to  mince-meat,  and  thcow  our  bleeding  heads  on 
that  table  to  stare  us  in  the  face." 

Chitteldrooo. 


I  think  infonnation  concerning  this  personage, 
who  was  a  member  of  the  Irish  Parliament  con- 
temporary with  Curran,  could  be  found  in  any 
history  of  that  period.  There  is  an  article  on  him 
and  his  "  bulls ''  in  the  ninth  volume  of  All  the 
Year  Rowid,  p.  211.  Probably  the  paragraph  in 
The  Echo  was  intended  as  a  jocose  comparison  of 
a  living  blunderer  with  a  person  whose  reputation 
for  odd  statements  was  established.  A.  S. 

[See  4«»  9.  viii.  400.— Ed.] 


Weston-super-Mare  (4*'*  S.  ix.  281.) — Beg- 
ging your  querist's  pardon,  this  town  is  not  "  al- 
ways named  as  if  Alare  was  one  syllable."  It  is 
only  so  pronounced  by  those  who  know  no  better, 
or  half-educated  people,  or  sometimes  in  irony,  as 
it  is  also  souietimes  called  Weston-super- ynto/. 

Easto!^. 

FnrGER  Cakes,  Llantwit  Major  (4*^  S.  ix. 
175.)— The  Rev.  E.  W.  Vaughan,  who  has  been 
▼iemr  of  the  parish  since  1845,  assures  me  he  never 
heard  of  any  such  custom.  Having  *^ interviewed'' 
many  others  with  the  same  unsatisfactory  result, 
I  am  anxious  to  learn  whether  R.  &  M.  have  ever 
seta  any  of  the  Christmas  cakes  in  question  P 

G.  M.  T. 

'  Tkoagh  I  know  not  the  oiigin  of  the  costooi,  I 
iriQ aeation  that  aiColcheater,  aome  thirtj  jetxt 


ago  (perhaps  now  also)  large  sweet  buns  were 
made  at  Christmas,  upon  each  of  which  were  four 
paste  figures,  like  ducks  or  birds,  with  currants 
for  eyes.  One  was  placed  on  each  quarter  of  the 
cake,  looking  towards  the  centre,  where  was  a 
tiny  bit  of  paste  hollowed,  with  two  or  three  cur- 
rants in  it,  to  represent,  possibly,  a  pool 

AWCBSTRT  OF  PRESIDENT  WASHINflTOW  (4*  S. 

ix.  140,  248,  302.)— If  the  writers  of  the  notes  on 
these  pages,  and  of  others  that  have  recently  ap- 
peared in  "  N.  &  Q.,"  will  refer  to  the  Herald  and 
Genecdoffid  for  1807  (vol.  iv.  pp.  49-04),  they  will 
find  a  psper  which,  as  I  have  flattered  myself 
thoroughly  disproves  the  alleged  descent  of  Pre- 
sident Washington  j&om  Lawrence  Washington 
of  Sulprave.  It  is  a  pity  that  such  an  error  should 
be  periodically  and  persistently  perpetuated,  after 
it  has  been  completely  and  publicly  exposed.  The 
paper  referred  to  has  been  separately  reprinted| 
DOth  in  England  and  America,  and  a  copy  will  be 
found  in  the  British  Museum,  calendared  under 
the  name  of  Joseph  LsicxnBL  Chestkk. 

C.  R.  M.  will  find  it  proved* that ''  Ijawrence 
Washington  of  Sulgrave  was  not  the  ancestor  of 
President  George  Washington,"  if  he  will  read 
the  interesting  paper  on  the  ''  Ancestry  of  Wash- 
ington '*  by  that  accomplished  and  accurate  ^ne- 
alogist.  Col.  J.  L.  Chester,  which  was  pnnted 
some  years  ago  in  the  Herald  and  Qeneahgut, 

Tewabs. 

"  Flesh'd  thy  Maidew  Sword  "  (4^  S.  ix. 

311.)  —  In    Ma8singer*s   Virgin  Martyr ^  Act  L 

Scene  1,  is —     • 

**  The  ne'er  enoufrh  commended  Antoninus 
So  well  bath  flesh'd  hia  maiden  sword,  and  dved 
His  snowy  plumes  so  deep  in  enemies*  blood.*' 

The  KxionT  of  Mobab. 

H.M.S.  "  CnlHTicLEBB  "  (4«»»  S.  ix.  261.)  — 
Without  knowiog  the  end  of  the  "  Chanticleer  " 
of  1S32,  it  may  be  safely  assumed  that  she  is 
not  the  /ifram-sloop  of  that  name  just  paid  out 
of  commission,  nor  is  it  likely  that  a  vessel  doing 
duty  forty  years  ago  as  a  hospital-ship  in  the  river 
Thames  s&ould  within  this  current  period  be 
actively  employed  on  so  distant  a  station  as  the 
Pacific.  The  general  question  of  H.  W.  D.  had 
better  be  referred  to  the  new  Board  of  Admiralty 
when  constructed:  but  it  will  be  necessair  to 
define  the  term  ditty^  active  service  and  harbour 
service  being  two  different  things.         W.  T.  M. 

I  can  very  well  remember  seeing  the  ''  Betsj 
Cain  ^  lying  stranded  off  Tynemouth  some  forfef 
years  ago  or  more.  She  was  the  vessel  that 
brooght  over  William  and  Mary  in  1688;  shs 
most  have  been  at  least  140  3«sxa  ^:&A^ 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


(i^  S.  IX.  Apbil  20,  "Tl 


Lord  Libutbnant  (4»>»  S.  ix.  220,  249,  283.)— 
Without  giving  any  opinion  as  to  what  is  the  coT' 
red  plural  form,  I  will  only  observe  that  grammar 
is  greatly  swayed  by  custom  and  convenience, 
and  it  requires  no  great  foresight  to  predict  that, 
sooner  or  later,  lord-lieutenant  will  be  practically 
one  word,  with  a  plural  lord-lietUenants. 

But  I  cannot  pass  without  a  protest  the  state- 
ment of  Mb.  Sergeant  (made  in  direct  opposi- 
tion to  the  fact)  that  such  a  form  as  loras  lieu- 
tenants would  be  foreign  to  **  English  grammar;''  a 
statement  which  he  caps  by  saying  that  ho  cannot 
see  what  the  French  form  les  hommes  marchans 
has  to  do  with  the  question.  It  has  everything 
to  do  with  it,  because  our  old  authors  constantly 
copied  the  French,  and  formed  the  plurals  of 
adjectives  (of  French  origin)  in  -«  or  -es.  Uence 
we  find  in  Chaucer  wateres  principales  and  cosins 
ffermainSf  and  in  much  later  English  letters-patents^ 
and  the  like.  As  for  plural  adjectives  in  -s  used 
alone,  there  are  plenty  of  them,  when  used  as 
substantives,  such  as  worthies,  calms,  prodigals, 
empties,  &c.,  though  this  does  not  bear  upon  the 
present  question.  .See  Dr.  Morris*s  Historical 
Outlines  of  English  Accidence,  p.  104,  for  further 
examples.  I  hope  that  this  work,  now  just  pub- 
lished, will  tend  to  correct  many  of  the  prevailing 
notions  regarding  English  grammar,  and  that  a 
time  may  come  when  it  will  be  recognised  by 
writers  on  the  subject  that  they  ought  not  to 
evolve  what  is  "correct"  out  of  the  depths  of 
their  internal  consciousness,  but  condescend  to  the 
humbler,  yet  safer,  plan  of  examining  the  phrase- 
ologies which  our  authors  have  actually  at  various 
times  employed.  Walter  W.  Skeat. 

1,  Gintra  Terrace,  Cambridge. 

How  is  it  that  the  title  ''Lord''  is  added  to 
that  of  "  Lieutenant "  of  a  county  ?  Is  it  not  the 
fact,  that  in  official  documents  they  are  called 
"  Lieutenants  "  only  ?  The  expressiozis  in  the  Act 
of  2  Geo.  HI.  chap.  xx.  sect.  5,  are,  *'  Uis  Ma- 
jesty's Lieutenant  of  a  county,  riding,  or  place." 
I  once  noticed  they  were  called  simply  "  Lieu- 
tenants, &c."  in  a  general  order  relating  to  a 
review.  Did  the  title  **  Lord "  come  into  use 
because  the  office  was  generally  held  by  a  peer  of 

Earliament  ?  Tliere  is  a  marginal  note  in  KufF- 
ead's  edition  of  Statutes  styling  the  **  Lieu- 
tenant" ''  Lord  Lieutenant."  (Stat.  2  Geo.  III. 
p.  384.)  T.  F. 

Microcosm  (4»'>;S.  ix.  01.)— Like  Mr.  Ran- 
dolph, I  have  not  Plato's  Timanta  at  hand ;  unlike 
Mr.  Kandolfh,  1  have  never  road  a  word  of  it. 
Thus  ignorant,  I  ask,  Did  Plato  intend  our  plane- 
tary system  ?  which,  Sirius  included,  I  conceive 
to  be,  compared  with  infinity,  something  smaller 
than  a  nutshell,  or  the  mundus  universus.  Infinite 
space  can  hardly  possess  a  form,  which  (to  my 
non-Bcientific  notion  at  lei     )  implies  something 


beyond  the  thing  formed ;  and  if,  as  the  PUtonk 
philosophy  sets  forth,  ''  all  Deity  is  globular."  it 
cannot  but  have  a  circumference ;  beyond  wbieh 
there  is  something  extraneous,  and.  independent  of 
Deity.  Then  again:  Infinity  has  no  dzcam- 
f  erence,  and  consequently  no  centre ;  it  is  to  space 
what  eternity  is  to  time,  more  readily  oonoeiTBd 
than  understood;  but  I  seriously  desire  to  be 
helped  to  its  understanding.  E.  L.  S. 


*•  GXTTTA   CAVAT  LAPIDEM,"  ETC.  (4**»  S.  ijL  «», 

167,  269.) — I  cannot  now  remember  where  I  met 

with  the  following  distich.  The  last,  undoubted!;^ 

is  a  modem  and  a  halting^  line : — 

*'  Gatta  cavat  lapidem,  non  vi,  sed  pxpe  cadendo ; 
Si  fias  doctus,  non  vi,  scd  saepe  legendo.'* 

As  regards  the  first  line,  Mr.  Haxage  says  he 
cannot  remember  any  of  our  English  poets  who 
have  appropriated  the  idea.  Lord  B;p'on,  for  onei 
has,  and  in  his  Don  Juan,  canto  vi.  stansa  90L 
These  are  his  lines : — 

"  Tis  the  vilo  daily  drop  on  drop  which  wean 
The  soul  out  (like  the  stone)  with  petty  cares.** 

Fred.  Bviii 

EcHELES  (4***  S.  ix.  206.)— Mr.  Baicaqs  queries 
whether  this  name  =  steps.  It  appears  to  me 
certain  that  it  =  Eg-hills,  where  eg  is  the  gut- 
tural of  ey,  the  Celtic  root-word  for  water.  In  At 
A.-S.  Chronicle  the  elder  form  of  our  hiU  is  nun 
than  once  found  as  hde,  as  in  Teotanhele.  Eode^ 
Norfolk,  is  near  a  sandy  ridge  on  the  seft-oosi^ 
and  formerly  had  also  an  inland  water  near  it 
E(f  occurs  also  in  Egham  Wick  (water)  neff 
Windsor,  and  in  Egmere,  Norfolk.  Egmere  Hole 
at  the  latter  has  a  popular  superstition,  or  te- 
lesque  proverb  rather  in  the  present  aay,  eoi' 
nected  with  it  amusingly  illustratiye  of  ^^ogih 
nimborum  pntria.  In  a  district  which  lies  to  tkl 
eastward  of  this  place,  it  is  said  that  all  hesiy 
rains  come  from  Egmere  Hole.  I  think  I  hilt 
heard  of  a  similar  saying  connected  with  othv 
locaUtie&  W.  E 

Serjeant  (4"»  S.  ix.  237.)— IbeUeve  S.  is  z^ 
in  the  matter  of  the  confusion  of  sergeaiU  wA 
scyrcafitj  and  the  mistake  is  of  old  oocuifene^ 
There  are  in  England  twelve  families  spel&ff 
their  names  Sergeant,  Serjeant,  Samant,Saijeeaty 
Scargent,  Seargeaunt^  Sergeaunt,  SsigfAunt^  Stf* 
gent,  Sarjent,  Sargant,  Sarjant — and  almost  "qoflfi^ 
cunque  vis  addere" — ^nearly  all  the  up-looDB^ 
branch  es  whereof  adopt  the  griffin  as  their  heitUv 
sign,  preferring  cognation  and*^iioimikationiiitk 
that  respectaole  old  beast  rather  than  witb  * 
Norman  man-at-arms.  (My  grand-nnele  nN0 
by  Ser  G6aimt,  and  as  I  never  knew  cue  of  Ihi 
family  over  five  feet  six  inchea,  I  think  it  *  Wtr 
venient  derivation.)  J^^     ] 

Scores  (4^^  a  ix.  161,  i      V-Thewod'MlC  J 
as  applied  to  a  p  okw  7fi>MtfwHBy| 


4«S.IX.  ArsiL»,  72,] 


XOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


Lowestoft,  though  U  mfty  be  ia  &  wider  cense    five  jears  after  MH.  Uejer  and  Stoop,  of  Brage^ 
local     It  is  moat  frsquentlf,  if  not  ezduuvelj,    analysed  some  coloured  rain,  and  found  the  colour- 

"  '■  .1       .  -J .    —      ing  matter  was  chloride  of  cobalt.  Some  collected 

bj  Piof.  Giuli  yielded  CBibooBte  of  lime,  man- 
ganese, alumina,  and  silica,  and  some  vegetable 
organism.  Ciimson  cliffs,  near  Cape  York,  Baffin's 
Bay,  were  eiamined  by  Capt  Rosa  in  1818.  Thia 
waa  oning  to  partic[es  like  small  seeds  (one 
tiiouaandth  to  three  thousandth  of  an  inch  diam.). 


applied  to  paeaagea  on  a  rather  steep  descent ;  per- 
haps where  tbereihas  been  origmally  a  water 
channel.  Rant  was  probably  the  came  of  a  red- 
dent  next  the  entrance  of  the  score  which  bears 
hia  name,  otherwise  unknown  io  the  chronicles  of 
Loweatoft.  BitBO  is  certainly  mis^en  in  sup- 
posing that  "ecores"  are  "similar  to  the  Yar- 
mouth rows,"  or  that  the  latter  are  ever  called 
scorea.  Consult  Gillingwater,  History  of  Loiceitoft, 
p.  356 ;  Nail's  East  Anglian  Glosiary,  and  Man- 
ahip's  Histury  of  Great  Yarmontk,  ed.  Palmer,  i. 
66,  271.  S.  W.  Rii. 

TnBEG  Lb&tes  eatkh  fob  thb  Hoit  Sacba- 
1I31KT  (4""  S.  ix.  39,  224.)  — Io  much  early  me- 
diaeval "belief"  there  is  evidence  of  strong  futh 
in  the  life-giving  properties  of  the  three  leaves : 
compare  what  Mr.  Cox  writes  at  p.  35  of  the  In- 
troduction to  Fopalar  Romaneet  of  the  Middle 
Age»:  Cox  and  Jones,  1871.  He  is  treating  of  a 
Oermaji  myth,  in  which  "snake-leaves"  are  in- 
troduced ;  — 


"In  the  German  tale  a  p 
tbe  dead  body  of  his  wife.  ■ 
■oother  soake  briaga  in  thr 
tbe  nrered  poitioDS  and  re 


ince,  >«eiDg  a  niake  ipproocb 
uls  it  In  two,  and  preseatl}' 
t  Jeont,  obich  it  plocea  npoii 
lores  the  snake  to  life," 


In  the  Christian  custom  heaven-life,  in  the 
aarliet  one  earth-life,  is  to  be  given  bj  the  three 
leaves.  The  number  tia^e  would  recommend  tbe 
myth  for  translation  to  Christian  uses  as  being 
emblematical  of  tbe  Trinity.  Th.  K.  Tdixt. 
BrougbloD,  Manchester. 

Black  Eaib  (4"-  8.  is.  137, 186,  267.)— In 
paper  on"  Coloured  Rain  andSnow,"  in  ThtLature 
HvKT  (volume  for  1SC7},  it  is  stated  that  Mr. 
Donkin  noticed  a  few  years  before  that  date  a 
"gjoomy"  rain  falling  at  Greenwich,  containing 
great  numbers  of  small  black  flies.  A  black  rain 
fell  at  Montreal  in  1810,  and  when  analysed  was 
found  to  contain  soot.  It  was  discovered  that 
some  forests  in  the  south  of  the  river  Ohio  had 
taken  fire,  and  tbe  sooty  particles  bad  been  con- 
veyed in  the  air.  A  black  rain  fell  at  Birming- 
ham in  May  1806,  and  such  rains  are  not  uncom- 
mon in  Scotland.  These  raina  are  often  of  volcanic 
origin;  of  such  a  nature  one  which  occurred  in 
1781,  aixty  or  seventy  miles  from  Mount  Etna, 
was  believed  to  bo. 

Tbe  blood-like  red  of  a  rain  which  fell  a^  the 
Hague,  in  1670,  wa8  caused  by  swarms  of  small 
red  insects,  perliaps  a  kind  of  wnter-flea  (Police* 
arboretcetiit!^) ,  M.  Sementini  analysed  some  rain 
wbich  fell  in  Italy,  and  found  its  colouring  matter 
deposited  from  it,  by  the  action  of  heat,  became 
brown,  then  black,  and  lastly  red.  This  may  have 
come  from  an  active  volcuio.  Bed  rain  fell  in 
the  vaUey  of  Ooeglia,  Hedmont,  on  Oct  27, 1814. 


Dr.  Wollaston  regarded  this  colouring  n 

of  vegetable  origin.  John  Pigqot,  Jmr. 


notorious  as  an  old  ballad  manufacturer.     H» 

feasted  one  of  Ms  shams  on  Evans,  who  inserted 
it  in  the  firat  edition  of  his  old  balUds.  Tha 
ballad  was  "The  Laidly  Worm."  Lambe  was,  it 
is  aaid,  in  the  babit  of  giving  bis  fo^eriea  to 
ballad  printers  at  Newcastle,  Hawick,  and  other 
places;  who  published  them  and  sold  them  to 
chapmen  and  flying  stationers,  and  so  obtained  a 
circulation  for  them  amongst  the  peasantry.  There 
are  good  reasons  for  believing  that  some  of 
Lamoe's  compositions  found  their  way  into  Scott's 
Border  MiiutreCinf,  as  did  some  of  the  shams  of 
Surteee  and  othera.  I  have  been  requested  to 
edit  a  new  edition  of  J7i>iii&n.FV«U;  but  the  copy 
forwarded  to  me  by  an  enterprising  puV 
liaher  I  find  to  be  so  bad  and  incorrect,  that  I 
have  returned  it  with  an  intimatioa  that  I  cannot 
adopt  such  a  text.  Several  of  the  stanzaa  are 
evidently  modem,  and  are  probably  from  the  mint 
that  produced  the  "Laidly  Worm."  Ds.  Rnc- 
sault'h  remarks  are  very  mteresting,  and  contun 
accurate  information  that,  with  bis  permission,  I 
shall  make  use' of  should  I  be  enabled  to  edit  an 
edition. 

In  conclusion  I  would  ask,  was  there  ever  auch 
a  schoolmaster  as  "  Mr.  Bichard  Guy  of  Ingleton," 
who,  according  to  tbe  Skipton  copy,  lived  "about 
the  time  of  Queen  Elizabeth"?  I  suspect  that 
be  owes  hia  paternity  to  Mr.  Lambe,  and  that  he 
is  nearly  related  to  "  Duncan  Frazer,  Shepherd  on 
Cheviot,"  and  author  of  "  The  Laidly  Worm," 
Jakbs  Henrt  Dizdh,  LL.D, 

HOSNECK  AND  JEsaAMT  (4"-  S.  ix.  94, 149, 204.) 
have  been  widely 
>m  a  Lancashire 
pace  e^ger,''  aay  half  a  century  since.         P.  P. 

Gawviboh  (4""  S.  is.  200,  367.)  — Onufiy  is 
much  used  in  Iduicasbire,  an  amusing  instance 

f  its  use  being  when  one  of  two  at  a  game  of 
"chaff"  says  to  the  other,  "Qo  whom  (home) 
and  tell  tfai  mother  to  cheen  (chun)  th'  gaubj 
up."  Th.  K.  Tullt. 

Broo^loi),  UanchiateT. 

Bocin)  TowxBS  or  Nokiole  (4"  S.  iz.  188, 
186,  2M.)— Tbe  late  B«t.  Dr.   Cromwell  onco 


328 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4tt8.IX.AFBiL9Qp'7S. 


SBSOied  me  that  he  had  made  a  careful  examina- 
tion of  the  round  towers  of  Norfolk  and  Suffolk, 
and  was  convinced  they  were  much  older  than 
the  churches  to  which  they  were  attached.  I 
have  not  seen  any  of  them,  hut  from  the  descrip- 
tion given  by  Mr.  C.  W.  Barklet,  they  seem  to 
resemble  the  round  towers  of  Ireland  and  Switzer- 
land;  particularly  in  the  mode  of  entrance. 

James  Henry  Dixok. 

"  I  Kxow  ON  wHicn  Syde  my  Bread  is  but- 
tred"  (-a***  S.  ix.  203.)  — In  John  Hey  wood's 
Dialogue f  J^r.f  2nd  party  7th  chap,  (first  printed 
in  154(5),  we  have  this  proverb. 

John  Addis,  M.A. 

Rustiji^^ton,  Littlehompton,  Sussex. 

JosHTJA  Brookes,  F.R.S.  (4***  S.  ix.  83.) — Some 

amusement  was  caused  many  years  ago,  when  I 

was  a  student,  by  the  folloTving  lines  which  were 

posted  above  the  door  of  a  house  in  Elbow  Lane, 

City — a  street  which  no  longer  exists.    I  copied 

the  lines  at  the  time,  and  I  now  transcribe  them 

from  my  commonplace-book : — 

"  They  who  enter  here  will  speedy 
lie  in  trim  for  Doctor  Eady : 
When  they're  enter'd  in  his  books. 
They're  just  half  way  to  Doctor  Brooks." 

Viator  (1.) 

"  Gentle  "(4"»  S.  ix.  200,  200.)— The  word 
GiUyvor,  evidently  another  form  of  Gilliver,  occurs 
twice  in  TJic  Winter's  Tale  (Act  IV.  Sc.  3) ;  first 
"where  Perdita,  speaking  to  Polixenes,  says — 

** the  fair'st  flowers  o'  the  season 

Are  our  carnations,  and  streak'd  gilly  vors, 
Which  some  call  nature's  bastards  ** ; 

and  later  Polixenes  to  Perdita — 

**  Then  make  your  (^arden  rich  in  gillyvors, 
And  do  not  call  them  bastards." 

Mr.  Byce  pves  gUlywr  as  an  old  word  for 
gillyflower  (77uf  Works  of  William  Shakespeare^ 
Sbe  text  revised  by  the  Rev.  Alexander  Dyce, 
1807,  vol.  ix.  [beinf^  Glossary),  p.  184).  A  study 
of  his  article  would,  I  feel  sure,  gratify  corre- 
spondents interested  in  thb  question. 

Tli.  K.  TULLY. 
Broughton,  Manchester. 

LrxnEi:  (4'**  S.  ix.  252.) — I  am  in  great  hope 
that  the  paragraph  in  your  "  Miscellanous  Notes  " 
taken  from  TJie  Guardian,  in  reference  to  the 
destruction  by  fire  of  certain  memorials  of  the 
great  reformer  at  Erfurt,  may  prove  to  be  an  in- 
correct rejwrt.  There  has  certainly  been  an  un- 
fortunate fire  at  Krfurt,  by  which  an  orphanage 
has  been  destroyed;  but  it  may  be  remembered 
that  it  is  the  Castle  of  Wartbourg,  near  Eisenach, 
where  Luther  was  confined,  and  there  are  his  room 
and  his  chair,  and  the  splashings  of  his  ink-bottle 
on  the  wall.  1  can  say  nothing  about  his  Bible, 
but  it  will  probably  be  found  there  too,  and  that 
our  regrets  have  been  unduly  excited.        W.  S. 


''  God  in  the  GENBRAnoire  of  xhib  R» 
oub"  (4^^  8.  ix.  118.)— It  is  ]>oe8iUe  that  F.1L6. 
ma^r  obtain  this  little  book,  or  infonnation  oobobbh 
in^  it,  by  inquiry  at  that  excellent  inatitatiooy  tib 
Cripples'  Home.  It  was  published  and  sold  fa 
its  benefit.  S.  M.  & 

Liquids  (4*^  S.  ix.  235.}— With  regard  to  lb. 
Sergeant  s^  observations,  it  may  be  remembeni 
that  among  the  modem  Greeks,  following  tb 
ancients,  a  reverse  process  takes  place.  To  ft 
labial  a  liquid  is  added ;  thus  the  foreign  6  it  made 
m6,  and  j)  is  made  nip,  thus  Mhe  for  Bey,  Pawmr 
for  Vapor,  &c.  It  is,- however,  to  be  noted  uit 
p  also  stands  alone,  but  beta  being  pronounoodvi^ 
a  6  is  obtained  by  the  addition  of  the  liqnid. 
It  is  also  to  be  noticed  that  the  liquid  m  awcti 
its  labial  b  or  p,  and  the  liquid  it  its  dental  d^  i, 
tit,  dh.  With  regard  to  iron,  it  may  be  ohaerrai 
that  the  soutliern  pronunciation  of  the  r  is  no  fi^- 
nrcHsion.  There  can  be  no  doubt  that  in  aontiha 
English  there  is,  as  in  some  other  languages  be- 
sides, the  rough  r  or  rr  and  the  soft  r. 

Htde  Clibik 

"Aired"  (4*>»  S.  ix.  172,  228,  28a)— ToB 
philological  correspondent  of  Sydenham  HOI  doai 
oattle  on  behalf  of  the  ''  editorial  remark "  fern 
which  I  dissented,  not  from  any  desire  to  difii^ 
but  simply  to  present  the  matter  in  another  nsv. 
A  room  aired  by  opening  the  windows,  and  aUvw- 
ing  the  air  to  blow  through  it,  suggests  one  tiin^ 
and  damp  clothes  which  have  been  arstf— ia 
emptied  or  exhausted  of  moisture— quite  anothff> 
Ared  (npoken  ar-ed)  in  the  vemaculix  of  the  Seo^ 
tish  Lowlands,  as  already  stated,  has  this  men- 
ing,  and  is  apparently  one  and  the  same  «tt 
Icelandic  oreydd — a  word  of  kindred  sigaifioim 
It  is  a  recollection  of  more  than  thirty  years  Ih^ 
being  storm-bound  in  a  farm-house  in  fiie  ooai^ 
of  Forfar,  I  heard  the  farmer*s  wife  call  to  ktf 
servant  girl,  with  reference  to  some  newly-wadtfi 
clothes  which  had  been  hanging  apOB  a  ropeiafkl 
bam,  '^  Odd,  lassie,  hae  ye  no  hroM  in  *  the  dtfi 
yet  to  be  aredf  Heist  ye  quick  an'  pit  than  tf 
(to])  the  fyre,  an'  hae  the  wot  Uien  oot  o*  Am!' 
This  happened  during  a  pelting  wintry  run,  lAv 
the  air  was  surcharged  with  moisture,  aadevsfOBr 
tion  by  atmospheric  influence  imposnble.  STDl 
CuANCE  prefers  to  ding  to  his  own  inugin^ 
in  contempt  of  known  facts,  the  loas  must  bs  h^ 
May  I  be  permitted  to  add  that  my  note  doesfli^ 
"  serve  to  show  how  people  will  go  out  of  thi 
way  to  hunt  for  etymologies."  The  word  ladii 
concomitant  recurred  to  my  memory  oa  nadim 
the  ''  editorial  remark."  J.  Gk.  & 

Kanz-des-Vachbs  (i^*  S.  ix.  220, 88a)— Ml 
expression,  according  to  M.  littr^  anmaM  k 
the  canton  of  Fribourg,  the  imd  rmishdag  ftk 


■^ 


*  Brought  fa. 


J 


4*  &  IX.  April  20, 'TS.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


329 


German  for  ''  course."  Db.  Buchhedc,  in  making 
hiB  suggestion,  evidently  does  not  consider  that 
raug^des-vaches  is  almost  meaningless  in  French. 
Moreover,  he  seems  to  forget  that  in  German  the 
word  Kuhretf/en  is  used  as  often  as  Kuhreihen,  and 
surely  reiyen  has  nothing  to  do  with  rang.  Still 
I  must  say  that  many  Frenchmen  pronounce  rata 
in  the  same  way  as  rang,  while  others  sound  the  z 
as  &  G.  A.  ScHKUMrF. 

Whitby. 

BuBNS  AXD  Keble  (4'"  S.  Lx.  loS,  285.)— The 
proverb  to  which  attention  has  been  directed 
Deing  *'  ex  ipsa  hominum  natura  sumptum  ada- 
gium/'  may  be  expected  frequently  to  reappear. 

In  Homer,  Od.  xv.  400,  there  is — 

tens  Z}}  fidKa  iroWa  vddij  kuI  t<$\a'  4ira\ri6y. 

In  Aristotle,  Bhef.  i.  9,  this  is  cited,  And  in 
Hhet.  i.  11,  there  is  — 

iW*  li'ta  Koi  obx  ^S^o,   ^v  y  Scrrfpov  KoXhv  icai   ayaShv 
rh    fiera    rovrOf   odev  koI  tovt     ttprjrcUf   oAA    ii^v  toi, 

ct004yra  fjmiAvrtaOai  vovuvy  which  is  from  a  fragment 
of  the  Andromache  of   Euripides,  preserved  in 
Macrobius,  S(it.  vii.  2. 
In  Cicero,  De  Fin.  there  is  — 

*'Quid  si  etiara  jucunda  memoria  est  prjctcritoram 
malorum,  Tulgo  enim  dicitur,  *  Jucundi  acti  labores;'  " 

and  where    there    is    a  translation  of   a  Greek 
proverb  resembling  the  former : — 

"  Suavis  est  laborum  praeteritorum  memoria." 

In  Virgil,  Aui.  i.  203,  there  is — 

**  Forsan  et  hiec  olim  meminisse  juvabit." 

In  Seneca,  Here,  Fur.  656  — 

'*  quae  fuit  durum  pati, 
Meminis'se  dulce  est.** 

And  in  Juvenal,  xii.  82 : — 

" .  .  .  .  gaudent  ubi  vcrtice  raso 
Garrula  securi  narrare  pericula  nautue/' 

Where  the  Delphin  edition  has  this  note  — 

"  Cicero,  Kftist.  v.  12  :   *  Ilabct  prieteriti  doloris  re- 
sordatio  dtiectatiunem." 

In  Cowley,  as  read  in  Bysshe's  Art  of  English 
^Boetry,  p.  281,  London,  1710,  it  is — 

*•  Thinirs  which  offend  when  present^  and  affright, 
In  memory  well  painted  move  delight." 

The  above  will  evince  that  there  is  no  reason 


or  supposing  that  Keble   had  recourse   to   any 
Snglish  reproduction  of  this  saying. 

Ed.  Marshall. 

History  of  the  Vaudois  (4"»  S.  ix.  138,  210.) 
Tfctf  History  of  the  Waldenses,  by  the  Il«v.  John 
'aylor,  Wesleyan  minister,  may  be  added  to  the 
jgt.  It  was  published  at  Rochdale  at  the  close 
f  the  last  century.  The  book  is  scarce,  but  may 
robably  be  met  with  in  some  of  the  public  libra- 


ries of  the  north  of  England.    Bibliozhscaju 
Chetham.  might  be  consulted. 

Stephen  Jagkbov. 

Shakespeare  :  Coktemporabt  CRmciBK  (4^ 
S.  ix.  237,  282.;— May  I  be  allowed  space  for  a 
little  explanation?  In  transcribing  my  note  on 
this  subject  from  the  brouilion,  I  inadyertently 
omitted  a  word.  I  wrote  — '*  I  was  not  aware  of 
the  existence  of  more  than  a  single  contemporary'' 
[hostile]  "  reference  to  our  great  bard,  and  should 
be  glad  to  be  informed  where  the  other  is  to  be 
found."  The  word  within  brackets  is  the  omis- 
sion to  which  I  allude.  But,  taking  my  sentence 
as  it  stands,  without  the  omitted  word,  I  do  not 
exactly  see  how,  in  the  phrase  of  Me.  Addis,  I 
'*  make  more  astounding  the  astounding  declara- 
tion of  Once  a  Week,  Be  it  observed  .that  I 
declare  or  asseverate  nothing  whatever,  but  simply 
express  a  bond  Jide  wish  for  information  on  tlie 
pomt  in  question.  What  on  earth,  I  ask,  is  there 
to  astound  anybody  ii^this  P  •  Your  correspondent 
girds  at  my  poor  doubt  with  the  austere  contempt 
exhibited  by  the  gravedigger  in  his  interview 
with  Hamlet  —  "Cannot  you  tell  that?  every 
fool  can  tell  that."  Howbeit  I  thank  Me.  Addis 
for  his  references,  some  of  which  are  new  to  me. 

H.  A.  KEimEDY. 

Waterloo  Lodge,  Reading. 

The  Influence  of  Diet  on  Life  (4***  S.  ix, 
280.) — Permit  me  to  draw  the  attention  of  your 
correspondent  Maesocheir,  if  he  has  not  already 
seen  it,  to  the  '*  Memoir  of  Thomas  Wood,  the 
Abstemious  Miller,"  in  The  Book  of  Wonderful 
Characters,  published  by  John  Camden  Hotten 
(no  date),  at  p.  146  et  seq.  W^ood  is  there  stated 
to  have  improved  an  impaired  constitution  by  a 
severe  course  of  abstemiousness  and  re^lanty, 
and  to  have  died  in  1783,  in  his  sixty-third  year. 
The  book  mentioned  is  an  abridgment,  or  ''  r^- 
chaufftS  *'  of  Wilson's  Wonderful  Characters  and 
Caulfield's  Portraits  of  JRemarkable  Persons, 

John  Picefobd,  M.A. 

Ilungate  Street,  Pickering. 

PuRGT  (4"'  S.  ix.  263,  310.)  —  "  Purgy "  is  a 
common  word  with  the  lower  order  here,  the 
next  parish  to  Hagley,  and  in  the  neighbonring 
villages  (North  Worcestershire),  but  how  far  its 
use  extends  I  do  not  know.  I  have  heard  it  moet 
frequently  applied  in  the  phrase  '*  a  purgy  temper," 
meaning  a  temper  obstinate  and  impracticable.  I 
should  presume  that  it  is  a  local  corruption  of 
perky,  derived  most  probably  from  pert,  Welsh 
percu,  to  trim  or  make  smsurt ;  or  perhaps  from 
the  French  tqtert,  open,  free,  or  impudent ;  Latm 
apertus,  ViGOEN. 

Clent,  near  Stourbridge. 

Bishop  Hobhe  of  Norwich  (4^  S.  ix.  241, 
290.) — A  chantry  in  the  pariah  church  of  Bnde^ 
a  viUage  in  Sussex,  near  the  coast  and  in  ikn 


330 


NOTES  AKD  QUERIES. 


[4«8.tZ.ArHi,a^*ll- 


n^hbouThood  of  Hnstiii^  was  formerl;  in  tbe 
poseeanoD  of  the  Home  lamilj,  who  were  also 
patrons  of  the  living.  Felida,  the  daughter  nnd  | 
cohMress  of  Bishop  llorne,  carried  the  manor  | 
fitrm  to  which  the  chantry  is  appended,  and  the 

Ktronage  of  the  tivinf^  in  marnage  to  the  Rev. 
>bert  Hele  Selbj  Ileie.     See  Suaie.r- Arch.  Coll., 
Tol.  yiii.  S.  A. 


"TsB  Cloud  with  the  Silver  Lisiku  "  (4'" 
S.  ix.  230,  289.)— Though  thinking;  that  it  would 
be  a  most  difficult  matter  to  trace  the  exact  pater- 
mtj  of  this  beautiful  sajing-,  yet  the  idea  must  be 
a  TOty  old  one  indeed. 

"  Doe  [ouch  of  luture  makei  the  whole  world  kin," 
As  Mr.  Tew  sajs,  "  it  is  one  of  those  happy 
tliougbts  which  go  directly  to  the  heart,"  and  the 
truth  of  it  at  once  strikes  a  TesDoosive  chord  in 
the  mind  of  every  one.  The  following  passages, 
from  three  of  the  gieateat  poets  of  Greece,  Rome, 
and  Ekigland  (j^chylus,  Horace,  and  Shakspeare), 
seem  to  me  to  be  parallel,  and  to  contain  the 
germs  of  the  same  thought :  — 

XOP.  'EiTTt  S«ui  1'  (t'  iVx^i  KttBmprtpa- 
mAAiiicf  f  ir  KaKolffi  rhw  ^itxtt^ov 

Septem  contra  ThiboM,  v,  HG  tt  Kq. 


it  has  been  suggested  that  Hkrlowin  Ml 

was  merely  a  nickname  or  alias,  Qailbert  da  Okb> 
iiin  coming  from  Aries,  as  from  Anjou  Aflgvril^ 
from  Poitou  Foitevin,  from  Paris  PuiacH,  fioK 
>'ice  Nizzard.  SoRerlennof  ComtesrillB^^ 
l)e  so  called,  as  we  should  say  nt  Batii  of  m  "Pn^ 
»ien  of  Iiondon,"  and  Comtesville  ba  the  CouA 
Ville,  Burgh,  or  Borough,  and  of  that  nrpl 
l)urgh  come  the  surname  Burgh;  but  this  is ■ 
help  to  the  Crispins.  I  am,  howerer,  indbtlli 
iliink  that  Ouilbert  Crispin  was  H«tla*U  li 
Uurgh,  or  Comtes-Ville,  rather  than  that  tarn  d 
them  was  a  second  or  third  husband.  Than  IM 
about  this  time  a  family  De  Ville,  which  wu^  h 
uiother  alias  of  the  Oe  Buigha.  These  an  poM. 
chat  any  of  your  learned  readers  would  tamtWL 
infinite  obligation  in  clearing  up  or  attamvliqiti 
dear  up.  "  N.  &  Q."  will  liTa  to  be  thaidciiK 
Among  others,  every  description  of  histoBH  m 
the  labour  of  which  he  wilt  hereafter  ba 
by  the  results  of  the  ^patient  inTeatigi__  ^ 
many  heads  being  deposited  in  its  page&       '!> 

PHOTooEUPino  Panrmro  (4*  8.  ix.  8Ml}— Ih 
[leliotype  Company,  S19,  Ragant  StMt^  '" 
furnish  your  correspondent  with  irttatarar  ha  L  . 
wsnt  in  that  branch  of  art.  0. 1 

"  Thk  Man  op  EisoLiira,"  bto,  (4*  B.  w.  - 
IL  L.'s  quotation  is  from  Shelley'a  Qmm  JU 


Quondam  citbarn  ta 


Wears  vi 


it  Apollo. 

•■  Sweet  an  the  uses  of  adversitv  ; 
Which,  likf  the  toad,  ugly  and  venomous, 
Kioua  jewel  in  his  head." 

AiYoa  Like  It,  Act  II.  Sc.  1. 
JOUK  PiCEFOBD,  M.A. 

Hungste  Street,  Pickmlng. 

Hubert  be  Buboh,  temp.  John  (4"  S.  ix.  310, 
386.) — There  appears  to  he  considerable  doubt  as 
to  who  Ilerlewin  or  Herlevic,  and  now,  according 
totheinterestingcommumcation  of  Mr.deBebos, 
Hnrlowe,  really  was.  The  Crwpjns  claim  Arietta 
or  Harlott  as  well  as  tbe  Burghs  or  Burgrs. 
Ancient  MSS.  say  Ilellowin  do  Comtesville,  others 
Ouilbert  de  Crispin  (son  nf  Geoffrey,  Count  of  Eu 
and  Brionne,  brother  of  Rich.  II.,  Duke  of  Nor- 
mandy), married  Arlette  or  "  llnrlotta,  daughter 
of  Rowland  Fulbert  de  Croye."  Hut  Handle 
Holmes,  a  Cheshire  antiquary  of  considerable  au- 
thority, marries  this  Ilellowin  d<!  Comteaville 


Cryniyn  certainly  did,  by  some  accounts,  marry 
Havts,  Countess  of  Bretagne,  1067,  and  so  did 
Hoel,  Count  of  Nantes,  but  the  Utter  seems  to 
have  been  second  husband.    Amid  this  coofunon. 


NOTEB  OS  BOOKS,  ETC 


the  Author,  i 

Lmgmge.     WiOt  on  iiURMiuttM  m  tt«  Ar^ 

Lanfange.     ParU  III.  IV.  and  V.    (TlH— Q 

If  it  was  with  eonildnabla  sattahBlloii  w«  IH 

ufidcr   the  noCios   of  onr  nadan  Uw  flnC  ul  % 

parts  of  this  new  ediCioD  of  If  r.  Wadgwood^B  2M 

i>f  KratVith  Ktunohm.it  it  esrUdaly  with  ■•  ka 

.....  ^..11  (1...:..  *(f«.,^«.  •.h  41.*   J»...  -   *««L.| 


ItdrtrbO 


There  is  an  amosinK  stoiy  of 

been  seen  batodyadietlonaryfora'  .  ,  

wax  asked  what  sbe  thooght  of  It,  when,  wUhjpirtI 

plicity,  she  aiuwersd  that  aha  tboBght  It  woafl  k' 

niM  rtadinf!  if  it  were  divided  into  "" **"  " 

wood's  DictioHary  doe*  Dot  reqnln 

ment  to  niako  it  verv  niea  reading. 

may,  we  are  snre  to  light " 

initTDclB  and  interonts  — 

see  how  an  old  familia 

ginal  root, 

"  Doth  saRfer  a  esrd-changa 
Into  somathing  new  and  itnUl|a*'t 

not  but  sometimes  wa  miM  a  darlTBtleo,  wWi^  V* 

repted,  might  hava  b«an  nollead,  aad  Uw  |NMk  i 
rejectioD  stated.  For  InatsiiMk  Mr.  WadsMli  t 
tf-hiimdag  rrom  Doahdea  fa MU»t  bat  ttdsMl 


■nrsoah  it^ 

.   „.    Op«  lt«W 

npoo  soma  eljmola0<ll 

and  lometinMa  nrpiMiH 

plthet,  In  goliig  baeh  IsM 


K.  April  20/72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


331 


e,  the  form  to  be  accounted  for  is  not  Jyhit  but 
as  in  Whitsuntide^  Whitsun  Week;  and  wc 
A  oripin  will  be  found  in  the  (ierman  Pjingsten. 
w  defects  like  this  only  serve  to  contrast  with 
)Ietene8s  and  utility  of  the  book  generally— a 
which  our  notice  would  do  scant  justice  if  it 
all  reference  to  ilie  interestinjj:  and  ingenious 
u  the  Formation  of  Language  with  which  it  is 

fhology  of  S/iakespeare  criticallif  Examined,  Ex- 
\  and  Illustrated,  By  James  FIdmund  Ilar- 
.L.S.,  FJ5.S.,  &c.    (Van  Voorst.) 

nfess  to  a  liking  for  a  book  written  by  a  man 
obby,  and  to  a  sympathy  with  its  writer,  when 

bis  hobby  well  in  hand,  and  does  not  urge  him 
regions  of  boredom.  The  work  before  us  belongs 
ass.  The  author,  who  is  a  P^ellow  of  the  Lin- 
d  Zoological  Societies  and  the  British  Ornitho- 
'nion,  appears  to  have  relieved  his  study  of  the 
)f  Natural  History  which  he  specially  affects 
ady  of  Shakespeare.  The  result  has  been  a  very 
3ne.  He  soon  found  that,  in  the  wide  range  of 
^e  which  characterises  Shakespeare,  he  had  not 
I  to  inquire  "  what  was  Pythatjoras'  opinion  of 
I,"  or,  in  other  words,  that  Ornithology  had  been 
3e  subjects  of  the  poet's  inquiries  and  specula- 
lie  result  was,  that  Mr.  Harting  communicated 
5f  papers  on  this  point  to  Tke  Zoologist,  the 
iges  which  they  there  occupied  being  expanded 
mdsomely  printed  book  before  us  into  upwards 

hundred,  in  which  three  hundred  pages  the 
rill  certainly  find  "  much  curious  information'* 
he  writer  modestly  hopes  is  there  preserved. 
'.  Harting,  after  what  he  says  about  gulLs  and 

"  be  surprised  to  hear  "  that  Shakespeare  never 

"  S«*ameils  "  ?  The  word  in  the  original,  that  is, 
'irst  Folio,  is  Scamels — a  word  which  will  as- 
»e  found  some  day  before  the  Early  English  Text 
lave  finished  their  useful  publications. 

\  RECKIVKI). —  The  Herald  and  Genealogist^  edited 
Gough  Nictols,  F.S.A.  Part  XL.  (Nichols) 
much  information  respecting  the  Bohuns  and 
ns,  contains  a  short  but  interesting  paper  by  Mr. 
jhirley  on  "The  Badges  of  the  Great  Nobility." — 
%ta  Amiqua  Anglicana  ;  the  Old  Book  Collectors 
njr.  Part  VHI.  (Reeves  &  Turner),  contains: 
the  Water  Poet";  "Navy  of  Land  Ships  and 
«nt";  "A  Counter-blast  to  Tobacco";  "Execu- 
le  Gunpowder  Plot  Traitors";  and  **  The  Penni- 
liamt'nt  of  Threadbare  Poets." — Notes  on  the 
3  and  Religious  Mysteries  of  Antiquity^  the 
and  Secret  Schtwls  of  the  Middle  Ages,  Modern 
ianism,  and  the  various  Rites  and  Degrees  of  Free 
^ed  MasonSy  by  John  Yarker,  Jun.  (/logg.) 
g  one  of  the  initiated,  we  must  necessarily  con- 
lelves  with  directing  the  attention  of  those  who 
lis  discourse  on  ancient  and  modern  mysteries. — 
Panzas  Proverbs,  and  others  which  <KCur  in  Don 
;  with  a  Literal  Englixh  Translation,  Notes,  and 
tiim  by  IJlick  Ralph  Burke.  (Pickering.)  This 
,ly  printed  little  book  may  well  be  commended  to 
o  would  desire  to  study  the  genius  of  the  Spanish 
3  in  its  greatest  purity,  and  the  Spanish  people 
characteristic  simplicity  and  shrewdness,  which 
may  be  best  done  by  the  study  of  their  Proverbs. 

irKRAY  announces,  among  other  forthcoming  pub- 
,  **The  Speaker's  Commentarj',"  Vol.  H. :  Joshua, 
E.  Espin,  B.D. ;  Judges,  Ruth,  Samuel,  Bishop 
and  WpUs  ;  L  Kings,  Rev.  George  Rawlinson ; 
:  II.  Kings,  Chronicles,  Ezra,  Nehemiah,  Esther, 


Rev.  (jeorge  Rawlinson,  M.A. ;  "Pekin,  Jeddo,  and  San 
Francisco,"  the  third  and  concluding  volume  of  the 
Journal  of  a  Voyage  Round  the  World,  by  the  Marquis  de 
Beauvoir,  translated  from  the  French  by  Agnes  and  Helen 
Stephenson  ;  Mr.  Gilbert  Scott's  "  Lectures  on  the  Rise 
and  Development  of  Mediaeval  Architecture " ;  "A His- 
tory of  the  Church  of  France,"  from  the  Concordat  of 
Bologna,  1516;  to  the  Revolution,  with  an  Introdoction, 
bv  W.  Henley  Jervis,  M.A. ;  "  Notes  of  Thought  and 
(Jonversation,"  by  the  late  Charles  Buxton,  M.P. ;  "  Teg- 
ner's  Frithiofs  J^ga,"  translated  from  the  Swedish,  by 
Captain  Spalding ;  and  a  new  edition  of  "A  Journey  to 
the  Source  of  the  River  Ox  us,  by  the  Indus,  Kabul,  and 
Badakhshan,"  by  the  late  Captain  John  Wood  (Indian 
Navy),  edited  by  his  Son. 

Messrs.  Griffin  &  Co.  announce  a  cheap  and  popular 
edition  of  Dr.  Rogers's  "  Century  of  Scottish  Life,"  which 
first  appeared  in  June  last. 

Dbatii  of  Mr.  Black,  F.S. A.— Archaeological  litera- 
ture has  just  sustained  a  great  loss  in  the  death  of  6ne  of 
its  most  zealous  and  accomplished  followers,  Mr.  William 
Henry  Black,  who  died  on  Friday  the  12th  instant,  in  the 
74th  year  of  his  age.  Mr.  Black's  labours  in  the  field  of 
archaeology  are  too  well-known  to  call  for  enumeration* 
He  had  been  engaged  for  some  time  in  preparing  for 
publication,  in  the  Series  of  Chronicles  andMemoriala 
of  Great  Britain  published  ondcr  the  direction  of  the 
Master  of  the  Rolls,  the  "  Iter  Britanniamm :  a  Portion 
of  the  Antonine  Itinerary  of  the  Roman  Empire  relating 
to  (ireat  BriUin."  It  is  to  be  hoped  that  Mr.  Black's 
labours  upon  this  important  subject  will  not  be  lost. 


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The  r.O!ti>ON  Qazkttb,  No.  8,107, 1896. 
Wanted  by  Surgeon- Jfffjor  Flemi$tg,  113,  Marine  Parade.  Brighton. 

^''/f.  9'  Alkx.  Rkid,  a  SootUth  Corcnantcr.  written  by  hinuelf.   3rd 
Edition.    Manchester:  Prentice,  1830.  "»™«»«.    «u 

Wanted  by  Mr.  C.  W.  SutUm,  63,  Egerton  Street,  nulme. 


finiitti  in  CorreiTpontrenU. 

In  our  notice  last  week  of  Mr,  Metcnlfe^s  Curious  Ge- 
nealogical Table,  showing  the  Royal  Descents  of  nua^ 
Yorkshire  Families,  the  ancient  seat  of  the  Metcalfet  in 
Wensleydale,  is  by  a  misprint  spoken  of  as  **  Tappa  ** 
Hall,    It  should  of  course  he  Nappa  Hall, 

M.  D. — "  Cater-cousins  "  are  friends  so  famUiar  that 
they  eat  together.     "  They  are  not  now  cater-cooaina : 

they  are  at  dissension  or  debate  one  with  another," 

Terence  in  English,  1614. 

J.  A.  C.  (East  Dereham.) — Advice  to  a  Son,  in  two 
parts,  Oxford,  1656-8,  §*c.,  is  by  Francis  Osborne,  who 
died  in  1G59. 

Sarah  Ck)OPER  (Wolverhampton.)— For  <A«  origin  of 
kissing  under  the  mistletoe,  constat  "  N.  &  Q."  !■*  S.  v.  13» 
208  ;  viii.  621  ;  2»«»  S.  iv.  506  ;  vi.  628. For  the  cos- 
tume of  mourning,  2»«»  S.  ix.  826 ;  xi.  848,  899,  468  ;  8"» 
S.  viii.  506 ;  ix.  87,  144,  229, 804, 820 ;  xii.  867. 

John  Pike  (Old  Burlington  Street).— ^»  accomU  of 

the    magnificent   structure   of  Canons  will   be    found  m 

"  N.  <b  Q."  4tt>  S.  V.  176,  247 ;  and  of  James  Br^kfes,  the 

first  Duke  of  Chandoi,  in  CoUiniB  Peerage,  by  Brydgee  ;, 


332 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


li^8.TX.  Artm.n.'n 


SyHa't  PXrkuin,  ii.  43 ;  and  G«nt.   Mag.  /or  Mank, 

]aG&,  p.  see. 

J.  ToiraKB  (DmiDplon).— SflfBi  ocmnirf  <•/  Iht  early 
daft  nf  Marie  Tagliaii.  ttt  /u«.Bf  AiHrer,  i.  flircj.  in 
tie  Noarella  Biottniihie  Ucnirale,  xlir.  TT.i;  Kncjcln- 
p^ic  des  Gi^ns  ilu  Monde,  xxi.  G.i4  ;  owf  'Die  StsKKt  ti}' 
Alfred  Bunn,  ii.  90-93,  3R3.  Ac.  DuriKg  Ike  lale  FfaiKO- 
PnanoH  latr  Madame  Ta^tiani  inl  mtteh  i\f  hfr proptrtjf, 
and  h  now  in  EnghmH  plnM  prinale  letinui  in  damring, 
a/lrr  a  date  Titiramnt  in  Jematie  life  of  more  ihm  a 
qwvler  of  a  centiirp. 

RoBHRt  Stuart.—  Tkal  rerg  ™rioB<  pieer  nfmrkiiian- 
9hip  of  the  $irleeHtk  Frtdury,  the  "  Durnl'y  Jeicet^"  trAicA 
formed  one  nfUie  StifH  pemt  of  the  aillection  at  Straa- 
berry  HUl.  mi  purckair,!  hg  3ir.  Farrer,  and  lold  to  Her 
Mig-tf  /<T  ttbomt  200  guineai. 

A  C(H-KSKT.— ?;(;  miitetiaU  nfihe  tkree  Cllg  gain  Ken 
sold  in  Ue«  la  a  Mr.  BUigdea,  car/jentrr.  GiltmiH  Strtet, 
Howielf,  Aldnatt  for  ITT/.  lOi.  i  Crippbynlr,  912/.;  and 
LmdfUte,  148'/. 

D.  D.  D.— OmniA  the  Tahia  of  Clawiral  md  Scrip- 
ture Jumper  NtimeSf  and  Modem  Geograpftiral  iV'fiBVf. 
ullk  Heir  Prannneiallon,  bg  X.  Pxriir.  in  Ih,  S^j^iment 
to  OgHnie'i  Imperial  DiL'tinnary,  GIntgaK,  1S5S. 

Eowiii  S1.OPKR  (ItmiB9ter). — Carram,  olhtnciit  tprh 
Ctmmue,  Ornemade.  Ctmmwie,  Cemm»lh.  Chenmm,  and 
Chemmimlk,  oj  the  Saxon  Cbrnniek', //cHry  if  lUnliag- 
don,  owf  Simon  of  Dnrkaai,  it  Otarmotlk,  ra.  linnet.  Set 
Ike  Anglo-Saxon  Cbronicif,  edited  by  Beaj.  Thorpe,  edit. 
laGl.  and  Hnichint't  UoTMtahirc,  i.  53J. 

"  IIahhowo  ATK."— /»  no*  Oiit  tuhjeel  almoil  exhauiled  ? 
roHr  reply  thovid  be  made  at  brief  at  poiiitle. 

ASTBRISK.— H'erfo  not  remember  ta  hate  receiced  any 

EDROXO.—  foii  hate  keen  aatu-ipated. 

To  all  cnmrniinirnlions  should  be  aRlxed  tho  name  and 
addreiiK  of  the  srnder,  not  necc»uirily  Tor  publicniiun,  but 

Wo  W  '«"■«.  lo  "'"'e  "^t  "■!  '''dine  t"  'etum  com- 
to  thia  rule  we  can  urnke  au  exceplion. 

All  nmimunicalinns  "liouM  be  nd<lrewed  to  the  Editor 
at  the  Office,  ii,  Wellinfftoii  Street,  W.C. 


Commencement  of  a  New  Series. 
THE    CAMDEN    SOCIETY: 

TOR  THE   rrrBtTCATION   OF  BABLT  HIBTOttlCAt  AHD 

LITER  ART  REMAINS. 

Annaal  Sahieriplion,  One  Fonnd. 


itiU  chlcrllr  or  lAltcn 


.  I.eTTEBS    * 


i3v 


:i.  TUB  OIJ>  CHEQITB  BOOK  i  nr.  Dm*  of  ''j™™^" 
minenU^flf  biaprl  Konl,  St.'juii»->  ] 

FIThrKESBM.NlCnOIJ 

Sni,  ud  ID  wbosi  iwt>IlE*tigai  fu'PrDt|ie«uiit  dkt  be  tdi 


WHARPEB'S    CATALOGUE   of   BOOH 


KR.  HOWARD,  Snismn-Dentiet,  63,  Fhat  8ta4 
hH  bilndBvd  a  taartlf  dw  dnrriMleB  ef  ASntBU 
TlI.aiRl  w1UkntiiiitBiiirVkin.iiiUntiu<*.  Tkwai^^E 


PARTBISGE    AVD    COOFO, 

UANL'FACrURINO  STATIONBBB, 
19S,  t'iMt  SLre«t  (Comer  oTClianoar  Lm}. 
CAKRIAOE  PAID  TO 


•■S.  IX  Aran.  87,-72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


333 


\ATCRDiT,  APRIL  a: 


CONTJ;XTS,— S".  2-iO. 


■  ■lid  '"The  Inhnt  Horoulfv" 

MM-siii  — LonJiwity.SM  — -.-       

K>n>1Mr<1iRval  Scull  — JuillrUI"  Honour":  lj>nlAnstni. 
ttar — "  Kleia>  in  ■  Connhy  Churrjirurd  "  —  Sllikenunn 
"AIl'i  Well  thmt  Eiidi  Well,"  AcC  II.  Rc3  — Stock  Ei 
"Bubbles" —  "  I'ortunp":  Chiucei 


colouring,  that  "it  looked  m  if  it  had  been  boiled 
in  brandy."  We  all  know  ttiat  it  was  painted 
tor  the  Empreu  of  Itiusia,  and  that  it  is  thus  loat 
[0  tliis  country.  RejDolda,  when  he  received  Uw 
'saioD,  WHS  puizled  u  to  the  choice  of  sub- 
Hia   first   idea   was   Queen    Elisabeth   ftt 


i« 


■e  —  MfrnMidB  — Xli 


\  yaat  Pi— '"Hie  Lirua 


F.  Ertwanl  firoya  —  Htlitcd'i 


SIS!?"! 


A  Trtcle  loni;  e«t»blnh —     -  -    -    -  - 

—  TictotJo™nh«  Dutch  CO  June  3,  ie«  —  White  Cliff 

[LBt?|  Crou  —  Nuw  Zmimudor  and  London  Bridge,  SIO. 

BBPI.IRS:  — BaUIIior  Evi^ham,  31S  — "God'a  Mtlla  icrliid 


pber, -■««-'■  Fib,  g»B —     .     -. 

Cromwell,  Ph,  D.  —  Si)«lind-wai  —  JlauthiM-  —  Buriils 
Gaideni  —  Bildnrsbr*  -  "  CeXio  "  r.  "  Kellio  "  —  Lui 
BenHl'iNHlitintRl-BtirmMdCrfiiHKit- WatberLr 
—  "  Derendo  "  -  Lealenbip  of  the  House  or  Lorda  —  E 
mund  Keio  —  Bjnl  sod  PelU  -  Tin  Bog  Fwnilj,  S17 


Notea  on  Bocki.  &i 


SIB  JOSHDA  RGTK0LD3  AND   -THE    ISTKST 
HERCULES." 

At  the  sale  of  the  fine  library  of  Oeoig*  Smith, 
Ibq.,  "b;  Sotheby  ft  Co.,  July  1867,  oocun  (lot 
6689):  — 
•'  RobiDi 


To  tM«  lot,  which  feti^hed  46«.,  the  following; 
note  ia  appended  bj  the  auctioDeers :  — 

■■  Tbia  «u  ib«  aathoi'e  own  copy,  and  contaioi  atnj 
MS.  additions,  cnttingi,  Aa.  Tber*  in  also  uiMitcd  an 
original  dniiring  by  Uortimer,  in  pen  and  ink.  of  Hn. 
STeritt  and  bcr  son— tbe  gigantic  inflint  of  Enlield ; 
alao  tba  rare  ungraFinf;  fiom  it,  witb  the  urigiaal  adrer- 
tiMnient  and  exhibition  billa.  Sir  Joabui  Kajnotda  ia 
aappoaed  to  ha*e  taken  bia  idea  of  the  >  Inraat  Utn:alei ' 

Ami  thli  child." 

Korthcote,  in  hia  Life  of  Sir  Jothwa  Reynoldt 
{ii.  31G),  informa  us  that,  for  the  attitude  and 
czpreseion  of  the  Bootbsayer  Tiresias,  the  artist 
waa  indebted  to  a  reminiacence  of  his  deceasMi 
fiiend  Dr.  Johoaon ;  and  adds  that  the  picture,  which 
ma  painted  in  1786,  ff  aa,  "  in  respect  to  beauty, 
acdonr,  and  efiect,  equal  to  any  picture  known  in 
the  worid."  Barry  wrote  that  *'  notbLot^  can  ex- 
caadthabriJliancTof  light,  the  force,  and  vij^ro us 


Per'  I  Tilbury  FDit;  but  this  was  abandoned  for  a  repre- 
■tni.  I  ^ntatioQ  of  the  "Infant  Hercules  Btrangling  tba 
Serpents,"  by  which  the  artist  meant  to  sjmboliM 
che  conquest  obtained  by  hia  royal  patroness  OTer 
the  ignorance  and-baxbansm  of  her  infant  empire. 
But  hia  own  ditScuLtiee  were  not  orer  when  his 
subject  waa  decided  upon.  Crabbe,  the  poet,  in 
the  early  flush  of  the  audden  popularity  of  Tki 
ViUage,  frequently  passed  his  mornings  in  the 
studio  of  Sir  Joshua,  then  engaged  upon  thu 
picture,  who  informed  hia  visitor  that  what  ha 
WW  was  the  fourth  painting  on  the  same  canvas 
(Life  of  Crabbf,  p.  122.  note)  ;  but  even  that  wa» 
destined  to  sustain  eclipse^  for,  on  its  final  de- 
parture for  Husais,  the  painter  said  to  a  Mend 
that "  there  were  ten  pictures  under  it,  some  better, 
some  worse  "  (Northcote,  ii  219^,  For  it  he  re- 
ceived 1500  guineas,  accompanied  by  an  auto- 
graph letter,  and  the  portrait  of  the  empress  ia  a 
gold  box  mounted  with  diamonds. 

This  grand  picture,  of  which  we  have  engrav- 
ings by  Hodges  and  Walker,  must  not  be  c(tt- 
founded  with  the  smaller  one  of  the  same  subject, 
but  with  the  subsidiary  group  omitted,  purchasad 
b;  Earl  Fitiwilliam  at  the  price  of  IGO  guioeai. 

It  was  this  which  was,  in  fitct,  the  study  for 
the  larger  picture  which  was  exhibited  in  tlta 
rooms  of  the  British  Institution  in  1813,  on  which 
occauon  si>me  hundred  and  thirty  out  of  the  tbiae 
thousand  or  so  pictures  produced  by  Sir  Joshuft 
were  displayed  in  evidence  of  his  genius  and  the 
powers  of  the  English  school.  This  event  was 
celebrated  by  Martin  Archer  Shee,  B.A..,  in  bis 

rtm  The  CommemoratiiM  of  £ej/nolda  (London, 
Murray,  1814^,  where  wiU  be  found  a  glowing 
description  of  this  brilliant  study ; — 
"  The  yoanf!  Alcidea  next  with  sw«  behold, 
A  demi-dclty  reaoimed  a(  old  ; 
His  mighty  frame  the  futare  giant  prove*. 
The  god,  tremendoaa  in  the  cradle  mores ; 
powers  of  strength  appear, 


i  aadE 


I  mrm  and  glowing  tone  of 


ng  love  Tcsorta, 
And  preludes  to  his  labours—in  his  sports. 
While  oVr  hia  couch  terrific  serpents  rear 
Their  epcckkd  crests,  and  (or  Ifaeit  prey  prep;ire, 
Sublime  ia  gelf-<vlkctsd  might  he  glows, 
And  darlJ  an  n'o  indi^mant  on  his  foes  : 
His  lips  with  energy  divine  oompreased. 
His  chin  half  baried  in  bis  jwelling  chest. 
With  what  dread  forre.  undaunted  as  he  Ues, 
The  vigorous  infant  Niies  on  his  priie : 
iteneath  hk  trrnsp,  tiicir  writhing  fold^  unlwiue. 
Their  cydialls  bnrsiin;;  from  their  sotkels  shine ; 
t'uul  vitiMUTB  from  tbeic  gasiOD);  jaws  expire. 
And  Samc4  dart  hiSDing  liom  their  toDijucs  o^  Hn'  " 
pagaSS. 


NOTES  AND  QTTEEIES. 


[IttB.B.Anm.lT.'n 


The  ptuntor-poet  adda  in  a  note  that — 

«  regretted  that  this  irork.  wbiah  !■ 

id  moot  aplcndid  produo" '  "" 

.  ._ , not  renuuned  among  na, 

of  hi*  taate,  and  >d  onuusent  of  hii  coantry." 

Here  the  writei  is,  of  course,  speaking  of  the 
laryer  picture ;  of  the  imalhr,  and  the  most  fami' 
liar  to  us,  there  ate  meiiotint  eagraTings,  I 
think  by  each  of  the  engraTets  above  mentioned; 
a  reproductdon  of  one  of  which  has  been  recently 


emblemaof  J.  Q.  ZiacgK&\xs  (Emblematum  Et/uco- 

PoUticonim    Caituria,   Heidelbei^ie,   1064,   4to), 

in  which,   to  illuatrate  the  epigraph — "  In  cunis 

jam  Jove  dignua  " — a  lobuat  infant,  in  a  wooden 

cradle,  is  strang-liug  a  couple  of  not  very  formid- 

able-lookingp  enakes.    Beneath  is  the  quBtraiu :  — 

<■  Ia  verta  ne  prend  pas  de  t'aage  aa  saissance : 

D'Hercule  en  son  mailtot  le  coarage  indompt^ 

Qui  a  do  eea  deux  mains  ces  serpents  surmoTiUt 

Fait  voir,  qn'en  vd  anfaat  puoist  ia  sa  puisaince." 

In  like  manner  another  emhlematist,  bv  this 
same  figure  of  the  cradled  Herculea,  aymboliies 
the  exerciBe  of  energy  and  courage  in  youth,  lllua- 
trslJng  his  lessons  by  the  examples  of  the  Leun- 
culua  (or  lion-cub),  Cyrus,  and  even  the  intra- 
uterine struggles  of  Jacob.  Here  it  is  worthy  of 
note  that  the  position  of  the  cradle  is  altered,  so 
that  we  see  its  Dock ;  and  that  the  infant,  instead 
of  strangling  the  serpents,  baa  just  torn  one 
through  the  middle;  while  the  other,  preparing 
for  a  spring,  ia  erect  on  its  tail  by  the  side  of  the 
cradle.  (Idea  de  )•»  Principe  I'oUtico-Chrvitiano 
repntentada  en  cien  Empreiai.  Pot  Don  Diego' 
Saavedra  Fajordo,  &c.,  en  Monaco,  4to,  1640.) 

The  mind  of  ICeynolds,  anxious  t^  perform  his 
flattering  commisuon  with  credit  to  himself  and 
British  art,  nas  evidently  bent  ou  symbolism ; 
and  nothing  b  more  likely  that,  in  turning  over 
the  books  or  prints  in  his  coUection,  his  ^js  was 
struck  by  the  typical  value  of  the  subject  of  which 
be  made  choice.  Having  once  seen  sucb  an  en- 
graving BB  the  one  I  have  alluded  to,  it  was  diffi- 
cult materifJly  to  change  the  treatment.  As 
Spence  remarks,  in  hia  Poli/mttis,  "  the  old  artists 
seemed  to  have  showed  a  great  deal  of  fancy  in 
representing  this  story,"  and  there  is  not  much 
left  for  the  modems  to  do.  So  Bume^',  in  one  of 
the  charming  illustrations  to  the  Dictionary  of 
FoUte  Literafurc  (2  vols.,  1804,  12mo),  has  repro- 
Bent«d  the  same  subject  with  much  force  and 
vigour;  but  still  so  as  to  suggest  that  his  fancy 
was  doTninated  by  a  reminiscence  of  the  picture  of 
the  great  British  artist,  or  indeed  of  its  ancient 
prototypes.  Wjlliau  Bates. 

Bimiiighain. 


DR.  SMITH'3  "  DICTIONABT  OF  THE  BIBLS," 
LONDON,  isse. 

I  regret  that  I  have  but  lecentW  become  p(» 
sossed  of  this  admirable  book,  it  is  indwd  t 
treasure,  containing  as  it  does  the  •nm  of  modn 
discovery  and  scholarship.  Ererj  intftUigttut  >taH 
dent  of  the  Bible  ought  to  poaseea  a  copy.  If  Ids 
means  he  slender  he  will  do  well  to  dmj  Wnmit 
other  books,  or  part  with  half  his  booka  if  mea^ 
aary  to  get  this,  which  is  a  library  in  itself 

Some  months  ago  it  was  amiounced  that  a  mw 
edition  was  in  preparation.  The  work  might  be 
much  furthered  if^  those  who  posaeas  the  book 
would  send  in  to  "N.  &  Q."  such  brief  notes  and 
hints  as  occur  to  them.  Aa  it  is  empbatiealh 
"a  dictionary  of  the  Sible  and  not  of  Oiaele^ 
such  notes  would  come  under  the  le^timata  KOpt 
of  "  N,  &  Q."  I  beg  to  send  the  following  notM 
OS  n  first  instalment. 

In  noting  some  of  the  articlea  wanted,  nl 
other  omissions,  I  may  observe  that  it  ia  atatad  h 
the  preface  that  "the  work  might  be  deaoibad 
as  a  dictionary  of  the  Bible  accordmg  U  <l> 
Attthoriaed  Vernon."  This  is  well  earned  oiA 
and  we  have  articles  even  on  English  woidi  UH 
in  a  peculiar  sense,  such  as  "instant,"  "inataatly' 
It  is  obviously  desirable  to  make  the  ia^iimUf 
aa  perfect  in  tnis  respect  as  poesible, 

AmkITB  (iUn-pfan',  Heb.  xi.  34),/)nwMn  or  ^^at 
especially  tbe  Philietiaes.    Thus  the  LXX.  (in  tta  bMli      I 
wbich  follow  Joshua)  render  Fhilistlasi  by  to>i>*» 
"strangers,"  probably  in  refemice  to  the  e^Bsk^M 
meaning  of  tbe  name.    See  article  od  FUUitiDia, 

Arohitiatior,  Isai.lKV.  4,  "eating  iwina'aflsBh  sal  ih 
uiominafioH  and  the  moaae."  The  dog,  which  «■■  iAmI 
in  sacritice  to  Moloch,  Is  probably  here  InlMded.  Ct  IK 
Ixvi.  3,  and  the  orticla  on  "  Idolatry,"  p.  869,  ed.  f.  ' 
ox^onidoL  Exod.  vliL  ISi  Dsnt,  ifl.Ml 
■7,  ie. 


Adah.  Untlcr  this  head  it  i*  said  that  tb*  qaHli* 
vhethentl  manluDd  sprang  fram  one  psdr  or  ftenMiwI 
paira,  will  be  folly  oooi 


__jddered  nndar  tbs  aitida  HM 
-  not  been  done.  The  •troD(  SMatlM 
if  the  unity  ef  the  bnman  laee  ■*■' 

set  forth  in  the  article  on  th<  Conftidon  of  Tonana'  Bn 
Johnn's  PhOologiail  Pnofi  o/  du  Otigimd  OiHi  ^ 
Jttrcnl  Origin  of  the  HMmam  Saet.  London,  IMIi  wt 
LenormHTit'ii  Jlfund  dBwbmt  Audtima  dt  TOrM 
Pari!,  18E9. 

Animals,  Clean  and  UdcIcbd.  Ibera  Is  no  aitiak  M 
this,  whicl^  both  in  its  nhyvivl  aod  flgnnUva  a^sM 
ia  a  curious  and  interesting  snljecL  Tlie  dlaciiiiilka  ■■ 
revealed  and  enjoined  by  God  fima  early  tlnMi  M* 
the  Flood  with  regard  to  lacrifleea,  after  tlia  Hoedatt 
n^i-Brd  to  food,  when  (apparently  (br  tb*  llrA  Vm^  W 
permitted  the  use  of  anitnil  toaS. 

lliHo.    "A  speckled  bird,"  or" hlid  luM 
marL-in,  Jer.  xii.  9.     See  IIt.sHA.    I" 

hawi  or  some  olhcr  bird  of  prey  ii ^  _ 

not  a  beaat  of  nny  kind :  for  Oat  Only  ii  It  ilWIUlT 
termed  aU,  "a  bird,"  but  it  la  adM  that  "te  W 
round  about  are  agaioat  ber." 

llt-iMD  AHD  TDK  Lanh,  8  San.  T.  S,  8.  aVMlUtal 
this  phruse,  nor  is  It  Indoded  In  the  tMfid^Hit  ■(  Iq 


»blid  havlnK  I^mT 

ItMMlStalW* 

ia  Intuidad  hmai' 


4*  S.  IX.  April  27,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


335 


**  They  were  stoichiodccy  or  constellated  images  of  brass, 
«et  ap  in  the  recess  of  the  fort,  called  in  scorn  (as  they 
were  hated  of  David's  soul)  the  blind  and  the  lame.  Yet 
80  surely  entrusted  with  the  keeping  of  the  place  that,  if 
they  did  not  hold  it  out,  the  Jebusites  said  they  should  i 
not  come  into  the  house ;  that  is,  they  would  never  again  | 
commit  the  safety  of  the  fort  to  such  palladiums  as  these." 
(^jyotes  upon  some  Passages  of  Scripture^  London,  1684, 
p.  28.)  See  the  Rabbinical  writers  quoted  by  Gregory 
to  the  same  effect. 

Bow,  Song  of  the,  or  Kesheth,  2  Sam.  i.  18,  i.  e. 
the  lament  of  David  on  the  death  of  Saul  and  Jonathan. 
Gregory's  note  on  this  will  supply  material  for  the  article 
here  wanted. 

Burden  =  Doom.    See  under  Isaiah,  note  p.  881. 

Hen.  The  writer  of  the  article  under  this  head  has 
overlooked  2  Esdras  i.  30. 

Ht^xa.  Ecclus.  xiii.  18  has  been  overlooked  here, 
and  also  in  Dr.  Pierotti's  Palestine^  p.  39. 

Jashak,  Book  of.  A  column  and  a  half  are  wasted 
on  Dr.  Donaldson's  wild  and  eccentric  book,  which  de- 
serves notice  in  any  survey  of  the  Curiosities  of  Literature, 
but  surely  not  even  a  mention  in  this  dictionary. 

Stumbling-blocks = Idols.  Zeph.  i.  3,  and  so  trans- 
lated in  the  margin. 

Talismans.  Under  "  Amulets  "  we  are  referred  to  an 
article  on  ''Talisman,"  which  by  some  oversight  has 
been  omitted.  Gregory  is  of  opinion  that  the  brazen 
serpent  set  up  upon  a  pole  in  the  wilderness  as  a  remedy 
ana  defence  against  the  fier^^  serpents  '*was  the  first 
occasion  [I  say  not  given,  but  taken]  of  all  telesmatical 
practices."  See  his  vei^  curious  remarks  on  the  golden 
emerods  and  mice,  1  Sam.  vi.  5  (Notes  on  Scripture, 
chap.  viii.  p.  33).  See  also  Dr.  Townley's  ''Dissertation 
on  Talismans,"  prefixed  to  his  translation  of  Maimonides, 
London,  1827 ;  and  the  article  in  the  EncycL  Metrvpol, 
on  the  "Occult  Sciences."  The  telesmatic  s^'stem  was 
luHnceopathic,  being  grounded  on  the  force  of  correspon- 
dence, the  secret  sympathy  and  attractive  power  of  like- 
ness. I  have  a  coloured  drawing  of  an  ancient  talisman, 
an  image  (in  brass  apparently)  of  the  conach,  or  murrain 
caterpillar,  dug  up  near  Timoleague,  co.  Cork,  April 
1846.  "  It  is  highly  probable,"  says  Dr.  Townlcy,  "  that 
the  second  commandment  was  directed  not  only  against 
idols  and  images  made  to  be  worshipped,  but  also  against 
all  talismanic  figures,  graven  images,  likenesses  of  things, 
in  heaven  above  or  in  the  earth  beneath,  or  in  the 
waters,"  d:c.  He  agrees  with  the  rabbis  and  Gregory, 
that  "  the  blind  and  the  lame  "  were  talismanic  images. 

The  article  on  the  important  subject  of  the  "Mes- 
siah'' is  very  disappointing;  that  on  "Anoint"  is 
much  more  to  the  purpose.  I  shall  here  briefly 
set  down  what  seem  to  me  the  main  points  to  be 
considered  in  an  article  on  the  subject :  — 

Messiah.  Immediately  after  the  Fall,  and  subse- 
qnentiy  at  various  times  and  under  various  names,  man- 
kind were  promised  a  Saviour  and  Redeemer.  The  chief 
of  all  those  descriptive  names  and  official  titles  is  "  Mes- 
siah," which  in  Greek  has  been  rendered  "  Christ,"  and 
in  our  own  language  "  Anointed."  This  title  predomin- 
«tsd,  and  became  a  personal  name  (or  rather,  the  personal 
name)  for  the  Redeemer  a  considerable  time  before  the 
Incarnation,  and  has  ever  since  been  intimately  united 
with  His  proper  name— that "  name  which  is  above  every 
nuioe  " — received  at  circumcision.  We  have  here  to  in- 
qiiira  into— I.  The  origin  and  historical  use  of  this  title, 
Allowing  when  it  was  first  applied  to  the  promised  Saviour, 
and  wben  it  became  predominant.  II.  The  meaning  and 
'     Ufeanee  of  the  title. 

SdHigi  to  aaj  this  titles  wliich  has  so  long  stood 


alone  and  eclipsed  all  others,  occurs  at  most  but  some 
three  or  four  times  in  the  Old  Testament:  first  in  the 
song  of  Hannah,  1  Sam.  ii.  10 ;  next  in  the  prophecy 
against  Eli's  family  in  the  same  chapter,  ver.  35 ;  then 
in  the  second  psalm,  ver.  2 ;  last  in  Daniel  ix.  25,  26. 

As  to  the  first  two  references,  it  is  to  be  noted  that  the 
Hebrews  were  still  under  the  judges  at  this  period,  and 
had  not  as  yet  had  a  king ;  so  that "  His  Anointed  "  and 
"Mine  Anointed"  cannot  even  typically  refer  to  any 
human  king,  unless  prophetically  (as  some  think)  to 
David  and  Solomon  and  their  successors.  Hengsten- 
berg,  who  seems  to  haye  overlooked  these  two  passages, 
observes  on  the  next,  that  "  two  names  of  the  Messiah 
current  in  the  time  of  Christ — the  name  '  Messiah '  itself, 
and  the  name  '  The  Son  of  (jOd  '—owed  their  origin  to 
this  psalm  in  its  Messianic  meaning.  The  former  is 
applied  to  the  coming  Saviour  only  in  another  passage^ 
Dan.  ix.  25 ;  the  latter  in  this  psalm  alone."  The  way  in 
which  the  name  is  used  both  by  Hannah,  by  the  name- 
less "  man  of  God,"  and  bv  DaWd,  gives  the  impression 
that  it  was  well  known  and  revealed  long  before.  Though 
not  recorded  in  Holy  Writ,  the  name  may  have  been 
revealed  at  an  early  period.  It  is,  however,  in  Daniel 
only  that  we  have  our  Saviour  spoken  of  directly  and 
absolutely  as  "  the  Messiah."  This  wonderful  prophecy, 
which  throws  off  all  ambiguity,  made  this  name  the  dis- 
tinctive title  of  the  coming  Saviour ;  and  the  definiteneas 
and  startling  character  of  the  prophecy  helped  to  make 
the  name  memorable  amongst  the  Jews.  It  was  from 
thence  freely  introduced  into  the  targums  and  para- 
phrases of  Holy  Scripture  used  in  the  synagogues,  and  so 
came  into  general  use  and  acceptance  among  the  people. 

II.  The  meaning  and  significance  of  the  title.-— At  a 
very  early  period  oil  appears  to  have  been  a  divinely 
instituted  symbol  of  the  Holy  Spirit  the  Sanctifier ;  not 
merely  a  type,  but  a  sacramental  sign  and  means  of  con- 
secration, by  it  inanimate  objects  were  made  sacred. 
Thus  Jacob  poured  oil  upon  a  memorial  or  dedication 
stone  at  Bethel,  Gen.  xxviii.  18 ;  and  thus  the  tabemade 
and  its  furniture  were  consecrated.  Moreover  oil  entered 
largely  into  the  ritual  of  offerings  and  sacrifices.  By  it 
prophets,  priests,  and  kings  were  consecrated,  and  were 
thereby  endued  with  gifts  of  the  Holy  Spirit.  We  have  a 
remarkable  instance  of  the  effect  of  this  anointing  in  the 
case  of  Saul,  recorded  in  1  Sam.  x.  6,  9.  Such  persons 
were  called  "the  Messiah  of  Jehovah";  in  other  words, 
"  the  Lord's  Anointed."  In  Psalm  cv.  15,  the  title  seems 
applied  to  all  the  people  of  God,  the  chosen  people,  even 
as  now  they  are  called  •*  Christians."  From  this  early 
and  divine*  institution  many  heathen  nations  have  de- 
rived the  custom  of  using  oil  in  consecration. 

It  would  probably  be  impossible  to  give  the^  whole 
rationale  of  this  sacramental  symbol ;  but  for  an  Eastern, 
to  whom  oil  was  in  so  many  ways  precious,  it  would  have 
much  significance.  The  use  of  it  in  daily  life  for  food, 
for  festive  and  joyful  occasions,  for  light,  for  medicine,  &C., 
would  make  oil  suggestive  of  health  and  strength,  jov, 
light,  healing  and  comfort.  Its  traditional  and  divinely 
appointed  use  as  a  consecrating  element,  especially  in  the 
consecration  of  prophets,  priests,  and  kings,  would  give 
the  additional  associations  of  holiness,  wisdom,  and  power. 
The  oil  spoken  of  in  Holy  Scripture  Lb  always  pure  olive 
oil,  or  the  holy  oil  which  contained  other  mgedients 
besides.  And  it  is  to  be  noted  that  the  olive  was  in  many 
ways  a  sacred  tree,  and  always  associated  with  peace  and 
blessedness,  frnitfulness,  and  prosperity. 

Our  Blessed  Saviour  then  was  so  called  as  being 
emphatically  the  All-Holy,  the  Consecrated  One  of  the 
human  race,  who  received  the  Spirit  not  by  measure, 
but  was  anointed  with  the  oil  of  gladness  above  His  fel- 
lows ;  the  true  Prophet,  Priest,  and  King  of  all  mankind, 
for  whose  sakes  He  sanctified  Himself,  and  for  whom  Ha 


336  NOTES  AND  QUEBIES.  [4t^».iL.  Jkrmufi.'m. 

I 

TCoeiyed  the  gift  of  tlie  H0I7  Spirit ;   the  consecrated  '  Tet  fhller  table  of  the  prophedet  rdatlYtt  to  IIm 
Saviour  and  Ke<leeiner  of  thtf  world.  !  The  numbered  table  might  be  foUowed  1^  oom 

It  was  revealed  to  the  last  of  the  prophets  that  he  '  notes. 

should  8ee  the  Messiah,  and  should  know  him  by  this  Tn  a  work  written  bv  aome  aeventv  dilfeiMit 
token,  viz.  bv  seeinjr  the  Spirit  descending,-  and  rem.iin-  ^  in  a  WOM  wnwen  DV some  Beveniy  mireiw  ^^ 
ing  on  Him  ;  and  he  saw  and  bare  record  (to  use  the  tnbutors,  «nd  of  Tery  different  schools  of  Uioq^ 
words  of  St.  Peter)  "  how  Gotl  anointed  Jesus  of  Naza-  we  must  expect  a  great  vanety  of  treAtaMifc 
Kth  with  the  H0I3'  Gho.st  and  with  |Kiwer,"  Acts  x.  38.  |  It  is  a  great  point,  howeveri  to  hftYe  the  HlUli 
Nothing?  can  be"  more  rtrikinj;  than  our  Lord's  public  '  as  far  as  possible  placed  in  the  handa  of  eonMnW 
announcement  of  Himself  iw  the  Messiah,  at  the  very  ^^^ers.  One  cannot  but  hope  to  see  in  tSe  IMt 
outset  of  His  nnnuitrv.  m  the  svnairntrue  of  Nazareth,  ,  'y*'-.^**''  ^"^  ^~7  «  v  mw^«  «v  "^ -^  ^  «  •* 
nainffthe  memorable  wordswhichHe  had  already  spoken  edition  some  Of  the  subjects  {e.g.  "GaiXtMm^ 
b^  the  mouth  of  the  prophet  Isaiah :  "  The  Spirit  of  Ute    meet  with  more  congenial  treatment 

jLord  i»  upon  m^,  hecau*e  He  httth  anointed  me  to  preach  Some  of  the  illustrations  might  well  be  MMtti 

ihe  Goeptl  to  the  poor,"  Ac,  Is-ai.  Ixi.  1 ;  St.  Luke  iv.  l«.  What  need  for  pictures  of  the  myrile.  OiteU, 
These  words  nfford  the  best  exposition  of  the  name  and  r»o««o«  /x.«t1  «t;m  k/«««  <wo.a11a  a-^  ft  n_  «W 
office  of  the  Anointed.  Thus  hIm  name  was  as  ointment  ^JP^^;  °7'  ™^  ^^^J  »".T'  *%«•"?£! 
poured  forth,  and  the  glad  tidinp*  sprea.!  from  one  to  ^^J^^^  hand,  why  not  give  pictures  of  SUUft^M 
another :  **  We  have  fiiund  the  :^Iu!tsiah ! "  >  of  Galileo,  Bethany,  Bothlehem,  Mount  of  Omik 

We  read  of  our  Lord  bein^  thrice  presented  with  costly     Jordan,  High  Priest  in  his  Robeey  High 


The  twelve  AfMistles  anointed  the  sick  with  oil,  St.  Mark  '  can  Antiquities,  tI.  468.  The  temple  of  MmvMH' 
▼i  18,  and  the  same  rite  was  enjoined  upon  the  presbyters  pad,  called  the  "  Temple  of  the  Seven  SpkNttT 
oftheChurch,St.  JamoHv.u  Thou.«ofchmmoroila^  '  jg  pictured  in  the  article  on  the  tower  ol  fiOd, 
baptism,  confirmation,  and  at  death,  in  after  time-  in  the  J  ,  j       '^.i.  ai.     ^  JmL 

Christian  Church,  behmgs  rather  to  an   Kcclesiastical     ^"^    ^^1  be  compared   Witt  the  towet  0(1 


than  to  a  Bible  tiictionary.     But  we  should  make  sp^-cial  stages,  or  «  Temple  of  the  Nine  Heavem/'  |BMP 

note  of  such  pasttages  as'  2  Cor.  i.  21,  22;  1  Kp.  8t.  John  in  Du  Paix*9  Second  Atdifuanan   Tout,  «M  ip 

ii.  20,  27.  ■  Squier,  p.  109.    We  have  a  curioiM  lelic  d  BlP 

Under  the  first  of  the  two  heads  should  be  given  a  !  g^  p^    the  •'Tower  of  Tongues,"  in  the  QU^m 

brief  (^xpoAition  of  Daniel  ix.  21-24  :  and  nothmtc  could  .  1  ^'^  i.-  1  a     jl»  •  ji-I^u 

be  K-ttenhan  a  summary  of  that  contained  in  Dr.  Pusey's  i  lanp^^e,    which  represents  Aapernm  waOmm 

masterly  Lfcturm.     Hero,  however,  wn  can  oidv  find  symbol  of  a  tOWer. 


room  for  pnmo  of  his  remarks  on  the  eflfect  of  this  pro-  |        With  a  view  to  the  next  edition,  I  BUy 
pheey  in  fixinj;  the  name  and  the  ex|A*cUtion  of  the     that  there  is  not  sufRcient  back  marffia  ia  iHl 


book  to  admit  of  its  being  comfortably 


MesMiah :  — - 

1  The  words  probably  fixed  the  use  of  the^name jMca-  |  j^  the  quotntion  from  EccTus.  xlviiLrat  tbeirf 

aiali  aith.'it  of  the.  loni(-c'xppcte<l  Kc<li;eincr.  In  the  time  of     ^r  av  *•  1  xi       1 '^i     ^^. aL     ■  * 

our  Lonl  the  name  w,w  in  the  mouth  of  all.  Samaritans  '  ?/  *^«  ?,^V''^^«?  Hexekiall,  OCCUXS  the  wmM 

as  well  as  Jews It  was  not  tau^'ht  them  by  our  I  Judas     tor  Josias.                                            I|^  Ifr 

Lon! ;  they  knew  it  alrcndy.     It  is  the  ('hristianity  of  

prophecy,  existing:;  so  far  in  the  minds  of  the  peo}>le,  before  j 

it  was  revealed  in  act.    Although,  moreover,  the  name  '  LONGEVITY. 

Messiah  occurs  abs..lutely  here  only  in  Holy  Scripture-  j       TlMOTIlT  FiTZGBRALD   108.  — I  tend  TOtt  (i^ 

not,  as  It  IS  cvervwhere  else,  *  the  Anointed  of  the  Lord,'  I  -  „       .  a  a  »,.»«««*«   xx^       j.  mtuu  ^im  «^ 

•Thy  AnointwV  Mlis  AnointcV  Ac. ;  but  as  a  proper  I  foUowinprnotice  of  a  centenanani:— 

name,  Mrssiah,  'Anointed*  — they  knew  that   He,  so  '      •The  Old  Mas  ok  tiik  Hudson.— ThomM 

spoken  of,  was  the  .H.-ime  whom  other  Scriptures  taught 

them  to  look  for.    They  kupw  (wm  learn  it  fnmi  their 


^orald,  now  living;  with  his  son  at  RhinecUfl^  in  tht 
liliincheck,  was  tH>m  in  the  county  of  Waterfbvdi 


own  mouths  in  the  rios[»'l)  wlierc  he  was  to  he  Iwrn,  that  ;  in  1764,  and  is  consequently  now  108  T«afBoff  agl. 


viimii  to  this  country  in  1851,  and  has  beso 
twi<>(>.  By  his  first  wife  he  had  five  daaghten;  tvoMt 
married  and  living  in  Ireland,  and  the  other  tilHiM' 
duud.  His  second  wife  is  now  randiag  mith  kar  Mlli 
Kondont,  and  has  kept  house  for  him  Ibr  the  lart  fMK0 
years,  his  wife  being  dead.  She  is  now  lOd  Ttfp  ^ 
'J'he  old  man's  occupation  has  priiid|Mdlj 


He  was  to  he  of  the  wed  «)f  David  ....  tliat  he  was  to 
be  the  Saviour  of  the  world.  The  contemporary  para- 
phrase of  .Jonathan  used  the  name  Me^si.-ih  in  ex(»tainin£: 
twenty-six  passaiO'sof  the  Prophets  of  Him  ;  sevonteen  ()f 
them  si;L;naI  prophecie!»,  and  nine  less  obvious.    His  para- 

{>hrasp  havin;:?  been  in  some  mea-^un'  traditionary,  the 
earned  Jews  before  him  innnt  Imve  so  interpreted  Daniel ;      _ _       _       __ 

for  from   him  alone  could   they  have  had  the  name.  I  and  fishiii>;.    He  has  been  a  man  or~tiHaMi«U 
Onkelos,  a  little  later,  ad^l^j  two  more  from  the  Tenta- 
teuch." — Lecturen  on  Daniel,  Urd  ed.  pp.  183-1. 

Under  "  MesMiah,"  and  under  "  Prophet "  (p.  938),  Dr. 
Smith's  Dictiunary  gives  us  the  "  Development  of  Mes- 
sianic Prophecy."  It  mi^ht  l>e  given,  however,  more 
fullv,  dearly,  and  conveniently  in  a  tabular  form  ;  as  in 

Ilafes's  veiy  useful  table,  w'hich  is  api>ended  to  the  should  be  glad' to  know  bow  buuit  Move  have  MMK. 
volume  of  the  Prophets  in  the  Tract  Society's  e<1ition  of  llie  titles  of  fbnr  others  are  wiwiUoaed  kl  IkeffihgNl 
Henry  and  Scott's  Commentary ,  p.  546.    Homo  gives  n     **  prepared  or  far  advanced  in  "     " 


though  using  tobacco;  never  bat  onoe  eeliad  a 
and  that  on  account  of  a  felon  on  one  of  Ma  fl^jeisi 
once  in  his  life  took  a  dose  of  salts  %  never  has  Ml 
toothache,  though  he  is  now  fhst  lodng 


*  I  have  only  seen  the  first  rolame  of  lUi  snli^^. 


4«  S.  IX.  April  27,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


337 


iog  is  very  iruch  iinp.iirfd,  tliou^li  he  still  retains  bis 
memory.  Ilia  eyesight  is  good,  and  he  can  thread  a 
needle  at  arm's  length  ;  can  .strop  a  razor  and  shave  him- 
self j  can  dress  and  undress.  Three  yeara  ago,  while 
living  in  Kondout,  ho  out  six  cord.s  of  wood  throusfh  the 
year,  and  during  the  past  yi-^jr  h.i.s  rut  up  one  cord  into 
about  fourteen  inches  :  not  tliat  this  is  compulsory.  Lie 
is  also  fond  of  sewing  and  patching,  though  not  required. 
He  has  two  Hons  in  this  country  ;  one  in  Kondout,  and 
the  other  at  Khineclitf.  lla  has  at  present  living  around 
him  twelve  grandchildren, and. 'jevm  great-grandchildren. 
It  is  Bup])o.-H.Hl  that  Ijc  has  some  great -great-grand- 
children, althougli  he  has  Inst  track  of  them. 

•*  Thomas,  his  son  by  his  second  wife,  with  whom  ho 
resides,  when  only  sixteen  stood  ^pons«r  to  his  second 
eldest  step-sister's  secund  child.  The  old  man  has  re- 
ceived bis  breakfast  in  bed  for  the  last  twentj^-one  years, 
and  won't  get  up  until  he  lins  fmiMhed  his  breakfast.  At 
the  time  of  the  Irisli  Kcbellion  in  ITDK  be  was  a  man  of 
thirty-two  years.  He  is  unquestionably  one  of  the  oldest, 
if  not  the  oldest  man  in  Ameriea." — Hudson  (A^.  F.) 
Star. 

In  answer  to  ft  letter  of  inquiry  regarding  this 
man,  I  have  rereived  the  following  reply  from  a 
gentleman  in  that  vicinity,  who  has  been  for 
many  years  president  of  the  Ited  Hook  Bank  :— 

<*  His  name  is  not  Thoma*  but  Timothy  Fitzgerald,  a 
native  of  the  county  of  Waterford,  Ireland.  He  is  a  little 
over  108  years  old,  having  been  thirty  years  old  at  the 
time  of  the  Irish  rebellion.  His  mind  was  good  until 
within  the  la.*<t  two  years ;  since  then  he  has  been  some- 
what chihli:ih.  His  sight  is  pretty  gooil,  enabling  him 
to  thread  a  needle,  &o. ;  has  alway.s  attended  the  Koman 
Catholic  church  until  within  two  years  ;  has  never  been 
a  drinking  man,  but  ha^^  lung  chewed  tobacco,  which 
habit  be  still  indulicfs,''  tkc. 

Aladdik. 


Susan  Vvmi  of  CHTPrr.NiiAM. — In  -'N.  &  Q.'* 
of  Feb.  10  {nutey  p.  110)  I  requested  information 
respecting  the  case  of  this  lady.  I  did  so  on  the 
strenprth  of  the  f«)llowing  paragr.-iph  from  the 
JEveiiing  iStandurd  oi  the  i?nd  of  the  same  month : — 

"Death  of  a  ('kntkn-akiax.— On  Wetlnesday  last 
Susan,  relict  of  William  Purr,  died  at  Chippenham,' at,  it 
is  anppose*!,  the  ripe  age  of  100  years.     It  is  certain  that  ! 
the  old  lady  was  christened  at  Icklingham, Suffolk,  ninety-  ■ 
six  years  ago  last  April,  and  she  remembered  walking  to  ; 
the  church  for  the  ceremony,  being  then^  she  believetU  Jire 
or   nix   years  old.      She    was  m«)ther  of   six   children,  | 
ftmr  of  whom   harl  families.     Her  descendants  number 
nore  than  a  IW  individuals,  eighteen  of  whom  are  of  the 
fifth  generation." — Keening  Standard^  Feb.  2,  U<72. 

A  gentleman  who  has  recently  visited  Chippen- 
ham has  written  to  say  that  when  there  he  made 
every  possible  inquiry,  but  no  such  name  was  known 
there,  not  even  to  the  '^  oldest  inhabitant/'  and 
mk^ee^^n^  that  the  Chippenham  referred  to  may 
be  Chl^enham  in  Cambridgeshire. 

Will  any  correspondent  in  that  neighbourhood  | 
Idndly  ascertain  how  the  case  stands^  or  whether  I 
Mn.  FiUT  ia  herself  a  myth  P 

William  J.  TPuars. 


MR.LAniiBUsn. — Enclosed  is  a  cutting  from  the 
New  York  Semi- Weekly  Times  which  1  have  just 
received :  — 

"  Celebuation  of  a  One  Hundred  and  Seventh 
Birthday.— Capt.  Frederick  Labrbush,  a  veteran  of  the 
Wellington  and  Napoleonic  wars,  was  entertained  on  the 
0th  inst.,  at  the  residence  of  Gen.  J.  Watts  de  Peyster,  in 
Twenty-first  Street,  at  a  breakfast  given  in  honour  of  the 
Captain*s  one  hundred  and  seventh  birthday.  A  lai^ 
party  of  ladies  and  gentlemen  assembled  to  meet  the  old 
gentleman,  who  looks  in  even  better  health  than  three 
years  ago.  Among  the  invited  guests  were  (rcns.  Hooker, 
Barnijrd,  Cullom,  Wainwright,  Shakr,  and  others.  The 
occasiim  was  a  very  pleasant  one,  and  Capt.  Lahrbnsh 
surprised  his  friends  by  his  memory  and  wonderful 
vitality,  which  is  not  impaired  by  his  inveterate  habit  of 
opium-eating." 

The  facts  connected  with  this  case  must  be  cer- 
tainly such  as  can  be  investigated  and  e.stnblished 
one  way  or  the  other.  In  this  connexion,  I  should 
like  to  ask  your  Philadelphia  correspondents  to 
give  us  the  details  of  a  case  of  longevity  as  re- 

r)rted  by  Dr.  Hush  in  his  Essays,  second  edition, 
have  read  it,  but  have  no  note  of  it. 

Wiesbaden. 

[The  supposititious  centenarian  ism  of  Mr.  Labrbush  is 
so  persistently  brought  forward  by  himself  and  bis  sup- 
porters, that  it  is  but  bare  justice  that  it  should  be  as 
persistently  exi^osed.  When  what  was  called  his  105th 
birthday  was  celebrated  in  1^70,  the  absurdit}*^  of  his 
st<»r>'  was  clearly  shown  in  The  Statulard  by  Mr.  Thorns, 
and  on  the  4th  of  this  month  there  appeared' another  long 
letter  from  him  again  showing  how  Lahrbush^s  story 
is  contradictetl  in  every  material  point  by  official  docu- 
ments. The  following  extract  from  it  will,  we  think, 
satisfy  WiKSu.VDKN  that  the  "  facts  of  this  case'*  ha've 
been  **  investigated  and  established  "  not  one  way,  but  the 
other : — 

•*  Now,  let  us  test  by  dates  and  the  Army  Lint  some  of 
the  more  striking  points  in  the  story  of  *  Cflii>tain  *  Labr- 
bush, who,  according  to  the  writer  In  The  Tribune,  *  had 
retired  under  the  burden  of  his  seventy  years  *  *  before 
**  Old  Joe  Hooker  "  and  the  other  generals  nf  the  highest 
distinction  present  at  the  break faAt  had  entered  the  ser- 
vice.* 

•*  Mr.  Labrbush  says,  bat  does  not  produce  the  slightest 
evidence  in  support  of  his  statement,  that  he  was  born  in 
London  on  the  9th  March,  17'U\.  I  have  been  assured  by 
one  who  knew  him  that  he  is  a  German,  as  his  name 
indicates,  nnd  that  he  was  not  l)om  in  London ;  and  I 
think  I  shall  prove  infen-ntially  that  he  was  bom  most 
probably  about  1780,  instead  C)f  1 76(5 — twenty  years  later 
than  he  says.  He  states  he  entered  the  British  army  in 
October,  1789.  He  did  not  enter  it  till  twenty  years 
later,  for  his  ensign's  commission  in  the  60th  bears  date 
10th  November,  1809.  He  has  antedated  his  commission, 
as  he  antedated  his  birth," some  twenty  years.  The  fact 
that  he  did  not  join  the  60th  till  1809  knocks  on  the  head 
all  his  absurd  stories  about  serving  with  the  Duke  of 
York  in  the  Low  Countries  in  1793,  with  Lord  CornwalUa 
in  Ireland  in  1798,  with  Nelson  at  Ck>penhagen  in  1801, 
and  of  his  witnessing  the  interview  between  Napoleon 
and  Alexander  which  led  to  the  peace  of  Tilsit  in  1807. 

**  Untrue  as  is  the  statement  which  Labrbush  has  made 
as  to  eiiterinc  the  service^  it  is  not  more  so  than  what  he 
has  aaid  with  reference  to  his  quitting  it,  according  to 
which,  '  after  a  service  of  |wenty>Dine  vears,  he  sold 
out  hia  captain's  commission  in  the  60th  iRiflea  in  1819. 


KOTES  AND  QUEBtES. 


li/^Sj-n.AHOLKi'n. 


Now  tbese  tbree  Koa  COdUId  no  leu  tfum   three  gmw 


1.  Lihrbush  served  odIjt  nine,  anil  not  tuentr-niiie 
vein.    Another  ertor  of  twenty  years. 
~   "  !.  He  nerer  was  >  captain,  ui(t  never  had  a  captain's 
aiinmisaioa  to  eell. 

"3.  Ho  did  not  «ell  out,  bnt  wu  eashlered.  In  the 
^rny  Lilt  of  1819,  under  the  head  of'  Cashiered.'  will  be 
ibund  the  uome  of '  Livutenant  Ue  Lahrbujuh,  GO  F.' 

"  AnJ  in  connection  with  this  unhappy  incident.  Lahr> 
tuik  haa  fumiahed  evidence  that  bia  statement  that  ho 
wild  born  in  ITdG  is  out  true.  Had  he  been  bom  In  1766 
'he  would  ha™  been  fiflv-two  in  1818,  whereae  in  1846, 
writing  to  the  War  Office  on  the  subject  of  ht>  services, 
lie  pleads  aa  an  excuse  for  the  conduct  which  led  to  his 
remoral  'routhfui  errors.'    'Yontlifui  errors '  at  fifty- 

LoHflmiTT;  Mrs.  Duncomb*  Shafto.  —  The 
following  extract  from  the  Yorhshire  Gazette  of 
Saturdtiy,  March  23, 1872,  records  tlie  denth  of 
a  supra- centenarian  ladj',  wliiUt  in  the-,  obituarj 
"   ''        '  ,   the   Eaem'mi   Standard  of  March  22, 


"  We  have  to  record  the  death  of  Catherine,  widow  of 
Robert  D.  Shafto,  Esq.,  which  event  oecurml  on  the  t9th 
Inst.,  at  Whitworth  Park.  She  was  the  third  daufhler 
of  Sir  John  Eden,  Bart,,  of  Wimllestone,  and  married  in 
1803  R.  D.  Shafto,  Esq.,  by  whom  she  had  five  sans  and 
one  dan)cbter.  Three  of  the  sons  survive  her,  viz.  Robert 
DuDCombe  Shafto.  £sq.,  who  represented  the  northero 
division  of  Durham  in  several  successive  parliaments, 
and  retired  at  the  last  general  election  ;  Thos.  Duncombe 


^Ji 


Shafto,  Ksq.  i   and  the  Rev.  A.  Duncombe  Shalto, 

<if  Branccpctb,  and  rurnl  dean.  AltbouRh  she  had 
arrived  at  the  wonderfully  advanced  afie  nf  105  years, 
beinj;  probably  (he  oldest  Indv  in  Era'and,  she  was  in 
fall  possession  of  all  her  faculties.  Kven  on  the  very 
momini;  of  her  death,  she  conversed  freely  with  her 
medical  attendant.  Dr.  O'Hanlon  of  Spennymoar,  and 
■poke  of  her  decease  as  rapidly  approaching.  She  waa 
^catly  beloved  by  all  who  knew  her  for  ber  excellent 
qualities  and  many  exemplary  vjrtuea." 

John  Pickfoed,  M.A. 

Hungate  Street,  Pickering. 

{There  can  be  no  doubt  as  to  the  fact  of  Mrs.  Dan- 
eombe  .Shaflo's  age.  She  was  the  third  of  twelve  children 
of  Kir  John  Eden,  Baronet,  and  was  born  Peb.  10,  and 
baptized  Feb.  11,  1771,  and  in  1790  she  was  proved  to  be 
nineteen,  when  nominated  bv  the  Lords  of  the  Treasury 
u  one  of  the  livea  io  the  Tontine  of  1789.] 

Crntesasianisii  in  Ti/iVLta. — Joseph  Scaliger 
allef^a  l_Scatiger)nnn,  Geimva,  1C6C,  p.  '338),  that 
in  Naples,  in  liis  time,  it  was  common  for  people 
to  live  tothe  age  of  one  hundred  Rud  twenty  jenrs. 
Mr.  W.  J.  TnoMS  will  be  good  enough  to  make  a 
note  of  this  citation.  D.  Blair. 


foil,  fleur-de-lis,  and  tow,  which  all  partake  of  a  j 
faernldic  character — ia,  I  think,  rather  □ncomnD^ 
Having  however  met  with  two  examples  to^ 
I  have  made  a  note  of  them,  thinking  that— "^ 
siblf  thev  might  be  intoreflting  to  ""^""  "* 
readers  of  "N.&Q." 

Michael  Dormer,  citizen  and  merchant  of  ti» 
don,  afterwards  lord  mayor  of  London,  and  nirf 
uncle  of  the  first  Lord  Dormer,  in  the  17tk  i 
Henry  VIII.  (1528),  bore  on  bia  seal  a  Tiolstl 
heartsease  (  Viola  tricohr)  upon  a  Glermaji  d^ 
shield;  above,  hie  initials  "M.  D."  The  aniMI 
prueent  borne  by  the  Dormer  family  were  nat,I 
conclude,  granted  at  that  pt^riod.  Micbael  Dv- 
mer  was  aherilf  of  London  in  1529,  lord  v 
in  1641,  and  died  in  lG4fi. 

"The  lU.  Hon.  Brigitte  Lady  Maraoy  of  I 
Horkesley,  in  the  county  of  Lasex,  late  wi 
John  Mamcv,  Knt.,  Lord  Mamey,  and  befon 
wife  ot  William  Fyndern,  Esq.,"  uaed  tot 
personal  seal  the  representation  of  a  wiekerh 
filled  with  fiowere.  Atthe  present  day  thispi  _ 
seal  might  pnuibly  be  talipii  as  a  compliment  1 
tbe  memory  of  ber  first  hnsbimd,  Mr,  fyndem. 

The  deed  from  which  this  seal  is  taken  reU 
to  the  manor  of  Oferhall  in  Ks»;x,  and  iadat 
Januaiy  28,  26th  Henry  VUI.  (1535). 

Ev.  Ph.  Ssiuar, 
Lower  Eatington  Park,  Btntford-oi 


Flowkbs  rbpbksbsted  om  Personal  Medi.x- 
ViE  Skalb.— -Tbe  representation  of  flowers  upon 
jwivate  seals  in  meditenil  timea— with  the  excep- 
tion, of  course,  of  the  trefoil,  quartrefoil,  dnque- 


JcDiciiL"HosoirR":  Loud  ANSTRin  „^— 

o  pendant  to  tbe  note  by  J.  M.  (p.  2S3)  I  snljiii 
from  the  original  in  mr  possession,  tbe  tersMOi 
document  endorsed  "Parol!  anent  Solidtn&r* 
and,  so  far  as  I  know,  never  before  printed. 
though  dated  June  8,  1709,  it  bears  th«  4B 
tures  not  ouly  of  the  jndges  then  in  offioe^  -_v^ 
also  of  others  elevated  to  tbe  bench  at  BttbasqM 

{eriods,  who  bad  signed  it  on  their  proootnl 
here  appear  tbe  names  "  W.  Anstnithtir  "  tit 
"  Wn.  Pringle,"  both  mentioned  by  jour  0* 
tributor,  who  has  shown  in  what  cfegree  of  In- 
spect they  were  likely  to  hold  such  a  pini*  *t 
honour ; — 

"  Edinburgh,  The  sight  day  of  Juaa, 
hundred  and  nynv  jeai^ 
Forosmnch  aa  By  ane  Act  of  Sederunt  of  the  11' i 
vember  lG9l},the  Acta  of  Sederunt  uf  the  Lords  off 
of  the  B'"  of  fiovember  1677  and  ■24«'  Dstflm  Mlf 
Soiicilatians  in  Actioni  depending  faiAia  lb* 
were  ordained  to  be  obaerred  in  all  pointy  mA' 
thereby  appoynted  that  each  SosioD  tha  *     ' 
Engiige  themselves  upon  their  honoiir  to  i 

should  not  be  trouMed  by  SoUcitatio      ' " 

lug  bcfor  them  as  Commissioners  fo . 

andVatuationofTeynda;  Tber<;fDrstbaLWIl<fi 
and  Seesion  subscrTVeiog  do*  ongaga  tbeouelTeB  ..  . 
miuionets  foresaid  upon  tlieic  lionour  to  obstr**  II* 
tent*  of  the  said  Acts  agaln.'^t  SolicUatloo*  Id  aS 
Actiona  as  are  depending  befor  theoi  la  Aa  ~ 
tbe  Commission  fiH  Plantatka  of  Kiika  aad 
Teinds." 


4**  S.  IX.  April  27, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEKIES. 


339i 


Mark  the  low  idea  of  the  judicial  character 
implied  by  this  express  exteDsion  of  the  terms  of 
the  special  acts  to  their  lordships'  conduct  as  com- 
missioners of  teinds,  as  if  strict  impartiality  were 
not  the  primary  and  essential  duty  of  all  judges 
whatever.  Norval  Clyns. 

Aberdeen. 

*'  Eleqt  m  A  Country  Churchyard."— What 
is  Gray's  meaning  in  the  line  of  "  The  Epitaph  " 
In  this  celebrated  poem  P  — 

••  Fair  science  frown'd  not  on  his  humble  birth." 

Pelaoius. 

I  have  heard  the  first  line  of  Gray's  JEleffi/  read 
thus:  — 

*•  The  curfew  tolls :  the  knell  of  parting  day !  '* 

This  is  an  effective  version,  though,  I  presume, 
^uite  unauthorised  by  the  poet.  J.  W.  W. 

Shakespeare  :  "  All's  Well  that  Ends 
Well,"  Act  II.  Sc.  3.  —  Johnson  confesses  that 
be  cannot  see  the  import  or  connection  of  the 
lines  — 

**  Great  seas  have  dried. 
When  miracles  hare  by  the  greatest  been  denied." 

I  do  not  know  whether  modem  editors  also 
fpye  it  up,  but  it  seems  to  me  plainly  an  allusion 
to  the  Exodus.  Great  seas  (such  as  the  Ked 
Sea)  have  dried  when  Pharaoh,  the  greatest  in 
the  land,  '*  Pharaoh  that  sat  on  his  throne " 
(Exodus  xii.  29),  denied  the  previous  plagues  to 
nave  been  divinely  caused  miracles.  The  connec- 
tion of  the  passage  is  plain  also  if  read  with  the 
preyious  lines — 

•*  He  that  of  p^reatest  works  is  finisher, 
Oft  does  them  by  the  weakest  minister." 

The  immediate  cause  of  the  drying  of  the  Ked 
Sea  was  Moses  with  his  rod,  evidently  inadequate 
unless  helped  by  the  ^'Finisher  of  greatest  works." 

Pelagius. 

Stock  Exchange  Terms  :  "  Bubbles." — The 

term   "  bubble,"   applied  to  weak  or  dangerous 

speculations,  is  a  good  deal  older  than  the  period 

of  the  South  Sea  exposure.  In  the  Weekly  Comedy y 

Jan.  2-9,  1708,  one  of  the  speculative  characters 

says: — 

"  Mr.  Bite  goes  among  the  thoughtless  crew  at  Young- 
man's  and  the  Smyrna ;  lie  is  tit  to  be  employed  to 
bmbble  the  squires  there.  As  for  Mr.  Tallcy,  he  is  every 
whit  as  good  as  the  DeviFs  broker  was  ;  and  will  draw 
in  the  stockjobbers  purely  at  Jonathan's." 

Bite,  the  name  of  the  sharper,  was  also  a  part 
of  the  slang  of  the  period,  as  the  well-known  play 
lets  us  know,  and  also  Swift's  letters  when,  rather 
late,  he  explains  to  Stella  the  hackneyed  expe- 
dient of  getting  up  a  London  joke. 

Ireland  hardly  required  to  import  it  to  increase 
their  stock  of  humour;  but  under  the  modem 
oame  of ''  a  sell "  the  practice  still  flourishes  quite 
racy  of  the  soil.  E.  C. 


"  Fortune  "  :  Chaucer  and  Shakespeare. — 

"  Trite,  vulgar  and  impotent "  have  been  applied 

as  adjectives  to  certain  lines  on  *'  Fortune "  ia 

Chaucer's  Dethe  ofBlatmche : — 

**  So  tumeth  she  hyr  false  whele 
Aboute,  for  hyt  ys  nothynge  stable, 
Now  by  the  fire,  now  at  table." 

{Boke  o/Duchesse,  Morris,  L  645.^ 

The  last  line  quoted  has  certainly  a  domesticity 
about  it  which  strikes  one  strangely.  I  do  not 
venture,  in  face  of  the  rods  which  Messrs.  Fur- 
NivALL,  Morris,  Skeat,  &c.  have  in  pickle  for 
amateur  Chaucerians,  to  attach  a  definite  meaning, 
to  the  sidd  line.  But  it  reminds  me  of  passages 
wherein  Shakespeare  treats  of  the  much  maligned, 
goddess,  which  may  be  perhaps  worth  recalling  to  ^ 
mind.  The  sex  of  Fortune  gives  Shakespeare 
opportunity  for  unkind  depreciation  of  "  the 
bountiful*  blind  woman."  He  is  fond  of  tuming- 
her  wheel  into  a  mere  spinning-wheel,  and  her- 
self into  a  mere  housewife.  In  As  You  Like  It^ 
I.  ii.  28,  Celia  says — 

"  Let  ns  sit  and  mock  the  good  housewife  Fortune  from-  • 
her  wheel." 

In  Antony  and  Cleopatra,  IV.  xv.  44,  Egypt  cries — 

**  No,  let  me  speak,  and  let  me  rail  so  high, 
That  the  false  hoasewife  Fortune  break  her  wheel.*^ 

To  brand  Fortune  "  strumpet ''  (as  in  Hanilet^ 
Lear,  or  K,  John)  is  not  unusual ;  but  the  house- 
wife with  her  spinning-wheel  I  have  always 
thought  to  be  a  notion  originated  by  Shakespeare. 
Is  it  possible  that  Chaucer  in  the  above  passage 
had  a  domestic  notion  of  the  same  kind  ? 

John  Adbis,  M.A. 

Mermaids. — I  have  just  met  with  the  follow- 
ing circumstantial  account  of  the  capture  of  a 
mermaid  and  a  merman.  They  will  perhaps 
amuse,  if  they  do  not  convince,  your  readers : — 

"The  crew  of  the  Halifax,  Manly,  newly  arrived  at 
London  from  the  East  Indies,  say' that  in  the  islaiifl 
Mauritius  they  ate  of  the  mermaid,  and  that  its  tastje  ia 
not  unlike  veal.  It  is  a  large  fish  of  about  three  or  four 
hundredweight ;  the  head  is  particularly  large,  and  so 
are  all  the  features,  which  differ  but  little  from  those  of  a 
man  or  woman ;  the  male  having  a  beard  four  or  five 
inches  long,  and  the  female  a  short  neck  and  breasts  eatt- 
actly  human.  When  they  are  first  taken,  which  is  oltea 
on  the  grass,  they  cry  and  grieve  with  great  sensibility-. 
It  is  amphibious. 

"  They  write  from  Vigo  in  Spain  that  some  fishermen 
lately  took  on  that  coast  a  sort  of  monster,  or  mermair, 
five  foot  and  a  half  from  its  foot  to  its  head,  which  is 
like  that  of  a  goat.  It  has  a  long  beard  and  mustachoes^ 
a  black  skin  somewhat  hairy,  a  very  long  neck,  short 
arms,  and  hands  longer  and  bigger  than  they  ought  to  be 
in  proportion  to  the  rest  of  the  body ;  long  fingers  like 
those  of  a  man,  with  nails  like  claws ;  very  long  toes, 
joined  like  the  feet  of  a  duck,  and  the  heels  furnished 
with  fins  resembling  the  winged  feet  with  which  painters 
represent  Mercury.  It  has  also  a  fin  at  the  lower  end^  «f 
its  back,  which  is  twelve  inches  long  and  fifteen  or  six- 
teen broad."— Scote  Magaztme,  1789,  i.  186. 

Edwabd  Pxaooce^ 


340 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


L4<^  S.  IZ.  Ann.  f7, 'Tl 


Mnn>  TOUR  Ps. — A  friend  of-  mine  once  in- 
quired in  a  certain  locality  for  the  reeidence  of  a 
Molly  Castick,  and  was  startled  by  the  gruff 
reply,  **  No,  there^s  nobody  about  here  but  what 
has  a  gradelif  name/'  On  tuminff  round,  how- 
ever, to  go  away,  his  informant  called  after  him, 
"  If  you  want  jiolly  Capstick,  I'm  her." 

M.  u, 

"The  Lives  op  the  AumnrT  PmLoaoPHERs." 
In  a  former  volume  of  the  present  series  of 
"  N.  &  Q."  I  gave  a  description  of  a  small  book  in 
my  possession— 7%c  French  AlphalMt,  8fc.j  which 
comes  within  the  category  of  the  note  (4^^  S.  iz. 
371) ;  and  I  now  desire  to  state  that  I  have  also 
in  my  posse.osion  a  small  book,  bound,  in  ^od 
condition,  and  I  should  think  18nio,  the  full  title- 
page  of  which  is  — 

"The  LiveA  nnd  most  remarkable  Mazimn  t>f  the  An- 
tient  Philosoplicr:).  Ix^ndon  :  Printed  for  R.  Darker,  near 
the  ¥>ean'8  Yard,  Westminster,  and  K.  Francklin,  under 
Tom's  Coffee-house,  Co  vent  Garden.  1720.  Price  bound, 
U.  6c/." 

which  aflbrds  no  information  whatever  as  to 
author,  translator,  or  compiler :  but  proceeding  to 
the  preface,  consisting  of  not  quite  two  pages,  I 
read: — 

"  The  manuscript  came  from  the  hands  of  the  Duke  of 

G .    This  nobleman  has  declared  for  certain  that  it 

is  the  late  famous  M.  dc  Fdoelon's,  Archbishop  of  Cam- 
buy." 

And  the  translator,  I  suppose,  styles  it — 

**  A  little  treatise  which  was  useful  in  the  education  of 
a  Great  Prinoo,  and  which  U  thonpht  to  be  one  of  the 
pieces  of  that  illustrious  Prelate," 

thus  placing  it  in  the  categorv  of  doubtful  author- 
ship, out  of  which,  it  is  thought,  the  present 
notice  may  lead  to  its  extrication.* 

The  matter  relating  to  the  philosophers  is  con- 
tained in  282  pages ;  and  tht>n  follows  a  list,  little 
more  than  a  pago,  of  ^'  The  Names  of  the  Philo- 
sophers mentioned  in  this  book,  with  the  Time 
wherein  they  lived,  in  a  Chronological  Order," 
the  names  being  twenty-six  in  number. 

It  may  now  bo  not  inopportune  incidentally  to 
note  that  the  aforesaid  little  book,  under  '^Zeno,'' 
p.  278,  shows  that  the  idea, ''  Sphuora  cujus  cen- 
trum," &c.  ("  N.  &  Q/'  4«»'  S.  ix.  205),  was  common 
to  the  '^  Stoicks"  as  well  ns  Pythngorns  and  Plato ; 
and  on  p.  255,  under  "  Epicurus,    I  read — 

**  Epicunu  held,  that  the  universe  was  boundless  ;  that 
this  fpvat  all  had  neither  middle  nor  end ;  and  that  from 
fluv  imaginary  )M)int,  the  space  you  had  to  traverse  was 
tennite ;  that' there  was  no  end  of  it," 

and  thence  the  spherical  symbol  of  God. 

J.  Brale. 

EoouEN.  —  Bouillet  says,   ^^  Eacuina  en   Lat 
Mod.'' ;  but  it  is  probably  not  generally  known 

[*  This  work  is  by  F^nelon.  The  edition  of  1803, 
2  vols.  12mo,  edited  by  John  Cormack,  contains  a  Life  of 
the  Archbishop  of  Cambray.] 


that  this  locality  took  its  name  £rom  thA  fint  mxii 
of  a  verse  in  Horace  — 

"  .^(piam  memento  rebus  in  aidnii 
Servare  mentem"  — 

which  the  renowned  constable  Anne  do  Moil- 
morency  (temp,  Francis  I.)  caused  to  be  iMOBliid 
over  the  gate  of  his  noble  chateao. 

The  first  Napoleon  converted  it  into  a  honie  of 
education  for  300  youn?  girlS|  daoghten  of  mtm- 
bers  in  the  Legiun  of  Honour,  under  the  mild  and 
able  direction  of  Madame  Campan.         P.  A.  L 


GufrM* 


Old  Bible. — 

*'  The  Holy  Bible  in  Sculpture ;  or  the  Histdijrs 
tioned  in  the'  Old  and  New  Testaments  lively  npiw 
in  Copper  Cutts.    London :  Printed  for  Thomas  Pitt  rt 
the  Angel  in  St.  Paars  Chnrch  Tard,  ISSS." 

Is  the  above  quarto  edition  of  the  Bible  Mef 
I  have  copied  the  title-page  as  above.  It  hehiitgiA 
to  a  relative  of  mine,  and  I  believe  his  aon  ii  li 
possession  of  it  at  present.  Y.  S.  IL 

Rev.  Edward  Grove  was  author  of  7^  Ww 
den  of  Galway,  a  tra^dy,  which  wm  yiudid 
on  the  Dublin  stage  in  Nov.  1831,  nnd  adel  At 
forty-fivo  nights.  The  author  is  said  to  have  latfl 
a  dissenting  clergyman.  Of  what  religioof  Mf 
was  he  a  minister  P  Did  he  reside  in  DiAfl% 
and  what  was  the  date  of  his  death  P 

RInui 

Halsted's  ''Succinct  QsirEALoeilB  orVwC 
ETC. — Only  twenty-five  copies  of  thia  aoMoebodk 
were  printed,  and  there  are  two  in  the  Biitilk 
Museum.  Where  can  I  find  a  list  of  thejMMHh 
sors  of  the  other  copies  P  D.  W. 

Hans  Place  Hoax. — I  have  a  cuioatui  If 
WUliams,  date  Sf^pt.  2,  1812,  of  which  the  tdb- 
ject  is  — '*  Hoax  at  the  Pavilion,  Sloane  StMl» 
August  31,  1812,  precisely  at  half-part  twdft." 
Tribesmen  of  all  sorts  are  aniving:  ladikab 
breeches-makers,  booksellerSy  canuige-bailtab 
druggists'  boys,  &c.  On  the  right  of  the  piiitil 
a  crate  full  of  undignified  crockery.  This  is  (ta^f 
the  prototype  of  the  Bemers  Street  hoax,  Pf^ 
trated  man v  years  afterwards  bj  Theodon  Hsik 
and  General  Higginson.  Can  any  of  year  ndtB 
give  the  history  of  this  hoax  f 

The  Kinem  ov  MouBi 

IIekalbic— Supposing  an  heire«  nurrMi  vi 
her  husband  dies;  she  mairies  a  eeooad  ttMi 
does  her  latter  husband  bear  her  paternal  iM 
on  a  shield  of  pretence  over  hia  arms  aoMj.  ortfi 
her  former  husband's  amu  to  be  ahowii  m  tff 
way  P  D.  CL  ft 

HiGOEN,  OR  Db  Htgov  Fi  KiXiT.— Gas  i^y  cli 
teU  me  the  arms  of  the       lily  dF  Da 

De  Higgeneye,  who  heiu    am  aalf 


4«»»S.  IX.  ApRn.27,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


n4i 


Huntingdon  temp.  Edw.  I.  and  ayiti  f  I  have  rea- 
son to  suppose  that  the  shield  bore  three  cranes' 
beads.  The  name  was  probably  derived  from  Ilig- 
gen  or  Higgeneye  manor,  which,  tamp.  Edw.  I., 
belonged  to  the  abbey  of  Ramsey,  having  been 
inven  by  the  owner  some  time  in  the  reign  of 
Henry  I.  Pholas. 

Bishop  John  Hoopkr  the  martyr  was  "  bom 
in  Somersetshire  in  1496."  Is  the  exact  place 
known  ?  C.  W.  G. 

Bristol. 

Macltse's  Sketches  of  Sir  Walter  Scott. — 
In  A  Memoir  of  Da7iicl  MacKse,  R.A.,  by  W. 
J.  O.  DriscoU  (London :  Longmans,  1871,  8vo, 
pp.  20-22),  it  is  said  that  Maclise  in  1825,  being 
tnen  a  lad,  made  three  sketches  of  Sir  Walter  Scott 
.as  he  stood  in  the  shop  of  Mr.  Bolster,  bookseller, 
at  Cork,  and  that  from  a  carefully  finished  drawing 
made  from  these  sketches  a  lithograph  was  soon 
afterwards  published  in  Dublin,  the  transfers  for 
the  stone  having  been  drawn  by  Maclise  himself. 
The  sale  of  the  print  was  so  considerable  that  the 
young  arti-<t  was  soon  afterwards  able  to  provide 
himself  a  small  atelier.  The  finished  drawing  was 
seen  by  Scott  himself,  and  so  much  approved  by 
kim,  that  he  wrote  his  name  under  it — an  auto- 
graph which,  it  may  be  presumed,  was  transferred 
to  tlie  stone.  Can  any  or  the  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q." 
«upply  an  impression  of  this  lithographic  portrait 
for  the  use  of  the  editor  of  the  forthcoming  illus- 
trated Catalogue  of  the  Scott  Hxhibition  held  in 
Edinburgh,  July  and  August,  1871  ? 

William  Stirling  Maxwell. 

10,  Upper  Grosvenor  Street,  \V, 
Milton  Queries:  — 

**  Southward  through  Eden  went  a  river  large, 
Nor  changM  his  course,  but  through  the  shaggy  hills 
PassM  underneath  ingulf  d ;  for  God  had  thrown 
That  monntain  ai)  his  garden-mould ,  high  rais'd 
Upon  the  rapid  current        .        .        .        ." 

Paradise  Lost,  b.  iv.  1.  222. 

Surely  '' gaiden-mould^^  should  be  garden- 
fHOund,  At  prec^eut  the  word  mound  suggesta  to 
«8  an  isolated,  more  or  less  rounded,  mass  of  earth ; 
but  in  Milton's  time  it  was  applied  to  a  long 
earthen  embankment  enclosing  a  field  (see  Eve- 
lyn^s  Sy2va)y  and  it  is  used  in  this  sense  in  this 
mate  fourth  book  of  Paradise  Lost  (p.  134) :  — 

"  where  delicious  Paradise, 
Now  nearer,  crowns  with  her  enclosure  green, 
As  with  a  rural  mound,  the  champain  head 
Of  a  steep  wilderness.*' 

*^  Gaxdem-mould'^  seems  devoid  of  meaning. 

J.  Dixon. 

NoKL  Family. — Martin  Noel  of  London,  mer- 
<diaiit^  represented  Stafford  (of  which  town  he  is 
fliid  to  hftTe  been  a  native)  in  Parliament  from 
l656tol66B.    Hef      kniflrhted  on  Sept     her  2. 


1G02 ;  and,  dying  before  1007,  was  succeeded  by 
his  son  Martin  of  London,  who  likewise  received 
the  honour  of  knighthood  in  1005.  One  of  these 
Sir  Martins  built  and  endowed  an  almsliouse  at 
Stafford,  prior  to  1003,  and  had  a  "cousin" 
Walter  Noel.  I  shall  be  glad  to  learn  how  these 
gentlemen  were  related  to  the  Noels  of  Ililcote  ? 
Walter  Noel,  the  "  cousin  *'  of  the  founder  of  the 
almshouse,  I  take  to  be  Walter  Noel  of  Ililcote, 
who  was  living  in  1693. 

The  first  Sir  Martin  may  have  been  the  son  of 
Edward  Noel  of  Stafford,  who,  somewhere  about 
the  commencement  of  the  seventeenth  century, 
married  Grace  Noel,  daughter  of  James  Noel  of 
Peshall,  CO.  Stafford ;  which  James  was  a  second 
cousin  of  the  above-named  Walter  Noel  of  Hil- 
cote.  But  how  was  Edward  related  to  liis  wife*8 
family  ? 

la  he  the  *'  Edward  Noel  of  the  Inner  Temple, 
Commissioner  of  the  Excise,' 'who  left  some  daugh- 
ters and  coheiresses,  one  of  whom  (Mary  by  name) 
was  married  to  Bartholomew  TateP  William 
Brydges  of  the  Middle  Temple,  bom  in  IOCS, 
married  Susan,  daughter  of  an  Edward  Noel,  Esq. 

I  mav  mention  that  the  above  James  Noel  had 
a  son  Edward  Noel  of  Peshall,  who,  according  to 
Collins  (who  quotes  Segar's  MS.  Barouagium), 
died  in  1670.     Had  this  Edward  any  issue  ? 

Any  information  about  the  Stafford  and  Peshall 
branches  of  this  family  will  be  acceptable. 

H.  SrBi^EY  Gbazedrook. 
Stourbridge. 

Old  Seals. — On  a  charter  in  my  possession  bear- 
ingdate  29  Edw.III.  (13o0),andcontainingarelea8e 
of  claim  to  lands  from  Elizabeth,  widow  of  Henry 
de  Bromwych  (afterwards  wife  of  Henry  Chattok) 
to  Thomas  Chattok  of  Bromwych  —  witnesses: 
Henry  Battesone,  Will.  Chattok,  Geffry  le  Webbe 
(the  weaver)  and  others — there  is  an  oval  seal  of 
red  wax  appended  with  the  following  arms  upon 
it :  Cheq.  two  Catharine-wheels,  surmounted  hy 
a  charger  containing  a  decapitated  human  head. 
The  circumscription  (if  any)  on  the  left  side  of 
the  seal  is  broken  off;  that  on  the  right  is,  as  far 
as  I  can  decipher  it,  bsint  aivs  hah.... 
or  the  last  legible  letter  may  be  R.  Is  this  the 
seal  of  De  Bromwych,  or  who  P  It  evidently  has 
reference  to  the  martyrdom  of  John  the  Baptist 
by  Herod.  May  it  not  be  the  aeal  of  some  religi- 
ous order  or  house,  and  used  bj  the  ecclesiastic 
who  drew  up  the  charter — perhaps  one  of  the 
witnesses  ? 

Can  any  one  describe  the  seal  of  the  Prior  of 
Cokesford,  Norfolk,  as  I  find  a  Will.  Chattok 
held  a  living  under  that  prior  in  1361,  and  the 
Mor  of  Cokesford  in  1315  was  Wm.  de  Hamp- 
ton or  Hempton,  a  place  about  five  miles  from 
here  ?  A  Kobert  Chattok  held  under  this  prior  in 
1312.  C.  Chattocji:* 

Castle  Bromwich. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[^  8.  IX  Aral,  ST, 'n 


Stafford  Family. — Can  any  of  jour  readers 
throw  any  liRht  on  an  obscure  branch  of  the  ffteal 
house  of  Slnffoid,  living  in  the  psriiihes  of  Slud- 
mere  and  Thwing  in  the  Eiut  Hiding,  during  the 
reigns  of  James  I.,  Charles  I.  and  II.,  and  William 
and  Mury,  and  bearing  the  device  of  the  aivnn, 
from  Thomas  of  Woodetocli,  youngest  sod  of  Ed- 
ward III.,  father  of  Ann  PlantageDet,  Countess  of 
Stafford P 

In  the  north  aisle  of  the  church  at  Thwing  is  a 
Bmall  brass,  with  the  following  inscription :  — 

"  Here  Iveth  tbs  body  of  Rnbert  Staflbid,  E<iq.,  ■  Sn- 
vant  of  v<'l.Drd,  who  departeil  tliis  life  tba  270i  dave  of 
Septembirin  j'jBirBoty'Lord  1671." 
Above  the  inscription  are  the  arms  of  Stafford, 
HUrmounted  by  the  crtist,  "  the  cwan  of  Bucking- 
ham "risiof;  out  of  a  ducal  coronet.  From  tho 
peculiar  phraseologj  of  the  inscription,  and  from 
his  name  occurring  as  one  of  the  justices  of  peace 
for  the  East  Riding  during  the  Commonwealth, 
before  whom  marriages  were  solemnised,  it  may 
be  assumed  that  this  Mr.  Bobert  Stafford  be- 
longed  to  the  Puritan  party,  which  may  also 
account  for  hia  refhsing  to  appear  before  Sir  Wil- 
liam Dugdale  to  prove  his  tight  to  bear  the  illus- 
trious coat  of  arms  which  is  emblazoned  above  his 
tomb. 

The  following  entries,  from  the  parish  registers 
of  Ilution,  Cranswick,  and  Thwing,  bear  out  this 
conjecture ; — 

1671.  Ilatton  Crsnswick :  "  Itnliert  SulTnrd,  Gent.,  of 
ThviDK,  for  non-payment  ot  (ho  duty  for  tfa«  openiq^  of 
the  ground  in  the  Church  for  ■  pruvc  to  buiy  his  brolher 
Georfie  in,  and  far  demelniag  himself  indecently  att  the 
said  bun'All," — the  fee  demanded  being  Si.  id. 

1671.  Thwing :  "Ncnarli  Beckwith,  Charles  Rop«r  and 
M".  Hery  Conyeri,  Widow,  fur  uninK  indecent  gesture! 
In  the  Church  in  time  of  Divine  Service." 

Ut3.  Mary  Cooyers  was  Hstet  to  Robert  Stafford. 

In  the  7th  jeer  of  King  Jnmcs  I.,  Thomas 

Stafford,  who  I  conceive  to  have  been  the  father 

of  this  Robert  Stalford,  had  a  lense  for  twenty-one 

{earn  from  Sir  Timothy  Hutlon  of  the  manor 
ouse  and  divers  cottages,  lands,  and  tenements 
of  Sledmere,  at  the  rent  of  14^. ;  and  in  this  lease 
of  the  manor  house,  &c.,  he  is  described  without 
the  conventional  appellation  of  "gentleman."  He 
therefore,  as  well  as  the  aforementioned  Robert, 
Te^  possibly  belonged  to  the  Puritan  party. 

lam  desrrous  to  ascertain  what  was  the  exact 
connection  of  these  Staft'nnla  with  the  great  Buck- 
iniifham  family,  and  when  they  may  have  first 
migrated  into  the  East  Riding.  C.  S. 

Swift's  "QuiirvEH'a  Tb.vvel.''."  —  The  first 
edition  of  Swift's  immortal  (lidUccr'i  Tranelt  is 
London,  1720,  two  volumes— ratht-r  a  acjLrce  book, 
of  which  a  copy  is  before  me.  I  have  been  a 
good  deal  puzzled  by  another  copy  lately  acquired, 
and  now  also  before  me.  The  first  I  had  of 
lackering,  and  I  shall  call  A.    This  cost  a  good 


sum,  and  is  bound  by  Bedford  in  his  beat  itrla. 
The  second  I  had  of  Arthur  for  a  small  {uica:  It 
is  only  hnlf-calf  and  paper  udea.  Thia  I  lull 
call  B.  Looking  on  A  and  B  as  duplicate  comM^ 
I  was  not  a  little  astonished  tu  find  minuta  diffi^ 
euces  in  the  title-pages,  list  of  parts,  "  The  Put 
Usher  to  the  Reader,"  &c.,  and  clueflT  ia  tbt 
paging:  A  being  paged  regularly  from  begiaiiiag 
to  end  of  each  volume,  while  B  is  paged  aepsntalf 
for  each  part — two  parts  fraing  to  each  toIium. 
The  portrait  facing  title  in  certainly  reij  mnsk 
fresher  in  B.  Is  it  known  if  there  was  ■  MOOdI 
edition,  or  reimpression  of  the  first  edition,  Tllb- 
out  change  of  date  or  £tle-page  ?  The  tUk-piCt 
of  B  ia  as  below ;  — 


iiof  tbsWtdIi 


rral  Hemote  Nati 
In   tour  i-arts.    Hv  Lemuel  Gnllivei 
and  then  a  Captain  ot  wveral  Ships.    VoL  I. 
Printed  for  BenJ.  Hotle.  at  the  Uiddl<  ~ 
Fleet-itnet,  Miwoxxvi." 

C.D.L 

Geobgk  Watsoh  Tatlob — I  had  often  henl 
of  the  great  wealth  of  this  person,  but  only  UtA 
read  in  the  GaOUttiarit  Magasina  of  Not.  1^ 
{p.  460)  that  — 

"  he  was  the  purchaser  of  Iloagbton  Hall  ...  For  Od 
manaioD.  and  a  large  qnintity  of  land  roaad  It,  ha  gSH 
the  Marquis  of  Cholmondeley  360,0001. ;  itill,  hmranf^ 
not  purchuint:  the  whole  ot  the  niarqula*B  eilati  ll 
SnfTolk.  Hr.  Tsvtor,  tu  we  hear,  Is  bound  bj  Uu  wlllrf 
his  ancestor  to  expend  700,00(U,  in  landed  eAatMi  mi 
besides  the  Income  wbich  may  arise  front  th■^^  iH  tM 
95,0O0;,  a  year." 

Where  can  I  learn  more  of  himP  DidnotBto' 
stoke  Park  (query  in  Wiltshire)  belong  to  hiMf 
What  a  lesson  to  fortune-huntera  wotild  be  At 
history  of  the  Duke  of  Chandos,  Beckfoid,  Laf 
Pole  ^VelleBley,  Hughes  or  "the  6olden^'Bd( 
Watson  Taylor,  eDd  many  others  that  might  bl 
cited  of  the  last  century  1  W.  P. 

[Georfte  Watson,  in  consequence  of  hli  maniMS  ti 
Anns  Susanna  Taylor  (daughter  of  John  T^bn;  Bnt, 
a!  I.ysaons,  Jamaica),  isaamed  liv  royal  heeno^  JlH  tt, 
]81fi.  the  additional  surname  and  armi  of  Taflor.  Mb 
U.  Wstsan-Taylor  then  became  seated  at  ErleMoka  PA 
near  Devizes,  Wilts,  and  for  manv  years  tmNHHl 
Devizes  in  Parliament.  The  nnfortnuate  d*pt«eltllaa«f 
West  India  property  having  occasioned  the  rnitt  of  At 
raat  fortune  of  Mr.  Taylor,  a  sale  of  the  "'ir'*'^ 
ossembliige  of  propcrlr  at  Erleittoke  nianuon  byQMM 
[jobing  took  place  on  July  9,  183g,  and  twenty  nMMfr 
ing  days.  See  the  printed  Catalogne  of  tba  finBA 
Iiiclure^  ic,  pp.  220,  and  tbe  Gtmt.  Xaa.  tbt  Am0^  • 
L882.  p.  16S.  Hr.  G.  Watun-Taylor  disd  on  Hv  i 
IN4I,  having  had  bv  the  heireu  of  Tayloi  (ob-Ju-fc 
1153)  four  sons  end  one  dangbtar.— Bttik^  £mM 
arntry,  ed.  lS7r.  p.  1S61,  and  Barka'i  ^iU-dbm  ^1M 
md  Armt,  ii.  234.  A  portrait  of  Hr.  O.  Wataa&Tqkv 
Is  prefixed  to  his  Piicr,  a/ Potlrt,  ad.  1830,  S  Tob.  BraJ 

A  TEiBB^LOKO  ESTlSLnHES. —  • 

"  There  la  Id  Hnnferfiird  Stn 
^llaI]dler'l  bunnesi  whldi  baa  h  . 
'ams  family  in  anccaaricn  and  d  I 
iUee,  ever  since  tba  Ume  of  () 


^th  S.  IX.  April  27,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUElllES. 


343 


business  ba<l  been  established  in  her  reign  :  the  present 
master  of  the  business  being  William  Hedges." — Gent.''» 
Mag.,  IblG,  «<),  i.  620. 

Is  another  instance  known  of  eo  long  a  con- 
tinuance of  a  trade  in  one  locality  ?  The  street 
was,  I  presume,  pulled  down  for  the  formation 
perhaps  of  Ilungerford  Market  j  if  not,  for  the 
present  railway  station.  W.  P. 

Mr,  Turner.  —  Was  this  gentleman  member 
for  Yorkshire  in  1746  ?  I  should  be  glad  of  any 
information  about  him ;  as  also  to  learn  the  names 
of  six  or  eight  priests  who,  through  his  influence, 
were  committed  to  gaol  at  the  time.       A.  E.  G. 

Value  of  Coin. — I  have  had  a  coin  sent  me  to 
say  of  what  value  it  is  at  the  present  time,  but  I 
am  not  able  to  answer  the  question.  Will  you 
kindly  do  so  for  me  P  It  is  a  pruinea  of  Wil- 
liam III.'s  reign.  On  the  obverse  the  king's  head: 
legend,  gvlielmvs  in  dei  gra  rex.  On  reverse 
a  crown,  with  two  (apparently)  sceptres  crossed 

I 
in  saltire  behind  it ;  legend,  oyinea,  beneath  the 

w 
crown.    I  enclose  a  slight  sketch  of  it,  which  will 
explain  it  better  than  my  description.     D.  C.  £. 

[As  there  is  no  type  of  this  coin  in  the  British  Museum 
we  would  advise  our  correspondent  to  submit  it  to  the 
officials  of  the  coin  department. — £d.] 

Victory  over  the  Dutch  on  June  3, 16C6.  — 
Where  is  the  fullest  contemporary  account  in 
English  of  this  sea-fight  to  be  found  ?  A. 

[Consult  Pepvs's  Diary,  edit.  1854,  ii.  197,  243,  253  ; 
iv.  ^1,  222,  224,  252;  Evelyn's  Diary,  passim;  and 
«N.  &.  Q."2»«»S.  ix.257.] 

White  Cliff  [Leaf?]  Cross.  —  On  a  hill 
risiDg  to  the  east  of  the  village  of  Princes'  Ris- 
borough,  in  the  county  of  Buckingham,  is  to  be 
seen  a  huge  cross  of  the  Roman  form,  cut  deep 
into  the  solid  chalk.  As  looked  at  from  the  rail- 
road it  seems  to  rest  upon  a  triangular  base,  evi- 
dently a  chalk-pit,  going  down  deep  into  the  side 
of  the  hill.  As  this  cross  is  said  to  be  of  very 
ancient  date,  and  I  can  gather  no  information 
respecting  it  from  persons  in  the  neighbourhood, 
according  to  mv  usual  custom,  I  seek  light  through 
the  medium  of  "N.  &  Q." 

Edward  Tew,  M.A. 

["The  woods  of  Hampden  terminate  to  the  north  upon 
the  bare  brow  of  a  lofty  bill,  called  Green  Haly,  on  the 
side  of  which  is  cut,  in  the  chalk,  the  form  of  a  cross, 
which  is  seen  from  all  the  countr}'  round.  This  monu- 
ment, of  very  remote  antiquity,  is  known  by  the  name  of 
the  White  Zea/ Cross,  and  is  supposed  by  Mr.  Wise  (in  a 
learned  letter  to  Browne  Willis  on  the  subject  of  Saxon 
Antiquities)  to  have  been  designed  in  commemoration 
of  a  victory  gained  by  Edward,  king  of  the  West  Saxons, 
over  the  I)ane8,  early  in  the  tenth  century.  It  appears, 
however,  with  more  probability,  to  have  been  intended 
as  a  memorial  of  the  last  battle  of  Hengist  and  Horsa 
with  the  Britons,  which  was  fought  over  the  extensive 
j&i^  oi  Biaborough  and  Saimderton,  when  ori  this  height 


and  on  tlie  Bledlow  Ridge  which  adjoins  it  the  Saxon 
princes  planted  their  victorious  standards  to  recal  their 
troops  from  the  pursuit."  (Lord  Nugent's  Memorials  of 
John  Hampden,  edit.  18G0,p.  131.)  Consult  also  Lipscomb  s 
Buckinghamshire,  ii.  412  ;  Beauties  of  England  and  Wales, 
i.  127 ;  and  Murray's  Handbook  of  Berks,  Bucks,  and 
Oxfordshire,  ed.  18G0,  p.  111.] 

New  Zealander  and  London  Bridge.  —  Is 
it  generally  known  that  Mr.  Macaulay's  often 
quoted  image  of  the  New  Zealander  on  London 
bridge,  &c.;  is  not  original  P  If  not,  nerhaps  this 
notice  may  be  in  place  in  "N.  &  Q."  in  the 
London  Magazine  for  July  1745,  under  the  head 
of  a  well- written  satirical  essay,  entitled — 

**  Humorous  Thoughts  on  the  Removal  of  the  Seat  of 
Empire  and  Commerce ;  with  Examples  from  many  Cities 
of  Antiquity," — 

I  find  the  following  paragraph :  — 

**  When  I  have  been  indulging  this  thought  i  have,  in 
imagination,  seen  the  Britons  of  some  future  century 
walking  by  the  banks  of  the  Thames,  then  overgrown 
with  weeds,  and  rendered  almost  impassable  with  rubbish. 
The  father  points  to  his  son  where  stood  St.  Paul's,  the 
Monument,  the  Bank,  the  Mansion-house,  and  other 
places  of  the  first  distinction.  Such  as  one  traveller  now 
shows  another,  of  less  experience,  the  venerable  ruins  of 
Pagan  Rome,"  &c. 

I  think  this  looks  very  like  the  original  of 
Macaulay's  figure.  J.  Mo. 

[Several  writers  have  already  been  mentioned  as  likdy 
to  have  suprgttsted  Lord  Macaulay's  graphic  sketch  of  the 
**  New  Zealander,"  e.  g,  Volney,  Horace  Walpole,  Kirke 
White,  Mrs.  Barbauld,  and  Shelley.  (See  "  N.  &  Q.,** 
!•*  S.  ix.  74,  159,  361).  The  extract  from  the  London 
Magazine,  1745,  must  take  the  preced^ice  in  point  of 
time.] 

BATTLE  OF  EVESHAM. 
(4«»»  S.  ix.  14.) 

The  Anglo-Norman  poem  on  the  battle  of  Eves- 
ham will  be  found  in  The  Political  Songs  of  Eng* 
land,  edited  for  the  Camden  Society  by  T.  Wright, 
£t>q.  An  English  translation  in  prose  is  given 
below  the  original.  Mr.  Wright  in  a  note  (p.  368) 
states  that  a  translation  in  English  verse,  by 
George  Ellis,  is  contained  in  the  second  edition  of 
Kitson's  Ancient  Songs  (1829).  Is  not  this  trans- 
lation by  Sir  W.  Scott  ? 

Sir  F.  Valgrave's  volume  appears  to  have  been 
reprinted  with  additions  in  1820,  in  which  year 
it  was  reviewed  by  Mr.  Lockhart  in  the  Quarterly 
(vol.  XXV.) : — 

**  Trandations  from  the  Servian  Minstrelsy :  to  which 
are  added  some  specimens  of  Anglo-Norman  Romances, 
4to.  London,  1826." 

Mr.  Lockhart  states — 
**  the  noble  ballad  on  the  battle  of  Evesham, 
*  Ore  eat  ocys  la  flar  de  pris  qe  taunt  savoit  de  gnere, 
Ly  Qnens  Moontibrt  am  dare  mort  molt  en  piorm  la 
terre,*dte., 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


l^*^  S.  rX.  Apbil  27,  "Tl 


....  was  long  ago  translated  as  well  as  possible  by  Sir 
Walter  Scott." 

He  adds  in  a  foot-note— 

**  It  is  hardly  ri;;ht  that  this  fine  version  of  a  fine  poem 
should  be  allowed  to  lie  baried  in  Kit8on*s  Songs.  Why 
is  it  not  included  in  the  editions  of  Sir  Walter  Scott's 
works  ?  " 

I  have  not  seen  this  translation  in  anv  edition 
of  Scott's  poetry.    The  first  verse  is  as  follows : — 

*'  In  woeful  wise  mv  song  shall  rise. 

My  heart  impefls  the  strain  ; 
Tears  fit  the  song,  which  tells  the  wrong 

Of  gentle  Barons  slayn. 
Favr  peace  to  gaine  they  fought  in  vayn, 

I'heir  house  to  ruin  gave. 
And  limb  and  life  to  bntcheryng  knifs. 

Our  native  laud  to  save. 

**  Xow  lowly  lies  the  flower  of  pries, 
That  conid  so  much  of  weir  : 
£rle  Mont  fort's  scathe,  and  heiivy  death, 
Shall  cost  the  world  a  tear." 

In  the  sixth  verse  the  line — 
**Pre8  de  sou  oors,  le  bon  tresors,  une  htyrt  troverent," 

is  translated  by  Mr.  Wright,  "  Xear  his-bodv,  the 
good  treasure,  an  Jieir  they  found,"  ana  ex- 
plained— 

"I  suppose  this  refers  to  (Juy  de  Montfort,  Simun's 
second  son,  who  was  taken  prisoner  at  Kve.'iham,  but 
afterwards  (^capn^l  and  fied  to  the  Continent." 

The  poetical  translation  is — 

"  His  bosdm  nere,  a  treasure  dere, 
A  gackclothe  iJiirt  thev  fouHde." 

Which  is  probiibly  the  corrfict  meanini::  of  tiu> 
word  **heyre."  Indeed  the  heir  is  nientioiied  in 
the  next  vorae — 

"  Priez  touz,  nies  amis  douz,  Ic  litz  Seinto  M.-iri'^ 
Qe  renfdut,  her  puissant,  mcigiie  en  bime  vie." 

K.  Bartsch.  in  the  glossary  to  his  Chra^tomnthi.- 
de  r widen  Frangai*,  has  **  here,  ciiico,  /?///fsy/.- 
wwirf."  E.  M.  B.viiRY. 

Scotborne  Vicarage. 

"GOD'S  MILLS  GRIND  SLOWLY." 

(4'*'  S.  vi.  439,  503.) 

George  Herbert,  no  doubt,  gives  this  proverb, 
but  it  is  of  much  eiirlier  date  than  his  Jacida  Pm- 
defUuniy  boifig  found  in  Plutarch's  Essay,  De  His 
qui  sero  a  Numine  fnmiuntur  (c.  3;  :  — 

CUrrt  oi>x  ^p«  Ti  xP^l^^l^oy  iv9ari  rots  orpe  B:)  rovrois 
dXeif/  \tyofX€vois  (xvKois  rwv  Oewv,  Kal  rroioiat  t}}P  BIkti^ 
ifMVpayy  Kcd  rbv  <f>6fioy  ^|it^\of  rrjs  KaKtas. 

**  So  then  I  do  not  see  what  advantage  there  is  to  those 
who  are  said  to  grind,  though  it  may  be  late,  in  the  mills 
of  the  gods,  since  in  this  way  justice  is  obscureil,  and  the 
fear  of  acting  unjustly  is  altogether  obliterated." 

This  has  been  formed  into  a  Greek  hexameter,  I 
know  not  by  whom :  — 


In  collections  of  proverbs  of  mediaral  tiuM  it 
is  given  as  "  Sero  moluntDeorum  molie : "  '^httB 
(but  sure)  grind  God*8  mills."  The  idea  of  the 
long-suffering  of  God  with  man*8  wickedn—  ■ 
not  only  found  in  our  most  holy  faith,  bat  oodi 
scarcely  escape  the  notice  of  the  more  obnrfiit 
of  the  ancients.  Even  so  early  as  Homer  (il  ir. 
IGO)  wo  find  the  idea  strongly  expressed :  — 

Etvtp  ydp  T€  Koi  avriK  ^OKvfiTios  owe  ^JXmw^ 
"Ek  re  fcttl  6^i  TcA.ci,  avf  rt  firydx^  kwdrt 

'*  For  though  the  God  of  Olympas  does  not 
mediate  punishment,  he  will  do  so  though  k  mij  btUH^ 
and  the  wioked  will  sulTci  severely."* 

The  slowness  of  punishment  is  exprowed  taUi- 
fully  in  the  following  fragment  of  Euripidaf  :^ 

0(/ro(  vpoctXOovo''  ^  Afmj  <rf  x^w9T€ 
Ilarirf  {  irpo5  ^rctp,  abSt  rStv  6\Kv¥  $poTAf 
Toy  i^iKoyy  aWd  iriya,  nai  fipaBtt  iralSl 
Srcixovd'a,  fid(nFT€i  robs  kokovs  ail  fiporm^m 

*•  Ven^reance  comes  not  oi)enly  either  upon  yomorMlf 
other  wicked  man,  but  steals  ailvntly  and  impcffaiflft^i 

placing  its  foot  on  the  bad." 

Zenobius  (cent.  iv.  11)  and  other  panBiUQIl^ 
phists  express  the  idea  somewhat  diSmaldf:*^ 

Zcvs   KOTtiit   Xi^^*'*^^    '(t    """^t    iupOtpaXf  '*  Ju|itV  H 

late  in  looking  into  his  note-book,"  whenhtltf 
collected  tho  crimos  of  the  wicked,  an  id«  nM 
we  mark  when  wo  e.\claim,  **  He  has  got  Ui 
defierts  ■'  if  punishment  has  at  last  overtaken  M 
scoundrel. 

,  If  wo  turn  to  Roman  writers  we  have  It  tt 
Horace  (Or/,  iii.  2,  W) :—  , 

"  Karo  anfx>ccilentem  8c<>letituin 
Deseruit  pede  Poena  claudo;** 

nnd  in  Persius  (i^tt.  u.  24) :  — 

"  If^noviij^se  put:i.<,  quia,  cum  tunat,  odna  flex 
(Sulfure  discutitur  saoro,  quum  luque  dooraa^' 

This  is  well  expressed  by  Motastasio  in  Jul  <V 

J^lena  al  Calcario :  — 

"  Vefft^o  ben  io  percho. 
Padre  del  Ciel,  non  ^ 
Piu  froitolosi)  il  fulmine 
Gl'  ingrati  a  incenerir. 

"Tardo  a  punir  discendi, 
()  pcrchfe  il  reo  a'  emendl, 
O  perch b  il  giusto  acquiati 
Merito  nel  soflFrir." 

**  1  see  well,  O  heavenly  Father,  why  thy  tfaandaMl 
do  not  hasten  to  destnty  the  impioiu.  Thon  ait  diV  H 
punish,  either  tliat  bad  men  may  have  time  to  igpMLK 
that  the  righteous  may  be  made  paiftct  thnMi^  wmt' 
ing." 

I  have  no  doubt  many  paMagee  miglit  ke  iSlA 
in  our  English  poets,  but  I  give  meiwf  am  ~ 
Milton  {Paradise  Lod,  x.  866) :  -^ 

<*  Rut  death  comes  not  at  call ;  Jostiee  dlvlae 
Mends  not  her  slowest  pace  fur  pfV'llB  er 

at 


^jttHtitl 


4«i»  S.  IX.  April  27,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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"  AS  STRAIGUT  AS  A  DIE." 
(4»'>  S.  ix.  119,  185,  249.) 

The  precise  words  or  the  exact  meaning  of  an 
old  saving  cannot,  I  take  it,  be  found  by  random 
quotations   from  the  classics   or  inapposite   and 
tortuous  "  Shaksperiana."    Such  might  have  done 
service  for  ^*  the  famous  hands ''  in   old  Jacob 
Tonson's  days;  but  will  not,  I  apprehend,  have 
much  weight  in  "  N.  &  Q."  a.d.  1872.    If  \V.(l)a 
interpretation  of  this  saying  is  correct,  the  words 
should  be  '^  As  square  as  the  dice."    The  proper 
way  to  find  the  precise  words  and  meaning  must 
be  by  a>certaining   how  the    saying  was  and  is 
used.    What  made  me  so  confident  in  my  first 
reply,  as  to  its  being  "  as  level  as  a  die,"  was  that 
I  have  used  it  myself  for  thirty  years.    I  "  caught 
it "  from  a  relative  born  "  anent  the  three  sevens," 
1777.     He  assured  me  that  he  had  it  (with  many 
others  that  I  have  made  a  note  of)  from  his 
father,  who  was  born  about  the  century  before 
last ;  so  that  its  pedigree  nms  back  to  the  early 
period  of  the  intricate  gear  so  ably  described  by 
MK.  G.  Wallis  as  the  **  old  mode  of  stamping,'' 
and  contradicts  his  interpretation  of  the  saying. 
In  fact,  **  as  level  as  a  die  "  is  doubly  applicable 
to  the  old  mode,  because  not  only  the  fixed  but 
the  descending  die  in  pfirticular  would  have  to 
be  firmly  set  and  exactly  level  in  the  machinery 
to  secure  a  perfect  impression,  as  the  old  mode 
was  more  violent  in  its  operation.    I  can  name 
several  gentlemen  in  this  neighbourhood  whc^can 
confirm  my  opinion.  I  have  never  heard  it  used  but 
in  the  senile  of  levelness.  The  aged  relative  quoted 
was  a  sportsman,  known  to  several  readers  and 
some  writers  in  "  N.  &  Q." ;  and  whether  describ- 
ing the  floor  of  a  cock-pit,  the  contour  of  a  race- 
course, the  state  of  a  bowling-jjreen,  or  the  surface 
of  the  water  on  a  calm  day,  his  simile  would  in- 
variably be — "  It  was  as  level  as  a  die,  sir." 

There  can  be  no  doubt  but  that  the  saying 
arose  and  was  perpetuated  by  the  appearance  of  | 
new  coinage  from  time  to  time. 

It  does  not  mean  smooth,  as  neither  side  of  a 
coin  is  so  literally ;  but  level^  so  that  the  figures 
and  inscriptions  upon  the  obverse  and  reverse  are 
evenly  stamped,  and  appear  without  elevations  or 
depressions.  C.  Chattock. 

Castle  BroQiwich. 


DEFECTS  IN  MARRIAGE  REGISTERS. 
(4"»  S.  ix.  277.) 

Having  seen  the  registers  of  a  large  number  of 
parishes,  both  small  and  great,  I  believe  the  omis- 
rion  complained  of  will  be  found  far  more  generally 
in  theMatter  than  the  former,  much  time  being 
Moeaiarily  taken  up  in  filling  up  the  double  re- 
giflton  of  several  married  couples ;  and  both  par- 
tiee  to  the  oentnct  shy  of  telling,  perhaps  for  the 


first  time  to  each  other,. their  exact  ages;  both 
also,  in  country  parishes,  often,  apparently,  wofully 
ignorant  of  their  own  ages.  I  have,  from  the  first 
time  I  had  to  make  an  entry,  recognised  the  im- 
portance of  giving  the  ages  correctly ;  and  have 
sometimes  been  amused  at  a  discussion  between 
the  man  or  wife  and  the  clerk,  who  appeared  to 
know  better  what  was  the  husband's  or  wife's  age 
than  themselves. 

Frequently,  I  could  plainly  see  that  the  age 
stated  was  a  mere  guess,  probably  ten  years  from 
the  truth,  and  in  despair  of  even  approximating  to 
it,  have  entered  **full  age."^  But  it  is  certainly 
most  desirable,  in  the  interests  of  both  parties, 
that  they  should  overcome  their  reluctance  to 
state  their  ages  exactly. 

In  connection  with  this,  may  I  be  allowed  to 
point  out  an  error,  as  I  conceive  it  to  be,  almost 
universally  fallen  into  by  the  clergy,  and  of  which 
I  have  myself  many  times  been  guilty,  viz.,  after 
performing  the  ceremony  of  baptism,  marriage, 
or  burial,  entering,  under  the  usual  heading  "  By 
whom  the  ceremony  was  performed,"  *'  Officiating 
Minister,"  in  a  church  where,  perhaps,  no  other 
service  of  any  kind  is  performed  by  the  person 
who  so  styles  himself.  '' Officiating  Minister" 
can  only  mean  one  who,  for  a  short  time  at  least, 
takes  the  regular  minister's  place,  and  officiates  in 
the  ordinary  services;  and  when  a  clerk  from 
another  parish  performs  simply  '*  a  surplice  duty/' 
as  it  is  commonly  called,  would  it  not  be  better 
to  enter  his  own  title  as  rector,  vicar,  or  curate  of 
so  and  so  ?  There  would  then  be  no  risk,  a  few 
vears  later,  of  clergymen  being  supposed  to  have 
had  pastoral  charge  of  parishes  of  which  they 
never  were  in  charge.  I  regret  now  having, 
through  inadvertence,  committed  "  a  multitude  of 
sins  "  in  this  way  myself. 

Francis  J.  Lsachmak. 

20,  Cotnptnn  Terrace,  Highbary. 


TOW : — 


I        "THE  WEARIN'  O*  TUE  GREEN:"  **SHAN 
I  VAN  VOCHT." 

(4«^S.  ix.'301.) 

I  send  two  of  the  songs  asked  for  by  Mb.  HakiIi- 

TTie  Wearin'  o*  the  Green. 

**  Och !  have  ye  heard  the  cmel  newt, 

The  news  that's  going  round  ? — 
The  ehamrock  is  by  law  forbid 

To  grow  OB  Irish  ground. 
St.  Patrick's  Day  no  more  we'll  kape. 

His  colour  cant  be  seen, 
For  there's  a  cmel  law  against 

The  wearin'  o'  the  green. 

**  I  met  with  Napper  Tandy, 
And  be  took  me  bv  the  hand : 
Oh !  how  is  poor  old  Ireland, 
And  how  does  she  stand  ? 


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[4th  S.  IX,  Apbil  27,  Tt 


'Tis  the  most  distressful  country 

That  ever  yet  was  seen, 
For  they're  hanging  men  and  women  there 

For  wearin*  o'  the  green.' 

*•  Oh !  if  the  colour  we  must  wear 

Be  England's  cruel  red, 
Let  it  remind  us  of  the  blood 

That  Ireland  has  shed  ; 
Then  take  the  shamrock  from  yonr  hat. 

And  fling  it  on  the  sod, 
And  never  fear  'twill  take  root  there 

Tho'  under  foot  'tis  trod. 

'^  When  law  can  stop  the  blades  of  grass 

From  growing  as  they  grow, 
And  when  the  leaves  in  summer  time 

Their  colour  cease  to  show, 
Oh  !  then  I'll  change  the  favour 

That  I  wear  in  my  caw  been  ; 
But  till  that  time,  please  God,  I'll  stick 

To  wearin'  o'  the  green." 

The  Shan  Van  Vocht, 

**The  sainted  isle  of  old,  said  the  Shan  Van  Vocht, 
The  parent  and  the  mould  of  the  beautiful  and  bold. 
Has  her  sainted  heart  waxed  cold  ?  says  the  Shan  Van 
Vocht. 

*»The  French  arc  on  the  say,  says  the  Shan  Van  Vocht, 
The  French  are  on  the 'say,' they'll  be  here  without 

delay, 
And  tne  orange  shall  decay,  sa^'s  the  Shan  Van  Vocht. 

**  Where  shall  the  encampment  be  ?  says  the  Shan  Van 

Vocht. 
On  the  Curragh  of  Eildare,  with  their  pikes  in  good 

repair. 
And  Lord  £dward  shall  be  there,  says  the  Shan  Van 

Vocht. 

**  What  colours  shall  they  wear  ?  says  the   Shan  Van 
Vocht. 
What  colours  should  be  seen,  where  our  fathers'  homes 

have  been, 
Bnt   our  own  immortal  green?  says  the  Shan  Van 
Vocht. 

[End  of  old  verses.] 

**  What  shall  our  yeomen  do  ?  says  the  Shan  Van  Vocht> 
What  should  our  yeomen  do,  but  put  down  the  red  and 

blue, 
And  to  Ireland  be  true  ?  says  the  Shan  Van  Vocht. 

"  Shall  Ireland  then  be  free  ?    says  the  Shan  Van  Vocht. 
Yes,  Ireland  shall  be  free,  and  we'll  plant  the  laurel- 
tree, 
And  well  call  it  libertv,  savs  the  Shan  Van  Vocht. 

"The  Saxon  and  the  Dane,  says  the  Shan  Van  Vocht, 
The  Saxon  and  the  Dune  our  immortal  hills  profane  : 
O  confusion  seize  the  twain  !  savs  the  Shan  Van  Vocht. 

"  What  are  the  chiefs  to  do  ?  savs  the  Shan  Van  Vocht. 
What  should  the  chieftains  do  but  treat  the  hireling 

crew 
To  a  touch  of  Brian  Boroimh  ?  lavs  the  Shan  Van 
Vocht." 

These  last  four  verses  are  a  modem  addition  to 
the  ori^nal ;  the  tune  is,  I  believe,  old.  *'  The 
Wearin'  o'  the  Green  "  is  arranged  for  the  piano 
by  Kuhe. 

Oliver  Holmes  says  in  his  Metrical  £ssay,  a 

propos  of  "  Yankee  Doodle,"  that — 

"  When  victory  follows  with  our  eagle's  glance, 
Our  nation's  anthem  is  a  country  dance." 

B.  C. 


ALLAN  CUNNINGHAM,  THE  BIOGRAPHER. 

(4"»  S.  ix.  319.) 

The  materials  on  which  Allan  Cunningham 
founded  his  Life  of  Sir  Henry  Haebum  weie 
derived  direct  from  the  painter  8  aon,  and  con- 
sisted mainly  of  a  very  lonff  letter  (eaual  to  at 
least  ten  epistles  of  these  degenerate  oays),  and 
a  pamphlet  memoir  of  twenty-seven  octavo  pagWy 
which  1  believe  to  be  a  reprint  from  the  Annual 
Biography  and  Obituary,  Both  the  pamphlet  and 
the  letter  are  now  before  me,  and  neither  contains 
any  hint  of  Mrs.  Raebum's  previous  maniaga 
The  eon  simply  says — 

"  Sir  Henry  married,  at  twenty-two  vears  of  igi, 
Ann  Edgar,  the  eldest  daughter  of  Peter  Edgar,  Eaqidn^ 
of  Bridgelands,  by  whom  he  had  two  boos,  Peter  fiii 
myself,  as  mentioned  in  the  Memoir.** 

After  the  publication  of  the  Idfey  several  cor- 
respondents pointed  out  the  omission,  and  gafS 
particulars  regarding  Mr.  Leslie^  the  lady's  fint 
nusband.  The  earliest  of  them  describes  him  as 
**  a  wine  and  seed  merchant  at  the  Cross,  in  part- 
nership with  that  highly  respected  magistnto 
Provost  Elder;  "  adding,  "  When  a  boy  I  was  in- 
timate with  Jamie  Lesfie  and  Hany  Raebani,hir 
sons  hj  her  two  husbands."  A  later  correspondflii 
calls  him  "  Count  Leslie  "  (I  presume  a  nidmsms) 
and  traces  the  connections  of  his  two  daoghtei^ 
Mrs.  Jacobina  Vere  and  Mrs.  Ann  Inglis,  indi- 
viduals regarding  whom  the  readers  of  "  N.  &(V 
will  be  content  to  remain  in  ignorance.  Tho0 
correspondents  were  thoroughly  acquainted  wA 
the  ins  and  outs  of  the  families,  and  wrO^  tp&eid^f 
as  correctors,  but  not  one  word  do  they  say  igsiMt 
tlie  story  which  S.  is  pleased,  forty  years  aftv 
the  publication  of  the  book,  to  characterise  ai  IB 
''  extravagant  invention."  It  is  still  mors  M- 
nificant  that  the  son  of  the  two  actors  in  tla 
storv,  who  himself  took  sucb  an  interest  in  tha 
preparation  of  the  Memoir,  never  hinted  an  olyio* 
tion  to  the  statement;  and  it  has  been,  quM 
without  anv  doubt  of  its  authenticity  by  a  mania 
intimate  with  Edinburgh  and  its  traditions  la  the 
late  Robert  Chambers.  With  regard  to  what  S> 
in  his  wisdom  \a  pleased  to  consider  a  ^  farto 
exposure  of  the  absurdity  of  the  story,"  the  Mr 
namely,  that  an  artist  in  his  teens  became  tft" 
amoured  of  a  fair  sitter  a  few  years  older  thiB 
himself,  I  am  content  to  leave  that  part  of  tha 
question  to  the  sense,  or  it  may  be  the  ezperieioa 
of  vour  readers. 

!Heing  unable  to  trace  the  precise  souioe  from 
which  the  anecdote  was  derived,  I  must  ventoia 
upon  a  conjecture.  The  Lite»  of  the  BamUn 
formed  a  portion  of  Mr.  Murray's  tkun^  LArmfj 
which,  as  is  well  known,  was  under  the  same 
editorship  as  the  Quarter^  Sevuw^  md  I  ^oaatfi 
a  heap  of  letters  written  by  Mr.  Lookhart  on  ths 
subject  of  the  six  volumes.  One  of  tham  I  Mb- 
join.    It iBd&t^Chkftwoo^&fUmhtr^lBBlt 


.:i.wjl 


4*8.  IS.  Aiitn.27,'72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


347 


d  Chi 


irrecting  yoat  sheets,   please  o 

lo  in  1  booh  of  tbis  kind  lo  rei 

Ftince,'  'the  Bishop  of  Londoi 

.  ,    and  80  furlh.    Alwaj-B  give  tl 

lArd  Cbsncdlor  EldoK.  Biahap  Hoalty,  > 


vAoP    Hereafter  this  iafDniialion  will   be  asked 
Tun,  ir  you  witliholil  it.    I  have  supplied  many  of  the 
names,  but  I  can't  do  so  by  all  in  this  bookleai  glen. 

•  Lifi  B/Hatbura;  and  tlven  a  puff  of  mv  poor  fnend 
Hagb  Williams  in  a  note.  Sic  ^V^altcr  is  now  fixed  for 
Xaplea,  and  will  start  by  the  end  or  the  month,  about 
Which  lime  I  aUo  shall  be  moring  southworl.*. 

"  J.  G.  LOCKHABT." 

Herp,  at  any  Tate,  is  proof  that  Lockhurt,  wlio 
knerw  liaebuni  wtll,  when  seated  at  the  elbow  of 
Scot  t,  who  knew  Lim  still  better,  found  nolhiog- 
to  object  to  in  the  iinectlote;  but  I  will  go  further 
atil],  and  express  raj  coolideat  belief  tbst  it  is 
ooe  of  the  "good  many  timches"  which  he  bim- 
Mlf  icserted.  Fkascis  CifNNIKOa*a. 

Kensington. 

P.S.  It  \s  perhaps  worth  while  to  add  that  the 
younger  fiftebum  writes,  "  It  gives  me  great 
pleaauro  fo  bear  that  Sir  Walter  Scott  and  Mr, 
LiOckhitrt  are  to  furniah  you  with  their  reoollec* 
tions,  which  I  have  no  doubt  will  be  very  tbIu- 
•ble,"— F.  C. 

"Ftk,  qae  rub  hee,"  ktc.  (l"  S.  ii.  240, 283,) 
You  will  find  in  Johnston's  Sftaieal  Mutetim 
(Blackwood,  Edinb.,  I83D]  a  passage  that  seems 
to  have  escaped  the  notice  of  your  former  corre- 
spondents.   It  is  as  follows  :— 

"This  air  is  very  ancient,  but  the  precise  era  of  ila 
comporition  is  unhnawu ;  but  It  is  at  least  aa  old  aa  the 
— '~ii  of  Queen  Mary,  ai  it  is  inserted  in  a  MS.  music- 
it  the  beginning  of  the 


"  N.  &  Q."  Aa  Dr.  Cromwell  was  ordained  in  a 
disaonting  chapel  (in  my  preeenct;,  as  a  epectatoi), 
the  presumption  ia  that  he  had  not  been  ordained 
previously.  When  clergymen  become  dissentiiiK 
paatora,  their  episcopal  ordination  suffices,  and 
nothing  more  ia  required.  Probably  the  word 
"minister"  in  Lewis  is  a  printer's  erratum  for 
"  member." 

As  X  NEWcieToiru^  and  Qsgek  Mas, 


[Itw 


S," 


last  eenta 


TbU 


'nowct 
Who  Bea 


ly  taatc  of  joy  a  or  grief 


ly  s  pom 


Tdid 


"'  Mr.  Gay  also  selected  it  aa  a  melody  fbr  one  of  his 
longsin  bis  mnsical  opera  oJ  AchiUa,  beginning 'Think 
«bst  anguish,'  which  was  perfonned  at  Covent  Garden 
0  1733.  After  tbe  author's  ileeease  this  song  was  sung 
ij  Miss  Koru  in  Ibc  character  of  Deidamia.  Thomson 
rablished  this  tune  to  Ramsav's  venva  in  his  Otphtai 
^altdoKiki  in  I72u,  and  Watt.H,"  ic. 
JVTiich  bringa  all  I  know  about  it  down  to  the 
wint  where  Ma,  Cbappeel  left  it  in  your  last 
lumber.  J.  fl. 

The  late  Rev.  Thomas  Cromweli,  Ph.  D. 
4''<  S.  ii,  m)-It  is  not  often  that  the  editorial 
lotes  ia  "  K.  &  Q."  are  questionable ;  but  I  think 
hHt  in  the  one  at  p.  IDS  {mprd)  there  is  a  mis-  I 
ike,  with  which,  bowever,  Lewis  (the  historian 
f  lalington)  is  chargeable,  and  not  the  Editor  of 


UBv.  Thomas  Cromwell  was  formerly  of  the  Church  of 
l^gtand ." — Ei>.  ] 

Sbalisg-wai  (4*  S.  ix.  263.)— To  thia  query 
I  would  beg  leave  to  add :  Can  any  one  infonn. 
me  wby  no  good  sealing-wax  is  to  be  had  any- 
where now-a-daya  for  love  or  money,  with  tha 
perhaps  of  what  ia  called  "  India  seal- 
ing-wax"? I  say  perhaps,  becnuse  even  that.ia 
not  eadly  worked.  It  is  not,  I  suspect,  at  the 
present  day  that  Johnaon,  deacribing  tbnt  concrete 
brittle  Bubatance  called  "lac  "brought  &om  tho 
East  Indies,  would  say,  "it  is  principally  used  in 
making  seaUng-wax,"  What  is  now  sold  lac/u  it 
altogether;  and  yet  bow  desirable  was  its  durabi- 
lity ;  how  it  enhances  the  value  of  a  document  to 
have  the  seal,  and  that  in  good  condition !  I  have 
tetters  of  the  seventeenth,  eighteenth,  and  nine- 
teenth centuries  with  bright  red  wax  seals,  the 
coata  of  arms  on  which  have  muntained  to  this 
dav  as  sharp  edges  as  though  tbe  impression  had 
only  just  been  taken;  whereas  now,  after  encloa- 
ing  a  letter  but  a  short  time  in  a  portfolio  or 
autograph -book,  tbe  seal  will  soon  get  obliterated. 
Fitiy  years  ago  good  solid  sealing-wax  could  still 
be  procured.  To  be  aure  you  would  sometdmee 
get  a[)urious  Dutch  wax,  with  Vd  brand  en  /<ut 
hoiid,  instead  of  "  Brand  vel  en  houd  fast "  (bumB 
well  and  holds  fast)  on  it. 

I  have  alutterof  tbe  Duke  of  Marlborough  (1821) 
with  the  arms  and  supporters,  with  tho  motto 
of  the  Garter,  "  Honi  soit,"  Sec,  and  underneath 
"  Dieu  d^fende  le  droit "  in  beautiful  preservaldon, 
I  have  also  one  of  the  Earl  of  Bradford  (1832) 
with  the  motto,  "  Xec  temere  neo  timide."  Now 
I  find  this  same  adage  beneath  an  engraved  por- 
trait of  a  hook-nosed  dignitary  with  a  large  wig. 
A  la  Louis  XIY.,  and  richly  laced  dre^,  punted 
by  J.  van  Helmont,  171.3,  and  engraved  by  B. 
Picart,  1718.  There  is  no  name,  but  the  foUow- 
ing  inscription : — 


348 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4>^a.IX.  AnaLZZin 


Maitthxb  (4"^  S.  iz.  65,  167,  207,  286.)— I 
think  that  this  tenn  as  applied  to  young  girls  in 
the  Eastern  Counties  may  naye  originated  in  the 
following  way.  It  is  well  known  that  amongst 
working  people,  mothers  who  have  children  fast 
take  the  earliest  opportunity  of  delegating  their 
powers  for  the  day  to  the  eldest  daughter  to  avoid 
oeing  teased  in  domestic  affairs,  or  to  allow  time 
for  work  in  the  fields,  of  which  they  are  glad  to 
avail  themselves  to  increase  the  weekly  wa^s. 
On  assuming  this  new  character,  the  eldest  girls 
might  have  had  this  term  applied  to  them  hr 
companions  more  free  from  aomestic  cares.  It 
seems  but  a  drawling  way  of  pronouncing  mother, 
and  such  as  the^  would  use  it  in,  that  is,  iron- 
ically, and  in  imitation  of  the  young  children. 

C.  Chattock. 

Castle  Bromwich. 

This  word  is  to  be  found  in  the  English-Latin 
part  of  Elisha  Coles's  Latin  Dxctionary,  fifteenth 
edition,  London,  1740  — 

**  A  maif thSr,  puella,  virgancula,  »,  fem,^* 

W.  R.  Tatb. 
5,  Denmark  Row,  Camborwell. 

Burials  in  Gardens  (4^  S.  viiL  pauim ;  ix. 
08,  284.') — With  regard  to  this  once  fluent  cus- 
tom, wnich  has  now,  I  believe,  become  nearly 
obsolete,  I  read  in  a  French  paper,  speaking  of 
the  celebrated  navigator  Lap^rouse : — 

**  Un  incident  d*nn  inter^t  romanesqae  «e  rattache  aa 
Bonvenir  de  noire  grand  navigateur.  8a  noble  compagne 
n'a  jamais  vouln,  mal^^  sa  grande  beaute  qui  la  faisitifc 
recliercher,  contractcr  ime  nouvellc  union  ;  elle  attendait 
•on  man,  et  I'a  attend ii  toutc  na  vie.  Andrd  Ciienier, 
senBiblu  h  tout  cc  qui  (^tait  grand  et  dcHicat,  a  parU  de 
M.  de  la  P<5rou8e  dans  des  vers  chnrniants : — 

"  J'accuserais  Ics  vents  et  cette  mer  jaloasc. 
Qui  Tctient,  qui  pcut-etre  a  gard^  La  Perouse." 

This  illustrious  man  knew  and  loved  the  beau- 
tiful and  faithful  El^onore  de  Brondon  during  one 
of  his  voyages  in  the  Indian  Archipelago.  On 
the  report  of  her  husband's  death,  she  retired  to 
lament  his  untimely  end  with  her  friend  the 
Countess  Hocquart,  at  whose  chateau  in  Ijouve- 
cienne  (near  St.  Germain)  she  lived  and  died. 
Her  remains  were  buried  in  the  private  park.  A 
few  years  ago,  this  property  having  changed 
hand?,  the  friends  had  the  coiHn  transferred  to  a 
family  vault  in  a  public  burial-ground. 

P.  A.  L. 

BaldursbrX  (4»»'  S.  ix.  150,  210,  209.)— I 
quote  from  the  admirable  IccUmdiC'EnyliiOi  Die- 
tionary  of  Cleasby  and  Gndbrand  Vigfupson  (p. 
50): — '*  Baldrs-W,  Balder' s  eyebrow,  botan. 
Cotula  fcctida  ....  perhaps  i/*c  eychright  or 
euphraiw.^'  Dalin's  Ordbok  ii/ver  Hvenska  Sprak^t 
calls  thft  Swedish  "  Buldewbra  "  the  Antlwmis 
cotula.  Iljaltalin,  in  his  Iglem/k  Orasafraa^i  (an 
excellent  work  on  the  flora  of  Iceland),  gives  the 
botanical  name  cf  the  Baldursbra  as  Pyrethrum 


modorum.  So  dcee  Ivar  Aasen  in  hu  NarwflgpB 
dictionary  under  the  words  ^'BallebrM^  uA 
<<  Baldurbraa."  In  his  Lexicim  FioHicutm,  St»- 
bjom  Egilsson  gives  both  CciulafcBiubiBsidJMh 
mis  coima,  citing  two  modem  Icelandic  authoii- 
ties.  May  not  the  truth  be  that  the  name  of  tfw 
good  god  Baldur  was  in  Icelandic  and  Norwij 
more  commonly  given  to  the  PyrHhrum  inodorwHt 
and  in  Swedento  the  Anthemis  cotula  9  The  latter 
is  the  English  mayweed.  The  first  mentioa  of 
this  flower  occurs  in  the  Edda  of  Snorri  (lee 
Blackwcll's  edition  of  Mallet's  Northern  Ant^m- 
tieny  p.  418),  where  it  is  spoken  of  as  ''the  whiteit 
of  all  flowers.''  The  woza  hrd  is  pronounced  like 
our  brow  J  and  does  not  properly  rhyme  witii  ffrm. 

The  Cornell  Univeraity,  Ithaca,  U.S. 

" Celtic"  v.  "Kbltic"  (4»*  S.  ix.  277.)-I 
was  very  pleased  to  read  the  remarks  of  jtm 
correspondent  Y.  S.  M.  on  pedantic  speUing.  I 
observe  with  regret  that  Mr.  Cox,  in  his  Popdar 
Romancea  of  the  Middle  Affes,  throughout  the 
volume  alters  the  spelling  of  familiar  namei  it 
this  manner.  I  transcribe  from  the  Atkammm, 
Nov.  25,  1871,  the  following  valuable  lerndki  of 
Mr.  J.  Stuart  Blackie  on  this  subject : — 

"  He  speaks  of  the  'fashion  amonif  certain  laiiolMtif 
writinfr  K for  C,  as  in  Keltic  for  Celtic,  Periklea  for  Psi- 
cles,  Kimon  for  Cimon,  and  so  on.  Against  this  innor^ 
tion  tlie  well  known  history  of  the  K^gtiri  Im^hmii 
makes  a  distinct  protest  We  received  the  ortliagMV 
of  our  Greek  proper  names  through  the  Latin,  M  tm^t 
Strabo— not  Platon,  Strabon—- and  maay  aoch  ezai 
show.  Now  J  will  not  ask  whether  it  woald  not 
been  better  to  borrow  Greek  terms  directly 


Greek  :  I  stand  upon  the  fact,  and  maintain  that  htf^ 
for  more  than  300  years,  in  obedience  to  the  U^nW 
genesis  of  our  tonj^ae,  said  Ulvaeei  and  Uecnbiw  tt  1^ 
pears  a  piece  of  idle  and  tastelen  pedantiy  now  Is  life 
ofOdys.<teu8  and  Hccabe.  Eveiy  langoagt  exflffdMltti 
right  of  modifying  proper  names  acoiording  to  Hioifli 
instincts.  The*  (Germans,  in  talkiiMf  of  Mediolmmmm,  m 
Maitand  as  we  saj'  JklUan  ;  and  in  uke  manner  te  Oa* 
stantinopolls  we  say  Constantinople,  for  *A9i|mu  Attain 
an<l  for  Wien  Vienna.  On  what  principle^  thenfcn* 
should  it  be  esteemed  more  proper  to  write  Stalde  tkn 
Celtic  ?  " 

Here  are  a  few  examples  of  this  spelUnff  ftvp 
Mr.  Cox's  above-mentioned  work: — PQoikoib 
Kephalos,  Herakles^  PhiloktStes,  Alnheioa,  AcUl* 
leus,  and  Ilektor.  JoHH  PieaOTi  JH* 

LuisE  Hensel's  NAcnTGBBST  (4*  S.  iL  Itf  i 
ix.  300.) — I  presume  you  will  not  obieet  to  iMfft 
another  translation  of  this  dngaUurly  beavliM 
little  poem,  the  great  commendation  of  whiofc  ^ 
its  perfect  simplicity ;  particularly  when  I  iMBie 
you  that  it  was  done  before  I  had  seen  B£l  Mao- 
rat's  version.  My  tranilatioa  waa  made  vfOA 
the  principle  of  adherinff  closely  to  tlia  origodi 
so  as  to  be  a  literal  rendering  of  the  G«naii^  ■ 
far  as  the  idiom  of  our  kngaage  wonJA  psarib 
I  am  also  a  great  admirer  of  Qttraaa  pMb||«  X 


-.4^ 


LlZ.Anm.  87,7s.} 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


3t» 


I  tfwiaUted  Berer&l  of  Eomei'a  fioest  poems, 
hare  klwsTS   found  that  I  eoeceedad   beet 
nseiring   the  spirit  of  the  original  when  I 
e  tnj  traoalatioQ  most  literal.      In  the  pre- 
Attampt,  if  the  origtoal  ia  referred  to,  it  will 
iiutd  that  almost  everj  line  conveys  the  exact 
» and  wording  of  thia  admiiable  little  pnysr : 
"  JfilAi!  hin  icA.  g<i'  iw  BtiAV'  "■  •-  "■ 
"  Timi  am  T,  and  etek  repOM, 
Both  my  weary  ej-M  I  dOM ; 
father  1  irateh  above  my  hMd, 
I.«t  thine  eyu  be  e'w  my  bed. 
•*  HaTs  I  CTil  done  thU  day  ? 
See  it  not,  dear  God  I  Iprav; 
Tby  rich  grace,  and  Jesa'a  blood 
Wiah  all  xiin  with  UTiag  flood. 
"  Near  and  dear  to  me,  may  thoie 
Id  thT  band,  0  God  !  npoae': 
SoaU  tad  gnat,  let  aU  b  thee. 
Sod  ot  all,  commeDded  b*. 
*  O  relieve  the  aching  bnaat, 
Ooaa  itie  humid  eyes  to  mt; 
Let  the  moon  from  hnTca  look  dovB, 
Silent,  ■liunbeciiig  men  to  crown." 

F.  C.  H. 
la  AXB  CRGtctsi  (4'^  a.  Tiii.  339,  405.)— 
he  halo  about  the  moon,  or  circle,  1>  a  word  wbiel) 
m  borrowed  from  the  Arabic.     Tha  ptoplo  of  thr 
are  Tery  particular  in  their  attention  to  the  moon. 


"  When  Idee  and  horses  lie  with  their  heads 
upon  the  gronnd,  it  i»  a  sign  of  run." — "  When 
cowB  low  to  one  another,  and  are  restless,  a  ttona 
is  close  at  band." — "  If  old  sheep  turn  their  faftck* 
towards  the  wind,  and  stand  so  for  soma  tlmcu 
wet  and  windj  weather  is  coming."  Bheep  wlU 
also  collect  together  with  mnch  bleating  "  whan 
a  thnndn-storm  is  brewing."  If  tpiden  begin  to 
wander  about,  or  to  »pa  and  alter  theli  wob^ 
there  will  "  soon  be  a  change  in  the  weftUtar. 
Hooks  will  Ktom  from  their  feeding-giound  irith 
much  noise  of  "  cawing"  when  a  storm  is  ootBiBg 
on.  People  who  work  out  of  doors  obterve  tfaia, 
and  if  about  to  gosomedisttaee  to  do  worit  wUcb 
requires  fine  weathsa,  will  sar,  "  It's  o'  bo  nw 
eooiu',  ifs  vgooia'  t«i  nen,  tn'  erowa  a'  eocab 


Md  bytbo 

?aDdflgbc 
.  bat  in  so 


le  Tnrka 

iujruriiTg  hope  of  the  futqra  ftilntH  of 
»e  it  for  their  military  udgn.  It  Is 
itt  all  their  matter*  of  mamant  ai« 
tBt«  of  the  moon,  and  Ihij  begin  ari 
o  battle  till  the  new  meon  baa  ahowii 
loin);  thev  ontv  continns  the  anpaiati- 
toldiahabitantaorthejroapdtal;  iIbm 
VinaCanilnuple  tbey  fbend  the  in31u 
ate  left  by  Sorenu,  wbo  rednoed  tlu. 
Tb«tord)-baariDg  Diana 


Taos.  lUiauwwM. 

"Dbfwdb"  (4*  8.  ix.  178,  286.)  — la  tha 

-PormfiM  Zod  of  HUton  we  have  « that^j/WM 

'  fruit,"  •'.«.  "forbidden."    Themnd  "de(^"h 

I  amonfit  countiy  people.  I  hare  heard  tf  to 
I  TorkiAire  and  other  places.  lb  Craren  we  Mrs 
a  phrase  that  is  eridentlrderirtd  from  the  Prendi 
or  Norman.  W*i«j  "That's  uotprtUj/  of  him," 
J  "Tbat'snotajir(Myact,"Jt«.  This  use  of  "  pretty" 
'  is  eridentlj  the  same  as  in  the  TWch  phniae 
;  "N'a(tpasjWi"  ° ' 


r  Iioua  (i*  S. 
wiaia^OuibiB 
ntlwatMNPeiit 


hipped  at  By»an 


•t  the  Blac« 


sieged  it  by  the  light  < 
he  eoina  of  Byzantiun 
cum  aagitta,  pgna  pha 
Va  the  reverse,  'BnANTIflN  Lima  oiMoan 
ftto:  {M.  %  3,  Bcger,  Eckhe!,  UcaiKr,  Ub.  xti.  1%. 
om  the  asms  aource  came  the  name  of  Boaporian 
i^^it>»,  or  the  light  of  Hecate,  ^ew^poi,  whi 
ii«  place  lij-  diacoTorinc  the  bede^iera.  See  Eoata 
ad  B.  H3{  Dionva.  Orh.  t>—eript:%  aee  on  thi 
If  the  Ar^cidt,  Anacea  nv..  J^raimtM  Iv.,  a  atai 
woeot  b*hinrt  the  head."— fVi^a»*iift  o/Orinlw 
a»,  by  Stephen  Wteton,  RD,  1807,  pp.  6S-S. 


'bihp  of  Matcilun,  wl 
<on.  Hence  you  tee 
t  Dianas,  ante  quod  a 


iie  copy  of  Vaillant'n  ArtaadarMa  /nparwiii, 
ifore  me,  it  is  the  "  Nummus  Anacia  Hithri- 
it"  to  which  thia  description  is  at  all  ap> 
e.  "Ante  rnput  in  area  astrun,  pone  rero 
isLunacemitur."  (1.106.) 

BiBiioTHBoaK.  Ghetziv. 

iiHBB  LoRB  {4'»  S.  U.  174,  2e7.>-I  hare 
nown  some  similar  ssjln^  wUeh  ma; 
t  Uw  weather-wise  reodws  of  "N,  ft  Q." 


LxADBBsaip  o?  set  Bonai  or  Iioua  (i* 
is.  381;  808.}— I  presume  t]w  printer  isi 
for  the  two  grare  errors  inrolred  in  t) 
thai""  -  — 

Irish  psoagM  of  Eeny  and  lixnaw  date  b«na" 
1181,'' fi>r  LoKS  Lnnuov  must  know  that  tiie 
Barldom  of  Derbj  belongs  to  the  peerage  of  Ay- 
laad,  and  that  tlie  old  Irish  baronr  of  £eiT7  was 
»  mere  baronj  bf  taaure  whieh  foUowad  the  snc-- 
oeoaian  to  the  estataa,  and  did  not  eotutituta  an 
iieraditarj  parliamentary  peaxage.  Tswiia. 


iffiitaph  quoted  tij  Mb.  ] 
Mme/ieArr  GuanUm  of  October  18,  187a  ti  at 
Little  Stukelye,  in  Bnntingdon shire.  It  waa 
written  on  the  Rer.  Joshua  WaterhoaM,  BJ}.,«b 
eccentric   dergjman   of  i 


olio  was  barbutinslj  ainidarad  ua  Ui  vlaar^  in 
the  year  1897,  at  the  admtoad  ^  ef  alghiy  tm 
yean,  bj  a  young  man  nanad  Josbn  Bwa,  iri|« 
^ras  afterwards  cooriotad  and  axacatad  In  tba 
rrime.  littla  SbUEslo;  is  ohost  finr  tmlea  friMi 
Huntingdon,  and  mqst  Ukalr  Bda^  Kaaa  M 
t<«en  the  e^taph  In  hia  ntmblaaL 

Jobs  FnsnBB,  KA. 
Hnn^ta  Straat,  Flabarin^ 

'ni«^ta>hinfcttocoiHiBS**aLi«a.  am 

aM8<«S.r)LU.  JooiaB^IIA. 


350 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4tkS.IX.  AnuLlT.TL 


RizzT  AND  Pelli  (4»^  S.  ix.  301.)— Mr.  PhiUips, 
in  his  Dictionary  of  Biographical  Reference,  18/1, 
8yo,  refers  the  reader  wantdng  particulars  oi 
Stefano  Rizzi,  Italian  painter,  to  KUnstler-Lexi' 
am  (Nagler,  Miinchen,  1836-52,  22  vols.  8vo), 
and  Lanzi,  Storia  Pittorica  della  Italia  (Milano, 
1824-6, 4  vols.  8vo).  I  am  unable  to  find  any  ac- 
count of  this  painter  in  the  numerous  bio^aphical 
dictionaries  and  other  likely  works  which  I  have 
consulted.     This  applies  to  Pelli  also. 

J.  P.  Briscoe. 

Nottingham. 

If  G.  E.  means  Rizi,  not  Rizzi,  ho  will  find  an 
account  of  two  brothers  of  that  name,  and  also  a 
short  notice  of  Marco  Pelli,  in  Stanley's  edition  of 
Bryan  8  Dictionary  of  Painters  and  Bngravers, 
published  by  Bohn  in  1841.  Jaydbe. 

Tub  Bug  Family  (4*  S.  ix.  279.)— Perhaps  it 
is  worth  noting ^that  in  Brand's  Popular  An- 
tiqitities  (Bohn's  ed.,  iii.  86),  a  derivation  of  bar- 
gidd  is  given  as  from  A.-S.  hwrh  and  gd»t.  It  does 
seem  to  be  a  town- haunter.    John  Addis,  M.A. 


^tifcenaneautf. 

NOTES  ON  BOOKS,  ETC. 

Chronica  Magistri  Rogeri  de  Hoveden.  Edited  bv  Wil- 
liam Stubbs,  M.  A.,  Regius  Professor  of  Modem  llistory 
in  the  University  of  Oxford,  drc. 

Monumenta  Juridica,  The  Black  Book  of  the  Admiralty ^ 
with  an  Appendix.  Edited  by  Sir  Travers  Twiss,  Q.C., 
D.C.L.,  &c. 

Calendar  of  State  Papers.  Foreign  Series  of  the  Reign  of 
Elizabethf  1566-8,  preserved  in  the  State  Paper  De- 
partment of  Her  Majesty* s  Public  Record  Office.  Edited 
oy  Allan  James  Crosby,  Esq.,  B.A.,  Oxon,  Barrister-at- 
Law. 

Calendar  of  the  Carew  Manuscripts  preserved  in  the 
Archiepiscopal  Library  at  Lambeth.  Edited  by  J.  S. 
Brewer,  M.A.,  and  William  Bullen,  Esq. 

Owing  to  the  very  limited  space  which  we  are  enabled 
to  devote  to  our  literary  noticea,  we  find  that  the  valuable 
series  of  books  illustrative  of  our  national  annals,  pub- 
lished by  authority  of  the  Treasury,  and  under  the  direc- 
tion of  Lord  Koniilly,  are  too  often  unavoidably,  not  to 
say  nndnly,  laid  aside  to  make  room  fur  books  of  less 
value,  but  more  immediate  and  pr&<Hint  interest.  To  our 
regret  we  now  see  no  less  than  four  of  tiicsc  volumes  on 
our  table  for  notice,  all  of  them  deserving  of  separate  and 
detailed  account ;  but  all  of  them,  we  are  bound  sav*  bear- 
ing on  their  face  such  evidence  of  their  nature,  value,  and 
utility  as  ^to  render  any  such  details  unnecessary  to  re- 
commend them  to  the  attention  of  historical  students. 
In  the  fourth  volume  of  Hoveden^  with  which  the  Oxford 
Regius  Professor  of  Modern  History,  brings  to  a  close  his 
labours  on  that  important  chronicle — important  more 
especially  for  his  own  immediate  period,  namely,  the 
latter  years  of  Richard  and  the  earlier  ones  of  John— a 
preface  full  of  instruction,  illustrative  not  only  of  the 
chronicler  and  his  times  but  of  our  constitutional'progress, 
is  followed  by  the  conclusion  of  the  Chronicle,  and  this 
by  an  Index  of  Geographical  Forms,  and  this  again  by  a 
General  Index,  of  the  fulness  and  completeness  of  which 
the  reader  may  form  a  pretty  accurate  opinion  when  we 
say  that  it  occupies  nearly  200  pages. 


A  bare  enumeration  of  the  contents  of  the  tint  volm 
of  the  Black  Book  of  the  Admiralty,  edited  by  SirTrtvn 
Twisi*,  will  serve  to  show  ita  valae  and  importiiMB. 
These  are— The  Old  Rules  for  the  Lord  AdminL  nl 
Instructions  for  the  Lord  Admiral  in  the  Time  of  Wtr; 
Rules  and  Orders  abont  Admiralty  Matters ;  Lain  of 
Oleron;  Inquisition  of  Qneenboroogh ;  OrdoJudkiom; 
De  Officio  Admiralitatis;  Ordinances  of  War;  Wagvof 
Battle ;  De  Materia  Dudli,  and  an  ioteneating  Anpiraz 
on  the  Admiralty  of  Sir  Thomas  Beaafort,  0ub  of 
Exeter,  &c. 

The  volume  of  Calendar  of  State  PmerM  of  Iht  Ttaf 
(f  Elizabeth  (Foreign  Series)  is  the  work  of  a  new  editor, 
Mr.  Allan  Crosby,  a  gentleman  who  has  asiisted  tbi 
Rev.  Joseph  Stevenson  in  the  preparation  of  the  piujadl^K 
volumes  of  the  series,  and  shows  by  his  care  and Jidg- 
ment,  that  he  has  turned  to  good  account  the  exponoDoe 
which  he  gained  under  the  guidance  of  his  leamsd  V^ 
decessor.  Mr.  Crosby*8  prefkce  is  brief,  modeal*  aal  ti 
the  purpose. 

The  volume  of  the  Calendar  of  the  Carew  Mmtmt^ 
is  devoted  to  an  account  of  the  miscellaneous  MSS.tobo 
found  among  the  Carew  Papers  at  Lambeth.    Oba  1& 
alone  is  sufficient  to  attest  the  value  and  intezeat  of  tUi 
collection.    We  allude  to  "  The  Book  of  Howthf'trkkfc 
is  supposed  to  have  been  written  by  Walter  Bo«th; 
who  **  was  of  the  age  of  fivescore  years  and  sevoo  on^ 
died,  and  was  as  perfect  in  his  wits  at  his  Utt  as  he  vii 
in  his  youth.''    Be  this  as  it  may  be,  <<The  Book  « 
Howth"  makes  the  present  volume  a  very  iiituuijijil 
one ;  and  students  of  Irish  histoir  are  greatly  indom 
to  the  accomplished  gentlemen  by  whom  it  hat  buft 
edited,  for  an  important  addition  to  their  storMof  ift" 
formation. 

TuE  family  of  the  late  Rev.  F.  D.  Maubicb  villb* 
very  grateful  to  any  friends  who  will  intrust  Ham  wtt» 
letters,  as  an  aid  in  the  preparation  of  a  memoir.  Ib^ 
letters  will  be  copied  and  returned.  Any  directioM  •■>* 
with  them,  as  to  the  extent  to  which  diey  may  bl  tf^" 
ployed,  will  be  carefully  attended  to.  The  lettn  w*^ 
be  sent  to  Mr.  F.  Maurice,  R.A.,  the  TerraoOb  ^^^' 
Town,  Farnborough  Station,  Hants ;  or  to  Mb.  CL  0* 
Madkice,  21,  Beaumont  Street,  Marylebone. 

The  British  Museum  will  be  closed  from  the  littottB^ 
7th  of  May,  both  days  inclusive. 


^atitti  to  CorteitfpoiillfntiC. 

We  have  been  compelled  to  poUpome  until  next  weAi 
Papers  of  great  interesty  Notes  on  Books,  Sce^  wAai  Vfi 
give  a  3'2-page  number. 

Capt  Samuel  King*s  Xarratits  (amii^  pp. 
309). — A  valued  correspondent  hoe  directed  emr  aiH-^^^ 
to  some  MS,  additions  and  amendtmenti  to  0/ib^f  *A^^ 
of  Sir  Walter  Raleigh  "  {by  the  cmthor  hmtJf\  »  »^ 
copy  of  Raleigh^s  History  of  the  World,  Lond. 
in  the  King^s  Library  at  fAe  Briiiak  Mt 


amendments  do  not  throw  any  further  Ug^  on  OapL  ^'^^ 
Narrative,  but  to  passages  in  pp.  5,  26,  2^  84^  72, 87,  U^^ 
of  Oldys's  Life  of  Raleigh. 

C.  W.  Penny  (Wellington  ColleKe).^7%e  fljr***j 
tided  "*  The  Seven  Joys  of  Mary,**  widk  the  wnuk,  ttJi**^ 
in  the  Christmas  Carols^  New  and  Old,  ediOd  by  mM0^ 
JL  R.  Bramley,  1872,  p.  28. 

W.  D.  B.  (Reepham).— 7^« jmolalioii  «'2te«a,  wMiiMr 
down,**  occurs  in  Shakespeare,  hAng  Lear,  Afit  ILflfl.^' 

Cyril.— For  the  derivation  of  FHrt  etmndt  "•  N.  AQ-' 

2"<i  S.  iii.  361 ;  ix.  442 ;  z.  60. 

W.  R.  Hopper  (Sunderland).— T^t  phmat,  *M^ 
mark,**  has  been  explained  ae  nfirriag  A  idbsrf.   'vi* 


[l87,7S.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


351 


_a  jnliet.  Art  III. 
it  o(  Venice,  Art  II. 


ark"  oeam  tinee  in  SAoJieqmr*,  King 

I,  Art  I.  8c.  8  1   Eomeo  r--"  T^u-f    * 
Jad  tUtt  tit  mari,"  Hercbi 
IwUa,  Art  I.  Sc  I. 
}EOSO«  Walkbe.— TAt  puHgrs  o/  tte  Qirno 

Btddingtim  ii  yi««  «•  afowuiij  oiiif  flmir'i 
.  688;  Btrry'i  County  tieaeatc«[es,  p«rt  i.; 
c«l  and  Heraldic  Memoranda  reUting  to  tha 

Surrey  (Snney  ArchBOlogic«I  Socie^.  voL  i.)i 
«nded  Gentry,  iv.  2,  3,  i. 

Wakefield)  .—TAe  liiia  art  by  Cokridgi,  The 
Uriner,  pirt  v. 

Watbob  (BeWuit).—J.Kirlipalrick,  M.I>^  WM 
f  Cir/ow.     flu  word.  The  Sea-Plece,  1760,  it  n. 


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HOMBO.V,  SATUEDA  r,  MAY  4. 1 
CONTESTS^S'.  -iil. 


oii(tli»m  snd  hii  fiiei 


ES ;  —  Rir  Robert  4)  ioiin  —  Bmnran-dw  -  Bkliop 
Iry'a  GUiit  —  BurfcclMi:  ChnkV— Wm.  Dimoinl — 
i»iy.  or  U»rk»  -  fnriKn  -  U«/  Fnwa  uf  Brw- 
<--Hi>toiru  (lu  MtDti"-Irl>h  famiUea  — -Tha 
.  G«p  "  -  l*ird  c.f  CullltUm  -  Ur.  LiBnum  -  ■•  liiieB 
Uoth"—  Muutbr.Doj  —  Hauulic  ImentoriM — 
ilh,  fW  Kame  -  ■■  Ob."  an  I»l»iiil-  P»le»'«  Eniliu.iit 
1  — l^rtrwiaraLaOf  uaintLilfor  Rurko— Thi- Etrl 
Laurrnt,  Canada  —  tjhaw'i  BUfT.irdnbin  MSS.— 
tichard  Ijelbj  —  Sntiona  Papers.  SS», 
eSi—  Fle<'tvood  Iloum,  Stoku  Kfwington.  SM- 
na|AicPriii(i'iK.ai>3-Jol]nL>ii,/&— Kaa'iUit.Hia- 
r  Ibe  Pr(«b;tery  of  IVnpaiit,  3««— Sir  UoyJc  Bocbe. 
The  Liteiwj  forEeriM  of  Faurmaiit.  368  —  Leader- 
<  tha  HouM  o(  ribnb  —  Arnia  of  Prince  Buperl  ~~ 
"       ......       TheBall 


■I  laiiidcm  "  —  Bvv.  Juhn  Mou 


■a  B,  Walker  - 
-Lilly  Kitty  H;ds 


"  bceht,"  "  doohf,"  "  atondjht ''  for  "  bceth  (is), 
doth,  standcUi " ;  ee  for  e,  hs  "  thee  "  man  ;  and  yt 
for  1,  ae  "  byinde  "  for  ■'  binde."  The  MS.  origin- 
allj  beenn  witli  the  Canterbury  Tales,  nnd  was 
regularly  signed  from  o  to  :,  23  sheets.  The 
scribe  then  put  3  sheets  of  Clo^rer'a  Tales,  &c., 
before  the  Cfanterburj  Tales,  said  numbered  the 
MS.  all  through,  from  1  to  3(1,  niakiuR  the  original 
first  sheet,  a,  number  3.  The  obowiuable  binder 
has  cut  off  almost  all  the  signatures  and  numbers 
of  the  sheets,  but  enougb  are  left  to  enable  one  to 
make  out  the  structure  of  the  MS.  All  Chaucer 
dtudents  will,  I  am  iiur^,  join  me  in  thanking 
Lord  Delamcre  fi>r  allowiii);  his  MS.  to  be  exa- 
mined nnd  identified.  A  detailed  description  fol- 
lows. F.  J.  FcHfllVALL. 

Lord  Delumcrt's  US.  of  Early  Engliih  Potlry. 
(Lraf  1,  coptcnte:  %  modem  copy  of  a  portrait  of 


,r.) 


1  Egypt. 


floxti. 
D  DELAMiiRE'S  MS.  OF -THE  CASTEE- 

BL'UV  lALES." 
1  Zouuhe  hnving  told  me  that  Lord  Dcla- 
lad  a  Chaucer  MS.,  I  applied  to  tiw  latt 
>r  a  sight  of  it.  It  was  iben  at  bis  seat,  I 
Coyal,  Cheshire,  but  he  has  kindly  brought  i 
B.  up  this  season,  and  let  me  havO  it  for 
iHtiiiu.  The  MS.  proves  to  ba  that  which 
hy  Thurans  described  in  his  pref{ice  to  Urry's  I 
et  as  beloi]<nng  to  Mr.  Cholniondelcy  of  I 
toyal,  wbose  descendant  Lord  Delameie  is. 
a  double-columned  parchment  folio,  about 
I. D,  which  has  lost  '.ii  leaves  in  dillerent 
if  the  Toluino,  of  which  ^S  are  unluckily  out 

Canterbury  Tales ;  moreover,  some  of  the 
jid   last  leaves   are  much  stained  and  de- 

Tha  MS.  contains  S  storifs  from  Gower's 
i$iii  AmmUu,  a  Speculum  Miaericordut  in 
■h,  the  Canterhory  Tales  (less  3— the  Wife's, 
I,  and  Ijuinmaners, — and  legs  several  Links, 
portion  of  tbe  Prologue,  and  uf  the  Clerk's, 
lin's,  and  Second  Nun's  Tales,  but  with  the 
us  Qanielyn,  3  spurious  Ijoka,  and  4  spuri- 
oes  after  I'liopas-Melibfl  link);  the  story  of 
ihadnetzar,  the  adulterous  Falmouth  Squire, 
til  part  of  the  romance  of  I'arthenope,  the 
IB  of  Tundale  (less  4  leaves),  and  two  bits  of 
>.  The  spelling  of  tbe  HS..  U  curioua  in 
cases :  it  puta  All  for  th  in  Uie  third  singular. 


atoiy  of  Joseph  settling  Jaeob  ii 
1  mi.  luiicli  ataineii,  leaf  3. 

2.  Gower's  lolu  of  the  Tlir«  Quentinns,  or  Petmnella  & 

Klnc  Alpboiiaf,  vol.  i,  p.  H5  of  PaiiU's  e<Utioa— 
ll(fre  bf)-gyiinilit  a  irorthv  Ihvns 
Ur  (three)  qiiestionys  at  a  iyn^.—V.  3,  col.  il. 

3.  Uon-er'a  talc  of  Progne  &  I'hilumene,  vol.  ii.  p.  318, 

IlKrflbe»g}'nnvhtprogiie&phelaaiene,  ir.u,bk.,«>l.iL 

b.  Theer  wai  a  Ityntt  nuble  k.vag 

'.  I  preye  Co  god  Vuyre  niole  va  bftallc 
i.  tioirer'a  tale  of  Alexander,  vol.  iii.  p.  i>  I ,  rd.  Paull. 

b.  Theehevghe  Creature  of  tlivnggis.  If.  S,  bk.,eo1.L 
5.  Uo}Ter'8  tale  of  Philip  of  Maeedon,  vol.  i.  p.  213.  ed. 


Wit; 


Pauli. 
Len  tin. 


lofPrm 


CA  line  and  a  luitf  at  (he  end  of  a  short  added  conclu- 
tiiin  sre  vraatin^.) 
C.  (iovrer's  tnle  of  Sir  Adriau,  vol.  ii.  293,  ed.  Pauli. 

b.  To  apeko  of  an  vnkynde  man.  If.  13,  col.  ii. 
-    ih..„.    fl  will"  Ibis  akrlplureklepad  bee 
'■  '"""'   1  Speculum  UiKTieordie,— If.  14,  Ilk. 

b.  In  a  nierrie  Morewynyn^e  of  May 

c.  And  vi'lA  that  ward  iiecyafup  the  goosf. 

(A  man  out  for  a  walk  aecs'a  borne,  tbrov  bis  ridei 
iicninat  a  tree,  and  split  his  akull.  To  bim  come  the  lady 
Oiacritin  and  seven  Virtue* ;  each  speaks  to  him,  and  he 
anawers  her,  and  repent)  bis  sini ;  dies  and  i>  saved.) 
S.  Chaucer's  Canterbury  Tales,  inreinpli-te  and  out  of 
order,  containing  these  groupa  «id  aectioua :  — 
A  §  1.  Proloffue.bcRlns  at  1.177,  Monk:  "Heeyafnowt 
of  tbe  teMe  a  pulled  ben,"  If.  20. 

2.  Knight'a  Tale,  If.  23,  oil.  i. 

3.  Knight.Uiller  link.  If.  3li,  bk. 
*.  «iller'aTale,lf.S7,  col.  If. 

.'>.  Hillar-Reevs  link.  If.  41,  bk. 
e.  Reeve's  Tale,  if.  42,  enl.  i. 

7.  Reeve-Cook  link.  If.  44,  bk. 

8.  Cook'i  Tala,  iDcampleU  a*  UMUl,  1'.  4S,  col.  I. 
Sjiuriinu  Gamelyn  (no  link). 

B     S3.  Maa-otLaw^ipqian  link,  If.  61,  csL  L 
F     1 2.  Sqain's  Tsla,  If.  SI,  ad.  ti. 

g  3.  Sqaiie-FraakUn  Unk,  If.  6B,  bk. 
E     §5.  UenikatfklU«,ir.U,bk. 


354 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«S.IX.Uat4»*;1 


E 


B 
B 


B     §  1.  Man  of  Ltw*8  headlink,  If.  68,  col.  i. 

2. ^Tale,  If.  63,  bk.  col.  ii. 

1.  Wife  of  Bath*8  Preamble,  If.  70,  col.  ii.,  omits  the 
4  frequent  omissions,  and  is  imperfect ;  ends 
with  **  lucia  likcrous  louede  hiere  hoasbonde 
boo"  {Wifes,  Friar' t,  and  Summmer't  Talet 
out,  and  part  of  Clerk\  1 1  leaves.) 
§  2.  Clerk's  Tale  imperfect,  begins  **  For  yit  alwaj 
thee  peple  sumwhat  dn^de,"  If.  75.  In  the 
Envoy  the  last  stanza  is  made  the  last  but  one. 
SpuriouM  link :  **  I  have  a  wyif  though  sche  pore  be," 

If.  81,  bk. 
F     §  4.  Franklin's  Tale,  If.  81,  bk.  (a  leaf  out  between 

84and8o). 
G     §  1.  Second  Nun's  Tale,  If.  86,  col.  ii.  (leaf  out  be- 
tween 86  and  87). 

&  2.  Canon's  Yeoman's  link.  If.  88,  bk. 

§  8.  Canon's  Yeoman's  1  alo.  If.  88,  bk.,  col.  ii. 
Spurious  link :  '*  Whanne  that  this  yoman,"&c.,lf.  94, bk. 

col.  ii. 
C     J  1.  Doctor's  Tale,  If.  96. 

§  2.  Doctor-Panloner  link.  If.  97  (rj'mcs  advocase 
allasc,  bewtec  see,  nature  creature,  now  prow). 
I  3.  Pardoner's  Preamble,  If.  97,  col.  ii. 

I  4.  — ^ Tale,  If.  98,  col.  i.   (no   spurious 

Herod-lines). 
Spurious  link :  "  Now  freendis  sevde  Owre  Oostc  so  dere,** 
If.  101,  col.  ii. 
§  4.  Shipman's  Tale,  If.  101,  bk. 
^  5.  Shipman-Prioress  link,  If.  101,  col.  ii. 

6.  Prioress's  Tale,  If.  104,  col.  ii. 

7.  Prioreas-Thopas  link,  If.  106,  col.  ii. 

8.  Sir  Thopas,  If.  100,  col.  ii. 
§  9.  Thopas-Mclibe  link.   If.  107,  bk.  col.  i.  (four 

spurious  lines). 

G  Hero  Endyht  Chancers  tale  of  sire  thopos 
A  dowghtty  knyght  in  alle  his  dcde 
(lOd  vs  helpe  and  seynt  Thomas 
And  graunte  va  alle  grace  weel  to  spedo. 
B   §  10.  Melibe,  If.  108  (with  the  2  usual  omissions). 
I  11.  Melibe-Monk  link.  If.  121,  bk. 
§  12.  Monk,  If.  12  (the  4  modern  instances  are  in  their 
right  place,  after  Zcnobia,  but  have  bt^n  re- 
written at  the  en«l  from  an  "edited  MS"). 
^  13.  Monk-Nun's- Priest's  link,  If.  128,  ctd.  i. 
4  14.  Nun's-Priest's  Tale,  lit  128,  coL  ii.  (lias  no  end 
link). 
§  2.  Manciple's  Tale,  If.  132,  bk. 
§  1.  Parson's  head-link,  If.  134,  col.  ii. 
§  2. ^Tale,  If.   134,  bk.  (has  the  Retracta- 
tions). 
0.  Ilic  incipit  Nabugodonosor,  If.  1 58  (not  Gower'a), 
b.  The  heyhr  all-mygtty  god  of  purviaunce 
e.  To  wh(im  no  man  may  been  felawe. 

10.  The  adulterous  Falmouth  S<|uire,  printed  in  my  PoUti- 

caly  ReligiouM,  and  Lore  Poems,  1806,  p.  9<J-r02,  witli 
some  ad(Ic<l  lines  at  the  end,  but  without  the  Pro- 
logue, "Sir William  liasterdfeld's  Warning,"  p.93- 

h.  Man  of  tliy  myschof  thee  amende 
e.  In  heuene  hlisse  wit/i-outen  ende. 

11.  Pertinope,  a  fragment  of  7  colnmns;  the  2nd  chapter 

not  rightly  placed  (see  the  Roxb.  Club  edition, 
1862).  ' 

b.  Whilum  ther  was  a  noble  kyng,  If.  164,  col.  ii. 
e.  Thee  folke  thav  iovnede  for  h'evghe  they  hade. 

12.  The  Visions  of  Tundale"(ed.  Tumbull,  1843),  4  leaves 

are  wanting  between  leaves  174  and  175,  containing 
lines  1483-2000  of  TumbuU's  edition. 
6.  O  lord  of  myghtis  most,  If.  166,  bk. 
e,  (Saythe  amen  for)  seeynt  cherite. 


JI 
1 


18.  About  37  lines  of  a  poem  on  a  dead  BarfMi  mbm 
6y,  of  "  Aleste  zxx<i  M(Tlis)  from  ATTone,"  vhat 
ghost  appears  to  his  wilt.    The  finl  171iMi«» 
nearly  illegible, 
e.  With  thee  priour  fortte  talke. 


FOLK  LORE :   PINS. 

The  magical  uses  of  pins  have  not  attncted  flit 
attention  the  subject  deserves.  There  is  no  das 
of  superstition  more  widely  spread — none  thatii 
to  this  hour  more  firmly  rooted  in  the  mindfl  of 
our  more  ignorant  poor. 

In  the  year  1858  I  pulled  down  an  old  oott^s 
in  this  Tillage,  about  two  hundred  yards  from  isf 
housei  and  m  the  earth,  near  the  foundatioD  of 
the  walls,  five  or  six  bottles  were  found  contttft* 
ing  human  hair,  pius,  needles,  and  a  fostid  flnii 
Similar  discoveries  are  frequently  made  in  tUi 
neighbourhood,  and,  if  I  am  not  mistaken,  in  muj 
other  parts  of  the  island.    I  should  notbenff- 
prised  at  any  time  to  hear  that  the  old  orthodtf 
waxen  manikin  stuck  full  of  pins  was  jret  in  vH 
for  purposes  of  revenge.    It  is  indeed  only  I9 
inverted   form  of  the   superstition    of  "horiir 
chrisma  "— t.  e.  the  anointing  the  instrument  ui^ 
has  given  the  wound  in  the  hope  that  the  hitf^ 
itself  may  be  cured  thereby.    Tnis  nooseiiM  ha^ 
not  been  driven  out  of  the  practice  of  a  leana^ 
profession  more  than  about  a  hundred  and  fift^ 
years.    Curing  by  applying  medicines  to  the  ia**^ 
strument  that  gave  tne  wound,  and  injuring  \^ 
hurting  the  representation  or  sign  of  the  penon  1^ 
whom  you  wish  ill,  are  really  one  anpeiatitioD^ 
and  can,  I  believe,  be  traced  in  almost  everroNnK' 
try  on  the  globe.     The  pin  device  is  ]^bably  Hi^ 
commonest  form  of  it,  as  it  is  the  eaneet  to'iBi~  ^ 
age  secretly.    Sir  John  Lubbock  tells  as  (oili 
Dubois,  347)  that  the  manikin  suparatition  e~' 
in  India  just  as  we  used  to  have  it  here,  only 
thorns  are  used  as  piercing  instnunenta.    It  a 
that  for  the  charm  to  take  proper  effect  it 
necessary  that  the  name  of  the  person  to  beinj 
should  be  written  upon  the  imitfe^s  braait* 

A  superstition  £eir  more  revolting  than  iUi 
practised  in  Iceland.    If  there  be  any  fear  f  " 
a  man  will  walk  after  his  death,"  pina  and  w^ 
are  thrust  into  the  feet  of  the  corpee.    An 
native  and  far  less  disgusting  remedT  ia  to  diii^ 
a  nail  into  a  dead  man*s  tomb  in  the  intarral  f^''^ 
passes  between  the  reading  of  the  Epiatle  and 
Gospel.t    There  are  many  instanoea  on  raeoid 
persons  vomiting  pins.    Here  ia  one  of  tha 
lOOG:— 


"  This  year  there  was  a  genttowomsn,  aad 
woman  to  Doctor  Holland*!  wUSb,  reetor  of  Esoa 
in  Oxford,  strangely  po— essed  and  befwitdied^  so  tlMt 
her  fits  she  cast  oot  or  her  nose  and  nooth  plas  la 

~*  Onain  of  aoUiMtitkm,  lU. 

t  Icdandie  Legaids  elai,  bm  Am 
Gso.  E.  J.  JPowtS  ojur  ^Hkr 

p.  IxtfL 


'« • 


:jdii 


4»  8.  IX.  M*T  *,  7S.] 


NOTES  AND  QUBKIES. 


3S5 


rob  en 


-Diary  of  fValltr  Yotigt  IfitmitD.  Sociely), 
p.  II. 

Wbaterer  people  of  those  days  might  think, 
wd  shall,  I  suppose,  all  a^ee  that  the  ladj  could 
not  have  vomited  the  pins  if  she  had  not  firet 
■wallowed  tfaeni.  It  seems  probable  that  the 
object  for  which  pins  nera  swallowed  vm  to 
wound  the  evil  spirit  with  which  the  swallower 
believed  herself  to  be  possessed. 

Aboutsixty  years  ago,  there  was  a  place  on  the 
weet  side  of  Ilardwick  Hill,  in  the  parish  of  Scot- 
ton,  neat  here,  called  Pin  Hill.    At  this  spot 

a  mound,  about  the  aize  of  a  heap  of  gravel  T 
road  side,  mainly  composed  of  pins  and  bri 
tobacco  pipes.  The  pins  were  olach  from 
poaure  to  the  weather,  but  were  not  brittle,  nor 
did  they  differ,  according  to  my  informantB,  in 
any  other  way  from  common  pins. 

The  story  in  the  neighbourhood  was  that  a  ship 
laden  with  pins  had  been  wrecked  there — a  thing 
quite  impossible,  SB  any  one  who  knows  the 
county  will  testify.  The  heads  of  pipe^,  I  am 
infonned,  were  about  the  size  of  the  tip  of  a  little 
finger,  and  some  of  them  had  shanks  about  an 
inch  long.  The  knobs,  below  the  heads,  I  am 
told,  were  as  wide  as  the  heads  themaelves. 

"Why  theae  tbinfis  were  deposited  on  Scotton 
Common,  I  am  quite  unable  to  say,  but  we  shall 
not  be  far  wrong  in  concluding  that  there  was 
some  good  magical  reason  for  it.  I  have  heai'd  of 
similar  pin-henps  in  other  places,  but  cannot  call 
to  mind  ibe  particulars. 

A  delusion  nearly  allied  to  wax  image-making 
and  pin-swallowing  is  the  notion,  that  if  you  draw 
blood  of  a  witch,  if  it  be  done  ever  so  sliifhtly,  you 
are  ever  afterwards  free  from  her  ma^rical  powut.  A 
ease  was  tried  at  Taunton  assizes  in  181 1,  whore  this 
feeling  was  fully  brought  out.  Betty  Townsend, 
a  reputed  witch,  was  indicted  for  obtnining  money 
from  a  child  under  the  following  circumstances : 
The  prosecutor,  Jacob  Poole,  a  labourer  living  at 
Taunton,  was  in  the  hahit  of  sending  his  daugbter, 
a  girl  of  thirteen,  with  apples  in  a  bosket  to  the 
•  market  there.  One  day  the  witch  met  the  child, 
and  asked  to  see  what  she  had  in  the  basket. 
'When  she  had  examined  its  contents,  she  said  to 
the  girl,  "  Has't  got  any  money  P "  The  child 
said  "  No."  "  Then,"  replied  the  witch,  "  get 
■ome  for  me,  and  bring  it  to  me  at  the  Castle 
door  (a  pubhc-house)  or  I  will  kill  thee."  The 
girl  was  very  much  frightened  at  such  a  threat 
coming  from  a  witch,  so  she  procured  two  shil- 
lings and  carried  it  to  her.  "  'Tis.  a  good  turn 
tbou  hast  got  it,  or  else  I  would  have  made  thee 
die  by  inches,"  was  the  form  in  which  Betty 
Townsend  tendered  a  receipt.  A  scene  like  this 
was  repeated  seven  times  within  five  months, 
when  at  length  James  Poole,  the  father  of  the 
child,  discovered  that  bis  daughter  had  borrowed 
in  hit  name  the  lennl  tttou  otmoatj  which  ihe 


had  giveo  to  the  witch  of  a  Mr.  Burford,  t,  drag- 
gist  in  the  town.  The  fraud  was  now  found  out,, 
and  Poole's  wife,  taking  another  woman  and  the 

E'lrl  with  her,  went  to  the  witch's  abode.  The 
sg  admitted  that  she  knew  the  girl,  but  sworo- 
that  if  they  dare  accuse  her  she  would  maba 
them  "die  by  inches."  "No,"  said  Mrs.  Poole, 
who  seems  to  have  been  far  more  learned  in  magi- 
cal lore  than  her  daughter,  "  no,  that  thee  shall 
not ;  111  binder  that,  and  she  took  a  pin  froDb 
her  dress,  and  scratched  the  witch  from  her  elbow 
to  her  wrist  in  three  several  places.  Her  idea 
was  evidently  to  draw  blood,  welt  knowing  ftom 
immemorial  tradition  that  if  once  a  drop  of  the 
witch's  blood  was  snilt  her  power  over  them 
would  beat  an  end.  Mrs.  Poole  judged  rightly  in 
this  instance.  The  power  of  Betty  Townsend  had 
certainly  come  to  an  end,  for  the  jury  found  her 
guilty,  andtbejudge  (rsve  her  six  calendar  montba' 
imprisonment,  informing  her  at  the  same  time 
that  it  was  only  her  extremely  old  age  which 
prevented  bim  from  inflicting  the  heaviest  puuiih- 
meut  in  his  power.* 

These  fancies  are  worthy  of  more  attention  than- 
bos  Bver  been  given  to  them.  Nothing  marka  off 
more  distinctly  thinking  people  of  the  pres«:nt  agt- 
from  their  ancestors  and  from  the  unreasoning 
masses  (of  all  ranks)  around  them  now,  than  this . 
strange  belief  in  sympathy.  It  runs  through  all 
ancient  medicine,  and  has  left  its  traces  on  other 
sciences.  Plants  that  had,  or  were  thought  to. 
have,  the  outward  characteristics  of  certain  narls 
of  the  body  were  reckoned  good  for  the  ills  of 
those  parts,  and  medicines  taken  from  the  animal, 
kingdom  were  applied  more  as  signs  of  cortain> 
supposed  qualities  (as  in  heraldry)  than  from  any- 
inherent  medical  properties  they  were  supposed  to. 
contain.  A  herb  which  had  grown  on  tlae  boadi 
of  a  statue,  if  tied  up  in  red  thread,  would  rare: 
the  headache ;  and  a  sore  on  the  eyelids,  like  a 
barley-corn  in  shape,  might  be  healed  by  taking 
nine  grains  of  barlev,  and  poking  the  sore  with 
each  while  certain  cliarm-words  were  said ;  then, 
the  nine  grains  must  be  thrown  away,  and  ths. 
ceremony  repeated  with  seven,  five,  three,  and. 
one  in  succession. t  An  immenao  mnsa  of  facta 
relating  to  these  subjects  has  been  {garnered  dur- 
ing the  last  century,  but  at  present  little  has  been, 
attempted  towards  arrangement.  Something  itl. 
the  way  of  a  digest  is  wanted  that  aball  give  ua 
the  bends  oF  what  is  known  as  to  the  folk  lore  oC: 
the  Teutonic,  Latin,  and  Keltic  peoples.  It  i^. 
too  much  to  hope  that  such  a  work  will  ever  be. 
undertaken  by  one  of  our  own  countrymen,  but  £ 
should  not  be  suiprised  if  Germany  were  soma 
day  to  supply  the  deficiency. 

In  the  Museum  of  the  Society  of  Antiquaries  of 
Scotland  there  is  preserved  a  cairs  heart  stuck 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*k8.IX.  VATi.'Tl 


nearly  full  of  pins,  which  was  formerly  used  as  a 
charm  against  witchcraft.  It  was  discovered  be- 
neath the  floor  of  an  old  house  nt  Dalkeith,  and 
5 resented  to  the  museum  by  Mr.  J.  Bond  in  1827. 
'he  number  for  reference  is  K.  150. 

Edward  Peacock. 


APOCRYPHAL  GENEALOGY. 

Those  who  are  striving  to  rescue  genealogy  from 
the  degradation  of  ministering  to  vanity,  and  to 
restore  it  to  its  proper  place  as  the  auxiliary  of 
history  and  truth,  will  be  discouraged  by  three 
genealogical  papers  which  were  thought  worthy 
of  insertion  in  ''X.  &  Q."  of  April  0,  187i>. 

1.  The  writer  of  the  elaborate  note  on  "  Weston- 
undor-Lyzard  "  gravely  assumes  that  the  pedigree 
drawn  up  by  Segar  in  1082  for  my  relation  Richard 
Weston,  Earl  of  Portland,  then  Lord  Treasurer 
of  England,  is  a  record  of  historical  value,  whereas 
ho  ought  to  have  detected  at  once  that  it  is  a 
fabrication  of  the  same  class  ns  abounds  in  the 
Peeratje  and  the  Landed  (ieutnjy  and  other  such 
compilations  of  genealogical  mytholog}'. 

Segar  derives  the  Earls  of  Portland  by  an  un- 
broken line  of  knightly  ancestors  from  Reginald 
do  Balliol,  the  Domesday  Ijonl  of  Weston.  But 
it  is  sufficientlv  known  that  lle":inald*8  tenure  of 
Weston  WHS  official  and  not  personal,  for  this 
manor  was  included  in  the  fee  of  the  Sheriff  of 
Shropshire,  and  Reginald  had  acquired  that  shriev- 
alty by  marrying  the  widow  of  Warine  the  pre- 
ceding 'sherifF.  So  far  from  founding  a  family, 
Reginald  resigned  his  ofiice  after  Warine's  son 
came  of  age,  and  his  later  career  is  foreign  to 
Shropshire.  There  is  not  a  particle  of  evidence 
that  ho  had  a  son  named  Hugh,  or  that  the  sub- 
sequent lords  of  Weston  were  in  any  way  con- 
nected with  him. 

As  to  the  family  of  Weston,  it  is  true  that  per- 
sons of  this  namo  held  the  manor  of  Weston- 
under-Lyzard  from  the  Fitz- Alans  in  the  thir- 
teenth century,  but  how  they  were  connected 
with  the  different  families  of  Weston  who  rose  to 
more  or  less  eminence  in  the  fifteenth  century  is 
a  matter  which  remains  to  be  proved.  The  real 
founder  of  the  Earl  of  P()rtland's  family  was 
Richard  Weston,  one  of  Queen  Elizabeth's  judges, 
who  purchased  tlie  manor  of  Skrecms  in  Roxwell, 
and  was  the  grandfather  of  the  first  earl,  but  he 
is  believed  to  have  been  the  grandson  of  a  London 
'citizen  of  unascertained  parentage. 

2.  At  p.  278  a  gentleman  from  the  Department 
of  Science  and  Art  seriously  inquires  for  the 
armorial  bearings  of  eleven  persons,  of  whom 
some  lived,  according  to  his  own  dates,  before 
arms  were  in  use,  and  others  never  can  possibly 
have  existed  at  all.  '^  Sir  John  Rrown  of  Mon- 
tague, Kt,  temp,  Edw.  I.,"  is,  I  presume,  a 
mythical  ancestor  of  Sir  Anthony  Ilrown^  who 


married  the  coheiress  of  Montague,  in  the  rrigs  of 
Henry  VIL  ;  but  it  is  difficult  to  imaffine  bjwbit 
process  such  a  person  as  '^  Sir  John  Harzisoo,  of 
Cumberland,  Knt.,  tenw,  Henry  I.,'*  was  fabri- 
cated. The  county  of  Cumberland  itself  did  not 
exist  under  that  name  before  the  middle  of  the 
reign  of  Henry  H.,  and  names  like  Harrison  and 
Jackson  carry  on  the  face  of  them  the  marks  of  a 
later  origin.  Mr.  Fowke  will  perhaps  explaiA 
how  such  names  would  be  written  in  Latin  i^ 
cords,  and  where  we  may  expect  to  find  the  prooli 
of  any  armorial  bearings  bemg  used  in  England 
during  the  reign  of  Henry  I. 

3.  At  p.  280  we  are  informed,  on  the  anthoritf 
of  Sir  William  Betham,  that  the  famous  Justidaiy 
Hubert  de  Burgh  was  lineally  descended  fioai 
the  mother  of  William  the  Conqueror  by  bar 
marriage  with  "  Harlowe  de  Burgh."  Is  the» 
anyone,  except,  perhaps,  an  Irish  herald,  «bo 
seriously  supposes  that  Ilerlouin  de  Conterillo 
bore  the  namo  of  De  Burgo,  or  had  any  other  ml 
besides  the  two  earls  well  known  in  history? 

Your  contributor  goes  on  to  say  that  HnM 
the  Justiciary  was  the  nephew  of  "  William  fltft* 
Adelm  de  lUirgo,  Lord  Lieut,  of  Ireland."  Thb 
last-mentioned  worthy  is,  I  presume,  intended  fis 
William  Fitz-Audelin,  Dapifer  of  Heniy  IL,  and 
Governour  of  Ireland,  who  founded  the  Abbey  of 
St.  Thomas  the  Martyr  at  Dublm,  but  who  OBr> 
tainly  never  styled  himself  De  Buigho  in  any  of 
hid  extant  charters.  There  is  not  a  ahadow  of 
evidence  that  William  Fitz-Audelin  was  in  any 
way  related  to  Hubert  de  Buifrh,  and  it  ii  ml 
established  that  Hubert  rose  to  eminence  by  bii 
own  talents,  and  belonged  to  an  obscure  famuy  il 
Norfolk  with  no  pretension  to  illustrious  deaoaot 
The  De  Burghs,  afterwards  Earls  of  Ulster,  iren 
beyond  question  related  to  Hubert,  but  how  tha 
modern  tribe  of  Burke  or  De  Burgh  are  desoendad 
from  the  earls  is  a  point  which  has  still  to  ba 
proved ;  and  to  prove  this  descent  clearly  and 
satisfactorily  will  be  a  more  profitable  employ 
nieut  for  Irish  genealogists  of  that  name  than  to 
repeat  these  fables  about  the  origin  of  their  a^ . 
posed  ancestor. 

My  remarks  are  directed  not  so  much  asaiait 
these  three  particular  papers,  as  against  the  fittN* 
of  mind  which  dictated  them ;  for  it  is  just  ffcv 
uncritical  repetition  of  idle  traditions  which  btf 
brought  genealogy  into  discredit  and  ezpoasa  ill 
students  to  ridicule.  Mere  mistakes  in  such  nal' 
ters  are  inevitable,  and  should  be  corrected  iriA 
the  utmost  indulgence,  for  the  pioneem  of  M 
unexplored  field  must  expect  aometimea  to  kaa 
their  way ;  but  one  cannot  help  protesting  •fljVB' 
people  writing  in  a  literary  jounal  on  snqaeii 
which  they  have  not  taken  reaaonable  paina  la 
understand.  Genealogy  has  of  late  beeoni  4l  ' 
fashion,  and  the  intereat  in  aoeb  atodiea  aa  aiv 
widely  diffused ;  but  the  zeYiTal  wiU  db 


4*  a  IX.  Mat  4,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


337 


than  good;  unless  the  journals  in  which  it  finds 
expression  constantly  inculcate  that  genealogy, 
like  every  other  branch  of  hi3tory,  is  the  fruit  of 
patient  and  intelligent  research,  which  is  governed 
by  the  laws  of  evidence,  and  will  stand  the  test 
of  common  sense.  Tewars. 


Vaxtd.— 

"  la   Lausanne,   Easter   Monday,   which   from   time 
immemorial  has   been  a  *jour  de  fete'  amongst    the 
batchers  here,  was  kept  to-day  with  the  usual  festivities. 
Having  dined  at  the  Trots  SuisseSj  they  formed,  a  pro- 
oesnon,  which  paraded  the  streets  of  the  town,  headed  by 
a  brasB  band,  preceded  by  an  Orson-like  individual,  whose 
rouged  face  was  almost  concealed  by  an  enormous  black 
beard  and  mustacbius ;  he  wore  a  very  broad-brimmed 
hat,  turned  up  on  one  8ide  with  white  ostrich  feathers 
tipped  with  red,  scarlet  tunic,  knickerbockers,  and  long 
boots  ;  armed  with  a  formidable  axe,  with  which  he '  beat 
the  measure.'    This  slaughtering  hero  stalked  on  with  all 
the  airs  of  a  drum-majur ;  ever  and  anon  turning  towards 
the  procession,  he  pointed  his  we-apon  with  a  most  threat- 
CDiiig  attitude  in  the  direction  of  some  imaginary  enem}', 
and  echoed  the  word  *■  Vorwiirts '  in  a  tone  well  calculated 
to  strike  terror  into  the  hearts  of  the  nervous ;  then  came 
four  horsemen  decorated  in  an  equally  grotesque  manner, 
Ibllowed  by  two  little  boys  in  scarlet  caps  and  knicker- 
bockers, carrying  a  glass  box  containing  the  figure  of  a 
btilU  whose  head  bore  a  strong  family  likeness  to  those 
on  CoIman!s  Mustard ;  after  these  twenty-six  men,  two 
and   two,  with  white  shirts  and  aprons,  scarlet  caps, 
flashes,  having    two   bucepbalous   emblazoned  banners. 
They  had  some  sports  at  Montbenon,  and  finished  with  a 
hall  at  the  TroU  Suisses.    The  butchers  here  are  almost 
all  from  German  Switzerland,  and  many  wives  from  their 
own  country,  much  finer  women  than  the  Vaudois  ;  they 
seem  to  have  an  easy  time,  as  their  apprentices  do  all  the 
work.    I  have  seen  them  lolling  listlessly  at  their  own 
doors,  smoking  cigars,  while  their  pretty  wives  were  at- 
tending the  customers.    I  have  thought  that  if  Micky 
Free,  Charles  O'Malley's  Irish  servant,  had  extended  his 
travds  as  far  as  Switzerland,  ho  certainlv  would  have 
joined  the  butchers  of  Lausanne." — Swi»9  !h'm«j,  April  5, 
1872. 

The  ceremony  mentioned  in  the  above  extract 
is  a  very  ancient  one,  and  existed  long  before  the 
German  element  prevailed  at  Lausanne.  Perhaps 
some  correspondent  of  ^^  N.  &  Q."  may  be  able  to 
BBV  what  is  its  origin,  and  if  it  bo  met  with  else- 
where. The  '*  Sports  on  Mont  Benon,"  which 
consist  of  jumping  over  Easter  ^^^9j  &c.,  have 
been  already  alluded  to  in  •'  X.  &  Q." 

Stephen  Jackson. 

The  Smallest  Engine  in  the  World. — 
Perhaps  the  following  interesting  cutting  from  an 
Cnglish  local  provincial  newspaper,  at  the  close  of 
1871,  may  prove  a  suitable  addendum  to  "  Carved 
Cherry-stones "  in  the  present  series  of  "  N.  &  Q." 

*«  Mr.  D.  A.  A.  Buck,  jeweller,  of  Worcester,  has  (says 
a  Boston,  U.  S.,  paper)  built  the  smallest  engine  in  the 
world.  It  is  made  of  gold  and  silver,  knd  fastened  to- 
gether with  screws,  the  largest  of  which  is  one-eightieth 
of  an  inch  in  size.  The  engine,  boiler,  governor,  and 
pumps  stand  in  a  space  seven-sixteentiS  of  an  inch 
iqwDre,  and  are  five-eighths  of  on  inch  high.    Perhaps  a 


better  idea  of  its  smallness  will  be  conveyed  by  saying 
that  the  whole  affair  may  be  completely  covered  with  a 
common  tailor's  thimble.  The  engine  alone  weighs  but 
fifteen  grains,  and  yet  every  part  is  complete,  as  may  be 
seen  by  a  microscopic  examination ;  and  it  may  be  set 
in  motion  by  filling  the  boiler  with  water  and  applying 
heat,  being  supplied  with  all  valves,  &c.,  to  be  found 
upon  an  ordinary  upright  engine.  To  attempt  an  esti- 
mate of  its  power  would  seem  like  rather  small  business, 
but  for  a  guess,  a  span  of  well-fed  fleas  would  furnish 
more  force  if  they  were  properly  hamejtsed  and  shod. 
The  little  tbing  would  tug  away  several  minutes  if  en- 
couraged by  a  drop  of  water  heated  by  the  application 
of  a  burnt  finger." 

J.  Beale. 

Lord  Brougham  and  his  Friend  Stuart  or 
Dunearn. — If  a  man  falls  in  a  duel  it  matters 
little,  perhaps,  whether  the  bullet  penetrates  his 
head  or  causes  death  in  some  other  way.  In  the 
history  of  the  event,  however,  it  is  proper  that 
the  mode  of  death  should  be  stated  accurately. 
Referring  to  the  celebrated  duel  which  in  1822  took 
place  between  Sir  Alexander  Boswcll,  Bart.,  of 
Auchinleck,  and  James  Stuart,  jun.,  of  Dunearn, 
Lord  Brougham,  in  his  Autobiography  (ii.  604), 
writes  thus :  "  He  (Stuart)  shot  Bos  well  through 
the  head.''  This  is  not  true.  Sir  Alexander  re* 
ceived  the  ball  from  Stuart's  pistol  in  the  bottom 
of  his  neck;  it  shattered  the  collar-bone,  and  pe- 
netrating towards  the  spine,  ultimately  caused 
death.  Sir  Alexander  survived  till  the  day  after 
the  duel;  and,  as  if  anticipating  the  erroneous 
account  of  his  death  by  Lord  Brougham,  he  said 
to  Professor  Thomson  of  Edinburgh,  who  attended 
him,  ^'  I  am  a  man  with  a  living  head  and  a  dead 
body."  For  further  particulars  of  the  duel,  and 
the  circumstances  or  Sir  Alexander  Boswell's 
death,  I  refer  to  his  memoir  by  Mr.  Robert  Howie 
Smith  lately  published  at  Glasgow. 

.Charles  Rogers. 

Snowdoun  Villa,  Lewiaham,  S.E. 

Prompters'  Translations.  —  Some  of  the 
translations  of  Italian  operas,  made  (I  suppose)  by 
the  prompters  and  sold  to  the  audience,  are  very 
•ludicrous. 

In  II  Trovatore  the  stage  direction  after  the 
Anvil  Chorus  "  Tutti  scendono  alia  rinfusa  per  la 
china,  tratto  tratto,  e  sempre  a  maggior  distanza 
odesi  il  loro  canto,"  has  been  rendered  "  The 
chorus  goes  off  to  the  accompaniment  of  '  La 
china  tratto  tratto/  for  some  time  until  it  dies 
away  in  the  distance." 

In  another  opera  "  0  amabile  pupille ! "  appears 

in  English  "0  amiable  pupils!*'    In  Roberto  il 

Diavolo,  the  lines 

**  Egli  era,  dicessi, 
Abitatore 
Del  tristo  Iroperio  " 

are  translated 

"  For  they  say  he  was 
A  citizen  of  the  black  emporiam," 


358 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[4th  s.  IX.  Mat  4^  71 


'*  Rapita  t  me  sarai  fra  pocbi  momenti  ** 
is  presented  as 

"  la  one  moment  thou  shalt  be  ravished  hv  mc.'* 

L. 
Philadelphia. 

Burial  Usages  in  Cornwall.  —  It  may  not 
be  altogether  uninteresting  to  some  of  your  readers 
to  compare  with  those  accounts  that  have  already 
appeared  in  the  pages  of ''  N.  &  Q."  (4*»»  S.  ix.  71, 
27u),  another  of  still  older  date,  which  will  at 
least  serve  to  show  that  funeral  customs  in  the 
south  of  Scotland  and  in  the  extreme  west  of 
Cornwall  were  somewhat  similar. 

The  original  of  this  account  is  in  the  writing  of 
my  great-great-grandfather,  who  resided  at  Bosa- 
vern  in  St.  Just,  Penwith,  Cornwall,  and  is  as 
follows : — 

**  Sarah  Ustick  died  October  y«  23,  1725. 

What  I  have  disburst  and  laid  out  and  paid  ntt  Sarah 
Ustick*8  deth,  my  sister  in  law,  and  since  the  23  day 
of  October  1725. 

The  Cott  of  her  Funerall. 

£  $.    d. 

For  brandy  and  wine 1  14    6 

To  Tliomas  Kubery  fur  the  Cofinp;  .  .  1  10  0 
To  Mr.  Pound  for  a  note  due  to  Mr.  Duller  .    5  13    0 

And  paid  for  my  diner  then  .  .  .030 
To  Mr.  Pearse  for  the  funerall  gloves  and  good8 

shee  took  on  the  shop  book  .  .  .1114 
It.  for  tobacow- pipes,  bread  for  the  poor/and 

the  Sexton  for  the  grave,  £  ye  poor  fur 

dole '.        .        .     0  14    6 

It.  to  the  person  '  for  burin;?  and  mortuary  .  Oil  0 
It.  to  the  parLsh  for  the  grave  .  .  .  .040 
It.  to  the  Cort  praising  the  Will  •  .  .  2  10  I 
It.  to  Mr.  Hugh  Busvargus  in  expcnce  for  the 

gentlemen  and  ringers 0  14    0 

It.  to  Mr.  Tho.  Allen  for  drawing  her  Will  and 

other  things  as  by  his  acount  apercs  .  .  0  13  3 
It  to  Doctor  Treweek  for  fiseck  .  .  .0156 
It  to  Doctor  Loveler  for  fiaeck      .        .        .    0  10    G." 

The  account  continues,  but  has  no  further  refer- 
ence to  the  funeral. 

As  a  guide  to  the  value  of  money  in  St.  Just 
about  this  time,  I  append  one  or  two  extracts  (the 
nearest  I  could  find  to  the  date  mentioned)  from 
the  accounts  of  tho  same  person : — 

£    $,  d. 

*•  Nov.  y«  24, 1737,  one  halfc  bushell  of  barley   0    3  0 

All  Saints,  1739,  f<»r  one  quarter  of  beef     .    0  17  4^ 
Ap.  15,  1740,  one  quarter  of  mutton,  ten 

pound  8t,  half 0     19 

Christmas,  1741.    Beef,  43 J  pounds,  att  too 

pence  halfe  pcnoy  per  pound  .        .09  0." 

G.  B.  MiLLETT. 
Penzance. 

MATRiKoyiAL  Advertisements. —As  an  ex- 
ample of  the  manner  in  which  lonely  swains,  with 
an  eye  to  business,  publicly  appealed  for  sym- 
pathy from  the  fair  .sex,  I  may  cite  the  following 
extract  from  the  Morning  Chronicle  for  July  10. 
1794 :—  ^      ' 


•  Parson. 


**  A  reputable  tradesman,  in  the  neighbouhood  ef 
Bond  Street,  about  thirty-live  years  of  age,  in  agolMl 
and  profitable  busine:^  which'clears  at  present  aboik 
200/.  per  annum,  but  may  bo  greatly  extcoided  and  !■• 
proved,  would  be  happy  to  meet  with  a  lady,  nearly  of  Mi 
own  age,  of  an  active  disposition  and  good  temper.  Thi 
advertiser,  from  his  uniform'  application  to  busineH^  bM 
not  liad  an  opportunity  of  being  much  in  theeom|ia!f 
of  the  fair  sex,  which  induces  him  to  take  this  flMthoda 
addressing  his  sentiments,  and  he  flatters  himself  tkil 
anv  ladv,  scriouslv  inclined  to  form  a  union  In  the  laatd- 
monial  state,  will,  on  applving  by  letter,  appointing  a 
inter\'iew,  to  H.  1).,  No.  28,  Field  Street,  Battle  BfW 
tlnd  that  she  has  to  deal  with  a  man  of  bonoarmd  n- 
tcgritv,  and  have  in  the  sequel  reason  to  confen  that,  ii 
so  dofng,  she  has  consulted  her  own  interest,  ai  well  ■ 
thMt  of  the  advertiser. 

**  N.B. — It  is  hoi>ed  none  will  apply  through  idle  eiii- 
osity ;  and  as  the  advertiser's  fita'atioa  and  ciiMBr 
stanct^  in  life  are  easy,  it  is  expected  that  the  lady  Ctt 
command  a  few  liundred  poumls.'* 

J.  BlBSiti 

S.  T.  Coleridge.  —  The  following  facetiotf 
letter  of  Coleridjre's,  showing  with  what  phik- 
sophy  he  could  smile  and  joke  even  under  aoili 
pain,  may  prove  interesting  to  some  of.  jvt 
readers,  connected  as  it  is  with  the  name  of  Gill" 
man. 

The  friends  I  was  residing  with  near  them  it 
Highgate  in  the  summer  of  1820  haTiaginTilBi 
him  to  dinner,  received  this  answer  on  Crefwid[ 
tinted  satin  paper : — 

^  Grove,  Higfagtte. 

"  ^ly  dear  Madam, — I  do  not  know  whether  oar  b^ 
love<i,  and  (with  good  reason  mif)  revered  no  lesi  Am 
beloved,  friend,  Mrs.  Gillman,  intended  bv  the  eokr  tf 
this  paper,  which  she  has  placed  on  my  wnting  tabli^  M 
Iiint  that  she  perceived  I  had  the  hlu»  deTili^  bnt  iMit 
true  it  is,  that  I  do  feel  my  spirits  more  than  ordlMiif 
depressed  bv  the  necessity  of  dedioiDg-  yonr  kind  ii*r 
ration.  Declining  f  That  was  a  very  iU<cD08en  word;  Av 
in  the  very  act  of  writing  it  I  was  straggliDg  with  tbi 
rebellious  inclination  to  accept  it  at  all  riaka.  Bnt  Oie* 
science  in  the  shape  (t.  e.  to  my  mind*8  ey^)  of  a 
gnawing  at  the  bone  of  my  knee,  with 
ment  at  my  stomach,  came  to  my  aid,  and  like 
who  interfere  to  protect  Ru^an  ladies  fFom  the 
ment  of  their  angr}'  husbands,  got  small  thanks  fnm  ■* 
for  her  pains.  In  grave  earnest,  my  dear  madsBf  ^ 
vexes  me  niore  than  the  loss  of  any  gratiflcalto  ooi^ 
to  vex  a  grey-hended  philovipher,  that  I  must  not  ihiV 
by  the  gladness  of  my  countenance  to  yoaneirandllr.B| 
what  I  am  about  to  write  ;  to  wit,  that  with 
and  regard, 

**1  am,  my  dear  madam, 

"  Your  and  his  obliged  friend  and 

**  S.  T.  GoLBBIDGa 

"  23  June,  1829." 

I  have  kept  this  letter,  which  I  begsped  for.*^ 
the  moment^  as  a  pleasant  souvenir  of  the  Ppflt 
ever  since.  P.  A.  u 

''  He  does  not  kitow  a.  HawK  iBOX  A  HAlt" 
SAW." — Is  there  such  a  proverb  P  (  FSrf*  p.  180  d 
present  vol.)  I  first  saw  the  ^raae  naei  bj  tbi 
editor  of  a  newspaper,  and 'not  lai^  ttbumrntf^X 
found  in  Shakespere's  works  tfals  phni|9-«*Bi. 


t^SAX.  Mat  4, '72.] 


K0TE3  AJiD  QUERIES. 


koowa  a  bawk  from  a  ln^rDsbnn-."  Since  tlicn  1 
hsiTO  considered  the  former  a  niiaquotation  from 
Shakespere,  for  it  seeius  to  nie  to  be  absurd  to 
boast  of  one's  knoivleilg^of  the  difference  between 
a  hawk  and  a  handsaw.  I  have  elsewhere  seen 
the  plirase  (as  quoted  by  your  correspondent) 
eiren  as  a  proverb,  with  the  explanation  that 
handfaw  is  a  corruption  for  heronshair,  nnd  is  u^ed 
to  denolo  great  ijrnorance.    Shakefipere  meana  his 

Shrsse  to  denote  iotellectunl  discernment ;  and  »o 
oesthe  original  phrase — if  Shakespre'sisnotthe 
original.  Therefore  let  ua  sink  the  corruption. 
The  person  who  does  not  know  a  hawk  from  a 
handsaw  must  be  unendowed  with  the  faculty  of 
reaaoning,  and  one  whom  it  would  be  a  useless 
task  to  reproach  for  his  ignorance.  U.  H. 

Exeter. 

"  Secbft  SoCiEirBS  ot  the  Middle  Aoes." — 
One  often  conies  across  curious  infoTmation  in 
booksellers'  catalogues  which  might  with  ad- 
Tantage  be  transferred  to  your  more  lasting  pages. 
Such  an  entry  is  the  fallowing  of  one  of  the 
ftnonymous  Tolutnes  of  the  Library  of  Entertain- 
ing Knowledge.  It  is  from  Sotheran,  Baer  &,  Co.'s 
Catalogue  for  February,  1872:  — 

["  KeiBhtl.'j-'B  (T.)  1  Stml  Sadniiii  of  tht  Sliddlt  Age; 
wobdcDts,  l^mo,  cloth  (compn'Bing  autograph  no[i«  by 
tb«  aathor  staling  thnt  this  voJume  wae  ]irinted  wUhout 
hU  kRawIedg«.)    C.  Knight,  1837." 

C.  W.  S. 

■Walkut-wooh  PoRTRin  (IF  XapoleosI. — 
I  have  a  portrait  of  the  lirst  Xapoleon,  turned  in 
the  lathe  after  the  manner  of  the  ebony  portrait 
of  Louis  XVL  (p.  64).  Mine  was  likewise  Brought 
from  France  in  the  early  part  of  the  present  cen- 
tury, but  it  is  in  walnut- wood,  and  forms  a  box 
when  reversed  and  thebroad  base  removed,  which 
constitutes  the  lid.  At  present  it  contains  some 
of  the  ground  coifee  found  in  the  carriage  of  the 
emperor  when  it  was  captured  on  the  flight  from 
"Waterloo.  M.  D. 


Oiirrfrtf. 


Sir  Eohert  AviorN.  —  Can  you  furnish   an 

account  of  the  writings  of  Sir  Robert  A^toun,  a 

poet  who  flourished  about  the  end  of  the  siiteenth 

century  ?  There  is  no  mention  of  him  in  Warton. 

W.  B.  C. 

[Sir  Robert  Avloon,  an  emlnEnt  pnet,  and  secretary  to 
the  qneena  of  J«mM  VI.  anil  Charles  I.,  was  bora  In 
1670,  and  died  in  Ixmdon  in  March  1637-8.  lie  w»  the 
anifaor  of  poetical  piecen  in  several  lincuaseSi  Greek, 
Latin,  French,  and  Enctish.     His  English  and  Latiu 


I  author,  and  ■  genealoeical  tri 
also  The  Bannatyiu  MiictllaH 


memoir  of 
or  the  familv.     Conaalt  also  The  Bantiatynt  Iditctltanu, 
ToL  i.,  and  "N.  &  d."  1"  S.  vL  413,  4G5  i  S°'  S.  Ui.  311; 
^  8.  iii  289;  zL  487,49!.; 


BANriN-D\T.  —  Can  any  one  give  the  origin  of 
a  banyan-dav  as  applied  to  fasting  P  Of  course  it 
relates  to  Hindoo  customs,  and  is  probably  either 
used  to  designate  a  fast  in  honour  of  the  sacred 
tree  or  a  day  on  which  its  fruit  alone  is  eaten  by 
the  faithful ;  but  I  should  much  like  to  know 
which,  if  either,  of  these  suggesLions  is  the  truo 
eTplanution  of  the  term,  and  how  it  came  into 
common  use  in  this  country.  A.  A.  F. 

[Banvan-dar  is  a  marine  term  for  those  dsvs  in  which 
the  sailors  have  no  flesh  meat,  and  is  probably  derived 
fiom  the  practice  of  the  Baoiana,  a  caatp  of  Hindooa,  who 
entirely  aliatained  froin  all  animal  food.] 

Bisnop  Bersblbt's  Giart. — In  a  French  book, 
Eiifniils  c^l'breg,  par  Michel  Maason,  Uidiet,  Paris, 
18(59,  I  read  the  account  of  a  celebrated  child 
"MacOrath,"  He  is  described  aa  the  son  of  a 
locksmith,  who  sold  him  to  "Georges  Berkeley, 
£v€qiie  de  Cloyne,"  who  put  him  into  a  hot- 
house, as  he  wished  to  make  hiui  grow  fifteen 
feet  high.  MacGrath  grew  enormously,  while  his 
intellects  weakened ;  but  the  cruel  bishop,  intent) 
on  the  solution  of  his  great  problem,  how  to 
create  giants,  cared  noug-ht  for  the  mind.  Death 
at  last  snatched  the  victim  from  the  inhuman 
tyrant,  whom  we  have  been  in  the  habit  of  endow- 
ing with  every  virtue  under  heaven.  What  is 
^e  meaning  of  this  strange  story,  and  what  caa 
be  the  foundation  for  it.!* 

Herri  F.  Poksokbt. 

[It  has  been  said  that  among  his  other  eiperimeats 
Bishop  Berkeley  contrived,  by  a  special  regimen,  to 
convert  a  child  of  ordinary  size  into  a  giant ;  and  Mb> 
grath,  tthoti  ekeleton,  seven  feet  nine  inches  in  height, 
may  be  seen  in  Trinity  College,  Dublin,  is  reported  to 
hove  I.efn  the  sohjecl  of  this  experiment  ("  N  &  Q."  I" 
S.  ii,  217  i  8'"  S.  i.  rtlt).  Tbe  fiflion,  we  beUeve,  oriei-  ■ 
nated  with  John  VValkinson,  M.D..  and  is  given  in  his 
FkaotopAical  Survey  (fUit  Soulk  nf  Inland,  1777,  p.  187. 
A  letter  in  the  Gtnllimm'M  UagavM  for  Augusr,  llbt, 
refers  to  the  origin  of  iba    '       '  ' "        -  -    — 


talks  boyish  I 
where  he  hi 


imple. 


%VJi 


o  salt  K 


r  for 


imalic  pains  which  almost  ciipplctl  him. 
physicisns  now  say  they  were  growing  pains,  as  he  Is 
surprisingly  grown  within  that  time,  lie  was  a  month  it 
the  Bishop  of  aovne^s.  who  look  care  of  him.  His  head  i* 
as  big  as  a  middling  shoulder  of  mutton ;  the  last  of  his 
■hoe,  which  he  carries  about  with  him.  mcasares  fifteea 
Inches.  He  was  bom  in  thi;  county  of  Tippvrary.  within. 
"      -•■'      ■'   ------■■    The  fact  is  IbBtBerkeley 


ooktl 


inder  hit 


jiani,  inddiedinlTSS.^ 
BuCKDBS :  Chee'b.  —  In  the  latter  part  of  the 
reign  of  Queen  EUxabeth  there  was  a  place  at 
Buckden  called  the  Cbek'r.  Can  any  one  inform 
me  whether  this  was  some  building  attached  to 
the  Bishop  of  Lincoln's  palace  there,  or  whethei 
it  was  an  inn  .which  wn  the  che^nen  for  its 
ugn  P  COBKUB. 


360 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«k&rz.  mat^^*;! 


W'lf,  DotovD. — Can  you  gi\e  me  the  date  of 
the  death  of  W.  Dimond,  author  of  The  Royal 
Oak,  Foundling  of  t?ie  Forest,  and  many  other 
dramas?  One  of  Mr.  Dimond's  plays  was  per- 
formed in  1801,  at  which  time  he  was  only  about 
eighteen  years  old.  R.  Ii^^glis. 

EsTERHAZv,  OR  Mares. — Will  any  reader  of 
'•  N.  &  Q."  oblige  by  giving  some  int'orniatioa  as 
to  either  of  the  above  families  whilst  re^^ident  in 
Monmouthshire,  or  a  reference  where  such  infor- 
mation mav  be  mot  with  ?  Glwysig. 

Foreign.  —  Is  there  any  work  in  Gorman  or 
any  other  language  correspond in;j  with  Wright's 
Domestic  MnnncrA  of  the  English  f 

TuE  Author  op  *'0x  the  Edge  of 
THE  SroRM." 

Gray  Friars  of  Bkwmakan. — Pope  Urban  I. 
in  l>iG7,  authorised  the  Franciscans  of  Ireland  to 
erect  a  convent  in  the  Isle  of  Man  at  a  place 
called  tiie  villa  of  St.  Columba.  In  the  map  of 
CamdtMi  and  Spoed  the  site  is  sot  di>wn  not  as  the 
villn  ol'  St.  Columba,  but  as  Bewm.-ikau,  which  is 
in  the  present  p;iri>h  of  Kirk  Arb.^ry.  No  doubt, 
as  suj:ge?ted  by  the  lenm^nl  writer  in  the  fifty- 
sixth  volume  of  the  liolltiH<list%  October  iO,  that 
the  pari^^h  of  Kirk  Arbon*  is  the  same  as  the 
laud  of  St.  Core  brie  mentioned  in  a  bull  of  Euge- 
nius  III.  to  the  Abbot  of  Funiess  in  1153.  I>r. 
Oliver,  however,  in  the  map  published  in  hi8 
Moniwieuta  (vol.  ii.),  places  lireehmakan  in  the 
pari>h  of  St.  Columba.  Xow,  was  the  parish  of 
Kirk  Arbory  ever  colled  the  pari-*!i  of  St.  Columba? 
Is  auythinir  kn-.wa  of  .*^t.  Cor-.'hric,  from  which 
Kirk  Arbiry  is  derived,  who  Wiv?  no  doubt  tlie 
patr'U  of  the  parish?  Gouiih.  and  after  him 
C;\rii?h\  note  tiiat  the  paJrous  in  oaoh  of  the 
Seventeen  parishes  into  wnich  the  island  i.s  divided 
wero  saints  of  the  island.  Aftor  the  suppression, 
the  land  was  leaded  at  successive  periods  by  the 
crown,  and  in  1020  was  granted  for  life  by 
Charle:?  I.  to  his  queen  Henrietta  Maria.  .\re 
there  any  known  records  of  the  abboy  fmm  its 
in^tinriion  umlor  I'rban  to  the  suppression?  Can 
ar.y  one  give  me  the  succession  t-^  the  property 
aiu  r  tih'  d«»ath  »'f  Charles  I.  ?  What  is  the  cor- 
rect re:^I^.•ri^s^  of  the  word  rilla  in  mediaeval  docu- 
ment? Like  the'woi-d  tmrn  in  Sciitland.  it  seems 
applicable  to  a  single  houuvtoaJ,  hamlet,  or  vil- 
hvge.  "  A.  E.  G. 

*'  Ills  roiRr  IM'  r>  *.  I  ox."— T:«e  Jfunta!  drs  Jh^hais 
of  ^lareh  ll^,  LS'J,  in  an  r4rtii'!o  liojuled  as  above, 
s\vs :  "  Les  La vv  •. 'a' ; a nni '}v\ >  d . >u naien t  an x  Wi tons 
pytes  par  leurs  ^,':ioraux  le  nomme  de  skitalc.^' 
if  there  be  any  aulhonty  for  this  statement,  may 
r.-^t  the  fkifolt'  of  tho  Lacedemonians  l>e  the  origin 
ef  our  word  ^^itHts?  James  Henrv  Dixox. 

• 

Irish  Famtt.ies. — Can  aT\v  of  your  reailers  in- 
form mo — (1)  as  to  the  parentage  of  .\nne  Alex- 


ander, who  married  Sir  Richard  Johnstone,  BRiti 
of  Gilford,  co.  Down?  (2)  In  Archdale's  iWMi 
of  Ireland  Sir  Richard  Johnstone  is  siren  u  ns 
son  of  Richard  Johnstone,  Esq.,  of  Gilford — ^whom 
did  the  latter  marry  ?  (3)  Can  any  one  siTe  b0 
any  information  as  to  the  Ormabys  of  Clo^ao,  esk 
Mayo  ?  a  L.  0. 

<'  The  King's  Gap.*'— At  Hoylake  in  Ciieduii 
there  is  a  road  called  ''  The  King*s  Gap,"  laidiif 
northward  down  t*  the  sei-shore.  The  fisbenui 
there  sav  the  r':' ad  is  so  called  because  King  Wil- 
liam III.  embarked  there  £or  Ireland.  Can  iVf 
of  your  readers  inform  me  whether  there  is  s;^ 
authority  for  this  statement  ?  I  observe  that  is 
Mncaulay's  llistonf,  King  William  is  said  to  havf 
embarked  from  Chester.  G.  Bl  & 


Laird  of  Colliehill. — I  am  desirons  of 
taining  the  surname  of  this  laird,  since  it  hM 
become  undecipherable  on  his  grarestone  in  EUoa 
kirkyard,  Aberdeenshire.     The  inscription  lOM 

thus*:  DE  colli  En  ILL  .  ET  .  AGNIS  .  HAT  .  MAWI. 

lAXETE  .  EVNo  .  8VE  .  8P0XSE  .    Janet  Kingi  tht 
wife,  died  Mav  20,  1581,  set.  thirty-eight. 

G.  S.  K. 

St.  Peter's  Square,  IlammeKOiith. 

Db.  LiG^rtf .— I  shall  be  much  obliged  for  anj 
information,  or  any  references  to  books  when  I 
can  obtain  information,  concerning  a  man  nsmsi 
Wood,  whi-»,  about  1750  to  1770,  took  the  name 
of  Dr.  Li^um;  and  was  rather  a  eelebEMsd 
character  as  a  quack  medical  man  and  travellkf 
doctor  in  the  border  counties  of  North  Britain 
about  Kelso,  Yetholm,  &c.,  &c. 

NXPHXIA 

"Lixe"^  to  a  Moth,"  inserted  in  "N.  &V 
(!»•»  S.  iii.  012.)     Is  the  author  known  ? 

Am  AjrriQVAir. 

^I  vuTHE  Dog.  —  What  Is  the  derivation  of  tbe 
word  Mauthe  Dog,  a  kind  of  fairy  or  sprite? 

'n.  S.  SxiFTur. 

Mi^N.vsTic  TxvEXTORiEs. — Will  one  of  yon' 
numt'roiis  readers  explain  these  words  in  mooaitM 
inventories?     *"Cum  rosis  et  verenlvsrs'*  (cha^ 


"  oiirvinjis    ^an  ornamenc 
chasul)le):    "To    open    and    spar"    (a  hook); 
"Saumwler  work'*  (on  a  towel) ;  ''Crased  snd 
parnyMied"  (a  bason);  "Stock  WQrk"(cfaiiVg 
on  achaliee) :  "  When  the  Quire  doth  feiT." 
Mackexzik  R  C.  Walcotx,  BJ).,FJ3X 

MoxoLiTH,  ITS  Xaxis.->E.  R.  P.  (iMfa4*  8.ix. 
i?0),  or  some  other  skilled  arehssologulL  nay  pot- 
sibly  be  good  enough  to  afford  .tiieir  auukm  i|M 
the  et^-molopy  of  the  name  givfii  to  a  nigf  m^ 
whinstone  boulder  that  haa  baco/ioraTMjlM 
time  locally  famous.    It  ia  (as  it  nugr  1M  wSr 


4*  S.  IX.  May  4»  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


361 


•ary  to  expliiin)  upon  a  field  of  a  ftirra  called 
JBrunnelftide  (8o  the  pronunciation),  Dunlop,  Ayr- 
shire, and  a  little  north  of  the  parish  kirk.     This 
field  elopes  rapidly  towards  the  south-east ;  and 
a  bum  called  the  Gluzart  (Gluefarde  or  Gluss- 
durP),  on  the  mar^dn  of  which,  only  a  short  way 
east  of  this  stone,  and  in  at  one  time  a  retired 
spot,  was  a  chapel  dedicated  to  the  Virgin.     The 
stepping-stones  in  the  burn  before  there  was  a 
bridge,  leadinp^  from   the   south  to  this  chapel, 
were  called  "  The  Lady  Steps."   The  farm  is  called 
Chapel  House ;  and  there  is  "  The  Chapel  Well " 
— a  fine  pure  spring,  so  copious  as  to  fill  a  bore  of 
two  inches,  issuing  from  the  base  of  a  high  per- 
pendicular rocky  hill- face   called  "The   Chapel 
Uraig.''    Hard  by  this  spring,  and  cloi>e  to  the 
base  of  the  hill,  stood  the  chapel  itself — a  small 
house  it  is  said,   and  part  of  the  stone  walls 
of  which  was  extant  in  1700-171)3.    The  tradi- 
tion of  the  locality  was,  and  is,  that  those  wor- 
shipping here  were  wont  to  perform  part  of  their 
devotions  by  creeping  around  this  stone,  calling 
out  ever  and  anon  *'  0  thou  great  stone  I ''    Tfie 
orthography  of  the  name  cannot  be  said  to  be 
fixed,  nor  is  the  pronunciation  of  it  uniform,  that 
being  sometimes  ^^The  Ogar  Stane,"  and  some- 
times "  The  Thu-girt  Stane  " — i\n  abbreviation,  as 
some  have  contended,  quite  fancifully  we  imagine,  ' 
of  "  0  thou  great  stane."     Whether  this  stone  ! 
was,  as  now,  always  single,  or  whether  it  is  part  i 
of  some  Cyclopeen  structure  of  a  prehistoric  era, 
it  would  be  vam  now  to  conjecture.    13ut  it  may  i 
be  advanced,  at  least,  that  there  is  much  to  con- 
firm the  idea  of  a  practice  having  prevailed  on 
the  part  of  the  early  Christian  missionaries  of  not 
only  planting  themselves  in  the  neighbourhood  of 
Pagan  fanes,  in  order  to  proselytise,  but  also  of 
adopting  not  a  few  of  the  Pagan  rites. 

ESPEDABS. 

"  Oe,"  an  Ihlaj:d.— Will  you  kindly  inform  me 
how  this  Old  Norse  word  should  be  written  in 
the  plural  number  ?  T.  J.  D. 

[C)e  or  O  is  not  Old  Xorse  but  modern  Danish  for 
island,  plural  oer.  The  Old  Nor.-e  or  Icelandic  word  is 
ey,  plural  eyar.  lleuce  Siu/rei/ur  or  the  Southern  Inlet, 
the  Old  Norse  name  for  the  Ilebriden,  from  which  Sodur 
in  the  expression  *' Bishop  of  Sudor  and  Man"  is  de- 
rived.] 

Pa  ley's  Eminent  Person. — Paley  says  (^Evi- 
dcnceSy  part  iii.  chap,  i.)  :  — 

"  We  have  in  our  own  times  the  life  of  an  eminent  . 
person,  written  by  three  of  his  friends,  In  which  there  is  j 
veiy  great  variety  in  the  incidents  selected  by  them ;  ! 
Bone  apparent,  aud  perhaps  Home  real  contradictions, 
3'et  withoat  anv  impeachment  of  the  substantial  truth  of 
their  account^^' 

Who  was  this  ?  None  of  Paley *s  editors  seem 
to  know.  Cykil. 


[Dt,  Johnson  died  on  Dec.  13,  1784;  and  Paley'i  Eci- 
firat  appeared  m  17U-1.    In  the  interim  were  pub- 


lished the  following  Lives  of  Or.  Jr'hnson,  by  Mrs.  Piozzi, 
178(>;  Sir  John  Hawkins,  1787;  Boswell,  1791;  aud 
Arthur  Murph}-,  1702.] 

Portrait  of  a  Lady  painted  for  Burke. — 
Is  it  known  who  was  the  original  of  "  Portrait  of 
a  young  lady  paiTited  for  Mr.  E(fmund  Burke," 
lately  in  the  collection  at  Burlington  House,  and 
marked  105  ?  '  0.  C. 

The  Earl  of  St.  Laurent,  Canada. — In  the 
Travels  ihrou/fh  tlie  Cftnadagy  by  George  Heriot, 
Esq.,  Philadelphia,  181.S,  8vo,  this  statement  oc- 
curs at  p.  72,  chap.  iii. :  — 

It  wsLS  in  1C76  erected  into  an  earldom,  under  the  title 
of  Saint  Laurent,  which  has  long  been  extinct." 

I  Vill  be  very  thankful  for  the  name  of  this 
nobleman.  B. 

Shaw's  Staffordshire  MSS.  (1"  S.  vii.  18.) — 
Nearly  twenty  years  have  elapsed  since  N.  C.  L. 
asked  a  question  regarding  these  MSS.  in  *'N.  &  Q.," 
which,  if  its  indexes  be  trustworthyi  still  remains 
unanswered.  . 

The  partially  revived  interest  in  the  history  and 
antiquities  of  Staffordshire,  produced  by  the  pro- 
tracted eiforts  of  Lord  Lichfield  and  a  lamentably 
small  minority  to  acquire  for  the  county  the 
library  formed  at  such  vast  cost  and  labour  by 
the  late  Mr.  William  Salt,  and  the  prospect  held 
out  in  "  N.  &  Q.,"  4»»'  S.  ix.  261,  that  his  invaluable 
collection  illustrative  of  his  native  shire  will  not, 
to  its  eternal  disgrace,  be  lost  to  the  country, 
induces  me  to  hope  that  N.  C.  L.'s  query  may.at 
length  meet  with  a  reply,  and  I  therefore  re- 
peat it : — 

*>  Can  any  of  your  Staffordshire  correspondents  fumish 
information  as  to  the  preitcnt  depositor^'  of  the  Rev. 
Stebbing  Shaw's  Staffordshire  MSS.,  and  the  MS.  notes  of 
Dr.  Thomas  Harwood  used  in  his  two  editions  of  £rde8- 
wick's  Staffi)rcLhiref'* 

From  Shaw*s  pref«\ce,  penned  prior  to  a.d  1798, 
it  appears  evident  that  his  history  of  the  hundreds 
of  Seisdon  and  Cuddleston  was  at  that  time  com- 
pleted, and  that  that  of  the  hundreds  of  Pyrehill 
and  Totmanslow  was  already  written.  Moreover, 
Harwood  records  that  at  the  time  of  Shaw*8 
lamented  death  a  few  pages  of  the  second  part  of 
the  second  volume  had  actually  passed  through  the 
presa.  Where,  then,  are  the  unpublished  MSS.  P 
bid  Mr.  Salt  acquire  any  of  them  ?  and  may  we 
dare  to  hope  that,  in  spite  of  the  marvellous  anathj 
and  inditlerence  evinced  in  connection  witn  tlM 
recent  proceedings  relative  to  the  Salt  library, 
the  fruit  of  ''  the  labour  of  manv  ^ears,  and  those 
the  most  important  and  valuable  in  the  life  "  of 
the  amiable  imd  accomplished  historian,  Stebbing 
Shaw,  will  ere  long  meet  with  a  competent  editor 
and  an  erudite  continuAtor.  Venaiob. 

Key.  Bichard  Selbt.— A  Mr.  Hichard  Selby  was 
a  minister  of  l^e  church  of  England  in  the  rngm 
of  James  I.  or  Charles  L    He  was  of  Bittadees, 


362  NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  i*^B.lx.Uxr*,'A 


near  Abbej  Holme,  Cumberland.    Can  I  learn 


John  Owen's  yints  at  Fleetwood  Honae  to  Bi 


anythingofbim  through  your  readers?      E.  K.      John  Ilartopp,  rather  than  to  Gen.  Fleetwotd, 
Sessions  PirBES.-When  were  the  Old  Sailer,  !  ^o™  t^e  fact  that  the-^eU-known  folio  edite 
■Session*  Papers  first  printed,  and  where  can  i    of  Owen  s  Sermow,  in  1721,  w  dedicated  to  & 

complete  set  of  them  l5e  comulted  f  S.  P.    \  J°J"J  "'"•'°PP'  «°,t  •  T     ."f?««'"  "  "?«^lJ" 

^  !  the  dedication  to  their  long  intimacy.    But  Oirai 

[The  Old  Bailey  Sessions  Papers  from  1730  to  1834,  j  ^^  ^jg^  ^^  tg^ms  of  aifectionate  intimacy  wiA 

lib  vol8.4to,arem  the  London  Corporation  Library,  which  '  ^,^^^., ^^     „^j  ••  „«„i,i  „«««,   ^«^«,  4.1.^  rlfiaM- 

abo  contains  the  folio  sheets  of  lG80;i6«3-lC88.-»l'heSe9-  ,  1^  leetwood ;  and  it  would  seem,  froni  the  Life 
sions  Papers  for  the  Citv  of  London  and  County  of  Mid-  '  pended  to  the  Sermons,  that  the  last  letter  M 
dlescx,  from  Dec.  1, 1813,  to  Nov.  5, 1834,  21  vols.  4to,  :  wrote  before  his  death  was  delivered  to  the  gennal 
are  in  the  London  Institution.     Those  in   the  British  ,  ^t    Fleetwood  House,     This  affecting   letter  V, 
Museum  commence  iu  Dec.  1729,  and  continue  to  the  pre-  i  doubtless,  familiar  to  the  readers  of  «K  &  Q." 

^"^  ^"^^'-^  1  At  the  end  of  the  Life  of  Owen  are  alao  pze- 

j  served  several  letters  addressed  to  Lady  Hartopf^ 
l^tpliti*  and  other  inmates  of  this  mansion. 

FLEETWOOD  HOUSE,  STOKE  NEWINGTOX.  .  l'*^l°g.  ^Z^^  J^^P7  J^^^^^c.^^}^^   ^^^^^ 

rAih  Q  •     o<vM  &^^®"  °^  ^^  Nathaniel  Gould,  Sir  John  Htftopp'i 

(4    b.  IX.  -.JO.;  j  goQ.in.iaw^  and  one  of  Fleetwood's  truatooa    m 

As  I  was  the  friend  who  accompanied  Mr.  '  of  Thomas  Cooke,  the  benevolent  but  eooentife 

AiixoTT  over  Fleetwood  House  in  the  early  part  Turkey  merchant,  who  was  carried  out  of  tkii 

of  this  month,  perhaps  I  may  be  allowed  to  add  house  to  his  burial  at  Blackheath  in  the  Jtu 

a  few  particulars  to  the  account  he  has  given  of  ,  1752 — we  come  to  the  mention  of  Mrs.  Elizabeft 

this  mansion.     I  have  gone  over  it  several  times  Cooke,  whose  inscription  on  the  pane  of  glMum 

since  that  visit ;  and  have,  I  believe,  thoroughly  i  given  by  Mr.  Arnott.    In  addition,  however,  to 

explored  it  in  all  its  parts.     There  are  consider-  '  the  words  he  has  copied,  there  is  a  date,  July  Slf 

able  remains   of  Elizabethan  or  early  Jacobean  ;  1728;  and  this  is  preceded  by  some  cnanetan^ 

oak  panelling  in  and  about  the  kitchen  and  pas-  ,  apparently  in  shorthand.     From  the  feet  that  her 

tiages  in  the  eastern  part  of  the  house,  which  '  father,  Sir  Nathaniel  Gould,  died  July  20  in  thtt 

appears  to  be  the  oldest.     There  is  a  iiue  massive  year,  perhaps  in  the  night  between  the  20th  lad 

Jacobean  staircase  (of  solid  oak,  painted  stone-  |  21  st,  I  conjecture  that  these  characters  refer -to 

colour)  leading  from  the  iiist-floor  to  the  second  his  death.    The  glass  is  now  in  my  posBesaioB. 

utory  and  attics.     There  is   also  a  very  elegant  The  destruction  of  this  interesting  house  is  tiis 

staircase  leading  from  the  hall  to  the  iirat-iioor:  ,  less  to  be  regretted  as,  more  perhaps  fromaMenr 

this  dates  from  early  iu   the  last  century,  and  tion  than  from  time,  it  is  evidently  quite  worn 

probably  takes  the  place  of  one  of  much  earlier  out.     I   believe  that  no  engraving  remains  of 

date,  and  I  consider  this  to  be  continuous  with  Fleetwood  House :  but  a  photograph  of  the  fins 


the  other.  Opening  upon  this  latter  staircase  is  red  brick  north  front  was  taken  some  time 
the  room  from  the  ceiling  of  which  the  coat  of  and  this  should  be  engraved.  I  am  indebted  to 
the  Hartopps,  mentioned  by  Mr.  Arnott,  has  ,  Miss  Mercey,  the  lost  occupier  of  the  mansicuL  ibr 
^een  recently  removed.  When  I  visited  the  a  small  copy  of  this  photograph.  The  south  noBt 
house  with  Mr.  Arnott  we  omitted  to  notice,  was  Palhidianised  about  the  middle  of  the  bit 
^and  no  one  else  seems  to  have  noticed)  that  the  century.  The  drawing  in  the  Guildhall  iUnir 
four  comers  of  the  ceiling  are  also  ornamented  tuxied  Li/8on8  does  not  in  the  least  resemble  ths 
with  heraldic  devices.  These  are  as  follows : —  house,  and  was  probably  placed  in  the  book  hj 
(1)  the  arms  of  Ulster;  (2)  a  ducal  coronet — a     mistake. 

part  only  of  the  crest  of  the  Hartopps;  (8)  a  I  subjoin  an  abstract  of  the  will  of  Geneitl 
coat  which  I  recognised  as  the  arms  of  Coke  of  Fleetwood,  recorded  in  the  Prero^atire  Court  of 
Melbourne — gules,  three  crescents  and  a  canton  :  Canterbury :  — 

or;  (4)  a  sun  in  splendour  or,  which  is  the  crest  j  «i^  Charles  ffleetwood,  of  Stoke  Newincton,  ia  tbi 
of  the  Cokes.  This  discovery  identifies  at  least  County  of  Middlesex,  Esq^  being,  throogh  the  modssf 
the  date  of  the  ceiling,  as  Sir  Edward  Hartopp,  .  theLord,  in  health  and  memory,  do  make,"  &e.  "  Flnl|I 
who  died  in  March  100 J,  married  Mary,  daughter  I  commend  my  Soulc  and  Spirit  into  the  hinds  (J^^ 
^f  Qii.  Tr.hr,  nrAr^  ^f  \f  Jk^„,«^  tu'^c  L  ♦!,«.  i„^-,  '  clous  God  and  father,  through  our  Lord  Jmus  GhitttiBgr 
of  Sir  John  Coke  of  Melbourne.    This  is  the  lady     ^^^  j^^,,^  ^.^.^  ^„^l,,i      ^^  ^  ^   ^^^  upon  the iii- 

who  was  General  Fleetwoods  third  wife:  a  fact  i  nutcd  Rdrhteouaness  of  Christ  for  myJoatiflestton-Siidli 


putcd  Righteousness  of  Christ  formyJastifleatioii,^ 
which  was  discovered,  and  is  set  forth  with  evi-     the  vertue  of  tliat  righteouanesB  doe  I  hope  to  iliad  ^ 


dence,  by  Colonel  Chester  ("  N.  &  Q.,"  4"»  S.  ii. 
600).     General  Fleetwood  and   his  son-in-law, 
Sir  John  Hartonp,  occupied  this  house  together, 
in  the  manner  tnat  was  so  usual  in  former  days. 
Mb.  Abnotx  was  probably  induced  to  refer  Dr. 


the  greate  day  of  the*  Lord."    My  body  to  be  bwM  la 
the  same  grave,  or  as  near  at  may  be  to  ray  Isit 
wife.*    Debts,  wages,  &c.,  to  be'  paid  within 


*  lie  was  tooordiDKly  bnilid  with  her  In  IMP 
Fields,  where  his  tomb  reniaiB%  near  the  tank  «f  fit 


4*  S.  UL  May  4, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


363 


death.  To  my  daughter,  the  Lady  Elizabeth  Ilartopp, 
£100,  as  a  last  expression  of  my  thaijkfulhiess  for  her 
constant  deare  love  and  duty  sliee  hath  alwayes  mani- 
fested unto  me.  I  give  unto  deare  daua:hter  Carter 
£100.  To  my  cousin  Mary  Waterson  £20,  over  and 
above  the  £20  my  last  dear  wife  owed  her  by  bond,  which 
I  now  direct  my  executor  to  pay.  To  Ann  Pace  £10  for 
myself,  and  £10  more  which  my  last  wife  gave  her. 
[Two  devises  left  blank  follow.]  'l  give  to  the  poor  dis- 
tressed people  of  God  £200,  such  as  my  executor,  with 
two  of  mv  trustees  hereafter  named  (Sir  John  Ilartopp 
to  be  one)  shall  think  lit  objects  of  charity;  £10  to  be 
paid  to  the  poor  of  that  Society  with  whom  I  have  had 
Christian  Comm'ion  in  the  gosple ;  as  also  £t>  to  my 
ancient  friend  James  Berry,  Esq',  and  £3  to  M'  Howard, 
Minister  of  the  Gospel,  and  to  M'  lliomas  Taylor, 
Minijiter  of  the  Gospel  at  Cambridge,  and  M*  Pelloe, 
Minister  of  the  Gospel  at  Sudbury ;  and  £2  to  any  others 
that  I  shall  name  in  a  paper  behind  me.  I  give  and 
devise  to  Sir  John  Hartopp,  Bart.,  Samuel  Deaborrow, 
Doctor  of  physic;  Capt.  John  Nicholas,  and  Nathaniel 
Gould,  merchant,  their  heirs  and  assigns,  all  my  Manor 
or  Lordship  of  Bnrrough,  aliat  Burrough  Castle,  co.  Suf- 
folk, in  trust  to  pay  legacies,  d'C,  and  afterwards  to 
convey  same  to  my  son  and  heir.  Smith  Fleetwood,  and 
his  heirs  for  ever.  To  each  of  my  said  trustees  £5  for 
mourning.  And  whereas  there  is'a  debt  due  to  me  from 
my  son  Bendish,*  my  will  is  that  mv  executor  shaU  not 
<le'mand  the  said  dcl)t  till  God  shall  in  his  provideuce 
make  a  comfortable  provision  for  his  wife  &nd  children. 
My  son  Smith  Fleetwood  to  be  sole  executor. 

"Signed    January  10,  1680,  in  presence  of  Edward 
Terr\',  Mary  Waterson,  John  Wealshdale. 

*'  Proved  by  Smith  Fleetwood  in  P.  C.  C.  Nov.  2, 1C92. 

"  Registered  Fane,  201." 

I  am  at  present  unable  to  discover  the  will  of 
Sir  Edward  Ilartopp,  which  might  throw  light  on 
the  exact  date  of  the  house,  which  I  cannot  help 
suspecting  is  nearer  ie?)ip.  Charles  I.  than  Eliza- 
beth. The  parish  Registers  of  Stoke  Newington 
(which  I  have  been  permitted  to  examine  by  the 
courtesy  of  the  Rev.  Prebendary  Jackson)  contain 
many  entries  of  the  related  families  of  Fleetwood, 
Hartopp,  Gould,  St.  John,  Cooke,  and  Ilurlock; 
and  as  these  entries  have  never  been  printed  ver- 
batim (and  some  have  not  been  printed  at  all), 
they  are  here  given  exactly  as  they  appear  in  the 
Register.  Space  does  not  admit  of  my  explaining 
them  in  detail;  but  it  may  be  mentioned  that 
Col.  Chester  has  conclusively  shown  ('*N.  &  Q." 
4^»»  S.  ii.  600)  that  the  entry  of  the  burial  of 
Bridget  Fleetwood,  in  1G81,  does  not  refer  to 
Fleetwood's  second  wife,  the  daughter  of  the  Pro- 
tector. She  was,  as  Col.  Chester  subsequently 
ascertained,  buried  at  St.  Ann's,  Blackfriars,  July 
1, 1CC2.     A  few  notes  are  apparently  required,  and 

Owen.  The  original  inscription  is  worn  away,  but  the 
names  Lieut.-General  Fleetwood,  and  Dame  Mary  Har- 
topp, have  been  recat  on  the  sides  of  the  monument. 

*  Bridget  Ireton,  granddaughter  of  the  Protector,  and 
danghter-in-law  of  Fleetwood,  lived  at  Fleetwood  House 
until  her  marriage,,  in  1G69,  to  Thomas  Bendysb,  of  Gray^s 
Inn.  She  is  well  known  as  one  of  the  most  eccentric  and 
remarkable  women  of  her  time.  Her  sisters,  Jaoe  and 
Mary  Ireton,  also  lived,  under  the  care  of  General  Fleet- 
wood, in  Fleetwood  House. 


are  given  as  briefly  as  possible,  within  brackets. 
Further  information  of  these  families,  and  of 
Fleetwood  House,  may  bo  found  in  Robinson's 
History  of  Stoke  Nev:inyton  ;  Lysons*  Environs  of 
London,  under  Newington ;  Brown's  History  of 
Stoke  Newington,  in  Bib.  Top.  Brit,^  No.  9  and 
No.  14;  Noble's  i/oMse  ofCfomiceU,  under  St.  John 
and  Fleetwood  j  and  in  Stoke  I^ewingtonj  a  Lecture^ 
by  the  Rev.  Thomas  Jackson,  Rector  of  the  pariah. 

Baptisms. 

1672.  Charles  Hartop,  Esq»",  the  sone  of  S'  John  Hartop, 
K*  and  Baronnet,  was  Borne  in  the  parish  of 
stoak  newington,  the  fift  day  of  June.  [Pro- 
bablv  baptised  in  the  Puritan  form  at  home.] 

1G89-90.  Elizabeth,  the  Daughter  of  ffranois  S*.  John, 
Esq*",  and  Mary  his  wife,  was  bapt:  the  22°* 
January.  [Mrs.  St.  John  was  daughter  of  Sir 
Nath.  Gould,  by  Frances  Ilartopp.^ 

169G-7.  Walter,  The  son  of  ffrancis  S»  John,  Esq',  was 
Baptized  the  2P*  of  January. 

1697.  Elizabeth,  the  D.  of  M'  James *Gould,  bapt.  1^  Oct. 

M.\RKIE1>. 

1677-8.  M'  Nathaniel  Carter  of  Ycarmouth,  and  M'l* 
Mary  ffleetwood,  ware  Married  by  Licence  the 
21»«offfcb.  1677. 

1696.  John  Allen  and  Mary  Hartopp  were  Maried  by 
Banns  the  12'»»ofKov. 


Burials. 


1673. 


was 


Mary    Smith,   from    my  Coll.    ffleetwood's, 
buried  December  the  8^'',  1673. 

1674.  M*"'*  Ann  Hartop,  the  daughter  of  S*"  John  Hartop, 

Barronet,  was  buried  the  8*»»  day  of  May. 

1675.  Charles  ffleetwood,  the  sone  of  M'  Smith  ffleet- 

wood,  was  Buried  12*»»  Oct. 
1675  6.  Edward  Hartopp,  the  son  of  S""  John  Hartopp, 
was  buried  the  2o**»  of  January. 

1676.  M*"  Charles  ffleetwood,  the  sone  of  Esq'  flSeetwood, 

was  Buried  the  \A^  of  May, 

1679.  John,  The  son  of  S'  John  Hartope,  Barronett,  was 
buried  y«  28'»»  of  May,  in  Wolleh  :  Church. 

1680-1.  Mary,  The  wife  of  Es'q'  ffleetwood  y«  younger,  of 
this  parish,  was  buried  y«  21«»  of  January  in 
Wollen  :  Church.  [Daughter  of  Sir  Edward 
Ilartopp  and  Marv  Coke;  baptised  at  Buck- 
minster,  April  17,  1639;  married  Smith  Fleet- 
wood— son  and  heir  of  the  general — in  1666. J 

1681.  Bridgett  ffleettwood  was  buried  y<^  5"»  of  September, 
in  Wollen,  according  to  an  act  of  Parliament 
in  y*  Case  prouided,  as  was  attested  within  y« 
tinie  limited  before  Justice  Cheyney  :  Church. 

1683-4.  A  still  borne  child  of  M'  Smith  ffleetwood  was 
buried  in  Wollen  y«  3l«»  of  January  :  Church. 

.  Anne  ffleettwood,  the  wife  of  M""  Smith  ffleettwood, 

was  buried  the  29*^  of  ffebruaryin  Wollen: 
Church. 

1691.  Hellen  Hartop  was  buried  in  Wollen  the  8«»  of 
December. 

1707-8.  William  Ranee,  Seruant  of  S^"  John  Hartop,  bur. 
26*1'  Jan. 

1708-9.  Smith  ffleetwood,  Esq',  of  the  Parish  of  Arming- 
land,  in  the  County  of  Norfolk,  was  byried  y« 
4*^  of  februarv.  Certified  by  Erasmus  ]i)arle, 
Esq.  J.P.  for  Norfolk. 

1711.  Dame  Elizabeth  Hartopp  was  buried  in  woollen, 
the  26^  day  of  November,  1711.  [Daughter  of 
General  Fleetwood  by  his  first  wife ;  married  Sir 
John  Hartopp  in  1666.) 

.  Madam  Gold  was  buried  in  wooUen  y«  28*  of  Nor*. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  a.  IX.  Mat  ^nt 


and 


1730. 
i731. 


[Frances,  daaghter  of  Sir  John  Hartopp 
Eliz.  Fleetwood ;  wife  of  Sir  Nath.  Gould.] 

1720.  The  lady  St.  John  Carried  into  the  Countrey,  De- 
cember 12,  1720. 

1722.  S'  John  Hartopp,  Bar',  was  buried  in  the  Church, 
April  11,  1722,  and  paid  Information  money. 
[Buried  in  linen,  for  which  a  fme  had  to  be  paid. 
Baptized  at  Buckminster,  Oct.  31,  1637.1 

1728.  Elizabeth  Fleetwood!  Buried  in  A  velvett  Coffin  in 
the  Church,  and  Thomas  Price  buried  in  woollen, 
June  30.  [Sic  in  Heg.  Many  entries  of  this 
kind  occur.} 

.  S<^  Nathanel  (lonld  was  Caried  and  buried  in  the 

Country,  July  30,  1728. 

— — .  Justice  Cooke's  Daufxhter  was  buried  in  A  velvet 
Coffin,  Nov™  U«\  17i8.     [Frances,  dau^jhter  of 
Thomas  Cooke,  Kitq.,  by  Eliz.,  daughter  of  Sir 
Nath.  Gould.    Ob.  aged  six  years.] 
Mv  Lady  Hartopp  was  buried  in  a  velvet  Coffin, 

'Sept.  22n«»,  1730,  in  the  Church. 
Ellen  fflectwood  buried  in  a  Velvett  Coffin,  July 
23,  1731. 

1738-9,  Feb.  15.  Martha  Hartopp,  in  woUen  only. 

1741,  Jan.  15.  Bridgett  Hartopp,  in  linnen. 

1744,  April  18.  Carolina  Fleetwood,  iu.wollen. 

1748-9,  Jan.  2.  Mary  Hartopp. 

1749,  April  14.  Frances  Fleetwood. 

,  Dec.  1.  Margaret  Cook.  [Daughter  of  Thomas  and 

Eliz.  Cooke  of  Fleetwood  Uouse.    Ob.  aged  23 
years.] 

1754,  March  15.  Klizat)eth  Hartopp. 

1755,  April  23.  Dorothy  Hartopp. 

1761,  Nov.  7.  Jane  Fleetwood,  in  IJnnen. 

1762,  Jan.  28.  Sir  John  Hartopp,  Baro*. 

1763,  Feb.  3.  Elizabeth  Cooke,  in  Linnen.    [  Daughter  of 

Sir  Nath.  Gould  ;  widow  of  Thomas  Cooke.  Ob. 
aged  03.] 
— ,  Apru  22.  Sarah  Hartropp. 

1764,  April  6.  Ann  Hartopp. 

1766,  April  4.  Sarah  Hurlock.    [Daughter  and  coheiress 

of  Sir  John  Hartopp,  the  last  baronet,  and  wife 

of  Joseph  Hurlock.  J 
1793,  Aug.  15.  Joseph  Hurlock,  E«q^  (of  Chelsea),  aged  78. 

T Husband  of  above  Sarah  Hurlock :    he  also 

bved  in  Fleetwood  House.] 

The  earlier  registers  of  the  Hartopp  family  are 
to  be  found  at  Buckminster,  in  Leicestershire, 
and  are  printed  in  Nichols's  Ilistoi-y  of  that 
county.  The  two  following  entries  at  Stoke  Xew- 
ington  may  possihly  relate  to  Dr.  John  Owen,  all 
of  whose  children  died  in  his  lifetime. 

1664.  Judcth,the  Daughter  of  M<^  John  Owen,  was  Buryed 

the  2l)'»»  of  May. 

1665.  Mathe*,-  the  Dnughtcr  of  M»"  Owing,  was 

Buryed  the  9**>  of  A  prill  in  ye  year  1665. 

I  have  only  to  add,  that  the  demolition  of 
Fleetwood  Ilouae  is  rapidly  proceeding,  and 
that  some  of  the  more  ancient  and  interesting 
rooms  have  been  removed.  A  street  of  small 
houses  is  being  carried  across  the  site  of  the  gar- 
den, and  the  materials  of  the  mansion  are  used  as 
required  for  the  erection  of  these  houses. 

Edwabd  J.  Saoe. 

Stoke  Newington,  April,  1872. 


The  house  of  the  Fleetwoods  in  Church  Street, 
Stoke  Newington,  is  about  to  be  demolished  for 


building  purposes.    It  is  only  a  few  yean  _^__ 
the  house  once  occupied  by  Daniel  Defoe|  (Hfy  a 
few  paces  from  it,  was  cleared  away  far  a  xoai^ 
which  was  named  after  him,  but  has  never  beoi 
built  upon.    Mrs.  Barbaald*a  old  home,  in  tha 
same  street,  was  long  ago  converted  into  a  diM 
and  has  been  from  time  to  time  eo  "  impiovet^ 
and  modernised  that  there  is  vexy  amall  TBttist 
left  of  the  original  building.    It  would  be  well  if 
the  pulling  down  of  this  huge  rambling  old  pUe^ 
with  its  '^  ins  and  outs,"  its  nooka  and  oomen^  ill 
ornamented  ceilings  (one  of  which  bore  foritioenbi^ 
piece  some  armonal  bearings  said  by  thehMtOffna 
of  the  place  to  have  belonged  to  the  Fleetwood^ 
mily,  and  which  in  the  process  of  removal  haebeea 
unfortunately  broken  into  three  pieces),  and  its  4faa 
traditions  were  carefully  watched.    By&vovef 
my  old  friend,  a  oontribntor  to  '<  N.  ft  Q.,"  Mm. 
IIammack,  I  have  enjo]fed  a  ramble  over  the  oli 
house  to-day,  and  I  think  it  promiaes  some  di^ 
closures  to  the  careful  watcher  of  its  zemovd.   ' 
There  have  long  been  vague  whispera  of  eellela 
its  ^alls,  and  of  subterranean  ways  from  ile 
bricked- up  vaults;    but  they  may  torn  oat  m 
shadowy  as  the  ghost  stories,  with  which,  in  eo^ 
mon  with  all  such  time-honoured  ivy-dad  Uh 
torical  mansions,  it  has  been  associated.    At  all 
events,    I  drop  the  hint   to   those   Tsadsii  of 
''  N.  &  Q.''  who  might  think  it  worth  the  lide  ia 
a  Stoke  Newington  "  Favourite  "  omidbai^  to  look 
on  occasionally  as  the  work  (tf  demolitUB  pl^ 
ceeds,  for  the  chance  of  something  "  tnndiw  afi* 
The  old  mansions  with  which  the  whilom  rSBSf^ 
of  Stoke  Newington  and  the  ad^jaoent.vill^  dT 
Newington  Green  were  studded  aregmdoilly  pi^ 
ing  awny ;  but  the  inquiring  tiavellw  will  sallM 
some  remains  of  palatial  rewdenceey  with  tha'MMt 
of  the  Tudors  about  their  walla,  on  the  GiM 
and  in  Church  Street.    The  birth-pkoa  of  BoM    • 
the  banker-poet,  also  remains,  though  ahcn  Oi  Iki 
once  fair  grounds ;  and  the  mound  on  which  Dk 
Isaac  Watts  mildly  luxuriated  has  been  laMSHl 
by  those  who   converted  Sir  Thomaa  AjM^ 
Park  into  a  burial  ground.    To  their  Imbow  M 
it  said,  they  have  also  preserved,  mteotedL  ad 
supported  a  majestic  old  cedsTy  wnioh  poMi^ 
dates  its  birth  l>efore  anything  else  now  itHttv 
'  in  old  Stoke  Newington.    In  the  ^aiden  of  tft 
Dispensary  in  the  lugh  Street  is  still  in  IMlM 
bearing  a  mulberry  tree,  whidi  is  ooky  its  jaalv  .  ■ 
by  a  mere  century  or  so.    .But  of  **Tha  jElfM    , 
of  Stoke  Newington ''  Shiriey  Hibhart  haa  i*- 
ready  discoursed.    I  wish  there  wen  woMite 
hope  that  they  might  be  pemiliCad  to  ftM^ 
close  their  natural  existence  in  a  nollla  aal  |ii^ 
turesque  decay,  to  give  she    r  to  the  await  iiit* 
birds  that  have  not  yet  <     ta  dflMrled  va;  mk 
the  axe  is  tbreateninf  th       dd 
gar  boys,  who  are  only  m    i  0 
dirty  faces,  bmtish  feator      lad'loiril 


4*  8.  IX.  Mat  4,  *72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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are  peeling  their  bark — gns  percolating  tlirough 
leaky  pipes  in  the  earth  is  poisoning  their  roots, 
and  coal  smoke  from  countless  new  chimneys 
choking  their  pores  above ;  and  Stoke  Nowington, 
the  old  picturesque  suburb  of  thirty  years  ago, 
faaA  contracted  the  disease  which  it  rei«isted  longer 
than  any  other  neighbourhood,  and  is  suffering 
from  a  fearful  eruption  of  bricks  and  mortar  of  a 
very  low  type  and  of  the  most  malignant  charac- 
ter. Let  us  hope,  then,  that  such  of  its  old  fea- 
tures as  remain  may  be  photographed  or  preserved 
by  pen  or  pencil;  and,  after  allowing  Defoe's 
house  to  be  carted  away  as  old  bricks,  without 
(so  far  as  I  know)  a  more  intelligent  being  to 
"  make  note  of"  it  than  the  bricklaver's  labourer 
who  pickaxed  it,  I  am  ashamed  to  let  Fleetwood 
House  be  •* improved  off  the  face  of  the  earth" 
without  letting  the  readers  of  *'  X.  &  Q."  know  of 
its  impending  fate.  Alexander  Andrews. 

Stoke  Xewington. 


rilOTOGRAPITIC  PKIN'TIXG. 
(4^»>  S.  ix.  300,  330.) 

As  an  amateur  taking  considerable  interest  in 
all  matters  connected  with  pliotography,  I  venture 
to  give  the  information  sought  by  your  correspon- 
dent Tewars  in  reference  to  book  illustration  by 
photographic  means.  There  are  at  present  several 
modes  of  photographic  printing  suitable  and  avail- 
able for  book  illustration  and  in  actual  commercial 
working.  First,  there  is  what  is  termed  '*  Wood- 
bury-type,"  from  the  name  of  the  inventor,  Walter 
Woodbury.  It  consists  in  the  use  of  a  metal 
plate  produced  from  a  gelatine  matrix,  the  result 
of  pure  photographic  action,  due  to  the  presence 
of  bichromate  of  potash.  From  this  plate,  -by 
a  special  method  of  printing,  proofs  or  prints  are 
produced  in  black,  or  an^'  coloured  permanent  ink, 
without  any  further  recourae  to  light.  The  result* 
are  exfremely  beautiful,  with  all  the  delicacy  and 
ffradation  of  tone  of  a  photograph.  The  party  work- 
inir  this  process  is  \  mcent  Brooks,  the  eminent 


gelatine 

film,  made  sen.'^itive  to  the  action  of  light  by  means 
of  bichromate  of  potash,  is  used  as  the  printing 
0ur£ace  or  block.  The  light  acting  on  this  sensi- 
tive film  through  a  photographic  negative,  effects 
a  change  in  the  condition  of  the  surface,  so  that 
when  treated  with  water  some  parts  absorb  and 
others  do  not  absorb  it,  thus  rendering  it  capable 
of  taking  or  repelling  printers'  ink,  when  applied 
to  it  by  a  roller.  Impressions  may  thus  be  taken 
in  an  ordinary^printing  press,  and  copy  after  copy 
prodaced  without  any  lurther  recourse  to  light. 
Both  of  theae  are  well  adapted  for  book  illustra- 
tioQy  and  can  be  produced  at  a  very  reasonable 


cost.  The  Ileliotype  Company  have  a  place  of 
business  in  Regent  Street,  No.  210. 

A  similar  process  to  the  above,  and  equally 
adapted  for  illustration,  is  worked  by  the  "  Auto- 
type Company,"  as  it  is  termed.  The  address 
is  30,  Hath  bone  Place.  They  turn  out  excellent 
work.  This  company  also  works  another  process, 
termed  "  Carbi^n  printing,"  the  results  of  which 
are  extremely  fine ;  but  inasmuch,  as  the  action  of 
light  is  required  for  the  production  of  each  copy, 
it  is  obvious  it  is  not  available  at  all  times,  and  it 
is  therefore  not  to  be  resorted  to  on  all  occa- 
sions, and  when  large  numbers  are  required. 
Their  productions  are,  nevertheless,  very  -fine,  and 
a  visit  to  the  Autotype  Company's  Ciallery  will 
well  repay  any  one  making  a  pilgrimage  to  it. 
The  specimens  there  shown  of  reproductions  of 
drawings  of  ancient  masters,  in  the  veritable 
colours  used  by  them,  are  marvellous  fac-similea. 
The  process  is  due  to  the  action  of  light  through 
a  negative  on  a  sensitive  film  of  bichromatised 
gelatine  carrying  a  pigment  of  carbon  or  other 
coloured  material.  W  here  the  light  acts  the  gela- 
tiife  becomes  insoluble,  and  hence,  when  warm 
water  is  applied,  portions  only  are  dissolved  away, 
leaving  the  film  of  varying  thickue&s,  and  thus 
producing  a  delicate  picture  in  monochrome.  This 
process  is  extremely  simple,  and  needs  no  other 
apparatus  than  that  at  the  command  of  any  pho- 
tographer. 1  have  produced  many  prints  by  thiB 
means  without  any  dilliculty. 

All  the  above  are  well  suited  to  book  illustra'- 
tion. 

There  are  also  the  processes  termed  photo- 
zincography and  photo-lithography  worked  by 
various  firms,  but  these  are  only  suited  to  produc- 
tions of  a  certain  character,  viz.  maps  and  plans 
and  other  work,  where  the  ell'ect  is  duo  to  lines 
and  hatching.  I*.  Le  Neve  Foster. 


jonx  Dix. 


(4»»>  S.  ix.  294.) 

Is  John  Dix  dead  P  Mr.  Walter  TnoRWBURr 
might  deem  it  worth  while  to  investigate  this 
question.  I  knew  the  man  personally  many  years 
ago ;  knew  his  style,  which  had  a  peculiarity  of 
favour;  think  I  have  recently  recognised  that 
flavour  in  South  Wales  iournalism.  Perhaps  ha 
reads  *'N.  &  Q.,*'  and  will  show  sign. 

As  to  his  romancing  about  Chatterton,  does  it 
much  matter  P  I  sometimes  wonder  whether 
Wordsworth  had  eveU  tried  to  read  the  poetic 
forger,  when  he  wrote  concerning  — 

"  the  marvellous  boy. 
The  sleepless  soul  that  periA«hed  in  its  pride." 

I  have  often  wished  I  had  asked  Wordsworth 
the  question  when  he  deigned  in  my  mere  boy- 
hood to  t^  to  me.    I  have  never  been  able  to 


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NOTES  AXD  QUERIES. 


[4»k  &  IX.  Hat  4»  7S. 


find  a  verse  of  whnt  I  deem  poetry  in  all  Chatter- 
ton's  writings,  and  shall  bo  infinitely  obliged  to 
any  one  who  will  find  one  for  me. 

MAKROCnSIR. 


Mr.  Thornbxjrt  seems  to  me,  in  his  paper  on 
John  Dix,  to  have  been  guilty  of  a  few  inaccu- 
racies.   I  happen  to  have  a  copy  of  — 

"The  Life  of  Thomas  Chntterton,  inclading  bis  un- 

EublUhed  Poems  and  Correspondence.     B3*  John  Dix. 
lOndon :  Hamilton  ±  Adams,  1U37/'  12mo. 

Such  is  the  title-page  of  what  I  conclude  must 
be  the  first  edition.  No  mention  is  made  of  its 
being  published  at  Bristol  (as  Mr.  Thornbxjrt 
states),  though  a  note  at  the  end  tells  me  that  it 
was  printed  there.  The  copy  before  me  contains 
viii.  336  pp.,  pretty  closely  printed ;  and  standing 
as  it  does  6J  x  4\  inches,  could  hardly  ever  have 
been  an  8vo.  Mine  has  been  bound  in  calf;  and 
even  if  we  make  allowance  for  the  maw  of  the 
binderi  ever  voracious  of  margin,  we  must  con- 
clude that  it  never  came  up  to  a  medium-sized 
octavo,  like  one  of  the  Student's  Mamtabj  7  J  inches 
high,  or  Seeley's  Livt/f  9  inches  high.  Mr.  Thorn- 
BURY  seems  neither  to  notice  nor  contradict  the 
words  underneath  the  portrait,  viz.  "  From  a  pic- 
ture in  the  possession  of  George  Weare  Bracken- 
hridge,  Esq."  It  seems  to  me  that  a  well-sifted 
and  truthful  Life  of  Chatterton,  and  critical  edi- 
tion of  his  works,  are  each  a  desideratum.  As  far 
as  I  know,  neither  exist.  I  should  also  like  to 
ask  if  this  edition  of  Dix's  Life  of  ChatteHon  be 
rare  ?  II.  S.  Skipton. 

Tivoli  Cottage,  Cheltenham. 


RAE'S  MS.  HISTORY  OF  THE  PRESBYTERY  OF 

PENPONT. 

(4'**  S.  vi.  passitn.) 

EsPEDARE  inquires  whether  this  manuscript 
history  be  not  the  same  as  Sibbald's  manuscript 
found  in  the  Advocates'  Library.  It  is  altogether 
different,  as  I  have  compared  it  with  what  appears 
in  the  appendix  to  Symson's  large  description  of 
Galloway.  As  Espedare  says,  Sibbald  derived 
his  information  from  the  Ilev.  William  Black, 
A.M.  (born  1018,  died  1684),  minister  of  Close- 
bum,  in  the  presbytery  of  Penpont.  I  see  in  Dr. 
Scott's  Fasti  Ecclesice  Scoticanfe  that  Mr.  BlacF 
was  a  man  of  some  note.  lie  was  deprived  in 
1681  for  not  taking  the  test,  but  on  petitioning 
the  privy  council,  was  allowed  till  March  16  fol- 
lowing to  take  it  before  the  archbishop.  His 
account  of  the  parishes  is  slight  in  comparison  with 
that  which  Rae  (born  1670,  died  1748)  furnishes, 
though  liae  is  rather  diffuse,  and  gives  much  that 
is  of  little  importance,  nor  docs  he  include  all  the 
parishes.  What 'I  possess  is  the  account  of  the 
parishes  of  Morton,  Durisdeer,  Glencaim,  Pen- 
pont; Keir^  and  Tynron }  but  probably  the  most 


interesting  part  of  the  manuBcript  to  anti^furiei 
is  his  notes  on  old  families  of  Dumfriea«hiie.    J 
have  long  been  in  search  of  the.  original  mann- 
script,  of  which  I  have  merely  a  transcript^  and 
possibly  only  of  a  portion  of  it,  which  was  nude 
about  the  year  1826  by  Mr.  Hunter,  the  wesent 
schoolmaster  of  Carmunnoch,  for  the  late  Kobnt 
McTurk;  Esq.,  of  Hastings  Hall  in  Dumfrie88liu& 
I  communicated  with  Mr.  Hunter,  but  the  dis- 
tance of  time  is  so  great  that  he  has  only  an  in- 
distinct recollection  of  the  original  mannseript 
Anglo-Scotus  (4^  S.  vi.  63)  suggested  that  m 
manuscript  would  be  found  in  the  Advocates* 
Librai^,  but  the  late  learned  librarian,  Mr.  Hal- 
kett,  kindly  *^  made  a  thorough  examination  of  the 
catalogue  of  MSS./'  and  found  that  it  was  not  in 
the  library.    It  was  left  by  Mr.  Bae  to  the  ein 
of  the  presbvtery  of  Penpont,  and  was  kept  bf 
them  carefully  for  many  years  with  their  predij- 
terial  records.    I  have  traced  it  as  still  in  odit- 
ence  about  the  year  1834,  but  it  then  drops  oat  of 
sight,  and  I  fear  will  never  be  'recovered,    b 
addition  to  the  transcript  which  I  possess,  then  ii 
one  which  1  gave  to  Mr.  Gilchrist  OUurk,  duo- 
berlainto  theDuke  of  Buccleuch;  another  amoii| 
the  manuscript  papers  of  the  late  Mr.  Arnnden  01 
Ban  arg  Tower;  and  I  have  been  told  that  Mr. 
McTurk^s  copv  has  been  given  to  the  Daks  of 
Buccleuch.     I  record  these  facta  in  case  at  aaj 
future  period  inquiry  should  be  made  respecting 
this  MS. 

In  regard  to  the  Hev.  Peter  Hae,  I  find  thi 
following  account  in  Dr.  Scott's  Talnable  woik^ 
to  which  I  have  already  referred  :^ 

"Kirkbride,  1703.  P^ter  Rae,  derk  to  the  Kirk  to- 
8ion  and  Synod  of  Dumfrieii,  was  a  atudoit  of  diviidtyk 
1 C97,  licensed  bv  the  preabvterv,  28'<*  Oct.  1699,  &c. ;  tmr 
lated  from  Kirkbride  11^  kay,  1782,  to  Kirtomadl 
died  29^^  Dec.  1748,  in  his  seventy-eiffbth  year  and  fbin^ 
sixth  of  his  ministry.    Like  the  odehrited  JoaniM  SI 
Sacro  Bosco,  he  was  dLstingulshed  as  a  pbiloeo|ilMr  isi 
astronomer  as  well  as  a  divine.    Nor  was  he  ma  M  il  * 
mechanic  mathematician,  and  bistoiiaiL    An  artns^ 
mical  chime-dock  in  the  Castle  of  Dramlanrlff^msdtsrf 
constructed  in  all  its  narta  with  his  own  banda,  M^f^ 
proved  his  mechanical  powers,  but  aUo  Us  philosM^M 
knowledge.    He  left  a  history  of  the  ptrtabea  n  tki 
presbytery  of  Penpont,  which  baa  not  been  pnbUiM. 
lie  married,  19'^  July,  Agnes,  eldest  daughter  of  JolM 
Corsane  of  Meiklenox,  late  bailHe  of  Dnmfirtos,  and  tad 
two  sons  and  two  daughters — Robert,  Jobn,  JsmKi  ni 
Ap:nes.   Publications :  Hittorif  of  the  RebtUhm  (DaoAfklb 
1718,  4to)  ;    Gof^l  Miniaters,  Ckn^9  Amhaaaaim  U 
sermon,  £din.  1733,  8vo) ;  A  TVtafiM  on  LmmMOmM 
and  Perjury  (Edin.  1749.)" 

It  is  curious  to  find  a  clerffyman  in  a  MMiti 
country  district  distinguished  in  dock-maUq^ 
but  the  mystery  is  partly  solved  when  we  loov 
that  he  was  the  son  of  a  dockmaker  in  DomftiM^ 
and  he  would  no  doubt  profit  by  Ua  Calhet'a  ■•- 
chanical  genius  in  his  early  yean. 

It  will  be  recollected  that  I  lefarad  (4*  fLJBU 
206)  to  a  MS.  poem  of  fbn    i«a  pagea 


.-.^•i* 


4"  S.  IS.  Mat  4,  "72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


367 


written  out  by  Peter.RHe,  and  beloDicd  to  liim, 
"Apr.  20,  W."  In  an  old  volume  of  pamphlets 
entitled— 

"A  e?M»  wherin  Xobles,  Priests,  and  People  may  see 
Ibe  Lord'a  Contrnvenics  at;ain»t  itritain,  Ijv  liubtrt  Ker 
Fever,  ill  (iiiuierlown,  printed  in  llio  year  ITID," 

vhich  my  ftiend,  the  Rev.  Dr.  Tliomas  Gordon  of 
Newtatlfe,  bas  brought  uDder  mj*  notice,  I  find  an 
attack  on  Mr,  ^ter  Rae  in  doperel  verse.  TLo 
whole  Toliinie  is  a   strange   medley  of  prose  and 

Eoetry  of  tbe  baldest  kind.    Rae'had  just  pub- 
shed  his  Jlistonj  of  the  Hcbcl/lan  o/ 1715,  and 
Ker  does  not  tbitilc  printing  books  is  suitable  to  a 
~""'  ■  ;r  of  the  gospel.     Ileaays: — 
"  If  h«  a  right  Watcb-man  were  bred, 
Dutit  be  take  up  the  I'tiiiting  Trade  i 
.1.,....^..  ...   t ...  ,ni,  His  llanda, 


Thej 


is  dtrrm 


ir  Hire. 


And  he  ends — 

"  I  doubt,  Iben.  Printer  Peter  Kae." 
There  are  some  other  queries  of  EsPESARB  in 
regard  to  the  parish  of  Dalgarnoch  and  barony  of 
KyloBbem,  which  I  think  it  better  not  to  mix  up 
with  tbia  note  on  tbe  MS.  of  Peter  Rae. 

C.  T.  Rahaoe. 


SIR  BOYLE  ROCHE. 

(4'"  S.  ix.  202,  324.) 
Mr.  Pettei's  account  of  this  memorable  par- 
Bonage  is  not  entirely  free  from  either  errors  or 
defects.  IJe  does  not  give  hia  authority  for  his 
8l*temenl8,  but  I  find  they  are  founded,  in  great 
measure,  on  what  appeared  at  the  baronet's  death 
in  1807,  and  may  bs  seen  in  the  Gentleman'* 
Magaane,  vol.  Ixxvii.  p.  5941.  The  alterations  are 
for  the  worse.  The  obituary  notice  atatea  that  Sir 
Boyle  was  "descended  from  a  respectable  family, 
said  to  be  a  junior  branch  of  the  ancient  baronial 
ffttnily  of  lioche,  Viscount  I'ermoy";  but  this 
geems  to  be  merely  a  very  ordinary  form  of  con- 
jectural genealogy,  and  by  no  means  bears  out 
Sir  Jonah  Barrington's  assertion  that  "  he  had  a 
chum  to  the  title  of  Fermoy,  which,  however,  he 
never  pursued."  Mr.  Pbttet's  statements  as  to 
Sir  Boyle  Koche's   services  in  the  army  and  in 

Eirliament  are  repeated  from  the  obituary  notice: 
.  ut  in  regard  to  the  latter  are  there  better  es- 
preased.    It  is  said  that — 


"Onn 


iring  from  the  arm;  he  obtained  a  Mat  Id  Par- 
■hirt  he  iDoi  atmai/i  in  h'<t  p/act,  and  could  at 


I  This  account  is  much  more  probable  th^  what 
Mr.   I'ettet  asserts,   that  the  debate  was  "  con- 

'  verted  into  pleasant  discourse."  In  fact,  Sir  Boyle 
Itoche  seonis  to  have  been,  in  his  day,  a  prototype 
of  Sir  Joseph  Yorke  or  Mr.  Bemal  Osborne.  By 
his  being  made  the  mouthpiece  of  all  the  absurdi- 
ties that  have  ever  been  invented  in  the  way  of 
Irish  bulls  or  blunders,  his  true  merits  are  de- 
graded. This  charge  of  unparalleled  blundering 
was  the  way  by  which,  perhaps,  hia  contemporaries 
were  accuetonied  to  revenge  themselves  for  tha 
jokea  he  passed  upon  them  :  but  its  unffdmesa  and 
want  of  truth  was  expressly  noticed  at  the  time 
of  bis  death,  when  it  was  mentioned  that  "  It  has 
not  been  more  common  to  attribute  other  men'a 
jests  to  Joe  Miller,  than  every  Irish  blunder  to  the 
worthy  baronet,"  The  real  blunders,  in  matters 
of  fact,  not  modes  of  expresaiou — rest  with  hia 
biographers.  Hia  wife  was  not  the  daughter  of 
"  an  Inah  baronet,"  nor  was  her  father,  as  Sir  Jonah 
Barrin^n  states.  Sir  John  Cave  :  she  was  Mary, 
eldest  daughter  of  Admiral  Sir  Thomas  FranklanOr 
of  Thirkleby  in  Yorkshire,  an  English  baronet. 
But  it  should  be  specified  that  Sir'  Bojle  Roche 
himself  was  a  baronet  of  the  kingdom  of  Ireland, 
being  styled  "of  Fermoy"  on  his  creation  in 
17S2.  It  is  also  an  omission  not  to  state  that  tha 
House  of  Commons  in  which  be  shone  was  that  of 
Ireland,  to  which  he  was  returned,  hut  for  what 
place  I  have  not  the  information  at  hand  to  say. 
Sir  Jonah  Barrington  writes,  no  doubt,  equally  at 
random,  when  he  terma  Sir  Boyle  Roche  "  Gentle- 
man Usher"  instead  of  Master  of  the  Ceremoniaa 
at  the  Court  of  Uublin ;  and  it  may  therefore  be 
worth  while  to  inquire  further  whether  Sir  Jonah 
be  right  in  his  assertion  that  Sir  Boyle  "  waa 
brother  to  the  famous  Tiger  Roche,  who  fought 
some  desperate  duel  abroad,  and  was  near  being 
hanged  for  it." 

Perhaps  some  correspondent  of  "N.  &  Q."  will 
be  able  to  identify  more  certainly  this  human 
tiger.  I  do  not  find  that  the  late  amiable  Mr. 
James  Roche  of  Cork,  in  his  Critical  Eunyt  by  <m 
Octogennrinn,  in  some  of  which  he  used  formerly 
to  enliven  the  pages  of  the  Gentiemim's  Magaxtn* 
with   many  interesting  personal  recollections,  haa 

noticed  either  of  his  remarkable  namesakes. 

J.  0.  N. 

If  the  two  subjoined  parliamentary  uttetancea 
did  Dot  emanate  from  Sir  Boyle  Roche,  I  thmb 
they  are  not  unworthy  of  him :  — 

"Mr.  Speaker,  I  boldly  aaawer  in  the  ifflrmBlivfr— 

"  Mr.  Speaker,  \(  I  bave  any  pr^adica  (gatnst  tba  hon. 
member,  it  is  in  bis  ftvoar." 

H.  A.  KrairBDT.  . 
W«(«rloo  Lodg^  Reading. 


368 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  8.  DL  Hat  4^*71 


THE  LITERARY  FORGERIES  OF  FOURMONT. 

(4«'  S.  ii.  2:18.) 

The  Abbi5  Michel  Fourmont,  Prt)fe88or  of  Sy- 
riac  Hi  the  Royal  College,  Chinese  interpreter  at 
tha  Bibliotheque  du  Koi,   and  member  of  the 
Academic  des  inscriptions,  was  sent  by  I^uis  XV. 
to  the  East  in  1728  for  the  purpose  of  purchas- 
ing manuscripts  and  collecting  inscriptions,     lie  ' 
visited  Constantinople,  and  then  proceeded  through 
Greece  and  the  Archipeliigo.     In  17o2  he  was  re-  ■ 
called,  and  returned  to  Paris,  having  reaped,  as  he  , 
alleged,  an  abundant    harvest     Besides  a  few  , 
manu.ocripts,  undoubtedly  genuine,  and  which  are  : 
still  in  the  national  library  at  l^aris,  he  professed 
to  have  brought  from  Greece  more  than  3000  in-  i 
script  ions  not  known  before.     He  had  discovered  a  , 
copy  of  the  laws  of  Solon  and  of  those  of  Agis,  the  | 
tsxt  of  many  treaties  of  alliance,  a  li.st  of  the  magis-  j 
trates  of  Sparta,  the  inscriptions  on  the  tombs  of  : 
Age»laus  and  Lysander,  and  the  pedigree  of  the" 
latter,  who  is  made  tenth  in  descent  from  King 
Theopompus.     Hi^  discoveries  in  Attica  were  not  i 
less  numerous  or  important  than  those  in  Pelo-  j 
pooDesus,  including  Usts  of  tribes,  prytanes  and 
archons,  a  decree  of  the  archons  on  the  price  of 
Jood,  a  decree  of  the  Amphictyonic  Council  in  the 
archx)U8hip  of  Hippodamus  (875  B.C.)  rehiting  to 
A  treaty  of  ^waco  between  the  principal  cities  of 
Greeco,  and  referred  to  by  Diodorus. 

These  inscriptions  ranged  in  date  from  15C0  li.c, 
the  assumed  date  of  King  Kurotas  (of  whom 
Fourmont  professed  to  have  discovertrd  au  inscrip- 
tion), to  the  time  of  Philip  of  Macedon.  He  boasted 
that  he  had  discovered  all  that  was  discoverable 
in  Greece,  and  that  the  world  would  be  indebted 
to  him  alone  for  all  that  had  not  up  to  that  time 
been  known.  His  vandalism  was  equal  to  his 
boasting.  In  his  letters  to  Frerot  and  Maurepas  he 
makes  a  merit— a  religious  one  apparently — of 
having  utterly  destroyed  the  Xemple  of  Apollo  at 
Amychc,  and  committed  other  equally  disgraceful 
ravages. 

On  liis  return  to  Paris  ho  was  in  no  hurry  to 
produce  his  discoveries  to  the  world.  He  published 
indeed  a  certain  number  of  inscriptions,  but  these 
did  not  include  the  laws  of  Solon  or  of  Agis ;  and 
upon  his  deatli,  which  occurred  in  1740,  no  traces 
of  tht»se  or  of  many  othtT  important  discoveries 
of  which  ho  had  boasted  were  found  amtmg  his 
papt^rs.  There  is,  however,  no  doubt  but  that  had 
ne  lived  he  would  have  forged  these  os^  well  as 
other  documents.  Yet  so  completely  had  he  de- 
ceived the  world  that,  in  the  funeral  oration 
delivered  over  him  according  to  the  custom  of  the 
academy,  he  is  described  as  a  man,  not  of  deep 
learning,  but  of  spotless  integrity  and  simple 
*  manners. 

In  tlie  light  which  a  century  and  a  quarter  has 
thrown  upon  Greek  antiquities,  it  appears  strange 


that  the  forgeries  of  the  Abb6  FooriBont  eoold 
ever  have  been  accepted  as  genuine  tnuneripli  of 
ancient  inscriptions :  yet  when  thejappema  tiuf 
were  universally  accepted  as  genuine  and  Ml 
most  important  contrioution  to  Grecian  hittoqri 
It  was  not  until  many  years  after  the  abbd's  deatt 
that  suspicions  were  aroused  as  to  anj  of  th«  is- 
scriptions.  Many  learned  writen  accepted  them  d 
as  genuine,  and  thus  diminished  the  valne  of 
otherwise  useful  books.  The  Abb^  BartheleiBJ 
was  completely  the  dupe  of  these  forgeiie^ 
some  of  which  after  Fourmont^  death  he  pub- 
lished, from  the  )atter*s  papers,  in  the  MSmoim  of 
the  Academy  of  Inscriptions,  with  an  elabonll 
commentary ;  and  they  arc  all  incorporated  and 
treated  as  geimine  in  the  Voyage  du  Jemu  ilM- 
charsis,  the  iirst  edition  of  which  appeared  is 
1 788.  I)' IlancarviUe  and  Count  Caylus  also  wen 
deceived. 

*"  The  Abbe  Barthelemy,  M.  d*HAncarville,  Coont  (^ 
laa,  and  otlicni,"  writes  Lord  Abefdeen  in  hit  Bemmh 
hereiifter  referred  to,  **  have  rMeired  these  forgwiei  tf 
^nuine,  and  have  inconsiderately  adopted  notionii  €•■* 
structcd  Mv-stems,  and  published  dissertations  ooDCtfataig 
them." 

One  of  the  principal  discoveries  which  Four- 
mont professed  to  have  nisde  was  of  a  te^li 
near  Amyclic  of  a  goddess  Oga  or  Onga,  to  wkoii^ 
according  to  an  inscription,  it  was  dedicated  hy 
"  Eurotas,  king  of  the  Ikterkeratees,"  aboot  tM 
year  1500  B.C.  In  this  temple  he  professed  ts 
have  ftmnd  two  sculptures,  urom  which  he  took 
drawings,  wliich  have  been  published  by  Cout 
Caylus  in  his  Heeiinl  cTAntiquiUs,  These  xe- 
presented  human  limbs,  knives,  and  othei  tiun^ 
which  evidently  implied  human  sacrifioeSi  and  it 
seems  probable  that  had  the  abbtf  lived  he  iraili 


have  propounded  the  doctrine  that  human 
tices  at  this  time  were  common  in  Greece.  UnM 
sculptures  excited  much  curiosity,  as  we  hat 
every  reason  for  supposing  that  such  rites  wwi 
viewed  with  the  utmost  abhoxrencB  by  the  Gwill 
liord  Aberdeen  has  given  satisfactory  reasons  fa 
thinking  that  no  such  temple  and  no  such  sod^ 
tures  ev(^r  existed,  though  a  worthy  followw  of 
Fourmont,  one  Pr.  Auramiotti,  who  m  1816  pn^ 
lished  (in  Italian)  criticsl  observationa  on  the 
travels  of  M.  De  ('hateaubriand  in  GreecBi  MiBMi 
the  latter  for  omitting  all  notice  of  this  tBiii|li 
which  Auramiotti  professes  to  have  seen. 

Fourmont  seems  to  have  been  well  affgnrilitrf 
with  Pausanias,  and  with  the  edition  of  Hesjdta 
given  by  Mcursius,  and  the  commentary  of  Ihi 
latter  thereon.  The  conjectures  of  FtoMmiM^ViA 
even  of  Meursius,  he  hss  accepted  as  oertulte 
frequently,  however,  n  tietawding  iiw  Mt 

confusing  them,  accordi       mi  Pkyne  Knigikl  (Mh 
say  on  the  Greek  AJptukmnj^  iHth  tha  flOitoM  aiA 
antiquities  of  his  native  kiid,  and  iritK  aol ! 
quent  IlebraiBnis.    Sleadertft' 


■■♦t. 


4^  S.  IX.  May  4,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


369 


^e  was  aware  that  the  name  "  Laconians ''  was 
not  in  use  in  the  time  of  Eurotas,  and  accordinfrly 
he  thought  himself  eafe  in  giving  them  in  his 
inscription  the  name  of  iktepkepatees,  because 
Meursius  (both  misquoting  and  misunderstanding 
a  passage  of  Hesycbius)  states  that  the  Lacedic- 
monians  were  once  called  *lKrtvKpar€7^.  (Payne 
Knight,  and  after  him  Por.^'on,  in  the  Monthly  He- 
view^  xiii.  380,  have  explained  the  true  meaning 
ci  Hesychius.)  lioech  says  that  no  man  in  his 
senses  can  believe  this*  inscription  genuine,  but 
(writing  before  Lord  Aberdeen's  remarks  had  ap- 
peared)  he  treats  it  as  aforgerj',  not  of  Fourmont, 
out  of  an  earlier  date,  by  which  he  assumes  the 
ftbb^  to  have  been  misled. 

At  Amyclce,  Fourmont  professes  to  have  made 
nnmerous  discoveries.  Besides  the  temple  of  Onga, 
he  found  an  inscription  containing  nothing  less  than 
a  list  of  all  the  priestesses,  inscribed  at  different 
times,  from  the  date  of  the  foundation  of  the 
temple  down  to  the  time  of  the  Roman  conquest, 
and  includes  among  them  Laodamia,  who,  if  she 
ever  had  any  existence,  must  have  lived  before  the 
siege  of  Troy.  These  priestesses  are  called  Mar4p€s 
Ka\  Kovpai  Tov  ^  AwoWuvos.,  for  which  neither  Barthe- 
lemy  nor  DTIancarville  were  able  to  produce  any 
anthority  except  a  corresponding  title  in  French 
convents — *'  Les  meres  et  les  fiUes  du  bon  Dieu  *' ; 
whence  Payne  Knight  suspects  that  the  French 
title  gave  birth  to  the  Greek. 

•'The  inscriptions  published,'*  says  Porson  (^Monthly 
JUmeWf  vii.)  **  contain  specimens  of  writing  from  King 
Eurotas,  seven  generations  prior  to  the  Trojan  war,  down 
to  Philip  of  Macedon.  We  might,  therefore,  expect  to 
fiod  great  variety  in  the  form  and  use  of  the  letters,  but 
they  appear  to  be  the  same  pcnson's  writing  and  compo- 
sition.*' 

• 

Conscious  of  his  own  want  of  scholarship,  Four- 
mont almost  entirely  confined  himself  to  publish- 
ing lists  of  proper  names.  Two  of  these  are  lists 
of  the  kings,  senators,  and  magistrates  of  Sparta 
during  the  first  Messenian  war.  Letters  and  in- 
flections are  used  which  were  certainly  not  known 
until  long  after  this  time,  but  the  names  them- 
selves show  the  imposture.  Some  are  Laconian, 
some  Ionian,  some  apparently  a  iumble  of  I^tin 
and  Greek,  and  so  great  was  his  difEculty  in  find- 
ing a  sufiicient  number  of  names  that  many  of 
them  occur  many  times  over,  and  in  particular  the 
name  Demetrius  occurs  no  less  than  forty  times. 
Payne  Knight  remarks  that  the  form  of  these  in- 
scriptions is  no  less  extraordinary  than  the  sub- 
stance; they  being  both  signed  by  the  public 
secretary,  and  authenticated  by  the  public  seal ! 

Although  Fourmont  bad  collected  many  un- 
doubtedly genuine  inscriptions,  which  still  exist 
among  his  papers,  and  have  been  copied  and  pub- 
lished by  subsequent  travellers,  it  is  remarkable 
that  all  that  he  published  were  forgeries.  The 
genuine  were  insignificant  by  the  side  of  the  great 
discoyeries  above  referred  to,  and  he  no  doabt 


required  them  as  materials  from  which  to  fashion 
those  which  he  promised,  and  probably  would 
have  produced  had  he  lived. 

The  narrative  of  his  journey  is  contained  in 
vol.  vii.  of  the  Ilistoire  de  VAcadhnie  des  hiscrip^ 
tions.  He  published  in  the  memoirs  ot  the  same 
academy  several  papers  relating  to  his  discoveries. 
The  principal  are  "  Remarques  sur  trois  inscrip- 
tions trouv^es  dans  la  Grtee**  (vol.  xv.),  and  "  Ana- 
lyse de  Texplication  des  trois  anciennes  inscriptions 
trouv^es  dans  le  temple  d*Apollo  Amycleen  "  (vol. 
xvi.).  In  vol.  xxiii.  are  to  be  found  those  pub- 
lished after  his  death  with  Barthelemy's  com- 
mentary, and  at  the  end  of  the  volume  several 
facsimiles. 

In  1791  Richard  Payne  Knight  published  Ati 
Amdytical  Essay  on  the  Greek  Alphabet^  the  sixth 
and  seventh  sections  of  which  are  devoted  to  an 
examination  and  exposure  of  the  forgeries  of  the 
Abb^  Fourmont  Some  suspicions  of  the  genuine- 
ness of  one  or  two  had  been  previously  expressed, 
but  it  had  been  thought  that  the  abb^  had  been 
the  dupe  of  some  one  else :  a  perusal  of  Payne 
Knight's  work,  however,  must  convince  every  one 
that  Fourmont  was  himself  the  author  of  the 
imposture.  Pi^ne  Knight's  book  was  reviewed  bj 
Porson  in  the  Monthly  JReview  for  1 794  (vol.  vii .)  In 
1817  the  Earl  of  Aberdeen  contributed  "  Remarks 
on  the  Amyclajan  Marbles  "  to  Walpole's  Metnoirs 
relating  to  European  and  Asiatic  Turkey  (p.  446). 
In  these  remarks  he  thoroughly  exposes  one  of 
the  forgeries )  but  he  roused  a  defender  of  the  abb6 
in  the  person  of  M.  Raoul  Rochette,  who  in  1819 
published  Deux  Lettres  d  my  Lord  Comte  dAber^ 
deen  sur  t authenticity  des  inscriptions  de  Fourmont, 
In  this  work  M.  Rochette— a  man  undoubtedly  of 
real  learning,  impelled  apparently  by  that  esprit 
de  pays  which  is  a  characteristic  of  so  many  of 
his  countrymen — attempts  to  maintain,  but  cer- 
tainly does  not  succeed  in  mdntaining,  what  Lord 
Aberdeen  justly  terms  ^'an  untenable  and  exploded 
paradox."  M.  Kochette  was  conclusively  answered 
ml820  by  Lord  Aberdeen  in  Walpole's  Travels  in 
various  Countries  in  the  East,  in  ContifuuitioH  of 
Mefnoirs  relating  to  European  Turkey j  at  p.  48© 
of  which  will  be  found  "  A  Letter  from  the  Earl 
of  Aberdeen  to  the  Editor  relating  to  some  State- 
ments made  by  M.  R.  Rochette  in  his  late  work 
on  the  Authenticity  of  the  Inscriptions  of  Four- 
mont.*' If,  after  a  perusal  of  Payne  Knight's 
work,  any  doubt  whetner  the  inscriptions  are  for- 
geries could  remain  in  the  mind  of  any  reader,  it 
must  be  dissipated  by  Lord  Aberdeen's  ''  Letter,'' 
since  the  publication  of  which  I  am  not  aware 
that  any  one  has  ventured  to  maintain  either  the 
genuineness  of  the  inscriptions  or  the  bona  Jides 
of  the  Abb6  Fourmont.  Yet  I  should  not  be  sur- 
prised  to  be  told  by  some  better  informed  oorre- 
ipondent  of  '<N.  &  Q."  that  the  cause  of  the  Mi6 
is  still  maintained  by  some  of  his  eountrymfln. 


570 


NOTES  AND  QUEJUES. 


[i«h  S.  IX.  ICat  4»  7S. 


Lord  Aberdeen's  remark  in  1817  that  *'  In  France 
A  reluctance  still  exists  to  view  these  forgeries  in 
their  proper  light "  appears  still  to  be  true.  In- 
/*redibie  as  it  may  appear,  it  is  the  fact  that,  in  the 
long  and  elaborate  life  of  the  Abb^  Fourmont  by 
F).  lir^haut  contained  in  the  eighteenth  yolunic  of 
Didot's  Nouvelle  Biographie  ghUrah  (1858),  and 
which  is  just  double  the  length  of  the  life  of  De 
Foe  in  the  same  volume,  there  is  not  a  word  to 
43uggest  that  the  alleged  discoveries  of  the  abb($ 
were  not  genuine,  nor  even  a  hint  that  doubts  had 
been  thrown  on  them  !  lie  is  censured,  indeed, 
for  his  vandalism  in  destroying  so  many  monu- 
•ments  of  antiquity,  but  his  inscriptions  and  dis- 
coveries are  all  treated  as  genuine.  The  Biographie 
universelle  is  more  candid,  though  even  there 
neither  Payne  Knight  nor  Lord  Aberdeen  are 
referred  to,  and  the  matter  is  only  spoken  of  as  one 
•of  suspicion. 

"  Scs  connaissances  r^elles  n*ont  pu  le  nicttre  k  Tabri 
cles  plus  sdrieuses  inculpations :  on  a  suspects  sa  bonne 
foi  dans  ses  recherches  sur  Tautiquite.  On  Ta  hautenii^nt 
qualifie  de  faussaire,  et  du  nioins  il  parait  constant  que 
les  inscriptions  d*un  interet  ninjeur  ne  se  sent  point  trou- 
vdes  dans  ses  porte-fouilles." 

I  ought  to  add  that  my  interest  in  the  forgeries 
of  Fourmont  was  iirst  excited  by  a  lecture  on  the 
subject  which  I  heard  at  Oxford  more  than 
twenty  years  since  by  Dr.  Cardwell,  then  Camden 
Professor  of  History. 

The  Abbd  Fourmont  must  not  be  confounded 

with  his  elder  brother,  £tienne  Fourmont  (Tniu^), 
the  eminent  Oriental  scholar,  nor  with  his  nephew, 
Claude  Fourmont,  known  a-*  *'le  gros  Fourmont  " 
to  distinguish  him  from  his  two  uncles.  Claude 
accompanied  the  abb(?  to  Greece,  and,  I  cannot  but 
think,  assisted  in  the  forgeries. 

K.  C.  CnmsTiE. 

Manchester. 


Leadeuship  of  the  House  of  Lords  (4'**  S. 
ix.  281,  305,  349.) — It  is  true  I  should  have  said 
^'  peerage  of  Engluud,"  not  "  of  the  United  King- 
dom." I  know  more  than  I  did.  But  the  other 
objection  I"  do  not  understand.  Mr.  Senior  was 
not  speaking  of  a  *' parliamentary  peerHge,"  but 
simply  of  "  nobility."  My  authority  was  nothinjr 
more  recondite  than  Lodge  s  Peerage ;  nor  was  I 
Jiware  tfiat  the  old  Irish  baronies  were  not  heredi- 
tary, being  far  from  expert  in  matters  genealogic 
And  heraldic.  But  1  presume  that  the  Irish  titles 
in  question  have  been  in  fact  uninterruptedly  in 
the  Lansdowne  family  since  the  date  given  in 
Lodge,  which  is  enough. 

I  have  now  referred  to  the  original  in  Senior's 
Essay  J  but  the  context  does  not  help  us. 

Lyttelton. 

Arms  op  Pkincb  Rupert  (4**»  S.  ix.  38,  128, 
281.) — Prince  Rupert  was  the  third,  not  second, 
«on  of  Frederick^  nfth  Count  Palatine.    His  eldest 


son  Frederick  Henry,  bom  in  1G14,  waB  drowned 
in  the  Lake  of  Haerlem  when  fifteen  yeais^  of 
ago.  This  may  account  for  Prince  Rupert  haTing 
been  thought  to  be  the  second  son. 

RaLFH  N.  JAMXk 

Ashford,  Kent. 

*»GuTTA  CAVAT  lapidem"  (4»^  S.  ix.  82,  ie7| 
2G0.)— I  think  that  there  is  little  doubt  that  the 
Gradus  ad  Pamassum  was  published  before  17^ 
A  query  as  to  the  date  of  the  Jirst  edition,  in 
"  N.  &  Q."  2»'>  S.  ii.  230,  elicited  an  editorial  note 
to  the  effect  that  the  author,  correctly  stated  to 
be  Paul  Aler,  a  French  Jesuit,  bom  in  1666,  pub- 
lished his  work  at  Cologne  about  1680.  This 
edition  I  have  not  seen,  and  suppose  to  be  reiy 
rare ;  the  book,  however,  would  appear  to  have  ' 
been  speedily  reprinted  at  London,  for  there  exists 
an  edition — 

"  Xovissimam  hanc  editionem  recensait  et  aexoentit 
testimoniia  dcsideratis  auxit  S.  M.  Londini,  Woodfall, 
1773,"  8vo; 

on' the  reverse  of  the  title  of  which  are  the  words: 
"Imprimatur,  Septemb.  30,  1680.  Rob.  Midg- 
ley."  The  earliest  impression  in  my  own  oolleo- 
tion,  "  Editio  novissima,  prcecedentibua  largft  ano- 
tior  et  emendatior,''  a  thick  8vo  volume  oi  more 
than  a  thousand  pages,  bears  the  imprint  '*  ParisiiSt 
1732.*'  In  this,  sttb  voce  *<  Gutta,"  is  found  the 
line  '^  Gutta  cavat  lapidem,"  &c. 

I  have  said  above  that  the  author  of  the  GraAu 
was  I'aul  Aler,  a  Jesuit  of  Luxembourg.  Ifa- 
hony,  in  his  paper  on  ''  Modem  Latin  Poets"  in 
The  Peliques  of  Father  Prout,  is  in  error  in  at- 
tributing the  authorship  to  another  Jesuit,  Jaoqnes 
Vaniuro,  the  elegant  author  of  the  Pradmm  Aif- 
ticujn, 

<'  Schoolboys,^'  s.iys  he,  ^  aro  not  aware  that  thqr  om 
him  a  debt  of  gratitude ;  he  beinp;  the  compiler  of  that 
wondrous  ladder  of  Jacob  yclept  Gradus  ad  PamoMMM." 
— Bohn'd  ed.  p.  555. 

Father  Vani5re,  it  is  true,  was  very  oompeteat 
for  such  a  task ;  but  he  was  assuredly  ntti  the 
author  of  the  Gradus,  What  he  did  com^e  was 
another  book,  of  similar  purpose — a  Dictumnarium 
Poeticximy  of  which  there  are  editions,  LyoDyl710, 
1722,  and  1740,  in  4to;  and  an  abridgmenti  ex- 
tensively used  in  Continental  schools.  As  to  the 
<*  debt "  of  which  Father  Mahony  speaks,  what- 
ever schoolboys  themselves  may  say,  some  othsis 
would  certainly  deny  its  existence— dubbinff  the 
book,  as  they  have  done,  the  Gradui  ad  Am- 
Ass-tim — the  step  to  make  a  boy  an  ass.. 

WlLUAK  BlBMi 

-    Birmingham. 

Rev.  John  Moultrie  (4««  S.  ix.  118, 184,807.) 
Unless  I  am  greatly  nustaken  the  ''Forget  thea" 
verse  quoted  by  J.  H.  of  Stirling  was  an  ee^j 
production  of  John  Moultrie,  rector  of  Buglji 
writer  in  the  Etonian^  and  altogether  fliffirf^ftT 
from    Uaynes  Bayly,  who,  howaTeTf    waaipt 


4*  a  IX.  Mat  4, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


371 


^entirely  a  fool.     Moultrie's   Godivay  though   a 
boyish  production,  is  a  specimen  of  octave  rhyme 
^qual  at  least  to  Frere's  TVhistlecraft,    "When  it  '■ 
was  read  to  Gifford,  the  QuarteHi/  editor  said —  ; 
**  If  that  young  Moultrie  writes  prose  as  well  as  I 
he  writes  poetry,  I  should  be  glad  to  hear  from  j 
him."    Hawtrey  said  Moultrie's  poetry  possessed 
**  the  pathos  of  Wordsworth  without  his  pue- 
rility.'*^  This  of  course  was  mistaken  criticism. 
Moultrie  had  much  humour.     I  quote  from  Eto- 
niana  a  stanza  of  his  in  a  magazine  which  he 
edited  at  Eton : — 

•**  I  own  to  me  it  seems  extremely  funny 

How  clever  people  who  delight  in  learr.infr. 
Can  waste  their  time,  their  patience,  and  their  money, 
The  leaves  of  those  dull  commentators  turning. 

0  when  I  read  the  pages  bright  and  sunny 

Of  the  old  Greeks,  it  sets  my  heart  a  burning. 

1  much  prefer  Euripides  to  Monk, 
Homer  to  Bentley,  Sophocles  to  Brunck." 

Makrocheib. 

[Some  account  of  the  Rev.  John  Moultrie  is  given  in 
Men  of  the  Time,  edit.  18C8.  His  assumed  name  was 
<Jerard  Montgomery.     »  N.  &  Q."  !»*  S.  ix.  334.— Ed.] 

The  author  of  False  and  True ;  or,  the  Irishman 
in  Italy y  performed  in  1798,  was  the  Rev.  Mr. 
Mmdiru  (as  given  in  Biog.  Dram,  i.  531 ;  ii.  218), 
or  MimUriey  as  he  is  called  in  the  Daily  Telegraph 
of  May  18,  1804,  for  there  seems  some  diliiculty 
ahout  his  real  name. 

He  may  have  been  the  vicar  of  Cleohury-Mor- 
timer,  as  your  correspondent  R.  Inolis  suggests, 
but  he  certainly  was  not  the  well-known  Rev. 
John  Moultrie,  the  **  Gerard  Montgomery  "  of  the 
Etonian,  whose  lines  are  given — and  not  quite  cor- 
rectly— from  memorv  by  another  correspondent, 
J.  H.  of  Stirling,  l^he  talented  author  of  "  Go- 
diva,"  "  Forget  Thee  ! "  and  many  other  standard 
pieces,  whose  Christian  name  was  not  Thomas 
according  to  J.  II.  but  as  1  have  given  it,  is,  or 
was  till  lately,  vicar  of  Rugby. 

The  writer  of  the  comedy  False  or  True  seems 
to  have  been  little  known ;  indeed  his  Christian 
name  and  information  about  him  have  been  already 
asked  for  in  your  columns  (see  3"*  S.  vi.  89)  by  a 
correspondent  whose  initials  I  regret  to  have 
missea  from  the  pages  of  "  N.  &  Q."  for  the  last 
half  dozen  years.  AV.  T.  M. 

Shinfield  Grove. 

The  Ball  of  Cotton  in  the  Sheerness 
Bbeach  of  Promise  Case  (4»'*  S.  ix.  SCO.)— Re- 
ferring to  the  full  report  of  the  trial  referred  to  by 
R.  &  M.,  I  find  that  in  reply  to  the  judge  (Lord 
Chief  Justice  Bovill)  the  plaintiff  said :  ''  I  had 
been  using  the  ball  of  cotton  on  the  previous  day 
at  the  defendant's  mother's  house ;  we  were  gooa 
friends  then."  Perhaps  this  will  explain  the  allu- 
Bioii.  I  am  carious  to  know  if  there  is  any  super- 
tflition  connected  with  it.  E.  S.  C. 


BuRNs's  Books  (4"»  S.  ix.  236.) — I  happen  to 
possess  one  of  Robert  Bums*s  books  with  "his 
manly  signature,"  a  designation  with  which  I 
should  not  find  fault.  It  is  a  book  that  one 
would  have  scarcely  expected  to  have  belonged 
to  him — viz.  Ileures  Nouvelles,  gravies  par  L# 
Senault  It  was  bought  of  the  late  Mr.  Picker- 
ing. J.  C.  J. 

Robert  Forbes  (4**»  S.  ix.  234.) — Under  this 
heading  your  correspondent  hns  certainly  lumped 
three  of  the  clan  iorbes.  With  respect  to  the 
imitator  of  Boileau,  I  have  to  say^that  the  Satyre 
was  followed,  in  1752,  by  his  Eloye  de  la  Viile 
d  jSdimbouryf  divisi  en  quatre  Chants  par  le  Sieur  de 
Forbes — a  poem  of  more  pretension,  extending  to 

Sp.  82,  with  a  highly  loyal  and  Protestant  ad- 
ress  to  the  Prince  of  Wales  subscribed  **  rran9oi8 
Forbes,"  desi^ating  himself  in  a  subsequent  pub- 
lication "  Maitre  de  Langue."  I  lay  some  stress 
upon  the  loyalty  of  Mr.  Forbes  that  he  may  not 
be  confounded^  with  the  traitor  who  wrote  Le 
ConqtieratU  cTEcossef  a  poem  of  a  diametrically 
opposite  tendency,  printed  at  Edinburgh  in  1745 
during  the  temporary  possession  of  the  city  by 
the  Pretender — a  small  tract  of  eighteen  pages  of 
panegyrics  upon  the  Stuarts  and  denunciation 
against  the  tyrant  George  II.,  preserved  among 
the  Ung*s  pamphlets. 

As  to  Robert  Forbes,  the  next  of  our  trio,  I 
have  not  had  the  advantage  of  seeing  what  is  said 
of  him  in  the  Scottish  Ballads  of  1868.  Elsewhere 
we  only  hear  of  him  as  *•*  R.  F.,  gent.,"  extended  to 
"  Robert  Forbes  "  in  the  "  shop  bill "  appended  to 
Ajax  his  Speech  to  the  Grecian  Knabhs,  where,  in 
broad BuchanSf  he  invites  his  countrymen  to  repair 
for  shanks  fittings  or  defittings  to  the  sign  of  the 
Brick  on  7W«r-Ht7/,  where  he  seems  to  have  carried 
on  the  trade  of  a  hosier.  The  last  editor  of  the 
Speech  (Aberdeen,  1865)  says  his  inquiries  for  the 
author  have  resulted  in  no  further  information 
being  procurable.  Forbes  seems  perfectly  at  home 
in  detailing  in  the  aforesaid  racy  Doric  the  plenish- 
ing of  the  shop,  and  it  may  probably  be  inferred  that 
he  was  one  of  those  educated  persons  who,  designed 
for  trade,  did  not  disdain  the  initiatory  canying  of 
the  pack  before  settling  down,  and  bemg  of  rather 
a  freer  disposition  than  comported  with  the  usual 
burghal  character,  elected  the  South  as  the  safer 
field  for  both  his  business  operations  and  the  play 
of  his  wit.  His  burlesque  is  said  to  have  been 
first  printed  at  Aberdeen  in  1742,  and  very  fre- 
quenUy  thereafter;  but  it  was  not  until  forty- 
three  years  later  that  we  hear  of  its  continuance 
in  Ulysses^  Answer y  professing  to  be  published  for 
the  first  time  in  A  Select  Collection  of  Scots  Poems 
(Edin.  1786),  reprinted  at  Aberdeen  1787.  How 
is  this  P  It  fits  in  admirably,  and  precludes  the 
suspicion  that  another  hand  had  taken  up  hia 
text 
This  brings  me  to  No.  3,  about  whom  there 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  8L  n.  Mat  ^  *7t. 


can  be  no  mistake— the  Dominie  Deposed  being 
uniformly  ascribed  on  its  title  to  William  Forbes, 
A.M.,  sclboolmaster  of  I'ete^ulter,  the  veritable 
dominie  of  Deeside,  whose  Scottish  Merriment 
must  have  made  its  appearance  at  nn  curly  date, 
for  we  are  told  that  '*he  enlisted,  and  left  his 
country  for  Ireland  about  1732."  Indeed  he  re- 
cords the  enlistment  himself,  and  however  hard 
he  may  have  been  dealt  with  by  the  Kirk  Session, 
his  loose  rtf/lections  upon  his  fall  show  him  in 
any  light  but  that  of  a  repentant  sinner. 

Belfeiks  Blackiwed  r4»^  S.  ix.  200.)-- The 
City  churches  that  have  olackened  belfries  cer- 
tainly do  not  in  any  case  date  from  a  period  pre- 
vious to  the  Great  Fire ;  but  are  all  of  them  of 
Wren's  building.  The  following  are  the  only 
churches  within  the  walls  that  date  from  periods 
antecedent  to  I6GG : — Allhallows  Barking ;  All- 
hallows  the  Great ;  St.  Andrew  Undershaft ;  St. 
Ethelburga;  St  Helen,  BishopHgate ;  St.  Katha- 
rine Cree;  St.  Olave,  1 1  art  Street;  and  without 
the  walls,  but  within  the  liberties :  —  St  Bar- 
tholomew the  Great ;  St  Giles,  Cripplegate ;  St. 
James,  Duke's  Place,  Aldgate  (which  is  still 
standing,  but  has  been  closed  for  more  than  two 
years) ;  and  St  Sepulchre  Without,  Newgate. 

W.  It.  Tate. 

5,  Denmark  Row,  Camborwoll. 

Parliamentary  Companions  (4'*»  S.  ix.  230.) 
I  have  two  12mo  volumes  of  the  dates  1758  and 
1771  of  Kider*s  Britinh  Mfriin,  They  contain 
lists  of  the  House  of  Commons,  and  give  the  pro- 
fession and  address  of  each  member.       F.  D.  H. 

Curious  Baptismal  Namm  (4***  S.  viii.  passim  ; 
ix.  21.)— 7%6'  Times  of  April  18,  1872,  gives  us 
Marie  Joseph  Louis  Adolpne  Thiers,  son  of  Pierre 
Louis  marie  Thiers.  JouN  Pike. 

Maj.-Gen.  Edward  Whitmore  (2"«*  S.  xii.  88 ; 
8^  S.  vli.  400.) — I  am  able  to  answer  in  part  my 

?ueries  about  this  military  gov(?mor  of  I/ouisburg. 
n  1703  bis  oldest  son  and  executor  was  Capt. 
Edward  Whitmore  of  Bury  St.  Edmund's.  I 
should  be  glad  to  learn  if  any  descendants  remain 
there.  'W.  II.  Whitmore. 

Charles  E.  Walker  (4«»»  S.  ix.  302.)— When 

a  boy,  I  knew  the  Jiov.  Charles  Walker  well. 

He  was  not  unfrequently  a  guest  at  my  father*s 

table,  and  I  had  a  copy  of  CmncnlUm.    The  last 

time  I  saw  him  was  circa  183o-0,  not  later. 

W.  J.  Br.KNiiAKD  Smith. 
Temple 

Red  Cross,  IlrREKoRD  (4»»'  S.  ix.  301.)— The 
print  of  this  by  Longman?,  1815,  does  not  ccntsin 
the  well-known  prenohing  cross  of  the  Black 
Friars'  monastery,  which  is  no  longer  in  a  muti- 
lated state.    None  of  the  authors  you  allude  to 


call  it ''  Red  CrosB."  May  it  have  been  k>  edM 
from  its  structure,  red  sandstonei  in  oontiadi^ 
tinction  to  the  "  White  Croas "  on  the  BraooD 
Road,  recently  restored  by  G.  G.  Scotti  R.A«,  M 
the  cost  of  the  Venerable  Aichdeaoon  of  Herefeldy 
the  Lord  Save  and  Sele  P  A.  O.  K. 

J.  A.  Atkinson  (4^  S.  ix.  200.) — On  reiezrav 
to  my  MS.  notes  of  the  Handhoek  of  JFieiiiiam 
NameSy  I  find  I  have  a  reference  to  Uie  MmUXiff 
Ma(j.  for  1816  (iv.  405) ;  but  I  have  not  time  to 
see  if  this  reference  is  of  any  use. 

OlPHAB  ELkMR. 

New  Barnct. 

There  were  certainly  two  or  more  books  pnb- 
lished  in  1807  under  the  title  of  The  Mimuff 
Iluman  Life,  The  provocative  one  waa^  I  tinUy 
entitled  the  Miseries  ef  Hwnm  Life;  er,  tk 
Groans  of  Samuel  SensUice  and  TVvioiily  Teifh 
with  a  few  Siipplementary  Sighs  from  Mrs,  Tedf: 
with  coloured  folding  plates  and  in  two  volamM^ 
republished  in  1826  with  woodcuts  only.  Ikk 
was,  I  think,  illustrated  by  Atkinson.  But  Bmr- 
landson  also  treated  a  cognate  subject  inavoIsM 
closelv  following,  called  Fteasures  of  Ikuman  L^; 
or^  the  Miseries  twmed  Topsy-turvy  by  Himnii 
BenevolHSy  «$■  Co,  In  the  same  year  eftu  fft 
More  Miseries,  by  Sir  Frdfvd  Mwrrmtr^  and  Ctai* 
forts  of  Human  Life ;  or,  StniUt  and  LmigMtr  tf 
Charles  Cheerful  mid  Matier  MerryfeUow:  and  a 
1814  the  suijject  was  revived  by  An  AMkittt 
the  Miseries  of  Hitman  Life  by  Hatriet  GoipM^ 
apd  a  Sequel  to  the  Antidote,  1  think  then  mi 
also  a  book  on  the  ''Miseries  of  Female LUi^« 
trading  on  the  then  papular  title.  This  is  scsiHSf 
a  reply  to  P.  P.*s  query,  but  it  may  giTe  Ua  i 
clue  to  the  information  he  seeks. 

Alexavdeb  AiniisiA 

Stoke  Newington. 

Lady  Kitty  Hyde  (4«*  S.  ix.  219.)-^GflaV 
Granville,  Lord  Lansdowne,  wrote  three  PM" 
on  the  above-named  lady,  entitled  as  Ibuswi: 
**  Lady  Hyde  having  the  Smallpoz  soon  sfttf  tki 
Itocovcry  of  Mrs.  Mohun";  "  Lady  Hyde  atlill 
at  Sir  Godirey  Kne11er*s  for  her  rictuie";  ^Ijdl 
Hyde."  *   From  the  description  given  by  £.  A-d 
of  the  copy  of  verses  found  amonff  his  aaeeltdl 
papers,  there  appears  to  be  nojK>ssibIe  doabtM 
the  third  poem,  viz.  "  Lady  Hyde."  is  idsBfkd 
with  his  copy.    However,  to  settle  the  mitttf 
beyond  dispute,  I  quote  the  first  four  lines  fiv 
comparison :  — 

**  When  fAm*d  Apdles  Mnigfat  to  ftame 
Somo  image  of  th'  Iduian  dame^ 
To  furnish  graces  fbr  the  pleoo. 

He  8amnioa*d  all  the.ByDphs  of  GfSMS.* 
Lord  Lansdowne^k  iVcat,  Ooohisrs  «dit«  ^  M. 

Waltham  Abbey. 

*  Afterwards  GonntMi  of  ClanndsB  sad 


X  Mat  4, '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


373 


RCE  (4*  S.  ix,  200,  251,  306.)— Your  last 
mdcnt,  who  complains  of  irrelevant  infor- 
himself  introduces  "  null  and  void  mar- 
to  which  I  did  not  allude.  A  divorce 
t  atfect  the  name  which  a  woman  acquires 
riage/ which  name  she  still  retains,  and 
ght  to  retain,  until  she  takes  another  by 
Lage  or  by  other  means. 

R.  S.  CnARNOCK. 

)BN  Joke  (4»'»  S.  ix.  298.)— The  Abbd 
aines'  excuse  to  the  Duke  of  Choiseul  for 
written  a  scurrilous  pamplilet  was :  *'  Mon- 
.',  il  faut  bien  que  je  vive."  *'  Je  u'en  vois 
ficessitd,"  was  the  duke's  reply.  (Journal 
Its,  Dec.  12,  18G3.)  H.  D.  C. 

irst  person  to  whom  I  have  seen  the  saying 
is  Cardinal  de  Richelieu,  a.d.  1585-1642. 

J.  N.  PoCKLIiJGTON. 

B  Leaves  eaten  for  the  Holy  Sacra- 
:"»  S.  ix.  39,  224,  327.)— This  query  seems 
deniug  a  little  from  its  first  limits;  so  I 
10  following  quotation  from  Browning's 
f  of  the  Spanish  Cloister  may  be  not 
te:— 

"  When  he  finishes  refection. 

Knife  and  fork  he  never  lays 
Cross-wise,  to  my  recollection, 

As  do  I,  in  Jesu's  praise. 
I,  the  Trinity  illustrate, 

Drinking  watered  orange-pulp^ 
In  three  sips  the  Arian  frustrate  ; 

While  he  drains  his  at  one  gulp  I  '* 

uotation  from  Mr.  Cox,  in  the  last  page 
to,  reminds  me  of  the  so-called  Chancers 

John  Addis,  M.A. 

[PTioxs  ON  Bells  (4*^  S.  ix.  316.)— In 
a's  church  at  Worcester  th^^re  is  a  set  of 
I  in  the  time  of  Queen  Anne,  which  bear 
ad  inscriptions  that  record  the  victories 
uring  that  reign  as  follows : — 

1.  Blenheim, 

is  my  note,  and  Blenheim  is  ray  name  ; 
llcnUfcim's  story  will  be  first  in' fame." 

2.  JBarcehna. 
le  relate  how  Louis  did  mcmoan 
randaon  Pliilip's  flight  from  Uarcelon." 

3.  Ramilies. 
:cd  in  blood,  I,  Uamilie.s  ailvanco 
inia's  glor}'  on  the  fall  of  France." 

4.  Meniru 
onin  on  my  sides  enpjraven  be; 
•'landers  freed  from  Gallic  slavery."     " 

5.  Turin, 
in  harmonious  peal  I  roundly  go, 
oo  Turin,  and  triumphs  on  the  Po." 

6.  Eugtne. 
joy  I  bear  illustrious  EugcDe*s  name ; 
te  of  fortune  and  the  boast  of  fame." 

7.  Marlfjorotigh. 
for  pride  the  greater  Marlborongh  bear; 
:  of  tyraati,  aud  the  soul  of  war.^ 


8.  Queen  Anne. 

"  Th'  immortal  praises  of  Queen  Anne  I  sound. 
With  union  blest,  And  all  these  glories  crowned." 

The  inscriptions  on  these  bells  are  all  dated 
ITCH),  except  the  inscription  on  the  seventh,  which 
is  dated  1712.  Frederick  Rule. 

Ashford. 

Sir  Thomas  Stanley  op  Grange  Gobmak 
(4***  S.  ix.  281.) — There  was  no  such  person. 
Burke,  in  his  Donnant  and  Extinct  Baron^ageg 
1838,  gives,  Stanley  of  Grange  Gorman,  created 
16^)9,  extinct  1744.  Stephen  Stanley  of  Grange 
Gorman,  married  Margaret,  only  daughter  of  J. 
Bliss,  and  was  father  of  John  Stanley,  who  was 
made  a  baronet.  He  married  Anne,  daughter  of 
Bernard  Granville,  and  niece  oPJohn,  Earl  of  Bath ; 
she  died  1729 :  he  died  1744  without  issue. 

E.R. 

PuRGT  (4^  S.  ix.  263, 810.)— I  thank  your  cor- 
respondent for  his  suggestion.  Perky  was  un- 
doubtedly the  word  1  mistook  for  purgy^  the 
Acceptation  of  whicb  quite  coincides  with  its  use 
on  the  occasion  1  mentioned. 

Thos.  R  Winnino2X)N. 

Archert  vr8U9  Musketry  (4^  S.  viii.  pasntn ; 
ix.  44.) — In  the  year  1861 1  attended  the  autumn 
manoeuvres  of  the  Russian  army  at  Tzarskoe  Seloe. 
At  that  time  (as  I  believe  they  do  at  present) 
the  Circassian  squadron  of  the  emperor  a  guard 
(both  officers  and  men)  carried  bows  and  quivers 
of  arrows  as  part  of  their  regulation  equipment. 

F.  D.H. 

"  Not  lost,  but  gone  before  "  (4*  S.  v.  viii. 
passim ;  ix.  103.) — I  can  give  an  earlier  instance 
of  the  use  of  the  above  passage  than  that  quoted 
b^  ii.  H.  A.  B.,  having  m  my  possession  a  familr 
miniature,  on  the  gold  rim  of  which  is  engraved 
"Bom  7  Nov.  1780,  died  23  May,  178»— Not 
lost,  but  gone  before.''  F.  D.  H. 

Lord  Lieutenant  (4^  S.  ix.  220,  249,  283, 
326.) — We  ought  by  this  time  to  have  had  enough 
on  such  a  trivial  suDJect,  but  I  may  be  allowed  a 
word  in  reply  to  Mr.  Skbat.  He  says  that  I  state, 
"  in  direct  opposition  to  the  fact,  that  such  a  fom 
as  lords  lieutenants  would  b6  foreign  to  English 
grammar."  I  repeat  my  statement,  and  am  quite 
willing  to  refer  the  point  to  any  acknowleoged 
grammarian ;  premising  that  b^  English  grammtr 
I  meant — and  the  context  plaulv  showed  that  I 
mean — the  form  of  the  speech  which  Englishmen 
now  employ.  Again,  Mb.  Skxat  says,  I  **  cap  " 
the  above  false  assertion  by  saying  that  I  '^  cannot 
see  what  the  French  form  let  homme$  marckands 
has  to  do  with  the  question."  I  again  repeat  mj 
statement ;  I  cannot  see  it  Mr.  Skeaj  lias  said 
nothing  to  xefnte  me ;  beeause,  in  order  to  prove 
what  is  HOW  correct,  he  has  adduced  three  argor 
ments:  (L>^Ohl  authozt"  copied  the  Fnmck; 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«k  8.  IX.  Mat  4k  "Tf. 


(2.)  "  Chaucer  "  writes  so-and-so ;  (3.)  "  Adjec- 
tives are  sometimes  used  as  substantives'* — which 
I  knew  at  my  dame*s-school.  The  fact  is,  many 
etymologists  so  penetrate  themselves  with  the  old 
leaven  that  (like  Aristotle's  disciples)  they  think 
*'  all  grammar  is  in  Chaucer  *' ;  and  that  it  is  **  in 
direct  opposition  to  the  fact "  to  eschew  in  the 
nineteenth  century  a  form  which  Chaucer  used  in 
the  fourteenth. 

It  will  not  interest  Mr.  S.  to  hear  that  I  have 
already  read  Dr.  Morris's  Outlines,  as  well  as  every 
work  on  English  etymology  and  grammar  whose 
name  I  can  recall ;  or  that  I  claim  to  have  done 
very  little  hard  work  in  my  life  except  that  "  of 
examining  the  phraseology  which  our  authors  have 
actually  at  various  times  employed."  When  he 
said  that  I  had  evolved  out  of  my  internal  con- 
sciousness the  fact  that  lord  lieutenants  was  cor- 
rect, he  evidently  knew  all  about  me ;  and  it  is 
in  vain  for  me  to  protest.  Lewis  Sergeant. 

13,  St.  Mary '3  Road,  W. 

"Aired''  (4'»»  S.  ix.  172,  228,  288,  328.)— 
There  is  the  verb  "  to  air "  by  exposure  to  the 
atmosphere,  and  the  adverb  aered  of  the  Scottish 
dialect,  denoting  the  state  of  any  substance  from 
which  the  damp  has  been  exhaled.  The  latter 
term  applies  to  the  practice  of  placing  clothes 
which  nave  been  dried  in  the  open  air  to  a  brisk 
fire  in  order  to  exhaust  the  latent  moisture.  What 
connection  is  there  between  aerating  **  water  and 
other  liquids  "  and  rendering  garments  aered^  i.  e. 
arid?  Surely  F.  C.  can  distinguish  between  air 
forced  into  liquids  and  moisture  exhaled  from 
household  linen.  In  regard  to  ''damp  sheets,  or 
clothes  put  before  the  fire,"  F.  C.  informs  us  it  is 
still  the  air  in  the  vicinity  of  the  tire  which  takes 
up  the  moisture.  No  one  doubts  this,  but  is  the 
atr  or  Oie  Jire  the  more  active  agent  in  the  pro- 
cess of  evaporation  ?  Is  the  air  anything  other 
than  the  medium?  The  fire  certainly  is  the 
occasion,  though  what  causes  the  fire  to  produce 
exhalation  we  do  not  know.  Every  natural  phe- 
nomenon, we  all  know,  takes  place  in  the  air;  nor 
can  we  "go  out  of  the  air"  unless,  as  Ilamlet  is 
made  to  saj-,  wo  get  into  our  graves.  W'hen 
bread  is  put  into  an  oven  to  bo  baked,  is  it  the 
air  or  the  fire  which  bakes  the  bread?  and  is 
"airing"  (?  aerating)  the  same  with  baking,  Scot- 
tic6  firing?  What  is  the  connection  between 
German  lilften  and  Norsk  oreydd-r,  empty,  ex- 
hausted, given  by  J.  Ck.  R.  as  the  derivation  of 
Scotch  aered  J  English  arid?  iJ.  (w.) 

HoTCir  Pot  (4'»»  S.  ix.  180,  248,  306.  )—I  am 
very  much  obliged  to  Mr.  Tew,  but  I  fear  that 
this  query  cannot  be  satisfactorily  answered  ex- 
cept by  reference  to  the  works  of  such  old  authors 
as  Bracton,  Bpelman,  or  Littleton's  Tenures^  to 
which  I  have  not  access.    I  now  think  that  it  is 


only  a  legal  phrase  descriptive  of  a  coBtom,  hA  • 
general  custom,    Blackstone,  voL  iL  p.  101,  says  :— 

"  Hotch  pot  is  where  one  coparcener  has  an  eiftiti 
given  her  in  frank  marriage,  and  lands  descend  to  hv 
and  her  sisters  in  fee  simple ;  she  or  her  heirs  sfaall  havt 
no  share  of  them  (the  lands  in  fee  simple)  nnless  ahs  or 
they  will  agree  to  divide  the  land  so  given  in  frank  nur* 
riage  in  equal  proportion  with  the  rest  of  tbe  Indi 
descending,  and  if  she  did  not  choose  to  pnt  her  lands  h 
hotch  pot  (that  is  to  be  shook  up  together  as  it  wm^ 
she  was  presumed  to  be  sufficiently  provided  for,  and  thi 
r&st  of  the  inheritance  was  divided  amongit  tha  otiNr 
sisters." 

Since  writing  my  query  I  have  seen  the  tem 
used  in  a  Warwickshire  will  dated  so  lata  M 
1855,  and  I  now  only  require  to  know  th€ag§(i 
the  phrase  or  custom.  I  do  not  believe  that  then 
is  one  lawyer  in  a  hundred  who  can  tell  and  poiai  ' 
out  by  "  precedent"  when  the  term  "  hotch  pot" 
first  appeared  in  our  language.  To  asidst  them  I 
will,  as  a  novice,  say  that  it  must  date  from  doN 
after  the  Conquest,  when  the  attempt  was  being 
made  to  perpetuate  the  language  of  the  conr 
querors.  I  know  personally  that  you  have  mnj 
readers  of  the  highest  calibre  in  the  legal  profb^ 
sion,  and  I  put  them  upon  their  mettle.  MkXlv  • 
is  quite  right  as  to  its  being  the  origin  cit  on 
delectable  '^hodge  podge/'  and '^Iridi stew "slio^ 
I  should  think.  C.  Chatioge* 

Castle  Bromwich. 

Genius  "a  Capacity  por  takhto  Tboitbu" 
(4^'»  S.  ix.  280.)  —  I  believe  it  was  Mr.  T.  Carijto 
who  wrote  that  genius  is  only  an  immense  oifa* 
city. for  taking  trouble.  JoHir  PiggoT|  Jvi* 

Lee  Gibbons  (4«»»  S.  ix.  232.)  —  In  " Noticai  1»  . 
Correspondents  '*  it  is  doubted  whether  this  mat 
is  a  pseudonym.  Allow  me  to  observe  that  fir 
once. the  Editor  is  slightly  in  error.  Lee  GiUioV 
was  the  nnm  deplume  assumed  by  an  old  friend rf 
mine,  William  Bennett,  Esq.,  who  has  been  iv 
many  years,  and  is  still,  in  extensive  praotios  Ut 
solicitor  at  Chapel-en-le-Frith,  in  DerDvriiire.  Bl 
was  the  author,  under  this  assumed  name,  of  A* 
following  novels,  one  or  two  of  them  publiriMl 
nearly  iifty  years  ago :  —  The  Cavalier^  The  Kti§  ■ 
of  the  Peak,  Malpas,  and  Owen  Gock.  Mr.  BenB0(t 
is  still  an  occasional  contributor  to  TheBtUfUfff* 

John  I^ckfobd,  H.A* 

Huiigate  Street,  Pickering.  « 

"  Mart  Ann  "  (4»»'  S.  ix.  38.)  —The  leaden  of  • 
trades  unions  frequently  find  it  necessary  to  llbf 
rt'cusant  members  of  such  unions  to  book  for  9' 
fringement  of  the  rules  of  the  unions.  TUi  ii 
done  in  a  variety  of  ways,  from  the  brealdiig  or 
stealing  of  the  member's  working  tools  sod  iMB' 
in-trade^  to  the  putting  of  a  canister  of  gnnpowiv 
down  his  chimney,  or  throwin|p  the  81^0,  wilkft 
lighted  fusee  attached|jnto  his  bedroom  thnm^ 
the  window  at  night  This  lattar  pradnoaaa 
extraordinary  effect  when  iiuquiimM.    Tkm-pt^\: 


^jfc-. 


*  ■•! 


#»  8.  IX.  Mat  4. 72.]      - 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


375 


sons  employed  to  do  tbese  pleuaot  tasks  go  by  the 
gSDeral  name  of  "  Mary  Ann."  "  Mary  Ann  "  is 
S  sort  of  Muinbo  Jumbo,  whom  do  one  is  supposed 
to  know,  who  works  in  the  dark  and  at  night  for 
the  moat  part.  The  doines  of  "  Mary  Ann  "  are 
well  known  io  the  Sheffield  district,  where,  when 
ft  workman  or  master  has  bad  hia  "  bands  "  cut  or 
■tolen,  it  is  iaid  that  "  Mary  Ann "  has  been 
**  a-visilinff."  It  is  probable  that  "  Marr  Ann  " 
of  the  trades  unions  and  "  Mary  Ann  "  oc  the  re- 
publicans ere  very  closely  related;  and  one  ma^ 
readily  conceive  that  each  party  would,  at  their 
meetings,  drink  to  the  health  and  success  of  "Mary 
Ann."  Thos.  Ratcupfe. 

Sir  Topas  ("4"  S,  i*.  .39.)— Is  not  the  name  "  Sir 
Topas,"  in  this  instancp,  taken  from  Dr.  Thomas 
PameH's  Fairy  Tale,  "  Edwin  of  the  Green"? 
Thob.  Ratcliffb. 

" To  Tinker  '■  {4">  S.  ii.  320.)  —  When  I  was 
jtoung  it  was  a  proverb  in  East  Cornwall  that  the 
tinkers  "repaired  one  hole  and  made  two,"  Hence, 
any  unsatisfactory  or  incomplete  repair  was  termed 
tinkering,  and  he  who  performed  it  a  tinker. 

Vfu.  PfiSaELLT. 

Torqany. 

I  have  repeatedly  heard  this  phrase,  used  in  a 
depreciatory  way  of  one  who  only  half  did  his 
work.  I  have  been  led  to  imagine  that  it 
originated  with  the  iHpMy  tinkers — men  like 
Lavengro's  "  Flaming  Tinman" — whose  mending 
of  kettles,  &e.,  was  only  intended  to  serve  a  tem- 
porary purpose.  Thus:  "He's  been  tinkering  at 
It  for  a  long  time,  but.  he'll  never  make  a  good 
job  of  it."  "  lie  promised  to  mend  it  as  rood  as  | 
new,  but  he  is  but  a  poor  tinker  after  all,'°  "  It's  , 
tinkering  work,  and  will  never  hold  together." 

ClTTHBBBT  BeDB. 

1  know  the  expres.'iian  "to  tinker  up  a  thing" 
with  the  meaning  of  making  a  thing  last  for  pre- 
sent exigencies  only.  Tinker  b,  I  suppose,  un- 
doubtedly connected  with  such  words  as  tinkle, 
&C.,  and  originally  derived  &om  the  sound  of 
clinking  metals,  but  in  these  phrases  the  notion 
seems  to  come  &am  the  tinker's  trade. 

JoBH  Addis,  H.A. 
Chebbies  iHD  TUB  Holt  Fakily  (4'"  S.  ii. 
117,  210.) — Since  I  penned  a  note  with  the  above 
heading,  in  which  I  spoke  of  a  picture  by  Adrian 
Vander  Werf  in  the  Electoral  Gallery  at  Man- 
heim,  I  have  noticed  two  paintings  at  Burleigh 
House,  "  by  Stamford  town,"  in  which  the  Holy 
Family  and  cherries  are  conspicuously  brought 
together.  The  one  is  a  ptunting  by  Passeri  in  the 
Purple  Satin  Dressing  Room,  and  represents  Joseph 
ood  Haxy  with  the  Bfibe,  who  is  playing  with  a 
mtty  of  cherries.  The  other  is  by  Leonardo  da 
Vinci  in  the  Queen'i  Drawing  Room,  and  depicts 
the  Virgin  and  Child,  the  latter  playing  with  a 
■  bunch  of  cherriea.  CnrKBSRi  Bidb. 


HousBLiiia  Cloths  (4'»S.iz.3I6.) — Houaeling 
I  cloths  are,  I  believe,  still  used  at  Leaminaton 
parish  church,  and  a  few  mote  churches  which 
will  be  found  mentioned  in  Hierurgia  Anglicaaa. 

CUFFOED  W.  POWBB. 

S.  John's  Collega,  Cambiidgo. 

"  Qehile  "  (4*  S.  ix.  200,  290,  328.)  —  In  the 
counties  of  York  and  Stafford  the  gillyflower  ia 
commonly  called  by  cottage  gardeners  "Sweet 
GiUivar;' aaA.  in  the  Valley  of  the  Dove,  North 
Staffiirdshire  the  dark-coloured  double  variety 
bears  the  somewhat  repulsive  name  of  "  Bloodj 
Wall."  AasA  Habehoit. 

BeckcDhstn. 

No  cottage  garden  in  Derbyshire  is  complete 
without  its  bed  of  sweet-smelling  Gilli vers  (CAsir- 
antktu  rheiri  —  wallflower)  in  'sprinff,  and  its 
"stock  QilUveis"  '{MaiJiiola  attttua)  in  summer 
and  autumn.  Both  plants  ore  commonly  called 
"  Gillivers  "  by  the  country  people. 

Edwib  CooLDra,  Joir. 

Derby. 

Ajithont  DATlDSOjf  (4"  S.  ix.  03, 171,  305.)— 
Your  correspondent  hnngs  to  notice  a  work  not 
hitherto  ascnbed  to  Davidson —i)uin/ruM.'(ii^nt. 
with  the  MS.  note  by  the  author — "pirated  and 
printed  by  some  unknown  hand."  I  have  onlv 
once  met  with  this  title,  but  omitted  taking  euca 
a  note  as  might  bare  identified  the  stolen  pro- 
perty i  this,  however,  I  do  remember — that  it  bore 
upon  the  face  of  it  "  By  W.  Quroey,"  suppia- 
mented  in  MS.  "  LL.D.,  Author  of  the  Xaeat 
Biography,"  &c  Sold  by  Murray,  London,  &c, 
1789.  Perhaps  some  one  can  rescue  the  Doctor 
from  the  bare  suspicion  involved. 

The  Shsndean  proclivities  of  Davidson  are 
proved  from  Canon  Jackson's  MSS,  Has  any- 
body seen  the  Sentimental  Journey  ascribed  to  bim 
by  the  theatrical  InographerP 

If  Davidson  hoe  less  assigned  to  bim  than  he  is 
entitled  to,  this  is  a  fikvourable  opportunity  to 
strike  out  what  does  not  belong  to  him.  In  the 
above-named  work  there  is  ascnbed  to  him  "  Tha 
Skuotu  in  the  Scottish  Dialect,  in  imitation  of 
Thomson."  The  compiler  had,  I  presume,  tha 
following  in  his  mind  when  dealing  with  Anthony 
Davidson — "  ThoughU  on  the  HeatOM,  Sfc,  adapted 
to  Scotland,  by  David  Davidson.  8vo.  London : 
Printed  for  the  Author.     1789." 

D.  D.'s  imitations  are  in  braid  Scots ;  he  boasts  . 
of  givlDK  his  pipings  in  an  ofl'-band  style,  moral* 
ising  in  blank  verse ;  but  when,  like  Thomson,  he 
would  introduce  a  story,  he  breaks  away  into  the 
joyous  metre  of  "Christ-Kirk  on  the  Qreen." 

"  Tbonsh  the  world,  he  uvi,  thould  laugh  no  resrling 
ths  following  sheets,  I  ihAll  wA  wtta  becauM  I  hart 
writtea  them.  But  I  presume  it  is  oalj  from  mj  caua- 
trymen  that  tha  laush  can  oame  (Tor  snnlv  Doao  will 
be  fbol  annnnh  to  ridiculg  what  be  iota  not  rally  nndar- 
((■nd>,  and  (he  titiificdaa  li  bat  SDuJl  of  one  Scotch- 
man iitytiilng  mother.". 


376  NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  C4«k&ix.iUTATt 


DaTidson  was  a  contemporary  of  Bums,  and  JHulCfllXttCOtUt. 
brought  out  his  Seasons  three  years  after  the  KU-  \ 

mamock  edition  of  the  poet,  but  I  can  nowhere  NOTES  ON  BOOKS.  ETC. 
find  any  notice  of  the  author,  nor  did  I  ever  see  a  i  ^  y^^  jj^^^^^  ^^  ^^  ^^^^  ^^  j,^^  «/  !*■  JWl 

second  copy  of  his  hook.                                    A.  Ci.     |  Beverend  Father  tn  God,  WUUam  BtdeiL  Lord  9mm 

"Hand  of  Glory"  {4«»  S.  ix.  238,  289.)— I  ■  of  Kilmore  in  Iretand.    Edkedfrpma  nfs.Jm  tk»  ^ 

.   ,    ..                 r  y     !._  _>ij  xi._x  ^i-_  i--_j  .ff  Jii '  iewn  Librartfj  Oxford,  and  awipbfied  with  CimtukmU 


thmk  it  ».ay  .afeW  be  said  that  the  hand  of  gl<,ry       -Xji^Tn^'S^^':^,;^^^ 

(%,  e,  a  dead  man  s  hand  with  a  candlo  T)laced  m  by  the  Repre$eniaHve  of  the  Buhop'M  Matkm»9  ntidb 

it)  did  not  have  the  cfiect  of  makinpr  people  power-  ofEUerton^  (y Thomas  Whartoii  Jones,  F.It&  (PriaM 

less  to  move.     Thieves  helieve  that  the  candle  for  the  Camden  Society.) 

and  person  holilinff  the  hand  are  invisible.     Sir  This  "  Relation  of  the  life  and  Death "  of  the  piMi 

Walter  Scott  evidently  thinks  it  a  forei^rn  charm,  f n<\  !«*7/d,^»><>P  <>' ^ilmore,  writ^  as  it  is  bAmd 

r     v       -!,««  7 \. ,.-*««««,:, ,«i ;«  Th^  A^a:^...».^.  ^iml  i>v  his  eldest  son,  the  Rev.  William  Bedell,  was  IbmUBr 
forhemRke8Douster8Wivelin7Ac.4w<if?;«/;ythus  ,  eommunicated  to  Archbishop    Suicroft  Vhen  hTiS 

describe  it:—  proposing  to  publish  the  "Life  and  Works  of  B 

**  Why,  my  p^ood  Master  Oldcnbuck,  you  will    only  hut  tliat  intention  never  having  been  fnlfilled,  the 


langh  at'mc.    But  dc  Hand  of  Glory  is  very  well  known     cil  of  the  Camden  Society  did  well  to  accept  Che  oAr  sf 
in  dc  countries  where  Your  worthy  progenitors  did  live ;     Mr.  Wharton  Jones, 


an  cnthnsiastic  admirer  of  tl 
and  it  is  a  hand  cut  ofT  from  a  man  as  has  been  hanged  bishop^s  character,  to  edit  the  woric  and  to  soppta 
for  murdrr,  nnd  dried  very  nice  in  de  shmoko  of  juniper  .  with  recorded  facts  of  Bishop  BedelKs  history  gathsnl 
wood ;  and  if  vdu  put  a  little  of  what  you  call  yew  wid  fn)m  I'arish  Registers ;  Wills ;  MSS.  and  Books  in  tht 
your  juniper,  it  will  not  be  any  better— that  is,  it  will     British  Museum  and  Bodleian  Libraries;  YflDedaatBd 


not  bo"  no  wort'e ;  then  you  do  take  Homothing  of  de  fatith  !  Irish  State  Papers ;  fhmi  the  Colleges  of  Anns  in 

of  dc  bear  and  of  de  badger,  and  of  de  little  sucking  child  ,  and  Dublin;   the  Diocesan  Bccistiy  of  NonrM;  Al 


as  has  not  been  christened,  and  you  do  make  a  candle  and     Library  of  Trinity  College,  Dablin  ;  and  the 

put  it  into  dc  Hand  of  Glor^'  at  de  profjer  hour  and     Library  of  Armagh.    When  we  add  that  the  editor 
miniifo  vitTi  ilf  nrnnpr  rprpmnniHh  :  and  he  who  seckcth      pniovod  the  AdvAntAireof  Bneei«IfiontrihiitJonalWim  fl 


minute  with  dc  proper  ccremonish  ;  and  he  who  seckcth  enjoyed  the  advantage  of  special  contributions  from 

for  trcasurcNh  shall  never  find  nunc  at  all."  so  well  able  to  render  him  efficient  aid,  as  the  Rev.  Da 

Tj.  *     i,««^  iw...«  ..o«*i   4?««  4i,>A',w>c,  A«^  Reeves  of  Armagh,  and  Professor  Stokes  ofDahBB.«V 

It  appears  to  have  been  used  for  finding  and  ^^^j^„  ^.,i  ^^jj^.  ^^^^  ^^^  the  book  U  omWMA 

concealing    treasure.      In  January,   J».J1,    soroe  ^-im^  hjphly  acceptable  to  all  who  honour  the 


thieves  broke    into  the   house  of  Mr.  Naper  of    of  Bishop  Bedell.    The  book  Is  the  fourth  of  the 
Loughcrew,  co.  Meath.   They  were  provided  with  ,  Series  of  the  Camden  Society  pnblicatioiUL  and  tbt 
a  hand  of  glory,  but,  being  disturbed,  left  it  behind  ;  ^  ">5«e  issued  in  return  fw  the  SobKripdoaoftto 
tlT  b      J)        f         o  1  Camden  year,  which  dates  from  May  2. 

Harlan d    and  "Wilkinson,   in   their  Lancashire     The  History  and  Tnpograplm  (if  Blurtvjfia*  and  ftc  H, 
Folk  Lore  (1807)  give  a  most  interesting  account        l/"  Kvarefhonmgh.    By  WHliam  Grainffe,  Aatte  if 


Of  a  dead  man^s  hand  formerly  at  Bryer  Hall,  but  ^^^l^^^.  ^ISiJ^'mI^J^^^ 

now,  according  to  Mannex  (/i.V^.  and  Topoff,  of  ^,^,  ,^^^,^  f^  ^.;  ^,^^^^^  ^'^  „  J""* 

Zrtncflr«/«rc)   preserved  m   the   pncsts  house   at  di^trict,  formcrlv  known  as  the  ReytlTorest  of 

Ashton-in-Mskerheld.      This  is   not   a   hand  of  borough,  of  which  it  may  be  almost  said  that  ne 


glory  used  by  thieves,  but  is  the  hand  of  Father     history  exists.    Mr.  Grainge  seems  to  have  taken  gfMft 
Arrowsmith,  a  Pionian  Catholic  priest,  who  was     pains  to  make  the  present  histoiy  a  complete  one;  aalli 

hung  in  1G28  because  he  had  the  misfortune  to    ^'^V*'"' .2' ^"^5  5""*^'*?,  P*^?' T^4'J!!!!!*!^S 

tr  n^      .     j.t    ^     X       1       "o^T ,•     I.'    rr     1-2 •  reader  will  find  descriptions  not  oniv  of  Hamintia  ■■ 

belong  to  that  church.     Roby,  in  his  fradUiaiis    ^^  j,,^  ,„„„y  interesting  if  little  lEnowa  lo^SSs^ 

of  Lancashire,    says   that  the    under-shenll    (a     which  It  is  surrounded.  The  work  wffl  donbt]«M  bt  «i7 

member  of  the  Kenyon  family)  refused  him  some  '  acceptable  to  Yorksliirs  antiquaiifls,  and  woald  hart 

favour  upon   the   gallows,  and  that  the  priest,     been  more  so,  and  rendered  yet  men  wsIIdI,  hf  • 

cursing  him,  said  that  every  heir  of  the  family  i  l»<i<?x« 

should  bo  a  cripple — a  prediction  said  to  have  '  Sermons  on  certain  of  the  h»»  Promineni  Facts  mmdS^ 

been  realised.     The  hand  of  the  priest  is  believed  '      J?^"  "*  ^^"'^  ^'f^-  ,%?Z^ ?^^k^^2jSl. 
r    1:         1  4.,«'  «+  i,;o  •«r.«L+  «T,/i  ^^^^^A  I      Canon  of  ^.  Paul's,  and  Chaplain  m  OrditaaiT  lo  Wi 

to  have  been  cut  oil  at  his  request  and  removed  i      (^„^„   j^  ^^^  Voinme,.  Nm^FAUikm.   (BivSgUMj 

to  Brjer  Hull,  working  some  wonderful   cures  ,      ^^^^^  ^„  ^,  ,.^^1^  ^^^y^  ^  ^^ popntori^ of  ^SnS 
.  afterwards.     Itoes  ( //t<^.  of  Lancashire,  m.  U38)  j  ^nd  neat  edition  of  Canon  Melvflrs  SermoM.    TW^ 


gives  an  account  of  a  wonderful  cure   wrought  !  go  eagerly  listened  to,  that  they  will  be  sure  to  be 

upon  a  boy  of  twelve  years  of  age,  the  son  of  rcod. 

Caryl  Harwarden   of  A ppleton- within- Widness.  Ancient  CloMnes  for  Englitk  Bmdars.    JCSiad9m§» 

He  had  been  deprived  of  the  use  of  his  limbs,  but        Rev.  W.  Lncos  Collin^  M.A.   Eur^idfa^  kg  VrtBM 

when  the  "  holy  hand  "  (as  the  Irish  harvestmen        Rodham  Donne.    (Blackwood.) 

call  it)  had  been  rubbed  on  his  back,  he  soon        The  editor  of  these  usefol  volnmes,  useAil  aHke  la  i 

recovered.    Messrs.  Harland  &  Wilkinson  mention  i  who  have  weU-nigh  foiyotten,  as  to  tiioa  ^am 

iU  application  to  a  maniac  in  1862  or  1863  Jl^rthl^slSfie'^^S^bJi^lSr:^^ 

John  Piogot,  Jun.,  F.S.  A.  ^^i^^  gcfaohv  and  liberal  eritio.  i4ai  mMs. 


1Ut4,'71] 


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377 


•led,  by  the  eoartesv  of  Mr.  Browning,  Mrs. 
Old  Mr.  FiUgenJd,  toose  their  admirable  trans- 
tbe  grest  works  of  **  the  Master,**  the  Euripidei 
ted,  forms  ooe  of  the  roost  interesting  oi  this 
eriw  of  books. 

!hapter-House  of  Westminster  Abbkt, 
[enry  III.  in  1250,  and  called,  on  accoont  of  its 
be  incomparable  Chapter-House,  was  on  Mon- 
yt  the  first  time  opened  to  the  public  It  has 
»red  by  Mr.  Gilbert  Scott  at  the  public  expenae. 
1  be  a  piardian  s^tioned  in  the  Cbapter-Uonse 
tard  of  Workit,  and  the  Dean  ha?  placed  here,  as 
yutB  of  the  Abbey,  brief  notices  of  the  history 
iarities  of  the  building.  Our  antiquarian  friends, 
imber  it  when  it  was  the  depository  of  oar  Na- 
icords,  will  rerisit  the  scene  of  their  frequent 
with  considerable  interest. 

OYAL  Literary  FuirD.~The  £ighty>third  An- 

will  be  celebrated  on  Wednesday  next,  when 

ty  the  King  of  the  Belgians  will  occupy  the  chair, 

I  t>y  their  Royal  Highnesses  the  Duke  of  £din- 
rince  Arthur,  and  the  Duke  of  Cambridge*  The 
ewaida,  numbering  three  hnndred,  inondes  the 
*  the  leading  members  of  the  Diplomatic  Corpi 
)th  Houses  of  Parliament,  together  with  a  nam- 
Bcial,  derieal,  legal,  medical,  literary,  artiatic, 
itific  celebrities.    Mr.  DisraeH  will  propose  the 

the  King  of  the  Belgians.    The  mnaioal  anan^^ 

II  be  under  the  direction  of  Sir  Julins  Benedict, 
e  cannot  fail  to  be  one  of  great  interest;  and  the 
nations  will,  we  trust,  be  worthy  of  the  oocaaion, 
dd  largely  to  the  funds  of  an  institution  which 
its  minion  with  a  judicious  liberality,  and  a  jost 
>r  the  sensitive  feelings  of  thope  who  hare  ooca- 
)ek  its  aid. 

)if  TopooRAPBT. — Among  other  articles  of  gr^at 
4>  be  seen  at  the  Soir^  of  the  Royal  Society  last 
r  evening  were  four  sheets  of  the  new  Ordnance 
Map  of  London,  60  inches  to  the  mile,  showing 
ict  from  Buckingham  Palace  to  the  Hou8ea«of . 
mt,  -exhibited  by  Colonel  Sir  Heniy  James. 
)ect  comparatively  few  of  those  interested  in 
topography  arc  aware  of  the  extent  to  which 
ces  of  the  Ordnance  Survey  have  been  applied  to 
tration  of  London.  The  Survey*  of  London  which 
ady  been  engraved  and  published  with  detaib 
J,  is  on  two  scales,  on  ^^  scale,  in  flfly-flve 
nd  on  the  5  feet  scale,  144  sheeta ;  while  of  the 
engraved  and  published  in  block,  there  are  819 
1  the  5  feet  scale,  forty-four  sheets  on  the  3  inch 
d  fifteen  on  the  6  inch  scale. 


J0BX80XIA5A.   S  Volt.  IHSO  (Boka).    Tol.  L  (out  of  pria^,  finnning 
^1.  iz.  of  B(MweU*i  *•  lift  of  JoluHoa.** 

Wanted  hf  Mr.  J.  Bouckier,  S,  Mutof  YIIIm,  Btrlef  H«ath.  8  JE. 

Nkwtos'b  PaivciPiA  nr  Esglish. 

iLLOsraATioro  or  Srsaaa,  with  other  BMtyi  aad  T«nu  by  John 
Ferriar.M.D.    IMS. 

RO80OK*8  ^OTSLIKTS*  LXBRAST.     UnCUt. 

Chrihtmas  Cakol.   OrigimU  Edition. 

PlCKKKIXa*8  M IXIATUaS  DIAMOND  SKAESPXaS.     Yol.  I. 
RaM8AT*8  ETBBaaXBX.    VoL  I.    17SI. 
Old  Chay-Book*. 

Wanted  hj  Matn.  Kerr  4*  Xirhard$on,  A9,  Qi 


Stow  (Sarah),  CoKnjm  PxAcncB  or  Mi»winDaT. 

1717. 

STKPHura  [or  STBvna]  (MAnoABVD,  Dombsho  Mnwm,  mm. 
LoiMLUma    17K.  , 

Wanted  hy  Dr,  AvdiMg^  1,  Upper  Wlmpola  Steiot,  W. 

OammoD's  Histobt  ov  CnaaHiaa.  s  VoU. 

LTsoas's  HimroaT  of  DaaaraHiaa. 

HoAwt*s  AMoinrr  WxLTaniaa. 

AsHMOLi's  UisToar  or  Bhbkshxbb.  3  ToU. 

Bmiiiea's  HnrroaT  or  KoBTBAMPfovaniaa.  tVols. 

GocLu*8  Biaoa  or  Evaora.  A  Yol*. 

Wasted  bf  Mr.  n^amm  Aatf.BookMllap.  It,  OeaAdt  ttnet. 
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Hkrmehtbudk  raJUur  muUUm  fJU  jntrpori  <f  J,  €L 
J:*  qnery,  which  was  {see  p.  221)  **  who  wot  J.  SobieM^ 
JSTmspo/i'oibad;  about  the  end  of  WeentniT,''^*.?  At 
p.  211  it  wiU  he  found  thai,  omfint  nedftm^'the  fvery,  wt 
ventured  to  tuMeet  there  mmsI  be  eome  mietmke  in  the  dktte 
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tronomlcal  Works. 

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ran  Books. 

rADOicr.  L.  Y.  Leyden,  Snyderiioef,  ▲.  Taa.4s  TiUa,  lie- 

^roon). 

wd  Illuminated  H anuaerlpte. 

i  by  Jtev.  y.  C. /aefeNW.  19,  Mawr 


Hamffinjhanrdena  of  the  dtg  vf  Jaiybn.  6.  The  9»tft 
hraxem  Image  of  tke  Smm  mt  Wkodee,  ctdkd  the  OUoeem 
6.  The  rich  Statue  of  Jt^ter  Oluw^ime,  eometrmeted  In 
ivory  amd  gold  huPhidiae,  mho  jttAhed  bjO.  440.  7. 
ThePharoe,  or  frateh'tomer^hmUt  by Ptokmy PkMmdd* 
phut.  King  of  Egypt. 

D.  D.  D.-^Dr,  Johm  Ogame'e  CamiNrdMiiaiTe  EtufiUk 
Dictionanr,  edited  by  RkAnrd  Ctil,  1864^  eomtttbm  mot 
only  a  Frommueina  Voeahmlary  ef  QreeM,  Lstfa,  and 
Scripture  Proper  Namee,  bmt  mm  mm  if  Modem  Omyrm 

phi^il  NanuM, 

A.  If.  MocATTAfHyda  Parii)^fW  the  arMs  ef  th$ 
phrm»eO.K.eee^}i.i(l''mS.x.in. 

H.  A.  Habmhob  (Kdiiib«i|4a«-  The  Hrnee  m  Oi 
difference  between  Knomiedge  and  WUdam  are  by  Oommer^ 
iSe  Task,  tL  M. 

Hardrio  UoKSwnxj^Hyde  AXbey^  of  mhkk  Mm 
Sakot,aiUM€epem,ma»thelm$tmbb9t^mmtwUkomtth9dl0 
wmUe  of  Winoheeter. 

Ctmbo  (BinBiaffbMi)^ir«  hmwe  m  Mv  fir  fw. 

Please  eand  yomr  aefdreee, 

ERBAToii.^-4^&is.  p.  S4I.esl.  LJkm4  tnm  btttea^ 
/or  •*  £dw«d  "  mmI  «  £d0«ad.* 

MOaCM* 

To  all  eommnnioaUoiia  ahoiild  ha  iAiiilht  mmm  aat 
addreaa  of  tba  aendert  aoi  nae— wHyliMrjuhiintiaa,  twl 
•a  a  gwurantea  offood  IMtk. 

We  beg  lemw  to  itat*  that  wa  dadbe  to  return  eoai> 
mnniiwitiniia  whtoht  t^r  taj  laaaoa,  we  do  not  print;  and 
to  this  mla  wa  oaa  maka  no  asoiptioa. 

AU  oooraiaBlaatku  iftMld  J»4ddMNd  to  tha  fldttov 
ifcthaa^%4%Wli^liagWi^WXi. 


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379 


LONDON,  SATURDAY^  MAT  U,  1872.  <  ^«5r  ^i^^.  that  he  may  not  add  the  evils  of  f^overtv  to  the 

.      — infirmities  of  old  airo-" 


CONTENTS.— N«.  22S. 

NOTES:  —  Dr.  James  Uri,  379  —  Actor*'  Tavorns,  380  — 
Thomas  Chauwr,  not  tlio  Poet  (iCoirr<<y's  Son,  381  -  "  Lit- 
tle. Jock  EUiot,"  &c..  3S:i  —  Mr.  Pitt  and  T:jcitus  —  Tobat'CO 
Smokinu:— Error  in  Oxford  Prmr-Books-- Our  Corre- 
s])ondc: it— Appropriate  Dt^rith  of  Hil)lionianiacs— Friendly 
Jvohins —  Sizo  of  Books  — A  Lady's  Maid  —  Marriar^e  of 
CromwoH's  Daui^htcr  to  Rich— Byron's  **  iMaid  of  Athens" 

—  "  Bibliotheque  univcrsellc  et  Revue  suisse,"  3^4. 

QUERIES!  — An  Authentic  Document,  38G  -  Nicholas  de 
3Ieaux,  387  —  Arms  of  LandaflT-  Th<?  **  Cnr4  of  ?.>•  toise  " 

—  Fly-leaf  Scribbling  —  Frontispiece  to  an  Old  Work  — 
German  Song:  wantctl  —  Tlio(i«rman  Sufffrersin  the  Wars 
of  1813-15— "The  Ladies'  Mo-.thly  3[us(.u  n  "  —  I^tin 
Bible,  1402  —  Linos  on  the  Munihs  —  Lusby.  n<-nr  Spilsby 

—  Mano  of  the  War-Hi.rse  — MHlian'al  prot«-<que  Sculp- 
tures and  Monsters  — Othello  — Pior>hill  Harricks.  Edin- 
buiyh  —  Proof  and  Pattern  CoinuKo  —  Quotation  wanted 

—  "The  ReKimental  Drum  "—Surnames  — Tom  Syddall'a 
Declaration  —  Windla^is  :  Compass,  3S7. 

REPLIES:- Stained-glass  Windows  at  Altenbcrg.  390  — 
Britton,  Bretton.Briitain,  Breton, or  Brittisn.  391— Round 
Towers  of  Norfolk,  76.—  llurns's  Copv  of  "  Sliakespeare," 
and  Blind  Harry's  ••Wallace."  .302  —  Blore's  "History 
and  Antiquities  of  the  tJounty  of  Rutland"  — Genius  "a 
Capacity  for  takins:  Trouble  "  —  Oliphant  Barony  —  Ilis- 
tor>'  of  the  Vaudois  —  Miss  Balfour  —  Tassie's  Seals- 
Windebank  Family  — "The  Battle  of  Floddm  Field"  — 
Parish  Registrrs  —  "  The  Outlandish  Knipht  "  —  "  Fools 
build  Houses."  &c. —  Lenten  Custom—  Heron  or  Heme — 
**lJarlay"  — Huntinffrion  County  History— Milton  Query 

—  Lonl  Macaulay's  New  Z»'alander  •—  Ago  of  Ships  — 
"  Fair  Science  frown'd  not,"  &c.,  303. 

Notes  on  Books,  Ac. 


infirmities  of  old  age.' 

In  addition  to  this  statement,  which  I  transcribe 
from  the  Memoirs  of  Dr.  Parry  by  J.  Johnstone, 
M.D.  (vol.  i.  p.  28^),  and  which  was  probably 
drawn  up  by  benevolent  friends,  Dr.  Uri  himself 
addressed  a  petition  to  the  members  of  the  IJni- 
versity,  fi-oni  which  we  may  gather  additional 
details.     In  it  ho  states : — 

"  That  your  petitioner  wa-»  invited  to  this  place  from 
j  the  University  of  Li»vd<?n.  w'h  n»  ho  wns  ^n^ra^ed  under 
Profe.ssor  Schultcns  in  a  literary  employment.  ^  That  he 
has  been  cnjaged  here  for  twentv-iwo  years,  in  which 
time  he  has  catalo;rued  and  deserihed  2,;):>.S  MSS.  in  nine 
Oriental  lan.Ejua.tres,  many  of  these  MSS.  containing 
several  distinct  Treatises,  and  f«)ur  of  these  languages 
have  been  learned  by  him  since  his  en^iigement.  That 
your  Petitioner  is  now  dismissed  from  his  employment; 
that  his  annual  salary  of  seventy-two  guineas  did  not 
afford  him  any  saving's:  and  that  he  has  only  a  bnndred 
pounds  to  subsist  on,  given  to  him  by  the  Delegates  of 
the  Press,  on  hi^s  dismission." 

Well  does  the  friend  and  biographer  of  Parr 
remark : — 


DR.  JAMES  URL 

Of  this  learned  and  unobtrusive  foreigner,  a 
great  part  of  whose  three-score  and  ten  years  was 
spent  among  us  —  if  so  we  can  speak  of  a  life 
consumed  in  the  dust  of  libraries,  and  the  inves- 
tiffation  of  the  mouldering  records  of  tho  past — 
it  is  difficult  to  catch  more  than  a  passing  glance, 
lie  was  an  .Hungarian  by  birth,  and  having  ac- 
quired a  considerable  reputation  as  an  Oriental 
linguist,  was  recommended  by  Sir  James  Yorke, 
our  ambassador  at  the  Hague,  to  the  University 
of  Oxford,  as  a  fit  and  proper  person  to  catalogue 
the  Oriental  MwSS.  in  the  Jiodleian  Library.  In 
that  seat  of  learning  he  remained  till  his  task  was 
completed — with  what  result  the  following  facts 
may  .show,  as  stated  in  '•  The  Case  of  John  Uri, 
a  native  of  Hungary,  and  D.I),  in  the  University 
of  Harderwick :'' — 

"  Dr.  Uri  has  been  employed  in  the  University  of 
Oxford  for  more  than  twenty  years  in  making  a  Cata- 
logue of  the  Oriental  MSS.  in  the  Bodleian  Library.  His 
engagement  having  cea«ed,  and  with  it  his  annual  salary, 
all  that  remains  for  his  future  subsistence  is  a  hundred 
poynds,  which  he  received  as  a  gratuity  from  the  dele- 
gates of  the  press,  at  the  conclusion  of  his  employ.  He 
is  now^  itixfy  years  of  age ;  has  been  absent  from  his  own 
country-  about  forty  years ;  has  no  connection  or  friends 
remaining  there,  nor  any  prospect  of  futnre  employmenL 
The  .mbscriptions  of  the  friends  of  humanity  and  litera- 
ture are  therefore  earnestly  requested  to  rescue  a  man  of 
letters  from  want,  and  to  secure  him  a  decent  provision 


"If  this  was  all  ho  had  to  subsist  on— if  these 


:cre 

rs 


II  LUIS  was  ail  ne  nau  lo  snosisc  on — ii  tnese  we 
the  only  gains  of  such  long-continued  and  learned  latiSi 
he  had  right  not  only  to  petition,  but  to  complain,  and 
even  to  demand  a  viaticum  for  his  grey  hairs." 

This,  it  is  pleasing  to  know,  was  not  refused, 
and  that  the  learned  and  simple-hearted  Hunga- 
rian was  provided  with  a  shelter  for  his  age,  in  the 
country  and  the  city  which  had  become  as  a  second 
birth-place  to  him.  It  is  pleasing,  too,  to  record 
the  names  of  the  benevolent  scholars  by  whoso 
exertions  a  provision  was  secured  to  him.  These 
were  Dr.  Cyril  Jackson.  Dr.  Routh,  Dr.  Smyth  of 
Pembroke  College,  Dr.  Parr,  Mr.  Kett  of  Trinity, 
and  Mr.  Agutter  of  Magdalen.  A  grateful  letter 
to  Parr  is  preserved  in  his  Memoirs : — 

"  Grata  igitur  beneficii  tui  rocordatio  vivet  in  animo 
meo,  donee  inter  a7Toy  tl5o»^ay  oculis  usurpabo  yKv 
Kfphv  tfxios  ^€Xfo<o.  Sed  cogitata  di;nie  proloqui  non  pos- 
sum ;  quicquid  cnim  dico,  minus  est,  quam  dicere  volo, 
&c" 

A  short  Latin  letter  to  Dr.  Kett  gives  a  pleasing 
glimpse  of  the  Doctor  in  the  enjoyment  of  the 
modest  ease  he  had  so  well  earned : — 

"  Venerando  Domine  Kett.  Feb.  18. 

**Rogo  te,  perquam  bonorifice,  tit  Chirographum 
tnum.  Domino  Brookes  tradendum,  transmittere  ad  mo 
digneris  una  cum  quatuor  guincis. 

**  Fons  bencvolentin  et  candoris,  Reverendtu  Agutter, 
postquam  te  convenerat,  me  quoque  convenit. 

"  Nimia  fostinatio,  quft  \tt^eufoy  xp^ov  yivovs  Doctor 
Parr  nuper  usus  erat,  pnocidit  mihi  omnem  opportunita- 
tem  T08  alloquendi.  Promiserat  se  acquenti  die  ante 
meridiem  ventunim.  Itaque  expectans  eum  lapides  ni- 
gros  super  foco  large  reposui;  tnbos  candidos,  qnibus 
Aimos  tabaci  exhauriri  aolet,  prasparavi ;  sellas,  remote 
panltdum  mensA,  ad  ignem  admovi :  at  eheu !  non  con- 
tiglt  mihi  ipaam  videre.  Vale.  Sum,  et  ero,  nominis 
tiS  cnltor  perpetnufl^  J.  Uri.*' 


380 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4(fc  S.  IX.  Mat  11,  71 


This  Kelt  was  a  singular  character.  In  his 
younger  days  his  manner  was  characterised  bj 
such  preternatural  pjavity,  that  ho  acquired  the 
title  of  ^*  Father  Kett*'  lie  was  classical  tutor, 
Bampton  lecturer,  author  of  three  volumes  on 
the  Prophecies,  and  of  a  book  entitled  The  Ele- 
ments of  Knowleilyc,  which  has  gone  through 
several  editions ;  but  years,  which  are  wont  to 
bring  the  philosonliic  mind,  are  sometimes  apt  to 
remove  it,  when  tncy  find  it  already  existing.  Kett 
became  a  beau,  a  man  of  the  world,  exhibited 
trophies  of  gallantn%  and  learnt  dancing.  Now 
it  was  that  he  pulslished  his  Juvetiile  Poems,  a 
novel  entitled  Emibf,  and  his  Flowers  of  WiL  He 
was  senior  fellow,  but  twice  missed  the  headship 
of  his  college.  The  disappointment  destroyed  his 
tottering  mental  balance,  and  he  had  to  be  placed 
under  the  supervision  of  a  medical  friend.  lie 
married,  and  soon  after  committed  suicide.  See 
that  indigested  c<:)njrlomerate,  ParrianUy  by  E.  II. 
Barker,  vol.  i.  p.  4i'4. 

To  return  to  Uri.  It  would  appear,  though  I 
have  foimd  no  record  of  his  death,  that  some  half 
BCGtQ  of  years  were  allotted  to  him  in  the  retreat 
tuk  provided  for  him,  and  among  the  friends 
who  had  learned  to  love  and  respect  him.  Some 
twenty  years  later— about  1812 — another  distin- 
guished scholar,  tlio  celebrated  Adam  Clarke, 
engaged  under  the  llecord  Commission  to  edit 
and  supplement  the  Fwdera  of  Kymer,  had  occa- 
sion to  visit  Oxford  to  make  researches  in  its 
libraries,  and  there  chanced  to  take  up  his  tem- 
porarv'  abode  in  tlie  very  apartments  so  long  occu- 
pied by  the  leanit'd  Orientalist.  Before  his  depar- 
ture, no  left  th»»  following  memorial  of  his  visit, 
and  of  liis  rospe(!t  f»)r  the  character  and  learning 
of  his  predecessor,  on  one  of  the  panes  of  the 
window  in  the  room  in  which  the  latter^breathed 
his  lost : — 

•*  Sacred  to  tho  memory  of  John  Uri,  D.D.,  bom  in 
Hungary  and  eilucatud  at  Ley  den.  He  was  |invited 
over  into  Pln^land  by  tlie  University  of  Oxfonl.  to  d©- 
Hcrilte,  arrange,  and  oatnld^rue  tlic  Oriental  MSS.  in  the 
Bodleian  Librnr}'.  II is  ohlcst  and  most  intimate  ac- 
quaintance ever  found  him  to  be  an  honest  man,  a  pleas- 
ing companion,  and  a  conscientious  Christian.  To  his 
profound  knowIe<lgc  as  an  Oriental  scholar,  his  Catalogue 
of  the  Arabic  MSS.  in  the  Uo<iIcian  Library,  his  Hebrew 
and  Arabic  Grammar,  his  edition  and  Latin  translation 
of  the  celebrated  Arabic  poem  called  *A1  Bordha,*  to- 
gether with  bis  numerous  pupils  who  have  distinguished 
themselves  in  the  walks  of  literature  opened  to  them  by 
their  preceptor,  bear  the  mast  distinguished  and  decided 
testimony.  A  stranger  to  his  person,  but  not  to  his  lite- 
rary and  moral  worth,  dares  to  entrust  even  to  Glass,  in 
the  apartment  twenty-five  years  occupied  by  this  eminent 
man,  this  memorial  to  learning  that  can  never  peridi, 
and  virtues  that  can  never  die.  After  suffering  mach  by 
increasing  infirmities  during  the  last  two  years  of  his  life, 
he  died  suddenly  in  his  apartments,  about  eight  o'clock 
of  the  evening  of  October  18,  1796,  aged  seventy  yean. 
His  mortal  remains  were  deposited  in  the  chancel  of  St. 
Michael's  Church,  in  this  dty,  where,  for  lack  of  a  moon- 
ment,  the  passenger  can  scarcely  say,  here  lies  Uri." 


An  admirable  and  characteristic  Latin  letter 
from  Dr.  Uri  to  that  prodigy  of  learning,  the 
early-lost  and  eccentric  John  Henderson,  B.A.y  of 
Pembroke  College,  Oxford,  will  be  found  in  the 
Gentlemmi's  Magazine^  yol.  Ixiz.  p.  752. 

WiLLiAX  Bates. 

Birmingham. 

ACTORS'  TAVERNS. 

For  some  time  past,  Mr.  E.  L.  Blanchard  has 
contributed  each  week,  tO^e  Binningham  Daily 
Gazette,  an  excellent  article  under  the  title  ''  Lon- 
don Amusements.*'  In  the  one  that  appeared 
on  April  10,  he  gives  an  interesting  account  of 
various  taverns  in  I^ondon  that  have  been  the 
resort  of  the  theatrical  profession;  and,  as  he 
names  several  of  which  no  mention  is  made  in 
Mr.  Hotten*s  compendious  History  of  Signhoardsy 
I  will  hero  make  a  few  extracts  from  Mr.  Blan- 
chard*s  article. 

Beginning  with  the  "Mermaid**  and  "Devil 
Tavern,"  and  hostelries'  of  the  Ben  Jonson  period, 
Mr.  Blanchard  passes  on  to  ''  The  Black  Jack  '* ; 
and,  in  addition  to  what  is  said  concerning  it  in 
Mr.  Hotten's  book,  writes  thus :  — 

**  It  was  once  kept  by  a  relative  of  MackUn*s  mother, 
and  here  Macklin,  afterwards  ho  celebrated  as  Shylock, 
'  the  Jew  that  Shakspere  drew,*  officiated  as  waiter. 
George  Frederick  Cooke,  and  the  old  actors  of  Dmiy 
Lane,  were  habitually  to  be  found  here  after  the  per- 
formances.  One  of  the  most  singular  frequenters  of  the 
parlour  was  a  man  named  Bibl),  who  had  been  brooght 
up  as  an  engraver,  but  who  had  displayed  little  industrr 
in  his  profession.  Hi:}  father  left  him  an  annuity,  wbich 
was  to  be  paid  at  the  rate  of  two  guineas  a  week,  and 
never  to  be  advanced  beyond  that  sum.  This  amount 
was,  however,  generally  dissipated  the  day  it  was  re- 
ceived. And  he  would  then  sit  on  the  stops  of  the  house 
belonging  to  his  sister,  who  had  married  an  eminent 
merchant,  until  the  crowd  that  collected  compelled  a 
compliance  with  his  requests  for  a  further  sum.*' 

He  was  called  **  llalfcrown  Bibb,"  and  was  the 

original  of  the  character  of  Jeremy  Diddler,  and 

died  on  the  ni^ht  that  the  farce  of  Raismy  tha 

Wind  was  produced.    Mention  is  then  made  of 

"  The  Wrekm,"  in  Broad  Court,  Covent  Garden. 

kept  by  a  Shropshire  man  named  Powell,  and 

frequented  by  actors.    It  was  afterwards  kept  by 

a  Herefordshire  man  of  good  family,  named  Har^ 

rold,  and  was  used  by  John  and  Charles  Kemble 

and  the  members  of  his  company :  — 

**  Mr.  Warner,  the  hosband  of  the  celebrated  tragic 
actress  Mrs.  Warner,  was  at  one  time  the  landlord,  and 
Mr.  Hemming,  an  esteemed  actor  at  the  Haymarket  and 
Adelphi  theatres,  was  another.  Two  famous  clubs  won 
here  instituted,  one  called  *  The  Rationals,'  and  the  other 
the  '  House  of  Uncommons.'  When  Hemming  left*  to 
become  lessee  of  the  *  Cafl^  de  TEurope,'  in  the  HajmailMt, 
he  took  the  best  of  the  visitors  away  with  him.  From 
1842  '  The  Wrekln '  began  to  dedins^  and  of  lata  yaan 
its  declension  has  been  so  rapid  that  iU  old  frsqmBleia 
most  have  breathed  a  sigh  of  relief  as  they  pasted  throBgh 
Broad  Court  last  Jaonary  and  found  toe  anetait  hom 


4«>  S.  IX.  Mat  11,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


381 


levelled  to  the  ground,  and  its  position  occupied  by  a 
block  of  new  houses,  manifestly  let  to  respectable  tenants. 
«  The  *0.  P.  and  1*.  S.,'  in  Russell  Court,  favoured  by 
the  presence  of  Kilmund  Kean,  and  the  rall3'ing- point  of 
his  staunch  supporters,  'The  Wolves,'  has  long  since 
vanished.  So  has  the  adjacent  hostelry  of  *  The  Cheshire 
Cheese,'  long  kept  by  the  widow  Skearsby,  where,  as 
recently  as  five-and-twenty  years  ago,  the  *  Mites  *  held 
high  revel." 

Of  *'  The  Wrekin,"  and  the  other  taverns  here 
mentioned,  no  notice  is  taken  in  Mr.^Hot ten's  book, 
with  the  exception  of  "The  Che'shire  Cheese," 
though  he  does  not  speak  of  the  club  called  "  The 
Mitee/' 

Of  the  '^  Craven's  Head,"  Drury  Lane,  Mr. 
Blanchard  writes:  "Oxberry  became  landlord, 
and  used  to  say,  '  We  vocalise  of  a  Friday,  con- 
versationalise  of  a  Sunday,  and  chopise  every 
day.' "  The  particulars  mentioned  in  the  follow- 
ing extract  are  not  referred  to  in  Mr.  Hotten's 
book,  though  the  names  of  the  taverns  are  there 
recorded :  — 

**  *  The  Harp,'  in  Little  Russell  Street,  was  long  noto- 
rious as  the  resort  of  poor  and  disengaged  actors.  Here 
Sims  the  elder  flourished  for  manj'  years.  He  was  suc- 
ceeded by  his  son,  a  tablet  to  whose  memoir  may  still  be 
seen  in  the  parlour  of  the  aforesaid  hostelry.  In  these 
words  is  he  commemorated :  *  A  tribute  of  respect  to  the 
memory  of  Sir  William  Sims,  theatrical  agent.  Obiit 
Feb.  9th,  1^41.  yEtat.  54.  He  was  for  thirt^'^-five  years 
a  distinguished  member  of  this  city,  and  thrice  Lord 
Mayor.  Many  successful  aspirants  to  histrionic  fame  are 
indebted  to  him  for  their  advancement  in  the  profession, 
and  can  look  back  with  gratitude  to  his  advice  and 
assistance.'  The  uninitiated  may  be  advantageously  told 
that  certain  burlesque  ceremonies  of  municipal  election 
are  still  continued  at  specified  intervals,  when  nominal 
dignities  are  humoroasl}'  conferred.  The  room  retains 
all  the  original  *  wards,'  and  the  *  Edmund  Kean  comer ' 
is  scrupulously  maintained  as  the  post  of  honour. 

"  The  amateurs  of  forty  j-ears  ago  met  at  a  tavern  in 
Mount  Pleasant,  Gray's  Inn  Road,  kept  by  John  Stafford 
Ing,  an  industrious  writer  uf  pieces  for  the  minor  theatres. 
The  house  was  conveniently  near  to  Pym's  private 
theatre,  where  many  afterwards  recognised  celebrities 
first  tried  their  footing  in  the  sock  and  buskin.  Further 
northward  was  the  *  Sir  Hugh  Myddelton,'  on  the  banks 
of  the  New  River,  with  an  exclusive  apartment  known 
as  *  the  Crib,'  generally  well  filled  by  members  of  the 
Sadler's  Wells  company  and  visitors  of  artistic  tastes. 
To  the  coffee  room  of  the  *  Myddelton  *  exactly  at  six 
o'clock  every  day  for  thirty  years  came  George  Daniel 
(the  *  D.  G.'  of  CumberlaiujCs  British  Drama)  to  enjoy 
his  chop  and  a  chat,  generally  about  Charles  Lamb  and  the 
old  actors,  with  all  of  whom  the  pleasant  old  gentleman 
had  enjoyed  the  privilege  of  early  intimacy. 

"  The  <  Bedford  Head,'  in  Maiden  Lane,  Covent  Garden, 
will  disappear  next  month  before  the  march  of  niodmi 
improvements  ;  but  from  the  days  of  Hogarth  i      Vol- 
taire, who  UvckI  next  door,  to  a  tmtj  ncNnt  d       'Am 
tavern  was  a  well-known  midflBTima  of  utiifek 
and  actors.   When  this  haa  gooft 
in  1828,  will  alone  repnaln  •^ 
more  patronage  from  ; 
and  sren  here  the  alt^- 
will  go  Our  toohang 
fimiluur' plaoeib'' 


THOMAS  CHAUCER,  NOT  THE  POET 
GEOFFREY'S  SON. 

There  is  not  one  scrap  of  direct  or  indirect  evi- 
dence for  the  supposition  that  the  wealthy  Thomas 
Chaucer  was  the  son,  or  any  relative,  of  the  poet 
Chaucer.  Against  the  supposition  there  is  such 
strong  indirect  evidence  as  almost  to  amount  to 
proof  of  the  absurdity  of  the  hypothesis.  If  Chau- 
cer had  had  an  elder  son  living  when  he  wrote  hia 
Treatise  on  the  Astrolabe  in  1391  for  his  little 
son  Lewis,  would  not  he  have  been  sure  to  make 
some  allusion  to  the  boy's  elder  brother?  If 
Chaucer  had  had  an  elder  son,  who  was  Chief 
Butler  to  Richard  II.,  and  well  off,  would  he 
have  had  to  write  to  other  men  about  his  povert}^ 
and  ask  them  to  intercede  for  money  for  him? 
Thirdly,  and  this  brings  me  to  the  occasion  of  this 
note :  if  Thomas  Chaucer  had  been  Geof&ey's  son 
or  relative,  is  it  possible  that  Lydgate,  when  writ- 
ing of  Thomas  in  1414— only  fourteen  years  after 
Geoffrey's  death— and  praising  Thomas  for  his 
goodfellowship,  his  kindness,  geniality  and  bounty, 
should  not  have  said  a  word  as  to  the  fathft 
whom  he  (Lydgate)  loved  and  honoured,  whom 
he  took  every  opportunity  of  mentioning  with 
affectionate  praise,  and  who  was  surely,  of  all  men 
in  the  latter  half  of  the  fourteenth  century,  the 
best  "company"  in  England — worthy  of  Ben 
Jonson's  praise  of  Shakspere  two  hundred  yeaia 
later?  Is  it,  again;  pos^ble  that  Shirley,  the 
contemporary  of  Geoffrey  and  Thomas  Chaucer 
and  of  Ijydgate,  should,  when  copying  Lydgate's 


Thomas  had  been  Shirley's  "aureate  poete's " 
son,  and  not  a  man  well  known  to  have  nothing 
to  do  with  that  poet  ?  The  conviction  is  so  strong 
on  me  that  if  Thomas  had  been  Geoffrey's  son, 
both  Lydgate  and  Shirley  would  have  noticed  the 
fact,  that!  ask  for  space  in  "  N.  &  Q."  for  Lyd- 
gate's two  poems  in  Shirley's  handwriting,  even 
though  they  are  long.  If  they  can't  be  spared 
space  in  one  number,  they  may  in  two. 

F.  J.  FURKIVALL. 

Addit.  MS.  16,165,  Bnt,  Mtu.,  If,  248. 
%  Balade  made  by  Lydegate  at  \te  Departvng  of)  By  lide- 
Thomas  Chaacyer  on  Ambassade  in  to  ffrance  j  gate. 

^  0  )>ow  lac3ma  i  qwene  and  Empyrease  | 
Of  waters  alle  |  and  of  floodes  rage  i 
And  deped  art  |  lady  and  goddesse  { 
Of  Jomeyings  |  and  fortunate  passage  | 
Gooeme  and  guy  e  |  by  grace  ]^  vyage 
bowe  beoenly  o  weene  |  sith  I  of  hert  prey 
lly  ?nAV8tereChancyer  |  goodes  to  convey  |  i.  Thomas 

Ai  I      iicer«  dqtuiin  on  Ambattate,  If.  249,  a. 

I  w  expl^ten-*and  foi)>eme  on  his  way  | 


inlannuispode  I  ay  in  his  Jonmee 
1 1  make  eke  no  deLaye  | 


f  If.  248,  bk.») 


'  '      headline  is  Balade  made. 


382 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[4>kS.lX.MAxi:,7t 


Ilym  to  fanoar  I  whanc  he  is  on  he  see 
preserving  him  |  fr(»mc  nl  aduersyteo  | 
ffi'ome  al  trouble  |  of  wynde  and  eke  of  wawe  \ 
And  lat  by  grace  |  so  to  him  adawo 
^  |>at  whcr  to  hyra  |  may  bee  moost  plesaunce 
her  make  him  laiide  |  he  |  and  his  meynee  | 
And  god  I  prey  I  |)C  whylo  ho  is  [in]  tfraunco 
I'o  sc'ude  him  iioitho  |  and  pmspan'tee 
Hasty  repay  re  |  hoome  |  to  bis  cuntree  | 
To  rcconfort  |  her  j  with  his  presence 
Ifolkys  ))at  mowme  |  moost  lor  his  absence  | 

^  flFor  soht'ly  n^we  |  ))a.£frcable  sonne  | 
Of  houshohling  |  and  fulsum  haboundaunce  | 
£cli))sid  is  |  as  men  recordcn  konnc  | 
)>at  fouudcn  her  j  so  ryohe  souflisaunce 
flredum  bountee  |  with  t^ode  j^overuaunce 
Disport  largesse  :  Joye  and  al  gladncsse  | 
And  passingly  |  goode  chcre  with  gcntylessc 

^  Certes  also  |  godd<!'»se  of  welfare  j 
was  ay  present  I  hir  chaare  with  plcnteo  lado 
And  J3acus  Kr  |  ne  koiido  neuer  spare  | 
"With  his  lykour  I  hertes  for  to  glade  | 
Ilefresshe  fblkis  |  )>at  were  of  colour  fade  | 
"With  bis  c<.»ndnytf5  |  moost  plentyoous  baboiindc 
\)Q  wellis  bed  |  so  fulsome  ay  is  founde  | 

^  His  moost  Joye  |  is  Junly  cret  repay  re  |  (If.  249) 
Of  gentilmen  |  of  he^be  and  lowe  estate 
bat  biin  ibeuke)>  i  bube  in  foule  and  fayre  | 
"VVith-outen  hc:ii  |  he  is  but  do^»olate  | 
And  to  li«>  loued  |  |>o  moost  fortunate 
bat  cucr  T  kn.'we  |  with  othc  of  so)>efastuesse  | 
Of  liyciu.'  and  pore  |  for  bountcuouse  largesse 

%  And  gentyl  Molijns  \  myn  owon  lord  so  dor  | 
Lytcl  mcrvoylo  I  |>ongbe  bow  sighc  and  pleyne  ] 
Now  to  forgone  |  bin  avon  ]dcying  fecre  | 
1  wot  rlj^ht  wi.l  i  hit  is  to  be  grct  peyno 
l?ut  hauo  g(»)d  hopi?  |  sooiie  for  to  atteync  | 
bin  herlis  bli'SL*  |  jiLCayne  and  b"t  ri:rbt  sone  | 
Or  foure  tymi.'s  |  ecbuunge<l  be  )'e  Mono  ( 

\  Lat  be  yourc  wepiug  |  tendre  creature  |  i.  la  femmo 

Chaucer 
Bv  mv  sainte  Elpvne  I  fer  away  in  Ynde 
How  shoide  ye  |  be  gret  woo  endur'i  | 
Of  his  absence  |  b'lt  been  so  truwe  and  kynde  | 
Ilab^;  him  amonge  |  cnprynted  in  yo?<r  mynde  | 
And  seytlc  for  him  |  shortly  in  a  clause  I* 
Goddes  soule  to  him  |  bat  been  in  cause  | 

^  Ye  gentilmen  |  dwelling  envyroun  | 
His  absence  eke  J  ye  aught  to  comyileyne  | 
fFor  fanvell  nowe  j  as  in  conclusyoun 
Youre  jdcye  |  your  .loye  |  yif  I  sh;d  not  foync  | 
fl'arewi'l  huntyng  |  and  bawkyng  bobe  tweyne 
And  farcwel  nowi-  |  cheef  cause  of  yu?<r  desport 
ITor  ho  absent  (  farcwul  youre  rocouifort  |   (If.  219,  bk.) 
Late  him  |  not  iu)W(.>  :  dut  of  Uemembraunce  | 
But  cuer  anion ::<■  |  Imbe  bim  in  meniorye  | 
And  for  his  suake  |  as  in  youre  dalyaunce  | 

Savlhe  euijry  day  |  dcuotely  bis  niemoyro 
Samt  Julyan  |  owro  Joye  and  al  owre  gloyre  | 
Come  hoonui  agoym*  J  lyche  as  we  desyre  | 
To  suppowaylen  j  al  be  hole  shyre  | 
And  for  my  part  |  I  scy  right  as  I  tlienk  | 
I  am  pure  sorj'  |  and  he^y  in  myn  hert  | 
More  \>tiiv  1  |  oxpn's-jc  can  wryte  with  Inko 
be  want  of  him  I  so  sore  dobo'me  sniert  | 
But  for  al  ]>at  |  hit  shal  me  nought  astert  | 
Daye  and  night  |  with  hcrt  debonayre  | 
And  pray  to  god  I  bat  he  soone  niav  repa^TC  | 

[Collated  with  Shirle^''s  Ashm.  MS.  59, 
(Bodl.  Lib.),  If.  45*,  bk.  ] 


Shirley't  Addit  MS.  16,165,  BriL  Mum,,  if.  249^  hL 
^  Ameroufl  balide  |  by  Lydegate  made  |  at  dcp(ar)Cliv 
of  Thomas  Chauclers'  on  be  kj'nges  ambaamB  into 
ffraunce. 

^  Euery  manor  creature  I 

Disposed  |  yn-to  genty lease  | 

Bo  be  of  kynde  |  and  of  nature  | 

Hai»e  in  hert*  moat  gladnesse 

Ifo^  tabyde  in  sothfastnesse  | 

WheH  iiis  Joye  |  is  moost  entier 

And  I  ly ve  euer  in  hevynesse 

But  whenne  |  I  se  my  huly  dere 
^  Eke  euery  wiglit  of  yerray*  kynde  | 

Is  glad  and  miry'  for  to  ab;**^  I 

Wher7  bat  is  wiUe  |  bought'*  and  mynde 

(head  249,  bk. 

At  Chauoers  departui(;e  (250) 
^  In  to  ffriflce  of  Ambanade). 

Beo  fully  sett  |  on  euery  sj-de  | 

And  wher-so  bat  I  go  or  ryde  | 

I :  ne  can  be  glad  |  in'no  manor  |   (If.  250) 

As  gOiX  and  fortune  list  pwvyde 

But  whanne  |  I  see  my  lady  der  ] 

[The  title  to  the  Ashm.  MS.  :— 

Here  folowbe  nexst  a  compleynte  made  bv  Lyd^gite 
for  b«  departing  of  Thomas  Chancier  in  to  ffraanoe  1^ 
hes  seruauntz  ypon  b^  kynges  amboasate.^ 
Headings : — 

^  b^ibsence  of  Thorns  Chaucier  by  Lidegate  (4) 

%  Balado  by  l^idegate  (&) 

^  Lydegate  |  sec  my  ladye  dere. 

f  Who  partcbe  out  of  paradvs  | 
iTrome  bat  place  |  so  fal  of  gloiye  | 
Wher  as  mirthc  |  is  moste  prya^    ^ 
And  Joye  haj>c  |  soucrain  yiciorye 
What  wonder  |  whanc  he  ha  be  memoije 
Of  al  bonghci<>  he  I  beo  dul  of  Chera  | 
fibr  1  am  euer"  in  Turgatorye  | 
But  whanne  |  1  sco  my  lady  dere 

^  be  sterres  of  \ie  heghe  heuen  | 
flliyrest  sliyne  |  vn-to  oore  sight 
And  b<?  planetes*  |  alio  seven 
Moost  fulsomly  J  yif  J>er  hir'*  li^t^* 
And  phebus  |  Vith  his  hemes  bright 
Gladdest  |  shyneji  j  in  his  Hwere" 
But  I  am  neuer  glad  ner>*  light 
Save  whanne  1  wo  my  lady  dere. 

^  Eke  phebus  |  in  oure  Emyspirj-c*' 
Affter*8  derknesse  |  of  be  night 
At  his  vpr>'8t'o  yolowe  as  golde  clerc** 
Krly  on  morowe  of  kyndely  right 
whanne  (c)laidis3i  blake  |  haae  no  might 
To  chacc  awey  |  ''his  beings^  dere  | 
Bight  so  fromc  sorowe  j  I  stande  ypright 
whane  bat  I  se  |  my  lady  der  | 

%  )>e  fooles  bat  ilyebe>*  in  be  eyre  | 
And  freshlyS^  singe  |  and  mirthes  make  | 


IS 


«  his  hert.  »  ffor.  *  Wher  |ict  * 

«  mnry.      7  WTie  (^sic).       «  bobe  tltoaght.      •  of 

10  bat.       *  *  everv'.        **  planetjs  eke.        " 

w  This  line  is  foflowed  by.  And  alk  ^e 
scyen ;  but  it  is  dotted  mmdermtoHkfSr 

1*  spere.  "  ne.       *'  emyapemi 

*9  yprist. 

so  «  yolowe  as  golde  dere  "  is  ftom 
16,165  rca(hi  **i8  most  light" 

««-»  be  dowdes.  »  fly 


4«>S.IX.  Mat  11, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


383 


In  May  l>e  sesoun  |  is  so  fuyre  ) 
(Lf.  251,  bk.)    ^  Balade  made  by  \  ^Lidegate  daun  John. 
With  all  >e2*  ri^ht  o|>e36  hera«7  awake  | 
Rc'ioyesse)»e  euen-che-^  with  his  make  J 
With  hur*2»  heuenh*  notes  clecr 

m 

Kicht  f>u^^^  al  sorowe  in  me  doJ>e  slake  | 
Whanue  j^at  I  se  my  lade  der  | 

%   f>e  hcrt  [>e  hynde  |  in  J>e3i  forest 
Moost  luste"  beo  |  of  J)eyre  corage  | 
And  euery  ^^maner  oiler's  beest 
Bo^e  ^e  same  |  and  eke  sauvage  | 
Stonden  mos't  |  at  avaunta^e  j 
In  laundis  |  whanne  |>ey  renne**  efeer  | 
J>us  eiicr  f^lad  |  is  my  visage  j 
Whanne  J-at  I  se  ray  lady  dere.  | 

•[  I  dare  eke  seyne*^  |  ]>hat  Buck  |  and  do^  | 

Amonge  J?e  holtis  |  hore  and  pay37  j 

^c  licynder***  |  and  J>e  wjlde  Kao. 

In  niersshes  |  haue  K'yre  moste  pley 

WhcT  hey  1)00  voyde  |  from  al  affrayc 

And  even  lyke'*  |  with-oate^®  ^ere 

Myn  hcrt  is  glad  boJ?e  night  and  day 

Whane  bat  I  sco**  |  my  lady  dere.  | 
\  Wlmt  is  a  fisshc  [  out  of  |>e  sea  ( 

fFor  alle  hi.s  scales**  [  siluer  shccae  | 

But  (led  anoon  as  man  may  se 

Or  in  Ilyuors  m'stal  clene 

Tyke  l.afjt^'  or  tenche  with  fTynnes  grene  ] 

Out  of  he  water  |  whane  \>ey  appere**  | 

Jius  dcethe**  (iarkel?e  myn  hert  kene 

f>cr  I  beo  naught  my  lady  dere  | 

^  |>e  fiuby  stande))*'^  best  in  J>e  rvng 
Of  gold  whanne  hit  is  polisshed*^  newe  | 
J>enierande  eke*' — is  ay*^  lastings  | 
whil  hit"**  abydejjc  |  with  his  hert^'  trawe 
}>e  saphyro  |  with  his  hcvenly  hewe  | 
Maket>o  gounded"  ej-en  clere  | 
Jnis  my  loye  do^e  ay  renewe  | 
Whanne  J>at  I  se  |  my  lady  dere. 

%  }>e  tlowres  on  l^eyrc  stalkcs  vnclose 
Springy ng  in  J>c  bawmy  mcd 
|«e  lylycs  and  \>e  swoote  Roos  | 
f>e  (iayosyes  |  who  tokeJ>e  hede 
Whanne  phcbus  dobe  his  bcmys  spred*' 
Jn  corner  lyke''*  as  men  may  lere^ 
So  glad  am  I  in  thought  and  ded 
Wbenne  )'at  I  seo  mv  ladv  der  j 

f^  In  s<»mer'''^  whanne  ^'"pe  sheene  sunne 
11.1^'?  fihewcd  bright  a  gret  space 
And  towardes  night  [>e  skyes  tlimmc'® 
his  cl«.Tncsse  |  doj^e  away  encliace-'  | 
Bii:;ht  s^o  dodly  and  pale  of  face 
Mortal  of  look  ^^and  eke  o(^  chere 
I  wexe^'^suche  wo  me  did  embrace 
At  party  ng  |  fro**  my  lady  der  | 

^  Sunime  folly  in  signe  of  hardynessc 
TakeJ>c*^  hem  to  colour  J>at  is  red 

2'>  omitted,    ^6  q^^    27  iiem  aught.    28  Reioye)>e  eche  one. 
^  I'oirc.  ^^  Right  so,  '*  wylde.'        **  lusty. 

3  >_ri3  (,Jier  maner.  '*  reine.  '*  I  haue  sevne.  ••  doo. 
^"  hoore  ami  grave.  *8  Reyndere.  ''"^  Right  even  so. 
*^  with-outen.  *'  looke  |  on.  *^  heoB  seles.  *^ omitted, 
*♦  pf'tre.  *^  drede  dare)>er  («'c.)  *•  ttant. 

*"'  fH>lis>ht.  ^'  omitted.  *»  aye  wele.  **  Whilest  it. 
6*  omitted.  ^' gounded(?).  ^^  vospred.  ^  omitUd, 
•^  irele  heere.         *•  ?MS.  semer.  »''  whane  I  seo. 

''^  donn^  or  danne  with  one  stroke  too  many. 
'^  chacc.     «>.«  and  eory.     "  wazat.    «•  ^.     u  i^^. 


And  summe  in  token^*  of  clenncsse 

wcren  why tc  taki  he**  heed 

And  summe  grene  I  for  Inst^mcsse 

But  I  allas<5e  |  in  blak  appere  j  ( Halade  with  Lenvore.) 

And  67alwey  shal  in  sorowe  and'J?  dred  (If.  251  bk.) 

Til«8  I  ses  nexst^^^y  la^jy  ^jere.  | 

^  Now  god  "oj^e  which  art^o  eternal  | 
And  hast  eche  tiling^*  in  gouernancc 
And  art  also  Inmortal 
Stablid  with-oute  varyaunce 
/fortune  and  guyde?'  so  my  chauncc 
Of  by  power  |  moste  enticr 
In  abbregg\-ng  of^s  penaunce 
Sone  to*^*  seo  |  my  ladye  dere  | 

%  Lenuoye,  \ 

^  Go  lytel  bille  in  lowly  wise  | 
Vn-to  mjn  hertcs  souerevne 
And  prey  to  hir  for  to7*  J  dev^ese 
Summ«  relees  |  of  my  mortel  peyne 
And  wher  Jyou  er  rest  not'®  ne  feyne 
Oonly  of  pitee  to''  requerre 
bat  she^s  of  mercy  |  not  disdeyne 
To  be  my  soueraine  lady  dere  | 

%  Devynayle  pzLt  Pycard, 

^  Take  b^  seventeb  |  in  ordro  sette 
Lyned  |  of  be  abc  | 
ffrst  and  last  to  geder  knette  | 
Middes  e  loyned  with  an  G  | 
And  bcr  ye  may  beholde  and  so  | 
Ilooly  to-gidre  al  entiere 
Hir  b^t  is  wher  so  she  be  | 
Myn  owen  sonerayne  lady  dere  | 


**  LITTLE  JOCK  ELLIOT ; 

Oe(,  '  Wha  Daub  Mbddlb  wi'  mb  ?  * 

a  liddesoalr  ballad. 

{From  the  Recital  of  Matthew  GottersonJ)" 

I  have  cut  the  accompanyiDg  from  T/i£  Scotsman 
newspaper  of  April  25.  it  should  be  embalmed 
in  "  N.  &  Q." :  — 

"  [BoTinvELL  was  thoroughly  detested  in  the  western 
larders ;  so  much  so,  that  notwithstanding  his  appoint- 
ment as  *  our  Lieutenant- General  of  the  liorders  *  by  Marj', 
•  he  could  not  even  recover  to  the  Queen *8  allegiance  his 
own  dominions  in  Liddesdalc.'  In  one  of  his  onslaughts 
among  the  mosstroopers  he  had  a  personal  encounter 
with  Little  Jock  Elliot,  otherwise  *  John  Elliot  of  the 
Parke,  ane  desperate  freebooter,'  by  whom  he  was  dan- 
fi^ereusly  wounded.  When  suffering  from  bis  wound  in 
Hermitage  Castle  he  was  visited  by  Mary,  who  rode 
from  Jcdbnrffh  thither  and  back  on  the  same  .day,  a 
distance  of  forty-eight  miles.  *  Whether  she  v  ^sited  a 
wounded  subject  or  a  lover  in  danger  has  been  much 
disputed.'  At  this  period  of  her  reign,  Liddesdale  showed 
no  loyalty,  bat  often  the  reverse,  for  Mary.  Ttie  Sir 
Hary  of  tlie  ballad, '  ane  valiant  knight,*  was  in  many  a 
rough  fend  and  battle.  He  was  brother  to  the  Earl  of 
Northumberland,  and  he  had  the  misfortune,  when  at 
the  head  of  a  thousand  horse,  to  be  rooted  by  Botiiwell 

M  tokenyng.  ^  white  yee  may  take. 

^  ellas.  ^  ever  shal  in  sorowes. 

«  TU  >at.  w  omiUed.               '^-^o  bat  art  bo. 

71  al  thing.  ^f  j>owe  gnjde  lorde. 

^  >owew«e  abrem.  ^*  bhat  I  may. 

^  til.  70  Whane  boa  art  at  hir  |  bou  reite. 

77  hir  to.  78  she  eomu  after  mercy. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*i>8.IX.irATll,"R. 


at  Haltwell  Swdr.  Blary,  doubtless,  bad  tbia  in  remem- 
brance wben  she  sent  ber  famous  apology  for  marrying 
Bothwell  to  the  court  of  France.  Uairi{)ee,  it  may  be 
noted,  was  the  place,  near  Carlisle,  where  criminals  were 
executed.] 

•  My  castle  is  aye  my  ain. 
An'  berried  it  never  sail  be ; 
For  I  maun  fa'  ere  it's  ta'en — 

An'  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 
Wi'  my  kute  i'  the  rib  o'  my  nag. 
My  swurd  hingin*  down  by  my  knc. 
For  man  I'm  never  afraid — 

For  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 

Chorus — Wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 
Wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 
Oh,  my  name  is  Little  Jock  Elliot — 
An'  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 

'  Fierce  Bothwell  I  vanquished  clean, 
Gar'd  troopers  an'  fitmen  flee ; 
B'  my  faith  I  dumfoundert  the  Queen — 

But  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 
Alang  by  the  Dciid- Water  Stank, 
Jock  Fenwick  I  met  on  the  lea  ; 
But  his  saddle  was  toom  in  a  clank— 

An'  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  V 

•  Where  Keeldar  meets  wi'  the  Tyne, 
Mysel'  an'  my  kinsmen  three. 
We  tackled  the  Percys  nine — 

They*\\  never  mair  meddle  wi'  me. 
Sir  Harv,  wi'  nimble  brand, 
He  priclcet  my  cap  ojee ; 
But  I  cloured  his  head  on  the  strand— 

An'  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 

*  The  Cumberland  rievers  ken 
The  straike  my  arm  can  gie. 
An'  warily  pass  the  glen — 

For  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 
I've  chased  the  loons  donn  to  Carlisle, 
Jooket  the  raip  on  the  Hairibee ; 
Where  my  nag  nickert  an'  cocket  his  tail — 

But  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 

'  My  kinsmen  are  true,  an'  brawlie. 
At  glint  o*  an  cneniie. 
Round  Parke's  auld  turrets  they  rally — 

An'  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 
Then,  heigh  for  the  tug  an'  tussle. 
Though  the  cost  be  Jethart  tree ; 
Let  the  Queen  an'  her  troopers  gae  wbnstle — 
Oh,  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 

Chorus — ^Wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 
Wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ? 
Oh,  my  name  is  Little  Jock  Elliot — 
An'  wha  daur  meddle  wi'  me  ?  *  " 

Pk. 


Mb.  Pitt  and  Tactttjs. — In  the  last  Quarterly 

Review^  April  1872,  there  is  an  interesting  article 

on  "The  British  Pariiament,  its  History  and 

Eloquence.*'    At  p.  47.3  we  read  as  follows :  — 

''  Magna  eloqucntia,  sicnt  flamma,  materid.  alitur,  et 
motibus  excitatur,  et  urendo  clarescit." — Taciti  De  Ora- 
tor ibus  DialnguSf  c.  B6, 

This  passage  was  quoted  in  Mr.  Pitt's  presence^ 
and  declared  to  be  untranslatable,  on  which  he 
immediately  replied :  "  No,  I  should  translate  it 
thus — 


<  It  Is  with  eloquence  as  with  a  flame :  it  nqdm 
fuel  to  feed  it,  motion  to  excite  it»  and  it  brigfatena  aa  It 

bums.* " 

The  reviewer  observes  that  Mr.  Pitt  has  ntlm 
paraphrased  than  translated  this  passage.  I  am 
of  the  same  opinion ;  and  as  I  have  heazd  anothor 
version  of  Mr.  Pitt's  translation,  I  offer  it  to  the 
readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  In  the  summer  of  18S4 1 
was  travelling  with  the  late  Earl  Dudley  and  Mi; 
Francis  Hare — men  whose  proficiency  in  ancunft 
learning  was  on  a  par  with  their  knowledge  of 
modem  languages.  It  hapnened  on  one  ooeaaoo 
that  Mr.  Hare  told  us  the  following  aneodotOi  of 
which  I  made  a  note  at  the  time. 

Lord  Grenville  and  Lord  Wellesley,  two  aeoonfc- 
plished  scholars,  were  amusing  themaelvee  with 
quotations  from  the  classics;  whilst  Mr.  Pitkin 
whose  company  they  were,  was  otherwise  en- 

faged.  As  they  were  attempting  to  tnmalata  into 
Inglish  the  description  of  eloquence  above  quoted 
from  Tacitus,  ana  were  intent  upon  it,  Mr.  Fit^ 
seeing  they  were  earnestly  employed,  aaked  wiiat 
they  were  doing ;  and  bemff  told  of  the  diffioiTt 
task  they  had  undertaken,  ne  at  once  gave  tlia 
following  translation:  ''Great  eloquenoe,  like  a 
flame,  is  fed  by  matter  and  fanned  by  motion 
and  brightens  as  it  bums."  G.  S.  J. 

Batb. 

Tobacco  SMOKiira. — ^In  these  days,  when  tke 
tobacco  nuisance  is  getting  on  too  fast^  it  may  do 
good,  and  certainly  no  harm,  to  quote  an  entij  ia 
the  Minutes  of  the  Friends'  monthly  meeting  it 
Penketh,  Lancashire :  — 

"  14tb,  4th  mo.  1691.  It  being  eonsideied  that  ti« 
too  frequent  use  of  smoking  tobacco  ia  ineonaiitant  wtth 
Friends  holy  profession,  it  is  desired  that  sach  aa  hava 
occasion  to  make  use  thereof  take  it  privately,  nrfdur 
too  publickly  in  their  own  hoose,  nor  by  the  high  wajm, 
streets,  nor  in  alehouses,  or  elaewhera^  taadiog  ta  tti 
abetting  the  com*on  excess. 

*'  18th,  8th  mo,  1691.  Friends  not  to  smoke  dartaar 
their  labour  or  occupation,  bat  to  leave  their  work  nl 
take  it  privately'." 

M.IX 

Error  ik  Oxford  Pbateb  Boosk — ^In  all  tba 
copies  of  the  Prayer  Book,  large  and  small,  firon 
the  gorgeous  Cathedral  folio  down  to  the  mnallfllt 
twopenny  edition  printed  at  the  Oxford  fteM  file 
over  200  years  past,  "no  charity"  ia  found  inafeBid 
of  ''not  charity"  in  the  Epistle  for  Qninqya- 
^esima,  from  I  Cor.  xiiL  2,  Hie  Bible  givas^  aa 
in  the  first  and  third  verses^  ''  not  eharitji"  ooi^  . 
rectly,  the  Greek  in  each  verse  being  predaely 
the  same — iydmiv  8i  pi^  4xp»,  "  No"  appeani  hov^ 
ever,  in  the  Bibles  of  1611, 16S^  1000 ;  alio  ia 
Tyndale's  and  Cranmer's  Tranalationa ;  periiapa  k 
some  others,  and  espedaUy  in  the  Seabd  Booh% 
16G2,  of  which  there  are  said  to  be  five  eophi^ 
with  which  the  Act  of  Undfo  wLtj  jreqnind  l^i 
Book  of  Common  Prayer  to  iu  atngt  annnsflaifp. 
The  Oxford  printers  oo 


4»8.1X.  Mat  11, 72; 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


385 


literatim ;  and  from  them  the  error  has  crept  into 
some  London  editions — ^Bagster's,  and  possibly 
some  of  the  older  issues  of  the  Queen's  printers ; 
but  appears  to  have  been  rigorously  excluded  from 
all  those  printed  at  the  Cambridge  University 
Press. 

I  first  noticed  this  variation  in  a  letter  to  7^ 
Bock  (Ist  S.  No.  9,  March  13,  1868),  which  was 
followed  by  several  others,  some  firom  eminent 
Liturgical  authorities ;  and  the  subject,  especially 
of  the  Sealed  Books,  was  afterwards  taken  up  in 
The  Guardian,  Record,  and  other  church  papers. 
One  writer  pointed  out  two  other  errata  also  oc- 
curring in  the  Oxford  editions  only:  one  in  th^ 
Gospel  for  Septuagesima,  where  the  word  penny 
is  rendered  "  peny  "j  the  other  in  tiie  Gospel  for 
the  sixteenth  Sunday  after  Trinity,  where  Nain 
is  rendered  ^'Naim.''  Although  nearly  all  the 
writers  who  kindly  repBed  to  my  letter  four  years 
ago  regarded  '^  no ''  as  an  error,  yet  1  find  in  all 
the  Oxford  Praj^er  Books  the  same  error  still 
continued — a  curious  and  amusing  instance  of  our 
English  pertinacity  in  clinging  to  old  forms  and 
precedents.  Francis  J.  X<SAcnMAN,  M.A. 

Our  Correspondent. — A  wonderful  amount  of 
classical  knowledge  might  be  gathered  from  the 
letters  of  the  foreign  correspondents  of  the  daily 
papers — gentlemen  writing  currente  calamo,  and 
careless  to  verify  their  quotations  or  secure  accu- 
racy in  their  allusions.  A  curious  collection  might 
be  made  in  the  pages  of  "  N.  &  Q."  The  subject 
is  brought  to  my  mind  by  the  Baden  Baden  cor- 
respondent of  the  Daily  Neics  of  April  16, 1872— 
**  as  the  poet  said  of  the  tawny  Tiber, 

** '  Labitur,  ct  labetur  in  omne  volubilis  aevum.* " 

It  does  not  appear  that  the  writer  knew  who 
the  poet  was ;  but,  in  the  first  place,  Horace  was 
alluding  to  a  typical  river,  and  not  to  any  one 
in  particular — certainly  not  to  the  Tiber,  on  the 
bank  of  which  it  was  not  necessary  to  place  his 
ru^ic ;  and,  in  the  second  place,  the-  odd  epithet 
taivni/f  is,  I  suppose,  to  be  traced  to  a  confusion 
between  Jlavusj  which  is  an  Horatian  epithet  for 
the  river,  aadfulvus,  which  is  not 

Some  dozen  years  ago  the  Paris  correspondent 

of  the  Morning  Advertiser  had  a  queer  allusion  to 

the  death  of  a  public  character : — 

"  It  is  now  time  for  us  to  echo  the  dolefal  lament,  Tu 
Marcellus  eris! — M.  Marcellus,  the  diplomatist,  the  author, 
the  friend  of  Chateaubriand  and  Charles  X.,  died  this 
morning." 

About  the  same  time  a  correspondent  of  The 
Standard  gave  a  clear  and  beautiful  version  of  the 
mythic  story  of  Leda;  he  was  writing  of  the 
Polish  exile  at  the  time  when  popular  in  this 
country : — 

**  The  Pole  sang  songs  and  spoke  of  his  unhappy  coun- 
try with  a  voice  so  sadly  sweet,  and  an  eloquence  so 
sweetly  sad,  that  the  ladies  listened  to  him  ynth  swim- 


ming eyes,  as  Leda  woidd  have  Ustemed  to  her 
swans  J^* 

Sbinfield  Grove. 

Appropriate  Death  of  Bibliomaniacs. — ^In 
the  introduction  (hj  the  bibliophile  Jacob)  to  the 
catalogue  of  the  library  of  the  late  Marquis  de 
Morante,  just  diroersed  by  auction  at  Paris,  it  is 
related  that  the  death  of  the  marquis,  one  of  the 


appended : — 

**  On  ponrrait  faire  une  nomenclature  des  bibliophiles 
et  biblioth^aires  aui  sont  morts  en  tombant  dn  hant 
d'une  ^helle,  dans  lenrs  biblioth^ues :  le  p^re  Louis  Jacob 
de  Saint-Charles,  bibl\oth^caire  du  convent  des  Cannes, 
Fr^^ric-Adolphe  Ebert,  directeur  de  la  biblioth^ue  de 
Dresde,  le  savant  hell^iste  Coray,  etc" 

J.  Eliot  HoDexnr. 

West  Derby. 
Fbundlt  HoBnrs. — 

**  Poor  old  Robin  Woods  is  very  ill,  and  he  has  a  tame 
robin  which  sits  on  his  foot  and  hops  up  for  crumte. 
One  day  that  I  went  in  when  th^  were  at  dinner  with  a 
bowl  of  potatoes  between  them,  1  said, '  How  happy  you 
two  look  !  *  *  Yes,  miss,  we  were  that  every  day  since  we 
married.' " — A  Memoir  sf  Maria  EdgeworUi '  (not  pub- 
lished), i.  298. 

This  leads  me  to  ask  could  not  some  of  vour 
readers  furnish  a  striking  illustration  or  two  of  the 
amazing  friendliness  of  little  robin  ?  I  know  the 
case  of  a  wild  one  in  a  garden,  whieh  used  to 
follow  the  owner  about,  and  regularlv  pick  crumbs 
from  his  lips.  A  maid-servant  in  a  rectory  gar- 
den near  me  has  also  found  a  littie  wild  feUow 
from  the  hedge  equally  friendly,  and  he  has  flown 
to  my  lips,  though  a  perfect  stranger,  as  well; 
but  more  remarkable  instances  still  of  the  faith  of 
the  animals  in  man  where  they  are  welcomed  and 
kindly  treated  will  doubtless  be  forthcoming. 

Obnithophiltjs. 

Size  of  Books. — It  is  to  be  regretted  that 
authors  should  publish  their  works  in  different 
sizes,  as  the  habit  impairs  the  uniformity  which 
is  desirable  in  a  set  of  books.  As  a  recent  in- 
stance I  may  mention  the  work  on  London,  by 
Mr.  J.  Heneage  Jesse,  the  pages  of  which  are  about 
half  an  inch  shorter  than  those  of  his  other 
writings,  and  consequently  the  volumes  have  by 
comparison  a  dumpy  appearance.  The  saving  in 
expense  to  the  publisher  must,  I  imagine,  be  very 
trininff,  whereas  the  disfigurement  I  have  referred 
to  is  rar  from  inconsiderable.    Charles  Wylie. 

A  Lady's  ^AJB.—ThePaaMaa Gazette,  in  alate 
''  Occasional  Note,"  threw  out  the  suggestion  that 
Marguerite  Dixblancs  might  possiblj  be  a  man  in 
femide  attire.  In  reference  to  this  idea,  a  cnrioos 
circumstance  is  said  to  have  occurred  seveial 
years  ago  in  an  !&iglidi  country-house.  •For  a 
period  extending  over  some  monus  various  small 


386 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES, 


t4(>h  8.  IX.  Mat  11,  "71 


articles  of  ynlne,  in  the  shape  of  tewehr,  ftc,  had 
from  time   to   time  unoccountaoly  disappeared. 
Su8()icion  attached  to  no  one,   and  in  Roite  of 
every  precaution  these  mysterious  depredations 
were  continued.    Things  at  length  hecame  so  se- 
rious that  it  was  resolved  to  send  for  a  Liondon 
detective,  who,  after  inspecting  the  premises  and 
putting  some  questions,  requested  that  the  ser- 
vants of  the  house  might  oe  assembled  in  the 
dining-room.   This  having  been  done,  he  inquired 
if  all  were  present ;  and  was  told  that  every  one 
was  in  the  room  excepting  the  lady's  maid,  who 
was  in  attendance  on  one  of  the  young  ladies,  an 
invalid.     "  Well,"  he  said,  "  I  should  like  to  see 
the  lady's  maid*' — who  was  accordingly  sum- 
moned.   No  sooner,  however,  had  she  entered 
the  mom  than  the  detective,  with  a  droll  twinkle 
of  his  eye,  exclaimed,  "Ah!  Jim,  is  that  you? 
I've  been  looking  for  you  this  long  while."   Then 
pulling  out  a  pair  of  handcuils,  he  snapped  them 
on  the  supposed  damsel's  wrists,  she  bemg  a  male 
returned  convict,  who,  in  the  capacity  of  Abigail, 
had  lived  for  a  year  with  the  astonished  and 
luckless  family.     *  II.  A.  Kennedy. 

Waterloo  Lodge,  Reading. 

Marriage  op  Cromwell's  Daughter  to  Rich. 

This  occurred  in  Nov.  1057,  and  it  is  recorded  by 

liichard  Svmous  in  his  pocket-book,  preserved  in 

the  Ifari.  MS.,  No.  91)1,  that  — 

"The  Protector  threw  nbnnt  sack  posset  among  all  the 
ladyes  to  sfrvlc  their  rich  clothes,  which  they  tooke  an  a 
favour ;  and  also  wctt  sweetineates ;  and  daul)ed  all  the 
stoolcs  where  they  were  to  sit  with  wett  sweetineates ;  and 
pulled  of  Rich  his  perue^ue,  and  would  have  throwne  it 
into  the  fire,  but  did  not,  yet  he  sate  upon  it." 

These  actions  were  not  probably  usual  at  a 
marriage  festival  of  the  period ;  but  they  are  not 
in  accordance  with  the  gravity  generally  ascribed 
to  CromwelL  W.  P. 

T5tron'8  "Maid  of  Athens."  —  Should  not 
"  N.  &  Q.*'  preserve  a  memorial  that  Theresa  bo- 
camo  Mrs.  Black  by  marrying  an  English  consul ; 
and  that  in  IS7'2  she  was  compelled  to  ask  for 
English  charity  in  her  poverty  and  old  age  ?  Her 
letter,  whicli  appeared  ni  The  Times,*  will  not  be 
forgotten  by  those  who  read  it.  Cyril. 

"  J>ntLioTiikarE  universelle  et  Hevue 
SUISSE  "  (London :  IJarthos  and  Lowell.) — Long 
before  the  lirvuc  dcfi  deux  Mondci*  had  been  started, 
the  Ihhiiothhquc  iDn'rcrAcUo.  was  known  as  the  best 
periodical  of  a  pundy  litc^rary  kind  written  in  the 
French  language.  Originally  published  at  Geneva, 
it  numbered  amon;:st  its  contributors  men  of 
acknowledged  reputation,  and  its  articles  were 
repeatedly  quote<l  as  authorities  in  matters  of 
taate  and  sound  criticism.  But  the  well-known 
motto,  Hubent  sua  fata  Uhellin  applies  with  par- 


[•  Of  March 'in,  1872.] 


tieular  force  tojoumals  and  zeviewB ;  and^  if  even 
old  Sylvanus  Urban  had  to  modify  ooondenblj 
his  ori^^nal  appearance,  it  was  scarcely  possible 
that  the  Bibliothique  umver^eUs  could  resist  the 
law  of  change.  Trsnafenred  from  GeneyA  to  Lau- 
sanne^ it  contracted  a  close  alliance  with  the 
Bevue  smsse;  thus  adding  to  the  9olid  q^uaUties 
which  distinguished  the  BibUaUil^mie^  the  unagiB- 
ative  elements  (poetry^  tales,  and  novelettes)  for 
which  the  Revue  was  so  remarkable.  The  first 
three  numbSers  of  oar  Helvetian  journal  for  the 
present  year  are  now  before  us,  and  we  cannot 
but  heartily  congratulate  the  editon  on  the  bill 
of  fare  which  they  have  given  to  our  readera  In 
addition  to  essays,  works  of  fiction,  and  political 
articles,  each  Iwraisan  contains  a  carefully  pre- 
pared notice  of  new  books,  and  a  budget  of  gosap 
trom  France,  Italy,  and  Germany.  G.  M. 


^unM* 


AN  AUTHENTIC  D0CUME2rr. 

I  send  the  following ''  true  copy  "  in  the  hope  that 
some  of  ^our  correspondents  may  be  able  to  tell 
me  how  it  originatea,' where  ''  mmday  Ivie  "  ifl^ 
and  when  it  was  composed.  l?^th  regard  to  flie 
latter  particular,  it  will  be  seen  that  the  MS. 
states  that  the  letter  ''  is  written  and  engnmn 
in  the  year  1G13,"  so  that  the  actual  day  on  whidi 
'^  Blessed  is  he  that  tumeth  up  this  Stone  **  was 
written  may  have  preceded  thu  date  bj  aiztesa 
centuries  or  so. 

It  was  found  among  the  papers  of  the  kte 
Dean  Koutledge  of  Gla^w,  who  was  a  Cumber- 
land man.  It  is  not^  however,  in  his  handwrit^ 
ing.  W.  G.  D. 


u 


A  True  Copy  of  a  Letter  by  Chmts  own  Hand,  as  it ' 
Written  laid  and  found  under  a  Stone  in  a  Little  Vil- 
lage called  Mamby  near  to  a  Town  called  Hondsr 
lA-ie. 


*'  This  Letter  by  the  Comandment  of  our  Lord 
Christf  was  fouod  under  a  Stone  Spacioiia  aad  Loqg*  it 
was  at  the  Foot  of  a  Croes  Five  LeafiMi  or  16  Miks  froa 
the  Town  Ilnnday  Ivie ;  in  a  Little  Village  caltod  Ms- 
riuby  whereupon  was  Seen  in  a  Morning  written  aad 
Engraven  these  Words,  (Blessed  is  he  tlut  tnrneth  vp 
this  StoneO  The  people  that  did  see  tliie  Stone  did  En- 
deavour tnemsplves  to  turn  ap  this  Slime  hm  tlirir 
Labour  was  in  Vain,  so  that  tbev  could  not  prevail,  tlMgr 
then  prayed  and  beseochcd  Almighty  God  that  thef 
Might  Understand  what  the  Meaning  of  the  wrltinffjm 
which  was  there  written,  and  there  Game  a  LittleCliflii 
of  Six  or  Seven  Years  Old  which  Tamed  up  the  Saaw 
Stone  without  any  help,  to  tlie  great  admiration  of  the 
beholders  there,  and  when  it  was  Tniii*d  over  then  vii 
found  under  it,  written  the  Comandments  of  Our  Lsri 
.Jesus  Christ,  by  his  own  band  in  Golden  Ijetten  (which 
Letters)  was  Carried  to  the  Town  of  Huadaj  Ivie  te  bt 
read,  which  Town  belon(i:s  to  the  Lady  HooMlog*  M«n- 
dorosell,  and  there  was  Written  the  rnminrtnwati  of  Mr 
Lord  Jesus  Christ,  Sent  by  the  AigdlOataU  «  Mil 
Written  and  Engraven  there  In  Uw  Taarof  Oml^mk 
God  161S,  which  is  as  FoUovk^Tob  lUI  mof  mmM 


4»k  S.  IX  Mat  U,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


'387 


another,  they   that  work  on  the  Sabath  Day  shall  be 
Excommunicated  of  me  Christ  Jesus,  I  do  comand  that 
You  Go  to  Church  and  keep  the  Sabath  day  holy.    You 
shall  not  Combe  your  head  nor  wash,  nor  do  any  kind  of 
Labour  as  that  Day  but  Humbly  desire  of  me  to  forgive 
you  your  Sins.  My  comandment  is  You  shall  leave  work- 
ing on  Saterday  at  5  OClock  in  the  P2vening,  and  so  con- 
tinue till  Monday  Morning.     I  will  that  yon  fast  five 
Fridays  in  the  Year  for  the  Five  woands  I  received  for 
You.    You  shall  take  Neither  Money  or  Gold  unjustly 
nor  Scorn    my  Comandments.     You   shall  Love  with 
Brotherly  Love  and  true  Hearts,  Also  You  shall  cause  all 
them  that  are  Unbaptized  to  come  to  the  church  and 
receive  it,  And  in  so  doing  I  will  Love  yon  and  give  you 
manifold  gifts  and  long  Life  all  your  Cattle  and  your 
I.And  shall  increase  and  replenisirFruitfully  And  bring 
forth  Abundantlv,  and  all  blcsksings  shall  come  Upon  You. 
And  I  will  Com/ort  You,  But  they  that  do  contrary  shall 
be  cursed  of  me  hunger  and  famine  will  I  send  npon  them 
that  bear  witness  against  this  Writing,  and  belives  not 
that  this  is  written  with  my  own  hand  and  Spoken  with 
my  Mouth.    And  they  that  have  wherewithal  to  do  Give 
Alms  to  the  Poor,  and  they  that  will  not  in  my  Name 
shall  be  cursed  of  me  in  the  confntion  of  Hell  Fire.    Re- 
member to  keep  Holy  the  Sabath  Day  without  Delay. 
Thereof  know  that  I  have  given  You  Six  Days  to  La- 
bour on  the  Seventh  Day  I  myself  have  rested.    And  the 
Man  that  writes  a  Copv  of  this  Letter,  and  keeps  it  with- 
out publishing  shall  be  accursed  of  me,  Contrarj-wise 
whosoever  shall  write  a  Copy  of  this  Letter  and  cause  it  to 
be  read  and  published  shall  be  Blesed  of  me,  And  if  he  have 
as  many  Sins  as  there  is  Stars  fixed  in  the  Skies  his  Sins 
shall  be  forgiven  him  if  he  be  heartily  Sory  and  repent 
him  of  the  Same  asking  forgiveness  for  the'Same  of  me. 
Again,  if  you  do  not  keep  these  things  but  do  against  my 
Comnndnients,  1  will  send  You  worms  that  shiul  destroy 
vou.  Your  Children,  cattle  and  Goods,  and  whatsoever 
You  have.    Moreover  if  any  will  write  a  Copy  of  this 
Letter  and  keep  it  in  his  House  no  Evil  Spirit  shall  vex 
him,  also  if  any  woman  be  great  with  Child  &  Labour, 
if  she  have  a  Copy  of  this  Letter  about  her,  she  shall  be 
safely  delivered  of  her  burthen  and  no  evil  thing  shall 
annoy  her.  And  You  shall  hear  no  more  of  me  Untill  the 
Day  of  Judgement.    All  Gladness  shall  come  into  the 
House  where  the  Copy  of  this  letter  shall  be  written,  in 
the  name  of  Jesus  Christ. — Amen." 


NICHOLAS  DE  MEAUX. 

The  Chronicle  of  Man  records  that  Michael, 
Bishop  of  Man,  died  in  1 103,  and  was  succeeded  by 
Nicholas.  As  this  date  is  t lie  same  as  the  preced- 
ing entry,  and  is  followed  by  an  entiy  dated  1204, 
Professor  Munch  supposes  that  the  death  of 
Micliael  took  plnce  in  1203,  and  with  this  Le 
Neve  seems  to  c«)incide.  Keith  and  Munch,  with 
the  northern  annals,  set  down  his  consecration  in 
1210 ;  but  if  so,  he  can  have  been  Abbot  of  Fur- 
ness,  for  the  Chronica  Monasterii  de  Melm,  edited 
by  Mr.  Bond  under  the  jNIaster  of  the  Rolls,  says 
that  he  was  elected  Abbot  of  Fumess,  and  made 
Bishop  of  Man  when  Hugh  was  abbot.  Now 
Huffh  was  abbot  from  1210  to  1220;  so  that  if 
Nicholas  was  consecrated  in  the  former  year,  he 
can  have  been  Abbot  of  Fumess  but  for  a  Tory 
short  time.  Unfortunately  neither  the  chartulary 
of  Fumess  in  the  British  Museum,  nor  the  cata- 
logue of  Stell,  gives  the  date  of  his  appointment : 


possibly  it  might  be  ascertained  from  the  more 
perfect  register  of  Fumess  in  the  palace  of  Hamil- 
ton {First  Heport  of  Royal  Commission  on  SiS' 
torical  MSS,,  p.  114)  if  any  northem  antiquary 
would  be  at  the  pains  to  refer  to  it  The  Okro^ 
nide  adds,  that  Nicholas  died  in  1217,  but  there 
is  evidence  to  show  that  he  was  living  in  1227. 
May  not  the  entry  1217  be  an  error  for  1227  ? 
If  the  letter  to  the  dean  and  chapter  of  York  of 
Olave  (Ang,  Monas.  of  Dugdale,  id.  145,  edition 
1G73)  refers  to  Nicholas  of  Meaux,  it  most  have 
been  written  by  Olave  II.,  and  not  Olave  I.  aa 
Munch  supposes.  In  fact,  no  other  Nicholas  is 
mentioned  in  the  list  of  Manx  bishops.  The  pas- 
sage in  the  Chronicle^  which  records  the  deatk  of 
Nicholas  in  1217,  is  said  to  mean  that  his  resig- 
nation took  place  in  that  year.  The  words  are : 
'^  Olnit  Nicolaus  episoopus  insularum,  et  sepoltos 
est  in  Ultonia  in  domo  de  Benchor.'' 

The  difficult  chronology  of  this  episcopate  is 
rendered  still  more  perplexing  by  a  letter  pub- 
lished by  Dr.  Oliver  (Manx  Society,  viL  88), 
taken  from  Box  A,  No.  94,  in  the  Duchy  Office, 
in  which  Nicholas  the  bishop  acknowledges  that 
he  has  received  from  Nicholas  the  abbot  tae  pon- 
tifical books  and  vestments  belonging  to  the  bishop 
of  the  isles  on  his  retum  from  the  general  coundL 
This  will  be  the  fourth  Lateran,  and  the  twelfth 
general  council  held  in  1215.  The  conclusion 
from  this  letter  would  be,  that  Nicholas  the  abbot 
and  Nicholas  the  bishop  were  different  indivi- 
duals ;  but  then  we  have  the  positive  assertion  of 
the  chronicler  of  Meaux,  himself  an  abbot  of  that 
monastery,  that  the  Abbot  of  Fumess  and  the 
Bishop  of  Man  were  the  Nicholas  of  Meaux  who 
had  been  raised  to  those  dignities  during  the 
abbacy  of  Hugh,  as  above  stated.  I  have  failed 
to  find  these  difficulties  elucidated  cither  in 
Munch  or  Stubbe,  and  shall  be  obliged  for  any 
help  in  this  matter.  A.  E.  L. 


Asms  of  Llakdaff. — What  are  the  arms  of  the 
see  of  LlandafF?  To  justify  what  is  apparently  so 
simple  a  question,  I  must  state  the  discrepancies 
in  the  most  obvious  and  accessible  sources  of  in- 
formation^   Bobson's  British  Herald  g^ves— 

"  Sable»  two  qroeiers  endorsed  in  ssltier,  the  dexter  or 
the  sinister  argent  (the  crooks  of  the  second,  the  staff  of 
the  third)  on  a  chief  azore^  three  mitres  with  labels  of  the 
second." 

I  cannot  reconcile  the'  words  which  I  have 
italicised  in  a  parenthesis,  which  are  the  distinction 
made  by  Kobson  between  the  arms  of  the  see  and 
those  of  the  priory^  with  the  previous  description 
of  the  crosiers.  Other  blazons  of  the  arms,  so  far 
as  relates  to  the  crosiers  (or  rather  pastoval 
staves),  are  as  follows : — Edmondson,  ''two  crosiers 
endorsed  in  saltire,  the  crooks  or,  the  staff  argent." 
Berzyi  '^two  crosiers  endorsed  in  saltire,  the  dex- 


388 


AND 


[4i»  8.  IX  Mat  11,  Tl. 


ter  or,  the  sinister  argenf     Heylin's  Help  to 
Engluh  History  and  !&utell*8  Heraldry  merely 

g've  them  as  "in  saltire  or  and  argent";  De- 
ett's  Peerage  gives  both  "  or  " ;  Burke's  Peerage 
does  not  give  a  verbal  blazon  of  bishops'  arms, 
but  the  mate  shows  both  or,  the  sinister  sur- 
mounted by  the  dexter,  and  the  same  position  is 
shown  in  the  figures  in  Debrett  and  Heylin ;  while 
a  handsome  illuminated  plate  of  the  arms  of  the 
bishops,  executed  under  the  direction  of  Mr.  Gil- 
bert French,  represents  the  dexter  argent,  sur- 
mounted by  the  sinister  or.  The  questions  are : 
Which  is  surmounted  by  the  other  P  Are  the  crooks 
and  staves  of  diiforent  metals  counterchan^d, 
which  may  possibly  be  intended,  though  certainly 
not  expressed  by  the  blazon  in  Hobson's  HeraltL 
or  is  each  of  a  smgle  metal  ?  and  which  is  or  and 
which  is  argent  ?  Observe  that  both  Edmondson 
and  Robson  speak  of  the  crooks  in  the  plural, 
and  the  stall  in  the  singular.  J.  F.  M. 

The  "Cur6  op  Pontoise."  —  We  frequently 
find  in  continental  auberges  and  caf^s  an  engrav- 
ing so  entitled.  It  represents  the  cur6  in  the 
pmpit  about  to  throw  his  cap  at  a  faithless  wife, 
and  a  host  of  women  are  rushing  to  the  doors. 
The  legend  pays  that  the  curt5  of  rontoise  having 
threatened  to  throw  his  cap  at  a  woman  who  was 
regardless  of  her  marriage  vows,  all  the  women 

E resent  were  sfized  with  fear,  and  rushed  in  a 
ody  from  the  church.    Where  is  Poutuise,*  and 
what  is  the  origin  of  this  popular  story  ?  N. 

Fly-leaf  Scrihuling. — 

**  Qiii  plus  expcndit, 
(juain  rerum  cupia  tcndit, 
2s'on  admiretur 
Si  panpertate  gravetar." 

This  admirable  maxim  is  written  on  a  fly^-leaf 
of  one  of  the  old  register  books  of  wills  m  the 
Bishop's  Court,  Norwich.  Where  is  it  taken 
from?  a.  A.  U. 

East  Dereham. 

Frontispikce  to  an  Old  Work. — I  should  be 
obliged  if  any  one  could  tell  me  to  what  work  the 
frontispiece  I  enclose  belongs.  I  liave  the  copper- 
plate itself.  The  costumes  seem  to  indicate  the 
earlier  Stuart  period.  The  middle  of  the  plate 
contains  the  portrait  of  a  gentleman,  with  a  cur- 
tain on  his  right,  and  some  books  and  a  skull  on 
the  other  side.  Above  are  two  small  portraits  in 
square  compartments,  with  dogs  introduced :  and 
below  are  two  others :  both  dog  and  man  in  the 
last  are  vomiting.  Latin  texts  on  scrolls  are  in- 
troduced ;  but  the  reference  in  one  case  to  Psalm 
zxvi.  C,  should  be  Psalm  xxvii.  G.  P.  P. 

German  Song  wanted. — I  am  reminded  by  the 

JvtuTD  of  spring  of  a  sprightly  song,  set  to  very 

li'reJjr  music,  which  I  met  with  long  ago.    Untoi^ 

/"•  In  France,  nineteen  miles  north-west  of  Paris.'^ 


tunately  I  never  had  more  thm  the  first  renb,  as 
follows  :— 

"  Der  Frtthling  ist  gekommen, 
Es  schallt  der  Hahi  von  Geskiigen, 
Der  FrUhling  ist  gekomnMn, 
£8  singt  die  NachtigaU." 

Of  which  the  following  may  be  a  free  translatioiiy 
or  rather  imitation : — 

**  The  birds  are  merrilv  singing. 
The  foyoDS  springtide  bringing ; 
The  birds  are  merrpy  Binding, 
How  sweet  the  nightingale  I " 

I  should  be  thankful  if  any  lover  of  German 
songs  would  supply  the  remainder.         F.  C.  H. 

The  German  Suffbrebs  in  the  Wars  of 
1813-15.  — In  «  N.  &  Q.,"  4«'»  S.  iv.  110-1,  is 
noticed  Mr.  Ackermann*s  strenuous  exertions  in 
their  cause.  Can  any  of  your  readers  refer  me  to 
a  collection  of  the  "  Keports ''  issued  by  llie  com- 
mittees ;  to  any  statement  of  the  distribution  of 
the  sum  of  over  200,000/.,  or  to  any  work  pub- 
lished about  it  ?  The  Ackermann  family,  strange 
to  say,  do  not  possess  any  such  documents.  The 
Archoishop  of  Canterbury,  who  took  a  very  pro- 
minent interest  in  the  affair  (Manners  Sutton), 
died  in  1828 ;  he  is  said  to  have  had  a  complete 
cony  of  the  documents  placed  in  his  chaige :  are 
these  accessible  ?  It  is  presumed  that  the  original 
receipts  for  the  parliamentary  grant  of  100,000/. 
may  have  been  taken  charge  of  by  government 
auditors :  are  these  accessible  ?  W.  P. 

''The  LadiImS'  Monthly  Museum'' was  com- 
menced in  or  about  1798.  When  was  it  discon- 
tinued, and  by  whom  was  it  edited  P 

H.  Inglis. 

I^ATiN  Bible,  1402.  — I  shall  be  obliged  for  some 
information  respecting  a  Bible  in  my  possession. 
It  is  a  small  quarto— Latin  of  course,  black-letter, 
with  a  space  left  at  the  commencement  of  each 
chapter'  for  the  penman  to  fill  up  with  the  initial 
letter.  I  have  looked  over  Timperley's  and  John- 
son's Histories  of  Printing,  but  can  iind  no  account 
of  this  Bible.  The  following  is  printed  at  the 
end  of  the  New  Testament : — 

"  ImpreRsi  vero  in  felici  Venetorum  civitate.  Sampti- 
bas :  Arte  H ieronymi de  Paganenis  Bariensis.  Anno  Oratii 
Millesimo  quAdringentesimo,  nonagesimo  secondo  septimo 
Idus  Septcmbrid." 

IllCHARD  BbOOX. 
Elm  Villas,  Ilamilton  Road,  Lower  Norwood. 

[This  Bible,  containing  the  emendations  of  Peter  An- 
gelus  de  monte  Ulmi,  is  noticed  bv  Panzer,  Annates  Typtk- 
praphici,  iii.  326  ;  and  the  editions  of  1496,  1497,  in  the 
Biblhtheca  SusiexianOf  bv  J.  Pettigrew,  vol.  i.  part  IL 
pp.  349, 350.  Consult  also  the  Bodleitin  Catalogue  i.  255.] 

Lines  on  the  MoNTHS.~The  stormy  and  fitful 
weather  of  this  month,  so  inclement  for  delicate 
'women.  «jid  InTalids  of  the  other  sex,  has  brought 
\)acV  V>  m^  tcoltA  ^^isoi^  ^»uKai\.  xV^^^m,     Tnej 


^S.1X.Hm]1,'7!0 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


mine,  who  if  he  were  anw  alive  would  be  nefiil; 
ft  hundred  years  old.  Though  a  jovial  sportiiiK 
squire  of  the  Georgian  era,  ia  a  high  cravat  snd 
three  or  four  waistcoats,  he  could  not  Aetj  the 
spring  winds.  Here  are  the  lines :  — 
-Ob,  March  1  March  t 

April  will  try. 

Msy  will  nj 

Ifwelivootdie." 
The  old  gentleman  thought  there  might  havt 
been  other  verses  runniiiK  tlirough  the  calendar, 
hut  thej  did  not  concern  him,  he  said.  I  shall  be 
glad  if  Bome  of  your  correspondents  who  are  versed 
m  this  branch  of  folic-lore  will  kindlj  throw 
light  upon  the  origin  and  date  of  the  ihjmes,  and 
add  the  Temainiog  stanzae.  O.  S. 

The  Chace,  Uere^rdahire. 

LxTBBY,  NBiB  Sfilsbt. — Od  ft  stone  in  the  floor 
of  the  church,  near  the  pulpit,  is  a  brass  with  the 
following  inscription :  — 

"  Mv  tltahe  in  hop«  doth  rest  and  ilepe, 
In  eartb  hen  to  reniarne ; 
Mv  spirit  to  Chiiit  I  gyve  to  kepts 
'Till  I  do  TVK  agayne. 
"  And  1  wytb  Ton  in  bope  affree, 
Thoughcl'yetbereabyde; 
In  full  purpose  if  tiodiles  will  be. 
To  ly  downe  by  your  syde." 
The  letters  on  the  margin  of  the  stone  are 
mostly  obliterated.    The  date,  almost  illegible, 
is  1555.    The  church  is  a  plain  old  structure, 
without  pretensions  to  style  in  architecture,  with 
the  eiception  of  a  small  Norman  doorway  in  the 
north-west.    There  are  no  monuments  or  grave- 
stones about  the  place,  except  of  a  comparatively 
modem  date.     Can  any  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  say 
what  family  resided  at  Lusby  about  1650,  whose 
this  grave,  or  information  on  the  matter? 

Manr  OFTnEWAR-rioESK, — Ihave  a  brassequea- 
trian  liguie  of  a  kiiig-ht  in  the  military  costume 
of  the  twelfth  nr  enrly  thirteenth  century.  The 
lower  half  of  the  neck  of  the  horse  is  shorn  of  its 
mane,  and  I  find  the  same  peculiarity  in  a  repre- 
sentation )nven  by  Worsaae.  No  doubt  it  was  a 
Crision  to  obviate  the  eotanglemant  of  the  bridle- 
d  in  the  hair  of  the  mane.  Are  there  other 
known  instances  or  allusions  to  the  custom  P 

M.D. 

Medi.hval  grotesque  Scttlptubes  ahd  SToit- 
8TEB.S. — Have  any  attempts  been  made — attempts 
that  have  led  to  satisfactory  results — lo  classify 
the  RTOtesqno  figures  and  monsters  which  the 
mediioval  sculptors  and  carvers  delighted  to  in- 
troduce into  their  works,  with  a  view  to  inveati- 
gate  the  motives  that  may  have  influenced  those 
artiats  in  the  adoption  of  certain  forms  and  com- 
binations and  distortions  of  forms  ?  Among  these 
figures  may  be  classed  the  Sagittuy,  nude  and 


female,  the  Mermen  and  Uermud,  the  I 
the  Cockatrice,  and  Dragons  of  e< 
modification  of  dragouisn  ugliness,  all  of  the  mevi- 
dently  prime  favourites,  and  occurring  constantly 
in  miseiere-carvings,  and  in  capitals,  bosses,  cor- 
bels, Sk.  Chablgs  Boutsll. 

Othxllo.— Id  Act  III.  Sc  4,  Othello  says— 
"  that  handkerchief  did  an  Egyptian  to  mu  mathar 
give  ";  but  in  Act  V.  Sc  S, "  it  was  a  handkerchief, 
an  antique  token  my  father  gave  my  mother."  Has 
any  commentator  ever  noticed  the  inconsistency 
denoted  by  the  words  italicised  P  G.  A.  B, 

[Id  the  Jobnaon,  Stecvens,  and  Reed  edition  of  Sfaake- 
■pere's  pUyi  appeara  the  following  note  in  Act  V.  Be  2 
of  OUitllB :—"  This  laM  puuge  hai  bem  ceaeaied  as  an 
DTeisight  in  the  poet;  bat  perhaps  it  ezbibita  only  a 
fresh  proof  of  his  art.  The  first  accoant  of  the  bandker- 
ebief,  u  Eiven  bv  OUiello,  wia  purpowly  oiteDtatloui,  in 
order  to  2aim  hia  irife  tbe  mor<.  When  be  mentiona  It 
a  second  time,  the  tmth  was  anffldeat  (br  his  purpoM."] 

PiBBSHILL     BaSBACES,     EDUIBTmOB. Ib     it 

known  after  whom,  or  for  what  other  n&acat, 
these  cavalry  barracks  received  tbe  name  of 
"Piersbiir'P  Was  there  anv  officer — say  of 
Crorawell's  army  or  of  any  subsequent  period — 
that  gave  rise  to  the  name  P  Piera  is  not  a  Scottish, 
but  rather  an  Irish,  and  more  recently  an  English 
name.  There  is  no  topooraphicol  reason  for  the 
name  being  given  to  the  bank,  facing  the  north 
and  overlooking  a  meadow  near  the  Frith  of 
Forth,  on  which  I^ershill  bamickB  stand.* 

M.D. 
Peoof  and  Pattemt  Coikaob. — From  what 
source,  excepting  through  dealers,  may  such  be 
obtained  P  Humphreys,  in  his  works,  names  the 
Itoyal  Uint.  Is  such  the  case,  and  to  whom  must 
application  be  madeP  NuMisiuioLOaisT. 

[Wc  can  coafidently  atale  that  the  autboritiea  of  the 
Royal  Mint  have  now  for  many  years  refused  tO  allow 
any  mors  purchsHB  of  Proof  and  Psttera  Coinage.] 

QrOTATIOS  WANTEIi.— 

"Tbediitieiof  his  day  were  all  dischnrired.  Calm  aa 
evening  skiea  waa  hia  pnre  mind,  and  lighted  up  with 
tiopeslbat  open  heaven,  when  for  his  last  long  sleep  timely 
prepared — a  lassitude  of  life,  a  pleasing  weariness  M 
mortal  jovs  stole  on,  and  down  he  sunk  to  rest." 

Thtjb. 
"TmRBamNTALDBtni,"  —  Can  any  cone- 
mondent  refer  me  to  the  volume  of  Blaekwoodt 
Mogadne  in  which  this  humorous  stoiy  appeared  F 
H.D. 
SuBiTAHEa. — Can  any  one  give  me  the  deriva- 
tions of  the  surnames  of  "  Allen  "  and  "  Pounder"  P 
Crables  Allbk. 
Pape  Terrace,  Boondbay  Boad,  Loeds. 
Tom  Stddall's  Dbclabatios.— Tom  Syddall 
was  one  of  the  Manchester  rebels  executed  in' 


390 


NOTES  AJTO  QUEEIES. 


C«kB.rz.ii*TU,?t. 


1746  after  tbe  taking  of  Cariisle  by-  the  troops 
under  the  Duke  of  CnmberlAnd.     The  late  John 
Ilarland  ha.t  a  notice  of  him  in  his  CiMecbaua  re- 
lating to  Manchester  Mid  the  neig-hbourhood,  and 
on  p.  317,  vol.  i.,  he  inys  he  has  inquired  in  vun 
for  a  copy  of  a  song  made  on  this  occnuon,  and 
put  into  the  mouth  of  SjddalL     It  begins  thua — 
"  Mr  name  ia  Tom  S;dddl.  b  baiber, 
\a  Mauchoter  I  am  well  knoirn  ; 
Anil  now  1  am  t^inc  to  suffer 
For  fightiog  for  King  Charlie'i  own." 
Con  anv  reader  of  "N.  Sc  Q."  aupplj  the  mias- 
ing  verses"?  T.  T.  W. 

Windlass  :  Compass.— Can  any  one  eipliun 
the  singular  phrase  "fetch  a  windlass"^" fetch 
a  composo,"  t.  e.  to  turn  round,  make  a  circuitoua 
route  or  digreaNon  f  1  have  met  with  it  thrice : 
once  in  Laneham's  Letter  — 

"  Dut,  Mnatcr  Muitin,  yet  one  uyiul/cue  most  I  fwtch, 
too  make  yc  one  more  Tayr  coorz,  and  1  can."  (p.  S3, 
ed.  FurnivalL)    "And  heer  iz  my  iniuauH,  like  your 
coono  aa  pleai  ye"  (ji.  S5, 1'A.)  — 
•fid  twice  in  (iolding'a  Workt,  aa  follows — 

**  Xow  MoKS  saf'th  expnnly  that,  after  the  people 
had  retched  n  ariniilaat.  nnd  trayled  about  the  mountain 
Seir,  thev  ramp  to  the  nutlh  aido,"  fcc  (Golding's  CW- 
ma't  SrrmuK,.  ItenMronomie  jL  p.  61.  2  b,  1683)  — 
and  from  (4olding'e  Crcmr,  foL  200  — 
"  biiidin:;  thprn  fvtch  a  irindlaat  a  great  way  about,  and 
to  Ri.ike  ol  toward  oue  place." 

The  plirnsi!,  "fetch  a  compass,"  occurs  at  an 
earlier  date,  vii.  in  CoTerdale's  Bible,  Joshua 
lis.  14:  — 


on  the  Qortb  siiie  tu  Hannatbon." — A.  Y. 

Why,  then,  ehould  it  have  been  altered  to 
"fetch  a  windlass"?  Are  atiy  other  inatancea  of 
it  known  ?  G.  WlIEELWBIQHT. 

Crowhurat,  East  Grinstead. 


JttplitS. 
STAINED-GLASR  WIN'DOWS  AT  ALTESBEEG. 
(-!"■  H.  viii.  ]4f>,'144.) 
The  ablji^y  of  Albcrtus  nt  AKenbcrg  also  pos- 
sessed nonut  very  line  glass  beliovcd  to  be  the 
work  of  Albert  liiircr.  I  vliould  like  to  repeat 
a  note  ^ven  in  "X.  &  Q."  (2"'  H.  x.  SfiO)  reepoct- 
ing  it.  All  ostract  is  tliore  given  from  the  l)iart/ 
of  E.  Spi'nccr  Cutlinfr,  t^q.  (who  had  nn  ofliciil 
appoiDtment  on  the  Contini-nt  fmni  1827  tu  1837), 
and,  as  this  is  very  interc»itiu|.',  I  transcribe  it : — 

"Tho  i^ilcndiil  sla'W  hBre  ilescribnl  wm  in  18i7  Iho 
property  of  M.  le  Chaniiino  Linden  of  Ciilottne,  and 
minutely  CTiamined  then  whibt  in  thn  crypt  of  one  of  the 
chnrchoi.  and  during  the  lime  of  nervice  wheoand  where 


glaiier,  near  Um  ealhadral,  of  whoa  it  wi 
John  Cnrlinfc  otOfflty  Moles,  naar  Hitdban,'liit«d*d  Bit 
Uu  chnrch  there,  tbi  about  1501.  (hi  aqnan  ftat  abost  MO), 
was  to  have  besi  takea  at  prima  eost,  and  dotf  1^  ait 
scriplion.  Owing,  however,  to  fnflneatial  QuakBi  of  tm 
place  objecting  to  piipirinubj«e<»bdngintrod»eadlifca 
Christian  church,  the  aubacriptioD  oiiiMd, and  tba^lM 
returned  to  London,  where  U  «aa  azhttdted  at  tha  Eorp- 
tiin  Hall  and  Charing  CroM,  and  aasB  by  mai^y  Dmw- 
men,  artist^  and  antiquariea,  wO  of  wbom  gan  tla 
Btroageit  opinion  of  its  beauty  and  lari^,  ml  of  Hi  , 
being  a  gmant  mrl  ofAltirt  lUinr;  yrt  no  poxniB 
came  fbrward,  and  after  ramainiag  fcr  wrrral  nan  a 
the  packages  it  came  in,  the  glaa  wis  aold  only  &r  wte 
it  cost  to  a  dialer  at  Sbrewibaiy  or  Ixicester  (or  Ulk- 
fii'ld).  There  is  no  questinn  it  would  now  be  worth  tf 
least  lODOf.,  because  none  whatsver  can  be  proeandN 
the  Continent  of  simllai  antii^ul^  and  beaah-.  At- 
most  every  frame  had  le^ods  in  Latin  ia  tb«  fiirtwt 
and  the  dssifpi,  drawing,  and  ealoan  wen  of  tk*  BOtf 
original  and  Hplcndld  chaiacter,  which  ii  not  ovenatidia 
the  printed  extracts  ;  and  it  woald  ham  liaRi  bgatthtfet 
81.  Uflorge's  (new)  church  at  Ramngata  bnt  tb*  flpM 
and  sulijects  were  too  wide  and  large  (ht  tha  bdIUmh  rf 
the  east  window  to  admit  without  cnttinc  ttaaoa, — E.S.Ct 
Deal,  1848." 

I  am  happy  to  be  able  to  repW  to  the  ii^eitioB. 
Mr.  II.  F.  Holt,  in  a  paper  on  "  Albert  Diiia,  a 
Painter  on  Glaae,"  read  before  the  Britiidi  Atdii^ 
ological  Association,  aaya  theae  treamma  fill  fwo 
windows  in  St  Mair's,  ShiewsbtD^,  and  woe 
pUced  thers  circa  1840.    The  glaaa  ia  deocribed  « 

being-  in  good  Condition,      In  " 

with  Diirer,  Hr.  Holtuye: — 

"The  abbey  of  AltaibRg;  w1  

glass  cam<>,  is  situate  at  a  abort  distaaoe  ban  Oa  d^  ■ 
Gologne,  and  was  for  many  yaan  cdabntad  fltr  tti  piMid 
windows  of  the  sixteeotb  ocntofy,  aMigned  1^  tnWM 
to  Durcr,  and  whidi  windows  ware  only  ramorad  teta| 
the  wara  conseflnect  npon  the  Franch  tsrohdlaa.  Iitt> 
ofthed,— — "  — • -^ 


itbeantniy.GaaiSBflAH* 

Frryherr  von  Limburg  was  «Mhnoed  Uabcp  ef  li*- 
faorg.  io  which  position  ba  took  pnoadmcaoTevaqriAK 
bishop  in  tho  German  empire.  As  is  wall  kDoin,ttl 
biahop  was  a  great  protector  oT  tha  arts,  and  an  tapM 
patron  and  warm  petaonal  friepd  of  DDrar,  M  wkM 
he  sat  for  his  portrait.  Bearing  tboa  Ikcta  ta  i '  ' 
what  conclusion  seems  mora  natural  a 

that  the  bishop  should  have  recommeni    .. 

coadjutor,  the  Archbishop  of  Cologne  (under  w 
mediate  control  the  ahbey  of  Altenbos  thM  irm\  It 
commission  DUrer  to  paint  the  windows  in  ijnaalloB  r  U 
further  conGrmalion  of  this  theory,  wa  koOTT  tkatDH^ 
on  his  return  from  limscls  to  Nureniberg  in  AngB^  Itf^ 
went  spcoially  oat  of  bis  way  to  visit  Alteobaqb  M IT^ 
pelted  by  a  linpiring  desire  tr "—  "^ 


directly  W  to  the  en 


branch  oT  art  wUA  hal 

then  m  wonbDyadaitl.' 
I  suppose  that  the  "Biiier"  glui  Bov  it 
Shrewsbury  was  in  the  trypt  of  AltenbesK  aUff 
church,  for  the  glass  mentioned  by  Ur.  S^rMS 
his  Fotir  Lettert  tm  Colour  (Spcm.  1871)— 
"consist  oxplosiveiy  ofdmiaiBi  of  folij 
diaper  wcrit  of  the  gtaateat   -' 


1  probability  to  tha  lattir  pare  of  the  petiod  in 
le  chnrcb  was  buUt — that  is  tc    ly,  to  the  I  alls  I  ; 


4«S.IX.HATll,'Tt.] 


KOTES  AND  QUERIEa 


391 


tbe  IblitotDth  and  the  comi 


o(  tlie  ronrteeDth 


It  ia  s^d  the  church  wu  built  from  the  deaigna 
of  Erwin  Ton  SteicbBcli,  t!io  celebrated  architect 
of  Cologne  Cathedral.  Mr.  Sharpe  thinks  the 
PruBsian  government  haa  repftired  the  church,  and 
therefore  probably  aaved  the  glaaa.    lie  goes  so 


fara< 


r  of  stained-elua,  it  were  desired  to  teSact 
worka  of  art  that  would  mo4t  fitly  typify  and  rsprdseiit 
the  purity  and  aimpHcitv  of  Anglioan  woratip,  I  sboald 
not  licxitale  to  indicate  tbe  wiodows  of  Altraberg  abbey 
L'hnrch  m  the  models  we  should  adopt." 

JoHM  PioooT,  Jnr.,  F.S.A, 


(4*  S.  ix.  299.) 

The  name  of  Breton  occurs  on  the  liat  of  Not- 
man  barons  who  came  over  with  the  Conqueror. 
The  adventurer  ia  supposed  to  hare  attended 
Alan-Fergent,  Karl  of  llratagnc,  at  the  battle  of 
Ilnstinge.  The  lamilj  afterwards  settled  in  Derby- 
shire and  Essex. 

'  The  Add.  MSS.  GG-aii,  f.  305,  0675,  f.  359,  b., 
inform  ua  that  Itobert  Breton  rasidod  at  Walton, 
where  he  died  7  Edw.  I.  lie  had  issue  Roger  le 
Breton,  a  native  of  Waltijn  Miles,  died  2  Edw,  II. 
This  Ko|[er  wibiesaed  an  aareement  made  in  1243. 
Robert,  the  son  and  heir  of  Roger,  died  24  Edw.III. 
His  family  intermarried  with  the  Londbam'a  of 
Derby.  The  Breton  family  of  Walton,  co.  Derby, 
became  extinct  in  tbe  early  part  of  the  fourteenth 
century.  They  bore  arms,  Argent,  a  chevron,  be- 
tween three  eacallops,  (^ules,  The  present  repre- 
sentatives  of  the  family  hearing  tne  name  (the 
orthography  of  which  haa  undergone  many 
changes)  doubtless  am  the  dewendantB  of  the 
Eii^ei  branch.  The  manor  of  Bretons  beloDEcd 
to  tbe  family  of  the  same  name  ore.  ISW.  Thia 
manor  was  then  celled  "  itretonneslond,"  in  the 
liberty  of  Haverinjf.atte-Bower.  In  the  kitchen 
window  of  Bretons  waa  the  amis,  "Gules,  a 
clierron  or,  between  three  crescents  ermine, 
above,  Scnrgwtll.  and  beneath,  Dmia.  Marterii  de 
SrHoiu;"  and  in  the  clmrch  there  waa an  epitaph 
for  Thomas  Scarpill,  Esq.,  who  died  in  1475. 
William  de  Breton  held  Ihe  manor  of  liivershall, 
en.  Essex,  and  died  45  Hen.  Ill-  Engebald  de 
Breton  pnjise«sed  the  estate  of  Patching  Pychott 
in  Broomtield,  near  Chelmsford,  Ump.  Edw.  1. 
Ilobert  de  Breton  owned  lands  in  Ardley,  and 
was  a  great  benefactor  to  St.  Botolph'a  Priory, 
Colchester,  at  a  yery  early  period. 

Itridges  says  that'"  land  :n  Dodington  bad  be- 
longed to  John  le  Bretor,whowas  succeeded  by  his 
MBter  Maud,  the  wife  of  Rirhard  de  In  Byveie." 
Set!  Nichols's  Herald  and  Genealegid,  toL  iv.  p. 
231.    Sevend  references  to  thia  fumly  may  bo 


found  in  the  Collectanea  Top.  et  Geaeat.  Sir  Jolm 
le  Bretun  or  Bretoun  was  sJderman  of  the  City  of 
IiondoQ  24  Edw.  I.  1296.  His  name  occurs  in 
Uiley's  Memoriait  ofLotdoit,  pp.  31, 32,  34. 

W.  WlHTKBB. 

Wallham  Abbey. 

The  fiaoced  bride  of  the  hishly' talented  and 
deeply  regretted  Henri  Reniaiilt  (MUed  at  £a- 
Eeuval),  whose  works  have  neeu  so  much  and  so 
justly  admired  in  Paris  lately,  is  a  Mias  Breton. 

Madame  le  Breton,  mentioned  by  J.  J.  B., 
"the  constant  attendant  on  the  ex-Empren 
Eugfaiie"  (^by  her  maiden  name  Miaa  AjUle 
BoDrbaki),  is  the  aiater  of  that  glorious  soldier 
General  Bourbaki,  who  at  Inkermann  so  impeto- 
ously  flew  to  the  rescue  of  tbe  gallant  Sit  Colin 
Campbell  and  his  Highlanders,  standing  like  a 
rock  against  overwhelming  forces,  and  hastilf 
bidding  his  worthy  chief,  the  future  Marahu 
Bosquet,  to  "  follow  suit." 

P.A.L. 

I  have  an  earljr  charter  with  a  Le  Britin  men- 


ISrittain  and  Britton  are  of  different  origin.  The 
first  irom  "  a  Briton,  whether  of  Great  Britain  or 
Bretainie,"  as  Bosworth  says;  and  the  latter,  as 
J.  J.  B.  suppose!,  f^m  the  name  of  a  place,  M 
JohndeBnhm.  C.  Chattqok. 

Castle  Bromwich. 


BOUND  TOWERS  OP  NORFOLK. 
(4*  S.  is.  136, 186,  249, 327.) 
At  page  136  your  correspondent  remarks,  in 
reference  to  this  subject,  that  in  his  copy  of 
BlomeGeld's  Norfolk  appear  some  notes  of  an  aUe 
commentator  in  reference  to  the  one  at  Lethering- 
sett,  stating  that  "  Hound  towers  denote  a  rivar 
at  hand."  Tbia  I  presume  refers  to  MS.  notss 
by  some  one  to  whom  the  book  had  belonged,  aa 
in  my  copy  of  Blomefield  (the  edition  which  wu 
completed  in  1810)  no  remark  of  the  sort  appean 
in  reference  to  tbe  parisb  of  Letheringsett ;  aod 
certainly  the  commentator  was  to  a  consideraUe 
extent  mistaken  in  his  idea,  for  though  a  coiui- 
derable  number  of  churches  with  round  towers 
will  be  found  by  the  aides  of  the  rivers  Weniom, 
Yarc,  and  Waveney,  there  are  aeveral  along  Ite 
N.  end  E.  coast  bordering  on  the  sea,  and  in  a 
liat  of  ninety-three  which  I  possess,  as  existing  in 
Norfolk,  I  can  enumerate  somesizty  or  thereabouts 
of  whidi  it  can  hardly  be  sud  that  they  indicate 
even  a  "alugsiah  pike  stream"  at  hand.  There 
is  no  doubt  Uiat  Mb.  Bahelet  is  right  in  Us 
statement  that  the  round  towers  era  the  oldeat 
port  of  the  church.  Aly  own  church,  the  first 
round  tower  in  ths  wwtem  pvt  of  the  ooub^, 


392 


NOTES  AND  QUEBXES. 


[4i»8.IX.]aTll,*71 


hftB  a  row  of  cucular-headed  windows  round  the 
upper  compartment,  the  church  itself  having  loops 
splayed  on  both  sides ;  and  in  another  about  eiffnt 
miles  east  there  is  a  similar  row  of  windows,  but 
instead  of  being  citcular-headed  like  mine,  they 
are  surmounted  by  two  stones  forming  a  triangle ; 
and  the  octagonal  portions,  which  exist  in  twenty- 
three  instances,  are,  I  believe,  all  adjuncts  patched 
on,  for  whatever  cause,  in  the  trcmsition  period 
from  the  decorated  to  the  perpendicular  style. 
May  it  not  be  that  many  of  them,  if  not  all,  espe- 
cially those  on  the  coast  and  b^  the  sides  of  the 
main  rivers,  judfifing  from  their  situations,  were 
originally  Danish  watch-towers,  to  which  the 
bodies  of  the  churches  afterwards  came  P  That 
they  were  built  by  the  Danes,  Blomefield,  from 
whatever  source  he  derived  his  information,  seems 
to  have  been  strongly  of  opinion,  for  in  the  parish 
of  Cranwick  he  states  that ''  the  round  tower  is  of 
^reat  and  venerable  antiquit}r,builtL  as  I  conceive, 
m  the  reign  of  the  Danisn  kings ,-  and  in  South 
Peckenham,  also  a  round  tower,  he  says  that 
'*  it  was  very  probably  built  by  Edric  the  Danish 
lord ; "  and  in  the  Htdoty  of  Thetfard  he  says — 

**  And  from  this  time,  the  Danes  becoming  Christians, 
all  over  Norfolk  and  great  part  of  Suffolk,  b^an  to  divide 
the  country  among  them,  naming  their  shares,  which 
became  so  manv  new  villages,  either  after  their  own  names 
or  that  of  their  situations,  but  calling  the  Saxon  towns 
and  villages  after  their  old  names ;  and  after  some  time, 
when  Christianity  was  settled  amon^  them,  they  began 
to  found  churches  in  many  of  their  villages,  as  the  many 
round  towers  in  this  county  which  are  now  standing 
plainly  demonstrate." 

Whatever,  however,  may  have  been  their  origin 
and  the  cause  of  their  shape,  1  canuot  am*ee  with 
J.  T.  F,*s  theory ;  for  if  so,  we  should  nave  ex- 
pected to  find  them  in  the  marshland  district, 
where  the  difHculty  of  obtaining  proper  material 
must  have  been  very  great,  and  there  is  not  a 
single  round  tower  west  of  the  Ouze.  Moreover, 
they  are  to  be  found  dispersed  all  over  the 
county,  generally  in  groups,  and  are  not  confined  to 
the  chalk  and  flint  district.  IJegimiing  with  my 
own,  there  are  five  stretching  in  a  straight  line 
due  east,  to  beyond  East  Dereham,  a  distance  of 
more  than  twenty-five  miles.  Of  these,  three  are 
tall  and  slim,  two  are  short  and  thick  j  three 
have  octagonal  tops,  and  two  have  not. 

In  looking  up  the  information  in  the  matter  of 
round  towers,  I  found  two  statements  in  Blome- 
field somewhat  bearinff,  though  not  directly,  on 
the  subject.  First,  in  IBumham  Overy  he  states 
that  "  the  church  is  dedicated  to  St.  Clement," 
and  that  "  churches  so  dedicated  mav  be  observed 
for  the  most  part  to  bo  seated  near  some  water, 
river,  or  sea."  In  this  parish  the  tower  is  square. 
Then  in  Bokenham  Ferry  ho  says  that  the  church 
is  dedicated  to  St.  Xicnolas,  as  ^*  most  churches 
are  standing  near  some  river  or  water ; "  and  in 
this  parish  also  the  tower  is  square ;  but  of  the 


654  churches  of  which  he  records  the  dedicatimM 
there  are  only  four  dedicated  to  6t  Clement^  and 
twenty-two  to  St.  Nicholas ;  all  the  former  have 
square  towers,  Buniham  Oveiy  and  Terringtm 
being  near  the  sea,  Outwell,  of  which  the 
churchyard  abuts  on  Wdl  Creek,  connecting  the 
Ouze  and  Nene,  and  lying  near  the  Wensom; 
and  of  the  latter  three  only  have  round  towex8|  of 
which  one  has  an  octagon  top.  Of  thes&  six  are 
near  the  sea,  one  is  by  the  side  of  the  xarey  and 
the  remainder  are  not,  so  feur  as  I  am  awaze  of 
their  localities,  so  near  to  any  stream  aa  to  have 
their  dedication  influenced  by  it  In  the  city  of 
Norwich  there  are  five  churches  with  round 
towers,  all  certainly  near  the  river,  but  not  one 
dedicated  to  either  St.  Clement  or  St.  Nicholai; 
in  fact,  the  dedications  seem  rather  to  have  been 
guided  by  neighbourhood  than  by  any  other  con- 
sideration, for  similarity  of  dedication  according 
to  neighbourhood  is  very  prevalent  throughout 
the  county.  E.  J.  H. 

Bexwell  Bectory. 

BURNS'S  COPY  OF  «  SHAKESPEARE,"  AXD   . 
BLIND  HARRY'S  ••  WALLACE.- 

(4«»  S.  ix.  286.) 

Referring  to  the  above,  I  cut  the  following  from 
the  catalogue  of  the  bookseller  who  poaseflsed  tiie 
volumes  referred  to,  as  his  rejoinder  to  the  depi^ 
ciatory  and  unprofessional  attack  of  his  aaaaiiiiit 
In  America — where  the  amenities  of  dviliaatifli 
are  only  slowly  taking  root,  and  have  acaioeily 
penetrated  down  to  booksellers ^it  is  atill  neoe^ 
sary  to  carry  the  tomahawk  and  the  ahootiBg 
iron ;  and  above  all  indispensable,  if  your  nd^ 
hour  should  smite  you  on  one  cheek,  to  amite  bna 
in  return  on  both  cheeks.  The  hot  and  peppeiy 
style  of  the  rejoinder  quoted  below  is,  theretoNb 
like  double  extra  curry  in  India— expected  nd 
relished ;  and  if  a  contestant  can  use  his  ImncU^ 
dusters  with  dexterity,  he  is  the  moze  applandad. 
The  reply  is  by  no  means  a  bad  spedmen  of  a 
shoulder  hit,  even  for  a  bookseller;  and  itmij 
help  to  amuse  the  languor  of  your  languid  book- 
shops. 

With  reference  to  the  inquiry  aa  to  the  booki 

referred  to,  I  am  informed  that  the  Skdkeapmn 

was  disposed  of  to  a  gentleman  of  taste ;  bat  thit 

Bums's  Wallace  was  still  on  hand.    The  boob 

seller  in  question  had  also  sold  a  letter  of  BvaA 

addressed  to  Mr.  Inglis,  Provost  of  Invemeei;  vd 

Bums's  MS.  of  his  first  epistle  to  R.  Gxahimof 

Fintray :  — 

**  The  Greatest  Ltterart  Treasure  xar  AmiiOI- 
Robert  Bams*  own  copy  of  Shakspean  and  Blind  HaiQ^ 
Wallace.  I  am  prepared  to  treat  with  pvbUo  JMtfcs* 
tions  or  gentlemen  of  taste  for  the  sak  of  ttob«t  Bum 
own  copies  of  the  above  works.  The  Wiakineaia  k  k, 
8  vols.  l2mo,  Kdin.,  1771,  and  was  nrewnled  lDtii%f 
by  the  editor,  Dr.  Hugh  Blair  of  iMliiiiin*- 


4»  S.  IX.  Mat  11, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUEKIES. 


393 


lace  is  in  3  vols.  16mo,  bound  in  one.  Perth,  1790. 
Portrait  and  plates,  and  was  subscribed  for  by  the  Bard, 
and  bears  his  name  in  the  list  of  subscribers.  Both  books 
contain  the  manly  autograph  of  Burns,  and  1  am 
now  ready  to  receive  offers  for  the  same.* 

"*  An  attack  on  me  for  the  above  advertisement 
having  appeared  in  the  catalogue  of  a  Nassau-street  book- 
seller, I  wish  merely  to  notice  it  to  say  that  had  the 
remarks  come  from  any  other  quarter,  they  would  pro- 
bably have  been  edifying  and  useful.    But  that  paper, 
when  original,  being  chiefly  vituperative  attacks  on  the 
compilers  of  sale  catalogues,  or  describers  of  books  (cata- 
logues prepared  at  his  own  shop,  of  course,  always  ex- 
cepted), and  when  not  vituperative,  a  thing  entirely  of 
scissors  and  paste,  I  cannot  benefit  from  the  admonitions 
of  the  patriarch.  I  appeal  to  the  public,  and  not  to  a  rival 
bookseller  (who  has  given  abundant  evidence  he  ap- 
proves of  nothing  not  *  hammered  on  his  own  anvil*) 
to  decide  whether  Burns'  own  Shakspeare  and  Wallace 
are,  or  are  not,  the  treasures  I  represent.    The  name  of 
Robert  Burns  I  trust  is  still  a  charm — still  lives  to  *  rival 
all  but  Shak.«4peare's  name  below.'    Besides,  my  remarks 
were  not  intended  for  the  Ishmaelite  of  Nassau  Street ; 
they  were  addressed  to  gentlemen  of  taste— not  paste. 
Nemo  me  impune  luces^it.*'' 

0.  K.  Hall. 

New  York,  April  9,  1872. 


Bloke's  "History  and  ANTiaxriTiES  of  the 
County  of  Kutland  "  (4'*"  S.  viii.  436.) — Through 
the  kind  courtesy  of  Joseph  Phillips,  Esq.,  of 
Stamford,  I  have  been  supplied  with  infonnation 
on  the  above  subject ;  and,  as  the  preparation  of  a 
county  history  is  a  matter  of  interest  to  many 
readers,  I  will  Tenture  to  quote  a  portion  of  Mr. 
Phillips's  communication : — 

"  The  unpublished  MSS.  for  Blore's  Ehiory  ofRuUand 
were  bought  of  Blore's  widow  by  the  late  Sir  Gerard 
Noel,  and  remained  at  Exton  until  a  year  or  two  ago, 
when  the  present  Lord  Gainsborough  put  them  into 
the  hands  of  the  Rev.  J.  II.  Hill  of  Oranoe,  who  is  now 
engaged  upon  a  History  of  Rutland.  Some  transcripts 
of  charters  relating  to  several  parishes  in  the  county, 
most  beautifully  written  by  Blore,  with  copies  of  the 
seals  attached,  made  by  his  son  Edward,  are  in  the  posses- 
sion of  Mr.  Richardson,  auctioneer,  Stamford,  for  sale ; 
and  there  is  with  them  a  MS.  genealogical  work  by  Blore, 
in  his  b(.>t  style,  of  the  noble  families  of  England." 

CuTHBERT  Beds. 

Genius  "a  Capacity  for  taking  Trouble" 
(4"»  S.  ix.  280,  374.)  — Yes  J  but^  a  great  many 
years  before  !Mr.  Carlyle  a  certain  Buffon  wrote 
that  ^'  Le  g^nie  est  une  grande  puissance  d'atten- 
tion."  G.  A.  Sala. 

Oliphant  Barony  (3'*  S.  ix.  65 ;  4"»  S.  ix. 
322.) — I  do  not  know  anything  of  "John  Oly- 
phant,"  the  alleged  son  of  "  Lord  Olyphant,  who 
married  Janet  Morton."  A  book  of  Scotch 
peerage  printed  in  Edinburgh  in  1834  gives  the 
representation  to  Oliphant  of  Gask,  but  states 
that  this  is  claimed  by  Laurence  Oliphant  of 


Oliphant,  the  owner  of  a  pottery  work  in  the 
neighbourhood  of  Glasgow.    A  statement  of  this 
claim,  with  such  of  the  family  papers  and  other 
documents  as  could  be  made  available,  were  sub- 
mitted for  opinion  of  counsel,  and  steps  were  taken 
to  prosecute  the  matter  in  the  Edinburgh  law 
courts.  These  were  terminated  through  the  death 
of  Mr.  Oliphant,  and,  owing  to  the  great  expense 
and  uncertainty  attendant  upon  such  proceemngs, 
were  not  renewed  by  his  heirs.    Francis  Oliphant 
left  no  son,  but   his  daughters  were  mamed*- 
Isabella  to  Thomas  Neilson,  merchant  in  Glas- 
gow, another  to  a  gentleman  of  the  name  of 
Paterson,  whose  son,  Thomas  Paterson,  M  J).,  the 
famous  anatomical   modeller,   well  remembered 
for  his  great  scientific  attainments,  died  lately 
unmarried.    Of  the  children  of  Isabella  Oliphan^ 
who  married  Thomas  Neilson,  one  daughter  was 
the  mother  of  the  Rev.  Gilbert  Rorrison,  D.D.,  of 
the  Scotch  Episcojpal  Church,  Peterhead.  Thomas 
Neilson  (surgeon  It.N.),  her  younger  son,  accom- 
panied Captain  Beechy  in  his  voyage  to  the  Pacific 
as  one  of  his  assistant-surgeons.    He  died  without 
issue  in  charge  of  a  government  hospital  at  Sierra 
Leone.  Isabella  Olipnant's  elder  son  Francis  prac» 
tised  in  Glasgow  as  a  physician.    His  son,  F.  R, 
Neilson,  at  the  head  of  the  Agra  and   United 
Service  Bank,  died  in  1860  vdthout  living  issue^ 
having  married  a  daughter  of  Sir  Henry  Willod^ 
Chairman  of  the  Hon.  East  India  Company.    Dr. 
Neilson's  daughter  Isabella  married  Captain  (now 
Major-Genewa)  R.  C.  Tytler,  on  the  staff  of  H.M. 
Indian  army.    His  younger  daughter,  Mrs.  Mar- 
garet Chalmers  Roger,  died  in  18GI,  leaving  a  son 
and  daughter  her  surviving.  Alter  Ego, 

It  is  stated  in  the  judgment  in  the  case  of 
Smith  V.  Murray  in  the  Court  of  Session,  as  re- 
ported in  the  Faculty  Collection  under  date 
Dec.  9, 1814,  vol.  xviii.  p.  87,  that  John  Oliphan^ 
''  commonly  called  Lord  Oliphant,"  succeeaed  to 
the  estate  of  Bachilton  in  October  1770;  that 
Lord  Olinhant  was  succeeded  in  the  same  estate 
in  1781  by  John  Harrison  Oliphant,  who  was 
succeeded  in  1791  by  John  Oliphant,  who  like- 
wise died  and  was  succeeded  by  Margaret,  who 
died  (in  1800)  and  was  succeeded  by  Janet  Oli- 
phant, afterwards  Lady  Elibank.  V. 

W.  T.  M.  suggests  it  as  a  possibility  that  heirs 
to  the  barony  of  Oliphant  may  still  turn  up.  Are 
there  any  lands  connected  with  the  title,  and  is 
the  succession  limited  to  the  heirs  male  or,  in  de- 
fault of  such^  does  it  descend  in  the  female  line  P 

T.  Oliphaijt  BucHANAir, 


History  op  the  Vaudois  (4**»  S.  ix.  138,  210, 
329.)  —  The  Vaudois,  their  Origin,  Sieion/,  and 

-^    -_^ --    present  Condition,  by  E.  Henderson,  D.D.,  pub- 

Condie.     It  is  v^ithin  my  knowledge  that  the  I  lished  by  John  Snow,  London,  1858.     If  voar 


dormant  peerage  of  Oliphant  was  also  claimed  in 
the  beginning  of  the  present  century  by  Frands 


correspondent,  W.  A«  B.  Coolidoe,  is  not  alreadj 
acquainted  with  the  above  work,  he  will  fijid  in 


NOTES  AND  QUEKIKb. 


[4<*S.1X.  1IatU,TL 


it  much  iufoimatioQ  respecting  tbat  inl^iesting  1  tii  Jaa  of  hii  prototype.    I  b&re  not  had  ocoMon 

people.  Jauea  Pjahsok.       to  communicate  ^tfa  Mr.  Lainff  within  tho  lait 

i^'hteen  montha,  but,  Bn  far  as  I  am  aware,  lie  W 


paopli 

Uilnrow.  I 

Miss  BALFonE  (4"'  S.  ix.  299.)— I  havo  before  I 
me  tliu  Tolume  cif  tliis  Indy'e  piieuis,  and  also  the  ! 
anonymoua  play,  Kalhieen  O'A'til,  to  which  Mo. 
Ihgli^  alludes.     The  second  poem  iu  the  little 
book  titeuds  witli  its  notts  over  45  pagea,  and 
bears  the  sauio  title  as  the  f\ay—Kalliheii  O'A'eii. 
I  have  compared  the  poem  and  the  play,  and  cer- 
tniiily  consider  them  to  hu  by  ihu  »ime  lund; 
further,  I  have  cuDununicatod  with  those  who 
knew   Mi^a  Balfour,   and   I   tind   nn   iuiprestiuD 
existing  that  alio  wrot«  a  play  which  was  per- 
formed  in   Belfuat,      The   Tulunie   of  poems   U 
entitled  Ilupe .-  a  I'lieticai  Emo;/,  wilh  variim*  othfr 
FiKiiu,  by  Misa  lialfinir.     It  is  printed  bv  Smylli 
&  Lyons,  Belfast,' 1810.    The  play  is  entitled, 
"  KiUhitcii  O'XeU;  a  Grand  .\'afionat  Mdwlrama, 
M  thrm  AeU,  nx  perftirmtui  at  the  Itelfaxt  Thratre. 
I»rinted  by  ^Vrchbuld  &  Ilupin,  Jfellust,  IbU." 
The  fiilUiwiiitr  very  iinpwrect  sketch  coTitainii  all 
that  Ihiivu  been  able  tu learn  wpftidin^Miss  Ilal- 
four:— Her  Cbiiatinn name  wna,  I  bebive,  Man-. 
She  was  the  daughter  of  a  (jreutlumaii  who  held  a. 
chnrch  liviijg  in  the  couuty  and  diiice^ie  nl'  Derry, 
to  which  he  was  presented  liv  tho  I'larl  of  llristol, 
BUhup  iif  Berr)-.    As  far  as  'i  enn  l-ani,  Mr.  and 
MriMJtalfoiii:  were  Irish,  and  their  children 
bom  ill  the  county  of  lAirry.     AfliT  tlie  death  of 
her  parents  ]kliss  Balfour  removed,  wiih  her  two 
youiip-T  ^i^te^.■',  I'Jli/a  and  Ciithcrine,  to  the  town  i 
of  Kewljjwiilimariuiy  {county  Derry),  where  they 
opened  a  school  for   j-'irls.      Tlicy  were  here  iti  I 
ItilQ,   wlien  !Mir4  It.   puliUshed   her   volume   of 
poems,     Shortly  after  lliis  time,  cirrluiulv  before 
l8I;i,  the  three  ladies  came  t'l  Belfa^t'and  ««■ 
tablished  their  school  in  a  |jiiu:<e  which  occupied 
the  Nto  of  what  is  now  known  as  the  "  Bank 
Buildinr;s"  at  tho  junction  of  Castle  I'iace  anil 
Costlu  Street.     The  school  was  not  kept  open 
more  than  a  few  yearji,  and  I  have  not  been  able 
to  learn  where  Miss  Balfour  eubsetiuuntly  resided. 
She  died  unmarried,  ai<  did  V.vt  siller  Catherine ; 
her  ei>tcr  J^li/Ji  married  a  Mr.  .Michael  it^s,  and 
she,  alf«,  I  understand,  hai'  been  many  ycHrzi  dead. 
1  think  it  verv  probable  tiint  when  the  seliunl  in 
Jtelfitt  was  (Hven  n;.,  Miw  Jlilf.»ic  w^nt  biick  la 
the  county  of  Berry,  and  was  there  f<jr  the  re- 
mainder oi'her  life.  '  W.  U.  I'attkusom. 
Belliut 

Tabsir'3 Seals  (4*  S.  ii.  r.21.)— Idonot  know 
the  address  of  any  artist  in  I.ondiin  who  copie«  old 
(Wma  in  fi-loss;  but  Sir.  Henry  Tjtin;,',  of  3,  Kldtir 
Street,  Edinbur|jh — favourably  known  as  the 
author  of  A  Docriptiee  (Uiiahiyue  of  Ancient  Seat- 
tith  StaU—wfiB  the  pupil  of  Mr.  'I'lisgie,  and  m',- 
quired  his  knowledpi  of  the  art  in  hif  service.  !n 
the  estimation  of  peraons  beat  qualified  to  judpc 
the  reproducticms  by  Mr.  Lainj;  are  quite  equal  to 


slill  t. 

J.  UK.  a. 

WisDHBASK  Fahilt  (4»3.  i«.  331.)— Two 
?trip^  in  the  pedigree  mav  be  obtained  from  Wood't 
I\uti  Ojwi.,  vol,  i.  col. '734,  ed.  IC02,  where  it  ia 
stated  that  Sir  Thomas  Windehank,  of  Hainca 
Hill  in  the  parish  of  Hurst,  Berits  (oh.  at  Pan* 
lL*j),  had  issue  two  dons,  1,  Sir  Thomas  of  tha 
kini^'shou-iehold;  1'.  Francis,  Col.  at  Blechiupdw 
House,  oh.  ICIS,  buried  in  St.  Mair  Magdalene 
f  hurch,  OxEord.  I  need  scarcely  tetta  your  cor- 
n^spondcnt  to  so  well  known  a  work  aa  Aahmole'a 
IM.  of  Berh*.  But  he  may  be  frlad  to  know 
that  there  U  a  \m^  collection  in  MS.  relating  to 
that  county  in  the  Bodleian,  known  as  the  "Clarke 
MriS,,"  an*  account  of  which  ia  to  be  found  !■ 
JLarrnv's  AnnaU  iiftU  Badl  Lib.,  p.  213.  Oifoid, 
l;j(j3. "  Ed.  MlBSBALL. 

"Tub  D.iM.AD  of  Floddes  FiEr.n"  (4*8. 
liii,  pa*fim;  xx..  20-),  oLT.) — I  think  that  you 
In^t  correspondent  on  this  subject  is  rather  un- 
charitable. True,  when  we  pet  hold  of  a  roola- 
hill  of  our  own,  the  frailty  of  human  nature  ii 
mroly  superior  to  the  temptation  of  magnifying  it 
into  a  mountaiu. 

As  your  correspondent  remarks,  tho  Rev.  K 
Lambe  was  in  the  habit  of  riving  his  "  forgeiiai'' 
to  ballad  printer'',  "  (I'Aa  published  t^cm  . . .  aad 
&i  obtained  a  cirenUtion  for  them  amongst  tha 
peaMntry." 

It  does  not  appear  to  me  that  tha 

ntleniim  had  anv  worse  intention  than 

eeminate,  undi-ra'iioHnfejiiMjne  (likely  to 

interest),  excellent  verses  of  hia  own  e 

n,  which  had  tlio  intrinsic  merit  of  a] 


if  Br.  Lamho  had  pretended  that  ha  had  fovad 
these  poems  in  the  handwriting  of  some  wdt 
l;nowu  person,  or  had  imitated  any  pTeriooa  poet 
he  would  have  incurred,  justly,  the  censure  ol 
your  correBi>ondeut ;  hut,  after  all,  he  only  pitad 
on  inutjiinary  shepherd  with  hi*  own  muse,  not 
with  any  criminal  intention  (soch  aa  is  imputed), 
hut  from  motives  probably  the  verv  opKMit& 

I  will  not  compare  his  rasa  witn  CnatttT 
a.»  the  two  are  widely  different 
from  that  of  Macpherson,  but  o" 


•roaches  that  of  the  autborof  ArMIa 
fa  clever  novel,  by  the  way).     It  WH 


1  part,  I  do  not  appron  of  atooig 


ds  an  antique  charm,  -m^A  W  agnd  1> 
of  a  "genuine  antique  j"  vA  Alt  IkavH^ 

'^'^ 


ballads 

that  of  a  "  genuine 

love  bung  wounded  by 


4«h  S.  IX.  May  11,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QLTJIIES. 


31^5 


were  modem  compositions,  they  at  once  vented 
their  spleen  on  the  accomplished  author.  Mus- 
cular criticism  is  generally  unsatisfactory.  It 
often  causes  a  reaction  in  favour  of  the  victim. 

S.  S. 

Parish  Kegisters  (4**»  S.  ix.  315.)— It  is  not 
easy  to  comprehend  wliy  there  should  be  so  much 
dithculty  on  the  subject  to  which  your  corre- 
.spondent  refers.  In  Scotland  at  least  there  is 
none.  L'p  to  a  certain  date  the  original  registers 
are  kept  whore  the  entries  were  first  made,  and 
authentic  copies  transmitted  to  be  kept  in  the 
nliice  in  Edinburgh  ;  or  it  may  be  that  the  reverse 
mode  of  proceeding  is  adopted ;  but  if  the  copies 
are  properly  authenticated,  it  is  no  matter  where 
they  are  kept,  i.e.  whether  by  the  parish  clerk  or 
at  the  register  ottice. 

Since  1  lirst  became  a  reader  of  your  valuable 
publicatioft,  I  have  used  the  freedom  more  than* 
once  to  cull  the  attention  of  your  English  corre- 
spondent.-i  to  the  Scotch  statute  for  registration  of 
births,  deatJis,  and  marriages,  which  was  carried 
through  by  Lord  liilcho,  and  has  been  in  operation 
for  niuny  years  with  admirably  good  effect.     See 
particularly  the  General  Index  to  your  Second* 
Series,  vocu:  *•  Scottish  Parochial  Pegisters."      I 
am   n«it   awan^,    however,   that  any  one  of  your 
Engli.-h  friends  has  been  so    kind  as  to    notice 
those  articles,  but  all  continue  to  speak  as  if  the 
Scotch  statute  is  not  in  existence.  G. 

IMlnburgh. 

Trri:  *' Outlandish  Knight"  (4»»>  S.  ix.  320.) 
Mk.  Patcliffe  will  find  this  ballad  in  page  61 
of  l^ixou's  Pocms^  8^'c.  of  the  Peasantry^  Griffin 
&  Co.  London.  If  he  will  consult  the  Index  to 
**  X.  &  Q."  he  will  also  find  much  information 
about  it.  The  American  copy  that  he  speaks  of 
was  no  doubt  taken  from  the  American  unau- 
thorised reprint  of  Dr.  Dixon's  book  (Percy 
Society's  edition).  N. 

"  Fools  huild  Houses,"  etc.  (4^'»  S.  ix.  320.) 
Ifazlitt  attributes  to  Bacon  this  proverb,  but  gives 
no  refer<^uce,  and  I  caimot  find  it  in  Bacon.  In 
Bolm's  Pohjylot  of  Foreign  Proverbs  we  have  a 
tlightly  dili'erent  German  form — 

**  Narren  bauen  Hiiuser ;  der  Kluge  kauft  sie." 

John  Addis,  M.A. 


in  the  Episcopal  Church  wear  the  black  gown. 
I  was  once  present  at  a  continental  service  where 
an  American  episcopalian  oiiiciated  in  a  black 
gown.  I  was  told  that  he  could  not  wear  the 
sui-plice,  as  he  was  only  a  deacon.  N. 

Heron  or  Herne  (4'*»  S.  viii.  517  j  ix.  45, 129, 
189,  227,  306.)~Sidney's  Arcadia,  1629,  p.  85, 
"staggand  hearon.'"  Bacon's  Bemscitatio,  1670 
{Nat,  Hist,  of  Winds,  41),  "a  hem  flving"  .  .  . 
"  the  heam  standing."  "W.  C.  R 

"Barlay"  (4*»«  S.  ix.  238,  ^m.)— Barley  \b 
pretty  clearly  set  forth  in  Ilalliwell's  Dictionary 
as  regards  meaning,  which  need  not  be  quoted. 
Brockett's  Glossary  of  North  Country  Words  is 
scarce,  and  therefore  I  hope  a  quotation  from  it 
will  be  excused.  **  Barley,  to  •bespeak  or  claim. 
Barley  me  that,  I  bespeak  that — let  me  have  that" 
Quasi,  in  corrupt  contraction,  '^  By  your  leave  me 
that."  *  See  Wilbraham's  Glossary  of  some 
Cheshire  Words,  London,  1820,  8vo.,  s.  v.  hallow, 
that  is  if  you  can  get  at  it.  II.  S.  Skipton. 

Tivoli  Cottage,  Cheltenham. 

In  games  it  is  considered  dishonouring  to  cry 
a  bftrlay  when  just  on  the  eve  of  bein^  caught,  and 
besides,  that  would  completely  ''  spoil  the  game." 
It  may  be  done  only  while  you  are  not  being  pur- 
sued, or  when  you  are  hurt.  A  curious  instance 
of  this  word  occurs  in  Chrystis  Kirk  on  ike 
Green — 


Lenten  Custom  (4'*»  S.  ix.  320.)— Some  years 

ago  the  custom  mentioned  by  Umteda  prevailed 

at  the  ancient   collegiate  church  of  St.  Mary's, 

Youghal,  CO.  Cork,  where  upon  Good  Friday  the 

clergy  always  officiated  in  their  black  gowns  and 

hoods.     Probably  the  practice  still  continues. 

C  S.  Ji., 
St.  Peter's  Square,  Hammersmith,  W. 

K I  am  not  mistaken,  the  choristers  at  Hereford 
always  wear  the  black  gown.  An  American  gen- 
tleman informs  me  that  in  some  dioceses  deacons 


"  Thoch  he  wes  wicht  he  wes  nocbt  wys 
With  sic  jacouris  to  geommill : 
For  fra  his  thomxie  tbay  dung  ane  aklys, 

Quhil  he  cry  it  burlaw  fummill  ^ 

Jouris. 

At  Chrystis  Kirk." 
Finkerton*s  Ancient  Scotiah  PoemSy  Append,  p.  447. 

FumnviU  is  a  misprint  for  sumfnill,  and  the  two 
words  I  take  to  be  a  corruption  of  summojtire. 
Hero  harlaw  evidently  =  parley.  Iluchoun  cried 
a  parley  when  he  found  his  thumb  broken,  and  he 
did  so  summo  jure,  because  in  hors  de  combat  con- 
dition. W.  F.  (2.) 

Huntingdon  CorNxr  History  (4***  S.  ix.  241, 

309..) — For  a  list  of  works,  &c.  (4^  columns  in 

length)   concerning  Huntingdonshire,  consult  A 

Handbook  of  Topography  and  Family  History  of 

England  and  Wales,  J.  C.  Hotten,  n.  d.  (1862  or 

18(53,  certainly  not  later  than  18(33),  8vo,  price 

5s,    Also  Mr.  A.  B.  Smith's  Catalogue  of  Topo^ 

graphical  Works,  ^c,  Soho  Square,  1871-2. 

II.  S.  Skiptok. 
Tivoli  Cottage,  Cheltenham. 

Milton  Qubbt  (4^  S.  ix.  881.)— I  cannot  see 
the  advantage  of  altering  ''  garden-mould "  to 
"  garden-mound  "  (Milton,  Paradise  Lost,  iv.  225), 
as  suggested  by  Mb.  Dixov.  Mould  (Lat.  mo- 
dulus,  not  A.-S.  mMe,  Lat.  nwh)  signifies  ^  that 

*  A  contraction  similar  to  that  of  the  railway  porters. 


396 


NOTES  AKD  QUEBIES. 


Ci*&lX.lbTii,  71. 


whicli  determmeB  the  mode"  or  shape,  a  modeL 
Fandiae  is  described  b;  the  poet  at  a  fertile  ia- 
doeure  in  the  cup  of  a  hajren  mountun  ri^ng  in 
the  east  of  Eden;  "for  God  had  thrown  that 
mountain  aa  hia  garden-mould  " — that  is,  in  order 
to  determine  the  confif^uration  of  the  aurface  of 
Paradise,  He  goes  on  to  tell  us  how  Satan,  hav- 
ing come  to  the  font  of  the  "  steep  savage  hill," 
leaped  to  the  top,  al^hted  within  tne  gaKlen,  and 
Bsw  the  flowera  of  Paradise,  which  "nature  boon 
poured  forth  profuse  on  hill  and  dale  and  plun  " ; 
showing  that  the  poet  conceived  the  mountain  aa 
moulding  hUl,  valley,  and  plain.  If,  as  your  cor- 
respondent flays,  a  "  mound,"  in  Milton'a  time, 
Bignified  "  a  long  earthen  embankmeat  inclosing  a 
field,"  IB  it  happy  to  make  the  tenn  apply  to  a 
mountain  F  Lewis  Ssboeaitt. 

Lord  Maoavxat's  New  Zsaiabser  (4"<  S.  ix. 
343. J — J,  Md.  will  find  a  notice  of  this  subject,  of 
considerable  length  and  interest,  under  the  head- 
ing "  Literary  Sim ilari ties,"  in  the  number  of 
Once  a  Week  which  issued  on  Sept.  11,  1860, 
The  writer,  who  mentions  Gibbon  in  addition  to 
the  names  given  in  the  editorial  note,  aaya  that 
he  has  found  the  idea  four  times  in  the  works  of 
Macaulay,  and  tells  us  that  since  Uacaulay  the 
figure  has  been  appropriated  by  Sir  Arch,  Jllison 
and  by  Lockhart  in  his  Life  of  Sir  Waller  Scott. 
He  concludes  with  the  remark  that  "the  prophet 
Ezeldel,  who  wrote  b.c.  605,  in  chaps,  xivi.  and 
zlvii.  of  his  book,  undoubtedly  furnishes  the  sug- 
gestion which  Macaulay  has  bo  felicitously  em- 
ployedt"  J.  Ck.  R. 

AOE  OF  Ships  ("4"'  S.  ii.  261.)— The  Annualof 
Scientific  Ditcooery,  1870,  contains  an  interesting 
"  Life  Table  of  American  Sea-going  Sailing  Vf 


'e  known  to  be  extant :  - 
4  oat  of  lODO  Tcascla  siuvivi 


20  years,  T'2 ;  30  yuua,  G'2 ;  ill  yea 


n  9'3  ywn  longeri  built 


,2-7. 


ALAnniir, 


"FiinSciENCB  ibows'd  mot"  (4'"  S.  ii.  339.) 
I  should  have  thought  that  Gray's  line  was  aa 
iut«lligible  as  any  in  the  Enf;lish  language.  It 
means  that"  he  acquired  learning  notwithstanding 
that  his  low  birth  was  unfavourable  to  his  so 
doing."  Science  may  be  supposed  ta  frown  ^ene- 
lally  on  those  of  humble  birth,  since  the  accident 
of  being  bora  in  s  low  station  of  life  is  an  impedi- 
ment to  the  acquisition  of  knowledge. 

K  Yabslr. 

Baform  Clnb. 


L   BUDmu  Hm 
is  prononoMd 


Abchbihhop  BLACKsiTBirx  (4l*  8,  ix.  180^ 
326,  289,)— Many  thanks  to  Q.  J.  H.  for  hii  in- 
ibrmation,  although  he  does  not  directiy  aannr 
iny  query.  If  he  can,  will  he  kindly  infium  mo  if 
there  are  alive  any  of  the  grandohildTen  orgmt 
grandchildren  of  the  archtnsbop'a  brother  E£raid( 
who,  I  believe,  was  a  merohant  in  Londcu  in  1700 1 
As  G.  J.  H.  rightly  aniAoMa,  the  MehUihop*! 
wife  was  the  widow  of  Walter  littleton,  Eoq,  rf 
Lichfield.  I  suppose  then  was  no  isme  of  uii 
marriage,  no  mention  being  made  of  anr  in  tits 
wiU.  ,  B.  W. 

MoDtieaL 

Cateb-codsiss  (4'*  S.  iz.  331.)  — In  Ton 
"  Notices  to  Correspondents  "  you  gave  to  IL  U.,m 
the  explanation  of  this  eipreadon,  a  nferenea  to 
the  idea  of  "  eating  together."  I  Bubndt  tU 
Dr.  Johnson's  is  a  far  muie  probable 
viz.,  from  the  French  ^latre,  which  is  pi 
"  cater  "  in  several  instances  in  EngilMh  s^ 
It  may  mean,  as  Johnson  Buggest8,/ov£il  eaodaa, 
01  it  may  have  reference  to  anotner  use  of  the 
word  ^uatre,  as  in  "  Un  Kable  A  qn&tTe,"  "  S* 
tenir  k  qualre,"  where  the  ezprepsion  mil  ill  ill  to 
relate  tJi  quanels  and  turbulent  Dehavioar. 

W.  P.  P. 

MTTiNWT  (4*  a  ix.  138,  18^  22a,  288.)  — 
In  the  "Bv»-gones"  column  of  the  OsMMfcy 
Advertiaer  of  April  10  was  corned  the  meaiiiiig  a 
the  name  Myfanwy,  aa  rendered  by  OziOtO  hi 
"N,  &  Q."  Dr.  Pughe,  a  well-known  tatSqmn 
and  Welsh  scholar,  critiseB  Cikbo  in  the  Iw 
Advertieer  aa  follows : — 

"  Tbe  trandation  of  '  Uyfanwr '  elvei  by  CnOO  k 
f/bia  and  Qutria  is  fdmply  abanrd.  It  U  not  'tMlf 
'rare,'  'exquisite;'  but  'my  nave  of  tliB  ata.' — 'Mj 
mar,'  an  emLneno*;  'wy,'  witar.  'Mr'  bilaA  ■- 
CvKRO  States,  the  pouenlva  pronoun  Id  Its  oldcit  SMK 
'  Manwy '  irould  be,  Utendly,  a  hill  of  watar^— lau  iV 
Ho  Fkddto," 

When  doctors  disagree,  who  ah&U  decide  P 

A.1L 

CroeavylaD,  Osweatry, 

Bishop  IIobhb  of  Nokvich  (4*^  8.  iz.  Wt 
290,  329,)— At  p.  241,  Bishop  Home's  name  ii 
given  as  SamueL  On  refemng  jto  Niot^'a  4^ 
noptit,  I  find — 

"  IT90.  Gtorgt  Home,  Dean  rfCantctfanij,  alMUd  (B^ 
of  Sorwich)  1790,  ob.  1792." 

A  family  of  this  name  owned  pTDperfy  in  tiw 
pariah  of  Cheriton,  Kent,  and  probablj  gna  tiM 
name  of  Horn  Street  to  a  portion  of  lliil  iiaiial 
They  were  related,  I  believe,  ta  another  Biihof 
Home  (Robert  of  Winchastar,  1681).  _ 

Hardbic  Uobpsik  J 

"  Thihx  that  Day  Loot,"  xio.  (4'"  S. 
These  lines  ue  quoted  in  Mi.  FriarvoU's 
liar  Words,"  page  S,  from    llMari.  JTA 


4«»S.IX  May  11/72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


397 


"  Fte,  qae  rub  her"  (4^  S.  ix.  240, 283, 347.) 

I  am  obliged  by  Mr.  Chappell*s  reply,  but  I 

must  repeat  my  query.    Bums  writes  — 

**  It  is  self-evident  that  the  first  four  lines  of  this  song 
are  part  of  a  song  more  ancient  than  Ramsay's  beautiful 
verses  which  are  annexed  to  them." 

I  think  no  one  can  compare  the  two  parts  with- 
out coming  to  the  same  conclusion,  and  as  the 
first  forms  only  an  eighth  part  of  the  whole, 
Kamsay  would  most  justly  claim  the  song  as  his 
own.  The  first  lines  have  no  connection  in  sense 
with  the  rest  of  the  songf,  and  they  refer  to  a 
custom  which,  as  far  as  I  am  aware,  is  miknown 
in  Scotland.  They  could  be  produ^d  only  where 
the  custom  was  understood  ;  and  while  it  is  pos- 
sible that  it  might  have  been  so  in  Scotland,  we 
have  heard  of  it  only  as  existing  in  the  north  of 
England.  If  then  the  language  also  of  these  lines 
would  bo  natural  to  the  inhabitants  of  that  dis- 
trict, it  may  fairly  be  inferred  that  the  ancient 
song  had  its  origin  there.  But  as  this  may  be 
only  opinion,  I  wish  to  know  if  the  first  lines,  or 
the  tune  under  the  name  "  Fye,  gae  rub  her," 
occur  before  Ramsay's  time ;  and  further,  what  is 
the  earliest  appearance  of  the  tune,  and  under 
what  name  ?  W.  F.  (2.) 

Battle  at  the  Birch  Tree  (4">  S.  viii.  436.) 
This  prophecy  is  ascribed,  in  the  German  folk- 
lore, to  -Jaspers,  the  Westphalian  peasant.  It  is 
given  in  almost  all  the  collections  of  German  (and 
French)  popular  prophecies.  But  a  very  complete 
account  of  these,  including  the  predictions  of 
Jaspers,  will  be  found  in  Blackwood's  Mar/azine 
for  May  1850  (vol.  Ixvii.)  It  is  from  the  pen  of 
Dr.  William  Gregory  of  Edinburgh.    D.  Blair. 

Melbourne. 

"Make  a  Bridge  of  Gold   for  a  Flying 

Enemy  "  (4»»»  S.  i.  434,  647.)— This  proverbial 

phrase — or  rather  a  similar  one — was  traced  to 

Kabelais  by  the  late  Sir  J.  Emerson  Tennent.    I 

find  the  true  authority  for  it  in  a  little  book  of 

ana  (a  real  gem  in  its  department)  entitled  Les 

Divers  Propos  Meinorables  des  Nobles  et  lUustres 

Homynes  de  la  Chredient6.     Par  Gilles  Corrozet. 

(Paris,  1571.)    The  book  is  registered  by  Brunet. 

At  p.  94  is  the  following : — 

**  Sentence  du  Comte  de  Pitillan. — Le  Comte  de 
Pitillan,  en  parlant  de  la  guerre,  soulouit  dire,  Quand  ton 
ennemy  voudra  fuxr^  faia  luy  un  pont  (Tor." 

Who  was  the  Comte  de  Pitillan  ?  I  have  not 
yet  been  able  to  trace  him  in'  any  of  the  bio- 
graphical dictionaries  or  contemporary  m^motrej 
(French)  I  have  examined.  D.  Blair. 

Melbourne. 

Flowers  on  priyatb  Seals  (4*^  S.  ix.  388.)  — 
Flowers  and  fruits  do  not  seem  to  be  uncommon 
bearings  in  German  heraldry.  See  the  Lmgnium 
Theoria  of  P.  J.  Spener.  Francf.  ad  Moenumi 
1690,  folio,  pp.  262-268.         Edward  Peacock. 


"  Dick  of  Taunton  Dean  "  (4»»»  S.  ix.  300.)— 
The  query  of  L.  R.  P.  is  very  amusing.  ''  Richard 
(or  Dick)  of  Taunton  Dean"  is  not  a  nursery  bal- 
lad, but  a  Somerset  comic  song,  which  is  not  only 
given  by  Mr.  Halliwell  and  myself  in  our  col- 
lections, but  may  be  found  in  numerous  other 
works.  If  L.  R.  P.  will  call  on  any  ballad  printer 
in  Seven  Dials  he  will  obtain  a  cheap  copy  of 
what  he  is  in  want  of.       James  £[enrt  Dixon. 


MiiittXijiVitnut. 

NOTES  ON  BOOKS,  ETC. 

Catcdogtu  of  the  Library  at  Lough  Fea,  in  illuttration  of 
the  History  and  Antiquities  of  Ireland,  Privately 
printed  at  the  Chiswick  Presi, 

In  this  handsomely  printed  volume  of  400  pages  we 
have  the  Catalogue  of  a  library  formed  almost  entirely 
within  the  last  twenty  years,  relating  in  the  first  place  to 
Irish  history  and  antiquities,  and  in  the  second,  con- 
taining a  no  less  perfect  collection  of  authors  who  have 
written  on  Ireland  in  illustration  more  particularly  of  its 

f>rogress  and  improvement.  The  formation  of  such  a 
ibrary  is  alone  sufficient  evidence  of  the  patriotism  and 
good  taste  of  the  gentleman,  Mr.  Evelyn  P.  Shirley,  by 
whom  it  has  been  collected  ;  and  in  complying  witn  the 
judicious  advice  of  those  friends  who,  recognising  the 
rare  and  somewhat  uncommon  character  of  the  library, 
urged  that  it  might  be  permanently  remembered  by  means 
of  a  printed  Catalogue,  and  in  ensuring  its  preservation 
by  making  it  an  heirloom  in  his  family,  Mr.  Shirley  has 
earned  for  himself  a  foremost  place  among  the  true  friends 
of  Ireland,  and  the  earnest  and  judicious  promoters  of  her 
well-being  and  material  progp-ess. 

Poseidon :  A  Link  between  Semite,  Hamite,  and  Aryan » 
being  an  Attempt  to  trace  the  Cultus  of  the  God  to  its 
Source :  with  Illustrations  of  the  History  of  the  KyklSpSf 
Hyksos,  Phoenicians^  Aithtopes  or  Cushites,  and  Phi- 
listines.   By  Robert  Brown,  Jun.  F.S.A.  (Longmans.) 

This  little  volume  is  a  proof  of  the  increased  interest 
now  taken  in  the  study  of  religious  mythology,  and  what 
our  author  calls  '*  the  mist-wrapped  history  of  the  Earlier 
Time.*'  The  object  of  the  wnter  is  to  establish  a  proposi- 
tion which  he  lays  down  as  follows :  Poseiddn,  in  origin, 
is  not  an  Aryan,'but  a  Semitic  and  Hamitic  divinity,  and 
his  cultus  passed  over  into  Greece  from  Chaldea,  by  way 
of  Phcenicia  and  LibyS.  This  proposition  the  author 
maintains  with  an  amount  of  ingenuity  and  learning 
which  will  no  doubt  lead  many  readers  to  give  attentive 
perusal  to  the  book,  though  the  subject  may  be  one 
which  they  may  at  first  consider  by  no  means  inviting. 

Burgh  Laws  of  Dundee^  with  the  History,  Statutes,  and 
Proceedings  of  the  Guild  of  Merchants  and  Fraternities 
of  CrafUmen.  By  Alex.  J.  Warden,  F.S.A.  Scot., 
ikindee.  Author  of  "  The  Linen  Trade,  Ancient  and 
Modem.'*    (Longmans.) 

Though  it  is  supposed  that  burghs,  holding  of  the 
Crown,  having  some  sort  of  constitution  and  enjoying 
certain  privileges,  existed  in  Scotland  in  the  tenth  and 
eleventh  centuries,  it  was  not  till  the  fint  half  of  the 
twelfth  century  that  David  I.  erected  nnmeroas  burghs 
with  the  rights  and  immanities  considered  neoeesaiy  to 
protect  trade  and  enoonrage  manufactaree.  To  canr  out 
these  objects,  those  entrusted  with  the  duty  had  to  frame 
laws  for  the  protection  and  government  of  the  bodies  over 
whom  they  presided.  These  are  preserved  in  the  andent 
Burgh  Records  of  Scotland,  which  contain  much  that  is 
of  interest  to  all  classes  of  modern  society ;  while  they 


nr.  Tl.r  F,m„u,  7',V-.\ 


to  m,  havB  bem  led  tu  mul  IhvM  iiTKCrful  little  SJotti-ih 
twrj  d*  wBcirli,  uiil  to  sbow  how  maeh  ws  bitre  bfen 
pleHed  iritli  them,  bv  tb*nkinR  the  unknown  anthnreM 
tor  htr  very  mfwpulile  idditloD  la  our  eolketioD  of  pri- 
MWly-printed  volaniw. 

Tkx  Camdex  Socirrr. — At  the  Ansiul  General 
Vi'Ibv  bdd  on  Thnndnv.  tbe  2nd  inttant.  unJer  the 
SYof  Sir  William  tite.  Lord  Aeton,  W«lier  J.  K. 
uq,  and  Jamte  UnirdoFr,  Knq^  wrrc  plectnl 
n  of  the  Conncil  for  IlicemuinK  ye«r.  The  Heport 
tha  Kheme  of  commenclDg  s  new  S«ies,had 
ansofHcuriDgtbeDdditiOD  ofmanv  nunes  to 
emben;  and  that  file  important  booki  had 
to  the  lUtof  pnblicitlanii  during  the  i>ut  rear, 
K  Two  Cbronida  of  the  Reign  of  Ilenrv  Vl„  tu 
baidiled  t^Mr.  Guidoar;  aa  Aoconnt  of  the 'Pensions 
paid  hr  tba  Spaiiiih  GoTtmment  to  tbe  Ministers  of 
Itmm  1^  to  be  edHwl  by  Doo  PaM^htl  Gajansoe  ;  ami 
H«(M  of  tbt  Debates  in  tb*  Hnnea  of  Commona  In  lUih, 
to  ba  adlNd  br  tbe  tKnctor.  Tboa*  wbo  know  the  vaat 
MMt  of  Witoried  Inbimattoii  contaiDed  in  tbe  FIrat 
SataRof  tkaCamdnPaUteattom^and  tba  valne  tliere- 
tm  of  tbaeUbonIa  bidaxiriiid  ia  In  praparatinn  >-v 
Hr.  Ooucb,  br  whom  tJia  admirable  lodez  to  tbe  Parker 
floafa^'a  paUlcaUoni  waa  eompjled,  will  be  eepeclally 
prtllW  bj  that  paaaeB  In  the  Report  which  aanoancci 
mat  IDl  oBt  of  the  tOS  eolanea  an  litber  Indexed  or  in 
liiwiaai.  and  that  that  gentleman  bopee  to  eom|Jete  bii 
wgitt  In  abont  aaother  j-ear. 

A  Bkw  EnmoK  or  I>r*ttow. — We  hare  RKat  plra- 
nMln^Tinf  pnbtidtjtolbefbnowlngBnnoaneemenl ; — 
■■>■- — I  bare  much  pleatiin  in  tellia|[  vdd  that  mv 
r,  Mr.  KaaeeU  SmilS. 


Aim.  ht 

MSS. 


4*8.  IX.  Mat  18,72.] 


KOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


'.LOifDoy,  siTUKOAr,  UArii,  \s^3. 


a  deBoUnd.'SW—  | 


ing"  — ilB»ndre  Umuns  —  Pnpulsr  y»ni«B  of  Flo-er*. 
*r„  —  Pmrmlle!  Pa-owires  ia  Tlbullus  unci  Dr.  WMli'i 
■' Hymns  "—HMd  IJibour  —  Iriih  l^yinciiliiniH  —  Baao. 
log  of  tlia  Word  "  Ona  "  or  ■■Or«,"  4c.,  403. 
OU&aiES:  — Bfiiertre  Carvinm,  VK  —  ibbotmot  Whftlkr 
»ndSiwler  — Battle  of  Bunker's  Hili  — Bell  InMrtption 
■t  Cburch-Klrk.ni-ar  Hlickburn  — JameaBeBon:  Dublin 
NB«!p«peri  —  "BlKk  John"  — Dirtd  Girrick  — Queen 
Ueivietls  Maria  —  llouiton  of  Hoiutna  —  lalantlia  — 

—  I^iiourrnuhicil  Ertor! -Eliiabeth,  Counleu  of  Llu- 
coln  — Duke  of  Uoumouth  —  Nstional  Chmcteiiatics — 
"ThePmlhwav  toCari»»ii"  — ThePlunt  B«tl  — Saiony  — 
Iho  ScoUish  IVajGr-Bonk—AdmiralSirBichardStiacEiau 

—  Sumune  of  Hope  —  Wimbome  Min>ter,lIM. 
EEPLIES:—  EtTtnoiOCT  of  "  Hurowgate ,"  *«  — HoKlh-  1 

not,  ZJ.  —  Ontho  TranemulaHon  of  Liquid*.  *ll)  —  Houie. 
liDK  Cloths  —  A  Colncldenco—  Llnoe  by  Andrt  ChlSnier  — 
"  AddrtBS  to  the  Mummy  "  — Garret  aod  GBmid  — "flar- 
sueit "  —  Baptism  for  tbe  D<sd  —  Bt.  Pcter'a  Churcb, 
Chestfr  -  Dio,  Dicft  —  "BphKi*  eujua  centrum,"  tc  — 
Lord  Broughamand  his  Maternal  Auocstom  —  UerildiO: 
■  Widow's  Armj  -  air  Colin  Campbell  aM  al  Inkermann  — 
Prwmasons  :  Odd- Fellowihip  -  "  Il'a  you'll  ttke  the  High 
Boad"-Sbakespeare:  "All's  Wall  Ibat  End's  Well"  — 
Rant-des-Vacboa  —  Novoltsta'  Flowere  —  "Gulta  0»«t 
lapidem  "  —  Iiish  Famlliea  —  Tbe  Litanry  Fo^erUa  of 


which  OiarlemagDe  coaaideted  as  little  better  than 
his  roma  (la  cambre). 
,      Ijnea  2503-2505 :  — 

"  Asez  savum  de  lajance  parier 
Dubt  XoslreSirefut  enlacniiznaffreti 
Carlta  ca  ad  I'amnre,  mercit  Dea  <. " 

The  slluaion  to  the  spear  with  which  our  Lord 
was  wounded  on  the  CTom  gives  M.  Ldon  Oautier 
the  opportunity  of  discussing  in  &  very  intereating 
Qote  the  legends  composed  on  the  relics  of  the 
Crucihiion.  The  famous  episode  of  the  Sangraal, 
in  the  cycle  of  the  Round  T&ble,  is  the  one  which  is 
mostgeaenllf  huowa;  but  the  Cftrlovinginn  poems 
have  also  their  own  traditinna;  and,  according  to 
the  Voyage  A  Jhmalem  ft  a  Constantinople,  Charle* 
.  ma^e  brought  back  from  the  Holj  Citj  the 
I  various  objects  connected  with  the  Passion,  and 
'  deposited  them  in  the  abbey  church  of  Bt  Denis. 
It  ia  rather  curious  that  the  apear  is  not  named 


M.   LEOS  GAUTIER-3  "CIIA.VSOS   DE 
ROLASD."  • 
Lines  3322-2332:  — 

"  -To  Ten  ctinqais  et  Aojon  ct  Bretaifpie ; 
Hi  Ten  cunquis  c  I'Maa  e  le  Mainei 
Jo  Ten  cunqiiis  Nartnendic  la  franibc ; 
Si  Ten  cuni|ui9  I'rDvencc  et  Eqnitai);ne  ; 
E  Lnnibanlie  e  trestute  Komalne; 
■To  I'eit  cunquii  RuTere  e  tute  FUndre; 
K  1b  DDguiKnc  t  trestute  Pnillanie ; 
Co^tantinnoUe.  dunt  il  ooc  la  Hancc, 
K  en  Sainonie  fait  il  90  qa'il  demandi't : 
.I0  Ten  cunqnis  Kscoce,  (jualen,  IblamlB 
E  Knglelerre  que  il  teneit  sa  cambr.;." 

Commenting  on  the  nbove  enumeration,  M. 
Gftutier  obaerves  that  we  artj  warranted  to  sup- 

{lose  that  a  number  of  CAansoni  de  Geste  have  been 
ost,  doicribing  Kolond's  conquests.  Some  of  the 
te.\t'!  which  still  exist,  either  in  print  or  in  MS.,  do 
no  more  tbnn  nJludc  to  these  warlike  expeditious. 
Thu?,  in  A'premonf,  Itoland  is  represented  helping 
Chnrleiiingiie  to  subdue  Apulia,  but  no  other  r<v 
maimt  ;roea  even  bo  far.  The  epithet  la  franche. 
Applied  to  N'ormundy,  confirms  our  nuthor  in  his 
opmiun  as  to  the  nationality  of  the  poem,  especially 
when  we  see  a  little  further  on  the  contemptuous 
;uann>;r  in  which  England  ia  treated  —  England 


as  forming  part  of  these  treasures:  the  Karia- 
maffHHt  Saga,  however,  reproducing,  no  doubt, 
another  French  tale,  says  distinctly  that  the  King 
of  Constantinople  made  to  the  King  of  St.  Denis 
a  present  of  the  holy  spear-head.  Charlemagne 
caused  the  relic  to  be  enchased  in  the  hilt  of  his 
sword,  which  he  ever  since  called  b;  tbe  name  of 

j  Gioeite — hence  the  war-cry  Mangeoij^  (Montjcne). 
The  Celtic  legend  has  not,  M.  Uautier  remarka, 

I  been  always  interpreted  By  critics  in  exactly  the 
same  manner.  Thua,  M.  de  la  Villemarqu6  throws 
back  the  tradition  respecting  the  spear  to  an 
epoch  considerably  older  than  the  beginnings  of 

,  Christianity.     M.  Paulin  Paris,  on  the  contrary, 

'  asaigna  to  it  a  distinctly  Christian  ori^n,  and 
maintuus  that  it  existed  as  far  back  as  uie  third 
or  fourth  century,  in  connection  with  an  apocrj- 

]  phal  life  of  Joseph  of  Arjmathea. 

I  If  we  may  believe  a  curious  tradition  related 
by  William  of  Malraesbury  (cf.  Pertr,  x.  400), 

I  Hugues  Capet  sent  to  Kthelstan,  King  of  England, 


•  Concluded  from  p.  234. 


was  tbe  very  one  thrust  by  the  Roman  centurion 
into  our  Lord's  side. 
Line  2662:  — 

"  Sur  I'ertM  verte  getcnt  un  palie  blanc." 

Paiie,  derived  from' f>>i//i«m,  has  here  tbe  sense  of 
carpet  Quoting  M.  Frandsque  Michel,  lUeh^hrt 
tur  le  commerce,  la  fabncalioH  el  ttuagt  det  Mofftf 
de  loie,  d'or  et  Sargent  (i.  276),  il.  Lcoa  Gautiei' 
observes  that  in  mediiETal  Latinity  the  substan- 
tive paliium  had  a  much  wider  meaning  than  its 
oripnal  one,  being  applied  to  designate  hangings 
and  tapestry  which  were  not  always  made  of  ailk. 
Thus  the  chronicler  Ingulph,  mentioning  the  gift 
made  by  Abbot  Egelric  (who  died  in  902)  of 
several  carpets  representing  lions  and  flowen,  goea 
ontaaa;— 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i*  8.  IX.  Hat  18,7s. 


qoKdim  plan 

Frankfort,  IGui,  p.  oca.  i.  ai^ 

Paiit  meant  any  kind  of  Talunble  textnre. 

AmODEst  the  numeroug  topics  which  can  be 
examiaea  a  propot  of  tbe  C/ianspn  ilf  Roland,  is  the 
important  one  of  penal  legislation.  SI.  I.ion  Gau- 
tier  analjscB  from  this  point  of  view  the  trial  of 
the  traitor  Gnneloi),  and  bu  no  difficulty  in  show- 
isg  that  tbe  Teutonic  origin  of  the  old  Chanton  dt 
Gutte  is  bere  abundantlj  confirmed.  Tbe  entire 
emtode  of  l.ianeloii'n  judgniant  might  be  sub- 
divided into  st'Ten  diUcrcnt  parts,  thus  designed: 
tbe  torture— tbe  rojal  plnnding — the  duel — the 
champions— the  macs  of  the  trial— tbe  death  of 
tbe  bostsf^s — tbe  death  of  Qanelon.  Whichever 
of  these  incidents  we  choose  to  consider,  we  nhnll 
find  evcrvwhere  the  iuHuence  ot  the  German 
legisUtion :  Romnn  or  canon  law  is  completely 
ignored.  Tbua,  the  preventive  ilopging  which  the 
tnutor  receives  is  a  peculiar  characteristic  of  the 
old  feudal  usages) :  it  is  a  form  of  chastisement 
consecrated  bj  the  laws  of  tbe  Wisigoths,  tbe 
Bavarians,  tbe  Tlurgundians,  the  Franks,  and  the 
Lombards.  (See  Uavoud-Oglou,  Jlitluire  <le  la 
Llgitlatitm  des  anciens  Gennams.) 

Again,  the  placitum  convened  by  Cbarlemagne 
ia  so  evidently  a  reminiscence  of  the  atiseinblies 
beld  during  the  first  two  races  of  French  kings, 
that  a  bare  mention  of  the  fact  seems  all  that  is 
necessary.  We  may  notice,  however,  that,  accord- 
ing to  the  Chaiiti/a,  laymen  alone  take  a  part  in 
the  proceedings,  whereas  the  members  of  the 
phK-Ua  were  always  prelates  as  well  as  leuiea. 
Every  province  of  the  empire  was  represented  in 
the  court  which  sat  to  try  Ganelon ;  and  amongst 
Charlemagne's  supporters  we  find  Bretons,  I'oi- 
teving,  Saiona,  Norman?,  French,  Germans,  people 
from  Auvergne,  &c.  Let  us  further  observe  that, 
in  tbe  Chanson,  in  close  confordiity  to  tbe  mode 
of  procedure  adopted  during  the  Merovingian  and 
Carlovingian  epochs,  the  emperor  enjoys  merely 
the  right  of  presiding  over  the  assembly  —  be. 
cannot,  on  any  account,  join  in  tbe  deliberation. 
"  Sfipiurs  laranf,  dist  CharlemV'Bs  I'  t<i^ 
I),:  Guenelun  kar  me  jugez  le  dreit." 
Charlemagne  states  clearly  tbe  whole  case, 
Ganelon  produces  freely  bis  defence,  the  barons 
side  almost  unanimously  witb  the  accused  war- 
rior, and  the  monarch  finds  himself  disarmed 
before  the  j  udges ;  — 

"  Quant  Carles  vdt  que  luit  lui  Hunt  failtit. 
Mult  IVubrnnc bit  e  la  cheree  le  vis. 
A  I'Joel  qu'il  ad  i\  ee  cUImet  caitil'." 
Once  more,  all  this  scene  is  essentially  Teutonic ; 
we   have  notbino-   here  which  reminds  us  of  a  i 
Roman  court     Tbe  tribiina],  when  the  president  | 
■    qaite  powerless,  could   be   none  otber  \h»1  » 


feudal  one,  such  u  tbe  Caj^tulariea,  the  UwB  ot 
the  Burgundians,  Saliana,  Itipuriana,  &c,  would 
reprewnt  it  to  us.  The  emperor  is  fottunktely 
relsBwd  from  his  difficulty  by  the  brother  of  tbe 
Duke  d'Anjou:  — 

'■  Cnrteiacinent  a  I'Smpertre  a  dlt : 
*  Bel  Sire  Keia,  ne  vu«  demenlei  si.'" 
Thus  says  Thierry,  and  he  challenges  to  singltt 
combat  the  traitor  Ganelon.     Here  no  doubt  can 
possibly  remain  as  to  the  nationality  of  the  judi- 
cial proceedinas.  The  trial  by  duel  was  eaaentiaUj 


sary  consequence  o 
that  —  "  Si  la  bataille  est  de  chose  qu'on  a  mort 
dcservi  et  le  c'nrant  est  vaincu,  il  et  cetta  pom- 
qui  il  a  fait  la  liataUte  teronl  pmdat."  This  text  i» 
from  the  Aaiset  de  J^utaletii  (xivii.  and  xdv.). 
and  we  muat  observe  that  tbe  earliest  rfdaetion  at 
tbe  code  of  laws  known  under  that  name  belongs 
at  least  to  the  same  epoch  as  the  Chmuon  d» 
Jioland. 

The  remarks  we  hate  thus  made  will,  ve  trust, 
(rive  to  tbe  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  some  alight 
idea  of  M.  L<.<on  Oaiitier*B  work,  and  show  tb» 
important  place  it  occumes  in  tbe  monuments 
raised  to  the  glory  of  old  French  literature. 

IlBiTow-on-the-Hill.  GuSTAVB  Mabsov, 


PAINTERS  TOXTESIPORARY  WITH  nOLBGI}^. 
At  a  moment  when  any  in  formation*  which  can 
be  afforded  respecting  the  painters  who  wer«  tbe 
contemporaries  of  Holbein  will  bo  useful,  the  fol- 
lowing Extract  from  an  ode,  addressed  by  Rooiaid 
to  a  French  painter  (ucl  poet  named  Deniiot,  may 
perhaps  lead  to  some  discovery.  Alluding  to  death, 
Ronsard  Bays  — 

"  Jnn  Pccnnd,  de  qui  la  gloire 
N'in  inmais  defiillant, 
£ut  conlru  die  la  vlcroirs 
Par  ctB  armta  rnsuilUnl : 
Dunt  la  main  indutlrieuM 
Anlmuit  inytusemf  nt 


Pour  ft! 

Kn  mil  feta  caulcnt  encurvn 
i'luH  dnax  que  I'nttJqiic  irki : 
Maif.  u  Drniiot,  qui  nl-co 

De  t'snanilre  ma  D^sHe, 
Et  sea  Lilondi  chcrvux  tortia  ? 

Qui  pourroit  bim  colortr 
La  maint^  de  la  grace 
Qui  me  force  a  I'adorer  7  " 

This  -'Jan  Second"  was  doubtless  the  second 
Jebannet  or  Jeannet  Clouet*    Are  any  of  bia 

[*  ThU  allusion  abowa  dearly  that  "  Jui  Second ''  wal 
not  Clooet,  tut  JsbannM  Stcundns,  lbs  wvU-knaws 
aa\\vn  <*  \Si»  BoBx^tn, "  H.  A  Q."l 


•4^  S.  IX.  Mat  18,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


401 


poems  known?  They  appear  to  have  borne  the 
title  of  Les  Baisers. 

Denizot  was  evidently  an  intimate  friend  of 
Ronsard,  as  the  latter  addressed*  another  long  ode 
to  him^  but  in  it  there  is  no  allusion  to  painting. 
The  portrait  of  Honsard,  of  which  there  is  an 
engraving  placed  in  the  edition  of  his  Odes,  Paris, 
1678,  may  be  by  Denizot.         Ralph  N.  James. 

Aahford,  Kent 

P.S. — Since  making  the  above  query  I  find  in 
another  ode  by  Ronsard,  of  which  the  first  verse 
is  ^'  Quand  les  filles  d'Achelois/'  some  further 
information  about  Denizot.  The  verses  are  too 
long  to  give  entire.  It  appears  from  tiiem  that 
Denizot  was  three  years  m  England,  where  he 
seems  to  have  acted  as  tutor  and  singing-master 
to  three  young  Englishwomen  whom  Ilonsard 
compares  to  the  Sirens.  One  of  them  was  pro- 
bably about  to  leave  England  for  France  when 
the  ode  was  written.  Wno  were  these  English 
Sirens  ? 

FOLK  LORE. 

A  Cure  for  a  Sore  Mouth.  —  A  woman  was 
going  recentlv,  in  Yorkshire,  to  a  medical  man 
with  her  childy  who  had  a  sore  moutb,  for  ad- 
Tice ;  and  on  the  way,  meeting  with  an  old  woman 
whom  she  knew,  told  her  her  errand.  The  old 
woman  told  her  to  go  back  home  and  obtun  a 
live  frog  and  put  it  into  the  child*s  mouth  and 
puU  it  out-  by  the  legs,  and  the  child  would  be 
cured ;  and  not  only  that,  but  that  ever  afterwards 
any  person  who  might  be  suffering  from  a  sore 
mouth  would  also  be  cured  Jf  her  child  shoold 
blow  its  breath  into  the  mouth  of  the  person  so 
afflicted.  S.  RiYHSB. 

The  Eve  of  May-dat.  —  You  may  go,  just 
before  dusk  on  the  eve  of  May-day,  into  a  field 
where  grows  the  hawthorn,  and  pluck  there- 
from a  small  sprig  of  Maj/^  in  bloom  if  pos- 
sible, but  in  the  bud  will  do  if  the  season  is  not 
sufficiently  advanced.  This  sprig  you  must  put 
into  your  mouth,  and  carry  it  in  that  manner  all 
the  way  home,  speaking  to  no  one  on  the  way,  no 
matter  whom  you  ma^  meet.  To  speak  would 
break  the  spell.  Arrivmg  at  home  you  enter  the 
house,  and  proceed  to  walk  upstairs,  backtotardt,  to 
your  bedroom ;  then  standing  with  ^our  back  to 
the  bed,  with  a  jerk  throw  the  spng  oyer^yoor 
left  shoulder  on  to  the  pillow.  Tms  done,  to  at 
once  to  bed,  placing  your  head  on  the  sprig,  x  our 
dreams  will  oe  of  the  person  who  is  destiiwd  to  be 
married  to  you.  The  above  is  a  piece  of  adyioe 
which  used  to  be  given  to  younff  people  in  Derby- 
shire, and  the  advice  frequently  took.  Mothsra 
who  had  a  sickly  child  were  sometimes  adTiaed, 
hj  those  who  knew,  to  take  the  child  out  early  on 
May^day  and  bathe  it  in  the  dew.  Thisjproceed- 
ing,  it  was  said,  would  strengthen  the  ewML  nd 


vastly  improve  its  health.  Girls,  as  we  all  know, 
used  to  bathe  their  faces  in  May-dew,  to  increase 
their  bloom  and  beauty.       -   Thos.  Katcliffe. 

Healtkg  by  the  Touch. — ^Reading  the  ''piece 
of  folk  lore  from  Meath  "  (p.  257,  tmti)  put  me 
in  mind  of  a  similar  superstition  in  DerDyshire. 
To  effect  cures  by  the  touch,  it  is  not  needful 
that  the  person  possesong*  the  facul^  shoold 
be  a  '^ seventh  son" — not  to  say  the  ^son  of  a 
seventh  son."  The  person  who  can  heal,  in  this 
manner  must  have  a  gentle,  soft  touch,  and  have 
the  knack  of  knowing  the  precise  spot  neces- 
sary to  be  touched  ta  effBCt  a  cure — ^tnat  iat,  as  I 
•have  been  told,  the  nerve  nearest  to  the  part 
afflicted.  Sprains,  gatherings,  toothaches,  rheu- 
matics, and  so  forth,  may  be  cmred  by  the  touch  of 
a  proper  person. .  I  do  not,  however,  know  the 
sleight  of  nand  necessary,  nor  do  I  know  any  one 
thusffifted;  butthe  suprntition  still  lingers,  aided 
by  the  imag^tkm.  The  belief  is  not  near  so 
prevalent  as  it  was  fifl^  yean  ago,  and  it  would 
very  likely  be  difficult  to  find  any  one  crediting 
the  snpexstition.  One  of  my  relatiyes  is  living 
who,  when  a  ddld,  had  her  wrist  touched  by  the 
^  charmist,"  to  cure  a  sprain,  to  the  immediate 
relief  of  the  pain  and  swelling.  There  is  a  sooth- 
ingness  experienced  from  the  touch  of  some  peo- 
ple's hands  which  certainly  will  ease  pain  at  times, 
and  from  this  ftot  no  dount  did  the  belief  arise  in 
ihe  efficacy  of  curing  pains  and  some  ailments  by 
this  simple  metiiod.  Thos.  Raioutfb.  - 

Weathxe  Lobb.— In  the  countjr  of  Rutland  I 
met  the  other  day  with  the  followmg  bit  of  folk- 
lore, which,  I  belieye,  has  not  yet  been  recorded 
in  these  pages : — ^If  in  handling  a  loaf  of  bread  you 
acddentally  break  it  into  two  parts,  it  is  a  dgn  - 
that  there  will  be  wet  weather  for  a  whole  week. 

CuTHBEBi  Beds. 

Customs  at  Sea. — 

JSmffinff-m  the  New  Year. — On  the  last  day  of 
last  year  1  was  cmidng  along  the  west  coast  of 
New  Zealattd,  in  one  of  the  fine  intercolonial ' 
steam-shins.  In  the  niirht  I  was  startled  from, 
sleep  by  toe' dash  of  beBs,  sounding  fore  and  alt 
Hastening  on  deck  to  find  out  the*oanse  of  this 
sudden  aurm,  I  met  one  of  the  hands  with  dark 
stolid  countenance,  violently  ringing  a  large  bell; 
till  desired  by  the  captain  to  ''stop  that  — — 
row.**  It  was  a  very  impoetical  renoeiing  of  one 
of  tiie  delightfiil  costoms  of  ''our  old  mother 
country,''  and  sent  me  back  to  mr  berth  some- 
what saddened,  as  I  xeoallsd  to  mud  the  scenes  . 
dT  jollity  and  mirth  that  marked  the  birth  of  the 
new  year  in  dear  old  Boglaiid  some  twenty 
yeaxB  ago. 

BuTjfmg  th0  JDead  Muree^^A  ^end  who  came 
out  htn^M  few  jmam  tiiiee,  gsye  me  a  note  on  tiie 
ihof^  eoiUm  macmgfA  wdkn.  The  shhp  had  bam 
out  ftom  port  •  nninfli.    loi  the  evupuig^  anda| 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«k  S.  IX.  Mat  18,  *7I. 


shouting  and  laughter,  a  strange  figure  (made  up 
of  sacking  stuffed  with  straw  or  shaTings),  bear- 
ing some  rude  resemblance  to  a  horse,  was  hoisted 
to  the  yardarm,  and  let  fall  into  the  sea.  This 
ceremony  was  to  note  that  the  month*s  "pay  in 
advance  to  the  seamen,  on  joimng  the  ship,  had 
been  cleared  off,  and  that  the  rest  of  the  voyage 
was  to  the  powl  Thomas  H.  Potts. 

Ohinitahi,  N.  Zealand. 

LANCAsniRE  Mat  Song. — The  following  has 
been  written  for  me  by  a  friend  from  the  dicta- 
tion of  a  regular  May -Sanger.  If  it  has  not  already 
appeared,  you  may  perhaps  think  right  to  pre- 
serve it  in  the  pages  of  "  N.  &  Q." :  — 
"  Fair  Flora  in  her  prime,  the  adomn  the  river's  ride, 
While  the  ficlihi  and  the  meadows  are  so  green ; 

The  little  birds  are  singing,  sweet  flowers  they  are 
springing. 

And  summer  covers  both  sea  and  land. 

*'  All  on  this  pleasant  morning  together  cometh  we, 
For  the  summer  it  springs  fresh,  green,  and  gay ; 
To  tell  you  of  the  blossoms  that  bloom  on  every  tree, 
Drawing  near  to  the  merry  month  of  May. 

•*  Arise !  the  master  of  this  house,  all  joys  to  you  betide, 
For  the  iHummer  comes  quite  fresh,  green,  and  gay ; 
May  lie  th.it  governs  all  things  ever  be  your  guide, 
Drawing  near  to  the  merrv  month  of  May. 

"  God  bless  your  wife  and  family,  your  riches  and  your 
store. 
For  the  summer  comrs  quite  fresh,  green,  and  gay ; 
\Vc  hope  the  Lord  will  i)rospcr  them,  both  now  and 
evermore. 
Drawing  near  to  tlio  mcrrj'  month  of  May. 

**  Arise !  the  maiden  of  this  house,  all  in  her  drei^s  of  blue, 
For  the  summer  comes  quite  fresh,  green,  and  gay ; 
And  unto  him  that  you  love  be:>t,  be  sure  that  you 
prove  true, 
Drawing  near  to  the  merrv  month  of  Mav." 

•     M.D. 

Mice  (4t»;  S.ix.  l:U.)— In  1840,  during  an  im- 
pending visitation  of  cholera,  I  was  at  a  village 
on  the  Coniish  coast,  near  the  eastern  boundarv 
of  the  county.  A  woman  of  about  thirty-five 
years  of  ago,  who  rould  read  and  write  fairly,  ox- 
pressed  her  appn^henJ»inn  of  the  cholera  proving 
fatal  to  hor,  she  being  then,  apparently,  in  perfect 
health,  and  no  known  case  of  cholera  withm  ten 
miles.  I  iiiquirrd  the  reason  of  her  expectation, 
and  with  fiome  air  of  mystery  she  informed  me 
"  she  had  sutMi  sonic  niic*\"  As  most  superstitions 
have  somo  atom  of  fact  in  which  they  originate,  I 
inquired  furtlicr,  and  was  tnld  that  "  her  grand- 
father whHU  thropliing-  corn  in  his  bam  liad  seen 
two  mice  L.)«>king  at  liim,  and  then  they  vanished, 
and  he  wont  in  and  ttmk  to  his  bed,  and  died 
within  the  week."  Has  this  superstition  about 
mice  anything  in  common  with  that  storj*  told  as 
a  note  to  the  May-day  night  scene  in  Fausf,  in 
Hay  ward's  prose  translation,  p.  205,  4th  ed.  Lon- 
don, 1847  ?  G.  M.  E.  C. 


HAIR  POWDER  AND  CUES. 

Quartermaster  John  Core,  of  the  Bojal  l^^mw 
Regiment  of  Militia,  has  published  an  historiod 
record  of  that  corps  from  its  embodiment  in  1798 
to  the  present  time.*  The  foUowing  extracti 
from  the  regimental  '^  orders  of  the  day  "  conoeoaH 
ing  hair  powder  are  curious. 

Strebane,  Sept.  28,  1703  :— 

"  Commanding  ofricers  of  com|Mmie8  will  five  partieolAr 
orders  to  their  men  this  evening,  that  tiieir  haln  an 
well  combed,  and  the  sides  and  foretop  pomatnmod,  aid 
the  tails  uniformly  tied  close  to  the  bead.  As  thtt  bmb 
will  appear  powdered  at  the  review,  the  officen  will  bt 
particularly  careful  on  this  point,  and  the  old  seigeuds 
very  particular  to  instruct  their  men.** 

Feb.  3,  1704  :— 

**  A  greater  attention  most  be  paid  to  the  tjiaff  taA 
powdering  of  the  men*s  hair.  The  powder  most  be  odte 
mixed  in  the  hair,  and  the  mark  of  the  teeth  of  the 
comb  appear  on  the  back  of  the  head,  and  on  the  chdl^ 
by  drawing  the  comb  downwards  on  the  hair.  GnU 
attention  must  be  paid  not  to  have  the  powder  laid  an  ii 
clots." 

The  following  year  the  regiment  was  stationed 
in  Gal  way ;  order  of  the  day,  March  8,  1705 : — 

**  As  the  evening  parades  of  the  regiment  will  be  tk» 
resort  of  the  military  and  the  ladies  to  admire  the  Tftam 
boys,  the  Lieut.-Colonel  expecta  the  men  will  oobm  i^ 
markably  clean,  as  well  as  in  the  mornings — ^tbe  hair  to- 
be  well  powdered,  neat  and  well  done,  and  the  aho«  tNB 
blacked." 

Cork,  Sept.  16, 1790:— 

*'The  repment  beinj;  now  complete  with  ca«^  ttt 
officers  in  examining  their  oompaniea  at  momii^  mA 
evening  parades  were  to  give  the  greatert  attention  pi^ 
sible  to  the  manner  in  which  the  men  drened  their  hilL 
and  to  punish  every  neglect  The  men  were  to  be  as  wm 
powdered  at  cverj'  e^-ening  parade  as  at  the  momiii^ 
The  officers  are  to  take  particular  care  that  their  an* 
were  not  too  far  from  the  head,  and  that  the  whole  Mt 
.tied  at  the  same  distance,  and  that  the  cnet  are  at  d 
times  well  polished." 

In  the  autumn  of  1700  there  eeema  to  Ihw 
been  a  very  general  failure  of  the  com  harvest  b 
Ireland,  for  on  Xov.  12  the  following  circulsrvst 
addressed  to  Lieut.-Gen.  Lake,  who  was  in  can- 
niand  of  the  troops  in  the  Cork  district  irhen  ti^ 
Tvrone  militia  then  was : — 

» 

'<  1  nm  directed  by  His  Excellency  the  Lord  TiinnHwist 
to  desire  that  you  will  give  immediate  orders  to  the  troni 
under  your  command,  to  discontinue  the  use  of  yemmt 
or  flour  until  farther  order^  the  late  general  bad  haivMl 
having  rendered  this  measoie  indispensable. 
**  I  have,  drc.  &c., 

*'  G.  NuoBST,  A<Q.-GcMnL" 

Three  davs  afterwards  the  followiiur  otdsr  If* 
peared :  Cork,  Nov.  15, 1700,  Lient-GoL  BmA* 
ton  being    now  in   conmuuid  of  the  il^i— t 
directs — 
"  that  ....  the  attention  and  earlj  rttHn^anai  of  4 


officers  at  morning  and  evening  paradis  is  new 
sary  than  ever,  in  cooseqneBoe  « the  soi 


I 


•  Printed  by  Al^  Seaili  t,  Ofena||^  Ittft 


Ah'^ 


4«>8.IX.  Mat  16. '7-2-] 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


403 


powder.  The  officers  are  directed  to  pay  great  attention 
to  the  dreas  of  the  men's  liair  without  powder — that  it  is 
tide-lacks  let  eroiF  longer, 


ITCII  put 


closer  to  Uie  head  llian  vtitli 

In  July,  1803,  tlie  sergenots  of  the  regimeut 
■were  pranted  the  indulgence  of  being  allowed  to 
drefi  tlieir  hair  with  soap,  but  they  were  warned 
nt  the  iiame  time  "that  no  excuse  would  be  taken 
for  their  hair  not  beinp'  dreaeed  according  to  the 
pattern  shown  nii  thai  day's  parade."  Truly  the 
soldiers  of  those  davs  had  ot  least  one  eerioua 
grieTonce.  '  \V.  H.  P. 


HALKKTT'S  •■  DICriOSARY  OF  ASOSYMOUS  & 
PSEUDOXYUOLS  LITERATUllE  OF  GREAT 
BRITAIN." 

(pROBPKCTTS  AM)  SpKciirK^.  Edinbui"h  ;  \V.  Paterson, 

On  p.  271  of  this  volume  you  annouaccd  the 
proposed  publication  of  the  aboTe  worli,  which  I 
observe  is  to  be  in  quarto,  but  aa  to  the  proposed 
size  I  will  Bay  no  luore  now  fhim  that  I  think  it 
would  be  much  better  in  double  columns,  octavo, 
as  I  believe  the  editors  still  bare  tbnt  under  con- 
sideration. Certaiuly  octavo  is  far  the  most  popu- 
lar size,  and  one  adopted  f'>r  all  the  staiidard 
French  workn  of  tiiis  class.  Book-buyers  already 
look  upon  quartos  as  nearly  as  bad  aa  one  of  the 
enormous  old  folios,  which  few  ever  think  of  buy- 
inc  now  unless  for  a  public  library. 

The  specimen  itscll  is,  however,  almost  all  that 
could  be  desired,  and  if  the  whole  work  ia  carried 
out  like  it  we  shall  hare  a  most  valuable,  and  I  may 
aay  indispensable,  work  of  reference.  The  ta^ 
the  editors  have  undertaken  is  most  onerous  indeed. 
It  ia  confitautly  asserted  by  compilers  and  biblio- 
graphers that  no  one  knows  the  incessant  labour 
during  a  series  of  years  such  an  undertaking  re- 
quires but  those  who  have  tried  it,  and  this  is 
true;  and  our  thauks  and  those  of  all  literary 
students  will  be  due  and  most  heartily  given  to 
the  editors  for  their  self-impa«ed  labour. 

Aa  1  have  lind  numerous  observations  made  to 
me  upon  the  subject,  1  may  say  that  Mr.  Halkett'a 
worif  does  not  in  the  least  interifere  with  the  Hand' 
book  i/f  fictitifiiis  Xante',  which  is  only  intended 
to  include  works  of  the  nineteenth  century,  whereas 
Mr.  Ilalkeit's  begins  from  the  beginning. 

My  obji'ct  in  writing  this  note  ia  to  direct  atten- 
tion to  the  proposed  publication  of  this  great 
work :  and  I  appeal  to  '■  N,  &  Q."  for  its  great  in- 
fluence and  supjinrl  with  faiioo  confidence,  aa  the 
Dictionarv  niav  almost  be  arid  to  be  bom  of  it. 
From  the  very"  first  number,  published  in  1840,  to 
the  present  time  has  this  journal  suggested,  advo- 
cated, encouraged,  and  more,  helped  and  fostered 
sucli  a.  work.  And  let  us  hope  that  luck  wiil  at 
last  Bttend  the  publication,  and  that  it  will  fit- 
tingly represent  Mr.  Halketfs  great  reputation  oa 


a  linguist,  a  librarian,  and  a  bibli<^TapbeT.  'Wt 
hare  all  helped  from  time  to'time,  and  added  oar 
brick  to  the  edifice ;  though  one  in  twenty  thou- 
sand does  not  seem  much,  vet  it  was  the  help  that 
WHS  vnluable,  and  it  ia  help  that  the  lenrupd  and 
literary  ore  now  asked  to  give  to  aid  the  mechani- 
cal production  of  that  to  which  they  have  intel- 
lectually contributed.  I  am  informed  that  a 
printed  list  of  subscribers,  comprising  the  names 
of  numerous  eminent  persons,  will  shortly  be  pub- ' 
liahed,  and  those  who  aeud  in  their  names  at  once 
will  be  included  therein. 

I  do  hope  that  Mr.  Uolkett's  untimely  and 
lamented  death  will  not  prove  'anch  a  national 
loss  as  to  deprive  Engli^  literature  of  the  publi- 
cation of  this  work.  Olfhae  IIaust. 
New  llainet,  Herts. 


AjiEiticANisifs :  "Collihe"  iBi>  "Telescop- 
ing."— The  following  remarks  appeared  in  The 

Oh^rrrr  uf  April  13,  1872 :  — 

"  The  Americanism  'collide,'  though  really  a  UKefiil 
woidif  wecnuld  overcome  our  antipathy  to  its  etymology, 
haa  not  made  much  progreaa  in  England  And  (he  date 
of  ila  attempted  introdnctioQ.  In  the  mean  vliile  Ameri- 
c»n  newBpaper  wrilen,  whilst  making  abuti'dant  nse  of 
the  word,  have  fonnd  it  iBSuSdent  for  theii  [equiRmenU 
and  have  invsnted  another,  or  rniher  have  taken  an 
English  noun  and  turned  it  into  an  American  verb.  The 
nonn  is  '  telescope,' and  we  read  in  lo  respectable  ajourna) 
aa  the  Nrv  Fork  Tivui  ot  an  'engine  coming  np  and 
telescoping  two  ears.'  To  'telescope'  a  car  ia,  we  gather 
ftom  the  coDtext,  to  run  in  from  behind  with  anch  force 
at  to  cause  one  or  more  can  to  mount  on  the  top  of  the 
other  cars  to  which  they  are  attached.  Tho  very  length 
of  the  deSnition  snggests  the  □ecesslty  for  a  single  word 
descriptive  of  an  incident  not  possihk  in  ths  birth  period 
of  the  English  langasge.  But  'telescope'  will  not  do." 
*  Charles  Vivian. 

S2,  Stanley  Slrcel,  9.W. 

AxMAiTDRE  DrstAS. — The  plain  inscription  of 
Alexandre  Dumas'  monument  la  "Alexandre  Du- 
mas, 1802-1870,"  on  the  marble  slab  which  covers 
his  tomb  and  his  father's,  General  Dumas,  Marquia 
Davy  de  la  PaiUeterie.  The  burial  place  is  in 
the  middle  of  the  cemetery  of  '\'ilIers-Cotteret8, 
between  four  tall  and  sombre  pines.  [Morrtmg 
AdveHimr,  April  96, 1872.)      Charles  Viviah. 

52,  Stanley  Street,  S.W. 

PortTLAS  Names  of  Flowebs,  btc.  —  The 
CbeiratUvM  (wall-flower)  is  called  by  the  Russians 
"wall-violet."  The  Germans-have  a  very  poetical 
name  for  the  laburnum ;  'they  call  it  "  golden 
rain."  A  Mubithiam. 

Parallel  Passaob  jh  TiBiTLLTrB  akd  Di. 
■Watts'b  "  Httmns."— In  the  poems  of  TibuUtis 
occnis  the  following  beantilul  passage,  as  ia 
sitppoaed  IB  reference  to  Glycere,  the  "  Immitia 
Olycene  "  of  the  bard,  aa  she  is  called  by  Iloroca. 
Bat  ncoording  to  John  Newtoa,  the  rector  of  St. 
Mary  Woolnoth  and  the  Mend  of  Cowper,  it  iA 


404 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4^S.IX.Mat1B^71 


wrong  to  apply  such  language  to  any  creature  on 

earth ;  it  is  only  suitable  to  tne  Supreme  Being : — 

"  Sic  ego  secretis  possum  bene  vivere  sylvis, 
Qua  nulla  humano  sit  via  trita  pecte. 
Tu  mihi  curarum  requies,  tu  nocte  yel  atra 
Lumen,  et  in  solis  tu  mihi  turba  locis." 

Lib.  iy.  Carm.  13,  v.  9  et  seq. 

Amongst  Watts's  Hymm  are  the  following 

lines : — 

**  JJv  God,  the  spring  of  all  my  joys, 
Yhe  life  of  my  ddights, 
The  glory  of  my  brightest  days, 
And  comfort  of  my  nights. 

-    **  In  shades  .of  night  if  thou  appear 
My  dawning  is  begun  ; 
Thou  art  my  soul's  bright  morning  star, 
And  thou  my  setting  sun.'* 

Perhaps,  after  all,  there  may  be  but  an  un- 
designed coincidence,  though  the  similarity  is 
remarkable.  Tom  Moore  renders  the  passage 
from  the  beautiful  elegiac  Latin  poet  in  the 
following  happy  way : — 

"  Charm  of  my  life,  by  whose  sweet  power 
All  cares  are  hushed,  all  ills  subdued  ; 
MyJight  in  e'en  the  darkest  hour. 
My  crowd  in  deepest  solitude." 

John  Pickford,  M.A. 

Hard  Labour. — Scarcely  a  day  passes  in  Eng- 
land without  the  sessional  or  police  report  of 
ofienders  sentenced  to  imprisonment  with  hard 
labour :  an  appendage  continually  laughed  at  by 
some  incorrigible  rogue  or  ruifian,  who  boasts  his 
being  able  to  *'  do  it  standing  on  his  head.*' 

They  manage  these  matters  better  in  Austria. 
An  officer  of  high  rank  in  its  service  described  to 
me  the  other  day  its  mode  of  dealing  therewith : 
the  delinquent's  '^  hard  labour''' affecting  not  his 
head  but  his  heels.  For  a  certain  number  of  days, 
and  of  hours  in  each  day,  he  is  set  in  some  lonely 
and  silent  spot,  between  two  short  pillars,  hol- 
lowed cup-fashion,  about  three  or  four  yards 
apart,  with  a  cannon-ball-  in  his  hands ;  which,  at 
the  mute  signals  of  a  sentry  placed  over  him,  he 
deposits  in  one  of  these,  liits  up  again,  faces 
roimd,  and  marches  with  to  the  other — repeating 
this  mild  manoeuvre  without  word  or  pause  till 
the  penal  time  shall  have  expired.  My  friend 
told  me  how  dreaded  was  this  mindless,  mean- 
ingless punishment,  by  the  Austrian  soldiery. 
Would  it  not  be  well  to  make  experiment  of  it 
(not  forgetting  "  the  cat ")  among  the  homebred 
infesters  of  our  homes  and  highways  P  If,  as  the 
intelligent  authoress  of  Prison  Characters  avers, 
the  light  labour  of  oakum-picking  or  mat-making 
is  more  painful,  even  to  our  female  ofienders, 
than  scrubbing  stairs  and  floors,  how  much  more 
painfully  would  this  monotonous  do-nothing,  this 
opus  inoperosumj  aflect  the  spirits  of  active  stal- 
wart men — reserving  the  satisfaction  of  up  and 
be  doing  for  the  encouragement  of  honest  industry ! 
«  K.  L.  S. 


Irish  PRoynroiALiSHS. — ^I  haye  latelj  picked 
up  the  following  North-of-Ireland  expnenoiUi 
the  origm  of  which  I  ehooU  yery  miui  like  to 
know : — 

1.  Of  anything  very  wonderful — "  That  bangs 
Banagher,  and  Banagher  beats  the  world." 

Now  why  should  JBanagher  (a  town-land  in  the 
CO.  Londonderry)  be  invincible  P 

2.  <<  As  black  as  Tode's  cloak." 

Perhaps  this  should  be  "  a  toad's '!  or  "  Todd's" 
cloak,  but  I  have  g^yen  it  exactly  as  I  haye  al- 
ways heard  it. 

3.  '^  As  great  a  liar  as  the  dock  of  Strabane." 
Why  should  the  public  timepiece  of  Strabane 

be  selected  as  remarkable  for  mendacity  P 

I  have  also  sometimes  heard  a  large  pin  eaUed 
a  *'  great  stab."    Can  anyone  illustrate  tneee  P 

H.  S.  Skipiov. 

Tivoli  Cottage,  Cheltenham. 

Meaning  op  the  Word  "  Oss,"  or  "  Obsx."' 
In  The  Athenauni  of  April  20  appeared  a  paza- 
graph,  signed ''  J.  E.,"  on  the  deriyation  of  om: 
a  word  used,  as  the  writer  states,  in  north  Shzop- 
sbire,  and  bearing  the  meaning  of  trying,  or 
attempting  to  do  something.  I&  quotes  ^urts- 
home  for  ausse,  oss,  to  attempt,  essay,  try  at,  fte, 
and  says  it  has  been  conjectured  to  come  from 
the  Latin  audeo,  ausus;  but  he  himself  t^nm**^ 
that  there  can  be  little  doubt  that  it  springs  from 
the  Welsh  osi,  which  means,  to  offer  to  do^  to 
attempt.  Now  I  have  long  been  familiar  irith 
this  word,  which  is  in  common  use  in  Staffoid-  • 
shire  and  Warwickshire.  I  have  always  hand 
it  pronounced  orse,  but  I  have  no  doubt  that  it  is 
the  same  word.  In  those  counties  it  has  the 
additional  and  more  usual  meaning  of  begiiminff-* 
making  a  first  attempt,  and  so  forth.  Afiriradof 
mine,  a  great  searcher  after  etymologieSi  oooft-i 
dently  derived  the  word  from  the  Latin  ordfer, 
part,  orsus;  and  I  quite  agreed  with  him.  So  it  is 
very  commonly  said,  that  such  a  man  oned  weU; 
meanbg,  that  he  began  well|  or  attempted  weU. 

f:o.h. 

The  Song  of  '<  The  Tboubadoub"  of  Movxt 
Vesuvius. — Signer  K.  B.  Tomi  of  Leghoniy  in  a 
letter  to  the  Swiss  Times,  dated  the  ISQi  of  Apnlt 
sends  the  following  very  literal  rendering  ai  tks 
song,  with  which  ul  tourists  to  Mount  Vesurioi 
are  greeted  by  ''  The  Troubadonr  "  on  airiyii^  at 
the  *'  Hermitage  " :  — 


<*  In  the  shadows  of  Yesavins  rit  some 


tindaad 


sore; 


They  are  wc1com*d  to  the  mountain  1^  the  wanderinff 

troubadoar : 
He  sleeps  within  the  crater,  and  looks  so  loan  and  Uak, 
And  sings  the  same  old  soiuf  all  day  for  a  alogle  ftaiol 

A  chinking  franc !  a  ohinlring  franc  I  . 

Give  the  troubadour  so  lank  I 

If  not,  he  will  you  thank 

For  even  half  a  franc! 


taS.IX.UATlS.TSO 


NOTES  AND  QUEMES. 


■m 


"  TIm  lis&rdii  mil  are  ilMping,  the  reative  pUchi  biUoff ; 
The  moanlatn'a  in  emptloa,  the  cocckitri  fighting  I* 
Then  give  me  a  single  tnnc,  and  let  me  go  ifir, 
To  Btrnm  to  other  pilgrime  «  tnn*  on  my  old  golUl. 
A  chinking  franc  1  a.  chinking  franc  t 
Give  tbe  troab«doar  ao  Uok  I 
If  not,  he  will  yon  thuik 
Foi  CTeo  half  •  fMmcl " 

VUTOK  (1-) 

T.  Fabd's  Pioxurk  or  "Sra  Waltke  Soott 
suBBOimsBD  BT  BIS  FoiBHse." — Thu  celebnted 

S'ctaie,  diflposed  of  at  the  recent  sale  of  QUlott'a 
>llectioQ  Tor  610  guinetu,  cuinot  be  atjied  hu- 
torical,  u  the  autEora  and  ardata  therein  poi^ 
tr&jed  never  met  together  under  the  hoafutkble 
roof  of  the  illustrious  author.  It  14^  therefore, 
pnrelj  an  imagioarj  awemblj.  The  namei  meo- 
tdonod  are— Sir  D.  Wilkie,  Sir  W.  Alkn,  T.  Oamp- 
bell,  Tom  Moore,  Sir  W.  Feignaon.  Woidsworth, 
Frofeseor  Wilron,  Lord  Byron,  Sir  A.  Conatable, 
Bev.  G.  Cr»bbe,  H.  Mackeniie,  uid  Hogg.  Now 
James  Hogg,  the  Ettrick  Shepherd,  w»  flrct  in- 
trodnoed  to  Thomas  Campbell  the  autJioi  of  the 
Fteaturet  of  Hope,  at  a  literary  party  at  my  hooae 
in  Waterloo  Place  in  the  year  18S2.  On  DV  pro- 
senting  the  Shepherd  to  the  poet  as  Hr.  Cuip- 
'bell,  he  exclaimed:  "There  u  only  one  Oamp- 
bell  in  the  world,  and  that's  Tom  CampheU."  To 
which,  in  high  glee,  the  latter  reapomfed:  "And 
there's  only  one  Hogg  in  the  world,  and  that's 
Jamie  Hog^."  Jauxs  Gochbixx. 

l^ceater  Hooae,  LisUIL 


the  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q."  render  me  soma  aid  in 
this  matter  P  Misereres  are  known  by  me  to  vbA 
in  oar  own  country  in  the  Cathedrds  of  Briitfo^ 
Carlisle,  Cheater,  Chichester,  Elr,  Exeter,  Qlo«' 
oester,  Hereford,  Lincoln,  MaoijiestBr,  Noiwie^ 
Oxford,  Eipon,  Wella,  Winchttter,  and  Wn- 
ceater.  I  have  notes  upon  the  leriea  at  Exeto^ 
Qloaceeter,  Hetetbrd,  Norwidi,  Bipon,  ud  W«>- 
cwter,  and  f.  poawas  pbotogr«ihB  only  of  Ui* 
Worceeter  aeriea.  BGaeterM  olao  remain  in  Oe 
following  dmrchea  asd  dhapela  :—Weatinuiitw 
Abbey  fHeaiy  Vnth's  Ch^)i  St.  Qmgi* 
Cbiq)el,  Windaor;  Winoheiter  School  ChsMl; 
BeTerlej  Wnatar,  St  Uaiy'a,  Bererley :  Bomob; 
Cluiatcourch,  Hints  <  Ludlow  <  Eirura  Lym  t 
Oteat  Ualvem ;  MudatoDe ;  ttia  chnrchea  of  St. 
irwidii 

injiiiwr^Mi  U19  A«io  uL    I  iinmn  i  dw  nmxvtatf  ufAf 

ceater :  Nantwioh :  the  Chrael  of  AH  8on]s  Ool-   . 
legejOz&od;  St  Oennan'i^ Cornwall;  Sasbona; 
SoDthwark:  Sttatford-on-ATOB ;  Watoflald,  nl 
Whalley  Aobey:  of  these  I  have  notea  npoa  flu 
•nies  at  "    ■      "  '  —  ■'  ■        «.    ..    . 

on^TOOf 
Ludlow. 


BoatoQ.  Halmu,  Haidatoi^  E 

and  Wakefl^  and  I  pmpose  to  iUH 

"  am  partwnlarij  dedioua  to  aseartaiB 


HISBRERE  CABV1NQ8. 
I  have  in  preparatjon  a  work  on  the  Early 
Sculptures  and  Carvings  in  Worceatar  Cathedral, 
to  be  illustrated  by  jihotoffraphs,  about  one  hnu' 
dred  in  number,  pnnted  ny  a  permanent  prooeaa 
from  negatives  uiat  for  the  first  time  have  bean 
taken  from  the  originals,  and  taken  expreaaly  tat 
this  work.  The  entire  seriee,  thirty~seven  in 
number,  of  the  original  Muttvrei  (a  J>.  137S-1890) 
in  this  cathedral  will  constitute  an  important  >eo- 
tion  of  my  volume :  and  it  has  been  urcred  npoa 
me  to  endeavour  to  discuss  somewhat  rally  tho 
general  subject  of  Miserere  Carvings,  as  inttoduo- 
tory  to  my  particular  notioea  of  the  Worceatei 
examples.  In  order  to  accomplish  thit^  I  am  now 
both  examining  varioua  aeriea  of  these  remarkable 
and  moat  interesting  relica  of  early  ar^  and  aeek- 
ing  for  information  concerning  them.  One  of  my 
greateat  difficulties  consists  in  ascertuning  wjlara 
any  original  Mitereret  are  atill  in  existenee.    '^11 


*  The  metre  is  the  Mme  u  the  origin^  one;  bat  In 
rinsing  the  Hoand  veiw,  it  will  be  bettu  to  nM'Uts" 
aod''igbt"  Instead  of  Uie  doable  rhymsa.  Igtve^ii 
bint  to  tonriBta  who  have  caoaM  the  ton^  and  mAom 
tbapaloiUslaoI  ^ 


any  example*  nbt  isdaded  in  the  foieg^ng  list: 
all  notea  and  notioea  also  will  ]w  of  tb  giaataat 

^nbe  Worearier  aerias  incdndea  two  axanmlaa  (I 
Mifdoaa  photogiwha  of  tlwm  &r  die  editor  of 
"  N.  ft  qT'*)  wl^^I  {teeefd  to  deacrib^  In  Oa , 
liope  tliat  I  m^  obt^  at  aAj  lato  soma  anggaa- ' 
tiooB  as  to  thdr  real  meaoing. 

1.  Figure,  beardless,  in  loose,  flowiiw,  ao^liw- 
like  robe,  with  large  open  aleerea,  Siaa  wULA 
protmde  the  tight  aleevea  of  «a  tmder  garment;  a 
very  1k^  hood  alao  covers  the  head,  and  haasa 
down  over  tlia  ahoaldran.  This  fipire,  iaatad, 
apparently  <ui  a  aliort  beoeli,  of  which  tke  end  that 
is  viidble  Aaa  dabotate  ardateotoial  earring,  hoUa 
in  the  right  hand  a  pw,  with  which  he  (raa^)  ia 
;  in  the  act  of  writii^  in  a  ven  large  book  mnad 
!  open  npcai  alectsm:  and  with  the  left  haM  te 
figure  ia  tondung  a  email  olgect  that  i>  kaU  ia  tiw 
b««k  of  alarge  Inrd— nerhuM  an  eagla— vhiek  i^Uk 
droopng  w&m  stanoa  at  Ita  feet  Jo  the  Mt  <f 
flying  npwaida,  above  the  knees  of  the  aaatad  ' 
figore^  ik  another  Uid,  ofamallaiie,w]iidkbaiUa 
bpad  in  the  mondi  of  some  creatnrsu  haviitt  a 
cellar  about  its  neck,  iiamng  frma  tha  kood  ^tha 
seated  flgnre  inst  above  the  left  nSbaw.  The  aap- 
portera,  or  doe  compodtiona^  ai^  the  dexter,  a 
maiil}lDf[tnideiatiee;  and,  Ae  diiiater,.a  wa^; 
nner  (his  head  nov  Bcma),  earing,  l^  a  stiff 
orer  Ua  ahonlda]^  a  nbU^  while  aaother  nbltt 
is  haalilj  entaifaig  Ita  b&cnnrjaada  uaalMS 
padbna  a  ftnvt,' eonliig  oat  ef  notlMK '  bmrapM. 
btoSa  Mt  ofMJSgft  ti>U  atttb 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«i>  S.  IZ.  Mat  li^  "Tf. 


.  2.  Figure,  uncertain  whether  the  figure  of  a 
man  or  a  woman,  but  probably  the  latter,  nude, 
but  covered  with  a  net  of  large  open  meshes,  which 
is  adjusted  after  the  manner  of  a  garment.    This 
figure,  having  long  waving  hair  parted  down  the 
middle  of  the  head,  is  riding;  on  a  very  large  goat, 
grasping  one  of  its  horns  (the  other  horn  is  gone) 
with  its  right  hand,  vfhile  with  its  left  hand  it 
holds  under  the  net  a  rabbit    This  figure  also  is 
represented  with  its  right  foot  on  the  ground,  its 
left  leg,  which  is  next  to  the  spectator,  being 
drawn  up  on  the  back  and  the  side  of  the  ^oat. 
The  supporters  are  grotesque  human  faces,  m)m 
which  issue  bunches  of  foliage.     This  singular 
composition  has  been  compared  with  a  miserere  in 
Norwich  Cathedral  (figured  in  Norfolk  Archce- 
doffia,  ii.  251,  and  also  a  woodcut  by  0.  Jewitt 
in  Murray's  Ilandbook)^  in  which  a  man,  probably 
a  huntsman,  is  seated  on  a  stag,  holding  one  of  its 
antleis,  wearing  what  appears  to  be  ''  a  reticulated 
coat,*'  and  havmg  under  his  left  arm  a  small  dog ; 
other  dogs,  certainly  hounds,  also  surround  the 
central  group.     I  have  not  yet  been  able  to  ascer- 
tain whether  this  miserere  has  been  photographed, 
nor  have  I  such  certain  information  as  would 
enable  me  to  determine  whether  this  man  is  carry- 
ing a  net  over  his  garments,  or  is  wearing — ac- 
cording to  the  Norfolk  ArcJuBologia — a  garment 
made  of  some  netlike  fabric  or  with  a  reticulated 
pattern.     My  friend  Mr.  James  Fowler  of  Wake- 
field has  directed  my  attention  to  a  capital  near 
Archbishop  Scrope's  tomb  in  the  choir  at  York,  in 
which  is  sculptured  a' man  covered  "vvith  a  net, 
riding  on  a  j^oat,  which  ho  holds  by  one  of  its  ! 
horns,   and  joining  in  the  pursuit  of  a  hare  or  ! 
rabbit,  with  a  greyhound  and  another  dog.    In  j 
this  composition  several  trees  are  introduced,  and 
on  a  bough  of  one  of  them  is  seated  a  king, 
crowned,  and  with  a  drawn  sword,  "  as  though 
watching  the  sport."    The  Worcester  subject  has 
been   considered    to  represent  a    woman    doing 
penance  for  incontinence  ;  but  is  there  known  to 
oe  any  documentary  evidence  to  show  that  such  a 
penance  was  ever  instituted  or  undergone  ? 

May  I  also  ask  for  authenticated  examples  of  a 
fox  preaching  to  geese,  a  hare  riding  on  a  homid 
fas  at  Worcester),  a  cat  hanged  by  mice  or  rats 
(as  at  Malvern))  or  other  subjects  of  the  same 
retributive  order  ?  Communications,  if  hot  given 
in  the  form  of  "  Replies  "  in  "  N.  &  Q.,"  will 
reach  me  if  addressed  to  Mr.  Aldis,  Photographer, 
High  Street,  Worcester.         Charles  Boutell. 


Abbots  op  Whallet  and  Sawley.  —  There 
appears  to  be  much  confusion  relative  to  the  i 
exact  dates  when  the  last  abbots  of  Whalley  and 
Sawley  were  executed.  Dr.  Whitaker  in  his 
Whalleij  says  that  John  Paslew,  the  last  abbot  of 
Whalloy,  was  executed  on  March  12,  153S  j  and 


that  William  Trafford,  the  last  abbot  of  Scwftey, 
had  suffered  two  days  before,  or  March  10, 163|w 
Thia  is  somewhat  varied  in  Whitaker's  Oowr, 
where  it  is  stated  that — ^'Fr.  Wil.  Trafford,  capi- 
tali  afiectus  supplicio  a.d.  1537."  In  Harlana*s 
Sawley  Abbey y  p.  42,  we  find  that  "  Trafford  suf- 
fered capital  punishment  by  hanging  at  Lancaster 
in  1537-8,"  and  this  agrees  with  what  is  stated 
by  Stevens  in  his  Continuation  of  the  Momtdieom^ 
ii.  40,  who  put  the  event  as  happening  in  153& 
In  the  Coucher  Book  of  Whalley  Alheyjivn  1175, 
there  is  an  entry  to  the  effect  tlmt  ''  The  Abba  of 
Whalley  was  put  down  anno  regius  28  HeDiid 
octa^,  anno  domini  1537."  From  the  Coi»A$r 
Book  it  appears  that  the  real  dissolution  took 

Slace  in  1539,  the  estates  being  sold  Amil  IS  to 
ohn  Braddyll,  Esq.  Richard  Follard,  JSaq.,  tiie 
king*s  surveyor.  Came  down  and  let  the  demenei^ 
the  first  half-year's  rent  being  due  Michac^mu^ 
1537 ;  so  that  Braddyll  was  first  tenant  and  thea 
owner.  What  then  fure  the  true  dates  to  be  affixed 
to  these  several  transactions  ? 

T.  T.  WiLxmoK. 

Battle  oy  Buxkeb's  Hill. — Are  theze  asy 
recognised  portraits  in  Trombull^s  picture  of  tUi  * 
battle,  engraved  bv  J.  G.  Miiller,  and  published 
1798,  by  A.  C.  de  toggi,  New  Bond  Street? 

H.  D.  a 

[There  was  doubtless  a  key  tx)  MiUler's  print  of  "Ite  < 
Battle  of  Jhinker'8  Hill,"  for  there  is  one  for  tha  om- 
panion  print,  "The  Death  of  General  Frazer,"  idiidi  b 
111  the  British  Museum.  Some  of  the  portraits  migfat  be 
identified  b3'  looking  at  a  collection  of  contcmporaiwoiif 
heads.] 

Bkll  Inscbtption  at  Cbtbch-Kibk,  VSiB 
Blackbfrn. — There  is  a  bell  at  Chuzcli-Kirk, 
near  Blackburn,  which  is  said  to  have  been  ob> 
tained  from  Whallev  Abbey  after  its  dissolution 
on  the  attainder  of  l^aslew,  the  last  abbot.  If  so^ 
it  must  have  been  ordered  by  him  before  the  Pil- 
grimage of  Grace,  for  the  date  given  in  the  inscnp- 
tion  happens  to  be  that  of  his  ezecutioiii  whick 
took  place  in  March,  153y.  The  whole  of  the  is- 
scription  runs  thus— 

"Maria  brk  ic  vah  Debtbr  Vaudut  Grhv 
gneootbzc  int  jaeb  mococcxzxtxi." 

What  is  known  of  this  Dutch  bellfounder,  and  ' 
where  are  there  any  others  which  were  nuuiiib^' 
tared  by  him  ?  T.  T.  W. 

James   Besson:    Dublin  Nbwspafbbs.  —  I    ' 
should  be  glad  of  information  respecting  ft  book 
with  the  following  title : — 

<<  Th^tre  des  Instmmens  '  mathABatimus  et  ntf- 
chaniques  de  Jacques  Besson,  Dsnphinoifl.  Doeto  llith^ 
maticicn.    A  Lyon,  1594," 

It  contains  sixty  plates  of  carious  inventiottiL 

1  also  wish  to  know  the  date  of  tha  enfieife 
Dublin  daily  paper,  and  alio  the  earlietk  DbMm 
weekly  paper.    1  have  a  Tolnme  oC  nilMlb 


.Mi 


4*S.IX.  »IAT18,72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


407 


Weekhf  Journal  containing  two  years,  1725  and 
1726.  Is  it  true  that  Dean  Swift  contributed  to 
its  pages  ?  R.  W.  Berks. 

Worcester. 

[James  Besson  was  an  ingenions  French  mechanician* 
professor  of  mathematics  at  Orleans  in  1569,  and  author 
of  some  scientific  works  highly  esteemed  in  their  dav. 
His  Theatrum  Instrumentontm  et  Madtinanmj  1578,  fol. 
dnbseonently  augmented  by  Pascfaalis,  was  translated  into 
French,  Italian,  and  German.  For  notices  of  his  TM&ire 
de»  Ifutrumena  matkemaHoues  Bt  me'dftaiwgiMt,  consult 
Bmnet's  Manuel,  ed.  1860,  li.  829-80.— About  the  year 
1700  a  newspaper  called  Pve's  Oceurrawm  was  established 
in  Dublin ;  and  in  1725  appeared  the  IhAiin  Epemu^ 
Pott-^hoih  were  daily  papers.  The  renerable  DMm 
Jmtnudy  that  lived  in  the  days  of  SiHft,  first  OTpeared  on 
March  27,  1725.  It  was  published  ovietnaUy  twice 
weekly,  and  subsequently  thnce  weekly.  We  adViM  our 
correspondent  to  consult  Madden*s  JSistoiy  pflrkk  Feri- 
cdhal  Literature,  voL  ii.] 

''  Black  John.'' — A  caricature  by  Gillm'  or 
Rofdandson,  entitled  "  Difvnions  at  Hstdeld| 
1789/'  represents  an  aicherj-gioand  witii  varions 
nude  and  female  characters.  In  a  dialogtie  of  the 
usual  coarseness  of  that  date  occur  Sie  words 
'*  Black  John  is  a  good  one."  Can  any  one  in- 
form me  who  was  *'  Black  Johny"  and*  to  what 
political  or  social  event  the  caricature  refers  P 

Lady  Mary  Amelia,  daughter  of  the  first  Mar- 
quis of  Downshire,  marrira  in  1778  the  MTenth 
Eari  of  Salisbury,  who  in  1789  was  advanoed  to 
the  marquisate ;  and  in  Walpdle'ar  ZeUers,  under 
date  July  9,  1789,  she  is  described  as  being  a 
warm  patroness  of  archery.*  M«  £.  Z. 

David  Gabrick. — The  following  is  a  news- 

fMper  cutting  pasted  in  an  old  scrap-book : — 

'^  In  the  early  part  of  Garriek's  career,  at  Dmiy  Lane 
Theatre,  a  tragedy  was  produoed  in  wjdch  Boaeius  sus- 
tained the  p^t  of  a  kmg.  Though  tiiere  was  nothiitf 
remarkably  brilliant  in  the  play,  it  met  with  no  oppof 
tion  until  the  fifth  act,  when  Ganridc,  as  tiie  dfying 
monarch,  divided  his  empire  between  his  two  sobs  In  the 
ibllowing  line : — 

'  Jointly  'twixt  you  my  erown 
I  do  bequeath  I ' 

When  a  quaint  man,  getting  up  in  the  pit,  rc|oiBed — 

*  Then,  gods !  they've  got  just  half-arcsnwn  a*piees  I ' 

**  This  threw  the  whole  house  into  sudi  a  oomic  ooiifti- 
eion  that  not  another  word  of  the  tragedy  was  ntttred  on 
Che  stage." 

1  wish  to  know  whether  there  is  any  fffunda- 
tion  for  the  above ;.  and  if  so,  the  nam^  of  the 
tragedy.  Spabks  H.  Wiluams. 

18,  Kensington  Creecent,  W. 

Queen  Henrietta  Maria. — Whero  could  I 
find  a  list  of  the  persons  who  composed  tibe  house- 
hold of  Queen  Henrietta  Maria,  wue  of  Charles  L  P 

C.  R  R  0. 

[Some  notices  of  the  household  of  Qusen  Hsnristta 

£*  The  Hertfordshire  Arcben  did  theamlYiiB  Um  hooomr 
to  confer  the  fteedom  of  tbeir  sode^  on  the  MaimhtuuiSi 
of  Salisbuiy.  See  the  diploma  in  Hansard^  Book  ^ 
Ardiery,  1840,  p.  152.— Ed.  ]  ' 


Maria  will  be  found  in  Strickland's  Lhes  of  the  Queem 
of  England,  edit.  1851,  v.  444-447.] 

HoTTSTON  OF  HoTJSTON.  —  Can  any  of  ^our 
readers  furnish  me  with  particulars  of  this  ancient  • 
family  P  "*  Who  is  now  the  head  of  the  family  P 
What  relation  was  Sir  WiUiam  HoustounypSifft. 
(creatiom  1836),  who  was  bom  in  1766,  to  ^ 
John  Honstonn  of  that  Dk,  who  died  in  ITQly 
when  the  baronetcy  beoune  extinct  P  Weie  tiiey 
of  the  same  fiunily  P    '  B.  L  L.  JU    ' 

loLANTHE.  —  Who  was  lolanthe  P  The  name 
does  not  appear  in  Lempriere  or  other  clftHaical 
dictionaries.  G.N.  D, 

liBXicoesAPAioiL  EbbobP — In  Liddell  and 
Scott's  LexiooHj  dth  ed.,  1864^  under  the  word 
ea(UM6t,  it  is  said,  9afM4$^s$t^uUf,  only  found  in 
neut.  pi.  ea/uwh  as  adv.  ==  «d^  Find.  0. 1|35 ; 
Xen.  Mom.,  S,  11^  5.  Now  in  the  x^fnw  of  wm 
this  yery  word  is  foond  in  tibe  fendnine-^'At 
dkBvuvff  pa/MtuYTf  —  in  a  passage  quoted  by  me  in 
N.&Q.''4o»S.ix.l67.  Wm  any  one  «»^  to 
me  how  sudi  an  oversight  as  this  could  haye 
arisen,  or  whether!  am  wrong  in  regurdlnff  it  as  * 
an  error  P  iSannrD  Tbw,^  A* 

[Und«  the  werd  P^fyf^  i^hnHl^  a  fracture,  will  be 
found  in  Liddell  and   Soptt^   6th  edition,  hnfP^f  h 
anothes  word  in  the  passage  dted  above,  and  a  referenoe  - 
to  BioD,  i>.  15.] 

EuzABBZR,  C.017VXB88  OF  LDroouf.— Edwwd 
Clinton,  Earl  of  linoohi,  bom  1612,  died  1/S36, 
was  tiirice  manied. .  His  flxst  wife  was  Elissibeth, 
daughter  of  Sir  John  Bbnnt,  and  widow  of  Gil- 
bert Lord  TsUk^s.  I  am  anxious  to  knomwheoe 
and  when  she  died,  and  where  she  was  buried. 

K.  P.  D.  B. 

DiTKB  ov  MoKXOTTiH. — Can  you  g^ve  any  ao- 
oount  of  a  medal  struck  in  memory  of  tiie  unfor- 
tunate Duke  of  Monmouth  P  It  is  about  the  nse 
of  a  orown  piece.  On  the  obverse  is  a  bust  of  the 
duke  with  the  insoriptioii  ^Jaoobns  infeliz  dux  - 
MonumetlieDsis^"  The  teyenerepieaentstlie  head 
of  the  duke  decapitated,  with  three  jets  of  blood 
issuing  from  mb  mouth,  and  the  inscsrintioa 
«  Hunc  sangniiiem  libo  Deo  liberat(»L^  Below. 
"^  CiBsa  <»r^ .  Lon :  Jnliij  i|  168{^'' Is  this  BUiU 
in  the  BrStiBh  Museum,  or  is  it  known  to  ecSko^ 
tors,  because  thera  is  a  tradition  in  the  hmBj  at 
Teaie  that  only  six  df  these  medab  wwa  ayer 
stnu^P  This  fiunily  of  Teale  ia  si^poeed  to  1m 
daaeendad  through' tfca  Oaidonnela  ftom  a  aatmal  . 
danflhter  df  the  Duke  of  Monmouth  caUad  Kiiy 
Bmka,'  Can  iiiy  of  your  ooneapoodiUta  thr6w 
any  light  on  the  adstsnoa  of  tusMaiy  HlokaP 
TbneteiiojMBlkMi  of  aay  oMbdanghterof  the  , 
Doha  of  Mbnmowth  in  Sanifiorl  A.P* 

[ThelBMiMkD  en  the  assiil  eomemoniling  tte  ba- 
hmSkm  <f  the  PuIbi  ef  Mua— (rth  is  an.cbvkfas  iTIwIia    . 


V- 


«. 


t^aoM  aiBoaiil  ef  tts 
Madltt«9.ftQ.»»«&: 


or  HdasMi  liffl  «a 


Jlrowne,  m  iiis  Jteiigw  lueauiy  part  u.  ^  •«,  u**©  i.ui.ov. 

four  lines  :— 

**  Le  inutin  Anplois,  et  le  bravache  Kscossois  ; 
Le  bongre  Italien,ct  le  fol  Francois; 
Lg  poltron  Komain,  le  larron  de  Gascofrne, 
L'Espagnol  auperbe,  et  I'Alleman  y  vrugne/* 

Afe  these  four  halting  verses  his  own,  or  a  quo- 
tation P    K  the  latter,  whence  P  H.  K. 

"  The  Pathway  to  Canaan." — I  have  an  old 

book  with  this  title,  written  by  William  Attersoll, 

minister  of  the  word  of  God  at  Isfield  in  Sussex. 

It  is 'printed  by  William  Jaggard,  dwelling  in 

BarbicSm,  1000.    The  latter  portion  of  the  book 

from  p.  484  is  missing.    I  shall  be  glad  to  know 

how  many  pages  of  the  book  are  wanting. 

Tho8.  Ratcliffe. 

[No  eopy  of  this  work  is  in  the  Catalogae  of  the  British 
MiiieoiD.j 

The  Puurr  Babil. — What  are  the  peculiar 
properties  of  basil  P  In  one  of  Keats*8  poems  the 
lady  if  made  to  bury  the  heart  of  her  aead  lover 
in  a  pot  of  baail,  wluch  she  kept  near  her.  Why 
baail  more  than  any  other  plant  P 

C.  F.  Blackbubn. 

(Tfae  aaeitntshsd  a  enrions  notion  rdatiTe  to  the  plant 
baSU  (CfcymKM  UuUkmm^,  vis.  that  there  it  a  property 
hi  baill  to  propagato  scorpioni^  and  that  by  the  smell 
tbsnof  tbcy  are  bred  in  the  brains  of  men.  Others  deny 
this  wnnderftil  property,  and  make  bssO  a  simple  antidote. 
8st  movs  about  thtt  pUttt  in  •'N.  k  Q."  1"  &  viii.  40.] 

Sazoht. — ^I  am  wishful  to  meet  with  a  history, 
dthar  in  English,  German,  or  French,  wherein  is 
^▼en  a  detailed  account  of,  and  the  motives  (if 
any)  for  the  various  divisions  and  subdivisions  of 
the   "state"   of   Saxony  among  the   different 


belli  is  an  < 
commands 
(for  they  ai 
and  not  pr 
however,  th 
perty  of  the 
probably  ot 
of  the  Psalt 
<  Certaine  G 
are  not  com 
and  textun 
as  the  book 
tion  of  the 
an  edition 
think  then 
xxxiii. 


AnxnLi 
of  this  no< 
late  Admi 
would  be 
regarding 
Editor  wil 

SUBKAI 

the  impre 
was  the  • 
Lower,  B 
The  foUo' 
Tradiiiom 
ferent  ace 
me  which 

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4*  S,  IX.  May  18,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUJJRIES. 


409 


Cromwell,"  and  give  the  authority  for  the  state- 
ment ?  1  am  compiling  a  list  of  such  atrocities, 
and  if  contemporary  evidence  be  forthcoming,  will 
add  this  to  the  number.  Edward  rEACOCK. 

Bottesford  Manor,  Brigg. 


^tpliti. 


ETYMOLOGY  OF  "  HARROWGATE." 

(4»''  S.  y'ln. passim;  ix.  20,  121,  203,  303.) 

By  Harlow  (Hferlaw  in  the  charters)  =  the  bury- 
ing ground  of  the  army,  I  mean  the  place  where 
the  army  buried  their  dead  after  battle.    By  a 
genuine  A.-S.  word  I  mean  one  that  is  not  a  com- 
pound, ad  Harrowthwaite  is,  or  one  tliat  can  be 
traced  up  to  the  A.-S.  period,  but  not  higher.    See 
the  Professor  of  A»-S.  on  Winslow  and  Harwich, 
"  Winnes-hlaw  =  Winslow,  pugnic  tumulus ;  Here- 
wic  =  here,  an  army,  Wic  =  a  station.''    And  see 
also  his  A.-S.  Die.  for  proof  of  Harrow  and  Har- 
rowgate  being  from  here  =  an  army.  Thus,  **  Here, 
herge,  herige  =  an  army,  a  depopulation ;  Hergian 
=  to  act  as  an  army,  to  vex,  afRict ;  Hyrwe  =  a 
harrow ;  Ilyrwian  =  to  harrow,  vex,  afflict,  Harrow 
is  spelt  Hearge  in  Doomsday  Book,  but  well  did 
the  old  English  scribe  after  the  Conquest  know 
what  it  meant,  and  what  form  it  ought  then  to 
assume.     See   the   Imperial  Diet.     In   Thorpe's 
and  in  Kemble's  Charters  are  the  words  *'  id  est 
set  Hearge  HerefreSing  lond  : "  which  is  conclu- 
sive that  the  commanding  position  of  Harrow  was 
the  very  place  the  army  held,  and  where  they, 
made  peace.     A  glance  at  the  indices  to  Thorpe's 
and  Kemble's  Charters  will  show  that  seventeen 
out  of  twenty  of  the  names  of  places  now  com- 
mencing with  har  were  in  the  originals  her  and 
here.    As  to  ard  and  har  ever  being  interchange- 
able, the  complete  dissimilarity  of  the  initial  and 
terminal  letters  precludes  the  possibility.      The 
assertion  of  W.  B.  that  the  words  "  army  and  bat- 
tle never  enter  into  the  composition  of  nomencla- 
ture," is  contrary  to  every  work  upon  the  subject, 
as  Cath,  here,  wig,  and  win,  in  the  names  of  places 
are  always  considered  as  certain  indications  to  the 
contrary.'  C.  Chattock. 

Castle  Bromwicb. 


I  concur  in  your  remark  that  this  subject  is 
about  exhausted.  Whatever  be  the  meaning  of 
the  latter  portion  of  this  name,  rote  or  ow,  the 
circumstnnco  tliat  it  is  found  united  to  the  Danish 
postfixes  gate  and  thwaite  establishes  a  presump- 
tion that  it  is  Scandinavian.  The  postfix  den  is 
not  Celtic.  The  vocable  row,  interchangeable 
with  raw,  enteri?  into  the  composition  of  many 
other  Scandinavian  place  names,  and  may  be 
Gothic  ra^  boundary,  demarcation,  limit.  W.  B. 
cites  as  "  evidence  "  (!)  of  the  derivation  of  Har- 
row from  Ard  that  we  find  it  in  what  he  calls  the 


intermediate  stage  of  Arrod,  whence  he  proceeds 
to"Arrod  Foot,  near  Plumpton,'*  thou^  when 
we  reach  this  point  we  seem  no  nearer  Harrow 
than  before.  "  Obohomby,"  Ormshead,  obviously 
corrupted  from  Op-hom-by,  is  purely  Danish.  As 
descriptive  of  lowlands,  W.B.  cites  among  others 
the  name  ^'  Kensal,"  of  which  we  have  a  familiar 
example  in  the  place  called  Kensal  Green,  situated 
upon  an  eminence. 

It  would  be  a  prodigal  waste  of  time  and  of 
your  valuable  space  to  follow  W.  B.  through  a 
labyrinth  of  topographical  puzzles,  in  which  he 
bewilders  himself  and  convinces  nobody.  He  who 
can  find  ard  in  Finch  may  see  a  coffin  m  a  flake  of 
soot,  Ed.  Constantike. 

I  cannot  agree  with  W.  B.  that  the  names 
Caractacus,  Cassivelaunus,  and  Boadicea  are,  when 
analyzed,  commonplace.  The  rendering  of  Prince 
Vortigem  as  **  Pnnce  Greenhorn  "  w3l  do  very 
well  for  greenhorns.  A  more  reasonable  ety- 
mology would  be  from  v^-tigheam,  preat  lord  oi 

chief.  *  R.  S.  Chasngck. 

Gray's  Inn. 

HOTCHPOT. 
(4»'»  S.  ix.  180,  248,  30C,  374.) 

Littleton's  words  are : — 

"  £n  ccl  case,  le  baron,  ne  le  feme,  avera'riens  por  lour 

{mrpartie  de  le  dit  remnant,  sinon  que  ils  voilent  mitter 
oar  terres  dones  en  frankmarriage  en  hotchpot  ovesque  le 
remnant  de  la  terre  oveeque  sa  aoer.  £t  si  issint  lis  ne 
voilent  fayre,  donqaes  le  paiflne  poet  tener  et  occnpier 
meme  le  remnande,  et  prendra  a  fuy  lea  profits  tantaole- 
ment.  £t  11  semble,  qoe  cest  parol  *  hotchpot*  est  en 
English  a  pudding ;  car  en  tiel  pudding  n'est  commune- 
ment  mise  un  cbuse  tantsc^ement,  mes  un  chose  ovesque 
autres  choses  ensemble.  £t  pur  ceo  il  covient  en  tiel 
case  de  mitter  les  terres  dones  en  frankmarriage  ovesque 
les  auters  terres  en  hotchpot,  si  le  baron  et  sa  feme  voilent 
aver  ascun  part  en  les  auters  terres.'* — Littleton,  lib.  iii. 
cap.  2,  sec.  267. 

Coke* 8  commentary  on  the  passage  is : — 
«  HuUpot  or  hoUpot  is  an  old  Saxon  word,  and  signi- 
fieth  so  much  as  Littleton  here  speaks.  And  the  French 
use  hotchpot  for  a  commixion  of  divers  things  together. 
It  signifieth  here  metaphoricallv  in  partem  potitio.  In 
English  we  use  to  say  hodgepodge :  in  LAtine  farrago  or 
mitceilaneum.** 

The  marginal  references  in  Coke  upon  Littleton 
on  this  and  other  places  are  —  Britton,  c  72; 
4Edw.III.  40;  OEdw.HLaO;  lOEdw.m.38; 
24  Edw.  lU.  27.  Fitzherbert's  Natum  Brevtum. 
262 ;  Begist,  320 ;  Fleta,  lib.  v.  c.  9,  p.  814 ;  Brae- 
ton,  lib.  ii.  foL  77, 1  6  and  fol.  428. 

The  law  of  frankmarriage  has  long  been  obso- 
lete, but  the  term  "  hotchpot "  is  still  in  daily  use 
among  conveyancers  to  describe  a  conmion  clause 
in  settlements  and  wills,  by  which  persons  taking 
a  share  in  settled  funds  under  a  partial  appoint- 
ment are  precluded  from  taking  a  distnoutive 


410 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4A  8.  IX.  Vat  18;  7t 


ehare  in  the  unappomted  fund  without  bringing 
the  appointed  share  into  hotchpot.  J.  F.  M. 

Mr.  Tew's  note  that  Bohun  proves  "  Itotchpot 
to  be  a  ctutom  confined  to  the  City  of  London," 
but  that  he  *'  can  throw  no  light  on  the  date  of  its 
origin  or  repeal,"  is  positively  ludicrous.  HotcJi- 
pat  is  not  a  law  or  a  custom  to  be  repealed  by  Act 
of  Parliament,  but  a  legal  term  for  a  process  which 
must  have  taken  place  since  society  began^  and 
must  continue  whilst  society  lasts — namely,  the 
lumping  together  for  the  purpose  of  division  pro- 
perty of  every  description.  The  term  has  been 
used  in  wills  and  settlements  from  remote  anti- 
quity, and  is  to  be  found  in  every  marriage  settle- 
ment of  tho  present  day.  Mr.  Tew  has  completely 
misapprehended  the  passage  which  he  quotes  from 
Bohun.  The  custom  of  London  referred  to  by 
Bohun  was  not  bringing  property  into  hotchpot 
which  was  common  to  the  whole  kingdom,  but  a 
|>eculiar  local  interpretation  of  the  presump- 
tions arising  from  advancement  to  a  child  withm 
the  City  ot  London.  Elsewhere  the  child  ad- 
vanced could  claim  his  full  share  of  his  father's 
goods  on  bringing  his  advancement  into  liotchpot, 
unless  he  was  expressly  excluded ;  but  by  the 
custom  of  London  an  advancement  was  presumed 
to  be  in  full  satisfaction  of  the  child's  share  of  his 
father's  goods,  unless  it  was  expressly  declared  to 
the  contrary.  •  Tewars. 

The  following  extract  from  Minsbew's  Guide, 

into  the  TotiffucSf  1627,  may  be  of  use  to  Mr.  Chat- 

TOCK : — 

"  Hotchepot  (^in  partem  positing  a  law  tcrme.  Littleton 
saith,  that  literully  it  (ugnilieth  a  pudding  mixed  yritli 
divers  ingredients ;  but  metaphorically  a  eommixion  or 
patting  togetlier  of  landii,  for  tho  equal  division  of  them 
being  so  put  together.  Examples  yon  have  divers  in 
him,  fol.  55,  and  vi.  Britton,  fol.  119.  There  is  iu  the 
Civill  Law  coltatio  Ixmorum  answerable  unto  it,  whereby 
if  a  childe  advanced  by  the  father  in  his  lifetime  doe 
after  his  father's  decease  challenge  a  clillde*s  part  with 
the  rest,  hcc  must  cast  in  all  that  formerly  hce  had  re- 
ceived, and  then  take  out  ap  equall  share  with  the  others." 
J>e  Collat.  bonorum,  lib.  37,  tit.  6. 

In  Cowel's  Interpreter^  1701,  is  a  very  lucid 
explanation  of  this  old  custom,  and  it  is  also 
noticed  in  Blount's  Glosmqraphia  (1G84),  and  in 
The  Modernc  World  of  Words  (IGDG).  No  men- 
tion is  here  made  of  the  custom  having  been  con- 
fined to  the  City  of  London,  and  they  are 
unanimous  in  deriving  the  law  term  from  the 
dish,  and  not  the  dish  from  the  law  term.  In 
Skinner's  Etymologicon,  1071,  hotchpot  or  hodge- 
podge is  merely  spoken  of  as  "vox  coquinaria," 
and  is  derived  from  the  French  hochepot,  "  hocher, 
quatere,  et  ;;o<,  olio."  To  hotch,  in  the  sense  of 
snaking,  is  a  north-country  provincialism  still  in 
use.  I  recently  heard  this  word  used  in  Derby- 
shire by  a  labourer  who  was  sifting  some  gravel. 

Hazelwood,  Helper,  J.  Charles  Cox. 


I  demur  against  the  repeated  aasertion  tiitt  tlie 
dish  hodgepodge  is  derived  from  the  law  phnte. 
It  is  very  much  more  probable  that  the  lawphnM 
(clearly  metaphorical)  is  derived  from  Uie  diMi.  Li 
the  Liber  Cure  Cocorum  (early  fifteenth  century) 
there  is  a  recipe  for  ^'  gose  in  a  hogse  pot " ;  and 
Ilalliwell  quotes  from  the  Fonne  of  Cury^  "  (}ees 
in  hoggepot."  The  term  passed  into  metaphorical 
use  at  an  early  date,  as  we  see  in  the  fcMlowing 
quotation  from  the  poems  of  John  Audelftj  (fif 
teeuth  century) : — 

''  Sum  men  sayn  these  sele  frerys  thai  ban  no  comyiiM, 
.  A  mon  to  taRe  vii.  8aler}''8  x.  tretital  sif  thai  may. 
And  cast  ham  in  a  hogpocli  togednr  fore  to  daancB, 
Hit  ys  no  fcrly  thaz  the  folke  in  horn  thai  han  bo  fky." 

Perry  Soc,  p.  29. 

In  the  play  of  The  Return  from  Diu'muma 
(Hawkins's  Bnglish  Drama^  iiii  2&}  theire  iB  aome 
quibbling  upon  Littleton's  law-use  of  the  pbziaei 
and  the  culmary  use  of  it. 

John  Adbxs,  ILA. 

Iwustington,  Littlehampton,  Sussex. 


OX  THE  TRANSMUTATION  OF  LIQUIDS. 
(4«»  S.  ix.  235,  32a) 

A  few  weeks  ago  you  permitted  me  to  main  a 
few  remarks  on  *'  The  Separation  of  liqiaday" 
which  I  did  partly  in  the  nope  that  the  aaljeflt 
would  be  further  illustrated  by  aome  of  yow 
many  learned  contributors.  I  have  to  thank  Mb. 
Htoe  Clarke  for  his  observations ;  and  widi  m- 
gard  to  irony  no  doubt  he  is  ri^t  in  aaying  tkift 
the  r  is  oftener  toned  down  into  a  8enii*T0W8b 
without  being  actually  suppressed.  But  what  I 
meant  was,  that  many  persons,  who  eonld  eadj 
say  i-ron,  find  a  difficulty  in  saying  •r(o)i^  wA 
therefore  pronounce  it  distinctly  t-on. 

The  anteposition  of  the  liquid-lahial  m  hefim 
a  mute-labial  is  a  phonetic  corruption  espedllly 
common  in  the  mendional  tongues,  both  witii  tM 
ancients  and  with  the  modems.  Thus  the  Giwk 
lah^  '^  take/'  became  in  the  present  stem  hwkm* 
Instances  might  be  multiplied,  not  only  ham,  As 
older  and  later  Greek,  but  from  Latin,  OMiden 
Italian,  &c.  And  this  law  of  "  labiiJ  redn&lki- 
tion/'  as  well  as  the  similar  laws  of  dental  nd 
guttural  reduplication — ^when  n  is  inserted  befeie 
a  dental  or  a  guttural — ^will  frequentlT  ha^  ns 
out  in  a  derivation.  (I  add  by  way  of  illasta*- 
tion  a  mere  suggestion  which  occors  to  nWi  Ii 
omphcUos^opg  halos;  and  did  it  mean  **  the  e^  rf 
the  sea '' — which  it  does  mean— hefora  it  BSrtK 
''navel"?  Thus  c^p  +  AoAM-dpAofosi.  bjtekir 
referred  to,  otnphtdo%,)  The  general  law  OMJ  ^ 
thus  stated. 

A  single  consonant,  in  oompontion  aftar  % 
vowel — whether  this  vowel  be  short  hrM 
or  taken  in  exchange  for  ft  rmiiwiMmiHug 
vowel— is  frequentiy  doaUed;  and  K  ii  Ml 


4"  S.  IX.  Mat  18, 1 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


411 


to  find  the  first  of  the  two,  if  jt  be  a  route,  modi- 
fied into  ita  corresponding  liquid:  a  labial  into 
7it'.  ft  dental  into  n,  ft  g:att(Ufll  into  ». 

Examples :  Gr.  lab,  hmbano ;  pla  (piitha),  pini' 
pin.-  atiwriiCoii :  Gr.  chad,  e-clmnd-ane  (Theoc. 
xiii.  57j  ;  hidomai,  hanilano;  Gr.  eiieh  (used  us 
aor.  otphero),  enenlc. 

The  alliance  of  n  trith  the  gutturals  is  illus- 
trated by  the  pronunciation  of  ibe  Greek  gg ;  a& 
phaliiffgo',  pmn.  phalaixjos. 

Tranmiiilaiiiin  of  liquids  ia  of  two  kinds :  (1.) 
When  a  liquid  is  transmuted  with  another  con- 
sonant ;  (2.)  When  one  liquid  is  transmuted  into 
another.  All  I  can  do  ia  to  give  a  few  examples, 
leaving  a  fuller  treatment  of  the  phenomena  for  a 
less  limited  opportunity. 

(1.)  (ii.  pino,  "drink";  root  pif;t  Lftt.  iifto; 
— Gr.  rhef  (rheo,  "  flow  ")  ;  cognate  roots  r/iad 
and  rham  (whence  oftr  "  rain  ") ; — Gr,  io!»,  r.  saF 
(whepce  ''save');  Lat.*i(i)n«and»o{n)iH( — Gr. 
phaiiio,  r.  phar  and  pkafn;  Gr.  choios,  t,  chof: 
where  a  liquid  has'  been  introduced  to  eupplj  the 
place  of  the  lost  diganima.  More  familiar  in- 
stancea  are  lacri/iita  (L.)  for  dakrurm  (G,)|  odor 
for  (dor:  ruoglx  for  iiwlU:  marfvr  for  niartug; 
thanm  for  ihnrfoa,  &c.  The  doubling'  of  con- 
BODimts,  as  rilahe  for  elabc;  and  the  melflng  of  one 
consonant,  in  composition,  into  that  which  suc- 
ceeds it — as  collap/e  (con-i-l),  immerte  (in  +  m), 
ateent  (ad  +  s),  are  phenomena  not  peculiar  to  the 
liquids. 

The  transmutation  of  liquida  amongst  them- 
selves is  of  a  somewhat  more  interesting  character. 
As  Bxamplea  from  the  Greek  we  may  adduce  tiv, 
tino,  timao;  n(H.(Dor.and  Att),  mm  (Ion.);  inthon, 
Dor.  for  i-IC/ioh;  kribaiios,  Jdibanoi;  Sana,  panchan, 
Gr.  pmfe,  ptmptoA.  Gr.  me  becomes  Lat.  ne ;  Or. 
mtmphe  becoinea  Lat.  nympka  and  lympha.  Of  a 
parallel  nature  is  the  use  of  such  forms  as  emmai, 
tlernenai,  for  einai,  tlenai.  To  come  to  something 
still  more  familiar,  there  is  doubtless  a  phonetic  or 
"diatonic*' connection  amongst  the  four  liquids 
or  semiTowels — uttered  as  ttiey  are  by  various 
modes  and  degrees  of  the  stoppage  of  the  air-pipe — 
which  renders  some  more  easy  of  pronunciation, 
in  certain  mouths,  than  the  rest.  A  difficulty  is 
most  frequently  fouud  with  I  and  r,  which  are 
nearest  to  each  other  in  character.  I  have  often 
beard  one  pronounced  for  the  other — generally  r 
for  /;  though  in  Aarora  Lmgh  we  read — 
"The  little  creature  almoat  loves  ma  now. 
And  call:!  my  name  '  Alola,'  sCrippiup'  off 
The  rs  like  thoroa.  to  make  it  tmoolh  enough 
To  take  between  Mji  dainty  milk-fed  !ip»." 

I  had  marked  many  more  words  to  serve  as 
illustrations;  but  for  foar  of  being  tedious  I  will 
only  refer  to  a  word  which  I  mentioned  in  a 


previous  note — Breticalda.  I  believe  it  to  be  a 
contraction  of"  Brittonum-walda  ";  a  doubly  cor- 
rupt hy.brid,  if  it  be  the  fact  that  atdda  is  a  latin- 
ised form  of  A.-S.  jcariU,  "defender." 

Lewis  Seboeaxt. 


•  Compare  the  jEolTc  peda  for  meta,  &c     (Thior«ch, 
239.) 
I  DigammB :  a  labial. 


IIoDSELiKO  Cloths  (4""  8.  is.  318,  376.)— 
The  answers  given  about  houseling  cloths  make 
a  short  leoly  necessary  &om  another  side.  Like 
a  large  flumber  of  other  things  which  I  will 
not  take  the  trouble  to  allude  to,  the  use  of  the 
houseling  cloth  was  discontinuod  at  the  time  of 
the  change  of  religion  in  England,  from  the  simple 
reason  that  no  one  wwited  it.  I  purposely  abstain 
from  any  remarks  on  a  fact  in  which  i  have  no 
interest.  But  your  coireapondents,  in  making 
their  answers,  ought  to  have  taken  care  to  obtun 
information  whicb  could  easilv  have  been  had.  I' 
give  it  now.  In  every  Cathouc  church,  domeatie 
chapel,  or  misaion  chapel  in  England,  as  in  even 
other  port  of  the  world,  the  cloth  for  commnni-  ' 
cants  IS,  and  alwars  has  been,  in  use.  D.  P. 

Stoartfi  Lodge,  Hdvem  Weill. 

A  CoDioiiiEHCE  (4**  S.  ix.  317.) — To  these 
quotations  might  be  added  the  questions    and 

answers  that  appeared  in  iWeA  some  years  ago : — 

"  Wbat  Is  mind  f  d*  matter. 
What  ia  matter  ?  nvmi  mind." 

GuTHBEBT  Beds. 
LnjM  BT  AjtDKft  Cntxisa  (4**  8.  viiL  414.) — 
The  copy  of  these  most  exquisite  lines,  quoted  by 
Mk.  RiRDOtpH  from  Sir  Robert  Wilson's  note- 
book, is  incomplete.    The  concluding  lines  are : — 

"  Le  sonuneit  du  Ijimbeau  pressera  ma  paupiire; 
Avant  qne  de  sea  denx  moiti^ 
Ca  vers  queje  commence  ait  atteiat  la  derail, 
Petjt-£tre  en  cca  mnia  efinyea 

iwa^er  de  mort,  noir  recrutsor  dec  ombies. 


At  this  point  the  executioner  appeared,  and 
stopped  the  voice  of  the  melodious  singer  for 
ever!  Lamardne'e  description  of  the  lasthonia 
of  ChSnier  is  couched  in  terms  of  the  most  mov- 
ing eloquence.  Let  me  add  a  line  to  point  out 
that  the  epithet  applied  to  the  ''lost  enemy,"  in 
the  fifth  line  of  the  above  quotation,  is  exactly 
equal  to  the  "fell  seijeont  Death,  respecting 
which  some  of  your  coitespoodenta  have  latelj 
been  inqoiiing.  D.  Blaib. 

MclboDrne. 

"AsssusTOTHEMuxifT"  (4*8.  ix.  318.) — 
The  "  Address  to  na  l^yptian  Mummy,"  I^ 
Horace  Smith,  which  origmolly  appeared  in  the 

NtTO  Mottthly  Magazine,  may  be  compared  with  a. 
companion  poem,  "  The  Answer  of  the  Eg^tian 
Mummy  "  by  "Mummius,"  printed  in  Beading*  m 
iWry,  published  br  Parker  for  tiie  ChristiaB 
Knowledge  Society  (7th  edition,  1843),  where  alio 


412 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[(tt  s.  IX.  Hat  18, 71; 


will  be  found  another  po«m  evidentlj  inspUad  by 
that  of  Horace  Smith,  "  Linea  to  an  Alabaitar 
Sarcophagus  found  in  an  Egyptian  Tomb,".'»ritten 
by  "  N.  P.  S."  The  same  work  also  containa  a 
fourth  poem,  "  LineB  to  the  Western  Mummy  " 
by  "  Gedlaudet."  CuiHBEitT  Bede. 


Gakbbt  and  Gerald  (4"'  S.  t 


i.  479 : 


Lower  aaya  that  it  has  been  decided  legally  that 
Oanet  and  Gerald  are  but  oue  name.  ^  Simouds 
D'EweB  aaya  in  hia  AutobioffrHphy,  i.  10 : — 

"My  fcrandfather  vuordinirily  mia  named  Game,  ddC 
only  bysQch  as  knew  not  hii  right  name  of  Geerardi,  but 
eren  in  bis  fatber  Adrian's  last  nill  and  testament,  bear- 
'  ing  date  July  15th,  15S1,  he  is  ao  there  by  igaonnce  of 
the  scribe  miscalled." 

I  anppoee  Gerard  ia  alao  the  same  name. 

a  H.A.  a 

Bridgwater. 

"Bakbdbst"  (4*  S.  is.  279,  360.)— 1  think 
Ub.  Addis  win  fiad,  if  he  traces  the  barguett 
fairly  home, that  its  true  "haunt"  ie  the  church 
or  churchyard,  and  not  the  town  aiinply.  I  have 
been  at  aome  pains  to  work  out  the  history  of  this 
appaiitdoD,  and  I  am  Batisfiad  that  it  is  identical 
with  the  Kirke-varsd,  Kirkt-grim,  Kirh'u-greme  of 
pTovinciat  Denmark  and  Sweden,  la  fact,  the 
term  Kirkgrim,  m  one  of  the  bargveit't  aliases,  is 
hardlT  extinct  in  Danish-tinctured  Cleveland  ^et. 


The  line  oC  inquiry  and  coincidence  which  naa 
ended  in  the  conviction  juat  stated  ia  too  lengthened 
to  obtain  adniiseion  to  these  pages,  and  I  will  add 
further  only  ao  much  as  is  relevant  to  the  idea 
implied  in  the  phraae  "town-haunter."  I  have 
several  detailed  bargveti  cases  connected  with 
Cleveland,  and  it  so  happens  that,  in  at  least  two 
of  them,  tiie  bargueat  itself  not  only  figures  in  the 
churchyard  or  at  the  church,  but  the  church  is 
Huawny  from  the  village  or  town.  The  true  idea 
is  that  the  bargaeit  gives  warning  of  approach- 
ing death  or  great  calamity;  and  I  have  no  doubt 
the  true  derivation  of  the  word  is  that  suggeBted 
by  Sir  Walter  Scott-^namely,  bier-ghost;  Germ. 
bahr  and  yeiit,  or  Dan.  baare  and  geid.  The  Scan- 
dinaviau  names  quoted  above  imply — the  first, 
the  idea  of  warning  conoected  witn  the  church ; 
the  other,  that  of  spectre  or  ghost,  with  the  same 
connection.  J.  C.  Aieibson. 

Danby-  in-ClevcUnd. 

Baptism  fob  the  Dbad  (3^^  and  4"'  S.  pataim.) 
Scaljger's  critical  note  on  this  much-disputed  text 
is  as  follows: — 

"  Baptisroa  Mf  tus  nitfiii'  non  mf  riirpar,  siinplici- 

ler  ut  credilut  in  sj-mbolo  n't  iriarurir  in  (lenere,  hie  dc 

certis  mortuis  intefligitur,  rcmisit  lamen  at  Epiiit»lem  eil 

amicum  sciiptam :  (juam  Fiancisctu  Douza,  ut  et  alias." 

D.  Blaib. 

Melbourne. 

Sr.  Peter's  Chubch,  Chester  (4*  S.  ix.  300.) 
I  am  juat  now  unable  to  devote  time  to  collation. 


but  the  memory  of  past  reading  laada  m«  to  n- 
commend  Mr.  Mobbih  to  compare  with  tho  ox- 
tract  from  the  Vale  Soyid  the  fallowing : — 
1.  A  paper  on  "Cheater"  in  the  Satanbiy  itntof  of 

" ■- 1870. 

with  an  Historlcid  IdI 
by  the  Bev.  Ftands  Grosvuior,  18J8.    [Notably  p.  IS  of 
Mr.  Parker's  paper.! 

a.  "  Abbeys,  Cartlns  and  Andenl  Halls,"  fct  ByJuha 
Timba  (no  date),  1.  S04  ct  Miq. 

If  he  ahould  find  the  information  in  theae  not 
sufficient  (though  I  think  there  is  in  them  the 
pith  of  writings  bearing  on  hia  subject),  and  will 
communicate  with  me,  I  should  DO  glad  to  tij 
to  give  Mb.  Mobbib  further  help. 

Th.  K.  Tullt. 
Bronghton,  Manchester. 

Die,  Dice  (4**  8.  ix,  319.)— Andrew  MMrelL, 
in  bis  Lad  iTUtructione  loaPainlerabtmltSeDidA 
War»,   1007,   uses  "dye"  as  =  dice   in  L   116^ 
which  I  have  italicised  in  giving  the  context^ 
"  The  dice  betwixt  tham  most  tba  bt«  divide. 
As  chuce  doca  atiU  in  mnltltodca  deddai 
But  here  the  Court  doth  III  advantaga  kiNW, 
For  the  cheat.  Tamer,  for  tbem  both  moat  tnnw  t 
Aa  some  from  boxea,  he  u  from  the  ebair 
Can  ilfiit  tht  dyt,  and  itill  iniOi  tliemao  •hart." 

A.  B.  GBOBtBaC 
"  SPHiEEA    CITJCH    CEHTBUM,"    ETC.   {4**   8.  1^ 

329 ;  ix.  205,  3L0.)— Let  me  thank  Dr.  RajiuI 
for  his  reference  to  Vincent  de  Beaav^^  and  add 
hia  words : — 
■'  F.mpedootes  qaoqae,  sic  Enm  dllBnire  ftrtv;  DHi 

estsphairacniuscentn — ' ' ' ' "" * 

Sptcidum  H'utoriali, '. 

Vincent  wrote  arc.  1244,  a 


Hermes : — 

"Mercunua  ille  Tiisme^tua,  qnem  dlii,  mmlDtfb- 
Bimtis  Pbibsophornm  (qui  tot  librae  aerlpdt  qnot  Bellas 
mortalium;  siSelenco  et  HentecocradinasjiKnmabw- 
ram  intellectnalem  esse  dixit,  cqjiu  cantnim  alt  oUaMk 
ciieumfereatia  Dusquam,  quia  niuquam  ml|}<«taa  DM  <( 
immeneitas  terrainintur."  —  Dt  .Xltrmtat*  Ocmadm*- 
liema,  1.  i.  p.  13,  Col.  Agr.  1634. 

The  punctuation  of  the  pareDtheds  thoold  b* 
observed.  Ed.  Wimwitj. 

LoBD  Brougdah  AifD  ms  Uatshsai  Am- 
CEST0K3  (4<*  S.  is.  318.)— The  fdlowing  puW 
is  taken  from  the  preface  to  the  lettere  of  HW 
witty  and  clever  Mra.  Montagae,  puUiiM 
1800:— 

"  Her  fatlier  was  grandian  of  Sir  Leooard  BoUaM 
who  was  the  younj^eit  eon  of  Thomai  """""",  KH>" 
Roheby.  in  the  county  of  York.  Tb<  fhrnlly  of  BsWf 
HODS  of  Uokeby  were  dnoandad  from  the  bmlly  rf 
Itobertions,  Banma  of  StrowoB,  is  Sartlaad."  i 

Habubic  MoapHO. 

Heraldic  :  Wnrair'i  hxn(4^  S.  iz.  8Mi>- 
Id  the  case  euppoaed  by  D.  0.  £  tha  a       '  '  ~ 


..cM 


«k  a  IX.  Hat  is,  73.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIEa 


18  solely,  without  I 
'  husbuid,  unlea»  j 
indeed  ahe  were  the  widow  of  a  peer.  An  heiieu-  j 
widow  bears  her  late  husband's  arms  charged  with 
her  own  in  pretence  on  A  lozettge :  on  her  Bubee-  I 
qaentlj  manying  she  would  ceiw  to  bev  his 
arms.  I^  however,  her  former  husband  had  been  | 
a  peer,  she  would  continue  to  beai  his  arms  on  ei 
separate  lozenge,  andon  another  shield  her  second 
husband  wonld  charge  her  patamal  arms,  t^e  two 
forming  a  group,  the  ahietd  havim;  precedence. 
Shonla  ahe  marry  a  second  peer  she  would  not 
rettdn  the  arms  of  her  former  bnsband,  unless  his 
rank  had  been  Higher  than  that  of  her  second 
husband.     (BouteU's  Seraldnf.) 

I  would  also  refer  D.  C.  K  to  "N.  k  Q."4*  S. 
vii.  146,  147.  J.  S.  Ubal. 

Junior  Atheiunuii  Club. 

Sir  CoLCt  Cavcbell  not  ax  IirEEBiuinr  (4*^  8. 
ix.391.)  — F.  A.  L.  mentions  "the  gallant  Sir 
Colin  Campbell  and  his  Highland  era  at  Inkor- 
manu,  standing  like  a  rock/'  &c.  tc.  For  the 
benefit  of  future  readers  of  "N.  &  Q."  itwoulA 
be  well  to  mention  that  neither  Sir  Colin  nor  his 
Highlanders  were  present  at  Inkennann.     0.  C. 

FttBniAsoss  (4*  S.  ix.  219);  Odd-Fbllow- 
BHIP. — Noachite  lodges  are  reported  to  be  in 
existence  in  Prussia,  and  the  members  are  said  to 
be  known  as  "  German  Masons,"  not  "  Oorman  " 
as  misprinted  in  the  paper  allnded  to  by  Ctxbo, 
Those  who,  like  mjselr,  are  not  of  the  "craft," 
can  only  glean  masonic  retelationa  tVom  boot) 
that  pretend  to  reveal  mystarias.  Such  worki 
assert  that  the  Noachite  rite  atill  exists.  That  is 
all  I  can  say  on  the  matter. 

It  may  be  interesting  to  some  readers  of 
«  N.  &  Q."  to  state  that  Odd-Fellowship  (M.  IT.) 
has  recently  spread  to  Switzerland,  and  some 
lodsea  (and  with  great  aucceas)  have  been  m- 
tahushed  in  the  German  contona. 

Jaxes  HsiTBT  Drrov.  *  | 

"  It's  You'll  take  thb  Hiuh  iloAO  "  (4*  S.  ix. 

320.)  —  I  am  surprised  to  find  that  Uie  Skt. 

Chablbs  Kogbbs — who  has  wrought  a  good  deal 

among  Scottish  song — was  unable  to  answer  the 

query  «f  his  American  Mend.    The  son^  will  not 

be  fonnd  in  any  of  the  collections,  as  it  IS  of  Terr 

inferior  merit.    It  was  very  popular  in  Scotland 

about  fifty  years  ago,  and  is  still  sung  at  &in  and 

Tostic  merrymakings.      I  am  able  to  send  you  a 

copy  of  the  words  from  a  fl^g  song  in  my  «»• 

session,  which  was  printed  m  1664.    It  is  called 

"  Flara't  Lanaitfor  Itr  OtarUt, 

"Air— MjCbarliel  mrChsrilel 

*■  It's  yon  bonny  banks  and  yon  boanj  biaa^ 

'      When  the  nut  ghiacs  bright  and  boony, 

Wlien  I  and  my  tng  lore  went  Out  fin  ta  mm 
.  On  the  bono;  bonny  banks  of . 


"  It'*  yoDll  Uka  fhi  high  road  and  111  take  tha  low. 
And  I'll  be  in  Scotland  befors  yon. 
For  1  and  mj  true  lore  shall  nay«t  meet  again 
On  the  bonny  bonny  banks  of  Benlomond. 

"  It'a  not  for  the  bnrdahlp  tbat  I  mnat  endure, 
Not  the  leaTinc  of  Benlomond  [m«ely],  , 

Bnt  it's  ibr  tke  loiTlng  or  my  comrades  all. 
And  tbe  bonny  lad  I  lore  so  deoriy. 

"  With  his  bonny  laced  ihoea  and  hla  bncklea  lo  glear. 
And  his  plaid  o'er  Ui  shonlder  hnng  so  rarely. 
One  glanced  his  m  would  banish  dull  care. 
So  buiibome  was  uw  looks  of  my  Charlie. 

"  But  as  long  ai  I  Un  and  as  long  as  I  have  breath, 
I  will  ihig  of  Us  momoiy  fUrly, 
Hy  tnie  lore  was  taken  by  tha  amnn  of  death, 
And  now  Flora  does  lamnt  fOr  Charlie." 

Ills  moat  not  be  confounded  with  "Flora 

Macdonald's  Lkment,"   which  was  written  by 

Jamea  Hogg,  and  set  to  m&mc  by  Neil  Gow,  jnn. 

J.H. 

SUriiug. 

ShAKSSFXABI:    "AU.'S    WstL    IHAT    BBTDt 

WzLC,"  Act  IL  Sa  3.  (40  S.  ix.  SSB.V-Fiu- 
fiius  is  eonect  in  his  eonjectuia  as  to  w  wmm 
(£  Bfaokeapeon's  inspration  in  -  thispasBtgo,  Imt 
he  has  beeii  ahtidpftted.  Sshop  Wndsvorb's 
work  On  BhakMotar^t  Sun^ube  and  Ut  of  Ou 
Bibb, J. 334:  Her. T.  R.  Eaton's  Aaafawwn  md 
(As  iNIKs,  p.  174 ;  £iU>  TVmOs  i(«U  jA^&moMM 
IVaBr^  an  ancimmons  work  puUished  in  1882, 
p.  137;  and  Birch's  Inquiry  mto  Oe  HOomtfi 
uf  A^WJMM'.SiUfcmra,  p.S7aaUenUsaM    ' 


>fa&imec] 


the  pi 


"Bo  balT  writ  tn  bobss  hath  Indsmant  shown 
WUb  Jndges  bare  been  babes,^ 
is  dmwn  from  Matthew  xL  26,  or  Luke  x.  21. 
(Kshop  Wordsworth  thinks  Matt  sxi.  IS,  16, 
mora  appodte) ;  and  Henlqr  has  pointed  out  that 
the  wivds;— 

■■  Qnot  floods  have  flown 


nre  an  lUnsion  to  Hoses  ai 
(Exodus  XTU.  6.) 


itingthe  rock  in  Hotsli, 


Wharsa , , 

Wharo  bi^o  Is  eoldsat  and  despak  laoit  dH." 
These  an  tlie  oooditding  Unes  of  Hdeiu's  spaodu 
and,  w  fitt  as  I  know,  tbeynerec  have  been  ttMel 
to  a  biUlaal  ■ornm.  ItseemstomatiuttbeMwt 
i)  sUndinr  to  die  jtaiaUe  of  the  Good  BanunttD/ 
nlao  fbond  in  haka  x.  We  mi^  imanne  that  tk«  , 
wounded  man,  in  tbe  paidde,  would  natnnlfy 
expaet  to  lebsm  assistsnee  and  eonaolitlan  Aran 
tbe  priert,  but  the  latter  araUs  him,  and  hen 
fxpeetatimi  &ils  in  ■  quarter  when  it  promised 
most ;  and  It  MU  ,"  piost  oft  there,"  ra>  he  te  ' 
ogsittdiimolntad  fir  tits  Lnite.    Inttesadka. 


414 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<k  S.  IX.  Mat  Ifl^  Tli 


could  not  be  expected;  and  here,  indeed,  his 
**  hope  is-  coldest  and  despair  most  sits,"  for  we 
are  told  in  John  iv.  0  that  '^  the  Jews  have  no 
dealings  with  the  Samaritans."       T.  McGRATn. 

Pel  A  GITS  has  been  forestalled  by  Holt  White, 
who  writes — 

**  Dr.  Johnson  did  not  see  the  import  or  connection  of 
fhig  line.  It  certainly  refers  to  the  children  of  Israel 
passing  the  Red  Sea,  when  miracles  had  1)een  denied,  or 
not  henrkened  to,  by  Pharaoh."  (P.  363,  Variorum  S. 
1821.) 

John  Abdis,  M.A. 

IIanz-des-Vaches  (4*^  S.  ix.  220,  280,  328.)— 
I  have  studied  the  Romande*,  and  have  translated 
for  "N.  &  Q."  some  of  the  songs  that  we  lind  in 
it.  But  I  must  confess  that  I  am  by  no  means 
certain  as  to  the  meaning  and  derivation  of  the 
word  ranz.  Some  assert  that  it  means  "  call  "  ; 
others  say  that  it  signities  *'  rank "  or  **  line,'' 
"ring"  or  "circle."  I*  incline  to  "call,"  and 
think  that  the  compound  word  means  the  "  call 
of  the  cows."  But  a  learned  friend  (a  Vaudois) 
is  of  opinion,  with  Dr.  Buchheim,  that  "  line  "  or 
"  rank,  or  "  row,"  &c.,  is  more  likely  to  be  the 
meaning.  The  expression  originated  in  the  canton 
of  Fribourg,  and  the  original  song  (a  GruySre 
ditty)  is  certainly  connected  with  caUiny,  I  trans- 
late the  first  verse — which,  by-the-bye,  is  all  the 
original  song  —  the  other  verses  being  modem  ; 
additions : — 

"The  shcphenl  swains  of  Colombctte 
At  the  early  mom  liave  met, 
And  from  proves  of  sombro  pino 
Call  adown  the  half-waked  kiii<-. 
Come  adown,  down. 
White  ones  and  brown, 
Black  ones  and  grey, 
Mottled  and  bay. 
Come  away !  come  away ! 
'Tis  the  break  o*  the  day ! 
Young  ones  and  old !  * 

To  the  fold !  to  the  fold  ! 
TAauhn  !  liauba  !  con  aria  ! '' 

If  the  above  song  gave  rise  to  the  term,  as  is 
as^rted,  then  ranz-des-vacJtes  most  probably 
means  "  cow-caH."  But  the  question  still  occurs, 
what  is  the  derivation  of  ;vms  =  "  call,"  and  in 
what  tongue  are  we  to  discover  the  root  ?  My 
friend,  who  is^an  advocate  for  "  line  "  or  "  rank," 
thinks  that  7-anz  may  be  merely  a  patois  form  of 
the  French  raw//,  and  so  may  be  regarded  as  an 
introduction  of  comparatively  modern  times.  I 
believe  that  the  song  originated  the  name,  and  1 
that  it  is  not  older  than  the  middle  of  the  last 
century.  In  the  Komande  there  is  no  such  sepa- 
rate noun  as  ranz,  Ja31es  Henry  Dixon. 

Lausanne. 


Novslisib'  Flowebs  (A^  S.  ix.  85,  148, 22a) 
Ms.  Britien  is  certainly  not  correct  as  to  Aff- 
land ;  but  when  I  made  my  "  note  "  I  was  thizik- 
ing  of  the  lovely  Val  6^ Etna,  near  Florence.  If 
our  friend  were  there  at  the  present  titne^  he 
would  find  that  all  my  assertions  as  to  liliea,  daf- 
fodils, tulips,  and  rushes  were  quite  coirect.  In 
my  botanical  '^  notes "  I  state  from  personal  ob- 
servation. I  never  rely  on  "  hearsay "  or  the 
dictum  of  another.  The  flower  alluded  to  bj 
Thomson  as  quoted  by  Mr.  Beale  (p.  226)  » 
evidently  the  Caltha  palustriSf  or  marsh-mari- 
gold.   It  is  a  ranunctdu^  and  not  a  '^  water-lUy." 

Stephen  Jackson,  a  Muiithian. 

"GuTTA  CAVAT  Lapidem  "  (4«*'S.  Ix.  82, 167, 

269,  370.)— The  Latin  form  of  this  proverb  can 

be  traced  back  to  an  earlier  date  than  tne  publicfr- 

tion  of  either  Schonheim's  work  or  the  Oradm,od 

Parnasawn.     A  collection  of  Si^ibols  and  fm- 

biems,   in    two  '^  centuries,"  was   published  by 

Camerarius  in  the  year  1654.    The  first  century 

consists  of  symbols  taken  ''ex  re  herbaria";  tlie 

second  has  tnis  title  — 

"  Symbolorum  et  Emblematum  ex  animalibui  qnadra- 
pcdibus  desamptomm  Genturia  altera  a  Joa«h.  CSaoW' 
rario,  Medico,  Norimberg,  etc.  Francofarti,  impensb  Joh. 
Ammonii,  1664." 

Symbol  96  of  Century  ii.  represents  a  beartt 
gnawing  a  tree,  and  is  entitlea  "  PersevenntijL" 
In  the  explanation  of  the  symbol,  after  quoting 
among  others  Ovid's  lines,  ^'  Quid  magia  est  duram 
saxo,"  &c.,  the  author  proceeds :  — 

**  Hinc  ChoBrili  versos  proverbialis  Grseciis  apnd  Galf 
num,  lib.  iii.  de  Temperament :  H^rpcuf  iCMXairci  ^wb* 
DSaros  ^rr€\ex«^i?,  id  est :  — 

*  Gutta  cavat  lapidem  non  vi  scd  snpe  cadendo.* " 


*  Mr.  J.  Payne  confonndi?  the  Komande  with  the 
Jtomawtch.  They  are  different  ton^nes,  and  have  no 
resemblance  to  each  other.  This  has  been  stated  in 
'*N.  4Q.' 


Whether  this  Latin  rendering  is  oriig^nal,  or 
whether  Camerarius  adopted  an  already  fanuliir 
form  of  the  proverb,  is  a  question  I  will  Ioato  to 
others  to  decide.  Q.  F.  S.  B. 

•  iRisn  Families  (4*^  S.  ix.  360.) — ^According  to 
Burke's  Peerage^  &c.,  fourth  edit.,  Richaxd  Jcmn- 
stone,  Ivsq.,  of  Gilford,  co.  Down,  was  the  son  of 
Sir  William  Jolinstone,  Knt,  of  Gilford,  by  kit 
wife  Nicholian,  daughter  of  Sir  ^icholaB  AcheMB, 
Bart.  He  was  created  a  baronet  July  S7,  ITTSy 
and  married  Anne,  daughter  of  Willimm  «Alss- 
ander^  Esq.,  of  Dublin,  by  Mary  his  wife,  dangktv 
of ...  .  Porter,  Esq.  lie  died  1795.  His  nooid 
daughter,  Catherine,  married  Joseph  Mmqb 
Oriusby,  Esq.  II.  H.  & 

Stoke  Ncwington. 

I  beg  to  say  that,  as  a  member  of  the  fiuuQ^f 
being  the  eldest  surviving  nephew  of  the  late  & 
Charles  Montagu  Ormsby,  Bart,  M.P^  I  can  give 
valuable  information,  should  your  oonesponMlit 
favour  me  with  a  letter  on  the  ■abject. 

Ohab.  MavTAOu  Omvr- 

17,  Grev  Rock  Street,  Wert  Deiiby  Rm4 


i""  S.  IX.  Mai  18,  •72.] 


NOTES  AKD  QUERIES. 


The  Litkrary  Forgeries  of  Fouemokt  (4'" 
S.  is.  2aS,  3(».)— Mr.  R.  C.  CHKiailE  notices 
■wilh  surprise  tUst  in  the  long  and  elaborate  lil'e 
of  the  Abtd  Fourmont  in  tlie  XouivUe  Biographie 
ghtirah  of  Didot,  1868,  there  is  not  a  word  to 
suggest  that  tha  alleged  discoveries  of  the  abbi^ 
■were  not  genuine.  It  is  still  more  eurprising  that 
in  the  Siipcrcheries  liUerairex  deooUiei,  pubuahed 
1869,  tbe  name  of  the  Abbu  Fourmont  does  not 
appear  at  all.  J.  H.  C. 

"  When-  Aham  keh-ed,""  etc.  (3'*  S.  pamm.) 
By  whom  this  idea  was  first  started,  I  do  not 
ttuDk  tbnt  we  hare  as  yet  autficient  informatioi} 
to  come  to  a  decision.  In  Germany  there  seeai,^ 
to  have  been  a  variety  of  forms,  as,  in  addition  to 
wLat  was  (.nvon  bj  Mr.  Platt,  I  find  in  a  collec- 
tion of  medin;val  proverbs  by  Knjpius  (_15!)1)  the 
following : — 

■.t  und  Eva  spmnn,  | 


Wer 


n  KdeliDi 


He  pivps  also  as  a  proverb,  known  at  the  time 

when  the  volume  was  pahlished,  the  quick  roplv  ,  „, ,  „    ^__.. 

of  Maximilian— tholirst.Isuppose  of  the  Austrian  j  Samiik'Sa/>itil-e^^Z~''fah\i^Qi  in  'im7,'ie 


I  as  Mrs,  Craven-Green,  speaking  of  tha  "  Moddey 
'  Doo,"  adds—  , 

'■It  is  still,  however,  believed  to  appear  at  certain 
tiintp,  anil  its  presenee  foretella  etorms  and  shipwrechi. 
■Allan  CunninKbam,  ia  bia  Traditional  T-h,  0/  Iht  Eng- 
liih  aad  ^rntriii  Fai$'niln/,  fmgueiitiy  mentiani  the  ap- 
parilioii's  Hnpearance  during  tempests,  and  th»t  at  every 
back  it  the  Demon  Hound  a  ship  is  supposed  to  sink." 

On  the  mythological  relations  of  this  superBti- 
tion  there  ia'a  su^estivs  passage  in  Kelly's  Indo- 
European  Fulk-hrf,  p.  210.  The  root  of  the 
myth  would  appear  to  be  a  symbolism  of  "the 
stormy  wind.  The  Gabriel  Hounds  whom  Mr. 
Charles  Reade  has  immortalized  are  not  very  dis- 
tant relatives  of  the  Moddey  Doo.  Tha  Cornish 
miners  have  a  superstition  about  black  dogs  which 
are  supposed  to  haunt  some  mines,  but  there  does 
not  seem  to  be  any  connection  with  the  myth  of 
the  Storm-Hounds.  (See  Hunt's  DroUs,  ^nd  S. 
126.)  W.  E.  A.  A. 

Victoria  Terrace,  Rnsholmll 

T.  A.  Atkissoit  (4"'  S.  ix.  200,  372.1— A  copy 
•(XiieMuerieto/JIummiLife;  orthe  Groan* of 


line,  though  witho 


reference  to  that 
btful  whether  Maximiliau 
merely  adopted  a  proverb  whicli 


AUein  dflss 


n  Mitn 


irGottdeiEhrent 


:!  Mann, 


before  me,  being  the  sixth  edition, 
pleta  \a  one  volume,  though  the  author,  James 
j  Beresford,  Fellow  of  Merton  College,  Oiford,  did, 
!  [  believe,  shortly  afterwards  issue  a  second  series. 
A  coloured  folding  plate  forms  the  frontispiece, 
I  but  "  W.  H.  Pvne,  fecit,"  appears  in  the  left-hand 
'  liomer,  and  on  the  right  hand,  "  Pub*"  June  1,  J806, 
by  W.  Miller,  Albemarle  Street"  This  plate 
certainly  much  reaembles  the  more  refined  efforts 
iif  Rowlandfton,  and  ia  very  effective.  With  the 
letterpress  are  interspersed  several  small  wood- 
cuts, vmttchedly  executed;  but  I  fail  to  find  the 
name  of  Atkinson  in  any  way  connected  with  this 
|<nrticu[ar  volume.  J,  Cqables  Cox. 

Hmelwood,  Belper. 

"  LISE3  TO  A  Moin  "  (4">  S.  iii.  312  ;  ii.  360.) 

'ITie  poem  ia  by  Thomas  Carfyle.     It  ia  printed  in 

Ciiticnl  and  Misvellaneoiie  Euayt,   vol.  i.  p.  351 

led.  1867.)  JoHM  AiiDis,M.A., 

Rostinglon,  Littleharapton. 

CnERRiES  AND  THE  HoLY  Fauile  (4""  S.  ii. 

117,  210,  375.)— The  legend  cornea  from    the 

,,  I   '''owe/ 0/ Pwut/o-AfafMcid  (see  Cowper's  Apocry- 

MArriiK  Poi!  (■4">  S.  it.  3TO.)_Mr.  Skipton  |  ,>h,d  Go^els,  -p.  60),  where,  however,  tha  tree  is 

■  ^' '.^??°4  $^  *'^^  I  l"'lni>  «nd  not  cherry.    In  the  Coventry  Mysteries 

(Shakespere  Soc.  p.  14S)  we  get  the  dierry-tree, 
with  the  introduction  of  a  dramatic  touch  of 
j'jalousy  in  Joseph.  Hone  (AndaU  Mysteries, 
p.  00)  gives  a  Chnstmas  carol  on  the  same  subject 
with  the  same  incident  of  Joseph's  jealousy. 
Ci>wper  (Apocryphal  Gea>de,  p.  xixviii.)  give*  (I 
iiiucu  softened  venion  of  the  same  carol. 

Joes  Addis,  M.A. 


A  still  earlier  appearance  of  it  under  a  Latjh 
form  I  find  in  Gartner's  collection  of  proverb? 
(1574)- 

"Aciim  fiidiente,  quls  nobilior,  Eva  nenfe.'' 

"  Ali  Adam  (jftib  und  Kva  spann, 

Wer  war  da  wotil  ein  Eddmann  ?  " 

Neither  France,  Spain,  nor  Italy  have,  so  far  as 

I  have  been  able  to  discover,  niada  u!*e  of  this 

democratic    proverb ;   nor   indeed    is    that    Bur~ 

piisiiig,  when  we  recollect  that  tha  mass  of  the 

people  in   these   countries   were  little   else  than 

gleba  ancripli.     So  far  as  Adam  ia  concerned,  the 

only  French  proverbs  with  which  I  am  acquainted 

in  which  liis  name  appears  are  the  following: 

"Jous   fils   d'.Vdara    mourront;"    "Tous  furent 

d'Eve  ct  d'Aciiim  :  "  "  Vivro  selon  lo  vieil  Adam." 

Can  any  uthi'ra  h-.  nMoiV  C.  T.  RAHAa>i. 


evidently  has  in  mind  the  Mi...*  .ck^u  vi  m 
,Moddey'Doo,  or  the  Black  Dog  of  Peel  Castli , 
Isle  of  Slan.  Manilla  or  Moddey  ia  derived  from 
the  Iriah  Madilailk,  which  si^ifies  "  dogrieh, 
ill-natured,  peeviali,"'  (  Vide  Manx  Society's  IXc- 
tionary.)  J.  \>.  Bkiscoe,  F.H.S. 

Free  I.ibrnrj,  Xottingham. 

Waldron  gives  an  account  of  thia  canine  ghost  . 
of  Peel  Castle,  Isle  of  Man;  also  vide  vlityenJ  of  I 
Jfonn,  ntalein  two  cantos,  by  E.  8.  Craven  Doug- 
las,  1826.    The  fair  anthoreas,  since  well  knovra  '  =■ 


UTHBERT  Bedx'b  note  on  this  subject  ia  veir 
interesting.  Anothei  inatauce  is  in  the  "  Ripoaa," 


416 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<i' 8.  IX.  Mat  18,  TS. 


by  Barocciy  formerly  in  the  Orleans  Gallery,  of 
which  there  are  several  repetitions.  The  intro- 
duction by  Kubens  of  the  wayfarinj;:  tree  into  a 
picture  of  this  subject  has  always  appeared  to  me 
a  clever  thought.  Was  it  his  own;  or  is  it  to  be 
found  in  any  design  older  than  his  time  ? 

liALpn  N.  James. 
Askford,  Kent. 

The  Altar  Cloths  of  Old  St.  Paul's  (4"'  S. 

ix.   317.) — Your  correspondent  Mr.   Kalph   N. 

Ja]/ks  has  not  given  a  faithful  translation  of  the 

original  in  Ponz,  which  is — 

"  Son  de  exquisita  tela,  y  estin  bordados  en  el  la  asan- 
tos  de  Jesu-Chriato  y  nuestra  Sefiora  con  ba.stante  arte," 
dkc. — Ponz,  ViagCf  vol.  iv.  3rd  ed.  1781). 

Ford,  in  his  Handbook  for  Spain,  edition  1845, 
says — 

"  they  are  embroidered  in  pold  and  silver  about  twelve 
feet  loDfi^  by  four,  and  repn^sent  subjects  from  the  life  of 
the  Saviour.  In  one — Christ  in  Limbo^are  introduced 
turrets,  evidently  taken  from  those  of  the  Tower  of  Lon- 
don." , 

William  D.  Olivei^. 

Temple. 


Stafford  Family  (4***  S.  ix.  342.)— I  cannot 
answer  C.  S.'s  query,  but  would  beg  to  repeat  one 
I  believe  I  previously  made,  which  has  hitherto 
remained  unanswered,  as  to  who  was  a  Stafford 
of  whom  I  have  a  fine  bold  signature  on  a  parch- 
ment of  the  vear  1437,  boffinning — "  Nous  Jehann 
Sire  de  Talbot  et  de  Fumival,  Mareschal  •  de 
France,"  with  the  sign  manual. 

I  have  also  a  note  of  a  Lord  Staflbrd,  dated 
«  Cleveland  House,  May  21, 1808."  Was  not  that 
the  late  Duke  of  Sutherland  ?  P.  A.  L. 

Halstead's  "Succinct  Genealogies,"  etc. 
(4***  S.  ix.  340.) — Bohn's  Lowndes  says  that  only 
twenty-four  copies  of  this  work  were  struck  oil', 
and  gives  a  very  minute  description  of  the  Karl  of 
Peterborough's  copy  in  the  Urenville  Collection 
in  the  British  Museum.  The  Cambridge  Univer- 
sity library  contains  a  copy.  I  am  told  that  Mr. 
Taylor,  bookseller,  of  22,  Gold  Street,  Northamp- 
ton; has  for  some  years  been  endeavouring  to  dis- 
cover the  depositories  of  the  other  copies.  By 
writing  to  him  D.  W.  would  no  doubt  gain  some 
further  information.  E.  V. 

For  a  list  of  the  possessors  of  the  twenty  or 
twenty-five  copies  of  the  scarcest  of  all  works 
upon  noble  genealogies,  I  would  refer  D.  W.  to — 

Moule's  Bibliotheca  ITeraldica,  p.  230. 
Gough's  Britiflh  Topograph.,  ii.  51. 
Notes  and  Queries,  1»*  8.  vi.  653. 
Lowndes*  Bibliographer's  Manual  bv  Bohn,  pt.  iv. 
p.  985. 
Gentleman's  Magazine,  xlvi.  (177G)  157. 
Brydges'.s  Censura  Literaria,  ii.  373-375. 
Bntbb  Muaeum,  Add.  MS.  27,34U,  pp.  1-2. 

In  the  course  of  my  researches  I  have  nofb^en 
sble  to  trace  those  mentioned  below.    1  e\i«\\ 


be  ^atly  obliged  for  assistance  in  ascertaining 

their  actual  whereabouts : — 

• 

Joy's,  19  guineas,  bought  by  Mr.  White. — Googh'sBrtt. 
Top.  ii.  51. 

Caius  Collc^;^  Cambridge. — Ibid, 

John  Bridge's,  large  paper  ?  15/.  1725.— Moale*s  Bib. 
Her,  280. 

A  copy  sold  for  one  hundred  guineas. — Ibid, 

Sir  M.  M.  Sykes*,  74/.  11«.  Bought  by  Mr.  Pickering 
at  Lord  Berwick's  sale,  93/.;  re-sold  to  Henry  Dram- 
mond,  Ksq.,  98/.— Lowndes*  Btb.  Mitn.  pt.  iv.  985. 

Sir  Symon  Taylor's,  52/.  10».  1833.  (Bought  by  Mr. 
Bohn.)— iWrf. 

Duke  of  St  Alban's,  56/.  U».  1796.— Dibdln's  JEdn 
Althorpiana^  i.  188. 

The  BodleUn  Library,  Oxford.— Martin's  Cat^Privatdy 
Printed  Booki, 

The  Librar}-  at  Lee,  near  Canterbnr\'.— Brydges's  Gm. 
Lit,,  ii.  874. 

In  a  Circulating  Library  in  London. — Gent.^t  Sfag., 
xlri.  (1776)  157. 

Joseph  Gulston,  May  8,  17^3,  and  May  26,  1784.— 
Qarke's  Bep.  Bib,,  462,  632. 

John  Meyrick.  April  21,  1808.  67/.  7s.  (Bought  by 
Mr.  Manson.)— /6u/.  632. 

John  Tatlob. 

Northampton. 

''The  Table  Talkek"  (4»»»  S.  ix.  319.)  — I 
possess  a  copy  of  The  Table  Talker,  1840,  with  a 
MS.  note  to  the  effect  that  the  author  was  Isaac 
Taylor. 

I  notice  that  in  the  Catalogue  of  Dunn*s 
Library  (No.  1970),  sold  in  Glasgow  in  Apnl, 
1870,  they  are  attributed  to  Arthur  Helps.  Sorely 
this  is  a  mistake.  G.  K. 

"God  in  the  Generations  op  the  Righteous" 
(4***  S.  ix.  118,  328.)— Neither  the  Crippled  Boys' 
Ilome,  Kensington ;  nor  the  Cripples' Home,  Mary-' 
leboue  Road ;  nor  the  Cripples'  Nursery,  near  the 
Marble  Arch,  can  give  me  any  information  about 
this  book.  In  the  notice  of  it  which  first  ap- 
peared in  your  columns  it  was  said  to  be  published 
by  Nisbet  and  Co. :  they  can  tell  me  nothing  about 
it.  So  I  suppose  I  must  abandon  the  search  unless 
S.  M.  S.  can  kindly  tell  me  of  any  other  cripples* 
institute  or  charity  which  I  hare  overlooked. 

F.M.S. 


"  Nothing  can  come  from  Nothing  "  (4**  S. 
ix.  217,  305.)  —  I  forward  you  some  lines  written 
by  the  late  Bishop  Terrot,  impromptu,  in  the 
album  of  a  lady  (a  near  relation  of  mine)  on  an 
occasion  and  under  circumstances  similar  to  those 
recorded  by  your  correspondent  G.  R.  W.  I  trust 
their  **  neatness  "  may  secure  them  a  place  in  your 
pages. 

*•  Writing  veree  ia  vexr  hard. 
If  one  is  not  bom  a  bard ; 
To  refuse  you  when  you  ask 
Is  to  me  a  harder  task. 
Take  the  will,  then,  for  the  deed, 
Axvii  vQo.  have  the  xbymm  yoa  need. 


4«S.1X.HAT18,'7J. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


0ttfcenaneiiu<. 
BOTES  OS  BOOKS,  ETC. 


I  Scoltiah  poetry_  that 


t  four 


Bppear, 


.   _ .  The  Bannatyne 

pected  nill  form  three  volamfs  of 
pages  each,  the  Erst  of  which  will 


JlfHH*in,  Bndlriatt  Library,  Jtna  GJttiit  Library,  Src. 

Ediitd.  milh  lutroituclion  nad  Indtx  of  iVnrdi.  by  Kev. 

Bichard  Monis,  LL.D.  Editor  of"  Hampole,"  "  Prirke 

of  Conscience,"  Je.    (Printed  for  Early  Enelish  Teit 

Society.) 
Kim  Al/rtd't  Wat  Saxon  Vertim  af  Grrgory't  Pailnral 

aire,     tnti   Ei^iih   Tranilaiiim.      The  Latin  Ttxt. 

Nott).  and  an  Jntrndurllnn.     Editid  by  Hearr  Swe«t. 

Esq.,  of  Balliol  College,  O.tford.     Part  II.     (Pridted 

for  Eaily  English  Text  Society.) 

These  an  the  lint  two  of  the  publications  of  the  Earlv 
EngliBh  Text  Society  for  the  carrent  year.  Though 
several  of  the  piecea'contained  in  the  first  of  them  have 
already  appeared  in  print,  svcli  aa  the  Bestiarv  sdiI  Pro- 
verbs of  Alfred,  the  «uh«tibera  """""  "  ""' ' '""" 


advantage  of  new  and  corrected  texts  of  them,  and  a 
la^e  mass  of  new,  inedited.  and  very  intereatini;  speci- 
mens of  the  langua|;e  and  literature  of  England  Id  the 
thirteenth  century  capitally  edited,  and  nith  a  full  Gloa- 
■arial  Index.  No  better  evidence  of  the 'value  of  the 
second  hook  can  be  ^ven  than  a  contained  in  the  open-  I 
ing  passage  of  Sir.  Sweet's  preface,  in  which,  as  throngh- 
ant  the  whole  of  the  book,  tie  uses  Old  English,  "  for  the 
unmixed  inflectional  stage  of  the  English  lani;nage.  com-  I 
monly  known  by  the  barbarous  and  unmeaning  title  of 
Anglo-Saxon."  Speaking  of  the  text  given  in  the  work 
before  ob,  the  Editor  soyis  "  Of  all  the  unpublished  Old 
English  texts,  the  present  is  perhapi  the  most  important.  | 
Preserved  in  two  JISS.  n-ritten  during  Alfred's  lifetime,  ' 
It  affords  data  of  )lie  highest  value  for  Hxing  the  gram- 
matical peculiarities  of  the  West  Saxon  dialect  of  the  i 
ninth  centun-j  and  although  several  texts  belonging  to  I 

thesa ^-'  ■— -  ' 

first  01 
M8S.  X 

garbled  reflection  of  hid  language-        

that  all  the  editors,  both  at  home  and  abroad,  have,  with 
0D«  enception.  persisted  in  ignoring  the  genuine  Weat 
Sanon  MSS.,  dismissing  their  most  constant  and  charac- 
teristic peculiarities  as  'Mercian,'  ' Northern,' ' dialectic  ' 
(vthatever  that  may  mean).  '  abnormal,'  or  a-wribing. 
them  to  the  innate  depravity  of  the  scribe."  Mr- Cockayne 
IB  the  exceptional  Editor  referred  to  by  Mr.  Sweet. 

WoncKBTEBaEcinu   HEHALoriY.  -  Mr-   H.   Sydney 
Graiebrook — a   name   (Imiliar  to  our  readers — is  pre- 

Cring  [or  publication  ihe  "  Heraldry  of  Worcestershire," 
ing  a  Roll  of  (he  Arms  borne  by  about  ISTIO  of  tbe 
Noble,  Knightly,  and  (lentte  Families,  who  have  had 
Property  or  Itesidence  in  tbat  County,  atvariona  periods 
down  to  the  Present  'I'lmv.  Collected  from  Xash'x  His- 
tory, tbe  Heralds'  Visitations,  Ancient  Manuscripts, 
Heraldic  Diciionaries,  and  other  authentic  Sources.  The 
-work,  which  is  at  prcM,  will  form  aralauie  in  small  qnarto, 
nniform  with  the  author's  "  Heraldry  of  Smith." 

TiiK   IIiKTKKiAN   Ci.DB,  which  has   already   issued 


Earl  Sr*!iitorR  was  on  Saturday  elected  a  fcraign 
member  of  tbe  Academy  of  Moral  and  Political  Sciencn 
at  Paris.  KI.  Quetclet,  of  Belgium,  waa  also  elected  a 
foreign  member. 

Messrs.  Casse LI.,  Fetter,  and  Galpi^i  annaimce  a 
series  of  Tales  on  the  Parables,  by  Isa  Craig-Knox,  eon- 
sisling  of  stories  of  modem  life,  illustrating  the  Parable* 
oftheSewTestamenl- 

Mh-  .1'>hn  Pun-En.— a  valneil  contributor  to  this 
journal  from  its  commencement,  Mr.  John  Power,  the 
wcll-know|i  bibliographer,  died  at  St.  Leonarda- on-Sea 
on  tbe  llitii  inst.  in  the  flfty-second  year  of  bi^  age.  Mr. 
Power  fulHIled  his  articles  in  the  office  of  Sir  John 
Rennie ;  but  forsaking  his  profession  of  civil  engineer 
for  the  more  congenial  pursuit  of  literature,  he  has  done 
good  service  bv  his  Iriih  Liitrary  Enquirer,  the  Bibiio- 
-'--   "■'       -  '    ---  - --'-hit  Havlf-Booi 


aboat  B<nki,T! 


rsofN.a 


e  dedicated  to  the 

e  years  resided  in 

projected  the  successful  newspaper.   The  Panama  Star 

and  Herald  p  but  an  attack  of  paralysis  obliged  him  to 


m.m.due€ 


of  "Gre. 


t   Hau 


ling 


Conlecatehers,  bv  .Samuel  Ro 
ing(;lasse,""Th'o  Knave  of  C!ubbw,""A  Paira  of  Spy- 
Knaves,"  "The  Amnrose  Songes,  Sonets,  and  Elegies  of 
Alexander  Craige,"  and  "The  Poetical  Keercations."  which 
are  to  be  followed  by  other  works  of  Kowlandsand  Craige. 
has  obtained  permission  to  transcribe  and  print  the 
whole  of  the  Bannatyne  Manuscript,  which,  says  Dr. 
Irving,  "is  the  most  ample  and  valuable  collection  of 


jlaHtti  to  CarretfpnutitnU. 

W.  M-  H-  C—The  porlrail  »  belleBed,  iy  a  ctry  hlffh 
auUmrita  to  whom  ve  have  tbown  the  ikilch,  to  bt  of  abo*t 
tilt  time  of  George  IL 

JumOB  SriroEST  ehmild  appiy  to  one  of  lit  tcieittific 

J.  T.  Presley  (Cheltenham).— The  Olctibnirv  of  Ihft 
Turf,  the  King,  &r,  and  the  Varieties  of  Life,  'lS23,  ft 
by  Jon  Bee,  Evf.,  1.  e.  Jobn  Badeoek,  See  Hotten's 
Slang  Dictionari',  p-  39o-  In  our  copy  of  lAu  leori,  tig' 
nature  Ccnnlaini  only  four  intttad  af  tiBenty-finr  paga — 
Euays  on  Miracles,  &c.,  1753,  it  Ay  Gearga  PtaJmanaxar. 
The  Seamd  Seriei  did  not  appear.  See  "N.  &  Q."  1"  S. 
vii.  439. 

R.  and  M. —  Same  accounl  of  Pin  WtUi  opptartd  in 
"N.  AQ."  1"  S.  vi.  28,  4i(7. 

Osakn.—See  "  N.  *  Q."  2"*  S.  i.  866. 

C.  A.  rniESTLT.— Smae  rtceipli  for  oHiltrating  ini 
from  jM^rott  given  in  our  I'S.siL  Hi,  133,  ISB. 


418 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[I'ks.ix.MATU^'n, 


AsHBA.^Tbe  Philosophical  Sarvev  of  the  South  of 
Ireland,  1777,  it  attributed  to  John  ll'atkin$ony  M.D.f  by 
W/rtt,  Lowndes,  and  the  Catalogue  of  the  Britiah  JUmteumf 
as  well  as  the  title-page  of  the  book  itself. 

C.  W.  S.  (Halme).— Small  Books  on  Great  Subjects 
extended  to  twenty-two  numbers,  1841-54.  They  were 
^ted  by  J,  BarioWf  but  chiefiy  written  by  JUiss  C,  t\  Com- 
wallis. 

G.  R.  W.  (Barnstaple). —  We  can  retommend  the  f allow- 
ing  works:  The  Royal  Phraaeological  English- French, 
French-English  Dictionary,  by  J,  C.  Tarver,  2  vols. 
1853-4,  8vo,  25«.  Also,  General  French  and  English  Dic- 
tionary', by  A.  Spiers,  2  vols.  1861,  21«. 

£.  T.  ( Exeter \— .A  J,  Hofmanns  Lexicon,  and  J.  S. 
Atsemanus^  Bibiiothcca  Orientalis  <31enientino-Vaticana, 
have  not  been  transkUed  into  English  or  French. 

VlATOK  (1.)— "^«  the  World's  at  Paris  "  is  too  long 
for  quoUition.    It  will  be  found  in  the  Universal  Songster 
(^Fatrbum),  ii.  287,  Lond.  1826.     It  is  probably  from  the 
pen  of  Charles  Mathews,  the  elder. 

M.^.  (Beaufort  Gardens'). — Thomas  Patch,  an  English 
engraver,  flourinhed  about  1770-1774.  He  engraved  a  set 
of  twenty-six  plates  from  the  pictures  of  Masaccin,  dated 
1770.    For  a  list  of  his  works  consult  Nagler  KUnstler- 

Lexicon,  xi.  10. The  inquiry  respecting   Van  Dyck 

having  resided  at  Holland  House  appeared  in  our   last 
wAume,  p.  68. 

XOTICE. 

To  all  communications  should  be  afHxed  the  name  and 
address  of  the  sender,  not  necessarily  fbr  publication,  but 
as  a  guarantee  of  good  faith.' 

We  beg  leave  to  state  that  we  decline  to  return  com- 
munications which,  for  any  reason,  we  do  not  print ;  and 
to  this  rule  we  can  make  no  exception. 

All  communications  should  be  addressed  to  the  Editor 
at  the  Office,  43,  Wellington  Street,  W.C. 


FRENCH,    9,    Roval    Exchanffo,    London,   Watch, 
Clock,  aud  Chronumcter  Mtktr.    Ebtabllshcd  a.d.  ISIO. 


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Manufkctnrcr  of 

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COHMUNIOK  LINEN,  SURPLICES,  and  ROBES. 

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C<)lTe<>tions  Arransed,  Moanled,  Titled,  FortMiocd,  FxaiMd,  or : 

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ENVELOPES,  Cream  or  Blue,  40. 6tf.,  to.  tiL.aad  to.  %i.  f 

THE  TEMPLE  ENVELOPE,  irlth  Higk  lUMr  Flap.  1«- 

8TRAW  PAPER— Improred  quality,  U.%d.  par 

FOOLSCAP.  Hand-made  Outiidefl,  8l.  6d.  par 

BLACK-BORDERED  NOTE,  4f .  and  to.  M.  par  raaa. 

BLACK-BORDERED  ENVELOPES,  U.  per  lOO-Super  tfaisk 

TINTED  LINED  NOTE,  far  Home  or  FordfaOotimpaBta 
coloun),  ft  qairee  tn  I*.  Sd. 

COLOURED  STAMPING  (Relief),  induced  to  to.  tf .  pw 
to.  (hi.  per  1,000.   PbUihed  Steel  Cxetl  Dlea  enttvmX 
Monocrami,  tvo  letten,  from  to.i  thrat  Istten,  tatm  !•• 
or  AddTCM  IMee.from  to. 

SERMON  PAPER,  plain,  to.  per  nami  Ridid  ditto,  to.  U. 

SCHOOL  STATIONERY  mppUed  on  the  moetUboval 

niutrated  Price  Uit  of  Inlntoadi,  D«p«taii 
Cabinett,  Poetace  Soalea,  Writing  OMii,  Fiortmlt 
flree. 

(EmAaLmoBD  184L> 

The  Vellum  Wove  Clnb-honse 

Mannfkctnred  ezDreetly  to  meet  an  nnlTonally  ezperienaid 
paper  whldi  ihall  in  fteelf  combine  a  periWUy  anooth 
total  freedom  from  Rreaae. 

The  New  Vellum  'Wove  dub-Hoiua 

will  be  ftrand  to  poetcw  theee  iwnillaiUkmMaaiiliHiilj.  brine 
tbe  best  linen  ran  only,  poMndnc  great  tenadtr  and  di 
prcientinff  a  lurnoe  eqnally  well  aoapted  ftr  qnlu  or  alHl 

The  NEW  VELLUM  WO VE^XUB-HOUSB  P. 
all  others  for  smoethneai  of  surfkoe,  deUeafcy  of  oakmr, 
ture.  entire  absenA  of  any  colowing  matter  or  iajia 
tending  to  impair  its  dnraUlity  or  In  any  waar  *<fcia»tg 

erties.— A  Sanmle  Packet.  «nn twining  ^a  Amottimnt  of  te  IHH 

ixet.  post  free  fbr  M  Stamps. 

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lleet  Street,  E.G. 


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of  14.  ST.  MARY  AXE.  hav«  JiMt  laeeivot  • 
K  MANILA  CIGARS,  in  ezeellent noBdltion.in  B. 
Price  tl.  Ito.  per  box.  Orders  to  beaooompanltdlqrn  i 
N.B.  Sample  Box  of  100,  Ito.  U. 

TNDIGESTION.— THE  MEDICAL  FROFE8SI0K 

±    adopt  MORSON'S  PREPARATION  of  FEPSINB  ■■  tte  ftM 

Remedy.  Sold  in  Bottles  and  BosEas,  from  to.  Srf..  hr  dS  Ften 
tiual  Chemists,  and  the  Mannftctnieia,  THOMAS  StOBIOir* 
121,  Southampton  Row,  Russell  Sqnar^  IioodoB. 


Reproductions  of  Simple  and  Artistic  Cabinet  Work  from  Country 
Manaiuua  of  tlie  XVI.  and  XVlt.  Centuries,  combiuiuff  good  taste,      ' 
sound  workmauship,  and  economy. 

COLLINSON  and  LOCK  (late  Herring), 
CABINET  MAKERS, 

KK).  FLEET  STREET,  E.G.    Established  1782. 


The  best  remedy  FOR  ACIDITT  OF  THE  STOMACH.  I 
BURN.  HEA]dACHE.  GOUT.  AND  IMDIQBSTIIOiri  nd 
mild  aperient  ftir  aeUoate  oonstitutloaa,  mseemif  mUi^tem, 
OUILDREN,  and  INFANTS. 

DINNEFOBD  ft  CO..  171,  Nov  Bond 
Andof  aUCbaniaCa. 


TAPESTRY  PAPERHANGINGS      \ 

Imitations  of  rare  old  BROCADES,  DAMASKS,  and  UOBELIN     | 

TAPESTRIES.  j 

COLLINSON  and  LOCK  (late  Herring^  i 
DECORATORS, 

109,  FLEET  STREET,  LONDON.   Established  1782. 


LEA   AND   PERRINS'    SAUCE. 
TB^  M  vironom 

prononnocd  bgr 

"  THE  ONLY  eOOD  SLUCEJ* 

Improves  the  appedts  Hid  aUi  dimllia. 

UNRIVALLED  FOR  PIQUANCY  AMD  nATOIOL 

Ask  for  "IiBA  AND  FJOBBIVB*''  BAUOli 

BEWARE     OF     IMITATIOHS^ 

and  »ce  the  Nanus  of  LEA  AND  TKBRZHB  m  ill 

A^nta-CROSSE  ft  BLACK  WET  J  ■.  Lonfci,««4  ■ 
Dialers  in  Saneet  thimdMoil&rWMii 


*»8.0L  JI*rai,78. 


irOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


r,  aATBBBAT,  MAT  M,  tSII. 


KOTBSt' 


CONTENTS^N*.  2B0. 
Fnnklln-a  Bpitwh,  410— BtbHfVnpfar:  Ober- 
^u  PanioDPtJU'.42l  — I>linien"t  l>E>UM."ttE 

—  O^tui  Andronicu):  the  AWoM  Bonlni;  Joe  Hlller, 
tb.  —  Birli«t  reeorded  IniUnim  of  ProTRtM'  ind  Gbrli- 
tlan  NunM  —  De  tog's  "  Tnw-boni  BngUihawa  "  —  Otkan 
ArohitootuTB—  Clerijri  Ctatom,  US. 

QUBBIRfl :  —  Arcfahishcqi  Iteker, "  Da  Antlquitate  BrlUn- 
nlcB  Sccleaiic."  ini,  U4  —  AtmiMpbcrlo  FlwnDBena  — 
BiUTiraily— Blonm  on  the  Oim|i*,  Ad  —  BniM OuMom* 

—  BornlnE  InTaliJi— "  Ch-1  tbs  llu-tjrr"  — Ca<ki«MifaM 

—  "Tbn  Coloun  or  Basi">d  be  ndlsd  to  tba  Hmr"  — 
"  Jane  Coniniert"  — Death  Ina  SDIItnrTiM-'Bngllibar 
In|d<ali'i  ChelB»  College  -  The  OraiMl  8eo»l—  HanMir  ■ 
the  Uonen^'Hr.  Long  Hyde*!  JfiarlMt  — Hlr  Connn 
Jonlyn;  Gimbridfe Jnitlcei— Jonee  — P.t^fliripw.M.D. 

—  Ladenbatl  — Sir  Biehaid  Lee  —  Latber  —  Tbe  luMnii 
Wives—  HaeMr  of  Ihe  Loi^  ia.  —  Hr.  Illlbnrn>i  Cutis 

—  HiDOD  de  rBnoloe  ahd  Olaae  da  PcMAan  —  "  nia 
OOtce  of  tbe  Holy  Week,"  Ik^  4U. 

BBP]iIS»:  -  John  THi,4M-  IKanltHl:  Daahip,  «e  — 
Hubert  de  Burgh,  trma.  John.Ml— Lwtf>UeaMiMat— 
OiH  Prlars  of  BeriDikaD  (Breohmadnn?)  —  "Ondm 
ad  PirnaMan  '  —  Monaetle  Iimnlortii  —  BaerJua  Is- 
icriptions  ~  Villa  -  "  Plat  JustiUs.  nut  Ctalum-  — 
Switfs  "GalllTer'ii  Tiuda"— Aueryplial  Qm^lqgjr  — 
DeftcM  in  UlrrEsge  Resiitera— btvarh  Clwoe— Raet- 
wood  Hbuss,  8t<ri(e  Ilsvtnstoa  —  Baitar  and  B<ufti(<l% 
Fanonnw  —  ->  Seorat  SoaleUea  of  tbe  Mlddla  Ana"  — 
Villiam  Becoll  —  FsTsrabam  Chnroh  —  The  BwTof  8t. 
I«imnt, Canada;— " Bloody  Wall"— "Hie OurlkvTallt," 


Ifotei  oa  Books,  ic. 


FRASKUN'S  EPITAPH. 
I  da  not  know  that  uiytliiiig  more  exqniatelf 
touching  can  be  found  in  the  whole  domaio  St 
SmdehraUa  than  the  well-known  epituh  on  tba 
celebrated  American  i)rinteiN  AlthoDgh  funiliu 
to  erery  one,  it  will  still  bear  tranflcription : — 
"The  Body 


And  strtpt  of  its  lettering  and  gilding)' 

Liea  here  food  Tor  wonna. 

Yet  the  vork  itself  shall  not  be  loM, 

For  it  vill  (as  he  believed)  appear  once  OMre 

And  mon  beantiliil  Edltlrai, 

Cotrectsd  and  Amended 

By 

The  Author." 

In  the  biogrnphiea  of  Frenklin  we  an  infinmed 

that  this  epitaph  waa  "  written  by  him  mmajjvm 

fceTiouB  to  his  death."  This  event  took  plaoe  in 
790— a  date  which  it  ia  well  to  remembra  in. the 
following  attempt  to  aseertm  how  far  the  writer 
may  have  been  indebted  to  eariier  epifaphi  itf  tt 
dnular  technieal  chameter,  or  to  ooUeotths  initK- 
tions  of  which  it,  in  ita  tunt,  may  lutve  bean  tho 
begetter. 

Steven  CollatL  A.M,— ofiw  Reuben  TfeOft 
Mm  Thomai  Byerley — in  hia  BeKet  ef  Likeatrnt, 


8vo,  1823,  cites  two  "Ejutapha  "  of  an  earlier  date, 
which,  he  think%  probu>ly  suggeated  the  idea  to 
Franklin  r — 

The  wotlifg  1  Book,  writ  by  th'  eternal  An 
Of  the  great  Maker ;  printed  in  man's  heart ; 
"Hs  falsely /tnHte^thon^dhdndyHMi'd;     . 
And  all  the  Errala  wiU  qipaar  at  ■S^  mi." 

"The  IforU'i  a  Primtij^a><ut,tHa  mrdi,<>ut Omi^M, 
OoxdtBbut  Otonieten  of  several  aixw; 
Eaeh  5aaf  is  a  Cfanos'Air,  of  whose  filQlta 

Tba  tmUn n»  Oarrmttn ;  Bunt»aii—*; 
BmM  is  the  eossmom  fitm,  from  whenetbetag  dli*«a. 
We're  gKtktt'd,  Sheet  by  ahaM,  awl  bniiMl  Kr 

Now  these  so-called  ejutapha  an  actually,  Z- 
Deed  hudly  remiDd  the  rflada,  ezceipts  £nim  ob 
DivmK  FtmeiM  of  RuioiB  QviaHei  (12am,  1687, 
lib.  iv.  3  and  36),  with  cnttiii  emn  and  altanr- 
tfou  of  Hie  oompilw,  wUeh  I  hat«  tKkaii  tlw  : 
UbeHy  of  ooireotW  by  tbe  oti^nalaL  Ther  ooti> 
tiun  ft  similar  idea,  it  is  tne,  &.t  the  odDDlndfaw 
tioliri^  wbieh  cooetitatea  tba  chief  beaa^  cc 
nanlclia't  iaaoiption,  it  hem  atlur  abtMit  ov  UdB 
hia  hnipy  amplification.  Not  ao,  bowvra^  in  tfc* 
emtapn  on  CommodcHe  Trannian  in  SnvdlMtf* 
Angrm»  FldcU  (vol.  iiL  oh^  viL),  whi^  ^- 
jteared  aa  early  aa  1751,  and  which  FranUin  had 
m  all  probatailit;  read  and  enjoyed : — 

•<H«4lM' 

Fonncknd  In  a  Uibaa  and  a  lialf, 

rf 

BawwB  Tninantn',  8*0; 

Formeriy  Commaitdar  of  arBanadion 

InHUH^nto-asKTlgc 

Who  broach'd  to  at  lln  p.m.  OeP.  x. 

In  tbe  yett  of  hla  age 

.    TtaTecMore  and  nlnetsea. 

He  kept  Ua  noa  alwva  loaded, 

And  hit  taAla  raidy  Duoaed, 

And  neveribawed  hla  poop  to  tba  enemy, 

Ezospt  wfaio  be  toofc  her  In  tow ; 

BtUhii  diot  being  e:qMndad. 

And  U«  tmpn  wwisi  dacarad, 

Hewaaatmlr 

By  death's  amiariar  walgU  of  metal. 

Nenithdeas, 

Be  wilt  be  wdi^ud  ag^ 

At  ttw  GiMt  Day, 

His  rigging  ndtled, 

AivlhlieaUMnn    '    ' 


In  the  Po^ftuAaa  of  O.  H.  'WiUoa  ^  toIs.  Bn, 
1804)  ii  an  epitaph  on  a  wfetahttiakar.  laid  to  b» 
tranacribed  mim  Abtnamnff  chorchyard,-  bnt 
withoat  tbe  date  bring  gtnn  :— 


Hie  difatlid'tUi  Hi  '  WHtad  t^ 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES* 


[4ttB.IX.>UT96,7l. 


In  hopes  of  bclDK  '  Uken  Id  baud ' 

b;  bia  '  Maker,' 

And  of  being  thoroughly  '  cleaned,  repalrc  J ' 

and'Mt  ■-Koing' 

In  the  world  to  crnme." 

Vol.  i.  p.  305. 
This  18  accompanied  by  one  of  a  similar  techni- 
cal cfiamcter  on  a  cbeuust,  which  ia  too  long  and 
ton  little  to  the  point  for  iosertioa. 

But  the  epitaph  to  which  we  maT  suppose 
Franklin  to  have  been  immediatelv  indebtrf  for 
the  idea  he  has  so  thoroughlj  made  hia  own,  is 
ooe  tail!  to  have  been  written  bj  an  "  Eton 
scholar"  upoa  a  bookseller,  not  less  celebrated 
than  the  great  American.  This  I  transcribe  from 
&  book  entitled — 


lIsTO  is  recorded  an  amusing  dispute  which  is 
alleged  to  have  taken  place  at  tbo  Wa^hingtun 
Tavern  between  "  halt  a  doien  Virginians  and  a 
few  New  England  men,"  as  to  the  merits  and 
CHpedally  the  originality  of  Dr.  I^'ranklin.  After 
Kome  oreliininary  skirmiahini.',  in  which  it  is 
assertea  that  the  celebrated  line — 

"  EcipuiC  ocelo  fulinen,  ncpplruinquB  tjranni " 

WAi  "an  eruption  of  mad  cothusiKsm  from  the 
disordered  intellect  of  TurKot,"  the  \'irginian  offers 
tomaintainandprovothftt  'Tranklin  is  a  pilaris  t — 
a  downright,  barefaced,  shameleM  plagiarist."  In 
Bupportof  this  position,  beagreea  to  lay  his  "chickn- 
aaw"hack  agiunst  the  New  Kngland  man's  bay 
mare,  and  wins  his  wager  by  proving  from  the  Pole- 
mical DiKourets  of  Jeremy  Trtjl or,  a  copy  of  which 
he  opportimely  has  in  hia  iiortmanleau,  that 
Franklin  borrowed  from  the  li-nglish  theologian 
bis  celebrated  Parable  ngainat  Persecution.  The 
Epitajih  next  comes  under  discussion,  and  tlie 
horse  being  gone,  the  New  England  man  offers  to 
etoke  his  now  useless  saddle  on  the  exclusive  "ght 
of  the  Doctor  to  this  admired  composition.  To 
this  the  Vinnnian  states  that  "  it  was  iiut  hnni'Stly 
come  by.  Franklin  robbed  a  iitllo  boy  of  it," — 
and  the  saddle  (roes  the  way  of  the  bay  maro,  as  ho 
proceeds  to  read — unfortunately  irp  are  not 
favoured  with  the  authority — the  following  in- 
scription ; — 

"Titstrolumine  pfmoln, 

Ilic  liniN  JACOHI  T<i:(s<i.T. 

IVrpnliti  Sotionini  prinpi[iiA : 

tlai,  velnt  obstetrix  iniisarum, 

In  lucem  ctlldit 

'_  Felices  inRonii  pnrtun. 

LuE;ete,  scriptonitn  cbgnu, 

Kt  frangite  calamoa ; 

Ule  Tester,  marpini  rraiM  drMur  I 


In  prtlo  $rpHlcliri  commiMui! 
Ipse  editor  careat  (ilnlo : 


Falia  vita  delapsn, 
Expectans  f/mam  Sdititmem 

The  New  England  man  is  outrweoiu;  and  tho 
triumphant  Virginian,  to  give  hia  anUgoaiit 
another  chance,  offers  to  stake  his  boots  that 
"  Franklin's  pretended  discovery  of  CBlmin^  troa- 
bled  waters  Dv  pouring  upon  them  oil  IIU17  ba 
found  in  the  thinl  hook  of^Bede's  HitUtry  <jr  Ot 
Chiirch,  or  that  his  titcetious  essay  on  the  air-b^ 
is  poached  word  for  word  from  Aubrey's  Afworf- 
ianie»."  ButtbeNew England manhasliadeBouKh, 
and  not  wishing  to  go  bootless  home,  wiaelv  de- 
clines to  "  lay  any  more  wagers  about  Dr.  fYmnUin's 
originality."  In  this  case,  as  I  have  lemarkvd 
above,  no  reference  is  given  to  the  aautce  of  tfaa 
epitaph  on  Tonnon,  and  the  last  Tun-gloriou 
challenge  of  the  ^'i^ginian  may  afford  us  a  bint  m 
to  its  value  and  origin.  Is  there  such  an  inscrip- 
tion ;  and  if  so,  who  was  the  "  Eton  boy"  lOO 

An   epitaph  on  a  farrier  is  recorded  as  fram 
Clewer   churchyard  near   Windsor,  but  withoat 
date,  by  tbo  editor  of  the  Bterralivt  Sgview :  — 
"  My  siHlgo  and  hammer  lie  declin'd. 

My  liellowa  loo  have  lent  tfadr  wlad  ; 

M  V  Hrc'a  extinct,  my  Torge  decay'd, 

Uy  vice  It  Id  Ihs  diut  now  laid. 

My  coal  ia  spent,  my  iron  gone, 

Uy  nalia  are  drove,  my  work  ia  doos." 

Vol.  IL  p.  S99. 
A  similar  epitaph  on  a  blacksmith  is,  if  I  ra> 
member  rightly,  to  be  found  in  Aston  chiueh- 
yard  neor  to  this  town. 

Two  or  three  technical  epitaphs  on  watch- 
makers arc  given  br  E.  J.  ^Vood  in  his  ftewMtMt 
of  docks  and  Watchni  (8vo,  1860),  wnong  wluch 
is  the  one  I  have  cited  above  from  the  A)^*^ 
then.  From  this  it  may  be  learnt  that  the  Dome 
of  the  watchmaker  was  George  Iloutleigh,  tbs 
data  1^^,  and  the  place  Ljdford  in  Devonshin. 
Heference  may  also  be  made  to  Soiui  of  U* 
J'reii  ana  alker  Poem*,  Svo,  18.3S.  Here  is  an 
epitaph  on  0.«cnr  Meader  in  a  church  at  Berlin— 
"The  work,  newly  revised  and  improved  br  ita 
great  Author,  will  reappear  in  &  splendid  day." 
Another  on  Peter  Gedge  in  the  ^tnsb  church  of 
St.  Mary,  Bury  St.  Edmund's — "Like  «  won  out 
typo,  he  is  returned  to  the  Founder  in  the  hope  rf 
being  recast  in  a  better  and  more  perfect  mould "; 
and  others,  like  the  foregoing,  datelcoi^  on  anoiT- 
mouB  pressmen  and  compontma.  There  is,  I  ma 
horo  note,  another  alto^tber  different  .bool^ 
though  bearing  the  same  title: — 

"  Sonipi  of  the  Press  and  othar  Poemi  raUUve  to  tt* 
Art  of  I'rinlera  and  PriDttng.  aln  of  Author^  Bosta, 
Uookaellen,  liookbinden,  Editon,  Ciltio^  Hiw^apMk 
he  Original  and  Selected,  with  Nntai  Blogiuhieil  asl 
Literary.     London  :  Fiaber,  Son,  &  Co,  IBM,''  m.  Svtk 

Both  books  were  edited  by  C.  H.  "nrnpsriiy,  "a 
brother  typo,"  and  the  lattat  ahodd,  poihf^'W 


A^  S.  IX  Mat  26,  '72.] 


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421 


considered  a  second  edition  of  the  former ;  I  never- 
theless regard  it  as  a  different  work.  To  return : 
in  this  volume  will  be  found  a  curious  history  of 
a  printer^  in  verse,  full  of  technical  allusions  and 
terms,  and  concluding  with  the  lines : — 

**  Then  haste,  kind  Death,  in  pity  to  my  age, 
And  clap  the  Finis  to  my  ILfe'a  last  page. 
May  Heaven's  great  Autnar  my  fo%d  jproof  revi$t^ 
Cancel  the  page  in  which  my  error  hes. 

And  raise  my  form  above  the  etherial  skies. 

•        *        ••        «        •        •        • 

The  stubborn  prestman^t  form  I  now  may  scoff; 
Revised,  corrected,  finally  worked  off  I " — p.  45. 

It  is  more  than  time  to  conclude;  yet  before  I 
do  so  I  would  fain  cite,  among  the  avowed  paro- 
dies of  Franklin's  epitaph,  that  made  for  himself 
by  the  unfortunate  bibUoniane,  whose  fate  has 
been  so  touchinglv  recorded  by  that  genial  and 
elegant  bibliographer,  Charles  Nodier.  Here  the 
luckless  man,  having  mistaken  the  date  of  a  book 
sale,  and  arriving  at  the  scene  of  action  a  day  too 
late,  found  that  all  its  coveted  treasures  had  be- 
come the  prizes  of  more  punctual  collectors — Sir 
Kichard  Heber  of  course  amon^  them — went  chap- 
fallen  home,  and  died  of  the  disappointment  :— 

"Cl  OfT 

Sous  sA  Rrliurk  de  Bois 
Un  Exbmplairb  in-Folio 
De  la  meillbure  Edition 
,  de  l'Hommb, 

ECRITE  DA5S  UME  LaNOUB  DE  L'AoB  D*0R 
,QUE  LE  Moi«DE  NE  COMPRBMD  PLUS. 

C'bst  aujourd'uux 
Un  Bouquuv 

Macule, 

MOUILLE, 

Depareill^, 

Imparfait  DU  FRONTISnCB, 

PiQUB  DE8  Vers, 

Et  fort  endommaoe  de  Poubritubb, 

On  n'osb  attendre  pourxui 

Les  Honneurs  tardifs 

£t  mutili^s 
De  la  RaiMPREssiON.*' 

Contes  de  la  VeiUee,  p.  807. 

In  conclusion,  whatever  claims  to  originality 
Franklin's  epitaph  may  possess — and  one  does  not 
look  for  much  in  mortuary  inscriptions— it  is  most 
«legant  and  perfect  in  its  composition.  It  is  not, 
therefore,  as  an  addition  to  it  that  I  subjoin-— 
transcribe  I  do  not  remember  from  what  source— 
the  following  technical  summary  of  the  charac- 
ter of  the  illustrious  American  typographer  :— 

"  He  was  the  #  of  his  proftssiont 

The  *  type  *  of  honesty, 

The  I  of  aU, 

And  although  the  0"  of  Death 

Has  put  a  .  to  his  ez]8tence» 

Every  §  of  his  lifo 

Is  without  a  ||." 

WillumBas«. 

Birmingham. 


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[i«>'&IX.MAT2Sb'0. 


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The  above  list  is  as  complete  as  I  can  get  one ; 
and  I  shall  be  glad  if  any  of  your  readers  will  give 
the  names  of  aiiv  other  works  on  the  *'  Ammerf^au 
Passion  Play  "  not  included  in  the  above  list. 

Bbito. 

DINNERS  "A  LA  RUSSE." 

"When  was  this  fashion  of  dining  introduced 
among  ns  ?  I  recollect  it  was  adopted  by  a  few 
high  families  about  forty  years  ngo ;  and  1  upod 
to  hear  that  the  noble  and  amiable  John,  Earl  of 
Shrewsburs',  was  the  first  person  of  note  who 
patronised  it.  I  own  I  heartily  wish  it  had  never 
found  its  way  to  England,  to  the  subvcrciion  of 
our  good  old  John  Bull  dinners.  To  me  it  is  a 
perfect  nuisance.  The  only  recommendation  at 
all  plausible  in  my  view  is,  that  it  saves  the 
trouble  of  carving  to  those  principally  at  the 
ends  of  thu  table.  This,  however,  is  of  small 
weight  when  set  against  the  inconveniences  en- 
dured by  the  company  in  general.  I  own  I  like 
to  see  the  smoking  surloin  and  the  goodly  leg  on 
the  table,  and  all  the  other  joints;  and  to  see  the 
carving  done  on  the  table  by  the  master  and  the 
lady  of  th«'  foasf.  and  by  each  one  who  has  a  joint 
before  him.  Who  has  not  onioved  jJoswell's 
account  of  tlie  iiw-ii  meeting  of  Wilkes  and  John- 
son? — 

I 

**  Mr.  WillxT s  "wns  very  assiduous  in  hcipinj:^  him  to 
some  line  voal:  *  I'my  ^ivo  ma  loavf,  sir — It  is  Iw-tttT 
here— A  little  f>r  tlic  brown — Some  fat,  sir — A  little  of  ' 
the  stuflin^ — S<»m«*  ixtavy — Lot  me  have  the  ploasure  of 
givinp:  you  some  butter  —  Allow  me  to  recommend  a 
squeeze  of  tliis  orange ;  or  the  lemon,  perhaps  may  have 
more  zest.' "  *  i 

Now  see  the  happy  effect :  —  | 

"  *  Sir,  sir,   I  am  oblifjed  to  you,  sir/  eriod  .Tohn^on, 

bowing,  and  tuniini^  his  hf-ad  to  him  witli  a  look  for  some  ; 

time   of  *  surly  virtue,'  but,  in  u   short  while,  of  com-  : 

placency."  j 

Even  the  churlish  teinp»T  of  John.son  was  fiiirly  ' 
subdued,  and  he  and  Wilkes  soon  became  even 
great  friend.--. 

Now,  how  would  it  have  gone  on  in  our  days 
at  a  dinn«'V  a  In  Itus.'ifi?  The  old  piece  of  pom- 
posity and  surliness  would  have  had  to  sit  with 
his  hands  before  him  in  iV/zpatient  expeot^tion  of 
somethinix  to  be  (dIVred  by  a  servant  to  his  choice ; 
and  Wilkes,  burning  with  eager  desire  to  find 
some  means  of  propitiating  tlio  idolised  churl, 
might  have  found  no  opportunity  to  the  very  end 
of  the  long  tedious  banquet.  These  dinners  are, 
to  mv  taste,  everv  way  uncomfortable.  It  is  un- 
pleasant  to  have  to  wait,  wait,  wait,  between  each 
arrival  of  something,  for  your  employment.  A 
waiter  brings  two  plates  in  his  hand :  "  Beef  or 


lamb,  sir  ?  "  and  when  you  choose  one,  the  0liMr 
hopelessly  disappears;  though  it  nught  vmOj 
happen  that  you  would  like  to  partake  of  that 
also.  Then  you  can  have  no  chance  of  choonilg 
any  part  which  you  may  prefer.  No  hope  of  "i 
little  of  the  brown,"  or  of  hnding  it  *'  better  haze" 
or  there.  You  are  at  the  mercy  of  the  waiters 
who  are  carving,  and  who  send  you  vrhat  th^ 
please,  not  what  you  might  choose.  If  you  sit 
down,  as  one  should,  to  dinner  with  a  good  appe- 
tite, you  are  tantalised  all  through  with  httle 
bits  at  a  time ;  and  obliged  to  endure  :a  ?wxetched 
suspension  after  each  morsel,  and  trust  to  aatisfy- 
iug  your  hunger  by  an  aggregate  of  small  snatCMS 
as  the  dinner  drags  along. 

It  will  often  happen  again — to  the  mortificatun 
of  a  man  who  wants  to  cat,  as  well  as  to  sit  and 
talk,  and  look  at  the  dessert  and  the  flowexa  and 
ornaments — that,  of  the  dishes  brought  zounds 
two  or  three  or  more  in  succession  may  not  aoit 
his  taste  or  his  stomach.  He  I'efuses  &em,  and 
must  then  wait  and  take  his  turn  for  sometbiag 
that  he  may  like  to  come  round,  ten  minutes  or  a 
quarter  of  an  hour  after  he  has  eaten  anything; 
when  his  patience,  if  not  his  appetite,  is  all  but 
exhausted.  In  the  good  old  style  he  would  see 
and  send  for  what  suited  him,  without  intetrnp- 
tion  to  the  meal,  and  without  risk  of  the  stomach 
palling. 

There  are  other  miseries  in  this  style  of  dining; 
but  not  to  weary  the  reader,  I  will  only  mentiai| 
in  conclusion,  the  unpleasantness  of  having  the 
dessert  before  you  all  the  time,  instead  of  the 
happy  novelty  of  its  introduction  at  the  end; 
besides  which,  the  fruits  themselves  must  lose 
some  of  their  freshness  and  flavour  from  standing 
so  long  in  the  steam  of  heterogeneous  viands.  So, 
having  often  and  painfully  been  subjected  to  the 
evils  uf  I  Russian  dinners^  l' write  this  ns  on  earnest 
dissuasive  from  them.  Still  I  am  neither  a  tfoyr* 
mnnd  nor  a  f/ourmet,  but  your  old  temperate 
correj?pondeut,  F.  0.  H, 

TITl'S  AXDUOXICUS:  THE  AFRICAN  R08CIUS: 

JOE  MILLKB. 

The  Dtn'h/  Couratit,  August  1717,  haa  the  fol- 
lowing advertisement : — 

Dy  Conunand.    By  his  Majesty's  Company  of  Gone- 

diaus. 

"  At  the  Theatre  Boyal  in  Drurr  Lane,  on  TamSMf 
next,  boing  the  20th  of  August,  will'  be  presented  a  Flqr 
callM  Titna  Andmnicus^ar  the  Rapeof  Lavimia.  WrittSB 
I  bv  Shakspoare.  Revised  with  Alterationa.  The  part  of 
I  I'itns  by  Mr.  Mill;  Satummus  by  Mr.  Thormond ;  Bift- 
81  an  us  Mr.  Walker  ;  Marcus,  by  Mr.  Salomon  ;  Locioi. 
Mr.  Ryan  ;  Aaron,  the  Moor ;  Mr.  Qnfai.  To  whidi*  bj 
desire  of  some  Persona  of  Quality,  wUl  be  added  a  FwN 
in  One  Act,  called  the  Stage  Coach.  The  part  of  Sqriie 
Somebody  by  Air.  Miller.  To  begin  at  half  an  hour  lAv 
Six." 

On  the  repetition  of  this  adrertiaeineiit  in  ftft 


I  i«  11 


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423 


Dai^  Cburani  of  the  90th,  the  tTKgedj  ia  sud  to 
have  been  acted  "  bnt  twice  these  fifteen  jean." 
It  wiarepektedonAug.SS,  but  it  does  uot  appear 
to  have  be«ii  perrormed  when  the  company  met 
in  tbe  month  of  Dctober  following. 

It  is  described  on  the  title-psKe  as  "  iUter'd 
from  Mr.  ShakspeareB  works  by  Mr.  Edw.  lU- 
■  Tenacroft."*  As  this  gentleman  was  a  popular 
dramatic  compiler,  if  the  vereinn  of  1717  was 
the  one  just  mentioned,  was  not  bia  name  held 
out  as  an  inducement  to  the  public  to  attend 
the  performance  ?  RayensCToft's  Iioiidun  Ciickoldt 
bad  been,  according  to  modern  y arlancc,  a  great 
success,  and  voam  aft/srwnrds  bud  attracted  the 
notice  of  George  II.,  who  used,  when  he  wanted 
a  treat,  to  order  its  performftnce  for  bis  own  spe- 
cial delectation.  Purhaps  Theobald  may  have 
had  aom«thing  to  do  with  the  revision  and  altera- 
tion of  the  TilM»  Andrvtiicm  acted  in  1717.  How 
any  audience  could  tolerate  this  disnnreeable  and 
disgusting  production,  even  in  tboae  days,  is  aiU' 
prioing. 

One  fact  disclosed  by  this  advertisement  is 
interesting.  Quin,  one  of  the  great  actors  of  the 
last  century,  acted  the  character  of  that  incarna- 
tion of  evil,  Aaron  the  Uoor.  He  bad  previoualv 
performed  ilajaiet  in  Rowe'a  Tamrrlaae  with 
great  fclat,  ao  that  personating  Xamora's   block 

Sramour  was  somewbat  of  a  Fdnking  in  poetry. 
is  apriTt'h ended  he  never  repeated  the  disgusting 
exhibition. 

In  the  present  ccntiiry  on  attempt  was  made  to 
brinp  TOik  Andnmwux  on  tbe  stage.  The  re- 
volting scenes  of  iiece^aity  were  omilled,  and  tbe 
catastrophe  cliaiitjed,  ao  that,  excepting  the  title, 
Taraorn  the  Queen  of  tbe  Goths,  and  some  other 
charactera,  it  bad  a  very  small  resemblance  to  tbe 
original  play  ascribed  to  Shakespeare.  Aaron  was 
acted  by  Ira  Aldridge,  a  man  of  colour,  generally 
termed  the  African  Iliipeius,  the  euceca'tul  per- 
Bonator  of  Otbello.  Lady  Becher  (Miss  O'Seil) 
is  said  to  have  asserted  that,  although  Kean  was 
in  particular  passages  admirable,  "aa  a  whole,  his 
ponormance  waa  not  superior  to  the  Roscius, 
whose  acting  throughout  is  transcendently  excel- 
lent.'' Tho  representation  of  Aaron  was  good, 
but  the  adaptation  was  ineB'ectual,  and  did  not 
Kuccced.     This  exhibition  occurred  in  the  Edin- 

•  Vpm  Dfcwmber  21,  ICafi,  TUut  Andnitlcta  was 
lioffiwd.  and  printed  in  iXn  in  1GB7.  UmvFDKTuft,  in  the 
prtfiiM  tn  hia  vtrainn,  Aoa  not  hesiutc  in  pTlnK  it  as 
hi4  nninion  that  TUat  Aiidrnnint$  wH  not  wtilten  b]- 
a  great  deal  ia 
a  few  pnMBCM, 
1  have  been  told,*'  he  rvmarku,  ■'  hj 
aome  andcntly  cnnvotMnt  irith  ibc  Atgf.  that  It  wu  not 
originall}'  hie,  but  brought  bj  a  piiiste  lathor  to  b« 
■eled,  and  be  only  gave  sama  mMter-toucha  to  one  cir 
two  of  the  principal  put*  or  chancters."  This  ponsiblj 
nay  ba  (rue.    Ra*ea»era(t'a  venlim  is  very  difficult  to 


bwgh  Theatre  ii 

that  time.      Mr.   Aldridge   afierwarda  \  _.    _. 

Russia,  where  he  met  witii  great  success. 

In  the  farce  that  followed  Titia  An<h-oHkii; 
written  by  Parquhar,  and  called  tbe  Stage  Coach, 
tbe  part  of  Squire  Somebody  was  performed  liy 
Mr.  Uiller.  Could  this  be  Joe  MiUer,  who,  it  h^ 
been  laid,  was  a  low  comedian?* 

J.  M. 


Easliest  eecobded  Ixstakcrs  of  Provebw 
AND  CnKisTiAv  NAUKfl.— May  1  ba  allowed  to  sug- 
gest that  "  comers ''  should  l>e  kept  in  *'  N.  &  Q." 
for  such  lists  wt  those  named  above ';  Ue=ide  tbe 
intereat  of  the  subjects  themselves,  these  might 
exercise  (partieulerly  as  to  names)  a  wholesome 
influence  over  writers  of  historiMl  tales.  We 
should  perhaps  have  fewer  heroes  named  Charles 
in  the  reign  of  Edward  HI.,  and  fewer  heroines 
named  Sophia  in  that  of  Queen  Elizabeth.  1 
have  in  my  mind's  eye,  while  writing  this,  a  story 
Tery  good  in  tbe  mun :  the  scene  laid  in  Liindon 
in  the  reign  of  Charles  II.,  and  one  of  the  ladies 
is  named  Clara,  and  another  character  EUie. 

That  I  may  "  conclude  with  a  motion,''  permit 
me  to  add  the  first  instances  aftwoprovcrln  which 
I  have  met  with,  and  of  a  few  names :  ^ 

-  M*n  ppipoMtb  and  G<id  diapOKth."  — Ci>c.  1S3M. 
{Liili  Faytri,  vol.  xiii.  art.  HO.) 

"  It  halh  boen  an  old  prorerbe  tint  tlierc  ia  nu  worse 
pestilence  than  a  famylrsr  mem}'."— I.'ktH.   (lb.  \ii.  ti.) 

Qarc.  OrL  16,  1 7UI}  tCIani  quite  modem].  (KegiitCT 
of  St.  Margaret,  Weitmineler.) 

Loaias,  "Lewes,"  Jan.  9,  lUW.  The  name  evirlently 
Louiw.    tRecister  of  St.  JamcsV,  J'icoa- 


■'■Sa,  Georgr.  AtiiEarl 
^AiariuLic,  uMuf^jiEcr  of  Kinf^  .Tami^  II. 

I       Arab«Uii, '■Orabcl(!,"reignorEdwardI. 
'l       Ijiura,  "  I^ra,"  "  I^retia,"  cjrr.  1200. 
Ucatrire,  eirc.  1100. 

I  Another  interesting  list  might  be  made  of  tbe 
I  iart  recorded  instances  of  nanie.'^  now  obsolete; 
e,  g.  Aliuo,  Amida,  Avice,  Alhreds,  Idonin,  L»- 
derina,  Muriel,  Roisia,  &c. — all  of  which  were 
I  once  more  or  less  common  in  England.  A  largf 
proportion  of  these  obaolete  names  began  with  A. 
,  Alina  may  perhaps  be  conaidered  still  half-alire 
,  in  its  cognate  Eveljm,  as  Adama  is  in  its  diminu- 

Diws  any  one  else  feel  disposed  to  take  np  these 
j  hints?    If  so,  I  may  possibly  enlarge  these  insig- 

;       [•  This  win  that  RnoH-natuiad  fetlOw,  .Torias  Millrr. 
liFIter  kouwn  as  Joo  Uiller,  wbMe  JaU.  nr  Wil't  I'luA-- 
MeauL,  is  itKlfajoke.  as  it  vas  compiled  bi- John  butt- 
le? when  crippled  and  bed-ridden  with  the*  goul.    Tuot 
Joe  alM   made  his  bow  in   tho  (art  q(  XoTmt^^ii^i«^  i 
in  I'arqaliai'a  o»n«&^  <*  TWe  CimulM*  O™^**.  ™  "■"'3  ■ 
\  to  the  JiAilw.   Tot  «.  \ufc  <J(  S-i€«  «Cb«  *™«*J"'-  " 
\  Qeocdia'a  HUtor)  of  tK«  Btiiq«.Va.Mh.— "tB-i 


424 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[ittaiX-XATtf,"?! 


nificant  notes ;  if  not,  they  will  drop  in  silence,  as 
others  have  done  before  them. 

Hebhentbvde. 

Defoe's  "True-born  Englishman." — In  Mr. 

James  Grant's  recently  published  history  of  The 

New8}}aper  Press  (i.  92)  is  the  following  reference 

to  this  work :  — 

'*  The  object  of  the  poetic  efTosion,  or  rather  cfTusion  la 
rhyme,  was  to  hold  up  foreigners  to  ridicule,  and  to 
euloji^ise  King  William  as  the  best  of  men  and  the  very 
model  of  a  monarch." 

This  statement  is  erroneous  so  far  as  relates  to 
holding  up  foreigners  to  ridicule.  The  object  was 
rather  to  hold  up  to  ridicule  those  who,  being 
descended  from  the  various  invaders  of  England, 
opposed,  as  true-born  Englishmen,  the  farther 
settlement  of  foreigners  in  England. 

One  of  Defoe's  biographers,  in  the  preface  to 
his  Voyage  romid  the  Worlds  has  the  following 
remarks :  — 

**  The  work  by  which  he  is  most  distinguished  as  a 
poet,  is  his  True-bom  Englishman — a  satire  occasioned 
by  a  poem  entitled  *  Foreigners,*  written  by  John 
Tuchin,  Esq. 

**  Soon  after  the  revolution,  the  people  who  are  restless 
in  their  inclinations,  and  loathe  that  to-dav  for  which 
they  wduld  yesterday  have  sacrificed  their  lives,  began 
to  be  uncasyat  the  partiality  their  new  king  discovered 
to  his  countrymen. 

^  The  popular  discontent  rose  to  such  a  height  that 
King  William  was  obliged  to  dismiss  his  Dutch  guards ; 
and  tho*  he  died  in  possession  of  the  crown  of  England, 
yet  it  proved  to  him  a  crown  of  thorns,  and  he  spent 
fewer  peaceful  moments  in  his  regal  station  than  before 
his  head  was  environed  by  an  uneasy  diadem. 

"  Mr.  Defoe,  who  had  a  very  true  notion  of  civil 
liberty,  engaged  the  enemies  of  the  new  government  and 
levelled  the  force  of  his  satire  against  those  who  value 
themselves  for  being  true-born  Englishmen.  He  exposes 
the  fallacy  of  that  pre[V3Ssession  by  laying  open  the  sources 
whence  the  English  have  sprung.  ...  He  enumerates 
the  several  nations  whence  we  are  derived,  Gauls,  Saxons, 
Danes,  Irish,  Scots,  die,  and  says  — 

*  From  this  amphibious  ill-born  mob  began 
That  vain,  ill-natured  thing,  an  Englishman.'  " 

Uneda. 

Philadelphia. 

Oaken  Architecture. — At  Newdegate,  near 
Dorking,  is  a  very  extraordinary  piece  of  eccle- 
siastical architecture  in  the  belfry  tower,  which 
I  believe  has  never  yet  been  described.  It  is 
to  be  visited  in  July  by  the  Surrey  Archaeo- 
logical Society,  when  I  trust  that  many  gentle- 
men will  be  assembled  fully  competent  to  appre- 
ciate its  curiosity,  and  to  illustrate  it  by  their 
remarks.  I  do  not  presume  to  give  a  technical 
description,  but  I  understand  that  its  peculiar 
feature  is  this — that  it  stands  upon  horizontal 
beams  or  sleepers,  and  is  framed  together  of  solid 
trees  forming  pointed  arches,  entii*ely  with  tree- 
nails, and  without  any  other  material.  It  is  a  very 
remarkable  example  of  such  arcliitecture  as  the 
abundance  of  timber  in  a  forest  country  suggested ; 


and  I  shall  feel  highly  obliged  to  any  readen  of 
this  paragraph  who  will  mention  any  puiU 
structures  in  Surrey,  Sussex,  ojr  other  countiei. 

JoHK  Ck)uaH  N10HOI& 

Holmwood,  Surrey. 

Clerical  Gustoic. — It  is  the  custom  in  tibs 
United  States  for  married  clergymen  to  sive  to . 
their  wives  all  the  wedding  fees  which  tney  re- 
ceive. lUu  £• 

Philadelphia. 

ABP.  PARKER.  "DE  ANTIQUITATE    BBITAN- 
NICiE  ECCLESLfi,"  1572. 

A  rare  and  curious  book  is  before  me :  -^ 

"  De  Antiquitate  BritannicsB  Ecderiae  &  Prinikrii 
EcolesiiB  Cantuariensls  com  Archiepiscopia  eiuadeoL  ^ 
An.  Dom.  1572.  ^  Excusum  LondLai  in  cdibus  Johu- 
nis  Dav." 

This  title  is  within  a  wide  and  handsome  da- 
vice,  in  which  are  various  emblematical  figurei^ 
each  labelled  beneath:  Ptolemeus,  Aiatu^  flip- 
parchus,  Geometria,  and  Arithmetics,  bemg  on 
the  left  side ;  and  on  the  right,  Marinus,  Stnbo^ 
Polibius,  Astronomia,  and  Musica.  Over  tl» 
title  is  a  terrestrial  globe,  supported  on  each  nds 
by  Ptolemeus  and  Marinus.  Above  it  Time  ^ 
pears,  with  his  scythe  ndsed  to  cut,  attended  uj 
three  other  figures :  one  a  damsel,  with  handker* 
chief  to  her  eyes,  is  in  a  black  gannent.  Behnr, 
a  figure  of  Mercurius  supports  a  firamei  vxthln 
which  we  read :  — 

*'  Absentem  qui  rodit  amioom ; 
Qai  non  defendit,  alio  culpante ;  adatos 
Qui  captat  risus  hominum,  famamq'  dieieis ; 
Fingi're  qui  non  visa  potest;  oommisaa  taoera 
Qui  nequit ;  hie  uiger  est,  huno,  ta  Romane,  cavetai" 

It  is  on  vellum,  and  the  figures  are  bxighth 
coloured.   A  cutting  from  a  catalogue  is  inserteOf 

which  tells  us  — 

'<  The  volume  is  one  of  the  rarest  and  most  iateniting 
books  relating  to  English  Ecclesiastical  EUrtory.  Oaff 
*21  copies  could  be  traced  by  Dr.  Drake,  when  he  •»- 
cuted  an  edition  in  1729;  and  the  like  nnmber  ca|f 
could  be  found  after  the  minute  researches  of  Mr.  Martia. 
The  present  is  a  very  interesting  and  peculiar  oopji 
although  it  has  many  leaves  supplied  in  MS.*  by  a  eo- 
temporary  hand  of  the  time  of  printing.  It  faai  thi 
woodcut  title  or  frontispiece,  pruttbo  ov  velluii  ad 
coloured :  neveral  of  the  copies  known  having  no  title"  It 
has  the  Life  of  Abp.  Parker  in  the  same  ancient  hsadp 
writing ;  following  this,  there  are  some  additional  kavM 
in  MS.  which  Mr.  Martin  foond  in  print  bat  in  one  of  tta 
copies  above  enumerated.*' 

The  appended  Life  of  the  Axchhuhop  oocnpiM 
twenty-eight  leaves,  headed  ^'Matthesoi^''  li 
mentioned  in  Strype  8  aoconnt  of  thia  book  Him 
follow  six  MS.  leaves  headed  **  Scholaram  pnlili- 
carum  extractio,''  and  three  MS.  leavea  of  M 

*  T.  t.  the  title  following  the  oolonrad  p^g%  Mi 

thirty  kaves. 


4*  a  IX.  BiAT  25, '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


425 


index  and  chronology  of  the  lives.  A  printed 
index  completes  the  volume. 

Maj  I  ask  if  any  correspondents  of  ^'  N.  &  Q." 
can  refer  me  to  any  account  of  '^  the  minute  re- 
searches of  Mr.  Martin "  in  connection  with  this 
book  ?  Also,  where  are  any  of  the  twenty-one 
copies  mentioned  to  be  found  ?  Is  there  a  perfect 
copy  of  the  work  in  our  great  national  collection  P 
And  what  is  its  present  value,  either  in  a  perfect 
or  imperfect  state  P 

I  have  also  before  me  a  copy  of  the  book 
printed — 

**  Hanoviie :  Tjpis  Wechelianus,  apod  Claad  Marmine 
&  bseredes  Joannis  Aabrii,  m.dcv." — 

with  the  device  of  the  printer  above  it  It  is  more 
like  the  larger  than  the  smaller  specimen  figured 
in  Dibdin's  Bibliographical  Decameron  (ii.  69), 
though  without  the  encircling  wreath.  On  each 
Bide,  at  the  base  of  the  cornucopias,  i\  a  large 
monogram  ''  W."  and  ''  A."  interlaced.  The  same 
is  repeated  at  the  end  of  the  book.  This  is  per- 
fect (pp.  358  and  index).  At  the  end  of  the 
introduction,  on  pp.  37,  38,  are  large  woodcuts. 
The  arms  of  the  various  bishoprics  are  arranged 
with  those  of  the  Archbishops  of  Canterbury  and 
York.  Those  of  Abp.  Parker  are  on  a  large  scale. 
I  should  add  that,  in  the  first-named  book,  a 
fine  old  portrait  of  Abp.  Parker  is  inserted  on  a 
blank  page  before  the  coloured  title.  It  is  a  half- 
lexigth :  he  is  seated,  turning  over  an  open  book 
(P  Bible),  at  a  table,  on  which  is  also  a  writinff 
box  (very  like  a  modem  tea-chest),  a  bell,  and 
(what  looks  like)  a  large  stamp.  On  a  window- 
ledge,  at  his  right  hand,  is  an  hour-glass.  The 
portrait  is  in  an  oval  frame ;  around  it,  in  small 
capitals :  — 

"  MUSDUS  TRANSIT  ET  CONCUPISCBTIA  BIV8.  AVaiODO- 
XTSI  1572.    ^TATIS  SVJB  ANNO  69.    DIK  MENBIS  AVOVSTI 


SEXTO. 


i» 


S.  M«  S. 


[The  history  of  this  rare  and  carioas  volume  has  been 
frequently  discussed  by  bibliographers  and  others.  The 
share  of  Archbishop  Parker  in  its  compilation  baa  been 
a  matter  of  considerable  dlspnte.  In  one  of  his  Iftten 
he  states  it  to  have  been  the  amnsement  of  his  leinire 
hoars;  and  Dr.  Drake,  in  the  preface  to  his  edition 
(1729),  is  of  opinion  that  Parker  himself  was  the  author, 
bat  received  assistance  from  Dr.  Georee  Aokwcnth  and 
Joeselvn,  bis  secretary.  In  Masters's  Ifigiorjf  ofCormu 
Chrisii  Colleae,  Cambridge  (edit  1881,  p.  Ill),  there  is  a 
discussion  of  the  authorship  of  this  book  at  considerable 
length.  It  is  said  that  only  twenty-two  copies  were 
printed  by  John  Day ;  but  in  all  probability  there  were 
fifty.  A  list  of  those  existing  at  the  present  timt  is 
given  in  Martin's  Catalogue  of  Prioatdy  PruUtd  Booki^ 
edit.  1854,  pp.  3  .to  §.  A  presentation  copy  to  Qoeen 
Elizabeth,  bound  in  embroidered  vdvet,  as  well  as  Lord 
Aronders,  are  in  the  British  Mosenm,  and  anoUier  in  tha 
Grenville  library.  It  is  remarkable  that  scareelv  aqgr 
two  copies  of  this  rare  book  entirelv  agree  la  their  ooa- 
tents.  QoTkfnltO%\}om%*%Cataloffu$6ibl¥3fUiBomBatkkmmt 
iU.  pp.  2  to  4,  an  article  probably  by  William  OUyit 
HooVs  Lwe»  of  the  Arehbiakopi  of  Omitrhv^  is.  W{ 


Chetham  Popery  Trade,  part  ii  p.  522;  and  Bohn*B 
Loumdes,  p.  1776.  A  copy,  formtffy  Sir  B.  Twysdea's^ 
not  seen  by  Mr.  Martin,  wanting  portrait,  sold  in  Part 
▼L  2837,  of  Heber's  collection,  for  seven  pounds.] 


Atmosphxrio  Phenokska.— What  causes  aie 
supposed  to  prodace  the  following  oommon  atmo- 
spheric phenomena  P — 1.  The  halo  round  the  moon 
presaging  wet  weather.  2.  A  peculiar  green  oolonr 
m  the  sky,  also  a.forerunner  of  rain.  3.  l^uret*- 
taU  cloucb)  indicating  wind.  ToBWOOBi 

Ball  Family. — Can  any  of  your  readers  infom 
me  concerning  the  Ball  family  of  county  Arma^P 
I  read  of  Thomas  Ball  of  Glasdromon,  circa  ImO : 
John  Ball  of  LoghroaSi  circa  1700 ;  Thomas  Ball 
of  Usker,  circa  1750;  and  Rev*.  WiUiam  BaQ, 
rector  of  Drumglass,  d.  1821 ;  and  should  he  Teij 
glad  to  learn  something  concerning  their  marriages 
and  issue.  H.  H.  Ball. 

LeytoB  Hoase,  Albion  Boad,  Stoke  Newingt(m. 

Bloox  oir  THB  QBAPXy  xra — Can  any  one  giTa 
me  information  as  to  die  nature  of  uie  Uoom 
fanned  on  the  grapoy  peach,  or  pluni.— is  it  a 
vegetable  or  an  animid  growm  P  O.  W.  G. 

BinuAL  Cusioxs.— At  Exford.  near  Minehead, 
Somerset,  ten  years  ago,  it  had  been  usual  for 
burials  to  take  place  on  SundayS|  the  burial  ser- 
vice being  dovetailed  into  the  usual  aftemooa 
service  thus: — The  corpse  being  brought  into  ' 
church  was  placed  in  front  of  the  zeading^-dssk^ 
and  remained  there  during  the  service.  Tlie 
burial  psalms  were  read  in  lieu  of  the  psalms 
for  the  day,  and  the  burial  lesson  in  lieu  of  the 
second  lesson.  The  burial  service  was  concluded 
after  the  sermon,  and  the  entire  bongregatioii 
would  generally  remain  to  the  end. 

This  custom!  was  told  had  prevailed  for  yean, 
beyond  the  memory  of  the  oldest  inhabitant — 
and  that  would  have  been  ve^  nearly  a  centuzyi 
as  there  were  nonagenarians^  if  not  centenarians^ 
living  there  at  that  time — and  not  only  in  £zfozd,t. 
but  in  all  tibie  parishes  on  Exmoor :  and  notwitli*  ^ 
standing  that  i  endeavoured  to  anow  unto  tlM-' 
people  ^a  more  excellent  way,"  especially  bj 
aakmg  them  to  have  their  bunals  on  week«dim 
they  were  strongly  attached  to  the  custom,  ana  1 
should  not  be  suiprised  if  it  i^erails  there  still— 
so  inveterate  does  an  old  custom  become. 

It  would  be  interesting  to  know  whether  die 
same  has  been  ^the  use''  in  other  distriets. 

In  one  or  two  parishes,  I  think  it  HandsworCh, 
near  Sheffield,  and  at  £kford|  ]>at  am  now  qoita 
uncertain^  it  was  customary  to  cany  the  ooipae 
within  the  oommunion-xttUk  where  the  betNn 
turned  and'caaiad  it  baek  agam  to  its  usual  restiii|p- 
place  near  the  door.  Oaa  any  readers  infonn  om 
in  what  parisiMi  this  eaatom  obtains,  and  wlwt 
WIS  the  flri|^  and  rignifkianfle  of  UP  Hm  It 
nffalnptfld  fa  ft  MiBiBliSoM  iseliQCi  iv  pn-ielfa^ 


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mation  times,  that  the  defunct  would  be  benefited 
by  having  his  remains  brought  near  the  altar  P 

Francis  J.  Leachman,  M.A. 
20,  Compton  Terrace,  Highburj-. 

Burning  Invalids. — ^About  1767  a  complaint 
was  made  to  the  authorities  at  Chelsea  Ilospital 
by  the  invalids  composing  the  fsrarrison  at  Ply- 
mouth, that  their  commanding  officer  was  "  burn- 
ing them  at  the  rate  of  twenty-one  a  week." 
Upon  which  the  Commissioners  at  once  ordered 
the  practice  to  be  discontinued.  What  was  the 
practice  referred  to  ?  B.  I. 

'^Carl  the  Marttr.'' — I  am  anxious  to  ob- 
tain a  poem  entitled  "Carl  the  Martyr."  Can 
any  one  inform  me  where  I  could  get  it  ? 

J.  Clare. 

Cockroaches.  —  The  vile  cockroaches,  alas! 
have  found  their  way  to  my  books,  and  are 
nightly  feasting  upon  the  leather  backs.  I  have 
been  advised  to  strew  red  wafers  in  their  haunts 
as  a  certain  poison,  and  they  eat  these  with  great 
relish,  but  return  again  the  next  night  for  a  fresh 
repast,  and  apparently  take  no  harm.  If  any  of 
your  readers  can  suggest  a  certain  and  safe  remedy 
for  these  abominable  marauders  it  would  doubt- 
less benefit  many  sufierers  besides  11  V. 

"The  Colours  op  England  he  nailed  to 

the  Mast." — I  have  lately  found  a  small  print, 

fairly  executed,  of 

"John  C'rawfofl  of  Sunderland,  Durham,  the  sailor 
who  nailed  the  flu^  to  the  maint.op-f:c>illant  masthead  on 
board  the  Venerable,  Lord  Duncan's  ship,  after  being 
shot  away  by  the  Dutch  Admiral  de  Winter,  October  11, 
1797." 

The  man  is  striking  the  nail  with  the  head  of 
what  is^  I  believe,  called  a  marling-spike.  Is  any 
earlier  instance  recorded  of  such  an  Homeric  act  ? 

The  Knight  of  Morar. 

"  Jane  Conuuest." — Who  is  the  author  of  this 

poem?  II.  BowKER. 

28,  Museum  Street,  Ipswich. 

Death  in  a  hollow  Tree. — The  logend  of  a 
man  meeting  his  death  by  becoming  fixed  in  a 
hollow  tree  seems  to  be  common  to  various  locali- 
ties. The  Lausanne  Gazette  recently  published  a 
Swiss  legend  of  this  class.  Is  there  any  wull- 
authenticated  case  of  such  a  catastrophe  P 

James  Henry  Dixon. 

English  or  Inglish's  Chelsea  College. — 
llobert  Inglish,  or  English,  Comptroller  of  Chelsea 
Hospital,  published  A  View  and  Desrn'ption  of  the 
Royal  Ilospital  at  Chelm/  about  1C*.)4.  Of  the 
**  View,"  which  is  somewhat  in  the  nature  of  a 
ground  plan,  there  is  a  copy  amonjr  the  maps,  &c. 
of  the  King's  Library  in  the  British  Museum, 
which  is  marked  "Drawn  by  Robert  Inglish, 
Comptroler  (sic)  of  the  said  Ilospital,  engraved  by 


John  Sturt."    Where  is  a  copy  of  the  "Denrip- 
tion  "  to  be  seen  ?  T.R 

The  Grand  Secret. — Which  ancient  or  modem 
philosopher  was  it  who  said  shortly  before  hia  ' 
death  "  I  shall  soon  know  the  grand  secret  P  " 

J.  a 

Heraldry:  the  Lioness. — ^Ib  there  any  ex- 
ample of  the  lioness  in  heraldry,  or  any  alinriim 
in  the  old  works  ?  I  have  not  been  able  to  find 
any  in  Holme's  Academy y  or  in  any  of  the  ordinair 
books.  The  arms  of  a  well-known  Welsh  and 
Shropshire  family  are  vazioualy  given  as  — 
"  Arg.  a  lion  rampant  vert,  vulned  in  the  mmdk 
gules  '* ;  "  Arg.  a  lion  rampant  vert,  vulned  in  the 
bread  gules '' ;  "  Arg.  a  Hon  rampant  vert,  volned 
in  the  ahotdder  ^ules";  but  there  b  a  tradition 
in  a  branch  of  this  family  that  it  is  a  lumess.  Any 
hints  wojidd  greatly  oblige.  T.  £.  M. 

Mr.  Long  Htde*s  Marbiaoe.  —  In  a  letter 
from  Hoger  Boyle,  first  Earl  of  Oireiy,  dated 
London,  May  I6J 1065,  is  the  following  passage : — 
'^Sunday  the  articles  of  marriage  between  Mr. 
Long  Hyde  and  my  Lady  Hariot  Boyle  wero 
signed."  What  day  of  the  month  was  that  Sun- 
day ?  and  did  the  marriage  take  place  in  Claren- 
don House  Chapel  ?  Edmund  N.  Boylm. 

Rock  Wood,  Torquay. 

Sir  Conters  Joceltn  :  Cavbbidoe  Justiubb. 
Where  can  I  iind  a  pedigree  of  the  family  of  Sir 
Conycrs  Jocelvn,  Bart,  of  Hyde  Hall,  Sawbzidge- 
worth,  from  the  creation  of  the  baronetcy  to  ttie 
time  of  his  death  in  1770  ?  Also  where  can  I  aee 
a  list  of  the  justices  of  the  peace  for  the  county  of 
Cambridge  during  the  seventeenth  century  P 

T.BL 

Jones. — Had  Col.  John  Jones,  the  regicide,  a 
wile  prior  to  his  marriage  to  Roger  Whetstone's 
widow,  CromwelFs  sister?  If  so,  who  was  sheP 
and  when  and  where  did  she  die  ?  It  is  said  he 
had  three  sons — William,  who  came  to  New  Eng- 
land with  Whalley  and  (iotfe ;  John,  from  whtm 
descended  Sir  William  Jones  of  India,  and  Morgan, 
grandfather  of  Rev.  William  Jones  of  Naylaad. 
Do  any  records  or  proofs  exist  to  verify  or  hUmfy 
this  statement  ? 

In  the  State  Paper  Office,  among  Paneia  of 
time  of  Charles  II.,  Domestic,  lii60-l,  toL  zzt. 
No.  49,  is  a  petition  by  Sir  Thomas  Whetstons^ 
in  which  some  allusion  is  made  to  his  hanng' 
petitioned  for  possession  of  the  estate  of  his  stsp- 
father.  Col.  John  Jones.  What  are  the  exaflt 
contents  and  statements  of  this  petitumP  It  ir 
inferred  the  petition  for  the  estate  ma  duoA 
Was  it  because  Col.  Jones  left  lawful  isaoe  bj  lis 
iirst  wife,  who  were  not  debarred  of  the  eatete  bf 
reason  of  their  fathers  attainder P 

Jimx  J.  Lai 

64,  Madison  Avenue,  New  Toik,  UJJL 


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P.  Lafargue,  M.D. — On  the  south  side  of  the 
chancel  of  Enville  church;  Staffordshire,  just  be- 
neath the  mutilated  churchyard  cross^  is  a  brick 
tomb  with  a  plain  stone  slab;  bearing  the  follow- 
ing inscription : — 

"  Christo  duce  sub  cruce  morior.  P.  Lafargue,  M.D. 
Patria  profugas,  Anno  l?!!." 

Any  information  which  would  throw  light  upon 
the  sad  history  briefly  shadowed  forth  in  these 
touching  words  will  be  thankfully  receiyed.  My 
own  idea  is  that  Dr.  Lafargue  was  one  of  the 
Huguenot  refugees  after  the  revocation  of  the 
Edict  of  Nantes.  He  may  possibly  haye  settled 
in  the  quiet  village  of  Enville  under  the  patronage 
of  the  then  Earl  of  Stamford. 

Oswald  M.  HoLDEiTy  M.A.,  B.C.L.,  Oxon. 

LEADENnALL.  —  Will  you  allow  me  to  ask, 
through  the  medium  of  your  widely  read  jounud, 
the  true  origin  of  the  name  ^'Leadenhall''  in  Lon- 
don P  In  a  conveyance  (a.d.  1408)  by  Kobert 
Rockeden  and  Mftrgarethis  wife  to  Richard  Whit- 
tington  and  others,  citizens  of  London,  Leadenhall 
is  mentioned  as  a  ''  manor."  Was  it  a  part  of  the 
possessions  of  Hugh  de  Nevill  before  his  marriaffe 
with  Joane,  daughter  and  heiress  of  Heniy  de 
Comhill  ?  •       A.  W. 

[According  to  Pennant,  Leadenhall  takes  its  name  from 
a  lar^o  plain  building,  inhabited  about  the  year  1309  by 
Sir  Hugh  Nevill,  Knt. ;  and  in  1384  beloD|^g  to  Hum- 
phry Bohun,  Karl  of  Hereford.  In  1408  it  became  the 
property  of  the  munificent  Whittington,  who  presented 
it  to  the  mayor  and  commonalty  of  London.  In  1419  Sir 
Simon  Eyre,  a  draper  and  Lord  Mayor  of  London,  erected 
here  a  common  granary — a  square  plain  bnildiiig  of  stone, 
with  a  turret  at  each  angle,  which  was  lighted  by  small 
windows  of  two  lights.  It  had  also  a  chapel  on  the  east 
side.] 

Sir  RicnARD  Lee. — ^Wanted,  the  parentage  of 
Sir  Richard  Lee  the  ambassador,  drca  1560. 

H.  BiLLoir. 

Luther. — 

*•  In  the  Vatican  a  Bible  is  preserved  in  which  the  fol- 
lowing prayer  is  inscribed  in  Lather's  own  hand-writing: 

'*OGott!  dnrch  deine  Gate, 
Bescher  uns  Kleider  and  Httte^ 
Auch  Mftntel  and  Rikske, 
Fessc  Kftlbe^  imd  B&cke, 
Ochsen,  Schilfe,  and  Binder, 
Viele  Weiber,  wenig  Kinder. 
Schlechte  Speise  and  Trank 
Machen  einem  das  Jahr  lang. 

From  the  Dictionnaire  HUtorique  par 
VAhhe  F.  X,  de  FelUr,         C.  M." 

A  friend  has  sent  me  this  extract,  and  wishes 
me  to  inform  him  whether  onch  a  Bible  and  in- 
scription exist  W,  St.  T. 

The  Loyino  Wives. — ^Wanted  the  name  of  the 

city  the  women  of  which,  on  its  surrender,  were 

allowed  to  carry  out  their  grei^fceat  tioaenie,  md 

each  wife  brought  her  husbimd  oat>  !EL 

[The  story  of  the  ftdthftd  wlyes  ildio  oiniid  antthrir 
husbands  on  their  shoulders^  as  their  dearest  nd 


valued  possessions,  will  be  foand  in  No.  dO^  of  77<e  Spec 
tator.  Through  a  typographical  error  doubtless  jBfeiw- 
berg  instead  of  Weinsbera  is  there  stated  as  the  name  of 
the  locality.  At  Wdnsberg,  in  Wttrtemberg,  are  still 
shown  on  the  summit  of  a  hill  the  rains  of  a  castle,  which 
is  also  known  by  the  name  of  "  Weibertreae,"  or  Woman's 
Faith.  Daring  the  Guelpb  and  Ghibelline  wars  the  castle 
was  in  114Q  besieged  by  the  Emperor  Conrad  II  Im  who,  in 
his  exasperation  at  the  protracted  resistanee  made  by  the 
garrison,  vowed  to  pat  all  the  men  to  the  sword,  but  pio- 
mised  to  spare  the  lives  of  the  women,  with  the  engage- 
ment,  moreover,  that  each  should  be  permitted  to  cany 
oat  along  with  her  her  dioioest  treasure.  The  oflte  was 
accepted,  and  each  woman  marched  out  with  her  husband 
on  her  shoulders.  The  tale  is  probably  not  much  moire 
aathentic  than  that  of  Lady  Qodiva's  sdf-abnantioD^ 
and  is  related  of  other  places  in  Germany  besides  Weins- 
berg.  A  pictuie  in  the  principal  chorch,  painted  in  the 
seventeenth  eenturr,  rSpresents  the  circnmstanoes  re- 
corded in  the  iMend ;  and  about  fifty  yean  ago  a  soeie^ 
was  institaled  in  the  place  with  the  doabfo  obieat  of 
oommemorattog  the  heroic  astateneis  of  the  Wemsbsfg 
ladies  in  the  olden  time,  and  affording  relief  to  poor  mamt 
who  had  distlDguiahed  themselves  by  fidelity  and  sel^ 
denial.  The  incident  has  been  made  by  fittiger  ih» 
sabfect  of  one  of  his  ballads,  entitled  iMe  Wmberwm 
Wemtberg  (The  Wives  of  Wehubm),  which  has  also  been 
spiritedly  rendered  into  English  by  Itr.  Brooks.  Sea 
Hipley's  Spedmem  of  Foreign  SioMdard  IMerOturt^ 
VOL  xiv.,  •*  Songs  and  BaUads.'O 

Mastib  of  ihx  Lobash,  bto. — Can  any  of  your 
readem  give  me  any  information  on  the  (^fiee  of 
Master  of  the  Leash ;  and  the  meaning  of  a  ^M 
cord  and  running  button  worn  in  portraits  of  ti^ 
sixteenth  century.  The  cord  oomee  from  the 
neck  to  the  waiBt  H.  Dillok. 

Mb.  MiLBirBH*8  Castle. — Can  Mb.  Ociatius 
MoBGAH  or  any  other  antiquary  inform  me  what 
casile  or  house  in  Monmoutnahire  is  alluded  to  in 
the  following  account  of  the  defence  by  its  gar- 
rison, which  I  copied  from  a  parliamentary  (Round- 
head) journal.  The  Co%mty  mesietwerf  Oct  4, 1644, 
and  apnended  as  a  note  to  p.  171  of  my  royalist 
story,  Domimgtfm  CatUef^^ 

"A  garrison  of  onn  ....  ahouse  bdonghig  to  Mr. 
Milbam  •  •  .  •  where  40  of  onr  foot  soldierB  and  two 
small  troo^  both  oonsirting  of  but  60  hofse,  with  whom 
powder  and  diot  being  scanty  a  matde  of  the  hoQs^  braill^ 
them  a  bag  foil  of  six  pound  weight,  and  siipUed  ma 
men  with  lead  ont  of  the  glass  windows  ana  moltsa 
pewter,  with  whldi,  togetherwith  stones  out  of  the  hoosa 
andsoa^ng  watovtiMy  kept  the  eneffly  off  oatfl  we  aaSM 
toreUevetoem.  TheawelUlu|KMitMni,]dUiBdmaiif  of 
them,  and  pnisasd  the  rest  thns  aiflMk  I  Bef«r  saw 
(saith  the  writer)  the  swmd  oat  and  desliw  so  many. 
The  Welsh  rogae8.biiiiit  two  iloks  of  Mr.  Mumim's  oonu 
Oar  goveraor  (i.  c.  of  MowDooth)  gave  the  maid  two 
pisoss  ibr  her  powder,  and  hath  taken  hor  into  fait  ssr- 
vk»{  ho  also  IdMd  her  Ibr  tiM  good  ssrrioo  she  did,  and 
so  did  afl  the  nsfe  of  tha  eoamanden." 

QjMI.  OGMfXBf  CoL  RA. 

Nivev  MB  ifBrauB  ionfr  BuvB  in  Tmaamm, 
Is  the  kntseii  tie  jitesuittttotaf  beMfefite^ 

nMK  OBIB  OOCMIIOBSSIf 'iseei^  sCMmHHmiib  eesHF  eOSfc 

liflk  a  Htm  of  kaflgii|^«0 


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[4*  S.  IX.  Mat  25,  W. 


edrtx  rerum.  Where  do  the  authors  get  their 
information  ?  Kavensbourne. 

"  TnK  Office  of  the  Holt  Week." — I  append  a 
copy  of  title-pnpfe  of  a  "holy- week  book  "in  Enjr- 
lish,  and  shall  be  plad  if  F.  C.  H.  will  kindly  let 
me  know  (in  **X.  k  Q.*')  if  it  is  in  any  way 
curious  or  valuable,  rep^ard  beinj?  had  to  date  and 
othpr  circumstanciis.  Thus,  in  the  Address  to  the 
Iveador  are  tht'se  words — 

"  A  ppivon  (if  (|uality  prave  it  to  the  public  Romo  rears 
ago;  and  tho  last  voar  added  what  he  found  defective  in 
hid  former  impression." 

The  address  i.-*  si^rned  "Thine  in  Christ,  B.  L." 
"The  Oflice  of  the  Holy  Week  according  to  tlic  Roman 
Missal  and  Ureviary.    i      iT     c    Pormissu  Superiorum. 

I/)ndon  :  I'rinted  by  Henry  Hills,  Printer  to  the  King's 
Most  Kxcrllent  M.ij'fsty  for  His  Hold— [so  for  house]— 
Iiold  nnd  ChnppoUand  to  be  soUl  at  his  Printing  hou>c  in 
the  Ditch  side  in  Hlaolc  Fryers.     IGS-S." 

I.  G.  N0TU8. 

Papal  IU'lls.  —  Is  there  any  easily  accessible 
list  of  Papal  Hulls  ?  I  mean  especially  those  of 
the  sixteenth  century.  1^.  H.  KxowLES. 

St.  lU'es. 

Old  Provfkr.— In  a  collection  of  proverbs, 
precisely  two  huiidrt^d  years  (>M,  I  met  with  the 
following,  and  shall  bo  glad  of  an  explanation 
thereof.  Is  tliere  anything  peculiar  in  tho  con- 
struction r)f  Edy».*x  stiles 't — 

"Xorf.dk  whilos,  Kentish  miles. 
And  Ksii4-x  stiles,  many  a  man  beguiles." 

J.  Cjiarles  Cox. 

Hazel  wood,  l^elper. 

[Grose,  in  his  Pmrincud  Clnsmry,  art.  "  Essex.*'  tells 
US  that  "  two  very  different  explanations  are  given  of  that 
part  of  this  proverb  which  relates  to  t^ssex.  The  first 
says  the  inclosures  iu  E-jhox  are  very  small,  and  the 
stiles,  consrtjueiilly,  very  frequent,  and  being  also  very 
high  and  bad,  an*  extrem»^ly  troublesome  to  strangers. 
The  other  is.  thnt  by  stiles  are  meant  narrow  bridges, 
such  as  are  laid  betwet^n  marsh  and  marsh  in  the  hun- 
dreds of  this  county,  only  jocularly  called  stiles,  as  the 
loose  stone  wnll.-*  In  Derbyshire  are  ludicrously  called 
hedge."     See  also  IJohn's  NanJltook  of  Proverbs ^  p.  t»J.] 

PROVERHS. — 

*'  San  .Tuan  y  Corpus  Christi  tode  en  un  dia." 
"The  foasts  of  St.  John  and  Corpus  Christi  all  in  one 
day.''     I  An  expression  used  on  occasions  of  greilt  joyj] 
"Qtintid  (tcorge  Diou  emancipera 
()u*'  M.irc  1p  ressuscit*.Ta, 
Kt  qiip  St.  Jean  le  port«'ra. 
La  fill  ihi  moTidc  nrrivera."' 
«»Tf  (;nod  Fiid.iy  falls  on  St.  (Jeorge.'s  Day,  [Corpus] 
Chrisii  lalls  on  .st.".Fohn's,  and  the  end  of  the  world  will 
•come."     f  The  first  two  facts  will  bo  realised  in  1886.] 

Th»*  first  of  these  proverb-?,  with  its  explana- 

thn^  is  from  an  old  Spanish  dictionary  dated  17'59; 

tAe  fiernnd  from  a  uRck  number  of  "  N.  &  Q." 


PuDSAT,  OR  PuDSET  Familt.  —  A  friend  haa 
sent  me  the  following  le$rend  from  two  old  bells 
at  Bolton  by  Bowlands,  Yorkshire : — 

1.  lii  iSce  Paule  ora  pro  alabos  Ilenrici  Podsej  et 
Margarete  consorte  sae. 

2.  lit  S<>e  lolSno  baptis.  ora  pro  aiabus  lotlne  Pudsej 
militc  ct  Marie  consorte  sue. 

I  cannot  find  in  the  Rscheat  Roll  Calendars 
any  mention  of  these  worthies,  but  I  am  informed 
they  were  of  Bolton  Hall ;  that  one  of  the  family, 
Sir  Kalph  Pudsey,  sheltered  Henry  VI.  a  long 
time,  and  it  was  at  a  ford  close  to  Cljtheroe  that 
the  poor  king  was  betrayed  by  a  Talbot  (?)  of 
Bushally  after  which  he  was  taken  to  London  and 
put  to  death.  The  loyal  Pudsey  lies  at  Bolton 
under  a  slab  of  mountain  limestone,  engraved  with 
the  figures  of  himself,  his  three  wives  and  twenty- 
five  children — all  portrayed  in  the  habits  of  their 
several  portions  m  life.  The  glove,  boot,  and 
silver-gilt  spoon  left  hv  Henry  at  Bolton  are  still 
in  the  possession  of  the  representative  of  the 
family.  11.  T.  Ellacombe. 

rThese  bell  memorials  of  the  ancient  family  of  Pudaay 
of  Bolton,  in  Craven,  are  imperfectly  printed  iii  Wbitaker\t 
History  of  Craven,  eiiit.  1805,  p.  100,  where  will  be  fonnd 
A  pedigree  of  the  Pudsay  famih-f  and  another  in  Thore»- 
by'a  TJucatus  Leodiensis,  by  Whitaker,  edit.  1816,  p.  255.'] 

Quotation.  —  Where    can    the    following   be 

found? — 

**  The  opal-hued  and  many-tiutcd  morn 
From  gloom  is  born." 

J.  H. 

Red  Deer. — Epitaph  in  Hault  llucknall  churchy 
near  Chesterfield,  Derbyshire,  on  a  mural  tablet : 

**  In  Memory  of  Robert  Hackett,  Keeper  of  Hardwick 
Park,  who  departed  this  life  Dec*^  v^  21,  Anno  Doin. 
1703. 

"  Long  had  he  chas<'d 
The  red  and  fallow  Deer, 
But  Death*8  cold  dart 
At  lost  bar)  fixed  him  here." 

Were  red  deer  (wild)  common  in  this  part  of 
the  country  in  the  seventeenth  century,  and  what 
weapon  was  most  commonly  used  in  hunting 
them — the  cross-bow  or  harquebus? 

Francis  J.  Leachman,  M.A. 

"Ttie  Rest  of  Boon n."— Wanted  the  name  of 
the  American  poet  (brought  up  to  the  law  but 
now  deceased)  who  wrote  the  poem  called,  or  each 
stanza  ending,  "  The  Rest  of  Boodh  "  ? 

RicuARD  PniLLirs. 

Rice  Family. — Any  information  with  refer- 
ence to  the  genealogy,  arms,  crest,  motto,  &c.y  of 
the  Rice  family  of  Derby  will  be  most  acceptable 
to  A  Desgendaitt. 

ScoTTisn  JusTTCES. — ^Have  any  lists  been  pub- 
lished of  the  Scottish  justices  of  peace  during  any 


Cm  roil  holp  me  to  any  explanation  of  the  d\ft-  \  ^ottioxv  ol  VV^  %«^wit«ftnth  century  P    My  a um- 
sgreement  between  them,  or  to  any  corresponding  \  t^oi^  ^«?5;^^^^   '^^^       ""    ^^Ja^SS^^ 
proverbs  m  other  languagea  ?  A.  S.   \  «^^  ^^-  fe^'iTi^^^^'i^^iMSi. 


4<^  3.  IX.  Mai  26,  '72.] 


KOTES  AND  QVS&IES. 


429- 


Story  of  a  Sculptor. — Some  years  wnce  — 
twenty  very  likely — there  wee  aa  article  in  one 
of  our  mAfrazmea  which  conttuned  a  Stoiy  of  a 
sculptor.  His  studio  was  visited  by  a  mat  lady^ 
who  had  a  very  beautiful  bust,  which  flie  fashion 
of  that  day  disclosed  more  then  is  the  mode  now 
in  walking  dress.  He  was  so  smitten  with  the 
lady  and  her  figure,  that  thereafter  be  moulded 
bnsts  to  an  almost  incredible  extent.  Where  ia 
this  artielo  to  be  found  P  Eatessboobbe. 

Thk  SmBOL  0?  Peace. — The  following  strange 
procedure  ia  related  in  The  WuUm  UaH  of 
April  24, 1872.  Will  any  correspondent  give  the 
ongin  of  this  eitraordinary  symbol  of  peace  P — 

"Conaiclerable  aiDoument  wu  CBnwd  darlDg  tbe  heir- 
Ing  of  an  assiialt  case— Anne  Flawen  d.  Eliia  VFairrD. 
Complain  ant,  who  resiilea  at  Moantiia  Ash,  depowd  tbit 
ihe  had  t>e«n  on  diauct  lenns  with  deftodant  for  nrenl 
weeka,  duHng  which  period  the  latter  bad  ununad  a 
rather  hostile  spirit  towards  Mrs.  Flowna  bj  going 

her  honse,  and  reproving  her  l^nentlj  fw  torn 

inglj  ima^^nar?  oSeaoe.  On  the  lat  of  April, 
that  matters  had  reached  an  unpleasant  climax,  Ihe  cuui- 
plainant  declined  anv  further  parley,  and  anxions  to 
■void  pointed  qaarrelling,  enapended  a  bnub  onCside  b<i 
loor.  This  proved  an  additional  Inoenlive  lowirdi  In- 
ireasing  defendant's  rage,  and  aha  resorted  to  violenca. — 
Dr.  Fowler  asked  why  the  bmsh  had  been  hnne  oat  of 
lie  door,  to  which  the  complainant  said  that  it  UKnifled 
10  with  to  quarrel,  and  in  her  part  of  Mm  coantry  (Bath) 
his  'aweeping'  medinm  of  peace  was  frcqaentlj  adopted, 
(t  was  a  symbol  of  a  desire  for  peace,  and  if  penons  hal 
iffenalve  communtcatians  to  roaka  '  thev  moat  please  t« 
iddrsBs  it  to  the  bruah.'— Mr.  Simons  ala'o  remarked  Ihaa. 
t  was  intended  as  a  caution  for  persons  to  pat  on  th 

•est  manner? Corroborative  evidence  was  given  of  U. 

lasank.afier  which  defendant  proceeded  to  crosa-axaniiH 
ler  adversarj,  and  nuhBequentl]',  with  much  wanntli, 
lenonnced  another  witness  as  a  wielced,  bod  slnt,  am- 
ibosisin^  this  expreaaion  by  a  heavy  whack  with  her  flat 
.n  the  edf^e  of  the  dock  )  at  which  point  bis  worship 
ocnlariy  interposed,  remarking  that  if  Hia.  Warren  per- 
isted  in  such  a  spirit  the  Bench  must  really  send  for  a 
<nub.  From  further  facts  elicited  in  connectioD  wllh 
be  case,  their  worships  eonetuded  that  provocation  k'' 
■een  given  bv  CL>in  plain  ant,  in  conjanction  witii  her 
isans,  aod  dismissed  tbe  charge." 

R.ft 

DlSSENTINO   MnilSTEIta   in  PAKLIAIfBKt— 

he  current  number  of   the  EAvAwgh  Jbi 
April,  1672),  in  an  article  on  "  Mr.  MuOl  CH.^jb- 
stsblishment,"  the  writer  says  (p.  871),  "  A* 
}  Biftt  there  are  numerous  instwices  of  "*— — 
oinisters  who  have  ttiken  their  seaU 
if  Commons,  and  defended  their  ow» 
here."    Is  it  not  a  fact,  on  the  conb^,  < 
uch  instances  are   exceedingly   rare,  aadf  Oi 
nly  in  the  case  of  prominent  advocate  at  ani 
al   movementa   and   well-known    i 
ipon,  such  as  the  late  W.  J.  I 
lenry  Richard  and  Edward  1        > 

Newark. 

TiBTOiAL  VxBSEa. — Sathei 
er  of  a  century  siDce,  a  i 


|Mlt  of  towa  ahamberlfun  of  a  borough  in  Banff- 
•Un,  f«To«nd  me  with  a  copy  of  verses  of  a  tee- 
Mai  diwMlar.  'n'hethei  they  were  composedly 
or  B^ed  by  him  I  never  knew.  I  ahonld, 
r,  ano)  like  to  procure  another  copy,  bav- 
b(  loat  tbs  ae  I  had.  It  is  possible  some  reader 
or  "N,  A  ^"  may  be  a.ble  to  oblige  me  in  tbe 
■attar.  I  g^  only  recall  to  memory,  with  any 
•Httfa^  tW  fe&un,  which  is — 

"tlMMDoetbnl  IrenooDcetbeet 
Ok  I  mon  thiioe-envenomed  bowl  t " 
Ha  '^Kmt,  i^  a  rale,  began  with — 

■  By  il  the ." 


8b  \lttimuL  Ttlbb.— Can  any  one  inform  me 
'  ■UpUte  concerning  Sir  WilUam  Tyler^Knt., 
e  aeem-  **  "f**  tt  the  time  of  Henry  VIL  and  Henry 
floding  I  ^WIL,  if  ■ajthiog  of  his  anceetry  can  be  d»- 
amMA,  «  the  histoir  of  the  ftmily,  and  what 
nit  aaaMir  they  bore  r  Any  information  will  be 
IhaufctWr  leceived  by 

n  Bmax,  1S8,  Qower  St,  EustonSqnan. 


AaBi        I 


Srpltcf. 
'  JOHN  DIX. 

.       3.11.294,866.) 

irhetber  tfaia  peraon  ia  dead, 

corretpoodent   Makkochkis,  in 

in       im  the  mind  of  Mk.  THOBiranKT 

the  queeticHi  .__   

Cbatterton,  from  which  alone  he 
1         interest  he  may  possess  for  the 
n      ture.    It  is,  however,  well  worth 
ui  carefol  inveatigatora  to  ascertui) 
uue  writer  in  qaeetion  has  sneceaded  in 
io  inextricable    a  confusion  u  Hx. 
ubT  despondently  deacribes  at  the  doae 
iitereating  paper.    Sorely  in  these  daya  of 
•did  exact  inquiry  it  is  not  beyond  POiB- 
o  separate  bet  from  fiction,  even  in  k  "  con- 
angled,  aod  carrnpted  "  a  Inogi^iliy  a> 
I  AMt  of  ChaUtrbm;  and  one  need  not  mi- 
er  in  the    ~        "     " 
nmaiMing  al 
Hat  t  "To 
dlr,  however,  it  clea^  doea  not ;  i 

a  he  ibaU  be  "inftaitely  oUiged  to  anj 
IV  wiU  flnd^foi  Um  avene  w  what  be 
deemi  poetij  in  all  Oliattaitae'a  writliiga—whidi 
"  *  IK  like  aikiag  to  be  abova  paiticnlar 
^  diamatie  pawn  *■  "*  '  "'- 

don,  Ifa 

lanHMtwUek  k*  hvd  not 


430 


XOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


[4!*  S.  IX.  Hat  25^  "Ri 


r. 


pofetn- — b»;autv  which  it  i^,  therefore,  b^otlebs  to  ^  «•  sOXyET. 

{><iiDt'oat  t'^  him  in  detail.  ,  (On  Visititig  ike  School  at  Bruiol  in  irAtdb  dke  Poti 

Ma.  II.  S.  .Skii'TO.v,  in  his  search  for  small  in-  .  ChaUerton  was  Bred.) 

where  a^  in  scorn  wen  thiowa 
Cuatterton ;  and  here  I  see, 

ripti 
lh»;  tir-t  odition  of  iJix'.s  Li/i-y  sa  beinir  an  "^vo 
ib!ii!i'.-d  in  iJii-itol, — he  him?»Mlf  d»fi»cribin-^  it  a-  - 


Mil.  Ji.  .^.  .-^Kii'Toy,  in  uis  searcn  lor  sman  la-  .  c** 

.'iccu:a(:i'i-  in  Mi'^  Thorn ra'RY'.s  paper,  has  shown  .  "  iVe  view'd  the  pit, 
more  alarltv  than  acumen.  In  the  Hrbt  place  he  !  The  bon«  of  Cbatt 
iiiuU  fault  with  .Mr.  TnOKSBCKY's  d-.-Scripti-jn  of  ■      W here _ first  the  Mi 


a  l-'.'ii  I.     'i  h»;  fact  i<,  that  he  ha-s  fall*^ii  isito  tn'* 
vul^'Ji.- trriJ.r 'if  tile  b-jok-eller's  ciuiitMi-inon,  whi> 
jj'L'Ji'.-raijv  i.rr  ih'j  t'iriii   IJmo  to  d».-ai^^n.ite  whitt 
puWi^-ii'-r-  ri.-'htly  chII   fnol-cap   Svo,   and   what 
Mr.  TjiohN-Mi.-j'.v  calls  corrrctly  ^'niujh  a  '•>hort  : 
-ivij.'"     \i  Mii.  Skiiton  had  looked  jit  the  M;-'na-  ^ 
turj-,  h"  V,'  mhi  have  found  that  th'.-y  ocjur  onc<j  i 
in  f-ixi*;*-!!  p.'i/''.s;  thu-s  8howin;r  tu'.'  .-;!i*:«.t  to  he  i 
fold':' I  ill  'rij-lit,  and  not  in  twulve.     As  r'^rards 
th»:  \}\:u-'-  •■■:'  ]»u]jlir:ation,  he  say.*-  '•  No  nii-ntion  is 
nun!"'   '.'■  h:   ]>.;in;r   published   at    Uri-t'  i'*;   but 
n«;itli"»   i-  '-any  iin;ution  made  of  it.?  In-iiiJf  pub- 
li.'li"d   iji  ■■   h'indon.     The   titlj!-pa/-%   which   is 
iMC'i/r.-filv  :r.iMscrib«d  by  Mu.  Si-;i :•:■;>'.  I'L-ars  it 
i.^  tru",  ;..•    iiiijirint  of  llaniilloii,  Adams.  «fc  r.'*). 
«il"  Ij'jM'I'i:,:  Ijui  ihi;  dfMlication  is  d.it-rd  "  jJri.-t'd, 
l/r-'J?,'"  liii  i  tin;  pn;face  "  Hristol,  O.-tnb'T.  '■^•■»7": 
and,   i'.  :K;:ij-  also  ut  the  fact  that  tin-  bo- 'Ic  was 
prijii'- 1  a:  iJ/istol,  whtjre  Chatlijrt'iu  lif-raturi- is 


MiLses  marked  him  fur  their  own, 
Km'*r;nng  frum  the  dawn  of  infancy. — 
Children,  he  once  was  blithe  as  nnw  ye  are. 
The  lire-beam  t^Iitt'rini:  in  his  ardent  ere:, 
but  Gailt,  and  Melancholy,  and  Di^p-iir, 
pt'intin:;  their  future  prey,  pajis'd  darkling;  br. 
Ah  !  what  i*  genius  ?  Tis  a  burning  brand, ' 
lAk**  that  the  cherub  bore  to  j^oard  tho  way 
To  Paradise.    If  ^ace  support  the  hand 
That  wields  it,  then  it-i  nidiant  fl.im-^  shall  plaw 
III  irJory  ronnd ;  el.«.^  shall  its  Ii«;htnin^  bar»U 
And  beat  thtfir  victim  down — scach'd  and  accnriC. 

**C-  V.  L.  G. 
*■  IJristol,  July  L»2nd,  1820." 

Twelve  years  later^  the  author  of  this  somiet 
appears  to  have  had  another  (though  minor  in- 
.«uiration);  for  on  the  tlysheet  of  my  Dix'a  X^ 
apparently  sent  as  a  present,  are  written  the  two 
couplets :  — 

Dear  Sharpe,  this  work  by  Mr.  Dix 
Perhap*  will  in  your  menVry  fix 
The  trifles  which  did  once  cn<;a|!:e 
The  ardours  of  our  youthful  ai^e. 

*•  C.  V.  Le  Gkick,  May  30, 1838." 

These  scraps  may  have  some  microecopie  Wr 


4< 


rilway-  \v...iii  more  thiin  else  when*,  it  is  jiot  un-  ,  terest  for  Chatterton  collectors. 


r»'!i.-i.i;ii»j!«-  t)  su])pose  that  the  buok  wa  ^  lirst 
,riv"ii  tt  •  ■;.:  ]aibli(;  there,  and  just  as  much  •*  psib- 
li.-hini  ■■  i1im:v  as  in  I^^ndon.  In  the  matter  n."  tin? 
purt:j»il,  'lid  Mk.  Skii^tox  observe  Mr.  Tnoi:>'- 
iiui:v"^  >t  it-ment  that  Dix  had  himself  h:irl  *<  iln^ 
.shaiiiel''--:;i"..4  almost  openly  to  avow''  that  it 
WMS  a  r<»;-.r»'ry  :•  That  being  the  ca^so,  tlien3  doi-s 
not  >»'t'i'i  to  b^!  much  necessity  for  any  one  cl'»e 
**ti  i»o!:.-i-  <.i'c(mtradict  the  words  underneath  t^ie 
portrait."  -v.. :  "  Krom  a  picture  in  th'^  V'^-'-'^ession 
of  (Jcor/-  \\'»*are  Hr.ickenbridf^'o,  Kiiq.,"  ••.-pt'ciaUy 
as  '•  lJrai'l.--iibrid;;e"  is  not  the  name  of  tlh*  po=*- 
M'.'sor  —  ill*'  word  is  an  enjrraver's  mistalie  for 
UraiiM-nrifi-*'.  Mu.  Tiiornhuky  ^'ivrs  tli«;  ludi- 
crous hi-:  -ry  of  the  picture,  and  it  does  n«>l  much 
matt«'r  i:it)  whose  hands  it  mij^ht  have  fall«Mi. 

Kor  a  'v;  ell -sifted  and  trniliful  Life  of  (Miat^ 
terlon."  Mi:.  Skfpton  mijrht  be  referred  to  l^ro- 
fe.«jH)r  \Vi [lion's  rather  than  any  other.  It  is  drv, 
and  ]ia>  n.i-t:ikes  in  it,  but  is  certainly  "  widl-sifted 
{mdtnithiiir'  in  the  main:  for**  a  critical  edition  "of 
(>hattert.i;i's/ro/'A;/<,  one  can  scarcely  imn;;ine  any- 
Ihxly  askini:  in  a  h<iptdess  sense,  wJien  it  was  only 
last  ynr  that  we  }^ot  the  admirable  edition  of 
Mr.  Slieat :  which,  by  the  bye,  has  an  excellently 
well-hifhd  short  memoir  by  Mr.  Edwanl  Bell. 

I)i.\'rt  /.ift\  like  all  other  Chatterton  literature, 


H.  Bv^TOIf  FOBXAV. 


MONOLITU:  DUNLOP. 
(4*  S.  ix.  360.) 

In  makin;^  this  communication,  Dr.  DinBt^f 
letter  to  Dr.  .John  8tuart  reirarding  the  9fMi8 
Circles  of  Scandinavia,  and  which  the  latter  in* 
serted  in  his  JSculptvred  Sttmes  of  ScotUmd^  mn 
heedh'ssly  passed  oyer  by  us.  In  that  IsttH^ 
"Ilof  and  ''Uiir^''  are  mentioned  as  iraiidt 
constantly  occurrint^c  in  juxtaposition;  and  wUdi 
latter  Dr.  Dasent  would  have  to  import  a  bmSdmc 
of  stones  which  was  roofed,  and  mifrht  be  buMf 
and  not  t(^  refer  to  a  tione  circle.  But  in  tUi  be 
is  opposed  to  views  entertained  bj  other  gml 
Scandinavian  archseologists,  as  Finn  Magnwft 
Figilsson,  Munch,  and  Maurer.  The  fbnner,  H 
]f'];,'ilsson  says,  holds  that  the  horgar  (the  pL  noa- 
of  hiirfrr)  are,  some  of  them,  aliars  or  «foiM  M^ 
and  others  the  shrmes  of  northern  divinities  BOt 
roofed,  but  yet  surrounded  with  huge  stones  nlaBsd 
coluinnarly ;  while  Munch  and  Maurer  call  bSigt 
a  circle*,  a  place  of  worship. 

Now,  it  does  not  seem  wantiiur  in  piobabifilif 
that  Hiirgr,  and  the  terms  Ogar,  Thngar,  or  Iks- 


girt  have  the  same  o      ).  whatewr  tfaiTaOTlih 
is  more  or  less  hard  to  get  at  a  moment's  notice.     And  alon^""  with  th  aj  be  eoMliHilFtti 


-        -    '.4' 


^ 


li-a.  IX.  MAr25,'7!.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


43] 


n&me?  applied  to  some  atone  monoliths,  and  which 
are  memioiied  by  ])r.Stuart  io  theHcalpiiired  fSlone$ 
under  the  head  of "  Early  Pillara  find  Crosses," 
whert  1  C"iir3  the  Lgkar,  or  Lecker-atane  (two  near 
Abernethv,  two  at  Lindores,  and  others  in  other 
parts),  as  well  as  the  Lisgarikmie.  This  last  is  the 
same  pi'i.ibably  as  lykar  or  Ificker,  only  differently 
cuiTupti'd  being  in  ditferent  localities,  first  in  pro- 
nunciation, and  next,  and  consequentially,  in  ortho- 
graphy, and  ii  said  to  be  a  tall  monnlith  in  that 
moor  iu  Aberdeenshire  on  which  the  battle  of  | 
Unrelaw  iu  1411  took  place.  Forsooch,  JiiUia's  i 
Huf,  or  Hoirff,  called  otherwise  Arlhiii-'s  Ooii, 
which  rti>od  on  the  Carron  Water  ntar  ^tirlinff, 
and  the  figure  of  which  is  well  known,  shuiild 
not,  ia  this  matter,  be  forgotten.  Whilu  several 
holii  it  a  Honian  temple,  others,  taking  aid  from 
the  liiiter  denomination,  would  ascribe  to  it  a 
ditH-i-ent,  and  somewhat  later,  origin. 

ESPED.IBK.      ' 

EsrEiijRE  will  find  some  very  Taliiable  inform- 
ution  on  the  Ogar  (it  probably  is  "  Ogan '')  Stone 
in  Allies'  Folklore  of  Woret^enhire,  second  ed., 
J.  I'iirker,  1S52,  8to. — a  most  delijrhtftil  boiik. 
(Qui-rj-,  ;-  the  worthy  author  stiU  alive  i)  See 
p.  i'Ol.  The  pretiz  "  U^''  is  fouud  in  the  namea 
of  many  places,  e.j.  Hog-more  (Wrci^terahire), 
Og-wcii  ( (.'amarvonl,  Ogor,  Ognioor  Town  (Gla- 
morcnii.  It  is  cither  connected  with  Ugo,  a  BntJsh 
word'=  lace,  or  Ogmiiis,  the  Hercules  of  the 
GftuU  {•:/,  "Ogre,")  otherwise  called  Ocham. 
Dghnm  ^^tones  are  found  in  S.  Ireland  and  Wales. 
Cf.  a  work  by  I-ady  Chatteilon  on  Oghimt  Interip- 
tions,  and  also  Journal  Arc/iieuioi/,  Ituiitllt.  iii.  1 71)  ; 
vii.  4(Bt,  xi.  116,  117.  With  Ogo  =  ■'  sea  cave  " 
cf.  'r.-,iif,  '^ttvot  (old  names  for  the  sen  in  Greek), 
■fiKtairii,  utid  perhaps  'r.^i^iji.  With  Ogham,  the 
hero  t'f  tile  Gauls,  1  would  compare  "  Og  "  in  the 
Sible.  I  have  searched  carefullv  among  mv  books, 
but  can  L-et  no  further  with  tb'is  word.  In  4"  3. 
ix.  -1J,  E".  Pl.  1'.,  to  whom  EMrEDARB  refers,  seems 
to  be  too  raah  in  connecting  l,6lor,  red,  &c.,  with 
Sutiipium.  Tliat  word  is  di:H;ussed  in  A  Corner  of 
Jient  by  J.  E.  Plauch^,  Hardwicke,  ISftl,  which 
cam  be  procured  from  Messrs.  Reeves  &  Timier, 
11)6.  Strand,  for  'n.  or  (!s. 

Itutupiniu  was  a  very  stormy  coast,  and  ila 
name  w.i,j  not  confined  to  one  spot  in  Kent,  but  is 
also  found  in  the  Portus  Bntubus  in  Africa  (Plin. 
Nai.  Hid.  v.  15),  a  Sicilian  city,  Hutupt,  mentioned 
by  'Elinn,  and  Rutuba,  the  old  name  of  the  Raya 
which  fulls  into  the  Gulf  of  Genoa.  In  Varro, 
Rutuha  =  "  tumult,"  "  disorder,"  connected  witb 
rumor,  rau-cus,  Sanskrit  n*  or  rmc,  "  to  utter  a 
sound  " ;  Lierman  iii»i,  A.-S.  hryman. 

n.  8.  Skiptoit. 

TinOi  i.Vltage,  Clieltenham. 


HtBEltT  DK  BURGH,  i™p.  JOHN. 
(4"'  S.  ix.  219,  286,  330,  350.) 

I  sec  at  p.  i'iii  a  note  from  Tewabs  in  which 
some  genealogical  statements  of  mine,  as  to  loj 
family  name,  are  spoken  of  as  replete  with  errors. 
Now  in  the  first  place  the  blame,  if  blame  there 
be,  rests  with  Sir  William  Belham,  aa  the  follow- 
ing shows :  — 

"  I,  Sir  William  Bctham,  Kaigfat,  attenduit  on  tbe 
most  illuBtrioiuOraerorSt.  Patrick,  Ulster  King  of  Anns, 
and  principal  hersld  of  oil  Irelaad.  do  herebj  verti^ 
tbst  tbe  foiegoing  pedigrse  of  the  family  of  De  Bnigh  is 
f»ilhfollj  exiracied  from  tha  ncords  of  my  office,  and 
compiLred  Ibi^rewitb  this  ITth  div  of  July,  1U48. 

"  W.  Betuaji,  Ulster  King  of  Arma  of  all  IrelanJ." 

This  pedigree  was  made  out  on  the  occasion  of 
my  father  and  his  brothers,  &c.,  taking  the  namo 
of  De  Burgh  instead  of  Burgh.  Vide  DMin 
GazeUe,  Uarch  6, 1S48 ;  War  Office,  London,  do. 
May  25. 

Now  let  uH  see  exactly  what  Sir  Wm.  Betham 
asserts.  Tewabs  sa^s  that  Arlotta's  husband's 
name  was  De  Conteville:  I  always  understood  ha 
was  so  called  because  the  family  were  hereditary 
counts  of  tumtu,  viUes,  or  burght  of  Normandy ;  in 
which  case  Harlowen's  title  mi^ht  be  either  Ds 
Ville  or  De  Burgh.  Be  this  as  it  may,  Betham's 
pedigree  goes  on  as  follows :  — 
"  Hajrlowen  de  Burgb  "  Ailotta. 


Robert 


,   I 


d  Earl  of  Kant  by 


loirh,  or  do  Bi    „  , 

his  brother  the  Conqusn 

William  de  Borgh,  of  de  Burgo,  Earl  of  Cornwall. 

A0elma3  de  Burgli,  or  de  Burgo. 


Hubert  de  Buish.  o 


Ib  Burgo,  eldest  lau. 


•  Cf.  Cornish  "OgDa"= 


sa  aloDg  tbe  sb 


Habert  de  Burgh  (the  jnitieiary)." 
Now  (according  to  Sir  William)  Fits  Adelm  de 
Burgo,  who  went  to  Ireland  with  Henry  II.,  was 
the  eecoitd  son  of  j\.delm  de  Bui^,  the  grand- 
father of  the  justiciary.  If,  as  Tgwabs  says, 
neither  Harlowen  the  Conqueror's  step-father,  nor 
Fitz  Adelm  the  chief  governor  of  Ireland,  had 
tbe  name  of  De  Burgh,  how  does  it  come  that  the 
immediate  descendants  of  both  have  thatnameP 
Surely  the  Earl  of  Kent  and  Odo,  the  Conqneior'a 
half-brotheie,  were  De  Burghs.  Surety  tbe  Earls 
of  Ulster,  the  immediate  descendants  of  f^ti 
Adelm,  bore  the  name  also. 

I  do  not  wish  to  trespus  too  much  on  your 
space ;  but,  if  Tbwabs  wishes,  I  can  give  him  Buy 
further  information,  at  least  as  tar  ss  Sir  Wm. 
Betham's  document  goes.  I  am  no  Bntiquarr. 
and  will  be  much  obligied  to  Tzwabb  iFhe  wiQ 
set  me  right;  as  it  ia  very  difficult  to  find  much 
information  on  genealogy  npwpg  tbe  Irish  gentrTj 
who  (U«,  u  a  mle,  mora  iwt  to  talk  about  then 
origin  than  to  prove  their  clsiraa. 

Hbbxbi  Johs  db  Bdx«s. 
S,  Warwid  Teiraee,  Dublin. 


432 


NOTES  ANQ  Ql^EBIES.  [4»  s.  ix.  May  25,  •?«. 


Lord  Likftenant  (4"»  S.  ix.  220,  249,  283, 
326,  373.) — Thi«*,  as  a  philoloj^ical  question,  is 
not  uDintcrestin^r,  and,  though  nearly  exhausted, 
not  quite  so. 

Writers  on  EnLrlisli  history  dilfor  as  to  the 
plural  of  tlio  wonl.  Ilallam,  as  U.  M.  T.  has 
pointed  out,  use<i  ••  Lords  Lieutenant."  llapin 
speaks  of  *'  Lord  Lieutenant'*,'*  and  Clarendon  of 
'*  Lords  Licutt-nnnts."  So  that  thrre  is  authority 
of  a  kindred  cliiiractor  for  each  form  contended 
for.  The  first  of  these  forms,  liowtjver,  must,  as 
it  seems  to  ni^,  he  discarded,  for  it  assumes  the 
word  Lieutennnt  to  he  an  afij(?ctive.  But  it  is 
surely  not  all-iwahlo  to  arpue  in  favour  of  this 
assumption.  H.M.'s  lieutenants  of  the  Navy 
and  Army  nii^lit  he  left  to  do  battle,  if  necessar}', 
for  their  suhstMrjtive  rank  ;  hut  the  matter  is  cou- 
lluded  by  the  lad  that  the  correct  legal  designa- 
tion of  the  fillice  in  question  is  "  Lieutenant  of 
the  County,"  tlie  word  '^  Lord  Lieutenant  '*  being 
used  in  commoii  parhmce  to  distinguish  that  par- 
ticular speries  of  Lieutenant  either  from  all  other 
Ijittutenanl.s,  or  merely  from  the  Vice  or  Deputy 
LieutenMnts.  This,  then,  seems  to  dispose  of 
Hallam'H  form  of  phirnl. 

As  to  the  other:*,  if  "  Lord  Lieutenant"  is  one 
compound  woni,  I'apin's  usage  is  correct.  If  it 
consists  of  two  distinct  and  separate  words,  Cla- 
rendon's plural  should  be  adopted,  unless  indeed, 
as  suggested  by  Mu.  Oak  lev,  *'  Lord  "  should  be 
considered  an  adj^•ctive.  I  submit,  however,  that 
so  violent  an  assumption  na  this  is  unnecessary. 
The  fact  that  many  Commoners  hold  Lieutenan- 
cies of  Counties  shows  that  the  word  "  Lord " 
does  not  in  this  instance  mean  *'Peer,"  and  it 
seems  to  follow  that  it  is  merely  a  prefix  showing 
the  dignity  of  the  office;  and  taking  all  the 
analogous  titles  which  occur  to  one's  mind — I>ord 
Mayors,  Lord  Chancellors,  Lord  Keepers,  Lord 
Wardens,  l^ord  Bishops,  Lords  Marchers,  and 
Lords  Justices,  the  weight  of  evidence  seems 
strongly  in  favour  of  the  compound,  as  against 
the  double  8u}>st4intive,  and  the  plural  will  in 
that  case  be  "  Lord-Lieutenants." 

"  Lords  Justices  "  has  been  stereotyped  by  the 
Act  of  Parliament  creating  the  office. 

*'  Lords  Marchers  "  is  apparently  made  up  of 
two  substantives  in  apposition,  and  like  many 
other  legal  t^rnis  has  a  somewhat  barbarous  sound, 
and  is  now  obsolete. 

The  J^ords  of  the  Treasury  are,  I  believe,  tech- 
nically styled  *'  liOrds  (Commissioners."  But  in 
this  case  the  word  Lords  is  by  common  consent 
adopted  as  the  principal  substantive,  the  second 
word  being  dropped  in  common  parlance.     C.  S. 

The  following  is  a  confirmation  of  my  statement 
(p.  320)  that  the  official  designation  of  a  lieutenant 
of  a  county  is  not  that  of  "  Lord  Lieutenant "  :— 

"  ff^At'tehnli,  M/yO.— The  Queen  has  been  pleased  to 
direct  letters  patent  to  he  passed  under  the  Gteat  S«a\ 


appointing  William  Comwallis  West,  Esq^  to  bo  Llcfo- 
tenant  and  Costos  Rotalomm  of  the  Countv  of  Denbieh, 
in  the  room  of  Robert  Myddelton  Biddulph,  Esq^  oe- 
ceased." 

T.  F. 

Gray  Friaes  of  Bewmakan  (BrechmackaitP) 
(4*»»  S.  ix.  360.)— I  should  suggest  that  the  Fran- 
ciscan Friary  at  Bewmakan,  dedicated  to  St. 
Columba,  and  the  cell  at  Fumess  mentioned  by 
Pope  Eugenius  IV.  in  his  bull,  1153,  are  two  dis- 
tinct houses.  The  latter  is  dedicated  to  St.  Cair- 
nre,  a  disciple  of  St.  Patrick,  to  whom  the  cell  at 
Kilchairpro,  co.  Sligo,  was  dedicated.  A  curious 
question  arises  respecting  St.  Cairpro.  Is  he  the 
son  of  Cairpre  Mac  Nell  who  gave  St.  Patrick 
Granard,  co.  Longford,  to  erect  a  church,  where  a 
certain  wicked  woman  presented  him  with  a  hound 
ser^'ed  np  in  a  dish  for  liis  dinner,  which,  when  he 
examined,  he  suspected  that  he  had  been  mali- 
ciously presented  with  an  unclean  animal,  and 
kneeling  on  a  certain  stone,  prayed  that  God  might 
restore  the  animal  to  life,  and  to  the  astonish- 
ment of  the  assembled  multitude,  a  greyhound 
sprang  to  life  ?  St.  Patrick  caused  the  animal  to 
be  killed  on  the  spot,  and  then  pronounced  a 
solenm  malediction  on  the  mountainous  region  in 
which  this  insult  was  offered  to  religion,  and  on 
the  race  of  C^airbre,  its  chief.  It  is  still  believed 
by  the  neighbours  that  this  curse  remains  over 
these  mountains,  which  causes  them  to  remain 
more  barren  than  other  Irish  mountains,  and  over 
the  people,  which  keeps  them  in  a  more  rude  and 
intractable  state  than  those  of  any  other  territoiy 
in  Ireland.  Would  A.  E.  G.  aid  me  in  this  in- 
quiry ?  (^AnnaU  of  the  Four  Maders,  note  by  the 
editor.)  '  AVilfbid  op  Galwat. 

"  Gradus  ad  Parnassum  "  (4***  S.  ix.  370.) — 
The  playful  humour  of  Gradus  ad  Par»-ASS-tiffi 
given  to  the  world  by  Mr.  Bates,  makes  me 
curious  to  know  who  are  the  "others"  with 
whom  it  is  said  to  have  originated.  My  experi- 
ence has  not  confirmed  the  line  satire  of  "  others.*' 
The  Oradus  found  dunces,  no  doubt,  and  left 
them  unchanged.  But  it  has  assisted  in  forming, 
I  believt>,  the  versification  of  eminent  scholars  for 
many  generations.  D.  P. 

Monastic  Inventories  (4»*»  S.  ix.  360.) — "  To 
open  and  spar  the  book " :  probably  to  open  and 
set  open,  or  fasten  back  the  book.  See  Wedg- 
wood's IHctiimary,  "Sparred,  barred,  bolted^ 
R.  3320  ";  Tyrwhitt's  Glossary  to  Chaucer. 

"  Saumpeler  work,"  on  a  towel.  What  in  achoola 
is  called  ''a  sampler,"  from  exemplar,  cxemplaire, 
a  pattern.  Johnson  has  several  examples  of  the 
word  from  Shakespere,  Milton,^aqd  Pope. 

'*  Crased  and  gamysshed  " :  — 

^^  \  vm.  i\^\.  vksx  that  the  pot  was  erased^* 


4*  S.  IX.  Mat  25, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


433 


**  EcrasS,  broken,"  Tyrwhitt,  ti.  s.    But  Wedg- 
wood has  on  the  line^ 

"  And  some  said  the  pot  was  crazedf**^^ 
as  from  the  same  tale,  these  remarks :  — 

"  Earthenware  at  the  present  day  is  said  to  be  crazed, 
when  the  glaze  is  disfigured  with  a  network  of  small 
cracks."— ZWcf.,  p.  180. 

"When  the  quire  doth  fery."  Can  "fery" 
mean  *^  accompany,"  take  part  in  the  service  ? 

KM. 

'^  When  ;the  Quire  doth  fery,"  means,  I  haye  no 
doubt,  when  the  choir  keeps  feriaSf  that  is,  days 
on  which  no  festival  occurs.  F.  C.  H. 

BeebtJug  Inscriptions  (4***  S.  viii.  pastim; 
ix.  20,  170,  250.)— I  have  a  puzzle-;jug,  dated 
1775,  in  a  fanciful  shape,'  which  Dears  the  follow- 
ing inscription  around  a  figure  of  the  sun,  viz. : — 

<*  God  save  the  king,  I  say, 
God  bless  the  king,  I  pray, 
God  save  the  king?' 

I  have  also  another  of  similar  design,  with  the 
date  of  1789,  bearing  the  following  inscription, 

viz.:  — 

"  Fame,  let  thy  tmmpet  sound  I 
Tell  all  the  world  around. 
Tell  Rome  and  Franoe  and  Spain, 
Britannia  scorns  their  chain ; 
All  their  vile  arts  are  vain. 
Great  George  is  king. 
1789.*' 


I  have  also  a  large  and  very  fine  richly  orna- 
mented brown  jug,  which  is  copied  and  engraved 
bj  the  Anastatic  Drawing  Society,  and  published 
in  their  volume  for  1858^  and  is  thus  described, 
viz.:  — 

**  Cup  uskd  at  James  I.'s  Coromatiow  Bastqubt.— 
This  cup  was  preserved  for  a  long  period  in  the  antient 
Cornish  family  of  Bonithon,  now  extinct,  one  of  whom 
pfficiated  at  the  coronation  banquet  of  James  I.,  and  is 
now  in  the  collection  of  Edward  Galson,  Esq.,  East  Qiff, 
Teignmoath.  It  is  of  brown  stone  ware,  with  the  impe- 
rial eagle  displayed  in  the  centre,  supported  by  lioiw. 
On  each  side  are'  two  large  shields  of  armorial  bearings 
aormonnted  by  a  crown.  The  date  1598  is  under  the 
handle." 

I  have  also  a  very  old  beer-jug,  and  cup  to 
match,  covered  with  raised  enamel  in  colours,  in 
the  centre  of  which  is  the  name  of  ''Thomas 
Alsop.''  This  jug  and  cup  were,  doubtless,  made 
by  a  potter  as  a  present.  £.  GuLSOir. 

Teignmoath. 

Villa  (4*»»  S.  ix.  360.)— A.  E.  G.  asks  what  it 
the  "correct  rendering"  of  this  term  "in  medi- 
seval  documents'';  and  we  cannot  answer  more 
satisfactorily  than  by  referring  him  to  the  glos- 
saries of  Spelman  and  Ducange  {w,  "Villa,"  et 
''  Villanus,"  Sp.  Vide  also  Madox's  Form,  Am^ 
p.  260,  No.  445.)  Here,  however,  we  may  aod, 
and  that  shortly,  from  Spelman  (in  case  these 
glossaries  may  not  be  conveniently  obt8mabIe)| 
that  what  the  Angli  and  Galli  called  a  vQIOf  ire 


gloss  by  manenum^  Anglicd  manor,  and  manmm  ; 

and  that  what,  by  the  Eomans  was  called  a 

viUam,  the  Germans  called  Hohoj  Oba,  and  JSo- 

hunrui.    The  old  Saxons,  it  would  seem,  adopted 

the  Roman  acceptation  of  this  term,  namely  ^x 

«  Pro  prsBdio  nnlns  alicujoa  in  rare,  cum  idoneia  «dibiia 
ad  reponendos  ^usdem  fractua  honestato:  non  antem 
primitna  pro  mmtanim  mansionam  connezicnie,  quod  In 
oppidis  potioa  expetendnm  esseV'  etc 

But  the  Romans,  it  may  be  also  added,  had  two 
kinds  of  vitta:  the  one  they  called  urbana,  tibe 
other  nuHca.  So  had  our  Saxon  and  Noimaa 
forefathers :  the  one  being  the  Urroi  dommiealet, 
which  we  now  call  "demesne,"  or  (Scoticdl^  ''the 
Mains";  and  the  other  manntm  mdomtoafyim. 
There  was  also  the  FiUa  Begia,  where  the  kings 
of  England  had  a  seat,  and  "  held  the  manor  in 
their  own  demesne"  (Kenneths iW.  .^n^.  Ohaa,). 
And  in  Scottish  mediasTal  charten^  this  term  was 
often  applied  to  the  ^;xanges  (anmgia)  or  home« 
farms  of  the  monastenes,  whi^  cannot  be  better 
explained  than  they  have  been  W  Ftol  Cosmo 
Innes  of  Edinburgh  (JSeoUand  m  M.  Afm^  p.  13^. 

ESPSDABS. 

"Fiat  Jttstfeia,  buat  GaELTJii''  {^  S.  i.  94) 
We  had  an  interesting  note  on  this  proverb  some 
time  ago.  I  believe  that  we  owe  it  to  some 
ancient  jurist,  though  I  have  not  been  able  to 
trace  it  to  its  true  source.  I  find  it,  howeveri  in 
a  somewhat  difierent  form  in  a  small  yolume  of 
proyerbs  by  Leibe :  —   - 

"  Johumia  Ldbi  Stiid6ntica»  h.  e.  Apophthsffmatay 
Symbola,  et  Froverbia,  gennanioo-JatinA-itauca.  (x>bai& 
1697,  l»i»o.'» 

In  this  Yolnme  it  appears  as  a  Latin  hexameter: 

<*  Fiat  Juatitia,  pereat  licet  integer  orbis." 
There  is  another  form  in  which  it  appears : 

"  Fiat  Jostitia,  pereat  mundna." 
If  any  of  your  correspondents  can  refer  to  the 
following  works,  to  which  I  have  not  access,  we 
may  possibly  get  the  true  origin  (^  this  proverbial 
expression.  I  am  aware  that  they  are  in  the 
Advocates'  library  in  Edinborgh :  — 

**  BeicuUB  Juris  tarn  CSvilis  qoam  Canonid  a  diveni8» 
viz.  Bartbolomao  SooIikh  PMro  Duensa,  eto.,  fbL  Log- 
duni,  1666,"— 

or — 

<*  B^gaUe  Juris  tam  Civilia  qoam  Pontiilell»  tz  iiatai 
et  aliia  moltis  ....  Jo.  Bapdsta  NieolsL  %  vols.  fiiL 
FraaooAirti,  1666." 

0.  T.  BAXAei.    - 

Swm's  "GuLLmoEt's  Tbatiu^^  S.  iz.  349.^ 
I  suspect  that  0.  D.  L.'s  oopf  of  dHffmr,  which 
he  ci^ls  A|  is  a  later  editton.  imt  dated  so  as  to 
pass  lor  the  fiiit  The  eon?  he  eaUs  B  is  no  donbi 
a  gennine  fizit  edition.  X  nave  just  examined  two 
couples  of  the  first  editiim(3nxM(ZXTi.);  one  in  the 
Oambridae  UnlTemltT  Hlxni^,  the  uthorin  Trinilif 
CMQege  nfamyi  Hie  lionner  feii^  on  large 
jjiest  ooDBBpottf  in  ^my 


/  .; 


». 


434 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


li^  S.  IX.  If  AT  25, 72. 


in  the  large  paper  copy  there  is  no  inscription 
round  the  frame  of  the  portrait,  the  name  and 
age  of  Gulliver  being  engraved  on  a  panel  below 
it :  whereas  in  the  small  paper  copy  the  name  and 
age  are  engraved  round  the  frame,  and  the  panel 
below  bears  two  Latin  ver^s  beginning  ^'  Composi- 
tum  fas."  The  titles  correnpoud  with  C.  D.  L.'s 
copy  B,  and  the  paging  does  not  run  on  through  { 
the  volume,  but  begins  afresh  with  each  part,  as 
inB. 

I  possess  a  copy  of  the  second  edition,  dated 
MBCCXXViT.  It  IS  printed  with  a  different  type, 
and  varies  in  the  use  of  capitals^  and  has  several 
copies  of  verses  prefixed,  but  othenN-iso  corre- 
sponds, page  for  page  and  line  ft>r  line,  with  the 
first  edition,  and  has  the  portrait  like  that  de- 
Bcribed  in  the  above-mentioned  small  paper  copy. 

In  the  edition  of  Guilt cer  edited  by  J)r.  W.  C. 
Taylor  in  1840,  with  engravings  after  (Irandville, 
some  interesting  letters  are  pretixed  which  passed 
between  the  author  and  Mottc  the  lirst  publisher,  j 
from  which  it  might  be  inferred  that  the  work  did 
not  make  its  appearance  till  the  spring  of  1727 ;  but  ' 


for  in  Scott's  edition  ot  Swift's  works  (xvii.  107) 
is  a  letter  from  Arbuthiiot  to  S\N'ift,  dated  Xovem-  ! 
ber  8,  17i2r>,  in  which  he  speaks  of  Mr.-.  Howard 
as  being  then  'engaged  in  reading  (inUivvrx  and 
she  herself  writes  to  Swift  in  the  early  part  of 
the  samf  month  with  allusions  to  incidents  in  the  ■ 
work.     There  can,  therefore,  bo  no  doubt  about 
the  dato  of  its  fir.^t  app-^arauce,  although  it  has 
been  t^uggested  from  Dr.  Taylor  s  preface  that  the  ' 
printing  was  commenced  in  1720,  but  delayed  till 
the  conclusion  of  the  agreement  in  the  following 
spring.  E.  V. 

ArocRYPnAL  Genealogy  (4"'  S.  ix.  278,  ooG.) 
llad  Tewars  communicated  with  me  before  at- 
tacking me  in  his  paper  on  this  subject  he  would, 
perhaps,  have  been  satisfied  with  the  explanation  , 
which  I  must  request  you  to  insert.  I  have  been 
for  some  years  collecting  materials  for  a  history 
of  the  Fowke  family.  Amongst  other  matters,  Sir 
Frederick  Fowfte  of  Lowesby  t^ent  nie  a  transcript 
of  '*A  pedigree  compiled  in  17CJ'>by  Kdmondsou," 
which,  he  adds,  **  is  recorded  and  proved  correct  ; 
by  books  at  tlie  Heralds'  College.''  I  understand 
that  this  p(-digree  was  prepared  as  a  gift  for 
Ijieut.-(jrenenil  Fowke,  (iovernor  of  Gibraltar,  and 
throughout  emblazoned  with  armorial  bearings. 
Notwithstanding  the  authorities  cited,  I  was  un- 
prepared to  bolt  tliis  savoury  morsel,  and  curious  : 
to  Know  what  authority  there  was  for  believing 
in  these  persons'  existence,  and  with  what  arms 
they  could  be  crediUtd,  I  wrote  my  query.  I 
maiied  '^  what  arms  were  borne  by  or  have  been 
Mn'dufed  to, "  &c  Mr.  Ellis  insiBts  upon  n  very 
«tr/f  adoption  of  coat  armour  proper.    M  Tdl^ 


stands  nearly  alone  in  tlus  Tiew,  I  will  not  con- 
sider it  here ;  but  can  Tewabs  be  unaware  that 
arms  have  been  attributed  to  Edward  the  Con- 
fessor, William  the  Conqueror,  nay  even  to  Adam 
and  Eve?  (i**  S.  iii.  554,  C13.)  I  am  not  con- 
cerned with  conjectures  as  to  Latin  orthography , 
nor  with  inaccuracies  in  geography,  if  any  such 
there  be ;  they  are  Edmondson's,  whose  battles  I 
am  not  prepared  to  light. 

I  hope  I  have  vindicated  "  the  frame  of  mind 
which  dictated  my  querj-,"  and  shown  that,  so 
fax  from  desiring  to  "  minister  to  vanity,"  I  was 
anxious  to  avoid  an  "  uncritical  repetition  of  an 
idle  tradition."  I  entirely  agree  as  to  the  neces- 
sity of  scrupulous  exactness,  and  may  add  that  for 
every  statement  made  in  my  pedigrees  I  invari- 
ably give  my  authority.  My  research  may  be 
unintelligent,'  but  it  is  at  least  honest,  at  the 
same  tinip  enabling  critics  to  weigh  the  respective 
values  of  the  different  entries. 

Frank  Rede  Fowke. 

Defects  in  Marriage  Keoisttes  (4***  S.  ix. 
277,  34i5.) — One  of  the  defects  complained  of  as 
above  is  the  neglect  of  entering  the  ejutct  ages  of 
the  parties  married.  Mr.  Leachman  acknow- 
ledges the  difficulty  of  obtaining  the  exact  ages, 
lie  says  that  people  '*are  shy  of  telling  their 
age  *';'and  although  his  practice  is  to  in^'ist  upon 
having  it,  the  age  given  is  sometimes  **  probably 
ten  years  from  the  truth."  ( )f  what  prnetical  use, 
then,  could  the  registering  of  such  ages  be  ?  They 
would  never  be  received  in  a  courl  of  law,  and 
so  far  from  hereafter  serving  to  identify  the  par- 
ties, would  only  mislead. 

It  ought,  however,  to   be  universally  known 
that  the  registering  what  purports  to  be  the  exact 
age  is  a  broach  of  (he  Itnr,  and  that  the  otticiating 
minister  has  no  authority  to  ask  the  question, 
which,  under  the  circumstances,  is  impertinent. 
The  Act  under  which  marriasres  are  now  regis- 
tered is  0  &  7  Will.  IV.  (18iW,  c.  86.     StKitian 
31  enacts  that  "  every  clergyman  shall  register  in 
duplicate  the  several  particulars  relating  to  that 
marriage,  accordinff  to  the  form  in  tchuMv  C" ; 
and  this  form  is  in  the  column  for  the  age  t--»  write 
of  full  age  or  miuor^  as  the  case  may  be.     Imme- 
diately after  tlie  passing  of  the  Act  the  registrar- 
general  sent  a  circular  to  the  incumbent  of  every 
parish  containing  printed  instructions  for  fulfill- 
ing the  requirements  of  the  Act.     One  of  these 
circulars  is  now  before  me,  and  it  expressly  calls 
attention  to  the  31st  section.     Thus.   '*in   the 
column  under  the  head  ajTc he  must  insert  offuUojft 
\  or  minor f  an  the  case  may  be,  but  he  is  not  required 
to  insert  the  ftrccise  agc^    Manv  incumbenta  of 
that  dav  took  the  precaution  of  waferiug  these 
instructions  on  the  mner  cover  of  their  regirter 
'  for  the  benefit  of  their  successors  who  might  not 
\  \m  «o  ^«ll  vnfonned  in  their  duties.    I  strongly 


4^  S.  IX.  May  25,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


435 


Mr.  Leaciiman  says,  "are  sliy  of  telling  their 
age/'  to  resist  the  impertinent  inquiry  should  it 
be  demanded  of  them.  1^.  ^  . 

Malvljin  Chace  (4**^  S.  ix.  208.)— In  answer 
to  the  gentleman  inquiring  on  this  point,  I  give 
the  following  couplet  of  quotations  from  Jl'orcc.<- 
ter  in  the  Xinrfccfith  O^tun/,  by  T.  C.  Tubberville. 
London:  Longman,  1852,  8vo,  p.  239: — 

Oct.  12,  181i;  :— 

"  A  mectiii;^  of  fn»e-hoKlcrs  at  the  White  Lion,  Upton- 
on-Severn,  with  I.onl  Somers  in  tlie  chair,  to  deliherate 
on  the  propriety  of  inclosing  Malvern  Chaco.  The  meet- 
ing agreed  to  petiti»>n  in  favour  of  such  a  measure." 

Jan.  10,  1815  (p.  243)  :— 

"  Lord  Somers  addressed  the  lords  of  manors  and  pro- 
prietors of  fre'^linhls  on  Malveni  Chace,  announciup  his 
intention  of  frivinir  up  all  further  attempts  to  brinp  about 
an  eni'losure  of  the  same.  He  found  it  impoij^iible  to 
reconcile  so  many  conlliiting  interests." 

If  the  gentleman  enquiring  about  the  above  has 
^ot,  or  cannot  get  the  book  from  which  I  quote,  I 
shall  be  most  happy  to  lend  him  my  copy. 

IL  S.  Skipton. 

Tivoli  Cottage,  Cheltenham. 

Flketwood  IForsK,  Stoke  Xewington  (4'**  S. 
ix.  200,  3<;2.)— I'art  xl.  of  the  JLrald  and  Ofne- 
nloyiAl  contjuris,  under  title  "  Genealogy  of  the 
Markhams,"  a  nui>terly  display  of  research,  ar- 
rangement, and  impartiality ;  and  the  careful 
author,  in  rereading  Daniel  Markham  baptized  in 
1053,  adds — '•  He  married  a  daughter  of  Cap- 
tain Fennel  by  ]^'ranc(?s,  asmrtcd  to  have  l>een  a 
daughter  of  J'loetwood  and  his  wife  Bridget, 
daughter  of  Cromwell  *':  while  15urke,  an  equally 
careful  author,  in  LmuL  Gent.,  under  title  "Mark-  | 
ham,"  records  of  tli*^  same  Daniel  IMarkham —  j 
"  He  marri'd  Llizab«'th,  daughter  of  Captain 
Fennel,  by  I'rances  liis  wife,  a  daughter  '*  ( mind  j 
not  (is-^crted  to  liave  l)een,  but  m  positive  terms  a 
dauff/itrr)  "df  I'leetwood,  and  grand-daughter, 
through  her  ninth'.'r.  of  Cromwell.'* 

Now,  as  *'  N.  c^'  (^."  has  palpably  the  house  oi  j 
Fleetwo'^d  in  its  two  Hense8  completel}'  on  the 
anvil,  the  pif.-fr.t  stems  th»*.  happy  seafion  for  in- 
viting the  sf'tth.-nieut  of  the  question  whether 
Fleetwood  luid.  or  had  not,  by  Bridget  Cromwell, 
a  daught*  r  Frances,  who  married  Fennel. 

Jonx  Pike. 

Barker  axd  Bukford's  Panoramas  (4*''  S.  vii. 

270,  4.*'>L^)— I   liav.'   a  handbill  of  the  *^  View  of 

Dover''  at  "  Bark^-r's  Panorama,  Strand,"  li^OO, 

from  whicli  1  quote  tlie  following  : — 

**Mr.  Barker  will  «'<intinuo  to  brinpj  forward  a  succes- 
sion of  Views  on  tlio-o  rriu'-iples  of  Accuracy  he  so  long 
prfictiserl  in  I^'i«-C'st<r  Scjiijire  ;  and  will  use  his  utmost 
£ndeav<mrs  to  merit  a  I'ortion  of  that  Patronajje  so 
liberally  bc^^towed  on  his  late  Father,  the  Inventor  of  the 
Panorama^' 

I  have  a  similar  handbill,  without  name  or  date, 
''  of  the  Interior  of  Dublin,  taken  from  the  house 


of  Mr.  Law,  Jeweller,  &c.,  the  corner  of  Sack- 
ville  Street."  It  also  states  that  **  A  gitmd  view 
of  Gibraltar  is  open  in  the  lower  circle.  Admit- 
tance to  each  painting,  one  shilling.  <  )pen  from 
ten  till  dusk.''  W.  C.  B. 

"Secret  Societies  of  the  Mipple  Ages*' 

(4'»»  S.  ix.  .'Jol).)— I  have 

"  Secret  Societies  of  the  Middle  Ages :  The  Assassins  of 
the  East,  the  Knight  Templars  and  the  Fehin-gerichte  or 
Secret  Tribunals  of  Westphaha."  Withllluttrations.  Nat- 
tali  &  Bond,  IGmo,  cloth  gilt. 

This  book  seems  to  be  the  same  as  that  men- 
tioned by  C.  \V.  S.,  but  is,  I  think,  of  a  later  date. 
Xo  author's  name  or  preface  is  given.  Either 
Messrs.  Nattali  &  Bond  or  Mr.  IvxiunTLET  (to 
whom  we  hope  a  new  lease  of  health  has  been 
granted)  can  explain  the  matter. 

II.  S.  ?KIPT0y. 

William  Secoll  ('4^»»  S.  ix.  280.  >— The  will 
of  William  Secoll,  of  Sotheley,  Oxou.  dated  April 
11,  15o7,  was  proved  in  the  Prerogative  Court  of 
Canterbury  on  the  27th  of  the  same  month.  The 
testator  speaks  of  bis  **free  landes"  within  the 
lordships  of  Eynsham  and  Come.  He  had  six 
children :  John)  Richard,  William,  Hobert,  Agnes, 
and  Johan.  He  was  the  son  of  John  Secole,  yeo- 
man, of  Sotheley,  whose  will  (made  Jan.  0, 1551, 
in  the  presence  of  Sir  William  Pope,  curate)  was 
proved  in  the  l*rerogative  Court  m  1552.  John 
Secole  had,  in  addition  to  the  above  J^on  William, 
a  daughter,  Agnes  Swifte,  and  a  son  Richard,  who 
occupied  his  lands  within  Kingswood,  *'  or  elles 
where  within  the  counties  of  Wiltes  and  Glocet'." 

J .  C  C  c. 

FavershaM  CnuRcn  (4**'  S.  vi.  i??.').)  —  The 
tomb  in  the  north  aisle  of  this  church  I  enquired 
ahout  is,  I  tliink,  that  of  Nathaniel  IJetbeech.  who 
was  miiyor  of  I'aversham  in  KhJT.  I  euppoeed  the 
date  of  it  was  circti  15H0,  but  that  was  ^omewhere 
near  the  time  when  the  mayor's  gown  was  intro- 
duced, in  wliich  the  occupiuit  of  the  tomb  is  re- 
presented in  brass  upon  it.  George  I>£do. 

The  Earl  of  St.  Lavrekt,  Caxapa  ('4  *  S.  ix. 

101.)— 

"  The  Isle  of  Orleans  was  in  I67G  create- 1  an  earldom 
by  the  title  of  St.  Laurent,  which,  however,  has  long  been 
extinct.  The  first  Comte  de  St.  Laurent  was  ot  the  name 
of  Jierthelct." — Vide  Picture  of  Quebec y  with  Hiitorieal 
liecollt'.ctimts,  by  Alfred  Hawkins.  Quebeo,  1.^34,  12mo. 
jjp.  173-171,  note  15. 

John  Keydait. 

South  Kensington. 

"  Bloody  Wall  "  (4'»'  S.  ix.  375.)— Should  not 
this  term  be  "  bloody  warrior,"  a  well-known 
name  for  the  dark-coloured  wallflower  ?  ( v.  Herbs 
of  the  Field,  p.  191.)  Here  they  go  a  f^tep  higher, 
and  call  the  yellow  variety  the  "  yellow  bliddy 
wah-yer  '* — a  nomenclature  worthy  of  Sir  Boyle 
Koche  himself.  A.  Middlktok. 

Kiogsbridge  Grammar  School,  S.  Deron. 


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436 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


|;4<fc  S.  IX.  IUt  25,  T 


"Thb  Cubfew  tolls"  Bxa  (4«»»  S.  ix.  339.)— 
J.  W.  W/s  yersLon,  if  an  unauthorised,  is  an  ingeni- 
ooB  reading.    The  first  line  of  Gray's  Ele^ — 

**■  The  cnrfew  tolls  the  knell  of  parting  day,'* 
is  said,  and  by  Ix)rd  Byron,  to  be  pla«riarised  from 
the  \^t  line  of  a  passage  in  Dante's  Purgatory, 
canto  8 — 

**  Che  paia  *1  ^iorno  piangcr  che  si  maore.** 

The  passage  is  thus  translated  by  Mr.  Carey : — 

*'  And  pilgrim  newlv  on  his  mail,  with  love, 
Thrills,  if  he  hear  the  vesper  bell  from  far. 
Which  seems  to  mourn  for  the  expiring  day." 

Another  expres^jion,  "trembling  hope/*  in  Gray's 
Elefff/f  also  occurs  in  Dante— a  literary  coincidence 
it  may  be.  Gniy  committed  another  petty  literary 
larceny  in  the  line — 

"  And  leaves  the  worM  to  darknes.*  and  to  me,'* 
which  is  evidently  parodied  from  this  line  in  the 
*' Beggar's  Petition  ^^ 

**  And  leave  the  world  to  wretche<lncss  and  me." 

Fred.  Rile. 

Dr.  Jonx  Owen's  Pedigree  (4*»>  S.  ix.  239.)— 

C'ymro's  query  wi\s  repeated  in  the  '*  Bye-pones'* 

column  of  the  Osxcestry  Advet'ti^Ky  and  has  elicited 

the  following  reply  : — 

**Cyniro  ini^uires  respecting  a  p€<lipree  of  Dr.  John 
Owen,  Dean  of  Christ  Chureh  durini;  the  (ireat  Rflwl- 
lion.  Then)  are  several  at  Pcniarth— one  in  the  auto- 
graph of  l{<»l)ort  Vaughan,  the  antiquary  of  Henpwrt.  Dr. 
Owen  was  a  sun  of  the  Rev.  Harry  Owen,  curate  or  in- 
cumbent of  Stadhnin  in  Herks  and  afterwards  incumt>ent 
of  Har]isden  in  Oxfordshire,  who  died  S<*pt.  15,  1043, 
in  his  63rd  year,  and  was  burietl  at  llarpsilen,  where,  in 
the  chanct'U  is  a  brass  plate  to  his  nienuirv.  He  was  a 
vounger  brother  of  Lewis  Owen  of  Peni.-irth.  Another 
brother  was  Hugh  Owen  of  Talybont,  who  would  have 
made  the  dean  his  heir,  but  disinherited  him  on  account  of 
the  part  which  he  took  .i;;ainst  his  sovereii^n  inthi>se  un- 
happy times,  and  who  left  Talvbont  proj)erty  to  another 
Lewis  Owen  of  Peniarth  (afterwanls  M.P.  for  Merioneth- 
shire), the  representative  of  these  brothers. — \V.'* 

A.  P.. 

Croeswylan,  O^weatr}-. 

Rev.  John  Moultrie  (4»''  S.  ix.  118,  1S4,  307, 
370.) — It  may  interest  correspondents  who  have 
written  conreminp  this  gentleman  to  transcribe 
the  following  stanza  from  "  For^ret  The*',"  by  his 
pen :  and  a  translation  of  it  into  Latin  verso  in 
the  Sabruup  Corolla  bv  Dr.  KenneJv,  the  late 
Head  Masttfr  of  Shrewsbury,  and  now  licgius 
Professor  of  Ciroek  at  Cambridge :  — 

"  Forget  thei'  I  bid  the  forest-birds  foriret  their  sweetest 
tune; 
Forget  thee !  bid  the  sea  forget  to  swell  beneath  the 

nuH-in  ; 
Did  thirsty  flowers  forget  to  drink  the  eve's  refresh- 

.  inp  dew  ; 
Thyself  forget  thine  own  dear  land,  and  its  mountains 

"  wild  and  blue; 
Forget  each  old  familiar  face,  each  long-remembered 

spot: 
When  tbeae  things  are  forgot  by  Ibec,  Uien  lVioi&  «\iilt 
be  forgot." 


**  Oblihumtviffamimf 
"  Oblitus  omnes  ut  tui  viTain  dies  ? 

Cesset  a^is  liqoido  mnloere  sflvas  eannine : 
Oblitos  omoes  ut  tui  Tivam  dies  ? 

Neffligat  unda  maris  tamere  sab  Imua  face : 
Siticulosa  nutet  immemor  rosa 

Nectareos  bibere  rorantis  Uesperi  scyphos  : 
Tuo  patemnm  lit  us  effloat  sinu, 

Vastaque  ccraleo  nota  colore  joga, 
Vnltusque  amatus  quisqiie,  et  a  puertia 

Pluruma  dellciis  signata  plurumis  loca: 
Quorum  simol  te  ceperint  oolivia, 
Kxdderis  animo  tu  cara,  tum  demnm  meo.** 
Pp.  222,  223,  Editio  Prima,  xdoocl. 

Mr.  Moultrie,  the  rector  of  Rugby,  hiis  been 
'  the  author  of  several  volumes  of  poetry,  and  u 
one  of  his  most  beautiful  efTusiona  let  me  mention 
in  particular  a  poem  called  My  Brother's  Grave. 

Jons  PiCKFOBD,  MJL 

Hungate,  Pickering. 

Father  Arrowsmith's  Hand  (4**»  S.  ix.  87d.) 
In  The  Memoirs  of  (he  Missionary  Priests  (ofj&t^ 
land),  by  Dr.  Challoner,  we  find  that  "  a  hand  Jt 
the  Venerable  Martyr  Father  Arrowsmith,  S.  J., 
is  still  preserved,  and  is  in  posseanon  of  the  Qer- 
rard  family  in  Lancashire.''  Father  Arrowamidi 
suffered  death  on  the  scafFold,  after  undergoing 
terrible  persecutions,  in  Lancaster,  on  August  28, 
1028,  (Flat is  43.  There  is  no  mention  made  in 
the  volume  to  which  I  refer  of  any  favour  being 
refused  by  the  sherifF  or  sub-sheriif  to  Father 
Arrowsmith :  but  it  is  stated  that  a  rather  violoit 
attempt  bv  the  sheriff  was  made  to  force  the 
martyr  priest  to  abjure  his  faith  on  the  scaffold. 
It  is  stated,  however,  of  the  judge  that  he  ordered 
the  martyr's  head  '*  to  have  it  set  higher  by  sis 
yards  than  any  of  the  pinnacles ''  of  Lancaster 
Castle,  and  that  whilst  sitting  at  supper  on 
January  2:^,  1029-:^,  he  (the  judge)  felt  a  blow 
as  if  somebody  had  struck  him  on  the  head,  upon 
which  he  fell  into  a  rajre  with  the  servant  that 
waited  behind  him,  who  protested  that  he  had 
not  struck  him,  nor  did  he  see  any  one  strike  him. 
A  little  after  he  felt  another  blow  like  the  first, 
and  tlien  in  prreat  terror  he  was  carried  to  bed  and 
died  the  nnxt  morning.  Father  Arrowsmith*! 
hand,  in  a  silver  shrine,  is  at  present,  I  believe,  in 
or  near  Liverpool,  and  is  greatly  resorted  to  for 
cures.  Maurice  Lesiuas,  M JLLA. 

Limerick. 

CuAFCER  Family  (4*»»  S.  ix.  381.)— I  demur, 

with  Mr.  Furnivall's  leave,  to  the  statement  that 

I  there  is  no  scrap  of  evidence  for  the  relationship 

;  between  Geotl'rey  and  Thomas  Chaucer.     On  the 

tomb  of  Thomas  Chaucer,  at  Ewelme,  among  the 

many  coats  of  arms  are  those  of  Rolt :  this  being 

the  family  of  Oeoffrey  Chaucer's  wife,  and  tha 

traditional  mother  of  Thomas  Chaucer.      Then 

I  appears  in  this  strong  evidence  of  relaticmshia 

See  Visitations  of  Oxfordshire^  pp.  88,  S9y  ELaridan 


4*  a.  IX.  M»Y  35,  -. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Ukicobns  (4"'  S.  ix.  110,  345.)— In  A  Catnlogue 
of  the  Rarities  to  be  seen  at  Dm  Saliero's  Cuffee- 
house  in  Chelsea  (No.  284),  is  "A  Sea-Unicorn's 
horn,  seren  foot  and  a  half  long."  Oo  the  same 
page  appears  an  item  which  I  should  be  glad  to 
nave  explained :  "  2ij7.  A  Pair  of  Brashala  to  play  i 
nt  Ballou."     I  cannot  lind  the  jftane  in  Strutt.  I 

W.  G.  Ston-e.     I 

SRiiteTlniteaai.  \ 

NOTES  OS  BOOEg,  ETC.  I 

TSe  FtrluilraHon  of  Grtal   YaTmouth,    Girlrslon,   and  ', 
SouUiloan.    By  Charles  John  Pslmer.     i'el.  J.    (Sail,  i 


:„.a. 


Ira 


e  general  leader,  on  tnking  up  tbis  yalame  and 
iiiiuiii^  tbat  it  contains  upwards  of  400  pages,  should  take 
fright  and  lie  disiwised  to  cast  ii  aside  as  one  not  likely  to 
tHRisesg  fur  him  at  lenst  interrac  proportionate  to  its  length, 
let  bimnol  do  so  until  he  has  read  tbe  "  Prefatory  Sole." 
Havin);  done  Ibal,  wB  rfnturc  to  prophesy  that  he  will 
read  tlic  book  ;  and  that  done,  that  be  Will  agree  with 
OS  that  a  better,  more  amusing,  or  mora  inslmctiTo 
local  hiatorv  was  never  penned.  Mr.  Paltncr,  it  must 
be  admitted,  ha^  been  especially  fortunate  in  having  a 
town  of  exceptional  interest  to  deal  witb;  and  as  wa 

walk  with  him  tliroogb  the  streets  and  places  of  tbe  Old 
Tovn;  perambulate  the  roads  which  intersect  the  iV«p 
Tom  witbout  the  walls  \  and  extend  our  survey  through 
tbe  hamlet  of  Southtown,  Cuhbam  Island,  and  tbe 
town  of  Gortcston  within  the  Municipal  Uotough,  we 
ftel  that  onr  companion  is  no  plodding  antiquary  of  the 
old  Dr}'asilu9t  scbool,  but  one  tilled  witb  deep  sym- 
ptthiea  for  the  present  as  well  as  (or  the  paal,  andSn 
whom  the  ei|;ht  of  an  ol<l  house  or  historic  site  recalld 
the  memory-  of  those  who  give  tbem  interest.  Tbe  work 
is  rach  as' could  only  bare  been  accomplislied  by  the 
labour  of  many  j'ear?,  and  by  mtich  persistent  and  well- 
dJrected  rtsearch.  It  has  obviously  been  a  labour  of 
lova ;  and  the  profuse  manner  in  wbich  it  is  illustrated 
shows  that  no  thought  of  profit  can  have  entered  the 
mind  of  the  Editor.  Yarmouth  is  lucky  in  having  Bnch 
an  historian  as  Mr.  Palmer ;  and  we  irnst  bin  fellow 
townsmen  will  not  be  alow  to  recognise 


le  of  tl 


yean  have  jiruduced. 

Sale  of  VAT.UAnT.i;  PmiiTa.— On  Mondav  next  and 
Ibllowin;;  davt  Mo^'^ra.  Sotheby  A  Wilkinson  will  sell 
■t  their  room's  Iti  Wellington  street  a  Collection  of  Printa 
fbnned  during  the  la.Ht  furtv  vears  under  peculiarly 
favouTsble  circuinalancea.  Among  them  will  be  found 
many  rare  and  beautiful  specimens  of  Sir  Joshua  Rev- 
Dolds'  works,  as  well  os  of  Hogarth  ;  a  large  series  of 
English  Portraits,  among  which  will  be  found  some 
nniqiie  and  most  curious  portraits   of  our   Dramatic 

Mb.  Stakkdeh  has  just  issued  a  broadside  of  great 
utility,  i\savi\v,Stat\tt\ctafaaiheCoanlriainihe  World, 
giving  their  area,  form  of  government,  bead  of  state, 
population,  expenditure,  debt,  paper  money,  notes  in  dr. 
culation,  alandmg  army,  nav}',  merchant  veHels,  import^ 
exports,  cbtef  pniduirts,  money,  weights  and  meaanres, 
railways,  capitals  and  chief  towns,  by  Dr.  Otto  llUbner. 

Sir  CnARi.ES  DiLKB  has  presented  to  the  nation  the 
**  JuDias"  collection,  which  formed  part  of  the  library  of 
bis  Brandfather,  the  late  Mr.  Dilke. 


It  to  complete  the  work  thirty  more  will  be  required. 
TiJE   CimwTtiKUmt  of  the  Society  of  Arta  will  take 
acf  at  the  South  Kenaiagton  Museum  on  Wednesday, 


Sir  Willtak  Stirlinci  Maxweu.,  Bart.,  has  been 
elected  a  trustee  of  the  British  Museum  in  place  of  tbe 
late  Sir  Thomas  Pbiliipps. 

The  friends  of  Archdeacon  Hale,  and  not,  as  bas  bean 
stated,  the  Governors  of  Charterhouse,  are  about  to  erect 
a  memorial  to  his  memory  in  St.  Paul'a  Cathedral.     Il 


ofth 


nelB< 


-ning  chapel. 


#atf»ri  to  CorrtifiiDnVenU. 

H.  n.  (Birmingham.).— KmriBi>AAa>£«naH«uJe<^bi. 

A,  II.  (Beckenham.)— 7%e  cmpltl— 

"Tbon  thy  worldly  task  hast  done. 
Home  art  gone,  and  ta'en  thy  wages," 
DcCHi-i  t'a  Shaiipean,  Cymbetine,  Act  IT.  Sc.  2,  "Song." 

Adiiba.— On  Ttfcrring  to  the  title-page  nf  a  Philoso- 
phical Surver  of  the  South  of  Ireland  ■»  find  lAe  ietttn 
Ktre  addreuid  to  Dr.  Watkiium,  v  that  oar  cormpond- 
nt  is  correct  io  allribnliiy  this  Kflr*  ("  N.  it  Q."  i"  S.  1. 
3(ih)  to  M«  Stv.  Thomas  Campbell,  LL.D.  Hav  it  can* 
la  be  entered  in  the  Catalogue  of  the  British  Musmm  and 
meiit  biblxographical  worhi,  as  the  aori  of  lie  former  U 

D.  Blair  (Melbourne.)— R'e  caanot  Jind  that  Mr. 
Percy  Fitzgerald  ever  fulfilled  his  promise  of  pidilishing  a 
commeHtarj/  on  Tristram  Shandy.  / 

S.  HoFLKV.— rfte  Katf— 


*■  And  01 


Because  it  worked  on  Sunday," 
OCCHT  in  A  Hatch  for  a  Widow  ;  or,  the  Frolics  of  Fancy, 
I7K8.  Ay  Joseph  Alkiiuon,  Ihe  friend  and  associate  of 
Cnrran,  Moore,  and  the  galaxg  of  Irish  genius. 

C.  W.  Empsos  (Cambridge).  — tosAer  is  a  proein. 
cialUm  meaning  a  leear. 

EuRATA.— 4*  S.  ix.  p.  881,  eol.  ii.  Lydgate's  poems 
were,  bv  an  ovcraghl,  printed  before  the  proof  had  been 
corrected  by  the  MS.  heeides  smaller  miatakes,  the  fol- 
lowing are  in  the  text: — I.  4,  for  '■  Jonieyinga"  read 
■■  Jornevii>ee";  1.  7,/br"goodcs  raid"goodely"  ;  1.8, 
/or  " foi|»!me "  read  "fir^me";  p.  382,  col.  i.  I.  16, 
yiir  "ffredum"  r*od  "ftedum";  1.  !l,_/br  "konde"  read 
"  houde";  1. 24, /or  "plentyooas"  reofl"plenljvouB"  t 
1.  ■iG,  for -J  only"  read  "innly";  I.  85,  "aven"  read 
"owen";  I.  iti,  for  "aeitla"  learf  "seythe" ;  col.  ii. 
Ko,22,/'r  "beings  "r«iif"l>emya"  J  p.  383,  col.  i.  1. 11, 
/or"Bame"r«id"lnmB"(  1.  t6,/oi-"  that "rmid  "bat "i 
I.  25, /or  "scales"  rn.d  "sealea";  1.  30, /«■  " dark^ ■" 
read  "darte|>e";  1.  34,  /or  "  t'emerande  "  read  "  >^D*- 
raude  "  ;  same  I.  for  "lastinga"  read  "  hutinge  " ;  L  X, 
for  "folly"  rrnd  "folk";  col.  ii.  1.  6, /or  "aea"  read 
"»eo"j  1.  14,  for  "sono"  read  "aoone";  1.  16.  for 
"  Lyned  "  read  "  Lyneal "  ;  I.  28,  for  -  G  "  read  "  E  ", 

To  all  communications  should  be  affixed  the  name  and 
address  of  the  sender,  not  necessarily  for  publication,  but 
as  a  guarantee  of  good  faith. 

We  beg  leave  to  state  tbat  we  decline  to  retam  eont- 
mnnications  which,  for  any  reaaoD,  we  do  not  print  j  and 
to  tbii  rule  wa  can  ma)i«  no  ezcepnim. 


438 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[«k  &  IX  Hat  15^  71 


NE AMMAN'S    (Of  23S,  High  Holbom)  LIST    OF 

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neat,  lu/.    L-jndjn,  1701. 

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Histor}'  and  Antiquities  of  the  Eiehaqav 

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London'.  — Wilkiiuion's  Londina  lUostzata,  npwudf 

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best  etlitiun,  line  copy,  calf  (nit,  :•/.  1^.  6(<.{  another,  eolf  atat.  4L  Hfe. 

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of  Old  Ilousei.  Chuichcfl,  Stained  Glaw.  BraMei,  ftc.,  idlo.  half-l 

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-^^—    Koman  Antinnities  diseoreied  at  Wood- 

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Madox, 

of  the  Kincs 
neat,  1/.  IfU, 

Maoxa  BniTAxxrA. — Cox's  Topographical  Aoeont 

iif  the  ConiitiM.  Cities,  fcc..  H  ml*.  4to,  calf,  neat,  ffl.  la*.  17M-a.  (Om- 
taiuing  valuable  matter  not  to  tic  found  cUewhcra.) 

Magny  (M.  Ic  Marquis),  Lirre  d*Or  de  la  Noblw^ 

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MAixToi^'tf's  Anecdotes  of  the  Manners  and  OutBBS 

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Mkyrick'.h  Critical  Inquiiy  into  Ancient  Azmoa^ 

M  it  existed  in  Kumjie,  and  partlcnlariy  Enfrland.  fkom  Uia 
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Jac«)»'s  Iuiclif*h  Peerace,  plates  an  J  gi'nealogiail 

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Kent. — Lirkin^H  Domesday  B«x)k  "f  the  County, 

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C.iUei'tanea  (Iiritish  Anti  .uitios),  G  vols. 

"^vo,  fire  ii»iiy.  t ..If. ?J.  VAf.  IV/. 

LoNT)oN.— Siuitli's  Antiquities  of  L'>iiilou  and  En- 

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. — Sniith's  Antiquitips  of  "\Vi--t:iiinsrrr.  ,S.:c.. 

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Mowoan's   Sphere  of   Gentry,  an 

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ucat.:t7.  3rf. 

^1<»uton's  Northamptonshire,  the  Natnnlffiilaj 

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It.  loo.    1712. 

MniPiiY's  .Arabian  Antiquities  of  Spain,  100  Iqi^f 

finiiihcd  en^rruvinffs  of  the  Palace  of  AlhamlRm,  Mopqne  at  Ooidafvaiiet 
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(tuthlnxtoii.  plalcs,  Mnali  iiaper,  najni' 
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(tuthlnxtoii.  plalcs,  Mnali  iiaper,  najnt,  41. 
idiiteit.  larue  ]>a]ier.  uncut,  .'>«.  ii«.--A  Tolii 
lienerul  ludcws  to  the  whole  wocfc,laive 

Xii  Hoi.s's  Literary  Anecdotes  and  literuT 

of  the  XV  Illth  Century,  i>«Mtraite,  17  vole.  Sm,  ealf  tUt.  ul  Ik. 

Xu'iioi.s  and  Others. — The  Topogmphn 

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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


439 


L02fD0y,  SATURDAY^  JUyE  1,  1872. 


CONTENTS.— N».  '231. 

NOTES:  — An  old  Newspaper,  439  —  Persons  indicted  in 
Lincolnshire  for  hearing  Mass,  a.d.  1580,  440  — American 
(Vntenarianisin,  4tl— Waste  Paper.  &c..  76.  —  Popular  ._ 
French  Songs,  44i  —  CirculatinR  Libraries  — Purcell  the  i 
t  omposer  —  Himalayan  Botany  —  Pronunciation  of  Ameri- 
i-an  Names— A  Curious  Bill  —  Freeholders  in  1761  and  1871 

—  Monastic  Relics.  442. 

QVERIE.S:- Sir  John  Austen  —Old  Cipher,  and  John 
Ft-nlinand  Bader  — The"  Billycock  "  or  "Wide-awake" 
Hat  — **  Adam  Blair  "  — Lords  of  Brecon  —  Catechism — 
"  A  CompUat  Collection  of  Devotions,"  ±c.  —  Divorce  — 
Four  Ages  of  Man  — Gowrie  Conspiracy -John  do  Vati- 
fruerro  —  3Iiltou  Queries  — Rev.  ^amueI  Peck,  M.A. — 
Poem  on  the  Monastic  Life  — Pontiff  — Quinta  of  Mont-  i 
Mcrrat  —  "  The  Retrospeclire  Review  "  —  Scotch  Royalists 

—  ScutariuH  —  '*  Sold,"  as  used  by  Jonson  —  Stell  — 
Sugar  and  Water  Day  —  Swedenborg  —  Taperell  —  Troy-^ 
Wallingers  —  Withipoll  and  Thekeston  Familiea,  444. 

REPLIES:  —  Mr.  Kctt  of  Trinity,  Oxford.  448  —  "As 
Straight  as  a  Die,**/6.— Genius,  "A  Capacity  for  taking 
trouble."  449  —  Tiie  Ancestry  of  Georgn  Waahington,  450 

—  St.  Winnel,  iA.  —  Cento  —  Hans  Place  Hoax  — Biblio- 
icraphr:  Obcr-Ammergau  Passion  Play  —  Father  Arrow- 
smith's  Hand  —  A  Suicide-  Richard  Guy  —  Dr.  Lignum 
~  Susan  Purr  of  Chippenham  — Edward  of  Salisbury  — 
Rev.  W.  Wickcndcn  —  Arms  of  Llandaff  —  "  Allen  " : 
"  Pounder  "  —  Wright's  "  Domestic  Manners  of  the  Eng- 
lish —  Windebank  Family  —  Windlass  —  Mediieval  Sculp- 
tures—'•.Hand  of  Glory  "—Round  Towers  of  Norfolk  — 
"  Uistoire  du  Hilton."  ^•..  451. 

Notes  on  Books.  Ac. 


AN  OLD  NEWSPAPER. 

From  a  number  of  the  Gloucester  Journal  for 
Tuesday,  Nov.  I'l,  1738,  which  I  have  had  the 
tipportunity  of  looking  over,  I  make  some  extracts 
which  may  interest  the  readers  of  **N.  &Q."  The 
size  of  the  sheet  is  a  crown  folio,  or  nearly  so-— 
the  ordinary  siz*^  of  the  papers  of  that  day.  It  is 
"  printed  by  li.  Raikes,"  whose  son  and  successor 
in  the  business  was  the  benevolent  Kobert  Kaikes, 
the  originator  of  Sunday  schools  in  England. 
The  Glouvei^vr  Jounml  is  one  of  the  oldest  (still 
oxistin^r )  newspMpprs  in  the  country,  having  been 
founded  on  April  9,  17l>i>. 

In  the  Foreif^ni  Intellijrence,  the  following  is 
noticeable : — 

••  From  thf  Paris  A-la-Main^  A  or.  19. 

"'Our  K-ttcr-^  from  Genoa  of  the  jth  instant  say  that 
IJaron  Nt'uhoil*  i<  arrived  at  Daya,  in  the  kingdom  of 
Naj'lt-s  <»n  l)i).'ir.l  a  forty-prun  ship.' 

"*  Letters  from  ('on^'tautinople  of  the  13th  of  Septcm- 
l>er  confirm  that  the  jjla^'ue  U  hotter  there  than  ever  ; 
and  <'onclii<l«:  witli  a  remarkalile  piece  of  advice  from 
Bel^rrade,  that  t!!*-  plaijue  was  so  rite  there  that  a^  an  a.**- 
>fMnbly  wluTe  a  lady  was  playing  at  ombro  with  a  couple 
of  olhcers  s<>nn'  blaok  sputs  rose  in  her  hands,  the  certain 
t(ik(.n  (»f  the  plnt^ui*.  of  which  both  she  and  the  officers 
«li.:d  in  two  hours*  time  : '  ichich  is  not  very  likely,'*  adds 
tliL*  editor. 


■  Late  Theodnre,  Kinj^  of  Corsica.  This  appears  to 
have  been  after  his  release  from  prison  at  Amsterdam,  and 
whilst  meditating  a  fresh  attempt  upon  the  island. 


"  They  write  from  Paris  that  the  Court  of  France  la 
more  divided  by  intrigues  carried  on  there  than  ever. 
The  Duke  of  I*ourbon  takes  uncommon  pains  to  succeed 
as  Prime  ^linLstcr  after  the  death  of  Cardinal  de  Flenr>'." 

Some  of  the  items  of  Domestic  News  are  ex- 
ceedinj:ly  amusing. 

**  Extract  of  a  Letter  from  Bath,  Nov.  11. 

*'  *  Yestenlay  their  Royal  Highnesses  *  were  pleased  to 
honour  the  City  of  Bristol  with  their  company,  and  re- 
turned hither,  God  be  praised,  in  perfect  health'this  after- 
noon at  four :  the  reception  they  met  with  waa  every 
way  suitable  to  the  grandeur  of  so  opulent  a  city,  on  such 

an  extraordinary  occasion Such  prodigious  crowds 

of  people  Hock  hither  daily  to  be  eye-witnesses  of  the 
matchless  goodness  and  condescension  of  their  Royal 
Highnesses,  that  for  several  days  past  Bath  has  seemed  a 
continual  fair.* 

'*  Sunday  la<»t  Colley  Gibber,  Esq.,  Poet  Laureate,  ar- 
rived at  Bath.'' 

"  London,  November  14. 

*'  The  Court  goes  out  of  mourning  for  the  late  Queen 
on  Sunday  se'nnight. 

**  Twelve  of  the  late  Queen's  domestics  have  died  since 
this  time  twelvemonth. 

**  We  hear  that  the  Publick'  Spirited  Ladies  who  in- 
tend to  introduce  the  wearing  of  miw/ms  are  determined 
not  to  receive  any  visits  from  gentlemen  who  encourage 
Itidian  songsters^  or  drink  any  wines  of  the  growth  of 
France.  If  such  resolutions  as  these  prevail,  we  mar 
hope  to  find  that  Opkras,  Claret,  and  Cambrick  will 
become  as  distasteful  to  the  poUte,  as  Pensions,  Excises, 
and  St.\ndino  Armies  are  to  the  honett  part  of  the 
British  Nation. 

**  We  hear  that  their  Royal  Hijp;hnesses  the  Prince  and 
Princess  of  Wales  gave  orders,  bemre  His  Majesty's  birth- 
day, to  all  the  ladies  and  gentlemen  belonging  to  them  not 
to  wear  or  use  anything,  either  for  deaths  or  trimmings, 
but  what  was  of  the  English  manniacture.  It's  not 
doubted  but  every  true  friend  ta  his  country  will  follow 
so  glorious  an  example,  and  that  in  time  it  will  become 
scandaioua  to  appear  in  anything  but  what  is  True  Eng- 
lish ;  all  other  nations  in  the  world  enjoin  the  natives 
to  wear  their  own  manufactures." 

How  would  our  worthy  Editor  and  the  "  pub- 
lick-spirited  ladies "  be  liorrified  at  the  low  ebb 
of  protectionist  principles  in  the  latter  half  of  the 
nineteenth  century ! 

**  We  hear  that  the  set  of  P^nglish  tumblers  now  in 
France  have  had  notice  given  them  to  leave  that  king- 
dom with  all  convenient  spce<l.*' 

Was  it  in  retaliation  of  our  refusal  to  take 
French  claret  that  the  French  determined  to 
patronise  no  English  mountebanks  ? 

**  Last  week  a  line  Venus  was  finished  at  a  sculptor's  in 
St.  Martinis  Lane ;  eight  of  the  most  celebrated  painters 
assisted  at  the  performance,  and  the  lady  who  sat  nine 
hours  at  different  times  for  the  some,  hod  three  half- 
crowns  each  hour  for  her  complaisance  and  trouble. 

**  There  is  the  following  remarkable  clause  in  the  will 
of  Mr.  Lilly,  deccas'd,  late  one  of  his  majesty's  apothe- 
caries, which  was  brought  into  Doctors'  Commons  the 
last  week — viz.  he  mokes  Mr.  Kemp,  of .Aldersgate  Street, 
and  his  servant  Elizabeth  Miller  his  executors,  and  leaves 
all  his  estates,  real  and  i>ersonal,  to  his  said  servant  Eliz- 
abeth Miller,  conditionally  that  she  takes  care  of  his  dear 
little  harlequin  dog,  Senesinj, 

*  The  Prince  and  rrinceoB  of  Waks. 


44C 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[«kfl,IZ  Jmnlt'Jg. 


"It  1>  certain  that  the  Dlncntsn  intCDil  to  petition 
riillvneDt  the  ensuing  SMniani  Tor  s  repeil  of  tba  Coi- 
poratioD  anil  Tist  Acta.— The  Quakers  >Iiki  intend  bi 
bring  !□  their  bill  i(ralDfor  reguliting  titbn. — We  beai  a 
groat  preiile, being  told  of  Iheie  tbingi,  laid.  If  (Afh  wonlci 
ma  Ihtir  litadt  againtl  a  Kail,  he  could  not  lulp  it. 

Against  Bucli  "  walla,"  liowever,  the  Bissenten 
have  nnce  then  not  aetdom  run  theti  beads,  with 
neater  detriment  to  the  "walls"  and  lesa  to 
uieniBelvea  thou  the  good  bUhop  seemed  to  ap- 
prebend. 
In  the  Obituary  occurs  the  following'. — 
"In  the  Rnloi  of  tlie  King's  Bench,  aged  near  100, 
Jolin  Aag}'ll,  Kki-,  iwmnionlv  call'd  Traiutaitd  Aiguti, 


Tarliar 


of  (J 


■  of  Par 


d  Octob.  an,  n 


but  naa  expellt 
writings." 

There  haTC  been  Bome  notices  of  Asgyll  in 
former  volumes  of  "  N.  &  Q."  (1"  9.  \i.  a,  SOO; 
ix.  370 ;  xi.  Iii? ;  d'*  S.  ii.  440),  so  that  I  neeti 
not  here  rupunt  the  title  of  the  striuijre  volume, 
moat  unneessHurily  Btjled  "scandalous,"  which  ib 
said  to  liave  been  tbe  cause  of  his  eipulnon  from 
Parliament.  It  is  curious  that  hu  should  have 
lived  to  BO  preat  an  age.  Fraier')  Maguzine,  Aug. 
1S71,  contains  nn  interesting  article  on  ''  John 
Aflgill  and  (ho  Oowardliness  of  Ujing,"  by  Mr. 
Keningnle  Cook. 

Hero  ia  a  [,'ladiatorial  exhibition,  more  respect- 
ablet!)  Ifluppofc,  and  perhaps  not  less  exciUng, 
than  too  mdderu  prizti-lighting : — 

"Theyvrilc  l^nn  Ilnth  thatoii  IliurMlav.  the  S.lrd  ol 
this  inniant.  will  Iw  plnvM  fiit  at  Sirord  and  Dagger,  at 
tlie  Wbite  I.yon  in  tlie  ^tfarkel  I'lut-e,  ii  purw  of  tliree 
guinea!,  alxo'linlf-a-rrown  each  htad :  and  on  Fridav,  the 
S-lth,  will  also  bu  plny'd  for  at  Jtiu'biH'ur.1,  a  pur»  ol 
three  guinea:'  3ud  liuif-a-erown  each  head.  All  tluDgs  to 
lie  eovcnu'd  (CFiirdiiig  to  the  l!u1e  uf  Snord  and  Daggor, 
and  Backiiword  I'laj' ;  and  (be  gamesters  to  mount  Iho 
stage  St  nine  o'clock  each  inornint;," 

The  prices  of  Stocks  quoted  are-- 
"S.S.  Stock.  Kit:  Aiinuitie9,lll  7-8tb«:  Rink  Stock, 
14.'t  Iqr. ;    iDdia,  173  Iqr. ;   Konth  ^a  Uouds,  2A  I3i. 
prem. ;  liidi*  do.,  SI.  iGt.  prem." 

Jame-s  T.  I'nE9r,ET. 

Clieltenhftm  I.ihr.ir>-. 

[Tlie  ilalieiawl  passagea  ace  as  in  the  original.] 


"  Richard  Parker,  Clarice,"  both  of  whom  irer^  I 
presume,  in  holy  orders  in  the  English  churdi. 
Edwakd  Pbaoocz. 

Botteatbrd  Uinor,  Biigg. 

"The  Names  of  >ncb  as  are  indicted  fn  tbe  Comitr  of 

Lincoln  for  herlng  HasM.     Signed  by  Thomas  ^aiot 

I'uU,  1SS8. 

"  Robert Dvmoke,'  Esquire,  TheLadyeBriggethii  wif. 

Thomas  Iloathe,<  Eaqniir,  Jotm  Whar<  gBntleman,  Wll. 

Ham  Tirwhjte,'   Esuuire,  Kliiabeth  Tirvblte   hit  wif, 

Koberle  Tirwhite.   John    Tirwhite,    Harmadnke  Tli^ 

white,  Kicholas  Tirwhite,  Clark,  Andrew  Litllaborie^ 

Snllcman,  Thomas  BelllnghaiD,*  John  Moml«re*, 
artin  Gravcner,'  Thomu  Allot*,  gentleman,  and  hla 
wif,  Edmund  Knowles,  Kichard  Tovatone,  John  Gr't*ni,* 
Ilandlebie,  Clark,  Jane  Parker,  wjdow,  Roger  Par- 
ker, Edwarde  I'arkar,  Richard  Parker,  Clark,  Philipp 
Parker,  Effame  Helaye,'   Marearet  Uorreleye,   George 

Michsell  Whittone,  Ba'itholmew of  Kyme,  Qarka^ 

CnUiberd  Bameihorpe.    William   More;  many   of  thoa 
j_  . indited  for  hearing  of  masse. 


Tiiymolbie,   h'ia    iif,  Mary    1  .        ., 

James  Tompson,  George  Tiler  and  bis  wif,  John  Netlamej 

Edward  Uolmes,  Anne  Bell,  Robert  Silleyr. 

"Pariomi  errnigiud  and  entitled  for  htarimgt  of 
JVa-c:  Thomas  fiootbe,  Esquire,  John  Wbarfa,  Senior. 
ffrooncis  Browne,  George  Cooke,  Margaret  Morrelevc," 
Jane  Patkner.  Thcijulb  St.  Pol." 


PERSOSS  I.S"DICTi;r)   IS    I.ISCOLXSIIIEE   FOE 
lIEAUIN'i;  MAS^  A.U.  loHi). 

The  followini;  transcript  from  a  paper  preserved 
(tmoug  the  I-an.^owne  Manuscripts  in  the  British 
Museuu  (30,  Xo.  75),  will  be  interesCiog  to  some 
of  the  readers  of  "  N.  &  Q." 

It  would  seeni  that  the  penal  laws  at  tbat 
period  were  only  brought  to  bear  in  this  country 
upon  the  well-to-do  persons.  Nearly  all  the 
people  in  tie  accompanying  list  were  of  gentle 
blood  and  good  connectioii.  It  is  curious  to  find 
amoag  tbem    "NicholAB  Tirwhite,  Clark"  and 


'  Robert  Uymoke  of  Scrirclsby,  eon  of  Sir  Edward 
Dynioke,  Knight,  by  his  wife  Anne,  daughter  of  ^ 
Ueorge  Talboyi.  Itobert  Dvmoke'a  wift  was  Bridget, 
eldeat  dsugbtcr  of  Edward  Lord  Cliuton,  Earl  of  Qd- 

*  Thomas  Bootbo  of  Killingholme. 

»  William  Tyrwhitt  of  Ketlleby,  near  Glamford 
Bridge,  eldest  ion  of  Sr  Kobert  Tvrwliilt  of  Scotter,  by 
his  wife  Elizabelh  Ozeubridge.  William  Tvrwhiit  mar- 
ried Elksbetli,  <lniighlerof  I'etcr  Frescbevilf^  of  Starve- 
ley,  niar  ChcKcrlield.  (,lli1.  Sotla  ••/  Tyrrhill  Fami^, 
second  ed.  p.  US.) 

'  Probably  one  of  Ihc  familv  of  Littlebart-  of  Staneby. 

i  Thomas,  one  <if  the  }-oungec  sons  of  John  Belling- 
ham,  of  Brumbi-woo.],  in  Ihe  parinh  of  Krudingbam. 
The  Lincolnshire  nellinghams  were  an  offihoot  rmm  the 
knightly  house  ofllellingliam  of  ildlingbain,  inXorthem- 

'''  i'robably  one  of  the  Slorlevx  of  Uolmc,  in  tba  pariah 
nfBottaaford. 

'  1'he  GrarcDOr^  were  a  gentle  family  long  settled  at 
Uessingham.  They  bora  llie  arms  of  the  house  or 
(irusvcnor  within  a  bordurv. 

•  Probably  John  Grantham. 

*  No  doabt  one  of  the  Uealcya  of  Burringhaui  la  the 
parish  of  Bollcaford. 

'"  John  Tliimblebr  of  Iraham,  second  son  ot  Sir  - 
Richard  Thlmbleby  of  that  place,  by  bis  wife  Katherine, 
daughter  of  Sir  Kobert  Tyrwhitt.  John  Tbimbleby 
mairieil.- for  his  firdt  wife, 'Mary,  daughter  of  (ieoige 
Saint  Paul  of  Snarford^  and,  secondly,  tbe  lady  men- 
tioned in  the  text,  viz.  Maud  or  Maudlyn,  daughter  of 
Andrew  Bylli-sbv.    He  bad  issue  by  both  matcbe*. 

11  Daughter  o'f  Andrew  Byllesby  of  Bylleaby,  by  hia 
wife  Margaret,  daughter  of  Robert  Beneaga  of  llalnton. 
.She  wag  sister  to  Maud  Thlmbleby,  »bo  was  iadlctad 


A^  S.  IX.  JuME  1,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


441 


AMERICAN  CENTENARIANISM. 

Several  contributions  having  appeared  in 
*'  N.  &  Q."  under  the  above  heading,  it  may  not 
be  inappropriate  to  include  the  following  instances 
of  ultra  longevity  recorded  among  the  obituaries 
in  this  country  for  1857.  These  are  contained  in 
a  work  entitled  Annual  Obituary  Notices  of  Emi^' 
nent  Persons  icho  have  Died  in  the  United  States  for 
18o7,  by  the  Hon.  Nathan  Crosby,  and  published 
in  Boston,  1858.  Although  these  notices  are 
compiled  from  newspapers,  *'  generally  from  papers 
in  the  vicinity  of  the  deceased,*'  they  are  also  de- 
rived from  more  authentic  sources,  for  the  author 
says :  "  I  have  sought  information  by  sending  more 
than  seven  hundred  circulars  to  friends  of  deceased 
asking  for  notices  Kn^  facts  "  : — 

Albaup:h,  Zachariah,  Licking  co.,  Ohio,  Nov.  8,  aet.  109. 
Born  in  Maryland,  1748,  private  in  Revolutionary  War. 

Albertson,  Elijah,  White  co.,  Tenn.,  May  23,  a;t.  105, 
Revolutionaiy  soldier. 

Austin,  Mrs.  Hannah,  Queensbnnr,  N.  Y.,  Jan.  1, 
at.  102. 

Cady,  Mrs.  Esther,  Rockville,  Conn.,  Jan.  27,  aet.  100. 
Niece  of  the  eld<?r  Jonathan  Edwards,  the  celebrated 
divine  and  metaphysician. 

Calhoun,  Joseph,  Dooley  co.,'  Ga.,  aet.  100  years  10 
months,  Revolutionary  soldier. 

Campbell,  Archibald,  ;July  20,  at.  101,  Greenbrier, 
Canada. 

Carlton,  Mrs.  Rebecca,  Bartlett,  X.  H.,  set.  104.  She 
completed  her  104th  year  in  March  ;  was  born  in  Bow  in 
1753.  Her  eight  children  were  all  living  at  the  time  of 
her  death,  the  youngest  being  over  sixty.  This  town  is 
noted  for  the  longevity  of  its  inhabitant^. 

Darling,  MiUy,  New  Haven,  Conn.,  Jan.  21,  aet.  100,  a 
n^ress. 

Debout,  Benj.,  Washington,  Pa.,  Nov.  9,  aet.  100. 

Empire,  John  F.,  Ephratah,  N.  Y.,  Oct.  26,  aet.  102, 
Revolutionary  soldier. 

Gates,  Mrs.  Susannah,  Hancock,  N.  II.,  May  1,  At.  100. 
She  was  one  of  the  nineteen  original  members  of  a  con- 
gregational church  organized  in  that  town  in  1788. 

Grimes,  S.  U.,  Georgia,  set.  110. 

Hale,  \Vm.,  Corinna,  Me.,  Aug.  20,  a?t.  100, 

Hill,  Solomon,  Elba,  Genesee  co.,  N.  Y.,  Sept.  11,  aet« 
103.  He  was  born  in  Westchester  co.  Sept.  23,  1753, 
Revolutionary  soldier. 

Huxford,  Hughey,  Baltimore,  Ma.,  ajt.  101,  Revolu- 
tionary' soldier. 

Jennings,  Mollic,  Pittsylvania,  Va.,  aet.  107. 

Loomis,  Levi,  East  Hartford,  Conn.,  May  25,  aet.  100 
years  and  II  months. 

Mintuen,  Joel,  Red  Bank,  N.  J.,  Jan.  22,  aet.  100. 

Newhouse,  Benj.,  Buffalo,  Pa.,  March  11,  aet,  100. 

Peak,  Henrj',  Cedar  Town,  Polk  co..  Ten.,  Feb.  7,  aet. 
102,  Revolutionary  soldier. 

Phillips,  Mrs.  Christiana,  New  Haven,  Conn.," April  28, 
.-ct.  109. 

Pickard,  Benj.,  I*ari3,  N.  Y.,  Aug.,  aet.  101,  Revolu- 
tionary soldier. 

Pilate,  Mrs.,  Laurens  co.,  Ga.,  Dec.  22,  set  116. 

Purdy,  Mrs.  Margaret,  Spencer,  N.  Y.,  Nov.  9,  aet.  107. 

Redlon,  Mrs.  Sarah,  Maine,  aet.  100. 

Richert,  Martin,  Washington,  Ma.,  aet.  107.  He  came 
to  America  at  the  close  of  the  Revolution,  and  cast  his  first 
vote  for  Washington.  The  Ilagerstown  Mail  says  he  was 
Accustomed  when  a  hundred  years  of  age  to  walk  to  Clear- 
spring,  a  distance  of  four  miles  and  a  half. 


Roahb,  John,  Frederick  co..  Ma.,  Nov.  9,  aet.  100. 

Sellers,  Mrs.  Marj-,  Manchester,  Pa.,  aet.  104. 

Shields,  Robert,  Harrison  co.,  Va.,  Jan.  16,  aet.  107. 
.  Shilling,  Mrs.,  Flo^'d  co.,  Va.,  Jan.  30,  aet.  106.    Had  a 
son  living  at  the  time  of  her  death  in  his  eighty-eighth 
year. 

Smith,  Joseph,  Rev.,  Hardin  co.,  Ky.,  Dec.  3,  aet.  107. 

From  the  same  work  a  great  number  of  persons 
might  be  quoted  as  having  survived  to  the  age  of 
ninety ;  many  had  almost  reached  tbeir  hundredth 
year.  I  have  selected,  however,  only  those  re- 
corded as  centenarians.  Aladdin, 


Longevity. — The  oldest  person  drawing  a  pen- 
sion from  the  United  States  Treasury  is  Eliza  R. 
Arrowsmith,  of  Sopierset  County,  New  Jersey. 
She  is  one  hundred  and  four  years  old  and  in  pos- 
session of  all  her  faculties.  Her  yearly  pension  is 
six  hundred  dollars.  Her  husband  was  an  as- 
sistant commissary  of  hides  during  the  revolu- 
tionary war.  M.  E. 

Philadelphia. 

[Is  there  any  and  what  evidence  of  Mrs.  Arrowsmith's 
very  exceptional  age  ?— Ed.  **  N.  &  Q."] 


WASTE  PAPER,  ETC. 

*'  What  can  we  do  with  our  waste  paper,  old 
envelopes,  reports,  &c.  ? "  is  a  query  which,  I 
think,  has  been  more  than  once  asked  in  these 
pages ;  and  no  doubt  it  often  arises,  especially  as 
the  seasons  return  when  we  are  accustomed  to 
the  needful,  but  tiresome,  process  of  '*  setting  to 
rights''  our  houses  and  receptacles  of  various 
kinds. 

Permit  me,  therefore,  to  mention  an  excellent 
channel  by  which  not  only  the  above-named 
articles,  but  old  books,  periodicals,  maps,  music, 
newspapers,  children's  lesson  and  school  books, 
&c.  &c.,  may  be  made  of  real  service. 

It  is  "  The  Missions  Library,"  which  was  esta- 
blished in  18t58  by  Mr.  Suter  (address  32,  Cheap- 
side,  London),  to  receive  such  from  friends  who 
had  them  to  spare,  and  then  to  assort  and  supply 
them  to  mai^y  quarters  abroad  and  at  home,  wnere 
they  would  be  respectively  useful.  How  gladly 
these  have  been  received,  and  how  urgently  they 
are  appealed  for  from  various  individuals  and  ob- 
jects, the  little  papers  he  will  gladly  supply  best 
tell.  Last  year  513S  volumes  were  thus  issued. 
Very  various  are  they,  and  as  various  the  objects 
supplied:  for  instance,  among  the  latest  issues 
were  supplies  to  libraries  and  friends  at  Simla, 
Benares,  Tenby,  and  Bandon  (Ireland) ;  the  por- 
ters at  Canonbury,  and  guards  of  Great  Northern 
Railway  stations;  besides  numerous  vessels  de- 
layed in,  or  departing  from^  our  commercial  docks. 
But  on  this  subject  I  will  not  dwell;  though 
allow  me  to  put  m  a  plea  for  help  from  friends, 
who  may  sometimes  find  on  their  shelves  books 
whicli  have  ceased  to  be  of  use  to  them. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*»  8  UL  JuHs  1,  *7t. 


It  is  especiftlly  for  waste  paper  T  would  now 
appeal.  Notwithstandiog  the  greatest  oconomy, 
and  Mr.  Suters  p>atuit«>ufl  devotion  of  valuable 
time,  and  space  also,  to  the  object,  expenses  for 
binding  and  packing  have  accumulated  and  now 
press  heavily.  This  ought  not  to  weigh  on  one 
thus  labouring  for  the  pood  of  others.  So  I  beg 
to  place  before  the  readers  of  *•  N.  &  Q."  who  are, 
doubtless,  like  others,  "  inundated  "  by  daily  post 
deliveries  of  pamphlets,  circulars,  &c.,  the  follow- 
ing notice  which  Mr.  Suter  has  lately  issued :  — 

**  The  friends  an<I  supporters  of  th*»  Minsions  Library 
(32,  Cbeap»ide,  LmuUm)  an*  respectfully  informed  that 
frte&t  benefit  wouKl  nrixc  to  the  funds  by  the  sale  of  urate 
paptry  in  the  form  of  oM  reports,  ma^n/incs,  pamphlets, 
newspapers,  aooount  bonk<.  &o..  ^c. ;  n^^^\  that  their  kind 
holp  in  collecting;  and  forwarding  it  m'HI  be  much  valued, 
and  go  towards  nuetin;;  the  increasing  exf»en:«cs.** 

It  appears  that,  during  the  last  year,  above  81/. 
was  thus  realised. 

Many  friends,  debarred  by  health  or  circiim- 
stances  from  active  employ,  might  do  good  by 
collecting  and  assorting  waste  paper  for  this  object. 
As  the  price  given  varies  for  printed  or  writing 
paper,  the  nuu^s  should  be  so  divided,  and  into 
Dundles  of  various  sizes;  envelopes  should  be 
also  tied  up  according  to  size,  letters  and  accounts 
may  be  torn  up. 

Of  course  it  would  be  a  lack  of  "  consideration  '■ 
to  forward  packages  without  pre-pavment  or 
enclosing  stamps  fi)r  carriage.  And  Mr,  Suter 
also  requests  that  the  names  of  donors  be  given, 
that  he  mav  forward  due  acknowled:rment, 

S.  M.  S. 

rOPULAi:  FKF.NCII  .SONCS. 

*'  Si  j'etais  potit  oispau  "  was  written  in  1817, 
and  s«^t  to  music  by  Wilhelm,  though  J^i$ranger 
(the  author)  intonded  it  to  be  sung  to  the  air  of 
an  old  ditty,  "  11  faut  quo  Ton  tile  doux."  The 
Germans  have  a  very  old  sonar,  "  1  would  not  be 
a  little  Bird."  '  It  is  not  unlike  Btiranger's  effii- 
fiion,  but  the  ro«?ombhince  is  probably  purely  acci- 
dental. Indeed,  if  we  speculate  on  the  leading 
idea  in  this  class  of  sonjjs,  we  may  go  Kick  to 
the  gorgeous  poetry  of  the  inspired  psalmist  who 
longed  for  ^*  the  wings  of  a  dove  that  he  might 
flee  away  an»l  be  at  n-st.*' 

"  Ir  I  wi:i:k  a  t^htlk  U:r:»  ? 

"'Mill  tho  n-.iwd  tboii^rli  doomed  to  dw^-ll, 
I  lontr,  lil<«*  a  binl.  to  fly 
To  tho  bluf  lake's  short',  to  the  forest  dill. 
And  tho  niountaip.  towering  hi^jli. 
I  Would  <pi'od  mv  flight 
Thro' liclds  of  light. 

When  tho  air  was  balm,  and  the  heavon  was  bright : 
I  Wf>uM  lly  tb'Ofly, 
Candling  sweetly. 
If  I  were  a  littlo  bird  ! 

*  I  bare  not  n  copy  of  this  song,  which  a  German  gen- 
tlcman  repeated  to  mc  st»Qic  time  ago.    1  mention  l\\Va  \tv 
case  anv  corrcspoodcnt  of  "  N.  &  Q."  should  atk  me 
forlL 


"  The  Digfatinirtle,  in  the  hedge>n>w  shade, 
Shomd  lend  me  her  magic  trill 
For  a  lovesome  greet  to  the  shepherd-maid 
When  the  gloaming  dew  fell  chill ; 

And  I*d  chirp  at  the  door 

Of  the  hermit  hoar. 
Who  gives  dried  fruits  to  the  pilgrim  poor. 

I  woald  fly  fleetly, 

Carolling  sweetlv, 
Tf  I  were  a  little  biril 

•*  At  fpstal-tide,  when  the  joyous  throng 
Give  life  to  the  village  green. 
My  notes  should  swell  to  the  choral  song. 
And  the  shout  to  the  May-day  queea  ; 
And  I'd  troll  my  rin'ie 
Of  the  coming  time. 
Our  proscrits'  chant  in  an  alien  clinic : 
I  would  fly  fleetly. 
Carolling  Hweetly, 
If  I  were  a  little  bird ! 
**  On  the  iron  bars,  where  the  snn  falls  dim 
On  the  prisoners*  latticed  room, 
I  would  perch  and  wad,  with  mv  soothing  faymD, 
A  ray  that  should  cheer  the  gloom  ; 
Then  one  would  smile, 
And  another  the  while 
Should  dream  of  his  home  in  a  distant  isle, 
I  woidd  fly  fleetly, 
Carolling  Hweetly, 
If  I  were  a  little  bird ! 
••  I  would  seek  the  dome  where  a  tyrant  reigns. 
And  court-slaves  bond  the  knee  : 
And  hiA  heart  should  thrub  to  my  freeborn  strains. 
While  I  hid  in  an  olive-tree ; 
And  a  tiny  spray 
I  wonld  l>ear  away 
To  drop  'mid  the  heat'of  the  battle  fray. 
I  would  flv  fleet Iv, 
Carolling  sweetlv. 
If  I  were  a  little  bird! 

"  nevellers !  ye,  at  the  midnight  hour 
Who  pledge  to  the  ruby  wine — 
The  !»in*n  lays  from  your  Paphian  bower 
Never  should  blend  with  mine. 

One  faithful  brca<t 

Should  l»o  tho  nest. 
Where  my  wearied  winglets  droop'd  to  rest. 

I  would  fly  fleetly. 

Carolling  sweetlv. 
If  I  were  a  littlo  bird  l"' 

James  IIkxry  Diiox. 


X'TRcui.ATiyo  Libraries. — It  would  seem  that 
Edinburgh  was  before  London  in  supplying  ozte 
of  the  greatest  luxuries  of  modem  civilisation. 
The  late  Mr.  liobert  Chambers  savs,  in  his 
Traditions  of  Edinburgh  (ed.  l^*09),  that  Allan 
Ramsav  — 

**  in  1725  .  .  .  fict  up  a  circul.iting  library,  whence  he 
difl'used  plays  an'l  other  works  of  Action  among  the  people 
of  Edinburgh.  It  appears  fronl  some  private  notes  of 
the  historian  Wodrow  that,  in  1728,  the  niaji:iatrates, 
moved  by  some  meddling  spirits,  took  alarm  at  the  effieet 
of  this  kind  of  reading  on  the  minds  of  yonth,  and  made 
an  attempt  to  put  it  down,  but  without  effect*' — ^P.  25. 

The  following  extract  from  Buckle's  JSTiifafy 
of  C\vi£\«]itton  tn  En^Umd  shows  the  position  our 


4»  a  IX  Jan  I,  •7*0 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


"When  Fr«nV!in  etme  to  London  in  1725,  there  wts 
not  ■  nnirle  circolmtirg  library  in  lire  metropolii.  See 
FnnMiii'*  Lifi  of  aimtlf  (i.  M),  ■nd  in  l<i97  the  onlj 
library  in   LondoD  which  ipproached   tba  nature  of  a 

Kblio  lihniry  wbb  that  of  Sioo  Collegf ,  belonging  to  tb« 
ndou  clerey  (Elli«'»  Lttltri  nfLittrary  Mol,  p.  !«,) 
Tba  eiael  date  of  the  ortieat  cirenlating  library  I  h*»« 
not  yet  wcertained ;  but,  aooording  to  Sonthey  (TV 
Doctor,  edit.  Waiter,  1M8,  p.  JTl),  the  fim  set  np  in 
London  via  about  tlie  middle  or  the  eigtiteenth  ceatary 
by  Samuel  Fanronrt."— Vol.  i.  p.  393. 

K.  P.  D.  E.     I 

[We  are  inclined  to  Ihink  the  fint  circulating  library  I 
in  Scotland  was  at  Dunfennline  in  1711,  fourteen  veara  I 
before  Allui  RamUT  eaUblished  one  at  Edlnborgh,  nib. 
According  to  the  MottMy  JUiMiae  (1801),  zl.  238,  the  | 
fiiM  in  London  wa*  comnuMKed  at  No.  ISi,  m  the  SCraod, 
b^  a  bookMdler  at  tbo  name  of  Wright  about  1710 :  he  , 
waa  encceeded  in  the  ume  concern  by  Batho,  nbo  waa  | 
aacceeded  by  Jobn  Bell.]  i 

PIIBCEIJ.TBS  Composer. — Tbe  following  nbljce 
will  b«  iotereBtinz  to  those  persoDS  who  take  &d 
interest  in  tho  hietoij  of  thi*  once  Mlebnted 
and  admiraUe  miuical  composet :  — 

"  Whereas  Edirtid  Pnrcdl,  only  aon  to  the  FanMm*  I 
Ut.  Bran-  PuctU,  atands  candidate  foe  the  OrpuiK'a 

G'ace  of  St.  Andrew,  Uidboni,  In  the  room  of  bia  nocla  , 
r.  Daniel  Purcell.  deceased— Tbia  ia  to  give  notice, 
that  the  place  ia  to  be  decided  by  a  general  Poll  of 
HoDiekeepers  of  the  said  Parish,  whain  be  hnmbly  hopea, 
notwitbaUoding  the  Mae  and  malicionB  Sepotta  of  bis 
being  a  Papist,  will  be  itaeiaCant  to  him  In  obtaiahig  the 
Hid  place. 

"  N.B.  The  election  will  begin  opon  Tneiday  the  17th, 
at  nine  in  the  njoraing.and  coutinue  till  Friday  follawing 
to  foiu  in  the  afternoon." — Tht  DaUy  CannnU,  Dec  li, 
1717. 

Not  having  the  DaSy  Covnmt  for  the  Fridnj 
following,  the  writer  hu  not  ascertained  the  fHt« 
of  the  election.  Did  either  Edward  Pureell  or 
his  uncle  Daniel  leave  deacendsiita  P  J.  H. 

[In  the  biographical  notice  of  Honry  Pareell  attached 
to  bia  works,  edited  by  Vinoent  Xovello,  It  la  alaled  Hut 
bii  wn  Edward  in  172G  wan  decled  organist  of  St.  Mar- 
garet's, Westminster,  and  that  he  also  hdd  the  dmltar 
Kat  St.  Clement  Eoslcfaeap,  and  tbat  dying  in  1740  ' 
ras  succeeded  in  the  latter  plaea  by  bia  am  Hnty,  ' 
who  also  became  organist  of  St.  Edmnnd-tbe-Klng,  Loa- 
doQ,  and  afterwinli  of  St.  John,  Haelcnfy.  llentioQ  i* 
aUomade  of  Heniy  Porcell's  two  brothers— Edward,  -- 
Gentleman  Usher  to  Charles  II.,  and  altcrwaids  aariati  _ 
Sir  George  Rookc  and  tbe  Prince  of  Ueise  In  ttae  takina; 
and  defence  of  Gibraltar,  who  died  in  1717  ;  and  Daniel, 
oisaniat  of  Magdalen  College,  Oxford,  and  aflenrardi  of 
St.  Andrew'*  church,  Holboru.  It  ii  not  atated  wbetbei 
tlie  latter  lelY  any  deacendanta.] 

HntALAYAii  Botany. — Is  aieceDtniuDber  of  a 
populaJ'  magazine*  I  was  much  atmck  witii  tiw 
following  passage;  and  hope  Mb.  ButUH,  at 
some  other  learned  correspondent,  will  eithur  emi>- 
firm  the  statement  of  the  author  in  quaMioii,  <k 
disahose  me  of  a  painful  infveiaioii :  — 
"  distant  fields  ....  erimsoD  with  tha  MunntkM  [qo. 
tn/oItMB  f]  in  full  bloom,  nearly  ripe  fer  tbe  hwfart,  tMa- 
balaams,  wild  dahUaa  [outcaata  ntbttof  ItaagudMr^ 


together  with  tbe  wild  yellow  Mrawbeny"  [qn.^etn- 
(iUarj. 

The  author  had  preyioDal^  described  theftterw^ 
poiypodittm,  and  gottupUrti  \>j  their  botanical 
nuies — h«ice  mj  sorpiue:  for,  haring  wfmU 
lived  maujr  years  in  the  HimalaTas,  and  erai 
made  a  ftorhia  tieetu  there,  I  wm  expecting  infbr- 
mation.  I  mar  add,  that  I  have  f^uratl^  hend 
unobaervant  Europeans  in  thoM  mouatama  ««11 
bj-  the  name  of  "  English  daisy "  q«ite  anotfaer 
fiower.  ^e  same  writer  apeaks  ^so  of  the  m.anj 
of  the  "JHtcr  Himalaya!^"  aa  aeen  fins 


^mla. 


Fxoimiciazioir  oi  Axsbkuut  Naxk. — Con- 

neclicat  is  almoM  nmraaUy  called  Cmmeticat. 
Michigan  ia  caUed'Mish-a-gaa.widi  the  acoent  OB 
the  first  qrllable.  Tka  yifofu  of  Tonnasaan  call 
their  state  Tm  ■mibo;  sl«nrlian  itia  Moenllf 
called  Tsn-t^a-*«>;  tba  aboiigiiiM  eaUad  it  Ta»- 
iMi-K»,  aa  all  Indiaii- ■■mas  of  thna  ^IlalikR 
have  the  accent  on  the  ndddle  ijIlaUe.  lUintb 
ia  called  lUiihnc^  or  ninhnoii,  usually  the  flnL 
Muyland  is  called  Uar-rub-luiuL  aeeotted  on  the 
first  pliable.  The  people  of  Misaoaii  call  their 
state  AGa-aotf-mh :  euewhare  it  is  nsoally  oallad 
His-EOO-ree.  Cindnnati  is  called  Sn-rin-MBUti^ 
Annapolie  waa  fimnarly  called  AmMpoUt.  Sam 
Haute  in  Indiana,  foonded  by  the  French,  ia  onn- 
monly  calbd  Teny-^it  Uimia. 


A  Cimoiia  Bill — The  fbUowiig  cnttisff  ia 
from  the  Tmtnift  WMt  AmMs,  Wm  Ifl^  iItS. 
I  have  turned  aTerw»i«baiDkiinmbers,Biit  cannot 
find  the  report  of  the  LactOM.  I  think  the  latter 
wortli  piuaeiviBg  aa  a  yeomen  of  what  "goaa 
the  roonda  " — ia  quoted  aa  authentic  by  a  iMtwer, 
and  beUeved  to  be  ao  by  an  Ajmatri.KiAX :  — 


say  the  Wentwarik  . 

Abbey  one  la  tha  originsli  parties  yoBwiH  kindly  n- 
prist  iL  It  went  tb*  laond  of  tke  pariodieel  prea  aane 
yeara  an.  It  ran*  tha*:— '.^  ArimM  JNO.— Vev.  1, 
16D6,  '•TbaBn.J,Ilacnh^to  J.JoiuB,  Mnar.S^-- 
paliB  to  TTmnan  f^t^*^**"^  flbaptli  For  aoudly  ran 
StTjoaaiib.  td.i  daaahis  and  oraadMndnc  tha  B^ 


Kia£?S 

Hie  Ber.J.SbegnfaeBMt  hambeaabeU 

man  if  be  kept  ■  Btnun  Ccthtdia  chml  bi  ' 

Ki^nd  in  1606 ;  aaiJ.  JoMi^  Jobiei,  a  promLif 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i^^  S.  IX.  Jmix  1,  "n 


Feeeholdbbs   IK  1701    AND    1871.  —  Please 

preserve  the  accompanying  paragraph    in  your 

columns :  — 

*'  At  the  last  quarter  sessions  a  committee  of  magis- 
trates of  the  connly  of  Derby  made  a  report  relative  to 
the  records  of  the  coanty,  and  it  contains  the  following 
very  interesting  statements : — *  llie  land  tax  duplicates 
commence  in  1777,  under  the  provisions  of  the  17th 
George  II.,  cap.  1,  and  subsequent  Acts,  and  come  down 
to  1832,  showing  the  names  of  the  occupiers  and  owners 
of  land  within  the  county  during  that  period,  and  the 
sum  at  which  they  were  assessed.  These  will  afford 
another  valuable  evidence  of  proprietary  rights,  as  will 
the  list  of  freeholders,  leaseholders,  and  copyholders,  be- 
ginning in  1760  and  continuing  till  182i),  when  they 
were  superseded  by  the  jury  list  returns,  which  continue 
to  this  time,  the  whole  containing  a  faitliful  record  of  the 
owners  of  real  property  in  the  county  for  more  than  a 
century.  ...  As  much  has  been  said  and  written  of  late 
with  the  view  of  showing  that  the  owners  of  land  decrease 
in  number,  it  should  be  known  that  in  the  year  17G1  tlie 
freeholders,  copyholders,  and  leaseholders  in  the  county 
of  Derby  were  1007,  and  in  the  year  1871  thej'  numbered 
12,12i:'^Chamber  of  Agriculture  Journal,  Aim\  29, 1872. 

K.  P.  D.  E. 

Monastic  Relics.— I  send  the  following  extract 
from  the  Worcester  Herald  of  April  27, 1872,  con- 
taining some  account  of  the  recent  discoveries  at 
Worcester. 

These  monastic  buildings  attached  to  the  Cathe- 
dral were  most  carefully  described  in  the  Journal 
of  the  Arch<Bological  Institute  for  18G3,  by  Pro- 
fessor Willis.  Thomas  E.  Winning  ton. 

**  An  interesting  fragment  of  the  ancient  monaster}'  of 
Worcester  has  been  brought  to  light  within  the  last  few 
days.  It  had  beon  decided  to  pull  down  the  prebendal 
house  formerly  occupied  by  Canon  Benson  and  his  suc- 
cessor, the  late  Canon  Wynter.  This  house  liad  been  one 
of  the  ugliest  of  brick  buildings,  and  for  some  generations 
past  haa  been  a  grievous  eyesore  to  all  artists  contem- 
plating sketches  of  the  Cathedral  from  its  west  and  south 
sides.  Its  destruction,  therefore,  undoubtedly  meets  with 
the  public  approval ;  but  then  it  was  known  to  rest  upon 
a  very  ancient  substructure  of  excellent  Norman  rib 
vaulting,  originally  open  from  one  end  to  the  other, 
70  ft.  long,  13  ft.  G  in.  wide,  in  five  compartments,  which 
opened  to  the  ground  without  by  as  many  archos.  Two 
buttresses  projected  westward  from  the  gable,  which 
stands  on  a  high  bank  next  the  Severn,  and  from  its 

Eeculiar  form  and  position  Professor  Willis  declared  it  to 
ave  been  the  monastic  'necessarium,'  as  that  ofHce  is 
similarly  situated  at  Durham.  The  monastic  infirmary' 
and  its  chapel  were  stated  to  be  above  this  vaulting,  and 
when  the  fifth  and  eighth  prebendal  houses  were  con- 
structed on  this  site  the  vaults  were  turned  into  kitchens 
and  cellars,  and  the  superstructure  built  up  with  as  much 
of  the  ruins  of  the  infirmnr}'  and  its  chapel  as  were  avail- 
able. A  few  dnys  ago,  in  demolishing  the  brick  walls, 
the  workmen  came  upon  a  range  of  early  Norman  lights 
in  the  upper  storey ;  they  were  six  in  number,  and  as 
close  together  as  the  deep  splays  through  a  thick  wall 
would  permit ;  the  character  of  the  work  is  exceedingly 
plain,  and  similar  in  every  respect  to  the  Norman  lights 
opening  into  the  vaults  beneath  the  College  School ;  they 
cannot,  therefore,  be  less  than  700  years  old.  In  what 
way  this  curious  arrangement  of  a  row  of  windows  could 
have  been  required  for  an  infirmary  we  know  not,  or 
whether  it  was  the  southern  wall  of  the  house  occupied 


by  the  keeper  of  the  infirmarr,  ia  not  dear ;  bat  at  nj 
rate  it  is  a  very  picturesque  rain,  aod  we  are  sUd  tolNir 
that  it  wiU  be  preserved,  together  with  the  £ie  Nonoiii 
vaulting  and  other  ancient  masonry  forming  the  fimnda- 
tions  of  the  old  bouse.  So  far  as  the  warden  of  dun 
premises  can  be  made  available  it  is  to  be  used  for  a- 
larging  the  play-ground  of  the  GoUego  Sdiool  boji. 
Canon  Barry,  the  successor  to  Dr.  Wvnter,  we  bear,  vQI 
reside  in  the  house  lately  occapied  by  Miss  Kilverti  tt 
the  south-west  angle  of  'College  Oreen.  This  lesidoMe 
is  still  called  '  The  Oven,*  and  deaotes  the  site  of  tbs 
monastic  bakehouse." 


^unrieif* 


Sir  JonN  Austen. — ^I  have  lately,  throoffh  tha 
death  of  a  relative,  acquired  a  large  collectioa  of 
prints,  water-colour  and  chalk  drawings  \  some  of 
the  best  of  these  are  marked  ''  from  the  coUectioii 
of  Mr.  Austen."  Perhaps  some  of  your  subsoi* 
bei^  can  give  me  information  about  tluB  collectioa. 

[The  pictures  belonged  to  the  collection  of  Sir  Johi 
Austen,  Bart.,  of  Derhams,  in  Middlesex,  M.P.  for  md- 
dlescx,  who  died  on  March  22, 1742.  •  There  ia  a  printad 
catalogue  of  his  entire  collection  in  the  British  Moseom. 
It  was  dispersed  by  Mr.  Prestage  of  Savile  Row  oa  Jul 
9  and  10, 1765.] 

Old  Cipheb,  and  Johk  Ebbdikastd  Basix.^ 
Is  there  any  means  of  finding  out  to  whom  Aa 
cipher  of  which  I  send  you  a  rubbing  beloogaP 
It  occurs  on  a  miniature  frame,  and  ia  anrmonntad 
with  a  French  ducal  (?)  coronet  The  data  il 
1710.  In  the  centre  are  the  letters  MI  (JSi^ 
crossing  each  other,  which  are  not  repeated  ana 
reversed.  The  repeated  letters  are  S.  d,  H.  The 
portrait  is  by  Johannes  Ferdinand  Bader.  Ii  ba 
Known  ?  J.  C  J. 

The  *' Billycock  "  OB  "  Widr-awajcb"  BLiZi 
The  late  Earl  of  Mount  Norris  informed  me  that 
this  now  common  hat  was  first  introdooed  on  hit 
estate  at  Areley.  He  said  that  one  of  the  enuMBt 
firm  of  Christie,  London,  when  inspecting  the 
gardens  and  grounds  of  Areley  Castle,  remailnd 
that  the  chimney-pot  hats  of  the  peasants  wen 
not  at  all  suited  for  working  men,  and  that  hs 
would  try  to  invent  something  better.  Lend  IL 
said  that  a  few  weeks  after  uds  a  laige  vadst 
of  ''  billycocks  "  arrived  as  a  present  finm  MeaHii 
Christie.  They  were  distriDuted  amongst  the 
labourers,  and  became  so  popular  that  the  neig^ 
bouring  hatters  began  to  mann&ctore  them,  and 
so  they  spread  all  over  the  country.  I  have  hand 
the  above  relation  over  and  over  again.  How^ 
ever,  his  lordship  may  have  been  miatmVffn  and 
have  misunderstood  Mr.  Christie  as  to  the  invvB- 
tive  part  of  the  story,  and  sudi  hats  may  hafs 
been  worn  before  the  packet  from  Christie's 
arrived  at  Areley.  Be  this  as  it  may,  I  am  oob- 
vinced  that  Lord  M.  firmly  belierad  that  Mb 
labourers  first  sported  the  '' widenawalgi "  iMrtm 
Perhaps  SiB  Thohas  WmmreTur,  ^Amm  mtX  k 


4«>»  S.  IX.  JiWB  1, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


445 


near  Areley,  can  say  a  word  in  elucidation  of  this 
interesting  subject  of  local  history.* 

Jambs  Henby  Dixok,  LL.D. 

"Adam  Blaib." — J.  G.  Lockhart  concludes 
the  pathetic  tale  entitled  Adam  Blair  -with  the 
words — "  1  have  told  a  true  story."  Any  Scotch- 
man reading  the  tale  will  be  likely  to  form  that 
opinion  before  he  learns  it  from  the  author.  Can 
any  of  your  correspondents  say  who  was  meant  by 
Adam  iBlair^  and  what  parish  oy  Cross-Meikle  P 

G.  K. 

Lords  of  Brecon. — Can  any  one  tell  me  where 
I  can  find  a  pedigree  of  the  lords  of  Brecon  ?  I 
want  to  find  the  pedigree  of  Bethin  ap  Maenarch. 
the  last  lord  of  Brecon^  and  shall  be  much  obligea 
if  any  one  can  tell  where  is  my  best  chance  of 
getting  at  it.  H.  A.  DB  Salis. 

109,  Finboro'  Road,  West  Brompton. 

Catechism. — Who  is  the  author  of  a  work  with 

the  following  titie  P — 

**■  Cat^chiflme  raisonn^  traduit  dA  TAnglois,  par  Milord 
....  avec  an  discoors  pr^minaire  de  M.  Formey.  A 
Halle  et  &  Leipzig,  chez  Daniel  Blanc,  Libiaire  privi* 
Idgie  da  Roi  et  de  TAcad^oiie.    mdcclvi." 

There  is  some  account  of  this  work  in  the 
JBibUothkque  tmiverselle  of  M.  Le  Clerc,  iz.  95,  but 
no  light  is  throvm  upon  the  author.  N. 

"  A  CoMPLEAT  Collection  of  Dbvotioks,"  Bra 

In  1734  was  published  in  Londoni  printed  for  the 

author — 

**  A  Compleat  Collection  of  Devotions  both  Publlck  and 
Private,  taken  from  the  Apostolical  Gonstitutiona,  the 
Ancient  Liturgies,  and  the  Common  Prayer-Books  of  the 
Charch  of  England.    In  two  parts." 

The  Tolume  (8vo)  contains  about  350  pa^es, 
with  an  appendix  in  justification  of  the  foregomg 
undertaking,  &c  Information  is  requested  as  to 
the  name  of  the  author,  and  under  what  drcam- 
stances  was  the  compilation  made  P 

EswASD  Hahsigns. 

Walton  Hall. 

rThis  work  is  by  Dr.  Thomas  Deacon,  a  nonjoring 
bisnop,  who  died  at  Manchester,  Febroarv  16,  1768.  A 
long  biographical  accoant  of  this  remarkabla  man  and 
admirable  scholar  appeared  in  «*N.  A  Q."  1"<  S.  zii.  85. 
Consalt  also  2»d  S.  i.  176  ;  iiL  479 ;  iv.  476  ;  8'*  8.  iU. 
24S ;  xii.  59.  At  Sotheby's  on  Jane  5, 1867,  it  fetched 
2/.  7«.  It  was  reprinted  in  Hall*s  'Froffmenta  LUmrgtcOf 
1848,  voL  vi.,  see  also  voL  L  p.  zlL] 

Divorce.  —  I  requested  Mr.  Chashock  (see 
ante,  p.  806)  to  favour  me  with  some  authority 
for  the  statement  that  a  woman  who  has  been 
divorced  from  a  husband  retains  the  name  ihe 
acquired  by  marriage,  and  he  iterates  hia  former 
opinion.  In  view  of  the  advexse  citation  by 
Wharton,  I  desire  to  be  referred  to  the  rule  A 
law  under  which  this  has  become  a  thing  fixed 
and  settled.    Has  Lord  Penzance  in  any  decree 

*  What  is  the  meaning  of  6%codlf  ••  Wide-awaksT 
is  dear  enongh,  and  requires  no  ezplanfttioD. 


t> 


of  dissolution  given  a  deliverance  on  this  subject, 
or  did  his  predecessor,  Sir  Cresswell  Cresswell  ? 
If  so,  what  and  when  ?         Babbi8IE&-ai-Law. 

FouB  Aess  OF  Man. — On  what  authori^  is  the 
symbolization  of  four  ages  of  man  by  tne  four 
seasons  of  the  year  attributed  to  Pythagoras? 

J.F. 

Gowbie  Conspibact. — ^At  the  time  when  men's 

ears  were  ringing  with  rumours  as  to  this  affiur, 

a  pamphlet  in  liavour  of  the  (so-called)  consmiators 

waa  published.  Whether  it  was  ever  printedL  or  only 

circulated  in  manuscript  seems  uncertain.   PMba- 

bly,  however,  it  was  printed  in  Edinburgh.    Mr. 

Bisset  says  (JS8i(^s  on  HittorunA  Truth,  285):-^ 

«  Eveiything  in  the  shape  of  a  dsfenoe  of  th«  Earl  of 
Gowrie  and  his  brothor  was  so  effs^iially  destroyed  that 
not  a  aiD|^  copy  of  a  small  tract  written  in  vindication 
of  them  can  now  be  mat  wiUu** 

Is  it  really  quite  oertun  that  this  txeatise  is  lost 
beyond  hope  of  xecoTeiryP  Books  turn  up  in 
strange  places,  and  knowing  as  we  do  the  social 
intercourse  wmch  took  place  at  that  time  between 
Scotland,  on  the  one  lumd,  and  Holland,  Elandan^ 
and  Germany  on  the  other,  is  it  too  much  to  hope 
that  a  copy  of  thy  relic  may  still  be:  sleeping  ^i 
some  foreign  libnoy  P  The  disooyery  of  this  work 
would,  we  presume,  go  far  towards  clearing  up  a 
transaction  which  seems  to  most  people  inydlyed 
in  impenetrable  mystery.  OoBiniB. 

JoHK  ss  VATieuBBBO. — Can  any^  one  giye  me 
information  respecting  John  de  Vatigueno.  who 
lived  in  1521,  as  I  haye  his  prophec3%  published 
in  that  year  (a  most  remamble  production)  re- 
specting the  first  French  Beydlution  P 

WiLTBID  OP  QaLWAT. 

Milton  Qubbies  (2).— Sonnet  ttii.  <<  To  Cy» 

riack  Skinner" —  * 

*'CyiSack,  this  time  y9»n  day  these  eyes,  though  dear. 
To  outward  vieir,  of  blemish  or  of  spot  .  .  .  . " 

Haye  we  not  here  a  ample  error  of  the  press  P 
A  transposition  of  type  P  <^This  three  yean  day  ** 
lor  Tkreo  yean  this  day  f 

''Three  years  this  day  these  eyes  haye  licxr- 
gotten  their  seeing  **  is  plain  enough,  but  what  can 
«this  three  years  day  mean"P  Is  there  any 
^nular  ezpreadon  in  Milton  or  in  any  otiher 
writer  P  J.  vaxuB., 

Bsy.  Saxvel  P^ck,  M.A.,  was  a  fellow  of 
Magdalen  Hall,  Oxford,  and  rector  of  St  Mat» 
thew*8,  Ipswich  (see  Wadderspoon's  Mmnoriab  cf 
Ipsuw^).  In  his  will  dftted  May  S6,  1700,  nod 
proved  in  the  PrerogaHye  Oonrt  of  Oanterbw 
on  April  — >  170L  no  describes  himself:  *^lf 
Samuel  F^ck  of  Ipswieh,  Clerk,''  &c  WImi 
and  where  did  he  die,  «id  where  was  he  buried  P 
Ai^  infonnftlioa  as  to  his  anosston  and  desonidp 
ants  will  be  McepteiUB  to        Ohaxlh  Mamv. 

9t  GOoMSSlir  Cnmnti  B^  Psric 


446 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4>k  S.  IX.  JuMs  1, 72. 


Poem  ox  the  Monastic  Life. — In  an  interest- 
ing accouut  of  Mont  St.  Michel,  I  lind  this  pass- 
age :— 

"  Un  innnii^orit  do  pcH^sicsinvditcs  de  co  monastcre  noun 
rcpr^sente  la  cljiustration  com  me  favorable  a  la  pricre 
et  k  la  potfnit: : 

*  Kalriidn>  chante  plus  en  capfo 
ii\if\  iw.  fcroit  au  vert  bosca;rc  ; 
Au-i-'i  sert  nlus  Dieu  et  honoiire 
Cil  <iiii  on  la  cai^e  demount'  " 

Itinermrv  drgcriptif  et  hUior'njne  du  roff' 
lujeur  (itiHSt  Ic  Mont  SaiHt-Michei,  par 

Kd.  F^e  1  It-richer.  Avr:inches,s.  d.,p.41. 

This  V'T-'o  I  venture  to  render — 

*•  Luuder  in  oajje  the  birdicN  lay 
Than  in  the  forest  jjrcon  and  f;ay, 
.Vntl  fo  more  prai?<u  to  (JimI  h*?  j^ives 
\V'ho  in  the  ca<j:*Kl  cloisti-r  live.-*." 

One  swallow  doos  not  make  a  .summer;  but  the 
paswajre  <jnotod  from  this  MS.  poem  makes  me 
desirous  «»f  knowing  something  mtae  about  it. 
Will  somo  correspondent  let  us  know  if  it  still 
r'?maiu3  uii})ubIiHhed,  its  author  and  extent,  and 
if  the  remainder  is  "equal  to  sample"?  If  so, 
like  ( )liv»  r  Twist,  I  would  venture  to  nsk  for  more. 

Rusholme.  AV.  E.  A.  A. 

Pontiff. — (.'an  you  give  me  the  derivation  of 
the  word  "  P'^nlill',"  and  inform  me  how  it  came 
to  be  used  in  the  sense  which  it  now  has  ? 

C  LEU  1  c  u  s  Rustic  us. 

[Thr«v'  d<:ri vat  inns  of  this  word  are  given.  Q.  Sr4U- 
vola,  hiinst'If  ])ontJfex  maximus  derived  it  from  /)»kmt 
and  facr.rf.  Yarn)  says,  *•  PotUijicex^  ep:u  a  jumte  arbitror, 
nam  ab  iis  "ublicius  es«t  faotus  primiini,  et  restitutus  i«;epe, 
cum  idco  .<<ncra  et  uls  et  cis  Tiberim  noii  mediocri  ritu 
tiant.''  *•  (iiittling  thinlcs  that  jmniifex  is  only  an^ither 
form  fur  jHrnipifex,  which  woulfl  charaotcrise  the  pontifli 

onlv  as  tin-  iiian.-iKcr."!  and  conductors  of  public  proccs-     u  t.  x,   ^  *.•  ~  r    -u        *    n?   •   • 

sions  and  h^-hmnitics.  Dut  it  sccnis  far  m.»re  probable  that  tabulatio,  qua;  fonbus  et  ofhemia  rerum  v 
the  word  i<  furrncd  from  pons  an.l  fnctre  (in  the  sij^'nili-  prieteuditur,  &c.,  Anglice,  a  jteuthouBe^  O' 
cation  of  the  (irerk  ^'ffe**',  ti»  |)crfr»r!n  a  sarritice),  and 
that  c(»n.*e<HKntly  it  jsii^nilles  the  priest^  who  offered  sacri- 
fices upon  the  liridixc"  (Sec  Smith's  D'ntinnury  of  Grfek 
and  Roman  Antiquities.)  The  colle/io  of  pontitfs  waA  insti- 
tuted by  Nuina,  and,  iucludini;  the  {vontifex  maxinuis,  at 
lirst  con>i-!vd  ol"  live  momborsi,  buing  firadually  increased 
lo  nine,  tit^M  ii,  and  finally  sixteen.  The  college  hail  the 
supreme  .•«u])crintendence  (»f  all  matters  of  religion,  and 
«'ontinu'.-d  t » .'xi^t  until  the  overthrow  of  Paganism.  To 
the  empcn  r^  lu-lon^cd  the  rip:ht  of  appomtini^;  meml)er8 
of  the  roIicjL,'".  and  also  the  otlicc  of  chief  pontitl — P.RL 
or  PON'.M.  \v  ill  be  found  on  several  of  tht-ir  c"<»in8.  From 
tlie  time  of  TliCijdosiua  the  emperors  no  lon;;er  appoar  as 
IwntiflTs.  but  iVoin  the  nature  ami  disunity  of  the  office  it 
i*%\\  he  well  understood  why  the  title  ha«»  been  assumed 
by  the  lii^hop  of  Rome.1 

QuiNTA  OF  MoNTSERR\T. — This  villa,  situated 
in  the  suburbs  of  Ijisbon,  is  stated  in  Miss  Baillie*s 
Letters  (published  before  1840,  date  of  extract 
quoted)  to  have  been  erected  by  the  well-known 
fieckford,   who  also  built   Fonthill  Abbev.    Is 


''  The  Eetbospective  Review." — I  should  be 
very  glad  to  be  informed  to  what  writer  may  be 
attnbuted  the  first  article  in  The  Hetro^feciive 
Review^  voL  i.  part  2,  published  in  1824  on  Cam- 
den's BritoHHica  tmd  County  History  in  general. 

John  Gouoh  Nichols. 

Scotch  Rotalists.  —  Where  shall  I  find  a  liat 

of  Scotch  landowners  who  were  fined  or  had  their 

estates  confiscated  for  royalism  similar  to  Drinj^'a 

Catalogue  of  ComponntUrs  and  the   confiscation 

acts  to  be  seen  in  Scobell's  Ads  and  Ordinancesf 

The  Royalist  Composition  Papers  in  Her  Ma- 

'  jestv^s  Record  Ottice  only  relate  to  England  and 

Wales.  '  CoRwrB. 

I 
I      ScuTARius. — In  a  charter  by  Robert,  abbot  of 

the  monastery  of  Paislev,  and  his  convent,  of  date 

Febniarv  ">, 'l.y);i-4,  tliey  granted  "proodilecto 

familiari  antfario  nostro  An  dree  Ros,  alias  Plavn- 

tor/'  a  particular  tenement  lying  in  the  then 

newly  erected  burprh  t»f  Pai^lev.     And  my  desire 

is  now  that  some  contributor  to  ^*  N.  &Q.   would 

kindly  explain  what  the  i^^rufaritM  of  a  monasteiy 

is ;  or,  in  other  words,  what  duties  pertained  to 

that  0  111  CO. 

We  are  aware,  from  Ducange  (vore  "  Scuta  "  et 

infrn),  that  the  term  lias  been  variously  gloeeed, 

as  Stipt>ndnriu.4,  Armi<rer,  Spatharius,  and  also  as 

Scutorum  artifex.    Rut  we  heiiitate  to  think  that 

any  of  these  is  applicable  to  the  ofiicer  of  a 

monasit-n/ :  and  accordin^'ly  incline  to  pass  down, 

in    Ducango,  to  other  interpretations;   to  those 

under  **  Scutum,"  whic1\  Is  said  to  bo  a  '*  tabella 

in  formam  Scuti  confecta"' — al8i> "inter  ministeria 

sacra   reponitur,''   also  a  '^vas,  quod  lychnis  in 

eoclesiis   pendentibus    substernitur ;  '*   and   as   a 

enalium 

otherwise 

shades,  booths,  &c.  constructed  of  boards.     This 

last  gloss  is  one  of  Spelman's  (Gloss.  "Scutum"); 

but  to  which  Ducange  adds  this  pregnant  doubt: 

"  Sed  vide  an  per  Scuta  intelligat  (i.  r.  Hoveden) 

sif/na.  qua>  ol?icinis  apponuntur.  nostris  (i.  e.  by 

the  French)   Kxskigxf;'?,"   or   Anglic^,  fiffHS  or 

siffn-boardK,     In  connection  w'ith  these  various 

glosses,  it  may  be  only  well  to  consider  the  ^  alias 

PajTitor  "  of  the  charter ;  and  whether  that  term 

is  other  than  an  old  form  of  Pntt-erf  the  artifex 

of  pents,  shades,  screens,  porches,  booths,  signs^ 

signboards,  &c.,  hung  out  or  placed  before  houses, 

their  windows  and  doors,  and  particularly  those 

in  or  in  front  of  which  merchandise  was  exposed 

for  sale.  Espedabb. 


*'  Sold,'*  as  used  by  Joxson. — In  tho  anagram- 
matic  proem  or  argument  prefixed  to  JoQ8on*s 
Volpone,  the  last  line  is,^ 

there  any  description  of  it  in   its  original  con-  **  ^'-^^^  tempts  the  other  agata,  and  all  are  ao/rf." 

ditioB  F   Miss  Bmlie  describes  it  as  "  completely  I  Does  not  the  word  "  sold  '*  appear  to  be  used  Iiere 
I  rain,  *'  SV  .P.*  ^.  m  xW  mo^^roL  cf»^  wui^  «l  XftSmv  ut^  or  broogbfe 


4«>  S.  IX.  June  1,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


447 


to  grief?  It  certainly  is  not  applicable  in  its 
legitimate  meaning  to  the  fate  of  either  of  the 
characters ;  and  if  my  surmise  be  right,  is  there 
any  other  instance  of  like  age,  where  the  word  is 
so  used  P  Johnson's  Dictionary  does  not  fpy^  this 
sense.  W.  P.P.  , 

Stell.  —  A  small  running  stream  is  somedmes 
called  a  '^  stell "  in  the  norm  of  England.  Unde 
derivatur  f  N. 

Sugar  and  Watbb  Day. — ^It  was  the  custom 
on  Ascension  Day  some  years  ago  in  the  town  of 
Cowbridge,  Glamorganshire,  for  children  to  form 
parties  to  take  sugar  and  water  at  one  of  the 
neighbouring  wells,  the  Bowmen's  Well  bein^  aa 
especial  favourite.  Each  child  went  provided 
with  sugar  and  a  cup.  The  day  was  usually 
designated  '^  Sugar-ana- Water  Day."  Is  the  cus- 
tom prevalent  elsewhere,  and  whence  its  origin  P 

R&M. 

SwBDENBORG. — Can  any  reader  of  Swedenborg 
inform  me  where  in  his  voluminous  wiitiogs 
occur  the  aphorisms  quoted,  amongst  others,  1aj 
Emerson  {Representative  Men) — ''The  more  angels, 
the  more  room/'  and  ''Ends  always  ascena  -as 
nature  descends  "  ?  I  have  searched  the  indexes 
to  many  of  his  works,  includixig  the  Arcana  CmU^" 
tia,  without  avail.  fjLMxa  T.  Pbeslst. 

Chelteoham  Library. 

Taperell. — In  this  district  of  the  South  Hams 

they  say  of  the  cuckoo  — 

''  In  the  month  of  April  # 

He  siogetb  taperelL** 

The  word  means  feeble.  Whence  is  it  derived  P 

A.  MrDBLBioir. 

Kingsbridge  Grammar  School,  S.  Devon. 

Tfior. — What  is  the  derivation  of  Troy  aa  the 
name  of  a  class  of  weights^  and  how  came  the 
class  to  be  used  in  Engluid  if  the  name  is  derived 
from  the  city  Troyes  P  It  is  suggested  that  these 
weights  were  introduced  by  Henry  V.  after  the 
Treaty  of  Troyes  as  an  attempt  to  assimilate  the 
weights  of  the  two  countries  which  were  thence- 
forth to  be  under  one  sovereign.  Gold,  silver, 
and  precious  stones  continue  to  be  bought  and 
sold  D^  troy  weight.  The  apothecary  compounds 
medicmes  by  the  troy  ounce  differently  subdi- 
vided, but  he  buys  by  avoirdupois  weight.  It 
may  be  in  the  memory  of  some  peisops,  as  it  is 
certidnly  on  record,  that  one  of  tne  grievances  of 
the  mutineers  of  the  fleet  at  Spithead  was  tiiat 
their  provisions  were  served  to  them  short  weight 
by  two  ounces  in  the  pound.  Now  though  the 
pound  troy  is  subdivided  into  twelve  oonces^  and 
the  pound  avoirdupois  into  sixteen  oaneeSi  the 
ounce  troy  is  so  much  larger  than  the  onnoe  avoir* 
dupois,  that  fourteen  ounces  avoizdupds  aze  eqnal 
to  one  pound  troy.  Thus  proviidoasto  tli»B(^jal 
Navy  were  virtually  isaoea  Vy  titio  pound  tnj, 


and  the  one-seventh  by  wliich  the  pound  avoir- 
dupois exceeded  the  pound  troy  may  represent 
the  allowed  difference  between  wholesale  ttod 
retail  dealings ;  and  this  manner  of  purchase  and 
issue  of  provisions  may  countenance  the  notion 
that  here  we  have  the  last  remaining  relic  of  aa 
attempt  by  royal  authority  to  assimuate  weights 
and  measures.  The  pound  avoirdupois  was  not 
legalized  till  the  reign  of  Henry  VII. 

G.  M.  R  0. 

[In  Knight's  JSngliih  CyelogMdia  it  is  sUted  that 
neither  thei  etymology  nor  the  time  of  introductioa  of 
Troy  weight  is  knoirn,  and  that  as  the  weights  of  other 
large  towns,  as  the  poond  of  Cologne  and  of  Tonlonse^ 
have  become  standards,  to  in  all  probability  the  weight 
in  question  took  its  name  from  be^  used  at  tiie  fair  of 
Troyes.  That  there  was  a  very  old  English  standard 
pound  of  twelve  onnoes,  and  that  this  pound  existed  lonf 
before  the  name  Troy  was  given  to  it,  are  »it*MifH5 
fkcts.  Though  the  Trqy  poond  was  mentioned  as  aknown 
weight  in  2  Henry  Y.  ea|i.  4  (1414>and  2  Heniy  YL 
eap.  13  (1428),  the  term  Troy  was  not  applied  to  ths  ^pd 
standard  poond  till  12  Henry  YIL  (1495).  T^  we%ht 
had  precise^  the  same  limitatuMia  of  ose  in  tiie  tima  oC 
Fleta,  snp^Med  to  have  lived  in  the  reign  of  Edward  L» 
as  now — ^viz.  for  wekridng  predoos  mctus  and  stones  sad 
apothecaries'  droga.  It  was  originally  the  poond  of  ahrsc» 
the  poond  steriing ,  and  waa  sometimee  described  as  di- 
vided into  twenty  parts  called  shillings.  The  faauras 
statute  of  Henry  ill.  (1266)  makes  a  standard  for  itftmo 
the  weight  of  ears  of  wheat.] 

W^iXLnroBBS.— Mr.  Earle,  in  his  PhUoim  nf 
Ms  SnMk  Timgw  (Oxford  Clarendon  l^em, 
1871,  iSmo),  gives  the  following: — 

**  With  these  must  be  dsased  the  words  in  -inger,  ss 
harbinger*  poningcr«  pottlnger,  wliarfingtr.  Abo  waH' 
moir,  a  term  that  is  or  wom  U>  be  smm  om'  tils  walU  cf 
vketter^  in  a  tablet  oommsmorathre  of  repairs  done  to  ths 
city  walL  The  wallingers  were  annual  offioers  charged 
with  the  care  of  the  wslU." 

I  would  compare  ol  r^xnm^  at  Athens.  In  the 
ahove  the  italics  (except  in  the  case  of  the  word 
walimger)  are  mine.  Will  some  one  ascertain  for 
me  whether  the  tahlet  still  stands,  where  it  is^ 
and  in  what  condition  it  is  at  present  P  I  shonld 
idso  like  to  hear  of  any  other  ohsdete  words  of  % 
like  termination^  and  also  some  infonnatuMi  ooo^ 
oeming  these  woBmfiers,  of  their  function^  poil- 
tionsi  and'equiralents  in  other  towns  or  coantfeiMi 
The  word  is  not  in  HalliweU^  fifdi  edition. 

£[.  S«  SjLUPmiE*  - 

Tivdl  Cottage^  Cheltenham. 

WrmiPOLLxvnTHncisxov  Faxxubi.— Hune 
become  possessed  of  two  deeds  of  espedil  intemt 
to  Ipswiiui  and  its  ndifl^bouriiood:  The  first  is 
an  uidentare  for  the  sue  of  piropertf  at  Thwde- 
stosy  Siiflblki  dated  108O|  and  Itavmg  the  e»- 
trsmely  nan  aniognmh  signiitoxe  of  SS  Wnfiaoi 
'WlthisoU  of  Ijpswicny  Ent,  as  well  as  those  ct- 
Sir  Biohaid  Brooke  of  Maeton.  Knt ;  Sd  Jmm 
Jeimy  aiJmmUl^  Xht ;  «id  SirOhaiiss  Ls  Gm 
id  Grasfewiob, Knt— «D  parties inteiwted  tetibe 
jtoftttg.  . Tto  wmrnA  b*  ted  giaalingMiEMa 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4(^8.  IX.  Jussi«'7». 


messuages  in  Ipswich  (formerly  the  property  of 
Sir  Ilarbottle  Grimstou,  Bart), 'to  Thomas  Edgar 
and  Marv  his  wife,  hy  Sir  William  Thekeston  of 
Flixton,  *Knt.  This  is  dated  1044,  and  has  Sir 
\V.  Thekeston's  pignature  in  line  condition.  •  Sir 
W- illiam  AVithipoU  (or  WTiitypole)  was  connected 
with  Christ  Church  Priory,  Ipswich.  Sir  William 
Thekeston'a  history  was  closely  embodied  with  the 
account  of  Flixton,  Suflblk. 

Who  arc  the  descendants  of  these  two  families  ? 

C.  GOLDISU. 
Faddington.      

ISleplCrir* 

MR.  RETT  OF  TRINITY,  OXFORD. 

(4»»»  S.  ix.  871).) 

In  Mr.  Bates's  note  on  "  Dr.  James  Uri/*  I 
ob8er\e  a  notice  of  Mr.  Kett  of  Trinity  College, 
who  is  once  in  the  same  note  (accidentally  I  sup- 
pose) called  Dr.  Kett.    But  the  story  of  Mr.  Kett 
IS  not  suthcieutly  told.    If  he  is  to  be  mentioned 
at  all,  whether  as  "  this  Kett,"  or,  as  I  should 
prefer,  with  prreater  civility,  the  chief  facts  of  his 
literary  life  should  not  be  omitted.     He  had  the 
misfortune  to  fall  into  the  hands  of  two  critics, 
Dr.   (yoploston,    afterwards   Bishop    of  Llandaff, 
and  Mr.  Davison,  Fellow  of  Oriel— two  men  who 
contributed  more  than  any  others  of  their  day  to 
raise  the  character  of  the  college  to  the  eminence 
which  I  should  be  sorry  to  think  it  was  likely  to 
lose.     They  were  irameasurablv  his  superiors  in 
capacity  and  learning.     But,  like  other  people 
since,  not  suspecting  his  danger,  he  ventured  to 
write  books.     One  was  called  Logic  made  Easy. 
I  believe  I  am  giving  the  title  correctly,  but  I 
have  not  a  reference  at  hand.     Upon  this,  Cople- 
stone    wrote    The  Examiner  examined,    a   most 
amusing  criticism,  but  fatally  damaging  to  Kett*s 
easy  treatise.     Kett  was  supposed  to  have  a  face 
which,  from  its  length,  reminded  those  who  saw 
him  of  a  horse.     This  supposed  likeness  gave  him 
the  name  of  Horse  Kett.     He  took  the  joke  with 
very  good  humour,  and  used  to  say  of  himself 
that   he   was  going  to  trot  down  High  Street. 
Copleston  put  on  his  title-page  "  Equo  ne  credite 
Teucri." 

But  Kett*s  most  serious  bad  fortune  was  his 
book  called  Ekmcnts  of  (renerafKnoicJedtje,  Davi- 
son published  an  answer  to  it  in  two  parts.  The 
second  part  is  in  the  British  Museum :  — 

"  Some  Account  of  a  recent  Work,  entitled  *  PHemeDts 
of  General  Kuowled^'e,'  bein^  Part  tho  Second,  by  J. 
Davison,  M.A.    Oxford :  at  tho  Universit}-  Pre38, 1804." 

The  first  part  is  not  there,  at  least  I  have  not 

been  able  to  lind  it ;  and,  I  believe,  there  is  a 

^ood  reason  for  its  absence.     I  have  always  heard 

the  tradition  that  Davidson  found  himself  to  have 


Accordingly,  he  bought  in  all  copito  accessible  to 
him.  Many  years  ago  I  read  a  copy  which  had 
been  beyond  his  reach.  I  do  not  wonder  at  his- 
wishing  to  withdraw  it,  considering  the  kindly 
benevolent  disposition  which  is  always  attributed 
•to  him.  In  the  second  part  he  speaks  with  almost 
an  apologetic  tone  of  the  iirst ;  not  retracting  any 
part  of  the  matter,  but  making  some  excuse  for 
the  manner. 

I  was,  within  the  last  few  weeks,  in  company 
with  a  gentleman,  now  far  advanced  in  yearsy  one 
of  the  few  survivors  who  can  speak  with  per- 
sonal knowledge  of  the  men  of  that  day.    I  a;U£ed 
him  if  ho  could  tell  me  whether  it  was  so,  that 
Davison  had  suppressed  part  the  first    He  said 
he  did  not  know ;  but,  he  added,  Kett  put  all  his 
corrections  into  the  next  edition  of  the  jElemenig, 
Mr.  Kett  was  for  some  time  at  Elsefield,  near 
Oxford,  whether  as  curate  or  incumbent  I  do  not 
know,  and  left  behind  him  marks  of  his  care  in 
the  parish  registers.     I  saw  them  several  years 
ago.     Thev  were  most  carefully  bound  by  him. 
I  have  had  occasion  to  search  many  of  these  regis- 
ters in  diflferent  parts  of   England.    They  are 
usually  in  a  dilapidated  condition,  and  often  oat 
of  legial  custody,  so  as  to  make  their  value  as 
evidence  extremely  doubtful.    I  do  not  recollect 
at  this  moment  anv  other  instance  of  such  care 
as  that  bestowed  on  lElsefield  registers  by  Mr.  Kett 
It  is  certain  that  Kett  was  drowned  at  Charlton 
Kings,  near  Cheltenham.    Mr.  Bates  does  not 
givQithe  year,  and  I  am  not  able  now  to  supply 
the  omission.     I  presume  that  Mb.  Bates  nas 
authority  for  making  the  extremely  serious  state- 
ment that  Kett  committed  suicide.    If  he  has, 
it  would  be  right  to  produce  it  D.  P. 

Stuarts  Lodge,  Malvern  Wells.     ' 

[There  is  an  excellent  notice  of  the  Rev.  Ilenrj  Kett 
ia  the  Gent.  Mag.  August  18*25,  p.  184,  where  it  is  stated 
that  at  SUnwell  on  June  30,  1825,  **  about  noon,  the 
weather  bein|;  hot,  he  proceeded  to  take  a  cold  bath,  when 
it  is  supposed,  that,  venturing  out  of  hia  depth,  h« 
seized  with  cramp,  and  sank  to  rise  no  more."— Ed.] 


"  AS  STRAIGHT  AS  A  DIE." 
(4"»  S.  ix.  119, 185,  249,  345.) 

Mr.  CnjLTTOCK  insists  that  the  phrase  ought  to 
be  "  level  as  a  die,*'  because  he  has  only  heard  it 
in  this  form;  but  surely  those  who  nave  not 
only  heard  but  used  the  expression  "  'Straight 
as  a  die  "  have  a  right  to  consider  it  in  this  fomiy 
even  though  they  may  not  hit  upon  the  true 
origin.  I  am  inclined  to  agree  with  W.(l.)  that, 
after  all,  the  original ''  die  "  was  the  singular  of 
"  dice  ";  but  I  do  not  agree  with  him  uiat  the 
word  ''straight"  applies  to  the  accurate  con- 


struction or  squareness  of  the  cube,  but  now  think 
written  the  Grst  part  with  so  much  keennefia  oi  \  \t  va\^v»&  \a\^<^  o^ii^^kcAsa  and  immediate  reralt 
icule  as  to  make  him  wish  to  withdraw  it.\  oilSDL^c»ft\!\si^olVaft^^^£kfe:'    WS^v^^^^^^jBOBMia 


4««»  S.  IX,  JoNK  1,  '72.] 


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449 


to  be  much  older,  and  of  more  general  use,  than 
even  mj  first  attempt  to  explain  its  meaning  sug- 
gested. Certainly  it  does  not  ap|>ear  to  have 
been  confined  to  the  localities  in  which  stampinff 
with  a  die  could  alone  be  commonly  known,  and 
Mr.  Chattock*8  application  of  the  term  "  die  "  to 
a  coin  or  medal  is  a  little  too  far-fetched. 

**  Straight "  is  used  by  old  English  writers  in 
the  same  sense  as  we  now  use  "  quickly  "  or  ''  at 
once.''  Shakspeare  uses  it  very  frequently  in  this 
sense,  and  there  can  be  no  doubt  it  was  commonly 
so  used  in  the  Elizabethan  period,  as  the  litera- 
ture of  the  time  shows.  A  few  quotations  from 
the  great  dramatist  will  be  sumcient  to  show 
this :  — 

*•  Wrench  it  open  •traight:' —Pericles^  Act  III.  Sc.  1. 
**  Yoa  straight  are  on   your  knees." — Richard  IIl^ 

Act  II.  Sc.  1. 
**  Straight  to  horse !  "—Henry  V^  Act  IV.  Sc.  2. 

"  That  carries  an^^r  as  the  flint  bears  fire ; 
Who,  much  enforced,  shows  a  hasty  spark. 
And  straight  is  cold  again." 

Julius  Casar,  Act'IV.  Sc.  8. 

I  have  noted  many  others,  but  these  will  be 
sufficient. 

At  a  much  later  period,  Addison  uses ''  straight" 

in  the  same  sense :  — 

"  I  know  thy  generous  temper  well : 
Fling  but  the  appearance  of  dishonour  on  it. 
It  straight  takes  fire,  and  moants  into  a  blaze." 

Possibly  Mr.  Chattock  may  complain  that  iiy 
literary  definition  annihilates  my  mechanical  one. 
Be  it  so ;  I  want  to  get  the  trub  one. 

Geobge  Wallis. 

South  Kensington  Moseom. 


The  original  words  are,  I  think,  ''  As  true  as  a 
die,"  I.  e.  as  exact  as  the  impression  is  to  the 
matrix.  By  an  easy,  but  illogical  process,  came 
*'  as  straight  as  a  die,"  or ''  as  level  as  a  die " : 
meaning,  as  true  in  straightness  or  levelness  as 
the  impression  is  to  the  matrix. 

E.  L.  Bleitzinsopp. 


GENIUS, "  A  CAPACITY  FOR  TAKING  TROUBLE." 

(4»»»  S.  ix.  280,  374,  393.) 

We  have  great  reason  to  complain  of  Mr.  Sala 
and  Mr.  Pig  got,  and  Tristim  must  be  v^tj  much 
dissatisfied  at  the  manner  in  which  the  replies  have 
been  laid  before  him.  In  a  voluminous  writer  likt 
Bufibn,  it  is  no  joke  to  have  to  hunt  for  a  sentence 
of  eight  words,  "  Le  g^nie  est  une  grande  puis- 
sance d*attention.''  We  must  now  ask  some  cor- 
rect reader  to  furnish  the  exact  references.  Mr. 
Sala  has  not  even  got  the  words  of  Buffon,  for 
Littr^  quotes  them  from  Buffon's  Disc,  de  Ricep^ 
tion  d  fAcad,,  '<  Le  g^nie  n^est  autre  chose  qu'une 
grande  aptitude  A  la  patience."  Puissance  dot- 
tention  bperh&pa  scarceljr  French,    Factdti  would 


probably  be  the  word.  But  whether  French  or 
not  matters  little,  as  Buffbn  never  wrote  it  I 
have  read  somewhere  that  Newton,  when  asked 
what  constituted  the  ^at  difference  between  him- 
self and  other  men,  said  he  did  not  know  unless  it 
was  that  he  had  more  patience.  As  Bufibn  wa» 
only  twenty  when  Newton  died,  Newton  is  pro- 
bably the  originator  of  the  idea,  and  Bufifon  nad 
heard  it  Some  reader  of  '<  N.  &  Q.''  will  perha]^ 
kindly  give  the  reference  and  authority  for  thia 
saying  of  Newton;  also  of  Coleridge's  definition 
of  genius  as  consisting  in  the  carrying  on  into  the 
matured  years  of  manhood  the  freshness*  of  the 
faculties  of  youth.  Properly  speaking,  all  these 
sayings  are  rather  remarks  noting  some  of  the  signs 
of  genius  than  definitions  of  genius.  Coleridge 
was  always  trying  his  hand  at  a  definition  of 
genius.  He  says  (Webster's  Diet,),  **  Genius  of 
the  highest  kind  implies  an  unusual  intensity  of 
the  modifying  power."  Blair  says  (vol.  L  feet 
3),  '*  Genius  always  imports  something  inventive 
or  creative."  Iieldin^  (lUchardson's  Diet,)  in  his 
Hist,  of  a  Foundling,  ix.  c.  1,  makes  it  out  to  be 
''  those  powers  of  the  mind  which  are  capable  of 
penetrating  into  all  things  within  our  reach  and 
knowledge,  and  of  distinguishing  their  essential 
differences."  I  should  be  glad  if  "  N.  &  Q." 
would  open  its  pages  to  receive  all  the  pithy 
things  that  have  been  said  about  this  little  under- 
stood thinj^,  so  that  we  might  learn  if  out  of  all  the 
wit  anything  like  a  definition  could  be  elicited. 

The  word  genius  is  derived  from  ffignere^  "  to 
beget  and  bring  forth."  It  represents  in  Latin 
the  divine  nature  innate  in  everything:  ''Dice- 
batur  a  priscis  Deus  naturae,  qui  omnium  rerum 
g^gnendarum  vim  haberet"  (Hermannus  Torren- 
tinus.)  The  man  of  genius  then,  if  man  be  made 
**  in  the  image  of  his  Maker,"  is  in  respect  of  that 
genius — that  li^ht  and  lamp  of  serenest  reason  fed 
by  the  inner  spirit — of  nil  men  the  most  creative, 
and  most  of  all  men  like  to  his  Creator.  *'  An 
honest  man  the  noblest  work  of  God."  Not  so, 
friend  Pope!  The  grandest,  best,  most  seraphic 
aAd  musical  spirit  is  that  which  is  most  instinct 
with  the  influx  of  divine  gifts,  and  that  is  *'  the 
noblest  work  of  God."  Genius  is  the  fabric  of 
highest  artificership,  whereon  the  Holy  Spirit 
has  wrought  most  deftly ;  of  all  his  labour  aone 
in  this  strange  miracle,  our  world,  the  begettiDg 
growth  and  outcome  of  eenius  is  the  cunmngest 
This  highest  type  of  manhood's  excellence  is  like 
the  dayspring  in  summer,  a  direct  revelation  to 
make  all  wise  men  thankful.  King's  Lexicon  makes 
subtle  scholars  and  the  small  snakes  of  the  earth 
eat  dust  and  hiss  at  the  advent  of  a  Milton  or  a 
Byron,  and,  under  guise  of  propriety  and  a  love  of 
the  correct  virtues,  slake  the  hot  stin^  of  tJi^^ASL 
envy  in  the  few  {«Ni\A\?^«^  ^V-vsa.^^'OJ^* 

I     Ma^fair. 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«»»S.1X.  Ju3tKl,72. 


THE  AN'CESTUY  OK  GEORGE  WASHINGTON. 
(4»»'  S.  ix.  140,  24S,  ;50->,  :L>."i.) 

It  is  with  sincorft  regret  thnt  I  liii J  *•  X.  &  Q/* 
made  the  incaiifl  of  roproduciiiu'"  and  cmitinuinj;  a 
popular  error.  Your  correspondont  J.  li.  15.  quotes 
Mr.  Simpliin»on*8  book,  T/ic  Wni^hinijtnnA^  in  evi- 
dent ignorance  that  this  pedigree  bad  l)een  proved 


after  l)eing  a  matter  of  informal  goj«ip  for  yeais, 
in  a  paper  published  in  Thf  American  Jlistorical 
Ittcord,  Tol.  i.  Xo.  4,  for  April,  1872.  It  now 
seems  that  Samuel  F.  U.  Morse,  the  distinguished 
originator  of  the  electric  telegraph,*  who  died  a 
wei»k  affo,  owned  a  portrait  said  to  be  that  of 
Mary  lUll,  the  wife  of  Augustine  Washington, 
and  mother  of  G  eor^re.    This  portrait  was  formerlj 

~  seTeral 

who  in 


tells  the 

Hfirald  ami  Oemaioyisi  (iv^  4(M).J)  that  he  cer-  "  way   in   which   he   obtained   the  painting.     Mr. 

j  Field  wa:*  bf»rn  about  177o,  and  when  a  boy  was 
■  afouainted  with  a  Mrs.  Morer  of  Cookham,  who 
I  had  this  portrait  of  Mrs.  Washington  "and  other 


tainly  was  tt(tt  the  stm  of  Laurence  AVashington 
of  Sul^jrave  and  Mariraret  T^utl^r.  I  will  not 
waste  Uiue  on  a  discussion  of  this  point,  becau?*j 
J.  li.  IJ.  will  doubtless  agree  with  luv,  after  u 
perusal  of  (.!ol.  Che.st»?r'>  admirable  essay,  that  the 
fact  i."*  proved.  Th«'  beL'inning  of  the  mistake  was 
und')ubledly  with  Sir  Ii^aac  Heard,  nnd  it  was 
coutinui'd  by  1  laker.  After  a  number  of  years  tlie 
pedi;rr».'e  was  consid»Ted  to  be  proved,  and  was 
extensively  c-ipied  liere  in  America  as  well  as  in 
Kn^'land.  Two  ♦.»labi)rat'?  tabular  pediprri-es  with 
blazon  of  anns  were  ])rinted  hen?  !it  diflereut 
times,  and  finally  nn  oilieinl  sancti^m  wa«  given  to 
the  storv  bv  the  act  of  the  State  of  M;isiijichu.*ietts 
in  l^f<»l.  At  that  time  tho  Hon.  Charles  Sumner, 
a  gentleman  whoso  LTt-ateat  leamin;;  is  not  in  the 


relics  of  the  family  given  to  her  when  they 
(quitted  the  place  for  America,  to  which  country 
her  aunt  or  mother  took  the  child,  G.  W.,  in  her 
arm.-*."'  When  -NFrs.  Morer  died  about  1812,  Mr. 
Field  .^^ent  and  bouglit  the  portrait, 

Thu.s  far  the  tradition  has  very  few  links.  Mr. 
Field  cluiiijed  to  have  conversed  with  Mrs.  Morer, 
who  wa<*  personally  conversant  with  the  fact  that 
Augustine  Wa:5hington  was  living  in  England  in 
March,  1 7- JO,  wlien  he  married  Mary  Hull.  It  is  con- 
ceded that  the  BalU  were  Inn-jr  re^iident  in  Virgfinia. 
( Sue  I iish. 'p  >[eailr''s OldFitmilii  .<,  ii.  1 1>IJ. )  Col/Wil- 
liam  Hall  died  there  in  l(i01>,  leaving  sims  William 


direction  of  gHnealo;/y.  prt.'sented  to  the  State  fac-  '  and  Joseph.    Jo.*enli  was  the  father  of  Mary  Ball, 
similes  of  th«.' tombstones  of  Jiawreiiro  and  Uobert     and  also  of  .Tosi.-ph  lUll.  junr. :  but,  on  the  other 


Washin;:t'in,  wliich  copit's  had  bfun  iriven  him  by 
Karl  SpiMUM-r,  both  i:»  mi  lit- nu-n  suppt)sing  and  stat- 
ing tlie-H  Washingtoiis  to  be  the  f.tther  and  uncle 
t)f  the  VirL-inian  omiirrant.  Thf  State  accept«'d 
the  gift  with  much  lormality,  ordered  the  stones 
to  bn  ])hu'fMl  in  a  conspiouous  plac«\  and  published 
an  ♦dabi>rat»»  a''Count  of  th"   whoh»    transaction. 


hiuid,  thfre  weri*  Halls  resident  at  Cookham. 
Though  tfit*  baptismal  and  marriage  register  is  said 
to  be  lost,  the  recor.l  of  deaths  lias  the  burial  of 
.John  LVilI.  Mav  1*0,  1707,  and  Mary  HaU,  Oct.  3, 
17i>i». 


It  \*  also  established  that  Joseph  Ball,  junr., 
who  was  in  Virginia  lu  172J),  was  living  at  Strat- 
In  the  previi^us  year  Mr.  Simpkinsou,  rector  of  i  ford-by-How  in  1747  and  17.V).  His  daughter 
Hrini^'toii,  had  publi-^h^d  the  very  interesting  I  seeiu'*  to  have  married  a  \'irgiuian  in  17o0.  It  is 
volum»!  abovp  quoted,  showing  the  Iriendship  be-  ,  piissible  that  his  M^ter  went  with  him,  and  was 
tween  the  Wa^shinj-tons  there  and  the  Siwncers  j  inanii»d  ther»'  in  March,  17* lO.  It  see uia  certain 
of  Althoq).  Though  the  b.>ok  would  duubth'ss  that  (.ieor;;e  Washington  wjls  bom  Feb.  11, 1731-2, 
!ievt'r  have  been  written  but  fur  the  belief  of  the  i  and  was  baptised  April  o  following,  say  tiftv-two 
author  that  lie  was  d»'<4Ciibing  the  ancestors  of  days  later.  It  is  possible,  but  most  impro\)ahle, 
George  Washington,  it  is  not  rendered  worthless  \  that  he  was  born  in  Kngland  and  baptised  in  Vir- 
by  th»*  disc'ivery  of  that  error.  It  contains  a  great 
am«>unt  of  valuable  and  interestiu;;  matter  from 
original  docum»>nts.  and  it  was  a  fortunate  mistake 
which  le<l  to  it'*  c ompo-ition. 

"  N.  &  (^.,"  howf'ver.  must  maintain  the  truth 
^►f  history,  and  it  is  then.»toro  proper  to  put  on 
record  here  the  statement  that  the  pedigree  of 
George  Wasliington  has  been  traced  only  to  the 
emigrant  to  America;  the  parentnge  of  John 
Washington  is  still  entirely  unknown.  ' 

Another  question  connected  with  (Jeorge  Wa"«h-  I 
ington  is  that  of  his  birth-place.  In  **  X.  &  Q.''  ' 
(2»«*  S.  iv.  0,  30,  75,  2M:3)  the  opinion  is  expressed  i 

that  possibly  hn  wm  born  at  Cookham  in  Berk-  i      •  '^v^w  tet«v  is  used  stmolv  as  descriptiye  and  wHboai 
Mro.     I'his  theory  is  revived  and  forvTi\i\aX<iA,\  ^Tt\\i^\tt^o^>^*^^v\sA<»l'^^s^^ 


giuia;  b  it  his  baptism  here  seems  most  probahle. 

W.  H.  WniTMORE. 

I)on.«a,  r.S.A. 


ST.  AVrXXEL. 

(4'h  S.  ix.  221,  2S7.) 

II.  J.  H.,  in  his  remarks  under  this  title  in 
<<  X.  &  Q."  uf  March  10,  has  evidently  fallen  into 
an  error  in  reference  to  the  old  adage  respecting 
the  month  of  March,  which  is  as  prevueat  in 
Norfolk  as  in  Suffolk,  the  real  reading 


4«»»  S.  IX,  JoNE  1,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


449 


to  be  much  older,  and  of  more  ^neral  use,  than 
even  my  first  attempt  to  explain  its  meaning  sug- 
gested. Certainly  it  does  not  appear  to  have 
been  confined  to  the  localities  in  which  stamping 
with  a  die  could  alone  be  commonly  known,  and 
Mb.  Chattock's  application  of  the  term  "die  "  to 
a  coin  or  medal  is  a  little  too  far-fetched. 

*'  Straight "  is  used  by  old  English  writers  in 
the  same  sense  as  we  now  use  "  quickly  "  or  "  at 
once."  Shakspeare  uses  it  very  frequently  in  this 
sense,  and  there  can  be  no  doubt  it  was  commonly 
so  used  in  the  Elizabethan  period,  as  the  litera- 
ture of  the  time  shows.  A  few  quotations  from 
the  great  dramatist  will  be  sumdent  to  show 
this:  — 

**  Wrench  it  open  gtraightJ^^Periclet,  Act  III.  Sc  1. 
**  Ton  straight  are  on   your  kneee."— iiteAorcf  ///.» 

Act  II.  Sc.  1. 
«  Straight  to  horse!  "—fi«My  V^  Act  IV.  Sc  2. 

**  That  carries  anger  as  the  flint  hears  fire ; 
Who,  much  enforced,  shows  a  hasty  spark. 
And  straight  is  cold  again.*' 

Julius  Casar,  Act'IY.  Sc.  8. 

I  have  noted  many  others,  but  these  will  be 
sufficient. 

At  a  much  later  period,  Addison  uses ''  straight" 

in  the  same  sense :  — 

**  I  know  thy  generous  temper  well : 
Fling  bat  the  appearance  of  dishonour  on  it» 
It  straight  takes  fire,  and  mounts  into  a  blaze." 

Possibly  Mb.  Chattock  may  complain  that  Ay 
Uterary  definition  annihilates  my  mechamcal  one. 
Be  it  so ;  I  want  to  get  the  trub  one. 

GSOBGB  WALLIS. 
Soath  Kensington  Museum. 


The  original  words  are,  I  think,  *^Ab  true  as  a 
die,"  I.  e.  as  exact  as  the  impression  is  to  the 
matrix.  By  an  easy,  but  illogical  process,  came 
^  as  straight  as  a  die,"  or  **  as  level  as  a  die " : 
meaning,  as  true  in  straightness  or  leyelneaa  as 
the  impression  is  to  the  matrix. 

E.  L.  Buonmrsopp. 


GENIUS, «  A  CAPACITY  FOR  TAKING  TROUBLE." 

(4»»»  S.  ix.  280,  874,  808.) 

We  have  great  reason  to  complain  of  Mb.  Sala 
and  Mb.  Pig  got,  and  Tbistis  must  be  yer^  much 
dissatisfied  at  the  manner  in  which  the  repbes  have 
been  laid  before  him.  In  a  Toluminous  writer  likt 
Buffbn,  it  is  no  joke  to  have  to  hunt  for  a  jBentence 
of  eight  words,  '*  Le  g^nie  est  una  grande  puis- 
sance d*attention."  We  must  now  uk  some  oor- 
rect  reader  to  furnish  the  exact  references.  Mx. 
Sala  has  not  even  got  the  words  of  Buffing  for 
Liittr^  quotes  them  from  Buffon's  Due.  deSSeep" 
iion  a  fAcad,,  <'  Le  g^nie  n'est  autie  choae  qu'vne 
grande  aptitude  h  la  patience.''  ISdtmme$  tFtd' 
/eR<M)ii  is  perhaps  acaicely  French.   JFbeNtttf  would  i 


probably  be  the  word.  But  whether  French  or 
not  matters  little,  as  Buffon  never  wrote  it  I 
have  read  somewhere  that  Newton,  when  asked 
what  constituted  the  ^reat  difference  between  him<» 
self  and  other  men,  said  he  did  not  know  unless  it 
was  that  he  had  more  patience.  As  Buffon  wa» 
only  twenty  when  Newton  died,  Newton  is  pro- 
bably the  originator  of  the  idea,  and  Buffon  nad 
heard  it.  Some  reader  of  '<  N.  &  Q.''  will  perhaj^ 
kindly  give  the  reference  and  authority  for  thifr 
smng  of  Newt<m;  also  of  Coleridge's  definition 
of  genius  as  consisting  in  the  carrying  on  into  the 
matured  years  of  mimhood  the  freshness^of  the 
faculties  of  youth.  Properly  speaking,  all  these 
savings  are  rather  renuirks  noting  some  ai  the  signa 
of  genius  than  definitions  of  genius.  Ooleridge 
was  always  trying  his  hand  at  a  definition  of 
genius.  He  says  ([Webster's  i]*u!<.),  '^QemuBol 
the  highest  kind  implies  an  onttsual  intensity  of 
the  modifying  power."  Blair  says  (voL  L  lect> 
8),  <' (Genius  always  imports  somethim^  inyentiye 
or  creative."  fielding  (Bichardson's  JbicL)  in  his 
Hid.  cfa  FommdUngy  iz.  c  1^  makes  it  oat  to  be 
<<  those  powers  of  the  mind  which  are  capable  of 
penetrating  into  all  things  within  our  reach  and 


knowledge,  and  of  distinguishing  their  essential 
differences.^'  I  should  be  glad  if  ''N.  &.  Q." 
would  open  its  pages  to  receive  all  the  pi^y 
thinffs  that  have  been  said  about  this  little  nndai^ 
stood  thin^,  so  that  we  might  learn  if  ontof  all  the 
wit  anything  like  a  definition  could  be  elidted. 

The  word  ^nius  is  derived  from  gignar$^  ^  to 
beget  and  bnng  forth."  It  represents  in  Latia 
the  divine  nature  innate  in  everything:  '^Dioe- 
bator  k  prisois  Bens  natanSi  qui  omnium  rerum 
e^endarum  vim  haberet"  (Hermannus  Tonen- 
tinus.)  The  man  of  genius  then,  if  man  be  made 
''  in  tne  image  of  his  Jdaker,"  is  in  respect  of  that 

genius — ^that  li^ht  and  lamp  of  serenest  reason  fed 
y  the  inner  smrit — of  all  men  the  most  creative^ 
and  most  of  all  men  like  to  hia  Creator.  ''  An 
honest  man  the  noblest  work  of  God."  Not  ao. 
Mend  Pope  t  The  grandest  best,  most  seranhie 
afid  musiod  spirit  is  that  which  is  most  insanet 
"^th  the  influx  of  divine  gifts,  and  that  is  ^tiie 
noblest  work  of  God."  Genius  is  the  fabric  of 
highest  artificership,  whereon  the  Holy  Sdiiit 
has  wrought  most  cteftiy;  of  all  his  labonr  oone 
in  this  strange  mirade,  our  world,  the  *^  -*- 
growth  and  outoome  of  ffenius  is  the  oi 
This  highest  ty^  of  mannood's  excellence  is' 
the  dayspting  in  sommer.  a  direct  reyektion  to 
make  aU  wise  men  thsnkfoL  Seng's  X«ricofi  makes 
subtle  acholaxs  and  the  smaU  wSkm  of  the  eartii. 
eat  dost  and  hiss  at  the  advent  of  a  Milton  or  W 
Byrottf  and|  under  guise  of  proprie^  and  a  love  of 
the  comet  yiitnei^  slake  the  hot  sting  ^of  their 
envy  in  the  lew  fiMift«  th^  4pd  in  them. 

a  A.  w. 

X^jfldr* 


452 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


[4*  S.  IX.  Jon  1,  Tl 


IIaxs  Place  Hoax  (4*»»  S.  ix.  ;140.)— As  I  do 
not  lind  that  any  of  your  readers  have  replied  to 
the  extraordinary  statement  of  the  Ryicni  of 
MoRAR  that  the*  **  Hoax  at  the  Pavilion,  Sloane 
Street,  August  .31,  1812,"  "is  clearly  the  proto- 
type of  the  Bcmers  Street  hoax,  perpetrated  many 
years  afterwards  by  Theodore  Hook  and  General 
Iligginson,"  I  beg  leave  to  point  out  that  it  is 
impossible,  because  the  Bemers  Street  hoax  was 
concocted  three  vears  previously.  This  is  surely 
the  tirst  time  tiiat  Theodore  Hook's  originality 
has  been  called  in  question.  The  hoax  was  very 
heartless  and  caused  an  immense  deal  of  damage, 
but  it  would  hardly  have  been  so  successful  had 
it  been  a  mere  copy  of  a  former  '*  sell "  of  the 
aame  character.  The  best  account  of  the  Berners 
Street  hoax  is  to  be  found  in  the  article  on 
"Tbeodore  Hook"  by  Lockhart  ( Quarter h/  Re- 
view, vol.  Ixxii.  pp.  02-63.)     There  it  is  said— ^ 

•*  Fierce  were  Iho  growlinf^s  of  the  doctors  and  sur- 
geons, Hcurcs  of  whom  bad  been  cheated  of  valuable  hours. 
Attorneys,  teachers  of  all  kinds,  male  and  female,  hair- 
dresser^  tailors,  popular  preachers  and  parliamentary 
philanthropi.sts  had  been  victimized  in  person,  and  were 
in  their  various  notes  vociferous.  Hut  the  tangible  mate- 
rial damage  clone  was  no  joking  matter.  There  had  been 
an  awful  smashing  of  f;lass,  china,  har{)sicbords  and 
coach-pancls.  Many  a  horse  had  fallen  never  to  rise 
attain.  Ik'er-barrels  and  wine-barrels  had  been  over- 
turned and  i.'xhaa<)tcd  with  impunity  amitist  the  press  of 
countless  multitudes.  It  had  been  a'  fme  Held  day  for  the 
pickporkcta." 

Lockhart  does  not  mention  the  number  of  the 
house— it  was  54.  Henry  B.  Wiieatley. 

Bibliography:  0«ER-AMMERGAurAssioy  Plat 
(4»'»  S.  ix.  421.)— (1)  Account  of,  in  The  Times  of 
Sept.  25,  1800,  by  George  Grove. 

(2)  "The  Ammergau  Mystery,'*  in  Macmillim 
of  October,  1800,  by  "  A.  P.  S."  (the  present  Dean 
of  Westminster);  republished  in  hw  Essay^i  on 
Queftiwts  connected  with  Church  and  State,  p.  502. 

('J)  Chapter  on  the  subject  in  Art  Students  of 
Munich,  A,  P.  S. 

"  The  Passion  Play  in  Ober-Ammer^au."  Bv  Ludwi^j 
Clarus.    New  Edition.    Munich,  IbGO. 

A  similar  work,  but  shorter,  by  Devrient,  pub- 
lished at  Leipsic  in  1851.  The  songs  of  the  choruJ», 
with  the  general  programme  of  the  drama  and  a 
short  preface :  where  published  I  cannot  n^call. 
.    ,  Sam.  Shaw. 

Andover, 

Brito'.s  excellent  list  of  j^i^ces  dc  circonstance 
on  this  subject  ought  to  be  continued  and  com- 
pleted :  — 

"  The  Bavarian  Iliffhlands  and  the  Ober-Ammercau 
Passion  Play  of  1871."  By  W.  II.  \V.  P.  London: 
Printed  by  Chnrles  VV.  Roynell,  Little  Pulteney  Street, 
Haymarket,  1871.    8vo,  sewed,  52  pages. 

This  is  a  very  interesting,  reverent,  and  dis- 
criminadDpr  account  of  the  play  and  th©  adoia, 
preceded  hy  a  fresh  and  pleasant  sketcYi  ol  tii^ 


writer's  journey  from  Kempten  to  Ober-Am- 
menniu. 

Church  TimeSf  Sept.  15,  1871.  Five  columns 
of  the  paper.  A  *'  Special  Correspondent's  "  ac- 
count of  his  visit;  with  detailed  specification  of 
the  plav,  act  by  act  The  Guardian^  Daily  Aevs, 
and  otter  London  papers  also,  contained  reports 
of  their  own. 

The  Eastern  News  (P),  a  Hull  paper.  A  long 
and  minute  account  of  the  play,  written  by  a  lady, 
and  taken,  I  think,  from  the  performance  of  1800, 
appeared  in  three  or  four  consecutive  numben  of 
this  paper  in  the  summer  of  1871. 

A.  J.  MUHBT. 

Temple. 

Brito  may  be  glad  to  learn  that  the  first  news- 
paper accounts  of  the  Passion  Play  in  the  Bava- 
rian Highlands  appeared  in  The  Standard  in  May 
and  Juno  1870.  The  correspondence  was,  I  be- 
lieve, from  the  pen  of  Mr.  J.  0*Shea,  and,  though 
to  my  mind,  the  brightest  and  best  account  yet 
published,  has  not  yet  been  reprinted;  so  that 
perhaps  it  hardly  comes  under  the  heading  '^  Bib- 
liography." C.  W. 

Father  Arrowsmith's  IIaxd  (i^  S.  ix.  376, 
430)  is  preserved  in  a  silver  shrine  at  Ashton,^ 
near  Wigan,  and  is  still  remarkable  for  the  many 
cures  performed  by  it.        Wilfrid  of  Galway. 

A  Suicide  (4^  S.  ix.  320.)— The  man  who 

hated  life,  because  it  was  nothing  but  buttoning 

I  and  unbuttoning,  figures  as  a  Swiss  in  the  West- 

'  tniniUcr  Mayazinc,  1782,   p.  178: —''The  Swiss, 

who  shot  himself  because  he  was  tired  of  dresong 

and  undressing."  W.  G.  Stone. 

May  not  the  following  be  the  '^  foundation  of 

the  story,"  about  which  Uneda  inquires?  — 

^  Croaker.  Ah!  my  dear  friend,  these  were  the  very 
words  of  poor  Dick  Doleful  to  me  not  a  week  before  he 
made  away  with  himself.  ....  Ah !  he  grew  tick 
of  this  miserable  life,  where  we  do  nothing  but  eat  and 
grow  hungry,  dress  and  undress^  get  up  and  lie  down  ; 
while  reason,  that  should  watch  like  a  nurse  by  our  tide. 
falls  as  fast  asleep  as  we  do." — Goldsmith*B  GoodMatmrsd 
Man,  Act  I.  Sc.  1. 

Quotiitions^  get  strangely  changed  in  the  course 
of  use.  '  Clabbt. 

racHARD  Guy  (4»»»  S.  ix.  327.)— About  1740, 
Gent  printed  The  Famous  Old  Ballad  or  JSidory 
of  the  jbattles  of  Flodden  Field,  which  he  says  waa 
taken  from  an  ancient  MS.,  transcribed  by  Mr. 
Kichard  Guy,  late  schoolmaster  in  Ingleton,  Vork« 
shire.  This  person  was  most  probably  the  same 
Richard  Guy  who  was  bom  at  Gaile,  a  hamlet  at 


\ 


Ingleton,  who  died  in  1720,  having  borne  to  har 
Vi>]Aband  several  children,  all  baptised  at  IngliBloii. 
Ql^tlMv^  iXaNat^^^  ^^ds^.  ^^Qi^  NsnsDaRadhttc  of  the 


\ 


*'»3.IX.Jcr!(El,'7S.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


ao-called  ancient  raaauacript  waa  a  schoolmaatet 
at  Ingleton  ia  supported  by  tradition.  Some  old 
people  of  that  town  say  tnat  they  have  "  heard 
toll  on  a  skealmaater  afore  their  lime,  called 
Gut."  If  the  ballad  printed  by  Gent  be  identical 
■with  that  which  Lambe  and  Beuson  published  in 
1774,  the  Ticar  of  Norham  may  be  exonerated 
from  the  chon^  of  bein''  the  mauufacturer. 

K.  D. 
York. 

Dr.  LiasiTil  (4'"  S.  ix.  .",60.)— The  inventor  of 
the  " anti- scorbutic  drops"  was,  I  have  been  in- 
formed, a  surgeon  "before  the  Act,"  who  practised 
at  Manchester.  His  name  waa  Wood,  but  he 
changed  it  to  Lignum.     Hia  eon  was  a  reg-ular 

fractitioaer,  a  legitimale  surgeon,  and  apothecary, 
never  heard  that  the  elder  Lignum  was  "  a 
travelling  quack."  I  am  no  lover  of  patent  medi- 
cines, but  1  can  state  a  fact.  A  friend  (a  member 
of  the  legal  profession),  after  spending  "  a  mint 
of  money,"  and  consulting  Abameth;,  Sir  A. 
Cooper,  and  a  host  of  others,  received  no  benefit 
whatever  for  a  blotched  face.  It  still  continued 
in  a  frightful  state.  IIo  nt  last  consulted  Lignum 
the  younger ;  and  after  taking  about  sii  botdes  of 
the  drops,  he  was  completely  cured,  and  he  has 
never  had  any  return.  Viator  (L) 

ScsAN  PcRR  OP  Chippebhim  (4""  S.  ix.  3-37.) 
A  Bon  of  Susan  Purr  having,  up  to  February  laat, 
been  in  the  service  of  a  relative  of  mine  lately 
resident  at  Chippenham,  in  Cambridgeshire,  my 
wife,  wben  staying  there,  frequently  visited  Mrs. 
Purr,  and  conversed  with  her  a  day  or  two  before 
her  death.  Although  for  the  last  few  years  she 
had  been  bcd'ridden,  she  bad  retiuned  her  facul- 
ties. Iler  age  waa  stated  to  be  ninety-five.  I 
believe  that  she  bad  not  been  photographed. 

H.  M.  Vaub. 

74,  Eaton  Place,  S.W. 

Edward  of  Salisbutit  (i'"  S.  ji.  313.)— In 
jour  valued  correspondent  Tewabs' note  bespeaks 
of  Edward  of  Salisbury's  aon-in-law,  Humphrey  de 
Bohun,  and  of  the  charters  of  Savigny,  anno  lll2. 
Now  in  the  document  on  parchment  I  possess 
(which  I  once  transcribed  for  "  N.  &  Q."),  written 
in  a  very  clear  hand  and  in  wonderful  preserva- 
tion, from  Abrincia  (Avranches  P)  in  this  same  year  | 
1112,  the  thirteenth  of  Henry  I.  riteauclerc)'a 
reign,  and  the  fifteenth  of  Pope  Pascnal'a  pontifi-  | 
cate,  bearing  the  signs  manual  or  crosses  of  the  i 
king  of  the  English,  and  of  thirteen  of  hia  highest  ' 
dignitaries,  I  find  among  them  Sigh  Vnfridi  de  I 
Bohun  + ,  who  waa  atewfird  and  sewer  to  Henry  I.  1 
Ha  became  Haron  of  Trowbridge  on  his  marriage  i 
with  Matilda,  Edward  of  Salisbury's  daughter,  ! 
and  subsequently  Earl  of  Hereford  and  Constable 
of  England.  On  this  same  charter  is  Signil  Man-  I 
goisi  de  Savigneio  + , 


Has  this  Savigny  anything  todowith  the  above- 
mentioned  charters  P  With  regard  to  ^  these 
crosses,  a  geatleman  connected  with  tha  British 
Museum,  to  whom  I  had  sent  a  copy  of  what  re- 
mains of  the  large  seal  of  Henry  1.,  astdng  for 
some  information,  wrote  me  several  years  ago  as 
follows  :— 

"The  'signinf;  irith  a  cross'  wis  doubtleas.  io  its 
orij^nal  use,  ■  mark  of  ignorance  of  the  art  of  writing  i 
but  it  was  also  'afaahion';  for  we  have  proof  that  men 
^ho  ai^ed  irith  their  mark  were  at  the  same  time  not 
aorrequCDtly  skilful  penmen^  I  have  just  been  tookini;  at 


chancellor  who  comes  after  him,  could  do  mono 
than  merely  sign  a  cross.  P.  A.  L. 

Rev.  W.  WiCTKHiET  (4*  S.  ix.  321.)— At  the 
request  of  a  friend  I  once  called  (in  his  company) 
on  the  above-named  gentleman,  and  found  he  was 
lodging  at  the  west  end  of  London.  Mr.  Wicken- 
den  inquired  whether  I  had  ever  read  his  poems, 
and  I  answered  in  the  negative.  He  expressed  sur- 
prise, and  told  me  that  be  waa  "The  Bard  of  the 
Glen  I "  This  interview,  which  was  my  only  one, 
was  about  twenty-five  years  ago.  I  never  heard 
of  Mr.  Wickenden's  death ;  but  I  have  dipped 
into  his  poems,  and  find  them  very  mediocre.  The 
last  news  that  I  heard  of  Mr.  Wickenden  was 
from  a  cutting  critique  on  a  second  volume  of 
poems,  the  eitracts  from  which  showed  that  the 
poor  man  had  become  a  socialist,  or  somethug 
similar.  Viatob  (1). 

Amis  OF  LLANDA77  (4"*  S.  ii.  387.) — Bishop 
Marshall's  tomb,  c.  1406:  Ss.  a  sword  and  two 
keys  in  saldre  or;  onachiefvert  [azure  F],  three 
mitres  of  the  second.  The  cathedral  was  pri- 
marilr  dedicated  to  St.  Peter^  hence  the  keys; 
and  St.  Dubritius,  the  first  bishop,  occupied  in 
succession  the  sees  of  Llaudaff,  Caerleon,  and  SL 
David's — hence  three  mitres. 

Bishop  Lloyd's  tomb,  c.  1607:  Two  pastoral 
staffs  in  saltire ;  in  chief  three  mitres. 

Bishop  Davies'  tomb,  c.  1G75 :  same  as  Bishop 
Marshall,  the  collect  arms.  There  was  no  priory 
at  Llandafi*. 

Mackehzir  E.  C.  Walcott,  B.D.,  F.aA. 

My  impreaaions  of  the  seals  of  Edward  Copleston 
and  Alfred  Ollivant,  successively  Bishops  of  Llan- 
daif,  give  the  arms  of  the  see :  Sa.  two  pastoral 
staffs  in  saltire ;  on  a  chief  ta.  three  mitras  with 
labels.  The  seal  of  Hugh  Williams,  M.A.,  Chan- 
cellor of  Llandaff,  1845,  gives  the  same,  the  dextet 
atatr  (which  is  in  front)  being  argent,  and  the 
crook  or;  the  other  countercha^ed  of  the  same; 
But  my  impreeuon  of  the  fine  canopied  aeal  (^ 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«k  8.  IX.  Juki  1,  *71: 


Thomas  Hnndon,  Bishop  of  Llandnff,  1453,*  giTcs 
a  sword  and  key  in  soltiro.  The  tinctures  are  not 
given;  but  the  coat  appears  to  me  to  be  much 
more  consistently  heraldic  than  the  present  arms, 
since  we  can  hardly  reconcile  the  existence  of  two 

SAtoral  stafls  in  one  see,  more  especially  if  they 
ifer  in  pattern  and  tinctures.  Is  anything  known 
of  the  date  of  this  change  ?  M.  D. 

*'  Allen  " :  "  Pounder  "  (4»»'  S.  ix.  nHQ.y^AUen 
is,  no  doubty  commonly  from  the  Christian  name 
Alan.  It  may,  however,  sometimes  have  been 
taken  from  aland,  idan,  or  alauud,  a  bound.  These 
words  are  forms  of  the  French  olun  — 

•*  a  kind  of  big,  stronSt  thick-hcadctl,  ami  short-manterl 
dog.  of  whicli  thcru  are  tliire  starts :  aiau  getttU  .... 
alan  vtitUrc  ....  aUtu  de  linuvlu  ric.'^ — IJovcr's  FrcncJi 
Diet,  eJ.  1727. 

The  word  occurs  under  a  I^tin  ferm.  Du  Fresne 
gives  — 

'*  AiJiNrs.  C.tni.H  sjiocics,  x'cteribas  nota  HispanLs,  Alano 
Nebriasensi,  Molosxus.'* 

Pounder  is,  1  conceive,  either  a  form  of  pinder, 
a  parish  officer  whoso  duty  it  is  to  impound  stray- 
ing cattle,  or  o(  pot/nder,  a  Scotch  term  for  one  w&o 
distrains.  Edward  Peacock. 

Bottcsford  Manor. 

The  name  I*nuiidor  would  seem  to  be  the  same 
as  Ponder  and  Pinder ;  perhaps  =  a  keeper  of  a 
pound ;  or  it  may  be  from  Saxon;w«jrf<rf,  a  weigher. 
Le  ponderc  and  /^  puider  occur  in  II.  It.  The  sur- 
name Allen  (probably  of  diftbreut  origin  from 
Alan  and  Allan)  may  be  corrupted  from  O.  G. 
(tlf'Win  =  a  helping  friend ;  or  <rtf-ic.inn  =  help 
in  battle.  Conf.  the  names  .l^lfric,  Adolph,  Mar- 
culf ;  Adalwin,  i»aldwiu,  Gerwin.  The  name  Alan 
is  said  to  be  derived  from  a  Slavonic  word,  signi- 
fying a  hound  or  wolf-dog.  Conf.  Scaliger,  Du- 
cange ;  and  the  Old  French  allan,  Sp.  aUino, 

li.  S.  CUARXOCK. 
Gray's  Inn. 

Wright's  *^ Domestic  Manners  of  the  Eng- 
LISE^'  (4**'  S.  ix.  ;i<«).)~Probably  the  accompany- 
ing work  might  suit  your  inquirer :  Les  Anplaifes 
chez  J^ud'j  by  Alphonso  Esquiroa,  and  which  ori- 
ginally appeared  in  a  series  of  able  articles  in  the 
lie  cue  d('8  Dru.r  Moiitha.  It  was  afterwards  trans- 
lated and  edited  by  the  late  Sir  I/ascoUes  Wraxall, 
and  published  in  1 801  ])y  Chapman  &  Hall  under 
the  title  of  The  Uttt/Iish  tit  Jlome,  '2  vols,  post  8vo. 

E.  J. 

WiNDEBANK  Family  (4^^  S.  ix.  021,  304.)— 
The  Harl.  MS.  (15.51,  fol.  87,  b.)  contains  a 
pedigree  commencing  with  Griffith,  who  married 
£dith  Clifton,  and  was  father  of  Sir  Richard 
Windebank,  living  30  Hen.  VIII.,  and  ending 

['?JoAh  Hundeiif  consecrated  Bishop  of  lilandaff  in 
J4aS. — Stabbs''s  Begistrum  Sacrum  Anglicanum^  p.^^.— 


with  the  grandson  of  the  latter,  ^  Sir  Francis  W^ 
Knight,  24  years  old,  1607,"  **  swom  secretftry  of 
state  to  King  Charles  on  15th  Jane,  1062."  '  In 
this  and  Add.  MS.  (49<J4,  fol.  86,  b.)  the  arvs 
of  Windebank,  quartering  Apenridi  and  Clifton^ 
are  emblazoned. 

The  following  quotations  supplement  the  above 
extract  from  the  parish  register  of  Lee :  — 

*'  Sir  Francis  Windebanchc,  Bart.,  of  the  Tower  of  Lon- 
don, and  Elizabeth  Parkhur:»t,  married  May  4,  1086.** — 
Lvson*H  Env.,  iv.  .^08. 
**  Sir  Thomas  Windebank  of  Haineii.  Wilts  fqii.  Berks], 
I  presumed  to  have  been  son  of  Sir  Franci*  Windebank, 
I  Secretary  of  State  to  Charles  I.,  was  created  a  Buvnet 
I  in  1G45 ;  Uit  we  liave  been  unaUc  to  ascertain  any  par- 
ticiilard  of  the  dcdcent  of  the  title  or  of  the  family,  eic- 
I  ceptin^;  the  fact  that  a  Sir  Francis  Windebank.  Bart^  died 
in  1719,  loavinj;  hi.-^  property  to  his  widow  Elizabrth.*'— 
Burke*!!  Kxt,  and  Dor,  Baronetciet. 

I      Sir  Edward  Hales,  of  Tunstall,  married  Francefly 

daughter  of  Sir  Francis  Windebank  of  the  county 

<  of  Oxford ;  she  died  in  1003.     (Burke*8  Ext.  and 

j  Dor.  5rir.,  2:54;  TIasted's  Kent,  ii.  577.)    The  latter 

!  authority  -(iv.  290)  mentions  that  '*  the  manor  of 

Downe  l^rton  was  granted,  10  Elizabeth,  to  one 

Windehank.'* 

"  Ilaincs  nill,  in  the  parish  of  Hurst,  Berks,  was  the 
seat  of  Sir  Thomas  Windebank,  Clerk  of  the  Sipiet,  and 
the  birth-place  of  his  son  Sir  Francis  Windebank,  Seere- 
tar\-  of  State  to  King  CbarU's  l." — Lvaoiis*  Mag.  Brit., 
i.  301. 

H.  M.  Vake. 

Eaton  Place,  S.W. 

WiXDLASs  (4«»»  S.  ix.  390.)-.In  Wedgwood's 
Diet,  "  Windlass,"  it  is  — 

**  A  windlace  was  al«o  a  compns  or  windinf^  coarne. 

**  Amonge  theis  be  appoyntcd  n  fewe  honemen  to  rmunge 
somwliat  abrodefor  the  i^reater  appearance,  bidding  them 
fetch  a  windlassc  a  threat  waye  about,  and  to  make  al 
toward  one  ])lacc.'* — Golding,  Ctctar  in,  R.'* 

The  phrase  *•'  fetch  a  compass,"  was  not  dis- 
placed Dv  the  other  "  fetch  a  windlass,"  as  it  ap- 
pears, for  it  occurs  three  times  in  the  A.  V.  of  the 
bihle— at  2  Sam.  v.  23 ;  2  Kings,  iii.  9 ;  Acts, 
zxviii.  18.  In  this  last  passasre  Coverdale  trans- 
lates "  savled  ahoute."  Tindal  introduces  **  fet  a 
compasse " ;  the  Bishops'  Bible,  the  Genevan  Ter- 
sion,  and  A.  V.  continue  it.  Prof.  Lightfoot 
places  it  among  the  **  archaisms  "  of  our  version 
(Oil  a  f7'esh  Hevmonj  p.  173,  London,  1871). 

£d.  MA.S8HALL. 

In  a  note  {Captain  Car,  p.  75)  Mr.  FuRiriVALL 

queries  whether  the  wi/ndlesse  of  the  text  is  not 

the  same  as  the  hunting  term  wafdanu  The  words 

are  no  doubt  the  same  (both  coming  from  A.-S. 

irindan,  wand),  and  the  metaphorical  use  seems 

most  easily  derivable  from  the  technical  huntings 

term.    In*  Euphues  and  his  EngUmd  (ed.  Arte, 

p.  270)  we  have — 

"  I  now  fetching  a  windlesse,  that  I  mygfat  better  have 
«k  litiooV^'wtA  vc«^«Bk\»^.-^R>&ScL  TMdy  WB^  which 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


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Polonius,  IlaniMj  II.  1.  Go),  says — 

"And  thus  do  we  of  wisdom  and  of  reach, 
With  windlasses  and  witli  assays  of  bias. 
By  indirections  find  directions  out." 

Ilalliwell  riprlitly  (no  doubt)  glosses  the  word 
*'a  turn  or  bend.''  (Handbook  Index,  under 
'*Windlace.^') 

Fairfax  uses  the  word,  not  metaphorically,  for 

'* circuits"  {Tasso,  book  xiv.  stanza  34) —  ^ 

**  As  on  the  Rhine  (when  winter's  freezini;  cold 
Conp:eals  the  streams  to  thick  and  harden*d  glass) 
The  beauties  fair  of  shepherds'  daupjhters  bold. 
With  wanton  windlavy,  run,  turn,  plav,  and  pass." 

(Ed.  C.  knight,  1844.) 

The  huntinp-phrase  (as  I  understand  it)  means 
the  drivinj^  of  the  deer  together  to  a  centre  by 
enclosing  them  in  a  converging  circle  of  beaters. 

I  may  as  well  notice  that,  according  to  Jamie- 
son,  there  is  a  northern  phrase,  "  At  the  wanlas  '* 
or  *'  to  be  taken  at  a  wanlas,"  which  seems  to  have 
a  quite  dillVrent  meaning,  being  derived  from 
A.-S.  leasa  wuin,  Isl.  wonluus. 

Jonx  Addis,  M.A. 
Rustington,  Littlehampton,  Sussex. 

Medi.kval  ScuLPTuiiEs  (4*»^  S.  ix.  080.)— The 
following:  extract  from  De  (iaumont's  Ahecednire, 
mi  Budiment  d'Arc/u'oIof/ie  {Architecture  reli- 
gienxe),  p.  182.  l^ir.  18ol,  will  perhaps  supply  the 
information  required : — 

"  On  peut  consulter  sur  Ics  idees  mystiques  qui  so 
rapportaient  a  certains  animaux  leu  beatiaires^  ou  com- 
mentaires  ecrits  ^i  moyen-ai;c  sur  ce  sujet.  MM.  Martin 
et  Cahicr  en  onT  public  plusieurs  dans  leurs  Mdnnges 
(CArchioIoqir^  et  M.  Ilip|Knu  vient  de  publier,  sous  le 
titre  Bcstiuire.  diviii^  un  volume  in-S^  qui  renferme  un 
trtH-grand  nombre  dc  rcchv-Tclics  savantes  sur  le  meme 
.«ujet.'' 

M.  de  Cauniout  describes  several  in  the  work 
above  cited — tlie  Sairittarius,  Mermaid,  Basilisc, 
Dragon,  &c.,  and  assigns  their  symbolism. 

Ed.  Marshall. 

Mr.  Boftell  will  find  the  information  he  seeks 
in  last  year's  Siu  ristij  (Hodges,  Frome),  and  in 
the  first  numbers  ft  a*  this  year. 

E.  L.  Blenkixsopp. 

**  Hand  of  (Ilory"  (4»'»  S.  ix.  20?=^,  280.  370, 
4o(j.) — Th(?  hand  of  irlory  is  introduced  by  Southey 
into  his  magniliccut  poem  of  Thidaha  tlwDestroycr, 
T.  27 :  — 

"A  ruurdtvor  at  the  stake  had  died, 
I  drove  the  vulture  from  his  limbr«.  and  lopt 
The  hand  that  did  the  murder,  and  drew  up 
The  tendon-Ptrinj^s  to  chvse  its  grasp, 
And  in  the  .-sun  and  wind 
Parch'd  it,  nine  weeks  exposed. 

In  the  notes  the  poet  quotes  Grose's  account  of 
the  hand  of  glory,  and  adds  — 

"  Something  similar  is  recorded  by  Torqaemada  of  the 
Mexican  thieves.  They  carried  with  them  the  left  hand 
and  arm  of  a  woman  who  had  die<l  in  her  first  childbed ; 
with  this  they  twice  struck  the  ground  before  the  house 


which  they  designed  to  rob,  and  the  door  twice,  and  the 
threshold  twice;  and  the  inhabitants,  if  asleep,  were 
hindereil  from  waking  by  this  charm  ;  and  if  Bwmke, 
Ktupified  and  deprived  of  speech  and  motion  while  the 
fatal  arm  was  in  the  hoase.— Lib.  xiv.  c.  22." 

I  cannot  but  think  Mr.  Piggot  has  been  mieled 
in  his  account  of  Edmund  Arrowsmith  by  Roby*8 
Traditions  of  Lancashire.  Unfortunately  I  haye 
not  the  book  to  refer  to ;  but  martyrs  are  not  in 
the  habit  of  cursing  their  enemies,  and  there  are 
circumstances  which  make  it  seem  more  than 
ordinarily  unlikely  that  Arrowsmith  should  do  so. 
I  think  ATr.  Piggot  will  agree  with  me  if  he  will 
read  the  sketch  of  his  life  in  ChalIoner*8  Memoirs 
of  Missionary  Priests,  It  seems  from  the  account 
I  given  there,  that  when  he  arrived  at  the  place  of 
j  execution  he  spent  about  a  quarter  of  an  hour  on 
his  knees  in  prayer  at  the  foot  of  the  ladder,  **  but 
the  sheriff  bidding  him  then  make  haste,  he  replied, 
'  God's  will  be  done,'  and  so,  kissing  the  ladder, 
he  most  undauntedly  walked  up." — Vol.  ii.  p.  142, 
Catholic  Book  Soc.  ed.  Edward  Peacock. 

Bottesford  Manor,  Brigg. 

BoTjyD  To>vERS  OP  Norfolk  (4**»  S.  ix.  186, 
301.) — The  contiguous  parishes  of  Little  Saxham 
and  Risby.  within  three  miles  of  Bury  St.  Ed- 
;  munds,  contain  round  towers,  and  within  a  very 
short  distimce  is  the  parish  of  Denham.  This 
would  seem  slightly  to  favour  the  Danish  origin. 

S.  H.  A.  H. 
Bridgwater. 

"  IIiSTOiRE  DU  Baton  "  (4»»>  S.  ix.  360.)— If 
Dr.  Dixon  had  thought  over  skitale  (which  ought 
to  be  written  ski/tale  or  sci/tale),  he  would  have 
seen  that  the  derivation  of  the  word  wholly  pre- 
cluded any  connection  with  "skittles.**  It  means 
originally  a  thick  staff  or  cudgel.  It  is  also  used 
of  ^'  a  staff  round  which  a  strip  of  paper  was 
rolled  slantwise,  on  which  the  despatches  were 
written  lengthwise ;  so  that,  when  unrolled,  they 
were  unintelligible"  (Liddell  and  Scott).  It  is 
often  derived  from  a-Kvros  =  a  hide,  covering ;  which 
is  connected  with  cutis,  Ger.  hant,  Sanskrit  sku*' 
(tego),  obscurns,  and  probably  aKve-pos,  Ger.  scfturen 
(perhaps).  If  this  derivation  be  right,  then  the 
meaning  which  I  gave  second  is  (Liddell  and 
Scott)  the  original  one.  But  Liddell  and  Scott 
prefer  to  connect  ffKinaKri  with  |iJ«,  ^vKov,  ^6«,  ^6os, 
scalpoj  scidpo,  H.  S.  Skipton. 

Who  was  "Le  Comte  de  Pitillan"?  (4«»'  S. 
ix.  397.)  —  Comte  de  Pitillan  is  probably  the 
Venetian  general,  Count  Petillan  or  Petillano. 
See  Brantome,  Memoir  of  Alviano,  or  any  account 
of  the  battle  of  Agiiadel,  or  Syradave,  between 
Lewis  XII.  and  the  Venetians. 

Ralph  N.  James. 

Ashford,  Kent. 

*  With  haiU  we  may  compare  **  hide.'*    May  we  also 
compare  sku  with  *< skin" ? 


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[4*  a  XX.  Jon  1, 71 


PiEBsniLL  Barracks,  EDiKBURGn  (4'**  S.  ix. 
389.)-^M.D.  thiuks  there  Ih  *'no  topographical 
reason  for  the  name  [Piershill]  being  given  to  the 
bank/'  Personal  names  were  frequently  imposed 
on  banks  and  mounds.  The  name  in  question 
appears  to  have  been  first  given  to  the  locality  at 
some  date  long  anterior  to  the  erection  of  the 
barracks.  Other  place-names  in  Scotland,  of  kin- 
dred construction,  are  Penrsie  Hill,  in  the  parish 
of  Kingoldrum;  Poarsiehill  and  Pearcy,  Perth- 
shire; Pearsley  Hall,  Dumfriei^;  and  Persloy, 
Aberdeen;  Percyhill,  Koxburghahire;  Poarsie, 
Forfar ;  l*ersiland,  Jjimark ;  Pier,  county  of  Wig- 
ton  ;  Pier  of  Wall,  Orkney,  Sec. 

I  fancy  M.D.  must  also  be  mistaken  in  sup- 
posing that  Piers  is  not  a  Scotch  name.  I  well 
remember  an  early  sfhool  companion  of  this  name, 
a  native  Scot,  though  whether  in  the  orthography 
of  Piers  or  Pears  I  cannot  recall.  The  latter  is  a 
common  Yorkshire  form  of  this  surname.  There 
are  also  the  Scottish  surnames  of  Pearson,  Parson, 
Pearman,  &c.  Pier,  in  Piersjhill,  is  possibly  a 
personal  name  in  the  possessive  case,  originally 
applied  to  the  soil ;  and  from  thi^,  as  I  think,  the 
barrack  takes  its  designation.  Bilho. 

Old  BinLK  (4'**  S.  ix.  340.) — 1  have  seen  no 

answer   to  Y.  S.  M.'s  query  as  to  the  Bihic  in 

Sculpture.     The  following  note's  may  be  of  use. 

This  is.  strictly  speaking,  a  series  of  platen  only; 

and,  if  I  mistake  not,  has  the  name  oi  Moses  (not 

TJiomns)  i^itt  on  the  title,     it  is  generally  found 

in  the  Oxford  4to  Bible  of  10?.)  — 

*•  Printed  nt  the  Tlientcr  in  Oxford,  and  are  to  bt*  sold 
by  Mo.«cs  I'itt  nt  the  Angel  in  St.  Paul's  Churchyard ; 
Peter  Parker,  nt  the  Lojjj  nnd  Star,  over  against  the 
Exchnnif^e  in  Cornhill ;  Thonins  <Tuy,  at  the  Corner  of 
Little  Lunibard  Street ;  and  William' Leak,  at  the  Crown 
in  Fleet  Street,  London." 

It  also  occurs  in  later  editions ;  but  a  Bible  is  not 
to  bo  reckoned  perfect  unh'ss  it  has  its  own  title 
as  well  OS  that  of  tlie  Bible  in  Sculpture.  It  is 
rather  strarce,  but  not  rery :  1  have  seen  four  or 
five  copies  in  two  years.  1  do  not  think  it  is  in 
Lo"wndes.  W.  J.  Loftie. 

Cater-cousins  (4»»»  S.  ix.  301,  000.)— The  word 
**  cater- (?on? in"  is  still  in  common  use  in  Lancashire. 
It  is  applied  to  those  relationships  which  are  ex- 
tremely distant  or  very  doubtful.  When  a  person 
claims  relationship  to  any  of  our  local  ancient 
families  ho  is  immediately  twitted  with  being 
"  only  a  catMr-cousin,"  in  intimation  that  his  con- 
nection is  both  doubtful  and  distant.  This  agrees 
with  the  derivation  of  the  term  from  fjuatre.  An 
angular  stone  or  piece  of  wood  is  also  said  to  be 
**  eater-cornered  when  one  of  the  angles  is  "  out 
of  square ''  or  too  far  distant  from  the  rest.     A 

EersoD  is  also  said  to. walk  "  cater-coniered  '*  when 
e  moves  with  one  side  in  advance  of  the  other. 
This  is  specially  applied  to  those  who  have  suf- 
fered from  paralysis.  T.  T.  W^. 


ftiiittTiKntttui* 

NOTES  OX  BOOKS.  ETC. 

TTie  Jliitoty  and  Law  of  Church  Seat»  or  Pewg.  B§ 
Alfred  Heales,  F.S.A..,  Proctor  in  Doctors*  Commoiii. 
Part  L  HUtory.    Part  II.  Law.    (Butterworths.) 

There  are  few  legal  qaestions  of  the  present  dav  which 
have  greater  interest— at  leiutt  for  Churchmen — toan  that 
vrhicli  fonni  the  subject  of  the  two  volumes  before  us.  A 
perusal  of  the  preface  will  show  that,  despite  that  interait, 
but  liltle  has  yet  been  done  to  trace  out  the  history  of 
our  present  ^stem  of  church  seats,  or  even  of  the  Uwb 
by  which  their  allotment  and  enjoyment  are  nsgolated. 
Accordingly,  Mr.  Ueales^s  book  partakes  ncoessarily  of  a 
twofold  nature.  The  first  Part  is  an  investigation  of  the 
Earlv  History  of  Church  Seats  or  Pews,  from  its  origin 
until  the  system  acquiretl  the  form  in  which  it  is  now 
clothed ;  and  to  do  this  efTectually,  the  writer  has  pro- 
duced every  early  authority  which  came  within  his  range. 
The  second  Part,  or  volume,  which  is  devoted  to  the  Law 
or  Legal  History  of  Church  Seats  or  Pews,  is  intended  to 
show  under  a  special  arrangement  of  the  subject  what 
points  have  been  decided  hitherto,  including  all  cases  to 
the  present  date,  and  also  the  effect  of  the  various  Ghorcfa 
Building  Acts.  As  some  evidence  of  the  pains  which  he 
has  bestowed  upon  hu  work,  Mr.  Heales  states  that  it  con- 
tains between  1400  and  1500  extracts  from,  or  refereaeet 
to,  about  three  hundred  and  fifty  authorities,  including  ori- 
ginal records;  every  one  of  which,  except  in  the  few 
instances  where  it  is  expressly  so  stated,  has  been  made 
or  verified  bv  himself.  It  cannot,  therefore,  be  doubted 
that  the  book,  from  its  completeness,  will  be  welcomed 
alike  by  the  legal  profession  and  the  general  public. 

IVorhn  of  Henry  Ijord  Brougham.  Vol.  I.  Licet  vf  ikt 
FhiloKtphers  of  the  Time  of  George  111.  (A.  and  C- 
Black.) 

This  is  the  first  volume  of  a  new  ancLchcaper  edition  of 
the  eleven  vohimes  of  The  Collected  Edition  of  Lard 
Brougham**  WorkSf  which  were  published  under  the 
direct  personal  superintendence  of  the  noble  author  be- 
tween the  years  1855  and  18C0.  It  is  prefaced  by  a 
pleasant  sketch  of  their  author— one  of  the  most  remark- 
able men  of  a  most  remarkable  age — and  a  facsimile  of 
the  original  MS.  written  in  1838,  and  will  be  completed 
by  what  will  be  vcr^'  valuable,  a  General  Index  to  the 
whole  work. 

A  SMALL  brochure  by  ^I.  IVAvezac,  reprinted  from 
the  Acte$  de  la  Stfci^tv  PhihAogique,  proposes  a  new  and 
ingenious  explanation  of  the  origin  of  the  name  Spain. 
Objecting  to  tliat  suggested  by  Bochart^  namely,  from  a 
Hebrew  word  signifving  Babbit,  Vt.  D'Avezac  contends 
for  its  origin  in  the  I'ersian — the  Persisns  having,  accord- 
ing to  some  ancient  authoritiei^,  succeeded  the  Iberians  in 
occupying  the  Peninsula — and  derives  from  the  Persiui 
Etpt  a  horse,  in  the  plural  Kapan^  the  name  EsPANia. 

TiiK  LinRARiKs  OF  Italy. — There  are  in  Italy,  exda- 
sive  of  the  Roman  and  Venetian  States,  210  public  libra- 
ries, containing  4,149,281  volumes;  which  gives  an 
average  of  19  volumes  for  every  hundred  inhabitante. 
Of  these  210  libraries,  28  belong  to  SicUy,  and  pooev 
.'}35,872  volumes.  In  the  Venetian  States  alone  there  an 
4G  libraries,  containing  905,895  volumes. 

WaDNEsnAT  was  the  first  day  of  the  celebration,  in 
which  the  king  took  part,  of  the  hundredth  annivenaiy  of 
the  foundation  of  the  Uelgian  Academy.  It  was  oonMi- 
tuted  in  1772  by  the  Empress  Maria  Theresa.  Sospendad 
during  the  whole  time  of  the  French  domination  fnm 
1794  to  1815,  it  was  reorganised  in  1816.  Since  tfan  It 
has  pursued  uninterruptedly  its  usefVU  UbouVt     It  il 


4«»  S.  IX.  June  1,  72.] 


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The  Hertford  Collections  of  pictures,  sculpture,  bronzes, 
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Bethnal  Green  Museum  by  the  liberality  of  Sir  Richard 
Wallace.  The  museum  will  be  opened  to  the  public  in 
the  course  of  the  month. 

The  Times  reports  that  a  Commission  is  about  to  be 
appointed  by  the  Italian  Government  to  superintend  all 
the  remains  of  ancient  Rome,  and  that  the  Pope  has 
authorised  Messrs.  de  Rossi  and  Yisconti  to  become 
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The  thirty-first  annual  general  meeting  of  the  mem- 
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the  reading-room  at  12,  St.  James's  Square,  when  Mr. 
W.  D.  Christie  was  elected  trustee  in  place  of  the  late 
Mr.  Grote,  the  historian  of  Greece. 


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of  The  Cyclopajdia  of  Chronology,  just  published  by 
Messrs.  Longman,  and  several  other  books  of  great  in- 
terest. 

C.  D.  L. —  Where  will  a  letter  fad  you  f 

Tewaks. — That  useful  periodical  The  East  Anglian 
has  been  discontinued ;  but  a  notice  of  its  successor^  The 
Eastern  Counties  Collectanea /or  Jan.  1872  {Green,  Nor- 
tcich\  will  be  found  in  the  last  number  (Part  xL)  0/  The 
Herald  and  Genealogist,  p.  372. 

A  SuBSCKiBER  (Bideford). — Sir  Thomas  Malory  was 
the  first  translator  of  the  Morte  d'Arthur  (1485)  from  the 
cycle  of  French  romances,  principally  from  those  of  Lan- 
celot.  For  the  meaning  of  the  title  "  The  Khedive"  see 

«  N.  &  a"  4th  s.  iv.  275,  522. 

Senoj  (Leeds). — There  is  a  Life  of  Beau  Nash,  ex- 
tracted from  his  own  papers,  and  edited  by  Oliver  Gold- 
smith {Lond.  1762,  8vo)  with  portrait.  Consult  also  the 
London  Magazine,  xxxi.  616-517;  Universal  Magazine, 

xxxL  2G5  ;  and  Blackwood's  Magazioe,  xlviii.  773. 

There  are  two  anonymous  Lives  of  Samuel  Foote,  one 
tcithout  date,  the  other,  Lond.  1788.  fFm.  Cooke  also  nub- 
iiahed  his  Memoirs  in  3  vols.  1805.    Consult  also  Bentley's 


Miscellany,  i.  298-305,  with  portrait,  and  John  Forster*s 
Biographical  Essays,  1860. 

R.  E.  W.  (Union  Road,  S.E.) — There  were  three  FHiO'' 
lish  translations  of  Caesar's  Commentaries  before  that  by 
Clement  Edmonds  (which  first  appeared  in  1600-1609, 
in  3  vols.  foL),  namely,  by  John  Rastell  (?),  no  date  ;  John 
Tiptoft,  Earl  of  Worcester,  1630  ;  Arthur  Goldinge,  1563, 
1565. 

A.  G.  Barnes  (Oxford). — For  the  derivation  of  the 
word  penny  consult  "  N.  &  Q."  !•«  S.  L  384,  411 ;  11.  78, 
174  ;  3rd  s.  xil  25,  75. 

E.  H.  Coi^siAN. — On  the  refusal  of  pregnant  women  to 
take  an  oath,  see  "N.  &  Q."  1«  S.  iv.  151,  214  ;  v.  393  1 
viii.  503. 

E.  B.  CuRTEis.— The  Holy  Bible,  1672,  is  the  Genevan^ 
with  Canne*s  notes.  It  has  two  different  imprints  on  the 
title-page,  the  copy  in  the  British  Museum  has  simply 
''Printed  in  the  year  1672."  See  Bohn's  Lowndes,  p.  188  ; 
Offor's  Sale  Catalogue,  lot  923 ;  and  Lea  Wilson's  List, 
K0.2O8. 

J.  Manuel. — An  advocate,  or  lawyer,  who  wanted  a 
convenient  witness  at  the  Old  Bailey  or  Westminster  Hall 
in  the  good  old  times,  had  only  to,  retire  into  the  precincts  of 
the  court,  to  find  a  person  wWt  a  straw  in  his  shoe :  hence 
the  phrase  '*A  man  of  straw,**  cad  which  is  cUso  applied  to 
a  bill-acceptor  having  no  assets.    See  **  N.  &  Q.'*  1»»  S.  vii. 

86,  342. For  the  legtd  use  of  bells  in  dissenting  chapels^ 

see  !•*  S.  ii.  326  ;  iv.  165,  244  ;  4»»».S.  iv.  66,  82, 123,  267, 
370,  542. 

P.  A.  L. — Thomas  Byerley,  the  Reuben  Percy  of  anec- 
dotal fame,  was  editor  of  The  Star,  Literary  Chronicle,. 
and  The  Mirror.  One  of  his  numerous  noma  de  plume 
W€u  Stephen  Collet,  the  name  assumed  on  the  title  of  his 

Relics  of  Literature,  1823.     He  died  July  26,  1826. 

Shdtto  Percy  was  Joseph  Clinton  Robertson,  who  died  in 
1862. 

A.  Reynolds. — There  is  some  obscurity  ns  to  the  origin 
of  the  name  of  the  obelisk  *^  Cleopatra* s  Iveedle^*  called  by 
the  Arabs  mesellek,  a  packing-needle  ;  but  see  "  X.  &  Q." 

3^  S.  xi.  307,  431. 

W.  Clement  (Portsea). — The  tradition  respecting  the 
curiously-carved  pillar  in  Roslin  Chapel,  near  Edinburgh^ 
is  as  follows : — The  master  builder  being  unable  to  execute 
the  design  of  the  particular  pillar  mentioned  from  the  de- 
signs in  his  possession,  proceeded  to  Rome  that  he  might  see 
a  column  of  a  similar  description  which  had  been  executed 
there.  During  his  absence  his  apprentice  completed  the 
work  in  its  present  exquisite  style,  which  so  exasperated  the 
master  that  he  struck  him  with  his  mallet,  and  killed  him  on 
the  spot. 

W.  A.  B.  C. — Consult  Murray's  Handbook  of  Portugal 
(1864),  and  at  pp.  75,  116,  you  will  find  some  conjectures 
as  to  the  origin  of  **Estremadura  "  tind  **PortugcU*  '*  Na- 
varre "  is  derived  from  Nav,  a  common  Iberian  prefix^ 
which  signifies  a  **  plain  under  hills,"  and  is  the  best  de- 
scription of  the  province.  Consult  Murray's  Handbook  of 
Spain  (1869),  part  i.  p.  480. 

Junior  Student. — Vide  Liddell  and  Scott  for  the 

meaning  of  opoKTopla. 

Erratum.— 4*»^  S.  ix.  p.  426,  coL  ii.  lines  20  and  23 /or 
"Mr.  Long  Hyde  "  read  "Lory,"  t.  e.  «•  Laurence.'* 

irOTICE. 

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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


459 


LONDON,  SATURDAY,  JUNE  8,  1872. 


CONTENTS.— No.  232. 

NOTES :  —  Junius,  4.")9  —  The  Cities  of  Potilia,  4«1  —  Shake- 
apeariap.a,  102  —  Londou  Street  Kayiupj,  46:i  —  On  the 
Loan  of  IJooks  during  the  Middle  Afces,  lb.—  Burley 
Faniilv.  4Gi—  William  Hull«\vn  on  Suffolk  and  True  Gen- 
tlemen —  '•  01.1  Tom  Green  "  —  Chaucer :  "  Dethe  of 
Blaunrlio  "  —  An  old  Winchester  Epigram  — Dr.  DoUin- 
ger's  "  Fables  ri-spccting  the  Popes"  — Meuni,  Tuum,  et 
■Suum  ;  or,  Kvf'ry  Man  his  Own  —  Bell  Inscription  —  Gai 

—  The  King  of  Smokers:  Mr.  Klaes  — Burial  Usaflroa  — 
TennysoiiiaiKi  —  Lord  John  Russell's  Retort  on  Burdett, 
403. 

QUERIED  :—  William  Hilton  "  of  Bidickc,  of  the  Bishoprik 
of  Duresme"  in  1562,  467  — Manusmpt  History  of  Lon- 
dou ?  or  of  the  Inns  of  Court  ?  468  —  Ballad :  Soug  —  Chau- 
cer Qu«'rv  —  Church  Family  — Miss  Edgar  —"Extracts 
from  a  Narralive,"  &c.—  Frau-Holda  — Margaret  Harvey 

—  (Todfrey  Hicirins  —  Sir  Charles  Villavinco  Hudson,  Bart. 

—  Indian  Impij-.tor- Industrious  — The  London  UnWer- 
Hity  —  N'apoh'«Mi  at  Waterloo  —  Picture  attributed  to  llaf- 
faell*'  McDRs  —  "  Political  Fame  "  —  Was  Prior  a  Cler»«y- 
inan?  —  Smyth  Family  Crest  —  Spofllsh  —  Strad lings  of 
8t.  Donats  —  Snhlirao  Porte  —  Sundry  Queries  —  Tauistry 

—  Jo.  Wt'Ston,  Ksq.,  46S. 

B.EPLIESS:—  Miserere  Carvings,  471  —  Houstoun  of  Hous- 
toun.  47;i  — The  Plant  Basil,  474  — Trumbull's  Picture  of 
"Bunk.r's  Hill"  — Parallel  Passage  in  Tibullus  and  Dr. 
Watts'-,  "  Hvwms"—  Hard  Labour  —  Divisions  of  Saxony 

—  lolaiithe  -  Burns  and  Keblo  — "Think  that  Day  lost," 
&c.  — The  Altar  Cloths  of  Old  St.  Paul's  — "To  Tinker  "- 
Irish  Provincialisms  —  "Not  lost,  but  ffono  before"  — 
•'  When  Adam  delved," &c.  —  Wimborue  Minster—  "  Gen- 
tlemen of  tlio  Pitvement,"  &c.,  474. 

2fotes  on  Books.  &c. 


JUNIUS. 

Since  writing:  my  last  note  under  this  heading  • 
I  have  not,  until  now,  had  an  opportunity  of  again 
looking  into  Mr.  Twisleton's  hook  on  the  hand- 
writing of  Junius,  with  M.  Chahot^s  report  on 
the  subject.  My  second  inspection  of  the  work, 
though  noc'ossarily  of  a  cursory  nature,  furnishes 
niatter  for  a  note  or  two  which  may  not  be  with- 
out interest  f«)r  those  who  care  to  read  anything 
connect f^d  with  the  Junian  mystery. 

M.  Chabot,  rt^ferring  to  the  proofs  of  Junius's 
letters  for  th«;  *'  author's  edition^'  of  1772,  of  some 
of  which  fac-similes  are  given  in  Mr.  Twisleton^s 
work,  calls  attontion  to  the  obliterations  of  what 
he  supposes  to  have  been  dates  written  on  the 

5 roofs,  and  the  substitution  of  other  dates  in  the 
uuian   handwriting;    and  he  accounts   for   the 
circumstance  thus :  — 

"  In  all  probability  his  (the  proof  corrector's)  mind  was 
so  intent  upon  a  determination  to  have  every  one  of  them 
(the  datos)  printed  in  his  own  particular  way,  tliat,  for 
the  moment,  he  forijot  he  was  Junius,  and  inserted  them 
in  his  ho7ia  fide  haiulwritiug.  With  still  greater  deter- 
mination he  has  endeavoured  to  efface  them ;  but,  in  hia 
confusion,  he  loft  one  untouched,  that  of  July  1769— no 
less  a  spei'imen  of  the  natural  handwriting  of  the  Junian 
letters  than  tliose  which  he  had  effectually  concealed." 

Mr.  Twi^leton  and  M.  Chabot  firmly  believe 
that  the  author  of  Junius's  Letters  and  the  writer 
of  the  date    in    the    natural  handwriting  was 

*  4»h  S.  viii.  104. 


Sir  Philip  Francis.  But  when  we  talk  of  Ju- 
nius's  "  natural  hand,"  it  should  not  be  for- 
gotten that  in  number  6  of  his  private  letters 
to  Woodfall,  dated  August  G,  1769,  Junius  broke 
into  his  natural  hand;  and  then,  the  writing, 
thougli  a  little  like  Lord  George  Sackville's  and 
a  good  deal  like  Mr.  Boyd's,  is  not  at  all  like 
Francis's.  I  think  that  in  my  former  note,  while 
ridiculing  the  notion  of  Francis  being  Junius,  I 
admitted  the  strong  resemblance  of  the  above 
date,  July  29,  1709,  to  other  dates  unquestionably 
written  by  Francis  in  letters  to  his  wife  and  to 
friends.  If,  however,  I  were  actually  convinced  . 
that  the  date  on  the  proof  was  written  by  Francis, 
I  would  merely  conclude  that  he  had  availed 
himself  of  an  opportunity  of  placing  it  there  some 
time  after  his  return  from  India,  in  furtherance 
of  his  desire,  as  shown  by  many  little  artifices  and 
bits  of  acting,  to  be  looked  upon  as  the  "  mighty 
boar  of  the  wrest." 

The  "own    particular  way"    in    which    Mr. 
Twisleton   says  the  proof-corrector  wished  the 
dates  to  be  printed,  was  by  having  the  number  of 
the  day  (29)  placed  before  the  month  (July). 
This  was  the  way  in  which  Francis  dated  nis 
private  letters,  and  Mr.  Twistleton  thinks  it  so 
remarkable,  that  he  relies  upon  it  as  a  proof  of 
the  identity  of  Junius  with  Francis.     Men  fall 
into  strange  inconsistencies  in  their  endeavours 
to  uphold  a  theory.    We  all  know  that  Junitm 
desired  concealment.     Mr.  Twisleton  knows  it, 
for  he  more  than  once  refers  to  the  circumstance. 
Yet,  bewildered  by  his  Franciscan  theory,  he 
imagines  that  Junius,  trembling  for  his  very  life, 
as  appears  by  his  private  notes  to  Woodfall,  re- 
solved (by  way  of  avoiding  detection)  "  to  have 
every  one  of  the  dates  printed  in  his  own  parti- 
cular way";  that  *'way"  being,  in  Mr.  Twisle- 
ton's opinion,  so  very  "particular,"  that  it  furnishes 
him  a  century  afterwards  with  a  clue  to  unravel  a 
mystery  which  has  baffled  everybody  else !    This 
is  not  all.     Before  admitting  the  probability  of 
Mr.  Twisleton's  hypothesis  relative  to  the  mark- 
ing of  the  proofs,  it  is  indispensable  to  believe 
first,  that  Junius  wrote  on  the  proofs,  in  his  dis- 
guised hand,  the  name  of  the  person  to  whom  a 
letter  was  addressed ;  secondly,  that  immediately 
underneath  he  wrote,  in  his  natural  hand,  the 
date,  to  be  afterwards  obliterated;  thirdly,  that 
ho  then  went  back  again  to  his  Junian  hand,  and 
used  it  in  making  corrections,  additions,  and  notes 
on  the  same  page,  and  that  a  very  small  one ;  and 
fourthly,  that  all  this  was   done  not  once  bat 
over  and  over  again. 

Perhaps  I  may  be  permitted  to  hazard  a  guess 
as  to  the  erasures  on  the  proofs  and  the  date  in 
question,  which  is  so  like  Francis's  handwriting. 
May  it  not  be  that  the  dates  were  written  in  the 
first  instance  by  Woodfall,  and  that  Junius^  find- 
ing them  inaccurate,  effaced  them  and  substituted 


460 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


C4«k&IX.Juan8,'7t. 


others,  except  in  the  iostance  of  the  29th  of  July, 
1769,  which,  helDg  correct,  was  allowed  to  stand  P 
Headers  of  the  Jiinian  controversy  will  remem- 
ber the  allusions  made  to  the  "  Pauline "  hand- 
writing, said  to  have  been  peculiar  to  persons 
educated  at  St.  PauVs  School.  Francis,  wno  was 
educated  there,  is  described  as  liaving  written  the 
*'  Pauline  '*  hand.  Now  AVoodfall  was  a  school- 
fellow of  Francis  at  PauVs,  and  may  be  supposed 
to  have  acquired  the  peculiar  handwriting  of  the 
school— a  circumstance  favourable  to  the  conjec- 
ture that  the  dates  on  the  proofs  were  originally 
written  by  him. 

I  turn  to  another  point  which  is  somewhat 
curious,  and  has  hitherto,  I  believe,  escaped  notice. 
From  a  comparison  of  the  proofs  in  Mr.  Twisle- 
ton's  book  with  the  first  or  author's  edition  of 
JuniuSj  publi.shcd  by  AVoodfall  in  1772,  it  appears 
that  the  work  was  composed  twice.  By  "com- 
posed" I  mean  set  up  in  type.  The  type  in 
which  the  Ltttors  were  first  composed  was  a  little 
smaller  than  that  subsequently  adopted.  Wood- 
fall  must,  in  the  first  instance,  have  cut  the  let- 
ters from  tlie  tile  of  the  Puhlic  Advertiser  and  had 
them  composed  and  at  once  arranged  in  pages 
and  sheets,  proofs  of  which  he  sent  to  Junius  for 
correction.  In  doing  this  Woodfall  overlooked 
some  letters,  probably  those  signed  "Philo- Ju- 
nius"; for  the  letter  to  i!?ir  William  Draper, 
numbered  22  in  the  proofs,  stands  number  27  in 
the  work  when  published.  These  omissions,  as 
well  as  the  notes  wliich  Junius  supplied,  made  it 
necessary  to  break  up  the  matter  in  type  and  re- 
arrange the  whole  of  it ;  and  this  circumstance, 
combined,  perhaps,  witli  a  desire  to  make  the  book 
look  better,  probably  induced  Woodfall  to  com- 
pose the  wort  afresh.  C.  Eoss. 

P.S.  Since  the  foregoing  i^as  written  I  have, 
by  the  politeness  of  Mr  Winter  Jones,  the  Libra- 
rian of  the  British  Museum,  had  an  opportunity 
of  looking  at  the  proof-sheets  corrected  by  Junius, 
and  also  at  the  letter  written  by  Woodfall  to 
Junius,  dated  March  7,  177:^,  and  which  we 
may  suppose  Junius  did  not  receive,  either  be- 
cause it  was  not  sent,  or,  being  sent  and  not  called 
for,  was  recovered  by  Woodfall  It  may  reason- 
ably be  concluded  that  it  is  not  a  copy,  because 
it  has  been  sealed,  and  I  think  there  are  no  cor- 
rections in  it. 

From  an  inspection  of  Woodfall's  handwriting 
of  Jotters  and  figures,  I  think  the  date  29  July, 
1771,  on  the  proof,  might  have  been  written  by 
him ;  but  I  am  bound  to  say  that  the  writing  on 
the  proof  is  more  precise  and  symmetrical  than 
Woodfall's ;  and  further,  that  in  Woodfall's  letter 
the  number  of  the  day  follows  the  name  of  the 
month.  Before  dismissing  the  subject  of  the  dates 
I  may  menUon  that,  in  the  proof-sheets  of  the 
secona  yolume  sent  to  Junius  for  correctioo^  it 


was  not  left  to  him  to  supply  them — they  wars 
all  printed. 

Ifind  I  was  right  in  my  conjecture  aboyey^hit 
the  letters  omitted  in  the  proof-sheets  were  thoee 
of  Philo- Jimius :   for,  at  several  places  in  the 

5 roofs,  Junius  has  written  ''Here  insert  Philo- 
unius  "  of  such  and  such  a  date. 
I  find  also,  that  the  very  dark-coloured  obliten- 
tions  reproduced  from  the  proofs  in  Mr.  Twisle- 
ton's  fac-similes  were  not  made  by  Junius;  and 
further,  that  his  manner  of  making  conectiant 
does  not  support  the  opinion  which  has  been 
advanced — tnat  he  was  accustomed  to  correct  for 
the  press.  The  usual  way  of  deleting  a  word  ii 
by  drawing  through  it  a  horizontal  line,  thus  , 
Junius,  however,  drew  a  line  through  it  perpen- 
dicularly, thus  I  ,  if  a  word  of  one  syllable,  and 
two  or  three  perpendicular  lines  if  a  long  word. 
■  Mr.  Twisleton  8  book  shows  two  instances  of  this, 
to  which  I  will  refer.  In  the  proof  of  Letter  14 
Junius  has  drawn  two  perpendicular  lines,  each 
of  which  passes  through  a  letter  in  the  word 
"philasophers";  and  in  Letter  16  he  has  drawn 
only  one  line  trough  the  letter  o  in  the  ward 
"  you." 

'When  Junius  sent  back  the  proofs,  WoodfaU, 
or  his  foreman,  would  at  once  perceive  the  inade- 
quacy of  Junius*s  marks  of  correction,  and  wooU 
know  that  if  given  in  that  state  to  the  compodton 
thev  would  take  out  only  the  letters  tnrondi 
which  tlie  lines  were  drawn,  and  therefore  he 
efiaced  the  words  etfectually  in  the  usual  way.  It 
may  be  urged  that  Junius  himself  might  have 
made  the  second  efiacement  over  his  perpendicular 
marks.  Doubtless ;  but  the  reasons  for  supposing 
ho  did  not  do  so  are  these :  —  the  perpenoicular 
marks  are  made  in  ink  which  has  become  of  a 
brown  colour,  corresponding  with  that  of  Junius  s 
contemporaneous  wnting  in  the  mai^^na  of  the 
proofs;  whereas  the  lateral  erasures  are  in  ink  which 
still  retiuns  its  black  colour.  Indeed  the  black* 
ness  of  the  colour  would  almost  lead  to  a  suspidon 
that  a  fresh  coating — if  I  may  use  the  expression — 
had  been  laid  on  since  Woo^all's  time.  Haying 
touched  upon  this  point  I  cannot  refrain  from  di- 
recting the  attention  of  those  who  may  have  mora 
time  for  the  investigation  of  the  matter  than  I 
have  to  the  before-mentioned  date  of  July  S9; 
1709,  which  seems  to  me  to  have  been  touched  in 
some  places  very  delicately  with  a  darker  colouzed 
ink  than  that  in  which  it  was  first  written. 

As  regards  the  question  of  Juniu8*s  handwriting 
generally :  — When  turning  over  page  after  page 
of  preface  in  manuscript  one  cannot  ful  to  oe 
struck  by  its  beauty,  its  freedom,  and^  its  homo- 
geneity (the  last  being  a  charactetistic  which  it 
must  be  very  difficult  to  preserve  in  a  disgoiaad 
hand),  and  the  question  mvoluntarilj  axiaea  n 
one*s  mind  —  ''Is  not  this,  after  all,  a  nataial 
hand?'' 


4«»»  S.  IX.  Juke  8,  72. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


461 


I  will  conclude  this,  I  fear,  tedious  communica- 
tion with  a  query :  Are  there  any  specimens  ob- 
tainable of  the  handwritinpf  of  Chatham's  wife, 
his  daughter,  and  his  sister  ?  C.  R. 


THE  CITIES  OF  PETILIA. 

It  is  a  question  which  has  never  yet  been  satis- 
factorily decided,  whether  there  were  two  cities  of 
this  name,  or  onlv  one.  As  I  have  examined  the 
matter  with  some  degree  of  care,  and  have  been 
on  the  spot,  I  may  be  allowed  to  state  the  conclu- 
aion  at  which  I  have  arrived.  As  to  the  city  of 
Petilia  in  the  country  of  the  Bruttii,  twelve  miles 
north  of  Croton,  where  the  village  of  Strongoli  is 
now  found,  there  can  be  no  doubt  The  site  is 
exactly  as  it  is  described — a  strong  position,  and 
such  as  in  those  days,  when  artillery  was  un- 
known, might  sustain  such  a  siege  as  we  know 
that  it  did  (Liv.  xxiii.  20,  30;  Polyb.  vii.  1) 
agunst  the  Carthaginian  forces  under  Himilco.  It 
ifi  placed  on  a  steep  hill,  and  as  it  is  said  to  have 
been  founded  by  l^hiloctetes  (Strab.  vi.  p.  264 ; 
Serv.  ad  Virg.  Alh.  iii.  401)  the  inhabitants  of 
Strongoli  point  out  the  ruins  of  an  ancient'  edifice, 
which  they  call  the  Temple  of  Philoctetes,  where 
they  have  found  coins,  bronze  figures,  and  terra- 
cotta lamps.  Near  their  cathedral,  which  is  large 
and  handsome,  lie  several  fragments  of  pillars  of 
Cipollino  marble,  with  some  sepulchral  inscrip- 
tions, one  of  which  is  curious,  as  it  records  the 
will  of  a  citizen,  who  leaves  to  the  Augustal  col- 
lege of  Petilia  a  sum  of  money  and  a  vineyard. 
The  sum  of  money  is  to  be  laid  out  in  the  purchase 
of  certain  candelabra  holding  two  lights,  which 
are  to  be  used  at  a  particular  public  festival,  at 
the  celebration  of  which  the  wine  produced  by 
the  said  vineyard,  called  Csedicium,  is  to  be  drunk. 

Respecting  this  Petilia  there  can  be  no  dispute, 
but  the  difllculty  arises  from  a  passage  in  Plutarch 
(Crass,  c.  11),  in  which  he  states  that  Crassua 
defeated  a  considerable  body  of  rebels  under 
Spartacus  in  the  salt  marshes  in  the  vicinity  of 
PsestuDi,  and  that  after  the  defeat  the  forces  re- 
treated to  the  Montes  Petilini ;  and  Strabo  (vi. 
p.  254)  speaks  of  Petilia  being  the  capital  of 
Lucania.  Those  salt  marshes  are  still  around 
Pa3stum,  as  1  found  from  getting  involved  in  the 
midst  of  them  towards  sunset  near  the  mouth  of 
the  Sele,  the  ancient  Silarus.  The  Petilia  of 
which  1  have  spoken  above  is  somewhere  about 
one  hundred  and  fifty  miles  at  least  from  PsBstum, 
with  many  hills  nnd  dales  between,  which  renders 
it  imlikely  that  tlie  defeated  forces  of  Spartacus 
should  think  of  directing  their  course  to  such  a 
distant  spot. 

The  question  arises,  where  were  these  Montes 
Petilini  ?  It  would  naturally  suggest  itself  that 
they  must  be  at  no  great  distance  from  Paestum, 
and  as  we  find  a  hilly  district  immediately  to  the 


south,  we  may  conclude  that  these  must  be  the 
hills  that  were  formerly  called  Petilini.  Antonini 
(La  Lucania f  Napoli,  1795)  was  the  first  to  suggest 
this,  and  he  maintained  that  on  Mount  Stella,  the 
highest  point  of  this  ridge,  the  ruins  of  the  Luca- 
nian  Petilia  were  to  be  found.  I  was  aware  of 
this  opinion  before  I  left  Naples,  and  as  I  had  to 
pass  this  peninsular  district  on  my  way  to  the 
ruins  of  Velia,  I  determined  to  satisfy  myself  by 
personal  inspection  whether  there  appeared  to  be 
any  such  ruins  on  Mount  Stella,  On  my  way, 
after  leaving  PaBstum,  I  continued  to  inquire  of 
the  peasants  whether  they  were  acquainted  with 
such  ruins,  and  the  answer  was,  that  I  should  find 
them  on  Mount  Stella.  My  disappointment  may 
be  imagined,  when  on  reaching  the  pinnacle  I 
found  nothing  but  the  remains  of  a  small  monas- 
tery and  a  ruined  church,  where  mass  is  still 
celebrated  at  certain  times.  There  was  not  the 
slightest  appearance  of  there  ever  having  been 
any  village  at  this  spot,  and  indeed  the  height  is 
too  great  to  allow  us  to  suppose  that  it  could 
have  been  chosen  for  such  a  purpose.  The  want 
of  water  must  have  precluded  the  possibility  of 
its  being  so  selected.  Half  way  up  on  the  slopes 
there  are  the  remains  of  an  old  castle.  As  Anto- 
nini, however,  has  produced  (vol.  i.  p.  96)  several 
ancient  inscriptions  found  in  this  district  with  the 
name  Petilia,  there  may  have  been  such  a  village^ 
though  its  position  is  unknown. 

I  see  that  Mr.  Bunbury,  in  his  description  of  the 
Montes  Petilini  in  Smith's  Dictionaty  of  Greek 
and  Roman  Geography^  maintains  that  they  are 
the  mountains  lying  between  the  Bruttian  Petilia 
and  Consentia.  I  am  well  acquainted  vnth  that 
part  of  the  country,  and  cannot  believe  that  this 
IS  likely.  He  discards  the  Lucanian  Petilia  alto- 
gether, and  regards  the  Bruttian  Petilia  as  the 
city  or  village  to  which  Strabo  refers.  The 
mountains  of  which  Mr.  Bunbury  speaks  are  the 
highest  in  the  south  of  Italy,  and  are  seen  to  rise 
to  a  great  height  about  ten  miles  west  of  Stron- 
goli, covered  on  their  lowest  slopes  vnth  the 
Omus  etiropcea  and  Fraxinus  rotundifoliaj  from 
which  manna  is  procured.  These  mountains  were 
well  known  to  the  Homans  from  an  early  period, 
but  it  was  as  the  Sila,  which  name  they  still  re- 
tain. I  cannot,  therefore,  believe  that  these  were 
the  Montes  Petilini.  Mr.  Bunbury  thinks  that 
the  ancient  inscriptions  given  by  Antonini  are 
apocryphal,  and  of  course  if  this  be  the  case,  it 
cuts  the  ground  from  under  our  feet  in  regard  to 
the  second  Petilia  in  Lucania.  Yet  this  does  not 
settle  the  question  in  regard  to  the  Montes  Peti- 
Ihii,  to  which  Spartacus  retreated,  and  it  seems 
to  me  that  the  hilly  country  to  which  I  have  re- 
ferred immediately  south  of  Paestum  was  the 
natural  jcourse  which  defeated  forces  would  take. 

I  have  said  that  the  Silva  Sila  was  well  known 
to  the  Romans  from  almost  the  earliest  period, 


462 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4ti' S.  IX.  Jdvb  8,  "n 


that  tbcy  ramo  in  contact  with  its  inhabitants, 
and  it  wa?  to  find  them  much  in  the  same  wild 
state  tliat  they  have  ever  continuod.  I  know  not 
whether  tluTo  be  in  the  Italian  character  some- 
thing tliat  leads  them  naturally  to  a  life  of  bri> 
ganda<^fe,  but  twn  thousand  years  ago  the  insecurity 
of  life  and  property  was  the  same  as  it  has  been 
in  these  later  davs.  In  the  vear  B.C.  1*J8  Cicero 
{Brtd.  c.  ''I'D  tells  us  of  a  curious  trial  carried  on 
at  Home,  antiinjr  from  the  murder  of  some  of  the 
rich  proprietoi*s  in  this  district.  The  Publicani,  a 
joint-sU»ck  company  for  thi*  farminj^  of  the  public 
revenues  of  the  Roman  state,  hud  taken  on  lease 
the  pitdinriMfl  of  the  Silva  Sila  fn)m  tlie  censors 
of  B.C.  14i?,  P.  Scipio  Af'ricanus  and  L.  Mummius. 
This  part  of  Italy  w.xs  then,  as  now,  covered  with 
forests,  and  supplied  the  At<ito  with  pitch  and 
timber  fjr  ships.  Some  of  the  slaves  employed  by 
the  company  and  even  the  freemen  were  charged 
with  beinif  implicated  in  the  murders,  so  that  the 
directors  felt  that  they  themselves  might  be  blamed 
if  they  were  f«nmd  to  have  employed  servants  who 
could  be  jL^uilty  of  such  enormities.  The  senate 
issued  a  .special  commLssion  to  examine  tJiu  matter, 
and  the  celebrated  C  La-lius  was  emploved  to 
defend  the  company,  which  Cicero  tells  us  that  he 
did  with  great  ability.  ITo  appeared  twice  for 
them,  a'ld  .so  ubly  was  he  thouglit  to  have  main- 
tained tlit'ir  cause,  that  the  members  of  the  com- 
pany attended  La^lius  to  his  house — a  mode 
of  showintr  re«*peet  which  was  usual  at  Tiome. 
Through  his  exta-tinim  and  that  of  .Servius  Galba, 
the  company  and  members  implicated  in  the  charge 
were  acquit t^^d.  In  tliis  anecdote  regarding  the 
brigandage  of  Italy  two  thousand  years  ago,  it  is 
interestiiiLT  to  (ind  tlie  names  of  some  of  the  most 
illustrious  of  lier  sons  to  turn  up.  The  Scipio  here 
mentioned  was  the  "  Younger  Scipio,'*  who  de- 
stroyed (Jartiiage  B.C.  1 16,  four  years  before  he  was 
censor,  and  .Mummius  was  the  conqueror  of  Corinth 
the  same  yi'ar.  The  Lrolius  referred  to  has  ob- 
tained a!i  imperishable  m'onument  in  Cicero's 
treati?**,  [scJins  aIvo  de  Amiritin^  and  it  is  believed 
that  the  wit  and  idiom  of  Terence  were  pointed 
and  polished  by  his  and  Scipio's  conversation. 

Craufurd  Tait  Ramagb. 


SHAKKSPEARIANA. 


":Mr:i!RY  AVivKs,"  \,  1,  101— 

**  Anil  .so  conchisions  past  the  Car-eiros.*' 

"Were  it  not  for  the  nii.s-.«*pelling  of  the  old  edi- 
tions, there  seems  no  ditheulty  in  this  passage, 
and  I  consider  it  to  be  settled  that  Car-eires  := 
careers,  Sliakesj^eare  is  fond  of  using  the  manege^ 
phrase  metaph(n-ically,  but  he  has  not  used  it 
elsewhere  in  the  exact  sense  of  drunken  eccen- 
tricities. Neither  have  his  commentators'  (so  far 
OS  I  know)  adduced  any  passage  exactly  parallel 


to  that  of  The  Mmry  Wives.  In  the  fdUowig 
quotation  (from  A  Piece  of  Friar  Bacon^s  Bnamr 
head's  Pn^hesie,  reprinted  in  vol.  ir.  of  HtifitffB 
£arh/  Popular  Poetry)  I  think  I  have  hit  upaa  an 
exact  parallelism — 

*'  Now  John,  and  Joane,  and  Madge^ 
Can  moke  no  merry  Cme, 
The  baily,  with  his  badge. 
So  braves  it  in  his  blue ! 
None  diure  diicharge  a  Carter 
For  fcare  of  nuuster  officier.*' 

(L.  359,  p.  38U) 

If  the  meaning  of  the  above  rerse  be  not  derw, 
compare  it  with  the  contrastinp  yeiBe  of  Tim 
Was  on  p.  272-3  of  Hazlitt's  fourth  Tolume. 

John  Addis,  M.A. 

<*  Stand  on  Sympathy." — 

"  Aum.  Prince!*  and  noble  lonls, 

What  answer  shall  1  make  to  this  bnM  man  ? 
Shall  I  itn  much  dishonour  my  fair  Btars, 
<')n  equid  terms  to  give  him  chastisement  ? 
Kither  I  must,  or  have  mine  honour  soil'd 
With  the  attainder  of  his  slanderous  lips. 
Tliere  is  my  ^af;i%  the  manual  seal  of  death. 
That  marks  thee  out  for  hell :  I  say,  thou  li»t. 
And  will  maintain  what  thou  hast  said  is  fal^e 
In  thy  heart-blof)d,  though  beinj;  nil  too  baic 
To  stain  the  temper  of  my  knightly  swonl. 

Bnling.  Bagot,  forbear:  thou  shalt  not  take  it  ap. 

Aum,  Excepting  one,  1  would  be  were  the  beat 
In  all  this  presence  that  hath  moveil  me  so. 

/7/z.  If  that  thy  valour  stand  on  9ympathy, 
There  Is  my  gage,  Aumerle,  in  gage  to  thine." 

Richard  11,  Act  IV.  Sc.  1. 

In  this  passage  Shakespeare  uses  the  wool 
fympaihj  (in  the  folio  sifmpaihise)  in  a  sense  di& 
furent  from  its  ordinary  acceptation.  Dr.  Johnr 
son  says ;  — 

**  Aumerle  has  challengeil  Bagot  with  some  benUtiaBr 
as  not  being  his  equal ;  and,  thexvfure,  one  wbnm,  aoomd- 
ing  to  the  rulcn  of  chivalry,  he  was  not  obliged  to  flght, 
a#  a  nobler  lite  was  not  to'be  staked  in  a  duM  against  a 
baser.  Fitzwaltcr  then  throws  down  his  gage,  a  pMge 
of  b:ittlc  ;  and  tells  him  that,  if  he  stands  upon  t^pe- 
thics,  that  is,  npon  ofiuality  of  blood,  the  combat  la  mm 
nffurccl  him  by  a  man  of  rank  not  inferior  to  hia  ova. 
Sviiipathv  is  an  affection  incident  at  once  to  two  snl^Mta. 
This  community  of  affection  implies  a  likeness  or  equality 
of  nature,  and  thence  our  ]ioet  transferred  the  ton  tb 
equality  of  blood.'* 

But  this  word  sympathy  is  used  in  a  mmUv 
sense  by  Lyly  in  his  EuphueSj  as  the  followiDf 
extract  will  show :  — 

*'  Nature  recompensed  ye  diasimilitudo  of  minda^  with 
a  tympathy  of  bodies,  for  *wc  were  in  all  parta  so  like  the 
other,  that  it  was  hard  to  distinguish  either  in  spiadh. 
countenance,  or  height,  one  from  the  other :  aaving  tlut 
either  carried  the  motion  of  his  mind,  in  his  mamMn. 
and  that  the  affects  of  the  hart  were  bewrayed  bf  tie 
eves,  which  made  us  knowen  manifestly." 

Here  the  word  sympaihy  also  evidently  aignifis 
similitude  or  equality.  W.  L.  RuHUTlur. 


4*S.IX.  Ju2Ie8,'72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


463 


**CbtHavock":  Shakspere*s  "Julius  CiESAR.'* 
'In  Sir  Travers  Twi^s's  Black  Book  of  the  Adtni- 
rally  (pp.  28(),  462)  occur  two  Englished  versions 
of  Henrv  V.'s  Latin  **  Statutes  and  Ordinaunces 
to  be  keped  in  tirae  of  AVerre,"  1410,  MS.  temp, 
Edw.  IV.,  and§  12  is  — 

**  The  peyne  of  hym  that  cryeth  havok  and  of  them 
that  f«;lloweth  hym,  e  titulo,  &c.  Item  si  quis  inventus 
ftierit  qui  clamorera  inceperit,  qui  vocatur  havok.^* 

§  12.  "  Also  that  no  man  be  so  hardy  to  cry  havoky 
upon  i)eyne  that  he  that  is  be^^'nner  shal  be  deede  ther- 
fore,  and  the  remanent,  that  doo  the  same  or  folow,  shal 
lose  their  horse  and  hameis  ;  and  the  personncs  of  suche 
as  followeth  and  escricne  shall  be  under  arrest  of  the 
conestable  and  marcschalle  warde,  unto  tyme  that  they 
have  made  i'yiw  and  foundc  suretie  no  more  to  offende, 
and  his  body  in  prisonc  at  the  kynges  wylle." 

The  next  section  is  ajrainst  unlawful  cries  or 
alarms,  such  as  ^'  mount,"  and  the  punishment  of 
those  who  beprin  them.  That  these  cries  were  for 
the  purpose  of  calliu'r  out  men  falsely  for  attack 
or  plundoriiitj  expeditions,  and  not  to  create  a 
panic  and  fli'rht,  is  evident  from  Shokspere's  use 
of  ^^ciThavock.''  F.  J.  F. 


LONDON  STREET  SAYINGS. 

Perhaps  some  of  my  fellow  readers  would  help 
me  to  complete  a  very  imperfect  list  that  I  have 
drawn  up  of  the  London  street  sayings  of  the  last 
forty  yearn.  These  phrases,  which  are  sometimes 
lines  of  popular  songs,  occasionally  tags  from  farces, 
often  bits  of  fantastic  adaptable  nonsense,"  are  not 
without  a  certain  interest  to  the  student  of  manners. 
They  mark  the  popularity  of  many  forgotten  books, 
songs,  and  plays,  and  exemplify  certain  phases  of 
English  humour.  1  do  not  think  that  in  any 
other  European  city,  except  Paris,  is  the  habit  of 
using  these  current  sayings  so  prev.alent  as  it  is 
in  London ;  but  this  opinion  may  probably  only 
arise  from  my  imperfect  knowledge  of  other 
cities :  — 

**So  much  for  Buckingham"  (1836).  A  well-known 
line  from  Cilibcr's  version  of  liidmrd  III,  .  Edmund 
Kean,  tvIio  had  made  it  one  of  his  finest  points,  died  in 
1833. 

*•  Nix  my  Dolly  pals  "  (1839).  Part  of  the  chores  of  a 
song  in  Ainsworth's  Jack  Sheppard.  The  song  ia  said, 
upon  good  authority,  to  have  been  written  by  the  late 
Mr.  Charles  Dicken.s. 

**  I  believe  you,  my  boy."  A  line  from  the  play  of 
Jack  Sheppard,  which  Paul  Bedford  used  to  give  in  a 
very  unctuous  and  effective  manner. 

"  All  my  eye  and  Betty  Martin"  (Beate  Martine).  A 
medi:eval  schoolboy's  perversion  of  a  Roman  Catholic 
prayer. 

**  Who  stole  the  donkey?"  A  joke  on  the  material 
supposed  to  be  used  for  white  hats  at  the  time  that 
Orator  Hunt  and  other  leading  Radicals  wore  them  as 
badges  of  party. 

"  That's  tlie  ticket  for  soup."  Probably  about  the  time 
of  the  starting  the  Mendicity  Societj'.  The  oripfinal 
slang  phrase.  "That's  the  ticket,"  is  said  to  have  been 
first  used  by  Spiller,  on  seeing  a  benefit  ticket  that  Ho- 
garth had  etched  for  him. 


•*  How's  your  mother  ?  "  Quoted  by  Albert  Smith  in 
one  of  his  early  medical  student  articles  in  Punchy  1841. 

**  Has  your  mother  sold  her  mangle  ?  "  (1841). 

"Jump  Jim  Crow"  (1839).  Rice  appear-d  at  the 
Adelphi,  and  started  the  "nigger"  nuisance  in  1^.j9. 

"  Jim  along  Josey."    Same  period. 

"  How  are  you  off  for  soap  ?  " 

**Go  it  you  cripples."  Sounds  like  Moncri-^lf's  Ttm 
and  Jerry. 

"  All  round  my  hat "  {circa  1830).    A  line  of  a  song. 

"  Tou  don't  lodge  here,  Mr.  Fergusson."  A  line  in  a 
farce. 

"  Ilookv  Walker."    Same  period. 

"  Hope'  I  don't  intrude."  The  tag  in  Poole's  Paul 
Pry. 

"  There  you  go  with  your  ej-e  out."  Same  period ; 
perhaps  a  joke  on  eye-glasses. 

"  Before  you  can  say  Jack  Robinson."  A  line  from  a 
capital  song  of  Hudson's. 

**  Does  vour  mother  know  you're  out  ?  "  {circa  1840). 

"  Bravo*,  Rouse ! " 

**  Do  you  see  any  green  in  my  eye  ?  " 

"  Who  shot  the  dog  ?  "  Earh'  volunteer  movement. 
The  poor  were  indifferent  to  it. 

"  Who's  your  hatter  ?  '* 

"  Gret  inside,  and  pull  up  the  blinds."  To  a  cockney 
ridinji?. 

**  Not  in  these  boots."    A  year  or  two  ago. 

"  I  would  I  were  with  Nancv."    Music-hall  song. 

"  What !  the  same  old  hat  ?'" 

"Not  for  .foe!" 

"  Like  a  birt." 

"  All  serene  1 " 

"  How's  your  poor  feet  ?  " 

"  Fox  we  are  so  awfully  clever." 

"  Run  him  in." 

"Not  for  thU  child." 

"  Not  to-day,  baker." 

**  Just  like  Roger."    The  last  saying. 

WaXTEE  TnORNBURY. 


Music-hall 


■ong. 


ON  THE  LOAN  OP  BOOKS  EfURING  THE 
MIDDLE  AGES. 

From  an  article  in  the  Bihliotheque  de  VEcole 
des  Chartesj  by  M.  Delisle,  we  learn  that  this 
generous  practice  was  by  no  means  rare  during 
the  period  specified.  The  exorbitant  price  of 
books  (MSS.)  and  the  wretched  circumstances  of 
the  times  put  it  out  of  the  power  of  many  of  the 
clergy  to  obtain  the  books  necessary  for  the  pro- 
secution of  their  studies  except  by  loan.  In  such 
a  state  of  things^  the  monastic  libraries  often 
opened  their  treasures  for  the  assistance  of  needy 
priests;  for  it  was  considered  one  of  the  moat- 
meritorious  works  of  mercy  to  lend  out  books  on 
such  occasiona  It  is  true  that,  to  be  exempted 
from  doing  this,  the  books  in  many  monastic 
establishments  were  placed  under  anatnema ;  that 
is,  they  could  neither  be  lent  nor  borrowed,  imder 
pain  of  excommunication.  This  selfish  severity 
was  so  little  in  harmony  with  the  principles  of 
Gospel  charity,  that  it  was  formally  condemned 
by  the  Council  of  Paris  in  1212.  The  Fathers  of 
the  Council,  in  the  following  touching  language. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[iik&IX.  JnraS.7t 


ramind  tbc  Tarioua   religious  orden  that  the; 
ought  to  cberieh  mote  charitable  sentimeata;  — 

"  Nous  leur  lUrendona  lie  jurer  qu'Ufi  n«  prSleront  pii 
kon  litToi  aux  pauvres :  car  1«  pret  eat  una  <]«■  princi- 
palis rnuvrei  de  mUiiriconle.  Aou*  roulona  qa'aprti 
un  tiiieax  examvn  les  livros  icueiit  divisA  en  deux 
d&ucai  Icl  uiu  rchteront  dans  la 
rin  rri'ru ;  leu  aatrea  aerant  ptetei 
VKvii  dD  I'A1.U',  ijui  veillcrn  k  ci 
niabUHi  ns  suit  pas  l<M.  Ijuc  dcso.. 
soit  plarc  >oiis  raiiattiOincT  Koua  annnlDHi,  d'autn 
part,  tmu  Ici  anaClii'mH  pordid  par  le  piuw." 

M.  Dclisle  quotes  also  from  a  document  which 
ho  found  among  the  archivcB  of  the  Seine-Inffi- 
rieure,  contuining  uiunioraindn  made  b;  the  trea- 
surer or  librnrian  of  the  abbej'  of  Soint-OueQ, 
lelattDg  to  the  loan  of  books  belongmg  to  the 
convent;  and  among  them  were  nionv  law  booig, 
Biblt's,  commentnriea  on  the  Hcriptures,  Fathers 
of  the  CLuT<:h,  Uvea  of  fiaiuta,  and  one  Latin 
claBsic— Cicero's  I)c  Officiit. 

Anions  the  borrowers  it  might  he  expected  we 
•fiould  find  some  of  the  pnor  clergy,  whoso  in- 
terests ^'ute  so  warmlj  defended  at  the  Council 
of  Paris ;  but  instead  of  thoin  we  diwover  the 
names  of  the  Deau  and  Choir-master  of  the  cathe- 
dral, the  Bishop  of  Beauvws,  and  even  the  Arch- 
bishop of  Itoucn.  Jons  Uac&at. 
Oxfard. 


ItUKLEY  FAMILY. 
Sir  Thomas  I-yttelton  (or,  as  hia  Dame  is 
usually  written,  LilCleliH\  the  famous  author  of 
the  Tenmcf,  ii  stated  to  have  married  Joan, 
daughter  and  coheiress  of  William  Burlev  bj 
Ellen  bin  wife,  the  daughter  and  heiress  of  John 
Oreodon,  of  (irendon,  co.  StalVord.  "  This  Mr, 
Builey,"  says  Bishop  Lvttelton  (in  the  account  of 
his  family  printed  in  Calliuit  Peeragf,  edit.  1779), 
"  was  of  the  sumo  hnuM  with  Sir  William  Burler,  Wardtn 
of  the  Ginqnu  I'arla.  Condtabk  uf  l)i  '>-->- 
Knight  of  the  UbtT-  '  "''  " 
Ridiard  iras  alto  Ki 
BuiIey,  ibcir  father. 

But  ill  the  third  volume  of  The  Topographfr 
and  Geiifuloi/itl  (p.  JSG)  is  a  pedigree  of  3urley, 
contributed  l)y  the  late  well-known  Salopian  gene- 
alogist Mr.  Georf.'O  Morris,  from  which  it  appears 
that  Joan  Littleton  was  the  daughter  and  co- 
heiress of  Sir  Jolin  Burloy  of  Itromcroft  Castle, 
sheriH'of  Shropibira  in  1409,  by  Juliana,  daughter 
of  Eeginald  liord  Urey  of  Ruthin,  and  the  grtrnd- 
daughter  of  another  Sir  John  of  Bromcroft,  by 
Alice,  8i^ale^  and  heiress  of  Waller  I'embridge  ; 
and  that  the  father  of  Sir  Richard  Burie^'K.G., 
was  Sir  Jioi/er  Burley,  K.G.,  and  not  Sir  John. 

The  good  Homer,  we  know,  sometimea  nods; 
and  it  appears  to  me  that  Mr.  Morris  has  here 


left  out  a  generation.  The  father  of  Joan  littb- 
ton  is  generally  auppoaed  to  have  baen  William 
fiurlej  (son  of  Jolui,  who  was  aheriff  in  1400), 
which  WiUiam  was  sheriff  in  1426,  and  tjpeakar 
of  the  House  of  Commons  in  1430  and  1443. 

The  arms  set  up  in  the  Inner  Temple  Hall  ibi 
Sir  Thomas  Littleton  have,  turfout,  an  escatdiMO 
of  pretence  of  four  quarters  —  I.  Burley,  oKct 
Mylde;  2.  Burley;  3.  Pembridge;  4.  Grendon. 
And  the  same  quarterings  occur  in  the  lain 
atchievement  of  Lvttelton  in  Fiankley  chmu, 
Worcestershire  ;  only  Nash  (who  is  alwaya  blnn- 
deling  in  bis  heraldry)  attributes  the  coat  of 
Pembridge  (Barry  or  and  azure,  %n  a  bend  gnlti 
three  mullets  armat)  to  ''  Grey  of  Rythyn," 
whose  arms  it  slightly  resembles.  The  moniuneat 
of  Sir  Thomas  Littleton,  in  Worceatoi  cathedral, 
also  displayed  the  arms  of  Mylde  aliat  Buriaj', 
impaling  Grendon,  and  the  tame  arms  impaling 
Grey  of  Ruthin  (Barry,  on  a  bend  three  mant- 
lets) ;  these  were  destroyed  during  the  civil  wan. 
These  quarterings  and  impalements  seem  thsi»- 
fore  to  prove  that  Joan's  mother  was  a  GrendaI^ 
her  grandmother  a  Grey  of  Ruthin,  and  her  great- 
grandmother  a  Pembridge.  But  there  is  some 
obscurity  in  the  Burley  pedigree  which  soma  cor- 
respondent of  "  N.  &  Q.''  may  be  able  to  clear  up. 
Sir  Simon  Burley,  E.G.  (who,  according  to 
Mr.  Morris,  was  a  son  of  Sir  John  Builoy,  K.O. 
and  uncle  of  Sir  John,  who  married  tha  heuOM  of 
Pembridge)  died  without  issue,  and  John  BoiIbt 
was  found  to  be  his  cousin  (consanguinena)  asa 
heir.  This  John  Burley  was  the  son  and  heir  of 
Roger  Burley,  byl  Alice,  afterwards  married  to 
Sir  Richard  Arundel,  Knt.  He  married  a  lady 
named  Margaret,  and  died  in  7  Henry  VI.  (143^ 
leaving  issue  a  son  and  heir,  William  Burley,  thra 
aged  five,  wlio  died  without  issue  in  1516. 

I  Alice  Lady  Arundel  (whose  maiden  name  has 
not   been   discovered)   died   in    15   Henry  VIL, 

.  seised  for  life  of  the  manor  of  Burley,  in  tha 
county  of  Hereford,  the  reversion  of  which  at  her 
death  was  in  William  Burley,  the  eon  and  heir  d 
her  deceased  sin,  John  Burley.  She  and  her  hiu- 
band  Aruudel  had,  it  seems,  obtained  from  the 
king  a  grant  of  the  custody  of  all  the  landa  which 
were   Roger   Burley's,   and   also    all    the    landl 

:  which    were   Sir   Simnn    Barley's,   which   wen 

i  in  the  king's  bands  by  reason  of  the  minori^ 
of  the  heir.  Thi^se  particulars  I  take  from  u 
article  in  the  Cullndaaea  Topoffraphia  el  Gatta- 
logica,  vol  vi.  pp.  9,  7,  and  19.  Were  there  two 
Sir  Simons?  tVhat  is  known  of  the  coat  called 
"  Mylde,  aUa»  Burley  "  (Argent,  a  lion  rampant 
sable,  debruised  by  a  fesae  cheeky  or  aad 
azure)  ?  It  appears  to  have  been  home  \ij  Jon 
Littleton's  father :  but  John  Barley,  abuiff  of 
Shropshire  in  140D,  is  said  to  have  boRM  Vei^ 
three  hoars'  heads  couped  argent,  in  allnnoa  to  hit 
name  Borelyj  and  a  coat  resembling  1'    " 


4«»  S.  IX.  June  8,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


465 


was  borne  by  Sir  Richard  Burley,  K.G.,  which 
succeeds  Mylde  in  the  inescutcheon  on  the  arms 
of  Judge  Littleton.  In  Dalla way's  Heraldry  is 
represented  a  seal  purporting  to  be  that  of  Sir 
Simon  Burley,  K.G.  It  has  no  legend,  but  the 
impalements  show  that  it  really  belonged  to  his 
brother  Sir  Ilichard,  K.G.  (or  perhaps  to  Sir 
Richard's  wife  ?),  who  married,  according  to  Mr. 
Morris,  Beatrice,  relict  of  Thomas  Lord  Ros,  and 
daughter  of  Ralph  Earl  of  Stafford.  The  shield, 
which  is  heater  shaped,  is  divided  per  pale  into 
three  compartments ;  the  centre  exhibits  the  chev- 
ron of  Stafford,  the  dexter  the  waterbougets  of 
Ros,  and  the  sinister  the  Mortimer-like  coat  of 
Burley.  The  family  held  the  manor  of  Burley 
under  the  Mortimers,  for  which  reason  probably 
they  adopted  a  coat  resembling  that  of  their  suze- 
rains;  but  "  Mylde'*  is  a  mystery  to  me  at  pre- 
sent. The  heraldic  dictionaries  ascribe  it  to 
''  Milde  of  Suffolk,"  whose  heiress,  I  suppose,  one 
of  the  Burleys  must  have  married. 

II.  Sydney  Grazebbook. 

Stourbridge. 

P.S.  I  notice  that  in  Burke's  Peerage  and 
Armory  the  coat  of  Talbot,  quartered  by  Lord 
Lyttelton,  is  ascribed  to  Burley ! 


William  Bulleyn  on  Suffolk  and  Trttb 
Gentlemen. — This  quaint  old  writer,  in  his^ooA^ 
of  Simples,  loG2,  under  "  Mislen,"  "  Misseldine," 
or  "  Misseltow,"  fol.  50,  has  a  passage  on  Suffolk 
and  its  gentlemen,  which,  if  it  has  not  been 
quoted  lately,  may  please  some  of  the  Suffolk 
leaders  of  •*  N.  &  Q.":  — 

^*  Marcellus. 

"What  is  the  vertne  of  Mislen,  growing  vpon  Thomes, 
Peretrees,  &  Okes,  wherof  I  haue  seene  great  plenty 
growinj?  in  the  countrye  of  Suffolke,  with  many  goodly 
herbes  and  flowers :  as  in  these  most  auncient  rarkes  of 
Framingham,  Kelshal,  Xettlestede,  Lethringham,  Par- 
ham,  Somel,  Ileningham,  AVestwood,  Iluntingfeeld,  Hen- 
ham,  little  Glcnham,  and  Benhal,  <S:c.  These  Parkes  be 
old  neighbors:  God  send  them  continual  frendship  with 
eche  other  in  vnity,  for  where  as  vnity  is  broken,  the 
Parke  pule  wil  not'  huld,  but  fal  into  sodayn  ruine  and 
decay,  and  the  Dere  wil  scatter. 

•*  JIUarius. 

"  I  know  the  places  which  you  have  named  right  well. 
Purtherniorc,  I  commend  your  good  zeale  that  j'ou  beare 
to  that  worthy  country,  wishing  their  continual  vnity 
and  concord.  I  desire  tlie  same.  For  they  be  people  of 
no  lesse  ciuility  then  of  most  auncient  good  fame  and 
worship,  descended  from  houses  of  fame,  worthy  of  me- 
mory :  I  meane  no  parkes,  but  people,  not  theym  which 
haue  crept  vndcr  a  goose  wyng,  drawing  forth  a  bastarde 
sworde  no  longer  then  a  wry  ting  pen,  fyghtyng  their  com- 
bate  vppon  the  backsyde  of  a  shcte  of  paper,  to  the  hurte 
of  many  perhaps  and  profyte  of  none,  but  to  theimselues 
onely.  But  of  them  speake  I,  whose  blood  hath  bene 
ehed  in  the  iust  quarel  of  their  Prynces ;  whose  houses 
be  builded  vppon  hard  rockes,  of' true  gotten  goodes; 
whose  dores  be  open,  keping  hospitality  accor£ng  to 
their  callyng,  who  with  the  loue  of  the  country  gard 


themselues,  and  with  instice  defendeth  causes  of  the  pore. 
These  be  they  which  be  worthy  of  laud,  that  thus  feareth 
god :  these  be  the  right  gentlemen :  otherwyse  not" 

F.  J.  F. 

'^  Old  Tom  Gbeen."— The  worthy  blacksmith 
bearing  the  above  sobriquet,  and  at  whose  expense 
the  foUowing  rhyme  was  composed,  flourished  in 
this  neighbourhood  at  the  early  part  of  the  present 
century ;  and  being  a  harmless,  albeit  a  humorous 
celebrity  in  his  immediate  sphere  of  life,  attracted 
the  notice  of  those  pert  lads  and  tiresome 

"  Hobbydehoys 
Neither  men  nor  boys," — 

who,  having  nothing  better  to  do,  amused  them- 
selves by  teiasing  and  practically  joking  with  the 
poor  old  fellow.  His  tormentors  would  repeat 
with  unction,  and  at  the  top  of  their  voices  — 

**  Old  Tom  Green*s  as  bold  as  a  lion, 
Has  a  very  large  shop,  and  very  little  iron ; 
A  large  pair  of  bellows,  and  very  few  coals. 
And  the  shop  that  he  works  in's  all  full  of  holes." 

''  Vulcan  "  would  often  run  out  after  the  young 
scapegraces,  brandishing  may-be  a  piece  of  red- 
hot  iron,  with  which  he  would  threaten  to  bum 
the  whiskers  off  their  "cusnation  young  eyebrows"; 
but  they  knew  well  enough  that  he  was  too 
tender-hearted  to  hurt  them — thus  the  continued 
treatment.  J.  Pebbt. 

Waltham  Abbey. 

Chaucer:  "Dethb  op  Blaunche." — ^To  my 
note  on  «  Fortune  "  («  N.  &  Q."  4^'»  S.  ix.  339)  1 
wish  to  append  the  following  apposite  quotation 
from  Sir  Tnomas  Overbury's  Characters  (**  A  faire 
and  happy  Milkmayd")-*> 

'* .  .  .  .  when  winter  evenings  fall  early  (sittinp;  at 
her  merry  wheele)  she  sings  a  defiance  to  the  giddy 
wheele  of  fortune." 

Overbury  is  leavened  throughout  with  Shake- 
speare. John  Addis,  M.A. 

An  old  Winchesteb  Epigbam. — When  I  was 
at  Winchester  College,  nearly  eighty  years  ago,  it 
was  the  custom  of  the  head  master  to  hear  the 
first  class  go  througb  their  lesson,  and  then  giro 
them  a  subject  on  which  they  were  to  make  an 
epigram,  without  having  pen  or  paper,  while  he 
went  to  hear  the  second  class ;  he  then  returned 
to  the  first  class  to  hear  the  epigrams  they  may 
have  made.  On  one  occasion  all  the  boys  of  the 
first  class  gave  their  epigrams  but  one ;  the  head  ^ 
master  called  on  him  for  his  epigram.  (The  sub- 
ject given  had  been  '^  Foemina  dux  facti.'')  The 
07  s^med  to  hesitate,  as  if  he  had  not  been  able 
to  concoct  anything  like  an  epigram^  and  drawled 
out :  — 

**  Fcemina  dnx  facti.    Dux  fiicti  foemina !    Qnid  torn  ? 
Quid  tarn?    Tom  fkcti  foemina  dux  fait.    O." 

F.  C.  P. 

Db.  Dollikgeb^s  ''Fables  bespecting  the 
FpPES." — There  is  a  little  error  in  the  translation 


i' 


nil.  i  "'  ■  ..'lii-it'ii  :.-  I't  tii-  L'li  •'•::- hi  •';.' .r,  it 
Cnii.'t-',  ;"i"  "(T'lwii  nf  nil',""  •^■.■;i.!!  ni'ifiir- 
ill  \)-\.\  i'.  ■;!.'■  Jiriii-  'irS.iX'inv.  I  ..:;;  ;i!  ;•.  !■■—  In 
kn'«v.-  \vii:i:  i-  ni'-.ini  l>\  '•  iln-  vii'i:i:i  ■■:'  tii-  «»-■!;- 
briK'k  anil.,"  iuul  .^u.-in'ct  an  «'rri»r  li-T'-  aN  •.  i-Mt. 
with  'lit  til'-  (ii.-rmiiii  tfxt  bofur*'  ni'-,  il-  i.<»;  \<n- 
tiir*'  t'  •  vjirfv^  fin  (»]union  u>  t-i  v/lii.-li  is  r-  -ji  mi- 

sibk'  f''»i   it.   Mr.  riiimni'T  it  tin-   ^ rubl"   I>r. 

lJi»llin;jfr.  'Ill''  arms  of  ( ).siiabriu'i{  ar-  nTiainiy 
not  a  vir-in.  Tlu'V  mm  ulnn».st  idt-ntiriil  with  lli'i-.' 
of  tb«-  »'i»i"torat»3  and  sou  of  .Miivmci',  whit-li  ar.-, 
^u.  a  \\\i'  *:\  arj:.  ;  thnjjo  of  tlie  sim-  nf  <  )>.iial»ria'k 
b(iin;r.  ai-.  a  wheel  j:u.  It  is  jjoisihlt*  tliat  thtTt- 
maybf  .-  -iip-  confu>ii>ii  betwiM.-n  *'>nin!iinL'  win  i*!" 
ami  ••  -T  iij-ii'r"  Iuti;.  JCvurvniu'  kn-iws  th" 
"  rr.iwn  .  l"  rm.;"  IfL^iMul :  uiul  the  st^rv  i>  int'Tf-t- 
injjr  whiili  i-.-lali's  how  tin*  arms  «»f  MavfiHM*  <'i»iii- 
mein'-ra:"-  th',-  Arrh biffin »{>  \Villi;ris,  tin-  ."un  .if  a 
wbeehviiu'.i.  wht),  Ihat  ho  ini^'ht  nfV«»r  fcir^'-i-t 
auiid  ill  >ii;rnihiur  nf  his  ecclesiastic.!  1  and  h^vw- 
IftT  di;:iiil:.-  the.  eiwlini'ss  uf  bis  ))irth.  had  lii.-i 
cbniiibei  painted  with  th''  devie»»  \^(.  the  niill- 
wherl.  iW'A  the  ninu..,  *<  "\Villiu''i>  I  Willi^'i.- 1 
deinei"  .\!ikunirL  nieht  vor^iss!"  Tin-  OBnabruclv 
legend  im-  not  Cimp!  under  my  iii)tief;  ji.-rhiips 
some  r-Md^T  may  HU])}»ly  it.  .John  \V«ioi)\v.vi:i). 
St.  Mary'>  rarsonn^c,  Montrose. 

MrrM.  TriM,  i:r  Sitm  ;  on,  Kvlkv  Max  in-; 
Own. —  III  thr  ej)i;:rinninatic  aui))tjr  of  ••  N.  ,v  ^»." 
I  do  nor  hiid  the  f(dlowinjr,  extrae*»'d  from  Thi 
Nvu's,  1>LM*.,  p.  L>>^L> : — 

"Tin.  Aii-l.bisihop  of  Tu.im  ombark- il  nt  l.ivrp  ..-l  f-T 
Dublin,  la-t  \\'»ek,  in  tin*  St.  (Ij-or^e  sttaiii-]i;i'Ii'*t.     If  i-i 
nimouri.*!,  liut  we  Ud  imt  pUd^'r  our«i]v'>  tn  tli--  tairt.  ( 
that   tlnTi  was   tui   hoard  Ihi^  same  V'.«*-ji1  a  fMi«ir  iaL.'.:'.il      j 
IriAlniiaii.   wlio,  like  many  of  his  count rvnii-:].  h.*-!'!  a 
amatt'Tii  _  "l"  Latin,  whirli  \w  turiu'd  ti«  ratlH  r  a  Ur::ivi-h      | 
account,  l-y  ;..'niun;r  th*'  following  «ii::;iii.'aiit  »li'...  •■nl. 


4«>  a  IX,  June  8, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


467 


lairds  of  the  eighteenth  century  haying  recently 
appeared  in  '^  N.  &;  Q."  illustratiye  of  the  drinking 
haoits  Tvhich  seem  to  have  heen  inBeparably  con- 
nected with  such  ceremonials,  I  send  by  Ymy  of 
contrast  the  following  account  of  the  burial  of  a 
pauper,  extracted  from  the  statements  of  the  over- 
seers of  the  poor  for  the  township  of  Shire- 
brook,  parish  of  Pleasley^  Derbyshire,  for  the  year 
1726-7  :— 

**  for  one  going  to  order  the  Passing  Bell  to 

be  Bung 0    0    2 

for  one  going  to  Woodhonse  for  M'  (Sisp- 

pell  (the  rector) 0    0-2 

for  one  going  to  speak  for  the  CoiBn .  .008 
for  bread  &  drink  for  ym  yt  wonnd  her  .004 
for  wooll  for  a  Sbrond        .        .        .        .004 

for  a  Coffin 0    7    6 

for  bread  and  drink  at  the  fiorial  .  .090 
pdfbr  burial 0    2    O.** 

That  an  English  parish  shoiild  psjr  9».  for 
refreshments  at  the  burial  of  a  pauper,  is  equally 
preposterous  with  the  extravagant  wine  and  spirit 
bill  of  a  Scotch  gentleman.  As  a  guide  to  the 
proportionate  value  of  money  in  those  days,  I  may 
add  that^  in  the  accounts  for  that  same  ^ear,  a 
pair  of  shoes  is  charged  two  shillings,  wlulat  aiz 
shillings  purchased  *^  a  tun  of  koles.'' 

J.  Chablbb  Cox. 

Hazelwood,  Belper. 

Tennysoniaka. — I  notice  that  Mr.  Tennyson, 
still  holding  by  his  fixed  literary  habit,  is  dOently 
introducing  alterations  and  additiona,  even  to  the 
extent  of  entire  poems,  into  the  library  edition  of 
his  workS;  now  in.  course  of  ptrblioation.  Dare  I 
utter  one  word  of  remonstrance  to  the  illustrioos 
laureate  on  this  point?  AoceptiDg  this  latest 
issue  of  his  works  as  the  authors  own  edition,  I 
humbly  submit  that  it  was  but  &ir  and  reasonable 
to  expect  that  final  alterations  and  additions  would 
be  indicated.  Otherwise,  how  am  I,  and  how  are 
ten  thousand  other  students  of  English  literature 
in  distant  lands,  to  satisfy  ourselves  that  we  really 
possess  Tennyson's  Poems?  «  D.  BuLIB. 

Uelboume. 

LoBD  Kussell's  Betobt  ov  BuKDKtx.— The 
pleasant  article  on  '^  Bntish  Parliamentary  Elo- 
quence'' in  the  current  number  of  the  QuarUr^f 
records  an  admirable  retort  of  Lord  Buasell's  cm 
6ir  Francis  Burdett,  when  the  lattef,  after  tundog 
Tory  and  joining  the  Carlton  Club,  was  hardy 
enoujgh  one  night  to  sneer  at  '^  the  cant  of  pa- 
triotism." ^' The  cant  of  patriotiBm  is  a  oai 
thing/' said  his  lordship, /j  but  lean  '^U  J  a 
worse — ^the  re-cant  of  patriotisnL"  T  ji>a« 
not  original,  though  no  doubt  lis  '*' 
ao.    The  celebrated  Lady  Tm  ^ 

Etheldreda  Harrison,  mother  Oi  uto  •  *  -H  juhhu  . 
when  asked  if  it  were  true  that        il      m 
xoovrted,  replied, ''No       'M 


WILLIAM  HILTON  "  OF  BIDICKE,  OF  THE 
BI8H0P£IK  OF  DUKBSME"  IN  1662. 

Can  any  Durham  or  Northern  correspondent 
give  any  further  details  of  this  man's  iU-treatment 
of  the  old  medical  writer,  William  BuUeyn,  and  of 
Lady  Hilton,  than  Bulleyn  himself  supplies  P  He 
BAjs  in  his  Boa^  <rf  Sifnpks^  fo.  79  back— when 
wriling  of  milk  and  the  places  where  it  was  mostly 
used,  amonr  which  was  a  place  in  the  Mountagmes 

in  the  Norm  called  Alston  Moie — 

• 

**  This  country  was  somtime  the  land  of  a  worthy 
knight,  called  syr  Thomas,  the  Baron  of  Hylton,  to 
whom  I  dfldkiated.  mrlitfla  Booke  intituled  tiie  OoMni- 
mmi  nf  hftakk,  proDUiyng  in  the  same  Booke  to  set  ^ucth 
an  other  booke,  wheror  the  oopy  perished  with  my 
Bookea,  in  shipwraeke :  and  when  I  came  to  London,  to 
have  reoiaed  my  dead  book,  one  William  Hilton,  gw- 
tleman,  biolher  to  the  aayd  mnr  Thomas  Hilton,  aecSsed' 
me  of  AO  lean  orTmemoL  OK  moat  omal  murder  of  Us 
owne  brother,  who  dyed  of  a  Fener  (aent  onely  of  God) 
among  liia  owne  ttmoB,  fynkbing  liislyfe  in  tbeChristea 
fkytb.    Bat  this. William  Hilton  eaoaed  me  to  brar- 
rained  before  that  noble  Prince,  the  Dnkeo  grace  of  Nor- 
ffolke,  far  the  same :  to  this  eod,  to  hane  had  me  dyad 
shamcfiiUy:  Thatwith  the  couetonaAiiab  he  might  baaa, 
through  false  witnes  and  penury,  obtayned  by  the  eoan- 
sen  of  Jezabell,  a  Vineyard,  by  the  piyoe  of  blood.   3ut 
it  is  written,  TetiU  mmtdax  peribit,  a  lUae  witnes  ahal 
com  to  naught,  hit  wicked  practise  was  wisely  espyed, 
his  folly  deiyded,  his  bloody  purpose  letted,  and  fynauya 
I  was  with  Jualiae  didinavtd.    Notwithstanding,  yet  am 
I  by  the  same  William  Hihon  atil  moleM«d  andtioiihlad 
as  much  aa  lyeth  in  him,  to  shorten  my  dayea  by  »om» 
meaneo  or  aeddente,  who  with  nfither  lawful  pollicye,  nor 
false  testimony,  odd  he  therto  accomplish  his  wicked 
intent    Now  theifore  blame  me  not,  my  deare  Irend 
Marcel]  us,  though  this  num  be  remembred  in  my  booke 
heare  of  health,  and  preaeruing  of  lyfe,  seyng  I  was  som- 
tvme  in  his  booke  of  a  false  indightment,  conspyring  my 
death.    This  man  hath  letted  me,  in  ao  mudi  that  I 
cannot  run  to  the  marke  that  I  did  set  before  myna 
eyen ;  therfore  I  must  make  a  shorter  course,  fynialung 
with  fewer  things,  touting  not  vnprofitable  for  the  com- 
mon welth :  whose  profyte  I  doe  seeke,  and  more  would 
haue  dona.  thiafaisiMiiclous  fiu^as  excepted,  whose  rnaUea 
doth  the  uaaa  molest  mae^  b^mge  a  Stimnnger  to  htm, 
seynge  liae  hath  vexed  a  Ladye,  which  waa  his  onma 
BroChen  Wyfe^  whose  shame^  loses,  yaa  and  Bloode,  baa 
hath  aouglite :  whiehe  Brothers  Wyle  redeemed  motdh  41 
hya Lands  fromloaae^  in lend|yDg nim  a  great  Samma ef 
H ornrr.    And  when  tbia  man  dionld  tiiankAilly  haMi 
lepaT^d  fUs  lai^  bar  Hoafly,  than  he  crmliiyad  her  iite 
did  mae.    And  ao  to  coodnds,  you  that  an  gantViw 
beware  of  ahamefiil-ingKatituda,  wheraa  you  haue  reaped 
eomedity.   For  it  is  the  mpat  leprous  siofcnes  ^gqnMt 
nature,  to  dee  enO  lb>r  good,  jprafef  lyug  a  Httle  loere  b^ 
ibre  iionastv--  wnrlillv  wnMhffi.  ph«nM,  and  fjmaUy,  CMis 


wrath  or  i 


gUglflrv 

«iU       


M 


k I 


wydBsdnaa  agaiyiiMfe 
-..oraBdoth  degBMOii 
It  monstruonalyinto  aa 

,««  into  Ghurifrimes.    Vor 

-HMiifltiia 

I      e^  so  d 

.jHi  thvm. 


NOTES  AND  QUBBIES. 


[<>0  8.  IX.  JtmiCia. 


irho  hath  Ihuii  molMol  me,  profltnbla  to  ftwc,  and  noj- 
utmt  to  liimMlfe.    A  lourr  o(  few,  a  flalttrei  of  maDy,  a 

THsel  of  ifmiirancf,  ful  of  ingratitude,  vn natural  to  hit 
Children,  if  that  lie  rpovlcth  in  lawe.  ichiche  ulionld  be 
their  rtbefn;  and  thus  1  eomniend  hjm  to  Ihi-s  Cata- 
Iilaama,  lu bis  mnrtirted contcinicc.  Fsjlhlea and  ftnitlei 

F.  J.  Furs rv ALL. 


MAKCSCKIPT  HISTORY  OF  LOXDOS  ?  OK  OF 

THE  IXSS  OF  tOUKT  ? 
I  hftTe  in  IDT  pntise^ion  a  MS,,  much  dilapi- 
dnted,  -which  appcan  lo  baTC  been  ititended  for  a 
Historj  of  IxiDdnn  or  of  the  Inns  of  Court.  On 
the  fret  page  extant  there  is  a  derivBtion  of  the 
name  London,  in  which  Erasmus,  StephsnuB,  snd 
otliers  arc  quoted.  Further  od  London  ia  said  to 
be  "the  f;lorv  of  the  kingdoms  of  all  Europe,  the 
haven,  and,  ns  it  wi^ro,  the  mart-towne  of  the 
world."  We  have  nest  a  comparison  between 
London  and  I'aria,  in  which  it  ia  stated  that — 
"I/'nanii  is  the  richer; 

I.onJuu  ia  the  inure  ancient." 

The  writer,  however,  ia  aniions  "  to  give  unto 
the  city  of  I'arie  its  proper  due  without  ufiecta- 
tion,"  and  ndde  that — 


The  lending  chnracb'ristics  of  several  other  nties 
are  quaintly  given  us  foliowa; — 
"  1.  JEomo  for  leliciun. 
&  NapIcafornuUlitie, 

5,  Uillaine  (Milan)  for  beauty, 
4.  FiorMiw  tur  pollicie, 

li.  Uvnua  for  (tateliiMwe, 

6.  Vcnico  for  rltehea." 
London  w  further  said  to  he— 

"  The  pur^ntorie  of  tervanti^ 

The  hi-11  fur  hostea. 

The  paraitiso  for  women." 
The  heraldic  bearings  of  the  church  of  St, 
Paul,  the  church  of  St.  I'eter,  Comhill,  and  of 
"  Doctor  Juhn  t'ulct,  dean  of  this  cathedral,"  are 
then  given  ;  und  these  are  followed  by  a  disserta- 
tion on  "The  (')ripii;ill  Ikpj'nnynge  of  the  Eng- 
IvBche  People,  mid  of  the  Kinaes  and  of  Lawes, 
&C."  ^'imrod,  l.'yrus,  Alexander,  and  Ninus  are 
noted  in  tlii;  miiT)^in  :  and  the  opinions  of  various 
authors  as  tu  liicigijiip,  laws,  &c.,  are  largely 
quoted  and  cuminented  upon.  All  this  is  followed 
by  an  essny  on  "  Thu  Bt'gynnyngo  of  l^wea  in 
general,''  and  another  on  "  The  Antiquitie  of  the 
Lawea  of  !l-)ngland.''  The  lattol  article  com- 
mences thus  : — "  It  is  written  that  Brute,  the  first 
kinge  of  this  island,  wrote  a  treatise  in  the  Greek 
tonge  intituled  I.tye»  Sritannorum,  which  were 
mostly  out  of  the  sapp  and  sweetnesse  of  the 
Trajan  lawea  in  Asia.''  The  writer  then  notice* 
tie  IttWB  in  exutence  beie  dtiring  the  leign  of 


ClaudiuB  Cnaar,  and  entera  lately  into  Ihom 
which  we  are  aud  to  have  derived  boia  tlm 
Druids.  The  progress  of  tbo  law  is  then  tiacad 
through  Saion  and  Norman  times  down  to  the 
leign  of  the  early  Stuarts,  and  the  writing*  of  tha 
principal  lawyers  are  noticed  in  detail.  "Statote 
L«wca  ordajned  by  Parliament  Courts  "  us  next 
considered,  and  the  usages  in  the  various  coniU 
are  slated  at  soma  length,  A  list  of  the  varioua 
"  officers  of  lawe,"  and  "  the  manner  of  creation 
of  a  professor  of  our  common  lawea,  anto  the 
estate  and  degree  of  a  seijeont  at  lawe,"  occur  in 
succeeding  pages.  The  Utter  portion  of  the  MS. 
appears  to  contain  rules  and  regulations  for  one  of 
the  inns  of  court  There  are  ^so  entries  concern- 
ing the  purchase  of  "  cloth  for  the  seijeants' 
hanitefl,"  &c.,  together  with  the  provisions  Berved 
at  some  of  the  tables.  The  abovi;  may  suffice  tar 
identification :  and  I  would  now  ask  whether  aay 
such  work  has  ever  been  printed ;  and  if  so,  what 
is  the  work,  and  who  was  its  author  ^ 

T.  T.  WlLKISSOS. 


Ballad:  Soito. — At  concerts  I  often  c 

"Ballad;  Mr. ";  "Song:  Mr. ."     Will 

one  of  your  readers  kindly  give  me  a  clear  defini- 
tion of  each  f  H.  a. 

[The  name  of  Ballad  u  of  Italian  oTi):ii]  (JuJlatt),  aad 
meant  originally  a  dincs-aong.  The  balJad  ii  a  Idod  of 
poem  very  difficult  to  characteriae.  in  the  courss  of  em- 
tnrifi  it  hai  undergone  various  traDifoniiations.  It  ia 
now  conaiderod  a  kind  of  popular  sunfc,  eoQtaining  tba 
rtdlal  of  (ome  action,  ailvenlure,  or  intrigue ;   aa  the 

deeds  of  narriom,  or  the  adventures  of  lovon, The 

term  Smv  is  spplind  (o  either  a  ahort  poetical  or  muical 
compoiition  ;  but  moat  frequentl}-  to  tiolh  in  anion.] 

Chaucer  Qubri. — There  are  two  allusiona  in 
Lvdgatc'a  poems  that  require  explanation : 

'l.  Who  was  "  Genty!  Molyns  *  F 

3.  What  is  "  the  Devynale  par  I'vcard  "  ? 

(1.)  I  would  suggest  that,  taken  in  conjunctiaa 
with  "  Sainte  Eleyne,"  tbo  reference  may  be  to 
Dame  Aliauore  Moliuce,  the  vrifc  of  Robert  Hiia- 
gerford,  who  was  created  Baron  Molines  in  her 
rifht  [1446-1403],  He  was  a  staunch  Lancas- 
trisn ;  his  grandfather,  the  first  l^rd  Hungerfiard, 
had  lived  on  terms  of  close  intimacy  with  John  m 
Gnunt,  who  conferred  spedal  favotits  on  the  town 
of  llungerford,  which  lies  in  the  nt^ighbourhood  of 
Donnington  Castle,  where  Thomas  Chaucer  is  aaid 
to  hove  resided.  The  latter  survived  till  1434-6 
(seo"N.&(i."4'*S.  iv,)i  but  was  not  the  period 
of  his  prosperity  afltr  Geoffrey's  death  ? 

3.  Has  "  Pycar^  "  any  reference  to  the  Philipps 

Pykard  of  4-3  Ed.  IIL,  who  was  lonfc  siippowd  to 

be  Geoflrey's  wife  P   The  coincidence  ia  oi  inteiMt. 

A.H. 

Chubch  Fawlt. — During  the  siege  of  Denr* 
Major  William  Church  was  killed  when  Inrimg 
a  sidly  againat  the  hemegcn,  and  his  mh  .... 


iU'S.IX  JoB««,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


469 


Church  was  wounded  in  tha  band  at  the  same 
time.  The  Irish  Churches  had  a  tradition  in  the 
laat  ceatuiy  that  their  forefathers  had  migrated, 
from  England.  Do  they  derive  from  the  Shrop- 
shire family,  whose  elder  hrench  has  run  out  into 
feraalea,  but  several  of  whose  younger  sons,  in 
more  than  one  generation,  are  unaccounted  for  in 
the  history  of  that  county  ?  W.  M.  H.  C. 

Mias  EnoAK  is  author  of  TranguiiSlff  and  othet 
Poertu,  and  Tramlatione,  8vo  {Dundee,  1810;  9nd 
edition,  1S24,  Edinburgh^  Can  any  one  give  me 
the  date  of  this  lady's  death,  or  any  farther  parti- 
culars respecting  her?  IbelieTeshewaaarelaliTO 
of  the  £ev.  Henry  Edgar,  minister  of  the  epts- 
copal  church,  Arbroath,  who  in  1769  was  eoaae- 
croted  as  coadjutor  to  Bishop  White.  Iffiahop 
Edgar  died  on  Aug.  23, 1768.  Among  the  nb- 
scribera  to  the  second  edition  of  Hiai  Edgar's 
Poem*  (1624)  I  find  the  names  of  Bishop  Lowe, 
Bii^op  Gleig,  Bishop  Sandford,  and  Sb  Walter 

Scott  B.  LfBLM. 

"  ExiBAOTfl  FKOH  A  JiABHATIVE,"  ITC. — Cu 

you  oblige  me  with  the  name  of  the  aatbor  of 
an  6to  volume,  published  in  London,  and  entitled 
'>  Extract!  fVom  a  NarritiTe  of  ths  C«u*enlim  af  an 
Aalatlc  Prince  to  tbe  Cbiiatian  Faith,  aad  from  Latten 
on  BsUgioos  Subjects,"  pp.  vill.  18S  ? 

No  date  is  given,  but  the  work  prohahly  ap- 
peared about  the  beginning  of  the  ]msent  cen- 
tury.   The  subscribere  were  chiefly  uish. 

Abhba. 

FlUi;>Hou>A.— In  an  article  of  The  CbmW) 
for  May,  1872,  on  "  Frau-Holda,  the  Tentoiie 
Ooddess,''  who  is  suppoaad  to  have  ^vea  her 
name  to  Friday,  allusion  ia  made  to  the  popular 
superstition  that  Friday  ia  an  unlucky  day,  iritli 
tbe  observation  that  in  soma  oooka  and  comen 
it  ia  still  considered  the  proper  day  for  marriage, 
thus  implying  a  traditionary  remembrance  of  ue 
goddeas.  I  have  made  a  large  collection  of  pro- 
Terbs,  but  have  never  yet  met  with  one  to  this 
effect,  and  should  be  obliged  to  any  of  your  con- 
tributors who  could  furnish  me  with  one.    A.  8. 


,  inet.     Hr.  WaUon,  the 

chamberlBJn   of  (ilaagow,  Mjs>'It  is  a  well-e^aUIi 

fact  that  nine-lenths  of  tbe  maniages  in  Glusow  an 

celebrated  on  Fridsy."  {"N.  i  Q."  2'*  8.  m.  49_li_4*  a 


Mabsabet  Habvet. — Can  any  of  your  New- 
castle readers  give  me  any  information  ngarding 
Margaret  Harvey,  author  at  Lay  of  the  Sluutrtet 
Daughter  (a  poem,  8vo,  1814),  ana  JfoNod^  m  Ua 
Prmctu  Charlotte,  1818  ?  She  also  wrote  .Boy- 
mond  de  Percy,  a  drama  in  three  acts,  18S2.  lUt 
play  was  performed  in  Sunderland. 

B.IirsuB. 


GoBrsxY  Hifloma.  —  This  learned  author  of 
Celtic  Bruiiii,  Anacalyptu,  Hone  Saiiattae,  Ac, 
died  in  the  year  1833  at  his  residence,  Skellow 
Grange,  near  lloncaster.  The  first  volume  of  Ana- 
adyptU  contained  a  biographical  slutch  of  Mr. 
HjgginB,hutnot  his  portrait;  for  hestatad,  "lam 
not  vain  of  my  personal  appearance,  and  toerefora 
I  shall  not  present  the  reader  with  my  likeneaa." 
The  Attntud  Biography  and  Obituary,  xviiL  43^ 
contained  a  memoir  of  Mr.  Higgins,  hat  no  por- 
trait of  him.  Is  there  one  to  be  seen ;  if  m,  in 
whoae  poaaeasion  ia  it  F  Chk.  Oooxb. 

London. 

Sib  Craslxb  VrLLAvnroi  Husboh,  Babi^— 
When  and  where  did  this  baronet  die,  and  where 
is  he  buried  P  It  waa  some  time  alxiat  165^  18S6, 
or  1866.    Who  were  hia  near  ralatiTea  F 


•  A.D.M61&,  a  falaa  Chrlat  anwt  in  th*  East  Indta^aad 
was  Ibllaval  by  tha  PoitngiuM  Jem." — Rtmark*  m  Et- 
dniatiieal  ni»brr$,  by  John  Jortin,  DJ}.,  ISOfi,  IL  190. 

From  what  authority  waa  the  above  atatement 
ierivBdF  B.  B.  W.  E. 

LntUBTRiova. — In  Whitelock'a  JfnnorMb,  p, 
^  fol.  1732,  thia  word  ia  naed  in  the  sense  <^m»- 
Umtiimal,  and  aa  the  exact  eqtuTalent  of  the  li^n 
d»  iHAatrid.     He  ana— 


I  ahall  be  glad  to  know  if  tbe  word  waa  com- 
monly V,<uw  At  tbia  period.    I  have  met  with 


D  otner  instance. 


EDnsn  Txw,  M.A. 


Tkx  Lonxjii  UHiTXBraiT,  —  Facnltiea  of 
"literature"  and  "Sdenee"  hare  bean  lately 
sstabliabed  br  this  floniiaking  Unirern^.  Thu 
ia  aa  it  sbotild  be.  Bnt  allow  me  to  aek  wbr  tlw 
same  Univenity  should  not  have  a  (hcii%  of 
Hoaic,  with  an  Academy  attached  to  it,  and 
sothonty  to  confer  tbe  degrees  of  Bachelor  and 
Doctor  of  MuBcF  Snidr  Limdoii  ia  a  more  snit- 
nble  school  for  mnalfi  notti  seotdar  and  eoda- 
daatie— than  the  Univontiea  of  Osf(»d,  Cam- 
brid^,  and  Durham.  It  te  all  Teiy  well  t» 
■*  Enight "  OUT  liOndon  munmans,  but  I  htUDUr 
<!OBoeiTe  that  if  degreea  in  mode  could  '"'■■fH 
inta  the  London  unlTendtj  Uie  bonoun  wonld 
be  of  more  Talw  than  any  legal  ouea. 

VlAXOB  (1). 

NuoLKor  AX  WATiBiAOkT-ftom  an  article  in 
the  last  .BJM«ryk  JImmv  H  appeua  tbat  tbe  lata 
Sir  Obute  BdL  Tiidlltw  the  ieU  of  Watadoo 
not  long  after  the  Itattto^  Ibtmd  still  remdaliy 
then  a  manbte  KaflbtcUni^  dxlT  feet  lud^  fhaa 
whioh  ^  o^tnr  kad  mn^jed  tfu  in«A  of  Ua 


470 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<i>S.IX  Juxb8,*72. 


fortunes.    Up  this  Bell  climbed,  and  afterwards 
thus  wrote : — 

''The  view  ma:;niiiceat.  I  was  only  one-third  up  the 
machine,  yet  it  wan  a  ^iddy  lieight.  Hero  Huonaparte  j 
atoofl  furwyini;  the  field.  ...  I  was  tille<l  wilh  i 
admiration  of  a  innu  of  his  habit  of  body  who  could  sUuil  \ 
perched  on  a  height  of  sixty-five  feet  above  everything,  I 
and  conteuipluti',  hee,  and  manage  such  a  scene." 

Moat  people  picture  '^Napoleon  at  Waterloo"  , 
in  a  verv  (iiiltTfUt  attitude  from  that  which  Sir  ' 
C.  Bell  had  in  his  mind.     It  would  be  most  in-  ! 
tere^tin^'-  to  lourn — and  there  nmst  be  many  who 
can  tell  us — all  about  this  curious  machine^  and 
particularly  the  use  actually  made  of  it  by  the 
emperor  on  that  eventful  day.     Did  he  resort  to  a 
similar  con tii valine  on  previous  occasions?     One 
mav  fancv  it  aoort  of  hnk  in  the  chain  of  look- 
outii  betwiM-n   our   Kin^  Kdward's  windmill   at 
Cressy  and  thiV  balloon  of  present  warfare. 

J.  II.  I.  Oaklky. 

ALiriiie  II.  tri^it,  IVnzance. 


riCTUKE  Armiurri:D  to  Kakfakllk  Mkxgs. — 
\  picturo  of  tho  Nativity  was  prosent^'d  by  the 
late  Lady  lj«>ynton  to  Winterton  church  (Lin- 
colnshiroj  about  1842.  When  she  bought  it  hho 
had  with  it  a  voucher  worded  as  follows : — 

"Thif*  biaiiiiful  Flemish  picturo,  paintrtl  by  ItafT.iel 
Mcn;,o«j.  reproi..Mii>^  th«  Holy  Family.  St.  Jo-cph,  St.  Khza- 

betli,  lln' Viririii  Miirv,  and  Infant  Saviour,  who  i"*  n.-pr**-      T\'^i    ""'c""'  ""^  k.v.»...j.  t»nw.-»^.».      .«uv>    ^*^ 

scutcil  in  t!..;  a.  I  nf"takin-  an  apple  from  St.  lUi^^ilKth  I  IJif;ltens  fur  the  word,  explains  it  as  *•  earnest  and 

active  in  matters  of  no  moniont/  and  derives  it 
from  "  tpotfle  " — a  word  which  look**  invented  for 
the  nonce.  C.  T.  B. 


larity  of  Congreve  and  IMor,  is  an  inept  piece  of 
reasoning  not  worthy  of  the  Edinburffh  Review* 

D.  Blais. 

Mdboamc. 

fin  1G86  Prior  took  his  dcpnrec  of  Bachelor  of  Arts  at 
Cambridge,  and  was  shortly  after  choMsn  fellow  of  8t. 
John's  CoUe;^.  In  1700  the  university  fonlemd  oo  him 
the  decree  of  Master  of  Arts ;  but  it  4lu«s  not  appear  thtt 
he  ever  took  orders,  as  in  1701  ho  was  elected  representa- 
tive of  Ka«t  Griustead  in  Saasex.] 

Smyth  Family  Crkst. — Is  the  following  orart 
borne  by  any  of  the  Smyths  but  those  of  lUth- 
coursey,  co.  Cork  ? — 

**  Uppon  hi:)  helmet  on  a  torse  golde  and  gealea,  an 
armtk  couppe  the  sieve  party  pr  pall  {;olde  and  gcules 
huldin{;  in  his  hande  a  {^rilHiLs  hedd  ra.<ted  aauxe  (z?)« 
bekid  guide,  langued,  eyed,  and  ered  geuhrs.'* 

I  copy  the  above  from  the  original  prnmt. 

^OUN  J.   ^ 
IUthoour8i>y  Cottage. 

Spoffisii. — Can  you  or  any  of  vour  readers  tell 
me  the  derivation  and  ineaiiiii^  of  this  wordP  I 
have  met  with  it  twice  in  the  ^keivhe^  hy  Boa  of 
Charles  Dickens,  and  cannot  rem'-inber  to  haye  met 
with  it  anywhere  else,  Jn  *'  Horatio  Sparkins  "  he 
spealcs  of  a  Mr.  Flam  well  ns  *'a  little  sp^sh 
man/'  and  again  in  *' Thfj  ^-team  JCxcureion'^he 
describes  Mr.  Vercy  Noakea  as  *^s:uart,  tpofishf 
and    eijrht-and- twenty.''      Wob.stor.    who    cites 


(tho  i-'njl ill-Ill  «•;  tin?  tall  of  mankind).  attoTidi-d  by  tin; 
An^<-1  Citihriol,  who  is  iDukin;^  un  with  a  countt'rinih-e 
beainin.:  Avith  liA'i'  and  devotion  at  th«'  lutaut  S;i\  iour. 
In  the  <ii>t.ui'i'  i>  vcii  a  l)inr-*M»ye  view  of  tin;  rity  of 
Joru.salfiii — Aii.:u>t  ix,  ISJ-J.  This  pioturo  \va.>  \uw  in 
tliL'  p(<s>'.>-i.''.i  ol  .Iv»lin  Atlwood,  1\m|.,  M.I*,  lor  Il.irwioli, 
who-so  (.■r.o.t.i'»!i  I  i;<..t  ii  from. — Aiour^T  Whsrpv." 

T  slmu-.l  1.H'  iilad  of  any  inlorniati"n  rf^poctin^ 
Mr.  Attwnod  and  Mr.  We.-^tby  which  would  lu-isist 
one  in  lorminLr  a  judgniL-nt  a.s  to  tho  trus-twnrihi- 
ness  of  the  above.  J.  T.  F. 

Ilatfu'lvl  Hall,  Dnrhnin. 

**  PnLixrrvL  Fame." — A  short  essay  published 
in  l-*^47  by  l*ick».*ring;  is  it  known  by  whom  it 
was  writttni :  W.  J\ 


•  Stu  VDLiXGS  op  St.  Don'.vts. — William  Oadogan 
(irrandtather  of  William,  J-^arl  Cadnfrau,  a  promi- 
nent diplomatist  and  general  under  Anne  and 
(4for  .J  I.)  wt'nt  to  Ireland  as  secretary  to  the 
unl'ortunate  Karl  of  Stratford,  and  dying  Match 
14,  1(W)1,  was  burird  at  Trim.  (.>n  his  monument 
there  his  mother  is  stated  to  have  b^en  Catharine^ 
dftu^rhtLT  of  Thomas  Siradlinjj,  of  Merthur-Mawr, 
in  Glamor^rnnshiiv,  'Milii  Itoberti  fratris  junioria 
Domini  Thomie  Stradliu^  de  C astro  Sanuto  Do- 
nati  or[!iitis  aurati.'' 

Acconlinji:  to  LIurke's   Kvfinct  liarofietage  this 


Wa^  Pkiou  a  Cli:r(;oi.\n?— The  F.dMtm/h     l«.obert '•Irftason,  whudlod,*.;J.,andeevendallgh- 
Jview...^  .  .1  Tvfrman's  Lif^i  of  WvsUni,  in  the  nuiii-     **'^,;/"^  coheira. 

er  lor  Jaiiuarv  last,  speaks   sli^'htinplv   of  tho  !       ^^}^  ^^^^\  line  of  hjbert  was  no  doubt  extinct 
*  '    -  -  r-  .  _  r..  on  the  death  of  the  famous  Sir  Edward  Stiadling 

in  IGOO,  as  St.  Donats  Castle  passed  to  a  -more 


reviewi- 
ber 

morality  of  •'  an  a;re  that  could  delijiht  in  the 
plays  of  C'..ii;rvnvf»,  and  welcome  (osppciallv  from 
a  cler;ryr.i!iiij  such  poems  aw  Prior's."  What  is 
the  me;lnill^•  of  the  parenthetiiral  s».*ntence -^  It 
certainly  has  t'Si^aped  the  attention  of  all  Prior's 
biojfraphers  that  ^Matthew  ever  took  orders,  al- 
though hi'  hi- Id  by  his  fellowship  of  St.  John's  to 
the  last,  lias  the  reviewer,  in  his  literary  re- 
searches, IL'Jjttid  upon  the  record  of  the  ordination 

of  the  Kev.  Matthew  Prior,  B.A.?    Let  it  be  added  ^  ^  

that  the  inference  as  to  the  morality  of  the  aj^  of    ^dsit  to  the  Sublime  Porte,  fuid  *'  sfuSl  so-aad-ML 
Queen  Anne,  founded  exclusively*  on  the  popu-  .  One  is  accustomed  to  hear  people  speak  of  tlia 


distant  branch.  But  I  tjhall  be  ^rrateful  to  any 
correspondent  who  can  contirin  or  correct  the 
statement  on  the  Cadogan  monument  at  Trim. 

GOBT. 

SuBLiMF.  PoRTE. — Will  any  one  tell  an  igno- 
rant man  the  precise  meaning;  of  this  phraae  P  In 
The  Times  of  Saturday  I  read :  *'  GoxiBtantiBq{pl^ 
May  IG.     The  Sultan  made  yesterday  hia ' 


i«>S.IZ.  Jinra8,72.] 


NOT£S  AND  QUERIES. 


Sublime  Porte  as  thev  do  of  the  Holy  See  or  the 
Court  of  St.  Jamea'B,  but  in  The  TimM  the  phiue 
seemB  to  be  uaed  in  its  piimai;  seiue,  and  this  1b 
what  I  -want  to  get  at  A.  B. 

[The  origin  of  tba  aame  BublhiM  Porte  ii  to  ba  n^ 
furad  to  the  undent  Oriental  coatam  of  makine  the  gates 
of  dties  and  of  kictn'  pakoei  pUoea  of  amttiblT  in  «id  - 
nMtioawith  tha  ■Osire  of  goTmunmt  and  of  the  adint - 
nhtmtioD  of  jualioe.  The  Ijnblime  Porte  (LoftrOate). 
or  priodpal  ouUrgate  of  tba*engIio,iethepUaei«lui>*' 
tbe  hatti  scheriffi,  or  imperial  edicia,  are  miiallr  iaaaad., 

SniTDKT  QrzRTEs. — I.  Wlisre  in  Anci  diall  1 
look  for  a  parody  of  Swinburne's  "  Ballad  of  Sin- 
deiu  "  P    The  moit  likely  line  to  -recall  it  is — 

"  Thy  red  rigbt  hand  ehall  reek  beneath  the  irtiJte." 

2.  What  is  the  fuU  title  of  the  novel  whiali 
angi^ted  "  Fragoletta  "  ? 

S.  Where  is  the  legend  of  St.  Dorothy  fiiat 
mentioDed  io  litemture  P 

4.  -'Where  can  I  find  what  (me  cdten  hears  pruaed 
M"ihe  parody"  of"  Locksley  Hall"? 

JoinoB  SruOKitT, 

Chrirt  Church,  Oufbrf. 

TAKieTRi.  —  What  is  the  deidvation  of  ^lie 
vord  P    It  denotes,  according  to  Chamben,  - 

■■an  ancient  municipal  law  or  tsiiai«,  whkli  allottad  ifae 
inberitaiics  of  lands,  caaiJeB,  &0.,  held  brthla  tamretn 
lb«  oldest  and  moat  worth}'  and  capable  peraon'of  Uie 
d«wased'8  name  and  blood,  without  any  rqgard  to  proxl- 

It  was  abolished  in  the  raien  of  James  I. 

EsKuNs  Tkw,  U.A. 

[TanintTV  (Irish  lanaiitoiebf)  was  the  ancient  law 
prevalent  Hmont;  the  Gaelic  Celts,  b^  wMeb  the  bntbar 
of  a  deceased  monarch  inherited  the  throhe  in  preferenct 
to  tbe  aon  or  direct  descendant.    The  indiTidual  anjming 

'Mr  pniuniptiTc,  seems  to  have  been  inreeud  with  lfa» 
4ignlty  in  his  (iredeiwesor'B  iifetime,  ai  la  the  eleetion  ol 
the  klni;  of  the  Komans  in  tlie  dnya  of  the  old<6erman 
empire.  The  wor<l  ranif  t  means  nothing  more  than  the  lord 
or  ipiTeinor  of  a  conntry,  from  ton,  a  re^on  oi  territoiy, 
and  is  doabtlera  allied  to  the  Anglo-Saxon  Aegtu,  oi 
thane.  Tan  seems  to  be  tbe  aame  as  the  Greek  X^. 
-Sea  O'Reillv's  Irish  and  Armatrong'B  Gaelic  dietionarfeB,  i 
Mce  "  Tana'istc."  See  alao  Gbalmen'a  OaUoHia  (to).  1)  ' 
with  therefurencesin  index,  in  which  an  aeooBnt  1bb1t«i  i 
of  thia  singular  cualom,  oa  tranapUnted  br  the  Iriah^Soot*  ' 
to  Scotland,     See  ••  N.  i  Q."  3"i  S.  vii.  892.]  j 

Jo.  Westox,  Esa-— In  1067,  Hamngnui^  the  I 
well-linown  Loodaa  theatiical  bookseller,  pub-  i 

"  The  Amazon  Queen  ;  or,  the  Amonn  of  Tbdotria  | 
ton,  Eaqai' 

In  the  Siographia   Dramaiica  no  Beeoimt   ia 

Siven  of  the  autnor.  May  he  not  have  been  » 
ascendant  of  the  Lord  Treaanrar  Portland,  of 
.whose  cupidity  and  profusion  a  most  ^Hywing 
account  will  be  be  found  in  die  flnt-rtlvne  «f 
Caarendon".?  ^  3.1L 


IIISEEERE   CARVINGS, 
(4"  S.  ix.  406.) 

It  will  be  gnttiMng  to  many  conaspondeirtKtf 
"N.&Q,"  to  findthatMB.  Eoutxll  is  engaged  on 
a  wod  illustratiDg-  the  much-neglected  sulgect  tf 
oUBereie  earrings,  and  it  will  be  mteraatiiig  to  aee 
what  are  the  lesulte  of  his  inquiries  into  the  nuMS 
which  led  to  thwr  production.  I  have  axamiiied 
all  which  have  come  in  my  way,  occaaionally 
making  drawings  of  them,  and  have  not  bean  able 
to  resist  the  conviction  tbjit,  whilat  many  are  due 
to  mere  wanton  exuberance  of  &ncy  on  the  part  of 
the  carver,  iuwit  otIieD  contun  aatiriral  ^^limH^nif 
more  or  less  orart  to  tbe  atmaea  eobtiDg  in  tha 
ohareh,  uid  to'theevU  liveatf  aome  of 'her  ittbiifr- 
ten.  In  the  AfannJdiMrB  (fas  Cftare&nn  4  a»- 
riswr  ia  a  refeienae  to  Plutarch  (^mtpes.  iv.lJD 
bearing  on  the  kindred  snlject  of  the  grotea^qB 
fl{rorae  on  garyoj/li,.  which  leads  the  writn  to 
think  that  theae  were  ^ropitiatoiy  and  n ' 
rical.  Tbe  pasaage  ia  to  the  e&ct  that  tiitt 
tians  put  lions'  heada  on  the  noaalea  of  ^< 
tuna,  ao  thatwhan  the  sun  jaaaed  throng  "On 
sign  of  ibo  laon,  the  Nile  might  bring  abunSant 
water  to  their  fielda. 

Hie  theory  that  Hie  carvings'  are  in  the  nuSn 


of  Notre  Same,  and  many  other  ohnr  _ 
France  and  elaewhere.  In  reply  to  Hb.  Boutxa^ 
qnary:  the  firat  figure  rapeara  to  corretpond  in 
all  reapecla  with  tbst  of  St.  John,  the  small  bird 
and  the  collared  oreature  excepted.  It  will  .be' 
found,  I  think,  tiurt  the  eupportwi  or  aide  cobqki^  * 
aitious  laiely  have  any  relation  to  the  conteil 
BdbUt -       -  - 


eariy  engrttvinge,  " Apropos  deeln 
an^  in  Eab^f|er's  Qemuai']Wble  of  I48S,  when 
a  r»bhit  is  {loppmg  ita  head  out  of  » little  hole  on 
Uoimt  Sinn  dnriu  a  very  aoletDninterriary  nd 
another  is  med  muing  hmi  against  a  DreiiiDiiB& 
at  -tiie  moiMnt  Of  the  ^tearing  of  Aaauom.  I 
waa  moch  amnaed  "by  the  aeoond  "flgnre  nftnafl 
toin  Woreeater  Oatiiedral,  and  made  a  BkstA,£tf 
lefaieiiBe.  A.  onriona  engraving  will  be  finind~iB 
the  1S77  adi&m  of  Hdinehed,  lapreaantiiwBaB- 
^oea  gogeonalr  a^pmlM.  widi  a  ntUntiwABl 
undw  Tm  am,  «nt  no  mvrtiini  ia  jnade  cf  4a 
animal  in  'flu  tez^  and  I  have  not  bean  d3a 
to  diaoom  iriiy  it  waa  thoa  ddinaatad.  Thm». 
it  aome  evwanoe  tihat  ™^ j"!"''"**^'  *■  as  *^"*"g  on 
a  nan  waa  faHtltalad  ftr  ina  pmiiilunent  c^  inocn- 
Cbattt  'iridoM.  (Sea  a  moat  amnidng  lattar.te 
ra«q»aaWBr,lTa.att,wtidi.qgeaietobehaaia   . 

*"  be  bmd  tolMMir 


472 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*  &  IX.  JoM  8, 71 


nected  with  the  he$tiaries  so  popular  in  the 
twelfth-fourteenth  centuries,  v.  g.  the  spirited 
fight  between  the  lion  and  drafi^on  at  Wor(^ter. 
In  others,  notably  in  one  at  Malvern,  gryllx  are 
displayed  having  monai<tic  heads  and  raiment. 
The  carvings  in  the  choir  of  Rouen  cathedral  are 
more  artistic  than  most  of  those  which  I  have 
seen  in  our  English  churches.  I  have  sketches  of 
two,  which  are  at  Mr.  Boutell's  service,  but  I 
think  that  if  he  has  not  already  obtained  drawings 
of  these  the  sea  visit  would  amply  repay  him. 

J.  Eliot  IIoDGKur. 

West  Derby,  Liverpool. 

In  the  Worcester  series,  figure  1, 1  should  be 
inclined  to  think  intended  for  St.  John  the  Apostle 
and  Evangelist.  As  an  Evangelist  he  is  writing 
in  a  large  book.  The  large  bird  at  his  feet  is  pro- 
bably an  eagle,  the  well-known  emblem  of  the 
Evangelist.  What  this  bird  holds  in  his  beak  is, 
I  suppose,  the  ink-horn  which  is  often  represented 
as  suspended  from  the  eagle's  beak  in  pictures  of 
St  John.  The  bird  of  smaller  size  may  be  the 
partridge,  which  St.  John  is  recorded  to  have  had 
as  a  favourite ;  but  I  cannot  account  for  its  head 
being  in  the  mouth  of  some  creature,  as  if  in 
danger  of  being  swallowed,  unless  it  is  intended 
to  signify  that  under  the  saint's  protection  the  pet 
bird  would  still  be  safe.  In  an  old  MS.  of  frag- 
ments I  have  seen  the  devil  represented  as  attacked 
by  the  saint's  eagle,  and  it  is  not  unlikely  that 
the  creature  here  attempting  to  swallow  the 
smaller  bird  is  meant  for  the  evil  spirit. 

F.  C.  II. 


Mr.  J.  Oouon  XicnoLs  says  that  he  has  met 
with  no  misericordes  with  inscriptions  except 
those  at  Whalloy.  There  are  three  at  Beverley 
minster.  My  notes  of  thom  wore  hurriedly  taken 
and  are  imperfect,  so  I  have  waited  to  see  if  any 
one  else  would  say  anvthing  about  them,  but  as 
no  one  has  done  so  t  send  what  I  can.  The 
misericorde  of  the  middle  stall,  upper  row,  north 
side,  has  a  shield  of  arms  iu  the  middle,  and  on 
the  "  horns  '*  respectively  a  dove,  round  which  is 
written  "  Arma  Wilhclmi  Falt(r')  doctoris/*  and 
an  eagle,  round  which  the  inscription  continues 
"Thesaurarii  hujus  Ecclesie,  1520,  the  date  being 
in  Arabic  figure."*.  On  the  misericorde  in  the  cor- 
responding position  on  the  south  side  is  a  shield 
inscribed  in  tlio  horns  '*  Arma  magistri  Thome  | 
Dowington  (r )  precentoris  hujus  ecclesie."  I  think, 
but  am  not  certain,  for  in  this  I  write  from  me- 
morv,  that  on  the  last-named  misericorde  there  is 
a  reuus  of  a  dog  and  barrel.  On  another,  in  the 
upper  row,  north  side,  near  the  west  end,  is  the 
inscription  "  Johannes  Webe(?)  |  clericus  fabrici." 
Some  of  the  words  are  contracted,  but  I  have 
hero  filled  them  up.  I  am  in  no  case  absolutely 
certiun  about  the  names ;  the  first  two  are  no  doubt 


verifiable  by  any  one  who  has  leisure  to  seazch. 
I  am  no  herald,  out  will  try  to  describe  tiie  arms 
intelliribly.  The  treasurer*8  have  a  fess,  on  which 
is  half  a  sun  issuing  from  the  upper  edoe,  and 
two  martlets  in  chief  and  one  in  base.  The  pze- 
centor*s  are  quarterly :  in  the  first  and  fourth  are 
three  rectangular  oDJects  in  a  row,  each  with  a 
square  thing  above  it  like  a  dot  to  an  t.  On  the 
second  and  third  quarter  is  a  chevron  between 
three  mullets. 

There  is  a  fox  preaching  to  geese  at  Etching- 
ham  in  Sussex. 

In  the  parish  church  of  Hemingborough,  between 
Selby  and  Ilowden,  is  one  misericorde  which  de- 
serves notice  on  account  of  its  peculiar  form  and 
early  date.  Its  carving  consists  of  ''  early  Eng* 
lish  "  foliage  completely  relieved  from  the  nounoy 
the  seat  being  merely  a  thin  shelf.  It  is  tne  only 
one  left  in  fifteen  stalls,  the  lightness  of  their 
form  no  doubt  having  caused  the  destruction  of 
the  others.  These  stidls  certainly  do  not  belong 
to  their  present  place  nor  to  any  parish  churchy 
and  thev  very  closely  resemble,  if  they  are  not 
identical  in  form  with,  those  still  remaining  at 
Selb^  Abbey,  from  whence,  I  am  strongly  of 
opinion,  they  have  been  removed.  At  S^y  no 
misericordes  are  left. 

I  will  conclude  with  a  oueiy.  What  is  the 
meaning,  origin,  and  date  of  introduction  of  the 
word  miserere  as  applied  to  these  seats?  The 
name  I  have  used  seems  more  in  accordance  with 
ancient  usage.  J.  T.  Micklethwaitx. 

Among  the  misereres  in  Bristol  cathedral  ia  a 
very  interesting  example  of  the  fox  preachixig  to 
geese.  It  is  in  the  stalls  on  the  soutn  side  oftfae 
choir,  and  has  been  engraved  in  Leversedge^s  Hi^ 
tory  of  Bristol  Cathearal,  I  shall  be  happy  to 
draw  it  for  Mr.  Boutell  if  he  desires  it 

Jomr  WooDwiSD. 


Mr.  Boutell  cannot  do  better  than  refer  to 
the  last  volume  of  ''  N.  &  Q.,"  in  which  he  will 
find  much  information  with  regard  to  this  subject 
At  p.  540  is  a  paper  by  Chascellor  HABnre- 
TON  on  the  stalls  at  St.  I)avid*s  and  Exeter.      D. 


Some  miserere  stalls  remain  in  St.  Clement^s 
church,  Sandwich,  as  well  as  the  large  collection 
in  the  neighbouring  church  of  Minster  alluded  to 
by  Mr.  Boutell.  T.  E.  Wisningiow. 

A  very  curious  carving  on  a  miserere  exists  an 
that  most  interesting  but  little  known  church,  the 
cathedral  of  St.  David's.  I  imagine  it  was  in- 
tended to  ridicule  the  "denial  of  the  cup  to  the 
laity." 

A  fox  in  priestly  vestments  is  seated  on  one  end 
of  a  bench  or  form,  and  is  holding  out  the  patan 
to  a  goose,  who  wears  a  (to  me)  nondescr^  I^jh 


4<i>  S.  IX.  JuNB  8, '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


473 


head-dresSy  wliilst  behind  him,  and  therefore  con- 
cealed from  the  goose,  is  an  ample  flagon  or  jar. 
I  have  a  rough  but  tolerably  accurate  sketch  of 
this,  -which  is  at  Mb.  Botttell's  fiervice  should  he 
desire  it.  BL  H.  W. 

10,  Fleet  Street,  EXJ. 

Mb.  Boutell  will  find  an  example  of  a  fi)x 
preaching  to  geese  on  a  miserere  in  the  choir  of 
the  minster  at  Beyerley,  the  fourth  £rom  the  west 
end,  on  the  cantoris  side.  In  4^  S.  yiii.  will  be 
found  much  information  concerning  miBereres 
hkely  to  be  of  use,  and  at  p.  4d9  of  the  same 
volume  a  further  description  of  those  in  Beyerley 
Minster  contributed  by  me. 

John  Pigefobd,  MA. 

Hnngate  Street,  Pickering. 

A  very  fine  set  (between  sixty  and  seventy  in 
number)  exists  in  New  College  Chapel,  Oxroid. 
They  were  converted  into  des^  for  the  staUa  by 
James  Wyatt  about  ninety  yean  ago.  Thejr  axe 
well  worthy  oi  jova  correspondent's  attention: 
some  of  the  carvmg  is  of  wonderful  delica^  and 
excellence.  C.  M* 

[Commanicatioiis  on  this  subject  will  reach  the  Rev. 
C  Boutell  if  addressed  to  him  to  the  care  of  Mr.  Aldis, 
Photographer,  High  Street,  Worcester.] 


HOUSTOUN  OF  flOUSTOUN. 

(4*»»  S.  ix.  407.) 

Houstoun,  or  HeVs-town,  was  a  large  flef  of 
the  barony  of  Renfrew,  holding  under  we  Hi|gh 
Stewarts  of  Scotland,  who  came  to  the  Scotttah 
throne  in  1370-1,  became  a  parish,  and,  in  conzBe 
of  the  seventeenth  century  when  a  ^enenl  ar- 
rangement of  the  boundaries  of  panshes  took 
place,  was  united  to  Eilallan,  lying  on  its  western 
Doundary,  and  which  till  this  time  was  itself  a 
separate  parish.  The  original  name,  howeveti 
was  not  Hewstoun,  but  K^peter:  the  change 
having  taken  place  upon  a  Hew  de  Padvinaa  (a 
parish  in  the  upper  ward  of  Lanarkshire,  now 
called  Pitenain)  having  obtained  a  transfer  of  this 
barony  from  Baldwin  de  Bigre,  sheriff  of  Lanark, 
in  the  reign  of  Mai.  IV. ;  and  G^.  Crawftud,  in 
his  History  of  Renfrewshire  (published  in  1710), 
remarks  that  this  barony  ''continueth  with  them 
(the  Houstouns)  in  the  male  line  to  this  day." 
To  that  History  J  and  to  Semple  and  Robertson's 
continuations  thereof  (published  in  1782  and  1818 

nectively),  your  correspondent  is  referred  ibr  a 
iction  of  the  family  aown  to  its  dose  in  the 
lineal  male  line  by  the  death  of  Sir  John  Hoiis« 
toun  in  1751.  His  father,  who  was  also  Sir  John, 
died  in  insolvent  circumstances  in  1722 ;  and  the 
son  sold  the  estate,  about  1740,  to  his  maternal 
uncle  Sir  John  Schaw  of  Greenocl^  and  it  wnrer 
returned  to  any  Houstoun. 


It  is  not  known  exactiy  upon  whom  the  repre« 
sentation  of  this  family  in  the  nude  line  devolved 
upon  the  death  of  this,  the  last  baronet    But  it 
is  a  fact  that  he  made  his  kinsman,  George  Hous- 
toun of  Johnstoun,  by  wilL  his  general  disponee, 
excluding.the  son  of  his  elder  dster  Helen,  then 
deceased,  as  well  as  Anne,  his  other  sister,  the 
wife  of  Col.  Cuninghaine  of  Enterkine,  although 
alive.  And  some  two  years  ago  that  representation 
has  been  established,  by  proceedings  adopted  in 
the  Lord  Lyon  Court,  to  be  in  the  person  ofGeozge 
L.  Houstoun,  the  present  young  Xaird  of  John- 
stoun, and  who  was  thereby  auuorised  to  assume 
the  titie,  and  arms  of  Houstoun  of  tiiat  Bk.    Tlie 
Laird  of  Johnstoun  deduces  Ids  descent  from 
QeoTge,  the  second  son  of  Sir  Ludovick  Houstoon. 
Ent,  by  Margaret,  daughter  of  Patiick  Maxweill 
of  Newark-on-the-Clyde,  near  Port  Glasgow.    It 
was  Sir  Patrick,  the  eldest  son  of  Sir  Ludoviek^ 
who  was  created  a  baronet  by  patent  dated  tiia 
last  of  February,  1068.    Sir  Ludovick  havinsr  ao- 
j[uire4  the  estate  of  Johnstoun,  nowcsJllsd  Mmiifcya^ 
in  the  parish  of  Eilbarchany  siid  long  possessed  hj 
the  NiBbet&who  were  succeeded  by  a  oadet  of  tlia 
&mUy  of  Elleralie,  the  Wallaces^  gave  it  to  his 
son  Gfeorge  (Crawmrd's  JBUd,),  who  manied  Elisa- 
beth, dai^hter  of  Alez,  Onninghame  of  Craigends 
i'%  ddetAlSShnttan  befcKre  w4);  and  had  issue 
bur  sons  and  three*  daughters.    Qwtge  was  sno* 
oeeded  by  hi^  son  Ludovid^  who  manied  A^patL 
daughter  of  James  lYalkingshaw  of  that  lU^  and 
had  two  sons  and  three  danj^htera.    ^e  eldest 
son  George  snooeeded:  and  it  was  he  who  sold 
Johnstoun  to  James  Mllliken  in  1788,  who  applied 
MilUken,  his  own  surname,  to  the  estate  of  John- 
stoun; George  Houstoun  at  the  same  time  being, 
by  agreement  allowed  to  retain  and  transfer  tlie 
name  Johnstoun  to  his  other  estate  of  Easter- 
Cochran^  in  Paisley  parish,  and  which  immedi- 
ately adjoins  on  the  east  George  Houstoun  dying 
uninamed,  was  succeeded  by  uie  son  of  his  <mly 
brother  Ludovick,  and  Jean  Banking  by  nana 
Geoige;  and  the  latter  having  manied  Mmxj, 
daughter  of  William  MaodowaU,  second  of  Gasui- 
semple  had  by  her  two  sons — ^Ludovick  and  Wfl* 
Ham  MacdowalL  Lodovid^  the  eldest  suooeeded. 
He  married  —  Stirling,  daughter  of  Stidin^  pC 
Einpendavie  (or  EippenrossP),  in  Sthdingshm^ 
and  had  a  son  Cborge^  who  for  some  veani  zem- 
sented  Benfrewshire  m  Parliament;  Dot  he  oiad 
young  and  unmarried,  survived  ^r  his  Catheiv 
who  also  survived  his  brother  Wmianu    Ana 
upon  Ludovick's  death,  mna»  tm  or  twelve  yea» 
sffo  at  his  seat  of  Johnstone  Osstle,  the  eldest  soil 
df  William,  by  a  danghtar  of  06L  fiusseU,  suo- 
oeeded; who  Is  the  nnsent  Laird  of  Johnstoun  as 
weU  as  Hoostoon  OE  that  Ilk. 

The  lenrassntatf ve  pir  this  fkmSy  in  the  frmslt 
line  is  hsBafed  to  be  the  jpssent  hoxdrJAmknMi^ 
of  BeBftswsMre^  Sr  IL  B,  &  Stswarty  of  Vtmm*'  - 


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NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[.*»&II.  Jrow«  "Tt. 


hall  snd  OTeenock,  Bart ;  he  being  tbe  fifth  in 
descent  from  Helen  (Helenom  P),  tlia  eldest  aiatei 
of  Sir  John  Houstoun,  tlia  last  baronet,  and  who 
became  the  wire  of  Hit  Michael  Htenart  in  1738. 

Of  Sir  WiUiam  Houston  nothin)^  is  known  t4i 
m  escept  what  id  derived  from  Burke's  Dictionary 
eftha  Peerage  and  Baronetoffe,  1802,  L.  L, 


THE  PLAST  BASIL. 
(4"'  a.  is.  408.) 
At  the  above  reference  mention  ismnilenf  oneof 
Eeats's  poems,  in  which  "  the  lady  13  made  to  burv 
the  heart  of  her  dead  loTcr  in  il  pot  of  btuil  which 
she  kept  nenr  her."  I  am  not  acqiiainted  with 
the  poem  alluded  to ;  but  if  every  one  has  his 
own,  the  story  of  the  pot  of  bsisil  belongs  to  Boc- 
cBcio,  and  will  be  found,  with  a  little  Turtation, 
in  the  Oiomata  qiiarta,  Novelln  V.  The  story  is 
briefly  this :  — 

Tli'ere  wore  tliree  youn^  men,  merchants  in 
Sfesaina,  who  had  lost  their  pavetits,  and  had  n 
young  unmarried  sister  living  with  them ;  also  a 
joung  clerli  named  Lorenzo,  of  pleasing'  appeal^ 
BOCe,  and  po»«ssed  of  many  amiable  and  useful 
qualitios.  By  dei,'rees  the  fiister  and  he  became 
attached,  which  ended  at  last  iu  an  illicit  connec- 
tion—a foot  which  accident  reTenlcd  to  the  oldest 
brother,  though  the  parties  ntbat  inlercHted  were 
not  aware  of  liis  know1ed^'«  of  it.  After  discuss- 
ing the  matter  amnnp:st  tlieinselves,  and  without 
taAng  further  notice,  the  three  brothers  pretended 
to  be  gtiing  im  an  eieuraion  into  the  country, 
iUTited  IiOKVxn  to  join  them,  and.  when  there, 
enticed  liim  into  a  remote  and  itolitarj  spot,  put 
him  to  death,  end  buried  the  body ;  giving  out 
that  he  had  been  sent  upon  some  business  of  the 
firm.  When  time  passed,  and  he  did  not  return, 
the  sister  inquired  often  after  him,  but  without 
effect:  and  one  niifht,  when  she  had  retired  soiv 
rowful  and  irrieving  to  rest,  Lorenzo's  ghost  ap- 
peared to  her  in  a  dream,  saying  that  he  should 
return  no  more,  that  he  had  bci'n  murdered  b^ 
her  brothers,  and  describing  the  spot  where  his 
body  lay.  When  morning  appeared,  the  imprea- 
uon  was  so  at^)ng  that,  in  compimy  with  a  faith- 
fij  servant  who  was  in  her  confidence,  she  sought 
the  spot,  and  with  little  diirieulty  found  the  corpse. 
WilhnKly  would  she  have  token  it  awny  to  give  it 
more  honourable  sepnituie;  but,  being  unable  for 
many  reason*  to  do  this,  slie  cut  off  the  head  witli 
a  knife,  and,  wrapping  it  in  a  nankin,  carrieil  it 
away  with  her,  covering  up  the  body  as  we)l  aa 
she  could.  Returning  home,  after  a  thijupand 
kisses  she  placed  the  head,  wrapped  in  the  napkin 
as  it  was,  in  n  flower-pot ;  and  lilling  this  up  with 
earth,  planted  it  with  sweet  ba^l;  which  through 
her  care,  and  for  other  reasons,  Nourished  abund- 
ently,  and  was  very  fragrant.  The  sequel  of  the 
story  is  that,  falling  into  bad  health,  and  con- 


dnnally  weeping  over  her  flower-pot,  tb«  nd^ 
bours  considered  her  disordered  in  her  mind,  and! 
[he  bmthers  had  it  ra^Dved.  This  rendemd'  na^ 
ters  worse.  In  her  agony,  calUng  for  "ber  flower- 
pot," the  seciet  was  discovered.  But  F 
dliatl  here  conclude  his  own  story:  — 
"  I  giovani  si  marB\'igliaDo  farCe  di  que 
iiore,  e  pf  rtii)  volleni  vodere  chs  Jentro  vi  fii 


vigliiiron  forle,  e  temetteco  non  ijueata  cosa  ai  riupase; 
e  fnctcrrntji  quells,  lonza  olCro  dire,  cnutamenla  di  Met- 
iins  uncitiiu,  ec  nrdiimto,  come  di  qnindi  si  rilrognooa,  Si 

Tlie  poor  sister  died,  of  course,  of  a  broked 
lieart.  The  story  is  a  touching  one,  because  eri- 
dently  founded  on  fact.  W.  (1.) 


TBCMnULL'S  PlCTOHB  OF  "  BcSKfiU'S  Hiu" 
r4'^  3.  ix.  400.)— The  individuals  represented  is 
TrumbuU'ii  picture  of  this  battle,  published  W 
X.  C.  de  Poygi,  01,  New  Bond  Street,  Apil  ITW^ 
nro  (beninnittg  at  left-hand  comer) :  the  Sav.  He 
M'CIiutnck,  A.  (figure  >vithout  head  covering); 
Major  Miwre,  A.  (figure  holding  flag) ;  Genanl 
Howe,  B.  (figure  above  the  group  of  thi«e) :  M^oi 
Knowhon,  A. ;  ^ajor  31*01617,  A. ;  Colonel  Pn*' 
cott,  A.  (group  of  three  tiguies,  Uajor  Knowltcn 
being  without  head  covering) ;  LieuL-ColoMl 
Porker,  A.  ^eft-hand  comer  at  bottom) ;  Majdt 
Pitc^rn,  B.;  Lieutenant  Pitcaira,  B.  (the  major 
leaning  on  the  shoulder  of  the  HHutanut)) 
General  Clinton,  B.  (central  figure  at  top  ImjU' 
bg  sword):  Major  Small,  B.  (centre  of  «^ 
graving);  General  Warren,  A.  (central  flgn 
at  bottom);  General  Putnam,  A.  (flgun  vritt 
hand  held  aloft) ;  Ensi^  LokI  BawdOD,  aftsr- 
wards  Earl  Moim,  B.  (right-hand  fiigura  *t  tog^ 
holding  flag);  Lieutenant  Grosvenor,  A.  (flgiM 
beneath  General  Putnam) ;  Colonel  Gftrdnar,  L. 
(figure  bnueath  I^ord  Rawdon) ;  Colonel  Am- 
crombie,  1\  (right-band  comer  at  bottom,  haai  . 
inverted).  The  letters  A.  snd  B.  ugnify  AiM- 
rican  and  British.  .    Whlijji  RAink 

I'aRALLKI.    PaBSAQB      is    TlBULTilTB    UD    S» 

Watiss  "nvMse"  (4'"  S.  ix.  403.)— I  Mdb 
think  that  Dr.  Watts  in  thia  ••  in  moat  of  W 
h^ns— many  of  them  very  beautiful— wot  tm 
hia  ideas,  when  they  are  not  orminal^  to  Qlk 
Scripture  rather  than  to  the  heataen  poete'  M 
support  of  this  opinion,  I  would  aelact  nooc  m 
preterence  to  the  one  bera  notad.  Taka  Ifev 
lines  as  they  come:  fint  and  aecond,  «ee  T^dB 
liic-cvii.  7;  third  and  fourth,  Faalm  xlu.  6,  ^ 
Job  XXXV.  10;  fifth  and  lixth,  Inush  ItiiL  1^ 
seventh,  2  Peter  i.  10 ;  and  Rar.  xsi  16 ;  eJA^ 
Psalm  Ixxxiv.  11,  and  eipaaiillj  M-*!— ^j  ir,\ 

Mr.  Pickford  mnat  e " 

but  the  last  line  ie 


4ns.  n.  JnaB8,7t] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


is  "BsttiDg"  inBtead  oirituig.    The  truo 

"  And  tboa  my  riting  aon." 
And  this,  while  neceMftTy  to  the  conHBtenoy  and 
true  ajjplicability  of  the  metaphor,  n«akene  ver^- 
much,  if  it  does  not  become  fatal  to  the  notion  of 
any  furallelism  between  those  venea  and  the  paa- 
Mge  &om  Tibullua.  Ebuttmii  Tbw,  M.A. 

Habd  Labodb  ('4"'  8.  ix.  404.)--E,  L.  S.  moat 
be  slJU  at  the  A,  B,  C  of  the  science  of  penality . 
The  "  mindless  meamngless  pnnishment  he  im-^ 
agfines  to  be  pecaliar  to  AuBtrian  gaols  has  baeii 
in  the  shape  of  "shot  drill,"  a  common  form  of 
hard  labour  in  English  military  prisons  these  ten 
years  past.  In  civil  prisons  the  favourite  example 
of  the  opua  inoperottmt  is  the  "  erwik,"  the  labour 
attendant  nn  which  is  sa  terrible  as  it  ia  barren. 
There  is  also  the  very  hard  labonr  of  the  tiead- 
mill :  the  action  of  wEich  is  very  often  designedly 
made  unproductive.  Somefiines  the  treadmill 
grinds  com;  usually  it  merely  "winnowR  the 
bnzom  wind."  Again,  E.  L.  3.  appears  to  hn 
unaware  that  tbe'"infester8  of  onr  homes  and 
biriiways"  are  when  .connoted  sentenced,  not  to 
"hard  labour,"  but  to  penni  serritude..  Penal 
seiritude  means  quarniog  stone  at  Chubain  or 
Pordand.  Oarotters,  in  addition  to  the  tentencf 
of  servitude,  may  be  and  are  often  flof^ed.  Only 
convicts  in  solitary  confinement,  or  who  are  phy- 
sically incapable  of  severe  labour,  are  set  to  pii^ 
ing  oakum.  Altogether,  the  subject  bone  Karcely- 
worthy  of  discussion  in  our  dear  old  "  ^.  &  (J." 

G.  A.aAXA. 
R  L.  S.'s  nrricle  only  requires  to  be  pat  in 
practice  by  magistrates,  who  at  most  times  seem 
to  commiserate  more  with  the  beater  than  the 
beaten ;  and  be  assured  the  salutary  effect  would 
soon  be  made  apparent^  more  particulaiiy  were 
die  "cat"  added  to  the  punishment.  Not  tiiat 
that  would  be  requisite;  for  were  it  once  made 
known,  to  use  a  vulgarism,  it  would  spread  like 
wildfire.  The  suffering  by  carrying  the  ball 
E.  L.  S.  alludes  to  in  "  shot  drill "  is  known  to 
every  English  regiment;  end  there  is  nob  »  soldier 
-who  has  gone  tlirough  the  ordeid  but  will' say  it 
is  tai  more  agonising  tban  a  scoring  with  the  cat. 
J.  D. 
Dmaioss  of  Saxqut  (4'*  S.  ix.  408.)  —  fit,  a 
WOTk  which  I  have  now  in  hand  I  hare  detailed 
the  origin  of  the  various  subdivisionB  of  the  Statei 
of  Saxony,  and  if  A  Studbsi  will  addreoi  me 
directly  I  shall  be  pleased  to  give  him  the  infbnao- 
tion  he  needs.  Johit  Wooowabd. 

St  Mary's  Parsonage,  Montro«^  H.B, 

loLANTHK  ('4«S.  ix.  407.)— This  itEingBeii^g 
daughter  in  the  exquisite  litUe  dtaouti*  waamij 
&st  name,  translated  tram  the  Duiih  Bj  BIr. 
Theodore  Uartin,  and  the  tUra-r^  of  wUl^.m 


genonated  by  Mra.  Hartin  (Miss  Helen  Fancit) 
>ima  one  of  that  ladVs  moat  beautiful  creataona^ 
C.  W.  SL 
Bimns  ura  Ksaix  (^  S.  ix.  108,  285,  3f».)— 
May  I  add  one  more  to  Ma.  MAsdHALL'e  liM  <rf 
quotationa:  — 

9peitB»  Top  ifiii  nu>  nliaiii  lulmr  A^rai. 

Soph.,  4f«,  L  30*. 
A.  il^iiEsmK. 

Kingsbridgs  Gfanuiuu'  School,  S:  Devon. 

"  Thifk  that  Day  vmr,"  «tc.  (**  S.  ix.  Ua^ 
396.)— Mr.  £^w^  baa  kindly  inbnned  ma  tbrt 
tbe  nfbrenoe  in  hia  AmtKor  Word*  meMW  ai 
old  scrap  hook  oontained  in  the  Britiab  Uaaeaii^ 
"Album  Amicorum  David  Kiieg"  (eirca  1660). 
As  he  has  merely  qnoted  from  a  quotaliaiL.  aad 
not  been  able  to  tmce  the  oonplet  to  its  anthor.  I 
should  be  glad  if  3>on  woold  allow  me  to  man 
farther  inquiry  as  to  its  source.  C.  TT.-  !£• 

Thx  Altab  Gloxhs  or  OiJ>  Sf.  Pavl's  (#^81 
ix.  317,  tiA)— Ma.  Outxb,  when  be  wrote  Oat 
the  tnuulation  I  gave  was  not  a  &itUbl.  ob^ 
no  doubt  alluded  to  the  words  "  asnntoa  de  Jeea- 
Ghriato  y  nueetn  Seiiora."  I  am  aware  that  Poms 
usee  such  expreaBiona  as  "  asuntoa  de  la  Pamoa 
deChiisto;"  out  it  appeared  to  me  that  as''8i^ 

CI  or  scenea  of  at  from  Jeena  Christ  and  OUr 
y  "  wenld  he  nonaenaa,  Foni  must  h»ve  vmi 
"  asnntoe,"  when  speaking  of  the  altar  cloths,  in 


sbm'  that  ny  gnws  wh  mn^. 

howOTWofHtaeta    ^-       

draw  attoitdoB  to  t 

were  Kill  in  wriitoBBB,  not  to  panda  m;  ImcHF* 

... „___._^  HalphN.Jam* 


'SpanidL  ~ 


"  To  TmxB"  («■  a.  ix.  890,  37S.)— In  Sl» 
rollowing  verse  of  the  bdlad  of  "The  Battle  of 
Sheiriff-Mntr,"  the  worf  tinMt«r  occurs,  evideaHy 


flwne  rtngniinit  Iftlhmwi.thiiTTii  ftirthitrHftr  mt 
And  nrer  a  Lot's  wlft  tboa  at  a',  man." 

Child's  EagBik  tmd  SmKuA  B^ladt,  viL  IBL 
Thia  maaniiig  ia  akin  to  that  painted  out  hj; 
Xs.  ttttjT.M,    In  Scotland  a  tinW  is  uUlif  • 
Mibr.  S>Mao7EU& 

Ix»H  FBovnroiuinB  (if  8.'  ix.  4DL} — H, 
oo^m  to  me  that  tha  unimwium  "That  DaBfw 
BanafdwF "  and  "  Am  gnat  a  liar  ai  the  «^«flk-  «f 
Staabina  "  jm  no*  liiBUidto  Aa  Kbith  of  InbodL 
t  fhnej  bou  ■"t""""'  in  SooQind^  thtmgh  I  "■■"■H^ ' 
nxplflin  tiudr  ftririni  A  "Inns  pin^  is  ^ril^tJ  ^ 
"gsattatBb,'*lNaHM  tiMI>.btfce  dialect OB O* 
SoottiBb  LtmkiaM,  lAHA  bm  madb  in  eammm 
^fith  fht*  of  tiwHlBA  oTA 


476 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i^i^S  IX.JuHs8,7t. 


thorn  are  there  called  stabs,  A  country  person 
would  say  of  one  of  these  which  had  pierced  his 
finger  and  could  not  conveniently  he  withdrawn,  : 
^<  I  hao  gotten  a  muckle  stab  in  my  fin^-ir."  The 
^'hrog/'  a  small  horing  instrument,  is  m  Scotland 
sometimes  called  a  ''  a  horin  stoh."        J.  Ck.  R. 

"  Not  lost,  but  goxe  before  "  (4'*"  S.  ix.  103, 
373.) — 1  have  heen  told  that  Mrs.  Steele  (the 
Arian  hymn-writer)  is  the  author ;  and  that  the 
line  may  be  found  in  a  volume  published  under  a 
nofn  de  plume  (Hypatia?)  She  wrote  the  lines 
*'  Forgive,  blest  shade."  Uer  hymns  are  found  in 
every  collection.  WTio  was  she  ?  What  is  the 
date  of  her  death  ?  James  IIenby  Dixon.    \ 

"  When  Adam  delved,"  etc.  (3'**  S.  passim ;  ! 

4**»  S.  ix.  415.) — In  a  little  work  entitled —  j 

"  Contes  populaires,  Prc^jiigds,  Patois,  Proverbes,  Noma  i 
de  lleux  de  rarrondissemeut  de  Bayeux/'  par  Frddcric 
Pluquet  (Rouen,  1834)  — 

I  find,  under  "  Proverbes  " :  — 

"  Ne  connaitre  ni  d'^ve  ni  d^Adam ;  c'est-a-dire,  en 
aucunc  mani^re." 

W.  F.  R. 

In  the  old  windows  of  New  College  chapel 
r which  are  nearly  contemporary  with  Jack  Straw) 
Adam  and  Eve  are  represented  in  the  ordinary 
citizens'  dress  of  the  time.  Ho  holds  a  spade,  and 
she  a  distail'  and  spindle.  C.  M. 

WiMBORNE  MiNSTEE  (4***  S.  ix.  408.)  —  Mr. 
Peacock  is  referred  to  a  History  of  Wimhome 
Minster,  published  in  1800  (Bell  k  Daldy),  a 
copy  of  which  I  have  not  at  present  by  me.  In 
extracts  from  the  churchwardens*  accounts  in- 
serted in  that  small  work  notices  are  found  of 
payments  for  the  recovery  of  organ-pipes  and  a 
surplice  which  were  taken  away  by  the  soldiers ; 
but  I  do  not  remember  that  there  is  any  proof 
that  the  church  was  used  as  a  stable.  At  the 
same  time,  as  this  is  an  incident  of  war  not  at  all 
uncommon  at  the  present  time,  there  is  nothing 
more  likely  than  that  it  frequently  happened  in 
the  English  civil  war  of  the  seventeenth  centurv. 

"Gentlemen  of  the  Pavement"  (4'*'  S.  vii.  ; 
341.) — It  is  curious  to  see  how  early  the  idle  ■ 
sauntering  of  the  Parisians  along  their  streets  had  I 
been  observed,  and  given  origin  to  the  proverbial  ! 
expression,  of  which  Prince  Bismark  took  advan-  | 
tage  to  designate  the  Provisional  Government  of 
Franco.     Even  in  the  sixteenth  century  it  was 
already  known,  as  we  find  "  Battre  le  pave  "  among 
the  proverbs  of  Charles  deBouvelles  (Paris,  1557). 
It  seems  at  that  period  to  have  indicated  a  mere 
idler,  who  sauntered  along  the  street  to  pass  away 
the  time;  though  it  came  gradually  to  signify, 
what  Mr.  IIatn  Friswell  tells  us  is  its  present 
meaning,  '*  gentlemen  and  ladies  whose  respecta- 
bility is  of  uie  smallest  kind."       C.  T.  Kamaoe. 


Air  Authentic  Docvkent  (4"»  S.  ix.  388.)— 
A  friend  of  mine,  well  versed  in  Deyonahiie  folk 
lore,  informs  me  that  formerly  printed  copieB  of  • 
letter,  similar  to  the  one  referred  to,  were  oom- 
monly  suspended  in  the  farm-houses  of  BeTon- 
shire  as  a  preservative  against  the  evil  eye ;  bat 
that  of  late  years  the  custom  has  in  a  great  mea- 
sure been  discontinued,  though  some  hoiues  mnj 
be  found  where  it  is  still  kept  up.  May  not  the 
religious  speculator,  by  whom  the  stone  with 
golden  letters  found  at  Mamby  or  Marinby-y  fif^toen 
miles  from  the  town  of  Hunday  Ivie,  in  the  Hbn- 
salajre  Mundorosell  (may  be  St  Ives  of  Cornwall, 
or  Huntingdon),  was  engraved,  have  been  tlia 
impostor  in  India,  followed  by  Portuguese  Jewi 
in  A.D.  1615,  mentioned  by  Bishop  Jortin  [Remarks 
on  Ecclesiastical  History,  ii.  190),  further  aoooonti 
of  whom  are  wanting?  R.  R.  W.  K 

Starcross,  near  Exeter. 

A  similar  document  has  been  in  my  pnnniminn 
for  years.  On  comparing  them  they  appear  to  be 
substantially  the  same,  tnere  being  about  the  stiH 
amount  of  diflference  as  would  result  from  tiut- 
lating  the  same  original  by  two  different  bandi. 
My  copy  is  a  printed  one,  and  must  be  the  gnate 
poii  of  a  century  old.  It  professes  to  have  beat 
found  eighteen  miles  from  Iconium,  fifty-tiuM 
years  after  the  crucifixion— carried  thither  by  a 
converted  Jew.  The  orinnal  copy  being  in  tht 
possession  of  a  family  in  Mesopotamia^  signed  liy 
the  angel  Gabriel  seventy-four  years  after  oar 
Saviour*8  birth.  On  the  same  sheet  are  also  "Earn 
Agbarus's  letter  to  our  Saviour,  with  our  Saviom 
reply ;  Lentullus's  epistle  to  the  Roman  8enal% 
and  a  few  other  matters  of  a  kindred  character. 

W.W. 

Allies'  ''Folklore  op  Worckstsiuhiu* 
C4«^  S.  ix.  431.)— The  author  of  this  work  dial 
Jan.  20, 1856,  at  Cheltenham,  in  his  sizty-eMtk 
year.  A  short  but  interestixig  biography  o^Um 
will  be  found  in  the  GewtlemarCs  Mag,  Ibr  Blank 
1856,  pp.  316-317.  Sakotl  Skaw« 

Andover. 

"  Haiirowgate  "  (4»»»  S.  viii.  pamm;  ix.  SQL 
121,  203,  803,  409.)— In  regard  to  place-naoNB 
now  commencing  with  har,  but  whicn  were  od- 
ginally  her,  &c.,  permit  me  once  more  to  oocnpj 
your  space  so  far  as  to  say  that  there  ia  anotbar 
form  of  the  Gothic  har,  high,  namely,  katr;  and 
that  the  '*  Ilearge  "  of  Doomsday  may  be  Sean- 
dinavian  horgr  (pronounced  hierg)^  a  atone  gStoIbl 
This  was  sometimes  set  up  on  an  eminenoa;  lO 
that  ^'  liearge  "  might  be  supposed  to  deaignata  fta 
locality  in  one  sensei  and  **  ffatrow  "  in  wirthiirt 

J.GS.& 

[Thifl  discussum  mnst  now  dose.] 

Transmutation  of  LiainsB  (4*^  S.  is.  S8I^ 
328,  410.) — It  is  not  easr  to  aee  on  ukaft  jrii* 
ciples  of  comparatiye  philology  the  fk^UtyinA 


• . 


4*  8.  IX.  Jdm  8. '72.]  NOTES  AND  QUEBIES.  477 

ram  can  be  derived  from  the  Greek  rhaiUf  or  from  widow,  Henrietta  Maria,  received  a  benefit  at 

any  other  Greek  word.    It  is  as  reasonable  to  Drury  Lane,  when  the  house  was  more  crowded 

assume  that  the  Greek  rhain  is  derived  from  the  than  it  was  ever  known  to  have  been.    There  was 

English  rain,  Htde  Ciabke.  hardly  ;room  on  the  stage  for  the  performance. 

gentleman,  whose  baronetcy  has  devoh^  on  the  ^nted  date  was  1789,  but  a  secind  edition  was 

Ewls  of  Roden,  T.  B.  will  find  full  pedigre^  m  ^^^  ^^  y^^^  the  end  of  1788.    A  great  pro- 

l^&^''J^7''^'fJZ^i\'^'  279  and  Clutter-  ^^^^  ^^  ^j^^  .^^  ^  ^^  ^^^  ^^^^^  {^^ 

buck's  Etstory  of  HeHfordshxre,  m.  203.  published  seventeen  or  eighteen  years  biore. 

"^*^*  E.  CiTKiKeHAia. 

''The  Misletoe  Bough"  (4"»  S.  ym.  passim;  

IX.  46,  128, 142.) — In  the  parish  church  of  Baw-  fSMitWMntUXiA* 

drip,  about  three  miles  hence,  is  a  monument  to  ^,,^^^  ^«  •»^y>«ro  >nmr« 

Edward  LoveU,  his  wife  Eleanor  {nie  Bradford),  N0TE8  ON  BOOKS.  BTC. 

and  their  two  daughters  Maria  and  Eleanor.    The  EneydoptBdia  of  C^nmohw,  HiUorwal  and  SioaraMeal. 

inscription  touchimr  the  latter  is  —  -^.^^^J^^'^i^A^rffe!!^  ^'SJS^  ^^  ^"^J 

V4.i          ^^^^^  V,T/r      \..^t..     TT  ,^.  ai«iWim«mL.R.O«taB,  Editor  of  "The  Dictionary  of 

•«  Eleanora obut  Jan.  14, 1681.    Hanc,  aabito        Genertl  BioeniihT.''    CLooffmanfl.) 

Tradition  connects  this  sudden   death — '*  ipsos  describes  as  **  a  full  and  tmstworthy  Book  of  Beference 

pene  inter  hymenseos" — with  the  story  of  tiie  ^^  Chronology  both  for  stadents  and  general  readen." 

Bride  playing  at  hide-and-seek.  It  is  cunous  that,  '^H*  »f«n8«n«nt  ^*^t^  !",^lf^  T^^^JSH 

;«  TT<>tr««^<.  fio«i«»n  ««««  ♦u^  v«;^».«.»^».>.  «»«»^  onlyt  *>  certainly  the  best  for  books  of  this  chaiaetei^— 

in  Uavnes  liayly  s  song,  the  bridegroom  s  name  namely,  the  alphabetical  j  and,  in  addition  to  the  features 

should  be  Lovell.    There  is  no  mention  on  the  which  it  shans  in  common  with  most  works  of  a  similav 

monument  of  the  name  of  the  bereaved  husband,  character,  it  contains  the  dates  of  the  events  which  mark 

The  father,  Edward  Lovell,  was  fourteen  years  the  rise^  progress,  decline,  and  ftli  of  states,  and  the 

rector  of  Bawdrip  and  fellow  of  Jesus  OoUege,  <^»«i««inthefortimeeofnatl«ms.    Alllancy,  wars,  bat- 

Cambridge,  and  Ld  m  1676  and  «>  couldli  ^S^^^T^i^^T^'S^^i^SS^, 
have  been  present  at  the  weddmg,  as  represented  with  all  occorranees  of  general  historic  interest,  ai«  ra- 
in the  song.  He  came  from  Batcomoe,  near  corded  in  it.  It  ibrther  udades  the  dates  of  dlsooverlBB 
Gastle-Cary ;  at  which  latter  place  the  Lovells  In  evwy  department  of  Science^  and  of  inventions  and 
were  seated  in  very  early  days.          S.  H.  A.  H.  improvonente,  mwhankal,  sysUl,  d^  eopoo- 

Bridswater  mlcaL  Bat  In  addition,  and  this  is  the  one  of  thepecoHari- 

^  ties  wMdi  dl8tingnlsbestheJ5k4:ydbf9«diia  o/{Anmo?09y 

Bloom  on  the  Grape,  etc.  (4^^  S.  iz.  425.)— r  from  all  works  of  a  simikr  character,  and  gives,  it  a 

The  bloom  on  various  fruits  is  a  vegetable  formic  special  dahn  to  be  prized  as  one  of  those  books  which  eveiy 
tion,  which 
Where  it 
detriment 

again.      It  is  found  even  before  the  i^uit  ap-  tic,  by  whicb  tlMj  have  been  distinguished.'  That  the 

preaches  to  maturity.  F.  C.  Bl.  work  is  entirely  free  from  the  charge  of  error  or  omissioa 

we  win  not  ondertake  to  say,  bat  no  pains  have  been 

Oaken  Architectube  (4^'*  S.  ix.  424.)  —  A  spared  to  lender  each  blemishes  fow  and  unimportant  It 

steeple  with  wooden  supports  similar  to  the  belfry  is  twentr  years  since  thsbook  was  flnfc  prelected  rad  oq»- 

at  Newdigate,  described  by  Mb.  Gouoh  Nichols,  »•?«?  bjr  the  ;«^'J^«t!?^l!l!S^ 

«»»f;i  -T^^^u^ii^  «^;«+«^  ^iji^A^A^^  r^  ♦!.-.  ^-li  invited  the  co-operation  of  his  friend  Mr.  Cates,wliose 

untd  very  lately  existed  at  Lmdndge.  m  ttie  vale  excellent  DkihSarw  of  Gaural  Bioarapk^  pointed  him 

of  Teme,  Worcestershire.    A  shingle  spire  and  ont  as  a  fitted  assodate  In  soch  a  task ;  and  the  resolt  of 

belfry  stood  above  the  west  end  of  tiie  parish  their  Jdnt  laboan,  before  belns  committed  to  thepren^ 

church,  not  supported  by  the  rubUo  stone  walls  was  soUeeted  to  the  revision  of  the  Rev.  G.  W.  Cox,  the 

i£iSKl5'v%'hrir^^  ^rrie^ss^^ 

timber  placed  mtemally.    This  smgular  steeple  a  ^^  scsit^jTEmdoiie  more  to  seSMefor  tt  ^bTipSk 

few  years  smce  was  taken  down,  together  with  merits  of  OTmptotwMfi  snd  wmilrfwy. 

^e  entire  church,  and  another  buildmg  far  loss  j^  ^.^  ^  CWs^  OmMnHmiM  qf  l*«  Briiamkr 
picturesque,  with  a  stone  spire,  replaces  it.  I  pos-  irI^Sp^  iwMHnff  AdSat  httiUMkmw  ^  Sir  £dwaid 
sess  a  drawing  of  the  old  church  previons  to  its  CnMsy,  KJu  Anthor  of ''His  lOiA  sad  Irogvess  of  Ik* 
destruction.                            T.  K  WlHKlKeiov.         Eaj^  OoMtltntloe,''  «T1w  Blstoiy  of  Eni^aiid,'*  ftcu. 

fLoagmaas.) 


Joe  Miller  and  his  Jests  (Jk^  S.  ix.  428.)—         _  ^^ _,_^_    

Miller  died  in  1738,  and  shortly  aflerwacds  Ida    l^bo^'aTthsbgUCaiMitettabjaUiNI^ 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


'[4>»S.IX.  JtrmB.'Tt; 


>n.l  of  tl 


oT  the  Sroltioh  and  Anelo-Iriah  1^1Ututlnn^ 
wcetulvf  uniiini  of  l^nigl'ixlvitliSciitUnil,  and  of 
Btitnin  wirli  Iniland.  Thn  vcrv  canw  wliiirli  pni 
liJiii  rriiin  varrvin^  nut  at  (hat  iimr  Iih  urijjinBl  iilea,  nm  . 
TciDoval  III  (.'''yloii,  htt<  leil  tii  it)  Mill  riinlicr  cxteoiiau. 
Tlw  uri;niiat  (ilaii  Iuk  nnt  nnlf  been  rnrrifd  out ;  but  ' 
tliii  liaviri'j  liitn  ihinr.  thv  rett  if  tiir.  Ii»-ik  ia  d*vot«il  to  ' 
tho  Kfi"  m^f  uTiiiir  Kmpin  wlii>'h  i«  iinr»pri»«ntKl  in 
i'arliailiilil,  ti)  llie  Iiimitati-iii't  ot  tlie  Uilunim,  anil  to  '■ 
tbnik-  iif  (n-llii,  anil  tn  tbi-  muinur  in  wblvh  the  antburlty 
<>f  (b>>  c.'r.iwii  aiiJ  iif  I'l.rlioni'nt  in  t-xemsed  oi'erthnn. 
Thi;  wi<rk  ivillunratcilliTiirvenU  mnpi;  ami  the  aulhnr, 
carnnitlr  nml  verr  wlich-,  rxhiirla  thnw!  who  ii!ie  it  tii  ' 
avail  tbr-inHelve*  iiT  tlicir  aiili  (»  kniiwiv.l^'r.  I'lw  book 
Lionv  irhii'h  will  Ix-iuiwiitnldp  tu  a  laiu?  I'i.-un  of  rwdiin, 
anil  nKvlvc  a  llkit  indul:;(iir.  nliaru  oT  imlilip  favour  lu 
tliat  irbicli  {■pMiti.il  tlio  autbor'n  tiama  vulumc. 

liilOK4   HKRRIVKII. — W«   h»»B  brfiwe  US  ■  IlUinll*!   Of 

mail  liublir-jiliou4  wlijoh  eill  fin-  hrior  ii'itii^e  ami  ar- 
l(iunTl<'it:^u''nL  Amnni;  Itu-w  aroBninlirmtiDg^inynn 
Snugt  mW  Ihiffwlt,  illHitratid  bf  Ettti»,<l.t  from  Shatr- 

Kirr  iiHil  lioMe  airmul  n  LaiinuAire,  hg  iht  lait  Jnbn 
rlaiid.  I'.S.A.,  aiul  T.  T.  U'llkiniinn  rUralialU  Uvrr- 
pool ).— Th"  lint  imrt  nt  tlw  Ciiliilnguii  n/  Mi  Xhaiapiiire 
JfeMuriu/  IJhnrf  ( lliminchtm),  ly  T.  T.  MuIlitu^  eon- 
tiiininc  tlw  "BnuliKb  l-jlltiun-iiirsiiakn>pi«re'i<  Worlu.'' 
f  AllMi,  liirminiiliain.)— 7X«  FnniViVi  nf  R  ven  and  Phig- 
fair,  hv  ihr  Ki-v.  Uharlcx  Itonvn,  I.l,.l>.  (I'rlated  for  I'ri- 
vatn  ClreulalloiL) — Prmttdimqi of  Ijvrrpoat  SmmioKtiie 
Snritlii.  viM  I'biln.  (Uaail  &  Co.,  LlrvrpiHi].)— C«rin»'- 
iin«fAmmida»i\tgetablt  Lifr.  fiv  Jnbn  Timlii.  A 
nev  1-olnnu-  nfUTiffln'M  Hbillin:;  Manuili.— Cururfwiifiuf 
Itnmmm  Thm  LUbn  nn  tht  Amrrir-tit  IJortrimt  hg 
Snx<!-ilrit.  (Smith.  Klder,  i  L'o.)— And  IiikiIv.  a  Taluable 
liltin  vMnv.  S'lmt  fttlpt  in  tht  Sliulu  nf  StiOa-Crhie 
Phil.J.>iig,' hg  U'tA    N'eavp^   LI,.D.,   P-liiS-E.      <UlKk- 

idon  to  tbe  Inti!  Mr.  <Jnitp,liai  li«i'd  Mimduv  the  liiti 
bM.  for  tliu  dolivvry  of  his  inau^furul  iiddnuaiia  President 
oTtliv  llistnriial  Kurietj. 

Tnr.  SrHAHUiinn  Ijbiiary.— Tlie  pf)  firthi>  Kmrn-nr 
of  (irnnnny  to  thin  library  crni-J-itii  of  nearly  'I,<I0U  vi>- 
lumrs  uiid  a  nnnpiiiiod  of  valaiilili'  wntVi  nn  nrl,  travK 
uiid  1iii<tiir>-.  The  Kin;;  of  BavarU'ii  ;:in  <:.)aipTiM  TuO 
nduiiirs  iiuinly  of  histiiriual  woifcH. 

WaUWICK  <!a»TI.K  RKflllRATION  Fl'XI>.^TV  COntT!- 

hnlion^  in  tliii  fiinil  now  amount  t.i  njiivaida  of  a,UOU/„ 
BTiil  (hn  committal  pio|iOB«  to  I'loir.tliii  ntiNnint  iitinnly, 
aiiil  bniul  tup  jiTWicrJs  to  j,nril  W'nrvriisk.  SnbwilptioiiB 
uliuuhl  In-  at  inio«  fonranliii  to  Miindr]).  UinittH  tt  Co. 


,   IPn  iif  Sir  Iiwii!  ivLilinK  to  '•'icntillo  snbjvcti 
wlii'di  hi-,  lonlship  ]ia>i  inlu'ritnl.  Lonl  I'urtimnath'*  rM 
!•>  promjilcd  liv  thu  fnlin;;  tbnt  tlin>«  [lanvn  will  lie  ni> 
Ally  i[e}i"»itiHl  in  tbc  libnirj-  of  th^  uri»>.rsily  of  wlii 
Sir  Iikinc  wiii  m  dislblpiislml  an  ornament  than  in  I 
own  muniinrnt-niiimr--J'u//  Malt  CaiiUr. 

IIktii^Ai,  GiiRi-:.'*  Uiia^tcii  3Ii:sRuy.  —  Ilia  Royal 
IIl^hiii->4,  tlie  I'rinee  nf  \VaU!>i  baa  mmiiinnionted  to  ibe 
I.unl  I'rt^iilrnt  nml  the  Tiee-I'renidrnt  o(  the  CommittM 
of  Connvil  nn  Kdnratinn  bis  Intrntlon  uf  npvnini;  thin 
NationnI  Mniieam  oo  Uonilar,  June  34.  The  Ptinca  will 
bR  aeumpanied  1^  Hfr  Koi^al  Htghneas  the  Priimn  of 


Uttiittt  to  CoiTtCpantunU. 

Tixna'nYtAT  Book  «t  Vtrt*  hai  htm  pmliliiiitd  Mtifmr 
OB.;  U  «.i(iVn(  ty  Kl.    Sir  •■  S.  &  Q."  'if  Virek  80,  p.  270- 

W.  J.  ilKUHiiARD  Smith.— On  Aupi^  4  the  traMirt 
partiamtml,  itfitr  iin  utuinidnf  iltbatr,  liaidid  nn  lit  aiali 
IHM  o/ngiitul  pHHu/,a,t«l  bg  a  Hyin-t'iy  B/^tiS  to  J4G. 

U.  C.  A.  pRlon.— ^rfiWo  na  (Ae  Bitkin,;  Staff  a^ 
thr.  Oou  •unminsf  in  "  X.  &  d."  »i  S.  x.  35G,  4di  ;  ^ 
19:2;  4'k  S.1. '!»);.  .'iie  I  li.373;  iii.173.3C8. 

K.  Kl-wiiii.i.— ne  DaOitrmg  Oub  a  •vtticrd  I'a  tin  Be- 
minlMenoes  of  Hnnry  Aniwlo,  i.  306. 

A  tiCBHcninRn  (Horhni'V).— 7^^  Boic'e  Knifi  nctmd 

it*  ttamtfram  Gil.  Jni«f  Jtmcir,  bg  lelum  H  mt  i Irf 

Ht  mldtd  >■  /r-nKiniHii,  ImI  But  by  liirlh  a  Cenryi—  ; 
and  U  rtpnrtn-l  lo  tun  liett  a  nun  n/  duriag  and  of  grmt 
mutcutitr  ynttn. 

TUDHA^  KsHlHr.— 7'/ieo>-^ina/  pi^rt  TfliUng  to  At 
familg  «f  tur-j/i,,  U«k-,  «f  .V.«rm.  a.t>.  I52J-1642,  art  <> 
Me  BrUinh  Miiitvm.  AMil.  MS.  ■iifi-.W. 

v..  J.  (Lampeter.) — ll>  art  imiMt,  lo  our  rtgrti,  to  tV 

W.  A:(DiiKwa  TMutl).— A  rat  at  nmt  ptart  in  W^ 
vidMrr  Ihal  a  fcllitir  $tart»d  a  piMir^-Hir  xtar  Jbur 
i-iHtn,  >e!ih  i^hi  r/.jnrtirrlg  of  Ihc  Bear,  Me  Aagil, 
tht  Shili.  and  Iht  Thra  Cwpt.  Ifolking  datmltd,  hi  |n( 
npthr  U'kUt  Horn  at  hiit^,wHh  thr  foUnwity  pn^XElie 
rhyme,:— 

-  Mv  nm,  lt,.ni  aball  hite  the  Bmr, 

An>lnink.'lhe.4i^fli-; 
Sliall  turn  llw  SAiu  In-r  liottom  nn. 
And  drink  Ihu  lAne  Cupi  ilijO' 
J.  WII.I.I.UI4  (\V:<lw.>rlh).— 7^  nrd  gon  wtmttiim 
»ai(  bt  I'f  imulriit  mnanfitimn.    Ill  e-mpoiitian  mid 
Inul  law  III  iHfi/oiic  Ihiil  il  MRiiH  "gnldm  fciirrd." 

lilllT•^ — AnArt-Sluileiit  iiiMunich  h  (ieienrl  r^rmd 
III,      U'r  ftar  Ihr  ulhtr  IM  nwdd  be  t«n  lowg  far  am 


aa  u  guoraiitee  of  good  faith. 

We  beg  leave  In  tlnle  that  we  decline  to  ntniB  ODM- 
mnnicalinns  which,  fur  any  renMHi,  we  do  not  piiiit ;  tad 
to  thie  rule  we  can  make  no  exception. 

All  communications  ahoBld  be  addreaacd  to  V^MOm 
at  the  Office,  43,  Wellington  Stnt^  yiXi. 


4'^B.EC  JBSslE,7a.l 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


479 


lOSOOW,  SATUBBAT,  JUXB  \i,  187». 


QTIBKIES:- 


CONTENTS.— N*.  1 
KOTESt 

k\,4»i      ,„ 

Enatliab  MSS. /A.~Pa1e-L»tln  Alc^  Ode  -  eiugulv 
Win  —  On  in  IlluitnitiTe  QuoUiUon  Id  JoboMa  indWeb- 
ater  —  The  Mil""  Tii»«m  — "  Tn  Hnt  '  "  —  '  " 
—  Dtsudiit  -  " 

Liw  of  Uie  Gi_ _       .  . 

Amencsn  Oeuulo^  — Iron  SUpbnUiUDg,  Ml 

il  BuemI  — Bears'  Gicua  — BronB 
b  — ABnodls  of  QihvIh— Bubo  of 
Ufcne,  uisnop  oi  BadM^BT  —  "HyiaB*  Aodait  ud 
Mw]ern~  — liumermun:  H*uff  — Cnrrsnt  bWi  StnM 
B^lndi  ~  lAlrf.  Iats>,  lain  —  Lmrtbar  XMet,  CU- 
terlcli  Church -Uiiiimture  cTthe  Pbit  Dqke  of  H*rl- 
borounh  -  Nslson-g  TrU  of  Cbwiw  L — '  Tbs  Fuadiu  of 
Coquettca"~Oiru<if  A)w  to  Maadi  l>b«  wen  not  Be- 

uid  BiamOD  —  "  To  more  tlw  nnrfMU  (tottkn  "^^Mn 
C.  Kumscy  —  Stockton  —tbn  Toattne  oIlTW— TnrtOnii 

ElitHl  —  Woodland  In  Wert  Kent,  4M. 
BBFLIE8!  — MoraMio  iDTanturieiL  «7— Pudspy  Fimilv, 
/t.— Diuinn  "  t  la  BoHa,"  481  — ^  Beenl  tio(.-i<:ti<>«  of  the 
Wddle  AmB  "  — Tha  Gnmd  Smnt— BMorji  or  ihii  Vsu- 
dois  — Hjtanwj  — Bluk  Bain  — "TbaOnii.'ror  the  BoLr 
Week"  — Hiutbe Dog  — Prararta  —  OoL  Jolin  J<iii< «  ih>i 
-       BetflcldB  — "Llttia  Jock  Klltai"  — -Pi«i-. ,  ,,„  T..,,!,.,- 

4c.  — CockroKbaa  —  "  Black  John"- "H  i.     I^:' t  ,( 

Drum"  — Lineaon  thaMontht— Ajaof  Pi  J  -  i  t- 
daj'B  orer."  &o.  —  Sir  CollD  Campbell  wl  it  lakenuDD— 
HoTeliils'  Floweta- J.  A.  AtkiuKin  — -OM"or"Of«B" 
—  "  Wooden  Nutman"  —  "IieCur«da  Fontoiie:  Bd  re- 
vanant  de  Pun  lobe ''-"Make  a  Sridn  of  Gfdd,"  Ao.— 
Mr.  Lorr  Hjde'i  Uaniaes.  Ac,  «>. 
Notee  an  Booka.  Ac 


iSBignatlo 
.s  the  da 


COMIC  HEWSPAPERS. 

This  cliiBB  of  literature  is  of  Bach  ad  ephsmenl 
nature  that  it  is  desirable  to  commence  at  once  to 
trace  its  origin,  and  (ere  it  be  too  late)  jdace  on 
record  the  names  of  tJioee  publicatiana  which  hare 
appeared  from  time  to  time.  ' 

In  compiling  a  list  of  this  descripUon  it  is  diffi-  | 
cult  to  decide  wbetber  some  of  the  papen  issued  | 
during  the  Civil  War  and  Commonwealth,  or  j 
dimug  the  te\m  of  Queen  AnnS)  should  be  in< 
eluded,  or  whether  puUicatJona  of  the  lABtcentuiry 
of  the  Bon  Tun  cbaa,  with  indecent  platos  and 
immoral  writingB,  should  be  comprised.  The 
comic  newspaper  is  an  institution  of  uie  nineteenth 
century,  possee^in^  little  or  nothing  in  conunon 
with  any  publications  of  a  preceding  age. 

All  poriodicftl  publications  in  lie  MtgUA  Ian- 
ffua^e  (annuals  accepted)  of  a  &cetioDa,  witty,  and 
eatirical  character,  which  have  come  nndei  the 
writer's  notice,  are  included  in  the  aulyraned 
list  :— 

Jb'.  The,  iS3S. 

Antbrnit  If udiBn'i  Jounial.  il\iatnted,  wiMUO,  1K7 . 
Allusion 3  to  the  "Great  Exhibition "  and  " Lanra BaB " 
ahow  that  it  wiathe  republicilioa  of  a  prist  la  nltfsnec 
in  1851.    Ubaceue. 

ArT»!r,  The,  illuatraUd,  No.  8,  Aag.  80.  IWi. 

A  Word  mA  Fwtdi,  UlBstnK«d.  Bni«W  oirt  K 
Alfred  Bonn  ("  Hot  CrcM  Buu  "),  la  «bkk  te  ntfi(t«J 


ID  those  writen  in  Piach  who  wen  cdntinnalU  attsA- 
ag  him.    "No.  1,  to  be contionad  if  naeaseaiy. 

Banttr,  illualTatad.  Ifo.  1,  SapL  2, 1867. 

Bat.  Tht,  No.  1,,toL  liL,  Jons  20,  1865.    Beallftlia 

BdTM  Lift  GaOtTv  of  OamtBalilUt,  entirelj  illoatnted, 
lodaud.  Ktferencwinlfo.ltotbeDnkeorWamiutoa'a 
~  Charlea  WMberell,  and  thaBriatoTilota 
;  later  thin  18S2,  The  pape)  onnalsted  of 
of  thoas  ceiaic  etchings  which  had  ^*- 
i«ared  praviondT  in  StlFi  Lift. 

Black  and  WhU,  iUuatrated,  No.  4,  Jolf  S,  ISTl.   The 

i  jbenl  seettoa  of  tbe  paper  was  condootod  by  Artbu  k 

Ilacketl,  and  the  CoDsenratin  part  by  HantiUon  Hnnub 

BriHA  Lvm,  Tit,  llliutrtfad,  1860.    AUwit  alx  nnok- 

ban  wai«  p^Oliafaed. 

BMik,  TKc,  Ulnstrated,  No.  1,  Hvch  31,  ISfiB.  TIM 
vaa  a  m«at  approBriate  title,  aa  odIt  ons  nnmber  wia 
liabUihed. 

CtnOT,  71t<,Ko.  1,  Hay  J8, 1868. 
CharUf  ffaa,  iUnatnted,  nndatad,  1871.    Obaaan^ 
agar,  Tlu,  uliutnted.  Nor,  18M.    Weekly,  S3  pp. 
C&me'i  Paaw  GaMtU,  '  Ollutnled  with  eota  oowk 
and  MUrioal,"  lB87. 
Cbai^TVKa-l.Sapt.lsei.    Honthly. 
Oomie  If-Bt,  TkM,  illDrtntwl,  No.  1.  Jao.  S,  18C4. 
Ko.  68,  March  14, 1865,  ths  last  nuvbai.  £dU«d  ^  a.  jr. 

Cnv,  nt  (OMstaTfield),  fflutnted.  Ho.  1,  8^  10, 
1868.    "To  ba  pBUiabed  aeoordiaK  to  Um  lUto  tf  th* 

Dai^  Hu,  Qluatratal  No.  1,  Un  10, 1870,    Obta^M. 

DiesBM,  lUnstratad,  No.  1,  Jan.  1, 1368. 

Earwig,  The,  lUastnted,  Ko.  1, 1864.  PnblMMd  an- 
naally  in  July  ducinc  tba  mmbladoo  Ula  H«atb«. 
Tbia  title  was  dKMD  In  reoienibniws  of  the  peat  nwter 
ofearwlgtwbldiinTMtadtheoi — 

£akwJhist«>CU«ir    ' 

Fat  I^t,  ffloMnud,  It 
eatiwa  are  sent  to  blaxes." 

f en^  7%f,  iUoitiated,  tsas.    Tba  ascood  musbat  «N ' 
■eked  by  the  poHce.    ObacBoe. 

FifaTO,  No.  1,  Uay  17, 1,870.  A  dafly  bnmonn*  paper, 
■abaequDllr  changed  to  a  weekly  paper  with  eaitoooa. 

ngaro'i  CariuOiirt  Gallarw,  Uluatntad,  No.  fl,  Nor.St, 
1884. 

ngan  n  Xondoii,  illnatratad.  So.  SOO,  Oct.  8,  ISSC 


0.6.  Kay  1.1987. 


No.  I4S,  Jan.  1B70.    . , 

ly**  Lmca  (HacehcatR'). 

F<m,  i1Iastrated'(Ne<>r  Berk«),No.  74,  OoL  IS,  U68 
Commsnoed  in  1861. 

Omttf  OiatlU,  TXiv  mostratad.  No.  1,  Oot  16, 1869 
Thia  papotemaDalad  (ton  the  Galatr  Tbcatra. 

G^Bf  of  Qmiaaitia,  Ulni^ated,  K 
Monthly. 

Onmblir,  Tla,  Illutratad,  No.  8,  Dae.  S,  1870. 

J^/JMmf  Pnel,   ns,  niHtntea.  V«.  1,  ia§.  M.. 

SaiH  Bnltmam,  UlnstiaMd,  N«  1,  Jdr  >t  U7L 
Harttqmn,  Tk*  (Oxford),  iUmttMid,  Ha.  1,  Maidk  10^ 

Htntt,  na,  OlditTStad.    Cownwiead  is  1886  as  Ob    ' 
JBaniMf  Hormtt  the  loaal  *Ht"i*'in  was  diofpei  In 
1870. 

SlMlnaad  Omelrtn,  71^  He.  1,  JnM  1,  IBST,  TUa 


Ld^fpeHalia 


480 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i""  S.  IX.  Ju!f  B  15,  Tl^ 


7m,  illu8tnite<1.  **  A  serio-comic  monthly  magaziae.*' 
New  SSeriefl,  No.  1,  June,  18fi8. 
Judy^  iHu8tratcd,  No.  .'t,  May  15,  IHtiT. 
Knight  Errant^  The,  illufltrated.  No.  44,  May  27,  1871. 
London  I^ntern^  The,  No.  5,  Sept.  5,  18<)8.     An  Eng- 
lish translation  of  Ilonri  Kocheforfit  notoriuufl  paper. 

Looking  (JtivtM,  Thcy  entirely  illustrated.  No.  1,  Jan.  1, 
1830. 
Magpie,  The  (MulboumeX  >'o.  2,  Oct.  1'7,  lH«;:i. 
lUtin  in  the  M(nm,  The,  illu-t rated,  ixiH.    Albert  Smith 
and  Shirley  Jirooks  wen*  contril)iiti>rs. 

3Ia»k,  The,  ill u.st rated   bv  Alfred  Thompson,  No.  1, 
Feb.  lt<C8.     Mimthly. 

3frt.  Brnuns  Butiyet,  iWuArati'd.  "So.  1,  -Vuj;.  1,  1H70. 
Conducte«l  by  Artliur  Sketfhley. 

JVick  Xaz  (New  York),  illustrated,  Vid.  xviii.,  No.  1. 
Mav,  1872.     Monthly. 

Once  a  Jreek,  No.  230,  May  2.^  1872.  New  S^Tics.  'Ifie 
cartoons  were  connn»?nee<l  Jan.  (J.  1872. 

Ofcl,  The,  No.  U)yy:>,  May  11,   18«:i.     Uoaily  the  thinl 
number. 
Pasuuin,  illuAtratod.    Kdited  hy  Sutherland  Mdwards. 
Paul  Pry. 

Penny  Punch,  TUv,     Kdited  by  I)i>uglas  Jerrold. 
Penny  Satirixi,  Th»\  illustnitcil.  No.  1,  April  22,  18r»7. 
Thid  paper  had  an  exi.stenee  of  at  lea^t  ei^ht  years  a^  ita 
notorious  editor  Harnard  Gregory  was  found  jjuilty  of 
libelling  the  I)uki>  of  Brunswirkin  June,  18ir>.    It' had 
been  stated  in  this  print  that  the  duke  wa.s  iniplicatod  in 
the  murder  of  Kliza  CJrecnwood.  an  *'  unfortunate  *'  who 
wa.-*  murdered  at  12,  WelliuL^ton  Terrace,  Waterloo  Koad, 
during:  the  ni^^ht  of  Mav  2.">-2n.  1H3M. 
Period,  The,  illustrated,  18G8. 
Peter  Spy,  illu.-^trated,- 1 80  1.     Obscene. 
Phunny  PhtUow,  The  (New  York),  illustrated,  vol.  xii., 
No.  (J,  Mav,  is  72.     Mont  hi  v. 
Politico)  Playbill,  The,  illustrated,  July,  IHG,"). 
Political  Statjet  The,  illu>trated,  No.  1,  Sept.  183.V 
Porcupine  (Liverp«>ol),  vol.  vi.,  No.  20j;,  :Mptenil>er  17, 
lf<«M. 

Punch  :  or,  the   London   Charivari,  ilbftratoil.  No.  1, 
Julv  17,  ISII. 

Punch  (Melbourne). 

Punch  and  Judy,  illu-itrate  1,  No.  1,  Oct.  H,  ISilO. 
Punchinello,  illustrated  by  George  Cruik^thank. 
Puppet  Show,  illu^itrated. 
Quiz,  edited  by  Littleton  Ilolt. 
Quiz,  illustrafed.  No.  1,  Oct.  28,  1«08. 
Razor,  The,  illustrated.  No.  1,  Jan.  1,  IKfis. 
Sensation  Journal,    The,  illustrate<l,    undated,    1807. 
Obscene. 

Seyiiinur^s  Comic  Scrap  Sheet,  illu.st rated,  1^'.')7.*  Nine 
numbers  published. 

Sfjuih,  The,  iUustrated,  No.  1,  May  28,  1S42.    Edited 
by  (iilbert  a  Beckett. 

Times  for  lOCl,  The,  ISGl.  One  number  only  published, 
pricf  one  shilling;. 

Tohy,  illustrated.  No.  1,  Oct.  23,  18<I7. 
Tomahtmk,  illustrated.  No.  1,  May  11.  18r>7.     Edited 
by  Arthur  ii  Beikett. 

Town,  The,  illustrated.    Commcncefl  in  1837.     Kenton 
Nicholson's  ("The  Lord  Chief  Baron")  pap.-r. 

Toirn,  The,  illustrated,  undated,  1^07.    About  twentv- 
live  numbers  published.     Obscene. 
Town  Crier  (Himiingham). 

TV)!*;*  Talk,  illustrated  (New  Series).  No.  3,  Mav  30, 
1859.  •        ' 

Vanity  Fair,  No.  1.  Nov.  7,  18G8.    Tlie  rartoons  were 
Commenced  on  Jan.  30,  18<>'J. 

Jl^aitp,  The,  illustrated,  1K70.     Obscene.  I 

/^A//;jyer/f.f  and  ^Vaggtritf,  No.  1,  Sept.  1830,    Carica-  I 


WiU-o'-ihfWiMp,  iUnstnted,  Ko.  16,  Dec  16, 1868. 
Wondtr  and  Novtitji,  1837.  Sabaequentlr  incoipontod/ 
with  The  Fly, 

It  may  be  noted  as  a  singular  fact  that  ten 

Eipera  of  a  humorous  character  were  started  in 
ondon  in  1867,  onl^  one  of  which  (Judy)  \m  now 
in  existence.  It  will  be  seen  by  the  foref^ing. 
catalogue  that  the  oldest  comic  papers  mentioned 
are  The  Ciaar,  published  in  1824,  and  The  Look- 
ing Glass,  brought  out  in  1830.  Doubtless  some 
of  the  readers  of  *'N.  &  Q."  can  supplement  the 
above  list^  and  supply  dates  where  they  are  .want- 
ing. Willi  AX  Katneb. 


lures  by  S.*ymour. 


CHAUCER  AND  DANTE. 
THE  PRAYER  TO  THE  VIRGIN  IN  THE  SECOXB  KVS'n 

TALE. 

Can  you  find  room  to  set  feide  by  side  three 

stanzas  of  Chnuccr  and  their  original^  the  opening  of 

the  thirty -third  canto  of  the  Paradiso  t  Dr.  Husen- 

beth  has  been  good  enough  to  look  at  the  passage 

in  order  to  see  if  he  could  recognise  any  Latiiu 

original  of  this  Address  to  the  Virgin,  and  says — 

**  There  are  some  striking  ideas  in  it  that  I  hare  never 
met  with  elsewhere,  such  as  *  dou^htcr  of  thy  Son/  *■  As^ 
sembled  is  in  thee  magnificence,*  &c.  ThcVe  are  some 
expressions  like  some  of  Chanoer^s  in  the  Ion*;  hvnm  of 
St.  Casimir,  which  some  consider  that  he  di<l  not  bimself 
compose,  but  adapted  from  a  much  older  writer,  whoever 
he  was.  Also  in  the  eloquent  Ih  Laudibus  Dei  Ceni' 
tricis  Mario-  of  St.  Kphrem,  occur  many  noble  epitheta 
and  phrsM's  which  Chaucer  may  have  seen ;  but  I  cannot 
fmd  his  language  anywhere  exactly.** 

Mr.  W.  M.  Ilossetti  alsi^  informs  me  that  the 
Dante  conmientators  have  not  pointed  out  any 
original  of  these  lines  of  his.  Why  I  suspected 
sudi  an  original,  treatdd  freely  by  both  poets,  was 
on  account  of  the  alteration  and  omission  by 
Chaucer  of  some  of  Dante *s  lines,  and  the  inser- 
tion of  others. 

The  line-numbers  below  refer  to  Dante's  linet. 

I  do  not  know  who  first  identified  Chaucer's 
stanzas  with  Dante's ;  perhaps  Mr.  XL  Bradshaw 
or  Prof.  Bombard  ten  BrinK.  (P.S.  Mr.  Long- 
foUow  quotes  them  in  his  translation  of  the  Para- 
diso.) 

Chaucer's  Cant.  TWes,  group  9,  §  1, 11.  SG-56 
(ed.  R.  Bell). 

(6.) 

Thou  mavde  and  moder,  doughter  of  thi  sone.  1 
Thow  welle  of  mercy,  synful  sooles  cure 
In  whom  that  (irod  of  bountet  ches  to  wone  :  3 
Thou  humble  and  heyh  over  every  creature.  2 
Thow  nobeleat  so  ferforth  oarc  nature,  4 
That  no  disdeyn  the  maker  had  of  kynde,  5 
His  sone  in  blood  &  fleisah  to  clothe  &  w^mde.  S 

Withinne  the  cloyster  of  thy  blisfbl  svdes,  7 
Took  manncs  schap  the  etenial  love  &  pees,  8 
That  of  the  trine  compas  lord  and  gayde  is. 
Whom  erthe,  and  see,  and  beren  ont  of  releet 
K^  Yi«i\«^\  and  thoQi  viigine  wemmele^ 


4<'aiX.  June  15,72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIE& 


481 


(»■) 

Assembleil  a  in  the«  iDignificencc 
With  mercy,  goodneaa,  and  with  such  pitee,  lS-21 
Th»t  thou,  lliat'art  Ihe  loiiiie  of  excellence, 
Sot  oonl}-  hdpiet  bem  that  priyeo  the 
But  often  cyme  of  thy  benigiiiC«  16-17 
Fal  frelv,  er  that  men  thin  help  biwche, 
ThoQ  gost  bifom,  and  art  her  lyftg  leche.  17-lS 
Dute's  Paradisn,  Canto  xxxlii.  II.  1-21  (,ad.  1671). 

1  Vergine  madre,  fi{;lia  del  tno  flglio, 

2  Ilnmil  &  alta,  piii  cba  oreMon, 

3  Termine  liwa  d  etenio  consigUo. 

4  Tu  ee'  colei  che  l'  hnmana  natura 

5  Notililiati  s\,  che  '1  an  fattore 

6  "Son  si  EdegD6  di  fanri  sua  fktinn. 

7  Nel  ventre  too  si  raeoese  1'  unore, 

8  Per  lo  cui  caldo  nell'  eleraa  pacg  ; 
Cosl  h  genuinato  qaeito  fiorc 

Qnl  ae'  i  noi  meridiana  (kca 
Di  charitate,  k  gituo,  intra  nortali 
9e'  di  speranzB  fentana  livacc. 
Donna,  ;e  tanlo  gmnde,  &  tinto  Tall 
Che  qual  vuol  gratia,  &  k  te  Don  ricoire, 
Sua  disianzB  vuol  volar  uiu'  ali. 
IS  La  ,tna  benignity  Qon  poi  socone 
17      A  chi  (timanda  ;  ma  molts  flata 
IS      Lib«raiDente  al  dimandar  piecoirs 
19  In  te  miierieordia,  ia  l«  pietate, 
SO       In  te  magnifieentiv ;  in  ta  a'  adnna 

Qaaotanqne  in  ciealnra  6  di  bontaCe.   . 

F.  J.  FnamvALL. 


THE  REMAINS  OF  PIZABBO: 


for  the  sole  purpose  of  examiDuig  what  are  said 
to  be  the  Temains  of  Frandsco  I^iuio.  Detcend- 
ing  the  steps  from  the  north  nde  of  the  chutch, 
and  turning  suddenly  to  the  left,  a  few  atepa 
.  brought  rue  to  a  niche  having  a  curtain  anapended 
before  it.  Raising  thia  curtain,  the  body  (aud  to 
be)  of  PizaiTo  is  exposed  to  view,  with  the  head 
Ivmg  towards  the  east.  Frescott  (PerUj  book  \y. 
cnap.  V.)  quotes  firotn  Caravantee,  who  say  a,  apeil^ 
ing  of  the  conqueror — 

"  Sos  huesfls  enccrrsdoa  en  nna  caia  gnaineclda  d« 
tereiopelo  mor.-ido  con   pasamanoa  de  oro  qa«   yo  be 

At  present  thb  is  far  from  being  conect  Th« 
body  is  partiallr  wrapped  in  a  blkCK  ailk  cloak  (P), 
and  in  linen  ot  a  coarsiah  texture  and  of  two  or 
three  colours.  Here  and  there  thin  {ueces  of  gold 
omamentation  etill  adhere  to  the  gumenta.  The 
feet  and  legs  to  the  knees  are  bare ;  the  upper  part 
of  the  chest  is  also  bare.  The  akin  from  thiapart 
of  the  body  is  partly  gone,  learing  the  intmioT 
of  the  thorax  exposed  to  view.  The  head  ia  in 
its  proper  position ;  and  the  lower  jaw  is  still  in 
its  place,  but  the  teeth  are  all  gone,  the  last  bar- 
ing been  "appropriated"  by  a  wodonan  at  the 
funeral  of  the  late  archbisbopi    The  left  lifiid  it 


miaung;  and  the  right  arm  has  fallen,  or  been 
removed,  from  the  sEoulder.  The  body  ia  not  in 
a  coffin,  but  resta  on  a  board  of  about  nine  inches 
in  width.  Between  the  body  and  this  board  ia  a 
thin  layer  of  what  looks  like  lime.  Cotioosly 
enough  this  board  rests  on  the  dried  remuna  of 
another  body,  but  whose  it  was  no  one  seema  to 
know.  The  head  of  thia  body  haa  been  removed, 
and  now  lies  under  the  feet  of  Fizarro.  If  of 
Pizarro,  what  sort  of  a  man  was  heF  Froni 
meaaurementa  I  made,  his  height  was  not  mAre 
than  five  feet  seven  inches,  with  a  breadth  acroai 
the  chest  from  shoulder  to  shoulder  of  MTeoteen 
inches.  The  head  gives  a  poor  idea  of  th«  nuui> 
The  forehead  is  very  narrow,  very  low,  and  lapdly 
recedes ;  but  this  want  of  frontal  developanat  is 
more  than  compensated  for  by  the  giut  sin  of 
t^e  back  part  of  ths  sknlL 

There  are  sereral  mnmiDied  bodies  in  the  TBnU^ 
most  (^  them,  like  tUi,  being  namclcsi^  sad  it  is 

fails  poasible  that  soma  lata  worthy  nun  m^ 
ave  usurped  I^iam'a  place.  It  ia  hardly  like^ 
that,  when  Fiiarro'a  body  waa  removed  to  the 
cathedral  in  1007,  they  would  place  it  on  snothtt  ' 
bodr.  Of  "  MeudozB,  the  iriae  and  good  Vicsroy 
of  Peru,"  of  whom  FMscolt  roeaka  aa  resting  nde 
by  side  with  Fisarro,  I  could  leam  nothing,  and 
could  see  nothing  to  distisguish  him  fnmi  bis 
grim  companions.  J.  M.  CoWTlL 

Lima,  April  17, 1871. 


THOSESBT'S  BABLT  ENGLISH  MSS. 

At  the  «nd  of  Dr.  Whitaker's  edition  of  Ralpb 
Thoreiby'a  DuealMi  LeotUauii  is  a  catalogue  of 
the  museum  of  antiquities  ef  that  indostriona 
antiquary.  Uanoscripta- formed  no  inconsiderable 
porbon  at  its  tieatures.  Among  them  were  a  few 
early  English  ones,  of  which  I  send  yon  notes. 

Iliis  catalogue  of  Thoretby's  libnry  ia  in  tlie 
bands  of  few  except  coUectots  of  Yorkshire  topo- 
pr^hr.  Aa  the  books  have  long  been  disperssd, 
it  will  be  useful  to  give  publici^  in  yonr  pages  to 
the  f^  that  these  English  HSS.  were  once  in  oc- 
istencet  Itisonly  by nddng  npthestiqr lUfdoM 
to  be  fotmd  in  sneh  pUocs  sa  tnese  that  wa  oaa 
ever  know  what^wM  tho  foil  weslth  of  our  aai^ 
literatuTe.  E.  P.  D.  £. 


•>  Sir  knygfatls  take  hsed  hydlr  in  hy^" 

[T1i«  sdilor  ssn  in  a  note  IhM  thlsUEL  "was  aflswiris 
boogbt  at  Mr.  Balph  ThiMaby,  Jon.  lala  by  Un  HmL 
Horaos  WslptOt."] 

•■TlMFiataslts<<  OUT  LsdjM  Psalter  In  the  Ctts'sf 
Cc^towUoh  ourvadar  tha  Pops  Slztna  that  now  }• 
hath  gnotsd,  tbst  tdM  SM  win  ny  the  laid  PmUw  dB*s 
Intba  write  prsytagtbr^hntboan  and  datan  sbdl 
bsvs  U  y«r  snaUlMtssaBaBted  to  Um  st  thsFstitka 
irf  iniiaMWi.  Istit  ifiOmt  nfBMgsnda*    Ua, 

[Bfa^alh  «f  T«ik^  wl»  if  Hwj  lbs  BsfsaO.  If  te 


482 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


L4«>S,IX.  Ji'3rEl5.72. 


<t 


Trpnti««e  of  the  ilispofirion  of  tlic  seven  IMnnots  and 
V2  Si^iu's,  in  the  circle  that  is  clepcd  in  tho  ZikUao,  of 
thft  eler'tion  of  Hour:4,  ^n."    4to. 

f  Bound  up  with  an  Almanac  of  tlio  year  13 in.] 

**0f  tlie  WVrhh'.s  un.stal»iln<vs  and  luaiuTs  of  men  yt 
yen*  in  rs.  Of  Deile,  Doilc  is  to  drcdo.  Of  the  imync  of 
purgatory  .  .  .  ." 

"  1.  Tin?  tyllin^e  of  trcos  aftir  (iodfray  nppon  Palladie. 
2.  A  Tr«.t<'c  of  Ni('hola*j  JJullaid  dcpartitl  in  ;t  Parties  .  .. 
l\.  A  Troatist'  of  Cookery  in  <dil  10ij;xlisli,  hut  the  Title 
French — Ma?  manicrc  pour  rost,  l»ull<r,  it  frier  divene8 
rc?>^iiis.'  4.  The  para}  llous  dayi'3  of  tlie  yivru.  A.  Mctle- 
cynes  of  niaister  Williuni  du  .lordync  <•'.  A  mo^t  pit^ms 
<.'hn»niclo  of  thorriblc  d«!lUe  of  tiaincs  Sti?warde  Iaj<t  i 
kyni;  of  St'otys,  nought  Ion;;  a^one  pri.Miner  yn  Knp^landc 
vn  the  tinws  of  the  kvni'iis  Heiirve  the  fifte  and  lI'.Mirvc 
the  Mxte,  translated  out  of  I.afynr  into  our  nioders  Kn^;- 
liahc  tonjj:  hi  your  syinph'  Sulijoct  .lohn  Shirley.  7.  An 
approbate  Treite  for  th«!  IVMilence  ....  8.  Tlw  desifid  I 
peace  betwi-ne  Siirisinomlo  emperour  and  Kiujc  Henry. 
IK  The  IJoke  cleped  hrs  liones  Meures  translated  out  of 

French  hy John   Shirley  <if  L«Midon,  Anno  1 1 1f> 

.  .  .  .  10.  Tlio  Governance  of  Kvnjjes  and  l*rinccst  ,  .  .  ." 
4to. 

**ThoT.p;rend  of  Ladyse,  viz.  T-ucre<e.  Adryana.  Phylo- 
inpTu\  IMiylk"^,  Ypa^my^.tro,  and  Sy.-niondi.  in  old  Kn:jj- 
lishe  liliinie  .  .  .  ."     4to. 

**  A  treii«i  compiled  of  a  ]n)re  citif,  of  ye  bileev*',  yc  ten 
hee^ti-*,  ami  ye  pater  nostcr  ....  l>y verse,  chapiiris 
exciliiii;  nii'U  an<l  wyiu'-n  to  hcveuli  dc-yr.''     8vo. 

••Welkum  Lordc  in  fournie  of  brfdc"     Ji'vo. 


Pot.f:. — II  ifl  ratlicr  venturous?  t)  (lijr«>r  fmm  po  j 
arcur;it(?  and  prin-tMlviDy  h  sohidar  as  Col.  ^'ult»,  I 
who,  in  hiM  adniirnld'*  Lt/c  of  Af^n-ro  J\t/(f,  i«b'Ti-  i 
tilit'H  tlui  birds  in  th<'  old  traveller's  arms  with  tho  ' 
pole  in  Dante's  7*i/;v/<^/.>o,  xxi.  o4-o.K  and  supp<\so3  \ 
them  to  represent  jackdaw.^.  The  dirtionaries,  as 
lie  jn«tly  says,  throw  no  trustwitrthy  li^^ht  upon 
tho  matter,  and  1  wonld  snij^je.-t  that  piiS'^ildy 
**  le  polo  "  may  bo  only  an  arelmie  feminijio  ]dural 
form  of  pulio^  a  fowl,  after  all.  If  .-^o,  the  ivii.<.*a;:o  " 
ini;L,'Lt  refer  to  bird;?  in  general,  and  to  no  parti-  i 
ciilar  kind  or  species :  jmd  thus,  as  far  a.i  my  own  i 
(denervation  pfnes,  wonld  be  moro  trii»'  to  uaturo  I 
than  if  applied  either  to  jaekdaw.^,  o]\  a^  some  | 
take  it,  to  ro(»k.<i.  As  rei^nrdri  tlu^  latter,  they  i 
usually,  I  think,  aet  in  coiirert.  It  is  not  tho  ru-e  . 
that  some  *:o  away  and  others  stay  behind,  but  ! 
thev  eithrr  all  iro  (^r  all  stay  to;jeth<T;  wherea?«  it  I 
IS  d(»ubtli'ss  true  that  the  instinirt.  of  soniL'  l)irds  I 
leads  them  to  ab.'indon  tlndr  ronstini^'-place  at  1 
dawn,  wliU.-t  oth"r^  tak«'  nn  early  wliecdinir  lli^'bt, 
and  tinMi  return  and  ?tay  in  the  vicinity  tlirou^rh- 
oiit  the  day.  '  C.  W.  r»i\GH.\ii. 

liATix  Alcaic  Odv.. — In  SrU'rta  Povmata  An- 

fflot'nm  is  a  bejintifurode  in  T.atin  Alcaies,  to  which 

the  initials  *'  K.  L.'*  are  appended.     Tho  copy  of 

tho  b<»ok  in  my  possession  is  the  Edith  ^emntla 

J^mefidatlo)\  piil)li8hcd  at  London  by  Dodsley  in 

1770,  and  it  cont&ms  some  exceWont  \iivt\i\  ^wm* 

by  various  uuthors.     Tho  ode  mentioiiod,  ^x^^^AftCl 

by  the  title  ''Simplex  Munditiis,"  commeTvceax— 


**  Vann?  sit  arti,  .sit  Madio  modn». 
FornKi^a  vir;;o !  9it  ^perido  quics, 
Curainque  iiua'rendi  decoris 
Mitte,  tiupon'acuottque  cultus. 

'*  Vt  fortuitis  vcma  colorihun 
Depicta  vul^>  rura  nia^is  placeat. 
Nee  invidcnt  horto  niteiiti 
DivitisA  op«rosiores,"  et  seq.,  pp.  67.  6s. 

The  whole  poem  m  very  henutiful ;  but  if  tran- 
scribed at  length,  n)ii;ht  occupy  too  much  of  the 
valuable  spaco  of  **  N.  &  Q.''  '  Edmond  Malone 
ascribes  its  authorship  to  Dr.  Johnson  in  a  note 
on  chapter  iv.  in  Bo^wvlFs  Life.^*  but  not  on  very 
suiiicient  grounds.  Malone  mentions  the  ode  hav- 
ing? api^eared  in  the  (rcnilemmts  Magazine  for  1743 
(xiii.  54S),  and  "havinp  been  many  years  ago 
p«)intod  out  \a)  James  Hindlev,  Esq.,  ha  written  by 
Johnson,  and  may  safely  be  attributed  to  him." 
The  translation  into  l^atin  hflxamotcrs  of  Pope's 
Mvmah  is  jriven  in  the  ^electa  Ponmiii  Anf/lorum, 
and  appended  to  it  the  name  '*  S.  Johnson,  A.M., 
17r>0";  and  if  the  Alcaic  ode  was  rt*allv  his  pro- 
duction, why  was  it  not  claimed  f<ir  hini  in  the 
book  r*     He  was  fully  equal  to  its  coinp«.>sition. 

John  Pickfokd,  M.A. 

Ilungati*,  IMckcrinjr. 

SixiiULAU  Will. — The  following  is  an  extract 
from  the  will  of  John  Farmer,  who  died  in  Ger- 
mantown,. Philadelphia  county,  in  the  year  1704: 

*'  I  do  herehv  order  my  excoutors  to  put  no  new  lin*n 
.ihout  my  dead  Imily,  hui  ',>iil  my  w<tr"<t  nliirt  on  it,  and 
my  \%('r.st  handkerchief  on  theht-ad.  and  the  worst  drawers 
and  hrceelu'S  on  my  body,  and  the  worst  stockings  on 
my  legs  nrxl  f»H't,  and  invite  iny  nei^hhoursi  to  come  to 
my  Hpouse.  who  shall  trerit  thi'Ui  in  moderation  with  a 
barn  1  t»f  eifler  and  two  pdlons  of  rum  or  other  .spiritDoaft 
drink,  nnd  a  bushel  of  wheat  tlonr  bnki.il  into  cakeo:  and 
when  thry  are  rvady  loearry  thr;  eiiri»."«e,  then  in  tfa^liouw 
or  yard,  read  the  fore^oin;:  and  following;  part  of  this  tes- 
tament loudly,  !>o  that  all  may  hear  it.  And  also,  itoread 
it  nt  tlje  ^,-rave  In-fore  my  body  is  buried  (if  the  weather 
be  fit  for  it)  that  though  when  I  e-annot  speak  with  mv 
mouth,  I  may  speak  by  this  writing  to  provoke  the 
hH;!rei*;«  to  love  the  Alndujbty  Cnu],  t-he  Kath<-r,  and  the 
Lord  ih^us  (;hri>t,  II  is  Si^m,  and  the  Holy  G lion  which 
pr«ii-«  .d.  f  li  fnnii  tho  rather  a!id  tlie  Son.  and  is  the  Com- 
iortt-r  nf  all  CIiriMian.'i.*' 

Philuhlphia.  , 

(\V   AN  Il.H'STRATIVK    QVOTATION    IN  JoHNSOX 

AND  Wi:nsTi:rL — In  JolinMn  a  D{(^vt»m'rf  (-J  vols. 
4to,  l^i'O),  at  tho  word  '* Motion,''  synonym 
so  von  til,  ar»»  tho  following  linea  containin*^  the 
word  to  bo  illustratod :  — 

*•  f\'ft!se,  cea*e,  thou  fiviminf;  orean, 
For  what'A  thy  troubled  motitm 
T.)  that  within  my  brcju«t  ?  ** — Gay, 

These  have  been  transcribed  without  verifira- 
tion  into  tho  last  edition  of  Webster,  with  the 
addition  of  what  appears  to  be  a  typographical 


4»»>S.  IX.  Jl'Ni:  1"),  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


483 


error,  viz.  Gay  is  printed  "Ctrny."    The  quotfttion 

is  otherwise  incorrect,  and  should  be  as  follows : — 

"  Cease,  ociso.  thou  crwl  ocean, 
{"And  1ft  my  lover  re^t :  | 
Ah  !  what's  thy  troubled  motion 
To  that  williin  my  breast?  " 

The  lines  are  taken  from  "  A  Ballad ''  iu  the 

IVhfit  jyyc  Call  It  /  a  tragi-comi-pastoral,  by  Gay, 

concerning  which  the  poet  Cowper  writes  as  fol- 

l(jws  to  his  friend,  the  IJev.  AV.  Unwiii :  — 

•'  What  can  be  prettier  than  Gay 
Switt's  Arbuthnoi.'s,  J*ope'.s   and 

ITye  CiUI  It  ? — '  'Twas  when  the  Fcas  were  roaring '  ?  I 
have  bpvn  well  informed  that  they  all  contribute<l,  and 
that  the  most  fflcrbrnted  association  of  clever  felloe's  this 
country  <'vcr  saw  did  not  think  it  beneath  them  to  unite 
their  strcn.^th  and  abilities  in  the  composition  of  a 
song." — C'-'U-ji/r  to  Cnu'iTL,  August  4,  1783. 

James  Miller. 

Free  Library,  Paisley. 

TiiK  ^riTiu:  Tavern. — It  may  interest  some  of 
voiir  London  readers  to  know  that  The  Mitre 
Tavern  is  nientinned  in  the  Coyinnons  Journals  for 
Marcli  .*U,  lOo-}.  Sir  Tlionias  Walsinprham,  Kut., 
a  parliament  man,  was  arrested  for  debt  on  Feb- 
ruary 0  in  that  year  at  Chancery  Lane  end,  and 
was  kent  in  custodv  at  Tiie  Mitre  until  bail  was 
obtained.  Cornub. 

"L\  Hot  Water-/'  '* Bored."— The  following 
notes  may  be  u>i*i"nl  to  students  of  our  lanjruage. 
*'  Wo  are  k'pt,  t<>  n.^e  the  modern  piirase,  in  hot 
water,"  writes  Mrs.  Harris  to  her  son,  the  lirst 
Lord  Mal!n'\'hury,  in  July,  17<>5  (MalmcAhmj 
Corrc-pouflnirr,  i.  li^o),  A  hundred  years  ago, 
then,  it  would  seem,  this  familiar  phrase  was 
new  to  ears  polite.  I  find  liord  Carlisle  (April, 
17(W)  u>in;^^  the  W(>rd  "bored  "  in  its  present  col- 
loquial s»'n.-!o  ij\  a  letter  to  (ieorge  Selwyn  about 
the  SMiUt?  tii'iM  {(jLorgc  i^elwi/n  and  his  Contem- 
poraries, ii.  -JIH  ).  C.  X.  IJ. 

DuA UG ii'i  -  '•  Movi:."  —  IlalliweH's  Dictionary 
(with  nio^t  oihfT^)  interprets  **  draught '' =;)wwyi. 
in  Morris's  linlw  (tf  tlie  iJnchesm  ([uiqh  G52,  Gsl, 

'*  \Vi!li  bir  f.il  !•  flruifahf.:<  dyvr-r.s." 
"  I  w   1  !••  li.ivi-  (I'n/u-c  tliC  s:in;c  drnufjlitv."' 
'*'15ut  thr  >.,'li  tliat  dramjht  I  have  borne" — 
drnuffat  ceriaii'ly  equals  the  move  itself,  and  not 
th«j  picc'L'  nio\"l.     In  the  chess  scene  oi  Beryn 
(l*»Tov  So!-.)  wi-  h\\\o  conlirmator>'* evidence  — 
*'TiiLj  b.ur.;<  v.^,-  ♦.)!;('  iivv^ment  hmgon  evurv  dranaht." 

'  (1.  1777.) 
**  Draw  on.  ^(}y'\  the  burgeyse."     (I.  1^0'.) 
**Tlie  next  ilmu-^ht  aftir  he  toko  a  rook  for  nouq-ht.'* 

(1.  1810.) 
*•  He.  droii'jJic  and  soy.l,  Chek  mate."     (1.  1820.) 

While  I  am  upon  chess,  I  will  notice  one  or 
two  other  phrases  in  The  DctJie of  Blaimche  — 
"Thervvith  Fortune  seyde,  *chek  here!* 
And  *  mate'  in  the  mvd  povnt  of  the  chokkere." 

(Morria,  1.  6.59.) 


"Poynt"  here  would.  «eem  to  mean  ''square;" 

but  I  am  rather  puzzled  by  the  following  entry  in 

A  Notnimale  (Wright's  Vocabularies,  p.  240) — 

'*  He.c  pirfja,  the  poynt  of  the  chekyre 
Hoc  scaccarium,  idem  est." 

Pirga  I  suppose  =/37/r^?M  or  irvpr,os   (a  sort  of 

dice-box)  ;  and  I  do  not  see  how  this  vvpyos  can 

have  anything  to  do  with  the  "  check-mate ''  of 

the  text.    Mr.  Skeat  has  a  note  on  1.  194  of 

r.  unwm:—  |  p,;,^^^.  pioxaihmans  Crede  (p.  89  of  E.  E.  T.  S. 

;av'3  ballad,  or  rather  j  edition),  which  goes  to  prove  that  "  point'*  does 

I  Gays,  m  the   What  ,  ^^t  ^^an  "  a  square."     "  Mydpoint,'*  perhaps,  is 

nothing  more  than  "  middle." 

"  Thogh  ye  hadde  loste  the  ferses  ticelve " 
(1.  722)  has  no  definite  meaning,  I  suppose ; 
merely  signifying  "  if  your  lass  had  be(jn  twelve 
times  Jis  great."  We  have  **  houres  twelve  "  in 
1.  572;  "halwes  twelve,"  1.  830;  ^'moo  Houres 
swiche  seven,"  1.  408 — all  more  or  less  for  the 
rhyme's  sake. 

May  I  be  permitted  to  express  a  word  of  dis- 
sent from  Mr.  Furnivall's  judgment  against  the 
"  clumsy  wind-up "  of  the  poem  ?  I  petition 
against  the  "  camng  "  of  Chaucer  on  this  count. 
(See  Furnivall's  Trial  Foreicords,  kc.  p.  42, 
Chaucer  Soc.)  The  sad  catastrophe  has  been  on 
the  point  of  breaking  out  twice  before  (lines  742, 
113(3),  and  it  comes  now  (line  1304)  a  tragic 
thunderstroke.  The  sudden  "  wind-up  "  of  the 
storv  of  Alcvone  (line  214)  seems  to  me  to  fore- 
shadow  the  abruptness  of  this  conclusinr. 
I  John  ^Vddj:*,  M.A. 

'      JSustington,  Littlehampton,  Sussex. 

Curtous  EriTAPns. — In  Ault  Ilucknall  church- 
vard,  near  Chesterfield,  Derbvshire :  — 

"  TJebccca  Saumlers,  died  Jan.  G,  ]8,'<7.  a::rd  17  years. 
"  Barbara  Saunders,  died  Jan.  l,'),  IK)7,  :i.:etl  15  years. 

"  With  "washin*:::  clotlies  from  Shefiitld  brouL:iit, 
Rebecca  she  the  fever  cauc^ht. 
Which  brought  three  more  to  this  untinioly  end, 
I*     And  no  one  could  their  asi^istance  lend." 

]      "  Richard  Marriott,  died   Oct.  20,   is,';.;,  in  the  91st 
i  year  of  his  a;?e. 

"  Few  are  there  with  a  frame  so  stron:r, 
Few  are  there  who  have  lived  so  loni:, 
And  fewer  still  just  and  sincere, 
As  he  whose  body  moulders  here. 
He  lalwurcd  in  the  fields  his  broad  to  irain ; 
He  ploughed,  he  sowe»l,  he  reape<l  the  villow  f;rain ; 
And  now  by  death  from  future  service  driw n. 
Is  gone  to  keep  his  harvest-home  in  heavt- n." 

F.  J.  L.,  MA. 

On  the  outside  of  the  south  wall  of  the  little 

church  of  Ickford,  Bucks,  on  a  tabh»t  about  twc 

feet  square,  is  the  following  inscription :  — 

**  Hoc  Saxnm  Vivus  Moritnro  mihi  posui  Thomas 
Phillips,  Gentleman,  17J0." 

The  singularity  of  the  inscription  is,  that  it  is 
part  Latin  and  part  English.  But  regarded  as  an 
epitaph,  it  is  really  no  epitaph  at  all — at  best  but 
a  cenotaph — as  no  evidence  exists^  from  the  regip- 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[i^atX.  JsntS.'TS. 


tar  book  of  buriala  or  otiier  sources,  to  ebovf  that 
the  mill  was  ever  buried  iu  this  churchjard. 

Edkumd  Tew,  M.A. 
A  BuiLDisQ  L.IW  or  the  Gkecias9. — 
"  In  the   magaiHceDt  sad  ipacious  Grecian  city  of 
Enbcsus  ail  ancient  law  waa  made  by  tbe  ancealan  or  " 
inhabilnnis,  hard  indeed  in  in  nature,  but  nevertlicl 
equltalile.     When  an  architect  was  entrnatej  with 
excculinn  of  a  public  work,  an  eatimate  tbereor  being 
Icxlfreil  in  tbe  hnudi  of  a  mngistnite,  Iii9  property  was 
held  US  security  until  thB*wi>rk  was  rinishe<L    If,  when 
linished,  tiio  eitpenae  did  not  eiceed  the  "  '' ■" 

il  estimate,  it  waa  defrayed  by  tl 
punlahmcnt  was  inflicted.  Itut  when 
funrth  of  the  e<tiniato  was  exceeded,  he  was  requind  to 
pay  the  ejtceis  out  oC  his  own  po<-lcct.  Would  tu  Uod  that 
»aib  a  lawexislcd  among  the  Itoiiiua  people,  .  .  .  ." 

TLIb  extract  is  copied  from  ^'itruvius,  De  Archi- 
kcturii.  Can  aoy  of  your  rtndera  refer  me  to  an 
histtirian  wlio  may  havu  mado  the  saitie  state- 
ment ?  W.  P. 


light  on  the  remote  pnternnl  anceslrj  of  William 
Cowper.  HiH  grandfather  waa  a  J^idgo  in  the 
Court  of  Cnmrnon  Pleaa,  and  his  grand-uncle  was 
Lord  High  Chancellor,  and  waa  created  Earl 
Ciiwper.  That  noblemnn  claimed  descent  from 
John  Cowper,  Bheriff  of  London  in  1551.  John 
Cowper,  1  have  been  mforraed,  was  of  Sciittish 
descent,  liis  pirogenitora  being  tenant  farmers  at 
Stenton,  in  the  pariah  of  Aborcrombie,  Fifesliire. 
The  Scottish  mode  of  spelling  the  family  name  is 
Cooper.  Stenton  farm  is  known  to  hare  been 
rested  by  persons  of  the  nanic  for  3-30  yean.  A 
younger  brar.ch  of  tbe  Stenton  family  )s  alleged 
to  have  settled  in  England,  and  to  have  be- 
come  progenitors  of  tbe  chancellor  and  the  poet. 
This  is  tlie  Hfeshirc  tradition,  but  whether  it  is 
wi'U-founded  I  cannot  vouch. 

Chabi.esRocehs. 
Snowdonn  Villa,  Lewisliam. 

AsiERicAX  Gexealoov.  —  Many  readera  of 
"  N.  &  <J.''  will  be  iutorested  in  bearing  that  my 
former  query  under  tliis  heading  has  been  iDJitru- 
mental  in  supplying  a  link  minaing  for  some  two 
ceatitrics  and  a  half,  and  may  probably  lend  to 
the  diseovery  of  another  of  n  much  Bailiur  date. 
I  should  now  be  rery  pleased  to  hear  of  or  from 
anyone  in  America  of  the  name  of  Chad,  Chads, 
or  Shad-  'I'iio  latter  \n  given  in  a  list  of  Ameri- 
can sumnmes  in  "  N.  k  Q."  1"  S,  lii.  41,  and  I 
believe  is  s^-nonynious  with  Chad :  and  if  so,  it  is 
a  very  ruriuus  coincidence  that  C  sb(>uld  have 
intercnan^^id  with  S  in  America,  both  in  Chattuck 
and  Chad,  an  in  the  Phihhifical  Socieli/  Pajieri  for 
1805,  p.  47,  it  is  stated  tlint  '*  in  the  new  American 
Dictionary  projected  by  Frankliti  in  1708,  the  soft 


One  of  tliia  funily 
■  -heyeM  1738. 
C.  Cai.TToat 

Castle  Bromwich,  Warwickshire. 

Isos  SmPBUiLTiiKO.— On  looking  over  the  e«riy 
numbers  of  the  HhU  Packet,  which  ia  th«  oUM 
newspaper  in  Yorkshire,  I  find  the  following  pan- 
graph,  dated  Nov.  11,  1788 :  — 

"  An  iron  barge,  built  bv  John  Wilkinaon,  En-  wis 
lately  launched  at  Willey  Wharf,  to  tha  admiratioD  g( 
some,  the  surprise  of  many,  and  conviction  of  all :  it  w» 
perf«:tly  light,  moves  very  cosy  on  the  water,  and  dr»w* 
nbont  ei^lK  inches  when  quite  freighted.  It  waa  Imme- 
diutely  laden  with  iron  for  Stourport,  whers  ita  aniTal 
gaiueAthe  attention  of  all  that  place." 

What  an  immense  progress  has  been  nude  in 
iron  shipbuilding  in  this  great  seaport  nnce  that 
time !  I  should  he  glad  to  hear  from  any  of  your 
'correspondents,  whether  they  know  of  an  eulia 
instance  of  iron  shipbuilding  than  this  P       V.  T. 


Aucrint. 


—Is  there  ■  poitrut  of 


Queen  Elizabeth?  or  of  Sir  Nicholas  Bagmal,Ui 
son,  who  succeeded  him  in  the  office  of  manhalf 

p.H.a 

Dears'  Gkease. — How  early  waa  thia  tluxig^ 
good  for  the  hair?  In  1663,  W.  BiiUeyn  aaji  h 
his  Booke  of  Simple*,  fol.  76,  back : — 

"  Tbe  Beare  is  a  bcaste  wboaa  fiash  la  good  Itar  dm- 
kynd :  his  fat  is  good,  with  Laudanain,  ta  maka  an  17M- 
ment  to  heale  balde  beadad  men  to  ne«iv«  tha  hnn 
HCayne.    The  grease  of  the  baaie,  the  £atta  of  a  IMMb 

'    be  oyntment  of  the  Fox,  malieth  a  good  OJttamI 
jynt  tbe  feete  againit  the  payno  of  tnnall « latatf 
uf  fuulemeo." 

F.  J.  FuBSiTasb 

Kronze  IIeaii  ponm  m  B&ih. — Hauy  tcmi 
ago  there  was  at  Brockley  Hall  a  branie  heaa  tU 
was  found  in  Batb.  Can  any  of  jout  raadeiaii* 
form  me  where  that  is  now  to  be  met  wiUi  f 

W.  P.  RUMKEL 

Bath.  " 

-V  BcsDLE  OF  QcERiEs. — When  mn  SpaniA 
lions  introduced  into  EnglandP 
What  was  the  dat/  of  the  marriage  of  IJi^ 

EdwBrd  Cnderhill.  known  in  hia  time  aa  Aa 
![ot  C'ospeller,  was  hving  in  lo63.  Wfaao  did  hi 
<iic  P  lis  was  the  founder  of  Underbill  of  B 


ham,  a  branch  of  Underbill  of  Wolnilmm] 
Whatisthedateof  deathof  A 
:tor  of  Stepney,  often  called  1 
d  well  knowQ  to  readan  of 

The  Rev.  Thomaa  Roae,  s 


leBernte', 


rector  of  Stepney,  often  called  Latimor'a  avnofc 
and  well  knowa  to  readan  of  Fozb'b  Aak  f 

Marfijn  f 


maa  Roae,  s  naaSiamt  nf 

testant,  presented  to  Wait  K  4n  tf  UlMl  VU      i 


i^a-ix.  JuHBis,'7a.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


485 


and  deprired  by  Maty,  waa  again  presented  to  a 
tiving  bj  Elizabetli.  To  what  living  did  Eliza- 
beth present  him  ?  and  when  did  he  aie  ? 

My  thanks  will  ba  due  to  any  one  who  will 
kindly  answer  any  of  these  queries ;  and  a  double 
portion  will  attend  a  reply  which  arrives  before 
the  close  of  June.  Hekhenirdde. 

Hauo  of  Httiis,  Bishop  of  Rochester. — 
"  There  was  also  remaining  here  (nalling-bouw,  Kent) 
till  1720,  JD  a  nichfl  over  tbe  ohiff  door,  B  stone  italue  of 
Hamo  cle  Ditbe.   dressed  in   his  episcopal  rabeg.      Dr. 
Thorpe,  of  Koche  *  '   "    '  --■  -   ■ 


"What  has  become  of  this  statue  P 

Rardric  Mobphth. 
"  IlniKS  ANciKst  ASD  Modern. 
translator  wanted  of  Hymn  47 — 

"  Christiaiia  awake,  aalule  the  happv  mora,' 
and  of  Hymn  245— 

"  The  ahepberd  now  «a»  imitten." 

"  Christians  airabe !  arise,  rejoice  and  alng"- 

a  different  and  more  pleasing  Teraton  oF  tha  47th, 


is  a  favourite  Christmas  hymn  at  Lewes ;  and 
another  version  of  the  245th  is  the  hymn  for  the 
"Conversion  of  St.  Paul."  (CAt/rfs  Chridtm 
Year.)     It  begins  — 

"The  shepherd  nnttCen  is,  and  lol  " 

I  should  be  obliged  for  tbe  names  of  the  tTan*- 
lators  of  these  versions  &s  well.  L.  C.  R. 

[Hrmn  47  is  bf  Joho  Byrom,  ao  iagaDioiu  poet  and 
the  inventor  ota  system  of  st«DC«raphv^  Hjma  24S  ia 
a  translation  from  the  Paris  Breviary,  bj  tlie  Ber. 
Francis  Pott.] 

Ihueruahh  :  HirFF,  —  Can  any  of  yow 
leaders  refer  to  B  good  review  or  critique  of 
Xiinchhauien,  Die  Epigonen,  and  JnlifciHtCMn  bj 
Immermann;  and  of  Ber  M<mn  im  JUanile,  Ma~ 
moirax  des  Satans,  and  LichtemUm  b^  ^uffF 
Have  any  of  these  works  been  translftted  into  Eng- 
lish F  Q.  A.  SCHRUMFF. 

Whitby. 

Current  Irish  Sthbbt  Baliads. — The  capi- 
tal (but  too  brief)  article  in  MacmtUan  for  January, 
giving  some  account  of  the  current  street  ballaaa 
of  Ireland,  induces  a>strong  desire  in  remote 
colonists  to  possess  amplier  information  respectlDg, 
and  completer  copies  of,  these  productions ;  but 
how  are  we  to  obtain  themP  After  all  these 
street  ballads  are  the  true  folk  lore  of  any  coun- 
try, and  it  was  on  that  point  I  was  innstang  in 
jny  recent  inquiry,  through  toot  ever-pleaaant 
pi^^s,  for  copies  of  Moore's  ana  Bunu'a  origin^ 
Where  shall  I  fiod  a  perfect  copy  of  tbe  geooinelj 
Irish  ballad  "In  praise  of  Caatie  Hyde''F  or  tho 
complete  words  of  that  nobly  dithvrambic  ode  in 
exaltation  of  the  "  Oalway  Blazen  f  I  bRve  dU 
the  recent  collections  of  Iriab  popular  poeti;,  in- 
dudine  one  expressly  entitled  Sbttt  Batladi,  %6., 
published  by  Gill  and  M'QUshan  of  Dnblm  io 


1864,  but  there  are  not  a  dozen  real  street  ballads 
in  the  whole  of  them.  In  this  special  deparbntnt 
of  literature  one  never  gets  the  light  thing  hj 
merely  ordering  it  Let  me  add  that  ballad  sin^ 
ing  in  the  streets  is  a  totally  unknown,  and  even 
an  impossible,  institution  in  Australia. 

D.  Blaik. 
Melbaiiin& 

Laiho,  Labss,  Laboo. — Will  any  contributor 
to  "N.  &  Q.,"  versed  in  the  Scandinavian  or 
Gothic  dialects,  kindly  help  me  to  some  satisfk^ 
toiy  explanation  regarding  the  origin  of  tlww 
names  P  Laii^  is  utuated  on  Locb  Fhin,  Suther- 
landahirfi,  which  wm  peopled  by  the  Nonemenu  ''  , 
Largs,  on  the  Frith  of  Clyde,  was  the  seeiM  of 
Author  and  the  celebrated  encounter  between  the  Norwcoiaa 
King  Haco  and  the  settlers  of  that  ooast^  While 
La^  is  associated  vritb  the  disgraceful  theft  of 
the  silver  omamenta  tiwa  the  tumulus  of  th« 
Norse  ^kin^  called  "  Norrie'a  Law,"  within 
wfaich,  contamed  on  the  ornaments  in  qneatim, 
were  disooTered  the  nmtic  ^mbob  of  the  NortB- 
men  dmilar  to  those  found  m  Norway  and  Shet- 
Und  aad  on  tbe  Scottish  sculptured  stonea. 


LowTHBR  Tablet,  Cattirick  Chubdh. — Will 
any  reader  of  "  N.  &  Q."  be  good  enough  to  inform 
me  what  baa  become  of  a  tablet  or  slab  in  Cat- 
terick  church,  co.  Yo^,  bearing  an  elegant  Latin 
inscription  to  the  memorr  of  Grace,  the  Irifa  of 
Qeiwd  Lowthei  ofLowtherP  I  have  a 
in  vain  for  it,  and  have  been  equally  u 
in  obtaining  any  information  from  the  offidila  of 
the  parish.  During  the  recent  rtdorvtitm  of  tide 
church,  I  was  informed  \ij  the  wodnnen  that  % 
tablet  of  the  Hardwicke  fiumly  (which  had  been 
temporarily  removed  to  make  repairs)  had  been  . 
lost  or  broken.  This  is  church  restoration  with  % 
Tangeanoe  I  H.  M.  0. 

Hsddra,  Hay  U,  18TS. 

MdlATUBB  OF  THE  FiBsi  DnzK  OF  Masi^       : 
BOBoiraH.  —  Is  any  mention  made  in  the  gteat 
Duke  of  Marlborough's  correspoudmice  of  a  mini- 
ature portrait  of  him,  sent  to  the  ducheas  in  the       V 
year  1710  P  J.O.J.  ^ 

Nauob's  Triai  of  Csablm  I.— Having  en- 
tirely failed  in  an  endeavour  to  purchase  a  am 
of  Nelson's  JotoTiai  of  (As  High  QmH  vfJM&K 
for  the  Trial  of  Charht  O*  >lnf,  fbL,  1684,  I  ' 
shall  feel  greatly  obliged  to  any  gentleiiun  wW 
wOl  Eavonr  Du  with  the  loan  of  a  eopf  fbf  a  week 
or  tan  daya.  I  know  it  is  reprinted  m  the  ttsto 
TVub,  bnt  do  not  feel  anie^iat  ■ooh  reprint  is 
UtmAf  aocumte'.  WtLUAX  J.  TBom. 

10, 8l  OtorgfTt  Sqnent  8.W. 

«  Tbb  Paiuou  or  Ooaxmns.''~'Who  is  tlM 
anthar  of  ns  Arodiii  ^  CbsHiM*^  a  "  drawing 
iooinaite''of  tluea  thoawaa  Taaee,  r»il«wda 


KOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


CVh&IX.  JraxU.'TX. 


the  Edmhuryh  Rnirw.  Feb.  1815  (but  published 
imoiijmoualy  in  1^14),  of  which  the  critic  Tcaiarks 
thRt  — 

"  ll  U  by  fir  the  best  anil  most  brilliant  imitation  of 
Pope  tliui'lui-i  :i]iiii>iireil  finco  thi  limi-  o{  tint  nmt 
writni  with  nil  !il4  point,  poliib,  and  niedy  Iwlaiireil 
vtmillciuiuii,  as  vA\  a*  lii>  larcnaiii  anJ  vitty  iii>ll(«, 
&•:,  &P..  and  olni'i-C  riititlcil  to  Uke  iU  pLice  by  the  ude 
oftha  JiuprriCM'  jAMti." 
And  ebuwhon:  — 

"TbacomiuK  lU  of  timu  f»  Ktrani.'C  «|H»»i.in],  wu 
niiraillicu1(iMiiutUDUtliiT>l>    ^ 


1 1.1311'  bi4  iiiinic,  wlici 
|||^'  Ilu'  fvw  clasHlcal  w 


r  hr-  ili«. 


suiibtilini; 


bMt  this  ai 
rl.tt^t'lam 

gowistion. 

This  prairf,  in  a  (renemtion  wliich  pr>i(luced 
Scott,  'W  oriNw.irtli,  SouthfT,  Monro,  aiid  Bymn, 
in  Teraarkalilv  high,  i-cpt'cinl'lT  when  it  IH  rcmiim- 
bvrcd  n'tlli  whnt  Nt-veritr  thene  very  aamo  re- 
vi«wuM  liaii>lli'il  nil  of  t&e  poets  juiit  mentioned. 
W'bti  WM  thi.-  ivritrr,  aad  why  liave  such  verses 
)>efli  pLiiuitlcd  ii>  dieF  J.  S.  Dk. 

[Bv  Tlioniii.  lir^wn.  M.D..  Isle  Frotaior  of  Moral 
Phitoiiophi-  ill  1  III-  I'liiiwilvof  E Jinbunrh.  See  "  N. «  Q." 
i"S.slL43yi  .^■■&.i3t.iii».j 

GrpTS  OF  Ansis  to,Fkiksd8  who  webe  not 
ItXLAtloxs.— In  thft  "  Kloffe  do  KeriM  Chairon," 
which  is  pL;i'.-il  III  tho  betrinning  of.  his  book,  Ih 
la  Sii/i'm- 1  l'iivi>.  1U07),  is  to  bu  touiul  tho  fullow- 
Ing  iDforninli'  n  : — 

-  Do  In  Chnrnm  rolmima  4  Boniwuix,  irii  il  prist  cng- 

Hii:lnI<kUiintii|;ii(>,  Cbi'ualiurda  I'nnln:  ilu  U>iy,  auetenr 
■la  liureintiluli.  Lcs  I'^viaK  iluitud  U  faiwit  vn  nicruoil- 
Igux  i-O),  &  l>'  i'ii'UT  ilu  UuntntpiD  raitntiit  li'vne  alTiKtinn 
reciproque.  &  nu^nl  rgii'  do  niunrlr.  jiar  u>n  tinUment  il 
Inj-  perini>t  <lu-  I'-'ricr  aprei  Kin  ilifpra  W  pl:iim.i  araui* 
lie  M  noble  Ciiuille.  par  ea  ija'il  ne  laiuuit  aucuiu  enhue 

If  otbpr  iii-tiinces  of  such  pfls  lire  Imnwn, 
did  the  deBci'iiilmits  of  tha  pf-raous  wlio  ruceived 
the  anus  binr  t)iuiti,  and  in  whnt  luniini'r'-' 

lUr.ru  X.  James. 
Anliforil,  Ken  I. 

"Tkstajicnts  cr-  Tin:  XII.  Patkt uiciis."— In 
Fabiiciiis,  (V.i/i.'  i'leuiJcpiyraphiii  V.  T.  vol.  i. 
p.TriS,  e<l.  -.  ho  ri-fLTS  to  tn  editinn  of  tho  Latin 
vtmionoftb^'  Ti-ituBMitt  of  thu  XII  FutrianJu  (hy 
£ohoTtGrotijvtrKts,  Iliahop  of  Lincoln)  printed  in 
14^-1.  TlioTi'  is  no  mention  of  such  an  edition  in 
Ilun's  SiiwUinum  IJiUia^rapAiciun.  Panzer  (An- 
nale*  Tiipoyntphiri)  mi-ntiODB  no  edition  pnor  to 
1632  {ToL  vii.  p.  100).  In  Drunet,  howeTer 
{MaaHflil't  Lihraiii;  ir.  I:{u3),  nfter  referonce  is 
■node  to  the  i-dition  of  l^Vi-l.  an  edition  (place  and 
date  not  spi'viiiodl  is  alluded  to  as  '■  probable- 
ment  nntirii/ii'v  fi  telle  de  L)3-',"  I  shall  leol 
vQij  antck  oblii'"^  if  any  of  your  correspondents 


muted  still  continue  to  be  so,  althoujifa  they  xiuj 
)itLve  been  grubbed  and  cultivated,  but  tbej  Im> 
can  kindlv  rttrm.-h  anyinfoiraatton  aa  tn  tViwywma  tti^oct  to  ei' 
poaaibly  earlier  edition.  "B.  B.   \^-w\ftiVav«  Q^  »ax\i 


PoBPOiSB  aitd  Salmoii. — Can  any  correBpondent 
account  for  the  porpoise  bein^  no  longer  in  use  h 
■n  article  of  food,  seeing  tltat  in  the  reign  of 
Edwatd  I.  it  was  the  most  costly  fish  in  the 
market,  as  the  follnwin^r  extract  from  the  Billings- 
gate market  list  will  show: — 
"  lirM  ulmoa  from  Chrixtmaii  tO  Easter        .    Hi. 

Ditto,  after  Kuter Ht. 

Dot  ForpoiM Gi,  8d." 

Geo.  Elus. 

"To  MOVE  THE   PKEVIOUS   QCESTIOS." — ^There 

is  a  phrase  fret^uently  used  in  meetings  of  E^''*^ 

bodies— "  Moving  the  previous  question.''     What 

is  the  origin  and  meaning  of  this  phrase  P    Ajroir. 

[The  ori;:in  of  the  pbriue  is  pnrliamentari-.     When  it 

tion  withont  directiv  BegitivinK  it.  the  "  preTioiu  qua- 
tiun  "—namely,  "That  this  quvslion  be  nor  put  » 
moved,  and  If  carried  tliv  motion  or  qnuition  objected  to 
il  not  put,  and  so  pOt  rid  of  without  beins  negatived  by 
a  ilirect  vote  on  its  merit*. — See  for  fulbir  pBrtlPoIan 
ilay'i  Lav  oH'I Fractin  <^ I'ariiamtiU,  p.  203,  ed.  1888.] 

MiKY  C.  RuMSRT.— I  have  seen  the  title  of  a 
privately  printed  work  cnlleil  Miriaummrr  A'ljiJlf  ,■ 
or,  Shakftpeare  antl  the  Fairia.  from  the  Qeraian 
of  L.  Tieik,  by  Mory  C.  Humaey  (edited  by  S.  W, 
Singer),  li^i.  A  volume  eniitlud  IhigmetitM, 
Oru/iiial  ami  TranniaM,  was  published  by  Nntt 
in  iti!>7  by  M.  C.  IL  Is  this  auother  work  by  the 
some  lady  ?  R.  Iireus, 

Stock TOX.^-'Whnt  is  the  derivation  of  tlie  nir- 
name  of  Slocktou  ?  I  think  it  is  a  Cheshire 
Family.  A  Constant  Keadeb. 

The  Toxtise  of  17W>.— 1  should  much  like  to 
know  whether  any  atlvantnvyi^  was  derived  from 
bMngin  the  tontine  of  ITfW,  and  if  so,  for  how 
\ang  ?  I  have  several  times  tried  to  undentand 
what  a  tontine  is.  I  have  heard  that  the  Uts 
unsuccessful  attempt  to  float  the  Alexandra  Palace 
Tontine  coFt  .10,0(H«.  Did  the  old  tontine  cost  m 
much  as  this  ?  What  ciin  one  refer  to  for  infomu- 
don  ?  R.  T. 

Tretpoki)  :  Elsted. — 1  have  been  unable  to  find 
to  what  saint  either  of  tba  churches  of  Treyford 
nr  Elsted,  Sussex,  was  dedicntt'd ;  and  by  referring 
to  my  advertisement  in  your  lost  nnmber,  perhaps 
Mme  of  your  readers  may  be  enabled  to  give  mo 
wsnie  information,  for  which  I  shall  bo  greatly 
obliged.  Rktos. 

WoOBT.AND  IB  liVKaT  Krst. — Can  any  of  your 
reader*  give  me  some  information  ss  to  the  reasoa 
why  all  the  woodland  in  West  Kent  lying  aonth 
i)f  the  did  Pilgrim's  War  (to  the  shrine  of  St. 
Thomas  n'lteckelt)  is  exempt  from  tithe  P  The 
lands  so  exempt  at  tha  time  tho  tithes  were  o 


i^  S.  IX  Juke  15, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


487 


3H0NASTIC  INVENTORIES. 

(4'»»  S.  ix.  360,  432.). 

If  we  might  venture  an  opinion,  it  would  be 
much  in  accordance  with  those  of  E.  M.  and 
F.  C.  H.  (p.  432).  1.  To  "  spar  "  a  book  may  be, 
either  to  fa'sten  it  back  when  opened  and  in  use 
on  the  reader *8  desk,  as  is  E.  M.'s  supposition,  or 
to  maintain  it  closed  when  shut,  by  passing  a 
spere,  spar,  pin,  or  bolt,  one  or  more,  through  the 
«yes  of  the  clasps,  which  were  idmost  adways 
attached  to  the  boards.  It  is  to  be  remembered 
that  in  mediseval  times  many  of  the  books  in  use 
in  churches  were  verily  boarded ;  as  for  example, 
the  ancient  Bible  of  the  "  Hie  Kirk  "  of  Glasgow, 
which  had  oak  boards  three-fourths  of  an  indi  in 
thickness,  having  clasps,  weighed  23  lbs.,  and  was 
fastened  by  an  iron  chain  to  the  desk.  2.  '^  Grased 
<and  gamysshed,''  descriptive  of  a  basin.  In  Soot- 
land,  any  vessel  cracked,  but  not  actually  in  shreds, 
IS  said  to  be  "  crazed,"  which  supports  Mr.  Wedg- 
wood's view.  Here,  however,  work  of  a  crossated 
(%.  e,  crusily)  or  reticulated  pattern,  such  as  that 
of  chancel  partitions,  is  probably  meant,  and  that 
garnished  with  a  setting  of  stones.  3.  "  Fery " 
may  refer  to  one  or  two  things ;  either  to  the  choir 
keeping  feast-day,  Scotic6  "the  fair"  (feria), 
as  F.  U.  H.  thinks,  or  to  the  faring,  going  out,  or 
dismissal  of  the  choir.  In  Scotch,  there  is  the 
verb  to  "  ferry  "  (pr.  sic),  and'  it  may  exist  in 
old  English  as  well,  which  is  yet  in  common  use, 
especially  in  reference  to  a  sow  bringing  forth  its 
young.  It  is  said  then  to  "  ferry,"  or  to  be  "  fer- 
rying" (farrowing)  them;  ie,  the  mother  is 
being  voided  of  tliem,  or  they  are  going  forth. 
To  fare  (Aner.-Sax. /ar-an)  is  to  go  out,  or  forth. 
Farrow  is  tue  name  in  Scotland  given  to  a  cow 
twt  with  calf,  in  contradistinction  to  one  with  calf, 
which  is  said,  in  the  vernacular,  to  be  tidy. 

To  queries  on  other  points  put  by  Mb.  Wai.- 
ooTT  your  correspondents  do  not  advert ;  and  the 
remarks  now  offered  are  merely  tentative;  (1.) 
The  "  rosis  et  perenlysys,"  chased  work,  would 
seem  just  roses  and  lilies  of  some  kino.  The 
popes  were  wont  to  bless  roses  and  iiowera,  and 
then  to  send  them  forth  as  nuirks  of  their  favour. 
The  lilv  (of  the  garden)  was  the  special  emblem 
of  the  tirgin.  (Nisbet's  Heraldry,  \)  (2.)  What 
the  "thotes"  and  "estats"  were,  for  which 
cushions  were  provided,  it  seems  difficult  aatib- 
factorily  to  specify.  Thowts,  or  thoughta,  = 
thwarts;  were  cross-seats  or  benches,  aa  thoM  in 
boats  on  which  the  rower^  sat.  (Halliwell's 
Did.  V,  "  Thowts."  Hence,  probabl^,  the  term 
was  applied  to  such,  or  siihilar,  aeata  m  chtudies. 
At  the  same  time.  Dr.  Jamieson  (So.  Diet,)  gifae 
the  verb  (also  a  substantive)|  "tlumt^  toaob^; 
and  the  ihotes,  if  having  origin  in  tkout,  maj  luiTtt 


been  the  seats  appropriated  to  the  pwnitentes  in 
churches,  and  on  which  they  Imelt,  or  those  in 
the  confessional.  (Riddle's  Ch.  Antiq,,  628  to  683.) 
(3.)  *'  Estats."  Men  of  rank  were  called  "  es- 
tates "  (men  of  station  P^  Fr.  v.  estats.  There 
were  vessels  &c.  also  called  '^  of  estate,"  thoae, 
namely,  used  on  great  state  occasions  or  banquets^ 
as  the  enthronisation  of  bishops.  (L^land's  Ool* 
lectaneoy  yi,  8.  App.;  Q.  Elizabeth* $  Pragreum^i, 
34.)  Therefore,  the  ^'  estats "  may  have  been 
either  the  seats  or  stalls  appropriated  to  the  ^pmt^ 
as  kings  and  magistrates — and  these  are  said  to 
have  been  placed  doae  by  the  entrance  to  the 
chancel  in  that  part  of  the  nave  called  the  H^Km^ 
or  Senatorium^or  the  vessels  put  to  use  on  jp^at 
feasts,  which,  being  of  gold  or  silver,  or  suver- 
gilt,  and  many  of  them  probably  enamelled  ^aA 
chased,  would  remiire  cushions  for  their  bettear 
preservation.  (4!)  The  ^Woodward''  WM  an 
officer  of  the  forest;  and  seemingly  it  was  the- 
figure  of  one  which  was  upon  the  end  of  this 
spoon,  the  gift,  as  may  be  supposed,  of  a  wood- 
ward, in  the  capadty  of  a  sponsor,  to  his  gossip 
at  the  christening.  This  spoon  might  be  flnt 
bestowed  much  a&r  the  manner  of  the/'  Apostle- 
spoons,"  which  bore  on  the  back  end  the  image 
of  that  apostle  in  honour  of  whom  the  child 


named*      (FrefiEU^  to  Form  of  Cury,  p.  six.; 

Km,"  anid 


Boucher's  QIoss.  v,  *<  Apostle  Spoon,' 
ences ;  and  Dyoe*s  8k,  Oloos,  v.  **  Spoons.")^  (O.) 
''Shrym]^"  would  seem  the  plural  of  shrimp,  a 
water  animal,  and  one  of  the  many  fumlies  of 
crustaceans;  and,  in  combination  with  the  white 
swans,  these  shrimps  would  seem  to  have  been 
embroidered  on  the  chasuble  for  ornamentation. 
One  species  of  the  shrimp  inhabits  the  shores  of 
Britain,  and  is  reckoned  the  choicest  food.  (6.) 
As  to  *'  stock  work  "  on  a  chalice,  the  conjectom 
would  seem  feasible  that  it  was  work  similar  to 
that  of  a  knitted  stocking,  because^'  stock"  is  an 
abbreviation  of  stocking.  It  is  also  so,  howeTsr, 
of  stoccado,  a  thrust  in  fendng ;  and  in  heraldxj 
is  the  short  stomp  of  a  tree  with  its  roots  ex- 
hibited as  erased.  (Dyce's  OIobs.  ''Stock"; 
Boutell*8  Ifer.,  1864^  p.  76.)  Ebpsdajo. 


PUOS£T  FAULT. 
(4'>>  S.  ix.  42a) 


The  pedigree  of  this  fisunily,  as  giyen  in 
Thoxesby 's  Ducatiu  Leodimuio,  by  Whitaler  (ML 
1816,  p.  360^  is  defbctive  in  its  commencemmt  w 
to  the  origin  of  the  famihr*  '  Hapnily  the  infoniH 
ation  to  sapply  the  d^flcieiiey  u  foond  in  tha 
MBS.  of  Jonn  EMdnaon,  Qept,  as  oo|»ed  and 
coneeted  by  Mr.  Tnoa  Wuson,  T.BJL,  nf  T  nrgh 
4  Toh.  Ibljk^  Sn  tiM  Leeds  Old  lilnaiT,  pp.  964h8: 
called  the  «WlliOD  MfiKf. .  .  .  .vJ£am  mk 
Anns  of  tiM  IlniiHflt.or  the  Wsst  IJ^Sqg;''    A» 


488  NOTES  AND  QUERIES.  [4*  s.  ix.  Johe  15. 7i 


the  information  Las  not,  I  believe,  been  published  It  is  not  every  one  who  is  ft^i  fond  of  the  smell 

before,  rxcopt  in  our  local  historical  year-book —  of  fish,  venison,  gonie,  &c.,  under  his  nose  a» 

a  copy  of  which  1  s»*nd  you  witli  this — perhaps  it  F.  C.  II.  \k    Nor  perhaps  of  that  perpetual  duel 

will  bo  acceptable  to  the  readers  of  *' X.  &  C^.*'  of  civility  kept  up  between  the  lady  of  the  house 

Immediately  pn-r-e-linj/  the  Conque^^t  (a.d.  10(H))  and  the  gentleman  who  took  her  out:   "Now, 

the  manor  of  rud^ty,  near  Leeds,  wad  divided  pray  do";  **No,  indeed  I  cannot";  "But  I  really 

betwixt  two  .Siixim  tlume'*,  Dunstan  and  Stainulf ;  do  like  carving'*;  "  Well,  but  you,"&c.,  &c — with 

who,  op])Osin;r  tlie  ('  )nqueror,  were  disinherited  the  man  on  the  left  hand  begging  to  be  allowed 

and  the  manor  laid  wast«\     Whereupon  the  Con-  to  lielp.    All  this  is  happily  obsolete  under  the 

queror  ^'ave  it  with   nwiny  nther  manors  unto  new  system,  and  the  principal  man  in  the  company 

llbert  de  Lucy,  <  ne  nf  his  generals;  who  settled  is  no  longer  servitor  to  the  inferior  guesta.     The 

it  in  fee  upon\«ne  of  his  favourite  Normans,  called  master  of  the  house,  too,  has  time  to  be  attentive 

Kichard,  who  then  as.-unn'd  the  name  of  the  place  to  the  principal  lady.    If  I  should  ever  have  the 

where  he  wa>  siitled,  as  was  tlie  cu-stom  with  happiness  to  entertain  F.  C.  II.  at  my  table,  I 

many  of  the  Normans  wiio  settled  in  this  country,  will  promise  him  the  same  opportunity-  of  a  aecond 


He  was  then  called  Kichard  Pudsey,  was  lord  of    helping  -which  my  other  guests  have,  though  my 


acres  of  land  in  Pii(l.>ey  to  Kirkstall  Abbey ;  and  ;  lius«c  style  is  much  quieter,  more  ecoDomical, 
Koger,  the  son  (jf  (iregory,  gave  two  and  a  half  .  takes  fewer  servants  to  manage  it  nicely,  and  ha* 
acres  of  land  to  the  >anie  abbey.  He  had  a  son  ',  far  less  bustle.  Under  the  old  system  the  8e> 
called  Thomas  Pudsoy,  who  gave  to  the  same  vants  were  always  stretching  over  the  gfueats  to 
monastery  an  as.ert  (a  piece  of  land  more  or  less  i  get  the  dishes  off  and  on,  which  now  only  hap- 
cleared  of  wood,  ^:c.,  and  made  arable)  in  the  pens  at  dessert.  Then  there  was  sure  to  be  a 
wood  near  FarnleybrooUe  at  Piulsey.  (Jeoffrey,  '  stupid  young  man  who  could  not  carve  the 
the  son  of  Thomas,  alj?o  gave  to  Kirkstall  Abbey  |  chickens;  and  the  tongue  was  generally  oppoaite 
an  anci^'ut  incsMuigti,  p^arden,  and  three  acres  of  .  a  shy  young  lady,  who  had  not  QS  yet  foiUMl  har 
land,  with  comnion-riglit  in  l*u(lsey ;  which  mes-  own.  If  F.  C.  ll.  had  ever  seen  an  elderly  lady's 
suage  was  probably  the  mansion  hous(!  of  the  cap,  wig,  and  all,  caught  up  by  a  footman^  aleeva 
family,  b«;cau.-(j  hU  son  and  heir.  SiuKui  Pudsey,  button  and  lifted  off  her  head  (I  knew  the  lady  it 
was  married  to  Katherine.  daughter  and  heiress  happened  to),  he  would  be  glad  that  the  rias  of 
of  John  JJolton,  Lord  of  JJoltoii,  near  Gisbum,     such  a  misadventure  was  diminished.  P.P. 

in  Craven,  to   which   place   he   removed    (Ltup.  _ 

Edw.  II.).     His  d'jscendants,  the  Pudsey  family, 

continued  to  reside  at  Bolton  Hall  for  upwards  of  I  was  much  of  your  venerable  correspondent 
four  hundred  years.  From  him  the  pedigree  in  F.  C.  H.'s  opinion  as  regards  the  good  old  fashion 
the  Ihutitm  Iao<Ui unin  only  conmiences.  I  of  carving  at  table  (when  doiie  by  a  dexterous 

There  was  a  Hugh  Pudsey,  nephew  of  King  hand),  until  the  late  war  made  mo  forcibly  change 
iStephen,  who  was  consecrated  Bishop  of  Durham  ■  my  mind;  as  month  after  month— and  long  weazy 
by  the  Pope  himself  at  Home,  Dec.  .'50,  1153,  and  '■  months,  God  knows!— we  had  to  carve  at  our 
was  bishop  above  forty  years.  He  died  in  II J)').  ,  own  table,  and  that,  twice  ever>'  da?  and  twice 
Can  any  of  the  readers  of  ''X.  &  Q."  oblige  me  I  of  each  dish,  to  eight,  ten,  or  twelve  German 
with  the*  derivation  and  meaning  of  the  word  ,  officers,  until  our  wrists  ached  (lo  say  nothing 
Pudsey?  in  Doomsday  Book  it  is  written  *'Pode-  \  of  our  hearts!):  so  that  at  last,  en  dcsSspoirde 
chopaie."  '  Simkon  Kavn'eu.    ,  <<"/»',  I  gave  up  the  arduous  task  of  ecuyer-trmh' 

rud?ey.  i  vh(wt  to  mv  butler,  thinking  dinners  d  la  Ikm- 

^  siniiic  much  on  a  par  with  those  A  la  JSmsw;  and 

DIXIXc;  "A  I.A  lUTSSK."  I  can  assure  F.  C.  H.  that,  with  the  great  diffi- 

(4^*' 8.  ix.  4J'.\)  I  culty  in  those  troubled  times  to  get  sufficient 

F.  C.  M.  is  hard  on  dinners  a  In  liimr,  but  I  do  ,  provender  for  so  many  greedy  mouths,  it  wis 

not  think  he  will  .st..]»  them.     He  does  nca  touch  '  ^^f^*'»  ^^  ^^»y  matter  4o  carve  so  that  each  oonM 

on  the  great  disadvantage  1  have  heard  people     l^iive  his  share.     Nay,  it  not  unfi«qnently  hap- 

whine   about,    nuiuelv,    that    nobodv  now  sees     pned  that  "  those  at  the  ends  of  the  table,  C  ft 

"  one's"  handsomr  silver  dishes,  or  ''one's"  best     ^^^^  "^^^ter  and  mistress  of  the  house,  hfid  tobe 

soup  tureeiH.  and   that,  for  the  matter  of  that,  !  i^ontent,  after  servmff  every  one,  with  thedna- 

*'one"  miglit  as  w.?ll  have  ebina.     But  jie  does  '  sticks  of  a  tough  fowl— which  seemed  to  M  my 

touch  cm  what  we  all  have  felt  when  there  was  "  foul  play ;    but  we  took  it  philoaophic^j,  !•- 

not  a  due  supply  of  bills  of  fare,  namely,  the  want     ppatin- with  our  unffeladentm  GHHen-^^Vm^km 

of  knowing  wliat  the  dinner  cnn^i^ted  of.  <  g»i<?rr  .  P.  A*  lb 


4*  S.  A.  JoNE  15,  *72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


489 


"Secret  Societies  of  the  Middle  Ages" 
(4***  S.  Lx.  359,  4:ii3.; — I  have  not  seen  the  copv 
of  this  work  referred  to  in  Messrs.  Sotherans 
Catalogue  for  February,  1872,  "  (comprising  auto- 
graph notice  by  the  author,  stating  that  this  volume 
was  printed  without  his  knowledge.)"  The  volume, 
it  seems,  is  sold. 

What  this  note  of  the  author  means  I  cannot 
guess.  He  furnished  the  manuscript  of  the  work 
to  the  society ;  he  corrected  the  proofs ;  and  he 
was  pjud  for  the  copyright  Nor  can  I  under- 
stand how  an  author  s  work  can  be  printed  with- 
out his  knowledge ;  he  being  of  sane  mind,  and 
at  the  place  of  puolication. 

This  I  recollect,  as  accurately  as  one  can  re- 
member events  of  five-and-thirty  years  ago,  that 
Mr.  KEienTLET  contemplated  expanding  into  a 
work  of  greater  extent  tne  book  which  he  wrote 
for  the  Useful  Knowledge  Society.  For  aught  I 
know,  he  may  have  regretted  that  lie  published 
the  smaller  work.  That  it  was  piintea  without 
his  knowledge  I  utterly  deny. 

I  have  long  since  arrived  at  an  age  when  I 
look  with  envy  ou  those  who  accept  contemporary 
memoirs  as  necessarily  true,  and  repose  on  that 
kind  of  conviction. 

Lord  Campbell,  in  his  posthumous  Memoir  of 
Lord  Brougham^  asserts  that  the  Useful  Know- 
ledge Society  was  ruined  utterly  by  the  publica- 
tion of  Lord  Brougham's  Political  PMo9ophy, 
There  is  not  a  word  of  truth  in  the  assertion. 
Yet  Lord  Campbell  was  a  member  of  the  com- 
mittee of  that  society ;  ho  had  constant  means  of 
access  to  me,  from  whom  he  knew  that  he  could 
have  learnt  the  facts;  but  he  preferred  a  sneer 
at  Lord  Brougham  to  the  truth.  And  the* sneer 
will  probably  be  'accepted  hereafter  as  truth. 

Thos.  Coaiss. 
Kensington. 

The  Grand  Secret  (4»'>  S.  ix.  426.)— The 
philosopher  who  said-,  shortly  before  his  death,  "  I 
shall  soon  know  the  grand  secret,'*  was  Arthur 
Thistlewood,  at  his  execution  for  high  treason, 
May  1, 1820.     See  Annual  Register.  W.  G. 

Was  it  not  Montaigne  whose  last  words  were, 
"  Je  vais  chercher  un  grand  peut-^tre  "  P 

•        A.  J.  M, 

The  alleged  saying  of  the  dying  philosopher—- 
"  I  shall  soon  know  the  grand  secret," — may  per- 
haps refer  to  the  saying  which  has  been  ascribed 
to  Rabelais  on  the  approach  of  his  death— ^"Je 
vais  chercher  un  grand  peut-etre."  Whether  his 
biographers  have  truly  imputed  to  him  sceptical 
language  of  this  kind,  on  such  an  occasion,  is  per- 
haps open  to  doubt.  The  romance  of  Oargantua 
and  Pantagruel  is  certainly  chargeable  with  very 
loose  language,  to  say  the  least;  and  the  story  of  the 
author's  early  life  would  seem  to  indicate  disgust 
for  the  hypocrisy  of  his  early  profeaeianal  tetchen. 


Yet  Francis  I.  did  not  seem  to  have  regarded  his 
amusing  and  extravagant  tale  as  sufficiently  un- 
orthodox to  deter  him  &om  reading  and  admiring 
it — perhaps  for  some  such  reason  as  caused  his 
successor,  Louis  XIV.,  to  protect  Moli^re  from  the 
hostility  and  remonstrance  of  the  contemporary 
ecclesiastical  dignitaries  who  urged  him  to  exclude 
the  play  of  Tartuffe  from  the  I^ench  stage. 

It  is  not  unlikely  that  other  instances  of  like 
unseasonable  jests  may  occur  to  the  recollection 
of  the  reader.  A  jocular  tone  in  the  last  words 
of  more  than  one  Koman  emperor  has  been  re* 
corded  by  authentic  history.  Bacon  remarks  that 
the  approach  of  death  is  often  consistent  with 
good  spirits  {Essay  on  Death);  and  Yespasiaa 
himself  one  of  the  best  of  the  emperors,  re- 
sorted to  rather  a  coarse  hon  mot  in  the  last  act 
of  his  life—"  Ut  puto,  Deus  fio."  Suetonixia  tella 
us  thaf  nee  in  metu  et  pericolo  mortis  abstinoit 
jods."    (Fe^p.  cap.  23.)  E.  S. 

[Dr.  Dodd  has  been  credited  with  the  saying.] 

History  of  the  Vaudom  (4"»  S.  ix.  188,  210. 
829,  393.)— To  the  works  previously  mentioned 
may  be  added  — 

<*Th6  Hiatory  of  the  Vaudois,  by  Peter  Bqyer,  a 
Mloister  of  the  Gospel,  dedicated  to  the  King  of  Eng- 
land, and  newly  translated  out  of  French  by  4  Person  of 
Quality.  London,  Printed  for  Edward  M017  at  the  Three 
BibleM  in  St.  Paul's  Church  Tazd.    mdcxch. 

"  Wherein  is  shown  their  Original;  how  God  has  pre- 
served the  Christian  Beligion  among  them  in  its  Purity, 
from  the  time  of  the  Aporaes,  to  our  days ;  the  Wonden 
he  has  done  for  their  preservation,  with  the  Signal  and 
Miraculous  Victories  that  they  have  finned  over  th^  - 
Enemies ;  how  they  were  dispersed,  and  their  Churches 
ruined ;  and  how  at  last  they  were  re-established  beyond 
the  ezpecution  and  hope  of  all  the  World.** 

P.  A.  L. 

.Myfanwt  (4»>»  S.  ix.  188,  896.) -If  the  last 
syllable  is  from  toy,  "water"  (not  "sea"),  the 
name  would  rather  mean  "  my  wave ; "  from  my- 
fftm-wyf  "  top  or  snr&ce  of  the  water." 

R.  8*  Chasvock. 

Black  Raut  (A^  S.  ix.  137, 186,  267,  827.)— 
To  information  dready  received  allow  me  to  add 
as  foUows : — 

"  In  Aprfl,  1849,  Professor  Barker  laid  before  'the 
Royal  Dublin  Society  some  observations  on  a  diower  ef 
black  rain  which  had  fidleo  around  Garlow  and  Kilk6iuiy» 
and  extended  over  an  area  of  more  than  400  sqaan 
miles."— ••  In  July,  1850,  a  shower  of  black  rain  oocumd 
near  Northampton,  and  was  described  at  the  time  by  tha 
Rev.  J.  T.  Tryon  of  Bulwick  Reetoiy.**— V^orlilq^  ft^oa- 
ders^  London  {eirta  1868),  p.  87. 

Newcastle-on-l^e.  J.  MaihtbIi. 

"  Tm  Offi€b  o»  thb  Holt  Wxek  "  (i*  8.* 
ix.  428.)— This  Holy  Week  Book  is  of  no  parti- 
cular value.  Before  the  reign  of  Jamea  Xl.  no 
Ofttiidic  book  could  Mfelv  be  pnbliahed  with  tke 
printer's  neine^  ftom  the  tuM  (» tlie  Befarmation } 
tboogh  bodce  of  deYotion  nd  of  the  dinidi  aflloM 


490 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4tt  8.  IX.  Josx  11^  "Tl 


were  always  supplied  either  from  foreign  presses 
or  with  the  uaiues  of  foreign  cities  on  the  title- 
pages,  such  as  Antwerp,  Paris,  Douay,  &c., 
though  in  reality  printed  secretly  in  England. 
On  the  accession, 'however,  of  James  II.,  Catholic 
bi>oks  were  publicly  printed,  chietly  by  Ileury 
Hills,  as  is  the  book  in  question.  I  have  several 
books  from  Ijis  press,  and  aUo  liis  catalogues,  and 
those  of  T.  Mt'ighan  in  JJrury  Lane,  who  Wiis  the 
chief  Catholic  l^jokseller  after  Hills.  The  Office 
of  Holtj  Week  \\'tx6  always  to  bo  had  of  these 
bookseller!?.  I  have  a  copy  printed  early  in  the 
♦'ighteenth  cnturv,  which  once  belonged  to 
Bishop  Challoner.  "  F.  C.  H. 

^  M.vuTHK  Dou  (;1^»>  S.  ix.  ;J00,  41. ■>.)_Sir  Walter 

JScott,  whose  wontlerfully  retentive  and  i)bservunt 

mind  caught  up  e v.- ly tiling,  has  tlius  alluded  to 

the  legend  of  ilie  .MautlK*  J)og  : — 

'*  For  he*  was  sju-.-chUfss,  (;h.i'<tly.  wan, 
Liku  him  oi' whom  thi*  ^lurv  ran 
Who  >|»oki'  \\\\'  >|)ot'trf.-ljonn<l  in  man." 
•    l^y  I'j' thf  J^i.st  Min.stn:f.  raiilo  vi.  8t.inza  'i'l. 

Sinirularly  enouj-U  he  Iuls  n-^t  mentioned  the 
subject  in  lii.s  Liffrr.-<  on  Ih  /nnnof,u/i/  and  IVitch- 
vraft.  I>nt  in  Pvctril  of  the  I'cak,  the  s(r»*ne  of  a 
portion  of  which  is  laid  at  i't-el  Castle  in  tlie  Isle 
of  Man,  just  iifi  might  be  tixpected,  Sir  Waller 
alludes  to  it.  'L'Inj  superstition  of  the  cry  of  the 
(iubriel  Hounds  in  the  hkyin».*niioned  by  W.  E. 
A.  A.  was  fMii-e  common  in  Yorkshire,  and  sup- 
posed to  fon'tnll  \]ui  deatli  of  s.>me  person.  A 
local  poet,  Mr.  llolLmd  of  Sliullii^ld,  describes  it 
iis  follows: — 

*'()ft  hav(j.l  hrard  my  lionour-d  nii»thpr  s.iy 
How  slic  h;ith  li^ti-ii'.'d  to  the  (i.ibricl  Ilouiids; 
Those  >trunL;e,  unc.irthly.  and  my.sterinus  snund-* 
Which  on  the  car  thmu;;)!  nuirkieht  darkness  k-II  ; 
And  how,  entrarci-d  l»y  >np<'rslitious  sju-ll, 
The  tmnblin..c  vill.sj^iT  not  Mddoni  heanl. 
In  the  <|uaiiit.  notes-  r»f  the  noilurnal  bird 
Of  dt'Uth  preiuonislit'd,  some  sirk  iici^hb'iiir's  knoll.'* 

John  ricKi-oui),  M.A. 
II ungate,  Pickerin;^. 

rKOVEKiJ-^  (4*^  S.  ix.  42*^.) — It  is  stated  at  tlie 
above  reference  that  in  iS"^l)  (luod  Fridav  will 
f:ill  on  Si.  (reorge's  Day,  Apiil  2.'>,  and  Corpus 
(Jhristi  on  St.  John,  .Tune  24  :  but  I  believe  this 
is  inai'LMirat-.'.  In  that  year  (Jood  Friday  will  be 
April  10,  and  Corpus  Cliristi  June  17.  But  in 
the  years  ll^t'l  and  r.>o4  (Jood  Friday  will  fall  on 
April  2.'{,  Jlii>t«'r  Sunday  will  bi»  April  2o,  and 
Corpus  Ciiii>ti  Juno  21.  In  those  tv.*o  years, 
tln.Teforo,  all  th'^  tlirt'e  requisiti^s  will  be  found: 
but  it  mav  be  as  well  to  m«'ntiou  lli.it  the  vcrv 
.same  occurr«'d  in  l«Ui(>,  antl  the  end  (d*  the  world 
has  not  yet  followed.  There  is  aiioth-jr  proverb, 
which  I  have  often  lieard,  thus: — 

*'  When  our  Lord  falls  in  our  Laily's  lap, 
Kn^l.ind,  bcwnrc  of  a  f^reat  mishap." 

*  Sir  William  of  Dcloraine. 


This^  of  couraei  means  when  li^aster  Dav  falls  apot 
March  25.  '  F.  0,  H. 

Col.  John  Jones  the  Begicidb (4*' S. ix. 490L) 
Early  in  I8G7  I  cut  out  of  a  Welsh  newspapsr  • 
lengthy  extract  about  "  Col.  Jones  the  regiods," 
taken  from  the  Camhro-Briton^  and  signed  W. 
The  writer  states  in  a  note  that  Jones  (bendn 
the  marriage  with  Cromwell's  sister)  <'  wa«  alio 
married  to  Margaret,  daughter  of  John  Edwaidi^ 
of  Stansty,  in  the  county  of  I  Denbigh,  who  xnurt 
have  been  his  iirst  wife.''  I  am  sutry  I  cannnt 
give  you  the  date  of  the  number  of  the  CawAr*' 
Briton  in  whicli  the  above  appears,  but  douhtleii 
some  other  correspondent  can.  A.  B* 

Grocswylan,  Osweatry. 

**LiTTLK  Jock  Elliot"  (4»»'  S.  ix.  383.)  — I 
have  my  doubts  as  to  the  antiquity  and  genuiie- 
ness  of  this  ballad.  It  is  very  like  one  of  Jaam 
Ttdfer\s  old  attempts.  Jock  Elliot's  name  is  cei^ 
tainly,  in  the  border  district,  connected  with  t 
proverb,  but  it  is  "  Wha  daur  mell  wi'  me  P  "  not 
''  meddle."  Hut  that  deviation  is  not  the  only 
thing  that  makes  me  didnnus.  My  opinioD  li 
formed  from  a  con^aideration  of  the  entire  compo- 
sition, which  smacks  of  the  poetical  schoolmiMta 
What  is  tlie  opinion  of  your  learned  correspondMt 
M  u.  li 0  »  KHT  W n iTE  ?  Steph  ew  Jacssoj. 

"  Praises  on  Tombs/'  etc  (4**  S.  ix.  320.)— 
I  remember  some  twenty-five  years  since  comBf 
the  following  in  Litlington  churchyard|  near  La*- 

miugt4in,  from  a  tombstone:  — 

'*  I'raisrs  on  tombn  arc  honours  vainly  spent; 
A  wcll-:(i>ent  life  is  the  bedt  monuineDt.'* 

I.  J.  RXETIL 

Nowhaven. 

('o('KiiOAcin:s  (4»»»  S.  ix.  420.) — A  certain  tod 
.<«afe  remedy  is  requested  for  the  de.'^truction  of 
these  ravagers.  Cockroaches  are  effectually  poi- 
soned by  powdered  colocynth*  kept  in  a  bottk 
with  parchment  over  the  mouth  perforated  witt 
pin-holes.  Whei'e  this  is  spriukled  they  will  not 
approach.  They  are  also  poisoned  if  thej  tarte^ 
or  even  smell,  borax.  F.  C.  IL 

Take  an  earthenware  pan  with  glazed  neai^ 
upright  sides,  and  put  a  few  scraps  of  bread  in  it; 
set  the  pan  on  the  floor,  and  wrap  a  cloth  rMnd 
the  outside  so  that  the  cockroachea  can  enirt 
from  the  floor  to  the  edge  of  the  pan  (wluck 
should  be  at  least  four  or  five  inches  deep),  or  pit 
a  iint  piece  of  wood  up  which  they  mij^twilk 
to  the  edge  from  the  floor.  The  codcroachflO  will 
be  attracted  by  the  smell  of  the  briMidi  will  U 
into  the  pan,  and  in  the  morning  should  be  kilU 
by  pouring  boiling  water  on  them.  G.  &  Ol 

E.  V.  is  quite  right  as  to  ordinary  red  weinik 
They  are  of  no  ase  against  ec  ekroedie^  bttt  t  mI 
wafer  sold  in  sheets  at  eonw  oal  duye  (E  "^'^ 


"S.IX.JUHBlB.'TS.] 


KOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


491 


bought  sheets  in  aa  Oxford  Street  shop,  nearlj 
oppoaite  Dedfard  Chapel)  is  an  eflectire  cure. 

C.  W. 
«  Black  Johs  "  (4"'  S.  ii.  407.)  —  If  M.  E.  Z. 
should  Tisit  Lausanne  and  put  up  at  the  Qibbon, 
he  will  find  in  the  square  opposita  to  that  famod 
hotel  a  man  with  »  brasa  plate  on  hia  cap,  in- 
Bcribed  "Jean  Noir,"  t.  e.  *' Blsrck  John."  The 
individual  is  the  street-keeper.  Whether  the 
"Black  John"  of  Gilraj  is  a  member  of  tiie  atune 
order  as  Jiiau  Noir  of  LausMme  ia  what  I  cannot 
guess  at,  as  the  picture  has  not  come  under  my 
inspeciion.  However,  it  is  worthy  of  note  that 
in  Suisae  Romande  a  atreet-keeper  ia  a  "  Jean 
Noir."  JiUBS  HxxBX  Dixos. 

"  Thb  Reoijckjtal  Drum  "  (4*  S.  ix.  888.)— 
If  M.  D.  refura  to  the  humorous  stoiy,  "  M7  Krat 
Client,"  in  Slackwoottt  Xagazine  for  June,  183R 
(No.  284,  xlv.  733),  he  will  leun  aU  about  thia 
famous  piece  of  military  gear,  which  Hr.  "Thomw 
Buckley,  late  Dnim-Maior,  Condate  local  militia," 
dunned  "Mr.Gibbin  Thropple,  Attimiey-at-Iaw," 
to  recover  under  the  unfruitful  pressure  of  "  a  very 
Ullage  lawyer's  letter  to  Mrs.  Kevett,"  its  wrong- 


;  MoBTHS  (4"'  a  ix.  38a)— An 


the  pleasure  of  knowing  him,  has  frequently  re' 
peated  to  us  the  lines  quoted  by  O.  S.,  witn  thia 

difference : — 

"  M»rch  will  BBuch, 

April  will  tij, 

hiar  Kill  prove 

1/  Ton  live  01  die," 

.     E.i;M. 
Age  of  Ships  (4"  S.  ix.  261,  396.)— The  M- 
lowing  facts  are,  I  should  think,  worthy  of  being 
preserved  in  the  pages  of  "N,  ft  Q." 

A  very  old  sailing  vessel,  the  "Amphitritej" 
WAS  wrecked  H  little  while  ago  at  the  month  of 
the  Tyse,  It  proved  to  be  ninety- aevui  y«an 
old,  and  was  sold  last  week  for  34M  to  Bli.  Jboim 
Young  of  South  Shields.  This  gentleman  ia  alao 
the  owner  of  the  "Brotherly  Love" — a  Teswl 
which  ia  supposed  to  be  127  years  oM,  and  accom- 
panied Captain  Cook  in  a  Tuyage  round  the 
world.  The  latter  vessel  has  recently  ratomed 
from  a  voyage  to  France,  in  the  coarse  of  which 
she  proveii  to  be  perfectly  tight  and  aeaworthT 
in  the  tempestuous  weather  she  encountered. 
Among  the  company  present  at  the  sole — which 
resulted  in  Mr.  \oung  being  the  poaseasoc  of  the 
two  oldest  ships  in  the  world — was,  by  a  coiiou 
coincidence,  a  Mr.  James  Walker,  a  gentleman 
who  waa  formerly  appientica  tm  bowd  tha  "  Betn', 
Cairns,"  a  vesael  which  was  wneked  at  Mi^mfffft 


of  the  Tyne  in  February,  1834.  The  "  Betw 
Gums"  was  then  160  yeara  old,  and  as  'a  royu 
yaoht  conveyed  William  and  Maiy  &om  the  cmh 
Idnent  to  En^and.  Wh.  B.  Hofpsl 

T,  Eaplanade  West,  Sondeiland. 

"  Yxstbbdat'b  ovm,"  arc.  f 4**  a  ix.  181.) — 
Fart  of  the  concluding  verse  of  "  Say,"  in  Origmnl 
Poena  for  h^ast  Mmdt  by  tteeral  Yoimg  AnoM^ 
"Day'^'  ia  by"  Ann  Taylor.  L.  &  K. 

Sir  CoLiir  Cavpbxu.  no^  ATlKmtxunr  (4^8. 
iz.  391,  41S.>— My  thanks  to  O.  C.  for  hia  tunelr 
rectification.  I  liappened  not  to  be  within  ream 
of  my  books  relative  to  the  Crimean  war  wh«m  I 
wrote  the  short  note  on  General  BourbaM ;  still  I 
ought  to  have  known  better.  It  was  tlut  di^ 
tiBgniBbed  comniaiider  Sir  Geoiga  Catheart  I  had 
in'  mind  at  th«  moment,  who,  with  hia  aid»4»T 
camp,  the  gallant  CoL  Seymour,  met  with  a 
^hmons  death  at  the  head  of  the  fourth  diridoo; 
where  fell  likewise  old  Oennal  Stiangwaja  aad 
Majoi^<Hneml  GoUi^  whose  brigade  boonpied 
the  left  of  the  road  to  Inkennann.  Bat  I  oouUL. 
have  equallT  extolled  for  thdr  indomitable  oonnn 
and  daring  Sir  George  Brown,  at  Uie  bead  <f  the 
light  divisini ;  the  Doke  of  Cambridge  and  Mmot- 
Geneial  Bent^Kk^  with  the  ^tendid  bi^nde  of  Oa 
Onaids,at  tha  iMonte  to>irai!db  the  Tchemda; 
Major- Ganarala  Penna&tber  and  Adanu^  with  tin 
eeoonddiTinai;  and,"  though  last  not  toMl^''Loid 
Raman's  Mde-da-camp — heirith  theheortofataeL 
I  trust  I  hare  now  made  niffiinent  amt»dt  Aoior- 
aiU  tot  having  thna  aUowad  my  menMny  nnao- 
countably  to  go  aitray.  P.  A.  L. 

Perhaps,  after  all,  if  "Alma"  were  aubati- 
tuted  for  "  Inkermann,"  P.  A.  L.  would  not  be 
far  out.  I  hardly  remember  what  share  fell  to 
the  fVench  in  that  traoaaction ;  but  it  is  cartun 
that  there,  at  least,  Sir  Colin  did  lead  his  High- 
landats— when  they  were  blown  up  the  ascent 
to  the  stiwis  of  the  bagrdpe  under  the  lungs  cf 
the  stalwart  Scotch  piper  Donald  Bain.       R.  B. 

NoTBUtn'  Flowim  («•*  S.  ix.  86,  14S^  ai6» 
414.>— Dr.  Betksnho^t  writes  to  hia  sm  (za  CU- 
Iha  pabtdrii)  that  it  is  only — 
«  appuaotly  of  .the  HawnnW*  mma.  'U  li  liiilsiil  nf 
tbe  Mm*  cluB  and  odor,  vis.  Al^mMfris  fv^ngmim,  bM 
dUhra  am  tha  HtumKtM  Is  luwlng  no  eaA^  as  as^ 
tarimm,  and  Id  Ua  SMda  iMiag  lndo««l  ta  MttMlsi.  It 
TMmbln  tha  BaaMnJi  ia  havlaf  «v«  raimM  mIsIb  t 
'^— t^  an  nst  ^aasd  en  tha  appw  tUa.    tlMkawm 

V  la  pain  ca  npanta  ftJmftU.     As  Iwns  SM 


gnw  la  pain  ca  npanta 
hMrMh^wd."— F.  SSST 

Tha  plsBt  sold  in  Hamhoig  nndi 
JVoMMHrsM  is  the  ecMKfi^-laaTad 
(QmaatsMMM  oMfiflfein).      JoazPH  Bix, 

CMWayafcHWiisiiotiww''ttacplyaperfw«< 
tlMt  gsMi  ibnd  la  W7  iMt  of  Aa  indS." 


492 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES, 


[4^8.IX.  JuaiBl5p7: 


Sowerby,  writing  twenty  years  after  Berkenhout,  ] 
figures  C,  radicans  also,  and  speaks  of  three  others^  | 
but  he  does  not  figure  them  nor  hal  seen  them.      I 

"Golden  chain''  is  a  vulgar^English  name  for 
the  laburnum.  P.  P. 

J.  A.  Atkinson  (-i***  S.  ix.  209,  372,  415.)— 
With  many  thanks  to  correspondents,  it  was  not 
the  book  but  the  caricaturist  I  was  inquiring 
about.  When  The  Miseries  came  out  they  were  in 
everv  body's  mouth,  like  "Brown,  Jones,  and 
Bobmson."  Atkinson's  sixteen  clever  coloured 
illustrations  were  published  by  Miller,  Albemarle 
Street,  1807,  as  a  thing  to  lie  on  the  drawing- 
room  table.     Size  about  eight  inches  by  seven. 

P.P. 

This  series  of  plates,  about  which  some  mystifi- 
cation seems  to  exist,  is  lying  before  me.  It  is 
entitled :  — 

"  Sixteen  Scenes  taken  from  *  The  Miseries  of  Human* 
Life.'    liv  one  of  the  Wretched. 

"  *  lie  best  can  paint  them  who  Las  felt  them  most.* 

FOJM.'. 

"  London,  published  bv  William  Miller,  Albemarle  Street, 
March  Ist,  1807." 

The  plates  are  "  drawn  and  sketched  by  John 
Augustus  Atkinson,"  to  illustrate  Bt'resford's  well- 
known  work,  and  are  delicately  tinted  in  the  man- 
ner of  Ilowlandson.  The  drawing  is  correct,  and 
they  are  not  without  considerable  merit,  though 
certainly  inferior  to  the  productions  of  that  great 
artist.     Atkinson  was  author  also  of — 

**  A  Picturesque  Representation  of  the  Naval,  Military, 
and  Miscellaneous  Costumes  of  Great  ISritain.  London, 
1807."    Royal  folio. 

And  (in  conjunction  with  James  Walker)  of — 

"  A  Picturesque  Kepresentation  of  the  Manners,  Cus- 
toms, and  Amusementii  of  the  Russians.  London,  1^1 2." 
Imp.  folio. 

lie  was  still  living  in  1810,  his  name  appearing 
at  the  foot  of  a  coloured  plate  in  my  portfolio, 
published  this  year  by  Edward  Orme,  li^nd  Street, 
entitled  *'  The  Poet,"  a  caricature  representation 
of  a  ragged  bard  of  the  Grub  Street  school,  now 
happily  extinct.  William  Bates. 

i^irmingluim. 

'^Oss,"  or^Orse"  (4'»»  s.  ix.  404.)  — I  have 
not  met  with  this  word  in  the  orthography  of 
orsc,  as  mentioned  by  your  correspondent;  but  it 
is  known  in  Craven,  and  in  Westmoreland  and 
Cumberiand,  in  the  forms  of  osh  and  aw;,  in  the 
seuvso  of,  to  otier  to  do,  to  attempt.  Ferguson 
cites  from  Mrs.  Wheeler's  7/  'cstmorelnnil  Diahxjnes 
the  expression  "  ommj  towards  housekeeping,'* 
where,  as  ho  remarks,  it  has  the  sense  of  **  pre- 
paring for  or  looking  forward  to."  Mr.  Gaakell, 
he  says,  refers  this  word  to  the  Welsh  osi^  to 
attempt ;  but  Ferguson  supposes  it  derived  from 
Norse  vaka,  to  wish,  though  there  be  a  less  ap- 
parent resemblance.     Here  at  least  we  plainly 


have  the  derivation  of  the  term  *^  asking,"  used  to 
designate  the  act  of  publishing  the  banns.  Then 
is,  at  all  events,  no  better  reason  to  derive  the 
Craven  and  Cumberland  word  oise^  oss,  from  the 
Welsh  than  the  converse,  the  northern  tonffues 
being  most  probably  the  parents  of  both.  Fer- 
guson well  remarks  that — 

*'  The  principle  of  referring  to  the  Celtic,  erea  for  a  word 
which  cannot  be  found  m  the  Gotliic  dialect8»  is  out 
which  ought  to  be  resorted  to  with  some  reserve.  For  it 
often  happens  that  a  word  is  not  to  be  found,  only  be> 
cause  we  do  not  know  where  to  look  for  it.*' 

J.  Gk.  B. 

This  word  is  in  common  use  in  Nottingham- 
shire and  Derbvshire  in  both  the  senses  named  by 
F.  0.  H.  In  tne  sense  of  beginning  to  do,  I  have 
heard  a  small  farmer  during  a  long  drought  atT: 
*^  Dun  you  know  if  the  glasses  is  osting  to  aattla  r" 
That  is  to  say,  '^  Is  the  mercury  in  the  barometer 
beginning  to  fall  ? ''  Then,  in  answer  to  the  in- 
quiry whether  a  man  had  accomplished  somethiog 
ho  had  intended  to  perform,  I  have  heard  it  siii^ 
'<  No,  he  ossed,  but  could  na  do  it"         Elloee. 

"  Wooden  Nutmegs  "  (4«»  S.  ix.  182.)— In  Tk$ 

Mirror  (No.  831,  date  of  April  29,  1837,  p.  272) 

is  this  paragraph :  — 

"  That  eternal  scoundrel,  that  Captain  John  Allspte 
of  Nahant,  he  used  to  trade  to  Charleston,  and  he  carried  t 
cargo  once  there  of  fifty  barreb  of  nutmegs.  Wdl,  hs 
put  half  a  bushel  of  good  ones  into  each  end  of  the  baiiilp 
and  the  rest  he  fiU(^  up  with  wooden  ones,  so  like  thi 
real  thing,  no  soul  could  tell  the  difference  until  At  M  , 
ont  with  his  teeth,  and  that  he  never  thought  of  doiaK 
until  he  was  first  bit  himself.** 

The  paragraph  is  taken  from  some  woik^aV- 
lished  about  tne  time,  but  I  have  aeen  it  u  a 
more  extended  form.  Is  it  to  be  found  in  2^ 
Cloi'kmakerf  Thos.  Ratcufr. 

"Le  Cur6  de  Pontoise:  En  kryssaxt  di 
Pontoise"  (4*"  S.  ix.  388.)  —  Pontoiae  is  the 
Briva  Isarse  of  the  Latins,  the  Pons  laane  of  the 
Middle  Ag:es.  It  is  situated  thirty-five  IdL  north 
of  Versailles  (Seine-et-Oise),  and  has  a  con- 
siderable com  trade,  copper  loundries,  and  manu- 
factories of  beautiful  works  in  steel.  Sevenl 
kings  of  France  resided  there :  Philip  I.,  Louis  IX. 
(Saint  Louis) ;  Queen  Isabella  of  Hamaalt,  Joanna 
of  France.  Louis  XIV.  retired  there  daring  tha 
Fronde.  I  know  nothing  about  le  Curd  de  Fon- 
toise ;  but  I  well  remember,  when  a  child  in  1814| 
the  maids  in  the  nursery  laughing  outright  whtm 
one  of  them  made  us  sing —  • 

**  La  servantc  du  curd,  6  mon  Dien,  <^a*e]le  est  soCtfl^ 
Elle  a  vendu  son  cotillon  pour  se  fSura  nne  enlottai 
Ah  I  tu  t*en  souviendraa^  la  Lira 
Du  curd  dc  Pomponne,"— 

I  nor  do  I  know  anything  more  about  the  Cmi  da 
Pomponne.  P.  A.  Ifc 

<<  Make  a  Bridge  of  Gold,**  to  (4^^  8.  it 
307.)— In  the  I^ench  txaaabtion  rf  l^ip^* 


I^S-IX.  Jdi™I5,72.] 


KOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Thomaai'fl  lAfe  of  Qatar  Borgia,  Ihike  of  Vaiai- 
ttnoit,  I  find  at  p.  64 :  — 

"Tandis  qne  les  meunea  FlorentJns  eurent  eonTcnii 
depnis  TentrSa  de  Charles  VIII  duu  leor  ville,  Uqiiel]i> 
fut  bonor^e  de  loat  ce  qai  paavoit  TebaoBaeT  M  pnlseuicc 
et  sa  gloire,  de  lui  faitt  tin  pout  iTcr  ^  la  aortic  de  leiir 
estat  M  it  1>  poanuite  de  see  entrsnriKt,  de  loi  tbarnir 
one  growe  somme  d'arg«nt,  et  de  lelsaer  entra-  lea  nulnn 
de  aa  majeBt^  Pise,  Livonio,  Pietra  Santa,  Serezana  ct 
Sernanello." 

P.  A.  L. 

Mr.  Loet  Hyde's  MABBiiOB  (4'^  S.  ii.  426.)— 
Mr.  Pepf  8  records ;  — 

-May,  1665,  lli^  (Lont'a  da?).  To  chnreh.it  bdiiL; 
Whit-SuDdaj;  017  wife  verj  fioe  in  a  new  jellmr  Uid'E- 
eye  hood,  ai  the  fashion  ia  now." 

It  is  improbabla  that  the  mairuf(e  wonld  Uikc 
place  in  Clarendon  Houne  chapel,  U  the  chaprl 
would  hardlj  be  built  befora  Clarendon  Hon^e 
itaelf  was.  Air.  Feter  CunniDgham  mtb  that 
Charles  II.  granted  the  land  for  the  house  June  13, 
1664,  only  sloven  months  before  the  da;  of  th>j 
marriage.  And  Evelyn,  on  November  28, 1666, 
says  he  "went  to  see  Clarendon  House,  now 
tUmoit  finished."  Spaszs  H.  Willuhs. 

IS,  Kensington  Creactnt,  W. 

Red  Dbeb  (4"'  S.  ix.  428.)— I  am  informed  bj- 
the  Hev.  H.  C.  Brewster,  of  South  Kdeey,  who 
was  bom  atid  brought  up  in  the  pariah  of  3t. 
Nicholas,  Nottingham,  that  there  was,  and  pro- 
bably  stdll  is,  on  the  south  side  of  the  chnrcli,  a  1 
etone  in  memory  of  "  Tom  Booth."  a  famone  | 
jM»cher.  The  epitaph  wonld,  he  belioTe^  throw-  \ 
some  light  on  the  question  of  the  use  of  cross-  , 
bow  or  harquebus  for  killing  deer.  He  cannot 
remember  the  whole  inscription;  but  there  ig 
some  conceit  turning  upon  the  poacher  fallin|{  a 
victim  to  death's  boil,  or  something  of  that  kind. 
It  begins  and  ends  something  like  Uiis :  — 

"  Here  lies  Tom  Booth,  who  with  ....  ihill 
fat  bucks  and  doM  did  UlL 

fbr  anrely  such  another 
Xe'et  issued  Ctata  the  bdljr  of  a  mother." 
It  seems  unlikely  that  guns  were    used  by 

Eoachers  at  the  beginning  of  the  last  canton, 
ecause  it  was  esteemed  a  special  advantage  for 
persons  in  pursuit  of  the  kings  deer  to  have  a  dog 
which  so  seized  a  buck  as  to  prevent  his  ctying, 
and  so  betraying  the  poacher.  The  sound  of  a 
gun  would  be  beard  much  further  ihaa  the  cnr  of 
a  deer.  J,  T.F. 

Hatljeld  Hsil,  Diirham. 

FisaEKCAKE8(4"'S.  ix.l76,32S.)— Outofmnoli 
information  which  has  been  received  with  respect 
to  finger  cakes,  the  following  note,  seat  in  die 
original  MS,,  is  selected :  — 
'  Dear  Sir, 

^  Ae  to  the  finger  cakes  of  Lantwlt,  I,  who  am  a 
bom  and  bred  Lantoaiin,  can  mj  that  I  have  aalH 
many  and  manj  of  them.    Fuitbsr,  I  make  it  a  miiiImiu 


I  every  Chriatmat  to  get  eome  made  fbr  my  own  use,  and 
far  presents.  Hundreds,  If  not  thmtaanda,  oT  such  eidna 
vers  made  In  fbrmer  yeais  In  Lantwit  by  Peggy  linrtt, 
David  Thomai,  ke.,  pnUio  bakers ;  aad  there  an  ■oors* 
of  peisoiu  in  sod  aroaod  Lantwlt  who  oaa  lettll^  to  that 
hcti  for  instance,  Biehard  Charies,  Huy  Balwin,  Wil- 
liam Thomas,  Ivy  Hona^  Quardian,  &c  M.  da 
"  I  am,  dear  dr, 
"  Aberkenfigg,  Toon  truly. 

May  27/72.  -  WiuuK  JOBV." 

As  th^  above  comes  from  a  respect«ble  and 
well-known  person,  occupying  a  public  poaition, 
it  may  be  denned  by  many  a  not ''  nnsatuEKtinj 

I  Further,  finger  cakes  hare  not  011I7  been  "■sol" 
but  even  enten  hj  the  undeiaigned.  Lastly,  it 
may  be  permianbu  to  »dd  tlutt  what  is  Wttariy 

I  called  "spinning  a  yam,"  to  impOM  on  the  Eaitot 
of  "  N,  ft  Q."  or  any  one  dsc^  would  be  most 


alien  to  the  haUt  of 


R.&H. 


'  Dissmrmta  M^utkm  di  Vixluxox  (4*^  8. 
is.  439.) — In  replying  to  the  query  of  Mk.  MTr.r.ni, 
a  ^ood  deal  will  depend  <xi  what  ha  wonld  oJI  a 
Dissenting  mhdster.  In  lome  denondnatirais  men 
in  trade  adopt  the  titla.  of  "Rarennd"  (as,  for 
instancy  the  Welsh  CalTinisdo  Methodists),  and 
in  other  cases  msn  whose  whole  li^  is  spent  in 
ministerial  mak  repudiate  the  "  Rer."  altcwe^wr. 
Thus  wa  hare  Mr.  R.  W.  Dale,  and  Geoiga 
Dawson,  Esq.,  H.A,,  of  Krmiiwham.  I  have  an 
impresBon  that  the  lata  Mr.  bminnioad,  ILR, 
meached  ammigst  thalrrmgiteB;  aadlcnce  heaid 
George  Thompaan,  when  he  vaa  membn  fbr  the 
Tower  Hamleti,  ^eaeh  in  ki  Aidapa&dent  diapd. 
bt  a  LwoesletpaMr  this  w«ek  I  see  that "  OecRga 
Uacdonald,  LCD.,  author  of  Mta  Ferhti,  Sobtrt 


nauuinuuu,  Liu      _  ._._... ._,  ___ 

FafeMwr,  &c,''ia  to  preach  two  serauna  in 
"Wydiflb  Congregational  OharcH^nrtliittri 
nSunday;  andlamTary mnch 


the 

Oharck"  of  that  town 
ndataken  if  cor- 
respondents do  not  send  to  yon  many  more  in- 
ttancea  of  reaching  M.F.a  than  Hb.  MllKlilt 
knows  of.  The  title  of  "Itereiend"  sits  nrj 
loosely  <»i  the  shoulders  of  Noneonfonnists. 

A.B. 


Bum  (4«  S.  ix.  919, 287.)— This  name  is  to  ba 
found  in  Sent.  May  it  not  be  deriTed  from  aHM, 
aitt  HABimo  H(opBnr. 

CzivoxB  Faklx  (4<^  S.  ix.  881,  4S6.>— If 
^[b.  HusHALL  had  mad  Hx.  FuBnriix'a  <<M>I> 
Forewords"  to  his  parallalrtezt  edittoo  of  dtoNar's 
Jfwer  Aem^  ha  would  not  fcel  so  eaMa  a*  to 
the  identic  of  Geoffimr  Ohatioar'a  wift  as  ha 
seams  to  be.  FhOippa  Boat  (not  B^)  may  ban 
imm  Qia  poet's  wil^  and  Thonaa  Ohauoer  mqr 
liartf  h«en  his  am;  W  then  Is  not  a  shadow  of 
t  fin  eidiar  •t^peiitloo.  The  two  sappoasl 
■M  eidi  too  weak  to  itud  alone,  but  wlwi 


X 


■fgdnf  In  a  dnda^  nooM 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[«>B.IX.  Jtm  Ill's. 


Chaucei  is  said  to  be  Chaucer'a  son  because  tht 
Roet  arms  are  oit  his  tomb,  and  Fhilippa  Roet  ii 
eaiJ  to  ba  Cliauce  '       ■"    * 


ID  qiiestlai 
"N.  &  i. 


long  n  one  to  be  ar^rued  in 

assuredly  Mr.  MAR8n.\i.i.'8  doniiir  aocs  no»  in  any  i 

■way  invalidate  Mb.  Fprxiiau.'s  arstinnBot. 

HkSHVB.  WnEATEEY.      I 

Will  Ma.  M.kR.<n.iLL  prodiico  his  evidence  that  i 
"llolt"  was  "the  family  of  Geoli'rey  Chaucer'a 
wife"?  I  siippone  Mil  MAR.«n.iLL  alludes  to  the 
exploded  notion  that  rhili]ipaUhnucerwft5  a  Ri>et  I 
before  her  niorrisge. 

F.  J.  FURSIVALL. 

"  Otttta  cavat  LapipIvM  "'  (4"-  S.  ii.  82,  414.> 
I  believe  tlmt  the  first  writer  who  makes  u»o  of 
tliis  pn>verbiol  expresaion  is  Richard,  a  monk  of 
the  celebratpd  nhbi-v  of  H.  Victor  at  Paris,  who 
died  about  117:>.  liichard  of  S.  Victor  was  a 
Scotchman  by  birth,  oiid  has  left  bufaiod  him 
many  eloquent  devotionul  treatises.  In  his  work 
entiled  Ailni/f'tUtmrJi  luyaife  in  Ptnlmos,  after 
quoting  tlie  Uvidian  distich  bi-ginning  "  (juid 
magiH  est  durum  saxo,"  Le  adds — 

"liiiiil  UpiiieUiiriui,  qiiiilar]u4iniilliu=?  VerumtimPn 
(rattn  cavM,  lii|iiilom  iiaii  vi  led  iwpc  cwIi'Dilo."  (Mignc's 
falroUyta  L-itlmi,  vol.  i:xi-ri.  p.  JifU.) 

J.  C.  IIedlet. 

•  JOHS  "WKsrKl-'s   FooTPRI.tTS   f;!'"   P.  pniuiim  ; 

4'"  S.  is.  l:i(i.)— ThiTU  i.r.-,  it  Pcems,  Mill  pnnip 
who  believe  in  llie  miriinilons  nntnrB  of  the,'"'.  1 
extract  the  fiiSlowin^'  fiinii  n  li'tter  from  fi  Xot- 
tiu<{bamAhire  clergyman,  dated  May  '-'A,  1^72 : — 

"1  anil  II  f>ti'iirl  were  in  thi>  cliuruhyird  trouilirini; 
which  u'RH  tliii  Ml<itia  iin  wliii'h  \V(>»l»y  wan  niipjicxivd  tu 
have  licid  rortli,  irhrn  airnman  pswiiif:  liy.  I  cniiuired  at 
Im  vhpm  it  niiKht  lie.  She  jmnwtliatd.v  Ruiilril  urntpta 
the  atone  nilli  wliirh  vnn  arf  a«)naintml  liy  tiio  prieit'fl 
door  t  on  it  were  ucrtnia  kiivvn  inuki  emtnnniily  kiinwn 
ai  inm  marks,  and  to  a  qiiMtiun  from  me  what  tliese 
marks  niiitiit  bo,  vho  aniwrml  at  once  with  all  sincerity', 
and  a  fall  lielid'— "that  llipy  were  Ihe  muricH  of  W<wlej-'» 
foet.bnmt  in  tlii'm  by  tb":  ^y'vnX  hm  iie  bIooiI  iirennliiiij;  (i> 
the  pi?-rilf.'  ( In  tnrtlior  iiiiv-liniiin!;  iier,  tlii"  iiiincan-'il 
t'l  l«-  lU  ciirrem  Wlicf  of  Ihii  eiilishicnal  f,.llow,T.  .li 
\V™li-v." 

J.  T.  F. 

Ilatnd'l  rlnlU  Durham. 

«Br»rr.E:!"  ("4*  S.  ix.  n^ia)— Wlience  is  the 
aUnfr  word  hJMe  derived  P  Tlie  verb  tu  Imhhlr  ■^- 
"ta  cheat,"  nnd  the  aubntanlive  hiihhk,  hk  applied 
to  men,  nni  of  course  much  oldor  th.in  thu  slan^ 
word.  SImfcpspeam'rt  use  of  ihii  sulistantite  Ca? 
in  AlFt  IVrll,  lye.,  ill.  vi.  B,  where  I'anilka  is 
atifmiati^Ml  a*"  "a  bubble")  (!H(r;ii!!its  only  t!ic 
ordinary  derivation.  lint  in  1  [iilliivfll  &  Wrijiht's 
Narea  n  quotation  in  (riven  wlmn.'  biiUilf  =  n  man 
who  has  Ifi'n  bubbled  or  chentod.  Thin  and  (yet 
more  ho)  tlie  verb  do  not  imply  the  ordinary  dC' 
rivation  eo  clearly. 


I       Wedgwood  (snb   "  Dupe,"   'wliich   ha  doilB 

from  Fr.  dupe,  di'jipc,  a  hoopoe)  aajB  — 

"Tim'-  from  ll.  IvLMn,  a  hooiua,   iuUolmt  (fMlK 
via  eau  Inginao),  to  cheKt — illieri,  whcnm  E.  la  Mih 

I  JOHK  ASDIB,  iLA. 

I       Mav  not  thi^  exprssaion  luTe  oiip^nmted  wA 

Shnke'speare ?   (Matbetk,  Act  I.   Sc.  a)    He  f* 

thu   moutli   of   Banquo,    when   ^•cbetai 


of  the  witches  having   ' 


•■  Ami  whst  scem'J  corpoml,  mdtcd 
An  bnutlli  into  wind  " — 
those  words — 

"Thce.irth  hu  babbles,  as  the  water  has, 
And  these  are  af  tbem." 

Latuuml 
Sir  RrriiARD  Lee,  1500  (4"'  S.  ii,  42".)-^ 
the  Xj*  Paperg  (vol.  xlii.  art.  ?>  i«  a  letttr  * 
Honor  Grenville,  wife  of  Arthur  Lord  lisle  (mi 
of  lildward  IV.  and  Elisabeth  Lucy),  lugnnl " jov 
lovinge  Cow^n,  Hie.  Lee."  The  letter  wai  wot 
ten  (as  the  internal  evidence  ahows)  in  or  tbart 
IS-I!).  Ladv  Lisle  wna  descended  from  the  &b- 
lieH  of  Giluert  of  Oompton,  Georges,  Bcmnlli^ 
and  Oourtenay  of  Powderham  (Devon);  fanttti 
eousinsbip  ini|:;ht  be  to  either  of  her  hofbai^ 
the  iirst  of  whom  was  Sir  John  Bonet  of  Und» 
leigli,  CO.  Dei-on.  I  have  been  unaUe  to  Iom 
the  relationship.  If  your  correspondmit  riuMlili 
more  fcirtunate,  I  shotdl  be  greatly  oUioad  if  Ii 
would  [Wrmit  me  to  share  in  the  kaowle^v. 

HsKinmBuw 


A  WEwn  Baud,  1641  {S,"  S.  i 


L  200.)- 


Juhn  Dav.v,  ■  WelnhmaD,  which  takyvCh*  apaa  Im 
in  ue  a  nmnhtiorcT,  tulicitcd  permiuiaa  U>  iniakwitt 
lleur>-VllLiliMt 


tulicitcd  permiuiaa  U>  ipiaki- 
)  19  able  to  ihow  iooha  thingi  M  Ii 
niHwi!  nlKirtelj-  ciiminynK— very  needful  and  nnHiV 
(or  ii.irry  tn  banw.  That  afWr  ha  had  opvnvd  Mcl* 
thinpt  to  the  Kind's  Grace,  as  he  hatbe  in  hia  Rlootid* 
tn  ahnw,  hi^  would  be  content  to  be  sent  to  anv  prim 
ibi?  liki'd  to  send  him."— Ellia'i  LtUert,  iii.  ibl,  rigBid 
liy'-Juhn  Ciresham." 

A  prisiin,  unfortnnataly,  was  not  eonMdcni 
ennuirh.  The  sequel  Wt  this  poor  felluw'a  ente- 
voiir  to  apeal;  to  his  majes^  ia  given  in  Sto>M| 
P;  .W2 :  — 

"Tlii'lflt  of  July  n  VVelthnun,  >  minntTFl,  was  hHfri 
niiJ  ijuartered  for  ninRinK  of  mgi,  which  w«ra  iii*' 
\,ii-\i-.\  lo  Ihv  prii]ihe«cng  againit  the  King." — WilkkA 
If  »/.'(,  I'lut  iiHii  PriKHt,  p.  383,  adiL  I87D. 

Glwti».* 

" Ivisos  Gap "  (4'"  8. ir. 300.)— On  the  Ste- 
non  a  "king's  ffap"  is  an  opeaing  reqidiad  kf 
Htatnte  to  be  left  in  a  fish  wear  to  allow  aahBon 
to  run  tip  the  river.  A  atory  ia  cnmott  ■mb|^ 
fishiTmen  on  the  Shannon  that  the  owaeutt  m» 
of  these  wears  moored  a  atn  1  ottor,  «Jdl  k^ 
glass  eyes,  in  the  " kioa'a  |  '  Ut  U  UiWMt] 
thus  obeying  the  law,  bat       ntg  d«  AjUft 


4*  a.  IX,  Jt:s«  15,  TS.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


49S 


the  plftpo  the  owner  wished  them  to  go.  The 
"  King's  Gup  "  mentioned  by  G.  B.  S.  mipht  havp 
been  toe  road  leading  down  to  one  of  these  Gsh 
pawes.  C.  B.  C, 

EoclfSlon  Sqiiare.  S.W. 

Ball  Family  (4.'"  S.  is.  4250—1  ewinot  help 

{our  coirespondant  to  the  facts,  but  I  can  gto-o 
im  a  clue.  The  most  distinguished  repnaenta- 
tive  at  present  of  the  Balla  of  Armurh  is  toe  Riifht 
Hon.  Dr.  Ball,  M.P.  for  ths  University  of  Dubfiii, 
wid  vicar-^neral  of  the  atchdiocece  of  Armagh. 
CTV. 
Mr.  Milburr's  Castle  (4""  S.  ix.  427.)— TIh^ 
bouse  alluded  to  must  hare  been  Wonastow  Hou«i-. 
about  two  miles  from  Monmouth,  where  the  family 
<rf  Milboum  then  resided.  It  is  no  castle,  but 
timplj  a  dwelling-house,  and  it  has  been  nbmlt,  ' 
Altered,  or  enlarf^d  since  that  time;  bntpaitnt'  : 
the  old  house  still,  I  believe,  remuna,  I 

OciATitn  UoBa&x.  i 
"A  Man  of  Sifaw  "  (l*  S.  riL  pamim:  i"-- 
S,  is.  457,  Notices  to  Correapondents  —  J.  j 
MAJirEL.) — This  tenn  was  applied,  1  believe,  nut  I 
to  a  "convenient  witness,"  hut  to  a  pereon  will-  , 
ingtobecomobsil  (for  a  consideration)  for  anothc] 
in  times  when  bail  was  more  frequently  requirei 


land  the  term  itell  is  used  to  designate  the  spiral 
worm  or  channel  throagh  which  the  spirit  pasms 
in  the  process  of  distiUatton  (a  microscopic  notion 
of  "  a  small  running  etream  "),  and  heoee  the 
expression  "  hig  etell  whiaby,"  which  denotea  a 
coarser  spitit,  produced  from  a  wORa  of  laiger 


straws  in  their  shoes.  Such  at  least  is  the  ex|^- 
nation  of  the  phrase  I  heard  in  that  hall  mor.' 
than  forty  yoHrs  ago.  cccsi. 

"STrLL"  f4">  S.  ix.  447.)— This  tann  in  Oi.. 
North  ofEnglnnd  is  said  to  he  npplied  to  a  rwn- 
tiinff  atrenni.  I'mt  i^in/ri  whether  the  strenmi- 
referr«d  tn,/or>P  oioorlsnd  brooks, did  not  recnvc 
their  names  from  the  iteUH,  Oeilt,  sAeM,  »i»Wi. 
(nheals,  shpaiitiHs,  Latin  scnlingas),**,  m»bi,and 
tkaieii,  which  wore  situRted  on  their  banhs,  and 


all  of  which  v 


.0  other  than  huts  oi 


Jet  more  generally  those  in 
iclosnrc  and  sheltir  of  the  young  cattle  of  the 
form  and  thior  herds,  when  the  former  were  re- 
moved back  from  the  homestead  to  enjoy  or  coa- 
anme  the  herbage  of  the  outlying  pasturages. 
(0,K  rtael;  Sax.  ifildim-Ugere :  Jam.  e.  "itaie"  i 
and  "slell":  Leo's  Kommc.  "sei,"  p.  M;  IsL  ' 
«»rf  and  fknli:  Su.-Goth.  tcaie;  and  FergOMn's 
Jforthmm.  pa-'sim).  If,  however,  lUU  be  dunc- 
teristic  of  the  stirams  themselves,  it  would  imf  ly 
they  wore  ijwMi-st.iynant,  standing,  or,  at  least 
very  sluggi.'hty  running  ones.  EsrSDaKI. 

This  wnr'l  in  the  Scottish  dialect  means  "  a 
deep  pool  in  n  river,  where  nets  for  eatdung 
ealmoQ  are  nlaced."  Again,  dtU-tiat,  "a  Bat 
Btretched  out  by  stakes  into,  and  somathnM  qnittt 
across,  the  ehnnnel  of  a  river."  JamSaKm,  noi^ 
ever,  throws  no  light  as  to  the  detlTBtion, 
I  have  an  indislmct  recoUeation  dut  in  Seot- 


Tapksxll  (4*  S.  iz.  447.)— Hay  not  this  word 
be  cognate  with  tHe  adjective  tcper,  in  the  seUM 
otthm,tmaUf         COOXL 

sons  OS  BOOKS.  ETC. 
Tits  Paton  LeOart,  Uii-ltM.  A-D.    A  Ntm  RdiUmi  em- 

aian/anb  rf  F»vr  Hmuhtd  LaUtn  JUMcrte  v*- 
uL    BXtai  tw  Jams*  Galrdner  of  Iba  PnbHe 
OfflOB.     Fobiw  /,  BoBf   VI.  14»41,  a.i>. 
,      (Aiber.} 

[  It  «u  a  loTtanit*  da^  to  EngUih  Htatny,  ta  uj 
nothing  of  English  ADtlqniriei,  wben  tba  impacaldori^ 
!  otWilUMi  PaHoB,  aeeond  Eai  1  of  TaiiiuiMh,  lad  Un  to 
Mn  his  tanflv  pipen  to  PMer  Le  Rave.  Hew  Ikaf 
pansd  ftnm  bb  hands  Intolboixf  ■■beosrtTnallaitb 
dT  Palsravs,"  and  ersntiuliv  Into  tbcM  oT  Ht  Jotk 
Fcnn,  bj  whom  itivj  Wire  paulsbed,  ws  nMd not rtnto 
lall ;  bnt  it  wu  net  a  dajr  to  ba  laeMBtad  irtm  a  os- 
MngnUhcd  man  of  Mton  MKBoltd  bow  ftr  the  eoMplele 
IlanipeaniMe  of  all  Ifae  MiS.  was  a  groaed  ftr  tsatln^ 
IodU  on  the  aotbntidly  of  the  paUisbtd  lettei*.    FM 

_      rat  hd  to fanohT— Inqi '     '    ""  " 

'  many  of  ths  uladng  atwnal^  and 
ineditcd  lettens  «nd  thatdlsgomry 
Lhepioant  edition,  nndCT  the  oanAit 

^endMce  of  Mr.  Qtiriaa  at  tbc  Pal 

Utei  th«  tMUtnear  to  lbs  value  af  tbeselitten(iTtab]r 
«  high  in  aatborlqr  aa  Ur.  BaUam,  we  majr  take  foe 
innted  th^  Ustorical  Inportano^  and  coaBaa  minalvB 
ro  a  notice  of  Uienooatlar  iUhi  M  caoildsntioa  of  tba 
iforit  bsAiie  sa.  Tbe  first  of  tfaen  is  Its  (treat  tonmlsn 
IMS.  It  contains  bar  hoDdred  son  Uttsn  than  vtaa't 
>  dmon.  Tbsie  ars  sjl  anai^ed  ia  ohroDokeJeal  ordar, 
IUD7  0/  Ibtoi  iriikh  had  barn  -mladatad  b;  Fena  now 
]  4lllng  Into  tbair  proper  plaoa,  and  tbe  adilor  has  pia- 
lixed  io  ail  of  tbMi  aaah  taifbratatiaa  a>  will  eiublB  ths 
indertojadgsfinhiosilf  bowbr  theiditailal  snaaga- 
rimit  has  bew  wsU  ftivaded.  Wbtn  ve  add  that  the 
itivli  wiil  be  onmpktwt  In  tbns  velanMS— for  &r  Ian 
liau  iba  tom  far  wfaicdi  one  of  tba  original  five  voIbbsb 
■old  have  beat  paidiand— we  ban  daa*  sBeafh  to 
'How  tbe  oUigatioBs  wfaiA  Ib.OaMiMr  and  fala  pA- 
iiher  havg  oonfared  an  aU  Stntaau  of  Ei«Uih  HlsM/. 
Tna  SociKTTor  AxTiQtiaBaat  8vvticnBAi.Mmrv- 


MggastloQ  hd  to  taqnhj— Inqnlnr  to  tl 

I  nioent  edition,  nnder  tbe  oanAil  sod  iUe  lanaAK 
lAlce  of  Mr.  Oali4»r  of  tbe  PaUic  Besord  Uleib 


W^atmaOm  ly  the  — riL|  a  apsiaai  enamlltoa—i 
■isMkL  faddBH  llt.i^s>WtBl  ibaUrector,  thsltaa 
o^WiiiiiilMliU  agff.  »s.  Ihahte  >b.BiMi^ly, 


496 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES, 


[4tk  S.  IX.  Juke  15, 7! 


1.  That  the  inquiry  be  limited  to  monuments  of  penons 
who  died  not  later  than  the  year  17fi(). 

2.  That  for  d«finintj  the  meaning  of  the  terms  "  R^nl 
and  Hiyt^iric.il  Tomba  or  Monumenti,"  the  word  "  Regal " 
shall  Ikj  held  to  comprise  the  following  clas«»es : — 1.  Kings 
and  Queens  r»»irnant  of  Kngland  or  Scotland.  2.  Queens 
Consort.  .'J.  Princess  Consort.  -1.  Parents  of  the  Kings 
and  (Queens  bc^fore-mentioned.  5.  ChiMrpu  and  Grand- 
chililrcn  of  such  Kings  and  Queens.  •>.  Male  Descendants 
of  Kings'  sf)ns  in  an  unbroken  male  line.  7.  Such  other 
descendants  of  Kings  as  have  transmittetl  a  right  of  suc- 
cession to  the  throne.  8.  Such  brothers  and  sifters  of 
Kings  and  (>uoens  Iniforo-mentioned  as  are  not  included 
under  the  i>revioug  heads.  And  the  word '*  Ilistcjrical " 
.shall  be  held  to  include  the  following  classes:  —  1.  All 
Archbishops  of  Canterbury  and  York.  2.  All  I^rd  High 
Chancellors  and  Lonl  Keepers.  ;».  All  T/>rd  High  Trea- 
surers. 4.  All  Chief  Justices.  5.  Eminent  Statesmen 
and  Anibn>'»adors.  G.  Perscms  eminent*  in  Theology, 
»Science,  Literature,  and  Art.  7.  Kminent  Naval  and 
Military  Personages.  8.  Kminent  Merchants.  9.  Other 
persons  of  note. 

The  Committee  explain  that  in  drawing  up  these  reso- 
lutions thoy  had  regard  not  to  the  value  of  the  monu- 
ments as  mere  works  of  art,  but  to  the  importance  of 
the  persons  commemorate<I,  and  the  conservation  of  the 
existing  memorials  of  our  more  illustrious  countrymen 
rather  than  the  mere  gratitioation  of  artistic  taste  or 
antiquarian  ruriosity ;  and  that  in  this  re^petit  the  simple 
gravestone  which  marks  the  interment  of  John  Locke 
was  more  worthy  of  record  than  any  more  sumptuous 
monument  erected  to  a  jK-rson  who  had  left  no  trace 
behind  him  in  the  history  uf  the  country.  But  we  must 
not  be  tempted  to  go  into  details.  The  rej^ort  may  be 
purcha«cil  for  a  very  small  sum.  It  will  be  read  with 
great  interest,  and  does  infinite  credit  to  the  learned  body 
from  which  it  emanates. 

St.  Pai:i/s  Catiikdral. — At  a  meeting  of  the  Execu- 
tive Committee  of  the  St.  Paul's  Completion  Fund,  held 
on  Mondiv  last,  the  following  resfilution  was  moved  by 
Mr.  OldtieJil,  seoon«led  by  Mr.  IJeresford  Hope,  M.P.,  and 
carried  unanimously: — *'That  it  l)e  an  instruction  to  Mr. 
Burges  in  prrparing  his  ])lans  for  the  completion  of  St. 
Paul's  that  he  consider  himself  limited  to  a  style  of  de- 
corative design  for  which  authority  is  to  be  found  either 
in  any  su^h  models  or  drawings  of  Sir  Christopher  Wren 
as  may  be  in   existence,  or,  failing  these,  in  the  best 
works  of  the  Italian  architects  and  artists  of  the  first  half 
of  the  sixteenth  century." — Let  us  express  a  hope  from 
the  foregoing,  that  harmony  has  been  restored  to  the 
committee,  and  our  firm  belief  that  a  thor(»ugh  carrying 
out  of  the  cfimniittee's  re^Kilution  by  the  newly  appointed 
architect,  coupled  with  a  wholly  unprejudiced  examina- 
tion of  Mr.  IJurges's  future  designs,  cannot  but  result  in 
a  scheme  worthy  of  the  great  church  whose  fitting  com- 
pletion all  have  so  much  at  heart. 

The  mention  of  the  name  of  Wren,  of  whom  it  may*in- 
deed  bo  .said — 

"Crcscit  occulto  vclut  arbor  a;vo 
Kama, 

rcmiu'ls  ns  of  a  letter  that  appeared  in  The  Standard  of 
the  Gth  in.'-t.,  in  which  the  writer.  Beta,  proves,  in  direct 
opposition  to  the  general  belief,  from  Wren's  own  words 
in  the  Panntaliay  that  the  great  architect,  whatever  his 
sins  of  commi-sion  in  other  n*spects  may  have  been,  was 
not  •' respi.nsible  for  the  appearance  which  the  south 
gable  of  Westminster  Abbey  presented  before  the  recent 
alterations."  Not  content  with  rei>elling  the  charge,  he 
proc&uls  to  d»mpare  the  recent  works  on  the  sou^h  tran- 
sept with  tho.v  on  the  north  whicU  Wren  aclviiLWy  ^^ 
execute,  with  every  advantage  to  the  laltet,  vVii\al  VVia 


former  are  condemned  in  no  measured  tenna.  Aa  till 
recently  the  Cromwellites  were  generally  believed  to  hare 
been  guilty  of  all  the  sacrilegious  acts  of  their  timea,  hot 
Jiistorical  research  has  disproved  many  of  the  charges 
brought  against  them,  may  we  suggest  to  the  fatnre 
biographer  of  Wren,  that  it  would  be  a  simple  act  of 
justice  to  that  architects  memory  to  compile  a  well- 
authenticated  list  of  all  the  original  worlu  and  reatora- 
tiens  for  which  there  can  be  no  doubt  he  is  responnble. 
A  chapter  devoted  to  this  purpose  would  unquestionably 
dispel  many  popular  illusionB  on  the  subject. 

Flkktwood  IIi»usj«  Stoke  Newixoton. — ^Manr  of 
our  readers  will  be  glad  to  learn  that  Miss  Miller,  of  the 
Library,  Church  Street,  Stoke  Newington,  has  just  pob- 
lishetl  a  beautiful  photograph  of  this  memorable  historical 
building. 


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Anthony  Mundau*s  translation  of  Gerilion  in  EjielandL 
part  ii.  1502,  and  in  Henry  Chettle*$  pamphtei  Kiiid-hatt*a 
Dreame,  1502.     The  ballad  i*  entitled-^ 

--  K  vV\\x^  ^<t\v^\&d^C  Uother  Watkin*a  ale, 


4«'8.IX.  JuaBlo,'72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


497 


The  words  find  mntic  are  given  in  Mr.  CkappeWs  Popular 
Music  of  the  Olden  Time,  i.  136.  See  alto  HazliH*»  Shak- 
speare  Jeet  Books,  iii.  9.  * 

E.  T.  rPatching.)— Kottr  paper  $haU  appear,  probably 
next  week, 

Abhba. —  Vdlpy^B  National  Gallery  of  Painting  and 
Sculpture,  1833,  only  made  Four  Parts,  and  ended  at 
p.  92. 

L.  E.  C.  (Leamington.) —  Critiques  on  the  writings  of 
George  Eliot  will  be  found  in  the  Quarterly  Review,  cviii. 
469-499;   The    Edinburgh    Review,  ex.  224-242;  and 

"N.  &  Q."  4'»»  S.  ii.  51. The  passage  by  Shelley  is  the 

commencevient  of  the  fourth  section  o/' Queen  Mab. 

Rkv.  T.  B.  Ferris  (Guisley,  I.,ecdsV— 7ym/a/e'«  New 
Testament,  1535, 12mo,  according  to  the  late  George  Offor, 
is  a  pirated  edition,  probably  printed  in  Holland* 

W.  H.  P.  (Belfast.)— T'Ac  work  is  entitled,  ** Genuine 
and  Curious  Memoirs  of  the  famous  Capt.  Thurot,  u*ritten 
by  the  Rev.  John  Francis  JJurand,  with  some  of  Mons, 
ThuroVs  Original  letters  to  that  Gentleman,  now  in  Eng- 
land. To  which  is  added,  a  much  more  faithful  and  par- 
iicular  account  than  has  been  hitherto  jmblished,  of  his 
Proceedings  since  his  Sailing  from  the  Coast  of  France, 
Oct.  18,  1759.  Dublin  :  Printtd  for  W.  Whitestone  in 
Skinner  Rowland  S.  Smith,  nt  Mr.  Faulkner  s  iu  Essex 
Street.    1760." 

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NOTICES  OF  THE  PRESS. 

*'  On  the  whole  we  should  say  that  Alban  Butler  aimed  chiefly  at 
edifloUion,  while  the  present  author,  not  leaving  this  out  of  sight,  aims 
likewise  at  information  and  entertainment,  and  if  the  ensuing  voiomea 
resemble  Uie  first,  he  will  have  given  us  a  book  to  be  very  grateftii  Ibr. 

We  are.  therefore,  heartily  glad  of  the  lorthoomlng  livei  of 

the  SainU.'*— OMan/iaa. 

'*Mr.  Baring-Gould's  Lives  of  these  bleesed  persons  are  models  of 
easy,  clear,  and  picturesque  narrative,  and  is  one  that  promises  to  be 
second  in  interest  and  importance  to  few  that  the  Catholic  revival  hae 
brought  fiarth."— C'AurcA  rtmes. 

**  There  is  real  life  and  colour  in  the  Biographies,  as  well  as  what  to 
many  persons  will  lie  of  some  atniiefiuenee.  tv\\  reference  to  authori- 
ties, and  full  infijrmation  as  to  those  incidents  in  their  history  which 
iuive  been  represented  In  painting  or  wnilpture.  or  which  have  led  to 
tlie  conventional  symbols  appropriated  to  them.  It  is  a  book  with  which 
every  ecclesiastical  library  ought  to  be  supplied." 

Literary  Churchmanm 

*'  It  is  a  book  that  should  be  in  every  Christian  household." 

The  lianner. 

**  The  spirit  in  which  It  is  written  cannot  be  better  described  (than  in 
the  author's  own  words.  In  his  preikcc,  he  say*, '  It  would  htfve  been 
unseemly  to  have  carried  prejudice,  imiiertinvnt  to  have  obtruded  sec- 
tariauism,  into  a  work  like  this.  I  have  been  called  to  tread  holy 
ground,  and  kneel  in  the  midnt  of  the  great  company  of  the  bleM«d| 
and  the  only  ilttiag  attitude  of  the  mind  for  kuui  a  place  and  such 
society  is  reverence/  This  intention  has  been  (Hilly  carried  out.  The 
lives  of  Catholic  i^aints  ha^-e  been  narrated  simply  and  unaffectedly  as 
Catholic  authorities  have  recorded  them-"— />i<mm  lieview. 

"The  Lives  are  given  very  AiUy,  and  tlie  legends  are  beautifully 
t()ld  in  language  flu-  more  attractive  than  that  or  painstaking,  matter- 
of-lhct  Alban  Butler."— TAc  TabUt. 

**  We  must  credit  Mr.  Baring-Gould  not  only  with  good  intentions, 
but  also  with  an  excellence  of  execution,  which  ought  to  command  for 
his  work  a  large  sale.  The  language  is  quaint  without  being  crabbed, 
and  its  every  sentence  reads  like  an  extract  feom  some  golden  legend  of 
early  days,  when  as  yet  the  sayings  of  the  Holy  Ones  of  God  were  as 
household  words  in  the  mouths  of  the  FaithAil." 

The  Wetklif  Jiegitier. 

**  Mr.  Gould  is  lighter,  perhaps  more  populari  he  is  less  severe  in  re- 
jecting ancient  Aclt^jLud  thus  he  gives  uv  some  bcaotiAil  stories  of  the 
SainU  which  Alban  Butler  would  have  omitted."— JAc  MorUh. 

"  It  is  a  glorious  collection,  and  the  manner  of  telling  the  legends  is 
dclightftil.^'-ifoA<A/y  rackit. 

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CONTEXTS.— N«.  234. 

NOTES:  — Sir  John  Vanbrugh,  409 -Pieces  fVoiii  Maou- 
coriptu,  SOO-  EarlB  of  Kellie.  601— Alennder  Pope  of  Scot- 
tish Descent.  502  -ThooMUi  Kybbett.  lb.  —  Thomby  1188^ 
808-*'  Lothaire  "  —  Balstc  and  Horace —The  Permanence 
of  Marks  or  Brands  on  Trees  —  The  Nelson  Monument  — 
Sir  John  Dehham's  Death -The  Bitter  Pill  — Sir  John 
Delaval  (?  of  Blith.  Northumberland),  in  16G2— A  Siocu- 
lar  Charity  —  Phonetic  Spellinfr  —  Thomas  Backcvyile, 
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Hospitaller*-  Lepell  Family  — Mappa  Mundi— Night- 
watches  —  Oaks  and  Beeches  —  Porcelnin  Fifure  —  "  Golli- 
Gosperado"  —  "  The  Pawnbroker's  Shop  "  —  Quotations 
wanted  -  Francis  Radcliffo-"  Roy's  Wife  of  Aldi^'alloch  " 

—  Soho  Square  —  Tyddyn  I^co  —  Verb  —  Willougbby 
Family,  50d. 

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610  —  "  The  Curfew  Tolls,"  /6.  —  Luther,  511  —  Hotchpot 
lb,  —  Burley  Family,  512  —  Irish  Provincialisms.  513  — 
Troy  Weight  —  *'  I  know  a  Hawk  from  a  Handsaw  "  — 
**And  leaves  the  World  to  Darkness "  — The  Svmbol  of 
Peace  —  "  Brashsls"  —  Lords  of  Brecon  —  Nicholas  de 
Meauz  —  Faed's  Picture  of  Walter  Scott  and  his  Friends 

—  H'Tsldic  —  Pontiff  —  Buckdcn :  Chck'r  —  **  Sold  "  — 
lolantho  —  Sir  Robert  Aytoun  —  Mr.  Kett  of  Trinity,  Ox- 
ford—"  When  Adam  delved,"  Ac  —  Hard  Labour-"  Carl 
the  Martyr  "  — Cater-Cousins  -  Billycock  Hats  — Garret 
and  Gerald  -  Misi>rcro  Stalls  —  Godnrey  Higgius  —  "  Bal- 
lad of  Burdens."  Ac,  511. 

Notes  on  Books.  Ac. 


fitsiti. 

SIR  JOHX  VANBRUGH. 

The  early  history  of  this  celebrated  dramatist 
and  architect,  bom  in  IGGO  (I  keep  to  the  earlier 
date),  is  confesiiedly  obscure.  Having  noted  se- 
veral dates  and  circumstances,  altering  various 
statements  as  hitherto  received,  and  confirming 
others,  the  record  of  them  in  **  N.  &  Q."  may  be 
serviceable  to  future  writers. 

There  is  no v(r  little  doubt  that  the  Christian  name 
of  Sir  John*8  father  was  Giles,  although  Cunning- 
ham in  The  Builder^  xx.  651,  and  in  the  llaiul' 
bhok  to  LondoHf  urge^  that  a  William  living  in 
LawTence  Pountney  Lane,  was  the  father.  It  has 
been  assumed  that  this  Giles  was  a  merchant  resi- 
dent in  Walbrook,  where  his  father,  also  named 
Giles,  lived  and  died.  The  late  A.  A.  (an  esteemed 
contributor  to  •*  N.  &  Q.")  was  the  first  to  find 
at  Heralds' College  the  statement  that  Giles,  jun., 
*^  died  at  Chester^  circa  annum  1089,  and  was 
there  buried."  (Encyc.  Brit.^th  ediL,  xxi.  615.) 

That  it  was  Giles,  jun.,  who  married  Elizabeth, 
'daughter  of  Sir  Dudley  Carleton,  is  confirmed  by 
the  statement  in  Noble  (College  of  Arms\  that 
Sir  John  bore  his  mother's  shield  quarterea  with 
his  own  coat  of  arms ;  and  this  Giles,  jim.,  is  de- 
scribed also  in  Bloome's  Britannia,  1073,  p.  356, 
as  "  Giles  Vanborough  of  Chester,  Gent." 

Cunningham's  (£ite  (given  in  his  Lives  of 
Paintersj  &c.)of  1715  for  the  death  of  Giles,  jun., 


is  %n  error  caused  by  confusing  him  with  another  . 
person,  which  has  done  further  mischief,  but  I  am 
now  enabled  to  clear  it  up.  He  was  the  first  to  notice 
the  statement  in  Evelyn's  Dion/  of  May  31, 1605, 
that  ^  Mr.  Vanbrugh  was  macte  secretary  to  the 
commission  (for  Greenwich  Hospital)  bv  my  no- 
mination of  him  to  the  lords  " ;  and  he  thereupon 
assumed  that  it  was  John,  to  his  gratification,  and 
it  has  been  adopted  as  true  by  other  writers.  I 
find  however — first,  that  "  Mr.  Vanbrug,  secretary 
to  the  commissioners  of  Greenwich  Hospital  and 
comptroller  of  the  Treasury  Chamber,"  oied  Nov. 
20, 1716  J  and,  secondly,  that  his  name  was  "  Wil- 
liam," not  John. 

This  William  might  probably  have  been  the 
elder  brother,  or  one  of  tne  two  elder  brothers,  of 
Giles,  jun.;  possibl}'  the  ** William  Vanbrug, 
merchant,  son  of  Giles  (sen.),  to  whom,  among 
others,  T.  Fuller  dedicated  his  Piagnh  Si(fht  of 
Pakfiine  in  10i30"  (Noble),  or  even  the  son  of 
that  William,  also  named  ''  William  Vanbrugh, 
gent,  of  Walton  and  Whitehall,"  mentioned  by 
Le  Neve,  Harl.  MS.  5802.  p.  80. 

The  memoir  by  A.  A.  intimates  that  John  was 
for  many  years  in  the  armv,  having  attained  a 
captaincy  before  he  quitted  it.  Mav  we  suppose 
that,  tired  of  play-writing,  which  he  then  took 
up,  or  wishing  to  settle,  his  relative  William,  then 
holding  ofiice  under  government,  as  above  seen, 
obtained  for  him  the  ofiice  of  "  comptroller  of  the 
royal  works,"  an  appointment  which  I  have  found 
a  John  Vanbrugh  held  in  1702,  as  well  as  in  1704; 
and  that  it  is  the  John  in  question  may  be  con- 
sidered decided  by  the  entry  of  "  Sir  John  Van- 
brugh, Comptroller,"  appearing  in  1718,  for  he 
had  been  knighted  at  Greenwich  Sept.  0,  1714 
(or  Sept.  19,  or  even  Dec.  10),  upon  the  accession 
of  George  I.,  who  rcaj)poitited  him  comptroller. 
He  was  not  then  appointed^  as  stated  hj  Dallaway 
in  Walpole*s  Anecdotes.  This  earlier  date  of 
ofiice  is  now  brought  forward  for  tlie  first  time, 
and  is  important  for  elucidating  his  professional 
career.  It  is  confirmed  by  the  following  extract 
(from  DTsraeli's  Curionties  of  LiieraturCf  the 
"  Secret  History  of  the  Building  of  Blenheim  ") 
which  has  not  been  hitherto  noticed.    Vanbrugh 

"  represents  himself  as  being  comptroller  of  Her  Majesty*s 
works,  and  as  such  was  appointed  [this  would  have  been 
in  17051  to  prepare  a  moaci,  which  model  of  Blenheim 
Honse  Her  Majesty  kept  in  her  palace,  and  gave  her  com- 
mands to  issue  money  according  to  the  direction  of  Mr. 
Travers,  the  qaeen*s  snrvevor-ffenoral ;  that  the  lord 
treasnrer  appointed 'Iler  Majesty  s  own  officers  to  super- 
vise these  works,"  &c. 

In  the  first  list  of  directors  or  standing  com- 
mittee at  Greenwich  Hospital,  appointed  under 
tibe  commission  of  Queen  Anne,  dated  July  21, 
1703,  occurs  a  **  John  Vanburgh,  esq.,"  who  may 
have  been  the  John  in  question,  the  same  relative 
being  secretary  to  the  commission  as  above  shown. 

As  to  Vanbrugh's   professlouAl  ^\«»Sass^  V:^. 


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[4iks.IX.  JuacxSS,7J 


any)  in  architecture  there  is  as  yet  no  definite  in- 
formation found.  It  is  seldom  referred  to  by 
writers,  but  it  is  the  portion  of   his  history  to 


was  called  upon  bj  the  queen  to  provide  a  deagn 
for  Blenheim,  as  much  for  this  reaaon  aa  that  thm 
was  no  one  else  of  pontion  to  make  it  in  the 


which  I  have  devoted  more  attention.  The  fol-  ;  office  of  her  works,  but  himself  and  Sir  G.  Wren, 
lowing  roninrks  may  help  to  a  solution  of  the  ;  then  seventy-three  years  of  age  and  busily  en- 
doubtA.  I  have  shown  above,  that  he  held  office  traged.  The  only  other  person  qualified  (for  Gibbe 
in  the  Board  of  Works  as  early  as  1702  (the  date  Jiad  not  appeared)  was  Xicholaa  Hawksnoore,  a 
of  his  appointment  I  hope  vet  to  discover).  In  a  '  favourite  pupil  and  clerk  of  Sir  C.  Wren's ;  be 
letter  dated  July,  1708,  toliis  friend  Tonson,  then  was  also  attached  to  the  Board  of  Works  as  clerk 
at  Amsterdam,  he  asks  him  to  8end  '<  a  Palladio  of  the  works  at  Kensington  Palace,  and  became 
in  French,  with  the  plans  of  houses  in  it."  Van-  secretary  to  the  board  in  later  years.  He  certainly 
brugli's  i\n*t  executed  work  appears  to  have  been    acted  as  assistant  surveyor  to  Vanbrugh  at  Blen- 


considerfd  a  very  satiMactory  perfonnanoo.     A     and  talented  designer,  as  his  own  works  show,  and 

difficulty  now  arises  as  to  which  was  his  next  ■  capable  of  giving  Vanbrugh  all  the  assistance  ho 

work — (Jostle  Howard  or  Blenheim.     The  former  !  mi^'4it  require. 

any  drawings  by  Vanbrugh 
408).  Are  there  anv  known 
)f  his  works?  'W.  P. 

lege  is  attributed  to  Lord  Carlisle's  employment  of 


him.  But  I  am  not  quite  satisfiod  as  to  the  cor- 
rectness of  po  early  a  diite  for  the  couimencoment 
of  Castle  Howard.  Campbell,  in  his  VitruviiM 
Britauuinut  (yo\,  i.)  published  about  1717,  states 


PIECES  FROM  MANUSCRIPTS.    No.  VHI. 

Here  are  three  short  poems  from  a  Cotton  M3., 
of  which  the  second  is  good  fun,  and  the  third  a 


that  it  was  **  built  anno  1714  "  j  and  the  insorip-  |  half-comical  lament  over  this  idle  business  Lotc  : 
tion  on  the  obelisk  in  the  jwrk,  rf'C<irdiug  the  ini-  ' 


provenicnts  made  by  the  earl,  states  (as  given  in 
two  books)  that  the  earl  "began  tJiese  works  in 
the  year  mdccxti."  I  have,  however,  verv  lately 
met  witli  a  passage  in  one  of  Vanbrugli's  letters, 
datt'd  July,  170^5,  in  which  he  says  that  "two 
hundred  men  were  at  work  at  Carlisle,"'  and  a 
new  quarry  was  found.  Could  the  works  have 
been  delayed  from  1702  or  170*5  until  1712. 

Can  any  of  j^our  readers  say  whetlier  Lord  Car- 
lisle was  a  member  with  Vanbrugh  of  the  Kit- 
Kat  Club  P  This  might  account  for  an  early  friend- 
ship, which  continued  as  late  as  after  the  death  of 
the  Duke  of  Marlborough  (1722),  when  Sir  John 
was  travelling  in  England  with  the  Ladies  Howard, 
and  was  refused  admittance  to  Blonhfini. 

What  he  said  of  himself  as  comptroller  in  de- 
signing Blenheim  is  given  above.  1  his  was  begun 
in  1705  or  170(^,  and  "  built,"  states  Campbell,  . 
**anno  1715."  Cunningham  says  it  was  Sir  John's  | 
*'  last  work " !  yet  it  was  not  fit  to  rec«*ive  the 
dnko  until  about  August,  1710.  Then  comes 
King's  Weston,  Gloucestershire,  "  finished  1713  "; 
and  to  his  other  and  later  works  and  his  appoint- 
ments I  need  not  refer,  for  I  have  already  taken 
up  much  space.  Those  in  the  Heralds*  College 
are  perhaps  correctly  explained  in  A.  A.'s  memoir 
of  Vanbrugh.  They  are  wrongly  stated  by  Cun- 
ningham. 

The  suggestion  I  have  to  offer  is  this:  that 
when  appointed  comptroller,  he  assumed  to  be  an  i 
architect  hv  virtue  of  his  office;  and  in  170''>  he 


(fill  the  cup,  rniLLiP.) 

[Cotton  MS.  Vf*panaitf  A  xxv.,  leaf  AT."] 

ffyll  •  the  ciippe,  phvlyppe,  and  let  vb  drvnke  a  drame  f 
ons  or  twyse  abowte  the  bowse,  and  leave  where  ve 

I  dn-nke  to  vow,  swete  harte,  soo  mutche  as  here  is  in, 

de^yeringt^  yo^  to  followe  me,  and  doo  as  I  bcgyn  ; 

And  yf  vow  will  not  pledge, 

vow  nhall  bore  the  blame  ; 

I  (Irynke  to  y«"  witA  all  my  harte, 

yf  y'ow  will  pledge  mc  the  Mime. 

(wilful  wives). 

[Cotton  ^fS.  T'cj/xuiaw,  A  xxr.,  tsaflAd,  back.'} 

A  Pallet. 

The  man  j-s  blent  that  lyverfin  rest, 
And  so  can  kw|HS  hx-m  ^tyllc ; 
and  he  in  A-coru^te',  that  was  the  first 
that  give  hys  wyffher  wyll. 

What  paine  and  f^reff,  wrthout  relieflT, 
shall  we  pore  men  aoAtavne, 
yff  every  ^yle  L«Jill]  shall  have  her  wjle^ 
and  oy«V  vs  shall  reigne  ? 

Then  all  our  wyvcs,  daring  ther  lyvea^ 
wyll  loke  to  do*  the  same, 
and  l>eare  in  hand  yt  y»  As  lande 
that  gocth  not  from  the  name. 

There  ys  no  man  whose  wysdome  canne 
Keforme  A  wylfuU  wyff, 
but  oncly  god,  who  maide  the  rod 
for  our  vnUirj^y  lyffe. 


*  Every  final  11  is  crossed  as  if  for  c, 

t  Or"*draine,*' 


4*8.IX.  Juhe22,*72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


501 


Let  ys  therefor  crye  owt  and  rore, 
and  make  to  god  reqaeit, 
that  he  redresse  this  wilAilneSy 
and  set  o«r  harth  at  rest. 

Wherefor,  good  wyves,  amend  yonre  lyves, 
and  we  wyll  do  the  same, 
and  kepe  not  style  that  nonghtye  wyle 
that  haith  so  eTell  A  name. 

ffinis. 

(LOVE,  THIS  IDLE  BUSINESS). 
{_Cotton  MS.  Vespasian,  A  xxv.,  leaf  149.] 

A  Ballyt. 

A  horsse  chnyng  on  the  brydle 
in  the  stable  ys  but  Idle, 
So  a  lover  not  well  proving 
is  but  Idle  in  hys  loving, 
oft  complaning,  smale  redressing, 
much  disdaning,  smale  realesing, 
much  ensnyng,  smale  obtayning, 
much  vneasse  and  lytle  ganing, 
changing  of  harti's  with  sab[tjlenee, 
ys  love,  this  Idle  busyncs. 

Cnliered  wordis  for  outward  feaning, 
croked  sygnes  for  outwardes  craving, 
inwarde  mede  and  outwarde  sorcnre, 
glad  to  night  and  made  to  morowe, 
now  in  casse  for  to  be  eassed, 
now  content  and  now  displeased, 
owtward  loy  ant/ outward  boasting, 
litle  worthe  and  mykle  costing, 
thus  fynding  of  newfanglenes 
ys  love,  this  Idle  bu^ynes. 

Much  begune  and  lytle  endid, 
much  amisse  and  litle  mended, 
much  devised,  much  invented, 
muche  dbpised,  nought  contented, 
much  complaning  of  hartes  distresse, 
muche  thinge  wrong,  and  no  redresse, 
moche  devising,  all  for  winning, 
as  nie  the  end  as  the  beginninge, 
doting  of  braine  with  dessines, 
ys  love,  this  Idle  bussines. 

Lytle  slening,  mykle  watching, 

mykle  Inking,  lytle  catching, 

often  wyshing,  smale  thingej  having, 

often  spending,  smale  tbingcj  saving; 

lauglie  love,  lowre  love,  all  one  matter ; 

lyke  the  nature  of  the  water. 

alwaves  ruwning,  never  seasing, 

yet  ^e  rever  sty  11  incresinge,  , 

so  dothe  the  fole  never  seasse 

in  love,  this  Idle  busines. 

J,  wAich  do  this  love  discover, 
am  as  Idle  as  the  lover, 
for  my  laboure  nothing  getting, 
nor  to  the  lover  no  profiting, 
to  my  harte  no  iov  nor  eaving, 
nor  to  other  nothing  pleasing, 
vnto  me  *  peine  in  Me  writing, 
paine  to  other  in  resyting ; 
thus  my  labore  may  be  thankelee 
for  my  Idle  besynes. 
ffinis. 

F.  J.  FUBHITALL. 


•  MS.  my. 


EARLS  OF  KELUE. 

Thomas,  ninth  Earl  of  Kellie,  and  his  brother 
Methven,  the  tenth  lord,  who  survived  the  former 
but  a  short  time,  were  the  only  existing  male 
descendants  of  the  first  peer  of  that  name.  He 
was  a  cadet  of  the  old  family  of  Erskine,  originally 
barons ;  but  who,  in  the  reign  of  Robert  III.,  had 
succeeded  as  heirs  of  line  to  the  very  old  earldom 
of  Mar,  which  had  existed  prior  to  the  time  of 
Malcolm  Canmore.  Through  Elyne  de  Mar,  the 
daughter  of  Earl  Gratney  and  his  countess,  the 
sister  of  Robert  de  Bruce,  the  Erskines  became 
the  heirs  of  line ;  and  as  all  the  old  earldoms  were 
inherited  by  heirs  female,  Sir  Robert  Erskine — 
a  baron  in  his  own  ri^ht,  jure  Bangmms — ulti- 
mately had  the  sole  right  to  the  honours  and 
heritages  of  the  De  Mars. 

After  being  deprived  of  their  rights  for  upwards 
of  a  century  by  tne  tyranny  and  oppression  of  the 
first  ^y%  Jameses,  the  heir  of  Mar  was  restored  by 
Queen  Mary  and  her  Parliament  in  1565;  and, 
during  the  minority  of  her  son,  was  a  riiort  time 
Regent  of  Scotland.  Of  this  high-bom  nobleman 
was  descended  Thomas  Erskine,  who  had  the  good 
fortune  to  find  favour  with  James  VL ;  and  who, 
having  assisted  at  the  wholesale  slaughter  of  the 
elder  branches  of  the  Gowrie  family;  received  a 
large  share  of  their  vast  estate,  and  was  subse- 
quently created  Viscount  of  Fenton  and  Baron 
Dirleton — being  the  name  of  estates  belonging  to 
the  Gowries,  and  which  had  been  inherited  by 
them  in  right  of  Janet  Halyburton,  Baroness  of 
Dirleton  in  her  own  right.  This  was  the  first 
viscounty  created  in  Scotland.  The  patent  is 
dated  ftlarch  18,  1606.  Upon  March  12,  1610, 
the  viscount  was  elevated  to  the  earldom  of  Kellie 
by  patent  to  him  and  the  heirs  male  of  his  body, 
whom  failing,  to  his  heirs  male  bearing  the  name 
and  arms  of  Erskine. 

The  large  estate  inherited  by  their  male  issue  in 
course  of  time  became  very  much  impaired ;  and 
although  at  one  period  apparently  fiourishing, 
the  family  gradually  disappeared  off  the  face  of 
the  earth,  and  at  last  became  reduced  to  two 
noblemen  —  the  last  of  the  direct  line.  Earl 
Thomas  was  much  esteemed  by  his  friends — an 
excellent  landlord,  but  of  <]^uiet  habits.  There  is 
a  private  print  of  his  lordship  in  his  robes,  which, 
judging  from  the  countenance,  indicates  great 
benevolence..  He  was  then,  probably,  about  seventy. 
Both  Earl  Thomas  and  his  invalid  brother,  Earl 
Methven,  lamented  the  probable  extinction  of  the 
family  honours,  although  the  extensive  remainder 
to  heirs  male  indicated  the  posribility  of  a  revival. 

This  was  a  frequent  subject  of^  conversation 
amon^t  the  family  circle  and  friends  of  their 
lordships.  It  was  believed  that  the  chief  of  tiie 
Erskines,  the  Earl  of  Mar,  might  establish  his 
tight ;  but  then  it  was  thought  unlikely  thai 
descendant  of  a  nobl«cEA3^  ^1  ^^  ^nosa^.  ^ 


502 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


lA^  8.  IZ.  JQSIB  22.  7S. 


b't]i  T  MiJcolm  Canmore  woulil  bother  himself 
al^'ur  fi  poerft<;i>  gmnted  by  King  James,  "  the 
sapi^n:  and  i^axt." 

^  in^  curious  evidence  as  to  the  fear  of  the 
oarl  h.v-5  bet-n  pres*»rved.  Ilia  friend,  Viacount 
Arbntiimt,  deponetl  in  the  House  of  Lords  that 
i'larl  T:Kiiiin3  could  not  beli»;ve  that  Lord  Mar 
•'WT'u-I  niftke  a  claim,"  hi.s  title  l)eing:  so  much 
in'-ro  ?.nt.'ient  than  his  own.  Another  friend, 
Lr>rl  Cflvillo  of  Culn>s,  spoke  poHtively  to  the 
anxl.ty  of  Vliivl  Thoma.^  on  the  subject  of  his 
title.  .::'l  his  apprehrn*ion  that  the  antiquity 
of  th'-  Mar  earld«»m  woulii  be  an  insuperable 
obj*-c-:-  M  tt»  Tioni  Mur's  puttin-r  himself  to  any 
erp'  -I  ■-:  iji  obtaininp  a  pf»era;ri'  i^f  little  compara- 
tive i:v.p  iftance  to  him-'elt.* 

li.^-  :\-'d  tu  makf^  iv\  ctlnrt  to  preserve  the  dig- 
nity, rid  to  tempt  the  I'-orl  of  Mar  to  claim  it, 
Eiiil  Jli.tmas  had  remur-e  to  this  device,  lie 
exvcilv'.l  an  <»ntail  of  Li**  land-'  and  barony  of 
C'anJ  .'  -jp'n  a  certain  seni.'s  of  heirs,  not  neces- 
.snry  \\  r .»  to  onuuuTatr ;  but  as  tlipn*  i*emain«=*d  a 
pniHll  T.icrmentof  the  Innds  and  earldom  of  Kellie, 
h':'  .-<  !:!'^'l  it  upon  such  h«?ir  male  ai»  would  be 
rntit'.-d  to  succeed  to  the  earldom  of  Kellie,  and 
f  reii'  I  p.  trust  to  carrv  this  settlement  into  effect. 
TJii«  '  tate  conMSted  of  the  ruins  of  Kellie  Castle 
in  Fif  -hire,  and  the  lands  ^urroundinp  it.  The 
ri'ntal  i-^  supposed  to  have  been  somewhere  be- 
tween tive  or  six  hundred  a-vear. 

'ii:\-  -aved  tin*  earldom.  'The  late  PZarl  of  Mar, 
un'rl"  r"  the  present  earl,  who  is  his  sister's  son, 
wp.?  ?.  v-ry  prudent  man  as  regarded  money  mat- 
ter.^,  27  •  waited  until  the  rents  in  the  hands  of  the 
K'-lli-  riii'tees  had  accumulated  to  a  sutlicient  sum, 
and  !•  ••::  came  forward,  claimed  the  Kellio  title, 
and.  ...■  /  a  long  and  expensive  investigation,  was 
Tf.'C'.r^''-^'\  bv  the  House  of  Lords  as  the  eleventh 
Earl  :  Kellie.  I'pon  his  death,  the  honours  of 
Mar  111.1  Kellie  separated.  The  ancient  earldom 
of'M.r,  which  came  to  the  Erskines  through 
femaKr,  passed  to  the  son  of  his  lordship's  sister, 
Lndy  Juiieta  or  .lannet  Goodeve;  and  the  junior 
and  C(  iPTiMratively  recent  earldom  of  Kellie,  to  his 
collit'.  '■;'!  h«'ir  male,  who  thereupon  became  twelfth 
earl  -^f  that  name.  lie  died  last  autumn,  and  was 
8ucf*'''/r;'if'd  bv  his  eldest  son,  now  the  thirteenth 
earl  of  ICellie  and  X'iscount  of  Fenton.         J.  M. 


1 725  Alexander  Pope,  eon  of  the  minxBter  of  Loth, 
Suthcrlandsfaire,  took  the  degree  of  A.M.  at 
Kinj;*8  College,  Aberdeen.  In  1733,  on  the  com- 
pletion of  his  university  course,  he  rode  from 
Caithness  to  Twickenham  to  visit  his  rektive  and 
namesake,  Alexander  Pope  the  poet^  He  received 
from  his  relative  a  copy  of  the  aubecription  edi- 
tion of  his  0(hfS8ey  in  five  quarto  volumes.  In 
1  7''j4  Mr.  Pope  became  a  licentiate  of  the  Scottish 
church,  and  was  in  the  same  year  ordained  min- 
ister of  Reay,  in  the  county  of  Caithness.  A  man 
of  vigorous  frame,  he  restrained  by  phy.sical  power 
the  wayward  tendencies  of  his  flock.  By  the  use 
of  his  walking-stick  he  compelled  the  indifferent 
to  attend  ordinances.  He  was  a  useful  and  ac- 
ceptable preacher  as  well  as  an  intelligent  writer 
on  local  antiquities.  He  died  in  March  1762. 
{Fusd,  iii.  ;j07.)  His  father,  Mr.  Hector  Paip, 
was  admitted  to  the  parish  of  Loth  in  16S2,  and 
died  January  15,  1710.  This  reverend  gentle- 
man wa^  descended  from  Mr.  William  Paip, 
Pape,  Paipe,  or  Papp,  successively  minister  of 
l)ovnoc*h  and  Nigg,  being  settled  in  the  former 
paris-h  in  l-'iAS.  He  was  a  native  of  Ross-shire, 
and  studied  at  the  University  of  St,  Andrews. 
He  was  not  adverse  to  episcopacy,  and  accepted 
from  the  Cieneral  Assembly  of  l(i(fe  the  office  of 
perpetual  moderator  of  his  presbytery.  He  was 
severely  wounded  in  endeavouring  to  quell  a  riot 
in  1007,  on  which  occasion  his  brother,  the  sheriff- 
clerk  of  the  county,  was  killed.  (Fakif  iii.  327.) 
The  name  of  Pope  or  Pape  is  now  extremely 
rare  in  North  Britain ;  I  know  one  family  bear- 
ing it.  It  is  of  Scandinavian  origin,  aiid  pro- 
bably had  reference  to  the  patriarchal  character 
of  its  original  possessor.  That  Pope  the  poet, 
descended  from  a  long  line  of  Presbvterian  m mis- 
ters, should  have  embraced  the  faith  of  the  Pope 
of  Pome,  is  sufficiently  singular.  If  his  family 
designation  suggested  brotherhood,  then  let  none 
ask  what's  in  a  name  'r  CnARLEa  Rogers. 

Snowduuu  Villa,  Lewijhrim. 


ALFA'  VNDKR   POPK  OF  SCOTTISH   DESCENT. 

Thni  remarkable  work.  Dr.  H.  Scott's  Fa»ii 
Ert'!t'v\'iP  Scf^ficonur,  has  added  one  of  the  most 
illustrious  of  English  poets  to  the  roll  of  distin- 
guish I'd  persons  who  have  sprung  from  a  Scottish 
ancestry.  The  reverend  author  of  the  Ffuti  has 
shown  that  the  progenitors  of  the  author  of  the 
Dundad  hailed   from  a  northern  latitude.     In 

•  "  Kellie  Peerage,*'  Minutes  o/  Evidence,  Augiut  31, 

i83:>,  pp.  no-70. 


THOMAS  KYBBETT. 

Whilst  I  was  at  Heidelberg  last  autumn,  I  met 
with  the  following  verses,  which  occur  in  a 
MS.  about  three  hundred  years  old  ('^EuKlische, 
No.  4o(>,'')  in  the  public  library.  Its  interest 
perhaps  is  derived  solely  from  its  connection  with 
the  name  of  Frederic,  the  well-known  Count 
Palatine  of  the  Rhine.  I  should  be  glad  to  be 
told  if  any  of  your  readers  know  anything  about 
the  author,  Thomas  Kvbbett  F  The  yersea  occupy 
four  pages  of  the  original  MS.,  as  marked  in  my 
transcript.  J.  A.  Giles. 

Itector%',  Sutton,  Surrev. 

**  To  the  High  and  Mighty  Prince  Frederick  the  6nl, 
by  the  grace  of  God  Counte'  Palatine  of  Rheyn. 
I)uke  of  Bavaria,  Elector  and  Archserver  of  the  saend 
Koman  Empire,  and  in  vacancy  of  the  fame  Tlear 


4«»S.  1X.JUIIE22/72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


603 


therof:  Tbo.  Kjbbett  Mcrifiieth  this  new  bonw 
Babe  of  his  indostry,  wishing  a  place  of  lesse  sorrowe 
and  iB^Qrc  happines  nnto  your  princely  selfe  and 
Progeny. 

"  Great  pa'tron  of  my  muse,  Lord  of  my  verse, 
That  late  might  vaunt  on  a  most  royall  name, 
Now  mourning  sings,  as  if  a  saUe  herse 

Procur'd  her  comon  gi^efe,  to  penn  this  ttmine ; 
As  if  times  greatest  BeU  thus  sad  did  toule, 
For  the  departed  good  of  some  good  soole. 

**  Time  honor'd  prince,  to  thee  I  sacrifise 

The  sigbes  and  groanes  of  this  unhappy  time ; 
The  Ranging  passions  that  doe  tirannise 

Over  the  ad  Horison  of  this  Clime ; 
Whose  pensive  writers  doe  his  artes  prefere, 
That  sleepes  within  bis  honor'd  sepulcher. 

**  In  this  sad  spectackle  behold  his  fate. 

That  lyving,  joy'd  your  ever  princely  sight ; 
Whose  Royall  virtues  eqnall  with  his  Rate, 

In  this  darke  age,  shinde  like  a  Chrisolite ; 
That  when  bis  name  soundes  in  your  princely  earss. 
Your  eiee,  like  mine,  male  crowne  your  wordes  in 
teares. 

"  FF15I8." 


M 


for  the  press,  or  the  printer  who  set  it  up,  have 
made  divers  mistakes  therein,  some  of  which 
seem  to  be  of  no  small ''  pith  and  moment''  There 
is  a  memorandum  at  the  end  in  this  form,  "  Irro- 
tulatum  per  RobMum  Kuxsojm  Auditorem." 
I  have  vainly  seardied  for  a  copy  of  this  document 
on  the  dose  roll. 

Thoreeby  had  another  manuscript^  which  is 
duly  set  down  in  Ids  cataloffue,  that  1  have  long 
been  anxious  to^see.    It  is  thus  described  there— 

ManutcHpti  in  Octavo,  2l8.~*«The  History  of  the 
Civil  War  from  1640  to  1646,  wherein  are  some  things 
which  ere  omitted  in  printed  Authors,  and  others  more 
particularly  described;  as  the  Taking  of  Leedes  1648. 
It  seems  to  have  been  the  property  of  the  noted  Com. 
Bee,  who  printed  the  Decern  Seripiares,  Ac** 

Edward  Peacock. 

Bottesford  Manor,  Brigg.     * 


"  '  What  doe  you  lacke  ? '  the  nimble  tradesman  crieii, 

'  A  ^opd  tand  glove,  that  can  indure  all  weather.'       I 

*  Xoe,  noe !  *  the  curious  passenger  replies,  ! 

*  But  princely  glove?,  ncwe  made  ofstretching  leather  :*  ! 

Which,  when  the  tradesman  sees  his  want  of  wares, 

He  saies,  ^  I  am  sorry  for,'  and  melts  in  teares. 

*'  Oh  I  could  my  penn  with  logick  but  relate 
Greife,  in  her  kind  and  her  true  difference. 
Or  with  Geometrye  proportionate 

To  every  mournefull  soule  her  large  expence, 
Ffor  Henry's  death,  when  were  I  in  all  partes 
A  perfect  maister  of  these  liberall  artes." 

*'  But  hcere  He  fell  the  pillcrs  of  my  rest, 

Ilerculian  like,  whiUt  1  my  sobbes  confine, 
Greife,  keep  your  lodging  chamber  iu  my  breast. 

In  sad  condolement  of  this  priacely  vine : 
Whose  pleasing  vintage  and  delightsome  happ 
Is  gone  and  dead,  with  tempestcs  of  mishapp. 

*'  And  now  to  the  great  monarch  doe  I  sonnde. 

Whose  wounds  arc  yet  greene,  and  inraged  frett. 
Oh  I  male  no  sudden  carthouake  sliake  this  ground. 

Whereon  thy  kingly  chaire  of  state  is  sett : 
And  maie  those  princely  clusters  of  that  vine 
Fflorishe,  and  kisse  the  Sunnc  a  longer  time.* 


THORESBY  MSS. 

In  the  last  edition  of  The  Monadkinif  vol.  i. 
p.  400,  there  may  be  seen  a — 

"  Lease  of  Lands  in  Lincolnshire  granted  bv  the  Abbat 
and  Convent  of  Peterborough  to  Sir  WUliam  Tyr- 
whit." 

• 

The  original  is  said  to  have  been  "in  the  hands 
of  Ralnh  Thoresby  of  Leedes  in  Yorkshirei  Esq.," 
but  I  nnd  no  mention  of  it  in  the  cataloffue  of 
his  collections  at  the  end  of  Dr.  Whitaker  s  edi- 
tion of  the  Ducatm  LeodienM,  If  any  of  your 
correspondents  can  tell  me  where  this  document 
now  is,  I  shall  be  grateful,  for  I  have  very  strong 
reasons  for  thinking  that  the  person  who  copied  it 


'<  LOTHAIRE.** — Apropos  of  Disraeli's  late  work, 
vide  Luhairey  a  romance,  by  Robert  Gilmour,  in 
Quarterly  list  of  new  publications  appended  to  the 
Isdinhurgh  Heview,  February  1815.        J.  S.  De. 

Balzac  akb  Hoeace. — The  2>a%  Telegraph  of 

May  21  contains  an  able  article  on  the  unmanly 

sports  practised  at  Hurlingham,  Shepherd's  Bush, 

&C.,  in  which  this  passage  occnrs :  — 

"  The  weather  though  cold  was  clear,  and  Londoners 
by  the  dozen  gave  practical  evidence  that  Balzac  was 
right  when  he  made  the  typical  Englishman  exclaim : 
*  The  day  is  fine,  let  us  go  out  and  kill  something.'  From 
eveiy  comer  of  these  islands  came  the  hapless  '  Unc 
rocks,'  the  starlings  and  sparrows,  torn  too  often  from 
their  nests,  which  supply  the  denizens  of  this  vast  and 
heartless  metropolis  with  materials  for  eninpng  a  holiday 
by  the  slaughter  of  harmless  animal  life. ' 

I  think  it  is  evident  that  Balzac  had  the  fol- 
lowing sentence  from  Horace  {Ep,^  lib.  i.  vi.  50) 
in  view  when  describing  the  "typical  English- 
man ■*  of  his  time : — 

**  lucet,  eamus 
Quo  ducit  gala :  piscemur,  venemnr.'* 

On  reading  the  above,  one  is  inclined  to  inquire 
what  influence  the  boasted  civilisation  of  modem 
times  has  exerpised  in  directing  our  amusements, 
and  how  far  we  excel  the  Koman  gentleman  in 
tiiis  respect  P  Think  with  what  feelings  a  Roman 
lady  would  witness  the  slaughter  of  some  scores 
of  harmless  birds,  after  reading  Virgirs  account 
{Qeor,y  iv.  511)  of  the  nest  of  the  niffhtingale  that 
some  hard-hearted  swain  had  robbed  of  its  young, 
still  callow :  — 

"  Qualis  populea  mocrens  Philomela  sub  umbra 
Amissos  qneritur  fetus,  quosdurus  arator 
Observans  nido  implumes  detraxit ;  at  ilia 
Flet  noctem,  ramoqne  sedens  miserabile  carmen 
Integral,  et  mcestis  late  loca  quesdbus  implet 
Nulla  Venus,  non  ulli  animum  flezere  hymenKi.** 

The  bird  has  ever  been  the  emblem  of  tend^^ 
pess  and  pity,  and  sa  swrVl  >a»&  «Xv8{«^  *^^  ^s^[^»b- 


JU4 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[l<k8.1X.Ju>K»,7S. 


TliAiiks  to  tho  sblo  Hdvocufv  of  tlie  Aii?y  Tth- 
graph  ill  pleadiii)|[  the  cause'of  llio  "blue  rock," 
the  deeceniiHiit  of  that  bird  that  brought  the  olive 
brauch  hack  to  the  Eirk;  nf  tbc  "starliog,"  that 
mftile  haureoce  Sterno  exclHim  when  he  faw  one 
conlined  in  a  little  mrp,  "  God  hpln  tbee !  hut  I 
will  let  thee  out,  cofit  what  it  will";  and  the 


Thb  rfaMASEXCE  OF  Mafkr  or  IIraxrh  oh 
Treks.— In  recent  );u'*l<>a  to  ShiTwuod  J'orcst, 
e.g.  Spncer  T.  Hall's  Jorrrfo'n  Ofirimj,  1841; 
James  Carter's  Viiit  to  Shtiicixul  fin-M,  18U0 — 
followinif  Uajor  llooke,  who,  about  cifibtj  Tears 
•go,  published  Ikfii'jitiiM*  and  Skcti-ken  of  Sa- 
markablr  0«k>  in  .Shrnrwid—it  is  stated  tlint  on 
cutting  down,  in  178fl  and  1701,  !>onie  old  trees 
in  the  hajB  oF  Itirkland  and  Itilhnirb,  a  few  niilea 
from  Jlaiiflield,  Notte,  there  were  found  letters 
and  ligureH  df  crowns  cut  or  branded  inude  tite 
trunks.  One  tree  had  the  letters  "  I,  I!.''  about  a 
foot  from  the  outside,  and  llio  same  distance  from 
the  c  ... 

crown,  ak'Ut  three  feet  three  inches  from  the 
centre  and  uiiie  inc-hi's  from  the  surface ;  and 
were  con^idl'r^-d  by  tlie  same  authority  to  have 
been  done  in  the  rvign  of  William  and  Mary. 
Another  contained  the  letter  "I,,''  with  a  aomc- 
whnt  distorted  impression  of  a  radiated  crown, 
aucli  asKintf  John  is  repri'Fcutiil  as  wearing  in 
old  printd.  These  were  ei(.'hteen  inches  from  the 
outside  of  the  in-e,  and  a  little  over  a  foiit  from 
the  centre,  and  believed  h_v  Ifnoko  to  have  been 
branded  or  cut  upon  the  oiitsidc  uf  the  tree  dur- 
ing tho  reign  oi  King  John.  Hall  saje,  of  the 
famous  ''Major  Oak,"  that  — 
"  Kinn  John  had  tmilgcd  il9  (rank  wllli  Iii4  •■vn  initiali 
btncath  the  tif.'ureof  a  crown,  bul  itu-ai  t<<g  fnimlta 
retain  the  mark,  m  mani/  nf  Hi  gmrltJ  iJil  iitighbouri  to 
tfie  prtttnt  dtiy  hart  dime  Iheim." 

Had  he  any  authority  for  thiM  awertiim  ?  Have 
other  niarkri  inside  trees  been  observ>-d  elsewhere, 
or  siucc  Major  llooke'«  timp  ?  I'sually,  according 
til  mv  own  iibsurvation,  initials  cut  only  through 
the  Dark  or  external  rind  become  outwardlv  nil 
but  obliterated  in  from  ten  to  twenty  years'  time, 
according  tn  the  nature  of  the  tree  and  the 
rapidity  of  ilji  growth, 

Fr-ixcis  J.  Leaciiiiax,  M.A. 

Thk  Nklsom  SriJsmraT.—Thi' frontispiece  to 
the  first  volume  of  Thelieau  Mmiile,  nf  J-iternrij  and 
Faduottiiblr  Motiiiziiii;  published  in  IflXi-",  is  a 
design  fiir  a  monument  to  Lord  Xuls'in.  It  was 
the  competilive  elFurt  of  a  Mr:  llullmk  for  the 
town  of  Liverpool.  The  base  of  this  monument 
h  nearly  identical  with. .tho  four  grauUt:  '\KUt  of 


Sir  Edwin  Landseer's  liona  in  Trafalgar  Squiie, 
There,  however,  the  plagiarism  (which  appeum  to 
the  uninitiated  eye  to  fa«  complete)  almoat  endi; 
for  the  superstructure  consiata  of  a  vulgar  aaami- 
blage  of  figure-heads,  half-nude  sailors,  elephants, 
and  the  eternal  figure  of  Fame  with  her  wreatha 
at  arm's  length ;  only  it  is  ctt>irned  with  a  statue 
of  the  commemorated  hero  in  nearly  the  nme 
attitude  (though  not  at  so  great  an  altitude)  n 
the  London  Lord  Nelson.  SaESRABM. 

SiK  Joirs  Dexhau's  De.vth, — The  biograpbiea 
and  other  notices  that  I  have  looked  into  gira 


begin  the  year  on  March  25,  but  not  otherwua. 
On  March  21,  1008-0,  Pepys  writ*a ; — 
10  tcllinie  the  ita 

...  ^ _ -...'■!  plai-e  or  9nrv* 

Worki,  who  it  w«n>  ia  Ulely  dead." 

If,  then,  Denham  died  not  in  that  month,  but  in 
the  preceding  March  of  1067-8,  we  hare  tn  believe 
three  or  four  strange  things.  Pint,  that  in  that 
ago  of  greed  and  self-seeking,  tho  ofliee  nf  Sur- 
veyor of  the  King's  Works  was  unfitled  fur  a  year. 
Secondlv,  that  neither  the  death  of  Sir  John,  a 
high  oriicial  and  a  noted  poet,  nor  his  burial  in 
Westminster  Abbey,  were  known  to  Pepys  for  a 
full  twelvemonth:  that  is,  not  till  the  return  of 
the  came  month  in  1000.  And,  kstly.  that  Pepys, 
writing  nf  BO  known  a  person,  now  a  year  ago 
dead  and  buried,  should  speak  of  him — not  as 
lately  dead,  though  that  would  be  atranKe  enough, 
but  as  one  "  who  it  seems  is  lately  dea£" 

'B.  Nicnouox. 

Tbe  Bitter  Pill. — I  aupposc  moat  peiaoot 
associate  tho  word  pill  hero  with  a  familiar 
method  of  taking  physic.  But  is  it  not  mther  the 
old  spelling  of  iMv^,  the  rind  of  a  fruit  P  Of  this 
spelling  a  well-known  passage  in  the  Merchant  of 
fVni'ce  contaius  an  illustration : — 

"  The  skilrul  chcjiberd  piUtd  me  ceriaia  wandu," — 
and  of  tbe  corresponding  substantive,  a  line  in 
Spenser's  20th  sonnet  — 

■-  SvKt  ia  the  nut,  but  bitter  1)  hit  pi//"— 
a  lino  which   is  curiously  paralleled  ID  Touch- 
stone's parody  on  Orlando  s  verses  to  AoMlind  — 
"  Swectojt  nul  hath  Miumt  rind." 

The  contract  between  the  sweet  fmit  and  its  eour 
akin  was  perhaps  proverbial. 

Alfred  Ai^coer. 

Sir  JonK  Df.lwal  (P  of  Buth,  Northuxbbx- 

laicdV  i.t  itVii. — This  knight  is  strongly  praised 

by  William  Bullevn  in   his  Setilic  of  Simplrt,  foL 

71,  where  he  speaks  of  salt-making  in  England : 

"  Mutrli  «tlt  it  mmle  in  Enelanil,  u  of  Saad  and  Salt 
water  Pii.\  in  Ilollaude  in  LvDculnshyre,  and  only  by  a 
mnrnevloiH  humour  of  wUn,  al  the  shne*  by  TlnnoBtk 
Cattle.  I,  lIuMn,  tbe  author  hereof,  hioe  a  pan  oTsdt 
-^^Qu  \\a  lunt  «atei.    At  Blith  in  NocthnmMilaad  ia 


4*  &  IX.  JuHB  22,  TS.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


SOS 


good  salt  made,  and  al80#ftt  sir  Ihon  Delanals  Pannet, 
wbyoh  syr  Ihoa  Delaaal,  knight*  hath  bin  a  Patron  of 
worship  and  hospitalitie,  most  like  a  famoos  Gentleman, 
daring  many  yeares,  and  powdreth  (B8alts)'no  man  by 
the  salt  of  extorcion  or  oppressing  his  neyghbonr,  bat 
liberally  spendeth  his  Salt,  VVheat,  and  his  Mault,  like  a 
Gentleman.  I  needenot  put  his  name  in  remembraance  in 
my  booke,  for  it  shall  lyue  by  immortall  good  fame,  when 
my  poore  booke  shal  be  rotten,  deare  brother  Marcellas." 

F.  J.  FURNITALL. 

A  SiXGULAB  ChAKITY. — 

**  A  singular  charity  was  dispensed  at  Leigh  ton  Buz- 
zard and  Linslade  last  week.  Between  two  and  three 
hundred  children  walked  from  the  Swan  Inn  to  a  field  at 
Linslade,  and  there,  in  the  presence  of  a  number  of  gen- 
tlemen (the  trustees  of  Wilke*s  Charity),  stood  on  their 
beads,  and  then  returned  to  the  Swan  Inn,  where  they 
bad  two  buns  each  and  half-a-pint  of  beer.  This  was 
ordered  to  be  done  once  every  year.  The  charity  consists 
of  seyeral  fields  at  Linslade,  which  are  let,  and  the  treat 
to  the  children  is  part  of  the  proceeds.** 

EVEBABD  HOHE  COLEMAK. 
71,  Brecknock  Road,  N. 

Phonetic  Spelling. — I  believe  that  the  Rev. 
William  Jillard  Ilort  was  the  inventor  of  phonetic 
,  spelling,  the  originator  in  fact  of  that  system 
which  has  been  applied  to  stenography  by  Mr. 
Pitman  and  others,  and  has  effected  wonders  in 
the  literary  world.  I  have  before  me  a  book 
published  by  him  in  1812  with  the  following 

"Miscellaneous  English  Exercises,  consisting  of  selected 
Pieces  of  Prose  and  Poetry  written  in  False  Spelling, 
False  Grammar,  and  without  Stops,  calculated  to  convey 
Amusement  and  Instruction  to  young  Minds,  as  well  as 
to  promote  Improvement  in  the  Orthography  of  our  own 
Language,  by  Rev.  W^m.  Jillard  Hort,  Author  of  The 
Practical  Ciphering-Book,  The  New  Pantheon^  and  An 
Introduction  to  the  Sttufy  of  Chronoiogu  and  History. 
Bristol :  Printed  by  E.  Bryan,  51,  Com  Street,  for  Long- 
man, Hurst,  Rees,  Orme  &  Brown,  J.  Mawman,  bar- 
ton &  Harvey,  London  ;  Wilson  &  Son,  York;  W.  Mayler 
&  Son,  S.  Upham,  and  J.  Barratt,  Bath ;  and  B.  Barry, 
Bristol  1812.** 

The  author  resided  at  Red  Lodge,  Bristol ;  and 
he  certainlv  displayed  much  industry^  and  imparted 
no  small  share  of  amusement  and  mstructiOn  by 
his  book,  which  is  an  8vo  of  242  pages.  In  the 
preface  he  says  "  the  grammatical  errors  are  chiefly 
those  which  most  commonly  prevail,  and  the 
false  spelling  is  intended  to  resemble  and  express 
as  much  as  possible  the  usual  pronunciation  and 
sounding  of  the  words.''  In  some  respects  Uie 
book  is  valuable  as  indicating  the  mode  of  pro- 
nouncing words. 

Maueice  Lenihan,  M.RJ.A. 

Limerick. 

Thomas  Saokevtlle,  Lobd  Buckhurst,  Earl 
Dorset,  K.Q.,  Lord  Tbeasijrer  of  Enqlakd, — 
In  John  Thane's  ^nVwA  Gallenf  of  Hutorical  Por^ 
traits  this  great  statesman  is  said  to  h^ve  been  bom 
in  the  year  1636,  whereas  in  Ch.  John  Smith  and 
John  Grough  Nichols's  Atdoffraphs  of  HemarkahU 


Personages  the  date  of  his  birth  is  given  as  1527. 
Which  is  the  correct  one  ? 

I  have  before  me  a  very  important  political 
letter  addressed  to  Queen  Elizabeth  from  Paris  in 
Nov.  1564,  by  Sackeville,  who  signs — "Your 
highnes  most  bounden  and  humble  Subiecte 
Thomas  Sackevylle." 

Now,  I  am  struck  with  the  similarity  of  hand 
in  the  body  of  this  long  letter  (two  pages  and  a 
half)  and  that  of  Sir  Thomas  uresham  in  Wm. 
Burgon's  Life  and  Times  of  Gresham  (voL  ii.),  as 
also  in  Ch.  J.  Smith  and  J.  Q.  Nichols's  work 
above-mentioned,  the  last  line  of  which  I  enclose 
a  facsimile,  as  also  the  last  line  of  my  letter; 
and  I  would  beg  leave  to  ask  whether  it  is  not 
possible  and  likely  that  Sir  Thomas  Gresham, 
who  is  known  to  have  been  constantly  on  the  high 
roads  between  England,  France,  and  the  Low 
Countries,  mav  have  accompanied  Sackeville  to 
France  in  1564,  and  have  acted  as  his  amanuensis 
in  transcribing  this  important  letter  in  duplicate. 
''  to  make  assurance  double  sure  "  P  for  it  treats  oi 
the  Guises,  ChatiUons,  Cond^,  and  the  Queen  of 
Scots.  A  letter  wholly  in.Gresham's  handwrit* 
ing  would  of  itself  be  of  sufficient  value.  At  the 
back  is  written — "  To  the  Queenes  most  excelent 
maiestie  be  thease  Deliverede" ;  and  crossways  — 
'*  Novembr  1569,  Tho.  Sackuyle  to  the  Qu." 

The  letter  begins — "Although  (most  excelent 
Prince)  mine  emest  mind  and  dutie  to  serve  Your 
Maiestie  being  greter  then  I  cau  possiblie  write," 
&c.  P.  A.  L. 

Jaqttes'  Dial.  —  In  the  introductory  chapter 
of  Mrs.  Gatty's  Book  of  Sundials  there  occurs  the 
following  passage : — 

**  The  peasant  in  the  Pyrenees  carries  in  his  pocket  a 
small  cylinder  made  of  box- wood,  and  not  larger  in  size 
than  a  pocket-knife.  The  top  of  it  can  be  drawn  oat, 
when  a  small  bltfde  taming  on  a  pin  forms  a  gnomon, 
which  can  be  adjasted  to  tho  lines,  ngures,  and  initials  of 
the  months  that  are  carved  in  the  wood.  It  will  tell  the 
time  when  consalted  within  five  minates.  Wo  suggest 
this  form  as  more  simple  and  primitlye  than  the  nog- 
dial,  which  some  think  was  the  article  alladed  to  in  ^< 
You  Like  It."* 

Since  the  publication  of  the  work  I  have  met 
with  an  old  volume,  De  HoroloffOs,  by  John 
Conrad  Ulmer,  dated  mdlvi.,  which  contains  three 
separate  woodcuts  of  a  pocket-dial  identically 
similar  to  that  of  which  the  above  description  was 
given.  The  lines  and  numbers  exactly  correspond, 
as  well  as  the  shapes  of  the  two  instruments.  In 
the  woodcut  the  signs  of  the  zodiac  are  given 
instead  of  the  initials  of  the  months.  This  appears 
to  be  strong  evidence  in  favour  of  the  wnter^s 
suggestion.  Under  the  woodcut  is  ^*  Compositio 
cyuudri,  hoc  est,  trund  columnaris." 

AlfrIbd  Qatct^I^X^. 


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tierirsf. 

UlXOXS,  ViCAKS  OF  BUCKUINSTER,  Co.  LeICSS- 

TEii. — Samuel  Dixon,  yi.X.  of  Emanuel  College, 
CAiiibridjjfe,  was  inducted  vicar  of  Buckmiuster  in 
l^M  ;  his  son,  John  Dixon,  M.^V.  of  the  same  col- 
1^/'.:,  in1G'.)5;  nud  his  grandson,  Edward  Dixon, 
M.A.  of  Clare  Hall,  Cambridge,  in  1720.  I  wish 
vr  TV  much  to  know  the  immediate  lineage  of  the 
aboVe  Samuel  Dixon,  and  will  be  greatly  oblitjfed 
i:  some  courteous  Cantab  will  help  me  by  refer- 
onct^  to  the  archives  of  Emanuel  College.  Any 
cov.imunication,  if  not  of  sufliciont  value  for 
**X.  &  Q..,''  may  be  sent  to  me  under  cover  to 
Mr^.  Cliarlesworth,  Carlton,  near  Selbv,  co.  York. 

11.  \V.  Dixox. 

LordDkumlaxuig. — In  the  register  of  Londes- 
b  r-jugh  (formerly  LanL\sborough)  church,  inYork- 
sli ire,  occurs  thisi  entry:  ''1710.  Eai'le  of  Dum- 
1  nrick  was  buried  feb.  l7."  Who  was  this  person  ? 
Tlio  title  app«-ars  to  be  meant  for  Drumlanrig, 
'vliich  was  borne  by  the  eldest  sons  of  the  Scotch 
I  Jakes  of  Queeusberr}'.  If  James  Earl  of  Drum- 
i.iiirig,  the  eldest  surviving  and  idiot  t»onof  Jamoi*. 
'T'ic^iiui  Duke  of  Queensberry  (who  was  created 
by  l^ueeu  Anne  Duke  of  Dover,  witii  remainder 
t-.i  ills  second  eon  Charles,  already  created  Earl  of 
S  iway,  and  died  1711)  had  survived  his  father, 
c-j  lid  he  have  boen  excluded,  on  aocount  of  his 
iiio^^v,  from  succeed inp:  to  the  Scotch  dukedom  of 
i>  '.'Miusberry !"  The  interment  of  Lord  Drumlanrig 
a".  Lond«-sborough  in  accounted  for  by  tlie  fnct 
t  ■!  It  hid  mother  wa^i  Mary  Bovl<\  sister  of  Charles, 
■  'vond  Eiirl  of  Burlington  and  third  Earl  of  Cork, 
fc:..i  most  of  tiie  iJurlington  Jioyles  are  buried  at 
L  tndtisborough.  Edmund  M.  Boylk. 

Jiock  Woml,  Turiuay. 


DroDALK's  **MoxASTico>'/' — There  are  t WO  im- 
pressions of  Caley,  Elli.s  and  Bandiners  edition 
■:'  the  Mona.^iictm:  owt  bearing  date  1^17-1830, 
ard  the  other  1H1(5.  Are  these  two  impressions 
:  Iiriitical,  cxoopt  as  n.-jiards  nicru  misprints? 
iX  hu's  Lov'fuI'S  says  thai  the  impn*ssion  of  184C 
ii  '' a  reprint  ff  the  preceding,  with  some  slight 
•  .::is-ions.''  On  the  other  hand,  a  p-i^rson  who 
i.'.J  the  v<»rv  best  mi.'iins  of  knowiuj:  the  truth 
i:  ^>  assured  mo  tliat  Ih'"*  two  bjoks  are  the  same, 
*■  pa^^e  for  \r);r*^  aliiie.*'  My  working  copy  is  of 
l'.'-'  latter  edition,  and  the  one  in  the  reading-room 
r>i"  the  British  Museum  of  the  foimt.-r;  vet  1  have 
:":'.md  the  references  in  my  notes  tally  exactly 
v.-:th  the  pages  in  that  co])v.  1  am  anxious  for 
T-.rfoctly  accurate  information  on  this  head  for 
\'i^:  fallowing  reason:  —  There  is  no  index  of 
MTU'^a  of  persons  to  the  Monaiticvu ;  and  tliat  of 
ii  \:ne^  of  places  is  so  imperfect  that,  except  for  the 
purpose  of  directing  one  to  the  monasteries  them- 
"r'oJvoSj  it  13  rather  worse  than  useless.  1  \iCL\« 
dvtvrmined  to  supply  this  want,  as  far  aa  1  am 


myselt  concerned,  bv  comMliog. a  complete  u 

to  the  edition  of  1846.  If  the  two  imnreflnoiM 
tally,  and  m^  index  when  finished  woala  answer 
for  bothy  it  18  just  possible  I  might  find  a  pub- 
'lisher;  but  if  the  pages  do  not  correapond,  it  ia, 
I  fear,  extremely  unlikely.  A.  O.  V.  P. 

Fa^lt  Names  as  CaitiSTiA2r  Xaxes.— How 
far  back  can  be  traced  the  now  common  custom 
of  using  noble  simames  as  Christian  names,  and 
that  generally  by  people  in  no  way  connected, 
not  even  by'  service,  with  those  families?  I 
allude  to  such  names  as  I^ercy,  Stanley,  Sidney, 
Ilerbert^  Montagu,  Cecil,  Iloward,  &c.  &c 

Nkphbitb.  . 

Jonx  IlAMrnEy. — "Who  wt»  Lettice  Vachell, 
the  second  wife  of  John  Hampden  the  patriot  P 
She  is  said  by  Lipscomb  to  have  been  buried  at 
Great  Hampden  on  ^Lirch  2i>,  1G06.  How  was 
the  late  Bishop  Hampden  descended  from  the 
Hampdens  of  Great  Hampden  i'  It  ia  positively 
stated  in  the  Journal  of  the  Archaoiuip'cal  Assort' 
ation  (\o\  xxiv.  .*^j  that  he  was  **a  direct 
descendant  in  the  male  line  of  the  celebrated  John 
Hampden,*'  whose  sword  was  in  the  possession  of 
the  bishop's  brother.  But  this  must  be  wrong, 
for  on  the  death  of  John  Hampden  in  1754  the 
hell's  of  the  daughters  of  the  patriot  were  found 
to  be  his  heirs  at  law,  which  couli  not  have  been 
the  case  if  there  had  been  then  living  any  de- 
scendants of  the  patriot's  sons.  Tewars. 

Kniguts  HosriTALLERS. — In  the  Pedes  Finiutn 
published  by  the  Kecord  Comniiseion  is  fouad  a 
Finis  which  ehows  that  in  the  year  1200  the 
Knights  of  St.  John  possessed  extendi ve  lands  in 
Kisely,  Beds,  which  they  had  let  to  Walter,  son  of 
Robert  de  Kisely.  in  1080  the  Dom  Book  names 
only  the  following  landowners  in  the  paiish :  the 
Bish()p  of  Lincoln,  Hugh  de  Beauchamp,  Osbert 
Fitz-Bichard,  and  Goisfred  Bishop  of  Coutance, 
the  last  mentioned  havinff  the  lion's  share.  Hence 
it  is  clear  that  the  Knights  must  have  come  into 
their  Biseley  property  sometime  between  the 
above  two  dates.  Will  one  of  your  learned  con- 
tributoi-s  have  the  kindness  to  inform  nie  to  whoso 
generosity  they  were  indebted  for  it!"*  Goisfred's 
enormous  I'^nglish  possessions,  280  manors,  were 
inherited  by  his  nephew,  Kobert  de  Mowbray, 
who  f  umed'rebel  and  died  in  prison,  leaving  some 
of  his  property  to  pious  uses.  AVere  the  Knights 
Hospitallers  among  the  lucky  legatees  ?     Orxrs. 

Itidcly,  IJcds. 

liKPELL  Fa MTLY.— Information  about  the  family 
or  ancestors  of  the  General  Lepel,  or  Lepell,  whose 
daughter  was  ''  the  beautiful  Sf oUr  Lepell,"  after- 
waiils  wife  of  '*Sporus"  Lord  HerrejP  -where 
they  came  from,  if  thev  were  landowners  in  the 
island  of  Saric,  and  if  ther  are  of  Oeraua  or 
¥i«a&Vi.  on^Tv^  A.  friend  of  mine,  of  old  Pdme- 
iwoMCL  1«xk\i^  ''vVinitb  Tas&A^a«^v6. 1«||^  ^Rwdd 


\ 


4<k  &  IX.  JuxB  22, 72.] 


NOTES- AND  QUERIED 


507 


like  to  know  if  Molly  Lepel  was  a  remote  ances- 
tress ;  as  tLere  is  some  vague  idea  in  the  .family 
that  there  was  some  connection  with  England  in 
the  xeign  of  Queen  Anne.  Gjelbtszeil. 

Mappa  Mundi. — At  a  sale  a  few  months  back, 
either  at  Sothebj^s  or  Christie 's,  I  think  the  latter, 
was  a  MS.  thirteenth  or  fourteenth  century  Psalter, 
with  a  Mappa  Mundi  in  it.  Can  any  one  inform 
me  what  has  become  of  it  ?  J.  C.  J. 

NiGHTWATCHES. — Will  any  of  your  nautical 
readers  kindly  inform  me  into  how  many  periods 
the  hours  of  tne  night  are  diyided  at  sea  by  Eng- 
lish sailors  ?  and  whether  these  periods  are  still 
termed  night-watches  ?  Student. 

[The  length  of  the  sea-watch  is  not  the  same  in  the 
shipping  of  different  nations.  It  is  always  kept  four 
hours  by  our  British  seamen,  if  we  except  .the  dog-watch 
between  four  and  eight  in  the  evening;  that  contains  two 
reliefs,  each  of  which  is  only  two  hours  on  dedc.  The  in- 
tent  of  this  is  to  change  the  period  of  the  night-watch 
every  twenty-four  hours;  so  that  the* party  watching 
from  eight  till  twelve  in  one  night,  shall  watch  from 
midnight  till  four  in  the  morning  on  the  succeeding  one.] 

Oas8  and  Bebches.— Would  any  of  your  cor- 
respondents kindly  inform  me  of  the  whereabouts 
of  any  very  fine  old  oaks  or  beeches  that  are 
closely  grown  with  wild  under^wth,  or  that  are 
exposed  to  the  rays  of  the  rising  or  the  setting 
sun.  Windsor,  Sherwood,  Bumham  Beeches,  ana 
the  New  Forest  1  know.  Mac  Callum. 

Porcelain  Figure. — I  purchased  lately  at  a 
sale  in  the  country  a  porcelain  fi^re  of  ii^astem 
character,  which  was  stated  to  oe  a  "  Chinese 
idol ' ';  but,  as  I  suspect  it  is  neither  an  idol  nor 
Chinese,  I  would  like  to  know  what  the  figure 
really  is,  and  the  place  of  its  manufacture.  I 
trust  the  following  description  will  be  sufficiently 
clear.  The  figure  is  entirely  of  pure  white  china, 
and  stands  on  a  boss  or  pedestal  of  the  same 
material.  There  is  no  gilding  or  colour,  but  the 
glaze  is  very  pure  and  bright  Total  height  17i( 
inches.  The  subject  represents  a  female  standing, 
with  eyes  closea,  and  hands  laid  one  over  the 
other  in  front ;  fingers  are  all  separate ;  the  wrists 
have  plain  bracelets;  the  sleeves  are  wide  and 
hanging.  The  dress  descends  to  the  feet,  which 
are  naked  and  full  sized,  and  half  conceals  them. 
A  continuation  of  the  outer  garment  covers  the 
back  of  the  head,  and  a  comer  of  it  falls  over 
a  piled-up  mass  of  hair  towards  the  forehead. 
Just  above  the  forehead  the  hair  shows  in  heavy 
rolls,  which  are  surmounted  by  a  wreath  of 
fruit  and  flowers.  The  lobes  of  the  ears  are 
very  large.  A  necklace  of  beads  and  flowers 
hangs  across  the  breast,  and  a  tassel  with  flowers 
hangs  near  the  feet  The  pedestal  is -ornamented 
with  spiral  markings  of  a  Chinese  character,  which 
may  represent  conventional  clouds.  There  is  an 
air  of  repoBe  and  grace  about  the  figure  ^hich  la 
rejj  pleasiag.  W.  H.  P. 


^'QoLLi-GosPERADO.''  —  A  savoury  dish,  pos- 
seesing  an  odour  which,  it  was  said^  no  human 
being  could  resist.  (Sec  Memoir  of  Robert  Cham^ 
bera,  by  his  brother  William  Chambers,  p.  150.) 
Are  the  ingredients  of  this  attractive  compound 
known  to  any  now  living  ?  or  did  the  secret  die 
with  the  inventress  and  her  handmaid,  Pawkie 
MacGougyP  Noell  Radecuffe.J 

'*TnE  Pawnbroker's  Shop.'*  —  Can  any  of 
your  readers  inform  me  who  wrote  a  very  popular 
temperance  drama  called  7^  PawnbroJcer  s  ohopf 
which  seems  to  have  been  frequently  enacted  by 
school  children  ?  When  and  where  was  it  printed  r 
It  was  probably  the  composition  of  a  Lancashire 
author,  and  it  was  performed  (perhaps  not  for 
the  first  time),  by  the  scholars  of  the  Primitive 
Methodist  Scnoo^  Over  Darwen,  Lancashire,  in 
1860.  K.  IxGLis. 

Quotations  wanted. — 

**  Why  are  tbey  shut?" 
Where  are  the  words  to  be  found  forming 
stanzas  with  the  above  refrain,  having  reference 
to  the  closing  of  our  churches  all  the  week  P  Andy 
more  espedslly,  who  was  the  author  of  them  Y 
^  W.  P. 

**  Those 
That  snuffle  their  unlearned  zeal  in  prose. 
As  if  the  way  to  heaven  wis  throagti  the  noso.*' 

H.  A,  K^SSEhY, 

**  And  one  defiprading  boar  of  sordid  fear 
Stamps  on  her  brow  the  wrinkles  of  a  year." 

A.  Hatwaiu). 

Francis  Radcliffe. — Can  any  of  the  readers 
of ''  N.  &  Q."  ^ve  me  any  information  concerning 
a  certain  Francis  Radclifie,  whose  daughter  mar- 
ried Thomas  Lewin,  Esq.,  of  Durham,  and  who 
is  described  in  a  pedigree  in  my  possession  as 
"  nearly  alUcd  to  James  £arl  of  Der  wont  water." 

J.  n.  c. 

"Roy's  Wife  of  Aldivalloch."— This  waa 
once  translated  into  Latin  and  published  in  Ae 
Edinbwgh  Scotsman  about  18(1C  or  1807.  Can 
any  of  your  readers  give  the  date  P  A.  X. 

SoHO  Squabe. — What  is  the  origin  of  Soho?  I 
am  aware  that  Pennant  says  the  square  derived 
its  name  from  the  watchword  of  Monnn.'Uth's 
army  at  Sedgemoor,  but  Macaulay  points  out 
(Hid.  i.  G07)  that  mention  of  Soho  Fields  **  will 
DC  found  in  many  books  printed  before  the  Western 
insurrection;  for  example,  in  Chamberlavne's 
State  of  England^  1684."        John  Pieooi,  /cn. 

Tyddtn  Inco. — In  an  amusing  book  as  w«:ll  as 
trustworthy  guide,  called  The  Gossiping  Guide  to 
Wales,  by  Mr.  Askew  Roberts^  oC  O^^^-^cc^  ^s^v^bex^ 

Can  wi^  \^fi\a\waKa  Xfc>\7^^^:^  ^?^^^^^^^^- 


508 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«i>  S.  IX.  JovB  22,  "TS. 


way,  near  Bala,  a  line  traversed  by  thousands  of 
tourbta  every  summer,  X.  Y.  Z. 

Verb. — With  reprard  to  this  word  I  should  like 
to  know  whether  it  can  be  etvinolo'noally  con- 
nected  with  irord.  If  b  is  ever  converted  into  «, 
the  rest  is  simple  enough. 

Next,  I  should  like  to  know  why  verhum  nhould 
be  applied  to  express  tlie  virh  of  •rrsuninar.  "  Cest 
la  parole  par  excolleuce,"  we  are  always  told, 
Bescherelle  goes  on — 

"Nous  pouvuns  done  di'tliiir  Ic  verlie,  uu  mot  qui  sort 
^  I'xprimer  rexLitoiuv,  IV-tat  dcs  pentonnoii  ct  ilea  choses, 
et  leurs  actions,  soit  physiques  soil  morales.  Cest  le  mot 
qui  donno  la  vie  au  discou»,  il  en  e^t  i'dme." 

Its  conjugation  and  correct  use  are  undoubtedly 
beset  with  dilliculties,  and  constitute  the  major 
part  of  grammar,  but  that  does  not  entitle  it  to 
DB  called  the  word.  If  you  take  away  its  subject 
it  has  no  signification,  so  that  the  sub/cct  is  its 
soul.  It  is  an  entirely  dependent  word,  so  much 
so  that  Condillac  said  there  was  only  one  verb, 
and  that  was  the  verb  cfre;  this  would  reduce  it 
to  a  logical  copula,  so  that  a  conjunctive  would 
become  a  verb.  iJescherelle's  attempt  above  cited 
is  a  little  better  tlian  Lindley  Murray's  **  to  be,  to 
do,  and  to  suH'or."  I  wait  tor  a  better  definition, 
one  divestt^d  of  simile  and  of  such  phrases  of 
vacuity  as  "  leurs  actions  morales.**       0.  A.  W. 

[_Con»ult  that  ailmirabic  little  work,  A  Brief  tSrvck 
Syntax,  by  llev.  F.  \V.  Farrar,  Head  Master  of  Marl- 
borough.] 

AViLLOUGunr  Family. — In  Wtlland  church, 
Worcestershire,,  is  an  inscription  setting  forth  that 
there  lies  interred  the  body  of  Msry,  the  wife  of 
John  Russell,  and  daughter  of  George  \Villoughby 
of  Netherton,  serjeant-at-law,  who  "ended  her 
transitory  life  "  in  lo80.  It  is  accompanied  by  a 
shield  of  the  nrms  of  Kuasell  impaling  those  of 
Willoughby  with  sixteen  quarterings,  several  of 
which  are  mi>namcd  by  Naeli,  the  courjty  his- 
torian, but  there  is  sutKcient  to  show  that  Mrs. 
"VVilloughby  ought  to  have  been  descended  from 
Robert  first  Lord  Willoughby  de  Broke  and 
Manche  his  wife,  the  daughter  and  heiress  of  Sir 
John  Champernon. 

If,  however,  CoUins's  account  t)f  the  Willoughby 
family  is  correct,  this  could  not  be :  for  Lord 
Willoughby  had  by  the  heiress  of  Champernon 
an  otdy  son,  llobert,  his  successor,  who.se  only  sur- 
vimug  son,  Edward,  had  a  daughter,  and  eventu- 
ally sole  heiress,  married  to  Sir  Fulke  Greville, 
from  whom  the  pre.sent  Lord  Willoughby  de 
Broke  derives  his  descent. 

How  then  was  George  Willoughby  of  Nether- 
ton related  to  the  Lords  Willouchby  ? 

I  Deed  not  occupy  your  valuable  space  in  bla- 

£oning  the  several  quarteringa  upon  this  e\i\e\d*, 

ifut  I  aboiiJd  be  much  obliged  to  any  corres^iv- 

dent  who  could  explain  how  the  coata  of  Aichi 


Shakerley,  Paveley,  and  Trussell  were  brouffbt  in 
— they  come  between  Latimer  and  StafTonT— and 
also  account  for  the  following  coats  which  follow 
Champernon:  Dethicke  of  Bread8al-(or  Mejnell) 
and  Riggory. 

A  George  Willoughby  obtained  from  John 
Dudley,  then  Viscount  Lisle,  a  grant  of  the  Manor 
of  Little  Comberton  in  Worcestershire,  which 
(Nash  says)  his  son  Thomas  conveyed  to  ^'his 
relation  John  Hunks"  in  the  0th  of  Elizabeth. 
The  advowson  of  the  church  of  Little  Comberton 
belonged,  however,  to  the  Willoughbys  in  1680, 
for  in  that  year  Thomas  and  Robert  Willoughby 
jointly  presented  to  the  church. 

II.  Sydxet  Grazebbook. 


EryltrK. 


ArOCRYPIIAL  GEXEALOGV. 
(4»»»  S.  ix.  SoCy,  434.) 

As  the  smallest  and  most  wretched  of  the  three 
little  flies  impaled  by  a  cruel  butcher-bird  upon  a 
thorn,  let  me,  I  beseech  you,  make  a  humble  buzx 
before  I  die. 

In  my  note  upon  the  manor  of  Weston-under- 
liyzard,  to  which  you  gave  insertion  at  p.  274  of 
this  volume,  I  made  no  pretence  to  original  re- 
search, but  distinctly  recorded  the  sources  from 
,  whence  I  derived  my  information.  My  authorities 
were  Sir  William  Segar,  Garter  Kiug-at-Arma— 
a  ^eneal()gist  of  no  mean  repute — and  Sir  Bernard 
Burke,  our  present  UlAer :  and  I  stated  that  the 
pedigree  of  the  Westons  of  Weston-under-Lyiard 
IS  'supported  by  very  voluminous  evidence,  ex- 
tracted from  public  records  and  other  trustworthy 
documents,  copies  of  which,  certified  under  Segar  s 
own  hand,  swell  a  large  fulio  volume  to  which 
the  seal  of  the  College  of  Arms  is  attached.  I 
considered  that  it  would  be  of  interest  to  bring 
into  a  tolerably  concise  form  in  '*  N.  &  Q."  in- 
formation derived  from  an  authoritative  source, 
but  scattered  through  a  bulky  volume  not  gene- 
rally accessible ;  and,  reprehensible  as  it  may  ap- 
pear to  Tewars,  I  acknowledge  that  I  did  not 
and  shall  not  attempt  the  ver^'  onerous  and,  as  I 
believe,  utterly  unnecessary  task  of  comparing  the 
copy  of  each  document  with  its  originaL  With 
equally  blind  faith — for  I  may  as  well  make  a  bid 
for  entire  contempt — I  confess  that  I  accept  data 
in  tables  of  logarithms  and  in  standard  works  of 
reference,  that  I  do  not  at  first  sight  consider 
every  distinguished  herald  to  be  a  fabricator  of 
fiotitious  records,  and  that  as  yet  I  have  failed  to 
examine  an  elephant  through  a  microscope. 

But  then  remember^  pleaae,  that  i  am  only  a 
little  fly. 

!&^  c».^\«t  would  endeavour  to  persuade  us  to 

\MS\iv«^  VAX  ^\x^*^YUBL^M|2tt  TBooaX^n^  \mmiii  of 

,  Y  Ct«\ASi  Citv^gni',  \yi«X.\A  \j(w*a 


4>^S.IZ.  Ju»»,T!.] 


KOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


in  the  nee  for  the  obloquj  of  poataritj ;  and  th&t 
his  pet  genealc^  of  the  Westona  enjoys  the  pre- 
eminence of  heing  one  of  the  most  elaborate  com- 
piUliona  of  f&Uehoods  extant.  The  Garter-King 
u  gibbeted  in  his  tabard  with  hie  chef-d'oiuTrt; 
bung  around  his  neck  amidst  a  vast  crowd  of  aris- 
tocratic victims ;  the  Weaton  pedigree  haTiug  bceti 
denounced  by  Tswabs  as  a  "  fabrication  of  thi' 
same  claaa  as  abouads  in  the  Peerage  and  Landtd 
Omtry  and  such  other  compilations  of  genealo- 

S'cal  mjthologj."  It  cannot  be  denied  that  Segar 
IS  the  honour  of  auSering  in  good  companj ;  the 
executiona  are  conducted  oo  a  liberal  sc^e  bj 
Tbwabs  ;  his  yictima  are  both  numerous  and 
fasliionable,  and  the  duties  of  the  hangman  ex- 
tend to  the  very  highest  drcles. 

Tbwars  writes  that  he  ia  a  "  relation "  of 
Richard  Weston,  first  Earl  of  Fortland  (oi.  a,d, 


I  

.  beard  heraldic  and  litemr^  lions  of  such  majesty ; 
'  to  batter  with  icoooclnatic  zeal  the  I^res  and 
!  I'enatea  of  aristocratic  idolatry ;  and  to  invade  the 
sacred  portala  of  the  Colle^  of  Arma,  striding  to 
'  rend  asunder  its  Dagon  in  tne  midst. 
I  However,  let  each  one  interested  aoe  to  his  own 
wrong.  For  my  part,  I  content  myself  with  pro- 
testing against  tbs  unjustifiable  imputations  of 
"  degrading  genealogy  to  rainialer  to  vanity  "  ; 
of  "  repeating  idle  traditions  which  brine  geoe- 
alogy  into  discredit  and  expose  its  atudents  to 
ridicule";  and  of  "  writing  in  :a  literary  joumj 
on  subjects  which  I  have  not  taken  reasonable 
pains  to  understand."  Words  of  grava  import 
theae  by  n  critic  who  in  the  same  breath  bo 
judiciously  insists  upon  statements  which  aro 
"  governed  by  the  law  of  evidence  and  will  stand 
the  test  of  common  sense."  H.  H. 


present  belief  that  the  grandfather  of  the 
Kichard  Weston  was  the  grandson  of  a  London 
citiien  of  "  unascertained  parentage."  I  am,  it 
is  true,  nothing  better  than  a  dipterous  insect  of 
dubious  descent,  cheriaJiing  only  the  tradition  of 
an  uncertain  father;  yet  without  overpowering, 
Will  aicertainrd  proof,  I  would  not  even  think 
lightly  of  htm ;  and  as  I  desire  to  die  in  charity 
towatda  all  my  enemies,  I  prny  that  my  impaler 
may  be  led  to  remember  that  the  bird  which 
deiiles  its  own  nest  is  not  generally  considered  to 
hold  a  dignified  position  in  the  scale  of  creation. 

Not  content  with  eiracin"  Segar  and  Burke, 
and  putting  to  a  cruel  ending  auch  small  game  as 
I  am,  Thwabs  would  even  wish  to  drag  "  N.  &,  Q." 
to  the  stake  for  admitting  "  idle  traditions  "  into 
its  pages.  But  if  such  be  indeed  considered  a 
fitting^  title  for  the  sources  from  whence  my  con- 
tribution was  derived,  I  affirm  with  Sir  Bernard 
Burke — whose  modest  preface  to  the  Landed 
Gentrtf  Tbwabs  would  do  well  to  read— that  the 
very  publication  of  erroneous  ^nealogical  state- 
ments is  not  without  its  value,  since  being  brought 


before  the  public  "  they  challenge  inquiry,  i 
there  be  error,  inadvertent  or  wilful,  that  i 


id  if 


will  be  sure  some  day  o 
set  right." 


other  to  be  detected  and 


1  hate  apocryphal  genealogy,  coach- 
builders'  heraldry,  and  snami  or  all  sorts,  more 
than  I  do,  and  I  fully  appreciate  the  earnest,  truth- 
loving  spirit  with  which  I  feel  sure  that  Tbwabs 
is  animated,  but  I  wish  him  to  be  more  just  and 
discriminating.  In  the  tornado  of  his  censure  he 
would  fun  sweep  into  the  chaos  of  his  waste- 
paper  basket  the  labours  of  all  genealogists  from 
Segar  to  Bnrke ;  would  impale  everything  smaller 
than  a  butcher-bird ;  and  would  cleanse  the  Au- 
gean stable  of  "N.  &  Q,"  with  a  besom  potent 
u  the  mop  which  Mrs.  Partiii^n  tued  bo  effec- 
Hrefy  ^gtoBtt  IhoAtlMatie. 


Tour  correspondent  Tkwars  ie  quite  right  in 
"  hitting  hard  "  at  that  foolish  vanity  which  ia 

'  content  to  rest  its  claim  to  the  honours  of  a  good 
pedigree  on  unsupported  statements.    But  I  think 

I  that  there  is  an  opposite  danger  to  be  avoided    - 
also ;  and  it  is  one  to  which  the  sceptical  humour 

I  of  the  present  day  exposes  us— I  mean  that  of 
believing  too  little.     Where  a  family  posseasee  a 

I  pedigree  certified  by  the  Heralds'  College— the 
only  recognised  oflicial  authority  —  it  is  fair,  I 
think,  to  assume  its  correctness,  until  proof  of  the 
reverse  is  forthcoming.  The  family  makes  its 
claim,  and  produces  the  best  documentary  evi- 
dence for  it  within  its  reach.  The  onut  probandi, 
after  this,  lies,  I  think,  on  the  other  side.    As  &t 

I  ag  the  Heralds'  College  is  concecned,  I  can  bear 

j  personal  testimony  to  the  scrupulous  strictnese 
with  which  they  insist  on  documentary  proof  at 

I  the  present  day.  I  think,  too,  that  inlaying  blame 
on  llugdale,  and  other  earlier  heralds,  for  the  mia- 
uJies  into  which  they  fell,  sufficient  aUowance  ia 
not  often  made  for  the  uncritical  temper  of  the 
times  in  which  they  lived,  and  by  which  they  were 
themselves  unconsciously  influenced.  I  ought  to 
apeak  with  diffidence,  because  my  owu  experi- 
mental knowledge  of  these  subjects  ia  limited ; 
but  I  have  come  across  instances  which  hare 
lutiafied  me  that  theae  early  blunders  were  not 
wilful,  but  made  in  all  honesty  for  the  most  part; 
and  that  they  arose  sometimes  out  of  the  frequent 
recurrence  of  Christian  names  which  were  in 
favour  with  particular  families,  or  more  frequently 
out  of  the  imperfect  knowledge  then  possessed  of 
the  documents  lying  buried  amongst  our  public 
records.  V.  M.  H.  C. 

P.8.  When  Tkwass  or  any  one  else  8aye>''l 
have  not  found  >•  c>\u&««  tA.  wy&V  '^^^  wuai^iiRN 
evidence  ttialt,  \»«,  wi  U«,'\>»  WiA  ■,  ^-" 

I  it  '^vw  Lot^kas^  man. 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


l.i»8.U.  JcMKifn. 


CIlIilbTlAX   XAMES. 
(  4"  S.  ii.  i-23.) 

Ilr.tatT.STBi-MK'»  aw'^eititin  ns  (n  CliriatiBn 
nami's  should  cettniuly  be  ni^ti'd  upon.  I  niu  nut, 
buwcTcr,  sure  that  I  ^linuld  teel  tniit  I  Imd  nuide 
a  bluiider  if  I  hud  written  n  novfl  of  the  reign  of 
ChAcltfB  II.  in  vhich  I  hud  ciilli'd  oav  nf  the 
ladies  Clue  (not  Clam),  for  in  o  lUt  of  the  Koman 
Catholics  of  Vorkshiw,  ninde  iu  the  year  1604, 1 
hnve  met  with  the  folluwing  cutry: — 

"CUrr.thc  diiiKliter  i>r  F.liznlirlli  Cniiii<,  ilulb  lonift- 
tyme  lesurt  ta  yc  tiuuw  uf  In  r  muilii-r." 

The  MS.  from  whi<:h  I  niiole  is  in  the  Bodleian 
lihrarj,  Uawl.  Ha.  i!.  4'>2.  fol.  l;t.  The  nhula  of 
thlB  record  hns  faeini  IrnnEcribed  bv  iiiu,  and  will 
ahortlv  be  publi^^hcd,  nccouipnuitd  bj-  notes  mid 
an  index. 

Anolhcr  int-laiice  of  this  nmne  iu  tlio  ceTen- 
toenth  ci'Utury  occurs  to  me.  yir  liifhwd  I'orsler, 
uf  Stokesh'V,  m'tbe  couutv  of  York,  the  second 
baronet,  wfio  was  forty-two  years  old  in  1005, 

niud  Clnre,  daughter  of  Anthony  Meynejl,  of 


"  Clam  de  Clirc  of  Ulut>l«i's  lluoil  " 
is  the  heroine  of  i^ir  Walter  t^cott's  lUarmion.    I 
think  I  Lave  seen  evidcnco,  thiiugh  I  do  not  bap- 

ficn  to  have  it  bv  nie  at  present,  either  in  mj 
londs  or  mv  hcai1,  that  Clare  was  nut  unknown 
as  H  Christiiin  nuiue  wh.n  Flodden  iielJ  was  wan. 
I  do  not  think  timt  thu  mime  ,of  Murii'l  iias  over 
Lceome  oWiletu,  tliuu^fh  1  c.iiinot  at  Ihis  mouieut 
mention  o  livin)!  person  who  l>eart<  it.  There  are 
six  Muriels  in  the  before-quoted  liat  of  Jtomao 
Catholics :  in  one  instance  only,  however,  is  it 


Averell,  Coikitiince,  Cj'rill,  I>ami'r,  Eden,  Edith, 
Kpham,  Eiunlt,  I'nbian,  Fririeswcde,  UaUired 
((jertrudu),  Iluwise,  JuUhu  in  fi-niale  name), 
Mubell,  Mundail,  Nynion.  Phillis.  ILosc,  Svthe, 
Thoninzine,  Wilfriil,  and  WeuL'fredu. 


"THE  CUHraW  TOLLa." 
(4"  S.  is.  330,  430.) 
The  laic  Stephen  Kemhle  was  no  prmU  metor, 
eicept  aa  reR-'H'ued  corporeal  bulk ;  yet  be  wt» 
I  unqueslionnbly  a  very  fine  elocutioiiist.  It  wia  a 
!  treat  to  hear'him  read  prose,  and  «  alill  greato 
'  one  to  hear  him  recite  poetry.  Dming  Mr.  Kem- 
!  ble's  letter  davs,  the  city  of  Durfaan)  (loy  then  iv- 
sidence)  numbered  amiHigst  its  litetmti  «  faabino' 
able  shoemaker  and  amateur  setcr,  the  kta 
Sir.  Thomas  Burgon.  Hi*  abop,  on  the  Elrat 
Bridge,  at  the  foot  of  tbe  UaodliD  St^a,  wwa 
great  gossiping  place ;  and  Mr.  Kemble,  wha  bad 
a  an&iewhnt  ezagfferated  opinion  of  BurgtHli 
poetical  and  histronic  abilitiea,  waa  frequentlT  tm» 
of  the  loungers.  Burgon  was  a  olerer,  a  wul  in- 
formed, and  nniiahle  nan,  but  bis  poetrr  ia  onljr  of 
an  infeiior  kind :  all  that  can  be  said  ol  it,  ia  that 
it  resenibUd  the  vereee  of  his  patian-rariMr,  aid 
so  caused  a  local  satirist  to  say — 

"  Eo  dull,  yi't  fluwcry.  do  Ihy  numbin  flow, 
Tbit  team  the  pupil  fnim  tlie  Moid  we  ktioir.'' 
The  shop  ^'os  a  fiivourile  place  for  readinn  and 
recitfltioiu,  in  which  I  must  confess  that  I  often 
took  a  port,  and  received  the  judicious  correctioD* 
and  suggestions  of  Mr.  Kemble,  who  wna  the  great 
attraction  of  the  Cri^piniao  Elocution  Hall ! 

Mr.  Kemble  would  often  read  "  by  panienlar 
desire  ''  the  ''  Elegy  "  of  Gray.  I  bar4  fiecjuently 
heard  it,  nod  sometimes  too  when  it  was  given  at 
my  own  rwjuc't,  for  Mr.  Kemble  was  alwayi 
iMlile  and  obliging.  He  invariably  gnva  the  fitat 
line  as  J.  W.  \V.  has  it  at  the  ^ove  refemioe. 
He  would  read — 

"Ihe  cnrfov  lulls!  " 
There  nns  then  a  pause,  and  the  reciter  would 
bold  up  his  left  hand  and  incline  hn  head  lowafd* 
il — pantomimic  action  fur  "  listen ! " 

The  effect  was  very  fine  and  oolanm,  and  KB- 

dered  more  so  perhaps  by  the  intnllectual  faoa  of 

the  venerable  reciter.    Tbe  remaining  portion  of 

the  line  was  given  in  a  low  voice  and  very  slowly. 

Mr.  Kemble  alwiivs  auerled  that  Ait  was  the  true 


UotludfiirJ  Man 


■,  ISiij,-;; 


Hut  what  are  the  earlii'.-C  iiwtnncyn,  and  who 
shall  not  go  on  and  on  produnnjr  still  earlier  ? 

And  who  thiiU  iav  wbi'n  n  iuini>!  ia  obsolete, 
e''[iecinlly  in  these  dnvs  when  it  is  the  fashion  to 
Use  old  naniesP  I  do  not  think  .Muriel  is  obso- 
lete. .\vice,  if  it  is  thu  eanii'  as  AvU,  is  certainly 
nut  obsolete,  for  I  b«v«  known  miiw  than  one, 
and  I  alao  knov  an  Idunea.  P.  I'. 


he  was  constantly  linding  new  and  improved  redd* 
inga,  but  which  were  not  generally  approved  of 
and  appreciated  by  the  public  at  largo. 


reading  of  Kembli;  aud  tbe  auggeatia 
is  the  fact,  tJuit  (imy  was  one  of  the  moat  lou- 
pulous  and  particular  of  ccnectore.  He  ww  ft 
threat  bore  to  the  ease-men,  and  proof  after  pn»f 
was  >' dirty."  I  cannot  suppoae  that  the  mat 
of  a  I  after  " tolls,'  and  of  n  ■emicolou  altM 
'  dav  (.,")  could  have  eacaped  hia  keii.    If  the 


4««>  S,  IX.  JcwK  22, 71] 


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511 


might  show  whether  Mr.  Kemble'e  rea^ng  were 
correct  or  otherwise.  It  is  certainly  an  improYe- 
ment.  James  Hbnry  Dixoir. 


It  may  be  worth  while  to  record  in  "  N.  &  Q." 
that  Hichmal  L^tpi  Mangnall,  when  a  teacher  at 
the  once  celebrated  school  of  Crofton  near  Wake- 
field, always  recommended  a  pause  after  **  tolls  " 
to  indicate  what  she  thought  was  the  proper  read- 
ing intended  by  the  poet.  This  undoubted  fact 
was  supplied  by  my  late  mother  (Miss  MangnalVs 
£aTourita  pupil),  wno  always  acted  on  that  recom- 
mendation. I  haye  italidsed  **  Lippd,"  which  was 
Mies  Mangnairs  second  Christian  nanie,  although 
I  haye  neyer  seen  it  as  such  on  the  title-pa];e8  of 
her  reprinted  educational  works. 

Chief  Ermine. 


LUTHEU. 

(4^  S.  ix,  427.) 

I  doubt  not  for  a  moment  but  that  a  prompt 
and  peremptory  denial  will  be  given  to  the  Abo^ 
F — X  Feller's  assertion  that  such  a  prayer,  m 
Luther's  haudwritiug,  exists  at  the  Vatican.  The 
whole  of  the  great  reformer's  exemplary  life  is  a 
striking  protest  againsi  the  scandalous  words  at- 
tributed to  him  :  **  Viele  Weiber,  wenig  Kinder.'* 
lie  said,  and  he  proyed  it :  "  Ich  will  beweisen, 
dasz  der  Ehestana  sey  der  allergeistlichste  Stand, 
und  dasiz  man  fiil^tchlich  und  mit  Unrecht  etliche 
Stande  hat  geistliche  Orden,  und  die  Ehe  welt- 
lichen  Stand  gennnnt."  See  Weydmann's  Luther, 
ein  Character^-  ftnd  Spiegel' BUd  fur  unsere  Zeit, 
Writing  to  N.  Amsdorft',  Luther  said:  *'Ich  bin 
nicht  yerliebt,  noch  brenne  ich,  sondem  ich  liebo 
mein  Weib."  Addressing  his  wife,  he  says: 
*'  Kathe,  du  hast  einen  frommen  Maun,  der  dich 
Liebe  hat ;  du  bist  einc  Kaiserinn."  Thdn  again, 
he  says :  *'  £r  wiirde  seine  Hausfrau  nicht  um  das 
KoDigreich  Frankreich,  noch  um  die  Schiitze  yon 
Venedig  geben."  So  much  for  "vide  Weiber"; 
and  as  to  '^  wenig  Kinder,''  we  find,  in  Jimker's 
Ltfo  of  LuthcTj  Catharina  yon  Bora  saying :  — 

*'  Doctor  Luthern  don  kUhncn  Hdil 
Mir  zu  em  Ehmann  aiinerwehlt 
Dorn  ich  im  keuschen  EbsUnd  moin, 
Gubar  drey  SohH,  drey  TochlerieinS^ 

The  like  edifying  examples,  in  contradiction  of 
the  so-called  Luther's  autograph  prayer  at  the 
Vatican,  could  be  giyen  ad  infiniium.  During 
the  celebrated  Diet  at  Augsburg  in  1530,  Dietrich, 
writing  to  Melanchthon  wmsi  Coburg,  where  it  was 
thought  preferable  Luther  should  abide,  saya :  — 

"  I  cannot  rafficiently  admire  Dr.*  Lather*8  firmneBR, 
his  joy,  bia  faith,  and  hope.  He  strengthona  himself 
ilaiiv  more  and  more  in  these  sentiments  by  a  constant 
appfication  of  God*a  word.  I  one  day  had  the  pri\'ilege 
to  hear  him  pray.  Qreat  God,  what  a  mind,  what  fkith ! 
He  prayed  with  all  the  earnestness  of  a  man  standing 


befbre  hit  Maker,  and  all  the  confidence  of  a  chfld  speak- 
ing to  his  father :  *  I  know,'  said  he,  *  that  Yoa  are  oar 
fSwA  God  and  our  Father,  therefore  am  I  oertain  Yoa 
will  confoond  those  who  persecute  Your  children.  The 
cause  is  Yours,  Lord;  we  could  not  help  doing  what  we 
hare  done.  It  is  for  Yon,  merdftil  Father,  to  protect  as.* 
Whilst  I  was  listening  to  him  fh>m  afiir,*'  says  J>ietriefa, 
**  pia^'iDg  with  a  clear  voice,  my  heart  burnt  with  joy 
within  me,  hearing  him  speak  to  God  with  so  much  for- 
your  and  confidence  t)iat  all  he  asked  would  be  granted 
and  accomplished." 

P.  A.  L. 

HOTCHPOT. 
(4»»»  S.  ix.  180,  248,  300,  374,  409.) 

Unless  Tewars  be  prepared  to  show  that  the 
words  prove  and  aeem  are  convertible  terms,  that 
is,  that  they  are  absolutely  equivalent  and  eqmpoi' 
lent,  I  humbly  submit  that  he  has  failed  to  proye, 
either  that  ^*  Mr.  Tew  haa  completely  misappre- 
hended the  passage  which  he  cfuotes  from  Bohun,*' 
or  that  his  *'note  is  positively  ludicrous.''  So 
much  I  will  take  leave  to  say,  that  whether  I 
have  misapprehended  Hohun  or  not,  or  how  ftur 
my  **  note  ''  may  be  "  ludicrous "  or  otherwise, 
there  can  bo  no  manner  of  question  that  Tewabs 
has  ''  completely,^'  I  will  not  say  wittingly,  mia- 
represented  me.  The  said  ^*  note  "  to  the  judg- 
ment (p.  248).  And  I  challenge  any  dispassionate 
reader  to  say,  that  in  it  I  quote  Bohun  as  proving 
anything,  or  that  I  myself  utter  a  syllablo  dog^ 
maticallg  on  the  question.  My  words  are  these — 
<<  From  this  it  would  seem  that  hotch-pot  was  a 
custom  confined  to  the  City  of  Liondon,"  relying 
upon  Bohun,  who  says,  '**It  is  said  to  be  the 
custom  of  London."  tie  certainly  does  not  say, 
*'  Confined  to  the  City  of  London,"  and  so  far  I 
may  have  overstepped  the  mark ;  but  as  his  book 
is  entitled  Priviiegia  Londmi,  the  inference  was 
not  unreasonable  that  he  intended  them  to  be 
understood  as  local  and  not  tiational.  It  might 
also  have  been  better,  if  instead  of  rejteal  I  had 
written  ditfu/te.  But  I  am  no  lawyer,  nor  pretend 
to  bo.  I  only  did  my  be3t,  and,  as  1  said,  extracted 
'^  the  quotation  as  furnishing  some  reply  to  Mb. 
CnATTOCK*s  query."  For  my  attempt  that  gen- 
tleman thanked  me,  so  I  presume  tnnt,  in  some 
sort,  it  was  a  satisfaction  to  him. 

As  to  dericatioM,  I  am  open  to  correction,  and 
upon  further  thought  and  research  am  inclined  to 
come  into  the  opinion  that  hodge-podge  is  rather 
the  primitive  than  the  derivative  of  hotch-pot.  In 
this  view  I  am  strengthened  by  Chambers,  who  in 
his  Cgclopadia,  1 738,  sub  voce,  writes,  ^*  Hotek^. 
pot,  or  Hodgepodge,  primarily  denotes  a  Flemish 
medley  dish  made  of  flesh  cut  in  pieces  and 
sodden  vrith  herbs,  roots,  &c." 

To  the  statement  that  this  term  ''  is  to  be  found 
in  every  marriage  settlement  of  the  present  day," 
I  demur  in  toto ;  fot  L  Vlv;%  %ft«^  \si«aK^  \a»rM^ 


512 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4<k  &  IX.  Jusc  S2, 7f . 


have  two  by  me  at  the  present  moznent|  in  none 
of  which  does  the  word  once  occur  from  the  be- 
ginning to  the  end. 

And  now,  how  ffir  soever  your' correspondent 
may  hold  to  his  opinion  thatmv  "  note"  is  ** posi- 
tively ludicr«>ua/'  I  hope  ho  will  admit  that  1  did 
not  **  miyapprehond  the  passage "  quoted  from 
}V)hun — much  less  tliat  I  had  any  intention  to 
garble  or  distort  it.  In  conclusion,  he  must  allow 
me  to  suggest  that  the  next  time  he  feels  called 
upon  to  piny  the  *•  Censor,  castigatorquc  "  over 
me,  ho  will  lirst  take  the  trouble  to  re-read  what 
1  havo  written,  and  to  quote  it  fairly  as  it  stands. 

Edmitn'd  Tew,  M.A. 

The  following  oxplauations  may  still  bo  of  use 
to  Mr.  Chattock  :  — 

**  IIoTcim^T,  a  commixture,  and  in  a  metaiihorical 
legal  sense  m  a  blcndin^^  or  mixin^j^  of  lands  given  in 
marriage  with  other  lands  in  fee  fallinf;  by  descent ;  as  if 
a  man  seised  of  thirty  acres  of  land  in  fee  hath  issue  only 
two  daughters,  and  he  ^ves  one  of  them  ten  acres  in 
marriage  to  the  man  that  marries  her,  and  dies  seised  of 
the  other  twenty  acres ;  now  shu  that  is  thus  married,  to 
gain  her  sliare  of  tlie  reiit  of  the  land,  must  put  her  part 
given  in  marriage  into  hotchpot ;  t.  e.  she  mu^<t  refuse  to 
take  the  Sdle  pr«)rtts  thereof,  and  cause  her  Innd  to  be 
mingled  with  th<'  other,  so  that  an  eriiial  division  may  be 
made  of  the  whole  between  her  and  her  leister,  as  if  none 
had  been  given  to  her :  and  thus  for  her  ten  acres  she 
shall  have  fifteen, otherwise  her  sister  will  have  the  twenty 
acres  of  which  hur  father  died  seised.    Litt.  55.  Co.  Lift, 
lib.  iii.  c.  ri,  anil  there  is  a  bringing  of  money  into  hatch' 
potf  upon  the  clauses  and  within  the  intent  of  the  statute 
of  distributions.    When  a  certain  .<um  is  to  be  raised  and 
paid  to  a  daughter  for  her  portion  by  a  marriage  settle- 
ment, this  has  l>een  decreed  to  be  an  advancement  bj'  the 
father  in  his  lite-time  within  the  meaning  of  the  statute, 
though  future  and  contingent ;  and  if  the  daughter  should 
have  anv  further  share  of  her  father*s  personal  estate,  she 
must  bnng  this  money  into  hotchj>ot^  and  shall  not  have 
both  the  one  and  the  other.    Ab.  C?u$,  Kq.  253;  2  Verit. 
638."     Page  152. — A  New  lAtw  Dictumary,  containing  a 
convhe  KxfwsUion  of  the  mere  Te.rmt  of  ff'it,  and  $uch 
obwlete  Words  as  occur  in  old  Lepoff  Historical,  and  Anti- 

Crian   Writers.     By  James  Wishaw,  Ksq.,  of  Gray** 
.    London,  1829."    8vo. 

I  transcribe  another  explanation,  as  it  may  be 
thought  to  allbrd  not  altogether  a  bad  illustration 
of  the  thing  itself: — 

"  IIotchtHit  est  vn  medling  on  mixing  ensemble,  Sc  vn 
partition  de  terres  done  en  Frankmarriage,  ouesque  anter 
terres  en  fee  simple  discendus.  Come  par  exemnlc  :  vn 
home  seisic  de  30.  acres  <le  terro  en  fee  simple^  ad  issue  2 
files,  &  done  ouesque  vn  de  ses  fdes  al  vn  home  quo  lue 
-  marrie  10.  acres  de  ccs  terre  en  frankemarriage,  d;  monist 
seisio  de  les  auters  10.  acres:  Ore  si  el  que  est  isaint 
marrie  voilloit  auer  ascun  part  de  les  20.  acres  de  qne  son 
pere  morust  seihie  :  el  doit  mis  scs  terres  done  en  frank- 
mariage  en*  Hotchpot,  ceo  e.it  adire,  el  doit  refuser  de 
prendei  e  soie  profile  de  terre  done  en  frankemarriage,  & 
suffer  le  terre  de  est  re  commixt  &  mingle  ensemble 
ouesque  le  auter  terre  dc  que  son  pere  morust  seisie, 
iasint  que  vn  efpiall  diuision  poit  estre  fait  dc  lent^^er 
perenter  luy  et  sa  soer.  Kt  issint  pur  sa  10.  acres,  et 
Mnen  15.  adterment  sa  soer  voit  auter  auer  les  20.  acres, 
de  que  Jour  pere  m(»riist  seisie."    1*.  •220,— L«t  Termet  de 


la  Ley :  or,  Certaime  Difieult  mmd  Obeagre  Werde  and 
Termei  of  the  Comimom  LawtM  of  Ud$  Reaiwu  expotmded," 
Small  8vo»  London,  tGI4. 

Cowell's  definition  sbould  hardly  be  omitted : — 

**HMehepot  (m  paHOn  pontio)  is  a  wold  that  oommeth 
out  of  the  Low  Countries,  where  {Hmitfjot)  ognifieth 
flesh  cut  into  prety  pieces,  and  sodden  with  herbes  or 
roots,  not  unlike  that  which  the  Romanes  called  farragi' 
nem.  Festms.  Li<//eton  saith  that  litterallj  it  aignifieth  a 
padding  mixed  of  divers  ingredients :  bnt  metaphoricallT 
a  commixtion,  or  putting  together  of  lands,  for  the  cqnall 
division  of  them  l)eing  so  put  together.  ExamplesTon 
have  divers  in  him,  ful.  55,  and  seeSnton.yW.  119.  There 
is  in  the  Civill  Uw  CoUatio  bomtrum  answerable  unto  it, 
whereby  if  a  childe  advanced  by  the  father  in  hia  lift 
time,  doe  after  his  father*8  decease,  chalenge  a  childs  park 
with  the  rest,  hee  must  cast  in  all  that  formerly  hee  had 
recevcd,  and  then  take  out  an  equall  share  with  the  others. 
De  Coliatio  Bonorum,  lib.  37,  tUuh  6.*'— 7^  InUrpreUr, 
or  Booke  containing  the  Signification,  of  Worde,  410,  1678. 

The  following,  after  all,  seems  to  contain  the  gist 
of  the  matter :  — 

"  HoT(.iir<)T,  a  legal  pot,  into  which  yon  are  to  throw 
vour  Isharc,  and  then  divide  equally.*'—^  Lacomie  amd 
'Comic  Law  DicHonarv,  with  JvoteM,  By  William  Cot^ 
field,  Gent.,  One,  &c    London,  1856,  8vo. 

WiLLIAK  BATBIk 
Birmingham. 

BURLEY  FAMILY. 
(4«»»  S.  ix.  404.) 

I  have  a  few  notes  of  this  family,  taken  from 
the  Puhlic  Records,  which  I  forwaid  in  the  hope 
that  Mr.  Grazebrook  may  find  them  uaeful  in 
the  elucidation  of  his  pedigree. 

Alice  Burley, — J.  P.  M.  Alidse  Arundel,  15  H. 
VI.,  27.  Reversion  of  estates  to  Will.  Burley, 
son  and  heir  of  John  R .  son  of  said  Alice.  Will. 
B.,  son  and  heir  of  said  Alice,  aged  fifteen  and 
upwards.  Alice  died  Friday  after  St  Bartholo- 
mew, anno  14  [Aug.  31,  14361  (Inq.  taken  at 
Wehlcy,  Nov.  1,  anno  16.)  Alice  died  Aug.  2 
last  [1430].  (Inq.  taken  at  Lederede,  Oct.  26, 
anno  15.^ 

Beatrice  Burley. — Pardon  to  Beatrix  Rooa  of 
Ilamlake  for  her  marriage  with  Ric  de  Barley, 
Chr'.  Aug.  20, 1385.  {Rot.  Pat.  0  R.  IL,  Part  1,) 
— Widow  of  Maurice  Fitz  Maurice,  Earl  of  Des- 
mond; royal  assent  to  her  marriage  with  Tha 
hrother  of  Will,  de  Ros,  Jan.  1, 13£&.  (i&  32  £. 
III.,  Part  2.)— Tho.  le  Roos  of  Hamlake,  and 
Beatrice  his  wife.  Countess  of  Desmond.  Sept  4, 
1350.  {Ih.  33  £.  III.,  Part  2.)— Beatrix  Domim 
de  Roos  de  Ilamlake,  defuncta.  July  8,  1410. 
{Ih.  7  H.  V.)— Dame  Beatrix,  wife  of  Sir  Richazd 
Beverley,  and  after  fhefore,  V.S.]  of  Thomas  Lord 
Roos,  [buried]  in  the  chapel  of  St  John  Baptiit 
[St  PauVs  Cathedral],  1400.  (Stew's  CoUectaons, 
Ilari.  MS.  544,  foL  4(),  b.)— Died  3  H.  V.  (HarL 
MS.  204,  fol.  14.)~Daughter  of  Earl  Stafford. 


4*  S,  IX.  JoHK  22, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


513 


John  Burley,-^To  John  de  B.,  sent  upon  secret 
matters  of  the  king,  13/.  68.  Sd,  Dec.  23.  (Itot. 
JEx.j  Michs.  61  E.  IIL) — Johan  de  B.,  fils  Roger, 
coeyn  et  heir  Simotind  de  B.,  Chr*.  July  8, 1&7. 
(Bot.  Pat.  8  H.  IV.,  Part  2.)— Sir  John  Burley 
or  Beverle  and  Anne  his  wife,  [buried]  St.  Eras- 
mus' Chapel  [Westminster  Abbey].  j(Harl.  MS. 
544,  fol.  78.) 

Bichard  Burley, -- John  of  Gaunt  to  John  de 
Yerdebureh,  Clerk  of  his  Wardrobe:  order  to 
send  certain  articles  of  jewellery  to  him  at  [(jy. 
Dover ;  MS.  defective]  by  the  bearer  of  the  mis- 
sive J  but  if  Yerdeburgh  doubt  the  bearer's  care- 
fulness, he  must  then  send  them  by  Mons.  Ric.  de 
Bureley  or  some  other  safe  messenger.  Oct.  22, 
anno  49  [1376].  {Begider,  vol.  i.,  fol.  229.)— A 
hanap  with  a  cover,  of  silver,  given  to  Mons.  Ric. 
de  B.    May  0,  anno  5  [1382].    (J^.  ii.  61.) 

Simon  de  Burley, — A  silver  hanap  to  Mons. 
Sjrmon  Burley,  Apr.  13,  anno  47  ri3731  (Be- 
gxtter  of  John  of  Gaunt,  i.  194.) — S.  de  Burleffh, 
custodian  of  the  Count  of  St  Pol  of  France,  the 
king's  prisoner,  27  Apr.  1379.  (Bot,  Ex.,  Pasc. 
2  R.  11.)— lb.,  Nov.  20,  1379.  (J^.,  Michs.)— 
Sent  from  the  king  to  the  kings  of  the  Romans 
and  Bohemia,  on  certain  arduous  and  secret  nego- 
ciations  touching  the  Lord  King  [about  his  mar- 
riage with  Anne  of  Bohemia],  i6  June.  (76., 
Pasc.  3  R,  n.) — S.  de  B.,  Locumtenens  of  Hugh 
Fastolf,  Constable  of  Dover,  July  11,  1384.)  A, 
Pasc.,  8  R.  II.)— S.  de  B.,  Kt,  Custodian  of  the 
king's  castle  of  Dover,  May  1, 1386,  and  Dec  21. 
(lb.  and  Michs.  9  R.  II.) 

From  the  manner  in  which  their  names  are 
mentioned,  there  can  be  little  doubt  that  both 
Richard  and  Simon  were  in  the  service  of  John  of 

Gaunt.  H£RK£KTRUDE. 


^ 


Allow  me  to  correct  two  errors  in  mv  note  on 
.  464.    For  "1516"    read  "1446  (24  Henry 
T)";  and  for  "15  Henry  VII.,"  read    "14 
Henry  VI." 

The  post-mortem  inquest  on  Alice  Arundel  was 
taken  in  the  15th  of  Ilenry  VI.,  but  she  died  on 
Thursday  after  the  feast  of  St.  Bartholomew  in 
the  \ith  of  that  reign.  II.  S.  G. 


IRISH  PROVINCIALISMS. 
(4*»»  S.  ix.  404,  475.) 

Banagher  is  a  parish  situated  partly  in  the  barony 
of  Kenaught,  and  partly  in  that  of  Tirkeeran,  co. 
Londonderry.  The  saying, "  That  bangs  Banagher, 
and  Banagher  beats  the  world,"  probably  had  its 
origin  from  the  following  superstition: — In  Ban- 
agher churchyard  there  is  a  curious  tomb  erected 
to  the  memory  of  St.  Muireadach  O'Heney,  who  is 
said  to  have  founded  the  church.  This  tomb,  which 
18  of  considerable  size,  was  built  in  the  eleventh 


century,  and  is,  I  believe,  the  most  perfect  speci- 
men of  the  kind  to  be  met  vrith  in  Ireland.  It 
was,  and  is  still,  held  in  great  veneration  by  the 
peasantry,  who  believe  that  the  sand  adjacent  to 
it  is  possessed  of  extraordinary  virtue.  AlS  late 
as  the  end  of  the  last  century,  when  horse-racing 
and  cock-fighting  were  so  much  in  vogue,  this 
sand  was  held  in  high  esteem  by  most  sporting, 
and  a  great  many  non-sporting,  men  throughout 
Ireland. 

Persons  who  came  to  Banagher  for  sand,  on 
approaching  the  tomb,  put  up  a  short  petition  to 
tne  saint;  then  in  his  name  some  of  the  precious 
earth  was  lifted,  and  thev  proceeded  cheerfully 
home,  nothing  doubting ;  but  it  was  making  as- 
surance doubly  sure  if  any  one  bearing  the  name 
of  the  saint  could  be  obtained  to  lift  the  sand« 
Some  of  the  saint's  namesakes  did  not  neglect  to 
take  advantage  of  this,  and  were  well  paid  for 
their  services.  When  the  race-horse  and  nis  rider 
were  leaving  the  stable,  three  handfuls  of  this 
sand  were  cast  over  each  in  the  name  of  the  saint, 
This  was  believed  not  only  to  insure  the  success 
of  the  horse,  but  it  also  preserved  him  from  beinff 
"  overlooked,"  or.  in  other  words,  from  the  blinS 
of  an  evil  eve.  The  Irish  were  always  v6ry  super- 
stitious, ana  it  relieved  them  of  much  anxiety  to 
know  tnat  their  horses  were  proof  agunst  witch- 
craft, necromancy,  and  all  tne  arts  of  the  devil. 
In  the  seventeenth  century,  if  a  good  horse  which 
had  not  been  sprinkled  with  this  sand  lost  the 
race,  he  was  said  to  be"  "overlooked"  or  be- 
witched ;  but  if  he  were  sprinkled  with  the  sand, 
the  horse  which  had  beaten  him  was  said  to 
"bang  Banagher";  and  Banagher,  or  rather  the 
horse  under  tne  protection  of  Banagher  sand,  was 
said  to  '^  beat  the  devil ";  therefore,  the  man  who 
owned  the  unsuccessful  horse  had  to  acknowledge 
that  he  was  fairlv  beaten.  He  could  not  plead  as 
an  excuse  that  his  horse  was  "  overlooked,"  and 
so  to  this  day  the  expression  used  among  the 
peasantry  is,  "That  bangs  Banaffher,  and  Banagher 
beats  the  devil."  As  a  rule,  I  believe  that  horses 
sprinkled  with  the  sand  did  win  the  race;  not 
from  any  virtue  in  the  sand,  but  it  inspired  the 
rider  with  confidence  that  he  was  safe  to  win. 

Many  of  the  farmers  in  the  neighbourhood  at 
the  present  day  firmly  believe  in  the  sand*s  virtue, 
though  they  are  ashamed  to  own  it ;  but  entre- 
nouSf  some  of  them  never  go  tp  a  ploughing  match 
without  having  a  little  of  the  sand  secreted  about 
their  plough,  and  they  invariably  carry  off  some 
of  the  prizes. 

As  to  the  second  expression,  "As  black  as  Tode*8 
(toad's,  or  Todd's^  cloak,"  I  have  heard  it  above  a 
thousand  times,  out  I  never  heard  it  pronounced 
exactly  as  Mb.  Skiptov  has  written  it.  Near 
the  town  of  Derry  it  is  pronounced  Tole[i  and 
TooTs  cloak  •,  Tveax«t  \a  >}cskft  xs^sssssJuKfiB.^  ^^.  >^  -^^^r- 


514 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


[4tk  S.  IX.  Joxc  »,  71 


correct,  as  the  original  Dame  in  Irish  is  Tuathtdj 
Anglic^  Tool,  Tuathal  Teachlmhar  begfan  to  reiffn 
o^er  Irchmd  a.d.  70  or  7i).  He  had  two  daugh- 
ters, Dairine  and  Fithir,  the  most  accomplished 
and  handsome  young  ladies  in  Ireland.  The  King 
of  Leinster  sought  and  obtaiued  the  elder  sister 
in  marriopo ;  but,  for  pomer  reason  or  reasons  known 
only  to  himself,  ho  repented  of  this  step  in  less 
than  a  year  after  their  union.  Ha  therefore  went 
to  her  lather's  palace  at  Tani,  and,  with  a  sorrow- 
ful countenance,  told  King  Tuathal  that  his 
daughter  Dnirine  was  dead;  and  earnestly  im- 
plored him  to  bestow  upon  liini  her  younger 
sister,  as  the  only  means  oi  repairing  his  grievous 
loss. 

King  Tuathal  complied  with  his  request,  and 
the  fair  princess  Fithir  was  delivered  to  the  King 
of  Leinster,  who  conveyed  her  to  his  palace.  On 
her  arrival  she  found  Dairine  alive:  overcome  with 
grief  and  shame,  she  died  instantly.  The  dis- 
tracted Dairine  threw  herself  upon  the  lifeless 
body  of  her  sister,  and  expired.  When  King 
Tuathal  heard  of  the  tragical  death  of  his  children, 
ho  called  his  nobles  and  their  followers  together, 
marched  into  Leinster  with  firo  and  swora,  and, 
after  committing  dreadful  havoc,  he  compelled 
the  faithless  king  and  his  unf<»rtunate  people  to 
bind  themselves  by  a  solemn  engagement  to  pay 
him  and  his  successors  for  ever  a  chief  rent  or 
tax  called  Boiroimhe  Ijt\'jlit''in.  Thi.^  tax  was  to 
be  paid  in  ciittk*,  tilver,  maidens,  &c.,  besides 
threescore  hundred  niantl»'.=*  or  clonks  (.s^^e  O'Con-* 
nofs  Ketding,  .Mnl  edit.,  17.!><,  pp.  iMl>-2()).  This 
tiix  was  actually  paid  evory  .■^••cond  year  during 
the  reigns  of  forty  of  King  TunthaVs  successors. 
Tliu:*,  for  .some  centurie.s,  these  uiantles  or  ch^aks 
were  regularly  sent  to  the  north  nf  Ireland,  and  it 
is  not  to  be  wondered  at  that  thev  soon  came  to 
be  known  as  Tuathal's  cloaks,  'rhen  as  to  the 
colour,  Giraldus  Cambri^nsis  says  that,  in  his  time, 
"  the  Irish  were  but  lightly  clad  in  woollen  gar- 
ments, barbarously  shaped,  fur  tho  mo.<t  part 
black,  bocau?e  the  sheep  of  the  C'»untry  are  black" 
(Ledwich's  IrUh  Ant.,  p.  ii'W). 

The  Scotch  Highlanders,  who  were  engaged  in 
)«.*rpetual  rapine,  in  order  to  conceal  themselves, 
lyed  their  garments  tartan  and  purple,  or  as  near 
a  heather  tint  as  possible:  and  tli*.'  Irish,  for  the 
same  reason,  dyed  their  garment.^  black,  as  the 
bogs  werf-  tlieir  constant  retreat  (i-.edwich,  p.  030; 
Piorlajse's  Irinh  litLrHion,  p.  7^)).  Again  we  read 
that  *•  thft  Irish  dye  their  garments  black  with 
the  bark  of  treos,  called  by  the  Enprlish  alders " 
(Gough's  Camdtiis  Britanuio,  iii.  (>o8). 

From  these  writers  and  some  others  I  infer  that 
the  cloaks  sent  into  Ulster  to  Jobh  O'Neill  were 
black :  hence  the  saying  "  As  black  as  Tuathal's 
cloak.'* 

The  only  remarkable  thing  I  have  ever  heard 
About  the' clock  of  Strabane  Lh,  that  \t  fttc^V 


thirteen  the  day  on  which  the  celebmted  M^ao^ 
tan  was  hanged,  which  eirent  took  place  aboit 
one  hundred  and  twelve  yean  aga 

A  larpe  pin  ia  commonlj  called  *'  a  big  atab" 
in  derision,  as  '*  I  asked  het  for  a  pin,  and  ihe 
gave  me  such  a  bi^  stab !  *' — ^that  amply  meani 
that  she  gave  the  pin,  but  did  not  stab  mj  one. 
During  the  summer  months  herd  boja  and  girb 
sometimes  go  barefooted,  and  it  is  oomaaon  to  ice 
them  hobbling  along  quite  lame.  On  aaldng  what 
is  the  matter  with  them,  they  invariably  anaw«|  . 
'^I  have  got  a  hiy  stab  of  a  thorn  in  me  fat" — 
that  indicates  that  the  thorn  is  not  yet  eztmcted. 
They  do  not  say  a  thorn  has  stabbed  me ;  their 
expfesftion  is^  "  A  stab  of  a  thorn  has  ran  into  me 
fut.*'  This  IS  simply  a  figure  of  speech,  wbenbj 
the  name  is  transierred  from  the  wound  made  to 
the  thing  which  caused  the  wound.  I  have  no 
doubt  that  this  mode  of  expression  is  common  in 
other  districts  as  well  as  Berry.  I  noticed  in  a 
Liverpool  paper  to-day  that  the  proprietor  of  a 
yen'  respectable  hotel  has  advertised  for  ''an 
active  waiter,  a  vegetable  maid,''  &c.  I  cannot 
believe  that  the  advertiser  will  get  a  maid  entirely 
composed  of  vegetables — the  very  most  he  can 
expect  is  one  with  a  head  like  a  cabbage. 

CuMEB  O'LTnr. 

1  beg  leave  to  confirm  the  remark  of  J.  Gk.  R. 
that  '*  That  beats  Banagher "  is  not  peculiar  to 
Ireland.  My  father,  a  Lancashire  man,  waa  never 
in  Ireland  in  his  life ;  and  I  dare  say  that  I  have 
heard  the  phrasrC  from  him  a  hundrell  times. 

IIerhes  tkude. 


s:^ 


Troy  Weigut  (4«''  S.  ix.  447.}— 7V«y-tr«>A<. 
"  anciently  called  tronc-iccit/ht"  from  '*  trona,  an 
old  word  for  a  beam  to  weigh  withal.'*  See 
Chambers'' s  CyclopatUa,  sub  voce. 

Eduuvd  Tsw,  M^. 

"  I  Kxow  A  Hawk  from  a  IIasusaw  "  (4*  3. 
ix.  'JoS.) — This  is  the  phrase  as  it  appears  in 
Ilamlet.  Handsaw  is  given  in  the  text  by  Malone, 
Collier,  Dyce,  and  Ciark  and  Wright.  "Warbur- 
ton  states  that  the  above  was  a  common  proverbial 
speech,  and  that  the  poet  found  the  proverb  thus 
corrupte'l :  and  Collier,  that  "  it  is  very  likely,  as 
Sir  T.  Ilaumer  suggested,  that  'hsndsaw'is  a 
corruption  of  hirfishaw,  i.e.  a  heron ;  but  it  is  an 
old  corruption,  and  the  expression,  '  I  know  a 
hawk  from  a  handsaw,'  was  proverbial  in  tha  time 
of  Shakespeare.'*  Y.  C.  £. 

'*  He  knows  a  hawk  from  a  hemshaw,"  ahonld 
be  intelligible  to  a  Warwickshire  sportsman.  It 
is  about  the  same  as  sajinff,  he  Imowa  a  homd 
from  a  hare.  '*  Her'n  "  m  tnis  countr  has  altnjs 
been  a  most  common  contraction  m  ''haroa." 
I  "  Shaw ''  is  from  Sax.  Kuwa^  a  shady  ]dace,  a  IxnaL 


\ 


«i\^  ^  vc^^^ssStso!^  "bKODA  Vr  ^.'^^m^  «Dd  ill  CUb 


4»»>S.  IX.  Junk  22, '72. J 


NOTES  AND  QUEEIES. 


515 


case  means  the  cover  or  heronry,  such  always  being 
upon  the  tail  end  of  a  pool,  abutting  or  backing 
up  into  a  wood,  or  the  oend  in  a  river  similarly 
situated.  The  heron  was,  perhaps,  the  largest 
bird  that  the  hawk  was  trained  to  attack.  The 
cart  is  doubtless  placed  before  the  horse  in  "  hem- 
shaw,"  •*  shaw  heron  ''=  "  wood  heron,'' by  the  in- 
nate propensity  we  possess  for  using  words  with  the 
same  initial  letters,  when  coining  a  phrase  ex- 
pressive of  similarity  or  dissimilarity,  thus :  '*He 
fjopt  about  like  a  joarched  ;^ea,"  "  as  different  as 
chalk  from  cheese,"  &c.  It  is  an  ironical  saying, 
and  means  that  the  person  referred  to  is  very 
clever,  or,  as  the  late  Albert  Smith's  gents  would 
say,  "lie  knows  a  hound  from  a  hare  rather.** 
This,  Mr.  Editor,  is  my  maiden  effort  in  Shak- 
speriana,  a  word  I  heartily  detest,  not  on  account 
of  what  I  have  read,  but  on  account  of  what  I 
have  been  unable  to  read  under  that  heading.  I 
know  from  family  tradition  that  this  is  the  true 
meaning  of  the  quotation.  C.  Chattock, 

Castle  Broinwich. 

''And    leaves    tue  World  to  Darkness," 

ETC.  (4*'»  S.  ix.  40G.) — Mr.  IIule  charges  the 

poet    Gray   with    plagiarism,    an    offence   often 

perpetrated  unconsciously  in  poetics,  but  anyhow 

to  be  lamented.     In  the  first  two  iustaucefi  the 

resemblance  is  so  slight  as  to  call  for  no  particular 

notice;  but  in  the  last,  when  he  accuses  Gray 

thus :  — 

"  Gray  committed  another  potty  literary  larceny  in  the 
line 

"*  And  K-aves  the  world  to  darkness  and  to  me,' 

which  is  evidently  parodied  from 

**  *  And  leave  the  worlti  to  wretchedness  and  me.'  '* 

(See  the  •*  Beg{;nr'8  Petition.") 

I  would  a.sk  Mr.  TIule  how  he  explains  thiji, 
the  £lefft/  having  been  published  in  1751,  and  the 
poem  of  Moss  in  ITCO.  Ipswich. 

The  Symiiol  of  Peage  (4*''  S.  ix.  429.)— I 
think  the  "  wife  of  Bath  "  must  have  mistaken  the 
purport  of  the  brush  placed  outside  a  house  dur- 
ing a  neij(hbour's  quarrel.  At  any  'rate  in  some 
Derbyshire  villages  the  rearing  up  outside  the 
Louse  of  a  broom  is  a  declaration  of  war,  and  a 
sign  of  the  most  supreme  contempt  of  one  person 
for  anuthor,  and  a  general  proclamation  to  the 
neighbourhood  that  the  parties  who  have  quar- 
relled are  determined  *^  to  have  it  out "'  on  the 
earliest  opportunity.  Two  women  will  disagree, 
and  words  will  be  bandied  until  a  tempest  is 
raised  ;  then  tiie  one  who  is  getting  the  worst  of 
it  will  fetch  out  her  mop  or  long  brush,  and  rear 
it  up  against  the  wall  outside  her  doorway,  retir- 
ing indoors  herself.  JShe  will,  however,  keep  her 
ears  opeu  and  an  eye  upon  her  **  representative  " 
outside  to  see  that  the  opposing  pi^y  does  not 
make  off  with  it,  having  ready  a  pail  of  not 


the  cleanest  water  with  which  to  souse  any  per- 
son making  the  attenipt  The  other  side  will 
also  put  out  her  mop  or  broom,  and  both  belli- 
gerents will  indulge  in  '^jawing  bouts"  during 
the  day.  The  "  representatives"  will  be  kept  out 
until  dusk,  to  be  again  put  in  position  the  next 
day.  One  point  is  to  have  the  ''declaration 
of  war ''  early,  so  that  the  first  object  seen  will  be 
a  reminder  to  both  sides  that  the  case  in  point 
still  requires  settlement.  Sometimes  when  feel- 
ing and  words  run  high,  the  whole  "sweeping 
invective"  resources  of  each  household  will  be 
brought  into  requisition,  and  mop,  besom,  long- 
brush,  hand-brush,  and  dust-pan  are  piled  up 
against  the  walL  This  occasionally  goes  on  for 
several  days,  and  perhaps  the  interference  of  the 
parish  constable  is  requisite  before  peace  is  esta- 
olished  and  the  ''  sweeping  invectives  "  are  with- 
drawn. Thos.  Ratclipfe. 

"  Brashals  "  (4«»»  8.  ix.'487.)— "  A  pair  of  bra- 
shals  to  play  at  ballon  "  must  be,  L  think,  the 
Anglicised  form  of ''  a  pair  of  bracciali,  or  bracelets, 
to  play  at  pdUcne.*^  On  referring  ta  an  old  jonr- 
nal  of  about  forty  years*  standing,  kept  at  Florence^ 
I  find  the  following  entry : — 

• 

**  In  our  retom  (from  a  ride  towards  Fiesole)  went  to 
the  Pallone  Court  It  is  a  ^Icndid  game  played  with 
larj^e  balls,  fdled  -with  air  by  a  forcing-pamp,  and  struck 
badcwardsand  forwards  between  six  antagonists,  three  tm 
each  side  of  a  line,  whose  anus  are  furnished  with  an 
ahgalar  shield  of  wood  fitted  with  thick-set  spikes  of  the 
same  material,  and  resembling  somewhat  in  appearance 
the  cones  of  the  stone-pine.  The  force  and  certainty  with 
which  the  players  strike  is  quite  extraordinary." 

C.  W.  BUTQHAIC. 

Lords  ov  Brecon  (4***  S.  ix.  445.) — If  H.  A. 
DE  Salis  will  look  into  Joneses  Hidt)ry  of  Breck^ 
nockshire  she  will  probably  find  what  she  wants. 

O.  W. 

The  pedi^ee  of  Blethin  ap  Maynarch  is  to  be 
found  in  Williams*s  Hidory  of  monmouthskirty 
appendix,  pp.  104-t').  G.  M.  T. 

Nicholas  de  Meaux  (4'*» S.  ix.  387.)— -A.  E.  L. 
does  not  seem  to  have  realised  all  the  difficulties 
of  the  chronology  of  the  episcopate  of  Bishop 
Nicholas.  Beck,  of  whose  AmuUes  Fumensia 
only  250  copies  were  printed,  says  that,  before 
joining  the  Cistercians  of  Meaux,  !^^ichoUls  was  a 
canon  of  the  priory  of  Wartre,  which  we  learn  from 
Tanner  belonged  to  the  regular  canons  of  St 
Augustine.  lie  further  adds  that,  according  to 
the  Pipe  Roll,  ho  presented  to  King  John  in  the 
fourth  year  of  his  reign  the  sum  of  forty  shillings. 
There  is  a  letter  of  Pope  Honorius  III.,  dated 
Majr  15,  1224,  to  the  Archbishop  of  York,  in 
which  he  ^ves  that  prelate  authority  to  decide 
on  the  petition  of  Nicholas,  Bishon  of  Man,  to  Vm 
xelieved  firom  bis  diocese,  to  wbicn  he  could  not 
return  on  account  of  the  opposition  offered  to  l;usa> 


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NOTES  AND  QUEKIES. 


[4<i>  8.  IX.  JusB  S3,  72. 


and  from  which  ho  had  long  been  an  exile.    His 
petition  seems  to  have  been  granted,  for  there  is  a 


To  me  it  appears  that,  in  order  to  reconcile  these 
diiiicultieSy  we  must  suppose  that  th^^e  were  two 
bishops  of  tlie  name,  the  first  of  whom  died  in 
1217|  and  the  second  resigned  after  12lU,  but 
before  11227.  B.  L. 

Faed's  Picture  op  Walter  Scott  axd  nis 
Friends  (4**»  S.  ix.  405.) — Mr.  Cochrane  or  his 
informer  is  in  error  respecting  the  names  of  per- 
sons introduced  in  this  picture.  "Who,  for  exam- 
ple, were  Sir  W.  Ferguson  and  Sir  A.  Constable  P 
As  to  Lord  Byron,  auv  one  with  the  mast  imper- 
fect vision  could  easily  di.«cover  that  he  is  not 
there.  The  engraving  of  Faed's  painting,  now 
before  me,  represents  the  following:  (my  list  com- 
mencing from  the  right  hand) : — James  Hogg,  Sir 
Walter  Scott,  Bart.,  Henry  Mackenzie,  author  of 
the  iMau  of  Feeling^  Professor  Wilson,  George 
Orabbo;  John  (libson  Lockhart,  William  Words- 
worth, Francis  Jellrey,  Sir  Adam  Ferguson, 
Thomas  Moore,  Thomas>  Campbell,  Archibald 
Constable,  the  publisher,  James  iUllautyne,  the 
printer,  and  Thomas  Thomson;  while  in  the  back- 
^ound  are  Sir  Humphrey  Davy,  who  is  examin- 
ing a  sword,  and  the  painters  Sir  i)avid  Wilkie 
imd  Sir  William  Allan.  In  a  former  list  of  the 
persons  represented  in  Faed's  picture  contributed 
to  "  N.  &  y."  (iJ'"*  S.  xi.  520)  I  find  tliat  I  have 
erroneously  given  the  names  of  William  Adam  and 
Sir  Henry  Jardine  for  those  of  Thomson  and 
Davy.  Charles  Kouers. 

Snuwdouu  Villa,  Lewisliam,  S.K. 

Heraldic  (4»»»  S.  ix.  300.)— In  answer  to  W. 
M.  H.  C,  the  coat,  gules  on  a  ia^^a  argent  be- 


1080,  fo.  4;55^  H.  S.G. 

Pontiff  (4*»»  S.  ix.  44G.WLongfellow  refers  to 
the  derivation  of  the  word  from  pons  and  facer e 
in  the  following  lines : — 

"  Well  ha.4  the  name  of  Pontifcx  Injen  given 
Unto  the  Church's  head,  as  the  chief  builder 
And  Architect  of  the  invisible  bridge 
That  leads  from  earth  to  heaven." 

The  Golden  Legend^  v. 

Sparks  H.  Williams. 

BucKDEN:  Chek'r  (4*'»  S.  ix.  350.)— It  may 

help  the  inquirer  to  know  that  there  is  a  room  at 

New  College,  Oxford,  called  "  the  Chequer,'*  *'  so 

styled,"  says  Mr.  W^alcott,  "  from  some  peculiar 

ornament  or  device,  or  from  being  the  place  of 

pajrment  of  Tenia  ot  service."    Tne  trei£.tioiv  in 

the  College  alwaja  pointed  to  tbe  \all&i  eiiy- 

mology.  C.  \V.  BiiSQHkU, 


''  Sold  "  (4^  S.  ix.  446.)— It  is  more  than  two 
years  since  I  marked  this  word  as  used  in  ^a2poM 
in  the  sense  noted  by  W^  P.  P.,  but  as  yet  I  have 
not  met  with  any  other  instance  of  like  a^.  It 
seems  to  me,  however,  that  it  6nds  its  ongin  ia 
some  such  phrase  as  that  in  Bichard  111. — 
**  For  Dickon  thy  master  is  bought  and  taldP 

I  say  this  because  in  such  buying  and  selling  the 
person  is  either  taken  to  be  a  chattel  or  bestial, 
or  more  probably  one  of  the  confraternity  of 
naturals  or  idiots  who — their  property  being  ^orth 
it — were  bought  and  sold  through  three  or  four 
under- wanlships.  B.  NicnoLsoir. 

The  full  form  of  the  phrase  seems  to  be ''  boucht 

and  sold,"  which  occurs  several  times  in  ShaJke- 

spearc — 

"  For  Dickon  thv  master  is  booRht  and  «o/cl.** 

A'.  Hickard  1 11^  V.  3. 

**....  thou  art  l)ou;;ht  and  inld  among  those  of  any 
wit,  like  a  Uarlmriau  slave." 

TroUuM  and  Creuidti,  H.  1. 

•■  "  Whitlier  mv  lord  ?    from  bought  and  Moid    Lord 
Talbot.  '—Irf  K:neur:,  T/.,  IV.  4. 

"It  vroiiM  make  a  mnn  mad  as  a  back  to  bo  so  boaght 
and  fdW." — Comrdy  of  Error  $t  HI.  1. 

"  rh\  noble  Kiii;Ii»h.  vou  are  bought  and  »t%ld7* 

K.  John,  V.  4. 

Compare  Costard's  phra.«e,  "  to  sell  a  bargain," 

in  Love  n  Labour  f  Loitf  HI.  1 : — 

**  The  bny  hath  sold  him  a  barf^ain,  a  goose,  that*s  flat : 
Sir,  ynur  ixnnywurth  is  good,  an  your  goo^  be  faL 
To  M?1I  a  bargain  well,  ia  as  cunning  as  fast  and 
loose.*' 

JoH5  Addis,  M.A. 

loLANTRK  (4**»  S.  ix.  407,  476.) — lolanthe,  Jo- 
Innta,  lolande,  are  only  medin^val  variationa  of 
the  Spanish  name  Violante,  which  has  been  boxne 
by  many  persons.  Your  correspondent  will  there- 
fore see  that  to  ask  *'  Who  was  lolanthe  ?  "  ad- 
mits of  as  little  answer  as  if  he  had  asked  **  Who 
was  Alice  ?  "  or  any  other  common  Christian 
name.  There  have  Seen  so  many  lolanthes,  none 
of  whom  were  pre-eminently  distin^iished,  that 
no  more  definite  reply  can  well  be  given. 

IIERME5TRT7DX. 

Sir!  Robert  Attous  (4**  S.  ix.  350.)— The 
edition  of  Sir  Robert  Aytoun  which  I  publiahed 
in  1844,  to  which  the  editor  refers,  was  a  veij 
juvenile  performance,  having  been  executed  in  my 
eighteenth  year.  In  1871  I  contributed  to  the 
TrannacHoni  of  the  Historical  Societif  a  more  de- 
tuled  account  of  Aytoun,  with  an  aocuimtaly 
revised  text  of  his  poems,  both  English  and  Latin. 
For  this  edition  I  had  been  collecting  matoriab 
for  twenty- five  years ;  and  havinff  examined  erwr 
lUcely  source  of  information,  botn  public  ud  pn« 
Tate,  I  feel  satisfied  that  I  have  exhausted  raj 
«v][b^«el.     Not  a  few  of  Aytoon's  ▼Qtaea  an  onif- 


4«k  8.  IX  JoiiB  22,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


517 


younger  son  of  Aytoun  of  Kinaldie;  Fifesbire. 
From  a  branch  of  the  family,  the  Ay  touns  of  Inch- 
daimie  (now  represented  by  Rop;er  S.  Aytoun, 
Esq.,  M.P.)»  sprung  my  late  mgenious  friend  Pro- 
fessor William  Edmonstoune  Aytoun  of  Edin- 
burgh. For  public  convenience  I  have  done  up 
separately  a  hundred  and  fifty  copies  of  my  late 
edition  of  Sir  II.  Aytoun's  poems.  A  copy  will 
be  found  in  the  Museum.  Charles  Rogrbs. 
Snowdoon  Villa,  Lewisham,  S.E. 

Mb.  Kbtt  of  Trinity,  Oxfobd  (4^**  S.  ix.  370, 

448.) — Mr.  G.  V.  Cox,  in  his  JRecoUections  of  Ox' 

fordf  has  a  short  notice  of  Mr.  Kett     He  says : — 

"  1793,  Oct.  27.  A  contest  took  place  for  the  Poetry 
Professorship  between  Mr.  Kett  of  Trinity,  who  had 
preached  the  Bampton  Lectnres  in  1790,  and  Mr.  Hardis 
of  Magdalen,  the  author  of  some  pleasing  but  not  first- 
rate  poems,  and  a  trairedv  entitled  Sir  Thomoi  More, 
Hardis  had  201  votes,  Kett  181." 

Then  in  a  foot-note  he  adds — 

*'  Mr.  Kett  was  also  the  author  of  a  trifling  novel  called 
Emily  and  of  Logic  made  Eaxy.  This  last  production 
was  unmerciftUlr  cut  up  by  Mr.  Gopleston,  whose  critique 
was  headed  with — 

'  Aut  biec  in  nostros  fabricata  est  nuchina  mnros, 
Aut  aliquis  latet  error :  Equo  ne  credlte,  Tencri.* 

The  severity  and  bad  taste  of  this  quotation  (so  remark- 
able in  a  person  of  such  gravity  as  Mr.  Coplestoo)  con- 
sisted in  the  allusion  to  a  nickname  given  to  Mr.  Kett 
from  his  long  equina  countenance.  I  have  not  the  critique 
by  me,  but  Ihave  been  told  that  'patet '  was  substituted 
for  '  latet '  in  the  motto  of  Mr.  Copleston's  pamphlet" 

P.S.  On  the  title-page  of  my  copy  of  Kett's 
Elements  the  author  is  described  as  '^  Henry 
Kett,  B.D.,  Fellow  and  Tutor  of  Trinity  College, 
Oxford."  Spabks  H.  Williams. 

18,  Kensington  Crescent,  W. 

"  When  Adam  belted,"  etc.  (4*^  S.  ix.  416, 
476.) — I  have  an  engraving  of  old  and  rude  figures 
in  painted  glass  from  a  wmdow  of  some  church, 
but  without  any  indication  whence  it  was  taken. 
The  centre  compartment  has  in  its  upper  division 
Adam  and  Eve,  one  on  each  side  of  tne  **  tree  of 
knowledge.''  The  serpent  is  entwined  up  the 
stem  of  the  tree,  and  is  tempting  Eve,  who  has 
two  apples,  one  in  each  hand,  and  is  giving  one  to 
Adam,  and  about  to  eat  the  other  herself.  In  the 
lower  portions  of  the  two  side  compartments 
Adam  is  digging  with  a  spade,  and  £ve  sitting 
to  spin.  Below  our  first  parents,  in  the  centre, 
is  the  head  of  our  Blessed  Kedeemer,  and  in  the 
upper  portions  at  the  sides  are  rude  figures  of  St 
Bemaxxl,  with  a  dog  at  his  feet  having  a  bone  in 
his  mouth,  and  of  St.  Christopher  wading  as  usual 
with  fishes  about  his  feet  The  figures  of  Adam 
and  Eve  are  without  any  clothing  but  a  slight 
8ort  of  apron  resembling  long  hair  or  fringe. 

F.  C.  H. 

Habd  Labottb  (4**  S.  ix.  404,  476.)— Unquea- 
tionably  Mb.  Sala  has  culminated  the  idphabet 
of  penaUdeB,  and  I  Bubmit  mj  A.  B.  G.-damn 


\ 


sciolism  to  Lis  Y.  Z.,  retaining,  however,  mj 
opinion  that  the  opus  inoperosum  of  oakum-picking 
or  mill- treading  at  Pentonville  is  more  wearisome 
than  stone-quarrying  at  Portland.  Neither  can  I 
accord  with  J.  D.  that  the  shot-drill  is  more 
**  agonizing  *'  to  the  spirit  of  an  English  soldier 
than  cat-scoring— a  punishment  which,  I  trust,  no 
magistrate's  preferential  clemency  withholds  from 
our  street-ruffians  or  from  the  insulters  of  our 
women.  E.  L.  S. 

<'  Cabl  the  Mabttb  "  (4*»»  S.  ix.  426.}— The 
poem  of  *'  Karl  the  Martyr,"  by  Frances  White- 
side, first  appeared  in  The  Welcome  Quests  ii.  p.  38, 
published  by  Houlston  &  Wright  in  1860.  If, 
after  this  information,  Mb.  Clabe  is  unable  to 
obtain  the  poem,  let  him  put  himself  in  commu- 
nication with  me,  and  I  will  endeavour  to  carry 
out  his  wish.  ^dwabd  C.  Davies. 

Cavendish  Club. 

Cateb-Cottsins  (4"»  S.  ix.  331,  396,  466.)— I 
too .  am  Lancashire,  but  I  never  heard  the  term 
applied  to  relationship  near  or  distant,  as  T.  T.  W. 
has,  but  only  to  friendship.  Where  the  intimacy 
was  hot,  "Oh  I  they  are  quite  cater-cousins''' 
would  be  observed  \  and  in  the  event  of  a  coolness 
or  a  mutual  dislike, ''  Well,  you  see,  they  are  not 
exactly  cater-cousins."  P.  P. 

It  may  interest  your  correspondents  to  know 
that  in  tms  neighbourhood  the  word  caier  is  used 
in  the  same  way  as  mentioned  by  T.  T.  W.,  but 
made  into  a  verb.  To  cater  across  a  field  is  to 
walk  from  comer  to  comer,  in  opposition  to 
'*  walking  "  or  '^  going  "  across  — to  walk  straight 
from  side  to  side.  E.  S.  C. 

Sittingbonme. 

Billtcocx  Hats  (4**  S.  ix.  444.) — I  have  been 
told  that  one  Wikock  having  either  invented  or 
manufactured  or  first  sold  these  hats,  some  very 
clever  youns  man  was  so  exceedingly  witty  as  to 
transmute  them  into  Billycocks.  P.  P. 

Gabbet  and  Gbbald  (4*  S.  ix.  26,  412.)— If 
etymology  is  to  have  any  voice  in  this  question, 
Qer-ald  and  Ger-hardt  are  certainly  not  the  same 
name,  any  more  than  Ethelstan  and  Ethelfied. 
^  Uebxentbude. 

Misebebe  Stalls  (4*  S.  ix.  406,  471.)— The 
miserere  b  properly  a  small  shelf  or  rest  under- 
neath the  seat  of  a  stall  in  the  choir  of  a  church. 
The  seat  itself  turns  back,  when  not  required  for 
sitting  down  upon.  But  to  afford  some  relief  to 
a  canon  who  might  feel  fatigued  with  long  stand- 
ing, ibis  little  shelf  was  ingeniously  contrived, 
as  he  could  lean  back  and  partl^jr  sit  upon  it 
Hence  it  was  called  miserere,  as  being  a  merdful 
contrivance  to  relieve  fatigue.  The  stalls  them- 
selves are  often^  thoualivcQL^'is^^x^aSSSs^^wMft^ 


518 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


L4*  S.  IZ.  Jims  SS,  Tl. 


origin  of  the  nusereren  is  thua  explained;  but  I 
doubt  if  any  date  can  be  aligned  lor  their  intro- 
duction. F.  C.  H. 

There  are  a  few  left  in  Durham  Castle  chapel, 
in  stalls  which  bear  the  arms  of  Bishop  Kuthall 


**  LocESLET  Hall"  (4^^  B.  ix.  471.)— A  ptaodj 
(I  cannot  say  whether  the  parody)  on  ''  liOfihriiy 
Hall/'  called '<  The  Lay  of  Uie  Lofelom,"  wiU  he 
found  in  the  Boh  GauUier  BaUadg.        C.  W.  IL 

This  poem  has  been  so  freauently  made  the 


(1508-1522).   The  moat  noteworthy  are:— A  man  '  subject  of  parody  thst  it  might  be  difficult  to 

wheeling  in  a  barrow  a  woman,  who  if*  holding  on  ;  answer  your  correspondent's  query,  **  Where  cu  I 

with  one  hand  and  wieldin>r  a  scourge  with  the  fijui  what  one  often  hears  prused  as  <fA«  parody' 

other.     A  mermaid  arising  out  of  a  spiral  shelli  -    -     -   -                       -- 

and  attacked  by  a  dragon.  A  group  like  St.  George 


and  the  dranron ;  but  the  man,  though  on  horse- 
back, is  not  in  armour.  The  remains  of  a  ligure 
pushing  at  the  nose  of  a  dragon  with  a  small 
round  ^ield. 

At  St.  Andrew's,  Auckland,  there  are  shields 
nu  some  of  the  misereres,  e.  //.  the  arms  of  Bishop 
Langley:  a  shield  with  a  plain  cross,  and  one 

with  a  rose  between  two  iluroated  Vs.      J.  T.  F. 
Hut  field  Ilall,  Durliam. 

The  first  time  1  was  in  the  church  of  Church 
Stretton,  Salop,  I  drew  the  attention  of  the  curate 
to  a  figure  carved  on  a  seat,  which  formed  a  cftiest 
in  tlie  chancel,  saying — **I  hope  this  is  not  in- 
tended as  an  emblem  of  the  clergy  of  Stretton  ?  " 
The  figure  (about  the  size  of  a  finger)  was  a  wolf 
iu  sheep's  clothing,  the  head  of  the  enemy  pro- 
truding, and  the  llecce  thrown  back  on  his  neck. 

II. 

Dublin  Librar}'. 

GoDFRKY  IIiGGi^s  (4***  S.  ix.  4C0.)— A  minia- 


of  *  I^ocksley  Hall '  P  "  My  own  repW  to  the  aoeiy 
would  be — in  Bon  Gualtier's  Bo(A  of  BaUmU: 
the  poem,  **  The  Lay  of  the  LoTeloni|  begimiing 
thus: — 

**  ComraUe-s  you  may  pass  the  rosy.    With  permiMonof 
the  chair, 
I  shall  leave  yoa  for  a  little,  for  Td  like  to  take  the 
air." 


A  very  good  though  brief  parody  of  "  Lodulsj 
Hall,'*  by  Albert  Smith,  appeared  in  his  iiahlici- 
tion  The  MofUhf  p.  106.  It  is  ceiled  *'  Linooh'i 
Inn/*  and  begins  thus — 

**  Comrailcs,  leave  me  here  a  minute,  for  it  Is  not  fre 
o'clock ; 
Leave  me  here,  and,  when  yoa  want  me,  yoa  will  M 
me  at  the  Cock.*' 

CUTHBBBT  BeDE. 

Smtth  Family  Cbsst  {i^  S.  ix.  47a)— I  on 
find  no'  mention  of  Smyth  of  RathcoaneT,  ea 
Cork,  in  Hurke*s  General  Armmy ;  but  Sinytii,oa 
Middlesex,  and  Kelmaxsh,  co.  Northunptn,  bea 

gii.  on  a  chev.  or  between  three  bezants,  u  many 

ture  portniit  of  this  "  Yorkshire  woVth'v  ''was  con-  I  crosses  pattdc  titch^  sa;  crest,  a  cabit  arm  ersct, 
tributed  to  the  National  J:xhibition  of  Works  of  i  l>aWted  per  pale  or  and  gu.,  nasping  in  the  hsni 
Art.at  Leeds,  in  18t?8,  bv  Mr.  S.  Hatfield  of  Skel-    P^per  a  gnflin's  head  erased  az.    There  is  tlis 


•low  (iraniro.  Fai&less  Babbeb. 

Castle  Hill,  Kastrick,  Brighou.'<c. 

The  only  portrait  known  is  a  miniature  lent  to 
the  Leeds  Exhibition,  and  photographed  for  the 
Yorkthire  Worthies,  vol.  ii.  No.  181. 

Edwabd  Hattjstone. 

Walton  Hall. 

"Ballad  of  nrRT>i:xs''  (4""  S.  ix.  471.)— A 
pnrody  on  the  "  Ballad  of  Burdens,"  called  "  A 
Ballad  of  Blunders,"  appeared  iu  Punch  for  De- 
cember 1.  1800.  C.  W.  M. 

Lkoknii  of  St.  Dorothy  (4»*»  S.  ix.  471.)— The 
query  of  a  JrMOR  Student — **AVherc  is  the  legend 
of  St.  Dorothy  first  mentioned  in  literature?'' — 
is  uot  easy  to  answer,  because  it  is  not  clear  what 
is  ht^ro  meant  by  ''literature."  All  that  can  be 
said  is,  that  the  legend  of  this  saint  is  met  with 
in  various  old  works  of  ha^riolo^ry,  just  as  the 
accounts  are  of  so  many  other  saints.      F,  G.  H. 

I  am  not  a  Bollandist ;  but,  as  far  as  I  know, 
the  leprend  of  St.  Dorothy  is  first  made  use  of  **  in 
ynerature  "  by  Massinger  (assisted  by  Decker)  in 
the  celebntoa  tragedy  of  Tfie  Viryin  Mortar. 

J.  H.  1.  Ojl¥i;rt. 


another  Smyth,  but  with  no  county  named,  whoie 
bearings  are  the  same  with  the  exception  of  the 
crosses,  which  are  gu.;  crest,  an  arm  ereet,  irested, 
per  pale  or  and  ax.,  a  cuff  ar.,  holding  intiie  hand 
propor  a  griffiu*s  head  erased  of  theaeoond. 

T.  W.  Ttbbell. 

"  Adax  Blaib"  (4*^  S.  ix.  445.)— In  answer  to 
G.  K.,  I  quote  the  following  paragraph  from  my 
Monumenti  and  Monumental  Intcr^iom  m  £So0(- 
landf  vol.  i.  p.  40:J : — 

**  A  tombstone  (in  the  chiurcbyard  of  Csfhwrt,  Mm- 
frewahire')  commemorates  the  Ber.  George  Adam*  whs 
died  miDister  of  the  porUh  on  Ftbruary  6, 1758.  On  as 
event  in  his  hbito^y  Mr.  J.  G.  Lockhart  has  ftrandsd  Us 
tale  entitled  *Some  Passages  in  the  Life  of  Mr.  Adui 
Blair.*  Mr.  Adnm  became  minister  of  CathearC  m  1788. 
He  took  {lart  in  the  rcTivals  at  Cambnalau  In  174S,  sai 
was  great]  V  esteemed  for  his  ministerial  giRs  and  aadsMi 
(qualities.  *  In  April  1 740  be  acknowledged  hiouair  gaillj 
of  improper  behaviour  with  aftmale,  to  the  sitwiishMit 
of  Ids  friends,  among  whom  he  maintafaied  a  high  shs- 
racter.  He  underwent  a  coarse  of  eodesfaatical  dladuUa^ 
and  was  deposed  from  hia  office,  firmpathy  eb  hii  te- 
holf  was  even-where  awakened.  His  patnm  heriton 
elders,  and  parishioners  petitioDed  the  General  AammlBif 
Cor  hia  teRtorution.  He  wn  re-admlttad  to  faii  ehaav  fa 
Kuc;Qa!t  ViX^,  «b(A  >L\ffiMBBwi  w9^9SmL  hisMrif 


4«fc  S.  IX.  JuKB  22,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


519 


The  circunutances  attending  Mr.  Adam's  depo- 
sition and  restoration  to  the  ministry  are  circum- 
stantially detailed  in  Dr.  H.  Scott*s  Fastiy  yol.  ii. 
p.  61.  Mr.  Lockhart  was  on  a  visit  to  his  father, 
the  Rev.  Dr.  John  Lockhart,  of  Glasgow,  when 
the  narrative  of  the  minister  of  Cathcart  was  inci- 
dentally related.  The  reviewer  was  deeply  moved, 
and  retiring  to  his  chamher,  there  composed  in  a 
short  space  of  time  his  story  of  *'  Adam  Dlair.'' 

Chabxbs  Rogsrs. 

Soowdoun  Villa,  Lewisham. 

Obbb-Axkeroau  Paabion  Plat  (4***  S.  ix. 
421,  452.) — In  1870  appeared  a  neat  little  volume 
entitled  — 

**  Da$  Ob0r-AmmergaHer  Paasitmt'Spi^,  mit  der  Pat' 
sionAUdtm  von  Albert  DUrer,  von  Frans  Shiiberl,  Pfurrer 
in  Laibstadt,  ncbst  Kiirtclicn,  Fuhrplttnen,  mit  Titel- 
zcichnungen  von  Alova  Sussmavr.  Zweite  Aufla^e,  Lich- 
sttttt  &  Stuttgart.  Verldg  vom  KrUirsdien  Bachhand- 
lung.    1870." 

It  is  very  nicely  got  J  up— both  the  map,  wood- 
cuts, and  letterpress — ana  was  brought  home  as  a 
pleasing  souvenir  of  a  delightful  excursion  to  Ger- 
many before  the  war.  P.  A.  L. 

The  Loan  of  Books  DnBi>'a  the  Middle 
Ages  (4»*»  S.  ix.  403.)— The  care  taken  in  former 
times  to  ensure  the  identification  of  volumes  that 
had  been  lent  is  well  illustrated  by  a  MS.  once 
the  property  of  the  nuxiks  of  Bardnev. 

On  January  20,  1803,  my  friend,  'the  late  Mr. 
John  Ross  of  Lincoln,  exhibited  before  the  Society 
of  Antiquaries — 

**  A  manuscript  which  bad  once  belonged  to  Bardnej 
Abbey  in  Linculnnhire.  It  consiitted  of  the  end  of  the 
Clementine  Constitutions,  and  appeared  to  belong  to  the 
latter  part  of  the  fourteenth  century.  The  most  re- 
markable feature  was,  that  on  the  la^t'leaf,  below  a  male- 
dictory sentence  in  red  ink,  was  a  hole  formed  by  cattinflr 
out  a  slip  of  the  vellum,  the  upper  part  being 'indented 
like  the  top  of  a  deed.  It  is  not  easy  to  know  for  what 
purpose  this  singular  device  was    adopted,    unless  to 

identify  the  volume  if  lost The  inscription  is, 

late  liber  ett  tie  Monakterio  de  Bardenajf.  Si  quit  ip*itm 
alienauerit  indignacionem  dei  omnipotentis  incurrat."  — 
Proceedingn  of  Soc.  Antiq.  2nd  8eries,  vol.  ii.  p.  19(J. 

An  ongravina:  of  the  hole  in  the  MS.  is  given  in 
the  above  work,  showing  its  exact  size  and  shape 
and  the  half  letters  which  still  remain  on  the 
page,  but  which  have  been  purposely  cut  through 
as  an  additional  means  towards  identification 
when  the  indenture  was  made. 

EOWABD  PSACOCK. 
Bottesford  Manor,  Brigg. 

Grey  Fbiabs  of  Bewmakax  (4"'  S.  ix.  300, 
432.) — Coupled  as  it  is  with  St.  Columba,  I 
wotild  suggest  that  the  word  viila  is  not  the 
Latin  one  signifying  a  town,  but  the  Irish  BiU, 
pronounced  billa,  or  frequently  viUa,  meaning  an 
aged  or  sacred  tree.  This  word  forms  a  pan  of 
the  names  of  places  in  many  parts  of  Ireland,  and 
might  be  readily  miBtaken  for  the  Latin  villa. 


Thus  in  the  county  of  Down  we  have  Movilla, 
an  abbey  founded  by  St.  Flnian  about  the  year 
540,  at  which  place  St.  Columba  received  part  of 
his  education.  The  name  Moviila  is  written  in 
Irish  Magh  Bile,  i.e.  Magh,  a  plain,  pronounced 
in  this  instance  Mo,  but  sometimes  Maw,  or 
Moy,  and  Bili,  pronounced  viila,  a  sacred  or  aged 
tree.  Moville,  in  Donegal^  another  very  earlv 
religious  foundation,  is  precisely  the  same  word, 
but  pronounced  as  a  word  of  two  syllables. 
A  pin,  Rathvillv  in  Carlow,  and  Bath  villa  in 
Kmg's  County,  both  signify  the  foot  of  the  aged 
tree,  and  are  written  by  the  annalists  Bath  Bile, 
Another  combination  frequently  met  with  is 
Aghavilla,  Agharille  and  Aghavilly,  all  meaning 
the  field  of  the  ancient  tree.  In  the  county  of 
Antrim,  near  the  Giant's  Causevray,  is  a  pariah 
called  Billy,  and  written  in  Irish  BiU,  Lisna- 
billa  in  Antrim,  and  Knockavilla,  a  name  found 
in  several  counties,  mi^ht  be  added,  and  indeed 
the  list  of  ffenuine  Irish  words  terminating  in 
villa  could  oe  largely  increased.  I  have  but 
little  doubt  that  "  the  villa  of  St  Columba,"  in 
the  Isle  of  Man,  was  a  sacred  tree,  a  relic  pro- 
bably of  pa£:an  times,  close  to  which  Columba  or 
one  of  his  followers  founded  a  church.  The  pre- 
sent name  of  the  parish  is  very  suggestive — Kirk 
Arbory ;  this  herns,  I  conceive,  a  corruption  of  the 
Latin  rendering  of  the  Irish  name.  Moviila  men- 
tioned above  is  rendered  by  the  later  monkish 
writers  ''  Camjme  arboris  sacrij'^  an  exact  transla- 
tion of  the  Irish  name.  W.  H.  Pattbrsow. 

Belfast. 

There  is  no  connection  between  the  friary  of 
Bewmakan  and  Fumess :  the  latter  was  Cister- 
cian in  Lancashire,  the  former  a  Franciscan 
friary.  On  December  7,  1367,  Pope  Urban  V. 
gave*  his  sanction  for  "the  erection  of  the  Fran- 
ciscan friary,  at  the  petition  of  William  Mon- 
tagu, Earl  of  Salisbury,  within  the  parish  of  St 
Columba,  in  the  Isle  of  Man.  The  remains  of 
this  convent  still  exist  at  Bewmakan,  within  the 
parish  of  Kirk  Arbory.  The  obiect  of  my  query 
was  to  ascertain  when  the  parish  lost  its  name  of 
St  Columba,  and  took  that  of  Arbory.  The 
Bolandists  suppose  that  Arbory  is  derived  from 
St.  Corebuc.  A  writer  in  the  March  number  of 
the  Irish  JEccleeiaetical  Becord,  for  the  year  1869, 
p.  258,  supposes  that  Corebuc  or  Carbra  may  be 
a  corruption  from  St  Ourora,  who  had  a  church 
in  the  Isle  of  Man,  which  is  now  forgotten. 
Your  correspondent  Wilfbid  now  adds  another 
candidate,  St  Cairpre,  for  the  honour  of  the 
naoip.  The  suggestions  deserve  to  be  considered ; 
and  he  will  comer  a  benefit  if  he  can  give  any 
further  particulars  about  that  saint.  The  change 
of  the  name  of  St.  Columba  to  Arbory  is  cer- 


\ 


tainly  not  beyond  l!afc  \|i\fe  ^A\5NANjfiPM!3*^'«ft«^- 


520 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[40>  &  IX.  JirvB  22. 72. 


"Nothing  from  Nothihg"  (4**»  S.  ix.  217/ 
305,  41(i.) — Aro  the  correspondents  who  are  in- 
terested in  this  subject  aware  of  a  curious  and 
clever  poem  which  commences — 

*'  No  Muses  I  implore  their  aid  to  bring  ; 
He  needs  no  Muse  who  nothiHg  has  to  uing  '*  — 

and  ends — 

**  Beyond  creation's  bounds  nothing  finds  plaoe. 
And  nothing  tills  the  mighty  void  of  ^pacc; 
On  nothina  turn  the  lucid  orbs  above, 
And  all  the  stars  in  mystic  order  move  ; 
On  nothing  hangs  this  vast  terraqueous  ball ; 
The  nforld  from  nothing  sprang,  from  nothing  started 

wLmXm 

It  may  be  found  in  an  old  school-book  (Sequel 
to  the  Poetical  Monitor j  1822,  Longmans  &  Co.), 
and  is  attributed  to  the  llev.  J.  Belsham.  If 
wished  for,  I  will  copy  and  forward  it. 

S.  M.  S. 

Passagk  in  Chesterfikld  (4*"*  S.  viii.  ^mimiVw  ; 
ix.  303.)— Cicoro  (Twrul.  Qiuest.  iv.  31)  is  quite 
in  agreement  with  Chesterfield  that  loud  laughter 
is  inadmissible  — ''  Si  ridere  concessum  sit,  yitu- 

Seratur  tamen  cachinnatio.''  In  regard  to  the 
eiinition  of  ristiSj  Cicero  (Or.  ii.  58)  begs  to  rele- 
gate it  to  Democritiis,  the  laughing  philosopher, 
as  it  did  not  enter  into  his  present  plan  to  con- 
sider laughter  in  connection  with  the  precepts 
which  he  was  laying  down  for  an  orator  — 

''Quid  sit  ipse  ri.sut*,  quo  parto  concitetur,  ubi  sit, 
quomodo  (?xistat  atijue  ita  repente  crumnat,  ut  eum 
cupientc!)  tencrc  nequcanius  ....  viderit  Democritus : 
neque  enim  ad  hunc  sermoncm  hoc  pertinet.*' 

I  do  not  think  that  Cicero  anywhere  goes  so 
far  as  to  condemn  the  joyous  nature  of  man, 
which  bursts  forth  occasionally  in  a  hearty  laugh, 
though  it  must  be  sparingly  indulged  in.  l)es- 
sing,  in  his  Minna  von  Barnhehn  (iii.  5)  exclaims: 

"  Was  habon  Sic  denn  gegen  das  lichen  ?  Kann 
roan  dcnn  nicht  auch  lachend  sehr  ernsthnft  seyn  ?  Lio- 
ber  Major,  das  Lachen  crhiilt  uns  vernlinftigcr  als  der 
Verdruss." 

What  have  you  to  say  against  laughing?  Can  we 
not  while  laughing  be  very  serious  ?  Laughing  keeps  us 
more  rational  than  sadness  caused  by  vexation. 

"Ride,  si  sapis,"  says  Martial  (Ep,  ii.  41),  and 
Goldoni,  the  Moliere  of  Italy,  distinguishes  the 
Tarieties  of  laughing  in  the  following  way  (Pamela, 
i.  10) : — 

^  *'  II  riso  b  proprio  dell*  uomo :  ma  tutti  gli  aomini  non 
ridono  per  la  stessa  cagiono.  V'6  il  ridicolo  nobile,  che 
ha  origine  dal  vezzo  dcllc  {tarole,  dai  sali  arguti,  dalle 
facezic  spiritosi  e  brillanti.  V*  h  il  riso  vile,  che  nasce 
dalla  scurrilitii,  dalla  schioccheria." 

Laughing  is  peculiar  to  man ;  but  all  men  do  not 
laugh  for  the  same  reason.  There  is  the  gentlemanly 
banter  (j)fr»ijJage\  which  springs  from  the  charm  in  the 
words,  from  the  flash  of  wit,  from  the  spirited  and  bril- 
liant sally.  There  is  the  low  joke,  which  arises  from 
scurrility  and  idle  conceiL 

Ooldoni means  that  both  excite  laucb\i\^,\\io\i^li 
for  far  diiTerent  reasons.  C .  T .  llk^ vqt.. 


TiBrLLUs  AND  Wati8*8  Htiors  (4^  S.  is.  403, 
474.) — Mr.  PicKFOBD  is^  no  doubt,  aware  that 
Dr.  Watts,  in*  one  of  his  "  Lyrics,"  says — 

**  Seiie  f nrfA,  where'er  it  may  be  fonnd. 
On  Christian  or  on  heathen  gronnd." 

Acting  up  to  this  liberal  ptindple,  the  doctor, 
who  was  a  good  classical  scholar,  would  not  scruple 
to  christianise  such  a  passage  as  the  one  quoted 
from  Tibullus  by  Mr.  Picxford.  I  am  therefore 
of  opinion  that  the  coincidence  may  not  be  "  ac- 
cidental." Dr.  AVatts*s  inordinate  love  of  dasocal 
lore  is  too  apparent  in  his  works,  particularly  in 
his  prose  writings.  This  is  noticed  by  one  of  his 
biographers — I  think  by  Dr.  Johnson  —  who,  it 
may  bo  remarked,  erred  after  the  same  fashion ; 
bu^  as  the  proverb  says, ''  Satan  can  reprove  on." 

YlATOB  (1.) 

DiTOBCE  (4*»»  S.  ix.  200,  261,  306, 873,  446.)— 
There  is  no  ''  rule  of  law "  applicable  to  the 
question  raised  by  <'  X.  Y.  Z. "  ana  a  '<  Babbibtee- 
at-Law;"  nor,  so  far  as  I  know,  has  the  question 
ever  been  riused  before  Sir  C.  Cresswell  or  Lord 
Penzance.  With  respect  to  decrees  of  nullity  of 
marriage  and  decrees  of  divorce,  there  is  obviouslj 
no  analogy  between  them.  In  the  former  case, 
the  woman  never  was  a  wife,  and  therefore  ought 

not  to  retain  the  title  of  Mrs. ;  whereas  in 

the  other  case  her  condition  has  been  altered, 
she  has  entirely  lost  her  muden  nan^e  and  state, 
and  cannot  properly  be  again  a  ''Miss.*'  I  have 
frequently  been  requested  to  advise  upon  the  sub- 
ject, and  will  repeat  in  substance  what  I  have 
said  to  my  clients;  that  the  retention  bv  a 
divorced  woman  of  her  marriage  name  must  be  a 
matter  of  discretion  according  to  the  circum- 
stances— viz.  her  age,  and  whether  she  has  chil- 
dren— but  that,  generally,  a  woman  does  best  to 
retain  her  marriage  name.      Ernst  BBOWimro. 

Temple. 

"  As  Straight  as  a  Die  "  (4«*  S.  i^  119, 
18*5,  240,  345,  448.)— In  specifications  for  car- 
pentry in  buildings  the  expression  '*  die  square,** 
to  indficate  exact  squareness  in  the  timber  to  be 
supplied,  is  very  common.  Clearly,  to  mv  mind, 
this  refers  to  a  die ;  for  dios,  to  throw  fiurlV,  must 
necessarily  be  perfectly  right  angled.  Jror  the 
same  reason  the  terms ''  as  straignt  as  a  ^e," 
"  as  level  as  a  die,"  seem  to  me  to  refer  to  the 
dice  which  were  at  one  time  so  common.  Ex- 
pressions in  common  use  are  not  always  strictly 
accurate  in  a  mathematical  sense;  for  instance^ 
an  Irish  car-driver  once  described  the  abeoluta 
straightness  of  a  certain  road  to  me  as  "  as  straight 
as  a  whip ; "  and  I  have  heard  of  an  itinerant 
preacher  who  illustrated  the  perfect  roundneas  of 
the  globe  by  saying  it  was  "  as  round  aa  a  hone'a 
t  head."  The  congregation  are  said  to  haTa'nnir- 
\  m\a«\  ^\.  ^v&)\raX.Tk<(A.  v^  \fis&iS&  ^^hA  TiednoM  of 


»  S.  IX  JosB  W,  7!.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Mb9.  Ajotb  3tkkl«  (4'*  S.  Lt.  476.)— 
"  Anna  Slede  wia  bora  at  BronghtoD,  Himpiihire,  io 
1717.  Iter  rather,  Willum  Sl«cl^  ■  tiinb«r-ni<ichBDt, 
ofGciated  for  eixtj  f  wra  as  the  uiuilirieil  pastor  of  the 
Biptiat  congTHation  at  BroaghtoD.  Anna  wai  delicate 
ftx>[n  childhood,  and  of  retiring  habits.  Under  the  came 
of  'Theodosia'  ihe  pabllihed  In  17Q0  two  Tolumee  of 
Foemt  atid  Hymiu.  A  third  Tolums  of  eacred  Ij'rica 
(torn  her  pen  wu  pablUfaed  after  her  deceaaa.  She  died 
at  BroughtoD  in  Noveniber,  tT78,  at  the  age  of  ■ixtj-one. 
Her  life  was  spent  In  works  of  twoevoteiiM.  For  manj' 
Tcan  she  suflvrad  from  Beverfl  bodily  pain,  whloh  ahe 
bon  with  eiemplaiy  pallenoe." — Sea  mj  Lyra  Britan- 

CuARLBS  Rooxas. 

Snowdoon  Villa,  Lvirisbani,  S.E. 

"  A  PRBTii  Kettle  ot  Fish  "  (4'*  S.  riii.  640 ; 
b.  102.)— Tha  following  eitract  from  the  lut 
(the  eleveutb)  onniul  Sqiort  of  the  Intpecton  of 
Salmon  Fithtriea  expl&iiu  the  abore  H;iiig  in  a 
way  I  have  not  heaiii  before :  — 


and  maoj  early  fishery  itatates.    In  their  t 

nets  are,  I  conFcive.  responsible  for  the  old  proTerb,  "  A 

pretty  lieltlB  of  fish."— Mr.  Walpole'a  Rrporl,  p.  44. 

W.  E. 

"Little  Booxs  oir  Obbit  Sbmkcm  "  (4"  S. 
ix.  418.)— These  books  were  chielly  written  bj 
Miss  C.  P.  Cornwallis,  a  few  of  the  series  bj  my 
brother,  the  late  David  Power,  Q.C,  of  the  Nor- 
folk circuit,  and  Recorder  of  Ipswich.  Mj  brother 
acted  also  as  editor  for  some  time. 

Id  a  selection  from  the  letters  of  the  late  Miss 
Corowallis,  addressed  to  my  brother  and  other 
friends  edited  by  ReT.  C,  P.,  a  most  Intimate  friend 
of  Miss  Cornwallis,  and  published  bv  Triibner  ia 
18G4,  it  is  stated  that  Miss  Cornwallis  regarded 
"SmallBooks  on  Qreat  Subjects"  aa/A«  work  of 
her  life,  and  by  which  she  most  desired  to  be 
known  and  to  be  remembered. 

Miss  Cornwallis  was,  as  no  doubt  you  are  aware, 
an  accomplished  Greek  and  Hebrew  scholar,  and 
a  woman  indeed  of  rare  attainments. 

E.  Rawdon  Power. 

Tenby. 

"Thimk  that  Day  lost,"  etc.  (4*  S.  is.  320, 
300,  476.) — The  sentiment  is  evidently  borrowed 
from  the  well-known  lament  of  the  emperor  Tittii 
Vespasian.  He  was  so  generous  and  beneficent 
that,  having  once  let  a  day  pass  without  having 
bestowed  anything,  he  expressed  hia  regret  to  his 
courtiers  in  these  words — "  Diem  perdidi." 

F.  C.  H. 

LiDCSTRiouB  (4""  S.  ii.  4C0.)^Johnson  gives 
the  third  meaning  of  this  word  "  designed,  done 


for  the  purpose,"  and  rives  examples  from  More, 
Watts,  Dryden,  and  Swift.  M.  L. 

"  BoKBD  "  (4»  S.  ix.  483.)— In  the  old  play  of 
Lard  Oromweil,  Act  IIL  Sc  2  (Anc.  BrU.  Drama, 
i.  5S5,  c.  3),  the  verb  ia  used  in  a  sense  that 
seems  to  approach  to  that  of  our  modem  slang:— 

"  No,  I'll  assure  yon,  I  am*no  carl,  but  ■  ■mlth.air; 
one  Hodge,  a  ainlth  at  Potnev,  sir;  one  that  bath  gulled 
you.  that  hath  barai  you,  air. 

I  think  the  slang-substantive  comes  simply  from 
the  common  verb  "  to  bore  "  (as  with  an  auger). 
The  bore  is,  par  excelimce,  the  talker:  be  who 
I  "fills  the  bm^  of  (our)  hearioKi  to  the  emother- 
I  ing  of  the  sense  "  (Ci/mbeline,  Act  III.  Sc.  2),  who 
I  "rams  his  tidings    into  our  ears. 

Jobs  Addis,  U.A. 

Ruatington,  LiUlahampton,  Sussex. 

T&.uisitiJTATioii  or  LiarriDS  (4"  S.  ix.  236, 
328,  410,  476.)  ~  Mr.  Clares  writes,  "  It  is  not 
easy  to  see  on  what  prindplea  of  comparative  phi- 
lologT  the  English  word  rnm  can  be  derived  Irom 
the  Greek  rhain ; "  and  he  must  find  it  very  diffi- 
cult indeed,  if  it  be  true,  that  "it  is  as  reasonable 
to  assume  that  the  Greek  rhain  is  derived  from 
the  English  rain."  But  is  this  reasonable  P  The 
Greek  root  rhain  was  throwing  out  its  eucken 
some  thousand  years  before  any  root  of  German 
zTowth  had  been  transplanted  to  Britain,  and  even 
before  any  appreciable  transplantation  of  clasmail 
roots  had  been  made  into  Germany.  The  root 
rhait  III.  A,  283,  hi'"rf>  SI  ripti  lo.!;,)  is  allied  to 
p^,  and  to  the  roots  ptF,ftv,uii  (tui;  and  Thiersch, 
from  whom  I  copied,  not  only  compares  with 
rhain  the  Thuringian  rdngn,  Ger.  regnen,  riniun, 
and  Jihein,  but  alto  hazards  riateln,  from  pm.  The 
derivation  struck  me  as  curious,  but  not  as  strained; 
and  I  simply  made  the  step  from  regnen  to  rain. 
Lewis  Sbbqkaht. 

Red  Deeb  (4*  8.  ix.  428, 403. )— Robert  Racket 
was  keeper  of  Hardwick  Park,  and  these  parl^ 
according  to  llolinsbed,  were  so  numerous  in  tlM 
middle  of  piiteenth  century  as  to  absorb  one- 
twentieth  of  the  territory  of  the  realm,  3axton, 
e.  1680,  engraves  seven  hundred  upon  his  mapa. 
It  ia  probable  that  red  deer  were  common  in  Der- 
byshire io  the  seventeenth  centurv,  as  they  were 
so  in  other  parts  of  England.  Macaulay  in  hia  - 
masterlv  chapter  of  hia  Uittnry,  describing  the 
slate  of  England  in  1686,  says:  — 

"  The  red  deer  were  then  as  common  in  Gloocesterahire 
and  Hampshire  as  they  now  are  among  the  Grampian 
Hilts.  On  one  occasion  Queen  Anne,  trirelling  to  Poita- 
moulb,  saw  a  herd  of  noiesa  thao  five  hundred.  The  wild 
bnllivith  his  white  mane.waa  alill  to  be  found  wandaring 
in  a  few  of  the  souttaem  foresta." 

According  to  Mr.  Kinstley,  red  deer  roamed 
over  the  barren  tracts  of  Basshot  fifty  years  ago. 
The  New  Forest  contained  large  herds*  down  to 
1851,  and  the  Forest  of  Dean  was  de^iU^^^'b^ 
deer  abouj.  tliW.  >Am&.  i'a^-«.'^\^<v«v^^^»- , 


522 


NOTES  AND  QUEBIES. 


[4*h  8.  IX.  Jun  22,  71. 


Lire  Gibbons  (4«»'  S.  ix.  232, 374.)— Mr.  Pick- 
ford  is  perhaps  not  aware  that  The  Cavaiier, 
AfufpaMf  and  (Jiccn  [Owain  ?'J  fwochf  are  all  attri- 
buted to  "  T.  Roscoo,  Jun.'*  in  that  generally  cor- 
rect and  oxcoedingly  useful  publiration,  T7ie  London 
Catahf/ue  of  Books,  ISIO-IS.OI,  Thomafl  Ilodnon. 
Consequently,  some  testimony  from  Mr.  Pick- 
fob  d's  claimant  would  be  acceptable  as  to  the 
authorship.  Oli»iiar  IIaxst. 

The  Plant  Basil  (4"'  S.  ix.  408,  474.)— May 
I  repeat  a  query  ankt'd  by  S.  W.  Tilke,  when 
depcribinp  the  nnturo  and  properties  of  rue  {JRitia) 
(Oh^iervatioM  on  tlw  Xatitrc  of  (iout.  Sec,  lA>ndon, 
Poulter,  1834,  p.  94),  viz.: — "Can  any  botanist 
tell  the  reason  why  this  root  and  sweet  basil  will 
not  grow  near  each  otlier  ?  "  J.  I'erry. 

TiiK  PiEv.  W.  WiCKENDEN  (-V**  il  ix.  321, 4ri3.) 

Viator  (1 )  is  unnecessarily  severe  on  the  memory 

of  this  gontleman  in  his  communication  on  p.  453. 

It  is  roinarkablo  that  Mr.  Wickenden  should  have 

informetl  Viator  (1)  that  he  was  the  **BaTd  of 

the  Oli.'n,"  steing  that  he  has  always  been  known 

in  <  f louc<'8tershire  as  the  **  liard  of  the  Forest." 

The  lifth  edition  of  his  Poem^  was  published  by 

W.  SkcfliuKton,  103,  Piccadilly,  in  1859.  and  is 

thus  dedicated :  — 

"To  the  Momory  c»f  thnt  ;,'rc.at  IJ«>npfact<)r  of  the 
Jlaman  Kaois  Kdwani  .]i>nnor,  FNq.,  M.l).,  F.U.S.,  the 
following  pnj^i'S  arc  atrection.itcly  inicrilK'il  by  One  whom 
h»;  drew  from  (»bsfurity,  .iml  whi»e  early  efforts  he  I'os- 
V'T'^d  witli  kind  and  beiu'voh-nt  M>lioLtiidi'." 

The  author's  pn-facc  is  as  follows :  — 

"The  fir^t  etlili«Mi  of  my  Pitemx  was  ]iriiited  at  the 
filU«'0  of  th(!  CliiHcesttr  Jourmil  in  the  y<::ir  1H17.  It  was 
broii|;ljt  out  under  the  au^id'res  of  tb'.'  K^^'t  Dr.  .Trnncr, 
an«l  piinrd  much  local  notion.  The  -jp^ond  edition  ap- 
ppare«l  in  1^*J3,  whon  n  Student  at  St.  Jt din's  College, 
(.!amhriili,'o.  The  third  when  (Curate  of  Mudford,  in  the 
dioce:Hi  (»f  Bath  and  WpIN,  an<l  was  itrinted  at  Sherborne,. 
Dorsetshire,  in  1JSJ7.  The  fourth  nppcanil  in  London  in 
the  year  1H51,  and  was  published  liy  Hall  and  Vcrtne, 
Paternoster  Kow.  I  now  brin:^  out  a  fifth,  which,  so  far 
as  1  am  personally  cun('erne<l,  will  mo?t  probablv  hn  the 
la-^t." 

Mr.  \Vi»-kondon  diod  within  a  year  or  two  of 
the  publication  of  this  book,  A  notice  of  his 
death  appeared  in  tho  Will  a  and  ^rlonceKtrr  shire 
Standard^  hut  I  forget  the  exact  date.  I  should  not 
liavo  troubled  you  with  those  particulars  but  for  the 
unkind  way  in  which  Viator  (1)  refors  to  the 
"poor  man,"  and  his  unfounded  char^'C  that  he 
had  becouio  a  ''socialist  or  s<^mething  similar.*' 

G.  II.  n. 

Deftnitio>-  of  '•  Genius  ••  (4^*'  S.  ix.  280,  374, 
30.%  440.)— Goethe  thus  defines  it  {Truth  mid 
Podn/^  iv.  1.  10 :  vol.  xxii.  p.  370,  ed.  Stuttgart 
und  Tubingen,  1840) :  — 

**  Genie,  dicjenige  Kraft  defl  Mensehcn,  welche,  durch 
Handcin  und  Thun,  Ge^etz  und  Rc^rel  p;icbt." 

Genius  is  that  power  of  man  which,  by  its  deeda  and 
acUoiu,  ipvc$  laws  and  rules. 


And  he  goe«  on  to  tliow  that  the  idea  of  ^ 
which  prevailed  in  his  time  was  the  Teij  o^ontB 
of  thisy  for  it  was  thought,  as  he  says  — 

**  Wenn  einer  xa  Fuase,  ohne  rerht  la  winen  wamm 
und  wohin,  in  die  Welt  Hef,  so  biesB  et  eine  Ocniawiat^  vnd 
wenn  einer  etwat  Verkehrtei  ohne  ZwBck  und  Natm 
untemahm,  ein  Genieitrdeh." 

When  any  one  nuhed  into  the  world  on  foot  mithoai 
knowing  preclMly  why,  or  whitlier,  it  wai  oalkd  a  jom^ 
ney  of  a  genius;  and  when  any  one  juidatock  lomt 
absurdity,  without  aim  or  ail  vantage,  it  was  a  stroke  flf 
genius. 

I  suspect  diat  the  ancients  confined  the  idea  of 
*'  inspired  genius  "  to  the  poet — the  '^  Makar,"  m 
we  in  Scotland  used  to  call  him  in  eady  times. 
IIorace*s  definition  of  a  poet  {Skd.  1.  4.  43)  will 

be  recollected :  — 

*'  Ingeniom  cai  sit,  cui  mens  divinior  atqne  os 
Ma^na  sonaturum,  des  nominis  hojni  honarem.** 

It  will  be  observed  that  the  poet  must  have 

what  Horace  calls  inpenium,  and  when  we  refer  to 

Cicero  (Fin.  v.  13),  we  find  him  define  it  to  be — 

**  Docxiitas  et  mcinorla,  qiire  fere  appellantar  uno  iDgaiii 
nomine:  casque  virtutes  qui  babent,  iuTenioii  vocan- 
tur,  — 

and  elsewhere  {^Thsc.  i.  33)  he  says  of  these 
xnffettiosi :  — 

**  Aristotelcs  quidein  ait  omnes  ingeniosos  melancho- 
licos  esse." 

Is  not  this  docilitas  spoken  of  by  Cicero  verr 
much  the  same  as  the  *'  grande  aptitude  &  la  pfr- 
tienco  "  of  Buifon  P  Docilitas  is  the  cfiyuifcis  of 
the  Greeks ;  and  as  to  the  character  ascribed  hj 
Aristotle  to  the  ingeniosi,  it  reminds  us  of  what 
Drvden  savs  of  great  wits  {Absalom  and  AM^ 
phelf\it  i.*l.  103):  — 

"  (yfcat  wits  arc  sure  to  madmeu  near  allied^ 
And  thin  partitions  do  their  bounds  divide.'* 

I  sec  in-  Southgate*s  Many  TkomgkU  of  Maity 
Minds,  tliat  he  quotes  the  following  definition  of 
genius  from  ^outney ;  but,  like  all  his  other  quo- 
tations, without  any  precise  reference :  — 

*'  The  tliree  imli.spensnbles  of  genius  are  nndemtandiig; 
feclinf?,  an«l  perAevcronee.  The  three  thincs  that  enriS 
f^enius  are  omtentment  of  mi  ml,  the  chcnahing  of  gosd 

thought!*,  nnd  exercising  the  inemorv.'* 

C.  T.  Raxaob. 

AVniom'a  "  Domestic  MANKints  op  thb  Eire- 
LTsn  "  (4">  S.  ix.  300,  454.)— Ut  me  -  i«fer  the 
gifted  author  of  that  charming  work,  On  the  BifB 
of  the  iSiorm,  to  Freytap:*s  delightful  iVflteris  ^ 
berman  Life  in  the  XVih-XlSih  CentHrM.  tnm- 


CeniHrMf 

latcd  by  Mrs.  Malcolm,  4  vols.,  London,  18QSI-J. 
A  similar  work  for  England  is  moeh  wanted. 
Chambers's  Domedic  Annais  of  Seatkmd  ia  Iha 

nearest  approach  to  Freytag  in  our  literatux«. 

Q.Q. 

^"  XOT  LOST,  BUT  GOXS  BSFOBS  **  (4*^  S.  IX.  IML 

373,  470.) — This  line  is  certainly  not  to  be  foimd 
in  Anne  Steele's  works,  and  in  rarmer  Tolamea  of 


4«fc  8.  IX.  JuHB  22,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


523 


^  N.  &  Q/'  instuicee  hftye  been  giyen  of  it  appear- 
iog  long  before  the  period  when  she  wrote.  A 
good. modern  edition  of  her  works  was  published 
in  1863  by  Mr.  Sedgwick  under  the  title  of 
HymnSf  Psalms,  ^and  Pontis  by  Anne  Steele^  with 
Memoir  by  John  Sheppard.  G.  W.  N, 

Alderley  Edge. 

Barker  and  Burford's  Panoramas  (4***  S.  ix. 
436.)— In  the  handbill  quoted  bjW.  C.  B.,  Barker, 
jun.,  calls  his  father  "  the  inventor  of  the  pano- 
rama " ;  and  in  Haydn's  Dictionary  of  Dates  the 
iuTention  is  attributed  to  Barker,  sen.,  with  the 
date  1788  as  that  of  the  first  exhibited,  that  of 
the  city  of  Edinburgh,  The  definition  of  a  pano- 
rama as  "a  bird*s-eye  ^-iew  painted  round  the 
wall  of  a  circular  building  *'  is  not  correct,  the 
form  indicated  being  rather  that  of  a  diorama. 

Considerably  before  this  date  (1788),  however, 
and  before  Barker,  sen.'s  appearance  in  any  way, 
Loutherbourg — "  J:  P.  De  i^utherbonrg,"  as  fie 
wrote  himself— had  an  exhibition  of  the  panoramic 
kind;  and  is  frequently  called  by  Mr.  Thomburv 
and  others  "  Loutherbourg  the  'Panoramist."  I 
have  an  advertisement  of  this  artisfs  cut  out  of 
a  London  paper  of  the  date  of  1788,  of  which  the 
following  is  an  exact  copy  : — 

*'  Li^c  Street,  Leicester  Square. 

"Mr.  Dc  Loutherboarg  desxrea  to  return  bis  most 
fateful  thanks  to  the  Nobility  and  Gentr}%  for  tbe  very 
Satterinfj^  manner  tbey  bave  patronized  bis  exhibition  by 
honouring  him  with  their  company  in  many  brilliant  and 
orowded  audiences,  and  finding  it  impoesible  from  a  variety 
of  cngagement^  he  is  under,  to  continue  it  but  for  a  ver}- 
short  time,  gives  this  notice  before  he  finally  closes  it, 
that  for  the  accommodation  of  the  public  at  large,  he  has 
idtered  the  plan  of  the  room,  and  divided  the  back  seats 
from  the  front ;  the  first  rows  will  be  at  the  usual  price 
of  5«.,  the  other  seats  at  2j(.  Gd  p 

^*  The  future  evenings  of  exhibiting  wfll  be  Monda3r8, 
Wednesdays,  and  Fridays. — ^To  begin  at  Eight  o'clock 
precisely. 
*'  The  entertainment  of  the  Eidophusicon  as  usual." 

The  meaning  of  this  adyertisement,  which  is 
very  peculiar  in  its  punctuation,  seems  to  be  to 
apprise  the  ''  public  at  large  "  of  the  chance  of 
seeing  something  at  half-a-crown,  hitherto  visited 
by  the  '^  nobility  and  gentry "  at  five  shillings. 
But  what  this  somdhing  was  it  does  not  inform 
us.  The  "  Eidophusicon,'^  mentioned  at  the  end, 
eeems  to  be  in  aadition  to  the  principal  subject  of 
the  exhibition,  as  it  is  stated  to  go  on  as  usual. 
From  the  derivation  of  the  word  we  may  suppose 
th\s  addition  to  have  been  of  the  nature  of  disaol- 
ying  views,  yet  in  Haydn's  Dictionary  of  Biayra" 
phy,  I  find  it  identified  with  the  panorama.  In 
that  work  he  is  thus  entered:  — 

"Ltttherbarg  (or  Loutherbourg),  PhUippe  Jacques  [a 
rniatake  :  it  should  be  Jacques  Philippe  jo  L.l,  French 
painter ;  b.  81  Oct.  1740;  came  to  London  ;  employed  by 
Garrick  1771;  invented  *  £idophyiioon  *  (panorama!)  ; 
exhibited  1782,"  &c. 


Perhaps  some  of  your  readers — ^W.  C.  B,.  G.  J. 
NoRMAV,  Db.  GATir,  or  any  other  who  tuies  an 
interest  in  a  somewhat  important  question  in  the 
history  of  the  arts — can  explain  these  discrepan- 
cies and  say  what  Barker,  sen.,  really  did,  and 
what  Loutherbourg*8  exhibition  really  was.  I 
for  one  will  be  greatly  obliged. 

William  B.  Sooti. 

Bellevue  Houio,  Chebca. 

Epitaph  on  a  Farrter  (4**»  S.  ix.  420.) — ^This 
epitaph,  given  by  Mr.  Batrs,  is  likewise  to  be 
found  in  South  Kilworth  churchvard,  co.  Leices- 
ter. '    W.  T.  T,  D. 

Burns  and  Keblr  (4"»  S.  ix.  158,  286,  329, 
475.) — Let  me  thank  Mr.  Middleton  for  the  ad- 
dition made  to  the  list  of  authorities,  and  at  the 
same  time  mentidk  one  more,  which  refers  to  a 
period  of  existence  identical  with  that  to  which 
Mr.  Keble's  lines  allude.  S.  Ignatius  Loyola,  in 
his  Sptritual  Exercises,  has — 

**■  Dans  le  ciel,  les  lames  sont  essays :  Abtterytt  Dent 
omnem  lacrymam  ah  ondis  eorum  (Apoc  viL  17).  Seule- 
ment  on  s'y  souvient  dee  pdnes  passees ;  mais  ce  souvenir 
est  pour  les  dlua  une  partic  de  la  beatitude :  chacun  d*eux, 
comme  autrefois  le  Prophcte,  s'applaudit  de  scs  ^preuves 
qui  ne  sont  plus.  Chacun  d'eux  se  dit :  Heureuses  tri- 
bulations qui  sont  maintenant  payees  d*an  poids  immense 
de  gloire  ....  Latati  tumutpro  ditbu*  qmUm§  nog  hnmi- 
licutif  annis  quibus  vidimus  m/tm.  (Ps.  Ixxxix.  15.) — 3fan- 
re»t,  ou  les  Exereicet  Spiritueh  ds  S.  Jgnace,  p.  318. 
Lyon  et  Paris,  1869. 

Ed.  Marshall. 

The  following  passage  from  Spenser's  Faery 
Queene  seems  to  be  parallel  to  the  quotation 
(*  Who  will  count  the  billows  past '' : — 

'**  What  if  some  little  pain  the  passage  have. 

That  makes  frail  flesh  to  fear  the  bitter  wave  ? 
Is  not  short  pain  well  borne  that  brings  long  ease. 
And* lays  the  soul  to  sleep  in  quiet  grave? 
Sleep  after  toil,  port  after  stormy  seas. 
Ease  after  war,  death  after  life,  does  greatly  please.*' 

Book  i.  canto  9,  ver.  40. 

Ellis  Kioht. 

Sugar- anD-Water  Day  (4«»»  S.  ix.  447.)  — 
Old  Mrs.  Barton^  who  kept  a  dame*8  school  at 
Cowbridge  for  mkny  years,  and  died  in  1866,  ased 
regularly  to  take  the  children  on  Holy  Thursday 
to  drink  sugar-and- water  at  the  Bowman's  Well. 
I  find  there  was  a  superstition  that  all  who  drank 
sugar-and-water  there  on  that  day  would  be  pro- 
tected from  evil  spirits  for  twelve  months.  Some 
time  ago  a  medical  noan  thought  he  would  try  the 
recipe,  but  not  feeling  certain  what  effect  on  his 
constitution  the  unusual  mixture  would  have, 
thouffht  it  prudent  to  drink  a  whole  bottle  of 
brandy  at  tne  well  afterwards.  In  the  end  — 
spirits  killed  him. 

I  think  it  probable  that  originally  this  annual 
pilj^mage  was  made  to  ''Oar  Lady's  Well/' 
which  is.  in  the  next  field,  and  in  timA  s^t^ 


524 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4ih&IZ.  JoR22,*il 


ferred  to  the  Bowmaii*8  Well  in  consequence  of 
the  marked  superiority  of  its  water.        G.  M.  T. 

"Laikd  op  Collikhill"  (4»'»  S.  ix.  300.)— 
liobert  Meldrum  of  Colliehill  /ind  Patridc  Mel- 
drum,  his  soUi  are  among  the  witnesses  to  a  deed 
of  presentation  by  iVndrew  Meldrum  of  Fyrie  to 
the  Chaplainry  of  St.  Ninian  in  the  church  of  St. 
Nicholas,  Aberdeen,  in  favour  of  Andrew  King, 
dated  1503.  C.  R  D. 

ScTTTARirs  (4"»  S.  ix.  440.)— This  office  may, 
perhaps,  be  the  same  fis  the  Scutellarius,  the 
otiicer  charged  with  the  care  of  the  scutellie, 
which  were  delivered  to  the  novice  on  taking  pos- 
Fession  of  his  cell.  The  Scutcllo)  are  mentioned 
in  Chron.  Man.  Ahingd.y  ed.  Stevenson,  Kolls'  Ser. 
vol.  ii.  p.  32i2 ;  the  "  Scutellarius,"  lii'j,  ii.  p.  339. 
In  vol  1.  p.  89,  "  Scutum  rotuudum  "  is  apparently 
a  dish.  Ed.  Marshall. 

"In  Hot  Water"  (4»'»  S.  ix.  4^3.)— Will 
C.  T.  B.  allow  me  to  caII  his  attention  to  a  paral- 
lel, though  not  exactly  similar  phrase,  more  an- 
cient by  above  two  hundred  years  ?  John  Ilusee 
writes  to  his  mistress,  Lady  Lisle,  June  22, 
1537:  — 

"  I  can  got  no  conserve  didbes,  for  tliose  that  my  Lady 
Fitzwilliam  hath  came  out  of  I^vaunt ;  bowbcity'if  they 
be  to  be  hadd,  I  will  have  of  them,  or  it  sliall  co»t  me  hot 
water." — Litle  Papert^  vol.  xi.,  art.  100. 

From  the  maimer  of  use,  it  would  seetn  that 
the  phrase  was  then  common ;  at  least,  so  far  as 
the  synonym  of  hot  water  for  quarrelling. 

Hermentrude. 

The  King  of  Smokers:  Mr.  Klaes  (4'*'  S.  ix. 
4(j(^) — Persons  intoreated  in  this  subject  would 
do  well  to  look  at  Cope's  Tohuvco  Plant  for  June. 

Cum  BERT  Bede. 

A  Welsh  Bard,  1541  (4**'  S.  ix.  404.)--This 
is  neither  the  first  nor  the  only  instance  of  send- 
ing prophets  to  prison  in  the  reign  of  Henry  VII  I. 
Anthony  Waite,  writing  in  or  about  1530,  says:  — 

"  It  is  rumoured  among  tbc  people  that  one  should  be 
committe<l  unto  the  Towre  by  cau.se  he  hath  said  that 
this  month  shall  be  raynye  and  full  uf  ^etc,  the  next 
nionethe  deathe,  and  the  third  warrcs ;  th^re  to  be 
kept  untili  experience  may  entryst  us  the  truth  of  his 
prophecy." — Lisle  Paper;  vol.  xiv.  art.  20. 

Hermextrvos. 


"  Oss  "  OR  "  Orse  ''  f4»»»  S.  ix.  404, 492.)— Your 
correspondent  who  spells  this  familiar  provin- 
cialism orscy  must  surely  be  a  southerner,  or  he 
would  scarcely  have  put  an  r  where  r  is  none.. 
The  Lancashire  pronunciation  is  rather  longer- 
drawn  than  088,  and  more  resembles  awse,  sounded 
like  the  name  Dawson.  I  have  heard  it,  how- 
ever,  in  (ill  varieties  of  length.  It  signifies  to  try 
or  attempt :  "  I'se  ne*er  awse,"  i.  e,  I  should  never 
attempt  It.  "  Did  he  do  so-and-so  ?  "  "Well,  he 
awsed*' — he  tried,  but  evidently  failed.  Northern 
ears  are  greatly  amused  by  the  impertinent  intru- 


sion of  poor  letter  r  into  the  ^emetic  melliitfol 
spellers  bom  south  of  Uie  Trent  MJrrisule 
nerves  used  to  be  tried  in  mj  childhood  bj  tbe 
direction  of  my  Italian  grammsTi  that  I  mut 
sound  the  letter  a  as  oA  or  or.  The  result  of 
carrying  it  out  would  have  agonised  a  Florentme, 
as  well  as  " 


A  Suicide  (4*«»  S.  ix.  820. 452.)— See  the  same 
idea — a  man  commits  suicide  because,  firstly,  one 
was  obliged  always  to  be  winding  up  one*s  watch; 
secondly,  that  iJondon  was  too  small;  thirdly, 
that  it  therefore  wanted  variety;  and  foortUy, 
that  there  was  too  much  dost  in  it — ^in  the  stotj 
of  Parkle's  friend  ''  in  chambers,*'  one  of  the  aiti- 
cles.in  Dickens's  UHcommercial  TrtfotUer. 

Nephbiti. 

When  were  Spanish  Ovioirs  nrrBODuoED 
INTO  England  ?  {A^  S.  ix.  484.)— If  Hnxn- 
TRUDE  means  the  Allium  magicumy  it  is  stated  in 
Donn*s  Horius  Cantabrigienm  to  have  been  fixtt 
brought  into  England  in  1506.  F.  C.  H. 


NOTES  ON  BOOKS.  ETa 

History  of  IfertfordBhire,  eouiaimmg  am  Aeeommi  of  Ik 
DesctHU  of  the  various  Mamort,  Ptdigrtn  </  Fkmlm 
connected  with  the  County,  Antiquiiiew,  Looai  Onimt, 
^c.     Chiefly  commled  from  Original  M88.  in  tkg  Jb- 
cord  Office  and  British  Jkftueumj  Parodkkd  RigiitKn, 
I^cal  Archive*,  and  Cotteetiona  m  poMaetaSom  of  /W- 
vate  FamilieM.    ParU  IIL  and  IV.  Hundndpf  Ed- 
vinitree.    By  John  Edwin  CoasanB,    (HoUen.) 
After  flome  delay,  occasioned  by  caosei  not  likely  ■gaia 
to  interfere  with  the  reffuiar  progress  of  hia  workilfR 
Cu88ans  has  renamed  the  pablication  of  thia  new  aad 
handsome  contribution  to  our  county  history.    Two  oat 
of  the.  eight  hundreds  into  which  the  coonty  is  dirldsd 
are  completed  ^  and  we  do  not  know  that  W6  can  men 
effectually  draw  attention  to  the  extent  of  If  r.  Cumu^ 
labours  than  by  enumerating  the  parities  which  an 
described  in  his  account  of  the  Hundroda  of  firaagbiBC 
and  Edwinstree.     They  are  Alburr,  Anaten,  AapendaB, 
Bark  way.  Barley,  Biahon-Stortford,  Branshing^  Buck- 
land,  Eastwick,  Gilston,  Much  Hadham,  Little  Hadhaa, 
(xreat  and  Little  Ilormead,  Hunsdon,  Layaton,  Mocadoo, 
iircnt,  Fumeaux,  and  Stocking  Pelbam,  Sawbridnrarth, 
SUndon.  Stanstead  Abbots,  Thoiiqr,  Throekinff,  Than- 
dridge,  Ware,  West  Mell  and  Widford.    Tha  ««Hiiiidnd 
of  Odsey  "  is  at  press,  and  will  be  ready  for  ddiTarr  rerr 
ahortly.     The  impreasion  is  limited  to  thtee  handM 
copies,  of  which  serenty-five  are  on  larg«  paper,  which  ii 
in  a  great  measure  a  guarantee  for  its  iocreaaiag  TaliNL 

Pre-Hi»toric  Phaaea ;  or,  Introdmetoy  Eaaaga  on  Pn- 
Historic  Archaology,  By  Hoddtr  M.  WeatranL  Ao- 
thor  of  *«The  Handbook  of  Ardueolofrr."^  JFU 
Ittuatrationa,    (Bell  k  Daldy.) 

Though  of  very  recent  origin,  Pre-mitoric  ArduBolflp 
which,  as  onr  author  reminds  na,  has  beta  wdOdalfiia 
as  "  the  history  of  men  and  things  that  have  no  histmy* 
has  made  rapid  progreaa,  whether  we  look  to  the  MiaBWe 
results  which  have  been  obtained,  or  the  hold  whkh  it  ii 
saining  upon  public  favour.    To  the  many  who  desfat  la 


know  what  sermons  there  are  in  these  atone  ImplaBMDti^ 
and  other  remains  of  similar  character,  Mr.  wiitnfp'^ 


4rtiS.IX.  Jusx22,72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


625 


Tolame,  with  its  namfroas  lUustrationR,  mMnj  orieinal 
and  many  contributed  by  brother  archcologists,  furnisbes 
a  pleasant  and  instractive  answer. 

Th*  Pruiiian  Raet  ethnologicallu  considered;  to  which  if 
appended  an  Account  of  the  Bombardment  of  the  Mu- 
seum of  Natural  Hiatoru,  Sec,  by  the  Frisians  in 
January f  1871.  Bv  Jean-Louis  Armsnd  de  Qo&trefages, 
Member  of  the  Institute,  Professor  of  Anatomy  and 
Ethnology  at  the  Museum,  &c.  Translated  by  Isabella 
Innes.     (Virtue.) 

Everybody  must  sympathize  with  the  author  of  this 
little  volume  and  his  coadjutors  of  the  Museum  of  Natural 
History,  who  reads  his  painful  account  of  the  destruction 
which 'the  shells  of  the  Prussians  effected  in  the  scene  of 
their  studies.  With  the  convictions  which  he  entertains, 
that  this  bombardment  was  intentional,  M.  de  Quatre- 
fages  must  be  more  than  a  man  if  be  could  discuss  with 
p^ect  impartiality  the  ethnology  of  the  race  of  his  be- 
siegers ;  and  we  are  not,  therefore,  surprised  at  his  con- 
tention that,  ethnologicslly  speaking,  Prussia  is  almost 
entirely  a  foreigner  in  Germany,  or,  as  he  quotes  from 
M.  Godron,  **the  Prussians  are  neither  Germans  nor 
.  Slaves.  The  Prussians  are  Prussians."  The  work  is  one 
of  curious  interest,  and  ably  translated. 

Jlistory  of  Ancient  Manuscripts,    A  Lecture  delivered  in 
the  Hall  of  the  Inner  Temple.    By  William  Forsyth, 
Esq.,  Q.C.,  LL.D.,  Treasurer  of  the  Inn.  Printed  at  the 
Request  of  the  Masters  of  the  Bench.    (Murray.) 
Seeing  how  much  the  profession,  of  -^hich  the  author 
of  this  pleasant  lecture  is  a  distinguished  ornament,  has 
to  do  with  ancient  writings,  the  subject  of  the  present  dis- 
course must  be  admitted  to  be  one  well  suited  to  his 
auditors.    The  theme  is  a  large  one,  but  in  a  small  com- 
pass its  most  salient  points  are  so  well  brought  out  and 
pleasantly  illustrated,  that  it  is  no  wonder  those  who 
heard  the  lecture  wished  to  see  it  in  print. 

The  School  Boards.  Our  Educational  Parliament^  1872. 
Compiled  and  Edited  by  Kobert  Henry  Mair,  EditT  of 
*  Debrett's  House  of  Commons,"  &c,  (Dean  A  Son.) 
Education  is  the  great  social  question  of  our  day.  Par- 
liament votes  liberally  in  support  of  it;  rates  are  levied 
and  public  subscriptions  contributed  to  an  enormous 
amount^  and  we  see  for  the  first  time  the  system  of  com- 
pnlsor}'  education  in  full  work.  To  whom* this  work  has 
been  entrusted  is  therefore  a  question  of  no  slight  import- 
ance. Mr.  Mair's  volume  supplies  the  answer.  It  con- 
tains a  List  of  all  the  Boroughs  and  Parishes  which  have 
elected  School  Boards,  and  the  names  of  those  so  elected  ; 
and  that  information  is  supplemented  by  biographical 
sketches  of  the  several  members.  The  result  is  one  of 
those  useful  volumes  which  eventually  become  indispens- 
able as  a  companion  to  the  Army,  Navy,  Clergy,  and  Liw 
Lists,  Medical  Director}',  &c. 

Works  of  Henry  Lord  Brougham,    Volume  II.    (A.  &  C. 
Black,  Edinburgh.) 

The  second  volume  of  this  new  and  very  cheap  edition 
is  now  before  us.  It  contains  the  **  Men  of  Letters  of  the 
Time  of  Geoifce  III.,"  and  is  furnished  with  a  good  Index. 
Next  month  we  are  promised  the  lirst  series  of  historical 
sketches  of  the  statesmen  of  the  same  period. 

History  of  the  Burgh  of  Duwkfries,  with  Notices  of  Niths- 

dtde,  Annandale,  and  the    Western  Border.      Second 

Edition^  revised  and  enlarged.    By  William  McDowall, 

^         Author  of  <'  Bums  in  Dumfriesshire,"  &c  PaHs  I.  to  V. 

•         (A.  t:  C.  Black.) 

Some  years  ago  Mr.  McDowall,  a  gentleman  favour- 
ably known  fVom  his  connection  with  the  local  press, 
availed  himself  of  the  facilities  which  his  position  afforded 
him,  and  of  the  infornlation  so  acquired,  to  publish  a 


history  of  Dumfries.  The  work  was  received  so  fkvour- 
ably  that  a  second  edition  has  been  called  for.  Thia  will 
be  completed  in  twelve  monthly  parta,  five  of  which  are 
now  ready.  The  author  has  availed  himself  of  the  oppor- 
tunity of  revising  and  enlarging  the  work,  and  the  nar- 
rative of  the  burgh  history  will  be  brought  down  to  the 
close  of  1871. 

Traces  of  History  in  the  Names  of  Places.  With  a  Vocabu- 
lary of  the  Roots  out  of  which  Names  of  Places  in  Eng- 
land 'and  Wales  are  formed.  By  ilavell  Edmunds. 
New  Edition.    (Longmans.) 

We  are  glad  to  find  the  commendation  which  we  were 
enabled  to  bestow  upon  this  work,  on  its  first  anpearance, 
justified  by  the  general  voice  of  the  reading  public.  This 
new  edition  is  not  only  thoroughly  revised,  but  contains 
the  result  of  Mr.  Edmunds'  inquiries  into  two  questions 
of  great  philological  and  antiquarian  interest,  namely, 
the  compisrative  antiquity  of  the  Cymric  and  Gaelic 
branches  of  the  original  Celtic  tongue ;  and  the  theory 
of  the  existence  of  a  population  in  these  islands  anterior 
to  the  Britons. 

Drath  of  Sir  Thomas  E.  Winnihotow,  Bart. — 
We  are  sure  that  all  our  readers  will  share  the  deep 
regret  with  which  we  announce  the  death  of  this  amiable 
and  accomplished  gentleman,  to  whom  these  columns 
have  been  indebted  for  many  interesting  and  suggestive 
communications.  The  manuscript  treasures  at  Stanford 
Court  were  always  placed  by  him  at  the  use  of  scholars 
or  learned  societies ;  and  the  Camden  Society,  of  which 
he  had  been  for  many  years  one  of  the  council,  was  in- 
debted to  him,  among  other  kindnesses,  for  two  of  the 
most  important  publications  issued  bv  it,  namely,  the  BMl 
of  the  Household  Expenses  of  Richard  de  Swinfidd,  Bishop 
of  Hereford,  1289-90,  so  admirably  edited  by  the  late 
Kev.  John  Webb ;  and  Dingley*s  History  from  Marble^ 
which  was  (with  its  innumerable  drawings  of  ancient 
remains  reproduced  in  fac-simile  bv  photo-lithography) 
eiiited  with  great  care  bv  Mr.  J.  Uough  Nichols  —  one 
of  the  most  curious  .books  yet  produced  by  any  of  the 
publishing  societies.  Sir  Thomas  Winvixotoit,  died 
on  Sunday  last,  the  16th  instant,  in  his  sixty-first  year. 

Mr.  W.  G.  Palorave  has  in  the  press  a  volume  of 
essays  on  Eastern  sulyects,  to  be  published  by  Messrs. 
Macmillan.  **  Eastern  Christians,"  from  the  Quarterly  Re- 
viewy  and  Some  articles  on  Mahometanism  in  the  Levant, 
will  form  part  of  the  book. 


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I-,ORD  CAMrBKLl/s  ♦*LlYF.S  OF  THE  CHANCELLORS.** — 
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trhftt  had  bvfnrc  bten  naid  of  the  h'uujraphies  of  the  notori- 
-yus  Curll — "77ity  added  a  new  terror  to  death.** 

C.  0«ILVY  (liOurnomoutlO. —  What  is  utually  called  the 
Christiau  uame^  i»  knoirn  amnnfj  the  Jv:r»  ug  the  first 
fiame, 

li.  A.  (St.  .Tiimos'js  (^lulO — For  the  anecdote  of  JJingenes* 
Inniern  see   "N.  &  Q."  ;;'■>  S.  vii.  uG«. 

Benkdioi'  will  find  all  he  witftes  to  know  in  Tho  His- 
torv  and  Toctrv  of  Finger  lUn^,  ht/  Charles  Edward, 
18.^5. 

.JoiiN  KKY>*i)Li)S  (MeatlO. — TIte  office  of  Pincema,  or 
king's  cnjh-hrar  frowns  common  to  the.  household  of  the  kings 
of  all  nations,  and  is  evidently  <f  Eastern  origin  (iVtAe- 
miah  i.  11).  In  Scotland,  7tot  only  the  monarch,  hut  also 
the  more  jMtint  churchmen,  had  their  cup-brarers. 

n.  P. — Anticipated.  I 

C.  D.  L. —  Your  rude,  we  fear,  is  *'  too  detailed^*  for  our 
columns. 

Errata.— 4'h  S.  ix.  p.  452.  col.  ii.  line  9,  for  "  The 
Eastern  News "  read  "  The  Eastern  Momint;  News  " ; 
p.  48.').  col.  i.  line  21  from  Ixittom,  hejorc  "Draughts 
Move  "  nwr^  "  Chaucer :  *I)etheof  Blaunche*  (4*  S.  ix. 
465)  " ;  p.  489,  col.  ii.  line  21  from  l>ottom,/«r  "  from  my 
ffan-wy'^  rend**  from  pronoun  my  and  ffanwy.** 

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THE  LITERT  COLLAR  OP  ESSES. 
"N.  &  Q."  has  heretofore  contained  many 
apeculations  upon  thU  ancieQl;  hndgo  of  honour 
and  allegisace;  speculationa  pursued  uutO  the 
Editor  coQEidered  that  his  readers,  as  well  as  him- 
aelf,  were  thoroughly  bored  with  them.  I  trust, 
however,  he  wiU  permit  me  to  put  in  a  eaveat  to 
a  new  and  strange  theory  lately  promotgated  in 
one  of  the  works  of  the  M  aster  of  the  Bolls'  Series. 
It  oecnrs  in  voL  ii.  ;p^  390  of  the  Official  Corre- 

Stmdeitee  of  noma*  Bdajniim,  Seattary  to  King 
enry  VI.  and  BMop  o/'  Balh  md  WelU,  edited 
ljyGeo^WUliamH,B.D.,  1879.  In  these  l«ttera 
tbe  "  devisa  seu  liberatura  noatiA  de  collera"  is 
twice  mentioned ;  fiiat  (L  30)  aa  coafened  in  1440 
upon  Angelo  Gattola,  a  gentleman  of  the  Pope's 
boasehold,  who  had  brought  the  cardinal's  bat 
for  Archbishop  Semp ;  and  again  (i.  216)  in  a 
letter  dated  1437,  as  having  been  formerly  be- 
atowed  on  Heniy  Vonat,  an  eminent  citizen  of 
DantzicL  These  passagee  nre  rise  to  no  fewer 
than  thne  entries  in  ika  Mitor'a  "  Gloaaary  of 
Bare  Words  and  Index  of  Places  less  commonly 
known,"  via. :  — 

'  CoLLRRA,  i  sit ;  eoUo  of  Cmb,  >.  c  oT  SS.,  s  d«- 
eoration  giva  toftniaxoTon.  IiMtUutad  bv  Henry  T. 

on  the  eve  of  the  batUa  of  A^eodrt.    S«e  Introdneuon, 
p.  xzx.  note." 


In  explaining  that  the  king''s  collar  was  tho 
Collar  of  Essea,  the  editor  perfonna  his  proper 
duty :  and  there  can  he  no  barm  in  hia  adding  - 
that  it  was  a  decoration  given  to  f:>reign  enToya, 
for  his  text  prures  as  much.  But  when  he  pod- 
tively  aflirniB  that  it  was  "instituted  bv Henry  V. 
on  the  eve  of  the  battle  of  Agincoort,  he  is  pro- 
mulgating a  statement  as  incorrect  as  it  is 
1  fectly  new.  It  appears  in  hia  note  (p,  i 
'  Mr.  Williams  falls  into  this  error  by  misinter- 
preting  the  import  of  a  passage  quoted  by  Favyn, 
I  m  hia  Hiatory  of  Knigmkood,  hoTa  the  chronicler 
Juvenal  des  Urains — "  II  leur  donna  congS  de  por- 
I  ler  un  collier  eemd  de  lettres  S.  de  son  ordre " ; 
'  that  is  to  Bay,  that. King  HeoiT  V.  gave  leave  to 
I  those  who  went  with  him  to  Agincourt  to  wear 
I  bis  liverj  collar.  The  chronicler  states  at  the- 
samo  time  that  the  king  ennobled  them  all,  tf 
they  were  not  nobles  already — a  statement  wtaieli 
Sir  Harris  Nicolnx,  in  hia  Hidoiy  of  the  Battle  i^ 
Agincourt,  discredits  as  being  highly  impTobable; 
but  which  appears  to  have  been  founded  upon 
the  permission  which  (see  Rvmer,  ix.  4G7)  was 
actually  granted  by  Henry  V. — not  before,  bnt 
two  years  after  the  battle — that  those  who  had 
borne  cost-armure  at  Agincourt  should  not  be 
required  io  prove  any  earlier  title  to  it.  Shake- 
speare's extravagant  veraion  of  the  same  incident 
I  will  be  remembered  I  but  for  an  impartial  eati- 
I  mate  of  the  whole  evidence,  I  may  r^fer  to  the 
GentkmaHt  Magazine  for  March  1843,  p.  SJSSl 
It  is  scarcely  aecesaary  to  remind  any  reader  of 
I  the  date  of  the  field  of  Agincourt,  fought  in  1416 ; 
and  it  is  suffidont  to  say,  in  correction  of  Mr. 
Williame,  that  there  exist  very  numerous  records, 
both  historical  and  monumental,  of  the  Collar  of 
EAsbs  throug-bout  the  reign  of  Heniy  IV.,  that  ia, 
for  at  least  fifteen  years  before  Agincourt.  Thar» 
is  evidence  to  show  that  the  letter  S  was  the 
device,  and  the  Collar  of  Eases  the  livery,  of 
Henry  IV.  whilst  he  was  as  yet  only  Earl  of 
Derby;  and  further,  I  diatinctly  believe  that  tliis 
was  originally  the  device  of  his  father  John  of 
Ghent,  Duke  of  Lancaster.  I  have  now  for  many 
yeara  taken  it  to  be  the  initial  of  SentieMku,  or 
Steward  of  England,  the  high  office  of  J(rfin  of 
Ghent;  and,  though  I  have  found  no  abaolote 
pit>of  of  this  interpretntioii,  I  have  met  with 
nothing  to  contravert  it  As  early  as  1394  we 
find  King  Richard  IL  wearing  the  collar  of  hia 
good  uncle  the  Duka  of  Qnienne  and  LanCMter, 
and  that  on  authority  no  less  substantial  than  the 
rolls  of  Parliament,  and  a  window  that  existed 
'  near  the  duke'a  monument  in  the  old  othedial  of 
St  Paul's  seems  to  show  the  ealUx^V««*\«w». 
1  the  Coliu  ot  'E«M».   \  TBHii  tAa  ^Il  *■  wnsmwg^ 


ft 

usujilly  (•'•nfiisc  nii'l  mi>MTnl«r-'lai;il  t!i»»  \v<>r.!s  m,! 
and  linr;/.  In  this  m-^i'  Mr.  \N"illiam>  Irn  in  ••tn 
of  till'  ab'«v»' articl''.-; '•!'  \n^  ■^\'>^^i\Ty  rrrcl  in  >iyii 
tno  niuc-h.  A  bii'lu'*'  nuiy  li'-l-nj-  I'  "an  <»r'I' 
of  knifrlilh<»<>d,"  in  the  njndi.Tn  >»'n-'  '>f  an  drdfi 
but  tho  Collar  of  J']sst»s  wa.s  not  a  l)adir<« «)!'  kniLrli 
hood,  bt'inij  worn  (in  ^ilv»'r,  nn<:ilt.)  by  t'S'iuir.'.^ 
08  it  is  Htill  bv  the  hi.'rald"  of  arms,  and  tin*  s-i 
jcantH  of  the  royal  hou-<»'b<»ld. 

Again,  a  "  livrry,"  thonu'h  in  modorn  nrcf'ptn 
tion  usually  applied  to  ii  "  uniform  of  dros>,"  wii 
not  iu  nucient  tim«'.s  noci'-sarily  an  articb.'  « 
dress,  or  necos.«nrily  a  uniform.  Th»'ro  w»t 
liveries  of  moat  and  drink,  as  widl  as  liveries  «. 
robes  or  hoods,  of  collars  or  had;r»'3. 

Perhap8  I  may  bo  porniittcd  further  to  poin 
out,  thoujifli  it  is  by  no  uwans  f<ir  th*'  lirst  tini' 
that  tho  French  orih'(\  in  its  oriirinal  (uTcptatinn 
was  neither  more  nor  less  than  rquivulmt  t<i  th' 
Latin  l%lH:ratura  and  our  Kn^'lish  iiirn/ :  but  tha 
sense  Ls  altojrothor  dillorent  to  th^  nn.anin^  Avhii-l 
has  more  recently  attach».'d,  both  in  J^'n'neh  ain 
in  English,  to  an  order  of  knijrhtliond.   Th.'  latt"i 
answers  to  the  French  aornfe  or  f'ratrruifi-.  and  t- 
our  company  or  hrotherhuofl.     It  is  tantamount  t- 
the  religious  orders  of  monks  or  friars.     An  ordei 
of  knighthood  comprehends  a  company  or  frater- 
nity  of  knights;    whereas    tho   w«?Mr'*rs   of  ih» 
Collars  of  Esses,  whether  knijrhts   or  oaquire^. 
were  no  fraternity  or  society  at  all,  but  individual 
wearing  the  royal  onlrv^  or  liverv,   in  token  ul 
their  personal    allegiance    or  oblijrnti.fti   to  tin* 
sovereign  whose  ensign  it  was.     Since  I  wr-ti' 
before  to  "N.  &  Q."  on  this  subject,  the  institu- 
tion of  the  Victoria  Cross  has  furnished  a  modern 


4<'S.IX.  Jdiib29,'TS.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Messrs.  Gilbert  a  Beckett  and  Henry  Majhew 
before  they  were  out  of  their  teens.  All  that  ia 
ttad  of  Tke  Penny  Satiritt  upplies  to  The  Satiritt, 
Its  predecesaor.  The  latter  was  a  scaadsloua 
fivepennj'  paper.  No  peiiiij  newspaper  could 
have  exiated  in  the  daya  of  The  AdirM,  as 
the  etamp  duty  on  esch  sheet  was  threepence. 
Eliza   Grimwood   was  murdered   nearly    twenty 

Jaiae  before  that  tax  was  abolished.  Mr.  Douglas 
enold  had  QothinK  to  do  with  Tht  Penm/  Punch. 
It  is  aaid  he  once  threatened  his  colleagues,  while 
COfflplainiiig  that  Punch  was  becoming  ius^iictive 
and  dull,  that  he  would  start  a  riraij  and  call  it 
"The  Comic  Punch."  W. 

Sbemrda. 

I  subjoin  a  list  of  additions  to  Mr.  Ratneb'b 
list.  He  is  mistaken  in  saying  that  "  George 
Cruikshank"  illustrated  Punchinello,  which  was 
.  atarted  early  in  1854.  Georg«  Cruikshank,  jun., 
was  the  illustrator  of  Toby,  edited  by  Fercy 
Cruikshank.  Angus  Reach  succeeded  Albert 
Smith  Bs  editor  of  Hit  Man  in  the  Moon,  many 
of  the  illustrations  to  which  were  by  Messrs.  Sala 
And  Brough.  WUl-o'-lhe-Wi«p  was  edited  by 
Hamilton  Hume.  Patguin  was  started  Jan.  26, 
1660,  price  three  halfpence,  illustrated  by  OsTomi, 
Kenny  Meadows,  4c.: — 

Tki  Great  Gun.  No.  1,  March  30,  18^5.  pricB  Bd. 
niustrstcd  by  "Phiz,"  Richitrd  Doylt,  Iline,  "Alfred 
Cnnrquill,"  ^c 

Tht  Caraie  Timet.  No.  t,  Aagnst  10,  IS65,  prico  ^d. 
lUnstratHl  by  C.  H.  BennMt,  Brougb,  Nawmaa,  McCoa- 

Comic  Optnimt.  Ko.  1,  Dec«mb«r  1,  1870,  price  \d. 

Girl  of  the  Ftriod  Muerlhiy.  No.  1,  Manh,  1889, 
price  (d.     Illanrnted  br  Min  CUxton. 

The  Draicixg-Room  bUttlmti  Rwi'w,  No.  1,  Dee.  16, 
18G0.  prira  6d.     niuMrited  by  ■'  Phii." 

The  Tom  and  Cotniry  MiM^Iany.  tAiixA  by  Albftt 
Smith.  Nu.  1,  April,  ISoU,  priue  6d.  Six  numbcn  only 
pubtiihed. 

The  Month,  edited  by  Albert  Smith,  JIlaKlraCed  bv 
John  Leech,  No,  1,  July,  1861,  price  li.  Sis  numbera 
oalr  published. 

the  Almaiwch  of  Ihe  Month,  edit«d  by  Gilbert  Abbot 
A  Beclcell,  illuatraled  by  Rlchanl  Doyle,  No.  I,  Jan.  18(6, 
pries  It.    Twelie  nanibers  published. 

lAfi:  Ihe  Mirtxr  of  the  Millin,  No.  1,  Feb.  2, 1B5I), 
price  Irf.     niostrBled  by  "Phiz,"  Doyle,  Keany  Mea- 

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hairpence.  Illtutratwl  fay  Ridurd  Dovle,  KEnny  Uca- 
ioyn,  Giirarai,  fline,  ke. 

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In,  ilhutmlcd  by  6.  Cmlkahaok.  No.  1, 'January,  1854, 
price  li.    Ontv  three  nnmbeTi  publiihed. 

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The  coniecutire  order  in  which  the  contents  of 
the  first  volume  were  enumerated  did  not  admit 
of  references  nnd  extracts,  which  may  appro- 
priately be  added  to  those  already  ^ven. 

P.  495.  "De  compute  ecclesiastico,"  &C. — On 
several  pointsof  astrology  the  writings  of  Bedeai« 
reviewed  in  Encycl.  Metropol,  i.  471.  One  of  his 
treatises  (p.  459)  is  upon  the  signification  of 
thunder  in  dlflerent  months,  and  upon  the  dif- 
ferent days  of  the  week.  This  he  translated  from 
the  common  tongue  into  Latin  at  the  desire  o£ 
Herenfrid.  The  trestise  itself  is  curious  as  an. 
authentic  register  of  the  popular  or  rather  learned 
superstitions  on  this  subject  which  then  pre- 
vailed. The  epistle  to  Herenfrid  which  sccom- 
panies  it  is  more  so;  for  Beda  speaks  of  the  task 
which  this  father  hod  imposed  upon  him  as  a 
dangerous  one,  and  entreats  hia  protection  against 
those  who  would  malign  him  as  a  proficient  ia 
the  block  art  for  meddling  with  such  prognostica- 
tions. Prom  the  manner  in  which  he  eipresse* 
himself,  it  appears  that  he  waa  as  obnoxious  tt> 
acrimonious  and  malignant  criticism  as  if  he  bad 
lived  in  the  nineteenth  century  (Southey).  Cfr. 
"  De  Natura  Rerum,"  i.  xxviii, ;  Lucretius,  vi.  96, 
On  his  astronomical  science,  see  Milman'a  L<din 
Chriitiartity,  ii.  S9,  and  Wright's  Popular  Treatiiet 

"  In  the  treatise  '  De  Temp.  Ital.'  Beds  girea  an  ex- 
planation of  tbe  Anglo-Saxon  names  of  [he  monlhi, 
which  shows  tbat  he  paid  atlentlaa  to  the  anliiiuitif*  of 
the  language  aod  cnatoms  of  his  ooantryinen,  and  ia  ■ 
valuable  ilinstration  of  Annlo-Saion  mytholoKT." — 
Ifrighl.  . 

His  poemnta  conclude  with  "Afanfredi  Cat- 
mina"  (pp.  620-37),  tbe  appendix  to  which  h4S 
these  remarkable  verses :  — 


"  Kobillbus  (juondttm  Tueras  constmcta  patnml^ 
Bubdita  a  one  terait,  heu  male  Koma  mil. 
Dceeraere  tui  tonto  tt  tempore  regei, 
Cm  lit  el  ad  Gneco*  nomen  honosqne  tnoi, 
Conetantinopolia  dorena  nona  Roma  roeatar, 
Moribiu  et  muris  Koma  vetosta  cadis, 
TroDiit  Ct  imperium,  mMuit/]ae  anpertiia  tecom. 
CultDs  inaritiie  (Refu)  te  nlminm  anperat, 
VulgoB  ab  extremis  diitractum  partibni  oibis, 
Servomin  wrvi  nunc  tibi  sunt  domini, 

iDgenuiqae  tui  rnra  PeUtga  colunt. 

Traacasli  viTos  cmdeli  faneie  tanctos, 

Veadere  none  borum  morlua  membra  doles. 

Nam  nisi  te  merilum  Petri  Pautique  foaeret 

Tempore  jam  longo  Boma  misella  foreg." 

"  Rednced  to  ila  naked  majesty,  the  Flavian  amphf- 
theatie  was  contemplated  with  iiro  aod  admiration  by 
Ihe  pilgrinu  of  the  North ;  Bud  their  rade  enthualasm 
broke  forth  in  a  eublime  proverbial  expression,  vhicb  ia 
recorded  in  the  eighth  centnry,  iu  lbs  fragmeDta  of  ihA 


»  Ox>ViKiu&ti<n.\.^sei. 


530 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«*  S.  IX.  JcxB  29, 71 


vencra!ilo  B'-'lo  :  » A*«  lonir  as  thi'  Cvll-scwni  staml*.  Rome 
ahnllNtainl;  v/Iirn  the  Ci'Ii'i'inn  t'.\U^,  K'«>ine  will  fall; 
miit'ii  III  line  falls,  tho  world  will  fill '  (  PilmI.-i  iti  Kxccrptis 
Bcu  (Vl It'll .inds  apinl  Dncaniro.  <i!.><-;ir.  nn-*!.  et  infimsD 
],ntiintati<.  tern.  ii.  p.  -lo;.  <■  i:l.  IJ.i-il  ,  ]».  71'.»,  edit.  Paris 
IT^J^Jj).  This  sayin;;  nm.-:  !>•  :i«»'ril«- 1  i<i  tli-?  Anulo- 
Saxoii  pilirriin.?  who  vi-itcd  l.'tiv.i-  li,  fir.'  tli-'  voir  735, 
the  u-ra  of  r.e'le's  death  :  f  r  I  tU>  r.ri  lielii^vc  that  our 
venerable  niuiik  ever  pas-rd  the  s-.a." — (iibl'nn. 

Conipir^  Slev».'nfton*s  intrijiiclion  to  the  His- 

tor  in  Et  ■c/v-nfisiira. 

**  The  appi-llatinn  (»f  MimiiH-'ia,  whirh  is  fiill  bcsti»wed 
bv  theTiirU.-^  on  IhcextisrHiv'.-'"  luntrii.^i  (d'Tlirare.  M»ee- 
donia,  and  (Jri-eee,  pre««'rvi'.-»  tin;  inemnryuf  th»-ir  ancient 
Btate  under  the  Konian  rnipir..'." — (iif/fnui. 

"  I  will  af^linjiwle'liro,"  write"*  ('asauhi)n.  *'and  it  may 
jrive  some  jjatisfaetinn  ti)  them  iliat  have  ««it  observoil  it, 
that  the  Horn  an  Chureli  may  be  edlrd  the  Catholick 
Church  (it  is  by  some  aneit-nt-'j  in  anotlicr  senjie.  or  re- 
8pcct,  by  a  catachrefiiis  or  h'im»rvniia  of  th^  word  Human. 
Anci(-ntly  Komanus  Orbis,  or  Komanum  Imix.Tium,  Ije- 
cause  of  its  ^rcat  extent  and  f,'enerality»  was  U"'i.'«l  by 
many  in  ordinary  lan;j:iia;;c  as  includinj^  an  Absolute 
t'niversality." — (.'a.^aiduin,  Of  thr  Xtcessit:/  nf  Jiefitrmu' 
Hon  in  aud  lufore  Luthrrs  Tiint\  IilOl. 

The  Koman  langiiapi  also  became   co-oxten- 

pivo :  — 

*•  Imo  et  ip«!i  Gnur'i,  qnamvis  percnltam  habcrcnt 
lin;;uam,  innumera  tamen  Ikomannrum  vo;'aI>ul.i  cum 
istorum  imperio  in  canciem  reeepcrunt." — Michaelcr,  lie 
Ori'jinc.  Lintjinv, 

"*I)3  divinntiono  mortia  t^t  vitrn  cpij*tnla,*' 
p.  .%s. — Wo  are  infcrmed  by  Fabricius  tlint  Mar- 
sham,  in  C'lHonr  ChroH.y  p.  477,  has  miditoly  col- 
b^clcd  many  thinp'.s  pf»rtaining  to  IN^to^iiriiii  and 
Noi'opj^o,  kin;r  of  Egypt,  from  the  most  ancient 
writers  on  judicial  lustrology,  Pliny,  Jul.  For- 
Diicns,  sk.Q.  {Jfihl.  Gro'-.caj  iii.  ol7'). 
^  *'  'Verdus  8ibylliui  de  Christo,"  p.  ;)o:^.— The 
initial  lett^jra  are  acrostics  for  Jesus :  — 

"  J  udieii  sijjcnum  tellus  sudore  madeseet 
E  Civlo  rex  adveuict  per  secla  futuru.-», 
iS  eilicet  in  came  pne?ens,  nt  judit-et  cirhem ; 
I'  nib-  I.)eum  cerncut  incR'dulu.s  atijue  lideliA 
C  elsum/'  etc. 


This  prophecy  of  tlie  Sibyl  is  found  also  in 
Matthjni  Pari.si(3nsis,  Chronica  Majorat  1872,  p.  50, 
where  we  learn  from  the  editor,  Mr.  liUard,  that 
those  and  the  following  verses  occur  in  Martinus 
l*olonus,  Freculplius. 

**Tertii  Tomi  Elenchiis:  Gentis  Anjjlorum  Ec- 
clesiastica  historia  libri  quinque." — This  work  was 
first  printed  at  the  press  of  Conrad  Fyner  at 
Erlin;ren,  about  the  year  1 47;^.  Of  this  very  rare 
edition  there  is  a  copy  in  the  library  of  tho  Earl 
Spencer,  one  in  the  liriti^h  Museum,  and  another 
in  the  lloyal  Library  at  Paris.  It  was  followed 
bv  others  successively  at  Strasbourg  in  1483,  at 
Spires  in  1400,  and  at  Strasbourg  in  1500.  The 
Iiagenau  edition  in  1500,  by  John  Kynman,  is  an 
obvious  reprint  of  tho  first  edition.  It  was  next 
published  singly  at  Antwerp  in  1550,  by  Grreviua, 
m  folio.     It  was  subsequently  printed  several 


times.  According  to  Oudin,  an  edition  of  Beda't 
EccUaia^ical llUtory  was  published  at  Paris,  1651, 
I  among  his  other  works,  but  no  copy  of  it  has  besa 
!  seen  in  England.  Smith's  very  i^uable  edition 
I  at  Cambridge  in  1 772,  in  folio,  contains  all  Beda'a 
I  historical  works,  together  with  an  improred  edi- 
I  tion  uf  the  Anglo-Saxon  translation.  Mr.  Stcyen- 
!  son's  prefaces  and  notes  to  bis  two  Tolumei, 
pu})lished  for  the  lOnglish  Historical  Society,  an 
repliite  with  learned  information.  Professor  Ha*- 
sey,  in  1810,  ha<i  taken  Smith's  text  as  the  basif. 
S»'e  Descriptive  Ctitaloffue  of  Malerials  reiatinji  U 
the  Jlifttonj  of  Great  Britain  and  Inland  (voLi. 
part  i.),  by  [Sir]  Thomas  Duflus  Hardy.  For  an 
account  of  the  English  traniilations,  scet)r.  Gileses 
preface,  vol.  ii.  The  translation  geuerallr  attri- 
buted to  King  Alfred  was  printed  by  Wneloc  id 
his  lA*ffcs  iSiwofiicfT,  1044 :  — 

**  It  i.s  an  abridgment  only  of  the  Latin,  but  it  eoniaiof 
some  small  ndditionii.'* — Hardy, 

**  As  a  !<peclmen  [of  the  earliest  historians  of  modem 
hi:«tory  J  wc  will  take,*'  writes  Dr.  Arnold,  ^  Um  Ckuch 
Xlisfory  of  the  Venerable  liede.  This  work  has  bea 
lately  pablished  ( 1838)  in  a  cun\*eDient  form,  1  voL  Swo, 
by  the  English  Historical  Society ;  and  it  Li  their  editioB 
to  which  my  references  have  been  made.  1  need  scarcer 
remind  vou  of  the  date  and  circumstances  of  Bede'sUe. 
Bom  in  G74,  only  fifty  years  after  the  flight  of  MahoBWt 
from  Mecca,  he  died  at  the  age  of  sixty-one  in  735 ;  two 
or  tliree  years  after  that  great  victorv'of  Charles  Mattel 
over  the  Saracens,  whicli  delivered  l^rance  and  Eimpe 
from  Malxmietan  conquest.  At  seven  vears  old  he  was 
placed  under  the  care  of  the  abbot  of  VVearmouth,  and 
from  that  monastery  he  removed  to  the  neighbonrias 
one  of  .Tarrow,  and  there  p:is'<i'd  the  remainder  of  his  life. 
He  was  ordained  deacon  in  his  nineteenth  year,  and 
priest  in  his  thirtieth,  and  bevond  these  two 'events  we 
know  nothing  of  his  extemaf  life  except  his  writingii 
....  His  Kcelesiluitical  IIL*tory,  in  five  books,  emtousn 
the  period  from  Angustine\s  arrival  in  b97,  down  to  the 
year  731,  only  four  years  before  his  own  deatii ;  so  that 
for  a  considerable  portion  of  the  time  to  which  it  rdat» 
hi.-)  work  irt  a  contemporary  history, 

**  In  liede  wc  shall  find  no  political  questions  of  any 
kind  to  create  any  difficnlty ;  nor  are  there  thoee  varied 
detail.4  of  war  and  peace,  which,  before  they  can  be 
vividly  com])reheuded,  rcquiie  a  certain  d^rcc  of  misefll- 
lancous  knowledge.  I  may  notice  then  in  him  one  or 
two  thinix^  which  belong;,  more  or  leu,  to  all  hiitory. 

First  lan;ini<i^e As  a  single  and  ver\'  liviiliar 

instance  of  the  difference  betwe«i  classical  Latin  and 
low  Latin,  I  may  notice  the  perpetual  usage  of  the  coa- 

j  unction  quia  in  the  latter,  in  the  eense  <tf  the  Gieek  Sfi: 

*  Nosti  quia  ad  tui  oris  imperium  semper  virere  stndni  *— 

*  Thou  knowcst  that  I  have  ever  been  careful  to  live  in 
obcflicnce  to  thy  words'  (iv.  29).  This  oecun  in  the 
Latin  of  unclaseical  writers  ooDtinnally;  I  do  not  kavr 
what  is  the  earliest  Instance  of  it,  but  it  is  freqneBt  in 
the  I^tin  version  of  the  Scriptures,  which  was  vaed  hy 
the  Western  churches  before  Jerome's  time  aad  ia  tas 
old  Ijitin  translation  of  Irenaeus,  &e.  [Oft*.  Jortin*s  Bt- 
tftnrkg  on  EccL  Hist.,  ii.  377.  **  With  reference  to  ^iieiuaa 
Tertnllian  is  .very  fond  of  this  woxd.  See  jipoL  c  17. 
Qmmiam  is  Sri,  quod.""] 

On  the  miraculous  stories  of  Bade  and  other 

historians  he  observes :  — 


34^  S.  IX.  June  29, 72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


531 


**  There  is  ia  minds  heoltbfulij  constituted  a  belief, 
and  a  disbelief,  fn^unded  solely  upon  the  evidence  of  the 
case,  arising  neither  out  of  partiality  nor  out  of  prejudice 
against  the  supposed  conclusions  which  may  result  fh>m 
Hs  truth  or  falsehood.  And  in  such  a  spdrit  the  his- 
torical student  will  consider  the  cases  of  Bede's  and  other 
historians'  miracles.  He  will,  I  think,  as  a  general  rule 
disbelieve  them :  for  the  immense  multitude  which  he 
finds  recorded,  and  which  I  suppose  no  credulity  could 
believe  in,  shows  sufficiently  that  on  this  point  there  was 
a  total  want  of  judgment,  and  a  blindness  of  belief 
generally  existing,  which  makes  the  tratimony  wholly 
insufficient ;  and  while  the  external  evidence  in  favour 
of  these  alleged  miracles  is  so  unsatisfactory,  there  are 
for  the  most  part  strong  internal  improbabilities  against 
them." — Introdurtory  Lecturrt  on  Modem  Hi$tory, 

Cfr.  Collier's  Eccles,  History  of  Great  Britain^ 
which  ia  a  most  faithful  commentary  on  Bede 
throughout.  Bibuothecah.  CnBXHAM. 


A  PARODY  ON  "CUILDE  HAROLD." 

There  have  been  several  papers  lately  in 
"  N.  &  Q."  on  the  subject  of  parodies,  which 
recalled  to  memory  one  that  I  wrote  more  than 
forty  years  ago ;  and  which  may,  at  this  distance 
of  time,  afford  amusement  without  political  or 
religious  acrimony.  Of  course  the  catastrophe 
was  only  a  poetical  imagination ;  though  the  club 
and  chairman  had  actual  existence. 

A  Brunswick  Club  had  been  formed  in  a  certain 

city,  of  which  Col.  H y  was  the  chairman. 

On  the  first  news  of  the  Catholic  Belief  Bill  having 
been  brought  into  Parliament,  the  following  ci|ta- 
strophe  was  supposed  to  hare  hc^pened :  — 

There  was  a  sound  of  revelry  by  night. 

And  N k*s  capital  had  gathered  then 

Her  loyalists  and  Brunswickers,  and  bright 

The  lamps  shone  o'er  her  patriots  and  bravo  men. 

Some  dozen  lungs  roared  lustily,  and  when 

The  clubbists  spouted  with  surpassing  swell. 

Spoke  and  were  cheered — were  cheered  and  spoke  again. 

All  went  on  noisy  as  a  dustman's  bell : 

But  hi(sh  I  hark !  a  deep  sound  strikes  like  a  rising  knell. 

Did  ye  not  hear  it  ?  No  ;  'twas  but  the  wind. 
Or  the  car  rattling  o'er  the  stony  street : 
On  with  the  speeches  I  bluster  unconfined ; 
No  truce  till  mom  when  brainless  bigots  meet. 
To  chase  the  dreaded  Pope  with  eager  feet 
Bat  hark !  tliat  heavy  sound  breaks  in  once  more. 
As  if  the  clouds  its  echo  would  repeat ; 
And  nearer,  clearer,  deadlier  than  before — 
Arm,  arm !  it  is — it  is  Emancipation's  roar ! 

Proud,  on  the  cushioned  chair  of  that  high  hall, 
Sat  Brunswick's  fated  chairman  :  he  did  hear 
That  sound  the  first  the  clubbi.it*s  train  of  all, 
And  caught  its  tone  with  death's  prophetic  ear ; 
And  when  they  marvelled  that  he  deemed  it  near, 
His  heart  more  truly  knew  that  peal  too  well 
Which  fiUed  ''Old  Bags*'  with  such  a  panic  fear; 
He  hurried  to  a  shop,  where  ropes  they  sell. 
Mounted  a  lamp-post — fixed  his  noose'— and  fell ! " 

F.  C.  HL 


I 


TO  MY  DEARE  FFRIEND,  H.  T.  E.,  ON  RE- 
CEIVING HIS  OPVS  MAGNVM  DE  CAM- 
PANI^, 

Greate  Tome  is  come  I  Greate  Tome  is  come ! 

Yee  Pettie  Tingtangs,  now  bee  dum  ! 

Lvkis  and  Tysseny  you  noe  more 

Can  charme  vs  with  your  yaried  store, 

Though  Menn  of  Mettall  both  wee  owne, 

And  oft  haue  stroue  to  catch  your  Tone. 

Yea,  Maueuj  thy  Melodiovs  Song 

Now  soyndeth  somehow  crackt  and  wrong. 

Campanists  all,  Looke,  Brothers,  Lookc  ! 

Loe !  Here's  a  passing  goodlie  Booke. 

Marke  how  the  Cutters  Art  adorns  the  Page^ 

And  shews  ts  howe  they  stampt  in  euerie  Age 

The  ffovndors'  markes  am  letters  strange 

That  on  the  Brass  Perennial  neuer  change, 

Bvt  to  the  CvrioYS  Eies  that  scan  them  wel     . 

Fvll  manye  a  Tale  of  Olden  Craft  cann  tel. 

Long  lookt  for,  com  at  last,  Thou,  Mightie  Tome 

Shalt  soynd  in  ears  of  Men  'till  Day  of  Dome. 

Expectans  expedaui  long  I  sang. 

And  on  that  Theme  the  Doleful!  Changes  rang ; 

But  now,  Away  with  MelanchoUy !  Museck  trew 

embrace,* 
Greate  Tome  doth  driue  all  clowds  firom  euerie 

fface.  J.  T.  F. 

Air  Old  Volume  op  MS.  Poems,  etc.— I  have  a 
yolume  of  satirical  poems  in  my  possession,  evi- 
dently in  original  MS.,  exposing  tne  vices  of  the 
times,  and  especially  of  the  court  of  Charles  II. 
The  following  is  a  list  of  the  titles : — 

"  Prologue :  To  Mr.  Julian  from  the  L<i  R :  Mack 

Fleckno:  Essay  on  Satyr:  Barbara  Piramldum  SOeat, 
Miracula  Memphis :  A  Familiar  Epistle  to  Mr.  Julian, 
Secretary  to  the  Muses :  A  Letter  n-om  the  I) —  of  M — 
to  the  K — :  Ross's  Ghost :  A  Ballad,  to  the  tone  of  an 
old  man  with  a  Bed  full  of  Bones :  A  Letter  to  a  Friend, 
By  the  Lord  R. :  The  Cronide,  in  imitation  of  Mr.  Cow- 
ley :  Pindarick :  Song  upon  the  Lord  Rochester's  Death  : 
A  Ballad :  Colon :  Rochester's  Farewell :  Facit  de  vita 
agrie,  An  Allusion :  The  Looking  Glass :  The  Angler : 
upon  rix  holy  sisters  that  mett  att  a  Conventicle  to  alter 
the  Popish  word  of  Preaching :  A  Plurality  Parson  that 
had  three  Livings  and  a  wife,  &o. :  A  Ballad :  Satyr 
Semper  ego  auditur  tantum,  Ac. :  A  Duell  between  two 

Monsters  upon  my  Lady ,  with  their  chang  of 

Government  from  Monarchicall  to  Democraticall :  The 
Parting  Between  Sereno  and  Diana :  Satyr :  Satyr  un- 
muzzell'd:  Ytile  Dalce:  An  Essay  of  Scandall:  The 
Ladies  March :  Tha  Sham  Prophecy ;  A  Ballad :  Lam- 
poon :  Riddle  mee  Riddle  whars  this :  A  Pert  Imitation 

of  all  the  Flatteries  of  Fate ;  To  the  Tune  of  If  Dr.  P 

takes  exceptions :  A  Panegy  rick :  Some  Nonsence,  To  the 
tune  of  the  Maggpies :  An  Ueroick  Poem :  Sooth  Song : 
Scandall  Satyr'd :  Canto." 

The  last-named  ia  nnfininhed ;  all  are  written 
in  the  same  hand,  and  both  penmanship  and  style 
indicate  a  high  order  of  education  and  intellect 

♦  gmbncc  titin  nnwtcli.  (Inse.  in  Camp.  Ecd.  Olyat 
S.  Georgii  in  agro  Devon.) 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4«&IX.  JasK29.'n. 


Can  any  of  your  readori  fix  the  autborsliip,  or  toll  I  f"*^  applied,  reftuiid  to  enEJae  hi™.    Tin 
me  anything  about  it?     The  work  aboandi  with     '^??'Sh"??l't.''^:!!lSfer!''"f: 


.    The  workman  tt- 

B  anything  about  it?     The  work  abounda  with  I  "«?""  '""'!?rt' >"•  '"^  'f^^f^^'l  "^L**"  '^■ 
.,       1  '      >      ■!  \i.  .,1         .L  I.-       iT^  I  Allofa  laddmhe  wM«c«ll«dbythBTDieeoribBowii(T 

the  clearest  evidences  that  the  author  was  himBelf  :  „,  th.  mannfactorv.  '  Stop :  wh*t  Mrt  of  a  hat  i>  thit, 
a  ramillar  courtier — either  a  diaappointed  one^  m-  in  the  dcoo'i  aama  7 '  '  A  woodoi  bat,  lir  I '  'AiroodM 
tensely  splenetic,  or  one  whoM  otTice  constrained     hat?    Let  me  look  at  it  cloaer.    Wbtradidfonbaj-itl' 


him  to  a  dei>pcrat«  attempt  at  purification. 

Following  three  blank  pag^a  reserved  for  the 
completion  of  "  Canto,"  there  is  a  contribution 
a  different  hand,— "To  the  old  Tune,  Taking  Snuff 
b  the  mode  at  the  court."  The  titles,  I  may  aay, 
coQTey  no  adequate  notion  of  the  contents  of  the 
pieces,  the  personal  references  to  the  Court  Mem 
ing  thoroughly  exhaustive.    Uvkia  BOUk  bonis. 

Sir  John  Lchbock  ow  "Felib  Caids." — Few 
families  are  without  a  household  cat  Here  And 
there  a  thoroiigb-gointr  cat-hater  destroys  bia 
wife's  peace  by  forbidding  his  cook  to  harbour 
one  "on  any  pretext  whatever  "  ;  but  "the  ex- 
ception proves  the  rule,"  and  the  "rule"  is  that, 
whether  a  bouse  do  contain  one  family  or  seven, 
the  number  of  cats  will  follow  the  number  of 
families.  Furthermore,  three  cat-shows,  held 
within  the  lost  twelve  months  (and  numerouslr 
attended),  give  token  of  the  interest  with  which 
the  public  at  large  looks  upon  the  little  counn  of 
the  great  Felu  Leo.  Still,  whether  among  friends 
or  foes,  no  one  (so  far  as  I  am  aware)  has  yet 
come  forward  to  question  the  assertion  br  the 
learned  and  able  author  of  Pre-IIuUrnc  Timet: 
"  That  the  domestic  cat  was  not  known  in  Europe 
till  the  ninth  century."  A  man  may,  however,  tw 
both  able  and  learned,  and  yet  (now  and  then) 
mistaken;  and  I  bulievq  that  those  whose  feelings 
lead  them  to  accept  the  many  indirect  evidences 
that  the  tie  'twiit  man  and  "  pussy  cat "  is  of 
much  older  date,  will  bo  pleased  to  hear  of  a  very 
"stubborn  and  unyielding  "  witness  to  said  "pussy 
cat's"  earlier  civilisation,  in  the  shape  of  on 
ancient  baa  relief,  thua  described  by  Auguatua 
Hare  in  his  agreeable  and  useful  woni,  Walkt  n 

"Amonft  the  intereiting  liM-reliefa  in  this  room  [lb* 
'  Hall  of  liluslrious  Men '  in  tbe  moHani  of  Ihv  Cspitol] 
is  one  or  a  Komm  inlfrior,  with  a  ladv,  trying  to  indace 
her  est  to  dance  W  a  lyn."—Vol.  i.  p.  105. 

NOKLI.  RAnBCLIPFB. 

Thr  OKiaiit  0¥  THB  EcCESTBic  Method  of 
TnBSlNO.— Perhaps  the  following  newspaper  cut^ 
ting  on  the  origin  of  an  important  discovery  in 
turning  may  be  thought  worth;  of  preaervation 
in"N.  &  Q.":— 

"A  Gr-'itus.— The  SiciH  Timt$  gives  the  following 
under  the  data  of  Colmar,  May  SO.— A  man  has  lately 
died  here  worth  two  millions,  whu,  howevsr  strange  It 
may  appear  at  first  sight,  nevertheleu  owed  bis  tbrtooa 
to  his  bat.  It  happened  thus  :— About  the  rear  1816  a 
pour  ioumevmBn  turner,  of  the  asme  of  MaLilc 

footed,  and  with  a  wallet  ot 

b  which  Mood  the 


iTKlf,  sir'  'And  how  did  vou  make  ftl' 
img  lathe.'  '  But  yonr  hat  u  oval,  and  the 
things  tbat  are  mod?  on  the  turning  latbe  an  ronnd.' 
'  Yes,  tbst  ii  true,'  aruwered  the  workman, '  bat  in  soili 
of  that  I  mode  tbe  faaL  1  displaced  the  centre,  and  tW 
turned  it  ss  I  pleased.  I  bavca  long  distance  to  gOk  Bid 
T  reijuircd  a  hat  which  should  answer  the  purpoae  of  as 
nmlirella,  and  as  I  hid  no  money  to  buy  one,  I  wu 
obliged  tamikeonefbrmvaeir.'  Tbe  poor  workman  Unhls 
instinctively  disoovervd  the  eccentric  method  of  tamlaf, 
which  wu  to  prove  of  so  much  importaace  in  moden 
mechaotcs.  H.  Weil  perceived  with  the  ke«n-iightadDeH 
of  a  clever  manuhclnrer  the  immense  importaaca  of  this 
discovery.  He  retsiaed  the  mail  with  the  woodtn  bit, 
and  found  him  not  merely  a  ikilftil  workman  bntagailM 
that  only  wonted  opportanitv  and  a  small  degree  of  cnl- 
tnre  far  iti  development,  'rfae  workman  Hohi*  eoDn  ob- 
tained a  share  in  the  profits  of  the  basDeaa,  and  baeonie 
later  on,  nniier  the  name  orMonlin,  the  proprielor  of  it. 


d  acquired  tbat  large  fortBne  of  whici 


HiSTOBT  KSPBATCia  IISXLF. — 


3.  Batssb. 


"  My  friend  Will  Honeycomb  Is  one  ofthose  Mnt  of  mn 
who  are  verv  often  absent  in  oonvemtioa,  and  what  tb* 
French  calf  a  rnvw  and  a  di*lrait.  A  Hltle  tafiu*  eat 
cinb-timelast  night  we  ware  walkiiv  together  in  Stma^ 
K(  Gatdni,  where  Will  bad  picked  np  a  null  pAUi  tf 
»  oiM  d  mala  that  he  said  he  would  present  it  to  a  Mewl 
oT  his,  an  «■««(  nrtuHO.  After  we  had  walked  nma 
limsk  I  mads  a  full  stop  with  my  liKe  toward*  the  wwt. 
Hhi<4i  Willknowinglobemy  nnialuetliodorailiiijriahA 
a'dack  in  an  afternoon,  immediately  pulled  oni  hia  watdl 
sod  to/J  me  h  Aorf  i 
or  tvo  mart,  when,  to 

may  ha  vaith  i  constderaDie  way  mid  ue  tiiama,  ana 
with  grtai  ttiatrmim  in  his  looks,  ptt  tp  (ha  piMt,  be 
had  before  foand,  in  /iiifo6,"—t>piaatar.  So.  41,  Mtjfi, 
1711. 

"  The  Rev.  Georn  Barvset,  author  of  an  »<«i>ft>«(« 
treatise  on  SubterqilHKi  to  Artidttef  Failk,  and  a  TolnaN 
tk  excellent  saiman*,  was  remarkable  for  hii  abaenea  at 
mind.  A  friend  and  he,  walking  toeether  in  the  TInuJt 
OardiMt,  prevjoos  to  the  meeting  oT  the  Beef-iteak  Club 
in  Ivy  Lane,  Mr.  Hsrvect  picked  up  a  imaH  pMU  o^  od 
itraajw  a  farm,  that  ha  said  ha  would  preamt  it  to  Lord 
BDte,whowa*neKianfRW»ua.  AIW  they  had  walked 
some  time,  his  frimd  atlttd  kim  i>ha<  e'cbcjt  it  was  to 
which,  takiiig  out  hit  waltk,  Ae  amnetrtd  ditU  lAqp  Imi 
aam  minulri  good.  Accordingly,  they  t«ok  a  Iww  or  tm» 
wuirt,  when,  ta  hit  frirnift  attmMmtmt,  Mr.  HbtthS 

threw  *«  imlc* -■  -  "- ""' -*  — "' ' 

pki  tht  pebbh  i 
p.  378. 

I  remember  m  print — I  think  a  UthognpIt^bT 
Lane,  entitled  "Mathematical  Ababoctitm."  A 
aeriona-looldng  man  is  seated  between  hia  bmk- 
faat- table  and  the  fire-place,  with  hi*  eyes  diractad 


dif  net^HKi;  mDcfa  in 


applied  for  work.    uU  TaRg«i.*t«>m  \^";=n  » JJ"'^  I 
iiiihiifa»oar,andM.Wrtl,tow\i«ia^«i\    GmAdaOiAt- 


n  bis  hand.  A  ribbcn  and  seaU  hu^- 
.  nucenan  on  the  fin,  show  tlut  In 
ing  boued.  FiBSOFKOn 


i»  8.  IX.  Jdbk  29,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Gold  MmiNs  nr  Frascb.— Joaeph  Scaliger 
stotes  {SaiUsenana,  Gene»»,  1U66,  j).  227j  that 
gold  aod  silver  mioea  hod  been,  in  his  time,  dis- 
coveied  in  fiearo,  but  were  found  too  costlj  to 
work,  and  -were  therefore  abftodoned.  He  adds 
that  gold  hod  likewise  been  found  in  theOaronae, 
the  Seine,  and  the  Rhine,  eTidentiy  carried  down 
from  auriferous  drifts  in  the  mount^s ;  and  that 
Hungarjwas  known  to  abound  in  sold,  the  nTerg 
there  beina  generallj  golden -sanaed.  The  ex- 
perience of  out  Aiutraliao  miners  is  just  now 
tendbg  to  show  that  wberever  surface- depoaita  of 
gold  are  found  existing  in  alluTial  beds  or  the 
sanda  of  riveis,  there  are  certun  to  be  richly  ^old- 
bearing  quarlE-reefa  either  underlying  the  soil,  or 
close  at  uand  in  the  mountain- apurs  whence  the 
.mara  take  their  rise.  Such  reets  uau&Uy  lis 
Rt  a  considerable  depth — say  from  four  hundred 
to  a  thoosand  feet  from  the  surface.  Should  this 
supposed  connection  between  drift- gold  and 
quarlz-rock  gold  be  fully  established,  it  is  not 
impoeaible  that  both  France  and  Hungary,  aasum' 
ing  that  Scaliger  reporta  aright,  may  yet  become 
gold-producing  countries.  U.  BuiB. 

Melboom. 

CKimiJiiEiAiTraK.  —  I  extract  the  following 
from  The  Lancet  of  March  SO,  1872,  p.  425 :  — 

"Abthrdpolooical  Inbtitdt«.  —  At  the  ordinary 
meating  held  on  Iho  tSth  icit.,  Sir  Duduo  Gibb,  Bart., 
H.D.nid  a  paper  'On  tfae  Phyiiol  Conililion  ofCeataita- 
riaoa.'  Hia  nmarka  ware  fonnded  npon  an  aiaminalJOD  of 
aiz  gaQnina  examplaa,  in  wbum  bs  fonnd  tbe  organs  of  di 


oohrtioB  and  mpirai 
to  the  prime  of  lift  t 
of  aU  thoae  lAaDgea  tuuallf 


!  ipproachiDg 


aeventy  years;  and  in  searly  all  tbe  apecisl  mdsm  irar* 
nnlmpiirgd,  tbe  intelligence  ^fecE— tboa  showing,  at 
any  rsta,  tbe  eomplete  iiitegnty  of  the  nerrous  system. 
Tbe  author's  views  irere  opposed  to  those  held  regarding 
the  extreme  loDgevitr  of  cenlenariaoi.  In  the  discna- 
aion  which  fuUowed, 'Hr.  E.  Walford  pointed  oat  that 
the  statistics  of  toDtine  associalioDS  placed  the  Act  of 
eantensTianisin,  which  the  late  Sir  G.  C.  Lawu  bad  dia- 
puled,  beyond  the  posubility  of  doubt." 

WlLLIAK  BaIBB. 
[We  shanld  like  to  know  the  oamea  of  tbass  "six 
genuine  canlenerius,"  end  to  what  slatiitka  Mr.  Wai- 
^rd  referred.— Ed.  •■  N,  4  Q."] 

Blastiiis  Roces  fikbt  ihthodtickd. — In  read- 
ing a  work  of  some  authority  on  mining',  it  wai 
stated  that  tbe  date  of  the  introduction  of  blasting 
rocks  was  not  known.  I  think  the  following  entry 
in  the  register  of  the  pariah  of  Breage,  near  Hel- 
■ton,  gives  that  information  as  to  Cornwall: — 

"Thomas  Epaley,  Senior,  of  Chilchimpton,  p'ish  of 
Bath  A  Wells,  in  SomeraeUbire,  he  was  the  man  that 
broDght  that  rara  hiTenlloD  of  shooting  the  rocka,  which 
came  here  iu  Jtma  1089;  and  he  died  at  the  baU,  and 
waa  buried  at  breag  tha  16  day  of  Dacemba,  in  the 
years  of  our  Lord  Cl^t  1669." 

Geo.  Uxkxkll. 

Alrertoa, 


»  at  St.  Paul's, 


A    PARlIT.gr, 

"  On  Enter  Dey,  after  solemn  i 

1  dined  with  him.     Mr.  Allen,  the  ,  ,  

^est.  He  was  uncommoQly  silent ;  and  I  have  not 
niritten  down  anything  except  a  ainRle  carious  fket, 
\rhich,  having  the  sanction  of  bis  inflexible  veracity,  ma;- 
lie  received  as  a  striking  instance  of  bamsn  insensibility 
.ind  inccnaideratioa.  Aa  he  was  psssiog  by  a  fishmonger, 

because  it  would  not  lie  ttiHr—BciadCi  Johntm.  Cro- 
ker's  edition,  vii  254. 

"  Cry  to  it,  nund^  aa  the  eockoay  did  to  tha  mIs 
when  she  put  'em  1'  the  pasta  alive :  she  kuappad  'am 
o'  the  coxcombs  with  a  stick,  and  cried  '  Down,  wantons 
down  ! '  "—Eitig  Ltar,  Act  II.  8c  4, 

AXFRBS  AuroBB. 

FoKT  AT  Catterics  Chubch. — During  a  recent 
viait  to  Gatterick,  co.  York,  my  autitjuarian  feel- 
ings were  considerably  shocked  at  seeing  the  coats 
of  arms  of  various  lamiliea,  which  were  cut  in 
Htone  upoD  the  font  of  this  church,  painUd  m 
colourt  Dy  some  heraldic  dauber ;  fao,  in  hia 
ignorance,  has  emblazoned  the  coat  of  Clebome 
(a  family  who  held  the  adjacent  manor  of  Kil- 
ierby  until  the  close  of  tbe  seventeenth  century) 
or  and  azure,  instead  of  argent  and  sable :  tlios 
making  the  charges  (which  are  the  same  in  both 
shields)  those  of  Fitzhugh.  Such  an  egregious 
arror,  and  the  loas  or  deatruction  of  tablets  in  this 
church,  ou^ht  to  awaken  the  interwt  of  York 
antiquaries  m  this  matter. 

Madeira.  May  2a,  1873. 


H.M.O. 


(Etutttrt. 


DR.  DEE'3  MATHEMATICAL  PREFACE. 
In  thia  mathematical  preface,  first  written  for 
Billingsley's  Euclid,  and  afterwards  prefixed  to 
the  EiemenU  of  Oeometry  by  Captain  Thomaa 
Rudd  (London,  1661),  there  are  several  marginal 
notes  by  the  author,  vrhich  require  some  elndd*- 
tioD,  When  treating  of  the  "  graduation  of  com- 
pound mixtures,"  he  refers  to  a  method  fnvented 
''  by  a  countryman  of  ours  above  two  hundred 

?iar»  ago,"  and  "  R.  B.''  are'  noted  in  the  margin, 
he  same  person  ia  noted  as  having  written  on 
"  experiments  statical "  at  the  request  of  Pope 
Clement.  I  think  "  R.  B."  may,  therefore,  be 
put  down  as  Roger  Bacon,  now  well  known  as  one 
of  the  greateet  philoaojihers  of  his  time.  Agaiii, 
when  Dr.  Dee  is  speaking  of  the  propertiea  of  his 
"  marvelious  glssse,"  he  refers  to  "  a  gentleman 
which,  for  his  good  service  done  to  his  country,  ia 
hmoua  and  honouraUe :  and  for  skiU  in  the  ma- 
thematioal  sdencea  and  languages  ia  the  OtUt 
Afoi  of  this  land,"  &c.  In  the  margin  "S.  W.  P." 
are  given  as  his  initials  and  for  identification. 
Some  "^d  discourses  on  gunning"  are  referred 
to  ««  written  by  "  N,  T, ,"  and  a  "  wnwwE-iiM*  i»i^ 
tun,"  &  a«,'vtKB.\M,  \»  mjuA.  **  '■''  %-"?i.'^.V  '^™ 


Vv.     ''. 

.11"'  •■        .1  .,■.»•*.  (*  ■..■■  •■ 

iiiirl\  }•         ;•     -.  '■'  '.  ■^■•  ■■  ■  ■.  t:  ■    .:■■•.■  "  i'     ^ 
III   1».-'-.'    .         i  •  •:"-  ;•!  ■      ;    ^"^  ■:      '■  ••'  ■   •■ 
kiiivi'--   .".     .'p-    r:  i^.'N  li  il:.i-  V.  :.i.i:    i.  •  ;.. 
baiili-i  "f  i:i-'  Ni:ii,  ami  ii''\..-.iri._-  '-v!;..  >■  ■:.-  • 
Jililo  L'u- :    .  rt  i!;.iji  .•iii:,.'I   ii.it-  (  !'•  ■  iv  ii  ■  ■;:iM 
(!lifsii;iH  -  i:i  «-i/-'  :ii.>l  ;«]•',. t-ar.ir.. -i-,  ii  v,:.;.!-  ;. 
wiTi'  ;."ii-''-..l  h\  til'"  ■•:!!. ill  wliit'-  ll  ».V'  r-^  l-  v:\-' 
tl]»'  >l>:\-  -ji;'inu'iiiir    iVi'iii   :!.■■    i.u;  ■   in    jii-.-:! 
They  .11- ■  calltl  oruuf^  in  thi*  lii-trift.      Wlia 
their  ]>r  ■    r  lj>il  iiical  iiuiin'.  .-im.I   :i"«-  ili- ;»  T- 
in  any  «>;!.-r  jwirt^  <il"(Iiv.il  lJni.:i:i':        V.  M.  ." 

f"Ar;:ij'.  I.'iu>y  Anmt,  s.   MaiLii-r:ii!  (  v.  i..ii. .- 1-  rr.  i 
}»ii;-nii(  :   i'r.Mi-.iiii   liiill»i>'";i't.-m:i:ii.  <•/•  ii- xvj'-M'I.   Mi 
Set'  J;ui.i  •  -mi's   l\tiiiiu'!nqit'nl  JUi  f-'t  ir-/  <  ft'"    >/■■•'.' 
Ijan(fiiii-., .     Ill  tin-  Siij'|ilcm<  lit  t"  l!ii-  w.  ii.,  ai   1  l-y  l 
same  aut!.-  •:,  it  sn -,  *'  Anmt.  >.  r,.»nI.:Ki;  ,  ./•;«/;  "  i' 
^uit-Kr.i-^-:,  A::^li-.  Swinrs  .t/nnt'^  or   1  .irtli-ii.it  ■.  S  I'li 
I.ij,'htrii«il.  ;■.  1"."».  *' lla-l  this  hu-f»ani!rv  Imii  ...inr.il 
tho  <l»'ar  yrjis   tlw*  |Hmr  liail  iml   l"'n   riiiui'i'l   tn   t 
mHM'.vitv  «f  li  villi;  «»n  ^-Irunts.  Mylr^,  iir  th'.'  liu<'."    M.i 
well's  SI.  Tr.itH.,   p.  l'i'»i".      Jur.iu'.   i-l.  A.   llor.  lia 
**  Harrnut^    tartiitmt";  Thori'.Nliy.   Ji-iu's    I. 'ft.,    p.  :!J 
Teut.  oirdifuit.  id."] 

Admitml  IUjoh. — I  wish  to  asci-rljiin  all  ]>rn 
ticulai'fl  po.-Ml»l<*  resiwctinLT  a  cnhiurnl  print  in  m 
possession  t»f  tlio  ftonndiinmint  of  UliL'-h  aiul  h. 
companionj^  by  thu  inntin«»ors  of  th»'  iJnuiiiy,  i 
the  Innnch  of  that  vossel.  TIi«»  ]>rint  aL:T<'«.-<  I'l"-*-! 
with  Blijrh's  narrative,  anil  Sf^Miis  to  b«'  (>(  micIi 
character  as  to  indicate  that  the  nrti.st  ha'l  .-»<  • 
cially  aiitlientic  .sonrce<  of  inforniati.»n. 

I  posse.^a  also  a  small  volunio  fnlilliMl  — 

"Letters  from  Mr.   Klotolior  Christian,   «'nii!:u.:iir.: 
Narrative  «»f  tlu»  'rrftUHnfti«)ns  on  hi.ianl    lli.i   Majr-tN' 


4t«'  S.  IX.  JU2CK  29,  72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


535 


to  Win  Ilcr,  a  comedy  (1814).  The  last-named 
piece  was  performed  successfully  at  one  of  the 
London  theatres.  Miss  Mary  Holford,  afterwards 
Mrs.  Hodgson,  was  author  of  Wallace,  or  the  Fight 
of  Falkirk,  a  metrical  romance,  4to,  1809,  second 
edition,  1810;  and  Margaret  of  Anjou,  a  poem, 
4to,  1810.  Was  Mrs.  Ilodgson  a  daughter  of 
Mrs.  M.  Holford,  and  is  she  still  living?  Is 
Mrs.  Holford  author  of  any  other  dramatic  works 
besides  the  two  comedies  named  above  ? 

K.  Inolis. 

Iceland.  —  Can  anyone  inform  me  if  "  the 
Vatna*'  in  Iceland,  for  the  exploration  of  which 
it  is  said  Captain  Burton  has  started,  or  is  about 
to  start,  has  not  already  been  ascended  by  some 
countrymen  of  ours  a  few  years  ago ;  and  ii  this  is 
so,  can  they  also  tell  me  if  the  persons  who  as- 
cended the  Vatna  have  written  any  and  what  ac- 
count of  their  ascent,  and  where  the  account  is  to 
be  obtained  ?  R.  P. 

[The  foUowint;  works  may  be  consulted:  Henderson, 
Journal  of  a  Jiesidenee  in  letland ;  Sir  G.  Mackenzie, 
TraceU;  llooker,  Jonmal  of  a  Tour  in  Iceland;  Dillon, 
Winter  in  Iceland ;  Barrow,  Visit  to  Iceland,  and  Lord 
Dofferin,  letters  from  High  Latitudes,  Oar  correspondent 
Meems  to  be  under  a  miMpprefaension  of  the  meaning  of 
the  Icelandic  word  vatnigcn,  plural  vatnd)  which  de- 
notes water,  or  a  lake.  Hence  Fiske-Vatn,  Tbingvalla- 
Varn,  &c^  in 'names  of  lakes  on  the  map  of  Iceland.  A 
mountain  is  called  JoAk//,  which  properly  signifies  a  sum- 
mit covered  with  ice  and  snow.] 

IiTKTO  Jones  and  the  Eakl  of  Pesibroke. — 
In  ins  Anecdotes  of  Painting  (ed.  1840,  ii.  411), 
Lord  Orford  mentions  that  he  had  seen  in  the 
Harleian  Library  a  copy  of  Stonehenge  by  Inigo 
Jones,  which  had  formerly  been  in  possession  of 
the  l^rl  of  Pembroke  and  Montgomery,  at  one 
time  the  minion  of  James  I.,  and  at  another  the 
opponent  of  his  son.  In  this  yolume  his  lordship 
had  amused  himself  with  writing  notes  of  a  rather 
defamatory  nature,  libelling  his  friends  and  his 
enemies.  Cromwell  and  his  daughters  were 
amongst  others ;  but  the  person  most  offensiye  to 
the  writer  was  Inigo  Jones,  whom  he  is  pleased 
to  call  "  Iniquity  Jones,"  and  whom  he  maligns 
in  no  measured  language. 

Lad^  Northington,  who  had  occasion,  from  |he 
earFs  mdisposition,  to  wait  upon  George  IL,  in 
the  course  of  conyersation,  took  occasion,  in 
answer  to  a  question  from  the  monarch  as  to  the 
county  residence  of  the  chancellor,  her  husband, 
to  inform  the  king  that  it  was  built  by  Indigo 
Jones,  and  his  majesbr  obeerred  that  he  l>elieyed 
this  was  the  case,  adding  that  he  had  heard  of 
Inditro,  and  belieyed  he  had  made  a  fortune  in 
the  Lidiee.  Upon  informing  her  husband  on  her 
return  of  what  had  passed,  the  earl  with  an  oath 
declared  both  his  wife  and  his  monarch  to  be  great 
fools,  but  which  was  the  greatest  he  could  not  say. 

Lord  Pembroke  was  more  of  a  knaye  than  a 
fool,  and  it  wotild  be  enriona  to  learn  what  lua 


reasons  were  for  despoiling,  like  the  king  and  the 
countess,  Jones  of  his  Christian  name.  Is  it 
known  what  has  become  of  the  yolume  which 
Walpole  says  he  saw  P  Haye  any  of  the  MS.  notes 
been  printed  ?  How  delightful  a  sketch  of  the 
Protector  and  his  daughters  would  be  drawn  by 
their  friend,  the  nephew  of  Sir  Philif>  Sidney — 
for  such  this  renegade  nobleman  indubitably  was. 

J.M. 

Anciekt  Mabbiage  Law. — ^Whero  shall  I  find 
the  most  trustworthy  information  as  to  what  waa 
the  marriage  law  of  Europe  before  the  Council  of 
Trent?  I  apprehend  that  there  is  no  doubt  that 
a  declaration  of  marriage  before  witnesses,  fol- 
lowed by  the  parties  liying  together,  was  up  to  that 
time  a  yalid  marriage  oyer  the  whole  of  western 
Eiirope,  as  it  is  to  this  day  in  Scotland. 

COBVUB. 

Match  Tax  BiLL.~Taking  up  a  box  of  Bryant 
&  May's  lucifer  matches,  I  felt  greatly  amus^  in 
noticing  the  design  adopted  as  a  '^  trade  mark." 
This  is  apparently  a  fac-simile  representation  of 
the  goyemment  stamp  executed  for  the  Chan- 
cellor of  the  Exchequer,  and  intended  to  be  af- 
fixed to  matches  sold  subsequently  to  the  passing 
of  his  famous  Match-Tax  BilL  The  design  con- 
sists of  a  flambeau  placed  within  an  oyal  garter, 
whidi  is  inscribed  with  the  words  ex  luce  lucelhtm. 
Within  a  compartment  at  the  top  of  the  label  ia 
the  word  "  half,"  and  in  another  at  the  bottom 
the  word  "  penny."  The  colour  of  the  stamp  is 
green.  The  narrow  edge  of  the  box  is  inscrioed 
"  Match  Tax  Bill,  introduced  20*  April,  1871. 
Withdrawn  26«»»  April,  1871.  Entered  at  Sta** 
Hall.**  The  matches  are  named  on  the  box 
'^  Chancellor  matches."  Can  any  one  inform  me 
if  this  be  really  a  fac-almila  representation  of  the 
design  furnished  to  H.M.  Ooyemment  ?  If  it  ia 
it  seems  to  amount  almost  to  a  kind  of  practieal 
joke.  With  whom  did  the  motto  ex  huse  liie^Bmm 
originate?  Hardly,  I  think,  with  the  preaent 
Chancellor  of  the  ISxehequer.  Bilbo. 

John  MoBBiaoN,  A.B.C.D.,  is  author  of  EUa, 
a  drama,  date  about  1834.  Can  you  giye  me  any 
information  regarding  this  dramatist  ?  Was  ha  a 
member  of  Trinity  College,  Dublin  ? 

R.  INGLI9. 

^*  Oelanbo  Fttbioso."— I  want  to  ascertain  the 
place  of  publication  and  rarity  of  an  edition  of 
Ariosto  not  mentioned  in  the  works  I  haye  access 
to.  It  is  a  quarto,  paginated  consecntiyely  on 
the  alternate  pages  up  to  238,  printed  in  double 
columns,  with  small  yery  rude  woodcuts  at  the 
commencement  of  each  canto.  A  large  woodcut 
of  a  city,  Roma,  and  a  camp  fills  almost  half  the 
first  page.  The  title  is  short,  of  eight  diminishimq^ 
lines  oyer  a  tolerably  ^g<»A'^^^^'Ji»x.^'^^'''as^^ 


JWi,««/.i..t-!J,«lit.l«CO.] 

Tnr-:  Pari.iameht  Oak.— 

"  KiUaril  I.  hi?lil  a  gieU  council  under  llie  ahnde  of  ar 
immpDsc  oak,  the  vrell-guan]«l  trunk  of  vrlikh  is  yel 
•tanding.  at  the  comei  of  Ctipston  Park,  on  the  siii«  n 
tbt  itiiA  b«tween  Minificld  inil  EditinsIoKe.  and  i: 
fUDOUB  tbroagb  all  the  countrj-aide  as  ^  Parliameiit  Qak^ 
""  ■  .    .  -    ■■     -^  ■     • ---  ■"..-         onaequKiton 

nnting  Id  ths 

boat,  of  >  nvolt  of  the  nawlj  connuered  Welsh,  uai nit 
whom  ha  immedlatelr  procwdad.— Spencer  T.  Hill't 
RrttUr't  Offtrvni,  p.  75. 


oath  it!  TJdM 
bumw  beld  a  biw  bat  euoast  cooanltitloD,  Id  oodm- 
qneoM  of  iatalUgaaoe  lu*lnc  been  brooKbt  to  the  rayal 
pHtr  (whllit  huDting  In  ClipMone  Park)  of  >  second 
nrolt  cf  the  Wabta.  Thii  took  pUee  In  121S,  and  the 
flitt  naolt  iraa,  aeeordfiig  to  Rapln,  the  execution  of 
tmnty-cicht  Wdah  hoataga  then  confluad  in  Notting- 
ham CuUe."— Junii  CuUt'i  Ktnf  (o  Shimood  fbruf, 

la  uj  nliuee  whatever  to  be  placed  in  ttadi- 
ttau  ot  putieDlBr  beei  being  conaacted  with  earl j 
UitariBal  «T«Dt>F  Xm.j  not  the  conjecture  of 
aoBM  imaginatiTe  mind  nave  paned  into  a  belief, 
bam  ftatod  to  and  bj  another  as  a  fact,  and  at 
Ingth  hare  beeom«  current  in  the  neighboui- 
koodaa  aoertain^F  Can  an^  tree  boaat  an  tm- 
bmkeB  chain  of  reliable  testimony  connecting  it 
irith  the  event  &om  which  it  derives  ita  celebn^P 
Fkaitcib  J.  LKiooiuir,  M.A. 
QroxuioRfl  WAMxiik— ' 

ntTavniXw  r^Aarni  rvrah^'arai  * 

MAKBOCHXI& 


4*  S.  IX.  Jun«  29,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


537 


Latham's  recent  edition  of  Johmou'i  DicHomiiy,  tike  is 
said  to  come  from  the  German  dachs,  a  badger,  under  the 
idea  apparently  of  its  being  a  dog  employed  in  the  hunt- 
ing of  badgers.  Bat  this  etymology  seems  scarcely  war- 
rantable, and  the  derivation  is  more  correctly  stated  in 
the  original  edition  of  Johnson,  where  the  **  Runick " 
tijk  is  assigned.  In  Scotland,  and  also  as  we  understand 
in  the  North  of  England,  the  word  is  in  common  use  to 
denote  a  dog,  or  rather  a  snarling,  ill-tempered  dog,  and 
hence  by  metonymy  it  is  frequently  transferred  to  a 
surly,  ill-tempered  person.  The  fact  of  its  being  used  in 
Scotland  and  the  north  of  England,  where  the  Danish 
element  enters  so  largely  into  Uie  population,  and  also 
that,  so  far  as  we  are  aware,  the  term  does  not  appear  in 
Anglo-ii^xon  or  any  of  the  Teutonic  tongues,  seems 
strong  corroborative  proof  of  its  having  its  origin  in  the 
Scandinavian  branch  of  the  Gothic  family  of  languages. 
The  word  is  used  both  by  Shakeopeare  and  Ben  Jonson, 
and  occurs  in  an  expression  cited  by  Sir  Walter  Scott  in 
conjunction  with  talbot,  another  old  name  for  a  hound, 
**  A  talbot  strong,  a  sturdy  tyke." 


"MAN  PROPOSETH,  GOD  DISPOSETa" 
(4»»»  S.  ix.  423.) 

Any  notes  of  Hebmentrvse  are,  I  am  sure, 
always  perused  with  pleasure  by  the  readers  of 
"  N.  &  Q./'  and  the  tracing  of  the  scintillations 
of  genius  is,  if  we  may  judge  by  the  numerous 
papers  on  proverbs,  a  work  in  which  many  of 
your  correspondents  take  an  interest.  The  ]^ro- 
yerb  which  she  has  brought  before  us  at  this  time 
is  of  yery  old  date,  being  found  in  yarious  forms 
in  the  Iliad  of  Homer;  among  other  passages  I 
may  quote  the  following  (xviL  515) :  — 

^w  yiip  Kol  iy<&'  rh  94  KtP  Ait  uttyra  |Af  A^trci. 

I  shall  throw  the  javelin,  but  its  destination  is  in  the 
hands  of  the  Almighty. 

From  that  early  period  the  thoughtful  among 
mankind  have  always  felt  that  they  were  under 
the  control  of  a  higher  Power,  who  ruled  the 
affairs  of  this  life  at  his  will.    Pindar  (born  B.c. 
522,  died  b.c.  442)  says  (Ofyn^.  xiiL  149),  yery 
beautifully,  and  in  a  submissiye  tone : — 
i^w  8'  IXvoftoi  fUp  *  fp  6cf  7c  fikw 
r4\os, 
I  now  hope,  but  the  event  is  with  God  alone. 

But  it  is  not  only  poets  who  acknowledge  such 
dependence,  but  nroee  writers  are  equally  willing 
to  exclaim  with  dt  James  (iy.  15) — **  For  that  ye 
ought  to  say,  If  the  Lord  will,  we  shall  live  and 
do  this  or  that."  How  powerfully  does  Demo- 
sthenes (b.  B.C.  382,  d.  322)  express  the  idea  in  the 
following  passage  of  his  celebrated  speech  (De 
Corond,  2(W) :  — 

h  fj^w  7&P  Ijp  Mfmp  Ayaddr  Ijfryor,  Arcwi  w^wptutratf 

Whatever  was  the  duty  of  brave  men,  they  wer«  all 
itadv  to  perform,  but  the  fovereign  Lord  of  th«  luivtiie 
decided  the  fate  of  each. 


Let  us  turn  to  Roman  writers,  and  we  find  one 
of  their  earliest  dramatic  authors,  Plautus  (b.  about 
B.C.  254,  d.  184),  express  himself  thus,  which 
looks  much  as  if  it  were  a  translation  of  the  pas- 
sage quoted  above  from  Pindar  {Bacchid.  1, 2, 36) : 

'*  Sperat  quidem  animus ;  quo  eveniat  diis  in  manu  est," 

and  the  last  subject  of  Rome  who  composed  a 

Srofane  history  in  the  Latin  language,  Ammianus 
[arcellinus  {Hist,  xxy.  3),  who  flourished  from 
about  A.D.  350  to  a.I).  390,  says,  though  with  noi 
much  elegance :  — 

•  ^  Tametsi  prosperitas  simul  utilitasque  consultoruni 
non  ubique  concordent,quoniam  captorum  eventus  supers 
sibi  vindicant  potestates." 

Yet  the  success  of  plans,  and  the  advantage  to  be  de- 
rived from  them,  do  not  at  all  times  agree,  since  the  Goda 
claim  to  themselves  the  right  to  decide  as  to  the  final  re- 
sult. 

The  idea  is  of  common  occurrence  in  writers  of 
later  times.  F^nelon,  the  preceptor  of  Louis  XV.^ 
in  his  sermon  on  the  Epipnany^  nreached  in  1685, 
uses  what  was  possibly  proverbial  in  France,  when 
he  exclaims :  — 

"Dieu  ne  donne  auz  passions  humaines,  lors  mdme 
qu*elles  sem blent  decider  de  tout,  que  ce  qu*il  leur  faut 
pour  6tre  les  instruments  de  ses  desseins ;  ainsi  Vkomme 
M'agiUf  mais  Dieu  le  mene  :  *' 


and  Montaigne  (h.  A.D.  1533,  d.  a.d.  1589),  in  hia 

liv.  II.  en.        '    "    " 
said:  — 


JEssais  (li 


37)  had,  long  before  F^elon, 


\ 


*'  Suyvons  de  par  Dieu !  suyvons :  11  meine  ceulx  qui 
suyvent ;  ceulx  qui  ne  suyvent  pas,  il  les  entraisnc." 

This  is  iy)thing  else  than  a  translation  of  the  idea 
found  in  Seneca  {Ep.  107) :  — 

**  Ducunt  volentem  fata,  nolentem  trahunt." 

And  this  agiun  is  but  an  appropriation  of  the  idea 
of  the  Stoic  Cleanthes,  born  about  B.C.  300,  in  tho 
following  beautiful  fragment :  — 

iyov  8i  /A*  i  Zf G  ical  vi  7*  4  UfwpPtfA^imi, 
iwoi  vod*  ^/Aii'  §1/aI  itarrrayfUpoSt 
its  t^fuu  y'  ioKifos  *  V  '^  M*)  ^^^ 
Koiths  ytrdfAtPOSf  o(fih»  9rrrop  ^ftoi. 

Lead  me,  O  Jupiter,  both  thou  and  Fate;  whereso- 
ever I  am  directed  by  yon,  I  shall  follow  without  hesita- 
tion. Even  if  I  be  unwilling,  being  recalcitrant,  naver- 
theless  1  shall  be  obliged  to  follow. 

I  belieye  that  the  proverb,  such  as  Hsrmsn- 
TBVDB  gives  it,  is  founa  in  all  European  languages. 
The  Spaniards  say,  as  we  see  in  Don  Quixote 
(122):  — 

**  Ya  el  hombre  oomo  Dios  m  servido." 
Man  goes  as  God  is  pleased. 

and  in  Dante  (Farad,  yiiL  1. 134)  the  idea  appears 
in  this  form :  — 

**  Natura  generata  il  sac  eammino 
Simil  fiarehb%  «ttCk^<t^  ^  ^sostirvGfidt^ 


5;i.s 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


Li'^S.  IX.  Jlxe29,  72. 


*•  Wrm  it  11*  it 
1'    i  I'rDvidi'ncc  Cf'i<-ti.il  iivorrnli-l. 
N.tiT.-.',  in  !'on<  r.iti'M,  imi«-t  tin-  j-ii'i 
'I'l.t.-v.!  liv  tlii^  ^'I'li'  y:it<">i'    till  J•■.;l^■.ui 
l.'i:-\v«'rviiii:ly." — Ci:  j. 

AniHn:a"l:i;r:ii-li  still  iiiJie  (.'lo-uly  cxpivipcs  the 
pr')v».';i; ;  — 

*•  1/  u<'!n->  ill  t'-rra  a  vuu'lii  "'sa  ]»r<>p'in'', 
Iiiintn-  iliver<amfMit<"  il  r-iol  di.-ipuiH'."' 

Man   Iwrr'   l.iloiv   pr.»pf»-i's    wliat    lu'   wislie-,   wl:ii«i 
Heaven  aliovi-  <li«j)fi-i>'s  in  a  far  ilirtVri'nt  wav. 

And  t'»  ci(riclii;I''  wo  liav»?  i;  piiliilv  oxprcsseJ  in 
Schillor*8  IViiUuishin.^  Doith,  (i.  7,  \\1):  — 

"  Donn  :iili.'r  Aus^.hil;  ist  i-in  (fOttit.Mirtlif.'i!." 
I'Vr  i'vrry  event  i:*  (ioi'i  arliitrenu*nt. 

C.  T.  liAM\«JK. 


NAl'nLKON  AT  WATKKLO'J. 

(■l'»'  S.  ix.  H':'.).) 

I  nlsn  ^i^i:.•(l  \\\i\  Jiold  (if  W  at«.'rlo.\  ami  my 
vi.-^it  occuiTi-1  in  th^  war  follnwintr  tho  battk*. 
The  **  ni'ivabl*'  srallMd"  was  elill  .standinjr,  and 


AVhen  1  was  about  five  yeora  old,  just  after  the 
battle  of  Waterloo,  I  received  a  present   of  a 
**  \Vattrl'.*o   handkcrchii'f/'   with    which    I    WM 
hl;rhly  delighted,  and  whicli  I  studii*d  wilh  great 
oarnestnoits.    I  have  a  vivid  recollection  of  it  after 
more  than  tlfty  years.     I  enclose  a  draft  of  it.     The 
I  upper  compartment  represented  the  attack  on  the 
'  French  Imperial  Guani,  also  the  CuirassierSy  with 
Mont  ist  Jean  in  the  background :  the  lower  por- 
:  tion  pivo  the  church  and  villa|;e  of  Waterloo,  and 
the  takini^  of  I)onaparte*B  carriage — a  postillion 
(just  «hot)  is  falling  off  his  horse.     The  middle 
;  gives  a  map  of  the  ground,  with  Mont  St.  Jean, 
!  ilouguomont,  La  Belle  Alliance,  &c.  On  the  middle 
'  right  divinion  there  was  a  scaiibM :  four  perpen- 
dicular polos  roughly  held  together  by  horizontal 
'  polesi,  with  ladders  reaching  to  two  or  (hree  atagtsa. 
I  On  the  upper  stage  was  Napoleon  with  his  telfr- 
sciipe,  and  one  or  two  of  his  statl  behind  him 
wailing  for  orders.     On  the  opposite  c<)mpartment 
was   the  Observatory  of  the  Priuro   of  Orange. 
higher  and  more  rough.     The  handkerchief  was 
stamped  calico,  and  I  do  not  think  the  colours 
(shades  of  brown)  would  bear  wa^hi^g.     Some  of 


wjis  aiwavci  calh'd  the  "Observatory."  It  had  \  your  correnpondents  may  have  a  c(>py,  and  it  cer- 
bi'on  constructed  Hixwofjks  provioaslvl)y  engineers  i  tainly  asserts  the  fact  that  Bonaparte  and  the 
from  Ht»llan.l.  Krrmi  the  autlienticated  narrative  I  IVmce  of  Orange  had  scaffolds  erected  on  the  field 
I'f  J.    Ji.   d«*   Coster,   the   w.-il-known  guide   of  j  in  order  to  take  observations.  H. 

Buonaparte  on  the   day   of  Waterloo,   givon   in;      1  >ublm  Library. 
.lon^'s's  li'afrrhoj  wo  learn  his  various  positions  ! 


during  the  day.     Do  Costi-r  was  enjraged  bv  the 
enipj«ror  at  six  in  the  morning.     Troni  eiglit  to 
one  Buonaparte  was  fonninir  his  trof^ns;  from  one 
to  four  he  was  dismounted,  and  nMiiainoJ.  aecuro 
from  dan^rtT  in  a  ravine :  from  four  to  seven  ho 
was  on  the  roof  of  l)e  Cost4.*r*H  house;   and  at 
seven  in  the  high  ruad,  tliree  quarters  of  a  mile 
distant,   between    Lu    Belle   AUianoe   and  ^lont 
St.  Jean,  wliere  he  remained  between  two  high 
sand  banks  till  half-pnst  eight.     Then  finding  that 
the  Prus>ians  were  advancing  upon  his  flank,  and 
that  the  J'^uirlish  had  thrown  his  tro<")p8  into  utter 
confusion,  he   caught  hold  of  the  bridle  of  De 
Coster's  Iiorse.  turned  the  animal's  head  round, 
and  exclaimt?d,  "  A  present  c'est  tout  fini :  sauvous- 
nous  I  *'    This  l)e  Coster  liiniself  told  me,  standing 
<m  the  spot  itself  where  it  occurred.     Napoleon 
then  galloped  oil*  after  his  guide,  and  never  spoke 
a  word  for  four  hours.     It  will  be  seen  from  the 
above  that  he  could  never  have  stood  on   that 
scaffold  .surveying  the  battle,  and  still  less  viewing 
the  wreck  of  his  fortunes,  since  tlie  victory  was 
not   decidc<l   till   nightfall;  and  even  so  late  as 
seven  o'clock  he  considered  victory  on  his  own  side 
as  certain.     Iiut  the  truth  was,  us  we  h^arn  from 
De  CostiT's  "  Narrative*'  (p.  1 10  in  Jones's  Wattr- 
loo)f  that  lie  made  no   uso   of  i\v*  Observatory, 
except  til  at  he  mounted  it  before  De  Coster  came 
to  him  at  six  o'chwk  in  the  morning,  Imt  never 
after.  F.  C.  IL 


In  the  J)t\'icn))tioH  of  the  Fit  Id  of  liatUtf  pub- 
lished iJr'lT,  p.  8,  is  this  note: — 

**  Thio  <(Mtrnl<i  ur  platfurrn,  about  sixty  fty't  hif^h,  wan 
on-otcd  hy  onlur  of  the  King  of  the  NHthcrlandi  as  a 
signal  station  to  Announce  the  approach  of  the  enemy ;  bat 
the  French  arrived  before  it  couM  be  completed.  It  is 
ni)t  true  that  lk>naparte  oscendetl  the  platform,  there 
being  no  ladders  or  other  means  left  to  gi't  up.*' 

Tll£  KXIGIIT  OF  MOBAB. 


DOGS  BURIED  AT  THE  l-EET  01'  DISnOPS. 
(4*^  S.  viii.  ptugim  ;  ix.  18.) 

As  the  elucidation  of  this  subject  is  of  some 
interest,  the  following  remarks  are  worthy  of  pre- 
servation in  your  pages,  as  they  have  onlj  ap- 
peared in  one  of  our  insular  papers,  and  may  not 
nave  met  the  eye  of  many  conversant  with  the 
custom: — 

**  There  have  appeared  in  England  at  internals  servfal 
papers  reganling  the  bariul  of  doop*  with  human  reiii«[B% 
trusting  the  subject  very  generoJlv;  but  with  the  ez* 
ception  of  a  very  good  article  in  'f^e  AHtiquary  for  De> 
c(;nilK>r  HO,  1871,  and  even  in  this,  tlicre  in  not  one  woid 
calculaU'd  to  meet  the  question  of  mich  having  beoB 
interred  in  the  grave  with  a  ChriUian  bhhop. 

**  The  writer  of  the  following  remarks  having  felt  mnch 
interest  in  those  investigations,  and,  it  must  be  said,  pre- 
portionablc  disappointment  that  nothing  approadiiiig  a 
M>lution  of  the  difBealty  had  been  elicited,  ventima  to 
oiler  the  following  ftw  notes  that  have  been  thmra  1^ 
gether,  pending  any  better  accoont  by  an  abler  hand  Una 


4«|>S.  1X.Jise29,'72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


539 


may  lior  .'after  appear.  These  seem  to  carry  conviction 
with  tlum,  and  are  therefore  offered  as  an  approach  to  a 
solution  of  this  as  yet,  apparently  mysterious  subject 

••  Domini  Canes. — The  order  of  Dominicans,  or  Black 
Friars,  was  founded  by  a  Spanish  noble,  Dominic  Guzman, 
Canon  of  Osiiia  in  a.d.  1205,  who  being  smitten  with  an 
anxious  desire  to  convert  the  Albigenses,  organised  a 
crusade  against  them.  Pope  Honorius.III.  accepted  his 
services  and  condrmed  the  newly  established  order  in 
1216.  The  almost  unheard-of  cruelties  practised  in  the 
quest  for  and  destruction  of  those  most  unfortunate  people 
we  will  not  ■'■top  to  discuss,  but  pass  on  to  the  more  im- 
mediate subject  of  our  inquiry.  The  Dominicans  became 
from  that  period  the  main  pillar  of  the  Popedom,  so  that 
this  order  soon  won  so  much  preference  from  his  Holi- 
ness that  we  And  so  early  as  1216  Dominic  constituted 
Master  of  the  Sacred  Palace  under  Honorius  himself,  who 
now  created  the  office  expressly  in  reward  of  his  merits, 
and  bv  virtue  of  this  appointment  became  *  Interpreter 
of  Scripture  and  Censor  of  Books.'  It  is  worthy  of  re- 
mark that  this  office,  with  its  original  duties,  is  continued 
to  the  present  time.    At  tirst  they  called  tbemselvei 

*  Brothers  of  the  Virgin  Mary,'  instituting  at  the  same 
time  *  The  Devotion  of  the  Kosary '  in  her  honour.  This 
title,  howcvor,  was  afterwards  disallowed  by  the  Pope. 
Therefore  the  probabilities  are  strongly  in  favour  of  the 
belief  that  his  own  name  as  founder  of  the  order  was 
decided  on  as  their  final  choice,  vix.  to  be  *  Domini 
Canes,'  or  dogs  devoted  to  their  I^rd  and  Master's  ser- 
vice, unijuestioning  subservience  to  His  will,  and,  if  re- 
quired, to  hunt  out  of  the  most  hidden  comers  in  every 
land  any  heretics  they  might  find,  and  thus  destroy  every 
individual  who  incurred  suspicion  of  holding  any  tenet 
contrary  to  the  ordained  belief  as  expounded  by  the 
Pope,  aided  by  his  Master  of  the  Palace,  at  Rome. 

*•  Is  it  too  much  to  affirm  that  we  may  accept  as  a 
certainty  that  what  the  Pope  so  highly  patronised  would 
be  quicicly  taken  up  by  the  secular  authorities  ?  And, 
what  chiefly  concerns  us  in  these  investigations  regard- 
ing Peel  Ca'stle,  we  find  that  King  Alexander  II.  of  Scot- 
land, 1214-20,  made  the  acquaintance  of  St.  Dominic  at 
Paris,  and  was  so  pleased  with  all  he  saw  and  heard,  that 
he  begged  of  him  to  send  some  of  his  new  order  into 
Scotland  to  form  similar  institutions. 

**It  Ls  impossible  to  avoid,  and  not  out  of  place,  to 
notice  here  what  seems  a  singular  and  suggestive  coin- 
cidence as  regards  oiir  purpose,  that  Elizabeth  Mnir,  or 
Moor,  of  Rowhallion,  was  the  second  wife  of  this  monarch 
and  mother  of  his  son,  afterwards  Alexander  III.  So 
much  as  to  persons ;  and  for  place,  we  find  that  the  steep- 
sided  mountain  so  near  the  Peel  Island,  and  within  the 
bounds  of  the  Baal  Aspic,  is  called  *  Slieaa  Wballion '  (a 
shoe  or  sleeve),  arguing  some  common  origin  for  the 
name,  '  Dog,  or  Whelp,  Mountain.'  To  this  day  it  is 
remembered  as  the  place  where  witches — witchcraft  being 
an  ecclesiastical  offence— with  all  recusants  were  enclosed 
in  barrels  spiked  on  all  sides  within,  and  then  rolled  down 
to  the  bottom,  lacerated  and  torn,  life  being  itself  extinct. 
Of  St.  Dominic  himself  it  is  related  that  his  mother,  be- 
fore he  was  bom,  dreamed  that  she  was  deUvered  of  a 

*  whelp.' 

**  In  the  absence  of  direct  testimony,  but  which  the 
writer  hopes  may  vet  be  discovered,  is  it  not  more  than 
probable  that  our  Bishop  Simon,  of  whose  antecedents  no 
record  is  preserved  in  our  Manx  historiea,  had  become  a 
member  of  this  new  order,  especially  as  so  patronised  by 
a  king  of  Scotland,  who  made  it  no  secret  that  he  in- 
tend^ at  his  first  leisure  to  make  war  ttfainst,  and  of 
course  expected  to  conquer,  the  Isle  of  Man  (he  was, 
however,  dissuaded  from  his  purpose)  ?  This  order,  so 
well  calculated  to  advance  the  interests  of  a  man  so  am- 
bitioni  and  dever  wi  Simon  nndoabtedly  was^  indeed  was 


perhaps  chosen  for  tlic  episcopal  office  in  this  but  infant 
church  of  a  foreign  ])ower.  Wo  find  him  acwjrdinglj 
first  admitted  into  the  confidence  of  the  Scottiith  king, 
being  witness  to  more  than  one  royal  charter.  He  also, 
in  his  own  diocese  calle<l  *syno€U>,'  and  published  his 

*  Constitutions,'  also  making  thirteen  canons  for  the 
guidance  of  his  clergy.  We  must  again  repeat  the  im- 
portance of  this,  as  bearing  on  our  question,  namely,  that 
this  union  with  the  Roman  Church  was  of  very  recent 
date,  and  by  no  means  accepted  by  the  Manx'  nation 
generally.  Indeed  it  is  at  this  point  of  Manx  history 
we  should  properlv  introduce  the  legend  of  the  *  Kianc 
y  Treen  e  Marrow '  Ac.—*  The  Hen  of  the  Treen  is  dead !  * 
adopted  and  transformed  by  the  now  framers  into  <  St 
Catherine's  Hen  is  dead ! '  the  sound  being  nearly  the 
same. 

**  At  not  any  great  distance  firom  the  *  Slieau  Whallon,' 
though  not  in  the  same  valley,  there  rises  another  and 
similar  eminence  called  *  Slieau  Chaim,'  or  Mountain  of 
the  Lord,'  the  sides  of  which  are  pierced  with  grave 
mounds.  Thus  bringing  to  bear  upon  the  point  in  ques- 
tion an  accumulation  of  silent,  while  irresistible  and  most 
impressive  testimony  to  that  more  ancient  British  Church, 
over  the  expiring  remains  of  which  the  Requiem  was  first 
mournfully  chanted. 

"  What  is  now  called  St.  Patnck's  Chair  is  also  near 
to  this  memento  —  that  name  being  a  transfer  from 
'  Caayr  Sagarh.'  It  is  believed  that  in  it  Bishop  Conan 
(contraction  of  Constantine,  he  being  of  the  *  Lynan 
Wladig ')  sat,  receiving  all  who  came  for  baptism  in  the 
neighbouring  brook,  regulating  the  affairs  of  his  diocese, 
and  teaching  the  pure  doctrines  of  his  church. 

**  This  name  of  dog,  therefore,  conveyed  a  living  ad- 
monition against  any  opinions  whatsoever,  however  much 
cherished,  that  the  new  and  now  dominant  powers  might 
pronounce  to  be  heresy.  Simon,  it  is  said,  lived  to  a  great 
age,  and  was  buried  'in  the  Cathedral  he  had  been  at  to 
much  pain  to  complete,  and  a  dog — meet  emblem  of  aa 
order  that  openly  professed,  inde«i  boasted  of  it  as  aa 
act  of  faith,  that  they  hunted  down  heretics  from  holy- 
church  doctrines  in  this  so  newly  acquired  Papal  do- 
minion— was,  as  we  have  seen,  buried  with  him,— first 
bishop  of  that  *  Domini  Canes '  order,  and  became  the 
nnrthical  *  Mantha  Dhoo '  of  Peel  Island,  untH  the  nign 
of  Edward  Stanley,  third  Earl  of  Derby  and  fourth  lung 
in  Man.    By  his  orders  the  haunted  passage  of  the 

*  spectre  hound '  was  built  up. 

**  To  trace  up  dog  worship  to  its  origin  in  primeval 
times,  would,  in  the  present  instance,  be  more  cvtunm 
than  profitable.  The  sole  digest  of  this  paper  being  to 
mark  out,  if  possible,  the  date  and  circumstances  when 
this  typical  animal  became  associated  with  Christian 
custom  and  doctrine.  The  writer  is  quite  aware  that 
without  question  it  may  be  said  that  all  the  foregoinc 
argument  relates  more  to  the  biped  than  to  the  reu 

*  beast,'  that  in  all  which  belongs  to  him  it  only  foUowa 
its  own  natural  and,  in  a  quadrupedal  dog,  most  praisa- 
worthv  instincts.  This  is  quite  true,  and  these  notes— 
in  which  all  allusion  to  the  use  made  of  them  is  strena- 
onsly  avoided— roughly  jotted  down,  are  only  intended 
to  mark  and  account  for  this  peculiarity ;  and  if  ffonuiU 
Canes  cannot  be  accepted  as  good  Latin,  such  epithet  is 
at  least  suggestive. 

"It  is  remarkable  that  as  this  order  sprung  up  at  a 
remarkable  crisis  in  the  Church  of  Rome — so  the  expan- 
sion and  more  full  development  of  it  under  the  flame  of 
Jesuits,  also  founded  by  a  Spanish  nobleman — became 
also  a  mighty  engine  and  aid  on  a  later  occasion  and 
crisis.  The  order  of  St.  I>ominie  followed  the  rule  of 
St.  Augustine. 

"  After  all  that  has  been  here  written  in  order  to  gira 
its  doe  place  to  the  dog  in  St.  Simon's  grave— we  shoiild 


Ufitre  the  pxptetp.l  .lay  uf  a«.m  •   Thi»  belief  Uinp.  a 
we  bave  Milrl,  t;enrrsllv  belil,  we  can  euilv  jud^e  buw 
would  qnut™  tli«  -■"■.■rt'ies  of  this  nii»diri«t*J  zeal,  i 

thfo,  the  crvlDg  evila  tbat  pervaded  and  disgraced,  m-U 
h»  axcepUoBS,  aU  lodet/  id  that  iawleas  era. 

"Gktbbaoh." 

'   Bo«kHDmit,IikorMiii. 

William  IIabbison 

"WALLISGERS." 

(4'»  a  ix.  447.) 

In  nplf  to  Mb.  Skipidn'b  inquiry  lespecUog 

&B  ironl  "  Wolliager,"  Mr.  Earle  had  evidently 

Dmh  led  into  «n  errot  vhen  he  wtot»— "  ■  term 

fliatUorwu  to  be  eeenon  the  walls  of  Che«ter,  in 

•  tBhlatoommemondve  of  repaira  done  to  the  city 
widL  The  mtUiiwen  were  •tinual  officen  charged 
nUh  ths  lapair  of  the  walla." 

I  itm  nerar  heard  of  or  leen  the  tablet,  or 
bdiidof  tba  wtodttaell  At  reguda  the  keepers 
oC  on  **U%  ^V  luive  gsnenUj  been  caUed 

*  Hnnogen  "  w  "  Unringart,"  and  Mmetinies 
"Hanma";  for  aaanplfc  in  th«  charter  of 
Han;  VlL  giantad  in  the  Slat  jeat  of  hia 
nlga- 

'    "And  mononr  -wt  bara  glToi  uid  gnnted  to  the 


fW$,M  ^  eUAm  ktK*  im»  aMaiftmetf  toiii,  and  tbat 
.wtfWtmyjMz  tinitm  and tapalr  the mlb  of  tbedt^ 


4*  S.  IX.  JcKE  29,  '72.] 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


541 


mained  entire  until  1813,  and  that  when  he  wrote 
in  1831  it  was  almost  obliterated.  At  this  pre- 
sent time  but  a  yery  few  letters  are  Tisible.  It 
was  decided  at  a  meeting  of  the  council  last  Feb- 
ruary to  have  this  structure  repaired,  and  the  in- 
scription replaced,  but  as  yet  nothing  has  been 

done. 
On  the  western  side  of  the  Watergate— 
«*  In  the  xxix  year  of  the  rcign  of  Geo.  III.  in  the 

Mayoralty  of  John  Halwood  and  John  Leigh,  Esqnires, 

this  gate  waa  erected.— Thomaa  Cotgreave,  Edward  Bur- 

rowee,  Esquires,  Morengers." 

And  on  the  Bridgegate — 

**This  Gate  waa  began  April  m.dcc.lxxzii.  Pattiaon 
Ellames,  Mayor,  and  finished  December  the  same  year, 
Thomas  Pattison,  Esquire,  Mayor. 

JosBFH  TuBXER,  Architect" 

On  the  Eastgate  and  the  Northgate  the  term  is 
not  used. 

I  could  give  seyeral  other  examples,  but  think 
the  above  quite  ample.  The  term  •'  Wallinger  " 
is,  I  belieye,  used  in  the  salt  districts  by  North- 
wich.  Robert  Mosbib. 

Bichmond  House,  Chester. 

These  are  said  to  be  ''  annual  officers  charged 
with  the  care  of  the  walL"  But  it  is  worthy  of 
consideration,  whether  they  were  other  than  those 
during  the  seventeenth  and  eighteenth  centuries 
in  Scotland,  and  possibly  elsewhere,  who,  in  trade»- 
men's  accompts,  were  called  wawers  «  wallers,  con- 
structors of  walls,  builders.  A  messenger  is  one 
who  carries  a  message ;  and  sUMtger,  or  ttaUanjier, 
one  who  sets  up  a  stell  for  the  sale  of  merchandise. 
So  vmllmger  may  denote  him  (of  the  mason  craft) 
who  either  erects  walls  or  takes  a  supervision  of 
them  {valhis,  L. ;  gwal,  W.)  Espedabb. 


'<  Secret  Socibtibs  of  the  Middlb  Aess " 
(4«»  S.  ix.  359,  436,  489.)— I  greatiy  wish  Mb. 
CoATES  had  kept  ulence,  and  so  allowed  me  to  do 
the  same,  for  he  is  like  a  lawyer  speaking  from 
his  brief,  and  apparently  knows  nothmg  about  the 
real  state  of  things.  I  therefore  may  content 
myself  with  giving  his  assertions  a  flat  denial ; 
but  let  Mr.  Coates  produce  a  nngle  page  of  a 
proof-sheet  with  a  single  correction  in  my  hand- 
writing, and  I  will  ac&owledge  my  memory  has 
deceived  me. 

I  cannot  recollect  ever  having  written  anything 
on  the  subject  which  could  he  called  an  auto- 
graph. Perhaps  a  note  on  the  subject  in  the 
octavo  edition  of  my  History  of  England  of  the 
Time  of  Edvxtrd  11.  may  have  oeen,  by  mistake, 
called  an  autograph.    In  this  latter,  which  was 

Frinted  a  couple  ot  years  after  The  Secret  Societies^ 
noticed  how  this  last  had  been  tampered  with 


\ 


and  printed  without  my  knowledge.     I  simply 
observed  that  I  thought  it  an  unusual  proceeding. 
Having  thus  stated  what  I  know  to  be  the 
truth,  I  obrop  the  subject  for  ever. 

Thomas  Eeightlbt. 

"  Why  are  they  shut  ?  "  (4"»  S.  ix.  507.)-- 
The  answer  to  W.  P.  is — Horace  Smith ;  see  his 
Poetical  Works,  vol.  i.  p.  107,  ed.  1S46 ;  and  for 
further  particulars  see  *'N.  &  Q.''  ^^  S.  vL  173. 

W.  T.  M. 

Shlnfield  Grove. 

Napoleoit  on  boabd  the  Nobthttxreblabd 
(4*^  S.  ix.  50, 123^ — ^P.  A.  L.  expresses  astonishment 
and  regret  that  England  should  not  have  followed 
the  example  of  the  Emperor  Francis,  and  have  given 
Napoleon  Buonaparte  the  tiUe  of  Emperor.  Those 
who  thus  express  themselves  forget  tnat  Napoleon 
Buonaparte  was  never  known  officially  in  England 
as  the  ruler  of  France  except  as  General  Buona- 
parte, Urst  Consul.    The  iPeace  of  Amiens  was 
Droken  before  he  became  enoperor,  and  he  had 
ceased  to  be  emperor  of  the  French  before  Eng- 
land knew  him  officially  in  any  other  capacity.  A 
parallel  case  is  furnished  by  the  Crimean  war. 
This  began  when  the  sovereign  of  Russia  was  the 
Emperor  Nicholas,  and  it  was  not  till  peace  was 
concluded  that  the  English  government  was  offi- 
cially informed  that  he  was  dead,  and  that  the 
reigning  emperor  was  Alexander.    Would  there 
not  have  bera  a  mockery  in  Riring  Napoleon 
Buonaparte,  a  prisoner,  that  title  of  whicn  the 
Englisn  government  had  known  nothing  when  he 
was  sovereign  in  France  P  So  long  as  he  remained 
in  Elba  the  title  of  Emperor  was  his  right^  but 
when  he  abandoned  Elba  he  abandoned  the  rights 
he  acquired  therewith.    That  Napoleon  Buona- 
parte ignored  the  customs  and  rules  acknowledged 
D^  diplomatists  as  advantageous  in  smoothing  the 
difficulties  of  offidal  intercourse  was  the  fiuut  61 
his  want  of  education  in  some  respects,  but  still 
more  the  fault  of  his  constitution  of  mind,  whidi 
acknowledged  no  law  but  his  own  present  con- 
venience; and  why  was  England  to  foUow  his 
example  and  give  a  titie  that  had  become  mean- 
ingless P  G.  IL  E.  C. 

Oakev  ABcmiECTUKB  (4^  S.  ix.  424, 477.>--If 
Mb.  Nichols  will  refer  to  the  Church  Builder 
( Aivingtons)  for  April  last  he  will  find  an  aoconnty 
with  plans  and  sections,  of  the  wooden  towers  of 
Mountnessing  and  Margaretting  churches  in  Essex. 
Greensted  church,  near  Ongar,  is  likewise  entirely 
built  of  wood,  and  goes  back  to  the  Saxon  period. 

W.  T.  T.  D. 

ToxTCHDie  Glasses  when  BBiKKiKe  Healths 
(4*^  S.  V.  vi.  paeeim,) — ^Within  the  last  dajr  or 
two  I  have  heard  another  version  of  the  origin  of 
thii  custom — ^viz.  that  it  originated  with  thA^D&ssBJn^ 


542 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


L4»«>  S.  IX.  JiNB  29,  •72. 


tog^'tlior,  to  toiirli  tlifii'  irl:!--:!'?  ;  two  sii?o  1)V  side  , 
and  tl!»"  nt!i-r  ovi-r.  iln^  ilir.-'  t.  •..-■■..•  t,i:«T  iTHiinp:  a  . 
Hort  nf  trianj:]*^  with  tin*  ba-f  dtiwnwjud-i,  which 
custom  liiul  .^«i!iii'  r.-ft-ri'iiii'  i.i  xho  Ilolv  Trinity. 

IjAVCAI'MA. 

Tfik  LT:TTris  ok  St.  I^fNvrn-*^  (-1'''  S.  iii.  '^27  ; 
viii. -VJl''. ) — III  I!.'.;  ronri'iijicMli-Mi  t):f'  fi  llinvinj 
inf<»rni.i;i"»ri  is  ;=  ujLrlit: — ilav«'  t!i' n'  \;'iMa1)lo  nn.l 
pi-'-cioii-;  <l«»f"i:iMT.ts  v\rv  ])'i»Ti  ]Mil»l:-li"«l ;  niul  if  | 
HO,  l)v  v.-!jhii  ,".Mii  wlii.Ti; 'r     IV"/!'  Jli'iiiv  in  l'*^71 

Tliis  work  has  lu'rii  pubii^!l•'ll  bv  iJ.inis,  <)al«.'?, 
&  Cii.,  hoiil.  I'^ri.  1  J»m  n«it  awar«'  wht'thor 
L'juix'd  work  hiu  vut  ajip^ari-d  in  Knirli-^li  or  not, 

John  I)ori». 

J  J.I  vs  water. 

"Knolavj^  i::n:cT<  7'\ritv  ^rvy,"  i:tc.  CI'**  S. 
ix.  !.*{<>,  Iss. ) — Waller's  (a'i.i-tf.ftf  <>/  Anfotfraphij 
No.  t>*»,  just  r'.'Ci'ivod,  contains  ih.'  r>ll  )win;r  : — 

•'*Jt«.  *  N.l'.'iii.nin,'  A.  L.  S.  1  i..  S'v".  of  .lolin  Tasco' 
I  liail  thi-  ilNti:i.i;uiNln'<l  hmiour  tn  iii;il;«*  tii"  iu'Vor-t»)-l)e- 
forj^ottcn  si'^iKii — *  Kni;l:ni«l  rx]-*  "ts  cvitv  iiriu  will  do 
his  duty,' &!'.,  Hv«\  t-iijrr.ni:i;^  »>!'  tli»'  ship  Viotdry,  and 
till'  sIl^iiuI  llnir-:  (•irawii)i;>)  ia  U'lfur,  in>ii.ntiHl  vn  a  shoct 
ol"  drawiii,i;-iia|n'r." 

J 0-1. I'll  TlIOilAS. 

The  Grei'ii,  Stralfonl,  lo. 

IlF.i)  (^iio>.s  Ih:Ki:roui),  a  Misnomtil  (1**'  9.  ix. 
.301,  .'wL*.;— An  old  ll».'ivl*«'r.lian  writes: — 

"I  havo  m  uli*  iiiipiiriis  riliKu!  tlio  1 1  vd  Cross,  and,  I 
think,  liiive  :  \  Ivrd  iln-  iiiy.-.ti'rv.  lilacUtViar^'  i  "ross  sl.irids 
in  the  ^anh'ii  t»t(.''Uiiii:;^lty*s.  nr,  as  it  i>  usually  calK'd, 
Urd  Coat  Hii':iiil.-'.l.  Tlu"  imiuiti's  -vvrir  n-\  i-n.its,  and  a 
fhiMiil  of  nii'if  t'll  *  nj"!  it  was  uiivn  r.dlo.l  by  i^rmraiiiusea 
fornu'rly,  ilu'  Ili-d  Cr«»>s  llu^liital,  tlir  Ula-Utriars*  Crt>s8 
and  the*  lii'd  Cuat  l».  iti.:;  jmnMi'il  t-'u-'tlw-r.  In  a  rolleotkm 
of  prints  ill  im-MV.-'iini  of  tlu-  ilin-lord  Anticiuarian 
S«»cietv  is  one  «»f  the  JI«'d  Cm-fi,  a  cinv  dl'  that  vou  MJioired 
inc,  and  in  thi*  iiidnx  this  is  reft'rrtHl  to  as  *  1»l'iI  Crosss  in- 
tcndi.Hl  for  lihuk  (-ro-js  Vanl.'  No  doiiht  I'llaik  Cro«  is 
an  orror  for  lllaok  Friars'  0«»-^.  This,  I  think,  ex- 
plains it.*' 

Anox. 

An  AuTni:.\Tir  Docimknt  ( t"'  S.  ix.  TW;,  JrO.) 
A  small  chap-houk  of  liflri'ii  piij-v^",  containing  a 
It'ttitr  somewhat  siniilar  (■)  iho  niu*  **ft.»und  noar 
Ilunday  Ivii*,''  is  u-nally  I'xpostd  lor  salo  on  tho. 
fcw(ireek  Ijookstalls  at  ('(msianrm'ipli\  I  have 
a  copy  in  modi-rn  (ireck,  and  anotlicT  in  Albanian. 
Tho  titlo  of  tho  formeris— i:ni2T0AH  tot  ktpiot 
HMnN  ih:lOT  xp12T0T.  It  \A  wiihnut  imprint, 
but  the  title-pa^'o  bear.s  the  dato  1>  17.  Tho  title 
of  the  Albanian  copy  is  PAnni.MIZ  lUroTS  XPI2- 
T02  E4>KNTIN1N  PI2AAi:21,  and  the  imprint  ABH- 
NATA,  ISril.  Thi»  "letter''  is  said  to  havo  been 
found  at  tho  lioly  city  of  Jerusalem  in  tho  tomb  of 
tho  Virj:in  Mary,  and  there  i.s  a  nirrativo  of  how 
it  fell  from  heaven,  graven  on  a  st-me,  in  the  time 
of  the  Patriarch  'iwan'iirios  of  Jerusalem.  I  con- 
fess that  I  am  altogether  i>rnor:int  of  the  period 
when   that    worthy  patriarch    liourished.      The 


"  letter  '*  is  excr^edinjrly  curious,  and  may  probably 
have  been  d^'rivud  from  the  same  *'  original ''  as 
thtj  *•  J  lunday  Ivie  '*  one.  J.  A. 

K«linl>iu^b. 

Ladies  oy  IIoitsEnACK  (4*^  S.  viii.  8, 4G5.)  —  I 
havo  lately  met  with  an  old  engraving  reprewnt- 
ing  a  i^tng  hunt,  time  of  James  I.  or  Klizaboth, 
wliere  some  grand  dame  follow.ji  the  hounds  in 
l)wad  and  embroidered  silk  knec-breoclies,  show- 
ing o\\  a  well-shaped  leg,  and  evidently  riding 
like  a  man,  a  raUfonrchun^  as  the  FrtMich  term  it, 
or,  as  I  once  heard  it  called,  a  In  fourclwtte.  I  be? 
to  enclose  a  8k»*tch  of  this  plate,  which  is  curious. 
There  is  no  engraver's  name  to  it.  P.  A.  L. 

OLirnANT  Bakont  (;^"»  S.  ix.5o :  4*'»  S.  ix.  322, 
303.) — Tho.se  who  wish  to  learn  anything  about  the 
Oliphant  title  should  read  the  Jacubiff  L'tirdi  of 
(lUfkj  published  by.Grillin  in  1^70.  It  will  there 
bo  seen  that  no  family  was  ever  more  troubled 
with  a  copious  hnvnl  of  impostors,  bastards,  &c. : 
and  thiii  brood  bcmmus  not  yet  to  have  come  to  an 
end.  Tho  sucwssion  to  the  title  of  Oliphant  wis 
limited  to  tlie  male  line  by  Charles  I.  in  H>i3. 

There  was  an  Oliphant  lawsuit,  lasting  from 
1?S17  to  1.S07,  in  whicli  it  was  proved  that  all  heir 
males  ari?  now  extinct.  X. 

<'OrTTA  TAVAT  Lapidkm"  (V^  S.  IX.  ^2,  414, 
404.) — Ovid  h:;s  the  very  word-*  in  his  J-^jnAt.  X. 
c.r  Puntoy  line  T) ;  — 

**  ihitt>i  c.iv:tt  /ff/t.'f/.  m;  oon.^umitarannuln^  usu."* 
But  John  i>tob!eu3,  the  industrious  Greek  writer, 
of  the  end  «»f  the  ft)urth  century  and  commence- 
ment of  the  fifth,  attributes  this  proverb  to  Bion 
of  Smvrna:  — 

'Eic  dautvus  fia(iiifuyyoSj  uirws  \&yos^  cucy  lotaaSf 
Koi  \i6os  h  f'WXMhif  KoiAalrfTOi. 

Thus  rendered  in  Latin  — 

•'  V.x.  numi-ro-a  ^iittn,  ut  niunt,  porpetuo  stillante, 
Ktiam  lapis  in  si-issiirain  cxcavatur.'* 

F.  C.  H. 

.ToiiN'  Wesley's  Footprints  (4*»>  S.  ix.  100, 494.) 
The  stone  slab  on  which  John  Wesley  stood  to 

{breach  in  Kpworth  churchyard  covers  the  tottib  of 
lis  father,  Samuel  Wesley,  who  was  rector  of  the 
parish  for  thirty-nine  years.  It  lies  among  mmny 
others  near  tho  chancel  door.  Tho  so-called  foot- 
prints have  not  tho  form  of  a  foot  Mr.  Walter 
white,  in  his  Eaxtcm  Entjland^  says  co^iceming 
them :  — 

**  On  tilt!  blank  portion  of  the  stone,  below  the  inserip- 
tion,  aro  two  ;;rQup«  of  small  irrepiUir  imprpmons  about 
twenty  indict  apart,  which  look  scorched  and  nistv  .  .  . 
The  tra<litinn  h»A  not  yet  died  out  that  John  \V'«sley 
onco  .st(X>d  ban*foot  to  preach  on  his  father's  fnnib,  ao^ 
t^rew  into  suoh  a  fervour  that  his  toes  burnt  hollows  in 
the  very  substance  of  the  stone.** 

X.  p.  D. 

"Siell'*  (V^  S.  ix.  447,  4950—1  tranaoib* 
a  few  lines  fr^im  my  Cieveland  GloBmry^  whidi 


40-  S.  IX.  JuxK  i: 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


543 


nwj  periiapfl    illustrate  the    deriTation  of  tliLi 

"  Steli,  iL  1.  An  open  ditch  or  draio  of  some  depth 
and  vidtii,  willi  or  nilhcut  water  conitantJy  in  i[  ot 

■' '  SIrll,  «  lii^  open  drain  in  a  mursh '  (Brockett)  - 
■ »  Uip  ojien  drain,  Cumb.'  (llalliwell).  Thero  caa  b 
no  donbt  th«l  tliis  U  merely  tlie  ntbrevimtioo  of  lealtr-ilell , 
Compare  temttr-tlrad,  tbe  bed  of  a  river,  fnini  llalliwell ; 
Avfl.  imltr-iaml,  a  water-place,  lake,  marah.  Tiiere  in 
Kverai  aiuluipms  inslancea  of  tha  uae  of  Ihe  word  '  xtell ': 
la'iletl.a  fol.l  fnr  cuttle,  North.' (Hilllwell)i  ilrlling,  i. 
place  whcri;  cuttle  retire  to  in  hot  weatber — ilcll  btia-^ 
■imply  place,  pluvu  wt  niiart,  fbr  tbis  or  that  purpose  ^ 
A.-B.  tliiil,  a  fCall,  plnve,  Atcnil ;  kurm-itral,  a  place  for 
bones,  UT  II  etnLle— ifuA/r  itself  being  a  gimitar  iiulauco 
of  an  absolute  menniri;  arbitrarily  imposed  uponawon] 
wblch  had  originally  a  mach  wider  or  more  geniral 
mesnint;.  Comiiarv  bIm,  O.  H.  G.  itall,  Uerni.  lU/lr; 
ktnttal,  the  core  of  an  apple  or  other  fruit,  titetaUy  tbi; 
kernel -plofe.  WKi[;cwo(id  quotes  also  Bav,  Arrtmtlall,  n 
candlestick,  and  A »r^i<aZ/,  a  place  where  a  castle  alauds  or 
huitdod." 

J.  C.  AlXIBBOK. 

Danby-in-Cl  evelsnd. 

TitT  FAKitY  (.3""  S.  i.  62.)— Mr.  M'Leod  oaks 
for  informntiim  about  ft  family  of  thia  oame  which 
came  from  Wi>rcf:<tershire,  and  bore  (be  tbitilcs} 
for  arms  a  clievrnn  between  three  roundlcB,  and 
for  crest  a  dolphin.  He  add?,  that  thia  family 
represeated  "a  junior  branch  of  the  Frotecto/a 
house."  I'eisonR  of  this  muno  were  lifing  about  a 
CMitDTj  ago  at  Stourbridge,  and  &t  Bronugrore,  in 
Woreeatershire ;  but  I  ani  not  aware  that  thej 
bore  anna.  One  of  the  latter  sealed  a  deed  with 
an  eaplc,  rising  from  a  ducal  coronet ;  but  that  maj 
hare  been  tha  crest  of  the  attorney  who  prepared 
the  document.  Mk.  M'Leod  may  be  able  to  fur- 
niab  me  with  «  correct  deacription  of  the  anna  and 
Meat  used  by  this  family,  wid  alao  to  giTe  a  few 
particulara  of  their  genealo^. 

I  may  mention  that  there  was  a  family  of 
Cromwell  living  at  UroinBgrove  about  tha  anme  ' 
period.  II.  Sidkisi  GBAZEnBOOK.     I 

SlouHnidge.  I 

NinoK  DC  i.'Bhclos  kso  Duxe  oe  Poictisks  I 
(4'"  S.  11,  427,)— Wherever  the  authors  of  hooka 
on  the  preservation  of  beauty  found  their  state-  , 
mentfi  about  the  mode  of  wwfare  of  these  ladies  ' 
with  tha  enemy  Time,  it  is  certain  they  began  it 
with  the  adrnntages  of  the  combination  of  dark  \ 
eijei  and  yellow  hair.     The  texture  uid  colour  of  I 
skin  that  accompany  these  preserve  a  youthful  i 
Bt^waronce  to  comparatiTelf  advanced  age.    The 
combination  is  not  common  id  any  county,  but  it 
is  tbe  Venottnn  type  of  beauty.         O.  M.  E.  C.     I 

SioCKTOiT  (4"  S.  \x.  486.)— This  word  is  no  I 
doubt  from  the  placo  named  Stockton,  and  would  ' 
onginally  be  "is  Stockton."  The  <&  would  ba  | 
diicontinued  about  iemp.  Edw,  IV.  (see  Camden's 
Rtmaint,  p.  1 2 1).  Slode,  in  the  plaice-name  Stock-  j 
taa,  ia  ^onymons  or  nearly  so  with  feid,  so  tltat  ] 


'  StoctoH  would  moat  probably  be  a  tun  or  hom»- 

'  etaad  upon  Inndnearlyclcared  of  timber;  t.«.wiU) 
the  stumps  of  tlie  traes  remaining,  eicept  upon 
the  actniLl  ute  of  the  residence.      C.  Chattocs. 

Castle  Bromwich. 

This  is  one  of  the  many  imrnames  taken  frooa 
the  name  of  the  place  from  which  the  founder  of 
the  family  sprang,  or  in  connection  with  which  he 
wna  best  known.  Lower  (^Fatrom/mica  Sriltat- 
tiica)  mentions  towna  and  parishes  so  called  in 
eight  counties,  and  Stocktons  may  owetheirorigin 
to  any  point  of  the  compass.  "  In  the  West  of 
England  " — I  am  quoting  Mr.  Lower — "  to  itock 
means  to  root  up,  and  a  kocker  ia  a  man  employed 
to  fell  or  grub  up  trees."  I'robably  all  the  towns 
called  Stockton  were  founded  on  sites  cleared  for 
the  pnrpoee  ;  ono  of  them  is  knowTi  u  Stockton- 
on-tfae-coreat  to  this  day.  There  ia  mention  made 
of  liodt  on  tha  very  opporito  page  to  that  od 
which  A  CoKSTAiiT  Reader's  query  appears — 
namely,  in  Esprdarf.'s  article  on  "  Monastic  In- 
ventories," 'i'he  references  there  given  may  bo 
useful  to  A.  C.  R.  St.  Swithih. 

Bborxe  IlEAn  POUKD  AT  BiTH  (4"  S.  ix.  484.) 
There  in  a  bronze  head  in  the  Museum  at  Bath. 
An  engraving  of  it  may  be  Been  in  the  Art 
Jottmtd  for  July  1871,  p.  182,  in  one  of  a  series 
of  papers  on  the  "Museums  of  England."  The 
author  says  tha  head  has  t>een 

"  Broken  off  forcibly  from  a  etatue  which  has  never  bees 
found,  variously  conjectured  to  be  that  of  ApoUo  and  of 
UinervH.     It  baa  iKcn  eagravod  in  Vttmtia  MenwHoiia.'* 

Si.  Swithdi. 


I  Salmon  (4>'  S.  ix.  486.)— Is 
-.irlydays  the  flesh  [^  the  porpoise  wasconndered 
of  great  value  as  a  reeal  dish.     It  occurs  in  s  list 

'  of  provisions  which  beAra  date  1376,  under  the 

'  cognomen  of  a  "aes  hog."  Its  usual  price  then 
was  the  same  as  tho  lawyer's  fee  of  the  pratwot 
day  (6(.  8(/.)  Several  difierent  sorts  of  lowl  m 
well  OS  flsh  occur  in  the  same  liat,  which  were 

I  then  used  as  eatables,  but  have  long  been  struck 
out  of  the  "  bill  of  fare."  Even  in  Henry  VUi's 
time  tha  porpoiM  was  esteemed  a  great  luxury  an 

:  a  roast,  served  up  with  a  aauce  made  of  fine 
white  broad-crumba  mixed  with  vinegar  and  sugar. 

I  At  a  later  period  the  porpoise  kept  its  place  on 

I  the  tables  of  Roman  Catholics  on  iiah-days  and 
during  I«nt  It  is  now  almost,  if  not  qaite, 
grown  into  disuse.  Perhaps  thia  has  arisen  from 
theditHcultythereisiDobtAiningit    Tha  Thames 

'  in  former  days  was  noted  for  the  number  of  these 
animals  which  abounded  in  its  wateia.  It  ia, 
however,  a  long  time  since  a  porpoise  made  ita 
appearance  in  the  Thames.  It  was  conventionally 
looked  upon  as  a  fish,  in  common  vith  seal.  Otter 
itnd  certain  sea-fowl,  by  the  eccleiiasticml  rulen  of 
the  land  j  ita  flesh  was  a  great  boon  to  tboee  who 
cared  not  for  «  fish  diet  on  the  nwltiplied  meagr* 


544 


NOTES  AND  QUERIES. 


[4*k  S.  IX.  Jan  29,  TIL 


days  which  studded  the  Calendar,  and  at  the  same 
time  wore  too  reverential  towards  the  ecclesias- 
tical superiors  to  eat  that  which  was  openly  con- 
sidered as  hutcher*fl  meat.  See  J.  G.  w  ood  s  NaL 
Hut.  ("Mammalia"),  p.  54*2.  Jjocko  mentions 
the  porpoise  as  havinff  "  the  warm  blood  and 
entrails  of  a  hoj^."  The  fatty  substance  of  the 
body  is  used  in  general  for  chemical  purposes, 
and  when  subjected  to  heat  it  throws  out  a  very 

Eowerful  odour.     One  would  imagine  Swift  to 
ave  laboured  under  a  supcriluitv  of  the  like  fatty 
substance  when  he  penned  the  following  couplet : 

^'  And  then  I  drag  a  bloated  corpus 
Swell'd  with  a  dropsy  like  a  por]M»ii«e.** 

W.  Winters. 

Waltham  Abbey. 

•'  Testaments  of  the  XII.  Patriarchs  " 
(4»»»  S.  ix.  480.)— The  earliest  edition  of  this  re- 
markable book  known  to  me  is  preser^-ed  in  the 
British  Museum,  and  is  considered  to  have  been 
printed  in  "  1520.''  This  is,  however,  conjectural, 
as  the  book  itself  is  not  dated.  It  consists  of 
about  41  pages  (without  pagination)  beside  the 
title-page,  which  is  ornamented  with  a  variety  of 
grotesque  characters,  and  contains  the  following 
inscription : — 

^'Testam^ta  duodecim  Patriarcharfl  filionim  Jacob,  e 
greco  in  latina  versa  Roberto  hinconicnsi  Kpiacopo  in- 
terpret©."   4to. 

There  is  also  a  later  Latin  version  of  this  book, 
folio  size,  dated  1555.  It  was  Englished  in  10(50. 
Grosseteste  was  informed  of  the  book  by  John  de 
Basing,  upon  whose  information  the  bishop  sent 
to  Greece  for  it,  and  obtained  it.  Mathcw  Paris 
intimates  that  this  work  had  been  suppressed  or 
secreted  by  the  Jews  on  account  of  the  open  and 
manifest  prophecies  contained  in  it  relating  to  our 
Saviour.  Hallam  calls  the  work  '^  an  apocryphal 
legend."  (See  Hallam*s  Lit,  Hist.  Europe.)  Dr. 
Samuel  Pegge,  prebendary  of  Louth,  published  in 
1703  the  Life  of  Robert  Grosseteste,  Bishop  of 
Lmcoln,  in  which  work  much  is  recorded  of  the 
said  Testament.  Transcripts  of  the  Bishop's  Latin 
Testament  will,  I  think,  be  found  in  the  library 
of  the  University  of  Cambridge,  a  copy  of  which 
work  begins,  "  Transcriptum  Testatnentum  ruheti" 
and  ends,  "  iisque  ad  diem  ejciius  eorum  ex  terra 
effipti.^'  The  last  leaf  contains  notes  on  the 
amount  of  tithes  in  England,  some  medical  re- 
ceipts, and  some  Latin  verses,  with  the  date  1510. 
This  was  printed  in  Paris  in  1540.  See  Catalogue 
of  Manuscripts  in  the  University  Library,  vol.  iL 
46,  200;  iv.  881.  W.  Winters. 

Waltham  Abbey. 

"  Cry  IIavock  "  (4»»»  S.  ix.  463.)— Is  not  the 
exact  technical  meaning  of  the  cry  hawck!^=z 
"slaughter  without  mercy,"  "  no  quwrter  "  P  The 
commentators  seem  to  agree  in  this  condunon, 
from  the  use  of  the  phrase  by  Shakespeare.  The 
statute  quoted  by  F.  J.  F.  (also  quoted  more  than 


once  in    Variorum  8,  ed.  1821)  bean  out  tfait 
meaning.    In  CorioianuSy  III.  1,  we  have — 

*'  Do  not  cnr,  havock,  where  yoa  should  bat  hunt 
With  moJest  warranto" 

In  K.  John,  II.  2— 

**  Cry,  havoek,  kingfl !  back  to  the  stained  field.** 

Shake8peare*s  use  of  the  term  points  to  a  sport- 
ing derivation  (?  hafoc).  See  the  Corioianus  pas- 
sage, and  again  Hamlet,  V.  2  — 

**  This  qaarry  cries  on  (*» cries  against)  havoek." 

For  common  soldiers  (not  *'  kings "  and  com- 
manders) to  frive  the  cry,  ''  no  quarter  I  *'  could 
not  be  allowed.  JoHir  Addis,  M.A. 

Rastington,  Littlehampton,  Sussex. 


NOTES  ON  BOOKS,  EXa 

MemoriaU  of  the  Reign  of  King  Henry  the  Sixth.  Ofieial 
Correspondence  of  Thomat  BekyntiMj  Secretary  to  King 
Henry  the  Sixth,  and  Biaftop  of  Bath  and  WeU$,  JSdited 

from  a  MS.  in  the  ArchiejHMcopal  LU>rary  at  f^iMftfrt. 
With  an  Appendix  of  Illiutrative  DoemauHts.  By 
George  WUIiams,  B.D.,  Vicar  of  Ringwood,  Uto  Fellow 

of  ELing's  College,  Cambridge.  In  two  Vebaua.  (Long^ 
man.) 

The  name  of  Thomas  Bekynton,  one  of  the  moat  abb 
and  active  ecclesiastics  of  his  time,  has  long  been  familiar 
to  readers  of  English  History  fh>m  the  Journal  of  Ua 
Embassy  to  Bourdeaux,  edited  by  the  late  Sir  H.  Nioolai^ 
and  the'Mcmoir  of  the  prelate  prefixed  to  it  by  that  ac- 
complished antiquary.'  The  volames  before  us^  taken 
chiefly  from  a  Lambleth  MS.,  with  an  appendix  of  other 
documents,  among  which  will  be  found  the  Joamal  of 
which  Sir  Harris  Nicolas  pablished  a  translation,  throw 
modi  light  on  the  foreign  relations  and  domestie  eon- 
dition  of  England  daring  the  reign  of  Henry  the  Sixth, 
as  well  as  on  the  private  life  and  character  of  Bekyn- 
ton. The  contents  of  the  Lambeth  MS.  are  well  deacribed 
b;^  Wharton  as  comprising  **  very  many  letters  of  the 
Bishop  himself  written  in  his  own  or  the  King's  namc^ 
and  of  others  sent  to  him  or  to  the  King  darinj^  the  time 
that  he  was  his  Secretarv;  besides  other  diatmgnialied 
monuments  of  his  a^  which  had  fallen  into  hia  haadi^ 
brought  together  withoat  any  order  or  arrangemeiit." 
The  former  part  describes  accarately  enoogh  the  work 
before  as :  bat  the  Editor  has,  by  a  careful  anmngenMnt 
of  his  materials,  removed  the  oMection  involved  in  the 
latter  part  of  Wharton's  note  by  prefixing  a  chrono- 
logical Calendar  of  the  Doeumenta  with  a  anmmaiy  of 
their  contents,  from  which  it  appears  that  thej  extend 
over  a  period  of  more  than  half  a  oentnry,  ftom  the  reigii 
of  Richard  II.  to  the  latter  part  of  that  of  Henry  VI.  It 
is  needless  to  say  one  word  as  to  the  valoe  of  *the  book 
before  us,  therefore,  to  stndents  of  that  period  of  oar 
history. 

Traditiomt,  SMpentitiont,  and  Folk  Lars  (ehieflu  Loaca* 
thire  and  the  North  of  England) ;  their  jCgUiiy  is 
athert  in  widely-diatrunited  Loauiiki,  detr  Eaattrm 
Origin,  and  Mythical  Sign^leanee,  By  Charlea  Hanl- 
wick,  Aathor  of  the  <•  History  ot  Preatont"  &c.  (Ira- 
land,  Manchester.) 

Living  in  a  neighbourhood  where  the  ateam-Migiiio  b 
rapidly  stamping  out  tradition,  Mr.  Hardwidc  bat  dona 
good  service  by  gathering  up  taoh  fragments  aa  nmaSm 
of  onr  old  Folk  Lore.    He  has  dona  mow    ha  baa  idaa 
Tonred  to  show  the  ralatioa  which  modi  of  what  myfimn 


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545 


trifliDg  or  grotesque  bears  to  graver  studies  and  in- 
quiries. If  ever  a  Jacob  Grimm  rises  up  among  us  to 
embodv  in  an  **  English  Mythology  "  the  scattered  relics 
of  our  'Popular  Superstitions  and  Beliefs,  he  will  assuredlv 
not  cast  aside  the  book  before  us  as  one  undeserving  his 
attention. 

The  Reference  Peerage  and  Baronetage  from  June,  1872, 
to  July,  1873.     One  Shilling.    (Dean  &  Son.) 

TAe  Reference  Bouse  of  Commom,    (Ditto.) 
Two  useful  little  books,  alike  compact  and  cheap. 

We  are  pleased  to  inform  our  readers  that  the  long- 
expected  work  bv  the  Rev.  H.  T.  Ellaoombe,  a  detailed 
account  of  Uie  Bells  in  Devon,  with  a  "  Supplement  about 
Bells  of  the  Church,"  is  now  in  the  course  of  delivery  to 
the  Subscribers.  It  is  a  g^oodly  volume  consisting  of  550 
4to  pages,  86  Plates,  and  about  400  Illustrations.  The 
supplement  contains  an  Account  of  Bell-fonnding ;  a  His- 
tory of  various  Societies  of  Ringers  from  the  Guild  of 
Ringers  in  the  time  of  Edward  the  Confessor;  the  Law 
of  Church  Bells,  and  a  List  of  Bell  Literature ;  an  Ac- 
count of  Ancient  Ecclesiastical  Hand-bdls  found  in  Ire- 
land, Scotland,  and  Wales,  with  many  other  Miscellaneous 
Articles  connected  with  the  subject,  with  Illustrations  of 
large  Bells ;  Founders'  Stamps  and  Crosses;  the  Bell- 
founder's  Window  at  York,  &&,  Ac  We  are  sony  to  hear 
that  the  book  is  not  publtMhed,  and  that  the  number  of 
co|>ies  is  very  limited.  A  copy  has  been  sent  to  the 
British  Museum,  and  also  to  the  Bodleian  Library. 

The  Arcilsolooical  Institutb  will  pay  a  visit  to 
Guildford  on  Tuesday  next  under  the  Presidentship  of 
Mr.  G.  T.  Clark,  who  will  describe  the  Castle,  and  the 
guidance  of  Mr.  Parker  over  the  Churches  and  Hospital 
pledges  for  an  instmctive  and  agreeable  excnrsion.   • 

St.  Paul's  Cathedral.— The  following  is  the  text 
of  a  resolution  adopted  at  a  recent  meeting  of  the  London 
and  Middlesex  Archaeological  Society,  and  forwarded*to 
the  Dean  and  Chapter  of  St  Paul's :  — 

**  The  London  and  Middlesex  Archnological  Society, 
foelins  concerned  that  the  interior  of  St.  Paul's  Cathedral 
should  be  completed  in  the  manner  in  which  its  architect 
Sir  Christopher  Wren  would  have  completed  it,  calls 
upon  the  Executive  Committee  to  use  every  endeavour 
to  ascertain  his  intentions  with  respect  thereto ;  and,  so 
hi  as  they  can,  to  give  effect  to  them." 


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of  whom  we  borrow,  with  a  few  alterations,  the  following 
memorandum : — 

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manner  as  the  *  Wants '  are  printed,  each  book  occupying 
but  one  line.  3.  No  books  which  have  bean  advertised 
for  in  any  other  publication,  or  recently  in  this,  are  ad- 
missible. 4.  Catalogues  wanted  or  books  bearing  upon 
specific  subjects,  mentioned  generally,  and  not  by  name, 
or  more  books  than  three,  or  books  advertised  for  else- 
where, or  recently  in  <*N.  &  QV  must  be  paid  for  at  the 
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BOOKS   AND    ODD   VOLUMES 

W AJTTBD  TO  PUBOHABX. 

Psrtlealin  of  Prtoa«  kc  of  tht  Ibllowtnc  books  to  teMnt  dlrsetto 
thogentlemMi  bjr  whom  tber  «rt  roqairsd,  whoM  nmuit  sad  iiJiMMi 
are  glTon  ftnr  that  parpoM  •— 
OBmxoD's  CmSHIRB.    s  Volf. 
DIBDUI'S  DTCAMSROH.    3  Vols. 
PiTr'S  8TA7V0ED8HIKS. 

Woatid  bjr  Mr,  Thonuu  Beet,  "BodkmilUrAh,  Gondoit  Btrost, 
Bond  Street,  London.  W. 

MASSiwoaa's  Works,  by  Oiflbrd.  ISU.    Vol.  I. 
Papibs  OS  Naval  ABOHimruKB,  isao.   YoL  m. 
SouTHBT's  AJf  ADis  ow  Qaul.   limo.   ISOS.   Vol.  m.  in  boardi. 

Wanted  bj  Meatn.  Ji.  Sotheran,  Baer^  4r  Co.,  19S«  Strand,  W.C. 


The  Death  Warrant  of  Charles  I.,  Another  Historic 
Doubt:  Bfarriage  of  Lady  Jane  Giey;  Symbolnm  Maria ; 
etnd  oiher  artiele$  oftnterest  in  our  next. 

J.  R.  PuRCELL  (Harlow). — The  prophecy  retpectin^  the 
Crescent,  Crou,  and  Bear,  appeared  m  the  Bristol  Mirror 
in  1854.  It  has  enident  marie  of  modem  fabrication. 
"N.&Q."l'»S.x.  104. 

F.  T.  B.  (Brookthorpe.)— 7^  eona  ** Nottingham  AU** 
i$  printed  with  the  mueic  in  ChappeWe  Popular  Music  of 
the  Olden  Time,  ii.  678.  Contult  also  "  N.  &  Q."  S'^  S. 
ix.  612  ;  X.  16. 

H.  J.  (Aldershot V-7%e  /met  on  •*  Woman's  IFiB  "  have 
been  discussed  in  «N.  &  Q."  !•*  S.  i.  247  ;  iii.  286;  mors 
especially  in  3^*  S.  v.  800.  The  Mount  m  the  Dane-John 
Jneld,  was  formerly  called  the  Dungeon  Field,  Canter^ 
bury. 

J.  Reynolds  (Bristol). — Lord  Coke  was  suspended 
from  the  office  of  chief  justice  in  1616.  Tlu  common  speech 
at  the  time  was  that  four  Ps  had  occasioned'  his  faU—* 
namely.  Pride,  Prohibitions,  Pretmumre,  and  Prerogative, 

F.  M.  S. — Turner's  Annual  Tour  made  three  volumes. 
1.  Wanderings  by  the  Loire,  1888.  2,  8.  Wanderings  by 
^e  iSnne,  1884, 1886.    Edited  by  Leiteh  RUchie, 

J.  W.  H.  (Beckenham.)---31k«  word  cnrsnltf  m  Dug- 
dale's  Warwickshire  is  a  misprint  for  cmsilly  (/V.  sem^ 
de  croix),  that  is,  strewed  or  powdered  over  unth  cross 
crosslets. 

A.  S. — The  term  linhav  tii  Devonshire  is  appHsd  to  a» 
open  shed  attached  to  a  farmyard.  When  attached  to  a 
bam  or  house,  it  is  called  a  hanging-linhay.— Findy 
means  solid,  full,  substantial  s  inthewd  proverb,  **  A  wet 
May  and  a  windy,  makes  a  full  6ant  and  a  findy." 
Perhaps  {says  JamUson)  from  v.  find,  as  signifying  to 
support, 

N. — A  skit,  meaning  a  lampoon,  according  to  Tooke 
(Diversions  of  Pnrley,  ii.  144),  **  is  the  past  participle  of 
scit>an,  and  means  {subaud.  som^hing)  east  or  thrown. 
The  word  is  now  used  for  jeer  or  jibe,  or  covered  imputa- 
tion thrown  or  cast  upon  any  one. 

J.  T.  Presley  (Cheltenham).  —  The  articles  in  Re- 
jected Addiesses,  signed  8.  T.  P.  and  T.  H.,  are  by 
Horace  Smith  ;  that  by  M.  M,  ( Jfomtct  Medlar)  is  £y 
James  Smith. 

CCCXI. — JVo  !  identity  quite  established. 

£KRATUM.~4*b  S.  ix.  p.  621,  col.  i.  line  26  from  bottom. 
The  selection  from  the  letters  of  the  late  Miss  Comwallis 
was  edited  by  a  lady,  M.  C.  P.,  not  by  Rev.  C  P. 

NOTICE. 

We  b^  leave  to  state  that  we  decline  to  return  com- 
munications which,  for  any  reason,  we  do  not  print ;  and 
to  this  rule  we  can  make  no  exception. 

All  communications  should  be  addressed  to  the  Editor 
at  the  Office,  48,  Wellington  Street,  W.C. 


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tad  ite  the  V OMe  ef  LBA  AHD  ranmn  «■  an 


Index  Boppleroent  Co  the  Knt«t  and  Y 
gueriei,  with  Ko.  33»,  Jaly  »7, 1871. ) 


INDEX. 


FOUETH   SEEIES.— VOL.  IX. 


[For  classified  articlci,  see  anonymous  Works.  Books  rbcentlt  pdbushbd,  Epigrams,  Efitapbs,  Folk  Lors, 

rROVSRBI  AND  PHRA8B8,   QUOTATIONS,  SHAKIPSRIANA.  AND  SONOt  AND   BALLADS.] 


A.  on  Iritili  bulb,  26 

Victory  over  the  Dutch,  1 665,  343 

Wild  beasts  for  sale,  26 
Abel  (Charles  Fred.),  musical  composer,  39 
Abernethy  (Bp.  John),  "  Heavenly  Treatise,"  73 
Abhba  ou  an  anonymous  work,  469 
Abrahall  family  arms,  229 
Actors'  taverns  in  London,  380 
Adams  (R.  G.)  on  Saulies:  Gumpheon  men,  140 
Addis  (John)  on  Bailay,  303 

Bonypeil:  Bouuilla,  2S6 

Bured,  521 

Bubbles,  494 

Bug  family.  350 

Chaucer:  **  Del  he  of  BUunche,"  465 

Cherries  and  tiie  Holy  Family,  415 

••  Cry  havock,"  544 

Draught  =  move,  483 

"  Fools  build  houses,"  &c.,  395 

"  Fortune,"  Chaucer  and  Shakspeare,  339 

Gauvy  =  a  gaper,  267 

Hotchpot,  410 

Lines  to  a  Moth,  415 

One- Penny,  a  play,  251 

Play  the  bear,  228 

Siiakspeare,  contemporary  criticism,  282 

Shukspeariana,  462 

Shilly-shally,  285 

Sold,  its  old  meaning,  516 

Three  leaves  eaten  fur  the  enchari^t,  373 

•*  To  tinker,"  375 

Wind  buss,  4*54 
"  Address  to  the  Mummy  "  its  author,  318,  411 
"  Adeate  Fideles,"  or  Portuguese  hymn,  398 
Admiralty,  Black  Book  of  the,  350 
Afzelius  (Arvid  Augustus),  death,  66 
Ainger  (Alfred)  on  the  Erl  King,  187 

Bitter  pill,  504 

Parallel,  533 
Airam  on  Russian  folk  lore,  257 
Aired,  origin  of  the  word,  172,  228,  288,  328,  374 


A.  (J  )  on  an  authentic  document,  542 

Bishop  Ethel  not  h,  &&,  74 
A.  (J.  U.  L.)  on  the  Wiseman  family,  64 
Aladdin  on  the  age  of  ships,  396 

American  centenarianism,  441 

Longevity  of  T.  Fitzgerald,  336 
Aldridge  (Ira),  the  African  Roscios,  423 
Alfred  (King),  version  of  Gregory's  Pastoral  Care,  417 
Allen,  derivation  of  the  name,  389,  454 
Allies  (Jabez),  noticed,  431,  476 
AlUto,  as  an  adverb,  105 
Almanacks,  Yorkshire,  2S 
Alpha  on  Fesch  family,  56 

Black  (Dr.  B.  H.  and  James),  116 
Alsop  (Rev.  George),  circa  1669,  218 
Altenberg,  stained  windows  at,  390 
American  caricatures,  &c.,  37 
American  centenarians,  40,  323,  441 
American  eagle  standard,  238 
American  genealogy,  159 
American  names,  their  pronunciation,  443 
American  state  nick-names,  22 
Amniorgau  passion  play,  bibliography,  421,  452,  519 
Andrews  (Alex.)  on  J.  A.  Atkinson,'  372 

Fleetwood  House,  364 

"  Out  in  the  cold,"  178 
Angels,  the  nine  orders,  24 
;  Anglesey  superstition,  255 
!  Anglo-Scotus  on  William  Baliol,  130 

Anonymous  Works: — 

Abraham,  an  oratorio,  299^ 

Antonio  Foscarini,  299 

Catechisroe  raisonn^,  1 756,  445 

Extracts  from  a  Narrative  of  an  Aaialio  Prince. 

469 
Gradus  ad  Pamassum,  269,  370 
Invalid's  Hymn  Book,  231 
Jephtha,  a  Drama,  299 
Ladies'  Library,  by  a  Lady,  56 
Little  Books  on  Great  Subjects,  418,  521 
Lives  of  iho  Ancient  Philcsophers,  340 
Blaouscripta  transmitted  from  St.  Helena,  211 


AnsDfmau  Work:  :  — 

OiMifai.  or  Xii^rlielb..  I™  J.  M.  I',.i  kn,  48 
(l^u  Vuliva,  ..r  l\«i.:«  ii'iuni  n-ttril  Ojtiui. 
1'an.ilir  of  0<miipI1i«.  4S  j 
l'i.wiibnili*r'=  Sii..p.  >  iJrains,  507 

Ar  riii>n-nc»«r  Klxii.  S3-I 
Hnilenn.     Kroner,  1;W-1T93,  301 
fOinrl-Uiinil  IH.i.o.u'j,  .fJM 
l>!<;:clin  iif  V<i  .ii<:  ilMjlli'iiirii.  33 
bl»lrb«t  or  V'lun;;  l.t/lit»,  U3 
Stimn  i^pirit  i.f  Suiari.  lira 
TiiLlBT>lktr.ni<>,  4ia 
Triu:lipL  iif  isM.,  sn  cv itnrHi, 3!>9 
IVhypliaitlsur.v.  J  I,.!,,  US.  au6,  S87 

AnoiTiiMaii  Wnrlis  IH.ri.jui^r  nf,  uTl,  403 

Aii-:roilirr(Sr  W..1.)  Ii' 


> «( ii«  I 


HHytiMe,,aia 


53.'. 


Aphorin  mid  oiii|.!.il»;^i  fxpLi'n«(,  292 
Ap.abq  >Mn«r  en.  Sul'<i>.  U 
"  AnbrlliV  <i!io-r,-  .  lorin.  361 
Arch.rot<t:v,  jrel-i  ii'ric,  5i!4 
Arditr;  Htttui  innkbnrT,  44. 373 

AnIi.lrcLiin-,  lultn,  414,  477,  n41 
Arinlii,  «riv  i-riiiii.n  •^"OrLin.lo  Kuriusn,' 

Arlsliiplinnc*.  Will,  ltielur.1  lUmiKoi/,  tmi _ 

Annunal  tMiiiinj;^,  nrir,  a7l>,  35G;  lu  liicnJa  D 

lalcd,  4f  C 
AriRR,  6.c;ii>naiT  flf  Cnsts  nf,  105 
ArubU  funiily  ul  Ll^hlili^n^-Fl  C<,urt.  l.gruil.plur 
Amoll  (S,)  un  Vh-  tm«l  lina^,  SDfi 
Ari,ul*  =  «r:li  r.ut,  S34 
Arniw-iniili  ^Kuth-T).  Iii,  Inn.l,  436,  4  ja,  455 
A,  (l;.  .S,)  nil  Vrrriii  Hip  i«in'cT,  285 

A.  (S.)  ..!>  It]!.  11.41         - 


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.Ifurli, : 


A-lxnl 

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at  S7 

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2-.'7 

A»liorM 

Lurih,  w 

l» 

.1-,'it.  ' 

•'lit, 

A^htlHI- 

:Hl-rl.Tii 

(.'t.l 

I'll  Ixll 

.11 

AtkinMi 

(JJiuA 

jJ-LM 

0.™r 

1.1,9 

492 

A;ki..-un 

CJ,C.)o 

Bi 

nU's'.  * 

12 

I,i.np-vi!r.  21 

A9.  *10,  «69,  448 

lUlfiniT  (^lis->,DUll.nrBui.!»9,S94 

B.!|.il  (.Sir  Williiii,).  ir,  I3U 

It'll  funiil*,  as.  495 

lliiljia  unit  wmi;  drljiird,  468 

Ball.>l  ■!  KuiLr,  74 

lialiu  an.)  II,4^,c(,  !K>3 

Buikni  (Albeit)  on  trmm\tt  witli  wlgt,  36 

Bjtujmn-dHjr.nriuiii  nf  ijw  imn,  359 

BiiprumfuriU    Mil,  413 

ItiiriiciDiil  luine  iIhij-j^J,  |9,  liXl,  109,  207j  cnijou. 

31,  372 
Barber  (Fairfcn.)  on  Gaifm  Hij;;-iii,'.  n.«|nit,  518 
audulf  (Wm.)  tinnt  of  Hfi4i:.;i,  218 
Dareeii,  LMiHun  titr,  199,  351 
fiargue.,.!,  ■  Yu.k.liire  pn*rueiHii.Tn,  379.  950,  418 
Birker  ma  Bur/.Til',  |«,iir>ii,u.  435.  SS3 
ILuklfJ(C.  a.}«lr.,iiiiiHuw»ni,f  Xorfuik  149 
BuUj,  tl,ilJ«n'.  pl«T  33*,  3<W,  3S5 
Barniler  calluJ  llliick  ur  lllnk,  iS,  128 
BunnlsiD  Hlv/KtlCf,  "fil,  .109 
Bar-Psa.tfHi  N«p.ilnin>t  Clbii.  56 
Biml  (J.)  iHi  nn  riniiinii>l  ■JTnti.eiMnta.  .35^ 
B«iroMii.  (KHleriB-),  piciure.  '■  11*  KiilMLbiiirat,"  7J 
]).rrj  (K.  U.)  on  Iji.  k.lllt  of  Ev»l,«tn,  343 
B»rr7(SprMi(:«r).p*inu.  If  9,  309 

"  Biiilinds,  or  Oiie  I'tniiy,''  h  |,l«y.  201,  251,  306 
BiKmon  CrbHiiu),  JI,1>.,  lulli-.r  of  bit  lAtr,  1 59    227 
Bala  (Win.)  on  J.  Aueiuiiu.  Aitiiaan,  49* 

"  BlfroiB,  riulo(."Ar.,  IS 

C«Henari.n»7n,  S33 

li  CMi»).  biojrajJiT,  198 


Fruiklk'. 


Ii>ph,4]l> 


tmH,  243 


l,(.-yrJ.J;n),o.,lkv, 

r.'r.)'".*.  1-C""" 


rf  i.«.1 


:L-lilun,  279 
n.  ^11.  r>  ^.)  -111  ji^iniliP  ili.g  4l.'i 

Aj^iiCKiil*  l^ir\ui)L.l].i'u,],,  33i 

Ayigun  (Sir  1[..!*.I).  |K>«:ical  iiritiuj;-,  riS9,  ,S16 
B 

Bick.>cr>!clirr^.  312 

B.c^«i  (Liml),  iiiini.i..-l.m  nf  Sli,,k>p  „r».  93 
Bi.U.I.-y  (Win.).  r«c:«r  m  Hu.fidd.  a.iS 
Bidi'r  (J.iLd  F».iiiii.D.I}.  jriiiriit,  441 
K  (A.  F.)  oil  CMiiip,li^l,  44 
BK*ncl  (Mjrelisl  llviiii),  portnit.  i<H 
B^iVu  (Uiii  Oriwlc),  "  Miiiiirirs."  S4   167 
Bileli  (T.)  OD  Un'iienHla  faiuilT,  96 


O-Uoheilj'smsiim-,  182 
I'lonloitiki,  UiiimiLtrii',  ii.ll<Frrn),  147 
rfiipli*dr«Tfl^metoJ.:nidiinil,  174 
llojiiolj,  (Sir  J. Jiua).  ■•  InfKiii  Iletculw,-  533 


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Baltic  .1  1 
'  Ballir  of 
lauiikin  cb.tli 
i.CC.)nnmi'..l.iB«l  1^1,179 
1.  (C.  H)mii«i>i™nllj(iJ.if:liWiijT™ii,  )80 
B.(C,  'l-joii    .sdfiiv<fi«iiuf,Sp.JE(h,  470 
'A  wmer,"  ■■  l.grtd,'  483 
f  (\i'r.  U'.y  184 


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33 


l)«n<  ^f  th«  .Sintk  KiL-hiin;^',  218      . 
BcjiutT,  W::«  OB  llio  p7ebon,li„n  of,  427.  MS 
■■»l.{J.)unlh.»m.ll«l,ncmr.337 

"  Utos  of  t!.e  Ancipni  I'lLiUoophwi,"  340 

iltux  quoUliniui,  94 

Kipnlpm  nt  Ei;.a,  20a 

Kurdiilii'  fttKtn,  220,  491 


Tndcz  Supplement  to  the  NotM  and  > 
QuerlCB,  with  No.  230,  July  27, 1672. / 


INDEX. 


549 


Beale  (J.)  on  Shakj^peariami,  123 

"  To  tinker,"  320 
Beile  (Cuthbert)  on  "Address  to  the  Mammy,"  411 

Blore'tf  *'  History  of  RutUnd>liire,"  393 

Cherrie:}  and  the  Holy  FMUiily,  117,375 

Christinas  decnratioDs  and  the  upper  roum,  36 

Coincidence.  411 

Comic  peiiodiials,  529 

Kin;;  of  bniokers,  524 

**Like  the  W>il-nil  manV  poofe,"  35 

"  Lotksley  Hall  "  pin^lied,  518 

Oxford  canoe»,  76 

Play  the  U-ar.  1 78 

IMouph'daj  isermon  and  dinner,  174 

Punning;  mottoes,  197 

Butland  weatlifr  savin;;.  158 

Sancte-bell  and  cct,  209 

Seven  Dials,  145 

Sniitli  (Albert)  a-d  his  literary  ^ains,  277 

Tennyson's  *•  De^rh  of  the  Old  Year,"  92 

»•  To  tinker,"  375 

Weather  lore,  401 
Rtrde  (the  Veneral>lf),  Works,  193.  529 
Bedell  (Bi^hop  Willia  i.),  his  life,  27,  376 
Bedford  HeaB,  Maiden  Lane,  Covent  Garden,  381 
Bedo  (George)  on  Faversham  church,  435 

Fuzen  eels.  36 
Beer  jug  inscriptions,  20,  170,  250,  433 
Belfries  blackened,  299,  372 

Bel}:ian  Academy,  anniTersary  of  its  foandatloD,  456 
Bell  candleatick,  279 

Be!ls,  royal  heads  on,  38,  76,  250.  309:  inscriptions, 
53,  184,  278,  299,  316,  373,  428,  466;  the  oldest 
dated,  216;   saccte-bell  and  cot,  269;  at  Chunh- 
Kirk,  near  Blackburn,  406 
Beinrose  (W.)  jun.  on  J.  Holworthy,  86 
Benedict  (John),  Latin  Bible,  132 
Bennett  (George),  M.I).,  on  the  Sheen  priory,  536 
Berkeley,  or  Barkl«ry,  MS*  p'tems,  137 
Berkeley  (Bp.  George),  prejudices  about  gold,  186;  his 

supposed  giant,  359 
Bemher  (Augustine),  rector  of  Stepney,  death,  484 
Besbeech  (Nathaniel),  his  tomb,  435 
Bessun  (James),  French  mechanician,  406 
Bewmakan  convent,  360.  432,  519 
B.  (F.  T.)  on  tlie  word  "  physician,"  278 
B.  (G.  A.)  on  "  Othello,'  act  iii.  sc.  4,  389 
B.  (H.  H.)  on  Iiish  families  414 
Bibb  (Half-crown),  noticed,  380 
Bible  in  double  pica,  118;  edit.  1G91,  137;  Vinegar, 
172;  ediiions  of  the  Authorihed  Ve^^ion,  1611-1711, 
191;  edit.  1590,  218;  edit.  17  70- 17  72,  299;  Bible 
in  Sculpture,  340,456;  Latin,  1492,  388 
Bibliothecar.  Chetham.  on  Britannicus,  288 

Eggs  as  an  article  of  food,  125 

General  Liseraiy  Index,  193,  529 

Star  and  crescent,  349 

White  bird  featherle-s,  125 
''  Biblioth^ne  universelle  et  Ivevae  suisse,"  386 
Bi(  kerstaff  (baac),  "  Lionel  aud  Clariasa,'*  204 
Bilbo  on  match  tax  bill,  535 

Piershill  barracks,  Edinlurgh,  456 

Scores  »« lanes  or  alleys.  225 

Stell,  a  provincialisui,  495 

Stereoscopy,  46 
Bill,  a  caricus  one  for  rtpairiog  cburch  orDamenta,  443 


Billyngs  (Wm.),  lines  by,  67 
Bingham  (C.  W.)  on  Marc«)  Polo,  482 

Brashals  bs  bracelets,  515 

Buckden:  ChekV,  516 
Binns  (R.  W.)  on  Burns  and  Camphvll,  317 
Bird   (Thomas),   treatite  on  "Nubiiicie,  Knighthood,** 

&c.,  55 
Births,  extraordinary,  53.  127.  165,  204 
B.  (J.  A.)  on  Stemhold  un«l  Hopkins,  59 
B.  (J.  J.)  on  Britton  families,  299 
B.  (J.  R.)  on  legal  interpretation.  239 

Victoria  (Queen)  at  Temple  Bar.  240 

Washington  and  Kent  latnilies,  248 
Black  Eagle,  Order  of  the,  1 1 1 
BUcktJack  tavern,  380 
"  Black  John,"  a  carioitnre,  407.  4^1 
BU&ck  (Jame.s).  lecturer,  58,  1 16.  225 
Black  (Richard  Harrison),  author,  58,  1 16,  225 
Black  (Theresa),  the  Maid  of  Athens,  386 
BUck  (Wm.  Henry),  death,  331 
Blackburn  (C.  F.)  on  the  plant  Basil,  408 

Print* d  matter  copied,  127 
Blickburne  (Abp.  Lancelot),  descendants,    180,  826, 

289.  396 
Blair  (D.)  on  Bnpti.nm  for  the  dead,  412 

Battle  at  the  Birch  tree,  397 

Centenarian:^m  in  Naples,  338 

Chcnier  (Andi<^),  lines  by.  411 

Goldmining  in  France,  533 

Iriiih  street  balla<is,  485 

*■  Make  a  bridge  of  gtdd  frr  a  flying  enemy,"  397 

Prior  (Matthew),  was  he  in  orders  ?  470 

Tennyson iana,  467 
Blenkinsopp  (E.  L.)  on  change  of  bsptismal  names,  807 

"  As  true  as  a  die,"  449 

Nine  orders  of  angels,  24 

Ship,  "  Betsy  Cain,"  325 
Blenheim  palace,  500 
Bllgh  (Admiial  William),  a  print,  534 
Bloody  wmII,  or  wairiorss  wall  flower.  375.  435 
BloWs  •*  History  of  ihe  county  of  Rutland,"  393 
Blowrrs  (S.  S.),  a  cenien.iiian,  223 
Blue  bloid,  or  good  birth,  218 
Blue  speedwell,  a  flmer,  G2 
Blue-vinid  cheese,  101,  248 
B.  (M.  K.)  on  a  midnight  hymn,  207 
B«»adicea  (Qneen),  noticed,  199 
"  Boar  Hunt,"  or  "  The  Death  of  Adonin."  319 
Biard,  as  used  by  George  Herbert,  93,  149,  209,  251 
Boase  (G.  C.)  on  Chailes  Sandoe  Gilbert,  75 

Inch  (Henry),  75 
Bacvcy  (Mrs.  Catheiine).     Sec  Borey. 
Boleyn  (Queen  Anne).  sup)io»ed  binh'place,   12;  her 

mother,  93;  Book  of  Devotions,  137,  309 
Bonailla,  a  Scotch  word,  217 

Bonaparte  (Napoleon)  on  board  the  Northumberland,  1, 
29,  50, 123,  147r541 ;  conespondence,  15;  at  Elba, 
56,  208;  dictum,  74;  wal;iut  portrait  of  him,  359; 
at  Waterloo,  4G9,  538 
"  Bondiica,"  a  tr.gedy,  by  H.  Purcell,  261 
Bone  (J.  W.)  on  derivations  of  names  of  countries,  210 

Uorneck  and  Je:(samy,  94 
Bonnet,  its  history,  -15;  decorated  with  bows,  37 
Bonny  clabber  =s  milk  mud,  296 
BoDspeil,  a  Scotch  word,  217,  286 
Book,  bow  to  describe  one,  8,  57,  122,  279 


l^-'v.n  riUiin;  to  Wnlca  and  It.,r.1pr  Cur 

km*  (KdtJ),  Lif«  bf  Kiirk]':i»,  130;  S>iica. 
CA^dM  it  SlalP  PapF»  :  'FLir.'ii:n  Serii'i  gl 

MfCBoT  Kliiiliclh,  ISGG-8,36U 
Onlln    Socittj;    Lottery    ind    r^prm   at  . 

SbSUnjfird,  65;  Chrqoe  fiook  v(  iho  Cbipcl 

BqHd.  Vl;  L<r«  or  Uuhop  Bnldl.  376 
AHJng'j  AdminuInlioD,  bj  Gen.  Wll^iin.  U 
ntmkVt  CollMtion  of  Epit*pb!i  in  Jli.i.lIrHX, 
CMU»'a  Itoand  tha  World  id  1870,  47 
bifnHr'j  WilBT  tiot  Cnarn,  47 
ilWihtin  rf  thi  Library  at  L«ii;li  F«,  397 
OaWifa,  1m  Banlti  d«  U  Pociie  An:t:.i.f, 
Chaillw  Kid  tlcmoriili  of  Gmt  Britain 

Irdwl:    l<««r   oF  Ucndm'ii  Ciimi.irle; 

HMk    Book   oF  Uio  Adminltji   CiileiKiir   uf 

bnw  BhanicripU,  330 
t^^tlogj  at  HMorj.  Art,  Lilenlure,  &c,  1 
»Mli\  Batot?  of  Polprrro,  190 
aa(Ckrr.>hitBiJladaand  Book,  S  7 
fcMf%  cidoDial  CouUtatuaM  irf  ili*  Brltinnic 

B>rir*,  «7T 
Cham"*  Bktorr  of  BtRfordsfaira,  534 
IfclnH^i    rung*   ud  BvoMttga,    106j    Illui- 

iMtnl  Bmmo  at  ComTnoBf ,  Itl 
lka»%  Ancioiit  Clutici  for  Enj(]iita  Rrider*,  3?C 

UMMlat  Hktorj  in  Hunii  of  Plac»,  ASS 
b(*lbMdi*  of  Cbroaolog]',  bj  Wuodnanl  ud 

Wkttflt/i  Hiiloi7  of  Andant  Uuiaacripts,  5S5! 
••^•'{S.  B.),  LiTu  of  Iho  SdDU,  S 1 0 
^MU%  OtUogM  of  UuU  so  Cbina  *na  Pot- 

tt]A|tA  HJMlrj  of  HuTogtto  ind  Knansborougb 

Cl^^  (GMMQ),  Foot  LtetllTB  <n  Rl   P...1'-    '■>' 


Tndez  Supplement  to  the  Votes  tad  \ 
Querlei,  wltli  No.  238,  July  27, 1872.  / 


INDEX. 


SoiM  reoently  pnbliihed : — 

Timbs'fl  Curiosities  of  Animal  and  Vegetable  Life, 

478 
Timbs's  Year-Book  of  Facts,  270  • 

Walcott's  Traditions  of  Cathedrals,  211 
Warden's  Boifrh  Laws  of  Dundee,  397 
Wedgwood's  Dictionary  of  English  Etymology,  105, 

330 
Westropp's  Prelii:itoric  Places,  524 
White's  Sabstantive  Seniority  Army  List,  48 
Woodward's  Kataral  History  of  the  Year,  291 
Yarker's  Notes  on  the  Mysteries  of  Antiquity,  331 
Yetts  o'  Mockart,  398 
Yorkshire  Almanackf,  27 

Booth  memorial  formerly  in  Breintoo  church,  277 

Booth  (Richard),  family,  137 

Bcqueki  (Lord),  origin  of  the  name,  74,  169,  247,  306 

Bosanqnet  (Jacob),  merchant,  family,  55 

Botivennon  family  of  Cornwall,  219 

Boswell  (Sir  Alex.),  duel  with  James  Stuart,  jun.,  357 

Boswell  (James),  noticed,  42,  43,  102 

Botany,  Himalayan,  443 

Bouchier  (Jonathan)  on  claws  of  shell-fish,  57 
Boswell  (James  ,  102 
Lines  from  Shelley,  63 

Wellington  (Duke  of)  and  the  Biahop  of  London, 
101 

Bonrke  family,  219 

Bourke  (W.  M.)  on  De  Burgh  and  Bourke  familie.%  219 

Boutell  (C.)  on  grotesque  sculptures,  389 
Miserere  carvings,  405 

Bovey  (Mrs.  Catherine)  and  the  meetings  of  the  Three 
Choirs,  136 

Bow  bearers,  26 

Bower  (U.)  on  Edward  Gardner,  262 

Bowie-kiiife,  origin  of  the  name,  478 

Bows  in  bonnets,  37,  184,  247    « 
'  Boyle  (E.  M.)  on  Lord  Drumlanrig,  506 
Long  Hyde's  marriage,  426 

Boyle's  **  Court  Guide,"  first  i:»sue,  292,  305 

B.  (P.  H.)  on  Marshal  Bagenal,  484 

Branched  damask,  37 

Brashals  =  bracelets,  515 

Brayded:  braydes,  its  meaning,  146 

Brecon  (the  Lords  of),  445,  515 

Brederode  family,  96 

B.  (R.  H.  A.)  ou  "  Not  lost,  but  gone  before,"  103 

Bribery  and  kissing,  1 59 

Briddeburg  barony,  214 

Bridges,  prayer  for  the  builders  of,  258,  SOS 

Bridport  dagger,  175 

Bri6t,  a  sort  of  dish,  19 

Briscoe  (J.  P.)  on  Mantlie  dog,  415 
Rizzi  and  Pelli,  350 

British  Museum,  class  catalogue  of  manuscripts,  28 

Brito  on  Ober-Ainmergau  Passion  Play,  421 

Britten  (James)  on  Cherries  and  the  Holy  Family,  210 
**  Cast  for  death  "  on  coins,  22 
Devil's  nutting-day,  267 
Findeme  flowers,  149,  270 
Novelists'  flowers,  226 
Sola  or  sohh,  270 
Ulva  latissima,  182 

Britton,  Bretton,  &c,  fiimiliet,  299,  391 

Bronze  head  found  in  Bath,  464,  543 


Brook  Green  volunteer,  199 
Brook  (R)  on  a  Latin  Bible,  1492,  38t 
Brookes  (Joshua),  noticed,  83,  328 
Brooks  (Shirley),  elected, an  F.S.A.,  66 
Brooks  (Shirley)  on  epitaph  on  Bliss  Warl,  tIS 
Brougham  (Lord),  letters  to  Wm.  Fonjik,  CS^ 
literature,  69,  85,   111,  145;  anecdotes,  &fi, 
maternal  ancestors,  318,  412;  on  the  <M 
Stuart  and  Boswell,  357;  Works,  456,  9£5; 
-  on  Campbell's  *'  Lives  of  the  ChancellocV 
Broughton  (Hugh),  manuscripts,  271 
Brown  (J.  H.)  on  derivation  of  commw  «■& 

230 
Brown  (Thomas),  "  The  Paradise  of  Cof  tictletr 
Browne  (C.  E.)  on  American  queries,  37 
**  Les  prStres  deport  cfs"  146 
Societies  for  the  Reformation  of 
Society  of  Ancient  Deists,  181 
Browning  (Ernst)  on  divorced  women,  526 
Bruce  (Robert),  charter,  A.o.  1320,  214 
Brush,  a  symbol  of  peace,  429 
Bryan  (Rev.  John),  D.D.,  noticed,  63 
Bryan  (Sir  Francis),  traduced,  302 
B.  (T.)  on  Englisli's  Chelsea  College,  426 
Jucelyn  (Sir  Conyers),  426 
Scores,  a  k)cal  name,  161 
Bubble,  a  term  of  the  Stock  Excha6f:e,  33f , 
Buchanan  (T.  0.)  on  Oliphant  barony,  ^S 
Buckden:  Chek'r,  350,  516 
Bug  family,  279,  350 
Building  law  of  the  Greciann,  484 
Bulbaceous,  a  botanical  term,  80 
Rulleyn  (Wm.),  **  Booke  of  Simples^'  ^ota£. 
Bulls,  Papal,  handy  listt,  428 
Bunker's  Hill  battle,  Trumbull's  picture, 
Bunsen  (Baron),  was  he  a  D.D.?  55,  147 
Bunyan  (John),  first  edition  of  ^'  Pilgriiirs 
Burgh  (Hubert  J.  de)  on  Hubert  de  Burg4,-<tl 

Letter  uf  Frederick  the  Great,  91 
Burial  in  woollen,  the  Act  repealed,  21fi,  2St 
Burial  usages  in  Scotland,  276 
Burials  in  gardens,  98,  284.  348;  c«Nt<ims,  413u 
Burke  (Edmund),  portrait  of  a  ladv  pKuldd  Car 

361 
Burke  (Wm.),  a  claimant  of  Juniod's  Lelteni  ?l 
Burl«ry  family.  464,  512 
Burning  invalids,  426 

Burns  (Ri)l>ert).  passsfres  quoted,  79,  1<r4,  C9il« 

329,  475,  523;   "'Prentice   han',"  St,  l>%, 

copy  of  Shakspeare  and  Blind  Harry'!s 

236,  371,  392;  original  pieces,  317 

Burton  (Richard),  longevity,  109 

Butler  (C.  A.)  on  wooden  nutmegs,  ISf 

Buttery  (Albert)  on  Holyrood  pictures,  ITS 

Buttons,  death's  head,  64,  145 

Butts  (Dr.  Robert),  Bishop  of  Ely,  37 

B.  (w.)  on  Aired,  374 

B.  (W.)  on  the  doctrine  of  Celticism,  97 

Echeles,  326 

Harrowgate,  its  etymology,  121,  aoi 
"  Mary  is  sonne,"  220 
B.  (W.  C.)  on  Anonymous  works,  5)4 
Burkef  and  Burford's  panoramas.  411 
Enigmatical  puzzle,  62 
Heron  or  Heme,  395 
Mason  the  poet,  birtbphice,  277 


552 


INDEX. 


r  Index  Rnpiilemffit  tn  the  5'otci  miA 
\  giicrte*.  wlUi  So.  S3P,  Jnljr  37,  I8T3. 


Byer'.ey  (Thomas),  oluis  K«»u>en  iVrcy,  457 
Uyron'(G«>r«;e  G-.riion.  OjIi  L  )rJ),  K.irl  Klze's  Life  of 

liiin,    130:    iuib«iuotea  Iloiacc,   159;   his  "Mnid  of 

Alheiih,"  386 

C 

C.  on  Hum:*'.-*  '•  'IVemice  Han'."  170 

"  Cx.sar's  C«»iPintMit!irir.>.,"  Kn;;li>li  :raRs!ati<'n«.  457 

CapotP,  their  liis!ory,  129 

Canib-poncil  or  il- ^-ji<Miril,  45 

Cnnibriil);e  ju^tic•e^,  4'2G 

Cirmlen    Sttielv,    uew   \\i>«.ks,  311;    annual    meeting, 

398 
Csunova  (Marpiret  ilr).  soM  by  lier  husliand,  172 
CHiiiplell  (Sir  Colin)  not  at  li:k«:rinai.n,  391,  413,  491 
Cuni)>&hcail,  ith  deiivati  mi,  44 
Canada,  conquest  of.  180,  210 
Crtn'.iciJ  at  Oxford,  76 
Caraccinla  (Hubert),  Bifh"|>  of  Lccre,  6 
Caraf.i  family,  original  j>jiptT.-  of  the,  478 
Carew  family  ()f  lleddin^lon,  iH»diprc<*.  351 
Carew  MSS.  at  Lambeth,  Calendar  of,  350 
Carey  (Henry),  musician,  jmm trait,  106 
Caricature:  "  A  Candidate,"  by  H.  B..  74 
"  Carl  the  Martyr,"  a  }VH«m,  426,  517 
Carlisle  (James  Hay,  Karl  of),  funeral,  117 
Carlton  (C.  M.)  on  (uro  f«ir  t<hitli;i(lu',  257 
Cari»lii:o  (Queen),  l!«»r  funeral,  44.  78 
"  CarjKitldan  wizard'.s  hiK)l{,"=  rmtcus,  37 
Carrum  =  Charniouth.  (•«>.  I).^^^et,  332 
**  Cast  fcr  death  "  on  n.ins,  22 
Cuter- cousins,  331,  390,  456,  517 
Catsup  or  ketchup,  ori^'in  of  the  name,  279 
Cattciick  church  font,  533 
Caudine  Foika,  Komun  ndle>tone  in  the,  254 
Cuulfeiid  (Jane),  her  mother,  262 
C.  (B.)  on  Iii.-^h  sonps,  345 
Cccxi  on  '•  A  m;in  of  stiaw,"  405 

Taperell  «=  thin,  small,  495 
C.  (C.  E.  E.)  on  Qnecn  Hi-nrietta  Maiia.  407 
C.  (C.  L.  W.)  nn  INyntz  family,  38,  150 
C.  (C.  i:.)  on  Kin^VOup,  49  4 
C.  (E.)  on  Br-ars  and  bulls,  22i?,  339 

Canada.  180 
C.  (E.  F.  D.)  on  B.K)th  family.  137 

*'  As  straight  as  a  di.-,*   520 

Tudor  II  •u^e  at  Wimbledon,  181 
Celtic  rer.  Keltic.  277,  348 
Celticism,  the  di^trine  of,  97 
Centenaiianism.     See  Lvnfjf!vity. 
Centones,  or  jia'thwork  451 
CcTT.an:es  an<i  his  trauslitors,  44 
C.  (E.  S.)  on  the  ball  of  cotton,  371 

Cater-coubins,  517 
C.  (F.)  on  "Old  Bags,"  291 
C.  (F.  W.)  t.n  Ceivantcs  and  his  translators,  44 
C.  (G.  A.)  on  lly- leaf  scribbling',  38S 
C.  (Geo.)  on  illuminating,  185 
C.  (G.  H.)  on  Puritan  changes  of  names,  287 

Thanksgiving:  services,  202 
C.  (G.  M.  E.)  on  Folk  lore:  mice,  402. 

Napoleon  on  board  the  X'rthuniberUnd,  541 

Ninon  de  TEnrloH  and  Diane  de  Poictien,  543 

Troy  weight,  447 
C.  (G.  P.)  on  heraldic  query,  180 

Song:  "Lord  Randal,"'  170 


Chaniberlayne  (John),  "  Present  State  of  Grvmt  BrUuD/' 

280 
Chai:ce  (Dr.  F.)  on  Aired,  288 

Aubtrian  women  wearing  wigs,  183 

Children's  language,  90 

Milton's  use  of  the  superlative,  222 

Prayer  of  PiuM  IX.  f«>r  France.  301 

Sufjerbtition  in  the  German  army,  10 
Chancellor  (Lord),  state  coach,  219 
Chanfieable  silk  and  tafletAii,  37,  86 
**  Chanson  de  Roland,"  233 
'*  Chanticleer,**  a  ship,  261,  325 
Chapel  Royal  chftpie-boi'k,  171 
Chapely,  domestic,  list  of  mediaeval,  180 
Chuppell  (\Vm.)  on  a  song,  *'  Fye,  gae  rob  her,"  283 
'  Charles  I.,  three  letters  on  his  marriage,  6;  waiatcoa% 
13;  Twelve  Golden  Rule5,  48 
Charock  (R.  S.)  on  Baldursbra,  210 

Chowbent,  85 

Diabetes  mcllitus,  26 

Divorce  and  the  marriage  name,  251.  373 

Dovercourt,  25 

Garret  and  Gerald,  25 

Haro,  209 

Knarr:  Wryde,  145 

M)fanwy,  489 

Pounder:  Allen,  454 

lUnz-deA-Vaches,  2S9 

Senlac,  306 

Tichbome,  origin  of  the  name,  205 

Tipterers,  85 

Turnister,  its  derivation,  229 
Chatham  (\Vm.  Pitl,  l«t  Earl  ot),  '*  Sugar, Mr.  Speaker,** 

161,  189,247 
Chutterton  (Thomas).  Dili's  Life,  294,  365.  429 
Chattock  (C.)  en  American  gcneal'>gv,  159,  484 

'<  As  straight  as  a  die,"  185,  34.5 

Bibles,  299 

Brit  ton  family,  391 

Croinwellian  era,  13 

llarrowpate,  its  e:ymolojty,  203,  409 

Hawk  and  handsaw,  514 

Heraldic,  280 

Horneck  and  JessAmy,  149 

Hotch-pot,  160,  374 

Mauther.  a  provincialism,  348 

Royalist  tokens,  240 

"  Saresons  grounde,**  95 

Scales  and  weights,  83 

Seaht,  old,  341 

Stockton,  a  family  name,  543 
Chattok  family  seals,  341 
Chattuck  fa:ii!y  genealogy,  159 

Chnucor  (Geoffrey)  family.  381,  436,  469,  493;  re- 
stored  works,  32,  70,  109,  155;  tomb  in  Westmio- 
ster  Abl^y,  132;  Pardoner*s  Prologue,  177;  iiit 
knowledi^e  of  Italian,  200.  886;  Liwd  Delaincn*^ 
MS.  of  *^The  Canterbury  Tales,"  353;  and  Daote*a 
"  Paradii-Q.**  480 
Chancer  (Thomas),  not  the  poet'«  100,  381,  436,  468, 

493 
C.  (H.  B.)  on  a  passage  in  Clmterfield,  303 
C.  (H.  D.)  on  a  worn  joke,  373 

Battle  of  Bnnker*«  Hill,  406 
Chelsea  College,  Inglish's  description,  4S6 
Cb^nier  (Andrtf),  lines  preriona  to  bii  tseetttisBi  411 


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INDEX. 


553 


Ckerri«8  nnd  the  Holy  Family,  117,  210,  375,  415 
Cherrj  (J.  L.)  on  Clare's  Remains,  93 
Cbe&ter  (Col.  J.  L.)  on  President  Waalilngton'a  an- 
cestry, 325 
Chester,  St.  Peter's  churcli,  its  barons  spiritnal,  300,  412 
Chesterfield  (Lord)  on  f;ood  breeding.  303.  520 
Chief  Ermine  on  "  The  curfew  tolls,"  5tc.,  511 
Child,  fate  of  tho  onbaptised,  24 
"  Childe  ilarold,'  a  parody  on,  531 
Chil'dren,  four  nt  birth,  53,  127.  165,  204 
Children,  linguistic,  118,  187 
Children's  languaj^c,  90 
Ciiinese  monumental  inscriptions,  72 
Chinese  vegetable.^,  300 
Chitteldroog  on  Public  teachers,  42,  62 

R«>che  (Sir  Boyle),  325 
C.  (U49AI.)  on  LtiWther  tablet,  485 
Choirs,  Dieetin^rs  of  the  three,  136,  166,  206 
Chowbent,  its  derivation,  13,  85 
Christ  (Jesus),  his  supposed  letter,  386,  476,  542 
ChristeninG:  bit  in  Cornwall,  47,  129 
Christie  (R.  C.)  on  Founnonl's  literary  forgeries,  368 
Christian  (Jane),  a  Blanx  Eve,  129 
Christian  names,  curious,  27 
Christian  names  now  obsolete,  423,  510 
Christmas  decorations  and  the  upper  room,  36 
Christmas  finger  cakes,  1 75 
Christmas  magistrate  in  the  academical  eatamulia,  126, 

170 
Chrysostom  (Su),  "  Life  and  Times/'  150 
Church  family  of  Ireland,  468 
Church-doors,  notices  afHxed  to,  1S9 
Church  towers,   round,  in  Norfolk  and  Suffolk,  136, 

186,249,327,391,455 
Circulating  libraries,  earliest,  442 
C.  (J.  H.)  on  Fourmont's  literary  forgeries,  415 

lUdclifftf  (Francis),  507 
C.  (J.  L.)  on  a  recent  **  History  of  Richmond,"  298 
Clare  (J.)  on  "  Carl  the  Martyr,"  426 
Clare  (John),  Poetical  Remains,  93.  170 
Clurke  (H.  S.)  on  a  Bible  of  1590.  218 
Claike  (Hyde)  on  liquids,  328,  476 
Clarry  on  odd  changes  of  meaning,  84 

Roman  numerals,  320 

Suicide,  452 
"  Cleopatra  and  Octavia,"  a  dialogue.  Rl 
Clergy,  maintenance  in  limes  past,  258 
Clerical  longevity,  249 
Clerk  family  of  Pennycuick,  51 
Cierke  (Sir  Wm.),  chaplain  of  Banff.  51 
Clifton  (J.  H.)  on  Wm.  Clifton  of  Houghton,  262 
Clifton  (Wm.)  of  Houghton,  co.  York,  ancestry,  262 
Cloker  (Henry),  his  bequest,  72 
Clyoe  (Norral)  on  Burus  and  Keble,  158 

Deesitle,  81 

Judicial  honour:  Lord  An.stmther,  338 

Moore  and  Bulwer-Lytton,  237 

Scotch  money,  115 
C.  (M.  F.)  on  City  state  barges,  199 
C.  (0.)  on  Sir  Colin  Campbell,  413     • 

Portrait  of  a  lady  painted  for  Burke,  361 

Speaker's  coach,  221 
Coates  (T.)  on  <*  Secret  Societies  of  the  Middle  Age^,** 

489 
Coclirane  (J.)  on  Faed's  picture  of  Sir  Walter  Scott, 
405 


Cock  Lane  Ghost  story,  496 
Cockroaches,  426,  490 
Coffin  of  a  captive  in  prospect,  262,  310 
Cofiins,  ancient,  534 
Coinage,  pnwf  and  pattern,  389 

Coins:  the  "  voce  populi "'  Imlfpence,  76;  with  blunders, 
95;  of  the  LAtin  princes  of  Autioch,  219  ^  i*oriu- 
gucM,  227;  William  III.'s  guinea,  343 
Coke  (Lord),  his  suspension,  545 
Coke»by,  Cooksey  families,  60,  146 
Cole  (J.  E.)  on  Sir  Randolph  K«lwin.  238 
Coleman  (E.  H.)  on  a  lingular  ch:*riiy,  505 
Coleridge  (S.  T.).  letter  to  Mrs.  Gillman,  358 
Collar  of  Esses,  527 

Collett  (E'lward)  on  "  Time  immemorial,"  188 
Cidiide,  an  Americanism,  4a3 
Colli^hill  (Laird  of),  his  surname.  360,  524 
Collins  (Rev.  Wm.)  of  co.  Warwick,  300 
CoUyer  (R.)  on  the  Longfellow  family,  43 
Colomb  (Col.  George)  on  Milburns  Castle,  427 
Colonel  from  coronell,  86 
Comic  newspapers,  list  of,  479,  523 
Commeline  (Rev.  Jame-),  108.  109 
Common  Prayer- Book  of  the  Church  of  England,  error 

in  the  Epihtle  for  Qainquagesima,  384 
"  Complaynt  of  Scotland,"  copies  of  it,  140 
Connanght  kings,  their  seal,  221 
Constantino  (E.)  on  Uaro  =«  Ridolph,  127 

Harrowgate,  its  etymology,  409 
Cooke  (Chr.)  on  Godfrey  Higg'n/s  portrait,  469 

Nelson's  punctuality.  1S4 

Parkins  (Dr.),  works,  76 

Ticbbome,  origin  of  the  name,  284 
Coolidge  (W.  A.  B.)  on  derivations  of  coontries,  137 
Coolie  system,  291 
Cooling  (E.),  Jan.,  on  Lady  Alice  Egerton,  150 

Gentle,  a  plant.  375 
Cope  (Lady  Elizabeth),  commonplace-book,  25 
Copenhagen,  iU  Heralds'  College.  9 1 
Comnb  on  Bnckden:  ChekV,  359 

Gowrie  conspiracy,  445 

Heron  (Capt.  Henry),  239 

Marriage  law,  ancient,  535 

Alanther,  its  derivation,  95 

Mitre  tavern,  483 

Natnralsslefritimate.  260 

Scotch  royalL>ts,  446 

Sturdivant,  itn  derivation,  281 
Cornwall,  burial  usages  in  1725,  358 
Comwallis  (Miss  C.  F.),  418,  521 
Correspondents,  foreign,  of  the  daily  papers,  385 
Cotton  ball  symbolical  of  neglected  affiance,  300,  371 
Countries,  European,  derivation  of  names,  137,  210, 

2C8 
Goutts  (Thomas)  banker,  parentage,  38 
Country,  St.  Michael's  nave,  126 
Cowper  (B.  H.)  on  Burroccio's  *♦  The  Entombment,"  75 
Cowper  (J.  M.)  on  the  remains  of  Fizarro,  481]      ""*" 
Cowper  (Win.)  the  poet,    ancestry,    484;    memorial 

window,  66  ^ 

Cox  (Capt.),  ballads  and  book,  27 
Cox  (J.  C.)  on  ashen  faggot  and  Christmas  eve,  87 

Atkinson  ( T.  A.),  415 

Bell  inscriptions,  466 

Burial  osagee,  466 

Heroo  or  Hemt,  306 


SSI 


INDEX. 


/  Indn  Sapplrmeni  to  tba  NoCa  and 
1  garrie*.  wtib  So.  90,  Jnlj  S7,  I8»L 


G*{J-'r.>i.3  Hotcl-.p.t.  41U 

*  3>J.?;H  iinil  );ui,cnt  me,''  &o.,  149 

iKtt>fi  :)iiixeJ  to  cliurih  doors,  139 

(ii}  ^i>\eib,  42v^ 

J^»w-1,  a  kite,  ]CM 
C(£)  f  ci,  on  BaV.ac  :u.(l  ILrnce,  i;On 

A^iffarjH  ti)  .'inii  t'rri;n  the  South  u!'  Ireland,  133 
Cni»rt»  i^a«l.  Dairy  Lnne,  .'JSl 
Ou'>trL'(,I.  T.)  on  a  i.iilmc  attributoJ  to  Hogarth, 

afir. 

CimiX  ».i?^  r»no,  217 

CTm*»I'(Oiirfr).  rHics,  75.  80, 1C2.  2l»«);  sralt--,  116, 

IS  J:  3»iMrrJ:i;^e  nf  lii«i  il:MJj1iter  to  IJ'.cli,  386 
On«i.»ia  .^ihuiiia^),  rii.  ]).,  I'JS,  267,  347 
Cnni:«>r!!«u>  ei:i,  13 
CnM.j3h.-i>.  p:i;l:iin>-.l,  2'>l 
CiMun  %nu)\,  319 
Cub  wu^  !i.iIt  pnwdiT.  402 
Ciuj  I ifcirii*  (10.)  on  "your  b. ars  apuiii,"  310 

OTiiw  (>«'♦*)  and  l.i.s  .^'st^^,  477 

Tte'Dns.M'Js  ••  S'aaons,"  a  ini.'.print,  21 S 
Ciuiui-;2:i3i  (Allan)  ai.d  Anne  E«i^ar,  319,  346 
Cainiif:))^:^  (K.)  r.n  Allan  Cunnin^'lani,  346 
^Cn]f  ^'••''  Silnion,'  an  inn  .si^n,  262 
Cicli"*  1>1.  B.)  i.n  Ii'u>.ae;i  fanily  arni:',  139 
JCiatn3b  \«K  K.)  on  S.insr'ino:*,  77 
C  ^W.^J-:^  di-tt'ct.s  of  in.'irriajo  r<-i:i.>ti^rs.  277 
C  (W.i  "i  en  :Sir  IJ  .li.rt  AM-mn,  3:.9 
C.pT  ::»  11.)  on  the  Cliun'h  f.iM.iiy,  46S 

Aji«rTij..}|,il  ;;oriiMi.);;y,  .-jO'.J 

J^r4!??jt  c-ffins.  53  t 
Crnm-iij  ]«'kt'.-,  a  j-ruvincialisni,  86 

i-Vff.V/a.ions,  219 

KjfwTry,  -ta  derivation.  188,  2S6 

ivxta  (\,>r.  Ji)ini),  jtrJigrre,  239 

»u.r«:':k?s.  320 
C*-ii  M  :?*r..:i's  "  .M;iid  of  Atlipns,"  3b6 

jA',>yrt  eMiii.ent  jwii-on.  301 
O  win  Mi  *K"jy  jujrliait  of  Louis  XVI.,  .')4 

I> 

I^  {X")  h\  5lif  jleriv.ition  of  Tiptorcrs.  15 

'•  IlurU'  il.^rj>}>a"  and  its  ofF-ct.**,  72 

Jtan-ur  \!i\  A.),  *' Lu  Vivu  Murtn,"  141 

lJUi.^\#:V!»*Mii;r  nainr,  l^^O,  247 

iJbit)  >  ^  yi^raili^..,"  480,  482 

Utnk^  *T»el,  .rS2 

lTXuih^,^r  ',A-:iipp:j).  coinplot<»  rdi;!  in  of  hi.i  work?,  48 

JUiVTTai*^  <Sir  Will.),  ballad  npon  his '"  Cruolty  of  the 

NfHii.vr.l.i  ill  IV: n,"  49 
IXjria  tJt'j  Davir,  45 

.I>jii;bi.>  {Hfy.  Aiilhonv).  workn,  93.  171,  305,  375 
IhTAfc  ^L  V.)  on  ••  Carl  llie  Martyr,"  517 
iJL»rir>ri.  L.  0.)  on  blnc-vinid  ci.cn>e,  lOl 
ILVT  l.VAir,).  ri.ndrau,  '•  Jii>t  like  L-ve,"'  319 
1^17  \Xh^  -.  \\'v\>h  bard,  execnted,  494 
J).<*\X;.wj  the  L:.ird  of  Cdiiebili,  524 

n-32:i]t  barons,  65,  168 
II  (£.")M  Lairp,  Larps,  Larpo,  4^5 
iJiarxtt  t^.  Tlionias),  •'  Com  pleat  Collection  of  Dcvo- 

LbiAli!a:t  hsjln^  tree,  426 
i^  ftQr;;\  im.ily,  219,  2S6,  330,  3:6,  431 
^xiDtfitt  in  churches,  83 
i**\(i»->^^  iii»tJicmatieaI  profaoc,  533 
ttri.  iD.  siisrl£ce,  117,  185 


Deer,  the  ml,  428,  493,  521 

iJeeside,  its  locnl  hUtories,  81>  148 

I)cfender=sto  forbid.  178.  866.  349 

Defue  (Daniel),  "Tne-Born  Englishman;'  424 

Deists,  Societj  of  ancient,  181 

Deker,  its  etymology,  86 

Di-laval  (Sir  John)  of  Blith.  504 

Denham  (Sir  John),  date  of  his  death,  5U4 

Derby,  ur  Darby,  its  pronunciation,  99 

De:»boroagh  (Gen.  John),  noticed,  63 

Devil'b  nutting-day,  Sept.  21,  57,  166,  225.  207 

1).  (G.  N.)  on  lolanthe,  407 

D.  (G.  T.)  on  babii>d,  folk  lore.  53 

W.-Lshing  hands  and  bign  of  the  cross.  45 
D.  (H.  P.)  on  baptismal  name  changed,  19 

Inscriptions,  171 
D.  (H.  W.)  nn  the  Lord  Boqueki,  74  ^       ♦ 

Devil's  nutting  day,  57 

Puilshmentin  1728,297 

Ship.  ••  The  Chaulicleer,"  261 
Diabetes  nie.litns,  a  disca&e,  26 
Dial,  fXK'ket,  505 

DiaUnrts.  gradual  diminution  of  provini-ial,  86,  171,  250 
Dibdin  (E.  l.'imbault)  on  song  in  prait^e  of  beef,  127 
DitfS,  a  game  played  by  schonlboyd,  201 
Dice,  its  derivation,  319,  412  ^ 

Di(  kens  (Charle>),  anonymous  works,  23 ;  boyhood,  36 
Diet,  its  influence  on  life.  280,  329 
Dillon  (II  )  i>n  Maiiter  of  tlie  Lem>h,  427 

Lee  (Sir  Kichard),  427 
Ditnond  (Wni.),  dramatist,  360 
Dinmrs  "  a  la  IJu-.ie,'*  422,  483 
Dip,  its  meaning  in  Mcndip,  24 
Di.senting  ministers  in  parliauient,  429,  493 
Divorcid  woman,  iiuw  addrosbeJ,  200,  251,  306,  373, 

445.  520 
Dis  (Ji'hn),  bincrapher  of  Chalterton,  294,  365,  429 
Dx  n  ^J.)  on  Milton  queries,  311,  445 
Dijiun  (Dr.  J.  II.)  on  the  billycock  and  wide-awake 
hat,  444 

"Black  John,"  491 

Danforlh,  its  meaning,  ISO 

"  Dick  of  Taunton  De.m."  397 

Douth  in  a  hollow  tree,  426 

Fiwlden  Field  ballad,  327 

Freema>:0us,  413 

"Uistoiredu  Baton  ,"360 

llogartli's  "Mtnii^n  Midnight  Conver^tion,"  22 

Latin  I.inguage,  41 

*•  Long  Trestou  Peggy,"  82 

"  Not  lost  but  gone  before,"  476 

Popular  French  sonps.  442 

lUnz  des-Vaches,  414 

Round  towers  of  Norfolk,  327 

Song:  "  Lord  Ran.ial,"  170 

Sougs  of  S'.^itzerland,  112 

"  The  curfew  tolls,"  &c.,  510 

"  The  Widow  Gregory,"  85 

Umbrellas,  97 
Dixons,  vicars  of  Bnckminster,  co.  Lriceater,  506 
D.  (J.)  on  Thomas  Bateman,  M.D.,  227 

Dr.  E.  A.  Hulyoke,  78 

Hard  labour,  475 
D.  (J.  B.  D.)  on  Cleopatra  and  OcUyia,  81 
D.  (J.  C.)  on  Gibson  family,  55 
D.  (J.  W.)  on  Heron  or  Uerne,  189 


Tndex  Bupplemcnl  to  thA  Notes  and  \ 
gaerlea.  with  No.  230,  JvAj  S7»  1872.  f 


INDEX. 


Dk.  (J.  S.)  on  *'  The  Paradise  of  Coqaettes,''  485 

Gilmour's  *'  Lothaire,"  503 
D.  (M.)  on  a  walnut  portrait  of  Bonaparte,  359 

Lancasliire  Maj  song,  402 

LlandafT  epiKCopnl  arms.  453 

Mane  of  the  war-horse,  389 

Alind  your  Ps,  340 

Parsley-bed  babies,  35 

Piersiiill  barracks,  Kdinburgh,  3S9 

Scales  of  justice,  1 1 

**  The  RegimenUl  Drum,"  389 

Tobacco  sinokiDi?,  384 

Unjust  weights,  15 

Vyae'a  Arithmetic,  116 
Dobson  (Arthur)  on  novelists*  flowers,  149 
Dodwell  (llev.  Wm.),  prebendary  of  &«rum,  14 
Dogs  buried  at  the  feet  of  bishops,  11,  538 
Dollinger  (Dr.),  "  Fable.n  respecting  the  Popes,*'  4G5 
Doorpost  bigns,  261,  302 
Dormer  (Michael),  Lord  Mayor,  his  seal,  338 
Dormouse,  its  plural,  181 
Dorset  (Thomas  Sackville,  Earl  oQ,  letter,  505 
Dorsetshire  rammilk,  85,  186 
Dovercourt,  its  derivation,  25 
Doxat  (Louis),  his  death,  88 

D.  (11.)  on  the  coins  of  the  Latin  princes  of  Antioch, 
219 

Guy  (Richard).  452 

Scales  and  weiglitx,  227 
Drake  (Sir  Francis),  p)rtrait  and  family,  1 1 7 
Drakeford  (D.  J.)  on  Mary  Wra^rg's  charity,  216 
Dramatists  of  the  Restoration,  66 
Draper  (H.  N.)  on  printed  matter  copied,  127 
Draupht=move,  483 

Drayton  (Mich.vel),  new  edition  of  his  works,  398 
Drennan  (Robert)  on  Burnsiana,  79 
D.  (R.  If.)  on  heraldic  queries,  138 
Druinlaniig  (Lord),  noticed,  506 
D.  (T.  J.)  on  Oe,  an  ialand,  361 
Dublin  newspapers,  406 

Dugdale  (Sir  Wm.)  editions  of  the  "  Monasticon,"  506 
Dumas  (Alexandre),  burial-place,  403 
Diimfriei<,  History  of  the  Burgh,  525 
DumfrieKshire  funeral  100  yeard  ago,  71 
Dundee,  its  Burgh  laws,  397 
Dunkin  (E.  H.  \V.)  on  the  oldest  dated  bells,  216 

"  Mary  is  Sonne,"  284 
Dunow,  or  Dumow  (John),  canon  of  Exeter,  279 
Dunsinane,  its  pronunciation,  103,  206 
Dutch,  victory  over  the,  in  1665,  343 
D.  (\V.  G.)  uD  an  authentic  document,  .SS6 
D.  (W.  M.)  on  Wither  and  Keble,  237 
D.  (W.  T.  T.)  on  oaken  architecture,  541 
D.  (X.  P.)  on  John  Wesley's  footprints,  5-12 


E,  the  6na],  in  early  English,  219 

Earle  (Bp.),  Durham  MS.  of  "  Micn^osmographie,"  33 

Earle  (John)  on  the  pronunciation  of  Manure,  25 

Earwuker  (J.  P.)  on  Wm.  SecoU's  brass,  280 

*'  East  Anglian  "  discontinued,  457 

Easter  Mondrty  festival  at  Vand,  357 

Easton  on  Weston-super-Mare,  325 

£cheles=!)teps,  206,   326 

Econen,  origin  of  the  name,  340 

£.  (D.  C.)  on  Bell  inicriptions,  53,  184 


41 


E.  (D.  C.)  on  Heraldic  query,  34 

Ladies  on  horseback,  81 

Mayor  of  London  in  U35,  321 

Value  of  a  coin,  343 
Edgar  (Anne),  marriage,  319,  346 
Edgar  (MLis  \  poetess,  469 
Edgeworth  (Abbe),  life,  279 
Edgeworth  (Miss  Maria),  biography,  101,  ft^.  Lift 
Edinburgh  dukedom,  318 
Edinburgh,  Piershill  barracks,  389,  454 
Edmonds  (F.)  on  the  deriralion  of  Willy,  StC 
Edward  L,  military  tenants.  241 
Edwin  (Sir  Randolph),  family,  238 
E.  (G.)  on  Rizzi  and  Pelli,  301 
Enar  on  Lusby,  near  SpiUby,  3S9 
Egerton  (Lady  Alice),  portrait,  94.  150,  ffiC,  tt7 
E.  (G.  F.  S.)  on  ''  Gotta  cavat  lapidcin,"  4il 
E«;gs  as  an  article  of  food,  125 
Eginton  (Francis),  artist,  birth-place,  27i 
E.  (H.  T.)  on  Church  bells,  278 

Kipling(J.),  foundry,  319 

Rfiyal  heads  on  bells,  309 

Tassie's  seals,  321 
E  (H.  T.),  lines  on  his  Opus  inagn\*v.  ^. 

531 
E.  (K.  P.  D.)  on  Baron  Bunsen,  55 

Circulating  libraries,  442 

Hope  surname,  408 

Freeholders  in  1761  and  1871,  44( 

Lincoln  (Elizabeth,  Countess  of),  AiC 

Selling  a  wife,  297 

Surnames,  290 

Thanksgiving  days.  270 

Thoresby's  early  Engliah  AiSS.,  481 

Wesley  (John),  footmarks,  190 
Eldon  (Lord)  or  "  Old  Bags,"  84,  130.  163.  t9C 
Eleyn  (Mistre6b).  attendant  on  Lady  Joaei 
Eliot  (George),  works  criticisnl,  497 
Eliot  (Sir  John),  petition,  180 
Elizabeth  (Princess),  duu;:hter  of  ChaHcsI.,  Ur  >Smtti^ 

185 
Elizabeth  (Queen)  and  country  mayor»,  1<)2 
Elwes  (Dudley  Carev)  on  Captain  King'ji 

309 
Ellaconibe  (IT.  T.)  on  Pudsay  family,  42# 

Royal  heads  on  bells.  38,  77,  309 
Ellcee  on  Oss,  or  Or^^e,  492 
Ellis  (A.  S.)  on  Sir  Philip  Fitzwaryn,  « 
Ellis  (Geo.)  on  porpoise  and  salmon,  496 
EUe,  iU  meaniiig,  219,  287,  493 
Elsted  church,  its  dedication,  486 
Elwes  (John),  the  ilPlser,  85 
E.  (M.)  on  American  state  nicknames,  f  1 

Clerical  custom,  424 

Longevity,  441 
Encyc]o|«dia8,  their  utility,  237 
Engine,  the  smallest  in  the  world,  3.57 
Engineers,  Directory  of  Foreign,  262 
Enigma  of  Senator  Volta's  teat  near  Bul«^j;«i«3U^ 

ofl"  my  head,**  &c.  38,  86. 
Ephesus,  the  council  of,  75,  104 

Epigrami : — 

Meum,  Tuum,  et  Suum,  or  Every  ithk  iiic  on 
Mr.  Leach  made  a  speech,  84 
Winchester,  465 


536 


INDEX. 


iguerlef,  wlih  Xo.  Si,  Jnly  t7. 1871. 


Epitaphi:— 

nootli  (Cap',  lluilhali)  at  Brpint  .n,  277 

Karricr,  in  Clewer  cliurcliyanl,  4*20,  523 

Franklin  (Beiijamin).  A\'J 

lUckett  (Hubert)  in  A:ilt-I{iirkn:i11  church,  42S 

Marriott  (Kicharil)  at  Ault-IIuckimll,  483 

I'billips  (Th..iius)  ut  Ickf.ird,  lUick*,  483 

S.iuiiiltfr.s  (barh.ira  an»l  Krbccca),  483 

Tonsoii  (J.iiiilj),  4:21) 

Trunnion  (IUwM.-r),  419 

Wanl  (MihaMtry).  <^iri'at  Wilhriham  cliarch,  1 15 

Watorljou.se  (Uev.  J.  J.)  of  Little  Stukelej,  296, 
349 

Watchmaker,  419 
Kpitaphti  ill  Mid;iloM>x  cliurclivards,  251 
Kques  auratus,  or  kni;;lit  hucl.elor.  \0i) 
Krl  Idnc  in  (jernun  iiiytholoiy,  138,  187.  242,  308 
K.  (R.  K.  W.)  on  an  Imiiaii  imp.ihtor,  4ti9 

Authentic  (Ii>cuin'*::t,  470 

Serpius,  or  1»  ihe  r.i  i-f  IJ  •sra.  :?21 
E.  (R.  S.)  on  har:;enirn"s  mhi^.  13 
Kspcd:tre  on  Boa-puil;   U«>n:iil|:i.  2\7 

Duria!  uba>:es  in  S  uthinj,  276 

II  .f  :  IlorRr,  4:3(1 

Mona>tie  iiiventorita.  487 

Monolith,  it:>  naniH.  3G0 

I^nfrevT.'^liire  folk  lore.  lj."5 

ScotiLth  iron  u»ni:ey,  57,  \bO 

Scutaiiu.s  ill  clurtcrs,  446 

Stell,  u  rnnnii;e  .-stream.  495 

Villa  in  uieiiia'val  d•>cunieut^,  433 

Wallin^i'rs,  540 
Esqniros  (Alplion.'»e),  '■  Les  A'lplaises  ih*a  Eux.*'  45* 
Ksj»ex  (R j!»iTt  Dcvt-reux.  E irl  ol),  p k ket  dial,  9 
E->te  on  a  prn«^ai.)^ical  hint,  45 
Estorhazy  f.anilv,  o.  M<m:n«>ulh.  300 
E.  (T.)  on  the  Rev.  Wiili.itn  Buldt-ley,  238 
Ethelnotli,  iSii^-tntl,  aiul  Elhehnar,  reIat.on:»hip,  74 
Etherington  family,  219 

Etherin;;ton  (R.)  on  tln»  Eiln'rini^t.m  f.iniily,  219 
Eucharibt  taken  with  thrw  lf:ive>,  39,  224,  327,  373 
Eve.Hhain  hittle.  hallid.  U.  34  > 
E.  (W.)  on  -A  prelty  k^tll^  ot  fi-h,"  521 

FloiidfU  Ficlil  battle,  101 

Speel.  a  j.rovincia'i^in.  21 
Exconriiunioaiion  in  1755»,  85 
Eyan  family  of  Kiiyiiht.Mie,  co.  Oxft>rd.  219 
Eyea,  njj.stake  i»f  «o!itur  by  p.iinler."*,  2l>7 
E.  (Y.  C.)  on  hawk  and  Jiat.dsuw,  514 


F.  on  the  coin  '•  W'c  populi,"  76 

Earl  of  Chatham  and  Rucar,  247 

F.  (A.  A.)  on  Banyan-day,  359 

Falkner  (T.  F.)  on  Lincolnshire  f^lk  lore,  267 

Family  narnes  as  Christian  names,  .'iOrt 

Farmer  (.r»hn),  hit  sinf^iilar  will,  4S2 

Farrar  (ILin.  Timothy),  a  cenlmarian,  40,  41 

Fatherland,  ori;;in  of  the  word,  312 

"  Father's  Ovn  Sm"  a  lost  play,  92 

Fazfn  eels,  36 

Fcderer  (C  A.)  on  Thomaa  Bateman,  M.D.,  159 
Etymol.)^?  of  burnames,  241 

Fellham  family.  217,  307 

Fcmaled  with  wigs,  56,  130,  183 


Fen  lakes  or  mem,  200 

Fenelon  ( Ahp.),"  Lives  of  the  Ancient  Philotophen  "  340 

Fennell  (H.  J.)  on  marriage  with  a  decea«.ed  wi|e*4 

aibter,  164 
Ferrera  (Gt-orpe).  196.  250 
Feitch  family  arms.  56 
Fetcham  Patk  frescoes,  136,  307 
F.  (II.  B.)  on  the  derivation  of  hobbeJehoj,  147 
Fictitious  name-H  of  au:hr>r^,  91 
Fiescbi  familv  pediirree.  238 
'•  Fill  the  Cu'p.  Phillip,"  a  |-«m.  500 
Findime's  fliwem,  23.  149.  189,  270 
Fincer  cakes,  175,  32.'i,  493 
Fiaiiius  (Quintu^).  Roman  }ioet,  bir!h-p!ace,  5 
Fiber  (W.  R.)  oo  Heron  or  Heme,  189 

I»ut!ock  =  a  kite,  lf.9 
Fi!*bin>r,  '*  Bibliotbeca  Piscatoria,"  74;  artificial  fly -fi^h- 

injr,  74 
Fin h wick  (11.')  on  cheap  IxNikcates,  104 

Leigh  (Cbarleit),  his  death,  13S 

I'broe  leaves  eaten  for  tl:e  eucharlnt,  39 
Fitzgerald  (Timothy),  bis  lonjierity,  336 
Fi:z!iopkiiis  on  a  Coincidence,  317 

Curious  bill,  443 

Damian,  141 

History  repeating  itself,  C32 

Wnrn  joke,  298 
Filzwa'yn  f.tmily,  22 
F.  (.J.)  on  the  four  ages  of  man,  445 

Thornton  Abbev,  161 
F.  (J.  T.)  on  "  All-to,'*  105 

Devil's  nutilng-duy,  225 

Earle's  "  MicncoHniographie,"  Durham  MS.,  33 

Lines  to  H.  T.  E.,  531 

Mencs  (R:iff.ivlle),  picture  a'.tributed  tu  Lirn,  470 

Mi-sererc  stalls,  518 

Round  towers  of  Norfolk,  186 

Royal  beads  on  belis.  250 

Sicns  on  door-yosts,  261 

Watch-papers,  83 

Wenley  (Jiihn),  fool  prints,  494 

Whalca'  ribs,  175 
F.  (J.  W.)  on  a  Molo.swnrth  medal,  84 
F.eetwool  family,  296.  362 
Fleetwood   House,   Stoke  Newington,  296,  362,  435, 

496 
Fleminc  (J.  W.)  on  military  medals,  75 
Flemish  emigrants,  23 
Fl.Kidcn  Field  battle,  101.  265 
Flowers,  their  pipular  name;*,  403 
Flue  time,  i.  e.  fiabing  time,  i292 

Folk  Lore  :— 

Adder  stone,  155 
Anglesey  superstition,  255 
Babiea*  first  prebents,  53,  135 
Charm  worn  in  the  German  army,  10 
Christmas  dccoratims  and  the  opper  room,  36 
Devirs  nutting.day,  Sept.  21,  57 
Dorsetshire,  175 

Fell  (Lortl),  the  king  of  fairies.  135 
Lancashire,  544 
Lincolnshire,  267 
May-day  ere,  401 

Alice  running  over  a  bed,  134,  40S;  ia 
honsea,  257 


Index  8upi>1em^nt  to  th<>  X>te«  and  \ 
guerict,  wUli  No.  339,  July  S7, 1871  / 


INDEX. 


557 


Folk  Lore:— 

Mouth,  cure  for  a  pore,  401 

Pandey-beil  and  Iwibieji,  35 

Pig-killing  and  the  muon,  24.  297 

Pins,  their  magical  uses,  354 

KhcuniHtUm  cured,  26,  127 

Kobin  killing,  24 

Running  worm,  2."; 7 

Slipper-throwing  at  Mre<l<1ings  257 

St.  Patrick  and  co.  Kerry,  135 

Summer  foretold,  135 

Toothache  cored,  174,  257 

Touch,  healing  by  the,  257,  401 

Valentine  Day  costoms,  135 

Waiihiag  hands  after  another  person,  45 

Weather  lore,  174,  267,  349,  401 
Fontaine  (F.  0.  de  la),  songs,  1 12 
Fontuine  (John  de  la),  fahle  written  daring  sleep,  94 
Foote  (SAmuel),  biography,  457 
Forbes  (I^)bert),  barlesqu'e  poet,  234,  371 
Forman  (H.  B.)  on  John  Dix,  429 
*'  Fortune,**  as  used  by  Chaucer  and  Sbakspeare,  339, 

465 
Foster  (P.  le  Neve)  on  Photographic  printing,  365 
^  Staith,  a  proTincialism,  23 

Fonrmont  (Abb<'),  literary  forgeries,  238,  368,  415 

Fowke  family,  55 

Fowke  (F.  It)  on  Dr.  Fowke,  55 

Early  armorial  bearings,  278 

Gene:tl>>gy,  apocryphal,  434 

Parocies,  &c.,  159 
**  Fragoletta,"  a  novel,  471 
France:  S'xi^t^  de  I'Histoire  de  France,  211;  R.yal 

and  Republican,  251 
Francis  (Sir  Philip)  and  his  correspondent,  1 1 7 
Franklin  (Benjamin),  epitaph,  419 
Frazer  (Dr.  W.)  on  etchings  by  the  Smiths,  534 

*'  Oriando  Furioso,"  early  edition,  635 
Frederick  the  Great,  letter,  1756,  91 
Frederick  I.,  Count  Palatine  of  the  Rhine,  502 
Freeholders  in  1761  and  1871,  444 
Freemasons,  onler  i-f  Noachile,  219, 413 
Freemasons  of  the  church,  219 
French  and  Flemish  emigrsnta,  23 
French  literature,  534 

Fretton  (\V.  G.)  on  width  of  church  navea,  126 
Freytag's  "  Pictures  of  German  Life,"  522 
Friday  not^  for  marriagei*,  469 
Friswcll  (Ilain)  on  "My  thoughts  are  racked/  167 
Frontispiece  of  an  old  work,  388 
F.  (T.)  on  the  colour  of  eyes,  297 

Lord- Lieutenant,  326.  432 
F.(T.  P.)  on  black-rain,  137 

lIotchinson*s  collectioo  for  Hunts,  160 
Fuller  (Sir  Nicholas),  his  family,  534 
Funeral  at  Dumfries  100  years  ago,  71;  in  Cum  wall, 

1725,358 
Fumivall  (  F.  J.)  on  Bears*  grease,  484 

Bulleyn  (Wm.),  465 

Chaucer  and  Dante,  480 

Chaucer  (Thomas),  not  the  poet's  son,  381,  494 

Chaucer  restored,  71,  110,  156 

Chanter's  " Canterbory   Tales,"  Lord  Delemere's 
MS.,  353 

"  Coniplaynt  of  SoatUnd,**  1549,  140 


Furnivall  (E.  J.)  on"  Cry  havock,"  in  Shakspeare,  463 

DcUvmI  (Sir  John)  nf  Biith,  504 

lleywiiod  (.John)  and  Chaucer.  177 

Hilton  (\Villi.im)  of  Bidicke,  467 

One-IVniiy,  a  game,  201 

Pannde  or  pavade,  1 8 1 

Pieces  from  utaiiuscNpts,  500 
F.  (W.)  on  Bal.^ur^b^d,  348 

F.  2.  (W.)  on  Barlny,  395 

Burns's  •♦  'Preiltice  Han'.**  229 
"Gilty  Ciate  Petey,"  a  tune,  258 
Provincialisms,  230 
S>ng.  '•  Fye,  gae  rub  her,"  240,  397 

G 

G.  {EtUnburgh)  on  the  Dukedom  of  Edinlu"gh,  318 

0'Ui.herty*i  Maxims.  247 

Parish  registers,  395 

"  The  Present  State  of  Great  Britain,"  260 
G.  (A.)  on  Anthony  Daridson,  375 

Forbes  Robert,  371 

*•  Henry  Vlll.  pulled  do|rn,**  &c.,  208 

Mary  Queen  of  Scots,  *•  Historic,"  262 

Mure  (Sir  ^Ym  )  of  Kuwallane,  157 
G,  (A.  E.)  on  Grey-Friars  wf  Bewnakan, 360,  519 

Turner  (Mr.),  343 
Gai  »guiety,  song,  mirth,  466 

Guiusboroug'i  (Thomas),  •*  Blue  Boy/*   lOj  as  a  musi- 
cian, 39 
Galiieij,  iuKcription  on  his  hou«o,  .15 
Gardiner  (S.  R.)  on  Charles  l.'s  Irtierx,  6 
Gardner  (Edward),  author  of  ''  Mistelhrnies,"  2C2 
Garret  and  Gerald,  synonymous  name?*,  25;  412,  517 
Gavpey  (Wm.)  on  the  Erl  King,  187 
Gatty  (Dr.  Alfred)  on  Jaques's  dial,  505 
GMUtier  (M.  Ldon),  «  Chanson  de  Roland,'*  233,  399 
Gawvi>on,  its  derivation,  200,  267 
G.iy,  meaning  wanton,  82,  171 
Gay  (John),  ballad  in  *'  What  D'je  Call  It,"  4S2 
G.  (C.)  on  Chnstmaa  magistrate  iu  the  saturnalia,  170 

Medal  of  1605,  201 

St.<mp  u>ed  for  the  sign  manual,  228 
G.  (E.)  01)  wild  beasts  fir  sale,  207 
Geerau  (Thomas),  hi:i  longevity,  108.  131,  175 
Gondnus  (Thoniap),  his  native  pKnce,  6 
Genealogy,  spicryphal.  3.>6,  434,  503 
Genealojy,  child  luring  hs  mother's  name,  45,  105 
Genius  liefined,  280,  374,  393.  449,  522 
Geidis  (Madame  de),  Prioct  Talleyrand's  letter  to  her, 

Gentle,  a  plant  or  flower,  200.  290.  328,  375 

Goiigrapl.y:  •*  Tavole  Modcrue  di  Geografia,"  181 

George  III.,  Tisit  to  P«)rtsmouth,  .W 

German  army,  superstitions  in,  10 

G.  (F.)  on  the  word  Board,  149 

G.  (G.)  on  Rubens'  **  Susannah  and  the  Elders,"  139 

G.  (H.)  on  balUd:  song.  408 

G.  (U.  S.)  on  Cokefey,  Throckmorton,  &e.,  61,  513 

Seward  fan.ily,  arms,  516 
Gibbon  (Edward),  unpublished  letters,  14 
Gibbons  (E.  T.)  on  Lundv  Island,  1 18 
Gibbons  (Lee),  noticed,  374,  522 
Gibbs  (H.  U.)  on  Campshead,  44 
Gibaon  (Bd.  Edmund),  family,  55,  144 
Gib.^D  (J.)  on  Bums's  copy  of  Sbakspeare,  &c.,  836 
Gifford  (John),  magistrate  and  author,  301 


Index  Sni>i>Icmcnt  to  the-  N<'te«8  and  > 
Queries,  with  No.  230,  July  i'7,  l^;-.'.  j 


INDEX. 


561 


James  (K.  N.)  en  l»ui»ert  (Prince),  arms,  370 

ritillan  (Lf  Comte  dt-),  45') 
Jaydee  on  Kizi  and  IVili.  350 
J;iYtc3  on  "  Mi!»tiet<x'  IJ  •ugh,"  142 
J.  (C.)  on  Loi(l-Lit?u;eiiarir.  its  plural,  2'20 
J.  (K.)  on  Cromwell  ndics,  75 

lioer-jii:  inscripti'n.s,  250 

Nfl.M  ii's  dcalii,  207 

Nou.sucli  palace,  208 

Wrijlii's  •'  Domestic  Miiirers  of  the  E      ish,"  451 
Jenner  (Edward),  M.I).,  proposed  memorial,  bG 
Jeremiah  (.J.)  on  D.ivid:   D.ivit.  45 

Exco:nmunication,  a  copy  of  one,  S5 

Ilou.-olinrr  clot  Iks  318 

Irish  f»)llv  lore,  S-.  Patrick,  135 
Jervis:  J..rvis,  its  {'ronunciation,  100,  207,  287 
J».'w:  meaning  of  the  verb  "  To  Jew,"  318 
Jewi&li  mezuzah,  2GI,  302 
Jews-harp  =  ja-.v.s-harp,  ISO 
J.  (G.  S.)  on  Mr.  Pitt  and  Tautus,  384 
J.  (J.)  on  sliilly->hally,  285 
J.  (J.  C.)  on  -''The  IJoar  Hunt,"  319 

Burns  (Rober:),  hook  with  his  siunaturc,  371 

Cipher,  an  old,  444 

Lens  (Bernard)  and  his  sons,  36 

MarlL'on>ui;li  (1st  Duke  of),  miniature,  485 

i*rint  query,  73 

Iloman  te^^era,  240 

IJupert  (Prince),  Ids  anus,  38 

Jsobie^ki  (J.),  king  of  Poland,  221 
Jocclyn  (Sir  Ci»nyers),  pedigree,  426,  477 
Jdhan  on  Di-rby  or  Dai  by,  99 
Ji.hn  de  Bergh  (Hubert)  on  Hubert  de  Biir^h.  286 
Johnson  (Dr.  Samuel),  a  snutF-takcr,  87;  Latin  Alcaic 

Ode,  482 
Johnstone  (Sir  irdintd),  f.imily,  3G0,  414 
Joke,  a  worn  «»ne,  203,  373 
.lones  (Ii'igo)  .-md  the  K«rl  of  Prnd>roke.  535 
Jones  (Col.  John),  the  regicide,  42C,  490 
J.  (0.  S.  J.)  on  Sir  Bobert  Peat,  225 
Joule  (B.  St.  J.  B.)  on  illuminatiu'/,  185 

Scott  (J  )  ol  Spanish  Town,  221 
Judicial  hononr,  253,  338 
Junii  Ncpos  or.  Dorsethhire  folk  lore,  175 

Dorsetshire  rammilk,  lJr6 

Marriages  (.f  Englisli  princesyes,  46 
Junius  Letters,  ciitiial   ariicle.-i  on   ihcin   by  the  Lord 
Chief  Justice,    28;    Wm.    Buike,  a  claimant,    71; 
handwriting.  459 
Jupiter  Apenninus,  his  temple,  153,  224 
Justice,  the  s^cales  of,  1 1 
J.  (W.)  on  Adndral  B.igh,  534 

K 

K.  (A.  J.)  on  Scotti-h  iron  money,  144 

K.  (A.  0.)  on  the  Bed  Cro.s.v,  Her.-ford,  301,  372 

K.  (C.  S.)  on  Mi>s  KdL'ewuith's  autobiography,  101 

"  Eile-n  Aro.n,"  197 

Laird  ..f  Codiehill,  360 

Lenten  custoui,  395 

Scottish  retourti,  87 
K.  (E.)  on  the  Bev.  Bi«  hard  Selby,  361 
Kean  (Edmund),  unpuhii.shed  witticism,  296,  349 
Ktble  (John)  and  parallel  passa-jeti,  158,237 
Keightley  (T.)  on  Bouny  Clapper,  296 

"  Secret  Societies  of  the  lliddle  AfffS,**  54] 


Kellie  earldom,  501 

Keisip,  its  ilenvaiion,  13 

Kennedy  (H.  A.)  on  a  Eiench  chanson,  100 

L.idy's  maid,  a  n)an  in  fernab*  attire,  385 

Mary  Queen  of  Scot>'  p  :eni.<.  1G5 

XajJtdecn  on  board  the  Norihuuibcrland,  123 

Boche  (Sir  Boyle),  367 

Shakt-peare,  coiitemfirary  citicism,  237,  329 

UjdiH])tised  child,  24 
Kent,  its  tour  hundreds.  184 
Ketchup  or  cat.sup,  origin  of  the  name,  279 
Kethe  (\Villi;im),  his  psalms,  58 
Kelt  (Kev.  Henrv;  of  Trinitv,  Oxford,  379,  448,  517 
K.  (G.)  on  "  Adim  Blair,"  445 

'•The  Table  Talker,"  416 
K.  (IL)  on  national  characteristics,  408 
Kiddle-a-wink,  a  Cornish  ale-ln)U»e,  19 
King  (Edward)  on  the  Crozier  fauiily,  319 
King  (Henry)  on  Ovid  "  Metam.  xiii.  254-5,**  230 
King  (Capt.  Samuel),  Narrative  of  Sir   \V.  llaleigh, 

239,  309,  350 
King  (P.  S.)  on  •'  Apropos  de  Bottcs,"  72 

Boost ra  pa,  92 

First  new»pH[>er  report  by  telegraph,  91 

Gates  of  Somnauth,  34 

Singular  custom,  174J 

Woi>lwich  dockyard,  115 
King  (Thomas  Wm.),  York  herald,  death,  131 
Kipling  (J.),  his  foundryj  319 
Kirkby  Malhamdale,  niunil  decorations,  72 
Kissing,  lines  on  by  Dr.  Win.  Strode,  77,  245 
K.  (K.)  on  Knarr:  Wryde,  145 
Kluus  (Mr.),  the  prince  of  smokers,  466,  524 
Knaresborough  Fore>t,  its  hi.>tory,  376 
Knarr,  its  meaning  and  derivation,  56,  145 
Knight  (G.  H.)  on  equivocal  relation.^hip,  240 
Knight  of  Morar  on  Lady  Jane  Dundas,  200 

Colours  nailed  to  the  masl,  426 

"  Flesh'd  thy  maiden  sword,"  325 

Hans  Place  hoax,  340 

Napoleon  at  Waterloo,  533 
Knights,  clerical,  79 

Knights  HospitallerH,  lands  in  Bedford.vhire,  506 
Knollvs  (Lettice),  daughter  of  Sir  Francis  Knollrs,  65 

147 
Knowles  (E.  H.)  on  papal  bulls,  428 
Knox  (John),  Psalter,  239 
Knucklebones,  a  game  played  by  schoolboys,  201 
K.  (P.)  on  Povntz  family,  105 
K.  (W.)  on  "*As  btraight  us  a  die,**  119 
Kybbell  (Thoina.-),  pocmn,  502 


L.  on  prompters'  translations,  357 
L.  (A.)  on  christening  bit,  129 
Laader,  walking  under  one,  317 
»»  Ladies'  Monthly  Museum,"  388 
LtadXes  ot\  \\0T»cWk,  542 
**  IaA^  'Hne  Dandas,"  foundered,  200 
l^^A^'s  maid,  a  male  returned  convict,  3S5 
»     /^Y.i)  w^\cV\olas  de  Meaux,  3S7 


337 


<  XUUGavt,  ¥ted.V  Ills  longevity,  54, 33 
P*''\Vtv>), u«  vt«at«ty,  9*2 


558 


INDEX. 


r  Index  Bapricment  tn  tbe  ITaln  nd 
1  Querlcf .  ikltta  Ha  no^  Joljr  S7.  un. 


Gilbert  (CharleB  Sanduc),  his  death.  75.  141 

Giles  (Dr.  J.  A.)  on  Thomas  Kybbett,  502 

Girahli  (Lilio  Gregorio)  of  Ferrara,  187 

G.  (J.  A  )  on  "Belter  to  reign  in  bell,"  &c.,  35 

Glostonbary,  the  abbot's  watch,  15 

Glengall  (Lord)  and  Lord  Edward  Tliynne,  135 

G'/8iary,  provincial,  22,  65,  119 

"  Gloucester  Journal  "  for  Nov.  21,  1788,  quoted,  439 

Glwysii;  on  Ksterliazy,  or  Marks,  3G0 

W\h\\  bard,  John  Davv,  494 
"  God  in  the  Gcnerationa  of  tho  Mghteons,"  118,  328, 

416 
Gold  mining  in  France,  533 

Gelding  (C.)  on  \Vithip<»ll  and  Thekeston  families,  447 
Goldsmith  (Oliver),  author  of  "  Ginniy  Two  Shoes,"  15 
Golli-Gosperado,  ingredients  of  the  disli,  507 
*'  Goody  Two  Shoes,"  its  authorship,  15 
Gort  (Viscount)  on  Sir  C«inyers  Jocelyn,  477 
Linguistic  children.  187 
Stradling  family  of  St  Donats,  470 
Gouldsmith  (John)  of  Xantwich,  200 
Gourmand:  Gourmet,  explained,  89,  162.  242,  321 
Governor  and  viceroy  distingui^hed,  94,  266 
Gowrie  conspiracy,  445 
G.  (K.)  on  marriage  with  a  deceased  wife's  sister,  75 

Vicar  of  hell,  301 
"  Gradus  ad  Pamassum,"  269,  370,  432 
Grape,  bloom  on  it,  425,  477 
Gray  (Thomas),  passages  in  his  Poems,  339,  390,  436, 

515 
Grazebrook  (XL  S.)  on  Burley  family,  464 
Noel  familv,  341 
Till  family,  543 
Willoughby  family,  508 
Green  (Dr.  Ezra),  his  longevity,  323 
Green  (Old  Tom),  the  blacksmith,  465 
Greene  (llobert),  dramatist,  237 
Grey  (Lady  Jane),  day  of  her  marriage,  484 
Grey  (Mrs.  M.  A.),  her  death,  398 
Grey  Friars  of  Bewmakan,  360,  4:52 
Greysteil  on  the  Lepcll  family,  506 
G.  (R.  J.)  on  "Call  us  not  weeds,"  160 
Grongar  Hill,  Caermarthenshirc,  271 
Grosart  (A.  B.)  on  Lady  Cope's  Common-Place  Book, 
23 
Die,  dice,  412 
Grotesque  figures  and  monsters,  mediaeval,  389,  455 
Grove  (Edward),  dramatist,  340 
Guerre  (Martin),  the  story  of  his  life,  54 
Guidinan,  a  territorial  distinction,  25 
Guilds,  English,  an(Lear]y  printing,  31 
Guilford  (Ficdi-rick,  2nd  earl  of),  birth-place,  271 
Guillotine  in  1872,237 
Gulson  (E.)  on  beer  jug  inscriptions,  433 
Gumpheon  men,  140,  186 
Guy  (Kichard)  of  Inglcton,  327,  452 
G.  (W.)  on  the  meaning  of  B«»ard,  149,  251 
Fell  (Lord)  the  kini:;  of  the  i'airioi!,  135 
Hear!  hearl  285 
Johnson  (Dr.),  a  snuff-taker,  87 
G.  (W.  A.)  on  Gibbon's  unpublislied  letters,  14 
Gwero  on  Polish  women  wearing  wigs,  130 
Gwillim  (E.  L.)  on  Brayded:  braydes,  146 
Gyrvi  on  Knarr;  Wryde,  56 


H 

H.  on  the  loving  wifes,  427 
Miserere  stalls,  518 
Napoleon  at  Waterloo,  538 
H.  (A.)  on  Panade  or  Pavade,  246 

Sandal-wood,  95 
Haberdasherb'  Company,  exhibitions,  2]  1 
Haig  (J.  R.)  on  Haigh  of  Hnddtrsfield,  S09 

Wax  of  tlie  ancients,  263 
Haigh  family  of  Haddersfield,  309 
Hailstone  (E.)  on  "  A  Compleat  CoIIaetioD  of  Dero- 
tions,"  445 
Higgins  (Godfrey),  portrait.  518 
Hair,  its  length  in  men  and  women,  287 
Hair  powder  and  cues,  402 
H.  (A.  J.)  on  Henri  Deux  Ware,  38 
Haliwell  priory  in  Shoreditch,  118 
Halkelt  (Samuel),  "  Dictionaiy  of  Andnjmoiu  Woiki,'' 

271,403 
Hall  (A.)  on  Chaucer  queiy,  468 

Chancer  restoi^,  32,  70, 109,  155 
Hall  •  0.  K.)  on  Bums's  Shakspeare,  &c  39S 
Halliwell  (J.  0.),  donation  to  the  Utirenity  of  Edio 
burgh,  211 
Old  maps  of  LondoD,  95 
Halsted's  "  Saccinct  Genealogies  of  Vers,"  340,  416 
"  Halswell  East  Indiamao,**  its  loas,  94,  166 
Hamilton  (Scott),  dramatist,  138 
Hamilton  (W.)  on  American  songs,  301 
Hamilton  (Wm.  Richard),  tramUtions,  74 
Hamlet,  first  actor  of,  115 
Hamo  of  Hythe  (Bishop),  his  statue,  485 
Hampden  (John),  second  wife,  506 
Hamst  (Olphar)  on  the  d«cription  of  m  book,  8;  bov  ftf 
describe  one,  273 
Atkinson  (J.  A.),  372 
Brougham  (Lord)  and  literatnrey  69,  111 
Gibbons  (Lee),  bis  works,  522 
Halkett's  Dictionsry  of  Anonrnions  Worio,  403 
Hand  of  Glory,  its  powers,  238,  289,  376,  436,  4U 
Handkerchiefs  discarded  by  ladies,  64 
Hangmen,  hereditary,  136 
Hans  Place  hoax,  840,  452 

Har^  labour  the  punishment  of  cnlprits,  404,  475,  517 
Harington  (E.  C.)  on  monastic  libraries,  245 
Harlaw,  account  of  the  battle,  46,  101 
llarleian   Society,   «*  Visitations  of    Natta,*'    108;   d. 

London,  140 
Haro,  Norman-French  cry,  127,  S09 
Harp  tavern.  Little  Rnssell  Street,  381 
Harrison  (Auna)  on  Findeme'a  flowen,  23 

Gentle,  a  plant,  375 
Harrison  (Wm.)  on  dogs  boned  at  tlie  ftrt  of  biihopi 

538 
Harrow,  its  etymology,  20,  121, 203 
Harrowgate,  its  etymology,  20,  121,  103,  803,  409, 

476;  its  hlstoiy,  376 
Hartopp  family  of  Stoke  Newingtoo,  S96,  ftCt 
Harvey  (Margaret),  poeten,  469 
H.  (A.  S.)  on  the  ballot  at  BoiM^  74 
Hat,  billycock  and  wide-awake,  444^  517 
Hatton  (Edward),  *'  New  Viiw  of  Loadaa**  UMUt  i 

118 
Hauff,  critiqne  on  hb  worin,  485 
H.  (E.  A.)  on  Baooafftrie'b  dktnm,  74 


Tndex  Sopplement  to  tbe  Notes  Mid  1 
Qoeriei,  with  Na  S39,  Jaly  t7, 187V.  | 


INDEX. 


559 


H.  (E.  A.)  on  Punishment  of  matin j,  100 

Dnk«  of  Wellington,  58 
Health  drinking  and  toachin^i;  glasses,  541 
Health  enquiriea  cenanred,  35 
**  Hear  I  hear! "  earljr  Ube  of  the  exclamation,  200, 229, 

285 
Heathen  persecuted  hj  Christians,  118,  187,  248 
Hebb  (J.)  on  frescoes  at  Fetcham  Park,  138 
Heddwch  on  "  Marj  Anne  "  toast,  38 
Hedgehog  in  heraldry,  38,  229,  288 
Hedlej  (J.  C.)  on  *'  GutU  cayat  lapidem/*  494 
H.  (E.  J.)  on  round  towers  of  Norfolk,  391 

St.  Winnel,  450 
Help,  verb  '*  to  help,**  its  different  meanings*  56,  147 
HenJerson  (Septimus)  on  bell  inscriptions,  115 
Hendriks  (F.)  on  quadruple  and  triple  births,  204 
Henfrey  (H.  W.)  on  Oliver  Gromweirs  seals,  1 1 6 

Cromwell  (Thomas),  Ph.  D.,  267 

Ileproduction  of  seals  and  coins,  268 

Temple  (Sir  Peter).  307 
Henrietta  Maria  (Queen),  household,  407 
Henry  II.  of  France,  his  ware,  38,  148 
Henry  VI.,  memorlahs  of  his  reign,  544 
Henry  VIII..  stamp  used  by  him  instead  of  the  sign 

manual,  179,228,287 
Hensel  (Luise),  "  Nachtgebet,"  309,  348 
Hephal],  ito  locality,  218 

Heraldic,  families,  &c.,  who  bore  Ar.  a  cross,  gu.,  with- 
out a  difference,  280 
Heraldic  book-plates,  160 
Hereford,  Red  Cross  relic,  301,  372,  542 
Hennentrude  on  baptbmal  names,  21 

Bundle  of  queries,  484 

Burley  family,  512 

Garret  and  Gerald,  517 

•'  In  hot  water,"  524 

lulanthe,  516 

Latin  language,  4*2 

Lee  (Sir  Richard),  494 

Om  or  Orse,  524 

Proverbs  and  Christian  names,  423 

NYelsh  bard  impri.soned,  524 
Heron  family  name,  alias  Heme,  45,  129,  189,  227, 

306,  395 
Heron  (Capt.  Henry),  239 
Hertford  (Marquis  of),  collection  of  pictures,  457 
Hertfordshire,  its  history,  524 
Hexameters:  iambioi,  316 
Hey  wood  (John)  and  Geoffrey  Chaucer,  177 
H.  (F.)  on  early  recollections,  65 
H.  (F.  C.)  on  Ashen  fsgot,  166 

Baudkin,  or  Baudekin,  105 

Bloom  of  the  grape,  477 

Cockroaches,  490 

Creed,  a  new  one,  217 

Dinners  "  k  la  Kusse,"  422 

Dogs  buried  at  the  feet  of  bishops,  18 

Dorsetshire  custom,  135 

Else,  a  family  name,  287 

Four  children  at  a  birtli,  127 

Gentle,  a  flower,  290 

German  song  wanted,  388 

"  GutU  carat  lapidem,**  542 

"  He  made  the  desert  smile,**  47 

Health  enquiries,  35 

Hensel  (Luise)  *<  Nachtgebet,**  348 


H.  (F.  C.)  on  Letters  unanswered,  196 

Lucifer  matches,  their  inventor,  290 

Miserere  carvings,  372,  517 

"  Nam  nihil  est  gemmis,**  308 

*•  Office  of  the  Holy  Week,**  489 

Oss,  or  Orse,  404 

Prirojy  on  *'  Childe  Harold,"  531 

"  Parent  of  sweetest  rounds,**  &o.,  86 

Pightle,  a  provincialism,  287 

Pri.se,  its  etymology,  44 

Proverbs,  490 

St.  Dorothy,  lef^end,  518 

St.  Winell,  287 

Scales  and  weights,  166 

Signs  on  doorposts,  302 

Song,  an  old  one,  64 

Spanish  onions  brought  to  England,  524 

"  Think  that  day  lost,"  &c.,  521 

Trial  alphabets,  215 

Verb,  **To  Jew, '  its  meaning,  318 

"  When  Adam  delved,"  &c.,  517 
H.  (F.  D.)  on  archery  ver.  musketry,  873 

"  Not  lost  but  gone  before,'*  373 

Parliamentary  Companions,  372 
U.  (G.)  on  hawk  and  handsaw,  358 
H.  (G.  U.)  on  the  Rev.  W.  Wickenden,  522 
H.  (G.  J.)  on  Abp.  Bluckburne,  226 

Feltham  family,  217 

James  Hay,  Earl  of  Carlisle,  117 
H.  (U.)  on  apocryphal  genealogy,  508 

Tyke,  tike,  536 

Weston-under-Lyzard,  co.  Stafford,  274 
H.  (H.  J.)  on  deer  used  in  &acii5ce,  117 

St.  Winell.  221 
Higgen,  or  De  Hygon  family,  340 
Higgens  (Godfrey),  })ortraIt,  469,  518 
Higgin  (James)  on  sundry  queries,  241 
Higgins  (W.  F.^  on  stamp  used  for  the  sign  manoal, 

287 
Hilton  (William)  of  Bidicke  and  Wm.  Bulleyn,  467 
Himalayan  botany,  443 
History  repeating  itself,  532 
H.  (J.)  on  "  Flora's  Lament  for  her  Charlie,**  413 

Clare's  Remains,  170 

•*  Fye.  gae  rub  her,"  &c.,  347 

Moultrie  (Rev.  Mr.),  307 

Water  as  a  turnFpit,  63 
H.  (J.  A.  J.)  on  *'  To  play  hell  and  Tommy,*'  118 
HjalUHn  (J6n  A.)  on  Pig  killing  at  the  waning  of  the 
moon,  297 

Staith,  or  Staithe,  284 

Throwing  potsherds  on  doors,  284 

Throwing  the  slipper,  257 
H.  (J.  0.)  on  Haliwell  priory,  118 

Prober,  a  clockmaker,  38 
H.  (L.  L.)  on  clerical  knights,  79 

Reddie  (James  and  John),  83 
H.  (M.)  on  the  Devil's  nutting  day,  166 

Willis  (Browne),  manuscript,  1 5 
Hobbedehoy,  its  meaning,  147 
Hodgkin  (J.  E.)  on  the  Death  of  bibliomaniacs,  385 

Homer  and  his  translators,  60 

Miserere  earrings,  47 1 

"Rede  me  and  be  not  wrothe,"  213 

Speel,  a  provincialism,  103 
Hogarth  (Wm.),  "  Modern  Midnight  CooTersation,  22; 


Hu,^r,tl,«r„r«-u,iK"r,l,o,l,-,^ 
H«.kerClI.ri,)„„,L,.  ,,„„,,;.„„ 
H.igper(lJp.  J,,l,i,).  U,ril.|-U.-o   ail 
Hooptr  (Ui.;lianl)  ga  tinr-^  S.iii.fj,' 
Hope,  ■  Scotii.li  Hin.iiiiic,  403 
Hupp.,  CW.R.)«n  ,(,..«„(  .hi,,., 
narua  (uil  liis  Fili'ani  31l> 
UuriN(Bp.  Sanioen,  fiimilv  141    3. 

Runurj  church,  iipiilciin.1  brasa  2s 
Hone,  burying  tha  deal,  401       ' 
Hnn»-«hii»,  t  gi^n  of  goid  luck,  293 
Hot  eiickla<,  «  gmnt,  263 
Uotch.pat,  origin  uf  tha  ntrna,  tHQ 

409,  ail 
Bout  or  Lordi,  lr.>danbl 


S70    ' 


1831,  SSI,  303,  349, 


■■"Sctollit,  318,  375,  411 
Hoor-itW  iiMimiKion,  OS 
gBWimi  family  of  llnuatun,  40"  473 
H«™J"  (Ibfar  «()  ■■  CJ.f«,J„r.  "  S5U 

H«r«J  ( J^o^  .n,:r.Tii,f ,  ■■  Vmti,,-  .  l^bwr".  prUo..." 

H«»l*t  (W.  E.)  on  tarial.  in  F,rJ«»,  98 
a.  t&)  on  tiro  remarkable  in«ri|4i<Mi,.  IS8 

tl>  (&  H.  A.}  00  Bnptiamil  uiDOg  il 

Q*mt  aa  OtnU.  Hi 

Ubhtn  bough,  477 
_  ,  1?™"^  toirar.  in  N«fUk,  4SS 
H.  (T.  D.)  „  U„.  S.q>ha.,.-  „,«Ii,i,«  84 

HunilngdunJjlr.,  ir.  bi.107,  341,  309,  393 


Index  Snpplement  to  the  Kotet  nnd  ) 
guerles,  with  Ma  230,  Jn)y  27, 1872.  f 


INDEX. 


561 


Jaines  (R.  N.)  on  Kupert  (Princp),  arms,  370 

Pitillan  (Le  Cunite  de),  455 
Jajdee  on  RUi  Hml  Pelli,  350 
Jajtee  on  "  Mistletoe  Bough/'  142 
J.  (C.)  on  Loril>Lieuteiiarit,  lU  plural,  220 
J.  (E.)  on  Cromwell  rtlic«,  75 

Beer-jut;  inscriptj.ins,  250 

KeLvu'^i  death,  207 

Nonsuch  palace,  208 

Wriirhi'a  "  Domestic  Manners  of  the  E      ish,*'  454 
Jenner  (Edward),  M.D.,  proposed  memorial,  bG 
Jeremiah  (J.)  on  D.ivid:  Davit,  45 

Excommunicaticn.  n  copy  of  une,  85 

Houseling  cluth?,  318 

Irish  fi.lk  lore,  Sr.  Patrick,  135 
Jervis:  Jarvin,  its  pronunciation,  100,  207,  287 
Jew:  meaning  of  tiie  verb  "  To  Jew,"  318 
Jewish  mezuzah,  261,  302 
Jews-harp  =  jaws-harp,  ISO 
J.  (G.  S)  on  Mr.  Pitt  and  Taiitus,  384 
J.  (J.)  on  shillT-.-halljr,  285 
J.  (J.  C.)  on  "'The  B.uir  Hunt,"  319 

Burns  (Robert),  book  with  his  bignaturc,  371 

Cipher,  an  cUi,  444 

Lens  (Bernard)  and  his  son.%  36 

Marlboruugh  (1st  Duke  uQ,  miniature,  485 

Print  query,  73 

Roman  te^era,  240 

Kupert  (Prince),  his  arms,  38 

Sobiei^ki  (J.),  king  of  Poland.  221 
Jocelyn  (Sir  Conyers),  pedigree,  426,  477 
Jnhan  on  Derby  or  Dai  by,  99 
John  de  Bergh  (llub«^rt)  on  Hubert  de  B'lrirh.  286 
Johnson  (Dr.  Samuel),  a  scatf-takcr,  87 ;  Latin  Alcaic 

Ode,  482 
Johnstone  (Sir  Ricliaid),  family,  360,  414 
Joke,  a  worn  one,  298,  373 
.fones  (Inigo)  and  the  Earl  of  IVmbroke.  535 
Junes  (Col.  John),  the  regicMe,  426,  490 
J.  (0.  S.  J.)  on  Sir  Koberi  Peat,  225 
Joule  (B.  St.  J.  B.)  on  illuminaliui:,  185 

Scott  (J.)  of  Spanish  Town,  221 
Jodicial  honour,  253,  338 
Juoii  Nepos  on  Dorsetshire  folk  lore,  175 

Dorsetshire  rammilk,  186 

Marriages  of  English  princesses,  46 
Junius  Letters,  CI  it iral  articles  on   tlain  by  the  Lord 
Chief  Justice,   28;    ^Ym.    Buike,  a  claimant,    71; 
handwriting,  459 
Jupiter  Apenninus,  bis  temple,  153,  224 
Justice,  the  scales  of,  1 1 
J.  (W.)  on  Admiral  Bigh,  534 

K 

K.  (A.  J.)  on  Scotti>h  iron  money,  144 

K.  (A.  0.)  on  the  Ked  Cross.  Hcrrford,  301,  372 

K.  (C.  S.)  on  Miss  Ivd^ewuith's  autobiograplir,  101 

"  Eileen  Aro-.n,**  197 

Laird  of  Cuiliehill,  360 

Lenten  custom,  395 

Scottish  reiouni,  87 
K.  (E.)  on  the  Ber.  Bit  hard  Selby,  361 
Kean  (Edmund),  unpublished  witticism,  296,  349 
Kcble  (John)  and  parallel  passaaea,  158,  237 
Keightley  (T.)  on  Bounj  Clapper,  296 

'*  Secret  Societies  of  the  Middle  Ages,"  541 


Keilie  earldom,  501 

Kemp,  its  derivation,  18 

Kennedy  (H.  A.)  on  a  Fiench  chanson,  100 

Lady's  maid,  a  man  in  femali*  attire,  385 

Mary  Queen  of  Scots'  p.ieins,  1G5 

Napoleon  on  board  the  Northumberland.  123 

Boche  (Sir  B..ylc),  367 

ShaksjHfare,  contemporary  citicism,  237,  329 

Unbaptiseii  child,  24 
Kent,  its  four  hundreds,  184 
Ketchup  or  catsup,  origiu  of  the  name,  279 
Kethe  (William),  his  psalms,  58 
Kett  (Kev.  Henrv)  of  Trinitv,  Oxford,  379,  448,  517 
K.  (G.)  on  *•  Adim  Blair,"  445 

"The  Table  Talker,"  416 
K.  (H.)  on  national  characteristics,  408 
Kiddle-a-wink,  a  Cornish  ale-hou^e,  19 
King  (Edward)  on  the  Crozier  family,  319 
King  (Henry)  on  Ovid  **  Melam.  xiii.  254-5,"  230 
King  (Cupt.  S>iinuel),  Narrative  of  Sir  W.  Haleigh, 

239,  309,  350 
King  (P.  S.)  on  "  Apropos  de  Bottcs,"  72 

Boustnipa,  92 

Fir.Ht  new.««pnper  report  ly  telegraph,  91 

Gates  of  Somnauth,  34 

Singular  custom,  174j 

Woolwich  dockyard,  115 
King  (Thomas  \Vm.),  York  herald,  death,  131 
Kipling  (J.),  his  foundry^  319 
Kirkby  Malhaindale,  mural  dicorations,  72 
Kissing,  lines  on  by  Dr.  Win.  Strode,  77,  245 
K.  (K.)  on  Knarr:  Wryde,  145 
Klaus  (Mr.),  the  prince  of  smokers,  466,  524 
Knaresborough  Fore^t,  its  hi.>tory,  376 
Knarr,  its  meaning  and  deiivation,  56,  145 
Kuight  (G.  H.)  on  equivocal  relationsliip,  240 
j  Knigbt  of  Morar  on  l^dy  Jane  Dundas,  200 

Colours  nailed  to  the  masT,  426 

"  Flesh'd  thy  maiden  sword,"  325 

Hans  Place  hoax,  340 

Napoleon  at  Waterloo,  538 
Knights,  clerical,  79 

Knights  Hospitallers,  lands  in  Bedfordshire,  506 
Knollys  (Lettice),  daughter  of  Sir  Francis  Knollvs,  €5 

147 
Knowles  (E.  H.)  on  papal  bulls,  428 
Kuoz  (John),  Psalter,  239 
Knuckleliones,  a  game  fdayed  by  schoolbojs,  201 
K.  (P.)  on  PnTntz  family,  105 
K.  (W.)  on  ••As  btrai^^ht  as  a  die,"  119 
Kybbett  (Thoma?*),  pocmn,  502 


L.  on  prompters*  translations,  357 

L.  (A.)  on  christening  bit.  129 

Ladder,  walking  under  one,  317 

*•  Ladies'  Monthly  Museum,"  388 

Ladies  on  horseback,  542 

*'  Lady  Jane  Dandas,"  foundered,  200 

Lady's  maid,  a  male  returned  conrict.  385 

L.  (A.  E.)  on  Nicholas  de  Moaux,  3S7 

Lafargue  (P.),  AL  D.,  427 

Lahrbush  (Capt.  Fred.),  his  longevity,  54,  337 

Lairg,  Lnrgs,  l^argo,  origin  of  the  names,  485 

Lamb  (Mary),  her  insanity,  92 

Languedoc,  roil  of  Philip  VI.,  118 


562 


INDEX. 


r  Index  Soppmsent  to  tlia  Notci  sal 
t  (juericf.  with  So.  no,  July  ST.  Ittl; 


L.  (A.  K.)  00  SternholJ  and  Hopkins,  170 

Latin  Unguagc,  its  change  ur  declension,  41 

Latiin^  (J.  J.)  on  Oul.  John  Jones,  426 

Laun  (Henri  vhu)  on  *' A  Hfsidence  in  France,"  301 

Lu}  cauma  on  Bubbles  in  Shakspearo,  494 

Touching  glasses  when  drinking  healihs,  541 
L.  (B.)  on  bows  in  bonnets,  184 

Nicholas  de  Mcuux,  515 
L.  (B.  I.  L.)  on  Houston  of  Houston,  407 
L.  (C.  D.)  on  Swift's  ''Gulliver's  Travels,"  342 
Leacbnian  (F.  J.)  on  burial  customs,  425 

Clerical  Ifngevity,  241) 

Marriage  rcgi^ters,  their  defects,  345 

Oxford  Prayer  I)>v.ks,  errors,  384 

rurliainent  oak,  530 

rcrniaiuMice  of  marks  or  brands  on  trees,  504 

IJed  deer,  A'2S 
LeadenhuU,  origin  of  the  name,  427 
Lee  (F.  (1  )  on  Dr.  Youmu's  step-daughter,  03 
Lee  (Sir  ll.rliard),  jiarciitage,  427,  494 
Lees  (Kdwin)  on  enclosure  of  Malvern  Chase,  298 
Legal  intcrpri^tation,  23'J 
Legambihs  noticed,  180 
Leicester,  its  history,  131 
Leigli  (Ciiasles),  death,  108 
Lemon  (Muik),  sonj,  1 19 
Lenfesty  (.Mrs.),  a  ccntenarixn,  54 
Lcniiian  (Mu'.irice)  on  Anna  Holey n's  birthplace,  12 

Arrowsniith  (Father),  his  hand.  4;J0 

L'uis  X\'l.,  ebony  poi trait,  120 

Phonetic  spelling,  5u5 
Lens  (Bernard),  miniature  painter,  30 
Lenten  custom,  320,  395 
Lepil  family,  506 
Leslie  (Jume^),  noticed,  319,  340 
Letters,  curious  addresses  on,  21;  unanswered,  196 
Levelis  family  of  Barbadoc?,  201,  270 
Lewis  (Jiiikin),  his  nianu-crij.ts,  534 
Lewis  (Mary  G.),  p^:ctess,  320 
Lexington  Paptrrs,  original  MSS..  30,  lU4 
Leyden  (Luc:is  van),  "  Mahomet  killing  Sergiua,"  73 
L.  (F.  J.)  on  curious  epitaj'hs,  483 
Libraries,  cirliest  ciroulaliiig,  442;  monastic,  220,  245 
Liddell  and  Scott's  Lexicon,  error  in,  407 
Lignum  (Dr.),  a  (juack  medical  man,  '200,  453 
Lincoln,  the  Jew's  house,  252 

Lincoln  (Eli7.al»eth  Countess  of),  death  and  burial,  407 
IJoness  in  heraldry,  420 
Liquids,  sejuration  and  tninsmutation    of,  235,  323, 

410,  470,  521 
Literary  Fun-l,  its  anniversary.  377 
Liver,  or  Glos^y  Ibis,  a  bird,  292 
Liverpool,  origin  of  the  name,  83 
L.  (J.  A.  S.)  on  '*  A  pretty  kettle  of  fish,"  102 
L.  (L.)  on  lloustou  of  Houston,  473 
Llandaff,  arms  of  the  Rce,  387,  453 
Lockhart  (J.  G.),  tale,  "  Adam  Blair,"  445,  518 
"  Lockbley  Hall"  parodied,  471,  518 
Loftie  (W.  J.)  on  a  bible  of  1091,  137 

Bibb  in  Scripture,  456 
London,  its  population  in  1660,  02;  early  maps,  95; 
city  gates  sold,  332;  Sessions  Papers,'  362;  topo- 
graphy, 377;  a  manuscript  history  of  it,  468;  city 
state  barges,  199,  251;  Visitation,  1633-4,  140; 
Mayor  in  1335,  321 
London  Corporation  library,  172 


London  UniYereitj  and  a  faculty  of  music,  469 

*'  Long  Meg  of  Westminster,  Life  of,"  67 

Longevity,  remarkable  cases,  40,  A4,  107,  130,  175, 

184,  217,  223.  249, 323,  336-338,  441,  533 
LoDgfelluw  family,  43 
Lord- Lieutenant,  iu  plural,  220,  249,  283,  326,  373, 

432 
Loredani  family  arms,  138,  167 
Lorrequer  (Harry)  alias  Charles  Lever,  21 
"  Lotliaire  "  anticipated,  503 
Lough  Fea.  catalogue  of  its  library,  397 
Louis  XVI.,  ebony  portrait.  54,  120 
Loutherbuurg  (J.  P.  de)  the  panoramist,  523 
"  Love,  this  idle  business,'*  a  pf«m,  501 
Lowe  (Solomon),  literary  labours,  89 
Lowther  tablet  in'Catterick  church,  485 
L.  (P.  A.)  on  Addresses  on  letters,  21 
"  X  propos  de  botte-s"  145 
Breton  (Madame  le),  391 
BuriaU  in  gardens,  348 
Caroline  (Queen),  funeral,  44 
Campbell  (Sir  Colin),  491 
Change  of  baptismal  name,  100 
Coleridge  (S.  T.),  letter,  353 
Dining  h.  la  Russe,  488 
Ecouen,  540 

Edward  of  Salisbury,  453 
♦*  First  in  talents,"  &r.,  145  ;^ 

Free  translation.  197 
French  ship  TOrient,  238 
Genlis  (Madame  de),  11 
History  of  the  Vaudois,  489 
Inscriptions  in  old  books,  187 
Ladies  on  horseback,  543 
"  Le  Cure  de  Puntoise,"  492 
Luther's  handwriting;,  511 
"  Make  a  bridge  of  gold,*  &c.,  492 
Morteaulx,  a  game,  280 
Napoleon  on  board  the  Northumberland,  124 
Ober-Ammergau  Passion  PUy,  519 
Phenomenon  of  the  sun,  20 
Plautus,  hu  birthplace,  224 
Sackville  (Thomas).  Lord  Buckhonit,  505 
Kupert  (Prince),  arms,  281 
Sealing-wax,  347 
Seabi  of  Oliver  Cromwell,  1 84 
Stafford  family,  416 
Tudor  house  at  \Yimbledon,  264 
Lubbock  (Sir  John)  on  "  Felis  catus,**  532 
Lucifer  matches,  their  inventor,  53,  201,  229,  290 
Lundy  Island,  works  on,  118 
Lusby,  near  Spilsby,  inscription  on  a  brass,  389 
Luther  (Martin),  memorials  destroyed,  252,  328;  his 

Bible  in  the  Vatican,  427,  51 1 
L.  (NV.  B.  IL)  on  origin  of  the  name  Tichborne,  69, 148 
!  L.  (NV.  J.)  on  longevity,  184 
I  L.  (W.  T.)  on  Wm.  Bardolf:  Hephall,  218 
,  Lychnidea=phlox.  a  llower,  85,  148,  226 
I  Lyttleton  (Lord)  on  Lord  Chatliam  and  sugar,  189 
Hear  I  bear!  230 
"Join  issue,"  14 

Leadership  of  the  House  of  Lords,  305,  870 
Longevity,  249 
Lord-Lieutenant,  249 
Milton*s  use  of  the  superlative,  143 
Misletoe  Bough,  46 


Index  Bapvlcmcnt  to  the  Notes  and  t 
Queries,  with  No.  S38,  Jnly  37, 1873.  f 


INDEX. 


563 


Lyttleton  (Lord)  on  Napoleon  on  boaril  the  Northum- 
berland, 1,  29,  60 
Unicorn's  head  exhibited,  119 
Lyttleton  (Wm.   Henry,   3rd   Lord)   interviews   with 
Bonaparte,  1,  29,  50 

Miicaulay  (Lord),   enigmn,    38,    86;    and    the    New 

Zealander,  343,  396 
Mac  Calloch  (Kdgar)  on  Mrs.  Lenfcsty'b  longevity,  54 
Mac  Donald  (J.)  on  Martin  Guerre,  54 
Mac  Grath  (T.)  on  Shakspeariana,  4 1 3 
Maclay  (J.  W.)  on  John  Howard  Payne,  154 
Maclean  (Sir  John)  on  English  GiKiii,  &c.,  31 

Gilltert  (Charles  Sandoe),  141 

Mural  decorations,  Trevalga  church,  52 

Parish  regi%»ters,  315 

Purgy,  a  provincialism,  310 
]Maclise  (Daniel),  pictures,  105;  bkeiches  of  Sir  Walter 

Scott,  34) 
Macphail  (D.)  on  ♦'  To  tinker,"  475 
Macqueen  (J.)  on  Staith,  a  pruviuciiilism,  100 
Macray  (J.)  on  Chaucer'tt  knowledge  of  Italian,  286 

Hensel  (Luise),  «  Naclitgebei,"  309 

Loan  of  books  daring  the  middle  nges,  463 
Magrath  (Cornelius),  the  Irish  giant,  359 
BLiharg  on  French  and  Flemish  emigrants,  23 
Maier  (Michael),  *•  Atalanta  Fugiens,"  132 
Mdki^ocheir  on  "  Carpathian  wizard's  hook,"  37  ^ 

Dix  (John),  365 

Games,  liot  cockles,  &c.,  262 

Influence  of  diet  on  life,  2S0 

Junius  Letters,  71 

Monltrie  (Ittr.  John),  370 

Myfanwy,  Wel»h  name,  138,  225 

Signs  of  summer,  135 
Malvern  Chace,  its  enclosure,  298,  435 
Man  a  microcosm,  91,  326;  syuibolization  of  his  four 

ages,  445 
Maugham,  origin  of  the  name,  82 
Manson  (Mrs.),  authoress,  1 18 
Manuel  (J.)  on  *'  A  light  Christmas,"  84 

Black  rain,  489 
Manure,  its  pronunciation,  25,  22G 
Manuscript  pieces  inedited,  500 
Manuscripts,  ancient,  525 
Manx  quotations,  94 
Mappi  Mundi.  a  MS.,  507 
Mar  earldom,  501 
Mare,  iu  pronunciation,  281,  325 
Marine  aquarium,  131 
Marks  family,  co.  Monmouth,  360 
Marlborough  (Ist  Duke  of),  miniature  portrait,  485 
Mamey  (Brigitte  Mary),  her  seal,  338 
Marriage  custom  in  the  island  of  Teloe,  174;  throwing 

the  slipper,  257 
Marriage  law  before  the  Council  of  Trent,  535 
Marriage  registen?,  their  defects,  277,  434 
Marriage  with  a  deceased  wife's  siater,  75,  163 
Marsh  marigold,  85,  148 
Marshall  (t:.)  on  *'  Assidua  stiUa  sazum  excavat,"  306 

Barns  and  Keble,  523 

**  Catus  amat  pisces,"  266     *  • 

Chaucer  family,  436 

Eyana  family  of  Eyanstone,  284 

Femn  (George),  250 


Marshall  (E.)  on  Keble  and  Bums,  329 

*'  Nam  nftil  est  gemmis,"  144 

Scutari  us,  524 

Sculptures,  mediaeval,  455 

'*  Sphsera  cujua  centrum,"  &c.,  265,  412 

Wickham  family  of  Abingdon,  145 

Windebank  fam'ily,  394 
Marsham  (R.)  on  Anne  Buleyu's  Book  of  Devotions, 

137 
**  Mary  Anne,"  a  republican  toast,  38,  374 
Mary  Queen  of  Scotj»,  entries  of  her  in  the  Canongate 
register,  26,  127;  "  Lamentation,"  95,  149;  Poems, 
164:  '*  Historie,"  edits.  1624,  1626,  262 
"  Mary  Rose,"  on  the  curfew,  202 
Mary-le-bone,  oiigin  of  the  name,  160 
Mason  (C.)  on  Governor:  Viceroy,  2G6 

Guillotine  in  1872,  237 

Hudson  (Sir  C.  Villavince),  469 

*'  Lea  pi6tres  deport  eV'  ^69 

Peck  (Rev.  Samuel).  445 

Woodward  (Dr.  Josiah),  263 
Mason  (VVm.),  poet,  his  birthplace,  277 
Mais,  persons  indicted  for  hearing,  a.d.  1580,  440 
Masson  (Gustave)  on  Miss  Edgeworth,  101 

Leon  Gantier's  **  Chanson  de  ItoUnd,"  233,  399 
Mast,  colours  nailed  to  it,  426 
Master  of  the  Leash,  427 
Match  tox  bill.  535 
Matchwick  (W.)  on  BriCr,  a  dish,  19 
Matrimonial  adrertisements,  358 
Matthews  (Mr.)  his  publications,  160,  210 
Maurice  (Rev.  F.  D.),  letters,  350  ^ 

Mauthe  dog,  360,  415,  490 
Mauther,  its  derivation,  95,  167,  207,  285.  348 
Maxwell  (\V.  S.)  on  Maclises  Sketches,  341 
Major  of  London  in  1335.  321 
M.  (C  )  on  nii:>ereFe  carvings,  473 

Wimborne  minster,  476 
M.  (C.  R.)  on  Washington  family  arms,  302 
M.  (C.  W.)  on  "  Ballad  of  Burdens,"  618 

lolanthe,  475 

''  Locksley  Hall "  parodied,  518 
Md.  (J.)  on  New  Zealander  and  London  Bridge,  343 
M.  (E.)  on  monastic  inventories,  432 
Meaux  (Nicholas  of),  bishop  of  Man,  387,  515 
Medal,  tli«  Duke  of  Cumberland  and  Hanover,  26;  "Ad 

Kerkliolm,  1605,'*  201 
Medals,  miliury,  75 
Medical  degrees,  212 

Mengs  (Raffaelle),  picture  attributed  to  him,  470 
Mennell  (P.)  on  John  Jackson,  It.  A.,  300 

Blasting  rocks  first  introduced,  533 
Menvil  (Ninian)  of  Slechwi^h,  his  family,  300 
Meriasek  (St.),  bis  life,  310 
Mermaid  captured,  339 
Messiah'&sanointed,  335 
Metapontum,  its  ruins,  293 
Metcalf  family  genealogy,  31 1 
Mezuzah,  the  Jewish,  261,  302 
M.  (G.)  on  "  Biblioth^ue  unirerselle  et  Revue  sniaie,*' 

386 
M.  (Geo.  A.)  on  the  invasion  of  Switzerland,  146 
M.  (G.  T.)  on  Sir  Thopas,  39 
Micklethwaite  (J.  T.)  on  miserere  carvings,  472 
Middle  Templar  on  Brougham  anecdotes,  250 

Hotchpot,  306 


iliwrerfs  ill  \\„,,.^  . '    !'."'"■  "'*■'' 

,,,*'?;  C.  B,.u„|,.,;,,V"'^''';;';A"..  191,  Ji 

Uii'e  tiT«rn  M.'i   '  ,   "  ""•y,  *'>,  l^d,  J4.) 

Clerk.  (Sir  U'„0  .)„  ,  .      , 
-P-llwr',  Own  kL,  "^   ,     "'  """ff.  51 

"lUdWLib™rr"Sf, 

"Silt's"  "«•!-•■•" 

-     Jf-J*.  tile  rinr,  Hi  '^'  '"I"'^'".  237 

if*""'  "«.i.  K,  S< 

™V.  OMIM  mn,  57   111,.^ 


Tndox  BnppIcinpDt  to  tbe  Notci  and  \ 
guerles,  witb  No.  238,  July  S7, 1873.  f 


INDEX. 


565 


Nash  (R.  W.  H.)  on  Lncifer  mfttrhes,  53 

"  Nee  bene  fecit,  nee,"  &c.,  246 

S«mg  in  praise  of  beef,  53 
Nash  (Dr.  Treadway  KusHell),  34,  95 
NattonHl  chiracterihtics,  408 
Natural,  or  legitimate,  260 

Nanfan  (BriilRis)  of  Birts- Martin,  en.  Worcester,  280 
Najlor  (Charles)  on  tlie  size  of  a  book,  122 

Lexington  pnpers,  104 

Richard  I.,  liis  rapture,  105 
N.  (E.)  on  Marj  Queen  of  Scots,  127 
Nelson  (Horati<\  Lord),  punctuality,  56;   signal,   136, 
184,  188,  542;  picture  of  his  death,    139,    207; 
monument,  504 
Nephrite  on  Dr.  Lignum,  alias  Wood,  360 

Rupert  (Prince),  bis  arms,  128 

Suicido,  .524 
Nero,  eni[)or()i.  and  liis  oysassins,  283 
Nescio  oil  Abbe  Edgewortli,  279 
Nevii»on  (Wm.),  highwayman,  180 
N<-wbhuiii  House,  near  Lireritool,  300 
NewspH]«r  reiiort,  the  first  by  electric  telegraph,  91 
Newspapern,  li^t  of  comic,  479;  Dublin,  406 
New  ton  (Sir  Isaac),  tcientific   papers  at    Cambridge, 

478 
New  Year's  eve  custom,  ^4 
N.  (G.  W.)  on  the  Rev.  George  Alsop,  218 

"  Not  lost,  but  gone  before,*'  522 

Proverb,  263 

Sterohold  and  Hopkins  58 
Nicene  creed,  its  ad.iiiions,  75,  104 
Nichols  (J.  G.)  on  Livery  collar  of  Esses,  527 

Oaken  architecture,  424 

Ostrich  feathers  of  the  Prince  of  Wales,  221 

Seal  of  Pilton  priory,  240 

*•  The  R.'tHM'pective  Review,"  446 
Nicholson  (B.)  on  Burns'  -  "Prentice  Han',"  91 

Denhain  (Sir  Jolin).  hl.^  death,  504 

Shakspeare's  French,  258 

Sdd,  its  earlier  meaning,  516 
Nicholson  (J.)  on  Gumpheon:  Sanlies,  186 
Night  watches  among  ((.silors,  507 
Nixon  (Kev.  M.),  iioitjun»r,  .severe  Fentence,  297 
N,  (J.)  on  G'lVfrnor:   Viceroy,  94 
N.  (J.  G.)  on  Sir  B..yle  RiK:he,  367 
N.  (J.  T.)  en  Sir  Philip  Francis,  1 17 
Noel  family.  34 1 

Nonsuch  palace  in  Surrey,  138.  208 
Norfolk  (Thomas  Mowbmy,  Duke  of^,  portrait,   138, 

221 
Norgate  (T.  S  )  on  Kemp  and  Kemping,  19 
Norman  poetry,  mysteries,  &c.,  139 
Northleigh,  its  Roman  villa,  128,  166 
Northumberland  (John  Dudley,  Duke  of),  descendaots, 

312 
Norwich,  lin*8  on  the  register  book  in  Bi.-^hop'a  Court, 

388 
Nottingliamshire  Visitations.  102 
Nutus  on  the  '*  Office  of  the  Holy  Week,"  428 

Teetotal  verses,  429 
Nora  villa  on  Bp.  Home  of  Norwich,  290 

Newsham  home,  300 
NoveliatH*  fl..wers.  85,  143,  226,  414,  491 
N.  (R.  W.  H.)  on  La  Fontaine,  94 
N.  (T.  S.)  on  Clan  Tartan,  117 
Numerals,  Roman,  320 


N.  (U.  0.)  on  Deker,  a  provincialism,  86 

Stock  and  flute,  24 

Velvet,  its  origin,  162 

Watch  papers,  167 
Nursery  literature,  15 
Nutmegs,  wooden,  a  story,  182,  492 

0 

0.  on  the  Seven  DiaLn,  288 

Oak,  the  parliament,  536 

Oaks  and  beerhes,  fine  old  ones,  507 

Oaken  architecture,  424,  477,  541 

Oakley  (J.  H.  I.)  oo  Bonaparte  at  Waterloo,  469 

Garret  and  Gi'rald.  25 

Guidmnn,  its  meaning,  25 

Harlow  battle,  46 

Legend  of  St.  Dorothy,  518 

Lord-Lieutenant,  283  ' 

Orphanage,  47 

"  To  play  Hell  and  T.Mumy,"  184 
O'Doherty  (Sir  Morgan),  his  maxima,  182,  247 
Oe,  an  inland,  its  plural,  361 
0.  (E.  A.)  on  Lady  Kitty  Hvde,  219 
*«  Office  of  the  Holy  Week,'  428,  489 
Ogar  stone,  360,  430 

0.  (G.  D.  W.)  on  the  Council  of  Ephesns,  75 
0.  (G.  E.)  on  oockroftcbes,  490 
Ogier  •  Pierre),  pottery,  2«0 
0.  (H.  L.)  on  Irish  families,  360 
0.  (J.  L.)  on  a  parliamentary  anecdote,  161 
Oldys  (^Wm.),  MS.  additions  to  hia  Life  of  Raleigh,  350 
Oiiphant  barony,  322,  393 

Olirer  (W.  D.)  on  the  altar  cloths  of  Sf.  Paul's,  416 
O'Lynn  (Comee)  (Hi  Iriah  provincialisms,  513 
O'Mally  (Grana),  noticed,  64 
One-penny,  a  game,  201,  251,  306 
Onions,  Spanish,  intnaiuced  into  England,  484,  524 
Oratario  from  Bowles's  *'St.  Jolm  in  Patmus,"  160 
Orchids,  a  plant,  263 
Orde  family,  195,  268 
Orleans  collection  (»f  pictures,  139 
Onnsby  family  of  Cloghan,  cf\  Mayo,  360,  41 4 
Orphanage,  ita  early  use,  47,  65 
0.  (S.)  on  Whvchcotte  uf  St.  J«hi»'^  108 
Osnabrurk  arms,  466 
Oss,  or  Orse,  its  meaning.  404,  492,  524 
Ostrich  feathers  plume,  13S,  221,  288 
Ottava  rima,  its  intro'Jucer  into  England,*  72 
Ovid,  *'  Metam.  xiii.  254,'    189,  230 
Owen  (Dr.  John),  pedigree,  239,  436 
Owen  (Prof.)  on  longevity,  107 
Oxford  canoes,  76 
Ox-hides  and  cow-hides,  72 


P.  on  heraldic  hedgeho;; ,  38 

P.  (A.)  on  Duke  of  Monmouth,  407 

Paget  (F.  E.)  on  *'  Britons,  strike  home! "  261 

Jacobite  ciphers,  79 
Palestrina  and  the  Mechlin  Use,  104 
Paley  (Dr.  Wm.),  his  eminent  person,  361 
Panadeor  pavade,  181,  246 
P.  (A.  0.  V.)  on  a  bell  candlestick,  279 

Captive's  cofBo  in  prospect,  262 

Dngdale'a  *'  Monastionn,'  506 

Else,  a  prr'per  name,  219 


r«t 


riiLlj,  a- 


,.-),  »■ 


.-,T.  41!! 


in  (A1».)  oil  BW'k.  or  Hiuak  Oani»>T.  1: 

Invenlor  «t  liU'ifer  ni^iubra,  -Jill 
I'ltliftn  OD  Ibe  I'urijib,  3:i9 
lltlanon  (W.  IL)  on  »i-a  It^ll'otir,  394 

Grey  Friiw  of  ll.'Tnukiin,  51M 
Fix  oa  Kfnip=lo  ttrire,  19 
Tajnt  (J.)  ea  tlic  finul  <  in  eailj  Engliili,  jlO 

Uuura,  iU  proiiuutiilioti,  S35 

Uarj-l«-bonr,  iU  ninnii'E,  ItJl) 

Ojiltn  fur  aUtrm,  ITS 

FajM  (JubD  Howard). "  Home,  nt*t  home,''  IS-I 

P.  (C.)  on  Fulm  cii.,  9S 

P.  (D.)  DD  bouieling  clutlu,  411 

•■  Gradu*  ad  Fanntuum."  432 

Kelt  (Rer.  H*dit).  of  Trinilj,  OifuiJ,  448 
FtMOck  (Bdward)  on  Allen  :  Pouadcr,  4S4 

BoDDd*,  45 

Booka  ItuC  daring  tiio  middle  *gti,  Silt 

Cbriitian  names,  SIO 

DaftudeciprDLIbll,  S6G 

Flmnt*  00  priiite  stala,  397 

Folk  kni  Pisa,  354 

Oannioa— a  aimpltton,  367 

Hand  rf  Gliirf,  4SS 

Uan,  panou  iuditlcd  for  hearing,  44U 

lbnuidi,339 

Old  changM  of  meaning,  ISS 

Onh  hmil;,  3&8 

Patkn  (William),  390 

fiami^  abbey  ehartalarioi,  2911 

ficott  (John),  ioTtntorj  of  bi*  g/K^,  336 

etnehw  (Col.  Archibald),  333 

Tfaentby  manoicripta.  503 

Wimbcrn  mlnitar,  408 

TTiDdibuik  padigno,  331 
Feuaok  (Jamw),  areliitMt,  4S 
FmI  (8.  E.)  oo  gal—gaitljr,  460 
hamn  (E.)  on  muwry  liienlur*.  15 


Index  8tippleiD«nt  to  the  Kotet  and  > 
Queries,  with  No. »»,  Jnlj  37, 1879./ 


INDEX. 


567 


Piggott  (JuIid),  Jan.,  od  Hand  of  glorj,  37G 

MfduDval  seald,  antique  heads  in,  20 

Bed  deer,  521 

Soho  Square,  507 

Stained  f^Iass  windows  at  Altenberg,  390 

"  The  Times,"  leading  articles,  536 
Pightle,  its  meaning,  220,  287 
Pig-killing  and  the  moon,  24 
Pike  (John)  on  "Old  Bugs,"  i.e.  Lord  Eldon,  183 

Bn>ugham  anecdote.s,  195 

Curious  bapti&mal  names,  372 

Fleetwood  House,  Stoke  NewjngtoD,  435 

Waistcost  pocket  a  snaff-box,  83 
Pill=peel,  504 
Pilton  priorj,  its  seal,  240 
Pink  (W.  J.  D.)  on  baroiiies  in  abeyance,  261 
Pius,  their  magical  uses,  354 

Piontowski  (Capt.),  Bonaparte^s  Polish  friend ^  3,  147 
Pitillan  (Le  Comte  «'e),  397,  455 
Pitt  (William)  and  Tacitus,  384 
Pius  IX.,  prajer  for  France,  301 
Pizarro,  its  remains,  481 
P.  (J.)  on  Heron,  or  Heme,  45 
Pk.  on  "Little  Ji)ck  Elliot,"  383 
Places  in  England  and  Wales,  names  of,  525 
Planchd  (J.  R.)  song,  **  With  helmet  on  his  brow,"  15, 

99,  100,  168 
Plautus,  his  birth-pUce,  153,  224 
Plough-day  sermon  and  dinner,  1 74 
P.  (L.  R.)  on  a  nursery  ballad,  300 
Pocklington  (J.  N.)  on  the  fteven  towns  of  Ilolland,  1 45 
Poems,  MS.  volume  of  satirical,  531 
Polo  (Marco),  birds  in  his  arms,  482 
Polperro,  Cornwall,  its  history,  190 
Polyeuctes  and  Lords  Glencall  and  Thynne,  135 
Ponsonby  (H.  F.)  on  Bp.  Berkeley's  giant,  359 

MoDtcalm  (Marquis  de),  129 
Pontiff,  derivation  of  the  word,  446,  516 
Puntoise,  the  Cure  of,  an  engraving,  388,  492 
Pope  (Alex.),  lines  on  his  death,  255;  of  Scottish  de- 
scent, 502 
Porcelain  and  pottery,  marks  on,  190 
Porcelain  figure,  a  Chinese  idol,  507 
Porpoibe  and  salmon  as  articles  of  food,  486,  543 
Portland  (Richard  Weston,  Earl  of),  pedigree,  275, 356 
Portuguese  gold  coins,  227 
Potts  ( T.  H.)  on  the  American  eagle,  238 

Customs  at  sea,  401 
Pounder,  derivation  of  the  name,  389,  454 
Power  (C.  W.)  on  houseling  cloths,  375 
Power  (E.  R.)  on  "  Little  Books  on  Great  Subjects,** 

521 
Power  (John),  his  death.  417 
Powys  (H.  A.)  on  the  Literary   forgeries  of  Fourmont 

and  Ibranicotti,  238 
PoyntEssquare,  483 
Poyntz  family,  38,  105,  150 
P.  (P.)  on  John  Augustus  Atkinson,  299,  492 

Billycock  hats,  517 

Bow  bearer,  26 

Cater-cousins,  517 

Christian  names,  510 

Dining  \i  Ut  Rnsse,  488 

Dunsinane,  its  pronunciation,  206 

Frontispiece  to  an  old  work,  388 
'^  Hell  and  Tommy,"  184 


P.  (P.)  on  Heron  or  Heme,  189 

Horueck  and  Jessamy,  327 

Novelists'  6owers,  85,  491 

Provincial  dialects,  86,  250 
P.  (R.)  on  Iceland,  535 
P.  (R.  B.)  on  boyhood  of  Charles  Dickens,  36 

Bell  inscriptions,  317 

Printed  matter  copied,  19 
P.  (R.  C.  A.)  on  plurals  of  donnouse  and  titmooM,  181 
Presley  (J.  T.)  on  an  old  newspaper,  439 

Swedenborg  quoted,  447 
Princesses,  marriages  of  English,  46 
Pringle  (Sir  Walter),  noticed,  253 
Printers'  errors,  22 
Printers' readers,  151 
Printing,  early,  and  parchment  paper,  31 
Prior  (Matthew)  not  in  orders,  470 
Prise=to  lift,  44  »  r 

Prober  (Mr.),  London  clockmaker,  38 
Progress,  as  a  verb,  26,  103,  188,  307 
Prompters'  translations,  357 
Prophecies  relating  to  EnglanJ,  174 
Proverb  defined,  320 

Froverba  and  Phrasei : — 

A  light  Christmas,  a  light  harvest,  13,  84 

^A  propoe  de  bottes,  72,  145 

As  straight  as  a  die,   119,   185,249,345,448, 

520 
Bears:  "  Are  you  there  with  your  bears?  "  178, 

228,  310 
Better  to  reign  in  hell  tlian  serve  in  heaven,  35 
Cowardly,  cowardly,  custard,  292 
Essex  stiles,  428 

Feasts  of  St.  John  and  Corpus  Christi,  428,  490 
Fetch  a  windlass,  390,  454 
Fiat  juKtitia,  ruat  caelum,  433 
Fools  build  houses,  wIm  men  buy  them,  320, 395 
Gentlemen  of  the  pavement,  476 
God's  mills  grind  slowly.  344 
Gutta  cavut  lapidem,  &c.,  82,    167,  269,  306, 

326,370,414,491,  542 
He  does  not  know  a  hawk  from  a  handsaw,  189, 

358,  514  • 

Hell  paved  with  good  intentions,  260 
Hook  or  by  crook,  77 
In  hot  water,  483,  524 
Join  issue,  14,  128 

Like  the  Walsall  man's  goose,  35,  104 
Make  a  bridge  of  gold  for  a  flying  enemy,  397 

492 
Man  of  straw,  457,  495 
Man  proposetb,  God  disp»eth,  537 
Might  makes  right,  81 
Nothing  can  come  from  nothing,  217,  305,  416, 

520 
Out  in  the  cold,  1 78 
Play  the  bear,  178,  228,  310 
Pretty  kettle  of  fish,  102,  521 
Save  the  mark,  350 
Spit  for  lack  of  mutter,  73 
Swore  by  no  bugs,  58 

The  cloud  with  the  silver  lining,  239,  289,  330 
The  grand  secret,  426,  489 
The  wisdom  of  many,  but  the  wit  of  one,  320 
Time  immemorial,  140, 188 


1  uni»I,iiin,t  „,  Sco[|«nd  in  i:2m,  -i^j 
rUiitabwiMit  of  mcue,  bj  h.r,i  i.kur  ^0l    4--, 
I-iTMl]  (Htnrj).  <I«cmd.iJir<« 
ranlan  cbuign  of  naiiK  38' 

'^.  (W.;  en  "  Addrn*  lo  iIk  Jlummr  "  11 

J|wiiui  TiJii  lu  Noni,ifij.h,  las 

J«JW  (Gcoiire  WWwm),  34i 

Tr«di  long  «,tiiWi^»t,  342 
p.  // n^""  (*'  ■'"'"'J  *99 
Hit  pdvdtr  Kd  cuea,  loa 
•""P  explniiwd,  IS 
JVk«  bMdken.I,lrf,  64 
PcnxUin  6gn™,  sor 
**«^«"pn<.f.  161 


IBnJawi,  S45 
P.(W.P.) 


898 


74 


^.  (W.  S.)  on  ■  rwiutkai,!,  cmi,,.,  " 
P;(ff.  T)«a  StmaeJ  \\\\^_  ^„    q"'  " 


fn(\fx  Ruiii  lemcnt  tn  the  Note*  and  > 
Queried,  with  No.  2::i>,  July  27, 18;'J.  i 


INDEX. 


569 


R.  (A.)  on  Gul.  Jolin  Jones,  tb«  recicide,  490 

DUseuting  miiUKters  in  parltament,  493 

MyfjtnwT,  a  Welsh  beauty,  286,  39C 

Owen  (Dr.  Jolin).  pedigree,  436 

Sublime  Porte,  470 
R.  &  M.  on  a  c»ttou  IkiII,  300 

Finger  cakes,  175,  493 

Line9  on^he  moiitliA,  491 

Mary  R'>se,  the  curfew,  202 

Sugar  and  water  duy,  447 

Snnbol  of  Peiice,  429 
Ritk'lai!*.  tran.<tUtions  into  SpaniMh  and  Italian,  202 
RadeclifTe  (Noell)  on  changeable  liiik,  86 

GoUi-Gojiperado,  507 

Lubbock  (Sir  John)  on  '*  Fi-lia  catu-s"  532 

Time  immemoriii],  188 
Rae  (Peter),  MS.  History  of  the  Presbytery  of  Peopout, 

366 
Rain,  black,  137,  185,  267.  327,  489 
Bamace  (C.  T.)  on  the  Birth-place  of  Enuiiia,  5 

Briddebarg  barony,  214 

"  Catas  amat  pisces,"  266 

Caudine  Forks,  254 

Dunifriesbhire  funeral,  71 

**  Fiat  jnstitia,  mat  coeinm,**  433 

•*  Finia  coronat  opus,"  206 

Genius  defined,  522 

Gentlemen  of  the  pavement,  476 

''God'a  mills  grind  slowly/'  344 

"  GutU  c:ivat  lapidem,"  '£:c.,  269 

Latin  proverb,  82 

**  Man  propoeeth,  God  dispoeeth/'  537 

Metapontam,  its  ruins,  293 

**  Might  makes  right."  81 

Patsago  in  Chesterfifld,  520 

Petilia,  the  cities  of,  461 

Plauturt.  his  birthplace,  &c.,  153 

R:iy*s  MS.  of  the  Presbytery  of  Penpont,  366 

*'  Sphsera  cujus  centrum,"  &c.,  310 

Titchbome,  its  etymology,  206 

**  When  Adam  delved,"  &c.,  415 
Rammilk  cheese,  85,  86 
RHm>ey  Abbey,  241,  290 
Randolph  (Herbert)  on  BurnMana,  144 

Bribery  and  kissing,  1 59 

Caroline  (Queen),  her  funeral,  78 

Longevity,  36 

Man  a  microcosm,  91 

Nelson's  celebrated  H^n>il,  136 

Polyeuctes  and  Lords  Glengall  and  Thynne,  135 

Psalm  cix.,  171 

Storks:  Cervantes,  216 

Wellington  (Duke  of)  and  Bi^hup  of  London,  101 

Whychcotte  of  St.  John's,  287 
Ruiz-des-Vaches,  its  meaning,  220,  289.  328,  414 
Ratcliffe  (T.)  on  "  As  straieht  as  a  die,"  135 

Baldarsbra,  a  flower,  159 

Black  rain,  185,  267 

Bows  in  bonnets,  247 

Cunip-pencil,  45 

Eve  of  May-dav,  401 

Folk  lore,  135' 

Healing  by  the  touch,  401 

Kean  (Edmund),  296 


Batoliffe  (T.)  on  Lucifer  instches,  their  iuTentor,  229 

Mary  Queen  of  Sc^t^i*  Lamentation,  95 

"  Mary  Ann/'  a  toast.  374 

Nutmegs,  wooden,  492 

R«bins,  superstition  about,  24 

St.  Valentine's  D«iy  customs,  135 

Seven  townn  of  Holland.  77 

Shell -fish,  their  claw;<,  243 

Sir  Topas,  375 

Song  in  praise  of  ))eef,  127 

Symbol  of  peace,  515 

"  The  Pathwav  to  Canaan,"  403 

'*  The  Storm-Spirit  of  Scutari,"  202 

Throwing  of  the  hood,  158 

Wanhing  hand*  and  the  »Agn  of  the  cross,  45 

Weather  lore.  349 
R-ivensbourne  on  fictitions  names  of  authors,  91 

French  literature,  534 

Ninon  de  I'Enclof  and  Diane  de  Poictiers,  427 

Story  of  a  sculptor,  429 
Ravenscroft  (Thomas),  •'  Titus  Androricn«,"  422 
Rayner  (S.)  on  a  cure  for  a  sore  month,  401 

Eccentric  method  of  turning,  532 

Pudsey  family,  487 
Rayner  (Wm.)  on  Comic  new-papers,  479 

Trumbull's  picture  of  Bunker'*  Hill,  474 
Rayson  (G.)  on  a  cnre  for  rheumatism,  127 
R  (D.)  on  legambilis.  ISO 
Reaidwin  (T.  A.)  on  Nelson's  signal,  188 
Recollections,  early,  65 
Reddle  (James  and  John),  83 
Rieve  (C.  G.  J.)  on  Dorsetshire  rammilk,  85 
Reeve  (I.  J.)  on  »*  Praises  on  Tombs,"  &c..  490 
*'  Regimental  Drum,"  a  story,  3S9,  491 
Registers,  marriage,  their  defects,  277,  434 
Repack,  its  derivation,  240 
**  Rest  of  Boodh."  a  poem,  428 

"  Retrospective  Review,"  writer  of  the  article  on  "  Cam- 
den's BriUntd  i."  466 
Revolution  of  1688,  right  by  conquest,  181 
R.  (E.  W.)  on  Lettice  Knoljy.o,  65 
Reynolds  (Sir  J<ishus)  and  "  Infant  Hercules,"  333 
R.  (K.)  on  Byron  and  Horace,  159 
R.  (F.  R  )  on  E:iri  of  Ehwx'h  pncket-dial,  9 
R  (U.  H.)  on  the  Heralds'  College  at  Copenhagen,  94 
Rhinoceros  in  the  Zoological  Gardens,  207 
Rich  family  of  Dei  by.  428 
Richard  L,  his  capture,  38,  105 
Richmond,  its  recent  historian,  298 
Riggall  (E.)  on  cheap  bookcases,  37 
Right  (Ellis)    on    passage    from    Spenser's   "Faeri* 

Queene,"  523 
Rimbault  (Count  Bertrand),  160 
Rimbanlt  (Dr.  F^  F.)  on  the  Lord  Boqneki,  247 

Ballad  of  Flodden  Field,  265 

Ballad  on  Sir  Wm.  Davenant's  "  Cruelty  of  the 
Spaniards,"  49 

Buvey  (Mrs.)  and  the  three  choirs,  136 

Egertoo  (Lady  Alice),  247 

Ferrers  (George),  196 

Gainsborough  as  a  musician,  39 

Hatton's  '*  New  View  of  London/'  118 

Blary  Queen  of  Scotb'sappoeed  ^  I  junentatio  i,**  150 

Meeting  of  the  three  choirs,  206 

Memoirs  of  the  Duke  of  Gloucester,  534 

"  Oar  king  he  went  to  Dover,"  244 


570 


INDEX. 


f  fnHtx  Snppleiiimt  to  the  Wotm  aai 
\  guerlm.  with  Ka  n»,  JWy  tT,  lax 


Rimbault  (Dr.  E.  F.)  on  rbilip  VI.,  roll  of  receipU  of 
Languetloo,  118 
Rimbault  (Connt  Bertrand),  ItiO 
Seven  Dial»,  84 
Sun-dial  insciiption?,  309 
Suiksox  wassailiiif^  sn\^^^  5 
Stro<le  (Dr.  Wiiliaui),  poet,  245 
"  With  helmet  on  his  brow,"  99,  246 
Bimbault  (Stephen  Francis),  mnsiciun,  39 
Itix  (Jose]>li),  M.I>.,  on  Huntingdon  county  histoiy,  309 
Mauther,  a  provinrialibm,  1G7 
Midnight  hymn,  207 
Plant,  Maennertreu,  491 
Rix  (S.  W.)  on  Mauther,  a  ])rr>vincialidm,  1G7 

Score  =  passage  or  alley,  326 
Rizzi,  a  painter,  30l,  350 

R.  (J.  Ck.)  on  the  derivation  of  '•  aired,"  228,  328 
Harrowgate,  its  etymology,  204,  305,  476 
Irish  provincialisms,  475 
Kemp  and  kemping.  18 
MacAulay  (Lord),  New  Zcalander,  396 
Ods,  or  Orse,  492 

pHpineau  (Louis  Joseph)  of  Canada,  213 
Tassie's  seuls,  394 
R.  (L.  C.)  on  "  Hynms  Ancient  and  Modom,"  485 

*'  Yestcrday'h  over,"  &c.,  491 
Robin  redbreast,  its  friendline.<8,  3S5 
Robinson  (C.  J.)  on  the  I^K)th  meniuridl,  277 

Heraldic  hedgehog,  288 
Roche  (Sir  Boyle),  biography,  262,  324,  367 
Rock  blasting  first  introduced.  533 
Roger  (J.  C.)  on  Earl  of  Chatham  and  sngAr,  247 
Rogers  (Dr.  Charles)  on  Sir  Robert  Aytoun,  516 

Lord  Brougham's  ancestors,  3IS;   and  his  friend 

James  Stuart,  357 
Bliur(Adam).  518 
Cowper  (Wm.),  his  ancestry,  484 
Faed's  picture  of  Sir  Walter  Scott,  516 
Pope  (Alex.)  of  Scottish  descent,  502 
Steele  (Mrs.  Anne).  521 
Rogers  (P.  W.)  on  Lord  Chancellor's  state  coach,  219 
Ronsard  (Peter  de),  Ode,  400 
Rc<se  (Rev.  Thomas),  his  living,  484 
R'jsemary,  ?*o«  war/w»w,  104 
R<>blin  Chai)el,  near  Edinburgh,  c.irved  pillar,  457 
Koss  (C.)  on  Junius's  Letters,  459 
Rowden  (Edward)  on  brass  knockers,  55 
'•  Roy's  Wife  of  Aldivalloch,"  Latin  versi-.n.  507 
Rove  (Wm.),  "  Rede  me  and  be  not  wrothe,"  213 
R.  (R.)  on  Sir  Cohn  Campbell,  491 

Stanley  (Sir  Thomas),  373 
R.  (S.)  on  Burns  and  Keble,  2S5 
R.  (T.  W.)  on  the  capture  of  Richard  I.,  38 
Rubens  (P.  P.),  ♦'  Su.sann.ih  and  the  Elders,"  139,  188 
Rudapanthus  (Piince),  his  History,  87 
Rudstone  churchyard,  its  monolith,  20,  102 
Rule  (F.)  on  bell  inscriptions,  373 
Four  children  at  a  birth,  165 
"  Gntta  cavat  lapidem,"  326 
*•  The  curfew  tolls,"  &c.,  436 
Rummage,  its  derivation,  25 
Rumsey  ( Mary  C),  her  works,  486 
Rupert  (Prince),  his  arms,  38,  128,  281,  370 
Rusbton  (W.  L.)  on  Hereditary  hangmen,  136 
Shakspeariana,  197,  462 
•'  Spit  for  lack  of  matter,"  73 


Rotsell  (Armelah),  family  amii,  139 

Buuell  (Lord  John),  retort  on  Sir  F.  Bardett,  467 

Roatell  (W.  P.)  on  bronxe  head  found  in  Bath,  484 

Russell  worsted,  37 

R.  (W.  A.  S.)  on  commercial  qaeries,  37 

Change  of  baptismal  names,  169 

Hundreds  of  Felborough,  Wye,  &c.,  184 

Umbrellas,  97 

Unicorns,  246 

Washington  family,  140 
R.  (W.  F.)  on  quotation  from  Bp.  Berkeley,  186 

Repeck,  iu  derivation,  240 

Sauiies,  its  meaning,  186 
Rytber  (Angostine),  map  of  London,  95 


S.  on  Chinese  vegetables,  300 

Cunningham  (Allan),  biographer,  319 

Findeme  flowers,  1 89 

First  Englishwoman  in  Pekin,  94 

Himalayan  botany,  443 

Manors  in  Beds  and  Salop,  1 4 

"  My  thoughts  are  racked."  &c.,  24.^ 

Progress,  the  verb,  26,  188 

Serjeant,  237 

Shil'ly-shal'Iy,  217 

Skinner's  and  Jacob's  horse,  238 

Solar  topee,  196 

Taafife  family,  15,  168 

Tumuli  at  Edinburgh,  58 
S.  (A.)  on  Fran-IIoIda,  469 

Proverbs.  428 

Roche  (Sir  Boyle),  325 

Switzerland  invaded  by  the  English,  188 
Sage  (E.  J.)  on  Fleetwood  Honse,  362 
St.  Alban,  his  shrine  discovered,  231 
St.  Dorothy,  legend  of,  471,  516 
St.  Ignatius  of  Loyola,  letters,  542 
St.  J.  M.  (H.  A.)  on  Jews-harp,  180 

Pierrepont's  refuge,  260 

Printed  matter  copied,  291 
St.  Meriasek,  his  Life,  310 
St.  Paul's  Cathedral,  altar  plate  88;  its  completioB, 

191, 496,  .545;  altar  cloths,  317,  416,  475 
St.  Swithin  on  bronze  head  found  at  Bath,  543 

Kidlcy-wink,  19 

Pig-killing  and  the  moon,  24 

Stockton,  a  family  name,  543 

Theaster,  a  surname,  27 
St.  Valentine's  Day  cnstoms,  135 
Sula  (G.  A.)  on  Genius  defined,  393 
Hard  labour.  475 

Hear!  hear!  229 
Sali.«»bury  (Edward  of),  pedigree,  313,  453 
Saliabury  (Mary,  ^Marchioness  of),  and  archeiy,  4ci7 
Salt  thrown  over  the  shoulder,  320 
Salt  (Wm.),  library  located  in  Strafford,  S51 
Sandal  wood  used  in  buildings,  95,  166 
Sandars  (H.)  on  Throckmorton  family,  146 
Sandys  (George),  poet,  unedited  notitia,  89 
Sansomes,  church  lands,  77 
S.  (A.  P.)  on  the  Ammergaa  Paasion-PIaj,  452 
Saresons  ground,  its  meaning,  95 
Saturday  Magazine,  its  commencement,  48 
Sanlies  in  funeral  ceremonies,  140,  186,  249 
Sawley  Abbey,  execution  of  the  last  abboe,  4(NS 


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guerles,  wUb  No.  230,  Julj  37, 187S.  f 


INDEX. 


571 


Saxony,  divisions  of  the  state,  408,  475 
S.  (C.)  on  Lord-Lieutenant,  432 

Stafford  family,  342 
Scales  with  coin  weights,  83,  166,  227 
Sc^hool  BoiirJit,  525 
Schrumpf  (G.  A.)  on  Immermann:  Haaff,  485 

Ranz-dea-Vaches,  328 
Scissora,  early  n^ie  of,  160 
Scores  =  alleys,  a  local  name,  161,  225,  326 
Scutch  royalittts,  446 
Scots,  were  they  ever  cannibals?  203 
Scott  (J.)  of  Sj»anish  Town,  221 
Scott  (John),  inventory,  a.d.  15S7,  236 
Scott  (Sir  Walter),  quoted, "  Yonder  is  the  heart  of 
Scotland,"  &c.,  57;  Maclise's  bketches  of  hira,  341; 
Faed*s  picture  of  him  and  his  friends,  405,  516 
Scott  (\V.  B.)  on  Barker  and  Burfords  panoramxi,  523 

**  Finis  coronat  opus,"  22 
Scott  (Rev.  William),  death,  66 
Scottish  ballad  poetry,  191 
Scottishiron  money,  57, 115,  144,  189 
Scottish  justices  of  the  peace,  1630- 1660,  428 
Scottish  poem,  "  AJAx's  Speech,"  &c.,  263,  347 
Scottish  Praver-B.iok  of  1637,  408 
Scottish  retours,  87 
Scrutator  on  "  Arabella's  Ghost,"  261 
Sculptor,  story  of  one,  429 
Sculpture,  Biiii:ih  school,  210 
Sculptures,  mediaeval,  389,  455 
Scutarius  of  a  monastery,  446,  524 
S.  (C.  W.)  on  a  quotation,  475 

**  Secret  Societies  of  the  Middle  Ages,"  359 
S.  (E.)  on  •'  The  Grand  Secret,"  489 
SeA^  customs  at,  401 
Seals  and  coins  reproduced,  202,  268 
Seals  and  gems  copied.  321,  394  • 

Soalri,  antique  heads  in  mediieval,  20;  of  the  kings  of 
Cunnaught,  221;  Pilton  priory,  240;  flowers  repre- 
sented on  mediaeval,  338,  397;  old,  341 
Seaman  (Miss),  publications,  273,  274 
Secoll  (Wm.),  brass  at  South  Leiph,  280,  435 
"  Secret  Societies  of  Middle  Ages,"  359,  435,  489,  541 
Secundus  (Joiiannes),  alias  John  Everard,  400 
Segreant,  heraldic  term,  237,  326 
S.  (E.  L  )  on  Gay  =  wanton,  171 

Hard  labour,  404,  517 

Microcosm,  326 
Selby  (Rev.  Richard)  of  Bitterlees,  co.  Cumberland,  361 
Selden  (John),  "  De  Diis  Syris,"  276 
Seniuc,  origin  of  the  name,  161,  225,  306 
Sepulchral  monuments,  Blue  Book  on,  495 
Svrgeant  (L.)  on  the  Bug  family,  279 

Garret  and  Gerald,  25 

Liquids,  separation  and  transmutation  of,  235 

Lord-Lieutenant,  283,  373 

Milton  query,  395 

Shakspcare,  contemporary  criticism,  282 

Surnames,  290 

Transmutatiun  of  liquids,  410,  521 
Sergius,  or  Boheira  of  Bosra,  his  death,  221,  286 
Sessions  Papers  of  the  City  of  London,  362 
Seven  Dials,  present  locality,  84,  145,  288 
**  Sdven  Joys  of  Mary,"'  a  hymn,  350 
Seward  family,  co.  Devon,  300,  616 
Sewoll  (J.)  on  Blue  Boy  portraits,  10 
S.  (F.  M.)  on  Ar-iiut»,  534 


S.  (F.  M.)  on  Domestic  chapels,  180 

''God  in  the  Generationa of  the  Bighteona,"  118, 
416 

Illumination,  118 

Heraldic  book-plates,  160 

Orchids,  plants,  263 

Reproduction  of  seals  and  coin^,  202 

Stansflfld  (Sir  James),  murder,  119 

Strachan  (Col.  Archibald',  173 
S.  (G.)  on  lines  on  the  month,  388 
S.  (G.  B.)  on  the  King's  Gap,  360 
S.  (G.  J.  C.)  00  the  derivation  of  Sanlies,  249 
Shafto  (Mrs.  Duncombe),  her  longevity,  338 
Shakspeare  (Wm.),  contemporary  criticism  on  his  plays, 
237,  282,  329;  and  the  Bible,  258;  his  ornithology 
examined,  331 

Shakiperiana : — 

Airs  Well  that  Ends  Wdl,  Act  XL,  Sr.  3:  ''  Great 
seas  have  dried,"  339,  413  ' 

Julius  Caesar,  Act  IIL,  Sc.  1 :  "Cry  havock,"  463, 
544 

King  John,  Act  TIL,  S.  1 :  "  Is  cold  tnanity,"  128 

Merry  Wives  of  Windsor,  Act  I.,  Sc.  1 :  "  Past  the 
Car-eires,"  462 

Othello,  Act  IIL,  Sc.  4:  "It  was  a  handkerchief," 
389 

Richard  II.,  Act  IV.,  Sc.    1:  "Stand  on  sym- 
pathy," 462 

Winter*s  Tale,  Act  IV.,  Sc.  3:  "  Shapes  of  beasts," 
197 
Shapwick  monster,  24 
Sharman  (Julian)  on  Mary  Queen  of  Scot«'  poems,  164 

Smythe's  "  Historic  Fancies,"  quoted,  95 
Shaw  (J.  B.)  on  an  ancient  enigma,  82 
Shaw  (S.)  on  Allies' "  Folk  Lore  of  Worcestershire,"  476 

Anonymous  work,  319 

Obcr-Ammergao  Passion- Play,  452 
Shaw  (Stebbmg).  Staffordshire  MSS.,  361 
Sheardown  (Wm.)  on  Van  Weasell's  portrait,  203 
Sheen  priory,  536 
Sbell-fish,  their  claws,  57,  245 
Sherrards  on  the  NeUon  monument,  504 

Stock  and  flute,  24 
Shillingford  (John),  mayor  of  Exeter,  65 
Shilly-shally,  its  derivation,  217,  285 
Siiip:   L'Oi'ient,  its  bullion,  238 
Shipbuilding,  iron,  in  1788,  484 
Ships,  duration  of  duty,  261,  325,  396,  491 
Shirley  (Ev.  Ph.)  on  early  clergy  maintenance,  258 

Flowers  on  personal  mediieval  seals.  338 

Frescoes  at  Fetcham  Park,  307 

Loredani  family  arms,  187 

Stamp  used  for  the  sign  manual,  179 
Shnrthouse  (J.  H.)  on  three  leaves  eaten  for  the  eucha- 

rist,  224 
Shrovetide  custom,  135,  208 
S.  (H.  S.)  on  Dr.  T.  R.  Nash's  memoir,  95 
Shyloc\-,  the  Jew  of  Venice,  origin  of  the  ch.iracter,  157 
Sign  manual,  .^^tamp  u^sed  for  it,  179,  228 
Sims  (Sir  Wm.),  theatrical  agent,  381 
Sinaitic  inscriptions,  161 
"  Sir  "Jopas,"  a  nickname,  39,  875 
S.  (J.  C.  C.)  on  William  Secoll,  435 
S.  (J.  T.)  on  "A  Remonstrance  to  Lord  Brougham," '85 

City  state  barges,  251 


572 


INDEX. 


{Tndrx  5!appl«nmt  to  tlic  NoCct  ud 
Qiwriv*.  with  So,  xm,  JnJy  97,  U71 


S.  (J.  K.)on  William  Baiiol,  17 

Skeat  (W.  W.)  on  U^nuh  =  abonler,  149 

L'Td-L't'Utpnant,  326 
Skelj',  a  pro\!:-.cialiMii,  119,  *i30 
.Skinner 'a  au'l  J.icib'H  h'»rse.  (Iresj*,  238 
Skipt.m  (H.  S.)  <«n  liarUy,  395 

Bfli  in>cri])!i>ii«<,  316 

Dix  (J.lin).  366 

Hand  of  i;l»ry.  238 

llaro  and  Ticlib<»rne.  209 

*•  Histuire  du  Ilaton."  455 

Hniitini:'''On  c«»unry  hisitury,  395 

Malvern  Ciia.so.  435 

MauJhe  d-C,  36U 

Mtutlier,  its  derivatio",  285 

rrovincialiMM.-,  li:),  ls9,  404 

U^hani  bt'nc?»,  431 

Onc-jieiiny  =  j>eiii:y  Mnuo,  306 

*'  iSeci-et  SiK-ietiHs  of  tlu-  .Mivl«:le  Age*,**  435 

Wallin^rer.",  447 
Skit  =»  iaiii|rth)n,  it.*,  deiiv.ilinii.  545 
Skittles,  orij;iii  of  the  wurd,  360.  455 
S.  (S.)  on  Srje.int  =  'Cifn'ini.  326 
Slan^  cxpre««i»ii8  pnwciilMfd,  12 
SM.irke(K.),  picture.  139 
Smith  (Alber).  li?oiary  tru'ns,  277 
Smith  (Dr.  Win.),  "Diitinaiy  ot  ihe  Holy  Bible,'"  334 
Smith  (W.  J.  B  )  on  lieer  u^ed  in  aaciifice,  185 

'*  ile  umde  I  lie  «h•^^•^t  Mnile,'  47 

Hear!   h.-ar!  285 

rer>ecution  «<t  the  IcatlM-ns,  187 

"The  Mi.siletnc  B-neh,"  128 

Walker  (Ciiarle.s  K  ).  372 
SiTiitha  of  ChivhesitiT.  their  eiiliings.  534 
Smyth  family  creat.  470,  518 
Smirk.^  (K.)'on  "  By  h-x-k  or  hy  crook,"  77 
S.  (N.)  ..n  belfrit-a  bhuk.n.d,  -JOD 
Subie>ki  (J.^lin),  a.u.  1  7'.mj.  211.  221 
SK-ii'ti>'s  for  the  Kt-riniiiitioti  ut  Manner:),  202,  2G8 
Solio,  (»n£;in  of  the  woid.  507 
SoUr  topee  hats,  196,  270 
Slid,  as  Ui»ed  by  Ben  Joilsoii,  446,  516 
Soninauth,  it.*<  j^ates,  34 
Sung  and  ballad  detinc<l,  468 

8ong8  and  BaUads : — 

Aiben  Arrjon,  09,  130.  197 

All  tlie  norlda  al  Taria,  418 

A^  I  rovi'J  out  one  suuimfr  motninj;,  62 

As  I  walked  out  one  morning  in  the  bpring,  23 

l>;ir;^»'man's  8on<:,  13 

JJpff,  in  prai>e  of,  53,  127 

Bi'iTiiar's  DaUirhter  of  li.'.inall  Green.  63 

Brave  Betty  was  a  maniin  queen,  127 

Hiiions,  a!iikc  h»nte!  201 

Carrion  crow,  22 

Castle  Hyde  praij>«*d,  62,  170 

Chateau,  Mot  lev,  Ij.iu  and  Bear,  113 

Cherries  and  th'e  H..ly  Family,  117,  210,  375 

Christma.s  carol.  178 

Davenatit  (Sir  Wm.),  Cruelty  of  the  Spaniards,  49 

Dick  of  Taunti.n  Dean,  300,'  397 

Diirsii  und  Biibeli,  114 

Kve^bam  battle.  14 

Fnnny,  blooming  fair,  292 

Farewell  Manche:iter,  88 


Songi  and  Bftllftdi  :— 

Flodden  Field,  S65,  327,  394,  452 

Fye,  giie  rub  Iwr,  240,  283,  347,  397 

German,  "  The  bird*  are  lueirily  ainging,"  388 

Giltr  Coats  Pcgpy,  253 

Hail  I  ColambU,30l 

Home,  tweet  home,  100 

If  I  were  a  little  binl?  442 

Irish  street  ballads,  485 

]t*s  yon  11  take  the  hich  mad,  320.  413 

Just  like  Love  is  yonder  row,  319 

Kilt  thy  coat,  Peppy,  25S 

Lancashire  May  soni;,  402 

Little  Jiick  Elli.it,  383,  490 

Long  Preston  Pepgy.  82 

May  song  in  Lanraahire,  402 

O  where  have  you  been,  Lord  Riiulal?  93,  170 

Oh!  wilt  thou  be  my  b>ide,  K.^thl.en?  119 

Our  captain  callsall  h4iidsnii  Uoinl  to-morrow,  13 

Our  king  be  went  to  Driver,  179,  244 

OntUndiah  knight,  320.  395 

Robin  Adair,  Iriah  air,  99.  130,  197 

Shan-Van-Vocht,  301,  345 

Swiia  songs,  112 

Syddall  (Tom),  llanchei'ter  r*Ufl.  389 

The  Devil  and  Owci  O'CiMinelly,  320 

The  Flower  of  (he  Canti  n  de  Vaad,  1 12 

The  last  Boae  of  Sammer,  100 

The  Stars  and  Stripm,  301 

The  Troubadour  of  M*»unt  Ve>uviu«.  404 

The  Wearing  of  the  Gri-en,  301,  345 

The  Widow  Gregory.  85 

Wassailing  sonc  in  Sukm-z,  5 

Watkin*8  Ale,  496 

Wha  daur  meddle  wi*  me?  3S3.  490 

With  helmet  on  hia  bn>w.  15,  99,  lUO,  1C8.  246 

White  bird  featlieile»v,  125 

\ViIliam  and  Jonathan,  252 
Sotheron  (^Charles)  on  Solheran  t|neriea.  198 
Sotheron  and  Sothem  famillca,  193,  198 
Sp.  on  burials  in  gardens,  98 

Chinese  monumental  inacripiiitna,  72 

Ctkesey,  Throckmorton,  &i-.,  GO,  146 
S[»Hin,  origin  of  the  nanie,  456 
Speaker's  coach,  22 1 

Speddine  (J.)  on  Captain  S.  Kin^H  Xnrr.ttire,  239 
Speed  (Jos.-.).  "  Love's  Tiiumph,"  lUS 
Spet-l,  a  pn>vincialiMn,  21,  103,  217 
SjHfnser  (Edmund),  Conc4irdance  to  hia  Poems,  151 
Spilbbury  (Gybbon),  noticed,  46,  129 
Spirituaiiam  in  1780,  181 
Sp:ini.>h,  its  derivation,  470 
Sp-fforth  (M.)  on  "  The  Squire*  Pew,"  £21 
"Squire's  Pew,"  a  |ioem,  221,  283 
S.  (B.)  on  •'  Testaments  <.f  the  Twelve  pHtriarchs,**  486 
S.  (S.)  on  the  ballad  of  Fhaldeu  Field,  394 

Princess  Elizabeth,  185 
S.  (S.  M.)  on  Lady  Grizell  Baillie,  167 

Boleyn  (Anne),  Book  of  DerutkiOB,  309 

Kdgewortb  (Miaa),  biography,  1 70 

Kleyn  (Mistre>s)  and  Lady  Jane  Gr^j,  200 

Finger  cakes,  325 

"  God  in  tiie  generations  of  the  llightcow,'^  SIS 

Henri  Deux  ware,  148 

Uolbom  FuKioct,  317 


Iiidet  Suppl^fn«»nf.  tn  thf  Nnf f •  nvA  > 
gueries,  with  N».  380,  Juty  r,  1673.  / 


INDEX. 


573 


S.  (S.  M.)  on  Kn-.Ilya  (L«tti»e),  U7 
*•  NiKliiiig  from  NLthing."  520 
Parker  (A>>p.),  *'  De  Aiitiquitate  BritannictB  Ec- 
clettiflD."  424 

Scottish  Prayer. Boc»k.  408 

Waste  piper,  &c.,  441 
S.  (T.)  on  lUrlay.  308 

"  The  Kej;inient»l  Drum,**  491 
StafTurd  familv  of  the  Kaitt  Killing,  342,  416 
Slaith  =  qui.r,  23,  100 
Stanley:  •'  On,  Stanley,  on!'  72 

Stanley  (S-irali)  of  Oianf;e}z;urnian,  parentage,  281,  373 
Stanley  (Ilm.  W.  0.)  on  superstition  in  Anglesey,  255 
StanMtielit  (Sii  Jaitie<«),  hia  inurJer,  119 
Star  and  crescent  (ipvic^  349 
S.  (T.  E.)  on  blue  b]o.xi,  213 

Cfntuiiian  iine^,  4.51 

Gouhismith  (John)  of  Cheshire,  200 

Mowbray  (ThomM>),  138 

Oitrich  feathers  oi  the  Prince  of  Wale^,  288 

Seal  of  the  kinpt  of  Connaught,  221 
Steele  (Mrs.  Anne),  476.  521 

Steele  (Eliza).  "  The  I^.lieV  Library,"  56,  148,  267 
Stell,  its  derivation.  447.  495.  542' 
Stephens  (MrF.),  medicines,' 15,  84 
Stephenbon  (C.  H.)  on  Menin,  Tuum,  et  Suum,  466 
Siereosoopy,  46 

Sternhold  and  Il'^pkitw'  Psahnn,  contribators,  58,  170 
S.  (T.  G.)  on  La.ly  Grizele  Bailiie,  84 

Midloriiian  v«luation  roil,  85 
St«K:k  and  flute  =^1  totalitr,  24 
Stock  Exchange,  its  bears,  228 
Stockton  surname,  iu  derivation.  486,  543 
Stoke  Newingum,   Flt:etwool    House,  &c.,'  296,  362, 

364.  435 
Stone  (W.  G.)  on  unicorns.  437 

Suicide  of  a  Swis.<(,  452 
Storks,  their  hall::*,  216 
Strachan  (Col.  ArchibaM).  173,  228 
Strachao  (Adin.  Sir  Hichard),  408 
S'.radling  family  of  St.  Donats,  470 
Strasburg  nitiniripnl  library,  311,  478 
Street  sayings  of  L->ndiin,  4G3 
Strode  (Dr.  Wni.),  lii.es  on  kissinff,  77,  146,  245 
Strong  (Aifre^i)  on  btere«ieiropy,  46 
Sturdivant  fundly  name,  deriv.ition.  281 
Sublime  P.Tte,  its  mpariuir,  470 
**  Sugar,*'  a  purliamfntary  anecilute,  161,  1S9,  247 
Sugar  And  water  day,  447,  523 

Suicide  :  "  Buttoning  and  unbuttoning.**  320,  452,  524 
Sultan,  how  addressed,  221 
Sun,  phenomenon  of  the,  20 
Sun-dial  iiiscripiionM,  92,  309 
"  Supercheries  (Les),  Littcraires  Di^^oi!^,'*  21 
Surnames,  etymology  of,  24 1 ,  290,  309 
Sassez  (IL  M.)  on  Gybbon  Spilsbury,  46 
S.  (W.)  on  the  Rev.  Anthony  Dividacn,  171 

Luther  memorials,  328 

Shapwiik  monster,  24 
Swedonborg  (Kmanuel),  aphori.Nms,  447 
Sweeting  (\V.  D.)  on  siieel,  a  provincialism,  21 
S.  (W.  H.  F.)  on  Sir  Nicholas  Fuller,  534 
Swift  (Dean  Jonathan),  *•  Gulliver's  Travels,"  342,  434 
Swifte  (E.  L.)  on  «  Aileen  Aroon,*'  130 
Uomer*s  Iliad,  first  Latin  verbion,  838 
Iambics:  bexatDeten>,  316 


Swifte  (E.  L.)on  ^  Nothing  can  come  from  nothiog/'  217 

Pyrrhine  Ode,  1 96 
Swinbnnie  (A.  C),  "  Ballad  of  Burdens  "  471.  518 
Switzerland  invadpd  by  the  English  in  1375,  146,  188 
"  Swonl  Exerii.<e,"  l)y  Capt.  K.  Hinde,  301 
Syddall  (Tom),  song  on  him.  389 
Symbol  of  pe.)ce,  a  brubh,  429,  515 


T.  on  HuWrt  de  Burgh,  330 

Taaife  (Sir  J«»hn)  of  Smarmor,  family,  15,  102,  168 

Taffetas,  thin  kind  of  ailk,  37 

Taelioni  (Mari.*),  the  famed  dancer,  332 

Tailors  of  To»dey  St  net,  106,  132 

Talism.ins,  ancient,  335 

Talleyrand  (Prince),  letter  to  Madame  de  Genl'f,  1 1 

Talmud,  translatii>n.'<,  123 

Tamworth  collegiate  chunli.  its  history,  88 

Taniatry,  its  derivation,  471 

Taperell,  its  derivation,  447,  495 

Tarra.%  plaster  of,  1 60 

Tartar  dm,  117 

Tassie's  se^N.  321.  394 

Tate  (W.  R.)  on  belfiies  blackened.  372 

Taylor  (Ge<».  \Vats<»n)  ufKrles»(»ke  Park,  161.  227,  342 

Taylor  (J.)  on  Halstead's  "  Succinct  Genealogies,"  416 

T.  (C.  B.)  on  **  Swore  by  no  bugs,"  58 

Tchitchacoir  (Admiral),  50,  123 

Tedcar  on  beer-jug  inscriptions,  170 

TeetoUil  ver-es,  429 

Telescoping,  an  Ameiicanitm.  403 

Teniple  (Sir  Peter)  noticed,  307 

Tennyson  (Alfrrd),  "  Death  of  the  Old  Year,"  92;"  Last 

Tournament,"  301 ;  alterations  in  bis  poemt,  467 
Tertiaries,  the  Order  of  I'enance,  104 
Tea^era,  a  German  gtme,  240 

'<  Te:<taments  of  the  XIL  Patriarchs,"  1483,  486,  544 
Tew  (Edmund)  on  Ashen  faggot,  227 

Butial  in  woollen,  284 

Dffende,  its  change  of  meaning,  178 

Heron  or  Heme,  227 

Hotch|>ot,  24S,  51 1 

liktotd.  Bucks,  a  tablet,  483 

Industrious  =  inttintionnl,  469 

Lexico;;raphieal  error,  407 

Oviil,  "Meum.  xiii.  25*,'  189 

IVrfCcution  of  the  heathen.  243 

Ilimsey  Abbey,  290 

Sergius,  2S6 

Shy  lock,  origin  of  the  character,  157 

Taidatry,  its  derviatiun.  471 

"  The  cloud  with  tiie  hilver  liidng,"  289 

Tibullus  and  Dr.  Watt  a,  474 

While  Le;if  Cro<8.  343 
Tewars  on  apocryphal  genealopy,  3'i6 

Edward  of  Sili»burv,  313' 

Hampden  (John),  his  second  wife,  506 

Harleian  Sv>ciety,  102 

Hotchpot,  409 

Leadership  of  the  IIou>-e  uf  Lords,  349 

Photographic  primine.  300 

Washington  family,  325 
T.  (G.  M.)  on  the  Disbrowe  family,  63 

Dogs  baried  at  the  feet  uf  bishop:*,  1 8 

Finger  cakes,  325 

Milton's  "  Comas,"  -  Airy  Shell,"  229 


57  v> 


INDEX. 


\  Vartlefw  viKb  Sol  saik  Jalr  27,  UTL* 


WilfiU  of  Gaiwaj  on  Jihn  ile  Vatigoerro,  445 

*•  Wilful  Wivfs;''ii  poein,  SIX) 

Wilkea'  cbmritj  at  Lei^ihtnii  Buzzird,  505 

V.'iikinaon  (H.  E.)  on  *•  Gieat  crief»  are  sil.»nt,"  23 

Wilkinson  (T.  T.)  on  abb  »tji  of  Wiiailt;y  and  Sawlev,  406 

MS.  Hi»ti>rT  of  LoniJ.tR,  *163 
WilliADi  III.,   lii'.inder  on  his  crown  piece.  95:    hia 

^ninea,  343:  eii;barkari)n  for  Irf'And,  360.  494 
WUliains  (S.  II.)  on  a  pi>8«gfi  in  Ti-nnvboit,  301 

Anecxiote  of  David  Oarrick,  407 

Hv.le  (Lorv),  bin  iiarrin^''*,  4.*3 

Kitt  (H.-nrT)  of  Trini-T  Colle-p,  Oxford.  517 

l*ontiif.  itH  <3eriv:itiori,  513 
"Willoujrliby  fami.v,  SOS 
Wil!y,  a  river,  iu  derivation.  162.  243 
Wils<n  (Sir  IJ-ibert),  restyr*-d  to  h  s  roinmission,  44 
Wimbledon,  its  Tuior  lji«;i^,  \>\,  2»j4 
Wimborue  miiisTer.  318.  403.  476 
Windebank  family  i>eJijree.  3i 1 ,  304,  454 
M'indlass  =  com}4is.««.  390,  454 
Wi;ininpton  (Sir  T.  V.,)  on  tue  battle  of  Evesham,  14 

liryan  (Hev.  Jnhii),  03 

Miberere  car  vine',  472 

Matthews  (Mr.),  210 

M>)naittic  relics.  444 

Nuiiciual  ( F.).  A::ie  liib-yn's  mother,  03 

Oaken  architecture.  477 

Prayer  for  the  buihlfrs  of  r)ri:lgcs,  308 

Pu'-py  =  conceited,  263,  373 

Water  as  a  turn>pit.  03 
Winningtun  (Sir  Thonias  Eilward),  deatli,  525 
AViutcrs  (W.)  on  Gen.  John  D-rhborougij,  C3 

Britten,  Brctton  fami.i'.'.s,  301 

Gibson  family,  144 

l*»irjKji«e  and  H-'ilmnn.  543 

•' Tftstamnnts  .f  the  XII.  l*atriarc!:s."  544 
Winw.l)^,  or  Winell  (S:.).  221,  2-^7,  4:>0 
Wi-eman  familv  of  B.jrbaloos,  04 
Withiinll  family,  ■t47 
^'  Wir.s,  r.r  Spirt  upwi  Sp  rr,"  1)2 
Wives,  tliu  liivinL',  of  WeinsheiL',  •i27 
W.  (J.)  on  '•  p:hNays  Divine  and  Moral,"  2S0 

Mary  Q  lem  of  Sowt;*,  20 
W.  (J.  W.)  oti  ail  apt  quotation,  72 

Gray's  "  Ei.^jry,"  339 

Wapga-Wapga,  286 
Wood  (Fiedi-ric)  on  Chowbnnt,  13 
Woodcroft  (B.)  oa  Gybbon  Spilsbury,  120 


Wtiodlimise  (G.)  «  a  pn-nadal  gVmmrTf  22 
Woodi«K  a  snrnanie.  39-i 
Woodland  in  Wtfit  K'^or.  486* 

Woodward  (Dr.  Josi.ih)  bio|mplij  «nl  tamtlr,  263,  SSS 
Woodward  (J.),  00  DoU:nger*s  -*  Fabks  of  tlw  P.ptt." 
465 

Divisions  of  Sazoor.  475 

Sn^nTe  earrings,  472 
Woolridge  (T.)  oa  the  crj  of  "  Hear,  hear  !"  200 
Witolwieh  dockyard  r1'«<>ed,  115 

Worcester,  inscnpti'ln.t  nn  tlie  Ml*  of  St.  Hele&'a,  37-1; 
cathedral,  its  iriiserf  iys.  191;  mooasterj,  iu  nSes,  44 1 
Worcestershire  heraldrr.  417 
Words  changing  thdr  meaning,  S4 
Wordsworth  (Wm.),  **  OJe  on  ilie  TntimaSixu  of  Id- 
mortality,"  241:  *  I  rimnw*,"  197,  239 
World,  its  Keven  wcmi?:?,  377 
W.  (P.  C.  >  on  Parlia*neiitarT  Ciimpa.'iioaii,  239 
Wracg  (Mary),  hereraritr,  216 
Wrekin  taTern/CoTe-»'Garden,  330 
Wright  (W.)  on  Bcyle'a  '•C.nrt  Goidr,**  305 
Wright  (W.  A.)  oo'the  derivaition  of  Maitbe.  100 
Wry  le,  its  meaning  and  derivation,  56,  145 
W.  (S.  H.)  on  Dr.  Win.  Strodes  piem,  77 
W.  (T.  T.)  on  bell  ir.scription  at  Chnrcli-Kirk,  406 

Cater-couiSlns,  456 

Dee  (Dr.),  matlienuticil  preface.  533 

Syddall  (Tom),  Declaration,  389 
W.  (W.)  on  an  autlientic  flocnmeiit,  476  ' 

Monastic  libraries,  220 
W.  (W.  H.)  on  Lady  Alice  Egertnn.  94 
Wylie  (Charles)  on  Spranger-Barry'a  portrait,  199,  S09 

Rarbage  the  first  actor  of  Hamlet,  ||5 

Hogarth'a  *«  March  to  Finchley."  201 

Lamb  (Mary),  sister  of  Gbarles  Lamb,  93 

Size  of  bjoks,  385 

Y 

Yardley  (E.)  on  ballad  by  Sir  Joiin  Sackling,  227 

"  Fair  S.  ience  frown'd  not,**  396 
Yarmouth,  Great,  its  history,  437 
Yates  (J.)  on  Directory  of  Fineign  Engiiteen,  262 
Year,  ringing-in  tlie  New,  401 
Young  (Dr.  Edward),  step-daughter,  63 


Z.  (X.  Y.)  on  divorced  women,  200 
Tyddyn  Inco,  507 


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QaerlM,  wiUi  Su.  339,  Jut?  27,  U72.i 


I  N  D  EX. 


575 


Victoria  (Queen),  letter  on  the  illness  of  the  Prince  of 
Wsles,  1 ;  at  Temple  Bar  on  Thanksgiring  Day,  240, 
289 

**  Victory,**  Nelson*)i  flagship,  by  whom  christened,  96 

Vigom  on  Porgy,  a  proyincislism,  329 

Villa,  its  meaning  in  medisBVuI  tiincK,  360,  433 

Vinrace,  a  snmame,  320 

Vivian  (Charletf)  on  Americaniimis,  403 
Derivations  of  names  of  countries,  268 
Dumas  (Alexandre),  burial-place,  403 
K\k^B  (Mr.),  the  king  of  smokers,  466 

Vosper-Thon  as  (S.)  on  Levelis  family,  201 

Vyse  (Charles),  "  Arithmetic,"  116 

W 

W.  on  catsup  or  ketchup,  279 

Comic  periodicals,  528 

Horace  and  his  editors,  319 
W.  (1.)  on  "  As  straight  as  a  die/'  249 

Basil,  a  plant,  474 

Liverpool,  origin  of  the  name,  83 

Watch-case  verses,  83 
W.  (A.)  on  Leadenhall,  427 
Wade  (Major-General),  noticed,  119,  2S6 
Wainewright  (T.  F.)  on  the  Prince  of  Wales,  202 
Waistcoat  pocket  a  snuff-box,  83 
Waits  (Anthony),  imprisoned,  524 
Walcott  (M.  E.  C.)  on  Llandaff  episcopal  arm?,  453 

Monastic  inventories,  360 

New  Year's  eve  custom,  54 

Senlac  =s  holy  well,  225 
Waldo  (Rev.  Daniel  \  his  longevity,  323 
Wales  (Prince  of),  creations  of  second  sons,  202;  and 

the  ostrich  feathers,  138,  221 
Walker  (Charles  E.),  draitiatist,  302,  372 
Walker  (John),  inventor  of  lucifer  matches,  201,  290 
Wallingers  inquired  after,  447,  540 
Wallis  (Gea)  on  ''  As  straight  as  a  die,"  185,  448 
Walmsley  (Sir  Joshua),  portrait  gallerv,  151 
"Walpoliana,"  18,  102 
Waltheof  on  Robert  Morden,  64 
Warburton  (Bp.),  "  Letters  to  Dr.  Doddridge,**  315 
Ward  (Miss)  of  Southampton,  her  death,  96,  170 
War-horse  shorn  of  its  mane,  389 
W'ashington  family  arms,  302 

Washington  (President),  ancestry,  140,  248.  302,  325 
Waste  paper  and  "  The  Missions  Library,'*  44 1 
Watchmakers'  labels,  83,  92,  167 
Waterford  Cathedral,  bell  inscriptions,  278 
Waterhouse  (Rev.  J.  J.),  epitaph,  296,  349 
Watkinson  (John),  M.D.,  "  Philosophical  Survey  of  the 

South  of  IreUnd,"  359,  418,  437 
Watson  (Arch.)  on  weepers  at  funerals,  1 7 

Battle  of  Harlavr,  101 
Watson-Taylor  (E.)  on  G.  Watson-Taylor,  227 
Watton  Castle,  its  history.  39 
Watts  (Dr.  Isaac)  and  Tibullus,  403,  474,  520 
Wat  Tyler  and  the  insurrection,  241 
Wax  used  by  the  Greeks  and  Romans,  263 
Way  (R.  E.)  on  Boadicea's  speech,  199 

Wat  Tyler,  241 
W.  (B.)  on  Archbishop  Blackburne,  180,  396 
W.  (C.)  on  Ammergau  Passion  Play,  452 

Ball  family,  495 

Cockroaches,  490 
W.  (C.  A.)  on  Colonel,  its  pronunciation,  86 


W.  (C.  A.)  on  Genius  defined,  449 

Gourmand:  Gourmet,  162,  321 

Help:  prevent,  147 

Homer  and  his  translators,  59 

Milton's  use  of  the  superlative,  1 5 

Stephens  (BIrs.),  medicines,  15 

Verb  t=  word,  508 
W.  (C.  H.)  on  Weirleigh,  Kent,  86 
W.  (D.)  on  Halsted's  *'  Genealogies  of  Vere,"  340 
Weale  (W.  H.  J.)  on  Palestrina  chant,  104 

Tertiaries,  104 
Weather  sayings,  158, 174,  257, 401 
Webb  (T.  W.)  on  Board  as  used  by  G.  Herbert,  93, 

Cagots,  129 

Light  Christmas,  13 

Kash  (Dr.),  his  penurious  habits,  34 

Tinker's  cry,  53 
Webbe  (Samuel),  sen.,  "  Collection  of  Glees,'  96 
Weepers  worn  at  funerals,  17 
Weights,  punishment  for  unjust,  15 
'Weigle's  paper  for  copying  printed  matter,  19, 127,291 
Weinsberg,  its  loving  wives,  427 
Weir  (Harrison  William),  artist,  86 
Wellingtou  (Arthur  Duke  of),  correspondence  with  Sir 
John  Borgoyne,  58;  and  the  Bishop  of  London,  101 
Wellington  statue,  its  weight,  132 
W.  (E.  S.)  on  burials  in  gardenx,  284 
Wesley  (John),  foot-marks,  190,  494,  542 
Wessell  (Van),  artist,  203 
West  (Benj.),  pictures,  139 
Westminster  Abbey,  the  Chapter  House,  377 
Weston  family  of  Weston-undcr-Lyxard,  274,  356,  508 
Weston  (Jo.),  author  of  "  The  Amazon  Queen,"  471 
Wetherby  (Dr.),  dean  of  Cashel,  burial-place,  241 
W.  (G.  R)  on  "  Nothing  can  come  from  nothing,"  305 
W.  (H.)  on  Miss  Ward,  a  poetess,  170 
Whales'  ribs,  175 

Whalley  abbey,  execution  of  the  last  abbot,  406 
W.  (H.  B.)  on  bows  in  bonnets,  37 
Wheatley  (H.  B.)  on  Chaucer  family,  493 

Hans  Place  hoax,  452 
Wheelwright  (G.)  on  compass:  windlass,  390 
W.  (H.  H.)  on  miserere  carvings,  472 
White  (Robert)  on  Hardwick  and  Worksop,  160 
Whiteacre  family  crest,  18 
"  White  Horse"  tavern  sign,  478 
While  Leaf  Cross,  co.  Buckingham,  343 
Whitmore.  (Major-General  Edward),  372 
W.  .  H.  G.)  on  Pier  Ogier,  280 
Whitmore  (W.  H.)  on  a  centenarian,  40,  223,  323 

**  Lexington  Papers,"  36 

Washington  (George),  ancestry,  450 

Whitmore  (Major-Gen.  Edward),  372 
Whitsunday,  its  derivation,  330 
Wick-ed  and  M&h-ant,  their  etymon,  182 
Wickenden  (Rev.  W.).  the  bard,  death,  321,  453,  522 
Wickham  family  of  Abingdon,  145 
Wickham  (Wm.)  on  *•  Join  issue,"  128 
Widows'  arms,  340,  412 

Wiesbaden  on  the  longerity  of  Mr.  Lahrbush,  337 
Wife  sold  in  1872,  197 
Wild  beasts  sold  in  London,  26,  207 
Wildene  manor,  co.  Bedford,  14 
Wilfrid  of  Galway  on  Father  Arrowsmith's  hand,  432 

Irish  custom,  258 

Gray  Friars  of  Bewmakan,  432 


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\gaerle#,  with  No.  9a>.  Jaly  X7.  ISTS.' 


AVilfiiil  of  Gal  way  on  John  «]e  Vatiguerro,  445 

♦'  Wilful  Wives," 'h  poem,  500 

Wilkto'  charity  at  Leit^litou  Huzzrird,  505 

Wilkinson  (H.  E.)  on  "  Great  {fvx^U  are  silent,**  23 

Wilkinson  (T.  T.)  on  Hbl.otK  of  Wlmll^y  and  Sawley,  406 

MS.  History  of  London,  4G8 
William  III.,    Muniier  on   his  crown   piece,   95:    his 

guinea,  343:  enibarka!i;n  for  In-land,  360.  494 
Williams  (S.  H.)  on  a  passage  in  Tmnvbon,  301 

Anecdote  of  David  Garrick,  407 

Hvde  (Lorv),  his  iiiarrmt:**,  4J3 

Kett  (ll^nr'y)  of  Trinity  Collejre,  Oxford,  517 

Pontiff,  its  derivation,  513 
Willouphby  frtudiy,  508 
Willy,  a  rivor,  its  dorivatio?!,  162,  243 
Wilscn  (Sir  Hubert),  restor^-d  to  h  s  commission,  44 
Winjblcdon,  its  Tijd(»r  Iiouhc.  ISl.  2G4 
Wimborne  minster,  318.  403,  476 
Windebank  family  pcJiL'rce.  3->l,  394,  454 
Windlass  =  cotnpass.  ,390,  454 
"Winninpton  (Sir  T.  K.)  on  tue  battle  of  Kvesli.iin,  14 

P»ryan  (Kev.  John),  63 

Miserere  carvings,  472 

Matthews  (Mr.),  210 

Mona.stic  relics.  444 

Nundaat  (F.),  A:;i;e  B.jloyn's  mother,  93 

O.iken  architecture,  477 

Prayer  for  the  buildrrs  of  bridges,  308 

Purpy  =  conccite.1,  263,  373 

Water  as  a  turn-pit.  63 
Winnington  (Sir  Tliomas  Edward),  death,  525 
"Winters  (W.)  (m  Gen.  John  Desborough,  63 

Britton,  Brctton  familii\-i,  391 

Gibson  familv,  144 

porpoise  an<i  s-ihnon.  543 

*'Testamonts  <f  the  XII.  Patriaiclis,"  544 
Winw;.l>»,  or  Wineli  (S:.),  221,  '1^1,  4:)0 
Wiseman  family  of  B.irba does,  64 
Williipoll  fainily,  447 
**  Wirs,  or  Spjrt  up):i  Sp  r*,''  92 
Wives,  tiio  l(»vin>;,  of  WcinslieiL',  -127 
W.  (J.)  on  ••  Essays  Divine  an.!  Moral,"  2S0 

Mary  Q  leen  of  Scots,  26 
W.  (J.  W.)  on  ail  apt  quoMiiion,  72 

(iray's  "  Elopy,"  339 

Wapga-Wappa,  286 
Wood  (Fredtric)  on  Chuwbent,  13 
Woodcroft  (B.)  on  Gybbon  Spilsbury,  129 


Wiiodhoiute  (G.)  on  a  pniTincia)  gluasarjf  22 
Woodiwiii,  a  Borname.  32J 
Woodland  in  Wtixt  K'^nr,  486^ 

Woodward  (Dr.  Josiah)  bioffniplij  and  familT,  263, 268 
Woodward  (J.),  on  Dollinger'a  •*  Fables  of  the  P.^pes," 
465 

Divisions  of  Saxony,  475 

Miserere  c^rrin^,  472 
Woolridpe  (T.)  on  the  cry  of  "  Hear,  hear  !"  200 
Wwlvrich  dockyard  ch»sed,  115 

Worcester,  inscriptions  nn  the  \MU  of  St.  Helen'd,  373; 
cathedral,  its  niiserr^ies,  191 ;  monastery,  its  relics,  44  4 
Worcestershire  heraldrr.  417 
Words  changini;  their  meaning,  84 
Woni.sworth  (Wm.),  ••  Ode  on  the  Intimations  of  Im- 
mortality," 241 :  *  I  rimrose,**  197,  289 
World,  its  hex'en  woni.Ms,  377 
W.  (P.  CJ  on  Parlia-nenlary  Compoiiions,  239 
Wracp  (M»ry),  her  crarity,  216 
Wrekin  tavern,  Coveii'Garden,  380 
Wright  (W.)  on  Boyle's  "  Cart  Goide,"  305 
Wright  (W.  A.)  on  the  derivation  of  staithe.  100 
Wry  ie,  its  meaning  and  derivation,  56,  145 
W.  (S.  H.)  on  Dr.  Wm.  Stnxle's  p»em,  77 
W.  (T.  T.)  on  bell  inscription  at  Church- Kirk,  406 

Cater-couriins,  456 

Dee  (Dr.),  mathematical  preface.  533 

Svddall  (Tom),  Declaration,  389 
W.  (W.)  on  an  autlientic  document,  476  ' 

Monastic  libraries,  220 
W^  (W.  H.)  on  Lady  Alice  Egerton.  94 
Wylie  (Charles)  on  Spranger- Barry *«  portrait,  199,  509 

Borhage  the  first  actor  of  Hamlet,  115 

Hogarth's  "  March  to  Finch  ley,"  201 

Lamb  (Mary),  sister  of  Charles  Lamb,  93 

Size  of  bookjB,  385 

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Yardley  (E.)  on  ballad  by  Sir  John  Suckling,  227 

"Fair  S-ience  frown'd  not,"  396 
Yarmouth.  Great,  its  history,  437 
Yates  (J.)  on  Directory  of  Foreign  Engineers,  262 
Year,  ringinir-in  the  New,  401 
Young  (Dr.  Edward),  step-daughter,  63 


Z.  (X.  Y.)  on  divorced  women,  200 
Tyddyn  Inco,  507 


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